[12:09] <badtrip712> hi all is there a way to burn the kubuntu install on a dvd because I only have some dvd+r
[12:10] <MacAnthony> why not just download the dvd iso badtrip712?
[12:11] <badtrip712> its exist?
[12:11] <MacAnthony> yes
[12:11] <badtrip712> can you give me the link please?
[12:11] <MacAnthony> for what version?
[12:11] <badtrip712> 6.06
[12:13] <vinboy> the adept-updater says i can upgrade linux-image
[12:13] <vinboy> should I upgrade linux-image?
[12:15] <robotgeek> vinboy: yes
[12:16] <vinboy> robotgeek: ok thanks... is it a kernel upgrade?
[12:16] <KDEfanboy> is there a live dvd?
[12:16] <robotgeek> vinboy: yup
[12:16] <vinboy> cool
[12:16] <vinboy> i love kernel upgrade
[12:16] <MacAnthony> badtrip712: I can find it for breezy, but I'm having trouble seeing a version for dapper
[12:16] <badtrip712> hum ok
[12:17] <badtrip712> is the dvd version work on amd64?
[12:19] <MacAnthony> From a torrent there is
[12:19] <mattt_> is there a way that i can setup device permissions for usb storage devices, such that they 'belong' to which ever user was logged in when the device was plugged in?
[12:19] <MacAnthony> http://torrent.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/breezy/release/dvd/
[12:20] <badtrip712> ok thanks
[12:20] <robotgeek> mattt_: probably some complex method with udev, i think
[12:20] <mattt_> >_< .. hm
[12:21] <hugelmopf> mattt_: you are not talking about usb storage devices with FAT filesystem, are you?
[12:21] <mattt_> is there some kind "universal" configuration parameters i can specify?
[12:21] <mattt_> hugelmopf: they tend to have fat, yeah
[12:21] <hugelmopf> mattt_: then i don't understand your question. fat filesystems don't have any owner or permissions.
[12:22] <hugelmopf> mattt_: ah, maybe the mount point
[12:22] <mattt_> yeah, the mp
[12:22] <hugelmopf> mattt_: but if you use pmount, the user who is mounting it, should become the owner, doesn't he?
[12:22] <mattt_> like, i can easily set it up so that my user/group is the owner, but what if someone else logs on
[12:23] <word> How do you install firefox? I have it extracted and I can actually run it but it's not listed in internet and stuff because it wasn't actually installed
[12:23] <mattt_> word: the Adept package manager has it
[12:23] <hugelmopf> mattt_: after all they don't get mounted automatically, and then whichever user mounted it would own it, i thought.
[12:23] <slow-motion> n8
[12:23] <mattt_> hugelmopf:  i get an error saying only root can mount
[12:23] <word> It does, but it's version 1.07
[12:24] <word> 1.0.7*
[12:24] <mattt_> word: ah yeh..
[12:24] <hugelmopf> mattt_: how are you trying to mount it and are you on breezy or dapper?
[12:24] <robotgeek> word: create a menu entry for it
[12:24] <mattt_> :O  can't remember now.. 5.10
[12:24] <hugelmopf> !firefox1.5
[12:24] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[12:24] <badtrip712> is the brezy install dvd version work on amd64?
[12:24] <word> Ok ubotu
[12:24] <mattt_> hugelmopf: i plug the device in, and then a dialog prompts me with options, i choose to open the file manager, and then get the error
[12:25] <robotgeek> badtrip712: it should say on the dvd iso?
[12:25] <hugelmopf> mattt_: that is on breezy with updated kde packages, right?
[12:25] <robotgeek> badtrip712: anyways, x86 stuff will work on amd64
[12:25] <dyrne__> badtrip712 i would recommend using the regular install cd instead of the 64 bit install
[12:25] <mattt_> hugelmopf: i just updated my whole system, so yeah
[12:25] <badtrip712> I dont have cds
[12:25] <badtrip712> I only have dvds
[12:26] <hugelmopf> mattt_: just to clarify that... you are using some KDE 3.5.x packages on breezy, and not the default 3.4.3 ones, right?
[12:26] <dyrne__> badtrip712 well dvd.  but i would stick with the i386 install
[12:26] <mattt_> hugelmopf: correct
[12:26] <dyrne__> badtrip712 then upgrade to i686 or k7 after install
[12:26] <hugelmopf> mattt_: if i recall correctly, they have some problems with that mounting wizard. it should work fine in dapper.
[12:27] <badtrip712> ok
[12:27] <hugelmopf> mattt_: so either you use "pmount /dev/sda1" etc. and then open that in the filemanager manually, or wait for dapper ;-)
[12:27] <mattt_> >_<
[12:27] <mattt_> ok
[12:27] <mattt_> thanks
[12:28] <hugelmopf> mattt_: what if you try to open /media/sda1 directly, after that mounting fails?
[12:29] <mattt_> hm
[12:29] <mattt_> havn't tried that
[12:29] <mattt_> but
[12:29] <mattt_> i just changed the permissions so i'm the owner.. i'll wait for dapper :P
[12:37] <mattt_> hm.. whaddya do when the taskbar freezes?
[12:38] <mattt_> wait.. apparently
[12:39] <robotgeek> mattt_: killall kicker
[12:41] <dipnlik__> is it possible to watch flv in kubuntu?
[12:42] <robotgeek> dipnlik__: hmm, you might need to decode, moment
[12:43] <dipnlik__> !flv
[12:43] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, dipnlik__
[12:45] <robotgeek> dipnlik__: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=33973 might help
[12:47] <dipnlik__> robotgeek: will take a look, thanks
[12:47] <dipnlik__> robotgeek: how can one add info to ubotu? maybe this link can be added
[12:48] <robotgeek> dipnlik__: is flv that common?
[12:48] <dipnlik__> robotgeek: google video and youtube
[12:48] <robotgeek> dipnlik__: hmm, okay. i think they work with w32codecs also
[12:49] <robotgeek> dipnlik__: i just download and watch them, (google video)
[12:51] <dipnlik__> robotgeek: i don't download them a lot, butmy roommate does. last time i checked google video the download options were lo-res only (ipod/psp)
[12:51] <robotgeek> dipnlik__: hmm, might be some firefox extension i installed.
[12:51] <dipnlik__> robotgeek: there is a greasemonkey script for that
[12:52] <robotgeek> dipnlik__: ah yes, most probably that.
[12:52] <dipnlik__> robotgeek: here on winxp, installing the script provides a download button, but it downloads as flv, which can be played with an flv player
[12:53] <robotgeek> dipnlik__: i am not sure, as i don't use windows, neither the w32codecs
[12:53] <dipnlik__> robotgeek: what program is playing your flv ?
[12:53] <robotgeek> dipnlik__: i just download avi. i am not sure (not too much of a youtuber either)
[12:54] <dipnlik__> robotgeek: ok, thanks :)
[12:57] <frank__> how do i change active channel in irssi?
[12:57] <Snake[NFSU] > frank__: Alt+ Number
[12:57] <Snake[NFSU] > ?
[12:58] <frank__> Snake[NFSU] : yeah. thanks!
[12:58] <Snake[NFSU] > frank__: np
[12:59] <_joel> i've just downloaded qtella, it gave me simple install instructions, tar it then cd to the folder it creates then ./configure then make then make install. only problem is make is an unknown program. any ideas?
[12:59] <Snake[NFSU] > _joel: First, let me save you a lot of time and energy with the uninstall
[12:59] <Snake[NFSU] > _joel: substitute this with "make install"
[12:59] <Snake[NFSU] > !checkinstall
[12:59] <ubotu> checkinstall is, like, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall
[01:00] <_joel> :) *loads*
[01:00] <Snake[NFSU] > _joel: also do "sudo apt-get install build-essential
[01:01] <_joel> well, it said it couldn't find checkinstall
[01:01] <Snake[NFSU] > _joel: do you have the multiverse/universe enabled?
[01:01] <_joel> but its happy to do build-essential
[01:01] <_joel> im sorry, i don't know what that is :)
[01:01] <Snake[NFSU] > Ill take it as a no :)
[01:01] <Snake[NFSU] > _joel: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto scroll ALLL the way down and follow the guide for kubuntu
[01:02] <Latem> is there a utility that can give me network usage statistics (more specifically average data rate) for a process over its execution?
[01:04] <Snake__> Latem: perhaps iftop?
[01:05] <Latem> ok ill look into it
[01:05] <Latem> thanks
[01:05] <hugelmopf> Snake__: that looks like a nice tool, i didn't know it.
[01:06] <Snake__> hugelmopf: whats that? checkinstall?
[01:06] <Snake__> or iftop
[01:06] <Snake__> lol
[01:06] <hugelmopf> iftop
[01:06] <Snake__> ah, i didnt know it either :P
[01:06] <_joel> ok, by doing that what am i now able to do, install checkinstall?
[01:07] <Snake__> _joel: sudo apt-get update
[01:07] <Snake__> _joel: when thats done, type "sudo apt-get install checkinstall"
[01:11] <_joel> i still can't seem to install it.. the 'make' command is asking for a makefile, apparently i don't have one? and the checkinstall is also
[01:11] <Snake__> _joel: inside the source dir, do "./configure"
[01:11] <_joel> *nods* done that twice now :P
[01:11] <Snake__> _joel: do it again since you installed checkinstall
[01:13] <neoncode> Does ubuntu express work on the kubuntu dapper Flight 6 Live CD?
[01:15] <Snake__> neoncode: did for me :)
[01:15] <Snake__> neoncode: best install I ever done
[01:15] <Snake__> _joel: hows it goin??
[01:15] <neoncode> Snake__: Sweet *Goes to download Kubuntu dapper flight 6 Live CD*
[01:15] <Snake__> neoncode: I dont think kubuntu has the expresso...
[01:16] <Snake__> neoncode: I used ubuntu's flight, I didnt see any expresso install for kubuntu
[01:16] <Snake__> neoncode: + kubuntu kinda sucks on dapper IMHO, its not much diffrent from breezy, if you wanna see progress, get the ubuntu :)
[01:17] <neoncode> Snake__: Ok... oh what's the minimum suggested spec?
[01:17] <Snake__> neoncode: Ehhhh who knows!
[01:17] <Snake__> :)
[01:17] <neoncode> will it run on a PIII?
[01:17] <robotgeek> neoncode: yes
[01:17] <Snake__> neoncode: mine is, p3 750
[01:17] <_joel> dunno really. i need some "Qt" files, but you have to pay for them or something? the ./configure errors asking me to --with-qt-moc= the location of these so-called "qt" files. i think i'mma give up if i gotta fork out dosh :)
[01:17] <Snake__> !qtincludes
[01:17] <ubotu> Snake__: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:17] <Snake__> oops
[01:18] <Snake__> _joel:
[01:18] <Snake__> !qt
[01:18] <ubotu> Qt is the Q-toolkit. Qt is to KDE what GTK is to GNOME. For the Qt includes, install the libqt3-mt-dev package
[01:18] <Snake__> sudo apt-get install libqt3-mt-dev
[01:18] <_joel> Snake__:  you're really quite helpful.
[01:18] <Snake__> _joel: :)
[01:18] <_joel> Snake__: a general question.. why don't all these things come installed with the distro?
[01:18] <robotgeek> _joel: unncessary waste of space?
[01:19] <Snake__> _joel: because they try to make it easy for n00bs, I too ask that question, I guess they presume no one will be building anything
[01:19] <_joel> ok
[01:19] <robotgeek> Snake__: _joel remember, it has to fit on one cd
[01:19] <neoncode> Snake__, robotgeek : I want to setup a secondary machene with ubuntu dapper, the flight  live CD didn;t install. and the Flight 5 install failed aswell... Oh well 3rd time lucky...
[01:19] <neoncode> flight 4 Live CD I mean
[01:20] <Snake__> robotgeek: trust me I know man, im running into space problems with my distro
[01:20] <_joel> or in my case on one dvd?:)
[01:21] <Danny> can someone help me with wpa_supplicant
[01:22] <_joel> it found the Qt moc and the Qt uic and the Qt libraries but when looking for the Qt includes it couldn't find the "headers"
[01:22] <Snake__> _joel: pastebin the error please
[01:22] <Snake__> !pastebin
[01:22] <ubotu> from memory, pastebin is a site where you can paste long texts so you don't disrupt the conversations in here. Install webboard for pasting via the gnome panel.
[01:22] <Snake__> ...gahhh
[01:22] <Snake__> _joel: pastebin.com
[01:24] <oxez> hm, if I backup my ~/.kde directory, (on breezey badger), then install kubuntu dapper, and then unpack my .kde.tar.gz, is there any chance of it working correctly?
[01:24] <_joel> http://pastebin.com/638866
[01:24] <Snake__> oxez: yep go for it
[01:24] <oxez> Snake__: cool thanks ;o
[01:25] <Danny> http://dknoppix.pastebin.com/638867
[01:25] <Snake__> noirequus: are you around?
[01:25] <Danny> is that the right config?
[01:25] <Danny> and how do I find the PSK?
[01:26] <Snake__> _joel: I told them to put a factoid for qt includes, but then they told me that !qt would give anyone anything they need...apparently not :(
[01:26] <robotgeek> _joel: you might need to ./configure --qt-lib=path/to/qt/lib
[01:26] <Snake__> robotgeek: where is the qt lib installed??
[01:27] <_joel> checking for Qt libraries... found in /usr/lib
[01:28] <_joel> well i don't know what a factoid is. should i give up and try find another filesharing app?
[01:28] <robotgeek> _joel: what are you trying to compile?
[01:28] <Snake__> _joel: what exactly are you tryin to complie?
[01:28] <_joel> qtella
[01:28] <Snake__> LOL
[01:29] <_joel> 0.6.5
[01:29] <robotgeek> _joel: use appollon
[01:30] <Danny> ?
[01:33] <kameron> awww man..
[01:33] <kameron> katapult has MAD integration with amarok.
[01:33] <Snake__> really??
[01:33] <kameron> that's the coolest thing ever.
[01:33] <kameron> oh dude.
[01:33] <Snake__> kameron: do share :)
[01:33] <kameron> get amarok running..
[01:33] <raphink> MAD?
[01:33] <Snake__> raphink: mad = great
[01:33] <Snake__> :)
[01:33] <kameron> then alt+space.. and type a song name that's in the play list.
[01:33] <kameron> and bam.
[01:33] <raphink> sure
[01:34] <kameron> it's playing in amarok.
[01:34] <raphink> oh great
[01:34] <frank__> kameron: nice
[01:34] <Snake__> No way.......
[01:34] <Snake__> lol
[01:34] <kameron> yes way!
[01:34] <raphink> do you know the calculator plugin in katapult too?
[01:34] <kameron> it's MAD i tell you :P
[01:34] <kameron> yes, i found that out raphink
[01:34] <Snake__> Naw I dont know that one either
[01:34] <raphink> :)
[01:34] <kameron> 3*4+3-1... it will evaluate the expression.
[01:34] <raphink> well alt+space
[01:34] <raphink> then type a calculus
[01:34] <raphink> like
[01:34] <kameron> like what i said :P
[01:34] <raphink> ln(18)-exp(25)*sqrt(12*34)
[01:35] <raphink> it calculates in real time
[01:35] <Snake__> hmm
[01:35] <Snake__> raphink: it doesnt work for the amarok thing?
[01:35] <raphink> I'll try
[01:35] <Snake__> oops
[01:35] <Snake__> i ment kameron **
[01:35] <Snake__> :)
[01:35] <kameron> Snake__, it doesn't?
[01:35] <raphink> yep it does
[01:35] <raphink> :)
[01:35] <frank__> raphink: that's really cool! sin(pi) =?   0
[01:35] <kameron> works for us.
[01:36] <raphink> but you have to know your songs by heart
[01:36] <Snake__> :(
[01:36] <raphink> frank__: yes
[01:36] <raphink> :)
[01:36] <Snake__> I cant even do it while im looking at the playlist lol
[01:36] <kameron> Snake__, hmm.. well, this is how i have it set up.
[01:36] <raphink> kameron: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[01:36] <raphink> dapper?
[01:36] <kameron> on the left plane.. click playlists, then collection, then double click "all collection".. so everything is in your playlist.
[01:37] <Snake__> breezy
[01:37] <Snake__> kameron: I got tha too
[01:37] <kameron> then try alt+space... maybe it only works with what's in the playlist.
[01:37] <kameron> ahhh, i am in dapper...
[01:37] <Snake__> oh :(
[01:37] <raphink> hehe
[01:37] <raphink> tht's why i guess
[01:37] <Snake__> might be latest katapult then
[01:37] <Snake__> frank__: dapper?
[01:37] <raphink> it's a new version of katapult that's needed
[01:37] <kameron> maybe katapult/amarok has been updated. will, without doubt it has been.
[01:37] <frank__> Snake__: yeah I'm trying dapper right now
[01:37] <Snake__> gotta be it then
[01:37] <raphink> of course it's been updated kameron;)
[01:37] <Snake__> I just uninstalled my dapper
[01:37] <Snake__> lol
[01:37] <raphink> Snake__: why?
[01:38] <Snake__> Needed room for PClinuxOS
[01:38] <raphink> loooool
[01:38] <raphink> my goodness
[01:38] <raphink> uninstalling dapper for pclinuxos
[01:38] <frank__> Snake__: is that good? PCLinuxOS?
[01:38] <raphink> and keeping breezy
[01:38] <kameron> what does pclos have over mandriva? Snake__
[01:38] <raphink> frank__: it's mandriva based
[01:38] <Snake__> raphink: Unfornatly ubuntus live CD capabiltys are no where near that of PClinuxOs's
[01:38] <raphink> so it's rmp
[01:38] <raphink> rpm
[01:38] <Danny> anyone familiar with wpa supplicant?
[01:39] <raphink> Snake__: you need to install a pclinuxos LIVE CD ?
[01:39] <raphink> Danny: nope sorry
[01:39] <Snake__> raphink: Yes, im building my own live CDs, pclos can do that in one command, I couldn't find one tool like that for ubuntu
[01:39] <frank__> Snake__: I saw an article about a computer vendor who will sell  Linspire, Xandros and PCLinuxOS.  PCLinuxOS being the only free one
[01:39] <raphink> Snake__: cool
[01:39] <raphink> how is the live CDs better for pclinuxos?
[01:39] <raphink> what is better about them?
[01:39] <Snake__> Whatcha mean?
[01:40] <raphink> Snake__: what makes the PCLinuxOS live CD great?
[01:41] <Danny> brb
[01:41] <raphink> does it use a particular FS technology?
[01:41] <Snake__> No no no, I love ubuntu man, dapper is great, I had no problems with it, but I, as I said, am *building* custom live CDs
[01:41] <raphink> does it recognize hardware better?
[01:41] <raphink> hmm ok
[01:41] <raphink> the thing is that
[01:41] <kameron> Snake__, slax has a decent build process too
[01:41] <Snake__> raphink: when I install pclos, I can set up the system exactly how I want is distributed, type in "mklivecd" and it spits out a ISO copy of the current system
[01:41] <raphink> Ubuntu live CDs are real live CDs
[01:41] <raphink> like
[01:41] <raphink> they are a real system running live
[01:41] <raphink> instead of a live CD built on script stuff
[01:42] <kameron> Snake__, holy crap, that's cool
[01:42] <raphink> like knoppix
[01:42] <Snake__> Yes im aware of that, read up ;)
[01:42] <raphink> having remastered knoppix in the past, I can tell it's not the same
[01:42] <raphink> Snake__: ok
[01:42] <kameron> raphink, what are the differences?
[01:42] <raphink> kameron: you've probly noticed that when you boot an ubuntu live CD
[01:43] <raphink> you have a whole setup phase
[01:43] <Snake__> kameron: remastering knoppix is a whore. Ive looked at I dont know how many ways of doing it, and pclos was the easiest way to do it imho
[01:43] <raphink> and only then, it boots as if it were a real system
[01:43] <raphink> installed
[01:43] <raphink> with a boot splash and all
[01:43] <kameron> and that's better why raphink ?
[01:43] <raphink> Snake__: remastering knoppix is fairly easy imo
[01:43] <raphink> and very powerful
[01:43] <raphink> yes it is kameron
[01:44] <raphink> because it sets a real system, that behaves as an installed one
[01:44] <Snake__> raphink: Im sure its no where near remasting pclos man, the only thing I wish is that there was a 'base' system without all their packages
[01:44] <kameron> but why is that better?
[01:44] <raphink> except it uses UNIONFS to allow overwriting the files with rw data
[01:44] <Snake__> raphink: but all I do is type that command, and everything I see in front of me, is zipped into a livecd. I love it personally
[01:44] <raphink> kameron: it's cleaner, and can be automatically built from a snapshot of the system
[01:45] <raphink> whereas knoppix takes time to build properly
[01:45] <raphink> it has to be set by hand
[01:45] <raphink> with some scripts and so one
[01:45] <raphink> on
[01:45] <kameron> gotcha.
[01:45] <raphink> Snake__: can you modify the live CD once it's running?
[01:45] <raphink> like does it use UNIONFS and can you install/deinstall apps during your live session?
[01:45] <Snake__> raphink: just like any other live CD... Not permentatly, but yes, during the session you can
[01:46] <raphink> ok
[01:46] <_joel> robotgeek: my apollon won't connect. thank you for the advice
[01:46] <frank__> raphink: you can install apps during the session
[01:46] <raphink> not like any otherlive CD Snake__
[01:46] <raphink> this is a pretty recent feature
[01:46] <Snake__> Really??
[01:46] <Snake__> hmm
[01:46] <Snake__> :)
[01:46] <raphink> in knoppix it only appeared with 3.8
[01:46] <raphink> ;)
[01:46] <raphink> so a year ago or so
[01:47] <Snake__> ah, see that was my first encounter with linux
[01:47] <Snake__> 3.8
[01:47] <Snake__> :)
[01:47] <raphink> hehe
[01:47] <raphink> well 3.8 was the first version with UNIONFS iirc
[01:47] <raphink> and the first version I tweaked
[01:47] <Snake__> heh
[01:47] <raphink> had a lot of fun
[01:47] <raphink> since I didn't only want to install a bunch of softs
[01:47] <raphink> but also tweak the default config for the user
[01:48] <raphink> like ksplash, kicker, etc.
[01:48] <frank__> raphink: what is the 'union'? cd + ram?
[01:48] <raphink> UNIONFS allows to have two sources mounted on the same dir
[01:48] <raphink> one ro and one rw
[01:49] <frank__> raphink: I see
[01:49] <raphink> the ro being taken as default (CD) and the rw covering it where it differs (RAM &&/|| swap)
[01:49] <raphink> in that case that is
[01:50] <raphink> :)
[01:51] <Snake__> night raphink
[02:02] <xwolf-> !mp3
[02:02] <Glin|Jol> Winamp  5.20 Stopped
[02:02] <ubotu> well, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:09] <Danny> can someone help me with wpa_supplicant?
[02:11] <Danny> ?
[02:12] <frank__> Danny: told it wasn't easy ;)  sorry I can't help you though.
[02:12] <Danny> do you think I could just make my network WEP?
[02:13] <Danny> lol
[02:13] <Danny> but then it won't be secure :(
[02:13] <Danny> does this look right?
[02:13] <Danny> http://dknoppix.pastebin.com/638944
[02:13] <frank__> Danny: apparently wpa is crackable too. it's just harder to do it.
[02:14] <frank__> I don't know how it's supposed to be for the config
[02:15] <frank__> If all you want is that your neighbours don't use your internet connection, I would say wep is fine.
[02:15] <frank__> but wep is not really secure
[02:15] <Danny> yeah
[02:16] <xwolf-> how do i play wav files? O_o
[02:16] <Danny> is there a tool that makes it better?
[02:16] <frank__> Hell my neighbours could probably print on my roomates printer ;)
[02:16] <xwolf-> the cd is recognized, but it doesnt play in amarok :/
[02:16] <frank__> Danny: that makes what better?
[02:16] <Danny> I mean a tool
[02:16] <Danny> that is easier to use
[02:17] <frank__> Danny: for wpa? not yet. I don't know about dapper
[02:17] <Danny> ok..let move on to my ethernet connection
[02:18] <Danny> I connect the cable to my lappy
[02:18] <Danny> and enable it in the config
[02:18] <Danny> but it doesn't connect
[02:20] <frank__> Danny: should it configure with dhcp?
[02:20] <Danny> i dunno
[02:20] <Danny> I tried dhcp
[02:20] <Danny> want me to put my ipconfig /all on pastebin/
[02:21] <frank__> Danny: what are you connecting it too? a router?
[02:21] <Danny> yes
[02:21] <Danny> but on windows its wireless
[02:21] <frank__> Danny: so you set it to dhcp and it won't enable?
[02:22] <Danny> no
[02:23] <frank__> Danny: try sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[02:23] <Danny> when its plugged in?
[02:24] <frank__> Danny: yes
[02:24] <Danny> ok
[02:24] <Danny> I'll need to reboot and do it lol
[02:24] <Danny> any ideas if that doesn't work?
[02:25] <frank__> Danny: actually can you try to connect with the wired network to your router using windows?
[02:25] <Danny> yes
[02:25] <Danny> it connects
[02:25] <Danny> I think
[02:25] <Danny> brb
[02:46] <psychiccyberfrea> hey I need some help
[02:47] <mattt_> get a mac.
