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Flosofthey12:03
jeff_hey flo12:03
Flosoftwhy doesn't Amarok work anymore?12:03
FlosoftI can't install it anyomore since an update a few hours ago12:04
Flosoft(Dapper)12:04
jeff_flosoft:lol thats probably it12:04
Flosoftwell it should be fixed no?12:05
jeff_flosoft: yeah, but dapper stuff takes time12:05
Random_Transitcan anyone suggest a good binary-oriented Usenet client?12:06
swokeFlosoft: You should use the svn version, works without any trouble for me since 2 months...12:07
Flosoftwell I used the one from the deb repos of dapper12:08
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Flosoftbut after this update it uninstalled Amarok12:08
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jahHi12:12
_ravnhello12:12
Reflektionz98newbie to linux here, can anyone help me set up my pc to share an internet connection with a Windows PC using Kubuntu PC as the direct connection?12:12
jahCan anyone tell me how to get amarok playing mp3's via xine in dapper? (gstreamer0.10 would be fine, too, no artsd please)12:12
Flosoftwell install amarok-xine12:13
Flosoftthen go to the settings12:13
jahReflektionz98: I would go to a shop and buy a hub....12:13
jahFlosoft: Yes...12:13
Flosoftthere there is somewhere a setting12:14
jahit say "xine could not start an audio driver"12:14
Flosofthmm...12:14
Reflektionz98wounld, but I am getting my internet connection via Wan from my neighbor12:14
jahand no, I am not willing to give it exclusive acces to an alsa device... that's not what alsa is there for12:14
Reflektionz98i need to share it with windows PC12:15
jahYes, I know, but even if I shut down all audio apps, and start xine engine, It does not play my mp3's12:15
jahReflektionz98: You have something, where you plug you "inet-cable" in?12:15
Flosoftah ... look on the xne vfaq page12:16
Flosoftmaybe you need another package with codecs12:16
Reflektionz98I have a 1 wireless network card and 2 Ethernet cards12:16
jahFlosoft: That's what I thought, too. But I have no idea which...12:16
jahReflectionz98: no, the other end of the cable...12:17
Flosoftlook on the faq site ... afaik they describe it there12:17
jahFlosoft: already searching12:17
Reflektionz98when i had Windows XP on this PC it shared the connection perfectly12:17
Reflektionz98i'm not sure what you're asking jah12:19
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jahReflektionz98: I am trying to understand, what you have. So, you have 2 PC. One Windows, one Linux. You want to connect the Linux PC's ethernet-card to a DSL-modem. The windows PC shall connect to the linux PC'?12:21
Reflektionz98the modem and wireless router are at my neighbors house so i can't connect to them any way other than wireless12:21
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jahReflectionz98: So why use the Linux PC as gateway? Just get two wlan-usb.pci.or.whatever-antenna-carrier-things, one for eacxh pc, and connect via wireless twice...12:22
Reflektionz98internet connection is wireless, i have a cable to connect the 2 PC's here, yes one is Kubuntu and one is Windows12:22
jahWhy exactly you want to connect them?12:22
Reflektionz98no money to spend for that. I did it once with Ubuntu 5.04 but don't remember how12:23
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jahOkay, you only have one WLAN client hardware thing, right?12:23
Reflektionz98yes12:23
jahnow I got you I think...12:23
Reflektionz98k12:23
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jahbut you have 2 ethernet cards...?12:24
Reflektionz98yes, one in each PC12:24
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jahthe wireless client, which kind of hardware is it?12:24
Reflektionz98Kubuntu PC has wireless card and a ethernet card in it12:24
Reflektionz98Linksys WMP1112:25
jahalle 3 cards ordinary pci cards?12:25
Reflektionz98yes12:25
jahokay, I'll think about it now for some minutes...12:25
Reflektionz98ok12:25
Reflektionz98not sure how to share files either but that is a later subject12:26
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Red_Herringim very happy w/ the wlan support w/ dapper12:29
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jahReflektionz98: can you issue the command "apt-cache show dnsmasq" and tell me, if that is what you want?12:33
Reflektionz98one sec12:33
Reflektionz98if all that means the same as Internet sonnection Sharing than yes12:35
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Reflektionz98basically allow the windows PC to access the internet through my Kubuntu PC's connection12:37
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mastermindlessre12:38
jahwell... you kubuntu pc can provide services to you windows pc... that means, that your kubunt pc repeats everything you windows pc says, and returns the answers that it gets from you (or whoevers) internet-service-provider....12:40
jahdnsmasq claims to be a package that provides a dns server...12:40
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Reflektionz98i think you said what I need, as long as both PC have internet access than yes12:41
jahyou will have to add a route from the server (once you got it up) to the ethernet card. (give it an arbitrary ip adress... 192.168.1.1 would probably be possible)12:41
jah"man route" will be necessary12:42
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jahthen in windows, enter this ip as "DNS server adress"12:42
jahthat should work12:42
vortechi there, i just downloaded kubuntu and tried to install it, but it aborted on bootstrap and now i can't boot my windows anymore. it says "disk boot failure, insert system disk and press enter". i've been using kubuntu 5.10 amd64 on athlon xp 64 3000. what's happening?12:43
Reflektionz98what IP? THe IP of my Kubuntu PC12:43
jahvortec: you have the windows cd and a key? you see a GRUB menu?12:44
jahYou Kubuntu PC will probably have 2 IPs then.... One for each PCI card. (both may have a MAC, so you'll have to have two IP's in there then...12:45
vortecjah: yes, i got the windows cd. not seeing a grub menu. but what happened there?12:45
jahvortec: how did you partition?12:45
vorteci tried to install ubuntu on a free partition, so no problems there12:45
jahthe installation went fine?12:46
vortecno, it aborted on bootstrap12:46
jahwhat was the last thing, you did?12:46
vortec"installing main system" or something (duno what it was called in english)12:46
vortecso one step after the partitioning12:46
jahwhat was the last menu about, you could navigate in?12:48
_harmi just read something about botnets.. does know a place where i can get some good info or an IRC channel?12:48
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vortecjah: "partition free space automatically" after i chose the free partition12:49
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jahvortec: and you are sure you did not chose what you might refer to as "C:"12:50
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vortecjah: yes, pretty sure12:50
jahvortec: that is a good sign...12:51
vorteci've installed gentoo on several machines so i guess i figured out what' was happening there, but i'm not really sure about ubuntus install routine12:52
vortecor kubuntus in this case12:52
jahwell i know kubuntu, which should be the sam... this looks pretty much like standard debian....12:52
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jahthat's why I am asking...12:53
vortecjust want to know what the installer was trying to do at that moment12:53
jahyou had to confirm the formatting of you partitions, I assume....12:53
vortecyes, i forgot.12:53
vorteclooked fine to me12:53
jahso it was how many?12:53
vortecpartitions?12:54
jahyes12:54
vortec5, there are 3 ntfs partitions on that box12:54
vortecone partition that was ext3 and one swap12:54
vortecthe swap was about 212MB or something12:54
jahand you confirmed swap and etx3 (only) for formatting though...??12:55
vorteccorrect12:55
jahthen while installing base system, it told you stuf about debootstrap and hung up?12:55
jahwhat colors did you see?12:56
vortecnah once it installed until 55%, the second time it finished up to 100%, then hung up12:56
vortecred background and some ncurses message boxes12:56
vorteclike grey or something12:57
jahi miss some information. how often you tried to install grub?12:58
vortecis grub part of the main installation?12:58
vorteci tried installing the main system twice12:59
vortecbut both attempts ended up with the same error12:59
jahno, main installation does not touch mbr. at least not on debian12:59
jahvortec, I would retry, and enter the partitions manually...01:00
jahhow much space you have for linux alltogether?01:00
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vorteci'm downloading kubuntu for i386 instead of amd64 now01:00
vortec5 gigs01:00
jahvortec: what processor you have?01:01
jahand 5 gig???!??01:01
vortecamd xp 64 300001:01
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jahit is available as one CD-iso (700MB)01:01
vortecjah: just want to try kubuntu, not really use it01:01
darkhorizonhi all :o)01:01
vortecohh sorry01:01
vortec5 gigs for the partition afterall :)01:01
jahhttp://mirrors.uwa.edu.au/ubuntu-releases/kubuntu/5.10/kubuntu-5.10-install-amd64.iso01:02
jahoh sorry...01:02
jahdoh!01:02
jah5 gig is very less....01:02
vortecshould be enough?01:02
_harm5gigs is fine01:03
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vortecok just gimme a minute i going to try the i386 version01:03
jahso I would try using 3G for / (defaults,bootable), 1.5G for /home(defaults) and 512MB swap01:03
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to3is any 1 useing kubuntu athlon 64 with vmware in windows?01:04
_harmjah right now i have used 6GBs > 2 movies (700mb each) and some anime (500mb) and i think after install i used about 2GBs01:04
jahI have made good experiences with kubuntu amd64 and reiser for /01:04
temiQuick question, anyone know how to run google videos?01:04
_harmjah je bent zeker nederlands?01:04
_harmtemi i know how hold on01:05
temi:D01:05
jah_harm: sound reasonable01:06
_harmtemo click this link: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?highlight=%28restricted%29 and scroll down01:07
temithanks01:08
_harmjah if you want a small fully working OS check out puppy linux or DSL(damnsmalllinux) both are 50mb total size01:08
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Dannyis there anyway to install a package without using apt or other package programs?01:11
dipnlikDanny: sudo dpkg -i yourpackage.deb01:12
Dannywhere can I download the deb for this:01:13
Dannyhttp://hostap.epitest.fi/wpa_supplicant/01:13
visik7apt-get install wpasupplicant01:16
visik7enabling universe01:16
Dannyfound it01:17
DannyI have no internet01:17
Dannyhttp://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/w/wpasupplicant/wpasupplicant_0.4.5-0ubuntu1_i386.deb01:17
visik7correct01:17
visik7dpkg -i wpasupplicant....01:18
Dannyok thanks01:18
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theripperis it possible to install firestarter firewall on flight6?01:30
bimberi!info firestarter dapper01:31
ubotufirestarter: (gtk program for managing and observing your firewall), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 1.0.3-1.1ubuntu1 (dapper), Packaged size: 384 kB, Installed size: 1904 kB01:31
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bimberitheripper: enable universe and you can...01:32
bimberi!universe01:32
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource01:32
theripperok thanks ill try this01:33
bimberitheripper: yw :)01:35
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theripperim using kde ,, and i dont have that option to show hidden source , and i dont understand the other 2 links with the text files ,01:41
therippercan somone explain this plz?01:41
wicked_yesssssssssssssssssir01:42
visik7does breezy-backports be update for security ?01:42
wicked_!sources01:42
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource01:42
wicked_1-0 mtl!!! sorry guess ill leave and watch the game01:43
theripperi looked at it already , i still dont kn ow what to do01:43
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nukydoes anyone know if there is a sims game available for kubuntu? or something equibvalent01:45
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davebgimpForgive me is this is a silly question... I'm running Kubuntu 5.10 and just changed myt montitor from a CRT to Flatpanel. My flatpanel's "native resolution" according to the documentation is 1280x1024. I have an NVIDIA card installed and working. Does this mean I can run higher resolution than that and if so, how can I force that because KDE doesn't seem to present a GUI for changing resolution and I'm a bit nervous to mess with my xor01:58
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temihey anyone, im trying to get an update, its called mozilla-mplayer, i did everything they said, but it said it cant find it02:04
davebgimptemi: you checked the repos?02:05
Dasnipa`do apt-cache search mplayer and look for that one... i would do it myself and tell you but i have to do an update and my connection craps out on long downloads02:05
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davebgimpAny takers on my question? Beuhler....Beuhler... :)02:12
mbettelshi there, what is the package called for mplayer? apt-cache can't find it02:12
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patrixmplayer-k7  mplayer-686 etc02:13
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bimberimbettels: you'll need to have the multiverse repository enabled...02:15
bimberi!multiverse02:15
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource02:15
bimberimbettels: and universe for that matter :)02:15
mbettelsbimberi, how would i do that?02:16
bimberimbettels: see that link from ubotu above02:16
wicked_!mplayer02:16
ubotuI heard mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3106102:16
davebgimpmbettels: back up your sources first though :)02:17
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kameronwhat's the prefered method of upgrading kernels in ubuntu? i haven't done that yet.02:33
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m0mbergerhi, room03:06
m0mbergertrying to get xgl working on flight 6 here :(03:06
m0mbergerI followed the tutorial at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=15139103:07
m0mbergerone of the packages on the beerorkid server won't install03:07
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m0mbergeranyone know why?03:07
m0mbergeranybody? :P03:08
m0mbergerwaah03:09
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bimberi!xgl03:11
ubotuXGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/03:11
bimberim0mberger: hopefully something on the wiki ^^^^ will get you there :)03:12
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kevmanCan someone tell me where the K Menu config file is?03:15
m0mbergerthanks bimberi ;)03:16
m0mbergerthese apply to kubuntu as well?03:17
m0mbergerthey don't appear to :P03:17
bimberim0mberger: sorry, i don't know :/03:17
m0mberger'sok03:18
m0mbergerthanks for your help03:18
bimberi!find compiz dapper03:19
ubotuUbuntu Package Listing of 'compiz' (3 shown): compiz ;; compiz-gnome ;; compiz-kde.03:19
m0mbergerrofl03:19
bimberim0mberger: maybe try compiz-kde where it says compiz-gnome (if only you had waited :P )03:19
crimsunq03:20
crimsunerr, sorry.03:20
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pipegeekHi.  Does anyone here have any experience with kio_ipodslave?03:34
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pipegeekI'm trying to get ipodslave to work, but when I navigate to ipod:/ in konqueror, I get the unhelpful message "unable to create io-slave; klauncher said: Error loading 'kio_ipodslave'"03:37
pipegeekAnd no useful output to stdout or stderr03:37
pipegeekGoogling the error message resulted in 0 hits03:37
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docta_vanyone know why my screen is blanking after a few mins03:51
docta_vi tried setterm -blank 003:51
docta_vdoesn't seem to have helped03:51
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ToyMan2hmm.  anyone here good with wireless?04:31
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ToyManhi all04:41
ToyMananyone here good with wifi?04:41
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ToyManjust installed a new atheros card with the hi-gain antenna04:42
ToyManand I'm able to bring it up with ifup ath004:42
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ToyManbut how do i control which network it connects to?04:42
Massacrationhow tro install kde 3.5.2?04:42
ToyMankiwifimanager doesn't seem to know how to switch04:42
Massacrationgood eveing...04:43
Massacrationcan anybody help me with kde 3.5.204:43
Massacration?04:43
ToyManMassacration: do a google to find the repositories for 3.5.2, add them to your list and then just do an update04:43
starzendcan someone suggest an engine that will play mp3?04:43
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ToyManstarzend: xine or gstreamer04:44
ToyMani like xine a bit better for using with amarok04:44
starzendso do i, but xine wont ./configure04:44
ToyManyou're compiling?04:44
starzendthis is a freash install, and im new to kubuntu04:44
ToyManwhy>04:44
ToyManah04:44
ToyManjust bring up adept... is that what it's called?04:45
ToyManone sec04:45
Massacrationdo u know any rep?04:45
ToyManMassacration: look in the kubuntu website04:45
ToyManit04:45
ToyManit's listed there somewhere..04:45
ToyManstarzend: you don't have to compile hardly anything with kubuntu04:45
ToyManif you're using say amarok for playing mp3's04:46
starzendwell, thats nice to know :)04:46
starzendi intend to, yes04:46
ToyManlook in your system menu04:46
ToyManthe Adept prg04:46
starzendi just did, and xine is installed04:46
ToyManthat will list everything you can install binary04:46
starzendbut under the engine tab of the amorok config i dont have a xine option04:47
ToyMani actually like synaptic better than adept, it has more features04:47
starzendjust gstreamer or no engine04:47
Massacrationthanks04:47
ToyManstarzend: enter 'xine' in the quick filter04:48
ToyManyou'll see it there04:48
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ToyManxine engine for the amaroK audio player04:48
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ToyManso, is anyone using wireless with kubuntu?04:48
ToyMantrying to figure out how to switch networks04:49
ToyManstarzend: there's a command line interface for all of this... apt-get04:49
ToyManman apt-get04:49
pipegeekAnybody here with any knowledge of kio_ipodslave?04:50
starzendit seems everything is installed, but i just dont have the option of selecting xine in amaroK04:50
ToyManpipegeek: all I know is I couldn't get it to compile04:50
starzendhow could i test this?04:50
robotgeekToyMan: is this breezy?04:51
ToyManrobotgeek: yes04:51
robotgeekToyMan, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto04:51
ToyManstarzend: look in 'configure amarok'...04:51
ToyManrobotgeek: bless you04:51
ToyMani hate having to look this shit up ;-)04:52
starzendToyMan: then engine > sound system correct?04:52
ToyManyes04:52
starzendthere should be a dropdown for xine there?04:52
ToyManshould be04:52
starzendthe problem is there isnt..04:52
ToyManadept didn't complain when you installed it?04:53
starzendnot at all, and it appears to be installed correctly04:53
ToyManyou did 'commit changes' in adept?04:53
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ToyManyou could try 'sudo apt-get install amarok-xine'04:54
starzendi have a worrying feeling i didnt hit commit changes.04:55
starzendim currently experementing. thanks04:55
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tarmathis there a command or whatever that make a 'beep' sound that I could put in a bash script?05:06
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robotgeektarmath: man beep05:07
tarmathi tried that already, i dont have beep apparently05:08
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tarmathoh wait i only tried 'beep' and it said command not found, but I got the manual page...05:09
tarmathhrm, ow would I go about using it...05:10
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ToyMan2anything similar to netstumber in the linux world?05:22
robotgeekToyMan2: wasn't netstumbler written for linux first?05:23
ToyMan2robotgeek: just finding that out... ;-)05:23
ToyMan2kismet...05:26
kalenedraelkismet05:27
kalenedraelBeh.05:27
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_kennyis there any qt gui builder that generates python code ??05:29
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tarmathjust make the gui as would normally05:30
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tarmathand use pyuic on it...05:31
robotgeekor pyuic -x to execute05:34
robotgeekhttpdss: http://www.cs.usfca.edu/~afedosov/qttut/05:35
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httpdssthx !05:36
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BarbelosI updated to the k7 kernel, and it broke my nvidia driver. What's the best bet, should I apt-build the packages, or just use the installer?05:44
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ltR20what's better superkarama or the normal one?05:53
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tarmathsuperkaramba05:54
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GNU_Stylehi05:59
GNU_Styleim in kubuntu brezzy05:59
GNU_Style:)05:59
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stevenhello all06:07
stevenanyone know which C compiler kubuntu comes with?06:07
robotgeeksteven: sudo apt-get install build-essential06:07
stevenO.o06:07
stevenwhats the kubuntu default root password?06:08
robotgeeksteven: gcc, and rest06:08
robotgeekubotu: tell steven about sudo06:08
stevenrobotgeek: i did your sudo command but its asking me for password06:08
steventhe root password is different from mine06:08
stevenwhat is the defualt kubuntu root pw?06:09
robotgeeksteven: read the link please06:09
stevenk06:09
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atyshey robotgeek can i read it too??06:09
robotgeekricardo: please turn off public away06:09
stevenrobotgeek: lol its downloading gcc06:09
