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| Tonio_ | Riddell: ping ? | 01:12 |
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| robotgeek | hey Tonio_ | 01:13 |
| Tonio_ | robotgeek: :) | 01:13 |
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| Riddell | Tonio_: hi | 01:16 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I'm checking for a softphone | 01:16 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: is the video component important for you ? | 01:16 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: we'll take what we're given | 01:17 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: if yes, I will concentrate on wengophon, but I also like the audio only Twinkle | 01:17 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: just found a debian package for wengophone for unstable | 01:17 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: checking if I can port it | 01:17 |
| robotgeek | kdesvn: Depends: kdesvn-kio-plugins (= 0.7.2-2) but it is not going to be installed | 01:18 |
| robotgeek | bug filing time? | 01:18 |
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| Riddell | kaffeine 0.8.1 is on revu | 01:21 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I'm thinking about asking to kaffeine upstream an option to completly disable audio ripping function.... | 01:24 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: why? | 01:24 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: honnestly, that's not of any use, and doubles with konqueror and kaudiocreator | 01:24 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: and because it not possible to use it with the ubuntu version, cause it depends liblame-dev -> multiverse | 01:25 |
| Tonio_ | the result is a "encode" button that you can click and tells you "no encoders available", which is horrible | 01:26 |
| Tonio_ | the problem is that you have all encoding buttons ad options even if you compile without that support, which isn't convenient | 01:26 |
| fabo | i disabled mp3 ncoding but keeped ogg vorbis encoder | 01:26 |
| Tonio_ | appart from that, the video part is greatly improved | 01:26 |
| Tonio_ | fabo: does it work ? | 01:27 |
| fabo | yes bu not on all cds | 01:27 |
| Tonio_ | as far as I tested, the function doesn't work nicelly, and upstream didn't find the solution of my problem | 01:27 |
| Tonio_ | fabo: when you see konqueror's ability in the ripping part....... | 01:27 |
| fabo | i don't know if it's caused by cds protection | 01:27 |
| robotgeek | Tonio_: are we changing something radically (which i need to document) | 01:28 |
| Tonio_ | robotgeek: concerning ? | 01:28 |
| robotgeek | Tonio_: video ripping/encoding | 01:28 |
| Tonio_ | fabo: don't you thinkaudio ripping capability should by desabled by a configure option ? | 01:29 |
| robotgeek | there is isn't much in the desktop guide anyways about that | 01:29 |
| Tonio_ | robotgeek: well, if it gets in, kaffeine latest version offers audio ripping capability, but that is limited to ogg, and doesn't work very nicelly | 01:29 |
| fabo | already exist, you can add --without-oggvorbis | 01:29 |
| Tonio_ | fabo: yes, but you still get those "rip" and "encode" buttons :) | 01:30 |
| Tonio_ | fabo: which are there but don't work | 01:30 |
| robotgeek | Tonio_: okay, i will pretend nothing changed :) | 01:30 |
| fabo | i'm not against disable ogg support, as you said we can find duplicate tools | 01:30 |
| Tonio_ | robotgeek: hehe | 01:30 |
| Tonio_ | fabo: I mean we have far better tools in kubuntu | 01:31 |
| Tonio_ | fabo: the problem is that there are still those ugly buttons :) | 01:31 |
| Tonio_ | fabo: fancy removing them ? | 01:31 |
| Tonio_ | should be that hard to patch I assume | 01:31 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: any opinion concerning audio encoding added or removed ? | 01:31 |
| fabo | don't know, but christophe can do it if we ask him | 01:32 |
| Tonio_ | fabo: the point is that those buttons should only appear when compiled with ripping capability | 01:33 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: since fabo has included ogg encoding we should keep it | 01:33 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: okay ;) | 01:33 |
| fabo | Tonio_: i'll send an email to upstream about that feature : disable encoding buttons if we didn't build them | 01:34 |
| fabo | at least could be available in next release :) | 01:35 |
| Tonio_ | fabo: well, if we keep encoding capabilities, there is no need of that ;) | 01:35 |
| fabo | it's a non-sense to have these buttons anyway if one day, we disable them | 01:36 |
| fabo | je peux toujours demander a mange pas de pain :) | 01:37 |
| fabo | a bit of french ;) | 01:37 |
| Riddell | fabo: what does it mean? other than the literal | 01:38 |
| fabo | i can always ask upstream, that doesn't hurt | 01:39 |
| Tonio_ | fabo: c'est vrai que pour un non francophone "ca ne mange pas de pain", c'est vraiment debile a comprendre :) | 01:40 |
| fabo | en plus j'ai galerer pour traduire ;) | 01:40 |
| Tonio_ | fabo: ^^ | 01:42 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I think we should forget wengophone, it uses a big bunch of universe libs....... too late to work on that all :) | 01:42 |
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| Riddell | Tonio_: well, I'm not expecting it in main just yet | 01:43 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: hum, okay ;) | 01:43 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: but really, the program structure is a pain....... they don't respect any standard path, that's a nightmare...... | 01:44 |
