[12:00] <ubuntu_rules> how do you edit your 'crontab'?
[12:00] <keithhhhhhhhh> ah
[12:00] <DaS> quick question: how do I see my mac address
[12:00] <ompaul> Volny, ehhhhhhhhh if you know what they are doing, you trust people too much
[12:00] <keithhhhhhhhh> hmmm
[12:00] <Kolan> bobbyd: Im running a server so I dont have either KDE or Gnome installed
[12:00] <Jowi> ubuntu_rules: crontab -e
[12:00] <Cooner750> It will work with sound effects like the 'thunk' sound but not MP3s
[12:00] <ubuntu_rules> Jowi, in terminal? ty
[12:00] <wang_> hey guys.. is there a windows emulator available for ubuntu on a MAC
[12:00] <william> Can Anyone help me set up a second monitor??
[12:01] <bobbyd> DaS: ifconfig
[12:01] <bobbyd> DaS: it's HWaddr
[12:01] <DaS> bobbyd: Thanks man
[12:01] <bobbyd> DaS: np
[12:01] <Raul654> also - can someone recommend a good graphical SFTP client?
[12:01] <ompaul> wang_, yes, look at downloads on wiki.ubuntu.com
[12:01] <Jowi> ubuntu_rules: yes. "man crontab" for more info
[12:01] <dawid> hey how do i install these themes?
[12:01] <william> Cooner750, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-a57167a3ce442dc52d9b05e46a14503330d4e970
[12:01] <bobbyd> Kolan: I suppose it'll be in the manual for apt-get...
[12:02] <Cooner750> I already have that installed...
[12:02] <ubuntu_rules> Jowi, i am trying to use lire, and its telling me to set up a store and to make sure i have some lr_cron calls in my personal crontab
[12:02] <iceman> how to apt-get crossfire ?
[12:02] <ubuntu_rules> ty
[12:02] <wang_> thanks
[12:02] <Cooner750> If I go to the Sounds control panel and play any of the system sounds the Volume Monitor shows the levels. It does not do this with MP3s
[12:03] <bobbyd> iceman: apt-cache search crossfire
[12:03] <Cooner750> Does the audio output driver matter? I cant get ALSA to work
[12:03] <Jowi> ubuntu_rules: never heard of lire. crontab is flexible to the extreme and is not easilly covered over irc (at least I think so). the manual have loads of good info about crons.
[12:03] <Cooner750> "Failed to construct test pipeline"
[12:04] <ubuntu_rules> Jowi, ty...  i am reading it now
[12:04] <william> Cooner750, have you check the gstreamer-properties?
[12:04] <Cooner750> Ok... apparently ALSA works but the test does not.. Why do things seem to run 'slower' with ALSA? Like the spectrum in XMMS?
[12:05] <dawid> how can i see what version of gtk i am running?
[12:05] <apokryphos> dawid: dpkg -l|grep gtk
[12:06] <Jowi> ubuntu_rules: "man 5 crontab" have many config examples
[12:06] <dawid> ty
[12:06] <jackhanna> anyone know of problems with installing Dapper on a G3 900 ibook.. I keep getting a error during install that the selected kernel cant be installed
[12:06] <Achiles> 0i32-023ri
[12:06] <Achiles> 230ri-0e2-
[12:06] <sovieticool> wow easyubuntu is very easyyy :)))
[12:07] <william> Can anybody help me set up my second monitor, the directions i found aren't very clear
[12:07] <apokryphos> sovieticool: and safe. Indeed, that is the aim :)
[12:09] <swim> hrmm I cant find bin2iso in the repos
[12:09] <sovieticool> apokryphos i get the point ;)
[12:09] <ubuntu_rules> Jowi, ty for the info, although i found it of little/no use for what i need to do lol
[12:09] <apokryphos> !info bin2iso
[12:09] <sovieticool> now i try to install xgl :D
[12:09] <apokryphos> swim: you'll have to get it from dear google then, I imagine.
[12:09] <bsdfox> william, nvidia card?
[12:09] <swim> ok
[12:10] <Achiles> apokryphos ti kaneis edw re malaka
[12:10] <william> bsdfox, no ati
[12:10] <ubuntu_rules> apokryphos, know anything about crontabs? lol
[12:10] <bsdfox> it probably doesn't work :(
[12:10] <apokryphos> Achiles: ola kala :). /j #kubuntu-gr for Greek though ;-)
[12:11] <jd_> hi. I'm looking for Matthew East, mdke I guess, is he using irc (save an email)?
[12:11] <apokryphos> ubuntu_rules: not really
[12:11] <majd> i made a shortcut to a program in my menu, i set it to run the following comman in the terminal : cd /usr/local/Zend/ZendStudioClient-5.1.0/bin/ && sudo ./ZDE
[12:11] <jackhanna> any PPC Dapper users in the room?
[12:11] <majd> when i click on it, it prompts me for the password in the terminal but nothing happens
[12:11] <apokryphos> jd_: more likely to find him in #ubuntu-doc
[12:11] <majd> when i copy-paste that same comman into the terminal and run it directly there, it works
[12:11] <IdleOne> jd_, are you serious?
[12:11] <jd_> thank you :)
[12:11] <Jowi> ubuntu_rules: well, cron is *basicly* a scheduler. pick a date and time and type in what you want it to do at that time. that's it. but as i said. it is flexible - to the extreme. for example you can set up a command at only odd hours the 22nd of april 2008.
[12:11] <IdleOne> guess he was
[12:11] <apokryphos> ubuntu_rules: I assure you I'm not :)
[12:11] <majd> also, is  there a way to make it run without having to have the menu open all the time?
[12:11] <ubuntu_rules> lol
[12:11] <william> bsdfox, do you know how to do it for an ati graphics card?
[12:12] <jd_> IdleOne, yes. irc is fast, so if he is on Freenode...
[12:12] <Jowi> ubuntu_rules: i think there should be a gui for it as well if i'm not mistaken. can't remember the name though...
[12:12] <apokryphos> jackhanna: dapper discussion better in #ubuntu+1
[12:12] <carthik> how can i see the messages that scroll by at boot?
[12:13] <ubuntu_rules> Jowi, i know that much, however this prgm is telling me to make sure i have some lr_cron calls in my personal crontab...
[12:13] <Sh4d0x> duelboot, i'm back
[12:13] <apokryphos> carthik: might be worth checking if scroll-lock does it
[12:13] <bsdfox> william, like I said.. it probably doesn't work
[12:13] <bsdfox> ati linux drivers are pretty bad
[12:13] <duelboot> sh4d0x, any luck?
[12:13] <carthik> apokryphos, no, after I have logged in?
[12:13] <apokryphos> carthik: nope, at bootup
[12:13] <Sh4d0x> duelboot, it diddn't worked, so i have token my 20 m lan cable and connected via lan
[12:13] <Jowi> ubuntu_rules: http://download.logreport.org/pub/current/doc/user-manual/ch04s05.html
[12:13] <duelboot> lol...sort of
[12:14] <bsdfox> if you just want a clone it should work right now..
[12:14] <ubuntu_rules> ty
[12:14] <carthik> apokryphos, i mean to say, how can i see the messages that scrolled up at boot-time after I am logged into a gdm session, is there a log file that stores that?
[12:14] <duelboot> you can troubleshoot better that way sh4d0x
[12:14] <duelboot> PM me
[12:14] <ploom> bsdfox, could you share in what sense the ati drivers are bad?
[12:14] <bsdfox> tv-out doesn't work
[12:14] <ubuntu_rules> cricky! my hd is about to go on me... =(
[12:14] <Sh4d0x> duelboot, dunno how to do that in xchat :$
[12:15] <apokryphos> carthik: hm, not that I know of :(
[12:15] <ubuntu_rules> its makin WIERD sounds
[12:15] <ploom> bsdfox, because they use require 32bit libs on amd64 and/or because they appear to work for the first x server only??
[12:15] <bsdfox> framerates, comparably, are a joke
[12:15] <firemaker103> Sorry for this dumb question, but what is the default admin username and password when you do a default installation?
[12:15] <duelboot> sh4d0x, i sent you one
[12:15] <duelboot> look on the bottom
[12:15] <Jowi> ubuntu_rules: can't file lr_cron command though
[12:15] <Jowi> file=find
[12:15] <TruckerMan> Ok, so i just got pissed off and frustrated and decided to just double click the tarzippity dippity doo dah icon
[12:16] <bsdfox> ploom, uses 'doesnt work' technology on my laptop
[12:16] <TruckerMan> and then clicied the install and now whats it doing?
[12:16] <vincenz> two questions
[12:16] <vincenz> a) why is irssi so slow in making connects and ssh as well
[12:16] <vincenz> b) can you boot from USB storage?
[12:16] <firemaker103> Please, anyone?
[12:16] <vincenz> (like an external h
[12:16] <vincenz> d)
[12:16] <ploom> bsdfox, even the latest "unified" driver from ati homepage does this?
[12:16] <urli> hello
[12:17] <urli> were can i see the device manager
[12:17] <ploom> any idea - are Nvidia drivers really so much better - even for 64bit?
[12:17] <bliss1_> nickrud: hI hows life?
[12:17] <bsdfox> I havn't tried it.. just using whatever version dapper has
[12:18] <apokryphos> ploom: of course
[12:18] <bsdfox> I've got an amd64/nvidia desktop running gentoo and it works well
[12:18] <Jowi> vincenz: a) if you're behind a router or using a firewall that might be the problem. b) yes, depending on your BIOS and/or USB-storage device. not all usb-storage devices support it even if your bios does
[12:18] <bpew> I think the answer is no... but is there a way to access shared music libraries off of itunes?
[12:18] <ploom> just give ati some time then...
[12:18] <apokryphos> ploom: amd64 controls the processor, but nvidia controls the graphics so things like drawing windows etc etc is a lot faster. Makes a big difference.
[12:18] <vincenz> Jowi: I'm behind a router... but the ssh connection was to my local desktop ( the other computer)
[12:18] <vincenz> Jowi: b) I want to take an external hd and put it into a USB-portable case
[12:18] <vincenz> internal hd even
[12:18] <firemaker103> Anyone? :(
[12:19] <bsdfox> apokryphos, what?
[12:19] <moshe> hello, folks
[12:19] <nick|here> does ubuntu have partition manager in setup ? can we resize ntfs partition ?
[12:19] <bsdfox> sounds like blind leading the blind
[12:19] <moshe> anyone here running dapper?
[12:19] <Jowi> vincenz: b) you must check the specs of that enclosing if your bios support the booting part.
[12:19] <vincenz> ok
[12:19] <TruckerMan> !make
[12:20] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, TruckerMan
[12:20] <bpew> nick|here, don't quote me on this, but I'd be very surprised if you could resize ntfs partitions in linux
[12:20] <apokryphos> bsdfox: perhaps I'm grouping the actions under the wrong category. But many basic things, i.e. Qt's Rubberband selection tool rely more heavily on the graphics card
[12:20] <got2b3d> I followed the instructions on the ubuntuguide to install the nvidia drivers.  I changed the video memory and start with agp in BIOS.  When I plug my monitor into my graphics card it doesn't work.
[12:20] <TruckerMan> i'm trying to compile with #make  no command, why not?
[12:20] <bliss1_> got a RAM question
[12:20] <Jowi> !ubuntuguide
[12:20] <ubotu> rumour has it, ubuntuguide is out of date, reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead
[12:20] <apokryphos> got2b3d: ubuntuguide is bad. Use the wiki/ubotu.
[12:21] <bobbyd> nick|here: try qtparted
[12:21] <tristanmike> TruckerMan: "sudo apt-get install build-essential"   did you do this yet ?
[12:21] <apokryphos> TruckerMan: install build-essential
[12:21] <swim> is bin2iso the only bin/cue converter available? I dont have java and dont want it at the moment
[12:21] <apokryphos> swim: I'm pretty sure it doesn't require java
[12:21] <TruckerMan> do
[12:21] <TruckerMan> wait
[12:21] <Jowi> !tell got2b3d about nvidia
[12:21] <TruckerMan> brb
[12:21] <nick|here> i have an installed winxp in my disk and have only one partition
[12:21] <vincenz> Jowi: so it's not only dependent on my computer but the enclosure as well? afaik those enclosures just link an IDE interface to a USB interface
[12:22] <bsdfox> apokryphos, in what
[12:22] <Jowi> vincenz: that's what I have understood from it at least. I don't have an enclosure to test with, I only have bad experience from some usb-keys - some work others dont
[12:22] <apokryphos> bsdfox: what?
[12:23] <vincenz> Jowi: ok thanks :)
[12:23] <Jowi> np vincenz
[12:23] <bsdfox> in Xgl? yeah
[12:23] <bsdfox> not in Xorg
[12:23] <apokryphos> bsdfox: no
[12:23] <apokryphos> yes, in Xorg
[12:23] <bsdfox> no
[12:23] <bsdfox> man any video card made in the last 8 years is way faster than your desktop
[12:24] <apokryphos> bsdfox: what are you talking about?
[12:24] <bsdfox> ?
[12:24] <apokryphos> bsdfox: several things (including basic operation) require a graphic card's hardware acceleration to run more smoothly
[12:24] <apokryphos> I don't know why you're denying that..
[12:25] <Agent_bob> could i trubble one of you fine folks to 'cat /etc/inittab' and tell me the line at the end that enables serial connection ?
[12:25] <bsdfox> 3D acceleration?
[12:25] <bsdfox> I don't think you're right
[12:25] <Bambino> how hard is it to set up so i can browese ths computer from work?
[12:25] <ryhzhang> hey... any of you know how to get "edje_thumb"?
[12:25] <bsdfox> Bambino, easy
[12:26] <bsdfox> www.dyndns.org
[12:26] <Agent_bob> anyone ?
[12:26] <Bambino> i wanna access the internet via my laptop , this one, whilst a work.
[12:26] <apokryphos> Bambino: not too hard. VNC is nice. For CLI access ssh is just fine.
[12:26] <Jowi> ryhzhang: edje is one of the libs used in enlightenment if i'm not mistaken :)
[12:26] <apokryphos> Bambino: if it's network you can use its Internet without having to browse things on that computer.
[12:26] <eugenio> I'm in Ubuntu for first time ..and i'm online and chatting in so few time ...COOOOLLLL!!!!
[12:26] <Bambino> apokryphos: i am not used to linux so what is CLI access?
[12:27] <steveire> whats the command to move a directory. I tried mvdir.
[12:27] <apokryphos> Bambino: on the command line
[12:27] <apokryphos> steveire: it's still mv
[12:27] <Agent_bob> mv
[12:27] <Bambino> apokryphos: its my laptop at home, i wanna be able to connect to it wheni am at work
[12:27] <steveire> cool
[12:27] <ryhzhang> Jowi: yeah... however, when I installed, the edje_thumb is not there...
[12:27] <TruckerMan> !./configure
[12:27] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, TruckerMan
[12:27] <apokryphos> Bambino: if they both have an Internet connection, then you can
[12:27] <TruckerMan> !configure
[12:27] <ubotu> TruckerMan: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:27] <Agent_bob>                could i trubble one of you fine folks to 'cat /etc/inittab' and tell me the line at the end that enables serial connection ?
[12:27] <apokryphos> Bambino: /msg ubotu vnc
[12:27] <ryhzhang> i think i need to get the source and recompile from scratch...
[12:27] <Bambino> thanks
[12:28] <Bambino> apokryphos: appreciated, thanks
[12:28] <Jowi> ryhzhang: fetch it from the latest e17 CVS. I have it.
[12:28] <ryhzhang> it does work for fedora core tho... but somehow, ubuntu package doesn't get the files properly
[12:28] <ryhzhang> cool thanks Jowi!
[12:29] <steveire> how do i rename a folder?
[12:29] <apokryphos> rm -rf
[12:29] <apokryphos> steveire: rename with mv, or rename 8)
[12:29] <steveire> rm -rf old new?
[12:29] <eugenio> Hey! Who know a good PHP editor for Ubuntu?  ..thanx for ansering
[12:29] <apokryphos> steveire: rm -rf will REMOVE the folder
[12:29] <steveire> sorry
[12:29] <apokryphos> sorry, I read you wrong
[12:29] <TruckerMan> Ok, well I got a #make command now, but this README is telling me to run ./configure first and i dont have ConfigurE
[12:29] <steveire> tired
[12:29] <Jowi> steveire: rm -rf = force delete
[12:29] <steveire> GMT
[12:29] <steveire> hehe
[12:29] <apokryphos> steveire: mv old new, yes
[12:30] <bpew> you do mv old new
[12:30] <TruckerMan> !configure
[12:30] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, TruckerMan
[12:30] <TruckerMan> !./configure
[12:30] <ubotu> TruckerMan: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:30] <apokryphos> TruckerMan: what's the problem?
[12:30] <tonyyarusso> apokryphos: Minor oops there with the rm, eh?
[12:30] <polpak> TruckerMan, you trying to use autoconf?
[12:31] <ubuntutu> Hey is there a way to add devices to nautilus burner or another cd burnerbesides gnome baker?
[12:31] <TruckerMan> this tar/gz readme install instructions say "run ./configure first"  i get bash no such commaned
[12:31] <apokryphos> tonyyarusso: would've been more oops if he tried to rename his / ;-)
[12:31] <TruckerMan> what is autoconf?
[12:31] <tonyyarusso> apokryphos: Definitely.
[12:31] <polpak> TruckerMan, you need to apt-get install build-essential
[12:31] <TruckerMan> i just did build essentioal
[12:31] <apokryphos> polpak: nope, that's not why he gets that error.
[12:31] <TruckerMan> and fortunately, i now have make
[12:32] <ubuntutu> Trucker man are you in the same directory as the files?
[12:32] <TruckerMan> but configure is absent
[12:32] <apokryphos> TruckerMan: you ha ve to first make sure that you've cd (changed directory) to where you are
[12:32] <polpak> apokryphos, ah
[12:32] <TruckerMan> Ubuntu yes
[12:32] <apokryphos> ./configure isn't a command -- it's running a file inside a directory.  "./" means "here, in this directory"
[12:32] <ubuntutu> Hey is there a third cd burning program for ubuntu?
[12:32] <ubuntutu> besides nautilus and gnome baker?
[12:32] <TruckerMan> double checking
[12:32] <eternex> eternex@ubuntu:~$ dpkg -i wine*.deb
[12:32] <eternex> dpkg: requested operation requires superuser privilege
[12:32] <eternex> eternex@ubuntu:~$
[12:32] <eternex>             what does that mean?
[12:32] <apokryphos> k3b
[12:32] <tonyyarusso> !burners
[12:32] <ubotu> methinks burners is k3b, nautilus cd burner, gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord, and others.
[12:32] <bpew> cdrecord can burn cds
[12:32] <polpak> eternex, please use pastebin
[12:32] <Jowi> ubuntutu: graveman, xcdroarst etc
[12:33] <ubuntutu> thanks
[12:33] <polpak> eternex, and you need to sudo dpkg-i wine*.deb
[12:33] <apokryphos> eternex: it means that you need sudo powers to do the operation.
[12:33] <apokryphos> eternex: /msg ubotu sudo   for more info
[12:34] <ubuntutu> Oh wait. I should have been more specific. I'm guessing none of those can burn data dvd's?
[12:35] <IdleOne> ubuntutu, yes they can
[12:35] <Jowi> ubuntutu: graveman can. but not on-the-fly
[12:35] <ubuntutu> Could you elaborate about the on the fly part?
[12:36] <eternex> when i try to type in the password it doesnt show any text at all
[12:36] <polpak> eternex, that's normal
[12:36] <ubuntutu> eternex that's notmal it freaked me out too.
[12:36] <Jowi> ubuntutu: like copy dvd-to-dvd. but you can set up files in a list and burn.
[12:36] <polpak> eternex, just type it in and hit enter
[12:36] <P__> shouldn t ubuntu install ask me for a root password ?
[12:36] <eternex> ok lol
[12:36] <ubuntutu> ok Yeah I want to do a static burn or whatever it'd be called.
[12:36] <ChrisLSD> ubuntu uses Sudo instead of root
[12:36] <polpak> P__, no, it asks for the administrative user password
[12:36] <Jowi> no P__ . "/msg ubotu root" for more info
[12:36] <polpak> P__, ubuntu disables the root account
[12:37] <P__> well it only asked me to create new users
[12:37] <P__> now i'm at login, and i don't know what to enter then
[12:37] <eternex> the password for sudo is the same as the one for synaptic package right?
[12:37] <polpak> P__, yep. the first one you created is the administrator
[12:37] <polpak> !tell P__ about root
[12:38] <TruckerMan> fuck it, this compiling shit isnt for the likes of me
[12:38] <polpak> TruckerMan, what are you trying to compile?
[12:38] <ompaul> TruckerMan, your right
[12:38] <P__> the first user i crezted is the su ?
[12:38] <P__> *created
[12:38] <polpak> P__, yes
[12:38] <polpak> P__, log in as that user
[12:39] <P__> well when i use it, and try to reboot per instance, it tells me i need su rights
[12:39] <polpak> P__, so try sudo reboot
[12:39] <Nebular> I'm having trouble with X after dist-upgrade to breezy. I"m getting could not open default font 'fixed' error in my xorg log. I've tried searching on the web but the results are confusing
[12:39] <eternex> dpkg: status database area is locked by another processeternex@ubuntu:~$
[12:39] <eternex> what
[12:39] <polpak> eternex, you can't apt-get if you already have synaptic open
[12:39] <Nebular> can anyone point me in the right direction?
[12:39] <odin_> how do I install a plugin to Totem so it can play .mp3's?
[12:39] <eternex> oh
[12:39] <polpak> !tell odin_ about mp3
[12:40] <eternex> well can anyone help me get wine working
[12:40] <P__> where can i find more infos about root has been disabled etc ?
[12:40] <IdleOne> eternex, sudo apt-get install wine
[12:40] <polpak> P__, ubotu sent yo ua PM
[12:40] <P__> ok thanks
[12:40] <polpak> eternex, if you want the latest version you can get it here http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb
[12:41] <eternex> thanks guys, very much
[12:41] <polpak> eternex, it tells you how to configure synaptic to use the winehq repo
[12:41] <ompaul> P__,  have you seen this? http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[12:41] <P__> reading that
[12:41] <polpak> ompaul, yeah, I sent it to him
[12:41] <bliss1_> ompaul: hello
[12:42] <ompaul> bliss1_, dark fair 6oC
[12:42] <juztin> !PSM
[12:42] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, juztin
[12:42] <eternex> yeah but i dont get it very much
[12:42] <ompaul> P__, short version do sudo for a week and you will never look back :)
[12:42] <bliss1_> ompaul: thats about it 63 here
[12:43] <polpak> eternex, don't get which part?
[12:43] <deadlycow21> I NEED HELP
[12:43] <P__> ya maybe better than having a root logged and my user, altought i was used to always be logged as root, which is probably bad
[12:43] <polpak> !justask
[12:43] <ubotu> Ask your question and we'll try to answer it.
[12:43] <polpak> !caps
[12:43] <ubotu> FYI, typing in ALL CAPS is considered to be 'yelling', and therefore rude behaviour.
[12:43] <bliss1_> ompaul:got RAM question
[12:43] <deadlycow21> sorry
[12:43] <P__> now this "problem" is solved, thank you for the info
[12:43] <ompaul> bliss1_, ask rather than state you have a problem :)(
[12:43] <conn_> hi, is anyone here using the ati (r128) driver?
[12:43] <P__> i have another one, X failed to start
[12:43] <polpak> P__, yes, logging in as root is generally not a good idea
[12:44] <polpak> P__, what video card do you have?
[12:44] <strider> need help with anjuta text bug, it looks really crappy, its overlapped on it self, looks like two characters in the same space
[12:44] <P__> polpak, laptop, Geforce Go 7600
[12:44] <deadlycow21> !caps
[12:44] <ubotu> FYI, typing in ALL CAPS is considered to be 'yelling', and therefore rude behaviour.
[12:44] <deadlycow21> !caps
[12:44] <P__> and it didn't find my network interfaces while installing too (wifi + ethernet)
[12:44] <GTX> How much is 10Mbit In Bits?
[12:45] <hyphenated> GTX: 10M
[12:45] <Stealth870> hey, why would my HP Printer, that used to work over LAN and everything with Breezy, not work on a brand new clean install OF breezy, with a DIRECT connection?
[12:45] <GTX> hyphenated, In Bits
[12:45] <ompaul> P__, >> sudo pkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg<< and then do this: choose vesa as the card type - it should work - you may need to do >>sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start <<after that
[12:45] <polpak> P__, are you sure about the network interfaces? If you are on WiFi it just may have had a problem finding your SSID
[12:45] <P__> no it really didn't find the interfaces
[12:45] <Stealth870> even with an old warty liev CD, it works...
[12:45] <hyphenated> GTX: two guesses what the 'M' means
[12:46] <P__> i don't use wifi at home i have no router
[12:46] <feugan3333> Hi all. I'm trying to mount my nfts partition. When do a "fdisk -l" I see /dev/hdc5 but the is no such file on my partition to mount, Anyone have any ideas?
[12:46] <GTX> hyphenated, 1000 Bits ?
[12:46] <deadlycow21> i'm trying to get "NetworkManager-.0.6.0" up... I am having trouble with this because i don't know how to set the "cd" of the terminal correctly
[12:46] <GTX> hyphenated, 10000 Bits *
[12:46] <carthik> how can i search for a text string "genrtc" in a whole directory, recursively?
[12:46] <P__> polpak, there is only the loopback when i do ifconfig btw
[12:46] <deadlycow21> then all i will have to do is type './configure'
[12:46] <hyphenated> GTX: M = million
[12:46] <polpak> feugan3333, what do you mean is no such file on my partition to mount
[12:47] <GTX> hyphenated, Can you just give me the number like 100000bytes :S
[12:47] <eternex> ok i get to where you have to add lines to the list and try to save it but it says permission dinied
[12:47] <polpak> P__, hrm.. probably need to use the ndiswrapper ? I'm not that familiar with network drivers. Mine have always been supported
[12:47] <eternex>  Error writing /etc/apt/sources.list: Permission denied
[12:47] <strider> need help with anjuta text bug, it looks really crappy, its overlapped on it self, looks like two characters in the same space
[12:47] <deadlycow21> i'm trying to get "NetworkManager-.0.6.0" up... I am having trouble with this because i don't know how to set the "cd" of the terminal correctly
[12:47] <deadlycow21> i'm trying to get "NetworkManager-.0.6.0" up... I am having trouble with this because i don't know how to set the "cd" of the terminal correctly
[12:47] <deadlycow21> i'm trying to get "NetworkManager-.0.6.0" up... I am having trouble with this because i don't know how to set the "cd" of the terminal correctly
[12:47] <deadlycow21> oops
[12:47] <eternex> wow dude
[12:47] <GTX> lol..
[12:47] <deadlycow21> sorry
[12:47] <ompaul> deadlycow21, stop that its spam
[12:48] <polpak> eternex, you need to sudo to do that
[12:48] <deadlycow21> i know... my computer froze
[12:48] <eternex> oh again, ok ill try that
[12:48] <polpak> deadlycow21, what does "NetworkManager-.0.6.0" do?
[12:48] <theripper> is there a way to extract .deb in ubuntu?
[12:48] <feugan3333> polpak: I mean if I do an "ls /dev/hdc5" I get an error: "ls: /dev/hdc5: No such file or directory"
[12:48] <P__> polpak, 'pkg-reconfigure" command not found
[12:48] <Jowi> eternex: only root can modify system files. you need to put "sudo" before the command you typed
[12:48] <deadlycow21> it is supposed to be for wifi
[12:48] <ompaul> theripper, dpkg -x foo.db for extraction and dpkg -i foo.deb to install
[12:48] <deadlycow21> but, i cant get it "installed"
[12:48] <eternex> ok
[12:49] <polpak> P__, dpkg-reconfigure and I think it was ompaul that gave you the instruction ;p
[12:49] <ubuntu_> damn this realy workds :)
[12:49] <P__> right
[12:49] <ompaul> P__, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg :) VESA card
[12:49] <polpak> deadlycow21, I think there is already a network manager for ubuntu that works fine for wifi
[12:49] <deadlycow21> really?
[12:49] <polpak> ubuntu_,  what'd you expect ;p
[12:49] <deadlycow21> how do i get it?
[12:50] <theripper> thanks ompaul, ill try to figure that out
[12:50] <strider> need help with anjuta text bug, it looks really crappy, its overlapped on it self, looks like two characters in the same space
[12:50] <polpak> deadlycow21, it's already installed... System->Administration->Networking
[12:50] <ompaul> deadlycow21, click on system adminsitration networking
[12:50] <deadlycow21> the wifi card won't show up
[12:50] <eternex> eternex@ubuntu:~$ suto nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:50] <polpak> deadlycow21, ok, that's a different problem
[12:50] <eternex> right?
[12:51] <Jowi> eternex: "sudo"
[12:51] <strider> need help with anjuta text bug, it looks really crappy, its overlapped on it self, looks like two characters in the same space
[12:51] <ompaul> theripper, one is install - one is extract to view contents
[12:51] <GTX> eternex, sudo not suto
[12:51] <richard__> hello i was wondering how i can go about downloading the windows core fonts
[12:51] <polpak> deadlycow21, you need your wireless network drivers
[12:51] <carthik> richard__, install msttcorefonts
[12:51] <richard__> i have done sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts and it says no install candidate
[12:51] <deadlycow21> but, the driver is for XP
[12:51] <carthik> !tell richard about Universe
[12:51] <polpak> !tell richard about repos
[12:51] <deadlycow21> WG311
[12:51] <richard__> i have them all
[12:51] <deadlycow21> Netgear
[12:52] <Jowi> multiverse
[12:52] <polpak> !info msttcorefonts
[12:52] <ubotu> msttcorefonts: (Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts), section multiverse/x11, is optional. Version: 1.2ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 21 kB, Installed size: 164 kB
[12:52] <carthik> richard__, then perhaps you forgot the sudo apt-get update
[12:52] <strider> need help with anjuta text bug, it looks really crappy, its overlapped on it self, looks like two characters in the same space
[12:52] <strider> need help with anjuta text bug, it looks really crappy, its overlapped on it self, looks like two characters in the same space
[12:52] <feugan3333> Anyone able to help me mount my ntfs partition?
[12:52] <carthik> strider, everyone has problems, man. slow down. if someone knew, they'd be helping you already
[12:52] <polpak> !patience
[12:52] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Please be aware there are a lot of questions, but only maybe few who might know the answer for you. Please be patient. Your attitude may determine their willingness to help you.
[12:53] <deadlycow21> do you know of a way to install a "official" umbuntu wifi thing
[12:53] <polpak> deadlycow21, it's already installed, you just need the proper drivers for your wifi
[12:53] <deadlycow21> but the drivers are only for winXP
[12:53] <polpak> deadlycow21, unfortunately I'm not sure what those'd be as I don't have a lot of experience with wifi
[12:53] <deadlycow21> ok
[12:53] <polpak> deadlycow21, there are possibly open source drivers, or you can use ndiswrapper
[12:54] <deadlycow21> how do i get that?
[12:54] <polpak> deadlycow21, again, I'm not the one to ask.. But perhaps someone else can help
[12:54] <Jowi> deadlycow21: have you looked at the wifi howto?
[12:54] <Jowi> !wifi
[12:54] <deadlycow21> i guess google is :P
[12:54] <ubotu> wifi is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[12:55] <bliss1_> ompaul: I have 768MB of RAM I have one partition with no swap 38 GB with ubuntu found out today that for some reason  I have have 512MB of RAM and 256MB of swap!!!
[12:55] <odin_> hey, how can you search for radio stations to add to RhythmBox?
[12:55] <polpak> feugan3333, can you pastebin your /etc/fstab ?
[12:55] <seraphim> odin_: streamtuner
[12:56] <odin_> seraphim: thanks
[12:56] <jvai> for ppl w/ older notebooks - look on ebay for orinoco wifi cards/prism chipsets, they can b had for like.. 2 for $30.
[12:56] <Jowi> deadlycow21: you also have https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiTroubleshooting
[12:56] <eternex> E: Package wine has no installation candidate       that what it says when i type "sudo apt-get install wine"
[12:56] <feugan3333> polpak: I added the drive after the ubuntu install, so there is nothing about that drive in fstab.
[12:56] <ompaul> bliss1_, ask Seveas tomorrow about that - that is strange
[12:57] <Nebular> ok can anyone tell me what X is refering to when it's looking for default font 'fixed'?
[12:57] <bliss1_> ompaul: ok will do will he answer
[12:57] <Stork> how can i stop the startup sound in ubunt?
[12:57] <Stork> if i hear that sound one more time the fucking speakers are going out the window
[12:58] <iceman> and i wish UBUNTU had more sound events
[12:58] <mlehrer> it could use some themes
[12:58] <ompaul> bliss1_, do this for me paste the output of "free" in paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:58] <eternex> you can only install wine on 32bit ubuntu?
[12:58] <Stork> anyone?
[12:58] <polpak> feugan3333, well what does dmesg list the device name as?
[12:59] <Jowi> Nebular: could be package xfonts-base
[12:59] <Stork> how can i stop the startup sound in ubunt?
[12:59] <P__> same with vesa
[12:59] <P__> Starting gnome display manager -> fail
[12:59] <feugan3333> polpak: hdc
[01:00] <menadmin> is anyone here?
[01:00] <Jowi> menadmin: "1 ops, 667 total"
[01:00] <arrick> morning guys
[01:00] <arrick> afternoon anyways
[01:00] <richard__> why does the gnome desktop continue to run after i have xfce installed and am logged in under it
[01:00] <Jowi> god-night arrick  :)
[01:00] <richard__> like
[01:01] <richard__> i boot up in xfce and the gnome desktop runs
[01:01] <P__> any hint to make that work ?
[01:01] <richard__> and i have to manually run xfdesktop
[01:01] <richard__> every time i login
[01:01] <arrick> you gotta set it wo the gdm starts first
[01:01] <richard__> how
[01:01] <feugan3333> polpak, while looking at dmesg I noticed the following: dma_intr: error=0x84 { DriveStatusError BadCRC }
[01:01] <arrick> you can choose xfce through session during login
[01:01] <richard__> i do that
[01:01] <arrick> !enter
[01:01] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[01:02] <bliss1_> ompaul: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11549
[01:02] <bliss1_> arrick hi
[01:02] <Stork> how can i stop the startup sound in ubunt?
[01:02] <Stork> how can i stop the startup sound in ubunt?
[01:02] <arrick> hi bliss1_
[01:02] <richard__> and when it boots up in xfce the gnome desktop runs but like i still get xfce panels n such i just have to run xfdesktop if i want the desktop right click menu for xfce
[01:02] <ompaul> bliss1_, what is telling you that you have partitions
[01:02] <crimsun_> Stork: please explain
[01:02] <ompaul> bliss1_, what is telling you that you have swap?
[01:03] <Morgan> hi, i have some problems with my monitor since installing ubuntu, if anyone can help
[01:03] <AngryElf> i'm trying to install NVIDIAs new driver, and I get "no precompiled kernel interface was found".......i'mnot sure what this means, what do i need to install to avoid this?
[01:03] <Stork> crimsun_, you know that hideous noise it makes when you log on?
[01:03] <Jowi> Stork: have a glance at the sound preferences for gnome, or gdmsetup
[01:03] <richard__> sudo apt-get install linux-images-386 linux-header-386
[01:03] <crimsun_> Stork: "hideous?"
[01:03] <feugan3333> Stork: Try System->Preferences->Sound
[01:04] <feugan3333> Stork: Well thats for dapper anyways
[01:04] <Stork> crimsun_, i'm sorry, did i stutter?
[01:04] <crimsun_> Stork: I was asking for clarification.
[01:04] <swim> hey folks, after an update, and a reboot, I suddenly have no sound
[01:04] <pinkmermaid> How can I change the resolution of my login screen? It's gotten screwed up after I installed the ATI drivers.
[01:04] <crimsun_> swim: breezy or dapper?
[01:05] <swim> crimsun_:  dapper
[01:05] <crimsun_> swim: uname -r
[01:05] <crimsun_> swim: and migrate to #ubuntu+1
[01:05] <Morgan> since I installed ubuntu, and restarted the PC, the monitor is black and displays "out of range"
[01:05] <swim> crimsun_: ok
[01:05] <Morgan> i dont know what to do
[01:05] <eternex> ok so i installed cedega timedemo and it said it uncompessed it but where did it uncompress too?
[01:05] <polpak> Morgan, ctrl-alt-f1, and log in
[01:05] <Morgan> i tried that polpak
[01:06] <Morgan> just remains the same, cant seem to get into anything
[01:06] <bliss1_> ompual just a sec
[01:06] <Jowi> !tell pinkmermaid about resolution
[01:07] <iceman> games for Ubuntu .. any think like runescape .... ?
[01:07] <Morgan> anyone have any idea what I can do?  I've even tried plugging the monitor into my laptop with windows, and the problem remains the same
[01:07] <richard__> how do i get better sound, when i run wine and say .. skype i get choppy sound through skype
[01:07] <richard__> i have software mixing enabled
[01:07] <richard__> and am using alsa
[01:07] <ompaul> Morgan, does it have a prompt there that says login?
[01:07] <richard__> OSS for wine with the alsa-oss wrapper
[01:08] <Morgan> no
[01:08] <crimsun_> wine has an alsa output.
[01:08] <Morgan> its just completely black with the "out of range" message
[01:08] <richard__> yes but it isnt as great
[01:08] <richard__> and they suggested it in winehq
[01:08] <mlehrer> Morgan: is there a failsafe boot option you can use
[01:08] <Jowi> Morgan: can you at least see the auto-detection for the harddisk and memory when you first turn the computer on?
[01:08] <crimsun_> richard__: aoss is definitely not an optimal choice
[01:08] <Morgan> nah nothing at all
[01:08] <theripper> anyone here running bon echo on breezy?
[01:09] <richard__> wut would u suggest for the best sound performance
[01:09] <Morgan> the soon as I boot the message comes up
[01:09] <richard__> with wine and native
[01:09] <iceman> there anything for linux like runescape ... or d2
[01:09] <ompaul> Morgan please use my name at the font of the line of text your sending me, it means I know who is talking to me :) ehh try to hit ctrl-alt-f1 (is this the box you are on at the moment)?
[01:09] <AngryElf> how do i change the "CC environment variable"?
[01:09] <Jowi> Morgan: can you see any messages at all *before* you boot into any OS?
[01:10] <Morgan> ompaul: i'm on my laptop atm, i tried ctrl-alt-f1, nothing came up
[01:10] <richard__> crimsun_: what would u suggest for best sound performance, with wine and native
[01:10] <Morgan> Jowi:  No messages at all, just the black screen with the error message
[01:11] <ompaul> Morgan, hmmm
[01:11] <ompaul> Morgan, did it ever work?
[01:11] <P__> ok i have only unknow devices, i think i m good to compile a more recent kernel, if there is something more recent..
[01:11] <Jowi> Morgan: well, if you don't even see the BIOS initialisation then I would definetley think that the monitor need some repair.
[01:11] <ompaul> Jowi, na, not in this day and age
[01:11] <PuMpErNiCkLe> AngryElf: declare $CC=newvariable but there's a way to pass that to configure scripts without changing it globally
[01:11] <crimsun_> richard__: just use wine's oss output without dmix, then.
[01:12] <richard__> crimsun_: wut do u use?
[01:12] <bliss1_> ompaul; today I tried to run qemu with 512mb on guest it failed here is dmesg whch tells me I  have 512MB of RAM and 256MB of swap   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11552
[01:12] <Morgan> ompaul:  It was fine when I first installed ubuntu last night, I have a dual boot with windows, and I was running Ubuntu fine, I even restarted the PC a few times after updates, but this morning when I booted up the PC, I started having the problem
[01:13] <crimsun_> richard__: I don't use wine, so I don't experience that issue. I have an onboard sound device (using intel8x0) and a usb sound device (using usb-audio).
[01:13] <AngryElf> this is NVIDIAs silly install script ,i doubt it has that option......an error told me i need to change the environment variable
[01:13] <ompaul> bliss1_,  [4309235.823000]  Total swap = 0kB
[01:13] <PuMpErNiCkLe> AngryElf: Do you have gcc installed?
[01:13] <ompaul> Morgan, sorry are you using 5.10 or dapper?
[01:14] <Morgan> ompaul:  I'm not entirely sure, it was the latest version available for download the other day
[01:14] <ompaul> Morgan, okay that is unstable software
[01:14] <polpak> Morgan, you can look at the /etc/issue file
[01:14] <polpak> Morgan, it will tell you what version
[01:14] <josh2003> hey, quick question. i just installed ubuntu again on my comp... (as a virtual under winblows) can i copy my profilerc off my ubuntu drive to my vm ubuntu and all my settings and stuff will be loaded? (assuming i actually have the themes and stuff of that nature)
[01:14] <AngryElf> PuMpErNiCkLe, yes, but it says it needs gcc3.4 instead of 4.0 in order to compile the module
[01:15] <wastrel> my epson stylus printer is refusing to print black even though i have black ink and the nozzles aren't clogged - could it be a driver issue?  where do i look for this?
[01:15] <ompaul> Morgan, the breezy badger 5.10 release is current stable
[01:15] <polpak> Morgan, of you can go to System->Help
[01:15] <polpak> Morgan, and that will also tell you the version
[01:15] <ompaul> polpak, Morgan has no gui at all no video at all at all
[01:15] <polpak> ompaul, ah.. then that'd make it difficult =\
[01:16] <AngryElf> PuMpErNiCkLe, when i type declare by itself i see no CC= option in there, nor do i see any mention of gcc.......should i still do that command you mentioned?
[01:16] <ompaul> Morgan, okay this is messy, its after midnight here I will do a quick search for something for you
[01:16] <Morgan> ompaul:  Thanks alot for your help and patience
[01:16] <PuMpErNiCkLe> AngryElf: ah... hang on a sec
[01:16] <AngryElf> locate .bash_profile
[01:17] <AngryElf> errr, oops
[01:17] <arrick> hey guys, I want to edit the authorized users on my ubuntu/apache /var/www/ folder, can someone walk me through it?
[01:17] <arrick> IdleOne, you here?
[01:17] <ChrisLSD> hey guys... how do I change which services are booted?
[01:18] <ChrisLSD> in the command line ;-)
[01:18] <osotogari> hey all. I'm looking for some help with Ubuntu Breezy Badger and detecting/setting up my soundcard
[01:18] <ompaul> Morgan, just for pig iron try this CTRL+ALT++ as in CTRL ALT + a few times and see if anything worth while happens
[01:18] <Morgan> ompaul:  give me a sec, till I plug the keyboard back into the PC
[01:19] <P__> will I have more luck if I try to install the lastest (unstable) version?
[01:19] <arrick> heelllp mee im going down the tubbbeeee
[01:19] <killerbeesateme> I needed help with an NIS authentication issue.  As root I can su into any NIS account, but su doesn't work from a normal user account or from the GDM
[01:20] <PuMpErNiCkLe> AngryElf: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=58424 seems like a good reference... main point in there is the command 'export CC=gcc-3.4'
[01:20] <got2b3d> how do I ensure gcc-3.4 is in my 'PATH' to install nvidia drivers?
[01:20] <Dre> hello. I have been using windows and just windows. I would like to know if ubuntu is suitable for a newbie like me to learn the ropes of making a webserver, nameserver and other hosting services. In need of help thank you..
[01:20] <ompaul> P__, depends on what functions are not there, what are they?
[01:21] <osotogari> anyone willing to give me a hand with my soundcard issue?
[01:21] <Tim> Hello, I am looking at dual boot and was wondering in ubuntu is there PPoE?
[01:21] <Morgan> ompaul:  ctrl alt + never registered anyth5ng =
[01:21] <arrick> hey guys, I want to edit the authorized users on my ubuntu/apache /var/www/ folder, can someone walk me through it?
[01:21] <P__> ompaul, my devices aren't detected correctly, they apear as unknow, so no network, and i can only startx in 1024*768 (i should be able to use it in 1440*900)
[01:21] <arrick> !users
[01:21] <ubotu> arrick: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:22] <arrick> !setusers
[01:22] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, arrick
[01:22] <P__> the main problem first is network, the second is i need my geforce to be installed correctly since im doing some 3D
[01:22] <polpak> P__, did you install the nvidia drivers?
[01:22] <arrick> !addusers
[01:22] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, arrick
[01:22] <P__> but nothing is detected btw, no sound, nothing
[01:22] <arrick> !adduser
[01:22] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, arrick
[01:22] <ompaul> !tell P__ about resolution
[01:22] <ompaul> P__ read message from bot
[01:22] <P__> polpak, i didn't, i should but first i need network
[01:22] <ompaul> P__ audio is not for now one at a time
[01:22] <polpak> ompaul, I think the real problem with his res is that he doesn't have the proper nvidia drivers.. He's using the vesa ones
[01:22] <arrick> ompaul, you know what the addy is for the user setup stuff/
[01:22] <arrick> ?
[01:23] <AngryElf> PuMpErNiCkLe, thax
[01:23] <polpak> P__, ok, well what network card is it?
[01:23] <rdt21> Is there a separate #ubuntu channel for newbies?
[01:23] <polpak> rdt21, this is it
[01:23] <rdt21> polpak: Thanks.
[01:23] <Morgan> brb
[01:23] <Tim> Hi, Does Ubuntu have PPPoE?
[01:23] <got2b3d> directions say $CC=gcc-3.4, export CC  but bash doesn't recognize 'CC'
[01:23] <ompaul> arrick, I have no idea why you are asking me, and the answer is I don't understand the question, please rephrase it and put it to the channel
[01:23] <polpak> !tell tim about pppoe
[01:23] <crimsun_> got2b3d: export CC=gcc-3.4
[01:23] <ompaul> polpak, so !nvidia and on from there
[01:23] <P__> PCI:2:0:0 Ehternet Controller : Intel corp.: Unknow device 109a
[01:24] <ompaul> polpak, I am going to hit the bed in a min
[01:24] <polpak> ompaul, yeah, but he needs the network drivers first =)
[01:24] <theripper> where can i get libstdc++.so.5for ubuntu?
[01:24] <P__> wait, looking for the model
[01:24] <Tim> Thanks Guys!
[01:24] <got2b3d> thankyou crimsun_
[01:24] <polpak> ompaul, get some sleep =)
[01:24] <ompaul> polpak, if morgan comes back perhaps a reinstall is my suggestion
[01:24] <ompaul> :)
[01:24] <polpak> ompaul, yeah, sounds about right to me
[01:24] <bliss1_> ompaul: ok I am lost I have 768 of RAM allocated 512 to qemu but it killed the install thats all I understand
[01:24] <ompaul> polpak, of 5.10
[01:25] <ompaul> bliss1_, okay the 512 to qemu is it is looking for some real disk I imagine
[01:25] <P__> polpak, well i don't really know aobut the model, the laptop is a toshiba P100-114
[01:25] <arrick> I am trying to add a user other than SUDO to be able to make changes to my /var/www/ folder so i can log in with winSCP and be able to paste into it, like ftp, instead of having to paste to home irectory and then move the files with command.
[01:25] <Jowi> ompaul, polpak. correct me if i misunderstood. but didn't he say he see nothing, not even the Power On Self Test?
[01:25] <polpak> P__, try to pastebin the output of lspci
[01:25] <P__> PCI:2:0:0 Ehternet Controller : Intel corp.: Unknow device 109a
[01:25] <eternex> were would cedega install at?
[01:26] <P__> polpak, the whole output ?
[01:26] <polpak> P__, to pastebin
[01:26] <ompaul> bliss1_, let me share a little secret with you --------- qemu is not very nice - but not having even 1/2 a gig of swap is not a great idea
[01:26] <P__> polpak, I pasted the line concerning the network card above
[01:26] <polpak> !tell P__ about pastebin
[01:26] <osotogari> how would I search for my soundcard? lspci?
[01:26] <P__> yeah i know, but i don't want to tyep the whole lspci, would take ages
[01:26] <polpak> osotogari, yep
[01:26] <ompaul> Jowi, if it goes out of range it is a video card talking beyond the monitors ability
[01:26] <polpak> P__, can't you just copy->paste?
[01:26] <osotogari> Thanks polpak, I'll give that a try
[01:27] <polpak> P__, oh
[01:27] <ompaul> Jowi, there are things you can do but you have to see the thing in front of you and play with its settings at times
[01:27] <P__> polpak, i got no network
[01:27] <polpak> P__, no network on that box =0
[01:27] <Morgan> lol, my laptop keyboard is broke now too :(
[01:27] <polpak> P__, sorry, little slow tonight
[01:27] <bliss1_> ompual I sent two patebins which were clear or not did you understand all the desmg print out  OK lets just bring this to a close for today  I will try and work something out
[01:27] <Jowi> ompaul: yeah, or a faulty vga-connector. it was my impression that he didnt see grub boot menu or nothing.
[01:28] <mwe> arrick: change group recursively of /var/www and allow that group write permission. then add the user to that group
[01:28] <osotogari> lspci returns this line: 0000:00:0b.0 Multimedia audio controller: C-Media Electronics Inc CM8738 (rev 10 )
[01:28] <osotogari>  - would this be my soundcard being detected?
[01:28] <P__> polpak, the line I pasted isn't enough ? i have another one but i think it's the wifi : PCI:3:0:0 Network Controller: Intel Corp.: Unknow device 4222
[01:28] <arrick> mwe, how do I do this through ssh?
[01:28] <arrick> command
[01:28] <mwe> arrick: you need to log in as a user that is allowed to sudo
[01:28] <arrick> ok
[01:28] <arrick> I am
[01:29] <arrick> what next?
[01:29] <mwe> arrick: what should the group be. admin maybe
[01:29] <ChrisLSD> how can I disable powenowd from starting up?
[01:29] <mwe> arrick: sudo chgrp -R admin /var/www
[01:29] <polpak> ChrisLSD, remove the symlink for it in /etc/rc2.d
[01:30] <mwe> arrick: then sudo chmod -R g+w /var/www should work
[01:30] <arrick> ok
[01:30] <polpak> osotogari, yeah, that looks right
[01:30] <ChrisLSD> cool cool
[01:30] <mwe> arrick: I guess you're in the admin group already
[01:30] <Jowi> ChrisLSD: either remove the link from rc2.d or sudo apt-get remove powernowd
[01:30] <arrick> yeah
[01:30] <firemaker103> Can anyone tell me how to login as root?
[01:30] <mwe> arrick: then you should be good after those commands
[01:30] <odin_> I don't think you can
[01:30] <polpak> firemaker103, ideally you don't
[01:30] <polpak> !tell firemaker103 about root
[01:31] <arrick> ok let me check rigth quick
[01:31] <ChrisLSD> also is there a way to keep the sound system from loading?
[01:31] <polpak> P__, Hrm
[01:31] <arrick> were good thanks mwe
[01:31] <mwe> arrick: yw
[01:31] <polpak> P__, what laptop did you say you had?
[01:31] <ChrisLSD> would that also be in rc2.d?
[01:31] <crimsun_> ChrisLSD: which sound system?
[01:31] <ChrisLSD> I'm trying to figure out why Ubuntu keeps crashing at the login screen
[01:31] <P__> polpak, Toshiba P100-114
[01:31] <riddlebox> ok, I logged into my laptop and my j,o,p all worked fine, but when I type after it logs in, my j=1, o=6 p=7?
[01:32] <osotogari> @ polpak: ok, but when i run a volume monitor/control I am told that "No volume control elements or devices are found"
[01:32] <polpak> P__, one option would be to try the dapper live CD and see if that works.. If it does then it might be easier to bear with dapper's growning pains for the next month or so
[01:32] <firemaker103> Well, how about being able to have root privledges?
[01:32] <UbuntuNewbie> hello again
[01:32] <polpak> firemaker103, read the link ubotu sent you
[01:32] <firemaker103> ah
[01:34] <odin_> is Kino pretty good at video editing?
[01:34] <polpak> odin_, my friend seems to like it well enough
[01:34] <polpak> odin_, I've not tried it yet myself
[01:34] <arrick> later guys
[01:34] <bmcfee> i'm running dapper on a dell latitude (p-m 1.6G, video card is an ati mobility m9).  i'm using the fglrx packages, and xorg/gnome is incredibly slow (fgl_glxgears gives 140fps).  i've read through pretty much every thread on the subject on ubuntuforums, and nobody seems to have any real clue there.  help?
[01:35] <polpak> !tell bmcfee about dapper
[01:35] <bmcfee> polpak: it happens on stable dists as well
[01:35] <polpak> bmcfee, glxinfo | grep direct
[01:35] <findik1> I have question
[01:35] <polpak> !justask
[01:35] <ubotu> Ask your question and we'll try to answer it.
[01:36] <bmcfee> polpak: direct rendering: Yes
[01:36] <polpak> bmcfee, then it seems like it's just bad drivers.. Not much else I can suggest
[01:36] <findik1> I am new to linux and loved ubuntu, install on my laptop worked well, today i just got new dell e510 and i cannot install from cd
[01:37] <polpak> findik1, what error are you getting?
[01:37] <bmcfee> polpak: well, i don't even care about GL stuff, but 2d is almost unusable, even though the cpu usage is fairly low
[01:37] <osotogari> check your BIOS if boot from CD is enabled
[01:37] <bmcfee> ati and radeon drivers suck about equally
[01:37] <odin_> but not nvidia drivers apparently
[01:38] <bmcfee> i've disabled nautilus drawing the desktop and turned off as much eyecandy as possible, and it doesn't improve things that much
[01:38] <findik1> in the installation section it says tere is no cd drivers
[01:38] <polpak> findik1, what kind of cdrom drive do you have?
[01:38] <bmcfee> odin_: no, my desktop has an nvidia card and it works great.  not really an option to switch video cards on a laptop though
[01:38] <odin_> bmcfee:  that's what I'm saying, they don't suck
[01:39] <bmcfee> odin_: yes, but we already knew that. :)
[01:39] <odin_> bmcfree:  yes, I was stating the obvious :) *shakes fist in power*
[01:40] <findik1> it is actually dvdrom drive
[01:40] <bmcfee> hm.  maybe it's an agp conflict with the kernel drivers.  anyone know a quick way to disable kernel agp on boot?
[01:40] <polpak> bmcfee, wait.. you said you are using the fglrx driver?
[01:40] <findik1> the exact errror: there was a problem reading data from the cd":
[01:41] <bmcfee> polpak: yes.  it does better than ati or radeon, but still bad
[01:41] <scorchsaber> uhm... i think the AGP driver's are dictated in a file somewhere...shoot, I was just messing around with them a few weeks ago...
[01:41] <polpak> bmcfee, cause I'm pretty sure that only works with radeon cards
[01:41] <bmcfee> polpak: erm, mobility m9 is a radeon card?
[01:42] <polpak> bmcfee, The model of the card is in the 9xxx series, 9500 or higher, or it is in the X series (e.g. X300), or it has TV-Out capability.
[01:42] <osotogari> what exactly does the "esd" command do?
[01:42] <polpak> osotogari, that's the E sound daemon
[01:43] <bmcfee> polpak: in the Xorg.0.log, the driver lists M9 as a supported card
[01:43] <scorchsaber> dude
[01:43] <scorchsaber> osoto gari is judo
[01:43] <scorchsaber> crazi, man
[01:43] <scorchsaber> crazy--
[01:43] <bmcfee> polpak: technically it's mobility radeon 9000
[01:43] <osotogari> it is scorch
[01:43] <scorchsaber> And I just learned it last saturday
[01:43] <scorchsaber> I love osotogari
[01:44] <scorchsaber> push and trip
[01:44] <polpak> !offtopic
[01:44] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[01:44] <scorchsaber> Bah. Damn bot annoys me
[01:45] <osotogari> ontopic again,  when i run esd i get the following message - "ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:802:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave"
[01:45] <MisterN> n8
[01:45] <osotogari> can anyone tell me about this? Im pretty much a newbie
[01:45] <polpak> bmcfee, well the only thing else I can suggest is to try to get the latest drivers from ATI
[01:45] <bmcfee> polpak: done that, no luck.  i've been hammering at this on and off for the last few months :\
[01:46] <bmcfee> is there an easy way to tell the kernel not to load the agp module on boot?
[01:46] <skully> hey
[01:46] <skully> I need alot of help
[01:46] <skully> >_>
[01:46] <polpak> !justask
[01:46] <ubotu> Ask your question and we'll try to answer it.
[01:47] <skully> how can I get your version of linux to run with windows so when I start my comp I can choose which one I want to use everytime I start up
[01:47] <mwe> !helpme
[01:47] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[01:47] <findik1> polpak: do you have any idea about the problem?
[01:47] <skully> I have two harddrives if that helps
[01:47] <polpak> skully, I believe that's the default behavior
[01:47] <polpak> !tell skully about dualboot
[01:48] <polpak> findik1, what was the problem?
[01:48] <findik1> from cd it does not install this new dell E510
[01:49] <osotogari> You might have a bad CD findikl, try to download again and burn a new bootable cd
[01:49] <nick|here> can breezy packages installed on dapper?
[01:49] <crimsun_> nick|here: generally a bad idea.
[01:49] <Jowi> findik1: Did you make sure that the CD boot option is set in BIOS?
[01:49] <findik1> actually from windows I can see everthing, with this cd I did 2 installation
[01:49] <crimsun_> nick|here: just use the dapper version.
[01:50] <NsOmNiAc> !ubotu w32codecs
[01:50] <ubotu> w32codecs is probably a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[01:50] <findik1> jowi: you mean I made cd boot first? yes
[01:50] <ryan_> !restricted fomats
[01:50] <ubotu> ryan_: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:50] <polpak> findik1, what's the error message it gives again?
[01:50] <polpak> !restricted
[01:50] <ubotu> hmm... restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[01:51] <PwcrLinux> Hello
[01:51] <findik1> polpak: from load installer: "there was an problem reading data from cd
[01:51] <wastrel> printer won't print black - how do i fix?
[01:52] <skully> im trying linux in a min
[01:52] <PwcrLinux> anyone who use Totem player?
[01:52] <polpak> findik1, sounds like either a scratch, or a fingerprint smudge or something
[01:52] <skully> I may be back
[01:52] <skully> thanks
[01:52] <Jowi> yeah PwcrLinux
[01:52] <polpak> PwcrLinux, yes..
[01:52] <odin_> does DVD playback capability come standard with Breezy Badger, or is there another program besides libdvdcss2?
[01:53] <findik1> polpak , let me try on another computer and be back
[01:53] <Jowi> polpak: is there a way to verify that a ubuntu-install CD is correct?
[01:53] <polpak> !tell odin_ about restricted
[01:53] <bmcfee> is hotplug deprecated or something?
[01:53] <polpak> odin_, it's in the wiki
[01:53] <PwcrLinux> Okay, I put my DVD movie, and the error displayed of   Error invoking "dvdnav_get_next_block": Error reading from DVD.
[01:53] <odin_> much obliged
[01:54] <polpak> PwcrLinux, you used the wiki to install the appropriate packages?
[01:54] <sean_2> !   I have an install problem  ~  I get all the way up to when it should load the partition editor, then i get a blank screen where i can enter text. Anyone have any suggestions on where i should turn for help
[01:54] <osotogari> hmmm, this soundcard issue is really annoying. I might have to go buy a new one
[01:54] <ubotu> I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, sean_2
[01:54] <PwcrLinux> Pol: not yet
[01:54] <crimsun_> osotogari: which issue(s)?
[01:54] <sean_2> I have an install problem ~ I get all the way up to when it should load the partition editor, then i get a blank screen where i can enter text. Anyone have any suggestions on where i should turn for help
[01:55] <polpak> tell PwcrLinux about restricted
[01:55] <polpak> !tell PwcrLinux about restricted!
[01:55] <polpak> !tell PwcrLinux about restricted
[01:55] <polpak> lol
[01:55] <osotogari> my sound card aint being dected
[01:55] <crimsun_> osotogari: 5.10/breezy?
[01:55] <IdleOne> !tell sean_2 about patience
[01:55] <osotogari> well lspci returns this line: 0000:00:0b.0 Multimedia audio controller: C-Media Electronics Inc CM8738 (rev 10 )
[01:55] <osotogari> 5.10
[01:55] <polpak> osotogari, it looks like it is
[01:56] <polpak> osotogari, otherwise it'd say unknown device
[01:56] <osotogari>  but when i run a volume monitor/control I am told that "No volume control elements or devices are found"
[01:56] <crimsun_> osotogari: lsmod|grep ^snd_cmipci
[01:56] <osotogari> snd_cmipci             30368  0
[01:57] <crimsun_> osotogari: looks ok there. Please pastebin: ``cat /proc/asound/cards && amixer -c0''
[01:57] <crimsun_> !pastebin
[01:57] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[01:58] <osotogari> --- no soundcards ---
[01:58] <osotogari> amixer: Mixer attach hw:0 error: No such file or directory
[01:58] <PwcrLinux> polpak: Yea, okay which one I would need to get it?
[01:59] <polpak> PwcrLinux, there's instructions on how to do DVD playback on that wiki
[01:59] <killerbeesateme> can anyone help with a NIS issue?
[01:59] <polpak> !anyone
[01:59] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[02:00] <cva_> using gnome, is there a way to adjust the mouse scroll wheel rate? the mouse preference doesn't have an option for it.
[02:01] <Lazzy_pengy> Anyone home?
[02:02] <nixed0> Killerbeesateme: whats the problem with NIS?
[02:02] <ubuntu872> can somone help me out with proftpd?
[02:02] <ubuntu872> i want to make a password for my ftp
[02:02] <NsOmNiAc> !ubotu Dapper upgrade
[02:02] <ubotu> NsOmNiAc: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:02] <polpak> !upgrade
[02:02] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade.  Upgrading to dapper (remember it may break). Please test the dist-upgrader -> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html.
[02:02] <Cooner750> How do I get Java in FF 1.5 to work?
[02:02] <sean_2> I have an install problem. When I try to install Ubuntu I get all the way up to the part where it should edit my partition then I just get a blank screen where I can enter text, any suggestions?
[02:03] <Jowi> !tell Cooner750 about java
[02:03] <ubuntu872> how do i set a password for my ftp?
[02:03] <PwcrLinux> polpak: I am on the wiki restricted site, which paragraph I would need to look at it?
[02:03] <Xenguy> ubuntu872: I don't know proftpd, but I hear vsftpd is easier to configure, and it is more lightweight
[02:03] <no0tic> hi, how can I tell the kernel not to load a module at boot?
[02:04] <Jowi> !info linux-source
[02:04] <polpak> PwcrLinux, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-cd84b8e23927ccdb4bb55ffd3074687abec0cf3b
[02:04] <wastrel> no0tic:  add it to /etc/modules.d/blacklist
[02:04] <ubuntu872> xenguy i have it up and running proftpd i wouldnt want to switch
[02:04] <wastrel> no0tic:  er modprobe.d
[02:04] <Lazzy_pengy> !info linux-source
[02:04] <no0tic> wastrel, ok
[02:04] <Xenguy> ubuntu872: nod
[02:04] <kevin_> exit
[02:05] <devnull_> in gnome my menu keeps flickering and has no folders in it
[02:05] <Ven] n^> hi guys
[02:05] <ubuntu872> xenguy would you help me out with vsftp?
[02:05] <Ven] n^> does that "alien" command to install .rpm work good?
[02:05] <devnull_> is this a normal problem?
[02:05] <nixed0> killerbeesateme: still there?
[02:05] <polpak> Ven] n^, sometiems yes, sometimes no. What software are you needing to install that doesn't have a deb?
[02:05] <Ven] n^> cmatrix
[02:05] <Ven] n^> :p
[02:05] <Ven] n^> it might have it
[02:05] <Ven] n^> havent checked
[02:05] <Ven] n^> hehe
[02:06] <Jowi> Lazzy_pengy: sorry, forgot that i'm on dapper. "linux-source" seem to have another name in breezy.
[02:06] <Xenguy> ubuntu872: I have a document that outlines everything (anonymous, login, etc.); I can offer you that (I have deadlines tonight, so not much time) if you are interested
[02:06] <Ven] n^> apt-get found it
[02:06] <Xenguy> !enter
[02:06] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[02:06] <Ven] n^> but i was just wondering
[02:06] <ubuntu872> xenguy do you have a aim, yahoo or msn sn?
[02:06] <PwcrLinux> polpak: "Playing DVD" paragraph with "DVD Lock up"? should I use both?
[02:06] <Lazzy_pengy> That's alright
[02:07] <polpak> PwcrLinux, no, just the first one.. Unless it actually does lock up
[02:07] <Ven] n^> Xenguy, was that for me? :) .. sry , hehe
[02:07] <got2b3d> how do I ensure I have the write kernels installed for an nvidia installation?
[02:07] <got2b3d> *right
[02:07] <UbuntuNewbie> can someone help me regarding ethernet card ?
[02:07] <PwcrLinux> pol: oh the CCS..
[02:07] <Xenguy> ubuntu872: I can DCC it, or I can otherwise make it available to you.  Do you know DCC via IRC?
[02:07] <Xenguy> Ven] n^: nope
[02:08] <ubuntu> Hi, im trying to install Ubuntu 5.10 and it just freeze on 32%. the whole computer locks up. could anyone help?
[02:08] <ubuntu872> no i dont know what that is
[02:08] <Xenguy> ubuntu872: what is your IRC client?
[02:08] <ubuntu872> x-chat
[02:08] <PwcrLinux> pol oh the CCS..
[02:08] <Xenguy> ubuntu872: OK, give me a minute to find this doc - sec...
[02:08] <PwcrLinux> polpak:  oh the CCS..
[02:09] <Jowi> ubuntu: does it lock up without you doing anything at all (for example, start the computer and leave it running)?
[02:09] <polpak> PwcrLinux, indeed
[02:09] <killerbeesateme> nixed0, i am still here.  sorry i was trying to get this resolved in another room
[02:09] <killerbeesateme> i still haven't resolved the issue if you want to take a crack at it, nixed0
[02:09] <Jowi> ubuntu: sorry, i didn't read your question properly. you are installing Ubuntu.
[02:09] <PwcrLinux> polpak: okay, I'm gonna try it now
[02:10] <wastrel> what's CCS
[02:10] <arrick> hey mwe, I wanted to write those commands you gave me earlier for future reference, can you give them to ma agiain?
[02:10] <arrick> the ones about changein permissions of the /var/www?
[02:10] <ubuntu> while installing it, it says copying core files and just freezes on 32% ive tried all setup options and resizing volumes and still freezes everytime. im using the live version at the moment but i need to install it.
[02:10] <devnull_> i keep getting devfs issues on boot but i am pretty certain i have to write configuration in the kernel for it
[02:11] <_jason> ubuntu: did you burn this disk or is it a pressed cd?
[02:11] <killerbeesateme> I'm having a very odd NIS issue if anyone can try to help.
[02:11] <ubuntu> pressed cd free from the shop
[02:11] <_jason> ubuntu: have you tried a different cd?  sometimes they are messed up...
[02:11] <nixed0> killerbeesateme: whats the problem?
[02:12] <TruckerMan> Can Synaptic update off the web?
[02:12] <Xenguy> ubuntu872: Do you see a file incoming in your xchat?
[02:12] <ubuntu> no, but ill get one tommorow and try it. thanks for you help
[02:12] <FlannelKing> TruckerMan: yeah, that's the largest use of synaptic
[02:12] <arrick> _jason good morning
[02:12] <arrick> you get some sleep?
[02:12] <killerbeesateme> well nixed0, I can't log in as any of my NIS users, but if I am root, i can su into them
[02:12] <ubuntu872> yes thanks xenguy
[02:12] <cafuego> what?
[02:12] <_jason> arrick: hello.  nope
[02:12] <ubuntu872> xenguy what is this for?
[02:12] <Xenguy> ubuntu872: tell me when you have accepted it, and successfully retrieved it
[02:12] <nixed0> killerbeesateme: did you update /etc/nsswitch.conf?
[02:13] <arrick> ouch
[02:13] <Xenguy> ubuntu872: it is a PDF file for configuring vsftpd, as discussed
[02:13] <killerbeesateme> nixed0: yes i did.  at least i think i did it properly
[02:13] <IdleOne> evening folks
[02:13] <arrick> r ur eye drooping _jason
[02:13] <arrick> IdleOne, hi
[02:13] <killerbeesateme> nixed0: should i change compat to nis?
[02:13] <Ven] n^> the gnome terminal, how to change background color and text color?
[02:13] <arrick> IdleOne, join #arrick pwease
[02:13] <Ven] n^> the terminal in gnome i mean
[02:13] <nixed0> killerbeesateme: yeah
[02:13] <PwcrLinux> polpak: the version already in there..
[02:13] <Xenguy> ubuntu872: it looks from here as if you got it OK
[02:13] <nixed0> files nis nisplus, is what I use
[02:13] <ubuntu872> ok i got it and its opened
[02:14] <Xenguy> ubuntu872: have fun
[02:14] <osotogari> thanks for your help guys, ill try and sort this problem out tomorrow.
[02:14] <ubuntu872> well thanks :)
[02:14] <dxdemetriou> hi
[02:14] <ubuntu872> thanks xenguy
[02:14] <Xenguy> ubuntu872: yw
[02:14] <TruckerMan> FlannelKing, how difficult is it?  do i just enable the Universe and/or Multiverse to get that goin?
[02:14] <killerbeesateme> nixed0: passwd, group and shadow?
[02:14] <nixed0> killerbeesateme: they say nisplus isn't used on Linux YP.. but I'm pretty sure it ties into
[02:14] <ubuntu872> xenguy does the commands work the same with ubuntu?
[02:14] <findik1> polpak: I tried live cd version it works on laptop but nor on this new dell e510, so stg related to new hard drive, any idea?
[02:14] <nixed0> killerbeesateme: yes all of them, if your using NIS for passwords
[02:15] <Xenguy> ubuntu872: ignore the installation stuff; the rest should be relevant and good info
[02:15] <dxdemetriou> I have a problem with my laptop. When the X11 starts and I use the combination functions with "fn" key it crach the whole system.
[02:15] <killerbeesateme> nixed0: if i do that to groups, will it cut off my sudo root access?
[02:15] <FlannelKing> TruckerMan: um, well, ubuntu should already be set up to use web repos, if you were connected while installing.
[02:15] <nixed0> killerbeesateme: not if you leave files as the first entry
[02:15] <ubuntu872> ok..
[02:15] <ubuntu872> :)
[02:15] <TruckerMan> FlannelKing, nope
[02:15] <Xenguy> ubuntu872: install with apt-get or synaptic of course
[02:15] <FlannelKing> TruckerMan: universe/multiverse are larger than the base repo online.
[02:15] <PwcrLinux> polpak: u there?
[02:15] <TruckerMan> FlannelKing, had to ndiswrapp my wireless card
[02:16] <_jordan> Can someone help me getting my wireless card to work? It should work automatically, but for some reason it won't be detected. My wireless card is a Dlink DWL-G510
[02:16] <polpak> PwcrLinux, did you run the script?
[02:16] <TruckerMan> so what should i do now?
[02:16] <Xenguy> ubuntu872: hrm, do you actually have the file?
[02:16] <killerbeesateme> nixed0: so as an example, i should do passwd : files nis
[02:16] <killerbeesateme> nixed0: and remove compat all together?
[02:16] <FlannelKing> TruckerMan: I don't know if its setup by default without internet, should just be uncommenting lines in your sources list (you can do it via Synaptic GUI too)
[02:16] <PwcrLinux> polpak: hold
[02:16] <nixed0> killerbeesateme: one sec, to be sure
[02:16] <ubuntu872> xenguy yes i do have the file but to confusing
[02:16] <ubuntu872> ill pass :/
[02:16] <Xenguy> ubuntu872: heh, sure
[02:17] <PwcrLinux> libdvdread3 is already the newest version.
[02:17] <PwcrLinux> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[02:17] <TruckerMan> FlannelKing, uncommenting wich lines?  what do the lines deal with?
[02:17] <ubuntu872> proftpd is my ftp and i just need a login
[02:17] <TruckerMan> i start buggin out whenever it comes to non automatic configuration
[02:17] <Ven] n^> how to change background color and text color in the default gnome terminal ?
[02:17] <NsOmNiAc> !upgrade
[02:17] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade.  Upgrading to dapper (remember it may break). Please test the dist-upgrader -> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html.
[02:18] <Ven] n^> nevermind
[02:18] <nixed0> killerbeesateme: yes, passwd:  files nis
[02:18] <findik1> anybody can celpo on dell E510 PROBLEM???
[02:18] <dxdemetriou> I have a problem with my laptop. When the X11 starts and I use the combination functions with "fn" key it crach the whole system. If X11 is not started all are ok. What I must to do?
[02:18] <polpak> PwcrLinux, the script... sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh
[02:19] <PwcrLinux> polpak: okay hang on
[02:19] <FlannelKing> !sources
[02:19] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[02:19] <killerbeesateme> nixed0: i still can't su into it as a regular user
[02:19] <FlannelKing> woohoo, the lines look just like universe/multiverse except they're ...what, base? and security
[02:19] <FlannelKing> they'll have URLs instead of the CD as a source
[02:20] <nixed0> killerbeesatme: can you do a ypcat passwd?
[02:20] <PwcrLinux> polpak: script work good and now what's next?
[02:20] <saif> hello, i noticed that my cpu frequency, is on max all the time, usually it's 800 and goes up to 2ghz when needed, not it's 2 ghz all the time!! not running any resource hungry stuff, i noticed that in system monitor i ahve 2 zombie processes!
[02:20] <saif> what does that mean??
[02:20] <polpak> PwcrLinux, that's it
[02:20] <TruckerMan> FlannelKing, so thats what i'm looking for is UNI/MULTIVERSE?
[02:20] <killerbeesateme> nixed0: yes i can
[02:20] <PwcrLinux> polpak: let me to play a DVD now
[02:21] <RadSurfer> Ubuntu seems to be installing on a 266mhz system... how sweet.
[02:21] <FlannelKing> no, TruckerMan, uni/multi are EXTRA stuff, not officially supported by ubuntu, there's additional "official" packages that don't come on the CD in the online ubuntu repos
[02:21] <nixed0> killerbeesateme: unknown id: when you try to su?
[02:21] <chris> is DBO here?
[02:21] <TruckerMan> FlannelKing, thats what i want, where are they?
[02:21] <killerbeesateme> no, I get an Authentication failure
[02:22] <dxdemetriou> no one?
[02:22] <chris> i have a problem with proftpd
[02:22] <polpak> RadSurfer, you might want to use the minimal install and then sudo apt-get install xubuntu-dekstop it's less resource intensive
[02:22] <killerbeesateme> nixed0: I get an Authentication failure
[02:22] <chris> how do i create a login for proftpd
[02:22] <FlannelKing> TruckerMan: did you look at that site?
[02:22] <FlannelKing> !sources
[02:22] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[02:22] <FlannelKing> check the sources.list example
[02:22] <TruckerMan> oh, didnt realize that was for me
[02:22] <FlannelKing> and you'll see them
[02:22] <chris> how do i see my log for proftpd
[02:22] <nixed0> killerbeesateme: when you su from root to a user in NIS you get that?
[02:22] <FlannelKing> heh, now you do ;)
[02:23] <RadSurfer> It's going.... having fun watching it try.. on this old legacy machine :-)
[02:23] <killerbeesateme> nixed0: no, when I su from root, it works no problem.  I can't su from a regular user or use the GDM
[02:23] <Jowi> saif: click on edit -> preferences and enable % CPU if you haven't already and click ok. see if any process in the list is taking up an insane amount of CPU
[02:24] <wastrel> ok CUPS is irritating me.  I set my printer to black & white and it's still printing in color?
[02:24] <chris> how do i search for a file in the ternminal?
[02:24] <konfuzed> man it seems like all web pages even simple html ones take for ever to load
[02:24] <konfuzed> is there some network bandwidth tweaks or something
[02:25] <wastrel> how to i configure my printer ?  it's not responding to anything i change in the configuration dialogs.
[02:25] <konfuzed> the initial responsiveness has declined for no apparent reason
[02:25] <saif> Jowi, no processes taking any amount of cpu!  other than the monitor taking 7%
[02:25] <nixed0> killerbeesateme: as root su to a user and run `whoami`
[02:26] <odin_> how can I get it so that I can make new folders in usr?
[02:26] <killerbeesateme> nixed0: it shows the username of the user
[02:26] <odin_> or any file system, for that matter
[02:26] <killerbeesateme> nixed0: it also allows me access to the home directory shared via NFS
[02:26] <mwe> odin_: normal users shouldn't
[02:27] <nixed0> killerbeesateme: did you add  +:::::: in the local /etc/passwd?
[02:27] <blk_ice> i'm sure somebody has asked this several times before but how do i install dvd support in ubuntu, libdvdcss2 isn't available anymore
[02:27] <PwcrLinux> polpak: DVD does not play
[02:27] <mwe> odin_: in linux normal users are not allowed to muck with the system
[02:27] <RadSurfer> Apparently, there are a few defective ubuntu cd's out there :(
[02:27] <odin_> mwe:  but in dvd::rip it's trying to make a new folder and fails
[02:28] <killerbeesateme> nixed0: yes, it is at the end of the file
[02:28] <mwe> odin_: I don't use that. what is it trying to make? maybe you need to run it once with sudo or something
[02:29] <odin_> mwe:  it looks like it's trying to make a folder to hold the movie and audio files after it rips it
[02:29] <PwcrLinux> polpak: u there?
[02:29] <odin_> mwe:  and the path is relative to Perl5 inside of usr
[02:29] <mwe> odin_: yes. it should make that in your homedir. that path is wrong
[02:29] <polpak> PwcrLinux, yeah, what's the error?
[02:29] <mwe> odin_: maybe you can change it
[02:29] <jvai> nixed.. yes it is thru easyubuntu... i'm playing blockbuster dvds since yesterday
[02:30] <mwe> odin_: it shouldn't store ripped files in the perl dir
[02:30] <nixed0> killerbeesateme: out of ideas atm. I'll think about it more.. really not much to NIS
[02:30] <jvai> & now i can play wmv porn.. lol
[02:30] <odin_> mwe:  I can't seem to be able to change it now, whenever I try to open it up it tries to make that folder again and throws an internal exception
[02:30] <jvai> all thru totem
[02:30] <killerbeesateme> nixed0: thanks for trying.  your the second person i've stumped.  Could it be an issue with Suse 10?  That's what is running the NIS server
[02:31] <mwe> odin_: As I said I don't use it, but try running it once with gtksu. then run it as normal user
[02:31] <PwcrLinux> polpak: I put the dvd into drive and ran up fine, then I checked the subtitle and showed EN on it and then I tried to click play and doesn't run it or tried to change "DVD Menu" till it's frozed up in menus as every i click it..
[02:31] <polpak> !tell blk_ice about dvd
[02:31] <mwe> odin_: maybe it needs to setup some thing initially
[02:31] <Jowi> !info cpudyn
[02:31] <ubotu> cpudyn: (CPU dynamic frequency control for processors with scaling), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 1.0-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 23 kB, Installed size: 120 kB
[02:31] <nixed0> killerbeesateme: Suse! lol. It "shouldn't" be.. it sounds like a client configuration problem to me
[02:32] <polpak> blk_ice, hrm.. that factoid is out of data
[02:32] <theripper> woohoo , i installed my first app , damn im good
[02:32] <polpak> blk_ice, date rather
[02:32] <Jowi> !info cpufrequtils
[02:32] <ubotu> cpufrequtils: (utilities to deal with the cpufreq Linux kernel feature), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 0.3-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 19 kB, Installed size: 144 kB
[02:32] <killerbeesateme> nixed0: ok, i followed the wiki page on it and then i got stuck here.
[02:32] <polpak> blk_ice, try the restricted wiki, it has the right info
[02:32] <mwe> odin_: if it tries to store ripped files in the perl dir it's broken though
[02:32] <polpak> !tell blk_ice about restricted
[02:32] <nixed0> killerbeesateme: did you try cringe.. yast? to configure authentication on the client?
[02:32] <odin_> mwe:  so it would seem
[02:32] <polpak> PwcrLinux, try a different dvd
[02:32] <killerbeesateme> nixed0: the client is ubuntu
[02:33] <PwcrLinux> okay
[02:33] <odin_> mwe:  I'm gonna try to move it out of there to my desktop, see if I can change the relative path that way
[02:33] <UbuntuNewbie> can someone please tell me what kind of problems i'm having if my browser page is slow but my updating program is fast
[02:33] <nixed0> killerbeesateme: if you can run ypcat on each of the maps then it probably isnt the server
[02:33] <polpak> UbuntuNewbie, connecting to a sluggish site?
[02:33] <engla> Is there something daemontools-like for ubuntu? I'd like to have something that makes the system think an .iso is a real cd
[02:34] <PwcrLinux> polpak: I use to ejected out via disc icon and menus..
[02:34] <findik1> I may be at wron place ,  where can I ask some basic questions?
[02:34] <UbuntuNewbie> all sites
[02:34] <mwe> engla: mount
[02:34] <_jason> findik1: right here
[02:34] <FlannelKing> UbuntuNewbie: try disabling ipv6
[02:34] <mwe> engla: mount can mount iso files
[02:34] <amphi> UbuntuNewbie: there's a factoid about that, but I forget they key ;)
[02:34] <engla> mwe: doesn't work in this case
[02:34] <TruckerMan> FlannelKing, i looked at that site
[02:34] <mwe> engla: why?
[02:34] <amphi> !faster_firefox
[02:34] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, amphi
[02:34] <_jason> !ipv6
[02:34] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[02:34] <UbuntuNewbie> how do you disable ipv6
[02:34] <polpak> !fastff
[02:34] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, polpak
[02:34] <TruckerMan> how do i get the text into synaptic?
[02:34] <nixed0> killerbeesateme: ie: ypcat passwd, ypcat shadow.byname, ypcat group
[02:34] <_jason> listkeys fast
[02:34] <amphi> polpak: thank you ;)
[02:34] <mwe> engla: the system will think it is as real as any other drive
[02:34] <findik1> jason, i asked before , I have problem with cd installation of ubuntu
[02:34] <engla> mwe: because this installer (proprietary software) doesn't recognize that mount point as a cd
[02:35] <wastrel> why is printer configuration so irritating?  i hate linux :p
[02:35] <amphi> _jason: oh, cool, ubotu has listkeys
[02:35] <polpak> amphi, no, mine was wrong.. it's !ipv6
[02:35] <killerbeesateme> nixed0: i can ypcat passwd and group, what do you mean by the .byname after shadow?
[02:35] <mwe> engla: then use another mount point
[02:35] <_jason> amphi: oh no the secret is out (he has listvals too)
[02:35] <engla> mwe: it can tell it's a loopback device, no?
[02:35] <amphi> wastrel: heh - read what esr has to say about it
[02:35] <FlannelKing> TruckerMan: either edit your sources list, or just use the GUI interface in synaptic, to add more repositories. (and actually, you should just be able to enable the disabled repositories already in there)
[02:35] <amphi> _jason: uhuh
[02:35] <engla> mwe: I think it's looking for /dev/hdc, is that always the cd?
[02:35] <TruckerMan> FlannelKing, i dont get it
[02:35] <mwe> engla: no
[02:36] <engla> hmm
[02:36] <pablo_> hi! how do i install ltsp on ubuntu 5.10?
[02:36] <mwe> engla: they made a broken installer
[02:36] <mwe> engla: it seems
[02:36] <RadSurfer> 5.10 is what I'm trying to install.
[02:36] <pablo_> there no much info in lstp home page :(
[02:36] <PwcrLinux> polpak: doesn't work at all, the menu lapping over other menus..
[02:36] <amphi> engla: no - it very often is
[02:36] <TruckerMan> FlannelKing, i'll keep clicking synaptic but i dont know where to enter and how?  cut and paste
[02:36] <TruckerMan> ?
[02:36] <engla> mwe: is it possible in linux to setup mount points so that a non-privileged process can't tell a loopback and real device apart?
[02:36] <FlannelKing> TruckerMan: are you in synaptic?
[02:36] <Steven_M> Is there ISO of a 64-bit Intel kubuntu cd/dvd as opposed to 64-bit AMD?
[02:36] <TruckerMan> yeah
[02:37] <killerbeesateme> nixed0:  i can't ypcat shadow.byname
[02:37] <FlannelKing> TruckerMan: settings > repositories
[02:37] <engla> mwe: perhaps it's broken
[02:37] <TruckerMan> there
[02:37] <FlannelKing> TruckerMan: what do you see in the box?
[02:37] <FlannelKing> just the bold stuff
[02:37] <AngryElf> is this channel logged somewhere?
[02:37] <FlannelKing> and, you can forget the "ubuntu" stuff
[02:37] <mwe> engla: I don't think processes can tell anything about your drive from the mount point, but it could check the mounts I guess
[02:37] <odin_> mwe:  I fixed it in the dvdrip.desktop, changed path to Desktop
[02:37] <_jason> !logs
[02:37] <ubotu> logs are at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/
[02:37] <odin_> should work now, thanks
[02:37] <mwe> odin_: good
[02:38] <duelboot> anyone know the symbolic link between gcc3.4 and 4.0?
[02:38] <pablo_> has any of yo set up a lstp over ubuntu 5.10?
[02:38] <_jason> duelboot: what do you mean?
[02:38] <Jowi> !info ltsp-server
[02:38] <mwe> devnull_: there shouldn't be one
[02:38] <ubotu> ltsp-server: (Basic LTSP server environment), section misc, is optional. Version: 0.58 (breezy), Packaged size: 11 kB, Installed size: 88 kB
[02:38] <nixed0> killerbeesateme: take a look at http://www.linux-nis.org/nis-howto/HOWTO/
[02:38] <PwcrLinux> polpak: u there?
[02:38] <odin_> mwe: ...or not.
[02:38] <duelboot> _jason, think you helped me the other day...trying to compile and getting an error
[02:38] <nixed0> killerbeesateme: On some systems there is a bug with compat and NISplus
[02:38] <mwe> duelboot: there shouldn't be one
[02:38] <TruckerMan> FlannelKing,  CD UBUNTU 5.10 Breezy Badger <binary>
[02:38] <_jason> duelboot: what error?
[02:38] <Jowi> pablo_: it's on the cd
[02:39] <daozoi> hey
[02:39] <engla> mwe: right, it can ask the kernel what type a device is, no?
[02:39] <mwe> duelboot: /usr/bin/gcc should be a symlink pointing to one of them
[02:39] <FlannelKing> TruckerMan: oh, go to settings, and check "show disabled software sources"
[02:39] <mwe> engla: it can check /proc/mounts
[02:39] <nixed0> killerbeesateme: you could try the example nsswitch.conf there http://www.linux-nis.org/nis-howto/HOWTO/nisplus.html#AEN357
[02:39] <RadSurfer> can ubuntu install on a 6gig hdd ?
[02:39] <FlannelKing> RadSurfer: yes
[02:39] <duelboot> _jason Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/misc/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted
[02:39] <killerbeesateme> nixed0:  i did poke around on there.  it looks like i'm not mapping the shadow.byname
[02:39] <mwe> engla: so yes
[02:39] <_jason> RadSurfer: yes minimum is ~1.8
[02:39] <FlannelKing> RadSurfer: well, assuming you have a computer attached ;)
[02:39] <engla> see, no fooling there then :(
[02:39] <TruckerMan> ok, thats somethin
[02:39] <duelboot> _jason, something else maybe?
[02:39] <RadSurfer> I got a weird error: /var/ has ran out of space ?
[02:39] <findik1> new computer not install ubuntu, although I installed with the same cd onto different machines
[02:39] <TruckerMan> now i got...
[02:40] <nixed0> killerbeesateme: ahh.. I don't map the shadow file. Using kerberos
[02:40] <_jason> duelboot: that doesn't look like a gcc error.  Are you following the wiki?
[02:40] <duelboot> yes
[02:40] <duelboot> which one?
[02:40] <_jason> !ndiswrapper
[02:40] <ubotu> well, ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[02:40] <nixed0> killerbeesateme: so, I've never really done the ypcat shadow.byname, just remembered that it didn't work the same way
[02:40] <amphi> duelboot: you get that with sudo?
[02:40] <duelboot> yes
[02:40] <RadSurfer> Seems ubuntu understand Diamond Stealth 64 better than mandriva did
[02:40] <FlannelKing> TruckerMan: check them all, should be a bunch of "officially supported/Restricted Copywrite" (under the bold) stuff.  And uncheck your cd
[02:40] <killerbeesateme> nixed0: well do you think thats the problem?
[02:40] <amphi> duelboot: any inspiring messages in the log?
[02:40] <engla> mwe: sometimes linux is all too permissive, letting userspace things access too much information. I like osx, where it's actually impossible for a non-privileged process to act as a keylogger. In linux, a user process can do whatever with other same-user processes
[02:41] <polpak> PwcrLinux, you can try to set the region I guess. I've never had any problems with DVD reading
[02:41] <killerbeesateme> nixed0: i'm just looking for a push in the right direction
[02:41] <duelboot> which log amphi?
[02:41] <PwcrLinux> polpak: which region in the USA?
[02:41] <findik1> anyone related to installation?
[02:41] <crackberry> howdy
[02:41] <nixed0> killerbeesateme: sec
[02:41] <mwe> engla: well in windows programs can do whatever they like
[02:41] <amphi> duelboot: /var/log/syslog - it's handy to have that dumped continuously to a spare VT I find
[02:41] <killerbeesateme> nixed0:  also it's just a regular NIS server, not NIS+
[02:42] <polpak> PwcrLinux, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-f371b31c67a1af653ce24a10659faabcfffc8f1c
[02:42] <TruckerMan> FlannelKing, ok, then save?
[02:42] <polpak> PwcrLinux, it'd really help if you actually read the wiki
[02:42] <duelboot> amphi, just what I get in dmeg, above
[02:42] <PwcrLinux> polpak: Or I can get MediaPlayer 10?
[02:42] <polpak> PwcrLinux, windows media player?
[02:42] <odin_> is there any shell command that puts me on the Desktop, no matter my location?
[02:42] <polpak> PwcrLinux, lol, no
[02:42] <amphi> duelboot: you get that when you do sudo modprobe?
[02:42] <PwcrLinux> lol, it's on wiki
[02:42] <kingspawn> odin_: cd ~/Desktop
[02:43] <kingspawn> odin_: might not be what you want.. :)
[02:43] <odin_> no ...
[02:43] <polpak> PwcrLinux, that's RealPlayer
[02:43] <FlannelKing> TruckerMan: aye, and then reload your repositories (top left button in SPM)
[02:43] <odin_> it's not..
[02:43] <odin_> hmm...
[02:43] <FlannelKing> TruckerMan: if it doesn't do it automatically
[02:43] <kingspawn> odin_: then what do you want?
[02:43] <duelboot> amphi:   Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/misc/ndiswrapper.ko): Invalid argument
[02:43] <nixed0> killerbeesateme: older versions of NIS didn't support shadow maps, but suse 10 should.. nis+ isn't really used anymore the dev team disbanded before it matured
[02:43] <osfameron> odin_: `nautilus ~/Desktop`  ?
[02:43] <polpak> PwcrLinux, and that won't help for DVD's, just .rm files
[02:43] <kingspawn> odin_: nautilus ~/Dsktop?
[02:43] <kingspawn> s/dsktop/desktop
[02:43] <odin_> the command isn't for the shell though, it's for in a program to make a folder
[02:43] <duelboot> amphi, funny thing is i had it setup properly before...then reinstalled ubuntu and now this
[02:43] <mwe> engla: I bet /proc/mounts or whatever it's called in osx can be accesed from user space as well
[02:44] <odin_> at the moment it's path is pointing into the file system where it can't make a new folder
[02:44] <kingspawn> odin_: ntfs?
[02:44] <PwcrLinux> polpak: Hmm i looked at it and I was wrong, and maybe could get RealPlayer?
[02:44] <engla> mwe: there is no /proc fs
[02:44] <TruckerMan> FlannelKing, should i skip the non supported/registered theres a couple or three, one about backports...
[02:44] <mwe> engla: programs would break if they couldn't see whats mounted
[02:44] <polpak> PwcrLinux, you certainly can.. It won't help with the DVD issue though
[02:44] <PwcrLinux> ah
[02:44] <mwe> engla: the osx kernel must keep track of mounts and let userspace see them
[02:45] <TruckerMan> FlannelKing, and one about community maintained security updates
[02:45] <vars> is ther a flash for linux that is any good?
[02:45] <UbuntuNewbie> hello again
[02:45] <UbuntuNewbie> who every suggested to turn off IPv6 thank you very much
[02:45] <PwcrLinux> Pol okay, seem the ubuntu might not any my DVD movies.
[02:45] <nixed0> killerbeesatme: yeah it looks like your problem is no NIS shadow maps, the correct syntax is ypcat shadow.byname
[02:45] <killerbeesateme> nixed0: hmm ok.  i don't think Suse built a shadow map.  in their rpm changelog it says it didn't build shadow map if merge password is used.
[02:45] <odin_> and I can't put the ~ character in the path
[02:46] <amphi> duelboot: what was your exact command line?
[02:46] <engla> mwe: yeah. well, it only doesn't let you know everything about the devices attached
[02:46] <UbuntuNewbie> now im browser is faster
[02:46] <FlannelKing> don't do backports.  registered? or restricted? and, non-supported? oh, community maintained is universe, and not-free is multiverse (although I don't know if that's the right label, it should be not-maintained? I think)
[02:46] <UbuntuNewbie> nom my
[02:46] <kingspawn> odin_: im not sure what youre saying
[02:46] <swim> hey folks is there any sort of apache setup gui?
[02:46] <duelboot> amphi, hold on...deleting all and trying again
[02:46] <UbuntuNewbie> now my browser is faster*
[02:46] <killerbeesateme> nixed0: "/var/yp/Makefile: don't build shadow map if we merge passwd
[02:46] <killerbeesateme>     with shadow." if i'm reading this right
[02:46] <nixed0> killerbeesateme: ok, when you do a ypcat passwd do you see encrypted passwords?
[02:46] <daozoi> hey
[02:46] <daozoi> can i download something via CVS while on windows?
[02:47] <mwe> engla: so osx doesn't let user space get info about what's mounted where?
[02:47] <kingspawn> odin_: and please use my nick if you are adressing me
[02:47] <killerbeesateme> nixed0: yes i do
[02:47] <odin_> kingspawn:  okay, I'm in dvd::rip, and it's trying to make a folder relativer to its position in usr/shar/perl5 for it to store the ripped video and audio in
[02:47] <killerbeesateme> nixed0: looks like MD5
[02:47] <sara> can anyone help me witha DSL connection question?
[02:47] <nixed0> killerbeesateme: well, it's not shadow maps then
[02:47] <odin_> kingspawn:  and I'm trying to direct it out of the file system to my desktop where it can make the folder
[02:48] <amphi> odin_: your user doesn't have perms to write anywhere but ~ /tmp and /var/tmp by default
[02:48] <killerbeesateme> nixed0:  ok.  so is ubuntu looking for a shadow map?
[02:48] <amphi> sara: not if you don't ask it
[02:48] <kingspawn> odin_: hm, well, okay.. youi havent got the permissions to write in /usr
[02:48] <odin_> amphi:  I know, but the program is still trying to write there
[02:48] <nixed0> killerbeesateme: it depeneds on the nsswitch.conf
[02:48] <kingspawn> sara: fire
[02:48] <odin_> kingspawn: ^see above
[02:48] <devnull_> in kernel 2.6.16 i don't see an option for devfs ... do i need devfs?
[02:48] <engla> mwe: yes it does
[02:48] <PwcrLinux> polpak: which program you used to play DVD movies?
[02:48] <kingspawn> odin_: change where it writes, or sudo it, if it is very important
[02:49] <engla> mwe: this specific thing is probably a very bad example
[02:49] <odin_> kingspawn:  yeah, I'm trying to change where it writes, but failing
[02:49] <snozle> I can't get my wireless card to enter monitor mode via iwconfig
[02:49] <TruckerMan> FlannelKing, ok, i did something,  not sure
[02:49] <sara> amphi i'm on cable right now, but at home im trying to set up my DSL connection... the modem etc is set up properly but Ubuntu doesnt seem to find the connection
[02:49] <TruckerMan> but thanks
[02:49] <Ven] n^> guys, how to set the time to system time? linux now shows correct time, but when i boot in xp.. its wrong
[02:49] <amphi> odin_: tell it to write somewhere else; if that program is a pain, you could try acidrip
[02:49] <killerbeesateme> nixed0:  well, should i remove that line? or put something else in it?
[02:49] <kingspawn> odin_: what program is it?
