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| jdong | are there any plans for us to get kaffeine .8? | 03:59 |
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| jdong | just curious | 03:59 |
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| seth|lappy | jdong, the backports wiki has been spammed, fyi | 04:05 |
| jdong | wonderful | 04:05 |
| jdong | just peachy :) | 04:05 |
| Hobbsee | lol | 04:05 |
| seth|lappy | looks clean-ish right now, people have been reverting it | 04:06 |
| seth|lappy | but guest edits should probably be off for the front page, or sommat | 04:06 |
| jdong | yeah | 04:06 |
| jdong | thanks to everyone who helped to revert | 04:06 |
| jdong | I'll lock down permissions when I get a chance to | 04:07 |
| seth|lappy | cheers | 04:08 |
| neoncode | "ice cream time!"? O_o | 05:13 |
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| robotgeek | Riddell: just to let you know, kubuntu-docs doesn't install | 06:34 |
| robotgeek | /usr/share/doc-base/kubuntu-adept: cannot open control file for reading: No such file or directory | 06:35 |
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| LaserJock | Riddell: ping? | 07:31 |
| seaLne | robotgeek: yeah i get that aswell | 08:13 |
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| robotgeek | Hobbsee: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/dapper/+source/kde-systemsettings/+bugs is correct? | 09:28 |
| Hobbsee | robotgeek: i would assume so, yes | 09:29 |
| Hobbsee | maybe launchpad's buggered again | 09:29 |
| Hobbsee | no...wait... | 09:29 |
| Hobbsee | those usually get put as kde base, i think | 09:29 |
| robotgeek | filing bugs on lp is also tough, it's not quite clear where to file them, kde 3.5.x etc | 09:30 |
| Hobbsee | the bug lists are buggered again | 09:30 |
| Hobbsee | yeah | 09:30 |
| Hobbsee | i'd stick it in kdebase, as that's where a lot of the bugs for system settings already go | 09:30 |
| robotgeek | okay, will do. and in the source-package, right? | 09:31 |
| Hobbsee | assigning it to kubuntu-team would help too, or whatever it is - i'm told it's not necessary, but seems easier to find if it is assigned somewhere | 09:31 |
| Hobbsee | yeah | 09:31 |
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| robotgeek_away | Hobbsee: can you say again, i lost what you said in the lag | 09:36 |
| Hobbsee | [17:30] <Hobbsee> the bug lists are buggered again | 09:36 |
| Hobbsee | [17:30] <Hobbsee> yeah | 09:36 |
| Hobbsee | [17:30] <Hobbsee> i'd stick it in kdebase, as that's where a lot of the bugs for system settings already go | 09:36 |
| Hobbsee | [17:31] <robotgeek> okay, will do. and in the source-package, right? | 09:36 |
| Hobbsee | [17:31] <Hobbsee> assigning it to kubuntu-team would help too, or whatever it is - i'm told it's not necessary, but seems easier to find if it is assigned somewhere | 09:36 |
| Hobbsee | [17:31] <Hobbsee> yeah | 09:36 |
| robotgeek_away | great! | 09:36 |
| robotgeek_away | Hobbsee: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/dapper/+source/kdebase/+bugs is probably not the place too :P | 09:39 |
| Hobbsee | robotgeek_away: hehe - launchpad search must be screwed again | 09:39 |
| robotgeek_away | i do get a lot if i get rid of dapper | 09:39 |
| Hobbsee | ah...that'll be it, i think | 09:40 |
| === robotgeek_away wonders why! | ||
| seaLne | when you file a bug, you can't file it against a version | 09:50 |
| robotgeek_away | why not, doesn't it make it easier? | 09:51 |
| robotgeek_away | bug #38692 | 09:51 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 38692 in kde-systemsettings "systemsettings doesn't load Display, Disk and Filesystems control module" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/38692 | 09:51 |
| seaLne | its not a question you get asked when filing the bug | 09:51 |
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| marseillai | hi | 10:43 |
| Hobbsee | hi marseillai | 10:47 |
| marseillai | I got a depedency problem with libqt3-mt-mysql i think it's due to amarok 1.4-Rc1 from Riddell's depot but I'm not sure I don't know if this problem has been reported I'm not really good in malone ..... | 10:48 |
| marseillai | and I've just see that there's a problem with kubuntu-docs : dpkg: erreur de traitement de kubuntu-docs (--configure) | 10:49 |
| marseillai | it seems kubuntu-docs bug has been reported | 10:51 |
| Hobbsee | yeah, kubuntu-docs bug has been hit by many people | 10:52 |
| Hobbsee | havent heard of the other one though | 10:52 |
| === Hobbsee pokes Riddell - what's with these bugs? | ||