[02:47] <xwolf-> eauheAUHEauheauheauhe
[02:47] <psychiccyberfrea> lol no seriously
[02:47] <mattt_> seriously, that's all the help you'll need
[02:47] <_jonathan> i hear bsd is nice too
[02:47] <mattt_> kpilot just erased my whole palm pilot and i've pretty much reached my breaking point.
[02:47] <psychiccyberfrea> I need to install the package kubuntu-desktop but apt-get cant find it in the database
[02:48] <_jonathan> have you updated it?
[02:48] <_jonathan> apt-get update ?
[02:48] <psychiccyberfrea> yeah update manager says I'm all up to date
[02:49] <_jonathan> ok, then it might be that you don't have the correct source added
[02:49] <psychiccyberfrea> ok
[02:49] <_jonathan> let me look
[02:49] <_jonathan> i might be wrong
[02:49] <psychiccyberfrea> yeah it is a new install, just did it a while ago
[02:49] <psychiccyberfrea> like a few hours ago
[02:49] <_jonathan> ubuntu i assume?
[02:49] <psychiccyberfrea> yeah
[02:49] <neoncode> Why does kaffeine seem so unstable?
[02:49] <_jonathan> do you want both or just kde?
[02:50] <psychiccyberfrea> it would be nice if I could get both
[02:50] <_jonathan> ok
[02:50] <psychiccyberfrea> but I'm pretty good in KDE, so I gusee if I have to I can
[02:50] <_jonathan> oh, duh...
[02:51] <_jonathan> have you uncommented the repositories in /etc/apt/sources.list?
[02:51] <psychiccyberfrea> lemmie try that
[02:51] <_jonathan> yeah
[02:51] <_jonathan> now...real quick
[02:51] <_jonathan> i wouldn't do that with the src ones...that's just source code
[02:51] <_jonathan> i don't think you'll need that
[02:52] <xwolf-> which one should i install, xine or mplayer?
[02:52] <xwolf-> !xine
[02:52] <_jonathan> personally i like xine
[02:52] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, xwolf-
[02:52] <xwolf-> !mplayer
[02:52] <ubotu> well, mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[02:53] <xwolf-> _jonathan adept has some xine packages... i'm considering the installation of amarok-xine kaffeine-xine and upgrading libxine1c2
[02:53] <psychiccyberfrea> ok uncommented it lemmie try it again...
[02:54] <_jonathan> make sure you update again psyc
[02:54] <_jonathan> amarok-xine isn't xine
[02:54] <_jonathan> its just a engine for amarok
[02:54] <psychiccyberfrea> now I'm updating
[02:54] <xwolf-> i see no xine for kde, just gtk
[02:55] <_jonathan> hang on
[02:55] <_jonathan> i'll look again
[02:55] <_jonathan> i think it's xine-gui or something
[02:55] <xwolf-> there is xine-ui
[02:55] <_jonathan> there yah go
[02:55] <xwolf-> yeah, ok, i got it.
[02:55] <_jonathan> you'll need libdvdcss for dvd's
[02:56] <psychiccyberfrea> I think aRts is pretty good
[02:56] <xwolf-> 1. what is aRts?
[02:56] <_jonathan> i had problems with it on podcasts
[02:56] <_jonathan> another amarok engine
[02:56] <xwolf-> 2. libdvdcss will come along with those i install, correct?
[02:56] <psychiccyberfrea> audio Rsomething tsomthing server
[02:56] <_jonathan> no
[02:56] <xwolf-> ok.
[02:56] <psychiccyberfrea> lol
[02:56] <_jonathan> lol, i'll catch hell over this but .... i used automatix for a lot
[02:57] <xwolf-> psychiccyberfrea rephrasing, what's aRts for? ;>
[02:57] <psychiccyberfrea> oh audio controll, kind of like xine
[02:57] <_jonathan> yeah
[02:57] <_jonathan> well, not a player really
[02:58] <_jonathan> how's the kde thing psyc?
[02:58] <psychiccyberfrea> ok now it's installing the packages... thanks
[02:58] <_jonathan> sweet...i personally like kde a lot more
[02:58] <_jonathan> seems to be more customizable
[02:58] <psychiccyberfrea> I kind of started KDE, and now I'm fooling around with gnome, I still like KDE's icons and stuff
[02:59] <_jonathan> i have to use windows on my laptop but I'd give anything to have kde on it
[02:59] <psychiccyberfrea> but I started with mandrake, and that was the one distro that made me want to cut myself each nite... lol
[02:59] <_jonathan> yeah i SO understand that
[02:59] <_jonathan> i did that too
[02:59] <_jonathan> i started with red hat 7.3 on desktop
[02:59] <psychiccyberfrea> it allways seems buggy, I have no clue why
[03:00] <_jonathan> i moved to mandrake...then i found mepis
[03:00] <_jonathan> no more rpm hell
[03:00] <psychiccyberfrea> I actually tried fedora but I had no clue how to use gnome at the time :)
[03:00] <_jonathan> i moved to kubuntu because of the nicer repositories and less clutter of mepis
[03:00] <psychiccyberfrea> sudo apt-get install kde
[03:00] <_jonathan> personally i do not need 6-7 editors
[03:00] <_jonathan> no
[03:00] <psychiccyberfrea> errors all the time
[03:01] <_jonathan> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[03:01] <psychiccyberfrea> I moved to ubuntu/kubuntu because that was the only distro giving away free CDs
[03:01] <psychiccyberfrea> I have a horrible DSL connection
[03:01] <_jonathan> lol
[03:01] <_jonathan> i do too sometimes
[03:01] <Raddium> hi
[03:01] <Raddium> any with ubuntucenter alpha?
[03:01] <psychiccyberfrea> anything over 500 megs just makes it a mess
[03:02] <_jonathan> LOL....so true
[03:02] <_jonathan> a guy just asked me today about suse
[03:02] <_jonathan> lol...asked why he needed 5 discs
[03:02] <psychiccyberfrea> or one DVD
[03:02] <_jonathan> i really didn't know
[03:02] <_jonathan> i'm wanting to play with gnome...might install ubuntu on my test pc
[03:02] <psychiccyberfrea> actually you need only one, and the rest are all the packages for apps
[03:03] <_jonathan> yeah, i just can't deal with rpms
[03:03] <_jonathan> i know there has to be an easier way than how i did but i just never ever liked them
[03:03] <psychiccyberfrea> wow, I still have to fix one more laptop before I go to bed...
[03:03] <_jonathan> fun
[03:04] <Danny> hmm
[03:04] <Danny> the wpa thingy is weird
[03:04] <Danny> oh yeah
[03:04] <psychiccyberfrea> it is if you know what you are doing
[03:04] <Danny> I can't connect via ethernet
[03:04] <Danny> wired in windows
[03:04] <psychiccyberfrea> wired or wireless
[03:04] <psychiccyberfrea> oh
[03:04] <psychiccyberfrea> in *squints* MS windows?
[03:05] <psychiccyberfrea> lol
[03:05] <Danny> yeah
[03:05] <_jonathan> lol, i think i'm in the mood to dl ubuntu lol
[03:05] <Danny> I'm making the transition ;)
[03:05] <psychiccyberfrea> yeah that's a pain
[03:05] <_jonathan> welcome to freedom danny :)
[03:05] <Danny> lol
[03:05] <Danny> I still need proggies though
[03:05] <_jonathan> painful freedom yes
[03:05] <Danny> not sure if I can do it in WINE
[03:06] <psychiccyberfrea> just put your files somewhere else (backup) and make a dual boot
[03:06] <Danny> already did
[03:06] <Danny> have it installed
[03:06] <psychiccyberfrea> oh
[03:06] <psychiccyberfrea> how do you like it?
[03:06] <Danny> just working on getting my connections set up
[03:06] <Danny> I like it alot :D
[03:06] <Danny> KDE is better than gnome IMO
[03:06] <Danny> to make my life easyer
[03:06] <psychiccyberfrea> yeah, more customizable
[03:06] <Danny> I logged in as root
[03:06] <_jonathan> i wish i could give you something danny but I don't know
[03:06] <psychiccyberfrea> I agree
[03:07] <_jonathan> have you tried the forums?
[03:07] <psychiccyberfrea> do you have kubuntu or ubuntu?
[03:07] <Danny> kubuntu
[03:07] <psychiccyberfrea> yeah I don't have KDE infront of me but I'll help
[03:08] <Danny> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=153918
[03:08] <Danny> I have a wpa connection
[03:08] <psychiccyberfrea> do you have all the drivers installed?
[03:08] <Danny> I dunno how to set up wpa_supplicant
[03:08] <Danny> yes
[03:08] <psychiccyberfrea> good.
[03:08] <Danny> wpa_supplicant supports it
[03:08] <psychiccyberfrea> do you ummm I don't know
[03:09] <Danny> lol
[03:09] <Danny> no problem
[03:09] <Danny> I logged in as root,
[03:09] <Danny> then changed the username to mine
[03:09] <Danny> and then set the pass
[03:09] <_jonathan> danny quick question
[03:09] <zephod> hey, can anyone help me with a fairl serious problem - i cant log in as administrator to mod my netowrk settings
[03:09] <Danny> so now I just login as that and have root privs so I don't have to sudo
[03:09] <_jonathan> can you turn wpa off and connect
[03:09] <Danny> probably
[03:09] <_jonathan> i would try that first
[03:10] <_jonathan> i would definately try that
[03:10] <Danny> I have to get access to my router
[03:10] <Danny> and switch it to WEP first
[03:10] <zephod> anyone?
[03:10] <_jonathan> make sure all is well with the connection before you add security
[03:10] <psychiccyberfrea> zephoid what was ur problem?
[03:10] <_jonathan> zephod....have you updated ?
[03:10] <Danny> the connnection works in windows
[03:11] <_jonathan> that's a problem with an inital install of kubuntu
[03:11] <zephod> ahah, cheers, where can i update?
[03:11] <zephod> (cheers _jonathan )
[03:11] <_jonathan> sudo apt-get update
[03:11] <_jonathan> then sudo apt-get upgrade
[03:11] <Danny> _jonathan, that was my problem
[03:11] <_jonathan> try that first
[03:11] <Danny> thats why I just switched my account to root
[03:11] <_jonathan> oh, hold up
[03:12] <Danny> and I didn't have an internet
[03:12] <zephod> cheers, havinga  go now
[03:12] <_jonathan> you might go to www.kubutnu.org and add the kde 3.5.2 reps
[03:12] <psychiccyberfrea> latah G
[03:12] <psychiccyberfrea> lol
[03:12] <_jonathan> that will get you the latest version
[03:12] <zephod> oh right
[03:12] <zephod> ill have a look
[03:13] <_jonathan> yeah, anything else let us know
[03:13] <_jonathan> lol....i remember that was so freaking annoying to me for the longest
[03:14] <zephod> am i going to have to start from scratch?
[03:14] <_jonathan> what do you mean...i don't think so
[03:15] <zephod> kk
[03:15] <_jonathan> wallpaper, etc you mean?
[03:15] <zephod> no, i meant reinstalling
[03:15] <_jonathan> oh no...i don't think so
[03:16] <_jonathan> do you know how to add repositories zephod?
[03:16] <psychiccyberfrea> now all of the sudden my root pswd changed
[03:16] <zephod> no
[03:16] <_jonathan> ok...the easist way i know of is open a console
[03:16] <constantine-xvi> has anyone noticed that the ability to add local printers has mysteriously dissapeared in dapper?
[03:16] <zephod> kk
[03:17] <Raddium> any with ubuntucenter alpha?
[03:17] <_jonathan> type sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:17] <Raddium> hi
[03:17] <Raddium> i have problems with ubuntu center
[03:17] <psychiccyberfrea> like what
[03:17] <_jonathan> give it your password and then you see the file
[03:17] <Raddium> when try http://localhost/center/
[03:17] <_jonathan> hit the "insert" key and you can edit the page
[03:17] <Raddium> x-httpd-php
[03:18] <Raddium> this file is trying to download
[03:18] <Danny> back :)
[03:18] <psychiccyberfrea> I'm gunna check out my new KDE intall later
[03:18] <_jonathan>  http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-352.php
[03:18] <Raddium> you know why i cant see the web
[03:19] <Raddium> and firefox try to download the x-httpd-php file
[03:19] <_jonathan> there are 4 lines there that begin with deb add them to the file
[03:19] <Danny> so...I should try making it WEP security?
[03:19] <_jonathan> no danny
[03:19] <_jonathan> first i would disable all security for long enough to make a connection
[03:20] <_jonathan> that way you rule out anything other than wpa
[03:20] <_jonathan> it might be that your having trouble with something other than wpa
[03:20] <Danny> ok
[03:20] <_jonathan> i know that's a risk, but you shouldn't have it down that long
[03:21] <_jonathan> are you still there zephod?
[03:21] <zephod> yes
[03:21] <zephod> not having much luck
[03:21] <Raddium> any with ubuntu center?
[03:21] <_jonathan> ok, where are you
[03:21] <Raddium> any with ubuntu center?
[03:23] <_jonathan> zephod, where are you currently on this?
[03:23] <zephod> in konsole, typed what you said and editing the lines
[03:23] <_jonathan> did you follow the link i put up?
[03:23] <zephod> yes
[03:23] <_jonathan> ok, good
[03:23] <zephod> how to save?
[03:23] <_jonathan> and you know how to uncomment
[03:23] <zephod> remove #
[03:23] <zephod> presumably
[03:23] <_jonathan> yeah, cool
[03:24] <frank__> !kdg
[03:24] <ubotu> Kubuntu Desktop Guide is at http://doc.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/desktopguide-web/C/index.html
[03:24] <_jonathan> ok, once you add those lines you hit esc key
[03:24] <Raddium> any with ubuntu center?
[03:24] <zephod> ok, esc did nothing
[03:24] <zephod> or appeared to
[03:24] <_jonathan> it should have removed the insert from the lower left
[03:24] <xwolf-> !wmv
[03:24] <ubotu> rumour has it, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[03:24] <zephod> oh, ok, perhaps it did that
[03:24] <_jonathan> hit shift and : key
[03:24] <xwolf-> !FreeFormats
[03:24] <ubotu> There are a large number of Free Formats which are preferred over patent and copyright encumbered formats. They are listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[03:25] <_jonathan> that should give you a : prompt
[03:25] <zephod> yes
[03:25] <_jonathan> type wqa then enter
[03:25] <_jonathan> that should take you back to a prompt
[03:25] <zephod> ok, back to teminal default now
[03:25] <zephod> yes
[03:25] <_jonathan> great
[03:25] <_jonathan> sudo apt-get update
[03:25] <_jonathan> sudo apt-get upgrade
[03:26] <zephod> doing update now
[03:26] <_jonathan> good
[03:26] <zephod> btw, where do you live, i owe you a box of chocolates or something :P
[03:26] <_jonathan> LOL
[03:26] <_jonathan> oddly enough arkansas, usa
[03:26] <zephod> little rock?
[03:26] <_jonathan> redneck USA
[03:26] <_jonathan> no, northeast corner
[03:27] <_jonathan> about an hour from jonesboro
[03:27] <zephod> lol, im uk, no clue really i just remember clinton being from there
[03:27] <_jonathan> ugh, we're trying to forget :)
[03:27] <zephod> lol, i frequent the pub where he famously smoked - BUT DID NOT INHALE
[03:27] <_jonathan> LOL
[03:28] <zephod> theres a blackboard commemorating him
[03:28] <_jonathan> yeah, i wonder if the police would believe that if i told them that
[03:28] <_jonathan> lol...i don't smoke anyways
[03:28] <zephod> lol, only thing police in oxford care about is whether or not you have lights on your bike, everything else seems to go by the wayside
[03:28] <_jonathan> just like he never had sexual relations with that woman....ms. lewensky
[03:29] <_jonathan> LOL
[03:29] <_jonathan> sadly they're kinda like that here too
[03:29] <zephod> its in the middle of the upgrade now
[03:29] <_jonathan> believe it or not, we've had police follow us home to make sure we make it when we were drunk
[03:30] <_jonathan> they didn't want to mess with arresting us :-)
[03:30] <constantine-xvi> has anyone noticed that the ability to add local printers has mysteriously dissapeared in dapper?
[03:31] <zephod> lol
[03:31] <_jonathan> so oxford huh?
[03:31] <zephod> yeah
[03:31] <zephod> still cant install linux though
[03:31] <_jonathan> ??
[03:31] <_jonathan> LOL
[03:32] <_jonathan> what's the problem now
[03:32] <zephod> its k, its on 40/124, so i might start a game of starcraft while im waiting
[03:32] <_jonathan> LOL
[03:32] <_jonathan> just don't give up on it
[03:33] <_jonathan> i have had to re-install XP a bunch of times before to give me a break but I always want to try again
[03:33] <_jonathan> i would love to visit england
[03:34] <zephod> well, you're welcome in either oxford or the isle of man
[03:34] <zephod> especially if you set something up for me whilst you're about
[03:34] <_jonathan> LOL, thanks...i would do what i could :)
[03:35] <Barbelos> Hey, just burned the flight 6 install CD and rebooted (md5sums were fine). System says it's booting from CD, and then starts up the grub loader from my SuSE install, what's wrong?
[03:35] <mvv> !kubuntu-desktop
[03:35] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, mvv
[03:35] <mvv> is it safe to remove kubuntu-desktop?
[03:35] <_jonathan> yes
[03:35] <bimberi> !ubuntu-desktop
[03:35] <ubotu> methinks ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when ugprading.
[03:36] <bimberi> mvv: ^^^^ applies to kubuntu-desktop too
[03:36] <_jonathan> Barb, have you 2 cd drives?
[03:37] <mvv> it's just that i want kaffeine to wipe away :p
[03:37] <zephod> my first linux attempt was with gentoo - i soon decided that was a mistake
[03:37] <mvv> thanks guys
[03:37] <_jonathan> LOL...yeah bad beginner's choice
[03:37] <Barbelos> _jonathan: Yes, one DVD-rom and a cdwriter. Never had a problem starting from either before
[03:37] <zephod> well, it was good until i tried to sort out a gui
[03:37] <zephod> couldnt config x at all
[03:37] <_jonathan> ok, try the other just for fun
[03:37] <zephod> and typing emerge kde was a mistake, think it should have been more specific
[03:37] <_jonathan> yeah, gentoo is a stepping stone for later
[03:38] <_jonathan> lol
[03:38] <_jonathan> barb, let me know how that works
[03:38] <zephod> did work well though, soon set it up so i oculd ssh into it and just use it as nas
[03:38] <_jonathan> cool, i like ubuntu actually for simple things
[03:38] <Barbelos> Just in case: Does anyone know how to add a grub entry to boot from CD?
[03:38] <zephod> looks good so far, except the obvious
[03:38] <_jonathan> lol, i dont
[03:39] <Barbelos> _jonathan: Ok, will do
[03:39] <zephod> kde much sexier than gnome
[03:39] <_jonathan> LOL
[03:39] <_jonathan> i feel like i can just do more with it
[03:39] <_intel> is there anyone who would try to help me with a socket problem on the mysql install?
[03:39] <_jonathan> the server install is what i use for small things
[03:39] <zephod> idd, need to mess with the colours a bit so it doesnt make me think of an apple lc475 on mac os8
[03:40] <_jonathan> _intel, i would if i could...i'm a moderate newbie :)
[03:40] <_jonathan> lol
[03:40] <_intel> same boat here couldn't spell nux yesterday
[03:40] <_jonathan> fyi ,nux :-)
[03:41] <zephod> 108 :D
[03:41] <_jonathan> i have to have panels
[03:41] <_jonathan> lol, i can't stand desktop icons
[03:44] <_jonathan> brb all
[03:45] <brandon_> http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060403/SCANNERS/60403001
[03:45] <brandon_> konq won't play those two flash movies
[03:49] <Barbelos> * sigh * Still can't boot from the flight 6 install CD. Never had any problems with that before. My SuSE cd boots here like it always did though....
[03:52] <zephod> bbiab, cheers _jonathan it appears to be working now, going to test after a restart
[03:52] <kevman> Hey, on the "start menu (kicker?)" there are several things like "lock computer" and "run command." How do I delete them?
[03:57] <_jonathan> Barb, you might check the cd again
[03:57] <_jonathan> if the suse cd boots fine, then it has to be the cd itself
[03:59] <Barbelos> _jonathan: Probably, though it's awfully strange. md5sum is correct for the image, and my k3b never burned a dud in its life. Looks like the CD starts up, and then suddenly grub is started from my harddrive
[03:59] <_jonathan> which one did you dl again
[03:59] <_jonathan> ubu or kubu
[04:00] <Barbelos> _jonathan: The kubuntu install CD for flight 6
[04:00] <_jonathan> hmm, i just dl'd the ubuntu flight 6
[04:00] <_jonathan> dang, was going to test it and see
[04:00] <Barbelos> _jonathan: I considered getting the live CD and trying that, but getting the install iso took too long already
[04:00] <_jonathan> yeah
[04:01] <_jonathan> i would just try burning it again
[04:01] <_jonathan> i hate to tell you to possibly waste another cd but
[04:01] <Barbelos> _jonathan: I never heard anyone else having the same rpoblem, so you'll probably be alright. Downgrading my k3b to an older version here now and burning again
[04:02] <_jonathan> i don't know that i would downgrade
[04:02] <_jonathan> just try burning it again
[04:05] <_jonathan> Barb, I'm going to go check on my basketball game...let me know how it goes, brb
[04:09] <psychiccyberfrea> hey its me again
[04:10] <Zephod> working
[04:11] <Zephod> moved it to the gateway i want it on now and can ssh into it nicely, thanks for all the help
[04:11] <psychiccyberfrea> umm how do I install aRts engine?
[04:12] <psychiccyberfrea> hello?
[04:12] <NeoChaosX> sudo apt-get install arts
[04:12] <psychiccyberfrea> ok thanks
[04:13] <NeoChaosX> No problem
[04:13] <kevman> no-one can help me?
[04:13] <psychiccyberfrea> ok that aint it
[04:13] <psychiccyberfrea> psychiccyberfreak@psych1:~$ sudo apt-get install arts
[04:13] <psychiccyberfrea> Password:
[04:13] <psychiccyberfrea> Reading package lists... Done
[04:13] <psychiccyberfrea> Building dependency tree... Done
[04:13] <psychiccyberfrea> arts is already the newest version.
[04:13] <psychiccyberfrea> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[04:14] <psychiccyberfrea> psychiccyberfreak@psych1:~$
[04:14] <robotgeek> psychiccyberfrea: please don't paste in here
[04:14] <psychiccyberfrea> sry
[04:14] <dr_house> hey .. can anyone help me with "ext2fsd" ?
[04:14] <psychiccyberfrea> in what way?
[04:14] <robotgeek> kevman: right click and delete?
[04:14] <dr_house> well .. i'm in windows xp x64 and i loaded the drivers properly
[04:15] <dr_house> but i can't figure out how to mount my ext3 drive
[04:15] <kevman> robotgeek, doesn't work with "lock session." Try it.
[04:15] <dr_house> i found out that it's disk1, partition 1
[04:15] <psychiccyberfrea> hmmm.
[04:15] <psychiccyberfrea> i'm not sure if windows likes ex3
[04:15] <robotgeek> kevman: that's cause it's locked :)
[04:15] <kevman> How do I unlock it, then?
[04:16] <dr_house> i read the docs and it says to do a "mount" command in dos shell, but it doesn twork
[04:16] <dr_house> psychiccyberfrea as i understand it, this software can make windows like it ;)
[04:16] <robotgeek> kevman: K-menu -> Unlock maybe?
[04:16] <psychiccyberfrea> yeah you shouldn't have to in linux. Anyway, this is a linux chat room, I don't think anyone can help you there, sry
[04:16] <robotgeek> dr_house: fs-driver.org maybe, not sure if it works in 64 bit windows
[04:17] <dr_house> robotgeek that didn't work for me .. but i googled and found a version that i think is supposed to work in x64
[04:17] <psychiccyberfrea> I've never used a 64 bit arch.
[04:18] <dr_house> i got it from http://ext2fsd.sourceforge.net/index.htm
[04:19] <kevman> robotgeek, there's no unlock command. I can remove the others, but not "lock session" and "change session"
[04:20] <xwolf-> i installed xine packages and everything, but how do i play streaming videos? mozilla-mplayer seems to be broken or sth like
[04:20] <robotgeek> kevman: i don't have those buttons also. maybe Right Click, "Remove Application"
[04:20] <kevman> No, this is in K-menu.
[04:21] <robotgeek> kevman: you want to remove Lock Session from K-Menu?
[04:23] <kevman> robotgeek, yes.
[04:24] <xwolf-> i installed xine packages and everything, but how do i play streaming videos? mozilla-mplayer seems to be broken or sth like
[04:26] <dipnlik__> anyone here has tips to convert videos to lower resolutions? the idea is to play on smartphones (nokia 6600, treo 600)
[04:28] <robotgeek> kevman: not quite sure if that's possible.
[04:29] <kevman> robotgeek, hmmm.
[04:38] <_jonathan> I'm glad everything worked out zephod
[04:38] <_jonathan> I've been watching a basketball game
[04:52] <Barbelos> Still not able to boot from the flight 6 install cd, strange since the md5sum is correct. The Live CD also features install, maybe I can try that?
[04:52] <robotgeek> Barbelos: it's called espresso.