| Tonio_ | everything is in /usr/share/wengophone, even libs headers etc...... | 01:44 |
| Tonio_ | the wengophone ng (next generation) is clean, but really unstable | 01:44 |
| Riddell | ok, ignore wenga then :) | 01:45 |
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| jjesse | robotgeek_zzz: what do you mean the answer is in the code? do you just need a review of the section? | 03:23 |
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| robotgeek | jjesse: sorry, the comment in the code are explanatory i think | 03:58 |
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| jjesse | robotgeek: sorry still a little confused, i just ahve the deksotp guide in front of me and was trying to look at the hardware section i voluneteered to look into during the meeting, what does the comment in the code are explantory ? | 04:05 |
| robotgeek | jjesse: i meant the sectinfo and status="help" | 04:06 |
| jjesse | ah i understand now sorry tired :) | 04:07 |
| robotgeek | jjesse: no problem, lagging | 04:07 |
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| robotgeek | Riddell: i see a "Add/Remove Programs" in K-Menu, is it going to be present in final release | 06:45 |
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| robotgeek | mornfall: ping | 07:15 |
| robotgeek | mornfall: the add remove thing takes care of /etc/apt/sources.list as well? need to document | 07:17 |
| robotgeek | as in, does it enable the online repositories automagically? | 07:17 |
| mornfall | robotgeek: pong | 07:41 |
| mornfall | robotgeek: not really -- it uses the default one | 07:41 |
| mornfall | so you still need to enable universe and all | 07:42 |
| robotgeek | mornfall: what does the Show Unspported checkbox do? | 07:42 |
| mornfall | hmm | 07:42 |
| mornfall | robotgeek: show things from universe, if it's enabled | 07:42 |
| robotgeek | mornfall: docuementing that will be trick | 07:42 |
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| robotgeek | mornfall: i do realise that it is a frontend to adept, but there is no other way to add repositories other than from adept | 07:45 |
| mornfall | robotgeek: well, the basic problem is that getting this right is fairly nontrivial | 08:06 |
| mornfall | robotgeek: if i went the easy way and used sources.list.d, it would probably confuse users a bit -- it will be shown disabled in adept and still be there | 08:06 |
| robotgeek | mornfall: no, keep it the way it is. i have already made changes to the documentation :) | 08:07 |
| mornfall | robotgeek: (un)commenting universe in sources.list is fairly complicated too | 08:07 |
| mornfall | robotgeek: i'll probably tackle it after 2.0 :) | 08:07 |
| robotgeek | mornfall: heh, just worried about not misguiding people | 08:08 |
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| robotgeek | mornfall: does it ask for cd to be inserted if cdrom repo is enabled, and the rest are disabled? | 08:30 |
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| xuecan | mornfall: When I stratup Adept, it shows: Could not find mime type application/octet-stream, what can I do? | 08:38 |
| freeflying | mornfall: ping | 08:39 |
| mornfall | freeflying: pong | 08:55 |
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| mornfall | robotgeek: i would hope so -- but trying it out would help :] | 08:56 |
| freeflying | mornfall: noticed the above problem by xuecan | 08:56 |
| mornfall | right | 08:56 |
| robotgeek | mornfall: problem is i have distupgraded all the way from breezy :) | 08:56 |
| mornfall | freeflying, xuecan: it's a known problem with a myriad of dupes | 08:57 |
| mornfall | i don't need to hear of every single instance :| | 08:57 |
| mornfall | robotgeek: like me, it's just hoary in my case | 08:57 |
| mornfall | the cdrom functionality is largely untested | 08:58 |
| xuecan | :-) | 08:58 |
| mornfall | since, umm, none of the testers actaully use it | 08:58 |
| robotgeek | mornfall: okay. thanks for that info | 08:58 |
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| Pygi | Riddell: do you have time for a few quick questions? | 09:50 |
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| hunger | Has somebody messed with the fonts again? | 12:19 |
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| Tm_T | hunger: not me! | 12:27 |
| Riddell | robotgeek: yes | 12:31 |
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| Riddell | KDE incoming https://launchpad.net/rosetta/imports?status=APPROVED&type=all | 04:23 |
| Tm_T | hum | 04:23 |
| Tm_T | aah, translations | 04:23 |
| Tm_T | good good good | 04:23 |
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| robotgeek | Riddell: heh, so no more changes? | 04:29 |
| Riddell | robotgeek: string freeze is no until april 22nd (or then abouts) | 04:32 |
| Riddell | this is just rosetta importing KDE for the first time | 04:32 |
| robotgeek | Riddell: hmm, okay. better not change anything (by much) as doc string freeze is 6th | 04:33 |
| Riddell | wow, two days away :) | 04:34 |
| jjesse | yeah no more changes to adept :) | 04:34 |
| mornfall | hmm? :) | 04:34 |
| Riddell | robotgeek, jjesse: think kubuntu docs will be in a good shape in two days time? | 04:34 |
| jjesse | Riddell: if you would stop changing things they would be :) | 04:35 |
| robotgeek | heh, we are almost done. | 04:35 |
| Riddell | jjesse: yeah, I have much the same feeling with kde espresso, it would be done a lot quicker if the gtk frontend didn't keep adding things :) | 04:35 |