stevenrobotgeek: 1337 thanks06:10
stevendoes it   comee    wiith libraaaries?06:10
robotgeeksteven: i would guess so06:10
steventhank you very much06:10
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robotgeekricardo: get my message?06:12
ricardohey how can i do that?06:12
robotgeekricardo: what client?06:12
ricardokonversation06:12
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robotgeekricardo: okay, open server list, edit identity, in away, uncheck "show away messages"06:15
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ricardook06:17
ricardodone06:17
StarZenDthe amarok handbook says that it most likley hasnt detected the xine engine because it wasnt installed at the time it was compiled or kubuntu packages the libraries seperatly from amarok.06:17
mendredhas anybody made any packages for dvd+rw-tools 6.1?06:17
StarZenDwhat would you suggest?06:17
ricardoCan anoyone help me at system configuration? when i put the pass to some function it just doesnt go, it loads an back to the user mode06:19
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ricardoAnyone?????06:23
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robotgeekricardo: try kcontrol?06:24
robotgeekricardo: do you get a red window somewherE?06:24
mendredhttp://www.skydebanen.net/~peters/06:25
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soundmaster80has anyone heard of a fix yet for the booting problem in dapper?06:26
robotgeeksoundmaster80: what booting problem?06:28
ricardoYes, when installling the recommended driver. i looked at linuxprinting.org and there says that have a problem using the epson 670 usb, and should try the 760 driver, but it didnt work also06:28
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soundmaster80i'm sorry i looked away06:39
soundmaster80the .iso will not boot on some pc's06:40
soundmaster80a floppy boot manager can be used to get to the menu, however some are having trouble with it installing from there06:40
soundmaster80the kernel will apparantly begin to boot but nothing else06:41
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robotgeeksoundmaster80: hmm, know nothing about that one06:42
soundmaster80yeah, apparantly that's everywhere06:43
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soundmaster80looks as though a bunch are suffering from it and it doesn't seem like anyone is moving to fix it06:43
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treakathhey all06:44
robotgeeksoundmaster80: filed a bug?06:44
treakathhi06:44
robotgeekhey treakath06:45
treakathhow are you06:45
treakathhow are you?06:45
robotgeektreakath: do you have a support question that we can help you with. offtopic chat is in #kubuntu-offtopic06:45
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ricardothanxs for nothing gyus, very useful06:52
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Blaxtica lot of people here...  anyone active?07:08
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Blaxticeasy question...07:09
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m5mWhat download client do folks use?  I've used d4x in the past is there a better one out there?07:09
elijahlofgrenm5m: I actually normally use wget since it seems to work the best and easiest for me.07:12
elijahlofgrenBlaxtic: Ask away.07:12
Blaxticnew install of kubuntu - big d...  where do i go to get rid of the annoying ballons that pop up when i go to switch to a different window?07:14
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Blaxtici've looked around - but in system settings - maybe i missed it..07:14
elijahlofgrenBlaxtic: I that can be disabled. Looking up where now......07:16
Blaxtic(they normally don't bother me, but i've noticed it lately when using freenx - it slows it down quite drasticly, so i want to get rid of it.)07:16
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robotgeekBlaxtic: right click panel, and configure07:17
elijahlofgrenBlaxtic: The go to "Appearance"07:18
elijahlofgrenBlaxtic: Uncheck "Enable Icon mouseover effects"07:18
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elijahlofgrenBlaxtic: Or you can Right click on the K menu and choose: "Panel Menu" -> "Configure Panel"07:19
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bdmpwhat is the restart command?07:20
robotgeekbdmp: sudo reboot07:21
Blaxticwow - that did it.  you're awsome elijahlofgren - thx07:21
bdmpthanks07:21
elijahlofgrenBlaxtic: You're welcome. Glad I could help. :O)07:22
Blaxtici'm finally pause free with freenx...  next quest - to get them to include freenx with the final release for the big d. :-)07:23
elijahlofgrenBlaxtic: I've always thought freenx cost money (at least for the server?), does it?07:24
robotgeekelijahlofgren: nope07:24
Blaxticnope - that's NX... check out FreeNX07:24
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robotgeek!freenx07:25
ubotuwell, freenx is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX07:25
elijahlofgrenBlaxtic: Ok, thanks. I've been using "X -query hostname" for thin clients on my local LAN and think FreeNX may be better than that. (Sound?)07:26
BlaxticfreeNX is the best i've found so far.  as long as you keep the streaming mp3's to a minimum.  lol ;-)07:27
Blaxticseriously - it's pretty quick.07:27
elijahlofgrenBlaxtic: Are you using over the Internet or on a LAN?07:28
Blaxtici do both07:28
elijahlofgrenBlaxtic: ok, well I'll start looking into FreeNX now.07:28
Blaxtici'm on a laptop via wifi right now, but i use the windowz NX client from work over a slow internet connection - works just as well...07:29
elijahlofgrenBlaxtic: That sounds pretty cool. I've used a VNC client on Windows but it would randomly lose the connection (Windows 98).07:30
Blaxtici just can't stream my mp3's over the SSL/SSH connection over the internet as well.. hehheh...  but everything else works great...07:30
Blaxticyeah - same here... haven't had that problem with freeNX yet..07:30
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Blaxticgettin late here... thx 4 hlp again elijahlofgren. good luck with freeNX.07:34
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bdmpI got a big problem... it is explained at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=896446#post896446 Any suggestions?07:35
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robotgeekbdmp: rm -f .Xauthority ?07:37
bdmpI did the command and it just returned. I tried to log in but it is still looping.07:41
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travis_hello07:48
Hobbseehi travis_07:48
travis_is this chat only for kubuntu users?07:49
travis_has anyone tried vector linux?07:50
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travis_does konversation support voice?07:51
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travis_HObsee are you there?07:52
travis_i am not seeing anyone chatting?????07:52
elijahlofgrenmost people are probably asleep ;)07:53
elijahlofgrenlike I should be.07:53
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travis_i should be too07:53
travis_what is mitnick up to these days?07:54
bdmptravis_: have you used Kubuntu?07:54
travis_i am using kubuntu right now...07:54
bdmpI have never used vector linux but kubuntu is pretty easy to use07:54
bdmpcool07:55
travis_i have used linux for about 4 years and i amstill a newbie07:55
bdmptell me about it07:56
bdmpI have a problem maybe you could help me with07:56
elijahlofgrentravis_: I've not tried vector Linux but I've tried Mepis, PCLinuxOS, Ubuntu, Debian, Gentoo, and Red Hat (and probably more I'm forgetting) and I have found Kubuntu Dapper to be the best so far.07:56
bdmpI got a big problem... it is explained at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=896446#post896446 Any suggestions?07:56
bdmpditto07:57
Hobbseetravis_: if you use tab completion, you wont make errors in people's nicks...07:57
Hobbseehavent heard much about vector linux07:58
Hobbseebdmp: try sudo chown -R user.user /home/user07:59
Hobbseesubstituting user for your username...07:59
travis_have you tried other desktops???07:59
elijahlofgrenHobbsee: Shouldn't it be user:user? Or does user.user work too?07:59
travis_thanks Hobbsee07:59
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bdmpcan not access no such file or directory Hobbsee08:00
Hobbseeelijahlofgren: i've used user.user all the time - didnt know user:user worked08:00
Hobbseebdmp: even with /home/user - the user being replaced by your username?08:00
elijahlofgrenHobbsee: I've always use user:user and didn't know user.user worked. LOL08:00
Hobbseehehe!08:00
bdmpoh08:00
travis_i have to go to bed......guten nacht08:00
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bdmpdidn't see the dots08:00
bdmpoyasumi08:01
bdmpI'm back to the log in screen08:02
bdmpSo that is 3 user so i replace it 3 times right?08:05
bdmpI tried it with 2 dots and one08:05
bdmpneither worked08:05
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bdmpthey returned but I am still looping to the log in08:05
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filip04what package do i need in order to compile stuff?08:06
filip04-bash: make: command not found08:06
elijahlofgrenbdmp: Hmm... How much of a pain would a reinstall be? (Maybe reinstalling X or just KDE?)08:06
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elijahlofgrenfilip04: apt-get install build-essential08:06
filip04thankyoiu08:06
elijahlofgrenfilip04: you're welcome08:07
bdmpThat is what I am trying to avoid08:07
elijahlofgrenbdmp: maybe you could ask on the ubuntu-user mailing list. There might be people there that could help.08:07
bdmpelijahlofgren: I can't get into gnome or xfce so I think that it is not just kde08:08
elijahlofgrenbdmp: I've an idea, try creating a new user and see if logging it that that user works.08:08
bdmpwhat is the command for that?08:09
elijahlofgrenbdmp: It's useradd something. Not exactly sure. I can google it though.08:10
bdmpdo you know the x package name08:11
bdmpI am in synaptic08:11
elijahlofgrenbdmp: You mean for reinstalling x?08:11
bdmpyeah08:12
raphinkit's adduser08:13
elijahlofgrenHere maybe one of these:08:13
elijahlofgrenx-window-system-core - X Window System core components08:13
elijahlofgrenxserver-xorg - the X.Org X server08:13
elijahlofgrenxserver-xorg-core - X.Org X server -- core server08:13
raphinkwhat's the problem?08:14
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elijahlofgrenraphink's problem is explained here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=896446#post89644608:14
raphinkhmpf08:15
raphinklet me see08:15
elijahlofgrensorry08:15
elijahlofgrenI mean bdmp's problem.08:15
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raphinkare you sure everything is installed ?08:16
raphinkyou should try sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop first08:16
raphinkto get sure everything required for kubuntu is installed08:16
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bdmp_ok08:16
bdmp_I will try that08:16
raphinksince from what I understood it crashed while you were installing, right?08:16
bdmp_No08:17
raphinkah08:17
bdmp_Installing japanese iput and the power went out08:17
raphinkwhat then?08:17
raphinkah ok08:17
bdmp_I got a big problem... it is explained at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=896446#post896446 Any suggestions? raphink08:17
raphinkyes I saw that08:17
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raphinkI guess you had a fsck at next boot08:18
bdmp_what is that?08:18
raphinkdid you have a partition check when you rebooted?08:18
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bdmp_what do you mean checked08:19
raphinkscanning and repairing the disk08:19
raphinkwhen you booted after it crashed08:19
bdmp_I have one fat32 drive but no partition08:19
bdmp_not that I know of08:19
raphink???08:19
raphinkyou're on linux, aren't you?08:19
raphinko_O08:19
bdmp_I saw that people had a similar problem with fat32 partitions08:19
bdmp_yeah08:20
raphinkyou haven't installed kubuntu on a fat32 partition...08:20
raphinkdon't tell me you have08:20
raphinkbdmp_: are you logged on your kubuntu box right now?08:21
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bdmp_I got 2 drives one kubuntu and the other fat3208:22
koshwhy would kubuntu allow itself to be installed ona fat32 partition, that would be  MAJOR bug in the installer08:22
raphinkindeed kosh08:22
raphinkI'm trying to understand since bdmp_ pretends to ony have fat3208:22
raphinks/ony/only/08:23
raphinkso bdmp_ after you system crashed when the power went off, you had an integrity check of your partitions, right?08:23
raphink....08:24
raphinklike with percentages ... when it says it checks the partition cause it was not unmounted properly08:25
raphink...08:25
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raphinkhi Tm_T08:28
raphinkI saw you! ;)08:28
raphinkdon't you hide behind that virtual pillar !08:28
bdmp_I saw that people had a problem like this with fat32 partitions and I thought that was what you were talking about08:28
bdmp_of course not08:29
bdmp_so I said I have a fat32 drive not a partiion08:29
bdmp_yeah08:29
bdmp_should i do kubuntu desktop install08:29
bdmp_apt-get08:29
bdmp_naw08:29
bdmp_forget it08:29
raphinkno that won't change anything I'm afraid08:29
bdmp_misunderstanding08:29
bdmp_people who have a fat32 partition on their drive get looping log in problems08:29
bdmp_bdmp_>I got 2 drives one kubuntu and the other fat3208:29
raphinksorry seems I had a big big lag08:29
raphinkhmm08:29
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raphinkimo it has nothing to do with the fat32 partition08:30
raphinkbrb08:30
bdmp_no08:30
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bdmp_I don't know anything about that.08:31
raphinkIRC drives me nuts08:31
raphinkbdmp_: did you just install your box?08:32
bdmp_Is it something that I do or something that happens automatically?08:33
raphinkbdmp_: if you  had just installed your box a few days ago or so, then I'd say reinstalling is the best option08:33
raphinkfrom what I understand, this problem happened for no reason after a big crash08:33
raphinkthe partition may be damaged08:34
raphinkand you might have lost some data necessary to the system08:34
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koshI wonder what kind of crash could cause that problem08:34
raphinkI may be wrong but if you don't want to spend too much time on this, I'd say reinstall08:34
raphinkkosh: power off08:34
raphinkthe power went off suddenly08:34
koshraphink: that is what is strange I have been using this stuff for about 10 years and never seen that problem and I have had many sudden power losses08:35
koshraphink: even ext2 is good at repairing itself08:35
koshraphink: the only fs I have ever had problems with actually is reiserfs08:35
raphinkkosh: then you should guide bdmp_ in repairing his/her drive08:35
raphinkcause I've tried to ask about it08:35
raphinkand now i've got to go08:35
raphinkso i fyou want to monitor him/her using fsck08:36
raphinkgo on ;)08:36
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koshbdmp: are you still around? can you go to a console window on that box to run commands?08:37
koshbdmp: are you running breezy or dapper ubuntu?08:38
bdmp_If something like that happened I didn't do it. Should I do that?08:41
bdmp_If you are asking, "did I see the drive checking itself for integrity", I did not.08:41
bdmp_no08:41
bdmp_I have had it for about 8 months08:41
bdmp_maybe 508:41
bdmp_actually08:41
bdmp_with this install08:41
bdmp_it is breezy08:41
bdmp_Yeah, I don't wanna go through all that again08:41
bdmp_yeah08:41
bdmp_should I unmount the fat32 drive?08:41
bdmp_I can view files off the fat32 drive with the network08:41
bdmp_yeah08:41
bdmp_here is the problem08:41
bdmp_I got a big problem... it is explained at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=896446#post896446 Any suggestions?08:41
bdmp_I saw that people with fat32 partitions  had a similar problems and I have a 2nd drive that is mounted that is fat3208:41
koshI wonder why you are saying so much all at once08:41
bdmp_breezy08:41
bdmp_so now I am editiing fstab to take it out and restart and see if that works08:41
bdmp_raphink seems to think it is my drive that is messed I am not sure if he thinks it is the fat32 or the kubuntu one08:41
koshyou did not say anything for a very long time and all of a sudden you are sending a lot of stuff08:41
koshI would like to boot the box back up and if x does not start please drop to a command line and I can give you commands to type08:42
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bdmp_I was trying to catch you up to where we were when you came in08:43
koshah ok08:43
bdmp_Is the log in screen considered x?08:44
koshdo you have a graphical login screen?08:44
bdmp_yeah08:44
koshthen x is running08:44
bdmp_yeah08:44
koshhowever when you try to login to your user account it won't let you?08:44
bdmp_it will let me go in to failsafe08:45
koshokay but not kde?08:45
bdmp_but xfce gnome kde loop back to the pretty log in screen08:45
koshokay08:45
bdmp_I tried it with another user too but I got the same thing08:46
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koshis there any way that you can get the box running linux, try to login to kde and then hit ctrl-alt-f1 and login as your user and put the data in /var/log/kdm.log in the pastebin?08:46
bdmp_So I just edited the fat 32 drive out of fstab and restarted but I still have the same problem08:46
bdmp_I can use failsafe08:47
koshany errrors that are generated trying to login to to kde, gnome, etc will be written to that file08:47
bdmp_and even open progreams08:47
bdmp_ok08:47
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koshyeah but I need that problem written, if you go into failsafe I don't think the problem will be there anymore08:47
bdmp_oh i see08:47
koshyou could take that file and copy it to somewhere else though and then go into failsafe to run a program and upload it08:47
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koshI just want you to cop that file between when you try to login and fail and when you login through failsafe08:48
bdmp_ok08:48
bdmp_how do I copy it in the command line?08:49
bdmp_during the second part?08:49
koshcp /var/log/kdm.log  /tmp/kdm.log08:49
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koshand then you can go back to x by hitting alt-f708:49
koshand you can upload that file to the pastebin08:49
bdmp_no such file or directory /temp/kdm.log08:50
koshtmp not temp08:51
bdmp_ok08:52
niels_Hello, can one help me? i cannot load a module.. but the file is there08:53
niels_ocalhost kernel: [   57.401227]  dvb-ttpci: could not load firmware, file not found: dvb-ttpci-01.fw08:53
niels_localhost kernel: [   57.401231]  dvb-ttpci: usually this should be in /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware08:53
niels_root@unbun:/usr/lib/hotplug/firmware# ls -l08:53
niels_insgesamt 24008:53
niels_-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 238036 2005-10-16 20:41 dvb-ttpci-01.fw08:53
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bdmp_where am i uploading to kosh?08:53
koshhttp://kubuntu.pastebin.com08:53
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[nige] !firefox08:53
koshniels_: no idea about that sorry08:54
koshniels_: I don't have any devices that need firmware like that08:54
[nige] anyknow how to install firefox 1.0.5 under kubuntu08:54
[nige] ?08:54
epinephrinesudp apt-get install firefox ?08:54
Hobbseesudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox08:54
[nige] I downloaded the tar ball, unextracted it, but I dont things its locate in quite right08:54
[nige] ahh that would give you firefox earlier than 1.0.5 i believe08:55
Hobbseeno, that'd give you 1.0.708:55
Hobbseei think you want 1.508:55
epinephrineit gives me 1.5, but that's dapper :p08:55
Hobbsee!firefox1.508:55
ubotuYou can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion08:55
Hobbseeepinephrine: same here, i dont use it though08:55
[nige] i am going to have a loook08:55
epinephrinenah, konqueror is just prettier and more integrated08:55
[nige] thanks for that08:55
[nige] :)08:55
koshkonqueror also uses about 1/10th the memory and places a lot nicer with the rest of the system08:56
[nige] i am not a big fan of konqueror08:56
epinephrineI had to force myself to use it, but I like it now08:56
epinephrineit's just different to firefox08:57
koshI like it a lot and with 3.5 it actually has better css support then firefox does08:57
bdmp_does konqueror have extensions?08:57
koshthe javascript support is worse though in that bad javascript will crash it08:57
Hobbseeepinephrine: i use the mozilla binaries instead - they're faster!08:57
koshbdmp_: pretty much no08:57
epinephrineI compiled firefox from source back in my gentoo days08:58
epinephrinethey were fun times08:58
epinephrinein a weird kind of way08:58
koshbdmp_: some of the things that are extensions in firefox are built in and other things don't exist08:58
bdmp_i love the exensions08:58
koshhowever until firefox fixes how it manages memory I can't use it for regular usage08:58
epinephrinethe thing that put me off konq was lack of adblock, but they recently added that08:58
koshit just sucks down too much memory and kills the box08:58
bdmp_rikaichan changed my life08:59
kosha computer program changed your life?08:59
koshumm .....08:59
epinephrinekmymoney2 is sweet08:59
epinephrineif only those figures were higher.. ;(08:59
bdmp_ok I can't figure out how to copy the file to post in pastebin09:00
bdmp_I copied it with kate but firefox won't let me paste09:00
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bdmp_it is not carrying over from program to program09:00
koshhmm09:00
koshjusta sec let me look09:00
bdmp_i could email the file09:00
epinephrineI wish konq had a clear private data thing though09:01
epinephrineclear certain things on exit09:01
koshepinephrine: what do you mean a clear private data thing?09:01
epinephrinectrl+shift+del in firefox09:01
epinephrineI've no idea09:01
koshwhat private data in a webbrowser are you trying to clear?09:02
epinephrinethings like search boxes and site history09:02
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epinephrineis it built-in to konqueror?09:02
