[12:07] mdz: you received that automatically because you're a member of the ubuntu-server team; matt didn't address the mail to you. [12:07] er. s/mdz/pygi/ === robertj [n=robertj@66-188-77-153.dhcp.athn.ga.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:08] neuralis: yup, right :-/ [12:09] neuralis: I just saw u-s is assigned [12:11] idea for X-Problems: if gdm fails, maybe add a question to change to vesa driver and re-try with that? === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-devel === LaserJock [n=laserjoc@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:28] KaiL: bug #27020 [12:28] Malone bug 27020 in xorg xserver-xorg "Please make X fallback to vesa if the card driver doesn't work." [Wishlist,Fix released] http://launchpad.net/bugs/27020 [12:29] ah, cool === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:30] ubuntu seams to become _to_ easy, if I see the recent idiot in #ubuntu-de *g* [12:30] KaiL: Yeah, I note that too in #ubuntu-nl [12:30] KaiL: People _expect_ things to be hard, and think to hard about their problem [12:30] KaiL: while the solution is right in their face [12:30] ('How do I burn a CD?' is a common one there) [12:30] Treenaks, this one is great - he doesn't even know, what a GUI or a console is [12:31] KaiL: calling people like that 'idiots' isn't much help though :) === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:32] ajmitch: What would you call them? Thinkers? :) [12:32] ajmitch, I needed 15min to find out, if he has a running X or not ;) [12:32] ajmitch: 'They're called thinkers because they think too hard' :) [12:32] Treenaks: ignorance is different from idiocy - one is fixable :) [12:32] Treenaks: i'd call them the ideal ubuntu beginners. [12:33] neuralis: sure, they all reply with 'Oh is it THAT simple' when you tell them how to burn CDs ;) [12:33] Treenaks: hehe :) === sebest_ [n=sebest@sebest.ovibes.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:39] Treenaks, did you ever need to use nero on windows? [12:39] after that you know, why this question comes that often ;) [12:42] good night [12:47] 2 other problems I saw today: [12:48] 1. do we have drivers for intels A/B/G WLAN chip? [12:49] 2. I saw the detection for the 'synaptics' touchpad driver failing very often === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:55] KaiL: 1. modinfo ipw2200 [12:56] mdz, nop [12:56] mdz: ip2200 doesn't cover all chips, there's the 39xx family now [12:56] I mean the new one [12:56] mdz: ask mjg59 [12:56] KaiL: 2. I don't think we attempt to detect synaptics [12:56] KaiL: ipw2200 supports the 2915 which is A/B/G [12:56] sometimes we detect synaptics ;) [12:57] ipw 3945 ABG [12:58] KaiL: afaik people are working on that driver [12:58] would be very important for dapper, imho, as it's used on all (?) Core Duo laptops [12:59] KaiL: we configure X for synaptics on all laptops [01:00] mdz, fails on FSC Amilo M1437, afaik [01:01] KaiL: I doubt that it fails to be configured [01:01] if [ -n "$LAPTOP" ] ; then [01:01] that's the test [01:01] strange [01:01] unless laptop-detect is wrong on your laptop [01:03] ok, the WLAN driver is to be found at ipw3945.sf.net [01:03] "only" needs to be integrated into dapper... === Loevborg [n=loevborg@d7-30.dip.axsp.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Arrogance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-209-217-110-214.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel === seth|lappy [n=seth@ubuntu/member/seth] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:10] heylo === opi [n=emil@host-217-172-248-174.lodz.mm.pl] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:18] Hi guys [01:18] have you noticed that dapper/universe package list is broken? [01:18] more context? [01:18] broken as in how? [01:19] maybe mirror sync problems? [01:19] or just file not fully loaded? [01:19] oh, I'm stupid [01:20] I forgot that I'm currently using .pl mirror === opi bangs head against desk [01:21] yeah, it's sync problem. Sorry for the mess. :-) [01:21] for dapper I recommend to use the master, as it's more "up-to-date" [01:21] that's what I just did === ctd [n=ctd@colo-us.misconfigured.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:21] it's fresh installation, it was picked by installer to use .pl mirror :) === corey_ [n=corey@d66-183-174-128.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === TomB| [n=ownthebo@ACD43B0F.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:28] mdz, oh, and finnally some very strange and big bug: and deadlocks on intel 915GM known? [01:28] FSC Amilo M1450 hangs on loading X === Toadstool is now known as ToadZzZztool === jinty [n=jinty@230.Red-83-50-210.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-devel === seth|lappy [n=seth@ubuntu/member/seth] has joined #ubuntu-devel === FunnyLookinHat [n=FunnyLoo@71.57.11.218] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:54] guys is there a daily netinst image? === lifeless_ [n=robertc@dsl-43.1.240.220.rns01-kent-syd.dsl.comindico.