[12:00] <kh4nh> i looked into that
[12:00] <mwe> kh4nh: but most files are just in /usr/include/
[12:00] <punkrockguy318> Hey guys, I'm looking at a possible improvement.  gksudo does not take advantage of the completion that sudo does.  What harm would there be in having command-line completion for gksu?  But, where is bash completion handled?  In bash itself?  A seperate package?  Or are the scripts installed by the applications?
[12:00] <jnk> _harm, ok.... try running mplayer directly from the command line, like this:  mplayer -vo xv -fs  some_file.avi
[12:01] <jnk> Christopher, for hamachi you'd have to compile it yourself it seems
[12:01] <kh4nh> found it, thanks nwe
[12:01] <Bambino_> Excuse me does anyone know, when I installed my ATI driver, i lost the screen resolution for 1280x800 like i could use before. Does anyone know why?!
[12:01] <mwe> got2b3d: but sys 630/730 is wrong?
[12:01] <got2b3d> mwe http://pastebin.com/645016
[12:01] <mwe> got2b3d: sis*
[12:01] <got2b3d> mwe unless it means the actual PCI to AGP
[12:01] <ipfw> Has it been over a week since Breezy had any software upgrades ?
[12:02] <Random_Transit> hey, does anyone know how to get .NET apps for windows to emulate correctly under WINE?
[12:02] <jnk> Christopher, (well not compile but run make install, and it's not very nice to put random files in the system... maybe use checkinstall)
[12:02] <yaaar> Random_Transit: try ritual animal sacrifice
[12:02] <Random_Transit> lol
[12:02] <_harm> jnk that works :P but sadly it doesnt do it via GUI :S...
[12:02] <Christopher> thanks
[12:02] <Christopher> ill try it
[12:02] <jnk> _harm, what gui is it?
[12:03] <mwe> Random_Transit: you probably can't. only a tiny fraction of all windows programs work in the first place
[12:03] <_harm> well i mean the Mplayer gui thingy :p
[12:03] <rambo3> macromedia plashplayer doesnt have sound any ideas?
[12:03] <rambo3> flashplaer
[12:03] <jnk> _harm, and if you just run: mplayer some_file.avi does it work (after you manually switch to full screen by pressing 'f')
[12:03] <Random_Transit> in that case, can you suggest a good binary-oriented usenet client?
[12:03] <sfar> !tell rambo3 about flash
[12:03] <yaaar> Random_Transit: honestly, i don't think you'll have much luck. you may be better off trying to get it to run with mono native, but that will depend on whether it calls-back to win32 stuff
[12:03] <got2b3d> mwe I also have an uninstalled e-GeForce MX 4000 that I can't get to work
[12:03] <_harm> ill try
[12:03] <_harm> jnk ill try
[12:03] <kevogod> mwe: It appears Nautilus is attempting to create a thumbnail for a 385.1 MB TIFF image, and it would seem Nautilus is rather incapable of doing so.
[12:04] <jason__> any one here ever install america's army?
[12:04] <mwe> kevogod: heh. yes
[12:04] <kevogod> mwe: It finally just finished.
[12:04] <got2b3d> jason__, I was installed for 3 years.
[12:04] <mwe> kevogod: stupid
[12:04] <Random_Transit> bah...america's army...propaganda bullcrap
[12:04] <jason__> i installed, but am new to linux, and cannot find an "executable" file for lack of a better term
[12:04] <mwe> got2b3d: what happens with the gf 4000 mx?
[12:05] <_harm> jnk yes that works aswell.. but it doesnt work when i start up via K(startbutton)>>multimedia>>mplayer then  it doesnt work
[12:05] <mwe> kevogod: it shouldn't do that. report a bug. it should ignore files of that size when it can't cope with it
[12:06] <got2b3d> mwe I follow the instructions to install the driver but I have problems with the kernel
[12:06] <squiddle_drunk> kevogod  you can limit the filesize for which nautilus tries to make a thumbnail in the settings
[12:06] <mwe> got2b3d: problems with the kernel?
[12:06] <svenne> noen som kan norsk her
[12:06] <squiddle_drunk> kevogod  but still it is a bug so please report it
[12:06] <jnk> _harm, while you have this gui running, can you check the name of the process (in the output from "ps aux")
[12:06] <sfar> !no
[12:06] <ubotu> sfar: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:07] <got2b3d> mwe after install I ctrl-alt-backspace and I the login is as far as I get
[12:07] <sfar> svenne: there is swedes in #ubuntu.se
[12:07] <rambo3> !tell sfar i check that page beofre asking here
[12:07] <mwe> got2b3d: but what do you mean you have problems with the kernel? does it oops or something?
[12:08] <kevogod> squiddle_drunk: Well, the default setting is for files under 1 GB. It does not take resolution into account apparently.
[12:08] <sfar> rambo3: ok
[12:08] <Random_Transit> hey, is GNOME 2.14 in the breezy repos yet?
[12:08] <kevogod> This is an 18000x18000 highly detailed image.
[12:08] <mwe> well gotta go. good night all
[12:08] <rambo3> yet?
[12:09] <got2b3d> mwe I went into BIOS and set the primary adapter as 'AGP', installed the nvidia driver from www.nvidia.com, installed the uname -r kernels but I can only log my name and password at startup and thats it.
[12:09] <jason__> how do you run a .sh program?
[12:09] <squiddle_drunk> jason__  sh MYPROGRAM.sh
[12:09] <kevogod> jason__: From the terminal, type sh <name>.sh
[12:09] <Angel_Dex> Hello! i just bought some surround sound speakers YET! YET! the surround sound ones the cnter and two rears dont work why so?
[12:09] <rambo3> i think the oiunt if releese is stablizing curent software not adding more
[12:09] <Random_Transit> jason__ "./script_name"
[12:09] <tappaja> i got my moodle learning enviroment working, LOL.
[12:09] <rambo3> point
[12:10] <barry83> where do i get like flash media player for unbutu
[12:10] <got2b3d> barry83, sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla
[12:10] <barry83> ok... still confused
[12:11] <kevogod> barry83: You must enable additional repositories from within Synaptic.
[12:11] <Angel_Dex> anyone?
[12:11] <jason_> it says "libstdc++.so.5: cannot open....  any ideas?
[12:11] <sfar> !tell barry83 about multiverse
[12:11] <barry83> ok what are the names of these repositories, and how do i get there
[12:11] <sfar> !tell barry83 about flash
[12:11] <carthik> !tell barry83 about universe
[12:11] <tappaja> my ubuntu is silent -> after one week still no sound.
[12:11] <maxallen> quick question- what's the best way to install gcc and related goodies?
[12:11] <Rdde> anyone knows why my cron.hourly scripts don't run?!? =(
[12:11] <carthik> maxallen, apt-get install build-essential
[12:12] <maxallen> thanks
[12:12] <got2b3d> tappaja, turn up the volume?  :P
[12:12] <kevogod> barry83: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[12:12] <Mystic_Portal> is there a ubuntu browser?
[12:12] <sfar> carthik: universe and multiverse generates the same reply :)
[12:12] <kevogod> Mystic_Portal: Ubuntu browser?
[12:12] <jason_> it says "libstdc++.so.5: cannot open....  when i run an sh, any ideas?
[12:12] <Mystic_Portal> like internet explorer or fire fox
[12:12] <barry83> ok, ok
[12:12] <Angel_Dex> kevogod think hemeans like windows has IE does ubuntu has its own
[12:13] <squiddle_drunk> Mystic_Portal  yes firefox or epiphany
[12:13] <kevogod> Mystic_Portal: There is Epiphany for GNOME.
[12:13] <carthik> sfar, i didnt see you helping him, soory
[12:13] <Mystic_Portal> kevogod: what is GNOME?
[12:13] <ompaul> Mystic_Portal, ephiphany-browser is the package :-)
[12:13] <got2b3d> jason_ try sudo?
[12:13] <sfar> carthik: no harm done :)
[12:13] <kevogod> Mystic_Portal: GNOME is the graphical environment.
[12:13] <intuos_pen> hello, whats a good gui service management program so that one would no longer have to manually start restart daemons on /etc/init.d ?
[12:13] <Angel_Dex> Mystic_Portal the enviroment ubuntu uses
[12:13] <ompaul> Mystic_Portal, epiphany-browser rather :)
[12:13] <intuos_pen> i mean on a terminal.
[12:14] <kevogod> Mystic_Portal: For example, the name of the file browser in GNOME is Nautilus.
[12:14] <jason_> sudo = same.
[12:14] <Mystic_Portal> ompaul where do i get epiphany?
[12:14] <ompaul> Mystic_Portal, have you installed Ubuntu?
[12:14] <Mystic_Portal> kevogod I am new at computers
[12:14] <Angel_Dex> Mystic_Portal repos =o
[12:14] <carthik> intuos_pen, boot-up-manager or "bum"
[12:14] <Mystic_Portal> ompaul I ordered it today
[12:14] <svenne> dvd player fore ubuntu
[12:14] <jason_> it says "libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[12:14] <kevogod> Mystic_Portal: Go to System > Administration > Synaptic Package Manager
[12:14] <kevogod> Mystic_Portal: Then conduct a search for "Epiphany"
[12:15] <intuos_pen> carthik: apt-get install bum or apt-get install boot-up-manager ?
[12:15] <jason_> am i missing a library?
[12:15] <Angel_Dex> Mystic_Portal OR if you look on your applications menu it will have add applications use that Youmight wanna check out galeon web browser too its similer
[12:15] <intuos_pen> carthik: well i could try both and spare you a headache. thanks much.
[12:15] <devnull> i am trying to install xserver-xorg-driver-ati but it says it depends on abiword ... and a whole lot of stuff that i can't install
[12:15] <got2b3d> mwe still there?
[12:15] <Mystic_Portal> and what is a good program to access irc?
[12:15] <carthik> intuos_pen, you could apt-cache search bum
[12:15] <devnull> pretty much seems like ubuntu-desktop and xubuntu-desktop are battling and i can't fix it
[12:15] <intuos_pen> carthik: already installed.
[12:15] <Angel_Dex> Mystic_Portal xchat is the easest
[12:15] <kevogod> Angel_Dex: I always forget about that since I use aptitude. :-)
[12:15] <carthik> intuos_pen, i later read that you wanted a command line tool. Sorry.
[12:15] <intuos_pen> carthik: thank again. :)
[12:16] <maxallen> i'm trying to build wine, and it tells me "checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[12:16] <maxallen> "
[12:16] <Angel_Dex> kevogod lol its good for newbs
[12:16] <intuos_pen> intuos_pen: no i really want this bum.
[12:16] <Angel_Dex> kevogod took me like 2 weeks tolearn synaptic
[12:16] <ompaul> Mystic_Portal, you just install it - common misconception Ubuntu requires you do so something hard to get software, come here and we can get you running with the aid of a couple good pages - but we already have firefox as a default broswer in fact we have many browsers, and thousands of useful programs
[12:17] <svenne> dvd player fore ubuntu
[12:17] <squiddle_drunk> svenne  totem mplayer xine vlc
[12:17] <ompaul> !tell svenne about restricted
[12:18] <Mystic_Portal> ompaul is there a way to install it without a disc or a cd burner?
[12:18] <kevogod> Angel_Dex: I use aptitude because it removes unused dependencies on installations from aptitude.
[12:18] <tappaja> what is the difference between 5.10 breeze and new ver 6.04 Ubuntu? should I update my OS
[12:18] <devnull> hmm i can't remove or install anything
[12:18] <ompaul> !tell Mystic_Portal about install
[12:18] <Angel_Dex> Mystic_Portal Firefox Epiphany Galeon Mozilla Konqueor are a few good web browsers
[12:19] <ompaul> Mystic_Portal, read the message from ubotu
[12:19] <devnull> conflicts with dependancies ... what do i do in this case
[12:19] <Angel_Dex> Mystic_Portal And for Xchat there is Bitchx and TinyIRC which are both terminal base then Xchat and Xchat-GNOME IRC chat which are graphical
[12:19] <carthik> devnull, try a $sudo apt-get -f install
[12:19] <Angel_Dex> kevogod  never heard of it i usualy use what the OS comes with cuz its built around it
[12:20] <kevogod> Angel_Dex: I think aptitude comes with Ubuntu.
[12:20] <Angel_Dex> Mystic_Portal also you can use GAIM or Kopete For IRC MSNM AIM YIM JAPPER and ICQ
[12:20] <Mystic_Portal> ompaul i am going to skip on getting ubuntu. It is all to hard to understand
[12:20] <Angel_Dex> kevogod Hum i dunno
[12:20] <squiddle_drunk> how can i get a kernel module being loaded automaticly on startup?
[12:20] <kevogod> Angel_Dex: It's officially supported.
[12:21] <Angel_Dex> Mystic_Portal its really not the only confusing things are the terminalogy
[12:21] <kevogod> Angel_Dex: It does not come installed from the CD.
[12:21] <rambo3> squiddle_drunk, add modprobe script
[12:21] <Angel_Dex> kevogod yeah i dont got it then
[12:21] <kevogod> Although it might be installable from the Cd.
[12:21] <Mystic_Portal> I am 14 years old for sake. I can't do this
[12:21] <ompaul> Mystic_Portal, when you get the disks, run the live CD and then it will become a lot easier
[12:21] <squiddle_drunk> rambo3  is there no common config file?
[12:21] <ompaul> Mystic_Portal, to understand
[12:21] <kevogod> Mystic_Portal: Do you not even have Ubuntu running?
[12:21] <maxallen> any idea why i can't compile wine?
[12:21] <Mystic_Portal> I am trying to get it
[12:22] <Angel_Dex> kevogod He needs a live CD badly
[12:22] <Mystic_Portal> Can I install it without a cd?????
[12:22] <ompaul> Mystic_Portal, when you have it then have a look
[12:22] <rambo3> squiddle_drunk, what module
[12:22] <Angel_Dex> Mystic_Portal You need to get ubunut 5.10 Live CD iso and burn it to CD then you can boot off the CD to TRY ubuntu befor installing it
[12:22] <ompaul> Mystic_Portal, have you a CD burner?
[12:23] <squiddle_drunk> rambo3  i found it /etc/modules the module is truecrypt (self built)
[12:23] <Mystic_Portal> Ya but dont know how to use it :s
[12:23] <rambo3> there you go
[12:23] <Angel_Dex> ompaul kevogod he can get one from a distro seller online too no?
[12:23] <Angel_Dex> Mystic_Portal >< use Silent night Micro burner
[12:23] <sfar> Mystic_Portal: you can get free cd's
[12:23] <EpP> hey anyone here have a clamshell ibook?
[12:23] <devnull> carthik if i am still having trouble after apt-get -f install ?
[12:24] <sfar> Mystic_Portal: https://shipit.ubuntu.com/
[12:24] <Angel_Dex> ah to be young again
[12:24] <Mystic_Portal> oh i ordered one of those bout a week and and a half ago
[12:24] <devnull> still getting dependancy issues between abiword and abiword common and xfce4 ... must be a version issue
[12:24] <sfar> Mystic_Portal: it can take a couple of weeks to get them
[12:25] <Angel_Dex> Mystic_Portal did you read their normal amount of days to ship?
[12:25] <Mystic_Portal> ok i need a simple yes or no. Can you install it without a cd or a cd burner?
[12:25] <Angel_Dex> @.@ idk
[12:26] <Angel_Dex> never heard of it myself
[12:26] <tappaja> I cant find tinyerp package, does anyone installed it succesfully?
[12:26] <ompaul> Mystic_Portal, its 4-6 weeks for delivery normally
[12:26] <Angel_Dex> Mystic_Portal if you want we can go private and i can help you create a CD of your own no?
[12:26] <devnull> there seems to be an issue unpacking replacement xfwm4-theme package
[12:26] <devnull> script dies
[12:26] <carthik> devnull, try it again. If you still have issues someone here will help you out with it
[12:27] <kevogod> Mystic_Portal: Do you not have a CDROM player?
[12:27] <Mystic_Portal> I have a floppy disk drive
[12:27] <Mystic_Portal> my cd drive is faulty
[12:28] <Mystic_Portal> angel_dex sure we can go private but i have to leave in a while =(
[12:28] <Angel_Dex> fualty CD drive?
[12:28] <devnull> carthik tried to -f install again .. still same issue ... i can't remove the package by hand ... trying to force insall of the theme package though
[12:28] <gamma> arghh
[12:28] <rambo3> devnull, what packege
[12:28] <Angel_Dex> Mystic_Portal How many CD drives do you have?> and is one a burner?
[12:29] <devnull> rambo3 xfwm4-theme .... seems like the theme is saying needs >=4.3 but 4.2 is going to be installed ... so versioning issue
[12:29] <kevogod> Mystic_Portal: Read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/Netboot?action=show&redirect=NetbootInstall
[12:29] <rambo3> well can you -f install  and ther apt-get remove xfwm4-theme
[12:29] <devnull> xfwm4 removes xfwm4-theme
[12:30] <devnull> cant remove xfwm4-theme ... that is when i get the dep issues
[12:30] <Cueball|Laptop> Hi I'm having some problems compiling on Ubuntu. I get these errors. This on alsa-lib http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11598 and this when I try to compile X-Chat 2.6.2 http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11599 Any way to fix these? Maybe adding some package that I'm missing?
[12:31] <SGershon> When is Dapper Drake expected to release?
[12:31] <devnull> seems like the dep chain is messed up
[12:31] <troytroy> hi has anybody got this ebook learning perl
[12:31] <Siph0n> !dapper
[12:31] <graveson> where can i find good themes,i am trying to make my desktop look more like linux and less like windows
[12:31] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[12:31] <Siph0n> wahoo... i helped someone :)
[12:31] <kevogod> Mystic_Portal: If you do not have a working CDROM drive, I do not think it would be in your capacity to install Ubuntu.
[12:31] <Unknown> Excuse me, i installed my ati driver and it did not work, when configuring the xorg file. I cant get into ubuntu. Now my friend helped me last time and we got same error, btu then he wrote something with "fglrxconfig" or something similar and got to change the configuration and then it worked
[12:31] <Siph0n> assisted by ubotu :)
[12:31] <Unknown> any ideas?
[12:31] <EpP> anyone here have a clamshell ibook
[12:32] <Mystic_Portal> kevogod i am reading and angel is helping me
[12:32] <SGershon> Siph0n, thanks.
[12:32] <jojochen> Apr  6 17:14:32 localhost sudo: (pam_unix) authentication failure; logname= uid=0 euid=0 tty= ruser= rhost=  user=
[12:32] <fusi> Unknown: try: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:32] <kevogod> Unknown: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:32] <SGershon> Siph0n, and I know that feeling of finally knowing an answer...
[12:32] <kevogod> Unknown: sudo aticonfig --initial
[12:32] <Unknown> hmm
[12:33] <Unknown> he wrote something else
[12:33] <Unknown> in 1 word only
[12:33] <kevogod> Unknown: Are you running Dapper or Breezy?
[12:33] <jojochen> thank you folks
[12:33] <Unknown> like fglxconfig
[12:33] <Unknown> kevogod, breezy
[12:33] <Mystic_Portal> which should i get?
[12:33] <jojochen> Breezy
[12:33] <Mystic_Portal> [WWW]  Breezy Netboot Image (i386)
[12:33] <kevogod> Unknown: sudo fglrxconfig
[12:33] <Siph0n> SGershon, yup :)
[12:33] <Mystic_Portal> so get breezy?
[12:33] <kevogod> Mystic_Portal: Yes
[12:34] <bulio_> is the live cd supposed to take a long time to boot up?
[12:34] <Mystic_Portal> the i386 or the amd64?
[12:34] <bulio_> its been sitting 1/2 loaded gnome after 3 minutes
[12:34] <kevogod> Mystic_Portal: i386
[12:34] <oxez> Anyone know how I would add junit (I installed it from the repos), to my java classpath? I installed sun's j2sdk from their website, and I created my own .deb as described in the WIKI
[12:34] <PwcrLinux> bulio_: what the system ram you have now?
[12:34] <maxallen> any idea why wine would tell me gcc can't make executables?
[12:35] <bulio_> 128Mb of ram on the other PC
[12:35] <odat> anyone get sound working in alien arena?
[12:35] <kickfacce> will someone here help me with ndiswrapper when i do a modprobe ndiswrapper i get fatal error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.16-1.2084/misc/ndiswrapper.ko) invalid arguement
[12:35] <jcmcbeth> Anyone know how or where I can get the man pages on c/c++ header fiiles?
[12:35] <kickfacce> I have googled it for about an hour and haven't found a solution yet..
[12:35] <bulio_> PwcrLinux: 128Mb
[12:35] <PwcrLinux> bulio_: I recommend get 256 MB or above cuz the Live requires 128MB to run it..
[12:36] <bulio_> PwcrLinux: will normal ubuntu run fine though?
[12:36] <Mystic_Portal> kevo may i query you?
[12:36] <gamma> synaptic doesn't have the same theme as my other stuff. it's ugly gray.. how do i change that?
[12:36] <bulio_> this machine has 380, but the other only 128
[12:36] <kevogod> Mystic_Portal: Yes, but I do not think I will be of much help.
[12:36] <bulio_> is 128Mb of ram enough for a normal Ubuntu install
[12:37] <PwcrLinux> bulio_: it's slow and CD's reading light too frequently, when the CD dumps into ram holding..
[12:37] <devnull> is there a way to force a version of a program to be installed
[12:37] <jnk> jcmcbeth, there are man pages for functions... what do you want exactly?
[12:37] <krazykit> guh.  so.  i can't make gnome accept that my window manager should be xfwm4, rather than mmetacity.  neither exporting WINDOW_MANAGER in .gnomerc nor editing .gnome2/session work; it simply hangs while trying to start the WM
[12:37] <intuos_pen> hi what's a good WLAN adapter windows driver that will be used under ndiswrapper, is it the drivers for win9x or 2k/xP?
[12:37] <jnk> devnull,  install program=version
[12:37] <devnull> gotcha
[12:37] <bulio_> PwcrLinux: I know, but if I were to install ubuntu, is 128Mb of ram enough?
[12:37] <PwcrLinux> bulio_: You can use "Server mode" to use 64MB
[12:37] <akcom> yes
[12:37] <krazykit> intuos_pen: well, it depends on the card...
[12:37] <jcmcbeth> jnk: I tried like man getpeername and that didn't work.
[12:37] <devnull> okay
[12:38] <jnk> jcmcbeth, it works for me
[12:38] <devnull> hmmm i have some weird dep issues here
[12:38] <akcom> Does anyone know of an application to convert WMV files to another codec type?
[12:38] <bulio_> PwcrLinux: so as a desktop machine, 667mhz cpu and 128mb of ram is fine?
[12:38] <jnk> jcmcbeth, have you installed the corresponding -dev package?
[12:38] <krazykit> akcom: mencoder
[12:38] <jcmcbeth> jnk: I guess not
[12:38] <PwcrLinux> bulio_: yes, you can run as server mode
[12:38] <intuos_pen> krazykit: for an SIS 162 usb WLAN adapter.
[12:39] <jnk> jcmcbeth, install manpages-dev
[12:39] <akcom> ty krazykit
[12:39] <jcmcbeth> jnk: alright, thanks
[12:39] <krazykit> intuos_pen: did you check the ndiswrapper wiki?  it should ahve a direct link and directions
[12:39] <devnull> so i can't install or remove anything ... what do i have to do if i want to install something ?
[12:39] <kickfacce> will someone here help me with ndiswrapper when i do a modprobe ndiswrapper i get fatal error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.16-1.2084/misc/ndiswrapper.ko) invalid arguement
[12:39] <intuos_pen> krazykit: what's the url of ndiswrapper wiki?
[12:39] <akcom> krazykit, that requires that i have the win32codecs installed first, correct?
[12:39] <jcmcbeth> jnk: worked greak, thanks
[12:39] <krazykit> akcom: uh, yeah, probably
[12:40] <akcom> ok, any other alternatives then>
[12:40] <akcom> (I'm on PPC, so I can't install the win32codecs)
[12:40] <krazykit> intuos_pen: iunno.  i assume it'd be linked from the ndiswrapper page
[12:40] <krazykit> akcom: oh, then that's a little trickier :-P
[12:40] <akcom> heh
[12:40] <akcom> any ideas then?
[12:41] <krazykit> akcom: you may want to check the docs, but ffmpeg /might/ do it, but i'm really not sure about it
[12:41] <PwcrLinux> bulio_: mines is a 768 MB, the ubuntu fattened up to 776 MB now
[12:41] <theripper> whats that linux firewall  firecracker or something?
[12:41] <dustpuppy0001> hi all, where do I get the Ubuntu gpg key to verify the LiveCD image? I can't find it on www.ubuntu.com.
[12:41] <akcom> hrm
[12:41] <akcom> k
[12:42] <wvelez> theripper: firestarter
[12:42] <theripper> oh , yeah , thank you
[12:45] <Mystic_Portal> hellp
[12:45] <Mystic_Portal> hello
[12:45] <Mystic_Portal> srry
[12:45] <Xenguy> devnull: what?
[12:45] <TuXPower> hmmm
[12:45] <Xenguy> devnull: oh, nm
[12:45] <TuXPower> hi
[12:45] <devnull> hmm
[12:46] <devnull> having an issue with apt-get -f install   http://channels.debian.net/paste/2319
[12:46] <akcom> Does anyone know of a way to convert WMV files without the win32codecs package?
[12:46] <TuXPower> ok
[12:46] <oxez> Anyone know how I would add junit (I installed it from the repos), to my java classpath? I installed sun's j2sdk from their website, and I created my own .deb  as described in the WIKI.
[12:47] <occ|quad> hey, I'm having problems installing ubuntu-artwork. it says: no theme index file in '/usr/share/icons/default'. yaddayadda error exit status 1
[12:47] <squiddle_drunk> oxez always or just for one occasion?
[12:47] <oxez> squiddle_drunk, always
[12:47] <occ|quad> anybody can help me? since it is a dependency for some other things
[12:48] <oxez> squiddle_drunk, I have to write unit tests for my school projects
[12:48] <squiddle_drunk> oxez  put in your .bashrc "export CLASSPATH=/path/to/the/junit.jar:$CLASSPATH"
[12:48] <oxez> squiddle_drunk, I found junit .jar at: /usr/share/ant/lib/junit.jar
[12:49] <oxez> squiddle_drunk, alright. I thought there was a specific config file for that heh, thank you
[12:50] <oxez> squiddle_drunk, of course, it worked! Thanks again
[12:50] <squiddle_drunk> oxez  you're welcome
[12:51] <riddlebox> does anyone use easyubuntu?
[12:52] <odat> anyone get sound working in alien arena?
[12:52] <Marticus> hrm
[12:53] <Marticus> why would base-config crash when it get's to downloading libmysqlclient?
[12:53] <Marticus> each time, the screen gets colorful and then it hangs
[12:54] <jbolduan> Hello fellow ubuntuers
[12:54] <carthik> devnull, try $sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /usr/share/themes/Opta/xfwm4/README
[12:54] <carthik> devnull, let me know if that works after
[12:55] <UbuntuNewbie> hello everyone
[12:55] <krazykit> hell
[12:55] <krazykit> err
[12:55] <krazykit> hello
[12:55] <squiddle_drunk> rofl
[12:55] <krazykit> stupid keyboard.
[12:55] <krazykit> i typed on the wrong keyboard the first time.
[12:55] <squiddle_drunk> summary: jesusxp joins hell
[12:55] <jesusxp> hey guys! Is there a way to set yourself to be able to have su priv's (like creating dirs and stuff in /usr/local) with your regular login?
[12:55] <Vektram> i've got an interesting problem: my server doesn't seem to be letting anyone access it, besides itself, the other computer on the network cant ssh/telnet it at all, no idea what to do
[12:55] <jesusxp> :P
[12:56] <squiddle_drunk> jesusxp  yes
[12:56] <carthik> !tell JesusXP about root
[12:56] <squiddle_drunk> jesusxp  but most likely you do not want this :o
[12:56] <JesusXP> ok..
[12:56] <krazykit> jesusxp: what's wrong with using sudo?  or... just use sudo su to get root privelages in a terminal
[12:56] <JesusXP> carthik, thanks, but I was using sudo -i before
[12:57] <JesusXP> Its just I use make alot and sometimes I need to go into sudo -i and set my path everytime
[12:57] <Vektram> and it has been working before... just now it's dead
[12:57] <JesusXP> how can you setup sudo -i 's path ?
[12:57] <Marticus> what is -i?
[12:57] <arrick> ok guys, I installed xubuntu-desktop on my dinosaur server, and when I 'sudo startx' or even 'startx' I get an error messange thats says "xinit: connection to X server lost" "xauth: error in locking authority file /home/arrick/.Xauthority
[12:57] <jbolduan> whats the command for those GLGEARS or whatever...
[12:57] <JesusXP> i dunno... thats what i've been doin
[12:57] <squiddle_drunk> JesusXP  just use sudo or fakeroot or build your stuff in your home
[12:57] <JesusXP> sudo -i
[12:57] <Marticus> I use 'sudo su -'
[12:57] <krazykit> i just use su -
[12:58] <krazykit> security issues be damned.
[12:58] <JesusXP> i have installed a devkit for PSP, everything is in /usr/local/
[12:58] <carthik> JesusXP, just like you did for yourself, this time, edit .bashrc in /root/
[12:58] <Marticus> heh
[12:58] <Marticus> even before ubuntu, I was never fond of using root user
[12:58] <Cooner750> What do I do when I have to Force Quit firefox and it wont reopen because it says it's already running but not responding?. Does Ubuntu have any 'task manager' like Windows?
[12:58] <carthik> jbolduan, glxgears
[12:58] <dustpuppy0001> hi, where can I find the Ubuntu gpg key to verify the LiveCD MD5sum?
[12:59] <Vektram> Cooner: ps --help
[12:59] <krazykit> oh, i never log in as root.  that's just dumb.  i only use it in a terminal if i'm gonna do a bunch of stuff as root
[12:59] <carthik> Cooner750, $ps aux |grep firefox (then note the pid number). Then $kill -9 pid-number
[12:59] <JesusXP> merci.
[12:59] <carthik> JesusXP, np
[12:59] <ompaul> krazykit, personally what you do in your own machine is your business but in this channel please refer to RootSudo as the policy that is encouraged here
[12:59] <squiddle_drunk> Cooner750  in a console you can do killall firefox-bin
[12:59] <UbuntuNewbie> anyone knows where the boot grub configuration program at
[01:00] <JesusXP> see ya'll later :)
[01:00] <arrick> ok guys, I installed xubuntu-desktop on my dinosaur server, and when I 'sudo startx' or even 'startx' I get an error messange thats says "xinit: connection to X server lost" "xauth: error in locking authority file /home/arrick/.Xauthority _jason, IdleOne Bambino bliss1_ nickgarvey  can anyone help?
[01:00] <darkhorizon> what's the name of the app which handles window titlebars in kde?
[01:00] <darkhorizon> kde-window-decorator?
[01:00] <Christopher> im still haveing trouble with installing firefox
[01:00] <Christopher> can someone help
[01:00] <jnk> dark, kwin ?
[01:00] <carthik> darkhorizon, try in #kubuntu for better results
[01:00] <ompaul> !stable
[01:00] <ubotu> Packages do not need to be the latest versions if you patch them for security and other bugs. That is most likely why the version number is older than you might imagine.
[01:00] <Vektram> little question: I've just gone to Applications > System Tools > Network Tools and my Network Device is set to lo intead of eth0 should this be?
[01:01] <GranMaestro> Hi anybody here tested live cd dapper flight 6 for ppc?
[01:01] <squiddle_drunk> darkhorizon  yes under compiz otherwise kwin
[01:01] <krazykit> Christopher: what version?
[01:01] <darkhorizon> christopher, sure, pm me
[01:01] <darkhorizon> sure thanks carthik
[01:01] <UbuntuNewbie> which firefox version you are having problem with
[01:01] <ompaul> GranMaestro, please talk in #ubuntu+1 about dapper that is its channel
[01:01] <GranMaestro> OK thanks ompaul :)
[01:01] <PwcrLinux-Busy> Cooner750: in the terminal box and type ps -x to see which the program running stuck then kill PID
[01:02] <Christopher> the current version is the one im trying to install
[01:02] <trygve> err, s/macboot/bootcamp/
[01:02] <Christopher> I dont know how to install anything and I need help
[01:03] <krazykit> trygve: do you really need it?  EFI is in the kernel, currently
[01:03] <Christopher> yes i really need it
[01:03] <Christopher> and i also need to learn how to install applications
[01:03] <arrick> hey guys I am trying to get the static ip assigned through terminal, someone gave me a link to set up static dns, and thats not what I want, can someone tell me what /etc/network/interfaces should look lik on static IP?
[01:04] <trygve> do I need to run linux on my macbook?  of course not, but that doesn't mean it wouldn't be nice
[01:04] <trygve> and ubuntu supports the current gen ppc systems, so why wouldn't they want to try to support the new intel macs as well
[01:04] <carthik> !tell Christopher about firefox1.5
[01:04] <squiddle_drunk> trygve  the question was if you need bootcamp
[01:04] <ompaul> Christopher, that is two seperate things, I will have the bot msg you about installing software it will also contain other info but when you say current version what do you mean in terms of numbers for firefox?
[01:05] <trygve> oh, sorry, my bad
[01:05] <TheFuzzball> hello, I am having some problems with administrating...
[01:05] <Christopher> I know, I saw that site but im having trouble understanding how to do it.
[01:05] <trygve> I'm pretty sure I would need bootcamp if I want to dual boot
[01:05] <Christopher> I need a human to help me
[01:05] <trygve> but I could be mistaken
[01:06] <Christopher> I have 1.0.7
[01:06] <bimberi> arrick: here's mine - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11638
[01:06] <Marticus> yay for installation troubles
[01:06] <carthik> Christopher: here is what it all boils down to: Ubuntu uses a "system" to download+install+configure+maintain+update software on your computer. The instruction tell youhow to circumvent this and install the latest version of firefox. To install normal apps, use synaptic, and till you are more familiar stick with that, if you want less trouble
[01:07] <TheFuzzball> I don't want everyone to be able to sudo, so I went into /etc/sudoers and had a look and it said, # User privilege specification
[01:07] <TheFuzzball> root    ALL=(ALL) ALL
[01:07] <TheFuzzball> system  ALL=(ALL) ALL
[01:07] <TheFuzzball> , what do I do to get it to ask for a password for sudo?
[01:07] <Marticus> I managed to get X working, but aparently that isn't what was causing the freezes
[01:07] <UbuntuNewbie> is Remote Desktop program safe to use
[01:07] <Marticus> I have no idea where to start looking to find out what is freezing the system
[01:07] <Christopher> ok
[01:07] <trygve> plus, I haven't yet heard of anybody being able to install anything other than XP SP 2 (and OS X, of course) on an intel mac
[01:07] <Christopher>  thanks
[01:07] <Christopher> do you have aim or msn
[01:07] <Christopher> in case i ever need to talk to you?
[01:08] <carthik> Christopher, are you talking to me?
[01:08] <_glyph> hello
[01:08] <trygve> Christopher: just come back to #ubuntu
[01:08] <Christopher> ok
[01:08] <Christopher> yes
[01:08] <PwcrLinux> Marticus: it's risky for desktop remote, if you keep DR open and then port would stay open, someone would hack your puter..
[01:08] <Christopher> carthik
[01:08] <trygve> asking somebody you barely know to be your personal tech support is just plain bad netiquette =)
[01:08] <Christopher> i was talking to you
[01:08] <arrick> thanks bimberi
[01:09] <ompaul> Christopher, Click on: System -> Administration -> Synaptic Package Manager, and you can install any program that is available to you at the moment, to increase that you need to read the web page http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto or maybe this http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic either way they are web pages that work for anyone that follows them from start to finish
[01:09] <arrick> how do I restart ssh bimberi
[01:09] <arrick> ?
[01:09] <carthik> Christopher, join the channel #psasi by typing "/join #psasi"
[01:09] <_glyph> i got a quick question i have a Sound Blaster Live! 24-bit but ALSA says it is a SB Adudgy(cant spell) so i have no sound how do i fix this?
[01:09] <th0un> EVERYONE: Does anyone have the D-link DWL-AG660 ???
[01:09] <ompaul> !anyone
[01:09] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[01:10] <arrick> th0un, what is your question?
[01:10] <bimberi> arrick: np :)
[01:10] <vdepizzol> how I install fluxbox in my ubuntu without internet access?
[01:10] <bimberi> arrick: sudo invoke-rc.d ssh restart
[01:10] <ompaul> _glyph, start alsamixer and unmute your sound system - that is what is wrong
[01:10] <Determinist> ok, i have a package, i need to install it, when i use dpkg -i <package name> it spits out a bunch of errors about unmet dependencies. is there a way to install the package and and neccesary depedencies somehow?
[01:10] <_glyph> it wount unmute
[01:10] <ompaul> _glyph, start alsamixer in a terminal
[01:10] <th0un> arrick: I was wondering if the card is compatible with packet injection - A small sheet metal business asked me to test their network security so I need to get some hardware - wondering which PCMCIA card is the best (has to support A+G)
[01:11] <ompaul> _glyph, with the letter m it will
[01:11] <carthik> devnull, did what I tell you earlier work out fine?
[01:11] <Christopher> ok
[01:11] <_glyph> sudo start alsamixer?
[01:11] <squiddle_drunk> vdepizzol  go to packages.ubuntu.com search for fluxbox, get all dependencies and the fluxbox .deb, copy to your networkless machine and install em with dpkg -i
[01:11] <arrick> th0un, stick with a orinco card
[01:11] <hyphenated> Determinist: dpkg is a really low-level interface to the packages. you should normally use apt-get or some other higher-level interface that handles dependencies automagically
[01:11] <ompaul> _glyph, no what I said, alsamixer, on its own it is a userland tool
[01:11] <_glyph> ok
[01:12] <TuXPower> you can also use dpkg -i --force-overwrite
[01:12] <Determinist> hyphenated, yes, but can i tell apt-get or whatever to install a local package that's not on a repository?
[01:12] <TuXPower> this install a package
[01:12] <arrick> th0un, you can pick them up cheap on eBay
[01:12] <TuXPower> without checking dependencies
[01:12] <th0un> arrick: alright, any west coast chains (such as FRY's) sell em?
[01:12] <amonkey> i apt-geted k3b, and later amarok was having issues so i restarted. now after i log in, i'm shown a brown screen for about 5 seconds before it bumps me back to the login screen. no error messages.
[01:12] <arrick> yeah frys has everything
[01:12] <th0un> kk
[01:12] <Determinist> TuXPower, well, that wont be very smart assuming the dependencies were there for a reason
[01:12] <th0un> thanks
[01:13] <arrick> np :-)
[01:13] <arrick> hey bimberi I just got an error one the dns name
[01:13] <TuXPower> ok
[01:13] <arrick> any suggestion?
[01:13] <vdepizzol> who desktop environment I shoud use in my old computer Celeron 500mhz, with 64mb SdRam?
[01:13] <arrick> can you join #arrick?
[01:13] <TuXPower> try first apt-get -f install
[01:13] <arrick> bimberi, ^^
[01:14] <_glyph> thanks just tryed to blow my speakers tho didnt knotice it was turned up all the way
[01:14] <Determinist> TuXPower, k
[01:14] <Determinist> TuXPower, that just removed the package
[01:14] <Determinist> TuXPower, not sure if that's what i need done :)
[01:14] <carthik> Determinist, the unmet dependencies are beacuse you are using a .deb from a non-ubuntu source. please do not install that .deb
[01:15] <_glyph> now im not geting audio from my CD-ROM
[01:15] <carthik> Determinist, it requires you to have versions of software that are not the same as the latest ones Ubuntu provides
[01:15] <Determinist> carthik, uh huh. i'm trying to install the latest gnome-commander, it has an ubuntu package. an old version is on the repositories but it's too... old
[01:16] <carthik> Determinist, a version for breezy or dapper or warty? well , it depends what release the ubuntu package was packages for
[01:16] <Determinist> that... i cannot tell
[01:17] <carthik> Determinist, i am sure the messages you get are like requires> 1.3.2 but installed version is 1.2.3 or somesuch, right?
[01:17] <Determinist> carthik, let me see
[01:17] <_glyph> any ideas the cable to my sound card is connected
[01:18] <Tarelerulz> Is ubuntu good for duel booting its and say xp and other linux on different hard drive?
[01:18] <IdleOne> !dualboot
[01:18] <ubotu> for wintel https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo :for the Mac https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[01:18] <osotogari> 'lo all, I am wondering can anyone help me with a sound card issue that I am having with Ubuntu Breezy 5.10. My sound card seems to be detected when i type lspci but I am receiving an error message when I try to open a volume control "The volume control did not find any elements and/or devices to control. This means either that you don't have the right GStreamer plugins installed, or that you don't have a sound card configured"
[01:18] <Determinist> carthik, actually, *all* of the packages this package depends on are of later versions than the one i have installed on this system
[01:18] <vdepizzol> who desktop environment I shoud use in my old computer Celeron 500mhz, with 64mb SdRam?
[01:18] <Belkrem> this is a very annoying problem my lan card works for about 2 seconds after boot than i lose internet
[01:18] <IdleOne> !gstreamer
[01:18] <ubotu> IdleOne: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:19] <mue1> vdepizzol: I'd use fluxbox
[01:19] <IdleOne> vdepizzol, xfce4
[01:19] <carthik> Determinist, so there! that means you are trying to install a ubuntu .deb made for a newer release of ubuntu. Please don't force that into installing :)
[01:19] <_glyph> can enlightenment be apted?
[01:19] <mue1> xfce is a bit too heavy for that little ram
[01:19] <carthik> vdepizzol, take your pick, try xfce or fluxbox....
[01:19] <squiddle_drunk> vdepizzol  fluxbox or openbox
[01:19] <PwcrLinux> vdepizzol: you need to put the 128 or above if it's says 128 uses a server-mode or 256 above just normal booting up and you'll get GUI style..
[01:19] <Determinist> carthik, :/ can i compile it from source tho?
[01:20] <jason_> hello all, this channel has been very helpful in getting my first linus install up today. THANKS!  I downloaded americasarmy, was unimpressed, and was looking for suggestions of an online game for linux that is free and fun...
[01:20] <carthik> Determinist, if you feel up to it, sure
[01:20] <krollian> does anyone have an easy way to update x windows?
[01:20] <Determinist> carthik, well, with some guidance, i'm sure that should not be too hard.
[01:20] <Jae686> jason, try RTCW : ET
[01:20] <jason_> RTCW  ET ??
[01:20] <carthik> Determinist, i can't say it is a great idea though. I am not discouraging you, but if you have someone beside you that knows better it is not hard. It is hard to guide you over this medium
[01:20] <squiddle_drunk> krollian  what is wrong with apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[01:20] <squiddle_drunk> ?
[01:20] <Jae686> Return to Castle Woflestein : Enemy Territory
[01:21] <Determinist> carthik, yes, i understand that. i think i'll still give it a shot, can always give up i guess :)
[01:21] <jason_> iis it a mmo?
[01:21] <carthik> Determinist, even the latest source will require newer versions of the other dependencies...
[01:21] <amonkey> is it true that higher end (hw mixing) sound cards can be opened up more than once concurrently with oss?
[01:21] <squiddle_drunk> amonkey  ye
[01:22] <squiddle_drunk> amonkey  yes
[01:22] <Determinist> carthik, well, i'll hope not.
[01:22] <krollian> I installed Ubuntu 5.10, but the it doesn't get my video card.  Thought I might need to upgrade x windows.  Is there an easy way?
[01:22] <amonkey> squiddle_drunk, is there a list of these cards anywhere?
[01:22] <simonpca> a+
[01:22] <kh4nh> hi guys
[01:22] <krollian> I don't understand the instructions I found
[01:23] <kh4nh> pkg-config could not find my gtk+-2.0, how do i manually add the path
[01:23] <carthik> krollian, could you try the dapper flight 6 livecd to see if that works? it might be supported in the latest version
[01:23] <mue1> krollian: autodetecting just probably didn't get it
[01:23] <squiddle_drunk> amonkey i dunno, but even if your card doesn't support it, there is a good chance that alsa dmix + oss emulation will do the trick too
[01:23] <Determinist> carthik, you were right.
[01:23] <mue1> krollian: just reconfigure your x-server
[01:23] <squiddle_drunk> amonkey  SB live 128 and newer all habe HW mixing
[01:23] <krollian> huh? gibberish
[01:23] <amonkey> squiddle_drunk, i just got a sb live :), second hand, how do i tell if it's 128?
[01:24] <kh4nh> pkg-config could not find my gtk+-2.0, how do i manually add the path
[01:24] <mue1> krollian: most probably your settings are just wrong
[01:24] <krollian> carthik, what's flight 6
[01:24] <alnr> anyone familiar with the eclipse package, i tried apt-getting eclipse but got 'couldnt find'
[01:24] <mue1> krollian: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:24] <krollian> I don't know how to change settings
[01:24] <osotogari> anyone able to help with my question above?
[01:24] <kh4nh> can anyone help me
[01:24] <mue1> krollian: what video hardware do you have?
[01:24] <carthik> krollian, the latest testing release. just like 5.10 but th next release's latest testing cd
[01:24] <krollian> X800 gto -- radeon
[01:24] <squiddle_drunk> amonkey  dunno :) my sb live says live! in lspci
[01:24] <bimberi> !eclipse
[01:24] <ubotu> to install eclipse please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EclipseIDE
[01:24] <carthik> osotogari, always repeat the question when in doubt :)
[01:25] <bimberi> alnr: ^^^^^
[01:25] <squiddle_drunk> squiddle_drunk  most likely your card will do it :)
[01:25] <alnr> bimberi: thank you!
[01:25] <krollian> I'm having trouble following you guys
[01:25] <bimberi> alnr: yw :)
[01:25] <mue1> krollian: do you need hardware acceleration?
[01:25] <krollian> don't know linux
[01:25] <kh4nh> pkg-config could not find my gtk+-2.0, how do i manually add the path
[01:25] <krollian> I don't know what I need
[01:25] <osotogari> @ carthik: 'lo all, I am wondering can anyone help me with a sound card issue that I am having with Ubuntu Breezy 5.10. My sound card seems to be detected when i type lspci but I am receiving an error message when I try to open a volume control "The volume control did not find any elements and/or devices to control. This means either that you don't have the right GStreamer plugins installed, or that you don't have a sound card co
[01:25] <osotogari> nfigured"
[01:25] <mue1> krollian: 2d garphics works fine without it
[01:25] <carthik> osotogari, wha sound card is this?
[01:26] <amonkey> squiddle_drunk, how do i remove all the alsa-oss emulation, esd and what not now that i don't need it?
[01:26] <mue1> krollian: 3d graphics may be a bit tricky with your card
[01:26] <osotogari> Herculeus Muse XL
[01:26] <krollian> I can't get it to boot at all.  says I need to configure something
[01:26] <squiddle_drunk> amonkey  remove it with apt
[01:26] <mue1> krollian: I believe you can get into text mode
[01:27] <krollian> I just don't know that text stuff
[01:27] <squiddle_drunk> amonkey  my sb live is not on ubuntu so i do not know exactly :)
[01:27] <PwcrLinux> krollian: try boot command  vga=771 if it's work
[01:27] <mue1> krollian: yes, but it's good to learn
[01:27] <krollian> how do I do that?
[01:27] <amonkey> squiddle_drunk, thanks for your time
[01:27] <mue1> krollian: I don't think that'll work
[01:27] <mue1> the vga thing
[01:28] <mue1> the problem is in the x server
[01:28] <Cooner750> Is there a program for linux capable of making charts like Box-Whisker plots and scatter plots?
[01:28] <krollian> I sure can't learn linux from watching this room
[01:28] <alnr> i get no-package for eclipse-jdt. i guess because i'm running hoary. can I get around it w/o fully upgrading to breezy?
[01:28] <got2b3d> I get a seg fault using 3d apps like glxgears and blender
[01:28] <mue1> krollian: put the following command to the text prompt
[01:28] <theripper> omg ktorrent suck big time
[01:28] <mue1> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:29] <mue1> it starts a program that creates a new x config
[01:29] <mue1> you need to answer simple questions
[01:29] <kh4nh> pkg-config could not find my gtk+-2.0, how do i manually add the path
[01:29] <_glyph> I'm getting a error that states that i need to check if my sound card is configured proplery, correct output pluging selecte and that no other program is blcking the soundcard what do i do?
[01:29] <krollian> where's the text prompt thing?
[01:29] <mue1> if you don't know the answer, give it the default
[01:29] <deezenutz> reboot
[01:29] <mue1> it's where you put commands
[01:30] <Cueball|Laptop> Hi I'm having some problems compiling on Ubuntu. I get these errors. This on alsa-lib http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11598 and this when I try to compile X-Chat 2.6.2 http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11599 Any way to fix these? Maybe adding some package that I'm missing?
[01:30] <Determinist> how do i run a command again?
[01:30] <krollian> is this funny to you yet? It is to me.  Where do you put commands?
[01:30] <mue1> there is somehing like: krollian@ubuntu:~$
[01:30] <Determinist> f12 + what?
[01:30] <mue1> you just write it in text mode and press enter
[01:30] <alnr> dare i type in apt-get dist-upgrade on a hoary system ? (to get to breezy)
[01:30] <mue1> it's that easy
[01:30] <_glyph> deezenutz, were you telling me to reboot?
[01:31] <carthik> osotogari, searching on google reveals that that is a problem soundcard
[01:31] <Cueball|Laptop> alnr, I did the other day.
[01:31] <mue1> krollian: did you get it?
[01:31] <krollian> mue1, would you talk to me on a different messenger?
[01:31] <jason_> are there any fun apps that are a must for ubuntu?  if so, where?
[01:31] <ompaul> alnr, as long as you have not gone off around the world installing mad software from all over the place
[01:31] <hyphenated> alnr: it's what I did, after changing sources.list properly
[01:31] <osotogari> @ carthik: So my best bet is to buy a new one?
[01:31] <mue1> just write the command and press enter
[01:31] <alnr> Cueball|Laptop: go smoothly? I'm not even really running x
[01:31] <ompaul> jason_, search for games in synaptic
[01:31] <mue1> krollian: yes
[01:31] <jason_> do i need a virus / rootkit scanner?
[01:31] <got2b3d> why would glxgears cause a segmentation fault?
[01:32] <Cueball|Laptop> alnr yeah very smooth.
[01:32] <krollian> psykroll@yahoo.com
[01:32] <carthik> osotogari, I am not a sound expert :) you could try asking about your card again.
[01:32] <alnr> ok, ompaul hyphenated Cueball|Laptop i will draw courage from you. thanks
[01:32] <hyphenated> jason_: you can install one if you like, but if you aren't running any server services, your chances of getting hit are really small
[01:32] <osotogari> @ carthik: Ok dude, thanks for your time :)
[01:32] <mue1> krollian: I don't have a yahoo account...
[01:32] <krollian> ok, pick one
[01:33] <carthik> osotogari, not at all
[01:33] <krollian> msn, google, aim
[01:33] <mue1> msn
[01:33] <krollian> same username @hotmail.
[01:33] <ompaul> alnr, okay before you do consider backing up your software, and having a breezy live or install cd to hand
[01:33] <sonic> ahh, can anyone help me change my keyboard language
[01:35] <ompaul> sonic, system - preferences - keyboard
[01:35] <PwcrLinux> sonic: System>Keyboard
[01:35] <alnr> ompaul:  :)
[01:35] <PwcrLinux> Oops see ompaul's
[01:35] <Cueball|Laptop> Backup? What's that? :P
[01:35] <sonic> lol
[01:35] <sonic> thanks alot
[01:35] <PwcrLinux> :)
[01:38] <alnr> eh its just an vmware ubuntu client which wouldnt kill me if it messed up. give me a chance to try ms virtual thingy
[01:38] <got2b3d> seg fault on glxgears...
[01:38] <ompaul> alnr, well if that is that case then do 5.10 and dapper after next week
[01:38] <Neurosis_> how may i set up dual monitor on ubuntu after hooking it up?
[01:38] <got2b3d> seg fault on my brain
[01:38] <Neurosis_> lol
[01:39] <pulgoki> damn, dapper is the new version of ubuntu?
[01:39] <jcole> i installed apache2 and tried to share my downloaded ubuntu dvd... i'm getting "Value too large for defined data type" in my error.log... how do i make apache2 share large files?
[01:39] <Matthewv> !dapper
[01:39] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[01:39] <duelboot> okay, does anyone know what the following means, and what I need to do to get rid of it (WARNING 2.5 lines)
[01:40] <duelboot> Warning: Driver for device wlan0 recommend version 18 of Wireless Extension,
[01:40] <duelboot> but has been compiled with version 17, therefore some driver features
[01:40] <duelboot> may not be available...
[01:41] <bimberi> !tell arrick about xhangs
[01:41] <pulgoki> so how do i ask the bot questions myself? specificly how to install kde
[01:41] <arrick> ok
[01:41] <fiendskull9> im installing dapper tonight
[01:41] <fiendskull9> will the grub installer find my other ubuntu partition automatically?
[01:41] <jnk> pulgoki, take the bot in private and type "kde" for example
[01:42] <pulgoki> thanks
[01:42] <duelboot> pulgoki, you can install kubuntu-desktop if you already have ubuntu, logout and you'll have the option to use KDE
[01:42] <PwcrLinux> !tell pulgoki about install KDE
[01:42] <carthik> fiendskull9, yes it did for me
[01:42] <fiendskull9> ight CablDWRK
[01:42] <fiendskull9> lol
[01:42] <fiendskull9> carthik, thanks
[01:43] <pulgoki> haha
[01:43] <pulgoki> i like how it say's (i "GUESS" kde is a powerfull desktop)
[01:43] <pulgoki> haha
[01:43] <fiendskull9> i dislike kde
[01:43] <fiendskull9> it feels closed in
[01:44] <pulgoki> yea
[01:44] <pulgoki> i havent really messed with it much
[01:44] <void^> it's highly configurable; all it closes in is a chunk of your ram.
[01:44] <pulgoki> but it has nicer look to it
[01:44] <fiendskull9> yeah
[01:44] <fiendskull9> well
[01:44] <pulgoki> i dont know which i would like more
[01:44] <pulgoki> i like gnome fine
[01:44] <jnk> the number one reason I don't use kde is the look
[01:44] <fiendskull9> i installed suse, and it doesnt like gnome (hard to install)
[01:44] <fiendskull9> and i hated it
[01:44] <jnk> at first I thought "wow really nice"
[01:44] <pulgoki> jnk: there is allot more you can do with the look of kde
[01:45] <pulgoki> if you dont like it, change it
[01:45] <jnk> but after some hours I just feel... like tired
[01:45] <pulgoki> gnome seems more limited
[01:45] <pulgoki> as far as eye candy anyway
[01:45] <fiendskull9> yeah
[01:45] <fiendskull9> KDE has a great look
[01:45] <pulgoki> they both have decent appz
[01:45] <jnk> pulgoki, it is, but I don't care: what I would like to change in kde, I cannot, so...
[01:45] <pulgoki> so ???
[01:45] <pulgoki> yea
[01:45] <krazykit> so don't use kde?
[01:45] <pulgoki> i'll have to play with that
[01:45] <jnk> krazykit, yep
[01:45] <pulgoki> and see if i like it
[01:46] <PwcrLinux> oops
[01:46] <pulgoki> i may feel the same and go back to gnome
[01:46] <jnk> I think there's something wrong with font spacing in kde
[01:46] <PwcrLinux> prvmsg stuck, can't close it..
[01:46] <fiendskull9> pulgoki, i have gnome, and it looks nice. i just replaced the icons and controls and such. you can acheive a nice look.
[01:46] <jnk> well, with spacing in general, between labels, etc
[01:46] <ubuntu> hi
[01:46] <krazykit> i'd suggest replacing metacity, as well, with something like e16 or xfwm4
[01:47] <PwcrLinux> bbl
[01:47] <ubuntu> I have a dmg image i need to burn in linux. How do i do it and will it still be bootable.
[01:47] <T-CAN> how do people usually dual boot linux?
[01:47] <pulgoki> fiendskull9: i like the calendar and system monitors that are see through you can add in kde
[01:47] <fiendskull9> yes
[01:47] <iGotNoTime> Can someone please advice me to soundcard settings?
[01:47] <jnk> T-CAN, using grub
[01:47] <pulgoki> i like the transparent looks
[01:47] <fiendskull9> i give them a hand for very very nice eye candy
[01:48] <arrick> !pastebin
[01:48] <ubotu> [pastebin]  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[01:48] <pulgoki> is it as stable as gnomre?
[01:48] <pulgoki> gnome even
[01:48] <iGotNoTime> I have a USB headset and it is not in my default sound card options
[01:48] <pulgoki> thats my only worry
[01:48] <fiendskull9> pulgoki, well, how much ram do u have?
[01:48] <pulgoki> fiendskull9: a gig
[01:48] <T-CAN> ubuntu live doesnt support hardware detection right?
[01:48] <fiendskull9> pulgoki, then itll be fine, just dont get any betas.
[01:48] <fiendskull9> T-CAN, it does
[01:49] <pulgoki> fiendskull9: i originally built the computer for running cad systems for work
[01:49] <T-CAN> cause I am in Live right now, and none of my internal hard drives are showing up
[01:49] <crimsun> iGotNoTime: is it plugged in?
[01:49] <iGotNoTime> LOL
[01:49] <pulgoki> but now i work on the road from a laptop
[01:49] <pulgoki> so i can play now
[01:49] <iGotNoTime> crimsun, yes :)
[01:49] <fiendskull9> pulgoki, yeah, you need alot of ram to be productive in kde. it uses about 320mb without doing anything, just idling.
[01:49] <krazykit> T-CAN: SATA controllers?
[01:49] <Ethernet> i have a question. I installed ubuntu today (i had windows) and i installed it on C:. I saved some files on D: and went installing. But now i dont know where the files are and i cant see how much gigabyte i have left (properties) o.O can someone help me?
[01:49] <crimsun> iGotNoTime: pastebin ``cat /proc/asound/cards''
[01:50] <pulgoki> fiendskull9: doesnt windows too?? :P
[01:50] <fiendskull9> pulgoki, lol
[01:50] <arrick> guys I get the following when trying to start xubunt-desktop on my server, and the screen goes blank, any help would be great;y appreciated. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11643
[01:50] <iGotNoTime> kk
[01:50] <pulgoki> haha
[01:50] <fiendskull9> pulgoki, i use a Windows XP Bone edition.
[01:50] <arrick> fiendskull9, how are you this evening
[01:50] <pulgoki> I run xp on my laptop
[01:50] <fiendskull9> arrick, im good
[01:50] <fiendskull9> arrick, getgting ready to install dapper flight 6 :)
[01:50] <krazykit> Ethernet: *nix doesn't use driver letters like you're used to.  depening on what filesystems you have, you may have to manually add it to you fstab.  i think if your second drive/partition is NTFS, you'll have to do it by hand
[01:51] <amonkey> how can i see what's using /dev/dsp?
[01:51] <crimsun> amonkey: lsof /dev/dsp*
[01:51] <Ethernet> ok ty krazy
[01:51] <T-CAN>  krazykit: what about sata controllers?
[01:52] <occ|quad> Ethernet, if your C and D were 2 different physical hard disks, then your files are still there, if it was 1 harddisk with 2 partitions, they are most likely gone. If your D drive used fat32 for filesystem before you can access it in Ubuntu, if it used NTFS for filesystem, you can't access it in ubuntu
[01:52] <amonkey> if you have hw mixing, is there any reason to have esd/alsa?
[01:52] <krazykit> T-CAN: are your internal drives SATA?  if so, support can be hit and miss. if they're ide... *shrug*
[01:52] <crimsun> amonkey: you need alsa, but esd is unnecessary.
[01:53] <jason_> it seems i can access my usb ntfs drive no prob (read only) but not my ide drive?
[01:53] <iGotNoTime> crimsun, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11644
[01:53] <iGotNoTime> crimsun, that is the onboard sound which is working
[01:53] <T-CAN> ya, theyre IDE
[01:54] <T-CAN> krazykit: so if I install linux, I would have to investigate this further?
[01:54] <crimsun> iGotNoTime: looks fine. Your usb device doesn't appear at all. Are you running a default Ubuntu kernel, or have you attempted to compile ALSA manually?
[01:54] <iGotNoTime> crimsun, default
[01:54] <crimsun> iGotNoTime: what usb sound device are you attempting to use?
[01:54] <iGotNoTime> crimsun, is there something I should download ?  Logitech USB headset
[01:54] <sirius_> slackware-es@irc.freenode.net
[01:54] <tonyyarusso> T-CAN: Haven't been following, but might have some input - could you give me a really quick rundown of what you're asking about?
[01:55] <crimsun> iGotNoTime: try unplugging it and plugging it back in
[01:55] <crimsun> iGotNoTime: (was it plugged in when Ubuntu booted?)
[01:55] <carthik> osotogari around?
[01:55] <intuos_pen> now that my usb wireless adapter can now be seen by my pc thru an ndiswrapper, what's next? should i treat it like just another network device? what if the network configuration tool do not recognize it?
[01:55] <iGotNoTime> no it wasn't crimsun
[01:55] <T-CAN> im just running the Live cd to get a feel for unbuntu, none of my internal IDE hard drives are showing up, wondering if I would have to fix that if I decide to install ubuntu
[01:55] <ubuntu> how do i mount my ntfs system?
[01:55] <crimsun> iGotNoTime: are any usb devices recognized?
[01:55] <carthik> !tell ubuntu about ntfs
[01:55] <iGotNoTime> crimsun, cat /proc/asound/cards
[01:55] <iGotNoTime>  is unchanged after unplugging and plugging back in
[01:56] <crimsun> iGotNoTime: that's fine
[01:56] <iGotNoTime> yes crimsun, many are
[01:56] <tonyyarusso> T-CAN: Showing up meaning they don't exist in /dev/ or aren't mounted?
[01:56] <T-CAN> dont exist in /dev/
[01:56] <crimsun> iGotNoTime: that sound device doesn't happen to be plugged into a hub, does iT?
[01:56] <mlask> hi there! how can i remove some ugly package when even "apt-get remove --force-yes --purge" doesn't work?
[01:56] <iGotNoTime> crimsun, yes the keyboard, but I will try the motherboard
[01:57] <mlask> what is the magic command?
[01:57] <crimsun> iGotNoTime: it won't work through a hub device.
[01:57] <tonyyarusso> T-CAN: Hmm, that is odd.  Breezy?  Have you seen what Dapper does?  (I have and IDE drive but it appears as SATA b/c of the controller, and it works, if that's of comfort.)
[01:57] <iGotNoTime> on motherboard still cat /proc/asound/cards
[01:57] <iGotNoTime>  is unchanged :(
[01:57] <theripper> i dont understand how to enable universe in kde, can somone explain plz?
[01:57] <carthik> !tell theripper about universe
[01:57] <iGotNoTime> do I need to reinstall ALSA crimsun ?
[01:57] <vars> how do i get qmake?
[01:58] <crimsun> iGotNoTime: does your usb headset require any firmware to be uploaded to it before it functions?
[01:58] <crimsun> iGotNoTime: no, you don't need to reinstall anything
[01:58] <zenbum> theripper: edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:58] <tonyyarusso> mlask: You'll probably have to give the details on "doesn't work" for anyone to know what your issue is.
[01:58] <theripper> i read that already , i still dont get it
[01:58] <T-CAN> tonyyarusso: well, at first I thought it was because I was just running ubuntu Live off the CD and device detection was supported, but i guess thats not the case
[01:58] <iGotNoTime> no crimsun nothing mentioned
[01:59] <vars> bueller  ....  bueller .....
[01:59] <zenbum> theripper: uncomment all the commented-out deb/deb-src lines..... run apt-get update
[01:59] <iGotNoTime> crimsun, so it could be my hotplug thing for USB?
[01:59] <crimsun> iGotNoTime: your what?
[01:59] <theripper> how do i uncomment ?
[02:00] <iGotNoTime> I don't know whatever senses the USB ports crimsun  :P
[02:00] <theripper> when i leave blank it goes back to comment
[02:00] <jason_> can anyone point me toward an install guide for thunderbird 1.5? I d/l'ed it and dont know what ot do...
[02:00] <zido> does Google Video have a plugin for Linux?
[02:00] <tristanmike> theripper: delete the #  in front of the line
[02:00] <tonyyarusso> T-CAN: No, they should be detected by the Live CD, but not automounted.
[02:00] <iGotNoTime> zido, not yet
[02:00] <zido> iGotNoTime: ok
[02:00] <zenbum> theripper: just remove leading '#' character.... of course you must edit file as root
[02:00] <tonyyarusso> ubotu: tell jason_ about tb1.5
[02:00] <iGotNoTime> wait zido plugin or software?
[02:00] <jason_> thanks
[02:00] <zenbum> theripper: sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:00] <theripper> ok , thank you , gonna go try it
[02:00] <zido> iGotNoTime: well, anyway i can watch movies from GoogleVideo
[02:01] <iGotNoTime> zido, yes a flash plugin will make it work :)
[02:01] <tristanmike> theripper: you probably need to "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list"  that will give you root
[02:01] <zido> ah, great, thx
[02:01] <T-CAN> tonyyarusso: gotcha gotcha, I just found them in "Disks" I guess the problem is that they werent mounted
[02:01] <iGotNoTime> crimsun, I will just keep searching for others who have the same headset :)
[02:01] <iGotNoTime> thanks for your time crimsun
[02:02] <arrick> who here is good with xubuntu hangs?
[02:02] <arrick> ubotu did not help
[02:02] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, arrick
[02:02] <tonyyarusso> T-CAN: Oh, hey, what do you know.  (Now wondering how they could not be in /dev but show up there, but okay...)
[02:02] <zido> will the libflash-mozplugin do the work?
[02:02] <happy> anyone here offer some advise on converting images made in windows .daa files to iso?
[02:03] <crimsun> iGotNoTime: please pastebi ``lsusb -v'' output
[02:03] <mlask> ok... here are details: i've installed bootsplash and bootsplash-theme packages and i don't wan't  them anymore. but it returns me " underprocess(?) pre-removal script has returned error code 10". How can i force the apt-get to remove that package? there are no dependecy so i belive it will be 100% safe
[02:03] <iGotNoTime> crimsun, I don't remember how to get the output ;)
[02:03] <crimsun> iGotNoTime: I just gave you the command to run
[02:03] <tonyyarusso> happy: What is a .daa anyway?  What's it come from?
[02:03] <cello_rasp> is it possible to get xubuntu down to 700mb??
[02:04] <iGotNoTime> ok :)
[02:04] <arrick> cello_rasp, more than possible
[02:04] <crimsun> iGotNoTime: better yet, file a bug in Malone and tell me the bug #
[02:04] <zido> iGotNoTime: it goes as far as displaying a black screen instead of "Download the plugin"-icon, but it still wont play the video
[02:04] <IdleOne> happy, www.poweriso.com check this out might help you
[02:04] <iGotNoTime> Malone?
[02:04] <cello_rasp> arrick: whats the minimum for a simple browser+email+xfce+abiword setup?
[02:04] <arrick> hey guys I used "sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop and cant get the gui to start, any help?
[02:05] <IdleOne> !malone
[02:05] <arrick> cello_rasp, i had one setup with default on 3.2gb today
[02:05] <IdleOne> !malone
[02:05] <iGotNoTime> zido, I don't know, I installed the flash plugin and it displayed right off
[02:05] <IdleOne> gues not
[02:05] <iGotNoTime> !malone
[02:05] <zido> hmm
[02:05] <arrick> then figured out i installed on the wrong drive
[02:05] <arrick> IdleOne, I need helLLLLLP
[02:06] <mlask> i tried this "apt-get remove --force-yes --purge", but is there any other commancd to force package deletion?
[02:06] <IdleOne> arrick, log out and back in chosing xfce
[02:06] <ubuntu> anyone here ever burnt a bootable dmg on linux?
[02:06] <arrick> I get no gui at all
[02:06] <osotogari> 'lo all, I am wondering can anyone help me with a sound card issue that I am having with Ubuntu Breezy 5.10. My sound card seems to be detected when i type lspci but I am receiving an error message when I try to open a volume control "The volume control did not find any elements and/or devices to control. This means either that you don't have the right GStreamer plugins installed, or that you don't have a sound card configured"
[02:06] <zido> the libflash-mozplugin package?
[02:06] <arrick> cent get the gui to start using startx or sudo IdleOne
[02:07] <crimsun> osotogari: pastebin ``lspci -v && lspci -nv && cat /proc/asound/cards && amixer -c0''
[02:07] <IdleOne> arrick, it installed without any errors?
[02:07] <arrick> as far as I know
[02:08] <crimsun> iGotNoTime: /msg ubotu filebug
[02:08] <zido> btw, how do i get DivX codec for Totem?
[02:08] <iGotNoTime> half way through it crimsun
[02:08] <arrick> i installed gnome and the same thing happened IdleOne so I 'sudo aptitude remove gnome' and 'sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop
[02:09] <IdleOne> arrick, got me :?
[02:09] <arrick> ok
[02:09] <arrick> !pastebin
[02:09] <ubotu> from memory, pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[02:09] <osotogari> @ crimsun: that is posted to the pastebin
[02:10] <pike> arrick: problem with xfce?
[02:10] <arrick> yeah
[02:10] <void^> Xauthority problem from running startx with sudo
[02:10] <pike> arrick: prob have better luck at #xfce they've helped my out with a few things
[02:10] <nrunge> Is there a way to have apt-get install packages to a directory other than the default?
[02:10] <arrick> ok thanks
[02:11] <iGotNoTime> crimsun,  Bug #38516
[02:11] <iGotNoTime> crimsun, I am back to google, thanks for your time again :)
[02:12] <luis_> hello there! I need to know how to install the brazilian portuguese dictionary into open office... for gramatical correction
[02:12] <pinkmermaid> Is there anyway to have application grouping, like on WinXP? It's one of the very few things I like >.>
[02:12] <theripper> hmm , ok i know how to unomment the universe servers in the file but i dont know how to save changes to the file
[02:13] <krazykit> hrm.  would tunneling an internet connection through ssh be terribly difficult?
[02:13] <pike> theripper: in gedit? or vi?
[02:13] <arrick> pike check out http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11643
[02:13] <theripper> pike: vi
[02:13] <purplefeltangel> not having changed my sound drivers at all, am I using Alsa or OSS?
[02:14] <Cooner750> I noticed something in Mplayer. When it's playing music videos in Firefox it seems to 'skip' quite often until it appears the video is fully loaded. Is this a bug? or?
[02:14] <pike> theripper: ':wq' to write and quit
[02:14] <pike> theripper: basically hit esc to go back to command mode an then :wq
[02:14] <theripper> lol , ok thanks ,....  wow
[02:16] <pike> arrick: try just delete the file .Xauthority in home directory or sudo chown username .Xauthority
[02:16] <arrick> ok will try
[02:16] <sexy> j/ #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:17] <IdleOne> /j
[02:17] <theripper> pike: ok , escape doesnt take me back to console
[02:17] <ubuntu_> can anyone tell me if i want to install ubuntu on the same hd as xp....and i resize the partition, will my data be lost?
[02:17] <IdleOne> ubuntuback up first
[02:17] <bimberi> ubuntu_: the installer can resize for you, but it is best to back up first :)
[02:17] <IdleOne> !tell ubuntu_ about dualboot
[02:18] <sonic> does anyone know why my question mark button only comes out with "/"
[02:18] <sonic> the keyboard setting is set properly to uk english
[02:18] <Xterm35> ?
[02:18] <pike> theripper: vi has an input and a command mode to enter input you hit i key. to go back to command mode hit esc. once in command mode commands are entered by typing them in with a : in front so in command mode :wq should save and quit
[02:18] <arrick> pike, done
[02:18] <pinkmermaid> http://www.wakachan.org/os/src/1143320612586.jpg
[02:18] <arrick> wont work
[02:18] <areels> which languages are supported in edubuntu?
[02:18] <ubuntu_> IdleOne am i capable of backing up from the live cd? cuz thats what im on right now
[02:19] <pike> arrick: .Xauthority file is deleted right?
[02:19] <zido> i've installed the DivX for Linux codec, now, how do i get Totem to work with it?
[02:19] <IdleOne> ubuntu_, I would do it from windows..get all your important stuff on cd just in case
[02:20] <arrick> yeah pike
[02:20] <tonyyarusso> Why do I have to be root to burn a CD?
[02:20] <pike> arrick: and you get same error?
[02:20] <arrick> yep
[02:21] <IdleOne> tonyyarusso, cdrom is owned by root>?
[02:21] <pike> arrick: ah not sudo just startx
[02:21] <ubuntu_> IdleOne: the thing is, i had tried dual booting with 2 hd's earlier but the 2nd hd (one i was putting ubuntu on) isn't beeing recognized. i tried EVERYTHING its just dead. and grub is on the working hd and it keeps looking for ubuntu. so i cant access xp
[02:21] <arrick> both get the same error pike
[02:21] <tonyyarusso> IdleOne: How do I fix it?  It would be nice if normal users could burn a CD.
[02:21] <IdleOne> tonyyarusso, chown
[02:21] <theripper> pike: ok , now it works , thanks a lot , took me only half a day to figure this out
[02:22] <Justin_173> so...does anyone here use the dapper flight 6?
[02:22] <tonyyarusso> IdleOne: on the mount point?
[02:22] <IdleOne> !tell ubuntu_ about grub
[02:22] <maxallen> !apt-get
[02:22] <ubotu> rumour has it, apt-get is http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/apt-howto.en.txt (in depth) and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto
[02:22] <tritium> Justin_173: #ubuntu+1
[02:22] <IdleOne> tonyyarusso, yeah I think so
[02:22] <tonyyarusso> IdleOne: Okay.
[02:22] <pike> arrick: ok try one more time sudo chown arrick /home/arrick/.Xauthority and then just startx
[02:22] <arrick> ok
[02:23] <arrick> pike same error
[02:24] <arrick> #xfce has the info too
[02:24] <ubuntu_> IdleOne but how can i get to windows if grub is on the same hd and the drive with ubuntu on it is not working?
[02:24] <pike> arrick: thats messed up :)
[02:24] <RustyJames> Hi, i just installed ubuntu on a toshiba satellite Laptop and its running very well so far. the only thing is that the resolution is only 1024x768 and i would like to have 1280x800, because its an wxga display does anyone know how i can make this work?
[02:24] <arrick> yeah
[02:24] <IdleOne> !grub
[02:24] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[02:24] <hyso> Hi
[02:24] <zido> .
[02:25] <IdleOne>  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows  ubuntu_
[02:25] <arrick> hey is there a difference between sudo apt-get update and """"upgrade?
[02:25] <maxallen> !glibc
[02:25] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, maxallen
[02:25] <hyso> Can anyone tell me if a wireless pci card can be configured automatically during the ubuntu installation?
[02:25] <maxallen> upgrade upgrades the software
[02:25] <maxallen> update updates the apt-get lists
[02:25] <hyso> or would I need to configure it after the installation?
[02:26] <arrick> hey pike can I install the DM by typing 'sudo aptitude install xfce?
[02:26] <IdleOne> !tell RustyJames about fixres
[02:26] <arrick> instead of xubuntu-desktop pike
[02:27] <ubuntu_> IdleOne im still unclear
[02:27] <arrick> hey IdleOne is there a difference between apt-get update, and apt-get upgrade?
[02:27] <tritium> arrick: yes
[02:27] <pike> arrick: you can install xfce that way
[02:28] <IdleOne> arrick, update gets the apt-get list updated and upgrade handles the software upgrades
[02:28] <IdleOne> dist-upgrade handles kernel upgrade iirc
[02:28] <arrick> ok
[02:29] <IdleOne> ubuntu_ sorry i dont know how to help you further
[02:30] <ubuntu_> how can i find what my hd is on the live cd so i can access it?
[02:30] <theripper> is it ok to update files from the universe servers or not?
[02:30] <tritium> IdleOne: and other situations as well
[02:30] <IdleOne> theripper, provide they are ubuntu repos yes
[02:31] <IdleOne> tritium, such as?
[02:31] <theripper> ok , ty
[02:31] <aimaz> I have a more non-technical ubuntu question, I want to change my parents' computer to ubuntu as they are forever complaining about XP and I don't like spending all my time fixing their computer every time I go round there. Neither are especially computer literate but can manage MS Word and such, any tips on converting non-geeks to ubuntu from XP?
[02:32] <tritium> IdleOne: such as when an apt-get upgrade would leave packages held back due to requiring newer dependencies
[02:32] <ubuntu_> how can i find what my hard drive is called so i can access it? also how do i do access it b/c i havent done it in a while
[02:32] <IdleOne> tritium, ok that makes sense, thanks
[02:32] <ReWT_AxS> aimaz, yes. Install it and let them play with it like they started on windows
[02:32] <ReWT_AxS> Only way to learn is to try it
[02:33] <kameron> what's the prefered method of upgrading kernels in ubuntu? i haven't done that yet.
[02:33] <IdleOne> aimaz, best bet is install and configure it for them and go by once a week and do updates...this way they have a working pc and they are happy to see you once a week :)
[02:33] <aimaz> i can't get once a week unfortunatly
[02:33] <pike> aimaz: and dont givem sudo accounts :)
[02:34] <aimaz> i live 6 hours away
[02:34] <IdleOne> kameron, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:34] <IdleOne> aimaz, setup freenx and do it that way
[02:34] <IdleOne> !freenx
[02:34] <ubotu> freenx is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX
[02:35] <ubuntu_> how can i find what my hard drive is called so i can access it? also how do i do access it b/c i havent done it in a while
[02:35] <IdleOne> aimaz, you login at night when they sleep do what you gotta do and they are none the wiser
[02:35] <aimaz> can i share a desktop with them with that?
[02:35] <aimaz> i can do that with ssh
[02:35] <aimaz> the upgrading i mean
[02:35] <IdleOne> aimaz, exactly
[02:35] <pike> ubuntu_: sudo fdisk -l maybe what youre looking for
[02:35] <michael_angelo> hey i just installed bittorrent but cant see it in the app menu
[02:35] <pike> ubuntu_: but its prob already mounted under /media/ directory
[02:36] <dabaR_> Hey. How do I join a wireless network on a command line? I can see the networks with "iwlist eth0 scan"
[02:36] <aimaz> michael_angelo, you can use the menu editor, i believe it's called "smeg" it might be in Applications->System Tools
[02:36] <IdleOne> aimaz, freenx is like you were sitting at that machine
[02:36] <aimaz> IdleOne, but can they see what i do?
[02:36] <thrice`> dhcpcd eth0 ?
[02:36] <IdleOne> aimaz, nope
[02:37] <aimaz> k
[02:37] <MdSalih> trying to create a symbolic link.. however getting this error: invalid cross-link device
[02:37] <ubuntu_> pike it isn't mounted
[02:37] <MdSalih> ?
[02:37] <pike> ubuntu_: windows drive?
[02:38] <barry83> what repository do i need to add for yahoo's messenger to work on unbutu
[02:38] <ubuntu_> pike, yes but it has grub on it so i cannot get to windows because of it
[02:38] <joh6nn> barry83: why not use gaim?
[02:38] <IdleOne> barry83, use GAIM
[02:38] <michael_angelo> oops sorry am using dapper drake
[02:39] <barry83> gaim is the srvice thru unbutu right that has most of the messengers in it
[02:39] <WebLOCH> hey guys, look for general advice for ubuntu in relation to iBooks, specifically i think a cpu report is incorrect and would like help identifying thge actual speed
[02:39] <IdleOne> barry83, yes
[02:39] <joh6nn> ubuntu_: what do you mean, you can't get to windows because of grub?  or have i misunderstood you?
[02:39] <pike> ubuntu_: sudo fdisk -t to find partition name; then sudo mount -o umask=000 /dev/hda1 /whateverdirectory replace hda1 w/ whatever you see after typing fdisk -l
[02:40] <pike> ubuntu_: thats sudo fdisk -l
[02:40] <tritium> barry83: it's just a client.  It uses the actual AIM, yahoo, MSN, etc. services
[02:40] <barry83> it keeps saying unable to read
[02:40] <joh6nn> barry83: what keeps saying that?
[02:40] <barry83> gaim\
[02:40] <joh6nn> gaim?
[02:41] <joh6nn> what is it saying that in relation to?  installation?  starting the app?
[02:41] <nrunge> Is there a way to use apt-get to install a package into a user defined directory? Or to do so should I just manually compile the applications?
[02:42] <barry83> wow it worked now???  why???
[02:42] <ubuntu_> pike: fdisk came up as /dev/hdb1 but when i typed that in the sudo mount it said it wasnt found in the /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[02:42] <pike> nrunge: you could download the deb and then extract it instead of installing
[02:43] <nrunge> pike: you mean that I can do that with dpkg?
[02:43] <pike> nrunge: yep -x instead of -i
[02:44] <pike> ubuntu_: is there a directory /media/hdb1 ?
[02:44] <nrunge> pike: that helps. See my problem is that Ubuntu installs apps for my apache server outside of my chroot by default. I need everything within /var/www
[02:44] <nrunge> pike: and I cant see a better way to do it.
[02:44] <ubuntu_> pike:no
[02:45] <ReWT_AxS> Pi Kappa Alpha?
[02:45] <pike> ubuntu_: type sudo mkdir /media/hdb1 then type sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[02:45] <ubuntu_rules_awy> i just got 2 hd's that have bad sectors in them...  any way to fix that? i know i can put them in a mac and do a low-level format, but i have no access to a mac...
[02:45] <arrick> !xfce
[02:45] <ubotu> xfce is, like, totally, a lightweight Desktop Environment that uses GTK. to install, "sudo apt-get install xfce4" or "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". http://www.xfce.org/
[02:46] <pike> ubuntu_: add this line to fstab: /dev/hdb1       /media/hdb1      ntfs    umask=000,defaults        0       0
[02:46] <vars> where can i get libqt3c102-mt
[02:46] <ubuntu_> pike: okay done
[02:47] <pike> ubuntu_: then save and quit gedit the type in terminal sudo mount -a'
[02:47] <pike> ubuntu_: sudo mount -a
[02:47] <ubuntu_> pike:it said cannot open /media/hdb1
[02:48] <vars> can anyone see me?
[02:48] <wickers> vars: I can see you.
[02:48] <WebLOCH> vars - yes
[02:48] <ubuntu_> pike:and i cannot save im on the live cd
[02:48] <tritium> vars: no, just your words
[02:48] <pike> ubuntu_: ah
[02:48] <vars> where can i get libqt3c102-mt
[02:48] <wickers> Does ubuntu have an auto grub config utility?
[02:49] <ubuntu_rules> i need to fix bad sectors on my hd's i just got...  any ideas?
[02:49] <ubuntu_rules> !grub
[02:49] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[02:49] <pike> ubuntu_: then just make a directory then type sudo mount -o umask=000 /dev/hdb1 /directoryname
[02:50] <Ti_Uhl> hello
[02:50] <arrick> hey anyone: while booting my ubuntu server, i get the following error: Temporary failure in name resolution, any suggestions?
[02:51] <Ti_Uhl> is there a great difference between breezy x86 and x64 ? because i've bought a 64 bit amd cpu but i want to know if the difference between the 2 ubuntu version is really that much ? or can i install with the normal 32 bit version and change it to 64
[02:52] <sonic> does anyone know where I can get themes for ubuntu?
[02:52] <Ti_Uhl> because otherwise i will have to download the 64 bit version
[02:52] <ubuntu_> pike: where do i place the directory?
[02:52] <pike> Ti_Uhl: I have a amd 64 and use k7 kernel id use that or i686 no real advantage to 64 right now and youll have some issues
[02:52] <Ti_Uhl> sonic : art.ubuntu.com
[02:53] <sonic> thank you very much
[02:53] <pike> ubuntu_: just put it in your home directory
[02:53] <sonic> this channel has been great help
[02:53] <Ti_Uhl> pike : so if install with the normal version i'd be ok ?
[02:53] <Joe_Dirt> epic@ubuntu:~/Desktop$ su root ./jre-1_5_0_01-linux-i586.bin
[02:53] <Joe_Dirt> Password:
[02:53] <Joe_Dirt> bash: ./jre-1_5_0_01-linux-i586.bin: Permission denied
[02:53] <Joe_Dirt>     I need to make root an actual user i think (thats what i did last time), how do i do that?
[02:53] <Joe_Dirt> oops srry
[02:53] <pike> Ti_Uhl: yep you wont see a speed improvement really with 64 right now except for specialized stuff
[02:54] <Ti_Uhl> and do i have to change the kernel ?
[02:54] <Ti_Uhl> apt-get an other one ?
[02:54] <pike> Ti_Uhl:  id use i386 install cd then sudo apt-get install whatever kernel 686 or ky
[02:54] <pike> Ti_Uhl:  id use i386 install cd then sudo apt-get install whatever kernel 686 or k7
[02:54] <ubuntu_> pike:alright i typed in the line with my directory
[02:55] <Ti_Uhl> K7 is 64 bit ?
[02:55] <Ti_Uhl> or that's 32 bit
[02:55] <pike> Ti_Uhl: 32
[02:55] <wickers> 32
[02:55] <hanasaki> is ubuntu live gnome?kde?
[02:55] <Ti_Uhl> but with a amd instruction set
[02:55] <Ti_Uhl> :)
[02:55] <WebLOCH> anyone ever heard of /proc/cpuinfo lying ?
[02:55] <Ti_Uhl> k
[02:55] <Ti_Uhl> :)
[02:56] <Ti_Uhl> then i'll start the linux install :)
[02:56] <arrick> hey why are my repos down?
[02:56] <Ti_Uhl> with the cd i have here :)
[02:56] <pike> WebLOCH: i had my cpu detected wrong once by bios had to flash to newest version
[02:56] <joh6nn> arrick: what's the error you're getting in relation to?  like, what comes immediately before it during the boot?
[02:56] <WebLOCH> pike, ive replaced the logic board fro myy ibook
[02:56] <arrick> thats what comes up in the boot
[02:56] <WebLOCH> and a live cd indicated it was only 533mhz
[02:56] <WebLOCH> not 1ghz :P
[02:56] <arrick> joh6nn, ^^
[02:57] <pike> WebLOCH: suck it up its only 500mhz :)
[02:57] <Joe_Dirt> hanasaki gnome is brown and kde is blue...i dont know how else to answer
[02:57] <joh6nn> arrick: yeah, i caught that.  what comes immediately before it during the boot?
[02:57] <arrick> !pastebin
[02:57] <ubotu> pastebin is probably http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[02:57] <arrick> hang on
[02:57] <arrick> dont know, will have to reboot it
[02:57] <WebLOCH> pike, point is, i was sold a 1ghz board, so i want to knwo so i can go beat half the money out of the guy that sold me it
[02:57] <Ti_Uhl> on final question, does ubuntu support a marvell gigabit lan nic ?
[02:57] <hanasaki> Joe_Dirt: i am lost.. :(  brown/blue?
[02:57] <pike> WebLOCH: sorry not i have zero exp with macs but i would think it would be a bios thing or tireiron time..
[02:58] <WebLOCH> tireiron ?
[02:58] <WebLOCH> oh haha
[02:58] <sonic> does anyone know how to change the top and bottom border colours of the desktop?  Changing theme doesnt seem to change it, it just changes the border of program windos
[02:58] <arrick> hey guys I need more eyes to look at this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11647 please, I cannot install anything or update apt
[02:58] <hanasaki> brown/blue?
[03:00] <joh6nn> arrick: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[03:01] <navreet> anyone know which file I have to edit to basically add to the path for apache?
[03:01] <arrick> hey joh6nn it has synchronic clock with blahblah
[03:01] <navreet> e.g. if someone wants "blah.html" from the root directory, I also want apache to search another directory for blah.html
[03:02] <joh6nn> arrick: what hoops do you need to jump through in order to connect to the internet?
[03:02] <arrick> dont know cant remember how to ping but I can ssh fine
[03:02] <arrick> into it that is
[03:03] <arrick> !ping
[03:03] <ubotu> pong
[03:03] <joh6nn> arrick: well, i mean, in order to get that box connected to the internet, what hoops need to be jumped through?  you need to run any scripts or anything first?
[03:03] <arrick> nope
[03:03] <joh6nn> hmm
[03:04] <arrick> hey what all things on that page do I need to include in the soureces list?
[03:04] <joh6nn> well, that error you're getting is because by default, ubuntu tries to synch your box's clock up via ntp at boot.  apparently, on your box, this is happening before the box actually has an internet connection
[03:05] <arrick> ok
[03:06] <arrick> sending a dns error for syncing the clock?
[03:06] <joh6nn> arrick: yep: if you haven't got a net connection, dns doesn't work nearly as well
[03:06] <navreet> anyone here know how to configure apache2?
[03:06] <joh6nn> navreet: you'll probably do better with that in an apache channel
[03:07] <arrick> navreet if you dont get help before i get my problem done, i can help you out
[03:07] <clever_> once i install japanese writing support how to i select it for use?
[03:08] <arrick> hey writeout in nano means save right?
[03:08] <arrick> ctrl O?
[03:08] <joh6nn> no idea; don't use nano
[03:08] <navreet> control-o
[03:08] <navreet> enter
[03:08] <clever_> 
[03:09] <clever_> doesnt see to work
[03:09] <navreet> arrick, what's your issue? maybe I can help you out
[03:09] <mue1> yes writeout is save
[03:09] <arrick> cant get my sources to update, cant install, maybee I haev my interface page wrong
[03:10] <WebLOCH> hey guys, dapper reckons it will take 49710d to get thru the "Select and Install Software" stage, any ideas?
[03:10] <Crackez> man, I can't believe they decided to blow the 4/20 release date
[03:10] <navreet> arrick, want my /etc/apt/sources.list?
[03:10] <arrick> how do I access a webpage from command to see if I have connection?
[03:10] <navreet> arrick, nslookup... ping... wget..?
[03:10] <arrick> I have a good one, it was on the server before hand
[03:10] <arrick> ping preffered
[03:10] <navreet> arrick, nslookup www.google.com to see if you can resolve
[03:10] <navreet> hosts
[03:11] <navreet> arrick, then do a ping to see if you can actually get out there
[03:11] <arrick> no servers could be reached
[03:11] <arrick> ok, I got a networking prob
[03:11] <navreet> arrick, what happens when you do: /sbin/ifconfig ?
[03:12] <navreet> everything look OK?
[03:12] <arrick> I set a static ip, and cant get it throufgh now
[03:12] <clever_> try to ping the router or a pc on the lan?
[03:12] <clever_> could be the gateway is missing
[03:12] <arrick> i have ssh into it
[03:12] <hosler> I just installed cups, but what username and password do I use for the web tool?
[03:12] <arrick> hosler create one
[03:12] <bimberi> !cups
[03:13] <ubotu> cups is probably The Common UNIX Printing System (or CUPS) is a printing system and general replacement for lpd and the like.  See also http://linuxprinting.org/
[03:13] <vars> where can i get libqt3c102-mt?
[03:13] <bimberi> !cupsweb
[03:13] <ubotu> To enable the administration functions of the cups web interface - "sudo adduser cupsys shadow" then "sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys restart"
[03:13] <bimberi> vars: installing skype?
[03:13] <vars> installing flash for linux
[03:13] <void^> mpg123 eats 90% cpu time :(
[03:14] <hosler> bimberi: so after I do that which username and password do I use?
