[01:12] <carthik> Hi All, is there a way for me to find th pages I;ve edited on the wiki?
[01:15] <theCore> carthik: I don't think so
[01:16] <carthik> theCore, ta
[01:30] <LaserJock> hi theCore 
[01:30] <LaserJock> hi carthik 
[01:30] <carthik> hi LaserJock 
[01:30] <theCore> bonsoir LaserJock
[01:31] <LaserJock> carthik: that is an interesting idea. I wonder if that is possible
[01:31] <LaserJock> seems kinda obvious to have but I don't see it right off the bat
[01:32] <carthik> LaserJock, wouldn't it be simple to do, too? I think I could do that at mediawiki (though I am not so sure)
[01:32] <LaserJock> theCore: have you had a chance to see the final product :-)
[01:32] <carthik> LaserJock, i edited a small page, and I cant find it for the life of me.
[01:35] <corey_> mediawiki has that feature
[01:35] <theCore> the final product?
[01:35] <LaserJock> carthik: do you remember what it was about at all? you could use the full text search on some keywords
[01:35] <corey_> moin does not
[01:35] <LaserJock> theCore: the Packaging Guide is done. We are at string freeze
[01:35] <theCore> crap ...
[01:35] <theCore> my diffs ...
[01:35] <crimsun> wait.
[01:35] <crimsun> you called for comments AT string freeze?
[01:35] <LaserJock> yep
[01:36] <LaserJock> crimsun: you know there are always exceptions ;-)
[01:36] <LaserJock> yeah, well it didn't go as fast as I wanted
[01:36] <LaserJock> I spent ~30 hrs in the last 2 days on it
[01:37] <carthik> LaserJock, it was something to do with wireless, A page that was a stub with a few details, that I thought could be deleted. Not too important though. I just thought that I;d ask here if there was some way of searching that I didn't know of.
[03:30] <Madpilot> hi all
[03:51] <theCore> LaserJock: nice work on the PG
[03:52] <LaserJock> thanks
[03:52] <LaserJock> a lot of people did a lot of work
[03:53] <theCore> yep, and I missed my chance ... 
[03:53] <LaserJock> you helped
[03:53] <theCore> I been working all the week
[03:53] <LaserJock> I'm thankful for your help
[03:53] <theCore> I could had done much more
[03:55] <LaserJock> well, you had computer issues too
[03:57] <theCore> so, what I will do with my diffs?
[04:00] <Madpilot> robotgeek, I added a "...To Kubuntu" section to the Migrating wiki page
[04:00] <Burgundavia> salut all
[04:00] <robotgeek> Madpilot: awesome :)
[04:00] <Burgundavia> bloody flight6 madwifi driver sucks
[04:00] <Madpilot> hi Burgundavia 
[04:01] <robotgeek> Madpilot: we all need a breather, don't we :)
[04:02] <Madpilot> robotgeek, for sure - I just wanted to get that MigratingFromWindows stuff started before I forgot about it again! :P
[04:02] <LaserJock> theCore: send me the diffs
[04:02] <LaserJock> hi Madpilot robotgeek Burgundavia 
[04:02] <robotgeek> howdy LaserJock 
[04:13] <Burgundavia> salut jsgotangco
[04:13] <jsgotangco> hey
[04:16] <LaserJock> hi jsgotangco 
[04:17] <jsgotangco> hey
[04:17] <theCore> LaserJock: oh, I found a typo 
[04:18] <LaserJock> of course :/
[04:18] <theCore> in Updating Packages
[04:18] <theCore> "To creat a dpatch patch do the following:"
[04:20] <LaserJock> dang it, really? I thought I fixed that
[04:21] <theCore> I got the lastest revision, and it still there
[04:22] <jsgotangco> QA is king
[04:28] <LaserJock> hmm, I'm getting more feedback after the freeze than before :-)
[04:28] <LaserJock> I sure wish I could have finished a week ago
[04:29] <jsgotangco> LaserJock: 3 years from now :)
[04:29] <LaserJock> heh
[04:48] <theCore> LaserJock: Did you saw my lame diff?
[04:48] <LaserJock> I did
[04:48] <LaserJock> theCore: don't feel bad. you did what you could
[04:48] <jsgotangco> no! failure is failure!
