| Sergi0 | guys, anyone knows if edubuntu does mix with the mythtv project? basicly a backend setup on the server will not be hard, but using a frontend on a thinclient, will that be hard or am totaly wrong here and will work? | 12:15 |
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| Burgwork | Sergi0, hmm, that would be interesting. No idea | 12:15 |
| ogra | Sergi0, i was planning something like that, yes | 12:16 |
| ogra | it will work with some tweaks to ltsp | 12:16 |
| Sergi0 | well, thats just my point :) in my schooltime we did watch tv (recorded stuff and live) so for schools it would be great, and a big bonus for using edubuntu in the school | 12:16 |
| ogra | the problem is the transfer of the video in the thin client network | 12:17 |
| Sergi0 | it is? | 12:17 |
| ogra | did you try to run a totem videostream on a thin client ? | 12:17 |
| ogra | if you dont run it locally on the client it gets very bad | 12:18 |
| Sergi0 | ehm nope, i've planning a test setup, but nothing edubuntu so far. but the project itself interest me somehow | 12:18 |
| ogra | (chppy) | 12:18 |
| Sergi0 | ah | 12:18 |
| ogra | you need to run it locally, which isnt supported yet ... | 12:18 |
| ogra | but i was planning to implement a ltsp kiosk mode for dapper+1 or +2, there you will be able to just tell the client what app to run | 12:19 |
| Sergi0 | so at this point streaming on a ltsp network is just a nono | 12:19 |
| ogra | (merely for internet cafes that only need a fullscreen browser, but not limited to that) | 12:20 |
| Sergi0 | ah well thats cool too | 12:20 |
| ogra | so you could just run mythtv locally on the thin client instead of a browser | 12:20 |
| ogra | but thats all still in planning state ... | 12:21 |
| Sergi0 | but u got me right here? just using the mythtv-frontend will not work? | 12:21 |
| ogra | as well as full thick clients (complete diskless PCs that boot off the ltsp server) | 12:21 |
| ogra | i'm not a mythtv user, but i suspect just using the frontend will eat a lot of bandwith ... that will need testing etc .. i cant say anything yet | 12:22 |
| ogra | but its in any case planned for either the october or the next april release | 12:23 |
| ogra | (as time permits) | 12:23 |
| Sergi0 | hmmm but a backend server setup on the edubuntu server will be okay, and maybe just one machine (a hdd install) with tv-out could use the frontend | 12:23 |
| ogra | try it ;) | 12:23 |
| Sergi0 | u got right about the bandwith, thats a big isue | 12:23 |
| Sergi0 | well, maybe ill just test something withing the next few days or so, ill let u know if anything works | 12:25 |
| ogra | thatd be cool :) | 12:26 |
| Sergi0 | thx for the info | 12:27 |
| Burgwork | ogra, littlewizard just hit debian | 12:29 |
| Burgwork | as did mediawiki 1.5 | 12:29 |
| ogra | hmm | 12:29 |
| ogra | whats littlewizard ? | 12:29 |
| ogra | Sergi0, thanks for the suggestion :) | 12:29 |
| Burgwork | http://littlewizard.sourceforge.net/ <-- we looked at it a while back | 12:30 |
| ogra | oh, yes, quite a while :) | 12:30 |
| Burgwork | your memory is going. It has only been two or so months :) | 12:31 |
| Sergi0 | btw one last thingie for now, are any of the children tools/games etc etc desent translated into dutch? | 12:31 |
| Burgwork | Sergi0, you can help translate them | 12:32 |
| ogra | gcompris is still missing a -nl soundpackage ... | 12:33 |
| Sergi0 | Burgwork: i will, just curious if there is any around. (im dislectic btw :P ) could'nt hurt to try :) | 12:34 |
| ogra | not sure about the state of the tux4kids or kdeedu stuff | 12:34 |
| ogra | we could just merge -de and -en to get dutch for gcompris ;P | 12:34 |
| Burgwork | kdeedu seems to have dutch work | 12:35 |
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| Sergi0 | guess ill find out when i do some testing, thx | 12:35 |
