=== Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJock [n=laserjoc@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:28] morning [12:28] morning ajmitch === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:29] hi ajmitch === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:33] LaserJock quick question, when ls -l cant read the content of some dir ,does that means is corrupted? [12:33] or permission denied [12:33] hi btw [12:33] hello [12:34] ma bad...not the content...it just 'cant' read its info [12:34] ?--------- ? ? ? ? ? /media/icy_more/downloads <- to be more specific [12:34] interesting [12:34] very lol [12:34] empty permissions set [12:35] what's with the ? in there? [12:35] i dunno, some dirs there are like that, and i just hope its not curropted [12:35] *corrupted [12:35] possibly [12:35] what fs is it? [12:35] ext3 [12:35] Lathiat: ping [12:35] no [12:35] fat sorry [12:35] fsck it [12:35] ah [12:36] fat is more likely to corrupt, and it doesn't have permissions anyway [12:36] check the mount options [12:36] its normal like the other partitions [12:37] hi Se7h (belated) [12:38] and I have no idea [12:39] ajmitch any idea? [12:39] besides corruption [12:40] nope [12:40] I rarely use fat [12:41] well, i do in this case cus its external, and i need to be able to access it on other machines [12:41] Lathiat: sorry, unping [12:42] crimsun: it would have been an optimistic ping [12:42] good night [12:42] night daniel [12:42] night dholbach [12:42] night guys :) [12:42] night dholbach === DarkMageZ [n=DarkMage@ppp44-218.lns2.syd6.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Arrogance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-209-217-110-214.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === seth|lappy [n=seth@ubuntu/member/seth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ctd [n=ctd@colo-us.misconfigured.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === persia [n=persia@p1119-ipbf510marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jinty [n=jinty@230.Red-83-50-210.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:47] motus question [01:48] one package depending on gtk has to have a 'libx11' build-dep ? === seth|lappy [n=seth@ubuntu/member/seth] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:52] Se7h: I don't quite understand the question? [01:53] one app depending on gtk2 [01:53] on build-deps needs to have libx11 for example besides libgtk ? === FunnyLookinHat [n=FunnyLoo@71.57.11.218] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:54] no [01:55] apt-cache depends libgtk2.0-dev |grep x11 Depends: libx11-dev [01:56] crimsun yes i know, but some debian packager send me a source package for debian witch im packaging for ubuntu, and his had all X libs in it... [01:56] the doubt came [01:56] didn't make much sense tho [01:56] Se7h: then keep his version, but submit a patch to BTS for debian/control === lifeless_ [n=robertc@dsl-43.1.240.220.rns01-kent-syd.dsl.comindico.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:57] those differences are best minimised in Ubuntu to avoid unnecessary deltas [01:57] crimsun cant i just suggest him to change that for himself? (since it hasnt been uploaded yet) [01:58] Se7h: certainly [01:58] he should know that as a Debian maintainer/developer [02:00] yes, when i saw his package it looked a little odd...but could be some wierd rule or something...i dunno === jaldhar [n=jaldhar@c-68-38-202-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:30] Heya Gang [02:30] hi bddebian [02:30] Heya LaserJock [02:31] lo bddebian, LaserJock [02:31] hiya crimsun [02:31] hi bddebian [02:32] Heya crimsun, Se7h === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:34] 'lo Hobbsee [02:34] hey crimsun [02:34] what am i going to do today? [02:34] taking over the world [02:34] err, take over the world [02:34] "they're pinky and the brain".. [02:34] ooh that could be fun [02:34] Hello Hobbsee [02:35] hey bddebian [02:35] bbiam === Arr0gance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-209-217-83-88.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:56] bddebian: thats one of my favorite cartoons of all time too bad its not on anymore [02:56] zul: :-) [02:56] narf! [02:57] hehe [02:57] So if desktop-file-validate just dumps back to the CL, it's OK? [03:04] echo $? === slomo_ [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:06] echo, echo, echo... [03:06] Heya slomo_ === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:27] bddebian: Yes, as all good tools, desktop-file-validate is silent when successful. [03:28] heh [03:28] Hello persia [03:28] Hello bddebian. [03:28] bddebian: I meant that if it's 0, yes, it's ok. [03:29] crimsun: :-) === Meyer [i=mariomey@ubuntu/member/mariomeyer] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-motu === G0SUB_ [i=ghoseb@ubuntu-in.