[04:53] <robotgeek> Barbelos: it does work, but is risky (would try anything special with that)
[04:53] <robotgeek> Barbelos: best to try it if you have a separate hard drive
[04:54] <Barbelos> robotgeek: Hmmm.... Is the partitioner shot? Not a good prospect
[04:54] <robotgeek> Barbelos: i am not saying that it doesn't work, but it might not.
[04:55] <Barbelos> robotgeek: Well, if it doesn't force me to wipe my old home partition I'll give it a shot
[04:55] <robotgeek> Barbelos: cool
[04:55] <Barbelos> robotgeek: Espresso is included on the kubuntu live as well as the ubuntu one, right?
[05:00] <robotgeek> Barbelos: yup
[05:01] <Barbelos> Will be sure to report any problems then, I understand it needs a bit of testing. Well, if I can burn it to a bootable CD this time that is
[05:02] <robotgeek> _neoncode: can you answer in here :)
[05:03] <_neoncode> robotgeek: I don't know if kubuntu expresso works. I tryed ubuntuu
[05:03] <robotgeek> kk
[05:08] <ep> he there lurkers
[05:08] <ep> *hey
[05:09] <ep> mistell
[05:09] <Barbelos> I think you need to do better than that to wake the lurkers
[05:10] <Barbelos> Only 7 hours until the iso is downloaded, might as well go to bed
[05:10] <Ank_186> years ago I set up an email account on Netscape's free server. Now when I try to access it I get a Network Security - Konqueror pop up with an option to "send unencripted" or cancel. Does anyone know if there's some kind of allergy between the two systems?
[05:11] <Ank_186> It keeps popping up and I never get through
[05:12] <Barbelos> Ank_186: Only guessing, but I suppose Netscape never updated their servers to use modern security, KDE will warn you about sending things unencrypted
[05:13] <Barbelos> Ank_186: Unless you tell the KDE apps to stop warning you, I think that's an option too
[05:13] <Ank_186> yes but the warning is incessant - I never connect
[05:13] <Barbelos> That is strange
[05:13] <Ank_186> haven't tried that
[05:23] <fabioFx> exit
[05:25] <xwolf-> !mysql
[05:25] <ubotu> Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[05:26] <Dr_Willis> Aha - thats what that "LAMP" option ment on that dapper install cd.. :P
[05:47] <bleaked> question..if one desires a kde 3.5 environment, with the new amarok 1.4 beta WTIH the new xine engine..and i will be installing fresh (moving from other distro) is it advised to install from a dapper testing cd, or from the stable release and use pinning to obtain those apps?
[05:47] <crimsun> your best bet is probably using breezy and adding the kubuntu.org repos
[05:47] <robotgeek> bleaked: you can get the kde with breezy even
[05:48] <robotgeek> bleaked: and the rest might work if you use a better taglib, i think
[05:48] <bleaked> well..i wouldn't mind running a dapper system
[05:49] <bleaked> however, i was updating a fresh breezy install to dapper last weekend, and i could not get sound to work for the life of me.  worked in breezy, and debian stable and unstable..common sound card..idk....
[05:50] <neny> mp3
[05:50] <crimsun> bleaked: we can address the sound issues after you decide how you're going to install KDE 3.5/Amarok 1.4beta/etc.
[05:50] <xwolf-> If you want MySQL to start automatically when you boot your
[05:50] <xwolf->      machine, you can copy `support-files/mysql.server' to the location
[05:50] <xwolf->      where your system has its startup files.
[05:51] <xwolf-> where is it on kub?? :>
[05:51] <robotgeek> !lamp
[05:51] <ubotu> Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[05:52] <xwolf-> i downloaded a tarball from mysql.com.... cause mysql-server package was buggy
[05:53] <robotgeek> xwolf-: did you compile it already?
[05:53] <bleaked> crimsun. well, you probably cannot answer this, but does a pure dapper install have a decent track record to sound out of the box on a common basic sound card?
[05:54] <crimsun> bleaked: yes, it does. (And yes, I can answer that, because I do a lot of audio stuff for Ubuntu.)
[05:55] <xwolf-> robotgeek it doesnt need to be compiled
[05:55] <xwolf-> it's ok, i think ;P
[05:55] <robotgeek> xwolf-: hmm, okay. your best bet would be "update-rc.d"
[05:56] <xwolf-> i just want it to run on startup
[05:57] <robotgeek> xwolf-: yes, man update-rc.d will help
[05:58] <bleaked> crimsun. ok..well, not to undermine your intelligence or anything, i just didn't want to assume, or ask you an unreasonable, vague, question.  but thank you for your generous help and advice. :D
[05:58] <_hupp3l> what is the command to search for a channel?
[05:58] <crimsun> bleaked: np
[05:58] <bleaked> _hupp3l. /list?
[05:59] <_hupp3l> ok but then i get thousands of channels
[05:59] <_hupp3l> i know a word in the channels name how can i search for it or cabt u?
[05:59] <xwolf-> /list *search*
[05:59] <neny> really
[05:59] <_hupp3l> cant
[05:59] <_hupp3l> o ok
[05:59] <_hupp3l> cool thank you
[06:00] <bimberi> _hupp3l: /msg chanserv list #*word*
[06:00] <xwolf-> robotgeek that's too much for a newbie me O_O
[06:02] <xwolf-> robotgeek well, in /etc/rc1.d i have a K91apache2 thingie
[06:02] <xwolf-> should i copy mysql.server's thingie to that folder?
[06:03] <robotgeek> xwolf-: or you can add it to kubuntu's autostart ?
[06:03] <xwolf-> yes, that's all i want
[06:03] <xwolf-> no matter how.
[06:05] <robotgeek> xwolf-: http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/partitions-booting.html#id2593669
[06:05] <xwolf-> i am thinking of something like 'update-rc.d mysql defaults'
[06:06] <xwolf-> i think i got it.
[06:06] <xwolf-> from update-rc.d itself ><
[06:07] <gleesond> can anyone tell me where the konqueror files are installed so I can install flash?
[06:09] <crimsun> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[06:09] <robotgeek> gleesond: you could just install flash, and konqueror will pick it up on reboot / rescan plugins
[06:19] <regeya> everytime you reboot after a minor software install/update, god kills a kitten.
[06:19] <regeya> please, think of the kittens.
[06:19] <crimsun> I never liked kittens anyway.
[06:20] <regeya> everytime you reboot after a minor software install/update, god kills an ubuntu developer.
[06:20] <regeya> please, think of the devs.
[06:21] <crimsun> I never planned to live long anyhow.
[06:21] <regeya> I take it you support rebooting an ubuntu box after moving the mouse, then, eh?
[06:22] <crimsun> why would you think that? I simply said I don't like kittens, and I don't plan to live long. =)
[06:22] <regeya> it was implied, but apparently you're a loonie.
[06:22] <regeya> :>
[06:22] <crimsun> duh =)
[06:22] <regeya> heh
[06:26] <neny> :)
[06:32] <_joel> guys. maybe i'm missing something. but in my text editor i can't save to /etc/fstab cuz i don't have permission?? and i can't use root.. what do i do?
[06:47] <vinboy> how to I make firefox to open all the http address referred from other applications, instead of using konqueror?
[06:48] <robotgeek> vinboy: basically, you are asking "how do i set the default browser to be FIrefox"?
[06:48] <vinboy> robotgeek: yup
[06:49] <robotgeek> vinboy: K-Menu -> System Settings -> User Account -> Default Application
[06:49] <Death_Wish> hey i got a question is there a way to have both kde and gnome?
[06:49] <robotgeek> Death_Wish: sure, you can have both
[06:50] <Death_Wish> like at the installation process
[06:50] <robotgeek> Death_Wish: nope, but you can install gnome later
[06:50] <Death_Wish> i use gentoo but i want to try this cause i heard alot about it
[06:50] <Death_Wish> and what to see how it is
[06:51] <vinboy> robotgeek: got it , thanks :D
[06:53] <robotgeek> where has the "Show Desktop" shortcut gone
[07:00] <_jonathan> I've been thinking about this new version coming out...how exactly do I upgrade to it again?
[07:01] <_jonathan> is there more than just adding the reps and apt-get dist upgrade?
[07:03] <robotgeek> _jonathan: just make sure you have kubuntu-desktop installed before you do
[07:03] <_jonathan> i do have that
[07:03] <_jonathan> but is it that simple honestly
[07:03] <robotgeek> _jonathan: yup
[07:03] <_jonathan> i just got things like i wanted i am just fearful of messing them up
[07:03] <robotgeek> _jonathan: don't upgrade if you are happy ;)
[07:04] <_jonathan> lol
[07:04] <robotgeek> golden rule: don't fix what ain't broke
[07:04] <_jonathan> this is true
[07:04] <_jonathan> i would just like some of the updated apps
[07:05] <robotgeek> _jonathan: heh, always a struggle
[07:05] <_jonathan> and I know it sounds dumb but I've never upgraded distros like that and I'd like to see how it turns out
[07:07] <robotgeek> _jonathan: no, i like to upgrade all the time
[07:08] <_jonathan> lol
[07:08] <_jonathan> i might this weekend then
[07:09] <_jonathan> maybe you can help me with something else
[07:09] <_jonathan> I have a few thousand mp3's
[07:09] <_jonathan> and with windows i was able to browse them with a mutli column view
[07:10] <_jonathan> kde has that kinda but not as i guess simple
[07:10] <_jonathan> do you have any suggestions?
[07:10] <robotgeek> _jonathan: open up konqueror, and then View -> View Mode -> Multicolumn
[07:10] <robotgeek> or whatever view you like :)
[07:10] <_jonathan> i tried that
[07:11] <_jonathan> but it wasn't the same...
[07:11] <_jonathan> wish i could be more specific
[07:12] <_jonathan> for that one thing i enjoyed explorer's view...everything else I'm thrilled with konqueror
[07:12] <robotgeek> _jonathan: ah, the left pane
[07:12] <LeeJunFan_> _jonathan: install krusader
[07:12] <robotgeek> _jonathan: you might want to try out krusadaer
[07:12] <_jonathan> ok
[07:13] <LeeJunFan_> Answers that question, I always wondered if someone somewhere at this exact moment could be typing the same thing as me.
[07:14] <robotgeek> LeeJunFan_: heh
[07:21] <ubuntu> FreshWater is back surfing with the live version of kubuntu
[07:21] <FreshWater> eat FreshWater
[07:21] <taloschen> Hi, whick folder does apt-get install packages in by default?
[07:22] <robotgeek> taloschen: dpkg -L packagename
[07:43] <bleaked> could someone please explain the 'backports' repos?
[07:43] <robotgeek> bleaked: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[07:44] <bleaked> ah, yes, thank you sir
[07:47] <rohan> Riddell: ping
[07:47] <bleaked> robotgeek. ok, so do they not apply to a dapper system?
[07:47] <robotgeek> bleaked: yup, nothing to be backported from
[07:48] <rohan> what app do you want to be backported for dapper, bleaked ?
[07:48] <bleaked> robotgeek. ok, thought so.  the way the comment is worded on the sources.list made me think it was similar to the 'experimental' tree on debian..which doesn't make sense by the name..so i thought i would ask anyway.
[07:49] <bleaked> especially because in the example the repo: "dapper-backports" is listed..
[07:49] <bleaked> # deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[07:52] <rohan> anyone on kde 3.5.2 for ubuntu notice this ?
[07:52] <rohan> http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=124807
[07:57] <LeeJunFan> argh, will linux ever be able to do something so simple as to format a USB floppy in any way other than dd'ing /dev/zero to an image file and running mkfs on the image?
[07:57] <LeeJunFan> That's not exactly newbie friendly.
[07:57] <rohan> and you use kubuntu, LeeJunFan ?
[07:58] <rohan> i am sure some distro can do it
[07:58] <robotgeek> LeeJunFan: qparted!
[07:58] <LeeJunFan> rohan: it's a limitation of fdformat I believe.
[07:58] <rohan> LeeJunFan: ah, ok ...
[07:59] <rohan> robotgeek: please please no qtparted .. gparted :| qtparted trashed my hdd twice, and i have heard similar stories
[08:01] <sampan> anyone know why amarok would suddenly stop showing my media files in the collection panel?  even if i rescan the folders (on an external usb drive), it says 1469 files but the panel is utterly blank
[08:01] <LeeJunFan> parted needs to be run as root anyway, so it's still a kludge
[08:02] <LeeJunFan> are you sure you are viewing the "entire collection"? Click playlists on left tab -> smart playlists -> collection -> double click "All Collection"
[08:02] <rohan> LeeJunFan: gparted / qtparted modify the disk, so ofcourse they need root
[08:03] <LeeJunFan> rohan: I know, I'm just saying it's not feasible for general floppy management.
[08:03] <sampan> leejunfan  it shows playlists in there, but when i doubleclick on "all collection" -- it shows nothing
[08:04] <sampan> if i click on the "collection" (far left side) tab, it says 1469 Tracks, but it's blank
[08:04] <LeeJunFan> sampan: do you have anything typed in the "search" field at the top?
[08:04] <sampan> nope
[08:05] <LeeJunFan> sampan: I dunno, haven't seen that problem in the year or so I've been using amarok.
[08:05] <sampan> i can go to actions -- play media and select files manually to play
[08:05] <sampan> so it can play them
[08:05] <sampan> but ... very odd
[08:07] <LeeJunFan> sampan: perhaps somethign is fubar in amarok's config files. Might be worth removing them. Probably ~/.kde/share/apps/amarok and or ./.kde/share/config/amarokrc
[08:07] <sampan> k, i'll try that and see
[08:07] <LeeJunFan> sampan: if you do that close amarok first.
[08:07] <sampan> yeah, for sure
[08:07] <LeeJunFan> sampan: and you'll have to reconfigure it all.
[08:08] <sampan> no biggy
[08:08] <sampan> (assuming it works, of course)
[08:08] <sampan> :D
[08:09] <LeeJunFan> Well, since I have to get up in 4.5hrs I better get to sleep. gnight.
[08:10] <sampan> night :)
[08:15] <sampan> deleting all the files in the ~/.kde/share/apps/amarok and restarting did fix it -- phew -- thanks leejunfan
[08:15] <sampan> (even if you're asleep and can't read that)
[08:24] <eightiesk> !gaim2.0
[08:24] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, eightiesk
[08:24] <eightiesk> !gaim
[08:24] <ubotu> rumour has it, gaim is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GaimHowto/
[08:24] <eightiesk> !gaimbeta
[08:24] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, eightiesk
[08:24] <eightiesk> how do i install gaim beta 3?
[08:26] <robotgeek> eightiesk: gaim beta 3? i tht they were still shooting for v 2.0
[08:26] <eightiesk> no gaim2.0 beta3
[08:26] <robotgeek> ah okay, no clue
[08:27] <eightiesk> sudo ./configure --enable-gnutls=yes
[08:28] <eightiesk> instead of ./configure
[08:28] <eightiesk> incase ne 1 else trys.
[08:29] <rohan> dont use sudo for ./configure, eightiesk
[08:29] <eightiesk> y ?
[08:29] <rohan> because its not need
[08:29] <rohan> only make install needs sudo
[08:30] <eightiesk> well it doesn't hurt.
[08:30] <robotgeek> eightiesk: no, it gives wrong permissions to files
[08:31] <eightiesk> k
[08:31] <eightiesk> is adept a kubuntu only thing?
[08:32] <robotgeek> eightiesk: you can install it on ubuntu too
[08:32] <eightiesk> ive looked all over 2 add it to my debian.
[08:32] <robotgeek> eightiesk: i think it is in upsteam, not sure
[08:33] <eightiesk> ic
[08:33] <eightiesk> i know i can't get katupult to work on debian
[08:33] <bleaked> hello, in the /etc/hdparm.conf file..one can run the hdparm command straight up by putting the command in the command_line bracket...if i wanted to run multiple commands, do i add another command_line bracket, go to the next line, or add an && and then the command?
[08:34] <rohan> what do you want to do, bleaked ?
[08:44] <eightiesk> i do as the compile for gaim says on the wiki of kubuntu ...
[08:44] <Steven_M> hi all
[08:44] <eightiesk> but i get error http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/639396
[08:45] <paulmer2003> How do I setup /etc/network/interfaces to use DHCP for eth0
[08:45] <paulmer2003> If I do 'dhclient' as root it works
[08:46] <robotgeek> paulmer2003: just add "auto eth0" to your /etc/network/interfaces
[08:46] <Steven_M> what version of kopete do include in kde 3.5.2?
[08:46] <paulmer2003> I currently have 'iface eth0 dhcp' it dosent work
[08:46] <paulmer2003> Before I had ifcae eth0 inet dhcp
[08:46] <paulmer2003> thanks robotgeek
[08:46] <paulmer2003> i got so pissed with this crap
[08:46] <paulmer2003> i was going to add dhclient to /etc/inittab
[08:46] <paulmer2003> lo
[08:46] <paulmer2003> lol
[08:46] <robotgeek> !enter
[08:46] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[08:46] <eightiesk> lol
[08:47] <robotgeek> paulmer2003: do keep the lines iface etho dhcp in there
[08:47] <eightiesk> !compilegaim
[08:47] <ubotu> eightiesk: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:47] <paulmer2003> Wait... So what?\
[08:47] <Steven_M> got to go
[08:47] <paulmer2003> robotgeek so I need 'auto eth0' and what else?
[08:48] <robotgeek> paulmer2003: 'iface eth0 dhcp' and 'auto eth0'
[08:48] <paulmer2003> iface first?
[08:48] <robotgeek> paulmer2003: yup
[08:49] <paulmer2003> hookat
[08:49] <paulmer2003> hookay
[08:56] <gleesond> after I upgraded to dapper my sound card stoped working... how can I fix it
[08:56] <gleesond> ?
[09:03] <nalioth> gleesond: join #ubuntu+1 for dapper help
[09:04] <vinboy> hi
[09:04] <vinboy> anyone here use mail checker?
[09:10] <nrdb> I want to do setup a VoIP from IP to IP how cat anyoue point me in the right direction?
[09:30] <bleaked> are the amarok beta sources no long available?
[09:31] <bleaked> nrdb. something like skype would be the easiest way..at least that i know of.
[09:38] <nrdb> bleaked: thanks I will look into it.
[09:49] <gix> bun giorno
[09:50] <gix> *buon
[09:50] <gix> c'e' nessuno?
[09:51] <gix> i've a problem
[09:51] <gix> there is anyone?
[09:51] <kosh> gix: what is the problem?
[09:52] <gix> Failed to fetch http://it.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-backports/multiverse/source/Sources.gz  302 Found
[09:52] <gix> this is message error
[09:52] <gix> when i make
[09:52] <gix> apt-get update
[09:52] <gix> :(
[09:53] <kosh> it just means that the archive you tried to access does not have dapper backports for source multiverse
[09:53] <kosh> you can very likely just ignore it
[09:53] <gix> uhm
[09:53] <gix> but all my archive
[09:53] <gix> are like it
[09:53] <gix> :(
[09:53] <kosh> all of your archives say that?
[09:53] <gix> yes
[09:53] <kosh> hmm
[09:53] <kosh> maybe the archive is broken
[09:54] <kosh> can you try doing sudo apt-get update    and see what it does?
[09:54] <gix> all the archive from http://it.archive.ubuntu...
[09:54] <gix> i try now
[09:54] <gix> and the message ise the same
[09:54] <gix> *is the
[09:55] <gix> (sorry for may bad english)
[09:55] <gix> *my
[09:55] <gix> ^_^
[09:56] <kosh> http://gaming.ngi.it/mirror_maintenance/
[09:56] <kosh> that is what the server is saying
[09:56] <kosh> so it looks like it is down right now for maintenance
[09:56] <kosh> so don't worry about it and it sould work again later
[09:57] <kosh> if you need it to work right this second you could change to some different archives however I don't know what other archives would be the best for you to use
[09:57] <Hobbsee_> !repos
[09:57] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[09:57] <Hobbsee_> gb ones work, too
[09:57] <Hobbsee> die clone, die!
[09:58] <gix> ok
[09:58] <gix> is the server
[09:58] <gix> ^^
[09:58] <gix> thanks
[09:58] <gix> ..
[09:58] <gix> you tell me also why amarok
[09:59] <gix> not sound?
[09:59] <gix> i have helix engine
[09:59] <gix> i try whit alsa
[09:59] <gix> oss
[09:59] <gix> and every i found in settings
[09:59] <gix> but nothing
[10:01] <kosh> can you play any sound at all from any app?
[10:01] <gix> yes
[10:01] <gix> vlc
[10:01] <gix> xmms
[10:02] <kosh> what I would do is use the xine engine for amarok
[10:02] <gix> nothing
[10:03] <kosh> what kind of sound card do you have?
[10:03] <gix> integrated
[10:03] <gix> ac98
[10:04] <kosh> my first guess is that some other audio program has the audio locked
[10:04] <gix> whit suse it work ok
[10:04] <kosh> so xine can't access it
[10:04] <gix> where i look if the sound is blocked?
[10:05] <kosh> what does sudo lsof /dev/dsp say?
[10:05] <bleaked> ok, i feel silly asking this, but if one wants to patch a script, and has both teh script and a diff file..how does one patch it? (the patch man page is confusing)
[10:06] <gix> lsof: status error on say: No such file or directory
[10:06] <gix> :S
[10:07] <kosh> ah no lsof is installed
[10:07] <gix> ok
[10:07] <gix> but i try later
[10:07] <gix> if the repository is not avaiable
[10:08] <gix> uhm
[10:08] <gix> in synaptic is installed
[10:08] <gix> but it not work
[10:08] <gix> ?
[10:09] <kosh> hmm I am not sure what the problem is and diagnosing it might take a while
[10:09] <kosh> if you just right click on an audio file in kde and tell it to open it with kaboodle will it play?
[10:09] <gix> only with xmms
[10:10] <kosh> that seems really strange
[10:10] <gix> yes
[10:11] <gix> i've suse
[10:11] <gix> and it work fine
[10:11] <gix> with the same settings
[10:12] <kosh> I don't know, I have not seen sound issues in about about 7 years or so
[10:14] <gix> ok
[10:14] <gix> i'm go to work
[10:14] <gix> thank kosh
[10:14] <gix> ^^
[10:14] <gix> see you
[10:19] <RaRe> how do i chmod a folder, and all subfolders and files under it?
[10:20] <Tm_T> RaRe: man chmod
[10:20] <Tm_T> RaRe: you'll find -R from there
[10:26] <RaRe> hmm thanx Tm_T .
[10:29] <RaRe> !permissions
[10:29] <ubotu> permissions are explained here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FilePermissions  - The easiest way to work with permissions is to sudo chmod {options} filename.  Also, try "man chmod", "man chown", and "man chgrp" from the console.
[10:34] <mendred> Tm_T: Good afternoon
[10:38] <Tm_T> mendred: yay!
[10:56] <Tallia1Kubuntu> hi guys, fever is taking me piece by piece -__-
[10:56] <XVampireX> :O
[10:56] <XVampireX> Fever is bad
[10:57] <DocTomoe>  I upgraded to dapper and now have problems with my sound settings - actually, I seem to have some sound working, nontheless it is a) much to low, and b) mp3 playback seems to play random frequencies. any suggestions what to do?
[10:57] <Tallia1Kubuntu> can i ask you something? how can i get the icons in a layout in which they are not so big, and are similar to the element in the taskbar? (snapshot in a sec)
[10:57] <XVampireX> By the way people, why does it take so long to load up applications in linux?
[10:57] <Tm_T> Tallia1Kubuntu: Kcontrol has icon settings
[10:57] <Tallia1Kubuntu> http://tallia1.myftp.org/shared-folder/snapshot.png
[10:57] <DocTomoe> XVampireX: how about getting a more recent machine? ;)
[10:58] <XVampireX> DocTomoe: I'm speaking relatively.
[10:58] <Tallia1Kubuntu> you see the "TEMP" Kwrite, nvu,  ecc ecc?
[10:58] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i want them as in the taskbar..
[10:58] <Tm_T> DocTomoe: well, you're using dapper, so you're supposed to know what you're doing
[10:58] <Tallia1Kubuntu> is it possible?
[10:58] <XVampireX> With the same machine I could use windows and applications don't take 3-5 seconds to load up but they mostly load up instantly.
[10:58] <XVampireX> I'm not going to use windows so don't tell me use windows then
[10:59] <XVampireX> It's just to know WHY.
[10:59] <DocTomoe> Tm_T: Actually, I do know what I am doing. However, this is just some of the random problems that are popping up here and there. maybe someone else has solved it or a solution.
[10:59] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ?
[10:59] <Tm_T> DocTomoe: ok then
[10:59] <Tm_T> !dapper
[10:59] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[10:59] <Tm_T> Tallia1Kubuntu: hmm
[11:00] <XVampireX> Applications run faster when they have loaded but not before they load
[11:00] <DocTomoe> XVampireX: Sorry, That's not on my system. or was, before I dumped windows
[11:01] <Tm_T> Tallia1Kubuntu: no, you can't
[11:01] <Tallia1Kubuntu> :(
[11:01] <XVampireX> Oh well
[11:01] <Tallia1Kubuntu> isn't there a kde extension?
[11:01] <Tm_T> Tallia1Kubuntu: without poking settings files and/or sources
[11:02] <Tm_T> Tallia1Kubuntu: http://www.canllaith.org/hacks.html
[11:02] <Tallia1Kubuntu> In which section of kde-apps should i search for a mode?
