[12:00] <IamEthos> sometimes it will pop up bugzilla, sometimes not
[12:00] <davidmoore83> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11483
[12:00] <POVaddct> bliss1_: i think so. but don't ask me about Xen :)
[12:00] <arrick> hey is there a site that I can go to to test my system, so i dont need someone helping me to make sure it appears?
[12:01] <arrick> not anonymouse.org
[12:01] <davidmoore83> arrick, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11483
[12:01] <tobias__> hi
[12:01] <phaidros> how to tell beagle not to run in debug mode?
[12:01] <bliss1_> POVaddct: no I will not thanks for all your help and giving me some learning curve experince--enjoy
[12:02] <arrick> too new for this on davidmoore83
[12:02] <adventchild> dabaR: you get that? or should i give you the link again?
[12:02] <arrick> hey is there a site that I can go to to test my system, so i dont need someone helping me to make sure it appears? dabaR ?
[12:02] <davidmoore83> ANYONE help me with ATI instal got this after install: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11483
[12:02] <BrownMan> Ok new question from the linux n00b -- What is "untaring" a file and if I downloaded a tar file from the internet...say a game...how do I unpack it and get it to work?
[12:02] <dabaR> adventchild: I got it. Just taking a while to fix it up: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11484
[12:02] <arrick> my web server dabaR
[12:03] <adventchild> dabaR: ok...  ty
[12:03] <cedric> dia-glx: Conflicts: nvidia-settings but 1.0-3ubuntu7 is to be installed
 E: Broken packages
[12:03] <Gurft> anyone have USB devices automouting setup?
[12:03] <cedric> ? thats sounds weird to me
[12:03] <bliss1_> arrick: catch you later man keep cool
[12:03] <dabaR> adventchild: save that, close, and reload your package list in synaptic. then install those packages.
[12:03] <arrick> _jason sees it though I cannot, and I want to access from the internet so i can make sure is how I want the page
[12:03] <adventchild> dabaR: do i add that or replace it?
[12:03] <arrick> bliss1_, youtoo
[12:03] <dabaR> adventchild: replace with that.
[12:03] <frank23> BrownMan: it means decompressing.   tar xvfz filename.tar.gz  or  tar xvfj for filename.tar.bz2
[12:04] <apple132> When somebody is remotely connected to my computer through SSH, how can I get a list of people connected?
[12:04] <Dreamglider> are there no standard drivers that will work with the usb adaptor ?
[12:04] <frank23> BrownMan: what is it you downloaded?
[12:04] <triage> why woun't my sound work, when its enabled and unmuted in Alsa :(
[12:04] <BrownMan> Frank:  Chromium
[12:04] <BrownMan> Frank:  It was in the ubuntu wiki for good games on Linux
[12:04] <davidmoore83> ANYONE help me with ATI instal got this after install: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11483
[12:05] <dabaR> BrownMan: you know the word tar? Well, take all your files, add some tar, and you got one tar ball.
[12:05] <gremid> apple132, "who" for all shell-based connections.
[12:05] <BrownMan> dabar:  haha somehow the windows person can't laugh
[12:05] <BrownMan> dabar:  partly because windows is just that
[12:05] <frank23> BrownMan: you can install chromium with synaptic. it's the standard way to install software in ubuntu. I never tried that game though
[12:05] <__mikem> Does transgaming actually provide ports of windows games
[12:05] <davidmoore83> ANYONE help me with ATI instal got this after install: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11483
[12:05] <bliss1_> POVaddct: its bedtime keep cool.
[12:05] <dabaR> davidmoore83: you need to stop repeating.
[12:06] <davidmoore83> dabaR, i will when someone heps
[12:06] <BrownMan> frank:  oh ok ill look in synaptic I guess but it would be nice to know how this whole tar thing worked for the future
[12:06] <frank23> __mikem: no. cedega is a modified wine
[12:06] <dabaR> davidmoore83: you followed https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ?
[12:06] <__mikem> oh, ok
[12:06] <frank23> BrownMan: it means decompressing.   tar xvfz filename.tar.gz  or  tar xvfj filename.tar.bz2
[12:06] <BrownMan> So where does it go when I do that?
[12:06] <davidmoore83> dabaR, yes hence how i got the output in the link and know there is soething wrong
[12:06] <adventchild> dabaR: the last line wraps around...  should i leave it or add another number?
[12:07] <__mikem> Speaking of wine, I know how to get bejeweled to run on wine with 100% reliability
[12:07] <frank23> BrownMan: in a terminal.
[12:07] <dabaR> adventchild: not sure, try as it is.
[12:07] <eth0-noob> stupid thing.
[12:07] <adventchild> dabaR: ok...  hope the sys doesnt crash lol
[12:07] <bliss1_> nickrud: in the office mant thanks for your help a some days ago
[12:07] <triage> okay this is really wierd but sounds like im being dumb. ubuntu now plays sound through my headset, but won't play it via my laptops built in speakers, any suggestions?
[12:07] <eth0-noob> can someone help me get sudo working on my account?
[12:07] <BrownMan> Frank:  I know I put that command in a terminal but where does the finished package go?
[12:07] <dabaR> adventchild: nothing really bad can come about.
[12:08] <eth0-noob> i put a pass on root...
[12:08] <eth0-noob> sudo just doesnt work
[12:08] <sfar> today will the historical second "01:02:03 04/05/06" occure!
[12:08] <dabaR> eth0-noob: you tried your password?
[12:08] <_jason> eth0-noob: did you do an expert install/
[12:08] <eth0-noob> ?
[12:08] <eth0-noob> what?
[12:08] <eth0-noob> um
[12:08] <haGGis> is there any project mangment software
[12:08] <frank23> BrownMan: for synaptic have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[12:08] <heero1711> triage ur built in speakers are working?
[12:08] <eth0-noob> i added myself to sudo group in etc/group
[12:08] <BrownMan> Frank:  Ok thanks
[12:08] <eth0-noob> and added all privledges in the users-admin
[12:08] <_jason> eth0-noob: you want the 'admin' group
[12:08] <eth0-noob> and sudo doesnt work
[12:09] <eth0-noob> well i think im in that, but ill check.
[12:09] <arrick> Which site can I go to to verify m y web site is looking like I want it on the internet?
[12:09] <heero1711> i think u need edit
[12:09] <heero1711> the sudoers file
[12:09] <adventchild> dabaR: hm... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11485
[12:09] <heero1711> to be able to gain
[12:09] <heero1711> more level
[12:09] <dabaR> adventchild: post your sources.list to pastebin.
[12:09] <eth0-noob> well
[12:09] <dabaR> heero1711: ya.
[12:10] <eth0-noob> im on dapper drake 6.. im in the lpadmin.. thats the only admin group in the group file
[12:10] <dabaR> heero1711: and
[12:10] <dabaR> heero1711: writing in 5 lines one sentence
[12:10] <dabaR> heero1711: is
[12:10] <_jason> eth0-noob: did you do an expert install?
[12:10] <dabaR> heero1711: fun!
[12:10] <mwe> arrick: what do you mean? localhost:// ?
[12:10] <triage> heero1711 yea i dual boot ubuntu and windows xp, and they work through windows xp
[12:10] <eth0-noob> __jason i didnt
[12:10] <heero1711> :D
[12:10] <adventchild> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11486
[12:10] <_jason> eth0-noob: su to root and paste your /etc/sudoers contents
[12:10] <eth0-noob> i had my home directory partitioned and saved from my older version of ubuntu.
[12:10] <arrick> mwe
[12:10] <heero1711> mmm that is rare triage, maybe could be the output
[12:10] <mwe> arrick: that's me
[12:10] <heero1711> look into alsamixer settings
[12:10] <eth0-noob> kk
[12:10] <heero1711> maybe ur speaker are mute
[12:11] <triage> heero1711: and after further testing, I can hear systems sounds, but nothing through media players on my headest
[12:11] <heero1711> or something like that
[12:11] <j4k> I heard about something being released with Flight 6 that will let you configure 802.1i easily. Is this true?
[12:11] <arrick> mwe, i want to view it from the internet, my update client is know for "breaking" and i want to make sure its up when I need it from the internet
[12:11] <eth0-noob> # /etc/sudoers
[12:11] <eth0-noob> #
[12:11] <eth0-noob> # This file MUST be edited with the 'visudo' command as root.
[12:11] <eth0-noob> #
[12:11] <eth0-noob> # See the man page for details on how to write a sudoers file.
[12:11] <eth0-noob> # Host alias specification
[12:11] <triage> heero1711 i went through and unmuted everything in alsa
[12:11] <eth0-noob> # User alias specification
[12:11] <eth0-noob> # Cmnd alias specification
[12:11] <eth0-noob> # Defaults
[12:11] <frank23> j4k: 802.1i ? is that new?
[12:11] <eth0-noob> Defaults        !lecture,tty_tickets,!fqdn
[12:11] <arrick> !pastebin
[12:11] <eth0-noob> # User privilege specification
[12:11] <dabaR> eth0-noob: use paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:11] <heero1711> use pastebin!
[12:11] <gnomefreak> eth0-noob: please dont paste in here
[12:11] <eth0-noob> root    ALL=(ALL) ALL
[12:11] <gonzobrains> is ubuntu secure? like no backdoors and sh!t like that?
[12:11] <_jason> eth0-noob: hrmm, I meant use pastebin
[12:11] <eth0-noob> sorry.
[12:11] <eth0-noob> for spam.
[12:11] <heero1711> triage mm is rare,
[12:11] <eth0-noob> ah sorry lol
[12:12] <arrick> every *()* time
[12:12] <j4k> frank23: sorry, I meant 802.11i
[12:12] <_jason> eth0-noob: ok, one last thing.  What does 'getent group admin' return?
[12:12] <gonzobrains> you know what i'm saying?
[12:12] <gnomefreak> gonzobrains: backdoor as in trojans? or backdoors as hackers can get in
[12:12] <gonzobrains> backdoors like yeah, hackers or the people who made it able to bust in on your system
[12:12] <frank23> j4k: I didn't know there was anything beyond g...
[12:12] <narg> is there something other than ulimit you need to do to make a program core dump?
[12:12] <dabaR> adventchild: how about this one: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11487,save that, close gedit(in which you edit), then close synaptic, and run "sudo aptitude update".
[12:12] <gnomefreak> gonzobrains: you do knwo that no system is hack proof right?
[12:12] <j4k> frank23: sorry, I used an obscure standard. I meant WPA2
[12:13] <mwe> arrick: I must admit I abselute don't understand what you're trying to say
[12:13] <eth0-noob> getent group admin gives me a new line. nothing.
[12:13] <dabaR> gonzobrains: there are no such things, no.
[12:13] <gonzobrains> yeah, i understand hack proof, but i mean there aren't any blatant backdoors made by the creators
[12:13] <gnomefreak> gonzobrains: no
[12:13] <gonzobrains> k
[12:13] <dabaR> gonzobrains: we would not know anyhow.
[12:13] <gonzobrains> see, i've decided i would like to stop using WinXP and I want to start identifying good utilities to use on ubuntu
[12:13] <_jason> eth0-noob: as root, do the following: addgroup --system admin; echo "%admin ALL=(ALL) ALL" >> /etc/sudoers && adduser your_normal_username admin
[12:13] <mwe> arrick: what do you mean 'my update client is know for "breaking"' ?
[12:13] <gnomefreak> i trust the devel team they havent let me down yet ;)
[12:13] <gonzobrains> i use firefox on xp now and i will continue to use it on ubuntu, but i'd like to find a good replacement for outlook
[12:13] <eth0-noob> kk hold on
[12:13] <arrick> I want to access the site from outside my network, so I can make sure i can se it
[12:13] <gonzobrains> for email.
[12:14] <gnomefreak> gonzobrains: yes
[12:14] <heero1711> Thunderbird
[12:14] <frank23> j4k: oh... I get less dumb by the minute ;)  I'm not sure if dapper will have easy wpa2 configuration. maybe ask in #ubuntu+1
[12:14] <heero1711> :D
[12:14] <dabaR> gonzobrains: we use evolution for that, or thunderbird.
[12:14] <gnomefreak> thunderbird for email ;)
[12:14] <gonzobrains> like if i back up my email in outlook it creates PST files.  i would like to be able to back up and archive my email
[12:14] <mwe> arrick: then use your global ip
[12:14] <j4k> frank23: thanks :D
[12:14] <gonzobrains> i didnt like thunderbird.  i tried to set up a POP account and it wouldn't download my mail.
[12:14] <Dreamglider> damn
[12:14] <gonzobrains> i had 200 msgs i could see through my web client and it wouldn't get them
[12:14] <heero1711> what kind of pop account?
[12:14] <gonzobrains> i heard it was really buggy.  i'd rather use PINE than a buggy thunderbird!
[12:14] <heero1711> Something like gmail?
[12:14] <gonzobrains> umm, regular plain jane pop
[12:14] <gnomefreak> gonzobrains: theres like 100 email clients to choose from
[12:14] <heero1711> some times use another port
[12:15] <arrick> I have a dynamic IP address and no-ip.com makes it where you can run a server by supplying a dynamic ip update client to run on your server
[12:15] <heero1711> a secure port
[12:15] <gonzobrains> i tried setting up evolution but after starting it and putting in my name it wouldn't highlight the "forward" button for me to continue the install wizard!
[12:15] <gonzobrains> my pop server is hosted by someone.  i've never had a problem retrieving my email via outlook or outlook express
[12:16] <gonzobrains> i basically want to try using ubunutu, and it i ever have to give up i want to be able to take my archived emails and re-import them back into windows
[12:16] <mwe> arrick: well at any point you can use your present global ip to access it "from the outside"
[12:16] <gonzobrains> i'm not that enthusiastic about windows, but i do have to get along with the rest of the world
[12:16] <gonzobrains> and i hate having to use websites that only work with IE, but it's still a necessity
[12:16] <eth0-noob> hm
[12:16] <arrick> gonzobrains, set your email client so it leaves a copy on the server until your delete it
[12:16] <eth0-noob> brb
[12:17] <gonzobrains> I can't do that forever.  i get too many emails and my provider will get pissed
[12:17] <gonzobrains> ultimately i will set up my own server but i dont want to do that right now until i know what i'm doing
[12:17] <hurax> kmail uses mbox format, mutt and pine too
[12:17] <farous> !broadcom
[12:17] <gnomefreak> gonzobrains: Ff has an ie plugin to view ie pages ;)
[12:17] <jossver> hello again :)
[12:17] <hurax> are there windows clients using mbox too?
[12:17] <mwe> gonzobrains: I use IE with wine for my web bank
[12:17] <iceman> is there a way in gnome to change the gnome toolbar where it says applications / places / system .... to a bit more windows style ... start button
[12:17] <gonzobrains> okay , well, as long as there is some sort of standard mail format i can archive to
[12:17] <jane> gonzobrains, i'm not plain :(
[12:17] <gnomefreak> iceman: kde
[12:17] <farous> is ubotu on ?
[12:17] <jossver> I'm having problems with Sun Java and Azureus
[12:17] <gonzobrains> i know about that IE plugin.  i use it on windows but i just discovered today a website that still doesn't cooperate with it!
[12:17] <gonzobrains> hahaha
[12:17] <gnomefreak> farous: no
[12:18] <jossver> In Azureus, I can see images and lines, but not text
[12:18] <lancia> http://www.divisiontwo.com/articles/barbieOS.htm look at this! Ubuntu has major competiton
[12:18] <farous> that figure than thanx gnomefreak
[12:18] <iceman> never have got themes to work in kde ... so started using gnome
[12:18] <gnomefreak> farous: yw what was it you needed?
[12:18] <gnomefreak> i have wiki open
[12:18] <mlowe> ok, i found a feature, let me descibe so i dont file wrong places
[12:18] <gonzobrains> for the moment i would be happy with a good browser and email.  i'll deal with figuring out a word processor and other shit later
[12:18] <eth0-noob> ok it did not work.
[12:18] <adventchild> dabaR: sweet...  ty....   gotta run for a bit but i will be back...  if you are still here i will let you know if it worked...  ty much
[12:19] <farous> gnomefreak: just checking the factoid on broadcom and ndiswrapper under dapper
[12:19] <gonzobrains> right now i am running ubuntu under VMware.  i'd like to be able to take my ubuntu install around with me on a portable hard drive and just run vmware wherever i am
[12:19] <eth0-noob> i do not have sudo rights.
[12:19] <gnomefreak> ok farous let me see if i have that one
[12:19] <adventchild> dabaR: what would be the next step?
[12:19] <serge_> gonzobrains, does the live CD not do mthe same thing?
[12:19] <adventchild> i ran sudo aptitude update and it worked
[12:19] <mlowe> when i run 2 xmms the volume controls are linked together they should not be , i want to be able to change volumes seperatly
[12:19] <gonzobrains> what is live CD?
[12:20] <mwe> eth0-noob: make sure you're in the admin group and that sudoers is configured correctly
[12:20] <gonzobrains> running from a bootable CD?
[12:20] <gnomefreak> farous: heres one
[12:20] <serge_> Ubuntu Live CD
[12:20] <gnomefreak> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx?action=show&redirect=WiFiBroadcomDriver
[12:20] <serge_> yeah
[12:20] <gonzobrains> umm
[12:20] <_jason> eth0-noob: logout and log back in
[12:20] <TruckerMan> is it possible to query a wireless pcmcia card chipset in windows??
[12:20] <gonzobrains> you can't save stuff to a live CD, right?
[12:20] <mwe> gnomefreak: right :)
[12:20] <farous> thanx gnomefreak checking it out will be back if i had troubles though i dounbt it :)
[12:20] <gnomefreak> gonzobrains: correct
[12:20] <serge_> gonzobrains, right
[12:20] <gonzobrains> yeah, i'm sticking with VMware
[12:20] <gnomefreak> farous: yw
[12:20] <gonzobrains> i can run all sorts of virtual machines with it
[12:20] <mwe> gnomefreak: that was meant for gonzobrains, sorry :)
[12:21] <eth0-noob> ok hold on
[12:21] <gnomefreak> its all good mwe
[12:21] <mlowe> should i file a bug in ubuntu, debain or xmms ?
[12:21] <gonzobrains> right now i have a development platform running WinXP, and I'm testing out ubuntu and puppy in other VMs
[12:21] <TruckerMan> is it possible to query a wireless pcmcia card chipset in windows??
[12:21] <eth0-noob> heh
[12:21] <gonzobrains> it's pretty cool.  you can clone a VM and if you phuck it all up you can restart from a clone
[12:21] <eth0-noob> had to give privledged to acct. brb
[12:21] <TruckerMan> what the hell is a wireless pcmcia card chipset?? in windows??
[12:21] <mwe> TruckerMan: I think so, but I think you need 3rd party tools
[12:21] <gnomefreak> TruckerMan: this isnt windows how would we know :(
[12:22] <serge_> gonzobrains, I always thaught it was easyer to install Windows on a partition on a external harddrive and ubuntu on another partition
[12:22] <serge_> thus only ever needing the portable harddrive
[12:22] <jaye> hi
[12:22] <gonzobrains> my point is that i would be running the VM under other peoples' computers
[12:22] <TruckerMan> gnomefreak, i'm online in win working on ubuntu wireless, think about it
[12:22] <gnomefreak> TruckerMan: you didnt say that but i know now
[12:22] <gonzobrains> i wouldn't take my computer with me, just the little hard drive.  plug it into a USB port and then run the VM player (which is free) and voila!  i have my own personal environment running wherever i am
[12:23] <TruckerMan> didnt think i'd need to
[12:23] <gonzobrains> i could secure the connection so that no one can sniff my sh!t like if i'm in an internet cafe or something
[12:23] <gnomefreak> TruckerMan: alot of people come in here for windows talk :(
[12:23] <gonzobrains> windows talk?
[12:23] <TruckerMan> mwe, do you know how to query chipset in ubu?
[12:23] <armann> hello..
[12:23] <TruckerMan> ubuntu
[12:23] <serge_> gonzobrains, ? then why not just install them both on the same harddrive..
[12:23] <mwe> TruckerMan: lspci -v
[12:23] <armann> why on earth does installing VLC not work?
[12:23] <gonzobrains> the partition thing would be more practical for me on my desktop at home
[12:24] <serge_> makes no sence to even use VMware
[12:24] <gonzobrains> serge:  i dont have the choice of booting to my harddrive from other people's computers
[12:24] <gnomefreak> armann: what doesnt work about it?
[12:24] <TruckerMan> ok, thanks, i'll do the old partition switch fun fun
[12:24] <tristanmike> armann: how is it not installing ?
[12:24] <serge_> yes you do.
[12:24] <armann> not found
[12:24] <eth0-noob> it still isnt working
[12:24] <eth0-noob> idk why
[12:24] <eth0-noob> let me make sure im in the admin group
[12:24] <serge_> gonzobrains, you can boot from USB HDD ne time you want
[12:24] <gnomefreak> armann: do you have universe and multiverse repos enabled?
[12:24] <armann> i also checked the server that ubuntu chooses for me, and it looks like a bunch of stuff is missing =/
[12:24] <chanakya> armann: use apt-get install vlc
[12:25] <armann> i think i have them enabled
[12:25] <gonzobrains> serge: i dont know if everyone's computers i use support botting from a USB HDD
[12:25] <gonzobrains> and like, what about internet cafes? do they let you do that?
[12:25] <gonzobrains> booting*
[12:25] <gnomefreak> armann: can you please paste your /etc/apt/sources.list file to pastebin
[12:25] <serge_> gonzobrains, nearly every computer with a USB port will support it
[12:25] <gonzobrains> do you have to mess with the BIOS?
[12:25] <gonzobrains> like boot settings and stuff?
[12:25] <jane> but whether or not its allowed is questionable
[12:25] <gonzobrains> yes
[12:25] <serge_> gonzobrains, no, but i also doubt they'll let you load up vmware and ubuntu aswell
[12:25] <Hawk|-> hi someone fit in flgrx ?!
[12:26] <Hawk|-> fglrx
[12:26] <eth0-noob> lol i wasnt in admin. brb.
[12:26] <Hawk|-> i mean
[12:26] <gonzobrains> you don't have to upload vmware!!  the player is an executable on the drive and you run it and it accesses a file on your drive that acts like the file system
[12:26] <serge_> gonzobrains, yes, i know that, but are they going to let _you_ do it?
[12:26] <serge_> have you gone and asked?
[12:26] <gonzobrains> serge:  not sure. hahaha
[12:26] <serge_> and you tryed?
[12:26] <serge_> then waht exactly is the problem then lol
[12:27] <serge_> you know exactly what you have to do :)
[12:27] <jane> an executable like that is probably more acceptable than booting from cd/hard drive
[12:27] <gonzobrains> serge:  right now i think they wont prohibit running an executable
[12:27] <eth0-noob> ok it is not working at all
[12:27] <serge_> jane yes, but i've never been able to load ne thing from ext hdd in a cybercafe
[12:27] <_jason> eth0-noob: when I said ``adduser your_normal_username admin'' did you change your_normal_username to your actual normal username :P
[12:27] <eth0-noob> i dont know why
[12:27] <jane> i've never been, so i wouldnt know :)
[12:27] <eth0-noob> lol i did
[12:27] <jane> wifi + laptop is easier
[12:27] <armann> gnomefreak,  http://pastebin.com/641032
[12:27] <gonzobrains> i'm not worried about cyber cafes as much as I am other computers i know would allow running an executable
[12:27] <_jason> eth0-noob: and you have logged out and back in?
[12:27] <serge_> gonzobrains, then looks like your back to squre one
[12:27] <eth0-noob> yes
[12:27] <mwe> _jason: that's not how you do it
[12:28] <eth0-noob> and made sure i was in lpadmin and adm group
[12:28] <PoyBoy> can anyone help me get my zydas usb 802.11b/g card working?
[12:28] <jane> most computer labs and such i've been in usually say no installing software
[12:28] <eth0-noob> nothing doesnt work.
[12:28] <mwe> _jason: , eth0-noob gpasswd -a youruser admin
[12:28] <_jason> mwe: how do you do it?
[12:28] <serge_> gonzobrains, thats okay then, just use whatever you want..
[12:28] <gonzobrains> serge: at the moment i would like to run my instance over my company network, my network at home, my laptop, etc. concurrently while running the native OS
[12:28] <serge_> just if your not using cybercafes
[12:28] <_jason> mwe: wouldn't both work?
[12:28] <jane> if in doubt, ask
[12:28] <serge_> its more efficient to not use VMware
[12:28] <mwe> _jason: no
[12:28] <_jason> mwe: why?
[12:28] <mwe> _jason: adduser doesn't work like that
[12:28] <armann> gnomefreak, you got that?
[12:28] <gnomefreak> armann: ok the very very first line starts with deb cdrom you need to put a #infront of it please and leave it open i will list the ones to take the # away from
[12:29] <_jason> mwe: I've used it in the past like that though
[12:29] <eth0-noob> hmm hold on lemme check
[12:29] <skynet> Hey guys, I'm trying to move a folder from my desktop into USR folder but i dont have permissions, how do i get permission
[12:29] <IdleOne> PoyBoy, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[12:29] <eth0-noob> do i need to log out and back in after adding to a group?
[12:29] <gonzobrains> does anyone have any resources on how to convert from using Windows to ubuntu/linux?
[12:29] <jossver> Okay, Firefox works
[12:29] <mwe> _jason: I think not. usermod might do it though
[12:29] <_jason> eth0-noob: yes
[12:29] <serge_> gonzobrains, lol?
[12:29] <eth0-noob> Woot woot
[12:29] <mwe> _jason: useradd is for adding new users
[12:29] <serge_> what do you mean?
[12:29] <gonzobrains> i mean, i know how to develop on linux but have never really used it for desktop/(l)user apps
[12:29] <eth0-noob> no i dont
[12:29] <gonzobrains> lol?
[12:29] <_jason> mwe: man useradd :)
[12:29] <jossver> okay - [next] 
[12:29] <eth0-noob> unless its bad if i dont but it works without logging out.
[12:29] <_jason> erm I meant adduser
[12:29] <PoyBoy> idleone, thanks
[12:29] <_jason> hrmm
[12:29] <gonzobrains> serge: what's so funny?
[12:29] <skynet> Hey guys, I'm trying to move a folder from my desktop into USR folder but i dont have permissions, how do i get permission
[12:30] <gnomefreak> armann: take the # away from all the other lines that start with deb and after the word universe in the lines please add a space and than the word multiverse
[12:30] <gonzobrains> well, like using a linux platform but getting along with windows people
[12:30] <_jason> mwe: are we confusing adduser and useradd?  I mean adduser
[12:30] <eth0-noob> mwe thanks a Lot.
[12:30] <gonzobrains> file compatibility etc
[12:30] <serge_> gonzobrains, I woke up this morning, installed ubuntu and went out, leaving Windows still installed on the same hardrive took me no more then 2hours?
[12:30] <jossver> apt-get can't find java-package in aptitude - I'm somewhere between hoary and breezy - upgrade in progress
[12:30] <gnomefreak> armann: once done save it close it and run apt-get update please
[12:30] <gonzobrains> yeah, but installing and using are two different things
[12:30] <gnomefreak> armann: ill brb going for smoke
[12:30] <mwe> _jason: yeah. man adduser says "add a user or group to the system"
[12:30] <serge_> gonzobrains, what do you want to share between the two OS?
[12:30] <gonzobrains> my ubuntu install only took a few minutes because VMware already had a VM setup with it.
[12:31] <NickGarvey> adduser gives you bunch of prompts and does it all automated
[12:31] <iceman> dang it .... how to change either KDE or GNOME application bar to a complete custom look
[12:31] <gonzobrains> well, i dont want to run into trouble with Internet Explorer compatibility, Word files, MS Access, Excel, and other crap the rest of the word depends on
[12:31] <NickGarvey> useradd just makes the user, no shell, no home dir, no group
[12:31] <IdleOne> gonzobrains, serge_ interesting as it is can you please take the offtopic convo to #ubuntu-offtopic . thanks :)
[12:31] <_jason> mwe: read right above where OPTIONS starts around line 117
[12:31] <gonzobrains> how is it off topic?
[12:31] <armann> gnomefreak, got a bunch of error messages, and then "could not find package" when i tried sudo apt-get install vlc
[12:31] <skynet> Hey guys, I'm trying to move a folder from my desktop into USR folder but i dont have permissions, how do i get permission
[12:31] <serge_> gonzobrains, openoffice as far as I know opens all MS Office documents and the same with Firefox and IE
[12:31] <eth0-noob> well cya later everyone bye now.
[12:31] <jossver> how to install Sun Java? I can't install the java_package package with apt-get because it can't find it.
[12:32] <mwe> _jason: all right. maybe I'm wrong. you win this one then
[12:32] <gonzobrains> serge: is open office already installed or do i have to add it?
[12:32] <_jason> mwe: both right :)
[12:32] <gonzobrains> i was wondering how up-to-date they keep open office with microsoft's latest file formats
[12:32] <serge_> gonzobrains, if you cant see it on the Ubuntu programs list under Office then its not there
[12:32] <IdleOne> jossver, wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:32] <tristanmike> jossver: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:32] <gonzobrains> serge: got it thanx
[12:33] <gnomefreak> armann: did you do as i said above?
[12:33] <yeti_> hi... i can install kde on ubuntu and gnome on kubuntu, right?
[12:33] <serge_> gonzobrains, in anycase you could probably just do "sudo apt-get install openoffice"
[12:33] <mwe> _jason: I'm not familiar with adduser anyway. only useradd. confising naming though
[12:33] <jossver> yes, I read that - but it can't find java-package
[12:33] <IdleOne> yeti_, yes
[12:33] <serge_> gonzobrains, well your sorted then :)
[12:33] <skynet> How do I write to the USR Folder?
[12:33] <_jason> mwe: indeed
[12:33] <gonzobrains> "sorted" haha are you british?
[12:33] <tristanmike> jossver: have you enabled the universe/multiverse?
[12:33] <serge_> yup
[12:33] <yeti_> IdleOne: thx
[12:33] <gonzobrains> cool
[12:33] <jossver> tristanmike: not yet, this is a freshly installed system
[12:33] <serge_> :)
[12:33] <gonzobrains> well, i'm gonna give ubuntu a shot.  i really dont like XP anymore
[12:33] <tristanmike> jossver: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto?action=show&redirect=HowToEnableTheMultiverseRepositoryInUbuntu
[12:33] <gonzobrains> sad all my DJ apps are windows based though
[12:34] <duelboot> gnomefreak, remind me how to restart .bashrc please
[12:34] <serge_> gonzobrains, thats what a lot of people say, but it all depends on what the rest of the world is using too :)
[12:34] <IdleOne> yeti_, on gnome apt-get install kubuntu-desktop for kde and ubuntu-desktop on kde for gnome
[12:34] <gonzobrains> true true
[12:34] <armann> gnomefreak, yes i did
[12:34] <gnomefreak> armann: please paste your fixed sources.list file on pastebin
[12:34] <gholen> anyone here that has a Dell laptop with working sound and the soundship "HDA Intel Sigmatel" ?
[12:35] <armann> commented cd, commented out all the other lines starting with dev, and added multiverse to all lines that have universe
[12:35] <gnomefreak> duelboot: i dont know i didnt think it needed to be restarted
[12:35] <skynet> Can anybody tell me how I can put files from my desktop into the USR folder?
[12:35] <serge_> gonzobrains, I only use Windows for MSN Messenger, as aMSN etc sucks, it just looks horrible and Gaming because Wine and the other emulators never seem to work well enough to play anything I want them too
[12:35] <iceman> Has to be a freaking way to change the KDE or Gnome control bar ...
[12:35] <duelboot> gnomefreak I'm trying to reload it...added aliases and want to use them
[12:35] <mwe> iceman: control bar?
[12:35] <gnomefreak> armann: please paste it and the errors would be good to have
[12:35] <IdleOne> skynet, sudo mv /path/of/file /path/to/file
[12:35] <gonzobrains> serge: yeah, that's another thing...messengers
[12:35] <armann> gnomefreak, http://pastebin.com/641043
[12:35] <iceman> the applocation bar ..
[12:35] <gonzobrains> serge: i hate having so many friggin messengers. i wish i could consolidate them all
[12:36] <gonzobrains> or get all my friends to just use IRC or KDX
[12:36] <duelboot> anyone know how to reload .bashrc without rebooting?
[12:36] <serge_> gonzobrains, what do you normaly use in the form of messnegers?
[12:36] <gonzobrains> anyone use KDX here?
[12:36] <serge_> no what is KDX?
[12:36] <NickGarvey> !kdx
[12:36] <gonzobrains> http://www.haxial.com
[12:36] <gnomefreak> armann: give me an idea on the errors please
[12:36] <gonzobrains> like modern-day bbs'ing over the internet
[12:36] <iceman> mwe the stupid little k icon in kde ... and the stupid basic gnome application bar in gnome
[12:36] <konfuzed> duelboot logout login
[12:36] <armann> gnomefreak, http://pastebin.com/641045
[12:36] <duelboot> konfuzed, thx but there's a way to do it without that
[12:36] <serge_> iceman, its not only gnome and kde you know
[12:36] <mwe> iceman: of course there is
[12:36] <serge_> there is fluxbox and some others too
[12:36] <duelboot> let's see what google says
[12:37] <iceman> mwe never have been able to change these stupid generic ones
[12:37] <gnomefreak> armann: take the is. away from the repos please
[12:37] <armann> you crazy?
[12:37] <duelboot> all it's 'source .bashrc'
[12:37] <tspier2> Alright, well I have a problem. When I was using Version 4. something of Ubuntu, it ran great. The base system was perfect for me, because it enabled me to install anything I wanted. Then I install version 5.10, download some source code, and go to install it. It starts giving me errors about the command "make" and "make install". So then I installed the package that controls those two commands with sudo apt-get install. Once
[12:37] <tspier2>  I did that, I go to install something again, and I continually get errors about the makefile. I hardly see how every single program I try to install could be screwed up, so the only logical thing is something messed up with make and make install. Can someone please help me?
[12:37] <mwe> iceman: http://mikkelerup.homepage.dk/shot.png
[12:37] <jossver> how to install Flash Player on Firefox?
[12:37] <gnomefreak> armann: no im not
[12:37] <mwe> iceman: that's my desktop
[12:37] <serge_> gonzobrains, well I'd say if you use irc, msn and icq to use Gaim, though it's horrible it has all the support needed. But as you use weird chat protocols etc looks like you have to use the standalone software
[12:37] <gnomefreak> armann: im not goona screw up your system
[12:37] <armann> gnomefreak, then i will have to pay for downloading..
[12:38] <iceman> mwe thanks ill take a look
[12:38] <gnomefreak> armann: no
[12:38] <gonzobrains> weird chat protocols?
[12:38] <_jason> jossver: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:38] <armann> gnomefreak, yes, im in iceland, and i pay for stuff outside iceland
[12:38] <gonzobrains> i use AIM, MSN, and Yahoo!
[12:38] <NickGarvey> me and GAIM are good friends
[12:38] <gonzobrains> KDX: i dont mind using KDX standalone.  it's much more than just chat. it's file sharing, chatting, remote computer access, etc.
[12:38] <gnomefreak> armann: yuck i didnt know iceland had lawa on that
[12:38] <gonzobrains> what is GAIM exactly? and why does it suck?
[12:38] <gnomefreak> laws
[12:39] <armann> still cant find the package
[12:39] <gonzobrains> how did the makers reverse-engineer the msn, aim, etc. protocols?
[12:39] <iceman> mwe how ddi you change the icon on the KDE application bar
[12:39] <duelboot> Hey, NickGarvey, you could have helped me, but I found it...added an alias so I could stop typing 'sudo apt-get XXXX' all the time
[12:39] <skynet> IdleOne: i cant get it to work, i have an extracted folder called USR on my desktop that i want to overwrite the systems USR file with
[12:39] <tristanmike> gonzobrains: gaim is a IM chat client that handle many protocols such as aim, msn, yahoo
[12:39] <gnomefreak> _jason: know anything about iceland?
[12:39] <gonzobrains> tristanmike: is gaim stable?
[12:39] <armann> its not all bad, i just made a 12 month contract with my ISP, and the next month every bloody ISP had free downloading outside iceland D:
[12:39] <_jason> gnomefreak: it's near greenland
[12:39] <mwe> iceman: I installed a different theme, but you can replace the icon with anotherone manually
[12:39] <tristanmike> gonzobrains: yeah, of course
[12:39] <gnomefreak> lol _jason
[12:40] <tristanmike> gonzobrains: it's included by default under Internet
[12:40] <gonzobrains> tristanmike: does it only support limited chatting or everything like audibles, image sharing, etc.?
[12:40] <gnomefreak> armann: hold on a min i have a feeling icelands repos are down
[12:40] <iceman> mwe can you add any size icon .... would like a bit of a Winblows feel to the button ... "Large" where i can find it ..
[12:40] <mwe> iceman: /usr/share/icons/*/*/apps/kcmkicker.png
[12:40] <gonzobrains> tristanmike:  i see it. i will hafta try it out
[12:40] <armann> i removed the is., but still nothing
[12:41] <tristanmike> gonzobrains: ...not sure about audibles, don't use yahoo that much, filesharing is semi-ok
[12:41] <triage> Is sound juicer just really slow at ripping a cd, or does ripping at 1.7x mean i screwed something up during install
[12:41] <armann> also, i have the files, which i found with some package search in firefox, but dont know how to extract them
[12:41] <tristanmike> gonzobrains: does not support web cam at this time
[12:41] <gonzobrains> tristanmike: i guess basic chat will work for now.
[12:41] <gonzobrains> i'm just getting sick of microsoft
[12:41] <gonzobrains> i hate doing the "your program has shut down, click to send error report" shit all the time
[12:41] <tristanmike> gonzobrains: that's where I'm at
[12:41] <mwe> iceman: I think kde uses the icon size that mathes the toolbar. you want a wider one or what?
[12:41] <swalchy> erm, hi
[12:42] <tristanmike> gonzobrains: please watch your language, this is a family channel, :)
[12:42] <gonzobrains> what do you guys use in ubuntu to do automatic file backups?
[12:42] <NickGarvey> hello swalchy what can we do for you?
[12:42] <iceman> mwe yea wider ...
[12:42] <gonzobrains> sorry about that.  my bad.
[12:42] <swalchy> hi, I'm complete new to linux and Ubuntu
[12:42] <armann> gnomefreak, if i have the files, could you tell me how to extract them?
[12:42] <swalchy> just installing it right now atm
[12:42] <swalchy> quick question
[12:42] <gonzobrains> how does ubuntu compare to red hat?
[12:42] <armann> gnomefreak, honestly, cant seem to find the commands anywhere
[12:42] <NickGarvey> swalchy: ask away
[12:42] <tristanmike> gonzobrains: no worries, we have all been known to use colourful language from time to time ;P
[12:42] <swalchy> what's this "erase parttions and use LVM"
[12:42] <tspier2> gonzobrains, Ubuntu > Redhat
[12:42] <swalchy> what's LVM?
[12:42] <gonzobrains> tspier2 hahahaha
[12:42] <NickGarvey> gonzobrains: try it and find out, I picked ubuntu over red hat, but thats an opinion
[12:42] <tristanmike> gonzobrains: Ubuntu pwns Redhat
[12:43] <gonzobrains> i am trying ubuntu right now.
[12:43] <mwe> iceman: I don't know if you can do that easily. I have never tried
[12:43] <NickGarvey> swalchy: low volume manager
[12:43] <swalchy> as in, small HDD?
[12:43] <gonzobrains> is it still correct to assume that ubuntu can run better on older machines where XP would crap out on?
[12:43] <gonzobrains> i can say crap right?
[12:43] <tspier2> Yep
[12:43] <NickGarvey> logical**
[12:43] <NickGarvey> http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/whatislvm.html
[12:43] <Toran> hey guys, how do I play midis in ubuntu? When I open them up in a midi player it looks like it should be playing but nothing comes out of my speakers.
[12:43] <cafuego_> !test
[12:43] <tspier2> I don't know about the "crap" saying, but about the first question, yes.
[12:43] <Toran> I have no other apparent sound problems
[12:43] <iceman> mwe where does KDE keep the normal icons ...
[12:44] <mwe> iceman: but at least you can replace the krappy default icon
[12:44] <mwe> iceman: /usr/share/icons/crystalsvg/*/*/kcmkicker.png
[12:44] <swalchy> what does it actually do?
[12:44] <iceman> mwe yea that default one gets pld fast
[12:44] <gonzobrains> i would like to take a bunch of my old computers (pentium 2s and 3s) with 1 gig hard drives and minimal memory and set them up for internet access for children, charities, etc.
[12:44] <mwe> iceman: where the first * is your current theme
[12:44] <gonzobrains> besides saying "ubuntu pwns red hat" can anyone give me specifics?
[12:44] <mwe> iceman: the second is a size like 32x32
[12:44] <dsl_> Hello, can I uipgrade from sarge to ubuntu?
[12:45] <mwe> iceman: that's the kicker pixmap
[12:45] <NickGarvey> dsl_: sarge is debian right?
[12:45] <cafuego_> gonzobrains: the deb system management tools are much nicer than the rpm ones.
[12:45] <jossver> NickGarvey: yes
[12:45] <dsl_> Yes, debian current.
[12:45] <scott_> anyone have a dapper box with their first user that they haven't changed the groups on? can you type groups and tell me what it says? I think I messed mine up
[12:45] <lemino> i need a tool to be able to set brightness for my ATI x300se-card. anyone knows one?
[12:45] <gonzobrains> ok
[12:45] <NickGarvey> dsl_: not really, need to do a new install
 I'm currently installing ubuntu on an old pentium 2 with a 4 GB HDD on
[12:45] <jossver> dsl_: Open your sources.list and replace sarge with breezy, and remove the debian-only things in your list
[12:45] <swalchy> I'll tell you how it goes lol
[12:45] <swalchy> laptop too
[12:45] <gonzobrains> can i use ubuntu in an embedded environment or is there a better solution?
[12:45] <dsl_> jossver: K.
[12:45] <gonzobrains> swalchy: that's dope!
[12:45] <jossver> dsl_: then apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade; it's not guaranteed to work, but you might give it a try
[12:45] <lancia> is it against the law to sell open software?
[12:45] <mwe> gonzobrains: you can
[12:46] <swalchy> huh?
[12:46] <gnomefreak> armann: please paste this list in place of yours i wanna see if the ic repos are down http://pastebin.com/641058
[12:46] <_jason> lancia: no
[12:46] <Agrajag> lancia: no
[12:46] <cafuego_> gonzobrains: Depends on the hardware specs; generally I'd say there would be a better solution.
[12:46] <NickGarvey> lancia: no
[12:46] <NickGarvey> I felt left out
[12:46] <mwe> gonzobrains: in fact it's not uncommen. but i'm not into the details
[12:46] <dsl_> jossver: Thanks!
[12:46] <cafuego_> !test
[12:46] <ubotu> Stop poking me!
[12:46] <lancia> i was looking at some medical software that is open but they are selling it. maybe it is value added?
[12:46] <NickGarvey> yes!
[12:46] <NickGarvey> !hug
[12:46] <ubotu> ubotu gives nickgarvey a hug.  There, there, is that better?
[12:46] <swalchy> Another quick Q:
[12:46] <tristanmike> !botsnack
[12:46] <ubotu> :)
[12:47] <Agrajag> lancia: are they selling support, or just the media, or what?
[12:47] <swalchy> Does Ubuntu support Linksys wireless network cards?
[12:47] <jossver> aaaaah
[12:47] <jossver> ubotu is back
[12:47] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, jossver
[12:47] <NickGarvey> !Wireless
[12:47] <ubotu> I guess wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers
[12:47] <IdleOne> !wifi
[12:47] <ubotu> rumour has it, wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[12:47] <lancia> http://www.synitech.com/openemr/index.php
[12:47] <Agrajag> either way it's probably fine, depending on the license
[12:47] <tspier2> Alright, well I have a problem. When I was using Version 4. something of Ubuntu, it ran great. The base system was perfect for me, because it enabled me to install anything I wanted. Then I install version 5.10, download some source code, and go to install it. It starts giving me errors about the command "make" and "make install". So then I installed the package that controls those two commands with sudo apt-get install. Once
[12:47] <tspier2>  I did that, I go to install something again, and I continually get errors about the makefile. I hardly see how every single program I try to install could be screwed up, so the only logical thing is something messed up with make and make install. Can someone please help me?
[12:47] <NickGarvey> swalchy: 2 links up there ^
[12:47] <NickGarvey> SPAM
[12:47] <apokryphos> cafuego: heh. What had happened? :)
[12:48] <_harm> hi i just insterted my Mp3 player but i cant seem to delete or move files onto it... its like frozen moving. Its not an ipod its hould b plug n play
[12:48] <armann> gnomefreak, wtf.. still cant find vlc
[12:48] <Agrajag> lancia: looks like you're paying for the documentation/support/external HDD
[12:48] <cafuego_> apokryphos: dunno, the log just stopped and blootbot wasn't running. I blame perl.
[12:48] <mwe> tspier2: install build-essential for starters
[12:48] <gnomefreak> armann: did you run sudo apt-get update
[12:48] <gonzobrains> cafuego:  well, i worked for a company that used red hat to make slot machines
[12:48] <lancia> ahh ok thanks
[12:48] <lancia> :)
[12:48] <tspier2> mwe, that is what I installed.
[12:48] <lemino> anyone, tool for setting my ATI-card's brightness?
[12:48] <gonzobrains> apparently it was okay to use as long as they published the parts of the kernel they had to modify
[12:48] <chanakya> tspier2: compiling is not a good option for starters and you will noever get away with dependencies
[12:48] <mwe> tspier2: and what kind of errors do you get?
[12:48] <cafuego_> gonzobrains: indeed.
[12:48] <gnomefreak> armann: its in universe repo
[12:49] <apokryphos> cafuego: evil indeed =)
[12:49] <gonzobrains> but could you scale back ubuntu to just run embedded
[12:49] <lancia> that is a very clever idea!
[12:49] <Agrajag> lancia: and under the GPL, you can charge anything you want for the software, if you provide the source code and give all the same redistribution rights to anyone you sell it to
[12:49] <tspier2> mwe, let me quick find you one...
[12:49] <chanakya> tspier2: for starters it`s always better to use apt-get
[12:49] <odin> how do I change my DNS server?
[12:49] <mwe> tspier2: btw I'd advise you to use checkinstall to install the programs
[12:49] <gonzobrains> mwe: it's not uncommon?  anywhere i can look for resources?
[12:49] <cafuego_> gonzobrains: You could, but why not use a distro that IS already scaled back?
[12:49] <Agrajag> I don't know that that is the license they're using here though
[12:49] <swalchy> wow
[12:49] <swalchy> now I've completely lost where I am..
[12:49] <NickGarvey> swalchy: scroll up
[12:49] <vladuz976> hi, i set up a crontab to run a shell script everyday at a certain time, but it didn't run the script? how can i find out what's wrong?
[12:49] <NickGarvey> !tell swalchy about wifi
[12:49] <armann> gnomefreak,  anyways, if i already have the files, which i downloaded from some package thingie in firefox, how do i extract it?
[12:49] <NickGarvey> !tell swalchy about wireless
[12:49] <chanakya> odin: sudo neat
[12:49] <gonzobrains> cafuego:  that's what i'm asking.  what's the best distro for that?
[12:50] <armann> gnomefreak, .deb files
[12:50] <gnomefreak> armann: what type of format are they?
[12:50] <lancia> well then this means that anyone in here could sell Ubuntu or Kubuntu???
[12:50] <gonzobrains> it would be for a headless application
[12:50] <cafuego_> gonzobrains: Again, that depends on your hardware.
[12:50] <mwe> gnomefreak: I know some mobile phones use linux, but like I said I'm not into the details.
[12:50] <tspier2> mwe, here is an example error I get...
[12:50] <tspier2> make[2] : *** [install-binPROGRAMS]  Error 1
[12:50] <tspier2> make[2] : Leaving directory `/home/troy/Desktop/supertux-0.1.3/src'
[12:50] <tspier2> make[1] : *** [install-am]  Error 2
[12:50] <tspier2> make[1] : Leaving directory `/home/troy/Desktop/supertux-0.1.3/src'
[12:50] <tspier2> make: *** [install-recursive]  Error 1
[12:50] <NickGarvey> lancia: yessir
[12:50] <gnomefreak> armann: to install .debs you run sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[12:50] <NickGarvey> !paste
[12:50] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[12:50] <gonzobrains> basic x86 process or maybe ARM, serial ports and ethernet
[12:50] <lancia> but that doenst sound right...
[12:50] <gnomefreak> lol mwe ;)
[12:50] <armann> http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=i386&file=pool%2Funiverse%2Fv%2Fvlc%2Fvlc_0.8.4-svn20050920-3%2Bhal0ubuntu3_i386.deb&md5sum=ee8472179edc9ee3aa2e4ea12c0c1595&arch=i386&type=main
[12:50] <odin> chanakya: what's sudo neat?  I'm completely new to Linux
[12:50] <NickGarvey> lancia: why would people buy something that is free?
[12:50] <cafuego_> gonzobrains: ram/storage?
[12:50] <NickGarvey> !tell odin about sido
[12:50] <mwe> tspier2: how about sudo apt-get install supertux?
[12:50] <NickGarvey> !tell odin about sudo
[12:51] <gnomefreak> NickGarvey: no bot
[12:51] <gnomefreak> lol
[12:51] <gonzobrains> prolly like 128 meg flash and 2 megs RAM, maybe 256k non volatile
[12:51] <NickGarvey> !test
[12:51] <ubotu> Crashed.
[12:51] <mwe> tspier2: also don't paste in here. you'll get banned
[12:51] <IdleOne> ubotu, is back
[12:51] <ubotu> IdleOne: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:51] <lancia> people do that all the time.
[12:51] <lancia> but i agree
[12:51] <swalchy> thanks nick - IO've managed to find the driver I need for it
[12:51] <tspier2> mwe, sorry. I didn't know.
[12:51] <chanakya> odin well neat is a program that helps you set networkinh
[12:51] <swalchy> too bad it's not included on the Ubunut CD
[12:51] <Dele2> prblems installing mplayer. can anyone give me some advice
[12:51] <mwe> tspier2: use pastebin.com or something like that
[12:51] <gnomefreak> huh when did he come back?
[12:51] <cafuego_> gonzobrains: You're not going to be able to run Ubuntu in 2MB ram.
[12:51] <tspier2> Okay
[12:51] <NickGarvey> swalchy: theres not room for thousands of wireless drivers
[12:51] <lancia> are any of these linux distros bootable from a memory usb stick?
[12:51] <chanakya> odin: or go to system --> networking
[12:51] <swalchy> what media player does Ubuntu use?
[12:51] <cafuego_> gonzobrains: You'll need a highly tuned tiny kernel.
[12:51] <gnomefreak> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo?highlight=%28rootsudo%29  <<<info on sudo
[12:51] <armann> oh well.. shower
[12:52] <tspier2> lacnia, damn small linux is a good one for usb stick.
[12:52] <tristanmike> swalchy: Rhythmbox
[12:52] <swalchy> Is it more customizable than windows media player? I'm gonna go with yes
[12:52] <tspier2> lancia*
[12:52] <IdleOne> !tell gnomefreak about bot
[12:52] <IdleOne> :)
[12:52] <tristanmike> swalchy: "sudo apt-get install amarok"
[12:52] <lancia> thanks for the info!
[12:52] <gnomefreak> lol IdleOne  he was gone for the longest time
[12:52] <gonzobrains> i'm sorry that was a typo.  128 MB
[12:52] <tspier2> lancia, I also think Knoppix might boot from a usb stick.
[12:52] <IdleOne> gnomefreak, he came back bout 5 minutes ago
[12:53] <gonzobrains> cafuego i've got 128 MB RAM
[12:53] <NickGarvey> (18:45:50) ubotu [n=blootbot@ubuntu.cc.com.au]  entered the room.
[12:53] <lancia> excellent
[12:53] <cafuego_> gonzobrains: that'd do it.
[12:53] <mwe> gonzobrains: my router runs linux (linksys) I don't know how much ram it has though ;)
[12:53] <cafuego_> gonzobrains: I'd still have a bit of a google for embedded Linux distros, though, if I were you.
[12:53] <gonzobrains> cafuego_ but i don't have any need for graphics, etc...just want to make a headless app
[12:53] <cafuego_> mwe: They typically have in between 4 and 16mb.
[12:53] <tspier2> mwe, there we go. Thanks. I need to remember to use apt-get instead of going from source right away.
[12:54] <mwe> tspier2: yeah use apt-cache search first
[12:54] <gonzobrains> cafuego_ : good idea. thanks
[12:54] <zerokarmaleft> hmm, dapper changes to the gdm screen are strange
[12:54] <korhalf> where can i edit the fonts and make them easier to read on an LCD?
[12:54] <mwe> tspier2: enable !universe and !multiverse too if you haven't for loads of more crap
[12:55] <tspier2> Okay
[12:55] <eternaljoy-> when I dial in to internet, many times modem starts downloading, I believe its "update" something!  How can I stop it doing this automatically?
[12:55] <mwe> tspier2: (and none crap as well)
[12:55] <eternaljoy-> cafuego: any ideas? :)
[12:55] <gonzobrains> cafuego_ you in cali?
[12:55] <Dele2> when starting mplayer i get the following error " new face failed. maybe the font path is wrong please supply the text font file ~/.mplayer/subfont.ttf" what do i do?
[12:55] <eternaljoy-> Dele2: supply the font path :)
[12:55] <cafuego_> gonzobrains: things like Ubuntu have kernels with *ALL* features enabled for a large range of desktop machines. Same goes fo the userapce apps. You can fix that by rebuilding, but on specialised distros, others do that, so you don't need to bother :-)
[12:55] <cafuego_> gonzobrains: Han, .au
[12:56] <tatum> Hi guys! Is there a kernel guru among you?
[12:56] <gonzobrains> cafuego_ : thanks
[12:56] <eth0-noob> um
[12:56] <eternaljoy-> cafuego: when I dial in to internet, many times modem starts downloading, I believe its "update" something!  How can I stop it doing this automatically?
[12:56] <swalchy> How long have you all been using linux for then?
[12:56] <eth0-noob> does anyone know if theres an automatix thing for dapper drake?
[12:56] <gnomefreak> !automatix
[12:56] <ubotu> I guess automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[12:56] <gnomefreak> and no
[12:56] <eternaljoy-> !turn off auto update
[12:56] <ubotu> eternaljoy-: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:56] <jadaz87> can someone help me with my Palm/Linux Sync problem
[12:56] <eth0-noob> heh
[12:57] <eternaljoy-> !turnoffautoupdate
[12:57] <liable> eternaljoy-: what makes you say that??
[12:57] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, eternaljoy-
[12:57] <Dele2> how do i supply the font path? what file do i edit?
[12:57] <eternaljoy-> liable: say what?
[12:57] <mwe> gonzobrains: maybe something like DSL
[12:57] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell eth0-noob about easyubuntu
[12:57] <Seveas> eth0-noob, automatix should be avoided like the plague
[12:57] <liable> eternaljoy-: that it starts downloading something?
[12:57] <eternaljoy-> liable: my auto update is on and its annyoing!  I want to update manually
[12:57] <cafuego_> !easyubuntu
[12:57] <ubotu> easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu
[12:57] <NickGarvey> friends don't let friends use automatix
[12:57] <liable> eternaljoy-: so turn it off..
[12:57] <eternaljoy-> liable: HOW???? :P
[12:57] <eternaljoy-> liable: thats my question! HOW do I turn it off?
[12:58] <adwr> to anyone and all: Any good/innovative ideas when creating swap partition?
[12:58] <adwr> the reason I ask is that I have read somewhere that dividing my swap into two partitions, each on different disks and channels might result in speed increase...
[12:58] <swalchy> I so just killed the conversation
[12:58] <cafuego_> liable: It might try to run an apt-get update when it detects a network connection, if it hasn't been online for a while.
[12:58] <liable> eternaljoy-: no idea, didnt even know there was automatic updates.
[12:58] <TruckerMan> okay, if anybody feels like helping me...i lspci -v and get all kinds of information on my wireless pci card and it mostly matches with alot of help/howto listings but doesnt match any of them completely, this could be just due to typoes?  and what should i do now?  just install ndiswrapper or what?
[12:58] <_jason_> Dele2: install mplayer-fonts
[12:58] <eternaljoy-> liable: you must be new to ubuntu then!
[12:58] <eternaljoy-> does anyone know how to turn off auto update?
[12:58] <liable> eternaljoy-: yes, i guess. :)
[12:58] <zerokarmaleft> eternaljoy-: System | Software Properties | Internet Updates
[12:58] <eternaljoy-> zerokarmaleft: ok thanks
[12:59] <eternaljoy-> zerokarmaleft: I dont see  System | Software Properties
[12:59] <gonzobrains> mwe : DSL?
[12:59] <paradiseLost> is there a site for downloading soundcard drivers for ubuntu?
[12:59] <mwe> gonzobrains: damn small linux
[12:59] <eternaljoy-> zerokarmaleft: I only have  System | prefernces and  System | Administation
[12:59] <Cooner750> My IRC software keeps going off...
[12:59] <liable> paradiseLost: alsa.org on sourceforge
[12:59] <gonzobrains> mwe: ahh, yes, i've heard of that briefly. thanxx
[12:59] <cafuego_> If anyone is old enough to remember TTD and was addicted to it, OpenTTD is the coolest thing ever,
[12:59] <eternaljoy-> zerokarmaleft: I dont see Internet Updates ANYWHERE! im using Breezy
[12:59] <mwe> gonzobrains: I believe there is an embedded version
[12:59] <cva> using gnome, is there a way to adjust the scroll wheel rate? the mouse preference doesn't have an option for it.
[01:00] <eternaljoy-> zerokarmaleft: well?
[01:00] <Cooner750> Is there any way to fix a problem where Ubuntu freezes during boot, besides reinstalling?
[01:00] <gonzobrains> does anyone remember an online BBS text game called "geopolitics"?
[01:00] <liable> Cooner750: wheres it freeze?
[01:00] <mwe> Cooner750: determine the problem first or it might persist
[01:00] <NickGarvey> cafuego_: is it in the repos?
[01:00] <iceman> mwe dang how to change the stupid icon ... :( premission to move a image to that location
[01:00] <zerokarmaleft> eternaljoy-: System | Administration | Update Manager | Preferences | Settings
[01:00] <eternaljoy-> hi :) does anyone know how to turn off auto update?
[01:01] <eternaljoy-> zerokarmaleft: ok ty :)
[01:01] <mwe> iceman: sudo -i to get a root prompt
[01:01] <cafuego_> NickGarvey: No, but there's a .deb (you need a copy of the original game too, though)
[01:01] <Cooner750> At the step "Setting up ALSA card 0....... OK"    It's installed and configured to run on a USB external harddrive and worked fine until a power outage while it was running
[01:01] <Cooner750> The step before that "Configuring network interfaces" it never says OK on
[01:01] <mwe> iceman: or use sudo in front of every command
[01:01] <liable> Cooner750: then it just hangs?? try a fsck?
[01:01] <eternaljoy-> zerokarmaleft: ok I unticked auto update :)  So now I need to type apt-get update regularly, correct?
[01:02] <iceman> how to get gimp running in sudo
[01:02] <Xenguy> iceman: sudo -i sounds easier :p
[01:02] <mwe> iceman: you should need that
[01:02] <Xenguy> iceman: you don't want GIMP running in sudo I don't think
[01:02] <mwe> iceman: copy the file to your homedir
[01:02] <TruckerMan> too many people in here
[01:02] <zerokarmaleft> eternaljoy-: yes, you have to manually update and upgrade
[01:02] <Cooner750> Where can I get it to go to a command propmt to to fsck?
[01:02] <Xenguy> TruckerMan: yes - go away :P   ;-)
[01:02] <eternaljoy-> zerokarmaleft: ok, thanks :)
[01:02] <eternaljoy-> bye
[01:02] <Cooner750> to do*
[01:02] <mwe> iceman: then edit it. then make a backup of the original and copy the new one back
[01:02] <phaidros> how to tell beagle not to run with --debug ?
[01:03] <cafuego_> phaidros: edit /usr/bin/beagle
[01:03] <Xenguy> !tell Cooner750 about terminal
[01:03] <mwe> iceman: changing owner/group to root on the way
[01:03] <liable> Cooner750: use a live cd
[01:03] <TruckerMan> Xenguy, your increasing my roadrage
[01:03] <Xenguy> TruckerMan: heheh
[01:03] <phaidros> cafuego, didn't expect that to be a script :) thanx
[01:03] <TruckerMan> what kind of car do you drive?
[01:03] <DragonRidr> hi all
[01:03] <NickGarvey> hello
[01:03] <jadaz87> hello
[01:03] <pgavin> would someone be able to help me with getting dri working on my IBM ThinkPad T30?
[01:03] <cafuego_> phaidros: also do beagled-helper and beagle-search
[01:04] <pgavin> its got an ATI Mobility Radeon 7500
[01:04] <iceman> dang lost the location of the K icon usr/apt/ ? ? ?
[01:04] <NickGarvey> !ati
[01:04] <ubotu> I guess ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[01:04] <mwe> iceman: o run on a USB external harddrive and worked fine  until a power outage while it was running
[01:04] <mwe> 01:01 <mwe> iceman: or use sudo in front of every command
[01:04] <mwe> sorry!
[01:04] <liable> the 7500 is supported natively
[01:04] <phaidros> cafuego, where are the two located?
[01:04] <pgavin> NickGarvey, the card isn't supported by the ati firegl drivers
[01:04] <DragonRidr> hate to come to a new room and have to ask for help but sure could use some.
[01:05] <mwe> iceman: /usr/share/icons/*/*/apps/kcmkicker.png
[01:05] <iceman> where i that k icon on the panal again
[01:05] <pgavin> NickGarvey, its supposed to use the radeon driver
[01:05] <Xenguy> DragonRidr: this is a technical support channel - ask away
[01:05] <mwe> iceman: /usr/share/icons/*/*/apps/kcmkicker.png
[01:05] <IdleOne> DragonRidr, what do you need help with
[01:05] <NickGarvey> pgavin: eh I don't know anything about graphics cards, I just know how to use ubotu ;)
[01:05] <iceman> may have it .. ?
[01:06] <pgavin> NickGarvey, :)
[01:06] <DragonRidr> thanks Xenguy ...i still hate to ask but i am haveing trouble dureing the install of ubantu. dureing the partation step
[01:06] <swalchy> Is Ubuntu supposed to take this long when it first boots up?
[01:06] <NickGarvey> swalchy: takes very little time for me
[01:06] <mwe> iceman: I think it will stretch or schrink your icon if it doesn't fit the default size though
[01:06] <IdleOne> swalchy, how long does it take?
[01:06] <swalchy> Well
[01:06] <swalchy> it's been taking about 5-10 mins
[01:06] <NickGarvey> swalchy: what does it seem to lag on
[01:06] <Xenguy> DragonRidr: post details to the channel and someone will (hopefully) answer
[01:06] <swalchy> it's an old laptop
[01:06] <swalchy> Pentium 2, 64 MB ram, 4 GB HDD
[01:06] <TruckerMan> swalchy mine hangs on hotplugs settings every now and then and i have to hard reboot
[01:06] <NickGarvey> swalchy: like what is it on that is making it lag?
[01:06] <IdleOne> swalchy, thats a long time but yeah it could I guess
[01:07] <swalchy> It's only the first time booting up
[01:07] <TruckerMan> did it on first boot too
[01:07] <swalchy> hang at hotplug settings?
[01:07] <TruckerMan> shut down restart and if finished installing
[01:07] <swalchy> sounds like a bug
[01:07] <mwe> TruckerMan: In a few months we'll all be freed from the hotplug nightmares
[01:07] <iceman> brb i hope this works
[01:07] <swalchy> what is, hotplug?
[01:07] <Xenguy> mwe: why?
[01:08] <master1> hey i need help with screen resolution
[01:08] <mwe> Xenguy: because in dapper it's gone
[01:08] <swalchy> that like, plug n play?
[01:08] <DragonRidr> okay when i get to partaioning i went to manual partioning as i have and am useing winxp at this time. i have a 250 gig sata drive partationed into 3 partation. winxp on first one. got ext3 set on 2cd one and 3rd to fat32. ide drive i got set to swap.
[01:08] <Xenguy> mwe: what is the alternative then?
[01:08] <IdleOne> !tell master1 about fixres
[01:08] <DragonRidr> but i cant get past that as i get the errorno root file system difined
[01:08] <iceman> mwe nope did not work
[01:08] <IdleOne> swalchy, yeah
[01:08] <mwe> iceman: you replaced the wrong file then
[01:08] <swalchy> so dapper doesn't have plug n play?
[01:09] <swalchy> @ mwe
[01:09] <cafuego_> well, that was interesting.
[01:09] <zerokarmaleft> DragonRidr: you need to specify your ext3 partition's mount point as /
[01:09] <mwe> swalchy: ?
[01:09] <cafuego_> Xgl locks up when you adjust the system time.
[01:09] <iceman> to dantg bad you cant drag and drop
[01:09] <swalchy> you said dapper doesn't have hotplugs
[01:09] <swalchy> yeah?
[01:09] <NickGarvey> !hotplug
[01:09] <ubotu> NickGarvey: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:09] <cafuego_> swalchy: No, it uses something else.
[01:09] <mwe> cafuego_: do you what has replaced hotplug in dapper?
[01:10] <swalchy> ooo
[01:10] <swalchy> that took only 1 min to get pas tthe first bit
[01:10] <TruckerMan> will that 'something else' recognize my wireless card?
[01:10] <DragonRidr> zerokarmaleft does that set it for the partation leval or full drive leval ?? sorry i am slow on that
[01:10] <swalchy> hehe
[01:10] <swalchy> I'm like kid with a christmas present
[01:10] <Seveas> mwe, udev
[01:11] <cafuego_> mwe:  dbus/hal/udev
[01:11] <swalchy> oh
[01:11] <swalchy> it's gone onto "installing packages"
[01:11] <swalchy> how long should this take?
[01:11] <sonic> is there anyone here that can help me?
[01:11] <Xenguy> DragonRidr: patience, because frankly certain partitioning scenarios (in my humble experience) are a bit confusing (simpler is better :-)
[01:11] <IdleOne> swalchy, less then the rest of the night
[01:11] <swalchy> sonic - there's hundreds
[01:11] <zerokarmaleft> DragonRidr: at the partition level
[01:11] <TruckerMan> anybody had any luck with ndiswrapper on a Lynksys Wireless card?
[01:11] <swalchy> ..thanks, idleOne
[01:11] <master1> just b4 i restarted it it was 1024*768 now its 640*400
[01:11] <swalchy> Truckerman - I'm gonna be trying that soon
[01:11] <Steveire> hello
[01:11] <swalchy> infact
[01:11] <IdleOne> swalchy, depends but about 15 minutes for me
[01:11] <Xenguy> mwe: udev, gotcha
[01:11] <TruckerMan> swalchy, how soon?
[01:12] <sonic> I have a problem with my internet connection, pages are taking ages to load, sometimes they dont at all
[01:12] <sonic> its a wired connection through my router
[01:12] <swalchy> once it's finished installing Ubuntu on my laptop :P
[01:12] <IdleOne> !tell sonic about ipv6
[01:12] <DragonRidr> np Xenguy i am in no hurry lol have waited 3 days for a reply in the forums before looking elsewhere for help
[01:12] <swalchy> infact
[01:12] <swalchy> go
[01:12] <swalchy> http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List
[01:12] <TruckerMan> heh
[01:12] <master1>  just b4 i restarted it it was 1024*768 now its 640*400
[01:12] <Steveire> i installed fedora a few weeks ago, now i want to start again with ubuntu
[01:12] <Dele> okay i have installed the mplayer fonts. mplayer allows me select a media file but does not play it. it does not progress from the start of the song nor is there any sound. Sound does work if i use rhythmbox
[01:12] <Steveire> good idea?
[01:12] <swalchy> and do a search for your linksys card
[01:12] <swalchy> should give you a driver for it
[01:12] <Xenguy> DragonRidr: my, you *are* patient :-)
[01:12] <sonic> yeah I read about that
[01:12] <sonic> but
[01:12] <zerokarmaleft> DragonRidr: when you're looking at the partition details, you select what kind of filesystem you're using, whether or not to format it, where to mount it, etc.
[01:12] <DragonRidr> zerokarmaleft thanks that is what i wasnt sure about and didnt want to loose the install of windows. since i just installed the sata drive
[01:13] <sonic> i need root permission or something in the console
[01:13] <TruckerMan> swalchy, its vague
[01:13] <IdleOne> sonic use sudo
[01:13] <zerokarmaleft> DragonRidr: just make sure you're windows partitions are set at "Keep existing data"
[01:13] <IdleOne> !tell sonic about sudo
[01:13] <swalchy> how do you mean?
[01:13] <TruckerMan> that list is full of typoes or else i have a one of a kind card
[01:13] <mwe> sonic: sudo. sudo -i to get a root prompt
[01:13] <iceman> mwe name of the icon ?
[01:13] <swalchy> just do Ctrl+F - type in card number, search
[01:13] <zerokarmaleft> DragonRidr: which is what the installer sets by default, iirc
[01:13] <sonic> thanks alot!
[01:13] <swalchy> how I found mine
[01:13] <DragonRidr> that i can do zerokarmaleft lol 3 trys and didnt loose that
[01:13] <mwe> iceman: write it down :)
[01:13] <mwe> iceman: /usr/share/icons/*/*/apps/kcmkicker.png
[01:14] <Steveire> hi
[01:14] <swalchy> mines a WPC54G version 4 netword card
[01:14] <mwe> iceman: you have to replace the one for your current icon theme
[01:14] <iceman> dont see the * / * ? whats that part
[01:14] <sonic> i'm in!
[01:14] <sonic> lol
[01:14] <sonic> sorry for the cheesy hacker moment
[01:14] <DragonRidr> thanks Xenguy and zerokarmaleft for the help and info i am sure i can get it installed now that i know what i need to do. :))
[01:14] <mwe> iceman: then maybe switch icon theme to a different one and back. I'm not sure if it caches some icons
[01:15] <TruckerMan> mine almost matches about three of the dif lynksys...almost
[01:15] <DragonRidr> i dont mind playing with my system but try not to crash it from makeing choice with out the right info lol lol
[01:15] <TruckerMan> i should just go with the one it matches most?
[01:15] <TruckerMan> or will that make matters worse?
[01:15] <TruckerMan> if its wrong
[01:15] <mwe> iceman: I explained that already
[01:15] <Xenguy> DragonRidr: good luck
[01:16] <iceman> i'm lost ... navigatin ...
[01:16] <zerokarmaleft> DragonRidr: np
[01:16] <sonic> hi again
[01:16] <mwe> iceman: first * is the name of the icon theme. second is a size directory like 32x32
[01:16] <Angel_Dex> HI hi i need help with sound
[01:16] <sonic> i just tried to follow the instructions for disabling ipv6
[01:16] <sonic> it gives me a failed attempt
[01:16] <iceman> it's crystal
[01:16] <Cooner750> I have a important question
[01:16] <swalchy> yeah
[01:16] <sonic> (gedit:6554): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_display_pointer_ungrab: assertion `GDK_IS_DIS PLAY (display)' failed
[01:16] <sonic> (gedit:6554): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_display_keyboard_ungrab: assertion `GDK_IS_DI SPLAY (display)' failed
[01:16] <Angel_Dex> i bought a set of logitech x530s and their surround sound speakers dont work and they are kinda crackle
[01:16] <swalchy> the driver wont knacker the card
[01:16] <Angel_Dex> Y
[01:16] <mwe> iceman: crystalsvg?
[01:16] <DragonRidr> well i am off to do the install take care every one
[01:17] <swalchy> you can't knacker the actualy hardware with a driver
[01:17] <mwe> iceman: /usr/share/icons/crystalsvg/32x32/ or whatever the size it's using
[01:17] <iceman> the "K" is in what size icon ... yes the crystalsvg set current
[01:17] <Cooner750> Does anyobody here have the .zip of the drivers that work with ndiswrapper for the ZyXEL ZyAir G-302 PCI wireless card? The link on ZyXEL's site is broken and they will not respond to my emails
[01:17] <swalchy> should say on the back of the card what it is and what version
[01:18] <swalchy> Cooner: Try http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List
[01:18] <iceman> think i found it .. thanks
[01:18] <mwe> iceman: now I am confused as well maybe it's /usr/share/icons/crystalsvg/16x16/apps/kicker.png
[01:18] <TruckerMan> yeah? ok, what about ndiswrapper? i need that? and if so, whats the best/simplest way to install it?  i can d/l it to windows partition and run from there, what kind of package should i use?
[01:18] <Steveire> I installed lots of useful stuff on fedora. Will I have the same available if I install ubuntu?
[01:18] <swalchy> don't know about ndiswrapper, someone else would need to answer that
[01:18] <swalchy> I'm new to this too lol
[01:19] <IdleOne> Steveire, packages.ubuntu.com to search for the stuff you want
[01:19] <sonic> hmmm, does this make sense to anyone?
[01:19] <Cooner750> Just a error at http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List
[01:19] <sonic> (gedit:6554): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_display_pointer_ungrab: assertion `GDK_IS_DIS PLAY (display)' failed
[01:19] <sonic> (gedit:6554): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_display_keyboard_ungrab: assertion `GDK_IS_DI SPLAY (display)' failed
[01:19] <Steveire> it's as simple as yum is it?
[01:19] <swalchy> lol
[01:19] <docta_v> what's the best looking term app for linux these days?
[01:19] <IdleOne> Steveire, I guess it is :)
[01:19] <sonic> i followed the instructions  to the letter for disabling the ipv6
[01:19] <docta_v> is it still eterm? i'm looking for eye candy over functionality
[01:19] <Angel_Dex> i bought a set of logitech x530s and their surround sound speakers dont work and they are kinda crackle
[01:20] <mwe> docta_v: terminal emulater?
[01:20] <IdleOne> Steveire, there are over 18000 packages there so you prolly find what you want
[01:20] <docta_v> mwe: yea
[01:20] <mwe> docta_v: it depends on who you ask
[01:20] <Phlosten> sonic, they look like error messages for gedit
[01:20] <mwe> what the hell
[01:20] <swalchy> hope Ubuntu has drivers for my pico disk
[01:20] <swalchy> hey
[01:21] <sonic> what does that mean phlosten?
[01:21] <swalchy> the green helps distinguish what people are saying
[01:21] <Steveire> There's some issue with connecting to multiple repos with fedora. Is there a similar issue in ubuntu?
[01:21] <Phlosten> sonic, what instructions did you  follow?
[01:21] <tonyyarusso> HedgeMage: What's going on, eh?
[01:21] <docta_v> mwe: well i'm asking...what's your thoughts on the matter? i'm not really digging Konsole
[01:21] <IdleOne> !tell Steveire about repos
[01:21] <Steveire> a bot?
[01:21] <sonic> phlosten , i was to enter " sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/aliases " in the terminal
[01:21] <IdleOne> tonyyarusso, he's an OPER
[01:21] <Phlosten> umm, complete +v for channel
[01:22] <Phlosten> broken script?
[01:22] <tonyyarusso> IdleOne: Yeah, but what's he doing?
[01:22] <tristanmike> !ops
[01:22] <ubotu> Help! lilo, fabbione, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee
[01:22] <mwe> docta_v: I like rxvt-unicode. it needs some configuring to look good though. but then it's superfast and you can make it transparant as well if you like that kind of thing
[01:22] <IdleOne> tristanmike, ops cant do anything he is a irc OP he can do what he likes
[01:22] <docta_v> mwe: is it real transparency like iterm
[01:23] <docta_v> mwe: or does it just grab the desktop image
[01:23] <mwe> docta_v: pseudo
[01:23] <swalchy> lmao!
[01:23] <tristanmike> oh, I didn't know
[01:23] <swalchy> Why is it installing something witht he name GIMP?
[01:23] <tristanmike> what's going on?
[01:23] <docta_v> mwe: dang i guess OSX is still the best out there for eye candy
[01:23] <apokryphos> ?
[01:23] <mwe> docta_v: osx is great overall imo
[01:23] <sonic> sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/aliases
[01:23] <swalchy> what IM program is availiable for Ubuntu?
[01:23] <sonic> that was the full command
[01:23] <swalchy> Something like MSN messenger?
[01:23] <sonic> that returned the error
[01:24] <tspier2> swalchy, aMsn
[01:24] <bur[n] er> swalchy: amsn, gaim, kopete
[01:24] <mwe> swalchy: plenty
[01:24] <NickGarvey> ...?
[01:24] <mwe> swalchy: gaim
[01:24] <swalchy> which is best?
[01:24] <bur[n] er> swalchy: you trying to start a war? ;)
[01:24] <mwe> swalchy: best is subjective
[01:24] <tspier2> swalchy, aMsn is best for MSN.
[01:24] <swalchy> what antivirus/firewalls are there for Ubuntu?
[01:24] <bur[n] er> swalchy: search synaptic, don't be lame ;)
[01:24] <apokryphos> no, I really think Kopete is :P
[01:24] <mwe> swalchy: virus is not really an issue in linux
[01:24] <swalchy> search where?
[01:24] <NickGarvey> swalchy: you run linux, whats antivirus?
[01:24] <sonic> i cant even google search the problem because it wont work :(
[01:24] <sonic> lol
[01:24] <swalchy> xD
[01:25] <bur[n] er> swalchy: synaptic
[01:25] <NickGarvey> swalchy: clamav is the only thing I have heard of
[01:25] <mwe> swalchy: firewall is one of the worlds safest, iptables
[01:25] <tonyyarusso> swalchy: Also aegis.
[01:25] <Varth> AVG has a Linux version too.
[01:25] <swalchy> really?
[01:25] <void^> antivir as well
[01:25] <swalchy> Good old AVG
[01:25] <bur[n] er> wtf is going on in this channel
[01:25] <mwe> what the heck is going on with all the +vvvv modes?
[01:25] <Varth> What is this guy cluttering up the channel with?
[01:25] <swalchy> he's voicing us all
[01:25] <Varth> Whoever's the op needs to boot him.
[01:26] <apokryphos> Varth: you can't kick freenode staffers
[01:26] <IdleOne> everybody calm down nothing bad is happening
[01:26] <_harm> Anyone know how i can play a certain video file as an alarm?
[01:26] <swalchy> seeing as though he's voicing us all, I think he's a staff member
[01:26] <mwe> swalchy: yeah but I wonder what's the point
[01:26] <jmp_me> Oi
[01:26] <IdleOne> HedgeMage, is a freenode staffer and is just giving everybody +v mode
[01:26] <Phlosten> IdleOne, yes, its not bad...it annoying!
[01:26] <Varth> Oh. I didn't know he was a staffer. Still kind of an IRC noob. -_-;
[01:26] <swalchy> I take it Ubuntu can easily play Wmv and AVI files?
[01:26] <ldan> This place is quite active.  Is there a less frantic place to get some good ubuntu installation help?  Thanks.
[01:26] <mlowe> voice check
[01:26] <Phlosten> swalchy, avi definately
[01:27] <_harm> swalchy once u have the codecs yes
[01:27] <tonyyarusso> swalchy: With the right codecs.  See the RestrictedFormats wiki page.
[01:27] <swalchy> where the codecs from?
[01:27] <HedgeMage> ack! oops!!!
[01:27] <swalchy> kk
[01:27] <swalchy> thanks
[01:27] <HedgeMage> SORRY!
[01:27] <void^> i think someone will stand in a corner and feel ashashamed soon.
[01:27] <lilo> wOH 8)
[01:27] <Phlosten> !mp3
[01:27] <ubotu> rumour has it, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[01:27] <HedgeMage> I screwed up
[01:27] <apokryphos> HedgeMage: what the heck? :)
[01:27] <swalchy> lol
[01:27] <HedgeMage> Meant to voice #freenode-social and my client switched windows :(
[01:27] <tristanmike> thank crap
[01:27] <swalchy> that was an ACCIDENT
[01:27] <HedgeMage> tonyyarusso: I screwed up, I'll fix it.
[01:27] <mwe> HedgeMage: well its only been going on for 10 minutes :)
[01:27] <tonyyarusso> HedgeMage: What happened?
[01:27] <liable> heh
[01:27] <lilo> hi all.... Susan is one of our newest staffers
[01:27] <lilo> she's intelligent and conscientious
[01:27] <swalchy> can you de-voice us all? :P
[01:27] <HedgeMage> apokryphos: I am SO SO SORRY
[01:27] <Gau> Synaptic doesn't have snes9x?
[01:27] <lilo> and she just goofed bigtime ;)
[01:27] <apokryphos> =)
[01:27] <liable> :)
[01:27] <HedgeMage> I goofed... meant to voice everyone in #freenode-social and my client switched windows at a bad moment :(
[01:28] <swalchy> can I make a sexists joke? please?
[01:28] <_harm> Anyone know how i can play a certain video file as an alarm?
[01:28] <sonic> can anyone help at all?
[01:28] <lilo> I just want to point out that my big goof early on was to remove every single user from the network 8)
[01:28] <apokryphos> swalchy: shush
[01:28] <IdleOne> swalchy, no!
[01:28] <lilo> global kill
[01:28] <swalchy> awww
[01:28] <tonyyarusso> HedgeMage: All right, I guess we can get a good laugh and forgive you :)  Was crazy confusing for a while there though!
[01:28] <IdleOne> lol lilo
[01:28] <lilo> so this one at least seems a lot less painful 8)
[01:28] <apokryphos> lilo: nice ;-)
[01:28] <tonyyarusso> lilo: Nice.
[01:28] <mwe> HedgeMage: heh
[01:28] <lilo> apokryphos: I think at the time there were like 500 users on the network, total :)
[01:28] <swalchy> ..foomatic-filters?
[01:28] <HedgeMage> swalchy: yes, I deserve a few freebies ;)
[01:28] <mlowe> i onece deleted the entire internet
[01:28] <cva> no worries HedgeMage
[01:28] <liable> HedgeMage: no harm done.
[01:28] <gnomefreak> ah ty was wondering what happened
[01:28] <lilo> apokryphos: so it was even comparable 8)
[01:28] <lilo> I wasn't even a newbie, actually
[01:29] <lilo> but it was one of my best early mistakes 8)
[01:29] <TruckerMan> swalchy, ok, i looked at the back of the card and i think i got it narrowed down on the list, now what? err what are YOU gonna do at least?  just download and unzip that driver file?
[01:29] <jmp_me> this moment is very 1990 IRC
[01:29] <Seveas> woah, hedgemage gone crazy? 
[01:29] <Cooner750> I cant seem to get ASLA working... Is there a way to start it?
[01:29] <jmp_me> IRC!
[01:29] <apokryphos> mass-options are nice, but of course have to come with these inevitabilities at some time or other ;-)
[01:29] <lilo> so again, on behalf of Peer-Directed Projects Center and freenode, I'd like to thank everyone for using the network, and apologize most sincerely on behalf of one of our newest staffers :)
[01:29] <Cooner750> i'm using ESD but I prefer ALSA
[01:29] <Seveas> !lart HedgeMage
[01:29] <mlowe> Cooner750,  alsaconf
[01:30] <gnomefreak> lilo: its all good no harm done ;)
[01:30] <sonic> argh, i'm doomed
[01:30] <sonic> i've managed to solve the problem a little bit
[01:30] <spazzz> YAY!!! I FIXED IT!!! I RULE!!! YEA *Dances*
[01:30] <tonyyarusso> !+test
[01:30] <ubotu> Passed.
[01:30] <sonic> by disabling it in firefox
[01:30] <gnomefreak> ok back to reading
[01:30] <tonyyarusso> The bot's back!  Yay!!!
[01:30] <sonic> but i still cant connect to messenger etc
[01:30] <hyphenated> HedgeMage: which client are you using? I'll try to avoid it ;-)
[01:30] <tristanmike> !lart tonyyarusso
[01:30] <sonic> and it took me 10 attempts to connect to here
[01:30] <ChrisKnight> hey baby, what's your size?
[01:31] <ChrisKnight> how big are you penis wise?
[01:31] <mwe> how can you get the numeric char code for a character?
[01:31] <tonyyarusso> tristanmike: I think it only allows lart in offtopic.
[01:31] <IdleOne> !ops
[01:31] <ubotu> Help! lilo, fabbione, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee
[01:31] <hyphenated> mwe: man ascii, and look it up?
[01:31] <mwe> hyphenated: it utf-8
[01:31] <Seveas> apokryphos, if your penis size is as good as your irc speed ... ;)
[01:31] <gnomefreak> ok thats it no more reading i miss all the strange stuff
[01:32] <matsur> LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library /opt/local/firefox/plugins/mplayerplug-in.so [/opt/local/firefox/plugins/mplayerplug-in.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory]  How do I solve firefox crapping out like that?
[01:32] <IdleOne> gnomefreak, check out the log that will be posted lol
[01:32] <ldan> During the beginning of an installation what is the meaning of: [  88.318240]  kernel panic - not syncing -- Aieeelling interrupt handler   (things just freeze up at that point)
[01:32] <TruckerMan> does breezy ubuntu come with ndiswrapper prepackaged?
[01:33] <swalchy> quick Q
[01:33] <swalchy> how does one uupdate drivers in Ubuntu?
[01:33] <Cooner750> I installed the w32codecs and mplayer plugin still wont play embedded windows media files. I can hear the sound fine but it just says "playing" but there is no video
[01:33] <mwe> ldan: it means there is a serious bug
[01:33] <Seveas> ldan, that you have a problem 
[01:33] <NsOmNiAc> TruckerMan no but you can install it through synaptic
[01:33] <Seveas> ldan, make a picture of it and post it on http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+filebug
[01:33] <swalchy> what's synaptic?
[01:33] <tristanmike> Cooner750: you installed "mozilla-mplayer" ?
[01:33] <scorchsaber> swalchy: It's a package manager
[01:33] <hyphenated> mwe: echo thatchar | od
[01:33] <kaliumfredrik> swalchy: a tool that helps you install new packages
[01:33] <TruckerMan> NsOmNiAc ok, with synaptic off the install disk?  i cant get online with ubuntu yet
[01:34] <apokryphos> swalchy: /msg ubotu synaptic for more information
[01:34] <scorchsaber> swalchy: It let's you download a bunch of programs and libraries
[01:34] <NsOmNiAc> yeahh it's on there Trucker
[01:34] <swalchy> does that come auto with ubuntu or hav eto be installed manually?
[01:34] <TruckerMan> sweet
[01:34] <scorchsaber> swalchy: It's there already
[01:34] <swalchy> excellent
[01:34] <kaliumfredrik> swalchy: (a package is a program)
[01:34] <TruckerMan> yeah, its there
[01:34] <mwe> hyphenated: great. od. didn't know that one
[01:34] <swalchy> thats great
[01:34] <swalchy> excuse my noobish questions... I'm a noob :P
[01:34] <Cooner750> Yes. It loads the same in Firefox 1.5. When I try to open a WMV file in Mplayer itself it says "Cannot find codec matching selected -vo and video format (and then a ## here)"
[01:35] <hyphenated> mwe: you might want to change the default output format to hex or whatever
[01:35] <tonyyarusso> swalchy: No problem, we all were once too!
[01:35] <scorchsaber> swalchy: Don't worry. Don't get addicted to downloads, like me :)
[01:35] <mwe> yeah
[01:35] <TruckerMan> ubuntu is phat so far, just no wireless card prob for this laptop...almost like redhat and winmodems back in the day
[01:35] <swalchy> :)
[01:35] <kaliumfredrik> swalchy: It will also help you upgrade your software as newer versions become available and help you to neatly remove software you nolonger want
[01:35] <NickGarvey> my computer will randomly put my /home filesystem into read only, altohugh mount says differently, why is this?
[01:35] <scorchsaber> I wan't ever a noob
[01:35] <scorchsaber> I was born this way
[01:35] <NsOmNiAc> TruckerMan check it
[01:35] <NsOmNiAc> !wireless
[01:35] <ubotu> wireless is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers
[01:36] <NickGarvey> touch: cannot touch `test': Read-only file system
[01:36] <scorchsaber> swalchy: You'll get an update notification in the form of a red dot at the top-right
[01:36] <swalchy> will ubuntu automatically detec my pico disk?
[01:36] <tonyyarusso> swalchy: Edit: Everyone but scorchsaber was new once.  scorchsaber on the other hand is from another planet, where they play Linux podcasts to their unborn children.
[01:36] <NickGarvey> I am in my home directory..
[01:36] <scorchsaber> yes
[01:36] <Seveas> NickGarvey, check your syslog, probable errors are occuring
[01:36] <hyphenated> NickGarvey: because it had errors and your fstab says "errors=remount-ro"
[01:36] <gnomefreak> lol
[01:36] <sonic> ok
[01:36] <sonic> i have found a solution
[01:36] <scorchsaber> Not only that, but they give you ultra-real violent shooters involving Bill Gates
[01:36] <sonic> if anyone can help
[01:37] <sonic> how can I edit a file
[01:37] <sonic> in a text editor
[01:37] <sonic> that has root permisions?
[01:37] <gnomefreak> sonic: sudo gedit /path/to/file
[01:37] <tonyyarusso> sonic: Open it with sudo / gksudo.
[01:37] <kaliumfredrik> sudo emacs <thefile>
[01:37] <swalchy> whats this "sudo" thing I keep seeing people post?
[01:37] <scorchsaber> sonic: Open up a terminal and go to the folder, than type sudo gedit (Filename)
[01:37] <tonyyarusso> !sudo
[01:37] <ubotu> well, sudo is a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[01:37] <gnomefreak> sudo <editor of choice
[01:37] <kaliumfredrik> makes you run stuff as root
[01:37] <TruckerMan> ok, cewl, i think i got enough info to reboot into ubu, appreciate your helps...i'll be sure to let yall stay outta the ditch next time i see ya on the highway
[01:37] <swalchy> righty
[01:37] <sonic> thanks guys
[01:37] <sonic> but it wont work for me
[01:37] <mcphail> Sorry to sound stupid: why are there "+" signs in front of the names on irssi?
[01:37] <scorchsaber> np sonic
[01:38] <sonic> in the terminal
[01:38] <sonic> it gives me this error
[01:38] <gnomefreak> mcphail: someone gave us vioce
[01:38] <tonyyarusso> mcphail: Massive voicing thing earlier.  You can just ignore them.
[01:38] <sonic> (gedit:6766): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_display_pointer_ungrab: assertion `GDK_IS_DISPLAY (display)' failed
[01:38] <sonic> (gedit:6766): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_display_keyboard_ungrab: assertion `GDK_IS_DISPLAY (display)' failed
[01:38] <jmp_me> mcphail: chanmodes. google for "irc rfc"
[01:38] <sonic> thats why i can only browse to the location
[01:38] <Stealth_> hey, quik question, can i install brezy and dapper together, in different partitions but using the same HOME partition?
[01:38] <gnomefreak> sonic: it still opened?
[01:38] <sonic> i can only open it by browsing to it
[01:39] <sonic> if i try with the terminal, i just get that error
[01:39] <gnomefreak> sonic: in terminal type sudo gedit /path/to/file
[01:39] <gnomefreak> sonic: that should open it without errors
[01:39] <tspier2> What codec do I need to play mpg's in Totem?
[01:39] <sonic> thats what i'm trying :(
[01:39] <sonic> sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/aliases
[01:39] <scorchsaber> you need ffmpeg, I think, tspier
[01:39] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell tspier2 about restricted
[01:39] <sonic> it just gives me that error
[01:39] <tonyyarusso> Stealth_: You can.
[01:40] <scorchsaber> but ffmpeg doesn't work for me. You can get gxine, which uses the xine library
[01:40] <kaliumfredrik> tspier2: I think totem-exine play them by default... However, check the ubutnu wiki for info on codecs.
[01:40] <gnomefreak> sonic: try gksudo gedit than
[01:40] <scorchsaber> sonic: Can you open other files with Gedit?
[01:41] <kaliumfredrik> yes
[01:41] <Stealth_> alright tony, turns out dapper broke the printer here, so id like to reinstall breezy alongside it
[01:41] <sonic> i've never tried
[01:41] <sonic> i will try just now
[01:41] <gabbah_> i'm on dapper.. i have ticked all the boxes in repositories list in synaptic. That should gimme access to everything, but it still doesn't find "flashplayer-mozilla" or "java-package"..?
[01:41] <tonyyarusso> Stealth_: Ah.  Yeah, should be good, just don't share the actual installation partition of course and you'll be fine.
[01:41] <gnomefreak> gabbah_: for dapper support please join #ubuntu+!
[01:41] <kaliumfredrik> sonic: since you are a bit of a newbie you should probably use gedit rather than emacs.
[01:41] <Stealth_> tony: ok thx
[01:41] <sonic> the only reason why i'm doing it though, is to disable ipv6
[01:42] <gnomefreak> gabbah_: you need universe and multiverse enabled
[01:42] <sonic> because i cant really connect to any web pages
[01:42] <mwe> gabbah_: I think it's flashplugin-nonfree
[01:42] <gnomefreak> !ipv6
[01:42] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[01:42] <gabbah_> gnomefreak, well i think they are.. since all the boxes are ticked?
[01:43] <gnomefreak> gabbah_: sudo apt-get install mplayer-arch    arch being whatever your on i386 i586 so on and so forth
[01:43] <gabbah_> gnomefreak, no hit on flashplugin either..
[01:43] <gnomefreak> !mplayer
[01:43] <ubotu> somebody said mplayer was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[01:43] <mwe> gabbah_: java-package shows up here. did you update afterwards?
[01:43] <sonic> i tried it with sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/aliases
[01:43] <sonic> it just says
[01:43] <sonic> Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[01:43] <sonic> is there a way of opening it with root permissions in the gui?
[01:43] <mwe> sonic: don't use sudo with gui apps
[01:44] <gabbah_> mwe, i used synaptic.. and pressed reload yes
[01:44] <mwe> !gksudo
[01:44] <ubotu> Use gksudo to run gtk applications with root privileges. Using sudo to start gtk apps can scramble your user account permissions.
[01:44] <gnomefreak> sonic: try it with gksudo instead of sudo
[01:44] <gabbah_> gnomefreak, i already have mplayer?
[01:44] <Seveas> sonic, do it as normal user, not as root
[01:44] <gnomefreak> gabbah_: what does uname -r say when you type int in terminal
[01:45] <gabbah_> gnomefreak, 2.6.15-19-386
[01:45] <sonic> wow
[01:45] <sonic> both your advice worked
[01:45] <sonic> !
[01:45] <ubotu> sonic: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:45] <gnomefreak> gabbah_: in terminal type sudo apt-get install mplayer-386
[01:45] <Cooner750> I once read somewhere about how to change the ugly windows-like buttons in firefox to ones that look like Gnome.
[01:45] <Cooner750> but I forget where I read about it at
[01:45] <sonic> i logged back into the terminal as normal user
[01:45] <sonic> and used gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/aliases
[01:45] <sonic> so it both worked
[01:45] <gabbah_> gnomefreak, will that install flash for me??
[01:45] <sonic> thanks alot guys!
[01:45] <gnomefreak> gabbah_: also dapper is in #ubuntu+1
[01:46] <gnomefreak> gabbah_: no that will install mplayer for you
[01:46] <gabbah_> gnomefreak, yes i know.. but you usually get more answers here :P
[01:46] <gnomefreak> gabbah_: please join there ill help you there
[01:46] <gabbah_> gnomefreak, well i asked for flash and java, not mplayer. i already have mplayer...
[01:46] <gabbah_> gnomefreak, ok
[01:46] <sonic> wow
[01:47] <sonic> messenger even connects now
[01:47] <jbroome> wait, that's good?
[01:48] <sonic> can anyone recommend a decent client for msn messenger?
[01:48] <Seveas> sonic, gaim 2.0
[01:48] <Cooner750> I still can't get mplayer to work right
[01:48] <sonic> gaim doesnt seem to like my gmail account for some reason though
[01:48] <sonic> i use that as my .net passport
[01:49] <tonyyarusso> sonic: What's it do?
[01:49] <sonic> handshakes, gets to "authentication" and then disconnects
[01:50] <tonyyarusso> sonic: How many times have you tried it?  Sometimes MSN is just dumb like that.
[01:50] <fiendskull9> hey
[01:50] <fiendskull9> if i pause a download in firefox, and shut down, and turn it on tommorow, will i be able to continue the download? or will it be deleted by shutdown
[01:50] <sonic> its constantly happening
[01:50] <tonyyarusso> sonic: And you're absolutely sure about the account and password?
[01:51] <jax> jax0m@mantis:~/Desktop$ sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 u-icea2.iso IceAge/
[01:51] <jax> Password:
[01:51] <jax> mount: Not a directory
[01:51] <jax> help?
[01:51] <sonic> yeah
[01:51] <sonic> double checked a good few times
[01:51] <Seveas> jax, does the IceAge dir exist on your desktop?
[01:51] <jax> it's impossible for me to mount an iso... even though i've done it before, with the same exact commands, and it worked.
[01:51] <tonyyarusso> sonic: Very curious.  Not sure what the issue is, but you might consider filing a bug.
[01:51] <jax> Seveas, of course.
[01:51] <jax> Ic[tab] 
[01:51] <sonic> yeah i think i will do
[01:52] <Seveas> jax, I've seen this stupid non-descriptive error once and it meant that the iso was busted
[01:52] <jax> ahhhhhhh
[01:52] <sonic> are there any other clients i can try at the moment just to be certain?
[01:52] <jax> Seveas, that would make a lot of sense.
[01:52] <jax> <3
[01:52] <Seveas> jax, it took me and 3 ubuntu developers about an hour to find out 
[01:52] <sonic> it could still be a problem with my connection i guess
[01:52] <jax> haha
[01:52] <tonyyarusso> sonic: Sure.  Just do an apt-cache search msn and there should be a number of them.
[01:52] <hyphenated> jax: you're not specifying a loop device..
[01:52] <jax> hyphenated, don't need to.
[01:52] <amphi> fiendskull9: dunno; IMHO wget is better for downloading stuff than a web browser
[01:53] <Seveas> hyphenated, no need to with -o loop
[01:53] <sonic> thanks tony =)
[01:53] <jax> and even if i do specify i get the same error.
[01:53] <jax> loop automatically goes to /dev/loop0
[01:53] <jax> jax0m@mantis:~/Desktop$ lsmod | grep loop
[01:53] <jax> loop                   15752  0
[01:53] <hyphenated> it'll go to the first one that isn't being used
[01:53] <jax> jax0m@mantis:~/Desktop$ ls /dev/lo
[01:53] <jax> log    loop/  loop0  loop1  loop2  loop3  loop4  loop5  loop6  loop7
[01:54] <jtrask> evening all -- quick question
[01:54] <swalchy> it's been installing packages for over 40 mins now
[01:54] <jito> good night
[01:54] <jtrask> my printer seems to have the wrong postscript setting... how would i change that?
[01:55] <swalchy> I hate the guy who said it only took 15 mins lol
[01:55] <fiendskull9> amphi, well its a large file, and i just realized i have to install slack tonight before 9:30 (by putting in a new harddrive, etc.) and i dont wanna end my 53% done dl of a 900mb file. and its got an hour left.
[01:55] <jito> i need a favor
[01:55] <hyphenated> jax: run it in verbose mode
[01:55] <jito> how install command MAKE in Ubuntu?
[01:55] <jax> i already deleted the iso.
[01:55] <bimberi> jito, install build-essential
[01:55] <amphi> fiendskull9: sorry, I've never used ff to d/l anything other than the odd extension
[01:55] <sonic> lol
[01:55] <tonyyarusso> jito: Install build-essential
[01:55] <jax> what else would use a loop device?
[01:55] <sonic> one more question guys if you dont mind
[01:56] <sonic> where would I do an apt-cache search?
[01:56] <jax> sonic, what do you mean? at the command line
[01:56] <bimberi> sonic: in a terminal
[01:56] <tonyyarusso> sonic: Applications > Accessories > Terminal
[01:56] <jax> apt-cache search wifi | grep radar
[01:56] <hyphenated> jax: not many things would.
[01:56] <amphi> jax: encrypted filesystem-in-a-file is one
[01:56] <sonic> ahhh
[01:56] <bimberi> sonic: the Synaptic search is good too
[01:56] <jax> amphi, ah
[01:57] <amphi> jax: handy for qemu disk image partitions too on occasion
[01:57] <jax> hmm
[01:57] <boman^> Hi, I have a problem... I'm using dapper drake and now after I've installed it I hear that my sata-disks are turning them self off after some time and then when I try to access them again I hear them spin up again, anyone know how to fix this?
[01:58] <_jason_> boman^: #ubuntu+1 for dapper
[01:58] <boman^> Aah, just read the topic... sru.
[01:58] <boman^> sry*
[01:59] <Noraa> Hi everyone, I have a question about installing ubuntu. I've got the 5.10 release. Do I just burn the rared file to a cd with nero (burn iso) and  then pop it in to install? Also, I'm only trying it for now so can I intall it on my second harddrive?
[01:59] <Stargazers> Hi. What might be problem with ATI 9600 & Xorg 6.8: It says "aticonfig: error while loading shared libraries: libfglrx_pp.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[01:59] <jito> bimberi, build-essential??? were? in cd?
[01:59] <tonyyarusso> jito: It is on the CD, yes.  Or online.
[01:59] <Supaplex> how can I run x86 and mac on the same root ext3fs?
[02:00] <enursha> Building from tar, could some ponit me in the direct of a guide, maybe expaining how to configre options aswell
[02:00] <bimberi> jito: 'sudo apititude install build-essential'  -  it's on the CD or from repos
[02:00] <_jason> ubotu: tell enursha about compile
[02:00] <_jason> enursha: ./configure --help and the README and INSTALL files will help you with configure options
[02:00] <sonic> i just downloaded a file with the extention "deb"
[02:00] <sonic> msn_0.95-3.ubuntu.deb
[02:00] <sonic> it says the archive is not supported
[02:00] <Seveas> !info amsn
[02:01] <ubotu> amsn: (An MSN messenger written in tcl), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.94-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1946 kB, Installed size: 6976 kB
[02:01] <enursha> _jason, cheers
[02:01] <kbrooks> Seveas: 0.95 > 0.94\
[02:01] <Seveas> sonic, do you have a specific reason to want that version?
[02:01] <sonic> i was just browsing for a messenger client
[02:01] <sonic> amsn was the first link
[02:01] <sonic> i chose the ubuntu package
[02:02] <Seveas> sonic, install it via apt-get or synaptic
[02:02] <enursha> _jason, you know where a could get a good package of sounds, new mail, message all that guff?
[02:02] <Seveas> you don't need to manually download things
[02:02] <jito> ok, i finded, but were install the file?
[02:02] <jax> sonic: apt-cache search msn | grep messenger
[02:02] <jax> sonic: apt-get install name-of-package
[02:02] <Stargazers> Anyone any ideas?
[02:02] <gnomefreak> sudo apt-get install amsn
[02:02] <Stargazers> What might be reason
[02:02] <sonic> lol
[02:02] <sonic> i'm confused
[02:02] <_jason> enursha: I don't about sounds.  What do you mean by ``new mail'' and ``message'' ?
[02:02] <sonic> do i type that into the terminal
[02:02] <sonic> ?
[02:03] <jax> sonic, yes.
[02:03] <mcquaid> i saw it in the forums before but can't find it now, anyone know where to find a svg of the ubuntu logo?
[02:03] <gnomefreak> sonic: sudo apt-get install amsn   for amsn
[02:03] <gnomefreak> sonic: yep
[02:03] <Seveas> mcquaid, UbuntuArtwork page on the wiki
[02:03] <kevin> Greetings, I am using breezy and can't do an apt-get update, it keeps giving 404 errors or "couldn't stat source package list", any ideas?
[02:03] <sonic> thank you! I will try it
[02:03] <mcquaid> Seveas, thx
[02:03] <_jason> enursha: oh did you mean sounds for new mail and messages?
[02:03] <enursha> _jason, yeah
[02:03] <Seveas> kevin, sources.list on the pastebin please
[02:03] <gnomefreak> kevin: can you paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to pastebin please
[02:03] <_jason> enursha: heh, no I don't, sorry :)
[02:03] <sonic> couldnt find package =<
[02:04] <gnomefreak> !info amsn
[02:04] <ubotu> amsn: (An MSN messenger written in tcl), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.94-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1946 kB, Installed size: 6976 kB
[02:04] <gnomefreak> sonic:  you need to enable universe
[02:04] <gnomefreak> repo*
[02:04] <sonic> how do I go about that mate/
[02:04] <kbrooks> erm
[02:04] <Seveas> !tell sonic about universe
[02:04] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell sonic about universe
[02:04] <_jason> enursha: gnome-look.org has some system sound stuff, but I've never used them
[02:04] <kbrooks> nalioth & Seveas:
[02:04] <kbrooks> what are you doing?
[02:04] <kevin> um dumb question, can you tell me where pastebin is?
[02:04] <Seveas> !tell kevin about pastebin
[02:04] <nalioth> !paste
[02:04] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[02:04] <_jason> kevin: /topic
[02:05] <kbrooks> nalioth & Seveas: what are you doing?