[02:49] <UbuntuNewbie> ok i know i shouldn't ask this question, but will i be need IPv6 be turn on in the future
[02:49] <sara> I tried to install pppoe , but it doesnt run properly
[02:49] <kingspawn> odin_: sorry if i am slow, i am drunk as a badger
[02:49] <odin_> kingspawn:  dvdrip
[02:50] <mwe> engla: I think linux security is very high
[02:50] <odin_> kingspawn:  haha, no prob
[02:50] <nixed0> killerbeesateme: you had compat on all the lines before?
[02:50] <FlannelKing> Ven] n^: that's because linux sets system time to GMT, and uses a user-based offset, windows uses the system time as is (and changes it often)
[02:50] <duelboot> amphi, _jason...got it! thx anyway
[02:50] <amphi> sara: the only dsl modem I've used was an alcatel speedtouch with pppoatm
[02:50] <killerbeesateme> nixed0: yes
[02:50] <Cooner750> I'm having a feeling the calculator is messing up on me. I entered 2+5*2 and it says 12. Isn't that 14?
[02:50] <_jason> duelboot: great
[02:50] <FlannelKing> UbuntuNewbie: not really.  Or, not in the near future, unless something else happens major worldwide.
[02:50] <kingspawn> odin_: google tells me your dvdrip is written in perl. ugh. that is like being written in sewage.
[02:50] <sara> amphi im using a dlink dsl modem
[02:50] <_jason> Cooner750: pemdas
[02:50] <Ven] n^> FlannelKing, yes, but i thought i did it correctly at installation.. but how to fix?
[02:50] <amphi> duelboot: cool (well, coolish, ndiswrapper is sub-optimal ;)
[02:50] <kingspawn> odin_: does man dvdrip tell you anything?
[02:51] <duelboot> yes, but it works!
[02:51] <duelboot> native wouldn't work for me
[02:51] <odin_> not really
[02:51] <odin_> kingspawn:  is acidrip in the ubuntu archive?
[02:51] <kingspawn> odin_: dvdrip --help?
[02:51] <Puter>  I've just installed and configured SQUID 2.5.10-6.....However it keeps exiting with this "Squid Parent: child process 12952 exited due to signal 6" anyone else had this problem ?
[02:51] <FlannelKing> Ven] n^: you'll have to ... change your offset to 0, and then set the system time to the correct time.  Windows doesn't knowhow to do it any other way.  unfortunately (it screws up timestamps on files around DST, bugger).
[02:51] <amphi> sara: did you look for a howto at tldp.org? there may well be a suitable one there
[02:51] <kingspawn> odin_: are we talking the legacy program acidrip that rips ansi-files to graphics?
[02:51] <Cooner750> Well, the original equation is 2(X+5) where X=2
[02:51] <sara> my server said I need to first register my ip-mac address , which I did, then they said I need to know my machines IP address to continue... how can I see my machines IP address?
[02:52] <killerbeesateme> nixed0: switching the shadow value to files or compat doesn't work
[02:52] <Ven] n^> FlannelKing, and how to do that? :)
[02:52] <odin_> kingspawn:  oh, no, dvdrip is for ripping dvds
[02:52] <_jason> Cooner750: then enter it with the parentheses :)
[02:52] <deadlycow21> this is so hard...
[02:52] <amphi> FlannelKing: windows can't deal with the hw clock set to utc???
[02:52] <PwcrLinux> polpak: u there?
[02:52] <amphi> sara: sudo ifconfig
[02:52] <Cooner750> 'Malformed expression"
[02:52] <nixed0> killerbeesateme: do you have +:::::::: in /etc/shadow?
[02:52] <FlannelKing> amphi: not that Im aware of.
[02:52] <_jason> Cooner750: what are you using?
[02:52] <Cooner750> 2(2+5)
[02:52] <_jason> Cooner750: what program?
[02:52] <amphi> sara: sudo ifconfig -a to see all available interfaces
[02:52] <mda_user> This computer I'm using has a 3dfx voodoo 3 card and I noticed in synaptics that xserver-xorg has a dependency of xserver-xorg-driver-glide (which is not recommended) AND xserver-xorg-driver-tdfx (which I know works) however, is it possible to avoid glide libraries?
[02:52] <deadlycow21> me?
[02:52] <kingspawn> odin_: but man HAS to tell you how to redirect its output
[02:53] <FlannelKing> Ven] n^: that, I don't know ;) well, not the linux stuff.  I know how to set system time
[02:53] <_jason> Cooner750: you probably need 2*(2+5)
[02:53] <Cooner750> The bulit in Calculator that comes with Ubuntu..
[02:53] <amphi> FlannelKing: that's incredible - I know 9x couldn't, which was lamentable even then
[02:53] <luis_> can anyone provide me instructions on how to update my openoffice to the latest version?, since I had to reinstall my whole system twice because of errors in the process...
[02:53] <UbuntuNewbie> has anyone installed KDE dev package
[02:53] <sara> when I do that eth0 doesnt show an ip address  but the next one down  lo   does
[02:53] <odin_> kingspawn:  wait, what's man?
[02:53] <killerbeesateme> nixed0: yes i do
[02:53] <FlannelKing> amphi: yeah, it pisses me off to no end.  Having to do mental math regarding timestamps and filenames.
[02:53] <_jason> ubotu: tell luis_ about ooo2
[02:53] <no0ticoglione> Is there a way to use a realtime kernel on ubuntu?
[02:53] <kingspawn> odin_: "man dvdrip" at the command line
[02:53] <amphi> sara: lo is the loopback interface
[02:53] <kingspawn> odin_: man is your source of info in linux. man <whatever> tells you a whole lot
[02:53] <no0ticoglione> are there precompiled kernels or something else?
[02:53] <odin_> kingspawn: ah
[02:54] <amphi> FlannelKing: I haven't run windows since 9x
[02:54] <luis_> _jason, I've already gone to that site and it was no help for me, I have no idea what to do with that bunch of files...
[02:54] <nixed0> killerbeesateme: really don't know.. ypcat passwd works, whoami resolves UID's, it's seems like a password auth problem to me
[02:54] <amphi> odin_: /usr/share/doc/$PACKAGE_NAME often contains useful info
[02:54] <kingspawn> odin_: use it for EVERYTHING
[02:54] <_jason> luis_: ok, I'll help you.  Have you edited your /etc/apt/sources.list before?
[02:54] <nixed0> killerbeesateme: maybe a pam auth problem.. really don't know though
[02:54] <kingspawn> odin_: even "man man"
[02:54] <luis_> _jason: well, no :P
[02:55] <deadlycow21> can anyone recommend a good wifi utility that is compatable with the NETGEAR "WG311"?
[02:55] <sara> now that im on a cable connection (which ubuntu recogizes) it does list an IP for eth0, but when I hook up the DSL modem to the same onboard ethernet card it doesnt show an IP
[02:55] <_jason> luis_: what architecture are you using?
[02:55] <odin_> kingspawn:  it can open cluster control winder, set debugging leve, execute transcode or transcode_split, title_nr, or preferences filename, nothing else
[02:55] <luis_> _jason: ubuntu 5.10
[02:55] <deadlycow21> can anyone recommend a good wifi utility that is compatable with the NETGEAR "WG311"?
[02:55] <_jason> luis_: i386, amd64, or ppc?
[02:55] <luis_> _jason: i386
[02:55] <_deadlycow21> can anyone recommend a good wifi utility that is compatable with the NETGEAR "WG311"?
[02:56] <kingspawn> odin_: hm, there is online documentation at google: dvdrip docs
[02:56] <mwe> _deadlycow21: what should it do?
[02:56] <findik1> can anybody help on cd installation problem?
[02:56] <_deadlycow21> just connect to LAN
[02:56] <kingspawn> odin_: i wont install that shit just to help you, im afraid :)
[02:56] <_jason> luis_: ok do this in a terminal: gksudo 'gedit /etc/apt/sources.list'
[02:56] <mwe> _deadlycow21: show link quality and such?
[02:56] <odin_> kingspawn:  how do you exit out of man?
[02:56] <snozle> I'm having trouble getting my prism2 card to enter monitor mode I'm using the wlanng driver, can someone help me out?
[02:56] <killerbeesateme> nixed0:  yea its an odd problem.  all my passwords are correct, they work in ssh, and i've been trying 3 accounts at a time.  i just find it very odd that I can su to them as root
[02:56] <_deadlycow21> ok
[02:56] <kingspawn> odin_: just press 'q'
[02:56] <marcin_> lol
[02:56] <odin_> k
[02:56] <_deadlycow21> 802b
[02:56] <RadSurfer> Since I have to select U.S. English as my language, why is Ubuntu installing all these language gnome packages?
[02:56] <killerbeesateme> it makes me think that i don't have proper permission to some file somewhere
[02:56] <mwe> _deadlycow21: if so any wifi tool will work
[02:56] <kingspawn> killerbeesateme: sorry, but what are you trying to do?
[02:57] <luis_> _jason: ok, done
[02:57] <_deadlycow21> but, none of them are easy to insall
[02:57] <nixed0> killerbeesateme: su as root will bypass the authentication
[02:57] <theripper> what type of server is fastmail.fm?
[02:57] <mwe> _deadlycow21: the wireless tools are not hardware specific
[02:57] <_deadlycow21> i have wifi-radar installed but, it won't hap
[02:57] <IdleOne> RadSurfer, good question and I wish I knew also
[02:57] <_deadlycow21> i know
[02:57] <_deadlycow21> but, no networks show up :)
[02:57] <sara> is my IP address from eth0 ..from the card itself.. or does the cable server give it that ip address?
[02:57] <_deadlycow21> :(*
[02:57] <killerbeesateme> kingspawn: i'm trying to resolve a problem with NIS.  I can ypcat every map except shadow (which suse doesn't use), and i can't get users authenticated
[02:57] <mwe> _deadlycow21: is your interface up?
[02:57] <_deadlycow21> ?
[02:57] <_deadlycow21> i think so
[02:58] <mwe> _deadlycow21: did you configure your wireless connection?
[02:58] <kingspawn> killerbeesateme: sorry to be slow, but why are we talking about suse?
[02:58] <TruckerMan> allright FlannelKing i owe ya one
[02:58] <_deadlycow21> wme: i don't know
[02:58] <Puter>  I've just installed and configured SQUID 2.5.10-6 on UBUNTU 5.10.....However it keeps exiting with this "Squid Parent: child process 12952 exited due to signal 6" anyone else had this problem ?
[02:58] <FlannelKing> TruckerMan: get it all worked out?
[02:58] <killerbeesateme> kingspawn: my NIS server is running on Suse 10
[02:58] <mwe> _deadlycow21: then you didn't
[02:58] <_deadlycow21> wme: ok
[02:58] <_deadlycow21> wme: lol
[02:58] <TruckerMan> yeah
[02:58] <FlannelKing> TruckerMan: good to hear.
[02:58] <duelboot> amphi, before I installed ndiswrapper I could "see" my card, but it wouldn't do anything...said the kernel didn't match...so I rebooted with -9-386 (my default) and tried...didn't work again...what could I have done instead? _jason, any ideas as well?
[02:58] <TruckerMan> thanks
[02:58] <luis_> _jason: plz, what next?
[02:58] <_deadlycow21> wme: how do i config?
[02:58] <kingspawn> killerbeesateme: there's your problem! (sorry) have you checked the configs thoroughly?
[02:58] <_deadlycow21> wme: i thought that i did
[02:59] <mwe> !tell _deadlycow21 about wifi
[02:59] <mwe> _deadlycow21: read /msg from ubotu
[02:59] <_deadlycow21> ok
[02:59] <nixed0> kingspawn: definetely a YAST problem ; )
[02:59] <kingspawn> nixed0: without a doubt ;)
[02:59] <mwe> _deadlycow21: try that guide. then come back if you have problems
[02:59] <amphi> duelboot: I've never needed to use ndiswrapper
[02:59] <_jason> luis_: ok now at the bottom line put: ``deb http://people.ubuntu.com/~doko/OOo2 ./'' without the quotes
[03:00] <killerbeesateme> kingspawn: I've been using yast to keep it as vanilla as possible.  If i were to delve into the config files by hand, what would you suggest I look for?
[03:00] <got2b3d> I can't seem to get the nvidia.run to install after I have followed all of the instructions.
[03:00] <_deadlycow21> wme: well, thanks for the help
[03:00] <mwe> _deadlycow21: wireless is sometimes a bitch in linux
[03:00] <_deadlycow21> wme: lol
[03:00] <duelboot> amphi, okay
[03:00] <OutsideTheBox> I'm currently having a problem with configuring VSFTPD, whenever I attempt to connect to the FTP server... I get the error "500 OOPS: cannot locate user entry:ftpsecure"
[03:00] <wastrel> amphi:  that's an amusing essay
[03:00] <mwe> _deadlycow21: but you can make it work
[03:00] <OutsideTheBox> any help would be great
[03:00] <sHaDe> n8 all
[03:00] <killerbeesateme> kingspawn:  it seems to me that my problem has to do with a shadow map,  other than that everything seems correct.
[03:00] <mwe> _deadlycow21: unless you have a very exotic card
[03:00] <avinoam> Hey everyone, I'm trying to log onto my wireless network, i'm getting an IP from the router, but pings aren't going through, any ideas?
[03:00] <got2b3d> I have my var/log incase someone can take a look.
[03:00] <duelboot> amphi, _jason, thx for the "help"; i was at the ndiswrapper wiki, instead of ubuntu widi
[03:00] <odin_> kingspawn:  so there's no way I can tell it to go to the desktop before making the folders?
[03:00] <duelboot> wiki that is
[03:01] <luis_> _jason: right, done!
[03:01] <devnull_> my kernel complains about devfs after boot ... i am using udev .. how do i get that issue fixed ?
[03:01] <duelboot> how do I make a deb package from a tar file?  or should I just compile it with make?
[03:01] <vars> how do i get flash working on my browser?
[03:01] <_jason> luis_: now save, and run 'sudo apt-get update'
[03:01] <vars> apt-get ....
[03:01] <_jason> ubotu: tell vars about flash
[03:02] <got2b3d> */var/log/nvidia-installer.log
[03:02] <wastrel> odin_:  tell what?
[03:02] <luis_> _jason: oh right! thx, it's downloading :)
[03:02] <odin_> wastrel:  tell dvdrip
[03:02] <kingspawn> odin_: what do you mean "go to the desktop"? do you want it to make its output on the desktop?
[03:03] <_jason> luis_: well to do the upgrades you can go to system > administration > synaptic, mark all upgrades, and then apply
[03:03] <wastrel> man dvdrip
[03:03] <wastrel> i dunno :] 
[03:03] <luis_> _jason: yeah, synaptic just told me about the updates :)
[03:03] <odin_> kingspawn:  I want it to change its storage path to the Desktop instead of being relative to the Perl5 folder
[03:03] <_jason> luis_: ah ok cool
[03:03] <luis_> _jason: see, thx! really helpful!
[03:03] <_jason> luis_: np
[03:04] <ubuntu-challenge> My firefox doesn't load... Any suggestions? I tried re-installing the package, but same problem
[03:04] <duelboot> anyone know how to make a deb pkg from a tar file?
[03:04] <RadSurfer> 91% copying xfonts... and just waiting there. is this normal ?
[03:04] <luis_> _jason: but it is 2.0.1, the latest is 2.0.2 isnt it?
[03:04] <_jason> luis_: it is not the very latest
[03:04] <kingspawn> odin_: there is 100% surely a way to do this
[03:05] <_jason> luis_: I don;t know of a safe way to do that
[03:05] <odin_> kingspawn:  haha, that's reassuring
[03:05] <got2b3d> could someone look at my /var/log/nvidia-installer.log to determine where I am going wrong?
[03:05] <luis_> _jason: no problem, and I get the 'safe' idea, since I messed up my system twice :P
[03:05] <wastrel> odin_:  it's a perl script?
[03:05] <htrp> how do you update your kernel?
[03:05] <wastrel> odin_:  perl scripts are text files, open the file and change the path
[03:05] <mwe> htrp: sudo apt-get update. it will update if an update is available
[03:06] <RadSurfer> copying xfonts-base....and still holding at 91%
[03:06] <kingspawn> odin_: google is your friend
[03:06] <htrp> i mean upgrade
[03:06] <kingspawn> odin_: and remember: never run anything coded in perl :)
[03:06] <odin_> *huggles google*
[03:06] <luis_> _jason: thx for everything, now I really gotta go, cya
[03:06] <got2b3d> http://pastebin.com/643331
[03:06] <kingspawn> perl is like your mother-in-law: ugly and of no use
[03:06] <mwe> htrp: do you mean a custom kernel?
[03:06] <NsOmNiAc> LOL
[03:06] <wastrel> why is my printer still printing in color after i set it to black & white?
[03:07] <htrp> no, im using 2.4.27 kernel, and i want to upgrade it to 2.6.*
[03:07] <mwe> kingspawn: perl rocks.
[03:07] <vars> _jason, thanks
[03:07] <ltR20> How do I watch .MOV files inside of firefox?
[03:07] <mwe> htrp: is this ubuntu?
[03:07] <ltR20> movies won't load.
[03:07] <_jason> ltR20: I like using mplayer plugin
[03:07] <kingspawn> mwe: yes, in an alternate universe :)
[03:08] <ltR20> how do i intergrade it with firefox?
[03:08] <_jason> ltR20: with w32codecs
[03:08] <ltR20> so it doesn't say missing codecs
[03:08] <ltR20> i already downloaded that
[03:08] <_jordan> Is anyone here good with wireless network cards?
[03:08] <_jason> ltR20: do you have mplayer and mplayer plugin installed?
[03:08] <mwe> kingspawn: you don't understand it therefore you think it's of no use I guess
[03:08] <ltR20> _jason, http://www.apple.com/trailers/touchstone/flightplan/index2c.html
[03:08] <ltR20> can you see that?
[03:08] <htrp> mwe, debian :)
[03:08] <kingspawn> mwe: no, i used to code perl. though, there are lots of thigs i do not know
[03:08] <kingspawn> mwe: i just hate it :)
[03:09] <mwe> kingspawn: I see
[03:09] <kingspawn> mwe: rather than using perl i go for assembler
[03:09] <_jason> ltR20: yeah, I rented it a few days ago.  It was pretty good.  and yeah I see the preview too
[03:09] <kingspawn> mwe: faster, and more user friendly
[03:09] <ltR20> can you see it on the page though :P
[03:09] <ubuntu-challenge> Ha, running firefox on wine. Classic. :)
[03:09] <amphi> kingspawn: for great portability! ;)
[03:09] <ltR20> so i download what plugins?
[03:09] <mwe> kingspawn: I see
[03:09] <nixed0> kingspawn: user friendly?
[03:09] <kingspawn> amphi: no problem, i say! ;)
[03:09] <kingspawn> nixed0: compared to perl, yes
[03:10] <mwe> kingspawn: pretty extreme difference I'd say :)
[03:10] <avinoam> anyone know why a wifi router would give me an ip address, but not let me surf the web? assuming that the internet works, which it does
[03:10] <wastrel> #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:10] <wastrel> avinoam:  do you have dns servers set?
[03:10] <mwe> kingspawn: perl is about as high level as it gets. assembler as lowlevel as it gets
[03:10] <kingspawn> mwe ;)
[03:10] <findik1> where can I get help on ubuntu cd installation
[03:10] <nixed0> kingspawn: we have a different definition of user, kinda like the misuse of the term cluster )
[03:10] <kingspawn> mwe: i might be stretching it ;)
[03:10] <preglow> HACK!
[03:10] <avinoam> wastrel hmm... not sure, doesn't that get taken care of when you set it to dhcp?
[03:10] <RadSurfer> looks like this old system froze up again :(
[03:11] <kingspawn> nixed0: ahaha, yeah :)
[03:11] <amphi> avinoam: you have an apropriate default route?
[03:11] <RadSurfer> Just turn it off and try again?  I guess.
[03:11] <Yango> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[03:11] <Yango>   mozilla-dom-inspector: Depends: mozilla-browser (= 2:1.7.12-0ubuntu2) but 2:1.7.12-1ubuntu1 is to be installed
[03:11] <Yango> E: Broken packages
[03:11] <avinoam> amphi you mean in route -n?
[03:11] <amphi> avinoam: yeah - dhcp _should_ do that
[03:11] <ltR20> _jason you still there?
[03:11] <ltR20> i installed mozilla-mplayer
[03:12] <eno> what is that line you type to get cpu info? something /dev/something?
[03:12] <amphi> eno: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[03:12] <kingspawn> eno: perhaps cat /proc/cpuinfo
[03:12] <bunniears> hi guys
[03:12] <eno> thanks guys!
[03:12] <leinad> ol
[03:12] <YusukeLinux> who in this channel speak in portuguese????
[03:12] <leinad> alguem fala portugues?
[03:12] <IdleOne> !br
[03:12] <amphi> !pl
[03:12] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[03:12] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu.pl
[03:12] <Yango> has anyone else tried to install mozilla-browser and mozilla-dom-inspector?
[03:12] <YusukeLinux> !br
[03:12] <bunniears> i've just tried to install build-essential, but i get this:   build-essential: Depends: libc6-dev but it is not going to be installed or
[03:12] <leinad> brazil
[03:12] <findik1> any help?
[03:12] <leinad> ou
[03:12] <leinad> brasil
[03:13] <YusukeLinux> leinad blza?
[03:13] <avinoam> amphi yeah so it's weird
[03:13] <leinad> blz
[03:13] <kingspawn> bunniears: which distro?
[03:13] <bunniears> errm
[03:13] <leinad> de onde bc 
[03:13] <bunniears> kingspawn, hoary i think
[03:13] <findik1> quit
[03:13] <kingspawn> bunniears: dapper or breezy?
[03:13] <got2b3d> should I install my nvidia card before or after the drivers?
[03:13] <kingspawn> bunniears: oh lord
[03:13] <YusukeLinux> leinad te falar vc usa o q?
[03:13] <bunniears> kingspawn: EEEEK?
[03:13] <mwe> bunniears: sounds like /etc/apt/sources.list might be broken
[03:14] <leinad> YusukeLinux to experimentando o umbutu
[03:14] <amphi> avinoam: and /etc/resolv.conf has appropriate name server ips ?
[03:14] <kingspawn> bunniears: first, you add the breezy repositories
[03:14] <wastrel> don't hate me because i'm beautiful
[03:14] <kingspawn> bunniears: then you upgrade to breezy
[03:14] <ltR20> Does anyone know how to play .mov files inside of mozilla firefox?
[03:14] <kingspawn> bunniears: then you get to ti
[03:14] <leinad> YusukeLinux to experimentando o ubuntu
[03:14] <ltR20> i get the plugin box
[03:14] <kingspawn> s/ti/it
[03:14] <amphi> avinoam: can you ping/browse to 72.14.207.99 for example?
[03:14] <avinoam> amphi no man, i didn't touch those, and i've never had to. i want to resolv.conf to stay constant because i use internet at home too.
[03:15] <bunniears> what version is 5.10 ?
[03:15] <Yango> what's the switch for apt-get to ignore unmet deps?
[03:15] <avinoam> amphi i'll have to check later because i'm in windows now (ubuntu wouldn't connect me through wifi). what is that address?
[03:15] <mwe> ltR20: you need something like mozilla-mplayer and the codecs
[03:15] <amphi> Yango: --break-my-system
[03:15] <kingspawn> amphi: you do that!
[03:15] <amphi> heh
[03:15] <ltR20> mve, i downloaded those
[03:15] <ltR20> and it still shows the plugin box
[03:16] <mwe> Yango: don't try to make it do that
[03:16] <ltR20> _jason you still there?
[03:16] <eno> what is kcore?
[03:16] <dabaR_> cafuego: ping
[03:16] <mwe> Yango: fix your broken sources.list instead
[03:16] <eno> is is doing weird stuff!
[03:16] <Yango> mwe, why is my sources.list broken?
[03:16] <Yango> mwe, when did it change?
[03:16] <danicuny> hello i need help
[03:16] <mwe> Yango: or don't install packages that are not for ubuntu
[03:16] <YusukeLinux> leinad eu tbm
[03:16] <_jason> ltR20: hey, were you able to get help.  My keyboard died on me and I saw you typing but couldn't respond lol... I managed to copy and paste letters to tell you I was coming back but then realized I couldn't send it :P
[03:16] <avinoam> amphi gottcha you wanna know if the problem is dns
[03:17] <ltR20> haha jason
[03:17] <YusukeLinux> leinad entra no debian-br
[03:17] <YusukeLinux> leinad entrou????
[03:17] <mwe> Yango: if a package has unmet deps it's either broken, not for ubuntu or you have a broken sources.list
[03:17] <ltR20> i downloaded the mozilla-mplayer plugin
[03:17] <bunniears> i'm on 5.10 what ever that is :D
[03:17] <ltR20> i already have the w32 codecs
[03:17] <Yango> mwe, it's probably broken
[03:17] <amphi> eno: /proc/kcore? that's your system memory - do not cat /dev/random to it ;)
[03:17] <danicuny> i need help
[03:17] <ltR20> and it still doesn't work,_jason
[03:17] <mwe> Yango: paste it on pastebin.com
[03:17] <_jason> ltR20: is mplayer the plugin that attempts to open the file?
[03:17] <odin_> so does anybody know of any better dvd ripping software than dvdrip?
[03:17] <mwe> Yango: then paste the url here and i'll look at it
[03:18] <eno> amphi: thanks
[03:18] <ltR20> No, nothing attemps to open anything
[03:18] <ltR20> firefox just shows a missing plugin box
[03:18] <cafuego> dabaR_: poing
[03:18] <danicuny> i need help installing yahoo messanger
[03:18] <mwe> Yango: what are you trying to install?
[03:18] <leinad> am alone I or vocs they tambm have problems to install new programs from Adicionar Applications or I am alone I?
[03:18] <amphi> eno: /proc is a virtual filesystem, the 'files' are not on the hd at all
[03:18] <avinoam> amphi what options do i need to set in iwconfig to use wep?
[03:18] <Yango> sudo apt-get install mozilla-dom-inspector
[03:18] <Yango> mwe, after installing mozilla-browser
[03:18] <eno> amphi: why is my terminal screwed up after cat /dev/random?
[03:19] <Khaaaaan> Are the repos down right now???
[03:19] <amphi> avinoam: man iwconfig knows ;) the 'key' argument
[03:19] <_jason> ltR20: ok first lets make sure mplayer can play it: mplayer 'http://images.apple.com/movies/touchstone/flightplan/flightplan_m480.mov
[03:19] <mwe> Yango: I see. is it breezy?
[03:19] <_jason> ltR20: (in a terminal)
[03:19] <tritium> avinoam: man wireless
[03:19] <Yango> mwe, yes
[03:19] <avinoam> amphi i know but there are some other options there that i didn't completely understand but unfortunately don't remmember off the top of my head
[03:19] <got2b3d> what kernel-headers do I need to install an nvidia card?
[03:19] <arrick> where can I get a free e-commerce web template, that i dont have to register somewahre?
[03:19] <avinoam> tritium there's a man page for wireless?
[03:19] <Khaaaaan> I am trying to connect to Synaptic package manager in XUBUNTU and I cant connect to any of the repos.....
[03:19] <Khaaaaan> What is going on????
[03:19] <ltR20> nothing happens _jason
[03:20] <amphi> eno: wierd chars? do ctrl-v ctrl-o and hit enter
[03:20] <eno> thanks
[03:20] <_jason> ltR20: pastebin the command and all of its output please
[03:20] <RadSurfer> this machine might be too old or defective :(
[03:20] <wastrel> flightplan eh
[03:20] <_jason> ubotu: tell ltR20 about pastebin
[03:20] <tritium> avinoam: yes
[03:20] <tkup> amphi, do you know why it's only 897? :)
[03:20] <leinad> falow
[03:20] <Khaaaaan> Could the repos listed in Xubuntu by default be wrong???
[03:20] <ltR20> _jason what command?
[03:20] <ltR20> i missed it
[03:20] <amphi> eno: it switched to the other half of the charset; you can get the wierd chars back with ctrl-v ctrl-n [enter] 
[03:20] <mwe> Yango: can you paste your sources.list on pastebin.com? and what was the exact error again?
[03:20] <cafuego> !test
[03:20] <ubotu> Passed.
[03:20] <_jason> ltR20: mplayer 'http://images.apple.com/movies/touchstone/flightplan/flightplan_m480.mov'
[03:20] <ltR20> the mplayer '' ?
[03:20] <b3nw> does anyone have dhcp3-server working on dapper?
[03:21] <Alexi5> hello
[03:21] <eno> amphi: why did it switch it?
[03:21] <eno> I will look up /dev/random
[03:21] <amphi> tkup: I do not - I only just noticed; the 1.5GB is used, I have BIGMEM support, but /proc/kcore doesn't reflect that
[03:21] <ltR20> _jason it's working
[03:21] <ltR20> it plays if i type it in terminal
[03:21] <tritium> b3nw: see the topic for the proper channel to ask dapper questions
[03:21] <bunniears> WOoooot, figured it :E
[03:21] <Sh4d0x> duelboot, still awake?
[03:21] <duelboot> yes
[03:21] <b3nw> cheers
[03:22] <_jason> ltR20: ok, are you using firefox1.07 provided in default breezy, or are you using self-installed 1.5?
[03:22] <Khaaaaan> Anyone know why XUBUNTU cannot connect to any repos???
[03:22] <Sh4d0x> duelboot, it didn't work
[03:22] <ltR20> _jason, i'm using 1.5
[03:22] <grizz> I have a question I was wondering how in unbuntu I can access my NTFS partions with all permisions on
[03:22] <mwe> Khaaaaan: it's not xubuntu specific I think
[03:22] <_jason> ltR20: ok, did you install to /opt?
[03:22] <mwe> Khaaaaan: maybe your sources.list needs to be fixed
[03:22] <ltR20> i don't remember, i followed a tutorial
[03:22] <ltR20> ill check
[03:22] <Yango> mwe, http://pastebin.com/643351
[03:22] <tkup> amphi, the kernel doesn't physically acknowledge anything above lowmem. so, you have highmem and therefore only the lowmem is reported un /proc/kcode
[03:22] <Khaaaaan> mwe: I dont think so....
[03:22] <ltR20> firefox is in OPT
[03:22] <ltR20> _jason
[03:23] <Khaaaaan> mew: they are the default ones supplied in the install
[03:23] <tkup> amphi, the kernel "switches" when it needs to go to highmem
[03:23] <ltR20> how can i make sure that's the version that's being used.
[03:23] <amphi> eno: a ctrl-n must have been in the stream from /dev/random; I forget what control-n is; man console_codes will know
[03:23] <_jason> ltR20: please pastebin the following: ls /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/ /opt/firefox/plugins/
[03:23] <PwcrLinux> _jason: polpak left a channel, and I needed up with a DVD movie play.. and I already installed the ccs and others, and the DVD cannot play, menus overlapped other menus, had to eject the DVD out by the mouse..
[03:23] <mwe> Khaaaaan: can you ping the repo?
[03:23] <amphi> tkup: ah, thanks
[03:23] <dabaR_> cafuego: so I just follow those instructions on the bcm43xx driver and my wireless works on my iBook G4? Is that the plan?
[03:23] <_jason> PwcrLinux: you mean libdvdcss?
[03:23] <bunniears> just another question :) -- I have a USB to ethernet adapter, is it possible to get it to work in ubuntu :) ?
[03:24] <ltR20> _jason:http://pastebin.com/643355
[03:24] <Yango> mwe and? any hint?
[03:24] <AngryElf> how do i send a command to the remote display over ssh......it's something like DISPLAY=0:0  ???
[03:24] <amphi> tkup: so it's not a bug, but a feature ;)
[03:24] <PwcrLinux> _jason: no, it's in the restricted wiki site..
[03:24] <mwe> Yango: hmm. why did you mix cl.archive.ubuntu.com and archive.ubuntu.com?
[03:24] <grizz> No one knows the answer I need
[03:24] <cafuego> dabaR_: That's what happens here. Just do NOT use network-manager.
[03:24] <tritium> AngryElf: ssh -X
[03:24] <_jason> ubotu: tell PwcrLinux about dvd
[03:25] <amphi> grizz: captve ntfs perhaps
[03:25] <eno> amphi: actives the g1 char set, and if lfnf (new line mode) is set, also carriage return
[03:25] <Yango> mwe, the installer did that... picked up the closest mirrors where they are... but that's obviously not the problem
[03:25] <eno> amphi: Fyi ;)
[03:25] <Yango> mwe, where they exist
[03:25] <amphi> eno: there you go ;)
[03:25] <tkup> amphi, yeah I guess :)
[03:25] <grizz> captve ntfs perhaps I am new so please explain
[03:25] <_jason> ltR20: sudo ln -s /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/mplayer* /opt/firefox/plugins
[03:25] <Khaaaaan> Anyone know where there is a list of repos?
[03:25] <avinoam> amphi, got the IP address of a stable server that i could ping?
[03:25] <mwe> Yango: try removing the cl. part everywhere. then sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and try again
[03:26] <amphi> grizz: it's something like ndiswrapper for the windows ntfs driver I believe, basically some wrapper that lets linux use the windows driver
[03:26] <_jason> PwcrLinux: did you ever run /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh to install libdvdcss?
[03:26] <mwe> Yango: if it's still broken, report a bug
[03:26] <wastrel>  64.233.187.99
[03:26] <bunniears> ohwell
[03:26] <bunniears> bye x
[03:26] <amphi> avinoam: 72.14.207.99
[03:26] <avinoam> ok cool
[03:26] <Yango> mwe, and if it isn't broken, I should report a bug too... cl mirror is broken
[03:27] <neurosis> anyone here using bastille?
[03:27] <ltR20> _jason: i did it.
[03:27] <CaptainMorgan> Dapper official ?
[03:27] <_jason> ltR20: restart firefox and try the apple site
[03:27] <mwe> Yango: I don't know how synced the country mirrors are
[03:27] <_jason> !dapper
[03:27] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[03:27] <CaptainMorgan> who's using Dapper?
[03:27] <CaptainMorgan> pushed to June? instead of April?
[03:27] <amphi> grizz: or you could ask Sir Bill to release ntfs specs to the kernel devs, or not use proprietary filesystems ;)
[03:27] <PwcrLinux> Jason: yes in the last sudo line in the wiki restricted site
[03:28] <mwe> Yango: maybe cl. doesn't have the latest version, gut I think it should have though
[03:28] <LadyNikon> hey
[03:28] <LadyNikon> do I need bind if I have no-ip?
[03:28] <ltR20> thanks _jjason, it works.
[03:28] <_jason> PwcrLinux: what player are you using?  and is the problem only that the dvd loads but the menus are screwed up?
[03:28] <_jason> ltR20: np
[03:28] <LadyNikon> I think i do but i wanna make sure
[03:28] <PwcrLinux> _jason: Totem
[03:28] <Yango> mwe, yes.... the package is broken
[03:28] <imcsee>  hello, does anybody know how to record xgl demo to a avi/mpeg file?
[03:28] <grizz> I am still lost so were do I type what you said before
[03:28] <Yango> mwe, as I already knew :P
[03:28] <_jason> PwcrLinux: totem with xine or gstreamer backend?
[03:28] <mwe> Yango: you tried what I suggested?
[03:28] <mwe> Yango: removing cl.
[03:29] <wastrel> what's a good color inkjet to buy?
[03:29] <wastrel> i need a printer.
[03:29] <Yango> mwe, yes
[03:29] <_jason> wastrel: check linuxprinting.org
[03:29] <PwcrLinux> _jason: non theme players, just plain totem
[03:29] <grizz> HP PSC 1500
[03:29] <amphi> grizz: type? I didn't suggest any command - google for 'captive ntfs' perhaps
[03:29] <Yango> mwe, did you try installing the dom-inspector?
[03:29] <Yango> mwe, that way you can confirm the bug
[03:29] <mwe> Yango: yes. but in dapper
[03:29] <mwe> Yango: in dapper it works
[03:29] <_jason> PwcrLinux: for dvd's I like xine, try installing gxine or xine-ui (or totem-xine if you want)
[03:29] <wastrel> _jason:  well that's how i chose my current doorstop
[03:29] <bur[n] er> anyone know how to grep a a directory full of files and return the lines that match as well as what file they're in?
[03:30] <_jason> wastrel: wow, what brand?
[03:30] <wastrel> epson stylus c86
[03:30] <mwe> Yango: can't use use the firefox one instead?
[03:30] <dabaR_> bur[n] er: it is called beagle
[03:30] <_jason> wastrel: I heard hp's are good, only thing I can say from personal experience is don't go with canon
[03:30] <wastrel> it's worked fine for about a year but since this orning won't print black :p
[03:30] <LadyNikon> I answered my own question
[03:30] <Yango> mwe, hmmmm that looks probable... as dom-inspector is newer than current mozilla-browser. it seems they forgot about us old breezy users
[03:30] <bur[n] er> dabaR_: beagle searches in files?
[03:30] <PwcrLinux> _jason: Okay, how I get the xine? I looked at other site looks good, does they have CC and stubtitles?
[03:30] <wastrel> s/orning/morning/
[03:30] <bur[n] er> dabaR_: as in a bunch of php files?
[03:30] <dabaR_> afaik
[03:30] <mwe> Yango: annoying
[03:31] <_jason> PwcrLinux: what is CC?
[03:31] <PwcrLinux> _jason: closed caption
[03:31] <grizz> Thanks I will look
[03:31] <coffeegrindah> closed caption
[03:31] <mwe> Yango: report a bug and flame the maintainer :)
[03:31] <Yango> mwe, but dapper isn't official yet, is it?
[03:31] <mwe> Yango: no
[03:31] <chris> arrick?
[03:31] <mwe> Yango: don't use it unless you know how to fix your own problems
[03:31] <_jason> PwcrLinux: I'll check them for you, I have never used it
[03:31] <arrick> yeah chris
[03:31] <chris> i got my ftp working :)
[03:31] <arrick> #arrick chris
[03:32] <YusukeLinux> portuguese?
[03:32] <PwcrLinux> _jason: okay
[03:32] <amphi> grizz: looks like you're SOL
[03:32] <Yango> mwe, I know how to do that, but I like to work or play on my machine, not solve problems about it :P
[03:32] <coffeegrindah> hey does anyone have a clue.. other than saying i have a sh!tty cam /// why my system would lock up entirely when in use, or whenever called to use via any supported app
[03:32] <PwcrLinux> !language
[03:32] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[03:32] <_jason> PwcrLinux: yes, I checked xine-ui and gxine and both have subtitle preferences.  I think gxine looks nicer in gnome, you should try that one imo
[03:32] <grizz> Ya I looked at mounting and I don't realy need to do that I can do theat from the drop down menu but I can only read I can't play wav files or any other music files or send them to any one it says I have no permision...
[03:33] <CaptainMorgan> where are the offline folders located in thunderbird? Im trying to locate them on Win and copy them to Ubun...
[03:33] <CaptainMorgan> I just searched all of the program files for TB.. can't find anything resembling folders..
[03:33] <mwe> Yango: yes. it's not that bad but a some things are borked still
[03:33] <_jason> YusukeLinux: portugues no #ubuntu-pt e #ubuntu-br
[03:33] <grizz> So I can brows and what not just not read and write and etc..
[03:34] <coffeegrindah> I'm attempting at setting up a webcam server and any app to attemmpt to bring up /dev/video1 crashes the entire system .. reboot stlye
[03:34] <mwe> Yango: I had a few probles getting emacs to show danish letters for example
[03:34] <amphi> grizz: oh, just a permission problem - I don't know about ntfs, don't use it; you probably have to set some UID and/or umask stuff in mount or /etc/fstab; someone here will know
[03:34] <arrick> hey mwe you still here?
[03:34] <mwe> arrick: yes
[03:34] <coffeegrindah> I should mention that /dev/video0 is my tuner .. woks fine
[03:34] <PwcrLinux> _jason: my DVD movies either CC and stubtitles. single player should have both CC or Stubtitle. just make sure it's both there..
[03:34] <amphi> grizz: you won't be able to write to it without cpative ntfs
[03:34] <mwe> !captive
[03:34] <ubotu> rumour has it, captive is a project to use windows NTFS drivers under linux. It does not work properly with Ubuntu.
[03:34] <arrick> do you remember the last commands you gave me, I want to write them down for futer reference, but my school was closing
[03:35] <arrick> mwe^^
[03:35] <_jason> PwcrLinux: just install gxine and try it :)  you can always remove it with one click if you don't like it
[03:35] <PwcrLinux> _jason: the totem only have stubtitles, no CC in other options..
[03:35] <mwe> arrick: ok. there is a little problem though
[03:35] <arrick> ok whats that?
[03:35] <PwcrLinux> _jason: okay how I get the gxine?
[03:35] <mwe> arrick: users should not own files in /var/www
[03:35] <arrick> I will change it back when I get done
[03:36] <_jason> PwcrLinux: enable the universe repository and use synaptic
[03:36] <UbuntuNewbie> finally got my rhythmbox working
[03:36] <kingspawn> 1) you must never use totem!
[03:36] <mwe> arrick: so make cron change owner of files in /var/www to root or something
[03:36] <arrick> if you know the commanf for that along with the others mwe
[03:36] <kingspawn> 2) you must never use totem!
[03:36] <CaptainMorgan> !thunderbird
[03:36] <ubotu> from memory, thunderbird is a FOSS email client, capable of close cooperation with Firefox, both by the Mozilla Foundation.  To make your thunderbird links open in firefox, see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=60427
[03:36] <kingspawn> 3) never use totem!
[03:37] <mwe> arrick: is it just for you or are a lot of users going to use it?
[03:37] <PwcrLinux> _jason: how to enable it, which program to be enabled it?
[03:37] <arrick> nope just me
[03:37] <_jason> ubotu: tell PwcrLinux about repos
[03:37] <eccf> hi, what is the cmd to change window manager? i remember something like 'cmd gnome'
[03:37] <_jason> ubotu: tell PwcrLinux about synaptic
[03:37] <Phlosten> kingspawn, dont like totem eh?
[03:37] <kingspawn> Phlosten: Dont ever use Totem! :)
[03:38] <kingspawn> Phlosten: its like going to the dentist every day
[03:38] <jedihe> exit
[03:38] <eccf> hmm. is it switchdesk or something?
[03:38] <arrick> mwe, just for me
[03:38] <interneti> im having a problem... im getting people trying to ssh into my box, and I have people trying to get into my computer on the gnutella ports
[03:38] <Phlosten> kingspawn, yes, i think its a bunch of crap too :)
[03:38] <mwe> arrick: ok. hold on a sec
[03:39] <arrick> mwe you could join #arrick and give them to me in there please?
[03:39] <kingspawn> Phlosten: hehe, i installed ubuntu, tried to play something, started hating Totem
[03:39] <interneti> and im getting people from china trying to get in also
[03:39] <ubuntu> hello
[03:39] <grizz> Totem whats that?
[03:39] <interneti> is this a regular occurrence
[03:39] <ubuntu> somebody can help me
[03:40] <arrick> !justask
[03:40] <ubotu> Ask your question and we'll try to answer it.
[03:40] <grizz> Help you with what?
[03:40] <kingspawn> grizz: apt-get install vlc, before you die
[03:40] <_jason> interneti: there isn't much you can do about that... use ssh keys or a really strong password, maybe allow access only to ip's you need
[03:40] <FlannelKing> interneti: It is common, people suggest changing your port to 1022 (or something else)
[03:40] <Sh4d0x> can someone help me out with my prism54 wifi card, it just won't work :(
[03:40] <ubuntu> this is my first ubuntu test
[03:40] <interneti> I don't use ssh!
[03:40] <kingspawn> interneti: score! go with telnet!
[03:40] <FlannelKing> oh, gnutella ports.  sorry.
[03:40] <_jason> heh
[03:40] <interneti> and im getting windows messenger spam attacks and such
[03:40] <ubuntu> I'll try to explain what is my problem, because my english is bad
[03:40] <interneti> lol kingspawn
[03:41] <_jason> interneti: they can't ssh into your box if you don't run the ssh server
[03:41] <ubuntu> so I apologize for that
[03:41] <_jason> ubotu: hi, what language are you more comfortable with?
[03:41] <ubotu> I think you lost me on that one, _jason
[03:41] <grizz> I will have to look at this later thanks
[03:41] <eccf> anyone here installed enlightenment on breezy?
[03:41] <_jason> ubuntu: hi, what language are you more comfortable with?
[03:41] <kingspawn> interneti: just change the port of whatever is making your life sour
[03:41] <ubuntu> spanish
[03:41] <_jason> !es
[03:41] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:41] <interneti> the thing is they are random ports that they are looking to get into
[03:41] <ubuntu> however i want to practice my english
[03:42] <_jason> ubuntu: oh ok
[03:42] <harisund> Hello everyone, I would be really grateful if someone could point me towards a nice place to start knowing more about pgp keys, using GnuPG and so on. I want to sign the Launchpad using the encrypted key thing, but I don't even where to start :(
[03:42] <kingspawn> interneti: i dont get any random port attacks - i get port 22 attacks :)
[03:42] <arrick> interneti, youc an close all ports but the ones you use, and then create strong passwords for the ones you use
[03:42] <Sh4d0x> _jason i've been told that you should be able to help me out :$ would ya like to help me?
[03:42] <kingspawn> all the f'n time
[03:42] <interneti> _jason like thisone 206.98.99.62
[03:42] <pablo_>  hi ! how do i create a key binding in ubuntu 5.10? im using the default wm
[03:42] <_jason> ubotu: tell harisund about gpg
[03:42] <_jason> Sh4d0x: just ask the channel and if I can help I will try
[03:43] <mwe> arrick: ok. i'm back
[03:43] <ubuntu> I'm working with the ubuntu live CD 5.1 version
[03:43] <interneti> arrick lead the way
[03:43] <Sh4d0x> _jason, ik already did ;)
[03:43] <_jason> interneti: that is completely normal.  If you don't run any services that listen on any ports then you have nothing to worry about
[03:43] <harisund> _jason, you are simply awesome. Thanks for that. I wonder if I could have asked ubotu myself :D.
[03:43] <ubuntu> but I don't know what is the root passwd
[03:43] <mwe> arrick: are you here?
[03:43] <harisund> _pablo, I believe you can to System->Preferences->Keyboard Bindings
[03:43] <_jason> Sh4d0x: ah I've never done wifi sorry, but I can send you to the wiki
[03:43] <_jason> ubotu: tell Sh4d0x about wifi
[03:43] <grizz> Talk to you all later thanks to those that tried to lead me down the right path to finishing my goals
[03:44] <kingspawn> t not the stupid script idiots
[03:44] <Sh4d0x> _jason, i know the wiki part, but duelboot command me to NOT use it
[03:44] <kingspawn> eh..
[03:44] <_jason> harisund: /msg ubotu gpg
[03:44] <CaptainMorgan> where are the offline folders located in thunderbird? Im trying to locate them on Win and copy them to Ubun...
[03:44] <kingspawn> nothing but blaming the whiskey can do
[03:44] <RadSurfer> Ubuntu 4.7 says installing kernel.  Maybe some of the 5.1 cd's are bad
[03:44] <_jason> Sh4d0x: oh
[03:44] <harisund> Thanks _jason :D
[03:44] <interneti> wtf is ports 1026 and 1027 for
[03:44] <interneti> *are
[03:44] <Ven] n^> google them
[03:44] <mwe> arrick: sudo chgrp -R admin /var/www && sudo chmod -R g+w /var/www
[03:45] <kingspawn> interneti: check your inet.d
[03:45] <amphi> interneti: look in /etc/services
[03:45] <kingspawn> interneti: or just use them and see what happens :)
[03:45] <Sh4d0x> can someone help me out with my wifi probleme ... *puppy eyes* :D
[03:45] <mwe> interneti: they are not standard for anything I think
[03:45] <sara> ubuntu and kbuntu both sound like a greeting
[03:45] <RadSurfer> I knew I should have burned my own download.
[03:45] <mwe> arrick: ?
[03:45] <orbin> ubuntu: i don't think there is one
[03:45] <sara> you say ubuntu, and i reply kbuntu  hehe
[03:45] <kingspawn> mwe: perl...
[03:45] <_jason> ubuntu: use sudo
[03:46] <kingspawn> mwe: (i love this discussion, haha)
[03:46] <_jason> ubuntu: tell ubuntu about sudo
[03:46] <kingspawn> mwe: its like vi vs emacs
[03:46] <_jason> ugh
[03:46] <_jason> ubotu: tell ubuntu about sudo
[03:46] <mwe> kingspawn: yeah. off topic though
[03:46] <kingspawn> mwe: yeah...
[03:46] <interneti> like when I whois one ip I get this  Internet America Policy Enforcement Team
[03:46] <FlannelKing> RadSurfer: you still can! (but when you do, turn down your burn speed a trifle, fast burns dont work well)
[03:47] <Grark> How do I allow a program read/write (update) status in usr/local?
[03:47] <kingspawn> mwe: gotta go offtopic sometimes
[03:47] <Cashel> HI.. Is there a way I can get apt to go through ever installed package and check for errors? Lost a lot of inodes and realy dont wanna re install (again!)
[03:47] <RadSurfer> I already know that.  How many CD's ISO's is it if I download all at once?
[03:47] <FlannelKing> Just one?
[03:47] <RadSurfer> most distro's are like 3 CD's at least. thats odd to me.
[03:47] <FlannelKing> Ubuntu doesn't do the debian thing where you can download aall packages, etc
[03:47] <FlannelKing> no, install is just one CD
[03:48] <RadSurfer> Especially if you dont have real high-speed. its more convenient to download packages to CD
[03:48] <LadyNikon> question.. do i remove zope 2.8 and install 3.0 or do I just leave it be and upgrade?
[03:48] <kingspawn> Cashel: apt-get -f install might be worth a shot
[03:48] <PwcrLinux> _jason: Aha! I got it, and then the screen warns me, should I back the the source.lst up or just cancelled not able to view it..
[03:48] <Cashel> kingspawn: I'll give it a spin thanks..
[03:48] <_jason> PwcrLinux: huh?
[03:48] <kingspawn> Cashel: might work.. atleast its helped me sometimes
[03:49] <FlannelKing> RadSurfer: I hear you.  You could always download specific packages you want and then burn them to a CD though, then install from the CD.
[03:49] <Cashel> hmm didnt seem to find any.. but then maybe it was just the gtk crap I allready fix that was broken...
[03:50] <orbin> LadyNikon: how are you intalling 3.0?
[03:50] <LadyNikon> orbin: synaptic
[03:50] <slavik> so, _jason, still need someone to edit the pci list for alsa?
[03:50] <Grark> or how do I "move" applications that install via apt-get?
[03:50] <_jason> slavik: you sure you have the right person?
[03:50] <slavik> ie: add the ati chipset
[03:51] <slavik> oops
[03:51] <RadSurfer> this machine is crap. oh well.
[03:51] <slavik> that was crimsun
[03:51] <Cashel> Grark: move?
[03:51] <slavik> sorry
[03:51] <_jason> :)
[03:51] <jcapote> any ideas on how to approach ethernet bridging in ubuntu?
[03:51] <RadSurfer> do a ctcp on me and see what I'm using now... I dare you. ;)
[03:51] <_jason> PwcrLinux: were you able to add universe?
[03:52] <Grark> Cashel, Azareus won't update because it's in a "protected" directory.  So I need to move it.
[03:52] <orbin> LadyNikon: syaptic should take care of conflicts.   i'd say install 3 then remove 2.8 if synaptic doesn't for you
[03:52] <interneti> who was asking about totem before?
[03:52] <Grark> Cashel, or is there a admin "places"?
[03:52] <bur[n] er> i have another silly question... anyone know how to make an .ico that retains transparency?  I could save a .png I have as a .bmp and rename it to .ico but I'm afraid I'll lose transparency
[03:53] <Cashel> Grark: remove it and install it by hand, Azareus can be in any directory you want it to be...
[03:53] <arrick> yeah mwe
[03:53] <findik1> may I get any help on cd install
[03:53] <bur[n] er> doh... krita has a "Windows Icon" export, nevermine :)
[03:53] <Cashel> Grark: type: which azareus
[03:53] <arrick> mwe, sorry Im in #arrick as well
[03:53] <Cashel> Grark: and you'll see where the package put it..
[03:53] <PwcrLinux> _jason: I got multimedia universal showed up and not seen the xgine program
[03:53] <snozle> can someone help me, I need to switch what drivers my wireless card is using
[03:53] <_jason> PwcrLinux: it's gxine
[03:53] <snozle> I have the new drivers installed, I just don't know how to enable them
[03:53] <LadyNikon> orbin: thanks
[03:53] <Grark> ok so in commandline how do I change permissions for the folder?
[03:53] <arrick> hey what is the command for tar.gz unzip and install again?
[03:54] <snozle> arrick tar-zxvvf
[03:54] <Cashel> Grark: if you insist on using the package, your need to use dpkg I think, because I dont recall apt-get having a directory option...
[03:54] <arrick> thanks
[03:54] <CaptainMorgan> anyone?
[03:54] <kingspawn> Grark: chmod and chgrp
[03:54] <PwcrLinux> _jason: not in there
[03:54] <Cashel> Grark: chown username:usergroup /directory/here
[03:54] <_jason> PwcrLinux: put the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ please
[03:54] <interneti> phlosten were you having totem issues
[03:54] <snozle> arrick, to install you have to cd into the extracted folder
[03:54] <htrp> how do you install GTK 2.* theme?
[03:54] <snozle> but first run apt-get build-dep application
[03:54] <PwcrLinux> okay
[03:54] <arrick> yeah
[03:54] <Cashel> Grark: make sure your not doing this to a system folder, best if its under /home somewhere...
[03:55] <snozle> arrick, then do ./configure
[03:55] <snozle> arrick, then make
[03:55] <amphi> snozle: what drivers?
[03:55] <snozle> arrick, then checkinstall
[03:55] <wastrel> @#$%&!
[03:55] <PwcrLinux> _jason: how copy and paste the list file?
[03:55] <Grark> ok i'll give it a shot, thanks Cashel
[03:55] <kingspawn> Grark: you go girl ,do it toi whatever you want
[03:55] <snozle> amphi, I want to either use hostAP or wlanng, I don't know what driver is being used now
[03:55] <kingspawn> Grark: as long as ou can reinstall whenever
[03:55] <arrick> snozle, dont gotta do that, it does it for you, just helping someone else do it like i did
[03:55] <_jason> PwcrLinux: gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:55] <snozle> arrick, oh
[03:55] <PwcrLinux> okay hold on
[03:55] <amphi> snozle: lsmod would tell you, probably
[03:55] <kingspawn> Grark: store all you rimportant data on an external disk till you get the hang of it
[03:56] <interneti> arrick remember to ./configure --help   for programs
[03:56] <wastrel> sudo ./setup.sh    -> chugs away doing some stupid junk.  click next button, click "add printer", asks for the root password.  WHY did you want me to sudo if you're just going to ask for superuser password later on?
[03:56] <interneti> lol
[03:56] <kingspawn> wastrel: do it as root, then.
[03:56] <snozle> amphi, what would it be called in lsmod?
[03:56] <db2fred_> If I got an IBM eSever pSeries server, would I be able to install the PowerPC version of Ubuntu on it?
[03:56] <jcapote> network bridging in breezer?
[03:57] <kingspawn> wastrel: let rip, i say
[03:57] <mwe> arrick: ok
[03:57] <jcapote> anyone?
[03:57] <mwe> arrick: so?
[03:57] <jcapote> breezy*
[03:57] <amphi> snozle: dunno, I don't use it, but I imagine some vaguely recognisable name
[03:57] <interneti> jcapote what's up?
[03:58] <kingspawn> snozle: perhaps "list modules"?
[03:58] <jcapote> interneti: i have a laptop with a wireless card and an ethernet card, i wanted to use my laptop as a bridge between the interfaces
[03:58] <wastrel> kingspawn:  same if i do as root.  i think it wants the cups administrator password.
[03:58] <snozle> amphi, i don't see anything remotely familiar in there
[03:58] <wastrel> which on ubuntu doesn't exist and is in fact i think explicitly disabled
[03:58] <wastrel> fun
[03:58] <snozle> kingspawn, that isn't a command
[03:58] <kingspawn> wastrel: ssssh, but enabling root is "sudo passwd root"
[03:58] <kingspawn> wastrel: "ssssssh!"
[03:58] <avinoam> Ok, when i try to ping an IP address, i get "sendmsg: operation not permitted"
[03:58] <interneti> jcapote I haven't got a clue
[03:58] <amphi> snozle: heh
[03:59] <wastrel> kingspawn:  no the root password i set.
[03:59] <_jason> CaptainMorgan: are you near philly?
[03:59] <kingspawn> snozle: it was meant as an explanations to why "lsmod"
[03:59] <wastrel> kingspawn:  the cups admin password is what i was talking about
[03:59] <interneti> CaptainMorgan what's going on?
[03:59] <kingspawn> wastrel, then change it
[03:59] <wastrel> how do you suggest i do that?
[03:59] <snozle> amphi, do you know how I can change the driver, I know which one I want to change to
[03:59] <Sh4d0x> i'm off for some sleep
[03:59] <CaptainMorgan> _jason not sure.. why?
[03:59] <snozle> kingspawn: oh, thanks
[03:59] <Sh4d0x> it's 4am
[03:59] <amphi> snozle: you could try modprobing the module
[03:59] <theripper> whos from philly?
[03:59] <Sh4d0x> cya all tomorrow
[03:59] <_jason> CaptainMorgan: guess I don't know then :)
[03:59] <kingspawn> Sh4d0x: it sure is
[04:00] <snozle> amphi, ah, I see it's using orinoco
[04:00] <snozle> and I definitely don't want to use that
[04:00] <kingspawn> too early for tv
[04:00] <CaptainMorgan> interneti, trying to find where thunderbirds offline folders are in Win so I can copy them to Ubun
[04:00] <snozle> amphi, orinoco_cs
[04:00] <CaptainMorgan> _jason, maybe.. maybe not..
[04:00] <Sh4d0x> kingspawn, in belgium where i am atm :D it is 4am night night time for me
[04:00] <htrp> how do you install gtk theme?
[04:00] <kingspawn> stop all the nagging about porting and/or importing of windows program to linux
[04:00] <kingspawn> Sh4d0x: in norway too :)
[04:00] <_jason> CaptainMorgan: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Local_Folders says it's in your profile folder
[04:01] <kingspawn> Sh4d0x: i really need to go to sleep :)
[04:01] <Cashel> wastrel: have you taken a look at /etc/cups/cupsd.conf ?
[04:01] <PwcrLinux> _jason: it's appeared text file about sources.list readonly
[04:01] <Sh4d0x> kingspawn, and i thought it was here cold :D guess by you guy's it still colder :D
[04:01] <_jason> PwcrLinux: I just need you to copy what you see, paste it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and then give me a link
[04:01] <CaptainMorgan> ah.. got it.. it's not under Program Files like I thought... it's under Application DAta
[04:01] <kingspawn> Sh4d0x: probalby :) but spring is coming.. :)
[04:01] <PwcrLinux> okay
[04:02] <tonyyarusso> CaptainMorgan: Yeah.
[04:02] <interneti> does ubuntu even need a firewall?
[04:02] <kingspawn> interneti: it all depends. isnt it weird?
[04:02] <_jason> interneti: not on a default install really
[04:02] <tonyyarusso> interneti: It has one.
[04:02] <mwe> interneti: well if no services are listening not really
[04:02] <wastrel> Cashel:  yes i have - now i just have to figure out how to turn on password for admin
[04:02] <Sh4d0x> kingspawn, indeed, at noon it' here around 16-18 C but atm, i'm having cold :D guess it's euhm minus 20 :D
[04:03] <Sh4d0x> kingspawn, but i'm off cya tomorrow, sleep tight
[04:03] <Sh4d0x> sleep tight ya all
[04:03] <interneti> dude I have firestarter but I wanted to know if the ports were defended by the iptables by default
[04:03] <kingspawn> Sh4d0x: night
[04:03] <avinoam> amphi any ideas what that error message could mean?
[04:03] <PwcrLinux> _jason: done
[04:03] <jcapote> interneti: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=111972
[04:03] <jcapote> found it :)
[04:03] <_jason> interneti: there are no default iptables rules, firestarter set all the ones you have now
[04:03] <kingspawn> interneti: ill bet that by default your internet router doesnt let even a pigs fart get by to your machine
[04:04] <_jason> PwcrLinux: link?
[04:04] <PwcrLinux> _jason: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11556
[04:04] <ScreaminIke> is there a way to edit a file automatically with one command? like... open it with pico or something, search for a certain phrase, and delete all instances of it?
[04:04] <interneti> lol kingspawn... im trying to get pigfart filter to work as we speak
[04:04] <ozo> hi
[04:04] <amphi> avinoam: not really
[04:04] <kingspawn> interneti: have you accessed you router at, perhaps, 10.0.0.1?
[04:05] <kingspawn> it will tell you what kind of rules it is applying
[04:05] <_jason> PwcrLinux: you have universe, you should be able to see gxine in synaptic.  If that is giving you trouble, you can just do: sudo aptitude install gxine
[04:05] <PwcrLinux> okay
[04:05] <PyChild> NON TECHNICAL QUESTION: Do anybody knows a good program for book writters? Something that helps you to organize your ideas?
[04:05] <wastrel> jolly freaking roger
[04:05] <Cashel> wastrel: I dont see anything about a password, but you can require an authentication key and encrypt....
[04:05] <wastrel> i just set authtype to none
[04:06] <wastrel> now everyone is happy
[04:06] <kingspawn> PyChild: i suggest emacs. but it really does need you to learn a lot of stuff.
[04:06] <ScreaminIke> pychild, look for mindmapping software
[04:06] <interneti> kingspawn everything is running fine just wanted to know a little more about the iptables config but I got it now
[04:06] <Cashel> PyChild: Openoffice ? :)
[04:06] <LadyNikon> anyone here use zope
[04:06] <wastrel> it's still limited to localhost and i'm the only user on the system
[04:06] <kingspawn> interneti: good
[04:06] <LadyNikon> I am trying to figure out how to start it :S
[04:06] <interneti> pychild you mean a mind mapping tool?
[04:06] <PyChild> mindmapping? kinda
[04:06] <mwe> PyChild: what do you mean it lets you organize your ideas?
[04:06] <PyChild> like a wiki
[04:06] <arrick> whats the port for ftp?
[04:06] <arrick> 21 or 25?
[04:06] <PyChild> i have tried tomboy and freemind
[04:06] <kingspawn> PyChild: always use emacs
[04:06] <interneti> look on freshmeat
[04:06] <amphi> avinoam: perhaps iptables is blocking pings? (guess)
[04:07] <kingspawn> everyone: always use emacs for your editiing
[04:07] <kingspawn> emacs rocks the world
[04:07] <Cashel> wastrel: if your the only user on the system, why are you trying to limit access to it?
[04:07] <interneti> oh god here comes vi vs emacs
[04:07] <LadyNikon> heh
[04:07] <mwe> arrick: 21
[04:07] <arrick> !emacs
[04:07] <ubotu> from memory, emacs is a text editor made by GNU. Some praise it as the world's best
[04:07] <avinoam> amphi but when i try pinging google.com i don't get that error (i just get another error because it can't find it)
[04:07] <arrick> thanks mewe
[04:07] <arrick> mwe
[04:07] <wastrel> Cashel:  i wasn't, the default setting on ubuntu disables access to the cups admin stuff
[04:07] <ScreaminIke> kdissert is in the repositories, pychild
[04:07] <mwe> arrick: 25 is smtp
[04:08] <amphi> avinoam: sounds like your dns is b0rked [as well] 
[04:08] <kingspawn> interneti: no no, there is no vi vs emacs - emacs always wins.. ;)
[04:08] <interneti> lol
[04:08] <arrick> ok couldnt remember mwe
[04:08] <kingspawn> there is no other program besides emacs
[04:08] <avinoam> amphi that doesn't really help man
[04:08] <kingspawn> with the right skills yo udo news, web, irc, and editing in emacs
[04:08] <interneti> kingspawn ever heard of nUbuntu?
[04:08] <Cashel> wastrel: dont use it often myself, so i'm not sure what you mean by admin stuff.. you can get at the config, thats as admin as I ever needed.....
[04:08] <htrp> how do i install GTK?
[04:08] <PwcrLinux> _jason: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[04:08] <mwe> arrick: /etc/services lists common ports
[04:08] <_jason> PwcrLinux: close synaptic
[04:08] <arrick> thanks
[04:08] <avinoam> amphi i think that the dns is good
[04:09] <amphi> avinoam: try host google.com
[04:09] <kingspawn> interneti: no., please tell me :)
[04:09] <interneti> kingspawn so its settled then...emacs
[04:09] <odin_> is there any way to uninstall programs?
[04:09] <_jason> odin_: right click > uninstall in synaptic
[04:09] <kingspawn> interneti: without a doubt
[04:09] <bimberi> odin_: use Synaptic to remove them
[04:09] <avinoam> amphi just like that?
[04:09] <kingspawn> odin_: synaptic, or apt-get --purge remove <program>
[04:09] <odin_> k, thanks
[04:09] <amphi> avinoam: just like that
[04:09] <mwe> interneti: I'd say latex. I use it in emacs for report at university
[04:09] <interneti> http://www.nubuntu.org/  ...... looks promising kingspawn
[04:09] <avinoam> amphi what will that do?
[04:09] <_jason> !offtopic
[04:09] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[04:09] <Cashel> heh
[04:10] <amphi> avinoam: it'll do a lookup on google.com - just do it already ;)
[04:10] <odin_> I'm gonna get rid of that bloody dvdrip for now, I think
[04:10] <ScreaminIke> is there a way to edit a file automatically with one command? like... open it with pico or something, search for a certain phrase, and delete all instances of it?
[04:10] <PwcrLinux> _jason: aha, looks good now :)
[04:10] <avinoam> amphi lol i gotta reboot into ubuntu
[04:10] <kingspawn> Cashel: emacs lets you do the same stuff twice as fast! (editor wars are the best!)
[04:10] <avinoam> amphi it works in windows
[04:10] <amphi> odin_: acidrip is quite jolly
[04:10] <hyphenated> ScreaminIke: there are more appropriate tools for that, like sed
[04:10] <amphi> avinoam: I'd check that and iptables
[04:10] <bimberi> ScreaminIke: sed (but don't ask me how :) )
[04:10] <kingspawn> ScreaminIke: vi file | :s/string/replace_with/g:wq
[04:10] <PwcrLinux> _jason: now which one I can open it?
[04:10] <avinoam> amphi firestarter will edit iptables right?
[04:11] <_jason> ScreaminIke: enjoy: http://doc.novsu.ac.ru/oreilly/unix/sedawk/index.htm
[04:11] <amphi> avinoam: I've never used it
[04:11] <ScreaminIke> thanx, kingspawn
[04:11] <kingspawn> ScreaminIke: or emacs file | Mx replace-string RET string RET to-stirng CxCs
[04:11] <interneti> yes avinoam
[04:11] <mwe> ScreaminIke: sed -i 's/remove_me//' file.txt
[04:11] <hyphenated> mwe: /g :-)
[04:11] <mwe> hyphenated: yeah
[04:11] <mwe> ScreaminIke: sed -i 's/remove_me//g' file.txt
[04:11] <_jason> PwcrLinux: sound and video > gxine
[04:11] <avinoam> amphi how do i edit iptables to allow piong?
[04:12] <interneti> kingspawn you checked it out (the link)
[04:12] <avinoam> *ping
[04:12] <PwcrLinux> okay
[04:12] <mwe> ScreaminIke: to do it globablly
[04:12] <kingspawn> interneti: please give it again, things that arent directed to me usually escapes me on this channel
[04:12] <amphi> avinoam: man iptables ;)
[04:12] <Tim> Hi, I just installed Ubuntu and when I try to log in xserver crashes and my flat panel starts auto adjusting, please help
[04:12] <amphi> avinoam: netfilter.org has good iptables docs too
[04:12] <kingspawn> amphi: my man
[04:12] <interneti> kingspawn http://www.nubuntu.org/
[04:13] <avinoam> amphi prob. is that i can't get onto that website if i don't have internet
[04:13] <PyChild> actually I'm for SciTE but to each its own
[04:13] <PyChild> talking about vi... who is interested in a 'Zenburn' theme for SciTE?
[04:13] <PyChild> ubotu: well I intent to use it in ubuntu so it sort of applies
[04:13] <ubotu> PyChild: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:13] <orbin> Tim: reconfigure the x server: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:13] <kingspawn> interneti: eh. hm. id rather go with debian, which i run on my servers
[04:13] <bimberi> ubotu tell PyChild about yourself
[04:13] <Tim> I have no idea how to do that
[04:13] <interneti> its a live cd lol
[04:13] <Cashel> Tim: ctrl alt f2 to get into command line mode.... login, then 'sudo killall gdm' ... then do what orbin just said... although I was going to say manualy edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf yourself...
[04:13] <kingspawn> interneti: go with regular ubuntu for your desktop machines
[04:14] <interneti> kingspawn its a live cd that has a pretty nove array of "security tools"
[04:14] <interneti> *nice
[04:14] <amphi> Tim: sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove perhaps
[04:14] <Cashel> ahhh so thats the right way to do that
[04:15] <PyChild> Well thanks I think I should go for emacs, I mean, it probably has a mind mapping macro in there :P
[04:15] <kingspawn> interneti: what do you use the security tools for?
[04:15] <PwcrLinux> _jason: Kernel version-OK, MTRR-OK, CDROM-Failed, DVD-OK, DMA mode-Failed, X11-OK and Mit xv-OK
[04:15] <Cashel> I just made an /etc/init.d/unused directory, hehe...
[04:15] <kingspawn> interneti: on a pc thats not constantly up, that is
[04:15] <_jason> PwcrLinux: ok?
[04:15] <PwcrLinux> _jason: setup wizards
[04:15] <mwe> amphi: or use rcconf so it doesn't forget what runlevels and SXX number it had if you decide to put it back
[04:15] <interneti> I thought it was an interesting concept is all
[04:16] <ozo> :) bye se you later
[04:16] <interneti> I googled it by mistake one day
[04:16] <_jason> PwcrLinux: and does your media play?
[04:16] <neurosis> anyone here using bastille?
[04:16] <kingspawn> Cashel: you go, girl
[04:16] <Tim> thanks!
[04:16] <PwcrLinux> okay hold on
[04:16] <interneti> amphi is gdm or kdm better in your opinion (even though they essentially do the same things)
[04:16] <amphi> mwe: there's that - by default runlevels 2-5 are identical
[04:16] <amphi> interneti: I don't use any ?dm
[04:16] <mwe> amphi: I know
[04:16] <AnsiC> hello
[04:16] <Cashel> kingspawn: I'm a guy, but thank you for your support...
[04:17] <mwe> amphi: but the SXX numbers are lost
[04:17] <kingspawn> interneti: you seem to be secuirity oriented - dont use x
[04:17] <AnsiC> i use the editor "JED" from 2 years
[04:17] <kingspawn> Cashel: just fuckin' around, sorry
[04:17] <mwe> amphi: that is the startup order could get screwed
[04:17] <interneti> lol kingspawn
[04:17] <Cashel> kingspawn: no worries :P
[04:17] <AnsiC> but the editor do not show the number lines
[04:17] <interneti> kingspawn x is satan huh?
[04:17] <AnsiC> line namber
[04:18] <kingspawn> interneti: no, not necessarily, but if you are running something that is very security oriented, why do you need x?
[04:18] <kingspawn> interneti: desktop can never be safe.
[04:18] <amphi> mwe: true - I don't know if update-rc.d stores default SXX for each init script
[04:18] <mwe> amphi: it doesn't
[04:18] <interneti> kingspawn I realized that much lol
[04:18] <mwe> amphi: it adds the service to some default if you don't specify
[04:19] <amphi> mwe: o, well
[04:19] <kingspawn> interneti: so my suggestion is: go with debian stable for you security needs
[04:19] <kingspawn> interneti: else, ubuntu is great for desktop
[04:19] <PwcrLinux> _jason: it's works!
[04:19] <amphi> mwe: an opportunity to use one's 'skill and judgement' ;)
[04:19] <VR_> does ubuntu come with any cmd-line based web browser??
[04:19] <_jason> PwcrLinux: great
[04:19] <kingspawn> VR_: go for w3m
[04:20] <amphi> VR_: lynx, w3m
[04:20] <mwe> amphi: my life is too short to micromange everything :|
[04:20] <kingspawn> VR_: aint nothing like textmode
[04:20] <VR_> yessir
[04:20] <unity> hey, when i do lpr, something is a bit unsettling to me, how does lpr know which printer i want to print to?
[04:20] <interneti> kingspawn have a great evening/early morning
[04:20] <interneti> cheers
[04:20] <PwcrLinux> _jason: How I set the default to gxine?
[04:20] <VR_> thanks amphi, kingspawn
[04:20] <kingspawn> interneti: thanks, you too
[04:20] <unity> man lpr is a bit vague on the subject
[04:21] <intelikey> anybody good with networking, care to walk me through a laplink setup between two ub boxes ?
[04:21] <_jason> PwcrLinux: you mean when you pop in a dvd?
[04:21] <Alexi5> hello i want to use use oracle as a database,i was wondering if oracle works on ubuntu
[04:21] <PwcrLinux> _jason: yes
[04:21] <mwe> amphi: but sure. or just make the symlinks by hand like in the old days
[04:21] <unity> like lpr -P <name> names a priner but how can i get a list of available priner
[04:21] <slavik> Alexi5: does oracle work on linux?
[04:21] <kingspawn> intelikey: does laplink involve wireless?
[04:21] <_jason> PwcrLinux: system > prefernces > removable drives and media
[04:21] <kingspawn> mwe: the old days? pff.
[04:21] <kingspawn> mwe: dont tell me cmdline isnt more effective than point-and-click
[04:21] <intelikey> second question anyway to keep the cdrom icon from poping up on the desktop ?
[04:22] <intelikey> kingspawn :)
[04:22] <amphi> there is no window manager but gnu screen ;)
[04:22] <slavik> intelikey: why?
[04:22] <carthik> intelikey, system-preferences-removable drives and devices
[04:22] <kingspawn> amphi: MY MAN!
[04:22] <mwe> kingspawn: heh. so you make symlinks to startup scripts with ln -s if you add a service?
[04:22] <PwcrLinux> _jason: okay let me look at it
[04:22] <PyChild> mwe depends a lot on the task, habits and what is already set up in front of you
[04:22] <kingspawn> mwe: yes
[04:22] <wastrel> ok now i have the printer working on my desktop, & i want to print to it from the laptop - how do i do that?
[04:22] <intelikey> carthik  thank you.
[04:22] <kingspawn> mwe: i do <something> in textmode.
[04:22] <kingspawn> always.
[04:23] <mwe> kingspawn: rcconf is textmode
[04:23] <kingspawn> mwe: since it is 70%faster
[04:23] <unity> wastrel: share it over http
[04:23] <PyChild> ok thanks
[04:23] <wastrel> unity:  how do i do that?
[04:23] <carthik> wastrel, if they are on the same network, set it up as a cups IPP printer and then use that.
[04:23] <kingspawn> mwe: no problem. i'll have an assembler-app for you in textmode in a day
[04:23] <unity> wastrel: look at http://localhost:631 you will get that same interfage
[04:23] <unity> interface
[04:23] <kingspawn> mwe: there is nothing that wm's can do that isnt faster in textmode
[04:23] <amphi> mwe: I've used rcconf before - it's quite nice, a lot less messy than symlink farms
[04:23] <carthik> wastrel, search on google for cups ipp printer setup help or something
[04:23] <mwe> kingspawn: you and you assembler :)
[04:23] <PwcrLinux> _jason: I found DVD command box, which the filename need to be in?
[04:23] <intelikey> now anybody know laplink ?
[04:23] <kingspawn> mwe: its the truth, though
[04:23] <Cashel> interesting.. may check it out someday... http://www.oracle.com/technologies/linux/index.html
[04:23] <_jason> PwcrLinux: change totem to gxine
[04:23] <kingspawn> mwe: i can give ytou the same apps in c, c++ or python
[04:24] <Alexi5> slavik:i was thinking of recommending ubuntu to be used as a linux os to house oracle
[04:24] <kingspawn> mwe: they'llbe 10x as fast as window mangager
[04:24] <kingspawn> manager*
[04:24] <mwe> kingspawn: I ran linux without X for about 2 years
[04:24] <wastrel> i can talk to the remote printer but i don't have the right configurations, because the drivers are on the other system.
[04:24] <kingspawn> mwe: should have used that time for learning at&t assembler
[04:24] <unity> wastrel: currently, only localhost is allowed to view that printing interface, a small change in cupsd.conf will allow that interface to be used across the local network
[04:24] <carthik> mwe, i was a vegan for 10 years, what is the point?
[04:24] <amphi> mwe: it took that long to figure out the modelines? ;)
[04:24] <kingspawn> mwe: would have saved you so much time
[04:24] <PwcrLinux> _jason: done
[04:24] <mwe> kingspawn: I know assembler
[04:24] <_jason> PwcrLinux: yep
[04:25] <wastrel> i just want to send jobs to the remote system.
[04:25] <kingspawn> mwe: and still we are having the wm versus textmode discussion?
[04:25] <mwe> kingspawn: I'm not saying wms are superiour
[04:25] <PwcrLinux> _jason: Hmm I press the eject button doesn't comes out and I must use a mouse to eject it out..
[04:25] <_jason> PwcrLinux: yes
[04:25] <UbuntuNewbie> just read the boot camp info. from apple's web site
[04:26] <kingspawn> mwe: i know :)
[04:26] <kingspawn> mwe: of course they are more practical
[04:26] <PwcrLinux> _jason: seem work prefectly :)
[04:26] <kingspawn> mwe: just that i have already gotten all the tools i need ti make textmode 10x faster
[04:26] <orbin> carthik: what did you eat/drink that broke the run?
[04:26] <kingspawn> mwe: like copy using only kernel mode calls
[04:27] <mwe> kingspawn: heh
[04:27] <carthik> orbin, beef
[04:27] <tRSS> hi everyone. I am able to mount my hfsplus partition but I can't write to it?
[04:27] <wastrel> i can set up a new printer locally to print to the remote system but i don't have the proper drivers locally so the printouts are messed up
[04:27] <Keyseir> hey. i'm running ubuntu and i suddenly can't use any keys like alt,shift,ctrl
[04:27] <kingspawn> mwe: but no doubt, ubuntu is still a great desktop os
[04:27] <wastrel> how do i just send jobs to the remote system and have the drivers there used?
[04:27] <Keyseir> i have vmware running and i can use those keys within vmware, but nothing on ubuntu
[04:27] <mwe> kingspawn: yeah good old cp is way to high level
[04:27] <PwcrLinux> _jason: I popped the DVD in and it's auto opening gxine
[04:27] <kingspawn> mwe: i never meant to sound harsh, hope you didnt take me that way
[04:27] <Keyseir> restart solves this problem, but i don't know what it is.
[04:27] <mwe> kingspawn: not really
[04:27] <kingspawn> mwe: cp is slooow ;)
[04:27] <carthik> wastrel, i already said how - i have got it working at the office, which is why i said what i said
[04:28] <kingspawn> mwe: anything using libc is just a dread
[04:28] <tRSS> how can I write to the hfsplus partition? I am able to mount it. my /etc/fstab: "/dev/hda1       /media/macdesk  hfsplus rw,user        0       0
[04:28] <tRSS> "
[04:28] <wastrel> carthik:  i did set it up as cups IPP printer, i created a new printer on my laptop and pointed it at the desktop print queue but it still asks for a local driver file
[04:28] <mwe> kingspawn: I think the hdd speed is the bottle neck is case of copy
[04:28] <Keyseir> i'm running ubuntu and i suddently can't use any keys such as alt, shift, ctrl. i have vmware running and i can use those keys within vmware, but nothing on linux. restart solves this problem, but i don't know what the problem is and i'd like an alternate option. can anyone help
[04:29] <kingspawn> mwe: yeah, that is so true. hdd's are so horrendously slow. but take a look at libc from version 1 to current
[04:29] <kingspawn> mwe: its getting so bloated and slow its actually a problem
[04:29] <carthik> wastrel, well, you will have to setup that local driver file
[04:30] <tRSS> anyone? help?
[04:30] <kingspawn> mwe: calling the kernel directly from asm takes about 50 bytes, calling the equiv. libc-function takes about 700 bytes now, approaching 800
[04:30] <Cashel> Keyseir: its been awhile since I played with vmware, but doesnt it have some sort of focusing deal that does that? You should search the documentation about it...
[04:30] <mwe> kingspawn: well good night
[04:31] <arrick> what is a good ftp server in ubuntu?
[04:31] <arrick> good noght mwe
[04:31] <kingspawn> mwe: night
[04:31] <arrick> get some sleep
[04:31] <arrick> night
[04:31] <carthik> wastrel, follow http://occy.net/printing
[04:31] <_jason> !ftp
[04:31] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: vsftpd, proftpd
[04:31] <kingspawn> arrick: proftpd is nice
[04:31] <carthik> wastrel, follow http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=163882 too
[04:31] <arrick> thanks
[04:31] <kingspawn> arrick: if you were thinking of servers
[04:31] <Keyseir> cashel - i'll try turning off vmware and looking into the documentation. i don't think it was that as i wasn't messing with it at the time, but it certainly could be. i'm using vmware tools so i think all that stuff is controlled by mouseover... thanks
[04:32] <arrick> kingspawn, I already have a ubuntu/apache server setup, I want to add ftp to it now
[04:32] <Titan> I need help. I play WoW in linux using wine but am having some problems recently. I just need to be able to boot back into my windows partition untill I can figure out how to fix WoW on linux. I am running a Lilo boot loader, is there anyone that can help me configure my lilo so I can boot back into windoze?
[04:32] <dominic_> hi people gud morning
[04:32] <dominic_> were i can get font utopia
[04:32] <PwcrLinux> _jason: Hmmm my dvd seem little paused every seconds, Should i need to turn on the DMA?
[04:32] <kingspawn> arrick: yes, then proftpd should be for you...
[04:32] <dominic_> like wget
[04:32] <arrick> ok
[04:32] <_jason> ubotu: tell PwcrLinux about dma
[04:32] <_jason> PwcrLinux: yeah
[04:32] <dominic_> its required in my scribus
[04:33] <dominic_> font utopia bold
[04:33] <arrick> kingspawn, can you help me get it and install it?
[04:34] <kingspawn> arrick: first, try "sudo apt-get install proftpd"
[04:34] <arrick> ok
[04:34] <dominic_> some can help regarding vlc
[04:34] <kingspawn> arrick: the "d" at the end means "daemon", meaning it will run all the time
[04:34] <dominic_> somebody can help me regarding vlc
[04:34] <dominic_> over my netowrk
[04:34] <diesel> kingspawn: you prefer proftpd over vsftpd?
[04:34] <dominic_> like rtsp
[04:34] <arrick> ok
[04:35] <dominic_> which mean i had my music server full of mp3 song which run under windows xp
[04:35] <eternex> what does this mean?   "...loading libGL.so.1: Segmentation fault"
[04:35] <dominic_> and i have a client
[04:35] <dominic_> installed ubuntu
[04:35] <arrick> !enter
[04:35] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[04:35] <dominic_> and i want to use vlc
[04:35] <kingspawn> diesel: i am most used to proftpd, but objectively i'd like to run ssl-ftp
[04:35] <arrick> ok, kingspawn its installed
[04:36] <dominic_> to play my favorite mp3 on the music server
[04:36] <arrick> now to setup
[04:36] <dominic_> pls. help me
[04:36] <kingspawn> dominic_: help.ubuntu.com has lots. search for "restrictedformats"
[04:36] <kingspawn> or:
[04:36] <kingspawn> !restrictedformates
[04:36] <ubotu> kingspawn: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:36] <kingspawn> eg
[04:36] <kingspawn> !restrictedformats
[04:36] <ubotu> rumour has it, restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[04:36] <kingspawn> i am just retarded
[04:36] <dominic_> oo those files is ogg
[04:36] <kingspawn> yeah
[04:36] <kingspawn> use ogg
[04:37] <dominic_> and i download also mad
[04:37] <kingspawn> delete all your mp3s and use ogg
[04:37] <kingspawn> mp3s are evil and stupid
[04:37] <amphi> 'ear 'ear!
[04:37] <dominic_> o no my xmms can play mp3
[04:37] <dominic_> my vlc can play mp3
[04:37] <kingspawn> dominic_: it can.
[04:37] <dominic_> but not on the network
[04:37] <kingspawn> dominic_: doesnt mean that you should, though
[04:37] <amphi> dominic_: mp3 is t3h 3vi1
[04:37] <kingspawn> dominic_: stallman would shoot yo
[04:37] <kingspawn> u
[04:37] <eternex> ...loading libGL.so.1: Segmentation fault, can someone help me?
[04:38] <wastrel> carthik:  the client.conf thing is what i needed.
[04:38] <dominic_> my problem is do i need to copy all those ogg files on my server which run under xp
[04:38] <carthik> wastrel, cool
[04:38] <Maver> anyone aware of a good subversion or cvs gui front end for gnome?
[04:38] <amphi> hmm, does ubuntu package vrms? ;)
[04:38] <dominic_> is i copy the file ogg from the server
[04:38] <dominic_> yes i can play it
[04:38] <dominic_> but any idea
[04:38] <dominic_> that i dont nid to copy it
[04:39] <dominic_> just simply broswe and play
[04:39] <dominic_> my favorite ogg file
[04:39] <arrick> kingspawn, what is the next step, I read man proftpd, and it is really falling short
[04:39] <kingspawn> arrick: its not falling short in any way. can you "ftp localhost"?
[04:39] <NsOmNiAc> ok that was interesting
[04:39] <arrick> ok thanks
[04:39] <eternex> do you guys use 64bit ubuntu or 32bit?
[04:40] <NsOmNiAc> just used the upgrade script
[04:40] <reda_ea> Maver: http://gnomefiles.org/subcategory.php?sub_cat_id=59
[04:40] <arrick> ok kingspawn the connection to the server was reset, what have I done wrong?
[04:40] <kingspawn> dominic_: dont ever use mp3 again.
[04:40] <reda_ea> :D
[04:40] <kingspawn> dominic_: its copyrighted, its ugly, and its bad at searching
[04:40] <tapox> I'm on a laptop, and my HD seems to be spinning up and down a whole lot. Is this healthy for it?
[04:40] <dominic_> no i hav also ogg
[04:41] <kingspawn> dominic_: great! :)
[04:41] <dominic_> music in my server
[04:41] <kingspawn> dominic_: go with ogg from now!
[04:41] <Tim> Hi, I tryed the advice I got earlyer and when xserver crashes I get a fatal server error "caught signal 11 server aborting"
[04:41] <tapox> kingspawn, it's patented, not copyrighted. two different things :-P
[04:41] <amphi> tapox: you can adjust the spindown timeout with hdparm
[04:41] <dominic_> yes
[04:41] <tapox> amphi: how do I go about doing that?
[04:41] <Nto-> i just made som wallpapers (win, ubu, kubu), check em out http://www.seaside.se/~sea0548a/wallpapers/
[04:41] <dominic_> but what my problems is i cant play over the network
[04:41] <amphi> tapox: man hdparm has the grisly details
[04:42] <kingspawn> tapox: true.. :)
[04:42] <kingspawn> tapox: my point holds, though: dont ever use that shit.
[04:42] <tescoil> Rudimentary stuff, but what's the command for upgrading a deb package when you have the new file already downloaded?
[04:42] <eternex> lol type "glxgears" into terminal
[04:42] <tonyyarusso> Can Gaim play different sounds for different contacts messaging you?
[04:42] <amphi> dominic_: mp3 is cbr, which is retarded
[04:42] <amphi> eternex: why?
[04:42] <eternex> why not
[04:42] <_jason> Nto-: I see you are putting the font to good use :) nice work
[04:42] <Tim> Hi, I tryed the advice I got earlyer and when xserver crashes I get a fatal server error "caught signal 11 server aborting"
[04:43] <eternex> just some cool animation
[04:43] <theripper> what driver should i use for radeon mobility 9000?
[04:43] <amphi> eternex: because I already know what my pitiful framerate is
[04:43] <Tim> i could use some help
[04:43] <eternex> oh
[04:43] <eternex> then dont
[04:43] <dominic_> anybody can help me how can i play my ogg music over my server
[04:43] <dominic_> music server
[04:44] <dominic_> my server run under xp and my client using ubuntu 5.10
[04:44] <amphi> theripper: that appears to be fully supported by the xorg radeon driver - no need for fglrx horror
[04:44] <dominic_> i used ubuntu 5.10
[04:44] <amphi> eternex: celestia has some rather cooler animation ;)
[04:45] <theripper> ampi is that built into ubuntu as default install?
[04:45] <kingspawn> dominic_: are you using nfs?
[04:45] <dominic_> samba
[04:45] <dominic_> smfs
[04:45] <kingspawn> dominic_: ah, you need samba compatibility
[04:45] <dominic_> smbfs
[04:45] <kingspawn> :)
[04:45] <eternex> amphi: sorry but i dont know what celestia is, newb to linux
[04:45] <kingspawn> dominic_: i suggest you convert you server to linusx
[04:45] <UbuntuNewbie> i have a question regarding partition size
[04:45] <murph2481> how can i see a list of currently running programs so I can kill one kinda like task manager in windows??
[04:45] <kingspawn> and have your machine access the linux samba
[04:45] <amphi> theripper: yes - dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and choose radeon as the driver - but make sure it's not using it already perhaps
[04:46] <dominic_> my some other files in my server like documents i can broswe it
[04:46] <amphi> eternex: it's but an 'apt-get install celestia' away - it's a solar system emulator, damn good IMHO
[04:46] <dominic_> kingspawn thanks again
[04:46] <reda_ea> murph2481: use the task manager of gnome
[04:46] <dominic_> but my server runs in dual boot
[04:46] <Tim> Hi, I tryed the advice I got earlyer and when xserver crashes I get a fatal server error "caught signal 11 server aborting"
[04:46] <ReWT_AxS> !ati
[04:46] <ubotu> I heard ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[04:46] <dominic_> fedora and xp
[04:46] <UbuntuNewbie> if you partition 18g as /root
[04:46] <murph2481> :( I am running kubuntu
[04:46] <arrick> ok kingspawn the connection to the server was reset, what have I done wrong?
[04:46] <murph2481> gotta be something simular
[04:46] <Titan> I need help. I play WoW in linux using wine but am having some problems recently. I just need to be able to boot back into my windows partition untill I can figure out how to fix WoW on linux. I am running a Lilo boot loader, is there anyone that can help me configure my lilo so I can boot back into windoze?
[04:46] <theripper> ampi : im kind of new to linux , where do i look that up
[04:46] <arrick> pwease
[04:47] <eternex> amphi: nice
[04:47] <reda_ea> murph2481: kde also has its task manager
[04:47] <UbuntuNewbie> does other mount e.g. /bin adjust itself
[04:47] <kingspawn> dominic_: the best choice is almost always having your linux be server, and your xp being the client
[04:47] <murph2481> reda_ea where? :)
[04:47] <reda_ea> murph2481: try ctrl+alt+escape or something like this
[04:47] <dominic_> oo really
[04:47] <amphi> eternex: if you like such things, then you may also like stellarium; apt-cache show celestia and apt-cache show stellarium will give some info about them
[04:47] <ReWT_AxS> !ati
[04:47] <ubotu> I heard ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[04:48] <dominic_> thanks kingspawn but my parents like windows
[04:48] <dominic_> i cant switch them to linux
[04:48] <murph2481> reda_ea that is to close an open program this program i want to kill has no window
[04:48] <dominic_> their too old
[04:48] <Tim> Hi, I tryed the advice I got earlyer and when xserver crashes I get a fatal server error "caught signal 11 server aborting"
[04:48] <dominic_> and they love music
[04:48] <kingspawn> dominic_: no doubt, but you could still make the server linux..
[04:48] <kingspawn> dominic_: they would never know
[04:48] <amphi> dominic_: as someone so poignantly remarked, ""The only sensible way to estimate the stability of a Windows is to power it down and try it out as a step ladder" ;)
[04:48] <Tim> THen it says on the screen it finds no screen
[04:48] <reda_ea> murph2481: or you can do it from console if you know your programs name
[04:49] <eternex> amphi: do you use 64 bit ubuntu or 62 bit?
[04:49] <reda_ea> murph2481: killall program_name
[04:49] <amphi> eternex: 62 bit ;)
[04:49] <amphi> dominic_: er, "windows server"
[04:49] <kingspawn> the any way to test something is doing it step by step
[04:49] <eternex> amphi: how 62?
[04:49] <kingspawn> dominic_: linux is usually step by step better
[04:49] <isandir> hey guys i think i messed up my /etc/passwd file can anyone show me an example entry for a regular ubuntu user?
[04:49] <amphi> eternex> amphi: do you use 64 bit ubuntu or 62 bit?
[04:50] <murph2481> reda_ea how can i get a list of whats running?
[04:50] <reda_ea> murph2481: ps
[04:50] <amphi> eternex: actually, I'm on debian ATM *cough*
[04:50] <eternex> amphi: oh whoops 64 or 32
[04:50] <isandir> ps aux will show you all the processes
[04:50] <amphi> eternex: and on 32-bit proc
[04:50] <reda_ea> murph2481: or    ps aux        for everything from all users
[04:50] <eternex> amphi: oh ok
[04:50] <isandir> reda_ea do you have a moment?
[04:50] <dominic_> yes i hate microsoft
[04:50] <bimberi> isandir: dsymons:x:1000:1000:David Symons,,,:/home/dsymons:/bin/bash
[04:51] <dominic_> thats why i installed ubuntu
[04:51] <Tim> Hi, I tryed the advice I got earlyer and when xserver crashes I get a fatal server error "caught signal 11 server aborting"
[04:51] <isandir> thanks bim
[04:51] <amphi> dominic_: just ignore them, and they'll go away
[04:51] <dominic_> and istarted working on it
[04:51] <bimberi> isandir: np :)
[04:51] <reda_ea> murph2481:  ps aux | grep firefox         will show you only firefox instances for examples
[04:51] <dominic_> do you want to watch my video campaign
[04:51] <dominic_> regarding ubuntu green
[04:51] <dominic_> ubuntu means humanity to others
[04:51] <dominic_> green means life
[04:51] <eternex> amphi: im probably going to have to install the 32bit ubuntu, since i cant get alot of things working
[04:52] <dominic_> many of my friends campaigning for that
[04:52] <bimberi> commas mean less spam
[04:52] <PwcrLinux> _jason: how I can find my CD param line like as hdc or what?
[04:52] <KyrinComaBlack> i got a question why does my machine freeze when u but it it freezes at loading hotplugs system
[04:52] <amphi> eternex: you're sure bitness is the cause of the problems?
[04:52] <dominic_> wer poor filipinos
[04:52] <Intangir> how do I install nvidia-glx drivers for a the -k7 kernel
[04:52] <dominic_> were poor filipinos
[04:52] <Intangir> it only installs for 386 apparently
[04:52] <dominic_> but wer spending our time to share
[04:52] <kingspawn> amphi: i just /whois'ed you..
[04:52] <dominic_> and teach people
[04:52] <eternex> amphi: bitness?
[04:52] <_jason> PwcrLinux: check /etc/fstab to see where it is getting mounted
[04:52] <neurosis> anyone here using bastille?
[04:52] <eternex> amphi: oh, yeah
[04:52] <mindmime> hi
[04:52] <isandir> bimberi now i have to remember not to change my password to something i can't remember and then delete myself from passwd :P
[04:53] <dominic_> if want my movie clip
[04:53] <amphi> kingspawn: many thanks ;)
[04:53] <murph2481> reda_ea crap i have a VLC window running and its playing music, but i cannot get it to stop
[04:53] <mindmime> other than minicom, what is a good terminal emulation program to use?
[04:53] <Tim> Hi, I tryed the advice I got earlyer and when xserver crashes I get a fatal server error "caught signal 11 server aborting"
[04:53] <kingspawn> amphi: :))
[04:53] <bimberi> isandir: :)
[04:53] <murph2481> grepping for VLC i get nothing but its playing music
[04:53] <kingspawn> mindmime: what do you mean? terminal doesnt do it for you?
[04:53] <PwcrLinux> _jason: fstab in the terminal box?
[04:53] <reda_ea> murph2481: killall vlc dont work ?
[04:53] <isandir> bimberi: oh it worked, cheers!
[04:53] <eternex> amphi: it is for this game i play, and i think id have a better chance getting wine working with 32 bit
[04:53] <kingspawn> eternex: you must never play games.
[04:54] <dominic_> hi hi
[04:54] <bimberi> isandir: ah, good, i was going to point you to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LostPassword
[04:54] <zack> so, a server that i use regularly had its IP changed. 'host foo' returns the wrong IP address, but 'ping foo' and 'mutt -f imaps://foo' fail. what's the problem here?