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| robotgeek | jjesse: i did not notice the add-remove programs until you mentioned it to me | 04:37 |
| jjesse | Riddell: agreed, hence no mention of add/remove programs in the chapter | 04:42 |
| Riddell | sorry guys, I should have pointed that out to you | 04:43 |
| jjesse | anything else on tap that we should now about to get into the docs? | 04:43 |
| robotgeek | jjesse: i added it already | 04:44 |
| Riddell | jjesse: well espresso of course but hard to write about that currently | 04:45 |
| jjesse | this is cool installing kubuntu on windows virtual server release 2 | 04:46 |
| mornfall | jjesse: btw, how's adept docs? :) | 04:47 |
| jjesse | mornfall: if you would quit changing things they would be better :) | 04:47 |
| mornfall | jjesse: i haven't changed anything for weeks now | 04:47 |
| jjesse | have to finish the kubuntu chapter for the official ubuntu book first then i can get it done | 04:47 |
| mornfall | IIRC :) | 04:47 |
| jjesse | add/remove programs | 04:47 |
| mornfall | what's with it | 04:47 |
| jjesse | new to me | 04:47 |
| mornfall | the thing that changed was, umm, button shape | 04:47 |
| mornfall | that's about it | 04:47 |
| mornfall | jjesse: adept_installer was uploaded before end of february | 04:51 |
| jjesse | do changes to adept get updated first in debian and then move over to kubuntu slowly? for example just saw the new add-remove programs | 04:51 |
| mornfall | jjesse: 2006-02-20 12:03:31 was upload to dapper | 04:52 |
| mornfall | jjesse: it was announced in the following flight -- it wasn't on the k menu at that time (typo in .desktop file) | 04:52 |
| robotgeek | Riddell: any changes to make help more accessible? (desktop icon etc) | 04:58 |
| Riddell | robotgeek: it's in the top level of the k-menu and in about: page on konqueror | 04:59 |
| Riddell | there's no space for any more icons on kicker | 05:00 |
| Riddell | and desktop icons are barred :) | 05:00 |
| jjesse | i love that desktop icons are barred | 05:00 |
| robotgeek | Riddell: okay, cool | 05:00 |
| jjesse | plus you can get the kubuntu docs from konqi | 05:00 |
| robotgeek | i wonder if people can actually find the help | 05:01 |
| jjesse | robotgeek: when i frist started using kubuntu i found the help | 05:01 |
| robotgeek | jjesse: not you, but people like we saw in the video :) | 05:02 |
| robotgeek | jjesse: since you are able to use an irc client, you are not the target audience :) | 05:02 |
| hunger | Konqui can no longer handle html or so it claims! | 05:03 |
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| kwwii | Riddell: can you point me to the Usplash colormapping info? | 05:20 |
| Riddell | kwwii: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Usplash/Artwork | 05:22 |
| kwwii | Riddell: thanks :-) | 05:24 |
| hunger | Riddell: I might end up having some time to help a bit starting next week. | 05:26 |
| Riddell | hunger: cool, what sort of stuff can you do? | 05:26 |
| hunger | Riddell: I'll find myself a nice bug to gnawl on I think. | 05:27 |
| hunger | Riddell: Somethi++ related... I must prepare for my new job;-) | 05:27 |
| hunger | Riddell: Something C++ related... | 05:27 |
| hunger | Strange keybiard layout on this windows box... | 05:28 |
| Riddell | hunger: fix qtparted! | 05:28 |
| fabo | Riddell: how the symlink is created ? or where can i find a log of the problem ? | 05:29 |
| hunger | Riddell: I'll try to look into that then:-) | 05:29 |
| hunger | But first I need to get all the data of this windows box and then I need to get kubuntu installed on it. | 05:30 |
| Riddell | 22:16 < sebas> Riddell: Uninstalling guidance obviously doesn't remove the link in Xsession startup to displayconfig-restore. | 05:30 |
| Riddell | 22:17 < sebas> So after removing guidance, X crashes at startup. | 05:30 |
| Riddell | 22:17 < Riddell> sebas: ouch, that's not good | 05:30 |
| Riddell | 22:17 < sebas> /etc/X11/Xsession.d/40guidance-displayconfig_restore: line 9: /usr/bin/displayconfig-restore: No such file or directory | 05:30 |
| jjesse | hunger: just use a virutal machine :) | 05:30 |
| hunger | jjesse: For what? | 05:30 |
| jjesse | hunger: in case you don't want to wipe that windows box | 05:31 |
| hunger | jjesse: I must wipe it: The computer will be returned and has my win license:-) | 05:31 |
| jjesse | ah | 05:31 |
| fabo | Riddell: ok, thanks | 05:31 |
| hunger | jjesse: Used to be my play-computer:-) | 05:32 |
| hunger | jjesse: And now that I got a new job my boss wants it beck... so I have to reinstall kubuntu (which is our default OS). | 05:32 |
| jjesse | hunger: that's cool that kubuntu is your default OS | 05:32 |
| hunger | jjesse: I'll probably end up on kubuntu in my new company again;-) | 05:33 |
| jjesse | hunger: i run kubuntu at work but often have to use windows. i'm a newtork admin for a windows network | 05:34 |
| hunger | jjesse: Poor you! | 05:35 |
| hunger | jjesse: I finally got myself a job developing SW:-) Used to do consulting... | 05:36 |
| jjesse | hunger: why poor me, i enjoy it :) | 05:36 |
| hunger | jjesse: I hate having to use windows. | 05:36 |
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| danimo | Riddell: ping? | 05:45 |
| Riddell | danimo: yo | 05:47 |
| danimo | Riddell: hi. I am running networkmanager now. it's awesome | 05:48 |
| Riddell | danimo: cool. well thank Bille and the other suse dude mostly :) | 05:48 |
| Riddell | danimo: knetworkmanager? | 05:48 |
| danimo | Riddell: right, I already send 'em patches and suggestions | 05:48 |