[11:02] <Tallia1Kubuntu> :)
[11:02] <Tm_T> Tallia1Kubuntu: prolly there isn't one
[11:05] <gtradigo> hi, anyone from Italy out there?
[11:05] <cfraz89> hi
[11:05] <cfraz89> is there a way to install flight 6 from the livecd?
[11:07] <cfraz89> i heard of something called espresso
[11:07] <cfraz89> because i am out of blank cd's :(
[11:07] <Tallia1Kubuntu> gtradigo: i am
[11:07] <gtradigo> aa1975
[11:08] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ? 1983
[11:08] <gtradigo> sorry... wrong window
[11:08] <Tallia1Kubuntu> con un buon mal di testa ^_^
[11:08] <gtradigo> :) :)
[11:08] <gtradigo> volevo chiederti se stai avendo anche tu problemi con Adept
[11:09] <Death_Wish> i have a question why does my system hang on start hotplug thingy
[11:11] <Death_Wish> n e 1 there?
[11:22] <cfraz89> yeah
[11:22] <cfraz89> i am out of blank cds
[11:22] <cfraz89> and have a copy of kubuntu flight 6 live cd
[11:22] <cfraz89> i was wondering if kubintu espresso is up to the task of installing it?
[11:28] <bh> Hello, how do I get Macromedia Flash working in my amd64 system ?
[11:34] <bleaked> so kubuntu comes with all of these xorg driver packages..if one is just using the proprietary nvidia driver..can one remove the excess packages?  and if so, is there a meta package that will remove all that are not needed?
[11:35] <bleaked> or does it not take up enough space to matter?
[11:35] <Tm_T> bleaked: latter one
[11:35] <Tm_T> if you need highly optimized, you are using wrong distro anyway :)
[11:36] <Tm_T> gerard: ...and you won't get it if you don't tell what is it
[11:36] <gerard> so its net-not-working
[11:36] <gerard> ^_^
[11:36] <Tm_T> gerard: yes?
[11:36] <gerard> I also have it on a HP and it works fine there
[11:36] <Tm_T> hmm
[11:36] <gerard> so i'm a bit lost
[11:37] <Tm_T> gerard: how network doesn't work in thinkpad?
[11:37] <Tm_T> gerard: and what kind of network?
[11:37] <bleaked> Tm_T. highly optimized no, clean, slim desktop, yes.
[11:37] <gerard> ok, if I try to configure either the eth0 or 1 via the gui it crashes
[11:37] <gerard> ethernet and wifi
[11:38] <bleaked> i would also like to cut out some of these kde apps, but they are dependent on the kubuntu-desktop package..
[11:38] <Tm_T> gerard: and what does ifconfig return?
[11:38] <bleaked> what would i need to just install kde-base or something?
[11:38] <gerard> nothing
[11:38] <Tm_T> bleaked: so remove kubuntu-desktop package too
[11:38] <Tm_T> gerard: nothing at all?
[11:38] <Tm_T> bleaked: it's just metapackage containing nothing
[11:39] <bleaked> Tm_T. ok, so it wont take a bunch of stuff with it?
[11:39] <gerard> yup, and when I do ifconfig all i do see it all
[11:39] <Tm_T> bleaked: no
[11:39] <gerard> then I did ifconfig eth1 up
[11:39] <gerard> which is ok as well
[11:39] <Tm_T> gerard: and problem is...
[11:39] <gerard> when I then check with ifconfig i see eth1 up but i cant ping anything or see my local network
[11:40] <gerard> if I restart i see at startup that basic network has failed
[11:40] <gerard> I only have this problem on the thinkpad
[11:40] <gerard> and only with flight 6
[11:40] <gerard> 5.10 works fine
[11:41] <Tm_T> gerard: ok, show me the output of ifconfig in every state + your /etc/network/interfaces
[11:41] <Tm_T> gerard: use kubuntu.pastebin,com
[11:41] <bleaked> i must say..dapper is far cleaner, far more stable, and actually works...well...as compared to debian unstable.
[11:41] <bleaked> thank you all.
[11:41] <Tm_T> heh
[11:41] <gerard> erm,
[11:42] <gerard> Tm_T: how?
[11:42] <gerard> Tm_T: i dont have networking on that machine remember
[11:42] <Tm_T> gerard: then read&write -copy it
[11:43] <Tm_T> without those information, it's really hard to know what's going on in your system
[11:43] <gerard> ok, here we go
[11:43] <Tm_T> :)
[11:43] <mart> bleaked: nah, you just haven't been bitten yet :)
[11:43] <bleaked> perhaps
[11:44] <Tm_T> bleaked: dapper was fun ~5 months ago, now it's too stable ;(
[11:44] <gerard> eth1 link encap:Ethernet HWaddr (the address)
[11:44] <bleaked> idk..tonight i installed from a testing 5 disc
[11:44] <Tm_T> gerard: kubuntu,pastebin.com thanks ;)
[11:44] <bleaked> literally everything, including my ipod, soundcard, and gfx worked out of box.
[11:44] <Tm_T> bleaked: sounds bad
[11:44] <bleaked> i've updated everything and still not a flaw.
[11:45] <bleaked> :D
[11:45] <Tm_T> bleaked: nothing to fix? nothing to tweak? nightmare...
[11:45] <bleaked> well, i'm customizing now
[11:45] <Tm_T> =)
[11:45] <bleaked> by default, kde is hideous
[11:45] <bleaked> but one can make it sexy in a few hours
[11:46] <Tm_T> true
[11:48] <Tm_T> bleaked: http://www.tm-travolta.net/shots/current.png
[11:49] <gerard> Tm_T: can you read this
[11:49] <gerard> http://www.eccosys.net/webcam/
[11:49] <gerard> ^_^
[11:50] <Tm_T> whoa =)
[11:50] <gerard> old skool
[11:51] <Tm_T> looks like it's your interfaces file we need to tweak
[11:51] <Tm_T> atleast I think so
[11:51] <gerard> ok, how do I go about that?
[11:51] <vge> haha, thats the best pastebin i have seen sofar, grats
[11:52] <gerard> naa, the most lazy one
[11:52] <Tm_T> gerard: well, make sure it's correct to your settings
[11:52] <Tm_T> gerard: maybe I show mine :)
[11:52] <gerard> hey wait a sec, i have a working 5.10 on my other drive
[11:52] <gerard> i could copy it over right?
[11:53] <gerard> or compare it to the config on this machine?
[11:53] <Tm_T> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/639566
[11:53] <Tm_T> gerard: yes you can
[11:53] <Tm_T> gerard: but first move your current to somewhere safe
[11:54] <gerard> ok, what should I be looking at?
[11:55] <Tm_T> skip lo interface, look carefully your eth0 things
[11:55] <Tm_T> etc
[11:55] <gerard> I know but where is that file located
[11:55] <Tm_T> /etc/network/interfaces
[11:56] <gerard> cheers
[11:57] <gerard> btw, if you like a laugh, the cam is still pointed at my screen while i do this:P
[11:57] <Tm_T> =)
[11:57] <Tm_T> good
[11:57] <bleaked> Tm_T. ah nice..
[11:57] <bleaked> so you like kopete
[11:58] <bleaked> i'm not sure if i like it personally.
[11:58] <Tm_T> bleaked: as Kopete (junior)devel, yes =)
[11:58] <gerard> kopete is very cool but i use gaim as it does more stuff
[11:58] <Tm_T> bleaked: if you haven't used 0.12 ...
[11:58] <Tm_T> gerard: like?
[11:58] <vinboy> does kopete support webcam?
[11:58] <Tm_T> vinboy: does
[11:58] <bleaked> here, my desktop is not very cool..but keep in mind it's only 3 hours old.. http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/5190/bleaked7ej.png
[11:59] <Tm_T> bleaked: aah, amaroK <3
[11:59] <Tm_T> ...other than that, it's pretty basic still
[11:59] <bleaked> yea
[11:59] <bleaked> well i've been customizing
[11:59] <gerard> Tm_T: is that all you have in your interfaces file? mine looks very different
[11:59] <bleaked> talking
[11:59] <Tm_T> bleaked: desktop of mine can't be achieved without coding ;)
[11:59] <bleaked> getting amarok 1.4 in all it's glory
[11:59] <Tm_T> gerard: yes, that's all of it
[11:59] <vinboy> Tm_T: ic...
[12:00] <Tm_T> gerard: you can try "networkmanager" if it helps in your problem
[12:01] <vinboy> anyone here use mail checker/notifier?
[12:02] <kameron> just booting the install cd, on a p2 box with little ram, i don't recal how much.. it says "Kernel panic - not syncing: no init found. Try passing init= option to the kernel." what should i try here?
[12:02] <Tm_T> gerard: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperNetworkManager
[12:03] <gerard> Tm_T: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/639576
[12:05] <vinboy> Tm_T: do you use mail checker/notifier?
[12:06] <gerard> ok, i changed it to look just like my hp laptop one
[12:06] <gerard> rebooting now
[12:07] <gerard> yeah, starting basic networking OK
[12:07] <gerard> so that looks a lot better
[12:08] <gerard> anyone else here played with 6.06 yet?
[12:08] <daffy_> Flight 6 here
[12:09] <Tallia1Kubuntu> is there a way to play a video on the desktop of kde?
[12:09] <gerard> Tallia1Kubuntu: what kind of video?
[12:09] <visik7> Tallia1Kubuntu: root tail + mplayer
[12:09] <Tallia1Kubuntu> root tail?
[12:10] <gerard> i'm a big VLC fan
[12:10] <gerard> plays most of my stuf, only use mplayer for windows media
[12:10] <Tm_T> vinboy: no
[12:11] <Tm_T> gerard: :o
[12:11] <Tm_T> gerard: eth1 is normal ethernet and 0 is wifi?
[12:11] <gerard> yes
[12:11] <gerard> so i just changed it around
[12:11] <Tm_T> gerard: did you try networkmanager?
[12:12] <gerard> as eth0 config was not working
[12:12] <gerard> not yet
[12:12] <Tm_T> ok, does it work now better?
[12:12] <gerard> btw, still not working but at least it does not complain at startup
[12:12] <Tm_T> hehe
[12:12] <Tm_T> well, you doesn't seem to have dhcp in your config
[12:13] <Tm_T> hmm, you do :o
[12:13] <gerard> ok, just tried a ping#
[12:13] <gerard> to a number on our network
[12:13] <Tm_T> and?
[12:13] <gerard> and i get "network is unreacable"
[12:13] <Tm_T> meh
[12:13] <gerard> so weird
[12:13] <Tm_T> well oh well
[12:14] <vinboy> gerard: you cannot ping local network?
[12:14] <gerard> nope
[12:14] <gerard> nothing
[12:14] <vinboy> how about the gateway?
[12:14] <gerard> let me try
[12:14] <vinboy> did u ping ur gateway?
[12:14] <vinboy> k
[12:14] <gerard> connect: Network unreachable
[12:15] <vinboy> hmmm
[12:15] <Tm_T> heh
[12:15] <gerard> so I cant get out of my machine
[12:15] <vinboy> lol
[12:15] <gerard> pissing me off because flight 6 is very very cool
[12:15] <vinboy> have u try some "route add default gw xx.xx.xx.xx"
[12:15] <gerard> I use it on 3 office machines an want it on my thinkpad so I can take it home
[12:15] <gerard> ah, no, will try that now
[12:16] <gerard> btw, thanks for helping you all
[12:16] <vinboy> ur welcome
[12:17] <gerard> SIOCADDRT: network is unreachable
[12:18] <Tm_T> whooo
[12:18] <Tm_T> gerard: are you sure your network chipset is supported?
[12:19] <gerard> Tm_T: well, it works 100% fine on 5.10
[12:19] <Tm_T> I've heard laptops can cause real headaches
[12:19] <gerard> I have been using Kubuntu on that machine for almost a year now
[12:19] <Tm_T> gerard: oh well, that doesn't proof anything =)
[12:19] <gerard> hahaha, that shows
[12:19] <gerard> funny thing is that during instalation it will see the network and even download stuff
[12:20] <gerard> so it should work, must be a config error
[12:20] <daffy_> gerard: just installed it a few hours ago. Oddly enough, eth0 didn't pull an IP address initially.
[12:20] <Tm_T> yup
[12:20] <Tm_T> dapper does weird things
[12:20] <gerard> ah, can I force it to pull one?
[12:20] <daffy_> Then, out of the blue, it did.
[12:20] <Tallia1Kubuntu> visik7: can you give me an hint of the command that i have to do?
[12:20] <gerard> I could do a manual config
[12:20] <visik7> Tallia1Kubuntu: install rootail and run mplayer in it
[12:21] <Tallia1Kubuntu> visik7: how to run mplayer in it?
[12:21] <daffy_> gerard:connected to a router ?
[12:22] <gerard> switch#
[12:22] <gerard> i'm at the office
[12:22] <daffy_> ahh
[12:22] <gerard> my desk looks like a computer shop ^_^
[12:23] <gerard> this weekend I' picking up an old NeXT, should look nice on my desk
[12:23] <visik7> Tallia1Kubuntu: never tried I only heard of someone that was able to do it
[12:23] <Tallia1Kubuntu> visik7: i see
[12:23] <daffy_> gerard: heh I hear ya
[12:23] <gerard> YEAH
[12:23] <gerard> YEAHYEAH YEAH
[12:23] <gerard> it fucking works
[12:23] <gerard> praise the lord
[12:24] <gerard> oh, and I did NOTHING
[12:25] <daffy_> hmmm
[12:25] <gerard> just rebooted it and it started working
[12:25] <gerard> daffy_: do you also get "could not find mine type" when using adept?
[12:26] <gerard> not to keen on the new theme they stuck in there
[12:26] <gerard> with those weird flat buttons at the top
[12:27] <daffy_> gerard: I did, then it loaded.
[12:27] <gerard> yeah, same here
[12:27] <gerard> spoke to someone on here about it yesterday, something to do with the skin having problems
[12:28] <gerard> so next on my list is getting this stupid trackpad on my hp working and the japanese input
[12:30] <daffy_> gerard: I don't recall using Adept before. Often I'll use 'sudo apt-get install fluxbox' for eg
[12:31] <vinboy> anyone run CounterStrike on linux?
[12:32] <gerard> daffy_: Thats a shame, adept is very well made.
[12:33] <daffy_> gerard:I'll give it a go.
[12:33] <mart> I normally have to resort to the command line after using adept anyway, since it doesn't provide a console when something goes wrong. :(
[12:34] <gerard> I guess I have been a very lucky user, hardly anything went wrong
[12:34] <gerard> I bought an old Thinkpad for playing with linux, I liked it so much that I sold my 3 macs
[12:34] <mart> anyone know if the debtags problem is fixed yet?
[12:35] <vinboy> how do I limit my connection speed of apt-get?
[12:35] <vinboy> coz my fren is using the internet as well
[12:35] <Pupeno> How do I subscrito to a newsgroup in KNode without fetching the huge list ?
[12:35] <mart> vinboy: you could look into iptables
[12:35] <gerard> hey guys, want to see something fun on my webcam?
[12:36] <daffy_> gerard: were the Macs using 10.3/10.4 ?
[12:36] <gerard> 10.4
[12:36] <mart> Pupeno: I think you need to fetch the entire list...
[12:36] <vinboy> mart: i dun wan to touch iptables... too much for me
[12:36] <gerard> and 10.3
[12:36] <lippel> hi. what's the proper way in [k] ubuntu to prevent a module from being loaded? pcspkr in particular.
[12:36] <mart> vinboy: think you're stuffed then.
[12:36] <Pupeno> mart: what a dumb thing to require.
[12:36] <vinboy> lol
[12:36] <gerard> daffy_: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/639576
[12:36] <gerard> ^_^
[12:36] <gerard> My girlfriend made that, it's konqi
[12:37] <mart> Pupeno: I've never found a news client where I've been able to figure out how to avoid it.
[12:37] <_ita> im so registered ... :) hi all
[12:37] <Libertus> If you know the exact name of the newsgroup, you should be able to subscribe just to it. I don't use KNode. Is it worth a look?
[12:38] <gerard> damn
[12:38] <gerard> wrong copy and paste
[12:38] <mart> Libertus: what client lets you do that?
[12:38] <gerard> I hate this stupid HP keyboard
[12:38] <Libertus> I would hope ANY news client would allow that!
[12:38] <mart> Libertus: I've never seen one.
[12:38] <daffy_> gerard: I was wonderin
[12:38] <gerard> http://www.eccosys.net/webcam/
[12:38] <gerard> there
[12:39] <mart> wth? :)
[12:39] <Libertus> Heh, of course, now I go to check, I bet none of the ones I use allow it :)
[12:39] <gerard> the keyboard layout is very different from normal keyboards, pisses me off
[12:39] <daffy_> cute
[12:39] <mornfall> mart: view->last dpkg run
[12:39] <mornfall> mart: or so
[12:39] <gerard> its made of felt ^_^
[12:39] <Libertus> Thunderbird doesn't
[12:40] <daffy_> 05:39:40 up  1:55,  3 users,  load average: 1.57, 1.48, 1.12        Running Prime95, for the next 72 hrs or so.
[12:41] <Pupeno> mart: I think I've did it by playing with the config files by hand.
[12:42] <mart> eek!
[12:43] <Libertus> Yes, config files by hand appears to be the only option with KNode to avoid downloading the newsgroup list.
[12:43] <Libertus> That's a bug
[12:43] <mart> Libertus: what number?
[12:43] <Libertus> And quite disrespectful to low-bandwidth users, for whom the newsgroups were designed
[12:44] <mart> Libertus: they were not :)
[12:44] <Libertus> Sorry. I mean, that is a fault in the software. I shall go report it or find out if one already exists.
[12:44] <Libertus> Thunderbird suffers the same.
[12:46] <mart> Sometimes Debian sucks for usability: http://rafb.net/paste/results/SK5OZ927.html
[12:47] <mart> Libertus: gawd that's old
[12:47] <Libertus> I have many usability issues with KDE. The smashing glass error sound for a start!
[12:48] <mart> Libertus: at least it's clear what that means.
[12:48] <Libertus> No it isn't! I think someone is breaking into my house :)
[12:48] <Libertus> And it is painful in headphones!
[12:49] <mart> 'tis to me.
[12:49] <mart> at least, clearer than that resolveconf message above
[12:49] <Libertus> You could always enable it. From a usability perspective, a more gentle default would be better.
[12:51] <Libertus> Your bugs may be going upstream to the package developers rather than the Ubuntu packagers
[12:52] <Libertus> I wouldn't expect the Ubuntu guys to be in a position to fix most of the bugs in Ubuntu
[12:52] <mart> Libertus: I filed it upstream too
[12:52] <Libertus> Oh :blush:
[12:53] <Libertus> I don't do much in the way of bug reporting. Too time-consuming.
[12:53] <mart> Libertus: the point was that they bugs weren't even showing, never mind being fixed
[12:53] <mart> but they're showing now.
[12:53] <mart> Libertus: great community spirity, there :(
[12:53] <Libertus> You misunderstand.
[12:53] <Libertus> I code.
[12:54] <mart> Libertus: ah, fair do.
[12:54] <Libertus> 87.6% of my day is spent staring at nonsense :)
[12:54] <Libertus> If that drops, I don't get paid hehehe
[12:54] <Libertus> I reported the breaking glass as a bug because, well, it bugged me
[12:54] <mart> Libertus: but you code for open source stuff, right?
[12:55] <Libertus> No. I code for myself. I occasionally share.
[12:55] <Libertus> Very hard to get paid for open source coding
[12:55] <simian__> how do i kill the kpilot daemon, at the moment i am resetting my computer every time and it's getting tedious
[12:55] <mart> oh, then community spirit comment stands :)
[12:55] <Libertus> Indeed!
[12:55] <Libertus> I have more time available now for community spirit, so here I am.
[12:56] <Libertus> I've negotiated a way to get paid for only 60% of my day with the nonsense.
[12:57] <Libertus> Not sure I can do much for Linux though.
[12:57] <mart> bug reports?
[12:57] <Libertus> Unlikely.
[12:57] <Libertus> I code.
[12:57] <mart> uh huh, me too.
[12:57] <Libertus> I can manage software projects quite well.
[12:58] <Libertus> I'm very good at QA. I'm a "NO!" guy.
[12:58] <mornfall> what?
[12:59] <mart> I wasn't going to ask.
[01:02] <Libertus> have you considered using a shell for newsreading?
[01:03] <Phazeman> hi all. i'm having an odd mysql problem. i didn't start the server for couple of days, but now when i need it, i try to start it and getting the next error in the syslog: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/639641 can someone please take a look ?
[01:03] <Libertus> it's kinda like a step back, but the advantage is that once you're comfortable with a shell program, it'll be the same on every Unix system you use, pretty much
[01:04] <mart> Libertus: tried nn, it was crap
[01:04] <mart> looked at gnus, but was just too much effort to configure at the time.
[01:05] <Libertus> Yeah, config is a big issue with shell apps
[01:05] <Libertus> GUI apps score there due to consistency.
[01:05] <mart> Libertus: not really, but for gnus it involves lisp scripting
[01:05] <Libertus> EEK!
[01:06] <mart> Phazeman: so is anything listening on port 3306?
[01:06] <Libertus> Yeah, its complaining about another server on the same port
[01:06] <Phazeman> mart: netstat | grep 3306 gives nothing
[01:06] <Libertus> netstat -l
[01:06] <mart> Phazeman: you're running that as root, I gues?
[01:06] <Libertus> List all listening ports?
[01:07] <Phazeman> Libertus: yes it gives nothing
[01:07] <Phazeman> mart: off cours it's with sudo
[01:07] <Libertus> Hmmm...
[01:07] <Phazeman> sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start
[01:07] <Libertus> "Cannot assign requested address"
[01:08] <Phazeman> yeah thats what ake me so interested... coz nothing is on that port
[01:08] <Libertus> Has your host IP address changed recently?
[01:08] <Phazeman> no it's on dhcp fmo the router
[01:08] <Phazeman> s/fmo/from
[01:08] <Libertus> Is this mysql server intended to serve localhost only, or a wider network?
[01:08] <Phazeman> localhost
[01:09] <david_> have you changed the config much from defualt?
[01:09] <Libertus> OK, so the config should not be setting any other IP address.
[01:09] <Phazeman> didn't touvh it
[01:09] <Phazeman> david_: i didn't touch the config at all
[01:09] <Phazeman> but i think i know what happened
[01:09] <Phazeman> gimme a minute
[01:09] <david_> see...I fixed it..go me!
[01:09] <lillith> how do I get kpilot to copy .doc files from a palmOS device?
[01:10] <lillith> the only thing it does for me is to back .pbd and .prc files
[01:10] <lillith> backup
[01:10] <Libertus> Phazeman: can you paste the setting 'bind-address' from your /etc/mysql/my.cnf please?
[01:10] <Phazeman> -nop nothing helps...
[01:11] <Phazeman> Libertus: sec
[01:11] <gerard_> tadaaa
[01:11] <gerard_> damn, need to change my nick
[01:11] <Phazeman> bind-address            = 127.0.0.1
[01:11] <Libertus> Correct
[01:11] <Libertus> Hmmm...
[01:11] <puckman> thats better
[01:11] <david_> check lo is up
[01:11] <Phazeman> david_: it is
[01:11] <david_> ok
[01:11] <Libertus> Sanity check, eh david?
[01:11] <Phazeman> ifconfig shows it up
[01:11] <puckman> Tm_T: thanks for all the advise
[01:12] <puckman> Tm_T: its nice to be back on my trusty old thinkpad
[01:12] <mart> Phazeman: /etc/hosts lists localhost as the first name for 127.0.0.1?
[01:12] <Phazeman> yep
[01:12] <Tm_T> puckman: what?
[01:12] <Tm_T> it works?
[01:12] <Phazeman> that was the thing i thought about when i said i know what happened
[01:12] <puckman> Tm_T: yup!
[01:13] <mart> Phazeman: try telneting localhost 3306 :)
[01:13] <puckman> Tm_T: i was logged on as gerard when you helped me
[01:13] <Tm_T> yup
[01:13] <Tm_T> good you have it online
[01:14] <daffy_> Libertus: slrn is quite a popular newsreader.
[01:14] <Tm_T> puckman: you need now my bank account number? I can also take cash...
[01:14] <Libertus> daffy_: I think I used that years ago...
[01:14] <puckman> hahaha, I'm poor right now
[01:14] <puckman> I have some old computer hardware if you want
[01:14] <Tm_T> same here =)
[01:15] <Libertus> I definately prefer a good GUI app
[01:15] <Tm_T> ... I think I might need 8th pc... or maybe not
[01:15] <puckman> I got a sun somehwere I bought in a mad moment from ebay
[01:15] <Tm_T> =)
[01:15] <puckman> one of those "I always wanted to play with one" moments
[01:15] <puckman> and then it landed on a shelf
[01:16] <Tm_T> hey, if you can irc with it, it's useful
[01:16] <puckman> everything I have does irc
[01:16] <daffy_> Libertus: me too. Pan is pretty good for day to day use.
[01:16] <mart> Tm_T: how about this for a geek toy? http://www.iyonix.com/
[01:17] <daffy_> First time in three years I've used irc.