[03:14] <joh6nn> vars: packages.ubuntu.com
[03:14] <bimberi> hosler: your own (i think)
[03:14] <joh6nn> vars: or packages.debian.org
[03:14] <bimberi> !flash
[03:14] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:14] <please> how do i get the new dapperdrake
[03:14] <bimberi> joh6nn: ^^^^
[03:14] <hosler> bimberi: sweet thanks
[03:14] <vars> that is flash editor
[03:15] <bimberi> vars: ah, no sorry
[03:15] <bimberi> vars: and i've no idea about that :|
[03:15] <bimberi> !getdapper
[03:15] <ubotu> You can download dapper CD Images via http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/dapper/flight-5/ or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/.
[03:15] <bimberi> please: actually there's flight 6 now ...
[03:15] <bimberi> !flight6
[03:16] <ubotu> I heard flight6 is http://www.ubuntu.com/testing
[03:16] <vars> waht is flight 6?
[03:16] <Eleaf> yar, my totem can't play anything lol
[03:16] <vars> ohh ubuntu testing] 
[03:16] <pike> dapper after latest dist upgrade
[03:16] <pinkmermaid> The Dapper flights don't like me~
[03:16] <Eleaf> Any suggestions?  I have w32codecs installed etc.  But it can't open absolutely anything.
[03:16] <scarn> hey guys, i need help installing a dual boot winxp sp2/Ubuntu on RAID 0 is this possible?
[03:16] <orbin> Eleaf: what player?
[03:16] <hosler> Eleaf: I would get mplayer or xine
[03:16] <Eleaf> orbin, totem.
[03:17] <orbin> Eleaf: totem-xine?
[03:17] <Eleaf> Yes, but the default player should be able to play something simple.
[03:17] <vars> Eleaf, i like mplayer
[03:17] <Eleaf> yes mplayer is alright...
[03:17] <crimsun> the default player doesn't play wavs?
[03:17] <pinkmermaid> Is there anything I can use to play winamp NSV in Ubuntu? I've tried with mplayer, but it's always out of sync >>
[03:17] <scarn> #fedora
[03:17] <hosler> Eleaf: yeah mplayer is great. It even has a mozilla plugin.
[03:17] <vars> you have to use autosync = 60
[03:17] <Eleaf> I don't know if I want to install mplayer on dapper though lol
[03:18] <vars> pinkmermaid,
[03:18] <crimsun> mplayer works best under Dapper, heh
[03:18] <please> some one gave me a link to a post
[03:18] <jkernsjr> has anyone here had the problem with freenx and it just starting a blank screen?
[03:18] <pinkmermaid> vars, as part of the command when I run it? Can I put that in a launcher of some kind? :3
[03:19] <pike> jkernsjr: what client are you using to connect? momachine?
[03:19] <vars> pinkmermaid, this is linux you can do whatever you want
[03:19] <vars> yes part of the command
[03:19] <jkernsjr> yep
[03:20] <orbin> Eleaf: ah, dapper.  you do know about #ubuntu+1 right?
[03:20] <Eleaf> yes,.
[03:20] <jkernsjr> i finally got it to work but it was hard...and I did A LOT of digging
[03:20] <Eleaf> just people never talk there... lol
[03:20] <pike> jkernsjr: i use it on my windows box and went to config chose custom desktop and xfce4-session to start
[03:21] <jkernsjr> that worked fine
[03:21] <orbin> Eleaf: there's also the forum
[03:21] <Eleaf> yes...
[03:22] <Eleaf> But that takes like 99 hours to get a half-helpful response ;)
[03:22] <pinkmermaid> http://www.mts.net/~dw/screenshot.png I love my desktop <3
[03:22] <orbin> anyway, i have a video issue myself...certain wmvs have corrupted display (i get a double image).  is this b/c it's drm?
[03:23] <pike> orbin: prob wmv 9
[03:23] <jkernsjr> pike: I think my issue was that I didnt understand how xfce works...I thought it would magically remember settings I made on the dock without me exiting and choosing to save settings
[03:23] <orbin> Eleaf: yes, but it also has a search feature :)
[03:23] <orbin> Eleaf: someone might have the same issue as you
[03:23] <yaaar> anybody using beagle round here? impressions?
[03:23] <Eleaf> orbin, I know but for old fashioned breezy issues ;)
[03:23] <Eleaf> oh well lol.
[03:23] <orbin> pike: any way to get them working right?
[03:23] <arrick> ok guys, I can nslookup www.google.com, but ping says the network is unreachable navreet
[03:24] <Eleaf> I'm thinking maybe totem doesn't have the ability to play anything at all, ever. in dapper yet. lol
[03:24] <navreet> arrick, sorry man, don't know too much about this
[03:24] <pike> orbin: you can try compiling vlc.. http://www.nanocrew.net/2005/09/01/compiling-vlc/
[03:24] <orbin> Eleaf: keep trying in here.  someone's bound to pipe up
[03:24] <Eleaf> =] 
[03:24] <pike> orbin: good luck man :)
[03:24] <Mortuis> How do I remove a non-empty directory that has non-empty subdirectorys?
[03:24] <arrick> anybody knowing how to set a static ip from command line please join #arrick so I dont flood in here
[03:25] <orbin> pike: thanks for the info
[03:25] <jkernsjr> how many people are using dapper?
[03:25] <Howdy125> me
[03:25] <orbin> Mortuis: rm -rf <dir>  (be very careful)
[03:25] <rox> hi
[03:25] <arrick> do I just type in ping www.google.com to ping?
[03:25] <IdleOne> can someone tell me  what the command field should be when creating a launcher for xmms?
[03:25] <rox> i just found a bug in dapper ... any tips on hpow to report it
[03:26] <Mortuis> orbin: ah, okay. Thanks.  I was trying rmdir -rf
[03:26] <rox> ?
[03:26] <bimberi> !filebug
[03:26] <ubotu> filebug is, like, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+filebug
[03:26] <arrick> evening orbin
[03:26] <pinkmermaid> vars, so... I'm a ditz... How do I do the whole autosync thing? :3
[03:26] <bimberi> rox: ^^^^
[03:26] <orbin> Mortuis: so cloes :)
[03:26] <orbin> arrick: morning
[03:26] <arrick> haha
[03:26] <VR_> im trying to use a dns client to update my ip, and it says that php is required to run it. in fact it is only a php file... i have php4 installed, and when i try to run the script (dns client), it tells me, "command not found"  the command i'm using is php -q lastip.php
[03:27] <arrick> php is very different fro php4
[03:27] <VR_> arrick: what package do i need?
[03:27] <rox> bimberi: thank you, i did finf the launchpad, but it's my first time filing a bug for ubuntu, i was just asking if there is anything particular to look out for
[03:28] <bimberi> rox: mainly to try to search for it being already reported before you file :)
[03:29] <rox> bimberi: that is obvious
[03:29] <bimberi> bimberi: indeed
[03:29] <bimberi> rox even :|
[03:29] <vars> pinkmermaid, mplayer autosync 60 /you file    i think
[03:29] <pinkmermaid> vars,  thanks :)
[03:29] <rox> bimberi: thanx
[03:30] <vars>  mplayer -autosync 60 -zoom 20  http://38.113.141.19:8010;stream.nsv
[03:30] <rox> bimberi: ok, i am filing a bug against the peacock package ... if products search doesn't find the package, does that mean no bugs were filed against it, or does it mean that i am not searching as i should ?
[03:32] <VR_> arrick: can you help me out?
[03:33] <pinkmermaid> Boo... and VLC won't show me the video for a WMV 9 file.
[03:33] <bimberi> rox: I think file it against ubuntu itself - anyone else?  crimsun?
[03:34] <rox> bimberi: the thing is, i am not sure what the prope fix would be .. i fixed it for myself here, the quick and dirty fix was changing a hardcoded define, but this is a thing that should be sloved in either ./configure script or package dependencies
[03:34] <pipegeek> Hey...does anyone here have any experience with kio_ipodslave?
[03:34] <orbin> pinkmermaid: just plain vlc from the repos?
[03:35] <pinkmermaid> orbin, yeah
[03:35] <yaaar> hey, anybody know of a good webapp for controlled file storage/access/sharing? basically like a php file-manager that i could administer through the web, adding users who would have a read-write area (w/ quota) and maybe be able to read (but not write/delete) from a pub area as well?
[03:35] <yaaar> i've got a raid server at my house that i'd like to be able to offer my friends access to over the web, with limited permissions
[03:35] <yaaar> but i don't want to fool with getting them all educated on ftp
[03:35] <rox> yaaar: owl
[03:36] <yaaar> rox; cool....checking that out
[03:36] <arrick> vr_ whats up?
[03:37] <VR_> arrick: i need "php"
[03:37] <orbin> pinkmermaid: i don't think the packaged one can
[03:37] <rox> yaaar: trac is also does what you need, it's a wiki/file storage
[03:37] <bimberi> rox: (looks like peacock is there) juse describe it all and let the dev/packager decide
[03:37] <VR_> the script won't run
[03:37] <arrick> !php
[03:37] <ubotu> Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[03:37] <pinkmermaid> orbin,  oh, okay~
[03:37] <rox> bimberi: ok
[03:37] <VR_> arrick: i did that already
[03:37] <arrick> ok
[03:37] <arrick> do you need client side now?
[03:37] <bimberi> rox: although again that's probably an obvious answer :)
[03:37] <rox> bimberi: peacock is there, but it seems there are no bugs filed against it
[03:37] <orbin> pinkmermaid: someone sent me this: http://www.nanocrew.net/2005/09/01/compiling-vlc/
[03:37] <orbin> pinkmermaid: up to you if you want to try it.  i haven't yet
[03:38] <pinkmermaid> orbin, I just found that with google, about to try it. :)
[03:38] <VR_> arrick: not sure. when i do hp -q script.php, it tells me command not fount
[03:38] <rox> bimberi: my consern is whether or not i am searching at the proper location at all ... the bug is so obvious, that somebody should have spotted it so far
[03:38] <orbin> pinkmermaid: let me know how it goes
[03:38] <pinkmermaid> orbin: Sure :)
[03:38] <VR_> php -q script.php that is
[03:38] <bimberi> rox: kk, i'll have a look myself ...
[03:38] <arrick> did you create it in a file?
[03:38] <arrick> hang on
[03:39] <VR_> arrick: yeah, it's a file
[03:39] <arrick> what are you trying to accomplish VR_
[03:39] <orbin> pike: have you tried the compile yourself?
[03:39] <rox> bimberi: the bug is such, that the app's basic functioonality is ... well .. non-existent
[03:39] <VR_> arrick: trying to run this demon that'll automatically update my dns when my ip changes
[03:39] <arrick> Vr_ is it noip.com?
[03:39] <VR_> arrick: no, freedns.afraid.org
[03:40] <bimberi> rox: i can see one called "Crash on new file" - https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/peacock/+bugs
[03:40] <arrick> use noip.com free and easy to setup
[03:40] <VR_> arrick: this is the script >> http://freedns.afraid.org/scripts/lastip.phps
[03:40] <arrick> I hat freedns
[03:40] <yaaar> rox; is this trac? http://www.edgewall.com/trac/
[03:40] <yaaar> rox: also, can't seem to find owl
[03:40] <eth0-noob> does anyone know of a good usenet client (preferably not java)
[03:40] <arrick> Hey where you from VR_ ?
[03:40] <rox> bimberi: damnit ... where  did you search for it
[03:40] <rox> ?
[03:40] <VR_> florida
[03:40] <eth0-noob> usenet file downloader
[03:40] <VR_> or, i live here
[03:41] <arrick> you ever live in michigan?
[03:41] <rox> bimberi: sorry for being an idiot here, but i did seriousely try to locate any bigs on peacock
[03:41] <arrick> VR_, ^^
[03:41] <pike> orbin: i tried once but the default instructions didnt work as wget operates a little diff.. i didnt really try to get it to work. ubuntuforums.org might have something
[03:41] <VR_> arrick: i had no-ip set up, but i dont like their domains @_@
[03:41] <vladuz976> anybody know how i can test the speed of my internet connection?
[03:41] <tapox> Hey all, upgraded to Dapper and something called firmware_helper keeps interfering with Ndiswrapper trying to do it's job. Anyone know what package this..this devil program belongs to?
[03:42] <bimberi> rox: definitely not idiotic, i find Launchpad 'difficult' as well
[03:42] <nickgarvey> !dapper
[03:42] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[03:42] <arrick> oh ok
[03:42] <eth0-noob> Dapper isnt done yet is it?
[03:42] <eth0-noob> ok.
[03:42] <tapox> No! NOOOO! Don't shove me off to Ubuntu+1!!!
[03:42] <arrick> VR_, Its too complicated for me, thats why I hate it
[03:42] <orbin> pike: yeah, seems like some people had issues w/ it.
[03:42] <arrick> you ever live in michigan? VR_
[03:42] <tapox> Yeah, it seems to eat broadcom wireless cards alive.
[03:42] <VR_> arrick: i see
[03:43] <vladuz976> anybody know how i can test the speed of my internet connection?
[03:43] <VR_> arrick: no, i'm european actually.
[03:43] <arrick> ok
[03:43] <rox> bimberi: thank you for preventing me filing a duplicate. but seriousely, wher did you do the search? i did so under packages, products and some other search forms i ran into
[03:43] <arrick> I have an x friend with the same name as you
[03:43] <VR_> hm
[03:43] <VR_> :)
[03:43] <bimberi> rox: hang on, i'm typing it :P
[03:43] <pike> orbin: you might be able to find a deb but problem is vc1 isnt free so..
[03:43] <eth0-noob> this seems like an elementary question... but how do i change the port bittorrent uses?
[03:44] <rox> yaaar: http://owl.sourceforge.net/
[03:44] <pinkmermaid> orbin, looks like I won't be able to do it... It needs a file (VC1_reference_decoder_release6.zip) and it looks like one can't really get ahold of it easily
[03:44] <bimberi> rox: i went to https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/ put 'peacock' in the "Source packages in ubuntu" box, clicked on the one result, then clicked on "Bugs" on the LHS of its page
[03:45] <orbin> pinkmermaid: ah, that's a shame.  thanks.
[03:45] <rox> bimberi: thanx for bearing with me
[03:45] <bimberi> rox: add your fix as a comment though
[03:45] <rox> bimberi: doing so as we speak
[03:45] <bimberi> rox: np whatsoever :)
[03:45] <pike> orbin: let me try to compile it tonight if it works and youre on channel ill let you know
[03:45] <pinkmermaid> orbin, oop, never mind. Found it~
[03:46] <orbin> pike: right, thanks.  so vlc is pretty much the only option in breezy?
[03:46] <yaaar> rox: perfect. thatnks
[03:47] <rox> yaaar: it requires mysql though, just so you know
[03:47] <yaaar> already got that. box already runs cacti/nagios
[03:47] <tapox> eth0-noob, you left us!
[03:48] <orbin> pike: pinkmermaid's trying it out now
[03:48] <tapox> Hello everyone, I just installed Breezy on my laptop, and it seems to be posessed by Satan himself. Any ideas on exorcism?
[03:49] <eth0-noob> lol
[03:49] <nickgarvey> !dapper
[03:49] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[03:49] <eth0-noob> !dapperdrake
[03:49] <ubotu> eth0-noob: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:49] <ic56> tapox: tell us more
[03:49] <orbin> tapox: get a young priest and an old priest?
[03:49] <tapox> ic56: Well, for a start, it breathes fire and eats Christian babies.
[03:50] <tonyyarusso> tapox: Haha!  What's it doing?
[03:50] <eth0-noob> brb
[03:50] <tapox> The HD is spinning down a bit more then I'd like, really. Any way to control it?
[03:50] <tonyyarusso> tapox: hdparm controls that...
[03:50] <tonyyarusso> !hdparm
[03:51] <nickgarvey> !test
[03:51] <ubotu> Passed.
[03:51] <Xaero_Vincent> hello people
[03:51] <docta_v> anyone know why my screen is blanking after a few mins
[03:51] <tonyyarusso> nickgarvey: It just pm'd me (chan too busy), so I /msg tell'd it instead.
[03:51] <docta_v> i tried setterm -blank 0
[03:51] <docta_v> doesn't seem to have helped
[03:52] <unstable> What can I use in ubuntu to record my screen(not a screen shot, but a video), I thought about xvidcap...but it doesn't appear to be in the official mirrors. Anyone have any alternatives or have lines I can add to my sources.list so I can apt-get install it?
[03:52] <orbin> docta_v: sys>prefs>screensaver
[03:52] <LadyNikon> is there a howto on installing packages from source?
[03:52] <nickgarvey> tonyyarusso: okie
[03:52] <docta_v> orbin: what about in KDE :)
[03:52] <nickgarvey> !compile
[03:52] <ubotu> A nice howto about compiling software from source code can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (but remember to search !apt first, after adding all the !repos)
[03:52] <bimberi> unstable: give "istanbul" a try
[03:52] <orbin> docta_v: ah.  no idea :)
[03:53] <pike> LadyNikon: there should be a readme or install text file after you unpack the source
[03:53] <orbin> docta_v: maybe check out the screensaver properties
[03:53] <Xaero_Vincent> damn my internet is crap today
[03:53] <LadyNikon> pike: k
[03:54] <linxeh> hi - is there a program like automatix or easy ubuntu for dapper ?
[03:54] <jdmpike> does anyone know how I can verify that dma is on for my cdrom drive?
[03:54] <vars> hey i want to take four or five .avi files and have them play form a title page   kinda like a dVD   but not, more like a flash or a web page, but i want it to be killer
[03:54] <OrTigaS> hi! how can see other window PC on a network
[03:54] <unstable> !fia
[03:54] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, unstable
[03:54] <jdmpike> the performance is still terrible
[03:54] <orbin> jdmpike: hdparm -d <device>
[03:54] <unstable> !fai
[03:54] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, unstable
[03:55] <unstable> linxeh: [fai]  Fully Automatic Installation for debian at http://www.informatik.uni-koeln.de/fai/ or at #fai
[03:55] <unstable> o wait, nevermind. I don't know what automatix is...I just assumed.
[03:55] <pike> vars: you have that kind of bandwidth? or is this just on your local computer
[03:55] <bimberi> !tell LadyNikon about compiling
[03:55] <jdmpike> it says it is on, but the performance is just terrible
[03:55] <vars> just on a local computer
[03:56] <vars> the files are only 12 seconds long
[03:56] <LadyNikon> bimberi: i got it thanks.
[03:56] <bimberi> LadyNikon: yw :)
[03:56] <linxeh> unstable: there is a dapper version of that? or it just uses sarge debs ?
[03:56] <orbin> vars: simple method: make a web page and embed the videos into seperate pages
[03:57] <vars> hmm  i might do that
[03:58] <orbin> you need a video plugin for firefox/whatever though
[03:58] <docta_v> ic56: yea i'm on #kubuntu but it's not as active
[03:58] <docta_v> i have religious objections to gnome...so what can i do
[03:58] <unstable> bimberi: instanbul lags the shit out of my box
[03:58] <unstable> bimberi: Why isn't xvidcap in ubuntu?
[03:58] <tapox> docta_v, Burn in hell. That's what you get if you reject GNOME as your savior.
[03:59] <LadyNikon> anyone know of a gui version of zope?
[03:59] <tapox> docta_v, I've learned my lesson, as my laptop has been eating babies all week.
[03:59] <crimsun> unstable: because no one has packaged it for Ubuntu?
[03:59] <nickgarvey> bimberi: is it just me or is the man page for istanbul lacking?
[04:00] <OrTigaS> hi! how can see other window PC on a network
[04:00] <harisund> Could someone tell me why Ubuntu decided to go with such an emphasis on Python, rather than traditional C? I mean, even gcc doesn't get installed, while the python interpreter and a million other python libraries get installed even in the server edition?
[04:00] <rappo> I'm trying to setup ubuntu on my powerbook... It detects my wireless card, but when I go to connect to the network it fails... I supply the SSID and all forms of encryption/protection are turned off (completely open wifi)... but it fails to connect... Any suggestions?
[04:00] <nickgarvey> adjose: I would not advice logging in as root to irc
[04:00] <ic56> OrTigaS:  what do you mean by "see"?
[04:00] <nickgarvey> !tell OrTigaS about samba
[04:00] <arrick> ok IdleOne got x installed, now to reinstall apache2 and proftp
[04:01] <arrick> and noip
[04:01] <vladuz976> is there anybody here who know how i can test my network connection speed? i google and couldn't find anything. please point me to some information
[04:01] <IdleOne> arrick, wtg :)
[04:01] <tapox> !tell tapox about samba
[04:01] <rappo> vladuz976 check dslreports.com -- i think that's the site
[04:01] <rappo> they should have a speed test
[04:01] <vladuz976> rappo: thanks
[04:02] <madewokherd> harisund: I don't know why they didn't install gcc (crazy), but the python interpreter should probably be on any modern linux system
[04:02] <docta_v> vladuz976: or do you mean the actual ethernet link? ethtool can tell you that
[04:02] <madewokherd> just like gcc should :p
[04:02] <vinboy> hi
[04:02] <orbin> pinkmermaid: how's it going?
[04:02] <arrick> !firefox
[04:02] <harisund> Could someone tell me why Ubuntu decided to go with such an emphasis on Python, rather than traditional C? I mean, even gcc doesn't get installed, while the python interpreter and a million other python libraries get installed even in the server edition?
[04:02] <vinboy> my primary partition is my linux and windows won't let me install it unless my primary partition is fat or ntfs
[04:02] <vinboy> is that normal?
[04:03] <pinkmermaid> orbin, fairly well, I think, though I've hit a little snag. I need to install a newer version of automake than what ubuntu has.
[04:03] <arrick> how do I install the latest version of firefox (easily)?
[04:03] <crimsun> harisund: core design decision.
[04:03] <pike> rappo: maybe try boosting transmit power but its probably something simpler
[04:03] <harisund> crimsun: Meaning?
[04:03] <vladuz976> docta_v: my company advertised with a certain speed, but i don't think i get what i am paying for
[04:03] <manji> hey, so my sound doesnt work out of the box (as it normally does on Ubuntu 5.10). how would i go about fixing that?
[04:03] <crimsun> harisund: meaning a decision was made to encourage the use of Python
[04:03] <rappo> pike well, yeah it's always worked fine.. and I'm 5ft from the router
[04:03] <docta_v> vladuz976: ah yea... cnet.com also has a bandwidth test
[04:04] <pike> rappo: prob not it then :)
[04:04] <rappo> :( I have no idea
[04:04] <docta_v> vladuz976: http://reviews.cnet.com/7004-7254_7-0.html
[04:04] <vladuz976> docta_v: isn't there some command line tool that shows me current speed
[04:04] <harisund> crimsun: Encourage the use of Python? Hmm..any particular reason? Or is just that Mark Shuttleworth simply liked Python over C++?
[04:04] <bimberi> nickgarvey unstable: yes istanbul seems somewhat 'green' to me too (hence my somewhat reserved 'give it a try')
[04:04] <orbin> arrick: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[04:04] <ic56> ttyl
[04:04] <pike> rappo: are there any other open networks you can try?
[04:04] <arrick> thank
[04:04] <docta_v> vladuz976: ethtool will tell you what your ethernet speed is...but that can't tell you what your speed to the outside internet is
[04:04] <Xaero_Vincent> Python is a good language... but I heard Effiel just went dual license
[04:04] <rappo> nope, just mine
[04:04] <docta_v> vladuz976: use that cnet.com link
[04:04] <Xaero_Vincent> Open Source and Commercial licenses
[04:04] <uber_spaced> how do I see the names and locations of files that are installed with apt-get?
[04:04] <vladuz976> docta_v: thanks
[04:04] <crimsun> harisund: a number of people prefer it to C. It also helps that our core dev team includes a Python maintainer.
[04:04] <harisund> Xaero_Vincent: Ah .. ok ..
[04:05] <bimberi> uber_spaced: dpkg -L <package>
[04:05] <orbin> uber_spaced: dpkg -L <package>
[04:05] <rappo> i live between an abandonned building and a business.. no open wifi here, heh
[04:05] <harisund> crimsun: Oh that makes more sense.. so I just guess c/c++ are merely dying away then..
[04:05] <crimsun> harisund: hardly dying.
[04:05] <uber_spaced> thanks.
[04:06] <manji> hey, so my sound doesnt work out of the box (as it normally does on Ubuntu 5.10). how would i go about fixing that?
[04:06] <arrick> ok now how to move a complete folder in command?
[04:06] <crimsun> mv
[04:06] <uber_spaced> anybody here have experience with DocBook and know the shortest / least asinine way to get started on a ubuntu based system?
[04:06] <harisund> crimsun: Hardly dying? So you are then basically saying that while both are given equal importance, Python gets preference and consequently is packaged default with Ubuntu while Gcc is still can be still obtained from the repos..
[04:06] <crimsun> manji: pastebin ``lspci -v && lspci -nv && cat /proc/asound/cards && amixer -c0''
[04:06] <rappo> picasso i changed the transit rate from auto to 54mbps with no luck :/
[04:06] <rappo> pike even
[04:07] <manji> crimsun: that should fix it? just like that?
[04:07] <Xaero_Vincent> so what kind of GUI theme enhancements will we see in Kubuntu?
[04:07] <manji> *snaps fingers*
[04:07] <crimsun> manji: of course not. I need to see that output to help you.
[04:07] <manji> crimsun: ah lol alright then
[04:08] <PwcrLinux> Hello all
[04:08] <crimsun> harisund: what was that question/statement?
[04:08] <bimberi> harisund: they're different - you need to install python for runtime, not so for gcc
[04:08] <manji> crimsun: where should i toss the output?
[04:08] <pike> rappo: channel right ssid case is correct?
[04:08] <crimsun> manji: pastebin, like I asked
[04:08] <crimsun> !pastebin
[04:08] <ubotu> I heard pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[04:08] <manji> oic
[04:08] <PwcrLinux> Do they do have a NVU webeditor for ubuntu?
[04:08] <manji> !pastebin
[04:08] <manji> lol
[04:08] <manji> wrong window
[04:08] <harisund> bimberi: ok (about python for run time)
[04:09] <bimberi> PwcrLinux: yes - nvu is in the universe repository
[04:09] <vars> hey i can downlad binaries   they are in gcc3
[04:09] <bernini> hi i cant see bittorents in the my application menu
[04:09] <vars> how the heck do i run these>
[04:10] <PwcrLinux> bimberi: Okay is that clean and passed after they put into unverisal repos?
[04:10] <FireplaceTV> hi
[04:10] <vars> anyone?
[04:11] <bimberi> PwcrLinux: clean, passed and in excellent shape (i have to say that because there are MOTU devs here :P )
[04:11] <pike> vars: can you elaborate a bit?
[04:11] <bimberi> !motu
[04:11] <ubotu> methinks motu is the Masters of the Universe ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU )
[04:12] <dabaR> !components
[04:12] <ubotu> The rationale behind the different components of the ubuntu repositories (main, restricted, universe, multiverse) is described at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components
[04:12] <vars> ktoon0.8_beta-i386-gcc3.tar.gz   how will i run that ?
[04:12] <PwcrLinux> bimberi: okay I'm gonna install it now
[04:12] <crimsun> vars: extract it first.
[04:12] <orbin> shouldn't !backports be added to that trigger?
[04:12] <bernini> hi i cant see bittorents in the my application menu
[04:13] <pike> vars: tar xfvz ktoon* to unpack
[04:13] <PwcrLinux> bimberi: which one nvu or nvu-dev?
[04:14] <dabaR> orbin: shouldn't security be added to that trigger?
[04:14] <bimberi> PwcrLinux: nvu.  only need nvu-dev if you need to do development work on nvu itself (as i understand it anyway)
[04:14] <rappo> I'm trying to setup ubuntu on my powerbook... It detects my wireless card, but when I go to connect to the network it fails... I supply the SSID and all forms of encryption/protection are turned off (completely open wifi)... but it fails to connect... Any suggestions?
[04:14] <pike> vars: that is the source code can you find a deb or rpm for that? or did you want to compile?
[04:14] <rappo> it says i'm either not using dhcp (i am), my dhcp server is slow (it isn't) or some hardware is not working properly..
[04:14] <FireplaceTV> if i want to mount a firewire drive, i would want to mount /dev/sda, right?
[04:14] <rappo> im reading on the forums that it "just works" :/
[04:15] <pinkmermaid> I keep getting this error: "aclocal: configure.ac: 14: macro `AM_PROG_LIBTOOL' not found in library" when I try to compile something...
[04:15] <eth0-noob> bye
[04:15] <crimsun> pinkmermaid: so install libtool
[04:15] <PwcrLinux> bimberi: okay sound great and I'm doing now
[04:15] <pinkmermaid> crimsun, It is installed.
[04:15] <crimsun> pinkmermaid: are the m4 macros copied over?
[04:15] <pinkmermaid> crimsun, I... don't know?
[04:15] <crimsun> pinkmermaid: i.e., does your source have an m4/ subdir?
[04:16] <pinkmermaid> crimsun, doesn't look like it.
[04:16] <crimsun> pinkmermaid: does it have .m4 files in the root of the source dir?
[04:16] <dabaR>  rappo airport extreme?
[04:16] <eth0-noob> can someone help me with opera? it works with sudo... but when i run it with my regular account i get some kind of enigine error and it starts up, but shuts down immediately
[04:17] <pinkmermaid> crimsun, no
[04:17] <crimsun> manji: did you ever pastebin the info I asked for?
[04:17] <crimsun> pinkmermaid: url to source/
[04:17] <eth0-noob> brb
[04:17] <PwcrLinux> bimberi: installed and it's prefect :)
[04:18] <PwcrLinux> bimberi: and I need to get GUI FTP program too
[04:18] <DBO> PwcrLinux, GNOME has a built in FTP client
[04:18] <PwcrLinux> DBO: where?
[04:18] <bimberi> PwcrLinux: nautilus (the file manager) via Places -> Connect to Server...
[04:18] <DBO> what he said
[04:19] <PwcrLinux> Oh, let me look at it..
[04:19] <pike> PwcrLinux: also you can install a firefox ftp extension that is pretty nice
[04:19] <pinkmermaid> crimsun, http://nanocrew.net/sw/libvc1-1.0.tar.gz and also http://www.multimedia.cx/VC1_reference_decoder_release6.zip with it
[04:19] <pinkmermaid> crimsun, http://www.nanocrew.net/2005/09/01/compiling-vlc/ <- Trying to do this
[04:19] <pike> PwcrLinux: er youd have to install uptodate firefox though
[04:19] <PwcrLinux> Pike: yea, cannot install because it's require 1.5, I am using the FF 1.0.7
[04:19] <crimsun> pinkmermaid: which are you attempting to compile?
[04:19] <crimsun> libvc1?
[04:20] <pinkmermaid> libvc1-1.0
[04:20] <crimsun> sigh.
[04:20] <crimsun> you totally answered my question incorrectly.
[04:20] <orbin> dabaR: re: !backports ... i'm guessing no then
[04:20] <eth0-noob> is gnutella better then amule or emule or whatever those two clients use?
[04:20] <crimsun> note the blatant aclocal.m4 in the root of the extracted source dir.
[04:20] <eth0-noob> !amule
[04:20] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, eth0-noob
[04:20] <nickgarvey> where is the GUI normall? alt ctrl f7?
[04:20] <eth0-noob> k
[04:20] <dabaR> orbin: ya, backports is a category like updates, or security, or archives, not like universe, main, and so on.
[04:21] <pike> nickgarvey: yes
[04:21] <OrTigaS> hi i'm new to linux and someone can walk me to see my window$ pc on a network?
[04:21] <FireplaceTV> hi. i'm trying to mount a firewire drive, but i can't see it in the /dev directory (just hda, hdc, md0-24, tty0-63)
[04:21] <arrick> what is the default directory fot proftpd?
[04:21] <orbin> dabaR: ah, i see.
[04:21] <pinkmermaid> I must be blind because I totally can't see it.
[04:21] <harisund> hey does AMD Turion ML-28 64bit qualify for 686 architecture?
[04:21] <arrick> !proftpd
[04:21] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, arrick
[04:21] <nickgarvey> !ftp
[04:21] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: vsftpd, proftpd
[04:21] <crimsun> pinkmermaid: you must be. aclocal.m4       autotools/  config.h.in  configure.ac  Makefile.in  src/
[04:21] <crimsun> pinkmermaid: btw, ./bootstrap runs to completion successfully here.
[04:22] <harisund> I am asking in order to install fglrx, since the wiki howto says I need kernel drivers, linux-$arch. I was wondering whether my AMD Turion ML 28 comes under 386 or 686
[04:22] <arrick> hey nickgarvey I need the default directory for it
[04:22] <arrick> I already installed it
[04:22] <Hexidigital> isn't the default directory /home/ftp?
[04:22] <OrTigaS> i already installed smd and smbfs
[04:22] <DBO> arrick, is the ftp server working?
[04:22] <arrick> it was
[04:22] <OrTigaS> i already installed smba and smbfs
[04:23] <pinkmermaid> crimsun, I found the problem... It didn't extract properly and the .m4 file wasn't in my source directory.
[04:23] <orbin> harisund: uname -m maybe?
[04:23] <crimsun> pinkmermaid: heh.
[04:23] <DBO> arrick, what did you do to it?:-P
[04:23] <dabaR> the default dir is the home dir of the user that logs in.
[04:23] <harisund> thanks orbin, I will try that
[04:23] <arrick> DBO, I had to reinstall it today, cause i realized that i accidently installed everything on the 3.2GB hard drvie
[04:23] <arrick> ouch
[04:23] <arrick> bad arrick
[04:23] <dabaR> OrTigaS: have you pinged your windows computer yet?
[04:23] <DBO> arrick, you still have the config file?
[04:24] <arrick> yeah
[04:24] <OrTigaS> not yet..lemme try
[04:24] <DBO> arrick, is it still not working?
[04:24] <orbin> harisund: are you running 32bit or 64?
[04:24] <nfx> hello
[04:24] <arrick> I just have to copy it back into the directory, but cant find the right on
[04:24] <arrick> one
[04:24] <manji> crimsun: there you go
[04:24] <harisund> 32 bit orbin
[04:24] <manji> crimsun: did you catch that pastebin?
[04:24] <manji> crimsun: yeah, do i need to give you something?
[04:24] <manji> crimsun: (im new)
[04:24] <harisund> It said i686. That was what I was looking for. Thanks a lot orbin
[04:24] <DBO> arrick, I believe its /etc/proftpd/proftpd.conf
[04:24] <nickgarvey> arrick: I use vsftpd, no idea
[04:24] <arrick> DBO, just got done installing everything else
[04:25] <crimsun> manji: what pastebin?
[04:25] <orbin> harisund: it's probabky easier then to just use seveas' package
[04:25] <arrick> nope DBO
[04:25] <arrick> not there
[04:25] <DBO> arrick, /etc/proftpd.conf
[04:25] <OrTigaS> i can ping the other PC on our network
[04:25] <arrick> I dont even have the ftp folder found yet
[04:25] <arrick> haha
[04:25] <manji> brimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11649 <-- dont know if that helps
[04:25] <harisund> orbin: Yep. Looks like that is what I am going to do. That is further down in the wiki and I hadn't come to that part.
[04:25] <eth0-noob> never mind i have not updated my comp after installing. goodbye for now. thanks for help site.
[04:25] <manji> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11649 <-- dont know if that helps
[04:25] <OrTigaS> and i can share my folder to and can see there
[04:25] <harisund> orbin: Nevertheless, for other applications, I do know now that it is 686.. thanks again
[04:25] <DBO> arrick, did you make the user ftp like I instructed you to last time?
[04:25] <orbin> harisund: yep.
[04:26] <arrick> its not there DBO
[04:26] <arrick> not yet
[04:26] <crimsun> manji: I'll look at it when I have a free moment
[04:26] <rappo> welp, installing on my powerbook now :D I'll deal with my wireless issue later... apparently BCM4306 support sucks, but there's a driver for it that's making waves: http://bcm43xx.berlios.de/
[04:26] <DBO> arrick, are you sure you installed proftpd?
[04:26] <manji> crimsun: any time, thank you very much
[04:26] <arrick> yeah, the user exists already
[04:26] <jadaz87> hello everyone i was wondering if there was defrag for ubuntu haha lol
[04:26] <arrick> let me double check the install
[04:26] <rappo> jadaz87 a joek
[04:26] <Hexidigital> jadaz87, Ubuntu dosen't need a defrag
[04:27] <jadaz87> i am dead serious
[04:27] <hyphenated> jadaz87: 'fsck'
[04:27] <jadaz87> hyphenated what does that do?
[04:27] <hyphenated> it's not really defrag, it's more like chkdsk
[04:27] <dabaR> rappo: use this
[04:27] <dabaR> !bcm43xx
[04:27] <ubotu> To use your broadcom or airport extreme card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx for info and firmware.
[04:27] <hyphenated> jadaz87: it's short for 'filesystem check'
[04:27] <Kilter> I'm running ubuntu as a server, but managed to install x.  how can I get it not to start x on boot, and kill it now that it's running?
[04:27] <DBO> arrick, just put it in /etc/proftpd.conf, that is where it is supposed to be
[04:27] <dabaR> It helps me to a point, I have not connected yet, but getting there.
[04:27] <arrick> ok
[04:28] <harisund> Kilter: What do you mean install x?
[04:28] <arrick> DBO, joiin #arrick for a minute will yah?
[04:28] <jadaz87> no i need defrag after a while the data on hard drives get scattered all over the disk and you need to defrag it no matter what the os
[04:28] <hyphenated> jadaz87: but ext2/ext3 filesystems don't really need to be defragmented, because it's done automagically in the background
[04:28] <jadaz87> well i wish it whould defrag more often haha or that i could tell it when to
[04:28] <Hexidigital> automagically... it works like magic  :)
[04:28] <OrTigaS> hi i'm new to linux and someone can walk me to see my window$ pc on a network?
[04:28] <jadaz87> LOL
[04:28] <harisund> Kilter: If you have installed the Gnome package completely (as in for example apt-get install ubuntu-desktop) you can stop the X windows by doing "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop"
[04:28] <OrTigaS> and i can share my folder to and can see there
[04:28] <OrTigaS> i can ping the other PC on our network
[04:28] <OrTigaS> i already installed smba and smbfs
[04:28] <Kilter> harisund: I installed a base system and X is there.  I just want to have it not start up
[04:29] <hyphenated> jadaz87: no, that's just a myth that windows users are happy to believe because it makes them feel powerful
[04:29] <DBO> arrick, it didnt install...
[04:29] <dabaR> OrTigaS: did you try using connect to server?
[04:29] <arrick> ok, i gota get it again then
[04:29] <DBO> arrick, use synaptics
[04:29] <harisund> Kilter: ok.. can you try doing "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop" and could you report back if X windows is stopped?
[04:29] <DBO> (if you have GUI)
[04:29] <arrick> I dont have it installed
[04:29] <DBO> otherwise use aptitude
[04:29] <Hexidigital> hyphenated, it's the same with virus scanners, too, i believe
[04:29] <OrTigaS> i tried already
[04:29] <jadaz87> hyphenated well when i ran Executive Diskeeper Server Enterprise it sure made a difference haha
[04:29] <Kilter> yup, give me a second
[04:30] <arrick> just the xubuntu, gui and the default webserfuer is broken
[04:30] <OrTigaS> but it ask me pwd then just type my pwd and nothing
[04:30] <crimsun> manji: your config looks fine. Which card are you using?
[04:30] <OrTigaS> i just see network
[04:30] <manji> crimsun: soundblaster audigy 2 zs
[04:30] <OrTigaS> window network
[04:31] <dabaR> OrTigaS: did you try your windows password? did you add a password in linux? read this page:
[04:31] <harisund> Kilter: Sure, Take your time. Besides how are you on IRC? If you are using Gaim or X Chat, then if X windows closes down so will that ...
[04:31] <dabaR> !sanmb
[04:31] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, dabaR
[04:31] <dabaR> !samba
[04:31] <ubotu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html
[04:31] <crimsun> manji: have you selected it as the default using System> Preferences> Sound> default sound card?
[04:31] <crimsun> manji: notice it's the _second_ card, not the primary.
[04:32] <Kilter> harisund: using another computer :)
[04:32] <OrTigaS> i thought it was automatic will the window$ network...because i tried other distro and it shows :)
[04:32] <Kilter> actually, oddly enough I'm not getting any feedback from the box when I plub a monitor up... how odd
[04:32] <FireplaceTV> can anyone help me with mounting a firewire drive?
[04:33] <Kilter> plug too
[04:33] <harisund> Kilter: Ok cool.. I didn't understand your last statment?
[04:33] <Kilter> I plug a monitor in, I'm not getting anything.  no signal detected
[04:33] <Kilter> but the box is on, I have an ssh window into it now
[04:33] <Kilter> how odd
[04:33] <harisund> Oh that's funny. You had the X windows on the monitor earlier?
[04:33] <dabaR> ya, funny, hihi.
[04:34] <harisund> Kilter: Try pressing Alt+F1 or Ctrl+Alt+F1 on the computer?
[04:34] <Kilter> yes, yesterday.  I just noticed that I'm using a lot of ram and thought I'd shut down somethings that were never being used.  X being the primary of those
[04:34] <Kilter> ok, will do
[04:34] <Hexidigital> Kilter, how much ram do you have in the box?
[04:34] <arrick> ok I cant find where I got it from yesterday
[04:35] <arrick> !ftp
[04:35] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: vsftpd, proftpd
[04:35] <danicuny> hello i need help installing packages
[04:35] <Kilter> only 256.  I wasn't running much on it until the other day though, I'm going to put some more in this weekend
[04:35] <Hexidigital> danicuny, what packages>
[04:35] <Hexidigital> ?
[04:35] <DBO> arrick, are you trying to compile from source or looking for a repo?
[04:35] <Kilter> hmm, actually, I might just shut it down now and do that...
[04:35] <pike> FireplaceTV: never used firewire but you could maybe plug it in and then ls -t /dev|head the first entry or two should be for the device and then you can mount it
[04:35] <harisund> *only* 256? kelter
[04:35] <ubuntu_> can anyone help me uninstall grub while on the live cd?
[04:35] <danicuny> lexmark for my printer
[04:35] <harisund> Kilter: ok catch up with you later.. hope that worked.. bye !
[04:35] <Hexidigital> danicuny, what model printer?
[04:35] <arrick> look for the download/selfinstaller, I found one yesterday and used it
[04:35] <danicuny> z25
[04:36] <arrick> someone gave me a link last night DBO
[04:36] <pike> ubuntu_: you cant really uninstall grub you need really to install whatever you want over it
[04:36] <DBO> arrick, to a deb?
[04:36] <PwcrLinux> Is that nautilus have a GUI FTP?
[04:36] <danicuny> this is whats happening: Reading package lists... Done
[04:36] <danicuny> Building dependency tree... Done
[04:36] <danicuny> E: Couldn't find package lexmark
[04:36] <intelikey> ubuntu_  mount the root partition  cd into it  then    chroot . grub-install
[04:36] <arrick> to a page where I chose self installer
[04:36] <DBO> PwcrLinux, yes, nautilus has a GUI FTP...
[04:36] <arrick> dont know if it was deb or not
[04:36] <PwcrLinux> DBO; Okay great :)
[04:36] <Hexidigital> danicuny, sorry... i'm not good with drivers
[04:36] <ubuntu_> intelikey can you explain a little more please?
[04:37] <danicuny> ok i need help with it though
[04:37] <dabaR> ubotu: tell danicuny about paste
[04:37] <manji> exit
[04:37] <gamma> i can't import m4a files in rhythmbox or banshee... they play in totem.. all use gstreamer0.10.. any ideas?
[04:37] <intelikey> ubuntu_  do you know the root partition ?
[04:37] <jadaz87> what is the default filesystem for ubuntu? ext3?
[04:37] <Hexidigital> !drivers
[04:37] <dabaR> danicuny: did you read what the wiki has to say about that printer?
[04:37] <ubotu> it has been said that drivers is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//BinaryDriverHowto
[04:37] <linuxlover> Does anyone know a way to convert .wma files or realplayer files to something useable by say totem or some such?
[04:37] <pinkmermaid> Growl... I'm still trying to compile libvc1, and I keep getting this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11651 Can anyone tell me what's going on?
[04:37] <Hexidigital> !lexmark
[04:37] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Hexidigital
[04:37] <jadaz87> !restrictedformats
[04:37] <ubotu> well, restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[04:37] <linuxlover> !wma
[04:37] <ubotu> it has been said that restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[04:37] <dabaR> ubotu: tell Hexidigital about msg the bot
[04:37] <PwcrLinux> !canon
[04:37] <intelikey> ubuntu_  have you read the wiki on dualboot ?
[04:37] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, PwcrLinux
[04:38] <PwcrLinux> Hmmm
[04:38] <ubuntu_> intelikey: yes i have
[04:38] <dabaR> !msg the bot
[04:38] <crimsun> pinkmermaid: did you configure it first?
[04:38] <ubotu> Please message the bot (me) in private, more info about the bot: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[04:38] <danicuny> i tried that driver link and it ain't on there
[04:38] <pinkmermaid> crimsun, Yup.
[04:38] <DBO> arrick, have you enabled backports in your sources then run a "sudo apt-get update"
[04:38] <Hexidigital> daber, that message was for someone's information
[04:38] <ubuntu_> intelikey:i need to uninstall it b/c i can't get xp to boot b/c of grub
[04:38] <pike> omg my parents are home
[04:38] <dabaR> danicuny: that page is for video cards, ya. It will not be there. Did you read what the wiki has to say about that printer?
[04:38] <PwcrLinux> I was wondering does the Canon IP1500 printer work on linux?
[04:38] <arrick> nope
[04:38] <arrick> forgot to
[04:38] <danicuny> no hold on
[04:38] <ubuntu_> intelikey:b/c the hd with ubuntu installed is no longer detected
[04:38] <arrick> hang on
[04:38] <arrick> !easysource
[04:38] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[04:38] <dabaR> PwcrLinux: did you ask google?
[04:39] <arrick> !easysources.list
[04:39] <ubotu> arrick: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:39] <DBO> ubuntu_, you can use the windows disk, get into the recovery console, and type "fixmbr"
[04:39] <jadaz87> does anyone know what the defaul filesystem for ubuntu is?
[04:39] <DBO> ubuntu_, that will remove grub, but you wont have access to linux anymore
[04:39] <Hexidigital> jadaz87, ext3
[04:39] <intelikey> ubuntu_  then you need to get into BIOS and fix that.  installing grub on a drive that is not detected wont help you.
[04:39] <ablyss> jadams, reiser
[04:39] <DBO> jadaz87, ext3
[04:39] <carthik> jadaz87, ext3
[04:39] <PwcrLinux> dabaR: okay :)
[04:39] <na7e> !debconf
[04:39] <jadaz87> oh ok
[04:39] <jadaz87> good
[04:39] <pinkmermaid> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11652 This is the output from my ./configure
[04:39] <arrick> !sources
[04:39] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[04:40] <ubuntu_> intelikey im not trying to install, im trying to uninstall
[04:40] <ablyss> ext3? i thought it was reiserfs
[04:40] <DBO> ablyss, nope, ext3
[04:40] <nickgarvey> are theroa files also .ogg?
[04:40] <intelikey> yes ubuntu_  and installing grub is not what you want.
[04:40] <ubuntu_> DBO the only windows disk i have is a dell disk
[04:40] <FireplaceTV> pike: i ran ls -t /dev|head
[04:40] <arrick> whats the easysources page
[04:40] <ablyss> shhesh.. i hope i told the installer to use resierfs.. i can't remember now...
[04:40] <danicuny> thanks got it
[04:40] <FireplaceTV> pike: output was audio, dsp, mixer, snd, shm, net, loop, ppp, MAKEDEV, sndstat
[04:41] <arrick> !easysources
[04:41] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, arrick
[04:41] <FireplaceTV> where "," == "\n"
[04:41] <arrick> !easysources.list
[04:41] <ubotu> arrick: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:41] <arrick> !sources.list
[04:41] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[04:41] <Hexidigital> ablyss, is there a reason you wanted reiser? just curious
[04:41] <arrick> WHAT IS THE EASY SOURCES PAGE?
[04:41] <bimberi> !easysource
[04:41] <ubuntu_> intelikey cuz i need to get rid of grub or somehow change it for a moment so i can get into xp and access the hd
[04:41] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[04:41] <ablyss> Hexidigital, reiserfs is a lot faster than ext3
[04:41] <arrick> thanks
[04:41] <crimsun> pinkmermaid: where are the instructions again?
[04:42] <pinkmermaid> crimsun, http://www.nanocrew.net/2005/09/01/compiling-vlc/
[04:42] <ablyss> Hexidigital, not to mention a lot safer
[04:42] <carthik> arrick, you can /msg ubotu and talk to it in a seperate window/tab too :)
[04:42] <arrick> ok
[04:42] <arrick> thanks
[04:43] <Hexidigital> how do you change  your filesystem? or do you have to reinstall?
[04:43] <UbuntuNewbie> can someone help me with Glade program
[04:43] <pinkmermaid> crimsun, could I need a newer version of libtool?
[04:43] <UbuntuNewbie> i can do the './autogen.sh' command
[04:43] <UbuntuNewbie> but i cant do the 'make' command
[04:44] <ablyss> Hexidigital, good question.  not sure though
[04:44] <UbuntuNewbie> i get error 'bash: make: command not found'
[04:44] <Hexidigital> ablyss, you get my pm?
[04:44] <crimsun> pinkmermaid: hold, I'm building it.
[04:44] <dabaR> Hexidigital: no need. the guy is saying it is faster and reliable, and others will tell you the opposite. To change a file system file, you reformat a drive,
[04:44] <nickgarvey> how do I set gdk as my default viewer?
[04:44] <UbuntuNewbie> oops i forgot to say "Hello everyone!"
[04:44] <dabaR> UbuntuNewbie: you need "build-essential"
[04:45] <crimsun> pinkmermaid: it seems to build fine on my dapper system.
[04:45] <ablyss> yes I see it now.... im only getting half the screen visible on my x11vnc side here... so I see barely see you pm Hexidigital :P
[04:45] <Hexidigital> dabar, that's what i thought (about opinions and how to do it)... thanks
[04:45] <arrick> are there no repos for proftpd?
[04:45] <dabaR> arrick: what repos for a ftp server?
[04:45] <na7e> arrick, dapper has it
[04:45] <UbuntuNewbie> i'm not sure what you mean "build-essential"
[04:45] <zoexii> hello,  I want to upgrade to dapper... How do I know what the dapper repositories are.  I need to put them in /etc/apt/sources.list?
[04:46] <na7e> i'm installing a package via apt-get in a shellscript and it prompts for user configuration.  How can I set it to not ask?
[04:46] <dabaR> UbuntuNewbie: install it
[04:46] <na7e> !dapper
[04:46] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[04:46] <carpediem> UbuntuNewbie: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[04:46] <crimsun> pinkmermaid: from a fresh wget, I extracted both files, switched to libvc1-1.0, ran find ../VC1_reference_decoder_release6 -name '*.[ch] ' -exec cp '{}' src/. ';', then executed ./bootstrap && ./configure && make
[04:46] <arrick> dabaR, I want to sudo aptitude install proftpd, but cant, even after installing all the sources from easysources
[04:46] <shoofle> ls
[04:46] <arrick> coant seem to find the one I used just last night dabaR
[04:46] <dabaR> !info proftpd
[04:46] <ubotu> proftpd: (Versatile, virtual-hosting FTP daemon), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 1.2.10-22 (breezy), Packaged size: 347 kB, Installed size: 1044 kB
[04:46] <na7e> anyone?
[04:47] <arrick> but yes
[04:48] <dabaR> arrick: fix your sources.list.
[04:48] <ubuntu_> if i resize a drive with data on it will that data be erased or will it remain there?
[04:48] <arrick> I just got done with it
[04:48] <pinkmermaid> crimsun, it's compiling now, I think because I installed the latest stable libtool from source.
[04:48] <arrick> used the easysources.list creator
[04:48] <dabaR> ubuntu_: the idea is to leave data intact.
[04:48] <crimsun> pinkmermaid: it compiles fine in breezy, too.
[04:48] <arrick> or is there something missing?
[04:49] <dabaR> arrick: use this as your easy sources: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11487
[04:49] <ubuntu_> dabaR: i know...thats what i want to do but im just trying to make sure it'll still be there following a resize of the partition
[04:49] <intelikey> what will make a vidio go plumb loco (not x related) when the init scripts start to load ?    it gets the huge colour blocks all over the screen,  no chars at all.  and stays that way until you reboot.    i pulled the drive from another box and it boots fine, just can't see the console.    anyone thoughts ?
[04:50] <dabaR> ubuntu_: no way to be sure in the future. That is what the program does, resizes, and leaves data intact. The parted program, that is.
[04:50] <pinkmermaid> crimsun, one last stupid question... Should I remove the ubuntu vlc package before I install from source, or will it matter? Will it just overwrite? :3
[04:51] <shoofle> i know that it's hard to set up wireless cards in linux, but (hehe) is there some easy way?  i have a linksys wireless-b pcmcia card.
[04:51] <ubuntu_> dabaR: will the partitioner only make the partition with open space?
[04:51] <IdleOne> !wireless
[04:51] <ubotu> wireless is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers
[04:51] <crimsun> pinkmermaid: remove it.
[04:51] <LordXenu> peoples
[04:51] <linuxlover> Can anyone tell me the command in term to upgrade from Breezy to Dapper?
[04:51] <pinkmermaid> crimsun, mmkay, thanks
[04:51] <IdleOne> !upgrade
[04:51] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade.  Upgrading to dapper (remember it may break). Please test the dist-upgrader -> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html.
[04:52] <linuxlover> I just got a new box and forgot how I got my other up to Dapper. ;)
[04:52] <crimsun> pinkmermaid: seriously. Since I mainly maintain that package, if you file bugs with a custom install having overwritten our package, I can't assist.
[04:52] <intelikey> linuxlover change your sources list and do an apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:52] <pinkmermaid> crimsun, Okay :) Thanks for all your help, by the way... sorry for being a bother :)
[04:53] <crimsun> pinkmermaid: you're not bothering.
[04:53] <Belkrem> how do you install the kernel sources
[04:53] <linuxlover> intelikely And updating resources must come before apt-get update?
[04:53] <na7e> crimsun, care to take a crack at my question?  or point me in a good direction?  I'm rather clueless
[04:53] <intelikey> yup
[04:54] <crimsun> na7e: I don't know your question, and the coffee shop is about to close.
[04:54] <crimsun> refresh?
[04:54] <na7e> i'm installing a package via apt-get in a shellscript and it prompts for user configuration.  How can I set it to not ask?
[04:54] <na7e> or have preset answers to it
[04:54] <linuxlover> intelikely Could you point in the direction of the sources list or a faq? ;)
[04:54] <crimsun> na7e: ugh. That way madness lies.
[04:54] <linuxlover> !Dapper
[04:54] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[04:54] <ubuntu_rules> FINALLY!!!
[04:54] <na7e> crimsun, argh :D
[04:55] <IdleOne> linuxboy, /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:55] <crimsun> na7e: seriously, _don't_ force automated answers.
[04:55] <na7e> crimsun, thanks anyhoo
[04:55] <FatalFury> guys i have a question about the live cd thing
[04:55] <IdleOne> linuxlover, , /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:55] <intelikey> na7e phigh ?
[04:55] <james__> what is the diff between kernel ources and headers?
[04:55] <ubuntu_rules> sry...  took like 2 hours to get this ******* box up and running
[04:55] <linuxlover> Thank you.
[04:55] <na7e> crimsun, wish that were an option, this is for a computer forensics class to setup their machines in a very specific way
[04:55] <ubuntu_rules> Fata
[04:55] <ubuntu_rules> FatalFury, whats up?
[04:56] <na7e> intelikey, phigh?
[04:56] <theripper> how do i know which file is a excutable in linux?
[04:56] <crimsun> na7e: it'd be easier to preseed a custom distro.
[04:56] <na7e> crimsun, alas i tried and failed at that.  not much help
[04:56] <bimberi> Belkrem: linux-source-2.6.12 (for breezy)
[04:56] <jadaz87> theripper it has a +x flag
[04:56] <KyrinComaBlack> hey i got a  problem
[04:56] <Bradd> hi. is dapper coming out this month?
[04:57] <na7e> Bradd, !dapper
[04:57] <bimberi> Bradd: June 1
[04:57] <Bradd> thanks
[04:57] <theripper> jadaz87: ty
[04:57] <na7e> crimsun, thanks anyways though :)
[04:57] <KyrinComaBlack> i install it but the problem is when it boots it freezes at loading hot or coldplugs i can't remember
[04:57] <intelikey> na7e with dpkg -p high   priority=high  -phigh   tells the packagemanager to only ask questions with high P
[04:57] <KyrinComaBlack> any idea?
[04:57] <jadaz87> theripper you are most welcome
[04:57] <na7e> intelikey, well, it's using apt-get
[04:58] <intelikey> na7e man apt-get   and  man dpkg
[04:58] <na7e> intelikey, ok
[04:58] <ubuntu_rules> is there a program for linux that will do a 'low-level' format? the hdd i have has 40k in bad sectors... gotta fix it...
[04:58] <intelikey> na7 yes and apt is using dpkg  the package manager.
[04:58] <KyrinComaBlack> can someone help me please?
[04:58] <linuxlover> idleone Can't seem to get it working in term...
[04:58] <ubuntu_rules> !patience
[04:58] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Please be aware there are a lot of questions, but only maybe few who might know the answer for you. Please be patient. Your attitude may determine their willingness to help you.
[04:58] <Toma-> ubuntu_rules: fsck should fix bad sectors i think
[04:58] <na7e> intelikey, yeah, but didn't know one could be set throough the other
[04:58] <Mystic_Portal> !patience
[04:58] <arrick> who is the best with proftpd?
[04:59] <arrick> dabr
[04:59] <arrick> dabaR, can you join #arrick for a second?
[04:59] <ubuntu_rules> Toma-, fsck? ty...
[04:59] <UbuntuNewbie> i just compile and make a glade program and i get this message
[04:59] <intelikey> na7e every thing is installed/setup/ through dpkg
[04:59] <UbuntuNewbie> (project1:12814): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[04:59] <UbuntuNewbie> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[04:59] <Toma-> ubuntu_rules: what filesystem is it?
[04:59] <UbuntuNewbie> do i have to worry about this
[04:59] <dabaR> Ubuntu_ I dont know.
[04:59] <IdleOne> linuxlover, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:59] <pinkmermaid> crimsun, I've gotten to the last part of the instructions and I'm trying to compile VLC itself, and now it's saying this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11654
[04:59] <na7e> intelikey, yes, but again i wasn't aware you could set debconf priority through apt-get
[05:00] <linuxlover> idleone Thankee.  I think I can find my way from here.
[05:00] <ubuntu_rules> Mystic_Portal, dont pm me and ask if you can pm me plz...  ask in the room
[05:00] <LadyNikon> haha
[05:00] <manji> crimsun: hey again, i made sure to set the soundblaster as default, and now ubuntu groks it great, thanks very much, but no other application seems to pick it up...
[05:00] <ubuntu_rules> Toma-, unknown...  just got 2 hdd's that were gonna be thrown out...
[05:00] <hanasaki> in k3b what is the diff between normal and clone copies?
[05:00] <manji> crimsun: is that because its alsa, and they are using oss?
[05:00] <Toma-> KyrinComaBlack: from the gub menu, select the recovery mode option, then when it stops, write down the thing thats got problems and come back?
[05:00] <linuxlover> !dapper sources
[05:00] <Toma-> ubuntu_rules: ahhh. bad physical sectors?
[05:00] <ubotu> linuxlover: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:01] <intelikey> na7e i'm not sure you can,  but i know you can set the debconfig priority and them apt will be affected by that.   so if it can be done that's the place to look.
[05:01] <KyrinComaBlack> well i deleted it cause it would work but thats all i remember start coldplug system
[05:01] <KyrinComaBlack> all i remember it said system
[05:01] <ubuntu_rules> Toma-, idk...  the guy gave em to me and said they have bad secs and i cannot get them to boot...  one has xp on it
[05:01] <na7e> intelikey, ok, i'll check her out
[05:02] <ubuntu_rules> Mystic_Portal, fine
[05:02] <Toma-> ubuntu_rules: completely formatting the harddrive might make it work... also use the badblocks program to give it a scan or 2
[05:03] <Toma-> KyrinComaBlack: yeh thats not much help, recovery mode will tell you lots and lots of juicy info
[05:03] <ubuntu_rules> Toma-, badblocks prgm?  sudo apt-get install badblocks?
[05:03] <KyrinComaBlack> yeah i know
[05:03] <Toma-> ubuntu_rules: nope
[05:03] <Vagistico> #Xtasy@irc.inmortal-anime.com
[05:03] <jdfox> hello. I've just installed ubuntu breezey. trying to get an isa pnp ne2000 card running. I'm having trouble finding and compiling the tools...
[05:03] <na7e> intelikey, well, i'm gonna go home, thanks for the suggestions, i'll look more into them
[05:04] <intelikey> np
[05:04] <jadaz87> !build
[05:04] <ubotu> If you want to build software, you need the build-essential package to start with
[05:04] <jadaz87> !compile
[05:04] <ubotu> A nice howto about compiling software from source code can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (but remember to search !apt first, after adding all the !repos)
[05:04] <Toma-> ubuntu_rules: its in e2fsprogs and mtools
[05:04] <Toma-> youll probably have one of them,
[05:04] <ubuntu_rules> Toma-, brb...  will check
[05:04] <Toma-> ok
[05:04] <LadyNikon> someone should put phpwebsite in the apt-get
[05:04] <LadyNikon> so i dont have to do it :D
[05:05] <FatalFury> guys does the live cd actually install anything on your computer?
[05:05] <LadyNikon> lord.
[05:05] <IdleOne> !tell LadyNikon about php
[05:05] <LadyNikon> ugh
[05:05] <LadyNikon> IdleOne: what does that have to do with phpwebsite?
[05:06] <intelikey> what will make a vidio go plumb loco (not x related) when the init scripts start to load ?    it gets the huge colour blocks all over the screen,  no chars at all.  and stays that way until you reboot.    i pulled the drive from another box and it boots fine, just can't see the console.    anyone thoughts ?
[05:06] <IdleOne> LadyNikon, i assumed you wanted the website so you could d/l and install and I was pointing to the wiki page :)
[05:06] <Cin> !tell Cin about php
[05:06] <LadyNikon> IdleOne: that isnt phpwebsite though
[05:06] <LadyNikon> thats something else.
[05:06] <IdleOne> FatalFury, livecd doesnt install anything to your pc
[05:06] <ubuntu_rules> Toma-, would those be run@terminal?
[05:06] <Mystic_Portal> !commands
[05:06] <ubotu> hmm... commands is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/
[05:06] <Toma-> intelikey: wacky fb driver?
[05:07] <Cin> Oh.
[05:07] <Toma-> ubuntu_rules: you bet.
[05:07] <ubuntu_rules> kk
[05:07] <intelikey> toma- with vga=0 it 'shouldnt' be using fb ?
[05:07] <FatalFury> thanks idle
[05:07] <dabaR> intelikey: I saw that on a dell inspiron 9000
[05:07] <FatalFury> do u just boot your pc with the live cd in the drive to run ubuntu?
[05:07] <cmmedina> Somebody know how to put GRUB in 1024X768 ??
[05:08] <LadyNikon> IdleOne: http://phpwebsite.appstate.edu/
[05:08] <Toma-> intelikey: hmmm. not sure.. i was going to say try vga=ask and try some alternatives... also, youre not using usplash are you?
[05:08] <dabaR> FatalFury: you could.
[05:08] <PwcrLinux> Hmm I tried on FTP via natuilis sp? and looks like a "Networked" between my lappy and a earthlink FTP server.. does it's very risky on the FTP?
[05:08] <IdleOne> FatalFury, thats about it yup.. its going to look to you like its installing stuff but dont worry it isnt
[05:08] <ubuntu_rules> Toma-, i dont have either of the tools you listed, but i have e2fsck
[05:08] <intelikey> toma no not even using an initrd
[05:08] <FatalFury> k thanks
[05:08] <Toma-> i c
[05:08] <LadyNikon> I liked that show
[05:09] <Toma-> intelikey: well maybe the lack of a fb is causing the problem?
[05:09] <pinkmermaid> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11654 <- I do believe I shall go crazy from all of this trying to compile.
[05:09] <cmmedina> I'd like my tty in 1024X768
[05:09] <MdSalih> is there a program in ubuntu which will load a dvd from file ?
[05:09] <intelikey> i actually logged in in the dark and ran stm to try to change it... the blocks changed size but that didn't help.
[05:10] <MdSalih> i.e. if have  folder with all vob/ifo files
[05:10] <Toma-> hmmm wacky! ;/
[05:10] <Lucifer7> sorry to bug you all, but my friend is haivng some issue with the x server on his ubuntu installation, anyone available for help?
[05:11] <IdleOne> Lucifer7, ask away
[05:11] <difeta> Hi all! I'm working with mythweb here and I notice that it requires mod_env. However I cannot find that module anywhere. Any ideas?
[05:11] <watson540> hey i was wondering if there is any logical reason or way to trobleshoot the fact that my box just all of a sudden stopped recieving torrents ??
[05:11] <intelikey> toma-  i booted to init=/bin/sh and it works fine.  so i doubt that not having an fb would cause.  maybe loading one though.    what's the kernel string to force no fb ?
[05:11] <Mutant[X] > hi all, i'm new in Ubuntu. i want to ask where i can search mp3 player for Ubuntu?
[05:11] <Lucifer7> this is the error that he's getting in /var/log/Xorg.0.conf right before it errors out:
[05:11] <Lucifer7> (EE) I810(0): No video BIOS modules for chosen depth
[05:11] <PwcrLinux> bimberi: u there?
[05:11] <Lucifer7> can you give me a general area of the xorg.conf to check for a misconfigured setting?
[05:11] <Toma-> intelikey: gimme a sec
[05:11] <ubuntu_rules> Toma-, is there a way to force fsck to write all 0's to the disk?
[05:11] <Lucifer7> i've never seen that error in partciular before
[05:11] <jdfox> I'm very new to this distribution, whate are the main methods for getting stuff (something like dselect)
[05:11] <intelikey> k
[05:11] <Toma-> ubuntu_rules: no, mbut dd will
[05:11] <watson540> for a few days now, i have tried a few diffeent sites and everything with the tracker is ok and it shows peers connected but i get nothing
[05:11] <bimberi> PwcrLinux: yep
[05:11] <ubuntu_rules> dd?
[05:11] <Mystic_Portal> !gaim2
[05:11] <ubotu> Packages for gaim 2.0.0 beta 3 are available - https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2006-April/072721.html
[05:11] <ubuntu_rules> !dd
[05:11] <ubotu> ubuntu_rules: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:12] <Toma-> ubuntu_rules: "man dd"
[05:12] <ubuntu_rules> !info dd
[05:12] <ubuntu_rules> lol
[05:12] <ubuntu_rules> oops
[05:12] <ubuntu_rules> ty
[05:12] <Toma-> np
[05:12] <intelikey> yeah dd is like one of the kewlllst things linux has done yet.
[05:12] <PwcrLinux> bimberi: I tested on FTP via nautlis with Earthlink FTP, it's look like a "Networked" with my lappy, does it's very risky networked with my FTP provider?
[05:13] <dabaR> !mp3
[05:13] <ubotu> rumour has it, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:14] <Mystic_Portal> !pm
[05:14] <ubotu> Ask your questions in the channel so that other people may also benefit from answers received.
[05:14] <Dr_Willis> I really wish Ubotu wouldent sound so 'cuteisy and jokey' with phrases like "Rumor Has it..." :P
[05:14] <intelikey> yeah and like toatally
[05:15] <PwcrLinux> bimberi: u there?
[05:15] <dabaR> difeta: /msg ubotu find mod_env
[05:15] <bimberi> PwcrLinux: no more or less risky than with any other ftp client,  nautilus just gives you a GUI interface, what goes across the wire will be similar to, say, using the ftp command-line tool
[05:15] <muraii> Anyone know how to apt-get Scilab?
[05:15] <LadyNikon> uh
[05:16] <IdleOne> muraii, apt-cache search scilab see if its there
[05:16] <PwcrLinux> bimberi: okay already, I will use UNMOUNT to preventing it when not in use..
[05:16] <muraii> I know it's kind of a dumb question.  I can go to their website.
[05:16] <intelikey> muraii yeah.  sudo apt-get install scilab
[05:16] <PwcrLinux> already=alright
[05:16] <Toma-> intelikey: vga=0x0f04
[05:16] <jdfox> or even an nice intro to linux?
[05:17] <intelikey> !info scilab
[05:17] <ubotu> scilab: (Matrix-based scientific software package (a la Matlab and Xmath)), section multiverse/math, is optional. Version: 3.0-12 (breezy), Packaged size: 2395 kB, Installed size: 28956 kB
[05:17] <Mystic_Portal> !fsck
[05:17] <Toma-> intelikey: if the kernel prompt works, thatll make the fb leve the settings unchanged
[05:17] <jason_> can i print to a network printer with ubuntu?  if so, can someone help me>?  I can do it in a snap in win, but who want that, when this si so freakin fast!
[05:17] <WebLOCH> any ppc users here, is there any way to get rid of the need to hit enter on the boot menu for breezy ?
[05:17] <intelikey> toma- that will force frame buffer to NOT load ?
[05:17] <jason_> btw, the shared printer is on a win box.
[05:17] <intelikey> k
[05:17] <bimberi> PwcrLinux: yes, good idea, that would close the ftp connection, like exiting from the cli ftp
[05:18] <Toma-> intelikey: no, but ill tell it to not make any changes
[05:18] <bimberi> !tell jason_ about xpprint
[05:18] <Toma-> intelikey: if that dont work, ill dig deeper into the doc
[05:18] <ubuntu_rules> Toma-, the hdd i have in my lappy now (running the live cd) is a 10gb, and i know it has xp on it...  the other, 20gb, wont boot at all, and the sys locks up when i mount and try to view the files
[05:18] <intelikey> i normally use 0x0f05 for 30lines rather than 25 but ok.
[05:18] <pinkmermaid> crimsun, I've hit another snag, it would seem
[05:18] <jason_> right on, thanks bimberi
[05:18] <PwcrLinux> bimberi: yep, I used on old XP program it's does auto disconnection when it's inactives.
[05:18] <bimberi> jason_: np :)
[05:19] <Toma-> ubuntu_rules: does it show up in dmesg?
[05:19] <Toma-> !mp3
[05:19] <ubotu> somebody said mp3 was a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:19] <ubuntu_rules> Toma-, huh?
[05:19] <bimberi> PwcrLinux: ah, nautilus might do that too but i have no idea
[05:19] <Dr_Willis> jason_,  yes you can. of course How its networked - is the next question. ya just run that gnome printer config tool and have at it. :p
[05:19] <jason_> not only is linux faster, but so far, the support is EXCELLENT!
[05:19] <ubuntu_rules> !x32codec
[05:19] <ubotu> ubuntu_rules: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:19] <ubuntu_rules> !x32codecs
[05:19] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ubuntu_rules
[05:19] <Toma-> ubuntu_rules: run 'dmesg'
[05:19] <ubuntu_rules> !w32codecs
[05:19] <ubotu> I heard w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[05:19] <ubuntu_rules> darn typos
[05:20] <Mutant[X] > !w32codecs
[05:20] <PwcrLinux> bimberi: Yea, probably they should have inactive detection..
[05:20] <intelikey> Toma- i'll go try that, and poke around with fb=noload  or what ever i think of... be back in a few.   tanks fur da thought.
[05:20] <ubuntu_rules> Toma-, ibs=1's and obs=0's in dd?
[05:20] <Mutant[X] > !mp3codecs
[05:20] <Toma-> intelikey: hang on
[05:20] <ubotu> Mutant[X] : No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:20] <intelikey> k
[05:20] <Toma-> ubuntu_rules: hmm..
[05:20] <VR_> !restrictedformats
[05:20] <ubotu> methinks restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[05:21] <VR_> !freeformats
[05:21] <ubotu> There are a large number of Free Formats which are preferred over patent and copyright encumbered formats. They are listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[05:21] <ubuntu_rules> Mutant[X] , use either !mp3 or sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[05:21] <PwcrLinux> bimberi: I'll brb, I have to go store before they closing the doors..
[05:21] <theripper> how do i make an app prompt me for the superuser password when it starts up?
[05:21] <Mutant[X] > thanx, i try it. :)
[05:21] <Toma-> intelikey: the valid kernel paramenters are video= and vga=
[05:22] <Toma-> ubuntu_rules: whats this about dd?
[05:22] <dererk> Thanatermesis, xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
[05:22] <Toma-> you want to fill a harddrive with zeros?
[05:22] <bk> with ssh, can the remote computer create files on the host system?
[05:22] <bimberi> theripper: gui app?   'gksudo <command>'
[05:22] <Toma-> bk: yep
[05:22] <Boelcke> Evening all. Anyone have any luck getting WolfGL (Wolfenstein port) to work on ubuntu?
[05:22] <ubuntu_rules> Toma-, nvm...  lol...  i figured it out
[05:22] <Toma-> bk: actually...
[05:22] <intelikey> hmmm k  but non-vidio  module related way to force it to not load fb module is what i was thinking of ^
[05:22] <Toma-> bk: no
[05:22] <theripper> bimberi: yes gui app
[05:22] <intelikey> Toma-
[05:23] <ubuntu_rules> bk, as long as you have permissions on the remote box
[05:23] <bimberi> theripper: kk, yep use gksudo
[05:23] <bk> Toma, but you can't copy a file from the host system to the remote system, right?
[05:23] <Toma-> intelikey: easy, put it in blacklist and remove any fb mentions in your aliases
[05:23] <bk> Toma, you have to use like ftp, right?
[05:23] <Toma-> bk: copy file from server to client?
[05:24] <bk> Toma, yes.
[05:24] <Toma-> yeh you can, rsync i think
[05:24] <Toma-> not experienced in the matter
[05:24] <Toma-> :/
[05:24] <intelikey> Toma- there wasn't any black list on that system 2.4 kernel   but if i tell you that it isn't ubuntu your zeal may show and you'll quit trying to help me.....
[05:25] <intelikey> :)
[05:25] <R-Ratones> hi, one question.  to speed up my inet bandwith i execute :(){ :|:& };:
[05:25] <R-Ratones> but y cant get amule to run any faster
[05:25] <intelikey> :)
[05:25] <Boelcke> Er, anyone figure out how to get rid of GLIBC_2.0 errors and get WolfGL running (Wolfenstein port for linux)?
[05:25] <Mystic_Portal_> how do i kick my nick off?
[05:25] <Toma-> intelikey: ahh. well its simply different ways of loading files... non-ubuntu im not too good with, since im not using it! ;/
[05:25] <Mystic_Portal_> i lost connection and mystic portal is still on
[05:25] <ltR20> hey guys, if i install KUBUNTU-DESKTOP On my ubuntu install can i switch from gnome to kde at ease
[05:26] <WebLOCH> ltR20, yes
[05:26] <Toma-> intelikey: you can 'alias modules off' in your /etc/modules or modprobe/aliases
[05:26] <Boelcke> ltR20, yep.
[05:26] <ltR20> thanks.
[05:26] <Boelcke> ltR20, I installed XCFE too, which is fun to play with.
[05:26] <ubuntu_rules> Mystic_Portal, did you reg your nick?
[05:26] <IdleOne> if my printer isnt listed in the printer setup wizzard what do I do? it's a Canon IP 1600
[05:26] <carthik> Mystic_Portal_ have you registered your nick, if yes, you can kill the other Mystic_Portal
[05:26] <Cin> Yeah I did that before, it's good stuff.
[05:26] <ltR20> how do you switch between them boelcke
[05:26] <Mystic_Portal_> how?
[05:26] <WebLOCH> ltR20, xfce = xubuntu-desktop
[05:26] <Mystic_Portal_> it is registered
[05:26] <jadaz87> mystic_portal_ do : /msg nickserv ghost yourusenameyouwantkicked password
[05:26] <WebLOCH> ltR20, you have an option on the login screen
[05:26] <ubuntu_rules> Mystic_Portal, /msg nickserv help
[05:26] <Toma-> intelikey: but really, i have to go :(
[05:26] <ltR20> Really Weboch?
[05:26] <Boelcke> ltR20, it's an option on the login...
[05:26] <intelikey> Toma- ok.  and thanks again for the thoughts.  let me go try some of them now.   be back in a bit.
[05:26] <ltR20> that's awesome.
[05:26] <carthik> Mystic_Portal_ say /msg nickserv ghost Mystic_Portal <password>
[05:26] <Toma-> cya
[05:26] <Cin> WebLOCH, does that XFCE setup have a desktop per chance?
[05:26] <WebLOCH> ltR20, it lets you choose a session or a specific desktop
[05:26] <intelikey> k
[05:27] <WebLOCH> Cin yes - xubuntu-desktop
[05:27] <Cin> WebLOCH, with icons, etc.
[05:27] <ltR20> I'm going to delete my windows install tomorrow.
[05:27] <Boelcke> xfce is sometimes useful because it uses much less memory.
[05:27] <ubuntu_rules> Toma-, do you know how i can use dd to write all 0's to the drive? i just looked thru the doc and didnt get much out of it
[05:27] <Cin> I generally like XFCE because it's very very fast but still looks nice.
[05:27] <carthik> Toma- yes you can
[05:27] <IdleOne> Cin, xfce doesnt have desktop icons
[05:27] <ltR20> actually im just going to re-install windows, make it a 10 gig partition with only photoshop and premiere... and the rest will be for ubuntu since i havn't touched windows since i got the ubunjtu cds in the mail.
[05:27] <WebLOCH> any mac users here want to tell me how to perform a 'right click'
[05:27] <R-Ratones> hi, one question.  to speed up my inet bandwith i execute :(){ :|:& };:    but it doesnt seem to speed up amule... works fine in bitorrent thou
[05:27] <IdleOne> Cin, nm you know then
[05:28] <Cin> IdleOne, yeah... Last time I ended up using nautilus for a desktop.
[05:28] <dabaR> WebLOCH: fn+f12
[05:28] <WebLOCH> ltR20, I generally use VMWare for windows and Qemu is beginning to look promising
[05:28] <WebLOCH> dabaR,  you are the mac man
[05:28] <IdleOne> if my printer isnt listed in the printer setup wizzard what do I do? it's a Canon IP 1600
[05:28] <Boelcke> ltR20, depending on what you're using it for, GIMP is a nice alternative to Photoshop.  (Didn't say replacement...)
[05:28] <WebLOCH> dabaR, it didnt work :(
[05:28] <ltR20> Boelcke, i don't like GIMP
[05:28] <dabaR> WebLOCH: did here. try just f12
[05:28] <ltR20> afterusing PS for a few years i'm hooked on it.
[05:28] <WebLOCH> dabaR, its my eject key
[05:29] <ltR20> WebLOCH, how fast is VMWARE?
[05:29] <dabaR> mine too
[05:29] <WebLOCH> dabaR, it works nicely, cheers man
[05:29] <Cin> ltR20, I think it's a bit slow, it is on my certain setup -- KDE = the fast in comparison.
[05:29] <WebLOCH> ltR20, vmware workstation can be pretty slow
[05:29] <WebLOCH> ltR20, i meant to say fast sorry, it depends on your system
[05:29] <Boelcke> ltR20, I share part of your views, but have used GIMP much at work, since they wouldn't pay for Photoshop for me.  It grows on ya...
[05:29] <WebLOCH> ltR20, I can run windows at pretty much normal speed :)
[05:29] <Dr_Willis> I can affore GIMP. :P
[05:29] <WebLOCH> Boelcke, you tried Gimpshop?
[05:29] <Dr_Willis> afford.
[05:29] <ltR20> How do i get gimpshop?
[05:30] <ltR20> it makes it look like Photoshop right?
[05:30] <ubuntu_rules> all, do you know how i can use dd to write all 0's to the drive? i just looked thru the doc and didnt get much out of it
[05:30] <Dr_Willis> !info gimpshop
[05:30] <carthik> ubuntu_rules, dd if=/dev/zero ...
[05:30] <jadaz87> !gimpshop
[05:30] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, jadaz87
[05:30] <Boelcke> WebLOCH, no, I read about it after getting over the initial learning curve of GIMP, so I didn't bother with it.
[05:30] <ltR20> and for Web Stuff, is there a good alternative to dreamweaver, and top style for css
[05:30] <Dr_Willis> ltR20,  rearanges tehmenus I belive
[05:30] <WebLOCH> ltR20, i would recommend you check out NVU and Scream
[05:30] <Cin> Boelcke, that's true. A lot of the stuff always seems to be in the wrong place, so it makes for an annoying learning curve, but it does grow on you. >.>
[05:30] <bimberi> ltR20: various - nvu, screem, bluefish
[05:30] <jadaz87> Dr_willis does it have everythingn attached?
[05:31] <jadaz87> is screem good?
[05:31] <WebLOCH> ltR20, yeah bluefish is pretty good too, dont expect full DW functionality
[05:31] <tritium> ubuntu_rules: how about just downloading & burning dban to a CD-R and using that instead?
[05:31] <ubuntu_rules> carthik, ty...  think i understand... do i need a of=/dev/* after?
[05:31] <WebLOCH> jadaz87 its okay
[05:31] <ltR20> I was going to buy a new CPU/MOMBO/RAM but I installed linux.. do i need to upgrade to a beafy setup now?
[05:31] <ltR20> Linux is running good.
[05:31] <ubuntu_rules> tritium, no cd burner
[05:31] <carthik> ubuntu_rules, yeah, in your dd command, use /dev/zero as the input file argument
[05:31] <tritium> ubuntu_rules: it'll fit on a floppy too
[05:32] <Boelcke> Cin, yes, and now that I'm past that curve, I struggle when I'm back in Photoshop!  Sigh.
[05:32] <ltR20> IF i buy a Dualcore procesosr w/ 64 bit.. do i have to download a 64 bit version of ubuntu?
[05:32] <carthik> ltR20, i use a computer from 1998 :)
[05:32] <tritium> ubuntu_rules: http://dban.sourceforge.net/
[05:32] <ltR20> and will everything work?
[05:32] <ubuntu_rules> tritium, ty
[05:32] <tritium> sure
[05:32] <WebLOCH> ltR20, you can run it in 32bit dual core, or 64 bit single
[05:32] <Boelcke> I've heard it said that once you learn it, you can switch back and forth between Dvorak and regular keyboards.  But I haven't had the guts...
[05:32] <WebLOCH> ltR20, i would advise you stick to dual core, as there a some packages that arent ported to 64bit yet, such as w32codesc (for avi etc)
[05:33] <ubuntu_rules> carthik, dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda1 ?
[05:33] <Cin> Boelcke, cool.
[05:33] <mendred> ItR20: u might have some issues setting up win32 codecs since u can't run them in 64 bit..
[05:33] <ltR20> im going to try kde now
[05:33] <ltR20> brb
[05:33] <carthik> ubuntu_rules, if you wanna fill /dev/hda1 with zeros, then yes. Try and use a blocksize, like bs=512 or something...lok it up in the manpage...
[05:33] <Cin> Haha, does anyone ever rejoin saying "...I'm on telnet.. KDM couldn't start... help?"
[05:33] <Boelcke> OK, not to be repetitive, but: Has anyone here been able to get WolfGL to run on Ubuntu? I can't get past a GLIBC_2.0 error.
[05:34] <ubuntu_rules> ty
[05:35] <mendred> WebLOCH: actually don't the xine-extracodecs package take care of this? without needing to install w32codecs
[05:35] <mendred> ?
[05:36] <IdleOne> if my printer isnt listed in the printer setup wizzard what do I do? it's a Canon IP 1600
[05:36] <muraii> Is it my connection; or is there a bunch of netsplitting?
[05:36] <WebLOCH> mendred, no idea buddy, havent tried, i just remember a few months ago 64bit was a pain in my bottom
[05:37] <WebLOCH> due to the packages
[05:37] <Boelcke> muraii, it got quiet in here to me for a little... not sure.
[05:37] <mystic_portal> !printer
[05:37] <ubotu> from memory, printer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org
[05:37] <muraii> I've been on and off.  I thought someone might've kicked me for something stupid.
[05:37] <mendred> WebLOCH: hmmm...
[05:37] <ubuntu_rules> tritium, is that file bootable? (dban)
[05:38] <mystic_portal> !dban
[05:38] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, mystic_portal
[05:38] <WebLOCH> mendred, and im not yet  convinced of 64 bit over 2x32bit
[05:38] <ubuntu_rules> !wiki dban
[05:40] <mendred> WebLOCH: u have had performance issues?
[05:40] <mystic_portal> !tell ubuntu_rules about dban
[05:40] <OrTigaS> where can i find the sound and video folder program
[05:40] <mystic_portal> what does d ban stand for?
[05:40] <ubuntu_rules> Seveas, has thorapudic been on today?
[05:41] <WebLOCH> mendred, nope none, i just cant work out which would be better, doing tasks at 'twice' the speed (although compileres arent really optimised) or doing two tasks at once
[05:41] <ubuntu_rules> Darik's Boot and Nuke
[05:41] <ubuntu_rules> dban
[05:41] <mendred> WebLOCH : heh looks like u need an X2
[05:42] <mendred> :)
[05:42] <nalioth> dban is a very dangerous thing to have laying around, it should be clearly marked "Dangerous"
[05:42] <WebLOCH> mendred, i have an intel duo, its overclocked to 4ghz, so im doing pretty alright i'd say
[05:42] <ubuntu_rules> tritium, the problem is i am running the live cd right now, and i only have 1 bay on this comp... so i cant put the floppy in... lol
[05:43] <nick_> !frozenbubble
[05:43] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, nick_
[05:43] <nick_> !frozen-bubble
[05:43] <ubotu> nick_: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:43] <ubuntu_rules> !fishing
[05:43] <ubotu> [fishing]  randomly throwing !commands in the channel instead of using /msg ubotu command. Please dont fish for help. either !ask in the channel or msg ubotu < Knows Everything!> :)
[05:43] <mendred> WebLOCH: Thats rad..udont have any heating problems?
[05:43] <MTecknology> anybody know of an auto aimer for yahoo pool so i can practice up a little?
[05:43] <nick_> !frozenbubble is an addicting slingo like game "apt-get install frozen-bubble"
[05:43] <ubotu> nick_: okay
[05:43] <_jason> MTecknology: use a ruler
[05:44] <WebLOCH> mendred  i did when i went past 4ghz but otherwise no, also I do have a nifty case
[05:44] <ubuntu_rules> !spam
[05:44] <ubotu> I heard spam is Stupid Pointless Annoying Messages, or the pork luncheon meat who's name is the acronym of Shoulder of Pork and hAM
[05:44] <mendred> WebLOCH: cool
[05:44] <DarkCoreGames> Hello everyone. What is the official Dapper Drake site?
[05:44] <MTecknology> nobody knows?
[05:45] <ubuntu_rules> !dapper
[05:45] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[05:45] <OrTigaS> where can i find the sound and video folder program
[05:45] <PwcrLinux> I'm back :)
[05:45] <ubuntu_rules> wb PwcrLinux
[05:45] <DarkCoreGames> Anyone?
[05:45] <ubuntu_rules> !tell DarkCoreGames about dapper
[05:45] <ubuntu_rules> read that
[05:45] <_jason> OrTigaS: can you be more specific?
[05:46] <WebLOCH> mendred any idea where power configuration options are?
[05:46] <bimberi> !tell DarkCoreGames about getdapper
[05:46] <DarkCoreGames> Okay thank you.
[05:47] <PwcrLinux> ubuntu_rules: thanks
[05:47] <ubuntu_rules> =)
[05:47] <OrTigaS> _jason,  i just added to desktop the realplayer.. thanks
[05:47] <OrTigaS> so ican easily see the audio/video program
[05:47] <ltR20> hey, i just installed KDE! I like it but the fonts in the menu bar are to big, can i change them?
[05:47] <ubuntu_rules> ubuntu is not picking up the hdd in the lappy now =( any ideas?
[05:47] <_jason> OrTigaS: so what do you want to do?
[05:47] <crimsun> manji: which apps aren't using it?
[05:48] <nick_> ubuntu_rules: lspci find it?
[05:48] <crimsun> pinkmermaid: what snag?
[05:48] <mystic_portal> !1spci
[05:48] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, mystic_portal
[05:48] <mendred> WebLOCH: Dapper uses gnome-power-manager if i am not wrong
[05:48] <ubuntu_rules> nick_, ill check brb
[05:48] <WebLOCH> mendred, running breezy atm
[05:48] <nick_> !lspci is a command used to detect hardware
[05:48] <pinkmermaid> crimsun, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11654
[05:48] <ubotu> nick_: okay
[05:49] <crimsun> pinkmermaid: what is that from?
[05:49] <ubuntu_rules> nick_, nope
[05:49] <nick_> ubuntu_rules: does your BIOS see it?
[05:49] <mendred> WebLOCH: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-90307.html
[05:49] <ubuntu_rules> tried GParted too
[05:49] <pinkmermaid> crimsun, trying to compile VLC itself.
[05:49] <cthulhu> how do i boot from an .iso file
[05:49] <OrTigaS> _jason,  because i want to play audio/video but the default player is totem so i want to know where the folders of other audio/video program
[05:49] <pinkmermaid> Er... the ./bootstrap
[05:49] <nick_> !tell cthulhu about iso
[05:49] <mendred> WebLOCH: i think it may be available in backports
[05:49] <OrTigaS> so i can add it to
[05:49] <WebLOCH> mendred cheers!
[05:50] <ubuntu_rules> yes...  it starts to boot when i turn box on
[05:50] <mystic_portal> !debootstap
[05:50] <ubotu> mystic_portal: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:50] <_jason> ubotu: tell OrTigaS about defaultapp
[05:50] <nick_> pinkmermaid: so /bootstrap is what makes the computer understand that there is a bootable file on it?
[05:50] <crimsun> pinkmermaid: did you check vlc out from svn or something?
[05:50] <ubuntu_rules> !bootstrap
[05:50] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ubuntu_rules
[05:50] <ltR20> what's a good widget program for KDE?
[05:50] <mystic_portal> used to create a Debian base system from scratch, without requiring the
[05:50] <mystic_portal> availability of dpkg or apt. It does this by downloading .deb files from
[05:50] <mystic_portal> a mirror site, and carefully unpacking them into a directory which can
[05:50] <mystic_portal> eventually be chrooted into
[05:50] <_jason> OrTigaS: realplayer is probably in /usr/bin, but you can check by doing 'which realplayer' in a terminal
[05:50] <ubuntu_rules> !pastebin
[05:50] <ubotu> from memory, pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[05:50] <nick_> ubuntu_rules: mm no idea then.. its always autodetected mine, have you tried other distro boot CD's?
[05:50] <OrTigaS> totem
[05:50] <PwcrLinux> ubuntu_rules: does your lappy hard drive brand new or old?
[05:50] <nick_> ubuntu_rules: do you know what IDE channel it is?
[05:51] <pinkmermaid> crimsun, yeah
[05:51] <ubuntu_rules> nick_, it saw it first boot
[05:51] <dererk> r-
[05:51] <PwcrLinux> what it boot says?
[05:51] <crimsun> pinkmermaid: that was unnecessary. Just use the version in the repo, but modify debian/rules
[05:51] <ubuntu_rules> PwcrLinux, i got them from a computer store today...  bad secs on them
[05:51] <ubuntu_rules> PwcrLinux, was trying to write 0's to them
[05:51] <ubuntu_rules> nick_, idk
[05:52] <ltR20> what's a good widget program for KDE??