[02:05] <enursha> _jason, cheers, ill have a look
[02:05] <Seveas> kbrooks, undoing HedgeMage's mistake 
[02:05] <kevin> ok, thanks, very dumb question ;)
[02:05] <kbrooks> Seveas: What mistake?
[02:05] <gnomefreak> kevin: only dumb questions is one not asked
[02:05] <Seveas> kbrooks, please come to #ubuntu-offtopic for offtopic things
[02:05] <nalioth> kbrooks: you are offtopic, sir.
[02:06] <Supaplex> why is setserial not on the breezy(5.1) live cd? it makes pppconfig and a handfull of others quite useless.
[02:07] <tspier2> Why so much devoiceage?
[02:07] <Seveas> tspier2, all the voiceage was an accident
[02:08] <Supaplex> because it's undernet in here!
[02:08] <jax> bbl
[02:08] <jito> tanks bimberi and tonyyarusso....
[02:08] <kbrooks> tspier2: someone made a mistake
[02:08] <jax> thanks again for the help Seveas.
[02:08] <alex_> Hi, I dont seem to be able to get 32bit colour using i830 xorg driver..
[02:08] <kevin> Ok, posted my problem to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11488
[02:10] <IdleOne> nalioth, may I msg you a minute?
[02:10] <Xenguy> test
[02:10] <nalioth> IdleOne: sure go ahead
[02:10] <Seveas> Xenguy, failed ;)
[02:10] <Xenguy> mwaha
[02:12] <cnkrtdsko> hey everyone. im having problems with ubuntu. i cant get my wireless working. anyone have any ideas? its a D-Link
[02:12] <IdleOne> !wifi
[02:12] <ubotu> wifi is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[02:12] <tristanmike> kevin: get out of root and run again...
[02:13] <tristanmike> kevin: you can't use "sudo" while your in a "root" account
[02:13] <Seveas> "get out of root" sounds like someone is sucking up to the admin ;)
[02:13] <tristanmike> Seveas: .....who me....? :p
[02:14] <kevin> when I run it out of root (with sudo) I get the exact same message. The reason I tried under root in the first place was because it wasn't working
[02:14] <gnomefreak> kevin: define root please
[02:15] <gnomefreak> kevin: you using su or sudo -i?
[02:15] <kevin> i.e. I did sudo /bin/bash to get into root
[02:15] <Seveas> kevin, urgh bad!
[02:15] <gnomefreak> or that way (the hard way)
[02:15] <Seveas> kevin, if you want a root shell: use sudo -i
[02:15] <Supaplex> sudo su -
[02:16] <kevin> ok thanks, don't really need root though, was just trying to see if it would solve my prob, and it didn't
[02:16] <_jason> kevin: can you ping archive.ubuntu.com on the box?
[02:16] <tristanmike> !tell kevin about root
[02:16] <kevin> ping is not working
[02:17] <Jiv001> hi
[02:17] <kevin> 100% packet loss
[02:17] <gnomefreak> kevin: are you using that pc atm
[02:17] <kevin> yes
[02:17] <Jiv001> how ubuntu differ fom debian
[02:17] <gnomefreak> kevin: in here chatting with us on that pc?
[02:17] <Seveas> !tell Jiv001 about debian
[02:17] <kevin> gnomefreak, that is correct
[02:17] <gnomefreak> yuck
[02:17] <gnomefreak> kevin: can you ping www.google.com?
[02:18] <bockman> could someone help me remove xchat 2.6? i installed it from backports, and when i 'apt-get remove xchat' it wants to remove ubuntu-desktop. how do i fix this?
[02:18] <tristanmike> gnomefreak: some ISP's block pings out completely, such as mine, i get 100% packet loss too, unless I ping *their* server
[02:18] <gnomefreak> bockman: thats fine
[02:18] <kevin> gnomefreak, still 100% packet loss
[02:18] <jvai> kevin.. check your network icon, some tymes u have 2 toggle btween "eth0" & "eth1".. & if u have firestarter check that
[02:18] <bockman> gnomefreak, that's fine?! isn't ubuntu-desktop important
[02:18] <gnomefreak> bockman: if you no
[02:18] <gnomefreak> !ubuntu-desktop
[02:18] <ubotu> somebody said ubuntu-desktop was a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when ugprading.
[02:19] <tristanmike> bockman: that is a metapackage
[02:19] <bockman> oh alright
[02:19] <bimberi> bockman: remove xchat and ubuntu-desktop, change repos to disable backports, aptitude update, aptitude install ubuntu-desktop
[02:19] <kevin> I am setting this up in a lab, and go through a firewall
[02:19] <bockman> ok
[02:19] <bockman> thanks
[02:19] <cacahueta> apt-get install
[02:19] <jvai> kevin.. no firestartr firewall on the box?
[02:19] <gnomefreak> kevin: i would say check your firewall settings
[02:20] <cacahueta> apt-cache search paquete
[02:20] <tristanmike> kevin: are you sure your ISP allows pings..? mine does not, it took me 2 months of troublshooting when I got fed up and called them, they informed me of this unfortunate fact
[02:21] <jvai> i know my box couldnt go out thru the coporate firewall, till i install'd squidfir
[02:22] <jvai> I had to configure firestarter also
[02:22] <rofl-waffle> Anybody got any suggestions on a good floppy based distro for an ancient laptop?
[02:22] <nalioth> rofl-waffle: peanut linux?
[02:22] <kevin> it looks like ping is disabled
[02:22] <kevin> tried on a windows box too
[02:22] <jvai> ??
[02:23] <jvai> the firewall is dropping the packets... try *sudo tcpdump* so u can @least see what's goin on
[02:23] <jvai> tcpdump on the ubuntu box
[02:24] <joelbryan> hi, how do I change the default applications that handle protocol in firefox, like, irc://
[02:25] <kevin> Also, to use firefox, I have to put put the proxy and port for the firewall
[02:25] <jvai> kevin - sudo tcpdump -vv
[02:25] <_jason> joelbryan: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Register_protocol
[02:25] <Centaur5> How do I find out if my installed kernel has SMP mode compiled for the core duo cpu?
[02:25] <kevin> jvai I'm getting a bunch of stuff on my screen, but don't know what it means
[02:26] <hanasaki> hi aLL  what is a good pci   card that does raid 5 with SATA 300... and cheap!
[02:26] <jvai> lol.. kevin clik on the right clik the network monitor, to see your ip addy, then follow what it does
[02:27] <Syco54645> can anyone help me with my palm
[02:27] <polpak> !anyone
[02:27] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[02:27] <jvai> kevin, r u in here thru ubuntu? it should b pickin this traffic up
[02:28] <abuchbinder> If I have a modified version of xpad.c, is there a tool to compile it into a kernel module?
[02:28] <Syco54645> how much more specific would you like my question to be
[02:28] <kevin> jvai, yes I am, it is picking up lots of traffic
[02:28] <Syco54645> i need help with my palm pilot in linux
[02:28] <hanasaki> ubotu: mine didnt :)
[02:28] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, hanasaki
[02:28] <jvai> if so, then the issue id firefox
[02:28] <polpak> Syco54645, define "help with my palm pilot"
[02:28] <kevin> jvai, looks like my printer and other clients too
[02:28] <jvai> snap
[02:29] <hanasaki> what does ubuntu have for java packages? they sun or backdown?
[02:29] <polpak> !java
[02:29] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[02:29] <Syco54645> polpak: it is recognized by kpilot, but i cannot transfer anything to or from it (applications or settings)
[02:29] <_jason> ubotu: tell hanasaki about java
[02:29] <kevin> jvai, it keeps saying "try increasing snap length"
[02:29] <hanasaki> thanks
[02:29] <abuchbinder> I grabbed the kernel sources, but all I can find are tutorials about building an entire kernel. I just want to patch one module.
[02:30] <jvai> yea, that's sounds like the firewall, i see that @ work
[02:30] <polpak> Syco54645, I don't have any experience with kpilot, sorry
[02:30] <hanasaki> oh nice.. 1.5 is there
[02:30] <polpak> Syco54645, perhaps someone else will
[02:30] <Cooner750> What to do? I have Mozilla Mplayer working in Firefox 1.5 and the w32 codecs installed but when it loads and plays a embedded WMV file I can hear the audio but it stays at the screen saying "Playing..."
[02:30] <Syco54645> polpak: well i could care less which software i use, i just want to get it working
[02:31] <_jason> Cooner750: link to the file?
[02:31] <kevin> I will close this and try apt-get again and see what happens with tcpdump
[02:31] <nalioth> Cooner750: it's best to d/l the wmv and play it locally (with a dedicated media player)
[02:31] <Cooner750> The file is the van prank video on ebaumsworld, URL http://media.ebaumsworld.com/wmv/vanprank.wmv
[02:31] <jvai> kevin on firefox - clik *edit -preferences- when the box pops up clik general
[02:31] <Cooner750> When I try to play it in MPlayer itself I get a codec error
[02:31] <jvai> ok
[02:31] <hanasaki> hmm debian make-jpkg doenst support 1.5 jdk yet
[02:31] <polpak> Syco54645, have you read the Palm Howto?
[02:31] <tritium> hanasaki: yes it does
[02:31] <Eleaf> hmm
[02:32] <orbin> nalioth: OOC, what's w/ muting all these d people?
[02:32] <kevin> jvai, ok, I already have my proxy and port set properly if that is what you mean
[02:32] <hanasaki> tritium: in etch? or sid? or sarge?
[02:32] <nalioth> orbin: nobody is being muted
[02:32] <jvai> ok
[02:32] <Syco54645> polpak: from ubuntu?  no i have not
[02:32] <hanasaki> tritium: i treid and it said not supported
[02:32] <jvai> what happened w/ apt get?
[02:32] <tritium> hanasaki: oh, sorry.  my bad.  I thought you meant ubuntu
[02:32] <polpak> Syco54645, it's the general linux one.. but
[02:32] <amphi> kevin: where?
[02:32] <hanasaki> hehe
[02:32] <polpak> !tell Syco54645 about palm
[02:32] <kevin> amphi, in firefox
[02:32] <hanasaki> sometimes i wish i could aptget from etch to ubuntu
[02:33] <amphi> kevin: apt should obey the HTTP_PROXY env var
[02:33] <kevin> jvai, apt-get does: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11488
[02:33] <_jason> Cooner750: haha that is funny, it doesn't play for you here http://www.ebaumsworld.com/videos/vanprank.html  ?
[02:33] <orbin> nalioth: may i ask what "removes voice from" means then?
[02:33] <kevin> amphi, how do I check/set that?
[02:33] <tritium> kevin: it does.
[02:33] <jvai> hmm, for the browser??
[02:33] <jvai> why?
[02:33] <Cooner750> no.
[02:33] <nalioth> orbin: if the channel is set +m (moderated) then a user needs +v to be able to speak
[02:33] <jvai> <-- stumpt
[02:33] <adventchild> !chroot
[02:33] <ubotu> somebody said chroot was at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575
[02:33] <Syco54645> polpak: yes i have read that.  the palm beeps when i sync it up even, just nothing is transferred
[02:33] <amphi> kevin: export HTTP_PROXY=12.34.56.78
[02:33] <hanasaki> not trying to starta  war.. just looking for facts... someone told me that ubuntu has far less packages than debian and debian is far more stable... waht are the facts? where can i read/research?
[02:33] <kevin> jvai, can't connect to web without it in browser
[02:33] <tritium> kevin: in fact, if you setup gnome's http proxy, sudo apt-get update will automatically know the http_proxy env var
[02:33] <Cooner750> I dont know what the deal is. It works on my other Ubuntu ox
[02:33] <Cooner750> box
[02:34] <polpak> hanasaki, neither is really true...
[02:34] <polpak> hanasaki, most people aren't even using debian "stable" cause it's very out of date
[02:34] <kevin> amphi, I need a proxy and port, do I just add :port after the proxy
[02:35] <Seveas> hanasaki, ubuntu has all packages from debian plus several other sources
[02:35] <_jason> Cooner750: does 'mplayer http://media.ebaumsworld.com/wmv/vanprank.wmv' work?
[02:35] <amphi> kevin: sounds reasonable
[02:35] <_jason> Cooner750: (in a terminal)
[02:36] <hanasaki> thanks guys
[02:36] <polpak> you guys planning to go +m or something?
[02:36] <Seveas> polpak, no
[02:36] <jvai> oooo kevin, then.. clik *system-preferences- proxy settings* set it to *automatically find proxy settings*
[02:36] <jvai> network proxy
[02:37] <adventchild> would getting the decoder for Totem be the same as playing streaming video from internet?
[02:37] <abuchbinder> I replaced the xpad.c in an Ubuntu kernel source, but I'm not sure how to compile it. 'make xpad' gives an error.
[02:37] <adventchild> at the restricted formats page?
[02:37] <Cooner750> I did sudo apt-get install mplayer-386 and it updated. Now it dosent show a codec error but causes MPlayer to fatally crash
[02:37] <hanasaki> polpak:  Seveas so what are the good reasons to use ubun over deb and visa versa?
[02:37] <abuchbinder> Does anyone here have familiarity with compiling individual kernel modules?
[02:37] <Seveas> hanasaki, ubuntu has way more recent packages
[02:37] <_jason> Cooner750: with that video or with any video?
[02:38] <Seveas> hanasaki, which is a good thing for hardware support
[02:38] <_Marek_> hi all
[02:38] <hanasaki> Seveas: ya
[02:38] <_Marek_> anyone knows the default password for root in dapper drake?
[02:38] <polpak> hanasaki, I prefer ubuntu because it's designed specifically for desktop use, meaning most things I want to have work out of the box, and it's got very up to date packages which allow me all the features I need
[02:38] <Seveas> hanasaki, and a fixed release schedule (although for dapper it slipped) is a major advantage
[02:38] <bimberi> _Marek_: there isn't one
[02:38] <_Marek_> i just installed it, and it didn't ask me during install
[02:38] <Cooner750> None. Just a grey box. Now in the web browser it plays audio for about a second with a grey screen as video and then says "Stopped."
[02:38] <bimberi> !tell _Marek_ about root
[02:38] <Seveas> hanasaki, plus real security support
[02:38] <hanasaki> how bad a slip? why
[02:38] <Seveas> hanasaki, 6 weeks for extra polish
[02:38] <_jason> Cooner750: did you try from the terminal?
[02:38] <hanasaki> hmm thought deb had a rep for being great on security
[02:38] <_Marek_> bimberi, ah, so just hitting enter will do?
[02:39] <Seveas> hanasaki, well...
[02:39] <VR_> hey all, can i install xgl/compiz even if i only have on-board video?
[02:39] <orbin> adventchild: the streaming instructions tell you how to install a browser plugin for video
[02:39] <VR_> and how come i'm voiced?
[02:39] <VR_> bahah
[02:39] <bimberi> _Marek_: no, root has no p/w so you can't log into it, you use sudo - check that wikipage
[02:39] <polpak> hanasaki, the next version of ubuntu was delayed because they're planning to provide commercial support for 3 years and want to give it all the finishing touches they can
[02:39] <Seveas> hanasaki, debian-security is not the fastest to put it mildly
[02:39] <hanasaki> funny.. apt-cache search ubuntu on debian shows some ported stuff hehe
[02:39] <orbin> adventchild: you can open streamed media directly via totem (or any other player) if you wish
[02:39] <Cooner750> it just sits there with a > and a flashing text cursor..
[02:39] <hanasaki> ah.. dam.. is ubuntu oging the way of rh/
[02:39] <Euler> Hello all.   Any idea why I don't have "/usr/include/GL/gl.h"?
[02:39] <_jason> Cooner750: don't put the quotes
[02:39] <orbin> adventchild: it's just sometimes easier to click on a link and have it open in the browser
[02:39] <Seveas> hanasaki, no - never 
[02:39] <_Marek_> bimberi, ah, weird, but nice :)
[02:39] <adventchild> orbin: how would i get the decoders for playing downloaded .mov files in Totem?
[02:40] <hanasaki> Seveas: ! coiol
[02:40] <hanasaki> cool
[02:40] <polpak> hanasaki, I'm not even sure what that means...
[02:40] <hanasaki> hmm so then.. i run some servers.. i should stick w/ deb?
[02:40] <adventchild> orbin: i am looking at the restricted forms page right now...
[02:40] <bimberi> _Marek_: i was a root login and su user before ubuntu, now i feel guilty using it on the Unix machines at work :)
[02:40] <orbin> adventchild: w32codecs covers them
[02:40] <kevin> so sudo export does not work?
[02:40] <abuchbinder> Euler: do you have libgl1-mesa-dev installed?
[02:40] <Seveas> if you run debian now and are pleased with it - stick to debian
[02:40] <adventchild> orbin: ok...  tyvm
[02:41] <Seveas> same goes for red hat, or even windows
[02:41] <Seveas> if you are looking for an alternative for Debian, Ubuntu is a good choice
[02:41] <swalchy> wow, it installed my picodisk in like, 5 seconds
[02:41] <Euler> abuchbinder, no I don't.  Thanks, that is probably the problem.
[02:41] <hanasaki> Seveas: i would like lvoe supported newer packages
[02:41] <Seveas> hanasaki, then give Ubuntu a shot
[02:41] <adventchild> orbin: i got it working...  thanks alot
[02:41] <hanasaki> i ran it.. liked it.. but had some issues w/ the nvidia drivers
[02:41] <orbin> adventchild: yw
[02:41] <Seveas> sarge  dapper may even be a supported upgrade 
[02:42] <polpak> hanasaki, ?? nvidia is pretty well supported
[02:42] <Cooner750> It says this and then sits there at the last line with the flashing text cursor http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11490
[02:42] <polpak> hanasaki, what issues?
[02:42] <adventchild> orbin: but there is no audio playing...  just the video...
[02:42] <hanasaki> can you aptget the nv stuff? i ended up geting the nv installer from their site and just running it :(
[02:42] <polpak> hanasaki, yes
[02:42] <carthik_away> will xgl compiz work on matrox video cards?
[02:42] <orbin> adventchild: w/ the mov file?
[02:42] <polpak> !tell hanasaki about nvidia
[02:42] <Seveas> hanasaki, it's evein installed by default 
[02:42] <adventchild> orbin: yes
[02:42] <Seveas> read what ubotu just sent
[02:43] <hanasaki> brb
[02:43] <orbin> adventchild: have you installed gstreamer0.8-mad?
[02:43] <adventchild> orbin: yes
[02:43] <orbin> adventchild: are you using totem-xine?
[02:44] <adventchild> orbin: no...  just totem...  i downloaded xine but it would not install
[02:44] <orbin> adventchild: w32codecs works better w/ totem-xine
[02:44] <kevin> tried setting apt-get by setting both environment and gnome http proxy, still doesn't work
[02:44] <polpak> adventchild, totem-xine isn't the same as xine
[02:44] <_jason> Cooner750: try to say my name at the beginning or else I'm gonna miss what you say, put 'ls /usr/lib/win32/' on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ please and give me a link?
[02:44] <zezu> what type of onboard graphics does an intel 865 have on it ?
[02:44] <cyphase> Ubuntu Mousepad
[02:44] <abuchbinder> Can I compile a single module for my kernel without recompiling the entire kernel?
[02:44] <stefano> hi
[02:45] <stefano> I just got Ubuntu for PPC
[02:45] <orbin> adventchild: yep, what polpak said.  totem-xine uses the xine engine while the default totem uses gstreamer
[02:45] <adventchild> orbin, polpak:  i will try to get totem-xine again.;..  ty
[02:45] <cyphase> Ubuntu Mouse
[02:45] <cyphase> Ubuntu Keyboard
[02:45] <polpak> adventchild, you should just be able to apt-get int
[02:45] <stefano> hey, I need some help
[02:45] <polpak> adventchild, err it
[02:45] <nalioth> stefano: what's up
[02:45] <polpak> !tell stefano about justask
[02:45] <tritium> abuchbinder: yes, you can
[02:45] <stefano> hold on
[02:45] <carlos> algum gajo tuga
[02:45] <Seveas> !pt
[02:45] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[02:45] <nalioth> carlos: que idioma?
[02:46] <amphi> kevin: man apt.conf says apt supports the http_proxy var
[02:46] <abuchbinder> tritium: Is there a tool or something? I have a modified xpad.c I want to compile.
[02:46] <stefano> when I open network admin, it doesn't prompt me with a user name/password, so I can't add any connections
[02:46] <stefano> I'm on the hardwire on a laptop and I want to config my wireless
[02:46] <_jason> nalioth: tuga = portuga ~ portugal
[02:46] <abuchbinder> tritium: Also, I got the vanilla kernel sources just in case... but I thought I just needed the headers to compile a module.
[02:46] <amphi> stefano: use iwconfig
[02:46] <tritium> abuchbinder: be right back
[02:46] <stefano> in command line?
[02:46] <amphi> stefano: yeah
[02:47] <nalioth> stefano: alt-f2 > gksudo network-admin
[02:47] <stefano> ah ok let me try
[02:47] <hanasaki> hm so you dont have to comp9ile anything to get nv support?
[02:47] <stefano> I'm new to Ubuntu, but not Linux
[02:47] <polpak> hanasaki, nope
[02:47] <polpak> hanasaki, just apt-get the packages
[02:47] <Cooner750> _jason: It says nothing when I run ls /usr/lib/win32. The folder itself is empty
[02:47] <nalioth> ubotu: tell stefano about root
[02:47] <kevin> amphi, tried it with that and still doesn't work
[02:47] <_jason> Cooner750: how did you install w32codecs?
[02:47] <hanasaki> but doesnt it need the kernel mod in the modules dir?
[02:48] <stefano> that still doesn't work
[02:48] <polpak> hanasaki, the package installs it
[02:48] <stefano> it doesn't prompt me
[02:48] <void^> if you use stock kernels you can use stock kernel mods.
[02:48] <Cooner750> _jason: Using this repository: http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf
[02:48] <hanasaki> hjmmm so ifi build my own kernel w/ make-kpg?
[02:48] <Cooner750> I wasnt able to find a .deb package of it anywhere
[02:49] <polpak> hanasaki, why make your own? (just curious)
[02:49] <amphi> kevin: then look at apt.conf(5)
[02:49] <hanasaki> to get some modules that may not be in the apt-get one
[02:49] <kevin> amphi, do I need to sudo export, or just export? sudo export said "no such command found"
[02:49] <polpak> hanasaki, I think the additional modules are also available packaged..
[02:49] <nalioth> kevin: what is it?
[02:49] <hanasaki> oh
[02:49] <_jason> Cooner750: what does ``  dpkg -l '*w32codecs*'   '' say?
[02:49] <adventchild> orbin, polpak:  i am installing t-xine now, is there any command to increase the quality of video?
[02:50] <void^> you can use the kernel source package to compile modules for the stock kernel
[02:50] <swalchy> right
[02:50] <hanasaki> so there are apt-get versions for all cpus?
[02:50] <polpak> hanasaki, pretty much
[02:50] <swalchy> I have ndiswrapper copied from my pico disk onto my computer
[02:50] <swalchy> how do I install it?
[02:50] <hanasaki> can you even aptget stuff like exim for a amd k6? k8? k7?
[02:50] <jibz> hi does any one know how to download song on ubuntu coz i am use to windows
[02:50] <void^> those are all i386.
[02:50] <hanasaki> hmm polpak dont htink deb has the pakcages for those modules
[02:50] <hanasaki> cool
[02:50] <adventchild> orbin, polpak:  the quality sucks, but i have downloaded the same file when i was running window$ and it was much better
[02:50] <amphi> hanasaki: no, just a few things, kernel, mplayer, ...
[02:51] <Cooner750> No packages found matching w32codecs_20050412-0unofficialubuntu1_i386.deb.
[02:51] <kevin> nalioth, when I sudo export HTTP_PROXY, it says "sudo: export: command not found
[02:51] <kevin> "
[02:51] <nalioth> kevin: you'll need to put EXPORT blah blah in your ~/.bashrc
[02:51] <orbin> adventchild: wait till you try t-xine
[02:51] <Cooner750> oops. _jason: "No packages found matching w32codecs_20050412-0unofficialubuntu1_i386.deb.
[02:51] <Cooner750> "
[02:51] <stefano> oh hah I didn't relize Ubugtu was a robot
[02:51] <Euler> arg.  Ok... I am new to this.  I installed libsdl1.2-dev yet I do not have SDL.h anywhere :(
[02:51] <stefano> I thought I was talking to a person...
[02:52] <BerryAllen> hi all, im trying to use ubuntu (latest), im my notebook, but i cant configure it with my videocard (i810) i read everything i found... but nothing works.
[02:52] <adventchild> orbin: i finished installing it, but no icon has appeared...  what command from the terminal do i use to ru it?
[02:52] <_jason> Cooner750: ok reinstall w32codecs, can you paste exactly what you input though?  (I expected something else)
[02:52] <polpak> Euler, are you sure?
[02:52] <adventchild> run*
[02:52] <nalioth> Cooner750: why are you not in ##apple ?
[02:52] <Euler> polpak, I ran "updatedb" then "locate SDL.h"
[02:52] <Cooner750> _jason: I input 'sudo apt-get install w32codecs'
[02:52] <amphi> Euler: dpkg -L libsdl1.2-dev will show what files the package installed
[02:52] <_jason> Cooner750: I meant for the dpkg thing
[02:53] <orbin> Euler: should be in /usr/include/SDL/SDL.h
[02:53] <nalioth> Cooner750: are you doing this on a mac?
[02:53] <amphi> Euler: it should be /usr/include/SDL/SDL.h
[02:53] <BerryAllen> anyone have i180 (+dri) working there?
[02:53] <Cooner750> I input 'dpkg -l *w32codecs*'
[02:53] <Cooner750> without quotes
[02:53] <_jason> Cooner750: yeah you needed quotes around *w32codecs* so '*w32codecs*', but nalioth's question is important
[02:54] <Euler> Hold on, user error.   I am going to slap Caleb upside the head.
[02:54] <Cooner750> nalioth: I'm at my aunt's house using it on her Pavilion
[02:54] <adventchild> nalioth: i just ran 'sudo apt-get install w32codecs' as well and was met with no installation candidates
[02:54] <amphi> Cooner750: without quotes, the shell expands the *s
[02:54] <nalioth> Cooner750: there are none in the repos
[02:54] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Cooner750 about restricted
[02:54] <_jason> nalioth: he has plf enabled it seems
[02:54] <amphi> Euler: heh
[02:54] <BerryAllen> anyone have i180 (+dri) working there?
[02:54] <kevin> is there something like lynx that comes with ubuntu?
[02:55] <tristanmike> adventchild: they were removed due to legal reasons, you have to download them elsewhere
[02:55] <amphi> kevin: w3m is a nice one; lynx is also available
[02:55] <adventchild> ah
[02:55] <polpak> kevin, how about lynx
[02:55] <nalioth> kevin: lynx, elinks, links and links2 are here (also w3m)
[02:55] <orbin> kevin: w3m
[02:55] <jibz> any one know how to download chart songs
[02:55] <jibz> plz
[02:55] <Cooner750> _jason: It says http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11491
[02:56] <abuchbinder> jibz: Chart songs? Hilarious ditties about the benefits of presenting data graphically?
[02:56] <orbin> jibz: wrong channel
[02:56] <_jason> Cooner750: dpkg -L w32codecs > pastebin
[02:56] <BerryAllen> tks a lot
[02:56] <hanasaki> what vendors are good for raid cards? bad for them?
[02:56] <jibz> ok
[02:56] <jibz> lol
[02:56] <docta_v> anyone had the problem where the mouse button #4 (or 5?) doesn't make firefox go back but makes it do some weird stuff instead
[02:57] <Cooner750> _jason: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11492
[02:57] <adventchild> how do i run totem-xine? no icon showed up after i dpkg'ed it
[02:58] <Siph0n> hey... if ./arm-linux-uclibc-gcc is a command, but arm-linux-uclibc-gcc isnt by itself without the "./" ... how do i fix that? :)
[02:58] <tristanmike> adventchild: it's used automatically, as the video engine
[02:58] <scott_> can someone who hasn't changed their groups for their first user type groups and tell me what it says? I accidently removed my user from all of them
[02:58] <Seveas> Siph0n, add the folder with arm-linux-ucibc-gcc to your $PATH
[02:58] <bimberi> Siph0n: the file has to be in a directory in your PATH
[02:58] <orbin> adventchild: through and & vid.
[02:58] <kevin> don't seem to have lynx, but maybe that's because I'm using edubuntu, but from what I read it is supposed to have everything the same from straight ubuntu
[02:58] <orbin> s/and/sd
[02:58] <Seveas> uid=1000(dennis) gid=1000(dennis) groups=4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom),25(floppy),29(audio),30(dip),44(video),46(plugdev),106(lpadmin),110(scanner),112(admin),117(fuse),1000(dennis)
[02:58] <Siph0n> k thanx :)
[02:58] <Seveas> Siph0n, --^
[02:58] <_jason> Cooner750: you are using mplayer from the repositories?
[02:59] <adventchild> tristanmike: so when i go to run a .mov, it will open using t-xine?
[02:59] <Cooner750> Yes. mplayer-386
[02:59] <tristanmike> adventchild: it should....but .mov are part of the w32codecs iirc
[02:59] <nalioth> tristanmike: libquicktime covers .mov
[02:59] <Cooner750> _jason: I used mplayer-386
[03:00] <adventchild> tristanmike: i am using totem right now and there is no audio...  but totem opened when i opened the .mov file...  i installed the w32codecs...
[03:00] <abuchbinder> tritium: Are you back, or should I get back to you when you're done de-voicing people?
[03:00] <tritium> abuchbinder: if we can chat later, that would be great.  Sorry
[03:00] <tristanmike> adventchild: I've had a problem like that with one .mov file, and vlc played the sound...I synced the two together to watch it :P, but then I installed mplayer and it played it fine..so
[03:01] <abuchbinder> tritium: No problem; I'll ping you again in an hour or so.
[03:01] <tritium> abuchbinder: okay
[03:01] <adventchild> tristanmike: so i should do....  im new to linux... dont know much at all
[03:01] <_jason> Cooner750: ok well what seems to be happening is that plf is correctly using the new location for the codecs but mplayer isn't seeing them.  This *should* fix you up: sudo rmdir /usr/lib/win32 && sudo ln -s /usr/lib/codecs /usr/lib/win32
[03:01] <tristanmike> adventchild: sure mplayer is great
[03:01] <BerryAllen> i dont know why i try to use that experimental distros :) back to my ond and good gentoo.
[03:02] <tristanmike> adventchild: just do this..."sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer"  that will take care of it for you
[03:02] <kevin> well thanks all, going to call it a night, will try again tomorrow :)
[03:02] <tristanmike> good night kevin
[03:02] <adventchild> tristanmike: ty
[03:02] <tristanmike> adventchild: np
[03:03] <Nihil85> hi
[03:03] <Cooner750> how do I restart ESD
[03:03] <Cooner750> ?
[03:03] <Cooner750> It quit...
[03:03] <_jason> Cooner750: alt-f2, enter 'esd' I think
[03:04] <conn> hi, does anyone here have a Dell Inspiron 8000?
[03:04] <_jason> Cooner750: 8200, should be similar
[03:04] <_jason> conn: ^
[03:04] <Nihil85> i wanted to know how to insert an ASCII code with ubuntu... I tried to type [Alt] +152 (for ex.) but it doesn't work...
[03:04] <Cooner750> I do a test on ESD and nothing happens now. It appears to work but no sound
[03:04] <cello_rasp> how do i burn an audio dvd in ubuntu? dvds +cds are both iso9660 so its possible in theory
[03:05] <vladuz976> what distro does linus torvalds use?
[03:05] <_jason> Cooner750: do you have anything playing sound?
[03:05] <conn> _jason: I have a very specific prob, but just in case.. are your page up/down keys working?
[03:05] <_jason> conn: yes
[03:05] <conn> ok, thx
[03:05] <scorchsaber> vladuz976: Maybe Windows :P
[03:05] <Nihil85> can anyone help me?
[03:05] <Nihil85> i wanted to know how to insert an ASCII code with ubuntu... I tried to type [Alt] +152 (for ex.) but it doesn't work...
[03:05] <Cooner750> No. Mplayer was before it crashed and I had to Force Quit it. Should I reboot?
[03:05] <wvelez> Nihil85: gucharmap
[03:05] <vladuz976> scorchsaber: yeah and i am wondering if bill gates might be using linux
[03:05] <swalchy> can someone help?
[03:05] <_jason> Cooner750: that would be the quickest way probably, but we can fish around if you prefer
[03:05] <Cooner750> Well. I have to go. At least I know the video works now :)
[03:05] <swalchy> how do I install ndsiwrapper?
[03:05] <Nihil85> wvelez, what's gucharmap?
[03:06] <scorchsaber> vladuz976: :D
[03:06] <tristanmike> swalchy: "sudo apt-get install ndsiwrapper"  iirc
[03:06] <_jason> Cooner750: so that link fixed up the video?
[03:06] <wvelez> Nihil85: gucharmap...so you can use different characters...
[03:06] <scorchsaber> vladuz976: Always watch the competition, eh?
[03:06] <adventchild> tristanmike: how would i go about uninstalling all the other stuff i put on here? like totem-xine? and the codecs that i installed, do i still need them for mplayer?
[03:06] <Cooner750> Yea. thanks :)
[03:06] <Cooner750> I'll have to make note of those
[03:06] <vladuz976> scorchsaber: i guess. but i wouldn'
[03:06] <swalchy> do that in terminal do I mike?
[03:06] <Nihil85> wvelez, i will try to find the same in my language, thanks
[03:06] <_jason> Cooner750: more recent packages of mplayer should find that directory with no problem
[03:07] <vladuz976> scorchsaber: i wouldn't be surprised if he really played around with linux at home, for fun
[03:07] <scorchsaber> vladuz976: Somehow I doubt it, but maybe that'
[03:07] <wvelez> Nihil85: gucharmap is installed by default in breezy
[03:07] <scorchsaber> shoot
[03:07] <scorchsaber> maybe that's just me
[03:07] <kbrooks> benchmarks & performance: how benchmarks suck for gauging performance. http://kbrooks.ath.cx/?p=34
[03:08] <orbin> adventchild: i'd leave it if you ask me.  totem's actually pretty nice.  search the forum, there's proabbly one small audio codec you're missing.
[03:08] <Nihil85> wvelez, i can't find that gucharmap in my breezy
[03:08] <bimberi> Seveas: can I /msg you?
[03:08] <scott_> uh oh. do you have to be in the group sudo to sudo? what if you accidently got rid of all your groups (by not appending with usermod) and so now you can't sudo to add yourself back to the group?
[03:09] <hellz_hunter> hey how is it going?
[03:09] <Seveas> bimberi, sure
[03:09] <troy__> hi
[03:09] <_jason> scott_: admin is the group you want, reboot in recovery mode and 'adduser your_user admin'
[03:09] <nismo> What is a good program for gnome that can enhance its look, ive been to gnome-look.org but im looking for something like widget type... any ideas?
[03:09] <Seveas> scott_, you should *NOT* be in the sudo group
[03:09] <troy__> has anyone installed GLX?
[03:09] <adventchild> orbin: i will b/c i am getting an external hd enclosure tomorrow...   the problem is that i only have a 5gb hd on this laptop...  wanted to make some room...  but i guess i will leave it as is
[03:09] <troy__> has anyone installed XGL??? sorry
[03:09] <hellz_hunter> i know this isnt kubuntu, but i have a question about installation (since i believe they are both the same thing)
[03:09] <Seveas> !xgl
[03:10] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[03:10] <adventchild> orbin: ty
[03:10] <nismo> "{
[03:10] <sistemas2> hola
[03:10] <_jason> nismo: try gdesklets
[03:10] <hellz_hunter> has anyone had any troubles during installation where xwindows gets started and instead of running the necessary desktop environment, you get stuck with the grey test window with a mouse pointer in the middle?
[03:10] <nismo> were can i get that at?
[03:10] <nismo> like what site
[03:11] <orbin> hellz_hunter: that is X iirc
[03:11] <tristanmike> nismo: "sudo apt-get install gdesklets"
[03:11] <scorchsaber> hellz_hunter: Yes, but that was with another distro
[03:11] <_jason> !info gdesklets
[03:11] <ubotu> gdesklets: (Architecture for desktop applets), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.35.2-1build1 (breezy), Packaged size: 404 kB, Installed size: 2260 kB
[03:11] <scorchsaber> hellz_hunter: I never fixed it
[03:11] <_jason> nismo: have you enabled the universe repository?
[03:11] <nismo> is there a site were i can see how it works or sn's of it?
[03:11] <Toma-> wow... whats with all the voices?
[03:11] <Seveas> Toma-, accident
[03:11] <tristanmike> nismo: http://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/
[03:11] <hellz_hunter> scorchsaber never fixed what?
[03:11] <Toma-> ouch :D
[03:11] <hellz_hunter> scorchsaber what distro i mean?
[03:12] <tristanmike> Toma-: undoing a mess from earlier
[03:12] <nismo> lemme cehck it out than i'll see if i wanna get it
[03:12] <Toma-> someone tip over the voice box? XD
[03:12] <adventchild> orbin, tristanmike: ty for your help...  all of a sudden totem is playing audio and vid...
[03:12] <Blarion> what are gdesklets?
[03:12] <scorchsaber> hellz_hunter: Slax. Slackware on live CD
[03:13] <_jason> !gdesklets
[03:13] <Blarion> Keep hearing about em
[03:13] <adventchild> orbin, tristanmike: o well
[03:13] <rsyncx> is there a way to install specific package version on ubuntu?
[03:13] <ubotu> from memory, gdesklets is gDesklets provides an advanced architecture for desktop applets -- tiny displays sitting on your desktop in a symbiotic relationship of eye candy and usefulness Homepage is http://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/
[03:13] <Blarion> no idea
[03:13] <rsyncx> throught apt-get?
[03:13] <orbin> adventchild: lol, how's the quality?
[03:13] <skynet> How do I get permission to drag and drop a folder into the USR folder?
[03:13] <tristanmike> Blarion: little programs that run on your desktop and do neat things like display the weather or give you a "mac osx" style dock
[03:13] <Seveas> skynet, you shouldn't want that
[03:13] <_jason> skynet: what are you trying to do?
[03:13] <adventchild> orbin: better, but not up to par with the way it was with M$
[03:13] <anonobomber> does anyone know how I could implement python into the ubuntu installer so that I could run python scripts to suppliment the installation of it?
[03:13] <Blarion> sounds cool
[03:13] <hellz_hunter> scorchsaber i just left slackware, trying out kubuntu, but im getting that grey screen when it goes from installation to starting x
[03:13] <adventchild> orbin: much better tho...  ty
[03:13] <Blarion> kinda like widgets in mac os?
[03:14] <skynet> I downloaded a ZIP file that has files that need to go into the USR folder
[03:14] <adventchild> orbin: could barely see anything before...
[03:14] <swalchy> hoe do change to directories and stuff?
[03:14] <_jason> skynet: what are you trying to install?
[03:14] <swalchy> cd c:\ndiswrapper1.12 ?
[03:14] <skynet> SDL1.2.9
[03:14] <tristanmike> Blarion: similar, yes
[03:14] <_jason> ubotu: tell swalchy about cli
[03:15] <adventchild> !cli
[03:15] <ubotu> CLI means Command Line Interface, aka the terminal or console. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/ or http://www.tuxfiles.org
[03:15] <skynet> _jason: SDL
[03:15] <orbin> skynet: sdl 1.2.7 is in the repos
[03:15] <adventchild> !sql
[03:15] <ubotu> adventchild: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:15] <scorchsaber> ubotu: And here was me thinking "Common Language Infrastructure". My mistake
[03:15] <ubotu> scorchsaber: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[03:16] <scorchsaber> eh--what?
[03:16] <_jason> ubotu: tell scorchsaber about yourself
[03:16] <skynet> orbin: Not quite sure what you mean, I'm somewhat new...
[03:16] <skynet> orbin: im on the repos menu now
[03:16] <Stealth_> Someone mind helping me fix my HP printer?
[03:17] <assfadf> !multiverse
[03:17] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[03:17] <IdleOne> !print
[03:17] <ubotu> print is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org
[03:17] <odin> I don't need to download anything to get dual-monitor display, I can just mod X11.config, right?
[03:17] <_jason> skynet: do you know about synaptic?
[03:17] <scorchsaber> Jesus Christ. Thats the second time I've fallen for a bot
[03:17] <adventchild> Stealth_: what seems to be the problem?
[03:17] <tristanmike> !language
[03:17] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[03:17] <_jason> scorchsaber: hehe
[03:17] <scorchsaber> I need to start talking to real people.....
[03:17] <skynet> _jason: Yes, should I just do a search in the synaptic screen?
[03:17] <conn> hi, I can't get the page up/down keys working on my laptop, xev isn't recognising them and the kernel log shows no messages when they're pressed, can someone suggest anything I can do to try to fix it?
[03:17] <tristanmike> scorchsaber: sometimes ubotu is the smartest one here :P
[03:17] <_jason> skynet: yes, search for libsdl
[03:17] <Stealth_> advent: all right, i had updated this machine to dapper, looks like it broke printing, reverted back to breezy, still not working...
[03:18] <adventchild> conn: i have the same problem, but i have a latitude CPTS
[03:18] <Stealth_> advent: it all seems fine, pritner detected in the Print Manager, but test page not working
[03:18] <scorchsaber> dude, I just read him saying stuff-I think he's helping people, but jesus, he's a bot!
[03:18] <scorchsaber> (or she)
[03:18] <odin> yes, let's be equal-opportunists for our bots!
[03:18] <adventchild> Stealth_: have you had problems with the printer before?
[03:18] <odin> be they bots or fembots
[03:19] <Stealth_> advent: and I had this thing working over the LAN b4, now its directly ocnnect and it STILl wont work
[03:19] <conn> adventchild: does every other key work fine?
[03:19] <scorchsaber> yes
[03:19] <rsyncx> hello? how do i install upgraded version of a package? is the way to specify specific advanced version of packge to be installed?
[03:19] <scorchsaber> indeed.
[03:19] <adventchild> conn: yup
[03:19] <_Marek_> i need to install mplayer for dapper drake, anyone can help?
[03:19] <adventchild> conn: well...
[03:19] <_Marek_> it's not available
[03:19] <IdleOne> scorchsaber, ubotu provides links to common and uncommon help ppl asks for so it is used alot to point ppl to the correct page :)
[03:19] <adventchild> conn: sometimes the i, j, and k keys dont work
[03:19] <scorchsaber> IdleOne...bleh
[03:19] <Stealth_> advent: no, after dapper or sumthin seems it got borked, used to be fine
[03:19] <clue> hi
[03:19] <adventchild> conn: maybe thats a keyboard problem tho...
[03:19] <TruckerMan> wheres that swalchy ?
[03:19] <_jason> _Marek_: #ubuntu+1 for dapper help
[03:20] <TruckerMan> you there swalchy ?
[03:20] <adventchild> Stealth_: so it sees the printer and all, just wont print?
[03:20] <conn> adventchild: ok
[03:20] <Stealth_> advent: yes
[03:20] <odin> so does anybody know if all I need to do to get dual-monitor display is modify X11.config for 2 Screens/Monitors?
[03:20] <shrewduser> could i have an opinion: what is the best free native linux game?
[03:20] <orbin> rsyncx: apt-get install <package> gets the latest one, or you can do the upgrade thing via synaptic
[03:20] <IdleOne> scorchsaber, the reason ppl are pointed to the wiki pages is so they can learn/teach themself how to do things but if you get stuck you are more then welcome to ask in here :)
[03:20] <adventchild> Stealth_: have you tried printing a doc? or just a test page?
[03:20] <abuchbinder> Does anyone here know how to compile a single .c file into a kernel module? I have kernel headers; I just don't want to recompile the entire kernel. I found tutorials on compiling the whole kernel, but nothing about a single module.
[03:21] <tristanmike> shrewduser: what type of game? action, rpg, fps ? what?
[03:21] <orbin> shrewduser: frozen bubble is very popular
[03:21] <rsyncx> orbin, in current level of distro, how would i go forward, if i want to insall new packages.
[03:21] <anonobomber> abuchbinder: what module are you trying to compile?
[03:21] <rsyncx> orbin, i want o install newer version of some development tools, but i don't fancy upgrading whole distro
[03:21] <Stealth_> advent: test page, from gedit, from Ooo, nothing
[03:21] <odin> are there actually some good games for Linux?  I heard that Linux's gamescope was very limited
[03:21] <shrewduser> tristanmike: i'm into most genre's, really just wondering what's considered "best" regardless of genre
[03:21] <rsyncx> orbin, and getting all the rest of bugs with it.
[03:21] <adventchild> Stealth_: hm...
[03:21] <orbin> rsyncx: what tools specifically
[03:21] <Stealth_> odin: neverball is pretty cool! :D
[03:21] <tristanmike> shrewduser: I like America's army and Enemy Territory
[03:22] <shrewduser> ta
[03:22] <adventchild> Stealth_: does it start the job? like does the printer warm up?
[03:22] <tristanmike> shrewduser: also BoS is really good
[03:22] <abuchbinder> anonobomber: A modified version of xpad.c.
[03:22] <odin> out of curiousity, does anybody own a gp2x, the handheld that runs Linux?
[03:22] <orbin> rsyncx: most updates are for security reasons.  you could go w/ backports, but you risk breakage iirc
[03:22] <rsyncx> orbin, ruby
[03:22] <abuchbinder> anonobomber: The stock version treats the D-pad as axes, and I need it treated as buttons so I can play DDR.
[03:22] <rsyncx> orbin, won't backports upgrade my whole distro?
[03:22] <Stealth_> advent: nope, b4 it used to turn the printer on, make noise, print, now it just stays off
[03:22] <nalioth> rsyncx: they will not
[03:22] <stanna> azureus has been removed from ubuntu? or goes by a different name?
[03:23] <nalioth> ubotu: tell stanna about azureus
[03:23] <shrewduser> tristenmike: BoS?
[03:23] <bill_wad> anyone want to help with a OmniBook 900 sound problem?
[03:23] <tristanmike> shrewduser: Battle of Survival
[03:23] <stanna> thanks dude
[03:23] <orbin> rsyncx: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[03:23] <shrewduser> tristenmike: what genre?
[03:23] <adventchild> Stealth_: did you try turning the printer on manually? and does the printer have a test page button on itsself?
[03:23] <tristanmike> shrewduser: like starcraft
[03:23] <stanna> i forgot about the wiki :)
[03:23] <anonobomber> abuchbinder: gcc -o foo foo.c
[03:24] <shrewduser> tristenmike: starcraft esque quality?
[03:24] <odin> ooo, Real-Time Strategy
[03:24] <abuchbinder> anonobomber: No, it's a kernel module. That doesn't work. I get a whole heap of errors.
[03:24] <tristanmike> shrewduser: well it isn't developed by a multi million dollar coporation, if that's what you're asking...:P
[03:24] <orbin> rsyncx: what version of ruby are you after?
[03:24] <Stealth_> advent: just tried from ooo, turned it on manually, pressed a little button with an arrow on it, just flash orange upon press, still nothing...
[03:24] <shrewduser> tristenmike: gotchya, i'll go look at a screen grab :)
[03:24] <anonobomber> abuchbinder: you need to write a makefile for it
[03:25] <rsyncx> orbin, 1.8.4
[03:25] <abuchbinder> anonobomber: Is there a template Makefile somewhere?
[03:25] <adventchild> Stealth_: maybe try uninstalling the printer and install it again?  maybe that would work seeing as it worked before you did your update
[03:25] <sean> It seems that the people who are being denied the permission to talk all begin with the same letter
[03:26] <Stealth_> advent: i have multiple times, no go :(
[03:26] <orbin> rsyncx: well, 1.9 is in universe
[03:26] <sean> I know little about IRC - are those people simple bots with randomly generated names?
[03:26] <anonobomber> abuchbinder: look at some other module source's makefile, they're not much different from one another except for a couple paramaters
[03:26] <HedgeMage> sean: -v doesn't do anything, the chan isn't moderated.
[03:26] <adventchild> Stealth_: hm...  but the printer its self wont work either huh?
[03:26] <shrewduser> it would be really nice to have an open source CounterStrike clone....
[03:26] <anonobomber> abuchbinder: makefiles in the kernel source for driver modules would work
[03:26] <TheseAre> http://gentlenews.com/theshow/ Live in 5 minutes
[03:26] <swalchy> right
[03:26] <Stealth_> advent: waht i dont get is if i just cleanly installed breezy, why it still wont work, it must be a configuration file in the home partition, seeing as how ive kept that the whole way through
[03:26] <swalchy> I'm installing ndiswrapper
[03:26] <vinboy_> can I resize my partition without formatting it?
[03:26] <conn> where's the most convenient place to put startup scripts?
[03:26] <swalchy> now the instructions say to get intot he directory and run "make"
[03:27] <Stealth_> advent: no, printer still aint doin its job -.-
[03:27] <HedgeMage> sean: a newbie staffer (me) accidentally +v everyone and the chanops are fixing slowly so as not to re-spam
[03:27] <orbin> sean: they're just working their way thru the list
[03:27] <swalchy> but it then says
[03:27] <adventchild> Stealth_: do you have another box to hook it up to?
[03:27] <abuchbinder> anonobomber: Those makefiles in the kernel source are recursive makefiles; they're not complete in and of themselves.
[03:27] <amphi> HedgeMage: ;)
[03:27] <Stealth_> advent: is there a way to clear every printer related configuration off and reinstall it?
[03:27] <Xenguy> conn: they should go in /etc/init.d
[03:27] <swalchy> Can't find kernel build files in /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-389/build
[03:27] <swalchy> ..what is that?
[03:27] <Stealth_> advent: yea...
[03:27] <swalchy> anyone?
[03:27] <amphi> swalchy: normally a symlink
[03:27] <abuchbinder> anonobomber: I also tried copying xpad.c into the kernel build directory and doing 'make xpad', but that failed as well. I don't want to have to build the entire kernel.
[03:27] <anonobomber> abuchbinder: thats okay, you'll have to provide the SUBDIRS paramater to make
[03:27] <swalchy> how do I correct it?
[03:27] <adventchild> Stealth_: to be honest, i dont know much about linux...  try hooking it to the other box...
[03:27] <sean> what is -/+v?
[03:28] <abuchbinder> anonobomber: Huh?
[03:28] <tristanmike> sean: take/give voice, the ability to speak
[03:28] <amphi> swalchy: it points to the kernel source tree
[03:28] <conn> Xenguy: I mean custom scripts, for example, just to add keys to xmodmap
[03:28] <bill_wad> no takers for debugging the sound on OB900?
[03:28] <ubuntu2> Hey is it possible to replace the kernal of an installation with only a live cd?
[03:28] <Stealth_> advent: ok, lemme go grab my laptop...
[03:28] <swalchy> right
[03:28] <insta> I'm having some problems with using Ubuntu as a server machine ... my other Ubuntu boxes are unable to mount an NFS share, saying RPC has timed out.  Where should I start looking?
[03:28] <swalchy> ..what's that mean? xD
[03:28] <adventchild> Stealth_: if it still doesnt work, possibly something fried the printer?
[03:28] <Xenguy> conn: using gnome?
[03:28] <anonobomber> abuchbinder: I'd help you out more but I'm really busy now
[03:28] <HedgeMage> sean: voice/devoice... it controls the ability to talk in moderated chans
[03:28] <conn> Xenguy: nope, kde
[03:29] <Xenguy> conn: dunno
[03:29] <sean> New to me!
[03:29] <swalchy> *cries*
[03:29] <swalchy> this is all so confusing!
[03:29] <Stealth_> advent: well, laptop doesnt have a parallel port :P but no, I know tihs printer is working fine, just not on this machine under Ubuntu
[03:29] <abuchbinder> anonobomber: No problem.
[03:29] <rsyncx> is there masking files in debian like in gentoo? lol
[03:29] <rsyncx> i am gentoo noob
[03:29] <amphi> swalchy: have you installed the kernel source package?
[03:29] <adventchild> Stealth_: hm...  do you have a seperate partition you can try to load another os in and try it?
[03:30] <swalchy> depends
[03:30] <orbin> rsyncx: did you get my last message?
[03:30] <swalchy> how would i do that?
[03:30] <insta> Anyone?
[03:30] <anonobomber> abuchbinder: iirc the makefile for megaraid sources from lsi would be a good example to work from
[03:30] <Stealth_> advent: this machine has Win2k on dualboot, ill go in there and try it, bb then
[03:30] <rsyncx> rsyncx, rails won't work with 1.9
[03:30] <abuchbinder> anonobomber: Thanks.
[03:30] <adventchild> Stealth_: other than that idk...  sry....  maybe someone else would be able to help more/
[03:30] <rsyncx> orbin, rails won't work with 1.9
[03:30] <adventchild> gl
[03:30] <swalchy> it in the synaptic thing amphi?
[03:31] <Stealth_> advent: np man, looking through the forums, this is for some really experienced cupsys user or sumthin! :D
[03:31] <rsyncx> orbin, is there way to install stuff, besides manually downloading package and doing dpkg install?
[03:31] <rsyncx> orbin, if you want specific version.
[03:31] <insta> I'm having some problems with using Ubuntu as a server machine ... my other Ubuntu boxes are unable to mount an NFS share, saying RPC has timed out.  Where should I start looking?
[03:32] <orbin> rsyncx: seems liek the best way to do it to me
[03:32] <adventchild> is there any way to make the visualization in rythembox do on the desktop as the background?
[03:32] <adventchild> go*
[03:32] <orbin> rsyncx: what are masking files?
[03:32] <swalchy> where's this Kernel source package?
[03:32] <DonL> Anybody know of a way of making the Xfce4 weather applet work in Gnome?
[03:33] <orbin> DonL: don't fancy gnome's applet?
[03:33] <DonL> orbin, yes, but it's sometime a couple days late, and I really like the Xfce one
[03:33] <tooleh> Hey guys
[03:33] <tooleh> Was wondering if I could get a little help
[03:33] <tooleh> (distro wont boot)
[03:33] <TruckerMan> swalchy did you try Synaptic?
[03:34] <tooleh> Uh hi?
[03:34] <rsyncx> orbin, masking in gentoo allows you to specify range of versions that is allowed to be installed on your machine.  you can override range of packages, even the ones to be released in the future for next level of distro.
[03:34] <swalchy> whatc architecture is Ubuntu built on?
[03:34] <adventchild> does anyone know if there is any way to make the visualization in rythembox go on the desktop as the background?
[03:34] <orbin> DonL: my guess is no
[03:34] <TruckerMan> Debian
[03:35] <rsyncx> orbin, often stuff available fast, but at your own risk :-)
[03:35] <DonL> Okay, orbin , thanks
[03:35] <Seveas> swalchy, what do you mean with architecture?
[03:35] <TruckerMan> Debian i though
[03:35] <swalchy> http://packages.debian.org/unstable/net/wireless-tools
[03:35] <TruckerMan> t
[03:35] <swalchy> I need to know which one to download
[03:35] <tooleh> Basically I copied my fonts from windows and then reconfigured my fonts. Now, x/any x application will not load. :( - http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=892064#post892064
[03:35] <swalchy> ooh
[03:35] <swalchy> truckerman!
[03:35] <rsyncx> orbin, but I want to try something new, since gentoo been braking on me alot
[03:35] <adventchild> debian
[03:35] <TruckerMan> swalchy, just use symantec
[03:35] <swalchy> how did you install ndiswrapper? >.>
[03:35] <tooleh> :/
[03:35] <Seveas> swalchy, none - never use packages from debian on ubuntu
[03:35] <TruckerMan> hehe, i'm online with ubuntu
[03:35] <swalchy> tell me
[03:35] <tooleh> Can anyone see my messages?
[03:35] <orbin> DonL: actually, you can.  run xfce4-panel
[03:35] <TruckerMan> it was easy
[03:35] <swalchy> what's this kernel source package I need to install?
[03:35] <tristanmike> tooleh: I can
[03:35] <rsyncx> orbin, so naturally when you have a hammer everything else looks like a nail ;-)
[03:35] <adventchild> sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper?
[03:36] <swalchy> tried that
[03:36] <swalchy> didn't like it
[03:36] <DonL> orbin, under gnome?
[03:36] <orbin> DonL: but that brings in the whole panel, not just the applet
[03:36] <tooleh> Cool. ETA on some help?
[03:36] <DonL> Ah. I see.
[03:36] <TruckerMan> errrr synamptic err whatever
[03:36] <Xenguy> !patience
[03:36] <adventchild> sudo aptitude ndiswrapper?
[03:36] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Please be aware there are a lot of questions, but only maybe few who might know the answer for you. Please be patient. Your attitude may determine their willingness to help you.
[03:36] <Seveas> tooleh, where does the booting stop?
[03:36] <tooleh> fair enough.
[03:36] <tooleh> ah, well it stops when it tries to load x
[03:36] <swalchy> is it this nfs-kernel-server thing I need to install?
[03:37] <tooleh> ie it starts loading it, I see the cursor, and it dies back to prompt
[03:37] <TruckerMan> swalchy, just use that wiki thing you directed me to
[03:37] <orbin> rsyncx: i think you can do something like "lock the version" via synaptic
[03:37] <tooleh> tries that a few times then tells me that I'm screwed.
[03:37] <swalchy> with the drivers on?
[03:37] <orbin> rsyncx: i don't know if it's as powerful as the gentoo method though
[03:37] <Seveas> tooleh, what does your xorg log say?
[03:37] <DonL> orbin, I'm torn. I love the beauty and simplicity of Xfce, and I like the functionality and maturity of Gnome
[03:37] <tooleh> I have no idea, how would I get it? (I'm on windows at the moment, cannot boot to ubuntu)
[03:38] <adventchild> does anyone know if there is any way to make the visualization in rythembox the desktop background?
[03:38] <swalchy> this is annoying
[03:38] <Seveas> tooleh, in the command line: less /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[03:38] <rsyncx> DonL, it looses my settings when i shut down with ctrl-alt-backspace every time
[03:38] <rsyncx> DonL, xfce
[03:38] <TruckerMan> i used the .deb packages for the gtk and the  util and used the command line to install them then used the gtk thing to config the card, use the list to find the best driver too
[03:38] <orbin> DonL: :)  i like xfce, but it looks horrible on screens that can't go higher than 1024x768 imo.  everything's too big.  gnome lets you shrink a lot of stuff down
[03:39] <TruckerMan> i gotta split, swalchy, either i got lucky or its realy dasier then youre making
[03:39] <ubuntu2> on a live cd what do I do to mount a harddrive?
[03:39] <DonL> rsyncx, It never does for me. I can pick and choose between the two, and never have a problem
[03:39] <tooleh> seveas: Shall I go boot to ubuntu now and write it down? (I have no way of getting the info back into windows direct)
[03:39] <orbin> adventchild: i'll put you out of your misery and say probably not
[03:39] <pulgoki> does debian have rss feeds on security alerts?
[03:39] <TruckerMan> or something but i gotta go, peace
[03:39] <adventchild> orbin: lol ty
[03:39] <tooleh> seveas: Shall I try open it in the live boot?
[03:40] <DonL> orbin, that's what I use... 1024 x 768
[03:40] <adventchild> orbin: that would be kind of cool....  i can in window$ :(
[03:40] <Seveas> tooleh, that would probably be the easiest
[03:40] <swalchy> huh? what
[03:40] <swalchy> ..damnit
[03:40] <tooleh> seveas: Ok, I'll be back in a bit - I'll try get IRC on the live distro
[03:40] <tooleh> :)
[03:41] <orbin> DonL: like i said, it's nice.  but i like to have a larger workspace area than what xfce gives
[03:41] <scorchsaber>  What IS voice, anyway?
[03:41] <ubuntu2> What do I do to mount a HD on a live cd?
[03:41] <adventchild> !tell scorchsaber about voice
[03:41] <Seveas> ubuntu2, system->admin->disks
[03:41] <DonL> orbin. Ah. I wish I could go bigger as well. A friend has a Mac with a 30 inch screen. It's awesome
[03:41] <adventchild> voice means you can talk i believe
[03:42] <ubuntu2> thanks
[03:42] <Seveas> !forget drxx
[03:42] <ubotu> Seveas: i forgot drxx
[03:42] <Seveas> dabaR, please stop adding that
[03:42] <swalchy> time to break the forums
[03:42] <ubuntu2> Seveas, any chance you know if there's a way I can't sort of drop in a kernel to replace a broken  one?
[03:42] <orbin> scorchsaber: <HedgeMage> sean: voice/devoice... it controls the ability to talk in moderated chans
[03:42] <adventchild> !hugs for the room
[03:42] <adventchild> !hug
[03:42] <ubotu> ubotu gives adventchild a hug.  There, there, is that better?
[03:42] <DonL> haha
[03:43] <adventchild> kind of thanks ubotu
[03:43] <orbin> ubuntu2: waht FS is it formatted as?
[03:43] <scorchsaber> !****
[03:43] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, scorchsaber
[03:43] <scorchsaber> damn
[03:43] <scorchsaber> didn't work
[03:43] <Seveas> !hug =~ s/ubotu/<action>/
[03:43] <ubotu> OK, Seveas
[03:43] <ubuntu2> ext3 regular ubuntu install.
[03:44] <adventchild> Seveas: what did that do?
[03:44] <orbin> get a room if ayou want to play w/ it :) : /msg ubotu
[03:44] <ubuntu2> I tried reinstalling but leaving files intact but it gave me kernal choices of that was there.
[03:44] <scorchsaber> what's with all the voice removal?
[03:44] <cafuego_> !seveas =~ s/brain/donut/
[03:44] <ubotu> cafuego_: that doesn't contain 'brain'
[03:44] <Seveas> scorchsaber, we told you bedore already....
[03:45] <jaye> i was wondering if anyone could point me in the direction of a doc for making a patch?
[03:45] <Seveas> cafuego, hehe, ubotu's reply is surprisingly appropriate ;)
[03:45] <adventchild> !hug scorchsaber
[03:45] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, adventchild
[03:45] <cafuego_> Seveas: I wasn't going to say anything .. ;-)
[03:45] <prospero2005> Anyone know how I access Login Screen Setup
[03:45] <adventchild> lol
[03:45] <Seveas> prospero2005, system  admin  login screen
[03:46] <prospero2005> thank you
[03:46] <DonL> Must go. Thanks for the help.
[03:46] <BostonBubz> Does anyone know how to make the keyboard volume controls change the analog front rather than analog center???
[03:46] <adventchild> anyone have any neat ideas for a newbie in linux to do? (easy nifty stuff)
[03:46] <jaye> prospero2005: or gdmsetup as root
[03:46] <Seveas> adventchild, nautilus /usr/share/doc
[03:47] <Seveas> and browse around ;)
[03:47] <adventchild> ty
[03:47] <prospero2005> Actually,I'm using kubuntu
[03:47] <Howdy125> Will someone please send me an unaltered flight 6 source.list ...
[03:47] <prospero2005> Having a problem finding system->admin
[03:47] <Seveas> Howdy125, paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d6666
[03:47] <orbin> prospero2005: heh, you probably would
[03:48] <SysFail> whats that script for dapper thats like automatix??
[03:48] <ubuntu_rocks> easy ubuntu
[03:48] <tristanmike> !automatix
[03:48] <ubotu> methinks automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[03:48] <orbin> prospero2005: there's #kubuntu and #kde if no one answers in here
[03:48] <prospero2005> Essentially, I want to enable xdmcp
[03:48] <adventchild> whats better? frostwire or BT? ::iyo::
[03:48] <BostonBubz> anyone familiar with configuring a keyboard for alsamixer?
[03:48] <SysFail> says automatix wont work with dapper for some reason
[03:49] <adventchild> how do you do polls in rooms?
[03:49] <ubuntu_rocks> Sysfail: try easyubuntu
[03:49] <Seveas> SysFail, automatix is crap anyway
[03:49] <SysFail> ok
[03:49] <tristanmike> !easyubuntu
[03:49] <ubotu> easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu
[03:49] <ubuntu2> So does anyone know if there is a way to replace the kernal of an existing ubunt installation via a livecd?
[03:49] <korben> newbie question, is it going to break things if I remove ubuntu-standard?
[03:49] <orbin> adventchild: this is primarily a support channel  /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:49] <SysFail> thats the one
[03:49] <SysFail> thanks guys
[03:49] <Howdy125> ty Seveas
[03:49] <zezu> how do i pass lib dir to search for shared objects to gcc/g++ ?
[03:49] <Stealth870> advent: lol, guess what, I'm under a LiveCD of Warty and the printer works -.-
[03:50] <zezu> i'm getting an error in something i'm writing saying it can't find a .so file that is in /usr/local/lib/
[03:50] <Seveas> zezu, -L/path/to/libdir
[03:50] <amphi> ubuntu2: you could boot off the livecd, mount the hd / somewhere, chroot to it, and install a kernel
[03:50] <zezu> thx
[03:50] <orbin> korben: apt-cache show ubuntu-standard
[03:50] <orbin> korben: it talsk about removing it
[03:51] <orbin> korben: but it looks like just a metapackage
[03:51] <adventchild> Stealth870: so it would seem it might be a conflict or driver issue...  did you try to change the printers IRQ?
[03:51] <tooleh> Hi again!
[03:51] <Stealth870> advent: how would i go about doing that?
[03:51] <tooleh> I have my xorg log
[03:51] <zezu> Seveas, would that stop it from finding a shared lib ?
[03:52] <korben> orbin: yea thats why I don't get it. I'm planning on upgrading eventually, can I just reinstall it when I want to? I want to remove some of the packages that depend on it
[03:52] <zezu> or is that something different, b/c its not working, its finding the libs it needs to static link to but not the dynamic one
[03:52] <Seveas> zezu, no it will only find more ;)
[03:52] <zezu> err
[03:52] <adventchild> Stealth870: in linux i honestly have no clue...  i am a CSS in window$, first time linux user...  sry...
[03:52] <Cin> 'Lo.
[03:52] <Gabriel> Holas
[03:52] <zezu> i deff. woreded that one wrong
[03:52] <orbin> korben: yes, you can reinstall it
[03:52] <zezu> would it help finding a shared lib i should ask
[03:52] <adventchild> !IRQ
[03:52] <ubotu> adventchild: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:52] <orbin> korben: same as ubuntu-desktop i would assume
[03:52] <amphi> adventchild: you're a cascading style sheet???
[03:52] <Stealth870> advent: k
[03:52] <Gabriel> Espaol?
[03:53] <korben> orbin: ok thanks
[03:53] <Stealth870> lol amphi
[03:53] <Cin> Just thought I'd check out the chan, just installed Ubuntu -- good stuff. :)
[03:53] <adventchild> amphi: lol...  Computer Support Specialist
[03:53] <Stealth870> !printers
[03:53] <ubotu> somebody said printers was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org
[03:53] <adventchild> amphi: well...  CSS in training...  im in school at the moment...  just about done tho...
[03:53] <orbin> ops: almost there!
[03:53] <ubuntu2> amphi, ok how do I install a kernel?
[03:53] <Gabriel> Hello Argentina
[03:54] <amphi> ubuntu2: apt-get install some_kernel - or build one from source?
[03:54] <orbin> !es
[03:54] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:54] <reaps> hey guys is 2048 cache better than 1024..????
[03:54] <_jason> reaps: it's how you use it that counts
[03:54] <zezu> i dont see why it won't find a dynamic file that is there ;|
[03:54] <stunit77> yes
[03:54] <amphi> reaps: on a processor? yeah
[03:55] <reaps> ok
[03:55] <stunit77> 2048 = 2 MB cache compared to 1MB
[03:55] <Cin> More cache means less retrieving of fresh datarixen.
[03:55] <Seveas> bye all, long past bedtime here
[03:55] <reaps> so 2048 on pentium M is better than 1024 ..rite..??
[03:55] <orbin> *round of applause*
[03:55] <amphi> n8 Seveas
[03:55] <amphi> reaps: indeed
[03:55] <stunit77> on any system
[03:55] <_jason> Seveas: heh well deserved after the -v * 700
[03:55] <reaps> ok..
[03:55] <stunit77> bigger that cache the better
[03:55] <reaps> thanks guys..
[03:56] <cafuego_> reaps: Well, it also depends on what you aim to do with the PC.
[03:56] <sgt-dyke> hello everyone ...
[03:56] <cafuego_> reaps: If all you do is run irc and aweb browser, you hardly need 2MB of cache.
[03:56] <reaps> cafuego laptp so just music and homework..
[03:56] <tooleh> Hey, can someone else help me with my font/x dieing problem now Seveas has gone.
[03:56] <tooleh> It is preventing my OS from loading.
[03:56] <tooleh> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11493
[03:56] <tooleh> ^My x log
[03:56] <amphi> cafuego_: 2MB seems pretty standard on pemtium m these days
[03:56] <tooleh> Thanks!
[03:56] <reaps> DVD maybe..
[03:56] <cafuego_> reaps: A celeron will do, then ;-)
[03:56] <orbin> cafuego: heh, it's not the size, it's what you do with it right?
[03:56] <william> tonyyarusso, thanks for the help earlier, everything works fine now with my music
[03:57] <sgt-dyke> i want to know.... how to use... something plug on usb like my MP3 player
[03:57] <caminomaster> Hello
[03:57] <reaps> Celero...uughhh!
[03:57] <tonyyarusso> william: Wonderful.
[03:57] <cafuego_> reaps: Still, if the extra cache doesn't cost that much more, go for it.
[03:57] <bill_wad> any have a nm256 based sound card working?
[03:57] <sgt-dyke> should i mount something somewhere
[03:57] <adventchild> ::shudders:: celeron...  i have that on my laptop...
[03:57] <orbin> sgt-dyke: hopefully it automounts
[03:57] <william> tonyyarusso, i have another question tho...one of the drives it has on my desktop everytime i try to access it is says i don't have the permission to do so, why?
[03:57] <sgt-dyke> alright...
[03:57] <amphi> adventchild: does it have any l2 cache at all?
[03:58] <reaps> celeron suck major ass..!!  im all AMD guy..
[03:58] <adventchild> rather have an AMD, but ill settle for a P4
[03:58] <sgt-dyke> and where should i find it orbin ???
[03:58] <adventchild> amphi: dont think so....  its OLD
[03:58] <orbin> adventchild: nothing wrong w/ them if the box is just a workhorse
[03:58] <reaps> yep yep..
[03:58] <tooleh> Can anyone help me?
[03:58] <orbin> sgt-dyke: find what?  just plug it in
[03:58] <sgt-dyke> i know something work cause my mp3 is lighten ... but
[03:58] <adventchild> orbin: true, but mine is not...
[03:58] <tooleh> My problem is kinda serious...
[03:58] <cafuego_> just make sure you get 1GB ram.
[03:58] <tonyyarusso> william: ntfs perhaps?  /msg ubotu ntfs (I gotta go again...dang.)
[03:58] <stunit77> usually cp's are priced by theoretical speed in gigs and mostt secondly the FSB effects the price dramaticlly
[03:58] <adventchild> orbin: i am a die-hard gamer
[03:58] <sgt-dyke> yup orbin... the folder.... should be where
[03:58] <cafuego_> (or more)
[03:58] <reaps> definetly..
[03:58] <tooleh> :/
[03:58] <reaps> 1 gb RAM is must have..
[03:59] <IdleOne> tooleh, ask
[03:59] <reaps> my Home PC has 4 GB...1
[03:59] <tooleh> My X won't load since I installed a load of fonts.
[03:59] <tooleh> Here is the log: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11493
[03:59] <orbin> adventchild: ah, then you have an argument then :)
[03:59] <orbin> sgt-dyke: it should show up on your desktop
[03:59] <adventchild> reaps: if you are going for 1gb ram, get 2 512mb sticks
[03:59] <tooleh> no other programs loaded before I rebooted.
[03:59] <adventchild> orbin: yes i do
[03:59] <chris228> hi
[03:59] <reaps> yea that I know Advntchild..
[03:59] <sgt-dyke> nope sir... it' did not
[03:59] <orbin> tooleh: have you tried reconfigging X?
[03:59] <adventchild> reaps: lol..  alot of ppl dont tho...
[04:00] <orbin> s/X/xorg
[04:00] <Gau> That's not always possible; for example, my computer only has 1 DIMM slot
[04:00] <tooleh> orbin: I'm not sure what that is.
[04:00] <reaps> what is that called virtual memory rite..??
[04:00] <reaps> or dual
[04:00] <chris228> i have onboard and pci video, how do i make ubuntu use my pci instead of onboard?
[04:00] <tooleh> orbin: But it broke other programs.
[04:00] <Cin> The price difference between 1Gb and 2Gb says... "get 2Gb!"
[04:00] <orbin> tooleh: you don't have any errors, what happens exactly?
[04:00] <tooleh> orbin: Basically it starts loading, I see the cursor, then it dies back to the prompt (tries a few more times then gives up)
[04:00] <orbin> chris12349: there's aprobably a bios option to disable it
[04:01] <tooleh> orbin: it has a few warnings about fonts though, and that's what I think is causing it.
[04:01] <chris228> so if i disable on board in bios ubuntu ownt use it ?
[04:01] <adventchild> reaps: virtual memory is a section of your hd that old prgms in ram get put to when they are not used for a while
[04:01] <reaps> i gotta another laptop .. so im planning to run only Linux on that one..
[04:01] <reaps> no windows what so ever..
[04:01] <sgt-dyke> bah thanx anyways for the help
[04:01] <tooleh> orbin: I copied all my windows fonts to the font folder and reconfigged my fonts
[04:01] <orbin> tooleh: nope.  i and someone else have the same warnings, so it's not the issue i would think
[04:01] <abuchbinder> tritium: Do you have some free time?
[04:02] <tooleh> orbin: Okay. any ideas why it is dying then?
[04:02] <chris228> be back later
[04:02] <orbin> tooleh: are you comfortable w/ console?
[04:02] <reaps> im still kinda scared of the "terminal" lol
[04:02] <tooleh> orbin: Not amazingly, I've used it quite a bit though.
[04:02] <amphi> reaps: it's very pleasant once you get used to it
[04:02] <tooleh> orbin: I'm not aware of many of the shortcuts etc, and using IRC on it would be a mess
[04:03] <adventchild> reaps: i am a first time linux user and terminal is not that bad...  i kind of like it
[04:03] <orbin> tooleh: you just need to know how to revert to an old config file if i break things further, by doing a sudo cp.  think you can handle that?
[04:03] <orbin> s/cp/mv
[04:03] <Madpilot> When I'm doing an install that needs a /boot partition, should the bootable flag be on /boot or / ?
[04:03] <reaps> yea I really love it...but it scares me im gonna type something bad and KABOOM there is my PC
[04:03] <tooleh> orbin: I'm not quite sure, exactly what that would be. I'm using a live distro atm though - can I fix it from that?
[04:04] <amphi> Madpilot: linux doesn't care about the 'bootable' flag
[04:04] <adventchild> just make sure you only type something that you know about at first...
[04:04] <reaps> but as long as is not the root .. im good rite
[04:04] <orbin> tooleh: you're running live?
[04:04] <amphi> reaps: be careful with rm ;)
[04:04] <Madpilot> amphi, even though the partioner in Ubuntu's installer seems to?
[04:04] <tooleh> orbin: for now, so I could get my log file onto IRC :)
[04:04] <adventchild> reaps: depends...  you might have permissions set for your username....
[04:04] <tooleh> orbin: the damaged install is my hd one
[04:04] <amphi> Madpilot: I have no bootable flag set here
[04:05] <adventchild> reaps: check your permissions before messing around too much
[04:05] <reaps> yea ..I gotta read more on it..
[04:05] <Madpilot> reaps, w/o root privs (sudo) all you can do is delete your own stuff
[04:05] <abuchbinder> Can anyone else help me compile a single file into a kernel module without compiling the entire linux kernel?
[04:05] <Madpilot> reaps, which won't affect the system, but might affect you :P
[04:05] <sgt-dyke> orbin it's not working.... is there a way to mount it manually
[04:05] <amphi> Madpilot: it's a dos thing AFAIK
[04:05] <reaps> nice...that is nice to hear..MAdpilot
[04:05] <tooleh> orbin: So are we going to try this?
[04:06] <Madpilot> amphi, OK, thanks - my own install has never needed a /boot part. at all, so I'm entering new and uncharted territory :P
[04:06] <amphi> reaps: you could always add a 'clumsy' user for blundering ;)
[04:06] <orbin> tooleh: yep, you need to run this: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:06] <reaps> how amphi.??
[04:07] <tooleh> orbin: But I have to do that from the console on my actual install, right?
[04:07] <orbin> tooleh: go throught the tool and it will overwrite /etc/X11/xorg.conf, making a backup in the process as xorg.conf.<timestamp> (or something like that)
[04:07] <orbin> tooleh: yes
[04:07] <adventchild> i have a cd that is for window$ that i need to run...  any ideas? (practice tests for my class)
[04:07] <orbin> tooleh: either boot into recovery mode, or wait for normal boot to dump you
[04:07] <tooleh> orbin: okay, I will go and do this now
[04:07] <NickGarvey> how would I change /home to be from /hdc1 to /hda1?
[04:08] <orbin> sgt-dyke: yep, you need to know where the device is though
[04:08] <tooleh> orbin: I'll be back in a minute, hopefully on my proper distro :)
[04:09] <sgt-dyke> bah.... damn it....     thanx orbin.... i'm gonna do that later....
[04:09] <chris228> hi, im having issues getting my screen resolution to 1024 x XXX, anyone know where i can get some help?
[04:09] <cornfed> How do I get around this problem:   python2.4-dev: Depends: python2.4 (= 2.4.2-1) but 2.4.3-1 is to be installed
[04:09] <bill_wad> ubuntu under colinux - anyone done it?
[04:09] <orbin> chris12349: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:10] <_jason> cornfed: what causes that and have you been using any unofficial repositories?
[04:10] <chris228> thank you orbin
[04:10] <adventchild> i have a cd that is for window$ that i need to run under linux... (no more M$ on this comp) any ideas? (practice tests for my class)
[04:10] <amphi> Madpilot:why do you want a separate /boot partition ?
[04:10] <cornfed> jason:  I had debian repositories added in (don't remember why though)
[04:10] <_jason> adventchild: wine maybe, take a look at the contents and see how the tests are stored
[04:10] <orbin> adventchild: what are they? .exes?
[04:11] <adventchild> orbin: yes
[04:11] <adventchild> _jason: ill check that out ty
[04:11] <nick|work> install dapper from install cd or dist-upgrade from breezy?
[04:11] <chris228> how do i get the universe repository ? i need it for the 855resolution
[04:11] <_jason> adventchild: what version of python2.4 is installed now?
[04:11] <adventchild> _jason: 2.4.2
[04:11] <_jason> cornfed: what version of python2.4 is installed now?
[04:11] <nick|work> is there a difference between them?
[04:12] <orbin> ubotu: tell chris12349 about repos
[04:12] <adventchild> bbiam
[04:12] <cornfed> jason:  python version 2.4.3
[04:12] <_jason> cornfed: that's your problem, in ubuntu's repositories it's 2.4.2-1
[04:12] <orbin> chris12349: ubotu sent you a pm
[04:13] <chris228> not me
[04:13] <cornfed> _jason:  Is it possible to downgrade that?
[04:13] <wladston> Guys ... I want to understand something .... why isn't the universe and multiverse installed by default ??
[04:13] <chris228> true
[04:13] <orbin> whoops
[04:13] <chris228> yeah :)
[04:13] <orbin> chris228: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[04:13] <_jason> cornfed: only way I know is to remove it and install from ubuntu's repos but if you had debian repositories on there and upgraded stuff you may have done more damage
[04:13] <chris228> thanks again orbin
[04:13] <NickGarvey> wladston: because ubuntu doesn't supply support that if you buy support, and they are not entirely open source
[04:13] <wladston> hum ....
[04:13] <tristanmike> wladston: because they contain software that is not absolutely open source
[04:14] <nick|work> installing dapper from install cd or dist-upgrade from breezy??
[04:14] <orbin> chris228: no worries
[04:14] <bigmanalpha> Hey guys! Does anybody have the game Chromium installed?
[04:14] <wladston> sure ... but ... Why don't you guys at least make it clear on the "Add Applications" ?
[04:14] <_jason> nick|work: that's not really a question
[04:14] <NickGarvey> !easyubuntu
[04:14] <ubotu> easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu
[04:14] <cornfed> _jason: Doh!  I didn't even try removing it.   Did that once on Gentoo and horked the whole deal.  Thanks jason
[04:15] <nick|work> _jason: i want to know which one is better?
[04:15] <wladston> so people can know they have some missing packs ..
[04:15] <_jason> cornfed: well I don't know if it's a good idea.  A lot of stuff probably depends on it
[04:15] <NickGarvey> eh I am not in a position to speak for the ubuntu developers heh
[04:15] <tristanmike> wladston: they start to get into legal waters, waters they would just as soon avoid
[04:16] <_jason> nick|work: if you dist-upgrade you get what current dapper looks like, if you use the cd you get a flight release and will then probably end up updating to what dapper is now.  people in #ubuntu+1 will probably no more than I do
[04:16] <_jason> s/no/know
[04:16] <wladston> I wanted to install gmail-notify and took a long time to figure out how to do it via apt-get . Like me, there are lots of users that don't know what do do after searching a packet and not finding it ...
[04:16] <wladston> Maybe not include by default, but a warning there should be useful ...
[04:16] <_jason> wladston: did you try finding it in synaptic?
[04:16] <NickGarvey> its all over google
[04:16] <nick|work> _jason: thanks
[04:17] <wladston> yeah  - all time "nothing found"
[04:17] <wladston> but now I installed via apt-get
[04:17] <_jason> wladston: if you found it in apt-get, it should be in synaptic
[04:17] <wladston> after enabling the repositories...
[04:17] <chris228> wow thanks orbin, i think i did it right
[04:17] <chris228> its downloading stuff
[04:17] <wladston> strange them ... O.o
[04:17] <orbin> wladston: well, there _is_ a section in sys>help>starter guide
[04:18] <orbin> chris228: goodo
[04:18] <wladston> ok .. wait a bit Orbin ...
[04:18] <iceman> where the heck do you put "theme steeing in kde?
[04:18] <iceman> theme settings
[04:18] <orbin> wladston: maybe they should show that on first bootup
[04:19] <orbin> wladston: you're right though.  i can see how new users could get a little lost
[04:19] <orbin> iceman: steeing?
[04:19] <orbin> ah, whoopes. nvm
[04:20] <wladston> Orbin : yeah, it's there ...
[04:20] <iceman> lolo
[04:20] <chris____> does DBO have another nickname?
[04:20] <orbin> iceman: there's always #kubuntu and #kde
[04:20] <user13> i want
[04:20] <user13> haave alot of firiend
[04:20] <user13> alot of friend
[04:20] <dbarnett> sorry to bug, can anyone help me get xorg-driver-fglrx uninstalled? getting a diversion error I'm not sure how to resolve
[04:20] <iceman> can not find where to install .. i tried kubuntu and go no where
[04:21] <adventchild> orbin: yes, the files on the disk are .exe's
[04:21] <wladston> Orbin : Even though, I think that a warning at the first open or when not finding a package at "search" using the "Add packages" would be useful to newcomers ...
[04:21] <chris____> can someone help me out making a public IP?
[04:21] <orbin> adventchild: what jason said.  wine is probably the best bet
[04:21] <wladston> Orbin : you agree ?
[04:21] <adventchild> sudo apt-get install wine?
[04:21] <orbin> wladston: absolutely
[04:22] <orbin> wladston: we're geeks though.  we're not meant to think about usability :P
[04:22] <wladston> Orbin : Great ! :) So, how can we put this on hands of developers, to add on the next release ?
[04:22] <eth0-noob> does anyone know how to change the port that bittorrent uses???
[04:22] <adventchild> _jason:  would the cmd to get wine be 'sudo apt-get install wine'?
[04:22] <eth0-noob> yes
[04:22] <IdleOne> adventchild, yes
[04:22] <_jason> adventchild: yes, that would be one way
[04:23] <adventchild> ok...  ty all
[04:23] <iceman> damit how to install themes in kde
[04:23] <orbin> wladston: i think there's a dev channel.  in any case, try the forum or mailing list
[04:23] <tritium> iceman: take it easy
[04:23] <wladston> I'm a newcomer to linux ... I'm impressed on how things got more user-friendly in Ubuntu!
[04:23] <adventchild> whats the diff b/t apt-get and aptitude?
[04:23] <IdleOne> iceman, ask in #kubuntu *enter curse word here*
[04:23] <wladston> A dev channel ? maybe #ubuntu-dev ?
[04:24] <bigmanalpha> Hey guys, if anybody has the game Chromium, can you help me install it?
[04:24] <orbin> wladston: possibly.  i never had the need to bug them
[04:24] <tritium> wladston: file a bug report in malone.  the dev channel is for developer coordination
[04:24] <adventchild> !games
[04:24] <ubotu> from memory, games is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5153 or http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Loki_Installers_for_Linux_Gamers  News http://www.linux-gamers.net/
[04:24] <orbin> wladston: it's not #ubuntu-dev
[04:24] <wladston> tritium : googling for "malone" ...
[04:25] <orbin> _jason: is there a dev channel?  or a place where people can make suggestions?
[04:25] <IdleOne> bigmanalpha, sudo apt-get install chromium
[04:25] <chris228> hey now that 855 is installed , how do i select its mode ?
[04:25] <orbin> ah, nvm tritium answered it :)
[04:25] <orbin> chris228: wiki not helping?
[04:26] <orbin> adventchild: different apt tools
[04:26] <bigmanalpha> IdleOne...how do I find addresses like that? I always try to manually download the zips and stuff. How do i know if theres an apt-get for something?
[04:26] <adventchild> how do you go about disableing the 'root' acct? and thanks orbin
[04:26] <tritium> bigmanalpha: apt-cache search <search-term> is always useful, as is a synaptic search.
[04:26] <orbin> bigmanalpha: sys>admin>synaptic .. then use the search feature
[04:27] <tritium> adventchild: the root account is disabled by default
[04:27] <adventchild> tritium: i think i enabled it
[04:27] <adventchild> oops
[04:27] <chris228> anyone got 2 cents on how to set your video mode with 855resolution ?
[04:27] <orbin> heh, tritium is beating me to everything i'm about to say.  i'm gonna lurk for a while
[04:28] <tritium> adventchild: passwd -l can be used to lock a password
[04:28] <chris228> he hasnt beat you to my question yet :)
[04:28] <tritium> orbin: sorry ;)
[04:28] <orbin> chris228: the wiki tells you how
[04:28] <tritium> chris228: what's your question?
[04:28] <orbin> tritium: don't be :)
[04:28] <adventchild> so sudo root passwd -l?
[04:28] <bigmanalpha> thanks for the help!
[04:28] <tritium> adventchild: not quite.  sudo passwd root -l
[04:28] <tooleh> woooo
[04:29] <tooleh> !!!
[04:29] <ubotu> tooleh: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:29] <adventchild> almost
[04:29] <adventchild> lol
[04:29] <tooleh> I did it by rm *.fon
[04:29] <chris228> the wiki only told me how to get the pcackage in
[04:29] <tooleh> :D
[04:29] <tooleh> huzzah
[04:29] <tritium> adventchild: or sudo passwd -l root
[04:29] <chris228> and the recolution fix link doesnt tell you how to get the mode running
[04:29] <adventchild> tritium: ty
[04:30] <adventchild> tritium:  now how would you enable a logging file to check if someone is trying to hack your box?
[04:30] <gamma> any idea if using compiz would drain the battery faster on a laptop?
[04:30] <CodyDH> Are there any good guides to setting Ubuntu up as a mail server (SMTP and IMAP)?
[04:30] <wladston> tritium, orbit : here ! https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+filebug
[04:30] <tritium> adventchild: there are various security packages you can install such as tripwire, etc.
[04:30] <wladston> where to report a bug, I'm going to fill it.
[04:30] <cin> What's the settings file to change what window manager starts when you startx? I'm used to .xinitrc on BSD. >.>
[04:30] <adventchild> tritium: ty again
[04:31] <chris228> nvm
[04:31] <tristanmike> wladston: launchpad.net
[04:31] <orbin> chris228: found it?
[04:31] <tritium> adventchild: apt-cache search intrusion
[04:31] <adventchild> kk
[04:31] <a_temp_dist> just started with linix, have the breezy live cd running now, where do i find a terminal window?
[04:31] <tritium> adventchild: ll mm nn oo
[04:32] <adventchild> :-( making fun of me huh? ;-)
[04:32] <tritium> adventchild: :)
[04:32] <orbin> a_temp_dist: apps->accessories
[04:32] <adventchild> tritium: its all good...  (in da hood)
[04:32] <cin> >.>
[04:32] <chenjf> a_temp_dist: applications->accessories->termnal
[04:32] <cin> <.<
[04:32] <a_temp_dist> thx
[04:33] <wastrel> trying to download my digital camera pictures - what program should i use?
[04:33] <cin> Chaps?
[04:33] <dbarnett> can anyone please help me resolve an apt dependency issue? I can't install my new graphics driver until I install my old, but I can't uninstall my old because one of it's deps is missing and I can't find a package for it anywhere
[04:33] <chenjf> wastrel: it should automaticlly download once you plugin you cam
[04:33] <wastrel> chenjf:  it doesn't
[04:34] <chenjf> wastrel: ok,try gthumb
[04:34] <orbin> dbarnett: pastebin the errors you're getting
[04:34] <tritium> dbarnett: uninstalling doesn't require that dependencies be met
[04:34] <adventchild> tritium: in tripwire, the mail config is to mail yourself the logon attemps i take it?
[04:34] <michel> how do i get music player to play mp3s
[04:34] <tritium> adventchild: don't know...I've not used it
[04:34] <adventchild> !tell michel about xine
[04:34] <wastrel> chenjf:  gthumb works thx
[04:34] <adventchild> !tell michel about mp3
[04:34] <bimberi> !tell michel about mp3
[04:34] <gamma> !mp3
[04:34] <ubotu> somebody said mp3 was a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:35] <tooleh> orbin: thanks for your time btw :)
[04:35] <michel> thank you
[04:35] <orbin> tooleh: no worries
[04:35] <adventchild> np
[04:35] <orbin> tooleh: did it fix it?
[04:36] <wastrel> mmm first digicam pxi
[04:36] <wastrel> pix, even
[04:37] <cafuego_> wastrel: f-spot is a really nice picture app.
[04:38] <wastrel> i'm just getting started taking pictures.
[04:38] <dbarnett> orbin, tritium: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11494
[04:39] <wladston> guys, here is the bug # : #38112
[04:39] <wastrel> f-spot is throwing errors trying to download
[04:40] <tritium> dbarnett: you've tried installing both nvidia _and_ ati drivers?
[04:40] <dbarnett> I just switched cards
[04:40] <dbarnett> just installed an nvidia card since I've never been able to get accel working with my ati
[04:42] <arrick> hi guys
[04:42] <CodyDH> Are there any good guides to setting Ubuntu up as a mail server (SMTP and IMAP)?
[04:42] <chris____> arrick!?
[04:42] <adventchild> !smtp
[04:42] <ubotu> adventchild: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:42] <orbin> dbarnett: have you tried removing the fglrx drivers beforehand?
[04:42] <adventchild> hm
[04:42] <arrick> how do I start putty after it is installed, ran for the first time and closed, there is no icon anywhere for it?
[04:42] <carthik> Does anyone use streamtuner?
[04:42] <arrick> chris____, good evening
[04:42] <dbarnett> orbin: yes, I can't remove them
[04:42] <dbarnett> orbin: same error
[04:42] <arrick> morning orbin
[04:42] <chris____> arrick we need to finsh our project
[04:42] <wastrel> CodyDH:  if you find one, let me know
[04:42] <arrick> hahah
[04:43] <arrick> cant remember what it was chris____
[04:43] <arrick> whats up
[04:43] <wastrel> CodyDH:  there's a few posts in the forums, nothing really standout imho
[04:43] <orbin> arrick: afternoon
[04:43] <tritium> Nebular: having connection problems/
[04:43] <tritium> ?
[04:43] <chris____> arrick, public IP
[04:43] <CodyDH> wastrel: OK... I've never done it before, and I'm trying to figure out how.
[04:43] <wastrel> arrick:  did you install putty or puttyssh or something?
[04:43] <arrick> huh?
[04:43] <CodyDH> wastrel: There's a good one for Debian, but ATM I have FC5 installed on the 'box
[04:43] <orbin> dbarnett: how did you install the driver?
[04:44] <dbarnett> orbin: apparently very sloppily
[04:44] <wastrel> er s/puttyssh/puttyscp
[04:44] <arrick> I installed the putty ssh-telnet itself
[04:44] <cin> Hey, is KDE faster than GNOME?
[04:44] <dbarnett> orbin: I really don't remember. I had a lot of problems and installed and uninstalled several times, clearly I munged something up
[04:44] <arrick> chris____, you gotta refresh my webs man, I dont remember
[04:44] <cin> 'Cause I know XFCE is waaay faster. But it lacks some features that I know both KDE and GNOME provide.
[04:44] <arrick> wastrel, ^^
[04:44] <orbin> dbarnett: did you use the wiki page at all?
[04:45] <chris____> arrick i was the guy with a 2wire 1000hw and we were gunna make my IP public this was 2 ddays ago?
[04:45] <chris____> maybe 1?
[04:45] <arrick> oh yeah
[04:45] <dbarnett> orbin: there are a few different pages with different directions I tried them all
[04:45] <healot> cin, it's rather personal... and hardware requirements are fairly different from each desktop
[04:45] <chris____> arrick remember me?
[04:45] <arrick> I fogged out for a bit chris____ been a long 80 hours now working on this **)((server
[04:45] <arrick> yeah
[04:45] <orbin> dbarnett: recognise this one at all: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ?
[04:45] <cin> healot, what about from your experience?
[04:46] <dbarnett> orbin: yes
[04:46] <healot> XFce is a minimalist, while KDE/GNOME are fully loaded
[04:46] <arrick> chris____, we were working on port forwarding right?
[04:46] <chris____> correct arrick
[04:46] <wastrel> arrick:  putty should Just Work.  double-click for happy goodness.
[04:46] <arrick> wastrel, I have nowhere to double click, dont know how to restart it
[04:46] <healot> cin, since my hardware are lovely piece, ALL of them give no problem to me :)
[04:47] <cin> healot, I suppose I'll just give KDE a shot. GNOME is fine, it's just that XFCE is sodding fast.
[04:47] <Aaronfromchina> Hi everyone. I just install a tor, but can't get it start.
[04:47] <dbarnett> orbin: I found this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=146014&highlight=xorg-driver-fglrx+uninstall I'm hesitant to try step for in dinxter's post but I might have to
[04:47] <cin> You can see it in the way stuff refreshes.
[04:47] <healot> i prefer KDE though... especially its Control Panel
[04:47] <deibis> alguien sabe como instalar detras de un proxy?
[04:47] <tritium> !es
[04:47] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:47] <cin> When you focus one window from another.
[04:47] <wastrel> arrick:  double-click the program file, where'd you install it to?
[04:47] <Aaronfromchina> I type tor, and it says. Apr 05 10:47:15.015 [notice]  Tor v0.1.0.15. This is experimental software. Do not rely on it for strong anonymity.
[04:47] <Aaronfromchina> Apr 05 10:47:15.016 [warn]  /var/lib/tor is not owned by this UID (1000). You must fix this to proceed.
[04:47] <Aaronfromchina> Apr 05 10:47:15.016 [err]  options_act(): Couldn't access/create private data directory /var/lib/tor
[04:47] <Aaronfromchina> Apr 05 10:47:15.016 [err]  init_from_config(): Acting on config options left us in a broken state. Dying.
[04:47] <arrick> dont know default I wil lfind it though
[04:47] <tritium> Aaronfromchina: stop pasting
[04:47] <Aaronfromchina> tritium, sorry.
[04:47] <healot> cin, XFce is meant for fast loading, but it is minimal in usage -)
[04:47] <chris____> arrick take your time, just let me know when your ready :)
[04:48] <arrick> ok
[04:48] <wladston> thanks guys .. The issue is fowarded. Whenever I notice something else I'll come back!
[04:48] <wladston> see ya!
[04:48] <healot> yo!
[04:48] <healot> !paste
[04:48] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[04:48] <healot> Aaronfromchina, by the way why you need "onion router" in the first place?
[04:48] <cin> healot, yeah, the only thing I need is desktop icons. And I wouldn't mind that groovy Dictionary desklet thing that GNOME has.
[04:48] <adventchild> how do you display the job id's for using the kill cmd?
[04:48] <orbin> dbarnett: have you tried the reintall method?
[04:48] <Aaronfromchina> wastrel, don't knwo where it is installed , I install it using snpatics ... manager.
[04:48] <dbarnett> orbin: on the fglrx driver? yes
[04:49] <healot> Aaronfromchina, there is a setuid switch for running Tor, just "man tor"...
[04:49] <dbarnett> orbin: can't reinstall because it's missing the mesa driver which I can't find anywhere
[04:49] <Aaronfromchina> healot, well, I tried to install tor for windows, it's quite straightforward, so I thought it should be easy on linux. :)
[04:49] <Aaronfromchina> healot, I'll have look. :) thanks.
[04:49] <healot> cin, GNOME is a good desktop for Python programming, ease up the binding :)
[04:50] <tritium> Aaronfromchina: you've not updated/upgraded.  I fixed that bug in tor myself and uploaded it to the repos.
[04:50] <healot> Aaronfromchina, you can dl the official onion router from Tor's site, which is preferable
[04:50] <orbin> dbarnett: i'm not too sure, sorry.
[04:50] <arrick> thanks wastrel
[04:50] <dbarnett> orbin: ok, thanks
[04:50] <tritium> healot: not preferable over official ubuntu packages
[04:50] <orbin> dbarnett: good luck
[04:50] <tooleh> Can you install debian packages in ubuntu (and how?)
[04:50] <chris____> arrick what channel were we in before?
[04:51] <dbarnett> orbin: I think I'll try editing the postrm and hope for the best! Thanks for your time
[04:51] <dbarnett> healot: why do you say gnome is good for python?
[04:51] <arrick> chris____, #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:51] <dbarnett> I love python, just curious
[04:51] <chris____> thanks arrick
[04:51] <Aaronfromchina> tritium, healot. OK. it's bug. see, I'll try again. Cheers, guys :)
[04:51] <healot> "[sudo]  dpkg -i  <package>", tooleh
[04:51] <arrick> but we can go to a different one tonight
[04:51] <tooleh> healot cheers
[04:51] <orbin> tooleh: depends e.g. w32codecs works for ubuntu.  but for the most part, ou should try and stick to the packages in the official repos
[04:51] <chris____> arrick ok :)
[04:51] <healot> dbarnett, the binding... it comes with ubuntu repos...
[04:52] <arrick> chris____, type /join #network
[04:52] <tooleh> orbin: the package in question is ubuntulooks :)
[04:52] <wastrel> ok i have to learn imagemagick now.
[04:52] <jadaz87> hello can anyone tell me the terminal command for the gnome file manager?
[04:52] <wastrel> jadams:  nautilus
[04:52] <bimberi> jadaz87: nautilus
[04:53] <wastrel> mmm tab complete fails me again.
[04:53] <healot> "nautilus"
[04:53] <tooleh> It says there were dependency problems
[04:54] <wastrel> hmm i found an error in a man page.
[04:54] <healot> Aaronfromchina, my work around is kinda simple, chown Tor's files to "admin" group... then "sudo tor"
[04:54] <Siph0n> anyone know what, "make: *** No rule to make target" means?
[04:54] <orbin> tooleh: what's ublooks?
[04:54] <healot> tooleh, expanded your repos yet?
[04:54] <jadaz87> did you do    ./config  ?
[04:54] <tritium> Aaronfromchina: are you running breezy or dapper?
[04:54] <tooleh> orbin: Apparently I need it for some gnome theme :S
[04:55] <tooleh> healot: I don't think so :S
[04:55] <healot> Breezy man pages are mostly OLD :)
[04:55] <arrick> hey IdleOne whats the command to pull soeones ip again?
[04:55] <Aaronfromchina> tritium, breey.
[04:55] <Siph0n> jadaz87, was that towards me?
[04:55] <tritium> healot: sudo invoke-rc.d tor restart
[04:55] <tooleh> And what do I do to get the w32codecs?
[04:55] <tristanmike> !w32codecs
[04:55] <ubotu> w32codecs is probably a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[04:55] <tooleh> thanks
[04:56] <arrick> IdleOne, ruhere?
[04:56] <healot> really... one of the is the grep... some one even reported bug, well it turned out it was the man pages of "grep"
[04:56] <Suture> How do I reconfigure my X when I get a new graphics card
[04:56] <wastrel> Siph0n:  it means the makefile doesn't know the keyword you used.  what was the command?
[04:56] <tritium> Suture: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:56] <healot> tritium, i know... just to find out if changing the group works...
[04:56] <Suture> ty
[04:56] <tritium> healot: ok
[04:57] <arrick> who knows how to pull up the ip of someone through the channel?
[04:57] <healot> because running it's rc script might have a different permission...
[04:57] <Siph0n> wastrel, i msged u it, so i dont get off topic
[04:58] <liable> arrick: why?
[04:58] <wastrel> Siph0n:  that's the error - what command did you use
[04:58] <tooleh> Error: E: Couldn't find package totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin
[04:58] <healot> arrick, /whois ?
[04:58] <tooleh> why do I get that?
[04:58] <Siph0n> wastrel, sudo make
[04:58] <wastrel> Siph0n:  did you ./configure first?
[04:58] <orbin> tooleh: 'cos it ain't a valid package name
[04:58] <Siph0n> wastrel, no
[04:58] <tooleh> orbin: it's written on the ubuntu site?
[04:58] <arrick> I have to check and see if someone is on the same ip as two days ago
[04:58] <adventchild> what is the easiest doc format to read in linux?
[04:58] <wastrel> Siph0n:  look for a README or INSTALL file - that should contain instructions.  usually ./configure is required to generate a makefile.
[04:58] <arrick> and hes really a newbie
[04:59] <orbin> tooleh: url?
[04:59] <tristanmike> Siph0n: don't use "sudo" when you do make
[04:59] <wastrel> that too
[04:59] <engla> I need a command to type a key? How do I make a command that sends "F9" to the front window?
[04:59] <orbin> adventchild: plain text? :P
[04:59] <Siph0n> tristanmike, i get permission denied when i dont
[04:59] <adventchild> orbin: lol...  ty...  thought there was a specific format for linux...
[04:59] <tristanmike> Siph0n: where are you making the file ?
[05:00] <tyler> where or what can i go to tag all my mp3's with info.. like album/song name/artiste which will appear on the lcd of my mp3 player?
[05:00] <todd> hey question how do i install kde so when i login i can either login to kde or gnome?
[05:00] <Siph0n> in a sub directory of my home directory
[05:00] <orbin> adventchild: nope. we don't discriminate :)
[05:00] <tristanmike> todd: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[05:00] <adventchild> orbin: im glad...
[05:00] <todd> its d-loading the files now i got it from the packet manager
[05:00] <tristanmike> Siph0n: there should be no reason you get a permission denied for a make in your home folder
[05:00] <todd> kubuntu desktop?
[05:01] <arrick> I vote sudo aptitude install anything
[05:01] <tristanmike> todd: "kubuntu-desktop"
[05:01] <tristanmike> todd: with the dash -
[05:01] <adventchild> orbin: this is by far the most friendly place i have seen...  in other os's people will iggy you for being new to the os... :-(
[05:01] <BlueHeron> adventchild: iggy ?
[05:01] <arrick> hey tristanmike i was wondering which came out first, apt-get, or aptitude?
[05:01] <tritium> arrick: apt-get
[05:02] <adventchild> BlueHeron: ignore
[05:02] <tristanmike> arrick: what he said :P
[05:02] <tritium> aptitude improved upon it
[05:02] <BlueHeron> adventchild: i see
[05:02] <todd> yea its loading now, so when it finishes downloading i will be abel to login into either?
[05:02] <orbin> adventchild: that's good to hear
[05:02] <BlueHeron> i think apt-get is the bst
[05:02] <arrick> I was wondering, I love aptitude now that I made the mistake of installing without it and now I know why people swear by sptitude
[05:02] <tooleh> orbin: the url is http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s
[05:02] <tristanmike> yes, it will ask you whether you want to use GDM or KDM, basically, GDM is the gnome login, and KDM is the KDE login
[05:02] <arrick> aptitude
[05:03] <todd> great thanks alot man
[05:03] <orbin> arrick: i never got the hag of it
[05:03] <orbin> hang even :)
[05:03] <wsjunior> does anybody know a program to make a video of the desktop (beyond xvidcap)?
[05:03] <tristanmike> Siph0n: what are you compiling ?
[05:04] <adventchild> orbin: so how do i use wine to open the disk?
[05:04] <orbin> tooleh: i don't see any reference to "totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin"
[05:04] <orbin> whopose, yes i do
[05:04] <orbin> tooleh: that's for dapper.  are you ruing dapper?
[05:04] <arrick> ok, ive got me a private room, please DO NOT DISTURB hehe
[05:05] <orbin> s/ruing/running
[05:05] <arrick> just jokin
[05:05] <tooleh> orbin: No. What should I do to get firefox media player for Breezy?