[01:17] <Tm_T> mart: ARM!
[01:17] <mart> yeah :)
[01:17] <Tm_T> mart: if you like to buy me one, I'm not stopping ya! =)
[01:18] <mart> huh, not before I can afford one for myselft. I bet they run really quietly.
[01:18] <Tm_T> =)
[01:18] <puckman> IRC is great, seems to be one of the few places where the amount of 12 year old trolls is limited
[01:19] <Libertus> daffy_: For my current limited news use, I'm happy with the built-in Thunderbird reader. Great thing about open source is the choice, once you decide you need more power.
[01:19] <Libertus> daffy_: Thanks for the help. It saves having to cycle 50 packages through my machine LOL
[01:20] <lillith> is there a way to convert .pbd and/or .prc files to other formats, like .doc?
[01:20] <daffy_> lol  np
[01:20] <david_> what are pdb ?
[01:21] <simian__> palm data base i think
[01:21] <mart> kpilot claims to have a generic DB viewer...
[01:21] <mart> but I've never used it
[01:21] <puckman> Kontact vs Thunderbird?
[01:21] <puckman> Any opinions?
[01:21] <mart> Kontact, any day
[01:22] <puckman> Really?
[01:22] <simian__> kontact works well for me
[01:22] <mart> absolutely
[01:22] <puckman> I never gave it a fair try as I have been using Thunderbird for ages
[01:22] <Danny> can anyone tell me how to get firefox on kubuntu?
[01:22] <puckman> Danny: use adept
[01:22] <Danny> oh
[01:22] <Danny> ty
[01:22] <daffy_> Libertus: I'm quite new to Linux/OSS, but I do like the concept of choice.
[01:22] <simian__> Danny: sudo apt-get install firefox
[01:22] <Libertus> Danny: Do you mean Firefox 1.5?
[01:22] <lillith> I need to get the .doc files that my palm has stored as .pbd on my comp as .doc files
[01:23] <Libertus> daffy_: Choice can also be bewildering and frightening, but yes, it's a good thing.
[01:24] <puckman> is it me or has the default font in kubuntu changed?
[01:24] <mart> is there a kubuntu group on last.fm?
[01:24] <mart> puckman: I think size changed - or rather DPI
[01:25] <Danny> yes
[01:26] <dipnlik> !katapult
[01:26] <ubotu> katapult is probably an application for KDE designed to provide faster access to applications, bookmarks and other items. Once you've installed it, alt+f2 ->katapult, then hit Alt+Space. When splash screen appears, type the command you want.
[01:26] <puckman> mart: thanks, good point on the last.fm if there is non we should start
[01:27] <lillith> is there something like documentstogo in ubuntu?
[01:27] <dipnlik> lillith: not that i know of. what version of DocsToGo are you using?
[01:27] <mart> http://www.last.fm/groups/?s_bio=kubuntu&stats=Search+Groups
[01:28] <lillith> dipnlik, where do I check? all I want is to get .doc files from my palm
[01:28] <mart> puckman: you guys better have good taste in music :P
[01:28] <dipnlik> lillith: you can check on the program. what pda do you have?
[01:28] <daffy_> puckman: for everyday use, was Mac 10.4 a good OS ? How about the native apps ?
[01:29] <puckman> hahaha
[01:29] <jahshua> hello
[01:29] <DexterF> hi
[01:29] <jahshua> hey peeps can anyone help me please, i have a friend who has installed kubuntu, but apparently somehow messed up with the kde/X on it..so he is wondering how to set X to use a certain windwo manager by hand ??
[01:29] <dipnlik> lillith: you're probably better saving your files in mc office format, docstogo can open native files from card since version 6
[01:29] <lillith> dipnlik, it says Tungsten|T on the cover
[01:29] <jahshua> is there something like xwmconfig ? or maybe echo "exec fluxbox" > ~/.xinitrx
[01:29] <jahshua> ?
[01:29] <DexterF> what do I have to to to make X use fglrx for 3D rendering?
[01:30] <DexterF> Xorg.0.log doesn't show any errors, still I'm on Mesa rendering
[01:30] <mart> jahshua: sure they've not just changed the option in kdm?
[01:30] <mart> jahshua: the "Session Type" option or whatever it is?
[01:30] <DexterF> I used to cure that on other dists by copying the libGL over the existing manually but don't wanna mess with the apt data
[01:30] <dipnlik> lillith: hm, don't think the T|T came with docs to go 6... anyway, your options are: get docstogo at least 6 or export your doc files to aportisdoc format
[01:31] <puckman> mart: http://www.last.fm/user/puckman/
[01:31] <jahshua> mart: can you retype what you just typed bu minus the tab completeion on my nick plz :/
[01:31] <jahshua> it makes it unreadable on this terminal
[01:31] <jahshua> for some oddd reason
[01:31] <mart> lol
[01:31] <mart> sure they've not just changed the option in kdm?
[01:31] <mart> the "Session Type" option or whatever it is?
[01:31] <lillith> dipnlik, I have to convert files inside my Tungsten?
[01:31] <dipnlik> lillith: no
[01:31] <dipnlik> lillith: if you get docstogo 6, you won't need conversion anymore
[01:31] <mart> puckman: never heard of half of your stuff ... http://www.last.fm/user/mart-
[01:32] <lillith> dipnlik, where do I find it? is it available through apt?
[01:32] <dipnlik> lillith: just dave yout .doc files to your sd/mmc card and it just works
[01:32] <dipnlik> lillith: docstogo is a palmos app, you'll have to buy it from dataviz
[01:32] <mart> puckman: ah "Groups: ... Hard Trance" - that might be why. ;)
[01:33] <lillith> dipnlik, don`t have sd/mmc
[01:33] <puckman> mart: not listened to hard trance in ages
[01:33] <puckman> mart: to old for my clubbing days now
[01:33] <lillith> dipnlik, I have docstogo 5
[01:34] <Danny> so how do I install firefox 1.5?
[01:34] <Danny> apt-get install firefox doesn't work
[01:34] <dipnlik> lillith: oh. so you'll *have* to go the other way. export your files to aportisdoc on oowriter (i think kword can do this too), then transfer these to your T|T
[01:34] <dipnlik> ubotu: tell Danny about firefox1.5
[01:35] <Danny> ty
[01:35] <lillith> dipnlik, uhm, I want files from my T|T to my comp first
[01:35] <dipnlik> lillith: just not sure if these aportisdoc files are editable :S
[01:37] <mart> puckman: need to configure a proxy?
[01:38] <puckman> dont think so, dont I need to install the mp3 libs first?
[01:38] <mart> yeah
[01:38] <lillith> dipnlik, so there is no way to convert the .pbd files I get to .doc?
[01:39] <dipnlik> lillith: try opening the pdb's in oowriter
[01:39] <puckman> installing now
[01:40] <dipnlik> lillith: another thing you can try is to run docstogo (windows version) using wine
[01:40] <xanax`> hello
[01:41] <lillith> dipnlik, oowriter didn`t work
[01:41] <dipnlik> hi all. where can i get more katapult plugins?
[01:41] <dipnlik> lillith: :(
[01:41] <puckman> mart: weird, I installed the mp3 libs but still no sound out of amarok
[01:41] <mart> puckman: but local files play ok?
[01:41] <dipnlik> lillith: i'm sure it can export to aportisdoc, i already did it when i used palmos
[01:42] <daffy_> > ERROR: Your architecture, \'x86_64\', is not supported by the  Macromedia Flash Player installer.
[01:42] <puckman> mart: yeah, I get sounds out of gaim and the likes
[01:42] <puckman> mart: just checked, no engines found
[01:42] <daffy_> Thoughts anyone ?
[01:42] <mart> daffy_: well, the clue is in the error
[01:42] <mart> daffy_: Macromedia flash player doesn't run on 64 bit.
[01:43] <dipnlik> lillith: probably you'll have to use windows to export your files again. and then from now on use the aportisdoc solution, or spend some money on a newer version of docstogo
[01:43] <daffy_> mart: ty. I had no idea.
[01:43] <mart> daffy_: actually, it can probably be persuaded, but you'll need to google for that.
[01:43] <lillith> dipnlik, the docstogo installed on my win drive has expired :(
[01:43] <dipnlik> lillith: i used docstogo6 on my PDAs, but with native files on the card, worked very very nicely
[01:44] <dipnlik> lillith: wow
[01:44] <dipnlik> lillith: maybe you can try downloading another trial version from dataviz
[01:44] <daffy_> mart: will do.
[01:44] <mart> daffy_: if it's any help, I concluded it wasn't worth the effort.
[01:44] <lillith> dipnlik, could qemu be a solution?
[01:45] <puckman> mart: it only wants to see xine even though all the others are installed
[01:45] <lillith> dipnlik, so if I upgrade to docstogo 6, the T|T will convert by itself?
[01:45] <mart> puckman: maybe you have to rerun kbuildsycoca for it to see the others
[01:45] <mart> puckman:  (and maybe restart amarok)
[01:45] <puckman> eh?
[01:46] <dipnlik> lillith: if you get docstogo 6 or 7 and an SD/MMC card, you won't need conversion
[01:46] <daffy_> mart: Worst case, I'll revert to the 32-bit version.
[01:46] <mart> puckman: available KDE plugins are stored in a database, which can be updated by running kbuildsycoca
[01:46] <lillith> dipnlik, how much would that cost?
[01:47] <dipnlik> lillith: www.dataviz.com for docstogo, maybe ebay for sd/mmc cards
[01:47] <mart> puckman: but why not just use xine - it's probably the best supported
[01:47] <lillith> dipnlik, so there is no way to convert?
[01:47] <mart> I swear that docstogo conversation is going round in circles.
[01:48] <puckman> mart: kio (KSycoca): ERROR: No database available!
[01:48] <dipnlik> lillith: like docstogo does, no way that I know. BUT i don't have a palmos pda for a long time
[01:48] <mart> puckman: yeah, mine says that
[01:48] <puckman> lol
[01:48] <dipnlik> mart: :P i gave lillith all solutions i could find :P
[01:48] <exobuzz> good afternoon. I'm wondering who uses Breezy as a server. How does it compare to debian stable? Obviously more updated php/apache, but does it work as it should etc. Is a 6month release cycle linux recommended for a server environment ?
[01:49] <mart> dipnlik: I don't doubt it.
[01:49] <mart> exobuzz: I do
[01:49] <lillith> so there is no way to get my T|T to give me .doc files in linux/ubuntu?
[01:49] <mart> you don't have to do a 6 month release cycle
[01:50] <exobuzz> i just found the ubuntu-server channel. probably i should be asking in there.
[01:50] <mart> exobuzz: releases are supposed to get fixes for up to 18months.
[01:50] <exobuzz> mart: aah ok. thats good
[01:51] <mart> exobuzz: and of course, different people have different ideas about how stable a server should be
[01:51] <dipnlik> lillith: not that i know of. borrow a friend's windows machine, do the stuff and give him a kubuntu CD in gratitude
[01:51] <misieq> god, why firefox can't be build to match kde themes. i mean it looks so much like gnome desktop - it's sharp edges, almost no colours. windows version of firefox looks sooooo much better than linux one. is there any way to make it look nice? i've found only _one_ nice theme but it imitated windows' luna interface. fsck!
[01:51] <mart> dipnlik: good solution :)
[01:51] <exobuzz> mart: right... debian stable is stable, but its also getting quite old already, so ..
[01:52] <Potmos> try plastikfox, misieq
[01:52] <Potmos> hello, everyone
[01:52] <misieq> Potmos: yeah, tried. for firefox 0.8-1.0
[01:52] <dipnlik> !catalogs
[01:52] <ubotu> dipnlik: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:53] <daffy_> Hello Potmos
[01:53] <misieq> even breezy repositories have 1.07
[01:53] <Potmos> isn't it compatible with fox 1.5?
[01:53] <lillith> dipnlik, I got it to sync :D:D:D
[01:53] <Potmos> too bad... i use noia anyway
[01:54] <misieq> Potmos: firefox says it is not. what a lame product, how could they not make it backwards-compatible
[01:54] <Potmos> looks good and helps me distinguish between firefox and konqueror
[01:54] <lillith> dipnlik, my old docstogo syncs .txt files
[01:54] <Potmos> themes are not mozilla foundation's responsibility
[01:54] <misieq> Potmos: but theme engine is
[01:55] <mart> misieq: making stuff backwards compatible usually leads to ugly hacks, in my experience
[01:55] <Potmos> and backwards compatibility is not really easy sometimes
[01:55] <Potmos> i agree with mart
[01:55] <Potmos> :)
[01:55] <Potmos> anyway... i got problems of my own...
[01:55] <Potmos> :)
[01:55] <Potmos> anyone got apache/php/mysql to work?
[01:55] <mart> yep
[01:56] <Potmos> with each other i mean
[01:56] <misieq> i've got an idea :) i'll use opera :)
[01:56] <mart> Potmos: what's the problem? they just work (tm) ;)
[01:56] <Potmos> i'm trying to install a cms on my box... no luck so far
[01:56] <mart> ah, CMS's are ugly hacks too.
[01:56] <Potmos> lol
[01:56] <lillith> dipnlik, if my docstogo5 can sync .txt files, docstogo8 should be able to sync .doc,right?
[01:56] <dipnlik> misieq: opera is good, there is a plastik theme for it. unfortunately there is the image problem :S
[01:57] <Potmos> installed apache
[01:57] <Potmos> installed php
[01:57] <Potmos> installed mysql
[01:57] <Potmos> but no luck
[01:57] <mart> right, now if you actually said what wasn't working.... ;)
[01:57] <Potmos> my browser tries to open index.php instead of executing it
[01:58] <Potmos> and before that
[01:58] <Potmos> when php worked for a little while
[01:58] <mart> er, you mean the web server sends the source of the php script?
[01:58] <Potmos> yes
[01:58] <misieq> Potmos: it seems apache does not know that it should run php interpreter for this script
[01:58] <Potmos> indeed
[01:58] <mart> you need to set the index types for the CMS directory structure
[01:59] <Potmos> when i first installed A.M.P., php worked
[01:59] <mart> which apache version?
[01:59] <Potmos> but it couldn't see mysql
[01:59] <Potmos> 2
[01:59] <misieq> Potmos: you have to edit /etc/apache2/httpd.conf
[01:59] <Potmos> i did that
[01:59] <Potmos> misieq:
[02:00] <mart> Potmos: you've added index.php to the DirectoryIndex line?
[02:00] <Potmos> yes
[02:00] <mart> and restarted the server?
[02:00] <Potmos> yes
[02:00] <Potmos> (many times)
[02:00] <Potmos> :)
[02:00] <misieq> Potmos: well, maybe not exactly that file, but somewhere in /etc/apache2 you should tell apache to use php plugin to execute those files
[02:00] <mart> Potmos: is the php plugin enabled?
[02:00] <Potmos> lemme check mods_enables
[02:00] <Potmos> *enabled
[02:01] <misieq> /etc/apache2/apache2.conf, line should look like this:
[02:01] <misieq> "AddType application/x-httpd-php .php"
[02:01] <dipnlik> i heard someone saying katapult can do calc, my katapult doesn't do this. where can i get plugins?
[02:01] <Potmos> misieq: it does
[02:01] <puckman> hahaha, I just ran adapt and restarted
[02:02] <puckman> and see that my desktop has been replaced with konqi painting
[02:02] <Potmos> mart: php4 or php5 isn't even in available plugins
[02:02] <mart> Potmos: then install it?
[02:02] <Potmos> i have installed it
[02:03] <Potmos> that's the tricky thing
[02:03] <Potmos> :)
[02:03] <puckman> mart: the restart fixed the audio problem
[02:03] <mart> Potmos: libapache2-mod-php4 is installed?
[02:03] <Potmos> yup
[02:04] <mart> Potmos: well, if you don't have a file /etc/apache2/mods-available/php4.load then you need to reinstall it
[02:04] <Potmos> ok... (i have reinstalled it a dozen times) i'll do it again :)
[02:05] <mart> Potmos: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=%2Fetc%2Fapache2%2Fmods-available%2Fphp4.load%0D%0A&searchmode=searchfiles&case=insensitive&version=breezy&arch=i386
[02:06] <misieq> how do i mount iso images? there was some trick with loopback interface..
[02:06] <mart> mount -o loop file.iso /mnt
[02:07] <puckman> anyone got any problems with unzipping files on flight 6?
[02:08] <lillith> does docstogo8 on my palmOS device make the pda accept .doc files for syncing?
[02:09] <misieq> i have some .img file, (created by some cdrwin or some app of this sort) any idea what fs type should i use? or how to see the contents of the file?
[02:09] <Potmos> mart: same problem again
[02:09] <mart> Potmos: well, is the file there?
[02:09] <Potmos> installed mod-php4 , restarted apache
[02:10] <Potmos> nope
[02:10] <Mr_Kiasu> http://www.thepeacefulrealm.tk/
[02:10] <mart> Potmos: what does this say: dpkg -l apache2*|grep ^ii|awk '{print $2}'
[02:11] <Potmos> apache2-common
[02:11] <Potmos> apache2-mpm-prefork
[02:11] <Potmos> apache2-utils
[02:11] <Potmos> that's it
[02:11] <puckman> hmmm, Kmail eats space on my small 12" screen
[02:12] <mart> Potmos: ok, now add another * before apache: dpkg -l *apache2* ....
[02:13] <Potmos> libapache2-mod-php4
[02:13] <mart> and dpkg -L  libapache2-mod-php4 ?
[02:14] <mart> Potmos: if you don't have the files that that lists, then you're pretty much stuffed.
[02:15] <Potmos> i *should* have these files... or the system thinks i *do* have them?
[02:16] <mart> Potmos: both
[02:16] <conn> hi, is there a script that I can use to start X with the failsafe terminal? I'm testing xorg driver changes and I need to restart X often with a simple shell, but I wanna bypass kdm each time to save time
[02:16] <Potmos> # /etc/apache2/mods-available/php4.load
[02:17] <Potmos> is not there
[02:17] <conn> hi, is there a script that I can use to start X with the failsafe terminal? I'm testing xorg driver changes and I need to restart X often with a simple shell, but I wanna bypass kdm/gdm each time to save time
[02:17] <Potmos> neither is /etc/apache2/mods-available/php4.conf
[02:18] <Potmos> all the rest are ok
[02:18] <mart> Potmos: how did you try reinstalling the package?
[02:19] <Potmos> both by apt-get install --reinstall and by choosing the reinstall option in adept
[02:19] <Potmos> i have also "purged" the package many times
[02:20] <mart> Potmos: if I was you I'd hunt down the package in /var/cache/apt/archives and see what the deal is
[02:20] <Potmos> mart: should i look inside it if the files are there?
[02:21] <mart> extract it with: ar x libapache2-mod-php4*deb,  then look in the binary.tar.gz to see what's there
[02:21] <puckman> W000T, flight 6 has the new gimp!
[02:21] <Potmos> ok
[02:21] <Potmos> looking
[02:26] <Potmos> which tool should i install to unpack deb packages?
[02:27] <Potmos> ark doesn't seem to recognize them
[02:27] <mart> Potmos: [13:18]  <mart> extract it with: ar x libapache2-mod-php4*deb,  then look in the binary.tar.gz to see what's there
[02:29] <Potmos> both files are inside it
[02:30] <mart> then copy them?
[02:34] <Potmos> just a sec... brb... sudo problems :)
[02:48] <twosouls82> good afternoon :)
[02:48] <Potmos> good afternoon, twosouls82
[02:48] <twosouls82> Potmos: :)
[02:49] <twosouls82> I have booted the LiveCD, now how do I install it? (Kanotix had an install icon :D )
[02:49] <twosouls82> or is the LiveCD only a LiveCD?
[02:50] <Potmos> which live cd?
[02:50] <Potmos> i mean which release?
[02:50] <twosouls82> badger
[02:51] <Potmos> breezy badger did not have an install from live cd feature
[02:51] <Potmos> dapper drake will
[02:51] <twosouls82> :S dapper drake isn't available on amd64 is it?
[02:51] <Potmos> not yet, i think
[02:51] <twosouls82> so I have to download the install cd now :P
[02:52] <Potmos> yup
[02:52] <twosouls82> lol
[02:52] <Potmos> slow connection?
[02:52] <twosouls82> what a 'handy' LiveCD
[02:52] <Potmos> phew
[02:53] <Potmos> more than i would dream of... at present i mean
[02:53] <Potmos> in this god-forsaken peninsula of a country i live in
[02:53] <twosouls82> and where would that be Potmos?
[02:54] <Potmos> greece
[02:54] <twosouls82> good food there :)
[02:54] <Potmos> lol
[02:54] <Potmos> yeah, that's almost all and only good we have
[02:55] <twosouls82> Potmos: beautifull country too!!
[02:55] <Potmos> ever been here?
[02:55] <twosouls82> can I download the install cd in the live session and then burn it?
[02:55] <Potmos> sure
[02:56] <Potmos> does the live cd have k3b?
[02:56] <twosouls82> Potmos: yep (2x)
[02:56] <Potmos> ok
[02:57] <Potmos> beautiful country, yes... ugly people though
[02:57] <twosouls82> Potmos: big noses :)
[02:57] <Potmos> no... i don't mean externally
[02:57] <Potmos> :)
[02:57] <twosouls82> :P
[02:57] <Potmos> although that could be said too
[02:57] <Potmos> :)
[02:57] <twosouls82> :)
[02:58] <Potmos> greeks are irresponsible, selfish snatch n' grabbers, never caring for anything else than their own welfare
[02:58] <twosouls82> sound like a Dutchman
[02:58] <Potmos> each one for his own
[02:59] <twosouls82> Potmos: you must be an exeption ;)
[02:59] <sinik> Well, not everyone, but I guess that's fair enough as well
[02:59] <Potmos> twosouls82: oh sure... every greek thinks so :P
[03:00] <twosouls82> lol
[03:00] <Potmos> sinik: of course not everyone
[03:00] <Potmos> just the vast or the visible majority
[03:01] <sinik> Well, from my experience, the fair and honest minority, is not exactly a minority, they just don't get a lot of attention so no one knows they exist :P
[03:02] <twosouls82> Potmos: what made that LiveCd 650 MB (which made me think it would install too)?
[03:02] <twosouls82> sinik: amen :)
[03:02] <Potmos> i want to believe that too, sinik
[03:02] <Potmos> twosouls82: i suppose it does have a decent load of apps... does it?
[03:02] <Potmos> never really tried the live cd
[03:03] <Potmos> the only livecd i use is knoppix
[03:03] <twosouls82> :)
[03:03] <Potmos> and that for troubleshooting purposes
[03:04] <twosouls82> Potmos: do you know where in my computer the download is saved when I save it to my desktop (in the livecd)?
[03:04] <twosouls82> I mean, in the mem or....
[03:04] <Potmos> in the ram i suppose
[03:04] <twosouls82> good that I have so much :P
[03:04] <Potmos> lol
[03:05] <Potmos> if there is a swap partition the live cd uses it
[03:05] <twosouls82> than it uses a 4.3GB swap
[03:06] <Potmos> wow... big swap
[03:06] <twosouls82> 2 x mem
[03:06] <Potmos> i suppose u have a big ram too
[03:06] <twosouls82> :D
[03:06] <Potmos> well... it isn't a good idea to make swaps bigger than 512 mb
[03:06] <Potmos> makes the system crawl
[03:07] <twosouls82> Potmos: one has to double its mem
[03:07] <twosouls82> and my drive is sata so :)
[03:07] <Potmos> the old "swap = 2xRAM" rule was valid when RAM couldn't possibly get larger than 256k
[03:07] <Potmos> 256m
[03:08] <twosouls82> is it so?
[03:08] <sinik> I only have around 500megs of swap, and my system hardly uses any of it (then again, I haven't done anything really mem instensive lately)
[03:08] <Potmos> i have experienced performance issues with swap bigger than 512
[03:08] <twosouls82> I do mem intensive things here :)
[03:09] <Potmos> nicely...
[03:09] <Lillith_> does anybody have a .prc or .pbd install file for docstogo?
[03:09] <Potmos> i will try again .... maybe it happened because of a misconfigured kernel
[03:09] <twosouls82> I even experience less issues with a larger swap ;)
[03:10] <twosouls82> Potmos: suse still recommends the 2 times
[03:10] <Potmos> okie
[03:10] <twosouls82> :)
[03:10] <Potmos> i'll try it at the next repartitioning
[03:10] <twosouls82> (Y)
[03:11] <twosouls82> also, guive goot a own partition then ;)
[03:11] <twosouls82> boot*
[03:11] <Potmos> should i?
[03:11] <twosouls82> I believe I saw my machine speed up because of it :) Potmos
[03:11] <Potmos> i doubt it will improve my little old celeron's performance
[03:11] <twosouls82> during boot
[03:11] <Potmos> :)
[03:12] <twosouls82> :)
[03:12] <Potmos> ever tried initng?
[03:12] <twosouls82> nope
[03:12] <twosouls82> what is it?
[03:12] <twosouls82> initrd I  know of
[03:13] <Potmos> a replacement of initrd
[03:13] <twosouls82> a, and quicker?
[03:13] <Potmos> loads services in parallel...
