=== Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kyral [n=kyral@HyperDream.hamlin.clarkson.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Red_Herring [n=dsl@c-67-162-70-40.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:28] Red_Herring: a .deb really doesn't help [12:28] Red_Herring: we need a source package [12:28] ugh, so i need to package it myself? [12:28] Red_Herring: or wait for somebody to do it [12:29] cuz currently im running DSL on a laptop with a dead hard drive w/ no other computer around [12:29] so my development opportunities are "limited" [12:29] Red_Herring: you can add it to the list of packages wanted at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/Candidates === Red_Herring looks into it [12:30] but believe me, this is a very known problem, but it is quite late in the Dapper development cycle [12:31] ugh, i guess, but its a shame... [12:31] yes it is [12:31] im willing to help, but if you dont htink its worth it, w/e [12:31] well, you can start know and if it gets in for Dapper fine, if not it could go in Dapper+1 [12:32] i cant start now, i lack the resources [12:34] argh. why do we have mismatched PIDA and Gazpatcho in Dapper... :( [12:36] I haven't been paying full attention lately... are we still opening UVF exception requests to upgrade the old unstable crap in Dapper Universe? === Kyral [n=kyral@HyperDream.hamlin.clarkson.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:39] Red_Herring: well, when you have a chance you can work on it, but I would think that somebody would package it for Dapper+1 [12:39] ugh, whats it gonna be called? [12:39] any name yet? [12:40] Red_Herring: but getting it on the install cd is quite a bit more difficult [12:40] Red_Herring: not that I know of [12:40] true true true [12:40] can it still be added to the universe? [12:40] yes [12:40] later [12:40] sweet [12:40] if it has a good license (it is GPL, right?) [12:41] and it gets packaged (a real source package) [12:41] then it can be reviewed for inclusion in Universe [12:41] ok [12:42] ill get right on it... can i do this from a livecd of kubuntu flight 6? [12:42] there isn't an inherent reason for it to not be included, it just takes somebody to take the time to do it [12:42] hi [12:42] hmm, I wouldn't recommend using a livcd for development work [12:43] LaserJock: then do you have a spare laptop hard drive? :-P [12:43] Red_Herring: unfortunately not [12:43] damn [12:43] anyone? [12:43] also, once i package it, do i hafta maintain it? [12:44] no [12:44] phew! [12:44] Universe is team maintained [12:44] ok [12:44] i.e., community members (the MOTU) with upload rights take care of Universe [12:45] ah, thats good [12:47] the problem is there are only ~ 30 MOTUs for ~15000 packages [12:48] which means we prefer that people don't just dump packages in & run :) [12:49] ... fine [12:50] Red_Herring: if you want some reading on packaging, I would suggest http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/ and http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html [12:51] i dont want any howtos or suggestions about packaging until i get an actual install of dapper to work with! === redguy [n=mati@afc4.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:52] grr, sorry, my computer has been broken for a while now [12:52] Red_Herring: well, good luck with that. I can't help you there. [12:53] ok, thanks anyway [12:54] Red_Herring: you might be better off enlisting somebody else who might be interested in packaging it. [12:54] im trying that now in #easyubuntu === crimsun_ [n=crimsun@66.248.140.183] has joined #ubuntu-motu === FunnyLookinHat [n=FunnyLoo@71.57.11.218] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:22] hi [01:22] can someone point me to that wireless compat wiki page? [01:24] bah [01:24] nevermind [01:26] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WirelessChipsets [01:26] the Atheros Super G does not support WPA according to this page, right? [01:27] might as well use WEP w/ MAC filtering [01:27] :-/ [01:27] although it's pretty useless [01:28] still marginally better than none at all === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu === kbrooks [n=kbrooks@unaffiliated/kbrooks] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:50] I'm willing to sponsor a upload of the frostwire package available at http://www.frostwire.com/static/downloads.html to universe [01:51] for dapper+1 [01:51] huh? [01:51] how would you sponsor said upload? [01:51] crimsun_: i dont know how. what are the available methods? [01:52] you can't "sponsor" unless you have upload privileges. [01:53] does frostwire build and run correctly with gcj? [01:53] crimsun_: ? [01:53] crimsun_: im on breezy [01:53] kbrooks: where are you confused? [01:54] crimsun_: well [01:54] crimsun_: i havent checked. ill install the package === bpuccio [n=brian@ool-457a9c38.