koshthat is part of kde not konqueror09:03
koshhowever it seems that the kubuntu control panel does not show it09:03
koshepinephrine: run kcontrol and look at security and privacy -> privacy09:03
bdmp_done09:03
epinephrinehm, can that be done automatically on exiting konq?09:04
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bdmp_kosh: "a computerprogram changed your life?" you said... I live in Japan and rikaichan makes it so I can get the reading of kanji I don't know instantly09:05
epinephrinethat's handy though, ta09:05
bdmp_Made it so I could read a news paper09:05
bdmp_handy09:05
bdmp_I would be screwed without it09:05
bdmp_translating09:05
bdmp_reading emails09:05
bdmp_everything09:06
bdmp_it is like a brain09:06
koshI would have no problems with newspapers anywhere in the world, I don't read them :)09:06
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bdmp_ok... how about reading the japanese kubuntu forums...09:06
bdmp_got cha09:06
koshbdmp_: from your failsafe console window can you just type startkde and hit enter and tell me what it does?09:07
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koshbdmp_: I read english, python, sql, c+ and a few others :)09:07
koshI don't know how to read other human languages and I don't plan to learn09:07
bdmp_oooh09:07
bdmp_looking good09:08
koshI just don't see anything in that log file you sent me that would explain why it would not log into kde09:08
bdmp_loading the window manager09:08
bdmp_it is go!09:08
koshso that worked, is everything running fine?09:08
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koshthat makes even less sense09:09
koshI wonder what I am missing09:09
bdmp_yeah09:09
klugezbdmp_: what did you do?09:09
bdmp_well i just shut the window and it all09:09
bdmp_ha09:09
bdmp_I got a big problem... it is explained at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=896446#post896446 Any suggestions?09:09
klugezi have broken kdm on two machines :/09:10
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bdmp_more like what did my roommate do when she plugged in her hair dryer09:10
bdmp_it is a log in issue09:10
bdmp_gnome and xfce don't work too09:10
klugezit seems to be a kdm problem09:10
koshwhat is strange though is that when you try to login to kde that is the program that it runs09:11
komputerhiiii09:11
klugezbecause right now i'm using gdm to start kde09:11
koshklugez: if kdm can get him to failsafe it should  be able to startkde also since we have just shown that startkde is working on its own09:11
klugezand it manages to do it fine09:11
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koshbdmp_: if you close that failsafe window all the rest of the stuff will close since that window owns all those programs, that is normal behavior09:12
bdmp_yeah09:12
bdmp_I know I was just being stupid09:12
koshbdmp_: could you try going back to the kdm login screen, putting in your login name, password and selecting kde as what you want to log into09:12
koshbdmp_: and then see what it does this time09:12
bdmp_no go09:12
bdmp_did it09:12
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koshjust now you did it?09:13
bdmp_when I was installing japanese input there was stuff to make it go on at start up. maybe that is causing the problem09:13
bdmp_I did it before you asked09:13
bdmp_i didn't work09:14
bdmp_do you want to see the japanese input pages i was using?09:14
koshguess it could be09:14
koshcan I read the pages in english?09:14
bdmp_yeah09:14
bdmp_they are in english09:15
koshokay lets see it then09:15
klugezat least it's not the problem here, since i have no special input methods or anything09:15
bdmp_well if you had the rikaichan extension you could read it in japanese too :)09:15
koshno I couldn't09:16
koshI don't read japanese in any form09:16
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burepethis is me bdmp09:17
burepehere is the page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JapaneseInputHowToInBreezy?highlight=%28japanese%2909:17
koshhmm none of those steps look like they should have screwed logging in up09:19
koshfrom the command prompt could you run sudo apt-get remove --purge uim-applet-gnome uim-xim uim-anthy uim-gtk2.009:19
koshand then try to login again to kde09:19
bdmp_on it09:20
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klugezok, here's something i found from /var/log/syslog09:25
klugezApr  7 10:23:16 feyn kdm_greet[6674] : Can't open default user face09:25
klugezApr  7 10:23:27 feyn kdm_greet[6674] : Internal error: memory corruption detected09:25
klugezbdmp_: any chance you have that there too?09:26
mendredis there any way to check/enable DMA for usb DVD drives?09:26
bdmp_kosh: it is not looping but I am in the grey xscreen but it has lines kinda09:27
bdmp_it is just stopped there09:27
bdmp_klugez can you get into failsafe?09:29
bdmp_can you do statkde?09:29
klugezi can use gdm to start kde09:29
klugezhaven't tried failsafe09:30
bdmp_so you can log in to gnome?09:30
koshklugez: he sent me his kdm.log file and he does not have that in it09:30
klugezkosh: me neither09:30
klugezthat's why i haven't found it until now09:30
klugezit appears only in /var/log/syslog09:30
klugezmy kdm.log contains nothing suspicious09:30
koshhmm09:30
klugezbdmp_: well, i don't have gnome :/ i just installed gdm to see if it works09:31
bdmp_I think we are having differnet problems , no?09:31
koshbdmp_: can you look in /var/log/syslog and look for anything interesting that happens around the same time as you tried to log in09:31
klugezand it did, i'm able to start kde09:31
koshhit ctrl-alt-f1 and you less /var/log/syslog09:31
koshklugez: you probably have something else corrupted, klugez do you have kdm removed right now?09:31
klugezno, but i've tried reinstalling it a couple of times09:32
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koshklugez: so is the kdm package actually installed right now?09:33
klugezit is09:33
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koshklugez: okay can you do sudo apt-get remove --purge kdm    and then sudo apt-get install kdm09:34
klugezi have09:34
koshklugez: and then try using kdm to login, make sure to put in your username, password and select kde from that menu it has09:34
koshklugez: did you purge it that part is important09:34
klugezyep09:34
klugezi know the difference between purge and ordinary removal09:35
bdmp_hmm now I can't log in to failsafe09:35
klugezactually i used aptitude but anyway i did purge and install it09:35
bdmp_from control alt f1 I get an error09:36
koshctrl-alt-f1 should drop you to the commandline09:36
koshand alt-f7 should send you back to the gui09:36
bdmp_startkde09:36
bdmp_xsetroot: unable to open display09:36
klugezbdmp_: that's most likely because you already have gui running09:37
klugezalt-f7 should get you there09:37
bdmp_yeah but I can't log in to failsafe so I can't get in to kde now09:37
klugezso you shut the gui down?09:38
klugezif you just did ctrl+alt+f1, it was left running09:38
koshif you hit alt-f7 do you get that x screen or something kind of grey screen?09:38
bdmp_I was in the log in screen09:39
bdmp_I chose failsafe09:39
bdmp_it looped09:39
bdmp_so i did cnt alt f109:39
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bdmp_and i did startked09:39
bdmp_kde09:39
koshthat won't work09:39
koshctrl-alt-f1 will give you the true console, ie no x so kde can't start and it knows that09:40
bdmp_now I am back to the log in but i can't get into failsage09:40
koshyou are at the graphical log in?09:40
bdmp_yeah09:40
koshand failsafe won't work anymore either?09:40
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bdmp_yeah09:40
koshI don't even know what could break failsafe09:40
koshfrom the x login screen can you select the option to login to console mode?09:42
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koshand then log in as your user and run sudo killall kdm09:42
koshthen sudo apt-get remove --purge kdm09:42
koshthen sudo apt-get install kdm09:42
koshthen sudo kdm09:43
bdmp_yeah09:43
bdmp_hold on09:43
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StarZenDwhat website dev tools are recomended for use with this distro?09:45
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koshStarZenD: define what you mean by website dev tools please09:46
StarZenDsomething along the lines of quantra09:47
koshyeah you can use quanta09:47
koshthat works fine09:47
StarZenDhow would you go about installing it?09:47
StarZenDi seem to be having problems compiling things or using apt-update09:47
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koshsudo apt-get install quanta09:48
bdmp_StarZenD: do you know adept?09:49
koshyou shouldn't be compiling this stuff anyways09:50
bdmp_kosh when i did sudo kdm I got the log in screen and got looped again09:52
koshwhat do you mean got looped? the login screen started up and then started up again or something?09:53
bdmp_I got the pretty log in screen, I logged in, then I got the pretty log in screen again.09:53
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bdmp_the exact same problem09:54
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koshcan you login to failsafe?09:55
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bdmp_i didn't try and when I installed kde I chose the gnome log in. thought it might fix things09:56
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bdmp_I logged in now with it and it says your $HOME/.dmrc has incorrect permissions and is being ignored09:57
koshhmm09:57
bdmp_it says is should be owned by user and have 66409:57
koshyou logged in with failsafe, gnome, kde etc?09:58
bdmp_I am trying to log in with gnowm and it looks like it is working09:58
bdmp_maybe that file is what is messing with kde09:58
koshyeah delete it09:58
bdmp_delete it09:59
koshit will get recreated and has nothing useful in it09:59
bdmp_looks like I am an ubuntu user09:59
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koshonce gnome loads up just open up the terminal window and type rm .dmrc09:59
koshand then logout and try and login to kde and see what happens10:00
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bdmp_earlier I was told to sudo chown user.user /home/user10:05
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Tm_TI'd say "mv .dmrc dmrc-temp10:05
Tm_T"10:05
bdmp_and I read in a forum about permissions on the home folder causing this loop problem so i did chmod 777 /home10:05
bdmp_I think that is what is causing the error10:06
Tm_Tnoo10:06
Tm_Tyou should never do that =)10:06
bdmp_ha10:06
koshTm_T: I already checked what .dmrc can hold, it just says what the default session is, that means when you login next it will be put back right anyways10:06
koshbdmp_: you did WHAT?10:06
koshbdmp_: umm god I don't even know how to fix that10:06
bdmp_oh10:06
koshthat could screw up a huge number of things10:07
bdmp_well i can log in to kde now10:07
Tm_Tindeed10:07
koshso the .dmrc file was screwing things up10:07
bdmp_no10:07
bdmp_I still have that error10:07
bdmp_the kde log in was the problem10:07
bdmp_I can log in with the gnome log in10:07
koshyou just said that you can log into kde now10:08
bdmp_yeah10:08
bdmp_that is because of the gnome log in not the file10:08
bdmp_i deleted the file and i sill got the error when loggin in this time10:08
koshokay but you where able to log out of gnome and log into kde?10:08
bdmp_yeah10:09
bdmp_so that problem is fixed10:09
kameronsudo apt-get install linux-image-2.6.15-30-386 tells me it's already the newest version, but uname -r shows that i'm running the -15-... upgrading kernels with dist-upgrade also doesn't work. anyone else have this problem? i'm running kubuntu dapper.10:09
bdmp_or avoided by not using the kde log in10:09
koshbdmp_: what do you mean avoided by not using the kde log in? I dont' get what you are talking about10:09
bdmp_when you had me install kde it asked me to use the gnome or kde log in10:10
bdmp_because I was having this problem I chose the gnome one10:10
koshbdmp_: can you tell me what whoami && ls -l .dmrc  that says if you run it on the console10:10
bdmp_now that I am using that I can log in10:10
koshuntil you break the gnome one also ;)10:10
bdmp_well10:11
mornfallbdmp_: i know it i know it! what do i win?10:11
bdmp_that may be but the chmod 777 /home10:11
bdmp_was to fix the problem. it wasn't what was causing it10:11
koshwe still have no clue what the problem is10:11
bdmp_mornfall: know what?10:12
koshcan you run that command I gave you though in the terminal window?10:12
koshmornfall: the problem is unlikely kdm itself, it got broken somehow and gdm works differently so it is not broken10:12
bdmp_no such file10:13
koshthat makes even less sense, you said to complained that the file did not have the right permissions but it would not do that if the file did not exist10:13
bdmp_where is the file?10:14
bdmp_home?10:14
koshwell if you just opened up a terminal file to your home dir and ran that command I gave it should work10:15
bdmp_I did10:15
bdmp_I am just making sure it is not there10:15
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mornfallbdmp_:         bdmp_ | #kubuntu     % StarZenD: do you know adept?10:16
StarZenDnot realy10:16
bdmp_it is a package manager10:16
StarZenDim having trouble updating from the universal repositorys10:16
bdmp_you can get any program from it10:17
bdmp_get your sources here10:17
bdmp_!source-o-matic10:17
ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic10:17
bdmp_what should I do about the home file permissions?10:20
koshI don't know of a good way to set them back10:20
koshI know how to fix them all manually since I know what they should be but that would take far too much time10:21
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koshI really heed to get some stuff done instead of spending more time helping people sorry10:21
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StarZenDokay, i have a source.list now, what am i ment to do with it?10:23
bdmp_if you save it adept will refrence it when you search for things in adept10:23
StarZenDwhere should i save it?10:23
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bdmp_where it is10:24
mornfalllalala10:25
StarZenD/etc/apt/souce.list ?10:25
bdmp_yeah10:25
bdmp_that is it10:25
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mindspin! tell me about automatix10:34
ubotumindspin: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/10:34
mindspin! automatix10:34
ubotuhmm... automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.10:34
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xDaSxHello all11:01
xDaSxi have a question: I can't get my network interface to not be greyed out an un-editable. How can I fix this11:02
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xDaSxno one to help eh?11:05
mindspinxDaSx: try kdesu kcontrol11:05
xDaSxin the terminal?11:05
mindspinyes11:05
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mindspinthen you should be able to edit your network configuration in admin mode11:06
xDaSxmindspin: I'll give it a go11:07
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xDaSxim getting errors: could not find the module kcm_knetworkconfmodule11:10
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xDaSx>??11:13
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pagey007kununto 611:15
pagey007mmmmm11:15
pagey007where is the multimedia support?11:16
pagey007wmv11:16
Tm_T!mp311:18
Glin|JolWinamp not Running11:18
ubotuI guess mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats11:18
Tm_Tpagey007: look from there11:18
pagey007ok11:18
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pagey007Note: WMV files encoded with DRM (Digital Rights Management) are not playable by the codecs.11:22
pagey007oh dear11:22
xDaSxgeez11:22
xDaSxnow i cant get the network to enable11:22
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mindspinxDaSx: sounds strange...11:27
mindspinare you on dapper?11:27
xDaSxbreezy11:27
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mindspinwhat do you get when you type sudo /etc/init.d/networking/restart in console11:28
mindspinoops11:29
mindspinwhat do you get when you type sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart in console11:29
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xDaSxReconfiguring network interfaces... [fail] 11:30
mindspinwhat do you get when you type  ifconfig  in console11:31
mindspinbtw is it wireless or wired lan ?11:31
mindspin!paste11:32
ubotuDon't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.11:32
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mindspinpaste the result in the pastebin, not here in the channel11:32
xDaSxwireless11:33
kuzmasterhow do i set firefox as my deafult browser?11:33
mindspinok then I'm not much help11:33
mindspin!wifi11:33
ubotufrom memory, wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto11:33
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mindspinhave a look there maybe it is helpful11:34
kuzmasterdose any one know hot to make firefox my deafult browser?11:34
kuzmaster???11:34
xDaSxok ill try to work through it11:34
mindspincontrol center kde filetype association iirc11:35
kuzmaster????11:35
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kuzmasteris that to me?11:35
mindspinyup sorry11:35
kuzmasterk11:35
kuzmasterumm... is system setting that same as controll center?11:36
mindspini guess so11:36
kuzmasterk11:36
kuzmasterthere not, i just found out11:37
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kuzmasteri used katapult to get into it11:37
mindspinI#m always using kcontrol11:38
kuzmasterdone, thanx11:40
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slow-motionhallo11:50
kuzmasterhey11:51
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sandraWhen I restarted my computer today it didn't boot, the error is (among others): Incompatible libdevmapper 1.01.03 (2005-06-13)(compat) and kernel driver. any ideas ?11:53
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CellarDoorhi folks12:00
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sandraDoes anybody know how is the device mapper module called ?12:06
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pagey007not impressed with lack of media support12:11
pagey007sad12:11
sandrahow do I downgrade a package to the last installed version ?12:12
Snake__pagey007: why?12:12
pagey007i have several wmv files not supported12:13
pagey007some are ,others..  mmmmm12:13
Snake__I presume you have w32codecs?12:13
pagey007yes12:13
Snake__Are they encrypted??12:14
SkrotFFSHi. Is there a way to change the resolution of my console display (from grub's menu.lst) and still keep the usplash? I don't mind if the usplash itself doesn't change resolution.12:14
pagey007not to my knowledge12:14
pagey007in dapper12:14
Snake__I dont understand why its not "compatiable"??12:14
pagey007I will sort it12:15
Snake__(Obviously it wouldn't be as compatiable as a native windows, as it is their propriety format)12:15
pagey007yes12:15
Snake__pagey007: what are you using to play it if you dont mind me asking12:16
pagey007kaffiene12:17
Snake__have you tryed mplayer?12:17
pagey007will do12:18
pagey007510 was the last installed12:18
pagey007can I install dapper from live cd?12:19
Snake__As of dapper flight 6, expresso seems to be working right12:19
Snake__But its still in testing, so if you find any bugs, or it fails, report them12:20
pagey007dapper flight 6 install from live cd?12:20
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xanax`hello12:50
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Kamping_Kaiserhi xanax`, hi apokryphos12:51
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apokryphoshey, how's it going?12:52
CinGood music player with a media library?12:53
apokryphos!players12:53
ubotu[players]  Audio/MP3 Players: amaroK, Banshee, Beep-media-player, JuK, Rhythmbox, XMMS ; Video players: Totem, Xine, Mplayer, VLC12:53
apokryphosCin: hi again =)12:54
Cinapokryphos: Hai.12:54
CinDid I ask in here last night? I totally forgot what was suggested.12:55
CinSuch weird names.12:55
Kamping_Kaiserxmm >*12:55
Kamping_Kaiserlol12:55
Snake__Cin: go with amarok ;)12:55
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Snake__Cin: if you have kubuntu you should already have it12:56
CinOoo this looks nice.12:56
CinYeah I just noticed.12:56
Snake__:)12:56
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CinAlways good when you get a good vibe from a new piece of software.12:57
Snake__Cin: and youll only like it more the more you use it12:58
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cctecxpoi01:02
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avuhi01:11
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avuwhat is the KDE equivalent to gnome-open called? I seem to remember something like 'ksmclient exec' but there is no file called ksmclient in kubuntu.01:13
danimoavu: kfmclient exec01:13
avudoh, thank you :)01:14
Tm_Tkfmclient01:14
Tm_Tbah, slow01:14
danimo:)01:14
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fuciI have a problem installing Kubuntu01:14
fuciWhen I'm on the main menu (when you boot and get to install or boot from hd) I select install01:15
fuciThen it gives error in which it says something about usb-ports01:16
fuciand doesn't do anything01:16
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apokryphosfuci: which ISO?01:16
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apokryphosand what is the error *exactly*?01:16
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fuciI can check it soon01:17
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fucidapper-dvd-1386.iso01:17
apokryphosfuci: which flight?01:17
fuci?01:17
apokryphosfuci: have you got a link to the download?01:18
fuciye01:18
fucihttp://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/ubuntu-cdimage/kubuntu/dvd/current/dapper-dvd-i386.iso01:18
apokryphosthere are many dapper ISOs made, considering it's the development version of ubuntu (not current stable)01:18
apokryphosfuci: bad idea to use that image :)01:18
fuci:(01:18
apokryphosthere is absolutely no guarantee that it would work -- that's just a daily (or weekly or so) build of the DVD from the repositories01:18
fuciOh darn.01:19
fuciI just DL'ed it from the europe server01:19