[03:13] <twosouls82> :)
[03:13] <Potmos> they say it goes like a rocket
[03:13] <twosouls82> I will try, Potmos
[03:14] <Potmos> they have an ubuntu package
[03:14] <twosouls82> brb
[03:14] <Potmos> i was about to try it... but cowarded one step before making the final changes
[03:14] <Potmos> ok
[03:14] <twosouls82> Potmos: later
[03:14] <Potmos> cya
[03:14] <twosouls82> thanks, nice talking to this Greek
[03:14] <twosouls82> :P
[03:14] <Potmos> tx mate\
[03:21] <twosouls82> Potmos: it's me again
[03:22] <twosouls82> you were talking about dapper, weren't you?
[03:23] <twosouls82> what is the newest possible release of Kubuntu?
[03:24] <twosouls82> dapper is newer than breezy?
[03:24] <visik7> yes
[03:24] <twosouls82> visik7: thanks, I saw there is a amd64 version too :D
[03:25] <Kamping_Kaiser> does Kubuntu Breezy use adept or kynpatix?
[03:25] <visik7> yes also for breezy
[03:25] <Kamping_Kaiser> *kynaptic
[03:25] <visik7> Kamping_Kaiser: adept
[03:25] <twosouls82> visik7: I want the newest :)
[03:25] <visik7> twosouls82: the newest stable release of ubuntu is breezy
[03:25] <twosouls82> visik7: which KDE is supplied with Dapper?
[03:25] <visik7> dapper is in development
[03:25] <Kamping_Kaiser> visik7: thanks
[03:25] <visik7> twosouls82: 3.5.1
[03:25] <visik7> twosouls82: 3.5.2
[03:26] <twosouls82> and what are the cons for using Dapper?
[03:26] <visik7> but there are kde packages also for breezy
[03:26] <visik7> twosouls82: many daily updates and possible broken things
[03:27] <twosouls82> visik7: when I tried that, the upgrade wouldn't succeed in Breezy, due to broken dependicies
[03:27] <visik7> install dapper from flight cd
[03:27] <twosouls82> what does 'flight cd' mean?
[03:31] <twosouls82> hallo gert
[03:34] <visik7> twosouls82:
[03:34] <visik7> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/dapper/flight-6/
[03:35] <wazaaa> hello
[03:35] <twosouls82> visik7: why that one and not: http://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/ubuntu-cdimage/kubuntu/dvd/current/?
[03:35] <edulix> hi !
[03:35] <sinik> why do you want dapper anyway? get breezy and update to kde 3.5.2
[03:36] <edulix> anyone know a social bookmarking tool for konqueror like del.icci.us?
[03:36] <edulix> del.ici.us
[03:36] <twosouls82> sinik: I tried yesterday, but half of the kde packages couldn't be updated, due to "Install (Break)"
[03:36] <edulix> I want to integrate it in my konqi
[03:37] <visik7> twosouls82: never got problem to upgrade breezy with official repo
[03:37] <visik7> I dunno what repo are u using
[03:37] <twosouls82> the one set by default :s
[03:37] <twosouls82> o no
[03:37] <visik7> uh ?
[03:37] <twosouls82> the one on the announcement page of kubuntu for kde 3.5.2
[03:38] <GNU_Style> wat does ./ mean? and ~ mean?
[03:38] <visik7> twosouls82: works without problem for me
[03:38] <visik7> I dunno what have u changed
[03:39] <twosouls82> visik7: also on a 64bit?
[03:39] <sinik> twosouls82: I used that too and only a couple not so important packages wouldn't install, and everything seems to be working fine so far
[03:39] <visik7> twosouls82: no 32
[03:39] <visik7> GNU_Style: rispectivily current dir and home user dir
[03:40] <GNU_Style> ~gfx mean /home/gfx?
[03:40] <visik7> GNU_Style: no
[03:40] <twosouls82> ;)
[03:40] <slow-motion> hallo
[03:40] <visik7> means /home/yourusergfx and by the way is wrong should be ~/gfx
[03:41] <twosouls82> :L
[03:41] <GNU_Style> visik7, what does ~gfx mean?
[03:41] <visik7> nothing
[03:41] <twosouls82> GNU_Style: sometimes writers refer like that to a particular directory...
[03:47] <twosouls82> visik7: you convinced me, I am downloading a much larger DVD of Breezy than I did yesterday :s
[03:50] <puckman> erm, anyone having problems visiting http://www.kde-look.org/ ?
[03:50] <twosouls82> puckman: yes, unknown host here
[03:51] <puckman> Ah ok, feel better now, its not my system ^_^
[03:52] <puckman> and now I also feel sad as i was looking forward to load some new themes X_X
[03:52] <twosouls82> :)
[03:52] <twosouls82> you'll have to wait
[03:53] <slow-motion> http://www.kde-look.org/ makes problems here too
[03:53] <xanax`> yesturday, I had problems uploading a file
[03:56] <twosouls82> hoi leeghoofd
[03:57] <leeghoofd> hey, I have a button for Kaffeine in the kde menu (not in a sub menu but directly in the menu above System Settings) if I remove it and save with the kmenu editor it keeps komming back, do you knwo how to remove it?
[03:57] <leeghoofd> I have permission to write to the menu file because I can edit other parts of the menu
[03:58] <twosouls82> leeghoofd: gebruik je bestandenbrowser om hem te verwijderen, kmenu is voor jouw alleen
[03:59] <leeghoofd> twosouls82: I don't want to remove the program, I just want to remove the starter from the menu because it belongs in the submenu Multimedia and not in the root menu
[03:59] <leeghoofd> twosouls82: hehe, vast aan me naam te zien dat ik nl ben ;)
[04:00] <twosouls82> leeghoofd: look in /usr/share/applications or /opt/kde3/share/applications or something like that (depending on your distro), there are the menu shortcuts :P
[04:00] <twosouls82> leeghoofd: ja en aan "leeghoofd has joined this channel (n=david@dsl-213-233-208-073.solcon.nl)."
[04:01] <twosouls82> leeghoofd: open the shortcut this is all about and change the "Categories"
[04:03] <leeghoofd> twosouls82: how you mean open? If I click on it it starts the app
[04:04] <twosouls82> leeghoofd: right click open with kate
[04:05] <leeghoofd> twosouls82: ok thanks, I can't pm you back, it says I have to register
[04:05] <twosouls82> leeghoofd: you need to be root to save it
[04:05] <leeghoofd> twosouls82: actually I am registered, just don't know how to login :)
[04:06] <leeghoofd> twosouls82: do you know which categorie from these to remove? Categories=Qt;KDE;Application;AudioVideo;Player;
[04:06] <twosouls82> Application
[04:06] <twosouls82> and Player before AudioPlayer is my preference
[04:07] <leeghoofd> twosouls82: ok thanks, done that
[04:07] <twosouls82> and does it work?
[04:07] <leeghoofd> twosouls82: I guess I have to relogin to see the effect?
[04:07] <twosouls82> no, wait a while
[04:08] <leeghoofd> does anyone know how to configure konversation to auto login?
[04:08] <twosouls82> leeghoofd: also look (using kfind) if there are more <progx>.desktop files
[04:08] <twosouls82> leeghoofd: yep
[04:08] <twosouls82> momentje
[04:08] <antti> hello
[04:09] <twosouls82> hi
[04:09] <leeghoofd> twosouls82: there's service and password but I dont know what service
[04:09] <antti> I'm gettingerror message "FATAL: Module em28xx not found." when trying to use command "sudo modprobe -v em28xx". Could someone help me, I need my TV? :)
[04:10] <twosouls82> leeghoofd: /msg NickServ REGISTER ofzo, try Google
[04:10] <twosouls82> :s can't recall
[04:10] <robotgeek> !register
[04:10] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[04:11] <twosouls82> ubotu: you go!
[04:11] <ubotu> twosouls82: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:11] <robotgeek> twosouls82: ubotu is a bot
[04:11] <twosouls82> hahaha
[04:11] <twosouls82> :)
[04:11] <leeghoofd> one moment
[04:11] <twosouls82> ubotu register
[04:11] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[04:12] <twosouls82> welcome back again :P
[04:12] <leeghoofd> I think it worked
[04:12] <leeghoofd> hi :)
[04:12] <antti> can I use Kaffeine as TV?
[04:12] <twosouls82> leeghoofd: look in the freenode tab if it worked
[04:12] <twosouls82> antti: don't know, I use KDETV
[04:13] <leeghoofd> /usr/share/app-install/desktop/kaffeine.desktop
[04:13] <leeghoofd> /usr/share/applications/kde/kaffeine.desktop
[04:13] <leeghoofd> /usr/share/mimelnk/application/x-kaffeine.desktop
[04:13] <leeghoofd> is that good twosouls82 ?
[04:13] <farous> hi i think i am having a common problem with dapper and braodcom wireless. The wireless device does nto seem to work is there a solution yet for this prob
[04:13] <twosouls82> leeghoofd: whisper it's contents to me...
[04:13] <robotgeek> farous is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx << check dapper section for native support
[04:13] <farous> thanx robotgeek
[04:14] <leeghoofd> twosouls82: can I do /msg twosouls82 and than paste the entire file?
[04:14] <leeghoofd> or will all but the first line be pasted here? :-p
[04:14] <robotgeek> leeghoofd, don't paste in here. Please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[04:14] <twosouls82> leeghoofd: I always use the nickslist on the right in Konversation
[04:15] <twosouls82> leeghoofd: I am new to IRC
[04:16] <leeghoofd> ok, I pasted it here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11443
[04:16] <simian__> how can i see what daemons are running?
[04:17] <twosouls82> leeghoofd: you pasted /usr/share/applications/kde/kaffeine.desktop 2x
[04:17] <leeghoofd> twosouls82: oops
[04:19] <twosouls82> leeghoofd: is there a third link??
[04:19] <twosouls82> because these together are good
[04:19] <leeghoofd> oops, it's way late, I got to hurry to get in time on work!!, yep there's a third file, but ahev to leave now, thanks for your help! bye
[04:20] <twosouls82> bye
[04:20] <twosouls82> :P
[04:20] <twosouls82> werkse
[04:25] <lutty711> i know this may sound easy, but is there a difference between burning an ISO image to dvd instead of CD?
[04:26] <xwolf-> how do i stop mysql process?
[04:29] <Libertus> sudo /etc/init.d/mysql stop
[04:30] <neomilium> hi
[04:30] <neomilium> i have some problems with acceleration on ATI radeon
[04:31] <robotgeek> !ati
[04:31] <ubotu> I guess ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[04:31] <neomilium> ok, but ATI Proprietary driver doesn't work with radeon IGP 330M
[04:32] <robotgeek> neomilium: no clue, sorry
[04:37] <neomilium> what is better in xorg.conf, in card section : Driver "ati" or Driver "radeon" (with my radeon IGP 3xxM which dont support fglrx)
[04:40] <Rayman> whatbout xpress 200M
[04:41] <neomilium> Rayman : xpress 200M? maybe
[04:41] <neomilium> Rayman : sry i dont know because its in a laptop
[04:42] <xwolf-> root@almeida:/etc/init.d# mysql
[04:42] <xwolf-> ERROR 2002: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[04:43] <xwolf-> alternatives.. i can't get it to work
[04:43] <bur[n] er> can anyone tell me the kde equivalent to "gksudo"
[04:43] <xwolf-> kdesu?
[04:44] <bur[n] er> that's it... thanks!
[04:45] <xwolf-> np
[04:48] <lutty711> is there a difference burning dapper ISO's to dvd instead of CD?
[04:50] <xwolf-> lutty711 you will lose more than 3gb of useful space
[04:50] <lutty711> yeah i know, but im out of CD's
[04:51] <xwolf-> well, if you can make it bootable, i don't think there is a problem
[04:51] <lutty711> That what I cant figure out, it burns but wont boot
[04:55] <mihai_> why the *flower* when i use this pipe-lining =>  w|grep -e":"|cut -f"1" -d" "  <= i get on the first line an empty line?
[04:56] <Dru> afternoon all
[05:03] <killian>    i cannot boot from kubuntu fligh6 image
[05:03] <killian> any advice?
[05:04] <robotgeek> killian: did you verify the iso before burning? did you burn at a low speed?
[05:04] <killian> i didnt verify
[05:04] <robotgeek> killian: well, verify it then
[05:04] <killian> but mc says it is ok
[05:04] <killian> is sees the files
[05:05] <killian> i can browse the burned image
[05:05] <killian> everything is in place
[05:05] <killian> except it does not boot
[05:05] <robotgeek> killian: strange
[05:06] <killian> yes
[05:06] <killian> how do i check md5?
[05:06] <killian> md5sum filename.iso?
[05:06] <pichi_> moin
[05:07] <killian> md5 says iso is ok
[05:07] <killian> again, i cannot boot from the cd
[05:07] <killian> ANY ADVICE?
[05:08] <killian> i dont have i floppy to use the floppy image on cd
[05:09] <robotgeek> killian: not sure, really. maybe reburning at slow speeds might be helpful
[05:10] <riri> rebonjour
[05:10] <killian> it's kubuntu flight6 i'm trying
[05:10] <killian> perhaps the iso is busted
[05:10] <riri> no
[05:10] <riri> i am trying it too
[05:11] <killian> you say the iso is ok?
[05:11] <inc|freaky> hi all. is it save to allready upgrade to dapper?
[05:11] <riri> i just made it
[05:12] <inc|freaky> riri: was everything working after the upgrade?
[05:12] <riri> i am upgrading
[05:12] <inc|freaky> ah ok ;)
[05:12] <riri> just trying livecd
[05:12] <riri> sorry
[05:12] <riri> not
[05:12] <riri> i want to install kubuntu
[05:13] <twosouls82> :)
[05:14] <riri> but i want to see if i can connect usb2/network adapter and share internet
[05:14] <riri> i like the vista theme
[05:14] <riri> i was looking for one and never found it on other distro
[05:14] <riri> except gnome
[05:15] <riri> does someone know how to share internet connection "kubuntu to xp"
[05:16] <riri> #kubuntu-fr
[05:22] <tristanmike> Is Kubuntu Breezy known unstable? it seems my knoqueror crashes at least once a day, even if I close Konqueror it crashes. Kopete crashes frequently too. Is stabilty shakey or is there something I can do to try an remedy it ? Thanx in advance.
[05:22] <crimsun> are you using the latest updates?
[05:22] <tristanmike> i believe so, let me apt-get update just to make sure
[05:23] <tristanmike> yeah, it seems I'm up to date...is there an Update manager like there is for Ubuntu or to i just use update/upgrade ?
[05:24] <tristanmike> s/to/do
[05:24] <crimsun> Adept
[05:25] <robotgeek> tristanmike: what version of kde are you using?
[05:27] <tristanmike> robotgeek: sorry, afk for a sec, um default Breezy
[05:27] <Rayman> how to play WMVs etc (w32codecs) on amd64?
[05:27] <tristanmike> oh, so adept does take updates, cool, never noticed
[05:27] <robotgeek> tristanmike: i think that 3.4.3, upgrade to 3.5.2
[05:28] <m5m> if I'm filing a bugzilla report for eclipse and they're asking my OS do I put Linux, Linux-Gtk, or Linux-Motif?  Gtk is more gnome isn't it?
[05:28] <tristanmike> robotgeek: the update goes smoothly? what's ubotu's factoid for the link to do so ?
[05:28] <robotgeek> !3.5.2
[05:28] <ubotu> 3.5
[05:29] <tristanmike> hahaaha
[05:29] <tristanmike> ubotu: your a fool
[05:29] <ubotu> tristanmike: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:29] <robotgeek> tristanmike: you know what to do :)
[05:29] <tristanmike> robotgeek:  I thought I had the link, but I can't seem to find it, don't I need a sources line...?
[05:30] <twosouls82> !kontact
[05:30] <ubotu> kontact is, like, totally, an application that freatures all of the KDE PIM modules in one place. It's KDE's alternative to MS Outlook.
[05:30] <twosouls82> hahaha
[05:30] <robotgeek> tristanmike: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-352.php
[05:30] <twosouls82> neat
[05:30] <tristanmike> robotgeek: merci :)
[05:32] <tristanmike> robotgeek: so when I add the line and apt-get update/upgrade, do I comment the line again, or are there security updates based on this sources.list entry ?
[05:32] <robotgeek> tristanmike: keep the line in, no harm done
[05:32] <robotgeek> possibly updates are also in the repo
[05:32] <tristanmike> ok, thanx, and this "upgrade" won't affect any of my settings will it ?
[05:33] <robotgeek> tristanmike: nope
[05:33] <tristanmike> cool
[05:33] <ruedy> hi, i my ubuntu dapper drake is freezing all the time. is there something i can do?
[05:33] <tristanmike> robotgeek: so I just drop the line in there and apt-get update/upgrade and I'm good to go? should I log out the log in ?
[05:34] <robotgeek> tristanmike: restart kde, that all
[05:42] <tristanmike> robotgeek: can I go back if things mess up?
[05:43] <robotgeek> tristanmike: not to worry, i don't think things will mess up. you can go back too
[05:44] <tristanmike> robotgeek: errors
[05:44] <robotgeek> tristanmike: pastebin?
[05:44] <tristanmike> already ahead of you
[05:45] <tristanmike> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11451
[05:46] <robotgeek> tristanmike: sudo apt-get -f install
[05:46] <tristanmike> hmmm....
[05:46] <nico8481> lo
[05:46] <tristanmike> why do I want to force it
[05:48] <tristanmike> robotgeek: ?
[05:50] <robotgeek> tristanmike: to be honest, i am not sure. but since you know it's going to be safe, go ahead :)
[05:50] <robotgeek> tristanmike: -f is not force, but --fix-broken
[05:51] <tristanmike> oh, well, that changes everything then :)
[05:51] <ruedy> hi, my ubuntu dapper drake is freezing all the time, is there something i can do?
[05:51] <tristanmike> robotgeek: so what's the command line "apt-get -f upgrade" ?
[05:52] <robotgeek> ruedy: are you in the right room? #ubuntu maybe?
[05:52] <robotgeek> tristanmike: man apt-get
[05:52] <ruedy> sry, im meant kubuntu
[05:52] <tristanmike> great, I haven't taken my hiroglyphs course yet :P
[05:52] <robotgeek> ruedy: it freezes simply?
[05:53] <Barbelos> Does anyone know if Kubuntu breezer comes with ndiswrapper? I can't get online at all without it, so if not I'll have to download it before installing.
[05:53] <ruedy> yep
[05:53] <ruedy> like all three or four minutes
[05:54] <ruedy> and im updating all the time
[05:54] <robotgeek> Barbelos: i think it's on the cd
[05:54] <tristanmike> robotgeek: got it now, thanx again, I apologise for the 3rd degree but I like to play Devils Advocate, I find I learn much more this way, so sorry if I insulted your intelligence :)   So now once that's done, just log out of kde and log back in ?
[05:54] <robotgeek> tristanmike: ctrl + alt + del
[05:55] <tristanmike> I don't like that command, it has a tendency of sending me to a command promt
[05:55] <tristanmike> s/promt/prompt
[05:55] <Barbelos> robotgeek: Ah.. good. Thanks! :)
[05:55] <tristanmike> is that normal ?
[05:56] <robotgeek> tristanmike: that will restart X and give you a shiny new kde, hopefully
[05:57] <tristanmike> robotgeek: and I'm saying when I use that command it has a tendency of bringing me to a tty terminal and I have to login and "startx" then things don't really run properly...
[05:57] <tristanmike> have you ever encountered this problem
[05:57] <robotgeek> tristanmike: it should give a kdm, not console
[05:57] <tristanmike> what ti should and what it does are two different things
[05:57] <tristanmike> *it
[06:00] <robotgeek> tristanmike: yup
[06:02] <tristanmike> robotgeek: so what's your suggestion?
[06:03] <robotgeek> tristanmike: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[06:03] <tristanmike> robotgeek: wait, is it ctrl+alt+del ? or ctrl+alt+backspace ?
[06:04] <robotgeek> tristanmike: it's back space on windows keyboards, and del on mac ones
[06:04] <tristanmike> ah, right, ok, then my story stands :P
[06:07] <tristanmike> how do I remove/stop files from appearing on my desktop with "~" at the end, ie "Text File.txt~"
[06:08] <robotgeek> tristanmike: look in kate preferences
[06:09] <conn> hi, can kaffeine play streaming media via udp?
[06:10] <McScruff> lo all
[06:13] <Nero_LX> Hallo, ich habe mir Kubuntu Dapper 64bit installiert nun wird das netzwerk aber nicht mehr gestartet. ber System settings"
[06:13] <tristanmike> conn: I recommend the kaffeine-xine engine, I don't know for sure if it will do what you ask, but it seems the better engine to me
[06:13] <robotgeek> !de
[06:13] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[06:14] <conn> tristanmike: doesn't kaffeine already use the xine engine by default?
[06:15] <tristanmike> conn: I think gstreamer...but I'm not positive, I can't remember....
[06:15] <tristanmike> conn: I can't say for sure, cause I have both and I can't remember what came first, the chicken or the egg, er, I mean, gstreamer or xine :P
[06:15] <conn> hmm, well I'm running dapper, and I don't see mention of gstreamer anywhere, I can only configure the xine engine parameters
[06:16] <conn> (gstreamer is installed, I mean.. just no mention of it in kaffeine's prefs)
[06:16] <tristanmike> !dapper
[06:16] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[06:16] <tristanmike> I use Breezy so i'm probably no help to you, sorry :)
[06:16] <conn> it's cool, I know about the other channel, but most people use Ubuntu and not Kubuntu.. I was just looking for guidance to play udp streams
[06:17] <conn> that's fine, thanks anyway
[06:17] <tristanmike> true, sorry, I'll help in a couple of months, but I guess that's too long for you to wait :P
[06:17] <conn> haha
[06:19] <robotgeek> conn: kaffeine in dapper should be able to play them
[06:22] <tristanmike> robotgeek: how do I tell if I'm running the new KDE ?
[06:22] <robotgeek> tristanmike: help about kde
[06:23] <tristanmike> robotgeek: still says 3.4.3
[06:23] <robotgeek> tristanmike: okay the upgrade/install did not finish, most probably
[06:24] <robotgeek> tristanmike: paste sources.list?
[06:24] <tristanmike> k
[06:24] <McScruff> can someone help me getting my wifi working pls
[06:25] <robotgeek> !wireless
[06:25] <ubotu> wireless is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers
[06:26] <McScruff> it detects it tho
[06:26] <tristanmike> robotgeek: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11454
[06:26] <robotgeek> !wifi
[06:26] <ubotu> I guess wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[06:26] <robotgeek> then McScruff , read that ^^
[06:27] <robotgeek> tristanmike: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:27] <tristanmike> ahh, the dist-upgrade is what I missed
[06:28] <tristanmike> that's better.....so far
[06:28] <tristanmike> duh, someone hit me with a trout please
[06:28] <McScruff> brb
[06:37] <gleesond> my sound isn't working and I don't know where to start... can any one give me a hint on where I should start
[06:38] <Tm_T> gleesond: wiki.ubuntu.com is food place to start :)
[06:38] <Tm_T> gleesond: also doublecheck wiring and mixer settings
[06:44] <gleesond> Tm_T: I'm sure the wireing is correct.... so I'll check out the wiki
[06:45] <tristanmike> robotgeek: thanx, my settings did get messed up a bit, but I think I'm back to rockin again, thanx
[06:45] <robotgeek> tristanmike: cool
[06:45] <tristanmike> robotgeek: yup, you da man :)
[06:46] <tristanmike> oddly enough, it does feel better, plus I like what they've done to add applets to the kicker...
[06:46] <tristanmike> errr...the panels
[06:47] <twosouls82> how did I update to 3.5.2 again?
[06:47] <tristanmike> hehe, I just did it
[06:48] <tristanmike> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-352.php
[06:48] <twosouls82> thanx :P
[06:48] <tristanmike> add one of those lines to your sources.list file, follow the instructions above that for getting the key, then "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[06:49] <twosouls82> tristanmike: which server did you use?
[06:49] <tristanmike> the first one
[06:49] <twosouls82> thanks
[06:49] <tristanmike> the kubuntu.org one
[06:49] <tristanmike> just passing on the help :)
[06:50] <tristanmike> see what you've started robotgeek :P
[06:57] <pperez> Hello Everyone. Does anyone know where I can read about installing Apache FOP in a Kubuntu machine? Is this supported?
[06:57] <twosouls82> I want to upgrade to 3.5.2 but a lot of packages are held back: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/640263
[06:57] <twosouls82> what should i do to fix it?
[06:57] <robotgeek> pperez: sure, you need java and stuff for it
[06:58] <tristanmike> twosouls82: are you doing a "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" ?
[06:58] <twosouls82> tristanmike:  yes
[06:58] <pperez> robotgeek: adept show no FOP
[06:59] <robotgeek> pperez: no, you need to download and install it from their site
[06:59] <tristanmike> twosouls82: hmmm, I did "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" ...you can try "sudo apt-get -f dist-upgrade"
[06:59] <twosouls82> tristanmike: what does "sudo apt-get -f dist-upgrade" do?
[06:59] <pperez> robotgeek: oh, ok. Can I ask why? Why is this tool not in the repo yet?
[07:00] <tristanmike> twosouls82: "-f" tries to fix broken packages
[07:00] <tristanmike> twosouls82: I just learned that today myself
[07:00] <twosouls82> :)
[07:00] <tristanmike> twosouls82: also paste your sources if you can, just to make sure we don't have anything in there that shouldn't be....