[04:48] <jsgotangco> joke
[04:49] <LaserJock> jsgotangco: go to debian-devel where you belong
[04:49] <LaserJock> also a joke ;-)
[04:49] <jsgotangco> nahh its nice an warm here
[04:50] <theCore> :)
[04:54] <LaserJock> I'm somewhat concerned about how much I can change now that we have the freeze
[04:54] <LaserJock> I would assume typos and minor changes are ok
[04:54] <LaserJock> (well, typos aren't ok)
[04:56] <LaserJock> but typo fixes should be ;-)
[04:57] <jsgotangco> yes the pots can be easily generated and even if there are translations being made as long as the changes do not include re-phrasing, i would say its safe
[05:00] <LaserJock> what about additions? like a note about taking out cdrom lines out of /etc/pbuilder/apt.config/sources.list ?
[05:01] <jsgotangco> i think its safe to do that now, i dont think the pots are uploaded yet
[05:02] <jsgotangco> i think they're not uploaded yet rather
[05:02] <jsgotangco> or else i'l now see an annoucement in -translators
[05:25] <jsgotangco> ciao guys im out for the mall
[06:02] <LaserJock> hi robitaille 
[06:55] <robitaille> LaserJock:  hi
[06:55] <robotgeek> LaserJock: the kubuntu-docs don't install anymore
[06:55] <robotgeek> would you have something to do with that?
[07:00] <LaserJock> what? I sure hope not
[07:00] <LaserJock> what does it say?
[07:00] <robotgeek>  /usr/share/doc-base/kubuntu-adept: cannot open control file for reading: No such file or directory
[07:00] <LaserJock> ahhhhh, craaap
[07:01] <LaserJock> it does that at install?
[07:02] <robotgeek> LaserJock: yessir
[07:02] <robotgeek> update, actually
[07:07] <LaserJock> hmm, I just updated and it worked
[07:07] <LaserJock> oh wait
[07:16] <robotgeek> LaserJock: you know why freenx not in dapper?
[07:16] <LaserJock> not sure, I've tried to get it to work before and never got it. 
[07:17] <robotgeek> LaserJock: worked for me firest time out
[07:17] <LaserJock> there are some unofficial debs by doko, I think
[07:17] <robotgeek> seveas also has a few
[07:17] <LaserJock> oh, yeah. That is who I meant
[07:30] <LaserJock> robotgeek:  looks like Riddell didn't apply all my changes :/
[07:31] <robotgeek> LaserJock: ah, okay. i already pinged him, so i think it might be fixed
[07:34] <LaserJock> robotgeek: basically what happens is the posinst script is looking for the files I added but the rules file doesn't install them 
[07:35] <robotgeek> LaserJock: hmm, okay. not a big error ( i know), but people in #kubuntu are freaking out :)
[07:37] <LaserJock> heh, want me to go over there and apologise and expain? :-)
[07:38] <robotgeek> LaserJock: nope, i just wanted to let you know that there was a problem :)
[07:39] <robotgeek> i seem to have overabuse my f12 button
[07:40] <LaserJock> ?
[07:41] <robotgeek> fn + f12 for eject, f12 for beagle search, and yakauke also wants f12 :P
[07:41] <LaserJock> lol
[07:42] <robotgeek> anyways, night
[07:42] <LaserJock> cya, thanks for the heads up on the kubuntu-docs thing
[07:43] <robotgeek> LaserJock: thanks for fixing (future)
[07:43] <LaserJock> well, Riddell needs to do the fixing ;-)
[07:43] <LaserJock> I just need to make sure I had my stuff right
[07:43] <LaserJock> needed
[09:19] <robotgeek> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/dapper/+source/kubuntu-docs/+translations has quick guide o_o
[09:20] <Madpilot> oops
[09:20] <Madpilot> hit the mailing list, Matt should be up in an hour or so
[09:20] <robotgeek> kk
[09:42] <Madpilot> morning mdke 
[10:12] <Madpilot> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xchat/+bug/38694/
[10:50] <mdke> robotgeek, yes, I've requested it be removed. But it is a non-trivial process
[10:51] <mdke> I will only announce translation when they have been removed
[11:23] <mdke> robotgeek, ping?
[11:44] <mdke> robotgeek, lemme know: do you have all patches from _frank? There are 4 waiting in the moderator queue for the mailing list
[11:46] <warpforge> How can I try to get my wiki documentation into the main guide?
[11:47] <Madpilot> depends what it covers, mostly
[11:47] <Madpilot> which wiki docs are you thinking of?