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === TomB| [n=ownthebo@ACD43B0F.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === TomB| [n=ownthebo@ACD43B0F.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === hyperactivecrond [n=chatzill@adsl-68-253-67-159.dsl.bcvloh.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jadaz87 [n=jadaz87@pool-70-111-105-18.nwrk.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:29] hello everyone i had wanted to come out with my own ubuntu distrobution like they have ubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu i was wondering where can i start? === bddebian [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:31] jadaz87: and why would you want to do this? (not cynical, just curious) and what would you put in it? [02:31] i want to create a ubuntu release that is geared only towards laptop users [02:32] jadaz87: um. how? [02:32] hmm, how would that be different from the current Ubuntu? [02:32] adding more packages that are for mobile users as default without going to the repositories [02:32] why not put then in the repositories? [02:33] and taking away things that are not needed for mobile users [02:33] because you have to be connected to the internet to get it [02:33] so you want to customize the install cd, correct? [02:33] i am on a HP ze5000 desktop replacement series laptop and i had to go on lan in order to get the stuff i needed to get on wireless [02:34] yes a customized install cd i presume [02:34] so customize the ce jadaz87 [02:34] cd* [02:34] that is the part i do not know how to do [02:34] jadaz87: you might want to check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallCDCustomizationHowTo [02:35] oh ok thanks also i know i will have to get copyright permission before i can use the ubuntu name how do i go about that? [02:36] and does canonical aid in any way? [02:36] jadaz87: don't reinvent the wheel. you won't be able (i think do NOT quote me) to get listed on the official, supported by ubuntu community, caonical aided, on-the-main-page-of-the-website because it's too vague imo === Arr0gance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-209-217-83-88.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:36] s/aided/sponcered [02:36] sponsered [02:37] oh ok [02:37] then who sponsers these other projects like xubuntu, ubuntulite? [02:38] umm, nobody exactly [02:38] I think xubuntu has some hosting from the ubuntu China LoCo team perhaps [02:38] i am suprised kubuntu is on the official site then all that is, is ubuntu with kde [02:38] the copyright is still going to be any issue though [02:38] why? [02:39] jadaz87: trademark more than copyright. see the webpage for more details about trademark licensing. [02:39] jadaz87: kubuntu is a sister project. [02:39] jadaz87: can i /query you? [02:39] LaserJock i cannot use the ubuntu trademark with out permission [02:39] what does /query do? [02:40] same as /msg but keeps window open [02:40] oh sure [02:40] jadaz87: why would you use the ubuntu trademark? [02:40] LaserJock the same reason why xubuntu gets to use it [02:41] it does? [02:41] sorry, I'm very ignorant when it comes to these issues === slomo_ [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-devel === nekohayo [n=jeff@ip216-239-86-142.vif.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-devel === G0SUB_ [i=ghoseb@ubuntu-in.org] has joined #ubuntu-devel === womble [n=mpalmer@eth359.nsw.adsl.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === rturner [n=arty@37-41-112.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:58] Is /usr/bin/X11 supposed to be symlinked to ../bin? === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:01] bddebian: yes... === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.36] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jsgotangco [n=jsg@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:15] bddebian: yes, as everythig nin /usr/bin/X11 was moved to /usr/bin, symlink is there for backwards compat === truz24 [n=truz24@12-203-70-118.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:15] Lathiat: That was my guess, I was just curious because of Malone bug 4599 [04:15] Malone bug 4599 in wdm "wdm expects "X" at wrong location: /usr/bin/X11/X" [Normal,Needs info] http://launchpad.net/bugs/4599 === rturner [n=arty@37-41-112.adsl.terra.cl] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Ex-Chat"] === bpuccio [n=brian@ool-457a9c38.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mendred [n=mendred@59.92.43.71] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:38] infinity: is there a known issue with the madwifi module barfing in fligh 6? [04:40] infinity: Get your drunk ass off the floor and tell me how to fix ivtools.. :-) === bddebian hides [04:40] bddebian: bad boy :) [04:41] :-) === jlje [n=agp@cpe-204-210-33-233.san.