| danimo | Riddell: we just need nm 0.6.2 :( | 05:49 |
| danimo | Riddell: yes | 05:49 |
| danimo | Riddell: because that one supports openvpn | 05:49 |
| Riddell | danimo: we have n-m 0.6.2 | 05:49 |
| Riddell | it went into the archive yesterday or the day before | 05:49 |
| danimo | Riddell: we do? since when? | 05:49 |
| danimo | Riddell: cool, can we import network-manager-kde from no-ip.org then? | 05:50 |
| danimo | Riddell: (and update it to the version from kdereview while at it) | 05:50 |
| Riddell | danimo: network-manager-kde is also in the archive :) | 05:50 |
| danimo | Riddell: oh, wow, I should switch back to the uk server | 05:50 |
| Riddell | universe only at the moment | 05:51 |
| danimo | Riddell: that's totally fine with me | 05:51 |
| danimo | Riddell: what version of network-manager-kde is in universe? | 05:57 |
| Riddell | danimo: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/k/knetworkmanager/ | 05:58 |
| Riddell | r5961 | 05:58 |
| Riddell | it's the one the guy put on his blog | 05:58 |
| danimo | ok | 05:59 |
| danimo | Riddell: blog? | 06:02 |
| Riddell | http://blog.nouse.net/ | 06:03 |
| danimo | Riddell: Riddell: ah, cool | 06:11 |
| danimo | Riddell: still I miss the vpn support for some reason | 06:11 |
| danimo | Riddell: do you know of the "offline mode" of knetworkmanager is supported? | 06:12 |
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| robotgeek | Riddell: is the behaviour of konq profiles going to be these same as in breezy? | 06:51 |
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| Riddell | robotgeek: how do you mean? | 06:57 |
| robotgeek | Riddell: tonio was talking about moving kde profiles to a new package, etc | 06:57 |
| Riddell | robotgeek: never heard of that | 06:57 |
| Riddell | robotgeek: the konqueror profile has some menu items put back, but it otherwise the same | 06:58 |
| robotgeek | Riddell: okay. i will copy over the How do I change Konqueror back to the default KDE profiles? from http://www.kubuntu.org/faq.php | 06:58 |
| Riddell | yeah, should still be right | 07:00 |
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| Pygi | I want a way to have a language and locale attributes linked to the user in | 08:02 |
| Pygi | the user management | 08:02 |
| Pygi | each user should have it's own associated language & locales | 08:02 |
| Pygi | any idea how to do it? ^_^ | 08:02 |
| Riddell | Pygi: each user can set their language in system settings | 08:03 |
| Riddell | but you can't set someone else's | 08:03 |
| Riddell | maybe that should be added to userconfig | 08:03 |
| Pygi | yup, that's what I am talking about | 08:03 |
| Pygi | Riddell: that shouldn't be too hard to do, right? | 08:04 |
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| === Pygi pokes Riddell :) | ||
| Riddell | Pygi: add it to the KubuntuFutureIdeas page | 08:08 |
| Pygi | Riddell: will do...so that won't be in for Dapper? ^_^ | 08:09 |
| Riddell | nicer would be if kdm supported selecting language on login | 08:09 |
| Pygi | yup, agreed | 08:09 |
| Riddell | Pygi: no, dapper is in feature freeee | 08:09 |
| Riddell | freeze | 08:09 |
| === pradeepto pokes Riddell :) | ||
| Pygi | thanks | 08:10 |
| robotgeek | http://doc.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/desktopguide/C/ch04s03.html can someone verify this for me? the digital camera section | 08:10 |
| pradeepto | Riddell: how do you tackle if shortcuts of two application tend to over write each other after installation? | 08:10 |
| pradeepto | Riddell: that happens in Dapper with - yakuake and kerry, both get activated by F12 ? | 08:11 |
| Tm_T | hum | 08:11 |
| pradeepto | So the second application when installed sort of disables the first one till we change the key binding. | 08:12 |
| Riddell | pradeepto: that is a problem we have not yet solved | 08:12 |
| pradeepto | Riddell: oke thats a known problemo right, so no need to file a bug? | 08:13 |
| Riddell | pradeepto: I think there's already one open for it | 08:13 |
| Pygi | Riddell: added, nice ^_^ | 08:13 |
| pradeepto | Riddell: ok thanks | 08:15 |
| Riddell | robotgeek: I've no time, poke Pygi or pradeepto to look it over | 08:15 |
| Pygi | robotgeek: how may I help you? ^_^ | 08:16 |
| robotgeek | Pygi: i don't own a digital camera, need you to tell me if the section on digital camera is correct http://doc.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/desktopguide/C/ch04s03.html | 08:16 |
| === Pygi runs to see | ||
| Pygi | robotgeek: seems fine...whats the issue? | 08:17 |
| robotgeek | Pygi: is that what happens? i have no clue :) | 08:18 |
| Pygi | robotgeek: yup, that's what happens =P | 08:18 |
| robotgeek | Pygi: great! | 08:18 |
| Pygi | I already thought it was something more urgent =P | 08:19 |
| pradeepto | Pygi: actually it is. | 08:19 |
| Pygi | pradeepto: what happened this time? =P | 08:19 |
| pradeepto | As robotgeek will tell you that April 6 is freeze date for kubuntu guide :) | 08:20 |
| Pygi | AHHHHHHHHHh | 08:20 |
| Pygi | that's why =P | 08:20 |
| pradeepto | So you just reviewed a chapter :) | 08:20 |
| === Pygi yays ;) | ||
| jjesse | next you can write chapters :) | 08:21 |
| Riddell | jjesse: did you get the e-mail I bounced to you? | 08:22 |
| robotgeek | jjesse: svn up again :) | 08:22 |
| jjesse | which one Riddell? i got two one on fixing konqi help problem and the book | 08:22 |
| Pygi | jjesse: thanks, but I think I will skip for now... There are more serious issues that need to be adressed, and I still have that damn headache | 08:22 |