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu === womble [n=mpalmer@eth359.nsw.adsl.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.36] has joined #ubuntu-motu === truz24 [n=truz24@12-203-70-118.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bpuccio [n=brian@ool-457a9c38.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hub [n=hub@toronto-hs-216-138-231-194.s-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:30] LaserJock: hey dude [04:33] hi everyone... needed a hand with packaging a kernel module. im trying to get the rules file right atm. before running make clean, i need to set the KERNELPATH environment variable to the path of the kernel headers. i tried doing a "export KERNELPATH=$(KSRC)" but $(KSRC) is empty! does anyone here know what var i should be using? [04:34] Unfrgiven: hi, got your email. thanks [04:35] LaserJock: i got yours to ubuntu-devel. so doc freeze is in force now? [04:35] Unfrgiven: Is it set somewhere? A kernel source path is just going to be there I wouldn't think? [04:37] bddebian: well i can't see where it is being set but the rules file that dh_make generated refers to $(KSRC) all over the place. so I assumed it was being set. do i just need to hardcode it? [04:39] Hmm, is kernel-headers a build-dep? Maybe it sets it? [04:40] bddebian: i set the dep to linux-headers-2.6.15-20 in control. now there is a control.modules.in which i gather is supposed to generate a control file, but i dont know how to get it to generate the file. [04:40] bddebian: correction, i set the build-dep to linux-headers-2.6.15-20 [04:41] Unfrgiven: I'm just grasping at straws, I don't really know :-( [04:41] Unfrgiven: it is, but I can make small changes ok [04:42] bddebian: i dont want to bug the team in ubuntu-devel, im sure they're busy enough. do you know anyone else that might know? [04:42] Unfrgiven: If you do "echo $KSRC" do you get anything? [04:42] LaserJock: cool! [04:42] bddebian: nup, tried it [04:42] bddebian: i actually put a bunch of echos in the rules file itself. the value is empty [04:43] Is this fixing an existing package or a totally new package? [04:44] bddebian: totally new [04:46] KSRC=/lib/modules/`uname -r`/build ? [04:47] That's not right [04:48] bddebian: no, its more likely to be KSRC=/usr/src/linux-headers-$VERSION [04:48] though it does look like you either need to call it like: "debian/rules build KSRC=/foo/bar" or maybe statically define it in the urles file [04:49] bddebian: but im using dpkg-buildpackage to build the source package. so maybe i have to pass in the parameter to dpkg-buildpackage? [04:50] I would think that or statically define it in rules. [04:53] bddebian: it looks like thats the way to do it. === _jason [n=jasonr@dhcp0534.hrn.resnet.group.UPENN.EDU] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:58] Unfrgiven: Excellent [05:05] ajmitch: You around? [05:10] maybe [05:17] ajmitch: Never mind I think I figured it out. I was looking at firestarter [05:22] OK [05:24] Though I'm sure it's WRONG ;-P [05:28] Damnit, why is this dpatch not applying :-( [05:30] ajmitch: When doing dpatch-edit-patch, do I need to run debian/rules patch before patching? [05:30] doesn't dpatch-edit-patch apply the patch before you start editing [05:32] I thought so but firestarter.desktop.in didn't have the 01_patch.dpatch applied which is why I think mine is failing :-( [05:36] bddebian: what's in debian/patches/00list ? [05:38] ajmitch: Patches :-) [05:39] ajmitch: Sorry, couldn't resist. You want to know the contents of the file? [05:39] yes === Mongoose [n=mongoose@ip68-106-216-206.oc.oc.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:40] 01_use_gksu [05:40] 03_xpm_icon [05:40] 05_remove_INSTALL_from_README [05:40] 06_dot_not_hyphen [05:40] 09_fix_ip_up [05:40] 10_dhcp_hook [05:40] 11_desktop_file [05:40] uh [05:40] 11_desktop_file is the one I just made [05:41] right [05:41] and what is failing? [05:41] Mine 11_desktop.. [05:42] applying patch 11_desktop_file to ./ ... failed. [05:42] so check why it's failing :) [05:43] if the others are being applied before that, they should show up [05:45] Oh, fixed it, that was dump [05:45] Err dumb even [05:45] and you can play around with stuff like 'dpatch apply-all --verbose' [05:45] ok [05:45] what did you break? [05:46] bddebian: When I have that trouble, I usually discover that another path is modifying the file I wish to change. In this case it is 01_use_gksu.dpatch. [05:46] As I said, the previous patches weren't applied.. As persia just pointed out :_) === havoc [n=havoc@CPE-24-167-241-63.