[04:54] <reda_ea> murph2481: run     xkill         then click on the window
[04:54] <eternex> why not?
[04:54] <muffi1> does anybody know how to get Chowder to run with wine?
[04:54] <dominic_> can u help me about vlc
[04:54] <amphi> eternex: yeah, abandon games - you can always hack up one of you're own in svgalib or summat
[04:54] <murph2481> reda_ea VLC: no process killed
[04:54] <kingspawn> eternex: because you could be learning something and evolving.
[04:54] <_jason> PwcrLinux: gedit /etc/fstab
[04:54] <isandir> bimberi well i lost the password but i know enough about linux to shoot myself in the foot, i rebooted into single user mode and tried to manually edit the passwd file :p
[04:54] <dominic_> kingspawn if you like to watch my video clip
[04:54] <amphi> eternex: or there's a nice ncurses z-machine interpreter for infocom-style text games...
[04:54] <eternex> well im actually learning how to design levels for games right now
[04:55] <dominic_> go ahead and ask me
[04:55] <reda_ea> murph2481: tri ps aux | grep vlc
[04:55] <kingspawn> dominic_: with an easily available clip, sure
[04:55] <dominic_> i heartly send it to you
[04:55] <dominic_> you hav gaim
[04:55] <reda_ea> murph2481: and tell what it says
[04:55] <dominic_> can i pm u in gaim
[04:55] <Krollian> Hey, who feels like helping a newbie with ubuntu?
[04:55] <amphi> dominic_: I'm on dialup, so I cannot avail myself of your offer
[04:55] <isandir> krollian what do you need?
[04:55] <dominic_> ok
[04:55] <eternex> and ive tried to learn how to program i got nowhere
[04:55] <amphi> Krollian: just ask your question
[04:55] <dominic_> iam broadband
[04:55] <dominic_> dsl
[04:56] <dominic_> your location anyway
[04:56] <eternex> cable here
[04:56] <kingspawn> dominic_: i was hoping to get it off the web
[04:56] <muffi1> ...
[04:56] <reda_ea> Krollian: dont ask if u can ask .. just ask
[04:56] <dominic_> ahh k
[04:56] <arrick> !pastebin
[04:56] <ubotu> pastebin is probably http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[04:56] <Krollian> I made a live disk of 5.10 but when I run it it says that somethings wrong with my video driver
[04:56] <PwcrLinux> _jason: /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[04:56] <murph2481> reda_ea you are my hero!
[04:56] <reda_ea> murph2481: :D
[04:56] <murph2481> reda_ea found it and killed it thanks :)
[04:56] <Krollian> I think I need the newest x windows but I have do idea how to do that
[04:56] <eternex> what do you suggest i learn kingspawn?
[04:56] <mindmime> I mean to connect to a router/switch console port
[04:56] <murph2481> reda_ea now where is the built in task manager to KDE?
[04:57] <dominic_> kingspawn i'am looking an average programmer of  gambas
[04:57] <dominic_> i nid an help
[04:57] <Krollian> I don't understand linux stuff at all
[04:57] <dominic_> regarding my programm
[04:57] <dominic_> about
[04:57] <kingspawn> eternex: i suggest you get started with ... perhaps python, for an easy introduction to programmging
[04:57] <reda_ea> murph2481: google for it
[04:57] <kingspawn> eternex: and then you move on to c
[04:57] <kingspawn> eternex: and c++
[04:57] <dominic_> internet cafe monitoring system build by gambas
[04:57] <eternex> do they have python for linux?
[04:57] <dominic_> like time-in and time-out system
[04:58] <kingspawn> eternex: and of course, assembler for those ugly parts of your program
[04:58] <Krollian> If there was just a regular install file of x windows...
[04:58] <dominic_> automatic billing
[04:58] <bimberi> eternex: absolutely - installed by default too
[04:58] <kingspawn> eternex: ubuntu comes with python default
[04:58] <eternex> ewww
[04:58] <eternex> fun
[04:58] <kingspawn> eternex: just type "python"
[04:58] <amphi> eternex: K&R!
[04:58] <ubuntu_rules> !offtopic
[04:58] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[04:58] <kingspawn> amphi: hahaha
[04:58] <eternex> amphi: K&R?
[04:59] <kingspawn> amphi: screw k&r, they are fuckin crazy
[04:59] <PwcrLinux> Brb-- store run..
[04:59] <madewokherd> did someone say language war?
[04:59] <kingspawn> eternex: refers to "kernighan and ritchie" the "originators" of c and c-code-syntax
[04:59] <PwcrLinux> !language
[04:59] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[04:59] <dominic_> anybody can help me to share a code i hav a project like internet cafe monitoring system build by gambas
[04:59] <ubuntu_rules> !anyone
[04:59] <reda_ea> murph2481: maybe ktop ??
[04:59] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[04:59] <kingspawn> PwcrLinux-Brb: yeah yeah...
[04:59] <dominic_> anybody can help me to share a code i hav a project like internet cafe monitoring system build by gambas.
[04:59] <kingspawn> dominic_: www.pastebin.com is you have code to share
[05:00] <amphi> eternex: _the_ c book, by them as perpetrated it - if you want something more exotic, there's INTERCAL; the tritwise operators are something to behold, and you'll fall in love with the 'interleave' operator ;)
[05:00] <reda_ea> kingspawn: I think he meant share it for a long time like on a server or something
[05:00] <reda_ea> dominic_: sourceforge ??
[05:00] <kingspawn> reda_ea: oh, my bad.. :)
[05:00] <Krollian> Is there an install file of the latest version of x windows?
[05:00] <kingspawn> amphi: i f'n hate k&r :)
[05:01] <arrick> ok kingspawn I get this error when trying to connect to the ftp host. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11557
[05:01] <kingspawn> Krollian: you might need to look at xfree.org
[05:01] <eternex> amphi: so sorry i dont know what your talking about really, too noob to understand
[05:01] <kingspawn> Krollian: or xfree86.org :)
[05:01] <isandir> night all
[05:01] <reda_ea> Krollian: if you're in ubuntu  you already HAVE the lastest version
[05:01] <kingspawn> hhe
[05:01] <kingspawn> eternex: what kind of experience have you got with programming?
[05:02] <Krollian> I burnt a live cd and no, it doesn't have the latest version
[05:02] <kingspawn> eternex: i assume ubuntu is your first linux installation?
[05:02] <eternex> kingspawn: yes
[05:02] <murph2481> reda_e: KsysGuard - Process Table thank you :)
[05:02] <amphi> eternex: actually, if you want to try a language that looks _extremely_ nice, try limbo - see http://www.vitanuova.com/l
[05:02] <amphi> arrg
[05:02] <amphi> eternex: http://www.vitanuova.com/inferno/limbo.html
[05:02] <reda_ea> Krollian: oh .. in live cd you cant install stuff permanently
[05:02] <murph2481> its part of dapper's KDE bundle
[05:02] <reda_ea> Krollian: just install it on you pc and it will auto update
[05:02] <eternex> kingspawn: i know some web design
[05:03] <kingspawn> eternex: like html and css?
[05:03] <eternex> no css
[05:03] <eternex> html and a little php
[05:03] <akcom> is there a known problem with WMV's where only audio is played, but not video?
[05:03] <eternex> never got very good at it though
[05:03] <ubuntu_rules> eternex, try asking about some low level programming in channel #python...
[05:03] <Krollian> reda: ok, question.  Can I install it on a seperate drive without it screwing with my windows setup?
[05:03] <kingspawn> eternex: okay. what do you want to do with programming? what kind of apps do you want to create?
[05:03] <arrick> I get the following erreor using proftpd http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11557
[05:03] <arrick> please help
[05:04] <ubuntu_rules> python is relatively easy to understand
[05:04] <ubuntu_rules> very straight foward
[05:04] <kingspawn> arrick: have you set up samba correctly?
[05:04] <amphi> eternex: this is a damn good programming book IMHO: http://mitpress.mit.edu/sicp/full-text/book/book.html
[05:04] <arrick> kingspawn, I dont ave samba
[05:04] <amphi> eternex: you can d/l the whole thing from there
[05:04] <kingspawn> python is very nice, especially as a substitude for bashscript
[05:05] <kingspawn> arrick: and you are wondering why windows cant connect?
[05:05] <eternex> kingspawn: well since ive been trying to do game design, i thought i could make a better level design program
[05:05] <arrick> yeah
[05:05] <UbuntuNewbie> why can't i get radio station from Rhytmbox
[05:05] <arrick> kingspawn, yeah
[05:05] <Krollian> Can I install ubuntu without it interfering with my current setup?
[05:05] <kingspawn> eternex: i think there are packages for gamedesign in C atleast.. look into allegro
[05:05] <ubuntu_rules> eternex, there is also a bash-scripting 'class' in the SPM...  check under abs-class
[05:06] <kingspawn> arrick: well, you need to install samba. windows cant interact with linux except samba.. (mostly)
[05:06] <ubuntu_rules> i think
[05:06] <arrick> ok
[05:06] <Khaaaaan> hey guys.... I can't read anything on my CD drive in Xubuntu...
[05:06] <Khaaaaan> What could be up??
[05:06] <arrick> !samba
[05:06] <ubotu> somebody said samba was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[05:06] <tkup> Khaaaaan, dmesg|tail -15 and pastebin it
[05:06] <reda_ea> Khaaaaan: id it mounted ?
[05:06] <ulas_> I cant either
[05:06] <ubuntu_rules> Khaaaaan, try mounting
[05:06] <Dr_Willis> Khaaaaan,  clarify the issue.. you mean you dont have read access to it? or cant read files.. or cant see anything at all.
[05:06] <Klementas> Can I upgrade from 5.04 to dapper or do I need to upgrade to 5.10 first ??
[05:07] <Krollian> Can I install ubuntu without it affecting my current setup?
[05:07] <ulas_> Hi:
[05:07] <ulas_> I am really having problem with ubuntu cd instal on new dell e510.
[05:07] <ulas_> I installed the same cd on laptop and old dell and no problem, I loved
[05:07] <ulas_> ubuntu, still learning. I bought new dell now and tried to install,
[05:07] <ulas_> but both live cd or install cd not working. Any help really really
[05:07] <ulas_> appreciated.
[05:07] <ulas_> My dell specs:
[05:07] <ulas_> Dell Dimension E510 Series      Intel(r) Pentium(r) 4 Processor 640 w/HT
[05:07] <ulas_> Technology (3.2GHz,800FSB)
[05:07] <ubuntu_rules> !pastebin
[05:07] <ubotu> rumour has it, pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[05:07] <ulas_> Single Drive: 16X CD/DVD burner (DVD+/-RW)  (Hardware: ST380819AS,
[05:07] <ulas_> PHILIPS DVD+-RW DVD8701)
[05:07] <ubuntu_rules> !ops
[05:07] <ulas_> 128MB PCI Express x16 (DVI/VGA/TV-out) ATI Radeon X300 SE HyperMemory
[05:07] <ubotu> Help! lilo, fabbione, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee
[05:07] <ulas_> 80GB Serial ATA Hard Drive (7200RPM) w/DataBurst Cache
[05:07] <eternex> lol
[05:07] <Detrux> Hello
[05:07] <Krollian> Anyone?
[05:07] <ubuntu_rules> SYS OP NEEDED NOW PLEASE
[05:07] <UbuntuNewbie> what other program that can stream radio stations besides Rhytmbox
[05:08] <reda_ea> Khaaaaan: in xubuntu for stuff to be mounted automatically you must install ivman
[05:08] <ulas_> IN the main menu:
[05:08] <ulas_> I stuck at the 4 - Load installer components from CD
[05:08] <ulas_> 1- choose language
[05:08] <ulas_> 2- select a keyborad layout
[05:08] <ulas_> 3- detect and mount cd-rom
[05:08] <kingspawn> ubuntu_rules: calm down
[05:08] <Detrux> Could someone help me with some Ubuntu install problems? I cannot access the GUI
[05:08] <tkup> Krollian, the ubuntu website has enough information on that subject as it is. check it out. You asked an open-ended question.
[05:08] <Dr_Willis> ulas_,  perhaps rephrase the question/info in a more concise form.. would be handy.
[05:08] <ubuntu_rules> crud...  no ops?
[05:08] <kingspawn> ubuntu_rules: no reason to act
[05:08] <eternex> ulas_: its ok
[05:08] <ubuntu_rules> !tell ulas_ about pastebin
[05:08] <kingspawn> ulas_: never paste that much again
[05:08] <Detrux> Could someone help me with some Ubuntu install problems? I cannot access the GUI
[05:08] <neurosis> anyone use or know about bastille?
[05:08] <ubuntu_rules> ty nalioth
[05:09] <Khaaaaan> reda_ea how do I do that
[05:09] <nalioth> ulas_ is gone, ladies and gentlemen
[05:09] <amphi> ubuntu_rules: your cry was answered, he is no longer with us
[05:09] <kingspawn> nalioth: no reason.
[05:09] <reda_ea> Khaaaaan: use synaptic
[05:09] <Khaaaaan> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11558
[05:09] <Krollian> gee, thanks for the help
[05:09] <reda_ea> Khaaaaan: or just apt-get install ivman
[05:09] <Khaaaaan> There is my pastebin for dmesg|tail
[05:09] <Dr_Willis> Krollian,  i never saw a question.
[05:09] <amphi> Krollian: ?
[05:09] <Detrux> Could someone help me with some Ubuntu install problems? I cannot access the GUI
[05:09] <kingspawn> nalioth: that's one less user for your os.
[05:09] <Krollian> Can I install ubuntu without it affecting my current setup?
[05:09] <ubuntu_rules> pasting WAY too much...  4-5 lines? warning...  over and over? kick for a while
[05:09] <eternex> kingspawn: what OS you running?
[05:09] <Dr_Willis> Krollian,  clarify what youmean by 'current setup'
[05:09] <_jason> Krollian: what is your current setup
[05:10] <nalioth> kingspawn: i'm not comprehending
[05:10] <Xaero_Vincent> whats better Ubuntu or Kubuntu... im a Ubuntu user... but dislike the blandness of Gnome... it looks alot like Mac OS9.. i want sexy graphics that look like OS X
[05:10] <kingspawn> nalioth: ok
[05:10] <reda_ea> Krollian: you can of course (i think you mean windows)
[05:10] <kingspawn> eternex: ubutnu on desktop
[05:10] <Krollian> XP Home
[05:10] <Dr_Willis> Xaero_Vincent,  i find better luck with installing Ubuntu, then apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[05:10] <reda_ea> Krollian: just take a look at the wiki
[05:10] <_jason> ubotu: tell Krollian about dualboot
[05:10] <eternex> oh
[05:10] <Detrux> Could someone help me with some Ubuntu install problems? I cannot access the GUI
[05:10] <Khaaaaan> Should I restart to see if it worked?
[05:10] <reda_ea> Krollian: im sure youll find step by step guide for installation
[05:10] <Xaero_Vincent> i tired that and i get an error
[05:10] <Dr_Willis> Xaero_Vincent,  kde dont look like OS-X
[05:10] <kingspawn> Detrux: pose your question
[05:11] <ubuntu_rules> Detrux, installing ubuntu or aps in ubuntu?
[05:11] <kingspawn> eternex: how come you ask?
[05:11] <Dr_Willis> Xaero_Vincent,  - it works for thousands of people. :P
[05:11] <Krollian> OK, thanks
[05:11] <Khaaaaan> reda_ea, I am going to reboot now, I will let you know how it goes :)
[05:11] <amphi> Krollian: is windows using your whole hd?
[05:11] <tkup> Khaaaaan, you're having IDE problems. Make sure your CD drive i installed properly first.
[05:11] <ubuntu_rules> !tell Detrux about install
[05:11] <eternex> kingspawn: just wondering
[05:11] <Detrux> Setup completed for Ubuntu, but said it failed to load the GUI. In the error log, it detected my video card (ati x850) and my dell monitor
[05:11] <Phunker> Looking for a OSX like dock bar/panel for gnome, any suggestions?
[05:11] <kingspawn> eternex: okay. 2x debian stable on 2 severs, ubuntu on desktop machine
[05:11] <Titan> how do I open the lilo.conf file with sudo so I can configure it... I don't remember what opens the editor.
[05:12] <reda_ea> Phunker: why would you want that ??
[05:12] <nalioth> Titan: nano
[05:12] <Dr_Willis> Detrux,  with some of the ati cards. you need to edit the xorg.conf or some other way to tell it to use 'vesa' untill you can get the  actual fglrx binary drivers installed.
[05:12] <Phunker> reda_ea, Because I do
[05:12] <kingspawn> Titan: perhaps sudo vi lilo.conf?
[05:12] <Dr_Willis> Titan,  ubuntu defaults to grub.. you sure you need lilo?
[05:12] <ubuntu_rules> Titan, sudo lilo.conf -e?
[05:12] <amphi> kingspawn: now now ;)
[05:12] <reda_ea> Phunker: theres gdesklets that has a bar like that but only with shortcuts for programs
[05:12] <Phunker> Something lick kxdocker or similar...
[05:12] <reda_ea> Phunker: launchers
[05:12] <kingspawn> amphi: just actin' up :)
[05:12] <eternex> kingspawn: huh
[05:12] <ubuntu_rules> has thorupedic been on tonight?
[05:13] <Phunker> reda_ea, ya i want something more customizable gdesklets are useless
[05:13] <reda_ea> Phunker: i mean no minimisin apps not as powerful as OSX dock
[05:13] <Xaero_Vincent> i hear the Mac EFI firmware supports BIOS emulaton... meaning u can install Ubuntu from the CD (or Im told)... today is also the day where Macs can officially run Windows XP
[05:13] <kingspawn> amphi: havent seen you in here before, this your usual nick?
[05:13] <Phunker> kxdocker is pretty good
[05:13] <Phunker> and some others for kde
[05:13] <reda_ea> Phunker: maybe kxdocker but its for kde
[05:13] <amphi> kingspawn: yeah - I'm only here intermittently
[05:13] <Phunker> ya
[05:13] <Phunker> i know
[05:13] <Dr_Willis> Xaero_Vincent,   i will belive it when i see it. :P
[05:13] <rodrigo> wenas
[05:13] <kingspawn> amphi: oh, how come?
[05:13] <ubuntu_rules> i have seen amphi before
[05:14] <rodrigo> q wa
[05:14] <Detrux> Dr. Willis: Is there a page you could point me to please to tell me how to do that
[05:14] <amphi> kingspawn: dialup ATM ;)
[05:14] <amphi> rodrigo: quo vadis?
[05:14] <Khaaaaan> Well I am not sure that worked....
[05:14] <kingspawn> amphi: heh, i see. you're one of the interesting people id like to add to my list
[05:14] <Dr_Willis> Detrux,  ubuntu wiki/forums  also type "!ati" and read the bots urls
[05:14] <Detrux> thanks
[05:14] <Phunker> !ati
[05:14] <ubotu> [ati]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[05:14] <Khaaaaan> I cannot seem to get CDs to play or DVDs to play... and can't view files individually
[05:14] <Amaranth> I wonder why that guy even bothers trying. He knows he is akicked
[05:14] <Phunker> :)
[05:14] <eternex> kingspawn: so im guessing your good at programming?
[05:14] <Klementas> Can I upgrade from 5.04 to dapper or do I need to upgrade to 5.10 first ??
[05:15] <UbuntuNewbie> can i install older version of Rhythmbox 0.8.8 to ubuntu
[05:15] <amphi> kingspawn: you are from the Heimatsicherheitsdienst?
[05:15] <tkup> Khaaaaan, you're having IDE problems. Make sure your CD drive i installed properly first.
[05:15] <ubuntu_rules> !tell Khaaaaan about dvd
[05:15] <Detrux> thank-you
[05:15] <Amaranth> !dvd
[05:15] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[05:15] <kingspawn> eternex: "good" is a relative term. i know my way around this and that, atleast.
[05:15] <Amaranth> UbuntuNewbie: Why would you want to do that?
[05:15] <tkup> Khaaaaan, your cd drive is most likely having problems
[05:15] <Khaaaaan> tkup, I think it is installed...but how can I be sure?
[05:15] <UbuntuNewbie> cause i can't play internet radio
[05:15] <kingspawn> amphi: what the F*? ;) not at all. i just collect interesting people.
[05:15] <dominic_>  pyvoice-gyachE-1.0.7 how do install it using WGET
[05:15] <kingspawn> amphi: trying to save good conversation for later.
[05:15] <dominic_>  pyvoice-gyachE-1.0.7 how do install it using WGET.
[05:15] <Amaranth> UbuntuNewbie: do you have the right plugins installed?
[05:16] <Amaranth> UbuntuNewbie: First of all, breezy or dapper?
[05:16] <eternex> kingspawn: oh, well thats still better than me lol
[05:16] <tkup> Khaaaaan, try apt-cdrom add
[05:16] <amphi> kingspawn: 'dept. of homeland security' - I just think it sounds so much more realistic in german (and I was joking)
[05:16] <nalioth> !offtopic
[05:16] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[05:16] <kingspawn> eternex: if you need to know something ask, and ill try to answer if i know
[05:16] <ubuntu_rules> !botsnac
[05:16] <ubotu> ubuntu_rules: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:16] <kingspawn> amphi: hahaha, yeah
[05:16] <ubuntu_rules> !botsnack
[05:16] <ubotu> thanks ubuntu_rules :)
[05:16] <UbuntuNewbie> Breezy
[05:16] <kingspawn> amphi: german always sounds better in those departements
[05:16] <tkup> Khaaaaan, what does it say?
[05:16] <Khaaaaan> failed to mount cdrom
[05:16] <eternex> kingspawn: thanks
[05:16] <Khaaaaan> hmm
[05:17] <kingspawn> amphi: german is kind of the "language of war"
[05:17] <nalioth> kingspawn: please discuss languages in #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:17] <Amaranth> UbuntuNewbie: You have the gstreamer0.8-plugins and gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse packages installed?
[05:17] <tkup> Khaaaaan, try sudo apt-cdrom add
[05:17] <hosler> I am have an Intel 855GM graphics card on my laptop. I use the i810 xorg driver for direct rendering. On ubuntu I cant play wolfenstein or Steam with cedega. When I was on fluxbox I could do this. I was whondering if anyone knew how to get a better version of this driver so I can play my games.
[05:17] <Khaaaaan> I am already root I belive...
[05:17] <UbuntuNewbie> let me check
[05:17] <ubuntu_rules> !multiverse
[05:17] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[05:17] <amphi> Khaaaaan: whoami would tell you
[05:17] <Khaaaaan> Yea still failed
[05:17] <tkup> Khaaaaan, put in an ubuntu CD if you have one and then try the same command again
[05:17] <kingspawn> nalioth: agreed
[05:17] <dominic_>  pyvoice-gyachE-1.0.7 how do install it using WGET.
[05:18] <noppe> what is the best way to compare to directories and sync them (they are local directories)
[05:18] <Titan> Dr_Willis: when I installed ubuntu I selected to have lilo installed instead because I was having what I thought to be problems with the grub one, later turned out to be a partitioning issue.
[05:18] <Amaranth> nalioth: Can you trim the cruft from !ask so it can show in channel?
[05:18] <hosler> !i810
[05:18] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, hosler
[05:18] <hosler> !810
[05:18] <ubotu> hosler: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:18] <Amaranth> hosler: What's the problem?
[05:18] <Klementas> !easysource
[05:18] <ubuntu_rules> !info 810
[05:18] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[05:18] <tkup> Khaaaaan, when you issue the command, pastebin dmesg|tail -20
[05:18] <Khaaaaan> mounting the Xubuntu CD worked....
[05:19] <snozle> does anyone know how to specify which driver for a wireless device to use, mine is using orinoco now and I want to switch it to hostap or wlanng
[05:19] <hosler> Amaranth: Video is really laggy when playing games. Ubuntu's i810 xorg driver doesnt seem to be as good as the one I used in slackware.
[05:19] <nalioth> !ask
[05:19] <ubotu> Just ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model, outputs of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl is important.
[05:19] <ubuntu_rules> !wireless
[05:19] <ubotu> wireless is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers
[05:19] <Amaranth> nalioth: thanks
[05:19] <Amaranth> hosler: Odd, we probably have a newer driver than slackware.
[05:20] <Khaaaaan> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11559
[05:20] <Khaaaaan> There it is....
[05:20] <hosler> Amaranth: In slackware I had to compile a new kernel to get it to work. Would making a new kernel make any differnce?
[05:20] <Amaranth> hosler: doubtful, unless you had to do some special configuration
[05:21] <Titan> about to attempt a reboot into the evil windoze os agian, pray for me that I don't kill my computer before I get back to Linux.
[05:21] <ubuntu_rules> Titan, im soooooooooo sorry
[05:21] <dominic_> were i can find repo for  pyvoice-gyachE-1.0.7
[05:21] <dominic_> were i can find repo for  pyvoice-gyachE-1.0.7
[05:21] <ubuntu_rules> !patience
[05:21] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Please be aware there are a lot of questions, but only maybe few who might know the answer for you. Please be patient. Your attitude may determine their willingness to help you.
[05:21] <Xaero_Vincent> Windows rules.. u'll never be alone.. you'll have all the spyware companionship u want
[05:21] <fiendskull9> !dual-monitors
[05:22] <ubotu> fiendskull9: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:22] <Dr_Willis> fiendskull9,  depends on your video card to some degree.
[05:22] <ubuntu_rules> dominic_, try not to double post like that
[05:22] <Khaaaaan> tkup, any thoughts?
[05:22] <ubuntu_rules> =)
[05:22] <tkup> Khaaaaan, hdparm -I /dev/hdc and pastebin again please
[05:22] <fiendskull9> They say if you play a windows CD backwards you here satan telling you to kill the pope, but thats not half as bad as when you play it forward!
[05:22] <arrick> ok im back
[05:23] <hosler> Amaranth: I think I have to allocate more memory
[05:23] <tristil> Anyone using Dapper have a problem with shutdown states being saved and compounding on each other? For example, every time I start up I get the same 3 browser windows from when my computer crashed at some point, plus 2 gajims.
[05:23] <Amaranth> hosler: that's an xorg.conf thing, afaik
[05:23] <ubuntu_rules> !anyone
[05:23] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[05:23] <tkup> Khaaaaan, and if you're feeling lucky today try hdparm -d0 /dev/hdc
[05:23] <Amaranth> hosler: run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:23] <Khaaaaan> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11560
[05:23] <Khaaaaan> There is one...
[05:23] <Amaranth> hosler: but you might have to change something in your BIOS, i really don't know for sure
[05:24] <tkup> Khaaaaan, try the second hdparm above and try mounting the cd again
[05:24] <dominic_> were i can find repo for  pyvoice-gyachE-1.0.7
[05:24] <arrick> Xaero_Vincent, I agree
[05:24] <fiendskull9> Xaero_Vincent, i agree, especially 200 :D. i use a windows barebones stripped down cd i made a while back.
[05:24] <fiendskull9> Xaero_Vincent, *2000
[05:24] <fiendskull9> ubuntu_rules, dude, 2k is the worst
[05:24] <Khaaaaan> its thinking....
[05:24] <tkup> Khaaaaan, thinking?
[05:24] <fiendskull9> ubuntu_rules, remember the big virus that hit cnn and stuff, it targeted 2k.
[05:24] <Khaaaaan> failed
[05:24] <nalioth> !offtopic
[05:24] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[05:24] <Khaaaaan> the mount failed
[05:24] <Xaero_Vincent> ME is the worst no doubt... Linux users were getting their kicks with that one :P
[05:24] <Khaaaaan> How odd....
[05:25] <ubuntu_rules> fiendskull9, and? what did it do to your 2k box?
[05:25] <tkup> Khaaaaan, dmesg | tail -25 again :/
[05:25] <nalioth> fiendskull9: ubuntu_rules: window washing in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[05:25] <Khaaaaan> I did not have these problems when playing with dapper
[05:25] <ubuntu_rules> lol
[05:25] <arrick> !pastebin
[05:25] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, totally, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[05:25] <ubuntu_rules> sry again nalioth
[05:25] <Xaero_Vincent> ok so sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ?
[05:25] <Xaero_Vincent> how is that better than Kubuntu?
[05:25] <fiendskull9> when i get into dapper (probably tommorow) what would xgl/compiz be in the repos?
[05:25] <tkup> Khaaaaan, in the meantime try hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc and mount
[05:25] <fiendskull9> just xgl
[05:25] <Dr_Willis> Xaero_Vincent,  the Kubuntu-desktop package IS kubuntu
[05:25] <nalioth> Xaero_Vincent: that is kubuntu
[05:26] <UbuntuNewbie> gstreamer0.8-plugins and gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse packages can't find it
[05:26] <Dr_Willis> Xaero_Vincent,  and its all discussed on the Xubuntu web site. :P
[05:26] <nalioth> ubotu: tell UbuntuNewbie about repos
[05:26] <ubuntu_rules> !multiversew
[05:26] <ubotu> ubuntu_rules: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:26] <ubuntu_rules> !multiverse
[05:26] <Xaero_Vincent> *.*
[05:26] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[05:26] <nalioth> UbuntuNewbie: enable the universe and multiverse repos (see the URL the bot has sent you)
[05:26] <Khaaaaan> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11561
[05:26] <Khaaaaan> Should a CD be in the drive when I am doing this??
[05:27] <Xaero_Vincent> ok i'll try that then cuz it wasnt working with the GUI package manager
[05:27] <neurosis> http://www.kde-look.org/content/pre2/37477-2.jpg <-- does gnome have cool eye candy like this with a transparent calendar and such things like transparent system information?
[05:27] <kingspawn> neurosis: why not install kde?
[05:27] <tkup> Khaaaaan, yees :)
[05:27] <eternex> has anyone used GTKRadiant?
[05:27] <arrick> anyone: I was told to install samba to be able to ftp from windows into my server, so I booted to ubuntu and find teh same error here, please check this out and help me out. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11562
[05:27] <Khaaaaan> Okay good
[05:28] <neurosis> kingspawn: i kind of like gnome
[05:28] <kingspawn> neurosis: all ytour non-practical needs covered in on ebase
[05:28] <Khaaaaan> I had a Beck CD in there....
[05:28] <neurosis> ebase?
[05:28] <Xaero_Vincent> is the HowTo wiki relevent to Kubuntu too?
[05:28] <ubuntu_rules> nalioth, i know this is a little off topic, but do you know if you can install linux on the Sony PSP?
[05:28] <tkup> Khaaaaan, what's on the cd?
[05:28] <Khaaaaan> music
[05:28] <nalioth> ubuntu_rules: linux runs on just about anything, and yes.
[05:28] <Xaero_Vincent> the HowTo wiki is extremely important for a noob like me
[05:28] <UbuntuNewbie> im not sure how to turn on the universe & multiverse repos
[05:28] <Khaaaaan> tkup, music
[05:28] <tkup> oh ok
[05:28] <nalioth> UbuntuNewbie: read the URL the bot sent you in a private message
[05:28] <arrick> !repos
[05:28] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[05:28] <kingspawn> neurosis: "one base"
[05:28] <tkup> Khaaaaan, is you drive one of the latest ones?
[05:28] <ubuntu_rules> nalioth, you gonna tell me to google it huh?
[05:29] <neurosis> oh
[05:29] <odin_> one day, I shall install linux on my fly zipper!
[05:29] <neurosis> dont know what that is either
[05:29] <Dr_Willis> odin_,  install it on my dog!
[05:29] <neurosis> i'll google it
[05:29] <kingspawn> neurosis: and whenever your actually want to use a computer, turn back to a real desktop environment
[05:29] <Khaaaaan> tkup, well it is a T30... if that is what you mean :)
[05:29] <mikebot> how do i open the tutorial in emacs?
[05:29] <odin_> Dr_Willis:  your dog is not worthy!
[05:29] <nalioth> ubuntu_rules: i suspect there may be a #psp or ##psp channel around
[05:29] <ubuntu_rules> !tell UbuntuNewbie about multiverse
[05:29] <Dr_Willis> odin_,  yea.. the puppy 'core dumps' all over the carpet!
[05:29] <tkup> Khaaaaan, I'm on a T30 right now but with a regular cdrom
[05:29] <ubuntu_rules> nalioth, ty...  bbiab
[05:29] <odin_> Dr_Willis:  hahaha
[05:29] <Khaaaaan> tkup, mine is the CD/DVD
[05:30] <Khaaaaan> CD RW
[05:30] <Khaaaaan> ahh
[05:30] <neurosis> kingspawn: what is one base?
[05:30] <arrick> orbin you here tonight?
[05:30] <Khaaaaan> I will just go back to GNOME
[05:30] <Khaaaaan> this experiment is over ;)
[05:30] <odin_> Dr_Willis:  reroute the output, man!
[05:30] <reda_ea> Khaaaaan: didn't ivman work ?
[05:30] <Khaaaaan> reda_ea naw ... dunno what the hay is going on :(
[05:30] <Dr_Willis> odin_,  setting default gateway to be 'backdoor'
[05:30] <Puter> Anyone know what this means "Squid Parent: child process 7343 exited due to signal 6
[05:30] <Puter> "
[05:31] <rewt> !ati
[05:31] <ubotu> hmm... ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[05:31] <kingspawn> neurosis: when you want to use a computer, use something that doesnt spin 3d-effects saround. when you want to act like you are using a computer, get some fancy 3d-stuff
[05:31] <arrick> anyone: I was told to install samba to be able to ftp from windows into my server, so I booted to ubuntu and find the same error here, please check this out and help me out. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11562
[05:31] <ormandj> hi, I updated to dapper drake on a testing machine (no X, console only) and now my eth0 is no longer working. I looked in /etc/network/interfaces, and it's still properly defined there. how do i enable this interface via command line? (perm. change, not just ifconfiging it for now)
[05:31] <tkup> Khaaaaan, sorry I can't help. I'm sure somebody else will get it sorted out
[05:31] <ubuntu_rules> nalioth, no luck...  any other ideas?
[05:31] <mikebot> anyone know about emacs/
[05:31] <mikebot> ?
[05:31] <mindmime> argh, getting a jibberish when connecting to a cisco 2600 via serial ;(
[05:31] <ubuntu_rules> ty tho
[05:31] <mindmime> any idea's ?
[05:31] <ubuntu_rules> !patience
[05:31] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Please be aware there are a lot of questions, but only maybe few who might know the answer for you. Please be patient. Your attitude may determine their willingness to help you.
[05:31] <Khaaaaan> tkup, thank you for trying !!! I appreciate it greatly!
[05:31] <arrick> !emac
[05:31] <reda_ea> Khaaaaan: what problem you have now ?
[05:31] <ubotu> arrick: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:31] <neurosis> kingspawn: whats wrong with having both?
[05:31] <arrick> !emacs
[05:31] <ubotu> well, emacs is a text editor made by GNU. Some praise it as the world's best
[05:31] <odin_> damper drake isn't done yet, is it?  it's just, like, a beta release?
[05:31] <mindmime> matt@hektor:~$ cu -l /dev/ttyS0 -s 9600
[05:31] <mindmime> Connected.
[05:31] <mindmime> \uffff\uffff\uffff\u0104\uffff\u0164\uffff\uffff\u0104
[05:31] <rewt> !ati
[05:31] <ubotu> ati is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[05:31] <amphi> arrick: with samba there's no need for ftp, it just "good ol'" winduhs file sharing
[05:31] <nalioth> ubuntu_rules: ask in ##linux if anyone knows
[05:31] <saskia> mindmime: use minicom?
[05:31] <ubuntu_rules> !pastebin
[05:31] <ubotu> well, pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[05:31] <mindmime> hm
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> odin_,  its in its 5th 'beta' release ya can say
[05:31] <mindmime> whats the command line command to connect with minicom?
[05:31] <Puter> Squid Parent: child process 7343 exited due to signal 6
[05:31] <Khaaaaan> reda_ea, still no CD ROM, but that is okay, I am will go back to Ubuntu... that detects it fine :)
[05:31] <CaptainMorgan> emacs rulz
[05:32] <Xaero_Vincent> KDE install aint worken
[05:32] <arrick> amphi, I just wanted to set up a ftp server on my ubuntu/apache box
[05:32] <CaptainMorgan> emacs is very efficient
[05:32] <reda_ea> Khaaaaan: did you launch ivman
[05:32] <saskia> ubotu: vi is the best for me ;)
[05:32] <ubotu> ...but vi is already something else...
[05:32] <mikebot> CaptainMorgan, know how to opent he tutorial in emacs?
[05:32] <CaptainMorgan> and highly customizable
[05:32] <odin_> what is emacs, anyway?
[05:32] <Khaaaaan> reda_ea launch it?
[05:32] <arrick> !emacs
[05:32] <Khaaaaan> I installed it....
[05:32] <ubotu> it has been said that emacs is a text editor made by GNU. Some praise it as the world's best
[05:32] <reda_ea> Khaaaaan: type ivman in a terminal and put a cd
[05:32] <ubuntu_rules> !good bot
[05:32] <ubotu> thanks ubuntu_rules :)
[05:32] <arrick> odin_, ^^
[05:32] <dfc> why is there no make on the livecds?
[05:32] <saskia> minicom
[05:32] <saskia> man minicom
[05:32] <reda_ea> Khaaaaan: then goto /media/cdrom
[05:32] <CaptainMorgan> mikebot, check out #emacs .. you mean the help section?
[05:32] <kingspawn> dfc: good question.
[05:32] <amphi> arrick: samba is better for sharing files with windows, if that's what you want to do - the 'using samba' book is online at openbooks.oreilly.com
[05:33] <mikebot> CaptainMorgan, yes
[05:33] <mikebot> no
[05:33] <mikebot> not the help section--the tutorial for emacs
[05:33] <dfc> kingspawn: are you teasing me? i don't get why imake is included but make is not included
[05:33] <odin_> GIMP is a freggin' awesome program
[05:33] <arrick> amphi, I just want to be able to allow others to get into my ftp files
[05:33] <CaptainMorgan> mikebot there you go
[05:33] <Xaero_Vincent> see look.... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11563
[05:33] <Khaaaaan> reda_ea it appears to be creating "default files" for me
[05:33] <kingspawn> dfc: no, i am telling you it is a good question, thereby implying that i feel that the build-essential package should be included
[05:33] <arrick> I can use either win or ubuntu amphi
[05:33] <reda_ea> Khaaaaan: ivman ?
[05:33] <Khaaaaan> however, it is taking some amount of time...
[05:34] <Khaaaaan> reda_ea, yes
[05:34] <mikebot> CaptainMorgan, yeah, thanks
[05:34] <amphi> arrick: then why are you here? ;)
[05:34] <arrick> I agree with kingspawn
[05:34] <PwcrLinux> _jason: I'm back
[05:34] <arrick> to get it set up
[05:34] <reda_ea> Khaaaaan: i think it will stay launched
[05:34] <Xaero_Vincent> this is the error i get when trying to download the kubuntu-desktop package... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11563
[05:34] <amphi> arrick: belay that, I misread
[05:34] <reda_ea> Khaaaaan: i mean just let it working in its terminal and put a cd in the drive
[05:34] <Khaaaaan> reda_ea it is just the terminal stilll
[05:34] <odin_> so what exactly does Damper Drake have over Breezy Badger?
[05:34] <kingspawn> dfc: not everything is irony, these days. but i feel you.
[05:35] <dfc> kingspawn: surely there was a reason for this right? am i missing something? is there an easy way to compile an app on the livecd?
[05:35] <reda_ea> Khaaaaan: then open /media/cdrom with your file manager
[05:35] <PwcrLinux> _jason: u there?
[05:35] <Dr_Willis> odin_,  everything is updated more or less. :P
[05:35] <Khaaaaan> ok
[05:35] <dfc> i just want to run crafty on a xeonemt64 to see how well it runs
[05:35] <kingspawn> dfc: not at all :)
[05:35] <kingspawn> dfc: a chess man? nice.
[05:35] <Dr_Willis> odin_,  thats how ubuntu works.. every 6mo or so - new release , all updates at once.
[05:35] <CaptainMorgan> who said chess?
[05:35] <Khaaaaan> empty....
[05:35] <odin_> Dr_Willis:  with 'em already released auto-updates, it must be a serious overhaul
[05:35] <CaptainMorgan> what about i?
[05:35] <kingspawn> dfc: but no, the ubuntu people have left us compilers and hackers out of it.
[05:36] <odin_> Dr_Willis: ooh
[05:36] <Xaero_Vincent> yea... the very best X11 too... X.Org 7.0
[05:36] <dfc> kingspawn: imake is in there
[05:36] <arrick> !ftp
[05:36] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: vsftpd, proftpd
[05:36] <eternex> what version number is woary?
[05:36] <kingspawn> dfc: still..
[05:36] <tkup> Khaaaaan, as a last resort remove the dvdrom from the bay and plug it back in...
[05:36] <odin_> it's too much fun installing stuff on Ubuntu
[05:36] <dfc> kingspawn: gcc is there just not make:(
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> odin_,  actually i think they sort of  put updates on 'hold' except for security stuff. till the next release as well.
[05:36] <tkup> Khaaaaan, I'm not sure if it's hotplug-capable so be careful
[05:36] <odin_> spending more time installing things than actually using any programs
[05:37] <Khaaaaan> tkup, I could try that... but it froze my system last time
[05:37] <Khaaaaan> haha
[05:37] <kingspawn> dfc: innit nice
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> odin_,  thus the older ubuntu. should have very few updates at this time.
[05:37] <kingspawn> eternex: something around 4.10 or 4.04
[05:37] <eternex> wow old
[05:37] <saskia> anyone has Thinkpad T41? I can't get my wireless working
[05:37] <Khaaaaan> ahh I will go back to Ubuntu... its okay
[05:37] <Khaaaaan> this isnt worth the trouble :)
[05:38] <amphi> saskia: I have a t42 - does yours have the ipw2100?
[05:38] <Xaero_Vincent> Please answer... is the HowTo wiki for Ubuntu completely releavent for Kubuntu users?  I mean the Kubuntu "HowTo" wiki sucks big time
[05:38] <ubuntu_rules> nalioth, the ppl in ##linux are mean... please dont refer anyone else to that chan....
[05:38] <Puter> Anyone know much about SQUID on ubuntu ?
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> as far as i rember the Kubuntu howto was '  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop'
[05:38] <kingspawn> Xaero_Vincent: like every open source movement: if it sucks, edit it and fix it and make it better
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> :P
[05:38] <ubuntu_rules> except for swolf
[05:38] <eternex> well ill be on later, gonna install 32 bit version and see if a program works
[05:38] <bimberi> Xaero_Vincent: wrt your error - put your sources.list on the pastebin
[05:38] <kingspawn> (and never use mp3 or wmv)
[05:38] <eternex> maybe
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> ick
[05:39] <PwcrLinux> whoa
[05:39] <ubuntu_rules> wtf???
[05:39] <CaptainMorgan> wha the?
[05:39] <amphi> ubuntu_rules: don't be silly ;) there are many knowledgeable and helpful people in that channel, as well as the others
[05:39] <Xaero_Vincent> nice net split!
[05:39] <PwcrLinux> netsplit floods
[05:39] <Xaero_Vincent> geez
[05:39] <saskia> anphi: yes 2100
[05:39] <nalioth> ubuntu_rules: i am in there
[05:39] <saskia> then?
[05:39] <ubuntu_rules> !spam
[05:39] <ubotu> from memory, spam is Stupid Pointless Annoying Messages, or the pork luncheon meat who's name is the acronym of Shoulder of Pork and hAM
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> Xaero_Vincent,  its all your fault! :p
[05:39] <amphi> ubuntu_rules: and /ignore -replies is at your disposal
[05:40] <saskia> amphi: should thinkpad wireless' work by default?
[05:40] <ubuntu_rules> amphi, nalioth, you did not respond tho... only 2 ppl did...  and 1 had a very nasty tone to his text
[05:40] <saskia> amphi: with the Fn-F5 button ?
[05:40] <ubuntu_rules> !wireless
[05:40] <ubotu> hmm... wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers
[05:40] <amphi> ubuntu_rules: it's only ascii...
[05:40] <Xaero_Vincent> But I dont know how to right Wikis.. Noobs need the info not make it... that comes later.. im just saying if I have troubles with Kubuntu... could i resort to the Ubuntu wiki?
[05:40] <ubuntu_rules> amphi, lol...  im just messing...  im bored
[05:40] <Xaero_Vincent> or is that not a good idea
[05:40] <ubuntu_rules> sry
[05:40] <amphi> saskia: on mine, Fn-F5 is for bluetooth
[05:40] <Khaaaaan> guys get this...
[05:40] <Khaaaaan> It will mount my Xubuntu disk
[05:40] <orbin> Xaero_Vincent: thre's #kubuntu
[05:40] <Khaaaaan> hhaha
[05:40] <nalioth> ubuntu_rules: my apologies
[05:40] <saskia> mine.. T41 is for 802.11b
[05:41] <Khaaaaan> but not music cds
[05:41] <amphi> saskia: and yes, it should Just Work(TM) I think - an ipw2200 did
[05:41] <Khaaaaan> How odd!
[05:41] <ubuntu_rules> nalioth, lol...  for what? im just being my dumb *** self again
[05:41] <amphi> saskia: does lsmod show the ipw2100 module loaded?
[05:41] <saskia> dang.. maybe a hardware problem
[05:41] <ubuntu_rules> =)
[05:41] <amphi> saskia: lspci would show what card it is, but I believe its the ipw2100
[05:41] <ubuntu_rules> nalioth, but there is one thing you might be able to help me with
[05:41] <Xaero_Vincent> yea but there is only 147 people in #kubuntu and they aint talken
[05:41] <PwcrLinux> oh boy, join floods lol
[05:41] <UbuntuNewbie> i still can't play radio station from Rhythmbox but i can play ogg files
[05:42] <nalioth> ubuntu_rules: http://www.psp-linux.org/index.php/Main_Page
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> Xaero_Vincent,  there is little if any differance in the 'core' part of ubuntu vs kubuntu - its all basicially what desktop enviroment is installed.
[05:42] <ubuntu_rules> nalioth, Seveas was doing a cool smiley earlier...  do you know what im talking about?
[05:42] <ubuntu_rules> ty
[05:42] <arrick> !samba
[05:42] <ubotu> [samba]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[05:42] <Khaaaaan> reda_ra, dude, it mounted my Xubuntu CD... but it will not mount DVDs or CDs
[05:42] <saskia> aha .. yes ipw2100
[05:42] <nalioth> ubuntu_rules: i do, and i don't know how to do it
[05:42] <ubuntu_rules> =((
[05:42] <ubuntu_rules> o well
[05:42] <saskia> i think it's because of my institution's WEP password or something
[05:43] <amphi> nalioth: would you like to add this url to the samba factoid? http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html
[05:43] <Detrux> Yay! this is my first tiem running Linux
[05:43] <amphi> Detrux: congrats
[05:43] <Detrux> Thanks for the help guys, took a bit but got the video driver figured out
[05:43] <Khaaaaan> Why would Xubuntu mount data disks and not music disks?
[05:43] <amphi> saskia: you saw that in lspci or lsmod output?
[05:43] <orbin> ubuntu_rules: it's in the char map
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> You DONT mount Audio CD's
[05:43] <Xaero_Vincent> ok I'll pastebin my sources.list
[05:44] <saskia> amphi: thanks, i think i know the problem
[05:44] <Khaaaaan> Well I cannot play them then
[05:44] <Khaaaaan> or browse them
[05:44] <amphi> saskia: cool
[05:44] <id_sonic> how to compile python 2.4.3 ???
[05:44] <id_sonic> who can help?
[05:44] <Dr_Willis> Khaaaaan,  I suggest ripping them to mp3 or ogg :P
[05:44] <meagsquid> anyone know if i can run ubuntu on a mac book pro?
[05:44] <amphi> ogg! ogg!
[05:44] <Detrux> So i installed Linux... now what? lol
[05:44] <ogami1972> hi all- quick question- is it ok to put the swap on another hard drive altogether?
[05:44] <Khaaaaan> I cant rip them, if my system wont recognizr them....
[05:44] <bimberi> nalioth, ubuntu_rules, in a terminal type 'gucharmap' and select the Katakana script
[05:44] <saskia> meagsquid: you do that then post it to digg.com, lol
[05:45] <ubuntu_rules> bimberi, ty
[05:45] <nalioth> ty, bimberi
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> Khaaaaan,  try it and see. :P run the programs that access the cd from a shell and see if any messages show up.
[05:45] <bimberi> yw :)
[05:45] <meagsquid> saskia: is it just because of the bios or other factors?
[05:45] <ubuntu_rules> nalioth, i have been there and it has not been updated since Feb...  lol
[05:45] <bimberi> opps .. i mean 
[05:45] <ubuntu_rules> gonna keep looking tho
[05:45] <Khaaaaan> Or I could just reinstall Ubuntu and forget playing with Xubuntu :)
[05:45] <Khaaaaan> brb
[05:45] <nalioth> ubuntu_rules: all i can say is ask your uncle google
[05:45] <Xaero_Vincent> Ok here... see what could be wrong... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11564
[05:46] <ubuntu_rules> nalioth, YEY!!! UNCLE GOOGLE IS HERE!!!!
[05:46] <saskia> meagsquid: yes, factory design protects this 'proprietary' hardware to run only its 'proprietary' OS
[05:47] <saskia> in 2007 Mac will run all winblows' software
[05:47] <ubuntu_rules> nalioth, found a linux-based psp killer... lol
[05:47] <PwcrLinux> Oh well _jason isn't speak..
[05:48] <amphi> saskia: I thought someone had already booted some version of windows on an intel mac
[05:48] <ogami1972> anyone had bad experiences putting the swap on a seperate drive?
[05:48] <meagsquid> saskia: not really for this channel, but what would you recommend is a comparable pc notebook to the mac book pro so i can run linux?
[05:48] <saskia> amphi: yeah but some are proven as hoax
[05:48] <nalioth> amphi: saskia ubuntu runs on an intel mac, but that feature has not made it into any production software
[05:48] <amphi> ogami1972: that should work fine
[05:48] <arrick> ok, I installed samba, and the wiki page uses all gui to perform the setup, can someone help me with setting up by command line?
[05:48] <ogami1972> thx- didn't want to progress further- am on a time table
[05:48] <saskia> oh i see
[05:49] <amphi> arrick: you edit the config file
[05:49] <ogami1972> bye all- wish me luck on my first fresh install of flight 6- will be the third system i have installed ubuntu on and then given away...
[05:49] <Xaero_Vincent> has anone looked at my paste?
[05:49] <Xaero_Vincent> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11564
[05:50] <ubuntu_rules> nalioth, i found a way to run either windoze95 or DLX on the psp...
[05:50] <ubuntu_rules> yey
[05:50] <ubuntu_rules> wow the room just got alot of people
[05:50] <nalioth> ubuntu_rules: netsplits
[05:51] <amphi> ubuntu_rules: that's 'channel' to you ;)
[05:51] <Xaero_Vincent> has there been a split that knocked maybe 300 people outof the romm?
[05:51] <arrick> ok, doing that now, amphi, what all do I need to set?
[05:51] <saskia> ubuntu_rules: digg it !
[05:51] <ubuntu_rules> nalioth, huh? still a linux newbie
[05:51] <ubuntu_rules> amphi, sry...  ^^^^
[05:51] <arrick> the workgroup, and what else?
[05:51] <IdleOne> Xaero_Vincent, looks good but I would put a # in front of the cdrom repos unless you want it to keep asking for the cd
[05:51] <ubuntu_rules> saskia, gotta love it
[05:51] <amphi> arrick: TFM is your friend; it's long since I used samba
[05:51] <arrick> what is TFM?
[05:51] <IdleOne> ubuntu_rules, a netplits is when to servers ...well....split
[05:51] <t1n_l0tus> I'm trying to compile MudOs and am having some difficulties.  Is this something that I can be helped with? My error seems to be complaining about a specific header file...
[05:52] <ubuntu_rules> IdleOne, ty
[05:52] <Juhaz> ubuntu_rules, netsplit is when two IRC servers lose connection to each other
[05:52] <Xaero_Vincent> ok IdleOne... but how come kubuntu-desktop isnt worken?  am I missing a repository?
[05:52] <arrick> amphi, what is TFM?
[05:52] <Juhaz> ubuntu_rules, so to the people on the other, it looks like all the people in the other server just quit. and later when the split ends, join
[05:52] <ubuntu_rules> thats why i like this CHANNEL (that better amphi? lol) people are helpful
[05:52] <amphi> arrick: the $SOME_ADJECTIVE_BEGINNING_WITH_F manual
[05:52] <arrick> ok
[05:52] <IdleOne> Xaero_Vincent, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop then log out and log back in clicking session at the login screen and choosing kde
[05:53] <ubuntu_rules> Juhaz, ty
[05:53] <amphi> arrick: the samba factoid now has the url of an entire book about setting up samba
[05:53] <ubuntu_rules> Juhaz, so they are seeing the same thing?
[05:53] <Xaero_Vincent> yea it says this tho
[05:53] <Xaero_Vincent> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[05:53] <Xaero_Vincent>   kubuntu-desktop: Depends: hal but it is not going to be installed
[05:53] <Xaero_Vincent>                    Depends: ivman but it is not going to be installed
[05:53] <nalioth> Xaero_Vincent: please don't paste
[05:53] <ubuntu_rules> !pastebin
[05:53] <Juhaz> ubuntu_rules, yes
[05:53] <ubotu> pastebin is probably http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> !info kubuntu-desktop
[05:54] <arrick> yeah, amphi its all gui, tried using it already
[05:54] <ubotu> kubuntu-desktop: (Kubuntu desktop system), section misc, is optional. Version: 0.55 (breezy), Packaged size: 8 kB, Installed size: 36 kB
[05:54] <Tim> Hi when I started up ubuntu and my screen started auto adjustment and then xserver crashed and it spit this out at me "(EE)RADEIN (0):{dri} DRIScreen int failed. Disabling DRI (EE)RADEON (0):XAAInit Error Fatal server error Caught signal 11 server aborting"
[05:54] <orbin> Xaero_Vincent: have you updated/reloaded?
[05:54] <IdleOne> Xaero_Vincent, follow that wiki page above or install the missing packages
[05:54] <Xaero_Vincent> yea
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> apt-get update, apt-get upgrade, then try  again?
[05:54] <Tim> Sorry "(EE)RADEON (0)...
[05:54] <orbin> Tim: you still on that?  did you reconfig the x server?
[05:55] <Tim> yes and it didnt work
[05:55] <orbin> Tim: what card do you have?
[05:55] <predius_> is there a way to reduce swap usage?
[05:55] <saskia> ubuntu in my national language means "dead end", guess what my nationality is
[05:55] <ubuntu_rules> nalioth, since i am a linux newbie, can i get your opinion?
[05:55] <predius_> i have over 200 megs of ram free
[05:55] <predius_> and it's swapping
[05:55] <ubuntu_rules> http://bochs.sourceforge.net/diskimages.html
[05:55] <s|k> I'm logged into my box through ssh, is there anything I can do that will make the computer beep or do on the desktop?
[05:55] <Tim> I am running v. 5.1 and have integrated graphics ATI radeon xpress 200
[05:55] <Xaero_Vincent> yea no it isnt worken
[05:56] <orbin> Tim: run this: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep Driver | tail -n 1
[05:56] <bimberi> Xaero_Vincent: comment out the breezy-backports and videolan.org repos, then update and retry (you can re-enable them after)
[05:56] <s|k> the remote computer
[05:56] <ubuntu_rules> which would be the easiest to run on a slow comp(psp)
[05:56] <Tim> ok Thanks!
[05:56] <DBO> IdleOne, The Friggin Manual
[05:56] <bimberi> IdleOne: The ******* Manual
[05:56] <IdleOne> thought so
[05:56] <saskia> yupe, like the RTFM
[05:56] <digits> How do I make bitmap fonts and .pcf show up in Gnome? from ~/.fonts
[05:56] <saskia> Read The F****** Manual
[05:57] <IdleOne> i thought that was a no no in ubuntu
[05:57] <ubuntu_rules> no no to type the word
[05:57] <IdleOne> they must of changed the CoC
[05:57] <ubuntu_rules> not so bad to abv. it
[05:57] <saskia> then.. CoC = ?
[05:57] <carthik> IdleOne, you mean "must have" right?
[05:57] <IdleOne> ubuntu_rules, abreviations mean the same as the full word right?
[05:57] <nalioth> !offtopic
[05:57] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[05:57] <ubuntu_rules> code od condust
[05:57] <ubuntu_rules> code od conduct
[05:58] <IdleOne> nalioth, sorry
[05:58] <ubuntu_rules> IdleOne, yea, but you dont have to see it typed
[05:58] <saskia> yeah but if your read it as a straight forward word, then it's a coc
[05:58] <Dr_Willis> s|k,  theres a beep command ya could install i recall.
[05:59] <IdleOne> ubuntu_rules, next time I'll tell you to RTFM and see how helpful that is to you :P
[06:00] <ubuntu_rules> ty...  i will...  now give me the wiki page of tfm and i will rtfm....  (im all done nalioth, please dont ban me)
[06:00] <Zoroaster> how do I enable ssh on my ubuntu server?
[06:00] <bimberi> Xaero_Vincent: probably because you've installed something from non-ubuntu repos (noting the videolan and debian.org ones in your sources.list)
[06:00] <Dr_Willis> Zoroaster,  install the ssh server package
[06:00] <bimberi> Zoroaster: sudo aptitude install ssh
[06:00] <Dr_Willis> !info ssh
[06:00] <ubotu> ssh: (Secure shell client and server (transitional package)), section net, is optional. Version: 1:4.1p1-7ubuntu4 (breezy), Packaged size: 1 kB, Installed size: 32 kB
[06:00] <saskia> apt-get install ssh-server
[06:00] <saskia> apt-get install ssh
[06:00] <Xaero_Vincent> bimberi... im using the 2.6.16 kernel on Breezy... would that have anything to do with it?
[06:01] <amphi> ubuntu_rules: man man ;)
[06:01] <IdleOne> sudo apt-get install  openssh-server
[06:01] <Zoroaster> bimberi, aptitude?  not apt-get?
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> apitude is good also :P
[06:01] <bimberi> Xaero_Vincent:  possibly
[06:01] <zack> how can i tell ping, mutt, thunderbird, etc. that their DNS information is like 24 hours out-of-date?
[06:01] <nalioth> Zoroaster: whichever one you normally use
[06:01] <bimberi> !aptitude
[06:01] <bimberi> !+aptitude
[06:01] <ubotu> [aptitude]  an APT front-end like apt-get or Synaptic (and with a command line syntax very much like apt-get). Contrary to them, however, aptitude remembers which packages were installed automatically as dependencies, and will remove them when no longer needed. It also features a text-mode user interface, which has some bugs.
[06:01] <PwcrLinux> _jason: DMA look better now, no more little pausing in my DVD movies :)
[06:01] <Zoroaster> ok, ssh is already installed, how do I connecto from another terminal?
[06:02] <Zoroaster> ssh and then the ip?
[06:02] <saskia> if it's a winblows, install PuTTy
[06:02] <Zoroaster> let me try
[06:02] <bimberi> Zoroaster: yep
[06:02] <ubuntu_rules> amphi, have you used PicoBSD? i need to know if that would be easier to run on a psp than...  say, slackware or RH
[06:02] <IdleOne> Zoroaster, yup
[06:02] <Zoroaster> thank you
[06:02] <n00b> 1st linux boot... my computer has NEVER been this fast!  Dont know shit about linux, but it is quick!
[06:02] <ubuntu_rules> or if i should try to boot ubuntu
[06:02] <amphi> ubuntu_rules: no, nor do I have a psp...
[06:02] <saskia> ssh user@the_ssh_host
[06:02] <nalioth> ubuntu_rules: #ubuntu-offtopic awaits all talk about psp linux
[06:02] <xerophyte> i am upgrading my desktop to dapper hope it works ;)
[06:02] <amphi> n00b: rejoice!
[06:02] <bimberi> Zoroaster: actually, if the username is different it will be   'ssh user@ip'
[06:03] <n00b> what can I do here, that my winxp box wont do?
[06:03] <ubuntu_rules> nalioth, sorry...  thought it related to ubuntu, because of last msg
[06:03] <n00b> can I emu osx and run iLife?
[06:03] <saskia> n00b: it will still be fast after u install many apps
[06:03] <DBO> n00b, not without VMWare
[06:03] <DBO> n00b, congrats on setting up linux
[06:03] <n00b> ok, VMWare is an OSX emu?
[06:04] <amphi> n00b: you can run many OSes under qemu, but not, I suspect, OSX
[06:04] <DBO> n00b, in a way...
[06:04] <n00b> it was a breeze, ubuntu was simple to install.  I tried Slackware and it could not get GUI, so went the NOOB way!
[06:04] <DBO> n00b, ubuntu isnt just for beginners, it scales very well for all sorts of users
[06:04] <amphi> n00b: thus the attribute of the 'badger', no doubt ;)
[06:04] <bur[n] er> anyone know if it's possible to make a "busy" cursor in gnome when you use a hotkey to launch an app?
[06:04] <t1n_l0tus> I'm trying to get MudOS working, but I can't seem to "make" successfully.  I've never been good at compiling, is anyone up to helping me?
[06:05] <bur[n] er> similar to KDE
[06:05] !lilo:*! BTW, we had a bit of last-minute maintenance on a main rotation server, and it just split a short time ago. We were informed about 12 hours ago, and had notified everyone on the server a couple of times to make sure people know that they would be experiencing the outage. Apologies for the noise and inconvenience, and thank you for using freenode!
[06:05] <n00b> I have been up 20 mins or so, and am just blazing fast.  found my usb drives no prob, and all .mp3s seem to work.  Need to get xVid codecs for linux though...
[06:05] <amphi> !mplayer
[06:05] <ubotu> I heard mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[06:05] <neurosis> http://www.bastille-linux.org/ <---- has anyone tried using this software?
[06:06] <IdleOne> t1n_l0tus, you probably need to install build-essential sudo apt-get install  build-essential
[06:06] <saskia> totem works
[06:06] <orbin> n00b: mp3s work ootb?  that's unusual.
[06:06] <DBO> neurosis, yes
[06:06] <Zoroaster> how do I relase an IP and renew, like in windoes its ipconfig /renew
[06:06] <t1n_l0tus> idleone thanks i'll try it.
[06:06] <IdleOne> t1n_l0tus, then try your make command again
[06:06] <DBO> neurosis, do you feel you need it?
[06:06] <Tim> Hi I tryed the Cat/etc/X11/xorg.conf |grepDriver| tail -n1 and it said That Cat/etc/X11/xorg.conf was'nt there and |grepDriver| was a invalid command
[06:06] <n00b> had to apt-get lame
[06:06] <neurosis> DBO: is it good security software?
[06:06] <saskia> i use totem to play divx movies with subtitle files (*.srt), they work great
[06:06] <t1n_l0tus> idleone it's allready installed
[06:06] <ubuntu_rules> Zoroaster, all i know is the cmd is ifconfig
[06:06] <n00b> googled it and voila... answers appeared
[06:06] <neurosis> DBO: more or less im looking to learn to secure linux
[06:06] <n00b> firefox worked out of the box with DHCP
[06:07] <DBO> neurosis, its not software per say, its just a script to help harden your system.  If your system is running in a high risc area, it is a good idea to run it, and you will learn some stuff
[06:07] <amphi> n00b: mplayer should pull 'em in, otherwise you may need to install the ffmpeg package
[06:07] <ubuntu_rules> try ifconfig --help
[06:07] <avr> Zoroaster: dhclient -r && dhclient <interfacename>
[06:07] <IdleOne> t1n_l0tus,  put the error on pastebin paste.ubuntu-nl.org and give us the url
[06:07] <n00b> groovy
[06:07] <orbin> n00b: should use the wiki from now on
[06:07] <n00b> i LOVE the apt-get command
[06:07] <n00b> where is the wiki?
[06:07] <amphi> Tim: that command is severely garbled ;)
[06:07] <saskia> yes, no worry about dependencies
[06:07] <neurosis> DBO: im not really running a server or anything and i wouldnt say insecure, but i would like to use it as a learning tool if possible
[06:08] <neurosis> as long as its easy to get rid of in the end
[06:08] <Tim> whats the code?
[06:08] <orbin> n00b: wiki.ubuntu.com
[06:08] <t1n_l0tus> http://pastebin.com/643488 is the first time I tried to make, then I tried a make install even though it errored, then I re-built, re-make'd and got this : http://pastebin.com/643489
[06:08] <Dr_Willis> !wiki
[06:08] <n00b> can I use this for VPN server
[06:08] <neurosis> i read somewhere that it helps to learn security holes in your system
[06:08] <DBO> neurosis, it wont tell you EXACTLY what its doing (like what command it executes), but it asks questions and gives you a general feel of what its doing
[06:08] <devnull> hello .. on boot i am getting cannot mount root device ... vfs error .. what does that mean ?
[06:08] <UbuntuNewbie> hello everyone
[06:08] <amphi> Tim: grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf  | tail -n1
[06:08] <Tim> sorry im a total noob,my friend said this was easyer than windows
[06:08] <DBO> neurosis, if you are looking for security holes on your system, get nessus (CAUTION, running a nessus scan over the internet is a crime)
[06:09] <UbuntuNewbie> i finally got my internet radio working with rhytmbox
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> Tim,  once you learn the fundamentals it is.
[06:09] <neurosis> DBO: dont you have to pay for nessus?
[06:09] <DBO> neurosis, not for personal use
[06:09] <rheo> what's the command for installing packages again?
[06:09] <neurosis> oh cool
[06:09] <neurosis> maybe i'll give that a shot
[06:09] <amphi> Tim: it's certainly easier to use; it may not be as easy to learn (especially as you have to 'unlearn' windows)
[06:09] <t1n_l0tus> rheo apt-get install <name?
[06:09] <neurosis> i thought it was pay software
[06:09] <IdleOne> rheo, sudo apt-get install
[06:09] <rheo> ya
[06:09] <rheo> that's the one
[06:09] <neurosis> DBO: thanks
[06:09] <rheo> thanks
[06:09] <t1n_l0tus> rheo try apt-cache search <keywords>
[06:09] <rheo> totally zoned it
[06:09] <DBO> neurosis, bastille linux is a good idea, learn how to chroot stuff too, chroot is one of your best tools for securing applications on your box
[06:10] <saskia> or use synaptics, search
[06:10] <Tim> thanks, Ill go try this command
[06:10] <UbuntuNewbie> ill leave the Totem player
[06:10] <cmmedina> part
[06:10] <neurosis> DBO: ive been planning on learning chroot. I will be reading up on it soon
[06:10] <UbuntuNewbie> i don't even know where to get Totem movie player working
[06:10] <DBO> neurosis, one last thing, bastille linux will not work with its GUI in ubuntu (can be fixed, but not worth it), just run it in text mode
[06:10] <arrick> !adduser
[06:10] <ubotu> arrick: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:10] <ubuntu_rules> !mp3
[06:10] <ubotu> mp3 is probably a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:10] <nick|here> anyone get success with splashy?
[06:10] <arrick> what is the adduser wiki?
[06:10] <ubuntu_rules> UbuntuNewbie, check that link
[06:10] <arrick> !users
[06:10] <ubotu> arrick: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:11] <arrick> !user
[06:11] <ubotu> arrick: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:11] <saskia> try useradd
[06:11] <avr> UbuntuNewbie: http://www.cs.cornell.edu/~djm/ubuntu/ <--- this guide has info i believe
[06:11] <arrick> 1useradd
[06:11] <arrick> !useradd
[06:11] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, arrick
[06:11] <ubuntu_rules> !botsnack
[06:11] <ubotu> :)
[06:11] <bimberi> !msgthebot
[06:11] <ubotu> Please message the bot (me) in private, more info about the bot: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[06:11] <neurosis> DBO: i ran freebsd before this and the security part was allot easier in bsd it just didnt make a very good desktop so now im trying to learn to secure linux so i dont have to worry
[06:11] <neurosis> :p
[06:12] <DBO> neurosis, ubuntu is FAIRLY secure out of the box (minux that clear text password thing) since it doesnt have any external listening services
[06:12] <pinkmermaid> Mmmkay... Here's my trauma: I installed the proprietary ATI drivers earlier today, and now when I play video in VLC it seems all blury... anyone have any ideas? :)
[06:12] <neurosis> DBO: has the clear text thing been fixed? thats the root password right?
[06:12] <orbin> do we get affected by spyware?
[06:13] <UbuntuNewbie> btw ubuntu_rules did i tell you i got my browser working now
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> pinkmermaid,  hmm.. vlc has tons of settings ya could twiddle with.
[06:13] <amphi> pinkmermaid: fglrx is well-known to induce trauma ;)
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> pinkmermaid,  the video was on befor that?
[06:13] <arrick> hey amphi, I am trying to add guest as a user on my samba share, can yo help me out?
[06:13] <DBO> neurosis, yes, it is one of the first patches that gets applied to your system with synaptics, it is not the root password but the password of the sudo account
[06:13] <arrick> evening DBO
[06:13] <amphi> arrick: use swat
[06:13] <bimberi> neurosis: it is there on a fresh install but if you update it's gone
[06:13] <DBO> evening arrick, how are things at the battlefront?
[06:13] <arrick> not good
[06:13] <amphi> heh
[06:13] <pinkmermaid> Dr_Willis, yeah, I was playing a video before I did the drivers and it looked great.
[06:14] <neurosis> im glad i ran the update last night thebn
[06:14] <neurosis> :(
[06:14] <DBO> arrick, smbpasswd is the command you want
[06:14] <neurosis> what a terrible mistake
[06:14] <bur[n] er> can samba be set to be anonymous so that no username and password is required?
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> pinkmermaid,  odd....
[06:14] <ubuntu_rules> UbuntuNewbie, no you didnt but im glad its working right now....
[06:14] <amphi> pinkmermaid: there's a moral in that story somewhere...
[06:14] <arrick> been trying too get info to get this **9)) fpt/samba share up all night
[06:14] <bur[n] er> security=share as opposed to security=user correct?
[06:14] <arrick> smbpasswd does no good if the user is not in the system
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> using samba book - free online - legal even! ---> http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html
[06:14] <Puter> Anyone know much about SQUID about ?
[06:14] <amphi> arrick: ftp and samba have nothing to do with each other
[06:14] <arrick> Iknopw
[06:14] <pinkmermaid> Guess I don't get to use the ATI drivers >.>
[06:14] <UbuntuNewbie> i had to turn off IPv6
[06:14] <DBO> arrick, do a useradd
[06:15] <amphi> Dr_Willis: it's even in the bot's factoid *sigh*
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> pinkmermaid,  ive never noticed any issues with them. whats your video card?
[06:15] <arrick> nobody will help me with the ftp, all keep telling me to use samba and I am gettign cranky
[06:15] <ubuntu_rules> ah
[06:15] <pinkmermaid> Dr_Willis, AIW Radeon 8500DV
[06:15] <DBO> arrick, what FTP server are you using?
[06:15] <arrick> DBO, tried the useradd, wont lock the password
[06:15] <Puter> Anyone know what a signal 6 is ?localhost squid[7943] : Squid Parent: child process 7945 exited due to signal 6
[06:15] <bur[n] er> arrick: what ftp server and you want anonymous access?
[06:15] <ZeZu> how do i enable hw accel in the i810 driver ?
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> arrick,  ssh  and 'winscp' is handy :P
[06:15] <arrick> yeah
[06:15] <DBO> arrick, I can help with ProFTPD and WU-FTPd
[06:15] <arrick> I got those already
[06:15] <arrick> I have proftpd DBO
[06:15] <pinkmermaid> You know, maybe I'm just imagining things.
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> pinkmermaid,  could do some googling and see if anyone else has noticed.. the vlc homepage has a forum also
[06:16] <amphi> pinkmermaid: 8500 is supported by the xorg driver it seems, from man radeon
[06:16] <arrick> and ssh and winscp
[06:16] <DBO> arrick, that one is easy to use, what do you wish to do with it?
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> pinkmermaid,  :P thats what i was  going to say as welll..
[06:16] <arrick> but I want public share
[06:16] <arrick> I cant even log in myself
[06:16] <pinkmermaid> Dr_Willis, It -does- look a little more pixelated than it did on Windows >.>
[06:16] <amphi> pinkmermaid: no need for fglrx
[06:16] <DBO> arrick, to FTP or samba?
[06:17] <arrick> I prefer ftp
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> pinkmermaid,  drink a few beers and be done with it! :p
[06:17] <arrick> cant log into either right now
[06:17] <saskia> samba exists because of M$
[06:17] <amphi> I believe mplayer can blur/smooth
[06:17] <t1n_l0tus> idleone any ideas?
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> vlc has a lot of video effects also - i belive
[06:17] <DBO> arrick, do you need the ftp internet accessable?
[06:17] <amphi> saskia: actually, I think IBM started it
[06:17] <ZeZu> !i810
[06:17] <ubotu> ZeZu: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:18] <saskia> amphi: the netbios/netbeui thing ?
[06:18] <neurosis> DBO: is nessus more thurough than nmap?
[06:18] <DBO> neurosis, much more
[06:18] <arrick> DBO,  I was told to install samba to be able to ftp from windows into my server, so I booted to ubuntu and find the same error here, please check this out and help me out. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11562
[06:18] <neurosis> thas almost scary
[06:18] <arrick> yeah
[06:18] <neurosis> :|
[06:18] <amphi> saskia: netbios IIRC, dunno about the other thing - I could easily be wrong though
[06:18] <DBO> arrick, samba is used for file shares, not FTP
[06:18] <arrick> I need it internet accesable please
[06:18] <orbin> ZeZu: hit the forum.  but afaik, the only rendering you'll get is via mesa
[06:19] <Tim> Hi i tryed grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf |tail -n1 and it spit out driver "ATI" so i restarted and it did what it was doing befor
[06:19] <arrick> I thought so too, but everybody kept saying "SAMBA SAMBA"
[06:19] <orbin> Tim: i just told you that to find out what driver you were using
[06:19] <soop> stupid question ... whats the repository i can find macromedia flash in
[06:19] <arrick> evening orbin
[06:19] <DBO> arrick... it is handy, but we can do FTP
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> !flash
[06:19] <ZeZu> orbin, i just had it working fine in SuSE
[06:19] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:19] <soop> and whats the name of the package
[06:19] <ZeZu> it definitely works
[06:19] <arrick> good, thats what I would like to do please
[06:20] <JAyRULE> do i need to install GOSA to run pureFTP?
[06:20] <Tim> ok, so ehat should I have it do next, and thanks for all the help so far
[06:20] <orbin> Tim: ok, the kernel's ati driver doesn't work with your card.  do you want to get ati.com's one now(fglrx) ... or just get a working desktop?
[06:20] <DBO> arrick, do you have proftp installed?
[06:20] <arrick> yep DBO
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> ftp is evil. :P lol.
[06:20] <orbin> arrick: hello, arrick.
[06:20] <amphi> Tim: that command was only to extract the name of the driver you are currently using; it won't affect the config
[06:20] <arrick> if i could create teeth on here id bite you Dr_Willis
[06:20] <DBO> arrick, ok, open (with sudo) /etc/proftpd.conf in your favorite text editor (like vi)
[06:20] <arrick> hehe
[06:20] <orbin> arrick: heh, that 2nd "arrick" was redundant wasn't it? :P
[06:20] <amphi> arrick: you want world+dog to upload, or only download?
[06:20] <Tim> get a working desktop
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> arrick,  samas about a 1 min setup. :P
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> samba. But ya just GOT to have annonymouus...
[06:21] <Tim> how whould i do the other?
[06:21] <amphi> Dr_Willis: you smug smegger ;)
[06:21] <ZeZu> Why would it work in SuSE and not in ubuntu ?
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> I  spent MANY a day reading that 'using samba' however. :P and twiddled a lot with it! i Paid my Dues!
[06:21] <arrick> ok DBO
[06:21] <Tim> whould the other make ubuntu work as in *FIXED*
[06:21] <arrick> open
[06:21] <harisund> Is there a way to do fast user switching in Gnome? I mean, I am currently logged in with some open documents, windows etc. My friend wants to log in too, but I don't want to log off and lose my current set of open files. Is it possible?
[06:22] <orbin> Tim: fglrx?
[06:22] <DBO> arrick, there are lots of changes here to be made, pastebin the config, and I will modify it for you
[06:22] <tonyyarusso> What's the command that shows my TCP/IP connections, and do I have a log of recent ones?
[06:22] <carthik> harisund, applications->system tools->new login
[06:22] <DBO> arrick, I am currently using WU-FTPd, so I dont have a copy
[06:22] <carthik> harisund, you may have to enable the menu item to see it first
[06:22] <harisund> carthik, that was totally awesome. Thanks a ton !
[06:22] <Stadsport> This is a support channel, right? :X
[06:22] <orbin> Tim: you have two choices of driver: 'vesa' hopefully gives you a working desktop but you won't get 3d accel.  fglrx provides both 2d and 3d
[06:22] <Tim> I dont know what that is, but if it will fix my comp, then yes
[06:22] <arrick> ok
[06:22] <arrick> hang on
[06:23] <Stadsport> Of course...
[06:23] <amphi> tonyyarusso: netstat -t
[06:23] <Tim> i need 3d accel.
[06:23] <amphi> tonyyarusso: iptraf is handy
[06:23] <arrick> !pastebim
[06:23] <ubotu> arrick: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:23] <slavik> Tim: install fglrx
[06:23] <arrick> !pastebin
[06:23] <ubotu> rumour has it, pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[06:23] <soop> which repository do i want for flash though?
[06:23] <soop> !flash
[06:23] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:23] <amphi> Tim: what is your card?
[06:23] <soop> !repository
[06:23] <ubotu> soop: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:23] <Tim> how whould i do that
[06:23] <tonyyarusso> amphi, will those tell me current only or can I recover the last half hour somehow?
[06:23] <orbin> Tim: is this a 32 bit sys.?
[06:23] <slavik> tim, listen to amphi :)
[06:24] <DBO> arrick, do you need internet access to this server?
[06:24] <amphi> tonyyarusso: current, and perhaps some old ones that haven't closed yet
[06:24] <DBO> arrick, are you running a firewall too?
[06:24] <slavik> tim, use pastben and post the output of "sudo lspci -v"
[06:24] <slavik> not into this channel
[06:24] <orbin> Tim: heh, well, i'll leave you to these guys then.  they seem to want to take over.
[06:24] <JAyRULE> im trying to follow the directions on the ubuntu website for installing pureftpd...and im stuck on the 3rd step hhaha
[06:24] <tonyyarusso> amphi: Are there logs?
[06:24] <Tim> sorry im liiking
[06:24] <JAyRULE> there's NO file that it is askin for
[06:24] <Tim> one moment
[06:24] <arrick> no firewall, i need internet access
[06:24] <arrick> DBO, ^^
[06:24] <amphi> tonyyarusso: of what? your outbound connections?
[06:25] <DBO> arrick, behind a router?
[06:25] <arrick> yeah
[06:25] <DBO> arrick, how many users?
[06:25] <arrick> the port is forwarded
[06:25] <arrick> public
[06:25] <tonyyarusso> amphi: Yeah.  I want to know the IP of someone I just sent a file to.
[06:25] <Tim> i have a ATI radeon XPRESS 200 and a AMD 64 Athlon
[06:25] <DBO> arrick, you need more than 20 and 21, you will need a lot of high range ports for passive ftp
[06:25] <soop> anyone?
[06:25] <slavik> tim, laptop?
[06:25] <DBO> arrick, I meant what kind of load do you get.  I need to know about how many ports you will need
[06:25] <arrick> ok which ones?
[06:26] <Tim> no desktop HP Meadia center PC, Pavilion a1253w
[06:26] <DBO> arrick, I can define them, but I need to know what kind of load
[06:26] <slavik> tim, you have 32bit of ubuntu installed?
[06:26] <amphi> tonyyarusso: no, I doubt you can find that
[06:26] <Tim> no the 64
[06:26] <slavik> ooh
[06:26] <orbin> slavik, amphi :  he has an xpress 200
[06:26] <arrick> not that much of a load, only if I am helping someone with windows problems and they need a disc or something
[06:26] <slavik> orbin: same as me ;)
[06:26] <tonyyarusso> amphi: All right.
[06:26] <amphi> orbin: I saw, don't blame me
[06:26] <DBO> arrick, ok, give me pastebin
[06:26] <Siph0n> has anyone here ever used Kermit?
[06:26] <arrick> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11565
[06:26] <arrick> dbo^^
[06:27] <slavik> I am not sure if the ati driver supports 64bit ... I think it does though
[06:27] <pinkmermaid> There... I've changed xorg.conf over to the radeon driver and all seems well.
[06:27] <rob_p> ZeZu:  Did you get it figured out yet?
[06:27] <amphi> orbin: life is so much more pleasant at the trailing edge ;)
[06:27] <arrick> DBO, ^^
[06:27] <DBO> arrick, give me some time to edit it, shouldnt take TOO long...
[06:27] <arrick> YEP
[06:27] <amphi> pinkmermaid: cool
[06:27] <orbin> amphi: indeed
[06:27] <arrick> sorry about the caps
[06:27] <slavik> tim, what is your current resolution?
[06:27] <jhan100> where i can to get ati drivers for the xorg 7.0 ??
[06:27] <slavik> jhan100: try the ati site?
[06:27] <Joetheodd> Hey, my computer crashed with synaptic running and now I can't run apt-get or synaptic. Can someone tell me how to remove the lock file?
[06:27] <pinkmermaid> Can I still do 3D stuff with the radeon driver?
[06:28] <slavik> jhan100: I don't think there are xorg 7 drivers from ati yet
[06:28] <jhan100> yeap .. but i dont found
[06:28] <slavik> pinkmermaid: possibly
[06:28] <amphi> Joetheodd: it'll be in /var/lock I expect
[06:28] <Tim> 1280X1024
[06:28] <slavik> tim, good
[06:28] <ZeZu> pinkmermaid, @ very few fps
[06:28] <ZeZu> like 2
[06:28] <ZeZu> if your lucky
[06:28] <pinkmermaid> Oooooh.
[06:28] <slavik> tim, go to ati.com and download the driver :)
[06:28] <Tim> i have a 17" hp lcd
[06:28] <arrick> hey DBO if you join #arrick, you can paste into there
[06:28] <slavik> then run it
[06:29] <ubuntu_rules> !ati
[06:29] <ubotu> I guess ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[06:29] <jhan100> slavik:  and the fglrx of synaptic dont work ..  :/
[06:29] <Zoroaster> is it possible for a windows 2000 dns server to not like a linux client?
[06:29] <Tim> how whould i run it in linux? im on a windows right now
[06:29] <slavik> in options select "generate distrbution specific package" or what ever it is (not the install driver one
[06:29] <ZeZu> so no one knows how to enable hardware rendering ?
[06:29] <slavik> tim, it would run like an installer
[06:29] <amphi> Joetheodd: sorry, it appears to be /var/cache/apt/archives/lock
[06:29] <slavik> ati has guides there with screen shots :)
[06:29] <ZeZu> it does say direct rendering is enabled, but doesn't seem to be
[06:29] <ZeZu> and the driver does support it, but isn't working
[06:29] <orbin> Tim: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI (slavik is telling you to use the ati.com method described here)
[06:29] <Tim> in linux i only have command line because no Xserver
[06:30] <Xnos> hi.. somebody have the headphones issue on intel hd sound card
[06:30] <Xnos> ?
[06:30] <ZeZu> Tim, wth you need drivers for then?
[06:30] <amphi> Tim: you don't really _need_ X... ;)
[06:30] <slavik> orbin: that page needs to be changed so it has the commandline version use of the tool
[06:30] <ZeZu> nothing will use them
[06:30] <soop> !multiverse
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[06:30] <slavik> because that program makes a large screen that doesn't fit in 768 vertical res
[06:30] <orbin> slavik: i see.
[06:30] <vertighost> !multiverse
[06:30] <rob_p> ZeZu:  Does the output of, "glxinfo" say that it's active?
[06:31] <ZeZu> glxinfo says direct rendering yes
[06:31] <Tim> wow, Im a noob, but i dont get any of that
[06:31] <slavik> something like, at-driver.bin --distribution-list or something gives the list of distros
[06:31] <ZeZu> don't get any of what ?
[06:31] <jhan100> slavik:  i search but I dont found ati driver for the xorg 7.0 .. :/  just for the 6.9
[06:31] <slavik> then ati-drivername.bin --makedistro distroname
[06:31] <ZeZu> and why are you looking for a driver for console mode ?
[06:31] <amphi> ZeZu: what does glxgears give you?
[06:31] <slavik> jhan100: then there is no driver
[06:31] <slavik> you can try the xorg6.9 one
[06:31] <pinkmermaid> Hmmm... I guess in the end, I like watching videos much more than 3D gaming. x)
[06:31] <ZeZu> amphi its not outputting a fps count even
[06:31] <slavik> jhan100: that's why I am still on badger :)
[06:31] <ZeZu> looks like about 2 fps
[06:31] <amphi> ZeZu: heheh
[06:31] <rob_p> ZeZu:  The third line (or so) should say, "direct rendering: Yes" if it's active.
[06:32] <jhan100> ok thanks..
[06:32] <jhan100> :)
[06:32] <intelikey> tim what are you trying to accomplish, and what error are you getting ?
[06:32] <ZeZu> ZeZu glxinfo says direct rendering y
[06:32] <ZeZu> third time
[06:32] <Zoroaster> i know that in the resolv.conf file you can make ubuntu aware of the dns server by making a nameserver "dns server" entry
[06:32] <slavik> intelikey: no error... just need him to install ati driver :P
[06:32] <slavik> ZeZu: what card and what module?
[06:32] <Zoroaster> how and where do you make ubuntu aware of a WINS or netbios name server that is on the network
[06:33] <ZeZu> 865
[06:33] <ZeZu> and i810 module
[06:33] <Tim> well i got the driver, so how do i install it
[06:33] <slavik> that's a slow chip ... you know that right?
[06:33] <slavik> tim, you run it ...
[06:33] <slavik> and then select generate distribution release thingy
[06:33] <slavik> the one that is NOT "install driver"
[06:34] <Tim> o the error i get is fatal server error caught signal 11 server abourting
[06:34] <soop> !multiverse
[06:34] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[06:34] <Zoroaster> can anyone think of why my ubuntu server wont ping my dns server?  I get "if you want to ping broadcast blah blah"
[06:34] <immerohnegott> hey all....i just compiled kernel 2.6.15.1 and my wireless card (IPW2200) isn't showing up under the network manager? anyone have any ideas?
[06:34] <soop> !easysource
[06:34] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[06:34] <rob_p> ZeZu:  And you believe it's actually not active even though it says it is?
[06:34] <diesel> If I login using GDM and select Sawfish for my session, will .xsession be read?
[06:34] <slavik> immerohnegott: modprobe?
[06:34] <ZeZu> i believe something is screwed up i can tell you that much ;p
[06:34] <Zoroaster> but the dns server can ping it, and everything else on my network can ping the dns server?
[06:34] <ZeZu> its _know_ something is screwed up i should say
[06:34] <amphi> immerohnegott: did you compile support for the card? if it's a module, did you modprobe the module?
[06:34] <slavik> are there any nice 3d mp games?
[06:34] <ZeZu> i just reinstalled ubuntu b/c i dont like SuSE
[06:35] <slavik> for linux
[06:35] <slavik> ubuntu > *
[06:35] <ZeZu> it worked fine in SuSE
[06:35] <ZeZu> doesn't work in ubuntu
[06:35] <orbin> slavik: #ubuntu-offtopic  but i'm told bzflag is addictive
[06:35] <immerohnegott> i compiled support for it, but i'm not familiar with the modprobe command (sorry, i'm a bit of a newbie)
[06:35] <Mersault> my system locked up while I was installing a package (the lockup itself was an xscreensaver problem, not related to the installation), and I had to cold-reboot. now apt-get and dpkg are returning errors, and can't remove the half-installed package properly
[06:35] <vertighost> How do I VNC into VMware and use Ubuntu as a virtual machine?
[06:35] <Zoroaster> is ping response turned by default on ubuntu servers?
[06:35] <rob_p> ZeZu:  How are you verifying?  What indications are you getting?
[06:35] <Zoroaster> is ping response turned by default on ubuntu servers? do I need to enable somehow?
[06:36] <diesel> Zoroaster: check out /etc/resolv.conf to see if your nameserver is listed there
[06:36] <ZeZu> rob_p, how am i verifying what ?
[06:36] <ZeZu> the fact that its slow ?
[06:36] <ZeZu> easy, i run it and its slow
[06:36] <tonyyarusso> amphi: What if I have an open Skype connection with them?  Would that show up in iptraf or netstat?
[06:36] <Tim> so now what, i need a graphical interface
[06:36] <diesel> Zoroaster: How did you get your an ip address for you ubuntu server?
[06:37] <ZeZu> that doesn't make me think its working ya know ?
[06:37] <soop> anyone care to share with me which repository url has flash for dapper?
[06:37] <immerohnegott> slavik: i compiled support, but i didn't modprobe anything
[06:37] <ZeZu> would you say, hey, i think DRI is working great @ 2fps using hardware ?
[06:37] <slavik> is there a util to list all packages that aren't needed by any other packages?
[06:38] <vertighost> How do I VNC into VMware and use Ubuntu as a virtual machine?
[06:39] <intelikey> if anyone knows how to setup a null modem (laplink) connection, could you help me out here ?
[06:39] <rob_p> ZeZu:  What tool are you using to gauge performance?
[06:39] <ZeZu> .....
[06:40] <ZeZu> the fact that the gears are not spinning
[06:40] <ZeZu> or spinning very very slowly
[06:40] <ZeZu> would you like me to get some type of performance tester perhaps so i can tell you that its 2.38200123 instead of just slow ?
[06:40] <rob_p> ZeZu:  Ah... glxgears, I presume.  I see.
[06:40] <ZeZu> yes
[06:41] <pinkmermaid> Is there a difference between the 'radeon' and 'ati' drivers? :3
[06:41] <orbin> ZeZu: glxgears -printfps
[06:41] <ZeZu> the radeon driver is the "ati" driver
[06:41] <ZeZu> the proprietary driver is "fglrx"
[06:42] <orbin> yes, but there's a "radeon" driver too iirc
[06:42] <ZeZu> they both suck, but the fglrx has a chance at delivering some hardware performance
[06:42] <ZeZu> eh? isn't it just an alias for the ati driver ?
[06:42] <ZeZu> on my 9800 pro with the "ati" driver i can at least watch vids
[06:43] <intelikey> hmmm with glxgears i get 45.200 fps
[06:44] <orbin> ZeZu: that's the question.  are they different or what?  see 'man radeon'.  it's no Driver "ati", but Driver "radeon"
[06:44] <orbin> s/no/not
[06:45] <intelikey> on the box beside me i get 56.500
[06:45] <ZeZu> orbin, thats what i'm saying, i don't think so but i guess its possible, maybe the "radeon" driver attempts to provide some hardware accel.
[06:46] <orbin> blazing intelikey, blazing ;)
[06:47] <intelikey> orbin yeah for a p1 with isa vidio not bad
[06:48] <bsdfox> my old laptop w/ radeon 7500 gets 2000fps in glxgears
[06:48] <intelikey> 2000 fps ?
[06:49] <intelikey> why do i doubt that ?
[06:49] <ZeZu> its not even textures, its only a few polys
[06:49] <bsdfox> because you suck?
[06:50] <bsdfox> inspiron 5100
[06:50] <intelikey> mmmmm no that's not it.
[06:50] <Mersault> I'm having problems with my ubuntu system. xscreensaver caused my system to lock up earlier today while I was installing mjpegtools, and now apt-get and dpkg are having problems. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11566 has the details. apt knows that the package needs to be removed, but because the post-removal script fails, the whole operation fails, and I can't re-install either.
[06:50] <Mersault> Can someone please lend me a hand?
[06:51] <neurosis> .
[06:51] <bsdfox> h36sa@toad ~ $ date
[06:51] <bsdfox> Wed Apr  5 21:50:56 PDT 2006
[06:51] <bsdfox> h36sa@toad ~ $ glxgears -printfps
[06:51] <bsdfox> Disabling HW TCL support
[06:51] <bsdfox> 10214 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2042.749 FPS
[06:51] <bsdfox> 10202 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2040.376 FPS
[06:51] <bsdfox> 10182 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2036.345 FPS
[06:51] <bsdfox> 10093 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2018.550 FPS
[06:52] <bsdfox> 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M7 LW [Radeon Mobility 7500] 
[06:52] <intelikey> nice flood.... got any more ?
[06:52] <Tallia1Kubuntu> what is the name of the program that make a sheep go around the screen?
[06:53] <bsdfox> intelikey, you need to install a newer DRI snapshot
[06:53] <psyoptik> hey
[06:53] <bsdfox> that bumped me frtom like 220fps to 1700fps
[06:54] <DarkMageZ> bsdfox: is the new DRI snapshot included in dapper?
[06:54] <bsdfox> http://www.8cylinder.org/i5100
[06:54] <xerophyte> does dapper comes with KDE??
[06:54] <bsdfox> DarkMageZ, nope.. I installed a 3-22-06 (newest at the time) snapshot and it works great
[06:54] <xerophyte> i mean its removing all the KDE application when i ugprade just wondering
[06:55] <DarkMageZ> xerophyte, dapper repo's include kubuntu (kde)
[06:55] <intelikey> Mersault try   sudo apt-get -u --reinstall --fix-missing install libmjpegtools0
[06:56] <xerophyte> DarkMageZ,  do you have sourcelist for it
[06:56] <intelikey> bsdfox i don't think so.   dri on a console box is.... hehhe well useless.
[06:56] <xerophyte> i think i have the basic dapper repos only
[06:56] <Mersault> intelikey: thanks!
[06:57] <slippy> Anyone want help With Any Counter-Stike HLDS server install?
[06:57] <PwcrLinux> gn all :)
[06:57] <nworbnosaj> !multiverse
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[06:57] <arrick> !offtopic
[06:57] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[06:57] <bsdfox> uh sorry that website wasn't updated 1 sec..
[06:57] <DarkMageZ> xerophyte, http://pastebin.com/643539 (it's my list, so it's got extra stuff)
[06:58] <DarkMageZ> xerophyte, u might want to trimm off the special xgl repo :)
[06:58] <pppoe_dude> whats the package name for the C man peages?
[06:58] <pppoe_dude> *pages
[06:59] <zhLilDoggi> anyone around to help?
[06:59] <prionic> yeah
[06:59] <intelikey> i need a networking wiz .
[06:59] <zhLilDoggi> good...my sound drivers didn't install...and my sound card is a Sound Blaster 128
[06:59] <lakcaj> pppoe_dude, man gcc?
[06:59] <slavik> what ya need help with?
[07:00] <bsdfox> ok.. updated it- http://www.8cylinder.org/i5100/
[07:00] <pppoe_dude> lakcaj, i want more like "man strcat" etc...
[07:00] <htrp> when is dapper comin out?
[07:00] <slavik> 6/1
[07:00] <prionic> june 1st
[07:00] <bsdfox> I thought you were complaining about getting 50fps with a 9800?
[07:00] <zhLilDoggi> soo...looking to see how to install the drivers
[07:01] <hyphenated> pppoe_dude: install manpages-dev
[07:01] <prionic> sound is overated. forget the drivers and hire a elderly person to hum the sounds for you
[07:01] <prionic> soooothing
[07:01] <zhLilDoggi> ...lol
[07:01] <pppoe_dude> zhLilDoggi, paste lspci and dmesg to pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org
[07:01] <DarkMageZ> bsdfox, do u think the new dri snapshot will help my ut2k4? im running dapper on an ati 9600se
[07:01] <prionic> what kind of sound card do you have?
[07:01] <pppoe_dude> hyphenated, thanks
[07:01] <ZeZu> anjuta is giving me an error .. it runs autogen.sh and spits out an error that i must have glib installed and i can get it from the gtk website
[07:01] <ZeZu> but its already installed ;|
[07:02] <hyphenated> ZeZu: the libraries are installed, but probably not the -dev package, which you need to compile stuff
[07:02] <zhLilDoggi> I looked at my PC specs and they said Sound Blaster 128
[07:02] <zhLilDoggi> pppoe_dude, and I can find that where?
[07:02] <zhLilDoggi> god I'm such a n00b
[07:03] <rheo> how would i check to see if i have the imagemagick library installed?