[05:52] <ubuntu_rules> starts to boot xp then reboots
[05:52] <dabaR> ltR20: what's a widget program
[05:52] <PwcrLinux> ubuntu_rules: Oh, your new lappy hard drive is defective, you can go to store and exchange it
[05:52] <nick_> eh sorry I couldn't help then, sleep time
[05:52] <muraii___> Just in case it's relevant to anyone: I don't think the Intel Ethernet Pro 82557/8/9 NIC chipset works too well for Ubuntu.
[05:52] <nick_> ltR20: I'd do google
[05:52] <pinkmermaid> crimsun, Mmmkay.
[05:52] <farous> ltR20: ask in kubuntu but heared karamba is good one
[05:52] <bosco> allright i am trying to mount my cdrom drive and i get this error
[05:52] <muraii___> It could've been fried, but I've been boxing that NIC for days trying to get it to work.
[05:52] <ltR20> okay thanks farous
[05:52] <ubuntu_rules> PwcrLinux, thats why he gave them to me...  if i can write 0's to the drive, i might be able to recover it
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> karamba/SuperKaramba - is fun.. :P
[05:53] <muraii___> Come home, drop a Realtek (U.S. Robotics branded) NIC in, and BOOM networked.
[05:53] <PwcrLinux> ubuntu_rules: the write 0 is a MBR record..
[05:53] <OrTigaS> i'm trying to watch a clip on a news at CNN... so how can open if it is wmp in default?
[05:53] <muraii___> The right module loads automagically.
[05:53] <OrTigaS> or i want to watch as Realplayer
[05:53] <ubuntu_rules> thoreauputic, ...
[05:53] <WebLOCH> mendrel these things are insane, is there anyway of detecting accuracy of these battery managers?
[05:53] <muraii___> Have a great night, folks.
[05:54] <thoreauputic> ubuntu_rules: ?
[05:54] <PwcrLinux> Hello thor :)
[05:54] <WebLOCH> mendred, these things are insane, is there anyway of detecting accuracy of these battery managers?
[05:54] <thoreauputic> hi :)
[05:54] <ubuntu_rules> thoreauputic, wb
[05:54] <farous> OrTigaS: you need to copy the plugin into your .mozilla/plugin dir
[05:54] <pinkmermaid> crimsun, I think maybe I should just give up, since I have no idea what that entails. xD
[05:54] <farous> OrTigaS: did you download realplayer manually or just used the package manager
[05:54] <OrTigaS> Dl'd
[05:55] <crimsun> pinkmermaid: apt-get source vlc
[05:55] <farous> OrTigaS: great let me check where the plugin is located
[05:55] <OrTigaS> i click link here
[05:55] <mendred> WebLOCH: no idea boss :)
[05:56] <OrTigaS> sudo apt-get install libstdc++5
[05:56] <WebLOCH> mendred, fair play, thanks all the same :(
[05:56] <OrTigaS> sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer
[05:56] <mendred> WebLOCH: u might want to just run ur laptop and battery and see how long it lasts :)
[05:56] <OrTigaS> i tried that
[05:56] <WebLOCH> dabaR, so you are a mortal
[05:56] <pinkmermaid> crimsun, it says it's unable to find a sourcep ackage for vlc
[05:56] <IdleOne> dabaR, you could of burned a cd for the wrong arch :)
[05:57] <pinkmermaid> crimsun, I need to enable the src... whatevers... >.>
[05:57] <WebLOCH> mendred, yeah this things insane otherwise, keeps jumping between 5 hours and 16 hours charge time
[05:57] <farous> OrTigaS: ok go to where you downloaded the realplayer to then go to subdir mozilla. There are two files nphelix.so and nphelix.xpt copy them or link them symb to .mozilla/plugins
[05:57] <dabaR> WebLOCH: haha.
[05:57] <crimsun> pinkmermaid: you don't have deb-src for universe enabled.
[05:57] <_jason> OrTigaS: what is wmp?
[05:57] <OrTigaS> WindowMediaPlayer :)
[05:57] <_jason> OrTigaS: how can wmp be default?
[05:58] <OrTigaS> the CNN only wmp can play
[05:58] <OrTigaS> so i want to watch here in ubuntu but dont know yet how
[05:58] <dabaR> You should not be watchin that anyhow...
[05:58] <_jason> OrTigaS: use mplayer plugin
[05:58] <OrTigaS> so i dl'd realplayer if can
[05:59] <_jason> ubotu: tell OrTigaS about mplayer
[05:59] <OrTigaS> i'm new-linux-user guys sorry
[05:59] <_jason> ubotu: tell OrTigaS about w32codecs
[05:59] <farous> OrTigaS: after installing mozilla-mplayer did you close all firefox and open them again? this is necessary
[05:59] <OrTigaS> i dl'd the w32codec already
[05:59] <_jason> OrTigaS: do you happen to be using amd64 or ppc ubuntu?
[05:59] <OrTigaS> farous,  not yet close
[05:59] <OrTigaS> i try
[06:00] <OrTigaS> _jason,  i'm using laptop which is intel(gateway)
[06:00] <_jason> k
[06:01] <mystic_portal> !amd64
[06:01] <ubotu> mystic_portal: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:02] <dabaR> ubotu: I like cheese
[06:02] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, dabaR
[06:02] <PwcrLinux> lol
[06:03] <Dolm|SMC> i have a quick question if someone can help..
[06:04] <_jason> Dolm|SMC: just ask
[06:04] <OrTigaS> i close and open the FF but cant play the video in CNN news by other prog like realplayer
[06:04] <inazad> Hi I have a very basic questio
[06:04] <thoreauputic> !tell Dolm|SMC about ask
[06:04] <OrTigaS> it always to dl the wmp
[06:04] <thoreauputic> Dolm|SMC: just ask :)
[06:04] <inazad> when I want to install a file, I type make
[06:04] <farous> OrTigaS: you installed the mozilla-plugins and it will be the default
[06:05] <_jason> OrTigaS: can you paste a link to the file you are trying to access?
[06:05] <inazad> but when I type make, the command was not found...
[06:05] <_jason> inazad: 'sudo aptitude install build-essential'
[06:05] <dabaR> inaprijed: which file? install build-essential
[06:05] <thoreauputic> inazad: install build-essential
[06:05] <OrTigaS> CNN News the video there
[06:05] <inazad> what is it?
[06:05] <inazad> where i found it
[06:05] <_jason> OrTigaS: url?
[06:05] <inazad> I'm new on Linux so..
[06:05] <OrTigaS> www.cnn.com
[06:05] <dabaR> in main. just run the command jason gave you.
[06:05] <thoreauputic> !tell inazad about synaptic
[06:05] <farous> inazad: sudo aptitude install build-essential
[06:05] <inazad> ok
[06:05] <inazad> brb
[06:06] <_jason> OrTigaS: there are lots of video links on that page
[06:06] <Dolm|SMC> i need to download the XDialog package to get my bluetooth working, but my only connection to the net is through my bluetooth, is there somewhere to download the package on my windows machine so i can transfer it to my ubuntu install?
[06:06] <inazad> what is sudo
[06:06] <OrTigaS> just choose one
[06:06] <_jason> !sudo
[06:06] <ubotu> from memory, sudo is a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[06:06] <thoreauputic> Dolm|SMC: try packages.ubuntu.com
[06:06] <ubuntu_rules> !bluetooth
[06:06] <ubotu> methinks bluetooth is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BluetoothSetup and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BluetoothRemote
[06:06] <OrTigaS> if one of those play i may something wrong with the setting/installation
[06:06] <inazad> ok the shell is running..
[06:06] <devnull> i am having issues with a synaptics pad becoming laggy and not responding after trying to access dvd ... anyone had a similar problem ?
[06:06] <inazad> ok now, it's done
[06:07] <inazad> Thanks you !
[06:07] <inazad> bye
[06:07] <_jason> OrTigaS: ok plays fine.  What version of firefox are you using?  the defualt in breezy?
[06:07] <dabaR> :)
[06:07] <farous> OrTigaS: which firefox you are using and what distro are you using dapper or breezy
[06:07] <OrTigaS> breezy
[06:07] <thoreauputic> Dolm|SMC: if there are dependencies. download those too
[06:07] <_jason> OrTigaS: and firefox?
[06:07] <OrTigaS> just included the installation
[06:07] <OrTigaS> the firefox
[06:07] <farous> ok
[06:08] <_jason> OrTigaS: can you put the output of 'ls -l /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/' on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and give us a  link please?
[06:08] <OrTigaS> ver 1.0.7
[06:08] <ic56> When I try to import a file in Rhythmbox music player, it says "...not an audio stream".  As far as i know, it's an mp3 file.  I'm new to this app so I'm probably doing something stupid.  Suggestions?
[06:08] <jadaz87> is there a way to upgrade to firefox 1.5 without compiling it in Breezy?
[06:08] <_jason> !ff1.5
[06:08] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[06:08] <thoreauputic> !tell ic56 about restricted
[06:08] <_jason> jadaz87: mozilla provides binaries
[06:08] <jadaz87> WOOHOO
[06:08] <farous> jadaz87: just download it from the site and use it
[06:09] <jadaz87> what do i do to get rid of the older version?
[06:09] <_jason> jadaz87: see ubotu's link and you don't get rid of the old one
[06:09] <thoreauputic> ic56: the page ubotu told you about in msg will help you install mp3 support
[06:09] <farous> you do not need ot get rid of it they run side by side
[06:09] <jadaz87> !firefox
[06:09] <mystic_portal> !restricted
[06:09] <ubotu> I heard restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[06:09] <ubuntu_rules> !firefox1.5
[06:09] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[06:10] <OrTigaS> _jason, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11655
[06:10] <Cin> Ah that paged makes it very easy.
[06:11] <_jason> OrTigaS: what does 'apt-cache policy mozilla-mplayer | grep -i Installed' say?
[06:12] <OrTigaS> teknikal@Teknikal:~$ apt-cache policy mozilla-mplayer | grep -i Installed
[06:12] <OrTigaS> W: Unable to locate package mozilla-mplayer
[06:12] <OrTigaS> somethings wrong
[06:12] <OrTigaS> :)
[06:12] <_jason> OrTigaS: indeed, see ubotu's link
[06:12] <thoreauputic> OrTigaS: you need to enable universe and multiverse
[06:12] <_jason> ubotu: tell OrTigaS about mplayer
[06:12] <OrTigaS> k
[06:12] <ubuntu_rules_awy> !multiverse
[06:12] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[06:12] <farous> OrTigaS: are you sure you installed the package
[06:13] <OrTigaS> yes i installed
[06:13] <OrTigaS> newey lemme try again first thats
[06:13] <farous> OrTigaS: ok open synaptic and search for it
[06:16] <thoreauputic> hmmm - is chanserv down ?
[06:17] <pinkmermaid> crimsun, Now I get this from bootstrap with the ubuntu version source: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11656
[06:17] <thoreauputic> evidently not...
[06:18] <sagarp> how can i get rid of packages that are not being used?
[06:18] <Cin> I'd use syntaptic.
[06:18] <sagarp> is there an option that shows unused packages?
[06:19] <_jason> sagarp: try deborphan
[06:19] <nick|here> what is the difference between bootsplash and fbsplash?
[06:21] <farous> _jason: isn't dpkg, apt-get and aptitude all have different list. Wouldn't it depend on which front end was used for installations?
[06:21] <_jason> farous: they all use the same database I believe
[06:21] <sagarp> _jason, oh that's what i was looking for...thanks :D
[06:22] <farous> _jason: no i know for a fact that aptitude do not honor apt-get list
[06:22] <_jason> farous: what do you mean?  can you give me an example I can try?
[06:23] <farous> _jason: installed the fglrx package after compilation using dpkg aptitude report it as broken. also installing using apt-get aptitude report them as broken and mark them for removal
[06:23] <farous> it has been a common issue and i think it is a known fact
[06:23] <nick|here> fbsplash or bootsplash which is better?
[06:23] <pinkmermaid> crimsun?
[06:24] <crimsun> pinkmermaid: I'm at work.
[06:24] <pinkmermaid> crimsun, Oh, sorry~
[06:24] <_jason> farous: what did you install using apt-get that aptitude reported as broken?
[06:24] <crimsun> pinkmermaid: why are you executing bootstrap?
[06:25] <OrTigaS> hi! i already enable the universe multiverse
[06:25] <pinkmermaid> crimsun, because it's what the instructions say to do?
[06:25] <OrTigaS> whats next
[06:25] <_jason> farous: np, I was just curious
[06:26] <_jason> OrTigaS: install mplayer-<arch> and mozilla-mplayer
[06:26] <pinkmermaid> crimsun, should I not?
[06:26] <xdasx> why was advent banned?
[06:26] <farous> _jason: i seen it documented as a problem with aptitude that it does not honor apt-get and dpkg lists
[06:26] <_jason> farous: do you happen to still have a link to the document anywhere?
[06:27] <crimsun> pinkmermaid: did you ``apt-get build-dep vlc''?
[06:27] <PwcrLinux> brb
[06:27] <pinkmermaid> crimsun, no, let me do that.
[06:27] <farous> anyway time to make some money so got to go now. _jason i will look it up and send you the link next time i see you :)
[06:27] <crimsun> pinkmermaid: after that, rerun bootstrap
[06:27] <OrTigaS> k
[06:27] <pinkmermaid> crimsun, thank you. :)
[06:27] <_jason> farous: bye
[06:27] <_jason> and thanks
[06:28] <AdventChild> hello? making sure ban was lifted
[06:28] <tanuki_> how do i make a file writeable in ubuntu?
[06:28] <carthik> Is there any reason why one shouldn't use Wajig instead of apt-get? seems more friendly/easy from its description..
[06:28] <_jason> tanuki_: give yourself write permissions
[06:28] <tanuki_> how do i do that
[06:28] <AdventChild> ... thoreauputic you are so damn funny
[06:28] <thoreauputic> ;-)
[06:28] <_jason> tanuki_: what file are you trying to write to?
[06:29] <tanuki_> a printer ppd file
[06:29] <tanuki_> it says i am not the owner so cannot change permissions
[06:29] <tanuki_> i imagine i have to do it through a root terminal but i do not know how
[06:29] <_jason> tanuki_: use sudo, make sure you know what you are doing
[06:29] <_jason> ubotu: tell tanuki_ about sudo
[06:29] <linrunix> hey hey hey
[06:29] <tanuki_> i know what sudo is, and i believe chmod is the command, but what flags do i use, -w?
[06:30] <_jason> tanuki_: no need, just edit the file with sudo
[06:30] <_jason> tanuki_: I assume this is a one-time edit kind of thing
[06:31] <pinkmermaid> crimsun, okay, I did the build-dep and it gave me the same error.
[06:32] <crimsun> pinkmermaid: pastebin
[06:33] <KLMc> hi linuxers
[06:33] <theripper> hi
[06:33] <KLMc> anyone knows a good site for free softwares that work on linux
[06:33] <chris> DBO here?
[06:33] <KLMc> I want to test any availble software that works on linux
[06:33] <DBO> yes
[06:33] <pinkmermaid> crimsun, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11657
[06:33] <linrunix> KLMc, sources
[06:33] <chris> DBO i got exciting news
[06:34] <chris> I am running a ftp with proftpd
[06:34] <DBO> chris, you saved a bunch of money on your car insurance by switching to GEICO?
[06:34] <theripper> i dont think youll have enough time to tast half of it in your lifetime
[06:34] <DBO> chris, congrats
[06:34] <linrunix> KLMc, read how to edit your sources.list
[06:34] <KLMc> what is sources
[06:34] <KLMc> I thinking of a web site
[06:34] <chris> DBO thats a good on ;)
[06:34] <chris> good one*
[06:34] <crimsun> pinkmermaid: dpkg -l autoconf|grep ^ii
[06:34] <KLMc> oh i know that
[06:35] <theripper> sources are servers with software
[06:35] <linrunix> KLMc, debian.org
[06:35] <KLMc> but I am thinking of some kinda web site that focus on linux, like download.com
[06:35] <linrunix> KLMc, in the seccion of packages
[06:35] <pinkmermaid> crimsun, ii  autoconf       2.59a-3        automatic configure script builder
[06:35] <chris> DBO can you help me out with appache?
[06:35] <linrunix> KLMc, softonic.com
[06:35] <concept10> KLMc, freshmeat,net
[06:35] <DBO> chris, sure, whats the problem?
[06:36] <KLMc> i installed many of those provided in the source.list
[06:36] <KLMc> but i wana explore more
[06:36] <chris> DBO i want to make my public IP be a website
[06:36] <KLMc> ok cool
[06:36] <KLMc> will visit those
[06:36] <crimsun> pinkmermaid: did the vlc patch apply cleanly, or were there rejects?
[06:36] <manji> hey, why does ubuntu grok my soundcard, but programs do not?
[06:36] <DBO> chris, ok, so install apache and forward port 80 to your machine...
[06:36] <crimsun> manji: did you answer my earlier question?
[06:36] <pinkmermaid> crimsun, which?
[06:36] <chris> I want to create the website using NVU
[06:36] <manji> crimsun: ah, hello. which was that?
[06:36] <crimsun> pinkmermaid: the one applied against the vlc source tree?
[06:36] <chris> DBO how do i do that?
[06:37] <AngryElf> where is the monitor power settings.....turn monitor off after X minutes????
[06:37] <crimsun> manji: I asked what apps
[06:37] <chris> it shud be working apache
[06:37] <DBO> chris, I am not a web developer, you will have to make it yourself, but to install apache
[06:37] <manji> crimsun: so far i've tried rosegarden and vlc, and xmms
[06:37] <_jason> AngryElf: system > preferences > screensaver, power tab
[06:37] <DBO> chris "sudo apt-get install apache2"
[06:37] <pinkmermaid> crimsun, Oh, no. It didn't say anything negative that I'm aware of.
[06:37] <chris> how do i forward my website to my IP
[06:37] <crimsun> manji: are they all configured to use the "default" ALSA device?
[06:37] <manji> crimsun: i will check
[06:37] <crimsun> manji: _not_ hw:X,Y
[06:38] <AngryElf> _jason, there's an advanced tab that controls shutdown/standby/suspend?
[06:38] <DBO> chris, you have to log into your router and set up port forwarding
[06:38] <chris> DBO i want the website i create to be my public IP
[06:38] <DBO> chris, I know
[06:38] <linrunix> hey has anybody use the live cd of gnome2.14 with dapper?
[06:38] <chris> i did that all
[06:38] <chris> ;) i have the password
[06:38] <PwcrLinux> AngryElf: System>Preference>Screensaver
[06:38] <_jason> AngryElf: yeah, that's what I mean.  ``Advanced''
[06:38] <DBO> chris, did you forward port 80 to your machine?
[06:38] <crimsun> pinkmermaid: I'm not going to be able to help tonight, because I have a ton of work. Someone else should be able to help you chase it down.
[06:39] <ltR20> Does metacity themes work in KDE?
[06:39] <ltR20> like this one: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=33039
[06:39] <chris> no how do i forward port 80 to my machine
[06:39] <pinkmermaid> crimsun, Okay~ :) Thanks for all your help so far, you've been really helpful & awesome :)
[06:39] <ltR20> chris, maybe your isp blocks port 80
[06:39] <chris> how do i check?
[06:39] <DBO> chris, dont worry yet
[06:39] <PwcrLinux> chris: do you have router box?
[06:39] <DBO> chris, what router do you have?
[06:39] <ic56> I installed gstreamer0.8-mad and now Rhythmbox music player recognizes my mp3 file.  However, when I select the file and hit the play button, the "Not Playing" sign never changes.  I'm new to this app so I'm probably doing something stupid.  Suggestions?
[06:39] <chris> yes i have a router box
[06:40] <chris> i have a 2wire 1000hw
[06:40] <manji> crimsun: ah, switching xmms to alsa sound output worked
[06:40] <chris> http://hotsaucenlife.livejournal.com
[06:40] <chris> my blog
[06:40] <linrunix> nobody?
[06:41] <DBO> chris, http://www.portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/2wire/1000hw/HTTP.htm
[06:41] <manji> crimsun: you are being very, very helpful here. thanks very much
[06:41] <formalizedix> Hey everyone...  I just got Ubuntu installed on my laptop and was hoping someone could help me with a few small (I hope) issues...
[06:41] <chris> ok
[06:41] <DBO> linrunix, ask at #ubuntu+1
[06:41] <WebLOCH> hah, where NFS and SMB failed, SSH has succeeded!
[06:41] <PwcrLinux> Yea, that's DBO show a url addy
[06:42] <linrunix> ok thanks
[06:42] <formalizedix> my first issue is that my Synaptic Touchpad is acting erratically
[06:42] <DBO> formalizedix, get all your issues out, I know nothing about laptop installs, but I might be able to help with something else
[06:42] <asad1> can anybody help me get wireless working? running an hp machine, using a dlink dwl-650 card?
[06:42] <formalizedix> my other issue is for my monitor...
[06:43] <chris> ok webserver is on port 80
[06:43] <DBO> chris, did you install apache?
[06:43] <chris> yes
[06:43] <formalizedix> I have 1400x1050 as a Mode in my xorg.conf...  but in Gnome I can't select that as my resolution
[06:44] <chris> whats a SSH Server ?
[06:44] <UbuntuNewbieUSA> how do you find out what GTK+ version i have under Ubuntu
[06:44] <DBO> ok chris, your webserver is working
[06:44] <DBO> chris, one thing at a time
[06:44] <chris> ok
[06:44] <chris> :)
[06:44] <gogo_> How do i execute a shell script?
[06:45] <bimberi> gogo_: ./script
[06:45] <DBO> gogo_, chmod +x <scriptname>
[06:45] <DBO> gogo_, then ./script
[06:45] <gogo_> thanx
[06:45] <bimberi> gogo_: (after you do wat DBO said first) :)
[06:45] <OrTigaS> i already installed the mplayer-586 and mozilla-player
[06:46] <_jason> OrTigaS: and it still does not work
[06:46] <DBO> chris, do you have your webpage you designed ready?
[06:46] <chris> no i don't
[06:46] <DBO> chris, ok, well, when you do, let me know and we will get it installed
[06:46] <chris> i can download a website on the web to use it as a test
[06:46] <UbuntuNewbieUSA> anyone knows what command to find out what GTK+ version i have
[06:47] <Dolm|SMC> Ok, I got XDialog downloaded, but i have no idea how to manually install a package, i have it extracted..what do i do?
[06:47] <OrTigaS> yea
[06:47] <_jason> ubotu: tell OrTigaS about replacetotem
[06:47] <linrunix> UbuntuNew..., use synaptic
[06:47] <linrunix> UbuntuNew..., its say it
[06:47] <DBO> chris, hold please
[06:48] <DBO> chris, just open a text editor, type "Hi DBO" in it, and save it as /var/www/index.html
[06:48] <chris> ok
[06:48] <saik0> UbuntuNewbieUSA, dpkg -l package
[06:49] <OrTigaS> okay
[06:49] <linrunix> UbuntuNew..., thats work to
[06:49] <DBO> chris, you may have to open the text editor with sudo
[06:49] <Dolm|SMC> Can anyone tell me how to manually install a package?
[06:49] <DBO> may... not sure
[06:49] <chris> ok
[06:49] <_jason> ubotu: tell Dolm|SMC about synaptic
[06:50] <DBO> Dolm|SMC, dpkg -i <pathtodeb>
[06:50] <DBO> Dolm|SMC, sudo dpkg -i <pathtodeb>
[06:50] <DBO> (sorry)
[06:50] <thoreauputic> Dolm|SMC: you should have got the .deb file - than you run sudo dpkg -i foo.deb
[06:50] <saik0> DBO, apache owns /var/www and there should be the deafult apache page there
[06:50] <DBO> saik0, check out his IP, doesnt quite work
[06:51] <Dolm|SMC> so its on my usbdisk, i would simply use sudo dpkg /media/usbdisk/foo.deb  ?
[06:51] <chris> DBO all set
[06:51] <_jason> Dolm|SMC: dpkg -i
[06:51] <saik0> DBO, from the outside probably not if he's behind any sort of nay/firewall
[06:51] <saik0> erm NAT
[06:51] <ltR20> Does metacity themes work in KDE?
[06:51] <ltR20> like this one: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=33039
[06:51] <DBO> chris, you typoed, you named it 1ndex.html, not index.html
[06:51] <chris> ok
[06:51] <ic56> I installed gstreamer0.8-mad.  Rhythmbox now recognizes my mp3 file, but still doesn't play.  I'm new to this.  Suggestions?
[06:52] <DBO> saik0, no, just look at his site (fast, before he fixes the error)
[06:52] <chris> DBO ok
[06:52] <ubuntuneil_> how can i map ubuntu shared folders from win xp ? anyone
[06:52] <chris> it worked!
[06:52] <DBO> saik0, too late, he fixed it
[06:52] <chris> :)
[06:52] <DBO> chris, goodie, you now have a web server that isnt displaying its directory structure
[06:53] <ubuntuneil_> how can i map ubuntu shared folders from win xp ? anyone
[06:53] <ic56> !tell ubuntuneil_ about samba
[06:53] <thoreauputic> ubuntuneil_: don't repeat please
[06:53] <chris> so i can create in the var/www subfolders?
[06:53] <chris> opps
[06:53] <conga> anyone install ubuntu on vmware?
[06:53] <DBO> chris, if you want
[06:53] <chris> i can create subfolders in va/www
[06:53] <chris> var*
[06:54] <thoreauputic> !tell ubuntuneil_ about mountwindows
[06:54] <chris> ok but i have to be a sudo to do that right?
[06:54] <linrunix> ic56, gstreamer0.8-pluggins or gstreamer0.8-all
[06:54] <DBO> chris, the path is /var/www (dont forget the begining slash, very important)
[06:54] <saik0> !tell conga about ask
[06:54] <seraphim> yes you can. i prefer making a www-directory in my home-folder and linking it to /var/www/sera
[06:54] <chris> dbo i have the write out everything (tags and all) with gedit?
[06:55] <chris> i wanted to use nvu
[06:55] <DBO> seraphim, apache2 configuration file has a way to do that without the link
[06:55] <seraphim> oh, i didn't know :D
[06:55] <DBO> chris, you can use nvu, I just used gedit to get something simple done
[06:55] <chris> is the /var/www sudo only?
[06:55] <chris> can i have permission to make folders into that directory?
[06:55] <DBO> erm, Im too lazy to check...
[06:56] <formalizedix> chris:  I would put your www folder in your home directory
[06:56] <liable> you can set apaches / to anywhere you like.
[06:56] <chris> could you help me out converting /var/www to home?
[06:56] <DBO> chris, do I have to?:-P
[06:57] <formalizedix> chris:  then you can either symlink the /var/www to your home directory...  or editing the apache config
[06:57] <chris> :) how?
[06:57] <DBO> chris, you are going to need to edit /etc/apache2/sites-enables/000blahblah whatever that file is
[06:57] <formalizedix> chris:  you don't have to...  if you want to do it "right" that would be the way
[06:57] <wile_e8> normally I have to run a few commands in a terminal window to get wireless to work on startup.  Is there any way I could call these commands automatically?
[06:58] <chris> i want full control of my www folder without permissions
[06:58] <UbuntuNewbieUSA> im still having problem getting version information of GTK+
[06:58] <qmf> hi guys, i;ve just set up a new blog about me migrating to a linux environment for the first time. tell me what you think! http://newbuntu.starqmf.com
[06:58] <chris> can someone help me making it with out permissions
[06:58] <liable> wile_e8: read /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/network-interfaces.gz and man interfaces for a bit of info
[06:58] <chris> i dont want to do sudo all the time :/
[06:59] <_jason> qmf: sounds interesting
[06:59] <DBO> chris, "sudo gedit /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default
[06:59] <neodrummer> boas ppl
[06:59] <chris> ok DBO
[06:59] <carthik> qmf, perhaps you could use http://ubuntu.wordpress.com :)
[07:00] <neodrummer> hi ppl
[07:00] <chris> i see Directory ;)
[07:00] <neodrummer> does anybody can tell me how do i update my ubuntu???
[07:00] <DBO> ok chris, you see where it says "	<Directory /var/www/>" (about 7 lines down)?
[07:00] <OrTigaS> _jason,  THANKS!!!!!!!!!!! its works now!!!
[07:00] <_jason> OrTigaS: great
[07:00] <chris> yyes
[07:00] <PwcrLinux> Oh, I need to turn off the mouse shadows or just leave them?
[07:00] <DBO> change that to "	<Directory /home/chris/www/>
[07:00] <DBO> then save and quit
[07:00] <conga> can we do apt-get on ubuntu?
[07:00] <qmf> carthik, why?
[07:00] <chris> DocumentRoot /var/www/
[07:01] <_jason> conga: yes
[07:01] <conga> wow :)
[07:01] <conga> i'm installing it
[07:01] <carthik> qmf, just thought that would be a useful resource for a newbie, is all.
[07:01] <conga> _jason> is it same with debian?
[07:01] <chris> DocumentRoot /home/chris/www/
[07:01] <DBO> chris, afaik you dont need to change that
[07:01] <amonkey> how do i get my mic to be able to record things without always playing it back over the speakers?
[07:01] <chris> opps
[07:01] <DBO> chris, go down 5 more liens
[07:01] <chris> is that fine tho?
[07:01] <chris> DocumentRoot /home/chris/www/ ?
[07:02] <DBO> mmm, change it back for now
[07:02] <_jason> conga: I've never used debian, but yes I believe it is the same.  I'll link you to the tutorial we send beginners so you can compare, although it sounds like you know all the commands already :)
[07:02] <qmf> carthik, oh right, i didn't know you could make your own wordpress sub. i kinda like to have my own domain
[07:02] <UbuntuNewbieUSA> does anyone knows how many linux distro you can put in a PC, right now i have WinXP and Ubuntu
[07:02] <_jason> ubotu: tell conga about apt
[07:02] <conga> thanks jason
[07:02] <DBO> UbuntuNewbieUSA, you can put as many as you have partitions for
[07:02] <conga> i'm trying it on my vmware :)
[07:02] <chris> <Directory /home/chris/www/>
[07:03] <DBO> chris, good
[07:03] <chris> ok
[07:03] <UbuntuNewbieUSA> how many swap partition do i have to create
[07:03] <chris> :)
[07:03] <rixth> How can I find out why a major open-source application does not have an Ubuntu package?
[07:03] <PwcrLinux> Anyone how I turn off the mouse cursor shadow?
[07:03] <chris> save it?
[07:03] <conga> UbuntuNewbieUSA> one :)
[07:03] <DBO> chris, now "mkdir /home/chris/www"
[07:03] <carthik> UbuntuNewbieUSA, I have one on each large drive
[07:03] <saik0> rixth, because you haven't made it yet
[07:03] <chris> ok
[07:04] <rixth> saik0, this is Azureus- I find it hard to believe no one has made packages for it.
[07:04] <wile_e8> liable: would that still work if I have to call a couple "sudo modprobe xxxxx" commands before an ifup?
[07:04] <chris> now were all set but do i make a index.html again?
[07:04] <DBO> chris, then open a text editor again, type "I ower DBO more coffee" and save it as /home/chris/www/index.html
[07:04] <saik0> !tell rixth about easyubuntu
[07:04] <liable> wile_e8: if you need to load modules, add them to /etc/modules to load them at boot
[07:05] <DBO> chris, now run "sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart"
[07:05] <rixth> saik0, I know how to install it. I'm just curious if there is a reason why there isn't a package. Other than the fact there isn't a package maintainer. Does Azureus not meet the policy or whatever to be in universe?
[07:05] <liable> !info azureus
[07:06] <chris> DBO Finding my home/chris folder
[07:06] <bernini> hi i want an IDE for c++ and java?
[07:06] <tortho> is there any "disk cleanup" function? I'm loosing disk space...
[07:06] <liable> rixth: strange, seeing as its in debian repos.
[07:06] <DBO> chris, you forgot the intro / again "/home/chris"
[07:06] <carthik> rixth, it depends on Java, which is the problem.
[07:06] <rixth> liable, yeah, that's what I thought
[07:06] <NoOnEx> bernini: eclipse
[07:06] <wile_e8> liable: can I do a modprobe -r in that file?
[07:06] <chris> ok
[07:06] <rixth> carthik, thanks.
[07:06] <chris> :)
[07:06] <DBO> chris, /home/chris is your home folder
[07:07] <liable> wile_e8: no, what module do you need to be removed?
[07:07] <chris> ok :)
[07:07] <chris> i think were good ;)
[07:07] <ic56> can someone suggest an internet radio station with which to test Rhythmbox?  Something with a free fileformat.
[07:07] <carthik> bernini, there is one called eclipse, there is kdevelop, anjuta... read up on these and pick one
[07:07] <DBO> chris, now run "sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart"
[07:07] <liable> ic56: di.fm
[07:07] <ic56> thanks, liable!
[07:08] <chris> not working!
[07:08] <wile_e8> liable: for some reason, my wireless only works when I call modprobe -r ipw2200, modprobe ipw2200 hwcrypto=0, ifup eth1 from a terminal
[07:08] <DBO> chris, giving an error?
[07:08] <bernini> NoOnEx carthik: how bout netbeans and borland dont they have versions for linux?
[07:08] <wile_e8> liable: and I've tried setting it up to be called automatically, but it won't work
[07:08] <chris> no i dont see my /home/chris/www/index.html on apache
[07:08] <chris> i saved it
[07:08] <DBO> chris, did you restart apache like I said?
[07:08] <carthik> bernini, I think netbeans might work, bu borland not...
[07:08] <chris> yes i did
[07:08] <bimberi_> tortho: there's no specific function but things you can do are: empty the trash, clear browser cache and 'sudo apt-get clean'
[07:09] <carthik> bernini, not sure about netbeans again
[07:09] <Fracture_> Hi.  Is there any way to configure ubuntu to permit a non root user to bind to port 80, without using sudo ?
[07:09] <chris> paste bin DBO?
[07:09] <Fracture_> I read somewhere that there is a
[07:09] <DBO> chris, go change that document root think you changed earlier
[07:09] <Fracture_> 'capabilitles' system in linux
[07:09] <NoOnEx> bernini: i've only used eclipse / kdevelop on linux
[07:09] <dominic_> hi
[07:09] <tortho> bimberi: Thanks, done that but i have been loosing a lot of space without installing anything.
[07:09] <chris> DocumentRoot /var/www/
[07:09] <chris> 	<Directory />
[07:09] <chris> 		Options FollowSymLinks
[07:09] <chris> 		AllowOverride None
[07:09] <chris> 	</Directory>
[07:09] <chris> 	<Directory /home/chris/www/>
[07:09] <chris> soorry
[07:09] <liable> wile_e8: oh, you can supply those options to it. look in /etc/modules dir to see if its in there, and add the options to it, or maybe hotplug or udev loads it, in which case gimme a minute
[07:10] <bernini> NoOnEx carthik: ok seems eclipse might be cool
[07:10] <tortho> bimberi_: I was thinkig more about temp files an so on..
[07:10] <dominic_> anybody knows how to locate or install my kernel using synaptic
[07:10] <DBO> chris, pastebin the entire thing...
[07:10] <bernini> NoOnEx carthik: same features like netbeans?
[07:10] <chris> DBO ok if you say so
[07:10] <saik0> chris, please dont paste in here. Theres #flood and http://www.pastebin.com
[07:10] <carthik> !tell bernini about eclipse
[07:10] <liable> wile_e8: err, /etc/modprobe.d..
[07:10] <DBO> saik0, he knows, it was a mistake
[07:10] <tortho> domenic_ it is called linux .... There is a dummy package wich rely on the latest one.
[07:10] <chris> http://pastebin.com/645505
[07:11] <wile_e8> liable: i have breezy, /etc/modules is a text file, do you mean /etc/modprobe.d?
[07:11] <harisund> I have a question on installing packages straight from the .deb file. Is someone here free to help me out?
[07:11] <asad1> hey
[07:11] <asad1> what is the command to remove a file?
[07:11] <_jason> asad1: rm
[07:11] <harisund> assad1: rm
[07:11] <_jason> ubotu: tell asad1 about cli
[07:11] <carthik> harisund dpkg -i package-name
[07:11] <asad1> thanks
[07:11] <liable> what does breezy use? hotplug and discover??
[07:12] <harisund> carthik. no no .. I do know that.
[07:12] <tanuki_> is there any way to write to my ntfs disks in ubuntu?
[07:12] <DBO> chris, hold please
[07:12] <carthik> harisund, what'st he question?
[07:12] <harisund> carthik: Here's my scenario. I want to install package "A"
[07:12] <chris> ok DBO
[07:12] <PwcrLinux> Anyone how I turn off the mouse cursor shadow?
[07:12] <wile_e8> liable: I have created a file named ipw2200 in modprobe.d, it contains the line "options ipw2200 hwcrypto=0", and it still doesn't start
[07:12] <harisund> carthik: And using apt-get install "A" installs "B", '"C" and "D".
[07:12] <tortho> tanuki_ : Google for ntfs kernel driver ( A sorce forge project)
[07:13] <wile_e8> liable: I get a firmware error on when loading ipw2200
[07:13] <dominic_> do i nid to install cvs on synaptic
[07:13] <harisund> carthik: Now I want to install "A" on a machine that is not connected to the internet. So I put "A", "B", "C" and "D" on a CD and take it to the other machine
[07:13] <dominic_> i mean n mu ubuntu
[07:13] <liable> wile_e8: ok, prolly the best way around this is to blacklist it from hotplug and didscover, and add it to /etc/modules
[07:13] <harisund> carthik: So on the machine without internet, how do I install it?
[07:13] <asad1> how do i get the proper permissions to remove a file?
[07:13] <dominic_> rm nameof the file
[07:13] <harisund> asad1: If you don't own the file, you will have to use sudo to remove a file
[07:13] <dominic_> rm -r
[07:13] <asad1> i want to remove /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper and everything in the folder
[07:13] <dominic_> rm -rf
[07:13] <asad1> i am having problems
[07:14] <dominic_> rm -rf
[07:14] <tortho> tanuki_ : www.linux-ntfs.org
[07:14] <DBO> chris, change DocumentRoot to "DocumentRoot /home/chris/www"
[07:14] <harisund> asad1: But you will have to watch out, since it is not advisable to remove a file using sudo. Maybe it shouldn't be removed at all.
[07:14] <asad1> it is ndiswrapper
[07:14] <chris> DBO i told you that and you said no :P
[07:14] <dominic_> type sudo -s on the root terminal
[07:14] <asad1> i need to reinstall it
[07:14] <dominic_> type password
[07:14] <dominic_> then
[07:14] <dominic_> rm -rf
[07:14] <harisund> DBO: You might want to change that to have a / on the end since it is present in <Directory ...> too
[07:14] <dominic_> rm -rf /
[07:14] <DBO> harisund, DOH
[07:15] <DBO> chris, change DocumentRoot to "DocumentRoot /home/chris/www/"
[07:15] <comrade> when I try to install a driver manually with ndiswrapper -i *.inf I get an error saying I'm unable to create /etc/ndiswrapper because I'm not root,  I'm using sudo, any suggestions why?
[07:15] <UbuntuNewbieUSA> good night everyone
[07:15] <linrunix> dominic, maniac
[07:15] <wile_e8> liable: how would I do that? and do you modules or modprobe.d?
[07:15] <DBO> harisund, thanks for catching that, I missed it
[07:15] <carthik> harisund, http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/09/22/upgrade-install-ubuntu-on-slow-internet/
[07:15] <chris> ok restarted it
[07:16] <harisund> DBO: Oh sure no problem. I have been observing the conversation you and Chris have been having for a while..
[07:16] <DBO> harisund, I dont do apache, what can I say...
[07:16] <chris> ... DBO harisund thanks a lot
[07:16] <bimberi> harisund: install the packages using 'sudo dpkg -i D.deb' starting with the one(s) that have their dependencies already installed
[07:16] <harisund> DBO: Well, nobody is going to believe that you don't do Apache now.
[07:16] <chris> :)
[07:17] <harisund> bimberi: Hmm..that seems like a workable solution.. didn't think of that.. will try that out .. and carthik: Thanks for that resource.. quite helpful
[07:17] <liable> wile_e8: /etc/modules, hotplug has a blacklist option "skip foo" and discover has a blacklist dir
[07:17] <chris> DBO doesn't know much right DBO
[07:17] <chris> ;)
[07:17] <chris> Just a guy who drinks a lot of coffee
[07:17] <DBO> thats right chris, I just regurgitate what smarter people said
[07:17] <carthik> harisund: experiment with listing all the four together at the same time to install :)
[07:17] <chris> thanks DBO great opensourcer
[07:17] <neodrummer> can someone tell me how do i config one source list for apt-get?
[07:18] <DBO> chris, did you want a brief explanation of SSH (you asked earlier)
[07:18] <bimberi> carthik: of course (D'Oh me) :)
[07:18] <chris> sure
[07:18] <chris> what is ssh without the it
[07:18] <dominic_> could not connect to video device /dev/video
[07:18] <saik0> neodrummer, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:18] <dominic_> webcam
[07:18] <harisund> carthik: Yes, that seems like a good idea too, doing a dpkg -i *.deb might work too..
[07:18] <dominic_> could not connect to video device /dev/video "webcam" usb
[07:18] <neodrummer> thankx saiko
[07:18] !lilo:*! Hi all. I've been asked to remind people with accounts on wikinews.org that voting is in progress for the next administrators! http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Administrators
[07:18] <dominic_> how do i mount it
[07:19] <saik0> neodrummer, you got it
[07:19] <DBO> chris, SSH stands for SecureShell and simply allows remote access to a terminal window over the internet.  It also allows for file transfers and is very secure (encryption and authentication required)
[07:19] <chris> wow
[07:19] <chris> i dont need it
[07:19] <carthik> harisund, apt-zip, or using the other computer as a local proxy are more lasting solutions to the problem. I helped my dad figure that out ...
[07:19] <DBO> chris, didnt think you would
[07:19] <PwcrLinux> liable or bimberi : How i can turn off the mouse cursor shadow?
[07:19] <chris> Thanks DBO anyways
[07:19] <saik0> neodrummer, if you prefer a GUI ofver configration files synaptic can edit it as well. But knowing how to edit your sources.list is never a bad thing
[07:19] <liable> PwcrLinux: no idea
[07:20] <tanuki_> is windows xp ntfs or fat32?
[07:20] <chris> DBO my intel webcam isn't working ...
[07:20] <bimberi> PwcrLinux: me either :/
[07:20] <PwcrLinux> oh boy. hehe
[07:20] <liable> tanuki_: generally ntfs
[07:20] <chris> i would like to stream my webcam to my public IP
[07:20] <harisund> carthik: That's neat. Your dad uses Ubuntu too? Thanks again.. am having a look at local proxy
[07:20] <chris> :P possible?
[07:20] <JAyRULE> i just installed proftpd and proftpd-common...is there anything else i need to install to get it running....
[07:20] <DBO> chris, probably...
[07:20] <chris> wow
[07:20] <DBO> chris, what webcam?
[07:20] <JAyRULE> ..the reason i ask is cuz i dont see it in the menu
[07:20] <harisund> carthik: basically I wanted the fglrx drivers, and aleso wanted ndiswrapper (since I don't have wired, only wired)
[07:20] <linrunix> tanuki, it says ntfs but is a fat32 with camuflage
[07:20] <chris> intel hold on
[07:20] <dominic_> vista pro
[07:20] <dominic_> creative
[07:21] <carthik> harisund, http://apt-proxy.sourceforge.net/
[07:21] <dominic_> ov511 already loaded
[07:21] <chris> intel cs110
[07:21] <dominic_> i dont if my kernel support it
[07:21] <wile_e8> liable: do you mean discover.conf?  And would I still have to load the modules from the terminal once ubuntu starts?
[07:21] <dominic_> i use 2.6.x.x
[07:21] <carthik> harisund, all my dad needs computer for is spreadsheets, email and chat.... and a calculator
[07:22] <linrunix> catthik, it runs linux right?
[07:22] <chris> DBO get my webcam model?
[07:22] <nick|here> how can i determine my cpu type? (using laptop but not sure is it p4 or p4 mobile)
[07:22] <chris> intel cs110
[07:22] <DBO> chris, yes, but I have to check for drivers
[07:22] <chris> ok thanks :)
[07:22] <dominic_> dba creative vista pro
[07:22] <dominic_> dbo
[07:22] <liable> wile_e8: yes, discover.conf, and the hotplug blacklist as well, and no, add the module with options to /etc/modules
[07:22] <liable> wile_e8: man modules
[07:23] <tanuki_> can someoen help me? i just installed ntfsprogs using synaptic and now i do not know how to start the program
[07:23] <PwcrLinux> oh well, bbl
[07:23] <bimberi> nick|here: 'cat /proc/cpuinfo' might tell you
[07:23] <dominic_> could not connect to video deivce /dec/video
[07:23] <dominic_> webcam
[07:23] <rappo> i put a thumbdrive in my pc and copy a small file from it.. then i pull the drive and put it in another pc, but that file doesnt show up
[07:23] <rappo> am i doing anything wrong?
[07:23] <DBO> dominic_... erm... I dont remember, was I helping you at one point... Im very confused now...
[07:23] <nick|here> bimberi: it does thanks
[07:23] <dominic_> i used camorama
[07:24] <linrunix> tanuki, http://man.linux-ntfs.org/ntfsprogs.8.html
[07:24] <dominic_> why
[07:24] <dominic_> and easycam
[07:24] <dominic_> still cant enabled
[07:24] <dominic_> my cam
[07:24] <saik0> rappo, you need to unmount it cleanly. right click on it -> Unmout
[07:24] <rappo> ok, thanks
[07:25] <linrunix> tanuki, ntfscp
[07:25] <chris> DBO find anything ?
[07:25] <rappo> saik0 ahh.. that option wasn't there in the file browser.. had to go to the icon on the desktop and "eject"
[07:25] <chris> if you can't find anything its ok :)
[07:26] <DBO> chris, still going strong
[07:26] <DBO> dominic_, I can handle one problem at a time... its a limitation of my mind, yours is erm... next?
[07:26] <comrade> does anyone know why if I have ndiswrapper configured correctly, wlan0 doesn't show up in networking menu even though the hardware and driver are presented
[07:26] <saik0> rappo, Right eject, sorry
[07:26] <chris> DBO thanks :)
[07:26] <wile_e8> liable: so I add ipw2200 to the blacklist, put skip ipw2200 in discover.conf, and add ipw2200 hwcrypt=0 to modules?
[07:26] <wile_e8> liable: or do I skip it in modules too?
[07:26] <chris> DBO http://www.pentiumathlon.com/intel/intelwebcamdriver/
[07:27] <liable> wile_e8: yep, add it, with the options
[07:27] <wile_e8> liable: ok, I'm going to give it a try, thanks
[07:27] <liable> wile_e8: ok, gl
[07:27] <saik0> !tell chris about webcam
[07:27] <chris> DBO i can't find anything
[07:28] <dingjiang> hello ,everyone!
[07:28] <dominic_> yes
[07:28] <chris> DBO http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=158260
[07:29] <chris> i got it!
[07:29] <dominic_> chris
[07:29] <help> is there any way to get the new dapper drake
[07:29] <dominic_> can u help me
[07:29] <chris> yes dominic
[07:29] <chris> i need to finish dominic my webcam
[07:29] <bimberi> !getdapper
[07:29] <ubotu> You can download dapper CD Images via http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/dapper/flight-6/ or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/.
[07:29] <chris> ... i am sorta new at ubuntu and the unix commands
[07:29] <bimberi> help: ^^^^^
[07:29] <dominic_> creative vista pro camera problem
[07:29] <DBO> dominic_, what is your issue?
[07:29] <chris> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=158260 DBO
[07:30] <liable> whats the flight6 about? like beta2 sort of thing?
[07:30] <DBO> saw it chris
[07:30] <Linuturk> where is that list of supported wireless cards?
[07:30] <DBO> chris, you are going to have to compile the driver from source it looks like...
[07:30] <DBO> chris, let me go find it online
[07:30] <dominic_> webcam problem? creative vista pro.
[07:30] <chris> ok
[07:30] <_jason> !wireless
[07:30] <ubotu> well, wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers
[07:30] <dominic_> i download the drive ov511m
[07:31] <dominic_> i finish installing it
[07:31] <saik0> !tell liable about flight
[07:31] <dominic_> next is
[07:31] <dominic_> i install easycam
[07:31] <dominic_> comarama
[07:31] <dominic_> and yet
[07:31] <Linuturk> thanks _jason
[07:31] <dominic_> could not connect the device
[07:31] <dominic_> /dev/video0
[07:31] <Madpilot> !enter
[07:31] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[07:31] <liable> saik0: ta
[07:31] <dominic_> even i already making a node
[07:31] <Madpilot> !webcam
[07:31] <ubotu> [webcam]  now easy to install, per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam - webcam support soon to be available in  gaim-vv.
[07:32] <dominic_> u mean easycam
[07:32] <dominic_> easycam could not auto detect me camera
[07:32] <dominic_> is their something wrong about my kernel
[07:32] <DBO> chris, you are going to have to wait a bit, I have to find stuff, will help I promise
[07:32] <dominic_> what kernel i nid to install in my synaptic
[07:32] <dominic_> to detect my usb camera
[07:32] <tanuki_> can someone tell me how to use the ntfsprogs package after installing it with syanptic?
[07:32] <chris> DBO sure
[07:32] <liable> dominic_: google linux and your camera, see if there sdrivers for it
[07:32] <neodrummer> after u do the source update, how do u download a apt
[07:32] <chris> take your time
[07:33] <dominic_> yes
[07:33] <dominic_> the driver is already loaded
[07:33] <dominic_> the problem is how to mount it
[07:33] <dominic_> could not connect to device
[07:33] <dominic_> /dev/video0
[07:33] <tanuki_> should i be able to write to ntfs volumes after mounting them?
[07:33] <neodrummer> after u do the source update, how do u download a apt
[07:33] <neodrummer> after u do the source update, how do u download a apt????
[07:33] <thoreauputic> tanuki_: no
[07:33] <liable> dominic_: what does dmesg say about it when you plug it in?
[07:34] <thoreauputic> tanuki_: ntfs is read-only for linux
[07:34] <liable> !captive-ntfs
[07:34] <ubotu> liable: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:34] <liable> meh
[07:34] <DBO> dominic_, "ls /dev/video*"
[07:34] <thoreauputic> tanuki_: unless you use "captive ntfs" (experimeental)
[07:34] <dominic_> ok
[07:34] <dominic_> wait
[07:34] <DBO> dominic_, post the results to pastebin
[07:35] <thoreauputic> !captive
[07:35] <ubotu> I heard captive is a project to use windows NTFS drivers under linux. It does not work properly with Ubuntu.
[07:36] <dash> can anyone recommend steps for debugging NetworkManager? nm-applet won't display here and I'm not sure why.
[07:36] <dominic_> dbo no such file or directory
[07:36] <DBO> dominic_, well that explains why it cant connect to /dev/video0
[07:37] <dominic_> what should i do
[07:37] <liable> dmesg..
[07:37] <chris> i have /dev/video0 too
[07:37] <chris> ;)
[07:37] <tkup> dash, what's networkmanager?
[07:38] <tkup> dash, is the desklet that helps set up connections?
[07:38] <dominic_> i hav my usbvier
[07:38] <DBO> chris, install easycam
[07:38] <dominic_> usbviwer
[07:38] <DBO> dominic_, bugger if I know, I dont use webcams, but at least you know where the problem is...
[07:38] <chris> easy cam have a .deb file?
[07:38] <DBO> !webcam
[07:38] <ubotu> well, webcam is now easy to install, per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam - webcam support soon to be available in  gaim-vv.
[07:38] <liable> MAKEDEV video
[07:38] <chris> or in sypnatic?
[07:38] <dominic_> dbo thanks
[07:39] <dominic_> ls /dev/video0 problem
[07:39] <dominic_> usualy how will check to for that
[07:39] <ltR20> how do you install fluxbox in ubuntu again
[07:39] <dominic_> usual how you check for that
[07:39] <ltR20> what's the source called
[07:39] <saik0> ltR20, sudo apt-get install fluxbox
[07:40] <comrade> why doesn't the network-admin utility have the add button to add interfaces, how do I add wlan0
[07:40] <dominic_> makedev video
[07:40] <dominic_> thats all
[07:40] <chris> DBO Add the following line to your /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:40] <liable> capitals
[07:40] <chris> how do i do that?
[07:40] <dominic_> chris
[07:40] <DBO> chris, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:40] <chris> ok thanks
[07:40] <liable> chris: you dont, the device is created when the modules are loaded. whats sudo ifconfig -a show??
[07:41] <dominic_> dbo
[07:41] <liable> comrade: ^^
[07:41] <liable> comrade: sorry, wrong nick
[07:41] <VR_> has anyone here successfully set up mozplugger, to make toten-xine work in firefox?
[07:41] <VR_> totem-xine*
[07:41] <dominic_> what is the better step to make my /dev/video work
[07:41] <DBO> dominic_, I dont know...
[07:42] <dominic_> is not my kernel
[07:42] <saik0> ltR20, you need to have the universe repository enabled, by the way
[07:42] <liable> dominic_: what does dmesg say about it when you plug it in?
[07:42] <dominic_> how do install my kernel
[07:42] <chris> ok DBO installing
[07:42] <tkup> comrade, because it lists ALL interfaces that the system has
[07:42] <dominic_> liable can i paste here
[07:42] <dominic_> the result of dmesg
[07:42] <liable> dominic_: no
[07:42] <tkup> comrade, no need to add anything
[07:42] <comrade> liable, I have loaded this device using ndiswrapper before in gentoo, it loaded correctly with ndiswrapper, but it's not associtating it with wlan0
[07:42] <Madpilot> !pastebin
[07:42] <ubotu> somebody said pastebin was http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[07:43] <Madpilot> dominic_, ^^^
[07:43] <dominic_> wer
[07:43] <dominic_> liable
[07:43] <liable> comrade: what does ifconfig -a show??
[07:43] <liable> !paste
[07:43] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[07:43] <dominic_> can i send it to you
[07:43] <liable> ^^
[07:43] <AdventChild> is there a way to force ubuntu to look for a hdd again? (while its running)
[07:43] <chris> ok DBO installed
[07:43] <liable> dominic_: either on a pster or in #flood
[07:43] <DBO> chris, good, now run it
[07:43] <comrade> liable, wlan0     Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:00:00:00:00:00
[07:43] <liable> paster
[07:43] <comrade>           BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
[07:43] <comrade>           RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[07:43] <comrade>           TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
[07:43] <comrade>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
[07:43] <comrade>           RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)
[07:43] <DBO> !paste
[07:43] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[07:44] <dominic_> liable are you willing to read it
[07:44] <Madpilot> comrade, do that again and get kicked - you were given the pastebin URL...
[07:44] <tkup> AdventChild, it's not advised. but look into man hdparm
[07:44] <liable> comrade: dont paste here, looks like the driver isnt loaded properly or something, cause it has no mac address
[07:44] <chris> going to take awhile..
[07:44] <AdventChild> tkup, ty...  and i know, but i dont have much choice
[07:44] <liable> dominic_: sure, unplug it, plug it back in, type 'dmesg |tail' and paste the results
[07:45] <dominic_> ok
[07:45] <dominic_> yes
[07:45] <rapptop> I added deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper multiverse and universe to my sources list, but not that much is coming up... is there another sources list i could use as well for dapper?
[07:45] <dominic_> i paste it on the url
[07:45] <chris> dbo its like not doing anything
[07:45] <Madpilot> dominic_, now paste your pastebin URL here - JUST the url, though
[07:45] <chris> like freezed
[07:45] <tkup> AdventChild, make sure you back before you do anything :/
[07:45] <ridgerunner7> can anyone give me advice on getting adsl - pppoe working
[07:45] <DBO> chris, give well, I dont have a webcam, not much I can do for support...
[07:46] <chris> ok got it!
[07:46] <DBO> it works?
[07:46] <AdventChild> tkup, nothing to back^...  just trying to format it
[07:46] <tkup> rappo, make sure you run sudo apt-get update afterwards
[07:46] <chris> i beleive so...
[07:46] <DBO> chris, do you see a picture... you know what a webcam might display?
[07:46] <chris> how do i do a stream over my public ip?
[07:46] <tkup> rapptop, , make sure you run sudo apt-get update afterwards
[07:47] <DBO> chris, one crisis at a time
[07:47] <chris> ok ok
[07:47] <rapptop> rapptop:  i did, but im guessing it's just not in those sources... is there another popular sources that i could/should be using?
[07:47] <DBO> chris, do you see output from your webcam?
[07:47] <dominic_> liable i finish posting
[07:47] <saik0> rapptop, did you apt-get update?
[07:47] <chris> i don't know a way to see if it works
[07:48] <dominic_> regarding the result of the dmesg
[07:48] <DBO> chris, thats good, I dont either...
[07:48] <liable> dominic_: and whats the url?
[07:48] <bernini> hi anbody no a very good torrent site
[07:48] <chris> ... ok
[07:48] <dominic_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11659
[07:48] <DBO> try loading Gnome Meeting
[07:48] <chris> where is the webcam tools like it said to run?
[07:49] <DBO> chris, I donno, did I mention I dont have a webcam?:-P
[07:49] <chris> DBO ok
[07:49] <rapptop> saik0:  yes
[07:49] <DBO> chris, try "sudo camorama"
[07:49] <dominic_> liable u see it
[07:49] <Toma-> chris: trying to get a webcam working?
[07:49] <wile_e8> liable: didn't work, but thanks for the help anyways
[07:49] <chris> yes
[07:49] <liable> dominic_: yes. is that it?
[07:49] <chris> i installed the drivers
[07:49] <ridgerunner7> adsl - pppoe anyone?
[07:50] <dominic_> yup
[07:50] <dominic_> thats it sir
[07:50] <saik0> rapptop, just checking put your sources.list on pastebin
[07:50] <chris> i just need someone to view my webcam
[07:50] <Toma-> chris: what camera is it? and what drivers?
[07:50] <chris> :P
[07:50] <chris> i have it working with the easycam2
[07:50] <DBO> Toma-, we got that working, what program do you use to view the output?
[07:50] <chris> its a program
[07:50] <Toma-> ahh i c.
[07:50] <liable> dominic_: well, it doesnt look like the driver for it is being loaded..
[07:50] <Toma-> qgcam is what i use
[07:50] <dominic_> u mean no driver is loaded
[07:50] <Toma-> to test, then use amsn 0.95 for msn webcam chat
[07:51] <dominic_> liable : u mean no driver is loaded
[07:51] <liable> dominic_: yes
[07:51] <rapptop> saik0: http://pastebin.com/645551
[07:51] <DBO> meh, Toma- will take care of you chris, he has a webcam =)
[07:52] <liable> wile_e8: what does the kernel log say about ipw being loaded?? can you paste the log?
[07:52] <dominic_> how can i make an appropriate driver of my creative vista cam
[07:52] <liable> wile_e8: and what didnt work? errors, or you just needed to reload the module?
[07:52] <dominic_> liable pls.
[07:52] <liable> dominic_: no idea.
[07:53] <wile_e8> liable: "Firmware error detected.  Restarting"
[07:53] <dominic_> usually how they install drive for webcam
[07:53] <liable> wile_e8: paste kern.log for me
[07:55] <chris> the webcam was my xserver!
[07:55] <saik0> rapptop, try using http://pastebin.com/645552
[07:55] <chris> ... webcam is in garbage
[07:55] <DBO> chris, you lost me...
[07:55] <chris> like i had no desktop it was all video
[07:55] <DBO> chris, well, was it working?
[07:56] <chris> DBO dont worry about it..
[07:56] <chris> :) enjoy your coffee
[07:56] <dominic_> liable do i nid to install my linux-header
[07:56] <DBO> chris, the thrill of the hunt... I wanna know
[07:56] <wile_e8> liable: dmesg | grep ipw
[07:56] <wile_e8> [4294699.564000]  ipw2200: Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 2200/2915 Network Driver, 1.0.6
[07:56] <wile_e8> [4294699.564000]  ipw2200: Copyright(c) 2003-2004 Intel Corporation
[07:56] <wile_e8> [4294699.569000]  ipw2200: Detected Intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG Network Connection
[07:56] <wile_e8> [4294706.512000]  ipw2200: Firmware error detected.  Restarting.
[07:56] <wile_e8> [4294786.432000]  ipw2200: Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 2200/2915 Network Driver, 1.0.6
[07:56] <wile_e8> [4294786.432000]  ipw2200: Copyright(c) 2003-2004 Intel Corporation
[07:56] <wile_e8> [4294786.443000]  ipw2200: Detected Intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG Network Connection
[07:56] <DBO> !paste
[07:56] <AdventChild> !padte
[07:56] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[07:56] <ubotu> AdventChild: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:56] <dominic_> liable do i nid to install my linux-header
[07:56] <liable> dominic_: you need a driver for it. once you find it, come back
[07:56] <dominic_> ok
[07:57] <dominic_> not a linux-header
[07:57] <dominic_> how about easycam
[07:57] <wile_e8> liable: tries loading once on startup, fails, and then it works when I call it from the terminal
[07:57] <dominic_> i install easycam2
[07:57] <dominic_> liable
[07:57] <unix_infidel> what's a good ftp client that works on both linux and windows?
[07:57] <liable> dominic_: no idea
[07:57] <chris> going to bed everyone gnite
[07:57] <DBO> unix_infidel, what do you mean?
[07:57] <chris> :/
[07:57] <DBO> chris, gnight buddy
[07:57] <qmf> is there a way to import a network folder into rythmbox?
[07:57] <chris> Thanks DBO for all the apache help
[07:58] <chris> :)
[07:58] <liable> wile_e8: what is loading it though. is it hotplug or discover still? thats why i want to see the log to make sure.
[07:58] <DBO> chris, no prob, sorry I wasnt much help with the webcam
[07:58] <unix_infidel> DBO, i mean.....what's a good ftp CLIENT that works well on both windows and linux
[07:58] <chris> DBO , your a great opensourcer
[07:58] <unix_infidel> has a native linux binary and a win32 port
[07:58] <AdventChild> qmf, try linking the folder to the desktop and importing from there
[07:58] <DBO> unix_infidel, erm, doesnt filezilla have one?
[07:58] <unix_infidel> i use gftp, but i'd like the interface tobe pretty decent on both ends so i dont have to adjust everytime.
[07:59] <unix_infidel> and gftp doesnt have a win32 port so there ya go.
[07:59] <DBO> unix_infidel, why do you need one with a windows port?  why does it need to be the same program?
[07:59] <unix_infidel> DBO, easier to transition between boxes/boots
[08:00] <rapptop> saik0: thanks :)
[08:00] <saik0> unix_indidel, why not just use GnomeVFS and << insert windows app here>>
[08:00] <DBO> unix_infidel, you can use the plugin for firefox...
[08:00] <saik0> rapptop, sure, you missed the training / on the url
[08:00] <liable> wile_e8: you are using wpa-supp i take it??
[08:00] <unix_infidel> DBO,  url?
[08:00] <jbrouhard> Anyone here play Freelancer via Wine ?
[08:00] <wile_e8> liable: I think it is hotplug, i got the same errors when I updated the files for discover that you told me about before
[08:00] <wile_e8> yes I am
[08:01] <wile_e8> liable: yes I am
[08:01] <DBO> unix_infidel, http://fireftp.mozdev.org/
[08:01] <rapptop> saik0:  ahh, thanks
[08:01] <liable> wile_e8: you need to stop hotplug or discover loading it
[08:01] <wile_e8> liable: for the log, you mean /var/log/kern.log right?
[08:01] <liable> wile_e8: yes
[08:01] <saik0> rapptop, BTW, all the official repos are in the default sources.list. they are just commented out. All you need to do is uncomment them and you're golden.
[08:02] <qmf> AdventChild, i get this while trying to make a shortcut:
[08:02] <qmf> Error "Unsupported operation" while creating a link to "smb://ser...Servers%20Music".
[08:02] <wile_e8> liable: what do you want me to paste from it?  it's a big file
[08:02] <liable> wile_e8: just the last two kernel boots
[08:03] <qmf> AdventChild, you can right click in the add folder window to 'open location' just found it.
[08:04] <linrunix> has anybody listen xm radio on ubuntu?
[08:04] <qmf> oh.. it doesn't let you add a network location that way...
[08:04] <qmf> althought i did do it on the initial run of rhythmbox
[08:04] <qmf> and it added a few mpc files but i didn't have mp3's set up at that time
[08:04] <rapptop> saik0: ahhh.. thanks, never understood why they are commented out.. or why the gui package updater doesnt prompt you on first use if you want to use more sources
[08:05] <DBO> rapptop, it all goes back to ubuntu's dont ask dont tell policy =P (joke)
[08:05] <wile_e8> liable: that's still going to be a few hundred lines, is that ok?
[08:06] <wile_e8> liable: 580 or so
[08:06] <liable> wile_e8: sure, to a pastebot though, not here :)
[08:06] <saik0> rapptop, universe is handedle by the comminuty, main and security is all done by the ubuntu devs
[08:06] <wile_e8> liable: ok, I'm new to IRC, I was wondering at first
[08:07] <Madpilot> !pastebin
[08:07] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, totally, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[08:07] <Madpilot> wile_e8, first URL above ^^^
[08:09] <rapptop> I need to upgrad to 2.6.16 or greater... what's the standard "ubuntu way" of upgrading the kernel?
[08:10] <liable> rapptop: if you dont use dapper, then prolly compiling one.
[08:10] <qmf> how can i make a link to a network folder?
[08:11] <rapptop> liable: i'm using dapper
[08:11] <wile_e8> liable: ok it's on the pastebin
[08:11] <liable> rapptop: then apt-get it
[08:11] <liable> wile_e8: whats the url?
[08:11] <AdventChild> when i use 'hdparm -U /dev/hd*' it echo's back the short version of the man file...
[08:11] <wile_e8> liable: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11660
[08:11] <rapptop> liable: what would it be listed as? I'm a gentoo convert... I'm not familiar with apt-get all that much :P
[08:11] <liable> AdventChild: thats becaus eyou made a mistake, and its telling you the options
[08:12] <AdventChild> liable, where is the mistake?
[08:12] <liable> rapptop: apt-cache search linux-image-2.6
[08:12] <liable> AdventChild: no idea
[08:13] <AdventChild> liable, it says 'hdparm <opt> <dev> and thats what i wrote...
[08:13] <rapptop> liable: I only see .15 :(
[08:15] <AdventChild> liable, HDIO_DRIVE_RESET failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device
[08:16] <slavi1> yo
[08:17] <rapptop> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/main/source/Sources.bz2  MD5Sum mismatch <-- i'm getting a few errors like that when I try to update apt-get
[08:17] <liable> rapptop: hrm. woulda thought dapper had 2.6.16 by now.. compile i guess.
[08:17] <rapptop> liable: doh :P
[08:18] <liable> wile_e8: ok, i think hotplug is still loading it.
[08:18] <AdventChild> rapptop, have you enabled multiverses?
[08:18] <AdventChild> might be the prob
[08:18] <slavi1> doesn't dapper use udev?
[08:18] <liable> more than likely
[08:18] <wile_e8> ok
[08:18] <slavi1> dapper isn't gett 2.6.16 :(
[08:18] <linrunix> later guys
[08:19] <linrunix> i was forgotting that i'm human
[08:19] <linrunix> i need to sleep
[08:19] <slavi1> when is 2.8 kernel supposed to be released?
[08:19] <rapptop> AdventChild: saik0 helped me with this: http://pastebin.com/645552
[08:19] <carthik> !freenx
[08:19] <ubotu> freenx is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX
[08:20] <liable> wile_e8: what did you add to hotplug.d?
[08:20] <rapptop> anyone know if there's a precompiled 2.6.16-powerpc that i can just grab and use?
[08:20] <wile_e8> liable: didn't add anything to hotplug.d
[08:21] <liable> wile_e8: how did you blacklist it from hotplug??
[08:21] <wile_e8> liable: I added it to the blacklist file
[08:21] <Intangir> how do i change the /dev/dsp and /dev/dsp1 devices? i want to switch them? and make /dsp1 into dsp instead
[08:21] <liable> wile_e8: err, i meant /hotplug/blacklist.d
[08:21] <slavi1>  /etc/hotplug/blacklist or somesuch
[08:21] <Intangir> cause i have no idea how to make the stupid macromedia flash plugin use /dev/dsp1 instead of dsp
[08:22] <wile_e8> liable: i put ipw2200 in /etc/hotplug/blacklist, didn't touch blacklist.d
[08:22] <liable> wile_e8: ok.
[08:23] <newbuntu> hello
[08:24] <newbuntu> anyone around?
[08:24] <Intangir> im here..
[08:24] <newbuntu> okay cool
[08:24] <saik0> Theres plenty of us
[08:24] <newbuntu> for a second i thought i wasnt connected
[08:24] <Intangir> there are like 500 people.. but none of them ever seem to answer any of the questions i ask
[08:25] <DBO> Intangir, what is your question?
[08:25] <AdventChild> 639 right now
[08:25] <newbuntu> ive gotten good help before
[08:25] <Intangir> how do i change the /dev/dsp and /dev/dsp1 devices? i want to switch them? and make /dsp1 into dsp instead
[08:25] <Intangir> cause i have no idea how to make the stupid macromedia flash plugin use /dev/dsp1 instead of dsp
[08:25] <Intangir> on gentoo i just made a symlink to /dsp0 . named /dev/dsp
[08:25] <Intangir> but on ubuntu, it made them dsp and dsp1 instead of dsp0 and dsp1
[08:25] <Intangir> i dont know where those are made though.. so i dont know how to change them
[08:26] <AdventChild> Intangir, rename dsp > dsp2 , then rename dsp1 > dsp , then rename dsp2 > dsp1
[08:27] <Intangir> is that gonna work? i thought there was something special about these
[08:27] <AdventChild> or umount them and mount them again in oppisite order
[08:27] <AdventChild> idk...  im guessin
[08:27] <AdventChild> lol
[08:27] <Intangir> from .. how?
[08:27] <Intangir> bah..
[08:27] <AdventChild> im new to linux sry
[08:27] <newbuntu> is there a way to config your alsa setup? I have alsa installed but I get no sound, kmix volumes are up, and the plug is in the right hole...
[08:28] <saik0> NO thats wont work. I'm quite sure you need to change it from udev
[08:28] <mathew-ef> Does anybody know whether we get wireless WPA in Ubuntu 6.06 GUI?
[08:28] <Intangir> hrm well it did seem to let me get away with moving them
[08:28] <Intangir> lets see if it worked..
[08:28] <DBO> Intangir, you can just make symlinks
[08:28] <Frogzoo> mathew-ef: I believe so
[08:28] <Intangir> newbuntu: do you have more than one card?
[08:28] <Intangir> ya i moved dsp to dsp0, and made a link named dsp -> dsp1
[08:28] <Frogzoo> Intangir: you'll lose these settings at reboot though
[08:28] <newbuntu> just the onboard via
[08:28] <DBO> ln -s /dev/whatyouwant /dev/whatyouneed
[08:29] <Frogzoo>  /dev is recreated at reboot
[08:29] <Intangir> where are these 'made'?
[08:29] <Intangir> cant i just change some script or something so it comes up how i want it?
[08:29] <mathew-ef> GROGZOO: I have seen many disto. has icons on Desktop but not in Ubuntu? Any reason
[08:29] <newbuntu> ubuntu is the only linux os ive ever had problems with the via onboard sound card
[08:29] <DBO> Intangir, you could make a startup script to do it...
[08:30] <Frogzoo> Intangir: why not just change the settings in the apps - seems you've got the wrong end of the horse
[08:30] <Intangir> newbuntu: sounds like you have the exact same issue i am having
[08:30] <Intangir> what you can do those for most things is open the sounds options and change your default card
[08:30] <DBO> Oh sure Frogzoo, use logic and reason:-P
[08:30] <Sulle-> hi all
[08:30] <Intangir> for most things that fixes it
[08:30] <newbuntu> sometimes it works on a reboot , sometimes not
[08:30] <saik0> Intangir, you need to change your udev rules (or some other stuff) I dont know my way around udev so ask someone smarter than me
[08:30] <Intangir> but for macromedia flash.. it doesnt
[08:30] <Sulle-> !tell Sulle-  about splash
[08:30] <Frogzoo> newbuntu: Intangir you should be able to disable on board sound in the bios
[08:30] <rmbell> is it possible to replace isolinux with syslinux on the disc?
[08:31] <Intangir> well i want to be able to use onboard sound also sometimes
[08:31] <newbuntu> i want to change xmms to use arts output but it doesnt seem to give sound either
[08:31] <AdventChild> BOONDOCKS!
[08:31] <Intangir> cause i hooked it to my surround sound and when i play DVDs it outputs to my TV and uses onboard sound to play for the whole room
[08:31] <Intangir> boondocks seems lame
[08:31] <Intangir> i always change it
[08:31] <Intangir> and i just did ;)
[08:31] <newbuntu> frog: if I disable it then I wont have sound because I dont have a second card
[08:31] <AdventChild> its funny, but im done with the opptopic stuff (for now ;) )
[08:32] <kurdt> best gui ftp client for kde?
[08:33] <newbuntu> in XMMS no matter what output plugin I use   arts, alsa , oss  (all of which I have plugins for)... there is no sound
[08:33] <newbuntu> I like alsa-conf in mepis
[08:33] <liable> wile_e8: you want to try and keep debuuging this?
[08:33] <saik0> kurdt, have you tried #kubuntu?
[08:34] <kurdt> nope, saik0, should i?
[08:34] <wile_e8> liable: not really, I've been trying to debug it for a couple weeks, and I finally found a solution that only required three commands entered in the terminal
[08:34] <wile_e8> liable: I was just wondering if there was a way to automate these commands
[08:34] <Madpilot> kurdt, for Kubuntu questions, #kubuntu is the best place to start (it's quieter than here, though)
[08:34] <saik0> kurdt, proabably your best bet for KDE related questions
[08:35] <liable> wile_e8: sure, you can write a script.
[08:35] <mathew-ef> Does anybody know why Ubuntu does not have icons on Desktop like other DIstro do? Any reason?
[08:35] <ChrisLSD> just add them yourself :-)
[08:35] <kurdt> ok, will do, thanks guy
[08:35] <kurdt> s
[08:35] <ChrisLSD> ubuntuguide.org
[08:35] <ic56> Intangir: the devices are made by the /dev/MAKEDEV script.  Search for `dsp' in it and swap as needed.
[08:35] <Madpilot> !ubuntuguide
[08:35] <newbuntu> there is no one in #kbuntu  lol
[08:35] <ubotu> from memory, ubuntuguide is out of date, reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead
[08:35] <saik0> mathew-ef, It's a GNOME thing. They explain all that stuff on their site
[08:36] <bimberi> !desktop-icons
[08:36] <wile_e8> liable: well, I put all three in a file named start_eth1, gave it execute permissions
[08:36] <ubotu> To have icons for drives and the trashcan on your Gnome desktop, run the GConf Editor (Applications -> System Tools -> Configuration Editor) and edit the keys in /apps/nautilus/desktop and/or /apps/nautilus/general
[08:36] <bimberi> mathew-ef: ^^^^^
[08:36] <wile_e8> liable: that's what I do now, just run that, but when I put it in session startup it doesn't seem to work.  How would I enter the sudo password?
[08:36] <saik0> Wow surely drag and drop from the menu would be easier than gconf
[08:37] <Madpilot> saik0, gconf turns some on that exist by default
[08:38] <saik0> Madpilot, ah. right. I just assument he meant app icons and not Computer, Home, etc
[08:38] <mikebot> is there a channel for the linux dc++ wulfor reloaded?
[08:39] <Intangir> ic56: thanks
[08:39] <linuxlover> Does anyone know how to update BIOS?  I found a .exe, and have Xwine, but I'm truly reluctant to mess with anything potentially debilitating to my computer.
[08:39] <linuxlover> Is there a place to find a linux compatible BIOS update?
[08:39] <ic56> wile_e8: I missed your question.  What is your script supposed to do?
[08:40] <liable> wile_e8: first, remove the line from /etc/modules. reboot and tell me if you get the same error. the script is a dirty hack around this.
[08:40] <saik0> linuxlover, your BIOS wont leyt you upgrade from a floppy?
[08:40] <Madpilot> linuxlover, check your motherboard maker's website
[08:40] <liable> wile_e8: but if you really want. put the script in init.d and have a read of man update-rc.d
[08:40] <rapptop> could someone point me in the direction of a good doc to use for upgrading the kernel? im not having much luck finding a guide
[08:40] <PwcrLinux> back :)
[08:41] <linuxlover> saik0 I've never had to udate my BIOS before.  I take I can update from a floppy with the bios update I found, even though it's .exe format?
[08:41] <findik1> x does not start after install , any help?
[08:41] <wile_e8> ic56: it was just a hack to fix my wireless, a couple modprobe command followed by ifup, all with sudo
[08:41] <linuxlover> Madpilot The update was made for windows users.  And my motherboard is so archaich I almost have to crankstart my computer. ;)
[08:41] <PwcrLinux> find: are you running under-minium of ram? below 128 MB?
[08:42] <findik1> 128
[08:42] <Madpilot> linuxlover, if it's that old, you might be out of luck - newer mobos can often flash the BIOS w/o involving the OS
[08:42] <PwcrLinux> Find: you're only running a "server-mode", no GUIs at all
[08:42] <ic56> wile_e8: sounds like something that should be done in /etc/init.d  The scripts in there are run by root, hence no password required to gain privileges.
[08:42] <linuxlover> Madpilot I don't know if mine can or not...
[08:43] <findik1> PPwcr: I just installed, but my card comaptibility?
[08:43] <linuxlover> Madpilot I have the update, I just don't know how to use it. ;)
[08:43] <saik0> linuxlover. Check the manufactuerer website for a manual
[08:43] <wile_e8> ic56: ok, so I could take out the sudo parts?
[08:43] <Madpilot> linuxlover, can you find the manual online? I know Asus puts all it's manuals online in PDF
[08:43] <PwcrLinux> Find: which card you have now?
[08:43] <linuxlover> saiko It's for windows.  I'm using *nix....
[08:43] <linuxlover> Madpilot I can.
[08:44] <findik1> P: rodeon x 300 se, dell 19 inch
[08:44] <mathew-ef> Does anybody know how to change the colour depth (256, 16-bit, 24-bit, 32 bit colours) in Ubuntu 5.10?
[08:44] <david> hey everyone, i'm new to linux and looking for a guide for mounting windows partitions
[08:44] <david> anyone got suggestions?
[08:44] <ic56> wile_e8: yes, you would remove the sudo command.  But the init.d setup will take some figuring out.  For one thing, there are probably already hooks in there to do what you need and you should use those rather than write your own.  Explore the directory a bit...
[08:44] <saik0> linuxlover, If the manual is windows only and the rest of the site is useless you can try bugging them with a phone call =(
[08:45] <PwcrLinux> Find: hmm but you need more ram 256 or above to run a GUIs..
[08:45] <linuxlover> Madpilot In fact, I'm staring at the Gateway ( Iknow, I know, but it was free) "How to install this udpate file.." and it's talking about installing things into the drivers file in Windows and such.
[08:45] <wile_e8> ic56: ok, it's late, I'm not going to try to figure it out now, I'll try it tomorrow, thanks
[08:45] <PwcrLinux> Find: did the boot loader checking a card detection?
[08:46] <Madpilot> linuxlover, you might be SOL, then. My new-ish model Asus supports OS-less BIOS updating, but my older Asus board didn't - it was Windows only
[08:46] <findik1> pWC: IT IS 128 mB, new monitor
[08:46] <linuxlover> Madpilot All I really want out of it is the option to tweak with my FSB...BIOS won't let me select it as an option and this type of proc is modifier-locked.
[08:46] <wile_e8> liable: thanks for the help, I think I'm just going to try running the script on startup, but not tonight
[08:46] <Madpilot> linuxlover, keep poking around Google or your mobo maker's website - not sure what else to suggest
[08:47] <linuxlover> Madpilot Ok, thank you.
[08:47] <liable> wile_e8: man update-rc.d is the info you need, good luck. (but i still think stopping whatever is loading it is the best way to solve this..:)
[08:47] <PwcrLinux> Find: Oh! a videoram okay, so Im not sure, you can dig up at ubuntu forum at www.ubuntuforums.org
[08:48] <findik1> Pwc: somebody posted sudo aptitude install xorg-driver-fglrx # the fglrx name threw me off here
[08:48] <findik1> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:48] <findik1> Pwc: but mine did not install packages
[08:48] <PwcrLinux> Find: ATI or Navida?
[08:48] <findik1> ATI
[08:48] <ic56> liable: wile_e8's problem module is being loaded from something in /etc/init.d
[08:49] <findik1> pWC:ATI
[08:49] <PwcrLinux> Find: okay I guess the fglrx for a nadiva cards.. and anyone know his need for his ATI card compatibly?
[08:50] <saik0> !ati
[08:50] <ubotu> rumour has it, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[08:50] <liable> ic56: he needs to supply module parameters, and hotplug or discover is loading it first.
[08:50] <ompaul> !ATI
[08:50] <ubotu> ati is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[08:50] <VR_> im trying to install gtk+ 2.6.10 from source. i installed glib 2.6.6, but it tells that i do not have it. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11661
[08:50] <saik0> impressive
[08:51] <PwcrLinux> Find: see the url to dig up
[08:52] <findik1> Pwc, ubotu, thansk. just a simple question, do I need to be on the internet to be able to install this drivers?
[08:52] <[nige] > j #firefox
[08:52] <[nige] > whoops
[08:52] <rapptop> I want to download a kernel from kernel.org ... how would I go about installing it? I can only seem to find instructions for compiling a kernel :/
[08:53] <liable> rapptop: you need to unpack the source, configure it, then make the kernel, then install it.
[08:54] <Madpilot> rapptop, you'd need to compile it, more than likely, not just install it
[08:54] <ompaul> rapptop, it is not what you really want to do, thats gentoo space this it will break in new and interesting ways
[08:54] <PwcrLinux> Find: okay, I bet you would check up on website and posts on the forums..
[08:54] <findik1> thanks
[08:54] <rapptop> I'm used to gentoo and puzzled by ubunut.. go figure :D
[08:55] <PwcrLinux> Find: ur welcome
[08:55] <rapptop> all I want is 2.6.16 so I can have wifi... what do you guys suggest I do?
[08:55] <Frogzoo> rapptop: it's a trade - stability instead of constant updates
[08:55] <ompaul> rapptop, several things, ndiswrapper is one way
[08:55] <ompaul> !ndiswrapper
[08:55] <ubotu> from memory, ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[08:56] <Frogzoo> rapptop: wifi runs fine on 2.6.12 - depending
[08:56] <rapptop> ompaul: I have a bcm4306... and i read that ndiswrapper doesnt work on ppc
[08:56] <ompaul> rapptop, you will also need to install build-essential and gcc-3.4
[08:56] <rapptop> Frogzoo: i'm in dapper so i have .15... but .16 added the drivers for my card
[08:56] <[nige] > its all good, chhers
[08:56] <nick|here> anyone got success with fbsplash??
[08:57] <ompaul> rapptop, go to #ubuntu+1 for dapper conversations it is not for here :-) we do the stable release here
[08:57] <rapptop> ohh sorry
[08:57] <ompaul> rapptop, hey no need to be sorry, you did not know :-)
[08:57] <rapptop> :P thanks
[08:57] <liable> rapptop: building a kernel on a debian based distro is easy, unpack the source, configure it, make-kpkg kernel-image, install the resulting .deb file
[08:58] <liable> kernel_image..
[08:58] <nick|here> anyone got success with fbsplash?
[08:58] <rapptop> liable: is there a standard config for dapper/ubuntu?
[08:58] <saik0> I dont hink the debian kernels incluse as many hardware modules as the ubuntu ones
[08:59] <liable> rapptop: you can start with the one in /boot/config-blah and copy it into source, naming it .config, but beware, you need to buils drivers in if you dont use initrd
[09:00] <niels_> Hello, can one help me? i cannot load a module.. but the file is there
[09:00] <Frogzoo> niels_: what do u get from: insmod module.ko
[09:01] <niels_> localhost kernel:  dvb-ttpci: could not load firmware, file not found: dvb-ttpci-01.fw
[09:01] <niels_> localhost kernel:  dvb-ttpci: usually this should be in /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware
[09:01] <niels_> root@unbun:/usr/lib/hotplug/firmware# ls -l
[09:01] <niels_> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 238036 2005-10-16 20:41 dvb-ttpci-01.fw
[09:01] <liable> you shouldnt use insmod on 2.6 btw
[09:01] <Frogzoo> liable: always works for me, plus if it's not supported, why's it available?
[09:02] <Frogzoo> liable: quote: BACKWARDS COMPATIBILITY This  version of insmod is for kernels 2.5.48 and above.  If it detects a kernel with support for old-style modules (for which much of the work was  done  in userspace), it will attempt to run insmod.modutils in its place, so it is completely transparent to the user.
[09:02] <liable> Frogzoo: it doesnt load module dependancies, and its supplied cause its part of module-init-tolls, which works for 2.4
[09:02] <ompaul> Frogzoo, aka it should happen outomagically
[09:03] <ompaul> s/outomagically/automatically
[09:03] <Frogzoo> ompaul: depending on what you're trying to do ;)
[09:03] <Frogzoo> niels_: it's looking for firmware - I suggest  you check the install docs
[09:04] <liable> Frogzoo: right, my apaologies, i have never seen that text.
[09:04] <newbuntu> i still have no sound , but i now know that I have an ISA soundcard and need to get the modulles loaded somehow
[09:04] <xanavim> what is the best tool to remap a key on my keyboard to be a different key?
[09:05] <newbuntu> is it possible to find the ISA modules for a particular motherboard soundcard?
[09:05] <Frogzoo> newbuntu: you need to add an entry to /etc/modules & pass the io & irq as module parameters - suggest a quick google should sort it out
[09:05] <newbuntu> okay i'll try that thanks
[09:05] <Madpilot> xanavim, probably System->Preferences->Keyboard Shortcuts
[09:06] <Frogzoo> newbuntu: if it's a motherboard sound card, it's not isa - it should show up with 'sudo lsmod'
[09:06] <newbuntu> seems ubuntu doesnt like ISA sound
[09:06] <newbuntu> okay
[09:06] <revolutionary> Frogzoo, you dont need to do sudo for the lsmod command
[09:06] <Madpilot> newbuntu, an actual ISA soundcard? That's pretty old tech
[09:06] <revolutionary> lspci
[09:06] <revolutionary> hwinfo
[09:07] <Frogzoo> newbuntu: soz, 'sudo lspci'
[09:07] <newbuntu> i think frog is correct
[09:07] <xanavim> Madpilot: how do I launch that from terminal?  I'm in fluxbox without the gnome menu
[09:08] <Madpilot> xanavim, hmm, not sure, let me see if I can find out
[09:08] <Frogzoo> revolutionary: you're quite correct, but I meant 'sudo lspci'
[09:08] <newbuntu> which part of lspci is your soundcard?
[09:08] <void^> none, if it's isa
[09:08] <xanavim> Madpilot: do you think it's called gnome-keyboard-properties?
[09:08] <newbuntu> I have a newer via motherboard with onboard sound
[09:08] <Frogzoo> void^: all onboard sound card's are pci afaik
[09:09] <void^> ah, who confused me with the isa talk? :P
[09:09] <Madpilot> xanavim, that's worth a shot, I think
[09:09] <newbuntu> so is it easier to load modules for a pci onboard soundcard?
[09:09] <revolutionary> Frogzoo, ok I thoght so... ;p
[09:09] <Frogzoo> newbuntu: usually the kernel takes care of it completely
[09:11] <newbuntu> is it possible that another process is using the sound from a previous session?
[09:12] <Frogzoo> newbuntu: you might see something like (if it's and AC97): Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03)
[09:12] <rixth> Is video4linux not included in the default kernel?
[09:12] <newbuntu> using the lspci commasnd?
[09:12] <rixth> I find it hard to believe.
[09:13] <Frogzoo> newbuntu: yup
[09:13] <newbuntu> 000:00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technol
[09:13] <newbuntu> ogies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller
[09:13] <newbuntu> (rev 50)
[09:13] <newbuntu> sorry for pasting
[09:13] <Frogzoo> newbuntu: we have a winner
[09:14] <newbuntu> now why wont that sucker load on boot
[09:14] <Frogzoo> newbuntu: you may just need to change: sys -> prefs -> multimedia selector -> output (try either OSS or alsa), input = alsa
[09:14] <newbuntu> i'll try that thx
[09:16] <newbuntu> i cant find sys> pref >multimedia ..   am I missing something?
[09:17] <Frogzoo> newbuntu: from the toolbar
[09:17] <m_0_r_0_n> Any idea what the difference is between the command "source .bashrc" and ". bashrc". Both commands should reinitialize the srcript.
[09:17] <newbuntu> im in kbuntu is there a difference in that regard?
[09:17] <Frogzoo> newbuntu: system -> preferences -> multimedia selector
[09:17] <m_0_r_0_n> ". .bashrc"
[09:18] <Frogzoo> newbuntu: yes, but I don't use kde, so I don't know
[09:18] <newbuntu> i see
[09:18] <Frogzoo> newbuntu: someone will fix you up, I'm on my way out, so good luck
[09:18] <newbuntu> im in kde
[09:18] <newbuntu> thanks a lot
[09:18] <Frogzoo> yw
[09:19] <newbuntu> can anyone help me with an alsa sound problem ?
[09:19] <m_0_r_0_n> What problem?
[09:20] <newbuntu> I have  no sound, using kbuntu 5.10 , with alsa installed
[09:20] <void^> see if `cat /proc/asound/cards` has your soundcard. if it does it's probably just arts hogging it.
[09:20] <bliss1_> DBO: hi, which blend today?
[09:21] <newbuntu> my lspci says  0000:00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller
[09:21] <bliss1_> void^: hi hows it going
[09:21] <newbuntu> arts seems to run a lot in ksystemguard whether or not i turn anything on
[09:22] <newbuntu> it says :  VIA8233 - VIA 8235
[09:22] <newbuntu>                      VIA 8235 with unknown codec at 0xe000, irq 22
[09:22] <newbuntu> sorry again for the paste
[09:22] <pkh> I'm trying to run amarok in ubuntu -- it works perfectly except for the fact that it can't find my ipod shuffe when it's inserted...  I assume this is a problem with not running kde underneath it.  Anyone know what I need to do/load for it to work?
[09:23] <etienner> newbuntu, I'm not an expert, but to select alsa or OSS with kde you have to go to System preferences (or something like this) and than Sound and Multimedia -> Hardware -> Sound System -> Hardware -> Select the audio device
[09:23] <newbuntu> void is that normal?
[09:23] <newbuntu> im in kde and there is only ksystemsettings
[09:24] <etienner> If you have kde you should have kcontrol
[09:25] <newbuntu> i see the equivilent of what you are talking about, im on autodetect, should I change it to alsa?
[09:25] <void^> newbuntu: so the kernel sees your card.. those older via onboard chips have no hardware mixing so if arts if running and active your applications will have to use arts for sound output, or disable arts and use alsa directly (one at a time only)
[09:25] <SlicerDicer> you can install ubuntu on fat16 right?
