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carthikHi All, is there a way for me to find th pages I;ve edited on the wiki?01:12
theCorecarthik: I don't think so01:15
carthiktheCore, ta01:16
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LaserJockhi theCore 01:30
LaserJockhi carthik 01:30
carthikhi LaserJock 01:30
theCorebonsoir LaserJock01:30
LaserJockcarthik: that is an interesting idea. I wonder if that is possible01:31
LaserJockseems kinda obvious to have but I don't see it right off the bat01:31
carthikLaserJock, wouldn't it be simple to do, too? I think I could do that at mediawiki (though I am not so sure)01:32
LaserJocktheCore: have you had a chance to see the final product :-)01:32
carthikLaserJock, i edited a small page, and I cant find it for the life of me.01:32
corey_mediawiki has that feature01:35
theCorethe final product?01:35
LaserJockcarthik: do you remember what it was about at all? you could use the full text search on some keywords01:35
corey_moin does not01:35
LaserJocktheCore: the Packaging Guide is done. We are at string freeze01:35
theCorecrap ...01:35
theCoremy diffs ...01:35
crimsunwait.01:35
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crimsunyou called for comments AT string freeze?01:35
LaserJockyep01:35
LaserJockcrimsun: you know there are always exceptions ;-)01:36
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LaserJockyeah, well it didn't go as fast as I wanted01:36
LaserJockI spent ~30 hrs in the last 2 days on it01:36
carthikLaserJock, it was something to do with wireless, A page that was a stub with a few details, that I thought could be deleted. Not too important though. I just thought that I;d ask here if there was some way of searching that I didn't know of.01:37
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Madpilothi all03:30
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theCoreLaserJock: nice work on the PG03:51
LaserJockthanks03:52
LaserJocka lot of people did a lot of work03:52
theCoreyep, and I missed my chance ... 03:53
LaserJockyou helped03:53
theCoreI been working all the week03:53
LaserJockI'm thankful for your help03:53
theCoreI could had done much more03:53
LaserJockwell, you had computer issues too03:55
theCoreso, what I will do with my diffs?03:57
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Madpilotrobotgeek, I added a "...To Kubuntu" section to the Migrating wiki page04:00
Burgundaviasalut all04:00
robotgeekMadpilot: awesome :)04:00
Burgundaviabloody flight6 madwifi driver sucks04:00
Madpilothi Burgundavia 04:00
robotgeekMadpilot: we all need a breather, don't we :)04:01
Madpilotrobotgeek, for sure - I just wanted to get that MigratingFromWindows stuff started before I forgot about it again! :P04:02
LaserJocktheCore: send me the diffs04:02
LaserJockhi Madpilot robotgeek Burgundavia 04:02
robotgeekhowdy LaserJock 04:02
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Burgundaviasalut jsgotangco04:13
jsgotangcohey04:13
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LaserJockhi jsgotangco 04:16
jsgotangcohey04:17
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theCoreLaserJock: oh, I found a typo 04:17
LaserJockof course :/04:18
theCorein Updating Packages04:18
theCore"To creat a dpatch patch do the following:"04:18
LaserJockdang it, really? I thought I fixed that04:20
theCoreI got the lastest revision, and it still there04:21
jsgotangcoQA is king04:22
LaserJockhmm, I'm getting more feedback after the freeze than before :-)04:28
LaserJockI sure wish I could have finished a week ago04:28
jsgotangcoLaserJock: 3 years from now :)04:29
LaserJockheh04:29
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theCoreLaserJock: Did you saw my lame diff?04:48
LaserJockI did04:48
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LaserJocktheCore: don't feel bad. you did what you could04:48
jsgotangcono! failure is failure!04:48
jsgotangcojoke04:48
LaserJockjsgotangco: go to debian-devel where you belong04:49
LaserJockalso a joke ;-)04:49
jsgotangconahh its nice an warm here04:49
theCore:)04:50
LaserJockI'm somewhat concerned about how much I can change now that we have the freeze04:54