| jjesse | Pygi: grin i hope your headoache goes away | 08:23 |
| Pygi | jjesse: thank, I do as well =P | 08:23 |
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| Riddell | jjesse: from Mario Guerra | 08:24 |
| jjesse | Riddell: must be on my home pc i can check later, unless you can resend it | 08:25 |
| Riddell | jjesse: where do I resend it to? | 08:26 |
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| jjesse | Riddell: same address i can grab it before it downloads to my pc @ home | 08:26 |
| Pygi | pradeepto: you should have said earlier so I could review big parts of handbook | 08:27 |
| Riddell | bounced | 08:27 |
| pradeepto | Pygi: heh robotgeek is man you should talk to about this. I am n00b, just running around all the places :) | 08:27 |
| robotgeek | Pygi: you mean desktop guide? | 08:27 |
| Pygi | robotgeek: I don't know...whatever needs reviewing =P | 08:28 |
| Pygi | But my time is higly limited, especially at this moment :-/ | 08:28 |
| robotgeek | Pygi: no problem, we are almost done :) | 08:28 |
| Pygi | robotgeek: ah,k...poke me for dapper+1 =P | 08:28 |
| Pygi | But like 5 months before =P | 08:28 |
| robotgeek | Pygi: heh, wont even start :) | 08:29 |
| Pygi | won't start what? bah... still ..I knew to know 5 month in advance if you want me to get time to review it :P | 08:29 |
| jjesse | Riddell: got that email and there isn't slow progress :) | 08:30 |
| Riddell | jjesse: yes, I'm wondering where he got that idea from | 08:30 |
| Pygi | s/knew/need | 08:31 |
| Riddell | jjesse: can I trust you to reply and bring him into the team? | 08:31 |
| jjesse | Riddell: yes of course, working on reply already :) | 08:31 |
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| Pygi | robotgeek: I stand corrected...Lure = No response to pluging camera ... might be due to lack of drivers or somethin' | 08:59 |
| robotgeek | Pygi: i also added section about digikam, just in case | 08:59 |
| Pygi | robotgeek: will look | 09:00 |
| Pygi | hm, nothing changed there or? =P | 09:00 |
| robotgeek | Pygi: well, it's upstream only. it only updates twice a a day | 09:01 |
| Pygi | robotgeek: lemme see pls? ^_^ | 09:01 |
| robotgeek | Pygi: let me upload somewhere | 09:01 |
| robotgeek | Pygi: http://www.robotgeek.org/kubuntu/ch05s03.html | 09:04 |
| Pygi | robotgeek: thx | 09:04 |
| Pygi | robotgeek: nice, continue the good work ^_^ | 09:04 |
| robotgeek | Pygi: thanks :) | 09:04 |
| jjesse | Riddell: email sent to mario | 09:07 |
| Pygi | jjesse: huh, what you sent to me? :) (joking) :) | 09:07 |
| jjesse | grin i'm glad someone still has a sense of humor :) | 09:07 |
| jjesse | Pygi: is your name mario? | 09:07 |
| Pygi | yes =P | 09:08 |
| Riddell | Pygi: and did you send an e-mail saying how slowly the kubuntu docs were going? | 09:09 |
| Pygi | Riddell: no =P | 09:10 |
| Riddell | Pygi: good good, just checking :) | 09:10 |
| Pygi | Well, I said I was joking =P | 09:10 |
| jjesse | quick everyone jump Pygi and beat him up :P | 09:10 |
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| Riddell | now now, no call for violence | 09:10 |
| === Pygi threatens to stop packagin new n-m versions, and fixing bugs =P | ||
| jjesse | ok i take back everything mean i said :) | 09:11 |
| === robotgeek waves to Pygi | ||
| === Pygi will be back sometimes later | ||
| jjesse | should kubuntu/kde automatically adjust for time changes (ie daylight savings, etc?) | 09:16 |
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| Riddell | jjesse: yes | 09:25 |
| jjesse | hmmm it didn't | 09:26 |
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| Lure | jjesse: strange - it did here (CET) | 09:28 |
| Riddell | jjesse: the locales stuff has changed in dapper, possibly it's broken for your timezone | 09:28 |
| Lure | Riddell: seen https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuPowersave reports? | 09:35 |
| Lure | it looks that powersave is just better and no real regression | 09:35 |
| Lure | some smaller issues to fix before UVFe I think | 09:36 |
| robotgeek | Lure: now with ppc packages? | 09:37 |
| Lure | not yet :( | 09:37 |
| Lure | need volunteer to build it | 09:38 |
| robotgeek | Lure: i tried to get from mbeil's repo, but no avail | 09:38 |
| Lure | (also requests for amd64) | 09:38 |
| robotgeek | Lure: i can build it :) | 09:38 |
| robotgeek | raphink also, freeflying also | 09:38 |
| Lure | It looks like another powersaved release is around the corner (bugfixes) and that might be right time to request UVFe and push new stuff to universe | 09:39 |
| Lure | robotgeek: grab source from kubuntu.no-ip.org and then we can arrange to upload .deb | 09:39 |
| Lure | (I have ftp access Tonio gave me) | 09:40 |
| Lure | if we do some ppc testing before, even better | 09:40 |
| Lure | raphink was testing a while back and was not very successful | 09:40 |
| Lure | :-( | 09:41 |
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| danimo | Riddell: is the "go offline" functionality in nm supposed to work with kmail? | 10:00 |
| danimo | Riddell: it does in suse afaik | 10:00 |
| Riddell | danimo: no idea, never used it | 10:01 |
| Riddell | possibly they patch kmail for it | 10:01 |
| kwwii | re | 10:04 |
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| danimo_ | Riddell: no, kmail has a dcop call for it | 10:09 |
| danimo_ | Riddell: dcop kmail KMailIface stopNetworkJobs | 10:09 |
| danimo_ | Riddell: and dcop kmail KMailIface resumeNetworkJobs | 10:09 |
| danimo_ | Riddell: we just need to fire those when n-m sends the according events | 10:09 |
| Riddell | hmm, right | 10:09 |
