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| tarvid | on one of my workstations I installed moodle and php5 which all went well enough. | 04:30 |
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| tarvid | then I installed mirrormed - it wanted php4 | 04:30 |
| tarvid | i found both installed on this machine but libapache2-mod-php5 was installed | 04:32 |
| tarvid | i installed libapache2-mod-php4 and broke everything | 04:32 |
| tarvid | any secrets to the php4/5 dilemma? | 04:33 |
| infinity | Yes, don't install both. | 04:44 |
| === infinity can't find this mirrormed package you speak of. | ||
| tarvid | mirrormed is a GPL medical practice management system | 04:47 |
| infinity | Yes, Google tells me that. | 04:47 |
| infinity | But I don't see any package of it that requires php4. | 04:47 |
| infinity | If you're installing it from source, what makes you think it won't work with php5? | 04:47 |
| tarvid | it is easy to say don't install both but sometimes one does not know in advance | 04:47 |
| tarvid | the install scripts check php version and stop if it is less than 4.3 or greater than or equal to php5.0 | 04:48 |
| infinity | Well, you can't install libapache2-mod-php5 and libapache2-mod-php4 together. They conflict with each other. | 04:48 |
| infinity | So fix the install script to be more lenient, and see if it works with php5? | 04:48 |
| infinity | If not, then I suppose you need php4 instead of php5, or you need to run one as a CGI. | 04:49 |
| tarvid | I did patch out the test on php version and died in a related place so i tried to revert to libapache2-php4 | 04:49 |
| tarvid | but I am intrigued by your suggestion of running one as CGI | 04:50 |
| tarvid | how would one go about that? | 04:50 |
| infinity | With a fair amount of unnecessary pain, generally. | 04:51 |
| infinity | You're better off not bothing unless you KNOW it's required. | 04:51 |
| infinity | (It will require mass renaming of some PHP scripts, etc) | 04:51 |
| infinity | You're better off figuring out where/how/why your install script dies and fixing it, I suspect. | 04:52 |
| infinity | You can force php5 to be "almost like php4, but not quite" by enabling the zend.ze1_compatibility_mode flag (perhaps only in the vhost serving mirrormed) if it's really necessary. | 04:53 |
| tarvid | This machine does not have to run other applications, machines are cheap | 04:53 |
| infinity | Well, if the only application it needs to run is mirrormed, and you're pretty sure it needs PHP4, then just use PHP4. | 04:54 |
| infinity | But then you're stuck not being able to run stuff that definitely DOES require PHP5, that's all. | 04:54 |
| infinity | While php5 has some backward compatibility options, php4, oddly enough, doesn't have any forward compatibility flags. :) | 04:55 |
| tarvid | my tech insists he didn't install php5 intentionally, is there a way to get the installation history to know when it came in? | 04:55 |
| infinity | If you installed the moodle package, that's what pulled it in, yes. | 04:55 |
| tarvid | I did that on my machine but he has performed at least two fresh installs on a different machine | 04:55 |
| infinity | Well, unless you install some PHP application that depends on it, nothing will pull it in "by default"... We don't install any PHP interpreter by default. | 04:56 |
| infinity | If you install php4-pear, that will bring in some php5ish packages, but that's not the same as "having PHP5 installed in apache"... Only libapache2-mod-php5 will do that for you. | 04:58 |
| infinity | So, make sure apache is using libapache2-mod-php4, and you're set. | 04:58 |
| tarvid | thanks, it may be working | 05:02 |
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| nictuku | infinity, are you there? | 11:45 |
| infinity | nictuku: I am, but just heading out. | 11:47 |
| infinity | What's up? | 11:47 |
| nictuku | ah ok | 11:47 |
| nictuku | I was wondering if you could show up in the #ubuntu-meeting and say "yes I remember this guy. he's working on nwu", since no one from my small fan club appeared (07:00am here). it could take a few minutes though, and since you're leaving, thanks anyway :-) | 11:51 |
| infinity | Well, I haven't had a chance to look at or tst any of your code, so I wouldn't be a very good advocate anyway. | 11:53 |
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| Nrbelex | Hi - I'm learning through experimentation and so far I've setup Apache and registered a domain name from godaddy and created a tiny test website in my www folder. I registered at Zoneedit and am waiting for a response. I installed the ez-ipupdate package (but can't find it, if there is something to find in order to configure it). I opened port 80 on my router and can access the site from my... | 11:06 |
| Nrbelex | ...IP address in the address bar. I don't understand how I do binding or if I need to and how to use a name server or anything. At this point, I'm thoroughly lost. Any help would be greatly appreciated. | 11:06 |
| neuralis | Nrbelex: you'll want to edit your domain in godaddy, which provides free DNS services, and create an A record that points your domain to your IP address. | 11:39 |
| Nrbelex | neuralis: looking for that on the site now... thanks | 11:39 |
| Nrbelex | neuralis: I'm not seeing it on Godaddy | 11:41 |
| neuralis | actually, if you're doing this with a dynamic IP (which is what i'm guessing you want to use zoneedit and ez-ipupdate for), you'll want to edit your domain at godaddy, and put zoneedit's DNS servers instead of godaddy's. | 11:41 |
| neuralis | put =~ set it to use. | 11:41 |
| Nrbelex | neuralis - I registered with them but they haven't gotten back to me yet - how do I do that? | 11:43 |
| neuralis | Nrbelex: http://www.zoneedit.com/doc/dynamic.html | 11:45 |
| Nrbelex | neuralis right but how do actually transfer the domain or will that come with my registration E-mail? | 11:46 |
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