[07:03] <pppoe_dude> zhLilDoggi, type 'lspci' at a command prompt
[07:03] <zhLilDoggi> kk
[07:03] <ZeZu> hyphenated, yea i'm installing them now maybe thats what it wants but its not a GTK project
[07:03] <pppoe_dude> zhLilDoggi, and ditto for dmes
[07:03] <ZeZu> its just a console app using sdl
[07:03] <pppoe_dude> g
[07:03] <bsdfox> DarkMageZ, what glxgears score do you get
[07:03] <zhLilDoggi> k
[07:04] <hyphenated> ZeZu: gtk and glib have historical ties together
[07:04] <bsdfox> DarkMageZ, I would guess yes but if you've got a fairly recent one already it probably won't do much if anything
[07:04] <hyphenated> ZeZu: that's why you can _get_ glib from gtk.org or whatever. but they are two very distinct libraries and purposes
[07:04] <ZeZu> yea i guess sdl prob needs to compile against gtk
[07:05] <DarkMageZ> bsdfox, hmm, glxgears is missing...
[07:05] <orbin> rheo: dpkg -l libmagick6-dev
[07:05] <bsdfox> uhoh :)
[07:05] <bsdfox> what kinda framerate in UT2004 do you get
[07:05] <bsdfox> like 5?
[07:05] <DarkMageZ> 15-60
[07:05] <bsdfox> yeah you should get better framerate
[07:06] <DarkMageZ> wit an amd athlon 2100+ 768mb ddr 333. 1024x768x32 max detail :P
[07:06] <rheo> orbin:  thanks..  i just did an apt-get install imagemagick
[07:06] <orbin> rheo: general form: dpkg -l <package> ... if it shows ii on the left column, it's installed
[07:06] <zhLilDoggi> pppoe_dude,  bash: ditto: command not found
[07:06] <bsdfox> oh max detail?
[07:06] <bsdfox> yeah probably not..
[07:06] <orbin> rheo: ah, ok :)
[07:06] <bsdfox> sounds like your dri is already working
[07:06] <bsdfox> it was easy to install though
[07:07] <rheo> orbin..  but i think i need the dev library as well
[07:07] <intelikey> zhLilDoggi if you do a " . /etc/bash_completion && modprobe snd-sb[tab-key]  "   you might find a driver there that will work... depending on the release you are running and if 128 is in that release.
[07:07] <pppoe_dude> zhLilDoggi, type dmesg
[07:07] <pinkmermaid> Is there a way to get VLC to play winamp NSV?
[07:07] <DarkMageZ> bsdfox, altho... whats funny is that when i turn the detailing down, the fps doesn't increase, lol
[07:07] <bsdfox> try turning on antialiasing
[07:07] <bsdfox> I get better fps
[07:07] <DarkMageZ> bsdfox, your kidding?
[07:07] <DBO> turning it on?
[07:07] <DBO> bsdfox, that makes... zero sense...
[07:08] <orbin> rheo: yeah, you said library, that's why i gave you the -dev package
[07:08] <rheo> right..  i just tried apt-get install imagemagick-dev but it didn't do anything
[07:09] <orbin> rheo: that's not the package name
[07:09] <orbin> rheo: search for magick
[07:09] <devnull> i am wondering how i can remove a package that fails divert ?
[07:09] <orbin> and get the relevant -dev package
[07:09] <intelikey> i don't see any imagemagick-dev  just the  imagemagick package
[07:09] <bsdfox> I know
[07:10] <bsdfox> my buddy had the same results
[07:10] <zhLilDoggi> pppoe_dude - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11567
[07:10] <zhLilDoggi> intelikey - I'll try that
[07:10] <bsdfox> these were with athlon64/nvidia 6xxx cards
[07:10] <hyphenated> intelikey: it's probably libmagick6-dev
[07:10] <arrick> w?
[07:10] <orbin> intelikey: yep, that's not what the dev package is called
[07:10] <rheo> wow.. lots of dependencies
[07:11] <rheo> libmagick6-dev
[07:11] <orbin> rheo: a few of them may already be installed
[07:12] <clever`sleeping> why does my ubuntu default to the ip of clever.mine.nu when it gets a dns error:S
[07:12] <clever`sleeping> its anowing
[07:12] <clever`sleeping> anoying*
[07:12] <intelikey> libmagick6-dev - Image manipulation library -- development
[07:12] <orbin> rheo: and that's nothing really.  try installing packages w/ dependencies on a system w/out a net connection
[07:13] <rheo> what kind of system doesn't have a net connection anyway?
[07:13] <intelikey> orbin do that one one that you can only put new data on via floppy disk  :)
[07:13] <rheo> ;-)
[07:14] <bsdfox> a pos
[07:14] <arrick> night all
[07:14] <apollo> !sources
[07:14] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[07:14] <DBO> ok, whose next?
[07:14] <orbin> intelikey: well, i did copy some small .deb packages via floppy :)
[07:15] <pppoe_dude> zhLilDoggi, what kind of symptoms are you getting? just can't hear anything?
[07:16] <intelikey> hehhe orbin i guess i had too much time to kill, but i installed mdk9.0 on a 486 lappy via floppies.
[07:16] <intelikey> DBO me.  you ever setup a laplink ?
[07:16] <DBO> intelikey, you mean over parallel ports?
[07:17] <intelikey> serial
[07:17] <intelikey> null modem
[07:17] <orbin> intelikey: eek :)
[07:17] <crimsun> zhLilDoggi: pastebin the output from: ``lspnp -v && cat /proc/asound/cards && amixer -c0''
[07:17] <zhLilDoggi> pppoe_dude, yeah, and volume control says no device found
[07:18] <zhLilDoggi> crimsun, one second
[07:18] <pppoe_dude> zhLilDoggi, try from a terminal "sudo esd" do you get a funny sound?
[07:18] <DBO> intelikey, yes I HAVE... but I cant say I have done it in recent times or that I remember how... why not just use a crossover cable?
[07:18] <devnull> what would cause a package to through a dpkg-divert: mismatch ?
[07:19] <psyoptik> does anyone know why I might be getting this error when I try installing a tarball? "client.c:70: error: static declaration of client_list follows non-static declaration
[07:19] <psyoptik> client.h:234: error: previous declaration of client_list was here
[07:19] <psyoptik> client.c: In function clientFrame:
[07:19] <psyoptik> client.c:1638: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 4 of XGetWMNormalHints differ in signedness
[07:19] <psyoptik> client.c:1687: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 4 of getGnomeHint differ in signedness
[07:19] <psyoptik> client.c:1688: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 4 of getGnomeHint differ in signedness
[07:19] <psyoptik> client.c:1689: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 4 of getGnomeHint differ in signedness
[07:19] <psyoptik> make[2] : *** [xfwm4-client.o]  Error 1
[07:19] <psyoptik> make[2] : Leaving directory `/home/psyoptik/Desktop/xfwm4-020917/src'
[07:19] <zhLilDoggi> crimsun
[07:19] <psyoptik> make[1] : *** [all-recursive]  Error 1
[07:19] <zhLilDoggi> lspnp: /proc/bus/pnp not available
[07:19] <psyoptik> make[1] : Leaving directory `/home/psyoptik/Desktop/xfwm4-020917'
[07:19] <psyoptik> make: *** [all]  Error 2
[07:19] <psyoptik> "
[07:19] <DBO> !paste
[07:19] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[07:19] <psyoptik> oh....ok
[07:19] <psyoptik> sorry
[07:19] <zhLilDoggi> pppoe_dude - no, I didn't
[07:19] <intelikey> DBO mmm because neither box has an eth interface and i don't have a crossover cable,  not to mention the fact that i'd be just as lost trying to set that up.....
[07:20] <zhLilDoggi> I know it works because it worked when I ran *cough*DamnSmallLinux*cough*
[07:21] <ubuntu_rules> DSL
[07:21] <orbin> psyoptik: bad code?
[07:21] <crimsun> zhLilDoggi: sudo modprobe snd-es18xx
[07:21] <DBO> intelikey, are these all debian based boxes?
[07:21] <orbin> psyoptik: what are you installing anyway?
[07:21] <intelikey> DBO yeah
[07:21] <sovieticool> i have some problem whit sound !
[07:21] <sovieticool> :(
[07:22] <crimsun> sovieticool: pastebin ``lspci -v && lspci -nv && cat /proc/asound/cards && amixer -c0''
[07:22] <ubuntu_rules> sovieticool, sound with what? totem, rythm? what?
[07:22] <mindmime> from breazy, how do I update to dapper?
[07:22] <zhLilDoggi> crimsun, nothing shows
[07:22] <zhLilDoggi> the HDD started hitting though
[07:22] <aabot> !upgrade
[07:22] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade.  Upgrading to dapper (remember it may break). Please test the dist-upgrader -> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html.
[07:22] <DBO> intelikey, try minicom
[07:22] <crimsun> zhLilDoggi: excellent. pastebin ``cat /proc/asound/cards && amixer -c0''
[07:22] <sovieticool> everytime when i open xmms i must play a little whit plugin to be able to play
[07:22] <orbin> crimsun: have you had the chance to make your sound help wiki page?
[07:23] <ubuntu_rules> !mp3
[07:23] <ubotu> well, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:23] <mindmime> =] 
[07:23] <pppoe_dude> zhLilDoggi, that just means module was loaded with no error
[07:23] <crimsun> orbin: no, I've been busy triaging bugs and fixing sound bugs
[07:23] <sovieticool> is enablet
[07:23] <ubuntu_rules> ?
[07:23] <zhLilDoggi> oh
[07:23] <zhLilDoggi> okay
[07:23] <intelikey> DBO doesn't show up as a command or a package to install ?
[07:23] <ubuntu_rules> multiverse enabled?
[07:23] <zhLilDoggi> meh...I need to learn linux more...since I got my CDs in the mail today
[07:23] <intelikey> ooops typo
[07:24] <DBO> intelikey, its a package to install
[07:24] <crimsun> sovieticool: what do you have to adjust in XMMS?
[07:24] <intelikey> hehhe i tried minicon my bad
[07:24] <ubuntu_rules> did you download the codecs?
[07:24] <sovieticool> audio/plugin
[07:24] <intelikey> DBO yeah i noticed
[07:24] <sovieticool> OSS DRIVER
[07:24] <zhLilDoggi> crimsun - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11568
[07:24] <crimsun> sovieticool: do you have to change it _to_ OSS or _from_ OSS?
[07:24] <ubuntu_rules> sovieticool, have you downloaded and installed the codecs?
[07:24] <sovieticool> if is OSS driver i must to put ALSA
[07:25] <sovieticool> and when is ALSA i must to put OSS driver to play my mp3
[07:25] <holycow> fark
[07:25] <sovieticool> yes i instaled the codec because now i play mp3
[07:25] <crimsun> zhLilDoggi: good, now is ``aplay /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav'' audible?
[07:25] <pppoe_dude> sovieticool, try killing esd as sudo. might be the esd bug
[07:25] <holycow> anyone have the latest tar.gz of the flash plugin from macromedia? their bloody site cant seem to download the plug
[07:26] <holycow> bozos
[07:26] <zhLilDoggi> yep!
[07:26] <crimsun> zhLilDoggi: good, now: echo snd-es18xx |sudo tee -a /etc/modules
[07:26] <zhLilDoggi> done
[07:26] <crimsun> zhLilDoggi: it should work henceforth
[07:27] <sovieticool> thys problem became to me when i try to enable 5.1 chanels !:(
[07:27] <intelikey> nice. if it works it's small enough to put on a floppy and no deps that aren't installed already by default....  good call DBO    if it works.....
[07:27] <crimsun> sovieticool: leave it on ALSA. Just change the ALSA device used to: "plug:surround51" instead of "default".
[07:28] <sovieticool> and now i hear only from to sattelites and is hearing distorsionet when is play iwhit maxim volume
[07:28] <DBO> intelikey, I like to think my googlefu can solve anything my lackluster intelligence cant
[07:28] <crimsun> sovieticool: then don't use max volume, and pastebin ``cat /proc/asound/cards && amixer -c0''
[07:29] <sovieticool> done
[07:29] <DBO> intelikey, if you are running ubuntu, I believe getty is already running, but you may have to launch it yourself
[07:29] <crimsun> sovieticool: url?
[07:29] <sovieticool> but i hear only in 2 speakers :(
[07:29] <crimsun> sovieticool: right, we haven't begun to troubleshoot yet
[07:29] <zhLilDoggi> crimsun - thanks, everything works perfect
[07:29] <crimsun> zhLilDoggi: np
[07:30] <devnull> i can't remove xorg-driver-fglrx ... i can't install any xdriver because of this and am stuck with no X, how can i fix this ?
[07:30] <sovieticool> maybe i'am not made for linux :(
[07:30] <pppoe_dude> sovieticool, no such thing
[07:30] <crimsun> sovieticool: what is the url of your paste?
[07:30] <sovieticool> cat /proc/asound/cards && amixer -c0
[07:30] <crimsun> sovieticool: no, I need the Web site url
[07:30] <pppoe_dude> sovieticool, we are all made for linux, you just have to wake that part of your brain up
[07:30] <zhLilDoggi> nah...Linux is easy once you learn the ups and downs
[07:31] <orbin> geeze, a lot of people are having trouble with the fglrx pack
[07:31] <sovieticool> :) thaks's guys
[07:31] <pppoe_dude> sovieticool, paste the output of this in paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[07:32] <orbin> devnull: for starters, what about just using the vesa driver to get X up
[07:32] <sovieticool> i put in in firefox
[07:32] <devnull> orbin i have no drivers at all
[07:32] <sovieticool> now what to rwite up
[07:32] <sovieticool> 5.1 enable or ... ?
[07:32] <devnull> not even vesa
[07:32] <orbin> devnull: vesa is part of the base install
[07:32] <devnull> okay
[07:33] <devnull> okay so i can use vesa ... how do i get rid of this stupid package ?
[07:33] <farous> denvull would you be able to restate your problem. if you have ati i might be able to help
[07:33] <orbin> devnull: pastebin the error/s for starters
[07:33] <crimsun> sovieticool: paste the info on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[07:33] <sovieticool> ok
[07:33] <devnull> orbin demo.jsecomputers.com/drew/LOG
[07:34] <orbin> devnull: firefox is telling me it's a BIN file
[07:34] <sovieticool> done
[07:34] <sovieticool> name sovieticool
[07:34] <devnull> orbin hmmmmmmmm
[07:34] <devnull> links is telling me it isn't
[07:34] <devnull> hold on
[07:35] <pppoe_dude> sovieticool, copy address from top then paste it here
[07:35] <devnull> shouldn't be
[07:35] <sovieticool> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11569
[07:35] <orbin> devnull:  hang on, i'll try again
[07:36] <ubuntu_rules> you can use winecfg to change what vers of windoze you want wine to run as right?
[07:36] <orbin> devnull: got it open
[07:36] <crimsun> sovieticool: unmute 'LFE' and increase its volume
[07:36] <crimsun> sovieticool: also, mute 'IEC958'
[07:36] <orbin> devnull: yep, like i said a few people have had that dpkg-divert issue.  i ddn't see an answer for them, sorry.   but i might have not been active
[07:36] <crimsun> sovieticool: finally, unmute 'Duplicate Front'
[07:37] <orbin> farous: any ideas for devnull ?
[07:37] <farous> orbin i do not know the prob. asked him to restate it but seems you are on top of it
[07:37] <devnull> right
[07:37] <devnull> orbin so this is a package bug as of today or something ?
[07:38] <sovieticool> IEC958 hwo to mute ?
[07:38] <crimsun> sovieticool: use ``alsamixer -c0''
[07:38] <sovieticool> because i don't know
[07:38] <ubuntu_rules> !botsnack
[07:38] <ubotu> :)
[07:38] <devnull> but since it can't be removed or upgraded because it can't be removed ... what can be done ?
[07:38] <crimsun> sovieticool: press 'm' to (un)mute
[07:38] <ubuntu_rules> !good bot
[07:38] <ubotu> thanks ubuntu_rules :)
[07:38] <orbin> farous: he can't remove a certain package: paste is here: demo.jsecomputers.com/drew/LOG
[07:38] <orbin> devnull: dunno, but i've seen it at least 2 times
[07:38] <pppoe_dude> ubotu: bad bot
[07:38] <ubotu> No, you're a bad person, pppoe_dude
[07:39] <orbin> heh, servers you right
[07:39] <orbin>  /msg the bot please
[07:39] <devnull> orbin are you talking for this package or in general ?
[07:39] <farous> hmm firefox say it is a bin file
[07:39] <orbin> devnull: the package.
[07:40] <orbin> farous: same here. it's just ascii text though
[07:40] <ubuntu_rules> is there a linux distro of itunes or a way to make wine install it?
[07:41] <intelikey> DBO minicom is all about dialing a modem and what-not   seems to only work for modems  not null modem  ?
[07:41] <sovieticool> hmm
[07:41] <devnull> orbin okay in general how would one remove a package that won't remove itself ?
[07:41] <sovieticool> i can't :(
[07:41] <sovieticool> i press m but don't work
[07:41] <DarkMageZ> ubuntu_rules, yes, there are afew tutorials to make itunes work under wine on the net, but wait for songbird, it's an itunes clone ^-^
[07:41] <DBO> intelikey, it should work with serial...
[07:42] <ubuntu_rules> DarkMageZ, when does songbird drop?
[07:42] <crimsun> sovieticool: when you press 'm', the "MM" should either appear or disappear
[07:42] <orbin> devnull: dunno sorry.  and i don't want to suggest anything that could break your sys.
[07:42] <sovieticool> he don't do nothing
[07:42] <DBO> intelikey, run "sudo mincom -s"
[07:42] <farous> devnull: are you using dapper
[07:42] <DBO> erm
[07:42] <DBO> intelikey, run "sudo minicom -s"
[07:42] <devnull> farous yes
[07:43] <sovieticool> MM is not exist there :(
[07:43] <DarkMageZ> ubuntu_rules, it's a long way off, if u are in a hurry, then wine would probley be the best option
[07:43] <intelikey> DBO ive not gotten it to yet.....  but not given up either.   i set it to the /dev/ttyS0    but still not working for me...  and yeah i alread did -s
[07:43] <farous> devnull: are you using xgl too
[07:43] <orbin> farous: good question.  i forgot to ask the other guys
[07:43] <crimsun> sovieticool: amixer sset 'LFE' on && amixer sset 'LFE' 31 && amixer sset 'IEC958' off && amixer sset 'Duplicate Front' on
[07:44] <DBO> intelikey, Ill keep looking, but at this point I have fallen back to google
[07:44] <farous> orbin i remember this diversion is in dapper
[07:44] <devnull> farous i would like to but before this kernel i just made i was using fglrx in xorg7 without a problem
[07:44] <ubuntu_rules> DarkMageZ, yea...  i gotta get music/files onto my ipod... i will uninstall itunes when sb drops... ty
[07:44] <Tallia1Kubuntu> what is the name of the program that make a sheep go around the screen?
[07:44] <sovieticool> is past that on terminal ?
[07:44] <intelikey> DBO do i need to set a callin program on one box and a callout on the other ?
[07:44] <crimsun> sovieticool: yes
[07:44] <sovieticool> done
[07:45] <ubuntu_rules> DarkMageZ, there should also be a way to, after installing itunes to ubuntu, connect the ipod to the psp as an external hd
[07:45] <DBO> intelikey, getty needs to be running on the remote box
[07:45] <sovieticool> work :)))
[07:45] <ubuntu_rules> or am i just wishing at this point?
[07:45] <DarkMageZ> ubuntu_rules, i hear banshee is a media player for handling ipods :) it's sorta like itunes, but not quite
[07:45] <farous> devnull: if i am not mistaken seveas is the maintainer. I think there is a problem with the script
[07:45] <sovieticool> oo but  the center speacker don't work :(
[07:46] <ubuntu_rules> coo
[07:46] <ubuntu_rules> l
[07:46] <ubuntu_rules> ty
[07:46] <sovieticool> and the subwoofer
[07:46] <devnull> if i knew how to fix it i would ... i just don't know much about deb packages
[07:46] <crimsun> sovieticool: adjust their volumes using the Volume Control
[07:46] <crimsun> sovieticool: you may need to add elements to adjust using Properties
[07:46] <farous> devnull: i am afraid any brot force might cause more harm. Give me a min to read it carefully
[07:46] <crimsun> or Preferences
[07:46] <sovieticool> o i try now
[07:47] <orbin> Tallia1Kubuntu: amor?
[07:48] <sovieticool> i enable center but stil not able to make it to play :(
[07:48] <ubuntu_rules> all looking for a way to run windoze apps on linux boxes: check out this file i just found...  instead of wine...  its called CrossOver Office
[07:48] <ZeZu> hehe
[07:48] <ZeZu> its not free either
[07:49] <ubuntu_rules> claims to run itunes and quicktime and dreamweaver
[07:49] <Putiikki> and itunes won't work even with it
[07:49] <crimsun> sovieticool: then you just need to adjust the volumes. I'm sorry, I need to return to work.
[07:49] <Tallia1Kubuntu> orbin :)
[07:49] <Mercutio150> anyone know if there is a way to listen to launchcast on Ubuntu?
[07:50] <zhLilDoggi> you could get WINE
[07:50] <zhLilDoggi> and use IE
[07:50] <sovieticool> crimsun thank's veru very much !!!
[07:50] <orbin> Tallia1Kubuntu: that it?
[07:50] <ubuntu_rules> wine didnt install itunes for me
[07:50] <farous> devnull: did you try the forums i am sure i seen it there. also did you install fglrx-kernel package?
[07:50] <Tallia1Kubuntu> yes
[07:50] <zhLilDoggi> hmm
[07:50] <DarkMageZ> zhLilDoggi, ie is a crime against humanity
[07:50] <sovieticool> please look here to see if do it correct
[07:50] <sovieticool> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11570
[07:50] <farous> where did you install the fglrx package from
[07:50] <zhLilDoggi> DarkMageZ - I guess your right
[07:50] <Mercutio150> I have, but would it run Y messenger?
[07:50] <zhLilDoggi> what about netscape?
[07:51] <zhLilDoggi> Mercutio150 - that I don't know
[07:51] <Mercutio150> hmm guess I'll just have to try
[07:51] <DarkMageZ> zhLilDoggi, eh, they tried to fight the crime, sure they might be evil, but they tried to help while they were alive
[07:52] <ubuntu_rules> im checking FrostWire now for CrossOver Office...  lol...  why pay for the cow when you can get the milk for free?
[07:52] <Mercutio150> I think I need a different media player to use it
[07:52] <SpiderMan> Hi there, can anybody help me with upgrading my Firefox in Breezy ?
[07:53] <ubuntu_rules> !firefox
[07:53] <orbin> am i doing something wrong w/ evolution's junk conrtols?  i marked an email from a sender as junk, and it moves it to the junk folder, but it doesn't automatically move them from inbox for the spamming sender the next time
[07:53] <ubuntu_rules> !firefox1.5
[07:53] <SpiderMan> !firefox
[07:53] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[07:53] <SpiderMan> thanks ubotu
[07:53] <farous> spiderman i found the easiest is download firefox to your home dir make a bin dir. than you can use it directly
[07:54] <ubuntu_rules> your welcome SpiderMan lol...  ubotu is a bot
[07:54] <holycow> is anyone able to download the flash plugin for linux .tar.gz from macromedias website? just curious, my downloads stop at 10% and have for the last week at least
[07:55] <ubuntu_rules> i found a CrossOver Office v5.0
[07:55] <ubuntu_rules> lets see if it will be replacing wine
[07:56] <ubuntu_rules> =)
[07:56] <ZeZu> how can i find out my memory load ?
[07:56] <holycow> free
[07:56] <holycow> what is a memory load anyway?
[07:56] <orbin> holycow: just using firefox's download?
[07:56] <zhLilDoggi> holycow - how much RAM you have used
[07:56] <holycow> orbin: i don't care anything
[07:56] <orbin> holycow: i.e. are you just using firefox to d/load it?
[07:56] <holycow> orbin: want to try dl it and let meknow if you succeed?
[07:57] <holycow> orbin: i've tried everything
[07:57] <orbin> holycow: so wget stops too?
[07:57] <holycow> well thats what the non free package uses to try and download it, it gets stuck too
[07:58] <orbin> holycow: well, i'm on dialup, so you might be waiting for a while, but giving everybody the direct url might help
[07:58] <devnull> sorry about that .... x crashed
[07:58] <holycow> orbin: in that case don't bother :)  you have better things to use your bandwidth for
[07:58] <holycow> thank you for trying :)
[07:58] <farous> devnull: no prob
[07:59] <orbin> holycow: lol, no worries :)
[07:59] <holycow> anyone with a dsl or greater line wants to try a quickdownload for the flash plugin from macromedia?
[07:59] <farous> devnull: just asked you where did you install the package from and did you install the fglrx-kernel package too
[07:59] <holycow> and tell me if they succeed?
[07:59] <linlin> How do you get an MCSE certified engineer off your porch?
[07:59] <holycow> you shoot him?
[07:59] <linlin> pay for your pizza
[07:59] <linlin> lawlhahshahaw
[08:00] <holycow> i don't get it
[08:00] <carthik> !offtopic
[08:00] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[08:00] <holycow> ? :)
[08:00] <linlin> the mcse cert delivers pizzas cause his certification is useless
[08:00] <linlin> durr'
[08:00] <holycow> doh!
[08:00] <devnull> farous because X didn't come up right after my new kernel install and i was an idiot i installed pretty much every package that had to do with fglrx
[08:01] <devnull> and also removed every package and that is where it got caught
[08:01] <farous> devnull: did you install the packages from ati or from seveas repos
[08:02] <devnull> hmm
[08:02] <sovieticool> how to login auto to #ubuntu channel ?\
[08:02] <farous> from ati most probably you did some compilation. from seveas you just apt-get it
[08:02] <holycow> sovieticool: depends on your tool, usually you double click on th enetwork and add the channel to the autojoin field.
[08:03] <devnull> i used apt ... but used ati earlier
[08:03] <shadow`> http://www.helpwinmybet.com/ =)
[08:03] <holycow> to anyone with dsl or greater speed: can you try downloading the flash plugin from macromedia and tell me if you succeed? my connection times out for some reason and i'm curious as to why
[08:03] <DarkMageZ> holycow, link me
[08:03] <holycow> sec
[08:03] <farous> devnull: do you have the ati driver install. aptitude search xorg-driver-ati
[08:03] <sovieticool> when i open the x-chat i want to open auto #ubuntu like something to put it to favorites
[08:04] <sovieticool> :)
[08:04] <holycow> http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/current/install_flash_player_7_linux.tar.gz
[08:04] <holycow> danke DarkMageZ
[08:04] <orbin> sovieticool: xchat>servelist>edit
[08:04] <SpiderMan> Does anybody know why resolv.conf doesnt work in ubuntu ?
[08:05] <devnull> p xserver-xorg-driver-ati
[08:05] <nworbnosaj> how do i install a package
[08:05] <bimberi> !install
[08:05] <ubotu> Installing Ubuntu? See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation Installing software on Ubuntu? See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingSoftware
[08:05] <farous> devnull: ok you need to install it
[08:05] <sovieticool> yesss orbin !!
[08:05] <sovieticool> tahak's
[08:05] <nicholaspaul> nworbnosaj, can you be more specific?
[08:05] <devnull> farous cant
[08:05] <farous> devnull: than you can change your driver in your xorg.conf to ati
[08:05] <holycow> DarkMageZ: so its my router then ... *hmmmm*
[08:05] <farous> devnull: why?
[08:05] <holycow> thank you kindly!
[08:05] <sovieticool> ups got to go to school :(
[08:05] <sovieticool> bye all
[08:06] <devnull> farous because of fglrx
[08:06] <intelikey> hah this is krazzie   it says i'm online  (it minicom)  and i transfer a file it counts off bites like it sends it, then on the other box nothing is there.  i even did  od /dev/ttyS1 and watched it.  there is no data comming ove so what am i connected to  ?????
[08:06] <devnull> xorg-driver-fglrx wont remove
[08:06] <holycow> SpiderMan: just for the record, it works here, and i have about 10 pilot projects at work too where it works fine?  not sure what i can do to help tho
[08:06] <farous> devnull: they can be both installed side by side. I have them here both
[08:06] <devnull> farous i cant
[08:06] <DarkMageZ> holycow, yeah, i'd say it's something on your side
[08:06] <nworbnosaj> i use vwmare through XP and it wants me to install it in the virtual machine which is ubuntu
[08:07] <farous> devnull: they are not execlusive. did you try installing it then apt complained
[08:08] <devnull> let me use dpkg to install
[08:08] <farous> devnull: apt-get
[08:08] <farous> or aptitude
[08:08] <Pavix> When you login trying to use root it says "System Administrator is not allowed to login from this screen"
[08:08] <Pavix> how can I change that
[08:08] <DarkMageZ> holycow, it even works on works internet connection. definantly your side :P
[08:08] <devnull> farous apt-get install won't let me do it
[08:08] <holycow> DarkMageZ: very interesting indeed
[08:09] <holycow> *hmmmmmm*
[08:09] <devnull> it wants to remove xorg-driver-fglrx but cant
[08:09] <mikebot> for ubuntu, is there a like picture viewer program where using the arrow keys you can scroll through all the pictures in a folder? (like the picture viewer that comes with win xp)
[08:09] <farous> devnull: can you paste the error on the pastebin
[08:09] <zaibiechu> i want to write a script,how to let a var+1
[08:09] <devnull> farous demo.jsecomputers.com/drew/LOG
[08:09] <zaibiechu> j=$j+1,do not give me what i want
[08:09] <farous> devnull: ok then reinstall xorg-driver-fglrx
[08:09] <bimberi> Pavix: System -> Administration -> Login Screen Setup,  I think it's the Security tab and there is a setting to allow root login (if you must :) )
[08:09] <devnull> farous i cant
[08:09] <farous> i think this will make apt-get stop complaining
[08:10] <nworbnosaj> !install
[08:10] <ubotu> Installing Ubuntu? See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation Installing software on Ubuntu? See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingSoftware
[08:10] <devnull> what is that
[08:10] <Sulle-> hi all.
[08:11] <CuriousMind> !root
[08:11] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[08:11] <Sulle-> !login
[08:11] <ubotu> Sulle-: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:11] <Sulle-> !loginscreen
[08:11] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Sulle-
[08:11] <rob_p> zaibiechu:  Bash I presume?  If so, try, "var=$(($var + 1))"
[08:11] <Sulle-> how do i change my loginscreen?
[08:11] <devnull> xorg-driver-fglrx is already at newest version ... REMOVE xorg-driver-fglrx
[08:11] <farous> devnull: ok try sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude -f reinstall xorg-driver-fglrx
[08:12] <jcmcbeth> How would I give write permission to for a folder in my home directory to a user called www-data (apache whatnot)?
[08:12] <devnull> is aptitude the thing to use now ?
[08:12] <Dashkal> Having a problem with Eclipse 3.1.1 (from the ubuntu package).  Is this a good place to ask?
[08:12] <farous> jcmcbeth: right click on it then go to permission
[08:13] <nicholaspaul> Sulle-, System >Preferences > Login Window
[08:13] <jcmcbeth> Would that give write permission to all users?
[08:13] <farous> devnull: aptitude is a front end like apt-get. I am just used to it
[08:13] <devnull> gotcha
[08:13] <devnull> well if my sources would work :)
[08:14] <Pavix> Worked, thanks
[08:14] <farous> jcmcbeth: you an use it to change the group ownership. Then add whatever user you want to the group that have access to the file
[08:14] <farous> jcmcbeth: just check it out. It is so easy to set
[08:14] <devnull> farous can you repaste that previous line to me
[08:14] <farous> devnull: ok try sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude -f reinstall xorg-driver-fglrx
[08:15] <jcmcbeth> farous: yeah, i'm going to do that, I just thought there'd be something more secure
[08:15] <devnull> hmmm it didt like that
[08:15] <farous> jcmcbeth: are you talking about an ftp server. vsftp is the one to look at then
[08:16] <holycow> DarkMageZ: awesome, i love linux, i can actually fix shit my self :) well with the help of charitable individuals
[08:16] <holycow> appreciate it
[08:16] <tonyyarusso> Okay, I've seen DSL (50M) and Puppy (50-70M).  What other distros are =< 128M?  (I'm thinking about installing one on a 128MB flash pen drive.)
[08:16] <farous> devnull: ok use the pastebin for the error
[08:17] <jcmcbeth> farous: no, i'm trying to be able to be able to upload and save a file with a php page, and my site is in my home folder
[08:18] <devnull> farous demo.jsecomputers.com/drew/LOG
[08:18] <farous> jcmcbeth: sorry have no experience with tht
[08:18] <farous> devnull: why don't you use the paste bin ?
[08:19] <devnull> no gpm at the moment
[08:19] <Keyrotate> anyone experience in backtrack( auditor security)?
[08:19] <farous> ok
[08:20] <devnull> no x either but i think that is because i changed the core pointer
[08:20] <farous> can you just change the ext to txt. so firefox won't complain
[08:20] <iceman> whats the alsa configuration command line
[08:20] <devnull> ya
[08:20] <mlowe> alsaconf
[08:20] <iceman> !alsa
[08:20] <ubotu> alsa is probably http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063, see also !dmix
[08:20] <devnull> doen
[08:20] <devnull> don
[08:20] <devnull> e
[08:20] <ZeZu> synaptic freezes up the whole machine real bad on this POS all the time, is that probably just a ram issue ?
[08:20] <devnull> hmm
[08:21] <iceman> iceman@icebox-1:~$ sudo alsaconf
[08:21] <iceman> sudo: alsaconf: command not found
[08:21] <iceman> iceman@icebox-1:~$
[08:21] <mlowe> ZeZu, ram, disk, bug never know
[08:21] <iceman> :(
[08:22] <ZeZu> hehe
[08:22] <farous> devnull: did you use suod for both commands says you were not root
[08:22] <devnull> i am root
[08:22] <Sulle-> how do i change the loginscreen?
[08:22] <devnull> sudo -s
[08:22] <tonyyarusso> What would an IP of 224.0.0.1 be?
[08:23] <farous> devnull: i think a file was removed and that is why the diversion did not work
[08:23] <iceman> dang alsaconf does not config sound right
[08:23] <farous> if you have the old log file we can just manually locate if the file exist or not
[08:23] <rob> umm.. e class?
[08:23] <devnull> farous old log file for what ?
[08:24] <devnull> my old LOG file ?
[08:24] <iceman> how to reconfigur sound ?
[08:24] <farous> the one where you tried to remove xorg-driver-fglrx
[08:24] <devnull> oh
[08:24] <farous> no problem just try to run the command again
[08:24] <devnull> neither file exists
[08:24] <interferon> if i remove a package with dpkg -r, how can I get it back?
[08:24] <Jambon> does one compile the mozilla firefox or just run it from the folder?
[08:25] <farous> Jambon: if you downloaded it from firefox site you just run it from the folder
[08:25] <holycow> Jambon: you mean tghe one you downloaded from mozilla.com? just run it
[08:25] <holycow> Jambon: you can download source and compile if you like
[08:25] <devnull> farous the files that are mentioned in that log don't exist
[08:25] <Jambon> would it make it any faster?
[08:25] <iceman> what is the alsa configuration command line .. to adjust sound settings ?
[08:26] <farous> devnull: there it is we just need to locate which package they belong to and reinstall that package
[08:26] <bimberi> iceman: alsamixer ?
[08:26] <devnull> okay
[08:26] <farous> you can manually download them then use dpkg if aptitude or apt-get complain
[08:26] <holycow> Jambon: only if you know what you are doing, you can compile ffox for amd for example and optimize it to be faster if you like
[08:27] <pataphysician> i tried following a howto from the forum for setting up wine to run warcraft ( http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=120615 ). after running through the installation, i tried to run wine and got an error:  "err:module:load_builtin_dll failed to load .so lib for builtin L"winex11.drv": libSM.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory." i also couldn't get any graphical applications to launch, nautilus wouldn't open,
[08:27] <pataphysician> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 11 2006-04-05 16:33 libXau.so -> libXau.so.6
[08:27] <pataphysician> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 2005-10-02 20:11 libXau.so.6 -> libXau.so.6.0
[08:27] <pataphysician> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 7.7k 2005-08-31 00:42 libXau.so.6.0
[08:27] <Jambon> but a straight compile isn't going to make that much of a difference?
[08:27] <Jambon> i can't find the configure file
[08:27] <devnull>  /usr/lib32/libGL.so.1.2
[08:27] <farous> now devnull i am afraid i do not have dapper so do not know how i can help
[08:27] <holycow> Jambon: well no, people who compiled it for you are experts, you'd think they would of done a good job, no?
[08:27] <Jambon> so the version from the site is pre compiled?
[08:27] <holycow> Jambon: how slow do you think it really is? once it's loaded, whats the problem? its as fast as ie or whatever
[08:27] <Jambon> all just in a folder?
[08:28] <devnull> farous any suggestions
[08:28] <holycow> Jambon: of course
[08:28] <Jambon> ah
[08:28] <devnull> since i can't really do much until that thing goes away
[08:28] <farous> !find libGl.so
[08:28] <holycow> Jambon: your not download souce, your downloading a precompiled binary.
[08:28] <devnull> !find libGL.so
[08:28] <farous> ubotu is not working?
[08:28] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, farous
[08:28] <Jambon> it's just the dapper version (yes i know wrong channel, they're asleep) is dead slow, and opera is annoying me
[08:28] <devnull> just slow at the moment
[08:29] <holycow> Jambon: its fast here
[08:29] <farous> devnull: libgl1-mesa
[08:29] <Jambon> i have a slow computer
[08:29] <Jambon> it drags, a ton
[08:29] <interferon> Jambon, get a fast computer
[08:29] <holycow> i'm on a 1 ghz cpu
[08:29] <devnull> libgl1-mesa-dri libgl1-mesa
[08:29] <holycow> its fine here?
[08:29] <devnull> which i would love to install but not with apt i can't
[08:29] <Sulle-> how can i change my logon screen?. plz pm me the answer.
[08:29] <Jambon> 664mhz celeron
[08:29] <Sulle-> :)
[08:29] <devnull> i actually tried those packages again
[08:29] <interferon> Sulle-, sudo gdmsetup
[08:29] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'libGl.so' returned no results.
[08:29] <bimberi> Sulle-: System -> Administration -> Login Screen Setup
[08:29] <farous> devnull: you will most probably find them in /var/apt/cache
[08:30] <holycow> Jambon: that should be fine, do you have enough ram?
[08:30] <holycow> its ram thats the most important part at this point of time
[08:30] <Jambon> 319
[08:30] <holycow> that should be fine too
[08:30] <holycow> weird
[08:30] <farous> sorry /var/chache/apt
[08:30] <farous> if you did not clear the cache
[08:31] <Jambon> I'm just wondering about changing the command so running the firefox command bring up the folder and not the preinstalled version
[08:31] <devnull> farous no i didn't clear the cache
[08:31] <farous> so search for it in /var/cache/apt they are stored there
[08:31] <holycow> Jambon: open up alacarte, point to link, edit, for the command hit browse and select the bianry in the folder on your desktop
[08:32] <farous> Jambon: you need to change the symbolic link under /usr/bin
[08:32] <Jambon> farous ya that
[08:32] <farous> also there is another link mozilla-firefox so both links firefox and mozilla-firefox
[08:33] <Jambon> is the command the same as it is in breezy? ( sudo dpkg-divert --divert /usr/bin/firefox.ubuntu --rename /usr/bin/firefox)
[08:33] <farous> Jambon: i used to do it without the divert command by creating a new symbolic link
[08:34] <Jambon>  sudo ln -s /opt/firefox/firefox /usr/bin/mozilla-firefox
[08:34] <farous> Jambon: actually i have a script for i have diff users some run the new firefox some the old
[08:35] <farous> Jambon: that is about it another one also for /usr/bin/firefox
[08:38] <pataphysician> anyone have any ideas regarding my X issue?
[08:39] <Jambon> farous: so i ran  sudo ln -s /opt/firefox/firefox /usr/bin//firefox
[08:39] <Jambon> would that do it?
[08:40] <farous> Jambon: take a look at that also for java, flash and other plugins. Look at  the post by ilbahr http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=712284#post712284
[08:41] <bimberi> pataphysician: is the libsm6 package installed?
[08:41] <bimberi> pataphysician: (it includes /usr/lib/libSM.so.6)
[08:42] <pataphysician> appears to be. i just tried apt-get install libsm6 and it says it's the newest version. that's the weird thing (i think), i have the file it says it can't find.
[08:43] <bimberi> pataphysician: yes, just verify it is there - 'ls -l /usr/lib/libSM*'
[08:44] <matthew_w> Could I get any explanation for sudden, immense system slowdown, how to detect/solve it?
[08:44] <matthew_w> For example, glxgears, which normally returns 4000+ fps, now returns just over 10.
[08:45] <Steil> matthew_w: there are a variety of things that could cause it, what programs are you running?
[08:45] <DBO> matthew_w, can you go into the system monitor to see what your CPU utilization is at?
[08:45] <pataphysician> when i do that i get, "no such file or directory." i have it in /usr/X11R6/lib though. is that the problem?
[08:45] <Jambon> farous: huh? can i just reinstall all the plugins?
[08:45] <matthew_w> Xchat, aMSN, xterm
[08:45] <bimberi> matthew_w: or 'top' (in a terminal)
[08:45] <matthew_w> I can run a "top"
[08:45] <Steil> matthew_w: in xterm type top
[08:45] <farous> Jambon: firefox will not know where to look for them
[08:45] <DBO> top will do
[08:45] <DarkMageZ> bsdfox, lol, didn't know glxgears was a command line tool :P
[08:45] <matthew_w> 98.3 us X_X
[08:45] <Jambon> ouch
[08:46] <farous> you have to put them in your .mozilla/plugin dir
[08:46] <DBO> matthew_w, whats eating it?
[08:46] <matthew_w> OWCH!
[08:46] <farous> or make a symb link to them
[08:46] <matthew_w> Something called "wine-preloader"
[08:46] <matthew_w> I must have had a wine app crash
[08:46] <DarkMageZ> bsdfox, 233fps...
[08:46] <DBO> matthew_w, kill it
[08:46] <matthew_w> And it left that, residual.
[08:46] <bimberi> pataphysician: could be.  try a 'sudo apt-get install -reinstall libsm6'
[08:46] <matthew_w> Wow
[08:47] <matthew_w> CPU temp instantly drops a degree.
[08:47] <DBO> matthew_w, yeah, CPU's heat up and cool down fast, the diode probably moved more than a degree on that
[08:47] <matthew_w> 2277 FPS on glxgears now.
[08:47] <matthew_w> Still a bit slow, but I haven't optimized my xorg settings in a long time, nor do I really know how to.
[08:47] <matthew_w> haha.
[08:48] <pataphysician> bimberi, it's working! man i've been messing with this for hours. thanks so much!
[08:48] <bimberi> pataphysician: great! np :-)
[08:49] <matthew_w> My normal running temp is around 38 degrees.  The computer was approaching 50, I couldn't figure out why.
[08:49] <Jambon> farous: so if i just copy the the plugins will i have to keep copying them every time i install a new one?
[08:49] <misieq> hello! anyone here uses rhino? i have copied some javascript from a website but it want's to write to document, however 'document' is unspecified. how do i redirect output to stdout?
[08:49] <farous> matthew_w: i envy you normal temp here is 44
[08:49] <DBO> farous, 31 here...  yay 120mm heatsink
[08:50] <farous> Jambon: not if you just make a symbolik run to them
[08:50] <Jambon> oh
[08:50] <farous> DBO: i guess that is the norm with notebooks
[08:50] <Jambon> i don't know how to make those
[08:50] <cha2> alo
[08:50] <farous> ln -s
[08:50] <Jambon> i just copied the last one from a tutorial
[08:50] <cha2> ali
[08:50] <cha2> alo
[08:50] <tonyyarusso> My lappy's running at 47dC :(
[08:51] <dartmolx> hello everyone
[08:51] <DBO> farous, actually, my CPU is the coolest running chip in my box.  Chipset, PWMCA, GPU, hard drives, all run hotter
[08:51] <cha2> whaddap
[08:51] <cha2> alo2
[08:51] <RabidDog_> I am having problems connecting to my dgl4300 dlink router, anyhow I get the message "No DHCPOFFERS recieved" & "No working leases in the persistant database", this is a onboard ethernet port, and it also gives the same error witht he pci card ethernet port dlink 538,this is what my interface file looks like, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11572
[08:51] <liable> tonyyarusso: think of the positives. it can double as a pie warmer :)
[08:51] <tonyyarusso> Can I find out temperatures for anything other than the "Thermal 1" reported by acpi -V?
[08:51] <tonyyarusso> liable: Haha.
[08:52] <Jambon> farous: so which one comes fist?
[08:52] <DBO> RabidDog_, set up static IP
[08:52] <farous> DBO: :)
[08:52] <RabidDog_> tried
[08:52] <tonyyarusso> Or could I install something to cool it off more?
[08:52] <RabidDog_> same issure
[08:52] <RabidDog_> same issue
[08:52] <farous> Jambon: man ln
[08:52] <Madpilot> tonyyarusso, depends on what your motherboard sensors report - lmsensors can read most things
[08:52] <farous> type it in a terminal
[08:52] <liable> RabidDog_: same issue? what do you mean, a static ip doesnt look for dhcp leases.
[08:52] <farous> Jambon: normally man <target> <linkname>
[08:53] <farous> Jambon: normally ln -s  <target> <linkname>
[08:53] <tonyyarusso> Madpilot: How do I get/run that?
[08:53] <matthew_w> Also, a side note
[08:53] <DBO> liable, did you ever fix annies issue?
[08:53] <matthew_w> Any way to get windows media players to run in firefox 5.0
[08:53] <matthew_w> I have wmcodecs
[08:53] <RabidDog_> liable, I tried setting i up in the netwrok config tool of ubuntu gui
[08:53] <Madpilot> !tell tonyyarusso about sensors
[08:53] <liable> DBO: she ended up hooking it to the router in the end.
[08:53] <DBO> liable, so we still have no idea what was wrong?
[08:53] <RabidDog_> I went back to the original config to solicit help
[08:53] <liable> DBO: nope.
[08:54] <DBO> liable, nuts, I was hoping for some crushing revelation of amazing dumbness on our parts...
[08:54] <SpiderMan> Does anybody know why resolv.conf doesnt work in ubuntu ?
[08:54] <liable> DBO: heh, yeah, had me stumped.
[08:54] <SpiderMan> !resolv.conf
[08:54] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, SpiderMan
[08:54] <tonyyarusso> Madpilot: "Warning: IBM Thinkpad users should not install LM Sensors."  :(
[08:54] <Jambon> farous:  sudo ln -s .mozilla/plugins /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins look right?
[08:54] <ogami1972> Hello Everybody!
[08:54] <DBO> SpiderMan, what do you mean it doesnt work?
[08:55] <Madpilot> tonyyarusso, you run a Thunkpad, huh? Sounds like you're out of luck, then
[08:55] <tonyyarusso> Madpilot: Yep.  T43.  Dang.
[08:55] <liable> RabidDog_: can you try setting a static ip again and tell us what errors you get?
[08:55] <tonyyarusso> Madpilot: It's great for most things; apparently not this.
[08:55] <RabidDog_> k omp
[08:55] <farous> Jambon: the other way round ln -s /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins .mozilla/plugins
[08:55] <ogami1972> i have an answer and a question- i just finished installing flight 6
[08:56] <Jambon> oh
[08:56] <Jambon> can I undo that or will it matter?
[08:56] <ogami1972> and ran into resolution problems
[08:56] <farous> tonyyarusso: did you check thinkwiki
[08:56] <RabidDog_> liable just to confirm when it asks for gateway, the usual default gateway for most routers is 192.168.0.1 , right?
[08:56] <farous> there was an explanation there but i was not curious
[08:56] <tonyyarusso> farous: I'm pulling that up now actually.
[08:56] <DBO> RabidDog_, that or 192.168.1.1
[08:57] <DBO> (all linksys routers use 1.1
[08:57] <farous> we have about 8 tem sensors
[08:57] <RabidDog_> yeah it's dlink I have which is 0.1
[08:57] <volcom_b0i> does anyone know what file gnome-session-properties edits?
[08:57] <ogami1972> the forums show quite a few people running into this, and talking about "i edited xorg.conf to say etc etc"
[08:57] <liable> RabidDog_: yep, just check to make sure that its correct for yours though
[08:58] <DBO> ogami1972, flight 6 talk at #ubuntu+1
[08:58] <RabidDog_> yeah my router access is 192.168.0.1
[08:58] <ogami1972> oh- sorry
[08:58] <ogami1972> :)
[08:58] <DBO> ogami1972, no biggie, just letting you know
[08:58] <Jambon> farous: i did the link the other way around. do i undo it or just run it the other way around?
[08:58] <volcom_b0i> does anyone know what file gnome-session-properties edits?
[08:59] <farous> Jambon: if you did not use sudo just use the command i sent you. if you used sudo than you just removed the plugins and need to reinstall them
[08:59] <Jambon> ouch
[08:59] <Jambon> i used sudo
[09:00] <RabidDog_> liable http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11573
[09:00] <farous> Jambon: for your home dir yo9u do not need sudo
[09:00] <farous> jambon did hte command go for normally you need an -f option if the destination file exist
[09:00] <liable> RabidDog_: whats output from ifconfig -a?
[09:01] <liable> RabidDog_: how did you paste that?
[09:01] <farous> go to the dir and type ls in it to see what happened
[09:01] <RabidDog_> liable i'm enable and disabling eth1 which is connected directly to my 2nd modem
[09:01] <RabidDog_> eth0 is connected to my router
[09:02] <todd> question for anyone that wants to help me
[09:02] <DBO> hit me todd
[09:02] <Jambon> farous: i see the flashplayer plugins
[09:02] <liable> RabidDog_: oh, ok in that case, paste your interfaces file too.
[09:02] <Jambon> no others though
[09:02] <RabidDog_> liable u mean this one http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11572?
[09:02] <RabidDog_> liable u mean this one http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11572
[09:03] <todd> i just installed ubuntu on my friends dell imspiron laptop that has 128 mb of ram and a 1 gzh p4 processor will xfce make it run faster til he gets more ram?
[09:03] <farous> jambon depend what plugins you had installed to start with
[09:03] <liable> RabidDog_: you have 4 cards?
[09:03] <Jambon> well the usr/lin folder has a lot more
[09:03] <RabidDog_> uh yeah
[09:03] <DBO> todd, only a little, you should be able to get by with 128 RAM if you shut down some unneeded programs and services
[09:04] <liable> RabidDog_: no, i want to see it after you have set a static ip.
[09:04] <RabidDog_> I plan on a 3rd modem
[09:04] <RabidDog_> k
[09:04] <todd> how do i go about getting xfce on his computer so i can install it i searched packet manager for it and nothing came up
[09:04] <farous> usr/lin ? try ls -l in the folder and it will tell you if it is a symbolic link or not
[09:05] <todd> and what services and stuff do i need to close to make it run faster b/c right now its that kind of annoying kind of slow u know
[09:05] <RabidDog_> liable http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11574
[09:05] <DBO> todd, "sudo apt-get install sysv-rc-conf"
[09:05] <Jambon> farous: sorry, usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[09:06] <farous> todd: xfce4 is there
[09:06] <devnull> farous, now that i have that straightened out ... how do i go about get fglrx with gl ?
[09:06] <DBO> todd, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=89491
[09:06] <DBO> go through that wiki
[09:06] <DBO> erm, thread
[09:06] <farous> atodd and xubuntu-desktop is your best bet though
[09:06] <todd> and that will install it for me so when i login it will let me choose between gmome and xfce
[09:06] <liable> RabidDog_: and ifup eth0 still says file exists?
[09:06] <farous> devnull: so everything works fine now good
[09:06] <eggzeck> todd, and here's a tip: in terminal type: apt-cache search xfce
[09:06] <todd> how do i install xubuntu desktop
[09:07] <DBO> todd, no, thats to help speed up the boot
[09:07] <RabidDog_> omp dbl checking
[09:07] <RabidDog_> yep same msg
[09:07] <farous> !tell devnull about ati
[09:07] <liable> RabidDog_: try ifconfig eth0 down then ifup
[09:07] <todd> what do u mean by speed up the boot
[09:07] <liable> RabidDog_: or turn it off in the gui thing
[09:07] <farous> devnull: that is the way i did it i installed from the binary supplied by ati following the first howto
[09:07] <devnull> farous okay ... maybe i will have better luck with fglrx in ubuntu
[09:07] <DBO> todd, less stuff to load... lemme see if I can find how to get xfce for you
[09:08] <todd> thanks man
[09:08] <farous> devnull: working more than fine here
[09:08] <RabidDog_> hostname lookup failure
[09:08] <SpiderMan> DBO, it does not put the suffix in, from the search
[09:08] <OrTigaS> which one i'm gonna chage there?
[09:08] <RabidDog_> did sudo ifconfig eth0 down ifup
[09:08] <RabidDog_> err
[09:08] <OrTigaS> # User privilege specification
[09:08] <OrTigaS> root    ALL=(ALL) ALL
[09:08] <OrTigaS> # Members of the admin group may gain root privileges
[09:08] <OrTigaS> %admin  ALL=(ALL) ALL
[09:08] <dido> alo
[09:08] <todd> so which will be faster for him xubuntu or xfce hes just web surfing with it
[09:09] <dido> alo
[09:09] <dido> alo
[09:09] <farous> xubuntu is ubuntu + xfce todd
[09:09] <farous> same as ubuntu is ubuntu + gnome
[09:09] <DBO> farous, I dont see a metapackage for it...
[09:09] <tonyyarusso> Can I make a file in /proc?  The ThinkWiki mentions an echo blah > /proc/acpi/ibm/ecdump, but that file doesn't exist for me and I don't know why.
[09:09] <Jambon> farous: ya there is a link (plugins -> .mozilla/plugins)
[09:09] <farous> xubuntu-desktop
[09:10] <todd> lol sorry i didnt put 2 and 2 together on that
[09:10] <liable> RabidDog_: what did you type?
[09:10] <RabidDog_> did sudo ifconfig eth0 down
[09:10] <OrTigaS> which one i'm gonna chage there?
[09:10] <RabidDog_> did sudo ifconfig eth0 up
[09:10] <farous> Jambon: than no harm is done it did not remove anything
[09:10] <unixguru> i can't seem to be able to play real files on totem
[09:10] <RabidDog_> tried deactivating and reactivating in gui too
[09:10] <DBO> farous, doh, they didnt include xfce in its description, didnt show in my search
[09:10] <PwcrLinux> Hello
[09:10] <RabidDog_> just now
[09:10] <liable> RabidDog_: ifconfig eth0 down, then ifup eth0
[09:10] <dido> alo
[09:10] <RabidDog_> kent, op
[09:10] <Jambon> farous: so just do it the other way around then?
[09:10] <dido> alo
[09:10] <DBO> todd, "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop"
[09:10] <dido> alo
[09:11] <RabidDog_> k omp
[09:11] <farous> Jambon: yes
[09:11] <liable> RabidDog_: does this router actually work? tried a different cable?
[09:11] <OrTigaS> hi
[09:11] <todd> that is the xfce terminal command
[09:11] <SpiderMan> DBO, it does not put the suffix in, from the search address, gives me the error "Name or service not known"
[09:11] <unixguru> mplayer and realplayer can play real files fine
[09:11] <farous> DBO: that is strange you can look it up though on ubuntu main site it is a sister like kubuntu
[09:11] <RabidDog_> laible was working until I ugraded the server
[09:11] <Jambon> farous: no sudo though
[09:11] <todd> will i have to load or set up and other reps.
[09:11] <PwcrLinux> Hello, I need to get large mouse pointers (cursor).
[09:11] <farous> Jambon: you do not need it if you are making the link in your home dir
[09:11] <RabidDog_> and the router works cause I'm on this other box that I'm chatting to you with
[09:12] <liable> RabidDog_: the box in wuestion?
[09:12] <RabidDog_> that is conencted to it
[09:12] <DBO> farous, yeah, I know, I think they should add xfce to its description if only for us that search synaptics for stuff
[09:12] <farous> DBO: you are absoultely right
[09:12] <RabidDog_> liable, yes the box in qustion I upgrade
[09:12] <DBO> SpiderMan, ok, Im not sure on this one... boy I should know that...
[09:13] <liable> RabidDog_: to what? a kernel upgrade, the next releas, or just an apt-get upgrade?
[09:13] <OrTigaS> which one i'm gonna edit to sudoes so other user can use "sudo -s"
[09:13] <RabidDog_> liable a complete hardware upgrade
[09:13] <RabidDog_> new cpu and mobo and ram
[09:14] <RabidDog_> then I updated kernel and gfx drivers
[09:14] <Jambon> farous: it seems the link is self referential. it points to inself
[09:14] <RabidDog_> when I ping router from that box I get destination host unreachable btw
[09:14] <Jambon> farous: all the plugins are there though
[09:14] <liable> RabidDog_: paste the output from ifconfig -a
[09:15] <RabidDog_> k omp
[09:15] <PwcrLinux> Hello, I need to get large mouse pointers (cursor).
[09:15] <farous> OrTigaS: normally i do it using the gnome frontend. just give them admin rights
[09:15] <farous> OrTigaS: or man sudoers
[09:15] <farous> Jambon: try them
[09:16] <athlon> how to force apt-get to install a package even though it will overwrite files from another packages ?
[09:16] <OrTigaS> i already on the terminal and open the /etc/sudoers
[09:16] <stocksy> anybody know how to make postfix do parallel delivery?
[09:16] <sfar> PwcrLinux: www.gnome-look.org and http://art.gnome.org
[09:16] <stocksy> as in more than one smtp connection to a single box at one time
[09:17] <PwcrLinux> sfar: okay
[09:17] <OrTigaS> just tell me which is gonna edit
[09:17] <todd> ok heres what happend when i just tried to install xfce with the command you gave me .....the audo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop    came back with file not found.......the audo apt-get install sysv-rc-conf     came back with file has no install canidate
[09:17] <dido> alo
[09:17] <Madpilot> PwcrLinux, http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Desktop_EyeCandy#HOWTO:_INSTALL_CURSOR_THEMES_ON_UBUNTU.2FGNOME
[09:17] <liable> dido: yes, we can see you.
[09:17] <RabidDog_> liable http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11576
[09:18] <farous> todd: it is in universe make sure universe is enabled in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:18] <dido> nfaklk
[09:18] <DBO> !tell tod about repos
[09:18] <liable> RabidDog_: ok, sorry to be a pita, but i want to see the route output when eth0 is up
[09:18] <RabidDog_> route ouput?
[09:19] <todd> how to enable those repos
[09:19] <liable> RabidDog_: sudo route
[09:19] <DBO> liable, you keep getting the impossible network issues...  Im coming to think you are cursed
[09:19] <DBO> todd, look at the link ubotu sent you
[09:19] <hukkka> todd: it is "sudo apt-get.." not "audo .."
[09:19] <liable> DBO: hehe, seems that way :)
[09:19] <todd> i know typo sorry
[09:20] <todd> how do i enable them from the terminal
[09:20] <farous> todd just uncomment the repos in the /etc/apt/sources.list. also either follow ubotu link or try easysource
[09:20] <todd> b/c i dont wanna log into gnome thats a 25 in process lol
[09:20] <OrTigaS> how can i see other PC on a network?
[09:20] <dido> alo
[09:20] <DBO> todd, you will have to edit your sources.list in vi or nano (I prefer vi, but people yell at me for suggesting it)
[09:20] <RabidDog_> liable http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11577
[09:21] <todd> what vi ur ahead of me
[09:21] <farous> Hobbsee: lol :)
[09:21] <Hobbsee> todd: use gedit - it's far simpler.
[09:21] <Hobbsee> hehe
[09:21] <todd> ok what do i type into the command line to make them enabled
[09:22] <DBO> Hobbsee, he requirested from command line
[09:22] <farous> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:22] <Hobbsee> ah ok, i didnt see that :P
[09:22] <DBO> todd, "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list"
[09:22] <DBO> ...erm, farous beat me to it
[09:22] <farous> than go to the line with the comment <#> sign and remove it
[09:22] <RabidDog_> liable, did ya get that?
[09:23] <farous> you've beaten me to ubotu before ;)
[09:23] <farous> anyway got to have some sleep
[09:23] <DBO> farous, its that time of day were the techs pounce on the people asking questions, not the other way around
[09:23] <farous> take care all as usual it has been fun here
[09:23] <farous> lol
[09:23] <MenZa> At home, I installed KDE - followed by deinstalling it shortly after. My problem is, that a lot of my graphics in GNOME have been replacaed by it - and so has the default file manager
[09:24] <todd> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list ok i typed that into the command line now what
[09:24] <OrTigaS> how to edit permission
[09:24] <MenZa> replaced by KDE graphics*
[09:24] <DBO> todd, if you want, I can walk you through it in vi
[09:24] <liable> RabidDog_: ok, that looks fine.
[09:24] <RabidDog_> k
[09:24] <farous> todd just use the arrows to move through the file
[09:24] <todd> anything at this point would be a great help
[09:24] <RabidDog_> liable this has perplexed me for the last 2 hours
[09:25] <Volny> if I use ubuntu in graphic mode, does it take much less reasources than win2k?`
[09:25] <todd> move through the file ot what
[09:25] <RabidDog_> Volny, depends what dsiplay manager and esktop u sue
[09:25] <DBO> todd, just navigate with the arrows, and delete the # infront of the lines for the multiverse and universe
[09:25] <todd> im command line illitterate
[09:25] <dido> alo
[09:25] <RabidDog_> Volny, depends what display manager and desktop u use
[09:25] <farous> to a line where it says ..... breezy universe
[09:25] <todd> k hold up
[09:25] <liable> RabidDog_: its starting to do the same to me :) your router doesnt have subnet address limited? ie only .1-.15??
[09:26] <OrTigaS> i already on the terminal and open the /etc/sudoers.. which one i'm gonna edit to work the user "sudo -s"?
[09:26] <farous> ok will leave him in your expert hand dbo got to sleep man take care all :)
[09:26] <RabidDog_> um yes subnet address from .200 to .210
[09:26] <todd> theres nothing in the file
[09:26] <DBO> farous, later
[09:26] <DBO> todd, you must have typo'd the path
[09:26] <DBO> /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:27] <todd> can u repost it for me
[09:27] <liable> RabidDog_: try 201
[09:27] <RabidDog_> k
[09:27] <RabidDog_> why is networking in linux so complicated
[09:27] <DBO> todd, would it help if I walked you through this keystroke for keystroke?
[09:28] <liable> normally it isnt.
[09:28] <Volny> RabidDog_ okey, so if I use some it takes much more power form the computer than win2k?
[09:28] <MenZa> RabidDog_: In my ecperience, it isn't.
[09:28] <MenZa> experience*
[09:28] <RabidDog_> heh
[09:28] <todd> yes
[09:28] <RabidDog_> volny I never said that
[09:28] <DBO> todd, do you have the GUI running or just terminal?
[09:28] <todd> i did make a typo and theres a whole bunch of number signs
[09:28] <RabidDog_> Volny, depends what display manager and desktop u use
[09:28] <DBO> todd, good
[09:28] <todd> just terminal i booted to it
[09:28] <OrTigaS> anyone can help to my question
[09:28] <dido> alo
[09:28] <Volny> RabidDog_ thats why I said it as a question ;)
[09:28] <OrTigaS> i'm new to linux
[09:28] <DBO> todd, hit ctrl+X to exit
[09:28] <RabidDog_> unless u meant some of them
[09:28] <todd> k
[09:29] <DBO> todd, now enter "sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list"
[09:29] <todd> it took me back to the terminal screen
[09:29] <RabidDog_> gnome and kde are the most intensive on resources, whoever I'm not sure hwo they compare to win2k
[09:29] <todd> one sec
[09:29] <RabidDog_> however*
[09:29] <Volny> RabidDog_ I meant that if I use like the best graphics it takes more cpu and memory than win2k? u understand? :)
[09:29] <Volny> RabidDog_ is gnome and kde integrated with ubuntu?
[09:29] <RabidDog_> Volny, that depends on your gfx card
[09:30] <todd> k got the vi thing
[09:30] <DBO> todd, ok, 20 or so lines down you will see two entries that are below a large block of text with "##" infront of each line
[09:30] <Volny> ok, the computer has a bad gfx card, old like 2-4mb :S
[09:30] <DBO> do you see it?
[09:31] <todd> its not letting me move down
[09:31] <DBO> todd, the last word in those two entries will be "universe"
[09:31] <MenZa> At home, I installed KDE - followed by deinstalling it shortly after. My problem is, that a lot of my graphics in GNOME have been replacaed by KDE ones - and so has the default file manager (changed to the KDE one)... any ideas how I fix this? Beside formatting, of course.
[09:31] <DBO> todd, press the down arrow
[09:31] <todd> wait i typoed it
[09:31] <mizerydearia> I'm trying to "make menuconfig" for kernel config from freshly installed ubuntu but am having some minor (i think) errors that I mostly resolved, however, just before menu appears, lots of .config:####:warning: trying to assign nonexistant symbol * -- How can I resolve these messages?
[09:31] <todd> how do i exit and retype
[09:31] <DBO> todd, tab complete is your friend
[09:31] <mlask> hi there, my question is: is it possible to eneble bootsplash on 2.6.16 kernel? i haven't found any patches on bootsplash.de for this realse, but there are some... in google... but they seem to be very unoficial. Where should i look for them?
[09:31] <liable> mlask: fire up aptitude and remove everything in the kde section
[09:31] <DBO> todd, to escape press escape then type :q! then enter
[09:32] <liable> MenZa: ^^
[09:32] <maruchan> stupid quick question for some one relative new, is there a way to install windows, if you only have ubuntu installed
[09:32] <Volny> is gnome and kde integrated with ubuntu?
[09:32] <mlask> :/
[09:32] <liable> mlask: sorry wrong nick
[09:32] <MenZa> liable: ? :o
[09:32] <maruchan> when i mean way i mean easy
[09:32] <todd> nothin
[09:32] <MenZa> liable: ah. Will that fix it?
[09:32] <DBO> hit escape, the :q then enter
[09:32] <Volny> ompaul is gnome and kde integrated with ubuntu?
[09:32] <DBO> colon, not semicolon
[09:32] <todd> got it
[09:32] <MenZa> (The only thing I want to keep is Kopete <3)
[09:33] <liable> MenZa: if theres no kde left, it has to. :)
[09:33] <RabidDog_> liable no luck
[09:33] <OrTigaS> is my question somethings wrong
[09:33] <DBO> todd, good, ok, now get the right path in there
[09:33] <MenZa> liable: good point. I'll do that when I get home; thanks mate.
[09:33] <OrTigaS> nobody answer
[09:33] <rob_p> OrTigaS:  What are you trying to do?
[09:33] <DBO> OrTigaS, what question?
[09:33] <OrTigaS> i already on the terminal and open the /etc/sudoers.. which one i'm gonna edit to work the user "sudo -s"?
[09:34] <todd> it took me back to the same thing
[09:34] <liable> RabidDog_: whats the ifup error?
[09:34] <RabidDog_> none
[09:34] <todd> i cant type anything
[09:34] <DBO> todd, I know you cant
[09:34] <DBO> do you see the file?
[09:34] <liable> RabidDog_: so it shows up running in ifconfig?
[09:34] <todd> o ok
[09:34] <DBO> todd, dont hit any extra keys, I dont want you to mess this thing up
[09:34] <rob_p> OrTigaS:  You should already be able to do sudo -s.  I don't understand what you are trying to accomplish.
[09:34] <todd> at the bottom it says ".etc/apt/sources.list right
[09:35] <RabidDog_> well yes shows in ifconfig
[09:35] <RabidDog_> lemme try something one moment
[09:35] <liable> RabidDog_: as UP RUNNING?
[09:35] <DBO> todd, good, now press the down arrow to you see two lines in a row that end in universe
[09:35] <OrTigaS> when i trying to login as added user when i trying to "sudo -s" and type the pwd it say "sorry, pls try again"
[09:35] <Madpilot> OrTigaS, what are you trying to do, exactly?
[09:35] <todd> nothing is moving
[09:35] <todd> it says new file
[09:36] <DBO> uhg... you must have deleted it somewhere...
[09:36] <indypende> hi all!
[09:36] <DBO> todd, nevermind
[09:36] <rob_p> OrTigaS:  Oh, so you want another user to be able to use sudo -s?  Do you want that user to be able to run all commands with sudo or just sudo -s?
[09:36] <DBO> todd, you typoed again
[09:36] <todd> o did i
[09:36] <RabidDog_> liable no, one sec changing around network cable in back, doing a switcheroo
[09:36] <todd> how do i exit again
[09:36] <PwcrLinux> Madpilot: Hmmm im confused, I am in the cursor selection program, and I go to website to download onto my flashdrive and I run the program, and it's says cannot open the file is arc'ives.
[09:36] <OrTigaS> i just added i user and wanted it to sudo -s
[09:37] <DBO> escape then :q then enter
[09:37] <todd> k
[09:37] <RabidDog_> liable, holy crap
[09:37] <todd> what do i need to type in to get to the right thing
[09:37] <RabidDog_> now the modem on't connect
[09:37] <RabidDog_> but the router does
[09:37] <liable> RabidDog_: bad card or cable.
[09:37] <DBO> todd type "sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list"
[09:37] <RabidDog_> moving modem cable off onboard port
[09:38] <RabidDog_> chnaging to eth2
[09:38] <todd> k theres a bunch of ## signs now
[09:38] <DBO> todd, is there text after them (yes or no)
[09:38] <liable> RabidDog_: make sure card is seated :)
[09:38] <RabidDog_> yeah
[09:38] <OrTigaS> because when login as root and open some file... then login to user and logout again.... login to root theres an error re:ICEauthorit
[09:38] <todd> yes
[09:38] <liable> RabidDog_: anyway, at least you got a lead now.
[09:38] <todd> i see some stuff with universe
[09:38] <OrTigaS> i dont wanna happen that again
[09:38] <DBO> todd, scroll down till you see two entries whose line ends in the word universe
[09:39] <Madpilot> OrTigaS, you shoudn't ever need to login as root
[09:39] <todd> i see them
[09:39] <RabidDog_> hmm eth2 is not working, trying eth3
[09:39] <DBO> ok, now you see the # signs in front of them?
[09:39] <todd> yea
[09:39] <OrTigaS> but my root pwd and i'm using now is the same
[09:39] <PwcrLinux> Madpilot: Hmmm im confused, I am in the cursor selection program, and I go to website to download onto my flashdrive and I run the program, and it's says cannot open the file is arc'ives.
[09:39] <DBO> todd, put your cursor over those signs, and press x (lower case) once
[09:39] <RabidDog_> ah eth2 bad connection
[09:39] <todd> k
[09:39] <todd> done
[09:39] <DBO> then put your cursor over the next one, and press x again
[09:39] <Madpilot> PwcrLinux, just a second
[09:40] <DBO> for those two lines, they are gone?
[09:40] <todd> done
[09:40] <DBO> good!
[09:40] <OrTigaS> gtg thanks guys tom again
[09:40] <todd> exit again?
[09:40] <RabidDog_> ok eth3 does not work
[09:40] <DBO> todd, now press escape then type :wq then enter
[09:40] <OrTigaS> exit
[09:40] <todd> k
[09:40] <ubuntu_> hi, can anyone advise me on a tape backup program i can use in ubuntu?
[09:40] <DBO> todd, now do a "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop"
[09:41] <todd> now sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[09:41] <todd> k
[09:41] <Madpilot> PwcrLinux, have you installed gcursor?
[09:41] <devnull> what channel are the ops in ?
[09:41] <DBO> todd, you got it
[09:41] <DBO> devnul, they are in here...
[09:41] <Ichigo> How do I get my root directory back?
[09:41] <DBO> devnull, they just arent opped
[09:41] <Madpilot> devnull, we lurk :P
[09:41] <liable> devnull: ops? they are here or maybe you mean #freenode??
[09:41] <PwcrLinux> Madpilot: yes installed already, and I am inside of cursor selection program
[09:41] <devnull> ya freenode
[09:41] <DBO> Madpilot, doesnt like to let people know he is supreme ruler
[09:41] <RabidDog_> hmm eth0,2,3 aren't working
[09:41] <devnull> just forgot what channel
[09:42] <Madpilot> devnull, if you mean Freenode's system admins, then you want #freenode
[09:42] <todd> it says i want to run apt update to correct prolbems and couldnt find packages
[09:42] <DBO> uhg...
[09:42] <RabidDog_> liable, seems something wrong
[09:42] <RabidDog_> hmm eth0,2,3 aren't working
[09:42] <Madpilot> PwcrLinux, hmm, I tried installing a cursor set using those instructions a month or so ago; it worked, but I can't remember details
[09:42] <DBO> todd press the up arrow till you see the sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list entry
[09:42] <DBO> then press enter
[09:43] <liable> RabidDog_: with both router/modem??
[09:43] <maruchan> so is there an easy way to install windows on ubuntu
[09:43] <todd> k
[09:43] <RabidDog_> yep
[09:43] <maruchan> iv looked the through the forums
[09:43] <todd> done
[09:43] <RabidDog_> on eth1 works
[09:43] <maruchan> and havent found something
[09:43] <maruchan> err anything
[09:43] <PwcrLinux> Madpilot: yea, the cursors archive in my USB flashdrive (saved in case of diseaster)
[09:43] <maruchan> my hd is an ubuntu partion
[09:43] <DBO> todd, no go down, and right below those two entries you uncommented will be two more, are they commented (#) out as well?
[09:44] <DBO> now*
[09:44] <devnull> ya trying to get my ownership of my nickname back
[09:44] <liable> RabidDog_: eth1 is a card? eth0 onboard?
[09:44] <saik0> how would i get the md5sum of some text without writing it to a file or having it logged someplace?
[09:44] <RabidDog_> card
[09:44] <RabidDog_> eth0 onboard
[09:44] <RabidDog_> eth0 onboardeth 123 car
[09:44] <RabidDog_> err
[09:44] <todd> they have # signs
[09:44] <RabidDog_> eth0 onboard, eth 123 card
[09:44] <DBO> todd, use the x button to remove them
[09:44] <maruchan> can i use gpartion to make room on my partion to install windows
[09:44] <todd> both lines
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[09:44] <maruchan> or is that imposslbe to do
[09:44] <liable> RabidDog_: you sure? check mac's
[09:45] <DBO> todd, yes, then do a :wq and press enter
[09:45] <todd> k
[09:45] <todd> now sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[09:45] <todd> ?
[09:45] <DBO> todd, yes
[09:46] <PwcrLinux> madp: Do i need to extract into .icon dir from the archive?
[09:46] <RabidDog_> liable well I have the cables that work connected to the first card in the first pci slot, next to the gfx card, and if I do "sudo ifup eth1" the connection works
[09:46] <PwcrLinux> Madpilot:  Do i need to extract into .icon dir from the archive?
[09:46] <todd> it says uncomment is not known on line 23 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list........the list of sources could not be read
[09:46] <Seveas> jenda, don't spam.
[09:46] <Madpilot> PwcrLinux, you could try extracting it to .icons in your home dir
[09:46] <nalioth> jenda: for shame!
[09:47] <PwcrLinux> okay..
[09:47] <jenda> Seveas, nalioth I asked in #ubuntu-offtopic first, but you weren't around!
[09:47] <DBO> todd cat -m /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:47] <DBO> erm
[09:47] <Seveas> jenda, then you should have waited :)
[09:47] <DBO> todd cat -n /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:47] <todd> k
[09:47] <DBO> todd, what does line 23 say?
[09:48] <todd> more lines of stuff
[09:48] <dido> arav
[09:48] <todd> 23 says uncomments the following two lines to add software from the backports repository
[09:48] <liable> RabidDog_: ok, check kernel log for irq conflicts or something i guess.
[09:49] <DBO> todd, is there a # before it?
[09:49] <RabidDog_> ok I will
[09:49] <todd> no
[09:49] <maruchan> so anyone know if i can do this with gparted, with my unused data on my main partion make anothe rpartion to install windows
[09:49] <maruchan> ?
[09:49] <DBO> ok, you deleted one you shouldnt have, thats ok, we will fix it
[09:49] <PwcrLinux> Madpilot: I checked the archives, the cursor files just all programs, no icons or themes grrr
[09:49] <todd> there was 2 # signs before them but now thers none
[09:49] <DBO> todd, I see what happened...
[09:49] <todd> o line 24 there is no # sign
[09:49] <DBO> todd, my fault
[09:50] <Madpilot> PwcrLinux, try gnome-look.org or art.gnome.org for cursor themes
[09:50] <todd> i guess i shouldnt of done that line huh
[09:50] <PwcrLinux> Madpilot: go to http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=20568
[09:50] <DBO> todd, I assumed you had the multiverse entries as well
[09:50] <todd> i dunno
[09:50] <DBO> todd "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list"
[09:50] <maruchan> any help? please
[09:50] <DBO> scroll down with nano, and put the # infront of the lines again
[09:51] <DBO> (one is enough, two if you want)
[09:51] <todd> k
[09:51] <Madpilot> PwcrLinux, follow the first line of the instructions given there, then run gcursor
[09:53] <PwcrLinux> Madp: oh! darn.. and I will find art.gnome site if they're auto installs..
[09:53] <DBO> todd, got that fixed?
[09:53] <todd> what was i sospoed to fix
[09:53] <FexCko> hi there!
[09:53] <DBO> todd, those two lines you had uncommented (the second time we went in), I want you to put a ## back in front of them
[09:54] <Madpilot> PwcrLinux, art.gnome.org uses similar packaging to gnome-look - you need to download the .zip file, unpack it, then run gcursors to install it
[09:54] <RabidDog__> irq 18 on eth2 and 3, seems like a conflict
[09:54] <todd> they were there when i loaded this page
[09:54] <todd> line 23 and 24 right
[09:54] <DBO> anything that doesnt start with deb
[09:55] <todd> ok i see them now sorry
[09:55] <RabidDog__> eth 0 is using irq 16
[09:55] <todd> l there fixed
[09:55] <DBO> todd, make sure that the two entries for universe are not commented out (no #)
[09:55] <todd> the deb ones are still uncommented
[09:55] <DBO> are you sure?
[09:55] <todd> got it
[09:56] <DBO> todd, now press control + O
[09:56] <DBO> then control + X
[09:56] <RabidDog__> liable I'll have to correct the irq conflict later
[09:56] <todd> k
[09:56] <DBO> then type (no typoes now) "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop"
[09:56] <RabidDog__> thanks for your help liable, I'll prolly remove the 3rd pci card
[09:57] <DBO> todd, it IS case sensitive
[09:57] <liable> good luck tracking it down, whatever it is.
[09:57] <PwcrLinux> Madpilot: I could use the syanptic repos and found it's have xlargecursor in there..
[09:57] <DBO> liable, another one for the fish that got away bucket?
[09:57] <todd> type it where it says : file name to write
[09:57] <Madpilot> PwcrLinux, even easier! :P
[09:57] <DBO> todd, press escape
[09:58] <todd> k
[09:58] <todd> nothin happend
[09:58] <DBO> todd, press control + C
[09:58] <todd> k
[09:58] <todd> canclled
[09:58] <DBO> todd, press control + X
[09:58] <DBO> (see, told you I dont use nano)
[09:58] <todd> save modified buffer
[09:58] <DBO> it will ask you if you want to save the buffer, press y
[09:58] <todd> ?
[09:58] <todd> file name to write?
[09:59] <liable> DBO: we cant all answer the easy ones :P
[09:59] <DBO> /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:59] <todd> k back to the beginning
[09:59] <DBO> liable, oh sure... just run from my witty comeback
[10:00] <DBO> todd, ok, now do a "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop"
[10:00] <liable> DBO: say it again, closed the wrong window.
[10:00] <DBO> liable, I did...  Im not very witty you see, but I figured I might trick you into thinking I had some
[10:00] <liable> heh
[10:00] <todd> same thing as before
[10:00] <DBO> todd, ARGH
[10:00] <RabidDog__> liable well I have eliminate the irq conflict first b4 i can continue with troubleshooting
[10:01] <todd> couldnt find package and u may want to run apt-get update to correct issues
[10:01] <DBO> doh...
[10:01] <DBO> sudo apt-get update
[10:01] <liable> RabidDog__: it may not even be a conflict, cards can share irq's
[10:01] <DBO> liable, I get the overlook the obvious award today!
[10:01] <RabidDog__> oh they can?
[10:01] <liable> RabidDog__: just something to see if the kernel whined about.
[10:01] <RabidDog__> hmm
[10:01] <DBO> todd, now run the command again
[10:02] <todd> im not connected to the inter do i need ot be
[10:02] <DBO> (the xubuntu one)
[10:02] <DBO> yes...
[10:02] <todd> one sec
[10:02] <todd> i cant if i unplug my other box i will be off the internet i have wirelesss on my mac but i dont know how to get to this channel
[10:03] <liable> RabidDog__: you should be able to set it in bios too.
[10:03] <RabidDog__> yeah
[10:03] <DBO> todd... ok, does your mac have an IRC client?
[10:03] <todd> no
[10:03] <liable> RabidDog__: for s&g, pull em all out and see if onboard at least works then.
[10:03] <DBO> todd, ok, here is what I want you to do
[10:04] <_vinboy> any good game for linux?
[10:04] <PwcrLinux> Madpilot: synaptic installed "big-cursor" then what I do need to take effects?
[10:04] <DBO> todd, you are going to unplug you box, plug it into the other machine (internet), you will run "sudo apt-get update" then "sudo apt-get install xubuntu"  once BOTH commands have finished, plug this machine back in, and join this channel again
[10:04] <DBO> erm
[10:04] <todd> k thank brb
[10:05] <DBO> second command is "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop"
[10:05] <Madpilot> PwcrLinux, try System->Preferences->Mouse, then the Cursors tab
[10:07] <PwcrLinux> Madpilot: I checked and just only 1 default mouse.. and then I looked at the synaptic "installed" box and that shows in the dir of /usr/lib and etc...
[10:07] <DBO> liable, whats the short on RabidDog__'s issue?
[10:07] <liable> DBO: appears to be hardware issues
[10:09] <_divan_> hello fellas
[10:09] <DBO> hi
[10:09] <DBO> need help?
[10:09] <_divan_> =) yep
[10:09] <foxpaul> does anyone know if i can test my cron.hourly script? force it to run, for example? i want to make sure it's working
[10:09] <DBO> _divan_, what is your issue?
[10:10] <_divan_> I wonder if you guys know how to solve a problem with hotplug system in Ubuntu 5.10..
[10:10] <Belkrem> i have a problem
[10:10] <DBO> ok, ask away
[10:11] <_divan_> Evere time i boot linux after windows the system hangs up with a message "starting hotplug subsystem" //
[10:11] <Belkrem> my computer won't startx
[10:11] <DBO> Belkrem, getting any error messages?
[10:11] <Belkrem> i can't fix the problem because i havn't set a root password
[10:11] <RabidDog__> sudo user password
[10:11] <geneo93> use sudo
[10:11] <alexnicol> Belkren
[10:11] <_divan_> Belkrem> set it
[10:11] <DBO> Belkrem, to set a root password "sudo passwd"
[10:11] <Belkrem> cool thanks
[10:11] <ompaul> !tell Belkrem about root
[10:11] <foxpaul> Belkrem: there's no root on ubuntu. setting a root password isn't recommended
[10:12] <DBO> foxpaul, its needed in some cases
[10:12] <alexnicol> Belkrem, sudo passwd root
[10:12] <Belkrem> well i need to get into root to fix xorg
[10:12] <alexnicol> the password it then asks for is the one you have already set
[10:12] <foxpaul> also, you can do sudo su (enter user password) and that'll give you a root shell
[10:12] <ompaul> Belkrem, no you don't
[10:12] <foxpaul> DBO: ^^
[10:12] <alexnicol> and then set the root password
[10:12] <saik0> or sudo -i
[10:12] <Belkrem> cool
[10:12] <ompaul> Belkrem, want to take the sudo challenge
[10:12] <DBO> foxpaul, so will sudo -s
[10:13] <DBO> =P
[10:13] <DBO> I think Belkrem is ready for a test on sudo...
[10:13] <saik0> hello DBO
[10:13] <PwcrLinux> Madpilot: you there?
[10:13] <ompaul> Belkrem, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:13] <Madpilot> PwcrLinux, for a few more minutes, yes
[10:14] <DBO> saik0, you are in audioscrobbler too... weird...
[10:14] <PwcrLinux> :)
[10:14] <AstralJava> ompaul: I seem to remember some things that one needs to set as root, not using sudo. Like settings under /proc/ and such.
[10:14] <saik0> DBO, not going to start hugging me cross server now are you =P
[10:14] <ompaul> Belkrem, choose the video card type VESA
[10:15] <nalioth> foxpaul: please don't recommend that in here
[10:15] <DBO> saik0, we need to save offtopic for the other server
[10:15] <nalioth> !root
[10:15] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[10:15] <ompaul> AstralJava, in 10 years of being a sysadmin I have never set something under proc thgat is where you inspect output
[10:15] <DBO> _divan_, what system do you have?
[10:15] <Belkrem> does xorgconfig not work in ubuntu
[10:15] <nalioth> Belkrem: do not 'sudo su'
[10:15] <_divan_> DBO> ubuntu 5.10 with the kernel out of the box
[10:15] <ompaul> Belkrem, why did I give you that command?
[10:16] <DBO> _divan_, sorry, I meant hardware, namely soundcard
[10:16] <liable> Belkrem: dont use xorgconfig either
[10:16] <liable> Belkrem: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:16] <Belkrem> what takes the place of xorgconfig
[10:16] <ompaul> liable, where is the sudo
[10:16] <_divan_> DBO> Asus laptop with HDA Intel chip - ALC880
[10:17] <AstralJava> ompaul: Well just the other day I had to help someone fix Internet connection sharing for someone, and the suggestions at wiki.ubuntu.com said you have to set ip_forwarding under /proc/. You couldn't do that with sudo.
[10:17] <Madpilot> Belkrem, ompaul already told you: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:17] <liable> ompaul: i leant it to someone about an hour ago, and havent gotten it back?
[10:18] <MenZa> "<!> It is highly recommended NOT to allow root to login graphically!" - why?
[10:18] <todd_> back
[10:18] <DBO> MenZa, easy to hose the system
[10:18] <DBO> todd_, how'd it go?
[10:18] <MenZa> Ah, right.
[10:18] <_divan_> DBO> I read some about soundcard and stuff - eventually i changed ALSA drivers but it doesn't seem to go away
[10:19] <todd_> i had to boot into gnome and make the eth0 active so now im in gnome and i did the sudo apt-get update and everythign updated
[10:19] <ompaul> AstralJava, catch this manual on iptables
[10:19] <DBO> todd, did you do the install?
[10:19] <todd_> i did sudo get-apt xubuntu-desktop
[10:20] <DBO> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[10:20] <AstralJava> ompaul: Come again?
[10:20] <todd_> yea sorry
[10:20] <ompaul> AstralJava, ip forwarding
[10:20] <ompaul> enjoy
[10:20] <DBO> did it take it todd?
[10:20] <todd_> it said some packages could not be installed and a bunch of files names with depends in front of them
[10:21] <todd_> like abiword,graveman,ivman,afce4,afce4-sensors plugin
[10:22] <ompaul> If there is a wrong way to do somethings then some people will find them, just because you can cross the road when the lights are red does not mean you should
[10:22] <AstralJava> ompaul: All I'm saying is that Ubuntu has instructions under it's core website that tells user to do something that requires root priviledges. I don't need this feature, so I don't really care. That particular scenario couldn't be completed without root account being enabled. I have nothing more to say on this issue.
[10:22] <todd_> i tried going into packet manger and searching for it but it froze
[10:22] <baua> how can i update from breezy to dapper flight 6. is it possible to just change entries in sources.list?
[10:22] <nalioth> ubotu: tell baua about upgrade
[10:23] <Madpilot> AstralJava, anyone can write stuff on the Ubuntu wiki. Sometimes what they write is less than optimal...
[10:23] <AstralJava> Madpilot: Ahh... okay then, that might the reason.
[10:23] <Madpilot> AstralJava, if you seen problems like that, and you know a cleaner/better way, log in and edit it yourself (please!)
[10:24] <AstralJava> Madpilot: Maybe that particular page should then be looked at by someone who knows a better way, so it won't mislead people. I certainly don't. :)
[10:24] <todd_> any ideas
[10:24] <ompaul> AstralJava, there are so many references to forward which one did you find so this can be done
[10:24] <Madpilot> AstralJava, which page? I can forward it to the wiki team mailing list for someone to disect
[10:24] <AstralJava> Madpilot: Hang on, I'll look for it.
[10:25] <AstralJava> Madpilot: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ShareInternetConnection
[10:25] <Belkrem> ubuntu doesn't like me having an onboard nvidia card and a pcie ati card both enabled so until i find the manual and a spare jumper to disable the onboard my video is going to take a hit
[10:25] <Madpilot> AstralJava, noted, thanks
[10:26] <AstralJava> Madpilot: Not a problem. It's good that things like this will be taken care of.
[10:26] <todd_> any ideas???
[10:26] <baua> nalioth: just tell
[10:26] <nalioth> baua: look to your private messages
[10:26] <Madpilot> AstralJava, upper-right corner of every wiki page has a login/signup link - please help improve the wiki if you can!
[10:28] <AstralJava> Madpilot: I will, but thus far I'm not experienced/educated enough to know the better way. If/when I do, I'll jump on it, I can guarantee that. :)
[10:28] <baua> nalioth: sorry and thanks
[10:28] <htrp> what version of xchat are yall using?
[10:28] <AstralJava> Madpilot: That's why I've stayed in this chatroom, I can help when/where I can.
[10:29] <ompaul> see there are 647 people channel in this room
[10:29] <Madpilot> 646 in a second - g'night all
[10:30] <PwcrLinux> Madpilot: go to the pastebin to see my pasted for big cursor.. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11580
[10:30] <PwcrLinux> darn
[10:30] <todd_> dbo???
[10:31] <PwcrLinux> madpilot didn't response, I've been waited for him to answer.. oh well..
[10:31] <ompaul> htrp, you would get lots of answers so people would be using the versions found here http://packages.ubuntu.com/ depending on their version
[10:32] <htrp> sorry
[10:32] <zhLilDoggi> hrm...
[10:32] <htrp> had to
[10:32] <liable> why?
[10:33] <ompaul> htrp, no you did not
[10:33] <nalioth> htrp: why?
[10:33] <PwcrLinux> [CTCP]  Received a CTCP VERSION from htrp (to #ubuntu)
[10:33] <htrp> nothing
[10:33] <nalioth> htrp: it is considered extremely rude (if not downright aggressive) to ctcp version a whole channel
[10:34] <htrp> my fault
[10:34] <htrp> brb
[10:34] <zhLilDoggi> I wouldn't like 647 version replies in my status window
[10:34] <RabidDog__> okay if I setup a mapped networked drive to my ubuntu, and I want to be able to delete it a file in there from my windows box, how do I give the windows machine permission to delete or write to the dir on the ubuntu box?
[10:34] <zhLilDoggi> :o
[10:34] <lwelyn> PwcrLinux: what ?
[10:35] <PwcrLinux> lwelyn: htrp flooded a ctcp versions..
[10:35] <todd_> dbo???
[10:35] <lwelyn> mhm. ok
[10:35] <Belkrem> it's now saying xserver is disabed when i try to startx
[10:35] <todd_> brb
[10:36] <AstralJava> RabidDog__: I'm only guessing here, but might have to be world-writable.
[10:36] <RabidDog__> I'm not sure I understand world writable
[10:36] <liable> erm, more like a samba option
[10:37] <RabidDog__> ....
[10:37] <RabidDog__> okay how do I set that?
[10:37] <AstralJava> RabidDog__: chmod -R o+w <directory>
[10:39] <AstralJava> Oh, if it's samba we're talking about, then I won't know. Not sure about those.
[10:39] <RabidDog__> wow that was easy :p
[10:39] <RabidDog__> much nicer then my network card issues... :)
[10:39] <RabidDog__> thanks AstralJava
[10:40] <AstralJava> RabidDog__: That worked? Nice. You're welcome. :)
[10:40] <RabidDog__> yep
[10:40] <PwcrLinux> anyone know about large mouse pointer, I've installed the "Big Cursor" via synaptic manager
[10:41] <Belkrem> how do i reenable xserver
[10:41] <tonyyarusso> Patching a kernel involves recompiling it, doesn't it?
[10:42] <liable> tonyyarusso: yes
[10:42] <tonyyarusso> liable: So, I've never done that, but generally learn reasonably fast - think I could handle it without too much grief?
[10:43] <AstralJava> Belkrem: What's the problem? How is it disabled?
[10:43] <liable> tonyyarusso: yes, make-kpkg makes it fairly painless, its the config that may give you greif if you dont make an initrd.
[10:43] <tonyyarusso> liable: All right.  (Hoping wiki pages are explicit...)
[10:44] <liable> tonyyarusso: there is a good (albeit old) debian compile guide on osnews. very verbose compile guide (google that)
[10:44] <tonyyarusso> liable: Okay.
[10:44] <kameron> what's a suitable X server for old cards? i have some unknown video card on ISA on a p2 board.. i can't get X to start trying vesa and fbdev.
[10:47] <ompaul> kameron, the joys of monochrome
[10:47] <kameron> ompaul, black and white are all you really need i suppose
[10:48] <ompaul> kameron, its all shades of grey
[10:48] <kameron> ompaul, well, on a fresh xubuntu install, it's all shades of nothing. but ubuntu loads up to say that it can't find a suitable x-server for my card.
[10:48] <PwcrLinux> anyone know about large mouse pointer, I've installed the "Big Cursor" via synaptic manager
[10:49] <ompaul> kameron, even linux moves on some times
[10:49] <kameron> p2 isn't THAT old.
[10:49] <DarkMageZ> kameron, yeah, but your videocard is :P
[10:50] <kameron> haha, dang.. good call DarkMageZ
[10:50] <void^> p2 isn't, but isa video cards, that's almost 80s.
[10:50] <kameron> can you hot swap video cards?
[10:50] <DarkMageZ> kameron, even ye old p1 had a pci videocard
[10:50] <kameron> and by can you.. i mean.. i don't care if everything crashes, i'm going to.. will the video card die?
[10:51] <PwcrLinux> !cursor
[10:51] <ubotu> PwcrLinux: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:51] <kameron> the only other video cards i have are on pci-e.. and the board obviously doesn't support it
[10:51] <void^> get a $2,50 matrox card on ebay
[10:52] <void^> or figure out which chipset the isa card is.
[10:52] <kameron> so i didn't hear any objections to pulling the card out hot.
[10:52] <kameron> so i'll give'er a shot.
[10:53] <void^> ..now if you cared for either card or mainboard you wouldn't do that.
[10:53] <kameron> void^, negative on the care
[10:54] <DarkMageZ> kameron, it's common knowledge that isa cards aren't hotswapable, and will probley crash the system, and possible kill the card
[10:54] <kameron> DarkMageZ, hmm, seems not too bad.
[10:54] <kameron> but i don't have a monitor up to really know what's going on.
[10:55] <kameron> DarkMageZ, and i don't know what year you're living in.. but there is no common knowledge about ISA now-a-days.. except for "oh yeah, isn't that the uh.. really old slot on grandpas board?" ;-)
[10:56] <DarkMageZ> kameron, lol, depends on which circles u are in
[10:57] <kameron> DarkMageZ, how about the college circle? :P
[10:58] <DarkMageZ> kameron, "guys guys, connect to my phones share, i ported windows to my phone!!!" :P
[10:58] <kameron> haha.
[11:00] <Belkrem> is there any text based browsers like links in ubunto
[11:00] <ompaul> !offtopic
[11:00] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[11:00] <PwcrLinux> anyone know about large mouse pointer, I've installed the "Big Cursor" via synaptic manager?
[11:00] <ompaul> Belkrem, links2 lynx
[11:01] <liable> what theres no links?
[11:02] <Belkrem> i tired links and it doesn't work for me
[11:02] <Belkrem> *tried
[11:02] <Belkrem> this is annoying is there any easy way to update to unstable video drivers
[11:03] <kameron> DarkMageZ, void^, ompaul.. it's a ATI 28800-6, if that means anything.
[11:03] <Belkrem> like with gentoo you alter /etc/portage/package.keywords then emerge nvidia
[11:03] <ompaul> kameron, I can't remember when I last used ISA
[11:03] <tonyyarusso> Is there an equivalent to the ThinkWiki for HP Pavillion laptops?
[11:04] <AstralJava> Belkrem: Are  you using nv at the moment?
[11:04] <DarkMageZ> kameron, http://www.xfree86.org/4.2.0/Status6.html
[11:04] <tigrux> What happened to the cute drake that was inside the examples of content?