| Riddell | well it should just work then | 10:09 |
| danimo_ | Riddell: not sure how suses does it | 10:09 |
| danimo_ | and I think at least kopete supports it, too | 10:09 |
| Riddell | if it's build into knetworkmanager | 10:10 |
| danimo_ | not sure if knm emits dcop signals itself | 10:10 |
| danimo_ | hmm, there is "connectAll" and "disconnectAll" | 10:10 |
| danimo_ | not sure if you really want to connect every time you connect to a network | 10:11 |
| Riddell | there we go, we need to patch kded-networkstatus :) | 10:11 |
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| danimo_ | we do? | 10:11 |
| danimo_ | Riddell: let's do it :) | 10:11 |
| Riddell | see the super sekret channel | 10:12 |
| danimo_ | Riddell: it's worth it I reckon | 10:12 |
| Riddell | well, we need to find the patch first :) | 10:12 |
| === danimo_ pulls the patch from suse's source package | ||
| Riddell | means digging through suse factory | 10:12 |
| danimo_ | aye | 10:12 |
| kwwii | haha! | 10:13 |
| kwwii | me is going crazy from working on buttons | 10:14 |
| === kwwii of course | ||
| kwwii | I give up | 10:14 |
| Riddell | kwwii: what's the problem? | 10:14 |
| kwwii | I know now that I hate buttons | 10:14 |
| kwwii | dude, it is sooo hard to make something different that will still look good with the theme as it is | 10:14 |
| kwwii | or I can start messing around with different options to mix things, etc....nasty work | 10:15 |
| Riddell | well we can change the theme too if necessary | 10:15 |
| kwwii | well, I think I am pretty close to having something for everyone to hate :-) | 10:15 |
| kwwii | let me finish what I am doing and then we can discuss the future | 10:15 |
| kwwii | but for tonight I am about done with it | 10:16 |
| kwwii | something for tomorrow morning when my head is clear | 10:16 |
| danimo_ | kwwii: what are you trying to do? | 10:16 |
| Riddell | danimo_: window decorations | 10:16 |
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| danimo | ic | 10:17 |
| kwwii | danimo_: make new buttons for the crystal-vista theme which do not look like vista but still look good with the rest | 10:17 |
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| danimo | is that supposed to be the new default? | 10:17 |
| kwwii | not just "window decorations" but editing existing code by changing pixmaps and settings | 10:17 |
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| Riddell | danimo: yes | 10:17 |
| Lure | kwwii: can you publish somethng already (even if still marked as "work in progress")? | 10:18 |
| === _Sime wonders if danimo's problems with guidance and displayconfig have cleared up. | ||
| danimo | _Sime: nope, the gamma sliders still won't work | 10:19 |
| danimo | what is guidiance? | 10:19 |
| danimo | fuck suse has a whole lot of patches | 10:19 |
| kwwii | Lure: I will have something to test tomorrow morning (or perhaps midday) even if everyone hates it :-) | 10:19 |
| _Sime | danimo: http://www.simonzone.com/software/guidance/#screenshots | 10:19 |
| kwwii | I have to export all the pics (the xcf file is ready) and that takes time and concentration | 10:20 |
| Lure | kwwii: not for test, just screenshot on wiki to get prepared... ;-) | 10:20 |
| kwwii | Lure: I would rather that everyone test it and say exactly what they do not like | 10:20 |
| Lure | kwwii: fine with me... | 10:20 |
| kwwii | it would help me to determine what is an "art" bug and what is an "implementation" bug | 10:20 |
| Lure | kwwii: I do not want to push on you.... | 10:21 |
| kwwii | (although I strongly disagree with the idea of art bugs) | 10:21 |
| Lure | ;-) | 10:21 |
| kwwii | hehe, if I can make a screenshot of it then I bug Riddel to make a package out of it :-) | 10:22 |
| danimo | argl, there are so many patches in suse rpms that should go upstream | 10:22 |
| danimo | it's just sick | 10:22 |
| kwwii | I don't talk about suse anymore :-) | 10:24 |
| danimo | kwwii: right, I'll bug beineri next time | 10:24 |
| kwwii | YES! he needs something to keep him angry | 10:24 |
| kwwii | you should pop by suse and see the looks on everyones faces - it is refreshing for me | 10:25 |
| danimo | kwwii: well, that's beineri | 10:25 |
| danimo | kwwii: they asked for him so they got him | 10:25 |
| Lure | kwwii, danimo: you both worked for suse before? | 10:25 |
| danimo | Lure: kwwii did, I just happen to know the guy | 10:26 |
| kwwii | well, I worked for suse for almost 7 yeras | 10:26 |
| kwwii | years | 10:26 |
| Lure | kwwii: so you did suse KDE design? nice work, consitent and unique... | 10:27 |
| kwwii | Lure: I did all the kde stuff, all the (pre ximian days) gnome stuff, by choice, and lots more (marketing broschures, mouse pads, coffee cups, t-shirts, etc.) | 10:28 |
| Lure | nice to have you around for dapper... ;-) | 10:29 |
| kwwii | thanks! nice to be here :-) | 10:31 |
| danimo | Riddell: found the patch | 10:33 |
| danimo | Riddell: interested? | 10:33 |
| Riddell | danimo: top stuff | 10:33 |
| Riddell | danimo: sure, although I can't test it today | 10:33 |
| Riddell | if you need it super fast you'll need to fix the packages yourself | 10:34 |
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| danimo | Riddell: I'll do, if you tell me where the packages end up when pulling them with apt-get source | 10:34 |
| Riddell | danimo: which package is it for? kdelibs? | 10:35 |
| danimo | Riddell: generally: http://daniel.molkentin.de/networkstatus_glib_dbus.diff | 10:35 |
| danimo | Riddell: kdepim | 10:35 |
| danimo | Riddell: since for now it is kmail/kontact specific | 10:35 |