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === crimsun [i=crimsun@pdpc/supporter/silver/crimsun] has joined #ubuntu-motu === theCore [n=alex@toronto-HSE-ppp4205896.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=jsg@210.4.38.43] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lakin [n=lakin@S01060013101832ce.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === marcin` [n=user@194.114.146.58] has joined #ubuntu-motu === truz24 [n=truz24@12-203-70-118.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:53] chillywilly: best thing to do is not use either WEP or MAC locking and then use real-encryption (SSH, VPN) === reda_ea [n=reda@adsl196-103-70-206-196.adsl196-3.iam.net.ma] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJock [n=LaserJoc@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tritium [n=tritium@ubuntu/member/tritium] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:14] hi tritium [03:14] hi LaserJock === _jason [n=jasonr@dhcp0534.hrn.resnet.group.upenn.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo_ [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === FunnyLookinHat [n=FunnyLoo@71.57.11.218] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jaldhar [n=jaldhar@c-68-38-202-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:34] sladen: yea I could do that I suppose [03:35] sladen: I have openwrt on the AP/router so I can do all kinds of nifty things === robertj [n=robertj@66-188-77-153.dhcp.athn.ga.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:40] hey all, can anyone try to find out what happened to quake3 and why it never got out of revu even though the last action taken (Jan) was looking very good? === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:43] robertj: it isn't in Dapper? [03:44] not according to http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=quake3&searchon=names&subword=1&version=all&release=all === tritium [n=tritium@ubuntu/member/tritium] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:46] hi motus [03:46] hi [03:48] meh where is bddebian when I need him? [03:50] robertj: hmm, odd. It looks like it was supposed to be uploaded [03:56] LaserJock: is there a next step? [03:56] profit? [03:58] robertj: sistpoty said he was going to upload it [03:59] so maybe some poking is in order ;-) [04:01] LaserJock: according to revu it looks like daemon@poleboy dot de was the person who was going to upload [04:02] yeah, that is sistpoty, why don't you just email him and politely ask him if he has done it ;-) === Sergi0 [n=serge@ip227-28-166-62.adsl.versatel.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Meyer [i=mariomey@ubuntu/member/mariomeyer] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jaldhar [n=jaldhar@c-68-38-202-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:26] polite email sent [04:26] great [04:28] Meh I wanna ask bddebian about the status of DHCP in HURD [04:31] heh [04:33] dhcp is for wimps [04:33] or for people whose campus only uses DHCP [04:33] and for wimps [04:33] :) [04:33] last time i tried hurd [04:33] if you hit the keyboard while it was booting [04:33] it'd kernel panic [04:33] did they fix that yet? :) [04:34] dunno [04:34] probably not [04:34] Kyral: last time I used the hurd dhcp was working well enough for me [04:34] ajmitch: ty :D [04:35] I'm just installing it in Qemu anyway [04:35] so why ask, if you would have found out in a few minutes? [04:35] afaik only bddebian & myself have been crazy enough round here to do anything with the hurd === mitsuhiko [n=mitsuhik@ringmaster.active-4.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:39] ajmitch: more like a couple hours... [04:40] the debian ISO is downloading and my school has a bandwidth cap of 78 Kb/S [04:53] This should be interesting...installing Gentoo in a Qemu image [04:53] eek [04:53] Kyral: Hope you are running the acceleration kernel module or whatever it is. :) [04:53] hehe [04:54] I'll just nice it down to 19 :D [04:54] TheMuso: nope.... [04:57] Kyral: I ran the Gentoo livecd installer in a qemu on my iMac. Seemed pretty nice for a graphical installer === Ubugtu [n=bugbot@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:59] uhh [04:59] how do I setup the bridge to Eth0? [05:15] who decides which kernel to put on the repositories? I