[09:25] <void^> SlicerDicer: er. not easily. perhaps with umsdos. but that's so 90s.
[09:26] <SlicerDicer> bah
[09:26] <etienner> I don't know, but I wanted to tell you where you find this settings on kde...
[09:26] <SlicerDicer> void^: well it was a idea haha
[09:26] <SlicerDicer> void^: not a good one but a idea none the less
[09:26] <highvoltage> how do i enable cups web administration in ubuntu?
[09:27] <newbuntu> should I set the preference to alsa instead od autodetect>?
[09:27] <bliss1_> void^: thanks for your help on my partition prb a week ok worked ok, but now trying to resize the partition is not happening
[09:27] <SlicerDicer> umm point your browser to cups? such as localhost:657 or whatever your port is highvoltage
[09:28] <highvoltage> SlicerDicer: i can do that, but it doesn't allow me to log in to change settings
[09:28] <rappo> I'm trying to setup xgl and I followed all the steps, but it says failed to load module "nvidia" ... for some reason I dont have it.. what would I do to apt-get?
[09:28] <highvoltage> SlicerDicer: i remember having to change a setting in my cupsd.conf file before to enable that in ubuntu, but forgot where that is
[09:28] <dominic_> hi liable are you still their?
[09:28] <dominic_> hi liable are you still their?
[09:28] <dominic_> can you check my pastebin
[09:28] <dominic_> about webcam peoblem
[09:28] <dominic_> webcam problem
[09:28] <SlicerDicer> highvoltage: then your computer is mad at you ;-) I really dont have enough experience with ubuntu yet I am a gentoo user who just switched
[09:29] <newbuntu> hey void thanks a lot, one final question , how do i disable arts ?
[09:29] <qmf> im having trouble mounting a network folder. = mount: special device //server/Music does not exist < but it does exist.
[09:29] <dominic_> liable hello
[09:29] <dominic_> hellow people
[09:29] <dominic_> anybody can view my pastebin
[09:29] <newbuntu> can i just unistall it or do i disable it elsewhere?
[09:29] <SlicerDicer> highvoltage: I dont know about logging in and all that yet via cups I did it with gentoo but also consdier that your permissions for logging in may not be set
[09:29] <dominic_> regarding
[09:29] <Madpilot> !tell dominic_ about enter
[09:29] <dominic_> web dmesg
[09:29] <SlicerDicer> highvoltage: check that out actually on the permissions
[09:29] <qmf> woah, newbuntu - your name is the name of my blog :P
[09:29] <dominic_> hellow
[09:29] <highvoltage> SlicerDicer: it's not permissions
[09:30] <newbuntu> great minds think alike
[09:30] <dominic_> anybody can help me to read my pastebin
[09:30] <highvoltage> small minds never differ :)
[09:30] <Madpilot> dominic_, if you want someone to read your pastebin, you have to actually post the URL it's at
[09:30] <dominic_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11662
[09:30] <SlicerDicer> highvoltage: there is actual settings that are for cups like /etc/cups or somesuch let me check that control logins
[09:30] <dominic_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11662
[09:30] <dominic_> i downloaded the pwc
[09:30] <dominic_> driver
[09:30] <dominic_> for my cam
[09:31] <newbuntu> why would arts keep running in the background everytime I boot?
[09:31] <SlicerDicer> highvoltage: /etc/cups/cupsd.conf look at that
[09:31] <Madpilot> dominic_, please stop hitting ENTER so much!
[09:31] <dominic_> /dev/video
[09:31] <SlicerDicer> and the other files contained in there
[09:31] <SlicerDicer> highvoltage: this is not my main machine I would check my settings for ya and doublecheck but I am doing a install of ubuntu on a drive with that systme hehe
[09:31] <newbuntu> ksystemguard just showed artsd running 3 times
[09:31] <highvoltage> SlicerDicer: yes, i have that, i don't know what to change inside cupsd.conf :/
[09:32] <bliss1_> Madpilot: hi can you you read the output from a dmesg and tell me what it means please
[09:32] <SlicerDicer> highvoltage: going to be around for the next half hour?
[09:32] <SlicerDicer> highvoltage: if you are I will be done and able to help
[09:32] <highvoltage> SlicerDicer: yep
[09:32] <dominic_> could not connect /dev/video
[09:32] <liable> dominic_: whats the url?
[09:32] <SlicerDicer> alright I just got to complete this install hehe
[09:32] <Madpilot> bliss1_, maybe, but I'm hardly a hardware expert - pastebin it and post the URL here
[09:32] <dominic_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11662
[09:33] <SlicerDicer> highvoltage: I am setting up a mythtv box for my kitchen so I can use mythrecipe and access different cooking recipes :) kinda important *grin*
[09:33] <newbuntu> if artsd keeps running in the background, can I just unistall artsd and use alsa , so I can get sound back?
[09:33] <Madpilot> bliss1_, and explain what people are supposed to be looking at or for in you dmesg post, of course
[09:33] <liable> dominic_: thats better
[09:33] <bliss1_> Madpilot: trouble with RAM
[09:33] <dominic_> ls /dev/video
[09:33] <dominic_> no such file or directory
[09:34] <bliss1_> Madpilot: i will post it
[09:34] <liable> dominic_: sudo MAKDEV video
[09:34] <dominic_> sudo makedev video
[09:34] <dominic_> thats it
[09:34] <dominic_> ok wait
[09:34] <liable> dominic_: MAKEDEV, not makedev
[09:34] <dominic_> ok capital letter
[09:35] <rappo> when i try to apt-get install  nvidia-glx it tells me that he package is missing :(
[09:35] <dominic_> then yes
[09:35] <dominic_> finish
[09:35] <dominic_> wats next
[09:35] <dominic_> ls /dev/video
[09:35] <liable> dominic_: now replug it
[09:35] <dominic_> the usb cam
[09:35] <liable> yes
[09:35] <dominic_> ok
[09:36] <void^> newbuntu: you can just disable arts in kcontrol.
[09:36] <Madpilot> dominic_, last warning - do NOT spam the channel with one word per line like you've been doing.
[09:37] <Madpilot> !enter
[09:37] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[09:37] <Chousuke> hmm.
[09:37] <ic56> dominic_: please stop flooding the channel.  Please type your sentence in *one* line.
[09:37] <bliss1_> Madpilot: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11552
[09:37] <dominic_> liable i finish replug my usb camera
[09:37] <Chousuke> Doesn't X.org 7 already include OSS 3d accelerated drivers for the Radeon 9600?
[09:37] <Chousuke> does it work out-of-the-box on Ubuntu?
[09:38] <Madpilot> Chousuke, try #ubuntu+1 (if there's anyone there, of course...)
[09:38] <liable> dominic_: ok, now try whatever tools you were trying to connect to it.
[09:38] <dominic_>  USB disconnect, address 3
[09:38] <newbuntu> how can I save a session's settings when I logout?
[09:38] <dominic_>  new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 4
[09:38] <Madpilot> newbuntu, in Gnome, or in which app?
[09:38] <newbuntu> kde
[09:39] <liable> dominic_: does /dev/video0 exist now
[09:39] <ompaul> newbuntu, System Preferences Sessions from the menu and look in there
[09:39] <dominic_> nothing
[09:39] <dominic_> camorama
[09:39] <Madpilot> newbuntu, I think KDE saves session by default (but I don't run Kubuntu, so I could well be wrong)
[09:40] <newbuntu> kbuntu with kde doesnt have a system preferences sessions
[09:40] <goodshit> Anyone know foundry big iron. I can't remove this line from my config file. Any reason why I can't remove that. When I do a sh config i see this line access-list 111 deny ip 0.0.0.0 255.255.0.0 any so to get rid of it i did a (config)#no access-list 111 deny ip 0.0.0.0 255.255.0.0 any
[09:40] <goodshit> Error: No such entry...
[09:40] <Madpilot> bliss1_, have you run memtest on your system yet?
[09:41] <Madpilot> goodshit, want to find a friendlier nick, please?
[09:41] <bliss1_> bliss1: not recently but when I did there was not a error
[09:41] <PwcrLinux> !language
[09:41] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[09:42] <PwcrLinux> goodshit, change your nick
[09:42] <Madpilot> bliss1_, reboot your system, when the GRUB menu comes up hit Escape, the choose memtest86+ and let it run for a while
[09:42] <dominic_> liable still the same could not connect to video device /dev/video i use camorama the view my cam
[09:42] <ic56> goodshit: try "no access-list 111" without the rest of the line.
[09:43] <rappo> is there nvidia-glx for ppc? :/
[09:43] <liable> dominic_: paste  the latest dmesg output to paster
[09:43] <bliss1_> Mudpilot: yes it takes but why?
[09:43] <dominic_> ok
[09:44] <bliss1_> Madpilot: why run memtest what are we looking for
[09:44] <xanavim> Madpilot: hmmm... disabled the capslock with xmodmap... unfortunately, if I put any other key there it performs the action of that key *and* the normal capslock, so I had to just leave it as useless for now
[09:44] <Madpilot> bliss1_, memtest will run tests on your RAM & find faults
[09:45] <dominic_> liable > http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11663
[09:45] <PwcrLinux> Bliss1: pop in a live CD and run a memtest86, leave on overnight till you find a errors..
[09:46] <bliss1_> Madpilot: what I am doing is allocating memoer to qemu virtual before I install a guest os
[09:46] <Madpilot> bliss1_, is the machine freezing, or crashing randomly, or is it just applications that are messing up?
[09:47] <bliss1_> Madpilot: did you read the dmesg
[09:48] <newbuntu> howdy folks
[09:48] <dominic_> liable did you see it >> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11663
[09:48] <liable> dominic_: dunno, when you replug it, it seems not to register properly.
[09:48] <Madpilot> bliss1_, I assumed the dmesg stuff was actual RAM errors, not something to do with qemu - I know zip about qemu - sorry
[09:49] <ic56> xanavim: as far as xmodmap is concerned, capslock is a modifier key. Try xmodmap clear Lock.
[09:49] <newbuntu> is it normal to have artsd running in  the background all the time? I tried to unistall all the arts applications I have and artsd keeps showing up and hogging the sound
[09:49] <pilgrim> Anyone know why the changed for my preferred browser don't work? I'm using the "Preferred Applications" window.
[09:50] <pilgrim> changes*
[09:50] <dominic_> i do the instruction on how to install pwc ;
[09:51] <pilgrim> dominic_, was that directed at me?
[09:51] <liable> pilgrim: you could try 'update-alternatives --config x-www-browser' might work.
[09:51] <bliss1_> Madpilot: yes your correct I have 768of RAM and allocated 512 to qemu whicih is 2/3rd's but when it got to 61% of install it killed it out of memory
[09:51] <liable> pilgrim: with sudo..
[09:52] <pilgrim> liable, hmm, ok.
[09:52] <pilgrim> liable, and how the heck do you know about this thing?
[09:52] <ChrisLSD> whats the best package to get to allow me to read NTFS drives... I dont really care about writing
[09:52] <liable> pilgrim: might work, might not.
[09:53] <bluey> is it possible to change the ubuntu bootsplash resolution using the kernel line in grub? currently it doesn't use my monitors native resolution.
[09:53] <alee> hi i have about 100 client users and want to setup and internal email server what is the best email package available in ubuntu 5.04 ?
[09:54] <pilgrim> liable, not working ;(
[09:54] <liable> pilgrim: bugger
[09:55] <PwcrLinux> wb thor
[09:56] <pilgrim> liable, when I enter a number at the prompt. the '*' changes postion but not the '+'. Is this supposed to happen?
[09:56] <bliss1_> thoreauputic: how's it going?
[09:56] <sfar> i just installed apache.. sooooo where is it? :)
[09:56] <sfar> or i.e. HOW can i find it?
[09:57] <PwcrLinux> thor: are you on xchat 2.6.0?
[09:57] <sfar> -i.e
[09:57] <phrizer> sfar, find it?
[09:57] <thoreauputic> PwcrLinux: no
[09:57] <bliss1_> thoreauputic: how's it going?
[09:57] <m_0_r_0_n> Do you know the meaning of the fileattribute s?
[09:57] <sfar> phrizer: yeah, the folder where to put my files and edit the config file
[09:57] <thoreauputic> bliss1_: not bad :)
[09:57] <phrizer> sfar, it should be running.
[09:57] <sfar> it is running
[09:57] <PwcrLinux> Thor: Okay I thought you having problem on xchat :)
[09:57] <Madpilot> sfar, in your browser, type "http://localhost/"
[09:57] <liable> pilgrim: i cant remember to tell the truth, and i only have one browser installed atm, so i cant check
[09:58] <thoreauputic> PwcrLinux: oh no - my problems are far deeper than that ;)
[09:58] <sfar> Madpilot: i know.. but.. i want to have my own page there and i cant find the folder where to put the files :)
[09:58] <pilgrim> I see. I think I might sacrifice ephiphany for a while.
[09:58] <alee> what is the best pop mail server in ubuntu
[09:59] <Madpilot> sfar, /var/www - at least by default, you can change it
[09:59] <phrizer> sfar, look in /etc/apache for configuration.
[09:59] <PwcrLinux> Thor: I dislike the xchat 2.6.0 there is no x beside the topic bar.. and I had to use channelbar menus to close a tab..
[10:00] <bliss1_> thoreauputic: if I have 768mb and allocate say 512 to another aopplication why shold that applcation stop at 61% stage and be out of memory see http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11552
[10:00] <sfar> thanks Madpilot and phrizer
[10:01] <thoreauputic> bliss1_: I don't know
[10:02] <thoreauputic> bliss1_: is this mac-on-linux or some other thing like vmware?
[10:02] <PwcrLinux> bliss: go to terminal box and type a command "free" (without a qoutes) to see how much the ram available?
[10:02] <bliss1_> thoreauputic:  yes linux  install a linux guest on qemu
[10:03] <pilgrim> liable, thanks for your help.
[10:04] <thoreauputic> bliss1_: it' sbeen a whle since I played with qemu - but I assume you have misconfigured it somehow
[10:05] <bliss1_> thoreauputic: it does not confiuring
[10:06] <bliss1_> thoreauputic: it does need configuring just install from sysnaptic manager
[10:06] <php-coder> hi all
[10:06] <thoreauputic> bliss1_: I meant you have made some error in the way you are running it ( wrong flags or something like that)
[10:07] <php-coder> i have some errors from autoconfigure -fisv:
[10:07] <php-coder> aclocal: configure.in: 0: macro `AM_PATH_GTK' not found in library
[10:07] <thoreauputic> bliss1_: and of course it is configurable - it must have a config file
[10:07] <php-coder> aclocal: configure.in: 19: macro `AM_PROG_LIBTOOL' not found in library
[10:07] <php-coder> tell me please what package i should install ?
[10:07] <php-coder> :-) thnx
[10:08] <bliss1_> thoreauputic: is that what the dsmeg suggests
[10:08] <thoreauputic> bliss1_: the honest answer is that I don't understand the dmesg output
[10:09] <thoreauputic> bliss1_: why are you directing this question at me? Ask the channel as a whole
[10:09] <bliss1_> thoreauputic: ok sorry keep cool man
[10:10] <alee> did anyone use xmail before ?
[10:10] <kameron> sudo apt-get install linux-image-2.6.15-30-386 tells me it's already the newest version, but uname -r shows that i'm running the -15-... upgrading kernels with dist-upgrade also doesn't work. anyone else have this problem? i'm running kubuntu dapper.
[10:10] <thoreauputic> no need to apoogise - just don't assume I know everything ;-)
[10:10] <alee> please need to know if it works fine ?
[10:11] <sfar> Madpilot: is there anything critical i should do to enhance the security on my box as i now have a server running?
[10:11] <Madpilot> sfar, you might want to have a look at wiki.ubuntu.com/BastilleLinux
[10:13] <Nolt> hello
[10:13] <RemyLaptop> hi guys, anyone know how to connect an ipaq to ubuntu ?
[10:13] <Nolt> hey i have big problem with this shitty gptf when i want delete folder from ftp program exit by it selfs ....
[10:13] <RemyLaptop> I just want to get files across to it...
[10:13] <RemyLaptop> !ipaq
[10:13] <PwcrLinux> !language
[10:13] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, RemyLaptop
[10:13] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[10:13] <Nolt> where is a better FTP client for ubuntu ?
[10:14] <Nolt> llike filezilla or somthin ?
[10:14] <RemyLaptop> gftp
[10:14] <RemyLaptop> I use that no worries...
[10:14] <Nolt> as u see i have problems with it
[10:14] <Nolt> when he read list of folders and there is more than 200
[10:14] <Nolt> he exit by it self
[10:15] <RemyLaptop> hm
[10:15] <Nolt> its kinda stupid
[10:15] <RemyLaptop> no idea then sorry :)
[10:15] <Nolt> :/
[10:16] <RemyLaptop> !pda
[10:16] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, RemyLaptop
[10:16] <RemyLaptop> !pocketpc
[10:16] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, RemyLaptop
[10:17] <ic56> Nolt: which ftp client are you using?
[10:18] <void^> !palm
[10:18] <ubotu> methinks palm is http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-HOWTO/PalmOS-HOWTO.html#PC-CONNECT-USB
[10:18] <PwcrLinux> nolt left
[10:18] <bobbyd_> hi
[10:18] <dominic_> liable are you still their
[10:19] <bobbyd_> if I move a hard drive from one machine to another (compatible CPUs). How do I get Kubuntu to redetect all the hardware?
[10:19] <bobbyd_> basically the old machine died and I want to migrate the system to a new machine
[10:19] <dominic_> i remove my pwc driver for my webcam and re-install another pwc compatible driver for my kernel
[10:20] <twb> Can I prevail upon someone running unadulterated Dapper to do
[10:20] <twb> dpkg -S /usr/share/icons/default | awk -F ':' '{print $2}' | sort | uniq
[10:20] <twb> and tell me the output?
[10:23] <ic56> twb: dpkg: /usr/share/icons/default not found.
[10:23] <twb> Shite.
[10:24] <ic56> twb: /usr/share/icons/ exists but there's no `default' under it.
[10:24] <dominic_> /dev/video problem i fnish installing my pwc driver
[10:24] <twb> I wonder why ubuntu-artwork=12 expects something there.
[10:25] <twb> Setting up ubuntu-artwork (12) ...
[10:25] <twb> No theme index file in '/usr/share/icons/default'.
[10:25] <twb> If you really want to create an icon cache here, use --ignore-theme-index.
[10:25] <Killgore> hey fellas
[10:25] <Killgore> and ladies
[10:25] <dominic_> /dev/video problem i fnish installing my pwc driver
[10:25] <bobbyd_> anyone?
[10:26] <twb> dominic_: price waterhouse cooper?
[10:26] <newbuntu> is there a way to disable the arts sound server in kde? it keeps hogging my sound and i get no sound on bootup
[10:26] <twb> newbuntu: killall -9 artsd
[10:26] <Killgore> ive just wiped my ubuntu partition and gone through the windows installation but when it comes to boot from the hard drive it just sits there. I had grub installed but shouldnt windows overwrite it?
[10:26] <dominic_> what twb
[10:26] <twb> dominic_: nuffin'.
[10:27] <newbuntu> twb is there a way to make that every time I boot?
[10:27] <twb> I would put "killall -9 artsd" in my ~/.xinitrc file, but you probably use a graphical login.
[10:28] <newbuntu> everytime I start and dont have sound i look in the process table and artsd is running
[10:28] <Killgore> so how would i get rid of grub in place of the windows bootloader; without wiping the MBR
[10:28] <ic56> Killgore: maybe Windows had trouble with the partition id being non-windows?  Try booting from a linux liveCD or floppy and using fdisk to set it to something windowsy.
[10:29] <Killgore> ic56: i wiped all the linux paritions and formatted a new NTFS one so there are none, i would think
[10:30] <winterth> 123
[10:30] <twb> 456
[10:30] <winterth> 789
[10:30] <twb> We're gonna rock around the clock tonight!
[10:31] <Killgore> lol
[10:31] <newbuntu> adept locked up on me and I killed it now several programs like kcontrol , systemsettings etc disappeared
[10:31] <Killgore> is there a better channel than #grub for grub related stuff
[10:31] <dominic_> my creative webcam is not detected with my camorama
[10:32] <dominic_> i installed pwc
[10:34] <winterth> 123
[10:39] <PwcrLinux> How to convert the png to jpg filename?
[10:39] <spiritz> u
[10:40] <Killgore> so anybody know how to install windows bootloader after installing grub?
[10:40] <noiesmo> PwcrLinux, Gimp
[10:40] <DBO> Killgore, yes, but you will lose access to linux if you do so
[10:40] <DBO> Killgore, is that ok??
[10:40] <PwcrLinux> Noie: Gimp didn't have "Convert".
[10:40] <noiesmo> Killgore, did grub not see your windows install
[10:40] <drummer87> you can use the win bootloader with linux
[10:41] <drummer87> saw an article on it a while back
[10:41] <noiesmo> PwcrLinux, but you can save as
[10:41] <ic56> Killgore: I recall an utility for restoring a generic mbr but fdisk doesn't seem to be it.  Sorry.  Might still be worth booting in Linux to examine and verify all is ok.
[10:41] <DBO> drummer87, if you know how to put it in, yes you can
[10:41] <drummer87> never done it myself though
[10:41] <bobbyd_> Killgore: boot windows disk, recovery console, fixmbr
[10:41] <PwcrLinux> Noie: ah, let me try..
[10:41] <bobbyd_> Killgore: or fdisk /mbr
[10:42] <noiesmo> Killgore, my windows grub entry title           Microsoft Windows XP Professional
[10:42] <bobbyd_> Killgore: that will stop access to linux though...
[10:42] <noiesmo> root            (hd0,0)
[10:42] <noiesmo> savedefault
[10:42] <noiesmo> makeactive
[10:42] <noiesmo> chainloader     +1
[10:42] <DBO> Killgore, does you box already have windows on it?
[10:43] <Killgore> noiesmo: no ive gotten rid of linux completely for the moment
[10:44] <Killgore> bobbyd_: ok ill try that
[10:44] <YukiCuss> Killgore, curious, why's it off?
[10:45] <Killgore> YukiCuss: hmm good question
[10:45] <Killgore> how good is cedaga and wine for playing games? will i get an FPS hit
[10:45] <DBO> yes you will see a FPS hit IF they run at all
[10:46] <DBO> not all games run in wine or cedega
[10:46] <Killgore> lol
[10:46] <YukiCuss> Killgore, I have no idea about cedega; I've used wine to play Starcraft with nothing noticably different at all.
[10:46] <DBO> old games like starcraft of course run fine
[10:46] <YukiCuss> DBO, not necessarily, if your graphics card is set up.
[10:46] <YukiCuss> Killgore, with a little work, I've also played WC3:TFT.
[10:46] <noiesmo> Killgore, I have played battlefield 1942 on cedega and think runs better than windows but slower to load
[10:47] <DBO> I play WoW with Wine, I get a slight FPS difference (about 10%) from linux to windows
[10:47] <YukiCuss> Not bad!
[10:47] <Killgore> what about hl2? have people gotten that to run
[10:47] <DBO> YukiCuss, not bad at all!
[10:47] <noiesmo> Killgore, cedega has its place but as DBO says not all games work
[10:47] <YukiCuss> Killgore, google around and see.
[10:47] <DBO> Killgore, I believe they have
[10:47] <ic56> !fixmbr
[10:47] <ubotu> To put MS-Windows back on a disk that previously had Linux, boot from the Windows disk, go into the recovery console, and type fixmbr.  Another alternative is to type fdisk/mbr
[10:48] <Killgore> i just dont really have the hardware to take much of a hit
[10:48] <Killgore> its a struggle to run most games
[10:48] <bliss1_> DBO: what blend are you tday?
[10:48] <DBO> Killgore, nobody in here is going to lie to you, windows is the better platform if you want to game because the games are written for it
[10:48] <Killgore> ic56: yer someone mentioned that before. I didnt know ubotu knew about windows
[10:48] <DBO> bliss1_, laced with coke
[10:49] <Killgore> DBO: yer thats the truth i guess
[10:49] <DBO> Killgore, that doesnt mean dual booting isnt an option
[10:49] <bliss1_> DBO: you should start your own business in coffee as a sideline
[10:49] <concept10> OO.o doesnt take on GTK themes, any suggestions on how I can get this back?
[10:50] <ic56> DBO, Killgore: unless you want to play Doom or other games first written for Linux
[10:50] <ic56> -)
[10:50] <DBO> ic56, Dooms support has more to do with the fact that it was written for OpenGL, but they definately made it with windows in mind
[10:50] <YukiCuss> I'm off, back later..
[10:51] <DBO> its just easier to port because it doesnt depend on DX
[10:51] <Patient> try this site.http://www.ubuntuguide.org
[10:51] <DBO> bliss1_, I may... I may...
[10:51] <DBO> erm...
[10:51] <DBO> ubuntuguide.org is outdated
[10:51] <Patient> ic
[10:51] <bliss1_> DBO: you should just do it I am sure you will enjoy it
[10:51] <Killgore> the squarecows one is better
[10:52] <Patient> do u know any updated sites??
[10:52] <DBO> !wiki
[10:52] <Killgore> yeah there is one
[10:52] <Killgore> but i cant quite remember the url
[10:52] <Killgore> hang on a tick
[10:53] <DBO> http://wiki.ubuntu.com
[10:53] <andyjeffries> Can you install Ubuntu in to an existing partition/filesystem?  I'm currently a Gentoo user and have a reiserfs / partition with 200MB of data in it.  I'd like to be able to boot (maybe a gentoo livecd), move all folders to /old so / effectively only has one folder, install Ubuntu in to that filesystem, then go through moving my data in to /home etc from /old from within Ubuntu.  Possible or am I dreaming?
[10:54] <Killgore> heres one
[10:54] <Killgore> http://ubuntuguide.squarecows.com/doku.php
[10:55] <dominic_> my creative webcam is not detected with my camorama /dev/video problem
[10:55] <dominic_> my creative webcam is not detected with my camorama /dev/video problem "i download pwc driver and installed with compatible of my kernel"
[10:56] <Killgore> andyjeffries: hmm im not sure that the installer would like that
[10:56] <dominic_> my creative webcam is not detected with my camorama /dev/video problem::::   "i download pwc driver and installed with compatible of my kernel"
[10:56] <Killgore> andyjeffries: you could always back the data up, try it, then come back and tell us if it worked
[10:57] <DBO> andyjeffries, you could probably pull it off, but I dont recommend it...
[10:57] <noiesmo> andyjeffries, just dont format partitions use existing should be ok
[10:58] <DBO> noiesmo, he would have to be careful to remove almost everything else on the drive beforehand
[10:58] <noiesmo> DBO, yes but can be done in livecd envior
[10:58] <Killgore> andyjeffries: the point is that  you should back it up anyway
[10:59] <DBO> noiesmo, yes it can, just saying that I wouldnt want to do put my hand at it...
[10:59] <noiesmo> DBO, fair enough
[10:59] <PwcrLinux> noiesmo: it's work great
[11:00] <noiesmo> I' d mount the drive from live cd create a save dir then move all data to there and then delete everthing else
[11:00] <noiesmo> PwcrLinux, excellent
[11:01] <DBO> noiesmo, thats what I would do too, but i still wouldnt trust it without a backup.  Error on the side of caution and all...
[11:01] <noiesmo> DBO, I would also ofcourse back up every ting to other media or system before attempting it
[11:01] <DBO> well, we agree:-P
[11:01] <noiesmo> eeehaaaa :)
[11:01] <DBO> so there you have it andyjeffries, you can do it, but we dont suggest it without a backup
[11:01] <noiesmo> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
[11:02] <DBO> and in the future, partition your disks so you are not in a situation like this =)
[11:02] <DBO> especially in linux where switching your distro is common
[11:03] <ic56> andyjeffries: I think you can do that.  The Ubuntu installer seems to notice when a partition is already formatted.  If it is, it marks as to-be-reformatted.  You have the option under manual formatting, to change that flag to do-not-format.  The flags are displayed as single characters from the high-bit set. They look like sad faces.
[11:03] <Killgore> :(
[11:04] <ardar> test
[11:04] <ardar> test
[11:04] <DBO> you pass
[11:04] <DBO> A+
[11:04] <bolrod> Rigged!
[11:04] <Killgore> problem
[11:05] <DBO> yes?
[11:05] <Killgore> fixmbr says that it might ruin my partition table
[11:05] <DBO> dont worry
[11:05] <DBO> just do it
[11:05] <Killgore> and ive got another 60gb
[11:05] <bolrod> it does!
[11:05] <noiesmo> theres no suger
[11:05] <bolrod> >:)
[11:05] <Killgore> do it
[11:05] <bolrod> fixmbr?.. sounds awfull like windows!
[11:05] <DBO> Killgore, you need to adopt the Nike philosophy here, "just do it"
[11:05] <Killgore> or starsky and hutch
[11:05] <_OmAn_> pavri
[11:05] <_OmAn_> :D
[11:05] <noiesmo> Killgore, Dont worry theres no suger
[11:06] <bolrod> =)
[11:06] <Killgore> lol
[11:06] <PwcrLinux> lol, i have a S&H DVD
[11:06] <bolrod> ony cancer ccausing sugar replacements
[11:06] <bolrod> :x
[11:06] <Killgore> ok then but if i lose that data im coming over to wherever you live and punching you in the face
[11:06] <DBO> haha
[11:06] <DBO> killgore
[11:06] <DBO> back it up if you feel the need
[11:06] <Killgore> or ill get that device and stab you through the internet
[11:06] <Killgore> wish i could
[11:07] <DBO> then you have no choice huh?
[11:07] <Killgore> here goes nothing
[11:07] <bolrod> you always have a choice!
[11:07] <bolrod> unless you dont
[11:07] <noiesmo> Killgore, bang
[11:07] <bolrod> in which case.. you probably still have a choice
[11:07] <DBO> hey common, be nice to the poor guy, Im sure this is rather stressful for him
[11:07] <Patient> how can i mount fat32 so that i can see it in linux
[11:07] <Patient> how can i mount fat32 so that i can see it in linux?
[11:07] <bolrod> good practice >:)
[11:08] <bolrod> hehe
[11:08] <LoCusF> !repeat
[11:08] <ubotu> [repeat]  Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you.  You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://www.ubuntuforums.org while you wait.
[11:08] <bolrod> fixmbr doesn't touch data partitions
[11:08] <noiesmo> Patient, mount -t vfat /dev/xxx /mnt/xxx
[11:08] <Patient> tnx
[11:09] <PwcrLinux> Or use Disk Mounter program
[11:10] <DBO> meh, edit fstab yourself =)
[11:10] <bolrod> or just read the binary data from /dev/.d.#
[11:10] <bolrod> something
[11:11] <Killgore> hmm
[11:11] <Killgore> interesting
[11:11] <Killgore> that had no effect at all
[11:11] <DBO> Killgore, yeah, I know, because windows already overwrote your MBR when you installed it
[11:11] <DBO> I was kinda curious why you wanted to run fixmbr, but Im not one to ask questions
[11:11] <Killgore> DBO: so ill have to go through the installation again?
[11:11] <DBO> of windows?
[11:12] <DBO> no, something else is wrong
[11:12] <Killgore> well the booting and copying part
[11:12] <bdmp> can cd/dvd creator write isos?
[11:12] <bolrod> boot a livecd
[11:12] <bolrod> and back up the partition
[11:12] <bolrod> or move the data somewhere else over network
[11:12] <bolrod> and then reinstall everything
[11:12] <DBO> Killgore, you just installed windows correct?
[11:12] <bliss1_> DBO; do you understand dmesg print-out's a small one
[11:13] <DBO> bliss1_, enough to google them
[11:13] <Killgore> well i got up to the point where it reboots the computer and tries to boot from hd
[11:13] <andyjeffries> Thanks everyone, I had to pop out for 5 (bad timing I know having just posted a question).  Thanks for all the hints, I'll back up the important stuff and risk losing the rest some time.  But I'll try the manual option and turning off formatting.
[11:13] <Killgore> good luck
[11:13] <noiesmo> Killgore, tell use excatly what you've done
[11:14] <Killgore> ok
[11:14] <Killgore> i booted the ubuntu install cd
[11:14] <abnoy> guys i have just installed enlightenment on ubuntu breezy.. how will i run it?
[11:14] <abnoy> i just use this as my reference http://www.soulmachine.net/wiki/index.php?title=Enlightenment_on_Ubuntu_5.10_(Breezy_Badger)
[11:14] <Killgore> erased partition 1(previous windows),2(previous ubuntu),3(swap) and 4 is a data partition
[11:15] <PwcrLinux> bdmp: pop in your blank CD, and waiting for disc icon appearing on desktop then you use CDRecorder if they have a ISO option..
[11:15] <DBO> abnoy, call me crazy, but I think that link is blank
[11:15] <Killgore> rebooted with windows install cd and created a ntfs partition with the empty space and windows copyied the files it neede
[11:15] <abnoy> blank?
[11:15] <ic56> who's the guy with the /dev/video problem?  You still here?
[11:15] <DBO> abnoy, yeah, click your link
[11:15] <ubuntu_> sali zm
[11:15] <Killgore> machine reboots and it tries to boot from CD then just sits there with the cursor. Then i did the fixmbr
[11:16] <abnoy> there's nothing wrong with it and its workin' fine with me
[11:16] <DBO> hmmm
[11:16] <Killgore> sim sim sala bim
[11:16] <DBO> Killgore, how many HDD's you got?
[11:16] <abnoy> anyway could you pls guide me for a neat way to do it?
[11:16] <Killgore> just one, and ive looked in the BIOS and tried HDD-0 and HDD-1 but same thing
[11:17] <Killgore> i might try the installer again
[11:17] <DBO> Killgore, do that
[11:17] <DBO> ic56, hes not here anymore
[11:18] <Gimma> sali zm
[11:18] <DBO> O_o
[11:18] <Baze> tag gimma
[11:18] <Gimma> hey baze
[11:18] <abnoy> anyone pls?
[11:19] <Gimma> was wilsch
[11:19] <Gimma> ?
[11:19] <Baze> did u search friend
[11:19] <Baze> s
[11:19] <PwcrLinux> okay gn all :)
[11:19] <DBO> gn
[11:19] <bliss1_> DBO: read this line  The "-m" switch to the qemu command controls virtual memory, 128MB is the default  if I nees more virtual memory is it neccessary to alter the default?
[11:19] <Baze> all mother ****
[11:20] <Gimma> hey hets da au schwizer din?
[11:20] <Baze> jo
[11:20] <ubuntu_> ja ich du mingo
[11:20] <ubuntu_> mongo
[11:20] <Gimma> nei ohni scheiss etz
[11:20] <Baze> he mingo
[11:20] <Gimma> dini muter
[11:20] <ubuntu_> hei gimma
[11:20] <Baze> alles sklave
[11:20] <ubuntu_> du dumme mnsch
[11:20] <Gimma> ia heil
[11:21] <DBO> no, I imagein you just need to use the switch bliss1_...
[11:21] <ompaul> !de
[11:21] <Baze> shaggy
[11:21] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de
[11:21] <Baze> du volltrottel
[11:21] <pi6502> hello all ... i have a question regarding installing ubuntu on an already "dualed" laptop
[11:21] <bliss1_> DBO; thats what I thought
[11:21] <pi6502> i have fedora installed on it using grub and I would like to substitue it with ubuntu
[11:21] <Gimma> hey ir scheis wixers schnurd doch dtsch
[11:21] <Baze> zero knowless about computers
[11:22] <Gimma> hey download frost wire
[11:22] <Gimma> ;)
[11:22] <pi6502> can i just install ubuntu over fedora? do i need to take smthg into account?
[11:22] <Dini> hei sali
[11:22] <Baze> rci du fettsack
[11:22] <bliss1_> DBO; i 768mb so I issued this command $ sudo qemu -cdrom /dev/cdrom -boot d -m 512 hardisk.img
[11:23] <noiesmo> pi6502, yes you can
[11:23] <thoreauputic> Dini, Baze - this is an English channel
[11:23] <Baze> suechch kiollege
[11:23] <Gimma> ok den fuck you halt
[11:23] <pi6502> @noesimo, what bootloader does ubuntu use?
[11:23] <noiesmo> pi6502, just use the right partitions when installing ubuntu and make sure you dont install over ur windows
[11:23] <DBO> bliss1_, without playing with qemu, I couldnt tell you, just do a man qemu and check
[11:23] <Baze> nigger
[11:23] <PwcrLinux-Away> !language
[11:23] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[11:23] <Bei> hei
[11:24] <Killgore> ive never had windows installed on D: drive before :P
[11:24] <Gimma> hey rici du nigga
[11:24] <bliss1_> DBO: the command is fine
[11:24] <noiesmo> pi6502, grub
[11:24] <Killgore> or lilo
[11:24] <Bei> du bisch en wisse niggea
[11:24] <Bei> nigga
[11:24] <thoreauputic> ?ban Bei
[11:24] <pi6502> @noeismo, ok, so i just need to tell ubuntu to remove all exitsing linux partition
[11:24] <noiesmo> Killgore, I havent installed a ubuntu or kubuntu yet that uses lilo sorry
[11:25] <noiesmo> pi6502, no use them
[11:25] <noiesmo> pi6502, i'd just reformat then , well install will give optuion
[11:25] <Killgore> noiesmo: no if you get to the grub install part and hit esc, you can choose between lilo and grub
[11:25] <pi6502> @noesimo, ok i meant linux installation, not partition ;)
[11:25] <noiesmo> Killgore, well there you go
[11:25] <bliss1_> DBO: I read the man last night before I used it thanks Frogzoo who advised the same
[11:26] <DBO> bliss1_, the man pages really can teach you just about anything you need to know about linux
[11:26] <pi6502> @noesimo, thanks than I sign off! Bye
[11:26] <Phirum> hei
[11:26] <DBO> 90% of the questions that get answered here are on the man pages
[11:26] <Phirum> bin wieder wiisi niggis
[11:26] <noiesmo> rtfm
[11:27] <PwcrLinux-Away> !language
[11:27] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[11:27] <DBO> busy night huh thoreauputic?
[11:27] <noiesmo> who me
[11:28] <noiesmo> sorry about that
[11:28] <thoreauputic> DBO: heh
[11:28] <DBO> noiesmo, I think he was talking to Phirum
[11:28] <bliss1_> DBO; yes the man pages and the docs at the qemu web site are very helpful so here is the dsmeg http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11552 what  parts would you google (as this is what you said before)
[11:28] <noiesmo> oops just read it
[11:28] <dominic_> kapoya uy
[11:28] <dominic_> mga pangit mga tawo dri
[11:28] <dominic_> bilasa
[11:28] <dominic_> alay bout
[11:28] <Killgore> i think i give up on windows
[11:28] <noiesmo> dominic_, go away
[11:29] <thoreauputic> dominic_: english please
[11:29] <dominic_> dli kantigo bogo pati pag pa connect /dev/video dli mo tabang pangit adnormal
[11:29] <ic56> dominic_ does file /dev/video exist on your system?
[11:29] <dominic_> sir
[11:29] <dominic_> nothing
[11:29] <DBO> bliss1_, looks to me like you are running out of virtual memory and its kill qemu
[11:29] <zhLilDoggi> wheres ubuntu's fonts located at?
[11:30] <dominic_> ic56 help me pls.
[11:30] <noiesmo> Killgore, I take it you want to install windows and then linux again?
[11:30] <DBO> zhLilDoggi, /etc/fonts
[11:30] <zhLilDoggi> thanks
[11:30] <Killgore> noiesmo: i dont really have the room for that
[11:30] <Killgore> noiesmo: i might just install ubuntu
[11:30] <noiesmo> Killgore, ok so you just want windows
[11:30] <ic56> dominic_: type: cd /dev; sudo ./MAKEDEV video
[11:30] <Killgore> yer
[11:31] <dominic_> ok
[11:31] <noiesmo> Killgore, get dos boot floppy disk , boot up fdisk /mbr format the drive and then do the windws cd thing
[11:31] <ic56> dominic_ does file /dev/video now exist?
[11:32] <noiesmo> Killgore, format the drive total to fat32 before reinstall windows
[11:32] <dominic_> how can i check if file is exist
[11:32] <noiesmo> Killgore, then ntfs when install from cd
[11:32] <ic56> dominic_: ls /dev/video
[11:34] <dominic_> yes i hav now
[11:34] <noiesmo> Killgore, I had a drive I had installed linux on and want to install windows found windows didnt like the drive untill it had been totaly wipe and formated
[11:34] <dominic_> its highlited with sharp light blue
[11:34] <Killgore> noiesmo: thats what i was afraid of. I have the tools to wipe the drive, but dont want to
[11:35] <Killgore> noiesmo: ill wait untill i get another hd and install windows to that
[11:35] <bliss1_> DBO: yep thats it about it but when I run the -m swtitch commad I am asked to do this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11668 which I do and you would think it should be ok
[11:35] <dominic_> when i use my camorama could not connect to video /dev/video
[11:35] <ic56> dominic_: good.  I cannot help you further but at least you can now tell the next buy that that part has been done.  Also, please respect the rules of the channel.  You have repeatedly broken them over the past few hours and have annoyed many people.
[11:36] <ic56> dominic_: `buy' --> `guy'
[11:36] <tristan_> Hello
[11:36] <dominic_> thanks
[11:36] <tristan_> Anyone knows a tool to cut video files?
[11:36] <Killgore> is cedaga on apt? or will i have to compile it
[11:37] <tristan_> I downloaded the news and just want to keep part of it. How can I do?
[11:37] <ic56> tristan_: are you talking about Usenet newsgroups?
[11:37] <tristan_> No
[11:38] <tristan_> I speaking of tv news
[11:38] <ic56> tristan_: ah, no idea.  Sorry.
[11:38] <dominic_> i think do i nid to mount my usb
[11:40] <Killgore> AHA!
[11:40] <noiesmo> Killgore, np good luck :)
[11:40] <Killgore> linux wins again
[11:40] <Killgore> my data partition was set to bootable and the windows partition was not
[11:41] <Killgore> which idiot did that
[11:41] <noiesmo> Killgore, Dooh
[11:42] <Killgore> once more then i give up
[11:42] <mico> hi,  gonna install myself ubuntu from livecd, but i have ADSL connection, anyone knows how can i get ADSL to work after?
[11:42] <noiesmo> Killgore, it's all a learning curve
[11:42] <mico> and i want fvwm95 as a window manager, because i have 166mhz p2 with 32ram
[11:42] <mico> is it possible to get adsl and fvwm95 on ubuntu?
[11:43] <dominic_> my creative camera is completely annoying it took 3 days to configure my camera but still i cant watch it......
[11:43] <thoreauputic> Micksa: yes and yes
[11:43] <noiesmo> mico, if adsl works now for windows say it will work for ubuntu as long as using ethernet
[11:43] <mico> noiesmo does pppoeconf come with livecd?
[11:43] <thoreauputic> bah s/Micksa/mico
[11:43] <noiesmo> mico, not sure
[11:44] <Azertyuuu> hey all, if i enable nvidia-glx on my system, the fonts in KDE get smaller ! ? strange, although the size hasn't changed
[11:45] <bluey> where are the bindings stored for system->preferences->keyboard shortcuts ? there are things like launch media player which are defaulted to the wrong apps, where can they be changed?
[11:46] <bliss1_> are there any drawbacks to not having a swap partition
[11:46] <thoreauputic> bliss1_: yes
[11:46] <morefiend> bliss1_: everything has to be in memory
[11:47] <morefiend> if you run out it gets slow as hell
[11:47] <thoreauputic> bliss1_: if you run out of RAm, you have no backup
[11:47] <bluey> if you have 1+ gig of ram you will not use swap normally
[11:47] <morefiend> I have 768 and I rarely use swap
[11:47] <morefiend> but when I need it, I'm glad it's there
[11:48] <bluey> i've never used swap, i have 1 gig ram
[11:48] <thoreauputic> bluey: true - but it depends what you are doing - for instance heavy video editing can chew up your RAM
[11:48] <morefiend> speaking of which, is there a way to flush swap and force it to use RAM if available?
[11:48] <bluey> i can compile/game/music/encode etc etc all without using swap
[11:48] <Killgore> Azertyuuu: do you have a higher resolution or is it just small font
[11:48] <bliss1_> So I should make one since I only have one partition on my Harddrive and thats go ubuntu on it
[11:48] <thoreauputic> morefiend: the kernel does that for you
[11:49] <morefiend> I meant is there a userspace app that does it
[11:49] <thoreauputic> morefiend: you can do sudo swapoff -a && sudo swapon -a
[11:49] <Bambino> how di i open a log?
[11:49] <Bambino> I wanna read xorg.0.log
[11:49] <Killgore> nano, vi, nedit
[11:49] <Killgore> any of those programs
[11:49] <stu_> I like BEAVER ;-)
[11:49] <Killgore> ie
[11:49] <bluey> thoreauputic: ye, there is probably some occasions when you might need swap, i would say it's pretty rare though
[11:49] <thoreauputic> Bambino: or  less /var/log/xorg.0.log
[11:49] <Killgore> sudo nano xorg.0.log
[11:50] <morefiend> bambino: try vi, less, tail, etc
[11:50] <Killgore> thoreauputic: yeah that will show you the last 10 lines of the document
[11:50] <Killgore> no tail will
[11:50] <thoreauputic> Killgore: no it won't
[11:50] <sandra> Hello.
[11:50] <thoreauputic> Killgore: it will show it in the pager
[11:51] <Killgore> thoreauputic: irc is annoying with slow connections becuase you dont know if your ahead or behind someone
[11:51] <bluey> does anyone know where the bindings are stored for system->preferences->keyboard shortcuts in gnome ?
[11:51] <sandra> After installing ubuntu-desktop on my kubuntu box I can't boot it anymore. It fails to load devmapper (for my encrypted disks).
[11:52] <bliss1_> morefriend: so when you make a swap partiyion you alllocate RAM  to it but in which sort of cases would this ram be needed
[11:52] <sandra> The error is (among others): Incompatible libdevmapper 1.01.03 (2005-06-13)(compat) and kernel driver. ant ideas ?
[11:52] <thoreauputic> Killgore: right I missed your "tail" commnet
[11:52] <thoreauputic> Killgore: sorry
[11:52] <morefiend> bliss1_: you don't allocate ram to your swap partition
[11:52] <bluey> bliss1_: swap is virtual memory, it uses your harddisk
[11:53] <morefiend> you allocate disk space and use it when you run out of ram
[11:53] <Killgore> noisemo: >_<
[11:53] <Killgore> ok hes gone but still
[11:53] <morefiend> like someone said when doing video editing and sometimes when ripping or encoding digital audio
[11:53] <Killgore> >_<
[11:54] <Killgore> does anyone know how to change drive letter associations
[11:54] <morefiend> depends on your cpu and ram speed too
[11:54] <morefiend> killgore: drive letter?
[11:54] <Killgore> ok heres the problem
[11:54] <morefiend> as in hda hdb hdc etc?
[11:54] <Killgore> i have a fat32 partition which windows thinks is C: drive
[11:54] <thoreauputic> Killgore: #windows ? *grin*
[11:54] <Killgore> sorry windows question w/linux flavour
[11:55] <Killgore> just a sprinkling of linux :P
[11:55] <}{ircop}{> irc.irc-vse.org
[11:55] <bliss1_> bluey: thats maybe why I get a problem with qemu which is killed beacuse of not enough virtaul memory although I do have 768 of normal RAM
[11:55] <morefiend> are you trying to do it in windows or linux?
[11:55] <sandra> no one knows ?
[11:55] <Killgore> windows and linux
[11:55] <Killgore> hmm
[11:55] <Killgore> ill check out that chan
[11:56] <bluey> bliss1_: you would resize your swap partition, that would give you extra virtual memory
[11:56] <bluey> could*
[11:56] <morefiend> sandra: sorry, I don't use encrypted fs
[11:57] <bliss1_> bluey: how big should my swap partition be I do not think I have one at all is that possible
[11:57] <ic56> Killgore: on Windows, try `help assign'.
[11:57] <Killgore> 512mb or 2.5 times your ram
[11:57] <Azertyuuu> Killgore:  it's the same resolution. The fonts in Opera don't change, it only happens in KDE
[11:57] <Killgore> ic56: yeah? with or without quotes
[11:57] <bluey> bliss1_: sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda
[11:57] <morefiend> 2.5 times ram when you have a more then 768 or so is somewhat wasteful
[11:58] <Killgore> yes true
[11:58] <morefiend> really it all depends on what you plan on doing
[11:58] <thoreauputic> 512 MB swap is enough in general
[11:58] <bluey> bliss1_: if you see Linux swap / Solaris, thats your swap partition
[11:59] <Killgore> unless you have a woefully low amount of ram
[11:59] <Killgore> ic56: nothing happened
[11:59] <morefiend> killgore what version of windows are you running?
[12:00] <Killgore> XP pro although it isnt installed yet
[12:00] <morefiend> use disk management to change the drive letter in windows
[12:00] <ic56> bliss1: give yourself as much swap as you think you need to be able to run your apps.  A few decades ago, the rule of thumb was twice your memory.  That's when servers had 4 MB RAM and people were willing to put up with insane slowness to get the job done.  These rules won't serve you well if you're accustomed to a modern environment.  Today the object is to minimize swap.
[12:00] <bliss1_> bluey; http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11669
[12:00] <Killgore> hmmm maybe i can do it from the recovery console
[12:01] <morefiend> why do you want to change the drive letter rather device in linux?
[12:01] <bluey> bliss1_: interesting, you only have one partition
[12:02] <Killgore> can i give it a new letter? because i need to change it to D: or something because it cant be C:
[12:02] <bliss1_> bluey: I thought ubuntu makes one by default
[12:02] <morefiend> yeah, you can make it D in windows but why do you need to change it in linux?
[12:02] <Killgore> i dont
[12:02] <Killgore> but could i?
[12:02] <morefiend> ok then
[12:02] <morefiend> I don't think so
[12:02] <bluey> bliss1_: ubuntu should create a swap and root partition
[12:03] <morefiend> linux does it based on the device location on the IDE bus
[12:03] <morefiend> or scsi bus for that matter
[12:03] <morefiend> you can change the mount point but I don't think you can change the device
[12:03] <bluey> bliss1_: use cfdisk and see if you have any free space
[12:03] <Killgore> morefiend: yeah i know so i guess i can use linux
[12:03] <bliss1_> bluey: no root partition strange?
[12:03] <Killgore> LVM
[12:03] <Killgore> would have been set up
[12:03] <bluey> bliss1_: ye that one you have is the root
[12:04] <bliss1_> bluey: whats the command for cfdisk just cfdisk /dev/hda
[12:05] <bluey> bliss1_: sudo cfdisk /dev/hda
[12:05] <morefiend> bliss1_ just so you know, you might not want to do that while the drive is mounted
[12:05] <morefiend> I would use a boot disk
[12:05] <sandra> Does anybody know how is the device mapper module called ?
[12:05] <cloakable> I've made a private APT repository using an Ubuntu iso (I have no internet at home), and I'm wondering what stuff on the image I don't need for a working repository, and how to add new packages.
[12:06] <ic56> morefiend is correct: you cannot change the device.  If we were talking about separate disks, you could swap cables.  But I think Killgore is dealing with partitions of a single disk.
[12:06] <bluey> hes only looking to see if there is any space, and it's fine to work on it if hes no using a mounted partition
[12:06] <morefiend> ok yeah
[12:06] <bliss1_> morefriend; I can look at gparted and see what free space I have
[12:06] <bluey> cfdisk should tell you if you have any unpartitioned pace
[12:06] <bluey> space*
[12:07] <morefiend> some BIOS's let you swap the IDE channels and master/slave too
[12:07] <morefiend> which would in turn change the device
[12:07] <Killgore> gah
[12:07] <Killgore> this is crap
[12:07] <thebrasse> Hello! Can someone tell me why me BIOS clock not has the same time as my system clock (the system clock is +2h)? I'm guessing there is a setting somewhere controling this, but I can't find it. Meybe someone here can point me in the right direction?
[12:07] <morefiend> killgore: did windows boot up?
[12:07] <Killgore> i need a windows-live cd
[12:07] <Killgore> no it cant
[12:08] <morefiend> why can't it?
[12:08] <Killgore> because it creates a partition called D: where it installs itself to
[12:08] <Killgore> but it calls my data partition C: and tries to boot from that
[12:08] <morefiend> whenever I've tried dual booting I install windows first.
[12:08] <Killgore> if i could then i woudl
[12:08] <morefiend> most linux installers seem to be smarter about dealing with an existing windows install that the other way around
[12:09] <ic56> thebrasse: when you say your system clock is off, do you mean the output of the date command, without arguments, or do you mean the actual system clock, in GMT?
[12:09] <Killgore> morefiend: yer i give up on this
[12:09] <Killgore> morefiend: it seems unsolvable, just a big loop of me doing the same thing over and over again
[12:10] <thebrasse> ic56: oh... I mean the date command without arguments... I would like to have the BIOS clock in my local time zone...
[12:10] <Killgore> ill just install ubuntu it will be more fun that way
[12:10] <bluey> killgore: whats the problem?
[12:10] <Killgore> you have to set the BIOS manually
[12:10] <morefiend> what exactly are you trying to do?
[12:10] <Killgore> bluey: can you see my earlier
[12:10] <Killgore> messages
[12:11] <sandra> how do I downgrade a package to the last installed version ?
[12:11] <josh_ki> hey
[12:11] <abnoy> sige makalayas na nga
[12:11] <josh_ki> i have to recompile my kernel
[12:11] <ic56> thebrasse: what timezone are you in?
[12:11] <morefiend> install windows on an empty partition of a linux install?
[12:11] <josh_ki> and have starndard installation
[12:11] <Killgore> morefiend: i just want windows installed
[12:11] <bart-19> vaya mierda de chat
[12:11] <josh_ki> what packages i have to download to can compile kernel?
[12:11] <thebrasse> ic56: GMT+1, Sweden
[12:11] <morefiend> and don't wanna wipe out a linux install or are you doing a fresh install, wipe all disks
[12:11] <bluey> killgore: it's usually best to install windows first, then install other os's
[12:12] <bluey> killgore: windows likes to overwrite the mbr
[12:12] <Killgore> bluey, morefiend: thanks for the offers of help but i dont think i will ever get windows on this hd until i wipe it
[12:12] <Killgore> which is not going to happen
[12:12] <morefiend> ehh, ur' drive is better off
[12:12] <sandra> Can anybody tell me the output of ls /etc/rc.*/*crypt* ?
[12:12] <pinpoint> Killgore: get a boot disk with fdisk
[12:13] <pinpoint> > fdisk /mbr
[12:13] <pinpoint> to get windows back
[12:13] <morefiend> windows isn't installed is it?
[12:13] <bliss1_> bluey: gparted shows size 38154   used 5988  unused 32166
[12:13] <josh_ki> what packages i have to download to can compile kernel?
[12:13] <Sulle-> !whois morefiend
[12:13] <Killgore> pinpoint: ive tried that
[12:13] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Sulle-
[12:13] <Killgore> morefiend: no
[12:13] <Sulle-> lol :P
[12:14] <morefiend> then fdisk /mbr won't help
[12:14] <morefiend> Sulle: what do you mean who am I?
[12:14] <bluey> bliss1_ is the unused unpartitioned space?
[12:14] <ic56> thebrasse: that makes sense. GMT+1 +1 for daylight savings = 2 hours off.  Edit /etc/default/rcS and change `UTC=' to `no'.  You may have to reset your BIOS clock next time you boot, because the system clock will get written to it when you shutdown.
[12:14] <Sulle-> morefiend,  i am just trying to figure out why the /whois command doesnt work
[12:14] <Sulle-> :P
[12:14] <Killgore> its the channels settings isnt it?
[12:14] <morefiend> ok then
[12:15] <Sulle-> Killgore, i think so
[12:15] <bliss1_> bluey; no its not unallocated space its free space on dev/hda1
[12:15] <morefiend> no, my whois works
[12:15] <Sulle-> i am realy new to ubuntu server on mirc. so can annyone give me a tip on where i can "hang" i mean a good friendly channel and so on ?
[12:16] <bluey> bliss1_: ye, that means you need to resize your hda1 partition if you want a swap partition
[12:16] <bluey> bliss1_: gparted can do that for you
[12:16] <thebrasse> ic56: Nice!
[12:16] <Killgore> morefiend: you might have to be registered
[12:16] <bliss1_> bluey: from a live cd
[12:16] <morefiend> I'm not
[12:16] <Sulle-> not me eather
[12:16] <bluey> bliss1_: ye, you need to do it from a livecd or bootdisk or someting
[12:17] <thebrasse> ic56: maybe you also know how to read to hardware clock from within linux?
[12:17] <bluey> bliss1_: you can't work on it when it's mounted
[12:17] <rob_p> sandra: What's up?  Problems with crypto-disks?
[12:17] <bliss1_> bluey: what size
[12:17] <Sulle-> annyone got a tip for a good channel. where it is alot of nice ppl and so on ?.
[12:17] <morefiend> Sulle-  that's hit or miss on IRC
[12:18] <sandra> rob_p: yes.
[12:18] <morefiend> you'll always find at least one asshole in every channel that think they're the god of computing
[12:18] <bluey> bliss1_: well, you will keep the start the same, you just need to modify the end size
[12:18] <ic56> thebrasse: man hwclock
[12:18] <bliss1_> bluey: is it twice the size of RAM
[12:18] <morefiend> you just have to ignore them
[12:18] <Jhair> the god of computing in #ubuntu !? uh?
[12:19] <Killgore> ubotu lol
[12:19] <ubotu> Killgore: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:19] <Sulle-> morefiend, hit or miss?, sry but i did not understand that one
[12:19] <Killgore> you are a god ubotu
[12:19] <rob_p> sandra: What's not working?
[12:19] <morefiend> actually I haven't come by any assheads in here in a while
[12:19] <Killgore> lol assheads?
[12:19] <morefiend> hit or miss is like saying anything can happen
[12:19] <bluey> bliss1_: 512mb is usually enough for swap
[12:19] <Jhair> morefiend: I think this channeln is lots friendlier than others where such assholes are rather common, like #debian
[12:20] <morefiend> like baseball you can hit or miss when batting
[12:20] <Sulle-> ok
[12:20] <sandra> rob_p: Devmapper is just not there, the error is Incompatible libdevmapper 1.01.03 (2005-06-13)(compat) and kernel driver.
[12:20] <bluey> bliss1_: but if you have alot of disk space you can use 1 gig
[12:20] <morefiend> jhair: I agree
[12:20] <Sulle-> but guys, do u know anny other good channels where ican hang ?
[12:20] <Sulle-> or what ?
[12:20] <morefiend> I don't know about Debian, but I've definatly seen my share in #bash
[12:20] <cYrExII> hi could anyone tell me how to install enlightenment and make it work at ubuntu?
[12:20] <rob_p> sandra: Did you install dm-crypt?
[12:20] <Killgore> Sulle-: where do you live
[12:20] <Sulle-> norwayu
[12:20] <bluey> bliss1_: gparted has a resize command you can use
[12:20] <Sulle-> norway
[12:21] <Killgore> Sulle-: i hang in ubuntu-au <- aussie chan, so maybe ubuntu-nw?
[12:21] <rasputni1> cYrExII: on breezy?
[12:21] <sandra> rob_p: it is installed. This worked for a year untill today.
[12:21] <Sulle-> * ubuntu.no :That channel doesn't exist
[12:21] <Sulle-> nope :)
[12:21] <Killgore> bl
[12:22] <rob_p> sandra: I see!  What have you done recently, that might have caused it?
[12:22] <Killgore> not sure where you would find that stuff out
[12:22] <Flogee> Hello. I am having GeForce6600GT graphics card.With what command coiuld I update the drivers (planet penguin racer doesn't work smoothjly :(((( )
[12:22] <Sulle-> but annyway, isnt there anny "comunity" or a place ppl just hang around and talk about "everything".
[12:22] <Killgore> yeah
[12:22] <kaning> has anyone gotten a built in sd card reader to work?
[12:22] <cYrExII> yes Raskall
[12:22] <Killgore>  #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:22] <bliss1_> bluey: ok thanks
[12:22] <cYrExII> yes rasputnil
[12:22] <sandra> rob_p: removed some things fron init and installed ubuntu-desktop.
[12:22] <morefiend> kaning: i've gotten the sd reader on my printer working ok
[12:23] <Killgore> oh no not printers
[12:23] <Killgore> mine wont work
[12:23] <kaning> i meant on a laptop
[12:23] <sandra> rob_p: I added those things, no change.
[12:23] <morefiend> killgore: printer or sd reader?
[12:23] <bluey> bliss1_: np. if you download the ubuntu live cd, you should beable to do it.
[12:23] <Killgore> printer
[12:23] <morefiend> kaning: nope not on a laptop
[12:23] <Killgore> its in the list too
[12:23] <kaning> i have a dell inspiron 6000 with a built in sdcard reader which i'm trying to get to work
[12:23] <rob_p> sandra: Do you sill have /etc/init.d/cryptdisks startup script?
[12:23] <morefiend> it may use the scsi bus though, that's what the ones on my printer use
[12:23] <bliss1_> bluey: I have got the kubuntu lice cd
[12:24] <bliss1_> live
[12:24] <morefiend> killgore: what printer?
[12:24] <kaning> i came across this link i thought it would be of interest to anyone
[12:24] <kaning> http://www.math.ucla.edu/~jimc/insp6000/p-proc.html
[12:24] <bluey> bliss1_: that should do it then :), if you have any problems just ask
[12:24] <Killgore> cannon BJC-200SP
[12:24] <Killgore> i think
[12:24] <atsi> hi
[12:24] <kaning> but i still can't get my head around it
[12:24] <bliss1_> bluey: I will go and do it now thanks
[12:24] <Sulle-> damn, i am soo bored at work at the moment. what can i do ?
[12:24] <bluey> bliss1_: k
[12:24] <morefiend> ur' using cups I imagine
[12:25] <Killgore> did you join offtopic
[12:25] <Sulle-> <-- ?
[12:25] <Bambino> I opened xorg.conf in vim. I edited a part. How do I save?
[12:25] <Sulle-> i did.
[12:25] <Killgore> morefiend: no idea just used the add printer in ubuntu, but it didnt detect it
[12:25] <rasputnik> Bambino: ':wq'
[12:25] <morefiend> usb?
[12:25] <Killgore> Bambino: press esc to enter command mode then :wq!
[12:25] <Killgore> morefiend: no printer port
[12:25] <Sulle-> annyone got a idea for what i can do at the moment on my NEW linux machine?.. i am so bored at work that i think i will die.
[12:25] <morefiend> ooh, nevermind
[12:26] <morefiend> I hate LPT
[12:26] <Dolm> sweet!
[12:26] <rasputnik> Sulle-: learn a new programming language
[12:26] <Dolm> i got my gprs working
[12:26] <Killgore> morefiend: lol
[12:26] <Sulle-> hmmm, maybe not a bad idea. anny tips of anny good ones mr rasputnik ?
[12:26] <morefiend> Sulle-: I learned how to set up different kinds of servers when I started using Linux
[12:26] <Killgore> Sulle-:python
[12:26] <atsi> i would like to setup a local repository for a lan with no access to the net. some machines running sarge and other's ubuntu. i got access to a speedy mirror, but it is not connected to the LAN. is there any way to get all the files to setup the mirror, manually? if yes, then how can i check for updates on that mirror?
[12:26] <rasputnik> Sulle-: what do you know already?
[12:26] <sandra> rob_p: the error: http://paste.lisp.org/display/18726
[12:27] <Sulle-> just realy small c++
[12:27] <Dolm> all the junk i went through and a a very simple walththrough using bluez-utils and pppconfig did the trick
[12:27] <Sulle-> not alot just realy basic. i am kinda new in programing and linux.
[12:27] <rasputnik> Sulle-: shit. then anything would be a step up (even python haha)
[12:27] <morefiend> have any of you tried using Ubuntu on a SAN?
[12:27] <Sulle-> :P heehe yeah
[12:27] <rob_p> sandra: What about symlinks for that startup script, in rc0.d and rc6.d?
[12:27] <ic56> Sulle-  ls /usr/bin and read the manpages of commands that sounds interesting.  Great way to kill time yet be productive.  Alternately, Applications> Games> Gnometris :-)
[12:27] <rasputnik> Sulle-: ruby
[12:27] <Sulle-> but what is the best ?. why is it the best?. and so on .
[12:27] <Killgore> Sulle-: dont ask that
[12:27] <rasputnik> Sulle-: ruby. because I said. go and learn
[12:27] <morefiend> Sulle-: there really is no "best"
[12:28] <rasputnik> :)
[12:28] <Killgore> Sulle-: we dont want a flame war
[12:28] <Sulle-> ok
[12:28] <Sulle-> sry
[12:28] <Killgore> BTW Visual Basic FTW!!!!
[12:28] <morefiend> they all have their high and low points and each are suited for different jobs
[12:28] <sandra> rob_p: they are there, but symlinks won't solve the problem.
[12:28] <Jhair> Sulle-: there is no best language, some languages are very good at some things and very bad at other things, no language is perfect.
[12:28] <kaning> no help with the sd card reader?
[12:29] <rob_p> Do you have dm-crypt listed in /etc/modules?
[12:29] <rasputnik> Sulle-: if you're a system admin, try ruby or python (not perl it's a bit clanky).
[12:29] <Killgore> Sulle-: but its better to start on a basic language to learn the principles of good programming
[12:29] <Sulle-> ok, i am realy glad that you ppl take ur time to answer me. eaven its stupid questions.
[12:29] <morefiend> kaning: have you checked what devices are on the different buses
[12:29] <morefiend> in /proc or /sys
[12:30] <kaning> i did a lshal and greped sd
[12:30] <rasputnik> kaning: try a 'dmesg|tail -50' - see whether the kernel noticed anything
[12:30] <sandra> rob_p: as I expected, a mssing module was the problem (but I did't now its name): dm-med
[12:30] <kaning> ok
[12:30] <bluey> Sulle-: assembler/c/c++, all you will ever ned :)
[12:30] <rasputnik> bluey: lol
[12:30] <bluey> maybe a little bash as well :P
[12:31] <jmp_me> assembler
[12:31] <jmp_me> nothing else
[12:31] <jmp_me> he he he
[12:31] <rob_p> sandra: Yeah, I was going to ask next about dm-mod.
[12:31] <Killgore> lol
[12:31] <Killgore> what about internet code
[12:31] <kaning> no not finding it
[12:31] <ic56> bluey: *everything* can be done in awk.  Even assembly generation. :-)
[12:31] <kaning> i guess i'll have to wait for the next kernel then
[12:31] <bluey> ic56: :)
[12:31] <Sulle-> Killgore, what do u mean about internet code?
[12:31] <morefiend> is there a SD module that needs to be loaded?
[12:31] <jmp_me> realtime binary programming
[12:31] <jmp_me> he he he
[12:32] <Killgore> oh quick the next part is 0001
[12:32] <raboof> hi. i'm trying to find the device id for my eth0 card. lspci: http://papernapkin.org/pastebin/app/view/249 those dont sound like ethernet cards do they?
[12:32] <Killgore> Sulle-: no i meant languages that are commonly used for internet application
[12:32] <morefiend> I have a sd_mod loaded but I'm not sure if thats the SD you're looking for
[12:32] <raboof> it works with the bmac driver
[12:32] <Sulle-> ok
[12:32] <void^> sd_mod is scsi device
[12:33] <Sulle-> but brb, gonna read some of that python tutorial
[12:33] <Sulle-> :=)
[12:33] <morefiend> which is what the SD reader is seen as
[12:33] <bluey> killgore: glibc is fine for doing sockets
[12:33] <rob_p> sandra:  So ya got it figured out then?  Hope so anyway. :-)
[12:33] <damotor> hi
[12:33] <rasputnik> bluey: now you are just scaring people
[12:33] <Killgore> AHHH!
[12:33] <raboof> where else could i look?
[12:34] <sandra> rob_p: yes, I still has some clean up to do.
[12:34] <rasputnik> raboof: is that really all you have from lspci? it's very short.
[12:34] <damotor> do u know how can I delay a task in planner because the worker is busy at some moment?
[12:35] <sandra> rob_p: thank you for your help!
[12:35] <Killgore> hey
[12:35] <Killgore> alsa doesnt give me very good bass on my songs
[12:35] <morefiend> no one has any SAN experience?
[12:35] <morefiend> killgore, have you adjusted the levels?
[12:35] <raboof> rasputnik: jep (old powermac g3)
[12:35] <bluey> killgore: thats probably your speakers
[12:36] <Killgore> can i get proper creative drivers? windows had awesome bass w/my senheisser headphones
[12:36] <Killgore> morefiend: adjusting the bass level does nothign
[12:36] <sandra> any ideas how to restore /etc/rc?.d/ to default ?
[12:36] <morefiend> I have a creative 4.1 that sounds pretty damn good on my SB Live 5.1
[12:36] <bluey> killgore: i use a audigy 2 zs with emu10k and it works fine
[12:36] <rasputnik> raboof: ah, don't know much about mac hardware sorry
[12:37] <Killgore> morefiend: same card
[12:37] <damotor> Killgore  maybe there are some levels low in alsamixer
[12:37] <morefiend> yeah emu10k works fine for me too
[12:37] <Killgore> morefiend: there are a lot of things in that :(
[12:37] <morefiend> a lot of things in what?
[12:37] <raboof> rasputnik: i don't know much about hardware period :), maybe there's some other bus i could look at?
[12:37] <Killgore> alsamixer
[12:38] <raboof> apart from pci?
[12:38] <morefiend> oh, I didn't say that, but yeah there are
[12:38] <Killgore> yeah i know sry
[12:38] <morefiend> master, wave and pcm bass and trable are all I use
[12:39] <Nolt> Hey guys did u use CMS ?
[12:39] <ic56> raboof: device id for ethernet: dmesg |grep eth
[12:39] <bluey> killgore: applications->sound and video->volume control. that should allow you to ajust all your mixer levels
[12:39] <Frogzoo> damotor: just link from another task that finishes when the worker will be available
[12:40] <raboof> ic56: that just gives me driver used and mac address it seems
[12:40] <Killgore> bluey: hmm well ill try that but im pretty sure there is no noticeabl difference. in windows adjusting by %5 would give me a huge boost
[12:40] <bluey> killgore: if you have onboard sound as well as a pci sound card, then you might have to change device - file->change device in the volume control
[12:40] <morefiend> you have to enable tone adjustments in alsa too
[12:40] <damotor> Frogzoo that's what I did, but I was looking for an alternative to this, because then appear a flag from one task to another when they're not really linked
[12:40] <ic56> raboof: the first line on mine looks like this:  id: 0xa4  io: 0x210 eth0: Intel EtherExpress Pro/10+ ISA
[12:41] <Killgore> bluey: i made sure i disabled it before i installed ubuntu
[12:41] <ic56> raboof: the id is 0xa4
[12:41] <bluey> killgore: k
[12:41] <Flogee> !ntfs
[12:41] <ubotu> I guess ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[12:41] <raboof> I don't have that... just "[  518.240573]  eth0: BMAC+ at 00:50:e4:9e:3c:0c"
[12:41] <morefiend> killgore: what window manager do you use?
[12:41] <Frogzoo> damotor: they are if you think about it
[12:42] <raboof> (trying to respond to https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/35398)
[12:42] <damotor> Frogzoo yes, but not in the way you must end task1 to start task2, anyway, I believe it'll do the trick, thx
[12:43] <morefiend> can the MS Intellemouse Explorer's 2 side buttons and wheel tilt be used in X.Org
[12:43] <Killgore> morefiend: im installing ubuntu now. Just going on past experience
[12:43] <ic56> sandra: I don't think there's a simple way to restore rc?.d  It's part of the base install.  Theoretically, you might find the right package and extract the file manually.  If you find out which package, please let me know...
[12:43] <morefiend> ubuntu is the distro, Gnome or KDE are window managers
[12:43] <Killgore> is it bad to have the swap partition at the very end of the drive? ubuntus partitioner says that swap is partition #3
[12:43] <Jhair> morefiend: Gnome and KDE are not exactly windows managers but desktop environments :)
[12:44] <morefiend> very true
[12:44] <Killgore> also shoudl it be primary or logical
[12:44] <morefiend> sorry
[12:44] <bluey> morefiend: actually gnome uses metacity as the window manager
[12:44] <liable> how can i archive copy /etc over rsync without being root? and then back again. i remember trying this, but iirc being root was the only real way to do it.
[12:44] <morefiend> yes yes, I know, I meant desktop environment
[12:44] <bluey> :)
[12:45] <ic56> raboof: my mistake.  I was looking at dmesg output from Debian.  Hmmm, now how do you get that info in Ubuntu?
[12:45] <morefiend> Killgore: I'm not too sure about that one.  I've wondered that myself
[12:45] <Killgore> morefiend: it seems ineficiant to go to the end of the drive over and over again
[12:46] <bluey> ic56: dmesg also works in ubuntu
[12:46] <Killgore> morefiend: considering ubuntu is at the start
[12:46] <morefiend> _if_ swap is going to be use frequently
[12:46] <Killgore> will putting swap as logical put it after the primary drive it is related to?
[12:46] <morefiend> if not it may make sense to put it at the end and save the beginning for the important stuff
[12:46] <Killgore> morefiend: hmm yeah
[12:47] <ubuntu> bluey: hi
[12:47] <Tuninho> #amule
[12:47] <morefiend> Killgore: I think it will put it after the primary
[12:47] <thoreauputic> Killgore: where you put swap won't make a lot of difference on a modern drive
[12:47] <bluey> ubuntu: hi
[12:47] <dt-oz-gc> Hi all. Running Breezy on a laptop. Why does it autodial the internet when I start the laptop? I have removed S14ppp from /etc/rd2.d.
[12:47] <ic56> Killgore: best to put things accessed often in the middle of the drive so the average seek time is lower.  swap needs to be accessed very fast or things get real slow so you want it right in the centre of the drive.
[12:47] <morefiend> I miss haveing SCSI drives in my desktop
[12:47] <Hexidigital> is there a command for updating the gnome desktop from gnome 2.12 to 2.14?
[12:47] <thoreauputic> ic56: se my commnet above :)
[12:47] <thoreauputic> *comment
[12:48] <Flogee> Hello. So... I have NTFS partitions and I want to mount them. They are being mounted every time I log in (there are shortcuts to HDB1 etc. on the desktop) but why I try to open them it says that i have no permissions. When I sudo nautilus, it can access them. How can I make it so that I wont need to give nautilus root rights every time I read the partitions?
[12:48] <thoreauputic> !mountwindows
[12:48] <ubotu> Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter to make your windows or mac partitions mount automatically.  If you wish to set it up yourself by hand, read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[12:48] <ubuntu> bluey: I tried to resize useing live cd which i am in now useing gparted gui but got an error saying error resizing /dev/hda1
[12:49] <bluey> bluey: hmm, what error?
[12:49] <Jhair> Flogee: probably the partition is not mounted with the right permissions. What does the line in /etc/fstab for that partition say?
[12:49] <bluey> ubuntu: hmm, what error?
[12:49] <Killgore> Flogee: you can change the permissions for the drive with uid=username (flogee for example)
[12:50] <Killgore> Flogee: in fstab
[12:50] <Flogee> okay, thanks
[12:50] <Killgore> i learnt that the hard way
[12:50] <bluey> ubuntu: the partition isn't mounted is it?
[12:50] <bluey> ubuntu: df -Tlh
[12:51] <Flogee> Killgore, where in the fstab file am I meant to put that uid
[12:51] <ubuntu> bluey: it just just said error resizig hda 1  not mounted I could use command line  if you tell me the command
[12:51] <morefiend> is there any clustering software that works well with ubuntu?
[12:51] <Flogee> in options?
[12:51] <morefiend> high availability clustering that is
[12:51] <Killgore> Flogee: yeah, where all the rw, noauto the options
[12:52] <Flogee> lines are like "dev/sdb5       /media/sdb5     ntfs    defaults        0       0"
[12:52] <Killgore> ok
[12:52] <bluey> ubuntu: ok, open a terminal, and use gparted on the command line
[12:52] <Killgore> Flogee: see where it says defaults? put in rw,uid=flogee
[12:52] <Killgore> no
[12:52] <Killgore> shit
[12:52] <Killgore> Flogee: see where it says defaults? put in ro,uid=flogee
[12:52] <Flogee> okay, thanks
[12:52] <ubuntu> bluey shall i pate it pate bin
[12:52] <Killgore> whew
[12:52] <Flogee> ill try that
[12:53] <Killgore> dont ever use rw
[12:53] <Killgore> unless its dapper
[12:53] <morefiend> ?
[12:53] <bluey> ubuntu: were you running gparted as root?
[12:54] <ubuntu> bluey: i am useing gui
[12:54] <bluey> ubuntu: ok, is there a lock icon next to the partition?
[12:54] <Bambino> how do i exit VIM wihtout saving? I accidently did loads of mistaces in xorg.conf :)
[12:55] <osfameron> Bambino:  :q!
[12:55] <Jhair> Flogee: in linux when mounting nfs the file permissions are owned by root nad not readable per default, try use the uid=value, gid=value, umask=value with the pertinent values.
[12:55] <Killgore> Bambino: esc then :q!
[12:55] <Jhair> Flogee: you can find more details in the fstab and mount man pages
[12:55] <Flogee> okay. I tried the uid, ill boot to see if it helped
[12:55] <ubuntu> bluey: no
[12:55] <Bambino> With the '!' ?
[12:55] <Jhair> Flogee: I meant ntfs
[12:55] <Killgore> he didnt need to reboot
[12:55] <osfameron> Killgore: hehe
[12:55] <Killgore> Bambino: yeah
[12:56] <Jhair> flodine: no reboot needed you only need to remount
[12:56] <Jhair> agggh
[12:56] <Killgore> why do they quit before you tell them the important stuff
[12:56] <bluey> ubuntu: hmm, i'm sure, you should beable to resize it
[12:56] <Killgore> Bambino: the ! forces it to do whatever you told it
[12:56] <Killgore> Jhair: i just realised that mIRC sucks :P
[12:56] <Bambino> ok thakns
[12:56] <Jhair> Killgore: it is a tick, probably he use Windows a lot and wants to reboot to fix his problems faster ;)
[12:57] <Killgore> Jhair: yeah
[12:57] <ubuntu> bluey: if there was an error where would it be loged dmesg | tail
[12:57] <osfameron> Jhair: I still have problems I have to reboot my laptop for with ubuntu :-(
[12:57] <morefiend> damn I'm bored
[12:57] <Killgore> Jhair: i hate having to close documents to send them to people. But not with unix :P
[12:57] <Hexidigital> morefiend, want some coffee?
[12:57] <Hexidigital> :)
[12:57] <morefiend> sure do
[12:57] <Killgore> !beer
[12:57] <ubotu> Killgore: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:58] <bluey> ubuntu: easier to talk in pm
[12:58] <Killgore> how do use use beer?
[12:58] <Killgore> !beer morefiend
[12:58] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Killgore
[12:58] <Hexidigital> Killgore, ! spam commands were disabled in this chat, i think
[12:58] <ubuntu> bluey: pm ok you start it
[12:58] <morefiend> eh fuck it, morphine coffee same difference
[12:59] <Killgore> ;(
[12:59] <bluey> ubuntu: i did
[12:59] <Killgore> lol
[12:59] <Hexidigital> hehe
[12:59] <Killgore> morefiend: just pop some X ull be right
[12:59] <Hexidigital> morefiend, you know how to change splash images?
[12:59] <ubuntu> bluey: how to read it
[12:59] <morefiend> not in ubuntu
[12:59] <Cicero_> hi all
[12:59] <Killgore> does anyone know how to change the awful brown background to the splash image?
[12:59] <Hexidigital> ah... tyaw
[12:59] <bluey> ubuntu: what irc client are you using?
[01:00] <Killgore> Hexidigital: there is a program you can get
[01:00] <Hexidigital> killgore, usplash?
[01:00] <ubuntu> bluey: x-chat
[01:00] <Killgore> Hexidigital: i had it at one point no thats not it
[01:00] <morefiend> I think it's in the initrd.img but I could be wrong
[01:00] <Killgore> Hexidigital: they were like gnome extensions
[01:00] <bluey> ubuntu: hold on
[01:00] <Hexidigital> i've been trying for weeks to get this MacOSX splash to work... no luck so far... i have usplash installed, but it isn't any help
[01:01] <Hexidigital> Killgore, where did you get the package?
[01:01] <morefiend> do any of you write bash scripts?
[01:01] <Jhair> sometimes...
[01:01] <morefiend> I wrote my first script and I want opinions on it
[01:01] <rob_p> morefiend: Yeah.
[01:01] <Killgore> Hexidigital: it was off apt but i cant remember what it was called unfortunately
[01:01] <Hexidigital> :(   thanks anyway
[01:01] <morefiend> http://pastebin.com/645638
[01:01] <Jhair> just pastebin it
[01:02] <Jhair> morefiend: shebang is missing :)
[01:02] <cion> hey all How do i get my mic running?
[01:02] <Jhair> morefiend: #!/bin/sh
[01:02] <morefiend> it's in the actual script
[01:02] <morefiend> I cut out the GPL part for pastebin
[01:03] <blueyss> ubuntu: i keep messging you but you don't answer
[01:03] <apokryphos> blueyss: I don't think you can /msg on Freenode still if you're not registered.
[01:03] <ubertt> hi
[01:03] <ubuntu> blueyss thats because I do not how to where is your pm
[01:03] <morefiend> cion: try plugging it in?
[01:04] <blueyss> ubuntu: it should open up a tab at the bottom
[01:04] <ubertt> how can i upgrade my breezzy to dapper?
[01:04] <cion> morefriend: thx for the insult
[01:04] <patrick52222>  but do i activate tvout on ubuntu, ihave a nvidia graphic card
[01:04] <morefiend> cion: it was a joke relax
[01:04] <ubuntu> blueyness no it has not
[01:05] <morefiend> cion: is your volume level turned up, mic on and enabled in alsamixer?
[01:05] <cion> yeah
[01:05] <morefiend> it's not mutted
[01:05] <morefiend> muted rather
[01:05] <cion> nope
[01:05] <morefiend> what card?
[01:05] <bimberi> !tell ubertt about upgrade
[01:05] <morefiend> and it's a minijack mic right
[01:06] <cion> SIS SI7012 recognised
[01:06] <cion> yeah
[01:06] <ubuntu> x-chat 2. 4.4  ubuntu@herbert.freenode.net/#ubuntu(+tncl)
[01:06] <cion> normal little mic jack
[01:06] <morefiend> ur' sure it's in the right plug
[01:06] <patrick52222>  but do i activate tvout on ubuntu, i have a nvidia fx6600
[01:06] <ubertt> thx bimberi
[01:06] <bimberi> ubertt: yw :)
[01:06] <morefiend> does sound work
[01:06] <Killgore> hey ive heard of linux switching the plug assignments around
[01:07] <morefiend> damn penguins
[01:07] <ubuntu> blueyness ok its open
[01:07] <Killgore> someone had that problem, sound coming out of line-in
[01:07] <Flogee> Hello. The partitions work now. Anyways, I am having problems with restricted formats. "E: Couldn't find package flashplayer-mozilla" the same problem seems to happen with all multiverse packages tho I added the reposotories from the list
[01:07] <cion> yes sound is ok
[01:07] <bluey> ubuntu: you need to change your nick and register it
[01:07] <morefiend> hmm
[01:07] <Killgore> Flogee: good to hear. Did you type them in right?
[01:07] <Bambino> I feel that Ubuntu does not want me. This is what I feel. I am sorry to say :(
[01:07] <morefiend> I just plugged my mic in and started yelling....worked fine
[01:07] <Killgore> Flogee: or are you using synaptic
[01:08] <Hexidigital> killgore, does gnome-splashscreen-editor sound familiar?
[01:08] <Flogee> Killgore, the apt get commands? IO copypasted them from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?highlight=%28restrictedformats%29
[01:08] <cion> what sound device u use ALSA?
[01:08] <morefiend> yep
[01:08] <Killgore> Hexidigital: no. You might as well try it tho
[01:08] <morefiend> is it set as a recording device in alsamixer?
[01:08] <Flogee> Actually, I don't even see multiverse in the reposotories list (i did check the box to show all)
[01:08] <cion> where do i see that?
[01:08] <Hexidigital> killgore.... i tried... i looked in the synaptic repositories... i'll give it a shot anyway
[01:08] <patrick52222>  but do i activate tvout on ubuntu, i have a nvidia fx6600
[01:09] <ubuntu> blueys : where and how
[01:09] <shrewduser> hey, how do i configure ALSA?
[01:09] <jaime> hi?
[01:09] <jaime> someone speakin spanish?
[01:09] <morefiend> I don't remember
[01:09] <Killgore> Flogee: better off editing your /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:10] <Flogee> Killgore, okay. What line should I edit/add to get multiverse
[01:10] <ubuntu> bluey: where and how
[01:10] <shrewduser> anyone? i can't seem to find how i configure my sound system (alsa)
[01:10] <blueyss> ubuntu: /msg nickserv register <password>
[01:10] <jaime> someone speakin spanish?
[01:10] <thoreauputic> !es
[01:10] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:11] <blueyss> ubuntu: to change nick - /nick <newnick>
[01:11] <Killgore> Flogee: simple sudo nano (or whatever editor you wnat) /etc/apt/sources.list. at the top will be a line that is commented (ie # at the start) remove those 2 #
[01:11] <jaime> j- #ubuntu-es
[01:11] <jaime> how do I join another channel?
[01:11] <Killgore> Flogee: it will have something like deb http:/multiverse....
[01:11] <morefiend>    / join #channel
[01:11] <jaime> ok
[01:11] <jaime> thanks
[01:11] <morefiend> no space after the /
[01:12] <thoreauputic> jaime:  /j #ubuntu-es
[01:12] <thoreauputic> ..or /join
[01:12] <Killgore> or /j
[01:12] <jaime> thanks
[01:12] <Killgore> oh wait
[01:12] <Killgore> lol
[01:12] <jaime> see U
[01:12] <thoreauputic> Killgore: hehehe :)
[01:12] <Killgore> read first before you jump into things
[01:13] <Flogee> Killgore, " deb http://fi.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse" (and the another line for sources) is only line containing multiverse in my list
[01:13] <Flogee> in whole file I meant
[01:13] <Flogee> is it the right one
[01:13] <thoreauputic> Flogee: no - add the word multiverse on the end of your universe lines
[01:14] <Flogee> like " deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security universe" -> " deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security universe multiverse"
[01:14] <Flogee> ?
[01:14] <thoreauputic> Flogee: for example
[01:14] <thoreauputic>  deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe multiverse
[01:14] <Flogee> okay, thanks
[01:15] <Killgore> yay
[01:15] <shrewduser> anyone know where ubuntu keeps the alsa/sound controls? configurators? etc?
[01:15] <Killgore> i have ubuntu
[01:15] <apokryphos> shrewduser: alsamixer in terminal
[01:15] <shrewduser> ta
[01:16] <Killgore> morefiend: remember my problem from before? well grub thinks that windows is installed
[01:16] <morefiend> then there's an entry for it in menu.lst
[01:16] <morefiend> was there a windows partition when you install ubuntu?
[01:17] <Killgore> morefiend: yeah theres an entry. Lol no i removed it eheheh
[01:17] <Flogee> thanks, thoreauputic and Killgore, multiverse packages seem to be there now
[01:18] <Killgore> morefiend: i pretty much ruined everything, but it still manages to work
[01:18] <morefiend> are you gonna install windows?
[01:18] <Killgore> morefiend: cbf now
[01:18] <thoreauputic> Flogee: :) yw
[01:18] <morefiend> ?
[01:18] <r4343> blueys  got new nick
[01:18] <Killgore> morefiend: im gonna mess around with stuff ive never done before (couldnt be f*cked
[01:18] <morefiend> ehh, it won't be all bad
[01:19] <Killgore> morefiend: for example i need nvidia drivers, wine cedaga , oooh its gonna be fun
[01:19] <iopt> hi
[01:19] <morefiend> I can't count how many things I mucked up when learning linux
[01:19] <iopt> howto stop openssh
[01:19] <r4343> blueyss: got new nick
[01:19] <morefiend> iopt the server or client?
[01:19] <Killgore> sudo /etc/init.d/sshserver stop i think it is
[01:19] <blueyss> r4343: ye, i've been msging you, you can't hear?
[01:21] <blueyss> r4343: start your ssh server ill log into your machine and resize your partition
[01:21] <Killgore> lol
[01:21] <thoreauputic>  /etc/init.d/ssh stop  actually
[01:21] <Killgore> thoreauputic: ok i was close. I was relly only worried about the first part, make sure that was right
[01:22] <iopt> _RossH: stop: Name or service not known
[01:22] <blueyss> r4343: sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start
[01:22] <iopt> _RossH: stop: Name or service not known
[01:22] <blueyss> r4343: actually are you already root?
[01:22] <r4343> blueyss; can you here me  in thcreatede tab you
[01:22] <thoreauputic> iopt: the whole command
[01:22] <blueyss> r4343: nop :(
[01:23] <iopt> how?
[01:23] <iopt> path u mean
[01:23] <r4343> blueyss I am in live cd still
[01:23] <blueyss> r4343: must be something stupid with freenode
[01:23] <Killgore> you cant pm unless you are registered
[01:23] <thoreauputic> iopt: you *do* have the openssh-server installed, right?
[01:23] <blueyss> r4343: open up a terminal, are you root ?
[01:23] <gnomefreak> blueyss: is registered and identified but i dont think r4343 is
[01:23] <Killgore> its ubuntu
[01:24] <blueyss> i'm registered
[01:24] <Killgore> ubuntu@ubuntu on the live-cd
[01:24] <blueyss> still can't pm though
[01:24] <gnomefreak> blueyss: i know thats what i just said
[01:24] <Killgore> and i belive ubuntu is the root user
[01:24] <Killgore> but sudo works without a password
[01:24] <blueyss> oh well, nevermind
[01:24] <r4343> blueyss I will install openshh I am in live cd ok
[01:25] <Hexidigital> su in terminal will make you root
[01:25] <blueyss> r4343: ssh should already be installed
[01:25] <iopt> it worked
[01:25] <fek> moin
[01:25] <blueyss> r4343: you just need to start the service - /etc/init.d/ssh start
[01:25] <iopt> using the whole path /etc/init.d/ssh stop .. worked
[01:25] <gnomefreak> sudo -i will make you root and is perferred   su has a tendency of mucking things up in ubuntu
[01:26] <r4343> blueyss ok just a sec
[01:26] <Hexidigital> <--- mucks things up on a regular basis
[01:26] <blueyss> k
[01:26] <thoreauputic> blueyss: AFAIK the live CD only has the client
[01:26] <iopt> now I have another qs , how can i disconnect someone  logged into my box remotely using ssh
[01:26] <gnomefreak> iopt: kill the ssh connection
[01:26] <blueyss> well in that case, he will need to do - sudo passwd root
[01:26] <iopt> how?
[01:27] <iopt> I want to kill only one user
[01:27] <Killgore> you can just use sudo
[01:27] <Killgore> it works fine
[01:27] <Killgore> well it did for me
[01:27] <gnomefreak> iopt: how many people are gonna be ssh'ed into your system?
[01:27] <iopt> 2
[01:27] <blueyss> thoreauputic: sudo passwd root, will work on the livecd right?