fuciCause I live in Finland01:19
apokryphosyou should've downloaded one of the flights (Ubuntu releases snapshots of development when it's reasonably stable)01:19
apokryphosas much as a development version can be01:19
fuciCan you give me an url?01:20
apokryphossure01:20
apokryphosfuci: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/dapper/flight-6/01:21
fuciThanks :)01:21
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fuciNow I just have to find an empty CD ;p01:22
apokryphosfuci: if you have blank CDs I recommend downloading the Live CD, and then using the installer from that01:22
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fucifound one01:23
RobboRatHey :)01:23
RobboRatLittle help?01:23
apokryphos!helpme01:23
ubotuIf you do not actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.01:23
apokryphos:)01:23
RobboRat:) Funny that....01:24
Kamping_Kaiserjlittle help *thinks of the matrix*01:24
Kamping_Kaiser"could do with a little help here"01:24
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RobboRatWell, pretty new to Linux, obviously so this may se a bit 'duh' to you guys, but here goes01:24
koshRobboRat: I thought of using my telepathic abilities to figure out your question but I would rather use it for other things soy ou need to ask01:24
RobboRatWen I try to use Kaffeine to play music files, I get an error teling me that ALSA is in use by 'default@01:25
Tm_T=)01:25
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Tm_Twhat? kaffeine? yuuuhh01:25
Kamping_KaiserRobboRat: there's very few 'duh' questions - everyone asks silly questions01:25
Tm_TKamping_Kaiser: like I just did01:25
Kamping_Kaiserlol. case in point ;)01:25
koshKamping_Kaiser: I disagree with that, I have had someone ask me why their computer would not work and the reason was it was not plugged in01:25
RobboRatLOL@Kosh01:26
Tm_Tkosh: so typical01:26
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RobboRat I'helped' someone at work with that exact problem....01:26
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koshthe point is that while there are no stupid questions and aweful lot of idiots ask questions :)01:27
Tm_TI have multiple times seen situation like "computer is on but monitor is just black, what's wrong?" "turn monitor on" "gee thanks!"01:27
fuciapokryphos, how do I do that? Start the live-CD and install it from there somehow?01:27
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RobboRatAnyway, I'm from the wonderful world of OS X, so having to deal with this stuff is a tad......weird....for me :)01:28
RobboRatRunning Kubuntu PPC on an old iMac DV01:28
RobboRatI read on the forums that it may be the gstreamer version which is at fault - how do I detrmine and fix?01:29
Tm_TRobboRat: use xine01:30
RobboRatk01:30
RobboRatHOw?01:30
Tm_Tdunno, I don't use Kaffeine ;)01:30
RobboRatYou use Amarok?01:30
RobboRatOr what?01:30
RobboRatI just got this installed last night :D01:31
Tm_TamaroK yes for music01:31
RobboRatHow do you use xine in Amarok then?01:31
apokryphosRobboRat: install amarok-xine and then select it from settings -> configure amarok -> engines01:32
Tm_Tapokryphos: young and fast ;)01:32
RobboRatk - through Synaptic or command-line? Is it in universe?01:33
apokryphosRobboRat: note that amarok-xine is only available from the "Universe" repository which isn't enabled on a default kubuntu install. To enable it, type /msg ubotu repositories01:33
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apokryphosRobboRat: if you're on Kubuntu you'll want to use Adept01:33
RobboRatk01:33
Tm_Tcli <301:33
RobboRatI enabled the universe rep yesterday (I think!)01:33
Tm_Tbut hey, I'm just an old fart, ignore ;)01:33
apokryphosRobboRat: cool, then just fire up adept and install =)01:34
apokryphosTm_T: I find that GUI package manager is better for beginners ;-)01:34
RobboRatI like cli too - OS X only becomes REALLY seful when you can use the Terminal01:34
Tm_Tapokryphos: that's my point01:34
koshgstreamer is darn buggy, from what I understand in the next version of kubuntu xine is going to be the default for all the kde stuff01:36
koshubuntu is going to be gstreamer default though01:36
RobboRatI hope so01:36
koshI use xine for all my stuff since gstreamer still only supports stereo sound01:37
dipnlikhi all. is there a kde clone to mac os' expose?01:37
RobboRatIsn't xine les resource-sapping too? n this computer, every littel helps!01:37
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apokryphosdipnlik: what does it do?01:37
RobboRatdip - Konspose01:37
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koshRobboRat: I care about xine vs gstreamer since I have a 7.1 speaker setup and xine works with that flawlessly01:37
dipnlikapokryphos: press a key, it rearranges the opened windows to fit the screen. kinda like a "zoom out" on your desktop01:38
apokryphoskompose01:38
dipnlikRobboRat: will take a look, thanks01:38
apokryphosit's in the repositories, too, IIRC01:38
apokryphos!info kompose01:38
ubotukompose: (full screen task manager for KDE), section universe/kde, is optional. Version: 0.5.1-2build1 (breezy), Packaged size: 72 kB, Installed size: 356 kB01:38
koshsudo apt-get install kompose01:38
dipnlikthank you all. i know the way to go, just needed the software name :P01:39
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RobboRatxine works like a charm :D Thanks :D01:41
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CinI get that a lot.01:44
RobboRatThese things are heavy.....01:44
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dipnlikjust discovered that my win key is not working in kubuntu :(01:47
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supaphilOk guys I'm a newbie with a problem (Big shock) I'm trying to get kubuntu installed i've tried both the breezy version and flight 6 of dapper and i have the same problem - I cant get the grub loader to install, please ask for details01:49
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agalavishi all01:51
agalavishas anyone here tried to install xubuntu from a kubuntu install?01:51
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agalavisi dried, bur i think there might be some uncampatibilities01:52
thoreauputicagalavis: should work OK - just install xubuntu-desktop01:52
RobboRatIs that the version tha uses XCFE?01:52
RobboRatWorked OK here, but I prefer KDE01:52
thoreauputic!info xubuntu-desktop01:52
ubotuxubuntu-desktop: (Xubuntu desktop system), section universe/misc, is optional. Version: 1.4 (breezy), Packaged size: 5 kB, Installed size: 32 kB01:52
thoreauputicyou need universe01:52
agalavisi don't know what happend but when i lig in xface the desktop won't show a thing01:53
thoreauputicagalavis: have you enabled the universe repository?01:53
agalavisi have universe enabled01:53
killianwhere do i find repositories?01:54
thoreauputicagalavis: xfce doesn't use desktop icons, if that's what you mean01:54
thoreauputic!tell killian about repos01:54
agalavisyes, but has bars01:54
agalavisin my user the bars wont appear01:54
agalavisi created a new user01:54
thoreauputicright - tasbar and panel or whatever they call it01:55
thoreauputic*taskbar01:55
agalavisbut in the new user thunar starts but the window hides01:55
agalavishides or dies, don't now for sure01:55
thoreauputicrun xfce4-panel01:55
agalavisbut if for you works ok then its something in my system01:56
thoreauputicfrom aterminal ( use the right click menu in xfce)01:56
agalavisthat is what i wanted to check01:56
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thoreauputiconce the panel is running, log out and save the session01:56
agalavisand anyone plays wesnoth?01:56
thoreauputicit should be there when you log back in01:57
agalavisi'll try thoreauputic01:57
RobboRatAck.01:57
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RobboRatCan't eject the cd now :/01:57
agalavisin facct i'll try right now01:57
agalavissee you in a moment01:57
RobboRatcli won't let me01:58
agalavisin wesnoth i have another problem, when i start it the screen goes black and i can't do anything01:59
agalavisnot kill the X server01:59
agalavisor change to a terminal01:59
agalavisor ctrl c or anything i can think about01:59
agalavisonly turn off the computer02:00
RobboRatNee to reboot I guess :/02:01
RobboRatLaters02:01
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grothesk_How do I set up my WIFI-interface that it will be upped during boot?02:08
agalavisnothing xface for my user won't work02:08
agalavisand with the dummy user some programs won't show up02:09
grothesk_I'm using the connection right now, but I keep having to reinstall it at every reboot... :-/02:09
agalavisnot even the terminal02:09
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noteventimegrothesk_: add auto WIFI_DEVICE in /etc/network/interfaces02:19
noteventimewhere WIFI_DEVICE id the nemr of the interface eg eth102:19
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morrownoteventime: and how do i make it hotplugable?02:27
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noteventimeI don't know, mine isn't02:28
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noteventimeI think02:28
noteventimeBot the way i did it earlyer anyway02:29
noteventimes/bot/not02:29
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KubuntestTesting Kubuntu64 here.  It detects and activates my ethernet card, but not my wifi card.  I see in system settings, Network, Wireless... but it says I have to press the "Administrator Mode" button and there is none.  I had this problem once before when I tried to test kubuntu.  How do I find the button when it does not display?02:46
KubuntestOh, I'm using the LiveCD02:48
HobbseeKubuntest: try maximising the window, if it's not already02:49
KubuntestI did try that also.02:49
KubuntestWhen I do that, it extends below the screen02:49
KubuntestSo, I tried to "Move" it... and that will not move it up... only down, left or right.02:49
Hobbseealt + click and drag02:49
dipnlikKubuntest: you can drag a window 'from anywhere' (not only from the title)02:50
dipnlikKubuntest: alt+drag the window02:50
Kubuntestyes, that does it.  thank you very much!02:50
Kubuntesti scribbled a note to myself this time02:50
Hobbseenot a problem :)02:50
Hobbseehehe02:50
Kubuntest=] 02:51
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Kubuntestand now where would I start trying to figure out why my ath0 wont activate?02:52
KubuntestIs there a starting point?02:52
vortechi there, i just kubuntu dapper drake (flight 6) and would like to know what the default login is02:52
vorteci did not have to enter any passwords while install02:52
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Hobbseevortec: you would have had one for your username?02:53
HobbseeKubuntest: ah...does it require ndiswrapper?02:53
Hobbseebetter still - what type of wireless card is it02:53
Hobbseeis it in this list?02:53
vortecHobbsee: sorry?02:53
Hobbsee!wireless02:53
ubotusomebody said wireless was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers02:53
KubuntestHobbsee: I'm not sure02:53
Kubuntestlet me see02:53
grothesk_noteventime: My interface is already in /etc/network/interfaces.02:53
Hobbseevortec: did you set a username at all, during the install, which had a password?02:54
vortecnope02:54
_jerhow can i fix the mp3 playing problem in amarok?02:54
vortecthere was no such prompt02:54
KubuntestDWL-650, I think.  I will verify, Hobbsee.02:54
Kubuntest52002:54
Kubuntestpardon me. DWL-65002:55
Kubuntestdamn02:55
Kubuntestheh02:55
mendred_jer: install the amarok-xine engine02:55
KubuntestDWL-52002:55
vortecno problem, i'm going to start the livecd and chroot to my linux installation02:55
Hobbseedefinetly damn02:55
_jerwhere can i get the amarok-xine engine?02:55
HobbseeKubuntest: then again, that was for 2 releases ago...so it may have changed by now02:56
KubuntestHmm, the document you linked to say it should work out of the box.02:56
KubuntestAh, I see.02:56
KubuntestI didnt' realize support fluctuated like that.02:56
Hobbseeyou'll be able to get it work...02:56
Hobbseehttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Device/DWL-520vE102:56
mendred_jer: use the adept installer02:57
Hobbsee!+info amarok-xine02:57
ubotuamarok-xine: (xine engine for the amaroK audio player), section universe/kde, is optional. Version: 2:1.3.1-0ubuntu4 (breezy), Packaged size: 46 kB, Installed size: 176 kB02:57
Hobbsee!tell _jer about multiverse02:57
Kubuntestwow, nice documentation.  thank you Hobbsee.02:57
Kubuntestlooks like I would just toy with those commands after an actual install and all should be Happyland02:58
Hobbseenot a problem02:58
Hobbseeyeah, that's the idea02:58
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mendredthe new version libmysqlclient15 breaks amarok 1.4 beta 202:59
KubuntestIn the future, I'll have to pay more attention to purchasing hardware from brands that go out of their way to support Linux.02:59
mendredi guess its a apackaging problem02:59
Hobbseemendred: it does.  i've got no idea why though02:59
Kubuntestthanks for the friendly help.02:59
dipnlikis it possible to hide toolviews in kate? i only use find in files and only eventually...03:02
_jermendred: i can't find amarok-xine in adept.??. sorry, newbie here.. =)03:02
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dipnlikor maybe is there another text-editor with syntax highlighting to replace kate?03:03
Hobbseekwrite03:03
Hobbseedipnlik: or kedit, whicih you'd need to install03:03
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vortechi again, in which groups a user must be to gain root access via 'suduo'?03:05
vortecsudo, even03:05
patrixdipnlik, kedit, nedit, gedit (?), vim, gvim, emacs, emacs-x11, and about a million others! ;)03:06
Somefilenamepatrix, I think he is talking about KDE applications.03:06
vortecdipnlik: scite and mcedit are my favourites03:06
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patrixSomefilename, maybe, I just like to barge in without reading the convo and answer someone ;)03:07
avuvortec: admin03:07
mendred_jer: close adept and open synaptic, u need to add the multiverse repository03:07
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mendred_jer: its a lot easier to do that in synaptic03:08
vortecavu: there is no such group03:08
avuvortec: maybe breezy does this different then. on dapper, it definately is admin. see /etc/sudoers03:08
avuvortec: no, on breezy it's admin, too03:09
vortecah ok, i was using /etc/group. what do i have to put in that file?03:09
vortecusername<tab>?03:09
Somefilenamevotec, In Breezy it's admin too.03:09
Somefilenamevortec*03:09
avuvortec: yeah, /etc/group is the file03:09
vorteci'm using dapper03:09
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vortec/etc/group does not have a group called admin03:10
vortecshall i create it?03:10
avuthen your install is broken03:10
avuit should have been created on install, adding the first user the installer creates03:10
vortecit probably is, it didnt prompt for user/pass on install03:10
dipnlikvortec: i know scite (cool!) and mcedit in cli (not so cool)03:11
vortecso shall i create the group?03:11
avuvortec: yeah03:11
avuvortec: check your sudoers, too, to be sure it has the right entry03:11
dipnlikpatrix: i can use vim, but i want something more KDE-ish03:11
vortecavu: yeah, what do i have to put in that file?03:11
avuvortec: %admin  ALL=(ALL) ALL03:12
dipnlikpatrix: best i got so far is kwrite with embedded vim component :P03:12
Somefilenamedipnlik, Use kwrite - it's the most KDE-ish ever.03:12
patrixdipnlik, maybe kubuntu has the KDE vim component, and then in the kcontrol somewhere you can tell it to yuse the vim component in your editors03:12
patrixwell there you go03:12
patrixyo udid it already03:12
patrixhaha03:12
dipnlikSomefilename: does kwrite has tabs? tried to open 2 files and it opened 2 separate windows03:12
Hobbseehmmm...i have a suspicious absense of sound...03:13
Somefilenamedipnlik, How many instaces of kwrite do you open to need tabs?!03:13
vortecavu: thanks it's working03:13
dipnlikpatrix: i was thinking of switching from vim to something 'simpler'... vim makes me think too much to use it03:13
avuvortec: what method did you use to install dapper?03:13
vortecavu: the first one, not OEM03:14
vortecshould i add any repositories so i can install mplayer/vlc/etc via apt-get?03:14
patrixdipnlik, haha I've been using vim for 10 years now, the thinkin is when I use other editors03:14
avuvortec: maybe this is a bug that should be reported03:14
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dipnlikSomefilename: sometimes i deal with more than one file at a time, they should be in tabs :)03:14
avuvortec: check launchpad for the issue03:14
user_Hi03:14
SomefilenameHey user_!03:15
user_are some germans in this channel???03:15
avuyes03:15
vortecyea03:15
dipnlikSomefilename: when i tried kate i thought it would have tabs like almost every kde program...03:15
user_Who is a german???03:15
avubut please refrain from speaking german in here anyway :)03:15
Somefilenamedipnlik, Kwrite, just like Kate, comes with embedded editor so you can use it with tabs in Konqueror.03:15
avuwell, I am, user_ :)03:16
grothesk_user_: I'm german.03:16
avuwhat the.. :)03:16
dipnlikSomefilename: you're telling me to use 'konqueror as text editor'? :)03:16
Somefilenamedipnlik, Konqueror + KWrite plugins.03:17
dipnlikSomefilename: weird idea but maybe it can work :)03:17
bhnauseer_: me too03:17
dipnlikSomefilename: konqi opens the files as read only, so no way...03:19
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avubhna: he's long gone, seems he just wanted some basic demographics, nothing else 8)03:19
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Somefilenamedipnlik, Hmmm, have you tried to open it as root?03:19
vortecso should i add any repositories so i can install mplayer/vlc/etc via apt-get?03:20
Somefilenamedipnlik, Maybe  you are trying to modify something only root has access too.03:20
avuvortec: see RestrictedFormats on the wiki03:20
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dipnlikSomefilename: no no, tried to open some .php and .css files in konqueror, best option was preview with embedded advanced text editor03:23
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Somefilenamedipnlik, Odd - do you run any old version of KDE?03:24
dipnlikSomefilename: 3.4.3, from kubuntu03:24
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dipnlikSomefilename: well, let's just forget about using konqueror as my text editor :P03:24
grothesk_? kaffeine does not Play Menues?03:25
Somefilenamedipnlik, Hmmm, it's pretty odd because it works good for me - are you sure you use the KWrite embedded editor?03:25
dipnlikSomefilename: hm, i don't have a kwrite embedded editor, just an advanced embedded editor03:25
Somefilenamedipnlik, Ok - as you wish.03:25
dipnlikfrom kate probably03:25
Somefilenamedipnlik, You need the KWrite advance editor. :)03:25
dipnlikSomefilename: thanks for the help anyway03:26
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bkjonesmornin' all.03:27
SomefilenameMornin' bkjones!03:27
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dipnlikSomefilename: i'll probably try to get a good font for kwrite + embedded vim, or use kate03:28
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Somefilenamedipnlik, Use what you want as long as you are ok with it.03:29
jeff_hey gangsters03:29
jeff_anybody ever compile from source here?03:30
SomefilenameHey jeff_!03:30
SomefilenameOfcourse, jeff_, we live from thgat.03:30
Somefilenamethat*03:30
jeff_lol03:30
jeff_what is the prefix for configure to find the kde headers?03:30
Hobbsee!kdeheaders03:30
ubotuHobbsee: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/03:30
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jeff_lol03:31
Somefilenamejeff_, See the konstruct readme.03:31
jeff_ok03:31
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SomefilenameI never compiled kdebase and kdelibs before.03:31
Hobbseei dont remember, and it's not being cooperative03:31
vortecavu: ok i read that, but as i am using dapper i dont think those are the right repositories for me?03:32
avuvortec: the basic information ("you need universe and multiverse") is as right for dapper as it was for breezy03:33
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Somefilenamevortec, Why do you use Dapper anyways? Isn't that in testings or so?03:33
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vortecSomefilename: i want xgl03:34
Somefilenamevortec, Ok.03:34
HobbseeSomefilename: yes, it's unstable03:34
jeff_somefilename: where can i find this konstruct readme?03:34
vortechmm, i enabled universe and multiverse but still cant find the vlc package03:34
Somefilenamejeff_, In the archive or at kde.org.03:35
vortecno libxine-extracodecs either03:35
jeff_its not in the archive03:35
jeff_somefilename:ill try kde.org03:35
Somefilenamejeff_, Check kde.org.03:35
jeff_lol03:35
jeff_somefilename:k, thansk03:36
grothesk_Having installed kernel 2.6.12-10 (Breezy), I have to manually switch to tty7 when loggin in. Any idea how to fix that?03:36
Hobbseeno libxine-extracodecs in breezy...03:37
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bluszczhi03:37
dipnlikis it possible to hide the scrollbar in kwrite?03:39
jeff_somefilename: is there something in the readme i should read, or should i install konstruct?03:40
vortecno akode-mpeg here either03:40
Somefilenamejeff_, Konstruct helps you download and compile KDE - that means that you don't need to know the prefix.03:41
Hobbseeor just install kde-devel03:41
Hobbseewhich is a metapackage of all the other development ones03:41
jeff_somefilename: ok03:41
Somefilenamejeff_, Have you tried the binaries - it's faster.03:41
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jeff_somefilename: im trying to install kmetabar off of kde-look03:42
jeff_hobbsee: i tried to get kde-devel but it wont let me03:43
Hobbseemore info?03:43
jeff_hobbsee: the teminal says i may have requested an impossible situation03:43
Hobbseepastebin all of what it says?03:43
jeff_ok, just a min03:44
bluszczwhy i've got only "End current session" when I click IN logout K menu?03:44
bluszczit should be turn off box and reboot also option03:45