notice i'm running 2.6.15-20, but on kernel.org they are up to 2.6.16 [05:15] I heard 2.6.16 breaks stuff [05:19] hehe, I reniced Qemu to 19 === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:21] HOBBSEE!! [05:21] hey Kyral! === Hobbsee is killing time, chatting from the uni :D [05:21] sup? [05:22] just done an assignment, stuff for the chem prac in 40 mins... [05:22] not a lot :) [05:22] heh [05:22] looking vaguely at my comp assignment, and screaming loudly [05:22] I'm playing around with KQemu [05:22] Reniced Qemu down to 19 :P [05:22] ooh nice! [05:23] which OS with it? [05:23] Right now FC5 [05:23] I was gonna do Gentoo [05:23] but I dunno how to get the Bridging working [05:23] eventually I'll do HURD [05:26] ah ok [05:26] hehe [05:30] meh I hate the FC installer [05:30] forget it === Hobbsee has never bothered with it === Hobbsee couldnt even install suse, so went back. === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.36] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:32] you should try Arch [05:34] could do === Hobbsee had heard the wireless was good on suse, so was looking for interesting stuff to bring back [05:38] hello Hobbsee [05:39] hey ajmitch :) [05:39] hi Hobbsee and ajmitch [05:39] hey LaserJock [05:39] hello again LaserJock [05:40] ajmitch: I already said hi? [05:40] my memory must be slipping [05:40] well I was was around a couple of hours ago :) === torkel [i=torkel@69-188.umenet.t3.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:40] Holy Netsplit batman === chillywilly [n=danielb@CPE-24-209-126-16.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:41] ajmitch: ah, so it wasn't that bad === nikolas_ [n=nick@unaffiliated/nicktastic] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Riddell [i=jr@muse.19inch.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:41] hehe === jamessan [n=jamessan@debian/developer/jamessan] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:41] StevenK: ping? [05:41] Man I really need to get a Dapper Qemu image up [05:43] why? 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[06:58] I do in Amarok [06:58] even in ArchLinux :P [06:59] but I have to hit the sack [06:59] night kiddos :P === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zenrox [n=zenrox@71.115.198.118] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:15] LaserJock: is only rb affected? [07:16] I think so [07:16] it has been that way for a while but I haven't used rb for a while === FliesLikeABrick [n=Ryan@about/rpi/rawdor] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-motu === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu === carthik [n=carthik@unaffiliated/carthik] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TMM [n=hp@ip5650d1ab.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:16] hi again everyone! [09:16] hi Hobbsee === Hobbsee survived her chem prac :P [09:18] yeah for chem! === lucas [n=lucas@ubuntu/member/lucas] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:22] didnt manage to poison anyone either, or get yelled at [09:22] i suspect the tutor for the prac was trying to set me up with the guy that i was working with though... [09:22] lol [09:22] hehe [09:23] you've got to watch out for those chemists [09:23] well, as long as you didn't hurt yourself I'd say you did OK. I hate it when students cut themselves on glassware or something [09:25] haha yeah, that's true === Hobbsee ends up cutting herself on all sorts of things - including cigarette boxes! === Pupeno [n=Pupeno@80-102-226-85.bcn2.dialup.uni2.es] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:34] Hello. [09:34] Where is that page with information about uploading upgraded packages (for the next Ubuntu) ? [09:37] Pupeno: perhaps wiki.ubuntu.com/REVU ? === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:37] LaserJock: maybe. [09:37] do you want how to upgrade the package or where to put it? [09:38] it is an upgrade, yes. === dholbach [n=daniel@i577B0AB1.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === doko [n=doko@dslb-088-073-086-214.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:59] hi dholbach [09:59] hey LaserJock [10:00] are you going to be super busy in the next day or two? [10:00] why you ask? :) [10:00] the doc string freeze is tomorrow (probably today for you) and I almost have the Packaging Guide done [10:01] but I would like somebody like you to look it over for policy violations, etc ;-) [10:01] write to ubuntu-devel@ that you need reviews [10:01] I'll send and email asking for review to -motu and -devel but in the past I haven't gotten much response [10:02] maybe -devel will be better, people seem to complain easily enough when they don't have to fix ;-) === pef [n=pef@42.42.64-86.