[01:27] <iopt> i wana kill one of them
[01:28] <thoreauputic> blueyss: completely pointless - sudo doesn't need a password on the live CD
[01:28] <morefiend> hey do any of you know anything about Proxim access points?
[01:28] <blueyss> thoreauputic: ye, but if i want to ssh in as root
[01:28] <Killgore> yeah my point for the last 5 mins thoreauputic
[01:28] <gnomefreak> iopt: i dont know how to just kill one user and not all
[01:28] <iopt> ok gnomefreak thanx for help
[01:28] <thoreauputic> blueyss: you should not ssh as root - you login then use sudo
[01:29] <blueyss> thoreauputic: i don't see why not, ill need to do root operations
[01:30] <Storkme> is there any way to view my emails from the command line?
[01:30] <blueyss> storkeme: mutt
[01:30] <thoreauputic> blueyss: *shrug* I'm just telling you the wisdom from 35 years of UNIX history - feel free to do as you wish
[01:30] <Killgore> ZOMG IVE NEVER SEEN UBUNTU BOOT THAT FAST
[01:31] <blueyss> thoreauputic: k
[01:31] <r4343> blueyss: up and running
[01:31] <ketti> hi there
[01:31] <ketti> i've got a problem with kubuntu here
[01:31] <ketti> i using the LIVE CD and the OS dont get my HDD
[01:31] <blueyss> r4343: ok, do sudo passwd
[01:31] <ketti> its jumpert to slave, i can see it @ the device manager, but not at my file system
[01:32] <ketti> can u tell me how to hang it in ?
[01:32] <blueyss> r4343: then type in something simple like cat
[01:32] <morefiend> ketti: is it mounted
[01:32] <ketti> @morefriend, how to mount !?
[01:33] <morefiend> mount -t <fs> /dev/hd?? /mount/mountpoint
[01:33] <ketti> @ Linux Knoppix i simply clicked right and set the HD to MOUNT, dunno how to mount in ubuntu
[01:33] <r4343> blueyss rex11
[01:33] <ketti> have to copy that i my terminal ?
[01:33] <blueyss> r4343: k
[01:34] <blueyss> r4343: whats your ip?
[01:34] <morefiend> or have an entry in fstab
[01:34] <ketti> the HD is my one and only hd
[01:34] <morefiend> /dev/hda1?
[01:34] <ketti> have i to type: mount -t <fs> /dev/hda1 /mount/mountpoint
[01:35] <morefiend> no no
[01:35] <morefiend> what filesystem is it?
[01:35] <ketti> NTFS
[01:35] <r4343> blueyss: I can give it you no prob but its just everybody here can you know
[01:35] <morefiend> ok, mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mount/hda
[01:35] <blueyss> r4343: ok, connect to rizon
[01:36] <thoreauputic> r4343: your IP is  88.96.109.78
[01:36] <morefiend> /dev/hda1 is the device and partition /mount/hda is where on the filesystem you want to see it
[01:36] <blueyss> r4343: irc.rizon.net, you can give me it there
[01:36] <thoreauputic> r4343: anyone can find it through the IRC client
[01:36] <ketti> only root can to that
[01:36] <morefiend> sudo
[01:36] <morefiend> or su
[01:36] <r4343> blueyss; its all yours
[01:37] <blueyss> k
[01:37] <morefiend> am I wrong or should you learn how to use the shell before you start depending on a GUI
[01:37] <ketti> mountpoint does not exist
[01:37] <morefiend> or am I just an asshole for thinking that?
[01:37] <morefiend> ketti: you have to have a dir created for the mountpoint
[01:37] <ketti> i simply want to backup my data from this HD yet
[01:37] <blueyss> r4343: ok good im in
[01:37] <ketti> after that, i install KUBUNTU as OS and then i read the manuals :P
[01:38] <morefiend> best of luck
[01:38] <morefiend> the key there is READ
[01:38] <r4343> blueynss; well I just get a cup of wisky
[01:38] <ketti> yey i know
[01:38] <ketti> but its important to backup my data NOW
[01:38] <morefiend> understandable
[01:38] <ketti> if i read yet the manuals, i can backup in 4 weeks :P
[01:39] <r4343> blueyss; good I am feeling a bit unwell
[01:39] <ketti> what does it mean, mount point /mount/hda does not exist?
[01:39] <blueyss> r4343: k
[01:39] <morefiend> I want to set up a wireless backhaul between 2 a/b/g access points using the a channel for the backhaul and b/g for client access
[01:39] <morefiend> is that possible?
[01:39] <thoreauputic> ketti: hda is the whole drive - you need for instabce hda1
[01:40] <r4343> blueyss; ok good felling better
[01:40] <thoreauputic> ketti: or whatever the name of the mount point is
[01:40] <Killgore> ketti: when we mount something, we mount the hard drive into a folder
[01:40] <Killgore> ketti: so we have to make that folder first
[01:40] <ketti> ah ok
[01:40] <morefiend> didn't I say that?
[01:40] <Killgore> ketti: sudo mkdir /media/hda
[01:40] <ketti> i have to create an HDA1 Folder in the DEV dir?
[01:40] <morefiend> NO
[01:41] <thoreauputic> Killgore: erm - we mount a volume or partition , not a whole drive
[01:41] <thoreauputic> Killgore: wrong
[01:41] <Killgore> thoreauputic: yeas i know that just putting it in laymans terms
[01:41] <morefiend> you create a folder called hda1 in /mount or /mnt or where ever you want to mount the drive
[01:41] <thoreauputic> Killgore: don't make a dir called /media/hda
[01:41] <Killgore> morefiend: yeas i agree that you should learn to use the terminal
[01:41] <thoreauputic> Killgore: it will be confusing later
[01:42] <Killgore> thoreauputic: tru tru,
[01:42] <blueyss> r4343: you have 32 gig spare on that partition
[01:42] <ketti> one moment ... be back sooon
[01:42] <morefiend> aww damn it, that whole explanation got interpreted as a damn command on irc
[01:42] <Killgore> morefiend: press up
[01:42] <r4343> blueyss; ok make a 1 or 2 gig swap
[01:42] <morefiend> @@  /dev is all your devices /dev/hda is primary master, /dev/hda1 is primary master's first partition
[01:42] <morefiend> haha
[01:43] <Killgore> pity he left :P
[01:43] <thoreauputic> Killgore: far better to use what is in fstab, or define mount points with names like "windows" or "linux" or whatever
[01:43] <Killgore> thoreauputic: yeah i agree, jumped in a little too fast
[01:43] <morefiend> could one get in trouble for broadcasting loud wifi
[01:44] <ENE|Toxic> I need some help, it seems I have a problem with my network card. It used to work just fine, but now it just hangs the computer unprovoked, keyboard, mouse, everything freezes. Is there a good log I should look at while trying to find out what's wrong? (using marvel yukon drivers, tried upgrading drivers but I get the same error).
[01:45] <thoreauputic> ;)
[01:45] <morefiend> aren't you gonna frisk me
[01:45] <morefiend> my buddy down the street wants to set up a small neighborhood WISP but I'm wondering the legality of it
[01:46] <thoreauputic> morefiend: Anything you say may be used in evidence
[01:46] <thoreauputic> ')
[01:46] <morefiend> I burn DVD's and make moonshine too
[01:46] <blueyss> (parted) p 1
[01:46] <blueyss> No Implementation: This ext2 filesystem has a rather strange layout!  Parted
[01:46] <blueyss> can't resize this (yet).
[01:47] <blueyss> looks like i'll have to resize the file system and partition manually
[01:47] <morefiend> and that has nothing to do with my DHS pornography and prostitution day job
[01:48] <ENE|Toxic> Is there a good log for networking problems ? It seems my card using marvell yukon drivers hangs the entire computer (must manually reboot). It used to work fine, so I tried upgrading drivers but experiencing the same problem.
[01:48] <thoreauputic> morefiend: ROFL :D
[01:48] <r4343> blueyss: ok take it a step at a time
[01:49] <morefiend> the main problem I'm having with it is the selling or sharing of our cable bandwidth.  I'm quite sure thats a TOS violation
[01:50] <morefiend> and I don't really wanna piss off any of the HAM guys around here by raising the noise floor a few db
[01:51] <Killgore> is it bad to have this as my soundcard
[01:51] <Killgore> SB LIVE [UNKNOWN}
[01:52] <morefiend> thats what comes up for mine too
[01:52] <Killgore> k
[01:52] <Killgore> well im going to change from windows to linux see you all again soon
[01:52] <Killgore> yay
[01:53] <pokales> give me please the link to unoficial tutorial of ubuntu !!!
[01:54] <pokales> that where are a lot if easy steps
[01:54] <morefiend> pokales: new to linux?
[01:54] <bushblowz> www.ubuntuguide.org
[01:55] <pokales> yes
[01:55] <pokales> :)
[01:55] <morefiend> www.tldp.org has a lot of good stuff
[01:55] <bushblowz> thats for 5.04 i think
[01:56] <pokales> thank's
[01:56] <pokales> all
[01:56] <morefiend> linux is a lot more involved than windows
[01:56] <bushblowz> yes it is
[01:56] <morefiend> learn the shell and how the filesystem is arranged
[01:56] <bushblowz> pokales you have alot to learn
[01:56] <IMTHEONE> sh: option: command not found
[01:56] <morefiend> man and info are your best friends forever
[01:56] <pokales> i know but i don't give up
[01:57] <morefiend> that's good
[01:57] <IMTHEONE> Kernel: 2.6.15.1-kanotix-3 Hostname: KanotixBox Uptime: 3 hgrep: /etc/lsb-release: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden
[01:57] <IMTHEONE> grep: /etc/lsb-release: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden
[01:57] <IMTHEONE> grep: /etc/lsb-release: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden
[01:57] <IMTHEONE>   Codename:  CPU: Mobile Pentium II Cache: 256 KB Bogomips: 664.53 Swap: 76 kB RAM: 185 Mb Graka: Neomagic Corporation NM2200 [MagicGraph 256AV]  (rev 20) X.Org version: 6.9.0 Treiber: Resolution: 1024x768 GLXINFO: Mesa GLX Indirect 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.4.1) NIC: Client: xchat
[01:57] <bushblowz> yes and pokales there is also a #ubuntu channel on irc.efnet.org
[01:57] <pokales> :) mauybe you guys help me :P
[01:57] <Killgore> ubuntu FTW!
[01:57] <morefiend> don't get dependant on a GUI right away
[01:57] <bushblowz> if you cant find help here
[01:58] <pokales> where is the page for easyubuntu ?
[01:58] <morefiend> you can break X real easy and if you don't know the shell then ur' screwed
[01:58] <gnomefreak> !easyubuntu
[01:58] <ubotu> easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu
[01:58] <ic56> ENE|Toxic: assuming your problem is indeed with the ethernet card, your best bet is /var/log/dmesg  and /var/log/kern.log
[01:58] <Tomcat_> morefiend: I have never broken my X and I hack around a lot. :)
[01:58] <pokales> gnomefreak thank's
[01:58] <gnomefreak> pokales: yw
[01:58] <Killgore> is easyubuntu on the repos?
[01:58] <morefiend> I broke it when switching to X.Org in Debian
[01:59] <gnomefreak> Killgore: no
[01:59] <Tomcat_> Well yes... but someone who doesn't know the console wouldn't be able to do that anyway. o_O
[01:59] <morefiend> it wasn't a big deal but if I hadn't know how to use the shell I'd have been reinstalling
[01:59] <ENE|Toxic> ic56: ok thanks. I'll take a look at it
[01:59] <morefiend> sure would, I broke it with synaptic
[01:59] <thoreauputic> bug 28429
[01:59] <Killgore> gnomefreak do i have to get source? or is it on unoficial repos
[01:59] <thoreauputic> hmm
[01:59] <pokales> i can't lohg as root
[01:59] <pokales> what is the default pass
[01:59] <thoreauputic> !root
[01:59] <blueyss> r4343: do you have anything you want to backup before i commit this?
[01:59] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[01:59] <pokales> i have ubuntu 5.10
[02:00] <gnomefreak> pokales: your user password adn use sudo not su
[02:00] <thoreauputic> !tell pokales about root
[02:00] <morefiend> I always run sudo pwd root right after I install
[02:00] <morefiend> that'll ask for a new password for root
[02:00] <thoreauputic> morefiend: wrong command
[02:00] <thoreauputic> sudo passwd root
[02:00] <morefiend> woops
[02:00] <thoreauputic> but it isn't needed
[02:00] <gnomefreak> ok who knows how to manully run a backtrace?
[02:01] <morefiend> HAHA, wow
[02:01] <thoreauputic> sudo -i for a root shell
[02:01] <r4343> blueyss; all files in home txt files and mail in bliss1 folder and config file for postfix
[02:01] <morefiend> I did not know that
[02:01] <morefiend> good shit
[02:02] <blueyss> r4343: ok, ill mount the drive for you, you can burn anything you want to backup before i commit it
[02:02] <r4343> blueyss; postfix master.cf
[02:02] <r4343> blueyss; not working
[02:02] <blueyss> /mnt/tmp now points to your real drive
[02:03] <r4343> blueyss; you can upload to my ftp site
[02:03] <blueyss> hmm
[02:03] <blueyss> you should beable to do it now
[02:03] <r4343> bluueyss the burner is not working properly
[02:03] <Killgore> haev u guys been doing all this via ssh?
[02:03] <blueyss> r4343: your drive is /mnt/tmp
[02:04] <blueyss> r4343: you can upload from /mnt/tmp
[02:04] <morefiend> ain't ssh great
[02:04] <r4343> blueyss ok
[02:04] <blueyss> r4343: if you run nautilus /mnt/tmp/home/ you should beable to access your users home directory
[02:07] <pokales> i try to install easy ubuntu but i have this error
[02:07] <pokales> sudo apt-get install subversion
[02:07] <pokales> Package subversion is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[02:07] <pokales> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[02:07] <pokales> is only available from another source
[02:07] <pokales> E: Package subversion has no installation candidate
[02:09] <gnomefreak> pokales: please dont paste in here use pastebin to paste
[02:09] <blueyss> r4343: you should beable to see what i'm doing if you run screen 0
[02:09] <gnomefreak> !info subversion
[02:09] <ubotu> subversion: (advanced version control system (aka. svn)), section devel, is optional. Version: 1.2.0-1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1255 kB, Installed size: 4728 kB
[02:10] <conmiweb> hi
[02:10] <gnomefreak> pokales: its in the main repos as long as your using them not the cdrom repo you should beable to grab it
[02:10] <pokales> done
[02:11] <Killgore> pokales: ill beat u to running it :P
[02:11] <pokales> :)
[02:11] <martyn> hey guys just wanted to know would i be better running the32bit edt on my amd 64 . because tryint to get stuff to fork for the 64 bit edi is getting hard
[02:12] <saloxin> why isn't .bash_profile sourced by default?
[02:12] <Gosha> how do install wine using the dpkg command?
[02:12] <r4343> blueyss screen 0?
[02:12] <wty> dpkg -i package name
[02:13] <Gosha> ... wher should it be?
[02:13] <etienner> BenC, are you here?
[02:13] <blueyss> r4343: ye, it should let you see what i'm doing, if you run that in a terminal
[02:13] <Killgore> hey if i get all my .deb files and put them in /var/cache/apt will it use them instead of downloading?
[02:13] <BenC> etienner: yep
[02:13] <Gosha> ... dpkg -i <dir>package name?
[02:13] <etienner> BenC,  I made the Bugreport #38447 (on launchpad) and you asked me to test it also on Dapper, so my question is
[02:13] <etienner> BenC, should I install Dapper or it is the same If I test it with a live CD?
[02:13] <wty> yes
[02:14] <wty> you kan dpkg --help
[02:14] <Gosha> wty: yes to me=
[02:14] <Gosha> ?
[02:14] <wty> yes
[02:14] <Gosha> k
[02:14] <Gosha> thankies
[02:14] <Bambino> ?? ato
[02:14] <BenC> etienner: liveCD should be fine
[02:15] <etienner> ok, ill try, thank's
[02:15] <Killgore> will i be able to get higher res after i install nvidia drivers?
[02:15] <thoreauputic> !tell Killgore about fixres
[02:16] <Flogee> Hello. I think that I have some problems with my graphic card drivers or something. I installed them so that the planetpenguin racer started working, but CEDEGA tests say that i fail 3D acceleration test. How do I fix the 3d acceleration thingy
[02:16] <pokales> hy again i try to use synaptic but i have this error
[02:16] <pokales> drom:[Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release amd64 (20051012)] /dists/breezy/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz: Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs
[02:16] <pokales> cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release amd64 (20051012)] /dists/breezy/restricted/binary-amd64/Packages.gz: Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs
[02:16] <pokales> don't beat me :)
[02:17] <morefiend> then stop doing it
[02:17] <pokales> help me how to disable cdrom ?
[02:17] <ChristmasCpp> hy all
[02:17] <morefiend> it fricken tells you what to do in the message
[02:17] <morefiend> remember READ
[02:18] <freakabcd> what script/command does gnome run when i select ;suspend' or 'hibernate' in the logout menu ??
[02:18] <wuzzy> hi! which package contains a the file X11/extensions/shape.h???
[02:18] <freakabcd> i ask because i want to suspend/hibernate from an environment which is _not_ gnome
[02:18] <thoreauputic> pokales: don't paste here like that
[02:18] <pokales> ok sorry
[02:18] <thoreauputic> !paste
[02:18] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[02:18] <pokales> but where to paste
[02:18] <gnomefreak> pokales: in your /etc/apt/sources.list put a # infront of the cdrom repo and take the # away from all other lines that start with deb
[02:18] <pokales> aa ok
[02:18] <thoreauputic> pokales: read ubotu above
[02:18] <pokales> yes i see
[02:19] <blueyss> r4343: you finished backing up?
[02:19] <pokales> i wiil do from now what say uboutu\
[02:19] <kingspawn> wuzzy: probably something along the lines of X11-dev
[02:19] <r4343> blueyss: I have the bliss folder
[02:19] <conga> can you help me, according to install, why unbunto doesn't ask me for root password?
[02:19] <kingspawn> conga: because the root account is disabled
[02:19] <freakabcd> conga, because you selected regular install.
[02:19] <blueyss> r4343: ok, let me know what you are done backingup
[02:19] <thoreauputic> !find X11/extensions/shape.h
[02:19] <conga> lol
[02:19] <conga> oh
[02:19] <freakabcd> kingspawn, no it is not in expert mode ;)
[02:19] <conga> how do i create root?
[02:19] <btwen> hi
[02:19] <hartym> conga, sudo su - then passwd to set it
[02:19] <blueyss> when*
[02:19] <ubotu> Ubuntu Search of 'X11/extensions/shape.h' (2 shown): (/usr/include/X11/extensions/shape.h) in x11/x11proto-xext-dev ;; (/usr/lib/TenDRA/lib/include/x5/ext.api/X11/extensions/shape.h) in universe/devel/tendra.
[02:20] <hartym> password asked is your normal user account's one of course
[02:20] <kingspawn> freakabcd: oh, are we talking about expert? i thought it was a generic question, just started following discussion
[02:20] <florin> buna
[02:20] <wuzzy> kingspawn: yeah, i have x11dev installed but it seems not to be there, some kind of extension i guess, but i cant figure out which. is there a way to search the repository for filenames or something like that?
[02:20] <r4343> bluyss: please can you save the postfix.cf and postfix.mf please its only two docs I am done
[02:20] <thoreauputic> wuzzy: ubotu just told you
[02:20] <thoreauputic> x11/x11proto-xext-dev
[02:20] <kingspawn> wuzzy: thank thoreauputic, he's got you covered (ref. ubotu)
[02:20] <freakabcd> kingspawn, no. i just pointed out that when performing an expert install it _will_ ask for root passwd and if one is entered it will be the root passwd and the account isn;t disabled
[02:21] <wuzzy> thanks!
[02:21] <kingspawn> freakabcd: ah, i see
[02:21] <Rulzern> how do I get glxgears to output FPS?
[02:21] <conga> nice, thank you hartym :)
[02:21] <thoreauputic> !info x11proto-xext-dev
[02:21] <ubotu> x11proto-xext-dev: (X11 various extension wire protocol), section x11, is optional. Version: 6.9.99.0-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 39 kB, Installed size: 328 kB
[02:21] <freakabcd> now, someone please tell me what script/command to use for hibernate and sleep
[02:21] <r4343> blueyss can you please save the postfix.mf and postfix.cf please I am done
[02:21] <freakabcd> i'm pretty pissed that i can do these only from gnome :(
[02:21] <pokales> !mount
[02:21] <ubotu> I heard mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[02:21] <gnomefreak> freakabcd: it doesnt ask you when you go to log out?
[02:21] <Flogee> Anyone got ideas to help me fixing 3d Acceleration. I have followed https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia so there should be no problem with drivers :/
[02:21] <kingspawn> freakabcd: looked into man acpi? (i dont know, just throwing out ballpark-stuff here)
[02:22] <freakabcd> when they have nothing specific to do with gnome
[02:22] <freakabcd> gnomefreak, what about other environments ?
[02:22] <pokales> !windowsdrives
[02:22] <ubotu> hmm... windowsdrives is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions or see http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[02:22] <freakabcd> kingspawn, i got hibernate(suspend to ram) working by running /usr/share/hal/scripts/hal-system-power-hibernate
[02:22] <r4343> blueyss; what was the problem
[02:22] <gnomefreak> freakabcd: i know my xfce does (atleast im pretty sure it does)
[02:22] <blueyss> r4343: where are they located?
[02:23] <freakabcd> and /usr/share/hal/scripts/hal-system-power-suspend doesn;t do anything :(
[02:23] <thoreauputic> !glxgears
[02:23] <ubotu> To display the FPS type "glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark"
[02:23] <r4343> blueyss; do a locate
[02:23] <freakabcd> gnomefreak, could you perhaps look for me and tell me what exactly it (you xfce) is doing when suspend to ram(sleep or whatever its called) is doing ?
[02:23] <GTX> how do I mount an .img file?
[02:23] <blueyss> r4343: can't you copy them to your ftp?
[02:23] <wuzzy> !find X11/extensions/Xrender.h
[02:24] <r4343> blueyss: cannot find them
[02:24] <kingspawn> freakabcd: http://www.suspend2.net/ might be worth a look
[02:24] <ubotu> Ubuntu Search of 'X11/extensions/Xrender.h' (1 shown): (/usr/include/X11/extensions/Xrender.h) in libdevel/libxrender-dev.
[02:24] <freakabcd> kingspawn, err.. no.
[02:24] <thoreauputic> GTX: probably  mount -o loop file.img /mount/point
[02:24] <kingspawn> haha, ok
[02:24] <morefiend> gtx mount -o loop -t iso9660 /path/to/iso /mount/point
[02:24] <Flogee> Hello. I think that I have some problems with my graphic card drivers or something. I installed them so that the planetpenguin racer started working, but CEDEGA tests say that i fail 3D acceleration test. How do I fix the 3d acceleration thingy
[02:24] <freakabcd> looking at that wouldn't help me as the thing already works!
[02:25] <freakabcd> just that its been customised/scriptised/whatever by the gnome/ubuntu folks
[02:25] <Killgore> Flogee: how did you install the drivers?
[02:25] <thoreauputic> morefiend: correct although usually you don't need the -t iso9660
[02:25] <freakabcd> theres no hal-system-power-hibernate etc. if you look at the suspend projects page
[02:25] <morefiend> ok
[02:25] <Flogee> Killgore, I have followed these https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[02:25] <blueyss> r4343: ok, searching for them now
[02:26] <Killgore> Flogee: should have done this http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/get.html
[02:26] <r4343> blueyss; what was the problem with hda1
[02:26] <Flogee> okay, thanks
[02:27] <Killgore> easyubuntu is great
[02:27] <Killgore> freakabcd: yea i had a lot of problems getting even shutdown to work in blackbox
[02:27] <blueyss> r4343: can't find them either, are you sure thats what they are called, and what are they btw?. the problem is that i don't think it's a normal ext3 partition, or it has some problems, almost all of the partition programs have reported errors of some kind, thats why i said you need to backup incase this kills it
[02:28] <freakabcd> huh? shutdown?? doesn;t /sbin/shutdown work for you in BB ?
[02:28] <Killgore> freakabcd: nope
[02:28] <thoreauputic> Killgore: menu item:  gksudo /sbin/shutdown now  < -- pu that in you BB menu
[02:29] <thoreauputic> *put
[02:29] <conga> sudo su - then passwd
[02:29] <conga> oop
[02:29] <GTX> how do I open a DVD which is mounted to my cdrom drive?
[02:29] <Killgore> thoreauputic: i didnt have gksudo in there
[02:29] <r4343> blueyss: I think IFYOU FELL iI will loose everthink then STOP and I will go back in and save eveything and we can do it at some time soon
[02:29] <blueyss> r4343: you have a ubuntu installation cd incase you need to install right?
[02:29] <freakabcd> Killgore, given that regular users can;t shutdown a machine, some form of sudo is necessary!
[02:29] <thoreauputic> Killgore: well then, xterm -e sudo /sbin/shutdown now  :)
[02:30] <Killgore> wish id know that when i was using it
[02:30] <thoreauputic> but it;s just as quick from a terminal anyway
[02:31] <Killgore> thoreauputic: yeah i guess so
[02:31] <blueyss> r4343: well, theres always a risk when resizing partitions. reboot and back everything up first then, then you can do it later
[02:31] <Killgore> thoreauputic: plus my startup section didnt work
[02:31] <GTX> how do I open a DVD which is mounted to my cdrom drive?
[02:31] <thoreauputic> Killgore: then you wrote it wrong :)
[02:31] <IdleOne> GTX, right click on the icon
[02:32] <Killgore> thoreauputic: gah its always wrong :(
[02:32] <thoreauputic> Killgore: :))
[02:32] <blueyss> r4343: are you using old version of ubuntu?
[02:33] <GTX> IdleOne, sorry I mean play not open
[02:33] <ENE|Toxic> Is it possible to redirect data to the desktop? (say, tail -f --retry /var/log/somelog > /dev/desktop .. ?)
[02:33] <r4343> blueyss: BB 5.10
[02:34] <IdleOne> GTX, double clicking it should bring up the default player but you may need the dvd codecs
[02:34] <IdleOne> !dvd
[02:34] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[02:34] <blueyss> r4343: up to date then. just your partitions are strange
[02:34] <thoreauputic> ENE|Toxic: you would normally use root-tail fr that - but it doesn't work in Gnome because nautilus writes the desktop
[02:34] <Killgore> thoreauputic: if i put .deb archives in /var/cache/apt will apt-get look there first for them?
[02:35] <conga> can someone help me for this config.log error: http://rafb.net/paste/results/OzVD4V44.html
[02:35] <r4343> blueyss  hda1 was windows and I moved hda3 which was unbuntu to hda1
[02:35] <thoreauputic> ENE|Toxic: same effect if you install "alltray" and config your terminal as borderless
[02:35] <Flogee> This easy ubuntu... When I try to install driver thro it, "http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/dists/breezy/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz: 404 Not Found" and gives the same problem on 3 other packages too. So, I try to make it add the repos... "http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/dists/breezy/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz: 404 Not Found" (and again, the same on 3 other packages)
[02:35] <thoreauputic> Killgore: yes
[02:35] <ENE|Toxic> thoreauputic: oh ... So nautilus has acess alone to the desktop :P
[02:35] <conga> how do i fix that?
[02:35] <ENE|Toxic> thoreauputic: hehe, yeah that's probably true
[02:35] <GTX> IdleOne, Im on dapper sorry, forgot to menchon it
[02:35] <thoreauputic> ENE|Toxic: it *draws* the gnome desktop
[02:36] <r4343> blueyss; did you do a cluster check
[02:36] <ENE|Toxic> thoreauputic: ok I get the point. I'm guessing there's no way to tell nautilus to drop my date
[02:36] <blueyss> r4343: k. well reboot back to your normal installation, you can backup your stuff and do it some other time then
[02:36] <thoreauputic> ENE|Toxic: which I personally think is brain-damaged...
[02:36] <IdleOne> GTX, try #ubuntu+1 but the libdvdcss2 file should still apply
[02:36] <ENE|Toxic> thoreauputic: hahah indeed
[02:37] <thoreauputic> ENE|Toxic: you can get gconf to force nautilus not to draw the desktop
[02:37] <kattbjorn> i have a system that is up and stable, and i have added 3 new drives to it.  i want to turn them into a raid 5 array.  what do i run to get a nice interface for setting this up?
[02:37] <Madeye> guys, how to access webDav with ubuntu gnome?
[02:37] <thoreauputic> ENE|Toxic: it isn't worth the hassle IMO
[02:38] <r4343> blueyss; NO I just need the postfix  mf and cf dos we can go ahead
[02:38] <ENE|Toxic> thoreauputic: cool, but yeah, like you said it seems like a bit to much troublesome to be worth it. Thanks for the idea though
[02:38] <Flogee> Killgore, what if easyubuntu can't find multiverse and can't add it cause it can't find it (or something)? xD
[02:38] <Flogee> tho I already did add multiverse myself earlier
[02:38] <IdleOne> !tell Flogee about multiverse
[02:38] <Flogee> :/
[02:38] <thoreauputic> ENE|Toxic: alltray is a cool utility though - you should check that out
[02:39] <ENE|Toxic> thoreauputic: btw why would I need "alltray" of all the tools to set my term borderless ?
[02:39] <void^> conga: did you install build-essential?
[02:39] <blueyss> r4343: i can't find them. i did find /mnt/tmp -iname *postfix* without results
[02:39] <conga> void^, nope
[02:39] <Killgore> Flogee: you tick the multiverse box lol
[02:39] <thoreauputic> ENE|Toxic: depends on your terminal - I think Eterm has a borderless option for instance
[02:39] <r4343> bluyss: there must be a postfix directory
[02:39] <void^> conga: well, then.. you may want to install it.
[02:40] <IdleOne> conga, sudo apt-get install  build-essential
[02:40] <thoreauputic> ENE|Toxic: alltray has a command switch that remove borders from windows
[02:40] <Flogee> Killgore, I've ticked them all lol
[02:40] <blueyss> r4343: theres a postfix in /mnt/tmp/bliss1/postfix
[02:40] <ENE|Toxic> thoreauputic: hmm, I think so too. But I'll look into this alltray program, it seems quite nice.
[02:40] <conga> yeah, thanks void^ IdleOne :)
[02:40] <freakabcd> does anyone know the command/script to run for suspend on ubuntu breezy/dapper ?
[02:40] <r4343> blueyss: ok just a sec
[02:40] <Sho_> Hi - does anyone know if Dapper's kernel will have a backport of the reverse-engineered Broadcom 43xx driver merged into 2.6.17-rc1?
[02:40] <thoreauputic> ENE|Toxic: I run fluxbox - so I can just make a key combo to remove window decorations
[02:40] <blueyss> r4343: it's probably best for you to reboot into your normal ubuntu then check for the stuff you need to backup first
[02:41] <ENE|Toxic> thoreauputic: fluxbox definately rules :)
[02:41] <freakabcd> Sho_, #ubuntu+1 is prolly more appropriate for that question
[02:41] <thoreauputic> ENE|Toxic: hear, hear! *grin*
[02:41] <Sho_> freakabcd: hmkay, thanks
[02:41] <ENE|Toxic> :D
[02:41] <freakabcd> although i can;t guarantee an answer there either
[02:42] <kattbjorn> no raid or mdadm configuration tools?  there's one on install, but i don't want to install.
[02:42] <GTX> IdleOne, I have been looking arround for this for ages, I cannot find it can you upload the .deb for me?
[02:42] <void^> !info dancer-ircd
[02:42] <IdleOne> !dvd
[02:42] <ubotu> dancer-ircd: (an IRC server designed for centrally maintained network), section universe/net, is extra. Version: 1.0.36-3 (breezy), Packaged size: 169 kB, Installed size: 504 kB
[02:42] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[02:43] <IdleOne> GTX,  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[02:43] <IdleOne> thats where the deb is
[02:43] <GTX> IdleOne,  It doesnt work as im on dapper
[02:43] <void^> conga: if you're trying to compile dancer ircd, consider using apt.
[02:43] <IdleOne> GTX, then #ubunbtu+1 is a better place to help
[02:43] <liable> kattbjorn: theres no gui stuff fro raid as far as i know, all cli and config editing atm
[02:43] <conga> void^, i installed it :)
[02:43] <GTX> IdleOne, all I need is the .deb can you get it for me?
[02:44] <conga> i use tarball
[02:44] <Madeye> guys, how to access webDav with ubuntu gnome?
[02:44] <IdleOne> GTX, no I cant as I am not on dapper and dont know where to get deb for dapper
[02:44] <variant> lo all, im having a problem getting proprietry ati driver to work
[02:44] <liable> kattbjorn: if you lack howto's, this isnt for raid5 but may give an idea.. http://www.jochem.name/Debian-Sarge-Raid1-mdadm
[02:44] <variant> the module loads after having done fglrxconfig
[02:45] <kattbjorn> liable: hurf.  i cringe as there is a gui during setup
[02:45] <variant> and i restart gdm but still no dri
[02:45] <kattbjorn> liable: but your suggestions are good
[02:45] <morefiend> what radeon card?
[02:45] <variant> mobility radeon x700
[02:45] <liable> kattbjorn: its part of 'partman' which isnt available out of the installer, so i guess you are out of luck..
[02:45] <variant> pci express
[02:46] <variant> morefiend: any thoughts?
[02:46] <morefiend> is dri supported on that chipset?
[02:47] <morefiend> I don't know, I have a 9700 AGP that DRI isn't suported on
[02:47] <Bambino> morefiend, variant says that yes, because it worked before so yes
[02:47] <morefiend> oh ok
[02:47] <morefiend> dunno then
[02:47] <morefiend> I've given up on them supporting the R300 any more now
[02:48] <r4343> blueyss GO aheadv I have got it
[02:49] <blueyss> r4343: ok, are you back in the livecd?
[02:50] <r4343> blueyss: I was never out of it I have postfix
[02:50] <blueyss> r4343: k
[02:50] <conga> there is no /usr/local/etc/ on ubunto?
[02:51] <conga> ubuntu
[02:51] <r4343> blueyss I think I know whats going to happen
[02:51] <blueyss> r4343: ?
[02:51] <r4343> blueyss: your still in ssh
[02:51] <blueyss> r4343: i just logged back in
[02:52] <blueyss> r4343: oh, hold on you have 2 ssh clients connected
[02:53] <Sound> problem here... i have installed wine and World of warcraft, but when i run the WoW.exe it gives some errors about OPENGL32.dll and some other dlls missing, anybody knows how to fix the problem?
[02:53] <r4343> blueyss:what do you mean
[02:53] <blueyss> r4343: nevermind. i lost connection last time and it's a ghost still connected
[02:54] <r4343> blueyss; its a bad partition I when gparted moved to hda1 it remauined o
[02:54] <r4343> blueyssremained on 1 sec for five minutes
[02:54] <zomi> hey people I have a question about a graphics card, I'm trying to install the binary nvidia drivers for
[02:55] <zomi> geforce 7800
[02:55] <Sound> i don't think i can be of much help, but what's the problem?
[02:55] <r4343> blueyss: after gparted had finished it got to one second and stayed there for ages
[02:56] <bash> ?rdate
[02:56] <blueyss> r4343: hmm, you aren't running gparted are you?
[02:56] <zomi> the drivers I get from nvidia complain about not having the right source
[02:56] <r4343> blueyss: no
[02:56] <blueyss> r4343: i'm just about to repartition the disk
[02:56] <zomi> i wonder if the card is at all supported
[02:57] <r4343> blueyss ok I am going to get a drink
[02:57] <Sound> hmm good question
[02:57] <bash> ?? rdate
[02:57] <Sound> i'm using Geforce 6800 and i'm not having any trouble
[02:59] <zomi> Sound: yes I know of many people that use geforce 6800
[02:59] <zomi> but not many who have the 7800
[02:59] <zomi> anyways thanks I have to go
[03:02] <tRSS> hey guys/gals. i used to mount my hfs+ partition (readonly) in ubuntu and since yesterday, I am unable to mount it. It seems my hfs+ partition is somehow corrupted because now I can't even boot into os x. any ideas?
[03:05] <raboof> given that bmac ethernet cards cannot be autodetected at this time and ppc macs are somewhat ;o
[03:06] <raboof> likely to contain one, should I file a bug saying the livecd should have bmac in /etc/modules?
[03:06] <winex> hi, i have a secondary slave HD (/dev/hdd), this is my old HD.. i want to backup some files.. but i cant mount it
[03:07] <_jason> winex: what happens when you try?
[03:07] <blueyss> r4343: ok, it's done, you have 1 gig of swap now
[03:07] <wuzzy> Hi! hat alternatives are there to gFTP? I need a client that supports TLS?
[03:07] <winex> i can mount the /boot partition
[03:07] <winex> because its primary
[03:07] <r4343> blueyss; WOO many thanks
[03:08] <winex> but, when i try to mount the other fs (logical) i get an error
[03:08] <blueyss> r4343: just need to create the file system
[03:08] <rcaskey_> does gfs doo TLS?
[03:08] <r4343> blueyss; thanks a pint I owe you
[03:08] <_jason> winex: paste the error (use pastebin if it's long).  Maybe someone will know about it
[03:09] <wuzzy> rcaskey_: gfs?
[03:09] <sfar> how do i swich virutal desktops in gnome with the keyboard?
[03:09] <_jason> sfar: ctrl-alt-<arrow keys>, you can change it in system > prefs> keyboard shortcuts
[03:10] <winex> the problem is, that my version of ubuntu is in spanish :(
[03:10] <tRSS> hey guys/gals. i used to mount my hfs+ partition (readonly) in ubuntu and since yesterday, I am unable to mount it. It seems my hfs+ partition is somehow corrupted because now I can't even boot into os x. any ideas?
[03:10] <_jason> winex: you can try #ubuntu-es, or paste the error and a rough translation by you on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ , then give us a link
[03:10] <sfar> thanks _jason
[03:10] <winex> yes, im in both channels :)
[03:10] <blueyss> r4343: ok, should be done now
[03:11] <r4343> blueyss; many thanks I hope that its stable now so will be ok in future
[03:12] <void^> you can try `LC_ALL=C some_command` to get english output
[03:12] <blueyss> r4343: i'm just resizing hda1 so it uses the remaining space on the partition
[03:12] <freakabcd> blueyss, lvm ?
[03:13] <blueyss> freakabcd: ext2resize
[03:13] <freakabcd> ok
[03:14] <Hexidigital> hey guys... i have a how-to question... i was tinkering with the screen resolution, and noticed at 1200*900 i could use my mouse to scrool to the non-viewable part of my screen... when i restarted, it defaulted to a 1200*900, but all on the screen at once... is there a way to get it 'scrollable' at start?
[03:14] <r4343> blueyss; are you in the uk
[03:14] <blueyss> r4343: i think you have errors on that partition, but should be ok
[03:14] <blueyss> r4343: i think you have errors on that partition, but should be o
[03:14] <blueyss> r4343: ye
[03:14] <blueyss> error: block relocator should have moved 515
[03:15] <blueyss> some errors, but should be ok
[03:15] <void^> Hexidigital: if you tinker with xorg.conf, set a higher max res than default res and the difference should be virtual by default
[03:16] <Hexidigital> void^, so in theory, i should be able to set my max res to whatever i want, and be able to scroll?
[03:16] <Jontydog> anyone help a complete noob? :)
[03:16] <blueyss> r4343: best way to get rid of those errors would be to backup all your stuff you want kept, then delete all those partitions and reinstall ubuntu latest version
[03:16] <freakabcd> Jontydog, thts not a question ;) ask you question first
[03:17] <freakabcd> grr laptop keyboards
[03:17] <r4343> blueyss: no leave it
[03:17] <Jontydog> okies I have just tried the live cd and can't connect to the net with it
[03:17] <freakabcd> Jontydog, do you have a dhcp server on the network?
[03:17] <blueyss> r4343: ye i have left it, but i'm saying in the future
[03:17] <Jontydog> I have a netgear wireless adapter that connects to a bt router
[03:17] <freakabcd> if not you have to manually setup the interface(s)
[03:18] <Jontydog> with ip addresses etc?
[03:18] <r4343> blueyss: ok are the errors critical
[03:18] <freakabcd> sure
[03:18] <void^> Hexidigital: in theory. you can also use a 'virtual' directive instead of setting a higher max res. it will still have to fit in your video ram.
[03:18] <rafal_> join /#wroclaw
[03:18] <Jontydog> ahh ok m8 thanks for that
[03:18] <blueyss> r4343: well, i don't think so, but it might affect you at some point
[03:18] <Hexidigital> void^, do you know if there's a wiki entry for how to do that?
[03:19] <Jontydog> should be the same ip addresses as with windows?
[03:19] <blueyss> r4343: maybe when you fill more of the drive that is
[03:19] <freakabcd> Jontydog, make sure you have set the right subnet mask and ofcourse don't forget routing and dns setup
[03:19] <void^> Hexidigital: `man xorg.conf` :)
[03:19] <Hexidigital> :) thanks
[03:19] <freakabcd> Jontydog, sure. if no other machine is taking up that ip address you can use the same one
[03:20] <r4343> blueyss: yes, well I will have to think on that But I offer you many thanks I think the going rate is about 200 a hour
[03:20] <Jontydog> (freakabcd) thanks hopefully will be back on in a bit under ubuntu :D
[03:20] <elkbuntu> is there a GUI manpage viewer included with ubuntu?
[03:20] <freakabcd> no worries. i'll mention again: don;t forget the routing setup. and dns too
[03:20] <r4343> blueyss: so ita a bit more than a pint
[03:20] <blueyss> r4343: don't thank me yet, it still has to boot/run correctly first :P
[03:21] <r4343> blueyss; o yes umm
[03:21] <blueyss> r4343: give it a try first
[03:21] <freakabcd> r4343, if it doesn;t work you can say he messed it up :p
[03:21] <r4343> blueyss: well here we go I will let you know
[03:21] <blueyss> r4343: k
[03:22] <_jason> elkbuntu: not on a default install that I know of, but I just typed gman into apt and it says it's a small man front-end for X.  So you can try that
[03:22] <void^> elkbuntu: i think xman comes with xorg ;)
[03:23] <elkbuntu> heh... void^: "Xman Error: No manual pages found."
[03:23] <luis_> exit
[03:24] <freakabcd> elkbuntu, xman _needs_ MANPATH to be set!
[03:24] <void^> elkbuntu: locate your package maintainer and beat him with chopsticks.
[03:24] <freakabcd> and by default it isn;t set as 'man' searches default places
[03:25] <elkbuntu> freakabcd, i dont mind manpages in terminal, i'm trying to write a guide for newbies. one would think a GUI man viewer would be almost an essential for a system aimed at new users
[03:25] <blueyss> i think the new gnome help system can view manages through it's gui
[03:25] <got2b3d> why do I get seg faults using glxgears and blender?
[03:26] <blueyss> man pages*
[03:26] <void^> well, manpages are usually used for commands and config files ..
[03:26] <freakabcd> got2b3d, maybe your gl libs are crap or your card's driver is having issues?
[03:27] <got2b3d> glibs?
[03:27] <freakabcd> glibs? i said GL libs
[03:27] <freakabcd> what are you using? nvidia's ones or mesa?
[03:28] <got2b3d> neither.  I'm using xserver-xorg-s3virge
[03:28] <freakabcd> no. it means you'reusing mesa
[03:28] <freakabcd> glxinfo
[03:28] <got2b3d> freakabcd, glxinfo = segmentation fault
[03:28] <freakabcd> glxinfo | grep 'OpenGL vendor'
[03:29] <bliss1_> blueyss: many thanks according to we have swap and unallocated space
[03:29] <blueyss> glxinfo | grep direct
[03:29] <freakabcd> umm.. ldd `which glxinfo`
[03:29] <bliss1_> gparted
[03:29] <_jason> anyone know of a way to make the ctrl-c copy and the highlight copy use the same buffer?
[03:29] <blueyss> bliss: np. ye i made the swap 1 gig and left a couple of gig of space for other things your might want
[03:29] <got2b3d> freakabcd, what commands?
[03:30] <freakabcd> didn;t i just tell you? ldd `which glxinfo`. dunno why its segfaulting on your system
[03:30] <bliss1_> blueyss: god idea can always make swap biger at some future for virtual mem
[03:30] <bliss1_> good
[03:30] <Klick> Hey all, im trying to setup a raid 5 array, as a data storage disk, I already have it going with 7 discs, and it works in windows, but i cant figure out what to do in nix, i tried to mount /dev/md0 no luck, and whenever i do raidstart it says /dev/md0 invalid argument
[03:31] <blueyss> bliss: ye, or you could use that extra space as a backup partition in the future if you want to start from scratch on ubuntu or something
[03:31] <got2b3d> ldd 'which glxinfo' = no such file or directory
[03:31] <bliss1_> blueyss: if I am careful I could log into ssh and follow your perivois commands
[03:31] <void^> backticks `
[03:32] <void^> Klick: that's hardware raid?
[03:32] <blueyss> bliss1_: ye, if you need to do it remotely
[03:32] <got2b3d> * freakabcd
[03:33] <bliss1_> blueyss: what prog did you use?
[03:33] <Klick> void^ yes
[03:33] <blueyss> bliss1_: i used a mixture of fdisk and cfdisk. they are command line tools
[03:33] <void^> Klick: shouldn't need md then, just the driver for your raid card
[03:34] <intuos_pen> hi, what could be wrong if breezy hibernate and suspend isn't working as expected? like if you logout>hibernate, it shutdown the notebook but when you turn it on, it didn't restore your session but let you go through booting process and gdm.
[03:34] <freakabcd> yup. you wouldn;t need raidstart iirc, cos the hardware does everything
[03:34] <Klick> void^, i have the driver loaded, and i tried mount -t vfat /dev/md0 /mnt/data
[03:34] <blueyss> bliss1_: ext2resize to resize the ext partition, but you wont need to use that
[03:34] <void^> Klick: it isn't md.
[03:34] <Klick> but no luck
[03:34] <Klick> void^ what would it be?
[03:35] <void^> Klick: see dmesg output, usually sda.
[03:35] <freakabcd> it'll be just a regular disk
[03:35] <freakabcd> yeah sd*
[03:35] <void^> Klick: perhaps a simple `fdisk -l` will list it
[03:35] <void^> (vfat on a raid5 over 7 disks..)
[03:35] <Klick> void^ i have no /dev/sd* devices...  i did a mkraid on it and i created a raidtab file back when i was follow a guide could that have messed anything up?
[03:35] <got2b3d> come on.  why would glxinfo, glxgears, blender seg fault?
[03:36] <bliss1_> blueyss it says 19210 used on my ubuntu partition?
[03:36] <void^> Klick: doing things without knowing what they do can mess anything up.
[03:36] <freakabcd> got2b3d, no idea mate. was it working before? or is this the first time you have tried?
[03:36] <shoofle> so i've got this pcmcia wireless card right next to me
[03:36] <shoofle> and i'm running ubuntu of course
[03:36] <shoofle> on my thinkpad 240
[03:36] <void^> Klick: at any rate, you will want to check what dmesg prints when the driver for the raid card loads.
[03:36] <freakabcd> it may be a problem with mesa or the xorg driver
[03:36] <got2b3d> freakabcd, I installed an s3 Virge.  Before I did everything worked.
[03:36] <shoofle> and i plug it in and nothing happens.  i feel really stupid, but here goes... what do i do to use it?
[03:37] <blueyss> bliss1_: ye, you are only using about 2 gig on your main partition. you have about 34 gig spare or something
[03:37] <freakabcd> you _installed_ an s3virge?
[03:37] <freakabcd> you mean before it was some other card/onboard thing?
[03:37] <got2b3d> yes, onboard
[03:38] <zido> i see in synaptic that i can make a alsa module for my soundcard by using make-kpkg <util>, what would the util be?
[03:38] <bliss1_> blueyss ihda1 34334  19210 used and 15124  left ?
[03:39] <Klick> void^ thanks, im on the phone with my coworker who is at the box right now we cant get IRC at work, and the forums havent been to helpfull :)
[03:39] <blueyss> bliss1_: hmm
[03:39] <freakabcd> got2b3d, i can only guess its mesa or maybe the driver.
[03:39] <bliss1_> blueyss yep thats what I thought
[03:39] <got2b3d> freakabcd, so try something besides mesa?
[03:39] <blueyss> bliss1_: start a ssh session, ill log in and check
[03:40] <blueyss> bliss1_: sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start
[03:40] <shoofle> linksys, wireless b adapter      model number wpc11 ver. 4
[03:40] <bliss1_> blueyss: give me that channel again
[03:40] <shoofle> any idea how to make it run and connect to wireless networks?
[03:41] <blueyss> bliss1_: type "/join #blueyss" in irc without the quotes
[03:41] <MenZa> Hmm... can anyone help me getting Gnome to run 1600x1200?
[03:42] <MenZa> I have the nvidia-drivers (from Synaptic) - and my GFX card (and monitor) support it.
[03:42] <MenZa> Thank you.
[03:42] <MenZa> @ tonyyarusso
[03:42] <tonyyarusso> MenZa: No problem :)
[03:43] <MenZa> You know.. it says Hoary in this thing, and I'm running Dapper. Do I just follow the same steps anyway?
[03:43] <MenZa> My English is rusty today :s
[03:43] <haGGis> how can i have read acsess to NTFS partions
[03:43] <_jason> ubotu: tell haGGis about ntfs
[03:44] <Klick> void^, im having trouble figureout out if the driver is loaded or not, we are using hpt366, and i told him to modprobe it, it loaded, but nothing about a device showd up in dmesg
[03:44] <tonyyarusso> MenZa: Probably, but you can check in #ubuntu+1 to make sure the procedure hasn't changed.  (We're in the process of fixing version specifications on the wiki, so if you find out the answer you may want to add that to the page.)
[03:44] <shoofle> How can I use my wireless-B linksys pcmcia card?
[03:44] <freakabcd> Klick, err.. you mean var/log/messages ? not dmesg
[03:44] <_jason> ubotu: tell shoofle about wireless
[03:45] <haGGis> i do i get MP3 and DIVX to work to
[03:45] <Klick> i should be looking in /var/log/messages?
[03:45] <freakabcd> why not?
[03:45] <_jason> haGGis: sorry, what do you mean?
[03:45] <freakabcd> mesg is _only_ the bootup messages
[03:45] <haGGis> like MP3 Codecs
[03:45] <haGGis> and divx codecs
[03:45] <_jason> ubotu: tell haGGis about mp3
[03:45] <haGGis> cheers
[03:45] <_jason> haGGis: divx codecs are on the same page as the mp3 one
[03:45] <Cin> There a place on the ubuntu site about setting up mod_ssl on Apache?
[03:45] <MenZa> tonyyarusso: I've run into a problem already; It says "sh: /var/lib/xfree86/xorg.conf.md5sum: No such file or directory"
[03:46] <freakabcd> i.e. if you're loading any drivers, etc. you want to tail -f /var/log/messages to look at the kernel messages for some device info ,etc.
[03:47] <tonyyarusso> MenZa: Okay.  a) I'll try to figure that out, b) You could ask in the Dapper channel too just in case.
[03:47] <freakabcd> Klick, open a term(as root run): tail -f /var/log/messages. open another term as root again, modprobe whatever driver you want.
[03:47] <freakabcd> then see if you get some info in the first term
[03:47] <MenZa> #ubuntu-dapper ? :o or perhaps -testing ?
[03:47] <freakabcd> MenZa, #ubuntu+1
[03:47] <serge> Hi everyone, just a quick question, or so I think, how do you login as root using GDM (login screen of sorts)?
[03:48] <tonyyarusso> MenZa: What freakabcd said.  Can you find that file manually?  (I have it, so I'm not sure why you're getting an error on it.)
[03:48] <freakabcd> serge, you can;t unless you're root account is enabled
[03:48] <freakabcd> serge, can you login as root on the console?
[03:48] <serge> freakabcd, yeah
[03:48] <tonyyarusso> serge: If it is enabled, that's an option in the GDM setup.
[03:48] <manicka> Does anyone know where the icon for the applications menu now exists in Dapper? It no longer appears to be /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/distributor-logo.png
[03:48] <Klick> freakabcd, nothing happens in the log when i modprobe it, i think its already loaded, and when i do rmmod it says device or resource busy
[03:48] <serge> ah yeah, i remember now thx
[03:48] <freakabcd> if you can, then logging in with gdm shouldn't be any issue
[03:48] <tonyyarusso> serge: Under security
[03:48] <MenZa> tonyyarusso: I can try.
[03:48] <serge> gdmsetup
[03:49] <tonyyarusso> MenZa: Try something like 'locate xorg.conf.md5sum'
[03:49] <MenZa> /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum
[03:49] <skeeto> hey people.
[03:49] <freakabcd> Klick, maybe look a bit at the last few pages of messages and see if theres anything interesting regarding your driver/device
[03:49] <skeeto> i've been wondering if any of you guys came across the problem that (k)ubuntu freezes during boot time, right after it checks the battery state?
[03:50] <serge> thanks freakabcd :)
[03:50] <freakabcd> serge, i didn;t do much, but you're welcome
[03:51] <freakabcd> man, i had a weird problem a while back. after updating kubuntu: the startup bootsplash was kubuntu and the shutdown/restart splash was ubuntu!
[03:51] <tonyyarusso> MenZa: Ah, so that must be the Dapper difference then.  Does it work with that?
[03:51] <freakabcd> it was fricking weird
[03:51] <tonyyarusso> freakabcd: But it fixed itself?
[03:51] <MenZa> tonyyarusso:  yep. It's asking me for the desired X Server Driver. I suppose 'nv' is nvidia?
[03:51] <freakabcd> no matter how many times i changed the usplash.so it did the same
[03:51] <freakabcd> tonyyarusso, yeah fixed itself
[03:51] <tonyyarusso> MenZa: I think so, unless you have the binary proprietary ones.
[03:51] <freakabcd> after i did an update yesterday or daybefore
[03:51] <tonyyarusso> freakabcd: Very strange.
[03:51] <_jason> ubotu: tell freakabcd about usplashchange
[03:52] <MenZa> tonyyarusso: I found one called 'Nvidia'. I assume that's the one ;)
[03:52] <freakabcd> _jason, i know about it!
[03:52] <freakabcd> grr..
[03:52] <Belboz99> hey, my Nvidia drivers are acting goofy
[03:52] <freakabcd> maybe you didn;t read what i typed
[03:52] <Klick> freakabcd, i think im going to just have to drive into work and mess with it there, not too confident about this guy overthere tellin me the right info.. but a quick question.. after i get the right driver loaded, and find the name of the device, should i just be able to mount it?  i did a mkraid /dev/md0 and have a raidtab file and i think it did something to the array not sure, cause windows wont see my data disc anymore
[03:52] <gridblock> Hello everyone
[03:52] <_jason> freakabcd: nope, just the last sentences sorry :)
[03:52] <haGGis> where is the best place to get differnt themes for GNOME
[03:52] <Belboz99> every time I press Shift+ Backspace it reboots the GUI :P
[03:52] <tonyyarusso> Hi gridblock.
[03:52] <MenZa> Belboz99: ...that would be the idea, I assume; that's what restarts X iirc?
[03:52] <freakabcd> Klick, err.. are you the raid guy with 7 disk or so vfat array?
[03:53] <MenZa> brb
[03:53] <tonyyarusso> haGGis: gnomelook.org, I think is the URL.  Maybe gnome-look.
[03:53] <freakabcd> h/w raid? or was that someone else?
[03:53] <ladynash> hi doree n i hope u willbe happy if u become my friend.
[03:53] <Belboz99> MenZa, it could be Ctrl+Alt+Backspace
[03:53] <haGGis> cheers i love ubutu wen i get it workin lol
[03:53] <Klick> freakabcd, yes
[03:53] <freakabcd> Belboz99, it _is_ ctrl+alt+bkspace by default
[03:53] <Belboz99> I happen to press Shift every time I backspace a capitol letter
[03:53] <freakabcd> unless you change it by editing the code
[03:54] <Belboz99> freakabcd, it only happens when I use the "nvidia" driver
[03:54] <Klick> haGGis gnome has an app called "Art manager" also check out gnome-look.org
[03:54] <freakabcd> Klick, pray that your data isn;t messed up already
[03:54] <Klick> freakabcd, i think its hw raid, not sure how to know
[03:54] <Belboz99> freakabcd: ,but when I start Ubuntu with the "nv" driver the Xserver borks and I have to startx mannually
[03:54] <freakabcd> cos you don;t want to do mkraid, etc.
[03:55] <freakabcd> Belboz99, look at the xorg.log file tosee what the issue was?
[03:56] <haGGis> having problems installing Streaming Video from the Internet. have used the code from th WIki restricted formats   paste bin link to error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11674
[03:56] <tonyyarusso> Klick: What's the package name for this Art Manager?
[03:56] <freakabcd> Klick, really a proper h/w raid card does this: the array is visible as a single disk to the operating system. and the only need for drivers, etc. is for management only.
[03:56] <Klick> tonyyarusso, not sure, but it comes with gnome 2.1.14 or whatever the newest one was.. im using dapper 6
[03:56] <void^> Klick: look at /proc/scsi
[03:56] <freakabcd> tonyyarusso, what art manager?
[03:56] <ladynash> am also a nice and look gril and i hope u are going to like me.
[03:56] <tonyyarusso> Klick: Aaah.  Okay, I'll wait.
[03:57] <freakabcd> ladynash, ??
[03:57] <tonyyarusso> freakabcd: The one he mentioned earlier - seems to be new.
[03:57] <tonyyarusso> freakabcd: (troll :) )
[03:57] <freakabcd> art manager? whats that? an app. or just a bunch of files?
[03:57] <Klick> it's an app that is in my gnome
[03:58] <Klick> under preferences
[03:58] <Henk> I want to create a raid1 device from sda3 & sbd3, however there is no /dev/md0 on my system so mdadm refused to build it. The system is using udev. How should i proceed ?
[03:58] <haGGis> having trouble installing streamming video player for firefox. have used the Wiki but no lucj just keep getting errors
[03:58] <mds> using apt I can't locate a package for the ms tt core fonts.. is there some way to install..  some other repo?
[03:58] <_jason> haGGis: which one are you trying to install?
[03:59] <Belboz99> freakabcd: (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)
[03:59] <oxez> in gnome how can configure windows so when we move them we don't see their content moving, but only the borders? would make the thing less laggy
[03:59] <haGGis> i know its the mozila one on th wikii i tried that but no luck is there 1 for firefox
[03:59] <Belboz99> maybe I should be on the Dapper channel
[03:59] <_jason> haGGis: you are trying to install mozilla-mplayer?
[03:59] <Klick> haGGis, i not an expert on apt, but i think its a problem with your sources
[03:59] <haGGis> i have tried that 1
[03:59] <juztin> is there a command i can give in console to unzip a whole directory of zip files at once?
[03:59] <Klick> see if you can install just the normal mplayer first
[04:00] <_jason> haGGis: what happens when you try to install it?  does it actually install?
[04:00] <haGGis> emmm am using the RESTRICTED MEDIA  guide i was given in here
[04:00] <arrick> morning guyg
[04:00] <tonyyarusso> Klick: unzip * ?
[04:00] <arrick> guys
[04:00] <freakabcd> Belboz99, dapper/devel channel is #ubuntu+1 and maybe you haven't installed the nvidia driver properly
[04:00] <haGGis> no here is the paste bin url with the errors
[04:00] <_jason> ubotu: tell haGGis about mplayer
[04:00] <haGGis> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11674
[04:00] <Klick> tonyyarusso, heh not me
[04:00] <_jason> haGGis: have you enabled multiverse?
[04:00] <sauli> hello
[04:01] <haGGis> yeah
[04:01] <arrick> how do you use terminal to tell how much disc space is left on you hd?
[04:01] <Klick> df -h
[04:01] <freakabcd> juztin, i dunno. to be safe, i would use a loop: for i in *.zip; do unzip $i; done
[04:01] <_jason> haGGis: can you put your /etc/apt/sources.list on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ please?
[04:01] <tonyyarusso> Klick: Oops.
[04:01] <tonyyarusso> juztin: unzip * ?
[04:01] <haGGis> whats that
[04:01] <juztin> tonyyarusso, that gave me some error messages
[04:01] <freakabcd> but ofcourse the gods of #bash would likely despise me for using a loop where not necessary ;)
[04:01] <tonyyarusso> juztin: Such as?
[04:02] <haGGis> _jason: whats that mate
[04:02] <_jason> haGGis: go to accessories > terminal and type 'gedit /etc/apt/sources.list' and then copy and paste the contents into http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ .  When you send it, give us the url for the page
[04:02] <mds> using apt I can't locate a package for the ms tt core fonts.. is there some way to install..  some other repo?
[04:02] <juztin> tonyyarusso,  End-of-central-directory signature not found.  Either this file is not
[04:02] <juztin>   a zipfile, or it constitutes one disk of a multi-part archive.  In the
[04:02] <juztin>   latter case the central directory and zipfile comment will be found on
[04:02] <juztin>   the last disk(s) of this archive.
[04:02] <_jason> !info msttcorefonts
[04:02] <ubotu> msttcorefonts: (Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts), section multiverse/x11, is optional. Version: 1.2ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 21 kB, Installed size: 164 kB
[04:02] <freakabcd> juztin, did you see the loop i pasted?
[04:02] <_jason> mds: you need multiverse, have you enabled it?
[04:03] <freakabcd> use that and it shoud extract all the zip files in the current dir properly
[04:03] <arrick> how do you use terminal to tell how much disc space is left on you hd? _jason
[04:03] <juztin> freakabcd, yes, tried it....got errors like this : unzip:  cannot find or open Monsters, Monsters.zip or Monsters.ZIP.
[04:03] <mds> I have..  but I just realized I'm trying to do this on dapper..  not breezy
[04:03] <haGGis> _jason: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11675
[04:03] <juztin> gotta reboot brb
[04:03] <_jason> arrick: df -h
[04:03] <Klick> freakabcd, so doing mkraid what all does that do, since i typeed that already, if i find the name of the device and try to mount it, it will probably fail so i will have to mke2fs it?
[04:03] <freakabcd> grr.. floopin spaces
[04:03] <tonyyarusso> mds: You need multiverse I'll bet.
[04:03] <_jason> !info msttcorefonts dapper
[04:03] <ubotu> msttcorefonts: (Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts), section multiverse/x11, is optional. Version: 1.2ubuntu2 (dapper), Packaged size: 21 kB, Installed size: 164 kB
[04:03] <mds> hah
[04:03] <mds> thanks :)
[04:03] <_jason> mds: still there :) you sure you have multiverse for dapper, and not dapper-backports?
[04:03] <mds> yes. just enabled it and apt-get update
[04:04] <MenZa> Well that didn't work :(
[04:04] <m0biu5> where would i look to find errors when resuming from sleep with my laptop?
[04:04] <haGGis> _jason: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11675
[04:05] <mds> oh wait
[04:05] <mds> _jason, backports and multiverse are different?
[04:05] <_jason> haGGis: you only have backports' multiverse.  To enable it for breezy, add `` multiverse'' to the end of every line that contains ``universe'' and begins with ``deb''.  If that's confusing, let me know and I'll tell you what lines need it
[04:05] <_jason> mds: there are dapper-backports multiverse, and there are dapper backports
[04:05] <freakabcd> Klick, i dunno mate. the last time i worked with raid it was like this: h/w raid. 4 disks, raid5. linux saw a single disk /dev/sda, used fdisk, etc. to partition it properly and away it went.
[04:05] <freakabcd> thats all i did.
[04:05] <_jason> mds: there are dapper-backports multiverse, and there are dapper multiverse, I mean
[04:05] <freakabcd> now, you need to use mkraid, etc. if you're _not_ using h/w raid
[04:06] <freakabcd> yeah, a bit cray.
[04:06] <haGGis> _jason: ok ill try that and let u know mate lol prob muck it up tho lol
[04:06] <freakabcd> crazy.. there dapper-backports multiverse and dapper multiverse
[04:06] <_jason> haGGis: you can paste it when you are done if you want
[04:06] <_jason> even though dapper-backports don't exist
[04:06] <m0biu5> where would i look to find errors when resuming from sleep with my laptop?
[04:07] <platoon> how do i rip a cd to wave format?
[04:07] <freakabcd> platoon, grip? or any other ripper
[04:07] <platoon> in the same quality and bitrate that is on the cd
[04:07] <MenZa> tonyyarusso: It didn't work for some reason; I input my horizontal and vertical rates, restarted x - but 1600x1200 appears nowhere in the "Screen Resolution" setup.
[04:07] <rob_p> m0biu5: I'd look in /var/log.  Specifically acpid, messages, and syslog.
[04:07] <freakabcd> even mplayer can rip to wav
[04:07] <dominic_> how do i upgrade my 2.12 to 2.14 gnome desktop???????? to my ubuntu breezy
[04:07] <freakabcd> without any issues
[04:07] <Klick> freakabcd, how do i know if im using hw raid or not
[04:07] <magnus1> hej nn svensk?????????
[04:07] <haGGis> _jason: ok how do i get acsess to that so i can change it form read only so i can edit it
[04:07] <_jason> dominic_: easiest way is to wait for dapper
[04:08] <platoon> freakabcd: i have something called sound juicer here, can i rip to wave with that? or is grip better?
[04:08] <_jason> haGGis: gksudo 'gedit /etc/apt/sources.list'
[04:08] <magnus1> NN SVENSKA!? NN SOM SPELAR MAGIC!??
[04:08] <osfameron> !se
[04:08] <ubotu> Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu.se resp. #kubuntu.se
[04:08] <tonyyarusso> MenZa: Did you only change the rates, or try adding the res too?
[04:08] <freakabcd> platoon, its been ages and ages since i ripped something.
[04:08] <osfameron> sound juicer has no options
[04:08] <osfameron> this is a *good* thing :-)
[04:08] <freakabcd> i dunno if sound juicer can do ripping, if it can it will do a good job
[04:08] <osfameron> I just opened grip today and don't get it at all
[04:08] <freakabcd> osfameron, what?
[04:09] <freakabcd> grip is nice
[04:09] <haGGis> _jason: gedit /etc/apt/sources.list only gives me read only acsess so cant edit it
[04:09] <osfameron> it wants you to decide "rip and encode" or "just rip", without explaining what that means
[04:09] <osfameron> encode as what?
[04:09] <m0biu5> rob_p, i am not sure where to look really =/
[04:09] <dominic_> dapper it release on june
[04:09] <osfameron> and it has mystery meat icons that look at bit like hifi controls
[04:09] <freakabcd> err.. encode as whatever the encoder you specify encodes to!
[04:09] <haGGis> _jason: tell a lie mate sorry
[04:09] <errpast> I'm going to install a Digium card, Asterisk, and a sip server for voip.  Any gotchas any can think of? Favorite helpful sites, wikis?  thx
[04:09] <dominic_> is their any easist way to upgrade my 2.12 to 2.14 gnome desktop
[04:10] <freakabcd> platoon, do you have mplayer installed ?
[04:10] <osfameron> freakabcd:  and it would kill them to explain that in the help file?
[04:10] <platoon> freakabcd: i do not think so. i will try the grip program now
[04:10] <freakabcd> hehe..
[04:11] <osfameron> admittedly sound juicer only reads my cd rom at 2x speed (it's capable of 10x or more on windows), dunno if grip is cleverer on that
[04:11] <freakabcd> err.. ofcourse grip uses the max speed of the drive
[04:11] <_jason> haGGis: working now?
[04:11] <freakabcd> i have no idea why the heck that other app would be doing it slower
[04:11] <osfameron> freakabcd: I think I tried with another app to
[04:11] <mds> _jason; all set thatnks..  I thought backports multiverse was all there was
[04:12] <freakabcd> osfameron, this is just ripping audio cds ?
[04:12] <osfameron> grip has some helpfile notes about scsi emulation, which I may try
[04:12] <osfameron> freakabcd: yeah
[04:12] <_jason> ubotu: tell mds about components
[04:12] <_jason> mds: for your reading pleasure :)
[04:12] <mds> :)
[04:13] <haGGis> _jason: still having the same problem i edit it they way u sai paste bin url http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11676 pastebin error url: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11677
[04:13] <freakabcd> osfameron, mplayer cdda://1 -ao pcm:file=track1.wav
[04:13] <freakabcd> what speed does that dump the wav file at?
[04:13] <freakabcd> should be fast
[04:14] <_jason> haGGis: you missed line 18 and run 'sudo apt-get update' always after editing /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:14] <intuos_pen> is it a good idea to enable RTC interrupt in kernel?
[04:14] <osfameron> freakabcd: ah, I'll just let this CD finish in sound juicer then try it
[04:14] <freakabcd> ok.
[04:15] <Gean> can someone help me with "aMSN" please?
[04:15] <_jason> Gean: what problem are you having?
[04:15] <freakabcd> only thing some might find 'lacking' in mplayer is that you don't have a nice gui etc. and you need to either repeat for every track or script it
[04:15] <intuos_pen> i mean, is it advisable to say "Y" on kernel menuconfig prompt "[ ]  Provide RTC interrupt" ?
[04:15] <freakabcd> Gean, sure, i'll help you if possible. amsn is quite nice i might add
[04:16] <Gean> yeah the problem is
[04:16] <Gean> i try to download it
[04:16] <freakabcd> intuos_pen, that isn;t an ubuntu specific question.
[04:16] <freakabcd> go ask #kernelnewbies
[04:16] <Gean> but, it's a "*.deb" file or something?
[04:16] <freakabcd> huh?
[04:16] <haGGis> _jason: changed line 18 and still have intall problem
[04:16] <_jason> freakabcd: how about gmplayer?
[04:16] <_jason> haGGis: what does it say now?
[04:16] <freakabcd> i dunno.
[04:16] <Gean> wait i'll find a link
[04:17] <freakabcd> i always use cvs mplayer and don't even bother compiling the gui they provide
[04:17] <freakabcd> why would i try gmplayer/kmplayer/*mplayer :p
[04:17] <Gean> http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/amsn/amsn_0.95-3.ubuntu.deb
[04:17] <Gean> you see?
[04:17] <_jason> Gean: amsn is in the repositories
[04:17] <_jason> !info amsn
[04:17] <ubotu> amsn: (An MSN messenger written in tcl), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.94-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1946 kB, Installed size: 6976 kB
[04:17] <haGGis> the error or the file u asked me to change
[04:17] <Gean> where do i find it?
[04:17] <freakabcd> mplayer and e17 are the 2 things i have always tried to use cvs
[04:18] <haGGis> _jason: the error or the file u asked me to change
[04:18] <_jason> Gean: just enable universe and 'sudo aptitude install amsn' (or you can use synaptic)
[04:18] <_jason> ubotu: tell Gean about universe
[04:18] <_jason> haGGis: just the error
[04:18] <freakabcd> _jason, not if you want nice AA fonts. you'll need tcl/tk 8.5 alphas + 0.95+ of amsn
[04:18] <Gean> ty jason
[04:18] <javier> fggdfg
[04:19] <dominic_> is their any easist way to upgrade my 2.12 to 2.14 gnome desktop
[04:19] <Frogzoo> dominic_: no
[04:19] <haGGis> _jason: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11681
[04:19] <dominic_> why
[04:19] <freakabcd> _jason, i really love the fonts now.
[04:19] <osfameron> is there an alternative to OOo?
[04:20] <freakabcd> _jason, example here http://esscc.uq.edu.au/~imran/amsn_main.jpg
[04:20] <osfameron> I guess crossoveroffice
[04:20] <_jason> haGGis: 'sudo apt-get update'
[04:20] <tonyyarusso> osfameron: Sure.  abiword, gnucalc, etc.
[04:20] <Frogzoo> !tell osfameron about ooo2
[04:20] <_jason> freakabcd: that does look nice
[04:20] <Frogzoo> osfameron: the updated oo is much better
[04:20] <osfameron> tonyyarusso: a good presentation tool?
[04:20] <freakabcd> ofcourse it does!
[04:20] <Gean> where do i find it in repository ?
[04:20] <haGGis> _jason: ok done that
[04:20] <osfameron> Frogzoo: ah, thanks
[04:20] <freakabcd> check out this one:
[04:20] <freakabcd> http://esscc.uq.edu.au/~imran/amsn_aa.jpg
[04:20] <tonyyarusso> osfameron: Not sure, you'd have to find it yourself.  I know other stuff exists anyway.
[04:21] <_jason> Gean: after enabling universe, you just search for amsn in synaptic, or issue: sudo aptitude install amsn
[04:21] <freakabcd> amsn keeps me liking it beter and better with every release/cvs update ;)
[04:21] <Gean> i'm a newby on linux
[04:21] <Gean> enabling universe?
[04:21] <_jason> Gean: did you manage to enable universe ok?
[04:21] <haGGis> _jason: ok done that
[04:21] <Gean> how ? :D
[04:21] <freakabcd> just like mplayer used to keep me happy since the old 0.1x days
[04:22] <_jason> Gean: check your private messages from ubotu :)
[04:22] <_jason> haGGis: now try installing again
[04:22] <haGGis> still wont
[04:22] <_jason> haGGis: k, let me see your new sources.list
[04:23] <freakabcd> osfameron, you;re after a good presentation tool?
[04:23] <haGGis> still wont
[04:23] <haGGis> _jason: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11682
[04:23] <freakabcd> ooimpress seems good for presentations. unless you want to do it the hard way of latex+{prosper/seminar/latex-beamer}
[04:24] <_jason> haGGis: hmm?
[04:24] <osfameron> freakabcd: yeah... well, I'd use a source-based one, but then I get sidetracked with stuff...
[04:24] <osfameron> I've not been enjoying impress so far - it's like PowerPoint, with all of PowerPoint's annoywances plus more of its own
[04:24] <augustin> hello
[04:24] <osfameron> though maybe version 2.0 will be good
[04:24] <freakabcd> err.. not really
[04:25] <haGGis> _jason: i just reinstall the 32 bit version of ubutou caus i cant anything to workin the 64 bit lol
[04:25] <_jason> ubotu: tell haGGis about mplayer
[04:25] <freakabcd> ooimpress is powerful enough and simple enough.
[04:25] <augustin> can anyone point me to a mail server to install on ubuntu ? i don't know where to find what the "best" or "easiest" mail server is...
[04:25] <_jason> haGGis: try installing one of the mplayer packages first (see ubotu's link)
[04:25] <osfameron> I'm finding the navigation between slides rather annoying: (also hidden away in menus to find it) and less powerful than PP
[04:25] <freakabcd> augustin, i dunno. tried postfix? can;t tell you if its the best though
[04:25] <osfameron> also, formatting in outline mode, though it doesn't have some of PP's oddities, has its own
[04:25] <haGGis> ok ill try ill be back in 10 and still be crying lol
[04:26] <_jason> haGGis: nah, it'll work
[04:26] <MenZa> http://pastebin.com/646098 <- does anyone have a clue why I can't run 1600x1200?
[04:26] <MenZa> :S
[04:26] <augustin> freakabcd, no, i just figured out i would like to be able to use my machine as a mail server, but i didn't know where to start... postfix you say ?
[04:26] <freakabcd> yup postfix is an mta
[04:27] <Gean> jason
[04:27] <Gean> i managed to install it :)
[04:27] <Gean> thanks
[04:27] <_jason> Gean: great
[04:27] <freakabcd> you could use that. theres many many others but i've heard orm some people that its nice
[04:27] <Gean> thank u very much
[04:27] <augustin> thanks, i'm looking into it right now =)
[04:27] <Gean> now, have an other question
[04:27] <Gean> can i play MP3 in someway?
[04:27] <freakabcd> qmail claims to be the fastest i think. anyway you choose whichever one you want
[04:28] <augustin> also (and sorry for being noobish), what should i do to create a SSH access to my Ubuntu machine ? once again, i do not know where to look for information (searching brings back way too many answers)
[04:28] <augustin> freakabcd, ok thanks, i'll look into qmail and postfix =)
[04:28] <freakabcd> ubotu, tell Gean about restrictedformats
[04:29] <Frogzoo> anybody experienced wine crashes after enabling prelinking?
[04:30] <PlantPerson> How can I set ubuntu not to prompt for a password every time I close the lid on my laptop?
[04:32] <Hexidigital> what is the hotkey for a screenshot?
[04:32] <alex_> Hello guys, I need help to install Ubuntu in a Power PC someone can help me?
[04:32] <_jason> Hexidigital: PrntScrn
[04:32] <PlantPerson> Hexidigital: PrintScreen
[04:32] <Hexidigital> _jason, thanks... obvious i guess
[04:32] <Hexidigital> PlantPerson, ty also
[04:33] <haGGis> _jason tried the Mplayer still have all the errors
[04:33] <TraceGreen> hello, does anyone know austrumi
[04:33] <_jason> haGGis: k, show me the command and the output you tried to install mplayer-<arch>
[04:33] <freakabcd> austrumi? is that some kind of meat or something?
[04:34] <TraceGreen> freakabcd, it is a livecd just like ubuntu
[04:34] <haGGis> _jason: which mplayer mate the 1 for mozzla or the standers mplayer tried both
[04:34] <freakabcd> err.. ok.
[04:34] <freakabcd> standaloe should be avaiable for x86-64
[04:34] <_jason> haGGis: standard mplayer
[04:35] <haGGis> ok 2 sec
[04:36] <osfameron> freakabcd: OK!  OOImpress2 *looks* rather improved, I'll check it out properly
[04:37] <freakabcd> good to know. but i'm stuck with latex+latex-beamer
[04:37] <freakabcd> i'm deliberately putting myself through it so that i get used to it :)
[04:38] <haGGis> _jason: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11683 all that works ok but comple with http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11684
[04:38] <osfameron> freakabcd: ah, I think it's probably the right way at the end of the day.  Markup based stuff is easier to style etc.
[04:38] <slider2800> Hi all.
[04:38] <osfameron> I'd probably use a POD-based thing rather than learning latex though...
[04:38] <qaz> Hi, I just installed U. 5.10 and I heard there is a utility that makes installing media playing software easier.  Haven't found it by google or on the ubuntulinux web-site. Can anyone point me to a name to google for?
[04:39] <_jason> haGGis: hrmm, you want to follow the wiki link, not the compiling one :)
[04:39] <_jason> haGGis: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto
[04:39] <freakabcd> haGGis, err.. what exactly have you pasted?
[04:39] <haGGis> _jason: i am using the guie u gave me
[04:39] <_jason> !mplayer
[04:39] <ubotu> mplayer is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[04:39] <_jason> see ^
[04:40] <freakabcd> ubotu, tell qaz about restricted
[04:40] <slider2800> qaz. Try Automatix. ( i guesss. )
[04:40] <haGGis> _jason: lol earlyer ubotu gave me http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061 wen u told it lol
[04:40] <Frogzoo> bzip2 is really slow - I suppose there's nothing can be done about that?
[04:40] <frank23> !automatix
[04:40] <ubotu> methinks automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[04:40] <_jason> haGGis: that's ok.  he gave you both, but you missed it.  Before you go on, did you actually get to issue 'sudo make install' ?
[04:40] <freakabcd> Frogzoo, how many gigs are you compressing?
[04:40] <Jhair> Frogzoo: slow compared with...
[04:40] <haGGis> no
[04:41] <qaz> ubotu: much gracias!
[04:41] <ubotu> qaz: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:41] <Frogzoo> freakabcd: only 2M :(
[04:41] <freakabcd> eh..
[04:41] <_jason> haGGis: ok good, you can just follow the wiki without any problems then
[04:41] <freakabcd> and you say its slow!
[04:41] <frank23> qaz: you can try easyubuntu
[04:41] <Frogzoo> Jhair: gzip
[04:41] <slow-motion> bbl
[04:41] <freakabcd> god, last time me and my colleague compressed 8 gigs
[04:41] <frank23> qaz: and ubotu is a bot ;)
[04:41] <freakabcd> and we though it wasn;t too slow
[04:41] <qaz> frank23: I think thats the one.
[04:41] <slider2800> uh. so automatix is risky? .. yeah. that could be the reason why i have my little problem.
[04:41] <Frogzoo> freakabcd: how long'd that take?
[04:42] <eghie> automatix could create problems, but you can be lucky ;)
[04:42] <freakabcd> an hour++
[04:42] <frank23> slider2800: eghie: easyubuntu is much safer apparently
[04:42] <Jhair> Frogzoo: you are right I tried now with a 22MB text file but with a 2MB file the difference should not be that big
[04:42] <Frogzoo> freakabcd: wierd - my puny 2meg is taking like 10mins
[04:42] <zido> does ubuntu have init.d or initrd files that alows me to stop/start alsadrivers?
[04:42] <eghie>  I've used both
[04:42] <Jhair> Frogzoo: 10mins?
[04:42] <|Barbelos|> Hmmm... What's the command to fix packaging messups again. Something wih '-f', new from an RPM distro here. * sigh *
[04:43] <mds> does having deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe multiverse negate the need to have deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe in sources?
[04:43] <freakabcd> err.. this is the point in the conversation where i ask the specifications of the machine you use
[04:43] <slider2800> I just installed Firestarter with automatix, but i couldn't start it. it said that Eth0 isn't ready.. and so i removed it, but now everytime i log in, Firestarter is asking for my password... how could i remove that?
[04:43] <Jhair> Frogzoo: compressing a 20MB file with bzip takes 10 seconds on my machine
[04:43] <Frogzoo> Jhair: ok, I like - 200 meg - but it squeezes down to 1meg - spose I shouldn't complain
[04:43] <_jason> mds: yes
[04:44] <frank23> slider2800: by default firestarter has to ask your password averytime since it runs as root
[04:44] <mds> sexy..  so all I had to do was add multiverse to that line...
[04:44] <freakabcd> mds, yes
[04:44] <eghie> easyubuntu and automatix works both very well, but i use those only at my workstation, where it doesn't matter if it's damaging my installation
[04:44] <mds> thanks again _jason
[04:44] <freakabcd> just add multiverse to the universe line
[04:44] <_jason> mds: np
[04:44] <freakabcd> and its all cool :)
[04:44] <mds> I can finally install mplayer :D
[04:45] <freakabcd> but man, i was very confused with travelling about the universe. then i found theres something else called multiverse! :p
[04:45] <slider2800> right. i figured that, but since i'm quite a noob with Ubuntu and i already removed Firestarter with Synaptic.. AND i removed Firesterter from the booting seq with BUM... i still don't know where i should completely STOP Firestarter from even launching.
[04:46] <Gean> i can't get the mp3 to work
[04:46] <Gean> i know it's restricted
[04:46] <_jason> Gean: did you install gsteamer0.8-mad ?
[04:46] <Gean> yup
[04:46] <Emry> Does anyone know of either a midi-player that uses OSS or a way to set kmid to use oss?
[04:46] <frank23> slider2800: if you removed it with synaptic, it shouldnt start any more
[04:46] <eghie> slider2800: if you removed firestarter with synaptic, it shouldn't work at all
[04:46] <_jason> Gean: and how are you trying to play your mp3?
[04:46] <Gean> just ... double click
[04:46] <slider2800> but its still asking for my root pw on login.
[04:47] <_jason> Gean: what does it open with? totem?
[04:47] <Gean> yeah
[04:47] <frank23> slider2800: firestarter is asking that?
[04:47] <_jason> Gean: are you using breezy?
[04:47] <eghie> slider2800: take your shotgun and do your thing
[04:47] <Gean> that's the problem probably?
[04:47] <slider2800> yeah.
[04:47] <Gean> yeah is guess to
[04:47] <Gean> so
[04:48] <eghie> slider2800: look for something like firestarter in /etc/rc3.d/ or /etc/rc2.d/
[04:48] <slider2800> okay. one sec.
[04:48] <torcua> hola
[04:48] <Jhair> ?
[04:48] <conga> this is my /etc/network/interface, iface eth0 inet dhcp, how do i set static ip for this device?
[04:48] <_jason> Gean: what does 'lsb_release -c && apt-cache policy gstreamer0.8-mad | grep -i Installed' say?
[04:48] <haGGis> _jason use  sudo apt-get install mplayer-386 to get to install but get errors http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11685
[04:48] <Gean> in terminal?
[04:48] <_jason> Gean: yes
[04:48] <frank23> slider2800: make sure firestarter is uninstalled. try (in synaptic), Status->Not installed (residual config) and remove anything left behind by firestarter
[04:49] <Gean> i need to type it ?or can i copy paste?
[04:49] <_jason> Gean: you can copy and paste
[04:49] <slider2800> uh. hold on. i'm using almost everything in Hungarian...
[04:49] <slider2800> so. i've found a file called K20Firestarter in rc3.d
[04:49] <Gean> can't get the copypaste to work :D
[04:49] <eghie> rm it
[04:49] <_jason> Gareth: ok, two ways we can proceed.  You can paste your sources.list and I can look for what I missed, or I can link you to a sources.list generator and you can make a new one
[04:50] <_jason> Gean: highlight to copy, middle click to pastse
[04:50] <freakabcd> slider2800, do it with synaptic and check for residual config
[04:50] <_jason> haGGis: ok, two ways we can proceed.  You can paste your sources.list and I can look for what I missed, or I can link you to a sources.list generator and you can make a new one
[04:50] <eghie> slider2800: sudo rm /etc/rc3.d/K20Firestarter
[04:50] <freakabcd> if its not there and you're sure its supposed to be goen, then you can delete it
[04:50] <frank23> slider2800: do it with synaptic, it will remove all those links
[04:51] <_jason> haGGis: which method would you prefer?
[04:51] <slider2800> Synaptic sez STATUS : NOT INSTALLED
[04:51] <Gean> it doens't seem to work
[04:51] <slider2800> what now?
[04:51] <freakabcd> slider2800, is there a residual config thingy in Custom?
[04:51] <_jason> Gean: what doesn't?  the copy and paste or the command?
[04:51] <Gean> the command
[04:51] <Gean> copy paste was ok
[04:51] <slider2800> hold on. Synaptic is in Hungarian too. i'm a bit slow with switching my mind from English back to my mother language. :P
[04:52] <freakabcd> hey jason, since you seem to know stuff about ubuntu. i want to get rid of older kernels.
[04:52] <freakabcd> everytime i update and get a new kernel it gets some linux-image thingy
[04:52] <freakabcd> and i also have the older kernels.
[04:52] <slider2800> Residual config? ... where is that? ...
[04:52] <_jason> freakabcd: find them in synaptic and remove them.  Keep at least one old one though
[04:52] <frank23> slider2800: you could just reinstall firestarter the remove it using the "remove completely" option. that will also get rid of everything
[04:52] <slider2800> uh. Remove Completely... thats what i just selected.
[04:53] <slider2800> ok. i try to reinstall and complete removal afterwards.
[04:53] <eghie> slider2800: just remove the file
[04:53] <laffer-pt> can someone help configurate qmail please?
[04:53] <Jhair> laffer-pt: ? does ubuntu distribute qmail?
[04:54] <freakabcd> _jason, what i want to know is this: theres a linux-386 package, theres several linux-image packages and theres a few linux-header* packages
[04:54] <slider2800> okay. on complete removal i got this : "E: firestarter: subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 1
[04:54] <slider2800> "
[04:54] <r0ver> Jhair: did you try the #qmail channel ?
[04:54] <_jason> freakabcd: the linux-image stuff should correspond to the kernels you see when booting grub
[04:54] <laffer-pt> Jhair I've downloaded the tarball and compiled it
[04:54] <laffer-pt> Jhair I don't think ubuntu has  it... but I'm not shure
[04:55] <igrar> Does anybody know , about TI card reader driver driver ? is it exist at all?
[04:55] <eghie> slider2800: the package removal script is not working correctly
[04:55] <slider2800> great...
[04:55] <eghie> slider2800: just remove the file
[04:55] <slider2800> before that i try reinstalling and THEN removing it.
[04:55] <haGGis> _jason: whats easyer
[04:56] <Jhair> r0ver: I couldn't care about qmail less (I don't agree with some of the authors views), but I found strange that laffer-pt asked for help here in #ubuntu :)
[04:56] <_jason> ubotu: tell haGGis about easysource
[04:56] <_jason> haGGis: that page ubotu just sent you, let's you create a sources.list to replace your current one.  Just select all the official/community supported stuff
[04:56] <frank23> slider2800: sudo apt-get remove --purge firestarter    try in a terminal (close synaptic) and report any error message
[04:57] <slider2800> k. i'll try.
[04:57] <eghie> frank23: he'd done it in synaptic which does the same
[04:57] <haGGis> _jason: no i am completly lost of what i have mucked up or done lol
[04:57] <Polypterus> Hi. I once tried Damn Small Linux and it had some sort of applet on the desktop by default, that displayed how much memory the computer were using, how much space were left on the harddrive etc. Is it possible to get something like that for Ubuntu? If yes, where can I find it?
[04:57] <frank23> eghie: yeah but maybe he would get the exact error
[04:58] <irad> how do i close my kde session via konsole?
[04:58] <haGGis> _jason: so what will this list do for mr
[04:58] <haGGis> ,e
[04:58] <slider2800> dpkg: error processing firestarter (--purge):
[04:58] <slider2800>  subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 1
[04:58] <slider2800> Errors were encountered while processing:
[04:58] <slider2800>  firestarter
[04:58] <slider2800> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[04:58] <_jason> haGGis: well it seems you don't have universe now.  Maybe you accidentilly deleted it when adding multiverse.  That list will create a brand new sources.list, that you will then replace your old one with
[04:58] <Karpor> Polypterus, try gkrellm
[04:59] <_jason> slider2800: use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for that please
[04:59] <freakabcd> slider2800, er.. strange. you run that as root or user
[04:59] <eghie> frank23: synaptic does return the same error as apt, because it's just parses the output of apt
[04:59] <frank23> eghie: I see
[04:59] <slider2800> uh. i think as user. ( with sudo )
[04:59] <haGGis> _jason: ok kool ill try then throw a bucket of water at my pc if it does not work lol
[04:59] <Polypterus> Karpor: thanks mate! :)
[05:00] <eghie> slider2800: when you use sudo, you use only for that commando root priviledges and also the root user
[05:00] <haGGis> _jason: do u think just reinstall would be easyer
[05:00] <_jason> haGGis: no, definitely not
[05:00] <irad> why do i get error when i try to burn CD-RW ?
[05:00] <freakabcd> ok someone tell me why the hell does aynaptic/apt need up remove any extra options specified on some kernels ?
[05:00] <Karpor> Polypterus, np :)
[05:00] <slider2800> well... damn. :P
[05:00] <irad> why do i get error when i try to burn CD-RW ? with k3b btw
[05:00] <Khamael> how do I burn an iso image in ubuntu?
[05:00] <eghie> slider2800: just remove the firestarter file from the rc3.d folder
[05:00] <freakabcd> i have vga=773 and it goes and removes it
[05:00] <slider2800> i'll try deleting the file.
[05:00] <eghie> slider2800: it will work for sure
[05:00] <freakabcd> from all entries when i removed an older kernel. does the same when i get a newer kernel via update
[05:01] <_jason> haGGis: it's just a small typing error that is causing your problem :)
[05:01] <freakabcd> shouldn't it be preserving the file as is and just modify whatever it needs to? i.e. add new entry witrh default settings on new kernel and remove entry of older kernel
[05:01] <freakabcd> the rest of the file should be untoughed.
[05:02] <freakabcd> everytime i have to go back and add my stuff in
[05:02] <slider2800> okay. i go and see if it did get rid of it.
[05:02] <slider2800> brb.