| ogra | i know spacey uses edubuntu a lot in a school environment, but i'm not sure if he uses it in dutch or english | 12:36 |
| ogra | i guess you two should talk :) | 12:37 |
| spacey | the school uses dutch | 12:37 |
| spacey | personally i use english | 12:37 |
| Sergi0 | well, thats about what im up too :) | 12:37 |
| spacey | talk about what? | 12:38 |
| ogra | dunno ... dutch ? | 12:39 |
| Sergi0 | spacey: edubuntu in dutch | 12:39 |
| spacey | ok sure | 12:40 |
| spacey | but not now | 12:40 |
| spacey | i'm going to sleep | 12:40 |
| ogra | me as well... | 12:40 |
| spacey | just ping me later this week on irc Sergi0 | 12:40 |
| Sergi0 | spacey: okay i will :) thx | 12:41 |
| spacey | good night | 12:41 |
| Sergi0 | good idea | 12:41 |
| Sergi0 | gn | 12:41 |
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| Sergi0 | !botsnack | 01:03 |
| ubotu | :) | 01:03 |
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| mwright1nigh1 | ogra: have you seen https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gnome-vfs2/+bug/36647 | 06:39 |
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| JaneW | hello highvoltage | 08:47 |
| === JaneW is going to be an accessibility testing candidate soon... | ||
| Burgundavia | JaneW: oh? | 08:51 |
| JaneW | well my neck is conspiring against me | 08:51 |
| Burgundavia | ah | 08:51 |
| Burgundavia | do you not have a husband to massage it? | 08:52 |
| JaneW | started being stiff on week-end and is getting progressively worse, for no apparent reason | 08:52 |
| JaneW | eventually went to the chiro and started taking painkillers yesterday | 08:52 |
| JaneW | still no improvement | 08:52 |
| JaneW | so I am lying down now :) | 08:52 |
| JaneW | which is not nearly as nice as you would imagine it to be. | 08:53 |
| highvoltage | hell JaneW | 08:59 |
| highvoltage | erm.. hello :) | 08:59 |
| highvoltage | JaneW: ouch :( | 09:00 |
| JaneW | nod | 09:00 |
| JaneW | I wish I knew what was wrong | 09:00 |
| JaneW | it's more than a little concerning now | 09:00 |
| highvoltage | JaneW: i'm even more glad now that you didn't go on fear factor | 09:54 |
| JaneW | yup | 09:55 |
| JaneW | I prefer the traditional format much more | 09:55 |
| highvoltage | yeah. and it would've hurt your back more too. the poeple have to do crazy things. | 09:56 |
| highvoltage | ogra: ping | 09:56 |
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| spacey | the UTC times are really inconvienant for me now | 10:17 |
| spacey | since the summertime | 10:18 |
| spacey | you have summertime in .za as well? or is it always summertime there?:) | 10:18 |
| spacey | JaneW: i hope you get well soon | 10:19 |
| JaneW | spacey: thanks | 10:19 |
| spacey | with utc times i mean the meeting times in utc | 10:19 |
| spacey | :) | 10:19 |
| spacey | before it was just after lunch | 10:20 |
| spacey | now its in the middle of the afternoon | 10:20 |
| JaneW | spacey: we are always on UTC+2 | 10:20 |
| JaneW | and we are in autumn atm | 10:20 |
| spacey | hehe | 10:21 |
| JaneW | we don't fall for the silly daylight savings idea | 10:21 |
| JaneW | it doesn't make sense to me at all | 10:21 |
| spacey | you just have more daylight i guess:p | 10:21 |
| JaneW | yes we have lots | 10:21 |
| spacey | in the winter its dark when i go to work | 10:22 |
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| spacey | and dark when i get back | 10:22 |
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| spacey | when the daylight is available i'm inside | 10:23 |
| JaneW | here too, it get light after 7am and starts getting dark at 6pm | 10:23 |
| spacey | i hate that | 10:23 |
| spacey | depressing | 10:23 |
| spacey | i can't be at the edubuntu today, since i have another meeting at 15:00 | 10:24 |