| marseillai | i've dpkg -r kubuntu-docs to be able to use apt-get ..... | 10:54 |
| marseillai | Hobbsee: could you tell me if the libqt3-mt-mysql bug have been reported? i can't find it? | 10:56 |
| marseillai | if you have amarok 1.4-rc1 could you verify if it's really him wich create this dependency bug ? | 10:56 |
| Hobbsee | libqt3-mt-mysql is not the name of the source package, that's the name of the binary | 10:58 |
| Hobbsee | i'm not sure about the other stuff | 10:58 |
| === Hobbsee is brain dead :P | ||
| marseillai | oki | 10:59 |
| marseillai | i'll take a look at this | 10:59 |
| marseillai | thx | 10:59 |
| Hobbsee | hang on.... | 10:59 |
| Hobbsee | we're getting a few more new packages here... | 11:00 |
| Hobbsee | wonder what these do | 11:00 |
| === Hobbsee looks around for the offending dep... | ||
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| marseillai | yop | 11:06 |
| marseillai | https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/qt-x11-free/+bug/38701/+index | 11:06 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 38701 in qt-x11-free "libqt3-mt-mysql can't be upgrade" [Normal,Unconfirmed] | 11:06 |
| marseillai | https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-docs/+bug/38690 | 11:06 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 38690 in kubuntu-docs "Latest kubuntu-docs can't find /usr/share/doc-base/kubuntu-adept when updating" [Normal,Confirmed] | 11:06 |
| === Hobbsee scratches her head | ||
| marseillai | arf sorry! it's a mystake i didn't want to past it there | 11:06 |
| Hobbsee | i can see there's a problem here, but for the life of me, i cant figure out why! | 11:07 |
| Hobbsee | mind you, i didnt package them in the first place | 11:07 |
| freeflying | marseillai: as for #38701 , have you noticed Mysql libraries changed, third party repositories broken | 11:08 |
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| marseillai | freeflying: i'm french and i'm not really good at english | 11:09 |
| marseillai | in english ....... | 11:09 |
| Hobbsee | hmmm...aptitude does a better job of showing borked dependancies than apt-get - must remember that | 11:10 |
| marseillai | i've not notice anything for this bug except that it brokes my dependencies and that i've not see any bug report for it | 11:10 |
| marseillai | i don't know aptitude ........ | 11:11 |
| Hobbsee | hang on... | 11:11 |
| === Hobbsee tests | ||
| Hobbsee | ah, gotcah | 11:12 |
| Hobbsee | *gotcha | 11:12 |
| Hobbsee | amarok needs fixing | 11:12 |
| === Hobbsee has figured out where the problem is :P | ||
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| freeflying | Hobbsee: what's wrong with amarok | 11:15 |
| Hobbsee | libmysqlclient15off replaces libmysqlclient15 <-- the amarok packages havent been updated to fix this | 11:15 |
| Hobbsee | freeflying: amarok depends on libmysqlclient15 - but libmysqlclient15off replaces it | 11:15 |
| seaLne | stupid package name changes :) | 11:15 |
| Hobbsee | hehe yeah | 11:15 |
| freeflying | Hobbsee: it's known bugs , :) | 11:15 |
| Hobbsee | anyone done a patch for it yet? | 11:16 |
| Hobbsee | or should we just poke Riddell to fix his repos from there? | 11:16 |
| freeflying | Hobbsee: no , tell me the url of source package , I can do it | 11:16 |
| Hobbsee | freeflying: of amarok? | 11:17 |
| seaLne | freeflying: kubuntu.rg/packages/amarok-14beta2 | 11:17 |
| seaLne | with an o in there | 11:17 |
| freeflying | Hobbsee: you can do it also , just replace the build-dep | 11:18 |
| Hobbsee | dep, not build dep. | 11:18 |
| Hobbsee | yeah, i'm not asking how to patch it - i'm asking if it's more helpful to send a patch to riddell, or to just let him do it from where he is... | 11:18 |
| Hobbsee | speaking of which, where is he - its' 10am there | 11:18 |
| seaLne | koffice-15rc1 broke aswell | 11:18 |
| Hobbsee | so did some of the python stuff | 11:19 |
| Hobbsee | who has uploads to main? does raphink? | 11:19 |
| freeflying | Hobbsee: let me check it | 11:19 |
| seaLne | he can | 11:19 |
| jpatrick | Hobbsee: guy needs to sleep too, you know | 11:19 |
| Hobbsee | bah, sleep's overrated | 11:20 |
| freeflying | Hobbsee: this amarok is not in main , just in Riddell's repo | 11:20 |
| Hobbsee | freeflying: yes, but the amarok in main is probably affected too | 11:20 |
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| freeflying | jpatrick: hi, kerry-0.1 is out | 11:20 |
| Hobbsee | python stuff is in main though | 11:20 |
| Hobbsee | raphink: do you have upload privs to main, by any chance? | 11:20 |