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ozamosi- [n=nnozamos@h96n2c1o1049.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Mystic_Portal [n=chatzill@adsl-69-111-248-22.dsl.renocs.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ozamosi- is now known as ozamosi === mhz [n=mhz_chil@pc-252-84-215-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Mystic_Portal [n=chatzill@adsl-69-109-21-179.dsl.renocs.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Huahua [n=hua_@221.172.50.121] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Mystic_Portal [n=chatzill@adsl-69-109-21-179.dsl.renocs.pacbell.net] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === neuralis [n=krstic@solarsail.hcs.harvard.edu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === joelbryan [n=joelbrya@210.213.163.175] has joined #ubuntu-devel === andrewski [n=andrewsk@pool-141-158-32-173.phil.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mendred [n=mendred@59.92.43.71] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:51] hello, If all people in the planet that use Ubuntu will auto-join #ubuntu, do you think that would going to be a total chaos. [05:52] probably couldn't be much worse that #debian :-) [05:52] so if not, then US will join #ubuntu-US [05:52] at this point, you wouldn't even notice a difference in #ubuntu. it's already too fast for comprehension. [05:55] to solve that problem, the users will not auto-join #ubuntu, but will join #ubuntu-USA if they live in USA. === andrewski [n=andrewsk@pool-141-158-32-173.phil.east.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:03] I have a dumb question [06:03] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDownUnder/BOFs/Xen [06:03] Why is SimosXenetelis dependent on this? === minghua [n=minghua@69-153-139-36.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:11] bluefoxicy: because the dependents are calculated from a Full Text Search of Xen [06:14] LaserJock: ah. === stub [n=stub@ppp-58.8.6.146.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #ubuntu-devel === daq4th [n=darkness@netstation-005.cafe.zSeries.org] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:30] okay help [06:30] I don't know the best way to do roaming profiles-- NFS, samba, or sshfs === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Aegir [n=richard@d58-105-36-34.dsl.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === andrewski [n=andrewsk@pool-141-158-32-173.phil.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:42] is it appropriate to piggyback on someone else's laptop testing report in the wiki, e.g. to give results of something they didn't test or to clarify/mention more details? or should i perform a brand new test? [06:45] hey all [06:45] ubuntu-artwork is horked? [06:46] horked? [06:49] broken [06:49] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11733 anyone? [06:49] it's in the postinst [06:50] my ubuntu-artwork is 13 now. [06:51] hmm... nz mirror out of date. [06:51] gack [06:51] maybe try the us one (that's what i'm on) [06:51] yeah im updating now [06:51] thx [06:51] cool === mwright1 [n=Administ@203-214-76-125.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:52] hi [06:52] i'm actually having trouble with gnome-app-install, it's looking for python-dbus, which isn't available, so it can't be updated. is that bugworthy? [06:52] jmg: maybe you'll see that one crop up as soon as you update. ;) [06:53] andrewski: le sigh :) [06:54] it's not a big deal for me; i don't use g-a-i. but i think i'll throw it at launchpad, for posterity. [06:57] i got a new one [06:57] Setting up kubuntu-docs (6.06-2) ... [06:57] /usr/share/doc-base/kubuntu-adept: cannot open control file for reading: No such file or directory [06:58] hmm... what if you try installing adept first? does that help? [06:58] it's installed [06:58] erm... dunno. ^_^ [07:00] can someone give an opinion as to why I need to test this bug with 5.10 when I have filed it for Dapper drake [07:00] https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gnome-vfs2/+bug/36647 [07:00] Malone bug 36647 in Baltix "setgid not respected when copying into a directory" [Normal,Unconfirmed] [07:02] mwright1: looks like they're wondering if this is a bug that used to work. also, they're wondering if you could supply some steps to reproduce it, so that sebastian and others could reproduce it. [07:03] so if you've never tried on 5.10, i guess you could just say "dunno". :) [07:21] where is the config.gz for the ubuntu kernel? [07:21] why would you turn such a useful option off? [07:24] anyone got a link to the .config used for linux-image? === j^_ [n=j@e178029175.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:35] jmg, /boot/config-* ... [07:36] you really just don't need the /proc version since it's always packaged to the image [07:38] andrewski: it's easy to reproduce [07:38] I can do that, but I do not have a ubuntu 5.1 box [07:38] or install / live cds [07:38] mwright1: good. then it'd be easy to document on the bug. :) i don't think it's essential that you test it on breezy; it was just something that would be helpful to know. [07:39] the important thing is helping someone else reproduce it. maybe with some test dirs/files that you could create? === andrewski [n=andrewsk@pool-141-158-32-173.phil.east.