[05:05] <tristanmike> tooleh: "sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer"
[05:05] <orbin> tooleh: mozilla-mplayer, as the wiki says
[05:06] <adventchild> i have installed wine, now i need to use it to open the files on this cdrom...  how do i go about doing that?
[05:06] <tooleh> tristanmike, orbin: thanks :)
[05:06] <Siph0n> tristanmike, trying to add the helicopter part to the buildroot, and then put it on my gumstix
[05:06] <Siph0n> tristanmike, http://perso.wanadoo.fr/pascal.brisset/chromicro/doc/chromicro.html the software is from there
[05:07] <tristanmike> Siph0n: ....your using make to do this ?
[05:07] <tooleh> E: Couldn't find package mozilla-mplayer
[05:07] <tooleh>  :/
[05:07] <tristanmike> !universe
[05:07] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[05:07] <adventchild> think i got it
[05:07] <orbin> tooleh: you need to enable multiverse, as the wiki says :)
[05:07] <adventchild> nvm
[05:08] <Siph0n> tristanmike, yup.. thats what it says to use
[05:08] <adventchild> YEY! it worked...
[05:08] <Siph0n> tristanmike, i had it almost working, well more than i have it now, and i changed something, and tryed to go back
[05:08] <Siph0n> and it doesnt work
[05:08] <tooleh> Gotcha, I forgot to enable the backports *blush*
[05:08] <orbin> tooleh: did you get your X issue fixed?
[05:08] <tooleh> orbin: Yup, by deleting all .fon fonts
[05:09] <orbin> not backports! just multiverse
[05:09] <adventchild> ...  keeps giving me an External exception 80000101 error
[05:09] <tooleh> orbin: it isn't seeing the TTFs though, should I do that?
[05:09] <tristanmike> Siph0n: that's freakin amazing, I'll probably be of no help to you, but I'll have my fingers crossed for that one, that's wicked
[05:09] <orbin> tooleh: so the freconfig didn't work?
[05:09] <tooleh> orbin: No, but removing .fon files did
[05:09] <orbin> tooleh: oh, ok
[05:09] <tooleh> orbin: what is wrong with backports?
[05:09] <tristanmike> Siph0n: you could try "make clean"
[05:10] <orbin> tooleh: i could be wrong, but they're kind of risky
[05:10] <tooleh> orbin: Eek. But it wouldnt find anything if I didn't have them enabled.
[05:10] <Siph0n> tristanmike, does make defconfig do like the same thing as configure?
[05:10] <walden> Hi. I get the following error when I start ubuntu.. it starts and works alright, but would like to know what this is about :[4295233.595000]  hdb: error code: 0x70  sense_key: 0x02  asc: 0x30  ascq: 0x00"
[05:10] <orbin> tooleh: backports is not multiverse/universe
[05:10] <tristanmike> Siph0n: not familiar with that command
[05:10] <adventchild> _jason: i am trying to use wine to install and run this cd, but it gives me an error when it trys to inst... am i doing something wrond?
[05:10] <adventchild> *wrong
[05:10] <saif> when trying to join a wireless point, the admin gave me passphrase, which should generate the 128 hex key, is there anyway to enter the passphrase and tell my system to use the first key generated?? or do i have to enter the key manually?
[05:11] <wastrel> any good programs for making pictures look better?  this one is a bit gray i'd like to brighten it up a little.
[05:11] <Siph0n> k, cause i see it says to do that first, then make... but then for the instructions to add a piece to the buildroot it says to just type make
[05:11] <walden> wastrel: gimp
[05:11] <orbin> tooleh: http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[05:11] <adventchild> and now the program wont close.....
[05:11] <wastrel> walden:  gimp's nice and all but the UI is a bit challenging
[05:11] <Siph0n> tristanmike,  lol may have worked...
[05:12] <orbin> walden: hdb, HDD issues maybe?
[05:12] <orbin> wastrel: there's gimpshop
[05:12] <healot> GIMP.... wastrel
[05:12] <tristanmike> Siph0n: what, "make clean" or defconfigure ?
[05:12] <wastrel> orbin:  never used photoshop
[05:12] <walden> wastrel: hehe, ok.
[05:13] <zerokarmaleft> wastrel: f-spot has *very basic* phototouching
[05:13] <walden> orbin: well, i have one hard disk on the laptop.. hda which is 100G and a CD/DVD writer. which also seems to work fine when i burn...
[05:13] <saif> wastrel, challneing is fun1 :)
[05:13] <orbin> wastrel: i'm sure there's a few image viewers tha can do simple manip.
[05:13] <zerokarmaleft> wastrel: or you can flex command line muscle with imagemagick :)
[05:13] <Siph0n> defconfig
[05:14] <Siph0n> tristanmike, u know how to see whats in a jffs2 image file? cause thats what it makes and what im suppose to put on the gumstix
[05:14] <adventchild> i am trying to use wine to install and run this cd, but it gives me an error when it trys to install... am i doing something wrong?
[05:14] <Siph0n> so i can see if the helicopter part is on it :)
[05:14] <orbin> walden: not sure really, just a stab
[05:14] <orbin> any, g'luck
[05:14] <orbin> s/any/anyway
[05:15] <tristanmike> Siph0n: you are way outta my league, sorry :(
[05:15] <xDaSx> anyone feeling helpful
[05:15] <xDaSx> ??
[05:15] <mindmime> whats a good serial/terminal program for ubuntu? like terraterm.
[05:15] <Siph0n> tristanmike, actually i am really new, so im just way over my head lol
[05:15] <IdleOne> xDaSx, ask away
[05:15] <adventchild> !patience
[05:15] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Please be aware there are a lot of questions, but only maybe few who might know the answer for you. Please be patient. Your attitude may determine their willingness to help you.
[05:15] <tristanmike> Siph0n: that's the best way ;-)
[05:15] <mindmime> to connect to routers/switchs console etc. :)
[05:16] <tooleh> orbin: Now I cannot install mplayer, due to the libfaad2-0 and some other dependencies being unavailable :S
[05:16] <xDaSx> I am absolutely brand new to ubuntu, as in today
[05:16] <tristanmike> tooleh: post your sources.list on pastebin
[05:16] <IdleOne> xDaSx, welcome
[05:16] <adventchild> xDaSx: so am i...  whats the problem?
[05:16] <tristanmike> !tell tooleh about pastebin
[05:16] <xDaSx> I'm trying to get a wireless card workin
[05:16] <IdleOne> !wireless
[05:16] <ubotu> wireless is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers
[05:16] <akcom>  Is there anyway to recursively grep all the files in a directory/subdirectories?
[05:16] <tooleh> tristranmike: How do I make a sources.list
[05:17] <IdleOne> !easysource
[05:17] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[05:17] <arrick> how do you gain op status on a channel?
[05:17] <mindmime> !sources
[05:17] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[05:17] <tristanmike> tooleh: "gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" and paste that
[05:17] <walden> hey Dr_Willis .. can you tell me what this error is about?[4295233.595000]  hdb: error code: 0x70  sense_key: 0x02  asc: 0x30  ascq: 0x00.. appears in my dmesg.. and also when i start up.
[05:17] <adventchild> !channelop
[05:17] <IdleOne> arrick, join #arricks-place
[05:17] <ubotu> adventchild: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:17] <adventchild> lol
[05:17] <rlaager> The Intel 3945 chipset seems to be missing from that wireless list. I was going to ask about the ipw3945 driver and NetworkManager: Anyone know how to get that working?
[05:17] <a_temp_dist> is there a bash CVS client on the breezy liveCD?
[05:17] <a_temp_dist> and how to install it?
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> walden,  could be some "SMART" drive change/monitoring issue.. google for that   'error code: 0x70 ' message
[05:18] <walden> Dr_Willis: okie.
[05:18] <cello_rasp> will compiz/xgl be ready for dapper?
[05:19] <zerokarmaleft> akcom: find [directory]  -exec `grep [expression] `
[05:19] <e4rlgrey> ok... i was on here yesterday and you guys were a lot of help... now i'm hoping you can help me out again
[05:19] <walden> Dr_Willis: ah. cd drive errors.. but it works fine while reading/writing. so i best ignore.
[05:19] <arrick> ok
[05:19] <arrick> thanks
[05:19] <Dr_Willis> walden,  theres a cd in the drive? :P
[05:19] <wastrel> akcom:  grep -R  ?
[05:19] <lwizardl> hi'
[05:19] <akcom> thank you
[05:20] <walden> Dr_Willis: heck no :) there's posts on the kernel mailing list, but i have no clue what they are talking about :D
[05:20] <zerokarmaleft> akcom: and you can use -name if you're looking through specific type of source files
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> cello_rasp,  - i doubt it will be xgl 100% ready for prime time for a few more months.  :) its a work in progress.. it works ok for many people now. not at all  for many others.
[05:20] <e4rlgrey> i installed ubuntu and everything worked out great... however... my second drive... which i use for storage... says that it's access path is /root... the owner is root... and I can't delete or change anything on it... how can i fix this?
[05:20] <arrick> hey IdleOne how did someone else get opstatus?
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> e4rlgrey,  you told the isntaller to mount it as /root ?
[05:21] <healot> novell's evil genuis XGL
[05:21] <e4rlgrey> no
[05:21] <IdleOne> arrick, join #arricks-place
[05:21] <e4rlgrey> i didn't
[05:21] <arrick> I already did?
[05:21] <Dr_Willis> e4rlgrey,  somthing must have..  :P  check your /etc/fstab - see if theres a  entry that mentions  /root
[05:21] <e4rlgrey> it was disabled when i installed ubuntu... and when i enabled it... it made the access path /root
[05:21] <lwizardl> anyone here know about setting up linux terminals ? I wanting to use ubuntu for the distro
[05:21] <walden> e4rlgrey: create a directory in the other disk, and make it accessible to the non-root user. use chown to give access to normal user.
[05:22] <Dr_Willis> disabled?
[05:22] <walden> .. that cant happen...
[05:22] <wastrel> yeah i can brighten with gimp but these color levels things and hue/saturation business i have no clue.
[05:22] <chicalinux> e vueltoooooooooo
[05:22] <chicalinux> ups sorry wrong chanel
[05:23] <e4rlgrey> walden:  ok... and what now?
[05:23] <walden> however, what did it mean?
[05:23] <tooleh> tristranmike: I can't start webboard :(
[05:23] <cello_rasp> Dr_Willis: I'm looking forward to see how ubuntu will promote it for both those with the hardware for xgl and for those without.. it would be a shame to promote the eyecandy when some can't get it at all
[05:24] <slavik> what up my linux loving hommies?
[05:24] <ariel> hey
[05:24] <tooleh> tristranmike: http://pastebin.com/641421
[05:24] <ariel> is there a channel where i could ask questions related to the kernel
[05:24] <healot> hommies :)
[05:24] <iceman> Anyone here program Super karamba ?
[05:24] <ariel> and more precisely acpi
[05:24] <slavik> anyone read rms speech?\
[05:24] <slavik> I am starting to dislike rms
[05:24] <Dr_Willis> cello_rasp,  yep. and so far it just seems to be eye candy. :P
[05:24] <walden> e4rlgrey: well, your /root should be in /, which should be on your first disk. edit your /etc/fstab, and give that new disk a different mount point. and change its ownership to a normal user. the command is chown -hR e4rlgrey /e4rlgreystore i think.
[05:25] <healot> slavik, you don't have to love Mr. Stallman
[05:25] <slavik> healot: I never "loved" him :P
[05:25] <slavik> anyone got a howto on configuring xmame/gxmame?
[05:26] <adventchild> !xmame
[05:26] <cello_rasp> Dr_Willis: well the window minaturisation, greyscaling on crash and window tiling are more useful than you think
[05:26] <ubotu> adventchild: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:26] <Siph0n> tristanmike, lol nevermind... didnt work
[05:26] <tooleh> tristranmike: I'll be back tomorrow, it is 4:30 am I have just realised :(
[05:26] <adventchild> !gxmame
[05:26] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, adventchild
[05:26] <adventchild> eh
[05:26] <Dr_Willis> cello_rasp,  i tend to do every program full screen and just alt-tab around all day
[05:26] <adventchild> i tried
[05:26] <slavik> exactly
[05:26] <tooleh> tristranmike: thanks for the help <3
[05:26] <adventchild> google it?
[05:26] <slavik> adventchild: nothing
[05:27] <slavik> thing is that gxmame complains about non-found ini files, which aren't ther
[05:27] <adventchild> slavik: idk....  im new to linux sry...
[05:27] <slavik> and also, if I run gxmame with & after it, I lose my xsession
[05:27] <slavik> adventchild: don't worry about
[05:27] <slavik> s/with/without
[05:27] <zepmantra> hello could be the problem if my installation hangs at scanning cd-rom , i have a sata so i boot with :linux irqpoll ...
[05:28] <xDaSx> im in trouble with this wireless thing
[05:28] <cello_rasp> Dr_Willis: many don't, and i think ultimately the eyecandy is most useful in promoting linux to folk who only care about appearance.. ie most people using windows or osx ;)
[05:28] <adventchild> what vers of wine should i get from http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/w/wi/wine?
[05:28] <Dr_Willis> cello_rasp,  &#&@ with them. :P we got enough problems in this channel with them comming in... Lol.
[05:28] <Phunker> Where is the little ubuntu icon file that is shown on my Gnome applications menu stored?
[05:29] <iceman> Stupid ... wish this superkaramba desktop theme were complete ....
[05:29] <Phunker> I used to know where it was and what it was called but I forget...
[05:29] <_jason> Phunker: /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/distributor-logo.png
[05:29] <notic> anyone here know how to configure postfix?
[05:29] <Phunker> _jason, thanks
[05:30] <_jason> ubotu: menulogo is /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/distributor-logo.png
[05:30] <shrewduser> hi, i'm trying to upgrade my kernel to a newer version (wine issue) but i have no idea where to start....
[05:30] <ubotu> okay, _jason
[05:30] <cello_rasp> Dr_Willis: sadly, they are our future. better a moron has a stable and secure system than a crash-happy virus pig
[05:30] <xDaSx> anyone good with wireless cards and willing to work with a NOOB
[05:30] <xDaSx> ?
[05:31] <shrewduser>  i'm trying to upgrade my kernel to a newer version (wine issue) but i have no idea where to start....
[05:31] <adventchild> !wireless
[05:31] <ubotu> hmm... wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers
[05:32] <shrewduser> can i update kernel from synaptic?
[05:32] <adventchild> xDaSx try 'sudo apt-get install Ndiswrapper'
[05:32] <paula_> can anyone tell me how i can join a new channel?
[05:32] <xDaSx> k
[05:32] <walden> shrewduser: i guess you can...
[05:32] <shrewduser> paula_: /join #channelname
[05:32] <adventchild> paula_: use /j #roomname
[05:32] <knownbad> paul_; /join #channel.
[05:32] <shrewduser> walden: this isn't the preffered method?
[05:32] <Phunker> _jason, whats the command to tell when a file was last modified?
[05:32] <knownbad> shrewduser; yes you surely can.
[05:32] <firewire> Removing gnome-terminal-data ...
[05:32] <firewire> /usr/share/gconf/schemas/gnome-terminal.schemas:5610: parser error : Input is not proper UTF-8, indicate encoding
[05:32] <Tallia1Kubuntu> somebody has a deb packaged version of Audacity1.3beta around? i can't compile it :(
[05:33] <vladuz976> hey, so is it sort of a waste of time nowadays to still learn C, when there is C++ and all the interpeded languages?
[05:33] <paula_> thanks
[05:33] <shrewduser> knownbad: how? do i search for "kernel" ?
[05:33] <_jason> Phunker: stat gives a lot of info, but what ls -l says is modification time I believe
[05:33] <walden> shrewduser: i dunno. many people tend to download the kernel release source and compile it with kernel package
[05:33] <Phunker> _jason, thanks
[05:33] <xDaSx> E: Couldn't find package Ndiswrapper
[05:33] <knownbad> shrewduser; yes, and you'll get list to choose from.
[05:33] <e4rlgrey> walden:  i don't seem to have this: /etc/fstab
[05:33] <slavik> vladuz976: C is very usefull
[05:33] <djk_> vladuz976: you do realize how idiotic that statemeant is don't you...
[05:33] <shrewduser> walden: this may be a bit beyond me....
[05:33] <slavik> OpenGL is still C ...
[05:33] <tristanmike> isn't it "ndiswrapper" ? no capital N
[05:33] <e4rlgrey> <<<< noob at ubuntu
[05:33] <walden> shrewduser: so just apt-get install it
[05:33] <xDaSx> adventchild: Couldn't find package Ndiswrapper
[05:34] <walden> e4rlgrey: open a terminal and type "sudo gedit /etc/fstab"
[05:34] <shrewduser> knownbad: i can't seem to find a kernel beyond 2.6.12....
[05:34] <slavik> vladuz976: but then again, if you know C++, you can learn C easily
[05:34] <adventchild> xDaSx try ndiswrapper instead of Ndiswrapper
[05:34] <knownbad> shrewduser; try linux-image
[05:34] <vladuz976> djk_: i don't know much about it yet. i know linux is mostly written in C, and most ppl on campus here talk about c++, why, I don't know
[05:34] <knownbad> shrewduser; this will cut down browsing.
[05:34] <shrewduser> knownbad:ta
[05:35] <Zoo> hi all
[05:35] <sgt-dyke> hi everyone
[05:35] <runelind> I'm having trouble getting wpasupplicant to start at startup
[05:35] <knownbad> shrewduser; any resson to go beyond 2.6.12?
[05:35] <djk_> vladuz976: what do you study?
[05:35] <Zoo> testing with ubuntu dapper drake, 6, its all going quite well.. snes rocks :-) editing run level .. :)
[05:35] <healot>  should I say Linux kernel is made of 100% C?
[05:35] <vladuz976> slavik: how about the other way around?
[05:35] <shrewduser> knownbad: wine apparently....
[05:35] <vladuz976> djk_: physics
[05:35] <sgt-dyke> can someone told me how to mount an usb thing.... Mp3 player
[05:35] <shrewduser> knownbad: i have an issue which apparently is resolved with newer kernel..
[05:35] <runelind> I went to /etc/defaults/wpasupplicant and set enabled=1 and uncommented the correct option
[05:35] <e4rlgrey> walden:  it doesn't say anything about /root
[05:35] <Zoo> hi all, :)
[05:35] <shrewduser> knownbad: according to the nice people in #winehq....
[05:35] <vladuz976> djk_: i am not going to develop an OS, i just want some basic understanding
[05:36] <Zoo> hi vladuz976
[05:36] <xDaSx> adventchild: No luck same error
[05:36] <knownbad> shrewduser; you'll need to download seperately or add additional source.
[05:36] <walden> e4rlgrey: hm. then how is the other disk mounted? there should be some sort of entry for it in fstab, right?
[05:36] <healot> xDaSx, for a good start, why don;t you use "Synaptic"?
[05:36] <ubuntu> :P
[05:36] <ubuntu> ^_^
[05:36] <shrewduser> knownbad: perhaps i should abstain..... i'm not advanced enough....
[05:36] <ubuntu> rocks
[05:36] <ubuntu> :D
[05:36] <Zoo> :-)
[05:37] <adventchild> sgt-dyke: try mkdir /media/mp3/ mount /dev/*mp3*/ /media/mp3 where mp3 is what your mp3 player is called
[05:37] <xDaSx> healot: What does that do
[05:37] <knownbad> shrewduser; have you googled yet?
[05:37] <adventchild> xDaSx: try sudo aptitude ndiswrapper
[05:37] <e4rlgrey> walden:  yeah... the other disk says the mount point is /
[05:37] <knownbad> shrewduser; any known working version?
[05:37] <shrewduser> knownbad: i'm googleing around....
[05:37] <walden> e4rlgrey: can you paste your /etc/fstab in #flood?
[05:37] <shrewduser> knownbad: working version?
[05:37] <sgt-dyke> thanx adventchild... i'm gonna try that
[05:37] <e4rlgrey> ok
[05:38] <healot> xDaSx, it could format your partition on the fly :)
[05:38] <shrewduser> knownbad: perhaps i should wait for dapper.... surely dapper uses a more up to date kernel....
[05:38] <ariel> anyone familiar with acpi here? i'm having troubles with my fn keys
[05:38] <Zoo> sort of
[05:38] <cjones> what is amixer?
[05:38] <adventchild> !mizer
[05:38] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, adventchild
[05:38] <adventchild> !mixer
[05:38] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, adventchild
[05:38] <Zoo> advance control power interface, management, etc..
[05:39] <e4rlgrey> walden: it's there
[05:39] <Zoo> alot with.. i/o :P
[05:39] <healot> shrewduser, the best way is to get the latest source from kernel.org
[05:39] <walden> e4rlgrey: you have one hard disk on which ubuntu is installed, and 2 cd drives?
[05:39] <adventchild> i feel stupid...
[05:39] <Zoo> why
[05:39] <shrewduser> healot: i wouldn't know what i'm doing....
[05:39] <adventchild> idk...  cant get wine to run my cd...
[05:39] <Zoo> I'm testing out latest, all is well, I'm editing aot of things though :P
[05:39] <healot> and next install "kernel" package...
[05:39] <walden> e4rlgrey: the other hard disk is not existing in your /etc/fstab
[05:39] <Zoo> oh
[05:39] <xDaSx> adventchild: Unknown command "ndiswrapper" followed by full usage instructions
[05:39] <healot> !kernel
[05:39] <Zoo> you ever thought of, CodeWeavers, using there version instead or vmware?
[05:40] <adventchild> xDaSx: 1 sec
[05:40] <e4rlgrey> walden:  yeah i know... it's not there... but i can still access it from filesystem
[05:40] <Madpilot> shrewduser, the current (non-Dapper) kernel works fine - why wait for Dapper just for a higher kernel number?
[05:40] <walden> e4rlgrey: how? what did you mount the new hard disk as?
[05:40] <knownbad> shrewduser; working kernel version for you?
[05:40] <healot> xDaSx, it is "sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper", dont forget the operation "install"
[05:40] <Zoo> yep
[05:40] <Zoo> drake runs great :D
[05:40] <cjones> could someone giev me some help on a new install
[05:40] <walden> e4rlgrey: the hard disk wont be there unless you mount it as something
[05:40] <adventchild> xDaSx:  sudo aptitude install ndiswrapper
[05:40] <shrewduser> you guys: are confusing me :D
[05:40] <Zoo> sure cjones
[05:40] <FadedSun> Is there a sane way to make gnome go bye-bye after installing kde?
[05:41] <Zoo> yes
[05:41] <BlueHeron> FadedSun: not really......
[05:41] <e4rlgrey> walden: and how do i do that?
[05:41] <Zoo> sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop
[05:41] <Zoo> :)
[05:41] <knownbad> Madeye; shrewduser was told newer kernel works for his particular problem.
[05:41] <BlueHeron> Zoo: that is a meta package and does nothing
[05:41] <Zoo> fluxbox, nice :)
[05:41] <shrewduser> apparently wine has an issue which is resolved by moving to a newer kernel... thats all i'm trying to do.....
[05:41] <walden> that will only remove themeta package...
[05:41] <BlueHeron> Zoo: it uninstallas nothing
[05:41] <knownbad> errrrr.
[05:41] <Zoo> ah
[05:41] <Tallia1Kubuntu> somebody has a deb packaged version of Audacity1.3beta around? i can't compile it :(
[05:41] <xDaSx> healot & adventchild: It worked
[05:41] <Zoo> well I like gnome, kde, and fluxbox.. o.o
[05:41] <knownbad> Madpilot; shrewduser was told newer kernel works for his particular problem.
[05:41] <walden> maybe, aptitude remove will work.
[05:41] <BlueHeron> kfce is ok
[05:41] <cjones> when i boot  in linux it goes right to a command line and when i boot to xp it goes to the splash screen and reboots
[05:41] <Madpilot> knownbad, ah, OK
[05:41] <walden> what is kfce?
[05:41] <Zoo> I run my fluxbox , when I dj alot, visulation kicks :)
[05:41] <BlueHeron> xfce*
[05:42] <walden> oh. hehe.
[05:42] <shrewduser> is there perhaps a repository with a newer kernel?
[05:42] <Zoo> yeah I know about, xfce
[05:42] <carthik> FadedSun, install and run debfoster
[05:42] <Zoo> don't run it though :-)
[05:42] <IdleOne> Tallia1Kubuntu, agi audacity
[05:42] <Madpilot> shrewduser, you could run the testing versions of Dapper
[05:42] <xDaSx> healot & adventchild: What next?
[05:42] <Zoo> hi BlueDevil ,
[05:42] <carthik> FadedSun, read the instruction for debfoster too
[05:42] <Zoo> BlueHeron,
[05:42] <Tallia1Kubuntu> IdleOne: agi?
[05:42] <BlueHeron> Zoo: yes ?
[05:42] <BlueHeron> Zoo: :-)
[05:42] <Zoo> i said hi.. *
[05:42] <IdleOne> apt-get install
[05:42] <walden> e4rlgrey: http://yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialAdditionalHardDrive.html
[05:42] <knownbad> shrewduser; that's a good question...:)
[05:42] <Zoo> :-)
[05:42] <healot> xDaSx, wait and see the install to finish?
[05:42] <walden> e4rlgrey: check that out :)
[05:43] <healot> !ndiswrapper
[05:43] <ubotu> from memory, ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[05:43] <xDaSx> healot it did
[05:43] <healot> or follow that.. xDaSx
[05:43] <shrewduser> madpilot: thats an option.... but i don't know how to upgrade, is it easy?
[05:43] <Zoo> well, I"m an IT engineer, so I work with Windows XP Pro, and hacking its shell, registry, I run a few cad software 3d modeling, and dj software, and on filetopia client, ubuntu my fun power toy :-)
[05:43] <Tallia1Kubuntu> IdleOne: agi?
[05:43] <Madpilot> shrewduser, fairly easy, but not always flawless
[05:44] <Madpilot> !tell shrewduser about upgrade
[05:44] <Zoo> and Windows Vista, already tested 2 builds.. its not worth a dang piece of anyones time .. rock ubuntu all the way , protect yourself, and your system :-)
[05:44] <Zoo> I told my instructors, stick vista where the sun don't shine :-)
[05:44] <slavik> Zoo: where does the sun NOT shine?
[05:44] <Zoo> hi maddler
[05:44] <Zoo> Madpilot, *
[05:44] <mavric2001> whats ubuntu's official opinion on Automatix?
[05:44] <cjones> what causes ubuntu to boot to the command line
[05:44] <tristanmike> slavik: on the dark side of the moon
[05:44] <shrewduser> madpilot: thanks, i will try it out...
[05:44] <healot> Zoo, dude... fighting over software dont really worth a cent :)
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> mavric2001,  DONT USE it. :P
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> lol
[05:45] <Madpilot> hi Zoo
[05:45] <Zoo> nope :-)
[05:45] <Joetheodd> slavik: The closet?
[05:45] <slavik> mavric2001: it can break things
[05:45] <Zoo> well, its the fact, they can't pay me enough to manage it for them , :-)
[05:45] <slavik> Joetheodd: what if you open the door?
[05:45] <Joetheodd> Yes everyone! Stick your vista disks in the closet!
[05:45] <mavric2001> i just used it , nothings broke, but im wondering about the sources
[05:45] <Joetheodd> !automatix
[05:45] <ubotu> from memory, automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> mavric2001,  heh - there used to be a very very heated thread on the forums about it.
[05:45] <adventchild> Madpilot: sorry about last night
[05:45] <e4rlgrey> walden:  I don't have to ad a new drive... it's already there... it's being recognized... i can read all the data on it... i just can't edit any of the data on it
[05:45] <Joetheodd> slavik: It'll come in at an angle. Tape it to the ceiling.
[05:45] <healot> I get paid to manage both worlds, Zoo :)
[05:45] <mavric2001> i found out about it on ubuntu's site
[05:45] <BlueHeron> e4rlgrey: is it ntfs ?
[05:45] <Zoo> yeah, I was going set automatix up for newbies, but its not worth it.. etc
[05:45] <slavik> what if you turn the building?
[05:45] <Madpilot> adventchild, what?
[05:45] <tristanmike> mavric2001: you found out about on the forums
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> mavric2001,  best - is to learn how to install the stuff yourself.
[05:46] <Joetheodd> slavik: Then Vista will STILL suck. =p
[05:46] <e4rlgrey> BlueHeron: no... it's FAT
[05:46] <vince_> Dr_WIllis: HEY MAN I FIXED IT!
[05:46] <Zoo> hey all, I'm supporting ubuntu in my business, :-)
[05:46] <FlannelKing> mavric2001: if you want, use easyubuntu, not automatix
[05:46] <adventchild> Madpilot: the pm....  wasnt thinking
[05:46] <BlueHeron> e4rlgrey: did you try chmodding it to 777 ? or 666
[05:46] <vince_> Ohh my name is wrong
[05:46] <Dr_Willis> vince_,  Great... fixed what? :P
[05:46] <Dr_Willis> lol
[05:46] <Madpilot> adventchild, no problem, no harm done
[05:46] <tristanmike> !tell mavric2001 about easyubuntu
[05:46] <Zoo> people are actually glad, with me setting up, what I call the, A.I. Linux System
[05:46] <Zoo> :-)
[05:46] <mavric2001> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=138405&highlight=automatix
[05:46] <e4rlgrey> BlueHeron:  I don't even know what that means lol
[05:46] <walden> e4rlgrey: cant you use sudo to edit the data?
[05:46] <vince_> Dr_Willis: I just noticed my name is messed up.  I'm spazzz the guy who was having ther partition issues yesterday
[05:46] <Dr_Willis> I still think ya should not use easyubuntu - :P  learn how to do it! be a man!
[05:46] <adventchild> what is a reliable site to download wine? or terminal cmd?
[05:46] <tristanmike> mavric2001: things on the forums should be taken with a grain of salt
[05:47] <Zoo> well.. reading isn't all that hard
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> !info wine
[05:47] <ubotu> wine: (Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library)), section universe/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.0.20050725-0ubuntu1.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 14130 kB, Installed size: 55488 kB
[05:47] <Tallia1Kubuntu> IdleOne: agi?
[05:47] <Tallia1Kubuntu> IdleOne: agi audacity?
[05:47] <Tallia1Kubuntu> somebody has a deb packaged version of Audacity1.3beta around? i can't compile it :(
[05:47] <mavric2001> i have learned how to do it, but automatix is really handy
[05:47] <slavik> Zoo: ubuntu doesn't have dependancy hell, like windows :P
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> adventchild,  its in the Universe repository.
[05:47] <Zoo> I'm using, VMware, and TEchSmith camtasia studio. to show users how to use linux etc, you can also use, xvidcap etc
[05:47] <tristanmike> !easyubuntu
[05:47] <ubotu> easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu
[05:47] <Zoo> lol i know
[05:47] <adventchild> ty
[05:47] <tristanmike> mavric2001: ^^^^
[05:47] <Madpilot> !tell adventchild about wine
[05:47] <walden> e4rlgrey: and how are you reading the data on it? like if you are in the drive andlooking at the data, just type pwd there and tell us.
[05:47] <e4rlgrey> walden:  like i said, i'm a noob at ubuntu
[05:47] <walden> e4rlgrey: so am i!!
[05:47] <Zoo> its not even, 2010 yet :-)
[05:47] <slavik> e4rlgrey: what ya need hep with?
[05:47] <walden> :)
[05:47] <shrewduser> ok i'm doing a dist upgrade (exciting:) bbl
[05:47] <tristanmike> mavric2001: http://nalioth.hostdestroyer.com/comparison.html
[05:48] <Zoo> hi slavik , we meet again :-)
[05:48] <slavik> yo
[05:48] <healot> e4rlgrey, new in Linux is a better general statement
[05:48] <slavik> Zoo: are you the one in the bronx?
[05:48] <Zoo> I was on a vacation, from my systems.. :-)
[05:48] <ltR20> Does anyone have quake 3 on linux?
[05:48] <slavik> Zoo: have you heard of US Tech Solutions?
[05:48] <e4rlgrey> healot: yeah... i guess that'd be right... dual booted with ubuntu before though... and had no problems
[05:48] <Zoo> nope
[05:48] <slavik> it's some kind of a consulting company
[05:48] <Zoo> sounds cool though
[05:48] <slavik> job fairs suck then
[05:48] <walden> e4rlgrey: just asking how do you access the files on it? how do you get to this new drive?
[05:48] <Zoo> i see, I also support this, CGi company,
[05:49] <slavik> I want to do game dev :D
[05:49] <slavik> or gov't
[05:49] <Zoo> its a Business Performance Consulting company, where I live, in my city
[05:49] <healot> ltR20, that still require the original WAD maps...
[05:49] <Zoo> i see
[05:49] <mavric2001> thanks for your opinions
[05:49] <Zoo> well, I thought NSA, but eh
[05:49] <e4rlgrey> walden:  i have to go to /root or view my drives and click "browse" to access the files on it
[05:49] <xDaSx> healot, how can I check to see if I installed Ndiswrapper correctly?
[05:49] <ltR20> what healot?
[05:49] <healot> iwconfig... xDaSx
[05:49] <walden> e4rlgrey: /root or just / ?
[05:49] <slavik> I'd go for Secret service but they keep you on a task force for like only 5 years
[05:49] <Zoo> do.. ifconfig
[05:50] <ltR20> healot, can i download quake 3 for free?
[05:50] <Zoo> you should.. hee. install drake lol
[05:50] <carthik> does anyone know of a new font viewer
[05:50] <e4rlgrey> walden: /root
[05:50] <adventchild> Madpilot: ty
[05:50] <healot> it will tell you if any of your ethernet has wireless extension...
[05:50] <carthik> gfontview doesn't quite cut it
[05:50] <walden> e4rlgrey: and what is this new drive called in /root?
[05:50] <Zoo> the network manager, is bad arse.. and plus, I love the developers that worked on, broadcom pci " :P
[05:50] <healot> ltR20, ubuntu has a free version of quake
[05:50] <healot> Quake 2... not quake 3
[05:50] <xDaSx> healot they say no wireless extension
[05:50] <tristanmike> healot: really ?
[05:50] <Zoo> thanks to the developers. and me not giving up... my Acer is bad arse :-) wireless never has been better :-)
[05:50] <Phunker> _jason, That wasn't the right path I'm afraid :(
[05:51] <slavik> Zoo: dapper?
[05:51] <healot> xDaSx, not even one?
[05:51] <Phunker> !menulogo
[05:51] <ubotu> methinks menulogo is /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/distributor-logo.png
[05:51] <Zoo> I have alot of people, when at book stores and cafe, and college, hey, is that linux ? o.o.. :-)
[05:51] <e4rlgrey> walden: it's not called anything... the data's just there as if root IS the drive
[05:51] <_jason> Phunker: how come?
[05:51] <xDaSx> healot: lo no wireless extension
[05:51] <Phunker> _jason, I restarted X and it didn't change :/
[05:51] <Zoo> I say, yep, and they say, I only use windows.. :P
[05:51] <slavik> I can connect to all wep and open networks though
[05:51] <xDaSx> same for the other two
[05:51] <healot> package "quake2" Games (Multiverse)
[05:51] <Zoo> and I tell them, well I work with multiple systems. so
[05:51] <_jason> Phunker: 'locate distributor-logo.png', are you using a different theme maybe?
[05:51] <Zoo> hey slavik ,
[05:52] <walden> e4rlgrey: and is this disk a fat32, or linux or ntfs drive?
[05:52] <slavik> yes?
[05:52] <mavric2001> any known issues with spyware or trojans with automatix?
[05:52] <walden> e4rlgrey: the backup disk, i mean
[05:52] <Zoo> remember all that talk I did about DesktopBSd, and even the official came out.. meh to it .. meh
[05:52] <healot> xDaSx, how about the others? sure "lo" is a virtual interface, it doesn;t connect or have wireless extension
[05:52] <Zoo> ubuntu lights my fire  :-)
[05:52] <e4rlgrey> walden: fat32 is the disk i can only read but not edit
[05:52] <Zoo> I stick with what I know. debian base.... all the way :)
[05:52] <cjones> zoo what causes you to boot to the command line the only fail i get is amixer
[05:52] <Phunker> _jason, different theme yes, but that shouldnt change that logo, that logo doesnt get changed by themes
[05:52] <slavik> pcbsd?
[05:52] <lwizardl> what is this called ? I'm wanting to setup a backend server to serv as the main information host and have two or three terminals pulling the information and updating as needed. is that called terminal servers ?
[05:52] <xDaSx> healot: eth0 and sit0 also say "no wireless extension"
[05:52] <Zoo> thats not worth it either m8
[05:52] <slavik> it's nice, but I like debian based systems :D
[05:52] <Zoo> yep
[05:53] <_jason> Phunker: I believe some themes do, did the locate command turn up anything?
[05:53] <slavik> xDaSx: try wlan0?
[05:53] <_jason> Phunker: and you are using breezy?
[05:53] <healot> xDaSx, then still haven't configure your wifi card yet... did you followed the wiki?
[05:53] <FlannelKing> mavric2001: what's wrong with easyubuntu? it does the same thing. and is more safe.
[05:53] <walden> e4rlgrey: i still dont get it ... if it is a different disk, then it _should_ have an entry in /etc/fstab
[05:53] <Zoo> hey slavik ,
[05:53] <walden> e4rlgrey: unless of course if you mount it manually.
[05:53] <xDaSx> healot: I'm trying to but I'm kinda lost
[05:53] <mavric2001> nothing, ive already used automatix however just curious
[05:53] <Phunker> _jason, no Dapper, but I think I just found out the prob
[05:53] <_jason> Phunker: what's that?
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> FlannelKing,  and it dont have a huge flamwar going on about it.
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> :P
[05:53] <Phunker> It didn't copy or something
[05:53] <slavik> Zoo: yes?
[05:53] <healot> xDaSx, i'm lost with these text too :)
[05:53] <firewire> Why does dpkg continue with a commit even if it detects corruption?
[05:54] <firewire> resulting in corrupt packages being installed..
[05:54] <tristanmike> healot: how do i install a free quake for Ubuntu ?
[05:54] <slavik> firewire: I don't think it does
[05:54] <slavik> does it?
[05:54] <_jason> Phunker: you don't need to restart X, just do 'killall gnome-panel'
[05:54] <Phunker> _jason, /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/distributor-logo.png?
[05:54] <firewire> slavik: adept finishes the commit then marks the packages as "BROKEN (Installed"
[05:54] <Phunker> !menulogo
[05:54] <ubotu> rumour has it, menulogo is /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/distributor-logo.png
[05:54] <vince_> Ok anyone mind a compleate newb question?   What is the linux equivelent of a "shortcut" in Linux?
[05:54] <slavik> does broken mean corrupted?
[05:54] <firewire> so now I have a box that's completely broken just because I tried to install gnome :(
[05:55] <walden> vince_: ln, softlink. man ln
[05:55] <healot> tristanmike, add "multiverse" to your repos, update, and search for package "quake2" and "quake2-data"
[05:55] <_jason> vince_: symlink
[05:55] <slavik> vince_: symbolic link
[05:55] <Zoo> I went to this Computer Deli place to buy ram for my  workstation, and ide cable etc, other things as well, and this geek guy was like,  Slackware, run level 3 what, and I was like, .... What do you want  a medal, I already know a bit about slackware, and that is uses compressed like system, etc.. whatever blah blah, and gentoo, but I like supporting ubuntu, its more simple to deal with, and is widely supported world wide, and my customers
[05:55] <Zoo>  seem to enjoy what I set up for them,
[05:55] <tristanmike> healot: it says I still need the data from the cd
[05:55] <e4rlgrey> walden:  all i know is that when i installed ubuntu it said the disk was "disabled" when i went to system/administration/disks I then enabled it and the access path became /root and it said the owner was root and all the files are in /root... and i can read it... copy data from it... but not delete anything on it
[05:55] <vince_> Ok.. How would I set one up?
[05:55] <firewire> slavik: I get errors like this when I try to deactivate: usr/share/gconf/schemas/gnome-terminal.schemas:5610: parser error : Input is not proper UTF-8, indicate encoding !
[05:55] <walden> e4rlgrey: ah, ok
[05:55] <healot> tristanmike, yes... as I said before, you need the map data from the Original CD
[05:55] <_jason> vince_: ln -s /link/to /link/name
[05:55] <vince_> I need to create links in my home DIR to my music librarys and the like in my FAT32 partition
[05:55] <Zoo> people, and competition with distributions.. thats silly
[05:55] <tristanmike> healot: so it's not free....you must pay for the cd
[05:56] <vince_> _Jason: Ok so let me make sure i have this right hten
[05:56] <Zoo> I just laugh at them :-)
[05:56] <slavik> Zoo: have you read RMS speech?
[05:56] <healot> yup...
[05:56] <Zoo> next time I go back there to buy something, I am going be like, wearing an ubuntu Golf T :-)
[05:56] <vince_> ln -s /mnt/hda2/Music /home/vince/Music
[05:56] <healot> the Linux version is free, the maps are not... tristanmike
[05:56] <Zoo> ?
[05:56] <_jason> vince_: that will point /home/vince/Music to /mnt/hda2/Music
[05:56] <slavik> offtopic
[05:57] <vince_> _jason: Ok I think thats what I want
[05:57] <firewire> man this is annoying
[05:57] <vince_> Thanks!
[05:57] <walden> e4rlgrey: ok, open a terminal and type "sudo mkdir /media/backup"
[05:57] <Phunker> _jason, still no luck
[05:57] <xDaSx> healot: ok, I have to install utils to use ndiswrapper, do i need: hoary hedgehog, brezzy badger, or dapper drake, which, may i add, sounds ridiculous
[05:57] <Zoo> and hey slavik , I runnin skype , its awesome m8, I thought it was all bad on win, and my friends, don't even know about skype on linux, and I got alot of people involved using ubuntu, I feel that I have contributed in my ways :-)
[05:57] <healot> xDaSx, just choose uno :)
[05:57] <slavik> is there a util similar to spacemonger?
[05:57] <Phunker> And thats the only path that comes up under locate
[05:57] <tristanmike> healot: well what's the point then ? :P
[05:57] <slavik> Zoo: do !v2000z :P
[05:57] <xDaSx> healot: Hoary it is
[05:58] <e4rlgrey> walden: ok... done
[05:58] <Phunker> I wonder if Aiglx is effecting it or something :-/
[05:58] <walden> e4rlgrey: then goto System > administration > disks, and for this new disk that you added, change the access path to /media/backup and also note down what the "Device" it is
[05:58] <Zoo> o.o
[05:58] <Zoo> Zo.o
[05:58] <slavik> !v2000z
[05:58] <ubotu> v2000z is, like, The followng wiki page has some information on fixing problems you might encounter with installing Breezy Badger on the Compaq Presario V2000Z. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/CompaqPresarioV2000Z
[05:58] <Zoo> well I got my books to study, I don't wantt o yap too much :-)
[05:58] <firewire> is there a way to reinstall a package?
[05:58] <slavik> firewire: yes
[05:58] <healot> tristanmike, it's for the original users to try their linux version?
[05:58] <slavik> apt-get reinstall?
[05:58] <Zoo> ubotu, I'm not runnin breezy blah, :P
[05:58] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Zoo
[05:58] <_jason> firewire: sudo aptitude reinstall package
[05:58] <Zoo> nice to see ya though :P
[05:59] <slavik> or uninstall and then install again?
[05:59] <walden> slavik: i use a v4000 compaq and it has almost the same problems...
[05:59] <Zoo> <--- independant developer.. currently working with drake :-)
[05:59] <walden> like a weird error when i startup about the CD/DVD drive
[05:59] <slavik> walden: what kind of problems?
[05:59] <e4rlgrey> walden: ok... done
[05:59] <Phunker> _jason, anymore ideas?
[05:59] <Zoo> <--- also helps.. MIrcroSoft :-)
[05:59] <walden> slavik: dmesg filled with some error 0x70
[05:59] <slavik> for USB devices?
[06:00] <walden> e4rlgrey: in System > admin > disks, what is the "Device" for this disk?
[06:00] <e4rlgrey> walden: the access path doesn't remain /media/backup.... it changes right back to /root
[06:00] <_jason> Phunker: well in dapper it may have changed... but try renaming distributor-logo.png to distributor-logo.png.backup and killall gnome-panel and see if it changes to a gnome foot
[06:00] <Phunker> No it's the same
[06:00] <Phunker> I changed it before
[06:00] <Phunker> Then after a system update it broke
[06:00] <_jason> Phunker: did locate turn up anything?
[06:00] <walden> e4rlgrey: hm. what is against the "Device" at the top of the "partition properties"?
[06:00] <adventchild> Madpilot: i downloaded wine through the SPM... what dir would it be in?
[06:01] <walden> slavik: do you have the same laptop? the v2000z?
[06:01] <Siph0n> WAHOO!!! GOT IT TO WORK! :)
[06:01] <cin> :D
[06:01] <tkup> does anyone not see text in this flash demo: http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/473/vtp_flash/? I can't!
[06:01] <slavik> yes
[06:01] <e4rlgrey> walden: /dev/hdb1
[06:01] <Zoo> hey slavik , forgot to tell ya
[06:01] <slavik> I wrote the wiki page for it
[06:01] <Zoo> before I watch movie, etc, and study
[06:01] <cin> Siph0n, ^5
[06:01] <healot> Siph0n, a good thing to remember, document your work around :)
[06:01] <slavik> for usb devices, I think you need to upgrade the kernel to the latest ...
[06:01] <Phunker> _jason, ya locate turned up that exact path
[06:02] <walden> slavik: ok. i just installed ubuntu on the v4000, about 2 days ago, so i dont qualify as experienced enough to write anything.. but still
[06:02] <healot> tkup, that's Flash 8 movies.... thus, the default Flash 7 or the GPL'ed Flash player cannot play those movies well
[06:02] <walden> slavik: latest kernel from where? my usb mouse works fine..
[06:02] <Zoo> this guy, like designed hotkey, was able to hit key, split his screen, be out of x, but still have his GUI on bottom lol.. split green deal, I'm pretty dam sure you could design virtual desktop that way as well lol
[06:02] <slavik> walden: same here :P
[06:02] <walden> slavik: haha. ok.
[06:02] <slavik> what about usb drive?
[06:02] <_jason> Phunker: don't know then, they must be doing something else in dapper
[06:02] <walden> slavik: let me plug in the ipod..
[06:02] <walden> hold on
[06:02] <slavik> my usb thumb drive wouldn't work
[06:02] <_jason> Phunker: download the code and start reading :)
[06:02] <Phunker> hehe
[06:03] <Zoo> btw slavik , snes works great, I'm working on , pcsxe2 etc.. ps2 for ubuntu, and render rates are awesome on drake :-)
[06:03] <Siph0n> healot, yea definatelly am gonna do that
[06:03] <slavik> then I updated the kernel and it works
[06:03] <Zoo> dapper draker.. 6 :-)
[06:03] <tkup> healot, shoot that sucks :(
[06:03] <slavik> Zoo: you are one of the devs of pcsx2?
[06:03] <Zoo> hee
[06:03] <Zoo> ;)
[06:03] <Siph0n> healot, expecially since I may have to present it to my teacher and redo everything
[06:03] <adventchild> _jason: i have installed wine using the SPM...  what would be the next step in using it to view/install my window$ based cd?
[06:03] <slavik> because I have problems with pcsx >.<
[06:03] <Zoo> independently speaking. :P
[06:04] <slavik> no analog joystick plugin ...
[06:04] <Zoo> ah
[06:04] <Zoo> o.o
[06:04] <healot> tkup, can't help much, got to use Windows version of Flash, Firefox or IE...
[06:04] <tristanmike> Siph0n: you should post it on the wiki
[06:04] <Zoo> o.o
[06:04] <_jason> adventchild: no idea, I've never used wine.  All I know is you do 'wine file.exe' and pray it works
[06:04] <adventchild> ty
[06:04] <Siph0n> tristanmike, lol its not done yet, but yea IF i ever get it working i will :)
[06:04] <slavik> walden: your ipod works?
[06:04] <Zoo> slavik, , get into usb, controllers
[06:05] <adventchild> _jason: if it is on cd, would the file be under '~/Desktop/*cdname*/filename.exe?
[06:05] <slavik> Zoo: I have one
[06:05] <slavik> a ps2 one
[06:05] <Zoo> ^_^
[06:05] <slavik> no plugin to use it though
[06:05] <Zoo> i see
[06:05] <Zoo> whats the model eh
[06:05] <slavik> epsxe has only digital built in ... so analog external doesn't work
[06:05] <walden> slavik: yup. nautilus opens up
[06:05] <Zoo> I"ll check into for you, I gettin ready watch movie, drink study
[06:05] <walden> slavik: and i can copy data from/to it
[06:05] <slavik> it's a ps2 compatible controller :P
[06:05] <slavik> hmm
[06:05] <_jason> adventchild: /media/cdrom0/filename.exe usually, try going in a terminal and navigating to the cd
[06:05] <Zoo> oh I see
[06:06] <slavik> walden: do you still have error 70 in dmesg?
[06:06] <Zoo> duh I was thinkin something else, your analog joy stick pads, control, don't work
[06:06] <Zoo> eh
[06:06] <walden> slavik: mine is Linux zaphod 2.6.15-19-386 #1 PREEMPT Mon Mar 20 16:46:02 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[06:06] <walden> slavik: yeah. wait. lemme show you the messg.
[06:06] <slavik> walden: pm it
[06:06] <_jason> adventchild: someone was saying earlier that nautilus lets you double click on exe's if you have installed wine, you can try that too
[06:06] <adventchild> tried it...
[06:06] <slavik> _jason: I can confirm that it works
[06:06] <_jason> adventchild: ha
[06:06] <Zoo> do.. wine exe
[06:06] <slavik> I suggest using terminal anyway
[06:06] <adventchild> ill try again tho
[06:07] <adventchild> ty
[06:07] <Zoo> ->  wine filename.exe
[06:07] <slavik> sometimes there are errors that close wine
[06:07] <walden> slavik: that message is like all over dmesg
[06:07] <sean__> ok so i have a dual boot system but in linux i can't write files to my windows mount, how can i change that
[06:07] <iceman> help what would cause a keyboard to need extreme log key presses to type
[06:07] <slavik> !v2000z
[06:07] <ubotu> v2000z is, like, totally, The followng wiki page has some information on fixing problems you might encounter with installing Breezy Badger on the Compaq Presario V2000Z. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/CompaqPresarioV2000Z
[06:07] <Zoo> you need to get into using, maybe CodeWeavers, or Vmware, you continue have problems, install vmware tools, but usually, you will be just fine with workstation 5 and above, installs sounds and uses your host as its power, :-)
[06:08] <iceman> damn type rate is ungodly slow
[06:08] <Zoo> emulating windows software on linux, is pesky,, only a majority will run kind of stable :-)
[06:08] <Zoo> so to speak
[06:08] <Siph0n> sean__, im pretty sure u cant write to NTFS
[06:08] <walden> slavik: and yeah.. there is a nice icon for the ipod on the desk :)
[06:08] <sean__> oh ok
[06:08] <adventchild> slavik: i keep getting an external exception error...  am i doing something wrong?
[06:08] <Siph0n> sean__, maybe FAT32, but im not too sure?
[06:08] <Zoo> sean,
[06:09] <slavik> adventchild: paste the entire error thing into a pm to me
[06:09] <slavik> or into pastebin
[06:09] <Zoo> you have to edit the configuration, to be able to write it to .. fat, etc but I'm not sure if you will be allowed to write to ntfs, because of its security...
[06:09] <slavik> walden, no clue ... I don't have that
[06:09] <walden> slavik: ok
[06:09] <slavik> walden, what does "uname -r" print out?
[06:09] <iceman> help
[06:09] <Zoo> i"M pretty dam sure you can't write to ntfs, unless you were to hack the ntfs file system :) and your shell in win to allow it :-)
[06:09] <healot> to be able to write on FAT32, just set the option "rw" or may want set the (dfu)mask properly
[06:09] <Madpilot> adventchild, sorry, was afk for a while there
[06:10] <walden> slavik:Linux zaphod 2.6.15-19-386 #1 PREEMPT Mon Mar 20 16:46:02 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[06:10] <walden> it should!!
[06:10] <slavik> walden: are you running dapper?
[06:10] <walden> slavik: yup
[06:10] <slavik> badger here ...
[06:10] <walden> slavik: oh.
[06:10] <walden> i just downloaded the 6.06 thing and installed it on monday.
[06:11] <slavik> oh
[06:11] <walden> :)
[06:11] <Zoo> slavik, just creat you a fat partition, and copy your win files there etc, but, eh, I use 80 GB lacie , and its crossover platforms, fat, etc, however, I have couple hard drives in my workstation.s o , I"m not worried, and I use, Acronis Disk Director Suite m8
[06:11] <slavik> submit it on launchpad
[06:11] <walden> works good.
[06:11] <Zoo> i meant sean*
[06:11] <walden> what is launchpad?
[06:11] <adventchild> slavik: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11496
[06:11] <slavik> Zoo: 40gb only for ubuntu :)
[06:11] <adventchild> Madpilot: np
[06:11] <slavik> and an ftp server on my windows system :)
[06:11] <adventchild> adventchild, hehehe
[06:12] <wickedpuppy> Dreamglider, try this ... uninsert it ... type dmesg ... insert it and dmesg again see if anything is detected\
[06:12] <wickedpuppy> Dreamglider, try this ... uninsert it ... type dmesg ... insert it and dmesg again see if anything is detected\
[06:12] <wickedpuppy> 444+
[06:12] <slavik> adventchild: seems like that program is not liking something about it's environment
[06:12] <Zoo> slavik, its only got a 20 GB spot on my laptop, and I got a 60, gb seagate, and a 80 GB lacie, I am probably going be gettin.. sata, seagate, and a Asusl  board, but I still using my AMD Athlon xp 2600 , and my mach speed for my workstation :-)
[06:12] <adventchild> slavik: crap....  i need that prgm for school
[06:12] <Zoo> ASUS*
[06:12] <slavik> sempron 3000+ here :)
[06:12] <sgt-dyke> Hey it's me again... i want to know... could it be possible i have trouble with my jvc Mp3 player... beacause the memory is Vfat
[06:13] <iceman> how to fix keyboard rate
[06:13] <slavik> turns out it doesn't have 64bit:(
[06:13] <iceman> help
[06:13] <shrewduser> i'm doing a dist upgrade to dapper, do i have to worry about removing anything afterwards?
[06:13] <Zoo> guy said. Sata Seagate, smokes hell out of raptors, I told him, I don't even plan to use, WD< I use me Sea only :-)
[06:13] <adventchild> slavik: is there another prgm like wine that might work?
[06:13] <slavik> adventchild: did you run it through terminal?
[06:13] <adventchild> yup
[06:13] <slavik> paste the output in terminal if any
[06:13] <Zoo> adventchild,
[06:13] <slavik> adventchild: cedega ...
[06:13] <healot> slavik, did you actuall bought the 64bit version of Sempron?
[06:13] <Zoo> CodeWeavers CrossOver, or VMware, :-)
[06:14] <slavik> it was in a alptop
[06:14] <Zoo> and then theres win4 lin, but still.. Cedega is built on wine , etc.
[06:14] <Zoo> I know becuaes I have its latest lol
[06:14] <slavik> but turns out that it is not the later version of sempron
[06:14] <racter> ok this is really tragic but is there any way to undo 'rm' in ubuntu?
[06:14] <tonyyarusso> Does Beagle index Thunderbird?
[06:14] <shrewduser> cedega is built on pre GPL wine isn't it?
[06:14] <Madpilot> racter, not easily
[06:14] <Zoo> hee
[06:14] <slavik> shrewduser: no
[06:14] <Zoo> same technology. sore of.. CodeWeavers N alll :P
[06:15] <racter> Madpilot: it doesn't have to be easy, do you have any suggestions?
[06:15] <Zoo> want me send it too ya :D
[06:15] <adventchild> slavik: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11497
[06:15] <slavik> cedega = compiled wine with tools if you buy cedega, can get the source fre though
[06:15] <Zoo> i even, converted rpm cedega, into a deb file :P
[06:15] <walden> did you do more than alien cedega*.rpm?
[06:15] <healot> they just charge th download... for cedega...
[06:15] <Zoo> nope
[06:15] <walden> heh
[06:15] <WiFi_Warri0r> anyone know how to use a usb webcam on breezy?? please help, and thank you!
[06:15] <Zoo> exactly ;)
[06:15] <healot> which doesn't violate GPL...
[06:15] <Zoo> :-)
[06:16] <slavik> adventchild: looks like the prog is not liking the environment
[06:16] <Zoo> whose violating :D
[06:16] <healot> because the source is available for paying customers
[06:16] <adventchild> ...
[06:16] <WiFi_Warri0r> anyone know how to use a usb webcam on breezy?? please help, and thank you!
[06:16] <Madpilot> racter, I've never had to recover from rm - sorry
[06:16] <slavik> healot: and non-paying
[06:16] <adventchild> !patence
[06:16] <ubotu> adventchild: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:16] <slavik> !webcam
[06:16] <ubotu> [webcam]  now easy to install, per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam - webcam support soon to be available in  gaim-vv.
[06:16] <healot> yup, slavik :)
[06:16] <sgt-dyke> seem to have usb trouble today
[06:16] <adventchild> !patience
[06:16] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Please be aware there are a lot of questions, but only maybe few who might know the answer for you. Please be patient. Your attitude may determine their willingness to help you.
[06:16] <Zoo> slavik, ,
[06:16] <bur[n] er> cafuego: u there?  wanted to tell you that the bcm43xx firmware deb works with the -386 kernel but not the -686
[06:16] <Zoo> I'm hacking VMware workstation, 5, for linux and windows hee
[06:17] <Zoo> I met couple of programmers hee
[06:17] <WiFi_Warri0r> anyone know how to use a usb webcam on breezy?? please help, and thank you!
[06:17] <slew> does anyone know if xmms has a plugin to put it in the system tray?
[06:17] <slavik> WiFi_Warri0r: pay attention
[06:17] <healot> being commercial doesn't violate GPL...
[06:17] <Zoo> at an IT convention.. civic center hee
[06:17] <adventchild> !tell WiFi_Warri0r about patience
[06:17] <healot> being PROPRIETARY is...
[06:17] <adventchild> !tell WiFi_Warri0r about webcam
[06:17] <slavik> !tell WiFi_Warri0r about webcam
[06:17] <Zoo>  slew
[06:17] <Zoo> yep
[06:18] <WiFi_Warri0r> dont tell me about patience
[06:18] <slew> Zoo, whats it called ?
[06:18] <WiFi_Warri0r> i have been patient and i still am, i just wanna give people the chance to see what im sayin in case they were away for a moment and may be able to help me, cuz their is so much chit chat in here
[06:18] <WiFi_Warri0r> :)
[06:18] <adventchild> WiFi_Warri0r, chill out dude.... there is no need for an attitude..  we are all here by our own free will...
[06:18] <WiFi_Warri0r> if it bothers you, leave
[06:18] <WiFi_Warri0r> i dont have an attitude
[06:19] <WiFi_Warri0r> i was merely stating
[06:19] <WiFi_Warri0r> :P
[06:19] <healot> we can't do anything about ungiving hardware manufacturers
[06:19] <adventchild> sounds to me like you do, even though a few of us tried to help
[06:19] <arrick> !ssh
[06:19] <ubotu> rumour has it, ssh is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdvancedOpenSSH
[06:19] <tonyyarusso> WiFi_Warri0r: A general rule of thumb is to wait ~10 between restatements of the question, as that will be a good interval for new people joining, returning, etc.
[06:19] <WiFi_Warri0r> i waited 30 seconds
[06:19] <thematrixhasyou> give
[06:19] <adventchild> ok...
[06:19] <tonyyarusso> WiFi_Warri0r: Minutes.
[06:20] <adventchild> !tell WiFi_Warri0r about webcam
[06:20] <Zoo> hold sec
[06:20] <WiFi_Warri0r> ohh...
[06:20] <Zoo> be back
[06:20] <Tallia1Kubuntu> !audacity
[06:20] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Tallia1Kubuntu
[06:20] <WiFi_Warri0r> adventchild: i have already been reading this, thanks for pointing me in the right direction tho people. sorry if i came off rude
[06:20] <WiFi_Warri0r> :)
[06:20] <slavik> WiFi_Warri0r: annoying is more like it :P
[06:21] <WiFi_Warri0r> stfu
[06:21] <kameron> hey guys.. i'm really new to scripting anything. anyways, i have a list of phone numbers, with the persons name, in a long list, saved to a file called "phone".. and i have a script that is very simple called "call.sh".. and it contains this: "cat phone | grep Andrew".. so ./call.sh will spit out Andrew's name just fine. but how can i put into the script, a user entered variable, so i can type anyones name to look it up? thanks for a
[06:21] <kameron> ny help.
[06:21] <walden> calm down man.
[06:21] <walden> just read up and get your usb webcam working:)
[06:21] <Zoo> wifi , you into Wi-Max yet :D
[06:21] <Zoo> ;)
[06:22] <Madpilot> WiFi_Warri0r, insulting people will *not* get you better help, and might get you removed from the channel...
[06:22] <slavik> kameron: msg me
[06:22] <BlueHeron> will* get you removed
[06:22] <walden> is there an aplication that lets you add/remove files to an ipod?
[06:22] <adventchild> will* get you ingnored
[06:22] <walden> *application
[06:22] <_jason> kameron: easiest way to do this is to read the bash scripting tutorial at tldp.org, but when you run ./call.sh foo bar, foo will be stored as $1 and bar as $2 and so on
[06:23] <Madpilot> walden, gtkpod (haven't used it myself, being iPod-less)
[06:23] <healot> walden, "gtkpod" and some other apps
[06:23] <walden> tonyyarusso: ty
[06:23] <walden> ty guys :)
[06:23] <kameron> _jason, good old tldp, ty
[06:23] <WiFi_Warri0r> w/e
[06:23] <walden> Madpilot: ok :) i use it mostly for a storage hdd :) but adding sme songs on occasion
[06:24] <adventchild> lost my ipod...  im so sad
[06:24] <BlueHeron> adventchild: :-(
[06:24] <healot> adventchild, it will probably be in China :)
[06:24] <Zoo> slew give me a couple mins, going have you do it manually
[06:24] <Zoo> brb
[06:24] <walden> hehe
[06:24] <slew> zoo, k thanks homie
[06:24] <Zoo> yvw
[06:24] <BlueHeron> homie! :-)
[06:24] <adventchild> :-((
[06:25] <adventchild> still have my psp tho...
[06:25] <adventchild> :-)
[06:25] <khakionion> Does anyone know of a plugin for amaroK or Gaim that will set my Gaim status to the current amaroK track?
[06:25] <healot> many stolen stuff that comes from the U.S. and Europe end up in China :0
[06:26] <adventchild> or chinatown in NYC
[06:26] <adventchild> ;-)
[06:26] <gautam> hi all!
[06:26] <healot> that too LOL
[06:26] <gautam> Can someone help me with a problem?
[06:26] <adventchild> still "China*"
[06:26] <healot> ask gautam
[06:27] <BlueHeron> gautam: shoot
[06:27] <gautam> Firefox 1.5 crashes whenever i try to load any page with embedded quicktime
[06:27] <gautam> I used easyUbuntu to load the multimedia plugins
[06:27] <walden> what is easyubuntu?
[06:27] <healot> did you installed the plugin for Qt?
[06:28] <adventchild> gautam: try updating quicktime?
[06:28] <slavik> gautam: load firefox from the terminal and pastebin the errors you get when it crashes
[06:28] <slavik> !tell walden about easyubuntu
[06:28] <Madpilot> walden, it's a script to install a bunch of stuff like multimedia codecs
[06:28] <Zoo> want to give it icon too
[06:28] <FlannelKing> walden: it's automatix, without the suck.
[06:28] <Zoo> I doing, add custom. app etc
[06:28] <blk_ice> hi, i got an ibm t30 notebook and by default my cpu freq is set to 1.2ghz instead of 2.0ghz, i've tried setting it in /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq but i get permission denied when trying to change it
[06:28] <gautam> How do i run FF from the terminal?
[06:28] <Zoo> brb slew
[06:28] <walden> oh. but i already installed those things from nerim.net.. i think.
[06:28] <Madpilot> gautam, there's a #easyubuntu channel - no idea if there'll be anyone there, though
[06:28] <walden> i'll take a look though
[06:28] <_jason> gautam: 'firefox'
[06:28] <adventchild> blk_ice, sudo?
[06:28] <gautam> ok...I'll try that now
[06:29] <blk_ice> adventchild: yes i did that
[06:29] <healot> blk_ice, is the CPU Centrino? then it's the CPU scaling is on...
[06:29] <slew> zoo take your time
[06:29] <Zoo> k lhee
[06:29] <Zoo> do you want it to run in the terminal, or, gui
[06:29] <adventchild> blk_ice, healot^^
[06:29] <blk_ice> good question, i don't think it's a centrino
[06:29] <Zoo> so far what I doin, going add it hee
[06:29] <Zoo> is that coo?
[06:29] <blk_ice> i'll check though
[06:29] <Installer36> walden>http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu
[06:29] <gautam> NP_Initialize
[06:29] <gautam> totem_plugin_new_instance
[06:29] <gautam> Init scriptable instance
[06:29] <gautam> mode 1
[06:29] <gautam> /opt/firefox/run-mozilla.sh: line 131: 10586 Segmentation fault      "$prog" ${1+"$@"}
[06:29] <gautam> gautam@ubuntu:~$ Warning: locale not supported by Xlib, locale set to C
[06:29] <gautam> that's what i get
[06:30] <healot> even Celeron D, or AMD Mobile has CPU Scaling features
[06:30] <Zoo> hell, we could even design a hot key for it hee
[06:30] <Zoo> got to luv linux :-)
[06:30] <_jason> gautam: use a pastebin please http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[06:30] <walden> Installer36: yeah, looking at it.
[06:30] <Zoo> I going make it, so, when I say, xmms, hee, its going open :P
[06:30] <blk_ice> it's a pentium 4-M chip
[06:30] <slew> zoo thats cool =] 
[06:30] <healot> if you like you CPU to run at full speed, you may want to turn off CPU scaling,,,
[06:30] <Zoo> I going have it, to where, a user can talk to his/her linux system, and the linux system, say, ya know. all kinds of stuf
[06:30] <_jason> gautam: is that when you load firefox or did you navigate to a page with quicktime after loading?
[06:30] <healot> blk_ice, that;s CENTRINO :)
[06:31] <blk_ice> oh ok
[06:31] <Zoo> giving it artificial intelligence, interactive intelligence, I not playin lol
[06:31] <Zoo> ty =] 
[06:31] <gautam> when i navigate ti a quicktime page _jason
[06:31] <blk_ice> what's the easiest way of turning off scaling, i don't need it for battery life anyways
[06:31] <Zoo> i like the equal smile
[06:31] <healot> you can turn off CPU scaling in the BIOS i think,,,,
[06:31] <walden> whoa. banshee seems to be almost perfect for the ipod :)
[06:31] <Zoo> =)
[06:31] <eno> stupid question:  how do I make a link file?
[06:31] <AngryElf> eno ln -s target
[06:31] <_jason> gautam: ls -l /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/      > pastebin
[06:31] <healot> ln <file> <link>
[06:31] <healot> or soft link with "-s"
[06:31] <Zoo> lol
[06:32] <eno> AngryElf: thanks!
[06:32] <Zoo> just added xmms, as an icon, and onto my task bar, system tray hee
[06:32] <AngryElf> i gotta get the easy ones when i can
[06:32] <slavik> !pstebin
[06:32] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, slavik
[06:32] <slavik> !pastebin
[06:32] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[06:32] <Zoo> hey slew
[06:32] <WiFi_Warri0r> hmm
[06:32] <Zoo> is bar okay lol
[06:32] <WiFi_Warri0r> for some reason it wont let me edit sources.list
[06:32] <MarioGamboa> hi all
[06:32] <WiFi_Warri0r> :()
[06:32] <AngryElf> WiFi_Warri0r, as root?
[06:33] <slew> Zoo you rawxorz
[06:33] <Zoo> ?
[06:33] <Zoo> :-)
[06:33] <Zoo> linux easy :P
[06:33] <WiFi_Warri0r> ohh ill try as root
[06:33] <Zoo> sometimes.. I beat myself up over simple things
[06:33] <MarioGamboa> how i can make a connection via ssh to a remote pc and the user see all i make like vnc
[06:33] <MarioGamboa> ?
[06:33] <Zoo> k, what were going do is..
[06:33] <_jason> gautam: oops, you said firefox1.5.  Are you using breezy?
[06:33] <Zoo> okay I know what you want to do.. make it so its not running in tray eh
[06:33] <Zoo> o.o 1 min
[06:33] <eno> is is stupid to point an apache server to something in directory in ~ for any reason?
[06:34] <Madpilot> WiFi_Warri0r, use "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[06:34] <gautam> Yes
[06:34] <adventchild> _jason: for the program i am trying to install, its asking 'install to'...  would that be like /media/hda1/*?
[06:34] <gautam> I'm using breesy
[06:34] <WiFi_Warri0r> ty madpilot
[06:34] <gautam> I updated to 1.5
[06:34] <healot> maybe... but if it's the rc script, that would be fine
[06:34] <gautam> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11499
[06:34] <Zoo> hm, me think how to get it to run in background invisible :-)
[06:34] <Zoo> slew you still here?
[06:35] <_jason> adventchild: is this for wine?
[06:35] <adventchild> _jason: the default is C:\blah blah blah
[06:35] <slew> zoo yeah
[06:35] <Zoo> you can change that though
[06:35] <phiber_optic> how can I kill a process... I tried kill process name but it still there
[06:35] <slavik> add & after the command?
[06:35] <Zoo> :-)
[06:35] <Zoo> thats just fake C
[06:35] <JAyRULE> damn!  ubuntu is frustrating..
[06:35] <adventchild> _jason: ya....  i know you dont know about wine, but is that where you would install anything to your hd?
[06:35] <Zoo> not really easy for users to work with files, etc there running apps like what i run, filetopia :-)
[06:35] <slavik> phiber_optic: ps -A |grep processname
[06:35] <slavik> then kill pid
[06:35] <_jason> gautam: ok I need 'ls -l /opt/firefox/plugins' then, sorry
[06:35] <Zoo> adventchild,
[06:36] <FlannelKing> JAyRULE: no, it's just new to you.
[06:36] <Zoo> you can install to... home /
[06:36] <AngryElf> let's say logging in hangs up, and i press crtl alt F1 and get a prompt. How do i kill all activity at the original screen so that i can clear up the problem and try to log in again? Without rebooting
[06:36] <gautam> sure _jason, Just a sec
[06:36] <Zoo> thats what i Do , I, created, /home/zoo/wine for example
[06:36] <slavik>  /opt
[06:36] <phiber_optic> slavik thats what I did but I can kill the process firefox <defunct>
[06:36] <Zoo> install all my win apps inthere tc
[06:36] <Zoo> etc
[06:36] <adventchild> Zoo, ty
[06:36] <JAyRULE> FlannelKing: ahha...
[06:36] <blk_ice> problem fixed, i installed cpufreqd
[06:36] <Zoo> well, I only run Filetopia on linu, and win. so
[06:36] <Zoo> yeah it be cool m8
[06:36] <Zoo> wine creates that C , in / anyways
[06:36] <Zoo> creates it like hidden biatch too
[06:37] <_jason> I wish I had a windows app I wanted to run so I could try wine... maybe I'll try photoshop one day
[06:37] <Zoo> kind of tricky to work with too
[06:37] <JAyRULE> FlannelKing: tell me this.. whats the difference between "add applications" and "synaptic package manager"?
[06:37] <Zoo> so, I advice, just install files, change dir, :))
[06:37] <adventchild> Zoo,  the one problem is that i dont have an ok button...  just a cancel one...
[06:37] <Zoo> oh lol
[06:37] <JAyRULE> FlannelKing: seems like in both, i can add and remove programs
[06:37] <gautam> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11500
[06:37] <FlannelKing> JAyRULE: "add applications" is simplified interface, with selected packages.
[06:37] <Zoo> see thats the thing, not all windows apps behave great on wine emulation
[06:37] <FlannelKing> JAyRULE: it's more newbie friendly, synaptic is a superset of Add applications.
[06:37] <Zoo> I would suggest, maybe you gettin into VMware workstation for linux m8
[06:37] <adventchild> idk...  i think i need another freeware prgm...
[06:38] <eno> I found out the right way to od it
[06:38] <phiber_optic> anyone an idea how to kill firefox <defunct>?
[06:38] <JAyRULE> FlannelKing: more newbie friendly.. but i cant add shit...
[06:38] <Zoo> I was running wine back when I first tired Mandrake linux for the first time, 10.0 it was, 2 years ago. this spring :-)
[06:38] <JAyRULE> FlannelKing: ahha
[06:38] <blk_ice> vlc
[06:38] <JAyRULE> FlannelKing: ie xmms
[06:38] <blk_ice> oops sory
[06:38] <iceman> help getting java to work please
[06:38] <Zoo> then I heard about Xandros, and it had, CodeWeavers CrossOver pRofessional, Professional wine let me tell ya, and then it went from there< I got involved with other things
[06:38] <adventchild> fedora 5 is the new RH right?
[06:39] <Zoo> its not worth it m8
[06:39] <_jason> gunne: ok, first you are going to do me a favor and do 'dpkg -S /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/libtotem_mozilla.so' and give me the output please.  Then you can solve your problem with 'sudo rm /opt/firefox/plugins/libtotem_mozilla.*'
[06:39] <iceman> why cant i get java to work ? help
[06:39] <Zoo> yeah, its supported REd hat linux basically, community supported, anaconda installer yada yada, rpm base, real nice, but eh, too slow for me
[06:39] <FlannelKing> JAyRULE: right, so use synaptic.  Add Applications is specific applications that are suggested to users who don't really know "what" they want, they just want "to play videos" without preference for speciifc applications
[06:39] <Zoo> but thats just me adventchild ,
[06:39] <shrewduser> iceman: whats the prob?
[06:39] <adventchild> brb...  gonna try to get my prgm working Zoo
[06:39] <Zoo> latest 1, good Hardware detection I Might add
[06:40] <Zoo> what are you trying install
[06:40] <Zoo> you ever heard of CodeWeavers CrossOver m8?
[06:40] <adventchild> i heard that there is currently no driver support for fedora 5
[06:40] <iceman> shrewduser it seemed to install but i cant get java to work
[06:40] <Zoo> ---> www.codeweavers.com
[06:40] <Zoo> visit that site
[06:40] <adventchild> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11497
[06:40] <adventchild> brb
[06:40] <shrewduser> iceman: what seems to install, and want cant you get to work?
[06:40] <JAyRULE> FlannelKing: but when i go to synaptic.. it has a million different ones for xmms...
[06:40] <DaS> healot and adventchild: Just want to let you know that I just got my wireless card working. Thanks for getting me off to the right start.
[06:40] <Zoo> rpm too slow for me m8, I prefer debian when it comes to linux systems, but in the next year, I'll be taking any kernel I want, the drivers, the packages, and making my own linux build system,
[06:40] <JAyRULE> FlannelKing: i guess ill just go thru each one... but damn...
[06:40] <iceman> Java apps ... like runescape
[06:41] <healot> DaS, recommended for you to document it for future references
[06:41] <shrewduser> iceman: what happens when you try to run?
[06:41] <Zoo> my own installer, My own A.I. System etc.. :)
[06:41] <sgt-dyke> what the way to log as root...
[06:41] <Zoo> I, am not" going play :)
[06:41] <arrick> hey guys, how do I ssh from here over the inernet, I figured it out using putty, bu booted to ubuntu?
[06:41] <Zoo> sgt-dyke, ,
[06:41] <Zoo> -->     sudo su -
[06:41] <arrick> _jason, ^^
[06:41] <DaS> healot: I will
[06:41] <iceman> shrewduserjust tells me im missing the java plug in .. i downloaded ... ran the installer ...
[06:41] <Zoo> then you'll be root :P.. or if you want, from logon, you can go into hold sec
[06:41] <Zoo> login manger etc
[06:41] <JAyRULE> FlannelKing: ima try to get pureftpd running first.. just installed it and im getting errors...
[06:42] <_jason> arrick: in a terminal 'ssh user@host'
[06:42] <phiber_optic> anyone an idea how to kill firefox <defunct>?
[06:42] <sgt-dyke> because... some prog always tell me that i can do that because i'm not root.....
[06:42] <arrick> ok thanks
[06:42] <shrewduser> iceman: make sure you have installed the JRE
[06:42] <zezu> anyone know how to get SDL to use a driver other than x11 ?
[06:42] <_jason> arrick: and if you have X forwarding on the server you can do ssh -X, then run X apps
[06:42] <AngryElf> sgt-dyke, sudo -i
[06:42] <Zoo> sgt
[06:42] <healot> OpenGL... zezu ?
[06:42] <sgt-dyke> yeah Zoo but if i want to be permenantly the root
[06:42] <Zoo> login window preferences, you can change it
[06:43] <Zoo> eh
[06:43] <iceman> it ran through all the files and said done ...
[06:43] <zezu> SDL
[06:43] <Zoo> I wouldn't encourage that always, you can always get into full root, in termin, even in user account
[06:43] <zezu> I dont have hardware opengl support
[06:43] <kartik> !can i write windows over linux????
[06:43] <zezu> crap ati drivers
[06:43] <ubotu> kartik: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:43] <sgt-dyke> thanx.... zoo
[06:43] <Zoo> ---> example.. zoo@ubuntu:~# sudo su -
[06:43] <shrewduser> iceman: but what does it say when you try to launch a java app?
[06:43] <zezu> i want to use the "ati" driver which is the open source one, but has ok 2d support
[06:43] <Zoo> -->   zoo@ubuntu:~# password
[06:44] <Zoo> etc
[06:44] <Zoo> then you'll go to  like this
[06:44] <healot> faking the su :)
[06:44] <kartik> can i write windows over linux????plz help
[06:44] <iceman> just says click here to download plugin
[06:44] <arrick> _jason, how to do a remote desktop connection?
[06:44] <Zoo> -->  root@ubuntu:~#
[06:44] <Zoo> lol
[06:44] <Zoo> you want to.. erase hard drive full, with great firmware, :?
[06:44] <AngryElf> zezu, have you tried ati's version?
[06:44] <Madpilot> iceman, have you read the Java page in the wiki?
[06:45] <healot> if you have   working fglrx or nvidia glx working, you can use the OpenGL video driver...
[06:45] <Zoo> i recommend, winternals, etc, ubcd and the manufactures firmware :-) all data will be gone, even gov style ya want :-)
[06:45] <zezu> AngryElf, fglrx ? its absolute horseshit
[06:45] <healot> zezu,
[06:45] <zezu> it doesn't work here
[06:45] <zezu> at all
[06:45] <zezu> period
[06:45] <adventchild> winternals...  hehehe
[06:45] <Zoo> lol
[06:45] <iceman> Madpilot reading suns instructions
[06:45] <Zoo> well yeah
[06:45] <Zoo> i"m an IT engineer... :P
[06:45] <Madpilot> !tell iceman about java
[06:45] <Madpilot> !enter
[06:45] <phiber_optic> is there a way to force kill something?
[06:45] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[06:45] <zezu> and believe me, i'd attempted it many many many times
[06:45] <healot> kartik, you meant "write file to FAT32/NTFS" partition in Linux?
[06:45] <Zoo> hey adventchild
[06:45] <AngryElf> zezu it's rockin my box right now
[06:45] <zezu> AngryElf, its still crap
[06:45] <adventchild> Zoo, hey
[06:45] <zezu> it works for some people yes
[06:46] <adventchild> lol
[06:46] <zezu> but it does not work here
[06:46] <_jason> arrick: enable in system . prefs > remote desktop, then use vncviewer
[06:46] <kartik> healot:ya
[06:46] <healot> kill -9 PID... phiber_optic
[06:46] <AngryElf> zezu i found a great how to for it
[06:46] <arrick> ok
[06:46] <iceman> some one fixed ubotu ... thank god .. theres our little friend
[06:46] <zezu> anyways the target platform for what i'm writing is actually linux w/ no X
[06:46] <healot> change the PId with some number you see from the "ps" output
[06:46] <_jason> arrick: although ssh -X is basically remote desktop
[06:46] <adventchild> whats up Zoo
[06:46] <zezu> and on an intel 865 chipset
[06:46] <zezu> so i dont know how good of opengl support i can get w/ that
[06:46] <arrick> ok
[06:46] <Zoo> I am going be taking, VMware Workstation 5, for windows, and linux, and using TEchSmith Camtaisia, and showing users how to install ubuntu, and how to configure it, and how to install applications. and how to modify their systems, same thing I Do with windows.. any person in the world can watch whatever video/audio format I put it in
[06:46] <zezu> does gl even work w/o X ?
[06:46] <healot> kartik, for starter writing to NTFS is impossible with the default kernel drivers...
[06:46] <AngryElf> you've got to creat the .deb packages
[06:47] <healot> however with some unofficial tools, you can...
[06:47] <phiber_optic> healot I cant kill an application its PID is 16954, its firefox <defunct>
[06:47] <AngryElf> from the ati installer
[06:47] <Zoo> it goes beyond reading and chat explation, I gurantee it swear to you
[06:47] <zezu> AngryElf, believe me i've gone more into detail than you w/ that
[06:47] <phiber_optic> Im trying to kill it but it doesnt work :(
[06:47] <Zoo> :)
[06:47] <zezu> I have the debs sitting here created already
[06:47] <zezu> i've recompiled my kernel
[06:47] <zezu> i've bypassed agpgart
[06:47] <kartik> healot:so what should i di??plz help
[06:47] <AngryElf> :(
[06:47] <healot> but writing to FAT32 parition is possible by adding the option "rw" in the "mount" command or in the "fstab" file
[06:47] <zezu> i've manually edited the kernel source and rebuilt
[06:47] <zezu> it just doesn't work
[06:47] <adventchild> Zoo, huh?
[06:47] <healot> phiber_optic, kill -9...
[06:48] <zezu> constant mtrr errors and DRI will never initialize
[06:48] <Zoo> adventchild,
[06:48] <zezu> so
[06:48] <phiber_optic> yeah thats what I did
[06:48] <healot> try a few times...
[06:48] <tkup> phiber_optic, you have to kill its parent ppid
[06:48] <zezu> back to the original question
[06:48] <adventchild> Zoo, sry...  been a very long day
[06:48] <Zoo> http://www.vmware.com    http://www.techsmith.com
[06:48] <Zoo> you'll get the idea lol
[06:48] <phiber_optic> tkup, how do I do that?
[06:48] <zezu> anyone know how i can get crappy SDL to use a less crappy driver than x11 ?
[06:48] <iceman> what current j2re1.4 is dead link in apt-get
[06:48] <adventchild> brb
[06:48] <zezu> i can't get more than 25fps @ 1024x768
[06:48] <tkup> phiber_optic, ps -elf | grep firefox-bin the pid that's next to the pid is the ppid
[06:48] <Zoo> I know I can also use, xvidcap, but I have more powerful tools with TechSmith Camtasia Studio, I started with 2.1, then 3 . something then 3.1 latest :-)
[06:48] <Madpilot> iceman, you can't install Sun Java thru apt-get
[06:49] <healot> kartik, hum... output your "/etc/fstab" file to pastebin... if you like to have the partition automount
[06:49] <adventchild> ah
[06:49] <tkup> phiber_optic, it should be numerically close to the pid
[06:49] <healot> or you can "man mount" for further information
[06:49] <healot> !paste
[06:49] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[06:49] <phiber_optic> it doesnt appear tkup :(
[06:49] <adventchild> Zoo, planing on making some $$$?
[06:49] <Zoo> Madpilot, , althought it could be reverse engineered and done.. anything is possible
[06:49] <Zoo> :-)
[06:49] <Madpilot> Zoo, not legally, it couldn't
[06:49] <adventchild> Zoo, try dribbling a football
[06:49] <tkup> phiber_optic, can you paste on pastebin the output of ps -elf | grep firefox?
[06:49] <Zoo> we traveled to the dam moon, we can do anything on linux lol
[06:50] <adventchild> :-P
[06:50] <healot> phiber_optic, or worse "sudo killall firefox"
[06:50] <Zoo> oh yeah, not legally, how long would last :) think sun would snap eh
[06:50] <JAyRULE> how come i can "su" from a terminal so i can act as root?
[06:50] <slavik> Zoo: the ones who went there are dead for the most part
[06:50] <Zoo> well thats what my instructors thought alot about what i told them, and what I proved
[06:50] <Zoo> :-)
[06:50] <tkup> healot, that wouldn't kill it either
[06:50] <slavik> JAyRULE: use sudo
[06:50] <JAyRULE> oops..
[06:50] <healot> reverse engineering is possible though, but please, Mark didn't do that because he has to comply with Sun's Java license
[06:50] <slavik> reverse engineer what?
[06:51] <healot> tkup, do it few more time... kill -9 or kill -15
[06:51] <Zoo> seems how 1 day , mysteriously their network images for the OS pre excuteable environments, eh, I deleted couple administrative passwords.. good ole winternals :)
[06:51] <healot> or the worst you can do "restart X" :)
[06:51] <phiber_optic> tkup I already pasted
[06:51] <adventchild> reverse engineer an alien death ray? COOL!
[06:51] <tkup> phiber_optic, do you have a link?
[06:51] <kartik> healot:where do i find that /etc/stab file
[06:51] <Zoo> lol no, I think with vision, and reality
[06:51] <phiber_optic> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11501
[06:51] <slavik> adventchild: I'd point it at earth and press the fire button :P
[06:51] <Zoo> I Just ask God, to help me have a great vision, and design with my A.I. system
[06:51] <healot> that's the full path, kartik
[06:52] <slavik> zoo, I had a dream once ... where I designed a true AI
[06:52] <healot> "/etc/fstab"
[06:52] <tkup> phiber_optic, killall -9 17518
[06:52] <healot> or type "man fstab" for more info
[06:52] <Zoo> learning how the operating system works, eh, nothing.. understanding how it works , eh still nothing, designing A.I. systems. hee fun fun fun
[06:52] <slavik> he went on the net and took over the world ...
[06:52] <tkup> but it could log you off the shell, but it's ok anyway
[06:52] <Zoo> thats cool smile :)
[06:52] <phiber_optic> killall -9 17518
[06:52] <phiber_optic> 17518: no process killed
[06:52] <slavik> Zoo: get a lego mindstorm kit ;)
[06:52] <adventchild> slavik: same here, but you need to make sure you have a stable source of food and fuel to look for a suitable replacement planet
[06:52] <Zoo> I"m actualy gearing towards. world wide communication etc. and A.I.
[06:52] <Zoo> lol
[06:52] <healot> killall takes a string argument... :)
[06:53] <slavik> adventchild: I don't want that ;)
[06:53] <Zoo> nah I'm cool :_)
[06:53] <healot> "killall -9 firefox" for example
[06:53] <tkup> phiber_optic, sorry meant kill -9 17518
[06:53] <adventchild> slavik, just you and people that you choose...  start over with you as Pres...
[06:53] <adventchild> lol
[06:53] <phiber_optic> tkup done... but when I do ps -e
[06:53] <phiber_optic> its still there the process
[06:53] <slavik> adventchild: king ... I get to have every woman who wants to get married
[06:54] <slavik> should stop marriages that way :P
[06:54] <adventchild> lmao
[06:54] <slavik> and who says I would leave the planet?
[06:54] <Madpilot> !offtopic
[06:54] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[06:54] <slavik> nobody wuld
[06:54] <tkup> phiber_optic, do now killall -9 firefox-bin
[06:54] <slavik> would*
[06:54] <adventchild> sorry Madpilot
[06:54] <adventchild> lol
[06:54] <healot> off you go :)
[06:54] <tkup> phiber_optic, what is exactly there when you do ps -e?
[06:54] <slavik> Madpilot: I am sorry, but this channel can't be run like a tech support place
[06:54] <Zoo> ubotu, ever heard someone say, geesh, I have to get some fresh air... :-)
[06:54] <ubotu> Zoo: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[06:55] <iceman> c r a p still can not get java working
[06:55] <phiber_optic> 16901 ?        00:00:00 pickup
[06:55] <phiber_optic> 16954 ?        00:00:00 firefox <defunct>
[06:55] <phiber_optic> 17284 ?        00:00:00 sh
[06:55] <Zoo> did ya say, tech support palace, or ubuntu palace eh :P
[06:55] <adventchild> !pastebin
[06:55] <slavik> ubotu, you're useless
[06:55] <ubotu> somebody said pastebin was http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[06:55] <ubotu> slavik: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:55] <slavik> seth: :D
[06:55] <healot> !javadebs
[06:55] <adventchild> ubotu, you are the smartest bot here
[06:55] <Madpilot> slavik, um, this channel *is* a tech support place - that's why we have -offtopic as well
[06:55] <ubotu> adventchild: I think you lost me on that one
[06:55] <adventchild> lol
[06:55] <Zoo> lol
[06:55] <adventchild> exactly
[06:56] <Zoo> A.I... you got alot farther to go ubotu  :)
[06:56] <seth> slavik, ?
[06:56] <iceman> w t heck ... help in java install
[06:56] <healot> Java can be found in multiverse. Sun (i386) debs here: http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl IBM (PPC) debs here: http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy.  UNOFFICIAL debs of more recent JRE's can be found in Seveas's repositories.  See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[06:56] <tkup> phiber_optic, did you start firefox from the current shell on the terminal?
[06:56] <adventchild> ubotu, ever heard of sarcasim?
[06:56] <Zoo> your 1% there :)
[06:56] <ubotu> adventchild: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:56] <Zoo> ;)
[06:56] <phiber_optic> nop
[06:56] <tkup> phiber_optic, do pkill firefox
[06:56] <phiber_optic> i started from the panel
[06:56] <Zoo> k all, I going to get something to drink.. :-)
[06:56] <adventchild> Zoo get me a drink too
[06:57] <adventchild> lol
[06:57] <Madpilot> iceman, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-e2ebd70ede0e3eb2117ffbd618d2295dd1540dca
[06:57] <xanavim> when my wireless-essid in /etc/network/interfaces is set to the proper wireless hub on boot time, I get a wireless network connection.  but if it isn't set on boot and I change it later, sometimes I don't ever get a connection until I reboot.  is there a way to prevent this?  this is on breezy/i386
[06:57] <Zoo> I will.. I"ll get a round for the whole entire channel, etc.. hang out.. and especially 1 for ubotu :-)
[06:57] <adventchild> !wireless
[06:57] <ubotu> [wireless]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers
[06:57] <phiber_optic> tkup, its still there
[06:57] <Zoo> adventchild,
[06:57] <tkup> phiber_optic, you're gonna have to pastebin 'ps -elf' :/
[06:57] <adventchild> Zoo,
[06:57] <iceman> madpilot the fakeroot fails
[06:57] <Zoo> anyone can actually write there own drivers, you just have to know what to do, information I tell ya information :D
[06:58] <Zoo> ;)
[06:58] <Zoo> windows just makes a nice pretty installer :P
[06:58] <Zoo> syke :D
[06:58] <Zoo> :)
[06:58] <adventchild> yup...  drivers are easy from what i hear...  2 parts 6 lines each
[06:58] <phiber_optic> hold on tkup
[06:58] <Zoo> lol
[06:58] <Madpilot> iceman, those instructions do work - I just used them on a friend's new Ubuntu machine...
[06:58] <Zoo> well, my problem is.. 2 years ago I didn't know jack crap :D
[06:58] <iceman> iceman@icebox:~/java$ sudo jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin
[06:58] <iceman> sudo: jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin: command not found
[06:58] <iceman> iceman@icebox:~/java$
[06:58] <Zoo> about linux that is :-)
[06:58] <adventchild> i still dont know jack about linux
[06:59] <Zoo> 2 1/2 :-)
[06:59] <iceman> and the jre file is in that directory
[06:59] <Zoo> well.. reading, is great
[06:59] <adventchild> no
[06:59] <Zoo> applying the concepts of your choice, gets you places
[06:59] <adventchild> reading sucks, but the outcome is great
[06:59] <Madpilot> iceman, sudo is not fakeroot - please go re-read that URL
[06:59] <Zoo> well I won' tsay, reading is great, but you can benefity from it,
[06:59] <Madpilot> Zoo and adventchild: #ubuntu-offtopic, please
[06:59] <Zoo> I'm just going make it easier, for people with TechSmith Camtasia Studio, and using Vmware, to show people how to install ubuntu, the firendl system :P
[07:00] <healot> iceman, it's "./<filename>" to run the Sun' JDK/JRE installer, if the file is on the current directory
[07:00] <iceman> sudo apt-get install fakeroot java-package java-common and i get error
[07:00] <Zoo> adventchild, , the whole open source world, will claim me king for tech support :-)
[07:00] <iceman> iceman@icebox:~/java$ sudo apt-get install fakeroot java-package java-common
[07:00] <iceman> Reading package lists... Done
[07:00] <iceman> Building dependency tree... Done
[07:00] <iceman> E: Couldn't find package java-package
[07:00] <iceman> iceman@icebox:~/java$
[07:00] <Madpilot> !info java-package
[07:00] <ubotu> java-package: (utility for building Java(TM) 2 related Debian packages), section multiverse/misc, is optional. Version: 0.26 (breezy), Packaged size: 20 kB, Installed size: 308 kB
[07:00] <adventchild> apt-get install fakeroot *
[07:00] <_jason> iceman: stop pasting and enable multiverse --read the page
[07:00] <adventchild> !pastebin
[07:00] <ubotu> somebody said pastebin was http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[07:00] <Madpilot> iceman, you probably don't have Multiverse enabled
[07:01] <healot> iceman, and expand your repos first... and no pasting in the main channel
[07:01] <healot> !paste
[07:01] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[07:01] <Zoo> apt-get install I like it in here, its where it said to come :-)
[07:01] <Zoo> apt-get install ^_^
[07:01] <iceman> one reason linux can not go main line and stomp windows to the dirt is this stupid command line bull that gets you lost
[07:01] <adventchild> aptitude install
[07:01] <adventchild> hey
[07:01] <Zoo> not true
[07:02] <Zoo> its because people are afraid of teaching themselves something else, that sometimes they get overwhelmed becuase they are scared of learning something new :-)
[07:02] <adventchild> iceman, cmd line is what makes linux so good... and i made the switch knowing nothing about linux
[07:02] <Mitja> How do I make the value in /proc/sys/kernel/shmmax permanent?
[07:02] <healot> iceman, there is "Synaptic" for eye candy GUI
[07:02] <phiber_optic> tkup, i already posted
[07:02] <Xnos> someone uses intel pro wireless 3945 drivers?
[07:02] <Zoo> adventchild, ,
[07:02] <Zoo> what if I told you, I could make it, to where you could tell your linux system , windows sytem what to do,
[07:02] <_jason> iceman: you can install java using only synaptic if you want, it will however be harder to help you through the process
[07:03] <iceman> command line is great ... but the general purpose apps just like java plug in should be point click install ... go
[07:03] <Zoo> I already can, I am just fine tuning things , for people world wide, and then, market it..
[07:03] <MEagain> please help :( How do I play a wmv that is streamed??
[07:03] <healot> Xnos, no native linux driver for that yet.... you need "ndiswrapper"
[07:03] <healot> !ndiswrapper
[07:03] <ubotu> ndiswrapper is, like, totally, a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[07:03] <MEagain> I tried the Mplayer but the files are 404
[07:03] <Zoo> its a drive hack is all it is
[07:03] <kartik> can i remove linux and reinstall windows xp????????????plz help??
[07:03] <chenjf> MEagain: that is not a problem of mplayer
[07:03] <Zoo> driver hack etc
[07:03] <Zoo> :-)
[07:03] <adventchild> Zoo, i would say you are about to make lots of $$
[07:03] <Zoo> kartik,
[07:03] <tkup> phiber_optic, url please
[07:03] <Zoo> yep lol
[07:03] <healot> kartik, just pop on you Windows XP CD
[07:03] <Zoo> already make, some :-)
[07:04] <tkup> phiber_optic, ok got it
[07:04] <iceman> wow 18 minute on a 3 meg pipe to download the entire java package
[07:04] <Zoo> kartik, ,
[07:04] <MEagain> I am aware chenjf that is why I came to the this room
[07:04] <Xnos> healot... currently theres is a project... i use now.. but i have some issues
[07:04] <Zoo> download , ultimate boot cd, and use Active @ Kill Disk, or your, hard drive manufactures firmware
[07:04] <Madpilot> iceman, blame Sun for that - if Ubuntu could provide Java by default, they probably would...
[07:04] <Zoo> I gurantee ya, I got sofware, I could recover the linux sytem lol files, I promise :-)
[07:04] <chenjf> MEagain: 404 mean can't find the file. you should check if the URL is correct
[07:04] <tkup> phiber_optic, pkill wish
[07:04] <_jason> iceman: you can always use blackdown, that's already available to you
[07:04] <Zoo> see, 1 thing you can experience with overwriting file systes, etc, with just the OS format, is that, data is not completely overwrote yet :-)
[07:04] <MEagain> chenjf, sorry I thought you were being sarcastic... The stream is there it is the MPlayer files that are missing from the repos
[07:05] <healot> issues? Xnos, please report any bugs/suggestion to the team
[07:05] <Xnos> healot... the wifi comes ang goes at 4 seconds laps
[07:05] <arrick> hey I am trying to use vncviewer, and I caVNC authentication failed and cant get the authentication to accept any suggestions?
[07:05] <phiber_optic> what is wish?
[07:05] <Zoo> kartik,
[07:05] <iceman> Madpiot cant someone create a install script of some type to handle the plug in installs
[07:05] <Zoo> do you use skype
[07:05] <kartik> zoo:so can i remove linux completely and install windows xp
[07:05] <nto_> !java
[07:05] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[07:05] <phiber_optic> it just killed my amsn
[07:05] <Zoo> yes
[07:05] <healot> Java's license will taint ubuntu's distribution I think
[07:05] <adventchild> i have the ultimate boot disk for window$...  lol....   win98
[07:05] <Zoo> you can erase your hard drive full, using great firmware, etc..
[07:05] <tkup> phiber_optic, apparently amsn doesn't start/terminate firefox properly. Amsn uses wish. so if you kill wish you kill your amsn session :(
[07:05] <chenjf> MEagain: all right,you means you can't install mplayer from the ubuntu repos?
[07:05] <adventchild> 3.1 too
[07:05] <Zoo> ultimate boot cd, was wrote from linux etc... insert
[07:05] <phiber_optic> tkup thanx
[07:05] <MEagain> chenjf, correct
[07:06] <tkup> phiber_optic, didn't mean to :/
[07:06] <phiber_optic> at least know its killed and I know
[07:06] <Zoo> firmware, hacking software and hardware lol
[07:06] <sgt-dyke> hey hey it's me again...
[07:06] <phiber_optic> dont worry
[07:06] <Zoo> and winternals hee, it just hacks bypasses everything lol
[07:06] <Zoo> kartik,
[07:06] <chenjf> MEagain: the offical ubuntu repos doesn't insclude mplayer due to the license issue
[07:06] <iceman> some one should create installer scripts for java and the plug in's
[07:06] <tkup> phiber_optic, I used to have this problem and started copy/pasting the URL instead of clicking it in the amsn chat window
[07:06] <phiber_optic> tkup do u know why everytime my cpu is alternating even when Im iddle?
[07:06] <Madpilot> iceman, there's the java debs that have been created
[07:06] <Zoo> do you want to get into defensive, IT software base... ?
[07:06] <Madpilot> !tell iceman about javadebs
[07:06] <MEagain> so nobody in ubuntu can see a wmv ?
[07:07] <adventchild> !tripwire
[07:07] <ubotu> adventchild: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:07] <Zoo> in the terms of, forensics, not being able to use hardware to get it back :D
[07:07] <tkup> phiber_optic, how bad?
[07:07] <_jason> MEagain: mplayer with w32codecs
[07:07] <healot> in Windows land they call it "tweak" :)
[07:07] <tkup> phiber_optic, and how often
[07:07] <chenjf> MEagain: no,you can google for the mplayer ubuntu package
[07:07] <Zoo> healot, , I am windows users as well, developer :)
[07:07] <Madpilot> Zoo, please take the non-Ubuntu chat to -offtopic - thanks
[07:07] <arrick>  vncviewer 69.37.206.180:0 is what I am typing trying to access remote desktop, any help?
[07:07] <phiber_optic> it goest to 20 % almost 30 %
[07:07] <healot> iceman, that's where "make-jpkg" comes from
[07:07] <_jason> arrick: did you enable it server side?
[07:07] <MEagain> did that chenjf but when I try to install is
[07:07] <sgt-dyke> have another question for you...   i mount my usb mp3 player... i can read and  copy...   but i can't write on it....  anyone have an idea
[07:07] <MEagain> nevermind
[07:07] <Zoo> i use it for my cad 3d modeling software, rhino3d, maxon, etc, other things, filetopia :-) ubuntu just my play toy as well :-)
[07:07] <MEagain> have a good night everyone
[07:07] <tkup> phiber_optic, paste here the output of 'uptime'
[07:07] <arrick> ley me make sure
[07:07] <phiber_optic> tkup do u think its gdesklets that makes htis happen?
[07:08] <healot> Zoo, I am just a network manager on both worlds...
[07:08] <Nrbelex> Hi, I just set up a server and I'm trying to find or set up my access log files. How do I do that?
[07:08] <[chris] > !random
[07:08] <Zoo> yeah , ya told me :-)
[07:08] <healot> development is way not my job :)
[07:08] <phiber_optic> uptime
[07:08] <phiber_optic>  01:08:19 up 2 days,  6:16,  3 users,  load average: 0.53, 0.47, 0.54
[07:08] <Zoo> I"m also a Dj, yeah, what ever drives us .. eh :-)
[07:08] <phiber_optic> what does it mean 3 users? Im the only one connected
[07:08] <tkup> phiber_optic, it could be many things but looking at your ps -elf output you're running a lot of processes (httpd, mysql, sshd, etc)
[07:08] <Zoo> lol
[07:09] <healot> you got other tty on, phiber_optic ?
[07:09] <carthik> Nrbelex, in general, $dkpg -L <package-name> will show you the files installed by a package, so do that for the server you installed, and find the log file's location
[07:09] <kartik> i had windows xp and windows 98 before installing xp but after intalling linux over windows 98 i even lost windows xp???how to get back window xp???????????????
[07:09] <Zoo> oh okay
[07:09] <phiber_optic> is tty terminal?
[07:09] <healot> so-called "TERMINAL"
[07:09] <tkup> phiber_optic, every time you start a terminal it associates itself with a virtual terminal, which it counts as a user
[07:09] <adventchild> !hug
 gives adventchild a hug.  There, there, is that better?
[07:09] <healot> yes, the terminals
[07:09] <Zoo> what you should do is.. use Acronis Disk Direct Suite m8, and you can recover your boot loader , and get into that system?
[07:09] <phiber_optic> ohh yeahh.. i got 2 terminals
[07:09] <Zoo> oh okay
[07:10] <adventchild> !kick adventchild
[07:10] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, adventchild
[07:10] <Nrbelex> carthik - I should have been more specific - I'm looking for Apache log files and I'm not sure where they go - I know where the installed files are
[07:10] <healot> I have two terminal on, and one is me... then 3 users :)
[07:10] <adventchild> hm...
[07:10] <Zoo> want to talk in skype, because Madpilot , seems to have a problem with users helping other nice users :-)
[07:10] <tkup> phiber_optic, the first one is when you login into gnome
[07:10] <phiber_optic> ooohh okk .. thanxxx
[07:10] <phiber_optic> so do u think its because of all the process that Im running that thats why it fluctates to often?
[07:10] <carthik> Nrbelex, they will be in /var/log/ (httpd or apache2 or apache)
[07:10] <phiber_optic> Im also running gdesklets!!
[07:10] <Zoo> kartik, , I could also send you, ONtrack Recovery Pro 6 multilanguage bootable iso bud :-)
[07:11] <xdasx> Rock on
[07:11] <tkup> phiber_optic, you can turn off unwanted services from /etc/init.d/<service name> start/stop/restart etc. example, /etc/init.d/mysql stop
[07:11] <Mitja> How do I make shmmax value permanent?
[07:11] <Zoo> its a great feeling, knowing your in control of your system, :-)
[07:11] <phiber_optic> tkup so how do I know which process runs everytime, etc etc
[07:11] <kevogod> It is a great feeling, you know, after you've taken a big dump.
[07:12] <Zoo> funny thing is, people on the net, think they in control of other people. eh.. they can think that about a few.. only a few :-)
[07:12] <sgt-dyke> have another question for you...   i mount my usb mp3 player... i can read file and  copy existhing on the hardrive...   but i can't write new mp3on it....  anyone have an idea
[07:12] <tkup> phiber_optic, fluctuations could be due to some python programs python /usr/lib/gdesklets/gdesklets-daemon. so you're right it could be the desklets
[07:12] <tkup> phiber_optic, run 'top' from the terminal and monitor
[07:13] <phiber_optic> in order to stop mysql do I have to be root?