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === kelmo_lap [n=kel@madwifi/support/kelmo] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:29] hi === iceman [n=iceman@physInfo-mac26.ulb.ac.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bmonty [n=bmontgom@ubuntu/member/bmonty] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:57] hi here === zakame [n=zakame@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gervystar [n=gervysta@217-133-96-194.b2b.tiscali.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jinty [n=jinty@135.Red-80-37-34.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Pupeno [n=Pupeno@80-102-226-85.bcn2.dialup.uni2.es] has left #ubuntu-motu ["I] === P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@201.230.174.85] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Ubugtu [n=bugbot@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ctd [i=ctd@incubus.progsoc.uts.edu.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dewd_ [n=dewd@201.29.107.23] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ZuZubuntu-fr [n=ZuZubunt@AVelizy-154-1-27-136.w82-124.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === JohnnyMast [n=rave@84-104-9-27.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === koke [n=koke@ubuntu/member/koke] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lionelp [n=lionel@ip-128.net-82-216-65.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === erez [n=erez@85-250-217-183.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #ubuntu-motu === kelmo [n=kelmo@madwifi/support/kelmo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lbm [n=lbm@x1-6-00-13-10-7a-d1-e4.k233.webspeed.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:47] hi siretart === Toadstool [n=jcorbier@maisel-gw.enst-bretagne.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Se7h [n=MUAHAHAH@81.193.81.202] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:53] hey kelmo [12:56] siretart: i have proposed a compromise for our recent discussion === lakin [n=lakin@S01060013101832ce.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:59] siretart: http://rafb.net/paste/results/fwmNBF31.html === nomed [n=nomed@host34-193.pool8254.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:19] kelmo: interesting. but, wouldn't it be more easy to rely on /sys? isn't this what sysfs is for? [01:20] siretart: well, i still use linux 2.4 as well [01:24] kelmo: oh. now I begin to understand why you objected to my proposal. TBH, I expect etch to not support linux 2.4 anymore [01:25] siretart: proc is equally as useful, imho, in this case [01:25] kelmo: if your detection works on 2.6 as well, I'd say lets include it in our next upload (I think the 0.4.9 release could come soon[tm] ), and close the detection bug [01:26] siretart: 2.4 on one machine, and that is no choice of mine really ; ) [01:34] siretart: but as you know, i am opposed to any sort of driver "guessing", this is about the only really robust way i could think of, and quite simple too === slomo_ [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jinty [n=jinty@135.Red-80-37-34.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:53] kelmo: I think the bug submitter would be happy with this, given that he cares at all anymore === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:55] hi al [01:55] hi zakame [01:56] siretart: ok, i'll commit and maintain that for as long as it is useful [01:56] hello Gloubiboulga [01:56] kelmo: thanks. [01:57] huhu kelmo siretart [01:58] hey zakame === hub [n=hub@toronto-hs-216-138-231-194.s-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:01] hi zakame [02:02] how do I help with DhIconCacheChanges? Do I just add dh_iconcache to debian/rules then rebuild and upload? === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:06] zakame: yes [02:06] ok then [02:06] zakame: if you want to make 100% sure that it worked, check that it really gets called in the buildlog or check for the postinst :) [02:06] but that should be about it [02:07] Seveas: ping === iceman [n=iceman@physInfo-mac26.ulb.ac.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:07] Hobbsee, ? [02:07] dholbach: yes, I'd like to be 100% + 1 sure :) === phanatic [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:07] ROCK! ON! :) [02:07] hi people [02:07] Seveas: any chance we can get ubugtu in #kubuntu permanently? [02:08] :) [02:08] heya phanatic [02:08] #kubuntu-devel you mean? [02:08] or #kubuntu too? [02:08] hi zakame [02:08] kubuntu as well [02:08] already in kubuntu devel === truz24 [n=truz24@12-203-70-118.