LaserJockI would assume typos and minor changes are ok04:54
LaserJock(well, typos aren't ok)04:54
LaserJockbut typo fixes should be ;-)04:56
jsgotangcoyes the pots can be easily generated and even if there are translations being made as long as the changes do not include re-phrasing, i would say its safe04:57
LaserJockwhat about additions? like a note about taking out cdrom lines out of /etc/pbuilder/apt.config/sources.list ?05:00
jsgotangcoi think its safe to do that now, i dont think the pots are uploaded yet05:01
jsgotangcoi think they're not uploaded yet rather05:02
jsgotangcoor else i'l now see an annoucement in -translators05:02
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jsgotangcociao guys im out for the mall05:25
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LaserJockhi robitaille 06:02
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robitailleLaserJock:  hi06:55
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robotgeekLaserJock: the kubuntu-docs don't install anymore06:55
robotgeekwould you have something to do with that?06:55
LaserJockwhat? I sure hope not07:00
LaserJockwhat does it say?07:00
robotgeek /usr/share/doc-base/kubuntu-adept: cannot open control file for reading: No such file or directory07:00
LaserJockahhhhh, craaap07:00
LaserJockit does that at install?07:01
robotgeekLaserJock: yessir07:02
robotgeekupdate, actually07:02
LaserJockhmm, I just updated and it worked07:07
LaserJockoh wait07:07
robotgeekLaserJock: you know why freenx not in dapper?07:16
LaserJocknot sure, I've tried to get it to work before and never got it. 07:16
robotgeekLaserJock: worked for me firest time out07:17
LaserJockthere are some unofficial debs by doko, I think07:17
robotgeekseveas also has a few07:17
LaserJockoh, yeah. That is who I meant07:17
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LaserJockrobotgeek:  looks like Riddell didn't apply all my changes :/07:30
robotgeekLaserJock: ah, okay. i already pinged him, so i think it might be fixed07:31
LaserJockrobotgeek: basically what happens is the posinst script is looking for the files I added but the rules file doesn't install them 07:34
robotgeekLaserJock: hmm, okay. not a big error ( i know), but people in #kubuntu are freaking out :)07:35
LaserJockheh, want me to go over there and apologise and expain? :-)07:37
robotgeekLaserJock: nope, i just wanted to let you know that there was a problem :)07:38
robotgeeki seem to have overabuse my f12 button07:39
LaserJock?07:40
robotgeekfn + f12 for eject, f12 for beagle search, and yakauke also wants f12 :P07:41
LaserJocklol07:41
robotgeekanyways, night07:42
LaserJockcya, thanks for the heads up on the kubuntu-docs thing07:42
robotgeekLaserJock: thanks for fixing (future)07:43
LaserJockwell, Riddell needs to do the fixing ;-)07:43
LaserJockI just need to make sure I had my stuff right07:43
LaserJockneeded07:43
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robotgeekhttps://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/dapper/+source/kubuntu-docs/+translations has quick guide o_o09:19
Madpilotoops09:20
Madpilothit the mailing list, Matt should be up in an hour or so09:20
robotgeekkk09:20
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Madpilotmorning mdke 09:42
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Madpilothttps://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xchat/+bug/38694/10:12
mdkerobotgeek, yes, I've requested it be removed. But it is a non-trivial process10:50
mdkeI will only announce translation when they have been removed10:51
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mdkerobotgeek, ping?11:23
mdkerobotgeek, lemme know: do you have all patches from _frank? There are 4 waiting in the moderator queue for the mailing list11:44
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warpforgeHow can I try to get my wiki documentation into the main guide?11:46
Madpilotdepends what it covers, mostly11:47
Madpilotwhich wiki docs are you thinking of?11:47
warpforgeI just wrote BluetoothDialup today11:48
warpforgeIt's a network connectivity thing, so it would be nice to be able to access it sans Internet11:48