bluszczhttp://www.kubuntu.org/docs/kquickguide/C/ch02s08.html - i've got only one option from here03:45
Hobbseebluszcz: system settings, user accounts, session manager03:45
Hobbseecheck that the second checkbox is ticked03:46
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jeff_hobbsee:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1167303:47
fuciHow can I install finnish keyboard layout?03:48
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Hobbseejeff_: what does it say when you try installing kdelibs4-dev?03:48
fuciThe Kubuntu installer gave me error when trying to install it at the setup process03:48
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bluszczHobbsee: it is checked already03:48
Hobbseebluszcz: hmmm ok03:49
Hobbseethat's weird03:49
bluszczHobbsee: no, it is not ok, i've got this problem on two kubuntu box03:49
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bluszczkdm_greet[8442] : Internal error: memory corruption detected03:51
_jerwhere can i find synaptic in kubuntu?03:51
Somefilename_jer, Synaptic is not for Kubuntu.03:51
Somefilename_jer, It's for Ubuntu - as far as I know.03:51
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jeff_hobbsee: it says the same thing03:52
fuciAnyone can help?03:52
avujeff_: kubuntu has adept instead. if you still want synaptic anyway, you can install it with sudo apt-get install synaptic03:52
Hobbseejeff_: which packages break then?03:52
jeff_hobbsee: kdelibs4c2, kdelibs-bin, libarts1-dev03:54
_jermendred told me : "close adept and open synaptic, u need to add the multiverse repository"03:54
Hobbseeand how does kdelibs4c2 break?03:54
Hobbseeare you on dapper or breezy, and which version of kde?03:54
mornfallfrown03:54
mornfallwho's mendred03:55
jeff_hobbsee:im on breezy, on kde 3.5 i think03:55
mornfallhmm, breezy03:55
Somefilenamejeff_, Do a kde-config --version.03:55
jeff_k03:55
mendredthat would be me03:55
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=== Somefilename is using KDE 3.4.3 - Kubuntu Breezy repository
jeff_kde 3.5.103:56
Somefilenamejeff_, Why do you want to compile KDE when you can upgrade it.03:56
Somefilenamejeff_, Check this out deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde352 breezy main03:57
Somefilenamejeff_, Use that in /etc/apt/sources.list03:57
jeff_somefilename: im trying to compile kmetabar, ok ill check that03:57
jeff_somefilename: copy what you typed?03:58
grothesk_Having installed kernel 2.6.12-10 (Breezy), I have to manually switch to tty7 when loggin in. Any idea how to fix that?03:58
Somefilenamejeff_, Copy "deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde352 breezy main" and add it in /etc/apt/sources.list03:58
mendredmornfall: asked him to use synaptic to add the multiverse repo cause he can just add it using the dialog03:58
Somefilenamejeff_, After that do an "sudo apt-get update".03:59
mornfallHobbsee?03:59
mornfallerr03:59
Hobbseemornfall: what?  huh?03:59
fuciHow can I get/install finnish keyboard layout_04:01
mendred_jer: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto04:01
mendredwhew04:02
mendredthat should do it04:02
Somefilenamefuci, Check Google for that.04:02
fuciI tried.04:02
Somefilenamefuci, Or try "aptitude" for that.04:02
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vortecwhere can i change the grub settings?04:03
mindspinfuci sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales ? maybe04:03
Somefilenamevortec, "whereis grub.conf".04:04
mendred_jer: one sec are u on dapper or breezy?04:04
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jeff_somefilename: is 'wheris' a terminal command?04:04
vortecSomefilename: thanks.. guess i'm going back to gentoo04:04
vorteckubuntu doesnt even wanna play mp3s for me04:04
fucimindspin: will try04:04
Somefilenamejeff_, Yeah.04:04
jeff_!w32codeca04:04
ubotuWish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, jeff_04:05
jeff_!w32codecs04:05
uboturumour has it, w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install04:05
bluszczso04:05
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mendred_jer: And my sincere apologies, i forgot that kubuntu would not have synaptic installed by default04:05
bluszczi've got this fscking problem:04:05
bluszczApr  7 16:03:10 localhost kdm[7584] : Cannot create control FiFo "/var/run/xdmctl/xdmctl-:0"04:05
bluszczApr  7 16:03:10 localhost kdm[7584] : mkdir "/var/run/xdmctl/dmctl-:0" failed; no control sockets will be available04:05
fucimindspin: how can I add locales?04:05
bluszczfuci: go read documentation04:05
mindspinsudo apt-get install locales04:06
RobboRatWhy does KDE insist that I'm runing on a laptop?04:06
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dipnlikRobboRat: in what sense?04:06
jeff_somefilename: ok, il added that repo, now im doing an upgrade04:06
RobboRatWhen I start up, it gives me a 'battery low' warning :/04:06
Somefilenamejeff_, You mean update.04:06
jeff_somefilename: no, i already did update04:07
jeff_somefilename: i added the repo and did an update already04:07
Somefilenamejeff_, Great, great - see if what you want is installing - if not try apt-get install.04:07
dipnlikRobboRat: buggy, it should inform you are connected to AC power :P04:07
jeff_somefilename: ok sool04:07
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RobboRatI'm on an iMac :/04:07
SomefilenameCool, RobboRat. :)04:07
RobboRatty04:08
SomefilenameRobbotRat, You are the first person I know to get Kubuntu on PPC. :)04:08
RobboRatIt's a decent machine, now that I swiped the RAM from my beige G3 to put in it :D04:08
fucimindspin: Thanks, working good now ^_^04:08
mindspinyw04:08
dipnlikSomefilename: i know a good story about linux on ppcs04:08
SomefilenameBeige G3? Ewww...04:08
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RobboRatReally? It was pretty painless - maybe because I made sure to run all the OS 9 upgrades/firmware updates04:09
Somefilenamedpnlik, Huh?04:09
jeff_somefilename: kdelibs4c2 is installing04:09
RobboRatHey, the beige is faster than the other iMac I have sat here :P04:09
SomefilenameOk, jeff_, soon you will have KDE 3.5.2. :)04:09
jeff_somefilename: wicked :)04:09
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dipnlikSomefilename: a guy bought an ibook, installed mac os x and yellow dog, but he booted into mac os just to see how it was04:09
SomefilenameRobboRat, No - I wanted to point out that I like the blue en blancs series. :)04:10
RobboRatI don't think the BondiMac will eben run on Fluxbox :/04:10
dipnlikSomefilename: as far as i know, he never booted yellow dog :)04:10
RobboRatThe B+W G3s are awesome macihnes04:10
Somefilenamedipnlik, Heh.04:10
RobboRatI've never even seen YDL04:10
AdvisHello04:10
RobboRatIs it any kop?04:10
RobboRatSFN - doesn't surprise me at all - OS X is damn sweet04:11
SomefilenameRobbotRat, To tell you the truth - I haven't ever, ever seen an PPC machine or an Mac in my life and you can't find any Macs in Romania(except Buacharest).04:11
bluszczkubuntu sucks04:11
SomefilenameI wanted to get one for my birthday.04:11
RobboRatRomania? Wow!04:11
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SomefilenameI was miffed to hear that there were no such things in Romania.04:12
RobboRatI have (at last count) 7 Macs in my house, all in varying states of repair :D04:12
RobboRatTwo each of iMac DV orange and iMac 233 Bondi, one of each works04:12
RobboRatOne beige G3, now not wrking as it has no RAM04:13
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mindspinseems like colours were important when it comes to macs04:13
RobboRatA G4 iBook, which rocks :)04:13
SomefilenameTrue, mindspin.04:13
RobboRat6 Macs, soory - can't count!04:14
avdshi, I need to access kubuntu packages, where can I find these? not in archive.ubuntu.com at least04:14
RobboRatOr spell :D04:14
mindspindoes the color have any influence in speed?04:14
RobboRatYes and nomindspin.04:14
avdsI mean, can someone just `cat /etc/apt/sources.list` for me04:14
SomefilenameRobboRat, You don't have to - you probably made my subconstient to comit suicide. :)04:14
Somefilenameavds, You want the comments too?04:15
avdsno04:15
RobboRatI only paid for one of the Macs - the iBook04:15
RobboRatAll the others were found or given to me04:15
SomefilenameNice, RobboRat.04:15
jeff_a white mac reflects light and stays cooler than a.. uh.. black mac04:15
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avdscat /etc/apt/sources.list | grep ^deb04:15
avdsSomefilename, cat /etc/apt/sources.list | grep ^deb04:16
Somefilenameavds, Sorry, can't do - I have my own locate mirrors.04:16
na7ei think i'm going to buy a mac this year04:16
RobboRatMindspin - The iMacs came in loads of colors. The only real ay to tell how fats it is is in the 'About This Mac' panel, but there are some general rules. Anything with Firewire is still usable :D04:16
Somefilenameavsd, I suggest you start your files from scratch - its no big deal.04:16
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avdscan someone else please tell me the mirror or official repository for Kubuntu?04:16
RobboRatna7e - buy a MacBook Pro if you can afford it. They are SO damn fast04:17
Hobbsee!tell avds about repos04:17
fuciHow to install .tar.gz files?04:17
mindspinI never wanted a mac neither ever will ;-)04:17
Hobbsee!tell fuci about compile04:17
RobboRatAny reason ms?04:17
mindspinno not rationally explainable04:17
na7eRobboRat, oh, i would never get any other, i develop in windows and that has been the reason i haven't gone mac04:17
visik7mindspin: we are in 204:17
RobboRatNow that Macs can dual-boot Windows, aren't you curious?04:17
=== Somefilename would turn to Mac if he could
mindspinall people I know who use macs are design orientated noobs04:17
na7eRobboRat, EXACTLY04:17
Somefilenamemindspin, Some people don't care about the design.04:18
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mindspinno offenc RobboRat04:18
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visik7RobboRat: windows ? who want windows ?04:18
Somefilenamemindspin, Take me for example - I am interested in the PPC assembly.04:18
RobboRatHeh04:18
na7eRobboRat, but really, i'd like to see a decent vm product for mac and then i'll most definitely make the switch04:18
mindspinI said it was not rational explainable04:18
monitor\whois larra04:18
avdsHobbsee, so Kubuntu uses the same repos as Ubuntu proper?04:18
mindspinand talked about people I know04:19
Hobbseeavds: yes04:19
mindspinneverwanted to generalize04:19
RobboRatI got my first Mac through utter frustration with Windows. OS 9 is just as bad as Win 95 though :D04:19
Somefilenameavds, Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE instead of Gnome ON THE CD.04:19
RobboRatOS X is damn cool though04:19
RobboRatMost peoplel I know with Macs are musicians, funnily enough04:19
SomefilenameRobboRat, No one ever said Mac OS 9 is good.04:20
RobboRatLOL@somefilename04:20
RobboRatAt the time, it was the lesser of the two evils04:20
SomefilenameRobboRat, Mac OS started being loved when X version was released.04:20
avdswell, nice and dandy, however I need  ijs_server_epsonepl and according to https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gs-esp/+bug/34647 it is only available in Kubuntu!04:20
UbugtuMalone bug 34647 in gs-esp "ijs_server_epsonepl not found" [Normal,Unconfirmed] 04:20
=== Somefilename remembers the Mac OS 1 - black and white
RobboRatI know - I worked with OS9 for about 2 years....most infuriating04:21
avdscould someone apt-cache search ijs_server_epsonepl for me?04:21
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RobboRatThe first Apple I ever came into contact with was an Apple II. That thing was SO cool04:21
SomefilenameRobboRat, I never worked with Mac OS 9 - I never touched or seen a real Mac - but I can say how bad is Mac OS 9 from the animations they make.04:21
avdspackages.ubuntu.com doesn't find it04:22
SomefilenameRobbotRat, I heard Mac OS 9 was used by the FBI for a 3D view of the crime scene04:22
RobboRatna7e - GNOME and KDE seem to be working towards a more Aqua/OSX feel, at least from my limitd Linux experience04:22
RobboRatNot heard that myself, but I don't disbelieve it :)04:22
na7eRobboRat, yeah, which is an improvement :)04:22
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SomefilenameKDE and Gnome go for the Aqua stile?! Since when?04:24
RobboRatna7e - I used to run dcgui-qt on my G4 iMac, which came with the CDE theme as default. Even the KDE theme felt like an ugly version of Windows O_O It was weird to see. It was X11 on Mac that made me tyr Linux for this littel fellow :)04:24
Somefilenamestyle*04:24
RobboRatsfn - The KDE desktop feels more like Aqua than WinXP, even though it still works a lot like Windows04:24
dipnlikkde is borrowing a lot of good ideas from other OSs. if OSX has good ideas, let's borrow then :)04:25
SomefilenameI don't agree, RobboRat.04:25
dipnliki like the mac os top menus, kompose, katapult04:25
RobboRatI totally agree dipnlik04:25
fuciHobbsee: I can't understand that :<04:25
SomefilenameRobbotRat, Just because people are making it look like Mac OS X that doesn't mean it goes in that direction.04:25
RobboRatHow do you get the top-menus dip? That's what I miss most :(04:25
Hobbseefuci: did you see the message ubotu sent you?04:26
fuciyep04:26
fuciI went to the url it gave04:26
RobboRatsfn - it makes it more comfortable for Mac-users at least. A lot of the newer stuff for KDE is ading OSX functionality, such as Kompose04:26
fuciI want to install firefox04:26
fuciIs there apt-get command for that?04:27
Somefilenamefuci, apt-get install mozilla-firefox04:27
Somefilenamefuci, Or simply apt-get install firefox.04:27
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SomefilenameRobboRat, I'd say it's going towards Windows - and it's doing it wrong.04:28
fuciSomefilename: thanks :)04:28
RobboRatWindows IS doing it wrong ;)04:28
dipnlikRobboRat: something in kcontrol, appearance / panel / desktop, can't remember04:28
dipnlikRobboRat: my machine is slow, will take a while to find the option again :P04:28
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RobboRatFFS, now I can't access my Settings....04:28
mhterreshi04:29
dipnlikRobboRat: found it. kcontrol, desktop, behavior04:29
RobboRatty dip :)04:29
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dipnlikRobboRat: you may want to take a look at baghira. http://baghira.sf.net/04:29
RobboRatdammit, it's broken. BRB - need to reboot, AGAIN! :/04:30
davyhi ppl04:30
avdscan someone who has Kubuntu flight 4 CD please confirm if it contains a package named epsoneplijs04:31
SomefilenameBrb.04:31
fuciSomefilename: where did it install it :D?04:31
fuciI cant find it04:31
Somefilenamefuci, Install what?04:32
fucifirefo04:32
fucii did that apt-get04:32
Somefilenamefuci, "whereis firefox" in console.04:32
fuciok04:32
Somefilenamefuci, Or simply type "firefox" in console.04:32
apokryphosavds: flight 4 is really dated 8)04:32
Somefilenamefuci, Check the paths for firefox executables.04:32
SomefilenameBrb now.04:32
fucithanks again :)04:33
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BarbelosHmmm.... What's the command again for when you need to fix a package messup? Something-something -f is all I remember. Thought it was apt-get -f, but that was wrong. Amnesia here04:34
apokryphosBarbelos: sudo apt-get -f install04:35
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jeff_somefilename: should i restart after the upgrade is done?04:38
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jeff_somefilename: will the configure find my kde headers when its done?04:39
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Somefilenamejeff_, It's recomended to reboot.04:39
jeff_somefilename: ok04:39
Somefilenamejeff_, Try to emerge that program now.04:39
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jeff_somefilename: emerge?04:40
Somefilenamejeff_, Emerge, download, install, eg.04:40
Somefilenameetc*04:40
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jeff_somefilename: lol ok, do you mean once the upgrade is done?04:40
Somefilenamejeff_, Yep.04:41
Somefilenamejeff_, The update.04:41
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jeff_somefilename: ok04:41
SomefilenameBrb.04:41
jeff_k04:42
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fuciMy firefox uses some extralarge bolded font? Can I change that?04:45
hellsinghi04:45
hellsingi've got a strange error : checking for KDE... configure: error:04:45
hellsingin the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.04:45
hellsingSo, check this please and use another prefix!04:45
SomefilenameOfcourse you can, fuci.04:45
hellsingany idea on what happen?04:45
jeff_lol04:45
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jeff_hellsing: ive been working on that same problem for the whole day04:45
jeff_hellsing: what are you compiling?04:46
hellsingarf04:46
hellsingand any result?04:46
jeff_yeah im geting there i think04:46
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hellsingit's make it on all compilation04:46
jeff_im trying to compile kmetabar04:46
avdsapokryphos, can you please check the CD you are using then04:46
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EmryDoes anyone know of either a midi-player that uses OSS or a way to set kmid to use oss?04:46
hellsingon moodin, xen , everithing it make it...04:47
SomefilenameWhy don't you people try to emerge things rather than compile this way you can let apt-get resolve the dependencies.04:47
FadedSunDoes kaffeine have a firefox/mozilla plugin like totem?04:47
apokryphosavds: I'm not using one, but you (and I) can both check whether flight 5 or 6 have it04:47
kicker888Hi! Guys, I need help! I installed J-Pilot... after I open and press the sync button,, I encounter this message...04:47
kicker888pi_bind error: /dev/pilot Too many levels of symbolic links04:47
kicker888Check your serial port and settings04:47
kicker888Exiting with status SYNC_ERROR_BIND04:47
kicker888Finished04:47
hellsingSomefilename and if you don't have *.deb?04:47
SomefilenameFadedSun, Yes it does.04:47
kicker888can somebody tell me how to fix this problem?04:47
apokryphosavds: flight 6 doesn't04:47
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kicker888Also, is thre a good sync program that integrates with Kontact? I am using Palm Treo 65004:48
fuciSomefilename: how ;p?04:48
FadedSunWhat is it called?04:49
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frank23kicker888: I don't know if it intergrates with kontact but there is a program called kpilot you can try04:50
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dipnlikkicker888: from what i read, you can sync your palm OS pda with kontact using kpilot. i just don't know how this is yet, my treo is coming next week and the other pdas i had i synced with jpilot04:51
kicker888frank23: I already tried the kpilot, but it doesnt integrate very well in kontact, and it messed up my treo 650, it deleted my contact list in treo, it copied the content of kontact.. but i did a full sync which kpilot updated the contacts, but kontact doesnt.04:52
frank23kicker888: ok... I never tried it04:53
kicker888When I sync again,it copied the contact list from kontact and deleted the one I recently modied. :(04:53
kicker888i guess jpilot is quite good, but just encounter error.. can you help me with it?04:53
kicker888pi_bind error: /dev/pilot Too many levels of symbolic links04:53
kicker888Check your serial port and settings04:53
kicker888Exiting with status SYNC_ERROR_BIND04:53
kicker888Finished04:53
kicker888thats the error i encounter04:53
frank23kicker888: I have no idea what to do about it though04:54
jeff_somefilename: ok, the upgrade is done. im trying the './configure' again04:54
frank23sorry04:54
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kicker888frank: okay. no problem :) thanks anyways :D04:54
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frank23jeff_: what are you trying to compile?04:57
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hellsingfrank23 anything will be ok04:58
hellsingif we don't have this error04:58
hellsingchecking for KDE... configure: error:04:58
hellsingin the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.04:58
hellsingSo, check this please and use another prefix!04:58
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frank23hellsing: install kde-devel04:59
hellsingok04:59
slow-motionre04:59
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hellsingchecking for KDE... configure: error:04:59
hellsingin the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.04:59
hellsingSo, check this please and use another prefix!04:59
TheNightRider``hello everyone :)05:00
hellsingdoesn't want...05:00
frank23hellsing: you have the kde-devel package installed?05:00
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TheNightRider``hey, dudes, i'd like to ask again about the 5.1 surround system05:00
hellsingno and it's not the error i wanted to post05:00
TheNightRider``it doesn't wanna work05:00
hellsingi can't instal kde-devel05:00
TheNightRider``allthough everything should be fine05:00
frank23hellsing: why not? do you have universe enabled?05:01
hellsingit say it would break paquage so it doesn't instal kde-devel05:01
TheNightRider``i guess noone knows, eh?05:01
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frank23hellsing: break what package? did you install packages from non ubuntu repositories?05:02
hellsingno05:02
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frank23hellsing: ok try to install kdebase-dev05:04
apokryphoskde-devel brings in all kde includes05:04
fuciis there apt-get for nvidia drivers?05:04
hellsingnormally yes05:05
Somefilenamefuci, Try aptitude for that.05:05
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frank23!tell fuci about nvidia05:05
TheNightRider``frank23, know anything about my prob?05:05
hellsingit's seems i've got to recent pakage so doesn't want to install05:05
frank23TheNightRider``: 5.1? uhhh....  try looking at the xine settings for the player you're using05:06
TheNightRider``well i am05:06
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TheNightRider``but the speaker layout is blank05:06
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TheNightRider``its set to 6ch in kmix05:06