[07:13] <Nrbelex> Apache only intalls a few things into usr/share/doc and I can't find the access log in there
[07:13] <Nrbelex> *installs
[07:13] <tkup> phiber_optic, yes or sudo /etc/init.d/mysql stop
[07:13] <Zoo> you know, if alot of you want to stop services, and take alot of the control of your system, install,, sysv-rc-conf
[07:13] <phiber_optic> thanx tkup
[07:13] <Bips> errors while compiling lvm2 version 2.01.10 with device-mapper 1.01.05.. throwing errors when creating lvm.static
[07:13] <phiber_optic> anyone in here have seen fedora core 5?
[07:14] <tkup> phiber_optic, np
[07:14] <Zoo> yes phiber_optic
[07:14] <phiber_optic> Zoo how is it?
[07:14] <Zoo> I installed it, but, eh, I stick to debian base
[07:14] <Zoo> its not bad, eh
[07:14] <Zoo> got better, faster and hardware detection.. but eh, still have couple bugs , but doesn't everything :-)
[07:14] <iceman> shoot getting java working in firefox ?
[07:14] <phiber_optic> Ubuntu is better? I had fedora 1, 2 3 but then I changed to ubuntu
[07:14] <cafuego> what?
[07:14] <chris____> can someone help me with appache?
[07:15] <chris____> i am looking to start a ftp
[07:15] <phiber_optic> Zoo is it faster than ubuntu?
[07:15] <adventchild> phiber_optic, yea i have seen it and the gui is just like ubuntu, but the prgm its self is WAY different
[07:15] <Nrbelex> So does anybody know where Apache access log files ar put?
[07:15] <Zoo> phiber_optic, , I started out on Mandrake 10.0 official, then Xandros business 2.0, 3..0, then REd Hat, Fedora , LInspire, blah blah blah , even DesktopBSd and PC BSD and freebsd and even FreeSBIE and knoppix and list keeps going
[07:15] <Zoo> nah
[07:15] <cafuego> phiber_optic: it's is essentially identical; apart from the config file location and system admin tools.
[07:15] <chris____> nrbelex can you help me start a ftp?
[07:16] <chenjf> Nrbelex: maybe you should take a look under the /var/log?
[07:16] <anonobomber> neoxan: where they always are /var/log/
[07:16] <Zoo> the ubuntu, debian based system blows rpm's away
[07:16] <shiky> use Kanotix or Mepis
[07:16] <shiky> u mean Apt
[07:16] <shiky> lol Zoo
[07:16] <phiber_optic> I very like much ubuntu
[07:16] <phiber_optic> im with ubuntu like 1 and half month
[07:16] <Zoo> I guess you could change the file system around, you could make it, any linux system, install to.. ReiserFS 4,then, zoooom :)
[07:16] <chris____> someone here help me start a ftp?
[07:16] <shiky> it is good for noobs
[07:16] <phiber_optic> and pretty happy with it
[07:16] <adventchild> phiber_optic, the main problem with fedora 5 right now is lack of drivers...  all drivers must be loaded by hand and there is no general site to download them from
[07:16] <Nrbelex> chris____ probably not - this is my second day with Apache running
[07:16] <shiky> once you are very comfortable move up to Kanotix
[07:16] <iceman> Error: uncaught exception: [Exception... "Component returned failure code: 0x80570009 (NS_ERROR_XPC_BAD_CONVERT_JS) [nsIXPCComponents.lookupMethod] "  nsresult: "0x80570009 (NS_ERROR_XPC_BAD_CONVERT_JS)"  location: "JS frame :: chrome://global/content/XPCNativeWrapper.js :: anonymous :: line 91"  data: no] 
[07:16] <Zoo> whats good for newbs
[07:17] <iceman> whats that
[07:17] <chris____> nrbelex can you give me a hand?
[07:17] <Zoo> Xandros is good for newbs..
[07:17] <shiky> and once you understand that well start building your own debian
[07:17] <chenjf> chris____: sudo /etc/init.d/proftpd start
[07:17] <Zoo> and who do ya consider newbs :-)
[07:17] <shiky> Ubuntu owns Xandros
[07:17] <Zoo> m8
[07:17] <shiky> apt kills Xandros Networks
[07:17] <chenjf> chris____: and of course you need to install proftpd firest
[07:17] <Zoo> I Plan to take a kernel, drivers I need, and then install whatever packages i want, simple as that, or source packages, whatever :-)
[07:17] <chris____> chris@ubuntu:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/proftpd start
[07:17] <chris____> Password:
[07:17] <chris____> sudo: /etc/init.d/proftpd: command not found
[07:17] <Zoo> m8
[07:17] <chris____> proftpd?
[07:17] <adventchild> !pastebin
[07:17] <ubotu> I guess pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[07:17] <Zoo> I started hacking Xandros, and did alot in apt, and?
[07:17] <chenjf> yes
[07:17] <chris____> ok sypnatic?
[07:18] <Zoo> :-)
[07:18] <chenjf> yes
[07:18] <phiber_optic> where are all the main code for the programs installed?
[07:18] <Zoo> and to tell you the truth, I never seen anything faster thana unix file system :-)
[07:18] <iceman> well crud ... firefow shows java turned on ... but nothing works ...
[07:18] <adventchild> how is lindows?
[07:18] <Zoo> unix is just not my thing I stay with.. :-)
[07:18] <phiber_optic> Zoo unix file system I would say is the fastest
[07:18] <Zoo> its already changed to linspire, and I don't like it much at all,
[07:18] <chenjf> iceman: I use ibm jdk1.5 for linux and it works well
[07:18] <Zoo> it is the fastest
[07:19] <chris____> chenjf so many packages!
[07:19] <chris____> could you be kindly to do a private chat?
[07:19] <Zoo> to tell you truth, clustering, and super computers is the fastest lol.. lets not go there :)
[07:19] <phiber_optic> Zoo do u know where is the folder where the code for the programs are saved?
[07:19] <chenjf> ok
[07:19] <adventchild> Zoo, please see #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:19] <adventchild> lol
[07:19] <Zoo> see my middle finga :-)
[07:20] <phiber_optic> loll
[07:20] <Nrbelex> chris____, the best I can do is lead you to http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_5.04
[07:20] <Zoo> i'm going to get drink, then talk to my friends on filetopia, and skype blah
[07:20] <adventchild> o.O
[07:20] <chenjf> chris____: just choose proftpd package
[07:20] <Zoo> offtopic my arse :-)
[07:20] <phiber_optic> anyone know where is the code of all the programs stored.. lets say I want to see the code of an application, or the code for ls, etc etc
[07:20] <adventchild> your arse then
[07:20] <_jason> phiber_optic: apt-get source packagename
[07:21] <iceman> ok there a way to cut and paste the java file to there proper locations
[07:21] <Madpilot> iceman, you shouldn't need to...
[07:22] <eobanb> hey guys, my friend has a toshiba satellite A25 that doesnt show anything at all when booting the install CD; is there some kernel argument i can pass at the boot: prompt to get like a failsafe mode or something?
[07:22] <phiber_optic> _jason thats for applications if im not mistaken... maybe Im wrong... but lets say if I would like to see the source code of how ls is implemented
[07:22] <sgt-dyke> okay dont be annoy in gonna ask it one more time
[07:22] <sgt-dyke> okay dont be annoy in gonna ask it one more time
[07:22] <sgt-dyke> have another question for you...   i mount my usb mp3 player... i can read file and  copy existhing on the hardrive...   but i can't write new mp3on it....  anyone have an idea
[07:22] <nto_> !java
[07:22] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[07:22] <chris____> run proftpd from inetd or standalone?
[07:22] <_jason> phiber_optic: dpkg -S `which ls`, then apt-get source <the package it said>
[07:22] <chenjf> standalone
[07:22] <chris____> its going to be public
[07:23] <healot> sgt-dyke, you may need to remount it (manually) with the option "rw"
[07:23] <chris____> ok now in ternminal i type what?
[07:23] <phiber_optic> _jason when I typed  dpkg -S `which ls` it doesnt do anything
[07:23] <phiber_optic> it just shows me /bin/ls
[07:23] <chenjf> chris____: it should be started automatically
[07:23] <_jason> phiber_optic: didn't it say 'coreutils' before that?
[07:23] <Zoo> eobanb, , did you burn the image right, or are you using the official ubuntu cd?
[07:23] <chenjf> chris____: you can try to connect to localhost
[07:23] <chris____> ok how do i apply my folders now?
[07:24] <chenjf> chris____: it should be /home/ftp
[07:24] <chris____> how do i connect to localhost
[07:24] <chris____> ok ok
[07:24] <phiber_optic> _jason I think not
[07:24] <Zoo> also, my friend complained when he uses the 64 version of ubuntu, he told me off, but then he smiled
[07:24] <eobanb> zoo: i've tried with a burned 5.10 and a shipped 5.04 and they both dont work
[07:24] <chenjf> chris____: try ftp localhost
[07:24] <eobanb> i just want a vga safe mode
[07:24] <Zoo> i see
[07:24] <Zoo> try drake m8
[07:24] <Mitja> Where can I find root settings at boot?
[07:24] <phiber_optic> how would I see the code of code utils?
[07:24] <_jason> phiber_optic: it should, anyway coreutils is the package you want
[07:24] <eobanb> Zoo: ??
[07:24] <Zoo> bu ti will say, not every distribution is perfect, and all are different, etc..
[07:24] <carthik> Mitja, what do you mean by "root settings"?
[07:24] <eobanb> dude
[07:24] <chris____> 220 ProFTPD 1.2.10 Server (Debian) [127.0.0.1] 
[07:24] <chris____> Name (localhost:chris): chris@ubuntu:~$
[07:25] <eobanb> not installing mandrake
[07:25] <chris____> not my public ftp adress?
[07:25] <Mitja> carthik, global ones
[07:25] <Zoo> you might want to try knoppix
[07:25] <ltR20> how can i set file assosiations?
[07:25] <Mitja> carthik, system-wide
[07:25] <iceman> Madpilot well the bin file is extracted to /home/iceman/jre1.5.0_06
[07:25] <_jason> phiber_optic: apt-get source coreutils
[07:25] <phiber_optic> _jason, where is coreutils located?
[07:25] <chenjf> chris____: you have a pblic address?
[07:25] <phiber_optic> ohh ok _jason
[07:25] <eobanb> Zoo i need to install *ubuntu* on this machine
[07:25] <phiber_optic> thanx very much
[07:25] <chris____> yes chenjf
[07:25] <eobanb> not knoppix
[07:25] <_jason> phiber_optic: the source will end up in cwd
[07:25] <carthik> Mitja, that is not vey helpful in making it clearer. could you explain what settings you wnt to see? settings for which application?
[07:25] <nandemonai__> Greetings people
[07:25] <Zoo> you don't ness need to do anything
[07:25] <chenjf> of course you can connect to you public io
[07:25] <chenjf> ip
[07:26] <Madpilot> iceman, now you need to install out of the bin file
[07:26] <Zoo> are you forcing yourself to install ubuntu or what?
[07:26] <chenjf> chris____: try ftp <you publid ip>
[07:26] <chris____> how do i connect or set my public IP
[07:26] <Mitja> carthik, settings that get loaded when a computer is booted.
[07:26] <Zoo> eobanb, ?
[07:26] <Mitja> carthik, for all users, the entire OS
[07:26] <iceman> Madpilot lost at that point
[07:26] <eobanb> zoo, i'm just looking for the boot parameter to use a failsafe vga mode, THAT'S ALL
[07:26] <carthik> Mitja, the entire OS, well, it is all over the place.... tell us what exactly your problem is, and we can help
[07:26] <chris____> its connected
[07:27] <Zoo> oh do..
[07:27] <chenjf> chris____: good
[07:27] <Zoo> vga=791
[07:27] <carthik> Mitja, explain in detail what you want to do, so we can see what you want
[07:27] <nandemonai__> Quick question, I want to setup a ubuntu box as a net router.. ie two network interfaces on inet the other sharing to other machines on the lan. I know how to do this with firestarter which is no biggy but my question is can I somehow limit bandwidth per client?
[07:27] <Mitja> carthik, I want to set shmmax to be permanent of certain value
[07:27] <chris____> now what?
[07:27] <eobanb> okay..
[07:27] <Nrbelex> I setup Firestarter from my root account and don't see it running when logged in as others - Is that an issue?
[07:27] <Zoo> you might try as well..  apci=off
[07:27] <Madpilot> iceman, have you even read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-e2ebd70ede0e3eb2117ffbd618d2295dd1540dca?
[07:27] <adventchild> Zoo, back
[07:27] <Nrbelex> And how can I see what processes are currently running?
[07:27] <iceman> there now
[07:27] <chenjf> chris____: put your files under /home/ftp so that otheres can download them
[07:27] <Zoo> drake's quite diff, from previous versions of ubuntu < I will say that :-)
[07:27] <adventchild> !hug Zoo
[07:27] <ubotu> adventchild: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:27] <adventchild> Mittens huh?
[07:28] <carthik> Mitja, what is shmmax? something somewhere in /proc/ ? where exactly?
[07:28] <chris____> ok
[07:28] <nandemonai__> Any ideas anyone? Is what I want even possible?
[07:28] <adventchild> ubotu, and my dog is Socks
[07:28] <ubotu> okay, adventchild
[07:28] <Mitja> carthik, /proc/sys/kernel/shmmax
[07:28] <chris____> dont see a ftp folder
[07:29] <ltR20> how can i set file assosiations?
[07:29] <nandemonai__> Essentially I want to limit bandwidth per client on a inet share.. I'm pretty sure firestarter can not do this..
[07:29] <Zoo> eobanb, , if you don't mind trying out Dapper Drake, I encourage ya, it might help ya for now.. I like it alot, and I am chaning alot of things as we speak, run levels, etc.. services, booting, graphics, adding , taking out , remember when like.. Bruce Willis was like, whats this ? a plastic ice cream scoop.. :-)
[07:29] <chenjf> chris____: just create one
[07:29] <iceman> madpiolet whay cant i get multi verse enabled i checked it in synaptic
[07:29] <chris____> ok
[07:29] <chris____> ok
[07:29] <Zoo> Dapper Drake gives you Vga optoins right off the bat, I think F3 or F4 :-)
[07:29] <chris____> drag a file in there now?
[07:29] <chenjf> yes
[07:30] <Madpilot> iceman, have you hit the Reload button in Synaptic?
[07:30] <adventchild> iceman, you have to change the value of the universe
[07:30] <Zoo> here you go eobanb , this might help, and help alot more.. http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/flight6
[07:30] <chris____> chenjf done
[07:30] <Zoo> I really like it, I can fix any bugs pretty much, I just send my Dog after it :-)
[07:30] <zepmantra> hello what could be the problem if the installation hangs on "installing base-system"
[07:30] <adventchild> read the restricted formats page...   it says how to do so
[07:30] <Zoo> and monkeys, and lions.. :-)
[07:31] <iceman> reloading again ... but
[07:31] <Zoo> i/o
[07:31] <iceman> advenchild what ?
[07:31] <eobanb> thanks, zoo.  i looked through the boot options and vga=771 seemed to work
[07:31] <chenjf> chris____: now let somebody test if it works
[07:31] <Zoo> interupt ,/ output for your hardware would be my best guess zep, etc, might have to through couple commands
[07:31] <chris____> ok let me try it
[07:31] <Zoo> eobanb,
[07:31] <adventchild> .. you need to change the values of the universe to be uni and multi...  the restricted formats page tells you how to do that
[07:32] <Zoo> try  this 1, vga=791, will take it in its highest vga it can :-)
[07:32] <carthik> Mitja, there that was much better, you can edit /etc/sysctl.conf and add kernel.shmmax = 2147483648 (or whatever you want) and save it. The next time you reboot the value will be set right. If you want to change it without rebooting, use $sudo /sbin/sysctl -p
[07:32] <Nrbelex> I setup Firestarter from my root account and don't see it running when logged in as others - Is that an issue and how can I see what processes are currently running?
[07:32] <chris____> 69.37.206.180
[07:32] <chris____> my IP
[07:32] <Zoo> and you can try other things , if tha thelps. like disabling frame buffer, etc..
[07:32] <iceman> can someone pastbin me a working sources list please
[07:32] <carthik> Mitja, is that what you were looking for? why do you need to mess with that, if I may ask?
[07:32] <tristanmike> !sources
[07:32] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[07:32] <adventchild> !tell iceman about mp3
[07:32] <chenjf> chris____: i can connected to you ip
[07:32] <Mitja> carthik, what if there is no /etc/sysctl.conf? Do I create it?
[07:32] <zepmantra> ic Zoo, i have tried :linux irqpool iobase=extent something it work... but on install base systems it hangs ... can u suggest other commands to install...
[07:33] <Zoo> SBC yeah
[07:33] <adventchild> read the restricted formats page iceman
[07:33] <iceman> a source.list update .. past bine me a copy ...
[07:33] <Zoo> chris, I miss em ;(
[07:33] <chris____> chenjf is the ftp working?
[07:33] <Madpilot> !tell iceman about sources
[07:33] <tristanmike> iceman: see ubotu above
[07:33] <Blippe> Nrbelex, it is running, you could check with "ps -A" in terminal and firestarter is just a grafical setup program for iptables!
[07:33] <Zoo> I miss my fast DSL and really configurable :)
[07:33] <Zoo> hm
[07:33] <Zoo> maybe suggest diff distribution :D
[07:33] <adventchild> read the restricted formats page iceman...  it tells you what to do step by step
[07:33] <zepmantra> har har
[07:33] <chenjf> chris____: i can't login
[07:34] <carthik> Mitja, highly unlikely that you wont have it, check the spelling, and if you dont have one, create it. man sysctl.conf for detailed notes - read it
[07:34] <iceman> ty for the sources ...
[07:34] <chris____> whats the adress ?
[07:34] <Nrbelex> Blippe, haha thanks
[07:34] <chenjf> 69.37.206.180
[07:34] <chris____> i know that
[07:34] <Zoo> or, you could be experiencing hardware issue , see that problem with laptops.> I know how ya feel, I just got Wireless working, thanks to the programmers who reverse engineered Broadcoms wireless drivers, and wrote linux drivers :-) for me acer :)
[07:34] <killapop> hi all, Im having trouble mounting a ntfs hard disk via usb to be writable. I tried googling for it and got some info. changed some config setting and recompiled the kernel. but it still wont work
[07:34] <chris____> http:// 69.37.206.180  or ftp://69.37.206.180
[07:34] <killapop> help!
[07:35] <Mitja> carthik, sorry, there is one, just tab in console won't show it
[07:35] <javo> hola
[07:35] <iceman> w t f ... that sources list gave tons of errors
[07:35] <Zoo> it also, took me a long time to fing at least a great working distribution for my laptop.. ubuntu was good choice, but still, I even used others, and still do..
[07:35] <javo> ?
[07:35] <javo> algun salon espaol
[07:35] <Madpilot> iceman, which sources list?
[07:35] <Madpilot> !es
[07:35] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:35] <adventchild> !CPT
[07:35] <ubotu> adventchild: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:35] <Zoo> zepmantra, , I encourage you.. try out Dapper Drake for petes sake :-)
[07:35] <nto_> sigh, I just cant firefox to work with java
[07:35] <iceman> needed to run update
[07:35] <Zoo> nto
[07:35] <Zoo> have you tried opera?
[07:35] <adventchild> !latitude
[07:35] <ubotu> adventchild: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:35] <bur[n] er> Zoo: bcm43xx by chance?
[07:35] <chenjf> chris____: your ftp server doens't allow anonymouse access
[07:36] <Blippe> !firestarter
[07:36] <ubotu> Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter, which can be installed via synaptic.
[07:36] <carthik> Mitja, next time that happens, try two tabs, this will give you a list of files matching the letters you typed
[07:36] <Zoo> opera great :)
[07:36] <nto_> Zoo, yes, but i like ff
[07:36] <_jason> !fish
[07:36] <ubotu> I heard fish is A way to access another computer's files using a simple SSH shell account and standard UNIX utilities on the remote side.
[07:36] <Zoo> ah
[07:36] <_jason> erm
[07:36] <chris____> ok so i cant view my ftp?
[07:36] <adventchild> !random
[07:36] <Zoo> well there alot :)
[07:36] <ubotu> Hey adventchild, dialup is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//DialupModemHowto
[07:36] <_jason> ubotu: tell adventchild about fishing
[07:36] <Zoo> this slackware user I met, used this 1, I can't remember :-)
[07:36] <chris____> but you can only outside my network like?
[07:37] <Zoo> he likes enlightenment, I like Fluxbox, he was expecting a medal, I told him I didn't have 1 for him :-)
[07:37] <chenjf> chris____: no. it means if you want to access your ftp server,you need to login first
[07:37] <chris____> ok what is the adress of my login?
[07:37] <iceman> there got that first part of the how to to work ...
[07:37] <chenjf> chris____: your system should have a ftp user,but of cousre i dont't know the password
[07:37] <chris____> full adress
[07:38] <chris____> i didnt set up a ftp user
[07:38] <Zoo> hey chris
[07:38] <chenjf> the proftpd package will do it for you
[07:38] <chris____> yes zoo
[07:38] <Zoo> I used to have SBC as well , I miss them :(
[07:38] <todd> hey question how do you get the system info thing thats always up in the top right hand corner of the desktop thats always on peoples system?
[07:38] <chris____> zoo i am busy
[07:38] <Zoo> aren't we all :D
[07:38] <todd> it show like memory useage and cpu stats
[07:38] <Madpilot> todd, which system info thing?
[07:38] <chris____> ok lets set it up with users and passwords
[07:39] <iceman> Setting up java-package (0.26) ...
[07:39] <iceman> iceman@icebox:~$ fakeroot make-jpkg jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin
[07:39] <iceman> Error: The file "jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin" does not exist.
[07:39] <chris____> ok whats the command?
[07:39] <iceman> hrlp
[07:39] <adventchild> Zoo, i have verizon...  i hate it, but at times i have a d/l speed of over 20mb/s
[07:39] <Madpilot> todd, try right-clicking on your panel, select Add To Panel, look for the System Monitor
[07:39] <chenjf> sudo passwd ftp
[07:39] <chris____> guys join #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:39] <Zoo> I got 2 gb per sec, then idled to, 800 mb and finish, I working with fiber optics and prisms right now, its pretty dam awesome..
[07:39] <Siph0n> do ppl recomend having a virus scanner in ubuntu?
[07:39] <chenjf> and then type in the password for the ftp user
[07:40] <Madpilot> Siph0n, not much point
[07:40] <Zoo> I just don't have it , in my apartment yet, :)
[07:40] <adventchild> $$$
[07:40] <chris____> ok password is up
[07:40] <todd> nah thats  not it its like on the desktop its self
[07:40] <tonyyarusso> Siph0n: Generally not on a default install, but if you start running servers or listening programs, then maybe.
[07:40] <Zoo> I recomend having a firewall,
[07:40] <volcom_b0i> does anyone know about the xfce support in dapper?
[07:40] <Madpilot> Zoo, I don't want to be the heavy op, but: last warning on offtopic stuff, OK?
[07:40] <Zoo> just be cacious, thats with anything
[07:40] <Siph0n> Madpilot, k... yea... thats what i read :)
[07:40] <Zoo> oh Madpilot  blah, I going to other client, with friends.. take care m8,, OK?
[07:41] <Zoo> :-)
[07:41] <chris____> how about a user name?
[07:41] <chenjf> chris____: the user name is ftp
[07:41] <Zoo> I come back, maybe in couple months, like I always do
[07:41] <chris____> ok ok
[07:41] <chris____> :)
[07:41] <chris____> ok whats the whole adress to the ftp?
[07:41] <todd> any luck with the system info thing anyone?
[07:42] <chris____> chenjf whats the whole adress of my ftp
[07:42] <Zoo> i i captain :-)
[07:42] <todd> i wish i could post up a pic for someone to see
[07:42] <chris____> ftp://my publicIP?
[07:42] <kRaKoN> hi
[07:42] <chenjf> yes
[07:43] <kRaKoN> how do I install a file .deb ?
[07:43] <carthik> kRaKoN, spkg -i filename.deb
[07:43] <kuja> kRaKoN: deb -i <package>
[07:43] <tonyyarusso> todd: If you have a pic, or can find one, you can put it on the pastebin.
[07:43] <kuja> err
[07:43] <kuja> dpkg
[07:43] <carthik> kRaKoN, but why do you need a deb? is it not in the ubunt repository?
[07:43] <chris____> chenjf wait a sec
[07:43] <adventchild> kRaKoN, dpkg -i <pkGname>
[07:43] <Zoo> there many ways you can do it
[07:43] <todd> whats the psate bin
[07:43] <Zoo> :)
[07:44] <tristanmike> !pastebin
[07:44] <kuja> todd: /topic
[07:44] <ubotu> [pastebin]  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[07:44] <healot> ~_~
[07:44] <Zoo> bye all :-)
[07:44] <adventchild> Zoo, bye bye
[07:44] <iceman> c r  a p  did exactly what the stupid page said and still no freaking java
[07:44] <iceman> dang it
[07:44] <todd> whats the pastebin?
[07:44] <uscfan> hey everyone I really wanna install 5.10 for x86_64 so I can upgrade to Dapper in order to do all the uber XGL stuff and plus I've been wanting to get back into ubutntu, but just a question... will it matter if I do x86_64 or regular x86? Are there any limitations to using the 64bit edition?
[07:44] <tonyyarusso> todd: Read what ubotu said above.
[07:44] <Zoo> hey adventchild , want to hear something funny before I go
[07:45] <kRaKoN> carhik, kuja and adventchild thanks for the help
[07:45] <chris____> chainjf whats my login?
[07:45] <adventchild> hey Zoo, sure
[07:45] <chenjf> chris____: if you agree,you can tell me the passowrd of the ftp user and i can help you test your ftp server
[07:45] <iceman> crud .... help ...
[07:45] <chris____> well user name?
[07:45] <adventchild> np kRaKoN
[07:45] <chenjf> ftp
[07:45] <chris____> we didnt set a ftp user
[07:45] <kRaKoN> carthink it is the skype software i don't think it is on the repositories
[07:45] <adventchild> !java
[07:45] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[07:45] <tonyyarusso> kRaKoN, carthik: Seveas has it.
[07:45] <chenjf> the proftpd package set it up for you
[07:45] <Zoo> my buddy and them, were talking about different' viruses, and this 1, almost made me piss my pants laughing...
[07:45] <todd> you got me losy lol
[07:45] <chris____> ok how do i find it out?
[07:46] <Zoo> ==>  Alzheimer's Virus---It makes your computer forget where it put your files.
[07:46] <chenjf> check /etc/passwd
[07:46] <adventchild> !javadebs
[07:46] <iceman> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:46] <chenjf> see if there is a ftp entry
[07:46] <adventchild> lmao
[07:46] <Zoo> :P
[07:46] <chenjf> should be
[07:46] <carthik> Zoo, thought you were going off? :)
[07:46] <iceman> been there don that ... crash and burn on me
[07:46] <Zoo> I am,, meh :)
[07:46] <Zoo> I never stay in the channel where it suppose to be, humanity to others, they got.. grudge against Zoo :)
[07:46] <chris____> hris@ubuntu:~$ /etc/passwd
[07:46] <chris____> bash: /etc/passwd: Permission denied
[07:46] <chris____> chris@ubuntu:~$ sudo /etc/passwd
[07:46] <chris____> Password:
[07:46] <chris____> sudo: /etc/passwd: command not found
[07:46] <chris____> sorry
[07:46] <kRaKoN> tonyyarusso: seveas? what's that?
[07:46] <adventchild> !tell iceman about javadebs
[07:46] <adventchild> !pastebin
[07:46] <chenjf> sudo vi /etc/passwd
[07:46] <ubotu> [pastebin]  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[07:47] <kRaKoN> oh tonyyarusso, ohh i see thank you!
[07:47] <NsOmNiAc> ubotu !mov
[07:47] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, NsOmNiAc
[07:47] <chris____> ok what am i looking for?
[07:47] <Zoo> adventchild, , ain't my fault, someday, watch me own a multi billionair company, running supporting linux A.I, ubuntu people going be like :O
[07:47] <iceman> and more confusing reading ... one tells you one thing,,, another something different
[07:47] <chenjf> ftp
[07:47] <chenjf> the ftp user
[07:47] <adventchild> ...
[07:47] <Zoo> and I goin be like, ;)
[07:47] <chris____> ftp:x:118:65534::/home/ftp:/bin/false
[07:47] <chenjf> that it
[07:48] <adventchild> iceman, download the SunJRE .deb file to your desktop
[07:48] <iceman> where does firefox keep it's plugins ...
[07:48] <todd> this program is like tranparent on the desktop
[07:48] <chenjf> so now you've set it up
[07:48] <chenjf> let someone help you test it
[07:48] <ltR20> how do i download azureus with ubuntu?
[07:48] <adventchild> iceman, then dpkg -i it
[07:48] <iceman> adventchild jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin thats on my desktop
[07:48] <_jason> ubotu: tell ltR20 about azureus
[07:48] <chris____> ok
[07:49] <carthik> ltR20, go to the forums, or the wiki and search for azureus
[07:49] <chenjf> remember you need to tell the guy who you want to help you test the ftp user name and password
[07:49] <adventchild> iceman, dpkg -i ~/Desktop/jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin
[07:49] <jenda> Is it normal for Thunderbird to take AGES to 'connect to smtp.gmail.com'?
[07:50] <iceman> must dpkg as sudo
[07:50] <_jason> adventchild: ?  that's a bin file
[07:50] <chris____> chenjf private chat please?
[07:50] <shiky> nah jenda
[07:50] <healot> adventchild, nay
[07:50] <chenjf> ok
[07:50] <adventchild> iceman, if that doesnt work try to find the JRE i386 file
[07:50] <_jason> iceman: cd ~/Desktop, and follow the wiki as usual
[07:50] <adventchild> oops
[07:50] <shiky> google the instructions
[07:50] <jenda> shiky: right... :)
[07:50] <healot> fakeroot make-jpkg <sun jre/jdk package>
[07:50] <ltR20> any good bit torrent clients.. other then azureus?
[07:50] <healot> install "java-package" first
[07:50] <iceman> iceman@icebox:~$ sudo dpkg -i jdk-1_5_0_06-nb-5_0-linux.bin
[07:50] <iceman> dpkg-deb: `jdk-1_5_0_06-nb-5_0-linux.bin' is not a debian format archive
[07:50] <iceman> dpkg: error processing jdk-1_5_0_06-nb-5_0-linux.bin (--install):
[07:50] <iceman>  subprocess dpkg-deb --control returned error exit status 2
[07:50] <iceman> Errors were encountered while processing:
[07:50] <ltR20> like uTorrent
[07:50] <iceman>  jdk-1_5_0_06-nb-5_0-linux.bin
[07:50] <shiky> ktorrent
[07:50] <iceman> iceman@icebox:~$
[07:50] <iceman> ouch
[07:50] <_jason> iceman: don't paste here.
[07:51] <healot> that will produce a debian java package
[07:51] <shiky> ktorrent is the best I have ever used
[07:51] <iceman> sorry to past here ... but getting very aggrivated at this
[07:51] <shiky> it has built in searching feature
[07:51] <mlowe> ltR20, qttorrent
[07:51] <chenjf> chris____: I sent you private IM message,but no respones?
[07:51] <adventchild> ltR20, the BT client built into ubuntu?
[07:51] <linux_user400354> iceman, chmod +x jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin
[07:51] <_jason> iceman: do what I said and your problems will disappear like magic
[07:51] <chris____> chenjf i guess its not working
[07:51] <todd> i found a link of a screen shot with it running on someones desktop
[07:51] <chris____> lets make a channel?
[07:51] <iceman> iceman@icebox:~$ chmod +x jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin
[07:51] <iceman> chmod: cannot access `jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin': No such file or directory
[07:51] <iceman> iceman@icebox:~$
[07:52] <linux_user400354> iceman, ./Desktop/jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin
[07:52] <iceman> ouch
[07:52] <iceman> dir
[07:52] <adventchild> !tell iceman about pastebin
[07:52] <todd> if someone has aim i could send it to them
[07:52] <chenjf> chris____: do you have MSN?or Yahoo?
[07:52] <chris____> yah msn
[07:52] <chris____> :)
[07:52] <chenjf> tell me
[07:52] <chris____> and yahoo
[07:52] <shiky> http://ktorrent.pwsp.net/index.php?page=home
[07:52] <todd> http://www.kde-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=3&id=17463&file1=17463-1.jpg&file2=17463-2.jpg&file3=17463-3.jpg&name=Metal4kde
[07:52] <chris____> c_vecchitto@hotmail.com
[07:52] <todd> thats the link
[07:52] <chenjf> ok , let me add you
[07:52] <iceman> running out of room on this desktop
[07:52] <chris____> ok
[07:53] <linux_user400354> !pastebin
[07:53] <ubotu> somebody said pastebin was http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[07:53] <adventchild> iceman,
[07:53] <adventchild> iceman, cd ~/Desktop
[07:53] <todd> anyone know what the program is called
[07:53] <iceman> there
[07:53] <adventchild> iceman, then run the chmod
[07:54] <iceman> ok chmod done
[07:54] <iceman> no error
[07:54] <todd> ??
[07:54] <iceman> there are install in the file system some dang place
[07:55] <adventchild> iceman, now try fakeroot make-jpkg <sun jre/jdk package>
[07:55] <vinboy> wat is the light version of firefox called?
[07:55] <todd> can someone hel pme find this program really quick or what its even called
[07:56] <linux_user400354> iceman, there is a howto on the ubuntus webpage under wiki for installing java
[07:56] <brammator> how can i build 'caching' ubuntu repository?
[07:56] <todd> ?
[07:56] <iceman> dpkg-architecture: warning: Couldn't determine gcc system type, falling back to default (native compilation)
[07:56] <iceman> several lines like that
[07:56] <adventchild> iceman, you did 'fakeroot make-jpkg jdk-1_5_0_06-nb-5_0-linux.bin'?
[07:57] <healot> iceman, install "build-essential" first
[07:57] <todd> anyone?
[07:57] <iceman> o m g
[07:57] <iceman> n
[07:58] <brammator> i mean, i have one proxy and don't want to download any package twice. also i don't want to build full mirror. is there a way?
[07:58] <iceman> iceman@icebox:~/Desktop$ fakeroot make-jpkg jdk-1_5_0_06-nb-5_0-linux.bin
[07:58] <iceman> Error: The file "jdk-1_5_0_06-nb-5_0-linux.bin" does not exist.
[07:58] <iceman> iceman@icebox:~/Desktop$
[07:58] <iceman> o m f g
[07:58] <adventchild> see healot's message above
[07:58] <todd> can someone help me
[07:59] <iceman> anyone care to ssh and log in and fix JAVA
[07:59] <healot> iceman, totally new eh? wtf... where the hell is your Sun's JRE/JDK installer located at?
[07:59] <iceman> ill turn off fire wall in router
[07:59] <_jason> iceman: you should stick with it and learn so you don't become dependent
[07:59] <iceman> that jre is on the desktop
[08:00] <adventchild> iceman, healot suggested install "build-essential" first
[08:00] <healot> really? iceman? sure about that?
[08:00] <_jason> iceman: jre or jdk?
[08:00] <iceman> staring at the icon for the file
[08:00] <healot> is "jdk-1_5_0_06-nb-5_0-linux.bin" the one you downloaded?
[08:00] <adventchild> iceman, you are saying JRE but typing JDK
[08:00] <todd> can someone help me
[08:00] <adventchild> typo?
[08:00] <_jason> ubotu: tell todd about patience
[08:01] <healot> iceman, do this, a simple one "j<tab><tab>"....
[08:01] <iceman> jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin that file
[08:01] <_jason> iceman: enabling seveas repos and installing from there would have been a lot easier to tell you the truth
[08:01] <healot> todd, you can use synaptic to cache the file you downloaded...
[08:01] <_jason> iceman: fakeroot make-jpkg jre <tab>
[08:01] <ChrisLTD> what's a good swap file size?
[08:02] <ChrisLTD> swap partition*
[08:02] <todd> what file did i download
[08:02] <_jason> todd: how can anyone but you know what file you downloaded?
[08:02] <todd> i didnt download a file lol
[08:02] <shiky> lol
[08:02] <adventchild> ChrisLTD, idk...  mine was like 250 mb i think
[08:03] <carthik> todd ask one complete question on ONE line so others can understand you - try to look at things from the point of view of the person who will be answering your questions
[08:03] <healot> todd, duh.... if you did download?
[08:03] <sfar> ChrisLTD: 1 to 2 times the amout of RAM in your computer
[08:03] <linux_user400354> i need help getting vnc to work with java, so my desktop can be viewed using java through a web browser. i have got that to work in windows, but ive had lots of trouble trying to set it up in ubuntu. the vino server that comes with ubuntu doesnt support java. i installed vnc4server and vnc-java. when i had vncserver 3.3.7-7, people could connect using java in a web browser, but the screen was all grey. now i am getting these errors
[08:03] <linux_user400354>  when i use version 4 http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11509
[08:03] <ChrisLTD> I read somewhere it should be a certain percentage of your RAM.. but I cant remember what
[08:03] <todd> i have this screenshot of someones desktop with a program running on it and i was wondering if anyone knew what it was called
[08:03] <iceman> iceman@icebox:~/java$ fakeroot make-dpkg jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin
[08:03] <iceman> /usr/bin/fakeroot: line 150: make-dpkg: command not found
[08:03] <iceman> iceman@icebox:~/java$
[08:03] <ChrisLTD> star: thanks
[08:03] <healot> you can build a local repos by using "rsync", todd
[08:03] <iceman> dang it
[08:04] <adventchild> dang... all the pastin goin on i cant read anything
[08:04] <adventchild> !pastebin
[08:04] <ubotu> I guess pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[08:04] <_jason> iceman: make-jpkg not make-dpkg and stop pasting
[08:04] <healot> oww.... new pain.... iceman?
[08:04] <healot> ow
[08:04] <iceman> im coping what other type ...
[08:04] <healot> should we send you to a beginner's Linux class ?
[08:05] <_jason> iceman: no one typed make-dpkg -_-
[08:05] <healot> iceman, did you copy+paste or "retyped" things all over?
[08:05] <todd> i can send someone the link maybe they would know what it is, its like a system monitoring thing that dose e-mail also
[08:05] <adventchild> iceman, it should look like this: iceman@icebox:~/java$ fakeroot make-jpkg jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin
[08:05] <iceman> there inflating again
[08:05] <iceman> creating
[08:05] <sfar> ChrisLTD: But that is wierd.. because if you have 2GB RAM you probably wont need a swap partition :)
[08:06] <linux_user400354> iceman, why dont you follow the directions on the documentation ubuntus website has for installing java?
[08:06] <iceman> i did still fails
[08:06] <Madpilot> todd, can you just post the URL to the screenshot here?
[08:06] <m5m> does anyone know how to fix the mismatch of system font to my laptop lcd so I can see the bottom of thre screen when I'm not running X?
[08:06] <todd> http://www.kde-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=2&id=17463&file1=17463-1.jpg&file2=17463-2.jpg&file3=17463-3.jpg&name=Metal4kde      its running on the right side
[08:07] <adventchild> iceman, take snapshot of your terminal and paste @ pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org
[08:07] <adventchild> !pastebin
[08:07] <ubotu> hmm... pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[08:07] <adventchild> oop
[08:07] <adventchild> s
[08:07] <adventchild> paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[08:08] <adventchild> iceman, then type link here
[08:08] <iceman> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11510
[08:09] <iceman> errors
[08:09] <_jason> iceman: it's done
[08:09] <todd> heres a better view of the program        http://www.kde-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=3&id=17463&file1=17463-1.jpg&file2=17463-2.jpg&file3=17463-3.jpg&name=Metal4kde
[08:09] <iceman> what about errors
[08:09] <_jason> iceman: go to next step in wiki
[08:09] <_jason> iceman: no errors, just warnings
[08:10] <m5m> perhaps there's a way to use screnen to resize the display in pure tty?
[08:10] <iceman> the wiki is confusing on the "errors it talks about ?
[08:10] <m5m> screen*
[08:10] <iceman>  mkdir: cannot create directory `/etc/.java': Permission denied
[08:10] <iceman>   ./jdk-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin: line 507: /usr/share/mime-info/java-archive.keys: Permission denied
[08:10] <iceman> that part
[08:11] <_jason> iceman:   sudo dpkg -i sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update06_i386.deb
[08:11] <adventchild> iceman, go to next step...  finish what you are trying to do and see if it works...  what is your overall goal of this?
[08:11] <iceman>   DEB_BUILD_GNU_TYPE=i386-linux fakeroot make-jpkg jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin
[08:11] <iceman> that next ?
[08:11] <kjd-ro> hello .. i am a newb to linux ... i had debian before...
[08:11] <_jason> iceman: yes, but change the name if yours is different
[08:11] <adventchild> iceman, look @ _jason's message^^
[08:11] <todd> any luck anyone???
[08:12] <kjd-ro> i tryed to install ubuntu .. but i have 3 scsi hdd-s
[08:12] <kjd-ro> one is 8GB the other 2 are 18 GB each
[08:12] <iceman> ok unpacking .. thats not in wiki
[08:12] <_jason> iceman: yes, it is
[08:12] <kjd-ro> can anyone sugest me a way to partition them ?
[08:13] <adventchild> all files like that need to unpack
[08:13] <iceman> opk that unpacked ...
[08:13] <_jason> iceman: I'll grant you that the wiki is difficult for someone that is not used to linux and cli.  However, !javadebs would have been easier for you
[08:13] <_jason> iceman: you have java now (I hope)
[08:14] <iceman> ill try it again
[08:15] <iceman> thank you ... why i failed the wiki i do not completly know ... and i tried twice ....
[08:15] <adventchild> iceman, i had trouble with the wiki too
[08:15] <iceman> it works ... thanks ... for the time .. and patients .... I got tired and aggrivated fighting it
[08:15] <_jason> ubotu: tell iceman about cli
[08:16] <adventchild> !cli
[08:16] <ubotu> CLI means Command Line Interface, aka the terminal or console. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/ or http://www.tuxfiles.org
[08:16] <_jason> iceman: if you do all of those links ubotu just sent you, you will become a cli pro in no time and you'll laugh at the wiki
[08:16] <iceman> i am book marking the urls
[08:16] <linux_user400354> i need help getting vnc to work with java, so my desktop can be viewed using java through a web browser. i have got that to work in windows, but ive had lots of trouble trying to set it up in ubuntu. the vino server that comes with ubuntu doesnt support java. i installed vnc4server and vnc-java. when i had vncserver 3.3.7-7, people could connect using java in a web browser, but the screen was all grey. now i am getting these errors
[08:16] <linux_user400354>  when i use version 4 http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11509
[08:17] <sfar> *testing*
[08:17] <sfar> playing: Men without hats - The safety dance [2:42]  - 4.42MB {2719/3701}
[08:17] <sfar> wee it works
[08:17] <kjd-ro> anyone can help me with partitioning my 3 scsi hdd's ???? to install ubuntu on them
[08:18] <adventchild> !install
[08:18] <ubotu> Installing Ubuntu? See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation Installing software on Ubuntu? See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingSoftware
[08:19] <iceman> no sound in gnome ... with java ?
[08:19] <todd> any luck anyone???
[08:20] <adventchild> iceman, i think you might need the decoders...  is that right _jason?
[08:20] <adventchild> i had no sound, but then after i got the codecs all my sound worked
[08:20] <iceman> wow refresh is slow
[08:20] <bliss1_> void^ how it ging
[08:20] <bliss1_> going
[08:21] <iceman> ill go after codex next
[08:21] <sfar> iceman: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-832969c4301548599ecbe6393e2682a4e343af67
[08:21] <adventchild> w32codecs i believe should help...
[08:21] <bliss1_> carthik : hello how's life
[08:21] <kjd-ro> i have a dual cpu system also... is there a way to install ubuntu with the smp kernel ?
[08:22] <kjd-ro> so i won't need to apt-get the other kernel
[08:22] <PwcrLinux> Hello, How i can change the datestamp to "04/05/06"?
[08:22] <iceman> now keyboard stoped in java
[08:22] <konfuzed> someones tellin me that dapper was released - is that correct yet?
[08:22] <bliss1_> Qestion to the room how many people here have dumped windows 100%
[08:22] <E4rlGrey> ok... i have a question... i was here before and a guy named walden was helping me... i have a FAT drive for storage on my computer and i just installed ubuntu to my other drive... ubuntu recognizes it is there... but when i enable it in system/administration/disks... i can't edit anything on it... i can only copy or read data... as if it were an ntfs drive... can anyone help me make it so i can edit data on the drive too?
[08:22] <adventchild> bliss1_, i did
[08:22] <PwcrLinux> Dapper will release in june 2006
[08:22] <konfuzed> i still have a win98 box
[08:23] <bliss1_> adventchild: I did in january
[08:23] <PwcrLinux> Oh! anyone who uses Xchat?
[08:23] <adventchild> still have the install disk for 98,2k,xp,and vista tho...  lol
[08:23] <konfuzed> never bothered with a win server - always bsd or linux
[08:23] <kjd-ro> depar test cd was released
[08:23] <konfuzed> ah
[08:23] <kjd-ro> see :www.kubuntu.org
[08:23] <konfuzed> daper test cd
[08:24] <konfuzed> oh just at kubuntu
[08:24] <adventchild> never tried the vista disk...
[08:24] <konfuzed> i couldnt find any thing on ubuntu.com
[08:24] <kjd-ro> me neighter
[08:24] <bliss1_> adventchild: do you find that the web surfing and stuff is slower on ubuntu than XP or is it just me?
[08:24] <iceman> looks like java want sound or it hangs
 i have a dual cpu system also... is there a way to install ubuntu with the smp kernel ?
[08:25] <kjd-ro> i have a dual cpu system also... is there a way to install ubuntu with the smp kernel ?
[08:25] <kjd-ro> i have a dual cpu system also... is there a way to install ubuntu with the smp kernel ?
[08:25] <iceman> i find most web surfing faster on Ubuntu '
[08:25] <adventchild> bliss1_, i have not seen a difference...  if any, i think ubuntu is running faster

[08:25] <PwcrLinux> Hmm, seem no one uses a xchat.. I'll go find other xchat support server..
[08:25] <bliss1_> adventchild: maybe  what browser do you use
[08:25] <holobyted> kjd-ro, have to compile it yourself
[08:25] <adventchild> PwcrLinux, i use xchat
[08:26] <adventchild> bliss1_, in ubuntu or xp?
[08:26] <bliss1_> adventchild: ubuntu
[08:26] <kjd-ro> compile it my self... hmmm i am doomed then :D
[08:26] <holobyted> and if firefox feels slow for you, just download one of the optimized builds... it really speeds it up
[08:26] <adventchild> bliss1_, firefox
[08:26] <PwcrLinux> adventchild: ah, how i can change the datestamp to "04/05/06" in channel stamps on my xchat?
[08:26] <kjd-ro> there is a packet for the apt-get install ....
[08:26] <iceman> i have gone to about 70 precent linux usage ...
[08:26] <kjd-ro> i think he will going to compile it for me...
[08:26] <adventchild> PwcrLinux, idk...  im new to it sry...
[08:27] <kjd-ro> but the question is ... will it work ?
[08:27] <PwcrLinux> adventchild: Okay :)
[08:27] <bliss1_> aventchild: so do I maybe cos I have set up brideing in my network
[08:27] <lancia> noo, i will try after i finish these reports i have to complete tho
[08:27] <iceman> i want a linux distro to run on a ibm as/400
[08:27] <lancia> now that is a thought
[08:27] <holobyted> linux-image-2.6.12-9-k7-smp :: Linux kernel image for version 2.6.12 on AMD K7 SMP.
[08:27] <E4rlGrey> can anyone help me?
[08:27] <lancia> as400 distro
[08:28] <adventchild> bliss1_, idk...  i would rather use opera, but there is like no difference that would make me not be lazy enough to get it
[08:28] <iceman> it's a mainframe
[08:28] <lancia> it's a mini computer
[08:28] <lancia> not a mini ;)
[08:28] <lancia> not a mainframe
[08:28] <holobyted> linux-image-2.6.12-9-686-smp :: Linux kernel image for version 2.6.12 on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV SMP
[08:28] <holobyted> kjd-ro, should be able to "sudo apt-get ..." one of those
[08:28] <iceman> as/400 is the multi processor ibm server / mainframe
[08:28] <lancia> no it's a mini computer
[08:28] <E4rlGrey> ok... i have a question... i was here before and a guy named walden was helping me... i have a FAT drive for storage on my computer and i just installed ubuntu to my other drive... ubuntu recognizes it is there... but when i enable it in system/administration/disks... i can't edit anything on it... i can only copy or read data... as if it were an ntfs drive... can anyone help me make it so i can edit data on the drive too?
[08:29] <kjd-ro> yes i know
[08:29] <PwcrLinux> anyway, my ubuntu BB 5.10 work and smoothly great on my Sony Vaio PCG-GRZ610 :)
[08:29] <lancia> it's the next generation from the S/38
[08:29] <iceman> no... search ebay ... mainframes
[08:29] <kjd-ro> but will gnome still work ?
[08:29] <bliss1_> adventchild: ye I know just on the side do you know if its possible to change the procssor chip in a labtop
[08:29] <holobyted> yeah
[08:29] <lancia> s/32 s/34 s/36 s/38 and finally AS400
[08:29] <sfar> E4rlGrey: can you write to it as root?
[08:29] <kjd-ro> and everithing else .. ohh nice
[08:29] <lancia> all mini computers
[08:29] <holobyted> except you'll need to reinstall the nVidia/ATI drives, if you use them
[08:29] <holobyted> and VMware... and everything else that has a kernel module
[08:29] <holobyted> but it should be pretty straight-forward
[08:29] <kjd-ro> i have matrox MG400
[08:29] <iceman> i'm on a p4 2.8 ghz ...
[08:30] <iceman> untill i get my amd 64 mobo replaced
[08:30] <adventchild> bliss1_, i believe so...  but then you might run into probs with chipset and other compatibility issues
[08:30] <kjd-ro> prety hard to find drivers for it ... i found out...
[08:30] <adventchild> and bios has to support it
[08:30] <E4rlGrey> sfar: I don't know... i'm pretty new at ubuntu (and linux in general)
[08:30] <adventchild> sudo
[08:30] <konfuzed> ok is there an ubuntu (any variety or version) installer download that includes the nvidia drivers for chipset nforce 430
[08:30] <lancia> doesnt ibm has a linux distro?
[08:31] <holobyted> konfuzed, you mean the nForce 4 chipset? nVidia offers it
[08:31] <sfar> E4rlGrey: you can type "gksu nautilus" in a terminal windows.. this will launch nautilus (file browser) as root
[08:31] <iceman> not sure if it will run on the rica ? processors
[08:31] <iceman> rica not correct cant recall the actual cpu in theses
[08:31] <sfar> then yuo can try to edit a file on the disc, or copy a file to the disc
[08:31] <bliss1_> aventchild : yes your probably right, but got this intel D330 2.66GHz Celeron and its slugish
[08:31] <konfuzed> holobyted, i mean the nforce 430/410 which is two chips instead of one
[08:32] <holobyted> yeah... nVidia offers it
[08:32] <holobyted> http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html
[08:32] <holobyted> "Adds support for nForce 430/410 motherboards"
[08:32] <adventchild> are you overclocking?
[08:33] <bliss1_> aventchild; might be is there anything I can do?
[08:33] <sfar> E4rlGrey: and IF you can write to the disc as root you need to "sudo chown username:username /mnt/whaeva/"  (where /mnt/whaeva/ is the mountpoint for the hd)
[08:33] <iceman> i got a AMD thunderbird 700 across the room for the wife ... and i use a p4 2.8
[08:33] <adventchild> bliss1_, how about ram?
[08:33] <konfuzed> it seems that the current ubuntu installer does not enable the network card with nforce 430/410 chipset so it is not possible to download it to the box after install. also the xserver wont run and there is only the shell with no networking
[08:33] <bliss1_> aventchild: 256 mb
[08:33] <iceman> low ram there
[08:33] <adventchild> laptop right?
[08:34] <iceman> 768 meg here
[08:34] <konfuzed> so I hope to find an ubuntu (any variety or version) installer download that includes the nvidia drivers for chipset nforce 430/410
[08:34] <sfar> !tell E4rlGrey about vfat
[08:34] <bliss1_> adventchild: low ram labtop 256 mb
[08:34] <holobyted> what motherboard do you have? just wondering
[08:34] <adventchild> bliss1_,  pc100/133?
[08:34] <E4rlGrey> sfar what about it
[08:34] <sfar> what about what?
[08:35] <E4rlGrey> sfar: what about vfat?
[08:35] <bliss1_> aventchild: pc100/133 is that the spped of the ram orsorry just give me a hint
[08:35] <PwcrLinux> ah, my lappy have a 768 MB of ram, I looked at the terminal box to check ram size,, I use free command, then I puzzled it's fattened up to 776 MB, how strange on my lappy ram?
[08:35] <konfuzed> holobyted, msi someting with firewire and dual head video amd 3200 nvidia chipset 430/410
[08:35] <sfar> E4rlGrey: look at the links ubotu gave you in a private message
[08:36] <adventchild> bliss1_, yes...  i am running 192mb of 133 and i dont seem to have any real problems...  and its a celeron
[08:36] <bliss1_> adventchild; lucky man
[08:36] <sfar> (i typed vfat because fat didnt return any links ;)
[08:37] <adventchild> bliss1_,  lol...  i also only have a 5gb hd
[08:37] <adventchild> and i have 4 movies on it, so there is like no space left
[08:37] <adventchild> :-)
[08:37] <sfar> :)
[08:37] <bliss1_> PwcrLinux: whats freecommand
[08:38] <sfar> you can like buy 80GB HD for $30 (used)
[08:38] <PwcrLinux> Bliss: it's same as "mem" in xp or older windows..
[08:38] <bliss1_> adventchild: I do not have any movies I use a DVD on my labtop
[08:38] <PwcrLinux> type    free   to see the memory space
[08:38] <adventchild> sfar, where? at my local comp store a 20gb used is like $50....
[08:39] <DeadS0ul> can someone explain to me how do I admin ubuntu using sudo instead of root?
[08:39] <bliss1_> PwcrLinux; how to get it
[08:39] <sfar> adventchild: on ebay and sites like that :)
[08:39] <adventchild> lol
[08:39] <DeadS0ul> i got an authentication failure earlier and now I can't use su at all
[08:39] <DeadS0ul> sudo even
[08:39] <PwcrLinux> Bliss: go to terminal and type FREE to show of your ram memory
[08:39] <iceman> there a better email program for ubuntu
[08:39] <PwcrLinux> bliss: use all lower letters
[08:40] <adventchild> bliss1_, i download my movies...  my dvd player broke, but i only download the movies that i get from blockbuster, so its as if i am watching them on my dvd player...  but this laptop couldnt handle a dvdrom drive
[08:41] <adventchild> *blockbuster online
[08:41] <bliss1_> adventchild: nevermind Linux is after all command line stuff
[08:42] <adventchild> when i was running this comp with its 64mb ram thats when i had problems
[08:42] <adventchild> lol
[08:42] <bliss1_> PwcrLinux; got it wahat is -/+ buffers/cache:
[08:42] <adventchild> i just threw a 128mb pc133 stick in and it works fine now
[08:43] <bliss1_> advenchild: its a money thing new labtop
[08:44] <PwcrLinux> bliss: it's for CPU cache  (L1 and L2)
[08:44] <PwcrLinux> Bliss: I might not sure, prolly it's on CPU cache
[08:45] <kjd-ro> holobyted: sry but i lose what you are writing... can we go priv, with our conv. ?
[08:45] <bliss1_> PwcrLinux: well how does this free boost memory
[08:45] <holobyted> I'm about to go sleep :(
[08:45] <PwcrLinux> Bliss: what's your correct ram status right now?
[08:45] <kjd-ro> ah.. k
[08:46] <kjd-ro> good night.. it's morning right here
[08:46] <kjd-ro> 9:41
[08:46] <holobyted> 2 AM here
[08:46] <adventchild> 3 am here
[08:46] <PwcrLinux> 1:46 AM here
[08:46] <konfuzed> would anybody know if dapper would better handle a network card by nvidia 430/410 chipset before installing the nvidia drivers
[08:46] <DeadS0ul> dammit, i'm locked out from sudo for 15mins
[08:47] <konfuzed> my network card doesnt work so i cant download the nvidia drivers
[08:47] <bliss1_> PwcrLinux:            total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[08:47] <bliss1_> Mem:        710848     345376     365472          0      18804     203264
[08:47] <E4rlGrey> sfar: thanks for your help
[08:47] <konfuzed> not the one im on now
[08:47] <PwcrLinux> Bliss: okay what your ram stick installed size of MB or GB?
[08:48] <lokoit> hello
[08:48] <pabrero> loool
[08:48] <bliss1_> PwcrLinux: just added a extra 512mb to 256mb
[08:48] <lokoit> how do i know the version of my dhcpd? i installed it using apt-get install dhcpd
[08:48] <PwcrLinux> Bliss : 768 MB?
[08:48] <lokoit> and why is it that ddns-update-style parameter isnt working?
[08:49] <bliss1_> PxcrLinux: yep its much better now but could be better still WITHOUT celeron
[08:49] <adventchild> frostwire is using up almost all my ram and i still have no problems...lol i have 4936 free out of a total of 191880
[08:50] <PwcrLinux> Bliss: great, my free memory shows 776 MB, how it's strange and got a fattened up the extra ram...
[08:50] <samuel> hello
[08:50] <samuel> I am trying to install the latest kde but it installed most of the way but failed on some things, how do i fix this?
[08:50] <samuel> is there a command i can type..that will get the files it didnt get
[08:50] <samuel> would really appreciate your help
[08:51] <adventchild> !kde
[08:51] <ubotu> kde is, like, A powerful, free desktop environment for UNIX. IRC: #kubuntu #kde ; install from Ubuntu: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/
[08:51] <adventchild> join #kde
[08:51] <samuel> ok
[08:51] <samuel> thanks
[08:51] <adventchild> np
[08:51] <bliss1_> PwcrLinux: there has to be some prog that boosts RAM or makes your processor more efficient
[08:52] <adventchild> manually putting programs not in use into virtual memory should help, but idk if there is a way to do that
[08:53] <PwcrLinux> Bliss: it's does not boosting any ram,   I used on old windows 95 dos box and I typed "mem" to see check my ram..  same thing as free in the linux box
[08:53] <SD> hey any grub gurus here?
[08:54] <bliss1_> PwcrLinux: thanks time for a shower then its almost 8
[08:54] <adventchild> !grub
[08:54] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[08:54] <bliss1_> adventchild: thanks for your chat
[08:54] <PwcrLinux> Bliss: sure :)
[08:54] <Phlosten> can anyone recommend a a good cd ripper besides grip?
[08:54] <SD> mmmmmmmmm yes ive read most of those resources thanks aventchild
[08:54] <adventchild> bliss1_, yup...  come back soon...  ya hear?
[08:55] <SD> mine is a little more subtle, but i know it wud be easy for the right person
[08:55] <bliss1_> adventchild: geeting out of bed is a problem this morning but ok
[08:55] <adventchild> bliss1_, lol...  see ya around then
[08:56] <adventchild> brb
[09:01] <bliss1_> back again
[09:02] <bliss1_> how to install flash on ubuntu
[09:02] <PwcrLinux> in firefox browser?
[09:02] <bliss1_> PwcrLinux; yep
[09:03] <samuel> Ubuntu rocks my socks.
[09:03] <adventchild> back
[09:03] <subir> hi
[09:03] <PwcrLinux> Okay go to any website till you see the yellow bar "Plugin missing" and click that button to install it
[09:03] <subir> can someone help me install usplash
[09:04] <thoreauputic> !flash
[09:04] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:04] <adventchild> !usplash
[09:04] <ubotu> hmm... usplash is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto
[09:04] <bliss1_> PwacrLinux: I think i  tried that but it did not work
[09:04] <samuel> what is the best way to install the drivers for a radeon agp card?
[09:04] <thoreauputic> !ati
[09:04] <ubotu> it has been said that ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[09:05] <PwcrLinux> Bliss: try use as ubotu's show link above..
[09:06] <adventchild> bliss1_ PwcrLinux, i only have 5mb of ram free and i am running fine lol
[09:07] <bliss1_> aventchild: well your just a good example of being efficient
[09:07] <adventchild> lol
[09:07] <PwcrLinux> Adv: Hmm.. seem good, because you have a swap on the hard drive, don't worry about system getting sluggish..
[09:07] <thoreauputic> adventchild: 5MB free is too much - you are wasting 5MB of RAm :)
[09:08] <bliss1_> adventchild: this lol I have it in the old grenn lanten comics
[09:08] <bliss1_> green lanten
[09:08] <subir> ubotu, thnx, but i want to install usplash on NepaLinux, a debian-based system
[09:08] <ubotu> I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, subir
[09:08] <adventchild> ubuntu is a deb sys
[09:08] <thoreauputic> subir: then why are you asking on an Ubuntu channel?
[09:08] <adventchild> !usplash
[09:08] <ubotu> usplash is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto
[09:09] <bliss1_> PwcrLinux: which link there are three
[09:09] <adventchild> im running x-chat, frostwire, totem, terminal, gaim and rythmbox...
[09:09] <thoreauputic> subir: BTW, ubotu is a bot :)
[09:09] <PwcrLinux> !flash
[09:09] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:09] <thoreauputic> !ubotu
[09:09] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[09:09] <adventchild> !hug
 gives adventchild a hug.  There, there, is that better?
[09:10] <adventchild> see ya slavik
[09:10] <slavik> night all
[09:10] <bigmanalpha> Can anybody explain this error in the terminal when I try to download? "W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[09:10] <bigmanalpha> "
[09:10] <adventchild> lol
[09:10] <thoreauputic> bigmanalpha: and did you do that?
[09:10] <adventchild> run sudo apt-get update
[09:10] <bliss1_> thoreauputic; morning
[09:10] <bigmanalpha> thoreauputic: yes, it generates a similar message
[09:11] <thoreauputic> bigmanalpha: that wasn't the full error , was it?
[09:11] <thoreauputic> bliss1_: good evening :)
[09:11] <bigmanalpha> thoreauputic: No...theres mention of a CD-ROM also...
[09:11] <thoreauputic> bigmanalpha: put the error on pastebin
[09:11] <bliss1_> eveing ok  good evening-)
[09:11] <thoreauputic> !pastebin
[09:11] <ubotu> well, pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[09:12] <adventchild> bigmanalpha, try running 'sudo apt-get update'
[09:12] <bigmanalpha> Fetched 3B in 0s (4B/s)
[09:12] <bigmanalpha> Failed to fetch cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012)] /dists/breezy/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs
[09:12] <bigmanalpha> Failed to fetch cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012)] /dists/breezy/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs
[09:12] <bigmanalpha> Reading package lists... Done
[09:12] <bigmanalpha> W: Couldn't stat source package list cdrom://Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012) breezy/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/Ubuntu%205.10%20%5fBreezy%20Badger%5f%20-%20Release%20i386%20(20051012)_dists_breezy_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[09:12] <bigmanalpha> W: Couldn't stat source package list cdrom://Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012) breezy/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/Ubuntu%205.10%20%5fBreezy%20Badger%5f%20-%20Release%20i386%20(20051012)_dists_breezy_restricted_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[09:12] <adventchild> yo!
[09:12] <bigmanalpha> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[09:12] <adventchild> !pastebin
[09:12] <ubotu> I heard pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[09:12] <Hobbsee> bigmanalpha: do not paste!
[09:12] <_Rappy_> I got a printer here which hangs. lpq tells me it got 3 documents waiting. How can I cleare the queue/remove the documents?
[09:12] <PwcrLinux> Thor: My free command line show 776 MB of ram, how's it's impossible fattened up the extra ram space on my 512MB and 256MB lappy ram (total 768 MB)?
[09:13] <thoreauputic> bigmanalpha: NEVER paste in here
[09:13] <bliss1_> PwcrLinux: cannot see link sorry for flash
[09:13] <adventchild> thoreauputic, may i have voice for like 1 min to yell? lol
[09:13] <adventchild> j/k
[09:13] <thoreauputic> bigmanalpha: I told you to use the pastebin
[09:13] <adventchild> !pastebin
[09:13] <ubotu> I heard pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[09:13] <bigmanalpha> my mistake.
[09:14] <bliss1_> how to insert nick without typeing it every time???????/
[09:14] <adventchild> paste the link from pastebin here
[09:14] <thoreauputic> bliss1_: tab complete
[09:15] <adventchild> type, for mine, ad <tab>
[09:15] <thoreauputic> bliss1_: like thore <tab>
[09:15] <bliss1_> thore?
[09:15] <wantime> hi all, i'm a noobie and have installed kde-desktop over gnome - it is default now.  How do i make gnome default again without completely getting rid of kde?
[09:15] <sfar> bliss1_: tab key works in terminal also! :D
[09:15] <thoreauputic> bliss1_: erm - hit the tab key
[09:15] <adventchild> hit thor, then the tab key
[09:16] <adventchild> ...
[09:16] <bigmanalpha> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11513
[09:16] <PwcrLinux> thoreauputic: My free command line show 776 MB of ram, how's it's impossible fattened up the extra ram space on my 512MB and 256MB lappy ram (total 768 MB)?
[09:16] <zezu> can i mount an iso on a linux patition and install from that ?
[09:16] <thoreauputic> sfar: beware - I have super cow powers :)
[09:16] <rob> heh
[09:16] <zezu> i want to install ubuntu to test with on a machine w/o a cdrom or network
[09:16] <zezu> but it has usb for a usbdrive so i can get the iso on it
[09:17] <rob> super duper cow powers?
[09:17] <bliss1_> umm well
[09:17] <thoreauputic> PwcrLinux: well, yes that looks unlikely indeed
[09:17] <thoreauputic> sfar: I'm not bribeable ;-)
[09:17] <adventchild> moo
[09:17] <thoreauputic> apt-get moo
[09:17] <bliss1_> PwcrLinux: link to flash?
[09:18] <adventchild> thoreauputic, do you by chance know anyone going under the alias of moo? (it was like 5-6 years ago she used it)
[09:18] <PwcrLinux> Bliss: I dunno... try macromeda flash (sp?) website
[09:18] <thoreauputic> adventchild: nope. Nut i know about the apt-get moo  easter egg :)
[09:18] <bliss1_> on boot up and shut down where are logs kept if you need to look at them
[09:19] <thoreauputic> bliss1_:  dmesg
[09:19] <adventchild> thoreauputic, and what exactly does apt-get moo do?
[09:19] <coffeetable> HELP! This is urgent, i'm on the live cd now and my ubuntu system on the hard disk ain't booting because it keeps checking the root filesystem and always fails! how do i skip past this check?
[09:19] <thoreauputic> adventchild: try it :)
[09:19] <adventchild> lol
[09:19] <hyphenated> thoreauputic: hehe neat (the easter egg)
[09:19] <adventchild> i will
[09:19] <bliss1_> thoreauputic thanks
[09:19] <sfar> lol thoreauputic :D
[09:20] <thoreauputic> :)
[09:20] <bliss1_> ubot: tell bliss1 about flash
[09:20] <thoreauputic> !tell bliss1_ about flash
[09:20] <adventchild> thoreauputic, funny, but corny...  that moo cow needs to be put down...  its got mad cow thingy
[09:20] <coffeetable> HELP! This is urgent, i'm on the live cd now and my ubuntu system on the hard disk ain't booting because it keeps checking the root filesystem and always fails! how do i skip past this check?
[09:20] <bliss1_> Frogzoo; I did it
[09:20] <adventchild> !patience
[09:20] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Please be aware there are a lot of questions, but only maybe few who might know the answer for you. Please be patient. Your attitude may determine their willingness to help you.
[09:21] <thoreauputic> adventchild: you think that's corny - try  aptitude -v moo
[09:21] <adventchild> ...
[09:21] <thoreauputic> then add v
[09:21] <thoreauputic> and do it again
[09:21] <adventchild> lmao
[09:21] <adventchild> this aptitude does not have super cow powers
[09:21] <adventchild> hahaha
[09:21] <adventchild> wow
[09:22] <adventchild> o.O
[09:22] <_jason> adventchild: keep adding v's aptitude -v -v moo
[09:22] <thoreauputic> adventchild: keep adding v
[09:22] <hubuntu> I need help. My new clone dosktop pc only works wits ubuntu live cd. I'm trying to run xp, but it keeps freezing when I stick usb memory in it? Any suggestions?
[09:22] <coffeetable> i'll go check the wiki until i get an answer
[09:22] <thoreauputic> hubuntu: yes - run ubuntu on it :)
[09:23] <adventchild> after 6 it stays the same?
[09:23] <hubuntu> maybe i'll just forget xp, yeah! Good Idea! =)
[09:23] <adventchild> window$ $ux
[09:23] <adventchild> mem eater
[09:23] <adventchild> ubuntu rulez
[09:23] <coffeetable> not window$
[09:23] <coffeetable> it's called windoze ;)
[09:24] <thoreauputic> windows bashing -->>> #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:24] <adventchild> sry
[09:24] <adventchild> sometimes i cant help it...  know what i mean thoreauputic?
[09:24] <thoreauputic> adventchild: absolutely
[09:24] <adventchild> lol...  any other eggs?
[09:24] <thoreauputic> adventchild: but remember that newcomers won't get it
[09:25] <adventchild> lol tru
[09:25] <adventchild> e
[09:25] <coffeetable> does anybody have a clue as to how to skip that filesystem check at ubuntu boot?
[09:25] <adventchild> coffeetable, idk...  im new to linux
[09:25] <thoreauputic> coffeetable: it should only happen once every 30 or so boots
[09:25] <hubuntu> that years
[09:26] <thoreauputic> coffeetable: unless you just mean the initial stuff before the splash
[09:26] <adventchild> moooooooooooooooo
[09:26] <coffeetable> thoreauputic: yes, 30 or so boots, but i need to disable it for good now
[09:26] <thoreauputic> coffeetable: why?
[09:26] <adventchild> i dont think you can disable it for good...
[09:27] <coffeetable> thoreauputic: the problem is my hard disk is physically damaged
[09:27] <thoreauputic> coffeetable: it's there for a reason....
[09:27] <coffeetable> thoreauputic: and it keeps failingn
[09:27] <adventchild> put it in a mac and run a low lev format
[09:27] <thoreauputic> coffeetable: well, you need a new hard drive then don't you?
[09:27] <coffeetable> thoreauputic: i know it's there but it keeps failing and won't let me boot!
[09:27] <adventchild> coffeetable, put it in a mac and run a low lev format
[09:27] <hubuntu> are you saying ubuntu broke your hd? =O
[09:27] <thoreauputic> coffeetable: erm - your hard drive is dead
[09:27] <Frogzoo> Does anyone know if prelinking causes problems with wine? I've removed the prelinking, but still can't get wine to work, which it did before I enabled the prelinking
[09:27] <adventchild> that should fix it
[09:27] <coffeetable> thoreauputic: new hard drive? i have tried convincing my dad for ages to get me one
[09:28] <PwcrLinux> Coffee: is the SMART detection errors that tells you "Imminent detected"?
[09:28] <coffeetable> pwcrlinux: no
[09:28] <thoreauputic> coffeetable: well, your data is probably gone by now -you shouldn't reboot a damaged hard drive
[09:28] <coffeetable> and the nearest mac is real far away
[09:28] <zezu> anyone? way to install linux from iso file ? i know its done on jumpdrives so its possible
[09:28] <PwcrLinux> Coffee: or HD led stays on for long time?
[09:28] <adventchild> Frogzoo, wine is very tempermental
[09:28] <coffeetable> thoreauputic: i don't mind losing my data, i don't HAVE any anyway, that's all fine
[09:29] <adventchild> deamon tools...   virtually mount a cd drive
[09:29] <adventchild> run iso from there
[09:29] <JViz> I'm making an Ubuntu killer distro
[09:29] <thoreauputic> coffeetable: I can't wave a magic wand that will fix a dead hard drive, sorry
[09:29] <JViz> It's called Ooba-tooba
[09:29] <Frogzoo> adventchild: but if I put back in place what used to work, it should work, unless the packaging has a bug & isn't uninstalling stuff properly
[09:29] <coffeetable> thoreauputic: i'm not asking you to
[09:29] <adventchild> coffeetable, try to freeze it
[09:30] <coffeetable> thoreauputic: all i want to know is just how to skip that check.
[09:30] <sfar> heh, i've also heard that sometimes it helps putting dead hard drives in the freezer
[09:30] <adventchild> ^^^^^^^^^^
[09:30] <coffeetable> thoreauputic: i'm on a laptop.
[09:30] <adventchild> i just said that ;p;
[09:30] <PwcrLinux> coffee: or HD led stays on for long time?
[09:30] <adventchild> so?
[09:30] <adventchild> freeze it for like 2 hrs
[09:30] <Frogzoo> adventchild: I had winetools working fine with 20050725 - now the ie6 install craps out & it's a problem (I had enabled prelinking, but also had tried out 0.9.11 and a few others)
[09:31] <adventchild> ie6 has been known to crash with wine
[09:31] <adventchild> !wine
[09:31] <zezu> adventchild, uh .....
[09:31] <adventchild> ...
[09:31] <coffeetable> adventchild: i can't freeze it'
[09:31] <adventchild> !tell Frogzoo about wine
[09:31] <adventchild> coffeetable, why not?
[09:31] <zezu> :) daemon tools for linux ?
[09:31] <thoreauputic> coffeetable: well, my laptop doesn't fsck if it's on battery power
[09:31] <coffeetable> adventchild: it's physically damaged
[09:32] <coffeetable> thoreauputic: i'll try running it on battery
[09:32] <adventchild> coffeetable, wont stop you from freezing it
[09:32] <thoreauputic> coffeetable: but I suspect you just can't boot it if it is damaged
[09:32] <Frogzoo> adventchild: but I had this working nicely before, if I follow the same install process & it fails, then there's something wrong with the packaging
[09:32] <coffeetable> thoreauputic: that's all just fine and dandy, but what im asking is just one little question
[09:33] <adventchild> i have frozen hds that would not work if the genie in a bottle came out and tryed to fix it, and they came back to life for a little while
[09:33] <thoreauputic> coffeetable: how are you going to issue commands to a system that won't boot?
[09:33] <adventchild> Frogzoo, idk...  im new to the linux thing, but try to remove it and reinstall
[09:33] <coffeetable> thoreauputic: give me a yes or no answer. do you know how to skip that check?
[09:33] <adventchild> NO
[09:33] <PwcrLinux> coffeetable: I've experinced with hard drive deaths many times.. either SMART detection or HD led light stays on for long time, I knew it's dead and I bought new lappy hard drive and installed the ubuntu distro into the whole lappy hard drive, it's works great..
[09:33] <thoreauputic> coffeetable: I think if you read what I said you'll see what I mean
[09:34] <adventchild> you cant skip it if you cant read or write anything to it...  TRY TO FREEZE IT! TRUST THAT!!!
[09:34] <coffeetable> thoreauputic: i get what you say but i know exactly what i'm doing here
[09:34] <thoreauputic> coffeetable: how can you tell the system not to fsck if you can't get a shell ?
[09:34] <coffeetable> adventchild: chill, easy.
[09:34] <thoreauputic> coffeetable: in that case you don't need my help :)
[09:34] <adventchild> lol
[09:34] <coffeetable> thoreauputic: lol, nice one.
[09:35] <Frogzoo> adventchild: yes, it's the right approach, but already tried - I'm thinking the packaging is leaving remnants when uninstalling so the new install isn' clean, and fails
[09:35] <eobanb> i think coffeetable is asking if there's some boot parameter he can use to disable fsck....perfectly reasonable question if you ask me
[09:35] <adventchild> Frogzoo, hunt and peck for leftovers
[09:35] <coffeetable> thoreauputic: but i jst need to know one thing. do. you. know. how. to skip that check? if yes, say yes, if no, say no!
[09:35] <pappan> anybody connecting wireless here ?
[09:35] <adventchild> Frogzoo, thats about all i know about that...  sry...  thoreauputic may be able to help further
[09:35] <adventchild> !woreless
[09:35] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, adventchild
[09:35] <adventchild> !wireless
[09:35] <ubotu> wireless is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers
[09:36] <pappan> there seems to be a bug
[09:36] <adventchild> ?
[09:36] <iceman> is there a way to figure out why kde type rate... i have to hold keys down for like 10 seconds for  a single letter
[09:36] <eobanb> pappan i'm afraid you're going to have to be WAY more specific than that
[09:36] <thoreauputic> coffeetable: if you can chroot to the drive, issue  shutdown -f now
[09:37] <thoreauputic> coffeetable: the -f flag means "skip fsck on boot"
[09:37] <iceman> how to uninstall KDE .. then reinstall
[09:37] <adventchild> pappan, bug....  ????????????????????????
[09:37] <adventchild> wassup?
[09:37] <thoreauputic> coffeetable: you might need the -r flag for reboot
[09:37] <Piete> iceman, it's a pain, because it consists of so many different packages...
[09:38] <pappan> i connected here thru normal network cable
[09:38] <thoreauputic> coffeetable: so  shutdown -r -f now
[09:38] <coffeetable> thoreauputic: thank you, that is exactly what i need to know.
[09:38] <adventchild> ok?
[09:38] <bliss1_> Frogzoo: thanks  very muchfor your help over the last weel with qemu up and running without kqenu
[09:38] <pappan> then i enabled wireless which was not working
[09:38] <Piete> iceman, but when you reinstall, make sure to use the kde-desktop package, not just 'kde', otherwise you end up with a load of useless stuff....
[09:38] <adventchild> enable wireless @ boot
[09:38] <thoreauputic> coffeetable: you have maybe one chance in a thousand that it will work :)
[09:38] <pappan> suddenly my connection stopped
[09:38] <thoreauputic> coffeetable: good luck
[09:38] <adventchild> pappan, try 'sudo aptitude install ndiswrapper'
[09:38] <bliss1_> void^ hi
[09:38] <coffeetable> thoreauputic: thanks. i'll hopefully see you later
[09:39] <pappan> adventchild, yes i will try that
[09:39] <iceman> cannot figure out why my typwent to heck in KDE
[09:39] <PwcrLinux> Pappan: what kernel version you have now?
[09:39] <jerzee1213> Anybody here play Crossfire?
[09:39] <iceman> Piete i'll sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop to reinstall
[09:40] <adventchild> i have 5.10...  i love breezy badger, but i have heard good things about warthog
[09:40] <pappan> breezy
[09:40] <pappan> PwcrLinux, breezy
[09:40] <PwcrLinux> pappan: type /sv  and see the kernel version..
[09:41] <pappan> Linux ubuntu 2.6.12-9-386 #1 Mon Oct 10 13:14:36 BST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[09:41] <thoreauputic> PwcrLinux: you need to run apt-get upgrade on that machine
[09:42] <thoreauputic> PwcrLinux: that kernel is old
[09:42] <eobanb> you mean sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:42] <adventchild> no
[09:42] <adventchild> sudo apt-get upgrade
[09:42] <thoreauputic> PwcrLinux: you should have 2.6.12-10
[09:42] <PwcrLinux> thoreauputic: yea, the update notification on the bar now, and I will do upgrade later..
[09:42] <pappan> PwcrLinux,  Linux ubuntu 2.6.12-9-386 #1 Mon Oct 10 13:14:36 BST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[09:42] <thoreauputic> PwcrLinux: OK :)
[09:43] <thoreauputic> eobanb: yes of course
[09:43] <thoreauputic> eobanb: old habits...
[09:43] <adventchild> pappan, did you run sudo aptitude install ndiswrapper?
[09:43] <adventchild> sudo apt-get upgrade worked for me
[09:43] <pappan> adventchild, i may not be able to do right now
[09:43] <pappan> adventchild, i will try it today night
[09:43] <thoreauputic> adventchild: right - I just forgot the sudo bit
[09:43] <pappan> thanks
[09:44] <pappan> bye all
[09:44] <PwcrLinux> Thore: how I get upgrade a firefox version 1.5? the FireFTP cannot install on 1.0.7
[09:44] <thoreauputic> adventchild: I used to run debian and I sometimes forget to include it on IRC :)
[09:44] <adventchild> lol
[09:44] <adventchild> i didnt even notice
[09:44] <adventchild> i thought i saw a sudo
[09:44] <adventchild> lol
[09:44] <thoreauputic> ;-)
[09:44] <PwcrLinux> lol
[09:45] <samuel> how do i know if my ati card is working ?
[09:45] <adventchild> thanks alot...
[09:45] <thoreauputic> you're welcome
[09:45] <thoreauputic> happy reading...
[09:45] <adventchild> thoreauputic, take me to the hospital before i sue you!
[09:45] <eobanb> samuel, do you see a desktop environment on the screen?
[09:45] <adventchild> lol
[09:45] <samuel> the driver I mean lol
[09:45] <bliss1_> thoreauputic: how did you find debian rock soild  or was not to your taste
[09:45] <thoreauputic> adventchild: sue me - I haven't any money anyway :)
[09:45] <Flyoc> Hi
[09:45] <eobanb> samuel, run glxinfo?
[09:46] <thoreauputic> bliss1_: rock solid yes
[09:46] <adventchild> thoreauputic, but you have at least 1 box...
[09:46] <adventchild> ;-P
[09:46] <PwcrLinux> thoreauputic:  how I get upgrade a firefox version 1.5? the FireFTP cannot install on 1.0.7
[09:46] <thoreauputic> bliss1_: I just prefer Ubuntu now
[09:46] <Flyoc> I'm looking for a FTP client with multi-threads AND resume support, command line if possible. DOes that exist ?
[09:46] <bliss1_> why?
[09:46] <thoreauputic> !firefox1.5
[09:46] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[09:46] <PwcrLinux> :)
[09:47] <adventchild> thoreauputic, know much about tripwire?
[09:47] <bliss1_> thoreauputic: why more support
[09:47] <thoreauputic> adventchild: nope
[09:47] <adventchild> anything like it?
[09:47] <thoreauputic> bliss1_: I prefer the community, and it fixed some issues with my hardware that I was too lazy to hack around :)
[09:47] <jenda-busy> Does Unicode have a copyleft character?
[09:48] <samuel> samuel OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[09:48] <samuel> samuel OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[09:48] <samuel> samuel OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.2.1)
[09:48] <samuel> is that right?
[09:48] <adventchild> !pastebin
[09:48] <ubotu> I guess pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[09:48] <thoreauputic> adventchild: well, it was only  3 lines
[09:48] <adventchild> thoreauputic, so? shouldnt get in the habbit
[09:49] <samuel> sorry
[09:49] <adventchild> np
[09:49] <samuel> is MESA wrong?
[09:49] <sfar> 3 lines is OK
[09:49] <adventchild> just a bad habbit to get into
[09:49] <thoreauputic> adventchild: heh - you have op aspirations ? *grin*
[09:49] <adventchild> thoreauputic, maybe...
[09:49] <bliss1_> thoreauputic: i must say that ubuntu forum here and is the best place for linux and a linux newbie beyond any question of a doubt
[09:49] <thompa> !realplayer
[09:49] <ubotu> I guess realplayer is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:49] <adventchild> i agree with bliss1_
[09:50] <adventchild> many places are not newbie friendly
[09:50] <samuel> anyone know if my driver is working based on my paste?
[09:50] <iceman> is the a apt-get type command to uninstall
[09:51] <thoreauputic> oops
[09:51] <bliss1_> adventchild: yes I will take a bet on it
[09:51] <adventchild> thanks alot... Mr. i have moo powers\
[09:51] <thoreauputic> adventchild: ;-)
[09:51] <samuel> can anyone help before i shoot myself?
[09:52] <bliss1_> adventchild; I asked a question in debian forun a week ago about segmentation still no answer
[09:52] <thompa> so why no libstdc
[09:52] <adventchild> lol
[09:52] <adventchild> see?
[09:52] <iceman> the a uninstall command like apt-get installs
[09:53] <sfar> wee i stopped you from killing yourself!
[09:53] <adventchild> thoreauputic, what would be the quickest way to op status? ;-P
[09:53] <iceman> samuel falls to floor bleeding ... its a flesh wound
[09:53] <thoreauputic> adventchild: being helpful and getting asked ;)
[09:53] <adventchild> j/k
[09:53] <bliss1_> threauputic: cuop de what
[09:53] <adventchild> dont ban me again plz
[09:53] <adventchild> that was not nice
[09:54] <thoreauputic> bliss1_: google is your friend ;-)
[09:54] <adventchild> i did nothing wrong
[09:54] <sfar> adventchild: he was just preventing you from flooding the channel
[09:54] <thoreauputic> adventchild: oh you poor thing ;)
[09:54] <adventchild> lol
[09:54] <sfar> adventchild: so you wouldnt get in the habit
[09:54] <iceman> ? Uninstall ? there a command for uninstall ... to remove KDe .. completly
[09:54] <thoreauputic> sfar: no I was just kidding around
[09:54] <sfar> so am i
[09:54] <bliss1_> thoreuputic: you ban people can you ban me?
[09:55] <adventchild> iceman, yeah...  format
[09:55] <adventchild> lol
[09:55] <thoreauputic> adventchild: actually it was a +q not a ban
[09:55] <adventchild> eh...  same thing...  still couldnt talk
[09:55] <iceman> format a little extreeme .. dont tempt me ...
[09:55] <thoreauputic> bliss1_: I could - but I'm too nice ;-)
[09:55] <bliss1_> thoreauputic:you could o I see your an op admin
[09:55] <adventchild> sure you are
[09:56] <iceman> i take it there is no uninstall command ... :(
[09:56] <thoreauputic> adventchild: you noticed I hope, that I removed the gag rather quickly :)
[09:56] <adventchild> iceman, idk, but try sudo apt-get remove kde?
[09:56] <adventchild> nooooooooooo
[09:56] <iceman> so, can't uninstall .. KDE and it's toast .. so reformat i may ..
[09:57] <thoreauputic> adventchild: won't work - kde is a metapackage
[09:57] <john937> anyone femular with appache?
[09:57] <john937> quick question very simple
[09:57] <adventchild> idk....
[09:57] <adventchild> !appache
[09:57] <ubotu> adventchild: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:57] <Madpilot> !apache
[09:57] <ubotu> apache is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[09:57] <john937>  sudo smbmount //student-0853fde/WD Combo (I) /home/ftp/Drive4 -o ro
[09:57] <adventchild> oops
[09:57] <bliss1_> advevtchild: --purge command if you did it with dkpg
[09:57] <john937> theres a space in my wd combo
[09:57] <iceman> that did it .. now a way to rebuild kde ...
[09:57] <john937> what do i do?
[09:57] <thoreauputic> iceman: sudo apt-get remove libqt* woud probably do it -
[09:58] <john937> trying to put that on my ftp
[09:58] <thoreauputic> iceman: but I suggest using deborphan
[09:58] <john937> can someone help me out please its 5am
[09:58] <adventchild> !patience
[09:58] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Please be aware there are a lot of questions, but only maybe few who might know the answer for you. Please be patient. Your attitude may determine their willingness to help you.
[09:58] <iceman> confusing .. why my type rate went poop in kde
[09:58] <RabidDog_> is there a reapir option for ubuntu, I installed a new gfx card, and would like ubuntu to reconfgure xorg and gnome for me?
[09:59] <adventchild> john937, try using an _ instead of a <space>
[09:59] <iceman> have to press a key for 5 to 10 second for  a single letter
[09:59] <john937> ok thanks adventchild ill try it
[09:59] <bliss1_> adventchild; ok my boss phoned I have to start a audit so must this time
[09:59] <bliss1_> go
[09:59] <thoreauputic> RabidDog_: you can run  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:59] <john937> nope not that
[09:59] <adventchild> bliss1_, well i will be here after school tomorrow...  see ya then
[09:59] <adventchild> gn
[09:59] <john937> adventchild
[09:59] <RabidDog_> thoreauputic, ty
[09:59] <adventchild> gm
[09:59] <john937> what else
[09:59] <PwcrLinux> gn advent
[09:59] <john937> :(
[10:00] <adventchild> john937, ?
[10:00] <john937> "_"not working
[10:00] <adventchild> idk...  thoreauputic ?
[10:00] <john937> whats that?
[10:00] <adventchild> a sysop
[10:00] <adventchild> lol
[10:00] <john937> for ex
[10:00] <PwcrLinux> Oh yea, looks like old BBS lol
[10:01] <john937> WD Combo (I) show me examples to ignorge the space
[10:01] <john937> ....
[10:01] <john937> please someone
[10:01] <adventchild> - _
[10:01] <john937> appache i need this going its 5am
[10:01] <thoreauputic> !enter
[10:01] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[10:01] <john937> -_
[10:01] <john937> ?
[10:01] <bliss1_> thoreauputic; just before I go going install sarge on virtual qemu wish me the best
[10:01] <thoreauputic> john937: stop being annoying
[10:01] <john937> i am so sleepy
[10:02] <adventchild> yeah...  thoreauputic ...  dont use !enter...  it spams the channel
[10:02] <adventchild> lol
[10:02] <john937> been up all night doing this
[10:02] <adventchild> (dont ban me again plz)
[10:02] <thoreauputic> john937: get some sleep :)
[10:02] <john937> ill leave once i get this resoulved
[10:02] <thoreauputic> adventchild: OK - for now :)
[10:02] <adventchild> lol
[10:02] <john937> i need serious help
[10:02] <adventchild> ;-P
[10:03] <adventchild> john937, want me to give you my therapist's #?
[10:03] <adventchild> lol
[10:03] <RabidDog_> thoreauputic, says that pkg is not installed
[10:03] <john937> you guys are mean
[10:03] <thoreauputic> RabidDog_: erm
[10:03] <john937> :(
[10:03] <john937> you dont have a clue?
[10:03] <thoreauputic> RabidDog_:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:03] <adventchild> never used apache
[10:04] <thoreauputic> john937: final warning
[10:04] <adventchild> !tell john937 about apache
[10:04] <adventchild> thoreauputic, any other easter eggs?
[10:04] <adventchild> lol
[10:04] <rubso> there is no mplayer in apt-get guys !
[10:04] <rubso> any idea?
[10:04] <adventchild> Super Cow Power Moo Man?
[10:04] <_jason> ubotu: tell rubso about mplayer
[10:04] <thoreauputic> adventchild: no, I'm not feelinggenerous  ;-)
[10:05] <_jason> rubso: (you need multiverse)
[10:05] <adventchild> your mean thoreauputic
[10:05] <rubso> yeah, i checked on community
[10:05] <thoreauputic> adventchild: you ain'r seen nothin' yet, kid ;-)
[10:05] <_jason> adventchild: you can play star wars in OOo calc
[10:05] <rubso> i checked on all repositories
[10:06] <thoreauputic> !mplayer-586
[10:06] <ubotu> thoreauputic: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:06] <_jason> rubso: you can put your /etc/apt/sources.list on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/  if you want.  Enabling multiverse requires more than checking
[10:06] <thoreauputic> !info mplayer-586
[10:06] <ubotu> mplayer-586: (The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 1:1.0-pre7cvs20050716-0.1ubuntu9.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 3526 kB, Installed size: 7940 kB
[10:06] <adventchild> !info mplayer-386
[10:06] <ubotu> mplayer-386: (The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 1:1.0-pre7cvs20050716-0.1ubuntu9.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 3568 kB, Installed size: 8132 kB
[10:06] <thoreauputic> rubso:  apt-cache search mplayer
[10:06] <rubso> ;)
[10:06] <thoreauputic> Rubin: there are several
[10:06] <chenjf> john937: try double qoute it
[10:07] <adventchild> thoreauputic, check out my processor speed
[10:07] <rubso> thoreauputic: i got mozilla-mplayer ! only!
[10:07] <thoreauputic> *yawns
[10:07] <rubso> yeah
[10:07] <adventchild> *yawns back
[10:07] <thoreauputic> rubso: then your apt sources are misconfigured
[10:07] <rubso> i'm 100% sure its well configured
[10:07] <_jason> starbucks...
[10:07] <Hexidigital> anyone know if Ubuntu supports similar hardware sensor monitoring that Intel does for Windows?  i.e. Intel Active Monitor?
[10:08] <thoreauputic> PwcrLinux: thanks :)
[10:08] <adventchild> !tell Rubin about sources
[10:08] <thoreauputic> !tell rubso about sources
[10:08] <rubso> thoreauputic: what's the sources are you using?
[10:08] <_jason> rubso: it would be a lot easier if you just pastebinned them...
[10:08] <thoreauputic> adventchild: you won!
[10:08] <adventchild> oops...  wrong person tho
[10:08] <_jason> -1
[10:08] <rubso> pastebin !? allright
[10:08] <adventchild> !pastebin
[10:08] <ubotu> methinks pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[10:09] <thoreauputic> Rubin: read my lips: if you can't find mplayer with apt-cache search mplayer, you need to fix your sources
[10:09] <thoreauputic> ;)
[10:09] <_jason> heh poor Rubin
[10:09] <rubso> i'm rubso !
[10:09] <thoreauputic> hah
[10:09] <adventchild> text thoreauputic...  read my text
[10:09] <rubso> well, what's the sources you use?
[10:10] <thoreauputic> adventchild: unnecessarily pedantic - minus 1
[10:10] <samuel> what is the command to test ati drivers?
[10:10] <adventchild> using the tab complete doesnt always work to the lazy persons advantage
[10:10] <PwcrLinux> case sententives :)
[10:11] <adventchild> thoreauputic, how do you do that? i forgot i think....
[10:11] <rubso> lol, i'm an old redhat/fedora user, man this distro made my day :P ubuntu community is love
[10:11] <thoreauputic> rubso: did you bother to read what ubotu said?
[10:11] <rubso> who's ubotu?
[10:11] <_jason> !ubotu
[10:11] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[10:11] <thoreauputic> adventchild: you mean  /me admits to laziness  ?
[10:12] <adventchild> !tell rubso about sources
[10:12] <rubso> yeah i paste it there ;) check it out
[10:12] <_jason> rubso: url?
[10:12] <thoreauputic> !sources
[10:12] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[10:12] <rubso> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d11515
[10:12] <Hexidigital> i just downloaded the webboard for gnome... how do i install a .deb package in ubuntu?
[10:12] <thoreauputic> rubso: enough info now ? *grin*
[10:12] <_jason> ....
[10:12] <_jason> rubso: are you kidding?
[10:12] <adventchild> dpkg -i <filename>
[10:12] <rubso> what?! no
[10:13] <_jason> rubso: why would you pastebin ``i'm sure 100% that i've configured synaptic sources well, but no sign of mplayer, all i get is mozilla-mplayer -_-. THAT'S IT !''
[10:13] <adventchild> Hexidigital,  sudo dpkg -i <filename>
[10:13] <samuel> _jason bro, how do i get my ati card to work i followed the steps but i dont think i installed the kernel source
[10:13] <rubso> what should i paste then ? this the first time i use that application -_- "pastebin"
[10:13] <Hexidigital> thanks adventchild
[10:13] <adventchild> Hexidigital, yup
[10:13] <adventchild> Hexidigital, if that fails, come back
[10:13] <Hexidigital> will do :)
[10:13] <_jason> rubso: 'gedit /etc/apt/sources.list' in a terminal and then copy and paste everything into pastebin
[10:14] <Krikey> im having some problems configuring Ubunti 5.10 with dual monitor support and dont know where to start
[10:14] <Krikey> can anyone help
[10:14] <rubso> then i should copy sources.list, without saying anything to describe the problem?
[10:14] <_jason> samuel: have you gone through the wiki?  I've only used nvidia so I don't know how to set up ati's
[10:15] <_jason> rubso: correct, the purpose of that site is so you don't flood this channel
[10:15] <RabidDog_> thoreauputic, are u thinking this is debian, because I can't get that command to work, ubuntu breezy uses xorg-common I think
[10:15] <samuel> yes
[10:15] <rubso> uh huh ! nice one !
[10:15] <samuel> where do i get the kernel source?
[10:15] <thoreauputic> RabidDog_: no, that command is right
[10:15] <iceman> great ... trashed a install
[10:15] <RabidDog_> says xserver-xorg is not installed
[10:15] <thoreauputic> RabidDog_: if you don't have xserver-xorg, install it
[10:16] <Hexidigital> adventchild, to my knowledge, it installed okay... but now i can't run it
[10:16] <_jason> samuel: you need kernel source to install ati drivers?
[10:16] <RabidDog_> k
[10:16] <rubso> _jason: check this out http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d11516
[10:16] <Hexidigital> from terminal, i type webboard, and i get a bunch of errors
[10:16] <adventchild> !webboard
[10:16] <ubotu> [webboard]  an application which allows easy pasting to pastebin web sites from your gnome taskbar.
[10:16] <thoreauputic> RabidDog_: if you have X, you have xserver-xorg
[10:16] <Krikey> can anyone help with dual monitor support
[10:16] <samuel> i think so...
[10:16] <samuel> it installed
[10:16] <RabidDog_> I must have uninstalled it when I was trying to get it working earlier
[10:17] <_jason> ubotu: tell rubso about easysource
[10:17] <samuel> but it says it isnt direct rendering
[10:17] <samuel> or something
[10:17] <adventchild> idk...  thoreauputic how do you run webboard after dpkging it?
[10:17] <thoreauputic> RabidDog_: well, without xorg you can't run X at al :)
[10:17] <_jason> rubso: make yourself a new one, and replace your current one.  use the command: gksudo 'gedit /etc/apt/sources.list'
[10:17] <thoreauputic> adventchild: no idea - never used it
[10:17] <rubso> ok
[10:17] <PwcrLinux> Oh boy, my gf woke up
[10:17] <adventchild> Hexidigital, did you read documentation about it:?
[10:18] <adventchild> did it come with a readme?
[10:18] <Hexidigital> thoreaputic, adventchild... thanks anyway... i'll "wiki" it
[10:18] <thoreauputic> adventchild: to see executables, run  dpkg -L <packagename> | grep bin
[10:18] <Hexidigital> adventchild, no to both questions
[10:18] <thoreauputic> adventchild: not the capital "L"
[10:18] <adventchild> !wiki
[10:18] <aeolist> !aptitude
[10:18] <rubso> _jason: thank you very much ;)
[10:19] <_jason> rubso: after you do that, you need to run 'sudo apt-get update'
[10:19] <thoreauputic> erm s/not/note
[10:19] <rubso> _jason: never mind i know the rest!
[10:19] <_jason> rubso: k
[10:19] <_jason> rubso: what's kw country code for?
[10:20] <adventchild> !hug
[10:20] <PwcrLinux> Kiwi i think
[10:20] <RabidDog_> thoreauputic, :p in my being tired after working through 3 comp resetup  after major upgrade
[10:20] <Hexidigital> lol
[10:20] <adventchild> a little ubotu and thoreauputic thanks
[10:20] <_jason> get a room
[10:20] <RabidDog_> brb
[10:20] <thoreauputic> !good bot
[10:20] <ubotu> :)
[10:20] <aeolist> i just read what ubotu has to say about aptitude. how do i automatically remove dependencies? with the purge thingy? (text-mode aptitude)
[10:20] <thoreauputic> !botsnack
[10:20] <ubotu> thanks thoreauputic :)
[10:20] <adventchild> lol
[10:20] <Hexidigital> in my mind, Ubotu looks like Trinity from the Matrix
[10:21] <adventchild> !botbath
[10:21] <ubotu> adventchild: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:21] <adventchild> ?
[10:21] <adventchild> o well
[10:21] <aeolist> Hexidigital: you really need a gf then
[10:21] <rubso> _jason: thank you very very much !, are you love ?! :p
[10:21] <Hexidigital> aeolist, tell me about it :)
[10:21] <thoreauputic> adventchild: bots are very unhygienic
[10:21] <adventchild> ive noticed
[10:21] <_jason> aeolist: aptitude purge packagename
[10:22] <aeolist> okie thanks...
[10:22] <thoreauputic> adventchild: it's their geek nature...
[10:22] <adventchild> ubotu, are you a geek?
[10:22] <ubotu> adventchild: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:22] <adventchild> ouch
[10:22] <_jason> rubso: np
[10:22] <adventchild> feel the burn
[10:22] <thoreauputic> !botabuse
[10:22] <ubotu> You can play with me in /msg or #debian-bots without being banned.
[10:22] <thoreauputic> ;)
[10:22] <adventchild> !botsnack
[10:22] <ubotu> thanks adventchild :)
[10:22] <adventchild> hehehe
[10:23] <adventchild> thats funny
[10:23] <adventchild> !scoobysnack
[10:23] <ubotu> adventchild: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:23] <adventchild> :-(
[10:23] <thoreauputic> adventchild: you really are asking for it..
[10:23] <PwcrLinux> Can I idling in here while I am away?
[10:23] <B0FH> !glxgears
[10:23] <ubotu> To display the FPS type "glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark"
[10:24] <cam> is anyone here running ubuntu on a mac mini?
[10:24] <lokoit> what is the possible cause the dhcpd wont give any OFFER but only DISCOVER?
[10:25] <thoreauputic> !anyone
[10:25] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[10:25] <gilianima> what is the command to compile a C++ code ?
[10:25] <thoreauputic> adventchild: I noticed
[10:25] <adventchild> poor bot.. picked on all the time
[10:25] <_jason> gilianima: g++ file.cc
[10:25] <Gau> it's g++? huh.
[10:26] <adventchild> !good bot
[10:26] <ubotu> thanks adventchild :)
[10:26] <_jason> gilianima: you'll need to install the package 'build-essential' if you haven't already
[10:26] <Gau> I would have guessed gcc
[10:26] <DJAdmiral> thoreauputic: remember coffeetable?
[10:26] <thoreauputic> adventchild: please stop playing withthe bot
[10:26] <adventchild> ok
[10:26] <PwcrLinux> thoreauputic: Can I idling in here while I am away?
[10:26] <thoreauputic> DJAdmiral: oh yes
[10:26] <DJAdmiral> thoreauputic: it worked ;)
[10:26] <thoreauputic> PwcrLinux: as far as I'm aware it's OK
[10:26] <Hexidigital> !emacs
[10:26] <DJAdmiral> thoreauputic: it worked
[10:26] <ubotu> hmm... emacs is a text editor made by GNU. Some praise it as the world's best
[10:26] <thoreauputic> DJAdmiral: aha! lucky you!
[10:26] <PwcrLinux> thoreauputic: Okay thanks
[10:27] <Hexidigital> why isn't emacs available on aptitude
[10:27] <Hexidigital> ?
[10:27] <adventchild> DJAdmiral, congrats
[10:27] <DJAdmiral> thoreauputic and adventchild: no freezing needed!
[10:27] <DJAdmiral> lol
[10:27] <thoreauputic> PwcrLinux: lots of people stay logged in from ssh shells
[10:27] <DJAdmiral> i just made a tempdir on the livecd
[10:27] <_jason> Hexidigital: vi instead, free upgrade.  Actually, it's like emacs21 or soemthing, just search for emacs
[10:27] <adventchild> DJAdmiral, if it crashes again try freezing it
[10:27] <thoreauputic> DJAdmiral: you still need a new hard drive ASAP I think :)
[10:27] <DJAdmiral> mounted my rootsystem on that
[10:27] <PwcrLinux> thoreauputic: Yea, I noticed..
[10:27] <DJAdmiral> and then sudo touch fastboot
[10:28] <DJAdmiral> and it skipped!
[10:28] <Hexidigital> _jason, vi is the name of the app?
[10:28] <DJAdmiral> whoopee!
[10:28] <DJAdmiral> and yes, i need a new hard disk asap ;)
[10:28] <_jason> Hexidigital: heh no, I was just kidding.  Ignore my first sentence
[10:28] <Hexidigital> _jason, :)  thanks
[10:29] <_jason> Hexidigital: so that you may understand: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Editor_war
[10:29] <thoreauputic> Hexidigital: try emacs21
[10:29] <Krikey> I have two video cards in my PC only one of which is being recognised by Ubuntu. How can I get Ubuntu to expand my desktop to the other monitor/card
[10:29] <thoreauputic> !info emacs21
[10:29] <ubotu> emacs21: (The GNU Emacs editor), section editors, is optional. Version: 21.4a-1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1946 kB, Installed size: 5908 kB
[10:29] <Hexidigital> _jason, thoreaputic, it is emacs21
[10:29] <Hexidigital> thanks guys
[10:30] <DJAdmiral> thoreauputic: anyone here know of lfs?
[10:30] <thoreauputic> DJAdmiral: of course they do
[10:30] <adventchild> !lfs
[10:30] <ubotu> from memory, lfs is Linux From Scratch: "Linux From Scratch (LFS) is a project that provides you with step-by-step instructions for building your own custom Linux system, entirely from source code." http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/
[10:30] <thoreauputic> DJAdmiral: are you running a survey?
[10:31] <DJAdmiral> lol, no
[10:31] <DJAdmiral> just asking
[10:31] <DJAdmiral> outta curiosity
[10:31] <thoreauputic> !anyone
[10:31] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[10:31] <gilianima> could someone show me a basic code in C++ that can be compile with "gcc myfirstcode.cc" ?