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:48] evening people [05:48] long time, no see [05:48] hi [05:48] ajmitch: hiya :) [05:48] Hello havoc [05:49] so, chillywilly may get his way; I think I'm going ubuntu all the way [05:49] w000t :-) [05:49] at least on the non-in-production-already machines [05:49] those will have to get switched later [05:50] so what's the latest? [05:54] im sleepy [05:55] word === firehare [n=firehare@60.181.146.69] has joined #ubuntu-motu === firehare [n=firehare@60.181.146.69] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:06] bddebian: If you are in a .desktop uploading mood, I'd be more than happy to point you to more patches. #38669 being one of the latest. === minghua [n=minghua@69-153-139-36.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:11] hi minghua [06:12] hi LaserJock [06:15] persia: That's all I have been doing lately :-) === No1Viking [n=Viking@h-83-140-104-3.ip.cust.port80.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:15] Hello minghua [06:16] hi bddebian [06:17] so release date is coming up? [06:20] ok, so what exactly is edubuntu? [06:21] bddebian: Well then: #32380, #32756, #38669, #36367, #33558, #33562 are all mostly ready to go, if you'd be willing :) Any feedback would be welcome. [06:21] persia: OK, I won't be able to get to them tonight but I'll check them out. Thanks! [06:22] seems to be targeted at kids/schools [06:22] Ah, right. My apologies: I forget about timezones. [06:23] havoc: well, I think most any educational setting. I think Edubuntu Dapper+1 will have more university level apps as well [06:24] persia: No worries :-) [06:24] LaserJock: I'm just curious [06:24] not going to actually run it [06:24] me too ;-) [06:24] so what's the actual dapper release date? [06:25] June 1st I think [06:25] chillywilly: catch that? [06:25] I've been checking out the sites and couldn't find mention of it anywhere [06:25] June?!? [06:26] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseSchedule [06:26] doesn't that break the 6 month release cycle? [06:26] yeah [06:26] bah... [06:26] it was pushed by 6 weeks [06:26] that was a while ago [06:27] might as well go with debian then ;) j/k!!! === bddebian kicks chillywilly :-) === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:37] hey everyone [06:37] Brokeback Mountain is now on DVD [06:39] hi Gloubiboulga [06:39] hi LaserJock [06:39] chillywilly, it does break the 6mth release, but dapper is going to have a 5yr support life rather than 18month support life. it needs to be really polished and uptodate [06:41] excuses.... ;) I need my 6 month ubuntu crack fix ;) [06:43] I do wish it wasn't needed, the solid 6 month release schedule seems to be a major selling point [06:44] I personally don't care [06:46] chillywilly: Wow, thanks I'll rush out and buy that one.. ;-P [06:47] bddebian: you know you will :) [06:47] he [06:47] h [06:48] man I am struggling to keep my eyes open [06:49] Yeah I gotta get to bed myself [06:49] yea the wife needs some lovin' ;) [06:49] GIT-R-DONE [06:49] Heh, I wish. Mine's been asleep for a few hours already :-) [06:49] mine too [06:50] they don't like to be woken with something stabbing them in the back now do they? [06:50] ok, I am just getting bad... [06:50] hehe [06:50] I was going to say worse but I already say too much in these channels :-) [06:51] haha [06:52] chillywilly is a "poker" ;) [06:52] hahahaha [06:53] yup, bedtime [06:53] peace === chillywilly props his eye lids open with tooth picks [06:56] heh [06:56] that tends to work well! [06:56] why not just sleep now? [06:58] heh [06:58] ajmitch: hey dude === _jason [n=jasonr@dhcp0534.hrn.resnet.group.UPENN.EDU] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:58] hi Unfrgiven [06:59] ajmitch: how r u [06:59] good, how are you? [06:59] ajmitch: good good [06:59] been busy? [07:00] ajmitch: not as much lately. hence im trying to get back into motu work [07:00] ah right [07:00] ajmitch: been working with laserjock on the packaging guide [07:00] bddebian: firestarter uses gksu now? [07:00] Unfrgiven: great to hear :) [07:01] ajmitch: say you wouldnt happen to have any experience with building packages for kernel modules would you? [07:01] nope [07:01] never had the need === Hobbsee waves to ajmitch [07:03] ajmitch: bummer. ive been working on building packages for the madwifi-ng drivers. for two reasons. 