| Riddell | danimo: apt-get source kdepim | 10:35 |
| Riddell | apt-get build-dep kdepim | 10:35 |
| Riddell | apt-get install devscripts fakeroot | 10:35 |
| Riddell | cd kdepim-<tab> | 10:35 |
| Riddell | put the patch into debian/patches/kubuntu_xx_ddd | 10:36 |
| Riddell | dch -i to add a new changelog entry | 10:36 |
| Riddell | debuild | 10:36 |
| Riddell | cd .. | 10:36 |
| Riddell | ls | 10:36 |
| Riddell | voila, new .debs | 10:36 |
| danimo | Riddell: cool | 10:36 |
| danimo | Riddell: I'll tell you once it works | 10:36 |
| danimo | Riddell: can I send you the changed source pkg? | 10:36 |
| Riddell | then debdiff <old>.dsc <new>.dsc and send me the patch | 10:36 |
| danimo | Riddell: or are you basically going to redo it? | 10:36 |
| danimo | ok, fine | 10:37 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: do you know a good example for howto package qmaked software? | 10:37 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: qt? | 10:37 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: you can't do it with cdbs | 10:37 |
| apachelogger | hm | 10:37 |
| === apachelogger checks the qt rules | ||
| Riddell | apachelogger: is speedcrunch also qmake maybe? | 10:37 |
| danimo | Riddell: yes | 10:38 |
| danimo | Riddell: but I thought it even was qt4 | 10:38 |
| Riddell | we didn't upgrade to the qt4 speedcrunch | 10:40 |
| danimo | ah, ok | 10:40 |
| Riddell | they didn't want qt4 in main just for a small app | 10:40 |
| danimo | Riddell: it's not in main? | 10:40 |
| danimo | Riddell: why? | 10:40 |
| Riddell | danimo: it is in main, that's why we stuck with the old qt3 version for dapper | 10:40 |
| Riddell | oh, qt4 isn't in main yet, since nothing needs it | 10:41 |
| Riddell | definatly will be for dapper +1 | 10:41 |
| danimo | ah, ok | 10:41 |
| danimo | Riddell: did you consider to take over suse's "remove arts" patches? | 10:41 |
| Riddell | danimo: I did then I a laughed for a while and considered better things | 10:42 |
| danimo | Riddell: why? | 10:42 |
| danimo | I haven't actually looked at the quality | 10:42 |
| Riddell | arts may be old but that's too big a deviation from KDE for me to want to support | 10:42 |
| danimo | but it was a huge relief | 10:42 |
| danimo | Riddell: I see your point, though | 10:42 |
| danimo | Riddell: especially when it needs to be maintained for the next what? 5 years? | 10:42 |
| Riddell | danimo: does suse still do that? | 10:43 |
| toma | Riddell: fyi, my cups problem was resolved, It pointed to a host which was not available and printing was blocked by that. editing the rc file, resolved that and i'm happily printing again with current dapper. | 10:43 |
| danimo | Riddell: yes | 10:43 |
| Riddell | beineri was complaining about it when he started working for them | 10:43 |
| danimo | Riddell: with pride apperantly | 10:43 |
| danimo | someone must have convinced him | 10:43 |
| danimo | Riddell: it's still in factory | 10:43 |
| Riddell | toma: interesting. why did it point to an unavailable host? | 10:43 |
| toma | Riddell: i configured it that way when the host was reachable | 10:45 |
| toma | that host was renamed later | 10:45 |
| danimo | Riddell: it automatically picks up all patches in debian/patches? | 10:46 |
| toma | Riddell: appearantly there is a very long timeout, when the host is reachable but is not responding to that port (and blocking the host app with it). | 10:49 |
| Riddell | danimo: yes | 10:50 |
| danimo | Riddell: ok, cool | 10:50 |
| Lure | danimo: you want to make kmail n-m connection aware (if I read the patch correctly)? | 10:54 |
| danimo | Lure: yepp | 10:54 |
| Lure | great | 10:54 |
| Lure | btw, is any way to configure multiple groups of account in kmail for different networks? | 10:55 |
| Lure | I have IMAP in company (but firewall prevents POP) and POP at home (but no IMAP) | 10:55 |
| danimo | Lure: uhm, good question. waitaminute | 10:56 |
| danimo | Lure: there is no "connection profile" | 10:56 |
| Lure | therefore I would need some kind of two profiles and enable/disable one depending on network | 10:56 |
| Lure | or at least manually | 10:56 |
| danimo | but let's check if we can hack around that | 10:56 |
| danimo | argl, why do the dbus includes have different names on debian? | 10:56 |
| Lure | danimo: really? should not have... | 10:57 |
| danimo | Riddell: the patch add dependencies to dbus and dbus-qt. where do I add those? | 10:57 |
| Lure | unless we have older dbus.... | 10:57 |
| danimo | /home/danimo/src/kubuntu-build/kdepim-3.5.2/./networkstatus/networkstatus.h:28:29: error: dbus/connection.h: No such file or directory | 10:57 |
| danimo | In file included from kded_networkstatus_la.all_cpp.cpp:2: | 10:57 |
| danimo | /home/danimo/src/kubuntu-build/kdepim-3.5.2/./networkstatus/networkstatus.cpp:36:23: error: dbus/dbus.h: No such file or directory | 10:57 |
| danimo | /home/danimo/src/kubuntu-build/kdepim-3.5.2/./networkstatus/networkstatus.cpp:37:26: error: dbus/dbus-qt.h: No such file or directory | 10:57 |
| danimo | I had the same when I tried to build knm from sources | 10:57 |
| kwwii | Riddell: is there a newer install CD for dapper/ppc that I can download? | 10:58 |
| Lure | apt-get build-dep kdepim (will get all required packages to build) | 10:58 |
| Lure | do it for knm and you will probably have enought also for kdepim (wuth dbus) | 10:58 |
| danimo | oha, I missed one include | 10:59 |
| danimo | err, one package | 10:59 |
| danimo | libdbus-qt-1-dev | 10:59 |
| danimo | I need to add that one to kdepims build-deps | 10:59 |