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hirion [n=hirion@draugr.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:10] thanks zakame! [02:11] dholbach: my pleasure :) === Gazer [n=gazer@ADSL-216-244-238-163.capfed2.sinectis.com.ar] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying-ibook [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.36] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:25] zakame, could you upload libtranslate between 2 dh_iconcache uploads? :) [02:25] Gloubiboulga: oi! almost forgot that! :) [02:25] :) [02:25] with this lib fixed gnome-translate could be available for dapper [02:29] hey Gloubiboulga :) [02:29] hi phanatic, how are you? [02:30] oh fine, thanks. i'm having a look at the hungarian translation of debian-installer. quite messy :/ [02:30] hehe [02:31] Gloubiboulga: and what about you? :) [02:33] well I'm fine too :) [02:33] I try to help Xubuntu as much as I can since a few weeks [02:35] are there more people, or still just a few? [02:35] more users, but still a few devs... [02:36] I hope it'll change with the rocking iso images ;) [02:36] i'm sure it will ;) [02:43] Gloubiboulga: just uploaded :) [02:44] thanks zakame :) [02:44] Gloubiboulga: no prob :) === koke [n=koke@ubuntu/member/koke] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu === G0SUB [n=ghoseb@ubuntu/member/g0sub] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hub [n=hub@storm-gw.xandros.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@mail.ottens.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:20] Howdy folks === MagnusR [n=magru@c83-250-59-127.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:23] heya bddebian! [03:23] bddebian: I notice some of your uploads haven't hit the archive yet :/ [03:23] zakame: Hi. Which ones? [03:24] hmm I remember maelstrom for one [03:25] I was just looking at that on the buglist :-) === lionelp [n=lionel@ip-128.net-82-216-65.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:27] cool [03:29] Gah, which i810 driver bug was that person looking at yesterday? Hmm [03:31] Hmm, wtf [03:34] I don't even see my maelstrom now.. [03:43] a .desktop bug bddebian ? [03:45] hmmm, could it be because of distribution-not-dapper ? [03:46] (just hit that snag myself today, with preload) === lucas [n=lucas@ubuntu/member/lucas] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:49] Gloubiboulga: Aye [03:49] bug 31118 maybe [03:49] Malone bug 31118 in maelstrom "Maelstrom is missing a .desktop file" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/31118 [03:49] zakame: Aye, I did that on a couple but I swore that one got accepted but I can find the e-mail [03:49] Gloubiboulga: Yes [03:50] bddebian: iirc there are no individual accepted/rejected files, only those on dapper-changes [03:56] hmm is packages.u.c down? === ogra_ibook [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cbx33 [n=pete@84-45-238-195.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:03] afternoon all [04:03] Hello cbx33 [04:03] bddebian, histarted looking at the packaging docs today [04:04] Great [04:04] but afraid I got stuck [04:04] :p [04:04] it all looks ok, but i ran into problems with pbuilder [04:04] hi cbx33 [04:04] hi zakame [04:04] it was creating the debootstrap that failed [04:04] with vi-runtime package dependency [04:05] this is what I did....you guys can tell me if it's the reason it broke [04:05] I am running breezy....so i installed pbuilder as per instructions [04:05] cbx33: Did you read the Pbuilder HowTo wiki page? [04:06] on the wiki....changed the sources.list to be dapper, and the extracted the dapper debootstrap script from the source and plonked it into my filestructure [04:06] can i have a pbuilder environment with dapper on a breezy system [04:07] yes cbx33 [04:07] of course [04:07] i thought it must be [04:07] forgive my stupidity [04:08] think anyone could givem a hand getting it up and running in a mo [04:08] just gonna get the laptop [04:09] Ack, it was an unstable/dapper thing for maelstrom.. [04:09] <-- dumbass [04:11] bddebian: you're not alone ;-) [04:11] That's my 3rd one so far.. :'-( [04:12] ok I'm starting the pbuilder from scrath again [04:12] it's ok cos thi sis on another machine [04:12] and one which i would be using for this kinda thing anyway === Pupeno [n=Pupeno@80-102-226-85.bcn2.dialup.uni2.es] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:15] WTF, I did it for