hellsingTheNightRider`` and with alsamixer is everything configure?05:06
TheNightRider``alsamixer ?05:07
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hellsingtype alsamixer in konsole05:07
TheNightRider``k05:07
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frank23hellsing: what player? in kaffeine->xine engine parameters->audio  I can choose how many apeakers I have05:08
TheNightRider``hmm05:08
TheNightRider``im using amaroK05:08
frank23amarok-xine?05:08
TheNightRider``yeah05:09
SomefilenameTheNightRider``, Where did you get amarok-xine? I couldn't find it anywhere.05:09
TheNightRider``everything seems to be in order05:09
TheNightRider``well05:09
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hellsingfrank sometimes some channel are mute in alsa so if you're using alsa ...05:09
TheNightRider``it came with my kubuntu05:09
TheNightRider``:)05:09
Somefilename!amarok-xine05:09
ubotuBugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Somefilename05:09
frank23TheNightRider``: yeah I can choose 'speaker arrangement' in amarok too05:09
TheNightRider``well05:09
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TheNightRider``its blank with me05:09
TheNightRider``:/05:09
rotmanhi guys.. I'm wondering if there is a way to make my KDM start with the default KDE login, (with the list where you can select users) ?05:10
TheNightRider``rotman05:10
TheNightRider``whats KDM?05:10
elijahlofgrenrotman: I'll can help.05:10
rotmanKde Desktop Manager05:10
TheNightRider``oh05:11
Somefilenamerotman, System Settings > Login Manager.05:11
TheNightRider``yes thats what i was going to say :}05:11
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TheNightRider``hmm05:11
TheNightRider``kaffeine doesnt wanna play anything :/05:11
TheNightRider``it says it has no decoders05:11
SomefilenameTheNightRider`` , Make sure you have the right engines.05:12
elijahlofgrenrotman: First you need to disable the Kubuntu KDM them. Open /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc and find: "UseTheme=true" change it to "UseTheme=false".05:12
frank23TheNightRider``: do you have kaffeine-xine?05:12
TheNightRider``i dont think so05:12
TheNightRider``know anywhere i could get it?05:12
ejd3_TheNightRider``: I second xine or mplayer as the solution05:12
TheNightRider``hmm05:12
frank23TheNightRider``: install kaffeine-xine with adept05:12
TheNightRider``okay05:12
SomefilenameTheNightRider`` , Kaffeine-xine, Kaffeine-gstreamer.05:12
frank23TheNightRider``: then in kaffeine change the Engine to "kaffeine"05:13
frank23Hurray for xine by default in dapper!!!05:13
TheNightRider``okay05:13
TheNightRider``lol05:13
elijahlofgrenrotman: Then open System Settings > Login Manager and go to the "Users" tab and  under the "Users" section check "Show List"05:13
TheNightRider``comming changes05:14
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rotmanelijahlofgren: yah, that part I understood... I think my prob was the UseTheme bit...05:14
TheNightRider``hmm05:15
jeff_somefilename: the configure still cant find the kde headers :(05:16
TheNightRider``i cant change the engine05:16
Somefilenamejeff_, Hmmm...05:16
frank23TheNightRider``: Settings->Player Engine?05:16
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TheNightRider``oh05:16
TheNightRider``im blind05:16
TheNightRider``lol05:16
jeff_somefilename: i stall cant install kde-devel05:16
TheNightRider``initialising xine05:17
Somefilenamejeff_, I don't really know right now...05:17
rotmanelijahlofgren: yep, that was it... thx05:17
TheNightRider``and there we go05:17
TheNightRider``crashed05:17
frank23TheNightRider``: restart kaffeine before platying something05:17
TheNightRider``oh05:17
TheNightRider``lol05:17
jeff_somefilename:damnit05:17
elijahlofgrenrotman: You're welcome.05:17
frank23TheNightRider``: yeah kaffeine doesn't like the engine switch much ;)05:17
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TheNightRider``yeah, i see :D05:17
jeff_somefilename: cant i do something with --prefix?05:18
TheNightRider``nope05:18
TheNightRider``didnt work05:18
TheNightRider``uhm05:19
TheNightRider``do i need to restart after i've set it to 5.1?05:19
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fucifrank23: that doesn't work in kubuntu :<05:19
Somefilenamejeff_, Try Googeling for answers. I'm a little busy right now.05:19
frank23TheNightRider``: I don't know. I never actually tried 5.1 but I know some people made it work with xine05:19
fucithat nvidia driver guide05:19
jeff_somefilename: ok, thanks for getting me upgraded amn05:20
jeff_somefilename: lol05:20
TheNightRider``hmm05:20
TheNightRider``kosh adviced me very well a few days ago05:20
TheNightRider``but nothing happened05:20
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fucican someone help me install nvidia drivers?05:21
frank23fuci: use adept to install the nvidia-glx package05:23
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TheNightRider``any other suggestions?05:23
TheNightRider``or maybe another playre05:23
TheNightRider``player*05:24
fucifrank23: thanks :)05:24
frank23fuci: you need the nvidia-settings package as well05:24
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fuciOk.05:25
fuciand now i have to restart x?05:25
elijahlofgrenfuci: Also see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia05:25
frank23fuci: To enable the driver, run "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable".05:25
frank23fuci: then you restart X yeah.05:26
fuciok05:26
elijahlofgrenfuci: From the wiki: "05:26
elijahlofgren   2.05:26
elijahlofgren      Close all your applications, then press Ctrl-Alt-Backspace to restart the X server. If the logotype is gone and everything seems to work you are done.05:26
fuciok thanks :)05:26
fucitaneli@dsl-aur-feccf800-164:~$ sudo nvidia-glx-config enable05:27
fucisudo: nvidia-glx-config: command not found05:27
fuci:<05:27
fuciarfh05:27
elijahlofgrenfuci: Read and follow this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia05:28
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frank23fuci: did you actually install the package? click commit changes?05:28
fucii didnt05:28
fucijust noticed05:28
fucirestart ->05:29
bkjoneseep! 253 upgradeable packages on my dapper box. Guess I've been negligent.05:29
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fuciworking! :)05:30
fucithanks05:30
fuciatleast i think so ;)05:30
elijahlofgrenbkjones: Yeah, I find it amazing how often they update dapper packages.05:30
TheNightRider``eh,05:30
TheNightRider``anyone know about ati drivers?05:30
TheNightRider``i cant find anything with adept :/05:30
frank23!ati05:31
ubotu[ati]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=42358905:31
TheNightRider``thank you ^^05:31
fucihmph05:32
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fucinow it says when i went to adept to check if the things were installed05:32
fuciit says nvidia-settings wasnt05:32
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fucibut i did install it ;(05:32
elijahlofgrenfuci: I find synaptic much better than Adept.05:33
DeeZiDm205:33
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fuciok05:36
fuciok05:36
fucisomething went wrong >D05:36
frank23elijahlofgren: yeah me too. adept in dapper has improved though05:36
frank23fuci: what?05:36
fucii cant get to kde05:36
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fuciit starts to the blue kubuntu screen05:36
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fuciim now on alt+f1 desk05:37
frank23fuci: in irssi?05:37
fucijep05:37
frank23fuci: you did sudo nvidia-glx-config enable right?05:37
fuciarfh05:37
fuci:D05:37
fuciforgot :(05:37
frank23fuci: well then the driver wasnt changed yet05:38
frank23fuci: are you sure your kde problem is related to nvidia05:38
fucii think so yes05:38
fucibut im not sure05:38
fuciit happened after i installed nvidia-settings05:39
fuciand didnt do that enable thing05:39
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fucihmm05:39
fucii did run that command before though05:39
frank23fuci: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart   to restart X when youre ready05:39
fuciok05:40
frank23fuci: the blue kubuntu screen... you mean the one when you boot?05:41
fuciyes05:41
frank23fuci: ok. yes thats probably a video driver problem05:41
frank23fuci: did you try again after enable05:41
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fuciyes05:42
fuciat first i installed nvidia-glx05:42
frank23fuci: doesnt work?05:42
fuciand nvidia-settings05:42
fuciit worked and i got back to kde05:42
fucithen i went to see if it actually did install those05:42
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fuciand it said <not installed> next to nvidia-settings05:43
fuciso i downloaded it again05:43
fuciand ctrl alt backspace05:43
fuciand now im here :<05:43
frank23fuci: to revert to the old driver:    sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf  and edit  in Section "Device",  Driver          "nvidia" to "nv"05:44
therippercan somone help install bittorrent plz?05:44
fucifrank23: ok05:44
fucican i do that on alt + f2 desktop?05:44
frank23fuci: yes05:44
fuciok05:44
fuciok done that, how do i save it?05:45
frank23fuci: ctrl-o05:47
frank23fuci: the ctrl-x05:47
fuciok05:47
fucidone05:47
frank23fuci: then restart kdm05:47
fucictrl alt backspace?05:48
frank23fuci: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart   to restart X when youre ready05:48
fucioh ok05:48
iradHow do i close my kde session via terminal?05:48
frank23fuci: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart   to restart X when youre ready05:49
EmryDoes anyone know of a midi player that uses OSS?  ^^;; All the ones I found use ALSA.  Will ALSA and OSS work together?05:49
frank23irad sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop05:49
frank23irad: only the session or all X?05:49
iradno, i don't mean the kdm05:49
iradjust the session05:49
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fuci_ok cool05:49
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fuci_it works05:49
frank23irad: not sure...05:49
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fuci_this is nice, i've never got so much help before :D05:50
iradand all the x?05:50
robotgeek!x05:50
ubotusomebody said x was a portable, network-transparent window system.05:50
frank23fuci: you're back. ok well, You might have to look around for your specific problem. maybe it's a configuration thing in xorg.conf05:50
irad!close x05:50
ubotuHuh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, irad05:50
frank23irad sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop     closes X05:51
frank23fuci: at least now you should now how to survive X not wanting to start05:51
fuci_yes05:52
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therippercan someone help me install the official bittorrent client ?05:54
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fuci_brb05:58
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fuci_just noticed06:00
fuci_i cant install both nvidia-glx and nvidia-settings06:00
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frank23fuci: are in dapper?06:02
fuci_mm.. frank23 how did the enable thing go ;p?06:02
fuci_yes06:02
frank23oh06:02
fuci_darn, i should've told you that :<06:02
frank23yeah you don't need nvidia-settings then I think06:02
fuci_ok06:02
fuci_but i installed -glx06:03
fuci_but forgot how to enable it ;p06:03
frank23fuci: nvidia-glx-config enable     what it does is change the Driver from  nv to nvidia in xorg.conf06:03
frank23sudo*06:03
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frank23fuci: hope you get it to work. I got to go.06:05
fuci_wait a mintue06:05
frank23fuci: remember dapper is still in development. maybe there is a problem with your card or something06:05
fuci_Error: your X configuration has been altered.06:06
fuci_This script cannot proceed automatically. If you believe that this06:06
fuci_not correct, you can update the md5sum entry executing the following06:06
fuci_command:06:06
fuci_md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf | sudo tee /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum06:06
fuci_otherwise edit manually /etc/X11/xorg.conf to change the Driver section06:06
fuci_from nv to nvidia.06:06
fuci_sorry for the flood :(06:06
fuci_but when i try to manually (go to /etc/x11/ and open the file and change nv -> nvidia it doesnt allow me to save it06:06
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frank23fuci_: oh. this happened because we edited xorg.conf manually06:07
patrixfuci, make sure you have admin privileges whehn opening the file (eg  sudo kate xorg.conf )06:07
fuci_ok06:07
frank23fuci_: you need to open xorg.conf with root rights:   kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf     not sudo!06:07
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patrixthey do the same thing06:08
patrixone has a nice little window to enter the password06:08
patrixthe other asks you in the terminal06:08
frank23fuci_: sudo kate will make kate crash  and you'll have to kill kate to make it work again06:08
fuci_yeh, i did it with kdesu06:08
fuci_cause you've helped me so much :)06:08
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frank23patrix: sudo works for gnome apps but not at all for kde apps (well it works for kcontrol)06:08
fuci_ok, now it saved it06:09
patrixfrank23, I have neve rhad trouble with sudo and KDE apps though. I don't use it that much (usually I sudo vim ;)  ) so I might not have encountered the issue06:09
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fuci_so i restart X06:09
fuci_?06:09
frank23patrix: hmmm.... maybe the sudo kate problem was a bug that was fixed.06:10
patrixmaybe06:10
patrixI can't remember if I ever did it in Breezy06:10
patrixI'm glad someone finally explained to me why it's wrong to tell ppl here to use sudo kate instead of kdesu ;)06:10
frank23patrix: I know I helped people kill kate manually to recover from it though06:10
patrixnooow if I could just figure out why kdm wont' let me login anymore, while gdm still works06:11
noutramDoes anyone know all the packages needed to develop KDE applications (using kdevelop) in C++? (Installing kdevelop alone is clearly not enough)06:12
frank23noutram: kde-devel    depends on pretty much everything AFAIK06:12
patrixnoutram, kde-dev (or kde-devel ? ) or something like that06:12
fuci_frank23: i can now restart my X?06:12
noutramcheers - I'll take a look06:12
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frank23fuci_: what did you change? in xorg.conf06:13
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fuci_"nv" to "nvidia"06:13
fuci_under "device"06:13
frank23fuci_: you can try but it will probably do the same thing as before06:13
fuci_well i try06:13
frank23fuci_: then you will have to change it again with nano06:14
fuci_can you paste the command06:14
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fuci_i write it down06:14
fuci_my memory isn't so good06:14
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frank23just remember the location of xorg.conf:   /etc/X11/xorg.conf        so:   sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf06:15
fuci_thanks :)06:15
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fuci_and the command to restart X06:16
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fuci_blaah06:18
fuci_i figure it out somehow06:18
fuci_->06:18
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fuci_it worked06:18
fuci_good06:18
Dasnipa`if (name.gettype() == "rose" && name != "rose"){ return bool (abs(getsmell(rose) - getsmell(name))); }06:19
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fuci_I wonder if those drivers work o.O06:21
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fuci_still acts kinda slow when minimizing and maximizing irssi (for example)06:22
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frank23fuci_: to see if 3d is working:    glxinfo | grep direct     if you get direct rendering: yes it works06:27
fuci_taneli@dsl-aur-feccf800-164:~$ glxinfo | grep direct06:27
fuci_direct rendering: Yes06:27
fuci_\o/06:27
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fuci_well how can it be that if im selecting blank space on my desktop it gets _really_ slow06:28
frank23fuci_: that's a kde bug I think06:29
frank23It's fixed in dapper06:29
fuci_but i have dapper :(06:29
TheNightRider``frank23, whats dapper?06:29
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frank23fuci_: well I think it's a bug anyways06:29
frank23!dapper06:29
ubotuDapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)06:29
fuci_can you help me install stepmania?06:30
fuci_:D06:30
TheNightRider``what kind of package is it?06:30
frank23fuci_: check the forums. I think pydance is a but like it. in the repositories06:31
fuci_.tar.gz206:31
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fuci_-206:31
fuci_.tar.gz06:31
TheNightRider``just extract it somewhere06:32
TheNightRider``and run the install06:32
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fuci_how do i know which file is the install file06:33
FadedSunIs there an easy way to make clicked on links in for example Konversation to open in firefox and not Konqueror?06:34
TheNightRider``yeah06:35
TheNightRider``check the firefox options06:35
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TheNightRider``and make it the default browser06:35
TheNightRider``i dont remember how it was06:36
fuci_TheNightRider``: how do i know which file is the install file06:36
fuci_readme.txt only gives directions for windows install06:36
TheNightRider``well06:37
TheNightRider``is it a windows application?06:37
TheNightRider``.exe?06:37
fuci_maybe06:37
fuci_i downloaded the linux version though06:37
fuci_from www.stepmania.com06:37
TheNightRider``well06:38
TheNightRider``what are the files06:38
TheNightRider``it should have install in its name06:38
ash211iirc, stepmania comes in a compressed tarball06:38
fuci_theres no such thing in there06:38
fuci_named 'install'06:38
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TheNightRider``what about an sh file?06:39
TheNightRider``or a so file06:39
fuci_.so file06:39
fuci_yes06:39
TheNightRider``whats the name?06:39
fuci_GtkModule.so06:39
TheNightRider``hmm06:39
TheNightRider``wait ill check it out06:39
fuci_ok06:40
ash211there's also a file named 'stepmania' in there w/o an extension06:40
ash211just run that, and it worked for me06:40
fuci_doesn't do anything for me06:40
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ash211run it from the command line and see if it gives you any errors06:42
fuci_how?06:42
ash211type './stepmania' inside the folder you extracted it to06:42
fuci_ok06:42
ash211press alt+f2 and type konsole06:43
fuci_taneli@dsl-aur-feccf800-164:~/StepMania-3.9-linux/StepMania-3.9$ /stepmania06:43
fuci_bash: /stepmania: No such file or directory06:43
ash211don't forget that tiny dot06:43
ash211./stepmania06:43
fuci_taneli@dsl-aur-feccf800-164:~/StepMania-3.9-linux/StepMania-3.9$ ./stepmania06:44
fuci_./stepmania: error while loading shared libraries: libmad.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory06:44
fuci_i'm missing something06:44
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ash211yep06:44
ash211google to see what you need to install with adept/synaptic to fix that06:44
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ash211what you need to install is libmad006:47
ash211try that, then see if stepmania works06:48
fuci_ok06:48
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fuci_do i have to boot for it to take effect?06:49
ash211no06:50
ash211you should pretty much never have to reboot in linux06:50
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fuci_cool06:50
fuci_well doesn't work06:50
ash211error message?06:50
fuci_yeh06:50
fuci_more libaries06:50
TheNightRider``ya06:51
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fuci_libSDL-1.2.so.0:06:51
TheNightRider``whats with all the libraries??06:51
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ash211a library is some bits of code the program needs to run.  stepmania didn't include all of them already, because that would make the download way too big06:51
ash211usually your distribution (kubuntu) will either pre-install them or make them easy to install06:52
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fuci_i cant find libSDL-1.2.so.0:07:00
fuci_libsdl gives something that has something to do with debian07:00
fuci_in the adept07:00
ash211i'm working on finding which package to install from adept07:00
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ash211try installing libsdl1.2debian07:01
ash211that's one of that huge list of libsdl packages i have installed07:02
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fuci_ok07:03
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ash211looking here: http://www.stepmania.com/wiki/FAQ:_Linux_version ;  it seems you might only need the sdl image07:05
ash211that would be libsdl-image1.207:05
ash211how's it coming?07:05
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jeff_those people on #ubuntu suck07:06
jeff_does anybody know where the gdm logon screens are kept?07:06
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crimsun/usr/share/gdm/themes07:07
jeff_crimsun: ok, thanks man07:07
fuci_ash211: was watching the sipmsons07:08
fuci_took a little break ;p07:08
ash211heh heh07:08
fuci_libstdc++.so.5:07:09
fuci_lol07:10
fuci_more libaries needed :D07:10
ash211install libstdc++507:11
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fuci_it prompts me for "kubuntu6.06_dapper_drake_alpha" cd07:12
bipolaris anyone using dual screens in dapper?07:12
ash211are you running dapper, fuci_ ?07:12
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fuci_maybe07:13
fuci_yes07:13
fuci_i downloaded dapper .iso from a link that someone gave me earlier today07:13
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ash211well, here's how to not get that cd prompt07:14
bipolarI'm having a problem with dual screens. When KDM loads I can move the mouse over both screens. As soon as I login, I can only use one. I have to run xrandr -s <proper-res> to get the 2nd screen working again. it's very annoying.07:14