| Lure | yep | 10:59 |
| danimo | Lure: where/how does debian specify those? | 10:59 |
| danimo | just hacking up debian/control? | 11:00 |
| Riddell | kwwii: than what? flight 6 was out last friday | 11:00 |
| Riddell | danimo: add them as Build-Depends in debian/control | 11:00 |
| Lure | debian/control | 11:00 |
| danimo | manually? | 11:01 |
| kwwii | Riddell: cool, so flight6 is what I want, thanks :-) | 11:01 |
| Lure | yep - debuild packages whole debian dir in diff.gz | 11:01 |
| Riddell | danimo: libdbus-qt-1-dev | 11:01 |
| Riddell | danimo: add libdbus-qt-1-dev as a build depend, and dbus as a Depend of whichever package it is part of | 11:02 |
| Riddell | danimo: which package is it part of? | 11:02 |
| danimo | ok | 11:02 |
| danimo | not sure yet | 11:02 |
| Riddell | danimo: use debuild -nc to restart the build without cleaning stuff already built | 11:02 |
| kwwii | Riddell: will the reinstall wipe my home dir? | 11:04 |
| Riddell | kwwii: you can tell it not to reformat the drive and it should keep what's already there | 11:06 |
| Riddell | kwwii: take a backup though | 11:06 |
| kwwii | cool, will do that, thanks | 11:06 |
| Riddell | kwwii: and preferably just keep /home on a different partition | 11:06 |
| danimo | dbus/connection.h: No such file or directory | 11:06 |
| kwwii | see you tomorrow, downloading, burning and sleeping | 11:06 |
| === danimo checks include patches | ||
| kwwii | bye all | 11:06 |
| Riddell | kwwii: you can just upgrade from your current install easily enough too | 11:06 |
| danimo | bye kwwii | 11:06 |
| kwwii | Riddell: how? | 11:06 |
| Riddell | kwwii: use adept updater | 11:07 |
| kwwii | adept died the last time I tried to update | 11:07 |
| Riddell | ah | 11:07 |
| Riddell | kwwii: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade is the alternative | 11:07 |
| kwwii | wow, it seems my new DSL connection is already active | 11:09 |
| kwwii | downloading a CD and upgrading a buttload of packages at the same time | 11:09 |
| danimo | Riddell: there are quite some suseish patches in the configure-script | 11:10 |
| danimo | Riddell: do you know configure.in.in syntax? | 11:11 |
| Riddell | danimo: I try not to, can't you just add -I/usr/include/dbus-1.0/ to the relevant Makefile.am ? | 11:13 |
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| danimo | Riddell: why though? | 11:14 |
| danimo | Riddell: it doesn't have the libs either | 11:14 |
| danimo | so it would probably fail at linktime then | 11:14 |
| Riddell | danimo: what's it missing? | 11:14 |
| danimo | they commented out: | 11:14 |
| danimo | AC_SUBST(DBUS_INCS) | 11:15 |
| danimo | AC_SUBST(DBUS_LIBS) | 11:15 |
| Lure | danimo: same in knm, but it still builds... | 11:17 |
| danimo | odd | 11:17 |
| danimo | doesn't here | 11:17 |
| Lure | but there is bunch of other stuff | 11:18 |
| Lure | this is conf.in.in from knm: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/640878 | 11:18 |
| Lure | AC_CHECK_HEADER([dbus/connection.h] ,,[AC_MSG_ERROR([You need D-BUS/Qt3 bindings] )] ) | 11:19 |
| Lure | this probably does it | 11:19 |
| apachelogger | kdocker hates me :| | 11:20 |
| danimo | does debians buildsystem run make -f Makefile.cvs? | 11:20 |
| danimo | otherwise changes in configure.in.in's would never take effect | 11:20 |
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| Lure | if I remeber correctly, tonio did that on original package before applying debian diff | 11:21 |
| apachelogger | danimo: at least it doesn't here ;-) | 11:22 |
| Riddell | danimo: no | 11:23 |
| Riddell | danimo: run make -f debian/rules buildprep | 11:23 |
| danimo | Riddell: Riddell: are package builder obliged to do this before building? | 11:26 |
| Riddell | danimo: if you make changes to Makefile.am or configure.in.in yes | 11:27 |
| Riddell | sorry, I should have said, I forgot that adding that patch will need it to be run | 11:27 |
| danimo | Lure: ok, I added that check | 11:28 |
| danimo | Lure: now I am really curious | 11:28 |
| danimo | Lure, Riddell: eek, still no go | 11:38 |
| Lure | do you have /usr/include/dbus-1.0/dbus/connection.h | 11:39 |
| Lure | and what error do you get - still missing include? | 11:39 |
| danimo | yes | 11:42 |
| danimo | /home/danimo/src/kubuntu-build/kdepim-3.5.2/./networkstatus/networkstatus.h:28:29: error: dbus/connection.h: No such file or directory | 11:42 |
| Lure | and did configure report anything on dbus? | 11:43 |
| danimo | Lure: where does it put config.log to? | 11:43 |
| danimo | ah, got it | 11:43 |
| danimo | configure:47818: checking PACKAGE_CFLAGS | 11:44 |
| danimo | configure:47821: result: -DDBUS_API_SUBJECT_TO_CHANGE -I/usr/include/dbus-1.0 -I/usr/lib/dbus-1.0/include -I/usr/include/hal | 11:44 |
| danimo | odd | 11:44 |
| Lure | odd indeed | 11:44 |
| danimo | configure:48017: checking for dbus/connection.h | 11:44 |
| danimo | configure:48024: result: yes | 11:44 |
| danimo | probably it doesn't use that include properly | 11:44 |
| danimo | Lure: grml, looks like the original author had less clue about auto* than I do | 11:45 |
| Lure | looks like | 11:46 |
| danimo | I figured the problem | 11:46 |
| danimo | hopefully | 11:46 |
| danimo | I'll be so glad by the time cmake is the default | 11:46 |
| danimo | hmm | 11:48 |
| danimo | Lure: ok, I take that one back | 11:48 |
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| === danimo tries the brute-force approach | ||
| === Lure -> bed - good night | ||
| danimo | bye Lure | 11:55 |
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