| spacey | too bad i cannot attend | 10:25 |
| spacey | on the brightside | 10:25 |
| spacey | i will sign a contract | 10:25 |
| spacey | for some officespace :) | 10:25 |
| === spacey happy | ||
| JaneW | yay | 10:29 |
| highvoltage | spacey: how are things? | 10:45 |
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| spacey | highvoltage: regarding? | 11:11 |
| spacey | :) | 11:11 |
| highvoltage | spacey: whatever you like :) | 11:13 |
| spacey | <spacey> on the brightside | 11:13 |
| spacey | <spacey> i will sign a contract | 11:13 |
| spacey | <spacey> for some officespace :) | 11:13 |
| spacey | * spacey happy | 11:13 |
| spacey | i like that | 11:13 |
| spacey | :D | 11:13 |
| highvoltage | :) | 11:14 |
| spacey | i'll post it on my blog :) | 11:14 |
| spacey | when i have the keys | 11:14 |
| spacey | :D | 11:14 |
| spacey | its really fancy | 11:15 |
| spacey | :) | 11:15 |
| spacey | a fancy 22 square meters | 11:15 |
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| pips1 | blimey, it's snowing again in switzerland, I thought it's spring!? | 11:50 |
| pips1 | heavy thick snow | 11:50 |
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| jane_ | ogra: ping | 12:03 |
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| spacey | JaneW: when is the cookbook stuff scheduled? | 12:16 |
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| JaneW | spacey: was a time agreed on | 12:24 |
| JaneW | ? | 12:24 |
| JaneW | I thought Pygi was setting it up? | 12:25 |
| JaneW | we all gave days and times to him? | 12:25 |
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| spacey | i heard no result | 12:33 |
| spacey | i would like to know a date so i can plan it | 12:34 |
| spacey | else i cannot be sure to make it | 12:34 |
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| JaneW | indeed me too | 12:42 |
| JaneW | I would suggest today | 12:42 |
| JaneW | but my mobility is limited | 12:43 |
| JaneW | and tomorrow I have the DDSU Meeting and report and another client meeting | 12:43 |
| JaneW | so perhaps friday is best? | 12:43 |
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| spacey | fine with me | 01:10 |
| spacey | my friday is *still* free | 01:10 |
| JaneW | I just have a chiro appt at 12:00 | 01:16 |
| ogra | JaneW, pong | 01:16 |
| JaneW | which is 10:00UTC | 01:16 |
| JaneW | ogra: nm, I was just stirring | 01:17 |
| ogra | :) | 01:17 |
| JaneW | re flint's mail | 01:17 |
| ogra | which one ? | 01:17 |
| JaneW | LPI | 01:18 |
| ogra | i'm just going through my backlog ... or do you mean the certification mail | 01:18 |
| ogra | hehe | 01:18 |
| JaneW | gave me a chuckle too ;) | 01:18 |
| ogra | yes, someone must teach him about crossposting it seems | 01:18 |
| ogra | he sent it to everybody, but the people that should get it :) | 01:19 |
| spacey | here did he sent it to? | 01:26 |
| spacey | at least i don't see it anywhere | 01:26 |
| ogra | every mailing list he could find it seems | 01:26 |
| spacey | i guess he didn't find edubuntu-devel then | 01:27 |
| ogra | -users -announce -devel -devel-announce and i think 3 others | 01:27 |
| ogra | (too lazy to dig it up again) | 01:27 |
| spacey | like the announce lists work | 01:27 |
| spacey | for replying | 01:27 |
| spacey | its not on -devel at least | 01:29 |
| spacey | i guess he wasn't subscribed | 01:29 |
| ogra | yep | 01:29 |
| ogra | but it hit -users | 01:29 |
| spacey | a search for flint in the april archive has no hits | 01:31 |
| spacey | ah well | 01:31 |
| ogra | *sigh* | 01:34 |
| ogra | 30 new bugs for me ... | 01:34 |
| ogra | mdz is like a dancing derwish currently ... | 01:35 |
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| highvoltage | what's a derwish? | 02:36 |
| ogra | google maroc derwish :) | 02:37 |