[10:31] <DJAdmiral> i didn't have any question about lfs
[10:31] <DJAdmiral> i was just curios
[10:31] <gilianima> I can't find any
[10:32] <_jason> gilianima: I've always had to use g++
[10:32] <patrick52222> does this work anyone in dapper   sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
[10:32] <adventchild> ;-P
[10:32] <thoreauputic> adventchild: google is your friend ;)
[10:32] <coz> patrick52222, should
[10:32] <Krikey> google hasnt been my friend so far :(
[10:32] <adventchild> thoreauputic: yes it is
[10:32] <patrick52222> i keep getting this E: Package gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly has no installation candidate
[10:33] <Hexidigital> adventchild, you still here?
[10:33] <DJAdmiral> goooogle... i wuv google
[10:33] <Hexidigital> oh, i see you are
[10:33] <adventchild> Hexidigital, ues
[10:33] <DJAdmiral> page creator is good, but still kinda annoying at times
[10:33] <adventchild> Hexidigital, *yes
[10:33] <aeolist> patrick52222: update the damn thing
[10:33] <_jason> gilianima: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11518
[10:33] <thoreauputic> !seen ompaul
[10:33] <ubotu> ompaul <n=ompaul@ubuntu/member/ompaul> was last seen on IRC in channel #ubuntu, 14h 10m 41s ago, saying: '!offtopic'.
[10:33] <aeolist> patrick52222: and check that sources.list thingy
[10:33] <thoreauputic> hah
[10:33] <DJAdmiral> !google
[10:33] <ubotu> from memory, google is a very popular internet search engine at http://www.google.com - They also run Gmail at http://www.gmail.com as a free E-mail service.
[10:33] <adventchild> thoreauputic, i have noticed that you are feeling BOFHish
[10:33] <shadeofgrey> thor!
[10:33] <aeolist> !repositories
[10:33] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[10:33] <aeolist> !sources.list
[10:33] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[10:33] <Hexidigital> adventchild, in gnome, if you right click the panel, and click Add to Panel, on the very bottom, under Utilities, is where to add Webboard to the panel
[10:34] <shadeofgrey> how the hell are you player?  i aint seen you in ages bro!
[10:34] <Hexidigital> the install worked
[10:34] <DJAdmiral> can ubotu do google searching?
[10:34] <thoreauputic> adventchild: so watch your step, luser! *grin*
[10:34] <DJAdmiral> !google ubuntu
[10:34] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, DJAdmiral
[10:34] <adventchild> Hexidigital, good to know...  ty
[10:34] <Hexidigital> :)
[10:34] <DJAdmiral> guess it can't :(
[10:34] <adventchild> thoreauputic, i have been...  every single one
[10:34] <thoreauputic> DJAdmiral: I think not
[10:34] <DJAdmiral> probably for good reason too
[10:35] <shadeofgrey> okay so whats the best mp3 player for ubuntu?
[10:35] <adventchild> thoreauputic, if someone uses leet speak will they get banned?
[10:35] <adventchild> !mp3
[10:35] <ubotu> methinks mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:35] <gilianima> _jason: thanks!
[10:35] <thoreauputic> adventchild: only if seveas is here, or I'm feeling nasty ;)
[10:35] <_jason> shadeofgrey: just try them and see what you like... rhythmbox, beep-media-player, amarok to name a few
[10:36] <thoreauputic> adventchild: leet speak gets old really fast
[10:36] <adventchild> lol
[10:36] <Seveas> thoreauputic, I just woke up and am terribly annoyed with a few things so people should watch out >:)
[10:36] <coz> yesterday, in Dapper, I could not access any drive it wanted suid root, what could have caused a systemic permicssions change
[10:36] <DJAdmiral> not l33t, it's 1337 :P
[10:36] <DJAdmiral> lol
[10:36] <coz> permissions
[10:36] <adventchild> 2 BOFH? oh dear...
[10:36] <thoreauputic> adventchild: there you go - Seveas has spoken :)
[10:37] <gilianima> _jason: What should be the name of the file ? (the extension actually...?)
[10:37] <Hexidigital> are Emacs and Pico editor used for similar purposes?
[10:37] <_jason> gilianima: I like .cc for c++ files
[10:38] <thoreauputic> adventchild: very wise
[10:38] <thoreauputic> Hexidigital: sort of
[10:38] <Hexidigital> thoreaputic, tyvm
[10:38] <thoreauputic> Hexidigital: emacs is an order of magnitude more powerful
[10:38] <Hexidigital> thoreaputic, good, that's what i'm looking for then :)  thanks
[10:38] <thoreauputic> hence an order of magnitude harder to use ;)
[10:39] <DJAdmiral> doing symlinks on host systems running from live cds won't be there the next time you boot from the cd, right?
[10:40] <thoreauputic> DJAdmiral: unless you are a magician, no
[10:40] <DJAdmiral> crap. silly me.
[10:41] <shadeofgrey> hey jason
[10:41] <thoreauputic> if adventchild is staying quiet, thank $DEITY he isn't being loud
[10:41] <shadeofgrey> what mysql packages do i need to install to suite amorak?
[10:42] <thoreauputic> heheh
[10:42] <luismi> como instalar amule
[10:42] <_jason> shadeofgrey: I just used whatever the easiest was that required minimal interaction
[10:42] <adventchild> !es
[10:42] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:42] <Actomik> hi everyone
[10:42] <coz> Actomik, welcome
[10:43] <coz> in Dapper, yesterday, could not access any drive without suid root, what would cause systemic permissions change?
[10:43] <shadeofgrey> holy crap
[10:44] <shadeofgrey> it says its going to need 3 hours to process my 135gig worth of mp3s
[10:44] <_jason> heh
[10:44] <_jason> shadeofgrey: take a nap
[10:44] <Hexidigital> !pastebin
[10:44] <ubotu> it has been said that pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[10:44] <luismi> how install amule. I download amule-2.1.1.tar.bz2   what i do now.
[10:44] <_jason> !amule
[10:44] <ubotu> sudo apt-get install amule
[10:44] <_jason> luismi: do that ^
[10:45] <Seveas> !forget amule
[10:45] <ubotu> i forgot amule, Seveas
[10:45] <_jason> heh that helped me
[10:46] <luismi> ^
[10:46] <Hexidigital> what's amule used for
[10:46] <Hexidigital> ?
[10:46] <adventchild> google=your best friend
[10:46] <thoreauputic> Seveas: hrm - ideological decision or has amule been removed? Seems o exist in breezy...
[10:46] <_jason> luismi: understand what you have to do?
[10:46] <Seveas> thoreauputic, useless factoid
[10:47] <Seveas> thoreauputic, otherwise we could add 17000 similar factoids...
[10:47] <thoreauputic> Seveas: I suppose so - since if we had a factoid for everything in Ubuntu's apt we would be silly indeed
[10:47] <thoreauputic> Seveas: yup :)
[10:47] <Seveas> thoreauputic, similarly, many factoids about applications are redundant since we have !info <app>
[10:48] <_jason> you can't do a tell foo about info <app> though
[10:48] <thoreauputic> Seveas: true - sometimes easier though ( more readable for new users)
[10:48] <gilianima> is there a bash command to get the result of 2*5 ?
[10:49] <thoreauputic> gilianima: you need a bash command for that ;-) ?
[10:49] <_jason> gilianima: heh you went from c++ to bash math?  echo $((2*5))
[10:49] <adventchild> thoreauputic, do you know much about the psp filesystem?
[10:49] <thoreauputic> gilianima: it will even add 2 + 2 for you :)
[10:50] <thoreauputic> adventchild: not a thing
[10:50] <zezu> !wifi
[10:50] <ubotu> I guess wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[10:50] <gilianima> thanks ;)
[10:50] <Seveas> gilianima, expr 2*5
[10:50] <adventchild> is there a c sharp channel?
[10:51] <thoreauputic> adventchild: try /j #c#
[10:51] <thoreauputic> adventchild: 104 people at last count
[10:51] <adventchild> 105 now... lol
[10:51] <gilianima> Seveas: expr 2*5 just echoes 2*5
[10:51] <_jason> Seveas: expr 2*5 returns ``2*5'' for me?
[10:52] <thoreauputic> try expr 2 '*' 5
[10:52] <_jason> ah
[10:52] <sfar> is it possible to make the gnome menu appear when i click the "windows"-button on the keyboard?
[10:53] <_jason> sfar: checkout system > prefernces > keyboard shortcuts
[10:53] <sfar> allright
[10:53] <Hexidigital> expr 2'*'5 still returning 2'*'5 for me
[10:53] <sfar> wee.. it worked :) thanks _jason
[10:53] <thoreauputic> Hexidigital: spaces
[10:53] <Hexidigital> yep.. just noticed
[10:53] <Hexidigital> :)
[10:54] <stefano> hi
[10:55] <Angor> hello
[10:55] <stefano> lemmie guess, using Ubuntu?
[10:55] <Angor> currently redhat
[10:55] <Angor> :)
[10:55] <stefano> ah
[10:55] <stefano> my dad uses Fedora Core
[10:55] <stefano> he loves it
[10:55] <Angor> but i've installed ubuntu 5.10 in my home pc
[10:55] <stefano> I tried Ubuntu, but I don't like it that much
[10:55] <stefano> I preffer Mac OS X
[10:55] <Angor> haven't tried fedora core yet.
[10:56] <stefano> it's almost Linux
[10:56] <stefano> because it's based on Darwin Unix
[10:56] <Angor> i'm having trouble with my installation
[10:56] <stefano> Fedora?
[10:56] <Angor> :9
[10:56] <Angor> no with ubuntu 5.10
[10:56] <stefano> oh
[10:56] <_jason> !enter
[10:56] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[10:56] <Angor> dual booted with my windows xp
[10:56] <stefano> I just downloaded the live cd version
[10:56] <stefano> but it's SLOOOOOOOW
[10:57] <Angor> got a distro from a friend of mine.
[10:57] <thoreauputic> stefano: mac OS-X and fedora --> &ubuntu-offtopic
[10:57] <stefano> oh
[10:57] <stefano> sorry
[10:57] <Angor> mines not that slow.
[10:57] <Angor> however its a difficult affair to say the least...
[10:57] <stefano> when it runs off a CD it is...
[10:57] <Angor> well yes..it warns you that it would be slow on the live cd..
[10:57] <Angor> hehe.
[10:57] <danzat> hey, can anyone help me with what i think is a kernel related question?
[10:58] <thoreauputic> anything running off a CD will be slower
[10:58] <Hexidigital> !anyone
[10:58] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[10:58] <stefano> yeah
[10:58] <Angor> hehe ubotu
[10:58] <danzat> well, my question is a bit elaborate
[10:58] <thoreauputic> danzat: just ask
[10:58] <danzat> i wanted to prepare you :)
[10:58] <tooleh> How would I go about making the /media folder accessible to my user (without having to sudo every time I look at it) ?
[10:58] <Angor> okey, i have a question of my own..
[10:58] <thoreauputic> danzat: if we don't know we'll point you somewhere  :)
[10:59] <danzat> i have a 100MBps network card, but it likes working in 10Mbps mode
[10:59] <thoreauputic> tooleh: erm - t should be by defaut
[10:59] <danzat> linux however makes it work in 100Mbps, and so it won't work
[10:59] <thoreauputic> *default
[10:59] <squid0> hiu
[10:59] <thoreauputic> danzat: miitool
[10:59] <jesuslinux> hola
[10:59] <danzat> so i have to set the mode with mii-tool everytime i restart
[10:59] <tooleh> thoreauputic: Huh :S
[10:59] <squid0> anyone have any luck with connecting a samsung d600 via usb?
[10:59] <jesuslinux> spanish??
[11:00] <thoreauputic> sorry mii-tool
[11:00] <danzat> i know, i was looking for a way to make this change permanent
[11:00] <Den> Hi - is the Seamonkey suite (Mozilla) in Dapper?  I don't see it in Adept Package mgr.
[11:00] <Angor> thoreau: ive managed to install ubuntu however on the desktop, whenever i click the System > Administration > disks ...ubuntu wouldnt run it. it would start running then just stop.
[11:00] <thoreauputic> danzat: you can put the command at the end of /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh, or use cron with @reboot
[11:01] <danzat> does bootmisc.sh run at the beginning of the boot?
[11:01] <thoreauputic> danzat: at the end IIRC
[11:01] <danzat> right now i've put it in the networks scipt, and it's in the middle
[11:01] <tooleh> thoreauputic: So how to I open root-only things in GUI apps?
[11:01] <thoreauputic> danzat:  cron with @reboot might be better
[11:02] <Angor> thoreau: ive managed to install ubuntu however on the desktop, whenever i click the System > Administration > disks ...ubuntu wouldnt run it. it would start running then just stop.
[11:02] <danzat> thoreauputic: what is cron?
[11:02] <thoreauputic> tooleh: you should be able to read them - mostly
[11:02] <adventchild> !tell Angor about patience
[11:02] <thoreauputic> danzat:  have a look at man crontab
[11:02] <Angor> sorry
[11:02] <danzat> thx
[11:02] <thoreauputic> danzat: it's a way to schedule commands
[11:03] <thoreauputic> danzat: to search in the man page, try  /@reboot
[11:03] <_jason> danzat: try 'man 5 crontab' too
[11:03] <jurjenst> angor: do you have windows open... there can be a login prompt hidden under other windows
[11:04] <danzat> isn't it something i need to set with the kernel?
[11:04] <Angor> jurjenst: no i;ve dual booted with windows xp
[11:04] <_jason> Angor: does 'sudo echo hi' in a terminal work?
[11:05] <adventchild> Angor, jurjenst means under linux...  not M$ window$ (i think)
[11:05] <thoreauputic> danzat: actually @reboot is in man 5 crontab , as _jason just pointed out
[11:05] <Angor> jason: i'll try that. but my terminal works just fine
[11:05] <thoreauputic> _jason: thanks
[11:05] <Angor> hmmm
[11:05] <Angor> ah okey. hehhe
[11:05] <_jason> Angor: ?
[11:06] <Angor> i mean, that the terminal is working fine. but i dont know if echo hi will work
[11:06] <_jason> Angor: ok, let me know if it does
[11:07] <adventchild> _jason, works for me...
[11:07] <Angor> but i think it might...in any case
[11:07] <_jason> Angor: are you in ubuntu now?
[11:07] <Angor> sorry. nope. im using red hat now. my ubuntu is installed in my home pc
[11:07] <_jason> oh
[11:08] <thoreauputic> Angor: bash is bash - sme on Red HAt
[11:08] <_jason> hard to trouble shoot the disk manager thing then
[11:08] <thoreauputic> *same
[11:08] <thoreauputic> ah
[11:08] <danzat> thoreauputic: The question now is whether the network interface is already initialized when i
[11:08] <adventchild> thoreauputic, is pine on ubuntu?
[11:08] <thoreauputic> adventchild: no
[11:08] <danzat> thoreauputic: 'm calling mii-tool in crontab
[11:08] <Angor> thoreau: what do u mean?
[11:08] <thoreauputic> adventchild: it's "non free"
[11:09] <adventchild> o
[11:09] <thoreauputic> Angor: misunderstanding - I thought you were using shell commands
[11:09] <Hexidigital> !netscape
[11:09] <ubotu> Hexidigital: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:09] <Angor> thoreau: ahh.. okey. hehe.
[11:09] <Hexidigital> !bon echo
[11:09] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Hexidigital
[11:09] <thoreauputic> adventchild: try "mutt"
[11:10] <adventchild> ;-P
[11:10] <Angor> thoreau: no, i was on gui when it happens. when i click the buttons on administration it doesnt respond.
[11:10] <thoreauputic> adventchild: could have fooled me :)
[11:10] <adventchild> ...
[11:10] <thoreauputic> jusat what we need - another sociopath
[11:11] <bliss1_> please help
[11:11] <adventchild> thoreauputic, cmd 'mutt' not found
[11:11] <Angor> mutt
[11:11] <Angor> hehe
[11:11] <adventchild> whats up bliss1_ ?
[11:11] <thoreauputic> adventchild: *sigh* then install it
[11:11] <Hexidigital> adventchild, sudo apt-get install mutt
[11:11] <adventchild> lol
[11:11] <adventchild> i know...  just giving our lovable BOFH a hard time
[11:11] <Hexidigital> :)
[11:12] <adventchild> bliss1_, whats the problem?
[11:12] <bliss1_> adventchild: I have just had a momo to stop useing my pc at work for non work projects??
[11:12] <Angor> i have another question: will i be able to install other applications or a compiler  without using apt-get? i have no home internet connection u see..
[11:12] <bliss1_> memo
[11:13] <adventchild> ok...
[11:13] <cge> For Dapper, when Xorg is being autoconfigured, is the default driver for nvidia cards nv or nvidia?
[11:13] <thoreauputic> cge: nv is the open driver
[11:14] <thoreauputic> cge: so I think nv is default
[11:14] <cge> thoreauputic, I know, this is for triaging a bug
[11:14] <bliss1_> adventchild: mens that I have got to guy my boss silvya some flowers
[11:14] <thoreauputic> !nvidia
[11:14] <ubotu> nvidia is, like, totally, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[11:14] <bliss1_> buy
[11:14] <adventchild> bliss1_, sounds like a packetsniffer... and pink roses would do nicely
[11:14] <thoreauputic> adventchild: no point - you don't have a shell either ;)
[11:14] <Angor> try using vesa for a while cge. it will work.
[11:14] <cge> Angor, I don't have an nvidia card, this is for triaging a bug.
[11:15] <Angor> hmmm
[11:15] <adventchild> bliss1_, maybe some angles breath in there as well
[11:15] <Angor> xserver bug?
[11:15] <cge> bug 38131
[11:16] <Angor> im not an expert. sorry
[11:16] <Angor> hehe
[11:16] <bliss1_> aventchild your joking its a full spray and a meal at the local italian to get things back to normal it happened last year its a funny sort of hint
[11:17] <cge> If the default is nv, which it most likely is, then the bug can most likely be closed.
[11:17] <bliss1_> adventchild: her huband is the network director
[11:17] <bliss1_> husband
[11:17] <adventchild> ouch...  a nice vaca at the excalibur in vegas might be the ticket
[11:18] <Angor> i think nv is the default
[11:18] <tooleh> thoreauputic: But say I want to edit /etc/fstab in gedit
[11:19] <thoreauputic> tooleh: gksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[11:19] <bliss1_> thoreauptic: how do I free RAM got 768mb here s the problem You do not have enough space in '/dev/shm' for the 512 MB of QEMU virtual RAM.
[11:19] <bliss1_> To have more space available provided you have enough RAM and swap, do as root:
[11:19] <bliss1_> umount /dev/shm
[11:19] <bliss1_> mount -t tmpfs -o size=528m none /dev/shm
[11:19] <tooleh> thoreauputic: and I get access denied when browsing to /media/hdb5 (in nautilus)
[11:19] <adventchild> bliss1_, use rewebber for any internet activity
[11:19] <thoreauputic> tooleh: well, your fstab is probably wrong, yes
[11:20] <tooleh> (gedit:15155): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[11:20] <tooleh> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[11:20] <bliss1_> adventchild: yes but tor is much 10 times better
[11:20] <adventchild> eh...
[11:20] <thoreauputic> tooleh: did you use the full command?
[11:20] <thoreauputic> tooleh:  gksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[11:20] <bliss1_> advetchild; you know tor
[11:21] <tooleh> indeed I did
[11:21] <tooleh> thoreauputic: gedit opens but is blank
[11:21] <thoreauputic> tooleh: you aren't running gnome as root, are you?
[11:21] <tooleh> thoreauputic: I have no idea. I don't think so :S
[11:21] <thoreauputic> tooleh: then you made a mistake
[11:21] <adventchild> su
[11:21] <_jason> tooleh: gksudo 'gedit /etc/fstab'
[11:21] <thoreauputic> /etc/fstab has to be there
[11:21] <_jason> thoreauputic: sometimes using gksudo without the quotes around the command messes up for me
[11:22] <tooleh> thoreauputic: it works with quotes :)
[11:22] <thoreauputic> _jason: oh really? Interesting...
[11:22] <tooleh> thanks : :)
[11:22] <thoreauputic> tooleh: OK - haven't seen that
[11:22] <bliss1_> adventchild: apt-get install tor
[11:22] <cge> tooleh, do you have characters that might mess up a shell?
[11:23] <adventchild> bliss1_, i have no need for it...
[11:23] <adventchild> lol
[11:23] <thoreauputic> of course you tend not to see errors like that if you run " vim /etc/fstab "
[11:23] <thoreauputic> :)
[11:23] <cge> oops, I meant _jason
[11:23] <Hexidigital> anyone know if Ubuntu supports similar hardware sensor monitoring that Intel does for Windows?  i.e. Intel Active Monitor?
[11:23] <bliss1_> thoreauputic: have 768 mb ram why do i get this You do not have enough space in '/dev/shm' for the 512 MB of QEMU virtual RAM.
[11:23] <bliss1_> To have more space available provided you have enough RAM and swap, do as root:
[11:23] <bliss1_> umount /dev/shm
[11:23] <bliss1_> mount -t tmpfs -o size=528m none /dev/shm
[11:24] <thoreauputic> hmm sudo vim /etc/fstab of course..
[11:24] <adventchild> is that the same as the device tab in ubuntu's system manager?
[11:24] <thoreauputic> bliss1_: because you don't have 512MB to spare?
[11:24] <cge> bliss1_, because shm isn't large enough.
[11:24] <_jason> cge: gksudo gedit /etc/fstab opens up $PWD'/etc/fstab'  quotes in the filename
[11:25] <adventchild> bliss1_, i have 192mb ram... could i do anything with that?
[11:25] <_jason> for me at least
[11:25] <bliss1_> thoreauputic: but I have 768 mb how to free ram please
[11:25] <cge> _jason, and sudo works?
[11:26] <_jason> sudo would work fine, I am going to try other gui editors
[11:26] <bliss1_> cge: thanksshm bigger how do i make
[11:26] <ruschi> Hi guys - I just discoverd that the latest linux -mm patch contains imortatnt hardware support for me - is it possible somehow to patch the ubuntu/debian  kernel with this vanilla -mm patch so it works?
[11:26] <ruschi> I tried but I get millions of errors
[11:26] <_jason> cge: seems to be gksudo related, gksudo gvim /etc/fstab had the same behavior
[11:26] <bliss1_> cge: how do I make shm bigger sorry
[11:26] <shadeofgrey> everyboidy listen up
[11:26] <Lk2> hi people!
[11:26] <cge> bliss1_, with the commands you just listed.
[11:27] <shadeofgrey> i need someone who knowss how to use fsck properly
[11:27] <Lk2> can anybody help me? I can't get mp3 support working in dapper for amd64 ....
[11:27] <adventchild> bliss1_ cge, i have 192mb ram... could i do anything with that to free up ram?
[11:27] <cge> shadeofgrey, why? what file system?
[11:27] <adventchild> !tell Lk2 about mp3
[11:28] <shadeofgrey> cge:  i need to run fsck on my storage partition /dev/hdb1 -- its ext3 and i want fsck to ignore the root file system, do all the fixing automatically and be verbose through the whole process
[11:28] <shadeofgrey> ive already unmounted the drive
[11:28] <bliss1_> cge: just tell the commands please  sudo unmount /dev/shm then what
[11:28] <bliss1_> adventchild: i could sent you some
[11:29] <Hybernate> hello
[11:29] <cge> bliss1_, then sudo mount -t tmpfs -o size=528m none /dev/shm. But be sure to use umount, not unmount.
[11:29] <tooleh> thoreauputic: http://pastebin.com/641667 //that look ok?
[11:29] <zezu> what is the cmd line app that sets up xorg.conf ?
[11:29] <zezu> for xf it used to be xf86cfg didn't it ?
[11:30] <tooleh> zezu dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[11:30] <zezu> hmm i'll try that
[11:30] <tooleh> anyway, I'm off out
[11:30] <Frogzoo> zezu: sudo  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:30] <danzat> theore: Hi again. It seems as though cron and boosmisc.sh run too late in the boot
[11:30] <tooleh> laters
[11:31] <tooleh> if anyone wants to look at http://pastebin.com/641667 and then /msg me I'd be well happy :)
[11:31] <cge> shadeofgrey, how about fsck.ext3 -v -p ? Note that this is dangerous, however.
[11:31] <Frogzoo> I'm curious how much luck other people have had getting wine working on Ubuntu 5.10 ie Breezy, if I'm on Breezy & need wine working, having already tried a score of permutations, what's the best approach from here?
[11:31] <danzat> thore: i think i should set it right afther the network interfaces were initialized (i.e. eth0), but i don't know where in the boot it happenes
[11:32] <thoreauputic> tooleh: sorry - multitasking here
[11:32] <thoreauputic> danzat: I don't either, sorry :(
[11:33] <adventchild> bliss1_, when i did the /dev/shm cmd, it lessened my free ram
[11:33] <danzat> theore: ok...nm, i'll just keep trying to move it up in the boot until it works :)
[11:33] <bliss1_> mine to
[11:33] <Frogzoo> adventchild: no such thing as a free lunch
[11:33] <danzat> or...until it stops working
[11:33] <adventchild> right, but i did it again and it dropped again
[11:34] <cge> shadeofgrey, actually, mkfs.ext3 -v -p /dev/DEVICE. Add -c if you are having bad block problems too.
[11:34] <cge> Frogzoo, you mean as opposed to Dapper?
[11:34] <thoreauputic> !tell tooleh about mountwindows
[11:35] <asror> hello all
[11:35] <asror> my resolution to slow how to increase resolution ?
[11:35] <Frogzoo> cge: I can't go to Dapper, as this is my work machine, but I would really like to get ie6 working (don't ask)
[11:36] <adventchild> asror, system>prefs>screen res
[11:36] <asror> !video adapter
[11:36] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, asror
[11:36] <cge> Frogzoo, I understand. With Dapper I have used the winehq repository, have you tried those?
[11:36] <cge> Frogzoo, they aren't dapper specific.
[11:36] <asror> adventchild: i tryed but no result
[11:37] <Frogzoo> cge: the wierd thing is I had ie6 working under both the ubuntu stock wine & 9.11, but since installing/uninstalling prelink - no joy, not sure if prelink's the culprit, but there's something stuck which the package manager isn't cleaning out
[11:37] <adventchild> asror, do you have the proper driver installed for your vid card/monitor?
[11:38] <asror> adventchild: how can I install vi card driver properily
[11:38] <cge> Frogzoo, hmmm... I'm not sure if removing prelink removes the prelinking.
[11:38] <adventchild> asror, not really sure, new to linux
[11:38] <stricjux> hello
[11:38] <Frogzoo> cge: so I'm guessing there's a bug somewhere & I'd really prefer to track it down, but if I can't get this fixed I'm going to have to reinstall
[11:38] <adventchild> asror, but can your monitor handle a higher res?
[11:38] <Frogzoo> cge: you rerun the cronjob & it's supposed to remove it, or that's my understanding
[11:39] <asror> adventchild: it's only 60 Ghr and all
[11:39] <bliss1_> thoreauputic: ok ram sorted  tun ok but now qemu: could not open hard disk image 'hardisk.img'
[11:39] <stricjux> I'm offering a sixpack of your favourite beer, including internationall shipping if you tell me how to get the global "Alt-something" shortcuts back to work. I rebooted my computer and now everything is foobared.
[11:39] <adventchild> !tell asror about drivers
[11:39] <asror> adventchild: it's only 60 Ghr and nothing
[11:39] <Frogzoo> bliss1_: qemu has a tool for creating the image initially
[11:39] <stricjux> Im runing gnome/ubuntu 5.10
[11:40] <cge> Frogzoo, there's a cron job for prelink!? And I was manually doing prelink -a all this time.
[11:40] <adventchild> stricjux, system>prefs>keyboard shortcuts
[11:40] <cge> stricjux, You mean to get to the vc's? What happens when you try them?
[11:41] <stricjux> adventchild: none of them work, and i didnt meddle with system->prefs...
[11:41] <bliss1_> Frogzoo ok i ran qemu-img create -f qcow harddisk.img 30G
[11:41] <stricjux> cge, not quite sure what you are asking, but alt-tab, alt-ctrl left right, alt-f4 dont work
[11:41] <adventchild> stricjux, idk...  sorry
[11:41] <cge> stricjux, oh, sorry.
[11:41] <bliss1_> frogzoo: two d's
[11:41] <Frogzoo> cge: there's not only a cronjob in cron.daily, but if you add "DPkg::Post-Invoke {"echo Running prelink, please wait...;/etc/cron.daily/prelink";}"  to /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/30prelink , then apt will rerun prelink anytime you add new pkgs
[11:41] <squid0> has anyone had any experience in connecting to a Samsung D600 phone via usb?
[11:42] <cge> stricjux, I thought you meant Alt-FX/Ctl-Alt-FX.
[11:42] <asror> adventchild: once it's work correctly(video card) but after reboot it not working why ?
[11:43] <adventchild> asror, what res are you running now?
[11:43] <cge> stricjux, do any Alt- shortcuts work? Can you get to the file menu in a program with Alt-F?
[11:43] <adventchild> 1024x768 @ 60mhz?
[11:43] <stricjux> cge, yea.. they work
[11:43] <bliss1_> Frogzoo should I rename to hardisk and not harddisk.img
[11:44] <cge> Frogzoo, amazing progress!
[11:44] <Frogzoo> bliss1_: did you create the file initially with dd if=/dev/zero  ?
[11:44] <Frogzoo> cge: well it's nice, until you try to install kde, & then it's the suxors :)
[11:44] <Matyy> hi, i read about this espresso tool
[11:44] <bliss1_> Frogzoo no with qemu-img create -f qcow harddisk.img 30G
[11:44] <zugu> hi all
[11:44] <stricjux> cge, looks like i foobared metacity somehow.. i guess i tried installing some extensions (expose like) last week but rebooted only now
[11:45] <zugu> I have this question: on Ubuntu 5.10, in GNOME, in Nautilus: how do I set up Nautilus to always open maximised folder windows?
[11:45] <cge> stricjux, oh.
[11:45] <Frogzoo> bliss1_: I suggest you check the qemu docs - there's a guid for creating new images
[11:45] <GnarusLeo> I really hope amarok can be more suitable to iPod eventually ... like adding covers etc etc ... :) Its quite not iTunes yet :P
[11:45] <Matyy> does espresso install a complete "normal" Ubuntu on the pc? "normal" = the same as if I used the install CD?
[11:45] <stricjux> cge, i did a checkinstall and then removed the extensions.. with synaptic.
[11:45] <adventchild> zugu, system>prefs>windows?
[11:46] <zugu> adventchild: thank you
[11:46] <cge> stricjux, let me look around for something for a minute.
[11:46] <Krikey> I have qemu installed. How can I get qemu to use my existing installation of XP on my second partition?
[11:46] <adventchild> zugu, idk if that will work
[11:46] <Frogzoo> cge: so are you running wine successfully AND are prelinking?
[11:46] <stricjux> cge, I tryed reinstalling metacity and everything
[11:46] <bliss1_> Frogzoo: sorry its a matter of delting it and recreate with the correct spelling ie hardiskimg
[11:46] <cge> Frogzoo, yes.
[11:46] <zugu> ok... any other opinions?
[11:46] <zezu> the i810 graphics driver has no sort or direct rendering ?
[11:46] <adventchild> zugu, im new to linux
[11:47] <zugu> adventchild: me too :)
[11:47] <zugu> adventchild: are you running ubuntu now?
[11:47] <adventchild> zugu, yup
[11:47] <cge> stricjux, Hmm... it could be your configuration. Look at /apps/metacity/global_keybindings in gconf-editor.
[11:48] <bliss1_> Frogzoo: or better still just put harddisk on command line whats in a na,e
[11:48] <Frogzoo> cge: if it's not a rude question, which doze apps? ie6 for instance? WoW? etc - also which verion wine & did you use winetools or sidenet for setup?
[11:48] <bliss1_> name
[11:48] <zugu> adventchild: then, could you please look and see if your advice works? cause i'm currently at work and I'm forced to run winxp
[11:48] <cge> Frogzoo, nothing, really, besides trivial apps.
[11:48] <adventchild> ew
[11:48] <lancia> olive do you have an uncle who plays guitar?
[11:48] <adventchild> sorry
[11:48] <Chameleon22> can anyone recomend a good network modeling/diagram tool? Not including Dia.
[11:48] <Angor> hello.
[11:48] <cge> Frogzoo, but no, I just used the winehq repository, and the automatic setup.
[11:48] <adventchild> zugu, i checked and no, it wont work
[11:49] <GnarusLeo> anyone got iTunes to work with wine?
[11:49] <stricjux> cge, no.. i have a list of keybindings there
[11:49] <mjr> Krikey, wouldn't advise that, unless XP can gracefully handle the constant seeming "hardware" changes
[11:49] <Frogzoo> cge: which automatic setup? winetools?
[11:49] <stricjux> cge, none of them acutally work
[11:49] <zugu> adventchild: thanks for trying, anyway
[11:49] <Angor> i have a question: can i install a software package even if i dont have internet connection?
[11:49] <olive> lancia: I don't know.
[11:49] <BlueHeron> Angor: if you already have the package
[11:49] <Frogzoo> stricjux: I have had both winetools & sidenet work - just not lately
[11:50] <cge> Frogzoo, not sure. wine automatically sets up .wine when running it for the first time. I haven't used winetools in a long time.
[11:50] <stricjux> Frogzoo, no
[11:50] <Angor> Blue: will i be able to install it without using apt-get?
[11:50] <lancia> olive anyone from marsilles?
[11:50] <Krikey> jr: ok so just use a HD img with XP or 2000 installed?
[11:50] <BlueHeron> Angor: yes if it's a .deb sudo dpkg -i name.deb
[11:50] <adventchild> moo
[11:50] <BlueHeron> gnomefreak: supp
[11:50] <Frogzoo> cge: thx that helps narrow it down
[11:50] <stricjux> Frogzoo, sorry.. randomly replyed.. is winetools&sidenet relevant to my problem?
[11:51] <Angor> Blue: so if it is an rpm i have to convert it into .deb first. ?
[11:51] <gnomefreak> good morning
[11:51] <BlueHeron> Angor: yes, but thats not recommended it can break your system
[11:51] <Frogzoo> stricjux: u have a wine problem?
[11:51] <olive> lancia: no, sorry ! I'm from paris, my uncle near paris...
[11:51] <BlueHeron> better to compile from source than install a .rpm
[11:51] <stricjux> Frogzoo, no.. you just replyed to me
[11:51] <lancia> ah ok his name not Greg is it?
[11:51] <cge> stricjux, hmm... You could try creating a new account and logging in with that to see if the issue with with your user config, or try apt-get --purge remove metacity to remove the system configuration files for metacity, and then install it again.
[11:52] <Angor> Blue: and that means i have to have internet connection right?
[11:52] <BlueHeron> no
[11:52] <lancia> ah ok his name not Greg is it? olive?
[11:52] <BlueHeron> download the source somehow, and you can install it without an internet con
[11:52] <Angor> Blue: ah illuminate me please..im  a noob.
[11:52] <cge> stricjux, Frogzoo - you're mixing up the two issues I was replying to.
[11:52] <Frogzoo> cge: yes, confusing
[11:52] <Angor> Blue: i can do that. download that is.
[11:52] <BlueHeron> Angor: your good to go then
[11:53] <BlueHeron> Angor: make sure you have build-essential which you can get using apt
[11:53] <olive> lancia: no
[11:53] <Angor> hmmm. okey. thanks blue:
[11:53] <lancia> olive thanks
[11:53] <healot> Angor, do we have to set you on fire ? :)
[11:53] <Angor> healot...no im good to go.
[11:53] <gnomefreak> dont remind me
[11:54] <Hexidigital> adventchild... what state?
[11:54] <adventchild> Hexidigital, NH
[11:54] <Hexidigital> PA here
[11:54] <Angor> this is my first week of trying out ubuntu...
[11:54] <Hexidigital> with Linux, every week is the first week
[11:54] <adventchild> Hexidigital, well...  NY, NH. or FL...  NH at the moment
[11:54] <bliss1_> hi again
[11:55] <pedro> hi
[11:55] <adventchild> hi again bliss1_
[11:55] <adventchild> long time no chat
[11:55] <stricjux> cge, ok.. its working
[11:55] <cge> stricjux, with the new user?
[11:55] <bliss1_> Frogzoo: should I copy the cd image to my hard drive because qemu: could not open hard disk image 'Debian 3.1 r1 i386 Bin-1.iso'
[11:56] <healot> the new users are increasing from day to day eh?
[11:56] <bliss1_> adventchild hi
[11:56] <adventchild> yey
[11:56] <stricjux> cge, i tryed a new user... and it worked there and now as i got back to my username.. it works as well...
[11:56] <cge> stricjux, strange
[11:56] <stricjux> cge, but it might do with the fact that i reinstaled metacity, but didnt restart gnome... and now it actually restarted and it works
[11:57] <cge> healot: not really, I only have 37 users in my passwd, whereas I used to have more, if I recall correctly :)
[11:57] <bliss1_> Frogzoo: I can see the image on my desktop
[11:57] <stricjux> cge, anyways - thank you for your help, you've been very helpfull
[11:58] <stricjux> cya ppl.
[11:58] <bliss1_> cge: what do you think
[11:58] <Frogzoo> bliss1_: qemu things that is is a qemu image - check your syntax
[11:58] <Frogzoo> *thinks*
[11:58] <healot> I mean the users of ubuntu, cge,  not the one in your "passwd" file :)
[11:58] <cge> healot, I know...
[11:59] <bliss1_> Frogzoo: here is the line bliss1@xstation:~/qemu$ sudo qemu -cdrom "Debian 3.1 r1 i386 Bin-1.iso" harddisk.img -boot d -m 512
[11:59] <adventchild> where is our great and masterful BOFH?
[12:00] <bliss1_> or even DBO
[12:00] <ubushine> hey -- you kids talking about qemu. is it faster than vmware player?
[12:00] <zepmantra> how can i edit bootsplash image...
[12:01] <cge> ubushine - There is a kernel module, kqemu, which might make qemu faster than vmware player, but I am not sure.
[12:01] <Angor> BlueHeron: is build essential in the 5.10 distribution cds?
[12:01] <adventchild> Seveas, will thoreauputic be back later?
[12:01] <Angor> or do i need to download them also?
[12:01] <Seveas> adventchild, probably
[12:01] <adventchild> ok
[12:01] <adventchild> ty
[12:01] <gnomefreak> Angor: its on the cd iirc
[12:02] <Svennig> if I have a server, with a videocard that X _hates_, can I install just the xorg server bit and VNC and get it working remotely? If so, what do I say to the installer when it wants X resolutions, and how do I stop it booting to a GUI that doesnt work (change the runlevel)?
[12:02] <Angor> gnomefreak: iirc?
[12:02] <bliss1_> cge: there is thats correct do you want the url for install
[12:02] <gnomefreak> iirc = if i remember correctly
[12:02] <Frogzoo> bliss1_: try: sudo qemu  -boot d -m 512 harddisk.img
[12:02] <Angor> aha! hehe
[12:02] <Angor> gnomefreak: thanks.
[12:02] <cge> bliss1_, no, I have kqemu, but I haven't used vmware player, so I don't know whether it is faster.
[12:03] <Frogzoo> bliss1_: I take it you're trying to install debian, & have the cd in the drive
[12:03] <bliss1_> Frogzoo ok
[12:03] <Jonnings> Why does any mail (or simular) i send that contain nordic characters appear as something crazy ( etc) for  the reciever? Is Ubuntu using a different default characterset than what is used in western Europe? In case, can one change the chrset that Ubuntu uses?
[12:03] <gnomefreak> Angor: if its not on the cdrom its in main but im 80% sure its on cdrom
[12:03] <Hybernate> any 1 here that have time to answer a question about a screene of ubuntu
[12:03] <ubushine> kqme is specific for kde?
[12:03] <bliss1_> Frogzoo: yep well its a DVD
[12:03] <Angor> gnomefreak: thanks ill look into it when i get home.
[12:03] <zezu> !810
[12:03] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, zezu
[12:03] <zezu> !i810
[12:03] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, zezu
[12:03] <zezu> worth a try
[12:03] <adventchild> !botsnack
[12:03] <ubotu> :)
[12:03] <orbin> Hybernate: screene?
[12:03] <Hybernate> http://ubuntu-se.org/Wiki/Skrmdumpar?webnail=quartus_marsu-snapshot&action=show
[12:04] <adventchild> !good bot
[12:04] <ubotu> thanks adventchild :)
[12:04] <Angor> i hope i can make ubuntu work out.
[12:04] <bliss1_> Frogzoo: should I give  sudo qemu  -boot d -m 512 harddisk.img a try
[12:04] <Angor> i just lost my windows based games becaue of it...by choice mind you. hhehe
[12:04] <Hybernate> orbin its whats at the bottom of the screenshot i wanna know how hard it it to set up so my ubuntu looks like that
[12:04] <adventchild> Angor, i rid my comp of window$ and am running solely ubuntu...  and i dont know jack about it, but im lovin it
[12:05] <GnarusLeo> How can I check where a ln -s is linked to?
[12:05] <Angor> advent: a leap into the dark eh...hehehe. im glad there are lots of people in the dark...
[12:05] <GnarusLeo> never mind :) ls -l
[12:05] <Nto-> hmm
[12:05] <Angor> heeh
[12:05] <bliss1_> cge: i am not sure lots of kernal issues with VMplayer or is it VMworkstation but yes VM ware is faster i am told
[12:06] <orbin> Hybernate: that's just a transparent panel
[12:06] <orbin> Hybernate: he's using the Edge iconset
[12:06] <Frogzoo> bliss1_: that should work
[12:06] <Hybernate> orbin it looks like it supposed to be like a fast switch between apps
[12:06] <adventchild> Angor, thats the great thing...  people here are ready and willing to help...  not like other places...  if it was not like this, i would not have jumped like that
[12:06] <zezu> anyone used these intel graphics drivers ?
[12:06] <bliss1_> Frogzoo: ok I will give it a go
[12:06] <adventchild> !anyone
[12:06] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[12:06] <zezu> looks like i need to rebuild X with them
[12:06] <orbin> Hybernate: nope. those are just launchers
[12:06] <zezu> so i assumed there would be a page about them in the wiki but i can't find one
[12:06] <Frogzoo> !tell bliss1_ about kqemu
[12:07] <orbin> Hybernate: i know b/c i have those icons :)
[12:07] <adventchild> !tell zezu about drivers
[12:07] <gnomefreak> zezu: you shouldnt have to   theres a wiki page on it if you give me a min ill find it
[12:07] <Hybernate> orbin crap i wanted a fast way to have just one app visible at all time and some realy fast way to switch between them
[12:07] <zezu> gnomefreak, thx
[12:08] <zezu> adventchild, that page is only for ati/nvidia/matrox
[12:08] <adventchild> o
[12:08] <orbin> Hybernate: lol, alt+tab works for me.  i'm sure there's something out there though
[12:08] <Hybernate> orbin like scrolling your mouse wheel to alternate between apps then klick the wheel to shoose the one i want
[12:08] <adventchild> Hybernate, i dont know if it would make it faster, but hotkeys?
[12:09] <baid> hi
[12:09] <orbin> Hybernate: maybe gdesklets has something
[12:09] <Hybernate> adventchild il try that one later
[12:09] <BlueHeron> Hybernate: hey
[12:09] <zezu> gnomefreak, nvm i found it
[12:10] <Hybernate> BlueHeron hello m8
[12:10] <zezu> dont know how i missed it, other than its labelled 915
[12:10] <BlueHeron> Hybernate: did you get your sound fixed
[12:10] <Hexidigital> hehe... gaim tells me i'm logged in 49710 days... which makes me 136 years old (if i were born today)
[12:10] <BlueHeron> Hexidigital: lol
[12:10] <Hybernate> BlueHeron yep found it late last night
[12:10] <BlueHeron> Hybernate: good what was wrong
[12:10] <zezu> err
[12:10] <BlueHeron> Hybernate: and did the skype i installed work good?
[12:10] <zezu> this doesn't use the intel drivers
[12:11] <gnomefreak> zezu: what card is it?
[12:11] <Hybernate> BlueHeron i was so in to playing around with so i hadly got any sleep before work to day
[12:11] <BlueHeron> Hybernate: lol i was stoned like all yesterday
[12:11] <zezu> its an i865 board w/ onboard graphics
[12:11] <BlueHeron> Hybernate: what time is it there
[12:11] <zezu> so it has one of those intel extreme gfx2 dealies
[12:11] <Hybernate> BlueHeron but im totally changing from ms to this far more fun and i get to anoy every one in here with my nooob questions :)
[12:12] <BlueHeron> Hybernate: lol
[12:12] <zezu> garbage probably but it for work and i need hw support on it
[12:12] <BlueHeron> Hybernate: what time is it in sweden
[12:12] <Hybernate> BlueHeron 12.12
[12:12] <Hybernate> BlueHeron mid day
[12:14] <Hybernate> BlueHeron i need to find a beginners guid to be a beginner in this. or a channel with ppl that never gets tierd of silly questions from me
[12:15] <AdventChild> Hybernate, a beg guide to ubuntu?
[12:15] <gnomefreak> where did the wiki on intels go?
[12:15] <Hybernate> AdventChild: ya something like that
[12:15] <orbin> Hybernate: sys>help>starterguide
[12:15] <BlueHeron> forgive Hybernate he is from sweden
[12:15] <AdventChild> Hybernate, http://www.tuxfiles.org/
[12:15] <Hybernate> AdventChild: i mean i cant eaven figure out how much disk space i have left in this
[12:16] <dominic_> anybody can help me
[12:16] <dominic_> i install yahoo messenger
[12:16] <AdventChild> !anyone
[12:16] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[12:16] <dominic_> in my ubuntu 5.10
[12:16] <dominic_> i completely installed the ym
[12:16] <gnomefreak> dominic_: please use gaim yahoo messenger isnt worth a dime in linux
[12:17] <dominic_> but i cant find yahoo chat room or roomlist
[12:17] <dominic_> yes i have my gaim
[12:17] <dominic_> gaim-vv
[12:17] <Hybernate> AdventChild: thx that seems to be just the right page for me
[12:17] <Angor> BlueHeron: there is another thing that's bugging me. i cant see my fat 32 partition. i only have one hard disk (sata) i supposed to have 3 partitions on it 1 ntfs, 1fat32, 1ext
[12:17] <dominic_> what i'am trying is to have yahoo also
[12:17] <AdventChild> Hybernate, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands ; http://www.linuxcommand.org
[12:17] <Angor> or maybe 4. a swap.
[12:17] <BlueHeron> Angor: so you have 1 missing partition, and it's fat32 ?
[12:17] <Angor> all i can see is one big partition and twp tmpfs
[12:18] <BlueHeron> Angor: run gparted it will show you exactly what you have
[12:18] <gnomefreak> zezu: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/915resolution/0.5-1ubuntu2
[12:18] <Angor> ah. okey. from live cd right?
[12:18] <AdventChild> np Hybernate
[12:18] <orbin> Angor: or just run fdisk -l
[12:18] <BlueHeron> Angor: no you can do it now
[12:18] <BlueHeron> orbin: i think he needs a graphical map of it
[12:18] <AdventChild> Hybernate, you get the other 2 as well?
[12:18] <dominic_> anybody knows that
[12:18] <zezu> gnomefreak, yes that is worthless
[12:18] <dominic_> any idea
[12:19] <dominic_> wer i can find a room list in yahoo messenger
[12:19] <Angor> Blue: my pc with the ubuntu is at home. im at school right now. :) thanks for the suggestions.
[12:19] <dominic_> or yahoo chat
[12:19] <orbin> BlueHeron: ah
[12:19] <zezu> it uses a software driver the i810 driver for all of those chipsets
[12:19] <zezu> that 915resolution is just to get a higher resolution or smth
[12:19] <orbin> dominic_: wrong channel
[12:19] <Angor> orbin: thanks. ill try that too.
[12:20] <BlueHeron> BOFH ?
[12:20] <gnomefreak> zezu: ah well there used to be a wiki i thought but i cant find it anywhere :(
[12:20] <AdventChild> dominic_, try #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:20] <Angor> orbin: is fdisk a bash command?
[12:20] <Angor> isnt it dos?
[12:20] <Angor> or windows?
[12:21] <AdventChild> Angor, fdisk is a dos cmd
[12:21] <BlueHeron> i think it's both
[12:21] <dominic_> how to install plugins for totem player like wma
[12:21] <Angor> thought so too.
[12:21] <Angor> heheh.
[12:21] <AdventChild> !tell dominic_ about mp3
[12:21] <orbin> Angor: it's also a linux command
[12:21] <Angor> Blue: isnt df command enough to tell me what partition i have?
[12:21] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell dominic_ about w32codecs
[12:21] <AdventChild> dominic_, read that...  will tell you everything you need to know about that
[12:21] <dominic_> thanks
[12:22] <pramirez> ola
[12:22] <Angor> ahhh
[12:22] <gnomefreak> !wma
[12:22] <ubotu> hmm... restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[12:22] <Angor> orbin: you are right there.
[12:22] <zezu> yea i dont know, i guess i'll just suck it up and go along w/ the full rebuild of Xorg
[12:22] <AdventChild> gnomefreak, i didnt know that...  i thought it was solely dos
[12:22] <pramirez> my messegers es patridecorpe11@hotmail.com
[12:22] <gnomefreak> AdventChild: what?
[12:22] <gnomefreak> w32?
[12:22] <AdventChild> gnomefreak, sry...  wrong line
[12:22] <Angor> no fdisk
[12:23] <AdventChild> orbin, i didnt know that...  i thought it was solely dos
[12:23] <orbin> AdventChild: man fdisk
[12:23] <zezu> well the hell with it .. i'm off to bed its 6am gnite
[12:23] <Angor> yes i saw it in redhad linux
[12:23] <BlueHeron> redhad linux
[12:23] <BlueHeron> fresh out the box
[12:23] <zoor2> If I have one hdd on which I have installed the ubuntu OS on. And then get another HDD. Do I want it to be a logical or a primary? Whats the difference? And whats the difference between ext2 and ext3?
[12:23] <zoor2> *confused*
[12:23] <AdventChild> orbin, and fdisk is a partition manager like in dos?
[12:23] <Angor> hehe
[12:24] <Angor> it says so here.
[12:24] <BlueHeron> zoor2: ext3 is best because it keeps a log of your files incase your power goes out or something
[12:24] <AdventChild> zoor2, probably logical
[12:24] <zoor2> BlueHeron, Ahh... thanks :)
[12:24] <Angor> orbin but when i run the command in linux, it says no command
[12:24] <zoor2> AdventChild, thanks :)
[12:24] <orbin> AdventChild: the man page would give a better descr. than i could manage
[12:24] <Angor> it says command not found
[12:24] <AdventChild> zoor2, you should only have 1 primary unless you are dual booting i believe
[12:25] <orbin> Angor: what command did you use?
[12:25] <Angor> fdisk -s
[12:25] <AdventChild> orbin, ill check it out.. ty
[12:25] <zoor2> AdventChild, so the primary is reserved for operatingsystems more or less?
[12:25] <AdventChild> zoor2, eh...  idk...  i guess
[12:25] <zoor2> ok :)
[12:25] <zoor2> thanks anyway :)
[12:25] <BlueHeron> you cna have 4 primary partitions
[12:26] <BlueHeron> per HD
[12:26] <BlueHeron> after that it's logical
[12:26] <BlueHeron> primary = faster i do believe
[12:26] <orbin> AdventChild: most people ususally use it just to list partition tables.  manipulation is easier to do with gparted.
[12:26] <BlueHeron> and logical = not bootable i think.
[12:26] <AdventChild> BlueHeron, unless you use bootitNG
[12:26] <BlueHeron> AdventChild: ??
[12:27] <AdventChild> BlueHeron, with BootItNG, you can have i believe up to 270 primaries...
[12:27] <AdventChild> idk why you would want it, but you can
[12:27] <AdventChild> lol
[12:27] <BlueHeron> AdventChild: idon't think so
[12:27] <BlueHeron> that sounds rediculous
[12:27] <Angor> hehehe
[12:27] <AdventChild> i know, but its true...  in "theroy"
[12:27] <Angor> redhad
[12:28] <Angor> redhad lidux
[12:28] <AdventChild> bless ya
[12:28] <Angor> danks
[12:28] <Angor> :)
[12:28] <Hexidigital> BlueHeron, talking about partitions... i have 2 hdd's and 2 cdr's... both channels have a hdd and a cdd.... pretty efficient
[12:29] <BlueHeron> Hexidigital: yea
[12:29] <healot> hum
[12:29] <orbin> Angor: er, it's redhat you know
[12:29] <Angor> orbin: )
[12:29] <orbin> lol, nvm
[12:29] <healot> the difference between "primary" and "logical" partition is just the way how OS sees it :)
[12:30] <bliss1_> hi
[12:30] <Angor> danks
[12:30] <AdventChild> why hello yet AGAIN bliss1_
[12:30] <AdventChild> lol
[12:30] <bliss1_> Frogzoo: look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11519
[12:30] <Angor> Gotta go people. thanks heron, orin and Advent ..
[12:31] <Angor> orbin i mean
[12:31] <bliss1_> adventChild hi P45 any day now
[12:31] <AdventChild> this will fix your cold like that
[12:31] <Angor> what's a doobie?
[12:31] <Angor> ehehe
[12:31] <AdventChild> ttyl Angor
[12:31] <Angor> thanks again. ill be back on saturday.
[12:32] <AdventChild> bliss1_, huh?
[12:32] <kingspawn> well this is just special
[12:32] <bliss1_> AdventChild; its a form you get when your fired its very common name here
[12:32] <bliss1_> get
[12:33] <AdventChild> oh...  i call it a pink slip
[12:33] <AdventChild> lol
[12:33] <gnomefreak> can you guys please take the offtopic talk to #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:33] <bliss1_> AdventChild: pink slip ok
[12:34] <bliss1_> Frogzoo: did you read the url
[12:34] <AdventChild> just not much topic talk going on at the moment
[12:34] <ringe>  I've got the local Army asking me to provide them with Red Hat. They want a web/db server. Of course I'm promoting Ubuntu. They're asking for documentation, and all I've got is this: http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/ to compare with Red Hat's https://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/enterprise/
[12:34] <bliss1_> bliss1 now know assystemcrash
[12:34] <ringe> The Army, as in a small division
[12:34] <BlueHeron> ringe: are you a terrorist
[12:35] <babo> I need to store all my mail in mysql ... anyone have any ideas how to do this ... ?
[12:35] <BlueHeron> please use redhat for any terrorist activities
[12:35] <AdventChild> yes
[12:35] <AdventChild> dont screw us over
[12:35] <Hexidigital> blueheron, lol
[12:35] <ringe> Because they want me to provide redhat? I want them to use Ubuntu.
[12:35] <pr0fane> hello
[12:35] <Hexidigital> hello
[12:36] <AdventChild> ringe, cant they get redhat themselves? and wouldnt it be better to use fedora 5 than redhat?
[12:36] <pr0fane> hw do i boot up into ubuntu if it tells please insert a proper boot device
[12:36] <AdventChild> pr0fane, are you using the live cd?
[12:36] <Hexidigital> pr0fane, what hdd did you install the boot loader?
[12:36] <ringe> AdventChild: Yes, and no. Fedora comes with no warranties. That's not suitable for the army.
[12:36] <bliss1_> Adventchild: to screw  us over I understand to screw but over does that mean twice
[12:36] <pr0fane> im using the iso cd that i used and copyied the files over to the cd
[12:37] <AdventChild> bliss1_, yup :-P
[12:37] <ringe> I wonder if anyone has any _professional_ arguments about Ubuntu over Red Hat.
[12:37] <ESPOiG> is xubuntu gunna be released as a seperate cd this time ? with 6.06
[12:37] <AdventChild> pr0fane, did you burn as a prgm or as an iso?
[12:37] <AdventChild> !info xubuntu
[12:37] <pr0fane> as a program
[12:37] <bliss1_> Frogzoo; well must be hot in aussie
[12:37] <liable> pr0fane: huh? how exactly have you installed ubuntu??
[12:37] <userbn_> hi
[12:37] <pr0fane> i havent installed it copyied it as a program to the cd
[12:38] <gnomefreak> ESPOiG: thats the plan
[12:38] <AdventChild> have you installed it yet?
[12:38] <ESPOiG> aws
[12:38] <ESPOiG> thx gnomefrek
[12:38] <ESPOiG> *freak
[12:38] <pr0fane> it says i cant install it.
[12:38] <vievie> hi
[12:38] <gnomefreak> ESPOiG: there is a iso image for xubuntu now
[12:38] <Hexidigital> pr0fane, you have to install it to run it (unless you use the LiveCD)
[12:38] <AdventChild> pr0fane, change the boot order in your bios to boot from cd and try that
[12:38] <ESPOiG> realy were is it... i havnt come accross it
[12:38] <bliss1_> great frogzoo has gone but life goes on
[12:38] <Hexidigital> pr0fane, try burning the ISO to a cd
[12:38] <pr0fane> i have tryied that @ AdventChild
[12:38] <gnomefreak> ESPOiG: i dont think your gonna get a cd from ship it i think that is gonna stay ubuntu only
[12:38] <pr0fane> wile i cant coz ive formated allready
[12:38] <AdventChild> you also need to make it a bootable disk...  not just a program
[12:39] <pr0fane> advent how do i make it a bootable disc
[12:39] <Hexidigital> !bootdisk
[12:39] <ubotu> [bootdisk]  if your BIOS doesn't support booting your CD-drive, create a bootfloppy: http://linux.simple.be/tools/sbm
[12:39] <gnomefreak> ESPOiG:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu
[12:39] <ESPOiG> gnomefreak: nah i just download em neway
[12:39] <AdventChild> what burning software do you use?
[12:39] <Hexidigital> !tell pr0fane about bootdisk
[12:39] <vievie> abnix
[12:39] <bliss1_> gnomefreak: i need some advice please can you read http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11519
[12:39] <gnomefreak> ESPOiG: the above link should take you there
[12:40] <AdventChild> pr0fane, what burning software do you use?
[12:40] <pr0fane> thanks 4 help
[12:40] <pr0fane> im using xp
[12:40] <Hexidigital> np, pr0fane
[12:40] <pr0fane> will live cdies help me more?
[12:40] <pr0fane> :)
[12:40] <AdventChild> thats your os pr0fane
[12:40] <pr0fane> coz im picking up those cds.
[12:40] <AdventChild> what burning software are you using?
[12:41] <pr0fane> u get from shipping.
[12:41] <pr0fane> normal windows @ AdventChild
[12:41] <Hexidigital> pr0fane, use the install cd's if you can
[12:41] <AdventChild> pr0fane, took me over a month to get my copies from them
[12:41] <gnomefreak> bliss1_: it sounds like a bad cd (if you had cdrom in drive) but never used qemu
[12:41] <ESPOiG> thx gnomefreak
[12:41] <gnomefreak> ESPOiG: yw
[12:41] <pr0fane> im getting it from some one that has it  :)
[12:41] <orbin> AdventChild: that all? i waited 4 mths for hoary
[12:41] <Cobain> has anyone had any luck getting vmware workstation to recognize usb devices?
[12:42] <AdventChild> pr0fane, check in the options for 'make disk bootable'
[12:42] <bliss1_> gnomefreak: its  A DVD and its new and official could copy it to harddrive
[12:43] <Hexidigital> will Ship-It send out Dapper cd's before the official release?
[12:43] <gnomefreak> bliss1_: new and official doesnt really mean anything except noone else has owned it it doesnt mean the disk has no flaws in it
[12:43] <gnomefreak> Hexidigital: no
[12:43] <Cicero_> hi all
[12:43] <ESPOiG> gnomefreak: neway i read that with 6.06 comin out that Kubuntu is gunna be released via shipit
[12:43] <AdventChild> orbin, yup...  i ordered 30 copies of badger to distro and they got here in about 1 mnth
[12:44] <gnomefreak> ESPOiG: i havent seen that yet but it is possible
[12:44] <ESPOiG> gnomefreak: ill see if i can find were i read it
[12:44] <orbin> AdventChild: nice. to be fair, i'm not in the US
[12:44] <bliss1_> gnomefreak: bootson reboot  ok I could clean it or copy/
[12:44] <AdventChild> lol...  they came from netherland tho...
[12:45] <p62> #ubuntu-ru
[12:45] <BlueHeron> < is stoned
[12:46] <BlueHeron> not often
[12:46] <BlueHeron> if i'm not it's a bad day
[12:46] <AdventChild> orbin, how many copies did you order?
[12:46] <orbin> AdventChild: lol, 1.
[12:46] <AdventChild> BlueHeron, well...  your stoned today, stoned yesterday..........
[12:46] <AdventChild> lol
[12:46] <AdventChild> orbin, next time try getting 30 copies...
[12:47] <AdventChild> then hand em out
[12:47] <ESPOiG> gnomefreak: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/dapper
[12:47] <gnomefreak> ty ESPOiG
[12:47] <BlueHeron> aventlol
[12:48] <BlueHeron> <has like a half
[12:48] <BlueHeron> or less
[12:48] <ESPOiG> tis 1 hour till 7:50pm here
[12:48] <AdventChild> its about 7 am here
[12:48] <ESPOiG> lol
[12:48] <ESPOiG> who goes on comp that early
[12:48] <gnomefreak> guys #ubuntu-offtopic for chit chat please
[12:48] <orbin> AdventChild: what happens on friday?
[12:48] <AdventChild> ah hah!
[12:48] <AdventChild> never went to sleep
[12:48] <AdventChild> thats who
[12:49] <ESPOiG> lol
[12:49] <AdventChild> orbin, i graduate Friday!!!!!!!
[12:49] <BlueHeron> Please, show me a sign
[12:49] <AdventChild> college
[12:49] <orbin> AdventChild: ah.
[12:49] <gilianima> is there a big poster somewhere about the TCP/IP layers that I could put on my wall ?
[12:49] <ESPOiG> neone know howto get terminal like this http://ubuntuforums.org/gallery/showimage.php?i=1875&original=1&c=newimages or is it a dapper thing
[12:49] <BlueHeron> AdventChild: get off my cock strap
[12:49] <k31th> How messed up is this, im trying to burn a 88mb cd ISO and k3b is asking me to put in a dvd -R dual layer disk
[12:50] <gnomefreak> !ops
[12:50] <ubotu> Help! lilo, fabbione, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee
[12:50] <BlueHeron> oh man..
[12:50] <BlueHeron> i'm sorry..
[12:50] <BlueHeron> great
[12:50] <apokryphos> ?
[12:50] <bliss1_> gnomefreak: If i copy it how to do copy it as aiso image
[12:50] <osfameron> gilianima: most people put art, pinups, or bands...
[12:50] <apokryphos> hm
[12:50] <gnomefreak> apokryphos: hes got it
[12:50] <ESPOiG> y ban em Seveas
[12:51] <gilianima> osfameron: i prefer science and technology
[12:51] <Seveas> folks, take the offtopic talk to #ubuntu-offtopic, this room is for support
[12:51] <ESPOiG> bliss1_ wats ur prob
[12:51] <gnomefreak> ESPOiG: i think any gnome terminal or most of them can do close to that its in the setttings for terminal
[12:51] <ESPOiG> gnomefreak: do u know wat section it maybe in
[12:52] <ESPOiG> gnomefreak: cuz i had a quick look
[12:52] <gnomefreak> ESPOiG: edit>current profile>effects   but there is also a section in current profile for making the tool bar go away
[12:52] <ESPOiG> oh dear... how do i get the menu bar back for terminal?
[12:53] <orbin> ESPOiG: right-click on it
[12:53] <ruschi> I am just building a kernel and realited I have to have AGP support for  framebuffer but I don't have AGP hardware - is there any PCIe module for framebuffer??
[12:53] <ESPOiG> orbin: ty
[12:53] <bliss1_> EDP0iG ; I had this problem http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11519 so I want TO copy image to my desktop
[12:54] <Seveas> apokryphos, have you seen http://bugbot.ubuntulinux.nl/bans.cgi already?
[12:55] <ESPOiG> bliss1_ sorry i dont know :P... it was worth a shot
[12:55] <apokryphos> Seveas: haven't seen that but recall you mentioning it once I think
[12:55] <Seveas> apokryphos, please have a look ;)
[12:55] <apokryphos> Seveas: very cool :)
[12:56] <Hexidigital> gotta go study for a big economics test today... enjoy everyone!
[12:56] <apokryphos> will use it if I wanna add extra comments, fo rsure.
[12:56] <Seveas> apokryphos, /kick or /remove messages are used as comments too 
[12:57] <apokryphos> Seveas: it's very nice; good going 8)
[12:57] <bliss1_> gnomefreak: whats the command line for copying a DVD from cd rom drive to home dir?
[12:57] <Seveas> thanks 
[12:58] <gnomefreak> bliss1_: afaik you can use the cp command
[12:58] <Frogzoo> bliss1_: sudo dd if=/dev/hdc of=/home/user/blah.iso bs=1000000
[12:58] <giany911> is azureus on synaptic/
[12:58] <Frogzoo> !tell giany911 about azureus
[12:58] <bliss1_> Frogzoo: thanks did you read the patse bin
[12:59] <giany911> frogzoo ty vm
[12:59] <Bambino> Dear people of ubuntu, I have a 100gig hdd, split in 2. One partion for Win and one for ubuntu. Now I have made so i have access to my win partition. However, i take some screenshots in ubuntu and wanna put them in the windows partion. It says access denied. I have it as read/write.. any ideas?
[01:00] <orbin> Bambino: i'm assuming it's fat32 then
[01:00] <bliss1_> Frogzoo: here we go http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11519
[01:00] <ESPOiG> is there a terminal equivelent for xubuntu
[01:01] <dtamas> How can I change the phisycal address of my PCMCIA card under ubuntu?
[01:01] <orbin> ESPOiG: that deos't make much sense.
[01:01] <ESPOiG> Bambino: if it is NTFS it wont happen... but if it fat32 are u then in it with root access
[01:02] <bliss1_> Frogzoo: do I put the blah.iso in parenthases and whars bs=1000000 mean?
[01:02] <ESPOiG> orbin: like konsole = kde terminal = gnome
[01:02] <ESPOiG> orbin: if u get me
[01:02] <Krikey> how can I mount windows network floder using fstab?
[01:02] <orbin> ESPOiG: konsole = kde terminal, gnome-terminal = gnome's terminal, xterm = xfce's terminal
[01:03] <ESPOiG> orbin: thx
[01:03] <bimberi> Krikey: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[01:03] <orbin> ESPOiG: but you can install any of the three terminal in any of the three desktop environs.
[01:04] <ESPOiG> orbin: yeh know that but ty neway
[01:04] <Krikey> bimberi, thanks
[01:04] <bimberi> Krikey: yw :)
[01:04] <Frogzoo> bliss1_: man dd ;)
[01:04] <Bambino> ESPOiG, It is a FAT32. But how you mean root access? I right clicked on the "windows" icon, and added read and write for all users
[01:06] <orbin> Bambino: how did you mount it?
[01:06] <Frogzoo> sudo qemu -cdrom /dev/cdrom -boot d -m 512 harddisk.img
[01:06] <ESPOiG> well did u try doin sumtin like 'gksudo nautilus' and then accessin then tryin
[01:06] <Frogzoo> bliss1_: ^^
[01:07] <ESPOiG> Bambine: well did u try doin sumtin like 'gksudo nautilus' and then accessin then tryin
[01:07] <Bambino> orbin, I cliked on system i think then disks. and then i added it there, the hda2.. and added it to /media/windows
[01:08] <ESPOiG> is there ne settings for xterm
[01:08] <bliss1_> Frogzoo: you want me to try again with sudo qemu -cdrom /dev/cdrom -boot d -m 512 harddisk.img?
[01:08] <Frogzoo> bliss1_: yup
[01:08] <bliss1_> Frogzoo: did you read the pastebin!!
[01:08] <Frogzoo> bliss1_: make sure you have the link /dev/cdrom, or just replace your cd's device
[01:08] <Frogzoo> bliss1_: yes
[01:09] <exiodus_> am i still banned?
[01:09] <Cobain> yes
[01:09] <Frogzoo> exiodus_: apparently not...
[01:10] <Krikey> bimberi, the link you supplied was to mount local partitions. How do I mount a networked folder?
[01:10] <Krikey> eg a folder on another PC
[01:10] <Frogzoo> Krikey: man mount - use smbmount for smbfs
[01:11] <bimberi> Krikey: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently :)
[01:11] <orbin> Bambino: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[01:11] <bliss1_> Frogzoo: link as in ln command, or how replace cd device? I will give what you said a try? after a coffee
[01:11] <Bambino> orbin, thanks
[01:11] <bimberi> Krikey: ^^^^^ (sorry Bambino)
[01:12] <bimberi> Krikey: apologies for misreading your Q too :)
[01:12] <Krikey> np
[01:12] <Krikey> I got local partitions set up in the FStab fine
[01:12] <orbin> AdventChild: hello again
[01:13] <vge> http://pastebin.com/641730 <-- does that mean im using wrong patch version to patch my kernel?
[01:14] <Frogzoo> Krikey: the fstab entry will vary depending on what you're mounting, see bimberi's link ^^^ if it's a windows share
[01:14] <exiodus_> Seveas...  how long is my ban going to be?
[01:15] <exiodus_> im sorry about that and will keep all chat related to the topic
[01:18] <Noeve> Afternoon. I'm having a problem with Gnome - when I log in, I get the background, but no menus or icons... Has anyone seen this before ?
[01:19] <orbin> yep.  search the forum
[01:19] <nihil_> hello ;) I'm ubuntu noob and I don't know how to install themes for gnome and firefox
[01:20] <orbin> !themes
[01:20] <nihil_> I've never had linux on computer before
[01:20] <orbin> ubotu: tell nihil_ about themes
[01:20] <drbreen> ok
[01:20] <drbreen> themes for firefox
[01:20] <nihil_> yep
[01:20] <drbreen> you can get them @ the firefox homepage
[01:20] <drbreen> wait
[01:20] <ubuntu_rules> hello all
[01:21] <nihil_> i've downloaded one and don't know what i should do
[01:21] <ubuntu_rules> is wine the only program of its kind that is free?
[01:22] <xsje>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY nope666
[01:22] <osfameron> yes, or no, depending on what you mean by "of its kind"
[01:22] <drbreen> https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/themes/
[01:22] <mjr> ubuntu_rules, not really, but the other one is pretty much out of date
[01:22] <ubuntu_rules> osfameron, i mean to run a windows based cd
[01:23] <drbreen> you can change themes in the firefox menu
[01:23] <bliss1_> Frogzoo ok ran sudo qemu -cdrom /dev/cdrom -boot d -m 512 harddisk.img qemu: could not open hard disk image 'harddisk.img'
[01:23] <drbreen> nihil_: menu -> extras -> themes
[01:24] <nihil_> yes, but after downloading a theme I still cannot see it in themes menu to activate it
[01:24] <ubuntu_rules> i am trying to run a windows cd using wine and it just wont work...
[01:24] <drbreen> that is strange
[01:24] <orbin> ubuntu_rules: #winehq
[01:25] <ubuntu_rules> orbin, ty
[01:25] <gnomefreak> ubuntu_rules: you cant run win in wine only some win apps
[01:25] <drbreen> nihil_: how do you download themes ?
[01:25] <ubuntu_rules> gnomefreak, i dont mean the os
[01:25] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell drbreen about themes
[01:25] <gnomefreak> oh ok
[01:25] <ubuntu_rules> gnomefreak, i mean a windowsbased cd
[01:25] <gnomefreak> ubuntu_rules: im assuming you saved the .exe to your system?
[01:26] <ubuntu_rules> gnomefreak, like on the hd?
[01:26] <gnomefreak> ubuntu_rules: yep
[01:26] <nihil_> so, I've downloaded the file abstract_pc-1.0-fx.jar and i don't know what to do with it ;)
[01:26] <ubuntu_rules> gnomefreak, ...
[01:26] <Khamael> can I scan documents and save them as .pdf in ubuntu?
[01:26] <ubuntu_rules> gnomefreak, no...   i tried to run it off the cd
[01:26] <gnomefreak> ubuntu_rules: you run wine like this   wine file.exe   how are you gonna do that from cd?
[01:26] <orbin> nihil_: so why'd you download it? :P
[01:26] <{DanE}> need help, anyone know what the max password length is on PGP desktop
[01:27] <ubuntu_rules> wine /media/cdrom0/file.exe
[01:27] <gnomefreak> ubuntu_rules: cedega will run the cds
[01:27] <orbin> nihil_: file <filename> tells you what it is
[01:27] <drbreen> the right way is to
[01:27] <drbreen> nihil_:
[01:27] <{DanE}> i did a hole disk encrypt and my pass aint working on my windows box so i cant boot up laptop or install windows again
[01:27] <kbrooks> orbin:
[01:27] <drbreen> nihil_: not actually download a theme but
[01:28] <kbrooks> orbin: xterm isnt xfce's terminal
[01:28] <orbin> Khamael: what does xsane save them as?
[01:28] <ubuntu_rules> gnomefreak, ill try it that way... i was using wine /media/cdrom0/file.exe
[01:28] <kbrooks> orbin: xterm doesnt stand for that
[01:28] <drbreen> nihil_: click on "install now" in firefox
[01:28] <{DanE}> <------ is f**cked
[01:28] <{DanE}> :(
[01:28] <drbreen> at the themes page
[01:28] <Krikey> where is the wastebin in ubuntu?
[01:28] <ubuntu_rules> ty
[01:28] <kbrooks> orbin: xterm stands for "X Terminal"
[01:28] <Krikey> its not on my desktop
[01:28] <{DanE}> Krikey: its at the bottom right
[01:28] <drbreen> waste bin in ubuntu is @ places menu
[01:28] <kbrooks> Krikey: trash, see garbage icon at bottom right
[01:29] <drbreen> oh sorry
[01:29] <reiki> interesting... I am now running Dapper Flight 6 inside a VM using VMware with Breezy as host and Dapper as guest.
[01:29] <Khamael> orbin, jpg and tiff, I think
[01:29] <drbreen> its at the bottom right
[01:29] <Krikey> ah yes
[01:29] <Krikey> in the men bar
[01:29] <Krikey> menu
[01:29] <drbreen> nihil_: ? could i help you ?
[01:29] <orbin> kbrooks: ah, yes. wondered why i felt bad when i was typing it.  thanks for the correction.
[01:29] <Khamael> orbin, and how do I set it to scan an a4 page?
[01:29] <{DanE}> anyone know the max password lengh for PGP ?
[01:29] <reiki> and now, of course, after getting it working ... I have to go get ready for work.
[01:30] <{DanE}> my pass aint working, and its a long password taken from a book paraghraph
[01:30] <orbin> Khamael: dunno. i was just asking out of interest.  you can always insert the image into a doc and then export it to pdf
[01:30] <bliss1_> {DanE} which version of PGP are you useing
[01:30] <{DanE}> bliss1: its the windows desktop version 9
[01:30] <orbin> kbrooks: so does xfce have a default terminal?
[01:31] <kbrooks> orbin: i dont think so.
[01:31] <{DanE}> hole disk encrypted so im naffed, cant do anything now , im stuck at boot screen
[01:31] <{DanE}> <--- what i plonker !!!!!!
[01:31] <orbin> kbrooks: right then
[01:32] <kbrooks> bliss1_: pgp cant encrypt hard disks
[01:32] <bliss1_> {DanE} sure you have got it exackly correct and have you used it before with version 9
[01:32] <nihil_> drbreen are you there?
[01:32] <kbrooks> bliss1_: HELLO?
[01:32] <{DanE}> yes that is correct, its called PGP Desktop 9
[01:32] <kbrooks> bliss1_: pgp cant encrypt hard disks!!!
[01:32] <kbrooks> ] \9I
[01:33] <{DanE}> kbrooks: yes you can
[01:33] <drbreen> nihil_: yeah i am
[01:33] <kbrooks> {DanE}: ...
[01:33] <bliss1_> kbrooks: yes i HEARD YOU the fist time ok I though it was a password problem
[01:33] <kbrooks> {DanE}: well, gpg doesnt let you...
[01:33] <{DanE}> kbrooks: you can do a hole disk encrypt
[01:33] <{DanE}> its windows based
[01:34] <Krikey> ive been running qemu and trying to install win2000 for around 2 hours now. Its still going! is this normal?
[01:34] <rixth> How do I search and replce across multiple text files?
[01:34] <{DanE}> i was just wondering if the password had been cut off because of length restrictions
[01:35] <{DanE}> for example:   password   == passwo
[01:35] <{DanE}> maxed the lengh
[01:35] <vegeta_> krikey how fast is your system?
[01:35] <nihil_> drbreen, what i should do with tag.gz and .jar files -> themes for firefox
[01:35] <Krikey> 2600+
[01:35] <Krikey> amd
[01:36] <dtamas> how can I change mac adress on boot?
[01:36] <vegeta_> krikey if it isnt done in 30 more mins it maybe stuck
[01:36] <drbreen> nihil_: you should not download them but "install" them
[01:36] <orbin> rixth: maybe make a script that makes repeated sed calls
[01:36] <drbreen> nihil_: but i believe there is a ff extension that lets you install jars and the like from disk
[01:36] <Krikey> vegeta_, its been detecting for a while and the progress bar has been sat at 100% for about 30 mins
[01:36] <drbreen> nihil_: wait
[01:37] <rixth> orbin, sed?
[01:37] <nihil_> okay
[01:37] <vegeta_> krikey yeah its stuck
[01:37] <Krikey> right
[01:37] <Krikey> vegeta_, ive got mouse movement and can move the windows within qemu
[01:38] <Den> Hi - What's the best Firewall GUI in Ubuntu?
[01:38] <orbin> rixth: e.g. sudo sed -e 's/"ati"/"fglrx"/' -i /etc/X11/xorg.conf ... that replaces occurrences of ati w/ fglrx in xorg.conf
[01:38] <kbrooks> !tell Den about firestarter
[01:38] <rixth> Oh cool, thanks!
[01:38] <vegeta_> krikey but you cant install 2000?
[01:39] <orbin> rixth: i'm sure someone's written one already.  google
[01:39] <gabbah> hi. My system keeps crashing or some error occurs that I don't notice, and suddenly the filesystem is read-only, and I always need to perform fsck manually on reboot. Perhaps my disk is damaged or something. Is there some log where I can see what is going wrong when the error occurs?
[01:39] <Krikey> its installing/detecting at present and a window is present saying that it is detecting
[01:39] <vegeta_> just kill it and see if it will load win2000
[01:40] <vegeta_> kill and restart
[01:40] <tooleh> Hi, got some more problems :D
[01:41] <tooleh> 1. Mp3s wont load, and I installed the w32codecs package :/
[01:41] <tooleh> 2. Jpgs, pngs etc wont load (access denied?)
[01:41] <drbreen> nihil_:http://www.mneptok.com/static/firefox-install-theme.html
[01:41] <drbreen> ???
[01:41] <Titan> how do I change the permissions on a folder and everything underneath it again?
[01:41] <tooleh> !w32codecs
[01:41] <ubotu> somebody said w32codecs was a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[01:41] <orbin> is there any way to get ctrl+v functionality in gnome-terminal?
[01:41] <drbreen> chmod a+x blablupp -R
[01:41] <vge> is 2.6.16.1 kernel version same as fully patched patch-2.6.16-rc6.gz?
[01:42] <healot> 2.6.16.1 is the latest, rc6 is the previous candidate
[01:42] <Titan> how do I change the permissions on a folder and everything underneath it again?
[01:42] <nihil_> drbreen thanx ;) I'll look at it
[01:42] <vge> so basically 1 is beond rc6?
[01:43] <ubuntu> 8170842
[01:43] <tooleh> Ok w32codecs says  "Setting up w32codecs (20050412-0.0) ...
[01:43] <tooleh>  "
[01:43] <tooleh> then I just get put back to the term
[01:43] <tooleh> so I don't think it actually does anything
[01:43] <orbin> Titan: drbreen told you. chmod -R
[01:44] <Titan> orbin thanks
[01:45] <orbin> is there any way to get ctrl+v functionality in gnome-terminal?
[01:45] <tooleh> How do I get surround sound?
[01:46] <ESPOiG> how good is xfce for runnin on slower comps... it is better than gnome and kde right?
[01:46] <apokryphos> generally, yes.
[01:46] <ESPOiG> ok thx
[01:46] <TomaszD> orbin, ctrl+shift+v
[01:47] <tooleh> also Shift Insert
[01:47] <orbin> TomaszDm, tooleh:  thankyou, that worked
[01:47] <Delicates> what ext3 settings would you use for a 500 GB FS?
[01:48] <apokryphos> what do you mean?
[01:48] <Delicates> optimisation
[01:48] <Arafangion> Delicates: Umm, what's wrong with the defaults?
[01:48] <apokryphos> if you're talking about options in fstab then it depends entirely on how you wish to use it
[01:48] <tooleh> orbin: Have you any idea why jpegs/pngs/bmps/anything won't load?
[01:48] <{DanE}> sorted the PGP out now..... it was a problem with the "." full stop key, it was putting a > instead
[01:49] <Arafangion> Delicates: Do you have mainly very large files, or mainly very small files?
[01:49] <orbin> tooleh: using what app?
[01:49] <BangBang> hi guys
[01:49] <tooleh> orbin: Anything - adding as desktop wp, imageviewer
[01:49] <Krikey> has anyone got Dreamweaver 8 working with WINE yet?
[01:50] <BangBang> anyone here run ubuntu on asus notebook w3v
[01:50] <BangBang> ???
[01:50] <Arafangion> BangBang: I run ubuntu on a v6v
[01:51] <orbin> tooleh: weird.  do you get any errors, say if you run: eog <file> ?
[01:51] <BangBang> arafangion what is the average temperature for your box arafangion ?
[01:51] <bliss1_> Frogzoo; ok I made a copy os iso as suggested
[01:52] <Arafangion> BangBang: Mine's metal, and that tends to make them a bit hotter.
[01:52] <Arafangion> BangBang: However, the temperature varies alot.  The top gets *VERY* hot sometimes when charging battery, but the base seems reasonably cool.
[01:52] <Arafangion> BangBang: Top's metal, base is plastic.
[01:52] <Arafangion> BangBang: imho, that's better for the lap ;)
[01:53] <tooleh> orbin Image Loading failed for 01_a_1024x768.jpg REASON: Access Denied
[01:53] <BangBang> ic
[01:53] <tooleh> orgin Why would I get access denied on my own home folder? (location = /home/james/wp)
[01:53] <orbin> tooleh: did you do anything "dodgy" lately?
[01:54] <orbin> tooleh: cd /home, then ls -l
[01:54] <tooleh> dodgy? :S
[01:54] <Delicates> Arafangion: I'd say large
[01:54] <Noeve> Afternoon again... Nautilus crashes when I log in, and I get a 7914 error - cannot open display - when I try relaunching in terminal... It's not on the forums. Does anyone have any ideas ?
[01:54] <tooleh> total 1
[01:54] <tooleh> drwxr-xr-x  22 james james 1000 2006-04-05 10:02 james
[01:55] <Arafangion> Delicates: Pardon?
[01:55] <tooleh> orbin: result ^
[01:55] <Delicates> Arafangion: I'd say large files
[01:55] <Arafangion> Delicates: How large?  And are they *all* going to be large?
[01:56] <orbin> tooleh: that looks ok
[01:56] <Arafangion> Delicates: btw, by "small", I mean "less than 4 or 8 K"
[01:56] <Delicates> Arafangion: yes they will be from a few MiB to a few GiB in size
[01:56] <orbin> tooleh: what about the img you're trying to open?
[01:56] <tooleh> cd james/wp
[01:57] <tooleh> ls -l
[01:57] <tooleh> oops
[01:57] <Arafangion> Delicates: If it's mostly from 1MB to 1GB, I'd probably stick with defaults.
[01:57] <tooleh> (realise IRC isn't a terminal prompt)
[01:57] <Arafangion> Delicates: If it's nearly always larger, I _might_ try usnig larger blocks.
[01:57] <tooleh> orbin: All the images are pink
[01:57] <tooleh> orbin: wait, no, some are missing
[01:58] <tooleh> orbin: actually thats just the console not scrolling up
[01:58] <tooleh> example:
[01:58] <tooleh> -r--------  1 root root   644406 2006-04-05 04:29 Chasm.jpg
[01:58] <Noeve> Afternoon again... Nautilus crashes when I log in, and I get a 7914 error - cannot open display - when I try relaunching in terminal... It's not on the forums. Does anyone have any ideas ?
[01:58] <orbin> tooleh: aha, it's owned by root
[01:59] <tooleh> orbin: I compied them over in a root terminal. Is this the reason?
[01:59] <orbin> tooleh: probably
[01:59] <tooleh> orbin: I'm really noob at chmodding
[01:59] <tooleh> orbin: what should I type
[01:59] <orbin> tooleh: does sudo eog <filenam> open it?
[02:00] <tooleh> orbin indeed it does.
[02:00] <orbin> tooleh: i think you'd do: chown <usernae><username> *
[02:00] <Jemt> What the ... I have installed PHP 5 and MySQL 4.1, and enabled the 'mysql.so' extension i php.ini - but it dosn't show up in phpinfo(). Any suggestions?
[02:01] <orbin> tooleh: sorry, chown <user>:<user>  (anyway, reading the man page is probably better)
[02:02] <lucasvo> hi
[02:02] <lucasvo> I have a problem with my wlan
[02:02] <tooleh> orbin: Am doing. Should I do it recursive on my entire home thing
[02:02] <lucasvo> 'ETH1' is not a valid device ID
[02:02] <lucasvo> eth1      IEEE 802.11b/g  ESSID:"WLAN-45"  Nickname:"Broadcom 4318"
[02:02] <orbin> tooleh: only the stuff you copied over w/ root would be more appropriate i would think
[02:03] <lucasvo> I installed the windows drivers for bcmwl5
[02:03] <BangBang> lucasvo what is iwconfig output show ?
[02:03] <r_kinder> lucasvo: what command causes this error message?
[02:03] <lucasvo> http://pastebin.com/641825
[02:04] <lucasvo> r_kinder: root@frederic:/home/lucasvo# ndiswrapper -d eth1 bcmwl5
[02:04] <tooleh> orbin: Ok then, thanks for the help. Any idea how to get aac/mp4 support?
[02:04] <orbin> Noeve: is this a default install?
[02:04] <dominic_> hi people
[02:04] <orbin> tooleh: bmp and xmms seem to have packages for those
[02:05] <dominic_> i browse the mtv.com site
[02:05] <dominic_> then i lick listen radio
[02:05] <dominic_> and nothings happen why
[02:05] <orbin> dominic_: what does it taste like?
[02:05] <dominic_> i complete installed jre1.4
[02:06] <dominic_> is their a way i can play it
[02:07] <dominic_> i installed jre1.4 so i can play bookworm in yahoo
[02:07] <weii> exit
[02:07] <orbin> dominic_: do you have a media plugin for firefox installed?
[02:07] <dominic_> but in mtv.com
[02:07] <dominic_> yes
[02:07] <dominic_> mozilla
[02:07] <orbin> mozilla-mplayer?
[02:09] <dominic_> mozilla-plugin-vlc
[02:09] <Taku42> Hello
[02:09] <orbital_fox> hallo
[02:09] <orbital_fox> isnt java runtime enviroment a universal package?
[02:09] <indypende> hi all!
[02:10] <Taku42> Having a problem with the Kbuntu install CD on an old computer, after it loads the kernel the computer freezes; same thing happens with Knoppix
[02:10] <indypende> i have some problem starting the Network Manager applet on Dapper!
[02:10] <tooleh> when installing tango items, is gnome configured to use usr or opt?
[02:10] <indypende> someone having the nm-applet working on dapper?
[02:10] <orbin> orbital_fox: To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[02:11] <orbin> Taku42: how old?
[02:11] <Taku42> 350mhz P2, nv Riva TNT, and some Intel chipset
[02:11] <Taku42> I can boot to the Frodo edition of Slax with it though
[02:13] <orbital_fox> orbin, thanks
[02:13] <orbin> Taku42: maybe try the server install then grab kubntu-desktop later if you wish to use kde.  something more lightweight might be better tho
[02:14] <Taku42> Well, it locks up right after loading the kernel from the install cd, so I don't think using the server install would help
[02:15] <orbin> Taku42: you don't even get to the boot: prompt?
[02:15] <Taku42> I get there with ISOLINUX, but immediately after pressing enter is when it freezes (after loading kernel image stuff)
[02:16] <Taku42> I've played around with some options, but it hasn't helped yet
[02:16] <orbin> Taku42: have you searched the forum?
[02:17] <graveson> how can i start a process with a low priority. LAME is killing my CPU
[02:17] <Taku42> Not yet, I'm also not very good at searching
[02:17] <ben_underscore> graveson, use nice
[02:18] <speg> When i use something like midnightcommander from a shell , all the chars responsible for frames, borders etc are wrong..  can someone tell me how to change "keymap" or whatever is reponsible for this ?
[02:20] <orbin> Taku42: dunno, but i'd try the server option.  someone had success w/ that when the default install kept failing
[02:20] <duck> where do I put a script, so I can run it no matter in what dir I am?
[02:20] <dominic_> oo great in readioblogclub.com i can play music
[02:20] <dominic_> yes its true i missing the media plugin
[02:20] <Frogzoo> duck: /usr/local/bin
[02:20] <dominic_> but nothing happens in mtv.com
[02:23] <Taku42> Nope, same results; loads kernel, then the root image, says "Ready." and now it has nothing but a blinking _ at top left
[02:23] <duck> Frogzoo, thanks, but.. how do I run it now? :/
[02:24] <Taku42> But Ctrl+alt+del works
[02:25] <r_kinder> duck, do you have /usr/local/bin in your path? (echo $PATH)
[02:25] <Taku42> Just tried the "linux vga=791" at boot, and it simply gives me a completely black screen
[02:25] <Siph0n> if I have my usb bluetooth adapter plugged into my computer, and then do hcitool scan and get "Device is not available: No such device", what could be wrong?
[02:25] <tooleh> any ideas how to get Rythmbox to output sound to rear channels?
[02:25] <duck> I do
[02:25] <orbin> Taku42: that just changes the res.  not much help if something's wrong w/ the install process itself
[02:26] <r_kinder> duck, is the script executable?
[02:26] <Taku42> I had also tried failsafe on a Knoppix CD with no success either
[02:26] <ben_underscore> duck, you can either put the file into a directory in your $PATH, or you can add the directory that the file is in to your $PATH
[02:26] <duck> it's a .sh, it ran fine when I was in it's original dir and I did ./bla.sh
[02:26] <healot> "hciconfig" first, Siph0n ?
[02:26] <duck> but now I don't really know how to run it now it's in /usr/local/bin
[02:27] <ben_underscore> duck, just type its name
[02:27] <mbw> tach
[02:27] <r_kinder> duck, you should be able to just do blah.sh
[02:27] <duck> ah yes, forgot the .sh
[02:27] <Frogzoo> duck: just bla.sh - bash will find any executables in the directories listed in $PATH
[02:28] <Jemt> I have installed PHP 5 and MySQL 4.1, and enabled the 'mysql.so' extension i php.ini - but it dosn't show up in phpinfo(). Any suggestions?
[02:28] <Siph0n> healot, thanx , didnt do that :) i try that
[02:28] <duck> it works fine now
[02:29] <duck> thank you all :)
[02:29] <tooleh> any ideas how to get Rythmbox to output sound to rear channels?
[02:29] <ccooke> Jemt: Reloaded apache?
[02:29] <Jemt> ccooke: Tryed that, no luck
[02:29] <Jemt> But wait, might have a clue
[02:29] <Siph0n> healot, should hciconfig bring anything up, it just goes to the next line in the terminal?
[02:31] <Siph0n> could my usb bluetooth device not be working?
[02:31] <Firefox_7> instruction Google Adsense-->  http://planet.nana.co.il/hartk2003/en.htm                 Download free Firefox -->  http://planet.nana.co.il/hartk2003/Firefox.htm
[02:32] <ubuntu> eloo
[02:32] <healot> yes, should list any detected Bluetooth HC device
[02:32] <ubuntu> kto pogada
[02:33] <Noeve> Afternoon again... Nautilus crashes when I log in, and I get a 7914 error - cannot open display - when I try relaunching in terminal... It's not on the forums. Does anyone have any ideas ?
[02:34] <tooleh> any ideas how to get Rythmbox to output sound to rear channels?
[02:34] <tooleh> eedge: A fellow ntl user, I see.
[02:34] <healot> Noeve, try to start GNOME is failsafe mode...
[02:34] <eedge> How did you note I was a NTL user instantly? heh
[02:35] <Siph0n> lol i took it from my teacher, i think he has another one tho... ill switch em today :)
[02:35] <healot> the hostname, eedge
[02:35] <Noeve> Healot,done.
[02:35] <Noeve> No go.
[02:35] <tooleh> eedge: Hostname is much like mine :)
[02:35] <tooleh> eedge: but you're from watford, I presume.
[02:35] <tooleh> eedge: Or somwehre near it?
[02:36] <healot> hum... Noeve, here is pretty tricky, try to delete "~/.nautilus" folder... to clean up the BAD nautilus settings
[02:36] <eedge> yeah, watford indeed.
[02:36] <r_kinder> Noeve, does the ~/.xsession-errors give any useful information?
[02:36] <tooleh> eedge :)
[02:36] <Noeve> Healot, where is that folder ?
[02:36] <healot> "~/.nautilus" the exact folder
[02:37] <Noeve> R_Kinder, I've just been given error 7914, Gtk-WARNING **: Cannot open display.
[02:37] <xfcefreak> Noeve: try using gksudo
[02:37] <r_kinder> Noeve, can you create another user account on the box and try logging in with that account?
[02:38] <Noeve> R_Kinder, unfortunately I'm too much of a newb to manage that :P
[02:38] <Noeve> xfcefreak, could you elaborate please ?
[02:38] <Sulle-> i got linux on my pc for the first time <3
[02:39] <xfcefreak> Noeve: are you trying to open that file for editing?
[02:39] <Noeve> xfcefreak, my Nautilus won't load on login.
[02:39] <Sulle-> where can i get linux skins... i mean i want to change the apperance virsualy.
[02:40] <lemino> I have some problems with my ATI-card, anyone?
[02:40] <Sulle-> sry for my bad english but i am trying my best.
[02:40] <healot> !theme
[02:40] <lemino> Sulle-, you can chame the theme if that's what you meen?
[02:40] <Sulle-> !theme
[02:40] <healot> fast learner :)
[02:41] <Sulle-> no i dont mea that.
[02:41] <healot> trying to setup the ATi 3D?
[02:41] <lemino> Sulle-, aha...
[02:41] <Sulle-> i mean like changing the look of my desktop and so on.
[02:41] <healot> wallpaper?
[02:41] <lemino> healot, well, no. I got the 3D working but i can't get the brightness right.
[02:41] <healot> oh
[02:41] <lemino> healot, kinda strange...
[02:41] <healot> lemino, run the fglrx control panel
[02:42] <Sulle-> nope, not that. like the "start menu" and the terminal and stuff
[02:42] <tooleh> sulle - try gnome looks
[02:42] <r_kinder> Noeve, adding a new user is simple - type: sudo adduser newusername and the prompts will guide you through what to do.
[02:42] <lemino> healot, the command "fireglxcontrolpanel"?
[02:42] <Noeve> R_Kinder, my thanks, I'll try that :)
[02:42] <tooleh> Sulle- I'd link you but my pc is spazzing and slowed :X
[02:42] <healot> "fireglcontrolpanel" >> the one
[02:43] <Noeve> R_Kinder, any ideas as to what could be causing the problem ?
[02:43] <Sulle-> tooleh, it wont take long time to give me a url?  or?
[02:43] <lemino> healot, aha, yeah... but I can't adjust brightness in there. can I?
[02:43] <Sulle-> and ho do i make my icons at my desktop smaler?
[02:43] <Sulle-> "how"
[02:43] <Siph0n> make your resolution higher? lol
[02:43] <r_kinder> Noeve, not really, but if things work with a different account, then it looks like the account you are currently using could have some corrupted config.
[02:43] <tooleh> sulle- gnome-look.org/
[02:44] <healot> do you prefer, KGamma, instead?
[02:44] <Sulle-> Siph0n,  it is at 1024*768 and it is still huge
[02:44] <jmp_me> resulution, is like dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:44] <lemino> healot, is it normal that the controlpanel doesn't know my chiptype?
[02:44] <Sulle-> i mean the icons at the desktop
[02:44] <Noeve> R_Kinder, thanks. I'll bug you one last time :P How could I install KDE and set it as default using the terminal ?
[02:44] <lemino> healot, i haven't tried kgamma. will try now, wait.
[02:45] <r_kinder> Noeve, I don't know the answer to that, but my suggestion would be to install 'kubuntu' rather than plain 'ubuntu' - it uses KDE by default.
[02:45] <lemino> healot, how do I install it? I can't find it in synaptic?
[02:45] <healot> lemino, it's for KDE though, but you CAN install even without installing the whole KDE :)
[02:45] <eedge> tooleh, hersham?
[02:45] <eedge> lol
[02:46] <healot> hehe, lemino, take a real good look at the next line
[02:46] <healot> !repos
[02:46] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[02:46] <Siph0n> Sulle-, sorry, my resolution answer was like a joke
[02:46] <r_kinder> Noeve, provided you want KDE rather than Gnome as your desktop of course :)
[02:46] <lemino> healot, I don't get it.
[02:46] <orbin> where is /usr/share/dict/words supposed to point to?
[02:46] <Noeve> R_Kinder, I've just been browsing the forums, and apparently Nautilus hasn't just been a bitch to me, and I've used KDE before, so I want to continue if this doesn't work.
[02:47] <healot> lemino, nnvm
[02:47] <tooleh> eedge Yeees?
[02:47] <r_kinder> Noeve, what version of Ubuntu are you running?
[02:47] <eedge> good stuff.
[02:47] <tooleh> eedge: What is hersham?
[02:48] <Noeve> R_Kinder, running Breezy.
[02:48] <healot> must be Dapper, I guess?
[02:48] <lemino> healot, Oookkkeyyy... still nothing...
[02:48] <r_kinder> Noeve, ok - just checking you're on the stable release.
[02:48] <lemino> healot, no, i'm on breezy.
[02:49] <Titan> not sure about the syntax on how to change permissions using chmod, can someone elighten me. For instance I want to change the permission on the folder /home/titan/WoW/warcraft/Data
[02:49] <Crystal> i am new in linux
[02:49] <Crystal> is there any one to help me 4 somethings
[02:49] <Crystal> _
[02:49] <Orion-EU> Hi
[02:49] <Celeste> hi
[02:49] <Crystal> hi
[02:49] <Celeste> where can I find my digital camera please?
[02:49] <Celeste> I cannot locate the device
[02:50] <healot> lemino, you wonder why kgamma isn't in your current repos list?
[02:50] <walden> hello all
[02:51] <dasenjo> Hi, I have problems with acpi in breezy: thermal and freq scaling worked on hoary .. but not now .. can you help me?
[02:51] <tooleh> aggh....why does it regen the font cache after EVERY DAMN FONT PACKAGE
[02:51] <Titan> not sure about the syntax on how to change permissions using chmod, can someone elighten me. For instance I want to change the permission on the folder /home/titan/WoW/warcraft/Data I have the part about chmod /directory/of/folders -r but how do I set what I want them to be?
[02:51] <walden> what do you want them to be?
[02:52] <lemino> yea
[02:52] <healot> Titan, "man rm" wILL enlighten you
[02:52] <Titan> I want it to be so I can read execute and change, anyone to have them
[02:52] <walden> Titan: that would be 777
[02:53] <Titan> walden but where do I do that at?
[02:53] <Sulle-> can someone plz pm me about how to make my icons smaler?, my resolution is on 1024*764 now. plz pm
[02:53] <tooleh> So now my PC speed is raped :) As I have about 40 "THeme Preferences" Windows open and I'm downloadin gabout 20 fonts, after each of which, the font cache refreshes. SHIT.
[02:53] <walden> chmod -r 777 /home/tital/WoW/warcraft/Data
[02:53] <Titan> Sulle- right click on the icon and click stretch
[02:54] <walden> well, it might be -R, instaead of -r
[02:54] <Titan> walden, Thank you! :)
[02:54] <healot> world readable, haven't see that much :)
[02:54] <Sulle-> well, still the text is big and i feel everything is so big
[02:54] <walden> i know. it might be enough to make your files 755
[02:54] <lemino> healot, so, why can't I install it?
[02:54] <babo_> #join webdev
[02:54] <tooleh> sulle-: change your fontsize to 9, and use a font like FreeSans
[02:55] <tooleh> sulle-: it is in system>preferences>fonts
[02:55] <MenZa> I'm having problems with my Dapper install; I can't connect to the internet. All cables are in place - and it worked the other night. I havne't touched anything - any ideas?
[02:55] <healot> lemino, easy, because you haven't pay (attention) :)
[02:55] <tooleh> sulle-: made my system feel a lot better :)
[02:55] <erez> !pastebin
[02:55] <walden> i use verdana size 8
[02:55] <ubotu> I heard pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[02:55] <tooleh> webboard breaks for me :S
[02:55] <lemino> healot, ok, so what do I do?
[02:55] <healot> MenZa, you manually setup your interfaces using ifconfig right?
[02:56] <healot> ok, lemino don't miss the next line
[02:56] <healot> !repos
[02:56] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[02:56] <Titan> walden: It worked, Thanks again.
[02:56] <Sulle-> tooleh, thnx man. :D *its not easy to be new in linux*
[02:56] <walden> MenZa: system>administration>networking  ..  check the settings for your interface
[02:56] <MenZa> healot: No. It was setup automatically.
[02:57] <lemino> healot, I didn't, but what do i do with it?
[02:57] <Sulle-> but i am glad i am on the right side now... finaly free from the darkside.
[02:57] <xfcefreak> tooleh: add it to your launcher bar and use it from there it doesnt work from menus
[02:57] <tooleh> Sulle-: tell me about it - sometimes it feels so hard to the most simple of things.
[02:57] <walden> :(
[02:57] <asror> Hello Dear All !
[02:57] <Sulle-> i know.
[02:57] <healot> do you know why kgamma and many other packages is not on your current list? lemino
[02:57] <walden> hello, asror
[02:57] <richard> where can i find grub.conf?
[02:57] <tooleh> xfcefreak: Ok it says starting webboard...then it just dies :S
[02:57] <apokryphos> richard: locate grub.conf ;-)
[02:57] <healot> richard, there isn't any
[02:58] <styx2005> does dapper support a pvr 150 tv card?
[02:58] <walden> richard: umm, what do you want to do?
[02:58] <healot> its "/boot/grub/menu.lst" for ubuntu
[02:58] <apokryphos> menu1.ist, I presume
[02:58] <apokryphos> geh, or that, even
[02:58] <walden> ah.
[02:58] <lemino> healot, no I don't, does it have something to do with multiverse and universe?
[02:58] <asror> i have problems with gd lib and fft file true type fonts
[02:59] <xfcefreak> tooleh: dont use it from menus add it to your icon bar at top of gnome and use it fromt here. right click upper gnome bar near the icons and add webboard to it and copy something click the icon it it shows up in there
[02:59] <asror> how enable ttf and gd lib ?
[02:59] <richard> apokryphos, healot, walden: how can i configure my double booting?
[02:59] <xfcefreak> !ttf
[02:59] <ubotu> xfcefreak: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:59] <healot> something with that lemino :)
[02:59] <xfcefreak> ttf is fonts isnt it?
[02:59] <konrads> Hello. How do I set up a nice skin for skype? It also doesn' t display UTF chars
[02:59] <asror> xfcefreak: Yes
[02:59] <healot> !dualboot
[02:59] <ubotu> for wintel https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo :for the Mac https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[02:59] <xfcefreak> !fonts
[02:59] <ubotu> fonts is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FontInstallHowto
[03:00] <tooleh> xfcefreak: Awesome - before I was dragging it from menu->bar, but now I added it by right clicking and it works :)
[03:00] <konrads> !skype
[03:00] <ubotu> rumour has it, skype is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/
[03:00] <lemino> healot, ok, I'll get to that :) but do you think it will help? I'm not just intrested in the gamma, but also the brightness and contrast.
[03:00] <asror> xfcefreak: fonts in PHP
[03:00] <healot> lemino, kgamma will do that all for you...
[03:01] <healot> lemino, or you can do it the hard way by manually editing you xorg.conf file :)
[03:01] <lemino> aha, thanks.
[03:01] <lemino> healot, can I? in what section do I specify that?
[03:02] <healot> lemino, "man X" will tell you the detail of X server configuration
[03:03] <lemino> healot, thanks I'll check it out. (interesting reading :)
[03:03] <asror> !xfcefreak
[03:03] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, asror
[03:04] <healot> and "man xorg.conf" for specific details on configuring you X server
[03:04] <asror> :)
[03:04] <xfcefreak> ;)
[03:04] <xfcefreak> the /whois command works better for that ;)
[03:04] <walden> meh. i cant connect to DALnet.. says IP banned
[03:04] <Mortuis> Does Ubuntu load with Xfree86 by default?
[03:04] <xfcefreak> walden: sounds like you did something to make someone mad
[03:05] <walden> it loads with xorg.. which is a x server like xfree86
[03:05] <healot> lemino, generally you can edit the 'Section "Monitor"'
[03:05] <Mortuis> walden: thanks
[03:05] <walden> xfcefreak: well, not me! most of my friends are there.. i just go and relax there.