| freeflying | Hobbsee: reiddell will fix it soon :) | 11:20 |
| Hobbsee | hehe - he's told you that? | 11:20 |
| raphink | Hobbsee: you're lucky | 11:21 |
| raphink | ;) | 11:21 |
| raphink | hehe | 11:21 |
| jpatrick | freeflying: ok, now I have to get an UVF thing for kmplayer and kerry | 11:21 |
| Hobbsee | raphink: i take it that's a yes? | 11:21 |
| raphink | currently the main Kubuntu devs with main rights are Riddell, \sh and I | 11:21 |
| Hobbsee | right | 11:22 |
| Hobbsee | raphink: i'm thinking of patching a few of the broken packages - a dep changed, and a whole lot of packages broke | 11:22 |
| Hobbsee | and i'm thinking of doing it now, before we all get inundated with bug reports | 11:22 |
| raphink | ok | 11:22 |
| raphink | sure | 11:22 |
| freeflying | jpatrick: maybe you can add another one : kaffeine | 11:22 |
| raphink | send me the patches Hobbsee | 11:22 |
| Hobbsee | will do - gotta make them first | 11:23 |
| jpatrick | freeflying: :) | 11:23 |
| freeflying | jpatrick: kaffeine-0.8 is tested in debian now | 11:24 |
| jpatrick | freeflying: will do | 11:24 |
| Hobbsee | hang on...now i'm confusing myself hehe | 11:25 |
| freeflying | jpatrick: seems kaffeine's UVFe is hard to be approved , it's in main | 11:25 |
| jpatrick | :/ | 11:26 |
| Hobbsee | raphink: ok, i'm an idiot, it's a problem with the amarok packages only, not a whole heap of stuff in main | 11:28 |
| === Hobbsee grabs the amarok packages to fix | ||
| Hobbsee | might still need the main upload yet hehe | 11:29 |
| raphink | hehe | 11:29 |
| raphink | send me the patch | 11:29 |
| raphink | and I'll try to find some time to test/review and upload | 11:29 |
| hunger | kubuntu-docs fails to install here. | 11:29 |
| hunger | No control file in /usr/share/doc-base/kubuntu-adept. | 11:30 |
| Hobbsee | hunger: yeah, there's https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-docs/+bug/38690 | 11:30 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 38690 in kubuntu-docs "Latest kubuntu-docs can't find /usr/share/doc-base/kubuntu-adept when updating" [Normal,Confirmed] | 11:30 |
| mornfall | any news about the adept guide? :) | 11:30 |
| hunger | Hobbsee: Well, I can confirm that one.-) | 11:31 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 11:31 |
| mornfall | doc.ubuntu.com seems to have old version | 11:31 |
| Hobbsee | argh! now i've confused myself even worse - libmysqlclient15 isnt even listed as a dep for amarok! why! | 11:32 |
| === jpatrick wonder where libgstreamer0.10-plugins went | ||
| === mornfall notes that there's a dependency browser in dapper's adept ;) | ||
| jpatrick | damn, it's called libgstreamer-plugins-base0.10-dev | 11:37 |
| hunger | That konqui has trouble following links nowadays is a PITA. | 11:37 |
| Riddell | morning all | 11:37 |
| Hobbsee | morning Riddell | 11:37 |
| jpatrick | morning Riddell | 11:37 |
| Hobbsee | another day, more breakage :P | 11:37 |
| jpatrick | a new day, a new upstream release of kmplayer with gst0.10 | 11:38 |
| Hobbsee | and one very confused hobbsee, hehe! | 11:38 |
| mornfall | i'm bored | 11:43 |
| raphink | hi Riddell | 11:43 |
| jpatrick | mornfall: welcome to the club | 11:44 |
| mornfall | do you play freeciv? :] | 11:44 |
| === mornfall hides | ||
| hunger | Anyone seeing this: | 11:44 |
| hunger | Using konqi as a browser following some links I get a popup, informing me that I am about to open a document of type text/html. | 11:45 |
| hunger | I choose "Open in konqueror there" and get a popup about konqueror not able to handle text/html files. | 11:46 |
| hunger | When middle-clicking on the same link to open it in a new tab everything is fine. | 11:46 |
| hunger | Example: "Read past strips" on http://www.unitedmedia.com/comics/dilbert/ | 11:47 |
| hunger | Plus that page will not load (konqui does not handle text/html) when not opening it in an empty tab. | 11:48 |
| Riddell | works for me | 11:49 |
| pef | for me too :) | 11:50 |
| Hobbsee | anyone any good on packaging libraries, and all that? | 11:50 |
| Hobbsee | or do i want to give up, and let this bug slide lol? | 11:50 |
| hunger | Riddell: Hmmm... I am seeing this issue for the last couple of days now:-( | 11:50 |
| jpatrick | mornfall: I have that problem | 11:53 |
| mornfall | jpatrick: hmm, what problem? | 11:56 |
| jpatrick | mornfall: kubuntu-doc one | 11:57 |
| mornfall | ah | 11:57 |
| jpatrick | freeflying: malone 38703 | 12:02 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 38703 in kerry "UVF kerry 0.09 -> 0.1" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/38703 | 12:02 |