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| highvoltage | anyone know how we could get edubuntu these: http://linux-schlepptops.de/product_info.php?cPath=22&products_id=28 | 02:43 |
| highvoltage | JaneW: feeling better? | 02:52 |
| JaneW | highvoltage: not yet | 02:53 |
| highvoltage | :( | 02:53 |
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| zakame | evening all | 02:57 |
| ogra | highvoltage, btw, i typoed it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dervish | 03:01 |
| pips1 | hi | 03:08 |
| ogra | pips1, if you fiddles with IP settings after install, its likely that you need to run ltsp-update-sshkeys | 03:09 |
| pips1 | no, i didn't change the IP settings after install, but thanks for the hint | 03:10 |
| pips1 | i was able to ssh from the client to the server | 03:10 |
| pips1 | my client doesn't seem to get an ip from the server's dhcp... but not sure... I'll need to investigate later, now i need to get back to work. | 03:12 |
| ogra | whithout the yes/no question from ssh ... | 03:12 |
| ogra | ? | 03:12 |
| ogra | if it booted, it got an IP# | 03:13 |
| pips1 | yes, there was a question for importing the server key | 03:13 |
| ogra | aha | 03:13 |
| ogra | thats what ltsp-update-sshkeys does in the client chroot ... and the reason why you cant log in | 03:13 |
| pips1 | i chose F12 on thinkpad to boot via pxe, on the screen it gave me a little turning/spinning slash indicating it was busy trying to connect to the server (waiting for dhcp?) on after a certain time, I was dropped into grub | 03:15 |
| pips1 | oh, so you are saying I need to run ltsp-update-sshkeys on the server and then I should work | 03:16 |
| pips1 | ? | 03:16 |
| pips1 | ogra, sorry I need to go, talk to you later :-) | 03:17 |
| highvoltage | ogra: hehe. ok now i know what Dervish means | 03:20 |
| highvoltage | pips1: what version of PXE does that laptop run? | 03:20 |
| highvoltage | pips1: many pre version 1 versions of PXE were in use 5 years+ ago that doesn't work with LTSP | 03:21 |
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| highvoltage | hmmm.. some of my jabber contacts say 503: service unavailable | 03:40 |
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| hieuvo | omg | 04:48 |
| hieuvo | the edubuntu cd cant be used in new machine with dvd burner but can be read from old machine with cd dirve | 04:48 |
| hieuvo | soooo funny | 04:48 |
| ogra | i usually test with DVDs | 04:48 |
| hieuvo | what u mean ? | 04:49 |
| ogra | i usually burn the isos on DVD for testing, they work just fine here | 04:49 |
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| hieuvo | u burn iso size of a cd into a dvd??? | 04:55 |
| ogra | yup | 04:56 |
| hieuvo | omg i got this message: you dont have enough RAM to install FC onto this machine!! how please? | 04:56 |
| hieuvo | ogra can u help? | 04:56 |
| ogra | i have an amd64 laptop here wher the DVD player is broken and cant read CDs, i test i386 and amd64 on it | 04:56 |
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| ogra | (i use DVDRW btw, else it gets expensive :) ) | 05:05 |
| hieuvo | haha true | 05:05 |
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| MEagain | I am having problems with my bittorrent client... My router ports are already set forwarded and I have no external firewalls.... | 08:10 |
| MEagain | Do I have ports disabled by default in Edubuntu by chance? | 08:10 |
| ogra | nope | 08:11 |
| MEagain | strange | 08:11 |
| ogra | unless you installed a firewall manually | 08:11 |
| MEagain | the software says there is a firewall | 08:11 |
| MEagain | but I see nothing | 08:11 |
| MEagain | I will keep looking then :) | 08:11 |
| ogra | i.e. firestarter or something similar weird | 08:11 |
| MEagain | no I don't like firewalls on my desktop | 08:11 |