[05:02] <haGGis> _jason so is thie right http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11686
[05:02] <eghie> ok
[05:02] <Khamael> can nautilus burn .iso images on a cd?
[05:03] <_jason> haGGis: are you in gb?
[05:03] <freakabcd> Khamael, use k3b or xcdroast
[05:03] <tonyyarusso> Khamael: It can.
[05:03] <freakabcd> and irad what error does it give? have you setup k3b properly by running it as root for the first time?
[05:03] <slider2800> i'm back.
[05:03] <haGGis> _jason sorry mate i guive up thx for the help
[05:04] <eghie> slider2800: that's fast :S
[05:04] <_jason> haGGis: heh please finish?
[05:04] <slider2800> it doesn't ask me for the password anymore... ( insteda its writing : Unable to start Firestarter as root. Child closed 1 ) or something.
[05:04] <_jason> haGGis: 2 minutes you'll be set, I promise...
[05:04] <irad> freakabcd never done that
[05:04] <irad> freakabcd wait a sec i'll tell you
[05:04] <haGGis> _jason: its doin ma head lol
[05:04] <freakabcd> haGGis, just get cvs and do it like i do. distro diesn;t matter. heck even operating system doesn;t matter :)
[05:04] <slider2800> so. i have to log in as root and remove it from the boot list or what?
[05:05] <haGGis> whats CVS
[05:05] <eghie> slider2800: /etc/rc2.d and /etc/rc3.d are your boot lists
[05:05] <freakabcd> err.. latest development code. you have to compile it yourself.
[05:05] <_jason> haGGis: here, use this one http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11687 .  Just issue: gksudo 'gedit /etc/apt/sources.list'     and then delete your old one and put the new one I pasted
[05:05] <slider2800> oh. okay.
[05:05] <freakabcd> ie. the developers work on that code everyday :)
[05:05] <haGGis> _jason: cheer mate 2 min
[05:05] <freakabcd> well, i'd like to think everyday..
[05:05] <irad> freakabcd it tells me that the souce is empty
[05:05] <eghie> slider2800: those folders are your boot folders
[05:05] <slider2800> yup. i figured tath :P
[05:05] <slider2800> that*
[05:05] <eghie> :)
[05:06] <freakabcd> irad, ?
[05:06] <freakabcd> what are you trying to do?
[05:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> what sound system creates /dev/snd/seq?
[05:06] <Khamael> tonyyarusso, how?
[05:06] <freakabcd> burn an iso image or something. you can;t burn 'nothing' !
[05:06] <slider2800> so... how can i stop either root to start Firestarter or whatever to start firestarter as root. ?
[05:07] <tonyyarusso> Khamael: I should just be a context menu option.
[05:07] <irad> freakabcd 1st i when i was starting burning it wrote me: checking source disk, and line after it: 'The source disk is empty'
[05:07] <tonyyarusso> Khamael: (right-click)
[05:07] <LinuxNoob> Hi! Is there any keyshortcut for opening the terminal window?
[05:07] <George007> can someone explain what these commands do: root@George:~# iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE
[05:07] <George007> root@George:~# echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[05:07] <freakabcd> so, thats what it is. your source cd is blank
[05:07] <_jason> LinuxNoob: you can set one in system > prefs > keyboard shortcuts
[05:08] <tonyyarusso> Khamael: "Write to disk"
[05:08] <irad> freakabcd source cd = the CDRW?
[05:08] <haGGis> _jason: just getting error in treminal when u try to save that now http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11688
[05:08] <freakabcd> irad, are you trying to copy a cd?
[05:08] <EddieX> Anyone who has tried the nvidia 1.0-8183 ?
[05:08] <freakabcd> if so, do you have more than 1 cd drive?
[05:08] <tonyyarusso> LinuxNoob: You can set one.
[05:08] <LinuxNoob> _jason, : tnx
[05:08] <_jason> haGGis: what error?
[05:08] <irad> freakabcd, no date cd of mp3s into CDRW
[05:08] <haGGis> look at pate bin
[05:08] <haGGis> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11688
[05:08] <irad> DATE*
[05:08] <irad> DATA*
[05:08] <_jason> haGGis: I just see what I pasted
[05:09] <ubuntu> y a t-il des Francophonnes?
[05:09] <_jason> !fr
[05:09] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[05:09] <freakabcd> ok. did you go, New project, then data cd. or click on the 'new data cd' button?
[05:09] <freakabcd> then you need to add your mp3s or whatever files on the bottom. then click on burn
[05:09] <haGGis> _jason: sorry http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11689
[05:09] <slider2800> eghie : can you tell me where i can find a file thats referring to Firestarter at startup? .. ( something like boot.ini in win$uxx )
[05:10] <Chousuke> Meh.
[05:10] <irad> freakabcd. i just clicked on the new project in the beggining when i got a dialoug
[05:10] <Chousuke> I would've liked to install Ubuntu on my mom's computer, but it seems the printer isn
[05:10] <freakabcd> ok. then you added the files?
[05:10] <Chousuke> ins't supported at all
[05:10] <[ToS] Cariness> can anynone help me , make my mmc drive to work?
[05:10] <slider2800> ... whoops. he's gone.
[05:10] <Chousuke> isn't* :P
[05:10] <shoofle> i downloaded the proper drivers for XP like the ubuntu wiki hardware site said, but how do i install it/use ndiswrapper?
[05:10] <irad> freakabcd yeah
[05:11] <slider2800> duh... reboot. :P
[05:11] <freakabcd> and then clicked on burn. then it says '...' ?
[05:11] <_jason> haGGis: that's fine, gedit should have opened anyway.  Just highlight everything, delete it.  Then copy everything from the pastebin and paste it into your blank sources.list.  Then save.  Then 'sudo apt-get update'.
[05:11] <freakabcd> Chousuke, what printer?
[05:11] <irad> freakabcd, i think i got my problem
[05:11] <irad> freakabcd thanks
[05:11] <freakabcd> what was the issue?
[05:11] <elcuco> the ctrl+f2 window does not work for me. using latest dapper. anyone knows something about that?
[05:11] <Chousuke> freakabcd: lexmark all-in-one X2330
[05:11] <freakabcd> would be nice to know if someone else has the same issue, i can just give your answer
[05:12] <ubuntu> ou sont les Franais???
[05:12] <Chousuke> freakabcd: no support at all.
[05:12] <chris> is DBO here?
[05:12] <haGGis> _jason: ok what now try and install that mplayer
[05:12] <_jason> ubuntu: /join #ubuntu-fs
[05:12] <fyrebat> I'm a linux noob, can anyone tell me how to get the 'package lXext' ?
[05:12] <_jason> ubuntu: /join #ubuntu-fr
[05:12] <Chousuke> dell500: no mention on linuxprinting.com at all either.
[05:12] <LinuxNoob> If I want to check for new opera releases from the terminal window. What do I write? sudo apt-get ?
[05:12] <_jason> haGGis: sudo aptitude install mplayer-386
[05:12] <freakabcd> Chousuke, i got a crappy dell 725 free usb printer probably work $9.90 or less with my laptop
[05:12] <chris> how can i get apache to read, write?
[05:12] <freakabcd> and like hell it will work in linux
[05:12] <haGGis> _jason: kool thx be back in 2
[05:13] <irad> freakabcd, hmmm
[05:13] <chris> i want apache to have full control of apache folder and delete, create folders in apache
[05:14] <irad> freakabcd, i was just going to File ->> New Project ->> New Data CD Project
[05:14] <freakabcd> and?
[05:14] <irad> freakabcd added files and done hehe :P
[05:14] <freakabcd> good.
[05:14] <irad> freakabcd i didn't got the burn cd option before so i was confused..
[05:14] <LinuxNoob> How do I reg on this server?
[05:14] <_jason> !register
[05:14] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[05:14] <irad> LinuxNoob /nickserv register pass
[05:14] <freakabcd> ah, ok. no worries. good you have it sorted now.
[05:15] <haGGis> _jason: got the oackage downloaded and use the gedit ~/.mplayer/config to make the config file it wont save
[05:15] <George007> !ntfs
[05:15] <ubotu> well, ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[05:15] <fyrebat> anyone know how to get lXext?
[05:16] <George007> !writentfs
[05:16] <ubotu> George007: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:16] <_jason> haGGis: what happens when you try?
[05:16] <rusakk0> how do i get a printer working.. i know to work by the instruction yes but do i need to do something in ubuntu first
[05:16] <[ToS] Cariness> how can i play dvds?
[05:16] <rusakk0> now when i hit "print" it prints to a file
[05:16] <_jason> haGGis: run mplayer first, then try again.  If it still doesn't work put 'ls -a ~' on pastebin
[05:16] <haGGis> _jason: just syas it cant save " Could not save the file"
[05:16] <funkyHat> How can I find out what kernel module my ethernet adapter is using?
[05:16] <haGGis> ok
[05:17] <slider2800> back agin... AND i need some help.
[05:17] <funkyHat> Or can someone tell me what module nForce 2 builtin ethernet adapters use?
[05:17] <EddieX> slider2800, With ?
[05:17] <George007> How can I be able to add/change/mondify stuff on my NTFS HDs?
[05:17] <slider2800> with Firestarter.. again.
[05:17] <_jason> George007: boot windows is the only safe way
[05:17] <slider2800> When i log in, its asking me for the root password.
[05:17] <EddieX> Ok, nothing for me then :)
[05:17] <George007> I see... it aint safe to modify stuff using ubuntu _jason ?
[05:17] <slider2800> EddieX : maybe you CAN help me...
[05:18] <slider2800> its actually a boot problem.
[05:18] <gnomefreak> George007: ntfs writing is very unsafe to do reading is fine
[05:18] <EddieX> slider2800, Is it not possible to start that app by using sudo?
[05:18] <_jason> George007: not imo
[05:18] <slider2800> i don't want to start it...
[05:18] <freakabcd> yes George007. it isn't safe to modify/write with _any_ linux distro
[05:18] <EddieX> slider2800, Oh okey.
[05:18] <George007> gnomefreak, i just wanna move some files to a folder
[05:18] <slider2800> i already removed it, but the system still wants to run it.
[05:18] <EddieX> slider2800, Let? take that private :)
[05:18] <slider2800> and is asking me for the password.
[05:18] <George007> freakabcd, why is that?
[05:18] <slider2800> ok.
[05:19] <freakabcd> because macro$oft doesn;t want to release the spec of their fs
[05:19] <funkyHat> George007, because the specification for NTFS is closed so NTFS support in linux is a bit hit and miss
[05:19] <gnomefreak> George007: i wouldnt from linux (it has something to do with the securty of ntfs) iirc
[05:19] <Insyte> So... Is anyone else having daylight savings time problems?  My Ubuntu boxes keep setting thmeselves ahead 1 hour every night.
[05:19] <Insyte> Ever since DST started.
[05:19] <Insyte> (And yeah, BIOS clock is set to UTC.)
[05:19] <haGGis> _jason: ok done that and it loads up and works ok . tried a streaming video site and cant get it to wok that way
[05:19] <freakabcd> ie. whatever has been done until now witht eh read support for ntfs has been reverse-engineered or hacked for long hours
[05:20] <_jason> haGGis: did you install mozilla-mplayer?
[05:20] <freakabcd> gnomefreak, bull. its the spec.
[05:20] <goofrider> George007, consider repartition your drive with an additional FAT32 partition for sharing files b/w the 2 OSes
[05:20] <George007> I see... ty funkyHat , gnomefreak , _jason , freakabcd  =)
[05:20] <haGGis> _jason: Yes
[05:20] <gnomefreak> freakabcd: i said iirc
[05:20] <freakabcd> no spec means no compliant and proper support
[05:20] <EddieX> slider2800, Did you get my private message?
[05:20] <slider2800> yes.
[05:20] <_jason> haGGis: ok you are using the default firefox1.07 on breezy?
[05:20] <George007> goofrider, I cant do that... I cant format my 160 GB HD, got nowhere to backup =)
[05:20] <kartik_> i want to use mywebcam and chat with my friends on Yahoo please let me know if ne messengers supports webcams
[05:20] <kartik_> !webcam
[05:20] <ubotu> I guess webcam is now easy to install, per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam - webcam support soon to be available in  gaim-vv.
[05:21] <haGGis> _jason: yeah well the 1 that came with the istall
[05:21] <GotUbuntued> Damn.... I'm never going back to windows.... I just love Ubuntu... tnx for all the help guys!
[05:21] <j4k> I need to setup PEAP authentication on my laptop on flight 6. My wireless nic is detected and installed. Is there a way to do this?
[05:21] <freakabcd> kartik_, amsn supports webcams since a long while back
[05:21] <_jason> haGGis: k, pastebin 'ls -l /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/'
[05:21] <EddieX> slider2800, Ok, if you find that script you could just change it to not be executable (sudo chmod -x /etc/init.d/scripty )
[05:21] <kartik_> freakabcd, but i need it for Yahoo
[05:21] <freakabcd> but amsn doesn;t do the yahoo network. only msn
[05:21] <slider2800> scripty?
[05:22] <freakabcd> yeah. i dunno how good gaim is with webcams.
[05:22] <gnomefreak> kartik_: not yet they are not finished with gaim-vv yet
[05:22] <EddieX> slider2800, scripty == firestarter or something :)
[05:22] <slider2800> yeah. ok.
[05:23] <EddieX> Did you find a script like that+
[05:23] <haGGis> _jason: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11691
[05:23] <slider2800> EddieX : well. there's nothing.
[05:23] <_jason> haGGis: k, do this 'sudo rm /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/libtotem*' then restart firefox
[05:23] <EddieX> slider2800, Ok, Firestarter is some iptables stuff ?
[05:24] <slider2800> you're asking the right guy for that. :P i'm a total noob when it comes to this.
[05:24] <EddieX> slider2800, Ok, hey nothing wrong with that :)
[05:24] <gnomefreak> EddieX: firestarter is a gui front-end to the iptables
[05:25] <slider2800> lol. :) i'm more a designer, not a programmer. :D
[05:25] <haGGis> _jason: kool that worked mate thx :P what is the easyest way ti install Nvida Grx drivers
[05:25] <_jason> ubotu: tell haGGis about nvidia
[05:25] <EddieX> gnomefreak, Ok, slider2800 why does firestarter during boot?
[05:25] <haGGis> _jason: cheers for all ur help
[05:25] <gnomefreak> EddieX: why does it what during boot?
[05:25] <fromvega> Hello
[05:25] <EddieX> Does it setup the rules?
[05:25] <_jason> haGGis: np, we finally got it
[05:25] <EddieX> gnomefreak, Sorry.
[05:25] <haGGis> lol kool
[05:25] <slider2800> not boot actually.. when i log in into gnome, its asking me for the root passw.
[05:26] <EddieX> slider2800, Ah, that? something else :)
[05:26] <gnomefreak> EddieX: no you have to set them up. firestarter is a gui way of changing the rules
[05:27] <gnomefreak> slider2800: whats asking you for root password?
[05:27] <gnomefreak> i can honstly say that ubuntu has never asked for a root password for me
[05:27] <George007> !ftp
[05:27] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: vsftpd, proftpd
[05:27] <slider2800> Firestarter. ( or something like that. )
[05:28] <gnomefreak> slider2800: should just be asking for password
[05:28] <fromvega> Please, could you help me? I'm using SVN and created a hook script to execute a command: "svn update /var/www/projects". But it's not working, I think it is a permission issue, but I do not know how to solve. I have set www-data as the owner of /var/www folder but nothing.
[05:28] <fyrebat> anyone know how to get lXext?
[05:28] <slider2800> well ok. yeah. just password. ( so my passw and root pw isn't the same. :P lol. maaan am i a noooob! :D )
[05:28] <freakabcd> fromvega, i would love to help you here. but #svn is very very good.
[05:28] <EddieX> slider2800, Hmm
[05:29] <freakabcd> if nobody is awake, i can join and help you _there_ _after_ you inform me so
[05:29] <fromvega> freakabcd: they have tried, but I think it's more a linux issue than svn
[05:29] <freakabcd> huh? ok.
[05:29] <_harm> how can i add subtitels using mplayer through consule?
[05:30] <George007> sudo apt-get install proftpd <-- right guys?
[05:30] <freakabcd> /var/www/projects is a checkout i assume
[05:30] <fromvega> freakabcd: yes, it's a working project
[05:30] <paula> loba
[05:30] <void^> !info libxext6
[05:30] <ubotu> libxext6: (X11 miscellaneous extension library), section libs, is optional. Version: 1:6.4.3-3 (breezy), Packaged size: 21 kB, Installed size: 96 kB
[05:30] <slider2800> gnomefreak, EddieX : ... is there a way to remove firestarter from somewhere, like from boot.ini or win.ini  in Win$ucks?
[05:31] <void^> fyrebat ^
[05:31] <George007> !info proftpd
[05:31] <ubotu> proftpd: (Versatile, virtual-hosting FTP daemon), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 1.2.10-22 (breezy), Packaged size: 347 kB, Installed size: 1044 kB
[05:31] <fyrebat> void^: thx I'll try
[05:31] <j4k> Is there any support for PEAP wireless auth in Ubuntu?
[05:31] <EddieX> slider2800, Well uninstall firestarter? If you are not going to use a gui to setup/change your fw rules
[05:31] <George007> sudo apt-get install proftpd <-- right guys? or should I get it from a site??????
[05:32] <goofrider> George007, use apt-get
[05:32] <slider2800> EddieX --- i already removed it, but a total removal gives me an error, so i can't completely wipe it out.
[05:32] <goofrider> George007, and I think vsftpd is more secure  IIRC
[05:32] <p> hello
[05:32] <funkyHat> slider2800, it's being started by your gnome session, not by a boot script
[05:32] <slider2800> okay.
[05:32] <George007> I use apt-get as well goofrider ?
[05:32] <freakabcd> ok, from what you have said this is what i gather. everytime there is a new commit, you want to update a local copy on the server and this copy is used for some purpose
[05:32] <EddieX> slider2800, Hmm ok. Is there some way to reset a gnomesession ?
[05:32] <George007> !info vsftpd
[05:32] <goofrider> George007, if it's in apt-get, use apt-get
[05:32] <George007> !ftp
[05:32] <ubotu> vsftpd: (The Very Secure FTP Daemon), section net, is extra. Version: 2.0.3-1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 105 kB, Installed size: 404 kB
[05:32] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: vsftpd, proftpd
[05:32] <slider2800> so. where can i edit my gnome stuff?
[05:33] <freakabcd> fromvega, now i need to know what this 'purpose' of yours is
[05:33] <luis__> quit
[05:33] <fyrebat> void^: says I already have newest version of of libxext6, but when I try to install wine, it says cannot find 'lXext'
[05:33] <slider2800> reset?
[05:33] <void^> fyrebat: libxext-dev
[05:33] <Plitskin> later guys...
[05:33] <fyrebat> void^: oh cool, I didn't have that one
[05:33] <fromvega> freakabcd: a 'live' site... just to be able to run the code in the repository
[05:34] <Apsilon> join ubuntu-it
[05:34] <fyrebat> void^: see if wine install works now...
[05:34] <freakabcd> is it alright if we take this conversation off this channel? maybe pm or a new channel if you wish
[05:34] <hewhe> what is the name of the most recent upgrade of ubuntu? dabber?
[05:34] <Apsilon> hi everyone
[05:34] <freakabcd> hewhe, dapper flight6
[05:35] <hewhe> thanks :)
[05:35] <hewhe> hello Apsilon
[05:35] <slider2800> AW MAAAN!!!! THAT WAS SO SIMPLE!!!! ...
[05:35] <funkyHat> hewhe, the most recent STABLE release is breezy, 5.10
[05:35] <Apsilon> is it the ubuntu italian channel or international
[05:35] <Dr_Willis> !dapper
[05:35] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[05:35] <slider2800> Why didn't i think of that earlier?!
[05:35] <VincentMX> Apsilon international
[05:35] <VincentMX> :D
[05:35] <slider2800> I just removed firestarter from within the Gnome Control Center. :P
[05:35] <slider2800> lol!
[05:36] <funkyHat> slider2800, nice one ;)
[05:36] <VincentMX> apsilon: join #ubuntu-it for italian i think
[05:36] <slider2800> Anyway, thanks for the help guys.
[05:36] <hewhe> Dapper Drake :P
[05:36] <slider2800> bye all!
[05:36] <VincentMX> apsilon, that's with most channels. ubuntu-nl, and ubuntu-de
[05:37] <Apsilon> ok
[05:37] <VincentMX> :D
[05:37] <freakabcd> Apsilon, international would be this one!
[05:37] <fromvega> freakabcd: pm
[05:37] <George007> goofrider, u got experience with vsftpd?
[05:37] <freakabcd> didn;t i reply to you already?
[05:37] <freakabcd> fromvega,  what chat client are you using?
[05:37] <Apsilon> ok just for speaking
[05:37] <fromvega> freakabcd: XChat
[05:37] <freakabcd> fromvega, type /query freakabcd
[05:37] <fromvega> freakabcd: I have sent you some messages
[05:37] <freakabcd> that will open up a tab for you
[05:37] <EvilDin> need help
[05:38] <EvilDin> chmod -R 775 /
[05:38] <EvilDin> ups
[05:38] <goofrider> George007, no, just heard a few good things. I recommend avoiding FTP altogether, it's insecure
[05:38] <fromvega> freakabcd: I already have opened one
[05:38] <goofrider> George007, SCP/SFTP via SSH should do everything that FTP can
[05:38] <George007> goofrider, what do u recommend I use for file sharing with windows?
[05:38] <EvilDin> do you maybe know how to cange all permission to all files to 664 and to all directories to 775
[05:38] <goofrider> George007, Samba
[05:39] <EvilDin> i have many sunfolders
[05:39] <EvilDin> subfolders
[05:39] <freakabcd> fromvega, oh damn.
[05:39] <freakabcd> i didn;t identify myself to nickserv.
[05:39] <fromvega> :\
[05:39] <freakabcd> no wonder it kept floopin
[05:39] <George007> I already have that setup goofrider...... mmm........
[05:39] <freakabcd> lemme identify myself
[05:39] <funkenstein> yeah, what's up with the naming here? I like ubuntu, fair enough, humanity and that... but: Warty warthog = Ugly Pig? Hoary Hedgehog = old porcupine? Breezy Badger = flatulent badger? Dapper Drake = Gay duck???
[05:39] <hewhe> is Dapper Drake out yet?
[05:39] <George007> how do I uninstall the FTP server then goofrider ?
[05:39] <freakabcd> alright
[05:39] <VincentMX> is there any way to connect to XDMCP running on my Ubuntu/gdm b0x, from a Windows PC?
[05:39] <ompaul> !dapper
[05:39] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[05:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> hewhe: no, not untill june
[05:40] <funkenstein> hewhe, read ubotu's comment above...
[05:40] <goofrider> sudo apt-get remove proftpd???
[05:40] <EvilDin> am come one
[05:40] <Dr_Willis> VincentMX,  install some sort of X server. Like Hmm... I forget thename. :P  easier to just use VNC.
[05:40] <Frogzoo> hewhe: june 1st
[05:40] <hewhe> it says "april" at the ubuntu-linux website :P
[05:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> funkenstein: "dapper" means "polished" or "well presented"
[05:40] <EvilDin> please help to little chmod options
[05:40] <VincentMX> ok
[05:40] <ompaul> hewhe, where?
[05:40] <General_Cody> How do i change the "not so nice colored" brown background when starting gnome?
[05:40] <goofrider> VincentMX, or use FreeNX, it really rox
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> VincentMX,  or some Linux disrto + qemu on windows.
[05:41] <VincentMX> ok
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> Theres a FreeNX out for windows now? cool.
[05:41] <hewhe> ompaul: ubuntu-linux.org/about ubuntu/releases
[05:41] <goofrider> VincentMX, but I've using XDMCP from Windows b4. It works but FreeNX is actually faster
[05:41] <Frogzoo> General_Cody: system -> admin -> login screen -> gtk greeter -> background color
[05:41] <goofrider> Dr_Willis, NoMachine has always had an NX client for Windows.
[05:42] <funkenstein> uh huh... so, what'd your point?? :P
[05:42] <funkenstein> dapper
[05:42] <funkenstein>      adj : marked by smartness in dress and manners; "a dapper young
[05:42] <funkenstein>            man"; "a jaunty red hat" [syn: {dashing}, {jaunty}, {natty},
[05:42] <funkenstein>             {raffish}, {rakish}, {smart}, {spiffy}, {snappy}, {spruce}] 
[05:42] <gnomefreak> no pasting please
[05:42] <stunit77> hi
[05:42] <VincentMX> goofrider, isn't FreeNX more like vnc?
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> goofrider,  not seeing it on the freenx web site... :) let me look some more.
[05:42] <funkyHat> VincentMX, yes
[05:42] <tRSS> hey guys/gals. i used to mount my hfs+ partition (readonly, through /etc/fstab) in ubuntu and since yesterday, I am unable to mount it. It seems my hfs+ partition is somehow corrupted because now I can't even boot into os x. any ideas?
[05:42] <goofrider> Dr_Willis, http://nomachine.com
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> there we go. http://nomachine.com/
[05:42] <yayo> hola
[05:42] <George007> goofrider, u cant put username/password on shared folders with samba, can you?
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> Lol.
[05:43] <yayo> necesito ayuda
[05:43] <_jason> !es
[05:43] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:43] <goofrider> VincentMX, It's X, compressed and tunneled thru SSH
[05:43] <yayo> resulta que instale el pluginde java y ahora el browser no me quiere habrir
[05:43] <General_Cody> Frogzoo, thanks. that helped.
[05:43] <yayo> que hago para solucuionar eso
[05:43] <_jason> yayo: /join #ubuntu-es
[05:43] <stunit77> anyone her know c++ to look over my program for errors at an expert level it's a full working chat program with file transfer
[05:43] <VincentMX> funkyHat, i need something like XDMCP, you need to have a monitor on the server for vnc
[05:43] <Frogzoo> General_Cody: yw
[05:44] <Dr_Willis> Wait a sec.. FreeNX lets you see Linux desktop on the windows box.. but can it do the Other way as well?
[05:44] <goofrider> George007, go to the ubuntu wiki and read the Samba howto. Samba support user passwords
[05:44] <funkenstein> don't get me wrong, I swear by ubuntu, no doubt... and the names are better than many of the other distros/OS's and they make me chuckle... Just asking who comes up with them... although I suppose it's not a support question.... :P
[05:44] <_jason> stunit77: try ##c++
[05:44] <funkyHat> Dr_Willis, I don't think so, client only iirc
[05:44] <Dr_Willis> VincentMX,  you do NOT have to have a monitor on the server for VNC.
[05:44] <goofrider> VincentMX, FreeNX doesn't need a monitor
[05:44] <Dr_Willis> VincentMX,  VNC has a lot of nifty things you can do with it.
[05:44] <stunit77> that a channel?//
[05:44] <hewhe> i have a computer with ubuntu server (NOT default, that is) on it, and i want to use it as a desktop without a screen. I just want to log in with SSH and make the programs at my server-style ubuntu use my default-ubuntu's screen. how do i do? I just  keep getting this error: (gedit:6686): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[05:44] <stunit77> do i need ip?
[05:44] <ompaul> hewhe, thanks that will be fixed soon
[05:45] <harisund> could somebody quickly help me with a switch that allows me to copy hidden files (.<something>) through SCP?
[05:45] <hewhe> ompaul: np :D
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> I got my file server set where i vnc to  its.ip:6230   and it auto-launches vnc, and shows the GDM login.
[05:45] <BassMoY> hi all
[05:45] <Quinthius> stunit77: ip? no, /join ##c++
[05:45] <Frogzoo> harisund: cp .* newdir
[05:45] <stunit77> awesome ty
[05:45] <harisund>  Frogzoo thanks. will try that
[05:45] <BassMoY> speak spanish?
[05:45] <ompaul> !es
[05:45] <Quinthius> !es
[05:45] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:45] <harisund> FrogZoo, I want it through scp, not just cp
[05:46] <gnomefreak> its fixed already ;)
[05:46] <carthik> harisund use sshfs http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/index.php?s=sshfs
[05:46] <Frogzoo> harisund: scp .* newdir
[05:46] <goofrider> Dr_Willis, VNC uses bitmaps, FreeNX uses compressed meta API calls. The speed difference is dramatic
[05:46] <Quinthius> :(
[05:46] <goofrider> Dr_Willis, plus it's tunneled via SSH, u don't have to open yet another port to the internet (and make the system insecure)
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> goofrider,  but it wont let me see my winows on my Linux machine it seems. So for now - its not usefull to me. :) it does the opposite it seems.  But its wrth keeping an eye on.
[05:47] <GotUbuntued> Need some help with installing Azureus.... Any1 got the link to the install guide?
[05:47] <Frogzoo> harisund: probly you mean:    scp host:/blah/blah/.* host1:/blah/blah
[05:47] <harisund> Ah, sshfs seems interesting. Thanks will have a look and nget back . carthik and FrogZoo
[05:47] <irad> how do i close my kde session via konsole?
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> slowly toing to a NO-MS-ZOne here. :P *yes*
[05:47] <BassMoY> ubuntu spanish?
[05:47] <hewhe> my mind is glowing!
[05:47] <Quinthius> BassMoY: #ubuntu-es
[05:47] <Frogzoo> Dr_Willis: pron ate my xp partition :(
[05:47] <BassMoY> thanks ;-)
[05:47] <goofrider> Dr_Willis, yeah, there's no free NX server for windows yet
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> Frogzoo,  :)
[05:48] <VincentMX> goofrider, so it works like a deamon?
[05:48] <BassMoY> #ubuntu-es
[05:48] <goofrider> VincentMX, no. the NX client login usinga normal SSH shell session, then runs a script to establish the NX tunnel
[05:49] <VincentMX> ok
[05:49] <goofrider> but it's all SSH at the network layer, so it's pretty painless to administer
[05:50] <VincentMX> goofrider, and i don't need an X server on my Windose box?
[05:50] <thenuke> hmm, how did I see the whole hostname or ip of someone who is connected to my box thru ssh?
[05:50] <goofrider> VincentMX, what i mean is, sshd is the only daemon u need for FreeNX.
[05:50] <VincentMX> ok
[05:50] <goofrider> VincentMX, no, just the NX client for Windows
[05:50] <VincentMX> ok
[05:50] <_jason> goofrider: 'w' I think gives that to you
[05:50] <goofrider> VincentMX, sshd would be the only daemon needed to listen for connections
[05:51] <VincentMX> so i don't even need to have an Xserver running on my ubuntu box?
[05:51] <VanBuuren> hello
[05:52] <VincentMX> hi VanBuuren
[05:52] <goofrider> VincentMX, u'll still need X11 I think. And when u login remotely it'll spawn an X session
[05:52] <VincentMX> ok
[05:52] <VanBuuren> can any1 help me install ubuntu ?!
[05:52] <VincentMX> i can
[05:52] <ubuntu> nas
[05:52] <goofrider> but the frambuffer is on the client side
[05:52] <VanBuuren> cool
[05:52] <VincentMX> what do you need help with?
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> VanBuuren,  read the install docs yet? Got a more specific Question/issue?
[05:52] <VincentMX> ok
[05:52] <VanBuuren> i need help with partitioning my hard drive
[05:52] <nahoj> the installation is really simpel!
[05:52] <goofrider> VincentMX, just think of it as XDMCP, but compressed and tunneled in SSH
[05:53] <VincentMX> nahoj, not for everyone
[05:53] <VanBuuren> how should i do the partition?
[05:53] <ubuntu> al instalar el dapper se me borro el vmlinuz-2.6-12-9.386
[05:53] <ubuntu> el boot
[05:53] <ubuntu> se puede recuperar????
[05:53] <VincentMX> goofrider, so it will show me gdm?
[05:53] <goofrider> VincentMX, I forgot if it runs GDM or runs it's own login screen
[05:53] <VincentMX> ok
[05:53] <goofrider> VincentMX, but I think gdm IIRC
[05:54] <goofrider> VincentMX, and u can discconnect a session, keeps it running and reconnect to it later (like VNC)
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> VanBuuren,  How is your hard drive setup/configured right now?
[05:54] <goofrider> VincentMX, FreeNX is gooooooooooooooooooooood. Trust me  :)
[05:55] <hewhe> short question: what do i need to run x-dependent applications on a computer, over an SSH-tunnel? I want to use computer X to run x-programs at computers Y's screen through SSH.
[05:55] <goofrider> hewhe, FreeNX
[05:55] <goofrider> hehe
[05:55] <hewhe> :P
[05:55] <noaXess> hi all..
[05:55] <Dr_Willis> hewhe,  i tend to ssh -X to the box, then run the app. and it shows up locally.
[05:55] <Jhair> hewhe: you need to use the -X flag ssh
[05:55] <noaXess> whats the fastest way to install kde on ubunt 5.1?
[05:55] <noaXess> which package i need to install?
[05:55] <hewhe> ok. thanks :)
[05:56] <Jhair> hewhe: and be sure you don't set DISPLAY on the remote computer
[05:56] <Dr_Willis> noaXess,  'kubuntu-desktop'
[05:56] <Jhair> hewhe: ssh -X does that for you
[05:56] <hewhe> (but i dont have to use the -X flag when i log into my school)
[05:56] <alteroo> noaXess: apt-get kubuntu-desktop works
[05:56] <hewhe> what should the $DISPLAY be set to?
[05:56] <Morgan> does anyone know a good p2p program I can install for ubuntu
[05:56] <noaXess> aha.. okey.. :)
[05:56] <goofrider> oh i forgot about the -X flag
[05:56] <goofrider> LOL
[05:56] <Jhair> hewhe: don't set it, you don't need to set it when you are using a ssh tunnel
[05:56] <hewhe> :)
[05:57] <George007> mingw32 <--- isn't it in base-elements or whatever that file  I downloaded to get g++ is?
[05:57] <George007> if not... how do I get it? with a simple apt-get install?
[05:57] <hewhe> ok, i was experimenting with lots of values before.. localhost:10.0, 11.0 et.c..
[05:57] <theripper> can someone help me install the official bittorrent client ?
[05:57] <noaXess> alteroo: is it the same when i use the synaptic package manager?
[05:57] <alteroo> noaXess: sure
[05:57] <Dr_Willis> theripper,  i find that other clients  work better.
[05:57] <Dr_Willis> !bittorrent
[05:57] <ubotu> from memory, bittorrent is the BitTorrent FAQ is available at: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html
[05:58] <motin> Any tips for setting up a imap-filtering daemon? Having such, there wouldnt be any need to rely on a specific mail-application.
[05:58] <hewhe> when i use the -X flag, i still get the old error
[05:58] <hewhe> (gedit:6773): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[05:58] <theripper> dr_willis: what other clients? im using ktorrent and its the worst thing i ever seen
[05:58] <hewhe> and $DISPLAY is not set to anything :(
[05:59] <theripper> !bittorrent
[05:59] <ubotu> somebody said bittorrent was the BitTorrent FAQ is available at: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html
[05:59] <Dr_Willis> theripper,  google is our friend. --> http://www.slyck.com/bt.php?page=2
[05:59] <fyrebat> void^: thanx that package did the trick
[05:59] <hewhe> i -dont- want to install lots of useless packets.. ubuntu-desktop would perhaps do it, but there are trillions of useless programs there
[05:59] <GotUbuntued> Why do I get error message in Azureus when running a torrent file. Says it's not a bittorrent file when I know it is
[05:59] <Dr_Willis> theripper,  i tend to use Azaurus or however the $*#* its speld.
[05:59] <George007> !mingw32
[05:59] <ubotu> George007: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:59] <George007> !mig
[05:59] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, George007
[05:59] <noaXess> alteroo: okey.. install progress running :) 490mb..
[05:59] <George007> !ming
[05:59] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, George007
[05:59] <George007> bah
[05:59] <hewhe> !poop
[05:59] <ubotu> hewhe: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:59] <alteroo> noaXess: kool
[06:00] <noaXess> alteroo: i like ubuntu.. its very simple to work with it..
[06:00] <hewhe> :/
[06:00] <alteroo> noaXess: that's wat we all thing too
[06:00] <alteroo> think*
[06:00] <theripper> dr_willis: i dont use google anymore , they are part of NSA now ,
[06:00] <Dr_Willis> theripper,  whatever.....
[06:01] <hewhe> theripper: use privoxy <-> tor/i2p <-> google and erase cookies and stuff each time. that works :)
[06:01] <VanBuuren> Dr_Willis: i have one 8gb drive, and i want to partition it to install ubuntu..how should i proceed?
[06:02] <Dr_Willis> VanBuuren,   first step - BACKUP anything thats imporntant.
[06:02] <Jhair> hewhe: happens with any x program? what happens if you do ssh -vv -X -l <username> <ip address> /usr/X11R6/bin/xclock
[06:02] <Jhair> hewhe: I just tried that and it works for me
[06:02] <Dr_Willis> VanBuuren,  - next step - are you planing on Dual booting windows and Linux on that thing?
[06:02] <hewhe> ok, wait a moment please
[06:02] <VanBuuren> Dr_Willis: yea
[06:03] <Jhair> hewhe: with -vv you will get more output from ssh, if it fails try to pastebin maybe someone can figure out what happens
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> VanBuuren,  then you need to resize your existing windows partition. Not sure if the Ubuntu installer can do that. I alwyas use a 2nd hd. I would use a  Linux Live cd, that has Gparted/qtparted on it. to resize windows smaller, and leave a section of the HD 'UNallocated'
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> 8gb? please tell me that was a Typo and you ment 80gb... :P
[06:04] <fyrebat> when installing wine, I have to input the root passowrd for 'make install' I put the root pw in, and I get: 'su:Authentication failure' Anyone know if this is because you use sudo instead of su in ubuntu?
[06:04] <mmuferna> olaaaaaaaa
[06:04] <VanBuuren> Dr_Willis: i have 8gb free space.. :P
[06:04] <Jhair> fyrebat: put *your* password
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> VanBuuren,  thats NOT the same as a '8gb' hard drive. :P
[06:04] <mmuferna> magika-mld@hotm...
[06:04] <hewhe> i dont have x11r6 installed. do i really need the x server to run graphics on -other- computers?
[06:05] <tyoung> Anybody know a good app in breezy for extracting simple video clips?
[06:05] <VanBuuren> Dr_Willis: lol i know..sowwy
[06:05] <Dr_Willis> VanBuuren,  so you need to resize the hd anmd put 8gb or so in 'unallocated' space.
[06:05] <fyrebat> jhair: my root pw and login pw is the same
[06:05] <Dr_Willis> 4gb is plenty for a base install. :P
[06:05] <netcelli> hi
[06:05] <VanBuuren> Dr_Willis: and how can i do that?
[06:05] <goofrider> hewhe, yes u do. Even the graphics is shown on another computer, the code is still executed there
[06:05] <netcelli> iv'e a problem with skype :P
[06:05] <mmuferna> alguien para ablar
[06:06] <Dr_Willis> VanBuuren,  with a Live cd + Gparted/qtparted
[06:06] <hewhe> ah. so at a minimum, what packets do i need to install?
[06:06] <hewhe> thanks by the way :)
[06:06] <netcelli> someone can i help me?^^
[06:06] <Dr_Willis> Unless the installer can do that.. but no one has confirmed/denied that the installer can auto-resize the partition. :P
[06:06] <VanBuuren> Dr_Willis: i have the live cd version of ubuntu
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> VanBuuren,  ok.... so logicially , now you should see if it has gparted/qtparted then. :P
[06:07] <iGotNoTime> I have a resource in TOP that is going crazy, how do I kill that via ssh and restart the resource?
[06:07] <squiddle> netcelli  if you never state your problem, no one will ever help you
[06:07] <motin> Any tips for setting up a imap-filtering daemon? Having such, there wouldnt be any need to rely on a specific mail-application.
[06:07] <hewhe> ah, what the fock. ill just install ubuntu-desktop then :P
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> the dapper live cd - i hear has some sort of installer.. but ive never used that either.
[06:07] <AngryElf> how do i make xine disable the screensaver while a vid is playing?
[06:07] <netcelli> my mic doens't work
[06:07] <netcelli> even if it work normally
[06:07] <VanBuuren> Dr_Willis can i pvt u ?!
[06:08] <Dr_Willis> VanBuuren,  ive told ya about all you need to do. :P
[06:08] <Dr_Willis> VanBuuren,  plus i got to be going soon. Theres lots of Install docs/guides on the Ubuntu wiki/homepage
[06:08] <VanBuuren> Dr_Willis: ok thanks
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> VanBuuren,  its rather straight forward. :P
[06:09] <hewhe> if i want to remove lots of packets, for example, i want to go back to before i installed ubuntu-desktop, can i just apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop?
[06:09] <Tomcat_> hewhe: That will only remove ubuntu-desktop
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> VanBuuren,  you proberly want to backup, defrag/scandisk, befor and after resizeing the wwindows partitions.
[06:09] <Tomcat_> hewhe: Dependencies only work one way
[06:10] <VanBuuren> Dr_Willis: yea i'll do that
[06:10] <hewhe> Tomcat_: so, what should i do then? remove all of the packets one-by-one?
[06:10] <Zimx> How do i start the VIM Editor on ubuntu?
[06:10] <Jhair> hewhe: alternatively you can try debfoster and see if it get rids of the unused packages you don't want
[06:10] <Tomcat_> Zimx: "vim" on the cmdline
[06:10] <GotUbuntued> Can anyone please help me with Azureus. I've install the latest version of it + java and i get error messages when starting a torrent
[06:10] <Tomcat_> hewhe: What do you want to do?
[06:10] <Dr_Willis> or install gvim
[06:10] <Tomcat_> GotUbuntued: Better ask in #azureus ...
[06:11] <Dr_Willis> GotUbuntued,  i tend to fire up the program, and just drag/drop the .torrent file over to it.
[06:11] <hewhe> Tomcat_: i dont want trillions of programs in my computer that i dont use. but it seems that its the easiest way to make x11-forwarding over ssh to work.
[06:11] <reiki_work> I have honestly been looking for this and kind find it in Wiki or forums, but has there been a package made of the new Gutenprint 5.0 for Breezy? Would be nice to get my printer supported without the Turboprint drivers
[06:11] <Alapzaj> which package must i install, to see normal characters in ssh (example from putty)?
[06:12] <Tomcat_> hewhe: I'm sorry, that doesn't really describe what you're trying to do... x11-forwarding over ssh works immediately after installing Ubuntu + openssh-server
[06:12] <GotUbuntued> Dr_Willis, : It worked....but why doesn't it work when i double click the torrentfile?
[06:12] <Alapzaj> hi
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> GotUbuntued,  I would guess the file assocations aint correct.
[06:12] <EvilDin> HEY
[06:12] <hewhe> Alapzaj: switch to UTF-8 in your encoding. (in putty it's under the "translation"-thing)
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> GotUbuntued,  or the spaces/weird chars in the file name are confusing stuff.
[06:13] <EvilDin> why this doesn't work at me for subdirectories
[06:13] <EvilDin> find * -type d -print | xargs chmod 775
[06:13] <GotUbuntued> Dr_Willis, : where do I change assocations?
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> GotUbuntued,  no clue. :P i jsut drag and drop.
[06:13] <rexkwondo> I have laptop that I have loaded with breezy and dapper, but the same problem occurs:  sound will work upon loading the OS for the first time, but then sound either comes and go depending on some unknown factor at boot or it just stops working, period.  ALSA loads, no errors seem to be thrown, and the programs themselves work, but no sound.  Any suggestions?
[06:13] <Tomcat_> GotUbuntued: Right click on the torrent file, there you can change it.
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> GotUbuntued,  i rarely even use gnome, so ive never looked into it much.
[06:13] <GotUbuntued> Tomcat_, : tnx
[06:14] <Tomcat_> GotUbuntued: Use the azureus.sh file in your azureus installation as program.
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> GotUbuntued,  yea thers that "open with ....." thing in the menus :P Obvious eh. using tomcat_'s advice is not so obvious. Lol.
[06:14] <GotUbuntued> Tomcat_, : It's says azureus, but still doesn't work
[06:14] <EvilDin> ou come one nobody doesn't know?
[06:14] <Linuturk> !xubuntu
[06:15] <ubotu> well, xubuntu is Ubuntu using XFCE instead of Gnome for the desktop. Details here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu
[06:15] <ilvvli> java vm support ?
[06:15] <Tomcat_> GotUbuntued: Click on "Add", find Azureus and see what cmdline it has on the bottom of the panel
[06:15] <ilvvli> exit
[06:15] <ilvvli> bye
[06:15] <kitten> Arite, this wireless thing is driving me insane.  Anyone want to help me out?   Broadcom chipset, ndiswrapper, connects fine until WEP becomes part of the picture.
[06:16] <GotUbuntued> Tomcat_, : Where add? hehe
[06:16] <GotUbuntued> Tomcat_, :  azureus %U
[06:16] <Tomcat_> GotUbuntued: In the "Open With" panel.
[06:16] <Tomcat_> GotUbuntued: You got azureus in your PATH?
[06:16] <DaSkreech> hello I've installed ubuntu on a Dell XPS D233 and I can't see the sound card
[06:16] <GotUbuntued> Tomcat_, : yes
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> :P
[06:16] <DaSkreech> Any idea what I should grep out from lspci?
[06:17] <Tomcat_> GotUbuntued: Weird then. :\
[06:17] <DaSkreech> Dr_Willis: Well I tried that
[06:17] <Tomcat_> GotUbuntued: Try doing "azureus yourfile.torrent" from the cmdline.
[06:17] <DaSkreech> Dr_Willis: Then I looked for it
[06:17] <DaSkreech> Not there :)
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> The dog took it!
[06:17] <VincentMX> .join #freenx
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> Whats a XPE D233 anyway? a laptop?
[06:17] <VincentMX> Oops
[06:17] <DaSkreech> I don't see anything inside of lspci that screams Sound card!
[06:18] <DaSkreech> No a very old 233 MHz computer
[06:18] <Tomcat_> "233" sounds old. :o
[06:18] <Tomcat_> :)
[06:18] <DaSkreech> Tomcat_: Good guess :)
[06:18] <VincentMX> DaSkreech, don't throw that away, you'll get lots of money for it in about 20 years
[06:19] <kitten> That's what we said about our 8086 machines.  And still nobody wants them.
[06:19] <GotUbuntued> Tomcat_, : not a file
[06:19] <VincentMX> ok
[06:19] <DaSkreech> you would think that if it's old then there would be a higher likely hood for it to work
[06:19] <rexkwondo> you'd think
[06:19] <Tomcat_> kitten: Even amd64 is compatible, and there are emulators... so who would want a real 8086 except a museum. :P
[06:20] <VincentMX> kitten, w8 longer, people offer 5000 euros for an Apple ] [ computer on eBay
[06:20] <DaSkreech> So if it's not detected on install and I can't see it in lspci  what's step three?
[06:20] <kitten> Well, anyway, anyone have any ideas on this wireless thing?
[06:20] <rexkwondo> step 3, Windows
[06:20] <Tomcat_> GotUbuntued: I've read that error message before, but I don't really know how to fix that...
[06:20] <intuos_pen> Tomcat_: 8086 processors could still be used on applications like in kids toy robots.
[06:20] <GotUbuntued> Tomcat_, : Ok.. tnx for the help anyway :D
[06:20] <george_> hello
[06:20] <DaSkreech> rexkwondo: Tried that many times. Doesn't work
[06:21] <DaSkreech> Step 4? :-)
[06:21] <Tomcat_> intuos_pen: I pretty much believe it's cheaper to get a newer embedded processor than to buy old 8086s off eBay :P
[06:21] <rexkwondo> everybody says pclinuxos works flawlessly, try that
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> heh
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> rexkwondo,  they do?
[06:21] <DaSkreech> rexkwondo: Define everybody
[06:21] <rexkwondo> oh, yeah ,perfectly, everytime
[06:22] <rexkwondo> it's like Nirvana without all the waiting
[06:22] <intuos_pen> btw, anyone here have an experience running ubuntu on Via Epia boards? particularly enabling dri/3d in CLE266?
[06:23] <rexkwondo> if you leave your computer alone long enough, PClinuxOS installs itself and solves all your problems
[06:23] <knao> hey, im trying to build a ubuntu package
[06:23] <intuos_pen> rexkwondo: nothing beats gentoo.
[06:23] <ammbel> hola
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> it even cures global warming.
[06:23] <intuos_pen> rexkwondo: or linux from scratch even.
[06:23] <NRG88> hi, i'm getting some sort of error on logon
[06:23] <rexkwondo> i once heard that Fedora cured ED
[06:23] <Tomcat_> Gah... Fedora is NOT a cure :P
[06:24] <knao> but in the deb with I run dpkg -c all the files are -r-xr-x---
[06:24] <intuos_pen> rexkwondo: just leave a computer on a corner for years and gentoo or lfs would evolve and tells you he/she is v'ger.
[06:24] <knao> even though in the make.sh and the debian/rules:install I chmod -R u+r *
[06:24] <rexkwondo> now THAT I belive
[06:24] <NRG88> Your $HOME/.dmrc files has incorrect permissions and is being ignored. This prevents the default session and language from being saved. File should be owned by user and have 644 permission.
[06:25] <NRG88> why is this?
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> NRG88,  just delete the file and let gdm remake it.
[06:25] <NRG88> ok, thanks :)
[06:25] <rexkwondo> boy, I love Ubuntu, I just wish my sound would keep working
[06:25] <rexkwondo> arg
[06:25] <DaSkreech> rexkwondo: Everyone says he PClinuxOS works flawlessly
[06:25] <rexkwondo> that's what I heard
[06:26] <ammbel> hello
[06:26] <DaSkreech> rexkwondo: Without a sound card even!!
[06:26] <rexkwondo> well, i heard it until my sound went out
[06:26] <VincentMX> DrWillis: where can i find an irc channel for freenx?
[06:27] <d1rt> anyone know anything about how to configure to use a parallel port zip drive?
[06:27] <rexkwondo> so, have I mentioned my sound being out?
[06:27] <DaSkreech> Well apparently most Distros have an issue with this machineand sound
[06:27] <VincentMX> nm, found a channel
[06:27] <DaSkreech> I'll poke around some more
[06:27] <arnon> I got 'error informing the kernel about modifications to partition /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part1 - device or resource busy. this means linux won't know about any changes...bla bla bla...., when I am parittioning disk in the process of installing ubuntu, please help
[06:27] <DaSkreech> Bye
[06:27] <VincentMX> bye DaSkreech
[06:28] <Knorrie> arnon: most of the time you can ignore it
[06:28] <arnon> Knorrie, thanks
[06:28] <Knorrie> arnon: if you want to be sure, you can reboot the machine, so the kernel reloads the partition table
[06:28] <crimsun> rexkwondo: what's your sound issue?
[06:29] <rexkwondo> well, it loads up fine upon install, but then, upon reboot, it just doesn't make any sounds at all
[06:29] <mthakur> hi, can u suggest a ftp upload program
[06:29] <crimsun> rexkwondo: how old is the sound device?
[06:29] <arnon> Knorrie, I was ingnoring it and now I got red screen saying 'the ext3 file system creation in partiiton #1 of IDE1 master (hda) failed.'
[06:29] <rexkwondo> brand new (laptop)
[06:30] <rexkwondo> AC97 stuff
[06:30] <jmp_me> rexkwondo: try sudo chmod 666 /dev/dsp chmod 666 /dev/mixer
[06:30] <crimsun> rexkwondo: pastebin ``lspci -v && lspci -nv && cat /proc/asound/cards && amixer -c0''
[06:30] <Knorrie> arnon: just reboot and look if your *new* partition settings are there when you are at the same part of the installation
[06:31] <crimsun> jmp_me: wrong approach.
[06:31] <mthakur> swat, can u suggest a small ftp program upload
[06:31] <jmp_me> jmp_me: how come
[06:31] <Knorrie> arnon: it has to do something with the bios in combination with the kernel, they lose each others sight when you shuffle disks and partitions on the fly :)
[06:31] <Scarborough> what filename should a gimp pic be?
[06:31] <crimsun> jmp_me: the heart of the issue is not necessarily permissions on the oss emulation devices (that would only mask a deeper issue)
[06:32] <mthakur> Hello!!
[06:32] <mthakur> can u suggest a ftp upload utility?
[06:32] <VincentMX> sure, mthakur
[06:32] <goofrider> gftp?
[06:32] <mthakur> how do u load it?
[06:32] <danl> is it sad that i'd rather do this command then press up 50 times? echo "#/bin/bash" > lazy.sh && cat ~/.bash_history | grep (some command) | tail -1 >> lazy.sh && chmod +x lazy.sh && ./lazy.sh
[06:33] <VincentMX> mthakur, type gftp in an xterm?
[06:33] <geargolem> hello I have had little to no success installing graphics drivers.  I have a TNT2 AGP installed but my system doesn't recognize it.  I also have a e-GeForce MX 4000 in the box that I would like to use(AGP).  Can someone please help me?
[06:33] <crimsun> danl: yeah, but your command is flawed, since you're missing the bang.
[06:33] <danl> bang?
[06:33] <danl> ah yes
[06:33] <mthakur> thanks Vincent de Vries
[06:33] <danl> lol
[06:33] <theripper> !java
[06:33] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[06:34] <jmp_me> !javadebs
[06:34] <rexkwondo> what is a pastebin?
[06:34] <_jason> !pastebin
[06:34] <ubotu> I heard pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[06:34] <Matic`Makovec> a place where you can paste error, code, anything...
[06:35] <alteroo> _jason: check out.. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FaqOnIrc
[06:35] <alteroo> _jason: sorry ...
[06:36] <_jason> alteroo: np :)
[06:36] <alteroo> alteroo: i need sleep..
[06:36] <Knorrie> alteroo: you are talking to yourself in your sleep ;p
[06:36] <alteroo> alteroo: and its 11:36am in the morning..:-)
[06:36] <alteroo> :-)
[06:37] <geargolem> please help.
[06:37] <gnomefreak> geargolem: we need to know just a lil bit more
[06:37] <PwcrLinux> Hello :)
[06:37] <Knorrie> 18:38 <Knorrie> help me
[06:37] <Knorrie> 18:38 <ubotu> no help on me.  Use 'help' without arguments.
[06:37] <Knorrie> LOL
[06:38] <arnon> Knorrie, what should i do? abort installation and reboot ?
[06:38] <geargolem> gnomefreak, I posted above my last message
[06:38] <Knorrie> arnon: yes
[06:38] <EvilDin> do anyone have any fix-permissions script
[06:38] <EvilDin> please help
[06:38] <polpak> EvilDin, how do you mean fix-permissions ?
[06:38] <_jason> EvilDin: fix permissions?  how did you break them?
[06:38] <alteroo> geargolem: have you tried the RestrictedFormats section on the wiki?
[06:39] <geargolem> alteroo, yes
[06:39] <gnomefreak> !nvidia
[06:39] <ubotu> nvidia is, like, totally, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[06:39] <EvilDin> i need that all files are 664 and all folders 775
[06:39] <EvilDin> but thaere are many subdirectories
[06:39] <gnomefreak> EvilDin: did you man chmod?
[06:39] <EvilDin> *there
[06:39] <_jason> EvilDin: what is the parent directory?
[06:39] <EvilDin> yes
[06:39] <EvilDin> but i don't understand much
[06:40] <geargolem> gnomefreak, I followed those links several times.
[06:40] <noaXess> i have now installed kubuntu-desktop, restartet.. but see my gnome desktop.
[06:40] <PwcrLinux> !chmod
[06:40] <ubotu> somebody said chmod was a command used to change the permissions of a file or folder. see `man chmod` for a synopsis.
[06:40] <EvilDin> it is one of my public folder for webpage
[06:40] <alteroo> EvilDin: try using the -R with chmod
[06:40] <EvilDin> yes
[06:40] <_jason> noaXess: click 'sessions' at the logins creen and choose kde
[06:40] <EvilDin> but problem
[06:40] <goofrider> EvilDin, chmod -R  will apply changes to all subfolders and files
[06:40] <polpak> EvilDin,  find /path/to/parent/directory -type d | xargs chmod 755 && find /path/to/parent/directory ! -type d | xargs chmod 644
[06:40] <EvilDin> how to specific that only folders will be 775
[06:40] <noaXess> _jason: see.. sorry.. :] 
[06:41] <gnomefreak> geargolem: are you trying to use 2 video cards at same time? if not take one card out of pc and just use 1
[06:41] <polpak> EvilDin, the above command works find as long as your files don't have spaces in them
[06:41] <_jason> EvilDin: what polpak said works, he made a little typo though.  The second one should be -type f, right polpak ?
[06:41] <geargolem> gnomefreak, no I am trying to get just one to work
[06:41] <EvilDin> ouch
[06:41] <EvilDin> they may have
[06:42] <EvilDin> what if they have
[06:42] <polpak> _jason, nah.. the second part is any file that's not a directory
[06:42] <_jason> polpak: ah did not see the ! :)
[06:42] <gnomefreak> geargolem: make sure you only have 1 card inside pc if there is an onboard video card please disable it in the bios
[06:42] <david> Hello, I have problems compiling and linking Lua programs in Ubuntu. I installed all the packages, but nothing.
[06:42] <geargolem> gnomefreak, I did.  I also allocated the necessary 64 MB for the cards
[06:43] <francesco_> salve
[06:43] <polpak> EvilDin, find /path/to/parent/dir -name '* *'  will give you a list of the files that contain spaces. You'll have to do those manually
[06:43] <EvilDin> aha
[06:43] <EvilDin> ok
[06:43] <francesco_> non riesco a far andare i dvd
[06:43] <geargolem> gnomefreak, why, if I have the TNT2 installed in the agp slot would ubuntu not detect it?
[06:43] <LadyNikon> so.. i killed my ubuntu
[06:44] <LadyNikon> someone my root partitions permissions has changed
[06:44] <LadyNikon> well not somehow
[06:44] <gnomefreak> geargolem: you bios will default to an onboard card
[06:44] <LadyNikon> but i screwed them up
[06:44] <polpak> LadyNikon, what did you do?
[06:44] <EvilDin> ouch
[06:44] <LadyNikon> polpak: ran a script on phpwebsite's site
[06:44] <arnon> Knorrie, the error goes away now, thanks
[06:44] <goofrider> LadyNikon, as root?
[06:44] <freakabcd> you ran it as root??
[06:44] <freakabcd> omg!
[06:45] <polpak> LadyNikon, so what's wrong with the perms?
[06:45] <freakabcd> thats a no no
[06:45] <LadyNikon> freakabcd: no duh.
[06:45] <_jason> polpak: how about -print0 with find and then using xargs -0 for spaces?
[06:45] <freakabcd> then how did the permissions change?
[06:45] <LadyNikon> polpak: i cant get into root now
[06:45] <LadyNikon> when i reboot i cant even get it to mount root
[06:45] <_jason> LadyNikon: can you pastebin the relevant part of the php script?
[06:45] <noaXess> bye all.. and thanks.. its to to have a beer :)
[06:46] <LadyNikon> _jason:
[06:46] <Cooleo> Can I Have Some Help With Ubuntu Please?
[06:46] <LadyNikon> wget -q -O - http://phpwebsite.appstate.edu/install | sh
[06:46] <LadyNikon> thats what it has
[06:47] <LadyNikon> I probably read it wrong when it said :Special notes: It will detect if you are root or not and will run the appropriate security scripts. If you su to root, your user environment may stay set to the old user and it will not do a root install. Your system must also have the program wget for the installer to work.
[06:47] <Cooleo> Has anyone got a step by step guide for installing Wine?
[06:47] <dabaR> how does one turn off the tapping/clicking behavior of a touchpad on a laptop. I just want the touchpad to move the cursor, not to click.
[06:47] <Cooleo> Im a complete linux n00b
[06:47] <LadyNikon> Cooleo: apt-get install wine doesnt work?
[06:47] <Cooleo> Dunno :S
[06:47] <david> Hello, I have problems compiling and linking Lua programs in Ubuntu. I installed all the packages, but nothing.
[06:48] <Cooleo> What do i do when ive downloaded it?
[06:48] <PwcrLinux> dabaR: yea same mines too, I have to put my old ID card over the pad and use the USB scroll mouse to work..
[06:48] <andreetje> hi small question about installation & dual boot.
[06:48] <polpak> !justask
[06:48] <ubotu> Ask your question and we'll try to answer it.
[06:48] <goofrider> !wine
[06:49] <EvilDin> polpak what this mean by default quotes are special to xargs unless you use the -0 option
[06:49] <dabaR> PwcrLinux: mine works fine, I just do not like programs/devices that try to do too many things. If you are a mousepad, move the mouse. Buttons are for clickingh.
[06:49] <watt> Hello, I upgraded to Dapper on my laptop. I would like to upgrade my desktop too which is running breezy atm. I don't want to redownload all the packages again. Any idea of targeting my sources.list of desktop pc to the laptop?
[06:49] <VincentMX> goofrider, where can i download FreeNX? i can't find it in ubuntu's apt apt
[06:50] <theripper> this commend doesnt work for me , what should i use to make it a deb file?  fakeroot make-jpkg jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin
[06:50] <watt> of laptop to desktop*
[06:50] <_jason> ubotu: tell theripper about javadebs
[06:50] <goofrider> VincentMX, it's in universe i think
[06:50] <andreetje> ok when i install 5.10 on my laptop with windows it asks to resize windows ok
[06:50] <david> Hello, I have problems compiling and linking Lua programs in Ubuntu. I installed all the packages, but nothing.
[06:50] <andreetje> that part is clear
[06:50] <VincentMX> goofrider, i always have universe on
[06:50] <VincentMX> backports too
[06:50] <Dr_Willis> !info freenx
[06:50] <andreetje> but can i say there that i only want xx gb for ubuntu ?
[06:50] <polpak> EvilDin, you probably have files with quotes in the names
[06:51] <LadyNikon> so yeah
[06:51] <VincentMX> !info freenx
[06:51] <LadyNikon> that was fun
[06:51] <polpak> EvilDin, why are your filenames so messy?
[06:51] <EvilDin> am how do i use that -0
[06:51] <goofrider> watt, copy the sources.list to the laptop, do an apt-get update, then copy /var/cache/apt to the laptop (did i miss anything?)
[06:51] <dpm__> I'm trying to install eclipse + cdt in Breezy from the repos. Before I install 99Mb of packages, I'd like to ask how is eclipse working in Breezy and how do I go about installing the c/c++ plugin (cdt), since it is not available from the repos
[06:51] <EvilDin> children were doing therir webs
[06:51] <goofrider> !freenx
[06:51] <ubotu> it has been said that freenx is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX
[06:51] <PwcrLinux> dabaR: Yep, the breezy added the tap mouse pad features, I tried to look for tap setting need to be disabled does not in any confs.. I bet the Dapper might have a tapping addon features..
[06:51] <watt> goofrider, hope it works =)
[06:52] <dpm__> !eclipse
[06:52] <ubotu> to install eclipse please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EclipseIDE
[06:52] <_jason> EvilDin: find -type d -print0 | xargs -0 chmod 755, and the same additions for the second command polpak gave you
[06:52] <goofrider> watt, basically all your downloaded debs should be in /var/cache/apt (if I recall correctly)
[06:53] <_jason> EvilDin: cd to the right directory first or specify it in the command
[06:53] <watt> yes they are, I was hoping of making a virtual-mirror on my laptop in order to be dragged by desktop pc
[06:53] <Cin> http://rtfs.ath.cx/pub/amsnhurts.png
[06:53] <Cin> Is anyone elses that bad?
[06:54] <watt> gaim ftw =)
[06:54] <watt> amsn is written in tcl-tk which sux as GUI
[06:54] <Knorrie> arnon: have fun
[06:54] <carthik> watt, you are looking for apt-proxy
[06:55] <EvilDin> am i get on all folders not permitted
[06:55] <void^> .. goes to show what happens when you rescale bitmap fonts
[06:55] <freakabcd> watt, Cin bullcrap
[06:55] <dabaR> PwcrLinux: sorry to break it to you:) I am using dapper on the laptop, and there is no obvious feature.
[06:55] <freakabcd> http://esscc.uq.edu.au/~imran/amsn_main.jpg
[06:55] <freakabcd> see that
[06:55] <dabaR> I will look in gconf, and tell you what I find.
[06:55] <watt> carthik, thx i'll try it out.
[06:55] <George007> sudo apt-get install mingw32 now waht?
[06:56] <_jason> EvilDin: what directory are you trying to change exactly?
[06:56] <PwcrLinux> dab: Hmmm?? Dapper devs might forgot to put the features to be disabled or enabled..  shame on dapper dev.. they might release in other codename release in the future..
[06:56] <freakabcd> Cin, did you see my amsn screenshot?
[06:56] <k31th> Jesus, Ubuntu has got very popular now
[06:56] <abdul> hello
[06:56] <EvilDin> directory and all subdirectoires in /opt/lampp/htdocs/ucenci
[06:56] <blueyss> George007: why are you using mingw32?
[06:56] <Cin> freakabcd, I did.
[06:56] <George007> lol k31th
[06:56] <freakabcd> and did you drool?
[06:57] <abdul> Can anyone tell me how to skin gnome, im on the gnome-look.org site
[06:57] <freakabcd> :p
[06:57] <abdul> but i dont know how to skin it
[06:57] <George007> blueyss,  I was told it compiles cpp files into .exe so that my windows friends can open em
[06:57] <Cin> freakabcd, NEIN!
[06:57] <k31th> madness, I remember when i first used it no one had heard of it... now its massive
[06:57] <abdul> i downloaded the thing but its a .gr.tar or whatever
[06:57] <freakabcd> Cin, without aa fonts, you're looks worse than normal
[06:57] <k31th> tar.gz
[06:57] <blueyss> George007: oh, you are doing windows development on linux?
[06:57] <freakabcd> maybe you've got messed up fonts
[06:57] <cusco> abdul: extract it and read the README file
[06:57] <George007> k31th,  hehe... it's all good I guess =)
[06:57] <cusco> it says how to install it
[06:57] <k31th> George007: I guess
[06:57] <goofrider> George007, just give them your cpp files and have then compile it in Visual C++   LMAO
[06:57] <abdul> cusco, ok thank i will try that
[06:57] <_jason> EvilDin: ok well if you are sure you want to do what you are doing, use sudo before chmod
[06:58] <k31th> maybe ill install gentoo this weekend.
[06:58] <EvilDin> i did
[06:58] <George007> blueyss, I've created many cpp progs, and I guess I am gonna be doing a lot more!
[06:58] <arnon> I reboot after installation, during startup it says 'Enter runlevel:' I enter 1 and it says *entering runlevel: 1  *no more processes left in this runlevel, please help
[06:58] <George007> goofrider, that's not an option
[06:58] <_jason> EvilDin: paste the exact command you used
[06:58] <blueyss> George007: you will have to run mingw32 under wine though
[06:58] <abdul> cusco, i cant seem to find a readme file.
[06:58] <George007> blueyss,  really? well... I have wine installed
[06:58] <EvilDin> yupi
[06:58] <EvilDin> works
[06:58] <EvilDin> :D
[06:59] <blueyss> George007: ye it works like that :) i'm gonna be doing some myself pretty soon :P
[06:59] <EvilDin> sudo find * -type d -print0 | xargs -0 sudo chmod 755
[06:59] <david> Hello, I have problems compiling and linking Lua programs in Ubuntu. I installed all the packages, but nothing.
[06:59] <_jason> EvilDin: k
[06:59] <George007> blueyss, didn't work
[06:59] <EvilDin> for files
[06:59] <freakabcd> George007, mingw32 under wine? what for?
[06:59] <_jason> EvilDin: you don't need that *
[06:59] <freakabcd> you want a cross compiler?
[06:59] <EvilDin> i just use f instead d
[06:59] <MenZa> Umm.. I'm currently attempting to install Worms World Party using WINE - it asks me for a destination. What do I type in? It's trying C:\Team17\WWP now, but obviously that doesn't exist.
[06:59] <George007> freakabcd, all I want to do is compile my cpp files into a .exe file that windows users can use!
[07:00] <_jason> EvilDin: well, you can use f instead of d or you can change it to '! -type d' which does everything that is not a directory like polpak said
[07:00] <freakabcd> yeah, you wanta cross compiler.
[07:00] <George007> fine.. what do I do?
[07:00] <abdul> Hello, can anyone help me out?
[07:00] <pogie> having trouble with a GeForce 6200, after installing the driver the screen is a dark and psychadelic blue. Any ideas? (Ubuntu 5.04)
[07:00] <blueyss> freakabcd: well, you can still compile win32 programs under wine in linux and debug them at the same time
[07:00] <freakabcd> you can either do what was suggested: 'run mingw32 stuff under wine'  or setup a cross compiler where you can natively (without wine) generate win exes
[07:00] <blueyss> using winedbg
[07:01] <George007> freakabcd, I'd rather get a cross compiler then... like what?
[07:01] <abdul> HELLO ? lol
[07:01] <abdul> anyone
[07:01] <gnomefreak> i thought there was a ming package for ubuntu
[07:01] <abdul> how do i skin gnome
[07:01] <gnomefreak> !info mingw
[07:01] <EvilDin> it works now
[07:01] <MenZa> abdul: http://art.gnome.org
[07:01] <EvilDin> _jason do you have msn
[07:01] <MenZa> I believe they have guide.s
[07:01] <MenZa> guides*
[07:01] <_jason> EvilDin: nope
[07:01] <EvilDin> i would from time to time need some help
[07:01] <EvilDin> :d
[07:02] <_jason> EvilDin: just come here, lots of helpful people
[07:02] <jeff_> hey guys
[07:02] <jeff_> does anybody know where the gdm themes are kept?
[07:02] <George007> so.... freakabcd / blueyss  what is it oging to be?
[07:03] <jeff_> the folder that i can find the gnome logon screens
[07:03] <abdul> MenZa, i know i can find the stuff, but i dont know how to install them.
[07:03] <EvilDin> i unusual coem
[07:03] <gnomefreak> there is a mingw32 for ubuntu ;)
[07:03] <blueyss> George007: personally i would rather compile using mingw under wine, then you can be sure it will also compile properly under windows
[07:03] <EvilDin> come
[07:03] <goofrider> George007, real dev read docos
[07:03] <goofrider> http://www.mingw.org/
[07:03] <chris> DBO here?
[07:03] <MenZa> Oh, INSTALL them.
[07:04] <jeff_> does anybody know where i can find the folder that has the gdm themes?
[07:04] <chris> can someone help me with apache ?
[07:04] <George007> blueyss,  I have wine, and I have mingw... what do I do now?
[07:04] <abdul> MenZa, yes i don tknow how to do that
[07:04] <George007> I already downloaded ming32 gnomefreak
[07:04] <MenZa> abdul: drag the tar.gz into your theme manager, abdul.
[07:04] <chris> i want to make apache have read and write the folder
[07:04] <abdul> MenZa, ok i will give that a try
[07:04] <MenZa> :)
[07:04] <gnomefreak> i would think since its an app under ubuntu you wouldnt need wine to use it
[07:05] <jeff_> oh you guys are talking about programming in linux?
[07:05] <blueyss> George007: install mingw, then run it, passing the files you are compiling
[07:05] <abdul> MenZa, it says 'file format invalid'
[07:05] <jeff_> does anybody have any tips for getting started programming in linux?
[07:05] <MenZa> Umm.. I'm currently attempting to install Worms World Party using WINE - it asks me for a destination. What do I type in? It's trying C:\Team17\WWP now, but obviously that doesn't exist.. I'm really confused what do to here.
[07:05] <rox> i've found one thing about ubuntu ... packages aren't very well tested ... is there a testing community around?
[07:05] <oskude> chris, apache runs as user/group "www-data"...
[07:05] <MenZa> abdul: eh? Weird. Works for me :s
[07:05] <MenZa> rox: #ubuntu+1
[07:05] <George007> blueyss, let's do it step by step... I did sudo apt-get install mingw32 ... now waht?
[07:05] <blueyss> gnomefreak: you will still need wine to debug it
[07:05] <abdul> MenZa, hmm i wonder why it wotn work for me. Is there another way?
[07:05] <rox> MenZa: cheers, mate
[07:05] <chris> oskude its in my /home/chris folder the www folder
[07:06] <MenZa> abdul: most likely, but none that I'm aware of, since I never needed to do so :)
[07:06] <MenZa> rox: not at all.
[07:06] <blueyss> George007: thats a ubuntu package.
[07:06] <George007> blueyss, also I have wine setup and running 100%... I have a file on the desktop called cipher.cpp how do I compile that?
[07:06] <chris> oskude whats the command to edit the configuration file for apache
[07:06] <rox> MenZa: what do you mean, Sir?
[07:06] <watt> George007, use gcc++
[07:07] <MenZa> rox: not at all, as in "no problem" :)
[07:07] <George007> blueyss, bah.......... I dont need wine then.. do I? and anyway mingw32 cipher.cpp doesn't work
[07:07] <oskude> chris, nano is one of those...
[07:07] <George007> Command not found watt
[07:07] <abdul> Darn!
[07:07] <rox> MenZa: ah, cheers
[07:07] <watt> sudo apt-get install gcc++
[07:07] <chris> oskude could we do a private chat?
[07:07] <abdul> Does anyone else know how i can skin ubuntu, dragging into theme manager doesnt seem to work/...
[07:07] <George007> do I remove mingw32 watt ?
[07:08] <MenZa> lol
[07:08] <rmbell> anyone know anything about initrd editting?
[07:08] <MenZa> Err, that wasn't supposed to go in here. Sorry.
[07:08] <LeaChim> Heya guys, anyone know how i can install ubuntu onto a machine with 32meg of ram? installer fails - it runs out of memory :P
[07:08] <George007> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Apr  7 21:59:25 2006
[07:08] <George007>  <-- WTH?
[07:08] <watt> What for? I only asked on how to compile the .cpp file
[07:08] <oskude> chris, 1,99 / min ;) just pm me...
[07:08] <chris> oskude :/
[07:08] <rmbell> leachim: i got the same problem
[07:08] <blueyss> George007: go to http://www.mingw.org/download.shtml and download the win32 mingw binaries
[07:08] <George007> watt, compile it to .exe (aka windows app)
[07:08] <LeaChim> rmbell, any thoughts on how to fix it?
[07:08] <rox> watt: i suggest using g++
[07:09] <watt> ^_^
[07:09] <rmbell> im in the process of trying to figure it out, but so far not too much luck
[07:09] <rox> rmbell: maybe you should read the manpage of the update-rc.d tool
[07:09] <gnomefreak> watt: g++ very easy to use and get
[07:09] <blueyss> George007: or if your mingw ubuntu package works use that
[07:09] <Usayd> yo
[07:09] <George007> blueyss, I did the apt-get install .... after that what should I do?
[07:09] <oskude> chris, yes, you may "private chat" me...  just pm me...
[07:09] <rox> watt: allthough, if you have a single cpp file, i sort of doubt it would be of any use
[07:10] <chris> oskude i am not sure how to pm you, pm me :)
[07:10] <selinium> is there a search available to look up 64bit apps? I am thinking of install 64bit when dapper arrives. Also I understand you can creat a 32bit chroot on a 64bit system, does this mean you can still run 32bit programs whilst booted to 64bit?
[07:10] <Zimx> Hi, does anyone use Radrails on Ubuntu?
[07:10] <synrat> does anyone know how to increase ulimit for open files
[07:10] <synrat> i added
[07:10] <blueyss> George007: use g++ to compile c++ files and gcc to compile c files
[07:10] <synrat> *               soft    nfile            10240
[07:10] <synrat> *               hard    nfile            10240
[07:10] <synrat> to limits.conf
[07:10] <Snook> Hi
[07:10] <synrat> but it doesn't seem to have any effect
[07:10] <oskude> chris, yeah right, then find it out...
[07:11] <George007> blueyss, they compile, and end up getting .out files.. I want to have .exe files that windows users can use..........
[07:11] <gnomefreak> selinium: yes you can run 32 bit apps on a 64 bit kernel using chroot but i personally dont think its worth it
[07:11] <goofrider> George007, http://www.mingw.org/MinGWiki/index.php/build%20a%20Win32%20x-compiler%20for%20Linux
[07:11] <blueyss> George007: g++ -o <filename.exe>
[07:11] <void^> ....
[07:11] <thecrazymonk86> does anyone know if xgl/compiz works with badger?, i tried to install the new cube thing and it said compiz doesnt exist...
[07:11] <gnomefreak> thecrazymonk86: it does not
[07:11] <chris> oskude i have to register
[07:11] <thecrazymonk86> what shoudl i use?
[07:11] <chris> :/
[07:12] <abdul> what is the format for themes in gnome?
[07:12] <George007> will that work blueyss ?
[07:12] <George007> goofrider, I'll look into it
[07:12] <gnomefreak> you cant use xgl on breezy it only works on dapper adn dapper isnt "stable" yet
[07:12] <thecrazymonk86> oh ok
[07:12] <thecrazymonk86> thanks
[07:12] <thecrazymonk86> i figured that was the problem
[07:13] <blueyss> George007: use man g++ to view the documentation
[07:13] <thecrazymonk86> whats the most recent release?
[07:13] <thecrazymonk86> 6.06?
[07:13] <goofrider> blueyss, gcc can link exe out-of-the-box?
[07:13] <chris> how do i set my apache to read and right with no permissions required
[07:13] <blueyss> George007: normally g++ -o myfile.exe file1.cpp file2.cpp
[07:13] <rox> thecrazymonk86: that is an alpha releease
[07:13] <blueyss> goofrider: yes
[07:13] <rox> thecrazymonk86: th latest stable release is breezy
[07:14] <goofrider> blueyss, didn't know that, that's kewl
[07:14] <George007> kk blueyss
[07:14] <thecrazymonk86> alright, thanks
[07:14] <ferran_> como puedo oir un archivo de radio .ram ?
[07:14] <blueyss> goofrider: well, gcc simply invokes the linker internally
[07:15] <blueyss> goofrider: simplifies the process of compiling/linking
[07:15] <synrat> does anyone know how to increase ulimit for open files ?
[07:15] <rmbell> is there anything you can cut from the installers initrd?
[07:15] <rmbell> cause i need to shrink it a bit
[07:15] <blueyss> goofrider: and if you are lazy like me, you would use the autotools, make, configure etc
[07:16] <polpak> !tell ferran_ about es
[07:16] <theripper> i need help with java , i already looked at the help links
[07:16] <goofrider> what about java?
[07:17] <theripper> im trying to inatall it
[07:17] <goofrider> !java
[07:17] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[07:17] <theripper> it doesnt work like it sais in the links
[07:17] <goofrider> theripper, did u follow the instructions?
[07:17] <RageMax> anyone know how to get/install the fluendo mp3 plugin?
[07:17] <theripper> yes
[07:17] <blueyss> George007: btw, using the ubuntu mingw32 package, the c++ compiler binary is called i586-mingw32msvc-g++. so you would compile like: i586-mingw32msvc-g++ -o file.exe file1.cpp file2.cpp
[07:18] <goofrider> theripper, what did u do and where did it break?
[07:18] <tonyyarusso> Any way to strip Ubuntu down and install it on a USB stick?  I tried DSL but it doesn't detect my ethernet card, so no internet :(
[07:19] <theripper> goofrider: fakeroot make-jpkg jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin, this command doesnt work
[07:19] <polpak> theripper, what's the error?
[07:19] <abdul> HELLO
[07:19] <blueyss> George007: you will still need to use wine to debug the programs though, or windows
[07:19] <polpak> !caps
[07:19] <ubotu> FYI, typing in ALL CAPS is considered to be 'yelling', and therefore rude behaviour.
[07:20] <theripper> goofrider: bash: fakeroot: command not found
[07:20] <goofrider> theripper,  did u 'sudo apt-get install fakeroot java-package java-common'
[07:20] <Pupeno> Hello (from a fresh installed Kubuntu).
[07:20] <abdul> need help on installing a them mates
[07:20] <dpm__> does anyone know how to install the cdt plugin for eclipse?
[07:20] <felipe_> Hello, I'm having trouble installing Ubuntu. When I reach the second part of the installation I get a message that says "Critical Temperature Reached (107C)" and then the computer shuts down. I have the case open right now and the fan is working all right. I don't know why I'm having this problem. Any ideas?
[07:21] <felipe_> Im in the live cd btw
[07:21] <theripper> goofrider: i did
[07:21] <Pupeno> I have "Added the EuroSign to the E key", how do I use that ?
[07:21] <polpak> theripper, if you did then it should have no trouble finding fakeroot
[07:21] <polpak> theripper, try it again
[07:21] <_jason> theripper: just use the javadebs that are already made in seveas' repo
[07:21] <goofrider> theripper, and it didn't complete properly othwerwise fakeroot would've been there
[07:21] <tonyyarusso> felipe_: Does the system actually feel hot to the touch or does it seem okay?
[07:21] <theripper> goofrider: but i got this error when installing E: Couldn't find package java-package
[07:22] <sfar> bajs
[07:22] <polpak> theripper, run the command goofrider gave.. you're missing some packages
[07:22] <goofrider> theripper, from the FAW  "If you get an error when installing java-package, you need to enable the multiverse repository (see AddingRepositoriesHowto)."
[07:22] <felipe_> tonyyarusso, I don't dare to touch the cooler under the fan while the pc is on...
[07:22] <goofrider> theripper, pls read the FAQ
[07:22] <goofrider> !java
[07:22] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[07:22] <MisterN> hi
[07:23] <_jason> MisterN: hello
[07:23] <theripper> ok , thank you
[07:23] <felipe_> tonyyarusso, but windows doesn't complain.....I'm guessin that linux is reading wrongly de temperature
[07:23] <goofrider> to add multivese see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[07:23] <abdul> _jason, can you help me install a theme
[07:23] <tonyyarusso> felipe_: Just the box in general.  If it's 107 you should be able to tell.
[07:23] <usuario> #irc-hispano
[07:23] <_jason> ubotu: tell abdul about themes
[07:23] <Hagge_> Does anyone use alsa together with a SB live/audigy card with a live drive / optical output?
[07:24] <felipe_> tonyyarusso, no way I just touched the metal thing under the fan and it feels cold
[07:24] <tonyyarusso> felipe_: Okay.  Have you checked forums and such for you model computer to see if anyone has had something similar?
[07:25] <dpm__> nevermind, I found out how -> http://download.eclipse.org/tools/cdt/releases/eclipse3.1/
[07:25] <goofrider> tonyyarusso, re: USB stick. I'd copy all the files on the live cd to the USB stick then install SYSLINUX
[07:25] <felipe_> I'm trying to search right now but I'm not sure if its me or the forums, but I dont get anywhere
[07:25] <abdul> _jason, i dont understand
[07:25] <abdul> _jason, im new at this
[07:25] <tonyyarusso> goofrider: I need it under 128M, btw.  How would I go about "install SYSLINUX"?
[07:25] <oskude> felipe_, have you tried google with the exact error message ?
[07:26] <_jason> abdul: ok, did you download a nice theme from gnome-look.org or art.gnome.org yet?
[07:26] <felipe_> oskude, No, I'll give it a try.
[07:26] <haGGis> how do i install Nvida drivers
[07:26] <abdul> _jason, yes i download a theme which is in tar.gz format from gnome-look.org
[07:26] <_jason> !nvidia
[07:26] <ubotu> [nvidia]  at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[07:26] <Bintle> !tell tonyyarusso about syslinux
[07:26] <goofrider> tonyyarusso, SYSLINUX is a bootloader just like lilo and grub, but simpler
[07:26] <abdul> _jason, i tried dragging it into theme manager but i got an error
[07:26] <BaltaisSuns> !ati
[07:26] <_jason> abdul: what error?
[07:26] <ubotu> ati is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[07:27] <BaltaisSuns> mmm, nice
[07:27] <tonyyarusso> Bintle: Got a second try for that?
[07:27] <oskude> felipe_, and when it shut downs, does it do that cleanly, like stopping all services first ? or just reboot ? sure its "linux" that makes to reboot ? and not bios ? just ideas, never heard such thing, sry
[07:27] <abdul> _jason, it says 'file format invalid'
[07:27] <goofrider> tonyyarusso, and I don't thinnk u can readily strip the Ubuntu live CD down
[07:27] <tonyyarusso> goofrider: Ah.  Wiki reference for doing it perhaps?
[07:27] <haGGis> Whats XMMS
[07:27] <_jason> abdul: can you link me to the theme you tried?
[07:27] <juanca> hello everyone
[07:27] <abdul> Ok i will
[07:27] <goofrider> tonyyarusso, go to the SYSLINUX homepage. ask google
[07:27] <tonyyarusso> goofrider: There's a wiki page about customizing it, so it can be done, but it sounded complicated.
[07:27] <_jason> haGGis: mp3 player
[07:28] <tonyyarusso> goofrider: Okay.
[07:28] <blueyss> !tell haGGis about xmms
[07:28] <apokryphos> Hagge_: a very bad one :P
[07:28] <goofrider> tonyyarusso, customizing the live cd would be pretty involved
[07:28] <luis_> in windows I used to press ctrl+alt and a key to print its third symbol. how can I do this in linux?
[07:28] <haGGis> kool
[07:28] <blueyss> xmms is the best music app tbh
[07:28] <tonyyarusso> goofrider: That's what it sounded like.
[07:28] <abdul> _jason, http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=37461
[07:28] <felipe_> oskude, No info on google. it shuts down in the middle of the second part of the installation, it stops all services first
[07:28] <watt> shit! my laptop is drunk, just threw half a bottle of vodka on it >.<
[07:28] <apokryphos> blueyss: you have gotta be kidding
[07:28] <tonyyarusso> goofrider: It would be nice if I could pick and choose more easily somehow.
[07:28] <goofrider> tonyyarusso, u might as well copy a live Ubuntu HDD install onto the USB stick and use UnionFS (YMMV)
[07:29] <felipe_> oskude, I have a 3.2 Ghz HT processor, does linux support HT?
[07:29] <Hagge_> apokryphos: K, couldn't get my sound to work
[07:29] <blueyss> apokryphos: well, between xmms and noxmms i have no needs musically :)
[07:29] <goofrider> tonyyarusso, if u want a modular live CD, try slax
[07:29] <Hagge_> but it doesn't seem like my livedrive is working at all
[07:29] <Hagge_> what is the correct way to set options for a module in ubuntu?
[07:29] <haGGis> _jason: lookin at gnome-look.org. whot prgram allows the widgets at the bottom of menus like OSX
[07:29] <Hagge_> hagge@c-20c670d5:/etc/modprobe.d$ more snd_emu10k1.modprobe
[07:29] <Hagge_> options snd-emu10k1x extin=0x3fff extout=0x7fff
[07:29] <apokryphos> blueyss: have you tried all the others?
[07:29] <Hagge_> is what i have
[07:29] <apokryphos> honestly
[07:29] <_jason> haGGis: gdesklets probably
[07:29] <tonyyarusso> goofrider: Whoa, okay, that went over my head.  live HDD install?  Isn't that redundant?  Don't recognize UnionFS or "YMMV" either.
[07:29] <Hagge_> but I don't know if that is how it should be done
[07:30] <blueyss> apokryphos: pretty much ye, but i'm a minimalist kind of person, i try to avoid bloat if i can
[07:30] <oskude> felipe_, yes, but not the default kernel that comes with installation
[07:30] <haGGis> kool that easy to install make life lost easyer lol
[07:30] <goofrider> tonyyarusso, well, try slax if u want modular or Damn Small Linux if u want small
[07:30] <apokryphos> blueyss: bloat is quite subjective, I assure you.
[07:30] <tonyyarusso> goofrider: Bah, not redundant.  Contradictory I meant.
[07:30] <_jason> abdul|linuxnewbi: the reason it isn't working is because it isn't archived properly.  If you really want this one I can walk you through it, want to do that?
[07:31] <tonyyarusso> goofrider: DSL didn't work though, which is why I was hoping for Ubuntu's hardware detection.
[07:31] <felipe_> oskude, I know how to intall the i686 kernel once the installation is done. Is there a way to shut down the service that checks for temperature?
[07:31] <oskude> felipe_, can you deactivate that temperature sensor in bios ? (if youre sure the fan is working)
[07:31] <goofrider> tonyyarusso, the live CD is an read-only image of a live HDD install
[07:31] <blueyss> apokryphos: each to their own :)
[07:31] <tonyyarusso> goofrider: Ah.
[07:31] <Dr_Willis> Live cd's are one of those COOL things that are becoming very good/popular/handy/powerfull.
[07:31] <haGGis> _jason: u got any links to that program or how to install it
[07:31] <abdul|linuxnewbi> _jason, yes
[07:31] <_jason> haGGis: what xmms?\
[07:31] <Dr_Willis> a thing that 5 years ago - people were not even thinking much of.
[07:31] <apokryphos> blueyss: indeed, and as I say -- that's the only grounding, really, that one can lay on when trying to ever defend it. "I just like it".
[07:31] <felipe_> oskude, I could try that, I'm pretty sure the fan is working, I'm watchin it right now
[07:31] <goofrider> tonyyarusso, so in order to create a custom one, u have to have a live HDD install working  :)
[07:32] <oskude> felipe_, i think HT needs a *-smp kernel
[07:32] <tonyyarusso> goofrider: Okay.
[07:32] <felipe_> smp kernel?
[07:32] <haGGis> _jason: no the menus that work like OSX
[07:32] <oskude> !smp
[07:32] <ubotu> smp is, like, Symmetric Multi Processing. The x86 architecture way of using multiple CPUs in one computer.
[07:32] <abdul|linuxnewbi> _jason,  how about this one : http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=37533
[07:32] <blueyss> apokryphos: totally agree, it's a personal choice, thats whats so great about linux :)
[07:32] <felipe_> oskude, smp kernel?
[07:32] <abdul|linuxnewbi> _jason,  walk me through that one please.
[07:32] <EvilDin> am does anyone here know proftpd
[07:32] <oskude> felipe_, ubotu just said...
[07:33] <Bintle> !patient
[07:33] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Bintle
[07:33] <Bintle> !patients
[07:33] <ubotu> Bintle: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:33] <EvilDin> i need to set it that some users have only acess to specific folder and no else
[07:33] <Dr_Willis> !ask
[07:33] <ubotu> Just ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model, outputs of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl is important.
[07:33] <Bintle> grr
[07:33] <Dr_Willis> :P
[07:33] <apokryphos> blueyss: it's good when the choice is put to use; it's bad when people don't investigate and try out a few new things. To take the case of xmms, saying that "it's like winamp so I like it; I just like it", and not consider other things.
[07:33] <theripper> !javadebs
[07:33] <_jason> abdul|linuxnewbi: ok is it on your desktop now?
[07:33] <apokryphos> that's clearly not very...... ideal
[07:33] <felipe_> oskude, Ok. Is the smp kernel as easy to install as the i686?
[07:33] <abdul|linuxnewbi> yes i downloaded the tar.gz file
[07:33] <Bintle> !install
[07:33] <ubotu> Installing Ubuntu? See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation Installing software on Ubuntu? See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingSoftware
[07:33] <abdul|linuxnewbi> _jason, yes
[07:33] <apokryphos> felipe_: install from synaptic, yes.
[07:34] <_jason> abdul|linuxnewbi: right click on it and press 'extract here'
[07:34] <felipe_> apokryphos, cool
[07:34] <daan> ehh guys, i gota a problem here and i've been working for about a day now to fix it, still doesn't work, maybe anybody here could help me? i tried to run world of warcraft with wine, but when i use $ wine WoW.exe, i get the following error: wine: Call from 0x5ed09ec5 to unimplemented function KERNEL32.dll.IsWow64Process, aborting
[07:34] <abdul|linuxnewbi> _jason, ok i did that
[07:34] <miriam> ciaoo
[07:34] <blueyss> apokryphos: ye, i've tried quite a few, i must admit i do like the amount of plugins for xmms as well.