[03:05] <walden> :\
[03:06] <walden> is it safe to download and install the new kernel 2.4.15-20 via apt-get?
[03:06] <healot> just add "Gamma <value>" or "Gamma <r> <g> <b>" :)
[03:06] <Sulle-> ok, now i have downloaded a tar.gz file. and when i extract that i got more files ... how to make it my theme ?
[03:06] <Sulle-> i am not skilled at all in this
[03:07] <walden> Sulle-: you dont extract it.. you goto system > preferences > theme
[03:07] <lemino> healot, Ok, but I don't know what to put in there. The man-page for X didn't give much on contrast and brightness.
[03:07] <walden> Sulle-: click on install theme, and then browse to the tgz file. it handles the stuff.
[03:07] <lemino> healot, Only colors.
[03:07] <walden> i installed a few themes, but got back to the default.
[03:07] <asror> !gd-php5
[03:07] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, asror
[03:08] <Sulle-> lol, thank you so much.
[03:08] <Sulle-> now i get it :)
[03:08] <healot> lemino, by controlling gamma value, it will control the brightness and contrast
[03:08] <Titan> installed Lilo boot loader, how do I set it so I can boot back into windoze?
[03:08] <walden> what was wrong with grub?  o.O
[03:08] <lemino> healot, How do you meen?
[03:08] <walden> !lilo
[03:08] <ubotu> walden: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:09] <walden> okie.
[03:09] <Titan> installed Lilo boot loader, how do I set it so I can boot back into windoze?
[03:09] <healot> Lilo and Stitch :)
[03:10] <walden> Titan: you put stuff into /etc/lilo.conf.. but i dunno what..
[03:10] <asror> i have index.php file, i create this site in windows i have all LAMP appication in Windows, soon i install Ubuntu with same version of LAMP, question why my gd and ttf file not work ? maybe i did something wrong ?
[03:10] <Titan> walden: kay, thanks
[03:11] <healot> Titan, "man lilo.conf" on how to configure lilo, next run "lilo" again after editing "lilo.conf"
[03:12] <walden> Titan: http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-dboot.html  there's an example there
[03:12] <Titan> healot: cool, thnaks
[03:12] <asror> i have index.php file, i create this site in windows i have all LAMP appication in Windows, soon i install Ubuntu with same version of LAMP, question why my gd and ttf file not work ? maybe i did something wrong ?
[03:12] <lemino> healot, sorry, I dropped out there. What where you saying about the gamma?
[03:12] <ubuntu_rules> hello again...
[03:13] <jenni> moi
[03:13] <healot> gamma controls your brightness and your contrast... change the gamma value, changes your contrast and brightness
[03:13] <walden> :( my time zone is selected as india, yet it shows GMT
[03:13] <jenni> mit kuuuluuu
[03:13] <jenni> eik tl oo yht finland
[03:14] <vge> ohan tll
[03:14] <lemino> healot, Ok, so what you're saying is that they can't be controlled separately or what?
[03:14] <vge> but english is the name of the game
[03:14] <walden> how do you do the two dots above the a?
[03:14] <vge> scandinavian keyboard
[03:14] <walden> :S
[03:14] <walden> i want one too.
[03:15] <jmp_me> change locales? :D
[03:15] <vge>  those are the special keys :)
[03:15] <lemino> healot, When I was running windows, there was an ATI-tool that could edit the settings for gamma, contrast and brightness separately.
[03:15] <jmp_me> ye
[03:15] <healot>  --> like this?
[03:15] <jmp_me> healot: you cheated
[03:15] <walden> yeah.
[03:15] <walden> cant i make them with my normal keyboard?
[03:15] <healot> lemino, unfortunately the way is different in Linux
[03:15] <walden> like type special characters?
[03:16] <Titan> is it easy to change from my lilo boot loader to grub?
[03:16] <healot>  - > or even this? for you bokmal/norsk users out there :)
[03:16] <jmp_me> dkpg-reconfigure locales to SV.UTF-8 walden
[03:16] <lemino> healot, ok, so what do I do?
[03:16] <walden> jmg: that will change it permanently.. i just want to use that from time to time
[03:16] <IdleOne> walden, check out the character map in Applications > Accessories
[03:17] <healot> well, you can only change the gamma, try to play around
[03:17] <walden> Titan: i guess. apt-get remove lilo, and apt-get install grub, or something. though not sure.
[03:17] <walden> Titan: there is a grub-install thing too.
[03:17] <walden> IdleOne: thanks :D
[03:17] <MasterC> I've connected to machines with a cross-over (network) cable, how can I establisg a network connection between them?
[03:17] <MasterC> (both linux)
[03:17] <walden> oh boy. thanks, IdleOne .. good stuff
[03:17] <IdleOne> walden, np
[03:18] <Titan> walden: ya, I just hope that grub auto configures instead of me having to do it all manually like I do with lilo
[03:18] <lemino> healot, Ok. There is also som kind of program called fglrx_gamma but it wount run. > fglrx_xgamma: error while loading shared libraries: libfglrx_gamma.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[03:18] <MasterC> needs one of the PCs a dhcp server?
[03:18] <healot> MasterC, just set the IP for both interfaces... prolly in the with network mask
[03:18] <walden> Titan: how will it autoconfigure? it wont.
[03:18] <IdleOne> !tell Titan about grub
[03:18] <healot> lemino, it's the ATi fglrx bug
[03:18] <walden> i dont think so...
[03:18] <healot> just use the "fireglcontrol", lemino
[03:18] <tooleh> Is there any way I can just have one bar thing?
[03:18] <walden> believe in stupidity?
[03:19] <healot> wait, it isn't a bug... that tool is actually the backend of "fireglcontrol" :)
[03:19] <lemino> healot, Ok. but is there any way of making the gamma setting more exactly? the slider isn't very accurate.
[03:19] <mcmillen> i'm considering updating from breezy -> dapper today... is there anything special i should know? i was planning on just changing breezy->dapper in sources.list and doing apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:19] <healot> lemino, try to move em with keyboard keys
[03:20] <Titan> if I reboot right after removing lilo and installing grub without configureing it, will I not be able to boot back into linux?
[03:20] <healot> click on the slider, and move the "left" or :right: keys to increase/decrease the value
[03:20] <walden> Titan: it should boot to linux i think.
[03:20] <vge> keep your install cd ready :)
[03:21] <walden> Titan: but maybe your windows wont work.
[03:21] <Titan> walden: cool thanks
[03:21] <chmod775> hi folks is there any software in ubuntu which connects to vpn
[03:21] <chmod775> I mean a vpn client
[03:21] <chmod775> ?
[03:21] <Titan> walden: that should not be a problem considering it does not work right now anyhow
[03:21] <walden> Titan: hehe
[03:21] <vge> do i need kernel 2.6.16 to patch to 2.6.17-rc1? I mean i cant go from 2.6.16.1 to 2.6.17-rc1?
[03:22] <walden> no clue..
[03:22] <healot> vge, depends on your need
[03:22] <healot> does your hardware requires the new kernel patch etc.?
[03:22] <tooleh> Anyone got any idea why there are some apps that dont have theme applied to them? (Package manager, for example)?
[03:22] <Titan> k, I will be back in a minute I am sure
[03:22] <vge> healot: yes it does
[03:22] <healot> or just curious about the patch?
[03:22] <chmod775> vpn?
[03:23] <healot> then, patch it...?
[03:23] <vge> but can i go from 2.6.16.1 to 2.6.17-rc1? gives allot of errors? some dood sayd that i need a 2.6.16 version?
[03:23] <ariel> hey, where can i read the changelog of the last ubuntu kernel package?
[03:23] <ariel> the 2.6.15-20
[03:24] <fromvega> Hello, I have downloaded the drivers of my Lexmark E230 printer, but it's a .deb file. How do I install these drivers? Thank you
[03:24] <walden> fromvega: sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[03:24] <tbaa> dpkg -i file.deb
[03:24] <healot> you can read it at packages.ubuntu.com or CHANGELOG that come with the kernel package
[03:24] <ariel> fromvega, dpkg -i <deb file>
[03:24] <ariel> healot, thx
[03:25] <walden> is there a package that can help me find out which is the fastest ubuntu mirror for me?
[03:25] <da-borg> hi, can anyone point me in the direction of the correct kernel parameters for loading ubuntu using grub. I had to bypass the default installations grub install as i already have gentoo installed and i manually do the grub stuff.
[03:25] <Sulle-> ok, finaly done modding the look of my linux, now it was much more beutifull to look at :-)
[03:26] <healot> vge, read about the package, does that rc1 patch is for 2.6.16? or 2.6.16.1?
[03:26] <ubuntu_rules> !tell walden about install
[03:26] <walden> da-borg: kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-19-386 root=/dev/hda7 ro quiet splash
[03:26] <Sulle-> !tell sulle- about install
[03:26] <da-borg> walden: thanks
[03:26] <walden> Sulle-: which theme?can you send it to me?
[03:26] <vge> healot: ill look, thnx
[03:28] <healot> btw, it's for 2.6.16
[03:28] <vge> healot: actually, where i get this info? ChangeLog-2.6.17-rc1?
[03:28] <healot> not for the latest stable 2.6.16.1
[03:28] <lemino> healot, it doesn't seem to do the trick for me. gonna check a forum. thanks anyway!
[03:28] <healot> http://www.kernel.org/git/?p=linux%2Fkernel%2Fgit%2Ftorvalds%2Flinux-2.6.git;a=summary
[03:28] <josip> how do I add a user to postgresql ? It seems that both postgres-server and -client packages do not come with the `postgres' tool
[03:29] <healot> look at the incremental "tags"
[03:29] <Titan> anyone here play WoW on linux using wine?
[03:30] <healot> http://kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/testing/ChangeLog-2.6.17-rc1 >> vge... a tip for kernel tester, kernel.org :)
[03:30] <richard> how can i configure lilo?
[03:30] <walden> does ubuntu have a 2.6.16 kernel which is stable on kernel.org?
[03:30] <vge> kernel.org has been my second home past the two days :P
[03:30] <walden> what's wrong with your hardware, vge?
[03:31] <Sulle-> Titan, i have read about wow on wine, u need a special "patch" for that,
[03:31] <Sulle-> then it will run smootly
[03:31] <walden> there is something called "cedega" wine which allows you to play windows games..
[03:31] <walden> check their website if they support WoW
[03:31] <vge> walden: basically "bcm43xx included since 2.6.16-git18"
[03:31] <Sulle-> walden, but that costs.
[03:31] <walden> vge: ok.
[03:31] <Sulle-> wine is free :)
[03:32] <walden> Sulle-: ok. good reason then :)
[03:32] <Sulle-> :-) yep
[03:33] <Sulle-> it is kinda REALY diffrent from windows to linux. but i dont think here is so much bugs as in windows. and i am thinking about migrating to linux at home to.
[03:33] <gnomefreak> Sulle-: only down fall is i dont think wine will run everything that cedega will
[03:33] <gnomefreak> im sure there are more downfalls but i dont know them ;)
[03:33] <Sulle-> gnomefreak, that might be true.. i just have read about it today , and i have never tested WINE, or cedega.
[03:33] <Sulle-> just got ubuntu today
[03:34] <richard> how can i configure lilo?
[03:34] <gnomefreak> Sulle-: welcome to ubuntu ;)
[03:34] <Sulle-> Thnx : )
[03:34] <gnomefreak> yw
[03:34] <walden> can cedega run microsoft office as well?
[03:34] <IdleOne> whats a good wysiwyg html editor?
[03:34] <deefzi> frontpage express!
[03:34] <gnomefreak> IdleOne: nvu
[03:34] <walden> macromedia dreamweaver
[03:34] <deefzi> all hail the frontpage express reigning the market!
[03:35] <walden> namaste_: namaste.
[03:35] <tooleh> frontpage express is hard-core
[03:35] <IdleOne> gnomefreak, :)
[03:35] <deefzi> walden, kwai
[03:35] <gnomefreak> ;) IdleOne go with bluefish or nvu they are both great
[03:35] <Sulle-> well, now that i finaly got linux on my pc. i have no idea what to install on it to make it more like my old pc :P hehehe
[03:36] <chris> anyone good at appache?
[03:36] <gnomefreak> !apache
[03:36] <ubotu> I guess apache is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[03:36] <IdleOne> gnomefreak, will try them both . thanks
[03:36] <chris> i want to make a login
[03:36] <gnomefreak> anytime ;)
[03:36] <gnomefreak> chris: the above link should help you out there
[03:37] <chris> gnomefreak i set it up my ftp and everything just need a login
[03:37] <vge> Sulle-: well my kubuntu looks allmost identically as my windows, just better usablity :P
[03:37] <tooleh> How do I get sound on my rear speakers?
[03:38] <walden> does bluetooth file transfer between phones to laptop work in ubuntu? what packages would i need?
[03:38] <tristanmike> tooleh: I had to do a "sudo alsamixer" and raise the levels on "Wave Surround"
[03:39] <Sulle-> what is a splash screen.
[03:39] <gnomefreak> Sulle-: the lil screen that loads nautilus and stuff after you log in
[03:39] <walden> Sulle-: the thing that shows after you login and before the desktop
[03:39] <walden> where it says "loading" etc
[03:39] <Sulle-> ohh. and how do i add a new one?.
[03:40] <Sulle-> when i pressed download on a splash screen it just gave me a pic.
[03:40] <Answer> Question: I completely removed gnome-panel and gnome-dbg and reinstalled and rebooted, but I do not see the panel or the process dock.  How can I get them back?
[03:40] <serprime> hi.. is there a bash-command to shutdown the pc WITHOUT beeing root?
[03:40] <gnomefreak> install ganome-art will give you that there is also splash-something cant remember it
[03:40] <Answer> serprime: halt
[03:40] <walden> Sulle-: you goto system > preference > splash screen > install
[03:40] <serprime> thx
[03:41] <Sulle-> walden, ur the man today :-)
[03:41] <Sulle-> brb
[03:41] <Answer> serprime: try "sudo halt" without being superuser
[03:41] <gnomefreak> walden: its installed by default now?
[03:41] <serprime> and is it possible without sudo.. i mean as a normal user
[03:41] <walden> gnomefreak: what is?
[03:41] <walden> gnomefreak: i have it..
[03:42] <gnomefreak> the splash screen menu item?
[03:42] <walden> but i've installed/upgraded a lot of things, so wouldn't know :)
[03:42] <Answer> serprime: you would have to change some permissions
[03:42] <gnomefreak> i have it cause i installed it ;)
[03:42] <walden> hey Dr_Willis
[03:42] <Titan> Sulle- I have installed the patch, it worked fine before, I think it downloaded a patch this moring and I have not been able to get in since
[03:42] <Dr_Willis> howdy
[03:42] <Sulle-> Titan, :S that sux.
[03:42] <Sulle-> walden, there is now splash under system etc
[03:43] <tooleh> tristanmike: Ok and what music players can mix/mirror the front channels to the rear?
[03:43] <gnomefreak> Sulle-: you have to install it
[03:43] <Sulle-> oh.
[03:43] <gnomefreak> Sulle-: install gnome-art it gives you all the graphical config items like gdm and splash screen and so on
[03:44] <Sulle-> gnomefreak, where can i find that...
[03:44] <Sulle-> or maybe i should try google.com ? :P
[03:44] <gnomefreak> Sulle-: sudo apt-get install gnome-art
[03:44] <gnomefreak> !info gnome-art
[03:44] <ubotu> gnome-art: (install GNOME themes from art.gnome.org), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.2-1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 26 kB, Installed size: 200 kB
[03:44] <gnomefreak> Sulle-: its in the universe repo so make sure you have it enabled
[03:44] <walden> gnomefreak: i am running dapper.. maybe it was there by default.. i dont remember..
[03:45] <Krikey> how can I configure my xorg.conf to support two monitors running on two graphics cards?
[03:45] <Sulle-> gnomefreak,  thnx man. c u guys l8tr. i am finnished at work now so i have to continue when i get back home.
[03:45] <Sulle-> c u
[03:45] <gnomefreak> walden: i think i had to install it on dapper but i dont remember
[03:45] <walden> ok
[03:46] <walden> ok. tne new kernel is installed, time for rebooting
[03:47] <tooleh> What is the latest linux kernel, and should I get it?
[03:47] <gnomefreak> tooleh: latest stable ubuntu kernel is 2.6.12
[03:48] <tooleh> gnomefreak How do I find my version?
[03:48] <gnomefreak> tooleh: uname -r
[03:48] <tooleh> gnomefreak I'm up to date :D
[03:49] <Titan> I am connected to a router using DHCP, how do I check to see what internal IP my router has given this computer?
[03:49] <IdleOne> gnomefreak, thanks dude! I already got a basic page made ;)
[03:49] <gnomefreak> ;)
[03:49] <tooleh> What plugins do I need to embed MP3s etc like quicktime does in windows?
[03:49] <Dr_Willis> !mp3
[03:49] <ubotu> I heard mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:49] <gnomefreak> tooleh: what was the output of that command?
[03:50] <gnomefreak> IdleOne: you like it? i havent played with it so far just used them to open html pages not sure how to use the wys.... option yet
[03:50] <MonsieurBon> hello
[03:50] <walden> cool. a kernel upgrade with apt-get was alright.. thought it would be a hairy affair
[03:50] <tooleh> 2.6.12-10-386
[03:50] <walden> MonsieurBon: hello
[03:50] <MonsieurBon> if i install fluxbox, will gnome keep all its settings?
[03:50] <IdleOne> gnomefreak, it's pretty much type and preview
[03:50] <Titan> I am connected to a router using DHCP, how do I check to see what internal IP my router has given this computer?
[03:50] <tooleh> shouldn't I like...recompile, so its optimized for my PC?
[03:50] <Delicates> question: anything I do with lvm/evms will tie up the HD to my system and stop me from moving it between PCs?
[03:50] <_jason> MonsieurBon: should
[03:50] <tooleh> just I have no idea how to do that.
[03:50] <tooleh> :] 
[03:50] <gnomefreak> oh ok
[03:51] <IdleOne> gnomefreak, some text formatting and add your pics and backgrounds with a click
[03:51] <gnomefreak> tooleh: yes that is the latest breezy kernel
[03:51] <walden> Titan: ifconfig -a
[03:51] <Titan> thanks again walden
[03:51] <tooleh> gnomefreak: Howcome its only i386? Wouldn't a i686 be better for my CPU (Athlon 2500xp)
[03:52] <chris> mysql works for ftp?
[03:52] <gnomefreak> tooleh: not sure i have low processor so was never concered about it before sorry
[03:52] <walden> mysql and ftp? how are they related?
[03:52] <chris> want to see ftp website i have?
[03:52] <tbaa> Why is it lagging trying to watch a DVD? I've installed my nvidia drivers
[03:53] <chris> i want to make a ftp login
[03:53] <_jason> tbaa: have you enabled dma on your drive?
[03:53] <walden> sorry, no clue.
[03:53] <walden> how do you enable dma, _jason ?
[03:53] <_jason> !dma
[03:53] <tristanmike> tooleh: sorry afk, are you still asking ?
[03:53] <vge> hmm, can i copy old config file from /boot then put it in /usr/src/linux and in that folder, run command "sudo make oldconfig"? so i dont have to start from empty?
[03:53] <jossver> hello
[03:53] <jossver> I'm having problems with the video card currently
[03:53] <_jason> !+dma
[03:53] <ubotu> methinks dma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing. A method of transferring data from one memory area to another without having to go through the central processing unit. It makes your hard disks run faster :-).  DMA from the ubuntu wiki guide https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA
[03:53] <walden> thanks
[03:54] <jossver> I followed... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI <-- this guide, but later it turned out I should've used... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia this guide
[03:54] <gnomefreak> ok time to get work done bbl
[03:54] <tbaa> jason the vobs are on the harddrive
[03:54] <walden> ok.dma on my disk is on somehow.
[03:55] <jossver> and now I can't remove xorg-driver-fglrx
[03:55] <_jason> if you are watcfhing a dvd you should enable dma on the dvd drive
[03:55] <funkenstein> hi all, just a quicky- I'm using dapper and want to have 2 users: "me" and "office" - I want "me" to have the xgl server working and I want "office" to be able to run xover office. The two aren't compatible. does anyone know how to make an extra session where gdm.conf-custom will be a different one?
[03:56] <_jason> tbaa: I don't know why yours would lag.  What are the system specs?
[03:57] <jossver> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11529
[03:57] <jossver> how to fix that?
[03:57] <tbaa> 1.4ghz
[03:57] <tbaa> nvidia gf 4 mx
[03:57] <jadams> sohow do I cat a file to my gnome clipboard?
[03:57] <firemaker103> can't even run firefox 1.5.0.1...
[03:58] <sipangzi> hi,
[03:58] <vge> OMG, it actaully patched :)
[03:59] <Dr_Willis> funkenstein,  could just use the console and 'startx' and have each user with a custom .xinitrc
[03:59] <Dr_Willis> but thats assuming you dont have to change the X  and Xxgl links/binaries. Hmmm...
[04:01] <toolehx> Wow, net died :S
[04:01] <toolehx> but anyway - nvidia drivers want to update the kernel
[04:01] <toolehx> what packages do I need?
[04:02] <jossver> I need to uninstall xorg-driver-fglrx, but it gives errors: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11529
[04:03] <jossver> I used the breezy-seveas repository to install the package, but now it won't uninstall
[04:03] <fromvega> Sorry, I was away and did not read the answer of my question (if there was any).  So, I'll ask it again:    I have downloaded the drivers of my Lexmark E230 printer, but it's a .deb file. How do I install these drivers? Thank you
[04:03] <jossver> fromvega: dpkg -i filename.deb
[04:03] <erimar77> hi guys/gals!
[04:04] <funkenstein> Dr_Willis, well, right now I have to know in advance if I'll be using the office account and edit out the lines in gdm.conf-custom that have to do with compiz. I know I read somewhere something that has to do with xsession, but I don't remember where... :( I want to demo xgl to some of my windows mates- as soon as I can get BF2 to run on linux stable, they can't say no anymore :) (no, cedega doesn't run it well enough...
[04:04] <fromvega> jossver: this command will install the package?
[04:04] <jossver> fromvega: yes
[04:04] <toolehx> How on earth...if anyone can get BF2 working on linux
[04:04] <fromvega> jossver: tks
[04:04] <toolehx> PLEASE let me know!
[04:04] <seraphire> Hi. How do you tell what version of the linux kernel you're running?
[04:04] <walden> seraphim: uname -a
[04:04] <seraphire> walden: thank you very much.
[04:04] <walden> or precisely, uname -r
[04:05] <jossver> I need to remove the xorg-driver-fglrx package, but it gives errors... Please look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11529
[04:05] <Dr_Willis> funkenstein,  each user can have a .Xsession as well. but if they are 2 different users I dont see what gdm.conf-custome has to do with it. :P
[04:05] <erimar77> toolehx, you'll need cedega from transgaming.com however, you can't play online
[04:05] <Dr_Willis> erimar77,  heh - sort of makes the game less fun then eh?
[04:05] <toolehx> erimar77: howcome. Last time I used Cedega was on counterstrike, and I got 50% less FPS than in windows.
[04:06] <erimar77> toolehx, punkbuster isn't supported
[04:06] <toolehx> erimar77: oh ok, what about winex etc
[04:06] <pier> hi, I have a problem with my Ubuntu, I installed the english version and now, when I send emails with spanish caracters the get changed  (I can see them correctly but the people receiving the email dont)
[04:06] <scarn> whats the best way to in install ubuntu on a win xp sp2 rig in RAID 0
[04:07] <erimar77> toolehx, winex is the old version of cedega.. winex doesn't exist anymore
[04:07] <toolehx> erimar77: Oh okay. Should it run faster/slower than running the game from windows?
[04:07] <erimar77> i have no idea
[04:08] <Sulle-> gnomefreak, sry for asking u all the time, but now i am on my home pc and i have forgotten the command to install that splash thing :|
[04:08] <jossver> I need to uninstall xorg-driver-fglrx, but it gives errors: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11529 how do I solve this please?
[04:08] <erimar77> i installed bf2, but i don't really care what my framerates are, as long as it's playable..  however without multiplayer, it was pointless
[04:09] <xst> How can I prevent sound applications from blocking each other? If e.g. amarok is playing a tune and KDE plays a sound in order to catch my attention when some dialog is shown, the KDE sound is queued and played whenever amarok finishes the tune. Way too late. Furthermore amarok is now interruptet because of some busy sound device. Very user un-friendly. Can I somehow make the sound applications *share* the device? (Mix sounds)
[04:10] <pier> does anyone know how to configure gnome so that the characters that I'm typping are the same that will be send with an email?
[04:10] <jossver> I need to uninstall xorg-driver-fglrx, but it gives errors: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11529 how do I solve this please?
[04:11] <da-borg> why does the ubuntu setup create these partitions?
[04:11] <da-borg> /dev/hda4            9491        9726     1895670    5  Extended
[04:11] <da-borg> /dev/hda5   *        9491        9711     1775151   83  Linux
[04:11] <da-borg> the start block overlaps
[04:11] <da-borg> this seems odd to me
[04:12] <walden> i guess it created an extended partition, and within that, it created a / for linux and the rest for swap?
[04:12] <walden> like linux plus swap add upto the extended partition?
[04:13] <da-borg> just looks odd
[04:13] <da-borg> with the start blocks overlapping
[04:13] <da-borg> they are also logical rather than primary
[04:14] <void^> the extended partition is primary.
[04:14] <Khamael> does ubuntu delete the .deb files after they`ve been installed?
[04:14] <walden> Khamael: no.
[04:14] <Khamael> walden, how do I remove them?
[04:14] <da-borg> ok
[04:14] <walden> Khamael: they are all in /var/cache/apt/archives
[04:14] <funkenstein> Dr_Willis, well, when I log out of "me" and log into "office", xover office still won't start. that's why I thought the custom session would do it... I might be asking the wrong question: Is there a way to enable xgl *just for 1 user*. All the xgl/compiz forum threads show you the lines to add to your gdm.conf-custom, but that changes the xserver for *all* the users, not just the one.... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11530
[04:14] <Khamael> walden, is it safe to delete them?
[04:14] <walden> Khamael: do a sudo apt-get autoclean or sudo apt-get clean
[04:15] <walden> Khamael: yeah, clean them with apt-get using the clean option.
[04:15] <tristanmike> Khamael: completely safe
[04:15] <tbaa> !mplayer
[04:15] <ubotu> mplayer is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[04:15] <Dr_Willis> funkenstein,  ive never seen the how to mention   gdm.conf-custom  , just .gnomerc
[04:15] <palco> hi to everyone
[04:15] <Dr_Willis> funkenstein,  the place to ask would be #ubuntu-xgl
[04:16] <Jemt> Does anyone know how I can create a .jar file from a .java source file? - Using command line
[04:16] <Sulle-> how do i change my language on ubuntu? do i have to reinstall it? or can i change it from here?
[04:16] <toolehxx> ffs, net keeps dying
[04:16] <toolehxx> where can I find the 2.6.12-10 source tree?
[04:16] <toolehxx> quick help before net dies :(
[04:17] <palco> has anyone been able to use network-manager with pptp on either breezy or dapper? :-/
[04:17] <walden> on www.kernel.org?
[04:17] <oerby> hello everyone
[04:17] <walden> heya arrick
[04:17] <walden> hello Pecisk
[04:17] <rapha> Hi all!
[04:17] <walden> err, oerby hello
[04:17] <walden> rapha: hello
[04:17] <rapha> What's the preferred way in Ubuntu to set additional network routes?
[04:17] <walden> yikes. i sound like a greeter bot.
[04:18] <Pecisk> walden: hello bot :D
[04:18] <walden> Pecisk: hehe
[04:18] <palco> has anyone been able to use network-manager with pptp on either breezy or dapper?
[04:18] <walden> rapha: sudo route add
[04:18] <Storkme> is there a command line program to change the bitrate of my mp3 files? my stupid new phone only accepts like up to 192kbps
[04:18] <ascab> Hi all!
[04:19] <spieke> hi
[04:19] <ascab> How could I install a Total Commander like file manager? Thanks.
[04:19] <oerby> synaptic froze while i installed a couple of packages, and now every time i start synaptic or try to use apt i get an error message: E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[04:19] <Sulle-> what on earth?, u know the button far down to the left, the "desktop" button. it is gone :S
[04:19] <Sulle-> what to do ?
[04:19] <walden> what is total commander?
[04:19] <OdyX> Hey.
[04:19] <ascab> Total Commander is a file manager.
[04:19] <ascab> With two windows.
[04:19] <tristanmike> Sulle-: add to panel ?  re add it ?
[04:19] <spieke> i run ubuntu on a pentium2 what can i do to make run faster?
[04:19] <OdyX> I cannot access anymore to my TTY's. [Ctrl] -[Alt] -[F1]  gives me black screen
[04:19] <walden> Sulle-: right click, add to panel.. select
[04:19] <OdyX> anyone knows ?
[04:20] <rob_p> Storkme:  The lame encoder can do it.
[04:20] <Storkme> spieke, i'm assuming you're using gnome?
[04:20] <oerby> if i try to run dpkg --configure -a it freezes too
[04:20] <spieke> i'm using the standaard
[04:20] <spieke> yes gnome
[04:20] <Storkme> rob_p, okay, i'll check that out :)
[04:20] <da-borg> i'm getting a kernel panic when loading ubuntu. it doesn't appear to like the root argument in the kernel entry.
[04:20] <da-borg> root (hd0,4)
[04:20] <da-borg> kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-9-386 root=/dev/hda5 ro
[04:20] <da-borg> anyone looks wrong with that?
[04:20] <Sulle-> walden, oh thnx :)
[04:20] <da-borg> anything*
[04:20] <Storkme> spieke, are you familiar with the command line?
[04:20] <spieke> nope
[04:21] <spieke> i would like to learn that!
[04:21] <rob_p> Storkme:  I just can't remember if it comes installed by default.  If not, probably something like, "sudo apt-get install lame" should cover it.
[04:21] <Storkme> rob_p, don't worry, i've got it :)
[04:21] <oerby> gstreamer0.8-wavpack is the package that seems to cause the problem, do you know what i can do about it
[04:21] <Storkme> spieke, one thing you can do is install fluxbox (it's a lightweight gui manager)
[04:21] <MenZa> If I want to download KDE 3.5 (on Dapper), do I just do apt-get install kubuntu-desktop - just like Breezy?
[04:21] <spieke> its in package manager?
[04:21] <ascab> Good by, have a nice day!
[04:21] <Storkme> !tell spieke about fluxbox
[04:22] <spieke> thanx
[04:22] <Storkme> no problem
[04:22] <spieke> and were can i learn more about the terminal and how to use it?
[04:22] <funkenstein> Dr_Willis, Sorry, i didn't realise such a channel existed... I shall stop spamming you guys now, and move on to the xgl channel...
[04:22] <MenZa> !tell spieke about terminal
[04:22] <MenZa> ;)
[04:23] <Storkme> spieke, i'm not exactly sure. i think it's kind of a thing you pick up as you go along
[04:23] <Sulle-> what was the command to install that splash program?
[04:23] <jossver> cedega says: Could not load graphics driver 'x11drv'  -- what should I do ?
[04:23] <funkenstein> before I go - I'm pretty sure that the BF2 not playing punkbuster servers has to do with your nvidia drivers- it works 'fine' on 7667 drivers (minor crashing, not too fast), but not on the 8178 drivers.... :@
[04:23] <da-borg> hmm, does the root= parameter in the kernel entry need to point to the primary partition which the default setup creates or the first logical?
[04:23] <spieke> i suppose you should know people that use linux to be able to learn it that way!
[04:24] <funkenstein> I'd recommend you just wait a little longer on cedega working out the problems...
[04:24] <palco> network-manager is a nice applet to replace the current net activity appl and it can connect to some vpn servers, but pptp by default! there is a way to install the pptp support by adding a plugin. It can be found in a tarball. But I need a .deb install package for Ubuntu. Anyone has it? Anyone know where to find it / install it some other way. Guys, please :(
[04:24] <spieke> i suppose there's know tutorial or something
[04:24] <MenZa> spieke: It would be much too comprehensive; you can do just about anything in the console.
[04:24] <MenZa> terminal*
[04:25] <spieke> right but i have no idea how! So how could i ever learn?
[04:25] <MenZa> So, if I were to install KDE on my dapper install, it's just apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, like with Breezy?
[04:25] <clusty> how can i find out what are the fontservers of a workstation?
[04:25] <MenZa> spieke: I'm pretty stupid at using it aswell; you'll get used to it.
[04:25] <Sulle-> how do i change the language on my linux? must i reinstall it or can it be changed from here?
[04:26] <funkenstein> Dr_Willis, thanks for you help thought
[04:26] <funkenstein> though
[04:26] <spieke> k thanx\
[04:26] <funkenstein> :P
[04:26] <damg> is it possible to update breezy's x.org to 6.9/7.0?
[04:26] <tristanmike> Sulle-: I believe you look for something called Regional Settings or even Language some where in "System"
[04:27] <damg> i mean are there packages available?=
[04:27] <jossver> how to install x11-drv? cedega needs it
[04:27] <rob_p> spieke:  Start with one thing...  Maybe learn how to manipulate your network interfaces from the command line.  Once you're comfortable with that, move on to something else.  You'd be surprised how fast you learn when you have a task at hand!
[04:27] <Dr_Willis> jossver,  you sure its not asking for xlibs ?
[04:27] <jossver> Could not load graphics driver 'x11drv'
[04:27] <jossver> Could not load graphics driver 'x11drv'
[04:27] <Dr_Willis> jossver,  you using Dapper by any  Chance?
[04:27] <jossver> oops, twice
[04:28] <jossver> Dr_Willis: Nope, breezy
[04:28] <da-borg> well, i've installed it twice and all i get is a kernel panic :/
[04:28] <da-borg> kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-9-386 root=/dev/hda4 ro <---- ubuntu doesn't like this at all
[04:29] <da-borg> anyone here got a reference grub that ubuntu creates itself?
[04:29] <jossver> Dr_Willis: have any ideas?
[04:30] <jossver> cedega says: Could not load graphics driver 'x11drv'  -- what should I do ?
[04:31] <da-borg> jossver: sounds like your gfx drivers are configured correctly
[04:31] <Dr_Willis> jossver,  not really. that sounds like a X11 config issue.. odd.
[04:31] <da-borg> are not*
[04:31] <damg> or better to ask: how can I upgrade breezy to dapper?
[04:31] <bliss1_> hi
[04:32] <da-borg> has anyone got a default setup created ubuntu grub.conf i can take a look at?
[04:32] <_jason> !upgrade
[04:32] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade.  Upgrading to dapper (remember it may break). Please test the dist-upgrader -> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html.
[04:32] <jossver> da-borg: Well, currently I have ATI drivers installed while I need Nvidia ones - but the ATI drivers won't uninstall
[04:33] <jossver> da-borg: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11529
[04:33] <da-borg> jossver, just install nvidia-glx and change xorg.conf to reflect the change it driver
[04:34] <jossver> da-borg: install nvidia-glx wants to uninstall xorg-driver-fglrx, but it won't uninstall
[04:34] <da-borg> jossver: any error?
[04:35] <jossver> da-borg: I gave you a link above (http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11529)
[04:35] <da-borg> k
[04:35] <bliss1_> Frogzoo: just started to instrall an OS under QEMU and it got to 61% if installation then acording dmesg it was killed [4309235.823000]  Out of Memory: Killed process 10073 (qemu)
[04:37] <bliss1_> arrick: hi
[04:37] <da-borg> jossver, i'm not an apt expert, but it sounds like you need to do a equivilent of revdep-rebuild
[04:37] <hieuvo> do ubuntu needed to be installed first so that edubuntu can be installed guys?
[04:37] <da-borg> jossver: thats the tool i would use in gentoo to do it
[04:38] <jossver> eh
[04:38] <jossver> okay, i've got a fix
[04:38] <jossver> I need to remove that package and install the nvidia drivers and it'll work
[04:38] <jossver> but that package won't be removed
[04:38] <jossver> is there some way I can force-delete it?
[04:38] <ogra> hieuvo, do you have an edubuntu CD ?
[04:38] <da-borg> maybe apt-get has a force switch?
[04:39] <hieuvo> yes
[04:39] <hieuvo> ogra, yes
[04:39] <ogra> hieuvo, then just install from it ...
[04:39] <hieuvo> but when i tried installed it always say check integration CD
[04:39] <ubuntu> hello
[04:39] <hieuvo> but i check md5sum it ok
[04:39] <ogra> hieuvo, then you probabky have burned it to fast
[04:40] <ogra> *probably
[04:40] <funkenstein> AWW HELL!! no one's answering in ubuntu-xgl :@
[04:40] <funkenstein> *slaps himself, stops the moaning.*
[04:40] <ogra> hieuvo, you shuldnt burn bootables faster than 8x
[04:40] <hieuvo> ogra ok i will burn once more haha thanx
[04:40] <hieuvo> ohhhhhhhhhh
[04:40] <da-borg> ok, i'll ask again for the 10th time... can anyone past/msg me the ubuntu kernel line in grub please? i'm getting a kernel panic with mine!
[04:40] <hieuvo> i burnt at 40x ouch
[04:40] <hieuvo> thanx
[04:40] <erg0t_> hello
[04:41] <ogra> hieuvo, btw, feel free to pop in to #edubuntu :)
[04:41] <erg0t_> once i install xubuntu desktop via apt... how do i switch to it?? :/
[04:41] <hieuvo> not many peeps in there :)
[04:41] <ogra> you didnt ask there :)
[04:41] <jossver> how to force uninstall a package?
[04:41] <ogra> they all know the answers :)
[04:41] <da-borg> erg0t_: probably ~/.xinitrc
[04:42] <erg0t_> da-borg, thanks
[04:42] <da-borg> erg0t_: or /etc/rc.conf
[04:43] <da-borg> depending if you want it to autoload from the console straight into X
[04:43] <erg0t_> well
[04:43] <erg0t_> can it be configured to select it at startup?
[04:43] <erg0t_> like how you can select to use kde or gnome...
[04:43] <da-borg> erg0t_: that would be /etc/rc.conf
[04:44] <erg0t_> no such file or dir :(
[04:44] <hesham> hello all
[04:44] <carthik> jossver, you need to read this, perhaps: http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=05/10/12/1952217
[04:44] <fredrik__> why does mirc etc gets closed when i minimize it ?
[04:44] <da-borg> well, thats on my gentoo system
[04:44] <carthik> hi hesham
[04:44] <hesham> how can I play divx files in Ubuntu
[04:45] <erg0t_> hmm
[04:45] <da-borg> erg0t_: just do - sudo find / -name rc.conf
[04:45] <sbartleylinux> ogra, can you give me the wiki address for installation and configuration of ltsp on Breezy or Dapper?  (Not edubuntu).
[04:45] <_jason> hesham: interested in any particular player? xine, mplayer, vlc?
[04:46] <ESPOiG> im downloadin the xfce ubuntu dapper build disc... so it shuld have xfce on it not gnome/kde and i have to do stuff to get xfce to run right?
[04:46] <fredrik__> vlc works great
[04:46] <fredrik__> but what program and how to get it to change my splash screen ?
[04:47] <ogra> sbartleylinux, sudo apt-get install ltsp-server-standalone openssh-server && sudo ltsp-build-client && sudo gedit /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf && sudo /etc/init.d/dhcp3-server restart && boot a client ... and read the ThinclientHowto
[04:47] <carthik> !tell hesham about restricted formats
[04:47] <_jason> fredrik__: huh? what program what?
[04:47] <sbartleylinux> ogra, thx.  somehow, I manage to mess it up every time I try.:)  Oh well, still learning. thx.
[04:47] <Noxneo> hello all
[04:47] <fredrik__> _jason, to change my splash screen
[04:48] <_jason> ubotu: tell fredrik__ about usplash
[04:48] <ogra> sbartleylinux, copy and paste up to "&& boot a client" should set it up completely :)
[04:48] <fredrik__> and why does my programs disapears when i minimize them?
[04:48] <_jason> fredrik__: do you have the window list enabled on any panel?
[04:48] <hieuvo> the edubuntu cd cant be used in new machine with dvd burner but can be read from old machine with cd dirve???
[04:48] <sbartleylinux> ogra, thx again.  will do so today.
[04:48] <mandu> i speak germany
[04:49] <fredrik__> dont think so
[04:49] <_jason> !de
[04:49] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[04:49] <_jason> fredrik__: right click on a panel > add window list
[04:49] <ogra> hey culd someone add #edubuntu-de to ubotu ?
[04:49] <_jason> fredrik__: hrmm what exactly did you mean by splash screen?  I may have misinterpreted you
[04:49] <Sulle-> ohh
[04:49] <Sulle-> <---- fredrik :)
[04:50] <Sulle-> thnx _jason
[04:50] <_jason> ogra: do you speak german?
[04:50] <ogra> _jason, yep
[04:50] <joaquim> lol
[04:50] <da-borg> Kernel panic: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0) ^^
[04:50] <vmora> what your name?
[04:50] <ESPOiG> im downloadin the xfce ubuntu dapper build disc... so it shuld have xfce on it not gnome/kde and i have to do stuff to get xfce to run right?
[04:50] <_jason> ogra: modify the sentence above to include @edubuntu-de and make sense and I'll show you how it gets added
[04:51] <_jason> s/@/#
[04:51] <vmora> maricon
[04:51] <mandu> hi i speak germany
[04:51] <_jason> !de
[04:51] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[04:51] <ogra> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de
[04:51] <ogra> hmm
[04:52] <ogra> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de
[04:52] <ogra> better
[04:52] <_jason> ubotu: no de is <reply> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de
[04:52] <ubotu> okay, _jason
[04:52] <ogra> !de
[04:52] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de
[04:52] <Sulle-> sad
[04:52] <fredrik_> 
[04:52] <ogra> cool ! thanks a lot !
[04:53] <Sulle-> how to change my language on ubuntu?. must i reinstall it ? or what?
[04:53] <Sulle-> i cant figure it out
[04:53] <_jason> Sulle-: system > administration > language selector
[04:54] <Sulle-> _jason,  that did not work, or maybe i have to restart ?
[04:54] <_jason> Sulle-: maybe, I've never actually changed it.  At worst a log out and log in would be needed
[04:54] <Sulle-> okok
[04:55] <carthik> !ubotu de is also #edubuntu-de
[04:55] <ubotu> carthik: okay
[04:56] <_jason> carthik: ?
[04:56] <ogra> carthik, thanks :)
[04:56] <tristanmike> If i had a windows "only" program, but I had the source, could I compile for linux ?
[04:56] <_jason> carthik: fix it please, now he says edubuntu twice
[04:56] <arrick> morning everybody
[04:56] <_jason> arrick: hello
[04:56] <walden> reboot time
[04:56] <carthik> d'oh, sorry folks. I took some time to readup on how to add factoids to ubotu.._jason, ogra i will fix it...
[04:56] <jadaz87> hello does anyone know of a command line based email client?
[04:56] <_jason> ubotu: no de is <reply> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de
[04:56] <ubotu> okay, _jason
[04:57] <arrick> _jason, you get any sleep last night?
[04:57] <_jason> carthik: it's ok I had it in my history
[04:57] <_jason> arrick: ~4 hrs
[04:57] <arrick> me too
[04:57] <carthik> thanks _jason
[04:57] <thegve> Hi ya'll. Just installed Ubuntu Dapper and had a few problems. After installing, it didn't boot. The directory /boot didn't exist. Created the directory and made a symlink in it to /grub and everything works again. After apt-getting smbfs there is one bad formatted commentline starting with +####Domain. Removed the + and it works again.
[04:58] <slavik> morning
[04:58] <thegve> Few small probs in the packages
[04:58] <carthik> thegve, hope you have filed bugs, or added to existing ones :)
[04:58] <ddonky> hi
[04:58] <jadaz87> !dapper
[04:58] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[04:58] <thegve> ok... I'll do
[04:58] <thegve> not done yet
[04:59] <thegve> what's the uri again?
[04:59] <hesham> mplayer
[04:59] <_jason> ubotu: tell hesham about mplayer
[04:59] <slavik> is there a spacemonger type utility for linux?
[04:59] <_jason> hesham: you will have to still install w32codecs as instructed in the restricted formats page
[04:59] <carthik> thegve, thanks :) http://launchpad.net/malone/ for bug list and https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/+package to file bugs
[04:59] <thegve> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs
[04:59] <thegve> hehe
[04:59] <r0ver> slavik: spacemonger ?
[05:00] <thegve> found it
[05:00] <slavik> r0ver: spacemonger is a windows program that shows you the structure of the disk
[05:00] <hesham> where can I get w32codecs
[05:00] <_jason> ubotu: tell hesham about w32codecs
[05:00] <r0ver> slavik: like partition magic ?
[05:01] <carthik> slavik, a graphical directory tree showing filespace usage etc? use boabab
[05:01] <slavik> so, if some dir is taking up 90% of space on the disk, that dir will take up 90% of space in the program window
[05:01] <slavik> carthik: only space is needed
[05:01] <slavik> I want to see how I managed to kill most of my hd space ...
[05:01] <carthik> slavik use baobab - graphical tool to analyse directory trees
[05:03] <jossver> dpkg-divert: `diversion of /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 to /usr/lib/nvidia/libGL.so.1.xlibmesa by nvidia-glx' clashes with `diversion of /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 to /usr/lib/fglrx/libGL.so.1.xlibmesa by xorg-driver-fglrx'
[05:04] <slavik> also, is there a script to show packages that are not required by any other package?
[05:04] <hesham> this works fine, I used synaptec
[05:04] <shaggyoaf> does anybody know if dapper is still using devfs instead of udev?
[05:05] <Gosha> how do I change the framebuffer in ubuntu? the fb1024x768 in boot didn't work
[05:05] <hesham> another question, I used before a live linux CD called slax, this cd automount available HDD partitions and put short cuts in the desktop, how can I do this in ubuntu
[05:06] <slavik> carthik: ty, baobab works :D
[05:07] <carthik> slavik, you're welcome
[05:07] <Kolan> hi, I've problems creating the file system during setup. I had Debian installed before which worked well. The problem is when getting to the process when the filesystem is written it goes to 100% and then stalls. anyone with experience in this?
[05:07] <Analvisage> *pups*
[05:07] <carthik> slavik, use debfoster, or read http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/index.php?s=debfoster
[05:09] <hesham> I should use realplayer, or there is additional codec for mplayer?
[05:09] <Sulle-> why cant i listen to music ?, i can hear the linux sounds but it wont play a song
[05:09] <Frafra> hi all
[05:09] <Sulle-> hi
[05:10] <Frafra> who use a laptop with centrino duo?
[05:10] <TomaszD> Sulle-, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:10] <simonpca> Sulle-: what's your multimedia player?
[05:10] <hybernate> exit
[05:10] <Sulle-> beep
[05:11] <erimar77> i have a question about evolution/thunderbird when someone gets a chance
[05:11] <Kolan> hi, I've problems creating the file system during setup. I had Debian installed before which worked well. The problem is when getting to the process when the filesystem is written it goes to 100% and then stalls. anyone with experience in this?
[05:11] <Gosha> again: how do I change the framebuffer in ubuntu? the fb1024x768 in boot didn't work
[05:12] <giany911> dudes any one can help me with a xchat thingy ?
[05:12] <erimar77> what's up with xchat
[05:12] <hesham> anybody with automount solution
[05:12] <alejandro_> hello
[05:12] <giany911> i installed x tray a tray icon for xchat but i cant get rid of it on the taskbar
[05:12] <SpiderMan> can anybody help me with updating my thunderbird to 1.0 from 1.0.7 on Breezy ?
[05:12] <giany911> i want it only in the tray
[05:12] <SpiderMan> sorry 1.5
[05:13] <erimar77> hey spiderman, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ThunderbirdNewVersion
[05:14] <Nate00> hello
[05:14] <bigfoot1> how do i search via a keyword (not browsing) through the commands i ran in terminal?
[05:14] <GURT> can anyone tell me how to clear out these "ghost" cd/dvd icons on my desktop? I have no discs in my drive and have tried refreshing and ejecting via context menu
[05:14] <Nate00> is thomas in here?
[05:14] <VR_> can i use the dapper livecd to eventually install it permanently?
[05:14] <slavik> bigfoot1: history | grep keywork
[05:14] <Gosha> ..what the ..
[05:14] <bigfoot1> slavik: thank
[05:14] <bigfoot1> s
[05:14] <walden> how frequently are the packages in dapper updated? like all through the day?
[05:14] <slavik> VR_: I wouldn't count on that
[05:14] <erimar77> VR, yes, using the expresso installer
[05:14] <SpiderMan> thanks erimar77
[05:14] <Gosha> .. can't at least someone tell me how to find about it?
[05:15] <slavik> walden: as soon as a new one is available?
[05:15] <slavik> Gosha: find what?
[05:15] <VR_> erimar77: expresso is included, right?
[05:15] <rapha> I do know about route.
[05:15] <walden> slavik: ok. because each time i do apt-get update every few hours, it downloads new package listings:D
[05:15] <hesham> ubotu: tell hesham about mount
[05:15] <rapha> But how to PERMANENTLY add a route under Ubuntu, preferably?
[05:15] <Hybernate> whats the quick command for changing desktop?
[05:15] <slavik> walden: right
[05:15] <erimar77> changing desktop to what
[05:15] <slavik> rapha: route?
[05:16] <Hybernate> i have 4 desktops i thought it was like alt - 1 2 3 4 but?
[05:16] <Gosha> "again: how do I change the framebuffer in ubuntu? the fb1024x768 in boot didn't work"
[05:16] <slavik> Hybernate: try the windows key
[05:16] <erimar77> try ctrl-alt 1 2 3
[05:16] <b1shop> could someone running ubuntu do me a favor and check the apt repo's too see of there is an ftape or zftape package?
[05:16] <rapha> slavik: route does not make the routes permanent. They're lost again after a reboot.
[05:16] <slavik> Gosha, is that what you are told on a wiki page?
[05:16] <Hybernate> nope none of it works
[05:16] <erimar77> looking for ftape...
[05:16] <bigfoot1> is it true that gentoo is better than ubuntu in terms of it automatically self-compiling packages/kernel, tailored for your own pc?
[05:16] <Gosha> no idea
[05:17] <Gosha> .. it worked on knoppix
[05:17] <walden> i did'nt get any of those. ftape or zftape
[05:17] <erimar77> me either
[05:17] <walden> check packages.ubuntu.com for confirmation
[05:17] <slavik> bigfoot1: do you want to wait 2-3 days for a usable system?
[05:18] <Sulle-> i still cant hear music on beep
[05:18] <bigfoot1> slavik: not sure how to answer that.
[05:18] <hesham> how to automount guys pleeeeeeeeease help
[05:18] <Hybernate> workspaces i mean how do i switch fast between them
[05:18] <slavik> bigfoot1: gentoo compiles EVERYTHING
[05:18] <Frafra> does Centrino wifi work in dapper?
[05:18] <slavik> which takes time
[05:18] <bigfoot1> slavik: if waiting means a better system, than I'll do my waiting when I'm away from my computer
[05:18] <b1shop> haha.  ftape = floppy tape.  support in kernel 1.x
[05:18] <Sulle-> WHY cant i play songs on beep ?
[05:18] <Sulle-> never mind
[05:18] <slavik> bigfoot1: how much of a performance increase do you think you'll get?
[05:19] <Sulle-> :) got it now <3
[05:19] <walden> Sulle-: :)
[05:19] <erimar77> do you have the restricted media stuff installed Sulle
[05:19] <bigfoot1> slavik: i don't know.
[05:19] <bigfoot1> i'm a newbie.
[05:19] <slavik> 5% at the extreme maximum?
[05:19] <bigfoot1> i'm new to linux
[05:19] <bigfoot1> new to ubuntu
[05:19] <arrick> Sulle-, what format are the songs?
[05:19] <slavik> IMO, it is not worth it ...
[05:19] <darkhorizon> hullo all
[05:19] <erimar77> howdy harkhorizon
[05:19] <arrick> and are you on beep or bmpx Sulle-
[05:19] <darkhorizon> i have a question, for which i've exhausted about as much google searching as i can stand ;)
[05:19] <arrick> !justask
[05:19] <ubotu> Ask your question and we'll try to answer it.
[05:19] <b1shop> anyone check their kernel for ftape?  [/usr/src/linux/] drivers/char/ftape/zftape/
[05:20] <slavik> I've compiled thing in FreeBSD ... not a pleasant experience
[05:20] <Sulle-> arrick, mp3 formats but i have fixed it now
[05:20] <arrick> ok
[05:20] <Gosha> ... still :(
[05:20] <hesham> any answer please
[05:20] <darkhorizon> well, i deleted my /var/cache folder, thinking to clean up some space on that partition
[05:20] <arrick> if you want to get support of most formats, bmpx is the new version, and supports more by default, but ok Sulle-
[05:20] <darkhorizon> lo and behold, apt is broken :)
[05:21] <SpiderMan> erimar77 do you know how I can do the same for firefox ?
[05:21] <bigfoot1> slavik: what i heard is that gentoo does the compiling for you.
[05:21] <darkhorizon> i'm prepared to reinstall the os, but i'd like to know if there's a way to fix it without a reinstall
[05:21] <erimar77> what is your exact problem darkhorizon
[05:21] <bigfoot1> slavik: in other words, in this case, gentoo is more userfriendly/newbie-friendly
[05:21] <slavik> bigfoot1: yes ... but it still takes a LONG while
[05:21] <erimar77> your apt is borked?
[05:21] <arrick> cant you copy the folder from the cdrom darkhorizon ?
[05:21] <bigfoot1> slavik: but the wating is just once, yes?
[05:21] <slavik> bigfoot1: FreeBSD compiled everything for you, too.
[05:21] <erimar77> darkhorizon, can't you try sudo apt-get install -f
[05:22] <Gosha> ...bloody framebuffer..
[05:22] <Bambino> How do you open a different workspace? any shortcut to just press something??
[05:22] <darkhorizon> example error when installing something from apt:
[05:22] <darkhorizon> DbDriver "config": could not open /var/cache/debconf/config.dat
[05:22] <slavik> bigfoot1: everytime you want to install something
[05:22] <slavik> and gnome/kde will take a long while
[05:22] <Sound> guys i got a little problem here, when i try to install wine, it finds GCC 3.4, but it gives the error: Checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables, what to do?
[05:22] <arrick> Bambino, gnome?
[05:22] <slavik> !framebuffer
[05:22] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, slavik
[05:22] <Bambino> arrick, yes?
[05:22] <slavik> !livecd
[05:22] <arrick> bottom rigth side and there are 4 boxes, click on one, Bambino
[05:23] <slavik> Gosha: did you try the wiki?
[05:23] <Bambino> arrick, any short command? without clickin?
[05:23] <slavik> arrick: he wants a kb shortcut
[05:23] <arrick> not sure Bambino
[05:23] <bigfoot1> thanks for your help slavik.
[05:23] <arrick> cant remember
[05:23] <slavik> np
[05:23] <Bambino> !LVM
[05:23] <ubotu> lvm is probably (for the moment) http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/
[05:24] <Sound> anybody knows how to fix the error i get when i try to install wine? error is: Checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[05:24] <arrick> Sound, did you install build essential?
[05:24] <Sound> not yet as far as i know
[05:25] <walden> hey, i had gkrellm running, then i clicked on the show desktop icon.. and gkrellm minimized.. but not to the task bar. because i had earlier told gkrellm confi to stay off the task bar. how do i get it back?
[05:25] <Sulle-> how can i get my files from windows over to my wmware linux ?
[05:25] <arrick> sudo aptitude install build-essential       sound
[05:25] <arrick> Sound, ^^
[05:25] <Sound> so if i do so it should work?
[05:25] <arrick> type it into the terminal -sound
[05:25] <arrick> yeah
[05:25] <arrick> thats what I had to do
[05:26] <Sound> okay doing so now
[05:27] <Sound> i still have the same error
[05:27] <darkhorizon> erimar77, looks like the -f option doesn't work
[05:27] <sovieticool> hy know some body how to enable a sata patition to be mounted auto on startup
[05:27] <sovieticool> ??
[05:27] <erimar77> i didn't think it would, it was just a thought
[05:27] <darkhorizon> yeah
[05:27] <darkhorizon> oh well, reinstall it is
[05:27] <erimar77> everything i've read comes up with no answer :(
[05:28] <arrick> ok, you need more help than I can give then
[05:28] <darkhorizon> probably be shorter than spending 3h troubleshooting it ;)
[05:28] <erimar77> sorry dude.. at least you learned a lot
[05:28] <arrick> it fixed mine, sorry
[05:28] <Sound> okay thanks anyway Arrick
[05:28] <conn> hi, is it possible to pass an argument to apt-get to force a downgrade of a deb? For example, I added a 3rd party repo with newer system debs, but I want now to downgrade to the official debs. I've commented the 3rd party repo and updated, but trying to reinstall just reports that the packages can't be downloaded
[05:28] <arrick> np :-)
[05:28] <erimar77> conn.. can you do sudo apt-get --reinstall install <packagename?
[05:29] <darkhorizon> erimar77: haha well i learned not to delete stuff randomly
[05:29] <erimar77> darkhorizon.. i did the same by killing those processes at startup i had no idea about
[05:29] <arrick> when will peope learn that aptitude creates a package that can be uninstalled easily?
[05:30] <erimar77> arrick.. is there an ubuntu wiki page explaining aptitude
[05:30] <conn> erimar77: that's what I tried, but it reports the package can't be downloaded
[05:30] <slavik> erimar77: man aptitude
[05:30] <Piete> Hey guys, in bash, is there a way to specifiy a range of numbers? So I can do something like "for number in {1-100}", and have it do something with all the nubmers from 1 to 100?
[05:30] <slavik> or use synaptic?
[05:30] <sovieticool> please send me a tutorial somebody how to mount a partiotion on startup
[05:30] <sovieticool> ??
[05:30] <arrick> man I specifically told my techs to use aptitude so we could uninstalll easily, and the did th apt-get, now gotta do it all manually, this sucks
[05:30] <xukun> erimar77, why not just use apt-get?
[05:30] <slavik> piete, you can specify the lowest and largest number
[05:30] <arrick> 7000 computers to go
[05:31] <simonpca> sovieticool: look at the wiki, you only have to edit your fstab file, and it's very easy
[05:31] <Piete> slavik, whats the syntax?
[05:31] <erimar77> xukun... because of this:  <arrick> when will peope learn that aptitude creates a package that can be uninstalled easily?
[05:31] <arrick> !sources
[05:31] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[05:31] <slavik> hmm, I forget
[05:31] <Sound> anybody knows how to fix the error "Checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables" when installing wine?
[05:31] <devnull_> so i am getting kernel panic - not syncing: VFA: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block ... can't figure out why
[05:31] <erimar77> and you don't get any smarter by only using one thing
[05:31] <slavik> something along the lines of while (i<j) { i++;}
[05:32] <Piete> slavik, ah :) Yea, thanks.. I was trying to avoid using while or until, but looks like don't have a choice :)
[05:32] <cva> using gnome, is there a way to adjust the mouse scroll wheel rate? the mouse preference doesn't have an option for it.
[05:32] <slavik> piete, a for loop gets translated into while anyway... in c anyways
[05:33] <arrick> hey erimar77 I just learned of it the other day myself, so no biggy, but my techs installed stuff they only needed for an install, now we gotta remove it all manually:-(
[05:33] <sovieticool> simonpca i kan't find it :(
[05:33] <slavik> arrick: you can remove packages using apt-get ...
[05:33] <erimar77> yeah, you can do sudo apt-get remove <packagename>
[05:33] <Piete> slavik, yea, it's just it's past midnight and I'm a lazy bum who needs to wget a ton of files with sequential numbers
[05:33] <Piete> slavik, come to think of it, wget can probable do it itself
[05:33] <arrick> it leaves stuff behind though
[05:33] <simonpca> sovieticool: i think that fstab is in /
[05:33] <erimar77> like what
[05:34] <arrick> fstab is in /etc/fstab
[05:34] <xukun> erimar77, that is not a good argument. You can easily unstall or remove packages just using apt-get , but that using two things dont heart, I agree
[05:34] <Bambino> Guys, are there any hardrive manager on the cd? i wanna format my cd. i got 2 partiones and wanna make them one, THEN install ubuntu.
[05:34] <Bambino> Any tips?
[05:35] <darkhorizon> bambino, the installer can modify partitions in that manner
[05:35] <arrick> as in when you install xampp and then want to remove it, you have a file left behind that looks like a garage sale of stuff
[05:35] <arrick> hang on for specifics
[05:35] <erimar77> xukun.. yeah, some people limit themselves to certain apps, and i'd like to be able to help them all
[05:35] <erimar77> hangin'
[05:35] <firemaker103> I need some help running firefox 1.5.0.1. I'm new at this ;) I downloaded it, but can't open "firefox-bin". What file should I click on?
[05:36] <Seveas> !ff1.5
[05:36] <slavik> firemaker103: did you follow the wiki page?
[05:36] <erimar77> open a terminal, cd to that folder, then run ./firefox-bin
[05:36] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[05:36] <slavik> hey Seveas
[05:36] <erimar77> or what that guy said
[05:36] <Seveas> hi
[05:36] <usuario> ola
[05:36] <erimar77> hola!
[05:36] <carthik> !tell firemaker103 about firefox1.5
[05:36] <slavik> Seveas: is there an easy way to get a package's dependancies?
[05:36] <usuario> msn?????
[05:36] <firemaker103> thanks
[05:36] <slavik> besides parsing /var/lib/dpkg/available
[05:36] <Seveas> slavik, apt-get 
[05:37] <slavik> eh?
[05:37] <Seveas> apt-cache depends $package
[05:37] <Seveas> apt-cache rdepends $package
[05:37] <slavik> oh, ty
[05:37] <arrick> like /Desktop/lampp/bin is full of garbage erimar77, slavik
[05:37] <Seveas> (for dependencies and reverse dependencies)
[05:37] <Seveas> arrick, lampp is crap...
[05:37] <slavik> reverse dependancies are packages that depend on package, right?
[05:37] <erimar77> arrick, how did they install the packages?
[05:37] <Seveas> slavik, correct
[05:37] <arrick> and you got delete one by one the 75 files
[05:37] <arrick> I know
[05:37] <slavik> sweet
[05:38] <arrick> thats why Im making them get rid of it
[05:38] <Seveas> arrick, rm -rf Desktop/lampp/bin 
[05:38] <erimar77> ^
[05:38] <yo> test
[05:38] <arrick> Seveas, tried that, nogo even with sudo
[05:38] <erimar77> test works
[05:38] <Seveas> arrick, what's the error?
[05:38] <arrick> hang on
[05:39] <erimar77> yeah, i find sudo rm -rf /path not working hard to believe
[05:39] <erimar77> it's worked so well in the past, it's bit me in the butt
[05:40] <arrick> I must have had the syntax wrong, cause when I paste it fom you it works Seveas
[05:40] <arrick> thanks
[05:40] <arrick> for the shortcut
[05:40] <erimar77> :) sweet
[05:40] <carthik> Is there a way to have it so that when I click a url in the terminal, it opens up in firefox?
[05:40] <arrick> made my day so much quicker
[05:40] <erimar77> Seveas, how do you make that smiley face?
[05:40] <Seveas> erimar77, like this: 
[05:40] <arrick> :-)
[05:40] <arrick> how
[05:40] <erimar77>   <-- that thing
[05:40] <carthik> Seveas, yeah, you've done that to me before
[05:40] <erimar77> i can only copy and paste it
[05:41] <vla1> where is ths chat roomm in espanish?
[05:41] <Seveas> carthik, rightclick on the url, select open in browser
[05:41] <LadyNikon> carthik: settings in the terminal about default brower?
[05:41] <Seveas> !es
[05:41] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:41] <carthik> Seveas, i would like it to just open on a left click - is that possible, even?
[05:42] <sovieticool_> simonpca
[05:42] <Seveas> carthik, no idea
[05:42] <sovieticool_> help me
[05:42] <simonpca> :D
[05:42] <sovieticool_> :)
[05:42] <simonpca> !fstab
[05:42] <slavik> it is snowing ... in NYC
[05:42] <ubotu> the /etc/fstab  file lists all drives and partitions but can be easily configured automatically with the diskmounter file found here http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter  See <partitions>.
[05:42] <sovieticool_> i'am now in fstab
[05:42] <simonpca> ok
[05:42] <sovieticool_> what to edit there
[05:42] <darkhorizon> slavik, it's snowing here too (ottawa)
[05:42] <simonpca> you add a line
[05:42] <slavik> darkhorizon: but NYC is very south ...
[05:43] <Jimmey__> Is there a Damn Small Linux channel anywhere?
[05:43] <slavik> and it's april ...
[05:43] <simonpca> did you ever did a "mount"
[05:43] <darkhorizon> and it was 20 degrees C here last week ;)
[05:43] <arrick> !DSL
[05:43] <ubotu> pppoe is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ADSLPPPoE
[05:43] <sovieticool_> yes
[05:43] <sovieticool_> i thing :)
[05:43] <arrick> speak in farenheit please, then I can follow you too
[05:43] <arrick> haha
[05:43] <darkhorizon> uhh
[05:43] <carthik> Seveas, Ctrl+Click does it :)
[05:43] <xukun> If one want to learn linux, what is the best place to start. I know the basics but I realy want to learn more. Say like the half that Seveas know;)
[05:43] <darkhorizon> (5/9) * 20 + 32 :)
[05:44] <sovieticool_> i made from here some steps
[05:44] <sovieticool_> http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#automountntfs
[05:44] <slavik> darkhorizon: I blame you canadians for cold weather in NYC :P
[05:44] <arrick> Rutes Exposition
[05:44] <erimar77> cool... ctrl click for the gnome-terminal opening links... thanks too
[05:44] <slavik> xukun: we all wish we knew half of what Seveas knows ... then this channel would be empty :P
[05:44] <darkhorizon> like 70F i think
[05:44] <arrick> http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html.gz xukun
[05:44] <sovieticool_> i must to pun a line like this ?
[05:44] <sovieticool_> /dev/hda1       /media/windows  ntfs    nls=utf8,umask=0222 0       0
[05:44] <erimar77> xukun... get a test machine.. and break it
[05:44] <erimar77> then fix it.. then break it..
[05:45] <wvelez> I just bought Narnya and want to make a back up of it so my kids cant scratch the original (which they will)...Ive tried to back it up using avidemux, dvdrip, dvdshrink and have had no luck...what software could i use? thank you.
[05:45] <xukun> slavik, I agree with that
[05:45] <darkhorizon> then delete /var/cache, then fix it too ;)
[05:45] <erimar77> :)
[05:45] <slavik> wvelez: hide the DVD
[05:45] <arrick> wvelez, once you make the backup, have the kids use it to preserver the orig
[05:46] <wvelez> slavik: brilliant!
[05:46] <erimar77> xukun..  get on ubuntuforums.org.. and help people.. if you don't know how to help them, look it up on google, or try it on your own system..
[05:46] <arrick> yep
[05:46] <arrick> good one erimar77
[05:46] <erimar77> xukun.. this is to fast paced to learn a whole lot..
[05:46] <wvelez> arrick: thanks...Im trying to do just that
[05:46] <wvelez> boy, this channel is filled with einsteins today
[05:46] <xukun> erimar77, breaking a machine can be done realy easy, like uisng just cfdisk in one minute or is that not what you mean?
[05:47] <darkhorizon> wvelez, is that uncommon? my first time here...
[05:47] <slavik> rm -rf /
[05:47] <slavik> :P
[05:47] <arrick> xukun, you can break it any number of ways tehn you gotta learn how to fix it
[05:47] <darkhorizon> xukun, he means "do stuff without fear of breaking the system"
[05:47] <slavik> that will break a system
[05:47] <xukun> erimar77, that last point I agree
[05:47] <darkhorizon> then when it breaks, fix it
[05:47] <tristanmike> slavik: please don't post things like that in here
[05:48] <tristanmike> slavik: new users come in and don't understand and enter commands like that and we all know what it does...
[05:48] <erimar77> xukun... another thing i do is, try to replicate everything I would normally do in windows... play dvds, rip cd's..etc.. just to learn
[05:48] <Bambino> tristanmike, i was just about to try it :P
[05:48] <Bambino> tristanmike, what does it do
[05:48] <tristanmike> Bambino: it will basically delete you entire computer while it's running
[05:48] <arrick> it deletes the root files
[05:48] <slavik> besides, it doesn't have sudo :P
[05:48] <xukun> erimar77, that sounds good too
[05:49] <slavik> how about a wiki page that sys all the things NOT to do?
[05:49] <tristanmike> slavik: that is hardly the point
[05:49] <tristanmike> slavik: that's a great idea, go make it ;-)
[05:49] <walden> lol
[05:49] <slavik> tristanmike: I need food first, thn classes ... :P
[05:49] <darkhorizon> its like telling a nwin98 user "just do a ctrl+alt+del twice quickly"
[05:49] <xukun> arrick, thanks for the book
[05:49] <tristanmike> slavik: yummy, food
[05:49] <gnomefreak> Sulle-: sudo apt-get install gnome-art
[05:50] <Bambino> darkhorizon, thats only restarting the pc :P
[05:50] <darkhorizon> fun once, but ticks the newb off :)
[05:50] <stochastic> hi I'm a very new user to linux and am having troubles getting my second soundcard to work under Ubuntu Breezy.  I've got a soundcard on my motherboard that is the first device (it works fine) and I've got an M-Audio Delta 44 as my second device (it doesnt' work) any thoughts?  I've got the ICE1712 driver loaded for the m-audio but I can't switch cards
[05:50] <darkhorizon> true, but still irritating :D
[05:50] <arrick> no prb
[05:50] <erimar77> xukun.. i don't mean totally disabling your system... things like.. install the latest driver from their website.. like intel..  start and stop services you don't know about
[05:51] <erimar77> xukun.. if you stop a service and it breaks your system, find out what it is and why it's important
[05:51] <Bambino> One question. can I, by using ubuntu and compiling things etc, break the actual hardware of my laptop?
[05:51] <meisterli> Hi! I have a little problem getting the 3d Acceleration ro run on Ubuntu (Kernel 2.6.12-10-k7) I've installed the nvidia drivers via apt-get and they are running, but I don't get any 3d Acceleration
[05:51] <walden> Bambino: no.
[05:51] <gnomefreak> Bambino: no
[05:51] <gnomefreak> just software issues
[05:51] <xukun> erimar77, thanks
[05:51] <Bambino> walden, gnomefreak, i always thought it would. Now I am happy!!!
[05:52] <walden> Bambino: hehe. dont worry.
[05:52] <darkhorizon> bambino, otherwise software wouldn't exist :)
[05:52] <erimar77> xukun, no problem
[05:52] <gnomefreak> meisterli: what does glxinfo | grep direct rendering   output?
[05:52] <walden> Bambino: well, where i come from, there's a brand of food called bambino.. pasta or something.
[05:52] <erimar77> xukun.. i'm on ubuntuforums.org with the same nick.. pm me when you get there
[05:52] <Bambino> walden, I have no idea what so ever why i chose this name :P I didnt know what to call my self
[05:53] <walden> Bambino: hehe.
[05:53] <gnomefreak> meisterli: maybe take off the rendering part of it
[05:53] <arrick> hey walden, I thought for sure til the other day tat Bambino was a girl, but found out other wise
[05:53] <erimar77> or maybe he's the great bambino
[05:53] <walden> arrick: lol. who cares :D
[05:53] <walden> i mean whether they are a girl or not
[05:53] <meisterli> gnomefreak: it says yes
[05:53] <gnomefreak> meisterli: than you have 3d
[05:54] <arrick> I know, he gets upset at being called a she though
[05:54] <walden> hehe
[05:54] <meisterli> yeah, but it's not working right
[05:54] <gnomefreak> meisterli: what makes you think you dont?
[05:54] <Bambino> arrick, Hmm? I am a girl...So how could you find out I am a guy?
[05:54] <meisterli> glxgears has 15 fps
[05:54] <arrick> wrong person sorry Bambino
[05:54] <xukun> erimar77, will do friend
[05:54] <walden> yeah, i remember.. bambino is a brand of pasta and vermicelli.. yum yum.
[05:54] <Gosha> again: how do I change the framebuffer in ubuntu? the fb1024x768 in boot didn't work
[05:54] <arrick> ouch
[05:54] <gnomefreak> meisterli: what card?
[05:54] <meisterli> Geforce 4 Ti 4200
[05:54] <meisterli> schuld be more, uh? ^^
[05:55] <Bambino> Lets make it clear guys. I am NOT a kind of pasta :)
[05:55] <arrick> haha
[05:55] <darkhorizon> lol
[05:55] <B_Hendrix> I can't get skype to work at ubuntu live cd... anyone?
[05:55] <walden> Bambino: haha, ok. i was just saying you reminded me of that. just very hungry here.. and it is 9:30pm
[05:56] <erimar77> how is it 30.. mines says 55
[05:56] <gnomefreak> meisterli: im assuming you installed nvidia-glx and nvidia-settings and than you ran sudo nvidia ..... enable   did you change the settings in sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to nv or nvidia yet?
[05:56] <Putiikki> Gosha: did you try to change grub's settings?
[05:56] <ddonky> shouldn't your name me 'Bambina'
[05:56] <Gosha> ... where?
[05:56] <Putiikki> sec
[05:56] <arrick> oh yeah, that was bimberi that was the guy, I thought was a girl, cause the nam was close to bimbo
[05:56] <arrick> sorry
[05:56] <meisterli> I've changes them manually in the xorg.conf to nvidia
[05:56] <B_Hendrix> *newbie with ubuntu*
[05:56] <walden> arrick: hehe.
[05:56] <pr0fane> hello
[05:56] <arrick> sorry Bambino
[05:56] <erimar77> gosha, does your machine actually boot to a graphical login.. or is it text based
[05:56] <gnomefreak> meisterli: restart x yet?
[05:56] <Krikey> hi. ANyone help me with setting up a multi head system?
[05:57] <pr0fane> anyone that can kindly help me with installing winex on ubuntu
[05:57] <meisterli> yeah, often :)
[05:57] <NAiL> Is there an ubuntu-dev channel somewhere?
[05:57] <gnomefreak> ok hold on i wanna check something
[05:57] <JoeMorris> woah, can run windows xp, linux and mac osx on the new mac
[05:57] <gnomefreak> NAiL: #ubuntu-devel i think
[05:57] <Gosha> ...
[05:57] <erimar77> yup, with that new boot thingy
[05:57] <pr0fane> gnomefreak,
[05:57] <B_Hendrix> *gone
[05:57] <JoeMorris> ubuntu should come preloaded with the mac
[05:57] <JoeMorris> :P
[05:57] <pr0fane> can u help me
[05:57] <Gosha> uhm, well it does the grapcical thing yeah
[05:57] <walden> hehe.
[05:57] <darkhorizon> @joemorris: hmm... link on that?
[05:57] <pr0fane> i want to play games that run on xp
[05:58] <walden> XP can run on the new intel macs?
[05:58] <arrick> pr0fane, good luck
[05:58] <Putiikki> Gosha: here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=104097
[05:58] <darkhorizon> i mean for triple-boot
[05:58] <troy> hi how do i access documentation pkg like sendmail-doc
[05:58] <pr0fane> hi how do i install wine-x on ubuntu! please help
[05:58] <JoeMorris> walden yep
[05:58] <walden> troy: as in? install it.
[05:58] <arrick> !wine
[05:59] <conn> has anyone here got a Dell Inspiron 8000?
[05:59] <arrick> !wine
[05:59] <JoeMorris> walden and if windows xp can i assume linux can be as well
[05:59] <arrick> ok guys is the bot down again?
[05:59] <walden> i have a inspiron 6000m, if that helsp
[05:59] <arrick> walden, yes
[05:59] <walden> JoeMorris: linux most certainly can.
[05:59] <gnomefreak> meisterli: do glxgears -printfps and let it run abotu 10-15 lines than paste the ouput of them on pastebin please
[06:00] <walden> awesome. maybe, i can afford or convince myself to get a powermac soon...
[06:00] <erimar77> profane, do you have winex already downloaded
[06:00] <arrick> !tell pr0fane about wine
[06:00] <JoeMorris> walden:  is it just me or is a collective conscious now coming out where everyone knows everything and its very likely that the os will be all free
[06:00] <pr0fane> no @erimar77
[06:00] <JoeMorris> where people will turn to the linux platform
[06:00] <MenZa> !mount
[06:00] <ubotu> from memory, mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[06:00] <Gosha> k, thanks, i'll try it out
[06:00] <walden> JoeMorris: that is like an utopian thought. but more people than earlier will certainly try.
[06:01] <arrick> ok gotta fix brekfast, back n a bit
[06:01] <JoeMorris> walden i dont think so tho
[06:01] <erimar77> profane, winex is the depreciated verion of cedega.. it's no longer produced or supported i belive
[06:01] <JoeMorris> walden i think everyone knows everything now
[06:01] <jdv79> how do i get the release?
[06:01] <troy> walden: ?
[06:01] <JoeMorris> and people are talking and what they know is also being assimilated
[06:01] <jdv79> i see /etc/debian_release but that's nto interesting
[06:01] <tombs> hi all
[06:01] <pr0fane> erimar77 what do i use then?
[06:01] <erimar77> well, the program isn't free
[06:01] <gnomefreak> pr0fane: wine
[06:01] <erimar77> go to www.transgaming.com
[06:02] <viruelal> olaaa
[06:02] <pr0fane> im downloading it now erimar77
[06:02] <JoeMorris> humans are just manifestations tho connected to a grid
[06:02] <jdv79> where can one find the release info on an installed box
[06:02] <xukun> arrick, any idea why its not possible to download the pdf version of that book, when I try open it just goes to a other website
[06:02] <walden> you are a borderline android, JoeMorris
[06:02] <walden> you are connected to the grid.
[06:03] <meisterli> gnomefreak: http://pastebin.com/642261
[06:03] <erimar77> profane, downloading what now
[06:03] <carthik> jdv79,  cat /etc/lsb-release
[06:03] <Atlas95> existe t'il un notificateur de mail pour evolution?
[06:03] <meisterli> but i don't beleve that'll help...
[06:03] <carthik> !fr
[06:03] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[06:03] <Atlas95> scuse me xrong channel
[06:03] <Atlas95> ;)
[06:03] <danilo> I can't connect to a new channel...where do I go? xchat, view, server, setting??
[06:03] <pr0fane> im downloading wine-x @ erimar77
[06:03] <JoeMorris> walden:  People call all of us androids
[06:03] <carthik> danilo, type /join #channel-name
[06:03] <Atlas95> do you know if on mail notifier for evoltion exist?
[06:03] <walden> danilo: /join #nameofchannel
[06:03] <JoeMorris> walden:  humans are essentially magnetic shells
[06:03] <Atlas95> evolution*
[06:03] <danilo> ok
[06:03] <danilo> thanks
[06:03] <walden> JoeMorris: that's a nice way to put it :p
[06:04] <carthik> Atlas95, mail-notification
[06:04] <danilo> join #async
[06:04] <carthik> danilo, you need the leading /
[06:04] <JoeMorris> walden we are essentially beings where we are wired into the world
[06:04] <JoeMorris> but how is the question
[06:04] <danilo> where?
[06:05] <carthik> JoeMorris, walden you could discuss that at #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[06:05] <carthik> danilo, you have to type "/join #async" (everything within the quotes)
[06:05] <walden> carthik: hehe. ok. anyway, i'm quiet about it from now. went further than i thought it would :S
[06:05] <Atlas95> I have apt*get it carthik, then...N
[06:05] <danilo> type where?
[06:05] <Atlas95> when I try to launch it nothing appears
[06:05] <carthik> danilo, just where you just now types "type where?"
[06:06] <rpalom> illooooooo k ai
[06:06] <gnomefreak> meisterli: it looks good compared to the frames but damn thats low like lower than ive ever seen  is the card ok? and while you were in the xorg file did you make sure the nvidia card was being used and everything was right?
[06:06] <erimar77> .....................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................
[06:06] <gnomefreak> erimar77: dont do that please
[06:06] <carthik> Atlas95, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-55758.html
[06:06] <walden> its his cat
[06:06] <erimar77> sorry... box fell on keyboard
[06:06] <Hulk> How to change my timezone setthings ?
[06:06] <Atlas95> thanks man
[06:06] <walden> Hulk: tzconfig
[06:06] <Hulk> walden, tkns
[06:07] <gnomefreak> Hulk: right click the clock and go to prefferences
[06:07] <carthik> Hulk, or run tzconfig
[06:07] <meisterli> gnomefreak: yeah, the card is used (nvidia logo at the start) And I should be ok since it worked about two houers ago unter winxp
[06:07] <jdv79> carthik: thanks!
[06:07] <carthik> jdv79, anytime
[06:07] <jdv79> just curious but /etc/ubuntu-release makes no sense?
[06:08] <jdv79> that's what i instinctively went for:)
[06:08] <walden> is there some way you can train mozilla thunderbird to know which are hams and spams based on my old emails?
[06:08] <walden> atleast, teach it which are hams.
[06:08] <Hulk> well, on shell mode, I ahve installed ubuntu 'server'
[06:08] <carthik> jdv79, file a bug? lol
[06:08] <giany911> how can i add something to startup like gaim xmms and xchat?
[06:08] <jdv79> ok
[06:08] <walden> Hulk: sudo tzconfig
[06:08] <erimar77> giany.. go to system-preferences- sessions -- startup
[06:08] <mkrenz> What does casper mean in the Ubuntu breezy live cd?
[06:09] <giany911> erimar77 i dont know where gaim xmms and xchat are installed ;))
[06:09] <Hulk> walden, ok, ins changed. ;)
[06:09] <walden> giany911: which gaim, which xchat
[06:09] <erimar77> just type their name when you add it.. try gaim first
[06:09] <erimar77> add -> gaim
[06:10] <giany911> yes
[06:10] <gnomefreak> meisterli: thats a hard one im not real sure what is going on you have direct rendering  so you have 3d but im wondering what teh frames are so low i mean im pushing 6000-8000 frames per 5 seconds and my card is very very low end
[06:10] <giany911> now i gotta restart?
[06:10] <walden> just logout and relogin.
[06:10] <dbarnett> I tried last night, but may as well try again today. I'm stuck with this issue http://tinyurl.com/h6kan if there is anyone who can help me
[06:10] <walden> from gnome.
[06:10] <erimar77> giany, you could log out, log in
[06:10] <walden> Hulk: what is ubuntu like as a server?
[06:10] <erimar77> to test
[06:10] <giany911> ok brb
[06:10] <arrick> walden, very good as a server
[06:11] <walden> arrick: nice. i dont even have a second machine to try it on..
[06:11] <meisterli> gnomefreak that's what's making me so confused, even since it worked some time ago in a kantonix cd version
[06:11] <arrick> I have me network setup withit walden
[06:11] <mypapit> ubuntu rawks
[06:11] <walden> arrick: nice :)
[06:11] <erimar77> the only thing with a server.. is 80% of documentation is going to be written for redhat style servers
[06:12] <giany911> works
[06:12] <giany911>  ty
[06:12] <giany911> whats the name for x-chat is it xchat x-chat or ?
[06:12] <MetaMorfoziS> anybody please tell me an easy image slicer program,not gimp. gimp can't do that i need.
[06:12] <gnomefreak> dbarnett: try runing sudo apt-get -f install
[06:12] <dbarnett> gnomefreak: triedthat
[06:12] <gnomefreak> without a package name
[06:12] <carthik> giany911, xchat
[06:12] <dbarnett> oh, ok. will try thanks
[06:12] <troy> hi i have something like sit0 in my network dev what does it represent
[06:13] <Hulk> walden, In boot of the cd you have the option to install the minimum packages.  It is the server Installation.
[06:13] <gnomefreak> its xchat
[06:13] <giany911> ty vm
[06:13] <walden> Hulk: ok. yeah, i saw that, but i installed the defaults
[06:13] <carthik> troy, it is an IPv6-in-IPv4 tunnel
[06:14] <remavalu> it
[06:14] <remavalu> #ubuntu-it
[06:14] <troy> carthik: what does it represent
[06:14] <salt_> may i ask how to config my ubuntu like a proxy server ? my workstation is winxp
[06:14] <remavalu> hi---- which is italian channel?
[06:14] <MetaMorfoziS> !it
[06:14] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[06:14] <troy> carthik: function
[06:14] <remavalu> ;)
[06:15] <darkhorizon> someday i hope to have all the answers like ubotu
[06:15] <walden> is there a typing tutor like application?
[06:15] <carthik> troy, it is used to open ipv6 connections on the internet. please read http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/other-formats/html_single/Linux+IPv6-HOWTO.html for more info
[06:15] <walden> which will allow me to quicken my typing and stuff? and make it error free?
[06:15] <darkhorizon> walden: irc chat
[06:15] <darkhorizon> :)
[06:15] <Hulk> walden, i'm trying to use ubuntu for server.
[06:15] <walden> darkhorizon: bah
[06:15] <gnomefreak> walden: practice
[06:15] <walden> ok.
[06:15] <dbarnett> darkhorizon: irc is a horrible place to learn spelling
[06:15] <mcmillen> i'm trying to downgrade mysql 5.0 -> 4.1 after a breezy->dapper upgrade. however, i get an error from dpkg about "Aborting downgrade from 5.0 to 4.1". i tried running dpkg -i --force-downgrade, but the error doesn't go away. any pointers / ideas?
[06:15] <walden> or grammar.
[06:15] <serengeti> walden search for it in synaptic I've seen something like this
[06:15] <serengeti> but don't remember name
[06:16] <darkhorizon> i learned using icq :-\
[06:16] <walden> serengeti: ok. lemme try
[06:16] <gnomefreak> mcmillen: you cant dapper comes with 5.0 iirc
[06:16] <carthik> walden, there are many, open synaptic and search for "typing tutor" in "Name and Description"
[06:16] <walden> serengeti: ktouch. just found one
[06:16] <stochastic> what's the command to run an alsa configurator? in ubuntu breezy?
[06:16] <walden> carthik: ok
[06:16] <salt_> darkhorizon : do you know where can I look for help to configure ubuntu as proxy server ??
[06:17] <darkhorizon> salt_ ... have you looked into squid?
[06:17] <troy> switching to linux box be back soonm
[06:17] <gnomefreak> mcmillen: you can either find a deb for 4.1 and remove the one you have install that or install breezy again
[06:17] <salt_> darkhorizon : squid ? whats that ?
[06:17] <walden> wow. i said apt-get install ktouch and it is installong something called kdeedu
[06:17] <walden> stupid names.
[06:17] <darkhorizon> salt_: a cache/proxy server :)
[06:17] <dbarnett> salt_: http://www.squid-cache.org/
[06:17] <carthik> walden, I use the command $apt-cache search typing | grep tutor  and $apt-cache search typing | grep learn though :)
[06:18] <serengeti> walden I remember now, the thing that my sister used is called gtypist
[06:18] <serengeti> :)
[06:18] <walden> carthik: yup. i used apt-cache search typing tutor
[06:18] <salt_> darkhorizon: ooohh... thanks i'll look for that, thanks a lot
[06:18] <bunniears> Hi guys, i've used ubuntu for some time now without major problems. I've just tried to install it on an old computer and the message "the ext3 file system creation in partition #1 of ide1 master (hda) failed." has come up, any ideas =) ?
[06:18] <darkhorizon> np
[06:18] <darkhorizon> good luck too
[06:18] <walden> serengeti: ty, will install that too. saw it on the list, but didn't put it for download.
[06:18] <serengeti> it's a console app
[06:18] <carthik> walden, since the search searches for hte entire string you list, I use one word then | grep the other word
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> bunniears,  this was during the install?
[06:18] <MenZa> Is it possible to have irssi join certain channels when connecting to specific networks?
[06:18] <walden> carthik: oh. yeah.makes sense.
[06:18] <salt_> dbarnett: thanks !!
[06:18] <walden> let me do that now
[06:19] <MenZa> !irssi
[06:19] <ubotu> well, irssi is http://f0rked.com/core/irssi
[06:19] <bunniears> dr_Willis, yep
[06:19] <salt_> darkhorizon : do i have to touch de iptables ?
[06:19] <darkhorizon> salt: you'd have to open the port on the interface which accepts the proxy connections
[06:20] <darkhorizon> but i have never installed it myself, i can only recommend googling for a tutorial on it
[06:20] <gnomefreak> thats not irssi's site :(
[06:20] <salt_> darkhorizon : right now i have the ubuntu an Xp pinging each other, how do i open the port ?
[06:20] <walden> hm. there aren't that many typing tutors..
[06:20] <walden> but yeah. good.
[06:20] <gnomefreak> walden: no there isnt
[06:20] <dbarnett> walden: how many do you need:)
[06:20] <gnomefreak> lol
[06:20] <walden> lol just one good one.
[06:20] <walden> ktouch is nice. beginning to like it :D
[06:21] <dbarnett> anyone know of a text based irc client that supports python scripting?
[06:21] <darkhorizon> salt, i would install the server first, then worry about the firewall if your ruleset is inadequate
[06:21] <gnomefreak> walden: edubuntu-desktop has a few in it
[06:21] <funkenstein> hi ther
[06:21] <funkenstein> e
[06:21] <funkenstein> does anyone know how to mount a .daa cd image file?
[06:21] <salt_> darkhorizon: ok thanks, you guys are great !! i'll try squid ....
[06:22] <serengeti> I'm trying to set up irda on my thinkpad t42 and well, there are so many howtos and they all seem to contradict one another :)
[06:22] <darkhorizon> salt, good luck :)
[06:23] <bunniears> Dr_Willis, any ideas :S ?
[06:23] <salt_> darkhorizon, thanks :)
[06:23] <serengeti> please tell me if i'm doing the right thing: i installed irda-utils, modprobed irda and ircomm-tty
[06:24] <serengeti> chmodded 666 /dev/ir*
[06:24] <walden> do you know wat tools to install for bluetooth? i haven't been able to set that up on hte laptop.
[06:24] <serengeti> and now irdadump shows nothing when I wave my siemens me45 in front of the irda transmitter of my thinkpad
[06:24] <DeadS0ul> bluez
[06:24] <serengeti> any clues?
[06:25] <bridley> how do you use this
[06:25] <DeadS0ul> do apt-cache search bluetooth
[06:25] <walden> DeadS0ul: ok.
[06:25] <walden> makes sense.
[06:25] <azertyuuu> how can i re-install nvidia-kernel with commandline ? i deleted them by mistake  and i get the error "Could not open /lib/modules/2.6.5-1-586tsc/nvidia/nvidia.ko" , my X doesn't start now please help
[06:25] <robinmdh> what is a good console irc ap (to run in a screen) wich suports multiple chanels?
[06:25] <walden> robinmdh: bitchx, irssi
[06:26] <robinmdh> thx
[06:26] <kholed> hellow to all
[06:27] <kholed> i have a problem with vmlinux
[06:27] <meisterli> Ok, another problem: in apt-get are many (for me) important programs missing for exemple xine. Where can I get more sources for packages?
[06:27] <darkhorizon> meisterli, edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:27] <darkhorizon> uncomment the lines which have sources commented out with a #
[06:27] <kholed> Inconsistent kallsyms data
[06:27] <kholed> Try setting CONFIG_KALLSYMS_EXTRA_PASS
[06:27] <kholed> make: *** [vmlinux]  Error 1
[06:27] <darkhorizon> then run sudo apt-get update
[06:27] <carthik> meisterli, you need to add the universe and multiverse repositories s
[06:28] <meisterli> yeah, i knew that, but what should i add?
[06:28] <funkenstein> kholed, try going to http://easylinux.info
[06:28] <carthik> !tell meisterli about Universe
[06:28] <kholed> oke, thanks
[06:28] <funkenstein> sorry, that was directed to meisterli
[06:28] <funkenstein> but you're welcome ;)
[06:28] <meisterli> thanks :)
[06:28] <salt_> darkhorizon: do you know, what is the default password for user : root ??
[06:29] <frank_> !sudo
[06:29] <ubotu> I guess sudo is a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[06:29] <darkhorizon> salt, none initially... try sudo passwd to set it
[06:29] <arrick> ok im back
[06:29] <bunniears> Hi guys, i've used ubuntu for some time now without major problems. I've just tried to install it on an old computer and the message "the ext3 file system creation in partition #1 of ide1 master (hda) failed." has come up, any ideas =) ?
[06:30] <billytwowilly> So, when I upgrade my server I'll have a spare micro-atx mobo, athlonxp 2700, 2*120 GB drives. Any suggestions on a cool project to do with them?
[06:30] <Seveas> billytwowilly, get a second hand case and plant them in there 
[06:30] <serengeti> bunniears, have you checked your hdd for bad sectors?
[06:31] <stochastic> help, I've installed alsa-utils but I can't seem to find the app alsaconf
[06:31] <bunniears> serengeti, no? how do i do that ;)?
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> bunniears,  if this is during the install. you may want to check the alt-f4 (f5?) console and see if theres any error messages.. or fdisk and format the drive manually.
[06:31] <walden> Seveas: hey thanks. i installed the jre from your archive. works great :)
[06:31] <billytwowilly> Seveas, I'll have a spare case as well, I'm looking for interesting project ideas though. I was thinking car mp3/video player, but a touchscreen lcd is expensive and I don't drive enough.
[06:31] <troytroy> hi what device is referred to by sit0?
[06:31] <MetaMorfoziS> anybody please tell me an easy image slicer program,not gimp. gimp can't do that i need.
[06:31] <erimar77> is there a way for xchat to connect to like 2~3 channels that i frequent at the same time
[06:31] <bunniears> i'll try fdisk it, i've formatted it though :/
[06:31] <ReD_BuLLeT> gimp can all
[06:32] <ReD_BuLLeT> :)
[06:32] <erimar77> what about imagemagic?
[06:32] <MetaMorfoziS> imagemagic?
[06:32] <MetaMorfoziS> i'm try
[06:32] <MetaMorfoziS> moment
[06:32] <kholed> funkenstein i can't fined any info about this problem: Inconsistent kallsyms data
[06:32] <kholed> Try setting CONFIG_KALLSYMS_EXTRA_PASS
[06:32] <kholed> make: *** [vmlinux]  Error 1
[06:32] <graveson> can someone help me with dvdrecord . If i do a scanbus i cannot pick up my internal cd/dev drive ,only the external drive
[06:32] <MetaMorfoziS> hm
[06:32] <walden> erimar77: xchat, server list, choose the network, then choose edit, you'll figure it out
[06:33] <MetaMorfoziS> it's not a commandline aps?
[06:33] <MetaMorfoziS> app
[06:33] <MetaMorfoziS> ReD_BuLLeT: not.
[06:33] <billytwowilly> erimar77,  in the servers page, click edit, then put the  channels you want in the channels  to join section seperated by a  comma with no spaces
[06:33] <billytwowilly> walden beat me to it;)
[06:33] <erimar77> thanks billy
[06:33] <MetaMorfoziS> ReD_BuLLeT: can't make a coffe for me, and can't slice useful
[06:33] <walden> lol
[06:33] <erimar77> thanks walden
[06:33] <billytwowilly> lol
[06:34] <ReD_BuLLeT> :( i really sorry ask other about other program
[06:34] <ReD_BuLLeT> i can't help u :(
[06:34] <giany911> can u guys help me with azureus
[06:34] <MetaMorfoziS> :(
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> !azureus
[06:34] <ubotu> azureus is, like, a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[06:34] <billytwowilly> giany911, #azureus-support
[06:35] <MenZa> Umm.. in irssi, how do I select channels number 10, 11, 12 - etc.?
[06:35] <giany911> i got a error when updating from 2.3 to 2.4
[06:35] <jbroome> MenZa: you can do /window 10
[06:35] <Hulk> p2p program kept by ubuntu ??
[06:35] <MetaMorfoziS> imagemagic is not a gui program?
[06:35] <arrick> is ubugtu A bot?
[06:35] <MenZa> jbroome: thank you.
[06:36] <jbroome> MenZa: window 11 starts at alt-q and goes up from there
[06:36] <jbroome> also
[06:36] <ReD_BuLLeT> where is the repos file
[06:36] <ReD_BuLLeT> ?
[06:36] <erimar77> redbullet, you mean /etc/apt/sources.list  ?
[06:36] <Master_Kale> about how long does it take for Ubuntu to ship out their CD's?
[06:37] <erimar77> sorry MetaMorfoziS, try InkScape
[06:37] <erimar77> i don't know where my brain was
[06:37] <MetaMorfoziS> inkscape is a vector graphic tool
[06:37] <erimar77> like 6~10 weeks
[06:37] <MetaMorfoziS> it can't slice
[06:37] <MetaMorfoziS> it hink
[06:37] <erimar77> i've never tried it
[06:37] <troytroy> hi does anyone no a channel concerned bout telecomunication
[06:37] <MetaMorfoziS> i've use it a days ago
[06:37] <MetaMorfoziS> it's a cool program but can'T slice it
[06:38] <MetaMorfoziS> (i need slice my image created with inkscape) :D
[06:38] <Hulk> p2p program kept by ubuntu ??
[06:38] <funkenstein> kholed, as I said, I responded to the wrong person... sorry... :$
[06:38] <Davey|Work> MetaMorfoziS, mind paying $32 for a photoshop clone?
[06:38] <Davey|Work> MetaMorfoziS, http://www.kanzelsberger.com/pixel/?page_id=12 looks awesome, grab the demo :)
[06:39] <Davey|Work> MetaMorfoziS, otherwise you're stuck with GIMP
[06:39] <MetaMorfoziS> i'm not on linux for pay anything.
[06:39] <MetaMorfoziS> so i'm go and sucking with gimp
[06:40] <chrismi> hello! i'm having problems connecting to my WLAN with WPA-PSK despite having tried several HowTos. Are there any experts on the subjects here with a few minutes to spare? :)
[06:40] <MetaMorfoziS> it can slice, but has very poor options
[06:40] <Davey|Work> MetaMorfoziS, you get what you pay for ;)
[06:42] <billytwowilly> is there any opensource software available to pump data to displays on multiple networked computers? Info like caller id?
[06:42] <serengeti> have anyone here configured irda succesfully and would like to help me get the thing to work? :)
[06:42] <chrismi> are there any WPA gurus here with a couple of minutes to spare?
[06:43] <Dr_Willis> billytwowilly,   proberly 100 ways to do that. :P
[06:43] <serprime> hi.. i've installed badwm, and now i don't know how to tell gdm to load it. can someone help me pls
[06:43] <arrick> gotta get to school, bbnb
[06:44] <billytwowilly> Dr_Willis,  is there any software that makes it easy? Ideally, it'd be easy to use and support multiple data inputs  and multiple computers to pump data to.
[06:44] <ReD_BuLLeT> with witch program i can connect to internet with terminal
[06:44] <fromvega> Hello, where do I configure the allowed servers for SSH?
[06:44] <ReD_BuLLeT> ?
[06:44] <riddlebox> is xmldoc available in apt-get?
[06:44] <riddlebox> I am not at my ubuntu pc right now
[06:45] <harisund> fromvega what do you mean by allowed servers?
[06:45] <ReD_BuLLeT> please tell me how can connect to te internet throught terminal
[06:45] <ReD_BuLLeT> ?
[06:45] <fromvega> harisund: When I try to connect local it connects but when I try using the ip number it refuses the connection.
[06:45] <riddlebox> ReD_BuLLeT, you mean surf webpages?
[06:45] <harisund> fromvega: What kind of a internet connection do you have?
[06:46] <ReD_BuLLeT> yes
[06:46] <ReD_BuLLeT> links
[06:46] <harisund> fromvega: Are you using some form of a router?
[06:46] <ReD_BuLLeT> and lynx
[06:46] <gnomefreak> ReD_BuLLeT: w3m www.whatever.com
[06:46] <riddlebox> ReD_BuLLeT, probably sudo apt-get install lynx
[06:46] <fromvega> harisund: yes, but I have mapped the port
[06:46] <gnomefreak> ReD_BuLLeT: w3m is installed by default or you can sudo apt-get install lynx or sudo apt-get install links2
[06:46] <neuwald> hi folks
[06:47] <neuwald> I'm making a script to customize all my ubuntu workstations
[06:47] <ReD_BuLLeT> gnomefreak,
[06:47] <neuwald> and in this script I install packages and have to do a lot of configurations
[06:47] <gnomefreak> ReD_BuLLeT: ?
[06:47] <ReD_BuLLeT> i thank u
[06:47] <neuwald> and the first question is:
[06:47] <harisund> fromvega: If you have modified your router to do port forwarding, then I would check to make sure the ports are forwarded to the correct IP (the local IP of your computer)
[06:47] <neuwald> 1. there is any place where I can configure globally the settings of mozilla firefox?
[06:48] <gnomefreak> yw btw ReD_BuLLeT if you install links2 you can run it either links2 www.whatever or you can do links -g www.blah ;)
[06:48] <ReD_BuLLeT> :)
[06:48] <ReD_BuLLeT> how can i install ati drivers
[06:48] <ReD_BuLLeT> :(
[06:48] <gnomefreak> links -g = graphical text mode ;)
[06:48] <gnomefreak> !ati
[06:48] <ubotu> [ati]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[06:48] <gnomefreak> ^^^ ReD_BuLLeT
[06:48] <bettan> nej nu blir jag trr varfr vill inte sudo kommandon fungera som de ska?
[06:48] <ReD_BuLLeT> bettan, ok
[06:48] <ReD_BuLLeT> i think same
[06:49] <ReD_BuLLeT> :)
[06:49] <vegeta_> hi
[06:49] <fromvega> harisund: other ports are working right, I think it's working. So, doesn't SSH have an allowed hosts directive or something like this?
[06:50] <bettan> men hur ndrar jag s att jag fr svenska  i xfce?
[06:50] <duelboot> chrismi, any help yet?
[06:51] <serengeti> !irda
[06:51] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, serengeti
[06:51] <sfar> bettan, english in here please
[06:51] <sfar> !se
[06:51] <ubotu> Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu.se resp. #kubuntu.se
[06:51] <serprime> !gdm
[06:51] <ubotu> serprime: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:51] <pr0fane> hellow how do i add a deb source file in ubuntu?
[06:51] <bettan> lol wrong kanal :o
[06:51] <pr0fane> hellow how do i add a deb source file in ubuntu?
[06:52] <duelboot> pr0fane, if I understand you correctly "dpkg -i <filename.deb>
[06:53] <pr0fane> duelboot i want to install winehq
[06:53] <pr0fane> :)
[06:53] <pr0fane> through package manager
[06:53] <pr0fane> how do i do that?
[06:54] <duelboot> pr0fane, add the winehq to source...don't have it at the moment, then it should appear in synaptic
[06:54] <riddlebox> can someone tell me if XMLDoc is a package in apt-get?
[06:54] <N3m^> should i install the 686 or the 686-smp kernel image for an intel core duo processor?
[06:54] <simonpca> test it! ;-)
[06:56] <darkhorizon|afk> i'm outta here, folks... be excellent to each other
[06:57] <picasso> hey. does anyone here ever use MLB.tv stuff through ubuntu?
[06:57] <fromvega> harisund: I configured SSH to port 2222, and mapped this port to my Ubuntu machine.
[06:57] <Ramanar> hello everybody! I have had troubles making DRI to work for a S3/ProsavageDDR-K and ubuntu-breezy, anyone has any experience with that? thanks.
[06:57] <picasso> or does anyone know what the best firefox plugin would be to do streaming audio/video ?
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> picasso,  i tend to use the vlc one.
[06:58] <picasso> have you used w/ mlb tv?
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> picasso,  but i find i have MUCH better luck just downloading the files and playing them.
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> picasso, no.. and i never will :P
[06:58] <picasso> right, that doesn't work for live streaming files though
[06:58] <picasso> it worked last year on fedora, don't remember what plugin i was using
[06:58] <lillpelle> mplayerplug-in or what it is called is very nice
[06:59] <Dr_Willis> vlc, xine, mplayer are the 3 major ones.
[06:59] <giany911> guys
[06:59] <giany911> problems with azureus
[06:59] <giany911> i cant update from 2.3 to 2.4
[07:00] <konstantyn> hi
[07:00] <neuwald> there is something equivalent as kiosk for gnome ?
[07:01] <konstantyn> g
[07:02] <Dr_Willis> giany911,  you are referng to the azureus auto-update feature?
[07:03] <giany911> yes
[07:03] <giany911> it screwed up azureus
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> giany911,  correct - it dont work right.. let me guess.. your menu items/text are gone?
[07:03] <_trojan_> I am a bit confused with the instructions to install the nvidia IA32 driver.  Has anyone done this process?
[07:04] <giany911> well they were displayed with a ! and funny looking
[07:04] <Hulk> make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/build: file not found , wy ?? i ahve instaled buid-essentials.
[07:04] <simonpca> ++
[07:04] <giany911> after about to installs and uninstalls azureus wont start at all
[07:04] <giany911> *to meaning 2
[07:05] <jumongri> helloo!!
[07:05] <Hulk> make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/build: file not found , wy ?? i ahve instaled buid-essentials.
[07:06] <funkenstein> hey, I'm trying to change permissions visually on my usb drive - rightclick/properties/permissions and change it so that other users can read/write...