| ogra | if you didnt explicitly set one up, then there is none, edubuntu doesnt install any firewall | 08:13 |
| MEagain | ok :) | 08:13 |
| MEagain | found it! | 08:18 |
| MEagain | I feel dumb | 08:18 |
| MEagain | I entered wrong static IP on router forwarding | 08:18 |
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| mhz | hehe, I know upgrading to dapper via APT is not wise. However, after last Flisol, at least 5 guys said they had no issues doing so. Then, I did it! | 08:30 |
| mhz | I now have a very screwed up OS | 08:30 |
| mhz | the good part of this is that I managed to set the BIOS to recognize a USB floppy to be read at booting time | 08:31 |
| mhz | Now I am looking up ways to install Edubuntu again but in a more traditional way. (last time I did it via net) | 08:31 |
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| mhz | supports booting from almost all kinds of IDE ATAPI CD-ROM, including PCMCIA CD-ROMs | 08:34 |
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| pips1 | ogra, you around? | 08:52 |
| pips1 | trying to test flight6... my server is AMD and my client is i386... so I guess I just follow the instructions at https://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuDocumentation/LTSPCrossArchSetup ... | 08:54 |
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| ogra | nope | 09:11 |
| ogra | pips1, just sudo rm -r /opt/ltsp/amd64 && sudo ltsp-build-client --arch i386 | 09:12 |
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| pips1 | ogra: oops, ok | 09:15 |
| lucasvo | ogra: could you do me a favour and give me the latest ppc chroot for dapper? | 09:16 |
| lucasvo | I have an ibook without a HD and not enough ram to build the chroot | 09:17 |
| ogra | lucasvo, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveCDCustomizationHowTo?highlight=%28LiveCD%29%7C%28custom%29 | 09:17 |
| lucasvo | ubuntulivecd sucks, it hangs because of problems with automount | 09:17 |
| lucasvo | not very useful for hdrepair | 09:17 |
| ogra | err | 09:17 |
| ogra | https://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuDocumentation/LTSPCrossArchSetup | 09:18 |
| ogra | thats what i meant | 09:18 |
| pips1 | ogra: so what does the command you suggest above do? i gets rid of amd-ltsp and runs i386-ltsp ? | 09:19 |
| lucasvo | ogra: thanks | 09:19 |
| ogra | pips1, yep | 09:20 |
| lucasvo | ogra: the problem is every LiveCD I tried out on this machine failed ! | 09:20 |
| ogra | we cant set up an i386 chroot on install for amd64 since there are no i386 packges on the CD | 09:20 |
| ogra | lucasvo, did you file bugs about that so the CD can be fixed ? | 09:20 |
| pips1 | ogra, i take it you can run i386 code on a AMD64, it's just not quite optimised performance-wise, right? | 09:22 |
| lucasvo | pips1: I don't have performance problems with i386 | 09:24 |
| lucasvo | ogra: new bug should be reported into launchpad? | 09:24 |
| ogra | pips1, yep | 09:25 |
| ogra | lucasvo, yep | 09:25 |
| cbx33 | ogra, boo | 09:25 |
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| ogra | heh | 09:26 |
| ogra | hey cbx33 | 09:26 |
| ogra | sorry, i'm blind | 09:26 |
| cbx33 | hiya ogra | 09:26 |
| cbx33 | nah...just shortsighted :p | 09:26 |
| cbx33 | so come on then ogra what you guys need help with | 09:27 |
| lucasvo | https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/38258 | 09:32 |
| lucasvo | ogra: so, now I should wait till somebody fixes it? | 09:32 |
| ogra | lucasvo, choosing the right package helps a lot ... i guess Mithrandir will answer soon | 09:34 |
| lucasvo | ogra: I don't know which package it affects | 09:34 |
| ogra | but i do, i fixed it .. | 09:35 |
| lucasvo | thanks | 09:36 |