spider too :-( [04:15] Hello. [04:16] I've uploaded a package to revu but it doesn't appear here http://revu.tauware.de/ === bddebian blames Emmet for that one. His changelog entry :-) [04:16] Pupeno: Is your key on REVU? [04:16] What might I be missing ? === bddebian does the summon crimsun dance [04:17] bddebian: it should be, it was added, some days ago (is there a deadline to upload the first package) ? [04:17] Pupeno: No, shouldn't be [04:18] Pupeno: how long ago did you submit the package? [04:19] Hobbsee: 3 or 4 hours ago. [04:19] oh ok [04:19] ok guys [04:19] I've re-installed pbuilder [04:20] editited the pbuilderrrc [04:20] just about to edit the sources.list file to dapper [04:22] What person/team should we assign main bugs too? [04:23] bddebian: awww [04:24] zakame: ? [04:24] ok sources edited [04:24] run the opbuilder create now? [04:25] bddebian: maelstrom, then spider... [04:25] zakame: Oh :-) [04:25] ok...that breaks [04:25] cbx33, yep :) [04:25] shall i do what i did last time and download the debootstrap source to extract the dapper script? [04:26] cbx33, do you have a error message? [04:26] cbx33: Maybe I'm out of the loop but what do you need debootstrap for pbuilder for? [04:26] to biuld the environment [04:27] using pbuilder create [04:27] as in the docs === Yagisan [n=jamie@60-240-68-200-nsw-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:27] I'm following this tut [04:27] http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html [04:28] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto?highlight=%28PbuilderHowTo%29 [04:29] sudo pbuilder create --distribution breezy [04:29] that step breaks on mine [04:29] i'm doing it for dapper [04:29] for a start there is no dapper script in breezy obviously [04:29] G'day all. Do we have something like debian-legal for ubuntu ? I'd like a quick check of a license template to see if it is ok as a template [04:30] so i downloaded the debootstrap source and copied it out [04:30] cbx33: Create your pbuilder with breezy first (with breezy in sources.list). Then create it. Than change pbuilder source.list to dapper and do an upgrade [04:31] ok [04:32] ok [04:32] going === caci [i=sk@andariel.informatik.uni-erlangen.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === caravena [n=caravena@200.55.195.158] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:49] w00t === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cbx33 has setup pbuilder on dapper === No1Viking [n=Viking@h-83-140-104-3.ip.cust.port80.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:53] cbx33: congrats. Now what are you going to build ? [04:53] hello [04:53] as per my tut instructions :p [04:54] I'll get to the bigger stuff oneday [04:54] oh, we have a packaging guide ? [04:54] yes [04:55] I never noticed. === FunnyLookinHat [n=FunnyLoo@167.246.8.60] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:01] ok [05:01] got a problem :p [05:01] make -i distclean doesn;t have a target === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-010-056.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-010-056.pools.arcor-ip.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Kopete] [05:10] anyone got a spare sec? [05:11] cbx33: Just ask :-) [05:11] well I'm trying to build the source package for hello [05:11] i ge a .changes file [05:12] but it's failing because it can't run the distclean.....this is bcause Makefile is not there [05:12] that arrives after the ./configure doesn;t it? [05:12] that's expected [05:12] ...if you build a source pacakge [05:12] dpkg-buildpackage just runs debian/rules clean, which basically has nothing to do if you did not build the program before [05:13] yeh....so i have to build the binaries first? [05:13] what are you trying to dO? [05:13] well i have the source [05:13] ok [05:13] the tutorial I'm follwoing says to build the source file [05:13] the package [05:13] but it;s failing [05:14] after i do the source it says to do the binary one [05:14] is it really failing, or is the error ignored? [05:14] it says it was ignored [05:14] ah don;t wory [05:14] I'm being stupid [05:15] cbx33: Welcome to the club :-) [05:15] no I'm not [05:15] where does the file get created? [05:15] in .. [05:15] the src deb [05:16] swat i thought [05:16] it's not there [05:16] only a .changes file [05:16] source.changes? [05:16] yes [05:16] no .dsc? [05:16] yes [05:16] but that was there before [05:16] ah [05:16] i see [05:16] :p === cbx33 bangs his head :p === cbx33 goes for a binary build package [05:18] w00t [05:18] it works [05:18] where's the source .deb? [05:20]