ash211in the command line: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list07:14
bipolarI've tried creating a test user, with a default config, and it does the same thing with that user.07:14
ash211stick a pound sign (#) in front of the cd line07:15
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fuci_thanks :)07:16
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ash211let's stay on topic with kubuntu.  Dapper discussion in #ubuntu+107:16
fuci_yay07:16
ash211working?07:16
fuci_its started :)07:16
ash211great!07:17
fuci_yeh07:17
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ash211mine worked for a while too, until I changed to an ATI card a while back07:18
familythere's a new nvidia driver :)07:18
familyhttp://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=6786407:18
ash211now I need to either install ATI drivers or go back to NVidia, because i'm having trouble getting glx and xinerama to work on this ati card07:18
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emmaBloody grumbegrumblegrumble......07:19
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RobboRatBloody grumbegrumblegrumble......07:19
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ash211yeah, i know.  i'm just going to buy an nvidia soon07:20
RobboRatToo used to things 'just work' ing I think.....07:21
RobboRatAmarok seems nicer than XMMS, but neither of them sem to work properly :/07:22
ash211no, it's either one or the other.  xinerama or glx07:22
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RobboRatWTF is Amarok doing? I only want to play some MP3s off a burned CD....07:23
mewhy are my mp3 files not working07:24
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RobboRatHave you installed all the correct stuff for MP3?07:25
Wizz_kiddwhat is the correct stuff07:26
RobboRatgood question07:26
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trappist!tell Wizz_kidd about mp307:27
RobboRathave you searched the wiki? it's the rsticted formats bit07:27
RobboRatty trappist07:28
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RobboRatI wasn't being mysterious - I really don't know myself! I just followed the wiki instructions and it seems to be fine :)07:29
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Wizz_kidddammit07:29
dbakkerwhats the ati card. the latest drm actually worked on my new ati gl card07:30
dbakkerthe ati drivers are getting worsew07:30
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Wizz_kiddwhats the default password for root on my Kubuntu07:31
Libertusnone07:31
dbakkerthere is none. u cant log in as root07:31
dbakkerits an ubuntu thing07:31
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ash211(k)ubuntu doesn't enable root by default07:32
RobboRatwhy do you need root? why not just run as su?07:32
dbakkeryeah sudu all the commands07:32
ash211some programs, like xscreensaver, like to have a real root account07:32
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RobboRatwhat do you do if you can't eject a cd from cli?07:34
RobboRat?07:34
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RobboRathi sfn :)07:34
SomefilenameHello!07:34
RobboRatneed to reinstall OO07:35
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SomefilenameJust got back from trying to make KDE look like Mac OS X Jaguar using Baghira.07:35
RobboRatneeded*07:35
RobboRatwhy jag? why not tiger? ;)07:35
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SomefilenameRobboRat, I was thinking to try Jaguar first.07:35
SomefilenameRobboRat, Tiger is too common.07:35
RobboRatLOL07:36
RobboRatAGH07:36
RobboRatBloody thing07:36
RobboRatWTF?07:36
fuci_can you help me to mount my windows drive?07:36
RobboRatI KNOW there's a disk in there, liar!07:36
SomefilenameDamn - I can't wait untill I get a real Mac.07:36
Wizz_kiddwell when i do su whats the pass?07:36
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RobboRatwhen you do su, the pass should be your login password07:37
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Somefilenamefuci_, Use "mount".07:37
Wizz_kidd...its not07:37
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RobboRatsfn - I can't unmount a cd or eject it - konsole tells me it's not there :/07:37
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Somefilenamefuci_, Usualy Windows parititions mount automatly from fstab.07:37
SomefilenameRobboRat, Use "eject" - sudo eject.07:38
fuci_i checked fstab07:38
fuci_wasnt there07:38
Somefilenamefuci_, What kind of partition is it? NTFS? FAT?07:38
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RobboRatIt's thinking about it :/07:38
fuci_ntfs07:39
Somefilenamefuci_, mkdir /mnt/windows07:39
RobboRatyou need a plugin for ntfs?07:39
Somefilenamefuci_, mount -t ntfs /dev/hdaX /mnt/windows07:39
SomefilenameAlso...07:40
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RobboRatHmm. Doesn't sem to be doing anything now :/07:40
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Somefilenamefuci_, gedit /etc/fstab and add the line "/dev/hdaX /mnt/windows ntfs auto,umask=0 0 0".07:40
fuci_gedit not found:07:41
Somefilenamefuci_, Use any other editor.07:41
Somefilenamefuci_, Use kate.07:41
Somefilenamekate /etc/fstab07:41
fuci_okk07:41
SomefilenameMake sure you put a number instead of "X".07:42
RobboRatDroppint to alt-f1 then issuing eject worked :/07:42
RobboRatWeird behaviour07:42
fuci_Somefilename: yea07:42
SomefilenameRobboRat, Eject always works for me. :->07:42
dbakkeryeah me too. im running the latest and everything automounts and ejects as designed. I didnt set anything up07:43
Somefilenamefuci_, Done?07:43
fuci_soon07:43
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RobboRatHmmmm07:43
RobboRatI get trouble with mounting CDs a lot so far07:43
fuci_Somefilename: i just add it to the bottom ?07:43
Somefilenamedbakker, Mine unmounts but under some time of unactivity.07:43
Somefilenamefuci_, Yeah - it's ok - now reboot and see it will mount automatly. :)07:44
fuci_ok07:44
RobboRatAmacock more like :(07:44
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RobboRatRefuses to do anything usefl again :/07:45
apokryphosRobboRat: language, please.07:45
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RobboRatsorry :(07:45
RobboRatThings nt working make me cross07:46
SomefilenameRobboRat, One question: Why do you use Linux on PPC when you have the big opportunity to get Mac OS X?07:46
apokryphosis amarok-xine installed?07:46
RobboRatYes it is07:46
SomefilenameRobboRat, Are you running Kubuntu?07:46
apokryphosSomefilename: some people prefer... GNU/Linux07:46
Somefilenameapokryphos, Then why would someone buy a PowerPC computer just to run Linux?07:47
RobboRatsfn - because on this particular Mac, OS X runs like it's on valium :)07:47
SomefilenameRobboRat, Maybe this will help you: http://amarok.kde.org/amarokwiki/index.php/MP3_on_Ubuntu_5.1007:47
apokryphosSomefilename: many people just converted after getting it07:47
SomefilenameBrb.07:48
RobboRatI hav sound, just amarok keeps crashing :(07:48
theripperon which multiverse server are the java packages located? couse i have 2 different multiverse servers and i get "couldnt find package java-package"07:48
RobboRatapok - I actually LOVE OS X, but Linux is faster on this machine. And I like to play ;)07:49
apokryphostheripper: /msg ubotu java07:49
apokryphosRobboRat: what amarok version are you running?07:49
RobboRat1.307:49
apokryphosRobboRat: try running 1.4 beta07:49
RobboRatIs 1.4 in the repo?07:49
apokryphoshttp://kubuntu.org/announcements/koffice-amarok-beta2.php07:49
jeff_does anybody know if gdesklets will run on kde desktop?07:50
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jeff_peeps?07:53
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therippertry #ubuntu . ull get more help there07:54
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jeff_lol im on that too07:54
OdyXWho knows about an app that adds a menu item for Image processing (resizing, ...)07:55
OdyX?07:55
fuciSomefilename: works07:55
OdyXjeff_: I thinks it won't work... and that your question is a little...07:55
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fuciit's safe to copy from ntfs disk, isnt it?07:58
RobboRatCan't seem to et the beta of Amarok :/07:58
RobboRatI added the repo for it, and did aptget but no joy07:59
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RobboRatNo help there :(08:11
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indyjanshallo, is there anyone who could hepl me with modem AC 97. The modem is recognized by the system, but I cannot use KPP because it keeps telling me thet the modem is busy. I use Kubuntu 6.04. Thanx  (begginer)08:17
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RobboRatOh godamit! Now Amarok won't start :(08:19
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testhi to all08:22
tsdgeoshi08:22
tsdgeosindyjans: it's a difficult thing, are you sure you are using the correct device in kppp config?08:23
testi'm trying kubuntu..very cool distro08:23
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indyjanstsdgeos: yeas i think so08:24
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CTVhi all08:26
RobboRateh, and now Adpt crashes when I try to revert to 1.3 :D GG Linux08:26
CTVi am looking for a nice firewall wich has an GUI to config08:26
CTVany ideas ?08:26
naliothCTV: a firewall is unnecessary with a default install of kubuntu08:26
RobboRatGAH08:28
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RobboRatafk08:28
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SomefilenameBack.08:30
_userhey guys08:30
_userim a new user08:30
SomefilenameHey _user!08:30
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_useri am a 16 year old girl, looking for a boyfriend who is smart, weak and into lanparties, also a big heart08:31
fuciIs it possible to get Diablo2 working on linux?08:31
_userand he can weigh anywhere between 400-800 lbs08:31
_userim waiting for you big boys08:32
_user....08:32
_userwhy aren't you answering me?!08:32
_useryou don't even know me?!08:32
fuciis this a joke?08:33
Somefilenamefuci, You can make everything work on Linux except Delphi script.08:33
rdtmaybe because we don't believe you?08:33
fuci_user a/s/l08:33
fuciSomefilename: wanna help me ;)?08:33
_userany cupcakes wanna chat?08:33
Somefilenamefuci, Sure.08:33
fuciyay08:33
_useri am a girl looking for cyber sex08:34
fuciSure you are. :>08:34
rdt_user: this is not the place for it08:34
Somefilename_user, You won't get any cubersex unless you run Kubuntu.08:34
_useri am running kubuntu baby08:34
_useri like it a lot too08:34
_userthe terminal program gets me wet08:34
rdtwhat flight-7, _user08:34
SomefilenameI think 'caine got _user crazy for cybersex.08:34
_userc'mon boys don't be afraid...08:35
rdtthank goodness08:35
fuciyeh08:35
fuciso Somefilename, where to start?08:35
Somefilenamefuci, Wine - get Wine.08:36
fuciok08:36
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Somefilenamefuci, Wine is a Windows 16 and 32 bits emulator.08:36
Somefilenamefuci, Get it from http://winehq.org/.08:36
fucihttp://www.winehq.com/site/download08:37
fuciwhich one i download?08:37
Somefilenamefuci, Check your Ubuntu repository - apt-get install wine.08:37
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Somefilenamefuci, If you don't have it then download the one from here http://winehq.org/site/download-deb08:38
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fuciok08:38
fucii dont have it08:38
johnathanahow can I set kdm as default login manager?08:38
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Somefilenamefuci, Impossible!08:39
Somefilenamefuci, You must have Wine in your reposibotry.08:39
Somefilenamejohnathana, Just delete other login managers. :)08:39
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fucii quess i do08:40
fuciit's just not under the name "wine"08:40
fuciPackage wine is not available, but is referred to by another package.08:40
fuciThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or08:40
fuciis only available from another source08:40
Somefilenamejohnathana, Check System Settings > Login Manager.08:40
fuciand in this early stage i remind that i have the new version dapper, was it?08:40
Somefilenamefuci, Ok. Follow the instruction from http://winehq.org/site/download-deb to download it.08:40
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fucisynpatic package manager = adept?08:41
Somefilenamefuci, Yeah - adept...08:42
fuci:)08:42
fucistrange08:42
fuciit wont run :D08:42
fuciit stucks on "loading appiclation" and after a while it goes away and does nothing08:43
SomefilenameJust add "deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/" to /etc/apt/sources.list, run apt-get update and apt-get install wine. That's all.08:43
SomefilenameBrb.08:43
fuciok08:43
Somefilenamefuci, Done yet, mine is done.08:45
fuci60%08:45
fuci90%08:45
fuciand done08:45
fucidownloading08:46
fucii mean :)08:46
fucidone08:46
Somefilenamefuci, Now you can emulate an Windows enviroment. :)08:46
fuci\o08:47
fucido i have to copy the game files from my windows drive?08:47
Somefilenamefuci, Use it as "wine somefilename.exe".08:47
Somefilenamefuci, You can run directly from the mounted harddrive.08:47
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Somefilenamefuci, Means you don't have to copy them.08:48
fuciso it doesn't have a chance to dmg my ntfs drive?08:48
SomefilenameBy the way, did the fstab thing worked?08:48
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fuciyes08:48
ubuntuHi!08:48
SomefilenameHello ubuntu!08:48
ubuntuHello08:49
Somefilenamefuci, Ok - so go play! :)08:49
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fuciyeh !08:49
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Somefilenamefuci, But in some cases - in GTA San Andreas - you need to do some external configuration. Google for that.08:49
fucii dont like gtas on pc08:49
ubuntuthis is my firs time in IRC and in linux08:49
fucigz08:49
Somefilenamefuci, I don't know - I don't play games - I just heard that.08:50
fuciok ;)08:50
Somefilenameubuntu, Well, welcome and feel confy in IRC! :)08:50
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panzihi08:50
SomefilenameHey panzi!08:50
panzii updated kde to version 3.5.208:51
Somefilenamepanzi, Oh, cool. Congrats!08:51
Somefilenamefuci, Another good emulator for games is Cedega.08:51
panziand why the hell did this update delete the display modul in the kontrol center??????08:51
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panzihow do i downgrade?08:51
panzior how do i get this modul back?08:52
Somefilenamefuci, I don't know much about it - so you have to Google it. All I know is that this one can see what games are compatible.08:52
panzii tryed to compile guidance: forget ist08:52
panziit08:52
Somefilenamepanzi, You can't downgrade - you applied an upgrade packages not a new install.08:52
panziit just dosnt compile on kubuntu 5.1008:52
Somefilenamepanzi, You can remove and install an older version of KDE>08:52
fucidamn08:53
fuciit gave me an error08:53
Somefilenamefuci, What error?08:53
fucinot specified08:53
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fuci"Hey guys! We got a big error here"08:53
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panzidose anyone know where the kcmshell modules are sored in the filesystem?08:53
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panzithen i maybe can fix this shit by hand08:53
Somefilenamepanzi, Don't try to compile - use the Ubuntu repository.08:54
Somefilenamepanzi, Saves you a couple of days - that's why I changed from Gentoo. :)08:54
panziand what should that be good for?08:54
panziits totally out of date and it obviously has this bug08:54
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Somefilenamepanzi, I wouldn't say so.08:54
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fuciSomefilename: i think i need to isntall some audio/video codecs to display the welcome intro08:55
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panziit updated using the kubuntu repo, and now there si the display modlul missing08:55
Somefilenamepanzi, There's not bug and nothing is out of date - maybe if you are using some kind of old repository.08:55
Somefilenamefuci, Try w32codecs.08:55
Somefilename!w32codecs08:56
ubotuwell, w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install08:56
panzideb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde352 breezy mai08:56
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Somefilenamepanzi, Ok.08:56
Somefilenamepanzi, You call that out of date?08:56
panzinot kde itself08:56
panziguidance08:56
Somefilenamepanzi, Guidance?08:57
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panziguidance, the python scripts and some .c files used to configure linux in kubuntu08:57
panzihttp://www.simonzone.com/software/guidance/08:58
Somefilenamepanzi, Ok - what's your problem with Kubuntu?08:58
panziafter the kde update, the display kcmshell modul is missing08:58
Somefilenamepanzi, KDE 3.5.2 is not stable.08:58
SomefilenameThat's why I don't use it.08:58
panzii refuse to edit the xorg.conf by hand, if thre is a other way08:59
panzikicker is more stable in kde 3.5.2. it crashed everey logout bevore this version08:59
Somefilenamepanzi, What's the problem in configuring by hand? I mean, is there any other option right now?08:59
flygisofthello. do i need more then 64 ram for kubuntu, my computer is really slow :P08:59
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frank23panzi: not that I know. the display module is missing in breezy because something else replaced it in dapper09:00
panziI just dont know how to apply a resulution change without x-restart09:00
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Somefilenameflygisoft, Depending on what you want to run - server or desktop?09:00
frank23flygisoft: 64 MBs is not much. Try xubuntu. It uses less RAM09:01
panzifrank23: and why dose it miss in breezy?09:01
panzidosn't make any sense09:01
panzii dont use dapper09:01
panziwhen there is a alternative in dapper, i dont care09:01
flygisofta server but i want to use the desktop sometimes...09:01
flygisoftok09:01
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panzii use breezy09:01
frank23panzi: It's a mistake on the part of the developpers. the only official breezy kde is 3.4.3 though. everything else is at your own risk09:01
Simeguidance is breezy doesn't have the X util.09:01
Somefilenameflygisoft, If you want to run Gnome or KDE - no way, 64 MiB is not enought.09:02
panzismegin hell09:02
panzii think i switch back to xp09:02
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fuciSomefilename: do you understand something about this http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wiwimod/index.php?page=HOWTO+Diablo2&back=HOWTO+INDEX+Wine+Games ?09:02
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fuciit has some instructions but... i dunno >.<09:02
frank23panzi: I would just stick with 3.5.109:03
Somefilenamefuci, I will see after I read.09:03
panziused linux-only now for 2 month09:03
panzii hve work to do09:03
flygisoftim using kde now, really slow to use with 64mb ram :P09:03
fuciSomefilename: ok09:03
panzii dont want to work on my system09:03
panzii whant to work with it09:03
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frank23panzi: then stick with what works. kde 3.5.1 worked fine for me09:03
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Somefilenamefuci, It is verry east.09:03
Somefilenameeasy*09:03
Somefilenamefuci, "/drice_c" is in ~.09:04
fucigood :p09:04
Somefilenamefuci, I mean in ~/.wine09:04
fuciye09:05
panzifrank23: so what exactly i have to do when i want to downgrade to kde3.5.1?09:05
frank23panzi: I not sure...09:06
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Somefilenamefuci, Do you have Diablo II already installed?09:06
fucion my windows drive? yes09:07
fuciit starts the game and runs for ~5s09:07
Somefilenamefuci, Run the executable using "wine exec.exe".09:07
frank23panzi: downgrading is harder than upgrading. as a workaround for changing resolution, you can use xrandr.    xrandr to get a list of res and xrandr -s ##  to switch09:08
fuciexec?09:08
Somefilenamefuci, Check this http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?versionId=4909:09
fuciok09:10
Somefilenamefuci, Try to use "wine diabloii.exe -opengl".09:10
fuciok09:10
flygisoftdoes someone know how to stream music from a windows computer to a linux and make the linux computer to play it?09:11
fucitaneli@dsl-aur-feccf800-164:/mnt/windows/Program Files/Diablo II$ wine "diablo ii.exe -opengl"09:11
fuciwine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\diablo ii.exe -opengl": Module not found09:11
fucistrange09:12
Somefilenamefuci, What is the executable's name?09:12
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TheNightRider``hey all09:12
fucidiablo ii.exe09:12
TheNightRider``its me again09:12
TheNightRider``;D09:12
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fucior Diablo II.exe09:12
TheNightRider``Diablo?09:12
TheNightRider``:)09:12
Somefilenamefuci, Well - there's a gap there - Linux doesn't support that.09:12
fucioh darn09:12
Somefilenamefuci, Rename to Diablo_II.exe.09:12
TheNightRider``yeah09:12
TheNightRider``no .exe in linux ^^09:12
TheNightRider``except with wine09:13
TheNightRider``but its not perfect09:13
TheNightRider``!wine09:13
fuciSomefilename:  but then i have to modify file on ntfs mount09:13
fucishould i copy the files on my linux hd09:13
TheNightRider``yes09:13
Somefilenamefuci, Copying wouldn't be a bad idea.09:13
flygisoftcan you use all programs (exe-files) with wine?09:14
Somefilenamefuci, Wait - don't copy yet.09:14
TheNightRider``no09:14
fuci?09:14
TheNightRider``some of them require C:/09:14
TheNightRider``which isnt quite linux style09:14
flygisoftok09:14
TheNightRider``if u know what i mean :D09:14
flygisoft:P09:14
TheNightRider``www.winehq.org09:14
TheNightRider``btw09:15
Somefilenamefuci, OK - copy them.09:15
Somefilenamefuci,  I don't see any other option.09:15
TheNightRider``i heard there were free .org domain names o.009:15
SomefilenameTheNightRider`` , Where? Where?!09:15
flygisoftyeah where?09:15
EddieXWhy can?t i read "msn away messages" in kopete (3.5.2)09:15
TheNightRider``thats what im asking09:15