| pips1 | yeah, unless you know all components that make up a complete GNU/Linux system, it's hard to know what package to assign to when you file a bug... :-/ | 09:38 |
| pips1 | on the upside, you never stop learning new stuff with GNU/Linux, eh? :-) | 09:39 |
| ogra | thats ok ... mdz does nothing else than sitting and sorting bugs currently | 09:39 |
| lucasvo | pips1: hm, no, if evolution crashes it isn't a problem of esd for sure :) | 09:39 |
| ogra | but if you report a bug in the liveCD it helps to choose ubuntu-live as the package ;) | 09:39 |
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| pips1 | lucasvo: hehe | 09:40 |
| ogra | pips1, takes a while :) | 09:40 |
| pips1 | ogra: hehe | 09:40 |
| lucasvo | ogra: any news about "miu"ubuntu? | 09:40 |
| lucasvo | dapper+1? | 09:40 |
| lucasvo | or +2? that would be cool, but probably quite hard to do | 09:41 |
| ogra | nope ... and i doubt anybody has time to think about it before release | 09:41 |
| ogra | we're all very busy (i work ~16-18h a day atm) | 09:41 |
| pips1 | pheeeeew | 09:41 |
| Burgwork | lucasvo, miuubuntu? | 09:41 |
| pips1 | omg | 09:41 |
| ogra | buntu ! | 09:42 |
| lucasvo | Burgwork: yes, for pocketpc | 09:42 |
| Burgwork | ah | 09:42 |
| pips1 | ogra: I'll need to buy you a beer next time we meet :-) | 09:42 |
| lucasvo | see familiar.handhelds.org | 09:42 |
| Burgwork | I think maemo is more interesting project, tbh | 09:42 |
| ogra | Burgwork, or multimedia miniPCs | 09:42 |
| lucasvo | yes | 09:42 |
| Burgwork | maemo 2.0 is planning to actually have proper dpkg support | 09:43 |
| ogra | like digital videorecorders ... DVD players etc | 09:43 |
| lucasvo | homeautomation, carpc etc. | 09:43 |
| ogra | buntu == embedded ubuntu | 09:43 |
| pips1 | haha, I read carpet-pc at first :-) | 09:43 |
| lucasvo | lol, I'd rather have a carpet-oled | 09:44 |
| lucasvo | :) | 09:44 |
| ogra | Burgwork, maemo makes nice t-shirts :P i'm just wearing one of them | 09:44 |
| Burgwork | wearing one of them right now? cool | 09:45 |
| pips1 | enhance your life, with a miu-carpet-pc! | 09:45 |
| pips1 | lucasvo: what would you display on your carpet-oled then? | 09:45 |
| ogra | Burgwork, yes, funny hazard (i didnt plan to talk about maemo today :) ) | 09:46 |
| lucasvo | pips1: these patterns you see, when you took (too much) lsd | 09:47 |
| Burgwork | maybe someone from ubuntu should chat with the maemo people are hooking efforts up together | 09:47 |
| pips1 | lucasvo: wooah | 09:47 |
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| ogra | Burgwork, we did ... in stuttgart last year | 09:48 |
| ogra | makr was there as well | 09:48 |
| ogra | but we dont do embedded stuff yet | 09:48 |
| ogra | *mark indeed | 09:48 |
| Burgwork | cool | 09:49 |
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| pips1 | so ogra, the ltsp-build-client is everything that is needed by clients (as apposed to the server) ? | 09:52 |
| ogra | yep | 09:53 |
| ogra | you need dhcp,tftp,nfs on the server (which ltsp-server-standalone installs and sets up) and ltsp-build-client to create the client environment | 09:53 |
| pips1 | purely in terms of hardisk space, how does the client stuff compare to the server stuff? | 09:53 |
| ogra | the client chroot is ~400M big | 09:54 |
| pips1 | I mean, by the looks of it, the client stuff is pretty much a complete GNU/Linux system ... | 09:55 |
| pips1 | aha | 09:55 |
| pips1 | once I'm done, all client chroot is going to be i386 and the server stuff (dhcp, tftp, nfs) will still run AMD64 code, right? | 09:57 |
| ogra | its a ubuntu-milimal system + X + ltsp-client | 09:57 |
| ogra | X is the big part | 09:57 |
| pips1 | ah, interesting :-) | 09:58 |
| pips1 | hurray, done | 09:59 |
| pips1 | ogra: do I need to restart anything now? | 10:02 |
| pips1 | nfs-kernel-server or smth? | 10:02 |
| ogra | if it doesnt work on first attempt ... | 10:02 |