[07:01] <tristanmike> i'll brb, in like 2-4 minuts
[07:01] <twosouls82> okay
[07:01] <robotgeek> pperez: i don't know, java is non-free?
[07:02] <xwolf-> i can't apt-get install mysql-server package... can i download it from somewhere?
[07:02] <twosouls82> tristanmike: sources of what?
[07:03] <pperez> robotgeek: I can see where that makes 'sense'. Thanks for the info.
[07:06] <tristanmike> twosouls82: your source.list file
[07:06] <twosouls82> tristanmike: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/640287
[07:07] <xwolf-> i can't apt-get install mysql-server package... can i download it from somewhere else?
[07:08] <ngirard> Hi guys
[07:08] <ngirard> is it me, or is there a problem with the i386 iso of the latest flight 6 ?
[07:08] <tristanmike> twosouls82: ok, wow, you've got a few things to do...
[07:09] <twosouls82> tristanmike: do I?? what is wrong?
[07:09] <ngirard> I've downloaded & burned this iso:
[07:09] <ngirard>  http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/dapper/flight-6/dapper-install-i386.iso
[07:09] <tristanmike> twosouls82: nothing is "wrong" per se, but you haven't enabled the universe/multiverse yet....
[07:09] <ngirard> and couldn't boot on it
[07:09] <ngirard> I've tried on 2 pcs
[07:09] <ngirard> the md5sum is correct
[07:09] <twosouls82> tristanmike: does that cause it?
[07:10] <tristanmike> twosouls82: not 100% sure, but you will have access to a lot more software ;)
[07:10] <twosouls82> :)
[07:10] <mihai_> i want to print a list of currently logged users and their number of active proccesses
[07:10] <twosouls82> tristanmike: more hints?
[07:10] <exobuzz> dumb question: how do i reboot a mac with linux.. no "del" button..
[07:10] <exobuzz> :-)
[07:10] <tristanmike> twosouls82: ok, here's what I would do.....
[07:10] <twosouls82> :P
[07:13] <robotgeek> exobuzz: sudo reboot
[07:14] <exobuzz> robotgeek: i mean with keyboard shortcut ?
[07:15] <tristanmike> twosouls82: first I would "sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.bak" to make a back up copy of my current sources.list file. Then I would open a blank text document and copy lines 22-30 and lines 35-36 in there, for now (we're going to delete the contents of the whole file after that, but we want to put them back in after we make the adjustments).  The I would go here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047  and copy/paste the en
[07:15] <tristanmike> file, overwriting everything. Then I'd copy the stuff in the text file back into my sources.list file and save and post that on pastebin again so i can make sure it's ok.
[07:20] <twosouls82> tristanmike: if I understood you, this would be ok: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/640312
[07:20] <tristanmike> ...looking
[07:21] <tristanmike> twosouls82: yes, only 1 thing is I'd move the link paste to the top and the original stuff the bottom...make sense ?
[07:21] <twosouls82> yep :P
[07:22] <twosouls82> (bad English ;))
[07:22] <tristanmike> no worries =)
[07:22] <twosouls82> :)
[07:22] <tristanmike> twosouls82: tell me when that's done
[07:22] <twosouls82> tristanmike: now apt-get update?
[07:22] <tristanmike> and make sure that there are no empty lines at the top of the file
[07:23] <twosouls82> no uncommenting?
[07:23] <tristanmike> not needed. the only thing commented now are the "source packages" which you don't need unless you are going to compile Ubuntu software from source, and the Backports and they were commented anyway
[07:24] <tristanmike> twosouls82: now save and exit the file and "sudo apt-get update"
[07:24] <tristanmike> :)
[07:24] <twosouls82> now a dist-upgrade I think?
[07:24] <tristanmike> try a "sudo apt-get upgrade" first
[07:25] <tristanmike> twosouls82: no errors at all ?
[07:25] <twosouls82> :s still held back
[07:25] <tristanmike> try "sudo apt-get -f upgrade"
[07:26] <xwolf-> where can i upgrade libgcc1?
[07:26] <twosouls82> tristanmike: still :'(
[07:26] <tristanmike> twosouls82: and if that doen't work..try "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[07:26] <tristanmike> twosouls82: we'll get it
[07:26] <twosouls82> will we?
[07:26] <tristanmike> twosouls82: we will try our hardest
[07:27] <twosouls82> tristanmike: Houston we made it!!! :D
[07:27] <tristanmike> :)
[07:27] <twosouls82> I love you already :)
[07:27] <tristanmike> it should take 5-10 minutes
[07:27] <twosouls82> thanks for all your time
[07:27] <tristanmike> oh, it's no problem, you'll be rockin' now =)
[07:28] <twosouls82> tristanmike: no other helped so, you're special in some kind of way ;)
[07:28] <tristanmike> twosouls82:  do you have mp3 support and all that stuff? flash, java, embeded movies in your browser ?
[07:28] <twosouls82> tristanmike: also on 64bit?
[07:29] <tristanmike> do'h
[07:29] <tristanmike> no, sorry
[07:29] <twosouls82> haha
[07:29] <twosouls82> haven't tested it yet, in suse i had
[07:29] <twosouls82> tristanmike: on Kanotix I had them through a chroot environment
[07:30] <tristanmike> twosouls82:  you may be able to do that here too, I'm not sure, that's outta my league
[07:30] <tristanmike> I can really only do the basic stuff still, can compile a thing or two :)
[07:30] <twosouls82> tristanmike: that's easier than this was, believe me, just a few commands you need to know of
[07:30] <twosouls82> l)
[07:32] <twosouls82> tristanmike: when I asked this all yesterday, nobody (of 232 people) knew what you just told me
[07:32] <MidMark> hi to all, please help me: how can I activate dma on external usb hard drive plugged in?
[07:32] <tristanmike> twosouls82: you just lucked out, cause I just did it like 5 minutes before you asked me :P
[07:33] <twosouls82> tristanmike: thought I read about it earlier on ;)
[07:33] <twosouls82> :D
[07:34] <tristanmike> :D
[07:34] <twosouls82> tristanmike: .ca is Canada?
[07:34] <tristanmike> yessir =)
[07:35] <frank23> MidMark: You can't activate dma for a usb drive
[07:36] <twosouls82> tristanmike: shall we share an email address so that we can share experiences about Kubuntu64?
[07:37] <tristanmike> twosouls82: dafontster@hotmail.com
[07:37] <tristanmike> twosouls82: throw me on messenger
[07:37] <tristanmike> twosouls82: now you have to log out and log in
[07:37] <twosouls82> just logout and in, no restart?
[07:38] <tristanmike> no restart, just log out, log in
[07:38] <twosouls82> brb, thanx
[07:38] <tristanmike> restart only for Kernel updates, that's it
[07:38] <MidMark> frank23: problem is playing dvd from usb hdd they are slow
[07:38] <tristanmike> twosouls82: wait
[07:38] <twosouls82> I thought also for kdm ;)
[07:38] <twosouls82> and I saw a kernel coming by
[07:39] <twosouls82> atleast, I think so
[07:39] <tristanmike> twosouls82: be aware that if you have a funky configuration on your desktop, you may need to take a minute to make some adjustments
[07:39] <twosouls82> tristanmike: I just did a clean install
[07:39] <twosouls82> :)
[07:39] <tristanmike> your good to go then :)
[07:39] <tristanmike> see ya in a minute
[07:40] <twosouls82> bye
[07:40] <frank23> MidMark: maybe the usb connection to your drive is too slow. did you try copying one to your local drive to try?
[07:43] <Pygi> ok, altought I know the answer to this, I'll still ask...
[07:43] <Pygi> I can't launch an X app when being root.
[07:43] <Pygi> I have to do "sudo xclock" for instance, because if I do "sudo su" and
[07:43] <Pygi> then "xclock", I get "Error: can't open display :0". Even with a
[07:43] <Pygi> previous "xhost +localhost"
[07:43] <twosouls82> tristanmike: hi, me again :P
[07:43] <twosouls82> odd, I had to restart
[07:44] <hardbody> ppl
[07:44] <tristanmike> twosouls82: hey, hey :)
[07:44] <hardbody> alguem portuga?
[07:44] <tristanmike> why /
[07:44] <tristanmike> ?
[07:44] <twosouls82> I came in a console mode and startkde diidn't work
[07:44] <twosouls82> :)
[07:44] <frank23> Pygi: what if you do  xhost +  ?
[07:44] <twosouls82> so, ctrl+alt+del
[07:44] <tristanmike> ahh, that's why
[07:44] <tristanmike> you should use the real logout feature
[07:44] <frank23> !pt
[07:44] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[07:45] <twosouls82> tristanmike:  thanks again mate, now I can enjoy kde 3.5.2 again
[07:45] <Pygi> frank23: not sure, but should it work then?
[07:45] <tristanmike> just passing on the <3
[07:45] <frank23> Pygi: I think xhost + opens up X to anyone
[07:45] <twosouls82> pass the credits on as well then ;)
[07:45] <twosouls82> credits=complis
[07:46] <Pygi> frank23: please try to do what I described up?^_^
[07:46] <twosouls82> tristanmike: do you know where to get a QtCurve package?
[07:47] <tristanmike> twosouls82: what is it ?
[07:47] <frank23> Pygi: I get the same result as you do. xhost + works though
[07:47] <tristanmike> twosouls82: here...?   http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=5065
[07:47] <twosouls82> tristanmike: the most highly configurable and drewable style I know ;)
[07:47] <Pygi> frank23: thanks ^_^
[07:51] <oskari> how i can change my kmenu logo
[07:51] <MidMark> frank23 another question: I don't know why krusader cannot move from external hdd to the same hdd receiving a permission denided, with knqueror works
[07:52] <frank23> MidMark: what is krusader?
[07:52] <MidMark> twin panel file manager
[07:52] <MidMark> http://krusader.sourceforge.net/scr.php
[07:53] <MidMark> the best in my opinion
[07:53] <MidMark> also was asked to put in main for Dapper, don't know the status
[07:53] <tristanmike> I was wondering how to get something like this....
[07:54] <frank23> MidMark: if it works with konqueror, maybe it's a configuration problem with krusader I don't know.
[07:54] <MidMark> yep, but asking to #krusader they said that is a permissions problem... cannot know the true problem
[07:55] <frank23> I you konqueror can do move some file somewhere and krusader cannot do the exact same thing (same file, same move) then it can't be a permission problem
[07:56] <frank23> man I should proofread my replies ;)
[07:56] <MidMark> it's the same thing I have thougth, but they said different things, don't know how to do at this time
[07:57] <Pygi> frank23: may you answer one more question pls? :=)
[07:57] <frank23> Pygi: if I know the answer, yeah ;)
[07:57] <Pygi> In the control panel, you can't even switch
[07:57] <Pygi> language when you have additional locales installed for FR + DE (for
[07:57] <Pygi> instance): only EN shows up as available language.
[07:57] <Pygi> I want a way to have a language and locale attributes linked to the user in
[07:57] <Pygi> the user management
[07:59] <frank23> Pygi: can you go in regional&Accessibility->Country/Region->Addlanguage->Other->list of installed locales?
[08:00] <Pygi> frank23: hm, will that help me link language and locale attributes to a user?
[08:01] <frank23> Pygi: I don't know how to do this in the user management but I think new users should be able to switch permanently using that menu
[08:01] <Pygi> frank23: but I don't want that =P
[08:02] <frank23> Pygi: There must be a way to do that selection when you create the user. in .kde somewhere I'm sure. maybe it has to be done manually. I don't know much about this. I only figured out how to change the kde language yesterday
[08:02] <Pygi> frank23: ah, thanks anyway =P
[08:03] <frank23> Pygi: and I don't think the kde setting changes the OOo settings either.
[08:06] <twosouls82> tristanmike: you have been added to MSN
[08:06] <twosouls82> what is your real name? Mine is Jay Kamminga
[08:07] <tristanmike> twosouls82: it's not a good idea to give real names over irc
[08:07] <twosouls82> fine by me, I am Jay Kamminga ;)
[08:07] <Jaymac> tristanmike..  LOL
[08:08] <Jaymac> anyone can get your real name if they really want to
[08:08] <tristanmike> Jaymac: i know that....a little research never killed anyone
[08:08] <Jaymac> :)
[08:08] <twosouls82> lol :D
[08:09] <tristanmike> you *could* just check my launchpad page...if you wanted to...:P
[08:12] <ehjix> Hi! I have flight 5 on cd. Is it worth while to download flight 6 for 2 hours? Or can I just "aptitude" my way to all the new things that are on flight 6?
[08:12] <robotgeek> ehjix: yes, you can update
[08:12] <tristanmike> ehjix: yeah, you should be able to update fine, well, as fine as a testing release can be :P
[08:13] <ehjix> Thanks robotgeek and tristanmike! I just managed to get knoppix connect over wireless, so I am not sure I can burn flight 6 anyway. I have no other connection.
[08:14] <drbreen> hello
[08:14] <tristanmike> hi :)
[08:14] <ehjix> I am not sure if I can connect over wireless while installing from flight 5. Can I?
[08:14] <drbreen> i want to print something but i am lacking color ink
[08:15] <tristanmike> bah! kopete just crashed!
[08:15] <tristanmike> grrrrr
[08:15] <twosouls82> :s
[08:16] <twosouls82> :)
[08:16] <twosouls82> +t
[08:16] <ehjix> never tried the DHCP connect during installation from a wireless card, anyone did?
[08:16] <drbreen> so where can i change that in kde (want to print monochrome) ?
[08:16] <frank23> ehjix: when I installed flight 4, the installer tried to connect but couldn't
[08:16] <frank23> ehjix: when I installed flight 6*, the installer tried to connect but couldn't
[08:17] <ehjix> I have to set essid and encryption key too...
[08:17] <ehjix> ... to get out
[08:17] <frank23> ehjix: the installer asked for essid and wep key but as I said, it didn't work for me.
[08:17] <ehjix> hmmm... maybe it cant be done
[08:18] <ehjix> frank23, ok, thanks!
[08:18] <frank23> ehjix: what driver does your card use?
[08:19] <ehjix> I am not sure. It is a cisco card
[08:19] <ehjix> very good, a bit old, but strong
[08:19] <frank23> ehjix: did knoppix make it work automatically?
[08:19] <ehjix> more or less yes
[08:20] <ehjix> i set iwconfig stuff as root
[08:20] <frank23> ehjix: the card itself, I mean not the network settings
[08:20] <frank23> ok I'd say there is a chance that the installer works with it
[08:20] <ehjix> there is a "wireless connector" in the knoppix menue
[08:21] <cowboyfeng> Hello
[08:21] <frank23> ehjix: yeah but if it works without tricks like ndiswrapper, it means your card is relatively linux-friendly
[08:21] <ehjix> frank23, "Network Card Configuration"
[08:22] <ehjix> frank23, I got it from a debian guy !
[08:22] <frank23> ehjix: ok. I'm sure he chose wisely then! ;)
[08:22] <ehjix> frank23, yes, a "real hacker"
[08:23] <ehjix> frank23, I think I will abort the burning of flight 6 and try wireless connect in fligt 5 installation
[08:24] <ehjix> frank23, thanks
[08:24] <frank23> ehjix: well to update to flight 6 you will probably have to download as much stuff as to download the cd
[08:24] <ehjix> i never burnt antyhing with knoppix and its 2 hours to go...
[08:25] <ehjix> bye
[08:25] <ehjix> thanks
[08:30] <twosouls82> help :P
[08:30] <tristanmike> BAH! kopete crashed AGAIN!!! Whenever I click Settings
[08:31] <twosouls82> tristanmike: welcome back again
[08:31] <twosouls82> what is the error?
[08:32] <tristanmike> it's long
[08:32] <twosouls82> paste it in the bin, you never know who knows more
[08:32] <tristanmike> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11469
[08:32] <tristanmike> step ahead of you
[08:32] <twosouls82> lol :P
[08:33] <twosouls82> tristanmike: you re using a cam??
[08:33] <tristanmike> no
[08:34] <twosouls82> kee, I knew of problems there with and I saw video somewhere in the output :)
[08:34] <tristanmike> I have a printer and game controller plugged into my usb
[08:34] <nuky> hi, i'm trying to install the xine player cos i can't veiw dvd navigation menu's on mplayer, but when i run it, it skipas a lot and after some googling, i tried running xine-check.. i get this output http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/640470 and i'm not sure how to resolve it because if i uninstall xine-ui, then both of the instances disappear!  i think the xine-config file found message is a result of it assuming that i'm using /usr/bin/X11/xine
[08:34] <nuky> e of the xine's?
[08:34] <nuky> sorry that was so long
[08:35] <tristanmike> nuky: that's fine, it's a question, not a "paste"
[08:35] <twosouls82> tristanmike: try to unplug them to be sure, one of them looks the problem
[08:35] <cowboyfeng> how do I enable quick time?
[08:36] <tristanmike> twosouls82: unplugged, no change, it only crahes on "Settings"
[08:36] <twosouls82> tristanmike: on the Devices tab?
[08:36] <tristanmike> twosouls82: rather, "Settings - Configure"
[08:36] <nuky> i also tried moving the instance in my /usr/bin/X11 and then running xine-check but then it reports that xine is not in my path
[08:36] <twosouls82> :s
[08:36] <twosouls82> that's not good, works fine here, same pc
[08:37] <twosouls82> same distro
[08:37] <twosouls82> same servers
[08:37] <tristanmike> twosouls82: rather..."Settings - Configure...."  the other configures work fine
[08:38] <tristanmike> "Configure Global Shortcuts" works  "Configure Shortcuts" works, just the last one forces a crash
[08:38] <twosouls82> isn't there a developer in the room?
[08:38] <tristanmike> or if I right click on the System Tray Icon, and select Configure, it crashes
[08:39] <twosouls82> odd
[08:39] <tristanmike> yeah, it sucks
[08:39] <twosouls82> what about gaim ;)
[08:39] <twosouls82> can't she msn?
[08:39] <tristanmike> ....she....?
[08:40] <twosouls82> gaim => she
[08:40] <twosouls82> :D
[08:40] <tristanmike> ahhh
[08:40] <tristanmike> yeah, but it's gtk, not qt, so it's not pretty :P
[08:40] <twosouls82> tristanmike: try QtCurve for yourself ;)
[08:40] <twosouls82> makes even GTK apps look nice
[08:44] <gix> buona sera
[08:44] <gix> c'e qualche italiano??
[08:44] <juliomam> Is it secure (stable) to install KDE 3.5.2 from the repositories listed in kubuntu site? I am using breezy(5.10) and I also already did a dist-upgrade from oficial reps.
[08:46] <gix> i've the dapper
[08:46] <gix> and i have install kde 3.5.2 from repo
[08:46] <gix> and all is ok
[08:46] <robotgeek> juliomam: yes
[08:46] <gix> but now the repository is down
[08:47] <juliomam> thanks robotgeek
[08:47] <gix> Failed to fetch http://it.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-backports/multiverse/source/Sources.gz  302 Found
[08:47] <gix> who know this problem?
[08:48] <robotgeek> gix: there are no dapper backports
[08:48] <gix> ok
[08:48] <gix> Failed to fetch http://it.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  302 Found
[08:48] <gix> here there is the same problem
[08:49] <gix> and idem for the rest of repository
[08:49] <gix> :(
[08:49] <robotgeek> gix: change repository
[08:49] <gix> how i find another?
[08:51] <robotgeek> gix: maybe repository is taking time to sync, use us.archive maybe?
[08:51] <juliomam> gix: maybe --> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Archive
[08:52] <juliomam> I took the brazilian ones from there.
[08:56] <vge> what was the command to know what kernel i have?
[08:56] <robotgeek> uname -r
[08:56] <vge> ty
[09:01] <vge> 2.6.12-10-386
[09:01] <vge> well, the next question is, how to update 2.6.12-10-386 to 2.6.12-10-386 :P
[09:02] <dipnlik> hi all. is there an autocad version / equivalent program for kubuntu?
[09:04] <nalla> anyone there willing to help out a noob?
[09:04] <berkes_> hello hello
[09:05] <dipnlik> nalla: just ask your question
[09:05] <nalla> well
[09:05] <berkes_> ive been hunting for kmplayer debs for some weeks. The only ones that seems somehow supported and stable are debian SID ones. And they are not compatible with Breezy.
[09:06] <nalla> kubuntu wont boot kde
[09:06] <nalla> im on my machine right now with knoppix
[09:06] <dipnlik> :-O
[09:07] <nalla> i get not gui at all it boots to the command line badger thing
[09:07] <nalla> ive tried a few things i saw in forums "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg (and kdm)"
[09:07] <berkes_> does anyone know any nice Kmplayer resources
[09:07] <berkes_> ?
[09:07] <nalla> "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start (and restart)
[09:08] <dipnlik> nalla: i don't know how to help, sorry... :(
[09:09] <nalla> any ideas?
[09:09] <nalla> at all?
[09:09] <vge> !kernel
[09:10] <dipnlik> nalla: i'm kinda new to linux too, if it was me i would search forums and stay in the channel for some time
[09:10] <dipnlik> nalla: it neither worked for let's say 2 or 3 days, reinstall. but this is me.
[09:11] <dipnlik> nalla: try asking here again when the channel becomes more active
[09:11] <nalla> k thx
[09:11] <nalla> any idea when itll be more active?
[09:13] <dipnlik> well, 4PM here in Brazil, and i see the channel very active in the morning
[09:17] <mluser-work> Does anyone here happen to know which kde package allows me to see preview icons of movie files in konqueror?
[09:17] <robotgeek> mluser-work: i think that's a konq option
[09:18] <mluser-work> robotgeek: it is, but I see previews for everything except movie files
[09:19] <robotgeek> mluser-work: there was a size option, maybe codecs (not sure)
[09:20] <mluser-work> robotgeek: Yes, and I already set it to the max size which sais 100MB
[09:20] <mluser-work> *says
[09:22] <robotgeek> mluser-work: what files are you trying to preview? can you play them?
[09:23] <m5m> erg; my touchpad laptop mouse keeps freezing and I have to completely reboot to get it back... unfortunately my usb-mouse loses connectivity after a few moments of use... does anyone have ideas of where to start troubleshooting an INspiron 8100 touchpad & why it might be losing touch with Kubuntu?
[09:24] <mluser-work> robotgeek: Yes, 1 is a mov file and the other is an avi, I can play them both fine in xine and mplayer
[09:29] <tristanmike> I having a problem with kopete crashing on me any time I select "Configure...." from either "Settings-Configure..." or right clicking the icon in the task bar and selecting it. I have the backtrace file....but I don't really know where to go from here, any help would be appreciated, thanx in advance.
[09:30] <tristanmike> I have also upgraded to KDE 3.5.2 recently to try to combat this issue, it hasn't been resolved
[09:31] <torre> hola
[09:31] <tristanmike> hi :)
[09:31] <dipnlik> tristanmike: you mean kopete can crash simply by going to settings / configure?
[09:32] <torre> algun espaol por aqui
[09:32] <crimsun> #kubuntu-es
[09:32] <tristanmike> dipnlik: yes
[09:32] <twosouls82> 1nl
[09:32] <twosouls82> !nl
[09:32] <ubotu> Op #ubuntu-nl staat de koffie al voor je klaar.
[09:32] <dipnlik> tristanmike: oh sad :(
[09:32] <tristanmike> dipnlik: that's the only one it seems to crash on...and it is something that happens everytime
[09:33] <twosouls82> tristanmike: you could remove all of the settings in the kopete folder ...
[09:33] <twosouls82> have you tried that?
[09:33] <AbeDodgers> i have to run a script every time a new user has logged it... any ideas?
[09:33] <tristanmike> twosouls82: I'm looking for that folder now
[09:33] <robotgeek> tristanmike: doesn't crash for me
[09:34] <robotgeek> tristanmike: i am on dapper, though
[09:34] <tristanmike> I know, doesn't crash for most I'm sure :(
[09:34] <twosouls82> ~/.kde/share/apps/kopete/
[09:34] <tristanmike> robotgeek: then you're no help :P
[09:34] <tristanmike> robotgeek: just kiddin' :P
[09:34] <cycus_zwisus> who wants nicer fonts in gtk1 apps?
[09:34] <twosouls82> I do
[09:34] <tristanmike> twosouls82: delete that whole directory?
[09:35] <robotgeek> who runs gtk1 apps anymore :)
[09:35] <twosouls82> yep
[09:35] <twosouls82> mplayer robotgeek
[09:35] <twosouls82> tristanmike: yep
[09:36] <tristanmike> nope, still crashes
[09:38] <twosouls82> tristanmike: :'(
[09:39] <robotgeek> twosouls82: can you turn off public aways and arrivals, please?
[09:39] <tristanmike> twosouls82: you're using a different version anyway, your on 64
[09:40] <twosouls82> tristanmike: guess so
[09:40] <twosouls82> robotgeek: where to disable it?
[09:40] <vge> does prepatch version of a kernel somehow different from using a "full" version of kernel?
[09:41] <crimsun> vge: a what?
[09:41] <m5m> ?mpm
[09:41] <robotgeek> twosouls82: what client are you using? konversation? check in prefernces
[09:41] <twosouls82> robotgeek: can't find it there
[09:42] <m5m> crimsun: what would you do if your touchpad kept malfunctioning and the cursor was frozen on the screen?