[07:06] <giany911> dr_willis so what do i do ? "
[07:06] <funkenstein> but it tells me I am not the file owner, although it has my username at the top
[07:07] <Dr_Willis> giany911,  totally close azaurus. make sure its not in the system tray.
[07:07] <funkenstein> and it lets me mount/unmount it too...
[07:07] <giany911> yes go on
[07:07] <Dr_Willis> giany911,  and either restart it and see if it works.. or install it on a PER user basis.
[07:07] <Dr_Willis> giany911,  or just dont use the auto-update thing. :P
[07:08] <giany911> i will not if i can get it to start
[07:08] <Dr_Willis> be sure its totally exited perhaps even logout and back on.
[07:08] <Dr_Willis> it can be a little odd at times
[07:09] <ReD_BuLLeT> how can i install .run driver file
[07:09] <ReD_BuLLeT> ?
[07:09] <funkenstein> ReD_BuLLeT, ./<filename>.run
[07:10] <funkenstein> ReD_BuLLeT, in a command line
[07:10] <ReD_BuLLeT> 10x
[07:10] <dwight> i trying to burn some some oggs with gnomebaker but its telling me I dont have the right plugin installed.
[07:10] <funkenstein> ReD_BuLLeT, depending on the file, you might have to put a sudo in front of it...
[07:10] <dwight> what plugin should i install?
[07:10] <ReD_BuLLeT> of course
[07:10] <ReD_BuLLeT> ..
[07:10] <funkenstein> ReD_BuLLeT, but try withohut first...
[07:10] <funkenstein> ;)
[07:11] <ReD_BuLLeT> mm i think for drivers i strongly recomended to use sudo
[07:11] <funkenstein> AAAARGH!!!!
[07:11] <giany911> dr_willis ...i logged out ..azureus still wont start:))
[07:12] <Dr_Willis> delete your .azurus or .Azurus dirs perhaps.
[07:12] <Dr_Willis> It alwyas recovered for me when ever i messed withit
[07:12] <funkenstein> I don't get it?!?!? My usb hard disk won't change permissions - I do it visually, and the check just disappears. I do it via the cli chmod -R 777 /media/usb/ and NOTHING happens?!?!?! How do I change it?!?!?
[07:13] <giany911> when i completely remove azureus from synaptic will it remove dependecies also ?
[07:13] <FlannelKing> what depends on azureus?
[07:13] <giany911> the other way
[07:13] <giany911> what azureus depends on :))
[07:13] <polpak> funkenstein, what are you trying to do exactly?
[07:13] <FlannelKing> oh, no.  it won't,
[07:13] <giany911> jre and stuff
[07:13] <funkenstein> let alone the fact that it won't let me rename it, and the name is stuck as  x__^W^____
[07:13] <polpak> funkenstein, and what fs type does it use
[07:13] <troytroy> hi does anyone no where to get this ebook (CProgramming for the Absolute Beginner)
[07:14] <Dr_Willis> giany911,  i ment the .azurus config dirs
[07:14] <giany911> dr_willis ..where are those dirs?
[07:14] <funkenstein> polpak, I'm trying to allow everyone read/write access to my usb drive. It uses FAT 32 cuz it also needs to talk with windows machines
[07:14] <serge> troytroy, umm, probably not ment to tell you this but www.thepiratebay.com - If i get booted for this then :P
[07:14] <Dr_Willis> giany911,  in the users home dir of course.. with all the other .CONFIGTYPEDIRS
[07:14] <polpak> troytroy, is this for a class, or just for personal edification?
[07:14] <Dr_Willis> :)
[07:14] <Dr_Willis> note the . at the start
[07:15] <giany911> i found a .azureus even though azureus is uninstalled
[07:15] <giany911> do i delete this ?
[07:15] <troytroy> for my lil brother
[07:15] <polpak> funkenstein, you need to specify the proper options when the drive is mounted then
[07:15] <polpak> funkenstein, you can't change the permissions on it because it doesn't support unix permissions
[07:15] <serge> troytroy, do you know about torrents?
[07:15] <Dr_Willis> giany911,  its a CONFIG dir for your user.. uninstalling a program wont search through the users home dirs..
[07:15] <jadams> I was does anyone know of a good tool to convert PDFs to JPEGs?
[07:15] <polpak> funkenstein, so the permissions are set when it's mounted and cannot be changed
[07:16] <funkenstein> polpak, uh huh.... hang on then, I'll paste my fstab in the pastebin...
[07:16] <giany911> man
[07:16] <troytroy> serge: yes
[07:16] <giany911> in home i found a .azureus folder
[07:16] <Dr_Willis> giany911,  there was no need to Uninstall azurus :P that i know of.
[07:16] <serge> troytroy, then search for it using thepiratebay.com
[07:16] <troytroy> serge: u have a copy
[07:16] <giany911> do i delelte it ?
[07:16] <Dr_Willis> you are reseting the users configs
[07:16] <roryy> jadams: i'd guess 'convert' from imagemagick (not sure about 'good', but i imagine it can do it)
[07:16] <giany911> a
[07:16] <serge> troytroy, no but I could probably find it
[07:16] <Dr_Willis> Delete the *)#$*(&#(&*)#*()# thing for the 99th time!
[07:16] <polpak> troytroy, if you want to learn c programming I know of a decent site
[07:16] <Dr_Willis> :P
[07:16] <giany911> its gone
[07:17] <giany911> reinstalling it now
[07:17] <giany911> :)
[07:17] <troytroy> polpak: where
[07:17] <giany911> still NOT starting
[07:17] <giany911> X(X(X(
[07:17] <Dr_Willis> there was no need to UNinstall it.. Unless you ran the thing as root and tried to update it as root
[07:17] <troytroy> serge: could u search the torrent for me now
[07:17] <polpak> troytroy,  http://www.cs.cf.ac.uk/Dave/C/node4.html#SECTION00400000000000000000
[07:17] <serge> troytroy, i am, and it's just not there sorry
[07:17] <giany911> dr_willis wait ..i see a problem
[07:18] <ReD_BuLLeT> are there debian skype .deb ?
[07:18] <polpak> troytroy, it starts with the basics, and goes from there.. It's fairly comprehensive
[07:18] <giany911> if i run it from the console
[07:18] <giany911> i get a error
[07:18] <polpak> !tell ReD_BuLLeT about skype
[07:18] <carthik> ReD_BuLLeT, there is one in the seveas repos I hear
[07:18] <Dr_Willis> I always run it from the shell :P
[07:18] <giany911> http://pastebin.com/642425
[07:18] <funkenstein> polpak, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11536 ... but ofcourse it doesn't have the usbdrive line...
[07:18] <giany911> whats this ... ?
[07:18] <funkenstein> :(
[07:19] <Dr_Willis> swt-pi-gtk-3139 in java.library.path
[07:19] <troytroy> serge: ok
[07:19] <polpak> funkenstein, that's probably because it's being auto mounted via the hotplug stuff right?
[07:19] <Dr_Willis> giany911,  try making a new user and starting azarus as that user and see if it works.
[07:19] <giany911> dr_willis good or bad?
[07:19] <troytroy> polpak: i need st ofline for my lil bro
[07:19] <Dr_Willis> or time to switch to other bittorrent clients. :P OR go download it from the azurus homepage and install it for that user.
[07:19] <tooleh> Hey, I have a semi-serious problem !!
[07:20] <giany911> brb dr_willis dont go anywhere
[07:20] <funkenstein> polpak, yeah...
[07:20] <Dr_Willis> !azarueus
[07:20] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Dr_Willis
[07:20] <tooleh> Its to do with networking - is anyone there?
[07:20] <Dr_Willis> I can never spell that thing right
[07:20] <tooleh> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=155608 << There's the thread, noone has replied as yet though, thread is just bombing down the page :(
[07:21] <funkenstein> polpak, I'm also worried at the fact that it's called "x__^W^____" and not something more reasonable like usbdisk
[07:21] <IceTox> Where is the firewall located in ubuntu?
[07:21] <tooleh> Is anyone actualy there?
[07:21] <giany911> dr_willis
[07:22] <giany911> still here?
[07:22] <giany911> it works on another user so ... how can i get it to run on my basic user
[07:22] <giany911> no no firewall
[07:22] <carthik> funkenstein, bug 27897 is similar, add to it if you please
[07:22] <vge> what do i need to add to kernel so bootloader works?
[07:22] <roryy> !tell IceTox about firewall
[07:22] <giany911> dr_willis man ... u left me hanging
[07:22] <IceTox> giany911, I'm not allowed to retrieve files at amsn you see...
[07:22] <funkenstein> carthik, how do I do that ?? :$
[07:22] <giany911> icetox are u using gaim ?
[07:23] <vge> now i get blank screen untill it boots to window manager?
[07:23] <serge> !tell Serge about ubuntu
[07:23] <erimar77> tooleh, can you do sudo /etc/init.d/network restart   to get your internet working again after it dies?
[07:23] <IceTox> NoOnEx, I'm using amsn giany911
[07:23] <serge> wow, thats a good bot there lol
[07:23] <IceTox> thanks roryy.. I'll try that firestarter :-)
[07:23] <_|iNuX_> i get the torrent file, but they never start to download...
[07:23] <giany911> well i dont know ..i just know ubuntu doesnt have a firewall
[07:23] <carthik> funkenstein, go to launchpad: http://launchpad.net/bugs/27897 and add your comment/logs etc
[07:23] <tooleh> erimar77: I will try this - I'll go and login to ubuntu right now and get back on IRC - I'll /msg you
[07:23] <roryy> IceTox: by default the firewall is *not* enabled
[07:23] <tooleh> :)
[07:24] <serge> !tell StyleUK about sex
[07:24] <_|iNuX_> and then say "problem with tracker"
[07:24] <funkenstein> carthik, k thanks
[07:24] <IceTox> seems so giany911.. It's included in kernel..
[07:24] <serge> :(
[07:24] <giany911> icetox i havent found one yet but im a newbie maybe im not the best one to answer at this
[07:24] <wx9j> any parameters needed after the name beep when changing from the default player  ?
[07:24] <IceTox> roryy, do you know if there's any other reason to why I can't send and recieve files on msn then? I don't get the problem using my windows computer.
[07:24] <IceTox> giany911, we all start somewhere, don't we? :-)
[07:25] <giany911> icetox yes
[07:25] <giany911> :D
[07:25] <giany911> dr_willis
[07:25] <giany911> icetox are u good with ubuntu ?
[07:25] <Linuturk> I'm about to boot to 5.10 live cd on a thinkpad 600. will Ubuntu automatically have access to a FAT32 partition (read and write access?) and, can I load up a usb stick on ubuntu and read and write from it?
[07:25] <giany911> or any linux whatsoever
[07:25] <Dr_Willis> !azureushmm?
[07:25] <roryy> IceTox: i don't know; it's possible that gaim (or whatever client you're using) doesn't support that.
[07:25] <ubotu> Dr_Willis: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:25] <Dr_Willis> !azureus
[07:25] <ubotu> from memory, azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[07:25] <giany911> dr_willis eee it works
[07:25] <zeeble> hiya.
[07:25] <giany911> on another user
[07:26] <giany911> so what do i need to do to make it work on my basic user?
[07:26] <IceTox> giany911, I've been using debian. ubuntu is new to. All though there are very much similarities..
[07:26] <zeeble> can anyone who uses skype just give me a buzz.. want to check if sound and stuffworks fine with it
[07:26] <Dr_Willis> giany911,  that imples that its some config file you need to cleanout/remove
[07:26] <Dr_Willis> giany911,  see if theres a .Azarus (or whatever als0)
[07:26] <giany911> well what config files?:D
[07:26] <IceTox> roryy, it does. It's amsn, and it does support recieve and send of files and it works really good at my debian computer. Guess it has something to do with ubuntu then.
[07:26] <Dr_Willis> use your file amanager and eyes and look and see.
[07:26] <giany911> dr_willis i have a .azureus in home
[07:27] <Linuturk> does ubuntu work well with usb flash drives?
[07:27] <Azertyuuu> hey all, how can i imrpove my bootimes
[07:27] <Azertyuuu> *boottimes
[07:27] <Dr_Willis> Linuturk,  work in what way? :P it read/writes tehm fine.
[07:29] <Linuturk> Dr_Willis: how about hot swapping them?
[07:29] <tooleh> erimar77: Hi - what was the command you suggested?
[07:29] <erimar77> /etc/init.d/network restart
[07:29] <giany911> dr_willis ..do i delete this .azureus ?
[07:29] <Dr_Willis> giany911,   you deleted that earlier correct?
[07:29] <giany911> dr_willis yep
[07:29] <erimar77> how long does it take to die?
[07:29] <Dr_Willis> Linuturk,  you want to unmount them first.
[07:29] <giany911> dr_willis its here again
[07:29] <Dr_Willis> giany911,  could try again i guess also there may be a .java
[07:29] <giany911> deleted it again and hooray works
[07:29] <giany911> now about the funny menus with ! do u know anything ?
[07:29] <ReD_BuLLeT> how can i install every files from xfce with one command
[07:29] <ReD_BuLLeT> apt-get install xfce4 ???
[07:30] <erimar77> tooleh, you still there?
[07:30] <zeeble> ReD_BuLLeT: apt-get instal xubuntu-desktop
[07:30] <zeeble> *instll
[07:30] <zeeble> crap
[07:30] <zeeble> apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[07:31] <roryy> installing xfce4 works too; possibly a substantially smaller download
[07:32] <polpak> funkenstein, ok
[07:32] <BoneE> it there a way to play a video as a wallpaper
[07:32] <polpak> funkenstein, I think I have a possible solution
[07:32] <Menu> Hi.
[07:32] <Linuturk> i won't be getting blazing speeds with a 233mhz and gnome, will i?
[07:32] <Menu> What about installing themes to Mozilla Firefox?
[07:32] <serge> Linuturk, no.
[07:33] <polpak> Menu, what about it?
[07:33] <Linuturk> serge: will it be useable ?
[07:33] <serge> Linuturk, i've never tryed, give it ago, if it does'nt then just remove it :)
[07:33] <Menu> polpak, how can i do it? When i download theme.jar it suggests that i want to open it with default package manager...
[07:34] <nickrud> Linuturk, no, it won't be (it was almost unbearable on a 466). You might like xubuntu-desktop, it's a lot lighter
[07:34] <dead> hi
[07:34] <serge> nickrud, is that like fluxbox?
[07:34] <erimar77> howdy dead
[07:34] <serge> or lighter still?
[07:34] <nickrud> serge, heavier, but not much
[07:34] <Linuturk> nickrud: how do I do that? this is a live cd, and I don't have the option to install it on the harddrive. Nor do I have net access yet
[07:35] <serge> oki
[07:35] <dead> thanx. i'm dead =)
[07:35] <nickrud> Linuturk, you could have someone download the xubuntu cd for you
[07:35] <serge> Linuturk, then you wont be able to install Ubuntu using the live CD with no net. Well at least I dont think you will
[07:36] <Linuturk> nickrud: you are talking about XFCE right? I didn't know they had finally made that.
[07:36] <nickrud> Linuturk, there's a release based on flight 6
[07:36] <Linuturk> serge: I'm not trying to install. I'm trying to recover files from a windows fat32 partition
[07:36] <serge> ah I see
[07:36] <nickrud> Linuturk, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XubuntuReleases
[07:37] <Linuturk> nickrud: i see, but there aren't any live cd's for xubuntu
[07:37] <nexus> hi all
[07:37] <Linuturk> i'll have to slush through gnome
[07:38] <pc_> hi, i just replaced my
[07:38] <pc_> s3 with a geforce, X works but glxgears and tuxracer just segfault..
[07:38] <nickrud> Linuturk, true. However, you can use the command line in a virtual console. Skip gnome and all the desktop :)
[07:38] <Linuturk> i don't know command line well enough :-/
[07:38] <funkenstein> good news folks! Well, I feel kinda dim: needed to unplug/replug the usb drive to gain access to it. Seems the permissions are set according the the person who mounted the usb drive first. *sigh*
[07:39] <funkenstein> polpak, thanks for your help!
[07:39] <Menu> So...?
[07:39] <nickrud> Linuturk, cd (change dir) and cp (copy) for basic file recovery
[07:39] <saskia> funkenstein: with root u can assign user's id for the owner of the mounted
[07:39] <nexus> has anyone experiences with wine?
[07:39] <polpak> nexus, yes
[07:40] <funkenstein> nope
[07:40] <saskia> wine.. better reboot and boot your M$ instead
[07:40] <nexus> hi polpak, can you tell me if it is normall that the donwload took so long?
[07:40] <funkenstein> saskia, sorry, it's FAT32
[07:40] <nexus> im from germany and i got dsl100
[07:40] <funkenstein> saskia, can't assign *anything*
[07:40] <funkenstein> :'(
[07:40] <Linuturk> it's taken gnome about 10 minutes to load up (still not finished) but it looks useable
[07:41] <nexus> but im downloading since 15-20 min
[07:41] <polpak> nexus, it's normal
[07:41] <nexus> ok
[07:41] <polpak> nexus, from winehq?
[07:41] <nexus> yes
[07:41] <saskia> funkenstein: any fs are ok, just need to assign uid on your mount command
[07:41] <nexus> do you know a better source?
[07:41] <polpak> nexus, yeah, they use sourceforge and some of the mirrors are terrible
[07:41] <polpak> nexus, not really..
[07:42] <nexus> ok, than it seams like im on the save side
[07:42] <gnomefreak> good thing i didnt file a bug on update-notifier ;)
[07:42] <nexus> where r u from, polpak
[07:42] <saskia> funkenstein: make sure the mount point is also accessible
[07:42] <funkenstein> saskia, how do I do that?
[07:42] <polpak> nexus, California
[07:42] <nexus> ohh, the central of the net ;-)
[07:42] <nickrud> gnomefreak, I think about 1/3 of my bugs are the embarrassing type :)
[07:43] <nexus> or ... the place of birth
[07:43] <funkenstein> saskia, it seems the drive is mounted at /media/<garbled text>
[07:43] <gnomefreak> lol nickrud its fixed already
[07:43] <tommi_> hei
[07:43] <Menu> :(
[07:43] <nickrud> a lot of those, too. I learned bugzilla a while back in self defence
[07:43] <nexus> polpak, im a new ubuntu user as well as a new irc user
[07:43] <saskia> lookup man mount, i think its mount -U uid /dev/yourdev /mountpoint
[07:44] <nexus> so dont wonder if i asked 'dump` questions
[07:44] <Menu> hrmh... How can i install Firefox themes?
[07:44] <nexus> polpak, since how long did you work with linux/ubuntu?
[07:45] <bluey> excuse my ignorance, but why does sudo apt-get install w32codecs return "E: Couldn't find package w32codecs" ?
[07:45] <tristanmike> bluey: because they have been removed from the repos due to legal reasons
[07:45] <gnomefreak> Menu: click on tools in FF and there should be themes
[07:45] <tristanmike> !w32codecs
[07:45] <ubotu> from memory, w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[07:45] <saskia> bluey: apt-cache search w32codecs
[07:45] <nickrud> bluey, because it's not in the repos. Check out the codecs on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:45] <pc_> i replaced my s3 with a geforce, X works but now glxgears and tuxracer just segfault..
[07:45] <gnomefreak> bluey: they are not in repos
[07:45] <gnomefreak> !w32codecs
[07:45] <gnomefreak> !+w32codecs
[07:45] <ubotu> hmm... w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[07:45] <bluey> i trued cache search it returns nothing either
[07:46] <polpak> nexus, I've been using ubuntu since Breezy was released.
[07:46] <polpak> nexus, using linux since about 1999
[07:46] <tristanmike> bluey: see above :)
[07:46] <nickrud> bluey, the ubotu link takes you straight to the codecs
[07:46] <nexus> polpak, ok , that isnt much... k...1999 is much
[07:46] <bluey> ok, thanks
[07:47] <nexus> in 1999 i got my first computer
[07:47] <bluey> it's just that i saw some examples using apt-get install w32codecs, i assumed it worked :/
[07:47] <Menu> gnomefreak: query, pls.
[07:47] <nickrud> bluey if you add some unofficial repos you can apt-get the codecs, but you need to be cautious about that.
[07:48] <Menu> ah...
[07:48] <nickrud> !tell bluey about !easysource
[07:48] <bluey> nevermind, ill try ffmpeg, see if that works :)
[07:48] <dead> maybe avifile-win32-plugin ?
[07:48] <bluey> usually brings in a few libs for video stuff
[07:48] <Menu> gnomefreak: when i try to install som ff theme file.jar, ff opens the save/open dialog, right?
[07:49] <nickrud> what happened to the easysource factoid?
[07:49] <roryy> nickrud: maybe try without the !
[07:49] <nickrud> lol, thanks roryy
[07:49] <sorush20_> can i run theme hospital on my ubuntu? with wine latest
[07:49] <tbaa> Is there *any* good bittorrent for linux?
[07:50] <r0ver> tbaa: i use mldonkey
[07:50] <tbaa> gtk?
[07:50] <r0ver> or rtorreent is good too
[07:50] <pc_> tbaa:  i like azureus if you dont mind using java
[07:50] <r0ver> well, mldoney has a html interface. It's very nice
[07:51] <r0ver> there are a couple of guis but didn't use before
[07:51] <pc_> tbaa: or torrentflux which lets you upload torrents from anywhere
[07:51] <pc_> also webbased
[07:51] <nickrud> the mldonkey gui's I tried were ok, but the web interface is very nice
[07:51] <dead> ctorrent rules the world =))
[07:51] <tbaa> I want a gtk-based bittorrent. working kinda like uTorrent & BitComet on windows
[07:51] <funkenstein> tbaa, depending on your needs and what you mean by good. azureus is the best *for me* on the machine I sit infront, or what pc_ said - torrentflux if you want to install it on a server and login remotely, but then you need LAMP installed
[07:52] <funkenstein> !lamp
[07:52] <ubotu> Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[07:52] <nexus> polpak, my download is nearly finish
[07:53] <VR_>  #nin - It's pie and chips... for free!
[07:53] <VR_> 13:26:30 -!- joins: AIDSWolf (AIDSWolf@Sudbury-ppp126600.sympatico.ca)
[07:53] <VR_> 13:27:23 <Trixtar> and who the hell are you
[07:53] <VR_> 13:27:58 <AIDSWolf> just someone
[07:53] <funkenstein> tbaa, or else you've got abc - http://pingpong-abc.sourceforge.net/
[07:53] <nexus> ill care about the installation routine ;-)
[07:53] <VR_> sorry!
[07:53] <nexus> polpak, c u and have fun on the net!
[07:55] <funkenstein> tbaa: or else just check out http://www.slyck.com/bt.php?page=2
[07:56] <menza> !nvidia
[07:56] <ubotu> I heard nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[07:56] <conn> hi, does anyone here have a r128-based video card?
[07:56] <saskia> anyone read TUX magazine lately? in April edition, they chose Mandriva as the editor's choice. But I found the scoring was not fair because the Ubuntu's multimedia evaluation is not scored.
[07:57] <Menu> Why, oh why i can't install ff themes like normal people do?
[07:58] <venox> conn: riva128?
[07:58] <venox> I have one riva128 (viper v330)
[07:58] <venox> hehe
[07:58] <dwight> what plugins do i need to be installed for me to use gnomebaker and burn oggs?
[07:58] <venox> 4mb, agp, bleh.
[07:59] <conn> venox: nope, rage 128
[08:00] <Rorgo> hm
[08:00] <daan> guys, i've got a little problem with compiling wine, when i compile it says: winebuild: vartest.o is an empty file and then gives some errors, anybody knows how to fix it?
[08:00] <klm> dwight: lol!
[08:00] <daan> it starts compiling, and then gives the error
[08:01] <saskia> daan: why compile? why not apt-get install wine ??
[08:01] <Menu> There's not easy solution to FF theme installing? :(
[08:01] <daan> hmm let me try that :p
[08:01] <bluey> huh, mplayer isn't in any ubuntu repositories?
[08:01] <tbaa> Menu click on the theme
[08:01] <bsdfox> bluey, universe or multiverse
[08:02] <tbaa> in the browser, firefox automaticly recognizes it
[08:02] <bluey> i have both of them in my source list
[08:02] <Falstius> daan, if you need a newer version of wine than is in the repos, you can add the wine-hq repos.
[08:02] <Menu> tbaa: seems that it doesn't :(
[08:02] <nonent> hey, i just upgraded from breezy to dapper, and my keyboard/mouse stopped working.  i have a feeling i'm missing out on something simple, has hotplug or whatever detects that stuff changed?
[08:02] <tbaa> compare the theme version with FFs version
[08:02] <nonent> can't seem to find anything about it on the wiki
[08:02] <dead> Tools -> Themes -> Get more themes
[08:03] <Menu> dead: and then, when i try to get some theme, it just opens save/open dialog w/o no chance to install it for ff?
[08:03] <ccureau> Hallo, all. :)
[08:03] <roryy> nonent: try asking in #ubuntu+1
[08:03] <bluey> bsdfox: http://rafb.net/paste/results/aw035F72.html
[08:03] <nonent> roryy: appreciated, thanks
[08:04] <bluey> bsdfox: apt-cache search yields no results for mplayer
[08:04] <dead> it's a strange behavour.... it works fine for me
[08:04] <Menu> dead: :( ...
[08:04] <bsdfox> bluey: add multiverse
[08:04] <ccureau> Does anyone else have a i915GM chipset here?
[08:05] <troytroy> bluey: paste ur /etc/apt/sources.list  in the pastebin and let me see what u have
[08:06] <bluey> troytroy: http://rafb.net/paste/results/aw035F72.html
[08:06] <Menu> i'll take reboot...
[08:06] <bluey> thats the default list that comes with the installation, i uncommented every url
[08:06] <brent> hello. are others ever having any problems with burning cds with nautilus burn?
[08:06] <arrinmurr> bluey: you don't have multiverse there. you have it only for backports
[08:06] <acid2> Hmmm, I seem to have broke sudo, and I've only just installed! When I try and "sudo apt-get install emacs" nothing happens, same as "sudo gedit" -- any ideas where to start looking?
[08:06] <brent> it always asks me to insert a blank disk even if one is in the drive
[08:06] <countz> Are there mythtv packages for ubuntu?
[08:06] <Steveire> You know those moments when you realise you just did a very stupid thing?
[08:06] <bluey> anyone have a decent source list i can use then?
[08:07] <Steveire> I just had one of those
[08:07] <MenZa> Can anyone recommend a good application for mounting ISOs?
[08:07] <MenZa> Without burning them, that is
[08:07] <countz> Steveire: Yah, I know what you mean exactly...
[08:07] <countz> MenZa: mount -o loop
[08:07] <ccureau> MenZa: mount -o loop,ro
[08:07] <MenZa> countz: gah :P
[08:07] <brent> this is driving me mad
[08:07] <brent> anyone?
[08:08] <Steveire> I just installed ubuntu,and i wasn't prompted to set a root password.
[08:08] <bsdfox> http://pastebin.com/642521
[08:08] <roryy> acid2: what kind of install did you do? normal or expert ?
[08:08] <countz> hehe, it's raining cats and dogs outside
[08:08] <acid2> Steveire, that is correct
[08:08] <troytroy> bluey: ok add multiverse to lines 19,20,35 and 36
[08:08] <Stormx2> Programmers: What application do you use to do your programming on ubuntu? specificly web programming/markup?
[08:08] <countz> i just heard a tiny bark
[08:08] <brent> i have been trying for months to get this to work without success
[08:08] <acid2> roryy, normal
[08:08] <bsdfox> er
[08:08] <Steveire> I'm confused, because I want to make a dir /mnt/hda2
[08:08] <ccureau> Steveire: it will allow you to set one by doing sudo passwd at the prompt
[08:08] <troytroy> bluey: then do sudo apt-get update
[08:08] <carthik> Stormx2, nvu
[08:08] <acid2> roryy, I assume anyway
[08:08] <bluey> ok
[08:08] <Steveire> I'm coming from Fedora, so I've very little linux experience
[08:08] <Stormx2> carthik: k
[08:08] <Steveire> cool, cheers
[08:08] <roryy> acid2: you'd have to have asked for expert
[08:09] <dead> MenZa, mount -t iso9660 -o loop /path/to/image.iso /mount/point
[08:09] <MetaMorfoziS> it can slice, but has very poor options
[08:09] <MetaMorfoziS> hopp sry
[08:09] <acid2> Steveire, then "sudo mkdir /mnt/hda2" :)
[08:09] <roryy> acid2: does 'tail /var/log/auth.log' reveal any useful errors? (please don't paste here...)
[08:09] <acid2> Sure, lemme chuck
[08:09] <acid2> check too
[08:09] <Steveire> terrific
[08:09] <MetaMorfoziS> anybody please tell me an easy image slicer program,not gimp. gimp can't do that i need.
[08:09] <brent> again, are others ever having any problems with burning cds with nautilus burn?
[08:09] <acid2> ah damn
[08:09] <acid2> Im not in wheel
[08:09] <acid2> lol
[08:09] <acid2> xD
[08:10] <Steveire> The very stupid thing I did by the way was to copy files that I wanted to keep from my fedora install to /home/steveire instead of /mnt/hda2
[08:10] <Steveire> They're gone now. Livew and learn
[08:10] <acid2> ta for helping me realise, roryy :)
[08:10] <brent> it keeps asking for a blank cd regardless of the fact that one is already inserted
[08:10] <irad> Can anyone help me fix my Konsole: http://www.arava.co.il/~infrared/snapshot1.png ?
[08:10] <bsdfox> bluey: http://www.8cylinder.org/dapper-n60/sources.list
[08:10] <reiki_work> I guess I'm easily excited. Running Breezy. I installed Dapper into a VM using VMWare Workstation. I get to preview it inside Breezy :)
[08:10] <roryy> acid2: np. the user you created during install should be in admin/adm groups
[08:10] <acid2> roryy, aye, made a new one though
[08:11] <saskia> irad: dpkg --purge remove konsole ; apt-get install konsole
[08:11] <acid2> And forgot to pop im in groups
[08:11] <scarn> Hirvinen, whats the best way to go about installing ubuntu on a rig running winxp pro sp2
[08:11] <bluey> thanks troytroy
[08:11] <bluey> works now
[08:11] <acid2> brb, gotta go on the admin user
[08:11] <Steveire> i typed sudo passwd, and it prompted me for a password.
[08:11] <bluey> i just assumed the default lists would have all this packages etc
[08:11] <serge> How do I get my PC TV card to work in Ubuntu?
[08:11] <Steveire> Is that my user pw?
[08:11] <ReD_BuLLeT> with wich program i can extract rar files
[08:11] <ReD_BuLLeT> ?
[08:11] <troytroy> bluey: cool, is working now?
[08:11] <bluey> ye, thanks for help
[08:11] <irad> saskia: i've done that for lots of times
[08:11] <brent> i have searched for months without any answer
[08:12] <irad> saskia: nothing happened
[08:12] <brent> i cannot burn cds in ubuntu
[08:12] <Steveire> it's all gravy now
[08:12] <troytroy> bluey: cool
[08:12] <gnomefreak> brent: install gnomebaker or k3b ;)
[08:12] <brent> bo
[08:12] <brent> no
[08:12] <saskia> irad: hmm... library problem
[08:12] <Steveire> if I type su and become root, how do I return to being system user?
[08:12] <gnomefreak> brent: ok dont
[08:12] <brent> i want nautilus burn not k3b
[08:13] <saskia> irad: what are the dependencies for konsole?
[08:13] <reiki_work> Steveire: type exit
[08:13] <MenZa> brent: then right click the file and click 'Write to CD'
[08:13] <Steveire> cool
[08:13] <funkenstein> brent, how about gnome-baker?
[08:13] <Rondom> irad, have you tried reinstalling kde-base?
[08:13] <serge> How do I get my PC TV card to work in Ubuntu?
[08:13] <Rondom> and some other packages
[08:13] <brent> sorry i don't mean to be rude or anything, but i obviously tried that
[08:13] <Stormx2> carthik: eek thats WYSIWYG!
[08:13] <irad> Rondom, no i didn't
[08:13] <funkenstein> brent, what does it same when you insert a blank cd?
[08:13] <Rondom> do so
[08:13] <irad> saskia, what do you mean dependencies for konsole?
[08:13] <gnomefreak> say*
[08:13] <funkenstein> Stormx2, I use ajunta
[08:13] <saskia> irad: yeah better reinstall the whole X
[08:14] <brent> it keeps doing it even if a blank cd is inserted
[08:14] <ReD_BuLLeT> brent are u try k3b
[08:14] <ReD_BuLLeT> ?
[08:14] <Steveire> hmmm, sudo works without specifing a password...
[08:14] <troytroy> amarok cant play mp3 what do i do
[08:14] <irad> saskia: i am not sure how..
[08:14] <brent> no k3b
[08:14] <brent> i have used it
[08:14] <saskia> irad: forget about dependencies
[08:14] <carthik> Stormx2, and otherwise too. You can use bluefish which is not wysiwyg
[08:14] <brent>  dont want it i want nautlis burn to work
[08:14] <gnomefreak> troytroy: install mp3 packages
[08:14] <Rondom> Steveire: this is because you entered it some time ago
[08:14] <gnomefreak> !mp3
[08:14] <ubotu> well, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:14] <Stormx2> carthik: I use that but its not quite perfect >.>
[08:14] <ReD_BuLLeT> uff please tell me with wich program i can extract .rar files
[08:14] <ReD_BuLLeT> ?
[08:14] <brent> telling me to install a different application is not the answer im seeking
[08:14] <Steveire> in the same session. OK
[08:14] <saskia> unrar
[08:14] <gnomefreak> !rar
[08:14] <ubotu> methinks rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[08:15] <gnomefreak> !unrar
[08:15] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, gnomefreak
[08:15] <irad> !kde-base
[08:15] <troytroy> gnomefreak: could u please be specific
[08:15] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, irad
[08:15] <nickrud> !info kde-base
[08:15] <serge> How do I unrar .bz2 files?
[08:15] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell troytroy abotu mp3
[08:15] <irad> saskia: i don't know how to reinstall my x
[08:15] <Stormx2> funkenstein: eek. google can't find it :( the world is over
[08:15] <brent> i have used k3b gnomebaker and k3b. you are misunderstanding my dilema. I want nautilus burn to work
[08:15] <Stormx2> woh why was that bold o.O
[08:15] <gnomefreak> troytroy: go to the link in your pm and look for mp3 one of the first 3 sections
[08:15] <ReD_BuLLeT> E: Package unrar has no installation candidate
[08:15] <ReD_BuLLeT> how i must do
[08:15] <ccureau> What is the best way to report bugs in Ubuntu?  I've tried reportbug and the web site, but haven't gotten any answers either way...
[08:15] <ReD_BuLLeT> :(
[08:15] <BobC2> Wow I can't believe how fast Ubuntu connects to IRC!
[08:16] <mizerydearia> While using my system it seems to freeze/lock up suddenly and only way to regain usage is by shutting it off.  How can I begin debugging the cause?
[08:16] <MenZa> BobC2: irssi? x-chat?
[08:16] <MenZa> :)
[08:16] <gnomefreak> ReD_BuLLeT:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[08:16] <BobC2> Menza Yes
[08:16] <gnomefreak> !info unrar
[08:16] <countz> BobC2: has got nothing to do with ubuntu
[08:16] <PwcrLinux> Hello
[08:16] <nickrud> ccureau, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs
[08:16] <saskia> irad: apt-get install kde-base, remove before that
[08:16] <Rondom> irad: I meant kdelibs btw
[08:16] <BobC2> countz beat the hell otta Pirch! lol
[08:17] <brent> so far nobody knows this answer. i have tried to reconfigure with setuid, but nothing
[08:17] <davix> once I installed a new hd, how do I format it to be ext3?
[08:17] <gnomefreak> irad: sudo apt-get install konsole should give you all depends with it
[08:17] <reiki_work> davix : man mkfs
[08:17] <irad> gnomefreak: i done that, and that isn't working..
[08:17] <Rondom> gnomefreak: this doesn't reinstall packages
[08:17] <BobC2> MenZa X-Chat sorry
[08:17] <ccureau> nickrud: Did that with one...I guess no one has gotten around to it yet
[08:17] <davix> k reiki_work tnx
[08:17] <gnomefreak> brent: without errors we cant do much
[08:17] <troytroy> gnomefreak: do u use amarok
[08:17] <gnomefreak> Rondom: what do you mean re-install packages?
[08:17] <PwcrLinux> Hello all, someone want to DCC me, and the errors display that says cannot write or find a dir, so how i can change the settings to my flash drive only for downloads?
[08:17] <brent> the fact that this doesn't work makes me think that ubuntu is far from ready for the mainstream to compete with windows, since the majority of nongeek users want to easily burn cds
[08:18] <MenZa> BobC2: blargh :/
[08:18] <nickrud> ccureau, one bug of mine didn't get a response for a couple of months (not suprising, because it was a universe package)
[08:18] <gnomefreak> troytroy: yes and if you install the stuff under mp3 yours will work too ;)
[08:18] <vge> http://www.tp.spt.fi/~veenseta/snapshot7.jpg<--why cant i select that package?
[08:18] <BobC2> I'm still very much a newbie to Linux (Ubuntu)
[08:18] <MenZa> brent: ... right clicking a file and choosing 'Write to CD' isn't easy?
[08:18] <funkenstein> Stormx2, lol, it's a good thing it's in the repos... also I typoed' it: It shouldn be anjuta
[08:18] <ccureau> brent: It could be a problem with your writer as well...
[08:18] <reiki_work> brent: or... that you broke it. Nautilus burn worked for me out of the box and I have old equipment
[08:18] <brent> `without errors we cant do much` all it says is please insert blank cd-rw
[08:18] <BobC2> MenZa  blargh?
[08:18] <Kallidor> anyone know where firefox would spit out an error if it just quit?
[08:18] <gnomefreak> brent: give us errors or something we can work with other than it doesnt work
[08:18] <ccureau> brent: does it work with any other linux distro?
[08:18] <troytroy> gnomefreak: so which engine do u use for urs
[08:18] <brent> my writer works flawlessly in windows
[08:19] <Gosha> ... how come ubuntu doesn't find out that the size of the screen is 1024x768 and not 800x600 ? .. i tried to use the fb1024x769 command in the boot thingie and to add vga=792 in the end of the kernel line at menu.lst
[08:19] <MenZa> BobC2: Meh, I personally prefer irssi, but that's how it is.
[08:19] <gnomefreak> troytroy: define engine
[08:19] <nickrud> brent, when you insert a blank cdr , do you get a popup window?
[08:19] <Stormx2> funkenstein: oooohhh!
[08:19] <BobC2> MenZa ahh OK don't know about that yet
[08:19] <bsdfox> Gosha, probably need a custom modeline
[08:19] <funkenstein> lol
[08:19] <brent> does it work with any other linux distro --- yes mandrake also works.
[08:19] <MenZa> BobC2: try doing irssi in a terminal.
[08:20] <ArseT12> do you speak french?
[08:20] <MenZa> !fr
[08:20] <troytroy> gnomefreak: gstreamer  xine ??
[08:20] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[08:20] <Steveire> So, I've just installed Ubuntu, and I accidentally did it without the broadband cable plugged in
[08:20] <Rondom> irad: sudo apt-get --reinstall install kdelibs4c2 kdelibs-bin kdelibs-data
[08:20] <ArseT12> thanks
[08:20] <BobC2> MenZa OK Just type thatin there right?
[08:20] <gnomefreak> gstreamer with amarok
[08:20] <Steveire> I've mounted my fat32 partition
[08:20] <MenZa> yep.
[08:20] <BobC2> ok
[08:20] <brent> it does not give error output it only asks for blank cd even when one is inserted
[08:20] <Steveire> What next?
[08:20] <BobC2> Thanks
[08:20] <davix> reiki_work, davix@puxi:~$ mkfs.ext3 -j /dev/hdd
[08:20] <davix> mke2fs 1.38 (30-Jun-2005)
[08:20] <davix> mkfs.ext3: Permission denied while trying to determine filesystem size
[08:20] <MenZa> It's a bit more primitive than X-Chat, but an excellent client.
[08:20] <Rondom> irad: enter this to re-install the packages
[08:20] <davix> erm
[08:20] <Gosha> i would be thankfull if anyone could at least .... say aynthing :P
[08:20] <davix> my bad
[08:20] <brent> the same thing happens on my brother's computer with different hardware
[08:20] <funkenstein> brb
[08:21] <Steveire> I guess I should connect it up and run update or something?
[08:21] <davix> didnt su
[08:21] <MenZa> Gosha: Sorry, didn't really understand your issue - you are running 1024x768, but Ubuntu registers it as 800x600?
[08:21] <BobC2> MenZa I need to learn aboput huis new OS and all the options
[08:21] <Gosha> yea
[08:21] <MenZa> BobC2: so do I ;)
[08:21] <BobC2> about this*
[08:21] <BobC2> lol uh huh
[08:21] <Gosha> ...*cough*
[08:21] <brent> it is not a hardware problem
[08:21] <reiki_work> davix: when you're ready to give the command, preface it with sudo.   like... sudo mkfs -j (etc)
[08:21] <gnomefreak> troytroy: i lied its xine sorry
[08:21] <reiki_work> and please don't type the (etc) part :)
[08:22] <davix> reiki_work, <davix> my bad | <davix> didnt su
[08:22] <brent> nerolinux works fine, but i insist on having nautilus burn work
[08:22] <irad> Rondom: thanks i'll try that
[08:22] <BobC2> I do have a couple of questions too
[08:22] <reiki_work> davix: it will ask you for password
[08:22] <davix> reiki_work, thanks though
[08:22] <davix> reiki_work, \o/ i am already done
[08:22] <davix> lol
[08:22] <reiki_work> ahh.. I type slow
[08:22] <davix> :)
[08:22] <davix> its ok
[08:22] <reiki_work> hehe
[08:22] <davix> i think slow
[08:22] <BobC2> Is there a way to have my Window(XP) box see and exchange files with my Linux (Ubuntu) computer over the network, I can see my other Windows box?
[08:22] <reiki_work> I know that feeling
[08:22] <Rondom> irad: it's also possible via possible but telling you a command is easier than describing the exact steps how to do this with your mouse
[08:22] <Gosha> henza: it worked to add fb1024x768 in the boot in knoppix .. but here, nope
[08:22] <troytroy> gnomefreak: ok
[08:22] <reiki_work> bobC2: samba
[08:23] <PwcrLinux> Anyone who the Xchat DCC file settings? I need help about recv-errors cannot write or find a dir on my hard drive, and I wanted to change the downloads to the flashdrive..
[08:23] <Rondom> via possible = via synaptic
[08:23] <BobC2> reiki_work OK I'll google it thanks
[08:23] <irad> Rondom: what? i didn't really understand what you just said..
[08:23] <reiki_work> BobC2: you can get it with Synaptic if it's not already installed
[08:23] <Rondom> irad: never mind
[08:23] <irad> :P
[08:23] <Linuturk> what is the boot option for loading ubuntu live cd w/o a gui?
[08:24] <Rondom> irad: just run the command I gave you above
[08:24] <gnomefreak> brent: if you are trying to burn a file that needs permissions i dont think nautilus will burn it without being sudo'ed
[08:24] <irad> Rondom: it's not working
[08:24] <wvelez> is there a way to boot directly into single user mode? thx
[08:24] <BobC2> reiki_work it can take a day to show up that way but I'll check to see
[08:24] <Rondom> irad: waht does it say?
[08:24] <brent> once again, there is no error, since i cannot even get to a burn interface, it keeps asking for blank
[08:24] <Gosha> "again: ... how come ubuntu doesn't find out that the size of the screen is 1024x768 and not 800x600 ? .. i tried to use the fb1024x769 command in the boot thingie and to add vga=792 in the end of the kernel line at menu.lst"
[08:24] <irad> Rondom: it seems like i need the library packages for kcm_konsole.la
[08:24] <Master-> Neeed help. I installed Ubuntu, and comes to the login screen, what the default user / pass? I didnt even get to picked one. :s
[08:24] <brent> sudo doesnt work either
[08:24] <reiki_work> brent broke sudo
[08:25] <duelboot> Gosha, what about vga=771
[08:25] <Gosha> ... i'll try
[08:25] <Rondom> irad: the reinstall works, but the problem isn't solved
[08:25] <MenZa> Is it possible to make Ubuntu log into a profile when it's launched so I don't have to type my username and password every time?
[08:25] <duelboot> Gosha, it worked for me...YMMV
[08:25] <irad> Rondom: exactly
[08:25] <reiki_work> gnomefreak: should brent be doing gksudo nautilus to start nautilus?
[08:25] <PwcrLinux> oh well
[08:25] <Gosha> ... wait a sec.. 771?
[08:25] <gnomefreak> reiki_work: if he really wants to
[08:26] <Gosha> ... that's for 800x600 .. i want 1024x768
[08:26] <duelboot> reiki_work, according to the documentation, use gksudo for gui apps
[08:26] <reiki_work> heheh... ok... I don't have a good handle on when to use gksudo I guess
[08:26] <gnomefreak> reiki_work: its really not a good idea to run either for nautilus iirc
[08:26] <troytroy> gnomefreak: ok thk have to install gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
[08:26] <Master-> I installed Ubuntu, and comes to the login screen, what the default user / pass? I didnt even get to picked one. :s
[08:26] <brent> should brent be doing gksudo nautilus to start nautilus? that doesnt work either. believe me im not a total noob. ive tried everything i can think of
[08:26] <BobC2> reiki_work  I wanted to Dual boot but If Ican exchange files easly maybe I don't have too?
[08:26] <Gosha> master-:... reinstall?
[08:26] <gnomefreak> reiki_work: but yes for gui gksudo
[08:27] <Master-> nvm Gosha.
[08:27] <MenZa> !hp
[08:27] <ubotu> MenZa: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:27] <Master-> Think i found something.
[08:27] <brent> sudo will make k3b work, but i want nautilus burn to work
[08:27] <MenZa> :\
[08:27] <Gosha> !hp?
[08:27] <ubotu> Gosha: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:27] <brent> yes hp!
[08:27] <reiki_work> BobC2: oh... dual boot.. you'll have to mount the windows partition in Ubuntu I think
[08:27] <gnomefreak> brent: dont use sudo with k3b its not needed and not a good idea
[08:27] <apokryphos> you shouldn't need sudo to use K3b
[08:28] <brent> so is my brother's is hp incompatible or something?
[08:28] <reiki_work> BobC2: like... these files reside on the same machine... right?
[08:28] <MenZa> Is it possible to make Ubuntu log into a profile when it's launched so I don't have to type my username and password every time
[08:28] <MenZa> ?
[08:28] <brent> gnomefreak, im not using k3b anyway
[08:28] <gnomefreak> brent: what version of ubuntu are you on?
[08:28] <Linuturk> how do i boot a live cd to the command line?
[08:28] <brent> breezy 5.10
[08:28] <Kallidor> #j springframework
[08:28] <b1shop1> is the resolution for the login screen in xorg.conf?  if so.  which entry?
[08:28] <BobC2> reiki_work but maybe with samba I can exchange files jpg wmv etc?
[08:28] <Linuturk> instead of gnome
[08:28] <brent> 5.04 didn't work either
[08:29] <BobC2> reiki_work no two machines
[08:29] <BurgerMann> Hi. I'd like to be able to login through my other computer, using xdmcp, but when I connect to the local ip nothing happens :S
[08:29] <brent> ive been troubleshooting for months
[08:29] <BurgerMann> Do I need to start ande remote xdmcp server?
[08:29] <apokryphos> b1shop1: it's meant to take the default entry, but from my experience that's more or less random. I just leave the one resolution that I'd use in xorg.conf, and it forces it to that in any X.
[08:29] <brent> im not that familiar with cddrive commands since i never learned those in school
[08:29] <reiki_work> BobC2: no... not on the same machine. For same machine file access you just need to mount that windows partition in Ubuntu and Ubuntu will be able to see the files as another drive
[08:29] <wvelez> is there a way to boot directly into single user mode? thx
[08:29] <reiki_work> BobC2: ahh... damn I just am not getting it today
[08:30] <BobC2> reiki_work oh yes I guess I understand that
[08:30] <BobC2> lol
[08:30] <brent> could the hp burner device be the problem in ubuntu? it reads fine but will not write. also it works fine in windows
[08:30] <Gosha> ubotu: .. nope, nothing at vga, framebuffer 1024 or 800
[08:30] <apokryphos> wvelez: yup, check in the settings menu or something. You can select to automatically log in.
[08:30] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Gosha
[08:30] <Gosha> ubotu: .. nope, nothing at vga, framebuffer 1024 or 800
[08:30] <Tychondriax> Hi people... :)
[08:30] <reiki_work> BobC2: 2 machines... one runing windows...one running Ubuntu... configure samba on the Ubuntu machine and windows machine can see it. SHARE on the windows machine so Ubuntu can see the windows machine
[08:30] <apokryphos> Gosha: ubotu is a bot :)
[08:31] <wvelez> apokryphos: id like to go by choice at boot time into single-user mode...i cant find that option on the menu at boot time...thx
[08:31] <Master-> Gosha, join #helpmaster plz. As pm dont work for unregistered members...
[08:31] <apokryphos> Master-: so register :)
[08:31] <reiki_work> BobC2: you MIGHT see already in ... I think Preferences from teh menu at top of Ubuntu screen... about sharing files
[08:31] <Tychondriax> who could help me with a Xgl problem?
[08:31] <BobC2> reiki_work Nice...both ways too?
[08:31] <Master-> No time.
[08:31] <goonie> I need to find the correct windows driver for my wireless card so I can use ndiswrapper but the list on the ndiswrapper page has been down for a while.. any suggestions ?
[08:31] <apokryphos> Master-: it takes one command: /msg nickserv register password
[08:31] <apokryphos> not that time-intensive, really ;-)
[08:32] <b1shop1> apokryphos: my xorg.conf file has 4-5 entries with resolution in it.  now sure which to change
[08:32] <reiki_work> BobC2: I transfer files both ways at home between my Ubuntu desktop and my wife's WinXP laptop...my son's WinXP desktop upstairs... we all share stuff
[08:32] <Master-> mm
[08:32] <BobC2> reiki_work Not seen in the Windows box but I have NOT looked from thre Ubuntu side yet still New ata this
[08:32] <Mic_hael> does anyone see a way to get to the PDF behind this link: http://www.raadvst-consetat.be/search97cgi/s97_cgi.exe?action=View&VdkVgwKey=d%3A%5Carrets%5C99000%5C800%5C99838%2Epdf&doctype=raw&Collection=Arrets&#xml=http://www.raadvst-consetat.be/search97cgi/s97_cgi.exe?action=View&VdkVgwKey=d%3A%5Carrets%5C99000%5C800%5C99838%2Epdf&doctype=xml&Collection=Arrets&QueryZip=99%2E838& ? Thank you very much!
[08:32] <troytroy> goonie: windows?
[08:32] <BobC2> reiki_work ahh VERY nice thanks
[08:32] <apokryphos> b1shop1: pastebin the output and I'll take a look
[08:32] <goonie> troytroy, yeah. ndiswrapper uses the windows drivers
[08:32] <oldbear> brent: I have experienced the same problem
[08:33] <Tychondriax> who could help me with Xgl?
[08:33] <apokryphos> !xgl
[08:33] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[08:33] <b1shop1> apokryphos: figired it out.  entry for each color depth
[08:33] <brent> oldbear, did you find a solution?
[08:33] <apokryphos> b1shop1: exactly
[08:33] <reiki_work> BobC2: google for samba docs... keep in mind you may not have to touch teh config files manually in Ubuntu. Just look in the menu... there IS something about sharing in Ubuntu (I'm at work on an XP box so I can't look and tell you exactly)
[08:33] <troytroy> Mic_hael: please restrain from pating too much text use the paste bin o
[08:33] <gnomefreak> Tychondriax: see #ubuntu-xgl for xgl help
[08:33] <gnomefreak> brb
[08:33] <apokryphos> b1shop1: just remove all occurences of the other resolutions that you don't want
[08:33] <b1shop1> apokryphos: prob is i would actually like to have gdm at different resolution them the desktop
[08:33] <Tychondriax> ithx.. :D
[08:33] <Tychondriax> *thx :D
[08:33] <Linuturk> is it possible to boot to a terminal on a live cd?
[08:33] <BobC2> reiki_work great! Thanks
[08:34] <oldbear> brent: not yet... I have read everything i can find...no solution
[08:34] <apokryphos> b1shop1: why?
[08:34] <b1shop1> vmware install
[08:34] <brent> oldbear, this sucks because the average user will totally be turned off by this imo
[08:34] <oldbear> brent: I am using gnomebaker untill I can resolve problem
[08:35] <Mic_hael> can anyone get to this pdf for me using ubuntu? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d11539 Thank you!
[08:35] <brent> gnomebaker is very buggy
[08:35] <ReD_BuLLeT> i can't install my video card terrible :(
[08:36] <tooleh> And how would I take a screenshot in linux?
[08:36] <MenZa> I'm trying to launch Kopete, but it won't - it makes a gesture as as if to launch, but just disappears.
[08:36] <roryy> Linuturk: You *could* try expert mode in the livecd (i think it has an expert mode), though I'm not sure if you can actully skip the gui. have you considered trying a completely different live cd? something like damn-small-linux might be better for older hardware.
[08:36] <brent> nerolinux works but nautilus burn is supposed to work, yet does not. im surprised that nobody knows why
[08:36] <wvelez> tooleh: print-screen button on your keyboard
[08:36] <b1shop1> tooleh: try hitting the printscreen botton!  ;-)
[08:36] <ReD_BuLLeT> just press print screen buton
[08:36] <tooleh> Oh...last distro i used that didn't work
[08:36] <dbarnett> target#ubuntu
[08:36] <Gosha> ... <apokryphos> : realized that xD
[08:36] <dbarnett> target#ubuntu
[08:37] <tooleh> Ok printscreend oes nothing
[08:37] <dbarnett> target#ubuntu
[08:37] <brent> imo, this is one of the most important features for a desktop os
[08:37] <dbarnett> target#ubuntu
[08:37] <Linuturk> roryy: i love DSL, but I don't have a live cd with me. i've got to use ubuntu
[08:37] <dbarnett> target#ubuntu
[08:37] <tooleh> do I have to apt get something or other?
[08:37] <dbarnett> target#ubuntu
[08:37] <Mersault> my computer froze while I was installing libmjpegtools (the crash was unrelated to the install, it was an xscreensaver problem), but now apt and dpkg are rather borked. how can I go about removing a partially installed package so I can start over again?
[08:37] <dbarnett> target#ubuntu
[08:37] <tristanmike> !ops
[08:37] <dbarnett> target#ubuntu
[08:37] <ubotu> Help! lilo, fabbione, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee
[08:37] <dbarnett> target#ubuntu
[08:37] <roryy> Linuturk: have you tried booting the ubuntu livecd yet?
[08:37] <oldbear> brent: perhaps...others would have to address that issue... so far it has worked for me, but i too would like to resolve this problem.
[08:37] <void^> Mic_hael: works fine for me
[08:37] <tristanmike> thank you :)
[08:38] <Seveas> nalioth, you spanked the monkey 
[08:38] <ReD_BuLLeT> please tell me how to install my video card: asus ati 9550
[08:38] <Linuturk> yes, gnome is to heavy for this old laptop
[08:38] <MenZa> !ati
[08:38] <ubotu> hmm... ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[08:38] <ReD_BuLLeT> ubotu,
[08:38] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ReD_BuLLeT
[08:38] <nalioth> Seveas: twas a naughty monkey
[08:38] <Mic_hael> void^ thank you... that gives me a little hope, but I don't see how to open it
[08:38] <tooleh> what is printscreen supposed to do
[08:38] <tooleh> I hav enothing in my clipboard
[08:38] <brent> oldbear, i really like ubuntu, but until this is resolved i cannot reccomend that others use it if they want to easily burn cds
[08:38] <Gosha> ...and again! favorite in repeat!:  "again: ... how come ubuntu doesn't find out that the size of the screen is 1024x768 and not 800x600 ? .. i tried to use the fb1024x769 command in the boot thingie and to add vga=792 in the end of the kernel line at menu.lst"
[08:38] <Linuturk> roryy: yes, but gnome is too heavy for my old laptop
[08:38] <raid0> hello
[08:38] <MenZa> tooleh: take a screenshot and launch a dialog that lets you save it.
[08:38] <raid0> :)
[08:38] <void^> Mic_hael: ah, rename to .pdf
[08:38] <brent> i hope dapper is less buggy
[08:39] <Mic_hael> ah, ok!
[08:39] <Mic_hael> thank you, I'll try that
[08:39] <MenZa> So, did anyone have a clue why Kopete couldn't launch :\?
[08:39] <brent> good thing ive still got windows. microsoft may be greedy, but at least they make programs that 'just work'
[08:39] <void^> Gosha: are you sure you don't mean X resolution?
[08:39] <gnomefreak> brent: i dont think there is a problem with nautilus
[08:39] <tooleh> MenZa: I get no dialog :S
[08:39] <Gosha> .. x resoloution?
[08:39] <MenZa> tooleh: weird.
[08:39] <Gosha> ... what's that? xD
[08:39] <tooleh> MenZa: Is there a package I need
[08:39] <void^> Gosha: resolution in X, in gnome or whatever gui you use.
[08:40] <MenZa> tooleh: Not that I know of.
[08:40] <iceman> anyone know a Dictionary hack for hotmail accounts ... cant get my pass to work
[08:40] <brent> if not nautilus, then why do other burning programs work but nautilus burn does not? explain that
[08:40] <Gosha> i dunno .. i use the one that was installed automatically
[08:40] <goonie> I have a problem... I decided to use ndiswrapper instead of ipw2200 so I added the ipw2200 to the blacklist, installed ndiswrapper, installed the correct (as far as I know) windows drivers and when I did 'modprobe ndiswrapper' the machine frose completely. I booted it again in recovery mode and it said something about a kernel panic... what did I do wrong?
[08:40] <Gosha> .. the loading is in 800x600 too
[08:40] <void^> Gosha: well, what you're changing with the kernel options you've messed with so far is console (text mode) resolution
[08:40] <roryy> Linuturk: hrm. can't find much info on the wiki
[08:40] <Bull3T> Hello, i have ubuntu linux. I have a problem, i can`t use sudo no more. Each time i use it it give`s me this error "sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Apr  6 00:08:16 2006
[08:40] <gnomefreak> brent: nautilus doesnt auto mount the cd writer the other apps do?
[08:40] <reiki_work> ack...  bbl.. thanks guys... and.... Dapper in a VM on a Breezy host is fun! :)
[08:41] <BobC2> reiki_work, MenZa: Thanks for the help!
[08:41] <fromvega> How do I configure allowed users for shared folders? or samba shared folders? is there any gnome gui?
[08:41] <Linuturk> roryy: yeah, i looked through it. Not much
[08:41] <Gosha> k...
[08:41] <gnomefreak> brent: seeing as you cant give us more than it doesnt work how are we supposed to help?
[08:41] <fromvega> I just found Shared Folders Settings, to select which folders to share
[08:41] <tooleh> Howcome the package manager thing doesn't have a pretty theme like other windows?
[08:41] <Gosha> quite got that when the text got really weird when i choosed some iother mode
[08:41] <Gosha> ... but then .. what should i chosse?
[08:41] <Gosha> choose*
[08:41] <ReD_BuLLeT> how can i know what version is my kernel
[08:41] <ReD_BuLLeT> ?
[08:41] <gnomefreak> ReD_BuLLeT: uname -r
[08:42] <ReD_BuLLeT> 10x
[08:42] <gnomefreak> yw
[08:42] <brent> i have told you. here is the forth time: it says please insert blank cd. nothing else that is as far as it takes me i dont get any more dialog
[08:42] <void^> Gosha: try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:42] <brent> this seems like a lost cause
[08:42] <gnomefreak> brent: does the window go away when you insert the blank cd?
[08:42] <MenZa> Argh, why won't Kopete run? I just reinstalled it, still no luck.
[08:42] <brent> no
[08:43] <roryy> Linuturk: i'm out of ideas, sorry. you can try expert mode ('live-expert') at boot (i.e., before kernel loads), but I'm not sure how much flexibility that gives you.
[08:43] <twager> Anyone know if the dapper kubuntu file is ok ?
[08:43] <Bull3T> Hello, i have ubuntu linux. I have a problem, i can`t use sudo no more. Each time i use it it give`s me this error "sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Apr  6 00:08:16 2006
[08:43] <gnomefreak> brent: what happens when you hit  (cant remember words) ok or burn or whatever it says?
[08:43] <oldbear> brent: my experience with ubuntu...my 6th linux distro...is that ubuntu rocks!!!
[08:43] <MenZa> :p
[08:44] <brent> when i click write it says "please insert blank disk"
[08:44] <gnomefreak> brent: after you insert one it says it again?
[08:44] <roryy> Bull3T: try 'sudo -K' first, and try again
[08:44] <brent> that is as far as it goes
[08:44] <brent> yes
[08:44] <twager> Dapper .iso file ok ??
[08:44] <gnomefreak> brent: sounds like the media is bad
[08:44] <brent> it just keeps saying it after clicking ok
[08:44] <fromvega> How do I configure allowed users for shared folders? or samba shared folders? is there any gnome gui?
[08:44] <brent> media is not bad it is brand new
[08:45] <Falstius> brent, I had a similar problem trying to burn DVDs in Nautilus .. it was related to permissions.
[08:45] <brent> i have tried numerous cd brands and get the same result
[08:45] <troytroy> hi can someone help me with my amarok player cant play mp3
[08:45] <Bull3T> roryy, same thing: "sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Apr  6 00:08:16 2006
[08:45] <Bull3T> "
[08:45] <LinuxJones> oldbear: yes it does :)
[08:45] <brent> Falstius: so the solution is, please?
[08:45] <roryy> Bull3T: when you run 'sudo -K', that is the error you get?
[08:45] <troytroy> i have installed all the necess plugins
[08:45] <_jason> ubotu: tell troytroy about mp3
[08:45] <Bull3T> roryy, yes
[08:46] <Mersault> Anyone here care to assist me? My system crashed while I was installing a package (the crash itself was unrelated to the install), but now apt-get and dpkg are giving me errors when they try and remove the partially installed package. The error can be found here: http://pastebin.com/642609
[08:46] <Falstius> brent, uhm, don't burn DVDs in Nautilus ;)  I just use the command line or gnomebaker.  It is easier anyway.
[08:46] <brent> im trying to burn cds
[08:46] <troytroy> _jason: i just read the whole page
[08:46] <brent> i disagree that it is easier
[08:46] <troytroy> _jason: told to install gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly which i did
[08:47] <_jason> troytroy: are you using dapper?
[08:47] <twager> Can anyone tell me if the new dapper Kubuntu file is ok ?
[08:47] <brent> why is the only solution "try x application istead"?
[08:47] <roryy> Bull3T: please wait a moment, I will try to reproduce this error.
[08:47] <troytroy> yes
[08:47] <fromvega> How can I configure allowed users for my shares?
[08:47] <Falstius> brent, I'm not sure I ever tried with CDs.
[08:47] <brent> why doesnt the included app work?
[08:47] <_jason> troytroy: and did you install libxine-extracodecs as well as amarok with the xine backend?
[08:47] <brent> did you fix the permission problem?
[08:47] <brent> what command do i need?
[08:47] <troytroy> _jason: ?
[08:47] <_jason> troytroy: it's on the page ;)
[08:48] <gnomefreak> brent: are you trying to burn a file you put there?
[08:49] <troytroy> _jason: libxine-extracodecs is installed
[08:49] <_jason> troytroy: and are you using xine as the amarok backend?
[08:49] <brent> gnomefreak: what? file i put where?
[08:49] <xxenon> hello. How do I prevent my ubuntu server (console only) to turn the screen to blank after some minutes ? (screensaver?)
[08:49] <brent> in the burn folder?
[08:49] <Falstius> brent, I'm not sure how to fix it.  Just pointing out that I don't think it is a media problem and that Nautilus CD burning is not 100%.
[08:49] <twager> Kubuntu dapper .iso ?
[08:49] <troytroy> _jason: yes
[08:49] <brent> Falstius: i know. it is a bug
[08:50] <_jason> troytroy: and your mp3's don't play after restarting amarok?
[08:50] <gnomefreak> brent: are you trying to burn a file in what directory and is it a file you placed there or the OS placed there?
[08:50] <marc> does anyone know an application I can use to open bin files?
[08:50] <Azertyuuu> hey all, i have the nvidia-kernel-2.xxx drivers installed, do i need nvidia-glx to ?
[08:50] <_jason> marc: you generally execute bin files, what is it?
[08:50] <roryy> Bull3T: hmm. try opening a new terminal and use sudo there
[08:50] <gnomefreak> Azertyuuu: yes
[08:50] <gnomefreak> Azertyuuu: depends on card
[08:51] <troytroy> _jason: when i click play all i see is it flashes st like finished
[08:51] <Azertyuuu> gnomefreak:  what is it good for ?
[08:51] <gnomefreak> Azertyuuu: ummmmmmm having 3d
[08:51] <Bull3T> roryy, same thing.
[08:51] <_jason> troytroy: try #ubuntu+1 because apparently amarok mp3 requirements have changed from breezy.  According to the wiki, it should be working
[08:51] <Azertyuuu> but everything works fine now ??? video card: GF4 MX 440
[08:51] <gnomefreak> Azertyuuu: the nvidia kernel being 2.6.15 has nvidia-settings not nvidia-glx
[08:52] <gnomefreak> Azertyuuu: unless you built your own kernel
[08:52] <marc> Hello?
[08:52] <brent> gnomefreak: dude that is insulting to my intelligence. i know you're only trying to help. i drag and drop 'my' file (photo whatever) to the burn folder. i know that what im doing is correct according to the documentation not to mention logic. it is obviously not anything that i am doing incorrectly
[08:52] <troytroy> _jason: ok
[08:52] <marc> How do you extract .bin files?
[08:52] <gnomefreak> brent: i need to know if you saved it to hard drive not insulting it will determine if it is a permissions issue
[08:53] <brent> gotcha
[08:53] <Jowi> marc: .bin files are usually not archives but executables. the only thing you usually need to do is to set the executable bit. like this "chmod +x filename.bin" then execute it like this "./filename.bin"
[08:53] <brent> yes on hd. i have two hds and files from neither will burn. could be a permissions problem i suppose but then what?
[08:53] <roryy> Bull3T: hmm. i can't figure out what's wrong; my sudo manages to fix itself when that happens, and Google doesn't show anything obvious
[08:53] <_jason> marc: if you don't know what you are executing, it's generally best not to.  What are you trying to accomplish?
[08:54] <marc> its a movie
[08:54] <Jowi> marc: or is it a cd-image?
[08:54] <Jowi> oh
[08:54] <marc> cd image
[08:54] <Jowi> i c . sorry for the misinformation then
[08:54] <master1> hey i have a question..how do u burn a Mp3 cd?
[08:54] <_jason> marc: mplayer plays .bins straight out I believe
[08:54] <buda_sk8> heloo!
[08:54] <Bull3T> roryy, the error was "sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Apr  6 00:08:16 2006" now itz "sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Apr  5 23:40:16 2006
[08:54] <Bull3T> "
[08:54] <marc> k
[08:54] <marc> thanks
[08:54] <roryy> Bull3T: what does 'date' report ?
[08:54] <buda_sk8> BR?
[08:54] <brent> gnomefreak: sorry if i seem rude to you. i appreciate your help, truly. i am just so frustrated. thankyou for understanding
[08:55] <marc> worked
[08:55] <marc> your my hero
[08:55] <marc> peace
[08:55] <_jason> !br
[08:55] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[08:55] <master1> if someone could help me with that
[08:55] <master1> please
[08:55] <Bull3T> roryy, Mi apr  5 21:56:08 EEST 2006
[08:55] <gnomefreak> brent: have you tried burning the same file from another burner? that would provide good info on if its nautilus or not
[08:55] <brent> yes. my brother has the exact same problem
[08:55] <buda_sk8> Thanks
[08:55] <Jowi> master1: you mean you want to turn mp3 to a music-cd or a data-cd?
[08:56] <brent> i should note that both of us use hp burners, but different models
[08:56] <master1> well i have mp3 music files on my computer and i want to burn them
[08:56] <Jowi> master1: "graveman" can do both
[08:56] <Jowi> !info graveman
[08:56] <master1> whats graveman?
[08:56] <ubotu> graveman: (graphical tool to burn dvd and cd, gtk based), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.3.12-4-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 689 kB, Installed size: 2428 kB
[08:56] <roryy> Bull3T: i'm out of ideas. one of 'sudo -K' or using a different console (i.e., terminal window) should fix this problem; also, it seems odd that sudo is creating timestamps two hours in the future
[08:57] <brent> it is not a file permissions issue i feel. if it is a permissions problem, it is permissions allowing to burn anything
[08:57] <master1> graveman isnt in synaptics though
[08:57] <brent> graveman gives me exact same problem
[08:57] <polpak> master1, it is if you install the universe repos
[08:57] <Jowi> !tell master1 about universe
[08:58] <gnomefreak> brent: i really dont think it is a permissions issue because its something you saved there but right click file and find out what the permissions are
[08:58] <_jason> roryy, Bull3T: someone had a similar problem and I believe it was solved by running ntpdate .  You can try that
[08:58] <Bull3T> adrian@devito:~$ sudo ntpdate www.isc.org
[08:58] <Bull3T> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Apr  5 23:40:16 2006
[08:58] <brent> what im trying to burn is owned by myself with r-w-x
[08:59] <roryy> _jason: i had my screensaver unexpectedly activate when i ran ntpdate ;)
[08:59] <_jason> Bull3T: how about just invoke-rc.d ntpdate restart
[08:59] <roryy> well, his sudo isn't working so he can't run any root commands
[08:59] <_jason> I ran it without root just now
[08:59] <brent> i have read others on the Internet with same issues, but nobody has the fix
[08:59] <rave> Hello, I'm trying to get my sound up, But xmms say that some other process is using the device
[08:59] <Bull3T> _jason,  does not work
[08:59] <Jowi> brent: permission problem of your burner perhaps. can you burn as root? "sudo graveman"
[09:00] <rave> It did work before i upgraded my sys
[09:00] <roryy> changing the system time requires root privileges
[09:00] <Bull3T> yes
[09:00] <brent> i dont have graveman anymore. sudo will allow burn i think, but how will i then allow users to burn without sudo? i need which command?
[09:01] <master1> thanx guys
[09:01] <polpak> brent, I think you have a permission problem with the device itself, OR you aren't in the proper group for the device
[09:01] <brent> this is exactly what i think. im trying to pry the useful information from you people for the fix....so whicch command please?
[09:02] <polpak> brent, go to system->administration->users and groups
[09:02] <Gosha> rm -r *
[09:02] <rave> Hello, My sound card isn't working
[09:02] <brent> and?
[09:02] <polpak> brent, select your user and go to properties, and go to the user privileges tab
[09:02] <brent> already there, then?
[09:03] <polpak> brent, make sure "use CDROM drives" is checked
[09:03] <Gosha> ... "Finding these values usually just involves searching [WWW]  Google with the model of your monitor. Both of these values are typically given in a range such as "30-98 kHZ" or "50-160 Hz". Write those values down, or otherwise keep them handy. Additionally, if your monitor supports it, you can just run the following command:
[09:03] <Gosha> sudo ddcprobe | grep monitorrange
[09:03] <brent> already is. polpak other apps like nerolinux work. i can burn cds but not with nautilus burn. that is my question
[09:03] <iceman> well dapper seems to run ok
[09:04] <polpak> brent, well unless nerolinux is running as root, that doesn't make any sense
[09:04] <Gosha> ... it didn't work with the grep monitorrange so i deleted that .. and got alot of information .. how do i konw witch one is the for-ver refresh rate?
[09:04] <brent> this is why i cannot understand, perhaps now you can see why im so perplexed.
[09:04] <brent> im no noob either, im trying to pry information that nobody has apparently
[09:05] <polpak> brent, what are the user, group and permissions on the device
[09:05] <iceman> anyone know the xorg version in dapper
[09:05] <[cro] smiley> how to change from one wireless network to other from console?
[09:05] <polpak> [cro] smiley, iwconfig
[09:05] <brent> polpak, whayt command would you reccomend to find this?
[09:06] <Jowi> iceman: 7.0
[09:06] <Firebird8[1] > wat is libsexy?
[09:06] <brent> polpak, what command would you use to find this?
[09:06] <master1> hey i was trying to burn a audio cd and when i clicked qrite tracks this is what came up "Can't open input file '(null)': No such file or directory
[09:06] <master1> "
[09:06] <Falstius> brent, there is a configuration option for where nautilus puts the temporary data when making the image to burn to the CD .. maybe you don't have permissions there.
[09:06] <[cro] smiley> polpak, yes and how to change ESSID?
[09:06] <Falstius> or there isn't enough space.
[09:06] <_jason> brent: ls -l device
[09:06] <brent> ok where can i view this and how to change permission to this 'config'
[09:07] <Falstius> brent, I'm at work and not on ubuntu .. its in there somewhere?
[09:07] <PwcrLinux> Hello, I have a question about updates notification, should I ticked all of them or I choose some of them?
[09:07] <master1>  hey i was trying to burn a audio cd and when i clicked qrite tracks this is what came up "Can't open input file '(null)': No such file or directory
[09:07] <master1> master1
[09:08] <Gosha> master1
[09:08] <master1> yes
[09:08] <[cro] smiley> polpak, thanx, now I realized iwconfig wlan0 essid "My network" :)
[09:08] <brent> what is device?
[09:08] <polpak> brent, sorry, I gotta run. good luck
[09:08] <brent> how do i know what the system calls it?
[09:09] <brent> thanks polpak
[09:09] <polpak> brent, dmesg should say
[09:09] <brent> ty
[09:09] <Gosha> Whatthe!
[09:09] <Gosha> it allready says 1024x768 in the xorg file!
[09:09] <batoms> what groups should a user be a member of in ubuntu
[09:09] <Gosha> .. and still it doesn't work .. Bleeergh!!
[09:09] <immerohnegott> hey....I'm having trouble getting my IPW2200 to show up on kernel 2.6.16.1....anyone here think they could lend a hand?
[09:09] <master1>  hey i was trying to burn a audio cd and when i clicked qrite tracks this is what came up "Can't open input file '(null)': No such file or directory
[09:10] <batoms> i just realized that the reason my camera wasn't working is because im not in the right group
[09:10] <master1> write**  and i was using graveman
[09:10] <brent> jason ls-l hdc says no file or directory exists
[09:10] <PwcrLinux> Hello, I have a question about updates notification, should I ticked all of them or I choose some of them?
[09:10] <brent> hdc is my device
[09:10] <master1> can someone please help me
[09:11] <Jowi> master1: which application?
[09:11] <master1> graveman
[09:11] <Gnabbe> I'm trying to connect my webcam and the driver is loaded according to my syslog. But when I start Ekiga i get this error message "Error while opening video device /dev/.static/dev/video0". Any suggestions?
[09:12] <master1> jowi, graveman
[09:12] <batoms> what group should a user on the system be in to give them standard access like things to sound, usb devices, etc...
[09:12] <brent> how can i change permissions for nautilus burn?
[09:13] <jadacyrus> Hi, I'm using twinview configuration for a dual head setup, and I have a question about screensavers. Why it won't grab desktop images when I have the option on and how can I get it so the screensaver goes across both monitors, not a seperate one on each.
[09:13] <Jowi> master1: i haven't had that error. maybe you're missing the commands for burning audio-cd. i can see what i can find. wait
[09:14] <immerohnegott> anyone at all familiar with the 2.6.16 kernel? It doesn't seem to be giving me any wireless support (i compiled it with modules for 802.11, ipw and what not, but i still get nothing)
[09:14] <master1> alright ill wait
[09:14] <unstable> ubuntu doesn't have xvidcap...where can I get xvidcap?
[09:15] <unstable> Or a program like xvidcap so I can record what happens on my screen into mpeg-1
[09:15] <Gosha> YAY!!!
[09:15] <Gosha> I DID IT !! FINALLY!
[09:15] <Gosha> YAyayaya!!!! WAooaah!!! WHooo~~!!
[09:16] <bluey> isn't apt-get upgrade supposed to upgrade all installed packages to the latest version?
[09:16] <brent> this sucks if ubuntu cannot easily burn cds, it is far from ready for mainstream. how can anyone say that ubuntu is easy if the simplest things are flawed?
[09:16] <_jason> bluey: nope
[09:16] <_jason> bluey: wait, yep
[09:16] <digits> how do i make .pcf fonts show?
[09:16] <Gosha> *coufg*
[09:16] <brent> looks like its time to try fc5
[09:16] <bluey> _jason: well, it doesn't seem to work for me. :(
[09:16] <Gosha> well, thanks to you hwho gave me the link
[09:17] <Jowi> brent: you need to type "ls -la /dev/hdc" to find the permissions.
[09:17] <MenZa> Is it possible to find a binary version of Gimpshop somewhere?
[09:17] <brent> ty jowi!
[09:17] <Tomcat_> bluey: It might not update packages if the dependencies change.
[09:17] <Tomcat_> bluey: You'll see "kept back" packages then.
[09:17] <bluey> my firefox is version 1.07 lol, i think it's a little outdated
[09:17] <brent> output: brw-rw----  1 root cdrom 22, 0 2006-04-05 06:28 /dev/hdc
[09:18] <brent> what now?
[09:18] <_jason> brent: are you in the cdrom group?
[09:18] <brent> see, some burn apps work but not all
[09:18] <brent> yes jason
[09:18] <bluey> i need an emerge -uD world for ubuntu :P
[09:18] <Syco54645> i was wondering if anyone could give me any help with a bin file that i have.  it is a cd image that i ripped from a vcd that i created long ago (i ripped it before i switched to linux).  i can get it converted to an iso, but then i am having trouble mounting it
[09:18] <_jason> bluey: firefox1.07 is the latest in breezy repositories
[09:18] <brent> nautilus burn will not allow burning. it only keeps asking for blank
[09:19] <bluey> _jason: oh, i was using 1.5 on gentoo
[09:19] <_jason> brent: use k3b or something
[09:19] <sfar> !tell bluey about ff1.5
[09:19] <bluey> atleast it's not me doing something wrong then :)
[09:19] <brent> afaik it is not a hardware issue. it is nautilus burn which does not work for me
[09:19] <_jason> bluey: ubuntu makes a stable release every 6 months and then provides security updates
[09:19] <Jowi> master1: do you have these installed? cdrecord, cdrdao, mkisofs, readcd, sox, growisofs ?
[09:19] <MenZa> !gimpshop
[09:19] <ubotu> MenZa: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:19] <MenZa> :(
[09:19] <brent> jason, you must have missed my response to that
[09:19] <bluey> ok
[09:20] <brent> i want nautilus burn to work. k3b is not an option for me
[09:20] <Gosha> .... how do i install wine without having a internet connetction
[09:20] <sfar> bluey, ubotu sent  you a private message how to update to firefox 1.5
[09:20] <Gosha> +?
[09:20] <_jason> brent: I see
[09:20] <sfar> if ya wanna do that
[09:20] <PwcrLinux> Hello, I have a question about updates notification, should I ticked all of them or I choose some of them?
[09:21] <bluey> sfar: thanks
[09:21] <brent> for one thing, i am on dailup, so installing new programs is not the solution im seeking. i want the applications that are already installed to 'just work'
[09:21] <master1> jowi, u still there?
[09:21] <Gosha> anjovis!
[09:21] <Jowi> master1: yep. did you check those programs?
[09:21] <VR_> has anyone successfully configured mozplugger, totem-xine and firefox ?
[09:21] <Gosha> master1:master1
[09:21] <brent> if i had broadband this might be a decent temporary solution, but it is not available where i live
[09:22] <Gosha> brent:... move away :P
[09:22] <master1> wat programs?
[09:22] <Jowi> master1: do you have these installed? cdrecord, cdrdao, mkisofs, readcd, sox, growisofs ?
[09:22] <jadacyrus> Hi, I'm using twinview configuration for a dual head setup, and I have a question about screensavers. Why it won't grab desktop images when I have the option on and how can I get it so the screensaver goes across both monitors, not a seperate one on each.
[09:22] <master1> yea i think so
[09:22] <PwcrLinux> Brent: try contact your cable company?
[09:22] <wastrel> grr, argh.  i put a new black ink tank into my printer but it's not printing black - but the reported ink level is going down.  where's the ink going?
[09:22] <_jason> brent: well you're in the cdrom group so afaik your permissions are fine on the device
[09:23] <master1> man.. it doesnt work.
[09:23] <brent> yeah and just go and sell my house for broadband! we don't have cable out here, only directtv
[09:23] <tooleh> moooooooooo] 
[09:23] <Gosha> ...how do i isntall windows 98 in a parition?
[09:23] <luke771> hi
[09:23] <PwcrLinux> ah
[09:23] <brent> _jason: i know, it is an application issue
[09:23] <tooleh> *-l
[09:23] <luke771> ppl
[09:23] <luke771> hi
[09:23] <master1> it says converting.. then the disc comes out and it says operation failed
[09:23] <Jowi> master1: well, check again. after you made sure, open up graveman, go to file - preferences - external programs. then click "scan again for external programs" and close the window. that might do the trick.
[09:24] <Gosha> .. serisly
[09:24] <brent> besides ubuntu states that they select the best programs, but they dont all work!
[09:24] <Gosha> seriosly
[09:24] <Gosha> *
[09:24] <wang_> hello?
[09:24] <luke771> gosha: you said it: just install win98 in a partition
[09:24] <jadacyrus> all my programs work.
[09:24] <MenZa> brent: are you gonna keep trolling?
[09:24] <brent> i hope this problem goes away in dapper, but i have my doubts
[09:24] <bluey> whats the best way to automatically purge old packages?
[09:24] <wang_> is there a C+ compiler for ubuntu?
[09:24] <Jowi> Gosha: you don't. w98 needs to be on the first primary partition.
[09:24] <brent> menza: ?
[09:24] <trappist> bluey: define old
[09:25] <bluey> i upgraded my kernel version, but the old reminants remain
[09:25] <luke771> if you have already linux (ubuntu?) installed, then you have to run the installation CD in rescue mode to fix the MBR
[09:25] <Gosha> .... crap!
[09:25] <_jason> wang_: no, there is a c++ one called g++ that you can get by install 'build-essential' though
[09:25] <trappist> wang_: g++
[09:25] <bluey> trappist: 2.6.12-9
[09:25] <wang_> kk
[09:25] <Gosha> i got to redo everything then? /sob
[09:25] <wang_> thanks
[09:25] <jadacyrus> just because you can't figure something out doesn't mean the system is flawed.
[09:25] <fromvega> A folder inside my home folder is not writable, but I already set yes in smb.conf
[09:25] <luke771> Gosha, you can fix it
[09:25] <brent> menza: i don't appreciate that
[09:25] <Gosha> hw how?
[09:25] <tooleh> can someone link me to the right debian package of XMMS2 if I'm using breezy (http://exodus.xmms.se/debian/dists/)
[09:25] <fromvega> A folder inside my home folder is not writable, but I already set yes in smb.conf Could you help-me make the folder writable?
[09:25] <trappist> bluey: so any package with that version number?
[09:25] <brent> im looking for answers. if you cannot help ignore
[09:25] <luke771> gosha get me on a private line and I'll tell you how (lil too crowded here)
[09:26] <MenZa> brent: well, for all I know, you've been complaining for the past ninety minutes.
[09:26] <wang_> how do you install that again?
[09:26] <Gosha> #w98lampa
[09:26] <wastrel> !tell fromvega about samba
[09:26] <brent> menza im ignoring you
[09:26] <Nto-> anyonw know what font the ubuntu logo uses?
[09:26] <Gosha> luke: #w98lampa
[09:26] <bluey> trappist: well, i mean if i do a apt-get upgrade and it installs the latest kernel image, but leaves the old one still there, is there anyway to purge without having ti manually hunt down all the old files?
[09:27] <void^> man cdrecord, man mkisofw, man growisofs for all your burning needs.
[09:27] <MenZa> ...am I the only one unable to view ubuntuforums.org?
[09:27] <void^> *mkisofs
[09:27] <trappist> bluey: apt-get remove linux-image-<version>
[09:27] <jadacyrus> menza: its going really slow for some reason
[09:27] <luke771> Gosha you see the private window?
[09:27] <poningru> anyway to add my sshfs mounted drive to automount when I turn on my comp?
[09:27] <MenZa> jadacyrus: Oh, okay.
[09:27] <tooleh> can someone link me to the right debian package of XMMS2 if I'm using breezy (http://exodus.xmms.se/debian/dists/)
[09:27] <Gosha> luke: ja'a
[09:27] <Gosha> luke: #w98lampa
[09:27] <MenZa> jadacyrus: Just needed to confirm that it wasn't my connection :)
[09:27] <brent> im not complaining at all im looking for a solution for a program which hasn't worked since day one. i have talked to many hundreds of people and so far with no success. if you cannot help fine.
[09:27] <trappist> bluey: most upgrades don't leave old versions behind, but a kernel upgrade does.  you don't have to worry about that for most packages.
[09:27] <master1> i did that but it didnt work 8(
[09:27] <bluey> trappist: but say for instance, 20 packages get updated, is there a way to purge all old ones?
[09:28] <luke771> Gosha can you answer in the priv. window? (you need to register to do that)
[09:28] <trappist> bluey: see my previous comment - most packages replace the previous versions
[09:28] <iceburgh> menza: same here, it's not loading
[09:28] <brent> isn't troubleshooting a pain sometimes?
[09:28] <bluey> trappist: k
[09:28] <trappist> bluey: the ones that don't (like kernel) don't for a good reason
[09:28] <brent> still there _jason?
[09:28] <Gosha> luke: nope can't answer, but see, join #w98lampa
[09:28] <master1> graveman just doesnt not work
[09:28] <trappist> bluey: like if the new kernel doesn't boot on your box, so you won't be screwed
[09:28] <bluey> trappist: ye i suppose thats reasonable, otherwise it wont boot :)
[09:29] <MenZa> Does anyone know if it's possible to find a binary version of GimpSHOP somewhere?
[09:29] <_jason> brent: yes, but I don't use nautilus burner so I don't really know what differs from other programs that would cause your problem
[09:29] <brent> i am in the cdrom group. like i said nerolinux works, so i can pretty much conclude that nothing is wrong with my device
[09:29] <_jason> Nto-: the font is somewhere on the wiki... if I can only find it
[09:29] <luke771> Giosha I'm there
[09:29] <brent> does nautilus burn use cdrecord or something else?
[09:29] <wang_> how do you install the G++ Compiler again? sorry to have scrolled pass that
[09:29] <Zoroaster> good day, ubuntians
[09:30] <Nto-> _jason: thanks, at leats i know where to start looking
[09:30] <master1> i have a question how do i play mp3 files ?
[09:30] <_jason> !mp3
[09:30] <brent> ubuntu is totally awesome, and if this only worked id be so happy.
[09:30] <ubotu> I guess mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:30] <digits> How do I do to make .pcf fonts show up in Gnome?
[09:30] <jadacyrus> Yeah, looks like ubuntuforums just crapped out.
[09:30] <MenZa> !tell master1 about restrictedformats
[09:30] <Zoroaster> for me to be able to putty to an ubuntu server, that server would heve to be running ssh?  would telnet need to be enabled?  how do you enable it?
[09:30] <MenZa> Argh. Too late.
[09:30] <Falstius> Zoroaster: you just need ssh running.
[09:31] <_jason> Nto-: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuTitle
[09:31] <Falstius> you can just install it .. sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[09:31] <wastrel> wang_:  install build-essential
[09:31] <Nto-> thanks u bunch
[09:31] <brent> _jason, are you using gnomebaker?
[09:31] <MenZa> I installed - and removed - KDE earlier. It seems to have replaced a few of my icons in GNOME aswell as my file manager, along with a few other things. Any ideas how I reset this?
[09:31] <_jason> ubotu: ubuntufont is <reply> You can download the ubuntu title font at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuTitle
[09:31] <ubotu> _jason: okay
[09:31] <_jason> brent: yes
[09:31] <Jowi> master1: if you can't play mp3 you probably don't have the tools to burn them to an audio cd. check the links about restricted formats ubotu just gave you on how to set up mp3
[09:31] <wang_> wastrel not working telling me not available
[09:31] <jadacyrus> Zoroaster: what are you trying to do with putty?
[09:31] <brent> just wondering
[09:32] <tooleh> can someone link me to the right debian package of XMMS2 if I'm using breezy (http://exodus.xmms.se/debian/dists/)
[09:32] <master1> i dont understand it
[09:32] <Cooner750> If I change the video output to SDL, what do I change it to in programs like MPlayer?
[09:32] <brent> serpentine works, but not nautilus-burn. weird isn't it?
[09:32] <wang_> its telling me "too few arguments"
[09:32] <MenZa> I installed - and removed - KDE earlier. It seems to have replaced a few of my icons in GNOME aswell as my file manager, along with a few other things. Any ideas how I reset this? Sorry for asking again on so short notice, but I have a bit of a tight schedule.
[09:33] <Cooner750> brent: Tried gnomebaker?
[09:33] <tooleh> anyone? How do I get xmms2 working?
[09:33] <wastrel> wang_:  i don't know anything about samba, just provided the link
[09:33] <iceburgh> brent: have you searched ubuntuforums.org for your problem?
[09:33] <wang_> link?
[09:33] <brent> I installed Ubuntu using Reiser FS. this would possibly cause any conflict would it?
[09:33] <wastrel> wang_:  the one ubotu sent you
[09:33] <wastrel> wang_:  oops sry wrong person
[09:33] <brent> cooner750: yes, it works but i want nautilus burn to work
[09:34] <wang_> do you guys mind send that link again?
[09:34] <wastrel> wang_:  sudo apt-get install build-essential ?
[09:34] <proof_of_death> tooleh: just sudo apt-get install xmms
[09:34] <PwcrLinux> Hello, I have a question about updates notification, should I ticked all of them or I choose some of them?
[09:34] <funkenstein> are the forums down atm?
[09:34] <irad> !xmm2
[09:34] <ubotu> irad: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:34] <iceburgh> funkenstein: looks like it
[09:34] <irad> !xmms2
[09:34] <ubotu> irad: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:34] <hoock> nas
[09:34] <MenZa> funkenstein: no, but incredibly slow :p
[09:34] <_jason> PwcrLinux: choose the ones you want.  If bandwidth is not an issue, I would just choose all
[09:35] <Jowi> funkenstein: no, but very slow
[09:35] <funkenstein> :'(
[09:35] <funkenstein> nooooooooooooo!!
[09:35] <Cooner750> I got WMV videos working in Mplayer, but how about Totem?
[09:35] <tooleh> proof_of_death XMMS 2, not xmms 1
[09:35] <_jason> Cooner750: use totem-xine and w32codecs
[09:35] <brent> iceburgh: for the past six months
[09:35] <tooleh> !xmms2
[09:35] <ubotu> tooleh: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:35] <PwcrLinux> _jason: i am on cable connection, and should I choose all of them?
[09:35] <funkenstein> :O
[09:35] <dasruud> anyone knows of firefox-like extensions in epiphany? and where to get?
[09:35] <jadacyrus> Hi, I'm using twinview configuration for a dual head setup, and I have a question about screensavers. Why it won't grab desktop images when I have the option on and how can I get it so the screensaver goes across both monitors, not a seperate one on each.
[09:35] <proof_of_death> tooleh: http://wiki.xmms2.xmms.se/index.php/Download_XMMS2#Breezy_Badger
[09:36] <irad> tooleh: http://wiki.xmms2.xmms.se/index.php/Download_XMMS2#Breezy_Badger
[09:36] <_jason> wow
[09:36] <Jowi> tooleh: xmms2 is still in development
[09:36] <tmjb> any reiserfs guru here
[09:36] <proof_of_death> tooleh: if your system breaks, don't call me
[09:36] <_jason> PwcrLinux: which dialog are you referring to exactly?
[09:36] <dasruud> anyone?
[09:36] <PwcrLinux> _jason: next to my battery icon
[09:37] <wastrel> the updates manager icon
[09:37] <robinmdh> a nested x session, is it posible with xorg, do I need xnest or Xephyr?
[09:37] <PwcrLinux> yep, that's one
[09:37] <sorush20> guys how do I make sure my usb controller is usb two..
[09:38] <_jason> PwcrLinux: as long as you haven't added outside repos, you should be ok
[09:38] <brent> oh well, i thought id give it a whirl.
[09:38] <wastrel> sorush20:  try lsusb
[09:38] <mkrenz> Is there someplace I can get the latest dapper Live CD?
[09:38] <brent> does anyone know what command nautilus burn uses to burn cds?
[09:38] <brent> is it cdrecord or something else?
[09:38] <_jason> !flight6
[09:38] <ubotu> [flight6]  http://www.ubuntu.com/testing
[09:38] <_jason> mkrenz: ^
[09:39] <mkrenz> Thank you _jason
[09:39] <wastrel> what's the command for the gnome print dialog?
[09:39] <lachesis> I have a problem with setting up a widescreen monitor on flight 6. It requires a special modeline to get the 1280*800 resolution and I have it working on debian sid. But the same settings wont work on ubuntu... Starting to make me crazy. Any idea, anyone ?
[09:39] <PwcrLinux> _jason: okay, should I take it all of them to update it or some of them? I am on the lappy
[09:39] <_jason> PwcrLinux: all are fine
[09:39] <dasruud> brent, try installing k3b
[09:40] <_jason> ubotu: tell PwcrLinux about components
[09:40] <_jason> PwcrLinux: maybe that will help you
[09:40] <brent> dasruud: everybody's solution, huh?
[09:40] <PwcrLinux> _jason: okay great and thanks I'm gonna updating now..
[09:40] <dasruud> yep
[09:40] <arrick> hey guys im back
[09:41] <dasruud> brent: it works fine in gnome
[09:41] <dasruud> brent: no need for kde, use synaptic to install
[09:41] <brent> i know i have it and it does work fine. my question is how to get 'nautilus-burn' to work. i don't want to use k3b./
[09:41] <tmjb> My sw raid5 (4disk) got corupted on resiersfs 3 any ideas how to find out  which hard drive got bad sectors tnx ?
[09:42] <dasruud> i have no idea, necer used it myself
[09:42] <dasruud> i noticed it autostarted when i inserted a blank, and asked me what to do
[09:42] <dasruud> that'a about all i know about it
[09:42] <brent> no offense to anybody here but....telling someone to install x instead of a solution to the application in question is not what im seeking
[09:43] <yUSiyEEE> i'm having some problem on ubuntu flight 5, after i upgraded and restart. the update notifier is no longer working
[09:43] <yUSiyEEE> either the bug-buddy
[09:43] <dasruud> try inserting a blank and see if it asks anything
[09:43] <brent> when's dapper? june?
[09:43] <Jowi> brent: you do not have a common problem. first time i've heard about it. your burner permissions are correct, you belong to the correct group and other burner applications work. i dont use nautilus or gnome at all so my guess is that there is a bug in nautilus or even gnome settings that are out of wack. can a newly created  user burn with nautilus or is it only this user?
[09:44] <IamEthos> hey
[09:44] <IamEthos> I'm looking for a good media player
[09:44] <IamEthos> for playing music
[09:44] <tooleh> how do I make things (such as the xmms2 daemon) start automatically at boot?
[09:44] <IamEthos> with a media library
[09:44] <Jowi> IamEthos: rhythmbox is nice
[09:44] <brent> jowi, i will try that. thats a terrific idea that i havent tried yet. ill try it and get back to you ty for the idea
[09:44] <IamEthos> something similar to Winamp5 on windows
[09:44] <IamEthos> Jowi: media library though?
[09:44] <diego> Bem vidos
[09:45] <IamEthos> oh, I guess it does
[09:45] <IamEthos> nice
[09:45] <Jowi> IamEthos: not exactly sure what you mean by library. you can sort by artist name, album name etc. it also handles radio-stations.
[09:45] <brent> ok guys and girls, i will try Jowi's idea and i will be back either way with results. wish me luck
[09:45] <brent> later
[09:45] <wastrel> anyone know what i can do to get my printer to print black ink again?
[09:45] <IamEthos> Jowi: it has what i'm looking for
[09:45] <mike_> hi guys
[09:45] <IamEthos> not beautiful, but it's usable
[09:45] <jadacyrus> Hi, I'm using twinview configuration for a dual head setup, and I have a question about screensavers. Why it won't grab desktop images when I have the option on and how can I get it so the screensaver goes across both monitors, not a seperate one on each.
[09:46] <Jowi> later brent
[09:46] <mike_> finally in 2 days iv got the desktop i want my graphics drievr working
[09:46] <BurgerMann> What does a desktop need to let other computeres log as a local session?
[09:46] <mike_> sound card works
[09:46] <mike_> internet works
[09:46] <mike_> im happy now
[09:46] <IamEthos> Jowi: I had it in "small mode" and didn't notice the library
[09:46] <arrick> hey guys, how do I move a file from one computer, with ntfs partitions, to a ubuntu/apache webserver?
[09:46] <dasruud> my nvidia driver works poorly, what to do?
[09:46] <boman^> Hm... ubuntuforums.org down? :(
[09:46] <arrick> I already have a ssh session open
[09:46] <mike_> dasruud
[09:46] <mike_> do you hAVE THE LATEST ONES
[09:46] <dasruud> yes?
[09:46] <crafteh> does anyone know what repository i can find the sane-backends package?
[09:47] <master1> thanx im using serpentine
[09:47] <arrick> !sane
[09:47] <ubotu> arrick: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:47] <dasruud> i guess, it's installed from my synaptic
[09:47] <jadacyrus> yeah, forums are almost at a dead stop right now
[09:47] <mike_> hmm let em find link to forums
[09:47] <dasruud> tks
[09:47] <Jowi> IamEthos: ah. yeah, the small display is really basic
[09:47] <IamEthos> can anyone tell me where to find information on configuring sound in Linux?
[09:48] <Jowi> !sound
[09:48] <ubotu> sound is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[09:48] <arrick> !sound
[09:48] <bsdfox> IamEthos, whagt kinda sound card/chipset?
[09:48] <wastrel> !tell IamEthos about sound
[09:48] <arrick> hey guys, how do I move a file from one computer, with ntfs partitions, to a ubuntu/apache webserver?
[09:48] <arrick> I already have a ssh session open
[09:49] <bsdfox> arrick, ftp?
[09:49] <jadacyrus> arrick: ssh cannot transfer files
[09:49] <dasruud> mike_: generally, whenever i open firefox tabs it takes a lot to navigate and switch between them; looks like a video card slowdown
[09:49] <crafteh> has anyone messed around with sane before?
[09:49] <scarn> i want to install ubuntu on an existing winxp sp2 raid0 setup. is this possibble without destroying the raid0?
[09:49] <sean> ssh CAN transfer files
[09:49] <arrick> ok
[09:49] <dasruud> i don't get that in epiphany though
[09:49] <rixth> Yeah, it can.
[09:50] <mike_> did ya get my pm
[09:50] <rixth> Not that I know how...
[09:50] <bsdfox> dasruud, that's cause firefox caches like 5 million webpages
[09:50] <sean> use sftp, It uses ssh to transfer files
[09:50] <arrick> why did I get told to ssh in to edit my webpage on the apache server?
[09:50] <jadacyrus> well, yeah
[09:50] <dasruud> if you mean me, i didn't get any pm
[09:50] <mike_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75074
[09:50] <mike_>  i followed this and installed them
[09:50] <dasruud> tks bsdfox
[09:50] <sean> arrick: Because you can
[09:50] <mike_> my graphics card worked a lot better
[09:50] <arrick> sean, how?
[09:50] <sean> arrick: read man sftp
[09:50] <arrick> ok thanks
[09:50] <mike_> make sure you get the latests drivers
[09:51] <mike_> 8178 i think they are
[09:51] <arrick> I wish i was in ubuntu right now
[09:51] <dawid> hey, where can i add a console command so that it is executed at startup.. like win98 had autoexec.bat
[09:51] <dasruud> tks mike_, looking them up now
[09:51] <mike_> takes a while lol
[09:51] <mike_> but its worth it
[09:51] <sean> arrick: sftp is a programs that uses a ssh subsystem to transfer files similer to ftp
[09:51] <mike_> anyone got eve to work with wine yet
[09:51] <IamEthos> bsdfox: Sigmatel, (on board, came preinstalled in my Dell Inspiron, kind of thing)
[09:51] <arrick> ok
[09:51] <Jowi> dawid: /home/user/.xsession
[09:52] <bsdfox> IamEthos, I have an inspiron too
[09:52] <sean> arrick: as long as the server has sftp-server, which I assume it does, you can do it from Konqueror is use use kubuntu
[09:52] <bsdfox> a 5100.. do dmesg|grep ICH
[09:52] <bsdfox> is it ICH4/5/6?
[09:52] <Jowi> dawid: that work for all wm's. for gnome, there is already a session-manager you can add programs in
[09:52] <sean> arrick: Otherwise, start sftp in a terminal with similar syntax to ssh
[09:53] <arrick> sean, i have creating the page with frontpage on xp,
[09:53] <dawid> how can i add programs to the existing session manager?
[09:53] <arrick> ok
[09:53] <sean> arrick: There are winxp programs too
[09:53] <tengus> could someone tell me how to install libgtk-1.2?
[09:53] <IamEthos> just seems like since I installed Jack, the sound distorts when I turn the volume up
[09:53] <IamEthos> and it's not my speakers
[09:53] <wastrel> puttyscp would work but requires dos cli skills
[09:53] <mike_> has anyone mamanged to get eve-online to work with wine yet
[09:53] <IamEthos> because the sound is at WAY lower than they can handle
[09:53] <sean> arrick: Inclusing ones from sf.net if i remember correctly
[09:53] <PwcrLinux> Hello all!, all upgraded just done :)
[09:54] <dawid> anyone ever heard of tilda? It is a freaken cool shell emulator, it works like q3's console
[09:54] <arrick> hey, I should be able to start the sftp session from within the ssh session right?
[09:54] <duelboot> arrick, just returning...is your webpage up yet?
[09:54] <bsdfox> IamEthos, hmm I havn't noticed anything like that.. but I'm using gstreamer instead of jack
[09:54] <arrick> have to get it transferred duel
[09:54] <arrick> duelboot,
[09:54] <duelboot> tonyyarusso, welcome back
[09:54] <dawid> how do i defrag my harddrives?
[09:54] <tonyyarusso> duelboot: Thanks.
[09:54] <IamEthos> bsdfox, what does that do?
[09:54] <wastrel> defrag isn't necessary in linux
[09:54] <PwcrLinux> new version in the end befor the 386
[09:54] <tengus> could someone tell me how to install libgtk-1.2?
[09:54] <IamEthos> dmesg|grep ICH
[09:54] <arrick> hey duelboot join #arrick
[09:54] <sean> arrick: No, it cannot be started in an already running session of ssh
[09:54] <arrick> ok
[09:54] <tonyyarusso> dawid: No need.
[09:54] <BurgerMann> Where do I configure what ports are opened and closed?
[09:54] <brent> hi Jowi. im back it did not work. same exact problem
[09:54] <Jowi> arrick: rcp is a nice command. secpanel is graphical.
[09:54] <sean> arrick: But you can  reconnect with sftp instead.
[09:55] <dawid> How do you mean no need?
[09:55] <brent> oh well i give up
[09:55] <duelboot> arrick, I'm there
[09:55] <sean> arrick: Just do "sftp user@host.com" no quotes
[09:55] <brent> i don't think itll ever wok
[09:55] <wastrel> arrick is on windows trying to upload a file to linux.  there's no scp or sftp or rcp
[09:55] <Jowi> brent: crap. i had hoped that a setting was wrong in gnome.
[09:55] <brent> me too
[09:55] <BurgerMann> Where do I configure what ports are opened and closed?
[09:55] <Jowi> wastrel: ah.
[09:55] <brent> i havent ever really messed with any settings
[09:56] <bsdfox> arrick, go download sftp from the putty site
[09:56] <sean> wastrel, no but there are GUI programs to do that
[09:56] <bsdfox> BurgerMann, firestarter
[09:56] <sean> wastrel, I used one
[09:56] <BurgerMann> bsdfox: is that installed by default?
[09:56] <tonyyarusso> dawid: The filesystems used by Linux do the equivalent of the defragmenting process automatically as they work, so it is not necessary to do a separate step.  That is only required in poorly designed filesystems like those used by Windows.
[09:56] <PwcrLinux> dawid: your linux doesn't need defrag.. it's ext3 filesystem :)
[09:56] <jadacyrus> why not jut ue normal ftp
[09:56] <bsdfox> BurgerMann, I think so
[09:56] <brent> im just irritated
[09:56] <IamEthos> has anyone heard of any software that would let you mix the volume's of running applications?
[09:56] <brent> gotta go
[09:56] <Jowi> brent: that was not what i meant. i thought gnome itself had messed with the settings.
[09:56] <bsdfox> IamEthos, gstreamer
[09:56] <IamEthos> for example
[09:57] <lachesis> how can I activate the window shadows on gnome 2.14 ?
[09:57] <ubuntu_rules> hello again all
[09:57] <arrick> ok
[09:57] <bsdfox> the ubuntu default...