fuciok09:15
TheNightRider``EddieX i have no idea ^^09:15
SomefilenameEddieX, We don't know - ask the ones that developed Kopete.09:16
TheNightRider``yeah09:16
TheNightRider``:D09:16
EddieXSomefilename, Ok :)09:16
Somefilename"Companies have voted with their feet [on the issue of domains] , they want to have domain names that are international or at least country neutral. The same freedom should apply to individuals; all individuals should be able to have and own their own domain names".09:17
TheNightRider``oh btw09:17
EddieXFind it weird though, wy remove something like that hehe09:17
TheNightRider``when adept starts09:17
TheNightRider``it crashes o.009:17
fucihmm09:17
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fucinow i got to the screen to enter my account name&pass09:18
fucithen it gives error09:18
SomefilenameBrb.09:18
TheNightRider``name and pass09:18
TheNightRider``for where?09:18
fucidiablo209:18
fucibnet09:18
flygisoftcan i play music if im running kubuntu in "server mode"09:19
panzithouse fucking asholes09:19
Somefilenameflygisoft, You need to star arts to play sounds.09:19
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TuBLo. This is going to be my first try with a linux OS, will be installing on an old AMD K6 system, which version should i be looking at downloading?09:21
Random_Transitubuntu09:21
Random_Transitplain and simple...you can't find a distro that's easier to use09:21
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TuBSo just grab the dapper-dvd-i386.iso, burn and install?09:22
TheNightRider``im restarting the comp09:22
TheNightRider``brb09:22
Random_Transitno...best to use breezy09:22
Random_Transitdapper won't be stable for a few more months09:23
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seeleis there an issue with certain wireless cards in dapper?09:23
seelesystem log is reporting eth0 as the wireless device, but network settings has it set to eth109:24
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TuBthanks.09:25
Riddellseele: almost certainly network settings getting it wrong09:25
Riddellseele: you could try installing knetworkmanager (you'd need to move /etc/network/interfaces out the way)09:25
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TheNightRider``im back :}09:26
TheNightRider``great, i downloaded wine09:27
TheNightRider``now to test if diablo would work ^^09:27
seeleRiddell: is that package on the dapper CD or will i have to get the archive?09:28
Riddellseele: it's network-manager-kde and its in universe not on the CD09:28
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Madeyeany GUI client to access webDAV?09:28
Random_TransitTheNightRider: umm...i think diablo requires DirectX...which Wine can't do09:28
RiddellMadeye: konqueror09:28
seeleRiddell: ok, ill try that.  thanks :)09:28
TheNightRider``Random_Transit, its Direct3D :)09:29
Random_Transitah09:29
TheNightRider``or DirectDraw09:29
MadeyeRiddell, sorry but how to access webDAV with konqueror09:29
RiddellMadeye: webdav://example.com/foo09:29
MadeyeRiddell, thank you dude :-)09:31
robotgeekRiddell: kdesvn has issues?09:32
TheNightRider``omg omg omg09:33
TheNightRider``it worked!!09:33
TheNightRider``:D09:33
TheNightRider``nice!09:34
TheNightRider``:P09:34
fuci!!!09:34
ubotufuci: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/09:34
fucihow09:34
TheNightRider``i just ran it09:34
fuciTheNightRider``:  :o09:34
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TheNightRider``so fuckin simple09:34
TheNightRider``oops09:34
fuciwhere did u ran it?09:35
TheNightRider``with wine09:35
TheNightRider``:}09:35
fucibut in windows folder or?09:35
fucihow09:35
fucitell me!09:35
SomefilenameBack.09:36
SomefilenameSo, fuci, coppied all the files yet?09:36
fucito my linux hd?09:36
fuciyes09:36
Somefilenamefuci, Ran it yet?09:36
TheNightRider``well09:37
TheNightRider``i copied it to /home09:37
TheNightRider``:D09:37
fucii can get to login screen09:37
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TuBthanks for the help, Random_Transit09:39
fucinot fair09:39
fucii wanna play d2 :(09:39
seeleRiddell: is there something running in the background?  shouldnt i be able to bring up eth0 manually without kwifi or knetwork?09:39
Somefilenamefuci, Have you rename tha executable?09:40
fucijep09:40
fucito diablo_ii.exe09:40
Somefilenamefuci, Now run it - "wine diablo_ii.exe -opengl".09:40
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fucisame thing09:41
fucidoesn't work09:41
Massacrationhi everyone09:41
Somefilenamefuci, What does it says?09:41
Massacrationcould anybody tell me how install open office 2.0.2?09:41
TheNightRider``bad news guys09:42
fuciSomefilename: doesn't say anything09:42
TheNightRider``it only works with sp :(09:42
fuci"Hey guys! Big problems here"09:42
SomefilenameMassacration, Emerge it.09:42
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Massacrationisn't there a rep to aptget it?09:43
SomefilenameMassacration, Use "aptitude" - you will find Open Office KDE in the list - good luck!09:43
Somefilenamefuci, Try using Cedega - as I said.09:44
fuciok09:44
Riddellseele: you can edit /etc/networks/interfaces yourself and do sudo ifup eth009:44
Somefilenamefuci, Also known as WineX>09:44
Somefilenamefuci, http://www.transgaming.com/09:44
fuciok09:44
seeleRiddell: yeah, thats what i did and it didnt work :/09:44
fuciSomefilename: it isn't free :<?09:46
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Somefilenamefuci, You need to subscribe or try to emerge it with APT>09:46
jeff_hey guys09:46
SomefilenameWelcome back jeff_!09:46
jeff_lol09:46
jeff_hows everything?09:46
fuciSomefilename: how?09:47
Somefilenamefuci, Forget it.09:47
jeff_i just installed visualboy advance from the repos, its not on the kmenu :(09:47
fuci:)09:47
Riddellseele: have you set the essid?09:48
Somefilenamejeff_, Configure the KMenu.09:48
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jeff_somefilename: how?09:48
TheNightRider``hey jeff_ :)09:48
seeleRiddell: yeah, wireless-essid myessid, correct?09:48
Somefilenamejeff_, Right click > Menu Editor.09:48
Riddellseele: yes09:49
jeff_thenightrider: hey man09:49
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TheNightRider``sup :)09:49
jeff_somefilename: ok, ill try that09:49
Riddellseele: is the essid and Access Point set correctly in iwconfig?09:49
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seeleah.. ok.  theres a problem.  iwconfig still things the wireless device is on eth1 and not eth009:50
Riddellseele: what does it say for eth0?09:51
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seeleno wireless extensions09:51
Riddellseele: ok, so the log that said it was eth0 is wrong, it's really eth109:51
Riddellso knetworkconf wasn't broken.  First time ever.09:51
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jeff_somefilename: what should i configure in menu editor? i dont see vba anywhere09:56
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seele/etc/network/interfaces:17: too few parameters for iface line09:58
seelehead->desk09:58
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Riddellseele: paste it into kubuntu.pastebin.com09:58
seeleRiddell: haha, im typing this out cause i have no access :)09:58
Riddellah, of course09:59
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Riddellseele: mine  http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/64672410:00
jeff_does anybody use visualboy advance?10:00
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seeleRiddell: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/64673010:01
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Riddelliface eth0 inet10:03
Riddellthat needs dhcp on the end10:03
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Riddelliface eth0 inet dhcp10:03
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seelewhoot, thanks :)10:04
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roothello10:04
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kavitdoes anyone know if Dapper will have XGL support?10:07
bimberi!xgl10:09
ubotuXGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/10:09
bimberikavit: sorry, that's not the answer you're looking for ...10:09
bimberikavit: no, it's too new to be part of the core distribution, but it's already in the ubuntu repositories for play purposes.  Perhaps dapper+1.10:10
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fucisooo10:25
fucianyone up to help me install diablo2 and lod ;)?10:25
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_frank#ubuntu-de-treffpunkt10:36
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mecould someone upload or pastebin thier souces apt list mine got all messed up :(10:43
mei am using kubuntu dapper flight 6 or w/e10:43
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ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource10:44
mvv!easysource10:45
ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic10:45
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mewhere is the sources/list file at again ?10:49
me.10:49
bimberime: /etc/apt/sources.list10:51
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methis might sound dumb but how in KDE to i open a file borwser10:53
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epme that would be konqueror10:57
mei know but how would i open it in a file browser form and not a web browser form10:58
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kevmanI have two computers. Their hardware is slightly different, and one has Kubuntu installed and configured. I need the other to have an identical configuration.10:59
kevmanAny suggestions on how to do this?10:59
meis there any better kde package managers then this adept i dont like it too much11:00
keiferme: system menu -> home (for the filebrowser question11:01
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mehuh?11:01
frank23me: you can try synaptic instead of adept. I like it better. its a gnome app11:01
epsynaptic is well regarded, it's not qt based however11:01
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epi like it better too11:02
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mabelhi11:02
mei used it with Gnome but im trying to keep everything KDE ish11:02
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meisnt' there something called Kynaptic11:02
meor Kpackage ?11:02
mabelis there a german speaking channel for kubuntuusers?11:03
frank23me: yeah kynaptic was the default in hoary. it should still be in the repos. kpackage as well11:03
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frank23me: kynaptic is not as good as synaptic though11:03
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mewill kynaptic work on dapper?11:03
mewhats missing anything major?11:03
frank23me: I don really remember... I just use synaptic because I like it.11:04
epi like to keep stuff KDE'ish as well but In my case the package mgr isnt run that often11:04
FadedSunYou can try any of them and decide for yourself. :p11:04
mewill do11:04
meadept sucks11:04
mei hate it11:04
keifermabel, you might try #kubuntu-de11:04
FadedSunI like adept, but that's just me. ;)11:05
mebut i sitll havent figured out how konquer to make it file broswer browseing11:05
meits slow11:05
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frank23me: click the konqueror icon next to K-menu. then chose home folder11:06
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mabelthank a lot keifer11:06
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methanks ;)11:06
medidnt see that11:06
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Henninghi11:06
laboratoriohi11:06
Henningcould someone be so kind as to help me11:07
FadedSunI actually find myself using apt-get much more then any gui package manager. Seems a lot quicker and easier.11:07
Henningim a unix noob, and i just installed kubuntu11:07
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frank23Henning: just ask your questions. If someone knows the answer, they will11:07
Henningthe problem is, that, when i try to setup my broadband, and i enter my password (useraccount pass) the screen flips back, as if i were using the wrong pass11:08
frank23FadedSun: what I like the gui package manager for is searching11:08
FadedSunapt-cache search works pretty good for me11:08
epi do too fadedsun but the package mgr is nice to browse around, see what's available, read a description etc11:08
Henningthe root password, is my user acc pass, right?11:08
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frank23Henning: yeah.11:08
Henningmmh11:08
mehow do i run Konqueror in su mode11:08
speedracerI need to know how to totally wipe all of the files put on my machine when I apt-get something11:09
meisnt there an option for that somewhere here11:09
Henninglol11:09
frank23Henning: are you using breezy or dapper?11:09
Henningso many people bombarding the chan11:09
Henning@frank23: breezy11:09
Henningdled it today11:09
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Henningcant i just activate the root acx?11:09
speedracerme: I thought there was too11:10
laboratoriohi, i never died11:10
frank23Henning: it's possible but not necessary11:10
frank23Henning: try sudo kcontrol11:10
mewhere is the option11:10
speedracerlike I ran apt-get remove and it didn't work, and then I tried apt-get remove --purge and that didn't do it either11:10
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frank23me: running konqueror as root is not a good idea. I doubt there is a gui option for that.11:11
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mewhy doesnt SU work11:12
meonly sudo11:12
frank23me: you can start it with kdesu konqueror11:12
Henningsuso you think going over kcontrol, will make a differance to "system settings--> network settings" ?11:12
mekdesu?11:12
frank23me: because the root account is locked by default11:12
Henning(im asking, coz i gotta reboot each time, before i come back)11:12
frank23!rootsudo11:12
ubotuBy default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.11:12
FadedSunep, that is what packages.ubuntu.com is for! :p11:12
frank23me: kdesu is the sudo equivalent for kde apps11:13
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mei seee11:13
fucihmm11:13
fuciwhy is kde better than gnome?11:13
Henninglol11:13
mekdesu konqueror doesnt work11:13
frank23Henning: not using kcontrol but starting kcontrol as root maybe.11:13
epbecause Linus said it was.11:14
frank23fuci: you have to try it and decide yourself11:14
Henningno, he said gnome proggers suck11:14
FadedSunkde lets you do whatever you want. gnome only lets you do what the developers think your puny little brain can handle. :p11:14
keiferactualy, I took it as hw said the gnome HIG sucks11:14
ephe said it in more ways than one, yes :)11:14
fucifrank23: i've used both kde and gnome11:14
fucibut i'm just a newbie so i dont see so much difference in them11:15
melol sudo or kdesu sint working with konqueror11:15
fuciexcept the' startmenu'11:15
Henning@frank23: so in genereal: i find kcontrol, log in via sudo, and the find network settings? (sorry, but i have no idea what im doing... xD although im firm with windows, and have installed a unix vserer, so basics are there)11:15
frank23Henning: you login to kde normaly. open a konsole   and  enter  sudo kcontrol       it will ask for your password11:16
Snake__frank23: BAD11:17
Henningand then i edit the settings via commands, like without a DE?11:17
Snake__BAD FRANK11:17
Snake__Henning: use kdesu for GUI, sudo for CLI11:17
Henningmmh, the way you put it i should first of all read a book, and then come back11:17
Henning:-)11:17
frank23Snake__: umm yeah...  although sudo does work for kcontrol11:18
Henningbut ill try and find kcontrol, and go as told to.11:18
Henningthanks, see you later11:18
Snake__frank23: ya, but when he sudo's something he shouldn't he shall be screwed11:18
frank23Snake__: yeah. although in dapper sudo kate actually works now. I don know what changed11:19
Snake__...why would he leave...all he needed to do was hit alt+f2, and type kdesu kcontrol... WOW MOM I FOUND IT11:19
Snake__lol11:19
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Snake__lol11:19
frank23Snake__: no he came here with another OS. the problem is with configuring network11:19
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Snake__frank23: ah alrighty11:19
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mewhere can i get kynaptic11:24
frank23me: it in the universe repository11:25
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noteventime!usplash11:26
ubotuusplash is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto11:26
mewhats the univerala repos?11:27
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noteventimeuniverse?11:27
frank23!sources11:27
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slow-motionn811:28
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noteventime!grub11:37
ubotuhttp://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting11:37
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IdefiX666can anybody help me with 4294675.149000 ohci1394: fw-host0: SelfID recived outside of bus reset sequence error? I cant install ubuntu because of that... http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=4421.msg17333#msg17333 thx in advance11:41
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IdefiX666really need help :( I can't slove that myself11:42
CheeseBurgerManHmm11:42
IdefiX666any idea?11:43
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CheeseBurgerManWell, it stops at booting the kernel for me unless I add the paramaters 'noapic nolapic' - unfortuneatly, I have no idea what that actually does, so I can't say if that'll actually work in your situation11:44
raphinkIdefiX666: what do you call the newest kubuntu?11:44
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IdefiX6666.0611:44
raphinkIdefiX666: 6.06 doesn't exist as stable yet11:45
raphinkthere is a new version once every hour or so ;)11:45
raphinkso which one did you call the latest one?11:45
raphinkwell not one every hour, I mean there are new packages once every hour or so, and there is an install CD everyday11:46
IdefiX666this is mine: dapper-dvd-i38611:46
kameronsudo apt-get install linux-image-2.6.15-20-386 tells me it's already the newest version, but uname -r shows that i'm running the -15-... upgrading kernels with dist-upgrade also doesn't work. anyone else have this problem? i'm running kubuntu dapper.11:46
raphinkIdefiX666: from what day ? what version? what snapshot?11:46
raphinkdid you have the time to update it?11:46
CheeseBurgerMankameron: you may want to try #ubuntu+1 for dapper problems.11:47
raphinkkameron: did you reboot?11:47
kameronraphink, yes, serveral times.11:47
kameronCheeseBurgerMan, i'm in that chan too11:47
CheeseBurgerManOh, OK11:47
raphinkkameron: i386?11:47
IdefiX666version from 03-Apr-200611:47
IdefiX666downloaded from here: http://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/ubuntu-cdimage/kubuntu/dvd/current/11:48
kameronraphink, yes.. i just figured out the problem.11:48
raphinkIdefiX666: so before the install finished you go this message, when the comp rebooted?11:48
raphinkkameron: good11:48
raphinkIdefiX666: there's no point in getting the DVD for dapper imo11:48
IdefiX666no. I got this masage before instalation begins.... Uncompressing Linux... OK, booting Kernel4294675.149000 ohci1394: fw-host0: SelfID recived outside of bus reset sequence11:48
kameronraphink, basically, the problem is,lilo sucks.. hah. too bad grub doesn't run on this hard ware.11:49
raphinkkameron: what hardware?11:49
raphinkIdefiX666: oh11:49
raphinkIdefiX666: then try what CheeseBurgerMan suggested before11:49
kameronraphink, a newer DFI board.11:49
raphinkhmm I don't know what a DFI board is11:50
raphinkbut ok11:50
mei need the actual links to the repsoitory11:50
kameronraphink, DFI motherboard.11:50
raphinkah ok11:50
raphinksorry11:50
kameronraphink, it has some ridiculous name like.. DFI ultra lanboy extreme hardcore.. etc. i don't know. reviews show it to overclock amd64 procs better than most.11:51
raphinkhmmm ok11:51
raphinkbut it doesn't support grub11:51
raphink...11:51
methey need to make Kaim11:51
kameronraphink, grub is a lot newer than lilo, it doesn't run on as much hardware as lilo does, i've found at least. this computer simply will not boot using grub.11:51
raphinkMe sorry?11:51
raphinkwhat are you talking about Me?11:52
raphinkyes kameron that's right11:52
raphinkgrub is also much better ;:)11:52
raphinkactually the first time I switched to grub was to test the Hurd11:52
raphink;)11:52
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kameronfrom what i've heard. i was going to use grub on this new system.. before this i was using BootX on an older ppc that doesn't support yaboot.. but then i got stuck with lilo. oh well, it works raphink11:53
raphinkkameron: I remember having fun with bootX in the past too11:53
kameronraphink, if pulling teeth is fun... then sure :D11:53
raphinkit was horrible as you had to start MacOS before getting to boot into linux11:53
raphinknow I've got a G4 so it's nicer11:54
raphinknot much nicer, since yaboot is still quite primary11:54
raphinkcompared to lilo or grub11:54
raphinkand I reckon that having a nice bootloader on PPC would be great11:54
kameronhaha, exactly.. i HAD to boot os9, then get it to escape the kernel. kind of ridiculous. really slowed down the whole boot process. plus you're forced to give os8 or 9 it's own partition, just to do nothing. and hdd space was valuable on that sys11:55
kameronraphink,11:55
raphinkyep11:55
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raphinkwell at that time I had changed my HD11:55
raphinkI had bought a 40GB IDE11:55
raphinkfor my 4400/20011:56
raphink:)11:56
raphinkI had got the RAM up to 8011:56
raphinkfor a very expensive price11:56
raphinkwell my machine was boosted that is11:56
raphinklol11:56
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raphinkand I was running YDL ;)11:56
raphinkI'll brb11:56
glyphhow do i switch from GDM to KDM?11:56
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IdefiX666ehhh... no one can help me :( gonna serch for other distro ;(12:02

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