[09:42] <Kyral> vge: you mean from Kernel.org?
[09:42] <vge> crimsun: http://kernel.org/patchtypes/pre.html <-- what does this say to you?
[09:42] <vge> Kyral: yes
[09:42] <robotgeek> kpaolo: turn off plblic away, please
[09:42] <Kyral> vge: you apply them to the source tree of the previous version
[09:43] <vge> "right"
[09:43] <crimsun> vge: they're very much still full kernels, just development versions.
[09:43] <Kyral> or not lol
[09:43] <vge> naah, i would very mutch like to do that
[09:43] <crimsun> vge: that terminology is outdated for 2.6, btw. Linus no longer makes pres.
[09:43] <vge> icic
[09:44] <crimsun> m5m: I would investigate the touchpad driver first, then the X server (driver)
[09:44] <MacAnthony> kubuntu.org site down?
[09:44] <crimsun> seems up to me
[09:45] <MacAnthony> never mind - 3rd refresh worked
[09:45] <vge> so, i can follow n+1 "how to install kernel" with that kernel version too?
[09:45] <crimsun> what are you referring to?
[09:45] <vge> 2.6.17-rc1 i guess
[09:45] <crimsun> you'd apply 17-rc1 to 16
[09:46] <vge> ?
[09:46] <pradeepto> MacAnthony: yo!
[09:46] <MacAnthony> hey pradeepto
[09:47] <m5m> crimsun: where can I find my touchpad driver? do you think I can kill/restart it via the terminal?
[09:47] <crimsun> m5m: restart gdm/kdm
[09:47] <crimsun> /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input/synaptics_drv.so
[09:47] <m5m> crimsun: cntrl+alt+backspace? to restart kdm?  or just type restart kdm?
[09:48] <vge> crimsun: so if my kernel is 2.6.12-10-386 i cant use that version?
[09:48] <crimsun> m5m: ctrl+alt+backspace may work
[09:48] <twosouls82> tristanmike: I restarted and now I have the menu items :s
[09:48] <crimsun> vge: you can apply the 2.6.17-rc1 patch to pristine upstream 2.6.16 source
[09:48] <crimsun> vge: why do you want 2.6.17-rc1?
[09:49] <vge> bcm43xx NEEDS kernel 2.6.16 or higher <-- well i need something
[09:49] <tristanmike> twosouls82: funny
[09:49] <twosouls82> :P
[09:49] <vge> i dont know what atm sry :)
[09:49] <twosouls82> lol
[09:51] <tristanmike> twosouls82: looks like I may just compile kopete
[09:51] <twosouls82> tristanmike: whise choice, saves a lot of time
[09:52] <asimov> What is the eisist way to install firefox?
[09:53] <twosouls82> asimov: apt-get install firefox
[09:53] <asimov> Will that install the newest version?
[09:53] <robotgeek> asimov, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[09:54] <twosouls82> adept doesn't listen to root's font settings here
[09:54] <asimov> So I have to install the old version then update it?
[09:56] <m5m> crimsun: restarting kdm didn't unfreeze my cursor... this happens about once per hour now.... I have to reboot completely and the usb-mouse doesn't work either because it too loses contact after a short period...  I don't have a /xorg/ dir inside of /usr/lib/ any other ideas about how to fix my touchpad/mouse drivers?  is there a wiki page I should read up on?
[09:56] <asimov> what about compiling it?
[09:58] <_manu38_> bonsoir
[09:58] <vge> asimov:  i think firefox dont have any sources to compile from
[09:58] <_manu38_> good evening
[09:58] <asimov> THere is a page in the wiki
[09:59] <twosouls82> do I quickly restart x with ctrl+alt+backspace?
[10:00] <_manu38_> Can I do record a webradio whith Kubuntu Kde ??
[10:00] <twosouls82> _manu38_: kstreamripper
[10:01] <_manu38_> thanks !!!
[10:01] <twosouls82> :)
[10:01] <gleesond> can some one help me get my sound working? I push the test sound and there is nothing
[10:01] <gleesond> it was working untill I upgragded to dapper
[10:03] <_manu38_> thanks you very much Twosouls82 !!!!
[10:04] <_manu38_> thanks you very much Twosouls82 !!!!
[10:05] <twosouls82> _manu38_: you are welcome, I use it too
[10:05] <twosouls82> to make backups :P
[10:06] <twosouls82> tristanmike: is the compiling working out allright?
[10:06] <_manu38_> I want to record a personnal message on a webradio ( www.frequence3.fr )
[10:07] <twosouls82> tristanmike: instead of "make install" use "checkinstall" first install checkinstall
[10:07] <tristanmike> twosouls82: of course, I wouldn't have it any other way ;)
[10:07] <twosouls82> :P
[10:08] <tristanmike> twosouls82: I've compiled VLC, that was a [un-CoC friendly remark]  to install
[10:08] <tristanmike> :P
[10:09] <twosouls82> ;)
[10:09] <tristanmike> I have 2 nice guides if you want em
[10:09] <twosouls82> first I have to solve a bug in Konqueror
[10:11] <twosouls82> I have two `Search for Google-textboxes` in Konqueror, I want to -but can not- remove it
[10:11] <twosouls82> how do I do this?
[10:12] <twosouls82> it's not in the Customisaton dialogue
[10:12] <Snake__> twosouls82: kde 3.5.2?
[10:12] <twosouls82> yep
[10:12] <Snake__> twosouls82: you can configure your menubars, I too had that problem
[10:12] <Snake__> twosouls82: Settings: Toolbar
[10:13] <Snake__> Err no
[10:13] <twosouls82> Snake__: how? their not there
[10:13] <Snake__> twosouls82: click "Setting" then "Configure toolbars"
[10:13] <twosouls82> I did, no google textboxes there
[10:14] <Snake__> twosouls82: I cant remember exactly what its called, but its not Google Textboxes, look for two entrys of something
[10:14] <twosouls82> kee
[10:15] <tristanmike> Google Suggest Toolbar ?
[10:15] <twosouls82> not there
[10:15] <twosouls82> nothing has to do with google :s
[10:16] <dipnlik> twosouls82: something listed twice?
[10:16] <Snake__> twosouls82: just keep hunting man, it has NOTHING to do with google, thats all I can remeber, I know there is one toolbar in there somewhere that has something you need to get rid of
[10:16] <Snake__> I wish I could remeber which it was :(
[10:16] <twosouls82> but I only have the Location toolbar visible
[10:17] <Snake__> its not just the location toolbar, I believe its actually 2 toolbars next to each other
[10:17] <Snake__> Trust me, its a b1tch to get it, but I know its in them configs
[10:17] <twosouls82> owww
[10:17] <twosouls82> I'll look harder, first I'll role a J to come with it :P
[10:18] <Snake__> lol
[10:18] <Snake__> twosouls82: Im right, its 2 seperate bars, if you edit the "loction" bar, it says nothing about a search, yet the google bar is still ther
[10:19] <Snake__> and its not the search toolbar
[10:19] <twosouls82> Snake__: I will look further... J is finished, ahhhh :)
[10:20] <tristanmike> twosouls82: a "j"....you are my new best friend :P
[10:20] <__filip_> Can i import my bockmarks and all that from firefox to konqueror?
[10:20] <tristanmike> I love compiling that program :P
[10:20] <twosouls82> tristanmike: that's why I love my little country
[10:21] <twosouls82> lol
[10:21] <twosouls82> Germany tristanmike ? :s
[10:21] <tristanmike> sure, what ever, sounds good to me
[10:21] <twosouls82> no Js there ;)
[10:22] <vge> where can i get a kernelpagage for  2.6.17-rc1?
[10:22] <twosouls82> Snake__: thanks, it was the searchbar
[10:23] <twosouls82> tristanmike: did the compile work?
[10:23] <tristanmike> twosouls82: working on it
[10:23] <tristanmike> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11471
[10:23] <twosouls82> :) thought you were quiter ;)
[10:23] <Snake__> twosouls82: oh was it? alright
[10:24] <tristanmike> twosouls82: I meant move into the building next to yours not the country
[10:24] <twosouls82> tristanmike: can see
[10:24] <_manu38_> and......
[10:24] <twosouls82> tristanmike: :P
[10:24] <twosouls82> that's also called next door isn't it?
[10:25] <twosouls82> or only abbroad?
[10:26] <_manu38_> How to listen my record because it is in *.mp3
[10:26] <tristanmike> I just thought you missunderstood cause you said germany
[10:26] <tristanmike> !mp3
[10:26] <Glin|Jol> Winamp  5.20 Stopped
[10:26] <tristanmike> !+mp3
[10:26] <twosouls82> lol
[10:26] <twosouls82> no bot?
[10:26] <twosouls82> !lame
[10:26] <tristanmike> no ubotu :(
[10:26] <dipnlik> twosouls82: ubotu is off
[10:26] <Snake__> Wtf where did ubotu gooo
[10:26] <_manu38_> winamp  with  Kubuntu ?????????????
[10:27] <twosouls82> dipnlik: why?
[10:27] <twosouls82> _manu38_: no
[10:27] <_manu38_> ah yes !!!!!
[10:27] <Snake__> _manu38_: doesnt work pal
[10:27] <dipnlik> twosouls82: dunno. it's off :S
[10:27] <_manu38_> so, I don't listen my record !! ?
[10:28] <Snake__> _manu38_: please stop with the super punctution !!!!! #1.
[10:28] <twosouls82> _manu38_: I am new to Kubuntu, just installed
[10:28] <AbeDodgers> i want to check if 2 files (f1 f2) are different and file 1 is larger than file 2 than execute some code
[10:28] <Snake__> _manu38_: and number 2, you can play it with amarok, is it a MP3?
[10:28] <_manu38_> woops sory
[10:28] <tristanmike> _manu38_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:28] <AbeDodgers> any ideas?
[10:28] <AbeDodgers> ?
[10:28] <tristanmike> AbeDodgers: man diff
[10:28] <_manu38_> yes, it is a mp3
[10:28] <Snake__> _manu38_: when you get used to amarok, I think youll agree it is probly as good as, if not better than winamp
[10:28] <AbeDodgers> tristanmike, i know about diff, but what about the integration with the shell scripting?
[10:29] <Snake__> _manu38_: then read that restricted formats page tristanmike just gave you, and itll set you up
[10:29] <AbeDodgers> i mean i want to put it in a if
[10:29] <tristanmike> um.....diff compares two files....that's all I know
[10:29] <leeghoofd> hey, I just updated to dapper and installed network-manager-kde, but the thing in the systray says it's not running while I see network-manager starts ok on boot, do you know what this problem is or where I can find logs?
[10:29] <_manu38_> ok
[10:30] <vge> soo, can somebody advice what i need to do if i need to install  2.6.17-rc1 kernel?
[10:30] <twosouls82> is gstreamer hot on Kubuntu? arts and xine were at suse
[10:30] <Snake__> twosouls82: gstreamer is a POS
[10:30] <twosouls82> hoi alweer leeghoofd
[10:30] <twosouls82> POS as in...
[10:30] <Snake__> yes as in COC. :)
[10:30] <leeghoofd> hey twosouls82 :-)
[10:31] <leeghoofd> twosouls82: just back from work :)
[10:31] <twosouls82> :P leeghoofd lekker gewerkt? good day at work?
[10:31] <leeghoofd> twosouls82: yep :)
[10:31] <twosouls82> nice, to hear that, welcome back man
[10:32] <leeghoofd> thanks
[10:32] <leeghoofd> the kaffeine icon still is there ;)
[10:32] <leeghoofd> but I don't think it's in the desktop files
[10:32] <twosouls82> hahah lol
[10:32] <twosouls82> what was that third file?
[10:32] <twosouls82> it isn't?
[10:32] <twosouls82> is should
[10:33] <twosouls82> it*
[10:33] <leeghoofd> ok, I don't know which files I showed so I will cat and post them again :)
[10:33] <twosouls82> leeghoofd: could you? and than all three ;)
[10:34] <twosouls82> :)
[10:34] <twosouls82> try this leeghoofd: kfind, find "Kaffeine.desktop"
[10:34] <twosouls82> or *kaffeine.desktop
[10:35] <leeghoofd> twosouls82: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11472
[10:35] <leeghoofd> twosouls82: I used updatedb and locate :)
[10:35] <twosouls82> :)
[10:35] <twosouls82> smart of yo
[10:35] <twosouls82> u
[10:36] <leeghoofd> I had the multimedia? repo in my list and installed all kind of plugins and mplayer etc, I think that messed it up
[10:37] <twosouls82> leeghoofd: it has nothing to do with that files, confirmation
[10:37] <leeghoofd> twosouls82: ok thanks
[10:37] <twosouls82> sorry
[10:38] <leeghoofd> np, thanks for your help  )
[10:38] <twosouls82> leeghoofd: if I were in your neighbourhood I would have come to see it for my own
[10:39] <leeghoofd> twosouls82: hehe :)
[10:39] <twosouls82> leeghoofd, I use Xfce's window manager in KDE
[10:40] <twosouls82> better windecos
[10:40] <leeghoofd> twosouls82: why?
[10:40] <leeghoofd> aah ok
[10:40] <twosouls82> you should try it
[10:40] <twosouls82> :D
[10:40] <leeghoofd> I like the plastik, which I use now
[10:40] <leeghoofd> but it's really ugly when a window is maximized
[10:40] <Snake__> Smoothblend FTW
[10:40] <twosouls82> I use Xfce's default
[10:40] <leeghoofd> does anyone knwo how to prevent that, it's like the borders all around are gone when miximizing?
[10:40] <twosouls82> atleast I did in suse
[10:41] <leeghoofd> yeah, xfce has really nice win decos
[10:41] <twosouls82> leeghoofd: use SUSE2
[10:41] <twosouls82> leeghoofd: windeco I mean
[10:42] <leeghoofd> twosouls82: no, I like aptitude too much :p
[10:42] <leeghoofd> that's a win deco? I will try it
[10:42] <twosouls82> ;)
[10:42] <leeghoofd> I guess I have to download it?
[10:43] <leeghoofd> hehe
[10:43] <tristanmike> I try to convince everyone on K/Ubuntu :P
[10:43] <twosouls82> leeghoofd: kde-look.org
[10:43] <twosouls82> tristanmike: lol
[10:43] <tristanmike> I beat people with Ubuntu CD's just so they know
[10:43] <twosouls82> hahaha
[10:43] <twosouls82> lol
[10:44] <tristanmike> I file the edges down so they're razor sharp and I use them as throwing disks when I'm fighting crime at night, but that's enough, i've already said too much.
[10:44] <nutshell42> leeghoofd: kde has a setting that you can still resize maximized windows, if that's set the window borders stay the same afaik
[10:44] <leeghoofd> hehe, I always used distros like archlinux, gentoo etc, but (windows) people often asked me what linux distro to try and I could never give a answer because I only knew the hard to install distros, so that' why I tried a user friendly dfistro
[10:44] <twosouls82> :)
[10:44] <vge> to install 2.6.17-rc1 do i first need to install 2.6.16.1?
[10:44] <leeghoofd> and I really like it :)
[10:45] <leeghoofd> nutshell42: thanks, I will look for it
[10:45] <twosouls82> leeghoofd: this is even friendlier than SUSE, I didn't had to select my Hardware at all
[10:45] <twosouls82> not that that is so hard
[10:46] <twosouls82> ;)
[10:46] <leeghoofd> hehe, no, the only problem I have is network problems
[10:46] <xwolf-> http://hashmysql.org/1658 <--- any help please?
[10:47] <twosouls82> leeghoofd: ben nog niet zover ;)
[10:47] <vge>  to install 2.6.17-rc1 do i first need to install 2.6.16.1? spaaam :P
[10:47] <nutshell42> leeghoofd: it's a checkbox in title bar->right-click->windows behaviour->moving
[10:47] <leeghoofd> one time I say a really nice kdm splash in kubuntu, with powered by gnu/linux at the bottom egraved, but it's gone now, does anyone know which I mean?
[10:47] <nutshell42> and it does what I thought it did
[10:47] <nutshell42> just tried it
[10:48] <_manu38_> thank you for all - good evening
[10:48] <leeghoofd> thanks that worked, looks much better now :)
[10:49] <nutshell42> np
[11:04] <Danny> is there any way to add things to the kde bar at the bottom?
[11:05] <vge> to install kernel 2.6.17-rc1 do i first need to install kernel 2.6.16.1?
[11:06] <leeghoofd> Danny: yes, click right on an empthy spot, and then "Add Applet to Panel"
[11:06] <Danny> ok thanks
[11:06] <Danny> also
[11:06] <Danny> I just installed firefox via automatix
[11:07] <Danny> where would it be located?
[11:07] <leeghoofd> sorry, I don't know about automatic, I jsut use the default package manager, I would guess it's in the start menu -> internet
[11:08] <zaaterbuntu> slt
[11:09] <sean> what is slt?
[11:13] <sean> google says nothing anout slt
[11:14] <twosouls82> people, I am missing "crt1.o", which package should it get?
[11:16] <twosouls82> I've got it "libgl1-mesa-dev"
[11:16] <twosouls82> :)
[11:25] <_pablo> hoal
[11:25] <_pablo> hola
[11:35] <twosouls82> what if I want a newer version of Gimp than 2.2.8, do I need to recompile it?
[11:36] <mrproper> i have a strange question regarding my graphics card!
[11:36] <sean> the ratio of people "coming and leaving" to "talking"  is nearly 15/1!
[11:36] <sean> what's your question
[11:36] <twosouls82> :)
[11:36] <leeghoofd> sean: that's maybe because konversation defaults to autoconnect to #kubuntu
[11:36] <sean> 2souls, are you using breezy or dapper?
[11:37] <mrproper> sean. in xorg.conf its listed as "vesa" (i have a via card), but in systemsettings it says my computer uses the "via" driver how can this be?
[11:37] <sean> leeghoofd, does that change the way it displays people coming and leaving?
[11:38] <sean> mrproper, I bet that the systemsettings is wrong. I _think_ xorg uses only it conf file
[11:38] <leeghoofd> sean: no, just trying to give an explenation why so much coming and leaving instead of talking
[11:39] <sean> twosouls82, breezy can use breezy-backports, as for dapper, I would wait a few minutes, they are usually prudent.
[11:39] <mrproper> sean, that what i thought =) thanks.
[11:39] <sean> see ya later!
[11:39] <twosouls82> sean: I am using Breezy
[11:40] <twosouls82> but what are backports?
[11:40] <leeghoofd> twosouls82: it's a repo you can add to your /etc/apt/sources.list file for newer apps
[11:41] <leeghoofd> twosouls82: but I haven't used it myself
[11:41] <twosouls82> which one do you have added?
[11:41] <twosouls82> :P
[11:41] <twosouls82> leeghoofd:  where to find them?
[11:41] <twosouls82> those backport
[11:41] <twosouls82> s
[11:42] <leeghoofd> twosouls82: I think you can just add backports to the sources lines, like:
[11:42] <leeghoofd> deb ftp://nl.ftp.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted universe
[11:42] <leeghoofd> and then add backports to the end
[11:42] <leeghoofd> but I don't know what command to use to get a file from backports
[11:42] <twosouls82> to the end and not for dapper? ;)
[11:43] <leeghoofd> twosouls82: yep :)
[11:47] <tristanmike> twosouls82: you have the backports
[11:48] <tristanmike> twosouls82: remember the stuff we did today
[11:48] <twosouls82> leeghoofd: thanks, no newer gimp though (I will compile it)
[11:49] <twosouls82> tristanmike: indeed, but I did hear you talk about backports :)
[11:49] <tristanmike> twosouls82: did you add anything to your sources.list ?
[11:49] <twosouls82> yep
[11:49] <tristanmike> twosouls82: remove it
[11:49] <twosouls82> why?
[11:50] <tristanmike> twosouls82: backports..?
[11:50] <tristanmike> twosouls82: is that what you added ?
[11:50] <twosouls82> yes
[11:50] <twosouls82> I was told to
[11:50] <frank23> is sourceforge down?
[11:50] <tristanmike> right, you have them already in your sources.list file, what you have now is redundent
[11:51] <tristanmike> twosouls82: paste your sources and I'll show you
[11:51] <leeghoofd> twosouls82: hey don't tell him it was my fault :-)
[11:52] <twosouls82> leeghoofd: I couldn't, even if I would ;)
[11:52] <twosouls82> leeghoofd: nothing is wrong though
[11:52] <vinboy> someone is getting fired
[11:52] <tristanmike> leeghoofd: it's ok
[11:52] <docta_v> any real reason i shouldn't run dapper...it has packages i want that breezy doesn't have
[11:52] <docta_v> is it pretty stable? anyone in here using it?
[11:52] <tristanmike> docta_v: it can break at any moment
[11:52] <docta_v> doh
[11:52] <twosouls82> tristanmike: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/640949
[11:52] <leeghoofd> docta_v: I use it but it's not perfect yet
[11:53] <leeghoofd> docta_v: but I'm happy with it :)
[11:53] <frank23> hmm.. this is the first time ubotu isn't here...
[11:53] <docta_v> yea but there's no OTR package for breezy and the damn thing won't compile
[11:53] <vinboy> when r they gonna release the proper version of dapper?
[11:53] <leeghoofd> first of june
[11:53] <vinboy> ic
[11:54] <twosouls82> vinboy: use Breezy untill then :)
[11:54] <vinboy> twosouls82: yup... breezy is good
[11:54] <tristanmike> twosouls82: ok, do you see the lines you have added ?
[11:54] <twosouls82> yep
[11:54] <vinboy> wat sound does kubuntu uses?
[11:54] <vinboy> alsa? oss?
[11:54] <tristanmike> twosouls82: ....what happend to the sources.list we had eariler ?
[11:55] <tristanmike> twosouls82: that shouldn't be your sources.list
[11:55] <leeghoofd> vinboy: alsa, it's the kernel default nowadays
[11:55] <twosouls82> tristanmike: I only added the backports
[11:55] <vinboy> leeghoofd: oh ic... i heard that there is a newer one
[11:55] <twosouls82> the rest was good you asid
[11:55] <twosouls82> asid=said
[11:56] <tristanmike> twosouls82: what happened to this sources.list http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/640312
[11:56] <twosouls82> tristanmike: never had that one :P
[11:57] <lubo> hello, can anyone please tell how to make KWIFIManager join predefined network and fetch IP from dhcp after system boots up?
[11:57] <tristanmike> twosouls82: yes you did, it's your paste
[11:57] <word> I'm installing an FTP program called Kasablanca and I'm getting this error -  "checking for KDE... configure: error: in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail. So, check this please and use another prefix!"
[11:57] <twosouls82> hahah lol
[11:57] <frank23> who runs ubotu?
[11:57] <tristanmike> twosouls82: Posted by twosouls82 on Tue 4th Apr 18:19
[11:57] <twosouls82> tristanmike: it late (2006-04-04 23:57:34)
[11:57] <twosouls82> "D
[11:57] <word> any idea what's wrong?
[11:58] <tristanmike> twosouls82: lol, so do you have the sources.list I just showed you ?
[11:58] <twosouls82> tristanmike: i dunno, I did nothing
[11:58] <frank23> word: you need kde development libraries
[11:58] <twosouls82> tristanmike: have it
[11:58] <tristanmike> twosouls82: ok, so this..."nano /etc/apt/sources.list"
[11:58] <word> I thought I had them...I'll look quick
[11:58] <twosouls82> tristanmike: I used Gentoo, I know nano :P
[11:58] <tristanmike> twosouls82: :)
[11:59] <tristanmike> twosouls82: is that file that comes up the same as the the link I just gave you? do they match ?
[11:59] <twosouls82> tristanmike: not at all
[12:00] <twosouls82> tristanmike: I replaced it again
[12:00] <twosouls82> and did apt-get update
[12:00] <frank23> word: install kde-devel
[12:01] <tristanmike> twosouls82: so this http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/640312  is your sources.list now ?
[12:01] <lampshade> Is KDE's font really smaller than gnomes?  I installed KDE ontop of an already installed gnome ubuntu box, and I've noticed that everything font wise, etc is smaller in KDE,  is that normal?  In some cases it is so small it makes things hard to read and I have normal eyesight
[12:01] <twosouls82> tristanmike: confimative, thanks
[12:01] <Danny> how do I install thunderbird
[12:01] <leeghoofd> lampshade: start->settings->appearance->font
[12:01] <tristanmike> twosouls82: ok, I want you to do something else...
[12:01] <word> Thanks frank, it's installing like 20 different things o.O
[12:02] <Danny> I did apt-get mozilla-thunderbird
[12:02] <frank23> lampshade: you can change the font size if you want
[12:02] <Danny> and it downloaded
[12:02] <Danny> is it installed?
[12:02] <Danny> er
[12:02] <leeghoofd> lampshade: there you can adjust it, I don't know if it's normal, by me the fonts are ok in kde by default
[12:02] <twosouls82> tristanmike: and that may be?
[12:02] <tristanmike> twosouls82: "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list"  do this command
[12:02] <lampshade> leeghoofd, but is that the default?  I guess by default are things smaller or is something messed up somewhere?
[12:02] <lampshade> hmm
[12:02] <Danny> *apt-get install mozilla-thunderbird
[12:02] <frank23> word: yeah
[12:02] <tristanmike> twosouls82: the sources.list file is the one I linked you to, right ?
[12:03] <twosouls82> tristanmike: now it is