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-devel === nadjyla [n=nadjyla@ALyon-209-1-2-54.w80-11.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:49] hello [07:53] hi nadjyla [08:03] andrewski: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gnome-vfs2/+bug/36647/+index is now upto date, there is step by step instructions to reproduce it and breezy + updates has been tested and it has the bug also [08:03] Malone bug 36647 in gnome-vfs "setgid not respected when copying into a directory" [Unknown,Unknown] === FliesLikeABrick [n=Ryan@about/rpi/rawdor] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:06] I think the problem is cause gnome is doing a move by default [08:06] even though the user requests a copy and that is the process which shoudl be taking place === Pancho [i=fjaraven@pc-17-20-83-200.cm.vtr.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Pancho [i=fjaraven@pc-17-20-83-200.cm.vtr.net] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [08:14] ogra: not fixed for me === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ToadZzZztool is now known as Toadstool === G0SUB_ [i=ghoseb@ubuntu-in.org] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jlje [n=agp@cpe-204-210-33-233.san.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.36] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mdke_ [n=matt@ubuntu/member/mdke] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:23] jdub: around? === mvo [n=egon@p54A654B8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === bmon [n=monnahan@193.Red-83-54-105.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mdke [n=matt@ubuntu/member/mdke] has joined #ubuntu-devel === j^ [n=j@e178029175.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === doko [n=doko@dslb-088-073-091-060.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Diziet [n=ian@xenophobe.extern.relativity.greenend.org.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:00] this is a usability question with gnome filemanager... nautilus [10:00] who makes those calls. [10:04] mwright1: I don't think the main devels are around [10:05] I'm not a devel at all [10:05] but whats the issue? [10:06] well i mistakenly put a bug in that setgid for group permissions wasn't being respected for copy action in nautilus [10:06] however it is being respected for copy action [10:06] the problem is with the move action ... being the default action [10:07] regular users want to move a file to a destination directory and don't want to change permissions themselves to make it available to their colleagues who are members of the same group [10:07] mv is the same as cp -a permissions wise in unix [10:08] I feel this is not the right way to do things in the end user world === MagnusR [n=magru@c83-250-59-127.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu-devel === human_blip [n=mike@220.157.65.181] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pef [n=loic@ubuntu/member/pef] has joined #ubuntu-devel === herman_ [n=herman@flits101-191.flits.rug.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === erez [n=erez@85-250-45-47.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #ubuntu-devel === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-devel === haggai [n=halls@i-83-67-59-194.freedom2surf.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mwright1 [n=Administ@203-214-76-125.dyn.iinet.net.au] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === jpatrick [n=patrick@ubuntu/member/jpatrick] has joined #ubuntu-devel === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-devel === robtaylor [n=robtaylo@dhansak.collabora.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === j^ [n=j@i577B1D96.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === bmon [n=monnahan@241.Red-83-53-131.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mendred [n=mendred@59.92.51.199] has joined #ubuntu-devel === JaneW [n=JaneW@dsl-146-191-135.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-devel === stub [n=stub@ppp-58.8.6.146.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #ubuntu-devel === bpuccio [n=brian@ool-457a9c38.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === j^_ [n=j@i577B2E1A.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === j^_ is now known as j^ === joelbryan [n=joelbrya@210.213.161.133] has joined #ubuntu-devel === bmon [n=monnahan@241.Red-83-53-131.