warpforgeOf course, I'd need to finish out data for other providers and phones11:49
Madpilotwe've just frozen the docs that'll ship with Dapper, but for Dapper+1 we know the networking section needs more work11:49
warpforgeYeah, I know Dapper is frozen. I'm just curious about the next release11:49
warpforgeDoes the Doc team regularly move wiki articles into the main help?11:50
Madpilotnot intact, generally, but they often get linked to from the help, or used as a resource when writing sections11:50
Madpilotwarpforge, are you on the docteam mailing list?11:51
warpforgeJust joined it11:55
warpforgeAbout 10 minutes ago11:55
Madpilotgood11:56
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robotgeekmdke: do you see anything about common-tasks.xml (i don't think so)04:06
robotgeekmdke: i think everything has been commited, so go ahead with uploads04:10
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LaserJockman, one little boo boo and the bugs start coming in05:07
_frankmdke: all my patches were commited on the 6th05:14
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LaserJockmdke_: are you aroundish?06:58
LaserJockmdke_: I'm a little uncertain about fixing bugs after the freeze. Should I just commit? or should I hold off?07:01
mdke_LaserJock, what's up?07:16
LaserJockmdke_: I got some feedback07:16
mdke__frank, great thanks, I'll cancel the waiting posts07:16
LaserJockmdke_: so I wanted to fix some types and add some clarifications/warnings 07:17
LaserJockwhat is the proper method? just commit?07:17
mdke_LaserJock, yeah go ahead. We always said the packaging guide could have some more space07:17
LaserJockAfter I make changes do I need to notify anybody or do something?07:18
LaserJockI don't want to mess with the translators07:18
mdke_well, we didn't announce translation yet07:18
LaserJockoh, ok07:18
mdkebut we'll need to generate a new pot file, and upload it to rosetta07:19
LaserJockare you the one that does that?07:19
mdkeyou can do it too if you like.07:19
LaserJockreally?07:19
LaserJockok07:19
mdkeyou go to generic/packagingguide07:19
mdkethen the command is: xml2po -e -o packagingguide.pot C/*xml C/packagingguide-C.omf07:20
LaserJockok, great07:21
mdkehmm, we don't have permissions to upload it to rosetta07:21
mdkejust commit it to svn, it'll go in on the next ubuntu-docs upload07:21
mdkei'll ask about uploading manually to rosetta07:21
LaserJockok07:22
mdkewhen creating the pot, the key thing to remember is to include the omf07:22
LaserJockso right now rosetta is updated by an upload of the ubuntu-docs package?07:23
mdkeyes07:23
LaserJockah, I see07:23
LaserJockok, well I can take care of the .pot anyway07:25
mdkeyep07:25
mdkeit's very early, don't worry07:25
mdkeglad you got some feedback :)07:25
LaserJockyeah, I was sorta suprised. So far it is all pretty good07:26
mdkecool07:26
LaserJockthe Pbuilder section seems to be the common problem07:27
mdkedapper only has 3 bugs07:28
mdkehttps://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/dapper/+bugs07:28
mdkegood news07:28
LaserJockthat is good07:29
mdkein that case, i think I'll dist upgrade my work laptop tomorrow07:37
LaserJockmdke: another quick .pot question. I assume that stuff inside xml tags is ignored, right? I wanted to update some of the status tags.07:42
mdkeyep, most tags07:42
mdkethere are some exceptions, like <emphasis> and <ulink> and so on07:43
LaserJockwhy emphasis?07:43
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LaserJockfine, just wondered.07:44
mdkeI don't really know much about it07:44
LaserJockso updating the status tags shouldn't ne a problem07:45
mdkenope07:45
k31thwats the easy'st way to gloablly change the word brezzy to dapper in /etc/apt/sources.list ? can i use sed?08:09
LaserJocksure, but is there that many of them? or do you want it to be non-interactive08:12
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k31thYo guys, does the wlan section still need covering ?08:37
trappistk31th: in the serverguide? we nuked it.  and we're in string freeze09:34
k31thtrappist: oh ok.09:34
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