[09:57] <IamEthos> if I'm listening to music loud, I don't want Gaim's IM sounds to hit me in the face
[09:57] <crafteh> if I have breezy but need a package thats in dapper... how do I just get that one package?
[09:57] <wastrel> anyone know how to bludgeon my inkjet printer so it'll start printing black again?
[09:57] <IamEthos> so I'd like to turn them down
[09:57] <Sulle-> hi all
[09:57] <IamEthos> bsdfox: how?
[09:57] <tonyyarusso> IamEthos: I believe Gaim 2.0 has it's own volume control.
[09:57] <bsdfox> it uses just works technology
[09:57] <PwcrLinux> _jason: it's works great in the updates and rebooted the box :)
[09:57] <IamEthos> I'm using Gstreamer too (Only use Jack for LMMS and so on)
[09:57] <IamEthos> tonyyarusso: really?
[09:57] <jadams> anyone know a lot about imagemagick, or know a goodplace to ask?
[09:58] <bsdfox> jadams, sup?
[09:58] <tonyyarusso> IamEthos: Check the release notes on sourceforge to make sure, but I think I remember reading that.
[09:58] <ubuntu_rules> !info imagemagic
[09:58] <IamEthos> still, it would nice to have an app that will look at the sound output of every running app and let you mix them all from one window
[09:58] <IamEthos> that would be nice
[09:58] <tonyyarusso> IamEthos: Very.
[09:58] <patrick52222> where do i get or run the widget factory
[09:58] <ubuntu_rules> !info imagemagick
[09:58] <ubotu> imagemagick: (Image manipulation programs), section graphics, is optional. Version: 6:6.2.3.4-1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1301 kB, Installed size: 3688 kB
[09:59] <ruzgar> how can i learn my ubuntu version number
[09:59] <jadams> bsdfox: alright, so I'm using convert to convert a pdf to jpg or png
[09:59] <wastrel> ruzgar:  lsb_release -a
[09:59] <Jowi> crafteh: you can probably download it directly from the ftp sites. http://ftp.oleane.net/ubuntu/dists/dapper/ for example
[10:00] <jadams> it by default seems to set it 72dpi at the same dimensions as the original
[10:00] <Firefox_7> instruction Google Adsense-->  http://planet.nana.co.il/hartk2003/en.htm                 Download free Firefox -->  http://planet.nana.co.il/hartk2003/Firefox.htm
[10:00] <wastrel> jadams:  file:///usr/share/doc/imagemagick/index.html
[10:00] <jadams> so I do 'convert -resize 1700x2200 foo.pdf foo.png' (would be 200dpi equivalent)
[10:00] <bsdfox> jadams, I didn't even know you could do that :P I'm not gonna be any help
[10:00] <Jowi> crafteh: it is not advisable to mix though.
[10:00] <jadams> but it seems like it must resize after pdf conversion, because it's just as blurry
[10:00] <dasruud> mike_
[10:00] <mike_> yea
[10:00] <arrick> ok, now that I have psftp, how do I use it?
[10:01] <wastrel> i didn't even know imagemagick could process pdf's
[10:01] <crafteh> Jowi, ah... I'm trying to get the new libsane to support my scanner
[10:01] <crafteh> Jowi, its dependent on other new things too though
[10:01] <crafteh> bah
[10:01] <mike_> das whats up
[10:01] <dasruud> i have the correct driver installed, but in my xorg.conf i have the Load "dri" and Load "GLcore" uncommented
[10:02] <dasruud> should i comment them out?
[10:02] <arrick> does psftp use port 21?
[10:02] <dasruud> what do they do anyway?
[10:02] <mike_> dunno
[10:02] <mike_> what card you uing
[10:02] <mike_> using
[10:02] <dasruud> geforce fx 5200
[10:02] <srecko> please I need help
[10:02] <IamEthos> okay, I've apparently F'd up Synaptic somehow
[10:02] <IamEthos> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11540
[10:02] <IamEthos> if anyone could help me
[10:02] <IamEthos> that'd rock my socks
[10:03] <mike_> im not sure on that one
[10:03] <srecko> my nautilus crashes when try to open file and that happen only if not root
[10:03] <dasruud> k mije_, thanks
[10:03] <mike_> how much memeory do you have
[10:03] <dasruud> 512 mb
[10:03] <dasruud> ram
[10:03] <mike_> im running a gf 6800 ultra
[10:03] <dasruud> and 128 on the video
[10:03] <mike_> so maybe a lot difference
[10:03] <arrick> ok, now that I have psftp, how do I use it? bsdfox wastrel sean ?
[10:03] <patrick52222> where do i get or run the widget factory
[10:03] <srecko> even gedit crashes along with it
[10:03] <bsdfox> sftp
[10:04] <srecko> Someone??
[10:04] <mike_> do any of you screen savers slow down
[10:04] <mike_> like the open gl ones
[10:04] <bsdfox> it's REALLY easy to use it you read the manual
[10:04] <srecko> my nautilus crashes when try to open file and that happen only if not root - Help
[10:04] <mike_> if not i woudlnt think it be a graphics problem
[10:05] <dasruud> mike: no
[10:05] <tooleh> What does this mean
[10:05] <tooleh> and how do I fix it
[10:05] <mike_> sounds more liek memeory
[10:05] <tooleh> error: invalid Python installation: unable to open /usr/lib/python2.4/config/Makefile (No such file or directory)
[10:05] <ubuntu_rules> can you use cmd sysmon from the terminal to open the system moniter?
[10:05] <IamEthos> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11540 <- Anyone: synaptic problem?
[10:05] <ubuntu_rules> monitor*
[10:06] <dsl_> I would like my Ubuntu server to authenticate against my ldap server.  Any tips?
[10:06] <crafteh> Bah.... I can't remove a bad package because it keeps complaining about how its dependent on other things..... what do I do?
[10:06] <nickrud> IamEthos, a first guess is hit update
[10:06] <srecko> my nautilus crashes when try to open file and that happen only if not root - Help
[10:06] <Samineru> is there a way to boot from an iso?
[10:06] <talisein> I have a sort of serious problem... some of my files seem to be disappearing on a RAID 1 reiser3 partition
[10:07] <srecko> my nautilus crashes when try to open file and that happen only if not root - Help
[10:07] <AlexC_> Hey,
[10:07] <patrick52222> does any know about widget factory#
[10:07] <mike_> are the forums down
[10:07] <AlexC_> I know this is more a GTK question - but there's only 19 people in there: How do I make the GTK Window Border's Semi-Transparent?
[10:07] <AlexC_> mike_, I think so, I can't get on them
[10:07] <srecko> yes forums are down
[10:07] <gokhans> can someone give me a start point for using linux? I am very beginner
[10:08] <srecko> man and I need help on this one
[10:08] <srecko> my nautilus crashes when try to open file and that happen only if not root - Help
[10:08] <mike_> thanks
[10:08] <IamEthos> W: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[10:08] <tuxta2> AlexC> use xgl
[10:08] <IamEthos> got that error
[10:08] <mike_> want to know hwo to get cvs 5.1.1
[10:08] <mike_> so i can play eve online
[10:08] <AlexC_> tuxta2, Is that the only way it can be done? with XGL ?
[10:08] <mike_> and what it is lol
[10:08] <talisein> I've run reiserfsck on the partition that has disappearing files, but it reports no corruption
[10:09] <AlexC_> tuxta2, what would be the code to add to my Metacity theme file then - to make it semi transparent?
[10:09] <arrick> I need help with Putty SFTP pwease?
[10:09] <tuxta2> well you can use tranparency in general, but that will effect the entire window, not just the border
[10:09] <AlexC_> hum, I only want the border relly
[10:09] <sean> arrick, I left for a moment
[10:09] <Zoroaster> using  apt-get how do I display a catalog of what is available, or how do I search if I do not know the package name exactlyZ?
[10:09] <sean> srrick, I use fireftp or somethign similar
[10:09] <arrick> ok
[10:10] <srecko> my nautilus crashes when try to open file and that happen only if not root - Help
[10:10] <arrick> I think I got it
[10:10] <dsl_> How come I can't apt-get libpam-ldap?
[10:10] <arrick> but how do i transfer them now that I am connected?
[10:10] <sean> arrick, I cannot help you much there, I have not really used windows much in 3 years, I don't know
[10:10] <duelboot> arrick, see pm for other info
[10:10] <sean> arrick, It's usually dragnDrop
[10:10] <talisein> I'm looking for some sort of place to begin looking for my files..
[10:11] <srecko> my nautilus crashes when try to open file and that happen only if not root - Help
[10:11] <wastrel> sean:  putty scp is command line.
[10:11] <wastrel> er, ftp
[10:11] <wastrel> put <filename>  to upload
[10:11] <undrai> moi
[10:11] <srecko> my nautilus crashes when try to open file and that happen only if not root, something with Gconf I think
[10:11] <dsl_> Where is libpam-ldap?
[10:12] <srecko> my nautilus crashes when try to open file and that happen only if not root, something with Gconf I think
[10:12] <wastrel> dsl_:  sudo apt-get install libpam-ldap
[10:12] <talisein> Has anyone here dealt with disappearing files on reiser3?
[10:12] <nickrud> IamEthos, you can use the gpg commands on http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic to fix that use 437D05B5 for KEY
[10:12] <dsl_> wastrel: not found?
[10:13] <ubuntu_rules> how do you know if you should use apt-get or aptitude? is it trial and error?
[10:13] <ShdwShinobi> Hey. I guess Ubuntu isn't recognizing my wireless card. How would i get it to recognize it?
[10:13] <sns> Hi! I'd like to get in touch with people who are using Xen on Ubuntu. Anyone?
[10:13] <wastrel> dsl_:  it's in universe - add the universe repo
[10:13] <ubuntu_rules> !wireless
[10:13] <srecko> forum works
[10:13] <ubotu> well, wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers
[10:13] <srecko> my nautilus crashes when try to open file and that happen only if not root, something with Gconf I think
[10:13] <dsl_> wastrel: Thanks!
[10:13] <arrick> oh ok thanke
[10:13] <trappist> srecko: what kind of file
[10:14] <ubuntu_rules> ShdwShinobi, see link from ubotu above
[10:14] <srecko> trappist: any kind
[10:14] <srecko> text, jpg any
[10:14] <ubuntu_rules> !ndiswrapper
[10:14] <ubotu> I guess ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[10:14] <ubuntu_rules> or that link
[10:14] <nickrud> ubuntu_rules, apt-get is more compliant with synaptic, aptitude has extended functionality.
[10:15] <srecko> strange that when browsing as root everything is perfect
[10:15] <ubuntu_rules> nickrud, but is there a way to tell which to use? because i have tried apt-get with no luck, but then aptitude worked...
[10:15] <ubuntu_rules> for certain files
[10:15] <duelboot> arrick, see PM
[10:16] <ubuntu_rules> sorry if i am typing a little slow right now...
[10:17] <nickrud> ubuntu_rules, hard to say anything without knowing which files. I nearly always use apt-get in the channel (except when I forget) and use aptitude personally.
[10:17] <duelboot> arrick, see one last link for the "manual" in the channel you set up
[10:17] <ruggy> as if
[10:17] <ubuntu_rules> nickrud, so just try apt-get and if that doesnt work then use aptitude? sounds easy enough
[10:17] <lkdfre> +
[10:17] <Cooner750> This works OK in Ubuntu on Firefox http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=21814   Better than the ugly buttons it comes with
[10:18] <srecko> my nautilus crashes when try to open file and that happen only if not root, something with Gconf I think
[10:18] <ubuntu_rules> i mean aptitude, then apt-get
[10:18] <nickrud> ubuntu_rules, sure,
[10:18] <ShdwShinobi> Ok, it says my wirless card "works out of the box," and is supported in the install system, but i can't get it to recognize.
[10:18] <ubuntu_rules> nickrud, ty =)
[10:18] <Cooner750> or rather http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=21812
[10:18] <DarKSyns> !dvd
[10:18] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[10:19] <ubuntu_rules> ShdwShinobi, try 'sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper' i guess...
[10:19] <srecko> my nautilus crashes when try to open file and that happen only if not root, something with Gconf I think
[10:19] <arrick> yep
[10:20] <srecko> my nautilus crashes when try to open file and that happen only if not root - no help here then ....
[10:22] <tooleh> what is the best GTK2 XMMS2 client guys?
[10:22] <tooleh> what is the best GTK2 XMMS2 client guys?
[10:22] <tooleh> ??
[10:22] <nickgarvey> best is an iffy word
[10:22] <nickgarvey> and you repeated yourself 2 times in 15 seconds
[10:23] <nickrud> srecko, if you think it's gconf, you can unset all of nautilus's keys with gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /apps/nautilus
[10:23] <mcmillen> does anyone have mysql 4 running on dapper (possibly via installation of a third-party .deb?)
[10:24] <mcmillen> i'd prefer not to build from source, but if i have to, i will :)
[10:24] <srecko> tnx I'll try
[10:24] <ruzgar> how can i understand the opengl is function
[10:24] <ruzgar> how can i understand the opengl functions
[10:24] <ruzgar> works
[10:24] <ShdwShinobi> ubuntu_rules, should i install the ndiswrapper-utils? there is no ndiswrapper for apt-get
[10:24] <dungodung> how do I enable swap?
[10:25] <wastrel> man swapon
[10:25] <gridblock> xine just closes when i try to open it :S
[10:25] <dungodung> ok
[10:25] <gustavo__> !pats
[10:25] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, gustavo__
[10:25] <gustavo__> !packs
[10:25] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, gustavo__
[10:25] <ubuntu_rules> ShdwShinobi, try 'sudo aptitude install ndiswrapper'
[10:25] <nickrud> mcmillen, mysql 4.1.15 is available in dapper
[10:26] <Jowi> dungodung: man mkswap might also help if you haven't set up a swap partition yet
[10:26] <PwcrLinux> cya later :)
[10:26] <dungodung> ok
[10:26] <mike_> installing cedega demmo
[10:26] <mike_> see if eve will work lol
[10:26] <tooleh> I tried azrael (wouldnt compile - loads of errors)
[10:26] <Cooner750> I noticed that the cursor flickers when pages are being loaded in a web brower. Is this just one of those 'Linux' things or is it fixable ?
[10:27] <srecko> nope
[10:27] <TruckerMan> i thought everybody like flickering curses
[10:27] <srecko> still crash
[10:28] <arrick> man it takes forever to get into the psftp cd's
[10:28] <dungodung> o, srecko, ima jos srba ovde ;)
[10:29] <srecko> in system log it write something like this "resolved adress xml:some paths"
[10:29] <duelboot> ShdwShinobi, still need help with wireless?
[10:29] <srecko> o dungo pozdrav
[10:29] <dungodung> :}
[10:29] <srecko> imam silnoh problema
[10:29] <dungodung> koji?
[10:29] <ubuntu_rules> ShdwShinobi, did that help?
[10:29] <ShdwShinobi> yes
[10:29] <srecko> neznam koliko si ti dobar u tome
[10:30] <ShdwShinobi> er.. no, it didn't help
[10:30] <dungodung> srecko: nov sam... pre 3 dana sam instalirao
[10:30] <srecko> hehe
[10:30] <dungodung> ma da
[10:30] <srecko> pa sa srecom
[10:30] <ubuntu_rules> idk... sry...
[10:30] <GTX> Guys, whats a decent in shell bandwidth monitor. Which will tell me how much the server is doing in bits, recevied sent etc..  and it shows me whos connected to it to what destination.
[10:30] <duelboot> ShdwShinobi, I had trouble getting it to work and had to to something...I'll do a pastebin and send the link
[10:30] <dungodung> srecko: je l znas kako da ukljucim swap a da ne sjebem nijednu particiju (btw, sve su ntfs)
[10:30] <mcmillen> nickrud: if i try "apt-get install mysql-server-4.1", i get the error "Aborting downgrade from (at least) 5.0 to 4.1"... even if i use dpkg -i --force-all, it won't install 4.1
[10:30] <srecko> tesko burazeru tesko
[10:30] <tooleh> I have a problem, whenever I load any python XMMS2 clients I get this error: ImportError: No module named xmmsclient
[10:31] <Zoroaster> using  apt-get how do I display a catalog of what is available, or how do I search if I do not know the package name exactlyZ?
[10:31] <BurgerMann> where is the repository configuartion file?
[10:31] <ShdwShinobi> ok, thanks duelboot
[10:31] <tooleh> What would that mean?
[10:31] <dungodung> srecko: sto tesko? ;)
[10:31] <srecko> my nautilus crashes when try to open file and that happen only if not root
[10:31] <nickrud> mcmillen, you'll need to remove 5.0 first then
[10:31] <wastrel> Zoroaster:  apt-cache search foo
[10:31] <TruckerMan> if i just go to debians website and download a bunch of .deb packages and install them witll i be alright? or do they have to be packaged for ubuntu?
[10:31] <Allah> Seveas, you're a faggot Seveas, you're a faggot Seveas, you're a faggot Seveas, you're a faggot Seveas, you're a faggot Seveas, you're a faggot Seveas, you're a faggot Seveas, you're a faggot Seveas, you're a faggot
[10:31] <Allah> Seveas, you're a faggot Seveas, you're a faggot Seveas, you're a faggot Seveas, you're a faggot Seveas, you're a faggot Seveas, you're a faggot Seveas, you're a faggot Seveas, you're a faggot Seveas, you're a faggot
[10:31] <Allah> Seveas, you're a faggot Seveas, you're a faggot Seveas, you're a faggot Seveas, you're a faggot Seveas, you're a faggot Seveas, you're a faggot Seveas, you're a faggot Seveas, you're a faggot Seveas, you're a faggot
[10:31] <Allah> Seveas, you're a faggot Seveas, you're a faggot Seveas, you're a faggot Seveas, you're a faggot Seveas, you're a faggot Seveas, you're a faggot Seveas, you're a faggot Seveas, you're a faggot Seveas, you're a faggot
[10:31] <srecko> probaj da pitas ovde nekoga mada forum ti je zakon
[10:31] <tooleh> :/
[10:31] <Allah> Seveas, you're a faggot Seveas, you're a faggot Seveas, you're a faggot Seveas, you're a faggot Seveas, you're a faggot Seveas, you're a faggot Seveas, you're a faggot Seveas, you're a faggot Seveas, you're a faggot
[10:31] <wastrel> !ops
[10:31] <nickrud> !ops
[10:31] <ubotu> Help! lilo, fabbione, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee
[10:31] <tooleh> hush oh omnipotent one
[10:31] <Zoroaster> wastrel, thanks
[10:31] <TruckerMan> ok, great
[10:31] <TruckerMan> if i just go to debians website and download a bunch of .deb packages and install them witll i be alright? or do they have to be packaged for ubuntu?
[10:32] <tooleh> I have a problem, whenever I load any python XMMS2 clients I get this error: ImportError: No module named xmmsclient
[10:32] <Upayavira> Anyone know of a deb for Mysql5 for Breezy? I downloaded one a while ago but can't now find it.
[10:32] <srecko> my nautilus crashes when try to open file and that happen only if not root
[10:32] <dungodung> srecko: ok, probacu sa forumom
[10:32] <tooleh> What does that mean, and how do I fix it?
[10:32] <BurgerMann> Where is the repository configuration file?
[10:32] <nickrud> BurgerMann, /etc/apt/sources.llist
[10:32] <BurgerMann> thx
[10:32] <nickrud> BurgerMann, /etc/apt/sources.list (one l)
[10:33] <GTX> Guys, whats a decent in shell bandwidth monitor. Which will tell me how much the server is doing in bits, recevied sent etc..  and it shows me whos connected to it to what destination.
[10:33] <TruckerMan> if i just go to debians website and download a bunch of .deb packages and install them witll i be alright? or do they have to be packaged for ubuntu?
[10:33] <Zoroaster> I have a windows 2000 AD domain, most of my machines are windows servers and xp workstations, with some of my linux machines I sometimes have trouble getting out through my firewall and out into the internet
[10:33] <arrick> ok, I need help setting up ftp for this thing, or even frontpage extensions for it
[10:34] <Seveas> TruckerMan, you'll be in trouble
[10:34] <tooleh> Is anyone acknowledging what I'm saying at all?
[10:34] <Seveas> tooleh, maybe 
[10:34] <Zoroaster> I've noticed that when the linux machines uses DHCP, things work fine, but when I use static ip I can talk to everything on the network exceopt for my firewall and the internet
[10:34] <George2> I just had the weirdest problem, I couldn't load ubuntu, I went into "recovery" in order to make the login work, anyone knows why or smth?
[10:35] <Zoroaster> in a static IP configuration, where do I specify my WINS server?
[10:35] <wastrel> Zoroaster:  are you setting a default gateway when you assign the static ip?
[10:35] <jobe> Zoroaster, you sure your default gateway is set correctly?
[10:35] <TruckerMan> if i just go to debians website and download a bunch of .deb packages and install them witll i be alright? or do they have to be packaged for ubuntu?
[10:35] <TruckerMan> if i just go to debians website and download a bunch of .deb packages and install them witll i be alright? or do they have to be packaged for ubuntu?
[10:35] <wastrel> wins is a windows thing, no wins on linux afaik
[10:35] <mcmillen> nickrud: any idea how i can remove all mysql 5 stuff? i just tried "dpkg -r" everything mysql-related (and everything that depends on it), and they all show as removed, but then on install it still claims that it won't overwrite 5.0 with 4.1.
[10:35] <nickrud> TruckerMan, don't.
[10:35] <Zoroaster> yes, my default gateway is set correctly
[10:35] <tooleh> Seveas: Hi  :)
[10:35] <TruckerMan> dont, gotcha
[10:35] <tooleh> Seveas: I have a problem, whenever I load any python XMMS2 clients I get this error: ImportError: No module named xmmsclient
[10:36] <crafteh> Anyone know how to get this error to go away? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=155726
[10:36] <Zoroaster> here is the thing, I do dhcp through a windows 2000 server
[10:36] <TruckerMan> nickrud, dont flood or dont use debian pkgs?
[10:36] <nickrud> mcmillen, try doing that in synaptic
[10:36] <arrick> !ftp
[10:36] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: vsftpd, proftpd
[10:36] <Cooner750> is there any good VNC server/client software for Linux (specifcally Ubuntu)?
[10:36] <nickrud> TruckerMan, both :)
[10:36] <jobe> Cooner750, its already installed
[10:36] <nickrud> TruckerMan, no binary compatibility promised, so work, no work, subtle errors are all possible
[10:37] <George2> I just had the weirdest problem, I couldn't load ubuntu, I went into "recovery" in order to make the login work, anyone knows why or smth?
[10:37] <arrick> ok, which program allows me to move files from ntfs partition to ubuntu/apache partition, with ftp?
[10:37] <Cooner750> Where?
[10:37] <srecko> my nautilus crashes when try to open file and that happen only if not root
[10:37] <Zoroaster> when you are a client of my dhcp server, you get an IP, a mask, 2 gateways (default aframe relay cisco router that just forwards on to the firewall unless destined for my other private networks, and of course my firewall/router
[10:37] <arrick> putty sftp does not go through, even though I can log in
[10:37] <jobe> Cooner750, goto applications->remote desktop you can select vnc from there for client
[10:37] <arsgeek> tightvnc works well for me.
[10:37] <Zoroaster> you also get a wins server
[10:37] <Cooner750> I found it just now :)
[10:37] <Zoroaster> and a dns server
[10:37] <asparagui> i've got a belkin kvm switch.
[10:37] <mike_> anyone know how to allow cedega to access root
[10:37] <Cooner750> "Terminal Server Client"
[10:37] <srecko> my nautilus crashes when try to open file and that happen only if not root----Please
[10:37] <asparagui> which for some reason or another, xorg can't see the native resolutions as a result
[10:37] <bimberi> Cooner750: Ubuntu comes with a client (Apps -> Internet -> Terminal Server Client) and a server for the currently logged in Desktop (System -> Preferences -> Remote Desktop)
[10:37] <TruckerMan> nickrud, what if i want to install something like a wrapper for mpg123 and i cant find one on ubuntu site
[10:37] <duelboot> ShdwShinobi:  see http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11542
[10:37] <jobe> Cooner750, actually works very well as a windows TSC
[10:38] <UbuntuNewbie> hello
[10:38] <asparagui> so it defaults to 640*480 each time.
[10:38] <TruckerMan> use tar.gz files?
[10:38] <asparagui> is there a workaround for this?
[10:38] <duelboot> ubuntu_rules see link above
[10:38] <GTX> Guys, whats a decent in shell bandwidth monitor. Which will tell me how much the server is doing in bits, recevied sent etc..  and it shows me whos connected to it to what destination.
[10:38] <arrick> ok, which program allows me to move files from ntfs partition to ubuntu/apache partition, with ftp from a xp box?
[10:38] <nickrud> TruckerMan, probably any scripting language would be ok
[10:38] <Cooner750> Is it possible to control Ubuntu remotely. Such as VNC server?
[10:38] <TruckerMan> such as?
[10:38] <TruckerMan> anything non distro specific?
[10:38] <nickrud> perl, bash, or the like
[10:38] <arrick> Cooner750, yes
[10:38] <mcmillen> nickrud: no dice in synaptic either, the console output gives the same error. perhaps i need to --purge, but i'm afraid of losing db data if i do that
[10:39] <UbuntuNewbie> Can someone help with ethernet problem
[10:39] <TruckerMan> whats the install command for a tar.gz file?
[10:39] <arrick> chris____, st it up last night Cooner750
[10:39] <mcmillen> nickrud: the client for 4.1 is now installed fine, but can't install the server
[10:39] <ubuntu_rules> UbuntuNewbie, shoot
[10:39] <srecko> my nautilus crashes when try to open file and that happen only if not root Breazy----Please
[10:39] <bimberi> GTX: 'ntop' perhaps (i've not used it)
[10:39] <nickrud> mcmillen, hm. The results of an apt-get install mysql-server-4.1 would give you some useful error messages
[10:39] <arsgeek> Cooner, if you go to system/preferences,there's a remote desktop option.
[10:39] <GTX> ok thanks bimberi :)
[10:39] <arrick> hey nickrud join #arrick
[10:39] <UbuntuNewbie> im not sure why my browser is slow getting web pages
[10:39] <nickrud> mcmillen, mentioning conflicts & the like
[10:39] <mwe> GTX: I believe netstat can show open connections
[10:40] <GTX> I want to show it live :p
[10:40] <George2> !irc
[10:40] <ubotu> irc is, like, totally, info on irc at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Relay_Chat, or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InternetRelayChat
[10:40] <Cooner750> Now it's time to test.
[10:40] <George2> !ircscripts
[10:40] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, George2
[10:40] <PwcrLinux> Hello, i'm sorry.. I'm back
[10:40] <avu> hi
[10:40] <clvn> Hello! I realy need help updating my kernel to > 2.6.14.. I dunno where to start reading/looking. I found this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=84174 (How-To: 2.6.14 Vanilla Kernel (latest)),, But my distro fails in the first thing in the list of ToDo:/ It fails here:  sudo apt-get install build-essential bin86 kernel-package
[10:40] <avu> is there any chance of repairing a broken partition table? I have reason to believe at least some of the partitions are ok, the table however is completly fscked
[10:40] <clvn> Anny suggestions?
[10:40] <ubuntu_rules> UbuntuNewbie, bad connection? idk...  mine is faster than it was on my windoze box
[10:40] <GTX> bimberi, Wed Apr  5 21:37:47 2006  **FATAL_ERROR** ....open of /var/lib/ntop/prefsCache.db failed: File open error
[10:40] <GTX> how I fix that?
[10:40] <duelboot> ShdwShinobi, it may take a little tweaking on your part, but that should work... in addition you can intstall ndiswrapper-utils and ndisgtk (the latter is a gui for loading your driver)
[10:40] <PwcrLinux> Okay, how I can change mouse pointer to enlarge due my vision need to see large mouse pointer..
[10:41] <arkanis> hi
[10:41] <UbuntuNewbie> i know my internet is working cause i can update programs  very fast
[10:41] <srecko> my nautilus crashes when try to open file and that happen only if not root Breazy - it's not problem with nautilus even gedit crashes when open some file
[10:41] <mwe> GTX: netstat --ip will show connections
[10:41] <nickgarvey> system > preferences > mouse > cursors
[10:41] <ubuntu_rules> UbuntuNewbie, have you changed your browser settings?
[10:41] <PwcrLinux> nickgarvey: okay let me look at it now
[10:41] <arrick> How to set up an ftp server on a ubuntu/apache system?
[10:42] <GTX> mwe. I need it to show open connections, bandwidth per second, and everything i said and it has to be live not like netstat.
[10:42] <arkanis> Has somebody experience with the ibm thinkpad z60m and ubuntu?
[10:42] <George2> Anyone knows how I can be able to integrate my mIRC scripts (windows) into any IRC client on ubuntu?
[10:42] <wastrel> PwcrLinux:  sudo apt-get install xcursor-themes
[10:42] <ruzgar> how can i load a iso image
[10:42] <ruzgar> ?
[10:42] <scorchsaber> George2: Are they in Python, or what?
[10:42] <nickgarvey> !iso
[10:42] <ubotu> iso is, like, totally, download Ubuntu at http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ and for help burning the CD, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto
[10:42] <bimberi> GTX: i've not used it - if noone here knows you might hate to resort to google
[10:42] <bimberi> !mountiso
[10:42] <ubotu> To mount an ISO image file, you can use "sudo mount -o loop <image-file> <mount-point>" from a shell (for example, "sudo mount -o loop Ubuntu.iso /mnt/loop", if /mnt/loop exists)
[10:42] <PwcrLinux> nickgarvey: it's only default mouse pointer, where's other one?
[10:43] <wastrel> PwcrLinux:  sudo apt-get install xcursor-themes
[10:43] <George2> I dont know if they are in Python really scorchsaber
[10:43] <arrick> _jason, have you ever set up FTP servie before/
[10:43] <arrick> ?
[10:43] <PwcrLinux> wastrel: ah okay, let me try
[10:43] <mcmillen> nickrud: all i get is "subprocess installation script returned error exit status 1", after the "aborting downgrade" message.
[10:43] <Sh4d0x> hi all
[10:43] <scorchsaber> George2: If you didn't make them yourself, then you'll probably have a hard time converting them. Best to look for new ones, or program some yourself.
[10:44] <clvn> how do i update my kernel from 2.6.12 -> 2.6.14?
[10:44] <arrick> sean, have you ever set up an ftp on an ubuntu/apache server?
[10:44] <George2> scorchsaber, mIRC uses it's own scripting language,
[10:44] <srecko> my nautilus crashes when try to open file and that happen only if not root Breazy - it's not problem with nautilus even gedit crashes when open some file
[10:44] <duelboot> Sh4d0x, welcome back
[10:44] <ubuntu_rules> George2, pastebin and paste link here of some code...  i know a LITTLE python...
[10:44] <nickrud> mcmillen, do aptitude search mysql in a terminal, see what's installed (i at the beginning of the line)
[10:44] <scorchsaber> George2: Do a google search for a converter, but I really doubt that they can be
[10:44] <Sh4d0x> duelboot: hi there =D
[10:44] <ubuntu_rules> George2, you can also ask in #python
[10:44] <arrick> !ftp
[10:44] <_harm> i just saw a movie about novells XGL desktop thing.. is there a package for it?
[10:44] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: vsftpd, proftpd
[10:44] <PwcrLinux> wastrel: it's says Reading package lists... Done
[10:44] <PwcrLinux> Building dependency tree... Done
[10:44] <PwcrLinux> E: Couldn't find package xcursor-themes
[10:45] <UbuntuNewbie> i've compared setting with other browser and i don't see any diffence
[10:45] <Seveas> !tell _harm about xgl
[10:45] <wastrel> PwcrLinux:  it's in universe, you
[10:45] <nickgarvey> PwcrLinux: I found it in my repos, do you have universe and multiverse on?
[10:45] <scorchsaber> ubuntu_rules: The scripts are in some other scripting language exclusive to mIRC
[10:45] <wastrel> 'll need to add the universe repo
[10:45] <ubuntu_rules> oh
[10:45] <nickgarvey> that is one big mouse
[10:45] <nickgarvey> woo
[10:45] <wastrel> heh yea
[10:45] <ubuntu_rules> UbuntuNewbie, is it ANY site, or certain ones?
[10:45] <Sh4d0x> duelboot: no extually not =D i'm on fresh format (once more)
[10:46] <nickgarvey> haha its so small
[10:46] <Sulle-> what does this mean, and what to do about it The video output is in use by another application. Please close other video applications, or select another video output in the Multimedia Systems Selector.
[10:46] <nickgarvey> thanks wastrel heh
[10:46] <PwcrLinux> nickgarvey: where I check the settings?
[10:46] <tooleh> is there any way to play sound in the reat two speakers?
[10:46] <PwcrLinux> in the repos
[10:46] <nickgarvey> !repos
[10:46] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[10:46] <tooleh> as well as the front to?
[10:46] <andrewski> how do i find which package owns a specified file?
[10:46] <duelboot> sh4d0x, what's the issue?  was it sound for you?
[10:46] <dsl_> Okay, this is weird.  I can ssh into my ubuntu box that's authenticating against ldap from some hosts, but not others?
[10:46] <tooleh> as i fucking hate just having it on the front to
[10:46] <Sulle-> plz pm me the answer for this : The video output is in use by another application. Please close other video applications, or select another video output in the Multimedia Systems Selector. PM PM :) thnx in advanced.
[10:46] <tooleh> and linux....is....pissing...me....off
[10:46] <nickgarvey> !LANGUAGE
[10:46] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[10:46] <UbuntuNewbie> all sites
[10:46] <PwcrLinux> brb..
[10:47] <tooleh> Well if you actually tried to answer my questions every so often maybe I wouldn't be so mad...
[10:47] <nickgarvey> !patience
[10:47] <ubuntu_rules> UbuntuNewbie, idk...  what browser are you running?
[10:47] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Please be aware there are a lot of questions, but only maybe few who might know the answer for you. Please be patient. Your attitude may determine their willingness to help you.
[10:47] <bimberi> andrewski: dpkg -S /path/to/file
[10:47] <Sh4d0x> duelboot: by installing 3D desktop my xserver crashed, couldn't fix it, so i did a format once more =D
[10:47] <srecko> my nautilus crashes when try to open file and that happen only if not root Breazy - it's not problem with nautilus even gedit crashes when open some file
[10:47] <UbuntuNewbie> firefox
[10:47] <zoor2> Hmm I have a problem. I'm trying to get my webcam to work with the qc software. Now I have the module file. But how do I load it into the kernel?
[10:47] <ShdwShinobi> i'm working on it :p
[10:47] <ubuntu_rules> !firefox
[10:47] <andrewski> bimberi: geez oh pete.  why do i miss that every time in the manpage??
[10:47] <tooleh> I know you're volunteers but maybe at least some acknowledgement that anyone is listening to what I'm saying
[10:47] <duelboot> sh4d0x, stay away from it...nothing to see...hehe
[10:47] <ShdwShinobi> how do you delete directories via command line?
[10:47] <duelboot> ShdwShinobi, got my PM?
[10:47] <Seveas> tooleh, maybe no one is able to help
[10:47] <bimberi> andrewski: :)
[10:47] <Sh4d0x> duelboot: lol =D
[10:47] <nickgarvey> tooleh: Id on't know the answer to your question, I don't know if anyone else does, if you can't take it easy then I don't see why anyone would want to help you
[10:47] <andrewski> bimberi: every time i look there for it, i miss it.  i'm putting this in my handy commands file. :)
[10:48] <andrewski> bimberi: thanx
[10:48] <zoor2> Sh4d0x, rm -R /name/of/the/dir
[10:48] <bimberi> andrewski: np :)
[10:48] <srecko> my nautilus crashes when try to open file and that happen only if not root Breazy - it's not problem with nautilus even gedit crashes when open some file
[10:48] <tooleh> Seveas: Surely someone else here has surround speakers, and likes their music to come out the rear ones?
[10:48] <ShdwShinobi> thanks
[10:48] <ubuntu_rules> idk...  any able to help UbuntuNewbie with his problem?
[10:48] <George2> scorchsaber, ubuntu_rules my scripts are a bit too advanced... the ones I use anyway, there are noob scripts, thata rel ike 1-line snippets, that you guys might help me with, and I' just read some stuff in some forums, and it said  therear en o converters :(
[10:48] <Sh4d0x> duelboot:  then i haven't evan mentioned my formats in windows =D you don't wanne know that number :p
[10:48] <Seveas> tooleh, you'd think... (I'm not that someone though)
[10:48] <Seveas> ! tell tooleh about support
[10:48] <ubotu> Seveas: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:48] <Seveas> !tell tooleh about support
[10:48] <scorchsaber> George2: It may be benificial to learn a language like Python for scripting
[10:49] <duelboot> sh4d0x, no I played around with the install several times...wanted to document what I did to get it where i like it...doc is coming along
[10:49] <ubuntu_rules> George2, did you try the #python channel?
[10:49] <Seveas> scorchsaber, s/may be/is/ 
[10:49] <tooleh> in the forums, threads just get ignored and eventually drop off the first page.
[10:49] <UbuntuNewbie> one last question
[10:49] <possie> is the ubuntu shipit *really* free? i'm wonder how they could possibly do that
[10:49] <George2> I will join i now ubuntu_rules
[10:49] <scorchsaber> Seveas ?
[10:49] <tooleh> :(
[10:49] <srecko> my nautilus crashes when try to open file and that happen only if not root, even gedit crashes when open some file
[10:49] <Seveas> tooleh, ther is the mailing list and the launchpad support pages
[10:49] <ubuntu_rules> 
[10:49] <Seveas> possie, a multi-millionaire sponsor
[10:49] <zoor2> no one knows how to add a module into the kernel?
[10:49] <ubuntu_rules> how do you do that smiley?
[10:49] <UbuntuNewbie> does Ubuntu not allow you to go to root user
[10:49] <Seveas> and yes, it's 100% free
[10:49] <wastrel> if i had a fancy gaming rig with surround sound i would be gaming, not running a 15 year old text-based network app.
[10:50] <nickrud> !tell UbuntuNewbie about root
[10:50] <Seveas> !tell UbuntuNewbie about root
[10:50] <scorchsaber> George2: I hope to see you in #python
[10:50] <bimberi> tooleh: this perhaps? - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SurroundSound
[10:50] <ubuntu_rules> UbuntuNewbie, you need to enable root acct
[10:50] <George2> scorchsaber,  am trying to join it
[10:50] <possie> Seveas, still :-)
[10:50] <Seveas> duelboot, women... if it's not MS then it's PMS ;)
[10:50] <George2> ah I have to register my nicknname
[10:50] <scorchsaber> George2: You need to register your nick to join
[10:50] <Sh4d0x> duelboot: it works fine now, and it's a very nice tool, my prob was i haddn't enabled the nvidia driver that's why it couldn't recognize the output, but ass i told it runs fine now =D
[10:50] <duelboot> lol Seveas
[10:50] <srecko> my nautilus crashes when try to open file and that happen only if not root, even gedit crashes when open some file
[10:50] <George2> yeah i noticed scorchsaber
[10:50] <nickgarvey> haha nice  Seveas
[10:50] <Seveas> possie, it won't be free forever
[10:50] <duelboot> sweet sh4dox
[10:50] <scorchsaber> George2: My bad :)
[10:50] <UbuntuNewbie> what does it mean enable root acct
[10:51] <Sh4d0x> duelboot: yeah
[10:51] <possie> Seveas, just to promote it at the moment?
[10:51] <Seveas> possie, it helps *A LOT*
[10:51] <ubuntu_rules> UbuntuNewbie, the root account is disabled by default
[10:51] <nickrud> UbuntuNewbie, allow you to log in as root, sudo will give you all the privileges you will need
[10:51] <MidMark> people I need help, my ubuntu 5.10 won't boot anymore
[10:51] <Seveas> shipit sends more than 100.000 cds per week
[10:51] <possie> Seveas, i can imagine
[10:51] <bluefoxicy> hey
[10:51] <nickgarvey> the cds are very pretty too
[10:51] <Sh4d0x> duelboot: there are only 2 thing i can't get working on ubuntu but i quit searching for solutions
[10:51] <bluefoxicy> has anyone tried setting up ldap
[10:51] <bluefoxicy> and noticed that GDM hangs at log-in
[10:51] <nickrud> that many !!
[10:51] <bluefoxicy> but you can log in on ssh or shell?
[10:51] <duelboot> sh4d0x, and they are?
[10:52] <PwcrLinux> wastrel: Hmmm I cannot find the settings either in update manager or synpatic manager.
[10:52] <bimberi> !xhangs
[10:52] <ubotu> If the GUI hangs after logging in, use <ctrl><alt><f1> to switch to text mode. Log in and do: rm .{X,ICE}authority
[10:52] <ubuntu_rules> UbuntuNewbie, sudo works fine...  when it asks for pwd, use the pwd for the acct you are logged into
[10:52] <Seveas> bluefoxicy, homedir error?
[10:52] <bluefoxicy> Seveas:  negatory.
[10:52] <Azertyuuu> i have:
[10:52] <Azertyuuu> nvidia-kernel-2.6.15-1-586tsc (version 1.0.7174+4-2.6)
[10:52] <Azertyuuu> i want to install:
[10:52] <P__> hello, may I ask if Ubuntu is a recommended distrib for software development ?
[10:52] <Azertyuuu> nvidia-glx (version 1.0.8178-2 ->> because version 1.0.7174+4-2.6 gives an error,can't install at all)
[10:52] <Azertyuuu> + nvidia-glx-dev
[10:52] <UbuntuNewbie> what program do i use to enable the root account
[10:52] <Azertyuuu> BUT, this will automaticly install nvidia-kernel-2.6.15-1-486 (version1.0.8178)
[10:52] <ruzgar> i try to run starcraft with wine but that give "font/font.gid" error
[10:52] <ruzgar> ?
[10:52] <Seveas> P__, it is 
[10:52] <bluefoxicy> bluefox@iceslab:~$ pwd
[10:52] <arrick> Can somebody walk me through setting up a ftp connection, so I can get my wepsite up?
[10:52] <bluefoxicy> /home/bluefox
[10:52] <tooleh> bimberi: interesting....might be some motivation to use xmms
[10:52] <Sh4d0x> duelboot: my wifi (like now i'm on windows because it's the only os in wich it works) and irda
[10:52] <ubuntu_rules> !tell Azertyuuu about pastebin
[10:52] <bluefoxicy> Seveas:  it's gdm hanging, not gnome.
[10:52] <Seveas> !tell UbuntuNewbie about root
[10:52] <nickgarvey> arrick: website or ftp server?
[10:52] <arrick> I already forwarded the ports
[10:52] <duelboot> sh4d0x, what's the wifi problem?
[10:52] <Seveas> UbuntuNewbie, read what ubotu sent
[10:52] <scorchsaber> George2: Are you George007 on #python?
[10:52] <tooleh> bimberi: How would this be done in xmms2?
[10:52] <P__> Seveas, ok, will install it as son as it's downloaded
[10:53] <George007> yes scorchsaber
[10:53] <George007> I am George007 here as well scorchsaber  =)
[10:53] <srecko> my nautilus crashes when try to open file and that happen only if not root, even gedit crashes when open some file
[10:53] <arrick> nickgarvey, its a webserver, I cant get files to transfer to it, so I can paste my site into it
[10:53] <nickgarvey> P__: there are live CD's also, you might want to play with them first
[10:53] <duelboot> sh4d0x, using WPA?
[10:53] <ubuntu_rules> !tell UbuntuNewbie about root
[10:53] <scorchsaber> George007:Oops
[10:53] <bimberi> tooleh: no idea, just searched the wiki for 'surround' for you :)
[10:53] <wastrel> PwcrLinux:  are you comfortable editing configuration files?
[10:53] <ubuntu_rules> read that
[10:53] <arrick> I already tried the putty sftp thing and it dont work
[10:53] <nickgarvey> arrick: mm I use scp, but ftp is easy
[10:53] <arrick> ok
[10:53] <possie> was there allready a release date for dapper?
[10:53] <nickgarvey> arrick: from windows to linux?
[10:53] <nickgarvey> arrick: is that it?
[10:53] <arrick> nick yeah
[10:53] <P__> nickgarvey, yes, downloading both, it's for a laptop, but a recent one i don't think i ll have problems
[10:53] <anstei> possie: 1st june
[10:53] <bluefoxicy> bimberi: removing those files does nothing.
[10:53] <Seveas> possie, june 1st
[10:53] <Seveas> !dapper
[10:53] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[10:54] <nickgarvey> arrick: download "winscp"
[10:54] <arrick> can you tell me in #arrick nickgarvey /
[10:54] <MidMark> guys help me, my ubuntu doesn't work anymore
[10:54] <arrick> ?
[10:54] <possie> :-) thanks
[10:54] <arrick> ok
[10:54] <bluefoxicy> bimberi:  that kind of hang happens when GDM goes away and gnome tries to start; I have the gDM screen with the password box with circles in it hanging.
[10:54] <Seveas> !doesn't work
[10:54] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day?  Does it want more money?  Is it on IRC all the time?  Please be specific!  Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[10:54] <Sh4d0x> duelboot: wifi is my eth1 when i activate it, it give a signale (strong) but i cant connect to my router
[10:54] <duelboot> !ask
[10:54] <nickrud> tooleh, if you set the output of xmms2 to alsa, it should work automatically
[10:54] <bimberi> bluefoxicy: yes, as you said, it's GDM not login :/
[10:54] <bluefoxicy> Hell I can still hit the SESSION menu right now and toy with it.
[10:54] <MidMark> it boots and then it stopped after a forced hdd check
[10:54] <ubuntu_rules> !botsnack
[10:54] <ubotu> :)
[10:54] <bluefoxicy> but the password box is completely greyed  o.o
[10:54] <duelboot> sh4d0x, can you PM?
[10:54] <George007> scorchsaber, how can I add a channel that requires a key to join to an "auto join" list, like "perform" in mIRC
[10:54] <PwcrLinux> wastrel: Hmm not sure about confs.. I am on breezy 5.10
[10:54] <ubuntu_rules> ubotu has been working very hard
[10:54] <ubotu> ubuntu_rules: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:54] <jenda-zZz> Dammit. Any reason <Ctrl><Alt><F1> shouldn't work, when each of the keys works OK?
[10:54] <Sh4d0x> duelboot: aye, i'll try
[10:54] <bluefoxicy> Interestingly, ldap is working; my user is not in /etc/shadow or /etc/passwd
[10:54] <Seveas> bluefoxicy, pam misconfiguration?
[10:54] <MidMark> it says that I have to force a manual fsck
[10:55] <bluefoxicy> jenda-zZz:  left CTRL and ALT
[10:55] <tooleh> nickrud: How exactly do I do this?
[10:55] <bluefoxicy> Seveas:  looks fine to me.
[10:55] <MidMark> I have done it and now grub won't work anymore
[10:55] <MidMark> give me error 15
[10:55] <bluefoxicy> Seveas:  what would be misconfigured that would let ssh and console log-in work but not gdm?
[10:55] <jenda-zZz> bluefoxicy: yup, the same I always use, now dont' work... *puzzled*
[10:55] <sovieticool> yo hy all
[10:55] <klm> hello people! I'm new to Ubuntu and installing it on a harddrive with windows in it. it has 80gb and is split to C and D drives (D only 5 gigs), and there's about 10 gigs of free space on C. Can Ubuntu Breezy installer cd handle the installation automaticly so Ubuntu will install as a primary operation system aside windws on the remaining 10 gigs of C?
[10:55] <MidMark> so is there a chance to have my data back
[10:55] <Seveas> bluefoxicy, pam to me is still close to voodoo so I really wouldn't knoe
[10:55] <bluefoxicy> Seveas:  AND sudo btw.  If I pull my network cable and 'sudo' it hangs until I plug the cable back in :)
[10:55] <Seveas> know even*
[10:55] <possie> Seveas, hope the make a better default wallpaper this time :-)
[10:55] <nickrud> tooleh, personally, I've never even heard of xmms2
[10:56] <sovieticool> messenger from yahoo can work on ubuntu ?
[10:56] <bluefoxicy> possie:  we already had asses for wallpaper, next year it's going to be tits.
[10:56] <UbuntuNewbie> please forgive i am very new also to irc
[10:56] <pulver> hello everybody! :) succeded adding an extra gnome panel but the damn thing takes up desktop space even when maximizing applications, how you tell it not to do so anymore?? i want to cover the ugly thing behind windowses...
[10:56] <Seveas> bluefoxicy, `hostname` missing from /etc/hosts? "!fqdn" missing from /etc/sudoers
[10:56] <PwcrLinux> sovieticool: use Gaim
[10:56] <tooleh> nickrud, bimberi: Alsa output on XMMS1 is choppy jittery - any idea why?
[10:56] <ubuntu_rules> klm personally i would put it on D drive and use bootitng to dual boot, if you wanna go that route
[10:56] <nickgarvey> !tell klm about dualboot
[10:56] <bimberi> klm: if C isn't fragmented the installer can resize it to make space - back up first though
[10:56] <toxic__> How do I enable non-root user access to windows partitions ? I created a link (ln) to /media/hda1/folder, but only root can access it ...
[10:56] <bluefoxicy> bluefox@iceslab:~$ cat /etc/hosts
[10:56] <ubuntu_rules> klm, ubuntu is not that big
[10:56] <bluefoxicy> 127.0.0.1       localhost.localdomain   localhost       iceslab
[10:56] <possie> bluefoxicy, was that true about the "asses" i heard (that ubuntu guy, forgot his name) talking about it at fosdem, you got a url perhaps ? :-)
[10:56] <sovieticool> yeah is nice but i can't log me invisible mode :(
[10:56] <bluefoxicy> Seveas:  what does fqdn do?
[10:56] <Seveas> toxic__, umask=0000 as mount option
[10:57] <bluefoxicy> Seveas:  i don't think gdm cares about sudoers :o
[10:57] <jenda-zZz> OK, temporary solution: anyone know how to invoke a blank screen manually, while keeping the automatic settings of the screensaver?
[10:57] <wastrel> PwcrLinux:  copy your /etc/apt/sources.list to a safe place, then   sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:57] <UbuntuNewbie> found the terminal program
[10:57] <Seveas> bluefoxicy, sudo does an fqdn check if '!fqdn' is missing from /etc/sudoers
[10:57] <Seveas> in the defaults line
[10:57] <UbuntuNewbie> not sure what parameters to put after 'sudo'
[10:57] <toxic__> Seveas, that would give everyone access .. I just want this user to have access to the folder and it's subfolders where this link is pointing
[10:57] <Seveas> shouldn't mess up gdm though
[10:57] <Cooner750> why is it asking to connect to the computer it's running on when I go to Network Servers
[10:57] <Cooner750> ?
[10:57] <bluefoxicy> Seveas:  sudo works as long as teh cable is plugged in :)
[10:57] <UbuntuNewbie> i tried man sudo
[10:57] <MidMark> so no help?
[10:57] <klm> ok thanks people
[10:58] <bluefoxicy> Seveas:  I tried yanking the cable to see if sudo would fail to authenticate.
[10:58] <MidMark> how can I recover my ubuntu from data lost?
[10:58] <PwcrLinux> wastrel: I rather not do edit, and I have to find other way to get a mouse pointer settings.
[10:58] <Seveas> bluefoxicy, that's why I'm thinking: hostname missing from /etc/hosts so it uses dns
[10:58] <ubuntu_rules> UbuntuNewbie, i put the terminal as superL hotkey (windoze button), you can also use alt+F2 and type gnome-terminal
[10:58] <sovieticool> how i know if i'am invisible on gaim (newbie q )
[10:58] <Overand> toxic__: give that user's group access.  if it's just going to be root and that user, chown username:groupname that-thing
[10:58] <Seveas> and no net == no dns
[10:58] <sovieticool> ?
[10:58] <zegnus> hi !
[10:58] <bluefoxicy> Seveas:  well, the cable is plugged in right now
[10:58] <wastrel> PwcrLinux:  i don't know how to help then - i am not familiar with synaptic :/
[10:58] <bluefoxicy> Seveas: and the ldap server is entered as an IP address.
[10:58] <toxic__> Overand, ah, good point thanks
[10:58] <zegnus> anybody have a tv usb ok in linux ? (i'm using ubuntu dapper)
[10:58] <BurgerMann> How do I manage what ports are opened and not? Must be some conf file in /etc/ or somehting?
[10:59] <jenda-zZz> Any reason <Ctrl><Alt><F1> shouldn't work, when each of the keys works OK, and they worked just a while ago? Been using: XMMS, Xchat, Firefox, OO.org, terminal, GAIM, Skype and I set the Meta key instead of the alt for moving windows...
[10:59] <klm> there's a 'system reinstall' application on the 5gig D drive, is it safe to install Ubuntu atop it?
[10:59] <Overand> sovieticool: tools - away - (etc)
[10:59] <bluefoxicy> Seveas:  rogue SIGCHILD handler in pam_ldap.so?
[10:59] <wastrel> PwcrLinux:  my sources.list file contents are here:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11543    fyi :] 
[10:59] <ubuntu_rules> klm in that case no
[10:59] <nickgarvey> !tell zegnus about dapper
[10:59] <klm> ok so the only way is to resize C, and that might cause some dataloss?
[11:00] <ubuntu_rules> klm, that sysrestore is your backup iso for windows...  should not mess with that if you want MS on your box as well
[11:00] <sovieticool> i get it :) i put myself in my list and i can se my status :)))
[11:00] <ploom> jenda-zZz, did you mean xscreensaver-command -activate?
[11:00] <zegnus> nickgarvey, what ? xd
[11:00] <Cooner750> anyone?
[11:00] <nickrud> !tell BurgerMann about firewall
[11:00] <Jowi> toxic__: how about setting up a group for access?
[11:00] <Sh4d0x> tonyyarusso: hi there =D it's been a while
[11:00] <UbuntuNewbie> thanks for the info. on terminal shortcut
[11:00] <toxic__> Jowi, yeah I just got that tip, thx though
[11:00] <nickgarvey> zegnus: this is breezy, #ubuntu+! is dapper
[11:00] <ubuntu_rules> klm, you said you have 10gb left on c?
[11:00] <jenda-zZz> ploom: nope - i have settings there, other than blank screen. I would like a blank screen command.
[11:00] <UbuntuNewbie> im still lost on what command to use to enable the root account
[11:00] <klm> ubuntu_rules: yes
[11:00] <zegnus> nickgarvey, ahh !! ok thanks !
[11:00] <Overand> zegnus: he/she means ubuntu+1
[11:01] <jenda-zZz> ploom: perhaps... is there a parameter for that?
[11:01] <nickgarvey> UbuntuNewbie: sudo passwd root
[11:01] <ubuntu_rules> klm, what MS os?
[11:01] <nickgarvey> I believe
[11:01] <bimberi> UbuntuNewbie: to get a root shell - 'sudo -i'
[11:01] <arrick> thanks nickgarvey you r d man
[11:01] <BurgerMann> nickrud. I'm running a server with no X installed :S
[11:01] <klm> I'm actually asking these for a friend, just a sec
[11:01] <nickrud> UbuntuNewbie, preface a command you want to run as root with sudo, and use your own password
[11:01] <PwcrLinux> wastrel: Oh!, unsupported stuffs look very risky to me.
[11:01] <Cooner750> I went to Connect to Server and typed in the internal IP of the Ubuntu box upstairs and it asks for a username and password, but when I enter the information it just asks again
[11:01] <nickgarvey> klm: DEFRAG!  beforey ou move anything defrag
[11:01] <ploom> jenda-zZz, don't know others - man xscreensaver-command can help I guess...
[11:01] <sovieticool> know somebody how to set xmms to be compatible whit 5.1 sistem sound ?
[11:01] <nickrud> BurgerMann, then you want to install shorewall. If you don't plan on running any servers, you don't even need one
[11:02] <jenda-zZz> ploom: just skimmed it - not there. nevermind
[11:02] <jenda-zZz> nighto
[11:02] <nickrud> BurgerMann, doh. no X ~ server :)
[11:02] <ubuntu_rules> klm, yes...  what nickrud said...   and backup the drive
[11:02] <bimberi> Cooner750: which 'Service Type'?
[11:02] <nickrud> ubuntu_rules, what'd I say?
[11:02] <ubuntu_rules> nickrud, defrag lol
[11:02] <Cooner750> Windows share. There's a SMB share
[11:03] <Cooner750> named 'music' on the computer
[11:03] <Bambino> How do i check what 64bit amd i have?
[11:03] <klm> ok thank you
[11:03] <bluefoxicy> Seveas:  i am filing ab ug.
[11:03] <nickrud> ubuntu_rules, ok, good advice :)
[11:03] <Bambino> i remember somthing with "urname".
[11:03] <wastrel> PwcrLinux:  it's still pretty safe- i haven't had any problems...  :] 
[11:03] <Overand> Bambino: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[11:03] <sovieticool> know somebody how to set xmms to be compatible whit 5.1 sistem sound ?
[11:03] <toxic__> Overand, it doesn't quite seem to work. I've set owner:group to be me as owner and my group, and all rights are set to +rwx, i still can't enter the folder
[11:03] <Bambino> Overand, , thank you. What does "cat" stand for?
[11:03] <ubuntu_rules> klm, so is your friend running xp?
[11:03] <Overand> Bambino: 'cat' i THINK is catalog.  it just displays a file or stream
[11:03] <carthik> concatenate, Bambino
[11:03] <Overand> toxic__: you may need to log out and log back in
[11:03] <klm> ubuntu_rules: yes
[11:03] <Cooner750> Should I use something like NFS instead?   Where do I set the workgroup name for SMB in Ubuntu?
[11:03] <Bambino> Overand, thanks
[11:04] <toxic__> Overand, ok thx
[11:04] <Bambino> carthik, oh thank you!
[11:04] <Overand> yeah carthik is right
[11:04] <Overand> not me
[11:04] <Overand> heh
[11:04] <PwcrLinux> wastrel: oh well, have to wait the update manager comes up..
[11:04] <Cooner750> Nothing shows up under "Windows Network"..
[11:04] <ubuntu_rules> klm, go into the partition manager (if you cant find it try bootitng...  its a free download)
[11:04] <Jowi> Cooner750: /etc/samba/smb.conf
[11:04] <Overand> heh.  configuring samba.  yay.  =] 
[11:04] <toxic__> Overand, I guess just su:ing to account and back doesn't count ?
[11:04] <bluefoxicy> ok
[11:04] <bluefoxicy> what crackhead
[11:04] <bimberi> Cooner750: have you set up the samba password on the machine offering the share?
[11:04] <ubuntu_rules> resize there, after you defrag and backup/create a restore point
[11:05] <ploom> jenda-zZz, eh - actually the man page does say someything about xset dpms force off
[11:05] <bluefoxicy> put the bugs and such in the LEFT SIDE OF THE SCREEN?!
[11:05] <UbuntuNewbie> yay got my root account activated
[11:05] <bimberi> Cooner750: sudo smbpasswd -a <username>
[11:05] <klm> ubuntu_rules: ok but there's a pretty good partition manager on the installer too, isn't there?
[11:05] <Cooner750> I dont believe so. I just added the folder to 'Shared folders'.
[11:05] <UbuntuNewbie> thank you so much
[11:05] <carthik> I dist-upgraded to dapper, and now I get an error saying "ALERT! /dev/mapper/Ubuntu-root does not exist. Dropping to a shell!" when I try to boot. How do i fix this issue?
[11:05] <ubuntu_rules> then install ubuntu =)
[11:05] <ubuntu_rules> sure
[11:05] <ploom> jenda-zZz, you could look man xset for further details :-)
[11:05] <Cooner750> On my Mac when I try to connect to it, I get "Invalid username or password"
[11:05] <bluefoxicy> not comfortable.
[11:05] <zegnus> I have cynergy hybrid T usb xs connected, and I see it in device manager, but I don't see it in dmesg and is not in /dev/video0, anybody can help me ? (is a tv tuner)
[11:05] <bimberi> Cooner750: give that a try then :)
[11:05] <bluefoxicy> there better be an option somewhere for this.
[11:05] <Jowi> carthik: try ask in #ubuntu+1
[11:05] <jenda-zZz> ploom: zZz... but thanks
[11:05] <ubuntu_rules> UbuntuNewbie, you should not keep your root active...  someone could brute-force you...  that is the only username that they know of...
[11:06] <carthik> Jowi, I have
[11:06] <ubuntu_rules> so thats what they will try
[11:06] <Jowi> carthik: ah. :)
[11:06] <Cooner750> I really need to get the VNC server running on the thing upstairs so I dont have to keep running up and down. I'll do that while i'm up there:)
[11:06] <bimberi> bluefoxicy: yes it seems to change weekly :/
[11:06] <bluefoxicy> bimberi:  up-right is the easiest direction for right-handed people to move the mouse (I'd imagine up-left would be for left handed people), they put the most used section of the screen in the opposite direction.
[11:07] <ubuntu_rules> UbuntuNewbie, not that you really have anything of serious value (to my knowledge)
[11:07] <ubuntu_rules> =)
[11:07] <UbuntuNewbie> true
[11:07] <klm> my friend wants to install ubuntu aside windows just to backup his files from a messed up windows system. how practicable is that?
[11:07] <ubuntu_> hello
[11:07] <bimberi> bluefoxicy: HIG is a black art indeed :P
[11:07] <UbuntuNewbie> hi ubutu_
[11:07] <ubuntu_rules> so i dont think anyone will really spend all that time and energy on it
[11:07] <jake1> i have a question
[11:07] <nickgarvey> klm: why bother? have him grab a live cd and toss them on a USB drive
[11:08] <ubuntu_rules> jake1, shoot
[11:08] <George007> Is there a way to find out what errors I get @ boot time?
[11:08] <Cooner750_> I get the error "bash: Syntax error near unexpected token 'newline'"
[11:08] <jake1> i kinda stopped following the project for a little bit
[11:08] <jake1> but...
[11:08] <toxic__> Overand, ok I happened to only edit the link. Anyway, as root, chown gives me a "operation not allowed" on my windows folder .. Why is that ?
[11:08] <nickgarvey> klm: he could partition his computer and make a fat32 partition and copyt hem with the live cd
[11:08] <Bambino> Two questions. 1: How do i scroll up in xterminal? 2: How do i install all the updates etc that i need? 3: Any short command to open the terminal? (ok that was three questions)
[11:08] <jake1> has there been a leep towards Ubuntu on the Intel Duo
[11:08] <bimberi> Cooner750: what did you type?
[11:08] <ubuntu_> my computer doesn't boot abymore..it says no boot device..press f1 to continue..or f2 to enter setup
[11:08] <jake1> macBook
[11:08] <nickgarvey> Bambino: shift up, apt-get update && apt-get upgrade, alt tab terminal
[11:08] <ubuntu_> could that mean hard drive gone?
[11:08] <nickgarvey> alt f2 terminal*
[11:08] <bluefoxicy> bimberi:  think about it.  The control box is in the top right corner of every window; the 'resize corner' is in the bottom right even though you can use any corner..
[11:08] <jake1> Ubuntu_ is there a boot device?
[11:08] <nickgarvey> shift page up*
[11:09] <nickrud> toxic__, you can't write to ntfs by default
[11:09] <bluefoxicy> nothing is in the bottom left, but the least used thing is in the top left
[11:09] <ubuntu_> yes....i have windows xp home on a hard drive
[11:09] <Cooner750_> I typed (without quotes) sudo smbpasswd -a <conor>
[11:09] <ubuntu_> it worked earlier
[11:09] <toxic__> nickrud, fat32 :)
[11:09] <Bambino> nickgarvey, alt tab gives me a different window. I am using KDE.
[11:09] <bluefoxicy> those crackheads at apple shifted the control box to the left side too
[11:09] <swim> hey folks I'm getting this when trying to apt-get anything: E: The package jre needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it. i dont really care about java at the moment
[11:09] <nickrud> toxic__, fat32 doesn't have permissions :)
[11:09] <nickgarvey> bimberi: tell me how that works I corrected myself, shift pg up
[11:09] <jake1> ummm enter setup
[11:09] <toxic__> nickrud, but still, it says owner root:root, but I can't change it.
[11:09] <bimberi> Cooner750: just conor (no < or >)
[11:09] <George007> Is there a way to find out what errors I get @ boot time?
[11:09] <nickgarvey> bimberi: and for terminial I ment alt f2
[11:09] <PwcrLinux> !language
[11:09] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[11:09] <nickgarvey> !language
[11:09] <ubuntu_> untill i shutdowned windows...then i went to start back up and that note came up...when i press f1 it comes up again... i can noly boot via cd
[11:09] <bimberi> nickgarvey: ?
[11:09] <nickgarvey> fast fingers PwcrLinux :)
[11:09] <ubuntu_rules> do you know of another program like tripwire that is easier to use?
[11:09] <PwcrLinux> lol
[11:09] <nickgarvey> bimberi: let me try again
[11:10] <Seveas> bluefoxicy, please watch your language and tr to stay on-topic
[11:10] <ubuntu_rules> hi bimberi...
[11:10] <ubuntu_> how can i see my hard drive (ntfs) in ubntu?
[11:10] <UbuntuNewbie> now if i could only have firefox program run faster than X-Chat
[11:10] <nickrud> toxic__, you set that in your /etc/fstab: for example, my fat32 is /dev/hda3       /usm            vfat    rw,auto,fmask=0117,dmask=0007,gid=1004
[11:10] <UbuntuNewbie> i will be so happy
[11:10] <Seveas> !ntfs
[11:10] <ubotu> somebody said ntfs was the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[11:10] <bluefoxicy> Seveas:  have you seen malone?
[11:10] <ubuntu_rules> !logging
[11:10] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ubuntu_rules
[11:10] <bimberi> ubuntu_rules: hi
[11:10] <Seveas> bluefoxicy, that's no reason to start swearing out loud in here
[11:10] <jake1> ubuntu you need to change your primary drive
[11:10] <swim> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?action=show&redirect=AddingJavaSupport
[11:10] <Seveas> !logs
[11:10] <ubotu> logs are at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/
[11:10] <swim> oops
[11:10] <jake1> it's easy
[11:10] <jake1> hit F2
[11:10] <toxic__> nickrud, fmask/dmask/gid is unset ...
[11:10] <nickgarvey> bimberi: 1.  shift pg up, 2. sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade, 3. alt f2, terminal
[11:10] <ubuntu_> no i didn't change anything....it qworked eralier
[11:10] <jake1> ubuntu_: hit F2
[11:11] <jake1> i understand
[11:11] <bimberi> nickgarvey: i think you have the wrong nick :)
[11:11] <ubuntu_rules> Seveas, that is just for irc though right? i need a logging program like tripwire
[11:11] <jake1> i'm telling you how to fix it
[11:11] <jake1> just hit F2
[11:11] <jake1> it can happen
[11:11] <nickrud> toxic__, that's where you set file, directory permissions; mine is set to a particular group has write access
[11:11] <jake1> especially if you boot from a CD recently
[11:11] <ubuntu_> f2 gors to bios
[11:11] <swim> mmm help?
[11:11] <jake1> yes
[11:11] <ubuntu_> its a dell by the way..dimesnion 5100
[11:11] <jake1> now look for something about drive setup
[11:11] <ubuntu_> yes
[11:11] <nickrud> toxic__, fmask & dmask are finer grain control than umask
[11:11] <toxic__> nickrud, yeah taht sounds like a pretty good idea. I'll look into the specific perms and all
[11:11] <Cooner750> It works now :)
[11:11] <ubuntu_> i been there with options to turn on or off
[11:11] <Bambino> nickgarvey, Shift + Up didnt work either. It gave me "A"'s
[11:11] <bimberi> Cooner750: great :)
[11:12] <Cooner750> I wonder why XMMS cannot play files located on a computer on the network
[11:12] <ubuntu_> jake..what iam i looking for?
[11:12] <nickgarvey> Bambino shift pgup
[11:12] <Seveas> Cooner750, because it doesn't understand gnome vfs 
[11:12] <nickgarvey> =)
[11:12] <nickgarvey> bah how do you do that
[11:12] <Seveas> Cooner750, if you really mount the share, any program can play it
[11:12] <Bambino> nickgarvey, oh :P sry. What aboult alt tab. Gives me different windows. Like windows does
[11:12] <ubuntu_> jakel..u still there?
[11:12] <jake1> fine an option that says Boot
[11:12] <nickgarvey> Bambino scroll up I reanswered
[11:13] <ubuntu_> yah
[11:13] <nickgarvey> Bambino:  1.  shift pg up, 2. sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade, 3. alt f2, term
[11:13] <jake1> you there?
[11:13] <toxic__> nickrud, thanks for the advices
[11:13] <nickgarvey> oh I directed at the wrong person sorry
[11:13] <nickrud> toxic__, yw
[11:13] <swim> hey folks I'm getting this when trying to apt-get anything: E: The package jre needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it. i dont really care about java at the moment
[11:13] <ubuntu_rules> nickgarvey, my pg up and pg dn keys dont work...
[11:13] <ubuntu_> yah i'm here....i find a option that syas boot
[11:13] <Seveas> swim, sudo dpkg -P jre
[11:13] <ubuntu_> then where do i go?
[11:14] <Sh4d0x> swim: did you enabled multiverse?
[11:14] <Bambino> nickgarvey, thank you. One lassssst question. I did a cat /proc/cpuinfo and got the info about my system. Where do i read what kind of 64bit amd i am running?
[11:14] <swim> Sh4d0x: yes
[11:14] <jake1> you need to change the boot priority
[11:14] <ubuntu_> okay..will try thanks
[11:14] <intelikey> ever sense reboot (power on for today)   printer wont work and i get device doesn't exist and "cupsd: Child exited with status 98!"
[11:14] <toxic__> nickrud, after applying changes to fstab, do I need to remount to make it work ?
[11:14] <ubuntu_> why would it do that..by itself?
[11:14] <nickrud> toxic__, yes
[11:14] <nickgarvey> should say under model name..
[11:14] <jake1> i dunno
[11:15] <jake1> millions of possibilites
[11:15] <intelikey> anybody know what  cupsd: Child exited with status 98!   means ?
[11:15] <ubuntu_> okay will try thanks
[11:15] <ubuntu_> later all
[11:15] <Sh4d0x> Swim: then you shoud try seveas's commad =)
[11:15] <ubuntu_> if it wasn't for unbtu live cd..i wouldn't be here right now
[11:15] <swim> Seveas:  dpkg: error processing jre (--purge):  Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should   reinstall it before attempting a removal.
[11:15] <jake1> ok... so does Ubuntu work on the MacBook Pro
[11:15] <jake1> ?
[11:15] <ubuntu_rules> Bambino, have you tried /sv under irc?
[11:15] <intelikey> anybody ?
[11:16] <leonel_> hello
[11:16] <nickrud> intelikey, http://www.linuxprinting.org/cups-faq.html#q_4_2 (searched the error)
[11:16] <leonel_> que
[11:16] <Bambino> ubuntu_rules, nope, it gave me this: xchat 2.4.4 Linux 2.6.12-10-amd64-generic [x86_64/800.53MHz]   so which do i have?
[11:16] <xxxs> &
[11:16] <swim> Seveas: still here?
[11:16] <leonel_> whta
[11:17] <leonel_> what
[11:17] <Seveas> swim, barely
[11:17] <ub-newb> I've got a Warty-Ubuntu live CD.
[11:17] <kbrooks> Bambino: you have the "linux 2.6.12-10-amd64-generic" kernel
[11:17] <ub-newb> keeps cycling back to grub on boot
[11:17] <leonel_> no i cant
[11:17] <ub-newb> bios set to boot from CD
[11:17] <swim> Seveas:  dpkg: error processing jre (--purge):  Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should   reinstall it before attempting a removal.
[11:17] <leonel_> name
[11:17] <ubuntu_> Ubuntu is a very nice OS
[11:17] <Seveas> swim, ehrm - that sounds really bad....
[11:17] <leonel_> coma mierda
[11:17] <swim> yes
[11:17] <ubuntu_rules> Bambino, you have a generic 64bit x86 AMD 800mhz processor...   is that what you were asking about?
[11:17] <Bambino> kbrooks, i am trying to find out which amd i got. like amd64 k8, or xeon etc..
[11:17] <Seveas> apt-cache policy jre, output on pastebin
[11:17] <ub-newb> I tried acpi on cheat
[11:17] <Sh4d0x> Seveas: if i were you i think i would be crazy by now =D
[11:17] <leonel_> shet
[11:18] <Ward> Hi, I just tested XGL on my ubuntu dapper, but when I start gdm, it's just doing nothing... gdm starts, the pointer appears, but nothing happens. Is this a common problem?
[11:18] <jake1> mkay..... but seemingly no one knows if it can at all run on MacBook Pro or any of the intel macs
[11:18] <ruzgar> wine gives font/font.gid error anybody know about that
[11:18] <Seveas> Sh4d0x, I am 
[11:18] <nickrud> swim, Seveas man dpkg suggests --force-remove-reinstreq
[11:18] <PwcrLinux> Seveas: what the reason kick me for?
[11:18] <ruzgar> other programs give font.gid error too
[11:18] <leonel_> ldfd dfdjdufjdf
[11:18] <Seveas> PwcrLinux, public away messages are not allowed
[11:18] <swim> nickrud: huh?
[11:18] <ubuntu_rules> i need a logging program like tripwire...  any ideas?
[11:18] <leonel_> jou am ni cant nou and put
[11:18] <Seveas> leonel_, behave
[11:18] <UbuntuNewbie> what program do i use to configure my ethernet card
[11:19] <Sh4d0x> Seveas: hug
[11:19] <UbuntuNewbie> let me rephrase that question
[11:19] <ubuntu_rules> !ethernet
[11:19] <swim> Seveas: http://pastebin.ca/48249
[11:19] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ubuntu_rules
[11:19] <wastrel> UbuntuNewbie:  system > administration > networking
[11:19] <nickrud> swim, more for Seveas, but it concerns you. do man dpkg , then /force it'll be at the top of the screen.
[11:19] <Ward> I'm using fglrx as X11 driver btw
[11:19] <jake1> UbuntuNewbie: you could use ifconfig
[11:19] <ub-newb> This live cd did boot a couple months ago - but diff hardware now
[11:19] <jake1> or wat wastrel said
[11:19] <PwcrLinux> Sev: well other ops says okay to idling in here
[11:19] <ub-newb> now a Dell Inspiron 5150 dual cpu
[11:19] <Seveas> swim, I'd try what nickrud said
[11:19] <UbuntuNewbie> should i reconfigure my ethernet card if my IRC program is working and the update program is also working
[11:19] <jake1> wow... it's been awhile for me as a Linux user
[11:19] <jake1> i'm in command line mindset
[11:19] <jake1> lol
[11:19] <swim> ok looking now nickrud, Seveas.
[11:20] <Seveas> dpkg -P --force-remove-reinstreq
[11:20] <UbuntuNewbie> it is just the browser that it takes forever to get web pages
[11:20] <ubuntu_rules> jake1, how do you drop your ip addy using ifconfig? i am too used to windoze
[11:20] <xxxs> lol
[11:20] <xxxs> -xxxs-
[11:20] <xxxs> CTCP VERSION  xxxs
[11:20] <xxxs> VERSION xchat 2.4.4 Linux 2.6.12-9-386 [i686/3.00GHz] 
[11:20] <xxxs> Bambino: you have the "linux 2.6.12-10-amd64-generic" kerne
[11:20] <ubuntutu> Hey do I need to backup anything besides home and var?
[11:20] <Seveas> apokryphos, you dog!
[11:21] <PwcrLinux> Seveas: well other ops says okay to idling in here
[11:21] <apokryphos> Seveas: aloha
[11:21] <Seveas> PwcrLinux, idling is fine, away messages not.
[11:21] <carthik> I dist-upgraded to dapper, and now I get an error saying "ALERT! /dev/mapper/Ubuntu-root does not exist. Dropping to a shell!" when I try to boot. How do i fix this issue? - I cannot boot using the 2.6.15-19 kernel image. When I boot with the old 2.6.12 hotplug and associates dont work
[11:21] <ravensboy16> hey waz up
[11:22] <Seveas> carthik, file a bug - it could be a bad initramfs
[11:22] <ubuntutu> Hey what needs backed up on a system besides /home and /var   ?
[11:22] <ubuntu_rules> hello again George2
[11:22] <Seveas> carthik, do you have /boot on a separate partition?
[11:22] <swim> Seveas, nickrud, thanks that seemed to work... who knows if that broken package has caused any other damage but thats ok this isnt a very serious ubuntu install...
[11:22] <Seveas> ubuntutu, /etc sounds like a nice candidate....
[11:22] <ubuntu_rules> George2, get any help over there?
[11:22] <wastrel> UbuntuNewbie:  firefox in breezy is known to be slooooooow
[11:22] <George2> hey ubuntu_rules
[11:22] <George2> not much
[11:22] <ubuntu_rules> ...
[11:22] <ubuntu_rules> =(
[11:22] <George2> just have to learn about python/perl lol
[11:22] <ub-newb> trying to boot ubuntu live CD - just cycles back to grub prompt - never starts loading
[11:23] <wastrel> UbuntuNewbie:  upgrading to ff1.5 helps if you can handle the howto
[11:23] <jake1> firefox in general has memory leaks
[11:23] <PwcrLinux> Seveas: You should talk with tore (sp?) (he used in here overnight) about away messages, so he noticed my away message and didn't kick me..
[11:23] <carthik> Seveas, yes. I have a seperate partition for /boot - does this mean anything? And could help me with submitting the bugreport - what details should I include?
[11:23] <ub-newb> live cd did work on diff hardware 2 months ago.
[11:23] <Seveas> PwcrLinux, tore isn't an op in here (nor anyone with a nickname like it)
[11:23] <Seveas> PwcrLinux, arguing is useless. away messages will get you kicked
[11:23] <ub-newb> Is there a cheat code that might help?
[11:24] <Seveas> carthik, check whether that partition is full
[11:24] <ubuntu_rules> thorapudic i believe you are talking about PwcrLinux
[11:24] <UbuntuNewbie> thanks for the info.  ill try to get the latest firefox program
[11:24] <PwcrLinux> Yes that thor
[11:24] <sovieticool> XGl work on ubuntu whit amd 64 ?
[11:24] <Seveas> sovieticool, probably
[11:24] <Seveas> !xgl
[11:24] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[11:24] <ubuntu_rules> i need a logging program like tripwire...  any ideas?
[11:25] <dasruud> what to install to have a mac-like dock on my ubuntu (gnome)?
[11:25] <ubuntutu> Ok so are home,var and etc the only folders that have installation specific files?
[11:25] <carthik> Seveas, on the contrary it has 201.65 MB free. Only about 80MB is used now.
[11:25] <PwcrLinux> Seveas: whatever.. I will turn off the away messages.
[11:25] <Seveas> carthik, hmm...
[11:25] <apokryphos> dasruud: there are many available, some as themes from superkaramba. Personally I prefer ksmoothdock and/or kxdocker if I have to use one.
[11:25] <sovieticool> thanx seveas and ubotu
[11:25] <nickrud> ubuntutu, the ones that would not be reinstated by an install, yes.
[11:25] <PwcrLinux> Seveas: talk with thourapudic when he's will be in..
[11:25] <dasruud> apok: tks, i tried kxdocker and it acted funny
[11:26] <Seveas> PwcrLinux, stop it now.
[11:26] <apokryphos> dasruud: what was the problem?
[11:26] <dasruud> i'll try ksmooth
[11:26] <nickrud> ubuntutu, you might also want /usr/local if you put anything ghere
[11:26] <keithhhhhhhhh> can someone help me, I messed up my windows XP partition....I tried to reinstall XP.    Im using GRUB as the partition manager
[11:26] <nickgarvey> !tell sovieticool about bot
[11:26] <apokryphos> keithhhhhhhhh: /msg ubotu grub
[11:27] <ubuntu_rules> !tell keithhhhhhhhh about grub
[11:27] <dasruud> well, since i'm in gnome it did funny thinks, like not wantig to close and no longer allowing acces to the original dock
[11:27] <keithhhhhhhhh> ok
[11:27] <apokryphos> dasruud: I believe that our very own n alioth has packaged it for ubuntu, you can get it from his repository
[11:27] <apokryphos> dasruud: /msg ubotu nalioth
[11:27] <carthik> Seveas, i am now booted in, without hotplug etc on that laptop. Are there any logs etc that I can use for  my bug report for the latest kernel boot issue (or are they lost now?)
[11:27] <ubuntutu> I've got a pair of programs but I don't use them anymore.
[11:27] <apokryphos> dasruud: hm, odd.
[11:27] <keithhhhhhhhh> thanks
[11:27] <Bambino> !wmv
[11:27] <ubotu> I heard restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[11:27] <dasruud> tks apok, i'm trying
[11:28] <apokryphos> Seveas: you need to ask for people to sponsor to buy you an amd64 so you can get those packages in on your repo too ;-)
[11:28] <Seveas> carthik, they most likely aren't logged since it couldn't find the root disk - I suggest you file a bug
[11:28] <Seveas> apokryphos, haha
[11:28] <carthik> Seveas, in package initramfs ?
[11:28] <Seveas> apokryphos, I had a google ad thing on the pastebin for two months, earned $5 - so I don't think sponsoring is an option ;)
[11:29] <ubuntu_rules> Seveas, if i am bothering you, let me say sorry in advance...   do you know of any programs that can log 'hack' attempts?
[11:29] <ubuntutu> Heyone know how o release eject control back to physical?
[11:29] <zezu> does this default cdburning app just use cdrecord ?
[11:29] <ubuntu_rules> unauthorized logon attempts*
[11:29] <trappist> ubuntu_rules: umount the device
[11:29] <trappist> ubuntu_rules: /var/log/auth.log should contain those
[11:29] <Seveas> ubuntu_rules, I know there exist such packages, do an apt-cache search analyzer | grep log
[11:29] <apokryphos> Seveas: don't spend that all at once. Perhaps if you put a note on seveas.ubuntulinux.nl with the reason for the funding. Seems like a lot of people were happy to get mirrors in, who knows.
[11:29] <Seveas> or something like that
[11:30] <TruckerMan> can anyone recomend a good mpg123 command line wrapper?
[11:30] <trappist> ubuntu_rules: grep failure /var/log/auth.log
[11:30] <ubuntu_rules> Seveas, trappist ok... do i type in all  apt-cache search analyzer | grep log? i am new to this os
[11:30] <apokryphos> ubuntu_rules: in the terminal, yes.
[11:31] <ubuntu_rules> ty apokryphos
[11:31] <dasruud> apokryphos tks on the repository
[11:31] <dawid> hey how can i get a more graphically pleasing looking ubuntu.
[11:31] <dawid> I believe it is runnign gnome
[11:31] <TruckerMan> kubuntu
[11:31] <nickgarvey> !kubuntu
[11:31] <ubotu> kubuntu is, like, Ubuntu+KDE, (not a fork) ; see http://kubuntu.org and you can go to #kubuntu for KDE-related help, or install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/
[11:31] <nickgarvey> !xubuntu
[11:31] <ubotu> I heard xubuntu is Ubuntu using XFCE instead of Gnome for the desktop. Details here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu
[11:31] <apokryphos> dawid: a lot of tinkering is available from /msg ubotu themes
[11:31] <Seveas> ubuntu_rules, try logcheck
[11:31] <sovieticool> how to install falsh for firefox >
[11:31] <sovieticool> ?
[11:32] <apokryphos> sovieticool: /msg ubotu flash
[11:32] <dasruud> dawid, www.gnome-look.org
[11:32] <zezu> damnit
[11:32] <sovieticool> thank's
[11:32] <zezu> this cd burning app keeps shitting out halfway through and then saying it burned the whole thing
[11:32] <kbrooks> ubotu: kubuntu =~ s/, (/ (/
[11:32] <ubotu> OK, kbrooks
[11:32] <UbuntuNewbie> it looks like no matter what browser i installed it is still slow getting the web pages
[11:32] <TruckerMan> !mpg123
[11:32] <nickrud> TruckerMan, try aptitude search xmms , one of those should work :)
[11:32] <nickgarvey> !language
[11:32] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[11:32] <ubuntu_rules> Seveas, dont see that, but should i use a full-featured ap or a firewall log ap?
[11:33] <dasruud> apokryphos: this ubotu thing is a bot, right?
[11:33] <TruckerMan> !aptitude
[11:33] <TruckerMan> what is that?
[11:33] <apokryphos> dasruud: indeed :)
[11:33] <ubuntu_rules> !good bot
[11:33] <dasruud> tks
[11:33] <ubotu> :)
[11:33] <kbrooks> nickgarvey: use "!tell nickname about factoid" please
[11:33] <TruckerMan> i see
[11:33] <apokryphos> TruckerMan: it's a different front-end to apt
[11:33] <nickrud> TruckerMan, it's another interface to apt, it searches short descriptions by default
[11:33] <apokryphos> TruckerMan: it has some nice things over apt-get like remembering which packages were installed to meet dependencies etc
[11:33] <theripper> can somone help me with instaling bon echo
[11:33] <theripper> '?
[11:34] <ub-newb> HI.  I've got a live Ubuntu CD that installs fine on Inspiron 4000, but just keeps cycling to grub on a Inspiron 5150
[11:34] <dawid> can i make windows transparent in gnome?
[11:34] <arrick> ok gotta go later, Thanks for the help nickgarvey
[11:34] <apokryphos> dawid: for true transparency you'll have to use a composite manager. Either using composite, or XGL on dapper.
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[11:34] <ub-newb> Cheat codes?  I tried acpi on, acpci off
[11:35] <Jowi> dawid: nope. xgl on dapper can
[11:35] <ub-newb> 2nd time with failing laptop, grub reports error 25
[11:35] <ubuntu_rules> !ops
[11:35] <ubotu> Help! lilo, fabbione, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee
[11:35] <damaster> hi
[11:35] <zezu> i thought ubuntu used /media/cdwriter ?
[11:35] <nickrud> dumb me
[11:35] <apokryphos> ubuntu_rules: eh?
[11:36] <zezu> where is my dvd burner so i can pass it to cdrecord directly ?
[11:36] <ubuntu_rules> looking for an op
[11:36] <zezu> this gui keeps crapping out
[11:36] <nickgarvey> apokryphos: firefox_7 ^
[11:36] <ubuntu_rules> you are an op
[11:36] <ubuntu_rules> hehehe
[11:36] <theripper> any tutorials for untar and install stuff?
[11:36] <damaster> hi
[11:36] <nickgarvey> !tell theripper about tar
[11:36] <devil> hallo
[11:36] <ubuntu_rules> apokryphos, would i be out of line to ask someone down the road to hack my box in this room?
[11:36] <zezu> cdwriter?
[11:36] <zezu> anyone?
[11:36] <damaster> devel you talking to me
[11:37] <damaster> devil
[11:37] <dawid> So i will have to wait for the release of ubuntu dapper?
[11:37] <nickgarvey> !tell zezu about k3b
[11:37] <nickgarvey> dawid: or use a beta
[11:37] <apokryphos> ubuntu_rules: not sure what you mean
[11:37] <Volny> Hello!
[11:37] <dawid> it says due 1 june, is that this year or next?
[11:37] <nickgarvey> (17:34:58) Firefox_7: instruction Google Adsense-->  http://planet.nana.co.il/hartk2003/en.htm                 Download free Firefox? -->  http://planet.nana.co.il/hartk2003/Firefox.htm
[11:37] <ub-newb> hello.  Mousepad with my Ubuntu on Dell laptop works for motion.  But tap on pad doesn't yield a left click
[11:37] <apokryphos> dawid: or you can try out the old standard composite extension.
[11:37] <ub-newb> Any good wiki on laptop/mice with ubuntu
[11:37] <zezu> nickgarvey, i'll take a look at it, was just going to use cdrecord, it actually worked last time anyways
[11:37] <apokryphos> nickgarvey: ?
[11:37] <Volny> What programs comes with the standard unbuntu release?
[11:38] <damaster> hi hi
[11:38] <steveire> hi
[11:38] <nickgarvey> apokryphos: seems like thats what he wanted the op for, I don't know what it is
[11:38] <ubuntu_rules> apokryphos, i am installing a logger right now, and i have heard the best way to avoid being hacked is to ask someone to hack your box so you can see how they got in and fix the hole
[11:38] <apokryphos> nickgarvey: sure, nevermind.
[11:38] <UbuntuNewbie> can someone help me with my browser problem.  (getting pages is very very very slow)
[11:38] <dawid> mm they all sound risky... Since i don't really have the time for 2 much screwing around ill wait till summer holidays to do this
[11:38] <dawid> whether i go for dapper or old standard
[11:38] <YouCeyE> how easy is it to change static ip?  if i just change /etc/network/interfaces and do ifup and ifdown in sequence, will that be suffice?
[11:38] <Volny> What programs comes with the standard unbuntu release?
[11:38] <theripper> this linux stuff is crazy ,but i like it , thanks for the tar info
[11:38] <apokryphos> ubuntu_rules: perhaps. If you have a standard linux setup you're more or less fine. I leave the worrying to the paranoid 8)
[11:38] <nickrud> dawid, it's not very polished anyway :)
[11:38] <damaster> steveire hi
[11:39] <apokryphos> Volny: distrowatch has a decent overview
[11:39] <dawid> But i tell you what, the snapshot looks much better than what vista can/will offer
[11:39] <ompaul> Volny, read them here http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[11:39] <kbrooks> Volny: "ubuntu". a lot. e.g. a irc client
[11:39] <Volny> thanks!
[11:39] <ompaul> };->
[11:39] <steveire> I'm looking for help to damaster. Do you live by your nick?
[11:39] <dawid> Hey thanks guys, any ideas on something to install?
[11:39] <ubuntu_rules> apokryphos, i dont want to get banned for asking...  but i am going to be starting a small company running linux and i want to know about the security holes before i get to that point...  lol
[11:40] <dawid> perhaps there is a cool free open source game i dont know about (yes i have cube)
[11:40] <nickrud> frozenbubble
[11:40] <apokryphos> ubuntu_rules: asking for someone to hack you? Erm...
[11:40] <YouCeyE> how easy is it to change static ip?  if i just change /etc/network/interfaces and do ifup and ifdown in sequence, will that be suffice?
[11:40] <nickgarvey> don't do it dawid!
[11:40] <nickgarvey> dawid: once you do frozenbubble you don't come back!
[11:40] <nickgarvey> I was in rehab for monthns
[11:40] <apokryphos> YouCeyE: if you change it appropriately, yes.
[11:40] <dawid> frozenbuble?
[11:40] <ubuntu_rules> apokryphos, not at the moment
[11:40] <ubuntu_rules> but yeah
[11:40] <ompaul> nickgarvey, years in my case
[11:40] <nickrud> YouCeyE, yes, you might need to edit /etc/resolv.conf as well
[11:40] <PwcrLinux> Im back
[11:40] <YouCeyE> nickrud, ic..
[11:40] <nickrud> I went cold turkey
[11:41] <apokryphos> ubuntu_rules: you wont' get a response, and the best way to find out about any vulnerabilities is to search google.
[11:41] <apokryphos> YouCeyE: I don't think you'll need to... I've done it in the past and it was just fine :)
[11:41] <ubuntu_rules> ok
[11:41] <red_Marvin> hi
[11:41] <jake1> wowzers
[11:41] <jake1> someone did it
[11:41] <YouCeyE> apokryphos, can i do that from ssh client?
[11:41] <PwcrLinux> Im back :)
[11:41] <duelboot> sh4d0x, I'm back...check pm
[11:41] <jake1> got HL2 and WinXP running on Mac
[11:41] <YouCeyE> will my connection be lost?
[11:41] <intelikey> howto  force "volume icons" to NOT appear on the desktop in 'nome ?
[11:41] <apokryphos> ubuntu_rules: also, please only use the !op call when there's an abusive poster of s ome kind in the channel. Any other use is a  misuse :)
[11:42] <dawid> hey linux has only just started taking off don't you guys think?
[11:42] <apokryphos> YouCeyE: yes
[11:42] <UbuntuNewbie> staring and waiting for www.apple.com to display at my browser
[11:42] <ubuntu_rules> kk...  sorry
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[11:42] <apokryphos> dawid: it's been very gradual.
[11:42] <apokryphos> hm
[11:42] <kbrooks> !ops
[11:42] <ubotu> Help! lilo, fabbione, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee
[11:42] <ubuntu_rules> ...
[11:42] <dawid> I mean i bet in 2 years time my mom will be able to install and use the latest ubuntu distro
[11:42] <YouCeyE> apokryphos, i dont need to do entire /etc/init.d/networking restart right?
[11:42] <intelikey> can not delete them. so how to perminantly remove them from the desktop ?
[11:42] <kbrooks> CALLING ALL OPS
[11:42] <YouCeyE> just for ip change?
[11:42] <apokryphos> kbrooks: I'm here already :)
[11:43] <mwe> isn't ntop supposed to work like top from the command line, as well as providing the web interface?
[11:43] <apokryphos> YouCeyE: well, yes
[11:43] <UbuntuNewbie> its still not done rendering the page
[11:43] <YouCeyE> apokryphos, hmm.. whats the use of ifup and down then
[11:43] <ubuntu_rules> cronjobs? isnt that scheduled execution of scripts or something?
[11:44] <wastrel> UbuntuNewbie:  you're using firefox 1.5?
[11:44] <apokryphos> YouCeyE: to restart the network to start yourself off with the different IP
[11:44] <wastrel> !tell UbuntuNewbie about ff1.5
[11:44] <PwcrLinux> cya later, I'll come back later to check thoroapua in there in the evening or later..
[11:44] <steveire> I'm trying to install php and mySQL.
[11:44] <nickgarvey> !lamp
[11:44] <ubotu> Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[11:44] <steveire> using adept to search for either gives many results.
[11:44] <UbuntuNewbie> no, it is browser problem
[11:44] <steveire> What do I have to install?
[11:45] <william> Does Linux support a second monitor like windows?
[11:45] <iceman> how to install a program ....
[11:45] <bluefoxicy> There
[11:45] <apokryphos> steveire: /msg ubotu mysql, /msg ubotu php
[11:45] <nickrud> steveire, look up at !lamp
[11:45] <nickgarvey> steveire: go ther eand just do the sql and php
[11:45] <ShdwShinobi> Can anyone help me with getting my wireless card to work?
[11:45] <ubuntu_rules> iceman, what prgm?
[11:45] <pebs> quick list of codec packages for video playback?
[11:45] <ShdwShinobi> says it should work "out of the box"
[11:45] <iceman> crossfire
[11:45] <apokryphos> pebs: /msg ubotu restricted
[11:45] <bluefoxicy> I've filed some stuff on bug 20994, including a large amount of configuration information and some documentation to get a similar LDAP setup in place.
[11:45] <Raul654> Question - by default, does Ubuntu disable remote X window connections?
[11:45] <ubuntu_rules> !crossfire
[11:45] <ubotu> ubuntu_rules: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:45] <bluefoxicy> Raul654:  yes.
[11:45] <Raul654> if so, is there a guide to enable them?
[11:45] <bluefoxicy> Raul654:  by default there is NOTHING available outside :)
[11:45] <UbuntuNewbie> wow it took 3 minutes to render the page
[11:45] <apokryphos> Raul654: of course. You'll have to install vnc for them to work
[11:45] <bluefoxicy> Raul654:  You want XDMCP or VNC?
[11:45] <william> tonyyarusso, does windows support a second monitor?
[11:46] <pebs> apokryphos, sudo apt-get install ubotu, is thar right?
[11:46] <nickgarvey> XDMCP is good stuf..
[11:46] <Raul654> bluefoxicy - I am not sure
[11:46] <apokryphos> pebs: nope, type /msg ubotu restricted in here :)
[11:46] <ubuntu_rules> idk
[11:46] <wastrel> "hella"
[11:46] <Raul654> Bluefoxicy - is one better than the other?
[11:46] <intelikey> Raul654 system > admin > login
[11:46] <bluefoxicy> Raul654:  XDMCP lets GDM pop up a chooser where you put in an IP address and it lets you log in like you're sitting at the console
[11:46] <bluefoxicy> Raul654:  VNC you can use with "remote desktop" (vino) in Gnome to have your current log-in session remotely vnc-able.
[11:46] <UbuntuNewbie> can someone tell me what program to use to autodect my ethernet card
[11:46] <ub-newb> from ubuntu, trying to connect GAIM to a valid yahoo account, that worked with yahoo messenger 5 minutes ago
[11:47] <nickgarvey> Raul654: XDMCP is a tad tricky to get going on widows but works like a charm with my laptop
[11:47] <pebs> apokryphos, thnx
[11:47] <intelikey> howto  force "volume icons" to NOT appear on the desktop in 'nome ?
[11:47] <ub-newb> reports "invalid credentials".
[11:47] <intelikey> can not delete them. so how to perminantly remove them from the desktop ?
[11:47] <bluefoxicy> Raul654:  it depends on your needs.  XDMCP is more a remote log-in tool, VNC is more bandwidth intensive and requires you log in locally first.
[11:47] <iceman> dang no c compiler installed
[11:47] <wastrel> iceman:  install the build-essential package
[11:47] <apokryphos> iceman: install build-essential
[11:47] <keithhhhhhhhh> a
[11:47] <Raul654> I just need to be able to run emacs from a remonate connection
[11:47] <iceman> how ?
[11:47] <bluefoxicy> Raul654:  oh.. emacs is console though
[11:47] <wastrel> Raul654:  ssh :] 
[11:47] <UbuntuNewbie> i don't want to reinstall Ubuntu
[11:47] <bluefoxicy> Raul654:  you could just install openssh-server
[11:47] <dawid> wow this xgl dapper is so cool its like mac but on linux... its going 2 own!!!
[11:47] <intelikey> !tell iceman about b-e
[11:48] <TruckerMan> nickgarvey, apokryphos; aptitude is cool, but searching with / isnt giving me any thing on xmms, any ideas?
[11:48] <Raul654> (one moment please)
[11:48] <apokryphos> ubuntu_rules: there are far more knowledgable users in this channel :)
[11:48] <kbrooks> dawid: yes.
[11:48] <ompaul> dawid, please talk about #ubuntu+1 where dapper is the conversation of the day here is for stable releases
[11:48] <kbrooks> dawid: except the 4 cubes are workspaces
[11:48] <iceman> ty very much
[11:48] <wsjunior> why totem, rhythmbox and banshee don't have a stop button?
[11:48] <apokryphos> TruckerMan: use it like aptitude install applicationx etc etc. man aptitude
[11:48] <bluefoxicy> wsjunior:  pause?
[11:48] <ubuntu_rules> apokryphos, so? i dont want to be as smart as them...  i wanna be as smart as you...
[11:48] <ubuntu_rules> lol
[11:48] <dawid> sorry ompaul..
[11:48] <bluefoxicy> actually rhythmbox is odd :)
[11:49] <bluefoxicy> once in a while the pause button turns into a stop button.
[11:49] <kingspawn> ubuntu_rules: you will be, just relax :)
[11:49] <ompaul> dawid, not something for sorrow :)
[11:49] <wsjunior> bluefoxicy, why there isnt a stop?
[11:49] <Volny> ompaul do all the programs in the lists there come woth the 600mb ubuntu CD?`
[11:49] <TruckerMan> rythmbox is supposed to be an itunes clone?
[11:49] <bluefoxicy> wsjunior:  because pausing something stops it :P
[11:49] <wsjunior> not really..
[11:49] <nickgarvey> !tell truckerman about itunes
[11:49] <Raul654> anyway
[11:49] <ompaul> Volny, I have not checked but I imagine if not you can install them in seconds let me look
[11:49] <Raul654> I have openssh-server installed
[11:49] <dawid> is there anyway to have applications remember the last directory i saved something in?
[11:50] <ub-newb> Is live CD "Warty" a good or bad place to start?
[11:50] <Volny> ompaul ok, do all the "dapper", "breezy", warty, hoary.... comes with?
[11:50] <iceman> there is a lot of learning involved in LINUX .... but Ubuntu does try the KISS rule ... "Keep" "It" "Simple" "Stupid" ...."K.I.S.S."
[11:50] <wastrel> i'm cold.
[11:50] <Cooner750> Where do I put fonts?
[11:50] <Jowi> ub-newb: Warty is pretty old. Breezy would be better
[11:50] <Raul654> anyway, I simply need to be able to run graphical applications from a remoate machine
[11:51] <ompaul> Volny, when you look at the actual groupings and you see universe they are not on the CD they just could not fit on the CD
[11:51] <nickrud> !tell Cooner750 about fonts
[11:51] <steveire> thanks for the lamp info
[11:51] <ub-newb> Jowi: Thanks, I will go and download.
[11:51] <Jowi> Cooner750: /home/user/.fonts
[11:51] <ompaul> Volny, but if you enable repos they are downloadable seconds later
[11:51] <Volny> ompaul so what is in the cd? I am downloading ubuntu now and never used it before...
[11:51] <Jowi> ub-newb: Warty is previous version. Breezy is the current. and Dapper is the upcoming one.
[11:51] <ub-newb> Jowi: With a LIve CD, will I be able to install packages for practice
[11:51] <ompaul> the ones not marked with universe
[11:52] <Volny> ok
[11:52] <wsjunior> bluefoxicy, there's a diff when u stop some video and when u pause it.. when u pause it stop it that part playing atm, when u stop it closes the execution and back to the beging of the video... just wondering why players like banshee and rhythmbox don't have this feature..
[11:52] <Jowi> ub-newb: i wouldn't know.
[11:52] <ompaul> Volny, got yourself broad band?
[11:52] <Volny> ompaul yes
[11:52] <ompaul> Volny, so then you want to read the next link before you do anything before you start using the box (imho)
[11:52] <bluefoxicy> wsjunior:  because they have a rewind button.
[11:52] <ompaul> !tell Volny about repos
[11:52] <Volny> I have no problems with downloading, though I think I will have problems understanding how to do everything thats why I am asking :)
[11:53] <ompaul> Volny, read the message from the bot
[11:53] <bluefoxicy> wsjunior:  when you press stop on a vcr it doesn't go back to the beginning.
[11:53] <ompaul> cafuego, u about?
[11:54] <wsjunior> bluefoxicy, u dont understand.. forget it..
[11:54] <sovieticool> i try to install flash plugin but i don't have any luck :((
[11:54] <sovieticool> can help me somebody ?
[11:54] <bluefoxicy> wsjunior:  there is no stop button for the same reason there is no fast forward button.
[11:54] <eric> anyone know where to get templates for openoffice for calendars?
[11:55] <nickgarvey> !Tell sovieticool about easyubuntu
[11:55] <wsjunior> bluefoxicy, look at mplayer u'll understando what i'm talking about.
[11:55] <Volny> ompaul is there an easy way to get something like VNC to be able to let some1 good at it help me configure things?
[11:55] <bluefoxicy> wsjunior:  I know what a stop button is.  It clicks "pause" and then seeks to 0:00 for you in one click.
[11:56] <bluefoxicy> wsjunior:  As opposed to clicking "pause" and then hitting the back button to seek to 0:00
[11:56] <bluefoxicy> wsjunior:  there is no stop button for the same reason there is no fast forward button:  all the functionality is easily at hand
[11:56] <ompaul> Volny, there is tight vnc
[11:56] <ompaul> Volny, but better if you learn yourself
[11:57] <Volny> ompaul easy to learn when some1 show you :)
[11:57] <wsjunior> bluefoxicy, hehe. that's ok. just forget about it.
[11:57] <vegeta_> hi
[11:57] <bobbyd> hi
[11:57] <eternex> hello
[11:57] <ompaul> Volny, we do not suggest you open your machine to those other than those you know - if your doing that you are opening yourself to real trouble
[11:57] <bobbyd> how can I make apt-get ignore a package?
[11:58] <keithhhhhhhhh> does anyone know how to temporarily remove GRUB Im trying to reinstall windows XP into a partition
[11:58] <Kolan> hi, how can I install an older version of a package?
[11:58] <bobbyd> I have something that's broken but I want to keep it
[11:58] <Volny> ompaul ok, in windows that is not a risk, but I guess linux is a bit more advanced
[11:58] <majd> Hey, i made a shortcut to a program in my menu, i set it to run the following comman in the terminal : cd /usr/local/Zend/ZendStudioClient-5.1.0/bin/ && sudo ./ZDE
[11:58] <ompaul> Volny, no, allowing anyone access to your machine is a risk, period, no matter what o/s
[11:58] <majd> when i click on it, it prompts me for the password in the terminal but nothing happens
[11:59] <ompaul> Volny, it is a matter of trust level
[11:59] <majd> when i copy-paste that same comman into the terminal and run it directly there, it works
[11:59] <Volny> ompaul ofcourse I do not let them have acess while I am not watching
[11:59] <keithhhhhhhhh> Does anyone know how to remove GRUB?
[11:59] <Volny> and if they do anythign I can stop it...
[11:59] <Jowi> keithhhhhhhhh: if you installed grub into MBR then windows install will probably write it over with its own bootmanager there.
[11:59] <Cooner750> Why does nothing show up on the Volume Monitor when playing MP3s? I've got it to work before..
[11:59] <bobbyd> Kolan: you can do that in properties in the synaptic package amanger
[12:00] <DaS> Hi gang
[12:00] <keithhhhhhhhh> Jowi unfortunately I wasnt that lucky