[11:05] <Belkrem> yea but i have a nv 6150 i think it isn't supported
[11:05] <DarkMageZ> kameron, http://wiki.x.org/X11R6.8.0/doc/ati3.html
[11:06] <ompaul> tigrux, ask in #ubuntu+1 that is for dapper questions
[11:07] <AstralJava> Belkrem: I don't know what 6150 means there, but you can try installing nvidia-glx.
[11:07] <tigrux> omer: THX
[11:07] <Belkrem> i have a nvidia geforce 6150 is just the card model
[11:07] <AstralJava> Belkrem: Ahh... okay then. Let me google a bit.
[11:08] <PwcrLinux> anyone know about large mouse pointer, I've installed the "Big Cursor" via synaptic manager and seem tried other program didn't show the big cursor.
[11:08] <d-o-b> Hi guys, How can I configure grub to put another OS on top of the menu?
[11:09] <liable> PwcrLinux: have you tried reding the docs for it? or the man page?
[11:10] <liable> PwcrLinux: what are the errors you have or problems?
[11:10] <PwcrLinux> liable: let me look in the docs right now
[11:11] <PwcrLinux> liable: go to the pastebin to see my pasted for big cursor.. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11580
[11:11] <AstralJava> Belkrem: Looks like that one is really not too well supported, as you said. I'm afraid I can't help there, I'm sorry.... :(
[11:11] <liable> PwcrLinux: did you restart x??
[11:11] <PwcrLinux> liable: not yet
[11:12] <liable> PwcrLinux: the very first thing it says in the readme, is that you probably need to restart x..
[11:12] <Belkrem> what is the mount poitn for the cdrom
[11:13] <PwcrLinux> liable: Do i need to reboot the system or what?
[11:13] <AstralJava> Belkrem: /media/cdrom
[11:13] <liable> PwcrLinux: no, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[11:15] <PwcrLinux> liable: does the gdm would reboot or restart (just like a shut down program and start programs up?)?
[11:15] <liable> PwcrLinux: gdm manages x for you. it will restart it.
[11:16] <PwcrLinux> okay. hang on
[11:16] <liable> PwcrLinux: it will just restart x
[11:21] <tigrux> How can I know what package owns a file?
[11:22] <sfar> Have you heard about the guy who went to the doctor's after having unprotected phone sex? Now he has hearing AIDS :(
[11:23] <PwcrLinux> Oh boy! shame on someone lol, the restart x didn't effects, and I had to sudo reboot in the full "terminal" like..
[11:23] <ompaul> tigrux, in a terminal apt-cache show package
[11:24] <tigrux> ompaul: But I want to know the package, I have a file that belongs to a package.
[11:24] <liable> PwcrLinux: ok, but does it work?
[11:24] <PwcrLinux> liable: shame on you lol!, the restart x didn't effects.. I had to sudo reboot grrrr
[11:25] <liable> PwcrLinux: well, the docs said restarting x should..
[11:25] <PwcrLinux> liable: the mouse pointer still default..
[11:25] <SpiderMan> can anybody help me with resolv.conf, and why the suffix does not get put into your resolved address, only if you have 2 search domains ?
[11:26] <liable> PwcrLinux: gimme 10, i am eating, i will take a look..
[11:26] <PwcrLinux> liable:  Okay :)
[11:26] <ompaul> tigrux, sorry I don't have an answer for that
[11:27] <tigrux> Thanks anyway.
[11:27] <tigrux> Bye
[11:27] <liable> tigrux: apt-file
[11:27] <liable> meh
[11:32] <PwcrLinux> wb liable
[11:32] <liable> PwcrLinux: i just restarted x, and now i have a huge cursor..
[11:32] <PwcrLinux> how?
[11:32] <liable> thats all i had to do
[11:33] <liable> PwcrLinux: i am on debian sid atm though, try reading /usr/share/doc/big-cursor/readme
[11:33] <PwcrLinux> okay let me dig into home and look for it.
[11:35] <liable> PwcrLinux: this is a single desktop machine i take it? not a networked box?
[11:36] <PwcrLinux> liable: this one is a lappy
[11:36] <liable> PwcrLinux: k
[11:38] <sfar> hm, after i log in to gnome i see the splash screen on a brown background before i see my actual desktop.. how do i change the brown background to something else?
[11:38] <sovieticool> anyoane know why i can't see this movie ?
[11:38] <sfar> s/after/when
[11:38] <sovieticool> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-199899523054020719&q=linux
[11:38] <PwcrLinux> liable: I didn't understand in the readme.. how I need to restart x?
[11:38] <sfar> sovieticool: you have not installed flash?
[11:38] <Jemt> PwcrLinux: CTRL + ALT + Backspace
[11:38] <sfar> ubotu: tell sovieticool about flash
[11:38] <liable> PwcrLinux: you already have if you rebooted..
[11:38] <sovieticool> tahanx sfar !
[11:39] <Jemt> True
[11:39] <liable> PwcrLinux: stopping gdm is one way, ctrl+alt+backspace is another.
[11:40] <PwcrLinux> liable: I was copied to terminal and sudo'd and it's goes dos-like screen that didn't effect, and had to do sudo reboot..
[11:40] <plbgnr> hello, I use ubuntu breezy and have problem with my internet connection; I use wifi card for it with chip rt2400, module rt2400 is loaded and iwconfig (RaConfig - gtk utility for rt2400 too) show that I am "connected", but I can't ping AP. btw, If I run route command, it takes too long to display result... any ideas?
[11:42] <liable> PwcrLinux: well, i dunno whats wrong, i just restarted x and now i have a huge cursor
[11:42] <rob_p> plbgnr:  Sounds like the wireless part is working.  Check your network settings (IP, static, dhcp, gateway, etc.).
[11:42] <SunburnM> Hey, whats up???
[11:42] <liable> PwcrLinux: try re-installing it, then hit alt+ctrl+backspace
[11:43] <SunburnM> I try to use ubuntu but it doesn't work right
[11:43] <Kennie> anyone here who knows much about Zabbix? (bit offtopic)
[11:43] <liable> brb, gotta get my normal one back
[11:43] <SunburnM> can anybody tell me why im able to join irc but can't connect to google or something else
[11:44] <AstralJava> plbgnr: If you type ipconfig, what do you get? Could you use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org and tell us the link, please.
[11:44] <plbgnr> rob_p:dhcp is not working in our LAN, so I set those parameters manually, and use for it /etc/network/interfaces ...it looks good, myip,gw and broadcast...
[11:44] <SunburnM> dhcp is runnig. a friend told me that my dns is not working right
[11:45] <rob_p> plbgnr:  Well, I'd double-check your network settings.  You should at least be able to ping the router.  If you can't, make sure your box is configured within the same network segment.
[11:45] <plbgnr> AstralJava:so I am now on debian etch where it works good (the same box) but I can boot ubuntu and try...
[11:45] <sovieticool> what is this ?
[11:45] <sovieticool> W: Couldn't stat source package list cdrom://Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release amd64 (20051012) breezy/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/Ubuntu%205.10%20%5fBreezy%20Badger%5f%20-%20Release%20amd64%20(20051012)_dists_breezy_main_binary-amd64_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[11:45] <sovieticool> W: Couldn't stat source package list cdrom://Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release amd64 (20051012) breezy/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/Ubuntu%205.10%20%5fBreezy%20Badger%5f%20-%20Release%20amd64%20(20051012)_dists_breezy_restricted_binary-amd64_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[11:45] <Marisa_tran> Hellow
[11:46] <SunburnM> i can ping the route
[11:46] <Marisa_tran> I'm Marisa
[11:46] <liable> sovieticool: comment out the cdrom line in sources.list
[11:46] <Marisa_tran> So what's happening in here?
[11:46] <Marisa_tran> :)
[11:47] <SunburnM> ipconfig doesn't work
[11:47] <sovieticool> where is sources.list ?
[11:47] <Seveas> sovieticool, /etc/apt/
[11:47] <Kennie> SunburnM : ifconfig
[11:47] <rob_p> SunburnM:  It's ifconfig, not ipconfig.
[11:47] <plbgnr> rob_p: and what about long response time for route command? have you idea what can be that?
[11:47] <AstralJava> SunburnM: ifconfig, yeah. Sorry I'm an idiot. :)
[11:48] <SunburnM> sorry. now
[11:48] <SunburnM> what u need
[11:49] <SunburnM> there is an ip, bcast, mask,...
[11:49] <Trigger7> does anyone know where i can find gcc 4.1 packages for ubuntu?
[11:49] <PwcrLinux> Im back
[11:49] <SpiderMan> can anybody help me with resolv.conf, and why the suffix does not get put into your resolved address, only if you have 2 search domains ?
[11:50] <sovieticool> Seveas i'am now in sources.list
[11:50] <sovieticool> now what line to erase >
[11:50] <sovieticool> ?
[11:50] <Kennie> getting checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables while compiling apache, what should i install? gcc en cpp is already installed
[11:50] <PwcrLinux> liable: Im back, I did reinstalled and hits the ctrl alt backspace, it's goes to dos-box like and then I entered my login/password and then startx, that mouse still same default. something wrong with it?
[11:50] <Seveas> sovieticool, the ones that mention cdrom
[11:51] <Seveas> !tell Kennie about compiling
[11:51] <liable> Kennie: install build-essential
[11:51] <liable> PwcrLinux: you dont have gdm installed eh?
[11:51] <Kennie> ty
[11:51] <sovieticool> this ? ...deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release amd64 (20051012)] / breezy main restricted
[11:51] <sfar> yes sovieticool
[11:51] <sovieticool> ok
[11:52] <htrp> how do you downgrade xchat to 2.4 from 2.6.1?
[11:52] <Sunburn> ???
[11:52] <Sunburn> back again
[11:52] <liable> PwcrLinux: well, i guees you need to chech bugzilla or something then
[11:52] <PwcrLinux> liable: I guess, i'll remove from the sypantic manager list..
[11:52] <PwcrLinux> brb
[11:52] <liable> PwcrLinux: why dont you have gdm installed?
[11:53] <Sunburn> can't connect to internet sites
[11:53] <htrp> how do I downgrade xchat to 2.4 from 2.6.1?
[11:53] <Sunburn> someone german???
[11:53] <sovieticool> ohh i try to install flash but ..this say to me :(
[11:53] <PwcrLinux> liable: what's gdm?
[11:54] <kameron> htrp, uninstall xchat, change mirrors to breezy ones, reinstall?
[11:54] <liable> PwcrLinux: did you do a standard install?
[11:54] <sovieticool> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavail able)
[11:54] <sovieticool> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another proc ess using it?
[11:54] <sfar> sovieticool: you need to close synaptic
[11:54] <liable> sovieticool: close the other window of synaptic
[11:54] <PwcrLinux> liable: my lappy for linux only on new hard drive..
[11:55] <liable> PwcrLinux: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[11:55] <sovieticool> oo ok
[11:55] <sovieticool> done
[11:55] <AstralJava> Sunburn: If you type ifconfig, which interfaces can you see? Interface can be eth0, eth1 etc.
[11:55] <r0ot> hey how are you ubottu
[11:56] <sovieticool> i install now flash but steel not able to see flash animation :(
[11:56] <r0ot> or is it sudo rm *.*
[11:56] <PwcrLinux> Liab: failed
[11:56] <r0ot> ubotu dance for me please
[11:57] <Matthewv> r0ot, its rm -rf / :) but don't do that...
[11:57] <liable> PwcrLinux: erm, go into synaptic, and make sure its installed.
[11:57] <sfar> sovieticool: what have you installed? (and have you restarted firefox?)
[11:57] <sovieticool> yes
[11:57] <sovieticool> i restart firefox
[11:58] <PwcrLinux> liable: which search to be match in the synaptic?
[11:58] <liable> PwcrLinux: gdm
[11:58] <PwcrLinux> okay hang on
[11:58] <Sunburn> need help with ubuntu. i can join the irc but can't open inet sites
[11:58] <sovieticool> this i use sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla
[11:58] <locomorto> I tried to look on the internet, but couldn;t find an answer to this
[11:58] <sovieticool> i have amd64
[11:58] <George007> Sunburn,  proxy problems maybe?
[11:59] <locomorto> Do you install otf fonts the same way as ttf fonts the same way? So that they work in GTK/Gnome apps?
[11:59] <PwcrLinux> liable: Yes, it's already there (green box = installed)
[11:59] <locomorto> I can get it to work in KOffice, just not in my gnome apps
[11:59] <locomorto> KOffice by using the kcontrol font installer thing
[12:00] <Sunburn> no. maybe dns but i don't know where i can change these. sry. new linux user
[12:00] <liable> PwcrLinux: when you boot up, do you get the dos login or the graphical one?
[12:00] <PwcrLinux> liable: graphical
[12:00] <sovieticool> sfar i install flash from synaptic and when i finish he say to me i have the latest ver if flash
[12:01] <pstinghua> hello
[12:01] <kameron> howdy pstinghua
[12:01] <pstinghua> is anyone can speak chinese
[12:01] <sfar> sovieticool: hm, it should work now
[12:01] <sovieticool> :)
[12:01] <sfar> did you close every firefox windows?
[12:01] <sovieticool> yes
[12:01] <sovieticool> i close all
[12:01] <liable> PwcrLinux: ok, thats weird that killing the xserver is killing gdm. anyway, i have no idea why you cant get the big cursor to work.
[12:02] <sovieticool> i will reboot maybe will work
[12:02] <PwcrLinux> liable: should I alt ctrl backspace goes into then do sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start?
[12:02] <sovieticool> o how to see if i have sure good flash instaled ?
[12:03] <liable> PwcrLinux: what is the error when you do it from xterm?
[12:03] <Sunburn> i can ping my router and connect to the router
[12:03] <engla> Does anyone know what the problem with maxima for ppc is? It didn't work in breezy and does not in dapper either. I still have to use the version from the hoary repositories, and wxmaxima won't work with that
[12:03] <liable> PwcrLinux: anyway, its not the reason that big-cursor isnt working, its just unusaual
[12:03] <htrp> how do I downgrade xchat to 2.4 from 2.6.1?
[12:03] <liable> htrp: i told you
[12:03] <PwcrLinux> liable: * Starting GNOME Display Manager...                                     [fail] 
[12:04] <liable> PwcrLinux: hrm.
[12:05] <Sunburn> george007, i have opend ifconfig. do u know something why it won't work
[12:05] <liable> Sunburn: can you ping www.google.com?
[12:05] <htrp> liable: ?
[12:05] <RADIAN> gons
[12:05] <Sunburn> george007, mom
[12:06] <PwcrLinux> liable: let me try use alt ctrl backspace then I can run the sudo to start gdm..
[12:06] <liable> htrp: i told you how to do it already, with dpkg from your apt-cache.
[12:06] <Sunburn> george007, yes
[12:06] <George007> Sunburn, it could just be that you forgot to add the proxy in firefox or smth
[12:06] <htrp> liable: i id
[12:06] <htrp> liable: i did
[12:06] <htrp> but it doesn't show the version
[12:06] <Sunburn> i normaly dont use proxys
[12:06] <liable> htrp: what do you mean?
[12:06] <sfar> sovieticool: in firefox go to URL about:plugins
[12:07] <sfar> and at the bottom it shoud say Shockwave Flash
[12:07] <Sunburn> george007, i normaly don't use proxys
[12:07] <scarn> will version 6 support RAID?
[12:07] <George007> Sunburn, well then check firefox's settings to make sure you ahve it correctly, "connection settings"
[12:07] <htrp> ok
[12:07] <htrp> when i do sudo apt-cache search xchat
[12:08] <htrp> i get these:
[12:08] <htrp> xchat-text - IRC client for console similar to AmIRC
[12:08] <htrp> xchat - IRC client for X similar to AmIRC
[12:08] <George007> Sunburn, if u're connected through IRC, then ur ifconfig should be correct, this is why I think the problem is from the browser, but yet again I might be wrong, not much of a pro when it comes to ubuntu ;)
[12:08] <kameron> htrp, yeah.... isn't xchat what you're looking for?
[12:08] <htrp> yeah
[12:08] <liable> htrp: did you understand what i told you?
[12:08] <htrp> im trying to downgrade
[12:08] <kameron> htrp, oh.
[12:08] <htrp> im using 2.6 and i need 2.4 back
[12:09] <ompaul> htrp, which version of ubuntu are you using?
[12:09] <htrp> breezy
[12:09] <PwcrLinux> liable: can you please repeat the sudo command and i have to write down on my paper ready..
[12:10] <ompaul> htrp, how did you get 2.6? given that breezy has 2.4 by default?
[12:10] <htrp> how do you downgrade though?
[12:10] <phrizer> anyone else have problems with totem? it won't resize movies correctly.
[12:10] <liable> PwcrLinux: sud /etc/init.d/gdm start
[12:10] <liable> sudo
[12:10] <ompaul> htrp, well first we got to get rid of the other so I want to know how you got it to look at it
[12:10] <kameron> htrp, uninstall xchat, make sure you have breezy mirrors in sources.list, and reinstall it. did you try that?
[12:11] <htrp> yes, it installs the same one
[12:11] <PwcrLinux> liable: okay got it brb
[12:12] <ompaul> htrp, put your /etc/sources/apt.list in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:12] <liable> huh
[12:12] <liable> ompaul: dyslexic?? :)
[12:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[12:13] <AstralJava> Or maybe his sources just include several apt lists.... /me shrugs. :)
[12:13] <Kamping_Kaiser> htrp: try `/etc/apt/sources.list`
[12:13] <htrp> ic
[12:13] <foxpaul> any ideas why my crontab entry doesn't seem to run? i see in the log file that cron reloads at the time it is suppsed to run, but my script doesn't seem to do anything
[12:14] <PwcrLinux> liable: didn't work.. oh well
[12:14] <ompaul> liable, given I had turned away from the screen why did yoiu not say the right thing in the channel and then make the joke, much more productive
[12:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> foxpaul: script marked executable?
[12:15] <liable> PwcrLinux: starnge if it works at boot, but not afterwards. look in /var/log/gdm.log
[12:15] <ompaul> htrp, put your /etc/apt/sources.list in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:15] <ompaul> liable, and I might be
[12:15] <PwcrLinux> okay
[12:15] <liable> ompaul: no need to get snaky.
[12:16] <ompaul> liable, I am not, (A) I was not looking at the screen, (B) the user still had a problem (C) I might actually have a problem like that :-)
[12:16] <baua> how can i change the boot parameter in yaboot bootloader
[12:16] <liable> ompaul: it was meant light heartedly, and i gave you the chance to correct it, if no one else did, i would have.
[12:16] <Sulle-> hi all "again"
[12:17] <ompaul> liable, I am trying to do 2 other things at the same time :-) pressure leads to a lack of :)
[12:17] <ompaul> i.e. I left the characters out but am sitting here with a grin on my face
[12:17] <PwcrLinux> liable: didn't have a logs
[12:18] <liable> PwcrLinux: its /var/log/gdm (no .log)
[12:18] <Sulle-> !tell Sulle- about beep
[12:18] <Seveas> que?
[12:19] <Sulle-> !tekk Sulle-  about mp3
[12:19] <ubotu> Sulle-: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:19] <Sulle-> !tekk Sulle-  about games
[12:19] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Sulle-
[12:19] <freakabcd> hi all
[12:19] <Sulle-> hi freakabcd
[12:19] <Matthewv> hey Sulle- you got broken 'L' key :)
[12:19] <freakabcd> where do i get flashplugin-nonfree for flight5 ?
[12:20] <liable> Sulle-: to save us all seeing what you want to ask ubotu, you can /msg ubuto factoid
[12:20] <PwcrLinux> liable: nevermind.. I'll remove it the big cursor from the sypantic list.. I will try find one for mouse themes.
[12:20] <freakabcd> and completely up to date with todays repositories
[12:20] <Sulle-> ok sry for it.. i am kinda new :)
[12:20] <freakabcd> i can;t find it anywhere. and multiverse _is_ enabled in my repo list
[12:20] <ramvi> Heya. I changed to Ati Radeon driver (instead of fglrx), but I changed back. I rebooted, but there was a new kernel (*.20 instead of .19) and now the only ting that works is 640x480 =(
[12:20] <PwcrLinux> liable: remove or remove completely?
[12:20] <liable> Sulle-: no problem, just letting you know you can do it in query
[12:21] <ramvi> when I set the res to 1024 it's all "scrabbily"
[12:21] <liable> PwcrLinux: either
[12:21] <ramvi> What do I do?
[12:21] <PwcrLinux> okay
[12:21] <AstralJava> freakabcd: You might get better answers on channel #ubuntu+1, it's all Dapper talk only. :)
[12:21] <htrp> brb
[12:21] <Sulle-> what does factoid mean?
[12:21] <freakabcd> i'm there now :)
[12:21] <kameron> does ubuntu have the XAA ATI driver in repos, that anyone knows of?
[12:22] <ramvi> Please :(
[12:23] <BastelFrank> tach
[12:23] <Sulle-> what does factoid mean? <--- plz tell me :)
[12:23] <Sulle-> i am not so good in english
[12:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> Sulle-: bit of information
[12:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> ramvi: check what driver its currently using
[12:23] <Sulle-> okey :=)
[12:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[12:24] <ramvi> Kamping_Kaiser, should I run a command?
[12:24] <liable> Sulle-: when you type !tell Sulle- about games, "games" (the info ubunto tells you) is what we call a factoid.
[12:24] <PwcrLinux> liable: done :)
[12:24] <Sulle-> oh. ok.
[12:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> ramvi: open  up konsole and type "grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[12:25] <Sulle-> but can u all see what he is typing to me? like this
[12:25] <Kamping_Kaiser> and see what ti tells you
[12:25] <liable> Sulle-: no
[12:25] <mcbeef> hey i have little experience with ubuntu and have just installed a realtek 8169 network card , its detected but not showing up as a ethernet interface
[12:25] <PwcrLinux> Hiya Seveas
[12:25] <Sulle-> !tell Sulle-  about terminal
[12:25] <mcbeef> do i have to do something to mount it
[12:25] <mcbeef> as i installed it after installing ubuntu
[12:26] <ramvi> Kamping_Kaiser,   Driver "kbd" /n  Driver "mouse" /n  Driver "synaptics"
[12:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> ramvi: its a laptop?
[12:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> ramvi: it looks like yoru driver line isnt even there anymore
[12:28] <liable> Sulle-: just to explain a bit better, instead of typing, !tell Sulle- about terminal, you can type /msg ubuto terminal, and it will tell yopu without us seeing anything, once you have a query window open (the window where ubuto has responded) then you can just type "terminal" (or whatever you want) and it will answer in that window
[12:28] <ramvi> It's a laptop. Yeah, I've been trying to install the driver from ati.com
[12:28] <Sulle-> !tell Sulle-  about terminal
[12:28] <ramvi> Kamping_Kaiser, I guess I've screwed it even more up :p
[12:28] <Astinus> Good Morning :) I've got a Powerbook5,6 here with Airport Extreme, system is running Dapper Drake .. worked for a while with wireless, my firmware is installed correctly, but its since ceased functioning .. card is recognized, it just doesn't seem capable of sending/receiving packets. Wireless networks are either open, WEP or WPA2
[12:29] <Sulle-> liable, thnx
[12:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> ramvi: run `sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> ramvi: and follow the prompts. select "ati" not fglxrx unless you know the ati driver is installed
[12:30] <knikker>  Hi! I have to reinstall my webserver/mailserver. How to I preserve all mails and users/passwords?
[12:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> knikker: backup /var/mail or /home/$username/Maildir for maildir
[12:31] <Kamping_Kaiser> as for users passwords, i asume /etc/password or /etc/shadow and group
[12:32] <knikker> and just copy the backup back into the newly installed system? Does the mapping of the users go automaticly(for the /var/mail) ?
[12:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> i dont know. never tried
[12:32] <knikker> I use imap for all users...
[12:32] <knikker> Ok
[12:32] <Astinus> ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready
[12:32] <knikker> Thanks for the help! :-)
[12:32] <knikker> i appreciate it
[12:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> np knikker, gl
[12:33] <ramvi> Kamping_Kaiser, All done. Now I do a reboot?
[12:33] <msoul> Hello, I installed ubuntu yesterday and I can't get it to work something with the connection
[12:33] <msoul> and I wanted to select a specific modules for specific device
[12:33] <msoul> could any of you help me with that?
[12:33] <ramvi> grep Driver says Driver "ati" now
[12:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> ramvi: just `sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart` should do
[12:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> er.
[12:33] <ramvi> tnx =D
[12:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> *gdm restart
[12:33] <ramvi> Using kdm...
[12:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> msoul: what deice?
[12:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> ramvi: then kdm
[12:34] <msoul> Kamping_Kaiser: eepro100 driver
[12:34] <msoul> on terminal
[12:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> msoul: is /etc/modules what your after?
[12:36] <msoul> Kamping_Kaiser: well, all I need is to get that laptop to work
[12:36] <msoul> ide-cd ide-disk ide-geniric lp mousdev psmouse
[12:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> msoul: i haent played with modules a lot, or stuff that doesnt want to work
[12:37] <liable> msoul: does lsmod show e1000?
[12:37] <msoul> I honestly don't know why it didn't auto configure the network
[12:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> msoul: is the device detected but not used?
[12:38] <msoul> yeah
[12:38] <msoul> it receives/sent but I can't surf the net
[12:38] <Captain_Fleming> Hi
[12:38] <liable> msoul: does eth0 show in sudo ifconfig -a
[12:38] <Captain_Fleming> Some probs with my swap here...
[12:38] <liable> msoul: oh
[12:39] <Captain_Fleming> My proccontrol says that I am using 0 of 0bits of swap :-/
[12:39] <msoul> liable: no
[12:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> msoul: sure its not a dns thing?
[12:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> Captain_Fleming: what does "free" say?
[12:39] <liable> msoul: what ifaces are in there?
[12:39] <msoul> Kamping_Kaiser: yeah I'm sure
[12:39] <Captain_Fleming> It is in dutch here...
[12:40] <ramvi> Kamping_Kaiser, Thanks! Are you Norwegian?
[12:40] <msoul> liable: what do you mean?
[12:40] <Captain_Fleming> kamping_kaiser: I will translate it litterly.
[12:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> ramvi: no, i'm not
[12:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> Captain_Fleming: ok
[12:40] <liable> msoul: what does ifconfig -a show apart from lo
[12:40] <Captain_Fleming> kamping_kaiser: "Swap in use: 0 bytes of 0 bytes 0,0%"
[12:41] <msoul> liable: rx bytes, tx bytes inet6 up loopback etc
[12:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> hm. i just noticed my swaps not in use either LOL
[12:41] <liable> msoul: but lo is the only one?
[12:41] <Captain_Fleming> Kamping_kaiser: I tried "sudo mount swap" already.
[12:41] <msoul> liable: yeah
[12:41] <stu_> hey... i am on!
[12:41] <Captain_Fleming> kamping_kaiser: But he does not find swap in mtab of fstab...
[12:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> Captain_Fleming: try 'sudo swapon'
[12:41] <Captain_Fleming> stu_: Welcome.
[12:42] <George007> !ftpserver
[12:42] <ubotu> George007: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:42] <George007> !ftp
[12:42] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: vsftpd, proftpd
[12:42] <msoul> liable: is there anyway to solve this on terminal?
[12:42] <ramvi> Kamping_Kaiser, thanks anyway ;) Quick question: I see there's some options for multiple monitors in the control panel, but they're greyed out... Is there an easy way to use two monitors in linux? I think it looks a bit hard editing the xconf file...
[12:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> ramvi: there is, but its easyest with an Nvidia card(what i have), so i dont know about ati
[12:43] <stewart> ok name some great open source apps I may not have heard of
[12:43] <liable> msoul: well, if the module is loaded, then the kernel isnt registering it otherwise the card would show in ifconfig -a, whats the line from lspci for it?
[12:43] <stewart> I fancy a day of dabbling
[12:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> stewart: hurd?
[12:44] <stewart> hurd?
[12:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> ramvi: i would check teh forums if i was you
[12:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> stewart: ignore it, its a sick joke
[12:44] <stewart> is it a replacement for the kernel really?
[12:45] <msoul> liable: ethernet controller: 3Com corporation 3c556b cardbus tornado
[12:45] <stewart> RMS and Linus really arent getting on ;-)
[12:45] <liable> !hurd
[12:45] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, liable
[12:45] <patrick52222> how do i make the terminal see the desktop
[12:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> stewart: its a whole new system
[12:45] <liable> msoul: oh its pcmcia?
[12:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> patrick52222: what? are you after transparency?
[12:45] <stewart> this DRM things a really doozy of a thing
[12:45] <msoul> liable: yeah
[12:45] <Captain_Fleming> kampin_kaiser: What options should I use?? (So cryptic...).
[12:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> stewart: link?
[12:46] <patrick52222> nah make the termianl set to desktop
[12:46] <patrick52222> so i dont have to put the path in
[12:46] <liable> msoul: what kernel do you have?
[12:46] <msoul> 2.6.10-5
[12:46] <nanotube> Kamping_Kaiser: you are here as well - I thought that I'm going to ask here:-)
[12:46] <msoul> liable: 2.6.10-5
[12:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> Captain_Fleming: -a, `sudo swapon -a`
[12:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol nanotube, you cant escape me
[12:47] <patrick52222> i know its cd sumthing i dont know wat
[12:47] <liable> msoul: is 3c59x loaded in lsmod?
[12:47] <nanotube> Kamping_Kaiser: it seems that I can not:-))
[12:47] <msoul> liable: yeah
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[12:48] <stewart> http://linuxhelp.blogspot.com/2006/04/unabridged-selective-transcript-of.html
[12:48] <Captain_Fleming> kamping_kaiser: Owh... Thanks a lot!
[12:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> patrick52222: tried ~/Desktopp ?
[12:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> * -p
[12:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> Captain_Fleming: did that work?
[12:48] <liable> msoul: no idea then
[12:48] <stewart> thats richard stallmans thinking on DRM etc
[12:48] <msoul> it's so annoying though
[12:48] <stewart> a little crazy but I can see his points in places
[12:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> stewart: ta. will look later ;)
[12:49] <Captain_Fleming> kamping_kaiser: Not quite, he does not say my /dev/sda6 is correct...
[12:49] <Captain_Fleming> kamping_kaiser: Translation follows.
[12:49] <stewart> I wouldnt be supprised if gnu dont try and implement their own kernel but should be one heck of a job
[12:50] <Captain_Fleming> Kamping_Kaiser: swapon: cannot stat /dev/sda6: Unknown file or folder.
[12:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> Captain_Fleming: have you changted your partition table recently?
[12:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> stewart: well HURD/MACH will never have drm i'm willing to bet ;)
[12:50] <Captain_Fleming> Kamping_Kaiser: Not quite, I cannot, gparted crashes on startup.
[12:50] <nanotube> Kamping_Kaiser: it seems that libqt3-mt is installed -> you think taht it would be wise to force the install?
[12:50] <msoul> anyway
[12:50] <msoul> thank you guys
[12:50] <cA1mAn> hello, how to make the bar below shorter, in the middle, bigger and transparent like this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=4204&d=1133912402
[12:51] <stewart> I wonder how many people will follow RMS Vs Linus
[12:51] <msoul> Kamping_Kaiser: thanks though
[12:51] <Sulle-> Rms ?
[12:51] <liable> msoul: whats the kernel logs say? anything?
[12:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> Captain_Fleming: `sudo fdisk -l |grep swap`
[12:51] <stewart> its a holy war which is always a pain in the arse
[12:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> msoul: gl
[12:51] <cA1mAn> hello, how to make the bar below shorter, in the middle, bigger and transparent like this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=4204&d=1133912402
[12:51] <stewart> richard stallman
[12:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> Sulle-: Richard Stallman
[12:51] <nanotube> Kamping_Kaiser: it seems that skype deb depends on package wihich is already obsolete
[12:51] <Sulle-> :) ok
[12:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> cA1mAn: dont spam
[12:51] <msoul> liable: just fail when it comes to the network
[12:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> nanotube: O-0
[12:51] <msoul> Kamping_Kaiser: gl?
[12:51] <stewart> the GNU bloke with the funny beard :-)
[12:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> good luck
[12:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[12:52] <Captain_Fleming> Kamping_kaiser: I am starting Disk Amdin.
[12:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> rms++
[12:52] <msoul> :-)
[12:52] <msoul> alright
[12:52] <srecko> HELP - nautilus, gedit, gimp, eog ... crashes on try to open file (not if root, or later created account) - WHY
[12:52] <msoul> peace out
[12:52] <liable> msoul: does the card work in another box?
[12:52] <apokryphos> !stallman
[12:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> Captain_Fleming: heh.ok...
[12:52] <ubotu> founder of the free software movement, the GNU Project, and the Free Software Foundation. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_M._Stallman
[12:52] <gnomefreak> that looks like xfce in breezy
[12:52] <msoul> liable: no we're installing ubuntu on thinkpad
[12:52] <msoul> laptop
[12:52] <msoul> and it's built in card
[12:52] <liable> msoul: ok, well does it work in windows?
[12:52] <msoul> liable: yeah
[12:52] <Sulle-> annyone got anny tips for what i can install on my linux?, i am new to it so ;)  help me out here guys.. a Private message "pm" woud be nice.
[12:53] <srecko> HELP - nautilus, gedit, gimp, eog ... crashes on try to open file (not if root, or later created account) - WHY
[12:53] <liable> msoul: ok. ask linux-thinkpad mailing list
[12:53] <stewart> does anyone know if adobe have had any more rumblings towards linux?
[12:53] <cA1mAn> so again, hoping i'm not spamming:  how to make the bar below shorter, in the middle, bigger and transparent like this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=4204&d=1133912402
[12:53] <apokryphos> Sulle-: filelight, amarok, ktouch nice things to play around with/use
[12:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> srecko: run them in a terminal and see if they output any erros
[12:53] <msoul> liable: well do, thanks
[12:53] <gnomefreak> cA1mAn: that looks like xfce in breezy and it takes a bit of work to get it to look like that (cant reember how to make all windows show as transparent though
[12:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> Sulle-: what do you want to do?
[12:53] <stewart> I like inkscape for vector illustration
[12:54] <Sulle-> Kamping_Kaiser, well, i have no idea. so ehehe
[12:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> heh
[12:54] <SpaceDog> Greetings
[12:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> build-essentials :)
[12:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi
[12:54] <apokryphos> hi SpaceDog
[12:54] <Sulle-> i guess. play games, use it to..... yeah just use it, i think it is to early for me to start working on it.
[12:54] <washington> Im looking for Mydoom exploit
[12:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi apokryphos
[12:54] <George007> !ircclients
[12:54] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, George007
[12:54] <George007> !irc_clients
[12:54] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, George007
[12:54] <apokryphos> aloha
[12:55] <SpaceDog> Thisd is too weard - have not been oin an IRC channel since 97'
[12:55] <ylopez> hola
[12:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> Sulle-: have a look in apt, theres several good quake derived games
[12:55] <stewart> I like beagle and that deskbar search applet Sulle
[12:55] <apokryphos> ubotu: irc clients is <reply> IRC clients: gaim, kvirc, ksirc, irssi, konversation, xchat, kopete
[12:55] <ubotu> okay, apokryphos
[12:55] <srecko> state :: Owner of /tmp/orbit-srecko2 is not the current user - srecko2 is later created account
[12:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> SpaceDog: noth8ings changed ;)
[12:55] <Ribs> SpaceDog: #ubuntu is a very busy IRC channel ;)
[12:55] <stewart> busy is better than dead
[12:55] <Ribs> it's sometimes werid even for hardened IRCers to see a channel this busy
[12:55] <George007> apokryphos, now of one similar to mIRC?
[12:55] <Sulle-> ok thnx guys
[12:55] <apokryphos> Kamping_Kaiser: quake's available for linux now, too
[12:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> srecko: did you launch them as root?
[12:55] <stewart> where is quake?
[12:56] <George007> quakenet.org probably stewart
[12:56] <apokryphos> George007: I find KVirc can be very similar to mIRC, but mirc sucks :P
[12:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> apokryphos: 3? cool. about time ;)
[12:56] <SpaceDog> well I've just installed Ununtu for the first time, and thought I'ld check it out
[12:56] <apokryphos> not sure if it's 3, might be
[12:56] <George007> apokryphos, I want to be able to use mIRC's scripts
[12:56] <srecko> no, when I launch them as root works perfect no crashes
[12:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> srecko: you have permisisons problems
[12:56] <apokryphos> George007: it probably doesn't support them, but kvirc is scriptable/pluginable
[12:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> because you ran stuff as root
[12:56] <stewart> I've never had any luck finding the downloads
[12:56] <George007> apokryphos, I cant use mIRC's scripts on XChat, i have to learn python or whatever... I want to be able to use it's scripts!
[12:57] <stewart> I thought doom2 was supposed to be free software now?
[12:57] <washington> does anyone know where I find anithing about Mydoom exploit
[12:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> George007: wine
[12:57] <srecko> how to solved that, and why suddenly this happend, ubuntu works perfect for couple of months
[12:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> washington: wtf?
[12:57] <George007> Kamping_Kaiser, is that an IRC client or do u just like drinking? lol
[12:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> srecko: tried closing down gdm+x, then remoing all your files form /tmp and starting up gdm and x again?
[12:58] <stewart> wine is not an emulator
[12:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> George007: lets you run windows apps under linux ;)
[12:58] <George007> I see Kamping_Kaiser  and how do I get it?
[12:58] <valentinos> hello
[12:58] <apokryphos> George007: well, kvirc has a very easy script interface. Certainly doesn't require knowledge of any programming language.
[12:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> valentinos: hi
[12:59] <stewart> apt-get or synaptic George007
[12:59] <srecko> please can you explain steps
[12:59] <George007> alright apokryphos I'll try kvirc
[12:59] <patrick52222> how do i run a .rpm package in ubuntu
[12:59] <George007> sudo apt-get install kvirc ?
[01:00] <gnomefreak> patrick52222: alien but i would look for a deb
[01:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> patrick52222: with alien, but why not use a deb?
[01:00] <stewart> I dont think you can run .rpms in ubu
[01:00] <gnomefreak> !alien
[01:00] <ubotu> alien is probably a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Its use is discouraged, as it could create serious problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/
[01:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi gnomefreak
[01:00] <patrick52222> there int a deb for cedega
[01:00] <gnomefreak> hi Kamping_Kaiser  ;)
[01:00] <George007> apokryphos, is that how I get kvirc? sudo apt-get install kvirc?
[01:00] <patrick52222> im subscriber
[01:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> patrick52222: yes there is
[01:00] <stewart> yeah I wouldnt use a package conversion util
[01:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[01:00] <gnomefreak> !cedega
[01:00] <sovieticool> please help me .. i have a 5.1 sistem ..and the center and the subwoor don't work :((
[01:00] <patrick52222> is ther
[01:00] <apokryphos> !info kvirc
[01:00] <gnomefreak> !+cedega
[01:00] <ubotu> (formerly WineX) TransGaming Technologies' proprietary fork of Wine, for running games written for Microsoft Windows under Linux by providing a DirectX API. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega and for a list of working games see http://www.transgaming.org/gamesdb or #cedega or http://www.frankscorner.org/ note: the 5.1.2 release notes mention a copy protection bug with kernels 2.6.9 and 2.6.10, fixed in 2.6.11
[01:00] <ubotu> kvirc: (Fully scriptable graphical IRC client with plugin support), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 2:2.1.3.1-2ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 1365 kB, Installed size: 4064 kB
[01:01] <apokryphos> George007: are you on breezy?
[01:01] <George007> I think so
[01:01] <apokryphos> George007: I'd install kvirc 3.2, 2.1 is dated
[01:01] <George007> apokryphos, where from? apt-get install kvirc?
[01:01] <stewart> thats one thing about ubu it needs to be more obvious to the end user which version they are running
[01:02] <apokryphos> George007: nope, the version in the repos is 2.1 -- old. Let me check if there's a deb for 3.2
[01:02] <srecko> how to close gdm and x
[01:02] <gnomefreak> stewart: it is if you look in about ubuntu
[01:02] <sovieticool> please help me .. i have a 5.1 genius sistem ..and the center and the subwoofer don't work :((
[01:02] <apokryphos> srecko: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[01:02] <sovieticool> is a plugin or somethinf for xmms
[01:02] <stewart> I did a dist upgrade and the about ubuntu hadnt updated
[01:02] <sovieticool> ?
[01:02] <gnomefreak> stewart: are you on dapper now?
[01:02] <apokryphos> sovieticool: xmms sucks
[01:03] <sovieticool> :)
[01:03] <stewart> yeah dapper clean install
[01:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> apokryphos:  :o
[01:03] <sovieticool> what do your recomand ?
[01:03] <gnomefreak> stewart: that could be the reason
[01:03] <gnomefreak> !version
[01:03] <ubotu> To find out what ubuntu version you have type 'lsb_release -a' or 'cat /etc/issue' in a terminal.
[01:03] <apokryphos> sovieticool: any other... i.e.
[01:03] <apokryphos> !players
[01:03] <ubotu> somebody said players was Audio/MP3 Players: amaroK, Banshee, Beep-media-player, JuK, Rhythmbox, XMMS ; Video players: Totem, Xine, Mplayer, VLC
[01:03] <apokryphos> sovieticool: amarok is the most popular
[01:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> gnomefreak: or open firefox ;)
[01:03] <oga> i'm looking to browse my firefox cache for a pic i saw online yesterday... does firefox cache all images if so where can i look for it
[01:03] <gnomefreak> stewart: dappers docs wont be done til release
[01:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> or the help...
[01:04] <gnomefreak> Kamping_Kaiser: that would be too easy ;)
[01:04] <stewart> it wasnt dapper that I was talking about
[01:04] <sovieticool> can instal amarok whit synamptic >?
[01:04] <George007> apokryphos, anything found?
[01:04] <George007> found anything*
[01:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> oga: ~/.mozilla/firefox/somewhere
[01:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> gnomefreak: ;)
[01:04] <gnomefreak> stewart: breezy has it in about ubuntu
[01:04] <apokryphos> George007: ok, there's debs for debian. If you're not confident with compiling I recommend trying that -- n=10373019@84.228.81.147] 
[01:04] <liable> oga: yeah, look in your home dir .mozilla
[01:04] <apokryphos> George007: err... http://www.kvirc.de/?id=releases&platform=unix&version=3.2.0&group=debian I mean
[01:05] <stewart> yes I know and as I say I dist upgraded to breezy and it didnt update the docs
[01:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> stewart: do you have the ubuntu-desktop package installed?
[01:05] <stewart> still maybe its all cool these days
[01:05] <srecko> how to stop x?
[01:05] <stewart> Kamp yes that was the solution
[01:05] <apokryphos> srecko: I told you -- sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[01:05] <stewart> but thats not the point Im making
[01:05] <srecko> sorry i didn't saw
[01:06] <srecko> sorry i didn't see
[01:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> ok ;)
[01:06] <apokryphos> George007: you'll need to download+install the core and the data deb
[01:06] <oga> liable , Kamping_Kaiser : I think i found it.... looks encrypted
[01:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> apokryphos: does that stop x as well?
[01:06] <apokryphos> Kamping_Kaiser: of course; X runs through gdm :)
[01:06] <srecko> what is command to delete files in shell
[01:06] <stewart> Im saying for the average user being able to tell an admin what exactversion he is on would be very handy
[01:06] <apokryphos> Kamping_Kaiser: unless he started with kdm or startx
[01:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> oga: nah, just the dir has a random name
[01:06] <apokryphos> srecko: rm
[01:06] <George007> apokryphos, Ima need help doing all that, seeing as am a n00b when it comes to ubuntu
[01:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> apokryphos: hm. ok
[01:06] <gnomefreak> srecko: rm -r    please becarefull
[01:06] <George007> apokryphos, those mirrors dont work
[01:07] <oga> Kamping_Kaiser : I went int /firefox/1234234/Cache/
[01:07] <srecko> I need to remove everything from tmp dir
[01:07] <stewart> we dont have n00bs in linux
[01:07] <stewart> we have recruits
[01:07] <apokryphos> George007: wget ftp://ftp.kvirc.net/pub/kvirc/3.2.0/binary/debian/kvirc_3.2.0-sarge2_i386.deb && wget ftp://ftp.kvirc.net/pub/kvirc/3.2.0/binary/debian/kvirc-data_3.2.0-sarge2_all.deb && sudo dpkg -i kvirc*.deb
[01:07] <dkg> hi!
[01:07] <oga> that's filled with random data / filenames
[01:07] <George007> hehe ty stewart =)
[01:07] <dkg> i have troubles with cron.
[01:07] <liable> stewart: yes comrade.
[01:07] <dkg> i want a programm run as root.
[01:07] <dkg> but it seems to run without root privs via cron.
[01:07] <apokryphos> !kdesu
[01:07] <ubotu> Use kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions and the config files.   If it is not working, you may need to run "sudo adept-updater"
[01:08] <apokryphos> dkg: or in gnome use gdksudo GUIAPP
[01:08] <dkg> NO!
[01:08] <George007> apokryphos, No such file `kvirc_3.2.0-sarge2_i386.deb'.
[01:08] <dkg> apokryphos: it's about cron.
[01:08] <dkg> apokryphos: and I use sudo.
[01:08] <apokryphos> dkg: that's fine, then.
[01:08] <srecko> ubotu: that's why I didi and now I have BIG problems
[01:08] <ubotu> srecko: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:08] <srecko> ubotu: that's what I did and now I have BIG problems
[01:08] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, srecko
[01:09] <George007> apokryphos, those 2 ftps dont have the file...
[01:09] <gnomefreak> srecko: why are you talking to a bot?
[01:09] <apokryphos> dkg: you'll either have to have a passwordless sudo, or you'll have to set it up to accept given apps to be run as root passwordless (which I can't really explain)
[01:09] <srecko> I need adress he is showing :)
[01:09] <Captain_Fleming> kamping_kaiser: Could you please say again what you last said to me?
[01:09] <apokryphos> George007: try another mirror then
[01:09] <stewart> hey bots have feelings too
[01:09] <gnomefreak> srecko: if you ask the room we are alot more helpfull than the not. what address?
[01:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> er. Captain_Fleming have to wait a mintute ;)
[01:10] <apokryphos> srecko: ubotu is a bot :)
[01:10] <gnomefreak> s/not/bot
[01:10] <Captain_Fleming> kamping_kaiser: Sorry, my PC crashed under the weight... (:-$)
[01:10] <George007> apokryphos, I tried many mirrors
[01:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> (20:21:12) Kamping_Kaiser: Captain_Fleming: `sudo fdisk -l |grep swap`
[01:10] <apokryphos> George007: New York one works fine
[01:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> ?
[01:11] <Captain_Fleming> kamping_kaiser: Thanks
[01:11] <srecko> I'll try firstly what Kamping said
[01:11] <George007> yeah apokryphos downloading it through New York's thing, .deb btw
[01:11] <sovieticool> how to make a buzz whit gaim ??
[01:11] <Captain_Fleming> kamping_kaiser: OK, it is /dev/sda5 and not /dev/sda6... How do I change that.?
[01:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> Captain_Fleming: `sudo nano /etc/fstab`, and change the 'swap' line
[01:12] <George007> apokryphos, _all.deb downloading as well!!
[01:12] <rixth> I'm willing to pay someone to code me a simple thing: I need a script that runs on startup that will start a command lime bittorrent client downloading a pre-specified torrent file.
[01:12] <George007> apokryphos, anything else needed to dl?
[01:12] <Captain_Fleming> Kamping_kaiser: Simply in fstab??? :-D LOL; thanks.
[01:13] <Kamping_Kaiser> :D
[01:13] <rixth> I am going away on vacation for 3 weeks and this torrent is 12GB. So if the power goes out, I need the torrent to start up again
[01:13] <apokryphos> George007: just the core deb and the data one
[01:13] <George007> alright apokryphos!!
[01:13] <_kalm> hello... could anyone tell me a good network management tool?? for xfce stuff
[01:13] <dkg> but I setup the cronjob for root itself
[01:13] <Kamping_Kaiser> rixth: it should be a 1 liner, depending on what your app is
[01:13] <RemyLaptop> hey guys, I just did the latest lot of upgrades that were available, and now the system tray has dissapeared!
[01:13] <RemyLaptop> I'm running dapper :P
[01:13] <RemyLaptop> !bug
[01:13] <Captain_Fleming> Kamping_Kaiser: Thank you very much, less crashes now I hope :-)
[01:13] <ubotu> bugs are reported to https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs
[01:14] <rixth> Kamping_Kaiser, no, it needs to work without any human intervention. There will not be someone around to log into X
[01:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> Captain_Fleming: good luck :)
[01:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> rixth: sure, i understand tha :)
[01:14] <srecko> One more question if I do "rm -r /tmp/ " it will delete all contents AND tmp dir
[01:14] <rixth> Oooh, how dd I do that?
[01:14] <liable> rixth: work out the bittorent commandline option, make a shell script with the line in it, and put it in rc2.d and namme it S99Bittorrent
[01:14] <ompaul> rixth, so first off the box needs to reboot automagically then you need a on boot run the file
[01:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> srecko: yeh, it will
[01:15] <srecko> is it possible to remove ONLY content of dir
[01:15] <srecko> NOT dir
[01:15] <rixth> Yes, the box does reboot after a powerloss. and thanks, liable
[01:16] <apokryphos> srecko: sudo rm -rf /tmp/*
[01:16] <apokryphos> srecko: deleting /tmp can cause problems, but at least you're not in X now, right?
[01:16] <liable> rixth: but you want to make sure it starts as a user too, so look that up, in rc2.d it will start as root.
[01:16] <srecko> yep
[01:16] <Cicero_> hi all
[01:16] <liable> rixth: prolly a simple su would do.
[01:16] <apokryphos> srecko: * is a wildcard in UNIX. So the above literally means "everything under /tmp/"
[01:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> srecko: just delete stuff in /tmp/*$username*
[01:17] <rixth> liable, big security risk running BT as root
[01:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi Cicero_
[01:17] <rixth> ?
[01:17] <Cicero_> hi Kamping_Kaiser
[01:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> rixth: i dont recomend it
[01:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> try crons @reboot option
[01:17] <liable> rixth: you dont want to do it. i have no ideas if there are exploits, but its definately not a good idea
[01:17] <srecko> Kamping_Kaiser: mean only stuff with user I have problems
[01:18] <srecko> Kamping_Kaiser: mean only stuff with user I have problems?
[01:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> srecko: $username is the user with issues
[01:18] <George007> apokryphos, I got errors
[01:18] <srecko> Kamping_Kaiser: tnx I'll give it a try
[01:18] <apokryphos> George007: pastebin them
[01:18] <rixth> This 12gb torrent has 3000 seeders and 51,000 leechers.
[01:18] <srecko> Kamping_Kaiser: what is command to delete file?
[01:18] <George007> will do apokryphos
[01:18] <apokryphos> rixth: what is it?
[01:18] <liable> rixth: wtf is it?
[01:18] <stewart> can anyone suggest good email solutions for small business?
[01:19] <rixth> apokryphos, DVD rips of Futurama seasons 1-5
[01:19] <apokryphos> kontact :D
[01:19] <George007> apokryphos, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11583
[01:19] <stewart> I want to build a linux box with everything a small biz might need
[01:19] <rixth> http://www.mininova.org/tor/197730
[01:19] <apokryphos> stewart: suse's small business suite is meant to be *very* good for that
[01:19] <stewart> is it free?
[01:20] <George007> I think it is stewart!
[01:20] <apokryphos> stewart: not sure, but it is if it's part of opensuse project. http://www.novell.com/products/linuxsmallbiz/
[01:20] <George007> apokryphos, did u get my pastebin?
[01:21] <gnomefreak> George007: post the link to it in channel ;)
[01:21] <liable> !wwer
[01:21] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, liable
[01:21] <RemyLaptop> !paste
[01:21] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[01:21] <apokryphos> George007: yes, you need to install kde to get kvirc working. =)
[01:21] <George007> I did gnomefreak =)
[01:21] <malv_> how would you perform ls -all | grep and get only hidden files in home
[01:21] <George007> lol apokryphos =/ guess it doesn't work on gnome/
[01:22] <apokryphos> George007: would work fine on gnome
[01:22] <gnomefreak> George007: sorry not really in this channel right now
[01:22] <George007> gnomefreak, it's okay
[01:22] <apokryphos> George007: but note that I'd consider kvirc more suitable for IRC experts, or so. It's very customizable, and might not have great defaults.
[01:22] <George007> apokryphos, what do I do then?
[01:22] <stewart> its not free
[01:22] <stewart> and novells website is shonky
[01:23] <liable> !best irc client
[01:23] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, liable
[01:23] <George007> apokryphos, I need my mIRC scripts to work =/
[01:23] <xerophyte> i have upgrade to drapper and i lost the display setting in the kcontrol ? does anybody know what am i missing
[01:23] <liable> ubotu: stupid bot
[01:23] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, liable
[01:23] <void^> !info irssi
[01:23] <void^> :(
[01:23] <liable> gah, what the hell happened to all the factoids..
[01:23] <apokryphos> George007: they almost certainly won't work in kvirc, as I said
[01:23] <stewart> gnome xerophyte (sorry couldnt resist)
[01:23] <George007> apokryphos, but u said they are close to it?
[01:24] <Captain_Fleming> !irc
[01:24] <ubotu> from memory, irc is info on irc at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Relay_Chat, or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InternetRelayChat
[01:24] <loply> Hi folks
[01:24] <loply> Ive just installed Ubuntu on an Asrock mobo with onboard nForce graphics, and the X server wont start (No devices detected)... I installed the Nvidia-GLX package using apt-get and it still doesnt start, do I need to reconfigure something?
[01:24] <apokryphos> George007: yup, but plugins certainly won't work for it. It's a different program.
[01:24] <valentinos> George007, i thing wine will make your mirc and your scripts to work, but you gain nothing. why not use an eggdrop attached to a psy  like i did when i was much younger ;)
[01:24] <George007> apokryphos, I dont want plugins!
[01:25] <apokryphos> loply: try a sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:25] <apokryphos> George007: s/plugins/scripts/
[01:25] <void^> George007: what do you need mirc scripts for?
[01:25] <George007> valentinos, because I donno about them lol, and I have no clue how to work with python
[01:25] <George007> void^, a game I play online
[01:26] <apokryphos> Steil: hm, indeed. But it looks very cheap :P
[01:26] <Sulle-> George007, can u pm me url for that game ?
[01:26] <void^> all sorts of common scripts are available for pretty much any client.. just random crap and custom weird things may be difficult :p
[01:26] <rixth> liable, Kamping_Kaiser ok, the command I need to run is 'rtorrent  -d /home/rixth/ftTorrent/ -p 9000-9010 -s /home/rixth/btSession'. Does it matter that rtorrent is not a daemon, but a ncurses application?
[01:26] <George007> Sulle-, http://games.swirve.com/utopia/
[01:26] <benny> is there a german channel? (my english is quit terrible) ^^
[01:26] <bimberi> !de
[01:26] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de
[01:26] <vge> shoud i compile "VESA VGA graphics support" into my kernel?
[01:26] <benny> ouh... thx a lot
[01:27] <bimberi> benny: yw :)
[01:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> rixth: as long a it starts when you load it, no
[01:27] <George007> void^, do u know hwo to make this script: !slap <nick> that does: /me (action) slaps <nick> around a bit with a large trout! ?
[01:29] <ReD_BuLLeT> !ati
[01:29] <ubotu> [ati]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[01:31] <xorian`> !nl
[01:31] <ubotu> Op #ubuntu-nl staat de koffie al voor je klaar.
[01:31] <stamen81> hello
[01:32] <liable> rixth: put it in a script (dont forget to su rixth) and try it.
[01:32] <srecko> I have still Problems
[01:32] <rixth> Will do.
[01:32] <stamen81> could anybody tell me a program for chat and video calls that works on linux and windows
[01:32] <stamen81> skype don't have a version with video for linux
[01:32] <apokryphos> stamen81: kopete with msn messenger on windoze?
[01:33] <xorian`> hey, I just installed Ubuntu on a VMware workstation, it's my first time using linux .. I'm now trying to install VMware Tools, but it complains I'm not a super user.. is the login you supply at the installation not meant for a super user then?
[01:33] <apokryphos> stamen81: or netmeeting
[01:33] <stamen81> I dont like netmeeting
[01:33] <stamen81> I will try kopete
[01:33] <vge> shoud i compile "VESA VGA graphics support" into my kernel?
[01:33] <stamen81> does it work well
[01:33] <apokryphos> stamen81: actually kopete doesn't support chat yet, as I recall. Though you can talk through another program and then view them on kopete
[01:33] <rixth> liable, what if I wanted to use a graphical client, like, say, azureus?
[01:33] <stamen81>  with video
[01:33] <rixth> WouldI be out of luck?
[01:33] <stamen81> and does it support talk and video on the same time
[01:33] <srecko> Nautilus, gedit still crashes when I'm loged as user srecko, but on other users it is ok, any solutions
[01:34] <apokryphos> stamen81: nope, I think it only supports video.
[01:34] <stamen81> and chat
[01:34] <liable> rixth: then you could prolly do it from autostart in gnome (or whatever it uses)
[01:34] <apokryphos> stamen81: as I said, it doesn't yet.
[01:34] <patrick52222> how do i get in the xorg file to see wat the graphic devise is set to
[01:34] <stamen81> apokryphos, caht and video?
[01:34] <rixth> liable, but wouldn't a user have to be logged in?
[01:34] <stamen81> apokryphos, ok
[01:35] <stamen81> other program that support it
[01:35] <stamen81> some ideas?
[01:35] <liable> rixth: thats what i was just going to mention :) but you can get gdm to auto login if you really want. but easier just to do it from an init script
[01:35] <apokryphos> stamen81: chat you can do through skype though
[01:35] <stamen81> yes
[01:35] <stamen81> but I want to combine talk and video
[01:35] <stamen81> like skype
[01:36] <rixth> liable, is there any way to run a X-application is X is started (at the GDM login screen) but a user is not logged in?
[01:36] <srecko> Nautilus, gedit still crashes when I'm loged as user srecko, but on other accounts it is ok --- any solutions??
[01:36] <vge> anyone? shoud i compile "VESA VGA graphics support" into my kernel?
[01:36] <rixth> if, rather
[01:36] <Captain_Fleming> vge: Do you need it?
[01:36] <liable> rixth: not that i know of.
[01:37] <vge> Captain_Fleming:  well atm i get black screen from GRUB to KDE start
[01:37] <Captain_Fleming> vge: Explain that a bit clear please?
[01:37] <srecko> Nautilus, gedit still crashes when I'm loged as user srecko, but on other accounts it is ok --- any solutions -- maybe sometnig with keyrings ??
[01:37] <George007> how do I get wine? sudo apt-get install wine ?
[01:38] <George007> !wine
[01:38] <Putiikki> maybe something with framebuffer?
[01:38] <Captain_Fleming> vge: Could you place your list of grub on pastebin...?
[01:38] <vge> sure
[01:38] <Putiikki> George007: that's the way
[01:38] <George007> alright Putiikki thx
[01:38] <darkhorizon> gmorning, all
[01:39] <srecko> Nautilus, gedit still crashes when I'm loged as user srecko, but on other accounts it is ok --- any solutions -- maybe sometnig with keyrings ??
[01:40] <stewart> windows can run on mac but not OSX  on a PC thats illegal
[01:40] <stewart> well ubuntu can run on all of em
[01:41] <vge> Captain_Fleming: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11588
[01:41] <darkhorizon> stewart: i'm sure it'll get there
[01:41] <darkhorizon> os x is still evolving
[01:41] <Captain_Fleming> srecko: Try login in as another user, and copy-paste all that is in /home/$user
[01:41] <tonyyarusso> darkhorizon: So is everything but Windows :)
[01:41] <stewart> its not about evolution its about apple hiding behind the dodgy DMCA law
[01:41] <darkhorizon> if anything that will be their downfall
[01:42] <vge> Captain_Fleming: basically 2.6.12-10-386 works fine with bootsplash screen, but 2.6.17 loads without bootsplash screen
[01:42] <xerophyte> how can i get gaim2 on the drapper ??
[01:42] <Captain_Fleming> vge: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11589
[01:43] <darkhorizon> oh, anyone have problems with unbootable dapper cds? i burnt one last night, one of my pc's boots off it, the other does not
[01:43] <srecko> Captain_Fleming: copy form new user to old user ?? Mean that?
[01:43] <darkhorizon> bios is set up fine etc
[01:43] <srecko> Captain_Fleming: or vica versa?
[01:43] <Captain_Fleming> srecko: From something to srecko
[01:43] <srecko> Captain_Fleming: ok
[01:44] <Captain_Fleming> srecko: More specific the hidden files.
[01:44] <Captain_Fleming> srecko: AND/OR the hidden folders, that imply the subject you like to work fine.
[01:44] <Captain_Fleming> vge: Uhm, well, never knew that there is a 2.6.17 :-/
[01:45] <ReD_BuLLeT> please tell me how can i stop X
[01:45] <srecko> Captain_Fleming: I think that U solved this MAN, I'm promoting you to general :))
[01:45] <liable> ReD_BuLLeT: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[01:46] <vge> Captain_Fleming: thats not what i ment, i see the grub menu when i press ESC, but after 2.6.17-rc1 starts to load screen becomes black and next thing i see is KDE starting? i dont see "what is beeing loading"?
[01:46] <Captain_Fleming> vge: Possibly you should add "ro quiet splash" with it.
[01:46] <Captain_Fleming> vge: sorry, I understood you wrong there, but this time it is good :-)
[01:46] <vge> ic
[01:46] <Captain_Fleming> vge: That splash part is very important... (logicaly).
[01:46] <LeeJunFan> vge: actually remove quiet and splash from grub menu.lst
[01:46] <Captain_Fleming> srecko: Thank you.
[01:47] <Captain_Fleming> LeeJunFan: Why would you do that????
[01:47] <LeeJunFan> Captain_Fleming: it's a vanilla kernel right? ubuntu doesn't have a released 2.6.17
[01:47] <vge> LeeJunFan: yes, it's vanilla
[01:48] <Captain_Fleming> LeeJunFan: Yes, it has not, but still, that might solve it (or, well, with vanilla...).
[01:48] <LeeJunFan> vge: splash won't work with vanilla.
[01:48] <Captain_Fleming> LeeJunFan: I only know that it is not there...
[01:48] <Captain_Fleming> LeeJunFan: OK, did not know that one :-)
[01:48] <Gabriel> est-ce qu'il y quelqu'un qui parle franais?
[01:49] <LeeJunFan> when I use my vanilla kern's I remove the quiet and splash to see the standard old bootup messages.
[01:49] <gnomefreak> !fr
[01:49] <tonyyarusso> !fr
[01:49] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:49] <vge> LeeJunFan: icic, ill try that one
[01:49] <srecko> I got some warning in terminal when start gedit ---> (gedit:9639): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[01:49] <srecko> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[01:49] <darkhorizon> un peut, mais il y a d'autre channeaux pour les francophones ;)
[01:49] <darkhorizon> err canals
[01:50] <gnomefreak> srecko: did you use sudo or gksudo?
[01:50] <srecko> nope
[01:50] <Sulle-> !tell Sulle- about mouse
[01:50] <gnomefreak> srecko: what did you use?
[01:50] <RemyLaptop> !
[01:50] <ubotu> RemyLaptop: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:51] <gnomefreak> wb RemyLaptop
[01:51] <vge> LeeJunFan: kernel  /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-rc1-vege9 root=/dev/hda1 ro quiet splash   <-- soo i shoud remove "ro quiet splash" from there?
[01:51] <Sulle-> whats up ppl ?
[01:51] <srecko> just type gedit and name of the file I want to create
[01:51] <Captain_Fleming> vge: not ro.
[01:51] <elvstone> hm. i'm trying to try out Xgl on dapper 6.04 on amd64.. has anyone got it working?
[01:51] <LeeJunFan> vge: right, not ro.
[01:51] <Sulle-> would u guys recomend me to buy a laptop without operating system, then i can install ubuntu on it ?
[01:51] <Sulle-> or use windows on it ?
[01:51] <elvstone> do i need to follow http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=133427 ? or can is everything i need in repos?
[01:51] <vge> LeeJunFan: only "quiet splash"?
[01:51] <gnomefreak> srecko: it doesnt work that way afaik open gedit either from menu or from terminal than file>new than name it
[01:51] <LeeJunFan> vge: correct
[01:52] <Captain_Fleming> hehe, a mistake I used to make: forgetting to put my /dev/sda1 as root :-P
[01:52] <vge> ty
[01:52] <elvstone> and what about the install and then remove thingie in that howto? do i really need to do that?
[01:52] <ReD_BuLLeT> please tell me again how to stop X sorry i can't write to paper
[01:52] <srecko> gnomefreak: ok, did not know
[01:53] <Sulle-> where can i buy a cheep laptop "i am going to use linux on it "?
[01:53] <Sulle-> plz pm
[01:53] <liable> ReD_BuLLeT: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[01:53] <tonyyarusso> Sulle-: If you can find an OS-less one, that would be great.  (I'm planning to try to pressure my manufacturer into offering that.)
[01:53] <Captain_Fleming> ReD_Bullet: CRTL+ALT+BACKSPACE
[01:53] <Sulle-> tonyyarusso,  :) u got a tip where ican get cheap latop ?
[01:53] <tommi^> Hi. I'm gettin permission denied error on crontab -e. Where are the actual crontabs stored?
[01:53] <ReD_BuLLeT> 10q very much
[01:53] <elvstone> should the instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto be enough for Xgl on dapper/amd64 with nvidia driver?
[01:54] <tonyyarusso> Sulle-: Not personally.  I've run across that kind of thing through Google wanderings before, but don't have any of the URLs handy.
[01:54] <Sulle-> ok, but thnx for the help . :=)
[01:54] <tonyyarusso> elvstone: You should try asking that in #ubuntu-xgl - should get a better chance of an answer on that topic there.
[01:54] <elvstone> tonyyarusso: oh. i c. thanks.
[01:57] <RemyLaptop> !alacarte
[01:57] <ubotu> Alacarte Menu Editor is an easy-to-use menu editor for GNOME. Older versions were called smeg. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/alacarte/
[01:57] <Sulle-> annyone got anny greate tips for games that i can play on linux ?
[01:57] <Sulle-> that is popular and good ? :=)
[01:57] <Sulle-> pm plz
[01:57] <Captain_Fleming> Sulle-: Cube
[01:58] <Captain_Fleming> Sulle-: the battle for wesnoth, (X)Nethack (SP).
[01:59] <Sulle-> where can i get those games ?
[01:59] <Captain_Fleming> Sulle-: Try sudo apt-get install...
[01:59] <liable> neverball is ok
[02:00] <Sulle-> apt-get install the battle for wesnoth (x)Nethack (sp) <<--- like that?
[02:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> Sulle-: bzflag, and tron :)
[02:00] <Captain_Fleming> Lol.
[02:00] <darkhorizon> sulle... try `apt-cache search nethack`
[02:00] <Captain_Fleming> Sulle-: What distro are u using?
[02:00] <Sulle-> i have no idea.
[02:00] <Sulle-> ubuntu. 5.10
[02:01] <RemyLaptop> hi guys, I need to get the "system tray" back on the top panel, anyone know how to do that ?
[02:01] <RemyLaptop> The bit where icons appear such as xchat and skype
[02:01] <RemyLaptop> it used to be there, but now it's gone :(
[02:01] <Captain_Fleming> Sulle-: Than the battle for wesnoth is there already, as is nethack.
[02:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> RemyLaptop: right clikc and "add to panel"
[02:01] <_jason> RemyLaptop: right click > add to panel > notification area
[02:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> its in there
[02:02] <Darky> hi all
[02:02] <Sulle-> i cant find nethack
[02:02] <Captain_Fleming> Sulle-: http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2002/10/10/cube3d.html
[02:02] <_jason> !info nethack
[02:02] <ubotu> nethack: (Overhead dungeon-crawler game (dummy package)), section universe/games, is optional. Version: 3.4.3-7ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 17 kB, Installed size: 48 kB
[02:02] <Captain_Fleming> Sulle-: console: nethack.
[02:02] <_jason> Sulle-: have you enabled universe?
[02:02] <Sulle-> dont think so
[02:02] <Darky> how can i check my sound card?
[02:02] <_jason> ubotu: tell Sulle- about universe
[02:03] <RemyLaptop> thanks _jason and Kamping_Kaiser
[02:03] <RemyLaptop> :)
[02:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> RemyLaptop: have fun :)
[02:03] <Darky> how can i check my sound card?
[02:03] <ACSpike>  /dev/tcp doesn't seem to work/exist on breezy. Can someone tell me the reasons behind this or point me to the information?
[02:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> Darky check it?
[02:04] <Darky> yap tp see what i'v got....
[02:04] <Sulle-> !tell Sulle-  about nethack
[02:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> lspci
[02:05] <Captain_Fleming> !tell Sulle- about cube
[02:05] <Darky> to see what soundcard i have....
[02:05] <Captain_Fleming> He does not know "cube" /
[02:06] <_jason> Darky: lspci
[02:07] <Darky> ok tnx
[02:07] <Darky> i found it....
[02:09] <ubuntuneil> can the totem player handle avi files?
[02:09] <_jason> ubuntuneil: yes
[02:09] <ReD_BuLLeT> tell me where i can set tv-out options for TV
[02:09] <_jason> ubotu: tell ubuntuneil about multimedia
[02:10] <mlask> hi there. my question: how can I turn offthat awfule, black-and-white, dotted patter that is shown for about 1 second after starting xserver? when i used xfree86, i have tried many tools like xsetroot, but the didn't solve my problem. finally i found some instructions, how to edit xfree86-server binary file to have only black background, however, it doesnt work with new server (xorg). My question is: what are those numbers i have to change in 
[02:10] <ubuntuneil> it seems that it can open the file but theres no display
[02:10] <ReD_BuLLeT> tell me where i can set tv-out options for TV please
[02:10] <ubuntuneil> it seems that it can open the file but theres no display
[02:10] <_jason> mlask: you got cut off at ``i have to change in''
[02:10] <Seveas> @config channel plugins.bantracker.enabled
[02:10] <Ubugtu> True
[02:10] <Gabriel> est-ce que quelqu'un parle franais?
[02:10] <_jason> ubuntuneil: check your private messages from ubotu
[02:11] <_jason> !fr
[02:11] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[02:11] <Gabriel> Help me please lol
[02:11] <_jason> Gabriel: if you join #ubuntu-fr, you can get help in french
[02:12] <mlask> My question is: what are those numbers i have to change in binary file to get blac background? Where should i look for them? google and #xorg didn't help me :(
[02:12] <vge> hmm, how can i see what went on past the boot, log or something?
[02:13] <Captain_Fleming> vge: What do you mean?
[02:13] <coffeegrindah> anyone good with webcams
[02:13] <vge> well there were some errors now, but i cant see em or write em down fast enough, and pause button dont seem to work
[02:14] <vge> so does those messages get logged in somewhere?
[02:14] <liable> vge: if you are still on vt1 shift + pgup
[02:14] <liable> vge: during boot you can stop and start with crtl + s and ctrl +q
[02:14] <mlask> how is that awful pattern cald, anyway? i don't know even, what should i type in google
[02:14] <vge> liable: ic
[02:15] <mlask> cold(?)
[02:15] <mlask> called :)
[02:16] <vge> well, bigger problem is that i cant get into irc with that new kernel build, internet works fine and other messaging services, but IRC hangs after "[15:10]  [Notice]  -- *** No identd (auth) response"?
[02:17] <liable> vge: keep trying /reconnect
[02:17] <darkhorizon> mlask, do you mean something like HTML codes for color?
[02:17] <darkhorizon> like so? http://html-color-codes.com/
[02:17] <vge> liable: well it has done that for quite a while now
[02:17] <Seveas> !help
[02:18] <Seveas> vge, apt-get install pidentd
[02:20] <k31th> Hello all
[02:20] <dawid> hey, i installed tilda and added it to the startup script (i think sesson.x) now i cant get into gnome without failsafe..
[02:21] <anurag> k31th: hello
[02:22] <_jason> dawid: edit ~/.gnome2/session-manual and stop tilda from starting up, then figure out what's going on
[02:24] <dawid> _jason, I have all those folders but not the file session-manual, it doesn't auto complet and if i open it up it is empty?
[02:24] <_jason> dawid: hrmm I was assuming you use system > preferences > sessions
[02:24] <dawid> oh, no i did it some custom thing... hehe (stupid me) i remember it had x in it, so it starts before gnome2
[02:25] <dawid> and the problem is it seems gnome waits for it to finish before loading up
[02:25] <_jason> dawid: hrmm I see, why don't you remove it from there and use session startup?
[02:26] <dawid> _jason, problem is i don't know where there is!
[02:26] <_jason> dawid: hehe, no clue?  we can always do a grep for tilde
[02:26] <dawid> grep? what is that
[02:27] <_jason> dawid: it searches the contents of files for a term
[02:27] <dawid> cool how how how?
[02:27] <RemyLaptop> !paste
[02:27] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[02:27] <_jason> dawid: well if you want to search all of your home directory, we can start with: grep tilda ~
[02:28] <dawid> that aught to do it grep -i 'tilda'
[02:28] <_jason> dawid: that won't recurse into folders, for that you would use -R
[02:28] <_jason> dawid: true
[02:28] <_jason> dawid: why did you ask what is grep and know about -i :P
[02:29] <dawid> i did a quick grep --help
[02:29] <_jason> ah
[02:29] <dawid> I may be new to nix but i sure know about shell (dos, hehe long live windows 95)
[02:29] <eugman> Any suggestions on which of the terminal based web browsers to use?
[02:29] <_jason> eugman: links2
[02:30] <bluey> whats the best way to determine the file locations of files installed by apt-get install ?
[02:30] <_jason> bluey: dpkg -L packagename
[02:31] <bluey> _jason: ok, thanks
[02:31] <_jason> dawid: maybe something like 'ls -a | grep session' might find the file... do you think we should look outside of $HOME ?
[02:31] <vge> arrgh, why cant i connect to irc with my new kernel T_T
[02:31] <vge> this is pissing me off
[02:32] <dawid> i think i should look we can look everywhere but just not /media/ because there is a 250GB hdd mounted
[02:33] <leon_> x
[02:33] <RemyLaptop> anyone used an Intel based graphics card on ubuntu before ?
[02:33] <RemyLaptop> I'm trying to  update the drivers, but don't konw how :P
[02:33] <vge> why you need to update em?
[02:35] <RemyLaptop> cause I have some applications that don't work properly...
[02:35] <RemyLaptop> and it's either because the vid card doesn't support 3d (which is possible) or cause the drivers are old
[02:35] <dawid> hay _jason, have you seen what is comming with dapper? ammazing stuff
[02:35] <RemyLaptop> I haven't found dapper that different to breezy yet :P
[02:35] <_jason> dawid: haven't had a chance yet, I have to burn a livecd one of these days
[02:36] <gnomefreak> RemyLaptop: you wont really
[02:36] <RemyLaptop> :)
[02:36] <gnomefreak> RemyLaptop: there are some things but for most part just updated packages and lil things here and there
[02:36] <RemyLaptop> I LOVE the startup art work though :D
[02:36] <RemyLaptop> They have to leave that as one of the options once the final dist is released...
[02:37] <_jason> dawid: try this: locate session | xargs grep -i tilda
[02:37] <_jason> dawid: if the change was recent then you might have to update the locate database with 'sudo updatedb' beforehand
[02:37] <mlask> ohh... one more simple question: when i'm running some gnome apps as root (eg. synaptic), they are using some very ugly themes. I've tried to log in as a root in gnome (what i know wasn't a good idea) and changing the theme but it doesn't helped. I just would like to know, where are thoat  config file for setting themes for gtk-apps runned as a root under gnome. so... where is it?
[02:37] <bluey> this is quite odd, i installed the fglrx ati driver and now xv doesn't work correctly with mplayer. apparently xvinfo thinks there are no adaptors present. I know the ati driver is installed correctly because glxinfo | grep direct says direct rending is enabled
[02:38] <dawid> great _jason that one worked... found it!!
[02:38] <dawid> here it was "/home/dawid/.xsession"
[02:38] <bluey> i had a look at xorg.conf and the screen section is defined properly
[02:39] <eugman> Yeah when I installed dapper the artowk made me laugh so hard.
[02:39] <bluey> how does xv determine what graphics adapter to use?
[02:39] <MidMark> hi, yesterday all filesystem of my kubuntu 5.10 structure goes in fuck, fortunatelly I have backupped all my data with flight 6 live cd, the hard disk isn't broken (deep test result are ok), but how is it possible that failure? Bug?
[02:39] <atsi> hi
[02:40] <MenZa> liable: I'm removing those packages now :)
[02:41] <atsi> i downloaded the dvd version of ubuntu and i installed it in a pc that does not have have internet connection. is there any way to get all the updates manually and install them from a cd or so? plz prefix
[02:42] <RemyLaptop> !kubuntu
[02:42] <ubotu> from memory, kubuntu is Ubuntu+KDE (not a fork) ; see http://kubuntu.org and you can go to #kubuntu for KDE-related help, or install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/
[02:42] <eugman> Atsi there is a way to make a dvd based repository of all the packages. I'll have to look because I forget the lonk.
[02:42] <RemyLaptop> !tell MidMark about kubuntu
[02:42] <atsi> eugman: ok i am waiting.
[02:42] <eugman> atsi, http://cargol.net/~ramon/ubuntu-dvd-en
[02:42] <eugman> I think that's it.
[02:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> RemyLaptop: i pointed him here
[02:43] <eugman> hmmm wait a sec.
[02:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> its not a kubuntu issues, its a a low level ubuntu issue
[02:43] <bluey> ahem, lol, you try and remove - sudo apt-get remove libxv1 and apt tries to remove just about the entire system
[02:43] <RemyLaptop> rofl
[02:43] <MidMark> it's a (k)ubuntu related problem not specific to KDE I think
[02:43] <RemyLaptop> :D
[02:43] <MidMark> so you can help me?
[02:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[02:43] <RemyLaptop> :-)
[02:43] <RemyLaptop> I come here for help...
[02:43] <RemyLaptop> :D
[02:44] <Neurosis> so doest that basicly turn ubuntu into kubuntu?
[02:44] <eugman> Ok no I think that's the right site. Good luck atsi.
[02:44] <protocol1> whats a good ftp client to run under ubuntu?
[02:44] <_jason> !ftp
[02:44] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: vsftpd, proftpd
[02:44] <anurag> gftp
[02:44] <RemyLaptop> !sdl
[02:44] <Neurosis> im thinking about installing kde myself
[02:44] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, RemyLaptop
[02:44] <gnomefreak> bluey: can you pastebin me what it wants to remove please
[02:44] <RemyLaptop> what is SDL ?
[02:44] <MenZa> How do I move layers around in the Gimp?
[02:44] <atsi> eugman: ok thanks. i got a good access to a mirror of ubuntu. how can i make the dvd images? the machine that has access to the net has windows.
[02:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> RemyLaptop: what context?
[02:44] <RemyLaptop> I keep getting : Couldn't initialize SDL: No I/O port permissions
[02:45] <bluey> gnomefreak: ok
[02:45] <RemyLaptop> Is SDL something to do with video ?
[02:45] <RemyLaptop> when trying to run games
[02:45] <foxpaul> anyone have an idea how i can call rsync to compare a local directory against a remote one, and only fetch the new and updated files?
[02:45] <_jason> MenZa: with the move tool, + with arrows at the end I believe
[02:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> RemyLaptop: yeh. its to do with video acceleration iirc
[02:45] <MidMark> so now I have mounted the filesystem with flight 6 live cd, which logs I have to view to identify the problem of my crash?
[02:46] <MenZa> Move tool? There is such :S?
[02:46] <bluey> gnomefreak: http://rafb.net/paste/results/eavPVU21.html - it seems a little excessive don't you think? :p
[02:46] <MenZa> Ah, the compassy move-thingy.
[02:46] <MenZa> Thanks.
[02:46] <eugman> atsi , hmm the howto seems to be linux based. I'm afraid what you need is outside of my range of help.
[02:46] <_jason> MenZa: http://docs.gimp.org/en/gimp-tool-move.html :) the site may help with more
[02:46] <atsi> eugman: in other words i am running windows and i have internet connection. how can i make the whole in a windows machine and then move it home to ubuntu? i need the isos? where from?
[02:47] <nomads> can ubuntu run on a C64 or Vic 20?
[02:47] <gnomefreak> bluey: all those packages depend on that lib please do not uninstall it. (is there a reason why you want to uninstall it?
[02:47] <RemyLaptop> I have some packages that don't get updated when I run dist-upgrade, would that be because I installed them when running breezy, and there aren't updates available for dapper ?
[02:47] <atsi> eugman: that how to assumes net conection.
[02:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> nomads: .... no....
[02:47] <nomads> :D
[02:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> RemyLaptop: such as?
[02:47] <gnomefreak> RemyLaptop: those are being kept back for a reason everyones dapper is
[02:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> :P
[02:47] <gnomefreak> there are like 4 or 5 of them
[02:48] <nomads> good morning! :D
[02:48] <bluey> gnomefreak: ye, after i installed the ati fglrx driver, xv can not be used
[02:48] <bluey> gnomefreak: xvinfo says there are no adapters present
[02:48] <RemyLaptop> The following packages have been kept back:
[02:48] <RemyLaptop>   gdk-imlib1 hplip-data wine
[02:49] <bluey> gnomefreak: http://rafb.net/paste/results/pzHM2f12.html
[02:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> RemyLaptop: dont worry, dist-upgrade holds back packages now and then
[02:49] <gnomefreak> RemyLaptop: i would leave them for now
[02:49] <raj> hai could someone help me out
[02:49] <RemyLaptop> k
[02:49] <RemyLaptop> :)
[02:49] <RemyLaptop> well, thanks for everyone's help
[02:49] <_jason> !helpme
[02:49] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[02:49] <RemyLaptop> I'm going to bed.
[02:49] <RemyLaptop> later
[02:50] <MidMark> so no help for me?
[02:50] <eugman> atsi, it assumes you have linux computer with a net connection which can install debmirror, make some changes and then burn the repos onto dvd. How you can do something similar in windows i don't know.
[02:50] <bluey> gnomefreak: i thought re-installing it might fix it
[02:50] <raj> when i set panel backgroud i see yellow instead of transparent background
[02:50] <gnomefreak> bluey: looks like you are missing something x-video needs to run
[02:50] <raj> using gnome version 2.14
[02:50] <Trunkz> morning folks
[02:50] <_jason> seems like it should
[02:50] <gnomefreak> raj: please use #ubuntu+1 for dapper issues
[02:50] <Trunkz> having a problem with ubuntu actually connecting to my router
[02:50] <bluey> gnomefreak: ye, but i don't know what, i have the ati driver setup correctly, glxinfo says direct rendering is enabled
[02:51] <Trunkz> ubuntu recognises the network card, but doesnt seem to connect to the routers. this computer works fine tho =/
[02:51] <atsi> eugman: i can find a machine which has fedora core 5. will that help?
[02:51] <graveson> eugman: just to expand on that subject ,how much space do you need fo a local repo ?
[02:51] <gnomefreak> bluey: yes i saw that thats why i think something is missing but im not sure either
[02:51] <bluey> gnomefreak: i thought xv just uses the xorg video driver module to do rendering which is all setup correctly
[02:51] <graveson> eugman: sorry local mirror
[02:52] <graveson> does anyone know how i can remove an echo with from an audio file with lame
[02:53] <bluey> gnomefreak: although i do get a strange thing with mplayer when i try and use xv, it says it can't access /dev/3dfx. which makes me think xv is trying to use the wrong video card
[02:53] <pig> hello andybody
[02:53] <eugman> Well appently between 5 and 15 GB if you want everything. That howto splits things up into three disks beause ofthe three section. There may be a simpler option so I'm going to go looks.
[02:54] <gnomefreak> bluey: could be that i would look for in the config files for xv you should beable to find them in home  ~/.xvideo
[02:54] <atsi> i have a machine that runs windows and has internet conection. at my home i got ubuntu installed. where can i find all the necessary iso's to get them at my place and make the necessary updates? like a local repository. the ubuntu machine does not have a connection to the internet. any ideas?
[02:54] <bluey> gnomefreak: ok
[02:54] <dumezil_> im getting an odd error that makes my computer stop completely and i have to hard reset it to recover. "daemon.log:Apr  6 03:01:06 localhost gdm[7292] : gdm_slave_xioerror_handler: Fatal X error - Restarting :0"  this happened last night at 3am, when i wasn't at my computer.  any ideas why this happens?  it happens on a regular basis
[02:54] <Neurosis> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop; <--- does this just install kde onto ubuntu?
[02:55] <pig> hello?where is ubuntu-cn channle?
[02:55] <bluey> gnomefreak: there is no config file for it
[02:55] <dario> hello
[02:55] <atsi> eugman: iam waiting. i got plenty of space. no worries. the thing is to find a way to get it home through a USB hard disk
[02:55] <chmod775> Yes Neurosis
[02:55] <chmod775> this does
[02:55] <Neurosis> thanks
[02:55] <Neurosis> i was hoping it didnt overwrite everything
[02:55] <MidMark> thanx for helping me
[02:55] <Neurosis> i still want the option to swtich back to gnome
[02:55] <stewart> what music player do you people use?
[02:56] <pig> i use bmmp
[02:56] <pig> /help
[02:57] <stewart> never heard of bmmp
[02:57] <eugman> Actually it looks like at http://cargol.net/~ramon/ubuntu-dvd-en they have torrents in step one for already made iso.
[02:58] <stewart> OK howabout dvd players
[02:58] <twinge> can anyone tell me how to tell ubuntu that I have a dual monitor setup?
[02:58] <pig> list
[02:58] <atsi> eugman: thanks. but which ones do i need? i got ubuntu 5.10
[02:59] <eugman> Well each one is a differenct section of the repository. Main, universe, and multiverse. So you understand what that means?
[03:00] <twinge> anyone else have a dual monitor setup?
[03:00] <atsi> eugman: not really. could u be a bit more detailed? ok once downloaded, how do i update from the files?
[03:00] <eugman> Ah ok let me elaborate.
[03:01] <gnomefreak> ok twinge give me a min i have a site just have to find it
[03:01] <atsi> eugman: ok waiting.
[03:01] <twinge> gnomefreak: thx
[03:01] <Trunkz> anyone got any idea regarding how i can fix this little problem/
[03:01] <eugman> You probably want all three dvd images. Each one has a different section of the repository: main, universe and multiverse.
[03:02] <stewart> anyone know their xorg.conf very well?
[03:02] <eugman> Main is everything essential to running ubuntu or things that will be supported for a long time
[03:02] <Trunkz> not sure why its happening, since this system connects to the router and gets its ip perfectly fine
[03:02] <Trunkz> whilst the other one doesnt =/
[03:02] <eugman> Universe is all the other free programs that ubuntu can use but won't support if people stop improving it.
[03:02] <Trunkz> it was working fine on windows, when i cleaned that up and put ubuntu on, it wudnt fetch an ip
[03:03] <eugman> Multiverse is all the things that are non-free like java
[03:03] <pig> is here any chinese?
[03:03] <eugman> You should be able to insert one of these, go to synaptic and add it as a cd repository(even though it's a dvd)
[03:03] <_jason> pig: /join #ubuntu-zh
[03:03] <eugman> Do you know what synaptic is?
[03:03] <atsi> eugman: ok. got it.
[03:03] <atsi> thanks
[03:03] <eugman> np
[03:04] <stewart> how do I edit my gnome conf
[03:04] <pig> _jason, thank you^^
[03:04] <atsi> eugman, i am using debian's stable for years.
[03:05] <eugman> Just checking.
[03:05] <twinge> just finished the install... it's weird only having 1 screen again... feels so cramped :)
[03:05] <Shukhrat> hello alll
[03:05] <Shukhrat> hello all
[03:05] <gnomefreak> twinge: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XineramaMultipleMonitors?highlight=%28monitors%29
[03:05] <atsi> eugman: no worries. and thanks a lot
[03:05] <Trunkz> suuu.. anyone able to figure this out..
[03:05] <twinge> gnomefreak: thx
[03:05] <gnomefreak> yw
[03:06] <mds> how do I know when to do an apt-get upgrade vs an apt-get dist-upgrade?
[03:06] <rmlightning> is there anyway to make an avi file into a dvd playable on dvd players?
[03:06] <Shukhrat> !fonts
[03:06] <ubotu> it has been said that fonts is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FontInstallHowto
[03:06] <Trunkz> yea, u need to convert it i believe
[03:06] <Trunkz> errrm.. not sure what the linux proggie wud be, but i assume nero does this fine.
[03:07] <Trunkz> my keyboard's playing up atm, so i might need to get some batteries.. hence the lack of shift or ctrl ;p
[03:07] <bluszcz> i cannot start few opengl games (tremolus, quake3, quake4, doom3) usuing kubuntu, their hangs during startup (others torcs, scorched 3d) works fine, i am running 3d acceleration
[03:08] <Alexandre> Every body: Hey guys, i wrote in file hosts, and receive this mensage: sudo: unable to lookup reencontro.org.br via gethostbyname() , What i doto delete this file and can work again
[03:08] <eugman> I figure I should help people to pay off the massive debt I gain when switching to ubuntu
[03:08] <_jason> Alexandre: paste the first line of /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts
[03:08] <Frogzoo> bluszcz: for wine support -> #winehq
[03:08] <bluszcz> Frogzoo: i am not running this via wine
[03:08] <Alexandre> _jason: i can't use sudo!!
[03:09] <bluszcz> Frogzoo: i meaning native linux games, and this probblems occurs only in [k] ubuntu
[03:09] <djs_2_6> Hey all.  Quick question.  How can I forcibly unmount my /home partition?
[03:09] <Frogzoo> bluszcz: ah I c
[03:09] <_jason> Alexandre: you don't need sudo to view them, just do 'gedit /etc/hosts' and 'gedit /etc/hostname'
[03:09] <bluszcz> under debian, suse on my compuer it works.
[03:09] <mlask> whcih file should i edit to change gtk2 theme? where is it?
[03:09] <Frafra> does centrino duo work in dapper?
[03:09] <Frogzoo> bluszcz: 1st step obviously upgrade to the latest vid driver
[03:10] <Frogzoo> Frafra: is the Pope a catholic?
[03:10] <bluszcz> Frogzoo: i've got.
[03:10] <bluszcz> Frogzoo: (frlgx latest driver)
[03:10] <Alexandre> _jason: I do, but i cant save!!
[03:10] <Frafra> Frogzoo: no, an intel processor :)
[03:11] <Trunkz> hello guys, my ubuntu system isnt able to connect to the internet. what can i do
[03:11] <Frogzoo> bluszcz: I'd say try the xorg.log & google
[03:11] <rmlightning> can u get nero from the repositories?
[03:11] <_jason> Alexandre: do you know what you have to change?  I was going to tell you and then explain that you need to reboot in recovery mode and do 'nano /etc/hosts' to fix, press ctrl-o to save, ctrl-x to exit, then reboot
[03:11] <Trunkz> rmlightning, nero is windows only ;p
[03:11] <Frogzoo> Trunkz: describe your method of connecting to the net
[03:11] <atsi> eugman: final question. in the same network i got a pc that runs debians sarge (stable). that means i can run the same dvd's? sorry i know that it might not be the appropriate channel
[03:12] <bluszcz> Frogzoo: tried
[03:12] <Trunkz> frogzoo, i currently have two ubuntu machines, both breezy, with this one being upgraded to dapper in an hour or so
[03:12] <predius_> Trunkz: http://www.nero.com/en/NeroLINUX.html
[03:12] <Trunkz> the current machine works fine. it connects to my netgear router, which goes thru the internet
[03:12] <Trunkz> the second machine, has the same method
[03:12] <Frogzoo> Trunkz: & nat on the router, yes? are you running dhcp on the netgear router?
[03:13] <Trunkz> yea
[03:13] <Alexandre> _jason: i do rigth, but i no have option to save ( no ctrl+s)
[03:13] <Frogzoo> Trunkz: yes & yes?
[03:13] <Trunkz> yep
[03:13] <Trunkz> i had just upgraded the second machine to ubuntu, after moving it from xp.. it had no problems then
[03:13] <Frogzoo> Trunkz: so copy /etc/network/interfaces from the working box across to the other & reboot
[03:14] <Trunkz> they dont have the same network cards, is that fine
[03:14] <_jason> Alexandre: reboot in recovery mode and do 'nano /etc/hosts' to fix, press ctrl-o to save, ctrl-x to exit, then reboot
[03:14] <Alexandre> _jason: OK
[03:14] <gerhard> hi
[03:14] <dawid> hey does any1 know where the theme files must be placed?
[03:14] <Frogzoo> Trunkz: depends - you can check in /var/log/messages to see if the kernel loads the right driver & recognises teh card (at boot)
[03:14] <_jason> dawid: ~/.themes
[03:14] <rmlightning> there is a nero for linux but it isn't free :(
[03:14] <vista> hi
[03:14] <Trunkz> not sure, i'll check now
[03:14] <Frogzoo> !tell dawid about themes
[03:15] <vista> everyone
[03:15] <Trunkz> i know it actually recognises the card.. whether its the right one or not is another matter
[03:15] <rmlightning> so...how do u decode movies on linux?
[03:15] <Killgore> rmlightning: but im sure you can get it *ahem* other ways
[03:15] <Trunkz> let me check.
[03:15] <vista> my ubuntu meets difficulty
[03:15] <eugman> Atsi , as far as I know ubuntu repos and debain repos are slightly incompatable. You might wasn't to ask someone else about that. However the tutorial looks like it wou;ld work for debian repositoroies but you'd have to figure out a way to do that. Like a livecd and a accessable harddrive.
[03:15] <gerhard> is there y burning software coming with ubuntu?
[03:15] <arrick> IdleOne,
[03:15] <_jason> ubotu: tell rmlightning about multimedia
[03:15] <arrick> morning
[03:15] <eugman> er you might want to ask someone else though.
[03:15] <vista> it sais... he cannot open shared file:libssl.so.5
[03:15] <atsi> eugman: anyway u were more than helpful
[03:15] <vista> should i download it?
[03:16] <gerhard> ah k3b
[03:16] <vista> or... what else?
[03:16] <Frogzoo> eugman: not only slightly compatible - using debian debs can seriously bork your system
[03:16] <sfar> can i somehow import my IE-favourites from a windows partition to firefox in linux?
[03:16] <vista> need an echo, plz
[03:16] <Frogzoo> gerhard: -> k3b
[03:16] <Alexandre> _jason: permission danied
[03:16] <vista> echo, echo...
[03:16] <gerhard> downloading
[03:17] <Frogzoo> sfar: nafaik
[03:17] <_jason> Alexandre: did you choose 'recovery mode' form the grub menu after a restart?
[03:17] <vista> :) need hlp
[03:17] <sfar> sigh.. doing things manually suck :)
[03:17] <Frogzoo> vista: echo echoechoechoechoechoechoechoechoecho
[03:17] <bluey> grr, i can't get any video to work now. lol
[03:17] <vista> faint...
[03:17] <plbgnr> hello, how can I just look what packages would be updated with apt-get upgrade?
[03:17] <vista> tell me how, frogzoo
[03:18] <_jason> plbgnr: apt-get -s , simulates anything you do.  So I suppose apt-get -s upgrade
[03:18] <rixth_> How do I reinstall grub from an ubuntu live cd?
[03:18] <_jason> ubotu: tell rixth_ about grub
[03:18] <eugman> sfar well there might be a way actually.
[03:18] <gerhard> whats the default root password for ubuntu systems?
[03:18] <plbgnr> _jason thanks
[03:18] <arrick> hey DBO you here this morning?
[03:18] <_jason> ubotu: tell gerhard about root
[03:18] <Frogzoo> vista: wish I could help
[03:18] <vista> yes
[03:18] <dawid> _jason, i am not sure if this is a theme, it is the startup screen you see when you login?
[03:18] <sfar> eugman: yay, how? :)
[03:18] <_jason> dawid: use system > administration > login screen setup
[03:19] <gerhard> thanks
[03:19] <vista> it says .... my ubuntu cannot open libssl.so.5
[03:19] <vista> should i apt-get or just download?
[03:19] <predius_> apt-get
[03:19] <_jason> dawid: you want the ``themed greeter'' panel and then ``install new theme'' at the bottom
[03:19] <vista> ok ... but what is the parameter...
[03:19] <MenZa> ..how do I scroll a terminal? I was told SHIFT+ PGUP, but that doesn't work (for me at least)
[03:19] <arrick> Frogzoo, _jason Anyone: DBO helped me setup my ftp server last night, and now the public can view i,t, but I dont know how to login in to add files, you got any suggestions?