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| Riddell | hunger: what's the issue? | 12:06 |
| Riddell | Hobbsee rather | 12:06 |
| freeflying | jpatrick: assigned to motureviewer | 12:06 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: read in -motu, if you want | 12:06 |
| Hobbsee | siretart partially answered | 12:06 |
| jpatrick | freeflying: no motu-uvf team | 12:07 |
| danimo_ | has anyone seen sime? | 12:07 |
| Riddell | danimo_: he blogged about his hard disk being broken | 12:07 |
| danimo_ | eeek | 12:07 |
| Hobbsee | danimo_: [20:07] [Notice] -NickServ- Last Seen: 2 days (20h 18m 4s) ago | 12:07 |
| jpatrick | my hard disk has a SMART error | 12:08 |
| danimo_ | Riddell: now that I have time to debug the widescreen laptop - 3:4 external display problem with him | 12:08 |
| danimo_ | Riddell: damn | 12:08 |
| Riddell | http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/1909 | 12:08 |
| danimo_ | Riddell: do you know why suspend2 is still not in ubuntu's kernel? | 12:10 |
| Riddell | danimo_: no idea, but they probably thought it not stable enough for a long term release like dapper | 12:10 |
| marseillai_ | danimo_: because ubuntu-devs don't want to include it! they want to wait for kernel-dev to do it | 12:10 |
| marseillai_ | it's too many works they said for something that will come in a kernel release ..... | 12:11 |
| danimo_ | marseillai_: which is probably not gonna happen as the swsup devs seem to try to keep it out | 12:11 |
| danimo_ | marseillai_: it will? | 12:11 |
| marseillai_ | danimo_: yes. | 12:11 |
| danimo_ | marseillai_: what "yes" | 12:12 |
| danimo_ | ? | 12:12 |
| marseillai_ | danimo_: it seems that susp2 does something wrong (don't know what) and that susp is being improved with a splash and improvment from susp2! so no susp2 will not be include in kernel. so this is the reason why ubuntu-dev don't want to include it | 12:13 |
| danimo_ | marseillai_: kind of frustrating given that susp2 just works (tm) | 12:13 |
| danimo_ | and the kernel stuff does not | 12:14 |
| marseillai_ | never try it | 12:14 |
| marseillai_ | now the kernel stuff works for me | 12:14 |
| danimo_ | I'm on it, but i have to use a vanilla kernel | 12:14 |
| marseillai_ | klaptopdaemon don't but kernel yes | 12:14 |
| mornfall | is there something suspend2 does over current suspend to disk/acpi/swsusp? | 12:14 |
| danimo_ | mornfall: it's faster and it can handle encrypted swap | 12:15 |
| danimo_ | mornfall: and it works on more hardware | 12:15 |
| mornfall | danimo_: and the downsides? :) | 12:15 |
| danimo_ | mornfall: it's not in the vanilla kernel | 12:16 |
| mornfall | danimo_: probably there's a reason to that | 12:16 |
| marseillai_ | mornfall: really hard to include in kernel! | 12:16 |
| marseillai_ | so ubuntu-devs don't want to do this work for something that will be replace "soon" | 12:16 |
| mornfall | plugin architecture in suspend2 | 12:17 |
| mornfall | wee | 12:17 |
| marseillai_ | Hobbsee: could you confirm my bug ? https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/qt-x11-free/+bug/38701 | 12:17 |
| danimo_ | marseillai_: it's not. the latest version is a nicely split patchset | 12:17 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 38701 in qt-x11-free "libqt3-mt-mysql can't be upgrade" [Normal,Unconfirmed] | 12:17 |
| danimo_ | marseillai_: by request. before it used to be a monolitic patch | 12:18 |
| danimo_ | it's complex in that is quite a lot of changes | 12:18 |
| danimo_ | but imho it would be worth it | 12:18 |
| Hobbsee | marseillai_: yeah, that's supposed to be fixed with a rebuild, according to Riddell | 12:18 |
| danimo_ | currently suspend is what keeps most of my friends away from kubuntu | 12:18 |
| danimo_ | (they're all on laptops) | 12:19 |
| marseillai_ | Hobbsee: oki | 12:19 |
| Riddell | marseillai_: libqt3-mt-mysql has been rebuilt against the new libmysql, it should work fine | 12:19 |
| Hobbsee | danimo_: breezy or dapper? the new kernel and kpowersave seems to suspend quite decently on some more machines than it used to | 12:19 |
| danimo_ | Hobbsee: dapper | 12:19 |
| marseillai_ | Riddell: don't understand your sentence | 12:20 |
| mornfall | danimo_: i give uswsusp more chances | 12:20 |
| danimo_ | Hobbsee: for my laptop, it fails to suspend when running on battery for instance | 12:20 |
| jpatrick | Riddell: new kmplayer has gst0.10 support but I can't get anything to play on it, so I'll keep the default to xine | 12:20 |
| marseillai_ | danimo_: yes it's thrue you should try kpowersave from tonio repository | 12:20 |
| Hobbsee | marseillai_: means "it's fixed for amarok 1.3.9" | 12:20 |
| danimo_ | marseillai_: how does this help? | 12:20 |
| === mornfall must be lucky, suspend working out of the box | ||
| Riddell | marseillai_: libqt3-mt-mysql a besoin de la neauvaux mysql, mais il y a deja un libqt3-mt-mysql dans les archives qui utilise le neauvaux mysql donc le problemme est passe | 12:21 |
| marseillai_ | Hobbsee: oki! but with amarok 1.4 ? | 12:21 |
| Hobbsee | marseillai_: wait for it. | 12:21 |
| marseillai_ | oki | 12:21 |
| marseillai_ | merci Riddell | 12:21 |
| danimo_ | Riddell: funny enough I cannot either chose amarok or qt4 btw | 12:21 |
| Riddell | danimo_: what happens? | 12:21 |
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| danimo_ | Riddell: amarok beta packages, but it still shouldn't conflict in libmysql3 packages | 12:22 |
| Riddell | oh yes, that'll happen | 12:22 |
| danimo_ | libmysqlclient15 | 12:22 |
| danimo_ | vs something similar | 12:22 |
| danimo_ | Riddell: why is that? | 12:22 |
| Hobbsee | danimo_: that's what we've been discussing...hehe | 12:23 |
| Riddell | libmysqlclient15 had a binary incompatible change, and I havn't recompiled amarok to build against the new one yet | 12:23 |
| mornfall | Hobbsee looks dangerously now | 12:23 |
| === Hobbsee gets out the banstick, and waves it threateningly... | ||
| Riddell | marseillai: on doit attende pour la neuxeux amarok | 12:23 |
| danimo_ | Riddell: ah ok | 12:23 |
| danimo_ | no amarok for me then | 12:23 |
| Hobbsee | mornfall: idiots who spam annoy me hehe | 12:23 |
| danimo_ | Riddell: the new beta was planned for this weekend btw | 12:23 |
| danimo_ | no idea what happend to it | 12:24 |
| Riddell | danimo_: its being released tomorrow evening | 12:24 |
| danimo_ | ah. cool | 12:24 |
| danimo_ | that long I can wait | 12:24 |
| Riddell | danimo_: I'll do new amarok pacakges after I've done koffice | 12:24 |
| Riddell | so it'll be done today | 12:24 |
| marseillai | what a really good news! | 12:24 |
| danimo_ | Riddell: cool | 12:24 |
| Hobbsee | woot! | 12:24 |
| Hobbsee | koffice takes a while though | 12:25 |
| Riddell | Hobbsee: certainly does, should give me time to get breakfast :) | 12:25 |
| Hobbsee | LOL! | 12:25 |
| Hobbsee | food's overrated. | 12:25 |
| Hobbsee | so's passing out, but that's irrelevant | 12:25 |
| mornfall | :) | 12:25 |
| marseillai | and Riddell after testing FC5, suse beta, using breezy and dapper i can say you tonio_ raphink and others devs have really done a SO GREAT job! | 12:26 |
| Riddell | marseillai: merci beaucoup :) | 12:26 |
| marseillai | c'est moi qui te remercie! :) | 12:27 |
| marseillai | kde 3.5.2 roxxxx et il est tres bien intgr! | 12:27 |
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| marseillai | lol | 12:28 |
| marseillai | roxxxx means is really great but it's not really french | 12:28 |
| marseillai | so! let's try konversation now! perhaps leaving xchat! | 12:30 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 12:30 |
| Hobbsee | marseillai: konv lacks decent scripting... | 12:30 |
| Hobbsee | unfortunately | 12:30 |
| Hobbsee | oh crud...what was i saying earlier about passing out being a bad thing? | 12:31 |
| marseillai | Hobbsee: i've had many problems with konversation for scritpting, auto-identy, auto-invite to channel and irc-op help's script | 12:31 |
| Hobbsee | think i'll go cook some dinner, before i really do pass out... | 12:31 |
| Hobbsee | oh ok | 12:31 |
| Hobbsee_away | sheesh...stupid hobbsee..... | 12:32 |
| Hobbsee_away | back later | 12:32 |
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| kmon | good morning | 01:13 |
| kmon | the recently updated package kubuntu-docs fails to install | 01:14 |
| kmon | "/usr/share/doc-base/kubuntu-adept: cannot open control file for reading: No existe el fichero o el directorio" | 01:14 |
| marseillai | you must dpkg remove the package and wait for a new update then reinstall kubuntu-desktop | 01:15 |
| kmon | marseillai: yes, I know | 01:15 |
| kmon | marseillai: thanxs | 01:16 |
| Hobbsee | kmon: yes, there's a bug filed for it | 01:19 |
| marseillai | https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-docs/+bug/38690 | 01:21 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 38690 in kubuntu-docs "Latest kubuntu-docs can't find /usr/share/doc-base/kubuntu-adept when updating" [Normal,Fix committed] | 01:21 |
| kmon | Hobbsee: Thanxs for pointing out | 01:21 |
| Hobbsee | that's the one, no problems | 01:22 |
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| === Hobbsee forgot to add the salt to the pasta though - pity! | ||
| Tm_T | :) | 01:22 |
| Tm_T | morning/evening Hobbsee :) | 01:22 |
| Hobbsee | evening Tm_T | 01:22 |
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| marseillai | Hobbsee: do you know how i can do in order to execute several command when I log into a chan with konversation! i can execute one but i don't know how to execute several commands | 01:32 |
| Hobbsee | marseillai: command1 && command2 && command3 would be the way you usually do it | 01:32 |
| Hobbsee | not sure if that works in konv though - i stopped testing, before annoying the -offtopic people too much :P | 01:32 |
| marseillai | oki i was using ";" | 01:32 |
| Hobbsee | might be that, but i'm assuming && | 01:33 |
| Hobbsee | seeing as it's && in bash and c++ | 01:33 |
| Tm_T | Hobbsee: =) | 01:34 |
| Tm_T | && yes | 01:34 |
| Tm_T | & and ; are also fine | 01:34 |
| Tm_T | acts differently though | 01:34 |
| Tm_T | && = continue if all goes fine | 01:34 |
| marseillai | Hobbsee: doesn't work too.... | 01:34 |
| Tm_T | ie continue only without errors | 01:34 |
| Hobbsee | darn | 01:34 |
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| Tm_T | marseillai: try ; | 01:35 |
| marseillai | Tm_T: already try | 01:35 |
| marseillai | it was my first idea | 01:35 |
| marseillai | try command1 && command2 try command1&&command2 try command1 ; command2 try command1 & command2 nothing works | 01:39 |
| Tm_T | ok | 01:40 |
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| Sime | is it just me or does konsole like to crash when I log out. | 03:38 |
| Riddell | hi sime | 03:38 |
| Riddell | I've not had any problems like that | 03:38 |
| freeflying | Sime: seems only you :) I haven't too | 03:39 |
| Sime | i'm using a different shell, but that should not matter. | 03:39 |
| Sime | i've been trying out the ATI drivers, making sure that thngs still work ok. | 03:40 |
| Sime | (they didn't) | 03:40 |
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| kmon | on planet gnome one developer talks about monodevelop as a RAD tool. Someone in kde planet should blog about eric3 ;) | 03:42 |
| Riddell | the eric3 in kubuntu is buggy for unknown reasons | 03:43 |
| kmon | :( | 03:43 |
| freeflying | kmon: maybe Riddell | 03:43 |
| Riddell | I've never used eric 3 | 03:43 |
| Riddell | kate and qt designer are all I need | 03:43 |
| kmon | does python have something similar to p/invoke in mono/c#? | 03:44 |
| kmon | to call native code from c# | 03:44 |
| freeflying | kmon: there is another tool named newedit , perform better than eric | 03:44 |
| kmon | you need a python binding to the "thing" you want to call ? | 03:45 |
| Sime | kmon: no, but that has more to do with shared libraries in general. | 03:45 |
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| kmon | freeflying: can you provide a link? | 03:45 |
| freeflying | kmon: http://wiki.woodpecker.org.cn/moin/NewEdit | 03:46 |
| kmon | freeflying: thanks | 03:46 |
| freeflying | kmon: need wxPython | 03:46 |
| kmon | :( | 03:46 |
| kmon | I prefere a qt based one | 03:46 |
| freeflying | kmon: a project of python-chinese | 03:46 |
| kmon | It would be nice if kdeveop included full python support: integrated debugger, etc | 03:47 |
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| jpatrick | Roeland Struijk - ring a bell? | 03:57 |
| Riddell | jpatrick: I'm not sure | 03:58 |
| mornfall | Riddell: umm, https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/38736 | 04:17 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 38736 in ept adept "Adept hangs when using Skim" [Normal,Unconfirmed] | 04:17 |
| mornfall | Riddell: go figure :/ | 04:18 |
| freeflying | Riddell: how did you build amarok-1.4beta2 ? pbuilder or anything else ? | 04:20 |
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| mornfall | freeflying: can you confirm the above behaviour? | 04:25 |
| === Hobbsee is happy :) | ||
| Riddell | freeflying: in a chroot | 04:26 |
| freeflying | Riddell: need libhal-dev | 04:26 |
| freeflying | mornfall: actually is scim not skim | 04:26 |
| mornfall | freeflying: what you mean? | 04:27 |
| Hobbsee | assignment done - and it's no longer crazy spaghetti code! | 04:27 |
| mornfall | hey Hobbsee | 04:27 |
| Hobbsee | hi mornfall | 04:27 |
| Riddell | freeflying: what fdoes? | 04:28 |
| mornfall | Hobbsee: was it in haskell? | 04:28 |
| Hobbsee | it was in C++ | 04:28 |
| freeflying | Riddell: fdose? | 04:29 |
| Riddell | what does? | 04:29 |
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| freeflying | mornfall: it the problem relate with scim not skim | 04:29 |
| freeflying | Riddell: pbuilder amarok failed, need libhal-dev | 04:30 |
| mornfall | freeflying: well, sure it does | 04:30 |
| mornfall | freeflying: btw it works in japanese :)) | 04:30 |
| mornfall | on at least one system | 04:30 |
| mornfall | but it may also be related to kdesu | 04:30 |
| freeflying | mornfall: confirmed , assigned to ubuntu-cjk-tester | 04:32 |
| freeflying | Riddell: | 04:35 |
| freeflying | Riddell: I prepare set QT_IM_MODULE to xim instead of scim , what's your opinion ? | 04:35 |
| Riddell | freeflying: what does that change? | 04:42 |
| freeflying | Riddell: may fix bug #38736 | 04:44 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 38736 in ept adept "Adept hangs when using Skim" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/38736 | 04:44 |
| mornfall | i'll try to fix it as soon as i have the backtrace | 04:47 |
| freeflying | mornfall: this about the package scim-qtimm, whcih provide the scim immodule for qt | 04:48 |
| Riddell | strange to only have problems with one program | 04:49 |
| freeflying | mornfall: maybe you can comunicate with the author of scim-qtimm , he is #scim now , nick is liucougar | 04:51 |
| freeflying | as Riddell said , it's so strange , only adept can not work , others are all okey | 04:52 |
| freeflying | mornfall: ping | 04:56 |
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| mornfall | freeflying: pong | 05:07 |
| freeflying | mornfall: I've paste the bt message to LP | 05:07 |
| mornfall | freeflying: could you please do thread apply all bt? | 05:08 |
| mornfall | freeflying: i can only see gui thread bt there | 05:09 |
| freeflying | mornfall: only one thread | 05:09 |
| mornfall | hmm, no other threads at the time? | 05:10 |
| mornfall | info threads? | 05:10 |
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| superstoned | riddell, mornfall: the rounded selection can be turned off. kcontrol -> look 'n feel -> style -> effects -> rubberband effect | 05:33 |
| mornfall | superstoned: i have that disabled -- something else | 05:48 |
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| Riddell | a rare bit of cruelty from me | 06:02 |
| mornfall | Riddell :) | 06:05 |
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| mornfall | Riddell: ha | 06:40 |
| mornfall | Riddell: after discussing with a scim person | 06:40 |
| mornfall | Riddell: i quite probably have a culprit | 06:40 |
| mornfall | Riddell: of the scim freeze bug | 06:41 |
| Riddell | oh? | 06:44 |
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| mornfall | Riddell: scim has to start a new panel instance for root user | 06:45 |
| mornfall | Riddell: which happens when an input widget gets focused | 06:45 |
| mornfall | Riddell: which takes lots of time | 06:45 |
| Riddell | aah | 06:45 |
| mornfall | Riddell: and maybe even fails | 06:45 |
| mornfall | Riddell: so the suggestion is to disable cjk input for adept | 06:46 |
| mornfall | Riddell: since there isn't much use so far | 06:46 |
| mornfall | Riddell: no translated descriptions or anyting | 06:46 |
| mornfall | anything* | 06:46 |
| mornfall | hmm | 06:46 |
| mornfall | it may be a problem for installer though | 06:47 |
| Riddell | yeah | 06:47 |
| Riddell | why? | 06:47 |
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| mornfall | .desktop files are translated no? | 06:47 |
| mornfall | and searching for cjk string may make more sense there | 06:47 |
| Riddell | hmm, yes | 06:47 |
| mornfall | it'd still be a decent workaround since non-cjk installer is more useful than no installer | 06:47 |
| danimo | Sime|AFK: ping me when you're back | 06:47 |
| mornfall | i was thinking about starting a scim panel for session both for root and user | 06:48 |
| mornfall | but that'll get technically unnice | 06:48 |
| Riddell | does it affect all root programmes? | 06:49 |
| mornfall | Riddell: probably yes, but they apparently don't focus an input widget upon start | 06:49 |
| mornfall | Riddell: so they don't trigger the problem right away | 06:49 |
| mornfall | Riddell: liucougar says it should take <1 minute to init itself | 06:50 |
| mornfall | Riddell: but a minute is still quite a bit | 06:50 |
| Riddell | hmm, yes | 06:50 |
| mornfall | Riddell: for dapper, i would go with disabled scim on adept (not sure how, but should be doable) | 06:51 |
| mornfall | Riddell: if we get reports that users are missing it, we can do something for dapper+1 | 06:51 |
| Riddell | there's probably an environment variable to set it | 06:52 |
| mornfall | Riddell: sure, but how to set it in .desktop? | 06:52 |
| mornfall | .sh wrapper? ew :) | 06:52 |
| mornfall | well, kdesu could be patched to disable scim | 06:53 |
| mornfall | unless there's something that's kdesu'd and using it | 06:53 |
| mornfall | hmm, probably there is | 06:53 |
| Riddell | kcontrol modules at least | 06:53 |
| mornfall | yes, some of the admin modules may need cjk input | 06:54 |
| mornfall | Riddell: so, scim people are working on the issue of multiple users :) | 07:12 |
| mornfall | Riddell: this means, i'd stop worrying about it for dapper | 07:13 |
| mornfall | Riddell: and just disable cjk | 07:13 |
| mornfall | Riddell: and in dapper+1 we can hopefully have it working properly | 07:13 |
| Riddell | fair enough | 07:14 |
| Riddell | did they say how to disable cjk? | 07:14 |
| danimo | Sime|AFK: unping, i'm gone | 07:18 |
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| superstoned | mornfall: i see it, disabling the rubberband doesn't work for me either. guess restarting KDE doesn't work too? really weird it doesn't work, must be some mistake. when i tried this patch for the first time on gentoo, it was easy to disable. | 07:40 |
| pradeepto | why does beagle come along with kerry, I know its a front end but both the UI are installed? | 07:46 |
| Riddell | pradeepto: because the beagle package isn't split | 07:46 |
| pradeepto | so will it be split in future? | 07:46 |
| Riddell | that would certainly be nice | 07:46 |
| pradeepto | yes it would be, really. I hope the maintainer/person concerned is listening. | 07:47 |
| pradeepto | nevertheless it works like a charm on Dapper. | 07:48 |
| mornfall | Riddell: there's a patch on scim ml, so it may be useful to get that in for dapper, if it's not too risky... dunnow who's in charge of scim? | 08:02 |
| Riddell | scim management is a combination of me, mvo, pitti and the CJK dudes like freeflying | 08:05 |
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| Lure | Riddell: probably aware of kubuntu-docs install issue? | 09:02 |
| Riddell | yes, on my todo list | 09:07 |
| Lure | Riddell: should I prepare k-d-s with 1920x1200 image for kdm/ksplash? | 09:10 |
| Riddell | sure | 09:18 |
| Lure | Riddell: will do and I will put it somewhere for you to look at | 09:19 |
| Lure | now need to reboot to test new daily CD for x700/x800 bug | 09:19 |
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| Lure | Riddell: I did change k-d-s and it works for me - this is debdiff: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/648429 | 10:48 |
| Lure | Riddell: should I just send the packe to you e-mail? | 10:48 |
| Lure | s/packe/package/ | 10:49 |
| Lure | s/you/your/ ;-) | 10:49 |
| marseillai | Riddell: why is there no support for musicbrainz in amarok ? | 11:32 |
| Riddell | marseillai: there is but only for ogg | 11:37 |
| marseillai | arf! there's a legacy problem for mp3 ? | 11:37 |
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| Riddell | mp3 has patent restrictions | 11:42 |
| Tm_T | yup | 11:42 |
| jpatrick | Riddell: know if I can split the beagle package? i don't think we want a handful of Gnome stuff been pulled in by it... | 11:47 |
| Lure | Riddell: should I send you k-d-s (it fixes bug 35123 and bug 35133) | 11:47 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 35123 in xserver-xorg-driver-ati "Garbage on KDM screen" [Normal,Rejected] http://launchpad.net/bugs/35123 | 11:47 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 35133 in kdebase ksplash "Kubuntu splash screen mal-formatted" [Normal,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/35133 | 11:47 |
| Lure | jpatrick: that would be great if it is doable... | 11:48 |
| jpatrick | I'll look into it tomorrow | 11:48 |
| jpatrick | I'm off for now | 11:49 |
| marseillai | libmusicbrainz with mp3 support can't be include in universe ou multiverse ? | 11:50 |
| Riddell | marseillai: the next version has loadable plugins so that'll work but we can't do it with the current version | 11:50 |
| marseillai | oki | 11:50 |
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| Riddell | ** testers needed for new amarok and koffice | 12:00 |
| Riddell | deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-14beta3 dapper main | 12:00 |
| Riddell | deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/koffice-15 dapper main | 12:00 |
| Riddell | danimo: poke ^^ | 12:00 |
| LaserJock | Riddell: heah. Did you get poked about kubuntu-docs? | 12:02 |
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