[07:34] <oskude> felipe_, apt-cache show linux-686-smp
[07:34] <_jason> Bintle: please don't do that
[07:34] <miriam> qualche italiano??
[07:34] <Dr_Willis> daan,  ive ran WoW with Cedega - Not sure wine can run WoW at all. better check the various Wine Message boards/Forums/WIkis.
[07:34] <apokryphos> !it
[07:35] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[07:35] <_jason> abdul|linuxnewbi: ok, now open nautilus: places > home
[07:35] <miriam> ubo  la prima volta che entro che uso linux come si fa??
[07:35] <Dr_Willis> daan,  highly possible thats some DirectX call that the normal wine is not doing, that cedega can.
[07:35] <blueyss> apokryphos: things like the lirc, crystalizer, crossfade and quite a few others, i find to live without :P
[07:35] <blueyss> hard*
[07:35] <Pupeno> I have "Added the EuroSign to the E key", how do I put the euro character now ?
[07:36] <abdul|linuxnewbi> _jason, nautilus? its just a folder directory right?
[07:36] <daan> Dr_Willis okay thanks i'll try Cadega, do you have any link with a download and maybe a howto in it?
[07:36] <felipe_> oskude, I think Il try deactivating in the bios the temperature check and install ubuntu
[07:36] <apokryphos> blueyss: I don't know what the first two are, but the third is pretty standard, and I expect the other apps still have those features/plugins/scripts available. Needless to say, I don't know why you wouldn't just use beep if you reaally like xmms
[07:36] <apokryphos> it's a prettified xmms; no ugly x-menu trash etc
[07:37] <oskude> felipe_, or if i knew, i would find what reads the temperature in ubuntu and correct that...
[07:37] <apokryphos> well, as pretty as GTK can get :P
[07:37] <blueyss> apokryphos: i do actually like beep, but then again it's based on the xmms source code. i could use either really i guess they are so much alike
[07:38] <apokryphos> yup, I know.
[07:38] <Hagge_> bwah, I saw I used a regular dash but no luck with:
[07:38] <Dr_Willis> daan,  its not free. theres a demo however. it used to be known as "WineX" google for it.
[07:38] <Hagge_> $ cat /etc/modprobe.d/snd_emu10k1.modprobe
[07:38] <Hagge_> options snd_emu10k1x extin=0x3fff extout=0x7fff
[07:38] <_jason> abdul|linuxnewbi: yeah, nautilus is the file browser.  Now press ctrl-h and you should see hidden stuff.  If the '.themes' directory does not exist, create it.
[07:38] <Hagge_> either
[07:38] <apokryphos> blueyss: have you tried out amarok and/or JuK, or Rhythmbox?
[07:38] <daan> Dr_Willis, ehm okay, what's the price on the full version?
[07:39] <watt> apokryphos, KDE fanboi =p
[07:39] <Hagge_> amarok > *
[07:39] <apokryphos> and proud :P
[07:39] <abdul|linuxnewbi> _jason,  it does exsist
[07:39] <blueyss> apokryphos: i've tried them all, i like juk the best out of those 3. It's quite lightweight and nice to use
[07:39] <apokryphos> Hagge_: touche
[07:39] <Dr_Willis> daan,  $5 a mo. check the web site. :P
[07:39] <Hagge_> amarok is lightweight enough ;/
[07:39] <molinero> !compiz
[07:39] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, molinero
[07:39] <blueyss> apokryphos: although it does require qt :/
[07:39] <apokryphos> blueyss: yes, I'd use that if I didn't want something as much as amaroK (which I think can be a fair criticism to an extent)
[07:39] <molinero> !xgl
[07:39] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[07:39] <daan> Dr_Willis, sounds promising =) thank you mate
[07:40] <Hagge_> qt is good
[07:40] <apokryphos> blueyss: you're low on space? :)
[07:40] <_jason> abdul|linuxnewbi: great, double click to open it.  Then go back to your desktop and open the .themes folder that is there.  Then copy the folder called 'Ubuntulooks-Orange-smooth' to your .themes in your home directory that you opened before
[07:40] <blueyss> apokryphos: well, not really, i'm just picky when it comes to bloat :P
[07:40] <apokryphos> blueyss: you think it's bloated? :)
[07:40] <Hagge_> now someone get my spdif or optical output on my livedrive running please
[07:40] <Hagge_> !
[07:40] <ubotu> Hagge_: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:40] <blueyss> apokryphos: qt takes quite a while to compile on gentoo :P
[07:41] <luis_> in windows I used to press ctrl+alt and a key to print its third symbol. how can I do this in linux?
[07:41] <Hagge_> ubotu: i don't understand what you said but i'll watch ;D
[07:41] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Hagge_
[07:41] <apokryphos> blueyss: everything takes quite some time to compile on gentoo :P
[07:41] <Dr_Willis> daan,  i enede up booting back to windows to run WoW however.. too many little annoying issues with WoW+Cedega
[07:41] <_jason> ubotu: tell Hagge_ about yourself
[07:41] <ernz> Hi people
[07:41] <blueyss> apokryphos: heh :)
[07:41] <daan> Dr_Willis, ehm issues like?
[07:41] <ernz> I know that I can use Synaptic to install new apps
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> daan,  check the forums/wiki.. all sorts of just annoying things.. enough to be a bother. every patch of WoW seemed to break somthing else.
[07:42] <ernz> But a lot of the things I want are in tar.gz files. If I extract these Tar.Gx files, there is not executable inside, is anyone able to take a minute out and explain this to me please?
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> daan,  what video card ya got anyway?
[07:42] <George007> !themes
[07:42] <Hagge_> ubotu: no hits for either of audigy livedrive, livedrive, audigy optical
[07:42] <ubotu> Hagge_: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:42] <daan> Dr_Willis, GeForce 6800 LE
[07:42] <blueyss> apokryphos: it's mostly because i'm used to a streamlined (gentoo + flux) box.
[07:42] <_jason> Hagge_: ubotu is a bot
[07:42] <ernz> Tar.Gz sorry*
[07:42] <daan> Dr_Willis, *Leadtec
[07:42] <Bintle> !livewire
[07:42] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Bintle
[07:42] <tonyyarusso> ernz: Sure.
[07:42] <Hagge_> _jason: doesn't matter ;)
[07:43] <apokryphos> Bintle: limewire :)
[07:43] <tonyyarusso> ernz: What sorts of things, to start with?
[07:43] <Bintle> !limewire
[07:43] <ubotu> first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila. Consider !frostwire as an alternative.
[07:43] <ernz> Thanks tonyyarusso
[07:43] <apokryphos> blueyss: if it works for you... ;-)
[07:43] <ernz> Just the basics of how apps work within Ubuntu
[07:43] <abdul|linuxnewbi> _jason, when i extracted the tar.gz folder with the theme it showed a folder called user; inside is : share/themes/Ubuntulooks-Orange-smooth  and two other folders, i dont see a .theme folder
[07:43] <Bintle> !frostwire
[07:43] <George007> !theme
[07:43] <hellz_hunter> im having issues getting raid0 setup on ubuntu installation
[07:43] <ernz> I ahve played with linux in the past, but have always be deterred by certain features
[07:43] <apokryphos> like?
[07:43] <ernz> There is very little to dislike about Ubuntu
[07:43] <daan> Dr_Willis, don't tell me that can be an issue too :p
[07:43] <_jason> abdul|linuxnewbi: ok, just copy Ubuntulooks-Orange-smooth to your .themes
[07:44] <abdul|linuxnewbi> _jason, ok i did that
[07:44] <_jason> abdul|linuxnewbi: now go to system > prefs > themes and it should be there
[07:44] <ernz> tonyyarusso: Tar.Gz extraction in particular,
[07:44] <Hagge_> hellz_hunter: without a real controller?
[07:44] <boabsta> hi all, i try to update my ubuntu box but linux-image-386 and linux-restricted-modules-386 are being kept back, anyone know why or what I should do?
[07:44] <tonyyarusso> ernz: Okay, most apps are available with Synaptic.  If you don't see them right away, you might be able to add additional repos to get them through that (with apt).  This method accesses precompiled packages, detects all sorts of information automatically, and installs for you, the ideal scenario, but...
[07:44] <Hagge_> hellz_hunter: also why do you want to double the chance that your data is ruined?
[07:44] <apokryphos> Bintle: np
[07:45] <Dr_Willis> daan,  nvidia is good.. ati bad.
[07:45] <abdul|linuxnewbi> _jason, its not there, do i have to restart ?
[07:45] <luis_> on my keyboard, some keys have symbols which you have to type shift+key to insert it. but some have a third symbol, how can I insert it?! plz help!
[07:45] <watt> Dr_Willis, -.-
[07:45] <ernz> tonyyarusso: cool - go on...
[07:45] <MisterN> luis_: altgr?
[07:45] <polpak> erez, a tar file is simply an archive containing many files. gz just means it's been compressed using the gzip program. Anything can be inside a tar file depending on who made it and why
[07:45] <ubuntu> c encore moi
[07:45] <daan> Dr_Willis, heheh okay
[07:45] <luis_> MisterN: 
[07:45] <luis_> MisterN: oh thx!
[07:45] <_jason> abdul|linuxnewbi: go to details and look at controls and window border, it should be there
[07:45] <blueyss> boabsta: could be your source list
[07:45] <luis_> :)
[07:46] <ubuntu> j'ai un problaime avec la commande mount
[07:46] <ubuntu> sudo mount /dev/hda3 ~/linux
[07:46] <polpak> !fr
[07:46] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[07:46] <ubuntu> il ne veux pas
[07:46] <daan> brb
[07:46] <ernz> polpak - thanks, so does Ubuntu even use Executables?
[07:46] <ubuntu> sori i donc see
[07:46] <ubuntu> sory
[07:46] <abdul|linuxnewbi> oh ok i found it
[07:46] <polpak> ubuntu, np
[07:46] <abdul|linuxnewbi> _jason, thanks alot jason
[07:46] <molinero> !mono
[07:46] <ubotu> hmm... mono is implementation of .NET framework on linux.  For details http://www.go-mono.com
[07:46] <polpak> erez, there are executable files yes
[07:46] <_jason> abdul|linuxnewbi: np
[07:46] <apokryphos> Bintle: better to talk/ask in here
[07:46] <tonyyarusso> ernz: Sometimes you need something that nobody has compiled and packaged for Ubuntu yet.  In this case, you are given just the uncompiled source code, in the form of a .tar.gz.  For these, you have to do the compiling and installing on your own.  This can be a bit tricky, but a quick wiki read will get you well on your way.  For important parts of that process, /msg ubotu for information on compile, checkinstall, and b-e.
[07:47] <apokryphos> Bintle: you can /msg ubotu list
[07:47] <ernz> E R N Z << EXE's?
[07:47] <abdul|linuxnewbi> _jason, your the best mon, i really appreciate it
[07:47] <Hagge_> !optical_digital_output_of_sb_audigy_livedrive_using_alsa_pretty_please
[07:47] <ubotu> I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, Hagge_
[07:47] <_jason> abdul|linuxnewbi: most themes should work jsut by dragging, but this one wasn't put in the tar.gz correctly.  So just open it up and see what you see, usually there is a README of some kind
[07:47] <polpak> erez, exe files are generally compiled to run on windows. They can occassionally work on ubuntu if you use wine
[07:47] <tonyyarusso> ernz: exe is a Windows executable.  You will use executables, but the file names won't end in .exe.
[07:47] <ernz> tonyyarusso: I seeee....
[07:47] <ernz> What will they end in?
[07:48] <tonyyarusso> ernz: Nothing.
[07:48] <Hagge_> anything
[07:48] <ernz> lol
[07:48] <Hagge_> they will have have an executable flag set on them
[07:48] <Hagge_> see ls -l <filename>
[07:48] <Bintle> !factoids
[07:48] <ubotu> A list of all my factoids can be found at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au
[07:48] <tonyyarusso> ernz: For instance, if I want to run firefox, the file is /usr/bin/firefox - no extension, but a binary executable.
[07:48] <ernz> polpak - I managed to run an old WinRAR compressed SFX << Confused me
[07:48] <apokryphos> Bintle: still, better to investigate with ubotu in /msg
[07:48] <George007> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Apr  7 21:59:25 2006
[07:48] <George007> WTH IS THAT?
[07:48] <ernz> Yea - Thats ANOTHER thing, WTF is up with the file structure on Ubuntu
[07:49] <Bintle> err sorry
[07:49] <tonyyarusso> ernz: What about it?
[07:49] <Hagge_> ernz: nothing?
[07:49] <ernz> Bin, etc, home, whats all this?
[07:49] <Hagge_> ernz: jwnix?
[07:49] <tonyyarusso> ernz: etc - all sorts of random config stuff (makes sense, right?), home - your user's home directory.
[07:49] <George007> Halp meh. I cant install stuff.... :|
[07:49] <Bintle> !en
[07:49] <ubotu> en is, like, totally, Queen's English Speakers; Essex inhabitants who may all go to #ubuntu-uk - anyone from the Island of Great Britain is also welcome.
[07:50] <freakabcd> ernz, when you're using ubuntu on a computer, _you_ are the one that has the 'colon', theres no C: or D:
[07:50] <freakabcd> :p
[07:50] <tonyyarusso> ernz: I'll take /home/anthony over C:\Documents and Settings\Tony\My Documents\ any day.
[07:50] <apokryphos> Bintle: don't investigate in here, please.
[07:50] <ernz> tonyyarusso: Right, so when I install an app (Or compile it from source code) does it install all over the machine, or just a single DIR?
[07:50] <ernz> lmao - Very true. That was a PITA
[07:50] <Hagge_> ernz: depends, but more likely inside many dirs
[07:50] <apokryphos> ernz: all over, most likely.
[07:51] <freakabcd> not necessary
[07:51] <Bintle> apokryphos how do i try commands not in here
[07:51] <Hagge_> ernz: most things you will get as packages will end up somewhere inside /usr ;)
[07:51] <apokryphos> ernz: you can see install location by dpkg -l packagename
[07:51] <obontu> hello, i'm dualbooting breezy with xp, while rebooting and loading breezy today, i got this message "/home has been mounted 30 times without being checked, check forced" and it ran a test, but when it ended, it said FAIL, but breezy loaded and my /home partition is fine, what do i do?
[07:51] <Dr_Willis> In linux EVERYTHING 'depends' :P
[07:51] <George007> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Apr  7 21:59:25 2006 <---------------- <------------------ <------------------
[07:51] <tonyyarusso> ernz: Generally a couple of specific places on the machine.  It will install libraries in one place (often shared between apps, so not program-specific so this makes sense), configuration files in /etc, and the executable in /usr/bin (or a link to it).
[07:51] <Dr_Willis> George007,  set your clock - and fix the timestamp on th files with 'touch'
[07:51] <Hagge_> ernz: but you don't have to bother about that since the package manager know where all files went and aslong as the binaries/executables are within your path you only have to type the name of them to run them
[07:51] <freakabcd> for example if you install tcl/tk 8.5a4 in /opt/tcltk85; all you need to have tcl/tk 8.54 working would be the symlink in /usr/bin
[07:51] <George007> Dr_Willis, what?
[07:51] <freakabcd> many many distros make this mistake
[07:51] <Hagge_> ernz: find some really basic unix/linux tutorial somewhere
[07:51] <ernz> Cool.
[07:52] <freakabcd> theres no _need_ to actually put the binaries in /usr/bin, etc.
[07:52] <tonyyarusso> ernz: So the program itself will be under /usr usually, but it may have pieces other places.  Similar to C:\Documents and Settings\Tony\Application Data\.
[07:52] <obontu> ?
[07:52] <oskude> ernz, normally "make" just compiles a program in the directory you have the sources, and "make install" installs it to directories you definied with "--PREFIX=" when you did ./configure
[07:52] <molinero> !compiz
[07:52] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, molinero
[07:52] <George007> Dr_Willis, my time is correct (on the clock) I fixed it... now what is it that I should do in 'touch'???
[07:52] <freakabcd> because the first place the binary looks by default for its libs are in $0/../lib
[07:52] <ernz> I tried "make" and it was not a recognised command
[07:53] <_jason> ernz: 'sudo aptitude install build-essential'
[07:53] <freakabcd> i.e. as long as you have progs installed in their own prefix, then theres no problems.
[07:53] <Rondom> obontu: try booting in recovery mode, and checking the drive again with fsck.ext3 -f /dev/[partition] 
[07:53] <Dr_Willis> man touch
[07:53] <Dr_Willis> touch filename
[07:53] <freakabcd> only the base libs need to be available for the whole system
[07:53] <oskude> ernz, well, you should read a little before you try to compile your self...
[07:53] <obontu> won't it mess up the data on my /home?
[07:53] <obontu> how do i boot up on recovery?
[07:53] <Hagge_> ernz: make only works within a directory containing a Makefile
[07:53] <tonyyarusso> ernz: It's because you don't have build-essential (that's why I told you to /msg ubotu b-e, which will tell you about that).  checkinstall is also preferable to make install.
[07:53] <Rondom> it's in grub
[07:53] <obontu> ok
[07:53] <oskude> ernz, and ofcourse look if theres a ubuntu package allready somewhere :)
[07:53] <Rondom> the second entry
[07:53] <obontu> thanx
[07:53] <ernz> I am a VB (Don't laugh) coder, so I have a little experience
[07:53] <obontu> won't it mess my /home?
[07:53] <ernz> And some from Command Line
[07:53] <Chousuke> !xgl
[07:53] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[07:54] <Rondom> obontu: it don't think so
[07:54] <jeff_> whats xgl?
[07:54] <jeff_> !xgl
[07:54] <obontu> thanx
[07:54] <oskude> ernz, for comiling, you should then install the "build-essential" meta package...
[07:54] <Rondom> obontu: it'll ask you if it changes something
[07:54] <Hagge_> ernz: http://www.ee.surrey.ac.uk/Teaching/Unix/
[07:54] <tonyyarusso> ernz: That's good.  At least it will get you started, although things will be different.
[07:55] <George007> Dr_Willis, what do I do with Touch?
[07:55] <George007> !touch
[07:55] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, George007
[07:55] <polpak> jeff_, XGL is bascially X w/ accellerated eye candy
[07:55] <jeff_> does anybody know if gdesklets will run on the kde desktop?
[07:55] <ernz> It's just all very confusing and exciting at the same time, because I didn't know there was an OS that wasn't breast-feeding me corporate, childing crap from my syphallis infected microsoft whore mother.
[07:55] <Hagge_> jeff_: probably not, why would them?
[07:55] <Hagge_> kde uses superkaramba instead
[07:55] <polpak> erez, lol
[07:55] <jeff_> polpak: does it come with a bunch of bugs?
[07:55] <Rayman_> !jre
[07:55] <ernz> Thanks Hagge_
[07:55] <ubotu> Rayman_: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:55] <Bintle> !gdesklets
[07:55] <ubotu> methinks gdesklets is gDesklets provides an advanced architecture for desktop applets -- tiny displays sitting on your desktop in a symbiotic relationship of eye candy and usefulness Homepage is http://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/
[07:55] <polpak> jeff_, actually it works pretty well
[07:55] <Rayman_> !java
[07:55] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[07:55] <Rayman_> !javadevs
[07:55] <ubotu> Rayman_: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:55] <tonyyarusso> ernz: Hehe.
[07:55] <Rayman_> !javadebs
[07:55] <jeff_> polpak: but its only for dapper... :(
[07:55] <polpak> jeff_, there are  a few issues, but nothing terribly major
[07:56] <polpak> jeff_, true, but dapper's just around the corner
[07:56] <jeff_> polpak: wicked
[07:56] <oskude> and xgl itself is still quite alpha, right ?
[07:56] <tonyyarusso> oskude: Yes.
[07:56] !lilo:*! Hi all. We need a fluent speaker of both Portuguese and English to provide translation services....please message me. Thanks!
[07:56] <ernz> Ubuntu seems like a little more work to get installed and set up, but when it is done, you really can reap the benefits.
[07:57] <Hagge_> Still noone who can explain to my why my livedrive doesn't work using a /etc/modprobe.d/snd_emu10k1.modprobe file with some options?
[07:57] <polpak> oskude, supposidly, but I've had a decent amount of success with it
[07:57] <George007> How do I fix the damned timestamp error?
[07:57] <Chousuke> I wish I could get that damn printer workingh
[07:57] <Dr_Willis> George007,  its a shell command that sets the files dates - 'man touch' tells you all!
[07:57] <edoardo|office> hi gals, hi dudes : )
[07:57] <patrick52222> how do i get tvout workiing on ubuntu, its an nvidia fx6600 if thisa helps
[07:57] <polpak> erez, I find it to be the easiest linux distro to set up actually
[07:57] <Hagge_> Chousuke: what printer? tried turboprint?
[07:57] <oskude> ernz, well, ubuntu got all my hardware automaticly configured and installed, windows didnt...
[07:57] <polpak> !tell patrick52222 about nvidia
[07:57] <Chousuke> Hagge_: a lexmark printer
[07:57] <Hagge_> patrick52222: google can probably answer that
[07:57] <edoardo|office> you guys, how do i watch tv on gnu/linux? or, what is the best tv tuner and the most compatible with gnu/linux? best brand at least : ) thankyou! : )
[07:57] <Chousuke> Hagge_: actually an all-in-one thingy.
[07:58] <polpak> edoardo|office, join #mythtv-users
[07:58] <tonyyarusso> ernz: It can take a little bit of effort, but it's all for a reason.  If you make it through the first week, you're golden.
[07:58] <ernz> Oskude: I know what you mean!!!
[07:58] <goofrider> Chousuke, have u just try some of the random Lexmark drivers?
[07:58] <edoardo|office> polpak, thankyou dude! : )
[07:58] <Chousuke> goofrider: yeah I did try some
[07:58] <ernz> I have been using Ubuntu for 4 days not
[07:58] <goofrider> sometimes it comes down to trial-and-error
[07:58] <ernz> Now*
[07:58] <George007> That didn't help much
[07:58] <Hagge_> Chousuke: http://www.turboprint.info/   try that or google for cups, your printer modell, or check out www.linuxprinting.org
[07:58] <ernz> I have been Microshit free for nearly a week!!
[07:58] <awb4422> I right clicked on an mp3, and set it to always open with BMP, but it still opens with totem. Is there a way to fix this in a gui, or do i have to hardcore it in /usr/share/applications/defaults.list?
[07:58] <ernz> Except for at work obviously...
[07:58] <George007> how do I fix the timestamp so that my sudo can work?
[07:58] <polpak> erez, congratulations.. I'm going on 7 months here
[07:59] <ernz> Man - I would love to learn web-application dev in Unix
[07:59] <ernz> That would be sweet
[07:59] <tonyyarusso> ernz: At four days I was just starting to comprehend the concept of what a winmodem was, and why I had to do to make it work.  Was sitting at home and dual-booting back and forth from using Ubuntu to Googling for how to use it!
[07:59] <jeff_> ernz: congrats man
[07:59] <polpak> erez, watch the language pls though =)
[07:59] <polpak> erez, we're a family channel
[07:59] <mario0> hi all
[07:59] <ernz> Polpak - Congrats mate! BTW It's E R N Z
[07:59] <Chousuke> Hagge_: linuxprinting.org has no info on this printer :/
[07:59] <jeff_> lol
[07:59] <ernz> lmao
[07:59] <oskude> i still use windoze for gaming ^^
[07:59] <Hagge_> Chousuke: try turboprint
[07:59] <polpak> ernz, whoops lol
[07:59] <ernz> Damned Winmodem!
[07:59] <Bintle> !language
[07:59] <Hagge_> Chousuke: either it work or it doesn't
[07:59] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[07:59] <haGGis> is there a GTK theme engine for ubuto
[07:59] <Hagge_> but it's easy ;)
[07:59] <jenda> #ubuntu-cs
[07:59] <jenda> dammit
[08:00] <mario0> coild someone help me with libstdc++.so.5?
[08:00] <jeff_> thats counter strike right?
[08:00] <tonyyarusso> ernz: Yeah.  Works now though, just had to find the driver.
[08:00] <mario0> my ff is down.. and can't downlaodit.. ;p
[08:00] <awb4422> mario0: what about it
[08:00] <George007> TIMESTAMP
[08:00] <ernz> I managed to set up a Dual Boot with Xp and Breezy 5.10 in 20 hours
[08:00] <jeff_> lol
[08:00] <ernz> Needed to sit at PC solid
[08:00] <duelboot> ernz, use MicroSloth or WinDoze for the family
[08:00] <goofrider> 20 mins? don't u mean 20 mins?
[08:00] <Hagge_> ernz: get apache+php+postgresql or tomcat+postgresql ;/
[08:00] <goofrider> 20 hrs? don't u mean 20 mins?
[08:00] <haGGis> is there a GTK theme engine for ubuto
[08:00] <MenZa> I have a microphone plugged into an external USB sound-card. How do I get it workinG?
[08:01] <MenZa> working*
[08:01] <ernz> Hours....
[08:01] <ernz> What does that mean _hagge?
[08:01] <tonyyarusso> ernz: What took so long?
[08:01] <Hagge_> ernz: for web development
[08:01] <mario0> could some one can give me an adres to repository, where I can find libstdc++.so.5
[08:01] <duelboot> menza, haven't a clue with the USB stuff :(
[08:01] <Bintle> !sound problems
[08:01] <ubotu> methinks sound problems is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[08:02] <tonyyarusso> !mirrors
[08:02] <ubotu> somebody said mirrors was repository mirrors can be found through http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[08:02] <jerware> can programs that install for Debian via apt-get work for ubuntu as well?
[08:02] <Hagge_> ernz: apache as webserver, postgresql as database, php instead of asp... or tomcat as webserver and for java servlet / java server pages
[08:02] <Chousuke> Hagge_: I will
[08:02] <dbernar1> :p wireless works on airport extreme!
[08:02] <jerware> i was reading a debian book at barnes and nobles.  there are no ububntu books
[08:02] <ernz> Is it all win compatible?
[08:02] <dbernar1> I am at my U right now.
[08:02] <oskude> jerware, i wouldnt recommend, but you maybe lucky ;)
[08:02] <jerware> doh
[08:02] <duelboot> jerware, there are several...just not there
[08:02] <mario0> I can't connect as my FF need this file :O
[08:02] <Hagge_> ernz: compatible how you mean? but yes, apache, postgresql and php runs on windows to
[08:02] <m4rcos> hello !
[08:02] <tonyyarusso> jerware: The same programs should be available.  Don't use the Debian builds though.
[08:02] <Hagge_> ernz: and tomcat is java so it runs where java runs
[08:02] <goofrider> jerware, it should work if it's a third-party repo and compiled for sarge or unstable
[08:03] <oskude> jerware, what programm are you missing ?
[08:03] <haGGis> well looking at gnomel-look.org there are GTK2 THemse that look smart wondering how to install them
[08:03] <ernz> Cool - I would want to dev under Ubuntu, but be able to run the apps on WinPCs too
[08:03] <goofrider> jerware, but don't add Debian's big repo unless u know EXACTLY what you're doing
[08:03] <ernz> Never learned Java :(
[08:03] <jerware> i want dns,  dhcp, vsftp services
[08:03] <ernz> Is PHP easy?
[08:03] <jerware> ernz:  i dont like java
[08:03] <jerware> yes php is quite a breeze
[08:03] <goofrider> jerware, they should be in universe
[08:03] <ernz> Never built many web apps
[08:03] <Hagge_> ernz: Well, if it was web development it should run whereever a browser is available shouldn't it? :D
[08:03] <oskude> ernz, php is very easy, as the documentation had good examples and comments
[08:03] <ernz> Most Software apps I built
[08:03] <jerware> goofrider:  i have breezy
[08:03] <haGGis> any 1 know how to install the GTK themes
[08:03] <jerware> is breezy part of unverse?
[08:04] <goofrider> !universe
[08:04] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[08:04] <Gosha> how much space does ubuntu take=
[08:04] <jerware> ahh
[08:04] <George007> !timestamp
[08:04] <ubotu> George007: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:04] <Gosha> ?
[08:04] <Hagge_> jerware: Many people don't like java, but most often they don't have a clue why they don't, except that they don't like it
[08:04] <George007> ffs
[08:04] <ernz> Hagge_ - the server has to run on a compatible OS, oui ... ;)?
[08:04] <tonyyarusso> jerware: Other way around.  Universe is one of the repos available for Breezy.
[08:04] <obontu> hello, i got a message while booting ubuntu that my /home partition has failed a test , i tried running recovery mode and running fsck, but it didn't find a thing
[08:04] <obontu> why is that?
[08:04] <m4rcos> Hello ! do somebody could install compiz and gdl in ubuntu ?
[08:04] <Gosha> ?
[08:04] <Gosha> how much space does ubuntu take=
[08:04] <jerware> nice
[08:04] <Hagge_> ernz: yeah, but I where expecting you to run the server in linux =P
[08:04] <ubuntu> salut
[08:04] <haGGis> ok but are they compatle with ubuto
[08:04] <Gosha> again...: how much space does ubuntu take?
[08:04] <Hagge_> Gosha: depends on how much you install?
[08:04] <ernz> Hagge_ ...OBVIOUSLY!
[08:04] <ernz> Hehe
[08:04] <tonyyarusso> Gosha: What do you want?
[08:04] <Gosha> ...only enter
[08:05] <Hagge_> my install takes like 4.5GB with 1580 packages
[08:05] <oskude> Gosha, my ubuntu takes 3.7gb atm
[08:05] <George007> Doesn't anyone know how to fix the timestamp problem?
[08:05] <Gosha> ....wtf..
[08:05] <haGGis> _jason: u there mate lol
[08:05] <Gosha> crap xD
[08:05] <Hagge_> George007: just make sure your clock works correctly?
[08:05] <Hagge_> George007: I guess a file has a time set into the future?
[08:05] <tonyyarusso> Gosha: It can be done on ~450MB if you want.  Default install fits on 2.1GB.
[08:05] <George007> Hagge_, I fixed it again
[08:05] <Gosha> ... i made a partition of 1.6 gb for it and it didn't fit .. kinda get why now ..
[08:05] <ernz> I wonder if my win apps run under Wine....
[08:05] <jerware> are services configuration files pracitically similary between debian and ububnut?  or even other distros?
[08:05] <Hagge_> George007: what is it wrong with?
[08:05] <George007> Hagge_, it was messed up... it was saying it's 10 when it was 7, I fixed it... now what
[08:05] <Hagge_> ernz: some does
[08:05] <jerware> i just migrated from fedora
[08:05] <m4rcos> Somebody has experience with ATI and compiz ?
[08:05] <George007> george@George:~$ sudo apt-get install gnome-art
[08:05] <George007> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Apr  7 21:59:25 2006
[08:05] <Hagge_> George007: well what complains?
[08:06] <m4rcos> ?
[08:06] <MenZa> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gaim/+bug/38621 <- can anyone confirm this?
[08:06] <duelboot> gosha, don't know off hand...hold on, I'll tell you in a couple
[08:06] <George007> how can I fix the timestamp back?
[08:06] <goofrider> jerware, debian and ubuntu are similar
[08:06] <ernz> Nope
[08:06] <ernz> It wont read the rar
[08:06] <Gosha> ... how come it used up 30% of 4.3 gb and doesn't fit on 1.6 gb?
[08:06] <mario0> where can I find sources.lst file..
[08:06] <mario0> ?
[08:06] <Hagge_> George007: I have no idea what that complains about, maybe some logfile was last changed 3 hours from now and it doesn't want to add a new entry for a date which has already passed
[08:06] <Xenix> helloo
[08:06] <mario0> I don't rmmber
[08:06] <jerware> goofrider: nice
[08:06] <ernz> How old is everyone?
[08:06] <obontu> hello, i got a message while booting ubuntu that my /home partition has failed a test , i tried running recovery mode and running fsck, but it didn't find a thing
[08:06] <goofrider> jerware, things in /etc are pretty similar in all distros
[08:06] <obontu> why's that?
[08:07] <Xenix> i cant run command "make"
[08:07] <duelboot> gosha, while I'm getting ready to look, realize it depends on what you installed...base + extra apps...
[08:07] <Hagge_> George007: I have no idea if touch /var/log/authlog or last or whatever it is helps.. someone probably has ;)
[08:07] <andor> hummm hi
[08:07] <George007> Hagge_,  I think it's because I changed my clock, and made it go back 3 hours?
[08:07] <Xenix> how to install that
[08:07] <shoofle> ok so i have the zip file of the XP driver for my wireless card, and it's the right one (the wikiubuntuhardware thing said to get it) now what do i do with it to use it?
[08:07] <watt> Xenix, run sudo apt-get install make
[08:07] <tonyyarusso> mario0: /etc/apt/
[08:07] <mario0> thx
[08:07] <ernz> Hagge_ how old are you?
[08:07] <Hagge_> George007: yeah, probably, but what complains ;)
[08:07] <Hagge_> ernz: 26
[08:07] <ernz> Few
[08:07] <ernz> I was feeling stupid there
[08:07] <George007> touch: cannot touch `/var/log/authlog': Permission denied
[08:07] <ernz> But ur a little older than me
[08:07] <ernz> I got time to learn yet
[08:07] <goofrider> George007, so everything will be fine 3 hrs from now. Chill  :)
[08:07] <tonyyarusso> Xenix, watt: build-essential is the metapackage you want for all compiling tools.
[08:07] <George007> andI cant sudo
[08:08] <George007> I dont have 3 hours ffs goofrider =)
[08:08] <Xenix> i cant "gcc" file
[08:08] <watt> tonyyarusso, he just asked for make :p
[08:08] <Gosha> 30% of 4.3 is 1.29 ... and it doesn't fit on 1.6 .. does anyone have an answer for that? .. does it like copy the files twice under the installation?
[08:08] <obontu> hello, i got a message while booting ubuntu that my /home partition has failed a test , i tried running recovery mode and running fsck, but it didn't find a thing
[08:08] <obontu> why's that?
[08:08] <tonyyarusso> watt: True, but then they'll be bak.
[08:08] <sppt> hello
[08:08] <watt> like now? haha
[08:08] <tonyyarusso> s/bak/back/
[08:08] <Hagge_> George007: hum, evil, since you can't change date either :)
[08:08] <sppt> does anyone know where to get the vmware package?
[08:08] <Xenix> it mean i must install other software ? how ?
[08:08] <andor> hi!, I have a pair of... hummm... issues with Dapper
[08:08] <watt> Xenix, run sudo apt-get install build-essential as tonyyarusso said
[08:08] <oskude> !dapper
[08:08] <ernz> Dudes - I am gonna call it a day and get some kip. Maybe look into all that jazz tomorrow morning.
[08:08] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[08:08] <Hagge_> George007: reboot, go inside bios, change date (is that possible?) to a future time, sudo, switch back time, run touch of last.log and authlog in /var/log
[08:08] <tonyyarusso> watt: :)
[08:08] <shoofle> so what do i do with the windows driver for my wireless card to use it?  i know i am supposed to.  how do i do it? where do i put it?
[08:09] <RobboRat> Whe I ty to upgrade to Amao 1.4, Adept won't let e, neither will apt-get. Syas that it will break packages?
[08:09] <ernz> Thanks all for your help - MUCH Appreciated.
[08:09] <Hagge_> George007: start a new shell and see if you can sudo from within it
[08:09] <ernz> Good night
[08:09] <andor> oskude: ;) thx
[08:09] <sppt> !vmware
[08:09] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, sppt
[08:09] <George007> no I cant Hagge_ Itried it
[08:09] <sppt> hmm
[08:09] <Xenix> thanks
[08:09] <sppt> i need the vmware package, because my Xorg doesn't boot w/o it
[08:09] <sppt> but where do i get it?
[08:09] <George007> I'll just add 3 hours to the clock I guess :|
[08:09] <George007> this is so stupid
[08:09] <goofrider> i don;t think there's a Ubuntu package for VMware. go to Vmware.com and download the installer
[08:10] <Hagge_> George007: 1) Reboot 2) Go inside BIOS 3) Change time +4 hours 4) boot 5) sudo 6) Change date 7) touch /var/log/thefiles 8) start new shell 9) see if you can sudo from within it
[08:10] <jramsey> trying to build a module from src; i enter make and bash doesnt know where make is; arent the dev tools installed with standard ubuntu?
[08:10] <andor> sppt: Xorg doesn't boot with vmware ?
[08:10] <sppt> no
[08:10] <sppt> amd64
[08:10] <Hagge_> fuck, i'm missing simpsons
[08:10] <Hagge_> ;/
[08:10] <goofrider> sppt, u mean the vmware-tools?
[08:10] <watt> lol Hagge_
[08:10] <duelboot> gosha, realize the base (600ish MB I think) install is MUCH less and that I've downloaded many apps...I'm still at < 5GB...anyone else know what the initial install is?
[08:10] <sppt> i need the module vmware
[08:10] <PwcrLinux> !language
[08:10] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[08:10] <andor> sppt: what does your xorg needs from vmware?
[08:10] <andor> ajam
[08:10] <duelboot> !language
[08:10] <sppt> the module isnt found
[08:10] <tonyyarusso> Does anyone actually understand how Launchpad assigns karma?
[08:11] <andor> sppt: there is a xorg vmware driver for graphics
[08:11] <jramsey> any takers for following?
[08:11] <jramsey> trying to build a module from src; i enter make and bash doesnt know where make is; arent the dev tools installed with standard ubuntu?
[08:11] <sppt> is it a module?
[08:11] <oskude> jramsey, no dev tools are not installed by default, try installing "build-essential" package
[08:11] <andor> sppt: probably
[08:11] <mario0> well.. my FF is not booting..cold someone help me?
[08:11] <goofrider> sppt, read the guide @ VMware. you're supposed to copy the wmare-tools (or vm-tools, i forgot) to the guest os and install it
[08:11] <jramsey> oskude, apt-get build-essential?
[08:11] <duelboot> mario0, how are you trying to launch it?
[08:12] <oskude> jramsey, yup, but with sudo
[08:12] <jramsey> oskude, gotcha ty
[08:12] <mario0> I need this pac. libstdc++.so.5
[08:12] <George007> Hagge_, I addded 3 hours to the clock, and now it works.. but that's too stupid... :(
[08:12] <oskude> jramsey, to be correct "sudo apt-get install build-essential" ...
[08:12] <mario0> brb
[08:12] <jramsey> oskude, ty i just got the bash error :)
[08:12] <goofrider> George007, set your clock back b4 u go to sleep. Everything will be fine once 3 hrs are passed
[08:12] <sppt> ill type over what it told me: (EE) Failed to load module "vmware" (module doesn't exist, 0) (ee) No drivers avaible
[08:13] <George007> Okay goofrider
[08:13] <andor> sppt: apt-get install xserver-xorg-driver-vmware
[08:13] <ville_> hello!
[08:13] <harisund> hello ville_
[08:13] <ville_> is firewall a nessesary when using kubuntu?
[08:13] <Hagge_> George007: run 1) terminal 2) sudo sh 3) change date 4) cd /var/log 5) touch auth.log 6) touch lastlog 7) start one more terminal 8) try to sudo, does it work? fine, doesn't it? you still have a superuser shell in the other terminal and can switch the date back
[08:13] <goofrider> sppt, install vamre-tools from VMware. Read their "Guest OS Installation HowTo"
[08:13] <sppt> andor, thanks
[08:13] <harisund> ville_ as far as I know, a firewall is not "necessary". Rather, it is a safety precaution.
[08:13] <ville_> i dont know how to configure shorewall..
[08:13] <Hagge_> goofrider: or even better use ntp and let it change the date over some time
[08:13] <duelboot> ville_ a firewall is *necessary* no matter what...if you mean required to run it...no...but do so at your own risk
[08:14] <yoann_> hello
[08:14] <goofrider> Hagge_, it'll lock him out again if he enable NTP now
[08:14] <duelboot> ville_ I use firestarter...VERY easy GUI interface to iptables...I recommend it...anyone else?
[08:14] <goofrider> andor, didn't know Xorg provides a VMware driver now
[08:14] <PwcrLinux> goofrider: linux have automatic time changes for spring and fall.
[08:14] <watt> duelboot, same here
[08:14] <ville_> how it works.. i'm running linux for 2nd time!
[08:14] <ville_> can you help me...? :/
[08:14] <George007> It worked Hagge_  thx
[08:14] <oskude> ville_, on default theres no services that listen to "internet" so you dont "need" a firewall, in theory... but you propably have a dsl-router with "firewall" ...
[08:15] <harisund> anybody know of a nice client for whois that can work for ip address too?
[08:15] <goofrider> PwcrLinux, it doesn't change the UTC
[08:15] <Hagge_> ville_: a firewall is never necesarry, and aslong as you don't run a lot of network services you don't trust: no.. and why run services you don't need anyway? so no, no need for firewall
[08:15] <duelboot> oskude it's still a 'firewall'...hence my statement
[08:15] <ville_> i want that firestarter running.. how? :D
[08:15] <jramsey> oskude, maybe u have an idea why i get the following error when building this module (the apt-get succeeded):
[08:15] <Hagge_> George007: try what i said now
[08:15] <Hagge_> ok, nice.
[08:15] <George007> Hagge_,  yeah, that's what I did =)
[08:15] <PwcrLinux> goofrider: did clicked "Auto DST"?
[08:15] <duelboot> ville_, sudo apt-get install firestarter
[08:15] <harisund> carthik: You might be knowing this. Do you know of a whois like client that can give whois information for ip addresses too?
[08:15] <jramsey> jramsey@ubuntu:~/tipc/tipc-1.5.10$ make KINCLUDE=/usr/src/linux-source-2.6.12/include
[08:15] <jramsey> make -C /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.12/include/.. SUBDIRS=/home/jramsey/tipc/tipc-1.5.10 modules;\
[08:15] <jramsey> mv tipc.o net/tipc/; mv tipc.ko net/tipc; \
[08:15] <jramsey> mv tipc.mod.o net/tipc; mv tipc.mod.c net/tipc;\
[08:15] <jramsey> cd tools && make;
[08:15] <jramsey> make[1] : Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-source-2.6.12'
[08:15] <Hagge_> George007: missed the line
[08:15] <jramsey> Makefile:485: .config: No such file or directory
[08:15] <jramsey> /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.12/scripts/gcc-version.sh: line 11: gcc-3.4: command not found
[08:16] <George007> heh
[08:16] <jramsey> /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.12/scripts/gcc-version.sh: line 12: gcc-3.4: command not found
[08:16] <oskude> !paste
[08:16] <jramsey> make[1] : gcc-3.4: Command not found
[08:16] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[08:16] <jramsey>   WARNING: Symbol version dump /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.12/Module.symvers
[08:16] <jramsey>            is missing; modules will have no dependencies and modversions.
[08:16] <jramsey>   CC [M]   /home/jramsey/tipc/tipc-1.5.10/net/tipc/addr.o
[08:16] <jramsey> /bin/bash: gcc-3.4: command not found
[08:16] <mario0> WTF?
[08:16] <oskude> jramsey, DONT PASTE HERE
[08:16] <jramsey> make[2] : *** [/home/jramsey/tipc/tipc-1.5.10/net/tipc/addr.o]  Error 127
[08:16] <jramsey> make[1] : *** [_module_/home/jramsey/tipc/tipc-1.5.10]  Error 2
[08:16] <jramsey> make[1] : Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-source-2.6.12'
[08:16] <jramsey> mv: cannot stat `tipc.o': No such file or directory
[08:16] <PwcrLinux> !pastebin
[08:16] <ubotu> hmm... pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[08:16] <jramsey> mv: cannot stat `tipc.ko': No such file or directory
[08:16] <jramsey> mv: cannot stat `tipc.mod.o': No such file or directory
[08:16] <jramsey> mv: cannot stat `tipc.mod.c': No such file or directory
[08:16] <jramsey> make[1] : Entering directory `/home/jramsey/tipc/tipc-1.5.10/tools'
[08:16] <George007> jramsey, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ plz
[08:16] <duelboot> ville_ then applications -> system tools -> firestarter   I've also added it to start automatically when I log in
[08:16] <goofrider> PwcrLinux, UTC is in GMT, so is Linux system datetime. All DST is changing the offset
[08:16] <jramsey> make[1] : Nothing to be done for `all'.
[08:16] <jramsey> sry;
[08:16] <seraphire> Sorry to bother, anyone know where I can find info on how to connect from my Ubuntu box to connect to my windows box on a domain?
[08:16] <mario0> !sources
[08:16] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[08:17] <mario0> !easysource
[08:17] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[08:17] <ville_> cant find that package..
[08:17] <duelboot> anyone know if samba will let seraphire accomplish the question asked?
[08:17] <goofrider> seraphire, connecting to the windows for file sharing? or remote desktop?
[08:17] <PwcrLinux> goofrider: yea, mines does auto time changes..
[08:17] <seraphire> goofrider: I'm trying to file share.
[08:17] <seraphire> I've got RDP working.
[08:17] <watt> carthik, I copied the archives folder on desktop PC, i do "apt-get dist-upgrade" but still it needs to redownload all the files again.
[08:18] <goofrider> seraphire, in Gnome, u can just do //windowsboxname/share
[08:18] <watt> or even "apt-get upgrade"
[08:18] <runedude_> hey all, my "w" and "who" command show a invalid list of users on the channel.. i think its when i had a "read only filesystem" it screwed it up, now my w or who commands are showing old logins.. any ideas how to refresh it?
[08:18] <Hagge_> George007: you can get the ntpd package and run ntpdate ntp.oru.se or some other server and get your time updated automatically
[08:18] <mario0> /opt/firefox/firefox-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[08:18] <seraphire> I thought I did that, but I may have the slashes wrong.
[08:18] <goofrider> seraphire, otherwise, u can try to mount the remote share using smbmount
[08:18] <carthik> watt, just copying over archives wont let apt know that the new files are here... which is why i suggested using apt-proxy
[08:18] <Hagge_> George007: or run ntpd all the time and your clock will always be correct
[08:18] <George007> Hagge_, how do I get it?
[08:18] <harisund> mario0: Use http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[08:18] <Hagge_> apt-get install ntpd i guess
[08:19] <mario0> lol
[08:19] <watt> carthik,  doesn't it look there first?
[08:19] <mario0> but my ff is dead
[08:19] <Mitja> Are there settings wrong in /etc/hosts if I get sudo: unable to lookup kubuntu via gethostbyname() or should I also look elsewhere?
[08:19] <George007> kk
[08:19] <harisund> mario0: you can still use /usr/bin/firefox
[08:19] <mario0> can I apt-gt this file?
[08:19] <duelboot> carthik, if watt does dpkg -i <each>...will that work?
[08:19] <carthik> harisund, can't understand your question
[08:19] <_jason> Mitja: paste the first line in /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname
[08:19] <watt> duelboot, if i "dpkg -i" 2634 I'm gonna commit suicide :P
[08:19] <rayh-away> I've screwed up something.  A open file from gedit raises several "authentication required" boxes.
[08:19] <carthik> duelboot, he can do dpkg -i <package1> <package-2> etc
[08:19] <watt> 2634 files*
[08:19] <Hagge_> mario0: you have tried to install firefox 1.5 in ubuntu 5.10?
[08:19] <rayh-away> anyone got a pointer.
[08:19] <duelboot> watt, WOW didn't realize it was that many
[08:19] <mario0> harisund,  I will try
[08:20] <watt> XD
[08:20] <jramsey> ok, let me try this again; here's the paste link; am trying to build TIPC module and it doesn't even get off the ground
[08:20] <carthik> watt it checks there if it put it there in the first place, else not
[08:20] <jramsey> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11697
[08:20] <mario0> Hagge_,  yes
[08:20] <harisund>  carthik: basicall if I do whois google.com I get some information. However, if I do whois 63.34.56.12 it can't understand, even though that is a valid ip address
[08:20] <Hagge_> mario0: never worked for me either
[08:20] <mario0> something wrong with it?
[08:20] <Hagge_> use firefox.ubuntu if you want the old binary
[08:20] <mario0> oh.. :o
[08:20] <_indyjans> hallo, is there anyone who could hepl me with modem AC 97. The modem is recognized by the system, but I cannot use KPP because it keeps telling me thet the modem is busy. I use Ubuntu 6.04. Thanx  (begginer)
[08:20] <harisund> mario0: Did you open the default firefox?
[08:20] <Hagge_> well, except i never got it to work i guess there is nothing wrong with it
[08:20] <jerware> is /etc/apt/sources.list the only doc to see when repos i currently have?
[08:20] <watt> carthik, guess there will be a "list" of them somewhere
[08:20] <EvilDin> me need help with proftpd, how to give one user acess to only one folder, or how to make proftp work on different port - one for public access only one folder and one for administrators which have different root directory?
[08:20] <mario0> nop
[08:20] <mario0> I will try it now
[08:20] <Hagge_> kind of retarded to let the old memory leaking piece of shit stay
[08:20] <Mitja> _jason, /etc/hosts 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost ubuntu   /etc/hostname kubuntu
[08:20] <harisund> _indyjans: Try asking for help in #ubuntu+1 They are the 6.06 support
[08:20] <Hagge_> oh, language
[08:20] <Hagge_> forgot
[08:21] <Hagge_> :D
[08:21] <runedude_> damn, guess no one knows :'(
[08:21] <seraphire> goofrider: Bizarre, I don't know how I tried to get to it before, but it's letting me in now.  I fought with it for hours previously. Thanks for the help.
[08:21] <_jason> Mitja: do you want your hostname to be ubuntu or kubuntu?
[08:21] <yoann_> :D
[08:21] <duelboot> mario0, try /usr/bin/firefox at the terminal
[08:21] <George007> Hagge_, E: Couldn't find package ntpd
[08:21] <Mitja> _jason, actually I was thinking of my name :)
[08:21] <goofrider> seraphire, no problem
[08:21] <Hagge_> mario0: I ended up upgrading to dapper just to get a new firefox and kde 3.5
[08:21] <oskude> jramsey, type "gcc -v" in terminal and read line 11 in your paste "make[1] : gcc-3.4: Command not found"
[08:21] <Hagge_> George007: try ntp only then
[08:21] <Mitja> _jason, should I change everything to my name then?
[08:21] <goofrider> seraphire, google for sambe in the future if u need help on file sharing with windows
[08:22] <goofrider> samba
[08:22] <mario0> :o
[08:22] <mario0> I didn't know that there is new version
[08:22] <seraphire> *nods* I should have thought of that. Thanks.
[08:22] <George007> btw Hagge_ I re-got the error lol
[08:22] <jramsey> 4.0.2 of gcc; maybe the make is stale?
[08:22] <Hagge_> George007: :(
[08:22] <luis_> how can I manually mount a USB device that is connected, for example, on BUS 1?
[08:22] <_jason> Mitja: ok, just change /etc/hostname to contain ``mitja'' instead of ``kubuntu'', and change /etc/hosts from ``ubuntu'' to ``mitja''.  You may need to reboot and select recovery mode from the grub menu to edit the files.  The command 'nano /etc/hosts' will let you edit
[08:22] <mario0> ^^ they send me this one 5.10 :\
[08:22] <goofrider> Hagge_, I told u. :P
[08:22] <Hagge_> mario0: get opera instead ;)
[08:22] <Zimx> Why do i get errors like this when i try to run Radrails? Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib
[08:22] <EvilDin> me need help with proftpd, how to give one user acess to only one folder, or how to make proftp work on different port - one for public access only one folder and one for administrators which have different root directory?
[08:22] <Hagge_> goofrider: not because of ntp =P
[08:22] <arrick> hi all
[08:22] <Hagge_> or well, i guess not because of ntp?
[08:23] <harisund> hey arrick !
[08:23] <Mitja> _jason, nah, I can edit just fine with sudo
[08:23] <oskude> jramsey, that means the source needs gcc-3.4 version, try wiki or forums on howto do that, or maybe ubotu
[08:23] <carthik> harisund, dig -x 82.211.81.173
[08:23] <George007> Hagge_, I only type: touch /var/log/lastlog.log or whatever that name was? I dont put options?
[08:23] <mario0> Hagge_,  can I use apt-get to install it?
[08:23] <goofrider> !proftpd
[08:23] <ubotu> goofrider: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:23] <_jason> Mitja: oh ok
[08:23] <oskude> !gcc3.4
[08:23] <ubotu> oskude: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:23] <jramsey> oskude, ok txs will look now
[08:23] <carthik> harisund, that does a reverse lookup
[08:23] <arrick> hey harisund how r yah?
[08:23] <Hagge_> George007: nah, i don't think so, i don't know much about touch
[08:23] <PwcrLinux> !ftp
[08:23] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: vsftpd, proftpd
[08:23] <Hagge_> lastlog and auth.log
[08:23] <George007> kk
[08:23] <Hagge_> i don't know if that is really the files to do it on
[08:23] <Mitja> _jason, also is it possible to change the domain name to something arbitrary?
[08:23] <Hagge_> but i did
[08:23] <Hagge_> err, guessed, you can use * ;D
[08:23] <luis_> hello! how can I manually mount a USB device that is connected, for example, on BUS 1?
[08:23] <_jason> Mitja: not sure
[08:23] <Hagge_> mario0: no, http://www.opera.no/
[08:24] <arrick> hey everyone, what is the "unversal" format for music files that will play on any conputer?
[08:24] <duelboot> luis try             mount /dev/<usbdev> /<mountpoint>
[08:24] <Mitja> _jason, ok, thanks a lot :)
[08:24] <Hagge_> mario0: get 8.54, nicer than firefox 1.0.7 atleast ;)
[08:24] <arrick> computer that is
[08:24] <mario0> well..
[08:24] <goofrider> EvilDin, did u try the documentation @ http://www.proftpd.org/  ?
[08:24] <mario0> opera is downloading
[08:24] <mario0> by apt-get
[08:24] <Hagge_> arrick: probably mp3?
[08:24] <oskude> luis_, that should be mounted automaticly, but bus 1 partition i should be at /dev/sda1
[08:24] <George007> alright installing ntp Hagge_
[08:24] <George007> it is done... now what?
[08:24] <arrick> Hagge_, can you play that on everything?
[08:24] <mario0> 8.51
[08:24] <EvilDin> yeah i tried i read and tried nothing works :(
[08:24] <mario0> ver
[08:24] <Hagge_> George007: sudo ntpdate ntp.oru.se
[08:24] <EvilDin> does anyone maybe know
[08:25] <Hagge_> George007: or get a list of servers closer to you
[08:25] <goofrider> arrick, WAV?
[08:25] <andor> luis_: when you put your usb thingie on the port, it should say something on /var/log/messages about what device it's using
[08:25] <George007> Good enough Hagge_  =)
[08:25] <Hagge_> arrick: no, you can probably not play anything on everything
[08:25] <Hagge_> arrick: iff can be played on all amigas
[08:25] <runedude_> guys, is there anyway to refresh the w/who list if it is messed up?
[08:25] <Hagge_> arrick: wave on all windows pcs, and probably most other platforms
[08:25] <andor> luis_: probably /dev/sda1 if you don't have any SCSI device on the computer
[08:25] <George007> Hagge_,  sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Apr  7 23:23:48 2006
[08:25] <George007>  LOL
[08:25] <arrick> goofrider, i want smaller files, i just filled up my ftp server with my music, and i want to go smaller that .wma files
[08:25] <Hagge_> arrick: but mp3 are generic enough isn't it?
[08:25] <Hagge_> George007: bwah :/
[08:25] <goofrider> arrick, Ogg Vorbis then
[08:25] <tonyyarusso> arrick: Either mp3 or ogg vorbis.
[08:26] <Hagge_> George007: I don't know for sure WHAT file makes it complain like that
[08:26] <harisund> carthik: Awesome Thanks a ton (knew you would have an answer). Do you know the equivalent of tracert for Linux?
[08:26] <duelboot> luis_ what andor said or    dmesg       at the term will let you know easier than going to /var/log/messages
[08:26] <arrick> thanks, now how do I convert them over?
[08:26] <Hagge_> George007: i only guessed /var/log/authlog and those
[08:26] <George007> I see
[08:26] <andor> harisund: traceroute ?
[08:26] <George007> Hagge_,  what is sh anyway?
[08:26] <luis_> well, it says 'new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 7'
[08:26] <tonyyarusso> arrick: mencoder probably.
[08:26] <goofrider> EvilDin, did u restart the proftpd daemon after u changed the config files?
[08:26] <EvilDin> ye
[08:26] <Hagge_> arrick: well, except mp3 or ogg i don't think you have much of a choice
[08:26] <EvilDin> s
[08:27] <Hagge_> arrick: mp3 are probably easier for everyone to understand and play, but ogg is more open
[08:27] <duelboot> harisund, i have to type tracepath in ubuntu...
[08:27] <arrick> tonyyarusso, is that nstalled by default?
[08:27] <watt> Any1 knows how to trace the keymaps of some special buttons on my keyb? I mean to get the bash output of some special buttons on my keyboard.
[08:27] <tonyyarusso> arrick: I'm not sure.
[08:27] <harisund> carthik: Oh ok. I think tracepath was what I was looking for
[08:27] <andor> luis_: if it's the only usb disk connected you should try with /dev/sda1 or /dev/sdb1 or /dev/sdc1
[08:27] <harisund> carthik: Thanks a million again.
[08:27] <goofrider> arrick, I recommend hydrogenaudio.org for comprehensive info about audio compression and conversion
[08:28] <mario0> Ok, new opera is working :D
[08:28] <luis_> andor: I tried, it says 'can't find'
[08:28] <oskude> watt, try "xev"
[08:28] <tonyyarusso> watt: I don't remember it offhand, but I know that is covered on the ThinkWiki.
[08:28] <watt> thx
[08:28] <carthik> harisund, np
[08:28] <duelboot> luis if you tab twice (quickly) after /dev/sd        it will list the available sdXs
[08:28] <goofrider> EvilDin, and? what's the problem? the new user/pwd doesn't work? proftpd won't start?
[08:28] <oskude> watt, in the terminal
[08:28] <luis_> andor: but I got it working once, automatically, on the Live cd.. now it wont work!
[08:28] <duelboot> luis_   ^^^^
[08:28] <VincentMX> goofrider, i've installed nxclient, but when i type nxclient in an xterm it says command not found
[08:28] <Hagge_> goofrider: you can't tell ntpdate to change the date real slowly?
[08:28] <EvilDin> simple doesn't work in way i want
[08:28] <watt> oskude, yeah it works ty
[08:29] <oskude> watt, and with xmodmap you can map your keys how you like
[08:29] <watt> <3
[08:29] <luis_> duelboot: dmesg shows lots of messages and I can't understand it :P
[08:29] <andor> luis_: disconnect, connect and type 'tail /var/log/messages'
[08:29] <luis_> altought dmesg shows 'usb 3-1: device not accepting address 13, error -71'
[08:29] <duelboot> luis_ remove the usb device then insert again...  dmesg    paste last two lines here
[08:29] <andor> luis_: it will say something about 'SCSI device sdb' or something
[08:29] <goofrider> Hagge_, i'm sure u can change the check interval in the config file
[08:29] <George007> How can I know which processes are running atm?
[08:29] <watt> ps -aux
[08:29] <goofrider> VincentMX, i forgot the cmd... check the wiki
[08:30] <goofrider> !feenx
[08:30] <ubotu> goofrider: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:30] <goofrider> !freenx
[08:30] <ubotu> [freenx]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX
[08:30] <juztin> hi all!  i am trying to change an icon for a launcher in my panel...i downloaded a custom icon i want to use, but when i right-click/properties/change icon, the icons i downloaded are grayed out...are there some sort of rules i should know about for icons?  or am i just doing something wrong?
[08:30] <carthik> VincentMX, I think it is /usr/NX/bin/nxclient
[08:30] <goofrider> EvilDin, you should be able to restrict users to their home directory with every FTP server there is out there
[08:30] <arrick> thanks goofrider it looks interesting
[08:31] <Frogzoo> wine was working for me, and now after installing some stuff & enabling prelinking, it's crashes on startup - any suggestions how to go about tracking down the problem?
[08:31] <arrick> thanks tonyyarusso
[08:31] <luis_> ok, now it recognized the files, but it (a mobile phone) won't charge as it did once :(
[08:31] <arrick> morning Frogzoo
[08:31] <Frogzoo> arrick:
[08:31] <arrick> mornin IdleOne
[08:31] <arrick> morning dabaR
[08:31] <duelboot> arrick, website up?
[08:31] <Hagge_> Does anyone know how to enable and use the SB Audigy Livedrive using ALSA? I have this file and settings but it doesn't work:
[08:31] <Hagge_> $ cat /etc/modprobe.d/snd_emu10k1.modprobe
[08:31] <Hagge_> options snd_emu10k1x extin=0x3fff extout=0x7fff
[08:31] <oskude> watt, my "~/.xmodmap" file has a line "keycode 61 = minus underscore bar bar bar", that means i get with minus-key a "-" and with shift+minuskey a "_" and the 2 "bars" dunno, but the last "bar" gives me "|" with altgr+minuskey...
[08:31] <Chousuke> Hm
[08:31] <duelboot> !sound
[08:31] <ubotu> sound is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[08:31] <arrick> the server is up, just doing some restructuring of the site before pasting in
[08:31] <Chousuke> Something goofed while upgrading to dapper
[08:32] <arrick> duelboot, ^^
[08:32] <mario0> ha! finally I made it working.. (FF 1.51
[08:32] <duelboot> !tell Hagge_ about sound
[08:32] <Chousuke> gnome terminal went haywire and I had to kill it
[08:32] <harisund> mario0 what did you do?
[08:32] <arrick> duelboot, gotta update a lot of the info
[08:32] <Chousuke> thus terminating aptitude.
[08:32] <juztin> hi all!  i am trying to change an icon for a launcher in my panel...i downloaded a custom icon i want to use, but when i right-click/properties/change icon, the icons i downloaded are grayed out...are there some sort of rules i should know about for icons?  or am i just doing something wrong?
[08:32] <Gosha> 30% of 4.3 is 1.29 ... and it doesn't fit on 1.6 .. does anyone have an answer for that? .. does it like copy the files twice under the installation?
[08:32] <Linux_Junkie> does anyone have a solution to synaptics touchpad going out of sync and losing bytes ?
[08:32] <luis_> andor: ok, now it recognized the files, but it (a mobile phone) won't charge as it did once :(
[08:32] <luis_> dualboot: ok, now it recognized the files, but it (a mobile phone) won't charge as it did once :(
[08:32] <watt> thx a lot oskude, really helpful
[08:32] <duelboot> send me Pm with IP again
[08:32] <mario0> well.. apt-get install libstdc++5 :P
[08:32] <mario0> and working
[08:32] <arrick> hey anyone know how to add a folder that points to another hd in the /home/ftp/ folder?
[08:33] <arrick> I need a little more room for the ftp
[08:33] <Hagge_> duelboot: digital output only works for the spdif on the soundcard, not on the livedrive, nothing at all seems to work on the livedrive
[08:33] <harisund> mario0 well, that works, but you might not be able to get plugins for your firefox using apt-get commands (like apt-get install mozilla-acroread)
[08:33] <juztin> arrick, couldn't you just rightclick the hd, create a link, then move it to /home/ftp ?
[08:33] <duelboot> can you do PMs hagge_?
[08:33] <Hagge_> sure
[08:33] <arrick> I dont know as I am in xp rigth now
[08:33] <mario0> harisund,  why?
[08:33] <juztin> arrick, i'll try it for ya
[08:34] <mario0> (I will use probably adblock, faster fox)
[08:34] <harisund> mario0 because apt-get doesn't know to search in your /opt/firefox path. It will only install those plugins in your /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox directory, which is the directory for the older default version of firefox.
[08:34] <andor> luis_: dunnot know :(
[08:34] <arrick> juztin, would boot to ubuntu but moving 5GB rigth now to the servers
[08:34] <juztin> arrick, i have my second hd mounted as /storage....from file browser, it won't let me make a link of it :P
[08:35] <MenZa> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gaim/+bug/38621 <- can anyone confirm this?
[08:35] <harisund> mario0 that is why whenever I install a new copy of Ubuntu 5.10, I always follow the instructions from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[08:35] <mario0> well.. I used that special installation script..
[08:35] <luis_> thx anyway, I'll keep trying
[08:35] <arrick> juztin, theres gotta be a way
[08:35] <juztin> does anyone know what i should do about my icon problem?
[08:35] <mario0> I have found it in other site
[08:36] <watt> cool, desktop PC running XGL too, sweet tri-view =)
[08:36] <haGGis> trying to install Nvidia Grx driver following a guied i was given . when going to comand line( the non grf version of liunx ) to install like the guide says . when trying to install driver it keeps poping up that i need to stop using X server how do i stop this
[08:36] <duelboot> Hagge_, I don't see any PMs from you, are you registered?  In either case look at this:  http://opensrc.org/alsa/index.php?page=emu10k1
[08:36] <juztin> arrick, you can do it....just run file browser as root, then you can create a link of it
[08:36] <arrick> duelboot, you can use #arrick if you would like
[08:36] <arrick> ok
[08:37] <arrick> thanks juztin
[08:37] <duelboot> okay
[08:37] <arrick> duelboot, thats kinda why i created that channel
[08:37] <juztin> arrick, no problem....now...you don't happen to know anything about my icon problem by any chance, do you? :P
[08:37] <arrick> didnt read it, whats up juztin ?
[08:37] <duelboot> okay
[08:38] <juztin> arrick, here's a repost:   i am trying to change an icon for a launcher in my panel...i downloaded a custom icon i want to use, but when i right-click/properties/change icon, the icons i downloaded are grayed out...are there some sort of rules i should know about for icons?  or am i just doing something wrong?
[08:38] <MenZa> ubotu: seen rlaager
[08:38] <arrick> hey juztin check this page out !icon
[08:38] <aliquis> duelboot: wrong nick for it ;)
[08:38] <arrick> it helped me with that problem juztin
[08:38] <arrick> haha duelboot not hard to do
[08:38] <juztin> arrick, !icon doesn't get anything outta ubotu :P
[08:38] <Bambino> anyone knows why vlc is not working for me?
[08:38] <Bambino> The sound that is
[08:39] <Bambino> other software is working, except vlc, there is a pic,but no sound
[08:39] <Reb0x> ho
[08:39] <Reb0x> hi
[08:39] <juztin> hi Reb0x
[08:40] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Bambino: try selecting a different sound sink
[08:40] <Bambino> PuMpErNiCkLe:  How do I do that?
[08:40] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Bambino: I think vlc uses OSS by default, so ALSA would be my recommendation.
[08:40] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Bambino: hang on a sec
[08:41] <Reb0x> i'm new
[08:41] <arrick> !icons
[08:41] <ubotu> If you have missing icons after upgrading to Breezy, change theme at System -> Preferences -> Theme
[08:43] <neuron> hey
[08:43] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Bambino: vlc -> settings -> prefs -> audio -> output modules (click 'advanced options' -> audio output module
[08:43] <juztin> i am trying to change an icon for a launcher in my panel...i downloaded a custom icon i want to use, but when i right-click/properties/change icon, the icons i downloaded are grayed out...are there some sort of rules i should know about for icons?  or am i just doing something wrong?
[08:43] <Bambino> PuMpErNiCkLe: Ok thanks!! ;)
[08:43] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Bambino: np :)
[08:43] <neuron> how can i write ntfs filesystems?
[08:43] <neuron> i tried installing fuse
[08:44] <jramsey> build-essential installs gcc 4.0.2 and i need gcc 3.4; anyone know how i can get the collection of matched tools that has gcc 3.4??
[08:44] <_jason> neuron: safely, boot windows
[08:44] <_jason> jramsey: sudo aptitude install gcc-3.4
[08:44] <neuron> but i cand modprobe fuse, it says it cant find the fuse module
[08:44] <neuron> _jason, i dont have windows :D
[08:44] <jramsey> _jason, will that get all the matched utils as well?
[08:44] <_jason> neuron: then why use ntfs?
[08:44] <Bambino> One last question before I head off to the gym, any good game worth installing that would be fun to play?
[08:44] <_jason> jramsey: you should ahve them with build-essential already
[08:45] <neuron> i had windows installed before, and i didnt want to format the data i had
[08:45] <jerware> do configuration/files  look the same for xinetd as with regular inetd?
[08:45] <carthik> Bambino|Gym, try Armagetron
[08:45] <jerware> just with added features
[08:45] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Bambino|Gym: BZflag, Cube, tuxracer
[08:46] <PuMpErNiCkLe> neuron: try this http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/ - I've heard decent stuff about it
[08:46] <Bambino|Gym> jramsey: I might be mistaking but you might need CPP 3.4 too? (anyways thats what I needed when i had to install my wireless)
[08:46] <Bambino|Gym> PuMpErNiCkLe, carthik : thanks
[08:46] <neuron> PuMpErNiCkLe, thanks
[08:46] <Zoroaster> how come I never have any new memos?
[08:46] <watt> u do every week/month
[08:47] <jramsey> Bambino|Gym, sudo aptitude install cpp-3.4??
[08:47] <ltR20> Hey, does anyone know why my Soundbar in GNOME is inverted?
[08:47] <Determinist> what's this growing use of aptitude lately? what's wrong with apt-get?
[08:47] <mario0> whats up with new ubuntu?
[08:48] <mario0> I can't find it one the site
[08:48] <Minn3h> how do I edit the applications menu in the top toolbar?
[08:48] <Minn3h> where are those launchers on the filesystem?
[08:48] <Determinist> mario0, it's still under development, gonna take a while till it's done, about early june
[08:48] <Bambino|Gym> jramsey: You got 32bit or 64bit?
[08:48] <ltR20> Hey, does anyone know why my Soundbar in GNOME is inverted?
[08:48] <_jason> Determinist: aptitude is better for installing, it remembers what dependencies were installed with a package
[08:48] <jramsey> Bambino|Gym, 32
[08:48] <mario0> oh..
[08:48] <mario0> good.. :)
[08:48] <Determinist> _jason, meaning if you uninstall a package then it will remove the dependencies assuming they are not requested by any other package?
[08:48] <mario0> I thouhgt that I have to download it.. :)
[08:48] <_jason> Determinist: yep
[08:49] <aliquis> neuron: check http://www.ntfs-linux.com/
[08:49] <Zoroaster> when I ssh to my ubuntu server, I get asked for a password, but it wont take the user password setup for that linux box
[08:49] <Bambino|Gym> jramsey:  try to get the gcc-3.4-base and cpp-3.4 would that work?
[08:49] <Zoroaster> what password might it want?
[08:49] <aliquis> neuron: I never understood if that adds ntfs to a linux system or only as recovery cd
[08:49] <mario0> !sources
[08:49] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[08:49] <aliquis> neuron: and also it cost money
[08:49] <aliquis> neuron: but atleast it supports ntfs ;)
[08:49] <Determinist> _jason, ok, then if i use aptitude to install something then try removing it with synaptic, would it do the same or does it only work if you install+uninstall using aptitude?
[08:49] <Zoroaster> does SSH get its own password?  does it not authenticate the default user?
[08:49] <hellz_hunter> i cant seem to get the installer to let me setup RAID0 on my server
[08:49] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Zoroaster: It tries to use your current account name, I think, unless you use the -l option
[08:50] <neuron> uhm, and i have another problem, my sound card doesnt work
[08:50] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Zoroaster: Does that help?
[08:50] <crimsun> neuron: what sound card?
[08:50] <Zoroaster> PuMpErNiCkLe, I'll try that sir
[08:50] <jramsey> Bambino|Gym, no pkgs are found with cpp-3.4; my module source for TIPC won't build; i get zillions of errors so i must not have the correct tool chain; i installed build-essentials and the make whines about needing gcc 3.4
[08:51] <ltR20> where can i report ubuntu bugs
[08:51] <crimsun> jramsey: build-essential installs gcc-4.0 and g++-4.0
[08:51] <crimsun> jramsey: you have to explicitly install gcc-3.4 if you want it
[08:51] <neuron> http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/dist/captive-1.1.7.tar.gz
[08:51] <neuron> ops, sorry, wrong paste
[08:51] <StdDoubt> is there anyway of installing xfree 3.3.6 using apt-get?
[08:51] <Bambino|Gym> jramsey: did you try to get the gcc-3.4-base ?
[08:51] <neuron> 0000:00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 50)
[08:51] <neuron> there you go
[08:51] <crimsun> neuron: pastebin ``lspci -v && lspci -nv && cat /proc/asound/cards && amixer -c0''
[08:51] <PuMpErNiCkLe> ltR20: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs
[08:52] <jramsey> crimsun, yep i see that now ... Bambino|Gym i tried that and no pkg was installed; crimsun where should i get gcc 3.4 and all assoc. tools/utils?
[08:52] <Determinist> clear
[08:52] <hellz_hunter> how do i setup my partitions so that the partitioner will allow me to use software raid?
[08:52] <hellz_hunter> it keeps saying that there is no partitions available for setting up the raid
[08:52] <crimsun> jramsey: sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4
[08:52] <juztin> what's the command to do a quick-restart/refresh of the gnome interface?
[08:52] <roryy> !info gcc-3.4
[08:52] <ubotu> gcc-3.4: (The GNU C compiler), section devel, is optional. Version: 3.4.4-6ubuntu8.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 504 kB, Installed size: 4556 kB
[08:52] <mario0> !easysource
[08:52] <jramsey> maybe i should uninstall build-essentials and start over??
[08:52] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[08:52] <watt> juztin, just kill it
[08:52] <juztin> watt, how?
[08:53] <juztin> killall xserver
[08:53] <juztin> ?
[08:53] <watt> u wanna kill the panel or the whole ?
[08:53] <juztin> watt, i just want it to refresh icons
[08:53] <watt> restart X
[08:53] <watt> Ctrl+Alt+Backspace
[08:53] <neuron> !pastebin
[08:53] <ubotu> hmm... pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[08:53] <watt> then do "sudo startx"
[08:53] <sam__> hello
[08:53] <Determinist> watt, not sudo ... startx is a user command
[08:54] <watt> i've experienced some errors without using sudo, to tell u the truth.
[08:54] <carthik> watt, juztin if you want to refersh only the panels, use $killall gnome-panel
[08:54] <watt> carthik, he said desktop icons too
[08:55] <crimsun> jramsey: leave build-essential alone
[08:55] <neuron> crimsun,  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11699
[08:55] <carthik> watt, that would be killall nautilus
[08:55] <carthik> watt nautilus and gnome-panel respawn when killed
[08:55] <Zoroaster> is anyone here running samba on a windows 2000 network with win2k servers doing dns?
[08:55] <watt> carthik,  just tried it, killing nautilus, didn't work @_@
[08:56] <carthik> watt ?? what didn't work?
[08:56] <crimsun> neuron: amixer sset 'IEC958' off && amixer sset 'IEC958 Capture Monitor' off
[08:56] <watt> i killed nautilus, but icons were there, even if i refreshed
[08:56] <carthik> watt, killall nautilus will kill nautilus and respawn it, and nautilus is the app that put icons on your desktop
[08:57] <watt> exactly
[08:57] <carthik> watt, respawn == restart, so t speak
[08:57] <watt> >_>
[08:57] <neuron> crimsun, done
[08:57] <crimsun> neuron: is sound audible now?
[08:58] <haGGis> having troubel installin nvidai driver. cant find pre configured kenral ?
[08:58] <arrick> !nforce
[08:58] <ubotu> arrick: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:58] <arrick> !nvidia
[08:58] <ubotu> it has been said that nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[08:59] <arrick> haGGis, ^^
[08:59] <jramsey> so gcc 3.4 seems installed; and when i try to build this module (TIPC from sourceforce) i get a warning about Module.symvers being mssing and modules will have no dependencies, then it spews build errors; any ideas??
[08:59] <haGGis> yeah i have done all that still tells me my kernal is not preconfigured
[08:59] <neuron> crimsun, wait a sec
[09:00] <Apostle^> hm
[09:00] <sabakonki> have you restarted gnome?
[09:01] <ubuntu> Hola a todos
[09:01] <Apostle^> !es
[09:01] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[09:03] <neuron> crimsun, its working now, thanks :D what was wrong?
[09:04] <crimsun> neuron: those two mixer elements were unmuted (enabled)
[09:04] <neuron> oh, thanks :D
[09:04] <Nukeador> hi all
[09:04] <neuron> is there any mixer option to set efects?  bass, treble, etc?
[09:04] <sirgecs> Holap!
[09:05] <sirgecs> alguien habla espaol??
[09:05] <crimsun> neuron: if they're not listed in ``alsamixer -c0'', no
[09:05] <sirgecs> any one speak spanish??
[09:05] <andor> sirgecs: yo
[09:05] <arrick> ok guys, I have a sigma pci dual hdd adapter here, will ubuntu be able to recognize it if I load it into my server?
[09:05] <sirgecs> holap andor!
[09:05] <arrick> its never been used
[09:05] <andor> que hay
[09:05] <arrick> !es
[09:05] <sirgecs> de donde eres??
[09:05] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[09:05] <neuron> okay crimsun, thanks again :D
[09:05] <andor> ubotu: ;)
[09:06] <ubotu> andor: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:06] <arrick> sirgecs, ^^
[09:06] <andor> jajajaja
[09:06] <andor> viva bot
[09:06] <Chousuke> hmm
[09:06] <sirgecs> hoka arruck
[09:06] <sirgecs> arrick
[09:06] <Chousuke> I managed to get xgl to work
[09:06] <arrick> np :-)
[09:06] <Chousuke> but it still uses loads of CPU when I do tricks with it :/
[09:07] <sirgecs> ke bkn pocas veces me avia metido al IRc
[09:07] <Chousuke> it's not slow though so I guess it's accelerated
[09:07] <neuron> is there any way of converting ntfs to ext{2,3} ?
[09:07] <Zoroaster> I will ask one last time, and then I will not give up, but I just wont ask anymore, Ill find a Microsoft Certified Professional, they should know everything
[09:07] <sirgecs> thats is cool
[09:07] <Zoroaster> ok, here's my situation
[09:08] <hellz_hunter> how do i setup my partitions so that the partitioner will allow me to use software raid?
[09:08] <hellz_hunter> it keeps saying that there is no partitions available for setting up the raid
[09:08] <aliquis> off topic: rotfl http://funny.karmark.org/Funny%20pictures/images/card_jpg.jpg
[09:09] <Zoroaster> my workstation that I am on is 5.10 ubuntu machine that works perfect, on it is installed vmware 5.5, I run multiple winxp machines virtually on it, and recently I set up a ubuntu server only machine virtually
[09:09] <duelboot> aliquis...funny...very funny! I wonder how may people would try it
[09:09] <gepatino> hellz_hunter, depending on the type of raid you need to define at least two partitions of the same size and mark them as raid partitions
[09:09] <aliquis> duelboot: probably quite a few, even if it's 1 in 50.000
[09:10] <gepatino> then you define the raid device using those partitions
[09:10] <aliquis> duelboot: my sister where reading mail on my computer one day "what is this?" *click*
[09:10] <duelboot> nooooooooooooooooooooo
[09:10] <ltR20> Hey, does anyone know why my Soundbar in GNOME is inverted?
[09:10] <aliquis> ltR20: is it really?
[09:10] <ltR20> Yes Aliquis
[09:10] <Zoroaster> the ubuntu 5.10 virtual machine runs fine as a dhcp client, i mean it pings other things on the nwteork, and it can even go out through my firewall appliance (firebox2) and out to the internet
[09:10] <aliquis> ltR20: do you know it should be the other way? ;D
[09:10] <duelboot> ltr20, I give up...why?   lol
[09:10] <ltR20> you know the little sound icon you drag into your taskbar
[09:11] <ltR20> well if i move it up my volume goes down
[09:11] <Zoroaster> but when I give it a static IP, I can the ping anything on the network except for the firewall, and no internet
[09:11] <ltR20> and if i move it down it goes up
[09:11] <aliquis> maybe that is how they wanted it to work?
[09:11] <aliquis> ltR20: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[09:11] <simian> how do i change display
[09:11] <aliquis> kmix works the right way
[09:11] <aliquis> ;)
[09:11] <Zoroaster> the names get resolved, because it talks to my woin2k dns server, but it just wont go out
[09:11] <ltR20> aliquis will it mess up?
[09:11] <ltR20> my OS
[09:12] <aliquis> no, it will only add kde
[09:12] <ltR20> oh, i already did that.
[09:12] <aliquis> if you would accept kde instead of gnome
[09:12] <arrick> ok guys, I have a sigma pci dual hdd adapter here, will ubuntu be able to recognize it if I load it into my server?
[09:12] <Zoroaster> what makes no sense, is my firewall does not appear to be blocking or refusing  my ubuntu server
[09:12] <ltR20> I like GNOME better though.
[09:12] <aliquis> k
[09:12] <aliquis> maybe you can get another mixer control?
[09:12] <aliquis> i have no idea, don't use gnome
[09:12] <duelboot> alquis, a little overkill, eh, ltr20 you still can use gnome and load the kde app
[09:12] <arrick> Zoroaster, do you haev the default gateway set?
[09:13] <haGGis> whats the best way to tell if my grx card is woekin ok
[09:13] <haGGis> well grx drivers
[09:13] <Zoroaster> arrick, yes
[09:13] <goofrider> !php
[09:13] <ubotu> Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[09:13] <simian> how do i change display, i can't see anything under 'administration'
[09:13] <rverrips> Hi - I'm trying out DAPPER Flight 6 - Using gnome-screensaver for the first time (used to xscreensaver but willing to accept the change) - Strange thing is the screensaver starts up randomly for no reason:  I'm in the middle of typing an e-mail and suddenly the screensaver pops up ... I'm plaing tuxracer in a window, and the screensaver pops up?  Anyone else experiencing that?
[09:13] <Zoroaster> arrick, yes, it is the firewall
[09:13] <aliquis> haGGis: do you have glxgears?
[09:13] <arrick> Zoroaster, which firewall do you use?
[09:13] <rappo> has anyone gotten 2.6.16 to work in ubuntu?
[09:13] <haGGis> yeah run that
[09:14] <aliquis> haGGis: if glxgears work i think glx works
[09:14] <Zoroaster> default         192.168.5.1     0.0.0.0         UG    0      0        0 eth0
[09:14] <Nukeador> where can i see the language support state in the last flight? I mean which languages are fully supported and so on
[09:14] <haGGis> yeah that works fine is there any games i can try to that i can install easy
[09:14] <Zoroaster> arrick, I use a watchguard Firebox II
[09:14] <arrick> hey change the 0.0.0.0 to 255.255.255.255
[09:14] <Zoroaster> on my network 2 things can be a gateway
[09:14] <aliquis> haGGis: i guess tuxracer uses glx
[09:15] <arrick> the 0's will mess you up everytims
[09:15] <haGGis> kool can i get that fron repos
[09:15] <Zoroaster> my firebox and a cisco router I have for our frame relay circuits
[09:15] <Madeye> guys, how to access webDav with ubuntu gnome?
[09:15] <Zoroaster> but if I were to set the framerouter as the gateway, it would just forward to the firewall
[09:15] <arrick> yep
[09:15] <haGGis> what are thye best games u can install
[09:15] <aliquis> haGGis: boson - an OpenGL wargame for KDE
[09:15] <aliquis> billard-gl - 3D billiards game
[09:15] <Zoroaster> arrick
[09:15] <Zoroaster> arrick, let me try that
[09:16] <arrick> yeah Zoroaster
[09:16] <aliquis> and so on, apt-cache search game|grep -i gl
[09:16] <arrick> Zoroaster, if that doesnt work, use the same gateway for both, or your internet will default rejet
[09:16] <arrick> reject
[09:17] <Zoroaster> arrick, what you mean for both?  and where would I add the netmask to the gateway?  in the interfaces file?
[09:17] <EvilDin> how can i install mysql-server if i don't have cdrom on server
[09:17] <arrick> in the router
[09:18] <arrick> then add the same to the interfaces file on the ubuntu machine
[09:18] <haGGis> does any 1 know how to slower fan speen on a Nvida grx card so it not so loud . windows drivers do this auto
[09:18] <_jason> EvilDin: mysql-server is in the repositories
[09:18] <aliquis> EvilDin: install over the network using apt-get install mysql-server?
[09:18] <EvilDin> found
[09:18] <aliquis> if that is the name of the package
[09:18] <EvilDin> i have in source.list cdrom
[09:18] <jramsey> ok here's the root problem; i am missing something ... the source to this module has includes like this: #include <linux/tipc.h> and i build it using KERNELDIR=/usr/src/linux-source-2.6.12; what's with the <linux...> include path in the source??
[09:19] <rappo> how come when I try to apt-get install linux-tree it tells me it can't find linux tree? :(
[09:19] <finley> where is it documented what constitutes a "higher version" for a given package?
[09:19] <jramsey> do i need some environ var?
[09:19] <haGGis> does any 1 know how to slower fan speen on a Nvida grx card so it not so loud . windows drivers do this auto
[09:19] <_jason> !info linux-tree
[09:19] <ubotu> linux-tree: (Linux kernel tree for building prepackaged Ubuntu kernel images), section devel, is optional. Version: 2.6.12.16 (breezy), Packaged size: 21 kB, Installed size: 48 kB
[09:19] <_jason> rappo: do you have the main repository enabled?
[09:20] <rappo> in sources.list? yeah
[09:20] <_jason> rappo: then it shouldn't say that.  Can you put your /etc/apt/sources.list on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ ?
[09:20] <Random_Transit> hey, i just installed Slackware on a separate hard drive, and i want to know what i should put in my /boot/grub/menu.lst so that GRUB will see it
[09:21] <arrick> hey Zoroaster check out this page http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/4593
[09:21] <rappo> _jason one sec... doing this on my laptop, gonna jump on irc there
[09:21] <Zoroaster> arrick, will do sir
[09:21] <arrick> look inder saving grace
[09:21] <arrick> under
[09:22] <rapptop> _jason: http://pastebin.com/646651
[09:22] <finley> are higher package version numbers determined by alpha-numeric sort?
[09:22] <aliquis> finley: probably more intelligent than that
[09:22] <_jason> !info linux-tree dapper
[09:22] <aliquis> finley: since i read some list of 10 badest things with rpm and that was one of them
[09:23] <_jason> rapptop: it doesn't exist in dapper, try #ubuntu+1
[09:23] <djs_2_6> Hi, can anyone tell me the command to make and format a new partition please?
[09:23] <aliquis> djs_2_6: fdisk and newfs
[09:23] <rappo> _jason ahh, thanks.. forgot about the +1
[09:23] <finley> aliquis: there are complicated ways of affecting "priorities", that go into considering which packages to install,
[09:23] <arrick> brb
[09:23] <finley> but ultimately, if priorities are the same, apt chooses the higher package number
[09:24] <djs_2_6> aliquis - Thank you so very much.
[09:24] <teclo> Hello, mounting a NFS share takes around 1 minute and 30 seconds in ubuntu... what am I doing wrong ?
[09:24] <wicked_> what is the difference between gtk+2.x and metacity
[09:24] <simonpca> plop
[09:24] <finley> so, I'm interested in how $higher_version_number is determined
[09:24] <aliquis> finley: but still i guess apt-get would choose for instance "qt" over "qt-0.99"
[09:24] <Nukeador> where can i see the language support state in the last flight? I mean which languages are fully supported and so on
[09:24] <roryy> i have no 'newfs' on my system, but I do have mkfs
[09:24] <aliquis> finley: which wasn't the case with rpm, and probably not with the sort command either, althought i have no idea
[09:24] <bliss1_> helo
[09:25] <aliquis> ok, mkfs then ;/
[09:25] <finley> aliquis: can you point me at a reference document?
[09:25] <hellz_hunter> w00t i figured it out
[09:25] <juztin> do those 'drawers' that you can add to your gnome panel eat a lot of memory?
[09:25] <wicked_> !metacity
[09:25] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, wicked_
[09:25] <wicked_> !gtk
[09:25] <ubotu> wicked_: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:25] <aliquis> finley: I don't know what you are used with, cfdisk is quite userfriendly
[09:25] <aliquis> finley: and then probably mkfs -t ext3 /dev/hda3 or whatever is enough
[09:25] <UbuntuNewbie> hello everyone
[09:25] <finley> ?
[09:26] <aliquis> ok, wrong person
[09:26] <aliquis> :D
[09:26] <finley> np ;-)
[09:26] <roryy> wicked_: afaik gtk is a gui toolkit library, while metacity is a window manager
[09:26] <simian> how do i change my display in ubuntu, i can't see anything under 'administration'
[09:26] <UbuntuNewbie> how do i install KDE desktop
[09:26] <wicked_> ok because on gnome-look you can choose between matecity or gtk
[09:26] <wicked_> for themes
[09:26] <bliss1_> roryy: what's happening man
[09:27] <jeff_> ubuntunewbie: open a terminal, then type 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop'
[09:27] <wicked_> my last question is why should i use ubuntu that is base on debian and not debian directly?
[09:27] <jeff_> ubuntunewbie: then type ur password
[09:28] <bolsh> Eveing
[09:28] <jeff_> ubuntunewbie: then follow the instructions
[09:28] <Madeye> any GUI client to access webDAV?
[09:28] <roryy> bliss1_: not much. you?
[09:28] <DBO> wicked_, the repos and release cycles are different, I prefer ubuntu's
[09:28] <aliquis> finley: ask in #debian or something, I have no idea how it works, but I would guess they have implemented some smarted algoritm then just running sort of all the available versions
[09:28] <simian> are there any ubuntu guru's that can tell me how to change my display in ubuntu, i can't see anything under 'administration'
[09:28] <DBO> wicked_, debian can be a lot slower to update in some areas
[09:28] <jramsey> anyone know how code like #include <linux/tipc.h> finds the linux kernel source tree if the make is run with  KERNELDIR=/usr/src/linux-source-2.6.12 ???
[09:28] <bliss1_> roryy: got the partition sorted
[09:29] <finley> aliquis: just popped #debian open.  thx, i'll give that a go.
[09:29] <wicked_> so is right right to say ubuntu is like an improve debian os?
[09:29] <roryy> simian: try System -> Preferences -> Screen Resolution
[09:29] <DBO> wicked_, no, its fair to say ubuntu is debian for the home user
[09:29] <wicked_> ho ok i get it
[09:29] <aliquis> wicked_: because ubuntu relases a stable version much more often than debian, I would guess their installer is a little bit more automatic althought I haven't ran debian since slink, and finally the debian community is quite "elitism" and the ubuntu is more newbie friendly
[09:29] <roryy> bliss1_: good to hear
[09:30] <simian> roryy: thanks but that only lets me change the resolution, i want to change the display driver
[09:30] <EvilDin> am why testphp.php is not executed when i try, my bowser just want to download it
[09:30] <bliss1_> roryy pleased as punch
[09:30] <wicked_> yah this is one thing that i noticed about the  good support for ubuntu
[09:30] <roryy> simian: what driver?
[09:30] <jeff_> does anybody here use visualboyadvance?
[09:30] <aliquis> wicked_: ubuntu release each 6 months and debian is more like 2-3 years between releases nowadays
[09:30] <jramsey> _jason, do you  know how code like #include <linux/tipc.h> finds the linux kernel source tree if the make is run with  KERNELDIR=/usr/src/linux-source-2.6.12 ???
[09:31] <jjk5> Hey everyone.  I'm having trouble with my resolution in Ubuntu.  I'm running 5.10, I added my resolution to xorg.conf, and reconfigured xserver to no avail.  Any other tricks?