[03:19] <eugman> Well if you install firefox on windows then it'll import the bookmarks and you would just need to find where it stores them and move the stuff over.  I suggest you talk to someone who knows what they are doing however.
[03:19] <Trunkz> it looks like its picking up the right driver
[03:19] <Frogzoo> vista: sudo apt-get install libssl
[03:20] <vista> ok
[03:20] <Frogzoo> arrick: man 'ftpserver'  - the ftp server may have it's own passwd db & tools to manage the db, or it might just use nix passwd
[03:20] <vista> ok
[03:20] <vista> thanks
[03:20] <gerhard> and is there an ftp transer program like flash fxp?
[03:20] <arrick> ok
[03:21] <vista> frogzoo, why what you said to me is in red?
[03:21] <Frogzoo> Trunkz: copied across the interfaces file?
[03:21] <eugman> So see how one would transfer bookmarks across systems. I'm guessing there is a #firefox or #mozilla channel.
[03:21] <Frogzoo> vista: because I included your name
[03:21] <vista> and how?
[03:21] <rixth_> _jason, "-bash: grub: commands not found"
[03:21] <Frogzoo> v i s t a - see, this isn't red
[03:21] <Killgore> eugman: try them and find out :P
[03:21] <vista> Frogzoo: this?
[03:21] <sfar> eugman: thanks.. that should work :)
[03:21] <vista> vista: hi
[03:21] <_jason> rixth_: are you alexandre?
[03:21] <vista> no...
[03:21] <rixth_> _jason, huh?
[03:21] <dawid> thanks jason
[03:22] <_jason> rixth_: lol sorry, I just sent alexandre off to reboot in recovery mode
[03:22] <vista> when i said to myself, including 'vista', it's not in red...
[03:22] <Killgore> gerhard: ubuntu has a command line ftp client
[03:22] <Killgore> because its you
[03:22] <ChrisLTD> I know this doesn't have anything to do with ubuntu... but have you guys ever had a router only work when 2 computers are plugged in, instead of just 1?
[03:22] <Killgore> i am Killgore
[03:22] <vista> it's me?
[03:22] <rixth_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows#head-5dbdd6b5302831ed4335bd0b7387ffcad2543857 I am trying to dothat but can't.
[03:22] <Killgore> but
[03:22] <ompaul> vista, the coders assumed you knew when you named yourself
[03:22] <eugman> killgore, ubuntu has alot of command line stuff is there any one place to see and learn about all that stuff?
[03:22] <rixth_> Cause 'grub' is not a command
[03:22] <vista> ok
[03:23] <gerhard> er
[03:23] <vista> ompaul, in red?
[03:23] <Frogzoo> ChrisLTD: that's just totally borked
[03:23] <gerhard> not anything more comfortable?
[03:23] <vista> Frogzoo, in red?
[03:23] <ompaul> vista, yes it is, if xchat and several other irc clients
[03:23] <Killgore> eugman: experimentation mainly and tips from in here, but most things are common sense like the ftp client is just ftp and ssh is similar
[03:23] <vista> ok
[03:23] <ompaul> vista, stop it
[03:23] <vista> xchat
[03:23] <ChrisLTD> frog: I know.. I wonder if there is some kind of short in the router
[03:23] <neuwald> hi folks
[03:23] <Frogzoo> !tell eugman about docs
[03:23] <_jason> rixth_: is grub installed?  I think it is... what does 'apt-cache policy grub | grep -i Installed' say?
[03:23] <neuwald> where I can found documentation to make a custom gnome panel?
[03:24] <neuwald> find
[03:24] <Frogzoo> vista: depends on the client, but highlighted, yes
[03:24] <vista> ok, got it
[03:24] <rixth_> _jason, it isn't.
[03:24] <Frogzoo> eugman: check the pm from ubotu
[03:24] <Killgore> ChrisLTD: how old is the router?
[03:24] <vista> i thought it was the server who decides the color
[03:24] <_jason> rixth_: apt-get install grub, what version of ubuntu live are you using?
[03:24] <Killgore> ChrisLTD: have you had any problems with it before
[03:25] <dawid> _jason, thanks
[03:25] <eugman> Yes time to do a seacrh in the wiki for mutt's and links2's little friends.
[03:25] <Frogzoo> vista: you can send escapse sequences to set the colour - but don't do this as many clients misinterpret the escape sequences and cause people problems
[03:25] <gnomefreak> vista: no its the client
[03:27] <vista> yes
[03:27] <vista> i know
[03:27] <vista> do you use smb?
[03:27] <vista> why i got an error as below:
[03:27] <vista> 9031: session setup failed: ERRDOS - ERRnoaccess (Access denied.)
[03:27] <Frogzoo> ChrisLTD: maybe try plugging into a different router port - make sure you're not using an uplink (ie wired as crossover) port
[03:27] <vista> i did as what manual told me
[03:28] <M_A_K> I have a classroom and originally created a generic Student user. I am now using NIS to authenticate. My problem is that I do not know how to give the individual accounts I created on the server the same persmissions as the generic student account.  I am using a Gentoo box as my server (it was already set up in the room).
[03:28] <Frogzoo> M_A_K: you need to explore the wonderful world of nistbladm
[03:31] <M_A_K> Frogzoo : Thanks, I'll have a look.
[03:32] <ChrisLSD> hey Kilgore: the router is a year old.. maybe 2
[03:33] <Frogzoo> ChrisLTD: maybe try plugging into a different router port - make sure you're not using an uplink (ie wired as crossover) port
[03:33] <ChrisLSD> it always worked before
[03:33] <Frogzoo> ChrisLTD: also I'd suggest disabling autonegotiation on all ports
[03:34] <sczep> In two of my PC's my CD/DVD writer are not recogized by Beezy, how can I chang that??
[03:34] <gerhard> theres another PC in the network which IP I dont exactly know, its a Win with Servu
[03:34] <gerhard> how do I get to know the IP and how do I connect?
[03:34] <ChrisLSD> autonegotiation... I'll try that
[03:34] <Frogzoo> sczep: are these ide DVDs?
[03:35] <Frogzoo> sczep: or scsi or sata?
[03:35] <arrick> ok guys, the 'man proftpd' doesnt tell me about logging in or even where the password is stored, any knowledge would be helpfull
[03:35] <sczep> no PCI
[03:36] <Frogzoo> sczep: then I'd suggest finding a suitable driver module & compiling/installing it
[03:36] <ompaul> !tell vista about samba
[03:36] <gerhard> ok i have the ip
[03:36] <sczep> where can I look for these drivers??
[03:36] <ompaul> vista, please read the contents of the url that ubotu sent you
[03:37] <gerhard> ftp> open 192.168.1.10
[03:37] <gerhard> ftp: connect: Connection refused
[03:37] <gerhard> pls help me^^
[03:38] <ompaul> gerhard log out and do ftp 192.168.1.10
[03:38] <Frogzoo> sczep: well you could start with google
[03:38] <vista_> faint...
[03:38] <ompaul> gerhard it should look for a username and then a password (an email address if anynmous is set up)
[03:39] <arrick> ok guys, the 'man proftpd' doesnt tell me about logging in or even where the password is stored, any knowledge would be helpfull Frogzoo IdleOne
[03:39] <gerhard> ok wait
[03:39] <vista_> i have installed libssl0.9.6, but why it says it can't find libssl.so.5 again?
[03:39] <ompaul> !tell vista_ about samba
[03:39] <Frogzoo> arrick: check the docs I'd suggest - /usr/share/doc
[03:39] <ompaul> vista_, please read the contents of the url that ubotu sent you
[03:39] <vista_> ok
[03:40] <vista_> i know
[03:40] <arrick> ok
[03:40] <gerhard> doesnt work
[03:40] <gerhard> i think i didnt get it
[03:40] <vista_> but mine is about libssl.so.5 now
[03:40] <ompaul> gerhard, did you install an ftpserver?
[03:40] <vista_> ompaul, see?
[03:40] <Trunkz> frogzoo, just had a look over on the second machine
[03:40] <gerhard> on the other pc there is a servu
[03:40] <vista_> ompaul, i have installed libssl0.9.6, but why it says it can't find libssl.so.5 again?
[03:40] <Trunkz> and it brings up the realteck driver fine
[03:40] <liable> gerhard: on the server .. sudo netstat -plunt, or nmap it.
[03:40] <Trunkz> not sure if its the right driver though.
[03:41] <ompaul> vista_, what is looking for that?
[03:41] <vista_> ompaul, do you know why?
[03:41] <Frogzoo> Trunkz: so did you copy over the interfaces file?
[03:41] <MenZa> Is k3b good?
[03:41] <Trunkz> you want me to do that/
[03:41] <vista_> d4x
[03:41] <Trunkz> aight, i'll do that now
[03:41] <liable> gerhard: connection refused either means the server isnt running, or a firewall has dropped the packet
[03:41] <gerhard> it is running
[03:41] <igcek> Question: is it possible and how to install scanner in ubuntu.. just a hint!
[03:41] <ompaul> vista_, I don't know what d4x is
[03:41] <gerhard> and theres no firewall
[03:41] <vista_> ompaul, it is "downloading for x"
[03:41] <vista_> ompaul, do you know how to fix that?
[03:41] <ompaul> vista_, as in an ftp client?
[03:41] <gerhard> strange
[03:41] <gerhard> so theres no GUI ftp client?
[03:42] <Trunkz> iface wlan0 inet dhcp
[03:42] <Trunkz> wireless-essid Firefox
[03:42] <Trunkz> auto wlan0
[03:42] <Trunkz> can i remove that
[03:42] <liable> gerhard: gftp
[03:42] <vista_> ompaul, maybe... i can download it
[03:42] <ompaul> gerhard, there is gftp
[03:42] <Trunkz> since the second box doesnt have a wireless lan card
[03:42] <gerhard> ok i search
[03:42] <vista_> ompaul, if i download one, does it help?
[03:42] <Frogzoo> vista_: you should have /usr/lib/libssl.so.0.9.7 - how come you need libssl.so.5??
[03:42] <vista_> Frogzoo, i'v got 0.9.6
[03:43] <gerhard> he doesnt find it
[03:43] <gerhard> in the add software dialogue
[03:43] <Trunkz> frogzoo, can i remove that part or not/
[03:43] <Frogzoo> Trunkz: yes, remove the wifi declaration, obviously
[03:43] <vista_> and i have 0.9.7 now
[03:43] <Trunkz> okey.. ;p
[03:43] <gerhard> where can i get that?
[03:43] <ompaul> vista_, please stop a second, your confusing  me, you have a requirement rather than pointing at libraries what is that requirement? is it to download programs or something else?
[03:43] <rafal_> hello
[03:43] <gerhard> hello rafal_
[03:43] <rafal_> I am from Poland
[03:43] <liable> !INFO GFTP BREEZY
[03:43] <ubotu> gftp: has nothing about INFO
[03:43] <liable> grr
[03:43] <rafal_> u??
[03:43] <Frogzoo> vista_: so what is asking for libssl.so.5??
[03:44] <liable> !info gftp breezy
[03:44] <ubotu> gftp: (X/GTK+ FTP client), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 2.0.18-10 (breezy), Packaged size: 43 kB, Installed size: 76 kB
[03:44] <Frogzoo> !info gftp
[03:44] <gerhard> im from germany
[03:44] <ubotu> gftp: (X/GTK+ FTP client), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 2.0.18-10 (breezy), Packaged size: 43 kB, Installed size: 76 kB
[03:44] <vista_> ompaul, when i run d4x, it says he cant find file libssl.so.5
[03:44] <rafal_> !info
[03:44] <graveson> does anyone know of any tools in ubuntu that supports lightscribe
[03:44] <vista_> Frogzoo, d4x
[03:44] <ompaul> pokes even
[03:44] <kurei> hello... how do i know what hard diskl partition my ubuntu is installed?
[03:44] <ompaul> !info gftp
[03:44] <liable> caps lock..
[03:44] <ompaul> :)
[03:44] <vista_> ompaul, any suggetion?
[03:44] <rafal_> is there any people from Poland??
[03:45] <carthik> !pl
[03:45] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu.pl
[03:45] <carthik> !in
[03:45] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, carthik
[03:45] <vista_> !libssl.so.5
[03:45] <ompaul> vista, first I am going to find out what is d4x and then say if we have something that works like that
[03:45] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, vista_
[03:45] <rafal_> #ubuntu.pl
[03:45] <gerhard> whats the apt packet name for gftp ?
[03:45] <Frogzoo> kurei: sudo fstab -l    should give a clue - or cat /etc/fstab
[03:45] <liable> vista_: /msg ubuto find libssl.so.5
[03:45] <Frogzoo> gerhard: would you believe...........gftp?
[03:46] <gerhard> gerhard@Gerhard:~$ sudo apt-get install gftpd
[03:46] <vista_> ...
[03:46] <liable> not d
[03:46] <liable> its a client
[03:46] <ompaul> vista, install the universe repos then using synaptic install it - this download build is not the way you get things done in ubuntu
[03:46] <gerhard> i copied the wrong line
[03:46] <gerhard> gerhard@Gerhard:~$ sudo apt-get install gftp
[03:47] <gerhard> E: Konnte Paket gftp nicht finden
[03:47] <kurei> am i supposed to have two swap partitions by default?
[03:47] <ompaul> !tell vista_ about synaptic
[03:47] <_jason> !info gftp
[03:47] <juztin> does anyone know where i can get kdialog, referred to in this error message : ERROR: amaroK-svn requires kdialog, which wasn't found in your $PATH!
[03:47] <ubotu> gftp: (X/GTK+ FTP client), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 2.0.18-10 (breezy), Packaged size: 43 kB, Installed size: 76 kB
[03:47] <_jason> ubotu: tell gerhard about universe
[03:47] <Hobbsee> kurei: er...not that i know of...
[03:47] <vista_> faint
[03:47] <ompaul> !tell vista_ about reposa
[03:47] <ompaul> !tell vista_ about repos
[03:47] <kurei> frogzoo, tnx!
[03:47] <kurei> hbbsee, tnx
[03:47] <vista_> god
[03:48] <ompaul> vista_, you can now do it the easy way, if you read the info from the bot
[03:48] <Trunkz> frogzoo, same thing
[03:48] <gnomefreak> ok i guess im here for awhile ;)
[03:48] <vista_> but ubotu tell me three kind of information
[03:48] <vista_> checking them now
[03:48] <gnomefreak> vista_: are you on breezy?
[03:49] <vista_> yes
[03:49] <Frogzoo> Trunkz: sudo ifdown eth0 ; sudo ifup eth0; & then pastebin 'ifconfig'
[03:49] <vista_> gnomefreak, yes
[03:49] <elyxi> how do i see what kernel i got?
[03:49] <gnomefreak> than either use the first link or use easysource which ever applies to  what you are trying to do
[03:49] <Trunkz> Realtek 8101L, that shud be the onboard network driver.. got this from the msi site
[03:49] <ompaul> vista_, okay you are going to use the program SYNAPTIC for installing programs, the other information was that you need to install the Universe Repo to get d4x for ubuntu
[03:49] <gnomefreak> elyxi: uname -r
[03:49] <Frogzoo> elyxi: cat /proc/version or uname -a
[03:49] <juztin> does anyone know where i can get kdialog, referred to in this error message : ERROR: amaroK-svn requires kdialog, which wasn't found in your $PATH!
[03:50] <gnomefreak> !info kdialog
[03:50] <Trunkz> is pastebin a command/
[03:50] <gnomefreak> hmmmmm
[03:50] <Frogzoo> !Tell Trunkz about pastebin
[03:50] <_jason> juztin: it's in kdebase-bin
[03:50] <Frogzoo> Trunkz: did you compile this driver yourself?
[03:50] <Trunkz> ya i thought it was that
[03:50] <Trunkz> no, this was a default driver
[03:50] <_jason> juztin: probably easier to just isntall all the amarok deps
[03:50] <Trunkz> i just installed ubuntu 5.10 from the cd
[03:50] <Trunkz> and i'm assuming ubuntu assigned this driver
[03:50] <graveson> what can i use to convert mp3 files to wma
[03:51] <juztin> _jason, ok thx
[03:51] <Frogzoo> Trunkz: bad move - unless you're very lucky, the driver version won't match your kernel, so it won't work
[03:51] <Trunkz> .. ah
[03:51] <eugman> hey is there a command to restart x?
[03:52] <Trunkz> .. the driver matched this box's kernel
[03:52] <zielony> How can I configure apache (or just WHM), to force him to add some html code to every website hosted on serwer ?
[03:52] <Trunkz> dunno why it wudnt match the other box
[03:52] <Killgore> eugman: CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE
[03:52] <_jason> eugman: ctrl-alt-backspace, or sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart
[03:52] <Trunkz> anyway, i've down sudo ifdown and then sudo ifup, and it stays on dhcpdiscover bla bla.. and just keeps doing this command
[03:52] <Frogzoo> Trunkz: best move would be to compile the module (make sure to get pkg linux-kernel-headers)
[03:53] <Trunkz> frogzoo, the second box does not have an internet connection ;p
[03:53] <Delicates> what does inode size affect in ext3 versus block size?
[03:53] <dawid> is there a fantom cd for linux, so i can mount iso images
[03:53] <Trunkz> dawid, u can mount isos with the mount command
[03:53] <Frogzoo> Trunkz: are both machines breezy?
[03:53] <Trunkz> yep
[03:53] <dawid> huh, so i don
[03:53] <dawid> t
[03:54] <dawid> need special programs or something?
[03:54] <Trunkz> this one will get upgraded to dapper shortly.
[03:54] <Trunkz> kinda wanna play around with dapper abit ;p
[03:54] <liable> dawid: mount -o iso9660 /foo.iso /your/mountpoint
[03:54] <liable> err -t iso
[03:54] <eugman> Yeah...I'm in terminal mode now... How do I get back to levely gnome.
[03:54] <Frogzoo> dawid: sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 blah.iso /mnt
[03:54] <emma_> hi
[03:54] <eugman> or should I just restart.
[03:55] <Trunkz> frogzoo, what next
[03:55] <eugman> Hey is there a way to get back to gnome from terminal mode?
[03:55] <Frogzoo> Trunkz: so compile on the box that has the net connection & copy the module across
[03:55] <Trunkz> not sure if we both have the same kernel
[03:55] <liable> eugman: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[03:55] <tompe> Gnome's version of Windows' tray, what is it called?
[03:55] <Trunkz> i'll quickly check, usin uname i suppose
[03:55] <Frogzoo> eugman: if gdm is still running, ctrl alt f7
[03:55] <tompe> Cant find what to add to my panel
[03:55] <_jason> tompe: notification area
[03:56] <tompe> jason thanks
[03:56] <emma_> new as new can be here - hth can i get a ppc version of mplayer?
[03:56] <liable> good question
[03:56] <_jason> ubotu: tell emma_ about mplayer
[03:56] <eugman> Frogzoo , that give be a balck screen with blinking underscore. Does that mean it isn;t running?
[03:56] <Trunkz> frogzoo, same kernel for both machines
[03:56] <eugman> er that gave me a black screen
[03:56] <emma_> ty
[03:57] <dawid> how do i access network shares?
[03:57] <Frogzoo> eugman: yep, sounds like the vid driver's crapped out - maybe try 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart'
[03:57] <wisitvenita> ompaul, i see what you said
[03:57] <eugman> I'll just do a manual restart that should proabably fix everything.
[03:57] <Alexandre> _jason: thanks, everything allright now!!
[03:57] <_jason> Alexandre: great
[03:58] <Trunkz> frogzoo, where do i get the module sources to compile
[03:58] <zielony> How can I configure apache (or just WHM), to force him to add some html code to every website (or every html, php file) hosted on server ?
[03:58] <Frogzoo> Trunkz: if the machines have different kernels, it's going to be a bit of work to get this working - you'll need to dl everything you need as debs, copy across to other machine & install/build module
[03:58] <wisitvenita> ompaul, but he didn't tell me something about libssl.so.5
[03:58] <Trunkz> nope nope, they both have the same kernel versions
[03:58] <Trunkz> i just done uname -r
[03:58] <Alexandre> _jason: I work with LTSP in Brasil!!!
[03:58] <Frogzoo> Trunkz: oh ok, this a pci card?
[03:58] <liable> zielony: what? why?
[03:58] <Trunkz> its onboard
[03:59] <Pebs> HELP!i got the open vmmouse driver to work and the mouse comes in and out of the vmware window correctly, but now scrolling doesn't work inside the VM
[03:59] <Trunkz> Realtek 8101L
[03:59] <_jason> Alexandre: ah cool.  Did you know there is a #ubuntu-br with a lot of brasileiros?
[03:59] <Frogzoo> Trunkz: but the kernel find it when you boot correct? what happens if you do 'sudo ifconfig eth0 up' ?
[03:59] <siezer> anybody in here every try to run a gnome desktop with a remote nfs mounted home directory?
[03:59] <Killgore> point?
[04:00] <Killgore> sounds ok
[04:00] <Alexandre> _jason: Yaeh. Iuse this channel.
[04:00] <Trunkz> frogzoo, let me check lol.. the pc's in the second room, so i'm having to run around the place
[04:00] <M_A_K> Frogzoo : Is nis+ the only way to handle permissions over NIS environment?
[04:00] <siezer> i seem to be getting all SORTS of locking problems.... evolution and gconf
[04:00] <Pebs> vmware-tools problem here, anyone can help?
[04:00] <Frogzoo> M_A_K: absolutely not - vanilla nis will manage passwd & group files no probs
[04:00] <siezer> M_A_K a pre-existing nis environment? or are you setting up a new one?
[04:00] <Alexandre> _jason: but nobody knew about my problem and i was go to international channel
[04:01] <Frogzoo> M_A_K: however nis+ is vastly superior
[04:01] <zielony> liable: I`m running hosting, and I want to add ads to all accounts, that are hosted for free.
[04:01] <Sephiroth> hey
[04:01] <wisitvenita> if i'm missing libssl.so.5, what should i do excactly?
[04:01] <M_A_K> I just set up a new one to get authentication working from a server.  I now have issues with user permissions.
[04:01] <Sephiroth> where can i get cedega?
[04:01] <Frogzoo> M_A_K: nis & nis+ are incompatible - run one or the other
[04:01] <Trunkz> frogzoo
[04:01] <Trunkz> i done that command
[04:01] <Trunkz> nothing happened
[04:02] <carlos_> OLA
[04:02] <imperfect-> tell me bout the css stuff and w32 codecs!
[04:02] <Trunkz> and i think its using the incorrect driver
[04:02] <imperfect-> ;)
[04:02] <wisitvenita> if i'm missing libssl.so.5, what should i do excactly???
[04:02] <siezer> M_A_K i **STRONGLY** suggest you forget all about NIS and look into ldap and maybe even kerberos on top of it
[04:02] <M_A_K> I can add the users to the local /etc/group file and it seems to work.  I was hoping to be able to create the user on the server and he/she would be able to do what he needed to be able to.
[04:02] <Trunkz> since its not Realtek 8101L but another one.
[04:02] <Frogzoo> Trunkz: then do 'ifconfig'  - does it show eth0 as up?
[04:02] <_jason> ubotu: tell imperfect- about dvd
[04:02] <_jason> ubotu: tell imperfect- about w32codecs
[04:02] <imperfect-> thanks
[04:02] <imperfect-> ;)
[04:03] <dawid> ubotu xgl
[04:03] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[04:03] <Trunkz> frogzoo, up broadcast running multicast
[04:03] <Frogzoo> M_A_K: as I've said b4, nis maintains its tables with nistbladm  the nis tables are completely different from the std nix files - but siezer has a point about ldap
[04:03] <GNU_Style> wats the prog name of the terminal mp3 player?
[04:03] <Frogzoo> Trunkz: so that means your card works - just a matter to get it an ip/working with dhcp
[04:04] <arrick> hey Frogzoo I am reading all i can find on the proftpd, and I cannot figure out how to add the ftp folder to my name for anything, no login or nothing
[04:04] <Frogzoo> Trunkz: but dhcp isn't working.... hmm..
[04:04] <Trunkz> u sure, not a matter of incorrect drivers
[04:04] <Trunkz> dhcp is obviously working, as i'm connected to it
[04:04] <Frogzoo> arrick: not sure, don't run it
[04:04] <M_A_K> Ok, I will read about ldap.
[04:04] <M_A_K> Thanks guys.
[04:04] <Trunkz> i have a winxp laptop which i'll be moving to ubuntu tonight, which is connected fine as well
[04:04] <wisitvenita> HELP!!! if i'm missing libssl.so.5, what should i do excactly???
[04:04] <arrick> ok thanks
[04:04] <healot> bad cab drivers :)
[04:05] <Frogzoo> Trunkz: if the nic comes up, the kernel is happy to talk to it (until proved otherwise)
[04:05] <healot> GNU_Style, mpg123 as i remember it
[04:05] <Trunkz> okey..
[04:05] <Seveas> !help
[04:05] <Frogzoo> Trunkz: not an issue with autoneg is it?
[04:06] <siezer> M_A_K is there a reason why youre looking to use NIS in particular?
[04:06] <Trunkz> whats that frogzoo
[04:06] <Kolan> Hi, anyone who can tell me how I in a easy way can install an older version of a package?
[04:06] <Frogzoo> Trunkz: autonegotiation
[04:06] <siezer> Kolan do it with a dkpg command line as long as your arm, or use synaptic
[04:06] <Trunkz> errm, no idea lol
[04:06] <Frogzoo> Kolan: dl the deb - dpkg -i blah.deb
[04:06] <wisitvenita> nobody helps me?
[04:06] <Trunkz> this pc is gonna be restarting soon, as dapper's nearly done downloading
[04:07] <Trunkz> so i'll move over to the laptop.. lemme get that started
[04:07] <orbin> wisitvenita: what are you doing to cause that error?
[04:07] <wisitvenita> orbin, i'd like to get libssl.so.5
[04:07] <Kolan> mm.. Im installing php 4.3.10 but there are so many packets that it depend on..
[04:07] <gerhard> is there no wine for ubuntu?
[04:07] <wisitvenita> orbin, how can i?
[04:07] <gerhard> !info wine
[04:08] <ubotu> wine: (Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library)), section universe/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.0.20050725-0ubuntu1.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 14130 kB, Installed size: 55488 kB
[04:08] <arrick> who here is good with proftpd?
[04:08] <eugman> Anyone know how I can install windows fonts without automatix?
[04:08] <gnomefreak> eugman: please dont use automatix
[04:09] <gnomefreak> !fonts
[04:09] <ubotu> methinks fonts is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FontInstallHowto
[04:09] <gnomefreak> ^^^ eugman
[04:09] <Trunkz> okey frogzoo, what is it that i need to check regarding autoneg
[04:09] <darkhorizon> gnomefreak, curious to know why you oppose automatix?
[04:09] <gerhard> how do i install wine? synaptic doesnt find it
[04:09] <Trunkz> gerhard, go add the wine repo
[04:09] <Frogzoo> Trunkz: disable autonegotiation on both ends
[04:09] <weyllor> hello
[04:10] <Trunkz> then do sudo apt-get update, then sudo apt-get install wine
[04:10] <Trunkz> frogzoo, what do u mean by autonegotiation
[04:10] <weyllor> is there any software that could connect the GSM mobile?
[04:10] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell darkhorizon about automatix
[04:10] <gerhard> how to "add the wine repo"?
[04:10] <gnomefreak> darkhorizon: read your pm
[04:10] <orbin> wisitvenita: packages.ubuntu.com >file search
[04:10] <arrick> how do I check to see what partition my os is on in ubuntu
[04:10] <arrick> ?
[04:11] <darkhorizon> got it, thanks.
[04:11] <darkhorizon> i don't use it, was just curious :)
[04:11] <orbin> arrick: sudo fdisk -l
[04:11] <liable> arrick: type 'mount'
[04:11] <arrick> monrn orbin
[04:11] <orbin> 'lo
[04:12] <Trunkz> frogzoo, i've gotta close xchat now.. dapper's installing, i'll be on irc on the laptop with the same nick
[04:12] <Trunkz> okey..
[04:12] <orbin> arrick: actually, fdisk isn't all that useful
[04:13] <arrick> ok
[04:13] <gerhard> trunkz?
[04:13] <Frogzoo> orbin: heresy
[04:13] <orbin> for tha job.  liable''s right
[04:13] <arrick> orbin, you good with permissions?
[04:13] <Trunkz> yea gerhard?
[04:13] <gerhard> how does that work with wine repo etc
[04:13] <Trunkz> okey
[04:13] <gerhard> i cannot follow you^^
[04:13] <gerhard> using linux since yesterday
[04:13] <Kolan> how do I install Gnome so I can use the Synaptic pack. manager?
[04:13] <orbin> Frogzoo: for the job Frogzoo, for the job :)
[04:13] <Trunkz> firstly, u need to get the official wine repo from www.winehq.com
[04:13] <arrick> sudo aptitude install gnome-desktop
[04:13] <Frogzoo> Trunkz: try assigning an ip manually, like so " /sbin/ifconfig eth0 192.168.10.12 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 192.168.10.255" & see if you can ping things
[04:14] <orbin> arrick: just ask the channel.  i'm liable :) to get it wrong again
[04:14] <Trunkz> gah.. cgi:irc is slightly slow, lemme go download mIRC.. gerhard, wait for a few minutes okay? :)
[04:14] <gerhard> ok
[04:14] <arrick> Kolan,
[04:14] <arrick> ^^
[04:14] <Trunkz> frogzoo, i'll be back in a minute or two
[04:14] <Neurosis> is there any kind of gui program that you can use to spy on people that are logged in to your server?
[04:14] <[chris] > random
[04:14] <Frogzoo> Neurosis: ethereal might be worth a look
[04:15] <Neurosis> i think i have that installed. i thought that was just a packet sniffer
[04:15] <Neurosis> maybe i should read the docs more
[04:15] <Neurosis> :P
[04:15] <Frogzoo> Neurosis: however snooping on wire traffic may not be legal according to you country's wiretapping laws
[04:15] <gerhard> is it possble to wardrive with those centrino stuff?
[04:15] <vero_> ola
[04:16] <Neurosis> im not looking to snoop on the traffic, just what a user is doing on my box
[04:16] <vero_> como te llmas
[04:16] <liable> gerhard: as long as kismet supports it.
[04:16] <orbin> anyone had wmv files play weirdly in totem?
[04:16] <gerhard> mh
[04:16] <weyllor> is there any software that could connect the GSM mobile?
[04:16] <trunkz> okay
[04:16] <gerhard> okay
[04:16] <trunkz> right, thats sorted
[04:16] <gerhard> now where do i click? download?
[04:16] <trunkz> hmm
[04:16] <trunkz> i'll tell u what
[04:16] <vero_> yo no entinendo ingles
[04:16] <trunkz> lemme get u a nice lil guide :o
[04:16] <trunkz> helped me quite alot
[04:17] <gnomefreak> !es
[04:17] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:17] <vero_> en espaol
[04:17] <trunkz> gerhard, http://www.easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu
[04:17] <trunkz> :)
[04:17] <trunkz> right frogzoo, what was it that you wanted me to do next? :)
[04:18] <[chris] > random!
[04:18] <wwalker> Hi, have no web access as just installed Ubuntu from scratch.  X didn't work.  What's the command for the X config tool?
[04:18] <Frogzoo> trunkz: 1st check in /etc/network/interfaces that HOSTNAME is the machine's hostname
[04:19] <intuos_pen> wwalker: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:19] <Frogzoo> trunkz: I think currently it's the hostname of the other machine
[04:19] <wwalker> intuos_pen: thx
[04:19] <trunkz> okey.. one sec * runs off to machine *
[04:19] <intuos_pen> wwalker: no problem.
[04:20] <Kolan> arrick: it dosn't work, complaining about depenecies
[04:20] <vero_> ola com estas
[04:20] <tonyyarusso> !es
[04:20] <trunkz> frogzoo, hostname isnt shown in *./interfaces
[04:20] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:20] <susanan> cmo t llamas?
[04:20] <gerhard_> i think it crashed
[04:20] <_jason> !es
[04:20] <arrick> help: i added t gui so I could view users, and am trying to figure out hwo to set up my ftp server so I can edit the files, I have read the man proftpd, as well as everything on the site i downloaded from, please help.
[04:20] <Frogzoo> trunkz: pls pastebin /etc/network/interfaces
[04:20] <gerhard_> wheres crtl alt del
[04:21] <trunkz> okey..
[04:21] <trunkz> this might take a while :P
[04:21] <Frogzoo> trunkz: understood
[04:21] <gerhard_> that was a joke
[04:21] <darkhorizon> lol
[04:22] <intuos_pen> question: is it possible to compile a kernel on another faster pc instead of on a slower notebook to create kernel-image debs and kernel headers debs? if so, how do i also update /lib/modules in case the new kernel seeks it?
[04:22] <intuos_pen> any url discussing matters like that is welcome. thanks!
[04:23] <gerhard_> ah now it works
[04:23] <sfar> in cant see any controls in the mplayer-plugin in firefox.. "show controls" is selected
[04:23] <Boris> hi all!
[04:23] <arrick> if i am running a server, and dont run any programs other than ftp/apache, is it safe to remove programs like abiword?
[04:24] <gerhard_> gerhard@Gerhard:~$ sudo apt-get install wine
[04:24] <gerhard_> E: Konnte Lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock nicht bekommen - open (11 Die Ressource ist zur Zeit nicht verfgbar)
[04:24] <gerhard_> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[04:24] <Boris> i am using a pree configured version of ubunto for vmware...   what is root pass_
[04:24] <Boris> *?
[04:24] <Frogzoo> arrick: uninstall them with 'sudo dpkg --purge'
[04:24] <Lorvija> gerhard ur not  root (:
[04:24] <patrick52222> i get this error when trying to install theb linux nvidia drivers, please look here   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11595
[04:24] <_jason> ubotu: tell Boris about root
[04:24] <Lorvija> gerhard whops.. i'm blind (:
[04:24] <gerhard_> but i used sudo
[04:24] <Frogzoo> arrick: but be careful what you're removing isn't critical to operation
[04:25] <arrick> Frogzoo, do that or is synaptic ok?
[04:25] <Frogzoo> arrick: that's fine
[04:25] <arrick> ok
[04:25] <arrick> thanks
[04:25] <gerhard_> ah now its ok
[04:25] <gerhard_> synaptic was still running
[04:25] <gerhard_> its downloading wine now
[04:25] <gerhard_> :D
[04:26] <arrick> Frogzoo, i loaded the gui, cause I cant access the ftp share with my user, but i can access it useing ftp as username, if i use my usr name , the thing opens in my home dir
[04:26] <green_earz> intuos_pen: yes you can build compile the kernel image on another ubuntu cp and then tranfer the image and install it with dpkg -i
[04:26] <Frogzoo> trunkz: your /etc/network/interfaces should just be 2 lines
[04:26] <Frogzoo> trunkz: auto eth0
[04:26] <Frogzoo> trunkz: iface eth0 inet dhcp
[04:27] <vero_> hello
[04:27] <gerhard_> hi
[04:27] <patrick52222> i get this error when trying to install theb linux nvidia drivers, please look here   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11595
[04:27] <vero_> ola
[04:28] <green_earz> intuos_pen: you should not have any problem with /lib/modules which will be for the local machine
[04:28] <intuos_pen> green_earz: will i not have a problem on the /lib/modules path on my laptop since i believe it will not be consistent with the installed kernel from the remote pc.
[04:28] <intuos_pen> green_earz: hmnn.. intresting.
[04:28] <arrick> what is also-base for?
[04:28] <Frogzoo> arrick: alsa-base is for the alsa sound driver
[04:28] <vero_> arrick
[04:29] <arrick> ok thanks
[04:29] <arrick> vero_, whats up
[04:29] <Bambino> !codec
[04:29] <ubotu> Bambino: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:29] <arrick> Frogzoo, so if i have no sound card, i can remove it?
[04:29] <Bambino> !codecs
[04:29] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories
[04:29] <vero_> es espais
[04:29] <arrick> !es
[04:29] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:29] <intuos_pen> green_earz: would you know a method of creating sort of like lib_modules debs so i can dpkg -i it also to make it consistent with the kernel? (if such method exist).
[04:30] <patrick52222> i get this error when trying to install the linux nvidia drivers, please look here   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11595
[04:30] <Frogzoo> arrick: absolutely
[04:30] <vero_> is ispais
[04:30] <vero_> espaol
[04:30] <Frogzoo> !es
[04:30] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:30] <wwalker> What is the command for network config (text mode) ?
[04:30] <Frogzoo> vero_: please pay attention
[04:30] <vero_> ola
[04:30] <arrick> I'm getting rid of a lot of crap that loads with the default desktop, so i can actually run a ""little"" quicker
[04:31] <vero_> yo es paol
[04:31] <intuos_pen> patrick52222: have you installed linux-tree, build-essential, kernel-package, gcc, libncurses5, libncurses5-dev, libqt3-mt-dev on your machine?
[04:31] <Seveas> vero_, #ubuntu-es
[04:31] <theripper> where can i look to see what driver is installed for my video card?
[04:31] <orbin> thankyou. we told him like 4 times
[04:31] <intuos_pen> green_earz: i hope you won't find my question annoying.
[04:31] <patrick52222> intuos_pen: i dont know
[04:31] <Boris> this is very strange....
[04:32] <trunkz> frogzoo, nvm.. that machine is weird
[04:32] <arrick> hey Frogzoo if you remove alsa, you remove ubuntu guis as well, too bad
[04:32] <trunkz> I'll just put windows back, and let the sister beat the living jebus out of it
[04:32] <intuos_pen> patrick52222: yay, you should know. nvidia i think needs some sources to have their driver compiled with your kernel.
[04:32] <patrick52222> intuos_pen: ok which ones do i need to get
[04:32] <trunkz> I'll be moving this laptop to dapper tonight, once I can make sure that ndiswrapper works with the wifi drivers for this machine :D
[04:33] <theripper> where can i look to see what driver is installed for my video card?
[04:33] <Frogzoo> trunkz: if you're using autonegotiation, that easily explains the wierdness - autonegotiation is very often more a hindrance than a help
[04:33] <intuos_pen> intuos_pen: those packages i mentioned a while ago.
[04:33] <Frogzoo> theripper: /var/log/messages
[04:33] <theripper> ty
[04:33] <got2b3d> I successfully compiled nvidia drivers, but when I plug my monitor into the graphics card I get the Red, Green, Blue horizontal stripes.  What am I doing wrong?
[04:34] <arrick> got2b3d, you werent successful then
[04:34] <intuos_pen> intuos_pen: those are actually a prerequisite of compiling a kernel, i think it won't be bad to install them all so your nvidia driver could happily compile a module for you and also in case the need for recompiling the kernel arises.
[04:35] <freestone> send ip  test
[04:35] <intuos_pen> ubuntu with automatix will make windows obsolete.
[04:35] <arrick> !automatix
[04:35] <ubotu> from memory, automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[04:35] <got2b3d> arrick, my graphics card is in my agp slot but it doesn't register in xorg.conf.  How can I detect it?
[04:36] <intuos_pen> ubotu: i agree.
[04:36] <ubotu> intuos_pen: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:36] <arrick> got2b3d, dont know, ask channel
[04:36] <eugman> !rar
[04:36] <ubotu> rar is, like, totally, a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[04:36] <freestone> what's channel
[04:36] <freestone> ?
[04:36] <arrick> hey everybody, do I need bot apt, and aptitude?
[04:36] <arrick> both
[04:36] <Frogzoo> got2b3d: lspci - what's it say the card is? then install the right driver
[04:36] <arrick> freeflying-ibook, here
[04:36] <green_earz> intuos_pen: all ok , the question about the /lib/modules for the kernel i can be certain, to check pop into #debian or put a post on ubuntu mailing list. but i think that if you biuld a kernel image on a different ubuntu box and tranfer it. you should not have any problem
[04:36] <intuos_pen> ubotu: for now, will teach myself to be contented with apt-get. i didn't know automatix would be risky.
[04:36] <ubotu> I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, intuos_pen
[04:37] <netman1> Hi All. Using Breezy. Just after I using ssh-ask-pass, a gnome applet named wnck-applet goes on tilt (98% cpu usage) untill I kill it. Someone got an idea on where to look?
[04:37] <Frogzoo> arrick: best leave aptitude alone ;)
[04:37] <arrick> ok
[04:37] <got2b3d> Frogzoo, I have the correct drivers.
[04:37] <intuos_pen> green_earz: thanks very much.
[04:37] <green_earz> np
[04:37] <patrick52222> intuos_pen: ok i now have those installed
[04:37] <wwalker> I've got X up, so I went to System->Administration->Network Tools.  I can select eth0 in the pulldown, but Configure is grayed out.  I'm root, what gives?
[04:38] <intuos_pen> ubotu: you told me that automatix is unsafe. that changed my mind to be content with apt-get.
[04:38] <ubotu> intuos_pen: what are you talking about?
[04:38] <dabaR_> !ubotu
[04:38] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[04:38] <arrick> gnomefreak, so do I was was wondering if I could remove apt-get
[04:38] <intuos_pen> ubotu: so i won't be looking for automatix yet.
[04:38] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, intuos_pen
[04:38] <arrick> withou killing system
[04:38] <Frogzoo> arrick: NO!!
[04:38] <liable> arrick: no, you cant
[04:38] <eugman> !ace
[04:38] <gnomefreak> arrick: i wouldnt get rid of eitehr
[04:38] <ubotu> Uncompressing .ace files is possible when you install the unace package, which is in the universe repository. After installing it you should be able to uncompress .ace files with the File Roller and arK.
[04:38] <arrick> intuos_pen, ubotu is a bot
[04:38] <intuos_pen> ubotu: thanks.
[04:38] <ubotu> de nada, intuos_pen
[04:38] <eugman> Thank you ubotu!
[04:38] <arrick> ok guys
[04:38] <arrick> thanks
[04:39] <intuos_pen> arrick: no i'm a borg.
[04:39] <patrick52222> intuos_pen: ok i now have those installed, wat do i do know
[04:39] <dabaR_> ?:-/
[04:39] <dabaR_> :P
[04:39] <arrick> morning dabaR_
[04:39] <intuos_pen> patrick52222: rerun the nvidia installer.
[04:40] <Sh4d0x> hii :D
[04:41] <arrick> !bot snack
[04:41] <ubotu> thanks arrick :)
[04:41] <wwalker> anyone know the text mode network config tool command?
[04:41] <wwalker> or where ubuntu puts the eth0 config file?
[04:41] <Frogzoo> wwalker: ppoeconf ?
[04:42] <liable> wwalker: ifconfig and /etc/network/interfaces
[04:42] <intuos_pen> wwalker: you must edit /etc/network/interfaces
[04:42] <dabaR_> morning, arrick
[04:42] <pebs> are repositories down or is it just me??
[04:42] <wwalker> liable, thx
[04:43] <got2b3d> is it possible to detect what card is in my agp slot from command line?
[04:43] <Frogzoo> got2b3d: sudo lspci
[04:43] <darkhorizon> pebs... workin for me
[04:43] <wwalker> intuos_pen: thx
[04:43] <arrick> pebs change your repos to ei for better support, instead of us
[04:43] <pebs> darkhorizon, ok, thnx, damn!
[04:43] <intuos_pen> wwalker: thank liable too, he/she has a more complete answer. :)
[04:44] <theripper> anyone help a noob install a ati driver?
[04:44] <patrick52222> intuos_pen: no i still get the same error
[04:44] <Frogzoo> !tell theripper about ati
[04:44] <Frogzoo> theripper: which vid card?
[04:44] <eugman> Hey where would my mysql database be stored for my webserver on this computer?
[04:44] <intuos_pen> patrick52222: gah.
[04:44] <wwalker> intuos_pen: thanked liable first.
[04:44] <theripper> mobility 9000
[04:44] <Frogzoo> eugman: locate FILENAME
[04:44] <intuos_pen> wwalker: :)
[04:44] <pebs> arrick, i've got archive.ubuntu.com repos, are they ok?
[04:44] <Frogzoo> !tell theripper about fglrx
[04:45] <Frogzoo> theripper: enable the seveas repo & install the fglrx driver
[04:45] <Frogzoo> !tell theripper about seveas
[04:45] <eugman> And it's be named the same physically as internally?
[04:45] <theripper> thank you
[04:45] <Bambino> One question guys, I am thinking about running ubuntu live to crack the admin pass for windows on this computer.
[04:45] <Bambino> Is it possible?
[04:46] <Sh4d0x> Bambino: yes :)
[04:46] <ompaul> !offtopic
[04:46] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[04:46] <Frogzoo> Bambino: don't think the live cd has the necessary tools - but there's other live cds will do this
[04:46] <intuos_pen> you nvidia and ati owners never had it so easy while i labor to make my unichrome based vid card just to run with dri enabled.
[04:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> Frogzoo: john can be installed
[04:46] <apokryphos> Frogzoo: there is?
[04:46] <wwalker> Ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0.
[04:47] <intuos_pen> wwalker: is that an error message?
[04:47] <arrick> pu ei. in fron of them pebs
[04:47] <arrick> put even
[04:48] <intuos_pen> arrick: keyboard problems there?
[04:48] <arrick> hey pebs join #arrick for a great sources list
[04:48] <arrick> yeah
[04:48] <intuos_pen> arrick: wow sources.list!
[04:48] <apokryphos> arrick: pastebins are good =)
[04:48] <arrick> intuos_pen, Im goign ebtween my laptop and my server
[04:48] <intuos_pen> arrick: pastebin ?
[04:48] <patrick52222> i get this error when trying to install theb linux nvidia drivers, please look here   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11595
[04:48] <Frogzoo> apokryphos: amongst others: http://www.petri.co.il/forgot_administrator_password.htm
[04:48] <arrick> nah private channel
[04:48] <arrick> but I can pastebin it
[04:49] <intuos_pen> patrick52222: youre back to square one.
[04:49] <arrick> !pastebin
[04:49] <ubotu> I heard pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[04:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> gnomefreak: i dont want to install you :)
[04:49] <wwalker> intuos_pen: yes, sorry, someone walked in, and pointed out my typo in /etc/network/interfaces (etho versus eth0)
[04:49] <Frogzoo> apokryphos: this looks pretty cool: http://www.studyexam4less.com/mepis.asp
[04:50] <intuos_pen> wwalker: yeah, that would be eth(zero).
[04:50] <apokryphos> Frogzoo: mepis can do it?
[04:50] <m_0_r_0_n> how is it possible to configure gdm?
[04:50] <patrick52222> intuos_pen: wat do i do
[04:50] <apokryphos> m_0_r_0_n: configure what about it exactly?
[04:51] <intuos_pen> m_0_r_0_n: System > Administration > Login Screen Setup ?
[04:51] <Bambino> Frogzoo, may I pvt you? If you know about my question I asked earlier about admin password. I am in offtopic but no one answers
[04:51] <arrick> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11597 intuos_pen
[04:51] <ibob63> my installation of suse linux crashed - so i'm moving over to ubuntu. I have recovered my home directory but don't know how to restore the evolution mail. Can anyone tell me how to do this?
[04:51] <got2b3d> i have an old SiS card in my agp slot, 630/730.  I have followed volumes of instructions to get it working but after every time I plug my monitor in and I get rgb horizontal stripes.  What am I doing wrong?
[04:52] <intuos_pen> patrick52222: i'm running out of solution to your problem. you can try downloading the latest drivers again, reboot your computer and reinstall the newly downloaded drivers.
[04:52] <plbgnr> liable can you help me with setting sharing internet connection? I have one box connected to internet through ra0 (wifi pci card) and want to connect other through rj45 ...eth0 I used steps like http://pastebin.com/644160 ...it doesn't work :(
[04:52] <orbin> ibob63: copy your ~/.evolution folder over?
[04:52] <Sh4d0x> does some of you have xgl installed?
[04:52] <Frogzoo> apokryphos: check the link
[04:52] <apokryphos> Sh4d0x: /msg ubotu xgl
[04:52] <m_0_r_0_n> my colleque has fucked up gdm. It s not possible to open the menu
[04:52] <ibob63> orbin: I've done that but evolution just goes to the configuration wizard
[04:53] <orbin> m_0_r_0_n: language please
[04:53] <intuos_pen> arrick: darn, patrick52222's text keeps on appearing when i click the middle mouse button. i'll try again.
[04:53] <Sh4d0x> apokryphos: ?
[04:53] <ibob63> should I click through this and then overwrite the new files with the old?
[04:53] <apokryphos> Sh4d0x: type that
[04:53] <intuos_pen> arrick: saw it, looks interesting.
[04:53] <Sh4d0x> apokryphos: thnx
[04:54] <orbin> ibob63: worth a shot
[04:54] <m_0_r_0_n> orbin, what part of the sentence didnt you understand?
[04:54] <mlask> hi again. i would like to know on which files the gtk-theme-switch2 application opperates. it looks like there are two different config files for gtk themes... but where are they? i know about one stored in ~/.gtkrc-1.2-gnome2, but it looks like gtk-theme-switch don't touch it. So which files does it use?
[04:54] <apokryphos> Frogzoo: fairly elementary question perhaps, but what do they imply by "password hash" -- same as password?
[04:54] <intuos_pen> arrick: i hope no stampede of spywares when i apt-get update.
[04:54] <intuos_pen> arrick: just kidding.
[04:54] <orbin> m_0_r_0_n: colleque
[04:54] <arrick> nope
[04:54] <arrick> I loaded the wrong one
[04:54] <intuos_pen> arrick: yay.
[04:55] <arrick> change anything that begins with ei
[04:55] <m_0_r_0_n> colleaque or coworker
[04:55] <mlask> ehh... there is really 718 persons in that room? can't be true ;)
[04:55] <arrick> typo, change anything that begins with us to ei
[04:55] <m_0_r_0_n> colleague
[04:55] <orbin> m_0_r_0_n: ah, thanks for clearing that up
[04:55] <nickrud> ibob63, the account information for evolution is not kept in .evolution, but under .gconf Just how they connect up with the stuff under .evolution is another question...
[04:56] <Frogzoo> apokryphos: if you can dump the passwd hashes, you can use john to crack
[04:56] <intuos_pen> arrick: have you ever tried changing the hotkey configuration of your notebook?
[04:56] <grogoreo> hi
[04:56] <apokryphos> Frogzoo: interesting, I may be trying that out. I think I might actually even have a mepis cd lying around
[04:57] <ibob63> nickrud: that will explain it then.
[04:57] <plbgnr> ...or can anybody help with tutorial on page http://wiki.clug.org.za/wiki/Sharing_an_Internet_Connection  ...problem is: should interface on which runs dhcp server assigned ip address manually?
[04:57] <intuos_pen> arrick: i wonder where the breezy badger puts the hotkey.conf
[04:57] <apokryphos> Frogzoo: interesting to note that the password cracking is simpler/straight-forward for NT/2000
[04:57] <arrick> yeah
[04:57] <orbin> mlask: tis
[04:57] <arrick> hang on
[04:57] <grogoreo> is there an application that will let me change certain ID3 tags for MP3s? Like I want to change all of the Artists and Album names for a group of songs. Then I can change the title manually
[04:57] <got2b3d> I don't get it.  I did $sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and it detects my graphics card but it still won't work.
[04:57] <Enchanter> which package is need to 'man -k fopen'?
[04:57] <m_0_r_0_n> dpkg-reconfigure gdm helped me out
[04:57] <intuos_pen> plbgnr: i believe you must assign a static ip for a dhcp server.
[04:58] <juice> is there any easy way to change speakers scheme from 2 to 5.1 in ubuntu?
[04:58] <apokryphos> grogoreo: juk and amarok use a pretty decent tag manager -- taglib. JuK has slightly more features for bulk tag manipulation, but really they're both excellent.
[04:58] <apokryphos> juice: alsamixer in terminal
[04:58] <grogoreo> apokryphos, thanks man
[04:58] <juice> apokryphos: yes, thats what i was doing in debian. but no graphical way to do it ?
[04:59] <Frogzoo> Enchanter: manpages-dev
[04:59] <apokryphos> juice: it's semi-graphical :P. KDE has a GUI front-end to alsamixer -- kmix. I presume GNOME might have one too, but not quite sure.
[04:59] <plbgnr> intuos_pen: and other parameters?
[04:59] <apokryphos> juice: look around in the Settings menu
[04:59] <juice> apokryphos:  i already tried, couldnt find it though
[05:00] <liable> plbgnr: never used dnsmaq, but ipmasq usually "just works" (TM) or you can try shorewall
[05:00] <green_earz> intuos_pen: i just rememberd when you install a kernel image the /lib/modules for that kernel is part of the kernel install process,
[05:00] <Enchanter> Frogzoo, thanks a lot, I will try it
[05:00] <intuos_pen> plbgnr: that needs a book. TCP/IP Network Administration by Craig Hunt, (published by Oreilly) get the 3rd edition.
[05:00] <intuos_pen> green_earz: then, all is well. that is a very cool info green_earz.
[05:00] <ompaul> juice, try gnome-volume-control
[05:01] <apokryphos> that's it
[05:01] <green_earz> np
[05:01] <grogoreo> apokryphos, would you know of a KDE program for music organisation? I don't really want to install the kde libs for just a program
[05:01] <intuos_pen> green_earz: so there's no really reason to worry. thanks man, you save me alot of headache trying to wait for a kernel to compile on this slow ECS G320 notebook.
[05:01] <Frogzoo> grogoreo: you tried amarok ?
[05:02] <apokryphos> grogoreo: a gnome one, I presume you mean :P. I'm not sure, but there are other GTK-based players (/msg ubotu players). Perhaps one of them can do it.
[05:02] <grogoreo> Frogzoo, amarok is KDE isn't it? That's what it says in synaptic
[05:02] <green_earz> intuos_pen: its like how a kernel install set grub up for you
[05:02] <apokryphos> grogoreo: though IMO having kdelibs installed is pretty handy (not too large, either).
[05:02] <Frogzoo> grogoreo: amarok has it's own kde libs - so runs on both
[05:02] <grogoreo> apokryphos, sorry yes a gnome one
[05:02] <intuos_pen> green_earz: :)
[05:02] <green_earz> np
[05:02] <grogoreo> ok, I'll give kde libs a go with amarok
[05:02] <apokryphos> Frogzoo: nope, it uses the same kde libs. You can run all KDE programs in gnome, however.
[05:03] <Frogzoo> apokryphos: ah, good to know
[05:04] <juice> ompaul: thanks, it was there
[05:04] <liable> plbgnr: purge dnsmasq, set up eth0 so its for the lan, then install ipmasq
[05:04] <Frogzoo> anyone else noticed that wine is totally borked after enabling prelink?
[05:04] <liable> plbgnr: should work..
[05:04] <juice> ubuntu is easier than windows, really.
[05:05] <apokryphos> hm, I wouldn't really agree -- not just yet.
[05:05] <green_earz> intuos_pen: when you compile the kernel use the option -- initrd   to make life easyer
[05:05] <plbgnr> liable:thanks i'll try
[05:05] <apokryphos> but it's certainly far more powerful, secure, efficient ;-)
[05:05] <juice> well, maybe not for EVERYTHING, but for some things.
[05:05] <apokryphos> sure
[05:06] <Frogzoo> apokryphos: I disagree - once you've got things the way you like, ubuntu is pretty close to zero maintenance
[05:06] <liable> plbgnr: and the other box, give it eth0's ip for gateway.. going to bed, gl.
[05:06] <apokryphos> Frogzoo: if you don't change anything. Of course part of the problem is getting there (which you can't really ignore), and I don't know about you but there's never a week where my desktop setup is static
[05:07] <Frogzoo> the endless regressions with building doze installs is barmy
[05:07] <apokryphos> it's always changing, and I'm sure it's the same with many. That's the thing with GNU/Linux -- once you learn it it's fun to tweak =)
[05:07] <juice> apokryphos: i'm just shocked, becouse last time i installed linux with X's it was redhat few years ago and it was nightmare
[05:07] <apokryphos> juice: indeed; GNU/Linux on the desktop has changed dramatically in the last few years
[05:07] <apokryphos> and it's not near to stopping =)
[05:08] <Frogzoo> juice: I'm apalled that newbs can these days install linux without the X learning curve =)
[05:08] <healot> thanks to the kernel hotplug/usbfs...
[05:08] <gridblock> i cant play audio files and xmms just freezes when i try!! :(
[05:08] <juice> Frogzoo: not really a newbie, i'm strange person ;) i work as linux admin for many years, but i was strictly doing server bussiness only
[05:08] <apokryphos> gridblock: xmms pretty much sucks
[05:09] <gridblock> how come?
[05:09] <apokryphos> gridblock: but to play mp3s etc type /msg ubotu mp3
[05:09] <apokryphos> gridblock: since there are far superior players available
[05:09] <Frogzoo> juice: nice
[05:09] <healot> nay, apokryphos
[05:09] <juice> Frogzoo: i'm just very lazy, thats why i used windows. now i'm still lazy and i started using ubunt
[05:09] <orbin> gridblock: change the output plugin to esound or alsa
[05:09] <juice> ubuntu
[05:09] <apokryphos> ay
[05:09] <AlexC_> !dapper
[05:09] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[05:09] <AlexC_> !update
[05:09] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, AlexC_
[05:10] <Frogzoo> juice: I'm lazy too, so I prefer ubuntu atm as it suits my work ethic
[05:10] <AlexC_> !upgrade
[05:10] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade.  Upgrading to dapper (remember it may break). Please test the dist-upgrader -> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html.
[05:10] <AlexC_> thats the one :)
[05:10] <apokryphos> AlexC_: please /msg the bot to investigate :)
[05:10] <healot> superior doesn't mean sleek or lightweight
[05:10] <AlexC_> oh sorry, didn't know you could do that, apokryphos
[05:10] <apokryphos> AlexC_: not a problem =)
[05:10] <Frogzoo> gridblock: install amarock & get esd setup with xine engine - you'll be agreeably surprised
[05:11] <juice> Frogzoo:  but i usually install debian in my work. it's much easier to just install 100MB base system and then add programs when they are needed
[05:11] <apokryphos> healot: xmms is unbelievably outdated. If you want a "lightweight" audio multimedia player why stop at xmms? Go straight for mpg321. Needless to say, there are other far more decent lightweight players
[05:11] <intuos_pen> darn, there's more to life than configuring linux, stick with the stable releases.
[05:11] <Cin> Good video player for AVI movies?
[05:11] <apokryphos> !players
[05:11] <ubotu> somebody said players was Audio/MP3 Players: amaroK, Banshee, Beep-media-player, JuK, Rhythmbox, XMMS ; Video players: Totem, Xine, Mplayer, VLC
[05:11] <Cin> DivX, etc.?
[05:11] <slycer> can i install the subservion system under ubuntu?
[05:11] <apokryphos> Cin: any of the ones listed there do it ;-)
[05:11] <Frogzoo> juice: is there a debian tool for pushing out debs to multiple machines?
[05:11] <Cin> Ah, I put mplayer in apt-get but no look, I'll use the GUI prog.
[05:11] <slycer> can i install the subversion system under ubuntu?
[05:11] <orbin> Cin: just get the codecs and totem-xine works fine
[05:11] <apokryphos> slycer: of course. sudo apt-get install subversion
[05:12] <healot> i like xmms simplicity... and its winamp look  alike...
[05:12] <Frogzoo> intuos_pen: +1
[05:12] <orbin> and gkrellmms just plain rocks
[05:12] <apokryphos> healot: I hear that every single time. Needless to say I think it's one of the worst ever reasons for using it still
[05:12] <intuos_pen> Frogzoo: plus one?
[05:12] <slycer> thanks
[05:12] <Frogzoo> slycer: sudo apt-get install subversion
[05:12] <Frogzoo> intuos_pen: I agree
[05:12] <apokryphos> Cin: note that you'll need to install a couple of codecs. type /msg ubotu restricted    to get instructions
[05:12] <intuos_pen> Frogzoo: oh, i thought an "offense" count. :)
[05:13] <Frogzoo> :D
[05:13] <Cin> apokryphos, okay.
[05:13] <healot> apokryphos, do I give an F about other mp3 player? xmms is rather small, i  don't prefer bulky bs :)
[05:13] <juice> Frogzoo:  i don't know, there isnt? i usualy tweak apache config, make mod_rewrite rules, tweak sql, pure-ftpd and things like this. i'm not sure how it is with pusing out debs. i know you can install many debian server on many computer at once
[05:13] <apokryphos> healot: I don't care whether you do really, either. But I will say it's very hard to substantiate using it for any logical reason other than "I just like it"
[05:13] <apokryphos> like I said, there are many other non-bulky (by all standards) audio multimedia players
[05:14] <juice> Frogzoo: its easy to write small script to apt-get automatically if you mean that
[05:14] <intuos_pen> healot: but rhythmbox is also nice. :)
[05:14] <healot> others don't do the job on the fly... xmms does...
[05:14] <Frogzoo> juice: I'm thinking anything like novell's xenworks, which is  pretty nice
[05:14] <apokryphos> healot: I find it extremely hard to believe that youv'e tried any of the others if you maintain that.
[05:14] <intuos_pen> besides, rhythmbox is similar to itunes, the trend.
[05:14] <apokryphos> s/youv'e/you've/
[05:15] <juice> Frogzoo: oh, then i don't know, i didnt try it. but there might be
[05:15] <orbin> intuos_pen: try resizing any of the columns :P
[05:15] <intuos_pen> orbin: ouch.
[05:15] <orbin> intuos_pen: i filed that bug :)
[05:15] <orbin> indeed
[05:15] <apokryphos> healot: at least use/try beep if you're going to want "the xmms look"; you won't have to deal with ugly X menus and lack of reasonable development
[05:15] <AlexC_> Should I install my ATI Graphics card drivers ( X800XT ) before I upgrade to Dapper Drake?
[05:15] <Cin> If you want Winamp use wine. ;P
[05:15] <slycer> and how i can see if the subversioning system is instaled?
[05:16] <apokryphos> AlexC_: doesn't really make much of a difference.
[05:16] <AlexC_> I will use Dapper to try XGL out
[05:16] <healot> rythmbox is another gstreamer-plugged player...
[05:16] <Frogzoo> AlexC_: complete waist of time
[05:16] <AlexC_> apokryphos, ok :)
[05:16] <green_earz> intuos_pen: when you build the kernel on the other machine do you use the /boot/config for the box you want the compile the kernel for and if so use the make oldconfig option
[05:16] <wwalker> i'm on ubuntu 6.06. Anyone know the package name for subversion?
[05:16] <apokryphos> AlexC_: /msg ubotu xgl
[05:16] <Cin> apokryphos, yeah they did sort of dump XMMS after it worked.
[05:16] <apokryphos> wwalker: dapper discussion in #ubuntu+1
[05:16] <altwizard> Please Tell me How to upgrade Breezy to flight 6 using apt-get
[05:16] <intuos_pen> green_earz: okay, i'll do that.
[05:16] <orbin> even bmp's old apparently now ... there's bmpx or audacious
[05:16] <apokryphos> Cin: precisely. There might have been a time where using it was remotely acceptable, but I'd say we were *far* past that stage ;-)
[05:17] <Frogzoo> !upgrade
[05:17] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade.  Upgrading to dapper (remember it may break). Please test the dist-upgrader -> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html.
[05:17] <Frogzoo> altwizard: be aware dapper is beta s/w - so if it breaks you get to fix it
[05:17] <altwizard> frogzoo: Yes Im aware, Thanks
[05:17] <intuos_pen> green_earz: somehow, i am very particular in tweaking the kernel. even if it's time consuming i traverse the "subdirectories" of menuconfig diligently.
[05:17] <altwizard> thanks
[05:17] <AstralJava> While talking about media players, has anyone here ever bumped into Rhythmbox glitching when switching from a song onto another?
[05:18] <intuos_pen> green_earz: trying to find that option that i do not need. (but it also managed to screw me several times).
[05:18] <healot> that's really the gstreamer plug fault
[05:18] <AlexC_> apokryphos, That XGL How To does not say I need my Graphics card driver installed - is that true?
[05:18] <orbin> AstralJava: yep.  shuffle didn't shuffle
[05:18] <apokryphos> AlexC_: I doubt you can get XGL really working at all without some hardware acceleration from your graphics card
[05:18] <Frogzoo> AstralJava: dunno if it's an option, but if you can run a xine engine, use that instead
[05:19] <AlexC_> apokryphos, so once i've updated to Dapper, I install my graphics drivers then try XGL?
[05:19] <Bambino> !chntpw
[05:19] <ubotu> Bambino: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:19] <AstralJava> orbin: In my case it was audible when you were listening to, say, live albums where one song just flows onto another without gaps. With Rhythmbox there was a gap with a glitch.
[05:20] <AstralJava> Frogzoo: I'm not sure either. I will check again when using Dapper, now with Breezy I've settled with XMMS.
[05:20] <orbin> AstralJava: rhythmbox wasn't gapless for me either
[05:20] <healot> Bambino, system administration (multiverse)
[05:20] <apokryphos> AlexC_: if you want to, but know that XGL is buggy on Dapper, and Dapper is buggy/technically-unstable. =)
[05:20] <apokryphos> AlexC_: best place to get help with it though should be #ubuntu-xgl
[05:20] <Bambino> healot, Oh ok. thanks ! : )
[05:20] <AstralJava> orbin: Okay, thanks. Good to hear it wasn't just my setup.
[05:20] <AlexC_> ok, thanks - i'll try there
[05:20] <Frogzoo> AstralJava: amarok with esd & xine engine is just stunning
[05:20] <Bambino> healot, cause if i understand it, you are telling me to download system administration? :)
[05:21] <healot> Bambino, sure, why not?
[05:21] <AstralJava> Frogzoo: I might try that sometimes. I had issues with KDE looks, but I guess it's time to fight them off. :)
[05:21] <Bambino> healot, Wasn't sure if thats what you meant :P
[05:21] <Frogzoo> AstralJava: amarok just sits in the tool bar - I just use hotkeys for everything
[05:21] <healot> neither am I :)
[05:22] <intuos_pen> Bambino: i understand "system administration" as the category.
[05:22] <Cin> Oh, I already have the Noatun codecs. I didn't bother trying it because I thought it played the sound out of sink on some music videos I've tried. Plays this DivX video fine, though. Good stuff.
[05:22] <apokryphos> Frogzoo: what's quite nice now is the new katapult which can also select tracks in amarok perfectly
[05:22] <arrick> im back
[05:22] <AstralJava> Frogzoo: Well that's good then, I use that toolbar plugin for XMMS too, never have the window on really.
[05:22] <apokryphos> no need to ever bring it up, though I do like it; aesthetically pleasing :P
[05:22] <juice> will NTFS be ever writable under linux ? it seems its mounted ( rw ) but i can't write there anything
[05:22] <apokryphos> Frogzoo: should work just fine in gnome too. sudo apt-get install katapult, then alt+f2 -> katapult. From there, alt+space
[05:23] <ESPOiG> wat program can i use to make an mp3 music cd
[05:23] <Frogzoo> !captive
[05:23] <ubotu> I heard captive is a project to use windows NTFS drivers under linux. It does not work properly with Ubuntu.
[05:23] <gridblock_> any good app i should have?
[05:23] <intuos_pen> ESPOiG: cdrecord.
[05:23] <arrick> juice writing to ntfs very very bad
[05:23] <apokryphos> juice: writing to NTFS is not supported, because, well, it's not OSS. Tough to get the journalling right, and personally I doubt there are many people trying anymore
[05:23] <Cin> apokryphos, so what's a good music player that has a media library and simple tiny skins like Winamp?
[05:23] <ESPOiG> intuos_pen: ty
[05:23] <Frogzoo> juice: you can use captive ^^^ or Paragon's ntfs, which is same thing
[05:23] <slycer> where i can find the package subversion?
[05:23] <intuos_pen> ESPOiG: hey, that would be incomplete.
[05:23] <Frogzoo> slycer: multiverse probly
[05:23] <slycer> i have tried sudo apt-get install subservion
[05:24] <slycer> i have tried sudo apt-get install subversion
[05:24] <intuos_pen> ESPOiG: assuming you already have the mp3s.
[05:24] <Frogzoo> gridblock_: amarok, project, ooo2, ff1.5
[05:24] <apokryphos> Cin: personally I only ever use JuK and amaroK. amaroK mostly, but I recommend JuK to people who want a slightly more lightweight player. It's not so much for skin-aficionados though :P.
[05:24] <apokryphos> noatun is
[05:24] <Seveas> !info subversion
[05:24] <intuos_pen> damn what am i talking about.
[05:24] <ubotu> subversion: (advanced version control system (aka. svn)), section devel, is optional. Version: 1.2.0-1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1255 kB, Installed size: 4728 kB
[05:24] <apokryphos> slycer: what's the problem?
[05:24] <apokryphos> slycer: what error do you get?
[05:25] <juice> Frogzoo: i think bot 'ubotu' gave information that captive is not working under ubuntu
[05:25] <Frogzoo> !tell slycer about repos
[05:25] <ESPOiG> intuos_pen: wat?
[05:25] <gridblock_> frogzoo, what is project?
[05:25] <Cin> I'll check amaroK then, apokryphos. It's not that I need something easy on the memory, I just like the visual compactness of XMMS/Winamp sort of skins, you know?
[05:25] <juice> Frogzoo: i also can't find it with apt-cache search captive, but maybe i have bad repos
[05:25] <Frogzoo> gridblock_: gant charts
[05:25] <gridblock_> frogzoo, what is 0002 and ff1.5 ?
[05:25] <intuos_pen> ESP0iG: just what exactly you mean by creating mp3 cd's?
[05:25] <Frogzoo> juice: no, it's not in the repos - as you need a native ntfs dll
[05:25] <apokryphos> Cin: I wanted the exact same when I started out; what you'll probably find out is that it's ok (and better now, IMO) for players to be different to winamp :D
[05:26] <juice> apokryphos: so i guess it microsoft fault :)
[05:26] <Frogzoo> !tell gridblock_ about ooo2
[05:26] <apokryphos> juice: of course
[05:26] <Frogzoo> !tell gridblock_ about ff1.5
[05:26] <Frogzoo> !tell gridblock_ about azureus
[05:26] <altwizard> Im getting "An error occurred while loading or saving configuration information for update-notifier. Some of your configuration settings may not work properly"
[05:26] <Frogzoo> !tell gridblock_ about frostwire
[05:26] <ESPOiG> intuos_pen: well i have a mp3/cd head unit in my car... so i want to make a cd with mp3 format for playin within my car apon this head unit
[05:26] <Engla> I need a program to send SMS via my mobile phone.. write them in ubuntu, send via my phone
[05:26] <intuos_pen> anyone here knows the location of hotkey.conf (for breezy).
[05:26] <altwizard> When clicking on the update notifier after installing dist-upgrade :S
[05:26] <slycer> Couldn't find package subversion
[05:26] <slycer> this is the error
[05:26] <Frogzoo> gridblock_: also gxine &/or vlc
[05:26] <apokryphos> slycer: pastebin your sources.list
[05:27] <Frogzoo> slycer: have you enable the multiverse repo?
[05:27] <apokryphos> Frogzoo: it's in main.
[05:27] <Frogzoo> apokryphos: k, my bad
[05:27] <intuos_pen> ESPOiG: gnomebaker would be much better.
[05:27] <altwizard> also getting, Failed to launch configuration server: Failed to execute child process "/usr/lib/gconf2/gconfd-2" (No such file or directory) , when I clicked on details for the error
[05:27] <ESPOiG> k ill try that
[05:27] <Frogzoo> slycer: your repo may be down atm
[05:27] <apokryphos> slycer: also pastebin the full output of when you enter sudo apt-get install subversion
[05:28] <apokryphos> Frogzoo: my guess is that he's still using the DVD/CD source 8)
[05:28] <ruzgar> in my ati control panel i see in opengl section dirver is "mesa3d" is it the right driver ?
[05:28] <slycer>  sudo apt-get install subversion
[05:28] <intuos_pen> btw, does breezy uses the "hotkey" program to enable the "webrowser" and "email" shortcut buttons of the notebook computers?
[05:28] <slycer> Reading package lists... Done
[05:28] <slycer> Building dependency tree... Done
[05:28] <slycer> E: Couldn't find package subversion
[05:28] <apokryphos> slycer: do not paste in here. Use a pastebin service.
[05:28] <slycer> i don't know what is a paste bin service
[05:28] <simonpca> slycer: or post on #flood
[05:28] <healot> !repos
[05:28] <altwizard> can I upgrade to dapper using apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[05:28] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[05:28] <Frogzoo> apokryphos: US repos are down 4 me atm
[05:28] <simonpca> slycer: patebin.com
[05:29] <apokryphos> altwizard: indeed. /msg ubotu upgrade
[05:29] <intuos_pen> slycer, a pastebin service is a web site where you can paste general text so you don't have to paste it inside an irc channel and cause flooding.
[05:29] <orbin> ruzgar: mesa's s/ware rendering
[05:30] <slycer> ok
[05:30] <slycer> i didn't know
[05:30] <apokryphos> slycer: it's located in /etc/apt/sources.list  btw
[05:30] <intuos_pen> slycer: http://www.pastebin.com
[05:30] <Tu13es> hmm
[05:30] <Tu13es> I downloaded the Synergy package via Synaptec
[05:30] <Tu13es> now what do I do? (linux nub)
[05:31] <ruzgar> orbin how can i test that the 3d acc works on linux
[05:31] <ruzgar> orbin i heard i program named gears test it but i cant find these program
[05:31] <erimar77> test 3d acc   in terminal type  glxgears -printfps
[05:31] <orbin> ruzgar: firstyl: glxinfo | grep direct
[05:31] <orbin> s/firstyl/firstly
[05:32] <altwizard> Is there a reason why the eagle-usb package dos'nt come pre-installed for the modem :( ?
[05:32] <ruzgar> orbin says that opengl Rendering Mesa GLX indirect
[05:32] <healot> the driver isn't "free"
[05:32] <orbin> ruzgar: sorry, it's: glxinfo | grep rendering
[05:32] <altwizard> ohh, Ok
[05:33] <apokryphos> orbin: either, really.
[05:33] <ruzgar> orbin that give only "direct rendering no"
[05:33] <apokryphos> ruzgar: then no you don't
[05:33] <intuos_pen> anyone here know how to make opera launch instead of firefox when one press the "internet" shortcut button feature on a laptop?
[05:33] <ruzgar> orbin there is nothing about opengl
[05:33] <orbin> apokryphos: i don't need the first line though :P
[05:33] <apokryphos> ruzgar: what card do you have?
[05:33] <chamo> hello all
[05:33] <chamo> what's up?
[05:34] <ruzgar> apokryphos ati 9600
[05:34] <orbin> ruzgar: if it's says no to direct rendering, you probably don't have 3d accel
[05:34] <apokryphos> ruzgar: have you installed the ATI drivers?
[05:34] <ruzgar> apokryphos i have installed the dirvers
[05:34] <ruzgar> apokryphos i see the control panel
[05:34] <intuos_pen> as i understand, one have to configure /etc/hotkey.conf to edit the configuration file for it to happen, but since /etc/hotkey.conf is non existent on breezy (even after updatedb && locate hotkey.conf).
[05:34] <apokryphos> ruzgar: I'm not entirely sure if it's the same for ATI, but for Nvidia you need to add   Option       "RenderAccel" "true"   into your xorg.conf to enable direct rendering
[05:35] <intuos_pen> i think breezy isn't using hotkey program.
[05:35] <AstralJava> intuos_pen: It could be set in System - Preferences - Keyboard shortcuts. Did you try it?
[05:35] <apokryphos> ruzgar: under Section   "Device"
[05:35] <ruzgar> apokryphos umm ok thanks i'll try
[05:35] <ubuntu> i like the feel of ubuntu better than kubuntu, is there a way to make my kubuntu install look like th e ununtu live cd?
[05:36] <orbin> apokryphos: no need for that with ati cards afaik
[05:36] <orbin> ruzgar: how'd you install the driver?
[05:36] <apokryphos> ubuntu: there are a few more "human" themes for kubuntu available at kdelook.org
[05:36] <intuos_pen> AstralJava: that would only change the key assignment not the application. :(
[05:36] <altwizard> ubuntu: I install Ubuntu First, then I used synaptic to install kubuntu-desktop
[05:36] <orbin> ubuntu: install ubuntu-desktop, then choose gnome from the sessions menu at login
[05:36] <altwizard> ubuntu: That way I have the best of both :D
[05:36] <chamo> how can I calculte the execution time of a desired program ?
[05:36] <ruzgar> orbin i have download from ati.com and meka ubuntu packages
[05:37] <apokryphos> ubuntu: oh, perhaps I misunderstood. Do you want to use KDE that looks more like ubuntu's GNOME, or do you want to use GNOME?
[05:37] <ruzgar> orbin than install with dpkg -i
[05:37] <AstralJava> intuos_pen: Okay, then it might be System - Preferences - Preferred applications, set web browser variable to Opera.
[05:37] <apokryphos> ruzgar: you should use ubuntu's ati drivers -- they should work fine.
[05:37] <orbin> ruzgar: right, did you change xorg to use fglrx?
[05:37] <ruzgar> orbin i have changed the xorg.conf "fglrx"
[05:37] <ubuntu> 1 more quick question.  I downloaded firefox into ark... extracted it to a folder inside Home.  Now what (sorry, chronic win user)
[05:37] <orbin> ruzgar: did you do that module stuff?
[05:37] <chamo> any idea ?
[05:38] <ruzgar> orbin i think i dont
[05:38] <apokryphos> ubuntu: no need to do that. You can install firefox from the repositories.
[05:38] <apokryphos> ubuntu: just alt+f2 -> adept
[05:38] <ruzgar> orbin in wiki.ubuntu that says something about it but i cant
[05:38] <orbin> ubuntu: i assume you mean 1.5
[05:38] <Frogzoo> anyone else noticed that prelinking leaves wine completely borked?
[05:39] <orbin> ruzgar: can't what?
[05:39] <ubuntu> yes, in win i would have simply run an installer.  if what can i do whit thid dled dir
[05:39] <orbin> ruzgar: those are important steps
[05:39] <AstralJava> chamo: If it won't need any user input and the program shuts itself after the execution of some task, then you can just type time <program>.
[05:39] <ruzgar> orbin that gives erro
[05:39] <intuos_pen> AstralJava: wow, you're right man.
[05:39] <orbin> !ff1.5
[05:39] <AstralJava> intuos_pen: Just a lucky guess. :)
[05:39] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[05:39] <ryanair> hi. when I try to start up Gnome, it logs me out and writes the following in ~/.xsession-errors: http://pastebin.com/644272
[05:40] <ubuntu> adept oped a window witha list of packages
[05:40] <ruzgar> orbin that says "bad luck kernel headers for target kernel not found"
[05:40] <intuos_pen> AstralJava: one would be spoiled by GUI tactics of Ubuntu.
[05:40] <orbin> ruzgar: did you install the headers?
[05:40] <intuos_pen> AstralJava: i'm so stupid not to look at the gui config tools first before trying to attack a config file. yay.
[05:40] <ruzgar> orbin one minute
[05:41] <darkhorizon> who thought that apt-get dist-upgrade would break my computer :-\
[05:41] <AstralJava> intuos_pen: Yeah, the devs of Ubuntu and GNOME are really doing a wonderful job. Oh and lets not leave KDE devs out of here either, although I don't use that one. :)
[05:41] <Frogzoo> darkhorizon: please file a bug report
[05:41] <ryanair> hi. when I try to start up Gnome, it logs me out and writes the following in ~/.xsession-errors: http://pastebin.com/644272
[05:42] <ruzgar> orbin i start to install headers i'll try it after installition
[05:42] <darkhorizon> frogzoo... i'm sure it's something i did
[05:42] <orbin> ruzgar: actually, i don't think you need to
[05:42] <daniel0815> Hi! I have problems starting xdm. It crashs imediately after start. But "startx" works fine. So I dont think its ab Xorg problem.
[05:42] <darkhorizon> i'm just complaining :D
[05:42] <intuos_pen> AstralJava, i tried using xubuntu-desktop but i find it incomplete compared to gnome-desktop. although it's lightweight.
[05:42] <ruzgar> orbin what i dont need
[05:42] <orbin> ruzgar: the headers
[05:43] <AstralJava> intuos_pen: Give it time, it's still young. I'll certainly follow that one since I very much like the theme and the feel of XFCE.
[05:43] <ruzgar> orbin but now the modules installing
[05:43] <orbin> ruzgar: did you do the command before reboot?
[05:43] <Cueball|Laptop> Hi I'm having some problems compiling on Ubuntu. I get these errors. This on alsa-lib http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11598 and this when I try to compile X-Chat 2.6.2 http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11599 Any way to fix these? Maybe adding some package that I'm missing?
[05:43] <ruzgar> orbin modules have installed without a problem
[05:44] <ryanair> hi. when I try to start up Gnome, it logs me out and writes the following in ~/.xsession-errors: http://pastebin.com/644272
[05:44] <orbin> ruzgar: bah, ok then
[05:44] <sammylvz> hi
[05:44] <orbin> ruzgar: anyway, i'm going to bed. apokryphos will help you if you need it
[05:44] <sammylvz> howz ever1
[05:44] <ruzgar> orbin i reboot the system now than i'll try thank sfor your help
[05:45] <ryanair> hi. when I try to start up Gnome, it logs me out and writes the following in ~/.xsession-errors: http://pastebin.com/644272
[05:45] <lilo> THIS CHANNEL IS BEING INDEFINATELY SHUTDOWN DUE TO ABUSE
[05:45] <sammylvz> be in love
[05:46] <sammylvz> be happy
[05:46] <sammylvz> hi
[05:46] <sammylvz> hhhhiiiii
[05:46] <ryanair> when I try to start up Gnome, it logs me out and writes the following in ~/.xsession-errors: http://pastebin.com/644272
[05:46] <Frogzoo> lilo: you're on drugs
[05:47] <sammylvz> i just talk 2 myself
[05:47] <darkhorizon> he feels competition from grub :(
[05:47] <sammylvz> how im
[05:47] <sammylvz> i think im ok
[05:47] <ryanair> could someone help me with a problem that I am having?
[05:47] <ryanair> when I try to start up Gnome, it logs me out and writes the following in ~/.xsession-errors: http://pastebin.com/644272
[05:47] <sammylvz> zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
[05:48] <sammylvz> \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\//////////////////////////////////////////
[05:48] <ryanair> ty
[05:48] <antisocial_boris> how do i share some files with a friend on my netwrok running xp?
[05:48] <Frogzoo> !tell antisocial_boris about samba
[05:48] <jadaz87> hello everyone does anyone know if the ndiswrapper package is available on ubuntu without having to connect to the internet
[05:49] <jadaz87> like after a fresh install
[05:49] <bjv> i do not think so
[05:49] <jadaz87> :-\
[05:49] <ryanair> could someone help me with a problem that I am having?
[05:49] <ryanair> when I try to start up Gnome, it logs me out and writes the following in ~/.xsession-errors: http://pastebin.com/644272
[05:49] <ruzgar> apokryphos i forget how can i test my 3d acc.
[05:50] <trey> Hello! Im trying to help a friend over msn with his ubuntu 5.10. His NIC isnt supported until kernel 2.6.14, is there a way to update it without doing all the hard stuff, just install like from apt-get but download it local and do the update from there?
[05:50] <ruzgar> apokryphos can you tell me the command
[05:50] <ruzgar> ?
[05:50] <apokryphos> ruzgar: glxinfo|grep direct
[05:50] <Cueball|Laptop> antisocial_boris, http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#accessnetworkfolderswihoutmount
[05:50] <simonpca> a+
[05:50] <intuos_pen> antisocial_boris, install samba and smbfs.
[05:50] <Frogzoo> ryanair: haven't checked the pastebin, but try moving aside .gnome & .gnome2
[05:50] <ruzgar> apokryphos thanks
[05:51] <beca> hola
[05:51] <jadaz87> !es
[05:51] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:51] <slycer> how can i install a debian package in ubuntu?
[05:51] <ryanair> Frogzoo: I do not understand.
[05:51] <apokryphos> slycer: it's not really recommended
[05:51] <Frogzoo> !deb
[05:51] <ubotu> To install a .deb file: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb  (but note that the program you want might be installable using !apt from the !repos)
[05:51] <apokryphos> slycer: what package are you trying to install?
[05:51] <Cueball|Laptop> dpkg -i pkgname.deb
[05:51] <Cin> Hmmm when I'm on GNOME and I run KDE programs, they display fine, when I'm on XFCE -- both GTK+ and Qt programs work fine, but on KDE... GTK+ programs seem to be the suck, and only half seem to be skinned by KDE. What's all that about?
[05:52] <slycer> i have downloaded the subversion package
[05:52] <apokryphos> slycer: **why**?
[05:52] <Frogzoo> ryanair: mv ~/.gnome ~/.gnome.bck ; mv ~/.gnome2 ~/.gnome2.bck
[05:52] <apokryphos> slycer: it's available from the repositories
[05:52] <slycer> what repositories?
[05:52] <Frogzoo> !repos
[05:52] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[05:52] <jadaz87> !repos
[05:52] <apokryphos> slycer: the Ubuntu repositories.
[05:52] <slycer> i don't know how to install it
[05:52] <jadaz87> !synaptic
[05:52] <apokryphos> slycer: can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list?
[05:52] <ubotu> methinks synaptic is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[05:53] <AskHL> !tell AskHL about samba
[05:53] <slycer> i have tried sudo apt-get install subserion
[05:53] <slycer> ok
[05:53] <intuos_pen> slycer: a place where a linux os retrieves packages relevant to it's version.
[05:53] <apokryphos> slycer: you can use synaptic for a prettier/more-accessible method for installing packages
[05:53] <ryanair> Frogzoo: I have .gnome2, but no .gnome
[05:53] <apokryphos> slycer: but first we have to make sure that you have the appropriate sources/repositories enabled
[05:54] <arrick> Anybody here good with proftpd?
[05:54] <Frogzoo> ryanair: k, just move it then & login
[05:54] <ryanair> okay. I'll give it a try
[05:54] <intuos_pen> no more procrastination, now i really have to modify the kernel.
[05:55] <slycer> i have posted on pastebin
[05:55] <Frogzoo> subserion != subversion
[05:55] <Cueball|Laptop> Anyone recommend Dapper Drake as a functioning desktop? Or is it still to buggy?
[05:55] <jadaz87> !dapper
[05:55] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[05:55] <apokryphos> slycer: link?
[05:55] <Frogzoo> Cueball|Laptop: dapper is beta - & standard beta provisos apply - it can break at any time
[05:56] <jadaz87> !botsnack
[05:56] <ubotu> :)
[05:56] <slycer> what link?
[05:56] <sam__> Hey
[05:56] <tamale> silly question perhaps, but how do i choose which partition the bios looks for a boot loader on?  I have two different distros on my hard drive, and want grub to be loaded from the other linux partition
[05:56] <jadaz87> he means the link to pastebin
[05:56] <sam__> I understand that Ubuntu does not use Root, however when trying to install packages it asks for the root passwords
[05:56] <sam__> and I have been told that it should be MY password
[05:56] <sam__> however it does not autheticate this
[05:56] <sam__> ..any ideas?
[05:57] <apokryphos> slycer: to the pastebin entry
[05:57] <slycer> ok
[05:57] <Frogzoo> tamale: it's set when you install grub to the mbr
[05:57] <slycer> http://pastebin.com/644300
[05:57] <tamale> Frogzoo:  How can I change this then?
[05:57] <Frogzoo> tamale: install-grub
[05:57] <Overand> Is SATA II working properly?
[05:57] <Overand> (nForce 4 Ultra chipset)
[05:57] <Cueball|Laptop> sam_, Type sudo passwd root into a console and change the root password to one of your choice. The initial password it ask's for should be the one you supplied in hte install.
[05:58] <tamale> Frogzoo:  This won't re-install in?
[05:58] <tamale> err it
[05:58] <apokryphos> slycer: ok, do this: alt+f2 -> gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:58] <AstralJava> sam__: The user you created at install time should belong to sudoers, so if you use "sudo apt-get install <something>", then it really is that user's password it is asking for. If however you're not that user, or just don't belong to sudoers group, then you have no rights to install applications.
[05:58] <Frogzoo> tamale: umm, grub-install
[05:58] <ryanair> Frogzoo: No, it didn't work. Could you check out http://pastebin.com/644308 ?
[05:58] <sam__> thank you very very much
[05:58] <Cueball|Laptop> Hi I'm having some problems compiling on Ubuntu. I get these errors. This on alsa-lib http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11598 and this when I try to compile X-Chat 2.6.2 http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11599 Any way to fix these? Maybe adding some package that I'm missing?
[05:58] <sam__> I was so close to going back to suse
[05:59] <tamale> frogzoo:  and this is a way to configure the actual mbr, then?
[05:59] <apokryphos> slycer: delete what's there and put the contents of this in  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047
[05:59] <AstralJava> sam__: Not a prob. We want all the users we can keep. :-D
[05:59] <sam__> Cheers
[05:59] <slycer> ok
[05:59] <apokryphos> slycer: no wait... you're on hoary.
[06:00] <slycer> ok :p
[06:00] <apokryphos> slycer: it's really a good idea to update to the latest stable =)
[06:00] <apokryphos> hoary is dated :P
[06:00] <apokryphos> slycer: do you have a decent Internet connection?
[06:01] <Frogzoo> ryanair: ls -l .ICEauthority
[06:01] <tamale> interesting.. I just finished an install of ubuntu 32bit, and after my first login attempt, the splash came up all garbled, I heard the login sound, but now I can't get to a virtual term and it's just stuck on a garbled splash screen.  mouse is working though.
[06:01] <slycer> yes
[06:01] <apokryphos> slycer: I recommend upgrading to breezy (the latest stable) first then
[06:01] <apokryphos> !upgrade
[06:01] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade.  Upgrading to dapper (remember it may break). Please test the dist-upgrader -> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html.
[06:01] <tamale> breezy badger by the way
[06:01] <apokryphos> slycer: straightforward instructions there
[06:02] <slycer> breezy is a new version of ubunt?
[06:02] <apokryphos> slycer: it is the latest stable, yes.
[06:02] <Frogzoo> slycer: no, breezy is the latest current production release
[06:02] <ryanair> Frogzoo: -rw-------  1 root root 477 2006-04-05 21:00 .ICEauthority
[06:02] <tamale> anyone?
[06:02] <slycer> sorry if i ask stupid questions
[06:02] <slycer> :p
[06:02] <intuos_pen> is it crucial for a laptop to have "CPU Frequency Scaling" compiled in it's kernel?
[06:03] <Overand> If I want to install ubuntu on a system with a RAID 1 mirror on an integrated 'raid' controller like an nForce 4, should I do software raid or should I configure it in the BIOS?
[06:03] <Frogzoo> ryanair: umm, are you trying to login as root? don't do that
[06:03] <ryanair> I am not.
[06:03] <Overand> intuos_pen: pretty useful, yes, what kind of chip is it?
[06:03] <intuos_pen> Overand: VIA C3 Nehemiah.
[06:03] <ryanair> Is logging in as root even possible in Ubuntu?
[06:03] <Frogzoo> ryanair: cool, you need to chown .ICEauthority to user:user
[06:03] <Overand> intuos_pen: I don't think those support scaling.
[06:03] <ryanair> Frogzoo: Please forgive me, but I do not understansd
[06:03] <Overand> ryanair: yes, you need to make a root password
[06:04] <jadaz87> Overand What about a Mobile Pentium 4 2.66GHz Northwood?
[06:04] <Overand> There's no really good reason to log in as root.
[06:04] <Overand> jadaz87: not sure.  =] 
[06:04] <Overand> jadaz87: i THINK that one does scaling
[06:04] <jadaz87> for the CPU Freq Scaling
[06:04] <ryanair> Overand: I know, but I was asking if it was possible to actually log in as root. I didn't think so.
[06:04] <jadaz87> oh ok
[06:04] <intuos_pen> Overand: yeah me too. although it has an option called "Longhaul" for VIA Cyrix III, i think that is different from the C3 nehemiah.
[06:04] <Overand> ryanair:  it is 100% possible, but 100% unneccesary
[06:04] <Frogzoo> ryanair: sudo chown ryanair:ryanair ~ryanair/.ICEauthority
[06:04] <Overand> intuos_pen: hmm.
[06:04] <tamale> update:  I'm rebooting, and i virtual-terminaled before X finished loading
[06:04] <tamale> and now i'm watching it boot
[06:05] <ryanair> Frogzoo: Now what?
[06:05] <intuos_pen> Overand: or the VIA C3 can take advantage of that longhaul code?
[06:05] <Overand> intuos_pen: I don't know
[06:05] <Frogzoo> ryanair: assuming you realise that I've assume your login name as ryanair above, you should be able to login as ryanair now
[06:06] <acid2> Hey, having a bit of trouble getting xserver-xgl to install, namely: trying to overwrite `/usr/share/man/man1/Xserver.1x.gz', which is also in package xserver-xorg-core
[06:06] <acid2> Any ideas?
[06:06] <intuos_pen> Overand: somehow, i notice my laptop slows down when AC is cut off (when it switch to battery) is it an indication of "CPU Frequency Scaling"?
[06:06] <ryanair> okay thanks. I'll try that
[06:07] <Overand> intuos_pen: that seems likely, yes.
[06:07] <AstralJava> acid2: Sounds like you're using Dapper, in which case #ubuntu+1 would be a better place to ask. If I'm mistaken, though, I'm sorry I cannot help you. :)
[06:07] <intuos_pen> Overand: so i have to enable it. thanks. will be back again. :)
[06:07] <Cin> Excellent, my GNOME apps now work in KDE now I installed Kubuntu.
[06:07] <Frogzoo> intuos_pen: freq scaling indeed
[06:07] <Cin> Work as in "are skinned".
[06:07] <acid2> AstralJava, Ah, yea - thanks - apologies, didn't know bout that chan :)
[06:08] <acid2> Don't ask to ask please :)
[06:08] <Frogzoo> harisund: gettys has no relation to x-session afaik
[06:08] <apokryphos> acid2: /msg ubotu xgl
[06:08] <ScreaminIke> how do i enable a proxy?
[06:09] <AstralJava> acid2: It's alright, just trying to help here. :)
[06:09] <acid2> apokryphos, ok
[06:09] <AstralJava> ScreaminIke: Are you installing a proxy, or would you just wanna use one?
[06:09] <acid2> lmsg ubotu xgl
[06:09] <acid2> eermm
[06:09] <ScreaminIke> i want to use one, astraljava
[06:10] <acid2> apokryphos, yea, im there now (after spamming to channels >_<)
[06:10] <eugman> So why w3m the one to be included by default instead of links 2 or something else?
[06:10] <Frogzoo> ScreaminIke: from firefox -> edit -> prefs -> connection settings
[06:10] <AstralJava> ScreaminIke: Is it an http proxy? If yes, then do "export http_proxy=http://server.goes.here:portnumber" in a terminal.
[06:10] <AstralJava> ScreaminIke: Frogzoo gave you the Firefox thingie. With those, you should be set.
[06:11] <Marticus> ahoy
[06:11] <ScreaminIke> thanxs, astraljava, frogzoo
[06:11] <Frogzoo> enjoy
[06:12] <tamale> Frogzoo:  The grub-install seemed simple enough.  I can just copy my menu.1st file over now, correct?
[06:12] <intuos_pen> question: does the MTD (Memory Technology Devices) section pertains to devices like SD, MMC and Compaq Flash?
[06:13] <Frogzoo> tamale: yes, but then run 'sudo update-grub'
[06:13] <tamale> what's that for
[06:13] <Marticus> I've chosen the expert install method for breezy and I seem to have never been prompted for the type of package install I want, furthermore, the base-config script is pausing rather than taking the -y option as it seems to have been written
[06:14] <dee_> hello
[06:14] <Marticus> can someone possibly assist?
[06:14] <BobbyOnions> Got a strange problem with dapper/amd64 and du on an xfs filesystem if there are any takers
[06:14] <Frogzoo> tamale: I'm not 100% sure this step is necessary, but it reconfigures menu.lst for the grub screen
[06:14] <antisocial_boris> i've read about a bit about samba, but im still not sure about a few things, how do i send some files to an xp user on my network?
[06:14] <dee_> did anyone know what I must do that beep media player shows special chars?
[06:14] <tamale> I want to use my old menu.1st file though, correct?  since it works properly?
[06:14] <intuos_pen> antisocial_boris: you just share a folder and let them get it from you.
[06:14] <bolsh> Hi
[06:15] <fadsdss> where can i find an update repository list^
[06:15] <Frogzoo> antisocial_boris: you need to mount the xp shares as samba shares
[06:15] <bolsh> I was talking to someone a couple of days ago about keyboard issues - is he here?
[06:15] <Frogzoo> !tell fadsdss about easysource
[06:15] <fadsdss> thnks
[06:15] <intuos_pen> Frogzoo: that way, one could write to the XP share even if it's ntfs?
[06:15] <Marticus> has someone else seen the problem of base-config pausing?
[06:15] <dee_> and my second question: my /boot/grub/menu-lst shows something different from that what grubs shows at ubuntu-start... I have another Ubuntu on hard disc and I am starting from floppy disc.
[06:16] <Frogzoo> intuos_pen: yep
[06:16] <harisund> OH ok . FrogZoo/quit
[06:16] <BobbyOnions> intuous_pen: you don't see ntfs. you see smb/cifs
[06:16] <Overand> If I want to install ubuntu on a system with a RAID 1 mirror on an integrated 'raid' controller like an nForce 4, should I do software raid or should I configure it in the BIOS?
[06:16] <Frogzoo> intuos_pen: but only on remote machines, of course
[06:16] <bolsh> I just wanted to say thanks - I found the kbd_sel utility on the HP support site, reset my keyboard config, and it works like a dream
[06:16] <bolsh> I can cursor to my heart's content
[06:16] <intuos_pen> thanks guys.
[06:17] <intuos_pen> btw, anyone know if SD, MMC and Compaq flash memories are the one's called as "memory technology devices" by a linux kernel?
[06:17] <BobbyOnions> i do raid1 using software: advantage is that you don't have to mirror the whole drive
[06:18] <BobbyOnions> low-end raid controllers use your CPU anyway, so there isn't much of a speed gain by "offloading" it to the motherbaord
[06:18] <Marticus> aparently it only pauses when using 'base-config new'
[06:18] <AlexC_> Is Dapper+1 the next version after Dapper?
[06:18] <AlexC_> or is Dapper+1 the next release
[06:18] <Frogzoo> AlexC_: yes
[06:18] <Stork> how can i find out how much free memory i have?
[06:18] <Frogzoo> AlexC_: due 1st june
[06:18] <apokryphos> AlexC_: dapper drake is the next version of ubuntu, referred to as #ubuntu+1 atm
[06:18] <Stork> in my hdd
[06:18] <BobbyOnions> SD/MMC etc. - not MTD AFAIK
[06:19] <apokryphos> Stork: df -h
[06:19] <AlexC_> I see
[06:19] <johnm1019> I'm running an IBM thinkpad T30, with the latest Ubuntu release, are there any packages which might add support for some of the keyboard buttons (volume up/down and mute -- and some of the FNKEY+ buttons)?  Thanks
[06:19] <Stork> apokryphos: thanks
[06:19] <Frogzoo> Stork: free memory? 'free'
[06:20] <BobbyOnions> stork: 'top' is pretty intuitive, but cat /proc/meminfo is the real deal
[06:20] <Keeksikene> hi, little problem, i have difficutlies with keyboard layout in ubuntu 5.10
[06:20] <zeff> hi guys
[06:20] <intuos_pen> johnm1019: apt-get hotkey is your friendl.
[06:20] <Keeksikene> i cant seem to change it
[06:20] <johnm1019> intuos_pen, thanks :) i'll give that a shot
[06:20] <sudomania4> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11602 is an error i get...
[06:21] <Keeksikene> any solutions for that keyboard layout thing?
[06:21] <intuos_pen> johnm1019: but i believe hotkey is installed by default when you install ubuntu.
[06:21] <sudomania4> what is wromg?
[06:21] <Stork> hi, how can i send files unencrypted over the network?
[06:21] <intuos_pen> Stork: use olde ftp and telnet.
[06:21] <Stork> is there no other way?
[06:22] <gridblock_> ALAAAAANARISHA
[06:22] <tkup> johnm1019, I'm on a T30 and all the Fn keys are working
[06:22] <intuos_pen> Stork: don't encrypt the files before sending it.
[06:22] <johnm1019> intuos_pen, i'd check the synaptics application to check if its installed but im currently installing WINE and its taking forever to download so the db is locked :-\
[06:22] <tkup> johnm1019, what key combination are you having problems with?
[06:22] <scarborough> Im going to allow my amsn to send cam, but to do that I have to edit the firewall, where can I find the firewall in ubuntu?
[06:22] <BobbyOnions> stork: scp, rsync-over-ssh. lots of optiosn
[06:22] <intuos_pen> johnm1019: yay,
[06:22] <Keeksikene> could anyone pls help me with keyboard layout problem in ubuntu, worked fine in kubuntu though :S
[06:22] <intuos_pen> johnm1019: waht windows application you're going to run with wine?
[06:23] <sudomania4> has anybody seen this error? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11602
[06:23] <Stork> BobbyOnions: i said unencrypted :)
[06:23] <tombs> hi all
[06:23] <valberg> hey how do i share files between two ubuntu systems where the one has a x system that is f*cked ?
[06:23] <intuos_pen> BobbyOnions, the person wants it "unencrypted".
[06:23] <johnm1019> tkup, hmm ok, for instance, my volume up down mute buttons -- they work, but only kind of.  They do change the volume and can mute, but It wont show me where the volume is at, and it updates some mysterious volume, not the volume bar shown in the upper dock
[06:23] <BobbyOnions> :D that's why i say ssh. why would you want to send unencrypted?
[06:23] <intuos_pen> BobbyOnions, you suggested secure transport programs. lol.
[06:23] <johnm1019> intuos_pen, Once school gets out here at UM im gunna restart my WoW subscript :-) also hoping to find support for BF2
[06:23] <valberg> and i have a crossover cable between the two...
[06:24] <johnm1019> tkup, the other combo which would be handy but isn't nesscessary is the fnkeys to suspend and hibernate directly from kb support
[06:24] <Stork> BobbyOnions: because it's on my LAN, and i don't care who's watching, and i want it to be fast
[06:24] <BobbyOnions> rsync then
[06:24] <intuos_pen> BobbyOnions, he/she wants to send his/her files unencrypted.. not me! :)
[06:24] <snoopy__> hello
[06:25] <Stork> BobbyOnions: any ideas?
[06:25] <antisocial_boris> i've put the directories i want as shard on samba, but my friend cant find me on his workgroup, what do i do?
[06:25] <snoopy__> how i can find the master key in linux
[06:25] <arrick> ok, got the ftp working, how do I find out what HD my ftp folder is on?
[06:25] <BobbyOnions> rsync can be used with rsh or ssh. how fast does the transfer need to be and what operating systems are at both ends?
[06:26] <sudomania4> anyone? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11602
[06:26] <intuos_pen> antisocial_boris: tell him to type your ip address on his explorer window like this "\\:192.168.2.5" if for example your computer's ip is 192.168.2.5.
[06:26] <BobbyOnions> antisocial_boris: are you on the same subnet as you may need WINS
[06:26] <mthakur> hi, i have a problem. my synaptic program manager doesnot come up
[06:26] <Stork> BobbyOnions: ubuntu both ends
[06:26] <intuos_pen> antisocial_boris, my mistake, that would be like this: "\\192.168.2.5"
[06:27] <mthakur> Stork,can u help me?
[06:27] <tkup> johnm1019, they Fn codes for hibernate/sleep etc are configured in this dir: /etc/acpi/events/  ex: ibm-hibernatebtn
[06:27] <BobbyOnions> Stork: I'd go for rsync then if one-off file transfers are in order. If you want file sharing/file systems, NFS3 is good.
[06:28] <johnm1019> tkup, oh nice find, thanks i'll start tweaking :)
[06:28] <foxpaul> Stork: iFolder ?
[06:28] <snoopy__> i need a root key
[06:28] <snoopy__> how can i find
[06:28] <arrick> ok, got the ftp working, how do I find out what HD my folder is on?
[06:28] <Stork> BobbyOnions: yeah, it's probably just one time - i need to backup so i can install gentoo safely
[06:29] <arrick> Anoyone:^^
[06:29] <intuos_pen> snoopy__: install linux on your machine then you will be root.
[06:29] <snoopy__> how can find in aother computer the key of root
[06:29] <Stork> god damn it, i need another hard drive
[06:29] <intuos_pen> snoopy__: if it's owned by someone else then you don't have business being root there.
[06:30] <tkup> johnm1019, you're right about the dock volume not reflecting the changes you make using the volume buttons. I'm not sure if the kernel is capable of obtaining feedback from the butons. I guess you'd have to take it to ubuntu dev
[06:30] <snoopy__> ok thank you
[06:30] <snoopy__> bie
[06:30] <BobbyOnions> if you want to backup up a linux filesystem to a small number of files on a remote machine, look at partimage/partimaged. if you're ok with having a complete duplicate set of files and directories on the remote machine, i'd suggest rsync
[06:30] <intuos_pen> snoopy__: you're not supposed to find the "key of root" of someone else's system.
[06:30] <immerohnegott> hi...recently compiled kernel 2.15.1, can't get my ipw2200 to work...
[06:30] <snoopy__> i lose it
[06:30] <immerohnegott> compiled support as module and modprobed to no avail
[06:30] <arrick> ok, got the ftp working, how do I find out what HD my folder is on?
[06:30] <arrick> ok, got the ftp working, how do I find out what HD my folder is on?
[06:31] <arrick> Anoyone:^^
[06:31] <ruzgar> how can i find flightgear xml files in linux
[06:31] <arrick> sorry about the repeat
[06:31] <intuos_pen> arrick: huh?
[06:31] <snoopy__>  i remove the sistem
[06:31] <immerohnegott> anyone have any ideas?
[06:31] <ruzgar> i don know where it is installed(i use ubuntu 5.10)
[06:31] <arrick> intuos_pen, I am tryinf to figure out which drive I installed onto, cause one is 3gig and one is 20 gis, and only one is showing up in fstab
[06:32] <BobbyOnions> arrick: cd /; df -h .
[06:32] <valberg> how do i transfer files between two computer using a crossover cable?
[06:32] <intuos_pen> ruzgar: sudo updatedb && locate flightgear.
[06:33] <Overand> Is performance with *sofware* RAID 1 bad?
[06:33] <arrick> man it installed on the **))()(&^@ 3gig on me
[06:33] <intuos_pen> Overand: yes.
[06:33] <Overand> bleh.
[06:33] <arrick> !mount
[06:33] <ubotu> mount is, like, the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[06:33] <intuos_pen> Overand: raid 0 performance is good but reliability is so bad.
[06:34] <BobbyOnions> Overand: on a low-end raid controller (those on motherboards), the CPU usually does the work anyway, so you don't get much of a performance gain. if you RAID-1 two disks and install linux onto the volume, you'll be RAIDing the swap too, which is terrible
[06:34] <johnm1019> tkup, ok, maybe its changing the wave out volume? (or was that a windows only thing?) and the dock reflects the master volume control?
[06:34] <intuos_pen> Overand: if you want to be on a middle, not too good neither too bad, go to RAID5.
[06:34] <intuos_pen> Overand: but it will require you at least 3 hardisk.
[06:34] <BobbyOnions> Overand: i agree with intuous_pen, if you can possibly afford it get a dedicated raid controller
[06:35] <BobbyOnions> (if performance is vital, that is)
[06:36] <ruzgar> intuos_pen thanks
[06:36] <BobbyOnions> Overand: http://www.gamepc.com/labs/view_content.asp?id=r52005&page=1&cookie%5Ftest=1
[06:36] <BobbyOnions> search for "onboard raid" in that article
[06:36] <intuos_pen> ruzgar: no problem. i hope you found it.
[06:37] <Overand> BobbyOnions: i'm aware of what 'fakeraid' is
[06:37] <caglar__> can I make synaptic force overwrite a file which is already included in a already installed package? It says "cannot update x-server-xorg because /etc/file is includet in xserver-xgl"
[06:37] <Overand> Basically, I'm building a server to colocate, and I want some redundancy
[06:37] <Overand> but good raid controllers are > $400
[06:37] <Overand> bleh.
[06:37] <BobbyOnions> that's the price you pay though
[06:37] <Overand> and I don't need a lot of storage.  I was going to get a pair of 250s mirrored, and set up in fakeraid or softraid
[06:38] <BobbyOnions> if it's a hobby site, then don't bother. if it's an revenue-generator, you have to cough up for that kind of performance
[06:38] <intuos_pen> Overand: with a little additional budget, you would be good buying a scsi controller and a scsi RAID enclosure.
[06:39] <haggis> on the live version is there any way to premnet mount ntfs partions
[06:39] <Overand> intuos_pen: this is a 1U server that already has 4 hot-swappable SATA bays
[06:39] <Overand> I'm not going SCSI
[06:39] <Overand> intuos_pen: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16856152019
[06:39] <intuos_pen> Overand: check this out: http://www.thecus.com/products_over.php?cid=1&pid=2&PHPSESSID=f4b034961759b6a69ee33616dd0cee7c
[06:39] <antisocial_boris> what command gives me my ip addy?
[06:40] <apokryphos> ifconfig
[06:40] <intuos_pen> /sbin/ifconfig
[06:40] <haggis> can i mount ntfs partions on the live version
[06:40] <arrick> !pastbin
[06:40] <ubotu> arrick: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:40] <arrick> !pastebin
[06:40] <ubotu> well, pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[06:41] <Overand> intuos_pen: that box is really useless for what I'm doing
[06:41] <Overand> intuos_pen: I'm colocating a 1U server.
[06:42] <Overand> I'm tempted to just go all-out, get an Areca 4x SATA-II PCIe contoller and stick 4 250s in there in RAID 5
[06:42] <Overand> haha
[06:42] <Overand> but I don't need that much storage!  I just need reasonably good performance and I need redundancy.
[06:42] <BobbyOnions> you'll rue the day you said "I don't need that much storage" ;)
[06:43] <intuos_pen> yeah,
[06:43] <intuos_pen> "who needs more than 640k" ?
[06:43] <Frogzoo> BobbyOnions: is right - you can never have too much pron
[06:43] <valberg> how do i transfer files between two computer using a crossover cable?
[06:43] <BobbyOnions> what is "reasonably good performance" then? "md" is ok for many applications
[06:43] <pdavid> morning all
[06:43] <Overand> the Areca ARC-1210 PCI-Express x 8 SATA II RAID Controller (4 SATA II ports) is $400
[06:43] <pdavid> quick question on OOo 2.0.2
[06:43] <BobbyOnions> choice of filesystem makes a difference too
[06:43] <lakcaj> anyone here using google talk and gaim?
[06:43] <Overand> The PCI-X version is $370
[06:43] <intuos_pen> valberg: same as how you transfer files over the network.
[06:43] <pinpoint> hey room
[06:43] <pdavid> is it in the repositories now?
[06:43] <Overand> lakcaj: 'google talk' is jabber.
[06:44] <arrick> hey BobbyOnions can you check this out and try to help me out? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11605
[06:44] <Overand> lakcaj: and no, i haven't used it
[06:44] <pinpoint> does ubuntu have a newsgroup binary program??
[06:44] <Overand> Hmm... did someone just hear a jackal turn inside-out?
[06:44] <Frogzoo> pinpoint: pan
[06:44] <Frogzoo> !info pan
[06:44] <ubotu> pan: (A Newsreader based on GTK2, which looks like Forte Agent), section news, is optional. Version: 0.14.2.91-2ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 451 kB, Installed size: 3608 kB
[06:44] <arrick> valberg, use the cp command in terminal
[06:44] <lakcaj> Overand, yeah - I've logged in, but I have to admit, I don't use instant messenging, just irc.  Do I have to join a chat room to be able to talk to one of the "buddies"?
[06:45] <arrick> intuos_pen, check this out will yah? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11605
[06:45] <arrick> Iam trying to mount my large drive
[06:45] <BobbyOnions> arrick: hdb is partitioned, you're using one partition (/dev/hdb1)
[06:45] <pdavid> did anyone know if openoffice 2.0.2 is in the repos?
[06:45] <pdavid> and if so, which one should i get?
[06:45] <intuos_pen> arrick: why did you put your root on a primary slave disk?
[06:45] <Frogzoo> !tell pdavid about ooo2
[06:45] <valberg> arrick: how do i find out where to cp the files to ?
[06:46] <pinpoint> Frogzoo, thanks, ill try that now
[06:46] <arrick> BobbyOnions, I only put one partition on the smaller drive, adn accidently installed on the baby too
[06:46] <pdavid> thanks frogzoo
[06:46] <Frogzoo> pinpoint: you'll find it a great improvement over 1.9
[06:46] <akulah> where to find howtos to packaging java apps?
[06:46] <arrick> how in the world did I put the dang thing on the slave?
[06:46] <intuos_pen> arrick: i suggest you try to create a custom partition, it'll save you a lot of headache in the long run.
[06:46] <BobbyOnions> arrick: the large drive is /dev/hda. use "fdisk -l" to show the partitions. "mount /dev/hda1 /mnt" will probably mount the first partition under /mnt
[06:47] <chuckyp> Does anyone remember the fix for the broadcomm chipset wireless cards.  I remember an issue with a module being loaded that they added into the kernel.  Making ndiswrapper botch up.
[06:47] <pdavid> i still dont see anything on 2.0.2 OOo, though
[06:47] <arrick> ok thanks
[06:47] <Frogzoo> !ooo2
[06:47] <ubotu> To upgrade to OOo 2.0.x, see http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2005-October/012520.html (add one of the 'deb' lines to sources.list and update+upgrade)
[06:47] <pdavid> frogzoo, thanks, but all the packages are 2.0.1
[06:47] <pdavid> not 2.0.2
[06:48] <arrick> is there an eay way to switch all my info over to the other hd BobbyOnions intuos_pen ?
[06:48] <intuos_pen> arrick: i personally like this layout 128Mb for /boot (hda1), 10Gb for / (hda2), 2gb swap (hda3) and the rest of the disk as /home (hda4).
[06:48] <IdleOne> pdavid, that means that they dont have a 2.0.2 package yet
[06:48] <Frogzoo> pdavid: k, my bad
[06:48] <Overand> bugger, i have no idea what the ideal solution is.
[06:48] <pdavid> well, any hints on using alien to install from a tarball?
[06:48] <pinpoint> Frogzoo, is it terminal based?
[06:48] <arrick> I just got this thing setup I hate to redo it all already
[06:48] <intuos_pen> arrick: i didn't know of an easy way.
[06:48] <pinguin_> hi
[06:48] <duelboot> _jason...trying to get prism54 loaded..compiled islsm-workbench and got the following error....any help?
[06:48] <arrick> ok thanks
[06:49] <Overand> 250 gigs is PLENTY of storage.
[06:49] <BobbyOnions> arrick: it's not dead hard but you would create a filesystem in (say) /dev/hda1 and use something like rsync or tar to copy it all over
[06:49] <Frogzoo> pinpoint: nope
[06:49] <pinguin_> which programm is good to burn a music cd?
[06:49] <duelboot> make[3] : *** [/tmp/src/kernel/islsm_uart.o]  Error 1
[06:49] <duelboot> make[2] : *** [_module_/tmp/src/kernel]  Error 2
[06:49] <arrick> ok'
[06:49] <intuos_pen> arrick: i would use tar and fdisk if i encountered problems like yours.
[06:49] <arrick> ok thanks
[06:49] <IdleOne> pinguin_, gnomebaker or k3b
[06:49] <IdleOne> pinguin_, there are several others also
[06:49] <arrick> now to back up files for use later
[06:50] <Sk8aZ> can anyone teach me how to configure a wireless network on ubuntu (with wep)?
[06:50] <duelboot> I really like K3B pinguin
[06:50] <goodi_> is there any tool to 'tweak' a sata disk like hdparm for ide? atm its horrible slow
[06:50] <duelboot> anyone see my question above
[06:50] <arrick> what are the rally important config file for proftpd, apache2 and ubuntu?
[06:50] <intuos_pen> arrick: or if you have a functioning dvd rw, start burning your data now and reinstall.
[06:50] <IdleOne> !tell Sk8aZ about wireless
[06:51] <Cueball|Laptop> !tell Cueball|Laptop about wireless
[06:51] <arrick> intuos_pen, no burners, small slow dinosaur server
[06:51] <intuos_pen> arrick: i assume proftpd.conf, apache2.conf and the /etc directory for ubuntu.
[06:51] <arrick> ok thanks
[06:52] <arrick> intuos_pen, how about ssh?
[06:52] <intuos_pen> arrick: or, gather all your important data on a directory, tar it and ftp it to a computer with larger drive space.
[06:52] <zuokanyunqi> i am using latex   how can i let 0<x<2 under "max"
[06:52] <arrick> ok
[06:52] <chuckyp> Does anyone remember the fix or module that needed to be rem'd out for the broadcomm chipset cards so that you can use ndiswrapper instead of the botched kernel drivers?
[06:52] <antisocial_boris> how do i mount a directory on an xp computer?
[06:53] <arrick> !ntfs
[06:53] <ubotu> methinks ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[06:53] <intuos_pen> arrick: i don't use ssh much when transferring files, i only use it like it's just a secure version of telnet. (short answer: i didn't know ssh much).
[06:53] <arrick> ok
[06:54] <pdavid> scp for transferring files securely?
[06:54] <intuos_pen> pdavid: yes. :)
[06:55] <intuos_pen> damn, i remember i'm trying to compile a kernel on the server next door.
[06:55] <HackerGates> we
[06:55] <HackerGates> ciao
[06:55] <HackerGates> hi
[06:55] <HackerGates> hi
[06:55] <intuos_pen> hi HackerGates.
[06:55] <HackerGates> hi intuos
[06:56] <HackerGates> _pen
[06:56] <intuos_pen> HackerGates, so how many chairs did ballmer throw today?
[06:56] <tuxis> the are french chanels for ubuntu
[06:56] <HackerGates> i'm italian
[06:56] <HackerGates> you?
[06:56] <intuos_pen> HackerGates, i'm a ferengi.
[06:56] <HackerGates> ???
[06:57] <tuxis> did some one had prob with valknut on ubuntu
[06:57] <intuos_pen> HackerGates, no really, i'm a klingon.
[06:57] <IdleOne> tuxis, /join #ubuntu-fr pour de l'aide en francias :)
[06:57] <tuxis> tks
[06:57] <IdleOne> de rien
[06:58] <HackerGates> Whats your name? intuos_pen
[06:58] <IdleOne> !offtopic
[06:58] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[06:58] <duelboot> Okay...anyway to get kernel 2.6.13 besides compiling it myself?
[06:58] <Frogzoo> is someone asling on #ubuntu lol
[06:58] <IdleOne> duelboot, I dont think so
[06:58] <tuxis> dit idle one tu connait valknut
[06:58] <duelboot> arrrrrrrrrggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[06:58] <IdleOne> tuxis, no desoller
[06:58] <IdleOne> non*
[06:59] <tuxis> oky
[06:59] <intuos_pen> HackerGates, i don't want to tell you my name in an irc channel because i'm afraid somebody will rob me of my identity.
[06:59] <kudeta> hello i neeed some help compilig beagle from cvs plz
[06:59] <kudeta> i keep running into  PKG_CONFIG_PATH  errors
[06:59] <kudeta> was wondering how to fix them
[06:59] <kudeta> e.g. cannot find sqlite3 (even though it is installed)
[06:59] <IdleOne> kudeta, beagle is in the repos iirc
[06:59] <IdleOne> kudeta, apt-cache search beagle to make sure
[06:59] <kudeta> yes i want the new one wthough :)
[07:00] <IdleOne> ahhh
[07:00] <AlexC_> HEy,
[07:00] <IdleOne> heya
[07:00] <intuos_pen> HackerGates, not that my identity is so good, just not to make it worse than it is now. lol.
[07:00] <kudeta> any easy way idleone to fix these  PKG_CONFIG_PATH  things?
[07:00] <HackerGates> yes
[07:00] <AlexC_> I'm trying to find the Ubuntu Breezy Starter Guide, but I can't find it any more
[07:00] <AlexC_> Does anyone know the URL?
[07:00] <dueyfinster> I cannot run apt, as a process has locked it, but I do not know which one. It gets saved in my sessions, rebooting does not work. Help much appreiciated, thanks in advance......
[07:00] <kudeta> ?
[07:00] <HackerGates> Understan
[07:00] <duelboot> idleone....really wanted prism54!  It needs 2.6.13 (well...islsm does)
[07:00] <IdleOne> kudeta, put the errors on paste.ubuntu-nl.org and paste the url in here and Im sure someone can give it a shot
[07:00] <Frogzoo> AlexC_: click on the task bar 'gnome help'
[07:01] <Frogzoo> !tell AlexC_ about docs
[07:01] <Overand> heh
[07:01] <HackerGates> intuos_pen do you have a contact of MSN?
[07:01] <IdleOne> dueyfinster, in term killall synaptic then run apt-get update
[07:01] <AlexC_> By the way, the majority of these things will work with Dapper, yes?
[07:02] <gmvebt> hgfgeygg
[07:02] <kudeta> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11609
[07:02] <kudeta> this is the problem
[07:02] <kudeta> it just goes round and round
[07:02] <kudeta> wanting a fix for the pkg config path
[07:02] <Frogzoo> AlexC_: don't go there - dapper's not for the faint hearted
[07:02] <IdleOne> AlexC_, wiki.ubuntu.com is a good place to start
[07:02] <kudeta> i dunno how to do that though
[07:02] <dueyfinster> IdleOne: E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[07:02] <AlexC_> Frogzoo: I don't use Linux for anything import - so I'm just playing around with it to see what XGL is like really
[07:03] <AlexC_> important*
[07:03] <Frogzoo> AlexC_: k, well if it explodes, enjoy
[07:03] <IdleOne> dueyfinster, sudo dpkg --configure -a
[07:03] <AlexC_> hehe
[07:04] <kudeta> ? :(
[07:04] <HackerGates> there anybody italian?
[07:04] <kudeta> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11609
[07:04] <Frogzoo> !it
[07:04] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[07:04] <dueyfinster> IdleOne: Yes, it's installing stuff I tried to get before, it looks as if it's working thanks!
[07:04] <Scarborough> How do I update firefox? Im using 1.0.7 how du I update to the latest?
[07:04] <HackerGates> c' un canale italiano?
[07:04] <IdleOne> !ff1.5
[07:04] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[07:04] <Frogzoo> !tell Scarborough about ff1.5
[07:05] <IdleOne> HackerGates, /join #ubuntu-it
[07:05] <HackerGates> thank
[07:05] <HackerGates> you*
[07:05] <Scarborough> thanks
[07:05] <HackerGates> hi
[07:05] <HackerGates> bye bye
[07:05] <Overand> heh
[07:06] <intuos_pen> Overand, ?
[07:06] <Overand> my system just went from $190 for storage to $779
[07:06] <intuos_pen> Overand, which i/o scheduler would  you prefer?
[07:06] <Overand> intuos_pen: nfi
[07:06] <intuos_pen> Overand: gah.
[07:06] <Overand> that is, 'no f___ idea"
[07:06] <Overand> well
[07:06] <intuos_pen> Overand: i know.
[07:06] <Overand> i was going to get a pair of 250s in a mirror
[07:06] <Bambino> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg is not working for me, anyone knows why?
[07:06] <intuos_pen> Overand: could be no fine idea.
[07:07] <Overand> no flipping idea
[07:07] <Kolan> Hi, when booting I get a message about that I've over 4GB of RAM and that its not compiled for that, anyone whit experience in this?
[07:07] <intuos_pen> Overand: like tfa, could be interpreted as "the f___'in article" or "the fine article".
[07:07] <IdleOne> Bambino, paste.ubuntu-nl.org the error your getting and give the url in here
[07:08] <dee_> did anyone know what I must do that beep media player shows special chars?
[07:08] <Overand> So- it looks like getting a real RAID controller is the 'best' idea, and the Areca 1210 (4x SATA II, PCI Express, pretty fast onboard CPU, upgradable ram) is $400
[07:08] <Frogzoo> Kolan: it's obviously asking for a kernel rebuild
[07:08] <intuos_pen> Kolan: it's time to recompile kernel and add support for big memories.
[07:08] <Overand> ANd, well, my system has 4 hot-swappable sata bays on the front, so might as well go RAID 5 instead of RAID 1, and tack on an extra 2 drives....
[07:08] <Overand> bleh
[07:08] <Overand> I just really don't want to deal with the possibility of a drive dying.
[07:09] <Kolan> Thats my guess to, so the next question is how do I do that? do you know any guide?
[07:09] <Overand> and the more i read, the less and less 'installing to a raid 1 mirror' seems sane
[07:09] <BobC2> Hi, A new Linux (Ubuntu) user of about a week now.
[07:09] <gamma> anyone here try opensuse?
[07:09] <Davey|Work> Kolan, *do* you have over 4GB of RAM? if so, I hate you :P
[07:09] <gamma> or come from it rather?
[07:10] <jason_> big linux noob needs to  upgrade firefox from 1.0.7 to 1.5... help!
[07:10] <Frogzoo> !kernel compilation
[07:10] <ubotu> To compile your kernel on Ubuntu, see that thread : http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=85064
[07:10] <Overand> intuos_pen: hardware controller
[07:10] <IdleOne> !tell jason_ about ff1.5
[07:10] <intuos_pen> Overand: external enclosure talking to a scsi adapter.
[07:10] <intuos_pen> Overand: yes hardware.
[07:10] <Kolan> I've exactly 4GB of ram..
[07:11] <Overand> as it stands,yeah
[07:11] <LathropWells> Hello! - Is there a list of needed updates? Update manager is asking to install a new kernel.  (i already have this kernel installed version)
[07:11] <Overand> (ignore that last line)
[07:11] <intuos_pen> Overand: XFS shine's like a starstruck winner.
[07:11] <BobC2> I've seen that Ubuntu can read and write to a floppy disk the was formatted in WindowsXP and I was a bit surprised.   Is this because they can both read/write to FAT 16 ( I think that's what a floppy is)?
[07:11] <Frogzoo> LathropWells: it's probably a kernel patch
[07:11] <LathropWells> *have this kernel installed now
[07:11] <Overand> I'm hearing a lot of good comments from people about XFS
[07:11] <intuos_pen> BobC2: correct.
[07:11] <intuos_pen> Overand: believe them!:)
[07:11] <LathropWells> Ah - so the kernel release number would be the same?
[07:12] <BobC2> intuos_pen Ahhh thanks
[07:12] <Frogzoo> LathropWells: yes
[07:12] <BobC2> nice feature
[07:12] <LathropWells> Frogzoo - Thank You :)  (again - grin)
[07:12] <Frogzoo> yw
[07:13] <tmjb> is reiserfs4 stable on ubuntu 5.0.1 thanks  I need fary stable filesystem atomic would be nice no data loss should be posible (sqldatabase server).
[07:13] <intuos_pen> Overand, i for one uses XFS on a root and home partition of my notebook.
[07:13] <Overand> intuos_pen: do I need to know anything different to use XFS?
[07:13] <Overand> like... am I going to discover weirdness?
[07:13] <intuos_pen> Overand: ext3 lags half on a performance of XFS.
[07:13] <BobC2> I've installed Samba (WOW!) and I'm thinking I may not need to make a dual boot machine now it works so well!  Thanks to help here!
[07:13] <jason_> is there any way to apt firefox 1.5?
[07:14] <joel> Hello, looking for help... Anyone have trouble with the latest 'update-notifier' quitting unexpectedly?   In a terminal it states it cannot start because you need to be in the 'admin' group (Which groups shows I am)   Root can't even start it... Bug, feature, or did I overlook something?
[07:14] <IdleOne> jason, nope
[07:14] <IdleOne> jason_, nope
[07:14] <Overand> jason_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[07:14] <tmjb> intuos_pen,what is the most stable filesystem
[07:14] <Frogzoo> joel: full disk? just maybe
[07:14] <joel> nope, have 60gb free
[07:15] <Chicken-Man> Can some one please help me fix this, http://pastebin.com/644414
[07:15] <BobC2>  Does anyone know about  the VLC media player for Debian GNU/Linux (Thats what Ubuntu is right)?
[07:15] <BobC2> It is located here http://www.videolan.org/vlc/
[07:15] <intuos_pen> tmjb: depends on your application i think.
[07:15] <joel> I also removed (dpkg --purge) and reinst with the same result
[07:15] <icobo> k paxa picha
[07:16] <Frogzoo> BobC2: sudo apt-get install vlc
[07:16] <intuos_pen> tmjb: i'm indulging myself with XFS though.
[07:16] <mbw> hello
[07:16] <joel> I use both vlc and mplayer... I like em both
[07:16] <intuos_pen> tmjb: i think reiserfs is also okay.
[07:16] <tmjb> intuos_pen,I use firebird sql
[07:16] <BobC2> Frogzoo ohhow cool is thta!  THANKS
[07:16] <tmjb> intuos_pen,but what about reiserfs 4
[07:17] <intuos_pen> tmjb: check out XFS, reiserfs, JFS.
[07:17] <mbw> i have a little problem, i am trying to install beagle with help from the official beaglewiki
[07:17] <intuos_pen> tmjb: i don't use reiserfs4 much. only when i'm playing with knoppix-installer.
[07:17] <tmjb> intuos_pen,so u think that XFS is more stable for SQL database server
[07:17] <mbw> and i apt-get does not find a paket called mono-assemblies-arch
[07:17] <Chicken-Man> http://pastebin.com/644414 need help getting LG3D running
[07:18] <mbw> where can i find that?
[07:18] <gnomefreak> mbw: sudo apt-get install beagle should get beagle
[07:18] <intuos_pen> tmjb: if you can, try to skip ext3 or ext2. but if you want to have a /boot partition and want's to use grub, use ext2 and limit the size to 128Mb.
[07:19] <geargolem> is it possible to upgrade from hoary to kubuntu dapper via synaptic?
[07:19] <BobC2> Frogzoo, intuos_pen  Thanks for the help!
[07:19] <intuos_pen> tmjb: XFS performs well on large files of video and graphics.
[07:19] <gnomefreak> geargolem: no yyou have to go 1 release at a time
[07:19] <intuos_pen> tmjb: if you have a lot of small files, reiserfs is good.
[07:19] <Frogzoo> geargolem: careful you upgrade hoary -> breezy -> dapper - do NOT leapfrog releases
[07:19] <mbw> would this install the newest version of beagle?
[07:19] <IdleOne> geargolem, thats not a good idea go to breezy and then dapper
[07:19] <arrick> who knows where there is a setup wiki on setting static ip from command line?
[07:20] <intuos_pen> tmjb: i haven't installed or seen a JFS yet but they say it's good for SQL databases.
[07:20] <geargolem> ok.
[07:20] <Chicken-Man> http://pastebin.com/644414 need help getting LG3D running
[07:20] <gnomefreak> mbw: it will install the version of beagle that your release carries
[07:20] <kudeta> can somone  help me
[07:20] <arrick> hey IdleOne did you see the onversation earlier?
[07:20] <gnomefreak> !helpme
[07:20] <kudeta> setting PKG CONFIG PATH
[07:20] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[07:20] <kudeta> please
[07:20] <mbw> should be pretty outdated...
[07:20] <IdleOne> arrick, conversation?
[07:21] <arrick> man I accidently setup my system on a 3GB hd
[07:21] <arrick> I wanted to setup on the 20
[07:21] <IdleOne> arrick,  lol
[07:21] <arrick> so I am reinstalling all, for learning
[07:21] <Chicken-Man> http://pastebin.com/644414 need help getting LG3D running
[07:21] <arrick> who knows where there is a setup wiki on setting static ip from command line?
[07:21] <kudeta> im trying to build beagle from the cvs but it cant find some packages such as mono (which is installed) it wants me to set the pkg config path but i dont understand this,,,would someone please explain how to do it
[07:21] <arrick> IdleOne, ^^
[07:21] <tmjb> intuos_pen,I read on resierfs site that version 4 is atomic what i need se the most stable fs. what happend to me that my processors overheated and messed up database on raid1  mirror
[07:22] <arrick> I saved the conf files though
[07:22] <gnomefreak> arrick: give me a sec i thought i saw one
[07:22] <Frogzoo> arrick: just google ifconfig + linux
[07:22] <intuos_pen> arrick: yeah, you should've dedicated 3Gb hdd as a swap disk instead.(don't forget to remove it from primary slave and make it secondary master.
[07:22] <arrick> IdleOne, this time with no gui
[07:22] <Chicken-Man> http://pastebin.com/644414 need help getting LG3D running
[07:22] <IdleOne> arrick, I dont know
[07:22] <arrick> I should so that firts right intuos_pen ?
[07:23] <intuos_pen> arrick: i'm sorry, i can not understand your sentence.
[07:23] <IdleOne> haha
[07:23] <valberg> hmm...
[07:23] <IdleOne> he should do that first right?
[07:24] <gnomefreak> arrick: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StaticDnsWithDhcp?highlight=%28static%29  maybe that will help?
[07:24] <Chicken-Man> http://pastebin.com/644414 need help getting LG3D running
[07:24] <intuos_pen> IdleOne: that's why we have to avoid defective keyboards.
[07:24] <valberg> i've tried NFS to connect the two computers, but get a stupid "mount : RPC : Program not registered" error when mounting with the client...
[07:24] <arrick> you told me to move the 3g hd to secondary master , I should do that before reboot right?
[07:25] <intuos_pen> valberg: must be a portmapper problem.
[07:25] <valberg> isn't there a easy way to connect two machines using a crossover cable? they are both without access to the internet...
[07:25] <intuos_pen> arrick: move the 3g hd to sec master if you intend to dedicate it as swap drive.
[07:25] <intuos_pen> arrick: assuming you already backed up the important contents from it.
[07:26] <Frogzoo> valberg: there's a couple of different services you need to support nfs - suggest u check the docs /usr/share/docs
[07:26] <arrick> yeah i did intuos_pen
[07:26] <kosnick> hi all
[07:26] <intuos_pen> valberg: or apt-get install nfs-common.
[07:26] <Chicken-Man> http://pastebin.com/644414 need help getting LG3D running >_< HELP !
[07:26] <Frogzoo> valberg: crossover cable is as good/better than a hub - just assign both nics to the same subnet
[07:26] <valberg> intuos_pen, i've done that...
[07:27] <valberg> Frogzoo, both nics ? subnet ?
[07:27] <intuos_pen> arrick: if you're backed up already, then you're good to go. reinstall.  :)
[07:27] <valberg> i have absolutely no experience with networking...
[07:27] <Frogzoo> valberg: configure both machines as if they were both plugged into the same hub
[07:27] <intuos_pen> valberg: check the nfs server.
[07:27] <IdleOne> how do I get du /home/username/.chat2/files to show me in the result in Gb?
[07:28] <Frogzoo> valberg: oh, but you need static ip addresses, not dhcp
[07:28] <Chicken-Man> >> http://pastebin.com/644414 need help getting LG3D running <<
[07:28] <polpak> IdleOne, du -sh /home/username/.chat2/files
[07:28] <gnomefreak> Chicken-Man: ubuntu doesnt support the looking glass project that s java's baby
[07:28] <valberg> Frogzoo, how do i get them ?
[07:28] <valberg> Frogzoo, the machines are not online...
[07:28] <Chicken-Man> gnomefreak, why :-/ ?
[07:28] <valberg> Frogzoo, and usually i use dhcp
[07:28] <polpak> IdleOne, you can do it without the s I just tend to prefer summery info
[07:28] <gnomefreak> Chicken-Man: best place to start would be java
[07:28] <gnomefreak> #java
[07:28] <gnomefreak> Chicken-Man: java is non-free
[07:29] <Chicken-Man> gnomefreak, I thought it was free....
[07:29] <polpak> Chicken-Man, free as in beer != free as in speech
[07:29] <gnomefreak> Chicken-Man: java is non-free   (free to use but not gpl'd)
[07:29] <Bambino> can i have macromedia flash on my 64bit amd? Or is it only for 32 bit
[07:29] <Chicken-Man> ahhh :-P
[07:29] <intuos_pen> valberg: that needs a book --> TCP/IP Network Administration by Craig Hunt (published by Oreilly & Associates).
[07:29] <intuos_pen> valberg: get the 3rd edition.
[07:29] <IdleOne> polpak, thank you
[07:30] <maru_chan> is it easier to install a windows partion on my current one that has non, or an empty hd i have laying around
[07:30] <polpak> IdleOne, np =)
[07:30] <maru_chan> ?
[07:30] <gnomefreak> Bambino: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-f375cba46014e861cd5ec7643bd7c4ef05acff2b
[07:30] <polpak> maru_chan, it's easier on a new hd, only because you don't have to move the partitions around.. It just takes time. A new HD would be faster
[07:30] <maru_chan> okay
[07:30] <gnomefreak> Bambino: towards the middle-bottom of page you will see flash for 64 and ppc
[07:31] <maru_chan> so i can dual boot with the extra hd
[07:31] <bluey> hmm, i installed xfonts-artwiz, added the FontPath to xorg.conf, yet the fonts don't appear in the xlsfonts list, any ideas?
[07:31] <polpak> maru_chan, yes
[07:31] <gnomefreak> Bambino: gplflash is recommended
[07:31] <Frogzoo> maru_chan: yes indeed - just edit /etc/boot/menu.lst
[07:32] <maru_chan> edit and add what
[07:32] <polpak> !tell maru_chan about dualboot
[07:32] <Bambino> gnomefreak, is that to view flash movies. I want it so i can watch flash enabled websites?
[07:32] <maru_chan> do i edit before instal it
[07:32] <Frogzoo> maru_chan: then run update-grub
[07:32] <gnomefreak> Bambino: yes i think its a gpl'ed version of flash
[07:32] <maru_chan> okay
[07:32] <maru_chan> thx
[07:32] <gnomefreak> Bambino: look on the site i gave you it tells all about it
[07:33] <valberg> Frogzoo, how do i configure my machines to connect to the same hub as you mentioned ?
[07:35] <bluey> hmm, i installed xfonts-artwiz, added the FontPath to xorg.conf, yet the fonts don't appear in the xlsfonts list, any ideas?
[07:35] <irvken> whats ubuntu like at doing wireless out of the box?
[07:35] <zegnus> hi !
[07:35] <zegnus> anyboy have an usb tv tuner in ubuntu ?
[07:36] <adampong> hallo
[07:36] <ere> have anyone set up a solution automating ubuntu desktops via deb packages? (with a local repository consisting of a package where the installscripts do maintenance tasks (like installing customized files in /etc), my plan is to add a line to (ana)cron to upgrade this package periodically
[07:37] <IdleOne> !tell irvken about wireless
[07:38] <bluey> !tell bluey about xfonts-artwiz
[07:38] <bluey> ubotu i dunno what is 'xfonts-artwiz'.
[07:38] <ubotu> bluey: I think you lost me on that one
[07:38] <bluey> :/
[07:39] <bluey> it's a package that installs, but doesn't work when added as a FontPath in xorg.conf
[07:39] <mthakur> how do i get into the root
[07:39] <sorush20> guys i'm not so sure if my usb 2.0 is being recognised properly... any idea's now I can check?
[07:40] <bluey> mthakur: su - root
[07:40] <mthakur> how do you install software
[07:40] <sorush20> It taked a long time to transfer the files from my digi cam to the computer.. v slow... its only about 23 mb and it takes about 50 sec.
[07:40] <valberg_> mthakur: use synaptic
[07:40] <bluey> mthakur: apt-get install <package>
[07:40] <sorush20> its a dx card..
[07:40] <mthakur> no i mean from cd
[07:41] <slack_prad> which CD?
[07:41] <mthakur> i mean cd for a win xp
[07:42] <slack_prad> does it have linux software?
[07:42] <roel_> Hello, i just installed ubuntu 5.10 i've xp installed on disk1 with 2 ntfs partitions and i installed ubunto on a second disk. When i open " diskmanagement" i sees my ntfs partitions  and they are accesable, but when ik use brows i see nothing. Acces path= / Could some one help me. I'm a newbee as you maybe notice. And as help could be in dutch it would be best :P
[07:43] <Jimmey__> How can I restart apache?
[07:43] <mthakur> thanks mate
[07:44] <Misnix> roel_, probeer #ubuntu-nl
[07:44] <Eyel-e-ss> hi
[07:44] <roel_> dankje, zal eens proberen
[07:44] <Bigtoe> Jimmey: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP?action=show&redirect=Apache#head-a155ef9b4d5838eb849bf9f6eed389e013ec6134
[07:45] <Jimmey__> Bigtoe, I'm not using Apache 2,
[07:45] <bluey> Problem list so far: (1) Video no longer works (xv/X11) after i installed fglrx ati driver, even though direct rendering is enabled. (2) Additional fonts aren't working when added to xorg.conf. (3) Some gtk apps don't take on the gnome theme - xmms, audacity.
[07:45] <intelikey> so ubuntu-desktop doesn't depend on any cdburning app ?
[07:45] <Bigtoe> Jimmy, is there an apache ctl file in /usr/sbin?
[07:46] <vge> or try "sudo /etc/init.d/apache restart"  (just a huntch)
[07:47] <gnomefreak> !ubuntu-desktop
[07:47] <ubotu> ubuntu-desktop is, like, a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when ugprading.
[07:48] <Jimmey__> Yeah
[07:48] <Eyel-e-ss> anyone fancy giving me a little help? :) ubuntu virgin here
[07:48] <chx> hi. i would like to install ubuntu by downloading as few as possible...
[07:48] <elcuco> ./j #mono
[07:48] <daan> hey guys, a little question. i'm trying to open an .exe file with wine here, but the icon has like a lock icon in the top right corner so i can't open it, how do i enable opening?
[07:49] <puntalicosa> ciao
[07:49] <Jimmey__> vge, bang on, Bigtoe, vge, thanks
[07:49] <mlehrer> Eyel-e-ss: what's the question
[07:49] <jason_> what is the linux equiv to ipconfig?
[07:49] <vge> Jimmey__: lucky me
[07:49] <vge> jason_: ifconfig
[07:49] <daan> hey guys, a little question. i'm trying to open an .exe file with wine here, but the icon has like a lock icon in the top right corner so i can't open it, how do i enable opening?
[07:49] <jason_> thx vge
[07:49] <puntalicosa> cheb fate di bello?
[07:50] <vge> Eyel-e-ss: ask, dont ask permission to ask :)
[07:50] <Jimmey__> daan, you need to change the file permissions
[07:50] <Eyel-e-ss> mlehrer hi, i was given a ubuntu CD from a friend at work and tried the live cd thru boot up. once i had selected language and so forth, it started listing when processes it was carring out (i think) and then i get an error about something being wrong with my gfx
[07:50] <Jimmey__> cd /directory/where.exe/is
[07:50] <jason_> is there an osx emu?
[07:50] <Jimmey__> sudo chmod + x nameof.exe
[07:51] <polpak> Eyel-e-ss, what video card do you have?
[07:51] <Eyel-e-ss> i couldn;t see the error it displayed as the screen filled with $$$'s and other letters :(
[07:51] <intelikey> ok   hmmm it says nautilus-cd-burner is already installed.  why is there no mention of it in the menus ?
[07:51] <Eyel-e-ss> ati x850
[07:51] <daan> Jimmey__: thanks mate
[07:51] <sfar> when i ./configure i often get "PKG_CONFIG_PATH"-errors.. can someone give me guidelines how to fix them?
[07:51] <polpak> Eyel-e-ss, did it finish booting?
[07:51] <jeddy3> intelikey, it's in places right?
[07:51] <Eyel-e-ss> no :( it just tells me to restart
[07:51] <Eyel-e-ss> but
[07:52] <Eyel-e-ss> i tried it in virtual pc, it gets past that stage but the screen is......like some kind of wide screen and all the colours seem.....brown and black lines
[07:52] <Eyel-e-ss> lol
[07:52] <arrick> ok guys
[07:52] <jeddy3> intelikey, or enter burn:/// in nautilus
[07:52] <jason_> what about video codecs?  I cannot play the movies i could on my winxp install... any ideas?
[07:52] <intelikey> jeddy3 not that i can find.
[07:52] <Eyel-e-ss> i could take a screen cap but have no idea where to host it lol
[07:52] <jason_> i am using totem movie player....
[07:52] <polpak> !tell jason_ about restricted
[07:52] <intelikey> jeddy3 k ill try that.
[07:53] <vge> !win32codecs
[07:53] <ubotu> somebody said win32codecs was binary only codecs that some call evil., and they're available from http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/
[07:53] <vge> jason_: try those
[07:53] <arrick> I have a 20GB primary master, and a 3GB secondary master, I am going to run the ubuntu server with apache, proftpd, and ssh, ow should I set the partitions up?
[07:53] <polpak> Eyel-e-ss, what version of ubuntu is the CD?
[07:53] <jason_> how to replace with !freeformats?
[07:53] <Eyel-e-ss> polpak 5.10
[07:53] <polpak> jason_, you'd have to convert the files to a free format
[07:53] <_jason> !freeformats
[07:53] <ubotu> There are a large number of Free Formats which are preferred over patent and copyright encumbered formats. They are listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[07:53] <arrick> !freeformats
[07:54] <jeddy3> intelikey, hmm, seems it's installed but not present, on this computer without a burner in also...maybe it doesn't recognize it?
[07:54] <arrick> _jason, looks like you got a new namesake
[07:54] <arrick> hehe
[07:54] <jason_> ??
[07:54] <_jason> jason_: hi :)
[07:54] <polpak> Eyel-e-ss, hrm.. Not sure what to suggest. Without knowing what the error message is that is.
[07:54] <arrick> haha
[07:54] <jason_> :)
[07:55] <jason_> is there any way to view without converting?
[07:55] <_jason> jason_: yes, follow the restricted formats page
[07:55] <john_> I want to beable to share  files between a xp computer, and linex computer and a ubuntu computer.  I cannot get pass the password
[07:55] <polpak> jason_, follow the restriced formats wiki
[07:55] <intelikey> maybe it doesn't.  every other system finds it D nada
[07:55] <Eyel-e-ss> polpak i know, was worth a try heh. i can't seem to see the actual error code tho as the font seems crazy
[07:55] <polpak> john_, type in your password
[07:55] <arrick> I have a 20GB primary master, and a 3GB secondary master, I am going to run the ubuntu server with apache, proftpd, and ssh, ow should I set the partitions up? intuos_pen
[07:55] <intuos_pen> arrick: whelps.
[07:55] <polpak> Eyel-e-ss, try it without the virtual pc.. if you can get the error message then it'd really help
[07:56] <arrick> huh, intuos_pen ?
[07:56] <john_> I did, would not accept it.  It is the same password that I use to log in with
[07:56] <Eyel-e-ss> polpak right, i'll be back soon....i hope
[07:56] <intuos_pen> arrick: try 128Mb primary partition for hda1 mount it as /boot.
[07:56] <intuos_pen> arrick: 10Gb for hda2 mount point is "/".
[07:56] <arrick> can you join #arrick and walk me through that, intuos_pen I dont want to mess it up again
[07:57] <buddens> is there a backport of kernel 2.6.15 for ubuntu 5.10 ?
[07:57] <Rondom> buddens: kernels aren't backported
[07:57] <buddens> k
[07:58] <john_> My log in password was not accepted when I tried to log in the network
[07:58] <buddens> so if i want anything > 2.6.12 i need to build it myself i guess
[07:58] <Rondom> buddens: either wait or update to dapper, now
[07:58] <Rondom> buddens: or compile your own kernel :D
[07:59] <ubuntu> hello!!!1
[07:59] <john_> Do I need to reload?
[08:00] <astronouth7303> Do you guys support eclipse installations from "Add Application"?
[08:00] <Jemt> I don't get it.. I'm trying to make all my applications on the taskbar the same size (like in Windows). In properties for the taskbar I can specify a min. and max. width for the applications. Defaults is min=50 and max=4096. The funny thing is that it looks great changing both variables to 800 pixels. The result is tasks about 100 pixels wide. Is it a bug ?
[08:01] <astronouth7303> I'm having problems installing Eclipse CDT through the update site
[08:01] <john_> Am I in the wrong place?
[08:03] <john_> thanks for the tips
[08:04] <ohgood> would someone like to point me to a 'floppy install howto' for whatever the latest version is ? i'm going ot install via qemu, with a linux host. thanks.
[08:05] <gnomefreak> !install
[08:05] <ubotu> Installing Ubuntu? See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation Installing software on Ubuntu? See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingSoftware
[08:05] <gnomefreak> ohgood: first link there
[08:05] <gnomefreak> it should have it if possible
[08:05] <ohgood> gnomefreak: 'advanced installa-blah' looks nice. thanky kindly
[08:05] <gnomefreak> ohgood: yw
[08:06] <intelikey> oh it's possable.  this is linux.  question is 'is it worthi it'
[08:06] <gnomefreak> is what worth what?
[08:06] <gnomefreak> oh nm read it wrong
[08:06] <intelikey> :)
[08:07] <jason_> okay, i enabled universe and multiverse, installed the gst packages listed in the wiki, and toteme still says no decoder....
[08:07] <polpak> jason_, did you install the win32 codecs?
[08:07] <intelikey> yeah i need to go build a golf cart, just too lazy....
[08:07] <polpak> jason_, and totem-xine?
[08:07] <gnomefreak> jason_: totem-xine
[08:07] <jason_> no, did not see in article...
[08:07] <kreig> so, I upgraded my lc2100 to Dapper
[08:08] <kingspawn> enormously off topic, but do any of you guys know how to make a html table NOT center its information?
[08:08] <kreig> and now no video at all on boot
[08:08] <kreig> not even bios video
[08:08] <gnomefreak> kreig: dapper talk in at #ubuntu+1
[08:08] <kreig> grazzi
[08:08] <Rondom> kingspawn: valign="top"
[08:09] <kingspawn> Rondom: thank you
[08:09] <intelikey> not even bios video ?
[08:09] <kreig> nope
[08:09] <mthakur> how do u install php 4.1 in ubuntu
[08:09] <kreig> the cd spins up, and the HD light comes on 8)
[08:09] <ohgood> wicked! just remembered about dbootstrap. fun.
[08:09] <mwe> mthakur: isn't the php4 package php-4.1?
[08:09] <mthakur> yes probably
[08:09] <gnomefreak> it is
[08:10] <mthakur> it is
[08:10] <mwe> mthakur: then install that
[08:10] <mthakur> how?
[08:10] <gnomefreak> mthakur: sudo apt-get install php4
[08:10] <gnomefreak> ^^ just a hint
[08:10] <mwe> mthakur: do you want it to work with apache or what?
[08:10] <x3m_> jason_: sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse gstreamer0.8-lame libmodplug0c2 gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg sox ffmpeg vorbis-tools qjackctl jack-tools meterbridge libjackasyn0 sidplay-base xsidplay libqt3-mt-psql libqt3-mt-mysql libqt3-mt-odbc
[08:10] <intelikey> kreig doesn't sound like a linux error.   "could have been caused by linux?" but sounds like a hardware issue.
[08:10] <mthakur> wots apache?
[08:10] <intuos_pen> kreig, "the cd spins up, and the HD light comes on" this reminds me of the standard troubleshooting speil of dell call center  tech support. lol.
[08:10] <gnomefreak> !apache
[08:10] <ubotu> I heard apache is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[08:10] <mwe> mthakur: the world best web server
[08:10] <polpak> !lamp
[08:10] <ubotu> Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[08:11] <mthakur> so how do u install that
[08:11] <ohgood> hear hear mwe
[08:11] <kreig> It did reboot once!
[08:11] <mwe> ohgood: :|
[08:11] <intelikey> kreig for safty, power off  and  check the vidio cable and the power to the monitor.
[08:11] <kreig> it's laptop 8)
[08:11] <jenatmcds> any suggestions regarding a VERY SLOW install.  Have an IBM Aptiva POS with 233 AMD K6 II - 256 RAM - 80GB HD with previous FC2 overwriting.  Has been going for 18 HOURS! - and at 22% of "creating ext3 in partition".  I know that this machine is a piece of junk but it is for a kid who is mostly going to use internet.
[08:11] <ohgood> mwe: translation- I agree.
[08:11] <Eyel-e-ss> hi again :D
[08:11] <bence_> hi
[08:11] <Eyel-e-ss> polpak i got as much of the error msg as i could
[08:11] <intelikey> well scratch that then....
[08:12] <polpak> Eyel-e-ss, ok
[08:12] <kreig> intelikey: I pulled the batter out too.  We'll see what their support says
[08:12] <bence__> hi
[08:12] <mthakur> thanks mate
[08:12] <intelikey> yeah cause that really sounds hardware'ish
[08:12] <kreig> it makes me very sad
[08:12] <Eyel-e-ss> "failed to start x server (user interface). it is likely that it is not setup correctly. would you like to view the x server output to diagnose the problem" but it doesn't let me view. just boots back to cmd line
[08:12] <bence_> Exit
[08:12] <kreig> heh
[08:13] <Eyel-e-ss> polpak  ^^
[08:13] <theine> is anybody using google talk's voice features under Ubuntu?
[08:13] <danicuny_> hello i need help with apt-get
[08:13] <Eyel-e-ss> i checked the res. it asks to be displayed at
[08:13] <intelikey> i stand under you kreig,   synphony  too
[08:13] <Eyel-e-ss> and 800*600 is selected
[08:13] <apokryphos> danicuny_: what's the problem?
[08:13] <Eyel-e-ss> i dont see why that would cause problems
[08:13] <danicuny_> i can't seem to get any programs to get into the computer
[08:13] <astronouth7303> Running Eclipse through gksudo, when I try to mess with the installed features, it says there's an error, the feature.xml doesn't exist. (Directory does, not file). How do I fix this?
[08:14] <danicuny_> i am so confused on how to use apt-get
[08:14] <_jason> ubotu: tell danicuny_ about apt
[08:14] <apokryphos> danicuny_: use Synaptic
[08:14] <gnomefreak> astronouth7303: why would you run eclipse with gksudo or sudo?
[08:14] <astronouth7303> to install plugins
[08:14] <astronouth7303> ie CDT
[08:14] <j_ack> bye
[08:14] <gnomefreak> astronouth7303: you dont need to run it with any permissions
[08:14] <astronouth7303> ok
[08:14] <intelikey> danicuny_  syntax;  sudo apt-get install <package>
[08:15] <danicuny_> thats what i need to type
[08:15] <astronouth7303> it was one of the suggestions in the wiki, let me try normal
[08:15] <Bigtoe> danicuny: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto?action=show&redirect=AptGetHowTo
[08:15] <IdleOne> !tell danicuny_ about apt
[08:15] <apokryphos> danicuny_: use Synaptic
[08:15] <danicuny_> what is synaptic
[08:15] <gnomefreak> intelikey: i dont know about you but it always ssays cant find package package :(
[08:15] <apokryphos> !syndaptic
[08:15] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, apokryphos
[08:15] <apokryphos> !synaptic
[08:15] <ubotu> somebody said synaptic was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[08:15] <intelikey> danicuny_  syntax;  apt-cache search <package>    <--- to find the exact name for the install line.
[08:15] <apokryphos> danicuny_: check that link
[08:15] <polpak> Eyel-e-ss, well, there's 2 options
[08:16] <apokryphos> intelikey: I really think we should just recommend Synaptic for beginners
[08:16] <danicuny_> ok hold on i will check link
[08:16] <intelikey> gnomefreak that's why i gave the second line.
[08:16] <gnomefreak> lol
[08:16] <polpak> Eyel-e-ss,  you can either try actually installing with an install CD on a separate partition or you can burn a live CD of dapper
[08:16] <Eyel-e-ss> dapper?
[08:16] <jason_> x3m_ could not find gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse or gstreamer0.8-lame
[08:16] <gnomefreak> !dapper
[08:16] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[08:17] <polpak> Eyel-e-ss, the next version of ubuntu it's not technically "stable" but it works pretty well
[08:17] <gnomefreak> jason_: what version of ubuntu?
[08:17] <polpak> Eyel-e-ss, and might have better support for your card
[08:17] <jason_> 5.1 ??
[08:17] <apokryphos> or worse
[08:17] <intelikey> apokryphos i think we should set the installer to open 'man man'  and they would at least know that there was a "help" command for what ever.
[08:17] <Eyel-e-ss> polpak where could i get the live cd of that from? :)
[08:17] <gnomefreak> !info gstreamer
[08:17] <_jason> intelikey: how would they get out heh
[08:17] <gnomefreak> !restricted
[08:17] <ubotu> I guess restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[08:17] <gnomefreak> jason_: ^^^
[08:18] <intelikey> _jason i guess they would have to read up,   don't you ?
[08:18] <Eyel-e-ss> and how would i install ubuntu as a dual boot? i got 3 hard drives, c:\ = windows. d:\ = programs and e:\ = newest drive so its best for ubuntu to be installed on lol
[08:18] <_jason> intelikey: does man man go into using q to exit?  let me check
[08:18] <_jason> jason_: did you enable universe and multiverse?
[08:19] <polpak> Eyel-e-ss, for dapper http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/releases/dapper/flight-6/
[08:19] <polpak> !tell Eyel-e-ss about dualboot
[08:19] <danicuny_> ok i do it and it ask sfor password??? what password
[08:19] <intelikey> Eyel-e-ss the installer is made just for that.   but read the wiki on dualboot  first.
[08:19] <jason_> _jason, yes
[08:19] <Eyel-e-ss> sweet :)
[08:19] <polpak> Eyel-e-ss, ubotu sent you a message about dualboot
[08:19] <Eyel-e-ss> thanks for the help :)
[08:19] <intelikey> !dualboot
[08:19] <ubotu> for wintel https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo :for the Mac https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[08:19] <Eyel-e-ss> yea, just got it heh
[08:20] <polpak> Eyel-e-ss, if you are installing it though I'd recommend trying breezy first
[08:20] <_jason> jason_: those packages are in multiverse.  When you used synaptic to enable the repositories did you remember to edit all of the universe ones and change it to say universe multiverse?
[08:20] <Eyel-e-ss> breezy? lol
[08:20] <intelikey> oops polpak wasn't reading you.... sorry for the dubble.
[08:20] <polpak> Eyel-e-ss, the current stable version of ubuntu
[08:20] <polpak> Eyel-e-ss, 5.10
[08:20] <jason_> i just checked the one that said multiverse
[08:20] <vge> somebody can help me, cos when i use my new 2.6.17 kernel, i cant connect to IRC? all other networks/Internet works fine?
[08:20] <Eyel-e-ss> ooo ok :)
[08:20] <polpak> Eyel-e-ss, I was just suggesting dapper for the Live CD
[08:20] <polpak> Eyel-e-ss, if you didn't want to install just yet
[08:21] <Eyel-e-ss> i'l give it a try :)
[08:21] <gerhard_> i have another problem
[08:21] <purple^haze> after installing kernel 2.6.15-20-386 i get error while apt-get update Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/universe/binary-i386/Packages.bz2  MD5Sum mismatch
[08:21] <Eyel-e-ss> i haven't got much on here to lose anyway :D
[08:21] <_jason> jason_: that will only give you breezy-backpoorts multiverse.  Check the wiki page on adding multiverse again, press ctrl-f and enter ``multiverse''.  There is a sentence that explains what you need to do
[08:21] <purple^haze> anybody know anything
[08:21] <gerhard_> with my ASUS something notebook, I cant play any sounds
[08:21] <Eyel-e-ss> polpak thanks for your time and i hope to see u here when i get it all workin :)
[08:21] <gerhard_> the software volume is at 100%
[08:21] <gerhard_> what could be the mistake?
[08:22] <intelikey> purple^haze sudo aptget update
[08:22] <IdleOne> !freenx
[08:22] <ubotu> from memory, freenx is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX
[08:22] <jenatmcds> gerhard_can you get sound from CD
[08:22] <purple^haze> intelikey,  thats what im doing
[08:23] <purple^haze> Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-backports/multiverse Sources
[08:23] <purple^haze> Fetched 2442kB in 5s (474kB/s)
[08:23] <purple^haze> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/universe/binary-i386/Packages.bz2  MD5Sum mismatch
[08:23] <purple^haze> Reading package lists... Done
[08:23] <purple^haze> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[08:23] <intelikey> !flood
[08:23] <ubotu> I guess flood is for pasting, please use http://pastebin.com , http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or #flood here on freenode.
[08:23] <alapzaj> anybody can help me? my apache don't work but, i don't see any in log files...
[08:23] <AlexC_> Hey,
[08:23] <_jason> intelikey: heh I don't think man man tells you how to quit, at least I can't find it :P
[08:23] <astronouth7303> oh, lovely. Normal doesn't work at all. <http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11614> is the error log
[08:23] <apokryphos> alapzaj: what's the error?
[08:23] <AlexC_> I'm following this guide: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=131253 and at Step 6 - I put compiz ABOVEgnome-window
[08:23] <gerhard_> err
[08:23] <alapzaj> apache don't listen on port 80
[08:23] <AlexC_> I can't delete it to put it right - how do I do this?
[08:23] <gerhard_> i have no CD here
[08:23] <gerhard_> but mp3 wont give sound
[08:23] <alapzaj> and i can't start apache
[08:24] <apokryphos> alapzaj: that's an issue to take up with your firewall/router or whatever
[08:24] <_jason> alapzaj: did you install from the repository?
[08:24] <gerhard_> wav either
[08:24] <cPanel> Hi, Do i need an software-firewall when using linux?
[08:24] <alapzaj> i type /etc/init.d/apache
[08:24] <apokryphos> or an apache misconfiguration
[08:24] <apokryphos> alapzaj: dpkg -l|grep apache ...gives?
[08:24] <_jason> alapzaj: you probably need sudo
[08:24] <alapzaj> i don't have firewall
[08:24] <gerhard_> no, cPanel i think not
[08:24] <cPanel> Great
[08:24] <intelikey> -jason hmmm maybe i thinking of man intro
[08:24] <apokryphos> alapzaj: pastebin it if it's more than a couple of lines.
[08:24] <jason_> at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto?action=show&redirect=HowToEnableTheMultiverseRepositoryInUbuntu ????
[08:24] <purple^haze> cPanel,  u can use firestarter
[08:25] <alapzaj> apache und apache2 common in dpkg
[08:25] <_jason> intelikey: yes, that one sounds good
[08:25] <drbreen> hello
[08:25] <apokryphos> alapzaj: remove apache, and leave apache2 installed
[08:25] <AlexC_> I'm following this guide: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=131253 and at Step 6 - I put compiz ABOVE gnome-window - The delete button is grayed otu so I can't delete them to re-order them
[08:25] <cPanel> i'll check that up. And whe i updated ubuntu today, i can't share internet to my laptop anymore. Windows XP pro on the laptop
[08:25] <drbreen> can someone say hello to me and my name cause im showing off kopetes cools features
[08:25] <drbreen> plz
[08:25] <AlexC_> How can I fix this? Will it screw XGL up by having compiz above gnome-window
[08:25] <intelikey> jason  The  program man sends the text
[08:25] <intelikey>        through some pager, usually less.  Hit the space bar to  get  the  next
[08:25] <apokryphos> drbreen: aloha
[08:25] <_jason> drbreen: hello to me and my name
[08:25] <intelikey>        page, hit q to quit.
[08:26] <intelikey> from man intro
[08:26] <gerhard_> any ideas what could be the problem?
[08:26] <IdleOne> drbreen, heya :)
[08:26] <LinuxJones> cPanel: you can do an online scan from like grc.com just to be sure.
[08:26] <apokryphos> drbreen: from my experience though kopete pretty sucks for IRC :P
[08:26] <alapzaj> apokryphos: ii  apache                                      1.3.33-8ubuntu1              versatile, high-performance HTTP server
[08:26] <alapzaj> ii  apache-common                               1.3.33-8ubuntu1              support files for all Apache webservers
[08:26] <alapzaj> ii  apache2                                     2.0.54-5ubuntu4              next generation, scalable, extendable web se
[08:26] <alapzaj> ii  apache2-common                              2.0.54-5ubuntu4              next generation, scalable, extendable web se
[08:26] <alapzaj> ii  apache2-mpm-prefork                         2.0.54-5ubuntu4              traditional model for Apache2
[08:26] <alapzaj> ii  apache2-utils                               2.0.54-5ubuntu4              utility programs for webservers
[08:26] <_jason> ubotu: tell alapzaj about paste
[08:26] <AlexC_> use pastebin!
[08:26] <drbreen> apokryphos: what do you suggest ?
[08:26] <alapzaj> sry
[08:26] <apokryphos> I did say pastebin :)
[08:27] <AlexC_> I'm following this guide: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=131253 and at Step 6 - I put compiz ABOVE gnome-window - The delete button is grayed otu so I can't delete them to re-order them
[08:27] <apokryphos> alapzaj: remove all non-apache2 stuff, so you just have apache2*
[08:27] <alapzaj> alapzaj: pastebin it if it's more than a couple of lines
[08:27] <alapzaj> you said this
[08:27] <alapzaj> :D
[08:27] <LinuxJones> alapzaj: it happens all the time :)
[08:27] <apokryphos> alapzaj: i.e. so you still have apache2-common etc etc
[08:27] <gerhard_> help me please!
[08:27] <jenatmcds> an hour later and still at 22% - I am considering going back to Fedora
[08:27] <alapzaj> so apache or apache2 ?
[08:27] <alapzaj> only apache2?
[08:27] <apokryphos> yes
[08:28] <apokryphos> having them both is known to cause problems
[08:28] <alapzaj> but it works yesterday evening
[08:28] <drbreen> should i use konversation instead of kopete for irc ?
[08:28] <Cooner750> Is there a default password for 'root'?
[08:28] <apokryphos> alapzaj: there is absolutely no reason to leave apache 1.3 installed.
[08:28] <djm62> Cooner750: there is no root password
[08:28] <intelikey> jenatmcds yeah you probably should.
[08:28] <apokryphos> Cooner750: /msg ubotu sudo
[08:28] <djm62> Cooner750: use sudo
[08:28] <intuos_pen> Cooner750, none.
[08:28] <_jason> jenatmcds: sounds like something is wrong because that's unusual, though I don't really know what
[08:29] <intuos_pen> Cooner750, if you want to set one, you could do "sudo passwd root".
[08:29] <jenatmcds> gerhard_curious does sound card come up in device manager
[08:29] <apokryphos> intuos_pen: please don't recommend that :)
[08:29] <alapzaj> apokryphos: i removed apache but don't work...
[08:29] <abbot45> can someone please tell me how i can tell how much RAM my computer is seeing?  my chips don't have anything on them that tells me and i just got this older computer from a friend.
[08:29] <apokryphos> intuos_pen: standard procedure is to recommend the usage of sudo, before they start trying to use conventional root :)
[08:29] <ohgood> abbot45: free
[08:29] <gerhard_> jenatmcds wheres that device manager? been using linux since yesterday^^
[08:29] <_jason> abbot45: cat /proc/meminfo
[08:29] <apokryphos> alapzaj: pastebin the output of dpkg -l|grep apache now, then
[08:29] <Sk8aZ> can anyone teach me how to connect wireless with wep (on dwl-520+)?
[08:30] <intelikey> abbot45 dmesg
[08:30] <jenatmcds> gerhard_ under system - Administration
[08:30] <alapzaj> same
[08:30] <apokryphos> pastebin, please.
[08:30] <alapzaj> i see apache 1.3 and apache 2 both
[08:30] <apokryphos> !pastebin
[08:30] <ubotu> pastebin is probably http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[08:30] <gerhard_> jenatmcds thx
[08:30] <apokryphos> alapzaj: well, why is 1.3 there? I did say remove it =)
[08:30] <abbot45> thanks guys
[08:31] <alapzaj> i typed apt-get -f  remove apache apache-commin
[08:31] <alapzaj> and removed
[08:31] <alapzaj> root@essence:/home/tomek# dpkg -l|grep apache
[08:31] <alapzaj> rc  apache                                      1.3.33-8ubuntu1              versatile, high-performance HTTP server
[08:31] <alapzaj> rc  apache-common                               1.3.33-8ubuntu1              support files for all Apache webservers
[08:31] <alapzaj> ii  apache2                                     2.0.54-5ubuntu4              next generation, scalable, extendable web se
[08:31] <alapzaj> ii  apache2-common                              2.0.54-5ubuntu4              next generation, scalable, extendable web se
[08:31] <Jimmey__> Is there any way I can check who's on my network, and their ips?
[08:31] <alapzaj> ii  apache2-mpm-prefork                         2.0.54-5ubuntu4              traditional model for Apache2
[08:31] <_jason> pastebin alapzaj ...
[08:31] <alapzaj> ii  apache2-utils                               2.0.54-5ubuntu4              utility programs for webservers
[08:31] <ohgood> good gawd man
[08:31] <gerhard_> jenatmcds i dont really know
[08:31] <jason_> ok, thanx for all the help.  I now have multiverse and can get the gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse, however, i cannot watch video as the codec is wrong.  how to get win32 codecs like xVid?
[08:31] <apokryphos> alapzaj: I already told you earlier to not paste to the channel. It floods it and is annoying.
[08:31] <Shootingstar> why he get banned?
[08:31] <djm62> Jimmey__: you could log into the router, if it's your network
[08:32] <LinuxJones> alapzaj: dude wtf ?
[08:32] <gerhard_> jenatmcds i think its in there
[08:32] <gerhard_> now?
[08:32] <Jimmey__> djm62, I could, but there's no way of telling who's on the network
[08:32] <Shootingstar> why did he get banned????????????????????????????????
[08:32] <djm62> Jimmey__: ah, no DHCP table?
[08:32] <LinuxJones> Shootingstar: for spamming the channel
[08:32] <Sk8aZ> can anyone teach me how to connect wireless with wep (on dwl-520+) ?
[08:32] <apokryphos> Shootingstar: please don't use consecutive punctuation like that. Read above, the reason was provided.
[08:32] <FliesLikeALap> Shootingstar using more ?? doesn't get you any more [positive]  attention
[08:32] <ohgood> Shootingstar: generally, only one mark is needed for puncuation. :)
[08:33] <ohgood> man, i must type slow today. :)
[08:33] <intelikey> !tell Sk8aZ about wifi
[08:33] <LinuxJones> Sk8aZ: search the forums
[08:33] <arrick> Anyone: is there any way to get the gnome gui without all the games, and all the extra stuff, like gimp, and such?
[08:33] <jason_> anyone know how to get win32 video codecs for totem?
[08:33] <Jimmey__> djm62, I never knew to look for one, but even then, some of the people on the network are static
[08:33] <Shootingstar> will he get un banned or is it permanite?
[08:33] <IdleOne> !tell jason_ about w32codecs
[08:33] <apokryphos> jason_: /msg ubotu restricted
[08:33] <_jason> jason_: it's on the restricted formats page
[08:33] <vge> arrick: you can install em to kde with apt-get?
[08:33] <apokryphos> Shootingstar: temporary
[08:34] <roryy> permanite cancels my superpowers!
[08:34] <_jason> haha
[08:34] <djm62> Jimmey__: you /could/ use nmap: but it can be blocked and/or considered rude.  in other words, best to go and ask people their IPs rather than ask if you can use it
[08:34] <Master-> How do i set the screen site in terminal?
[08:34] <intelikey> arrick sure.  install server mode and apt-get gnome
[08:34] <LinuxJones> Shootingstar: he did it twice (within 5 minutes) and was told the first time not to do it again
[08:34] <Master-> size
[08:34] <Shootingstar> I just dont get what the big deal was he was trying to help
[08:34] <alexw> msg nickserv identify courgette
[08:35] <Jimmey__> djm62, I can get the DHCP assigned IPs of people on the network, but not the statically assigned ones
[08:35] <alexw> oh bugger
[08:35] <arrick> thanks
[08:35] <apokryphos> Shootingstar: not really, he was being helped.
[08:35] <LinuxJones> heh
[08:35] <IdleOne> alexw, /msg nickserv blah blah
[08:35] <Jimmey__> djm62, I've got nmap, but how would I use it to get the ips of people on my network?
[08:35] <alexw> i know
[08:35] <IdleOne> :)
[08:35] <Marticus> base-config freezes at the point where it begins to configure X, because of the incompatiblity with the graphics board
[08:35] <Jimmey__> djm62, it's my network
[08:35] <apokryphos> Shootingstar: flooding is not looked highly upon in nearly all Freenode channels; even mentioned in the /topic
[08:35] <patrick52222> how do i find out which kernel i am running
[08:35] <_jason> alexw: use a server window from now on :)
[08:35] <Marticus> is there a way to skip the x config process so I can do it manually?
[08:35] <arrick> thnks intelikey
[08:35] <Jimmey__> partick52222, uname -a
[08:35] <gerhard_> whos going to help me with my sound? :(
[08:35] <vge> patrick52222: uname -a
[08:36] <vge> im slow T_T
[08:36] <Marticus> any thoughts?
[08:36] <Jimmey__> vge, beat you too it. I'm great.
[08:36] <apokryphos> Marticus: once you've started it? Not really.
[08:36] <alexw> _jason: when I started typing it was a server window :) X-chat auto-joined me
[08:36] <Marticus> apokryphos: I am in single user mode at the moment
[08:36] <intelikey> arrick be advised that server mode install  has no gui  so you will have to use the console for installing gnome and setting up xorg.   it's not hard but it is cli.
[08:36] <_jason> alexw: you could just let xchat auto-identify you
[08:36] <Marticus> I can't install the correct drivers manually because of apt-get failing in the middle of config process
[08:36] <Hannah> hi
[08:36] <arrick> yeah, I have already done all that twice on here
[08:36] <apokryphos> Marticus: terminal?
[08:37] <LinuxJones> gerhard_: sound setup on Ubuntu is not very easy to reconfigure, in my opinion :(
[08:37] <arrick> thanks for the heads up thogh intelikey
[08:37] <apokryphos> Marticus: just configure the xorg.conf and then restart X
[08:37] <Hannah> wot r u on bout
[08:37] <Marticus> apokryphos: yes it is a terminal situation, I'm afraid the time to live is short
[08:37] <vge> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=897009#post897009 <..anyone can help me on this one? :)
[08:37] <intelikey> arrick it is "ubuntu-desktop"  that bloats out your system.
[08:37] <Marticus> :)
[08:37] <djm62> Jimmey__: specify the range of IPs available to your subnet so that packets don't go everywhere, nmap will return a list of the ones that are "up"
[08:37] <Hannah> omg u sados
[08:37] <apokryphos> Marticus: time to live?
[08:37] <Marticus> apokryphos: base-config is still unfinished
[08:37] <Marticus> apokryphos: nevermind, it was a bad joke
[08:37] <alexw> _jason: ok, i'll look a that, thanks
[08:37] <jenatmcds> thanks for info - I am going to try "no apic" and retry - if I can't get it going I will probably go back to FC3 or 4
[08:37] <Jimmey__> djm62, got any examples of this?
[08:37] <Marticus> apokryphos: you asked if it was terminal
[08:37] <djm62> Jimmey__: you may have a hard time relating them to individual machines
[08:38] <apokryphos> =)
[08:38] <djm62> Jimmey__: not as many as man nmap ;)
[08:38] <Jimmey__> djm62, couldn't I just do that with ping?
[08:38] <Marticus> apokryphos: anyway, does tha tmake sense? I'm in the middle of the base-config process
[08:38] <Jimmey__> djm62, lol
[08:38] <Marticus> presently in single user mode
[08:38] <intelikey> !ubuntu-desktop
[08:38] <ubotu> hmm... ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when ugprading.
[08:38] <Marticus> attempting to install the correct drivers
[08:38] <Marticus> and then I will reboot and let the base-config process complete
[08:38] <apokryphos> alapzaj: please be sure to not paste several lines in here again
[08:38] <yaaar> word
[08:38] <djm62> Jimmey__: I'm never sure with ping how reliable the responses are...
[08:38] <arrick> ok thanks intelikey
[08:39] <apokryphos> Marticus: not quite sure what you're on about at all, I'm afraid :)
[08:39] <arrick> I thought so
[08:39] <Marticus> because baseconfig is still in inittab
[08:39] <intelikey> np
[08:39] <Jimmey__> djm62, do my research for me, you lazy get
[08:39] <djm62> Jimmey__: if you have a rough count of machines you can gauge the reliability of the results of whatever scan
[08:39] <Jimmey__> djm62, tehehe
[08:39] <Jimmey__> djm62, it's a home network
[08:39] <alexw> heh, looks like someone has got my nick and changed the password
[08:39] <blenda> how do i install a java jre on ubuntu? searching for "jre" on packages.ubuntu.com returns nothing useful.
[08:39] <apokryphos> blenda: /msg ubotu java
[08:39] <ubuntu> huh
[08:40] <ubuntu> Oh sweet
[08:40] <mthakur> thanks mate
[08:40] <djm62> Jimmey__: I would recommend trying the router first though.  lots of info comes in web interfaces and the like
[08:40] <ubuntu> Yo who wants some passwords and stuff
[08:40] <ubuntu> I got em right here.
[08:40] <Jimmey__> alexw, I thought that the other day whilst trying to log in with Gaim, if you are, close down and restart gaim
[08:40] <blenda> !javadebs
[08:40] <apokryphos> ubuntu: ?
[08:40] <Jimmey__> djm62, I did, it's a cute little linksys
[08:40] <ubuntu> No....I'm kidding.
[08:40] <gerhard_> mh
[08:40] <ubuntu> What's this chat room about?
[08:40] <gerhard_> i will leave for today
[08:40] <gerhard_> bye
[08:40] <apokryphos> ubuntu: /topic
[08:40] <Shootingstar> is there a way to get unbuntu without having linux?
[08:41] <ubuntu> oh
[08:41] <ubuntu> okay.
[08:41] <ubuntu> thanks.
[08:41] <djm62> Shootingstar: that is the most bizarre request I've seen in this room
[08:41] <Marticus> expert mode, base-config freezes during the process of detection of video card for X
[08:41] <Jimmey__> djm62, lol
[08:41] <Marticus> I can not move forward with the installation
[08:41] <ubuntu> Oh snaps...you guys know my ip address now?
[08:41] <Jimmey__> Shootingstar, Linux is the kernel that Ubuntu depends on to work. Without Linux, there's no Ubuntu
[08:41] <ubuntu> I don't have anything patched.
[08:42] <maxallen> I'm trying to get the fglrx driver working, and i'm getting a garbled screen on startup
[08:42] <Cooner750> What do I do with this error while trying to build a XMMS plugin? "configure: error: *** GDK_PIXBUF >= 0.21.0 not installed - please install first ***
[08:42] <Cooner750> "
[08:42] <maxallen> except for the cursor.
[08:42] <maxallen> the cursor is fine.
[08:42] <djm62> ubuntu: if you don't have a specific query, you might be better off in #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:42] <Shootingstar> is linux free?
[08:42] <Jimmey__> Shootingstar, yes.
[08:42] <Marticus> lol
[08:42] <saik0> Shootingstar, very much so
[08:42] <djm62> Shootingstar: yes, both in terms of money and freedom
[08:42] <ubuntu> Hey!...I wanna help someone.
[08:43] <ubuntu> Let me answer some questions.
[08:43] <apokryphos> Shootingstar: the Linux kernel is issued under the GPL license. "Free Software".
[08:43] <Shootingstar> Ok where do i get it and if i dont like it can i got back to windows?
[08:43] <ubuntu> Yeah, you can go back to windows.
[08:43] <intelikey> arrick i have ubuntu installed on this box "p1mmx 100mhz 98m ram  hdd=500m"  and fluxbox + fvwm95    but to install ubuntu-desktop  it would install 1.2g more.   but i could install gnome for only 620MB more.  hehhe more than my hd. but half of what it would take to install it via ub-desktop
[08:43] <Jimmey__> Shootingstar, you can have a dual boot
[08:43] <ubuntu> make sure you have backup
[08:43] <mwe> djm62: install libgdk-pixbuf-gnome2 maybe
[08:43] <djm62> Shootingstar: it's free, you can download it from the website, and you don't even need to install it to try it
[08:43] <Sk8aZ> who knows how to compile programs
[08:43] <maxallen> 2nd question- is there a way to keep x from starting on startup? just move the init.d file?
[08:43] <ubuntu> ...oh yeah...or dual boot.
[08:43] <mwe> Sk8aZ: ./configure && make
[08:43] <Shootingstar> how do you do a duel boot?
[08:43] <apokryphos> Sk8aZ: what are you trying to compile?
[08:43] <arrick> ok
[08:44] <ubuntu> I'm running live linux right now.
[08:44] <IdleOne> Sk8aZ, what program?
[08:44] <Marticus> suggest to me a way to get base-config to finish and not freeze during the video detection for X
[08:44] <maxallen> Shootingstar, ubuntu will set it up for you
[08:44] <maxallen> it will provide a menu on startup
[08:44] <mwe> Sk8aZ: there is usually a file called INSTALL that says how
[08:44] <Shootingstar> so download linux then ubuntu?
[08:44] <djm62> Shootingstar: if you don't have bandwidth or a CD burner, you can get a friend to make a copy for you, or Ubuntu will mail you a free CD
[08:44] <Marticus> no
[08:44] <intelikey> just pointing out the diff....
[08:44] <blenda> apokryphos: thanks!
[08:44] <IdleOne> !tell Sk8aZ about compile
[08:44] <ubuntu> Linux and ubuntu are the same thing dude
[08:44] <Marticus> download ubuntu, it comes with linux
[08:44] <saik0> maxallen, unless theres a change in dapper I'm unaware of, that still requires free space for repartitioning
[08:44] <Jimmey__> ubuntu, they're not
[08:44] <ubuntu> They're not?
[08:45] <djm62> Shootingstar: nope, you just need ubuntu: ubuntu includes the linux kernel and everything you need to run your computer
[08:45] <Marticus> ubuntu is a distribution which includes linux
[08:45] <apokryphos> Sk8aZ: you won't want to compile if you don't need to. There are probably distribution packages available.
[08:45] <ubuntu> This cover right here says....Ubuntu...Linux for people
[08:45] <ubuntu> or something like that
[08:45] <Marticus> but for the sake of nubs, ubuntu is a distribution of linux
[08:45] <Shootingstar> so can i downlaod ubuntu without a cd?
[08:45] <apokryphos> Shootingstar: yes, but it's not really the recommended method.
[08:45] <intelikey> no    linux!=ubuntu    ubuntu=linux   inclusive not exclusive.
[08:45] <arrick> Shootingstar, how fast is your internet?
[08:45] <IdleOne> Shootingstar, you will need to burn the iso to a cd
[08:45] <ubuntu> Who said anything about a cd.
[08:45] <maxallen> saik0, well yeah, but it will set up the multiboot for you
[08:45] <mwe> Linux is a kernel and some utilities.
[08:45] <Marticus> linux is the kernel
[08:46] <arrick> mwe, morning
[08:46] <apokryphos> intelikey: the equivalence there isn't going to help in the description though :P
[08:46] <mwe> gnome is not linux
[08:46] <Marticus> it is ubuntu gnu/linux :P
[08:46] <mwe> arrick: hey
[08:46] <arrick> hwo r u
[08:46] <arrick> how
[08:46] <Marticus> 'how are you'
[08:46] <ubuntu> Linux is the kernel....(humph)..You think you are so smart.
[08:46] <Marticus> aol ftw
[08:46] <mwe> Marticus: no. it is a gnu/linux based distribution, not the same thing
[08:46] <intelikey> yeah apokryphos s/=/ is /
[08:46] <carthik> Shootingstar, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome it was written for people just like you
[08:46] <Marticus> ubuntu gnu/linux
[08:47] <Marticus> suggests a distribution of gnu/linux ...
[08:47] <Marticus> and then some
[08:47] <errpast> Are firestarter and iptables related.  Iptables front to netfilter.  firestarter front to iptables?
[08:47] <errpast> Or do I have it all wrong?
[08:47] <apokryphos> yes, but people often (rightly or wrongly) leave out the GNU part
[08:47] <Marticus> can we start a flame war please?
[08:47] <mwe> errpast: they are related
[08:47] <Marticus> rather, holy war
[08:47] <apokryphos> Linus himself thinks it's "ridiculous" to always refer to it as that :)
[08:47] <arrick> hey Marticus i can use shortcuts too and still unterstand the language
[08:47] <apokryphos> suffice it to say RMS doesn't
[08:47] <trappist> errpast: that's right, sort of
[08:47] <mwe> errpast: firestarter is a front end to iptables
[08:47] <Marticus> apokryphos: I agree
[08:47] <valberg_> anyone who can help me setting my two computers up so i can transfer files between them using a crossover cable ?
[08:47] <djm62> apokryphos: GNU/Linus
[08:47] <Marticus> I hate refering to it as gnu/linux
[08:47] <errpast> mwe: thanks
[08:47] <Marticus> it's annoying
[08:47] <Marticus> and stuff
[08:48] <Jimmey__> valberg, man netcat
[08:48] <arrick> valberg, do you have the networked?
[08:48] <apokryphos> I don't hate it, I think it's a good idea to do it often, but not necessarily vital.
[08:48] <Jimmey__> valberg, I'm sure you can use that
[08:48] <saik0> We'll shorten is to GNU/buntu
[08:48] <Marticus> I call it ubuntu
[08:48] <Marticus> not linux, not gnu/linux
[08:48] <apokryphos> some of the points for referring to it as GNU/Linux that RMS raises are valid points
[08:48] <intelikey> yeah LINUX rules.  ubuntu is just another release of linux.  so it's all good.
[08:48] <Marticus> just ubuntu
[08:48] <Shootingstar> bye everyone
[08:48] <Marticus> :P
[08:48] <tito_> what is the form to have google talk?
[08:48] <maxallen> so, i'm having trouble with the fglrx ATI drivers, my screen is garbled when X starts, any ideas?
[08:48] <apokryphos> !ati
[08:48] <ubotu> from memory, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[08:48] <vge> valberg_: what operating systems the two coms have?
[08:49] <valberg_> arrick: well they are both without internet access (this one has right now but not when i put the crossover cable in)
[08:49] <errpast> anyone run a sip server?
[08:49] <arrick> valberg, you need to follwo the wiki above to network them together
[08:49] <mwe> maxallen: you need to say what you did, what erros are in /var/log/Xorg.0.log and so forth. did you read the wiki?
[08:49] <maxallen> I followed the wiki
[08:49] <valberg_> vge: ubuntu, my laptop has breezy, and this one a failed upgrade to breezy, so no working X
[08:50] <vge> valberg_: ssh to it?
[08:50] <maxallen> it looks like a module is searching my /dev/ folder... let me find it
[08:50] <arrick> valberg, type this into terminal
[08:50] <Cooner750> Where do I put XMMS Visualizations? (*.so files)
[08:50] <arrick> man netcat
[08:50] <valberg_> vge: how do i do that ?
[08:50] <arrick> valberg, ^^
[08:50] <vge> !ssh
[08:50] <ubotu> I guess ssh is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdvancedOpenSSH
[08:51] <maxallen> It's still doing better than Fedora was
[08:51] <valberg_> oh i'll try netcat and ssh and then return...
[08:51] <arrick> ANYTHING is better than fedora
[08:51] <arrick> ok
[08:51] <Cooner750> nevermind. Found
[08:51] <intelikey> valberg_  maybe do this as root         apt-get -u --reinstall --fix-missing install $(dpkg -S LC_MESSAGES | cut -d: -f1 | tr ', ' '\n' | sort -u)
[08:51] <Marticus> maxallen: ... I have the same problem
[08:51] <saik0> Marticus, There's your flame war right there
[08:51] <Marticus> only it freezes
[08:52] <maxallen> mine's not frozen
[08:52] <maxallen> I CAN MOVE THE CURSOR!
[08:52] <Marticus> maxallen: and never moves beyond the part of base-config
[08:52] <intelikey> valberg_  that should fix the borked upgrade.
[08:52] <maxallen> which... strangely... works...
[08:52] <Marticus> maxallen: I found a link at the linux laptop site for installing the ati driver
[08:53] <Tu13es_> hi all
[08:53] <maxallen> well, i followed the wiki
[08:53] <Marticus> maxallen: only... I can't complete the process because apt-get will not install something if the configure process isn't finished
[08:53] <maxallen> are you using amd64?
[08:53] <Marticus> yes
[08:53] <Tu13es_> I need some help with video, can anyone give me a hand, please?
[08:53] <Marticus> maxallen: hehe
[08:54] <Marticus> maxallen: I need to skip the current configure process
[08:54] <Marticus> to get another package install
[08:54] <TomaszD> Tu13es_, what is the problem?
[08:54] <maxallen> hmm, the log looks like it shows a bunch of craziness
[08:54] <Marticus> same here
[08:54] <titan> Hey, I forgot how to install compilers, here is the error I am getting...
[08:54] <titan> titan@ubuntu:~/Desktop/wine-0.9.11$ ./configure
[08:54] <titan> checking build system type... i686-pc-linux-gnuoldld
[08:54] <titan> checking host system type... i686-pc-linux-gnuoldld
[08:54] <titan> checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... no
[08:54] <titan> checking for gcc... no
[08:54] <titan> checking for cc... no
[08:54] <Marticus> it scrolls like crazy
[08:54] <titan> checking for cc... no
[08:54] <titan> checking for cl... no
[08:54] <titan> configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[08:54] <Marticus> until kernel panics
[08:54] <titan> See `config.log' for more details.
[08:54] <titan> dang, should have used clipboard sorry
[08:54] <Marticus> should have being the key phrase :P
[08:55] <TomaszD> titan, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:55] <arrick> !pastebin
[08:55] <ubotu> somebody said pastebin was http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[08:55] <arrick> hehehaha
[08:55] <titan> TomaszD, Thank you so much!
[08:55] <TomaszD> no problem.
[08:55] <Tu13es_> TomaszD, I just got Kubuntu running on my Toshiba laptop - it uses an Intel GMA900 - I'm not sure the video driver is up to date as some OpenGL stuff doesn't display correctly..
[08:55] <titan> You guys are awsome, I have never seen 'Tech support' so fast and good! =P
[08:55] <Marticus> and so free
[08:56] <titan> very true!
[08:56] <arrick> titan, everybody here is a volunteer
[08:56] <arrick> but they will take donations
[08:56] <Marticus> you just need to give back when you have the time
[08:56] <arrick> haha
[08:56] <blueyss> /join #gnome
[08:56] <arrick> yeah
[08:56] <titan> arrick, I knwo, that is what makes you guys so GREAT
[08:56] <TomaszD> Tu13es_, what does: glxinfo | grep "direct" give you?
[08:56] <vge> #donatetomehere
[08:56] <Marticus> you can be one of you guys...
[08:56] <arrick> hey titan if thats all you ever ask, it will be muh less that the time ive been here the last 3 week
[08:56] <Tu13es_> TomaszD: Yes
[08:57] <Marticus> all you need to do is answer three questions to each one you ask :P
[08:57] <Marticus> so...
[08:57] <arrick> I even started my own channel so Im not flooding in here
[08:57] <TomaszD> Tu13es_, then Direct Rendering is functioning properly, what are the exact problems?
[08:57] <Marticus> maxallen: I wish I was in your boat
[08:57] <Marticus> at least I could do something with it
[08:57] <titan> arrick, lol you should have seen me my first time in ubuntu, this is my second install, give me about a year and I should be in here helping people like you guys do =P
[08:57] <blenda> !flash
[08:57] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:57] <arrick> titan, ive installed 4 times in 3 weeks
[08:57] <maxallen> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11617
[08:58] <augustk> hello
[08:58] <maxallen> that's my log
[08:58] <TomaszD> Tu13es_, remember that the opensource driver may not support all OpenGL features. Intel doesn't make cutting edge 3D chips anyway.
[08:58] <Tu13es_> TomaszD, well the first thing I noticed was a couple OpenGL screen savers not displaying properly, I haven't really tried much else so far, just installed Kubuntu a few hours ago
[08:58] <intelikey> hmmm i tried to add that command string to the bot for broken installs  but it seems you cant include a ( or )  in an info-node
[08:58] <Tu13es_> TomaszD, true
[08:58] <mwe> arrick: heh. why on earth did you do that?
[08:58] <titan> arrick, wow that is alot
[08:58] <valberg__> hmm... no luck...
[08:58] <maxallen> i apparently have impossible resolutions in it
[08:58] <Tu13es_> TomaszD, so I'll just assume it's as good as it gets for now?
[08:58] <TomaszD> Tu13es_, you're using Breezy?
[08:58] <titan> see I am learning, I know that when it tells me this...
[08:58] <titan> titan@ubuntu:~/Desktop/wine-0.9.11$ sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:58] <titan> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[08:58] <titan> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[08:58] <Tu13es_> TomaszD, yes
[08:58] <arrick> mwe, join #arrick
[08:58] <titan> I have synaptic open!
[08:58] <titan> lol
[08:59] <TomaszD> Tu13es_, then wait till 1st June for Dapper. It may bring some updated Intel drivers :)
[08:59] <valberg__> arrick: when i use nc it just says connection refused
[08:59] <maxallen> but so far i haven't seen any major problems in there
[08:59] <mwe> titan: I was about to tell you to close synaptic ...
[08:59] <Tu13es_> TomaszD, ah, true.  Thanks :)
[08:59] <vge> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=156181 <--anyone can help me with this one?