[11:48] <warpforge> I just wrote BluetoothDialup today
[11:48] <warpforge> It's a network connectivity thing, so it would be nice to be able to access it sans Internet
[11:49] <warpforge> Of course, I'd need to finish out data for other providers and phones
[11:49] <Madpilot> we've just frozen the docs that'll ship with Dapper, but for Dapper+1 we know the networking section needs more work
[11:49] <warpforge> Yeah, I know Dapper is frozen. I'm just curious about the next release
[11:50] <warpforge> Does the Doc team regularly move wiki articles into the main help?
[11:50] <Madpilot> not intact, generally, but they often get linked to from the help, or used as a resource when writing sections
[11:51] <Madpilot> warpforge, are you on the docteam mailing list?
[11:55] <warpforge> Just joined it
[11:55] <warpforge> About 10 minutes ago
[11:56] <Madpilot> good
[04:06] <robotgeek> mdke: do you see anything about common-tasks.xml (i don't think so)
[04:10] <robotgeek> mdke: i think everything has been commited, so go ahead with uploads
[05:07] <LaserJock> man, one little boo boo and the bugs start coming in
[05:14] <_frank> mdke: all my patches were commited on the 6th
[06:58] <LaserJock> mdke_: are you aroundish?
[07:01] <LaserJock> mdke_: I'm a little uncertain about fixing bugs after the freeze. Should I just commit? or should I hold off?
[07:16] <mdke_> LaserJock, what's up?
[07:16] <LaserJock> mdke_: I got some feedback
[07:16] <mdke_> _frank, great thanks, I'll cancel the waiting posts
[07:17] <LaserJock> mdke_: so I wanted to fix some types and add some clarifications/warnings 
[07:17] <LaserJock> what is the proper method? just commit?
[07:17] <mdke_> LaserJock, yeah go ahead. We always said the packaging guide could have some more space
[07:18] <LaserJock> After I make changes do I need to notify anybody or do something?
[07:18] <LaserJock> I don't want to mess with the translators
[07:18] <mdke_> well, we didn't announce translation yet
[07:18] <LaserJock> oh, ok
[07:19] <mdke> but we'll need to generate a new pot file, and upload it to rosetta
[07:19] <LaserJock> are you the one that does that?
[07:19] <mdke> you can do it too if you like.
[07:19] <LaserJock> really?
[07:19] <LaserJock> ok
[07:19] <mdke> you go to generic/packagingguide
[07:20] <mdke> then the command is: xml2po -e -o packagingguide.pot C/*xml C/packagingguide-C.omf
[07:21] <LaserJock> ok, great
[07:21] <mdke> hmm, we don't have permissions to upload it to rosetta
[07:21] <mdke> just commit it to svn, it'll go in on the next ubuntu-docs upload
[07:21] <mdke> i'll ask about uploading manually to rosetta
[07:22] <LaserJock> ok
[07:22] <mdke> when creating the pot, the key thing to remember is to include the omf
[07:23] <LaserJock> so right now rosetta is updated by an upload of the ubuntu-docs package?
[07:23] <mdke> yes
[07:23] <LaserJock> ah, I see
[07:25] <LaserJock> ok, well I can take care of the .pot anyway
[07:25] <mdke> yep
[07:25] <mdke> it's very early, don't worry
[07:25] <mdke> glad you got some feedback :)
[07:26] <LaserJock> yeah, I was sorta suprised. So far it is all pretty good
[07:26] <mdke> cool
[07:27] <LaserJock> the Pbuilder section seems to be the common problem
[07:28] <mdke> dapper only has 3 bugs
[07:28] <mdke> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/dapper/+bugs
[07:28] <mdke> good news
[07:29] <LaserJock> that is good
[07:37] <mdke> in that case, i think I'll dist upgrade my work laptop tomorrow
[07:42] <LaserJock> mdke: another quick .pot question. I assume that stuff inside xml tags is ignored, right? I wanted to update some of the status tags.
[07:42] <mdke> yep, most tags
[07:43] <mdke> there are some exceptions, like <emphasis> and <ulink> and so on
[07:43] <LaserJock> why emphasis?
[07:44] <LaserJock> fine, just wondered.
[07:44] <mdke> I don't really know much about it
[07:45] <LaserJock> so updating the status tags shouldn't ne a problem
[07:45] <mdke> nope
[08:09] <k31th> wats the easy'st way to gloablly change the word brezzy to dapper in /etc/apt/sources.list ? can i use sed?
[08:12] <LaserJock> sure, but is there that many of them? or do you want it to be non-interactive
[08:37] <k31th> Yo guys, does the wlan section still need covering ?
[09:34] <trappist> k31th: in the serverguide? we nuked it.  and we're in string freeze
[09:34] <k31th> trappist: oh ok.