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Whoopie [n=whoopie7@p54A78A3B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Whoopie [n=whoopie7@p54A78A3B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [12:37] mactel-boot from daily-dvd with bootcamp doesn't work :) usplash image is not visible, so there is something wrong with vesa? [12:38] The firmware's vesa doesn't seem to quite match the kernel's idea of vesa [12:39] This new firmware makes life quite difficult [12:39] I bet [12:39] can someone look at malone 38705 ? [12:39] Malone bug 38705 in kmplayer "UVF kmplayer 0.9.2-pre3 -> 0.9.2-rc1" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/38705 [12:40] tepsipakki: But right now, you won't be able to install on a Mac (even using the new firmware) [12:40] I'm not even trying, but a friend of mine who told that it wont work :) [12:41] so no worries === ohoel [n=beshy@214.84-48-169.nextgentel.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === herzi [n=herzi@d015172.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:17] did someone recently filed a bug in malone via email? are they any bad caveats I need to consider? === ompaul [n=ompaul@ubuntu/member/ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-devel === LarstiQ [n=larstiq@cust.7.157.adsl.cistron.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === kent [n=kent@kr-lun-89-144-233-83.3.cust.bredband2.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === OculusAquilae [n=oculus@pD950968A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === gouchi [n=Doudou@ASt-Lambert-153-1-6-59.w82-124.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.36] has joined #ubuntu-devel === iceman [n=iceman@107-244.242.81.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ivoks [n=ivoks@lns01-1381.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:41] can someone with main upload privileges have a look at #37422 ? just added desktop file, debdiff is provided, thanks ! === hunger [n=tobias@p54A62A9E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zeedo [n=zeedo@reboot-robot.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ealden [n=ealden@203.76.212.51] has joined #ubuntu-devel === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:32] can anyone tell me what package I need to file a bug on if I want to complain about the names that other mounted partitions are given on the desktop? === Loevborg [n=loevborg@d7-30.dip.axsp.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === gouchi [n=Doudou@ASt-Lambert-153-1-6-59.w82-124.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [03:35] mdke: pmount, but let me check that... === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:36] no, it's not pmount [03:36] ivoks, could it be gnome-volume-manager or something? [03:36] no, it's not gvm [03:36] it's hal or dbus :) [03:36] more likely hal === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:37] ivoks, ok, I'll file there, it can get reassigned if wrong [03:37] yes, it's hal [03:37] thanks! [03:37] what bug # is that? [03:38] it's acctually not a bug, it's a feature [03:38] names are given according to label name [03:38] i didn't file it yet [03:38] but my breezy partition appears as "/" which is kinda silly, given that I already have a "/" [03:39] hm [03:39] i'd prefer it to appear as /media/whatever [03:39] what's it's label name? [03:39] I don't know. [03:39] mdke: you can do that, but that's not a bug [03:39] imo it's a bug for it to appear under a name which suggests its my root directory, when it isn't [03:39] mdke: dirty way is to change /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/10osvendor/10-storage-policy.fdi [03:40] i think i'll file it and take the risk of rejection :) [03:40] mdke: but there is a nicer way, but i'm not sure wich is it... :( [03:40] gtg, thanks for your help [03:40] :) ok === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:41] heylo === Aegir [n=richard@d58-105-36-34.dsl.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === TMM [n=hp@c51471f2c.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Gloubiboulga is now known as Gloubiboulga|AFK [03:57] mdz: Around? Any objections to a UVF exception for re2c (from 0.9.10 to 0.9.12) to satisfy PHP's insistence that anything (<< 0.9.11) is broken? === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-devel === bmon [n=monnahan@166.Red-80-39-132.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === otavio [n=otavio@debian/developer/otavio] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lakin [n=lakin@S01060013101832ce.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Kyral [n=kyral@HyperDream.hamlin.clarkson.edu] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:16] tepsipakki: on the ATI mactels (the iMac) the video BIOS is buggy [04:16] tepsipakki: ^^legacy VGA BIOS === HiddenWolf [n=HiddenWo@136.254.dynamic.phpg.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Gloubiboulga|AFK is now known as Gloubiboulga === bronson [n=bronson@pool-68-160-59-53.bos.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === JanC [n=janc@lugwv/member/JanC] has joined #ubuntu-devel === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zyga [n=zyga@ubuntu/member/zyga] has joined #ubuntu-devel === j_ack [n=nico@p508DC001.