[08:59] <TomaszD> other than that, you're lucky to have direct rendering running out of the box Tu13es_ :)
[08:59] <titan> mwe: LOL =P
[08:59] <arrick> you gotta open it on both machines
[08:59] <Tu13es_> :D
[08:59] <valberg__> arrick: could be that the problem is that both of the computers have the same hostname ?
[08:59] <arrick> very much so
[08:59] <maxallen> does it matter than i don't have my second head on?
[09:00] <jovan> how to use nmap on ubuntu 5.10?
[09:00] <maruchan> some one was helping me here early, i installed windows on my second hd
[09:00] <mwe> vge: that means it's working
[09:00] <maruchan> so how do i dual boot again, it only goes to ubuntu
[09:00] <mwe> vge: after that /j #ubuntu
[09:00] <vge> mwe: no, server aint giving it's responce
[09:00] <mwe> vge: yes it is
[09:00] <SilentPhate> I'm getting an odd error while trying to install Ubuntu.  It says "cpufreq: change failed with new_state 1 and result 0"
[09:01] <mwe> vge: but auth is not. you don't run identd
[09:01] <intelikey> !borked
[09:01] <ubotu> well, borked is try  " sudo  apt-get -u --reinstall --fix-missing install `dpkg -S LC_MESSAGES | cut -d: -f1 | tr ', ' 'n' | sort -u`  " that should fix your broken install/upgrade.
[09:01] <vge> mwe: well at that point i dont have connection
[09:01] <mwe> vge: neither do I
[09:01] <ammbel> hola
[09:01] <mwe> vge: it says connected
[09:01] <arrick> mwe 1. installed, no printer support, so reinstalled winxp for a printserv, 2 wrote drive for printer, reloaded server, 3. installed on laptop, 4. installed on the wrong drive, reconfiguring server now
[09:01] <ubuntu> alguien de chile
[09:01] <vge> mwe: but it is ont
[09:01] <arrick> hehe
[09:01] <arrick> !chilean
[09:01] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, arrick
[09:01] <valberg__> arrick: i changed the hostname in /etc/hostname to another name, but i don't know if it is enough
[09:01] <mwe> vge: did you try /j #ubuntu?
[09:01] <ubuntu> q tenga ubuntu
[09:01] <arrick> !es
[09:01] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[09:01] <vge> mwe: yes, it says "not connected"
[09:01] <SilentPhate> I'm getting an odd error while trying to install Ubuntu.  It says "cpufreq: change failed with new_state 1 and result 0"
[09:01] <mwe> vge: "Connected; logging in..." it means it's connected. odd
[09:02] <TomaszD> maruchan, http://ubuntuguide.org/#addwindowsentrygrubmenu
[09:02] <ammbel> hola
[09:02] <ubuntu> what????
[09:02] <carthik> hello ammbel
[09:02] <ubuntu> kien habla castellano
[09:03] <eSPete> how do i make webmin find my cd burner?
[09:03] <tonyyarusso> intelikey: Does !borked actually mean something to you?  (I was definitely lost in that..)
[09:03] <titan> I so much Ubuntu, my friend in WoW told me he was running Linux and I was like NO WAY, I wanted to run WoW so bad on Linux. Finally got the nades to go for it and here I am, been playing WoW on linux for about 1 month now. When this last patch came out it cuase problems and he "had to switch back to windows" while I just worked with it and and got it working again. Now I call him a traitor! =P
[09:03] <intelikey> tonyyarusso it's a "geek" term for broken
[09:03] <vge> mwe: "[15:31]  [Welcome]  Welcome to the freenode IRC Network vge" this line never comes in connection window with my new kernel? :/
[09:03] <titan> love so much*
[09:03] <ubuntu> fuck......
[09:03] <ammbel> hay algun espaol contesta
[09:04] <tonyyarusso> intelikey: Okay, actually I understand "borked" itself, I meant the content of the factoid.
[09:04] <mwe> vge: after a kerel upgrade?
[09:04] <anarcat> hello
[09:04] <mwe> !es
[09:04] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[09:04] <arrick> hey intelikey can you paste that command for valberg__ into #arrick for me?
[09:04] <ubuntu> shit
[09:04] <maxallen> oh, stupidness...
[09:04] <vge> mwe: yes, i this 2.6.10 works fine, but 2.6.17-rc1 dont connect, weard
[09:04] <intelikey> tonyyarusso yes  it's a command that reinstalls each package. fixing any missing deps.  and i have used it several times.
[09:04] <carthik> ubuntu, no swear words, no offtopic banter here, please, use #ubuntu-offtopic for those
[09:05] <tonyyarusso> intelikey: Wow.  Complex, but cool.
[09:05] <maxallen> i've been looking at the live cd bootlog
[09:05] <mwe> vge: custom kernel. maybe you forgot to compile something in or load a module
[09:05] <ltR^> hey i got a problem, my ubuntu won't boot anymore
[09:05] <Deramin> how do I change the master password on the keyring
[09:05] <Deramin> ?
[09:05] <Rdde> How dose the different cron folders work? can i put something in say cron.hourly and it will run every houre?
[09:05] <intelikey> tonyyarusso i have it as a script but can't put a script on a factoid
[09:05] <vge> mwe: yup, but i donno what can only hinder IRC :/
[09:05] <carthik> Deramin, which keyring are we talking about ?
[09:05] <ammbel> hola carthick
[09:06] <carthik> ammbel, yes?
[09:06] <SilentPhate> I'm getting an odd error while trying to install Ubuntu.  It says "cpufreq: change failed with new_state 1 and result 0" What should i do?
[09:06] <tonyyarusso> intelikey: True.  Factoid works for me then!
[09:06] <ubuntu> no entiendo ninguna mierda de la que estan hablando
[09:06] <mwe> vge: no. I'd go over the network options in menuconfig again
[09:06] <arrick> intelikey, is that a series of comand or one big command?
[09:06] <ammbel> carthik eres espaol
[09:06] <ltR^> i left on ubuntu overnight (downloading somthing) and it azureus count save the file (the error was somthing about a read only file system) and everything locked up.... so i rebooted. Then while doing a check it said there was a problem with the fSTAB and that line 9 and 11 were bad
[09:06] <carthik> SilentPhate, what processor does the computer have?
[09:06] <ltR^> then it said therer was a disc error or somthing.
[09:06] <mwe> vge: you don't have some odd iptables rule or something?
[09:06] <intelikey> arrick it's one command string.
[09:06] <SilentPhate> pentium 3
[09:06] <ubuntu> quien habla espaol
[09:06] <ammbel> hola nwe
[09:06] <carthik> ammbel, I dont speak spanish. Join #ubuntu-es  please///
[09:06] <mwe> vge: I guess not if it works with 2.6.10
[09:07] <SilentPhate> at 450Mhz
[09:07] <vge> mwe: naah, havent touch those
[09:07] <ubuntu> porfavor
[09:07] <arrick> ok
[09:07] <Deramin> carthik: which ever one ran when I connected to a server using Nautilus
[09:07] <arrick> I pasted it for him
[09:07] <vge> mwe: hmm, can i somehow check whats my config in 2.6.10?
[09:07] <Rdde> anyone knows how cron works? can i put something in like cron.hourly and it will run every hourer?
[09:07] <mwe> vge: is it an ubuntu kernel?
[09:07] <vge> Rdde: that should work yes
[09:07] <SilentPhate> carthik: Pentium 3 @ 450Mhz/500Mhz its a laptop.
[09:07] <carthik> Deramin, so did you forget the master password? (gnome-keyring is what we are talking about)
[09:07] <vge> mwe: no, vanilla
[09:07] <afief> my ATI hardware acceleration is broken after i updated my xorg module. could someone help me get it right again?
[09:08] <Rdde> vge,  do i just put the scirpt i want tu run in the folder?
[09:08] <arrick> hey intelikey how do I start gnome from server terminal?
[09:08] <intelikey> within the `...`  gets executed first.   one could run that part alone to see what it does, then that info is passed in place of the  `....` string to the main command.    it's pretty simple bash string really.
[09:08] <ubuntu> puta las mierdas chupen la corneta
[09:08] <mwe> vge: one you compiled yourself. If you enabled /proc/config.gz you can zcat that
[09:08] <ubuntu> maracos culiaos
[09:08] <ltR^> i left on ubuntu overnight (downloading somthing) and it azureus count save the file (the error was somthing about a read only file system) and everything locked up.... so i rebooted. Then while doing a check it said there was a problem with the fSTAB and that line 9 and 11 were bad
[09:08] <carthik> Silencer, okay, so your processor cannot change the CPU frequency. The error probably means nothing -- just ubuntu trying to see if the cpu frequency on that laptop can be changed for power management purposes. Please ignore it
[09:08] <ltR^> then it said therer was a disc error or somthing.
[09:08] <Silencer> carthik, :) u mistake ;)
[09:08] <ammbel> I HOLA UBUNTUN
[09:09] <maxallen> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11621 < Ok, you can see there where drmOpenDevice starts going through /dev/dri/ looking for a card
[09:09] <SilentPhate> carthik: Ok thanks
[09:09] <Deramin> carthik: (yeah, that's it) Oh no, I know the password just fine. but I changed the password on the rest of the system, and the fact that it's the old one keeps confusing me. So I want to change it for congruency (and security, i suppose)
[09:09] <polpak> !caps
[09:09] <ubotu> FYI, typing in ALL CAPS is considered to be 'yelling', and therefore rude behaviour.
[09:09] <vge> mwe: well i mean, this 2.6.10 is ubuntus own, can i check this ones kernel options and then compare em to the one that i have in make gconfig?
[09:09] <carthik> Silencer, sorry :)
[09:09] <mwe> vge: I think the config file should be in /boot
[09:10] <SilentPhate> carthik: It's all good. Almost done installing ;-) 95%
[09:10] <maxallen> so I've got UseInternalAGPGART set to no
[09:10] <arrick> How do I start the gnome from the server terminal?
[09:10] <ltR^> Hello?
[09:10] <ltR^> Can sombody help me?
[09:10] <maruchan> however linked me to the wiki about changing the bootlist, to dual boot.
[09:10] <intelikey> tonyyarusso so the out put of --->  dpkg -S LC_MESSAGES | cut -d: -f1 | tr ', ' 'n' | sort -u  <---  gets fed into  ---> apt-get -u --reinstall --fix-missing install <here>
[09:10] <ltR^> i can't boot back in ubuntu, i'm forced to use windows now.
[09:10] <maruchan> do i have to chagne the second hd to slave for it work
[09:10] <maruchan> ?
[09:10] <mwe> vge: I'd also double check the output of sudo iptables -L
[09:11] <tonyyarusso> intelikey: Got it.
[09:11] <ammbel> HOLA UGE
[09:11] <carthik> Deramin, one sec I thought I had read it somewhere....
[09:11] <arrick> !es
[09:11] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[09:11] <valberg__> intelikey: hey! that command you wrote
[09:11] <vge> mwe: ill check those when ill boot to that kernel, ty
[09:11] <arrick> intelikey, mwe _jason how do I start the gnome gui from the server terminal?
[09:11] <vge> ill guess i do it now
[09:11] <ammbel> QUIEN TIENE HOTMAIL
[09:12] <intelikey> valberg__ yes
[09:12] <intelikey> arrick startx
[09:12] <valberg__> intelikey: i get a "Can't fint package" and then a lot of programs in just extention of eachother with a n in between each package
[09:12] <arrick> dont wort
[09:12] <arrick> doesnt work intelikey
[09:12] <maruchan> however linked me to the wiki about changing the bootlist, to dual boot.
[09:12] <maruchan> do i have to chagne the second hd to slave for it work?
[09:13] <mwe> arrick: then you need to make sure X is configured and the .xinitrc is sane
[09:13] <intelikey> valberg__ fix your /etc/apt/sources.list  apt-get update then try it.
[09:13] <apoc> im running ubuntu on a laptop, and if i start up without being connected to the internet, i have to reboot, in order to connect, is there anyway to bypass this?
[09:13] <arrick> mwe, how?
[09:13] <mwe> apoc: yes
[09:13] <eSPete> is there a command to enject a cd tray?
[09:13] <Deramin> apoc: what Ubuntu version are you running?
[09:13] <mwe> apoc: sudo ifup <interface>
[09:13] <na7e> mwe, you crack me up
[09:13] <intelikey> eSPete eject
[09:13] <ammbel> ALGUIEN HABLA ESPAOL
[09:13] <arrick> I have freshly installed server, and sudo aptitude install gnome, what must I do next?
[09:14] <arrick> !es
[09:14] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[09:14] <na7e> mwe, oh, thought you were gonna just stop at 'yes' :)
[09:14] <intelikey> eSPete sudo eject    if need be
[09:14] <ltR^> i can't boot back in ubuntu, i'm forced to use windows now.
[09:14] <mwe> na7e: heh
[09:14] <arrick> ammbel, ^^^ look up
[09:14] <blueyss> hi, can anyone tell me if the xfonts-artwiz work with gnome? they are the only artwiz that are listed by apt-cache search
[09:14] <mwe> ammbel: speak english or join #ubuntu-es
[09:14] <eSPete> intelikey, and back in?
[09:14] <ammbel> HELLO ARRICK
[09:14] <arrick> actually, i get the following error mwe, after the install
[09:14] <intelikey> eSPete eject -t
[09:15] <intelikey> eSPete eject -x <max speed>   to set the max speed too
[09:15] <eSPete> intelikey, thx, (too lazy to push the btn:P)
[09:15] <ltR^> Does anyone know how to fix a broken UBUNTU
[09:15] <ltR^> I CANT BOOT UP
[09:15] <intelikey> eSPete if i'm finished being your extention to the   man eject   i need to go now  :)
[09:16] <intelikey> see yall later....
[09:16] <eSPete> intelikey, only fair
[09:16] <maxallen> how do I get ubuntu to not start X on startup? Just move xorg-common out of the init.d folder?
[09:16] <ammbel> ADIOS
[09:16] <ammbel> +H+
[09:16] <ammbel>  >rUP U 6'4OTL+
[09:16] <ammbel> HLKLDH
[09:16] <ammbel> LL
[09:16] <ammbel> L
[09:16] <ammbel> .
[09:16] <ammbel> .
[09:16] <ammbel> .
[09:16] <ammbel> .
[09:16] <carthik> !ban
[09:16] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, carthik
[09:16] <carthik> !ops
[09:16] <ubotu> Help! lilo, fabbione, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee
[09:16] <arrick> mwe please see #arrick for a second
[09:16] <eSPete> hhow do i make webmin find my cd burner?
[09:16] <na7e> maxallen: rc-update-rc.d or something like that
[09:17] <jonathanD_> anyone know to uninstall kubuntu (installed it via apt-get)? i wish to keep ubuntu but get rid of kde...
[09:17] <Seveas> jonathanD_, use debfoster
[09:17] <apoc> Deramin: im running breezy
[09:17] <jonathanD_> how do i use that?
[09:17] <apoc> mwe: wat do u mean by interface
[09:17] <ltR^> Seveas you there?
[09:17] <Jimmey__> How do I do a traceroute in bash?
[09:17] <na7e> tracert i think
[09:18] <ammbel> HOLA
[09:18] <na7e> HOLA
[09:18] <Deramin> apoc: hmm. updating to breezy fixed that problem for me
[09:18] <Jimmey__> na7e, it's not..
[09:18] <ammbel> COMO TE LLAMAS
[09:18] <Absenth> Jimmey__, Actually, I think you need to $: sudo apt-get install traceroute
[09:18] <nalioth> !es
[09:18] <na7e> Jimmey__, could be you don't have it installed
[09:18] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[09:18] <Absenth> Jimmey__, then just $: traceroute host.
[09:18] <ltR^> Can sombody help me. My ubuntu install is broken.
[09:18] <apoc> jonathanD_: sudo apt-get remove...
[09:18] <ltR^> I woke up today and i can't boot up into it.
[09:18] <ltR^> i'm using windows now.
[09:19] <mwe> apoc: your interface is your network interface
[09:19] <na7e> where does it break?
[09:19] <j> is there an easier way to install programs
[09:19] <jonathanD_> that the one... thanks apoc!
[09:19] <ltR^> i left on ubuntu overnight (downloading somthing) and it azureus count save the file (the error was somthing about a read only file system) and everything locked up.... so i rebooted. Then while doing a check it said there was a problem with the fSTAB and that line 9 and 11 were bad
[09:19] <jonathanD_> cheers!
[09:19] <Seveas> j, applications  add applications
[09:19] <na7e> j: if you're in gnome, try synaptic
[09:19] <IdleOne> !tell j about apt
[09:19] <ltR^> then it said therer was a disc error or somthing.
[09:19] <valberg__> what is the most correct way of changing the hostname on a machine ?
[09:20] <carthik> valberg__, edit /etc/hostname
[09:20] <arrick> !pastebin
[09:20] <ubotu> rumour has it, pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[09:20] <apoc> mwe: like eth0 ?
[09:20] <mwe> apoc: right
[09:20] <zukero> apoc: yes
[09:20] <jonathanD_> apoc: i get could not find package kubuntu
[09:21] <mwe> jonathanD_: kubuntu-desktop
[09:21] <apoc> yes thats it
[09:21] <apoc> thanks everyone
[09:21] <mwe> jonathanD_: it will install _alot_ of krap though
[09:21] <jonathanD_> apoc: thanks so much!
[09:21] <ltR^> Can sombody help me!!!
[09:21] <ltR^> Does anyone know??!!
[09:21] <valberg__> carthik: i've done that, but now i recieve strange messages when using sudo "unable to lookup station via gethostnamebyname()" where station is the hostname i changed it to
[09:21] <jonathanD_> i'm removing it :P
[09:22] <erUSUL> valberg__, man hostname
[09:22] <na7e> ltR^: I'm in class, so my help would be rather limited, but it sounds to me like a disc could be failing.  Can you boot into rescue mode?
[09:22] <mwe> removing kubuntu-desktop wont remove any actual packages
[09:22] <mwe> it's a meta package
[09:22] <ltR^> na7e, i havn't tried.
[09:22] <polpak> mwe, someone said if you used aptitude to install it it would
[09:22] <ltR^> i'm in windows and its working.
[09:22] <ltR^> it also said i had a problem with the fstab
[09:22] <ltR^> line 9 and 11
[09:22] <polpak> mwe, I haven't confirmed that that's true though
[09:23] <carthik> valberg__, also make sure you have a line like "127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost umberto" in your /etc/hosts
[09:23] <mwe> polpak: maybe sometimes it works better. sudo apt-get remove kdelibs4-bin should remove it I think though
[09:23] <carthik> valberg__, there umberto is the hostname for my computer
[09:23] <na7e> ltR^: from the symptoms and what happened just before it, it sounds like hardware failed.  I have to go now though, good luck to you :)
[09:23] <afief> Can someone help me get my ATI graphic acceleration to work?
[09:23] <polpak> afief, you've read the wiki?
[09:24] <carthik> Deramin, still here?
[09:24] <arrick> !gnome
[09:24] <mwe> polpak: or sudo apt-get --purge remove kdelibs rather
[09:24] <mwe> polpak: that should get rid of it
[09:24] <afief> polpak: I have, and it used to work just fine, but since i got the xorg module update it doesn't work anymore
[09:24] <valberg__> carthik: thnx, that removed the message
[09:24] <arrick> ok, I have tried getting the gnome and it wont install fro some reason?
[09:24] <carthik> valberg__, np
[09:25] <arrick> do i have to install gdm in order to install it?
[09:25] <mwe> arrick: no
[09:25] <vincenz> ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGH
[09:25] <arrick> _jason,
[09:25] <arrick> ok
[09:25] <arrick> its not installing I enabled universe and multiverse
[09:25] <vincenz> I use evolution and exchange at work... even when I don't run evolution at work, it sometimes runs this background process which makes my computer near freeze
[09:25] <vincenz> how do I turn this crap off
[09:25] <mwe> arrick: pastebin.com your sources.list maybe
[09:25] <vincenz> (at home even, not at work)
[09:25] <arrick> I cant printscreen it
[09:25] <maxallen> it seems to have quieted down in here, can anyone think of something else that could be wrong with my xorg config with the ATI driver? I'm getting a corrupted screen on bootup, all that works is my mouse, and i've turned of UseInternalAGPGART
[09:26] <arrick> I cant even opena browser so i can paste mwe
[09:26] <carthik> arrick, you have to get the name of the package right. In this case, you can search using Synaptic. You need the gnome window manager. Gnome is the name of a project, a community, not a package
[09:26] <juanca> hello everyone, I am new to the irc channels, sorry if I make mistakes
[09:26] <arrick> carthik, I need the gnome desktop, but not the ubuntu-desktop that bogs my system down
[09:26] <carthik> maxallen, there a lot of bugs regarding that at the bugtracker. Please check to see anyof them have any solutions in the comments first
[09:27] <maxallen> thanks
[09:27] <blenda> i've tried to install flash and java plugins for breezy (flashplayer-mozilla and j2re1.4) but firefox crashes when loading applets and flash sites. does anyone know how to solve this?
[09:27] <carthik> arrick, then try getting gnome-desktop-environment
[09:27] <arrick> carthik, does that install without all the extra junk?
[09:28] <polpak> arrick, or you can even just get nautilus
[09:28] <polpak> arrick, which is what does the desktop and the file browser
[09:28] <juanca> I have upgraded to Drapper Drake 6.06 and my X server hangs on first boot, leaving just a "_" on the upper left corner of the screen, has anyone encountered this problem?
[09:28] <maxallen> !ati
[09:28] <ubotu> somebody said ati was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[09:28] <arrick> helps if I update the apt
[09:28] <polpak> !tell juanca about dapper
[09:29] <afief> !tell Afief about dapper
[09:29] <blenda> !javadebs
[09:29] <jason_> one more question: if i am running wine for a proggie, can I create a shortcut to run the command, or do i have to type the whole thing in everytime?
[09:29] <ubuntu_rules> what is the diff b/t 2.6.12 and 2.6.16
[09:29] <afief> janson_: just make a launcher with "wine [path+filename] " in it
[09:29] <jason_> make a launcher?
[09:30] <vincenz> anyone know
[09:30] <vincenz> why evolution-exchange works in the background withotu me launching it
[09:30] <vincenz> and how do I turn this crap off?
[09:30] <arrick> AND THERE is a gnome package in the repos, I just installed it
[09:30] <vincenz> it makes me computer freeze
[09:30] <ubuntu_rules> kill proc
[09:30] <vincenz> cause exchange is only for owrk
[09:30] <afief> janson_: in Gnome: right click on desktop and "create launcher" it's like a shortcut(windows terminology)
[09:30] <polpak> jason_, right click select create launcher
[09:30] <vincenz> ubuntu_rules: I meant stop it from going
[09:30] <nickgarvey> how do I use bit torrent from the command line?
[09:30] <vincenz> it's annoying as hell
[09:31] <ubuntu_rules> o
[09:31] <vincenz> and I can barely open up a terminal to kill
[09:31] <jason_> polpak thanks
[09:31] <arrick> evening nickgarvey
[09:31] <jason_> afief thatnks
[09:31] <ubuntu_rules> idk sry
[09:31] <nickgarvey> evening arrick
[09:31] <nickgarvey> !bittorrent
[09:31] <ubotu> from memory, bittorrent is the BitTorrent FAQ is available at: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html
[09:31] <juanca> thank you all, I'll try the #ubuntu+1 channel
[09:31] <nickgarvey> I love you ubuntu
[09:31] <nickgarvey> !hug
[09:31] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, nickgarvey
[09:31] <nickgarvey> !?
[09:31] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, nickgarvey
[09:31] <jason_> one more: how can i get write access to my ntfs drives?
[09:31] <nickgarvey> no more hugs?
[09:31] <arrick> !bot snack
[09:31] <ubotu> :)
[09:31] <ubuntu_rules> !good bot
[09:31] <ubotu> thanks ubuntu_rules :)
[09:31] <arrick> ubotu good bot
[09:32] <arrick> ubotu: good bot
[09:32] <ubotu> :)
[09:32] <ltR20> the computer icon isnt on my desktop anymore for some odd reason, how do i put it back?
[09:32] <vincenz> So does anyone know why this evolution process runs in the background and how I can disable this
[09:32] <nickgarvey> how do I use bittorrent? I don't see a command
[09:32] <afief> jason_: you better don't. it might break the NTFS filesystem(microsoft has not released the specifications, and backwards engineering isn't as easy as it once was)
[09:32] <Deramin> carthik: I'm back now
[09:33] <jason_> afief, so I can read from my winxp partitions, but cannot write to them?
[09:33] <afief> nickgarvey: either download azureus or run the gnome BT client
[09:33] <nickgarvey> afief: will one of those work from the command line?
[09:33] <ubuntu_rules> thorapudic been on at all?
[09:33] <cyrus> cyrus@cy:~/Desktop$ java --version--
[09:33] <cyrus> Unrecognized option: --version--
[09:33] <cyrus> Could not create the Java virtual machine.
[09:33] <nickgarvey> afief: I ran apt-get bitttorrent but it was already installed
[09:33] <cyrus> is the problem
[09:33] <arrick> !java
[09:33] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[09:33] <cyrus> after installaing https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?action=show&redirect=Java#head-e2ebd70ede0e3eb2117ffbd618d2295dd1540dca
[09:34] <akcom> akcom@ubumac:~$ java --version
[09:34] <akcom> java version "1.4.2"
[09:34] <afief> jason_: you can, theoretically. i've not tried it myself, but people told me it's still riskey. if you want to try search google a bit
[09:34] <cyrus> this manual worked fine https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?action=show&redirect=Java#head-e2ebd70ede0e3eb2117ffbd618d2295dd1540dca
[09:34] <cyrus> but now the machine is not running
[09:34] <afief> nickgarvey: not sure about the command line, let me try it out(why do you want it anyway?)
[09:34] <cyrus> whats the problem ?
[09:34] <nickgarvey> afief: I want to be able to get ISO's from ssh
[09:35] <nickgarvey> afief: needless to say most new ones are torrents
[09:35] <afief> nickgarvey: i don't see the connection. if you have an iso on a remote server you can just download it. if it's a torrent file all you need is to download the "torrent" and let it run on the local client
[09:36] <nickgarvey> afief: but I don't know how to run the torrent
[09:36] <cyrus> dose any budy know how to solve the java prob
[09:36] <cyrus> ?
[09:36] <theripper> whats a good torrent client that works in kde?
[09:36] <sfar> ktorrent
[09:36] <hardskinone> in wich repo is gcc-3.4? thx
[09:36] <nickgarvey> afief: I want to download the iso on the server, using the torrent
[09:37] <hardskinone> *which
[09:37] <theripper> im usking ktorrent now , its not working too good , doesnt lok too good either
[09:37] <afief> nickgarvey: i think you are a bit confused: torrents are made for things you want to distribute among lots of people, it saves bandwidth. if you only have a server, and you are downloading from it, it makes no use to use torrents
[09:37] <carthik> Deramin, okay, please install gnome-keyring-manager from the universe repository
[09:37] <blueyss> ktorrent sucks, use azureus
[09:38] <nickgarvey> afief: I need to download it from a torrent, its only distributed as a torrent
[09:38] <blenda> azureus depends on non-free jre though
[09:38] <nickgarvey> afief: I stick the burnable cd in the tray and burn it from that computer
[09:38] <jaek> how can i install and keep just one package from dapper?
[09:38] <theripper> ok , i guess ill have to get java
[09:38] <afief> nickgarvey: then download the torrent file and run it on the client. a torrent file contains all the data the computer needs to download the ISO from wherever it is saved
[09:39] <theripper> there is no free java for linux?
[09:39] <titan> I never can get any anwsers in winehq channel. Anyone here know wine well and can answer my question?
[09:39] <nickgarvey> afief: I don't know how to run the client from the command line
[09:39] <arrick> theripper, !java
[09:39] <arrick> type that
[09:39] <theripper> !java
[09:39] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[09:39] <nickgarvey> afief: the server burns the cd, so I want the iso there
[09:40] <titan> how do I do that clipboard thing so I do not have to paste this big question in the window?
[09:40] <afief> nickgarvey: you don't have to. if you are able to download the .torrent file, just double click it in nautilus and the download will commence
[09:40] <blenda> theripper: yes but the free java re:s doesn't work well with advanced gui:s like the one in azureus
[09:40] <afief> !ubontu tell titan about PasteBin
[09:40] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, afief
[09:40] <nickgarvey> afief: its a server, theres no GUI
[09:40] <blenda> !ubotu paste
[09:40] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[09:40] <titan> !PasteBin
[09:40] <blueyss> theripper: you could just the regular bittorrent client
[09:40] <ubotu> [pastebin]  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[09:40] <joe_alf> is there something like this "yum --enablerepo" in ubuntu, let say "apt-get --enablerepo"
[09:40] <arrick> !tell titan about pastebin
[09:40] <titan> thx
[09:41] <afief> nickgarvey: you are on a server right now, or you want to download from a server?
[09:41] <blenda> theripper: there is a debian package at bittorrent.com
[09:41] <carthik> joe_alf, what does that do, add a new repository to your list, or just plain enable one that is in your list?
[09:41] <blueyss> theripper: sudo apt-install bittorrent
[09:41] <nickgarvey> afief: I have 2 computers, one is a server one is a desktop, the server has the cd burner, I want to download the iso on the server, stick a cd in the side, and burn it, all using ssh
[09:41] <blueyss> theripper: then just use bittorrent-curses <path to torrent file> in a terminal
[09:42] <CablDWRK> is there any good newsgroup binary program for nix  god they all sux
[09:42] <nickgarvey> afief: I know how to burn it, but I want to get the iso from a torrent file
[09:42] <carthik> nickgarvey, you cant stick a cd in the side over ssh, but other than that, everything shuld be possible
[09:42] <blenda> bittorrent 4.x is greatly improved over 3.x so i recommend getting it from bittorrent.com
[09:42] <Deramin> carthik: got it
[09:42] <nickgarvey> carthik: yeah, my foot is on teh server right now
[09:42] <nickgarvey> carthik: I just don't know how to get the iso from the torrent over ssh
[09:42] <nickgarvey> the*
[09:42] <afief> nickgarvey: but bittorrent files don't contain any data except the address and hash code of the file
[09:43] <Jube> hey.. I'm sorta new to ubuntu.. how do i execute a .deb file?
[09:43] <titan> when i try running winecfg I get this error...
[09:43] <Deramin> carthik: don't see how to change the password in the manager, though
[09:43] <titan> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11625
[09:43] <polpak> Jube, you don't.. you install it
[09:43] <Jube> how do i do that? :P
[09:43] <Jube> sorry.. very new
[09:43] <CablDWRK> polpak =P
[09:43] <joe_alf> carthik: in fedora it just enable the repo because you can add repo and make it off by default then if you want to install something which is in that repo you can just enable it at the command
[09:43] <arrick> !deb
[09:43] <ubotu> To install a .deb file: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb  (but note that the program you want might be installable using !apt from the !repos)
[09:43] <maxallen> !ati
[09:43] <ubotu> ati is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[09:43] <Jube> thanks
[09:43] <carthik> Deramin, now you can run it ($ gnome-keyring-manager) and then just delete the default keyring. The next time you enter the password in nautilus a new default keyring will be created. I can't figure a way to change the password for the default keyring.
[09:43] <arrick> np :-)
[09:44] <nickgarvey> afief: yes I understand, but this iso is only distributed as a torrent, I have the torrent, I just need to know how to use bittorrent to get the iso from the network, off the command line
[09:44] <Deramin> ah
[09:44] <Deramin> carthik: ok, works for me
[09:44] <carthik> Deramin, before you delete the default keyring you can write down all the passwords
[09:44] <titan> I never can get any anwsers in winehq channel. Anyone here know wine well and can answer my question? When I run winecfg I get this error...
[09:44] <dabaR> cafuego: do you have a sun java installed on your ppc?
[09:45] <titan> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11625
[09:46] <nickgarvey> I think I found the man file
[09:46] <nickgarvey> the commands started with bt, I was looking an bit and tor
[09:46] <sonic> hey guys
[09:46] <Deramin> carthik: only had the one. Thanks very much
[09:46] <arrick> !jastask
[09:46] <blenda> cyrus: try "java -version"
[09:46] <ubotu> arrick: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:46] <sonic> can anyone tell me how I can download and install nvidia drivers?
[09:46] <carthik> Deramin, chill!
[09:46] <arrick> !justask
[09:46] <ubotu> Ask your question and we'll try to answer it.
[09:46] <jibril> hey there
[09:46] <jibril> morning guys
[09:47] <jibril> how is life ?
[09:47] <afief> nickgarvey: i can't find the command...
[09:47] <IdleOne> !tell sonic about nvidia
[09:47] <tjansson> I just changed from Mandriva to Ubuntu but the package pms (password managetment system) isn't there? Do you know where I can get?
[09:47] <arrick> IdleOne, you back:-)
[09:47] <SilentPhate> ?
[09:47] <nickgarvey> afief: man btdownloadheadless
[09:47] <sonic> idleone:  thanks alot mate
[09:47] <titan> arrick: I believe you helped me earlier, could you possibally take a look at this? I get this error when I try running winecfg, I think it is a simple fix... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11625
[09:47] <IdleOne> tjansson, ubuntu uses synaptic
[09:48] <IdleOne> !tell tjansson about synaptic
[09:48] <afief> nickgarvey: so you do have the command, where is the problem?
[09:48] <sfar> Hi, im looking for a torrent client.. Azuerus looks very nice but it takes like 10 seconds to start (and thats just horrible).. I'd prefer something like azureus but faster! (not ktorrent)
[09:48] <IdleOne> tjansson, umm nm I read wrong
[09:48] <nickgarvey> afief: no more problem I figured it out
[09:48] <carthik> nickgarvey, sorry, has anyone answered your question, if not, use bittornado from the command line
[09:48] <tjansson> IdleOne: yeah - but the packages is not in universe, multiverse or main?
[09:48] <nickgarvey> carthik: oh I'll try that, the syntax of this seems a little nasty, thanks a lot
[09:48] <tjansson> IdleOne: Okay
[09:48] <nickgarvey> thank you too afief
[09:48] <variant> hi all, im unable to make the netgear wg111v2 work with dapper
[09:49] <arrick> hey titan I was just giving you a link earlier, I dont know that much about yoru problem
[09:49] <titan> arrick: np, thanks
[09:49] <carthik> tjansson, pms might be particular to mandriva - find an ubuntu replacement for the same function
[09:49] <afief> nickgarvey: i thank you:) you are the one directing me to the manpage
[09:49] <arrick> yw:-)
[09:49] <variant> i stick it in and its automatically detected but iwlist shows "no scan results" and there are a lot of wireless nets around here
[09:49] <tjansson> carthik: it isn't mandriva specific just a littel console driven password manager
[09:50] <mouldy> hey all. does anyone know how to install opentype fonts in ubuntu dapper?
[09:50] <tjansson> Does any body know of an console driven password manager - I could shift
[09:51] <IdleOne> tjansson, try gpass apt-cache search gpass
[09:51] <arrick> tjansson, sudo passwd
[09:51] <tjansson> arrick: that would change my password not manage my 15+ password
[09:51] <carthik> tjansson, fpm keysafe, pwsafe or zsafe - take your pick :)
[09:51] <arrick> oh ok sorry
[09:51] <carthik> tjansson, fpm and keysafe are seperate ones...
[09:51] <tjansson> IdleOne: is it console driven?
[09:52] <tjansson> carthik: sound interesting
[09:52] <IdleOne> apt-cache show gpass
[09:52] <carthik> tjansson, use $apt-cache search password | grep manager               to get the list
[09:53] <carthik> tjansson, of course you have some gui pw managers too. good luck finding a good replacement
[09:53] <tjansson> carthik: true - and thx all
[09:53] <tjansson> think pwsafe sounds good
[09:53] <DeamoN_Cheat> Algum Brazil awe ?/
[09:53] <dabaR> !br
[09:54] <IdleOne> !br
[09:54] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[09:55] <arrick> hey are the repos down right now'/
[09:55] <arrick> ?
[09:55] <arrick> ?
[09:55] <valberg> arrick: i've just used them...
[09:56] <duelboot> _jason, think I might need your help, but I'll come back in a few and let you know
[09:56] <arrick> valberg, sorry about the boot man
[09:56] <revartj> how i configure doking station for SONY Vgn-a217s?????
[09:56] <revartj> help
[09:57] <socket> hey, is it possible to create a new user that doesnt need a password for login ?
[09:57] <mouldy> Does anyone know how to install opentype fonts in ubuntu dapper?
[09:57] <arrick> socket, you can create a limited user like that
[09:57] <valberg> arrick: i
[09:57] <valberg> arrick: it's okey ;)
[09:57] <arrick> but you haev to ask for help in here
[09:58] <sonic> can anyone help me figure out how to sign on to msn messenger?  gaim always reports back with "unable to connect" even though the correct details have been put in
[09:58] <valberg> arrick: and btw, it didn't work with the upgrade... and the command still doesn't work...
[09:58] <arrick> ok
[09:58] <socket> arrick, thanks, any pointers on how to create a limited account ? adduser?
[09:58] <IdleOne> !tell sonic about amsn
[09:58] <arrick> let intelikey know that when you see him again
[09:58] <arrick> man adduser
[09:58] <valberg> arrick: soo... but i still want to connect my two computer together using a crossover cable...
[09:58] <revartj> somebody for help me
[09:58] <revartj> ????
[09:59] <nickgarvey> revartj: I don't understand your question
[09:59] <arrick> man netstat
[09:59] <apoc> can someone help me install azareus on my breezy system?
[09:59] <revartj>  how i configure doking station for SONY Vgn-a217s?????
[09:59] <valberg> apoc: check the wiki
[09:59] <IdleOne> !azareus
[09:59] <ubotu> IdleOne: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:59] <IdleOne> !p2p
[09:59] <ubotu> p2p is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PHowTo
[09:59] <nickgarvey> revartj: I do not understand, thus restating will not help
[09:59] <arrick> !justask
[09:59] <ubotu> Ask your question and we'll try to answer it.
[10:00] <revartj> i am to laptop SONY VGN-a217s
[10:00] <bibe> hi, i'd like to use network-manager with dapper but i can't find it. how can use it?
[10:00] <nickgarvey> revartj: what is your native language?
[10:00] <revartj> xd
[10:00] <revartj> spanish
[10:00] <nickgarvey> !es
[10:00] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:00] <revartj> yes
[10:00] <variant> ubotu: netgear?
[10:00] <ubotu> If you have a Linksys or Netgear router please get your firmware update
[10:00] <sonic> idleone:  thanls. once I download the file, do you have any information on how I can install it?
[10:00] <nickgarvey> ellos no ayudan tu?
[10:00] <MenZa> Any good GUI FTP-applications around?
[10:00] <arrick> revartj, type /join #ubuntu-es
[10:01] <titan> when I run winecfg I get this....
[10:01] <titan> titan@ubuntu:~/Desktop$ winecfg
[10:01] <titan> err:imagelist:ImageList_ReplaceIcon no color!
[10:01] <titan> err:imagelist:ImageList_ReplaceIcon no color!
[10:01] <titan> err:imagelist:ImageList_ReplaceIcon no color!
[10:01] <titan> err:imagelist:ImageList_ReplaceIcon no color!
[10:01] <titan> Application tries to create a window, but no driver could be loaded.
[10:01] <titan> Make sure that your X server is running and that $DISPLAY is set correctly.
[10:01] <nickgarvey> !tell titan about pastebin
[10:01] <titan> Application tries to create a window, but no driver could be loaded.
[10:01] <titan> Make sure that your X server is running and that $DISPLAY is set correctly.
[10:01] <titan> what is the problem?
[10:01] <revartj> nickgarvey, no
[10:01] <IdleOne> sonic, the wiki page should tell you how. if its a .deb sudo dpkg -i file,deb
[10:01] <arrick> ok
[10:01] <variant> MenZa: gftp.. konqueror
[10:01] <arrick> titan use the pastebin
[10:01] <nickgarvey> tu en el canal?
[10:01] <MenZa> gftp, goody.
[10:01] <MenZa> don't want to use any kde-native applications if possible. Thanks variant .
[10:01] <revartj> i have SONY VAIO laptop VGN-a217s
[10:01] <prgrmr> what i need to install for gtk?
[10:02] <titan> nickgarvey: sorry, I know I tried that for about 5 min and go no anwers, most of the time people answer if they can see the problem, they hardly ever go look to see what I am having a problem with though.
[10:02] <IdleOne> revartj, escribas /join #ubuntu-es aqui in esta bentana
[10:02] <nickgarvey> !patience
[10:02] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Please be aware there are a lot of questions, but only maybe few who might know the answer for you. Please be patient. Your attitude may determine their willingness to help you.
[10:02] <revartj> i have configure the doking station
[10:02] <prgrmr> what i need to install for gtk??
[10:03] <revartj> IdleOne, En esa ventana no contestan
[10:03] <arrick> titan, you have to remember many problems at once in here, use patiense, if you have no time, wait until you do, please.
[10:03] <revartj> nadie ayuda
[10:03] <dabaR> prgrmr: your question is not good. are you compiling something and need the gtk bindings?
[10:03] <polpak> titan, I looked at your problem.. But don't have any suggestions other than to file a bug report with the wine project
[10:03] <arrick> !english
[10:03] <ubotu> arrick: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:03] <dabaR> :P
[10:03] <titan> arrick: ok, thanks
[10:03] <apoc> valberg: cant find anything on the wiki
[10:03] <nickgarvey> arrick: in that window they don't help is what he said
[10:03] <arrick> np:-) titan
[10:03] <arrick> oh ok
[10:04] <arrick> nickgarvey,  what is going on with hsi sytems?
[10:06] <errpast> anyone run a sip server and/or asterisk on Ub.  Any gotchas
[10:06] <prgrmr> i try compiling http://rafb.net/paste/results/OAYj5r41.html , but i get this http://rafb.net/paste/results/OA08Dd73.html
[10:06] <arrick> sombody oughtta remover the install lines that say 'selecting the previously deselected'
[10:06] <arrick> kind dumb to have it there, you are the one after all asking for the install
[10:06] <prgrmr> i try install libgtk2.0-dev
[10:08] <prgrmr> someone?
[10:08] <Mitja> Does anyone know how to disable pc speaker from console?
[10:08] <arrick> Mitja, unplug it?
[10:08] <dabaR> prgrmr: so install it...
[10:08] <Mitja> arrick, no, there's console method to do it, but I forgot about it
[10:08] <prgrmr> install what?
[10:08] <arrick> ok
[10:09] <prgrmr> libgtk2.0-dev don't help
[10:09] <dabaR> did you install that libgtk2.0-dev?
[10:09] <prgrmr> yes
[10:09] <nickgarvey> Mitja: amixer
[10:09] <dabaR> did you install all other offered gtk-dev packages?
[10:09] <troytroy> hi can amarok e used under gnome desktop environment
[10:09] <troytroy> hi can amarok e used under gnome desktop environment?
[10:10] <blenda> troytroy: yes
[10:10] <prgrmr> i think not
[10:11] <tonyyarusso> troytroy: Definitely.
[10:11] <edwina> help
[10:11] <prgrmr> dabaR, i think not
[10:11] <troytroy> blenda: hmm mine cant play anz files
[10:11] <Mitja> nickgarvey, amixer says it's already off, but it still "speaks"
[10:12] <troytroy> blenda: i have installed all softwares
[10:12] <Jube> how do I execute a .rpm file???
[10:12] <nickgarvey> Mitja: amixer set Master toggle
[10:12] <Jube> would I use terminal?
[10:12] <nickgarvey> !alien
[10:12] <ubotu> somebody said alien was a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Its use is discouraged, as it could create serious problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/
[10:12] <troytroy> blenda: mean all the plugins
[10:12] <Jube> ah
[10:12] <nickgarvey> mm didn't work for me though Mitja
[10:12] <nickgarvey> says it is off...
[10:12] <Jube> umm.. anything other than alien?
[10:12] <steveire> Can I mount my windows partition? I tried mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1 and it didn't work
[10:13] <IdleOne> !mount
[10:13] <ubotu> well, mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[10:13] <Mitja> nickgarvey, I don't want to have all sounds off, just the speaker. With master toggle off the speaker still works.
[10:14] <nickgarvey> Mitja: I win
[10:14] <nickgarvey> Mitja: amixer set 'Headphone' toggle
[10:14] <Mitja> nickgarvey, what do you mean?
[10:15] <maxallen> This is fun: I got X to start with the fglrx driver. I say, OMG! it started. I check fglrxinfo. It says I'm running the ATI driver. I type in glxgears.
[10:15] <maxallen> hard crash.
[10:15] <nickgarvey> steveire: some times hda1 is config files dell puts on or something, also, make sure /mnt/hda1 exists
[10:15] <got2b3d> I get segmentation faults trying to use blendr
[10:15] <got2b3d> *blender
[10:15] <blenda> troytroy: ok, i don't know about the plugins.
[10:15] <nickgarvey> Mitja: thats the command,
[10:15] <nickgarvey> Mitja: amixer set 'Headphone' toggle
[10:15] <maxallen> not just a hard crash, but when i rebooted and X didn't start, it displayed the image of the crash, which hadn't been flushed out of VRAM.
[10:15] <maxallen> so, are there any ideas?
[10:15] <troytroy> blenda: which engine do u use for urs
[10:15] <dabaR> prgrmr: aptitude search gtk|grep dev, install some.
[10:15] <tonyyarusso> maxallen: I'm assuming a second reboot does nothing as well?
[10:15] <maxallen> i wouldn't think so
[10:15] <edwina> I've got a couple of instances of an application bar floating around that I can't get rid of. They're gDesklets. Can anyone help a poor beginner ;-)
[10:16] <nickgarvey> !kill
[10:16] <ubotu> I heard kill is a command for getting rid of unwanted processes, usage: kill [-signal]  PID.  Signals are numbers: -15 is general exit, -9 forces quit.  See manual page for more.
[10:16] <Mitja> nickgarvey, unable to find 'Headphone'
[10:16] <tonyyarusso> maxallen: Might be worth trying anyway, solely since it's easier than a lot of other things.  Also, can you use ctrl-alt-F1 to get to a console from that, or is it locked?
[10:16] <maxallen> it seems like it's problems with DRI, except I've heard DRI problems go away if you use Option "UseInternalAGPGART" "no"
[10:16] <nickgarvey> Mitja: work?  worked fine for me, my speakers are in the headphone slot, where are yours?
[10:16] <maxallen> it's locked
[10:16] <edwina> Sounds good. How can I stop them starting up every time I boot?
[10:17] <Mitja> nickgarvey, I'm talking about pc speaker, not speakers
[10:17] <titan> I am getting this when I try and run winecfg, Application tries to create a window, but no driver could be loaded.
[10:17] <titan> Make sure that your X server is running and that $DISPLAY is set correctly. Anyone have any clue what is wrong?
[10:17] <maxallen> i had a console at one point, i used startx and it locked up
[10:17] <nickgarvey> Mitja: you mean the internal ones?
[10:17] <nickgarvey> Mitja: on the inside of the computer?
[10:17] <blenda> troytroy: i've only tried amarok once, i don't know about urs
[10:17] <Mitja> nickgarvey, yes
[10:17] <Answer> Question: how can set the primary and secondary DNS servers from the command line?
[10:17] <arrick> troytroy, what up man
[10:18] <duelboot> troytroy, I use xine
[10:18] <nickgarvey> Mitja: oh... ok, let me try google again
[10:18] <duelboot> troytroy, listening right now :)
[10:18] <tonyyarusso> maxallen: You might be able to boot a Live CD, mount the drives (like described in !recover), edit your xorg.conf to change the driver, and try again.  Might work.
[10:18] <dabaR> Answer: you would add them to /etc/resolv.conf, there is a man page for resolv.conf
[10:18] <Mitja> nickgarvey, good luck, been trying a fair bit
[10:18] <arrick> hey Answer https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StaticDnsWithDhcp?highlight=%28static%29
[10:18] <Answer> dabaR tnx
[10:19] <Jube> could anyone here give me some rpm help here please...
[10:19] <dabaR> no.
[10:19] <Jube> i dont know the command to install them
[10:19] <IdleOne> rpm = bad for ubuntu
[10:19] <Jube> its a library
[10:19] <troytroy> i installed amarok under gnome but cant play mp3 and other ristricted formats
[10:19] <duelboot> bad bad rpm, bad bad
[10:19] <maxallen> tonyyarusso: i've done that about 10 times.
[10:19] <IdleOne> still bad
[10:19] <Mitja> Jube, what do you want to do?
[10:20] <Jube> ah
[10:20] <duelboot> troytroy, you need the codecs
[10:20] <Jube> i'm trying to install a deb file
[10:20] <dabaR> Jube: what lib is it?
[10:20] <Jube> but it says i need a certain lib file
[10:20] <Jube> libssl0.9.8
[10:20] <tonyyarusso> maxallen: Dang.  I've got nothing then.  Guess you'll have to wait for someone more knowledgable :(
[10:20] <dabaR> which is?
[10:20] <duelboot> dpkg -i <deb file> jube
[10:20] <troytroy> duelboot: i installed all the codecs in the wiki pages
[10:20] <nickgarvey> Mitja: xset b off
[10:20] <Jube> i did that
[10:20] <linked> does anyone here have any experience with installing Web-CP on ubuntu? (web-cp.net)
[10:20] <Jube> it said i needed the librarys to install
[10:20] <maxallen> could having the framebuffers off be contributing?
[10:20] <Mitja> nickgarvey, thanks, it works!
[10:20] <nickgarvey> Mitja: :)
[10:20] <Mitja> nickgarvey, do you have a link?
[10:21] <dabaR> Jube: and it needs the 0.9.8 version, it can not work with 0.9.7?
[10:21] <blenda> troytroy: did you also install gstreamer0.8-mad?
[10:21] <Jube> no
[10:21] <duelboot> jube find them and install...you can sudo apt-get install <library>
[10:21] <nickgarvey> Mitja: I googled beeps linux, 4th site down :)
[10:21] <Jube> but i guess i'll try it
[10:21] <Jube> ooh
[10:21] <troytroy> blenda: yes
[10:21] <dabaR> Jube: what no? There is a libssl0.9.7 in ubuntu repos.
[10:21] <nickgarvey> Mitja: http://www.google.com/url?sa=U&start=4&q=http://linuxreviews.org/quicktips/bell/&e=14905&ei=wnc1RI2PJprsqAKfiPjkAw
[10:21] <Jube> thanks.. I'll remember that
[10:21] <troytroy> blenda: but am using dappe
[10:22] <Mitja> nickgarvey, 10x, preeshyadit
[10:22] <Jube> yes there is..
[10:22] <squiddle> truecrypt with ubuntu http://forums.truecrypt.org/viewtopic.php?t=2368
[10:22] <Jube> http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=libssl0.9.7&searchon=names&subword=1&version=breezy&release=all
[10:22] <blenda> troytroy: what's dappe?
[10:22] <Jube> right over there...
[10:22] <troytroy> blenda: but am using dapper 6.06
[10:23] <Mitja> nickgarvey, lol, I was on that page too but just thought it wouldn't work.
[10:23] <bibe> hm doesn't have anybody any idea how to install the network manager in ubuntu dapper flight 6?
[10:23] <bibe> http://www.gnome.org/projects/NetworkManager/
[10:23] <bibe> this is , what i wanna use
[10:23] <bibe> i have installed network-manager and network-manager-gnome. but where can i find this applet icon?
[10:23] <blenda> troytroy: ok. which engine do you use for amarok. xine, gstreamer or arts?
[10:23] <nickgarvey> Mitja: :) no problem
[10:23] <bibe> simply wanna configure wpa with a nice graphical tool :)
[10:24] <blenda> bibe: try right-clicking the panel and chosing "add to panel"
[10:24] <maxallen> !ati
[10:24] <ubotu> [ati]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[10:24] <dabaR> bibe: it is in dapper by default, right on the top of your screen in the right. Now, if it was to be missing, right click on the panel, add to panel, and add it.
[10:24] <blenda> in breezy it's quite buggy though. maybe it's better in dapper.
[10:24] <prgrmr> dabaR, 10X it's work now
[10:24] <bibe> yeah this is what i've tried. what is the name of the applet?
[10:25] <bibe> i've not found the network manager
[10:25] <bibe> only a network monitor
[10:25] <blenda> bibe: yes, try that one
[10:25] <bibe> and this is not what i've been looking for
[10:25] <Jube> dabaR, no, it wont work with 0.9.7
[10:25] <bibe> yeah this is already activated
[10:25] <bibe> but there i can't configure wpa with
[10:25] <blenda> bibe: right-click that one and choose configure
[10:25] <bibe> http://www.gnome.org/projects/NetworkManager/ <- i am looking for this
[10:25] <carthik> dabaR, by default? are you confusing the network monitor with the network manager?
[10:26] <carthik> bibe, after it is installed, you can start it using nm-applet if I am not wrong
[10:26] <bibe> yeah i've tried this too
[10:26] <bibe> but nothing happens
[10:26] <maxallen> anyone else have any experience with the fglrx ATI drivers, specifically on the AMD64 distro?
[10:27] <Rug> Howdy all
[10:27] <eugman> What program can I download to use a magnet: link?
[10:27] <monker13> HI
[10:28] <Rug> How do I completely remove xserver-xorg, gnome & kde, if when I try apt-get remove xserver-xorg I get an error on ubuntu-artwork?
[10:28] <redguy> does any one know if usage of dist-upgrader is encouraged when using kubuntu?
[10:29] <redguy> erm, anyone
[10:29] <nickgarvey> redguy: why not?
[10:29] <theripper> the package menager?
[10:30] <theripper> works great
[10:30] <redguy> nickgarvey: hmm, don't know. Just wanted to make sure... :-)
[10:31] <Zoroaster> can someone maybe offer an opinion as to why my 5.10 server, that has a static ip, is using the name server as the boradcast address?
[10:31] <afief> Where can i change the login screen in Ubuntu?
[10:32] <sfar> Hi, im looking for a torrent client.. Azuerus looks very nice but it takes like 10 seconds to start (and thats just horrible).. I'd prefer something like azureus but faster! (not ktorrent)
[10:32] <lampshade> anyone use skippy?
[10:32] <lampshade> so that they have OSX Expose like functionality with Gnome?
[10:32] <IdleOne> I dont like peanut butter
[10:33] <HedgeMage> afief: under system --> Administration --> login window
[10:33] <HedgeMage> afief: requires sudo rights
[10:33] <Rug> sfar: just use the console client, it works the best IMHO
[10:33] <theripper> try bittorrent
[10:33] <theripper> official
[10:33] <troytroy> hi anyone tried kismet with atheros ar5005g wi-fi before?
[10:33] <lampshade> haha that was NOT FUNNY :)
[10:33] <afief> HedgeMage: weird to have it in the administration menu when the theme part is in the preferences window
[10:34] <IdleOne> !lart lampshade
[10:34] <steveire> can I make ubuntu play wmas?
[10:34] <arrick> !lart IdleOne
[10:34] <arrick> haha
[10:34] <HedgeMage> afief: that's because the theme only effects the user setting it... the login screen effects everyone
[10:35] <arrick> hey IdleOne what does !lart mean, or what does it do?
[10:35] <afief> HedgeMage: when i browse for a new login maneger the files don't appear. should i give them a special extension or something?
[10:36] <IdleOne> arrick, try it out in #ubuntu-offtopix
[10:36] <IdleOne> arrick, try it out in #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:36] <tonyyarusso> arrick: Luser attitude readjustment tool.  The bot randomly chooses some way to beat on someone basically.  It only works in offtopic.
[10:36] <kung> gn8
[10:36] <arrick> oh ok
[10:36] <_alex__> hello
[10:36] <arrick> thanks
[10:36] <jason_> installed this morning, now i have all media working, playing my mp3s, wmvs, etc!  Firefox works, can read ntfs, and have learned something about the unverse (pardon the pun), thanks, you all have been a ton of help!
[10:36] <theripper> how do i use the console torrent ?
[10:36] <_alex__> can anyone help me install a sound card driver?
[10:36] <arrick> brb
[10:37] <ubuntu_rules> i have a problem with wine desktop opening...  i cant resize or see the info...  how can i revert it to its original settings?
[10:38] <_alex__> anyone?
[10:38] <linux_user400354> im using proftp in ubuntu. its not working. i dont know why. whenever someone trys to ftp, it says connected, but that person cant browse or see any files and directories. ftp://64.185.188.53:9000
[10:39] <ubuntu_rules> the size of the wine desktop right now is ~125x7
[10:41] <jocke1s> hi, my sound has apparently decided to stop working. Anyone wanna point me to how to start rectifying this?
[10:42] <HedgeMage> afief: not sure, haven't played with it that much... maybe someone else here knows more
[10:42] <maxallen_> surprise surprise.
[10:42] <maxallen_> I disable DRI and fglrx works
[10:42] <maxallen_> it's useless
[10:42] <maxallen_> but it works.
[10:42] <steveire> why is firefox v1.07 on adept and not ff v 1.5?
[10:42] <ubuntu_rules> would anyone happen to have any ideas on fixing my wine desktop?
[10:42] <ubuntu_rules> !firefox1.5
[10:42] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[10:42] <steveire> can i upgrade easily?
[10:43] <IdleOne> steveire, if you follow the wiki yes you can
[10:43] <steveire> thanks
[10:44] <lampshade> steveire, I did it recently it--was easy
[10:46] <rafal> pl
[10:46] <wwalker> is there an ubuntu equivalent to redhat's chkconfig?  ie, how do you configure services to start or not start at boot time?
[10:47] <wwalker> I know how to manually add and delete links under /etc/rc.* but assume there's a command line tool?
[10:47] <ubuntu_rules> i need to revert the original settings for my wine desktop...  any ideas?
[10:47] <Morrowyn> wwalker, links as in sym links? man ln
[10:48] <mourn> hi
[10:48] <erUSUL> wwalker, update-rc.d
[10:49] <Elazar> Is it possible to do a full install of Ubuntu from a Live CD or am I going to have to burn another CD to do it? :\
[10:49] <ClayG> http://www.overclockersclub.com/gallery/images/TheSternMystic10845924222.jpg
[10:49] <ClayG> anyone know how to remove a dell heatsink/
[10:50] <Morrowyn> with a screwdriver?
[10:50] <lampshade> SKippy anyone?
[10:50] <sfar> when i ./configure i often get "PKG_CONFIG_PATH"-errors.. can someone give me guidelines how to fix them?
[10:50] <lampshade> anyone use it for pretty windows?
[10:50] <Gosha> luke = luke711?
[10:51] <Mastastealth> hey, how do I enable the VNC server on a ubuntu machine via commandline?
[10:51] <Mastastealth> i know u can do it in Sytem -> administration
[10:51] <Mastastealth> but how do i do that via commandline, looks like the computer froze, and i need something off of it, so i want to vnc and see if its really dead
[10:52] <Gosha> masta-something: you cant? ... what are you going to do with vnc if you are running without desktop?
[10:52] <Mastastealth> the monitor wont show whats on the screen
[10:52] <Mastastealth> but i think i can VNC into it
[10:52] <Mastastealth> which is what i want to test
[10:52] <Gosha> ...okay, dun ask me the n:P
[10:53] <arrick> back
[10:53] <Elazar> Anybody know?
[10:53] <got2b3d> I get a segmentation fault with glxgears
[10:53] <wwalker> erUSUL: thx
[10:54] <arrick> whats the command for shecking an install?
[10:54] <arrick> checking even
[10:56] <ubuntu_rules> i need to revert the original settings for my wine desktop...  can someone plz give me an idea? i tried to remove and reinstall it...
[10:56] <got2b3d> what would cause a segmentation fault with glxgears?
[10:56] <BoukenPink> Hey all. :D
[10:57] <steveire> hi
[10:57] <Elazar> Is it possible to do a full install of Ubuntu from a Live CD or am I going to have to burn another CD to do it? :\
[10:58] <steveire> noia \o/
[10:58] <ubuntu_rules> Elazar, no...  live is not for installing
[10:58] <arrick> good the gui is going now
[10:58] <Elazar> ubuntu_rules: Crap... that sucks. OK, thanks.
[10:58] <lampshade> not unless it is the combo Live/Install dvd
[10:58] <yaaar> Elazar: depends on which version....the new dapper drake flights have a livecd that you can install from
[10:58] <IdleOne> Elazar, with dapper you can iirc
[10:58] <Elazar> *rae* Dapper?
[10:59] <IdleOne> !flight6
[10:59] <ubotu> [flight6]  http://www.ubuntu.com/testing
[10:59] <Pegasos989> !ntfs
[10:59] <ubotu> it has been said that ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[10:59] <Linuturk> is there a tutorial for installing the vmware tools on Ubuntu 5.10?
[10:59] <IdleOne> !vmware
[10:59] <ubotu> IdleOne: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:59] <eternex> what linux distro would you guys suggest that i get?
[10:59] <lampshade> this one for the win
[10:59] <yaaar> eternex: uh...you're in #ubuntu
[10:59] <IdleOne> eternex, I think you should try Ubuntu I hear great things about it
[10:59] <eternex> so
[11:00] <ekok> do anybody know how to mount a network folder on boot-up in ubuntu 5.10
[11:00] <yaaar> eternex: so asking what distro to try in a distro channel is downright silly
[11:00] <Linuturk> IdleOne: i've tried searching the website, and I couldn't find anything
[11:00] <jason_> is there winamp for linux?
[11:00] <Luke> jason_: beep-media-player
[11:00] <yaaar> jason_: either xmms or beep media player (bmp)
[11:00] <irvken> how do I get my wireless pcmcia card working on anew install of 5.01
[11:00] <lampshade> jason_, xmms is like winamp
[11:00] <Elazar> jason_: Not specifically, no. Winamp is a Windows application.
[11:00] <IdleOne> eternex, ubuntu is IMHO the easiest to use and configure distro and has the best community
[11:00] <yaaar> jason_:  i use beep
[11:00] <eternex> im running ubuntu... but some programs i want dont work on it
[11:00] <jason_> xmms sux.
[11:01] <lampshade> and rythmbox looks and feels like Itunes
[11:01] <irvken> atheros chipset
[11:01] <jason_> can i apt-get beep?
[11:01] <Elazar> jason_: But you've obviously got your choice of media players, from what the other people in the channel are listing.
[11:01] <irvken> dlink airplus
[11:01] <yaaar> jason_: yep, apt-get install beep-media-player
[11:01] <IdleOne> eternex, such as?
[11:01] <jason_> thx
[11:01] <arrick> hey guys I am getting an error trying to get my gnome gui running
[11:01] <eternex> enemy territory, and gtkradiant
[11:02] <yaaar> jason_: beep is pretty much xmms redone in gtk widgets. from my experience it's faster and less crash/bug prone, but i'm no expert
[11:02] <Linuturk> !dapper
[11:02] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[11:02] <maxallen> I HAVE THE ANSWER
[11:02] <maxallen> i went to the BIOS
[11:02] <jason_> it took me half a day to make mp3s work, now i just want a good proggie to do it with!
[11:02] <jason_> thanks again folks
[11:02] <maxallen> and turned on everything with regards to AGP and opened up the window all the way
[11:02] <maxallen> and now my card works
[11:02] <ompaul> maxallen, please do not use CAPS we read lower case, and put all the thoughts back to back on one line
[11:02] <arrick> /etc/X11/xnit/xserverrc: line 2: /usr/bin/X11/X: nos such file or directory
[11:03] <arrick> and cannot execute:
[11:03] <Linuturk> when dapper comes out, how will an upgrade for an existing system work?
[11:03] <Zoroaster> can someone maybe offer an opinion as to why my 5.10 server, that has a static ip, is using the name server as the boradcast address?
[11:03] <maxallen> plz, i spent the last 4 and a half hours trying to get the fglrx drivers working
[11:03] <Zoroaster> I tried specifying the bcast address in the interfaces file, and omitting it
[11:03] <arrick> xinit: connection refused (errno 11) : unable to connect to xserver
[11:03] <yaaar> Linuturk: change /etc/apt/sources.lst and run apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade is the typical prescription
[11:03] <ubuntukeith> hey I was wondering if anyone uses mediawiki?
[11:04] <arrick> hey guys I am getting an error trying to get my gnome gui running
[11:04] <arrick> hey guys I am getting an error trying to get my gnome gui running
[11:04] <arrick> /etc/X11/xnit/xserverrc: line 2: /usr/bin/X11/X: nos such file or directory
[11:04] <arrick> xinit: connection refused (errno 11) : unable to connect to xserver
[11:04] <yaaar> ubuntukeith: wikipedia does...
[11:04] <arrick> and cannot execute:
[11:04] <Gean> hi i have a question?
[11:04] <Zoroaster> when I do an ifconfig, I still get my dns server (nameserver) as the broadcast address?
[11:04] <ubuntu_rules> !ask
[11:04] <ubotu> Just ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model, outputs of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl is important.
[11:04] <ubuntukeith> thats awsome yaaar
[11:04] <yaaar> hehe
[11:04] <Gean> is it possible to view ntfs disk or partitions in ubuntu?
[11:04] <arrick> yes
[11:05] <ubuntu_rules> es
[11:05] <arrick> !ntfs
[11:05] <IdleOne> !ntfs
[11:05] <ubotu> well, ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[11:05] <ubuntu_rules> fdisk
[11:05] <ubuntukeith> I have been trying to fight it on my FC5 and I like ubuntu much better anyways
[11:05] <Zoroaster> no ones gonna talk me?  do I have to join a windows group to show yall I mean business?
[11:06] <iGotNoTime> LOL
[11:06] <gverig> howdy!
[11:06] <arrick> Zoroaster, nobody will talk to you in a windows group, you will only get help here, patience is the key
[11:06] <harisund> howdy gverig
[11:06] <iGotNoTime> My IRC is set to scream AAAAKKKKK when the word windows is highlighted :P
[11:06] <yaaar> Zoroaster: what's the command you're using to configure the interface?
[11:06] <harisund> yaar: Zoroaster seems to have quit
[11:06] <gverig> I am trying to install a theme from gnome-look and so far I'm not having much luck :-\
[11:06] <Zoroaster> yaaar, I go into /etc/network, then I sudo nano interfaces
[11:07] <ubuntu_rules> i need to revert the original settings for my wine desktop...  can someone plz give me an idea? i tried to remove and reinstall it...
[11:07] <ubuntukeith> well I hope you all have a great night or day depending on where ya live
[11:07] <arrick> _jason, you here?
[11:07] <Zoroaster> basically I have an entry for ip address, netmask, gateway, network & broadcast
[11:07] <ubuntu_rules> !bad bot
[11:07] <ubotu> No, you're a bad person, ubuntu_rules
[11:07] <Zoroaster> harisund, nah, I'm here
[11:07] <harisund> Zoroaster, oh ok . I just saw a leaving message.
[11:07] <yaaar> Zoroaster: can you pastebin that file?
[11:08] <gverig> Theme is http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=26980 ; I do see window borders and controls but I do not see icons and I do not see a "whole theme"
[11:08] <gverig> Any ideas?
[11:08] <Gean> thank u very much about the ntfs question
[11:08] <Zoroaster> yaaar, let me try, I'm still having rouble making ssh work
[11:09] <ScrappyJoel> What all do I need to install to get gcc working? I tried just apt-get install gcc but it seems like the system header files are missing.
[11:09] <arrick> what should the repos be for xubuntu?
[11:09] <yaaar> ScrappyJoel: i think you need build-essential
[11:09] <Samineru> what would be the best format to put one of my partitions in?
[11:09] <yaaar> Samineru: er....what are you planning on doing with the partition?
[11:10] <arrick> !help
[11:10] <ScrappyJoel> yaaar: that worked great, thanks
[11:10] <IdleOne> arrick, same as ubuntu
[11:10] <ubuntu_rules> !themes
[11:10] <MikkelK> Hi. I've downloaded and burned Dapper Drake. When I try to boot i only get this image http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=500&slide=1, but not the text. Nothing happens when i press ENTER, F1, F2 etc. Anybody know what to do?
[11:11] <yaaar> ScrappyJoel: np
[11:11] <ubuntu_rules> !dapper
[11:11] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[11:11] <arrick> IdleOne, neither one is working to install anything
[11:11] <sonic> hi guys, can anyone tell me the easiest way to find out which kernel I am running?
[11:11] <Samineru> yaaar I would just be using it as extra space
[11:11] <arrick> and i have enabled unverse and multiverse
[11:11] <IdleOne> arrick, what country code you using?
[11:11] <ubuntu_rules> sonic, type /sv in irc
[11:11] <arrick> us now, cause the ei wouldnt work
[11:11] <IdleOne> arrick, change it to ei
[11:11] <arrick> wont work
[11:11] <yaaar> Samineru: and you only need to access it from linux machines?
[11:11] <arrick> tells me error
[11:12] <IdleOne> lemme try
[11:12] <Samineru> yes, this is just on my laptop
[11:12] <sonic> thanks, although that gives me a problem
[11:12] <sonic> I'm reading instructions on installing something, and it tells me --- "Once the search is complete find linux-restricted-modules-386 (or linux-restricted-modules-686 if you are running the 686 kerne"
[11:12] <IdleOne> arrick, did you run apt-get update and upgrade?
[11:13] <sonic> when I type /sv it says Linux 2.6.15-18-386 [i686
[11:13] <arrick> no upgrade IdleOne never done that one before
[11:13] <yaaar> Samineru: then ext3 and reiserfs are probably the two most typical choices. i like to use reiserfs, and it's always treated me well, but there's a big religious war here. i don't think it makes a great deal of difference to most people between those two
[11:13] <sonic> does that mean i have 386 or 686? :S
[11:13] <ubuntu_rules> you are running 2.6.15 i386
[11:13] <IdleOne> arrick, is synaptic running ?
[11:13] <arrick> but the security.ubunt.com ones throw errors as well
[11:13] <tappaja> I installed php but where I can find that php.ini or other config files?
[11:13] <arrick> IdleOne, no gui
[11:13] <sonic> thanks man :)
[11:13] <jerware> how do i personally message some on
[11:13] <ubuntu_rules> np
[11:13] <jerware> from x chat
[11:14] <jerware> have our own chat window
[11:14] <ubuntu_rules> jerware, /msg <nick> <msg>
[11:14] <IdleOne> arrick, make sure they arent # in sources.list
[11:14] <arrick> jerware, you gotta be registered
[11:14] <arrick> IdleOne, that was the first thing i did
[11:14] <IdleOne> !tell jerware about register
[11:14] <ubuntu_rules> jerware, but make sure you have the persons permission to pm them
[11:14] <jerware> oh ok
[11:15] <IdleOne> arrick, you saved the sources.list ? just making sure
[11:15] <arrick> IdleOne, im gonna just install ssh so I can log from school and work on it
[11:15] <arrick> yeah
[11:15] <g4rb4ge> how to install zsnes in ubuntu?
[11:15] <arrick> !ssh
[11:15] <ubotu> well, ssh is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdvancedOpenSSH
[11:15] <IdleOne> arrick, sudo apt-get openssh-server
[11:15] <IdleOne> install*
[11:16] <arrick> yeah
[11:16] <Samineru> yaaar im experiencing a problem in gparted, I have /dev/hda3 in extended (i don't know why) and it drops down into hda5 and hda6. When i try to delete hda5 it says "Please unmount any logical partitions having a number higher than 5" but i cannot unmount hda6, when i right click it unmount is greyed out
[11:16] <arrick> hey IdleOne let me know what my ip is in the #arrick will you?
[11:17] <yaaar> Samineru: how many partitions are you trying to create?
[11:17] <sfar> arrick:  71.115.186.12
[11:17] <Samineru> yaaar im trying to consolidate them all
[11:17] <yaaar> Samineru: and do you know how extended partions work? (i.e. that all extended parts are "inside" one of the first 4 primary parts?)
[11:17] <g4rb4ge> somebody helps me, install snes emulator in ubuntu
[11:17] <yaaar> Samineru: consolodate them all?
[11:17] <ubuntu_rules> !emu
[11:17] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ubuntu_rules
[11:17] <Samineru> yaaar I kind of figured that out
[11:18] <Samineru> yaaar well i can get down to two i know
[11:18] <fusi> any madleet haxor way that i can change the mac address of a bluetooth usb dongle with ubuntu?
[11:18] <yaaar> Samineru: you are hoping to end up with just one big / partition and a swap?
[11:18] <IdleOne> !info snes
[11:18] <Jube> how do i look at programs that i currently have open?
[11:18] <Samineru> yaaar yes
[11:18] <yaaar> fusi: do bluetooth devices *have* mac addresses?
[11:18] <fusi> yaaar: yea
[11:18] <fusi> i bought two really cheap dongles
[11:19] <fiendskull9> yo, if i install dapper on a new partition (i am). will it auto detetct my ubuntu partition (along with windows, which i know it will), or should i save menu.lst to a floppy?
[11:19] <fusi> and they both have the same mac address lol :/
[11:19] <fusi> and therefore cant communicate
[11:19] <kingspawn> hm, i've changed my hostname, and now sshd refuses to restart, complaining it can't get the hostname - anyone know what to do?
[11:19] <fusi> (dont buy safecom ;/)
[11:19] <IdleOne> kingspawn, change it back
[11:19] <fusi> was just wondering if i coud change the mac address of one so that they can communicate
[11:19] <yaaar> fusi: i sincerely doubt that two seperate and distinct devices have the same factory-assigned mac addres
[11:19] <kingspawn> IdleOne: must be a way to make ssh update itself?
[11:20] <IdleOne> fusi, mac addy is hard coded isnt it?
[11:20] <fusi> yaaar: honest to god, they are both 11:11:11:11:11:11
[11:20] <yaaar> Samineru: ok, have you deleted hda6 yet?
[11:20] <yaaar> fusi: then those numbers are erroneous
[11:20] <Jube> does anyone know how I see what progams i currently running?
[11:20] <IdleOne> kingspawn, I wouldnt know how :/
[11:20] <Samineru> yaaar it won't let me
[11:20] <yaaar> fusi: which should be obvious anyway from the fact that it's all 1's
[11:20] <ubuntu_rules> fusi, thats impossible to have 2 of the same mac addy
[11:20] <yaaar> Samineru: what's the output of 'mount'
[11:21] <squiddle> it is easy to change the mac yourself
[11:21] <fusi> these bluetooth dongles have the same mac, thats what ubuntu tells me and thats what windows tells me
[11:21] <yaaar> ubuntu_rules: well, it's not impossible, but it's extremely unlikely
[11:21] <ubuntu_rules> eh
[11:21] <yaaar> fusi: something else is afoot here
[11:21] <ubuntu_rules> ive never seen it
[11:21] <yaaar> ubuntu_rules: me neither
[11:21] <yaaar> ubuntu_rules: but then i've never seen sirius supernova either
[11:21] <fusi> the bluetooth software on windows does something that changes the dongles mac adress to 10:11:11:11:11:11
[11:22] <fusi> but ubuntu doesnt do that
[11:22] <nnn> I had ubuntu and winXP installed on same hard disk on different partitions. But then I had to format the partition carrying XP and reinstall XP which removed my grub loader and I can not access my ubuntu OS anymore. How do I reinstall grub
[11:22] <ubuntu_rules> !grub
[11:22] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[11:22] <fusi> but even so when i try and detect the windows machine from unbuntu, it says the dongle has the 11:11etc mac address
[11:22] <bulio|> 20GB hard drive should be plenty for ubuntu, right?\
[11:22] <fusi> so it seems the windows software is dynamically resassigning the ma address in/from software :x
[11:22] <IdleOne> bulio|, yes
[11:23] <Samineru> yaaar http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11627
[11:23] <fusi> theyre shit dongles tbh
[11:23] <yaaar> bulio|: far in excess of what's needed
[11:23] <got2b3d> please help.  seg fault using anything 3d.  'glxgears, blender, etc'.
[11:23] <bulio|> also, the machine that I'm installing it on has 667Mhz cpu and 128MB ram
[11:23] <Kolan> !kernel
[11:23] <bulio|> thats plenty too?
[11:23] <IdleOne> bulio|, thats plenty also
[11:23] <ubuntu_rules> !language
[11:23] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[11:23] <Jube> Does anybody know how I can see what programs I currently have open? Is there a shortcut or something somewhere here?
[11:23] <IdleOne> Jube, ps aux in terminal
[11:24] <Jube> thanks IdleOne
[11:24] <Jube> how do i open them when i see them?
[11:24] <bulio|> I'm now downloading the Ubuntu 5.10-i386 torrent
[11:24] <bulio|> 617Mb, right?
[11:24] <mwe> got2b3d: what error do you get, other than segfault?
[11:24] <IdleOne> bulio|, looks right
[11:25] <IdleOne> bulio|, why dont you get it from www.ubuntu.com
[11:25] <bulio|> faster via torrent
[11:25] <yaaar> Samineru: hmmm....so your / partition is hda4.......that may be why it's complaining
[11:25] <bulio|> I got the torrent off ubuntu site
[11:25] <IdleOne> bulio|, ok
[11:25] <got2b3d> mwe, $/usr/bin/blender: line 46: 9543 Segmentation fault    blender-bin$@
[11:26] <bulio|> ubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso.torrent	2005-Oct-12 22:52:48	24.3K	application/x-bittorrent
[11:26] <yaaar> Samineru: see, your logical partitions are stuffed inside hda3, which is to say hda4 is after them in the disc layout...
[11:26] <yaaar> Samineru: which may explain the error you're getting about having 'higher logical devices' mounted
[11:26] <Samineru> i see
[11:26] <bulio|> does the ubuntu 4.10 Live-CD come with ndiswrapper?
[11:26] <bulio|> not 5.10, 4.10
[11:26] <yaaar> Samineru: unfortunately, i'm not sure i see a really good way to work around that....
[11:26] <Rdde> how can i use the different cron directorys to run scripts? i want to put scripts in the different folders (hourly, dayly aso) shall i just put the scripts in the folders? doesn't seam to work.. =(
[11:26] <Samineru> yaaar so what choices do i have?
[11:26] <metho> !pastebin
[11:27] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[11:27] <mwe> got2b3d: anything interesting in dmesg after that?
[11:27] <yaaar> Samineru: at the very least, you'd need to boot into a livecd or some other environment that's not running from your / partition, and then do your partitioning while no parts of the disc are mounted
[11:27] <bulio|> SMCWUSBT 108Mbps Wireless USB 2.0 Adapter
[11:27] <Samineru> could i do that with the livecd that came with ubuntu?
[11:27] <got2b3d> mwe thats about it.  for glxgears i just get 'Segmentation Fault'
[11:27] <bulio|> would that card work under ndiswrapper
[11:27] <yaaar> Samineru: that's not really a terrible idea anyway.....i rarely do any partitioning from within a system that's on the to-be-partitioned disc
[11:28] <Samineru> yaaar, problem, my cd drive does not function
[11:28] <yaaar> Samineru: i would expect the ubuntu livecd would be fine for the process....although i'm not sure whether it has gparted. i use fdisk anyway
[11:28] <mwe> got2b3d: if you type dmesg does anything related show up near the end?
[11:28] <metho> how do i solve the rar problem>>http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11628
[11:28] <yaaar> Samineru: without a cd drive, this gets lots triciet
[11:28] <IdleOne> !tell bulio| about wireless
[11:28] <mthakur> how do i install apache
[11:28] <yaaar> s/triciet/trickier
[11:28] <IdleOne> !apache
[11:28] <thebrasse> Hello! Can someone tell me what command I can use to get a list of what files a package will intall before I install it?
[11:28] <ubotu> [apache]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[11:29] <mthakur> thanks mate!
[11:29] <yaaar> thebrasse: apt-get -s install <package>
[11:29] <mwe> thebrasse: apt-file show package
[11:29] <Rdde> can anyone explain how the different cron folders works?
[11:29] <mwe> thebrasse: install apt-file first. then sudo apt-file update
[11:29] <thebrasse> yaaar, that only tells me what packages will be installed...
[11:29] <metho> how do i solve the rar problem>>http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11628
[11:29] <mwe> thebrasse: I told you
[11:29] <yaaar> thebrasse: oh, right....misread
[11:30] <thebrasse> mwe, nice!
[11:30] <got2b3d> mwe, http://pastebin.com/644952
[11:30] <thebrasse> nwe, thanks!
[11:30] <Samineru> yaaar is it possible to boot from an iso?
[11:30] <mwe> yw
[11:30] <Samineru> wait then the iso would be on a mounted drive...
[11:30] <yaaar> Samineru: i wouldn't know how to go about it...
[11:31] <mwe> got2b3d: hmm
[11:31] <mwe> got2b3d: when did it start?
[11:31] <metho> i cant get rar installation to work... following is the url, please see>>http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11628
[11:31] <Rdde> please, anyone ever used the cron direktorys?
[11:31] <got2b3d> mwe, right after i installed the graphics card
[11:31] <metho> anyone?
[11:31] <Samineru> yaaar idea, could i put the iso on an external hard drive I have and boot off of that?
[11:31] <mwe> got2b3d: and nvidia drivers or something?
[11:31] <jnk> metho, you must enable the multiverse repository
[11:32] <metho> jnk: how do i do that
[11:32] <Se7h> wow i just looked at the users count now
[11:32] <Se7h> ~ 700
[11:32] <Se7h> :o
[11:32] <got2b3d> mwe nvidia-legacy
[11:32] <jnk> metho, you can do that from synaptic for example, don't remember in which menu it is but have a look
[11:32] <wolfiee> :)  Yeah, I've new to ubuntu and linux, and loving every minute!
[11:32] <yaaar> Samineru: why don't you back everything up to the ext hard drive and then reinstall the box? seems easier
[11:32] <mwe> got2b3d: well are those really what you need? did you read the wiki?
[11:32] <Se7h> jeje
[11:32] <got2b3d> mwe link?
[11:33] <mwe> !tell got2b3d about nvidia
[11:33] <Samineru>  what folders would i need to back up?
[11:33] <mwe> got2b3d: see /msg from ubotu
[11:33] <Samineru> yaaar ^ besides home
[11:33] <yaaar> Samineru: just whatever personal files you have...or anything "special" you've added beyond apt-getting stuff and stuff you can get off the net once you've installed
[11:33] <IdleOne> !tell metho about repos
[11:34] <yaaar> Samineru: and any custom configs, etc.
[11:34] <metho> thanks very much!!!
[11:34] <yaaar> boy i'm getting anxious waiting on this php compile on my server....
[11:34] <_alex__> alguien sabe como instalar los modulos de sonido
[11:34] <Samineru> yaaar how will i be able to reinstall ubuntu without a cd drive
[11:34] <_alex__> mi kernel no los tiene
[11:34] <yaaar> taking forever
[11:34] <yaaar> Samineru: how'd you install in the first place?
[11:35] <erUSUL> !es
[11:35] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:35] <bliss1_> hi
[11:35] <Samineru> yaaar well my cd drive was working then, by the way it's a hardware, not software issue
[11:35] <yaaar> howdy bliss1_
[11:35] <mwe> unless the system is really fubar, reinstalling seems like overkill
[11:35] <kevogod> Is anyone else here experiencing memory leaks in Nautilus?
[11:35] <bliss1_> Seveas; are you in the room
[11:35] <Jimmey__> kevogod, how can I check
[11:35] <bliss1_> yaar: hi you ok
[11:36] <yaaar> mwe: yeah, it's not strictly necessary....but he's got his / partition in hda4, with extended parts 5,6 inside hda3, and i dunno what in 1,2
[11:36] <yaaar> mwe: and he wants to consolidate them all down to just / and swap
[11:36] <Seveas> bliss1_, no
[11:36] <yaaar> mwe: i can't figure a real good way to go about that
[11:36] <kevogod> Jimmey__: System > Administration > System Monitor.... Although it would be very noticeable.
[11:36] <metho> got it work, thanks for the help!!!
[11:36] <mwe> yaaar: yeah. in that case ...
[11:36] <thebrasse> nwe, hmm.. I tried to do the following 'apt-file list powersaved' but I get no output. I installed apt-file now, do I need to apt-file update?
[11:36] <Jimmey__> kevogod, in that case, I don't think so..
[11:37] <Jimmey__> How can you tell a memory leak?
[11:37] <snozle> does anyone know how I can change the driver my wireless card is using to hostap?
[11:37] <Samineru> yaaar 1 and 2 are unallocated
[11:37] <yaaar> weird
[11:37] <snozle> I installed the hostap package but It is still using orinoco
[11:37] <Samineru> well i just deleted the partitions there
[11:37] <mwe> thebrasse: yeah. sudo apt-file update
[11:38] <kevogod> Jimmey__: When memory for an application increases indefinitely and dogs the entire system down.
[11:38] <yaaar> finished!
[11:38] <thebrasse> mwe, do you think that will leave my apt-get data untouched. I would not like to apt-get update right now...
[11:38] <mwe> thebrasse: yes
[11:38] <Jimmey__> kevogod, I knew Nautilus was a bit of a heavy-weight, maybe you could choose another browse?
[11:38] <mwe> thebrasse: it's safe
[11:38] <Jimmey__> *Browser
[11:39] <kevogod> Jimmey__: No, it is a memory leak.
[11:40] <mwe> so now nautilus can't browse windows shares properly and has a mem leak as well ...
[11:40] <kevogod> Nautilus' memory allocation exceeds 900 MB and will continue to increase when in a certain folder.
[11:40] <kevogod> It is only one folder and it is not a Samba share.
[11:40] <PwcrLinux> Hello there
[11:40] <PwcrLinux> liable: u there?
[11:41] <kevogod> mwe: It seems like it is a very specific issue for leaking.
[11:41] <mwe> kevogod: report a bug and use a working file browser
[11:42] <kevogod> mwe: I have to find out what is causing the problem first.
[11:42] <mwe> kevogod: if you can
[11:42] <Rdde> anyone knows anything about cron ? getting desperet =)
[11:42] <mwe> kevogod: recompile the package with debug symbols and make a trace if you like
[11:43] <mwe> kevogod: this is written for dapper but would apply to breezy as well: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=100738
[11:44] <jcmcbeth> Anyone know what "Error reading /home/user/.nano_history: Permission denied
[11:44] <jcmcbeth> " means when trying to use pico to open a text file?
[11:44] <kevogod> mwe: OK, thanks
[11:44] <irad> Is there any way i can open my CD-ROM? i can't open it manually
[11:44] <mwe> kevogod: if you can reproduce it and explain the conditions, explaining that is sufficient for a bug report though
[11:44] <jnk> irad, first unmount it
[11:44] <got2b3d> mwe I uninstalled the nvidia drivers and am using the xserver drivers for SiS, which is what I have.  Same errors.
[11:45] <irad> jnk how?
[11:45] <PwcrLinux> irad: pop into cdrom and wait for desktop appearing a icon..
[11:45] <jnk> irad, you don't have an icon on the desktop (if you have, right-click...)
[11:45] <linux_user400354> does anyone know how to set up proftpd in ubuntu?
[11:45] <mwe> got2b3d: but it used to work?
[11:45] <got2b3d> mwe no
[11:45] <Joetheodd> irad: sudo eject /media/cdrom0
[11:45] <got2b3d> never yet
[11:45] <irad> jnk aight,i don't have and mount option
[11:45] <jnk> jcmcbeth, try typing "chmod u+r /home/user/.nano_histsory" in a terminal
[11:45] <got2b3d> mwe I reconfigured xorg.conf several times.
[11:46] <irad> Joetheodd: you are my lord
[11:46] <irad> :)
[11:46] <mwe> got2b3d: ok. hmm. I'm not sure what to do now since there are no real errors
[11:46] <mwe> got2b3d: exept for the segfault
[11:46] <irad> Joetheodd: you just saved my day from a boring day without music in my car
[11:46] <got2b3d> yeah, minor one, there.
[11:46] <Joetheodd> irad: Thou shalt not make an idol... er thanks! =p
[11:46] <Joetheodd> irad: Haha, glad to help.
[11:46] <irad> :P
[11:47] <irad> thanks
[11:47] <mwe> got2b3d: you could post on the forums. it's a pretty serious problem
[11:47] <got2b3d> mwe ok.  thankyou for your help
[11:47] <mwe> got2b3d: or try asking again in the room
[11:47] <mwe> got2b3d: maybe someone else has an idea
[11:47] <got2b3d> ok
[11:47] <andrewski> i have a process i can't kill (sound-juicer), even when i try using 'kill -9'.  can anyone explain how that could happen, or how to kill it?
[11:47] <got2b3d> anyone understand why I would get a seg fault using any 3d apps?
[11:47] <Rdde> anyone knows anything about cron ?
[11:48] <_harm> when using Mplayer how can i make the movie file the size of the entire screen? full screen just fills up the emptyness with a color :S
[11:48] <andrewski> Rdde: what's up?
[11:48] <PwcrLinux> if cdrom didn't eject you can ethier use mouse over the cd icon and right click to see the "Eject" or push pin into your CDrom bazel hole to open it.
[11:48] <bliss1_> Seveas: ompaul said yesterday that you might be able to help me with a RAM question. here are two patebins to look at please http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11549 and http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11552
[11:48] <jnk> andrewski, in my experience, this can happen with I/O problems
[11:48] <BoukenPink> I sure wish I could install Dapper Flight 6 >.>
[11:48] <andrewski> jnk: hmm, how do you mean?  (i think i've noticed it mostly with apps using my CD drive.)
[11:49] <andrewski> BoukenPink: why can't you dist-upgrade?
[11:49] <jnk> _harm, put "vo=xv" in .mplayer/config
[11:49] <duelboot> nickgarvey, arrick, anyone help...trying to install ndiswrapper and get the following error at:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11629
[11:49] <fusi> if anyone cares: http://mhonarc.axis.se/bluetooth-dev/msg03272.html
[11:49] <mwe> got2b3d: or post the output of strace glxgears on pastebin.com
[11:49] <Rdde> andrewski, can i just put scripts in the  different directorys (like daily and hourly)  and they will run? doesnt seam to work
[11:49] <_harm> jnk were is that located?
[11:49] <BoukenPink> andrewski: I tried that with flight 5 and got really broken... and Trying to install with a Flight 5 CD or a Flight 6 CD leeds to a frozen installer~
[11:49] <mwe> got2b3d: if you post the output I'll have a look. I can't promise I can solve your problem but I can at least look at it
[11:49] <jnk> _harm, type this in the terminal:  echo vo=xv >> ~/.mplayer/config
[11:50] <andrewski> Rdde: hmm, no, you need to edit your crontab file.  (man crontab)
[11:50] <got2b3d> mwe, http://pastebin.com/644991
[11:50] <Christopher> hey
[11:50] <Christopher> I need some help
[11:50] <Bambino_> How do I change my screen resolution in KDE?
[11:50] <Rdde> andrewski, ok, i will read it ones more then.. thanks
[11:50] <andrewski> BoukenPink: well, you should see if there have been any fixed bugs on launchpad.net.  if not, you should post some. :)
[11:50] <andrewski> Rdde: g'luck.
[11:50] <IdleOne> !tell Bambino about fixres
[11:50] <_harm> jnk thx found it :P are all config files in ~/* ?
[11:51] <IdleOne> Bambino, also try #kubuntu
[11:51] <jnk> andrewski, well when my drive has troubles reading a disk, I get non-killable processes (but most of the time I just have to wait)
[11:51] <Christopher> Im new to ubuntu and I need to learn how to install applications
[11:51] <andrewski> Bambino: ask KDE questions in #kubuntu
[11:51] <Christopher> Can anyone help me
[11:51] <jnk> _harm, all config files of this kind
[11:51] <IdleOne> !tell Christopher about synaptic
[11:51] <IdleOne> !tell Christopher about repos
[11:51] <andrewski> jnk: hmm, that sounds exactly like what happened.  only fix is to logout and back in?  or are there reportable bugs here?
[11:52] <BoukenPink> andrewski, Mmmkay :)
[11:52] <_harm> jnk it already says vo=xv twce
[11:52] <_harm> twice*
[11:52] <jnk> andrewski, logout fixes this? I didn't know :)
[11:52] <andrewski> BoukenPink: if you need any help with any of that, you ask here or in #launchpad.
[11:52] <Christopher> idleone can you help me
[11:52] <got2b3d> mwe thankyou once again for helping
[11:52] <jnk> _harm, can you paste your config file at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ ?
[11:52] <duelboot> Help!  See this for an ndiswrapper issue on install :(  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11629
[11:53] <Rdde> andrewski,  it looks like all is pre set to run the scripts in the different folders
[11:53] <andrewski> jnk: well, actually, logout doesn't fix it because i can't actually logout. ^_^  i have to ctrl+alt+backspace to restart X and then they're gone (i think, maybe i'm wrong!)
[11:53] <jnk> andrewski, ok I'll try that next time :)
[11:53] <andrewski> Rdde: hmm, i'm not sure.  to be honest, i haven't messed with cron on ubuntu at all.  maybe check the forums?
[11:53] <mwe> got2b3d: I can't spot the cause. sorry
[11:53] <BoukenPink> andrewski, kay, thanks :)
[11:53] <_harm> jnk http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11631 << cooler then pastebin :p
[11:53] <andrewski> jnk: do you know/think if i should report any bugs on this?
[11:53] <got2b3d> ok, thankyou mwe
[11:53] <andrewski> BoukenPink: np
[11:54] <Christopher> can someone show me how to install apps
[11:54] <Christopher> plz
[11:54] <jnk> andrewski, it wouldn't hurt but I really doubt they would get it fixed...
[11:54] <got2b3d> mwe I have a TNT2 in my agp slot.  Could I get that running?
[11:54] <andrewski> jnk: well, i'll look into it.  thanks for the info!
[11:54] <Rdde> andrewski, you know if i need to restart something to make changes in cron tab active?
[11:54] <Christopher> CAN SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME
[11:54] <jnk> Rdde, maybe "invoke-rc.d cron restart"
[11:55] <andrewski> Rdde: no, you don't.  i guess you should make sure the cron service(s) is/are running... System | Administration | Services
[11:55] <mwe> got2b3d: maybe. what's the card you're trying to use now?
[11:55] <andrewski> ubotu: tell Christopher about patience
[11:55] <IdleOne> Christopher, look for msg from ubotu
[11:55] <BoukenPink> I love Ubuntu >>
[11:55] <jnk> Christopher, what do you want to install?
[11:55] <andrewski> ubotu: tell Christopher about synaptic
[11:55] <_harm> jnk: tell _harm about his pastebin
[11:56] <andrewski> ubotu: tell Christopher about install
[11:56] <got2b3d> mwe SiS 85C
[11:56] <Christopher> jnk i want to install the new version of firefox, a program called hamachi, and limewire
[11:56] <andrewski> Christopher: you're welcome. :)
[11:56] <BoukenPink> :D
[11:56] <IdleOne> !tell Christopher about ff1.5
[11:56] <jnk> lol
[11:56] <ubuntu> hey ciao
[11:56] <mwe> got2b3d: but is that supposed to work with nvidia-legacy ?
[11:56] <IdleOne> !tell Christopher about limewire
[11:56] <got2b3d> mwe, yes
[11:57] <IdleOne> Christopher, are you seeing those msgs from ubotu ?
[11:57] <_harm> ubotu: tell Christopher about frostwire
[11:57] <Christopher> yes
[11:57] <andrewski> ubotu: tell Christopher about firefox1.5
[11:57] <Christopher> thank you so much
[11:57] <mwe> got2b3d: did you do the sudo nvidia-glx-config enable and all?
[11:57] <andrewski> Christopher: you can ask ubotu to tell you about these things too, if you'd rather.  and if you have any questions about anything specific from those pages, don't hesitate to ask here.
[11:57] <kh4nh> hi
[11:58] <duelboot> ubotu do you sleep?   hehehe
[11:58] <ubotu> duelboot: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:58] <got2b3d> mwe, yes.  it kept showing I had a SIS 630/730 installed but I don't.
[11:58] <duelboot> lol
[11:58] <IdleOne> !tell Christopher about paypal :P
[11:58] <_harm> sorry back :P
[11:58] <mwe> got2b3d: ah
[11:58] <kh4nh> can any1 tell me where is the X windows include files
[11:58] <_harm> jnk did u have a chance to look at my pastebin?
[11:59] <mwe> got2b3d: does lspci recognize it correctly?
[11:59] <Christopher> lol
[11:59] <Christopher> thanks everyone
[11:59] <kh4nh> can anyone tell me where is the X include files directory?
[11:59] <jnk> _harm, oops sorry I had forgotten
[11:59] <got2b3d> mwe it recognizes the S3Virge and a phantom SiS 630/730
[11:59] <dasenjo> I have xdmcp configured with the gdm configuration utility, but it takes so much time to see host with the xdmcp selector .. about 10 minutes ..
[12:00] <mwe> kh4nh: /usr/X11R6/include/