[09:31] <_jason> jramsey: no, I don't know how that works
[09:31] <simian> roryy: i want to use a generic lcd display rather than dell display driver
[09:31] <jramsey> _jason, ok txs will keep looking
[09:31] <rambo3> what ever happend to simlinking source to linux dir
[09:31] <wicked_> wow 2 or 3 years.. thats a long time
[09:31] <aliquis> wicked_: Also I guess having that guy with the money behind ubuntu helps to spread linux and the dist quite a lot. (I have no idea what his name is, just know what he can afford to give away free cds;)
[09:32] <aliquis> wicked_: yeah, so debian stable uses xfree86 still
[09:32] <aliquis> and so on
[09:32] <sonic> hey, does anyone know any p2p programs like limewire I can install on Ubuntu?
[09:32] <roryy> simian: ah, i'm not familiar with that case.  You may need to edit the X Window config file (/etc/X11/xorg.conf)
[09:32] <aliquis> sonic: sudo apt-cache search p2p
[09:32] <VincentMX> where can i find the firefox plugins directory?
[09:32] <Zoroaster> how would I add a default gateway but change the gateways default netmask of 0.0.0.0
[09:32] <juztin> is there a file i can look at in terminal to view what launchers are in my gnome panel?
[09:32] <wicked_> yah that freee cds is a nice thing
[09:32] <simian> roryy: thanks i'll have a look
[09:33] <EvilDin> help php problem i install apache2 php4 mysql-server, i make testphp.php as it write at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP and when i try to acess it i get windows for downloading it! what did i do wrong!
[09:33] <Zoroaster> route add default gw 192.168.5.1 (then what)?
[09:33] <_jason> ubotu: tell EvilDin about lamp
[09:33] <bliss1_> DBO;  sleep well?
[09:33] <rambo3> sonic dc++ bittorrent
[09:33] <aliquis> sonic:
[09:33] <aliquis> dcgui - Direct Connect Graphical client (GTK+) (peer-based file-sharing)
[09:33] <aliquis> gtk-gnutella - shares files in a peer to peer network
[09:33] <aliquis> and so on
[09:34] <EvilDin> i did this
[09:34] <DBO> bliss1_, yes...  waiting for brain to start working so I can start answering questions
[09:34] <ltR20> sonic, nicotin
[09:34] <simian> roryy: jsut to let you know why, when i try to run quake i get this error message:   WARNING: rvServerScanGUI::Clear() - invalid scanGUI
[09:34] <simian> idRenderSystem::Shutdown()
[09:34] <simian> Sys_Error: SDL_SetVideoMode failed: Couldn't find matching GLX visual
[09:34] <ltR20> nicotine*
[09:34] <_jason> EvilDin: you are missing some packages that that page mentions
[09:34] <wicked_> guess if i wanna try debian somehow im in the right time i thought they have a recent release
[09:34] <sonic> aliquis:  thanks for the help, but how would I secelct and install something like that?
[09:34] <deefzi> what is the equivalent for photoshop's "stroke" in gimp?
[09:34] <rambo3> !tekk EvilDin about lamp
[09:34] <ubotu> rambo3: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:34] <bliss1_> DBO: lets see 4 untill noon?
[09:34] <EvilDin> which one
[09:35] <_jason> EvilDin: I don't remember the exact name, just read the page
[09:35] <deefzi> valknut recommendation for dc-client. dcpp sucks.
[09:35] <sonic> or how would I find and install nicotine?
[09:35] <EvilDin> i just compy one by one
[09:35] <deefzi> it's bulk but hey, it works.
[09:35] <EvilDin> and i didn't miss any
[09:35] <DBO> wicked_, debians newest release, sarge, isnt bad, but to be honest its mostly aimed at a server kind of environment
[09:35] <_jason> EvilDin: you said ``i install apache2 php4 mysql-server'', that doesn't include libapache2-mod-auth-mysql and php4-mysql
[09:35] <DBO> wicked_, though it does work fine as a desktop install
[09:36] <EvilDin> i did both of that
[09:36] <bliss1_> DBO: dead right and etch is good to although its still testing
[09:36] <EvilDin> do i have to configure apache conf file anywhere?
[09:37] <_jason> EvilDin: maybe, I used php5 and didn't have to.  But since you are using php4 it may not do it for you
[09:37] <aliquis> sonic: apt-get install <whatever>
[09:37] <_jason> EvilDin: do you have libapache2-mod-php4 installed?
[09:38] <aliquis> sonic: for instance apt-get install dcgui
[09:38] <Griff> don't forget sudo :P
[09:38] <DBO> sonic, you will need to put sudo in front of that command aliquis mentioned
[09:38] <EvilDin> yes
[09:38] <trainer> Hi, I am trying to get quicktime movies to work in firefox. According to a forums thread I can use mplayer for this, but there are several mplayer packages listed, how do I know which is the right one?
[09:38] <sonic> ItR20:  Thanks, I've installed nicotine.  Do you have any information about setting it up?
[09:39] <NRG88> hi, what if a machine can't boot from cd?
[09:39] <NRG88> can i make a floppy, form with it boots, and then it passes on to the cd?
[09:39] <_jason> !smartboot
[09:39] <ubotu> from memory, smartboot is If you can't boot from your CD-ROM Drive, go here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SmartBootManagerHowto
[09:39] <DBO> trainer, I believe it is mozilla-mplayer
[09:39] <bluecookies> hello
[09:39] <Griff> NRG88: search the ubuntu wiki; i think i saw something there once on booting from usb if you have that option
[09:39] <bluecookies> does anybody would help me
[09:40] <trainer> DBO: that will work in ff?
[09:40] <_jason> !helpme
[09:40] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[09:40] <bernini> i how do i adjust screen resolution to make icons and text look bigger in kde destop. they look soo tiny
[09:40] <NRG88> Griff, if the machine is old enough not to boot from a floppy, then it will boot from usb?
[09:40] <DBO> trainer, I donno, let me know, I never tried
[09:40] <bliss1_> DBO; I think if was not for this chat room and the others in other languages and the forum there be still thousands still
[09:40] <NRG88> but thanks, i'll search the wiki :)
[09:41] <bliss1_> DBO: who will be still with windows
[09:41] <_jason> NRG88: ubotu gave you the link for floppy boot
[09:41] <Drac[Server] > I'm trying to install Ubuntu on this old Mac Performa 6115CD. I know it's only supposed to be for G3 and higher, but it SHOULD be able to run on this, slow as it might be. Is there any reason why the Performa would reject the CD?
[09:41] <NRG88> ok, thanks :)
[09:41] <conga> ubuntu install just like windows lol
[09:41] <Griff> NRG88: exactly what kind of machine are you trying to put this on??
[09:41] <conga> click click click
[09:41] <conga> is it a good thing?
[09:41] <NRG88> an old one, but i think i won't put ubuntu
[09:41] <DBO> bliss1_, linux is not for everyone, some people like the point click and crash interface, and we need to respect that =P
[09:41] <NRG88> maybe it won't work with 32 mb of ram
[09:41] <conga> hehehe
[09:42] <EvilDin> dhem it simple doesn't open ph
[09:42] <EvilDin> php
[09:42] <bluecookies> HELP ME
[09:42] <bluecookies> please
[09:42] <Griff> NRG88: wow, yea that's a struggle, gnome definately can't run on that; you might have to install the server edition and then manually install fluxbox or something else of that nature
[09:42] <_jason> bluecookies: you need to aska  question for us to help you
[09:42] <bliss1_> DBO: you right its a culture thing some linux chats and forums will not give you the time of day or night
[09:43] <_jason> EvilDin: did you restart apache?
[09:43] <NRG88> yeah, i think i'll install xfce, or fluxbox
[09:43] <bluecookies> sorry, i'm a newbie
[09:43] <NRG88> but i prefer xfce
[09:43] <Drac[Server] > No comment on the Performa?
[09:43] <DBO> bluecookies, have you installed the drivers for your video?
[09:43] <EvilDin> yes
[09:43] <EvilDin> many time
[09:43] <bluecookies> this  my problems
[09:43] <NRG88> and maybe i'll need to make a linux distro myself ;)
[09:43] <graveson> what can i use to convert a .rm file to mp3
[09:43] <bluecookies> video drivers?
[09:43] <bernini> i how do i adjust screen resolution to make icons and text look bigger in kde destop. they look soo tiny
[09:43] <DBO> bluecookies, whats video card are you using?
[09:43] <graveson> or wma
[09:44] <bluecookies> nvidia
[09:44] <bluecookies> why?
[09:44] <EvilDin> i ca nremove
[09:44] <Griff> NRG88: that will probably be ok; and good luck on your own distro, let me know when you make it to distrowatch.com top 100 :D
[09:44] <DBO> bluecookies, wait, Im troubleshooting the wrong guy
[09:44] <EvilDin> i can remove and try again
[09:44] <bluecookies> ok
[09:44] <_jason> EvilDin: grep -R AddType /etc/apache2/* | grep php, pastebin please
[09:44] <bluecookies> may i ask something
[09:44] <DBO> bluecookies, what is your problem?
[09:44] <_jason> ubotu: tell bluecookies about ask
[09:44] <NRG88> heh :D i only want to make a ripped to the bone debian, but with multimedia capabilities, maybe wine, only for my friend
[09:44] <bluecookies> well. i mount my hda (vfat) to /mnt/Windows
[09:44] <EvilDin> grep: pastebin: No such file or directory
[09:44] <EvilDin> grep: please: No such file or directory
[09:45] <NRG88> i found a great little program for this
[09:45] <_jason> EvilDin: without the part after the comma :)
[09:45] <EvilDin> :D
[09:45] <bluecookies> then when i restart my computer
[09:45] <EvilDin> ups
[09:45] <aliquis> Griff: It would be tiresome to put sudo in front of each comment
[09:45] <NRG88> mkdostro maker
[09:45] <bluecookies> i must re mount it again
[09:45] <DBO> bluecookies, you are going to need to add the entry to your /etc/fstab file
[09:45] <trainer> DBO: indeed it worked
[09:45] <EvilDin> this /etc/apache2/apache2.conf:#AddType application/x-httpd-php .php
[09:45] <bluecookies> can i make auto mount
[09:45] <_jason> ubotu: tell bluecookies about vfat
[09:45] <DBO> trainer, good to hear
[09:45] <bluecookies> how
[09:45] <trainer> thanks!
[09:45] <EvilDin> this /etc/apache2/apache2.conf:#AddType application/x-httpd-php-source .phps
[09:46] <_jason> EvilDin: that's it?
[09:46] <Drac[Server] > aliquis, there's a command to keep the sudo command line open. :P
[09:46] <EvilDin> this /etc/apache2/mods-available/php4.conf: AddType application/x-httpd-php .php .phtml .php3
[09:46] <aliquis> Drac[Server] : sudo sh works for me
[09:46] <_jason> EvilDin: use a pastebin
[09:46] <EvilDin> and this /etc/apache2/mods-available/php4.conf: AddType application/x-httpd-php-source .phps
[09:46] <Drac[Server] > aliquis, yeah.. that... I thought you didn't know...
[09:46] <DBO> bluecookies, read the link ubotu sent you, it will help you out
[09:47] <jeff_> hey guys
[09:47] <bluecookies> ok
[09:47] <jeff_> does anybody use visualboy advance?
[09:47] <_jason> EvilDin: I guess you need to make symlinks to the mods available php stuff in mods-enabled... any apache guru know if this is the proper way?
[09:47] <EvilDin> _jason http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11700
[09:47] <aliquis> Drac[Server] : I've ran linux/bsd/solaris one way or the other since 95
[09:48] <teclo> Hi there, when I insert a usb key, it gets mounted three times in three different mountpoints, and then in konqueror I get errors saying that it cannot read /media/sda1 and /media/sdb  .... any idea ?
[09:48] <DBO> aliquis, have you tried solaris 10?  uhg
[09:48] <Drac[Server] > aliquis, ah.. sorry... Honestly, I didn't think you were a newbie. I just figured I'd help if possible. My mistake. :P
[09:48] <ltR20> what's a good alternative to DREAMWEAVEER
[09:48] <aliquis> SunOS unknown 5.11 snv_28 i86pc i386 i86pc
[09:48] <_jason> EvilDin: ls /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/
[09:49] <FlannelKing> ltR20: nvu
[09:49] <EvilDin> where do i do this
[09:49] <EvilDin> ups
[09:49] <aliquis> Drac[Server] : I'm quite lazy and have never worked with it so I'm not _that_ skilled thought
[09:49] <EvilDin> ok
[09:49] <EvilDin> cgi.load userdir.conf userdir.load
[09:49] <siezer> anyone in here have a fresh "virgin" installation of ubuntu? I need to figure out what the 'default' package list is
[09:49] <ltR20> FLannelKIng - does it handle css well?
[09:49] <sfar> How can make so i start "system monitor" by pressing ctrl+alt+del ?
[09:49] <abonilla> Ok, so now that /. talks about a Linux virus... :) Which culd be the best antivirus for Linux? I think I have one installed, I don't recall the name :)
[09:49] <_jason> EvilDin: ls /etc/apache2/mods-available/
[09:50] <watt> clamav maybe?
[09:50] <Drac[Server] > aliquis, I know the feeling. :P
[09:50] <aliquis> DBO: just a little, used it as desktop before ubuntu for a short while but i couldn't get any sip client to run and there are no new versions of kde available and so on so i decided to try ubuntu instead and see where the most popular linux dist where now
[09:50] <EvilDin> am big list
[09:50] <abonilla> watt: that one.
[09:50] <_jason> EvilDin: pastebin
[09:50] <aliquis> siezer: anything within the category base?
[09:50] <siezer> if somebody could run:  dpkg -l | awk '{print $2}' > packagelist  on a virgin install and send it to me, id be grateful
[09:50] <EvilDin> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11701
[09:50] <aliquis> atleast i think that is what they call it
[09:50] <gma> has anybody refreshed their dapper install recently? I'm wondering if anything is broken before I hit return...
[09:50] <DBO> aliquis, Sun 10 can be a real nightmare to administer at times...  makes your head asplode
[09:51] <aliquis> DBO: I want to.. uhm.. accidently find the sys/network admin cds somewhere in the forest
[09:51] <bluszcz> anyone can talk me about pci express cards?
[09:51] <aliquis> DBO: But I haven't had any luck, and amazon got two solaris 10 exam books but neither of them seems real good
[09:51] <aliquis> DBO: so I can't decide which one to get
[09:51] <aliquis> DBO: I've only played around a little with zones and zfs
[09:51] <odla> how's the espresso installer...does it still have a bunch of bugs?
[09:51] <EvilDin> is there maybe this problem because it seem that i previsuly have installed apache-common and it is still
[09:51] <miriam_> italia^????
[09:52] <siezer> aliquis nope. just looking for the package list thats in the "default" state
[09:52] <DBO> aliquis, the less the better =P
[09:52] <DBO> aliquis, sadly we are getting off topic
[09:52] <miriam_> ubuntu ita??
[09:52] <slavik> !it
[09:52] <FlannelKing> ltR20: it does. from what I can see.  uses spans instead of b/i tags and stuff
[09:52] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[09:52] <erez> how do i check the version of a certain package with apt-cache?
[09:52] <gma> erez, try apt-cache show
[09:52] <bernini> why doesicon and text in application appear so tiny in kde but fine in gnome
[09:52] <gma> erez, also try "man apt-cache"
[09:52] <erez> gma, thanks :)
[09:52] <_jason> EvilDin: let's both read some documentation on a2enmod, that seems to be the proper way :)
[09:53] <Trae> heh
[09:53] <Trae> anyone here play lxdoom before?
[09:53] <Trae> can't seem to get the sound to work
[09:53] <aliquis> siezer: With dselect and similair things you can see which category a package belongs to, and I think the most basic ones belonged to the category base
[09:53] <aliquis> siezer: so atleast those are needed
[09:53] <erez> gma: it's too late for me to read man pages, tomorow..
[09:53] <aliquis> anyway, I'll have to go practice reading now =P
[09:53] <ltR20> FlannelKIng, ANy other programs?
[09:53] <siezer> hrm
[09:53] <rambo3> erez apt-cache policy
[09:54] <Hexidigita1> woohoo!!... spent all day tinkering with gDesklets, and i got NOTHING done!
[09:54] <mlaci> i've just noticed that the dapper drake install cd is compiled for i386. is there an i686 version, guys?
[09:54] <FlannelKing> ltR20: for WYSIWYG? doubt it.  It's a horrid way to do web development
[09:54] <gma> erez, apt-cache tells you about everything that's available for installation, according to your cache
[09:54] <DBO> Hexidigita1, welcome to the end of your social life
[09:54] <gma> that's not the same as what's actually installed
[09:54] <patty5222> how do i install nvidia-glx
[09:54] <gma> erez, but you probably knew that
[09:54] <watt> DBO, lol
[09:54] <Hexidigita1> DBO, thank you, thank you  :)
[09:54] <ltR20> FlannelKing, I can do it by hand but i'm lazy
[09:54] <FlannelKing> mlaci: 386 is 686, you'll just have to update the kernel if you want.
[09:54] <aliquis> patty5222: google for ubuntu nvidia
[09:54] <slavik> mlaci: there is never i686 AFAIK
[09:54] <FlannelKing> ltR20: suggest you check out nvu then
[09:54] <abonilla> watt: any idea on how to keep it upTodate? i see it says by installing the source itself, but I really meant the db.
[09:54] <erez> gma: yea, thanks anyway :)
[09:55] <slavik> ubuntu is build with compatability in mind
[09:55] <_jason> EvilDin: 'a2enmod php4' seems to be the proper command, would you agree?
[09:55] <watt> abonilla, i'm sorry? wasn't paying attention.
[09:55] <gma> so has anybody recently updated their dapper build?
[09:55] <DBO> patty5222, sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[09:55] <aliquis> i have
[09:55] <gma> I'm trying to get a feel for stability...
[09:55] <EvilDin> probably
[09:55] <evil_skull> dfdfd
[09:55] <_jason> EvilDin: go for it
[09:55] <abonilla> watt: How do I make a "live update" of it?
[09:55] <gma> aliquis, how is it? mine is a few weeks old, but it's fine
[09:55] <watt> abonilla,  of what?
[09:55] <abonilla> watt: clamav
[09:55] <mlaci> FlannelKing, compiling the kernel for i686 doesn't provide optimal performance if all the other stuff is i386 compiled. or what do you mean by that?
[09:55] <EvilDin> Module php4 installed; run /etc/init.d/apache2 force-reload to enable.
[09:55] <watt> oh
[09:55] <DBO> patty5222, though it would be much better if you used nvidias drivers
[09:56] <EvilDin> what now
[09:56] <watt> abonilla,  i just know it, i don't use antivirus here
[09:56] <_jason> EvilDin: do what is said and try your php page again
[09:56] <cr3> how can I install automake1.5? it is listed in dpkg -l but I get: Package automake1.5 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[09:56] <abonilla> watt: ok.,
[09:56] <Hexidigita1> is there a command to refresh dns?  (ie. c:/ipconfig/registerdns in windows?)
[09:56] <Hexidigita1> or flushdns comparatively
[09:56] <abonilla> Anyone knows how to keep clamav up to latest "definitions"?
[09:56] <patty5222> DBO: hwo do i use nvidia drivers then
[09:57] <FlannelKing> mlaci: you get to take advantage of the newer assembly stuff, right.  Install as 386 then install the kernel for 686, the programs are the same.
[09:57] <Trae> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-58444.html
[09:57] <Trae> hmmm
[09:57] <EvilDin> it writes that is installed
[09:57] <liesje> oops
[09:57] <rambo3> why do you need autmake1.5 = cant you use 1.9
[09:57] <EvilDin> Apache/2.0.54 (Ubuntu) PHP/4.4.0-3ubuntu2 Server at morost.digital-silence.com Port 80
[09:57] <Trae> wonder if it's a problem with breezy
[09:57] <EvilDin> but doesn't seem to
[09:57] <DBO> patty5222, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75074
[09:57] <DBO> use method 2
[09:57] <delman> Hello!
[09:57] <_jason> EvilDin: your browser still tries to download the php?
[09:57] <delman> Couldn't you help me?
[09:57] <EvilDin> yes
[09:57] <DBO> yes
[09:57] <_jason> !helpme
[09:57] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[09:58] <rambo3> set +m and put rtfm as topic
[09:58] <abonilla> lol
[09:58] <EvilDin> ok it works
[09:58] <jerware> whats a good wmv player?
[09:58] <EvilDin> it was just mozzila history
[09:58] <EvilDin> :d
[09:58] <_jason> jerware: mplayer with w32codecs
[09:58] <delman> I have a question about ubuntu and linux
[09:58] <jerware> i cant find any inn synaptec
[09:58] <jerware> oh ok
[09:58] <DBO> delman, just ask
[09:58] <cr3> rambo3: ok, I'll use automake 1.9 then
[09:58] <delman> HOW TO INSTALL NEW PROGRAMS?
[09:58] <johannes__> m-,
[09:58] <watt> _jason,  the hard part is to find those codecs =p
[09:58] <_jason> EvilDin: ha, cool.  I'll update the wiki troubleshooting section.  You needed sudo for that program right?
[09:58] <EvilDin> yes
[09:58] <DBO> delman, Applications -> Add Applications
[09:58] <_jason> ubotu: tell jerware about mplayer
[09:59] <troytroy> _Jason: hi
[09:59] <EvilDin> sudo was needed
[09:59] <_jason> ubotu: tell jerware about w32codecs
[09:59] <rambo3> cr3 just apt-cache search autmake and see whats latest
[09:59] <EvilDin> ok will try other things to complete install
[09:59] <sfar> delman: system -> administration -> synapic
[09:59] <johannes__> hi ubotu
[09:59] <roryy> cr3: oddly enough, automake 1.4, and 1.6-1.9 are available, but not 1.5
[09:59] <DBO> sfar, thats the long way to get there :-P
[09:59] <delman> For example I want to install skype...I have downloaded the file ***.deb ... What to do next?
[10:00] <_jason> ubotu: tell delman about skype
[10:00] <jerware> i think i have w32codecs. i just gotta find  mplayer
[10:00] <bolsh> Is there any way to get decent sleep/wake going on ppc with Ubuntu?
[10:00] <jerware> i have played mpegs and wma so i think i have the codecs
[10:00] <DBO> delman,  "sudo dpkg -i <path to deb>" (without the < thingies)
[10:00] <_jason> jerware: your private messages from ubotu explain how to get mplayer
[10:01] <liesje> I have no idea how this works.  Never been on irc.  Help!!!!
[10:01] <_jason> liesje: just ask a question
[10:01] <liesje> well, i connected to the ubuntu server and i immediately came here
[10:01] <DBO> must be a full moon tonight...
[10:01] <EvilDin> am you can fix this help, you dont need to Change ports.conf so that it contains:
[10:01] <EvilDin> Listen 127.0.0.1:80
[10:01] <DBO> liesje, yes, its designed to do that
[10:01] <EvilDin> it has to be without 127.0.0.1
[10:02] <liesje> ok, i thought every server had different channels?
[10:02] <sfar> liesje: yes, this is just one of many
[10:02] <_jason> EvilDin: you can fix that one, I don't know anything about it
[10:02] <sfar> liesje: to join another channel type "/join #channel" ...
[10:02] <liesje> then how do i see the other channels on this server?
[10:02] <DBO> liesje, it does, if you want to just chat you can join the offtopid channel by typing "/j #ubuntu-offtopic"
[10:03] <DBO> liesje, in Xchat (which you are in) go to Window -> Channel List
[10:03] <liesje> ok, moment
[10:03] <bolsh> liesje, What are you looking for help with?
[10:03] <liesje> nothing really, just trying out irc
[10:04] <bolsh> liesje, Ah, you should probably try another channel. Interested in free software?
[10:04] <liesje> I love linux, if that's what you mean
[10:04] <bolsh> liesje, #linpeople is for you.
[10:04] <delman> skype depends on libqt3-mt | libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:3.3.3.2); however:
[10:04] <delman>   Package libqt3-mt is not installed.
[10:04] <delman>   Package libqt3c102-mt is not installed.
[10:04] <EvilDin> am how to set mysql root pass
[10:04] <bolsh> liesje, Or #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:05] <liesje> Actually, now I'm here.  Is there a good proggie to convert movies in linux?
[10:05] <liesje> like avi to let's say dvd
[10:05] <sonic> hey, can anyone tell me how to connect in nicotine?   It asks for a username and password, but I dont know what to type?
[10:05] <liesje> anything you want
[10:06] <liesje> Just invent a username and password, and you can connect in nicotine
[10:06] <m0r0n> Where can I find the default repository list of Ubuntu? I would like to reset my list.
[10:06] <roryy> !tell m0r0n about repos
[10:06] <DBO> !tell m0r0n about repos
[10:06] <EvilDin> _jason where can i change root pass for mysql
[10:06] <DBO> NUTS
[10:06] <m0r0n> Thanks :-)
[10:06] <sonic> ahh, excellent, thanks liesje
[10:07] <tonyyarusso> liesje: We have all kinds of fun in -offtopic :)  This morning we were discussing the morality of war, and tonight maybe purplefeltangel will pass out more hugglecakes :)
[10:07] <liesje> yw sonic
[10:07] <rambo3> in phpmyadmin
[10:07] <duelboot> what's the command to force a make to use 3.4?  Here's my error:  Makefile:33: Warning! your compiler version (4.0.2) does not match kernel compiler version (3.4.5)
[10:07] <sfar> liesje: let me know if you find a good converter :)
[10:07] <_jason> EvilDin: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=where+can+i+change+root+pass+for+mysql&btnG=Google+Search
[10:07] <roryy> duelboot: try 'CC=gcc-3.4 make'
[10:07] <DBO> duelboot CC=gcc-3.4 then export
[10:08] <duelboot> okay, which one is best?
[10:08] <duelboot> way?
[10:08] <roryy> 'export CC=gcc-3.4; make' is equivalent
[10:08] <duelboot> okay thx
[10:08] <duelboot> what does export do?
[10:09] <duelboot> is it permanent?
[10:09] <TheDracle> What's the proper way to set up environment variables on Ubuntu?
[10:09] <roryy> read 'help export'; roughly, it makes variables available for subprocesses
[10:09] <DBO> what he said
[10:09] <TheDracle> Specific user environment variables, and global ones.
[10:09] <duelboot> TheDracle, if something needs 4.0 in future, no prob right?
[10:09] <TheDracle> duelboot, What?
[10:09] <pogie> having trouble with a GeForce 6200, after installing the nvidia driver the screen is a dark and psychadelic blue. Any ideas? (Ubuntu 5.04)
[10:09] <DBO> duelboot, yes, you will be ok, its a one time kind of deal
[10:09] <roryy> TheDracle: for bash (shell) use, or something else?
[10:09] <delman> delman@mishka:~$ sudo dpkg -i /home/delman/Desktop/opera.deb
[10:09] <delman> Selecting previously deselected package opera.
[10:09] <delman> (Reading database ... 57952 files and directories currently installed.)
[10:09] <delman> Unpacking opera (from /home/delman/Desktop/opera.deb) ...
[10:09] <delman> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of opera:
[10:09] <delman>  opera depends on libqt3c102-mt; however:
[10:09] <delman>   Package libqt3c102-mt is not installed.
[10:10] <duelboot> thx
[10:10] <delman> dpkg: error processing opera (--install):
[10:10] <delman>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[10:10] <roryy> *sigh*
[10:10] <TheDracle> roryy, Just bash.
[10:10] <delman> Errors were encountered while processing:
[10:10] <roryy> please don't paste
[10:10] <delman>  opera
[10:10] <delman>  ---Help please!
[10:10] <sfar> !paste
[10:10] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[10:10] <jerware> _jason:  thanx for the stuff.  i apt-get mplayer but is choppy as hell.  will those web pages explain it?
[10:10] <_jason> jerware: are you playing a local file?
[10:11] <bluecookies> hi everyone
[10:11] <jerware> yes _jason
[10:11] <jerware> off my desktop
[10:11] <bluecookies> thanks for the help _jason and DBO
[10:11] <delman> People! I have a problem! Why I don't have a libqt3c102-mt???
[10:11] <_jason> bluecookies: np
[10:12] <_jason> jerware: what are your system specs?
[10:12] <jerware> i noticed an error of New_Face failed
[10:12] <_jason> jerware: install mplayer-fonts for that
[10:12] <jerware> google gives me balony
[10:12] <bluecookies> but i've other problem
[10:12] <jerware> oh ok
[10:12] <jerware> nice
[10:12] <_jason> jerware: I don't think that is what would cause ``jerkiness' though
[10:12] <roryy> TheDracle: ~/.bashrc for individual users; /etc/bash.bashrc for all users
[10:12] <jerware> i have a dell insprion 600m
[10:12] <jerware> oh
[10:12] <bluecookies> _jason: would u help me again
[10:13] <roryy> TheDracle: also read 'man bash', ~/.bash_profile and /etc/profile
[10:13] <zido> what is the name of USB storage devices under /dev/ ?
[10:13] <_jason> jerware: you may try 'mplayer -framedrop ~/Desktop/file' in a terminal and see if it helps
[10:13] <_jason> bluecookies: just ask, I'll help if I know how
[10:13] <zipper> Anyone who can recommend a good network trafficing tool for console?
[10:13] <helfrez> zido, will mount as scsi device
[10:13] <zipper> need to monitor some idiot trying to ddos
[10:13] <helfrez> dmesg should should the mounted location
[10:14] <bluecookies> when i install kbfx 4.8.0, i always return with an error
[10:14] <bluecookies> so the instalation was fail
[10:14] <sonik> hi
[10:14] <bluecookies> did u know about that
[10:14] <sonik> can help me plz?
[10:14] <sonik> E: No foi possvel obter lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Recurso temporariamente indisponvel)
[10:14] <sonik> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[10:15] <_jason> sonik: close synaptic if it is open
[10:16] <EvilDin> am problem - phpmyadmin give me that i have to edin conf file for secret pass (blowfish_secret) -- Am i don't find it
[10:16] <simonpca> edin?
[10:16] <jerware> hmmm still choppy
[10:16] <jerware> i'll google that
[10:16] <bluecookies> so how to install kbfx  with an easy ways
[10:16] <sonik> _jason, yes
[10:16] <sonik> its that
[10:16] <sonik> but i have another problem
[10:16] <sonik> A descompactar xserver-xgl (desde .../xserver-xgl_7.0.0-0ubuntu5_i386.deb) ...
[10:16] <sonik> dpkg: erro ao processar /var/cache/apt/archives/xserver-xgl_7.0.0-0ubuntu5_i386.deb (--unpack):
[10:16] <sonik>  a tentar sobre-escrever `/usr/share/man/man1/Xserver.1x.gz', que tambm est no pacote xserver-xorg-core
[10:16] <sonik> dpkg-deb: subprocesso paste morto pelo sinal (Pipe quebrado)
[10:16] <sonik> Foram encontrados erros enquanto processava:
[10:16] <sonik>  /var/cache/apt/archives/xserver-xgl_7.0.0-0ubuntu5_i386.deb
[10:16] <sonik> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[10:16] <_jason> sonik: please don't paste here, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[10:16] <sonik> A package failed to install.  Trying to recover:
[10:17] <sonik> _jason,  sorry :S
[10:17] <obontu> hello, how do i uninstall vmware workstation on ubuntu?
[10:17] <sonik> you know what can i do?
[10:17] <roryy> !tell sonik about xgl
[10:17] <whiter> hello
[10:17] <motin> hi
[10:17] <whiter> anyone know why my update isnt working
[10:17] <Spec> ...
[10:17] <Spec> magically?
[10:18] <obontu> hello, how do i uninstall vmware workstation on ubuntu?
[10:18] <sonik> roryy, yes, but its a apt problem s:
[10:18] <motin> you have to run "set updates 2 work" in root-terminal
[10:18] <whiter> eh
[10:18] <bluecookies> _jason can u help me
[10:18] <whiter> motin
[10:18] <sonik> you maybe know what can i do to force it to install
[10:18] <whiter> i should rephrase...
[10:18] <_jason> bluecookies: no, sorry I don't know anything about it
[10:18] <whiter> when i click "Install" it acts like its going to download them and update
[10:18] <whiter> meaning it grays them out
[10:18] <bluecookies> thanks _jason
[10:18] <_jason> !enter
[10:18] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[10:18] <whiter> but then it doesnt do anything
[10:18] <Alexandre> EveryBody: Hi guys. I install now the dapper. But i have pluged 2 hds with 4gb, how i do 1 hd with 8gb?!?!?!
[10:18] <obontu> hello, how do i uninstall vmware workstation on ubuntu?
[10:19] <motin> whiter: what happens when you try using the terminal?
[10:19] <Amaranth> !lvms
[10:19] <ubotu> Amaranth: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:19] <whiter> it works of course
[10:19] <Amaranth> hrm
[10:19] <bluecookies> what is dapper?
[10:19] <roryy> nonetheless, i suggest asking in #ubuntu+1.  You can read 'man dpkg' for the various --force options (there are lots)
[10:19] <_jason> !dapper
[10:19] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[10:19] <Amaranth> !lvm
[10:19] <ubotu> I heard lvm is (for the moment) http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/
[10:19] <Larimba> jason, ping
[10:19] <jrcunha> jason... you!!!
[10:19] <Amaranth> Alexandre: you want to read that
[10:19] <Larimba> jason, imdepa?
[10:19] <motin> whiter: run synaptic from terminal and see what you get
[10:19] <jrcunha> jason, ping of death now!!!
[10:20] <Alexandre> Amaranth: Ok
[10:20] <Larimba> jason, frame curitiba
[10:20] <jrcunha> jason, let's make a conference
[10:20] <Larimba> jrcunha, , it's not jason
[10:20] <xcore> Larimba o.O ?
[10:20] <bluecookies> is it, any forum that discuss about themes?
[10:20] <jrcunha> Larimba, are you sure??
[10:20] <Larimba> xcore, dai veadinho
[10:21] <xcore> Larimba what?
[10:21] <Larimba> jrcunha, yes
[10:21] <whiter> ive never used synaptic before, i only use apt on command line. and when the automatic update thingys come up i click install but it isnt working now. so how do i use synaptic to update?
[10:21] <Larimba> jrcunha, it's not him
[10:21] <_jason> Larimba, jrcunha: yes I don't think i am him
[10:21] <xcore> _jason where are you from? Badanha Republic?
[10:21] <jrcunha> jason, sorry... i must have confused you with another person..
[10:22] <abonilla> I'm not him either
[10:22] <_jason> jrcunha: np
[10:22] <bluecookies> _jason: do you know what forum that discuss about kde themes
[10:22] <whiter> kde-look.org
[10:22] <whiter> possibly?
[10:22] <xcore> bluecookies exactly
[10:22] <bluecookies> any otherelse
[10:23] <sonik> !codecs
[10:23] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories
[10:23] <sonik> !easysource
[10:23] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[10:24] <Larimba> ubotu, teu pai tem bota
[10:24] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Larimba
[10:24] <jrcunha> octho... how can i compile my kernel with suport to mp3?
[10:24] <metallitux> jrcunha, are you in US?
[10:24] <bimberi> !tell jrcunha about mp3
[10:24] <xcore> metallitux He is in Somalia!
[10:25] <roryy> linux kernel -- now with mp3 support
[10:25] <jrcunha> jrcunha, no.. i'm in Mars
[10:25] <metallitux> mp3 is illegal in US
[10:25] <metallitux> for *nix
[10:25] <roryy> heh
[10:25] <watt> lol
[10:25] <xcore> In Africa, the people frequently ask whi himself
[10:26] <watt> metallitux, why especially for *nix?
[10:26] <jrcunha> mettalinux ... where i came from we dont't have this problem....
[10:26] <Larimba> xcore, uhauhauhauhauh, eh uma bixa mesmo
[10:26] <jrcunha> mettalinux... Africa is a free continent
[10:26] <jrcunha> mettalinux .... if you want mp3, come to Africa
[10:26] <Mobus> how do I run .run files?
[10:26] <metallitux> nice ill have to move there
[10:27] <xcore> Mobus chmod +x bla.bin and then ./bla.bin
[10:27] <jrcunha> mattalinux...uhauhauhauha
[10:27] <metallitux> lol
[10:27] <Mobus> not .bin files .run files
[10:27] <EvilDin> am
[10:27] <metallitux> i have mp3
[10:27] <metallitux> but i like ogg better anyway
[10:27] <xcore> wow... then change the bin by the run? aehuaehueh
[10:27] <jrcunha> metalitux ... and you are in US?
[10:27] <EvilDin> how to make user at mysql that would be able to login to phpmyadmin
[10:27] <metallitux> same would say
[10:27] <metallitux> *some
[10:28] <metallitux> it depends on what legal people say in your area
[10:28] <jrcunha> metalitux..
[10:28] <bluecookies> does any body know, how to change the kmenu icon
[10:28] <jrcunha> mettalitux..let's stop talking about mp3..
[10:28] <metallitux> bluecookies, it's under icon themes
[10:28] <Larimba> bluecookies, control center
[10:28] <jc-denton> i'm on dapper so not sure if this is realted to this channel
[10:29] <jc-denton> when i press ctrl-b/f i get strange chars in the terminal
[10:29] <bluecookies> still don't know
[10:29] <jrcunha> jason, ping?
[10:29] <jc-denton> instead of moving the cursor one word
[10:29] <jc-denton> i'm using zsh
[10:29] <kbrooks> !dapper
[10:29] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[10:29] <kbrooks> !kubuntu
[10:29] <ubotu> I guess kubuntu is Ubuntu+KDE (not a fork) ; see http://kubuntu.org and you can go to #kubuntu for KDE-related help, or install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/
[10:29] <jc-denton> but it does not work with bash either
[10:29] <kbrooks> lets not go  offtopic here.
[10:29] <jc-denton> i ask here cos i think i had a similar problem with breezy
[10:30] <jc-denton> so it's probably not that off topic
[10:30] <skaperen> is it possible to download stuff from the internet with linux?
[10:30] <kbrooks> skaperen: yes...
[10:30] <skaperen> how?
[10:30] <DBO> wget URL
[10:31] <kbrooks> skaperen: well, CLI: wget URL
[10:31] <jc-denton> lol
[10:31] <skaperen> thats great
[10:31] <kbrooks> and GUI: use a download nmanager. a excellent one is kget for kde, and no i dont know of any equivalents for gnome
[10:31] <DBO> meh, I just use firefox to do my downloading
[10:32] <skaperen> can you upload stuff with firefox too?
[10:32] <kbrooks> dbo: you wont want to all the time
[10:32] <kbrooks> skaperen: no...
[10:32] <skaperen> why?
[10:32] <kbrooks> skaperen: because its a web browser...
[10:32] <DBO> kbrooks, oh I know, but casual use, firefox works just fine
[10:32] <EvilDin> why phpmyadmin doesn't have importing
[10:32] <kbrooks> EvilDin: #phpmyadmin
[10:33] <skaperen> who wants to upload anyway. I do mostly downloading
[10:34] <DBO> skaperen, if you mean to a FTP server, there is a plugin for firefox to allow you to upload
[10:34] <kbrooks> dbo: extension. :)
[10:35] <DBO> kbrooks... yes... extension...
[10:35] <[cro] smiley> how to play *.wma in rhythmbox?
[10:36] <jaye> has anyone else had problems booting the dapper install cd on ppc32?
[10:36] <patty522> i have a grforce 6600LE 256mb/DDR  is this classed as a legacy GPUs
[10:36] <bliss1_> hi
[10:36] <patty522> geforce*
[10:36] <keithhhh> sorry to ask but anyone know how to allow a webserver from my computer the problem is I have a d-link router blocking it.   (I know this isnt ubuntu specific, I just think people here are smart  ;)   )
[10:36] <DBO> patty522, no
[10:36] <patty522> gd
[10:37] <bliss1_> i have enabled logging in x-chat where will the logs be kept
[10:37] <neuron> where can i find ubuntu-s kenrnel sources? i want to install fuse as a kernel module and it seems to need the kernel source
[10:37] <DBO> patty522, what are you trying to do?
[10:38] <gepatino> neuron, the package was named something like linux-tree o kernel-tree
[10:38] <bimberi> neuron: linux-source-2.6.12
[10:38] <nickrud> bliss1_, ~/xchat2/xchatlogs
[10:38] <gepatino> neuron: try to find it in synaptic
[10:38] <bliss1_> nickrud; hello and thanks
[10:39] <patty522> install my graphic card
[10:39] <DBO> patty522, did you look at the link I gave you?
[10:39] <nickrud> bliss1_, or something spelled similar to that, anyway :)
[10:39] <[cro] smiley> how to play *.wma in rhythmbox?
[10:39] <patty522> yes, i cant use method 2 for some reason
[10:39] <neuron> okay,thanks, i installed it
[10:39] <DBO> what goes wrong?
[10:40] <ubuntu_> dfgdhg,kj
[10:40] <ubuntu_> ghgfhgfhj
[10:40] <jatos> hi
[10:40] <DBO> O_o
[10:40] <DBO> jatos, need help?
[10:41] <jatos> anyone know of some decent software I can use on a server for live video streaming
[10:41] <neuron> okay, i installed the kernel sources, where can i find them now? :D
[10:41] <jatos> I am rather desperate with this one
[10:41] <patty522> DBO: heres my log file   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11705
[10:42] <gepatino> neuron: I think it was /usr/src/linux
[10:42] <kingspawn> neuron: /usr/src/linux
[10:42] <DBO> patty522, you missed a step in method two
[10:42] <patty522> wat step
[10:43] <DBO> where you do CC=gcc-3.4 export
[10:43] <patty522> i did
[10:43] <DBO> did you su to root first, then do it, then type exit, then do it again?
[10:44] <DBO> because it used the wrong compiler
[10:44] <Amaranth> jatos: flumotion
[10:44] <patty522> ok i will try again
[10:44] <jatos> thanks amaranth
[10:44] <DBO> make sure you follow EVERY step letter for letter
[10:45] <neuron>         *** Cannot determine the version of the linux kernel source. Please
[10:45] <neuron>         *** prepare the kernel before running this script
[10:45] <DBO> neuron, is that your problem or are you reading from elsewhere?
[10:46] <newbuntu> can anyone tell me what are the 2 files needed by xine to play dvd's?
[10:46] <molinero> !xine
[10:46] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, molinero
[10:46] <neuron> DBO, its my problem, i`m trying to compile fuse
[10:46] <newbuntu> mine mysteriously dissappeared
[10:46] <molinero> !gcc
[10:46] <ubotu> methinks gcc is the GNU project C and C++ compiler.  From the command-line, type "man gcc" for a complete manual on gcc.  You can install gcc with 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'
[10:46] <DBO> neuron, you need to install your linux headers (I thinks)
[10:47] <john_jimmy> can anyone tell me how to run some app automatically when I login 2 fluxbox on ubuntu
[10:47] <bliss1_> nickrud; one of the logs is 1884265  in size the editor kate gies upand gives a null parameter
[10:47] <neuron> DBO, i need the kernel source not the kernel headers
[10:47] <tonyyarusso> I have 512MB of RAM on this system, but 'free' reports only 439MB.  Why?
[10:48] <nickrud> bliss1_, less will read it (get a better editor)
[10:48] <matah44> Bonsoir
[10:48] <john_jimmy> tonyyarusso, I think the rest is reserved for videoram
[10:48] <bimberi> !tell newbuntu about dvd
[10:49] <newbuntu> thanks
[10:49] <duelboot> DBO, I'm having the same error as patty522...did the export and still get this warning:  Makefile:33: Warning! your compiler version (4.0.2) does not match kernel compiler version (3.4.5)
[10:49] <DBO> neuron, so do a install of linux image and linux headers (headers are used for identification IIRC)
[10:49] <duelboot>     any suggestions?
[10:49] <tonyyarusso> john_jimmy: I have an ATI Radeon with 64MB built-in memory.
[10:49] <DBO> duelboot, are you compiling nvidia drivers?
[10:49] <duelboot> NO
[10:49] <duelboot> bestcrypt
[10:49] <john_jimmy> tonyyarusso, check ur bios setting and you will find the rest of the memory reserved there
[10:50] <tonyyarusso> john_jimmy: Okay, I'll look around next time I boot.  Do I want it that way?
[10:50] <Zimx> How do i delete a folder that's not empty?
[10:50] <bimberi> Zimx: rm -r
[10:50] <Zimx> thanks
[10:50] <strankan> what version/versions of the kernel is included inthe  ubuntu 5.10 release?
[10:50] <DBO> duelboot, "sudo -s" -> "CC=gcc-3.4" -> "export" -> "exit" -> "CC=gcc-3.4" -> "export" -> compile away
[10:50] <john_jimmy> tonyyarusso, Idont know...
[10:50] <bimberi> Zimx: yw :)
[10:50] <Bambino|Gym> !mplayer
[10:50] <ubotu> it has been said that mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[10:51] <john_jimmy> tonyyarusso, I too am confused in that matter
[10:51] <bimberi> cyphase: go for it!
[10:51] <tonyyarusso> john_jimmy: Hehe, all right.
[10:51] <duelboot> dbo thx will do now and let you know
[10:51] <DBO> duelboot, you HAVE installed gcc-3.4 correct?
[10:51] <tonyyarusso> Anyone know anything about reserved video memory set up in the bios?
[10:51] <duelboot> duh, yes!
[10:51] <DBO> :-P
[10:51] <roryy> DBO: 'export CC' or 'export CC=gcc-3.4'
[10:51] <DBO> oh right
[10:51] <DBO> damn
[10:52] <DBO> !language
[10:52] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[10:52] <DBO> (got myself)
[10:52] <bimberi> lol
[10:52] <DBO> duelboot, "sudo -s" -> "CC=gcc-3.4" -> "export CC" -> "exit" -> "CC=gcc-3.4" -> "export CC" -> compile away
[10:52] <roryy> the two parts of that sentence are not related by 'but'
[10:52] <duelboot> is that a change dbo or in addition
[10:53] <john_jimmy> tonyyarusso, I think you can reconfigure it with dpkg-reconfigure
[10:53] <DBO> a change, I forgot to add something to the export command
[10:53] <duelboot> okay
[10:53] <Zimx> Can i delete files that's not no longer work? Let's say i removed a program and theres still some files left in other folders?
[10:53] <mavric2001> anybody have information on getting printer to work?
[10:53] <john_jimmy> tonyyarusso, "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[10:53] <mavric2001> ive installed the foo2zjs patch, printer gets detected but will not print
[10:53] <tonyyarusso> john_jimmy: I don't think so...  unless there's some parameter I don't know about.  How would dpkg change a bios setting?
[10:53] <patty522> DBO:didnt work
[10:54] <Apostle^> tonyyarusso: no possible way it could.
[10:54] <duelboot> ARRRRRRGGGGHHHHHHHHH...Still!!!!!!!!! dbo
[10:54] <DBO> patty522, did it give you an error that your failled the compiler check?
[10:55] <mavric2001> any printer support people in here?
[10:55] <john_jimmy> tonyyarusso, sorry I wasnt clear about it the last time... I meant the video ram setting in the xserver ...not the bios setting
[10:55] <duelboot> lemme try to delete EVERYTHING associated with it...i ran the uninstall, but will look for other items...will let you know
[10:55] <john_jimmy> tonyyarusso, check the bios too... and adjust it if you can
[10:55] <john_jimmy> tonyyarusso, let me know if you can dig up something
[10:55] <tonyyarusso> john_jimmy: Ah.  I've been through that reconfigure a few times and don't recall seeing it, so I'm a little surprised.
[10:56] <patty522> DBO: this is one of the errors   Kernel module load error: insmod: error inserting './usr/src/nv/nvidia.ko':
[10:56] <patty522>    -1 Invalid module format
[10:56] <DBO> patty522, pastebin the log again
[10:56] <patty522> DBO:  here ya go http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11706
[10:56] <mavric2001> ubuntu just doesnt seem to get it done with printers from my experience
[10:57] <Apostle^> mavric2001: i don't know what your experience has been but mine has worked perfectly from day one
[10:57] <Apostle^> mavric2001: all i had to do is select it and bam.
[10:57] <mavric2001> apostle: maybe you can help them
[10:57] <mavric2001> ive installed foo2zjs patch
[10:58] <Apostle^> mavric2001: what kind of printer?
[10:58] <DBO> patty522, its still not taking the compiler...  hmmm, most curious
[10:58] <mavric2001> apostle: hp 1020
[10:58] <Aven> hi
[10:58] <patty522> DBO: i used that command to export 3.4 insted of 4
[10:58] <Apostle^> mavric2001: have you tried selecting it in the printing menu? i have an HP psc 1610 and it works.
[10:58] <Aven> is it easy to setup wireless internet with ubuntu?
[10:58] <Aven> what kind of tools do you use?
[10:58] <mavric2001> apostle: cups does see the printer, firmware does get uploaded from what i can tell, but the printer does not print
[10:59] <Apostle^> mavric2001: when you go to print, are you selecting the right device?
[10:59] <DBO> patty522, did you do the step were you su to root, then do the export, then exit root, then export again?
[10:59] <mavric2001> apostle: the printer is detected
[10:59] <mavric2001> apostel: yes
[10:59] <Zimx> Mysql Administrator keeps closing for me. Im logged in and when i press some buttons it just closes...
[10:59] <mavric2001> apostle: yes
[10:59] <haGGis> is there any project managment software for linux
[10:59] <patty522> DBO: yes i did
[11:00] <Apostle^> mavric2001: hmm okay one moment.
[11:00] <Spec> haGGis: project management software, like eclipse?
[11:00] <mavric2001> apostle: printer que does show the print job
[11:00] <Apostle^> mavric2001: i'm going to PM you okay?
[11:00] <mavric2001> ok
[11:00] <Apostle^> mavric2001: are you registered with freenode?
[11:00] <haGGis> spec: like microsoft project sim softwear to that
[11:00] <mavric2001> yes
[11:00] <Apostle^> mavric2001: okay
[11:00] <DBO> patty522, you are not running X while you do this are you?
[11:01] <Spec> i don't know what microsoft project is
[11:01] <patty522> nope i use the stop command
[11:01] <bimberi> mavric2001: Check your printer here - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - it links to a forums thread that might help (hopefully)
[11:01] <unity> does anyone know a really quick and nice way to put a jpg into a pdf, ps, or dvi file as large as possible, covering the page?
[11:02] <LeeJunFan> I thought gparted/parted would resize FAT32. Doesn't seem to want to allow that on mine, it's unmounted. beats me.
[11:02] <haGGis> its project mangmnet software lol
[11:02] <remote1> I am trying to use sendmail in a Python script, is that a bad idea?
[11:02] <bimberi> haGGis: have a look at mrproject
[11:02] <fyrebat> when installing wine, I have to input the root passowrd for 'make install' I put the root pw in, and I get: 'su:Authentication failure' Anyone know if this is because you use sudo instead of su in ubuntu?
[11:02] <haGGis> cheers
[11:03] <kingspawn> fyrebat: do you "sudo make install2?
[11:03] <kingspawn> s/2/"
[11:03] <bimberi> !wine
[11:03] <patty522> DBO: is there away to change it to 3.4 another way
[11:03] <DBO> patty522, you have installed gcc-3.4 correct?
[11:03] <obscurite> Hello - anyone here familiar with hoary SATA raid1 installs? I'm banging my head against the wall trying to get raid1 to work from the installer.
[11:03] <fyrebat> kingspawn, no from the wine root I go ./tools/wineinstall
[11:03] <DBO> patty522, it should be taking it...
[11:03] <kingspawn> fyrebat: why not give sudo a try?
[11:03] <fyrebat> kingspawn, while installing it gets to a point where it asks for password
[11:03] <patty522> DBO: i done the export thing if thats wat you mean
[11:03] <zegnus> hi !
[11:04] <kingspawn> fyrebat: because it is running without the right kind of permissions
[11:04] <fyrebat> kingspawn, sudo ./tools/installwine?
[11:04] <kingspawn> fyrebat: indeed. or wineinstall, if thats your file
[11:04] <fyrebat> right
[11:04] <haGGis> bimberi cheers thank thats what i need
[11:04] <arrick> hey i was told to leave the /home/lost+found/ folder alone, does anyone know what it is for?
[11:04] <john_jimmy> how do i run apps automatically on startup
[11:04] <DBO> patty522, "sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4"
[11:04] <obscurite> Has anyone here done a hoary install on sata raid1?
[11:05] <arrick> evening kingspawn
[11:05] <kingspawn> arrick: evening. it is for ext3 to keep tabs of files gone awry
[11:05] <kingspawn> arrick: more or less :)
[11:05] <fyrebat> kingspawn, says 'your running wineinstall as root, this is not advisable, pleas rerun...
[11:05] <arrick> ok thanks
[11:05] <bimberi> haGGis: np :)  you'll find it isn't as 'feature rich' (read: bloated) as MS Project but quite adequate I find
[11:05] <patty522> it wont let me install it as it at the newest
[11:05] <arrick> do I need it in every partition kingspawn ?
[11:05] <DBO> patty522, good
[11:05] <kingspawn> fyrebat: haha, well, either enable the root account, or make this stuff work otherwise
[11:06] <arrick> whaddup DBO
[11:06] <kingspawn> arrick: yes, if they are ext3
[11:06] <arrick> ok thanks
[11:06] <DBO> hey arrick
[11:06] <DBO> patty522, are you remember to capitalize the CC in the export command?
[11:06] <fyrebat> kingspawn, dag, was afraid u would say that
[11:06] <arrick> ok guys, I have a sigma pci dual hdd adapter here, will ubuntu be able to recognize it if I load it into my server?
[11:06] <zido> anybody know how i can make a image of some sort in Dia for gnome to import in OO 2.0?
[11:06] <kingspawn> fyrebat: there is probably a guide at help.ubuntu.com or something
[11:06] <kingspawn> !wine
[11:06] <duelboot> dbo, any help with loading modules?  now Kernel Modules not loaded...read the instructions and have no idea
[11:06] <patty522> DBO: im not sure i will try again
[11:07] <thebrasse> Can someone tell me where my grub.conf is? =)
[11:07] <zegnus> hi at all
[11:07] <fyrebat> kingspawn, thnx man
[11:07] <nairb> hello all, finally have customer using ubuntu 4 squid, samba, dansguardian.. and they love it.  Anyone using Ubuntu clients in ~150 user samba situation?
[11:07] <obscurite> zido - dia can obvious export a bitmap and OO can obvioulsy import bitmaps
[11:07] <zido> obscurite: i can't find where i can export as bitmap?
[11:07] <bolsh> So what's the easiest way to go from Breezy to Dapper?
[11:07] <zegnus> I have mount my dvd in /media/cdrom0 , but when I put an dvd film, totem says: can't play dvd:////media/cdrom0 ... any idea ???
[11:07] <simonpca> bolsh: dist-upgrade
[11:07] <obscurite> zido - been a while since i used dia, but i'm assuming file -> export or file-> sav eas
[11:07] <franqk> how do I unrar a lot of rar files in the same directory at once? what's the unrar command? (I have not been successful in my atempts)
[11:07] <DBO> duelboot, I need more specifics than that to help you... Im weird like that
[11:08] <thebrasse> !grub
[11:08] <kingspawn> bolsh: waiting for dapper to be released
[11:08] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[11:08] <duelboot> dbo, ref my earlier issue with installing bestcrypt...that's the error I get now...don't know how to be more specific...it seems that it loaded fine...I'll check the out put again
[11:08] <zido> obscurite: ah, found it.. the filemenu on the diagram editing window is so less complete..
[11:09] <DBO> duelboot, I know zero about bestcrypt, sorry
[11:09] <duelboot> okay, thx anyway dbo
[11:09] <obscurite> anyone here successfully done an md raid1 install with 5.10?
[11:09] <fart> how do you extract tar.gz files via the terminal
[11:09] <obscurite> I seem to have built a raid1 partitions /dev/md0 but if i try to make a swap partition on it it gives me an error about too many partitions
[11:10] <jareth_> fart: tar -xzvf file.tar.gz
[11:10] <molinero> !tar
[11:10] <thebrasse> Am i correct in assuming that the file that in some distributions is called grub.conf, in Ubuntu is called menu.lst?
[11:10] <bolsh> simonpca, That's a command line thing, isn't it?
[11:11] <franqk> how do I unrar a lot of rar files in the same directory at once? what's the unrar command? (I have not been successful in my atempts)
[11:11] <zegnus> mmm and man unrar ?
[11:11] <simonpca> bolsh: yes... but if you insert the Dapper CD, ubuntu will propose you to upgrade, using Synpatic
[11:11] <bolsh> kingspawn, Will there be an "upgrade to dapper" option somewhere on my badger desktop when the release comes out?
[11:11] <simonpca> very easy
[11:11] <franqk> zegnus, ok I'll try the manual first then
[11:11] <bolsh> simonpca, Danke
[11:11] <simonpca> Danke?
[11:11] <bolsh> Thanks :)
[11:11] <EvilDin> why this error
[11:11] <EvilDin> Warning: session_write_close() [function.session-write-close] : The session id contains invalid characters, valid characters are only a-z, A-Z and 0-9 in /var/www/phpmyadmin/index.php on line 44
[11:11] <Spec> find -name "*.tar" | xargs -n1 unrar
[11:12] <haGGis> on ww.gnome-look.org what themes work with ubuto 5.10
[11:12] <kingspawn> bolsh: hm, that i am not sure about, but you can always do it from a terminal
[11:12] <woodwizzle> Anyone know why xchat-gnome was removed from Dapper Flight 5 and 6?
[11:12] <bolsh> Another silly question - I'd like to install Fspot, beagle and tomboy on Breezy
[11:12] <molinero> !emacs
[11:12] <ubotu> rumour has it, emacs is a text editor made by GNU. Some praise it as the world's best
[11:12] <arrick> ok guys, I have a sigma pci dual hdd adapter here, however according to the manufacturer, it has a os selection guide an it is not compatibble with any os, has anyone used one of these with ubuntu yet?
[11:12] <franqk> Spec, was that for me?
[11:12] <EvilDin> Warning: session_write_close() [function.session-write-close] : Failed to write session data (files). Please verify that the current setting of session.save_path is correct (/var/lib/php4) in /var/www/phpmyadmin/index.php on line 44
[11:13] <EvilDin> why i get this
[11:13] <bolsh> tomboy and "Best" which looks like beagle are OK, but I just found fspot
[11:13] <bolsh> So all is well
[11:13] <haGGis> what themes do i add to ubuto
[11:13] <patty522> DBO: once its install i will get the NVIDIA X Server settings thing
[11:13] <DBO> yes
[11:13] <bolsh> Thanks
[11:13] <molinero> !alsa
[11:13] <bolsh> Night
[11:13] <ubotu> somebody said alsa was http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063, see also !dmix
[11:13] <DBO> patty522, so the capitalization was your issue?
[11:13] <baua> how can i start ssh service with ubuntu?
[11:13] <arrick> hey is there a way to install gedit without the ubuntu desktop?
[11:14] <patty522> DBO:it has installed it
[11:14] <molinero> !gdb
[11:14] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, molinero
[11:14] <obscurite> any RAID gurus around? The installer created a raid1 device but wouldn't make a swap partition on it.
[11:14] <kingspawn> arrick: sudo apt-get install gedit?
[11:14] <DBO> patty522, that will be one pot of coffee
[11:14] <arrick> thanks kingspawn
[11:14] <kingspawn> :)
[11:14] <jareth_> baua: sudo apt-get install openssh-serverv ssh
[11:14] <root__> hi there
[11:14] <root__> nick Inazad
[11:14] <patty522> DBO: when i says sudo nano /etc/x11/xorg.conf
[11:14] <andreetje> help :)
[11:15] <Inazad> I have a big problem!!
[11:15] <patty522> it loads a blank thing so i cant edit anything
[11:15] <FadedSun> Inazad: Oh no!
[11:15] <Inazad> My Ubuntu doesn't want to show me the loginscreen
[11:15] <baua> jareth: did that but the server isnt started
[11:15] <DBO> patty522, just skip that part
[11:15] <Inazad> it said: cannont load ext2 module.. fatal or something like that
[11:15] <patty522> so it isnt needed
[11:15] <andreetje> installed Ubuntu, default install, can do anything in terminal ping/ftp but in x ff xchat none so no updates.....
[11:15] <DBO> and type "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start"
[11:15] <[cro] smiley> how can I manage my mail form console?
[11:15] <ENE|Toxic> Should I use apt-get to upgrade my kernel or should I download the lastest from kernel.org and compile by hand ?
[11:15] <gepatino> Inazad: have you recompiled your kernel?
[11:15] <arrick> Inazad, you got a bad partition
[11:16] <jareth_> baua : sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start
[11:16] <DBO> patty522, you should have the newest version of the drivers, which dont require that step
[11:16] <Inazad> arrick: It works perfectly 2 hours ago
[11:16] <Inazad> arrick: Now, it don't want to boot...
[11:16] <arrick> ouch, mayabe a bad drive then
[11:16] <kingspawn> Inazad: what'd you do in the mean time?
[11:16] <[cro] smiley> 
[11:16] <[cro] smiley> how can I manage my mail form console?
[11:16] <[cro] smiley> 
[11:16] <Inazad> nothing
[11:16] <kingspawn> Inazad: tried booting the recovery console?
[11:16] <walkover_> hey everybody! I am struggeling with the Xorg7 install. I get an error regarding LBXUTIL. The full error report is here: http://pastebin.com/646859 . Does anyone have clue what to do?
[11:16] <Inazad> no
[11:16] <patty522> ok, so i carryon with the method yes
[11:17] <gepatino> Inazad: have you changed your kernel? installed new modules  or something like that?
[11:17] <Inazad> but what I'll do in the shell..
[11:17] <Inazad> gepatino: no nI dont do that
[11:17] <Inazad> gepatino: I'm new on linux so...
[11:17] <ba> is there mac like docks for linux?
[11:17] <DBO> patty522, no need to, i believe the new drivers install the console on their own
[11:17] <DBO> patty522, did gdm start?
[11:17] <kingspawn> Inazad: try fsck /dev/hdxx where xx is the partition youve got ubuntu on
[11:18] <Inazad> I dont know which partition
[11:18] <haGGis> does any 1 know about gnome themes
[11:18] <kingspawn> Inazad: is this an ext3 or ext2 partition?
[11:18] <arrick> hey walkover_ you gat a file mising
[11:18] <Inazad> how I can know it ?
[11:18] <Bambino> !azureus
[11:18] <Inazad> ext2
[11:18] <ubotu> azureus is, like, totally, a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[11:18] <arrick> fd -h
[11:18] <kingspawn> Inazad: then try "fdisk -l /dev/hda" or "fdisk -l /dev/hdb"
[11:18] <Inazad> ok
[11:18] <kingspawn> Inazad: are you sure about ext2?
[11:18] <Inazad> How I can change to a new terminal?
[11:18] <ENE|Toxic> Should I use apt-get to upgrade my kernel or should I download the lastest from kernel.org and compile by hand ?
[11:18] <Inazad> kingspawn:  yes
[11:18] <patty522> DBO:its all now installed, cheers for all your help. but now heres another question....How do i TVOut to work
[11:19] <kingspawn> Inazad: ALT-F-keys
[11:19] <DBO> patty522, very carefully...  I have no idea
[11:19] <Inazad> ok wait me
[11:19] <kingspawn> ENE|Toxic: entirely dependent on what you want to do
[11:19] <patty522> DBO:i wont bother then i dont want to have to install ubuntu again
[11:19] <walkover_> arrick, yeah but i alreade installed XBLUTIL
[11:19] <Inazad> How I can create an new terminal
[11:19] <kingspawn> Inazad: are you in ubuntu now?
[11:19] <Inazad> because the other it's the server status of mirc
[11:20] <ENE|Toxic> kingspawn: I just want to get the latest available kernel since I get some problems with the comp hanging. But what's the difference between the two ?
[11:20] <Inazad> I'm in shell
[11:20] <DBO> patty522, do you see the x server settings for nvidia in your Applications -> System tools?
[11:20] <Inazad> yes i'm on ubuntu
[11:20] <kingspawn> Inazad: eh, then you just press alt-f2
[11:20] <kingspawn> or go "xterm" if you happen to be in x
[11:20] <Inazad> ohh!
[11:20] <Inazad> thanks
[11:20] <Inazad> wait me
[11:20] <kingspawn> fa shizzle
[11:20] <Inazad> i will try the fdisk command...
[11:20] <mavric2001> apostle: thanks for your help, setting default page size to A4 seems to have done the trick
[11:20] <Inazad> brb
[11:20] <walkover_> I just thought that maybe someone in here had tried to install xorg7
[11:20] <kingspawn> do so
[11:20] <patty522> DBO: yes i do
[11:20] <haGGis> what type of themes do i need to download to change gnome look and feel
[11:20] <DBO> patty522, good, you are good to go my man
[11:21] <Inazad> I have done it
[11:21] <Inazad> wait me a minute
[11:21] <patty522> cheers for all your help,i would off been stuck for days trying to get it to work
[11:21] <mcrummey> hello, I have a question
[11:21] <DBO> ask away
[11:21] <mcrummey> is Mesa in the repository for Ubuntu?
[11:22] <Inazad> Ok there is my partitions
[11:22] <Inazad> /dev/hda3      Linux Swap
[11:22] <Inazad> /dev/hda4      Linux
[11:22] <Inazad> /dev/hda5      Linux
[11:22] <Inazad> /dev/hda1      Windows...
[11:22] <DBO> mcrummey, parts of it...
[11:22] <patty522> heres a noob question... wat is swap for
[11:22] <mcrummey> I am getting an error on a ./configure script about OpenGL
[11:22] <mcrummey> configure: error: could not find working GL library
[11:23] <DBO> patty522, virtual memory
[11:23] <patty522> ohh
[11:23] <mavric2001> patty swap is virtual memory
[11:23] <newbie> hello
[11:23] <mavric2001> usually 1.5 times larger than physical memory
[11:23] <Inazad> what I have to do?
[11:23] <sheng> hello
[11:23] <newbie> could somone kindly point me to the fglrx tutorial?
[11:23] <sheng> my fonts in applications are messed up
[11:23] <sheng> i just installed ubutno
[11:23] <sheng> web browser font is picelly
[11:23] <kingspawn> Inazad: well then, we know that your linux partition is probably hda4
[11:24] <sheng> pixelly
[11:24] <Inazad> yes and then?
[11:24] <obscurite> this is so frustrating. i got the ubuntu installer to give me a raid1 device but i couldn't add a swap partition to it so now it's one big / partition. argh!
[11:24] <sheng> with black bacckground
[11:24] <patty522> so i have a 1gig of ram so mine would be wat size
[11:24] <newbie> I've tried searching the wiki but I get the italian version and not the english
[11:24] <DBO> alright, I earned my boyscout badge for the day, I'll be back in a couple hours
[11:24] <kingspawn> Inazad: booting to recovery console and trying to fsck it
[11:24] <sheng> my resolution is 12x10
[11:24] <Inazad> kingspawn: which command I have to use ?
[11:24] <sheng> and some font looks fine, like in this chat above, but nowt where i type
[11:24] <walkover_> does anyone in here have experience with xorg7
[11:24] <sheng> i can't see what i'm typing even
[11:24] <Inazad> kingspawn:  or maybe I can come back with the shell on irc ?
[11:24] <kingspawn> Inazad: fsck /dev/hda i would believe
[11:24] <sheng> until it comes up on the screen here
[11:25] <sheng> where do i change this?
[11:25] <kingspawn> Inazad: well, the partition needs to be mounted read only to be checked, and you need a reboot
[11:25] <Inazad> kingspawn: brb
[11:25] <Inazad> ok
[11:25] <Inazad> kingspawn: wait me
[11:25] <kingspawn> yes sir
[11:25] <aemkei> are there any known problems on having 2 sound cards, and using multimedia keyboards with volume control?
[11:26] <aemkei> when i use my volume up key its going up for the wrong sound card
[11:26] <glyph> ERROR: Your architecture, \'x86_64\', is not supported by the
[11:26] <glyph>        Macromedia Flash Player installer.
[11:26] <kingspawn> aemkei: just the general concensus that one should never - ever - use multimedia keyboards
[11:26] <glyph> im trying to install flash and i get this error
[11:26] <glyph> can some one help
[11:26] <arrick> what is the shtudown command for ubuntu?
[11:26] <kingspawn> aemkei: or keyboards with windows-buttons on.. :)
[11:26] <sheng> all my font background are messed up
[11:26] <patty522> how do i install a .deb files
[11:26] <kingspawn> arrick: shutdown.. :)
[11:26] <sheng> tanyone konw how tt o change this?
[11:26] <aemkei> kingspawn: it has no windows key
[11:26] <arrick> thanks
[11:26] <kingspawn> patty522: dpkg -i file.deb
[11:26] <kingspawn> aemkei: that's good :)
[11:26] <arrick> I knew reboot, but not shutdown
[11:27] <aemkei> i scratched it off
[11:27] <aemkei> hihi
[11:27] <kingspawn> arrick: shutdown -h now halts your computer. shutdown -r now reboots it
[11:27] <walkover_> glyph, you have a 64bit CPU and 64 linux and the flash package is simply not made for 64bit, too bad
[11:27] <kingspawn> arrick: and man shutdown tells lots
[11:27] <aemkei> but still my volume up key wont work :)
[11:27] <glyph> arrick, try this shutdown now
[11:27] <arrick> ok thanks
[11:27] <unity> what is the lpr arguments to enable toner-saving mode for hp laserjet 1200?
[11:27] <glyph> walkover_, Thx
[11:27] <glyph> dang
[11:27] <sheng> why it my x-server 1280x1024 resolution messing up text, making it black and invisible, while 1024x768 is fine?
[11:28] <obscurite> anyone want to help a poor lost soul fix his RAID1?
[11:28] <sheng> ok, now it's fine.
[11:28] <ENE|Toxic> What's the difference between updating the kernel using apt-get and downloading the latest from kernel.org ?
[11:28] <sheng> does x-server mess up like this regularly, not starting properly?
[11:28] <kingspawn> ENE|Toxic: apt-get gives you precompiled and ready to go
[11:28] <kingspawn> ENE|Toxic: kernel.org, hence, does not
[11:28] <obscurite> Toxic - the apt-get is kinda old
[11:28] <walkover_> sheng, you are probably running your monitor at a too high scanrate
[11:28] <Brit154> hey guys
[11:28] <ENE|Toxic> kingspawn: oh I see. But in all essential they are the same ?
[11:29] <ENE|Toxic> obscurite: you mean old version ?
[11:29] <kbrooks> ENE|Toxic: No.
[11:29] <stpere> hello, where should I put a program to be started right after login?
[11:29] <ENE|Toxic> ok .. ?
[11:29] <stpere> it's a ncurses interface
[11:29] <kbrooks> ENE|Toxic: Debian/Ubuntu patches the kernel
[11:29] <Brit154> is this the Ubuntu support channel?
[11:29] <obscurite> Toxic - if you need the absolute latest version and you need to build it yourself, get the kernel.org source. But 99.9% of users don't need to do that.
[11:29] <walkover_> try and google after a xorg.conf that has you your monitor configured in it, and then use the monitor part in you own and try again
[11:29] <kbrooks> Brit154: yes.
[11:29] <ENE|Toxic> obscurite: ok great answer :)
[11:29] <kbrooks> Brit154: for the stable version only.
[11:30] <sheng> too high scanrate?
[11:30] <kbrooks> Brit154: which is...
[11:30] <sheng> twhat is that
[11:30] <sheng> i'm running it at 1280x1024, 60hz
[11:30] <kingspawn> ENE|Toxic: well, the same and the same. you can strip a kernel you compile yourself of all the excess stuff put in to accomodate every type of hardware
[11:30] <kbrooks> !tell Brit154 about breezy
[11:30] <IdefiX666> hi
[11:30] <aemkei> noone using 2 sounds cards + multimedia keyboard?
[11:30] <mikeo1> how can i find out my memory speed?
[11:30] <sheng> i applied the same resolution and now it's fine.
[11:30] <kingspawn> ENE|Toxic: but its not that important anymore, since memory is usually abundant
[11:30] <ENE|Toxic> kingspawn oh ok .. Yeah I see
[11:30] <IdefiX666> anyone recognize this error? ohci1394: fw-host0: SelfID recived outside of bus reset sequence
[11:30] <walkover_> yes, you monitor can only handle a certain amount of lines per second
[11:30] <mikeo1> is there a program like cpuz except for linux?
[11:30] <Brit154> excellent - I'm just figuring out XChat
[11:30] <kbrooks> ubotu: forget breezy
[11:30] <ubotu> i forgot breezy, kbrooks
[11:30] <IdefiX666> I can't install ubuntu because of this ohci...
[11:30] <sheng> also, i installed ubuntu on my second SATA drive. the first one has windows xp. can i edit the xp boot.ini file and tell it to boot this second hdd as an option? what do i put on the last line of the boot.ini file?
[11:31] <walkover_> and your is probably trying to run with a configuration that is off the limits of your monitor
[11:31] <Brit154> um.. sounds kinda stoopid, but how do you direct a line to someone in this chat?
[11:31] <obscurite> anyone have any idea why the ubuntu installer wouldn't let me add more than one partition to my raid1 device?
[11:31] <mikeo1> is there a program like cpuz except for linux?
[11:31] <ENE|Toxic> kingspawn: perhaps I'll look in to compiling the kernel myself in the near future, it just might be a good lesson if nothing else. And besides, it might be nice to have those unused features removed. So what's the apt-get command again to upgrade the kernel, apt-get dist-upgrare ?
[11:31] <sheng> usally the string ends with something like \\windows
[11:31] <kbrooks> ubotu: breezy is <reply>The current stable version of Ubuntu. If you would like to upgrade to it, the guide to upgrading to Breezy is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[11:31] <ubotu> okay, kbrooks
[11:31] <Mistofolees> i just installed the live cd on my old Compaq Evo N800c laptop, this was way too easy!
[11:31] <sheng> what format would i put in the boot.ini file? does it matter?
[11:32] <sheng> as long as it points to rdisk(1)
[11:32] <walkover_> sheng, what is the model and brand of your monitor?
[11:32] <arrick> how do I check the mail when it says i have new mail interminal?
[11:32] <kbrooks> ubotu: breezy =~ s/The/Breezy is the/
[11:32] <ubotu> OK, kbrooks
[11:32] <sheng> viewsonic vp171b
[11:32] <IdefiX666> please... i really need help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=890361#post890361
[11:32] <walkover_> ok give me one moment
[11:32] <sheng> the fonts are fine now
[11:32] <sheng> i applied the 60hz
[11:32] <mikeo1> how can i find out info about my memory in linux?
[11:32] <sheng> will this be saved for next reboot?
[11:32] <obscurite> mikeol - use a system monitor applet or 'top'
[11:33] <Brit154> would any kind person be able to help me with 'modprobe'...?
[11:33] <frank23> mikeo1: well cpu info can be found in /proc/cpuinfo
[11:33] <mikeo1> i want to find out my memory fsb and timings
[11:33] <mikeo1> not cpu or usage info
[11:33] <obscurite> frank32: an ugly solution but true ;)
[11:33] <glyph> could some one help me with SDL?
[11:33] <mikeo1> just installed a gig and want to make sure its actually running at 221mhz
[11:33] <mikeo1> cause the dividers are sort of funny on this motherboard
[11:34] <Spec> cat /proc/meminfo
[11:34] <walkover_> sheng, oh you solved it
[11:34] <Spec> that doesn't show you your clocky though
[11:34] <sheng> yes
[11:34] <sheng> but i just set it to what it was initially
[11:34] <walkover_> yeah it should be saved
[11:34] <sheng> when xserver first started, it must have set it higher
[11:34] <sheng> also
[11:34] <walkover_> maybe
[11:34] <Brit154> does anybody know how to get Breezy to load wlan drivers at startup?
[11:35] <sheng> this comes with firefox 1.0
[11:35] <sheng> should i unstinall 1.0 first from the ubuntu menu, and then go about installing 1.5
[11:35] <sheng> or can i just install over it
[11:35] <Bambino> Excuse me, I have a IrDA port. How do I transfer a picture to it? Do I need to install the irda port or is it auto detected?
[11:35] <Spec> Brit154: are you trying to use ndiswrapper?
[11:35] <Brit154> sheng, I think if you uninstall FF1.0 it messes up nautlius and help
[11:35] <mikeo1> cat /proc/meminfo doesnt have fsb or timings...
[11:35] <walkover_> hey everybody! I am struggeling with the Xorg7 install. I get an error regarding LBXUTIL. The full error report is here: http://pastebin.com/646859 . Does anyone have clue what to do?
[11:35] <frank23> sheng: you have to keep ff1.0.7   if you want 1.5 they will be side by side
[11:35] <Brit154> Hi Spec, I'm afraid I don't know what that is
[11:36] <Bambino> !irda
[11:36] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Bambino
[11:36] <frank23> !tell sheng about ff1.5
[11:36] <Brit154> Spec, I'm installing ipw3945 Intel wireless drivers... I've got them working (using now), but I have to manually start them with 'sudo ./load' whenever I start
[11:36] <Brit154> Spec, I was to automate that somehow
[11:36] <walkover_> sheng just run an "apt-get update" and then "apt-get upgrade" then firefox should be all new
[11:36] <frank23> mikeo1: I don know where to get fsb speed. Can you just check in the BIOS
[11:36] <obscurite> Anyone here running raid1 wiht mdadm?
[11:37] <Brit154> Spec was=want ;-)
[11:37] <mikeo1> my bios is messed up
[11:37] <mikeo1> and doesnt say
[11:37] <biovore> I run a raid using mdadm on ubuntu
[11:37] <mikeo1> it says one thing but does another
[11:37] <ENE|Toxic> What's the apt-get command again to upgrade kernel in breezy ?
[11:37] <mikeo1> had this problem with it in windows too..
[11:37] <walkover_> apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:37] <sonic> hey, can anyone tell me how I can install java?
[11:37] <Spec> Brit154: you could theoretically throw commands into /etc/rc.local
[11:37] <Spec> or maybe it's /etc/init.d/rc.local, i'm not exactly sure
[11:37] <ENE|Toxic> walkover_ thx
[11:37] <biovore> !ubotu java
[11:37] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[11:37] <IdefiX666> can anybody help me with 4294675.149000 ohci1394: fw-host0: SelfID recived outside of bus reset sequence error? I cant install ubuntu because of that... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=890361 thx in advance
[11:37] <sheng> ok walk, but how would i do it manually
[11:37] <obscurite> biovore - i used the installer to set up a raid1, but it wouldn't let me add a swap for some reason, so i have a giant / partition on my raid1 device
[11:38] <walkover_> sonic, java.com has an exelent guide
[11:38] <jdinunci> test
[11:38] <obscurite> biovore - i am wondering if i need to go back to the drawing board, or if I can somehow make a swap partitoin happen
[11:38] <walkover_> sheng, apt-get firefox ?
[11:38] <sonic> thank you guys :)
[11:38] <Brit154> Spec, well, I have to navigate to the directory and type sudo ./load as per Intel's instructions... then go into Breezy's GUI network config and 'activate' eth1
[11:38] <biovore> the raid can only be 1 partion I belive
[11:38] <obscurite> biovore - what about swap? how did you handle that?
[11:38] <frank23> mikeo1: my insanely crappy computer manufacturer. put low quality dimms that run at 400 MHz if there is only one but only 333MHz if there are 2.
[11:38] <rmbrain> why do so many people say Windows is insecure?  doesn't it only matter on the admin?
[11:38] <Brit154> Spec, they do have some instructions on automating it with modprobe, but they don't seem to work on Ubuntu
[11:39] <obscurite> biovore - should i have one raid1 for / and another for /tmp ?
[11:39] <`underOATH> "configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[11:39] <`underOATH> "
[11:39] <kingspawn> rmbrain: well, of course. but it allows alot of strange stuff to run in kernel space
[11:39] <mikeo1> ok, so does anyone know how to find the memory speed and timings in linux?
[11:39] <biovore> if your raiding 2 HD's I made each drive have 2 partions with each drive having 256MB swap partion and the rest as a partions to put into a raid
[11:39] <frank23> `underOATH: install build-essential
[11:39] <`underOATH> alright, thanks frank23 :)
[11:40] <obscurite> biovore - so if you lost a drive, your swap would get blown away?
[11:40] <frank23> `underOATH: what are you trying to compile?
[11:40] <kingspawn> i would consider it a good idea to include build-essential by default in dapper.
[11:40] <biovore> yup.. raid 1
[11:40] <obscurite> biovore - that would crash some applications thus defeating raid1?
[11:40] <`underOATH> frank23: airsnort
[11:40] <sheng> what do i put on the last line of the boot.ini file in xp to make it boot from the second sata drive as an option?
[11:40] <obscurite> biovore - some applications depend on /tmp being stable
[11:40] <sheng> which would go into ubuntu
[11:41] <frank23> kingspawn: if you can find place on the 1 CD for them, fine ;)
[11:41] <biovore> raid 1 is mirror
[11:41] <biovore> right
[11:41] <frank23> `underOATH: airsnort is in universe
[11:41] <frank23> !info airsnort
[11:41] <ubotu> airsnort: (WLAN sniffer), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 0.2.7e-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 49 kB, Installed size: 184 kB
[11:41] <sheng> does ubuntu automatically updated the kernel also, not just apps?
[11:42] <biovore> obscurite: let me look how I have it setup on my box
[11:42] <obscurite> biovore - thanks!
[11:42] <frank23> sheng: yeah. but only for security updates
[11:42] <kingspawn> frank23: heh, space is always the issue
[11:42] <kingspawn> frank23: lets go for dvds
[11:42] <mae> ack its still not working
[11:42] <mae> argh
[11:42] <`underOATH> frank23: what do you mean by that ?
[11:42] <frank23> `underOATH: you can install it with synaptic if you enable universe
[11:43] <frank23> !tell `underOATH about sources
[11:43] <sheng> can i install linux nforce2 chipset drivers  and nvidia gf 6200 using hte drivers from nvidia?
[11:43] <`underOATH> frank23: how do i enable things again, i haven't used ubuntu for years
[11:43] <biovore> yeah.. I have what I said..  I have my swap on a sperate disk
[11:43] <rmbrain> kingspawn, so could i make a Windows box just as secure?
[11:43] <frank23> `underOATH: I just sent you the link. years?  ubuntu is 1.5 years old only ;)
[11:44] <biovore> You might able to partition the /dev/md device..
[11:44] <obscurite> biovore - that would save your data if a drive failed, but anything depending on /tmp would fail or act weird
[11:44] <obscurite> biovore - right?
[11:44] <biovore> yeah..  its software raid..
[11:44] <biovore> want complete uptime. get a hardware raid card
[11:44] <obscurite> biovore - Gotcha :)
[11:44] <`underOATH> frank23: i was being sarcastic :P just so long that i don't remember
[11:45] <kingspawn> rmbrain: i don't really know alot about windows security, since it is backward and impossible to admin, but probably not very far off
[11:45] <kingspawn> rmbrain: but never as fast and reliable, imho
[11:45] <rmbrain> k
[11:45] <mae> ahh i found the problem - autotest != play nice with database constraints
[11:45] <mnemo> if I want to install a reasonably stable version of ubuntu today... which version should I choose?
[11:45] <mae> breezy
[11:46] <bimberi> mnemo: 5.10 Breezy
[11:46] <kingspawn> mnemo: breezy :)
[11:46] <mnemo> kk
[11:46] <mnemo> ;)
[11:46] <sheng> where is /opt/firefox/
[11:46] <sheng> ?
[11:46] <Polypterus> Hello. I've installed gkrellm and gkrellmd on breezy badger. It's working fine, apart from the fact that it doesn't show on my desktop when I restart my computer. How can that be done?
[11:46] <sonic> hey guys, I'm following the instructions for installing java, and it asks me to type in " chmod +x jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin" to install.  But this doesnt do anything
[11:46] <mikeo1> is it possible to run xgl over tightvnc?
[11:46] <kameron> sudo apt-get install linux-image-2.6.15-20-386 tells me it's already the newest version, but uname -r shows that i'm running the -15-... upgrading kernels with dist-upgrade also doesn't work. anyone else have this problem? i'm running kubuntu dapper.
[11:46] <frank23> sheng: you have to create that directory
[11:46] <obscurite> biovore - thanks a lot for your advice.
[11:46] <sheng> does it matter where?
[11:47] <mikeo1> cause i noticed kxdocker worked over vnc
[11:47] <sheng> can it be on the desktop
[11:47] <mnemo> sonic: that command only makes "jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin" a runnable file, sort of
[11:47] <mnemo> sonic: to actually run if.. type "./jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin"
[11:47] <sheng> is this just to extract it, or to install
[11:48] <sonic> mnemo: thank you soo much
[11:48] <frank23> sonic: the 'standard' way in ubuntu is to make a .deb with that .bin
[11:48] <bimberi> kameron: have you rebooted since installing the -20 kernel?
[11:48] <frank23> !tell sonic about java
[11:48] <kameron> bimberi, yeah.. i just figured out the problem, it's lilo. thanks though.
[11:48] <walkover_> sonic, you have to make a symlink from your firefox plugin dir to your java installation
[11:49] <bimberi> kameron: kk :)
[11:49] <walkover_> sonic, follow the guide on java.com and you will succeed.
[11:49] <kameron> ;)
[11:49] <obscurite> Anyone running ubuntu on weird non x86 hardware?
[11:49] <linrunix> hi everyone
[11:49] <obscurite> I guess macs count.
[11:49] <kameron> obscurite, what do you consider weird?
[11:49] <sheng> what's the terminal kb button for autocomplete? it's not tab?
[11:49] <obscurite> kameron - I dunno, just interesting. Unusual
[11:49] <mnemo> hmm, is breezy just 1 cd total?
[11:49] <arrick> how do I check the mail when it says i have new mail interminal?
[11:49] <frank23> obscurite: are amd64 and ppc that weird?
[11:49] <kameron> mnemo, yes
[11:50] <mnemo> neat
[11:50] <duelboot> okay, I performed the CC=gcc-3.4   export CC <then the normal make installation>  but still receive this error:  CC=gcc-3.4   any help?
[11:50] <obscurite> frank23 - what kinda ppc?
[11:50] <duelboot> would a symbolic link help me?  If so, how do I do it?
[11:50] <sheng> what is autocomplete in the terminal?
[11:50] <duelboot> oops on the erro
[11:50] <Polypterus> Anyone using gkrellm?
[11:50] <sheng> what button
[11:50] <duelboot> error hold on
[11:50] <bimberi> sheng: tab
[11:50] <frank23> obscurite: Apple... I don't know them too much
[11:50] <sheng> tab is not working
[11:51] <duelboot> error here:  bc: version magic '2.6.12-10-386 386 gcc-4.0' should be '2.6.12-10-386 386 gcc-3.4'
[11:51] <walkover_> duelboot, you can make a symlink and that would help you
[11:51] <bimberi> sheng: what are you trying?
[11:51] <duelboot> walkover_  see above...how?
[11:51] <walkover_> go to the dir with gcc in it
[11:51] <duelboot> ln -s <what>
[11:51] <sheng> i'm trying to remove a file from the desktop
[11:51] <sheng> i type "rm f" and then press tab to complete it
[11:51] <walkover_> then type ln -s gcc-3.4 CC
[11:51] <duelboot> 3.4 or 4.0?
[11:51] <sheng> and it's not doing it
[11:52] <duelboot> okay 4.0
[11:52] <frank23> sheng: are you in the Desktop directory?  cd Desktop
[11:52] <sheng> yes, i am
[11:52] <patrick52222> how do i install .deb files
[11:52] <bimberi> sheng: what if you hit tab multiple times?
[11:52] <sheng> ok, now i am
[11:52] <Bambino> does a IRDA work ?? or do i have to install it on my laptop? IrDA (infrared)
[11:52] <sheng> i guess i was in home
[11:53] <duelboot> walkover_  /us/bin/  ?? or another?
[11:53] <kingspawn> patrick52222: dpkg -i file.deb
[11:53] <sheng> when i typed ls, it said desktop, so i assumed that meant i was in the desktop directory
[11:53] <duelboot> /usr/bin
[11:53] <sheng> but that's one below it
[11:53] <frank23> patrick52222: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb    what program is it?
[11:53] <cinder> hi
[11:53] <kingspawn> oh, yeah, the sudo
[11:53] <patrick52222> the new amsn
[11:53] <`underOATH> Where can i download auditor ?
[11:53] <sonic> yay
[11:53] <bimberi> sheng: ah - use 'pwd' to see your current working directory
[11:53] <Zarephath> Anybody enlighten me about MOL for Ubuntu....
[11:53] <sonic> java works fine now, thanks for all the help guys
[11:54] <frank23> patrick52222: is that .deb built for ubuntu?
[11:54] <sheng> ok, thanks
[11:54] <patrick52222> not the new one
[11:54] <Polypterus> I've installed gkrellm and gkrellmd on breezy badger. It's working fine, apart from the fact that it doesn't show on my desktop when I restart my computer. How can that be done?
[11:54] <sheng> now, i just need to figure out how to edit the xp boot.ini file, so that i get a message to boot into ubuntuo as a second option.
[11:54] <sheng> anyone know what to put on the last line of boot.ini?
[11:54] <walkover_> Polypterus, you have to save the session when you quit
[11:55] <Polypterus> walkover_: is that the only way?
[11:55] <walkover_> for that you need a login manager
[11:55] <cinder> IHow can I change gnome-menu icon?
[11:55] <walkover_> no you can maka a script that starts everytime your X does
[11:55] <cinder> The one that has by default?
[11:55] <Polypterus> walkover_: alright, that sounds a bit more complex.
[11:56] <sheng> i dont need a login manager
[11:56] <sheng> i can just edit the boot.ini text file
[11:56] <sheng> and point it to the second sata drive, which is devoted to ubuntu
[11:56] <bimberi> sheng: i very much doubt that XP's bootloader will boot Linux.
[11:56] <sheng> i just need to konw the syntax
[11:56] <duelboot> walkover_  /usr/bin ???  3.4 is also there...is it a dif dir or same?
[11:56] <sheng> it loads it, bimberi
[11:56] <Zimx> Hi, how do i rename a directory=?
[11:57] <kingspawn> sheng: then google is your friend
[11:57] <bimberi> sheng: ok then (*shrugs*)
[11:57] <kingspawn> sheng: around here we use real boot loaders
[11:57] <sheng> i am looking it up
[11:57] <sval> Zimx, mv
[11:57] <Zimx> ok ty
[11:57] <sheng> i dont want to make any alteration to my boot
[11:57] <sheng> that's why i prefer the text edit
[11:57] <kingspawn> sheng: then how can you edit boot.ini?
[11:57] <sheng> i mean boot sector edits
[11:58] <oxez> anyone know how I could get the current song in rhythmbox using dbus?
[11:58] <glyph> how do i switch from KDM to GDM?
[11:58] <duelboot> zimx  mv <dir name> <new dir name>
[11:58] <Zimx> duelboot Yeah thanks.
[11:58] <duelboot> yw
[11:59] <sval> glyph, sudo apt-get install gdm
[11:59] <duelboot> anyone know where I need to create the symbolic link to get gcc-3.4 linked to 4.0?
[11:59] <sheng> what is yoru suggestion for dual-booting?
[11:59] <sheng> is there an easy way to configure that in ubuntu?
[12:00] <sethk> duelboot, you don't want to do that
[12:00] <MemeticVirus> sheng dual booting with what OS?
[12:00] <glyph> i alredy have it im getting a error that says i cant start it because its not the default