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-devel === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-devel === wasabi__ [n=wasabi@c-67-166-206-241.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Znarl [n=karl@bb-82-108-14-161.ukonline.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cassidy [n=cassidy@f1-pc174.ulb.ac.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === stu1 [n=stub@ppp-58.8.5.55.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Lure [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #ubuntu-devel === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ivoks [n=ivoks@lns01-1381.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lloydinho [n=andreas@rosinante.egmont-kol.dk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === j^ [n=j@e178029175.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Lure [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mdke_ [n=matt@ubuntu/member/mdke] has joined #ubuntu-devel === soumyadip [n=soumyadi@59.93.242.158] has joined #ubuntu-devel === gouchi [n=gouchi@ASt-Lambert-153-1-29-101.w81-249.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Yagisan [n=jamie@60-240-68-200-nsw-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dborg [n=daniel@e182048194.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mhz [n=mhz_chil@pc-252-84-215-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === andrewski [n=andrewsk@pool-141-158-32-173.phil.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:00] is a regression in the support on dapper for a printer/scanner bugworthy? [07:02] andrewski: I'd assume so, dapper is supposed to be better [07:02] Yagisan: one would think. :) yeah, i'll go ahead and file it and if any devs want to yell at me, i'll let 'em. ;) [07:03] but first, i guess i should try it on flight 6. === truz24 [n=truz24@12-203-70-118.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-devel === bddebian [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #ubuntu-devel === qweasdzxc [n=tapeworm@d83-184-170-48.cust.tele2.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === nictuku [n=yves@unaffiliated/nictuku] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:37] Seveas, hi. are you there, and not busy? === nictuku is now known as yves [07:43] yes and no [07:43] if this is about the cloak: it's on it's way [07:43] yves, ^ [07:44] ah ok, thank you again === LaserJock goes into stealth mode, gotta love the cloak [07:47] actually, I haven't really figured out exactly why it is useful, other than people can tell ubuntu members from the hostmask === yves is now known as nictuku === dborg [n=daniel@e182061070.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === thesaltydog [n=fabio@ubuntu/member/thesaltydog] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lbm [n=lbm@cpe.atm2-0-1301064.0x50a08372.abnxx3.customer.tele.dk] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:18] LaserJock: it's useful so we can bug you when X breaks :P === bluefoxicy remembers when X broke in breezy devel for like a month.... [08:19] and if you bugged me, it would be pretty pointless ;-) [08:20] LaserJock: this is why I don't have a cloak. I hate them. [08:20] LaserJock: I can be found _anyway_, just google my nick === Huahua [n=hua_@221.172.50.121] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:23] Treenaks: heh, I just found when I was starting out that it was easier to tell if a person had some Ubuntu experience because of the cloak [08:23] LaserJock: hm.. that's a point, but you could also look on launchpad for that [08:23] perhaps, although LP has some weirdnesses that way. [08:26] I mean, that Shuttleworth guy has got 180000+ karma, but what has he done for Ubuntu ;-p [08:26] lp needs a qdb module ;) === LaserJock is now known as LaserJock_away === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === otavio is now known as otavio[off] === HiddenWolf [n=HiddenWo@136.254.dynamic.phpg.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === TomB| [n=ownthebo@ACD43B0F.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mat [n=mat@igoan/mat] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Lure [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #ubuntu-devel === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Lure [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #ubuntu-devel === otavio[off] is now known as otavio === LaserJock_away is now known as LaserJock === KaiL [n=KaiL@p548F6F6E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jsz [n=diego@59.Red-80-36-85.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ompaul [n=ompaul@ubuntu/member/ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dborg` [n=daniel@e182049156.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:48] ogra: around ? === lakin [n=lakin@S01060013101832ce.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel