=== KabelKasper [n=KabelKas@i5387DDF7.versanet.de] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Moin] === _neoncode [n=neoncode@88-107-171-196.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Parkotron [n=parker@fctnnbsc16w-156034210155.nb.aliant.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === seth|lappy [n=seth@ubuntu/member/seth] has joined #kubuntu-devel === My8os[Away] [n=My8os@ppp28-adsl-1-189.the.forthnet.gr] has joined #Kubuntu-devel === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #kubuntu-devel === seth|lappy [n=seth@ubuntu/member/seth] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jjesse [i=user@69-87-143-66.async.iserv.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jjesse [i=user@69-87-143-66.async.iserv.net] has left #kubuntu-devel [] === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === toma is now known as toma_ === pradeepto [n=pradeept@dialpool-210-214-12-187.maa.sify.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:59] are there any plans for us to get kaffeine .8? [03:59] just curious === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.36] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:05] jdong, the backports wiki has been spammed, fyi [04:05] wonderful [04:05] just peachy :) [04:05] lol [04:06] looks clean-ish right now, people have been reverting it [04:06] but guest edits should probably be off for the front page, or sommat [04:06] yeah [04:06] thanks to everyone who helped to revert [04:07] I'll lock down permissions when I get a chance to [04:08] cheers [05:13] "ice cream time!"? O_o === Huahua [n=hua_@221.172.50.121] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:34] Riddell: just to let you know, kubuntu-docs doesn't install [06:35] /usr/share/doc-base/kubuntu-adept: cannot open control file for reading: No such file or directory === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:31] Riddell: ping? [08:13] robotgeek: yeah i get that aswell === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.36] has joined #kubuntu-devel === pradeepto [n=pradeept@dialpool-210-214-14-13.maa.sify.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:28] Hobbsee: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/dapper/+source/kde-systemsettings/+bugs is correct? [09:29] robotgeek: i would assume so, yes [09:29] maybe launchpad's buggered again [09:29] no...wait... [09:29] those usually get put as kde base, i think [09:30] filing bugs on lp is also tough, it's not quite clear where to file them, kde 3.5.x etc [09:30] the bug lists are buggered again [09:30] yeah [09:30] i'd stick it in kdebase, as that's where a lot of the bugs for system settings already go [09:31] okay, will do. and in the source-package, right? [09:31] assigning it to kubuntu-team would help too, or whatever it is - i'm told it's not necessary, but seems easier to find if it is assigned somewhere [09:31] yeah === robotgeek_away [n=robotgee@ubuntu/member/robotgeek] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mornfall [n=mornfall@kde/developer/mornfall] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:36] Hobbsee: can you say again, i lost what you said in the lag [09:36] [17:30] the bug lists are buggered again [09:36] [17:30] yeah [09:36] [17:30] i'd stick it in kdebase, as that's where a lot of the bugs for system settings already go [09:36] [17:31] okay, will do. and in the source-package, right? [09:36] [17:31] assigning it to kubuntu-team would help too, or whatever it is - i'm told it's not necessary, but seems easier to find if it is assigned somewhere [09:36] [17:31] yeah [09:36] great! [09:39] Hobbsee: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/dapper/+source/kdebase/+bugs is probably not the place too :P [09:39] robotgeek_away: hehe - launchpad search must be screwed again [09:39] i do get a lot if i get rid of dapper [09:40] ah...that'll be it, i think === robotgeek_away wonders why! [09:50] when you file a bug, you can't file it against a version [09:51] why not, doesn't it make it easier? [09:51] bug #38692 [09:51] Malone bug 38692 in kde-systemsettings "systemsettings doesn't load Display, Disk and Filesystems control module" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/38692 [09:51] its not a question you get asked when filing the bug === pef [n=loic@ubuntu/member/pef] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Sime [n=konversa@ip54579d1b.direct-adsl.nl] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Konversation] === marseillai [n=mars_@AMarseille-153-1-5-75.w86-194.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:43] hi [10:47] hi marseillai [10:48] I got a depedency problem with libqt3-mt-mysql i think it's due to amarok 1.4-Rc1 from Riddell's depot but I'm not sure I don't know if this problem has been reported I'm not really good in malone ..... [10:49] and I've just see that there's a problem with kubuntu-docs : dpkg: erreur de traitement de kubuntu-docs (--configure) [10:51] it seems kubuntu-docs bug has been reported [10:52] yeah, kubuntu-docs bug has been hit by many people [10:52] havent heard of the other one though === Hobbsee pokes Riddell - what's with these bugs? [10:54] i've dpkg -r kubuntu-docs to be able to use apt-get ..... [10:56] Hobbsee: could you tell me if the libqt3-mt-mysql bug have been reported? i can't find it? [10:56] if you have amarok 1.4-rc1 could you verify if it's really him wich create this dependency bug ? [10:58] libqt3-mt-mysql is not the name of the source package, that's the name of the binary [10:58] i'm not sure about the other stuff === Hobbsee is brain dead :P [10:59] oki [10:59] i'll take a look at this [10:59] thx [10:59] hang on.... [11:00] we're getting a few more new packages here... [11:00] wonder what these do === Hobbsee looks around for the offending dep... === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:06] yop [11:06] https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/qt-x11-free/+bug/38701/+index [11:06] Malone bug 38701 in qt-x11-free "libqt3-mt-mysql can't be upgrade" [Normal,Unconfirmed] [11:06] https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-docs/+bug/38690 [11:06] Malone bug 38690 in kubuntu-docs "Latest kubuntu-docs can't find /usr/share/doc-base/kubuntu-adept when updating" [Normal,Confirmed] === Hobbsee scratches her head [11:06] arf sorry! it's a mystake i didn't want to past it there [11:07] i can see there's a problem here, but for the life of me, i cant figure out why! [11:07] mind you, i didnt package them in the first place [11:08] marseillai: as for #38701 , have you noticed Mysql libraries changed, third party repositories broken === haggai [n=halls@i-83-67-59-194.freedom2surf.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:09] freeflying: i'm french and i'm not really good at english [11:09] in english ....... [11:10] hmmm...aptitude does a better job of showing borked dependancies than apt-get - must remember that [11:10] i've not notice anything for this bug except that it brokes my dependencies and that i've not see any bug report for it [11:11] i don't know aptitude ........ [11:11] hang on... === Hobbsee tests [11:12] ah, gotcah [11:12] *gotcha [11:12] amarok needs fixing === Hobbsee has figured out where the problem is :P === jpatrick [n=patrick@ubuntu/member/jpatrick] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:15] Hobbsee: what's wrong with amarok [11:15] libmysqlclient15off replaces libmysqlclient15 <-- the amarok packages havent been updated to fix this [11:15] freeflying: amarok depends on libmysqlclient15 - but libmysqlclient15off replaces it [11:15] stupid package name changes :) [11:15] hehe yeah [11:15] Hobbsee: it's known bugs , :) [11:16] anyone done a patch for it yet? [11:16] or should we just poke Riddell to fix his repos from there? [11:16] Hobbsee: no , tell me the url of source package , I can do it [11:17] freeflying: of amarok? [11:17] freeflying: kubuntu.rg/packages/amarok-14beta2 [11:17] with an o in there [11:18] Hobbsee: you can do it also , just replace the build-dep [11:18] dep, not build dep. [11:18] yeah, i'm not asking how to patch it - i'm asking if it's more helpful to send a patch to riddell, or to just let him do it from where he is... [11:18] speaking of which, where is he - its' 10am there [11:18] koffice-15rc1 broke aswell [11:19] so did some of the python stuff [11:19] who has uploads to main? does raphink? [11:19] Hobbsee: let me check it [11:19] he can [11:19] Hobbsee: guy needs to sleep too, you know [11:20] bah, sleep's overrated [11:20] Hobbsee: this amarok is not in main , just in Riddell's repo [11:20] freeflying: yes, but the amarok in main is probably affected too === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:20] jpatrick: hi, kerry-0.1 is out [11:20] python stuff is in main though [11:20] raphink: do you have upload privs to main, by any chance? [11:20] Hobbsee: reiddell will fix it soon :) [11:20] hehe - he's told you that? [11:21] Hobbsee: you're lucky [11:21] ;) [11:21] hehe [11:21] freeflying: ok, now I have to get an UVF thing for kmplayer and kerry [11:21] raphink: i take it that's a yes? [11:21] currently the main Kubuntu devs with main rights are Riddell, \sh and I [11:22] right [11:22] raphink: i'm thinking of patching a few of the broken packages - a dep changed, and a whole lot of packages broke [11:22] and i'm thinking of doing it now, before we all get inundated with bug reports [11:22] ok [11:22] sure [11:22] jpatrick: maybe you can add another one : kaffeine [11:22] send me the patches Hobbsee [11:23] will do - gotta make them first [11:23] freeflying: :) [11:24] jpatrick: kaffeine-0.8 is tested in debian now [11:24] freeflying: will do [11:25] hang on...now i'm confusing myself hehe [11:25] jpatrick: seems kaffeine's UVFe is hard to be approved , it's in main [11:26] :/ [11:28] raphink: ok, i'm an idiot, it's a problem with the amarok packages only, not a whole heap of stuff in main === Hobbsee grabs the amarok packages to fix [11:29] might still need the main upload yet hehe [11:29] hehe [11:29] send me the patch [11:29] and I'll try to find some time to test/review and upload [11:29] kubuntu-docs fails to install here. [11:30] No control file in /usr/share/doc-base/kubuntu-adept. [11:30] hunger: yeah, there's https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-docs/+bug/38690 [11:30] Malone bug 38690 in kubuntu-docs "Latest kubuntu-docs can't find /usr/share/doc-base/kubuntu-adept when updating" [Normal,Confirmed] [11:30] any news about the adept guide? :) [11:31] Hobbsee: Well, I can confirm that one.-) [11:31] hehe [11:31] doc.ubuntu.com seems to have old version [11:32] argh! now i've confused myself even worse - libmysqlclient15 isnt even listed as a dep for amarok! why! === jpatrick wonder where libgstreamer0.10-plugins went === mornfall notes that there's a dependency browser in dapper's adept ;) [11:37] damn, it's called libgstreamer-plugins-base0.10-dev [11:37] That konqui has trouble following links nowadays is a PITA. [11:37] morning all [11:37] morning Riddell [11:37] morning Riddell [11:37] another day, more breakage :P [11:38] a new day, a new upstream release of kmplayer with gst0.10 [11:38] and one very confused hobbsee, hehe! [11:43] i'm bored [11:43] hi Riddell [11:44] mornfall: welcome to the club [11:44] do you play freeciv? :] === mornfall hides [11:44] Anyone seeing this: [11:45] Using konqi as a browser following some links I get a popup, informing me that I am about to open a document of type text/html. [11:46] I choose "Open in konqueror there" and get a popup about konqueror not able to handle text/html files. [11:46] When middle-clicking on the same link to open it in a new tab everything is fine. [11:47] Example: "Read past strips" on http://www.unitedmedia.com/comics/dilbert/ [11:48] Plus that page will not load (konqui does not handle text/html) when not opening it in an empty tab. [11:49] works for me [11:50] for me too :) [11:50] anyone any good on packaging libraries, and all that? [11:50] or do i want to give up, and let this bug slide lol? [11:50] Riddell: Hmmm... I am seeing this issue for the last couple of days now:-( [11:53] mornfall: I have that problem [11:56] jpatrick: hmm, what problem? [11:57] mornfall: kubuntu-doc one [11:57] ah [12:02] freeflying: malone 38703 [12:02] Malone bug 38703 in kerry "UVF kerry 0.09 -> 0.1" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/38703 === danimo_ [n=danimo@212.44.198.252] has joined #kubuntu-devel === marseillai_ [n=mars_@AMarseille-153-1-73-141.w86-209.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:06] hunger: what's the issue? [12:06] Hobbsee rather [12:06] jpatrick: assigned to motureviewer [12:06] Riddell: read in -motu, if you want [12:06] siretart partially answered [12:07] freeflying: no motu-uvf team [12:07] has anyone seen sime? [12:07] danimo_: he blogged about his hard disk being broken [12:07] eeek [12:07] danimo_: [20:07] [Notice] -NickServ- Last Seen: 2 days (20h 18m 4s) ago [12:08] my hard disk has a SMART error [12:08] Riddell: now that I have time to debug the widescreen laptop - 3:4 external display problem with him [12:08] Riddell: damn [12:08] http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/1909 [12:10] Riddell: do you know why suspend2 is still not in ubuntu's kernel? [12:10] danimo_: no idea, but they probably thought it not stable enough for a long term release like dapper [12:10] danimo_: because ubuntu-devs don't want to include it! they want to wait for kernel-dev to do it [12:11] it's too many works they said for something that will come in a kernel release ..... [12:11] marseillai_: which is probably not gonna happen as the swsup devs seem to try to keep it out [12:11] marseillai_: it will? [12:11] danimo_: yes. [12:12] marseillai_: what "yes" [12:12] ? [12:13] danimo_: it seems that susp2 does something wrong (don't know what) and that susp is being improved with a splash and improvment from susp2! so no susp2 will not be include in kernel. so this is the reason why ubuntu-dev don't want to include it [12:13] marseillai_: kind of frustrating given that susp2 just works (tm) [12:14] and the kernel stuff does not [12:14] never try it [12:14] now the kernel stuff works for me [12:14] I'm on it, but i have to use a vanilla kernel [12:14] klaptopdaemon don't but kernel yes [12:14] is there something suspend2 does over current suspend to disk/acpi/swsusp? [12:15] mornfall: it's faster and it can handle encrypted swap [12:15] mornfall: and it works on more hardware [12:15] danimo_: and the downsides? :) [12:16] mornfall: it's not in the vanilla kernel [12:16] danimo_: probably there's a reason to that [12:16] mornfall: really hard to include in kernel! [12:16] so ubuntu-devs don't want to do this work for something that will be replace "soon" [12:17] plugin architecture in suspend2 [12:17] wee [12:17] Hobbsee: could you confirm my bug ? https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/qt-x11-free/+bug/38701 [12:17] marseillai_: it's not. the latest version is a nicely split patchset [12:17] Malone bug 38701 in qt-x11-free "libqt3-mt-mysql can't be upgrade" [Normal,Unconfirmed] [12:18] marseillai_: by request. before it used to be a monolitic patch [12:18] it's complex in that is quite a lot of changes [12:18] but imho it would be worth it [12:18] marseillai_: yeah, that's supposed to be fixed with a rebuild, according to Riddell [12:18] currently suspend is what keeps most of my friends away from kubuntu [12:19] (they're all on laptops) [12:19] Hobbsee: oki [12:19] marseillai_: libqt3-mt-mysql has been rebuilt against the new libmysql, it should work fine [12:19] danimo_: breezy or dapper? the new kernel and kpowersave seems to suspend quite decently on some more machines than it used to [12:19] Hobbsee: dapper [12:20] Riddell: don't understand your sentence [12:20] danimo_: i give uswsusp more chances [12:20] Hobbsee: for my laptop, it fails to suspend when running on battery for instance [12:20] Riddell: new kmplayer has gst0.10 support but I can't get anything to play on it, so I'll keep the default to xine [12:20] danimo_: yes it's thrue you should try kpowersave from tonio repository [12:20] marseillai_: means "it's fixed for amarok 1.3.9" [12:20] marseillai_: how does this help? === mornfall must be lucky, suspend working out of the box [12:21] marseillai_: libqt3-mt-mysql a besoin de la neauvaux mysql, mais il y a deja un libqt3-mt-mysql dans les archives qui utilise le neauvaux mysql donc le problemme est passe [12:21] Hobbsee: oki! but with amarok 1.4 ? [12:21] marseillai_: wait for it. [12:21] oki [12:21] merci Riddell [12:21] Riddell: funny enough I cannot either chose amarok or qt4 btw [12:21] danimo_: what happens? === marseillai_ is now known as marseillai [12:22] Riddell: amarok beta packages, but it still shouldn't conflict in libmysql3 packages [12:22] oh yes, that'll happen [12:22] libmysqlclient15 [12:22] vs something similar [12:22] Riddell: why is that? [12:23] danimo_: that's what we've been discussing...hehe [12:23] libmysqlclient15 had a binary incompatible change, and I havn't recompiled amarok to build against the new one yet [12:23] Hobbsee looks dangerously now === Hobbsee gets out the banstick, and waves it threateningly... [12:23] marseillai: on doit attende pour la neuxeux amarok [12:23] Riddell: ah ok [12:23] no amarok for me then [12:23] mornfall: idiots who spam annoy me hehe [12:23] Riddell: the new beta was planned for this weekend btw [12:24] no idea what happend to it [12:24] danimo_: its being released tomorrow evening [12:24] ah. cool [12:24] that long I can wait [12:24] danimo_: I'll do new amarok pacakges after I've done koffice [12:24] so it'll be done today [12:24] what a really good news! [12:24] Riddell: cool [12:24] woot! [12:25] koffice takes a while though [12:25] Hobbsee: certainly does, should give me time to get breakfast :) [12:25] LOL! [12:25] food's overrated. [12:25] so's passing out, but that's irrelevant [12:25] :) [12:26] and Riddell after testing FC5, suse beta, using breezy and dapper i can say you tonio_ raphink and others devs have really done a SO GREAT job! [12:26] marseillai: merci beaucoup :) [12:27] c'est moi qui te remercie! :) [12:27] kde 3.5.2 roxxxx et il est tres bien intgr! === danimo_ [n=danimo@212.44.198.252] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Riddell adds roxxxx to his French volcabulary [12:28] lol [12:28] roxxxx means is really great but it's not really french [12:30] so! let's try konversation now! perhaps leaving xchat! [12:30] hehe [12:30] marseillai: konv lacks decent scripting... [12:30] unfortunately [12:31] oh crud...what was i saying earlier about passing out being a bad thing? [12:31] Hobbsee: i've had many problems with konversation for scritpting, auto-identy, auto-invite to channel and irc-op help's script [12:31] think i'll go cook some dinner, before i really do pass out... [12:31] oh ok [12:32] sheesh...stupid hobbsee..... [12:32] back later === marseillai [n=mars_@AMarseille-153-1-73-141.w86-209.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Un] === marseillai [n=marseill@AMarseille-153-1-73-141.w86-209.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === marseillai [n=marseill@AMarseille-153-1-73-141.w86-209.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === kmon [n=javier@217.Red-80-25-51.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:13] good morning [01:14] the recently updated package kubuntu-docs fails to install [01:14] "/usr/share/doc-base/kubuntu-adept: cannot open control file for reading: No existe el fichero o el directorio" [01:15] you must dpkg remove the package and wait for a new update then reinstall kubuntu-desktop [01:15] marseillai: yes, I know [01:16] marseillai: thanxs [01:19] kmon: yes, there's a bug filed for it [01:21] https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-docs/+bug/38690 [01:21] Malone bug 38690 in kubuntu-docs "Latest kubuntu-docs can't find /usr/share/doc-base/kubuntu-adept when updating" [Normal,Fix committed] [01:21] Hobbsee: Thanxs for pointing out [01:22] that's the one, no problems === Hobbsee found dinner :) === Hobbsee forgot to add the salt to the pasta though - pity! [01:22] :) [01:22] morning/evening Hobbsee :) [01:22] evening Tm_T === verwilst [n=verwilst@dD5E0099B.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:32] Hobbsee: do you know how i can do in order to execute several command when I log into a chan with konversation! i can execute one but i don't know how to execute several commands [01:32] marseillai: command1 && command2 && command3 would be the way you usually do it [01:32] not sure if that works in konv though - i stopped testing, before annoying the -offtopic people too much :P [01:32] oki i was using ";" [01:33] might be that, but i'm assuming && [01:33] seeing as it's && in bash and c++ [01:34] Hobbsee: =) [01:34] && yes [01:34] & and ; are also fine [01:34] acts differently though [01:34] && = continue if all goes fine [01:34] Hobbsee: doesn't work too.... [01:34] ie continue only without errors [01:34] darn === marseillai will continu to try [01:35] marseillai: try ; [01:35] Tm_T: already try [01:35] it was my first idea [01:39] try command1 && command2 try command1&&command2 try command1 ; command2 try command1 & command2 nothing works [01:40] ok === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === OculusAquilae [n=oculus@pD950968A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === My8os [n=My8os@ppp24-adsl-1-188.the.forthnet.gr] has joined #Kubuntu-devel === marseillai [n=marseill@AMarseille-153-1-73-141.w86-209.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has left #kubuntu-devel ["assignment"] === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.36] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ubijtsa_ [n=anders@213.208.70.150] has joined #kubuntu-devel === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === toma_ is now known as toma === Sime [n=konversa@ip54579d1b.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger [n=tobias@p54A62A9E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apokryphos [i=[U2FsdGV@server2.polaristar.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === kmon [n=javier@217.Red-80-25-51.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:38] is it just me or does konsole like to crash when I log out. [03:38] hi sime [03:38] I've not had any problems like that [03:39] Sime: seems only you :) I haven't too [03:39] i'm using a different shell, but that should not matter. [03:40] i've been trying out the ATI drivers, making sure that thngs still work ok. [03:40] (they didn't) === apachelogger [n=apachelo@N841P016.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:42] on planet gnome one developer talks about monodevelop as a RAD tool. Someone in kde planet should blog about eric3 ;) [03:43] the eric3 in kubuntu is buggy for unknown reasons [03:43] :( [03:43] kmon: maybe Riddell [03:43] I've never used eric 3 [03:43] kate and qt designer are all I need [03:44] does python have something similar to p/invoke in mono/c#? [03:44] to call native code from c# [03:44] kmon: there is another tool named newedit , perform better than eric [03:45] you need a python binding to the "thing" you want to call ? [03:45] kmon: no, but that has more to do with shared libraries in general. === Sime is now known as Sime|AFK [03:45] freeflying: can you provide a link? [03:46] kmon: http://wiki.woodpecker.org.cn/moin/NewEdit [03:46] freeflying: thanks [03:46] kmon: need wxPython [03:46] :( [03:46] I prefere a qt based one [03:46] kmon: a project of python-chinese [03:47] It would be nice if kdeveop included full python support: integrated debugger, etc === OdyX [n=Didier@8.Red-80-33-64.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:57] Roeland Struijk - ring a bell? [03:58] jpatrick: I'm not sure [04:17] Riddell: umm, https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/38736 [04:17] Malone bug 38736 in ept adept "Adept hangs when using Skim" [Normal,Unconfirmed] [04:18] Riddell: go figure :/ [04:20] Riddell: how did you build amarok-1.4beta2 ? pbuilder or anything else ? === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:25] freeflying: can you confirm the above behaviour? === Hobbsee is happy :) [04:26] freeflying: in a chroot [04:26] Riddell: need libhal-dev [04:26] mornfall: actually is scim not skim [04:27] freeflying: what you mean? [04:27] assignment done - and it's no longer crazy spaghetti code! [04:27] hey Hobbsee [04:27] hi mornfall [04:28] freeflying: what fdoes? [04:28] Hobbsee: was it in haskell? [04:28] it was in C++ [04:29] Riddell: fdose? [04:29] what does? === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:29] mornfall: it the problem relate with scim not skim [04:30] Riddell: pbuilder amarok failed, need libhal-dev [04:30] freeflying: well, sure it does [04:30] freeflying: btw it works in japanese :)) [04:30] on at least one system [04:30] but it may also be related to kdesu [04:32] mornfall: confirmed , assigned to ubuntu-cjk-tester [04:35] Riddell: [04:35] Riddell: I prepare set QT_IM_MODULE to xim instead of scim , what's your opinion ? [04:42] freeflying: what does that change? [04:44] Riddell: may fix bug #38736 [04:44] Malone bug 38736 in ept adept "Adept hangs when using Skim" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/38736 [04:47] i'll try to fix it as soon as i have the backtrace [04:48] mornfall: this about the package scim-qtimm, whcih provide the scim immodule for qt [04:49] strange to only have problems with one program [04:51] mornfall: maybe you can comunicate with the author of scim-qtimm , he is #scim now , nick is liucougar [04:52] as Riddell said , it's so strange , only adept can not work , others are all okey [04:56] mornfall: ping === OdyX_ [n=Didier@8.Red-80-33-64.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:07] freeflying: pong [05:07] mornfall: I've paste the bt message to LP [05:08] freeflying: could you please do thread apply all bt? [05:09] freeflying: i can only see gui thread bt there [05:09] mornfall: only one thread [05:10] hmm, no other threads at the time? [05:10] info threads? === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ZuZubuntu-fr [n=ZuZubunt@AVelizy-154-1-57-55.w83-199.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === marseillai [n=marseill@AMarseille-153-1-73-141.w86-209.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:33] riddell, mornfall: the rounded selection can be turned off. kcontrol -> look 'n feel -> style -> effects -> rubberband effect [05:48] superstoned: i have that disabled -- something else === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ZuZubuntu-fr is now known as AWAY === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mode/#kubuntu-devel [+o Riddell] by ChanServ === mode/#kubuntu-devel [+b *!*=ZuZubunt@*.w83-199.abo.wanadoo.fr] by Riddell === AWAY was kicked off #kubuntu-devel by Riddell (annoying away script, /msg me when fixed thanks) === mode/#kubuntu-devel [-o Riddell] by ChanServ [06:02] a rare bit of cruelty from me [06:05] Riddell :) === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apokryphos [i=[U2FsdGV@server2.polaristar.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:40] Riddell: ha [06:40]