| pips1 | ok, i'll try | 10:03 |
| ogra | but usually it does ... | 10:03 |
| === pips1 is trying to boot the thinkpad as client with pxe-2.1 | ||
| pips1 | that didn't work :-( looks like it didn't get an ip from dhcp or smth | 10:05 |
| ogra | meh | 10:05 |
| pips1 | how do I debug this? | 10:05 |
| ogra | check your dhcp server | 10:06 |
| pips1 | how? | 10:06 |
| ogra | the config ... | 10:07 |
| ogra | does it run | 10:07 |
| ogra | is it the only one in your network etc | 10:07 |
| ogra | what we did last time | 10:07 |
| pips1 | ah | 10:07 |
| pips1 | sure :-) | 10:07 |
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| ogra | sorry i'm very busy and lagging with my work i have to have finished tommorow morning ... and currently get bombed with questions in 6 channels | 10:08 |
| pips1 | ogra: wow, ok, I'll hold off and try to figure out as much as I can by myself | 10:09 |
| ogra | thanks | 10:11 |
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| mhz | ogra, in breezy, I get IP from clients BUT, also this error: | 10:14 |
| mhz | PXE-T01: File not found | 10:14 |
| mhz | PDE-E3B: TFTP Error - File Not found | 10:15 |
| ogra | look like your tftp is broken | 10:15 |
| mhz | PXE-E3B: TFTP Error - File Not found | 10:15 |
| mhz | yup | 10:15 |
| mhz | but it was a fresh default install (iirc) | 10:15 |
| ogra | and you dont have *any* dhcp server around apart from the edubuntu server ? | 10:16 |
| mhz | hmm, nope. My typical homeserver -> swiths -> thin laptop | 10:17 |
| mhz | switch | 10:18 |
| mhz | ogra, and there is nothing under ls /opt/ltsp/ | 10:18 |
| ogra | then surely something went wrong | 10:18 |
| mhz | yup | 10:18 |
| mhz | reinstall edubuntu-server or better way? | 10:19 |
| ogra | you are sure thats a edubuntu CD ? | 10:19 |
| mhz | nope, my last copy ws given away in Flisol | 10:19 |
| mhz | so this was Ubuntu -> Edubuntu | 10:19 |
| ogra | oh | 10:19 |
| ogra | but you followed the ThinClientHowto to set it up then ? | 10:20 |
| === mhz saw ogra slaping mhz in his mind :D | ||
| ogra | just installing edubuntu-server doesnt set up stuff like the CD does | 10:20 |
| ogra | you need to do all manually then | 10:20 |
| mhz | # | 10:22 |
| mhz | A sense of adventure | 10:22 |
| mhz | # | 10:22 |
| mhz | A burning desire to send feedback to [WWW] ubuntu-devel | 10:22 |
| mhz | LOL!! | 10:22 |
| mhz | ogra, oh, I see. Okis then. thx | 10:22 |
| mhz | I know how to fix it | 10:22 |
| ogra | sudo ltsp-build-client | 10:22 |
| ogra | and set up the dhcp server should be sufficient | 10:23 |
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| mhz | yeah, and editing /etc/hosts.allow | 10:29 |
| axl000 | HOLA MHZ | 10:30 |
| mhz | axl000, hey, man | 10:30 |
| axl000 | como estas | 10:30 |
| mhz | fine. Thx. Di you get answers from ML regarding your Alsa problem? | 10:31 |
| ogra | mhz, noo | 10:31 |
| ogra | mhz, dont follow that parts | 10:31 |
| mhz | ogra, oops, no? dont edit etc/hosts.allow? | 10:31 |
| ogra | only the ltsp-build-client | 10:31 |
| ogra | thatscrap | 10:31 |
| mhz | ogra, oohh, good to know | 10:31 |
| axl000 | mhz, me podrias contar un poco como se hace para instalar linux booteando desde red | 10:32 |
| mhz | axl000, hmmm, yes, I could | 10:33 |
| mhz | axl000, could you read a simple howto in english? | 10:33 |
| axl000 | oka | 10:33 |
| axl000 | si | 10:33 |
| mhz | axl000, te dare una url entonces | 10:33 |
| mhz | the same I used to install via net | 10:33 |
| axl000 | ok | 10:34 |
| mhz | axl000, does your pc boot from floppy? | 10:34 |
| mhz | or no floppy? | 10:34 |
| axl000 | no floppy | 10:34 |
| mhz | my case is "no floppy, no CD" | 10:34 |
| mhz | cool | 10:35 |
| axl000 | jeje | 10:35 |
| mhz | axl000, do you have other OS installed in hd? | 10:35 |
| axl000 | m$ | 10:35 |
| mhz | https://wiki.edubuntu.org/Installation/FromWindows | 10:36 |
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| pips1 | ogra: don't know what's wrong, attempting to book via PXE gives me "No DHCP or proxyDHCP offers recieved, aborting". I *did* dis-able dhcp on the router (it read DHCP=off). And I can access the server via ssh from a fat client. Don't know what to do now. SIGH. | 10:41 |
| ogra | pips1, probably your router needs a restart to make the settings take effect (mine does) | 10:42 |
| pips1 | yes, I did restart | 10:42 |
| ogra | is the dhcp server running on the edubuntu server ? | 10:42 |
| ogra | ps ax|grep dhcp | 10:43 |
| pips1 | how can I find out? | 10:43 |
| pips1 | aha! | 10:43 |
| pips1 | no dhcp | 10:43 |
| ogra | https://wiki.edubuntu.org/LTSPServerSetup | 10:43 |
| axl000 | mhz, lo lei a la rapida pero no veo nada como para hacerlo por red | 10:43 |
| ogra | :) | 10:43 |
| mhz | axl000, hmm, pera | 10:45 |
| axl000 | quizas hay q hacerlo para entenderlo pero no veo algun paso paa montar el cd de linux | 10:48 |
| axl000 | no se | 10:48 |
| mhz | axl000, pero tienes un CD y tu CD drive no es bootable? | 10:50 |
| mhz | axl000, or you have another linux pc we can use as a boot server? | 10:50 |
| axl000 | nopo | 10:50 |
| pips1 | ogra, in dhcpd.conf "option domain-name-servers 192.168.0.1;" --> how do I specify serval ip addresses for that? what's the separator? a semicolon? a space? or a separate line for each? | 10:50 |
| axl000 | la idea es usar otro pc para servir al mio | 10:50 |
| axl000 | y podr instslar linux | 10:51 |
| mhz | axl000, ahhh' | 10:51 |
| axl000 | eso es lo q se explcica en la guia? | 10:51 |
| ogra | pips1, doesnt matter, you dont need any DNS on the clients :) | 10:52 |
| pips1 | oh | 10:52 |
| mhz | axl000, https://wiki.edubuntu.org/Installation/Netboot | 10:52 |
| mhz | axl000, o esta https://wiki.edubuntu.org/Installation/LocalNet | 10:52 |
| axl000 | q era lo hacia la otra guia, instalar linux desde windows pero en el mismo pc? | 10:52 |
| mhz | axl000, o esata para M$ https://wiki.edubuntu.org/Installation/WindowsServerNetboot | 10:53 |
| ogra | pips1, that gets intresting for fat clients or locally running firefox, but we dont support either yet | 10:53 |
| mhz | axl000, sip | 10:53 |
| axl000 | jaja na q ver | 10:53 |
| mhz | axl000, /join #mhz | 10:55 |
| pips1 | ogra: I booted my first edubunt client! it's working! YAY | 10:57 |
| ogra | yay | 10:57 |
| pips1 | :-D | 10:58 |
| pips1 | ogra: thanks for your patience!! | 10:58 |
| ogra | :) | 10:58 |
| ogra | sorry for being harsh before ... | 10:58 |
| pips1 | that dhcp router confusion stuff must get on your nerves, but you don't show it ;-) | 10:58 |
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| ogra | one day i'll reimplement dhcp and solve it ;) | 10:59 |
| pips1 | you are never harsh, mr.! | 10:59 |
| pips1 | hehe | 10:59 |
| ogra | :) | 10:59 |
| pips1 | so cool, I now running openoffice, firefox... | 10:59 |
| ogra | yay, and one of my screensaver nightmare bugs seems fixed upstream :)))))) | 11:00 |
| pips1 | nice | 11:00 |
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| pips1 | ogra: I feel like i'm a kid again :-) so much fun | 11:14 |
| pips1 | ogra: when I play a sound file from a client, the sound actually plays on the speakers of the server... instead of on the client. is that what's supposed to happen? | 11:15 |
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| pips1 | hmm. printing locally on the client doesn't work... is it supposed to? | 11:30 |
| pips1 | i guess that is getting into fat client land, though | 11:31 |
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| pips1 | good night, thanks again | 12:04 |
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