1. To learn more about advanced packaging and 2. the madwifi driver in linux-restricted-modules is broken. it has a huge memory leak and brings down your machine as soon as you start copying files. [07:03] hi Hobbsee [07:03] ajmitch: the madwifi-ng drivers resolve this. they're the next generation of madwifi drivers. [07:03] and the madwifi-ng drivers have several other problems, afaik [07:03] they were considered for dapper [07:04] ajmitch: yes, shouldn't it? [07:04] ajmitch: ive got it to the stage where the modules are built and installable for 386. but im trying to find out a way to build packages for other platforms in one hit. [07:04] bddebian: "gksu is a frontend to su and gksudo is a frontend to sudo" [07:04] ajmitch: oh really? well they resolve the problems on my machine. so im just making packages for personal use (and for anyone else that wants to use them). [07:04] bddebian: so is gksu what you really wanted? [07:04] ajmitch: There were two bugs filed requesting it.. [07:05] OK, I REALLY have to go to bed now [07:05] ajmitch: If it's wrong, please let me know [07:05] Gnight folks [07:06] night [07:07] ajmitch:! [07:07] yes? [07:07] hi [07:07] ajmitch: have u had any experience with build platform specific packages then? [07:08] don't act like you don't know me [07:08] Unfrgiven: not sure what you mean [07:08] we've been through too much to be acting like this [07:08] chillywilly: hello [07:08] hehe [07:08] ajmitch: what i mean is packages that are different for i386 vs amd64. different build-depends, etc. [07:08] ajmitch: just to warn you I've had little sleep and am feeling a bit loopy :) [07:09] lock up you wife and daughter, chillywilly is on the loose [07:10] Unfrgiven: right, that is possible, but I haven't needed to do it === persia [n=persia@p1119-ipbf510marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === robotgeek [i=venkat@ubuntu/member/robotgeek] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Tu13es_ [n=Tu13es@student4-611.unh.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:15] ajmitch: sorry id like to bug you with another question :) some packages have *.in files that are used to generate other files. e.g. control.in might be used to generate control - do you know regenerate the target file once i make a change to a *.in file? [07:15] debian/rules does [07:15] well [07:15] it should only do it in targets not run at build time [07:16] you are the packaging God [07:16] all bow to ajmitch === robotgeek bows [07:16] chillywilly: your comments are not helping === chillywilly lays prostrate in admiration === ajmitch is leaving [07:17] nooooo [07:17] ajmitch: ok thanks. ill take a look! [07:17] can anyone tell me why freenx not in dapper? [07:17] is it FOSS? [07:18] I thought so, but perhaps not [07:18] I think it was FOSS'd *very* recently, which would mean that it missed UVF [07:18] gpled, http://freenx.berlios.de/ [07:18] i think the server was gpled since a long time, even before the freeze [07:19] Seveas has a few debs built, and i was able to build it on ppc too. [07:21] Hmm, there's no dates for initial release. robotgeek, I'd say the reason it's not in Dapper is because (a) it's not in Debian (and there's also no noise in WNPP), and (b) Nobody has packaged in specifically for Ubuntu. [07:21] robotgeek: I found Seveas's packages very buggy. not sure if it was a problem in freenx or the packaging itself. my problem was that I could never resume an existing session. on resume, the client would only display a black screen. if i killed the client my session would be killed too. [07:21] heh, I could never even connect, ever :( [07:21] Unfrgiven: apart from the session resume, everything works fine for me [07:22] robotgeek: well the session resume is quite a vital feature of freenx. perhaps not to you but to many potential users. we can't exactly ship something so broken. [07:22] Unfrgiven: true [07:23] vnc4 is uninstallable so... [07:23] robotgeek: is it perhaps just a case where seveas needs to update his/her repository with a newer (hopefully less buggy) codebase? === jmg [n=cartel@shinobi.thoughtcrime.org.nz] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:24] hey all [07:24] :) [07:24] Unfrgiven: i'll ping Seveas (this must do it) [07:24] Currently I'm using a tightvncserver which starts a session on startup. it does the job for me. yes its laggy but its better than nothing [07:24] anyone got a link to the .config used for linux-image? [07:25] jmg: check out /boot/config- [07:25] Unfrgiven: thanks [07:25] jmg: np [07:25] robotgeek: yeah good idea. [07:26] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDownUnder/BOFs/FasterNetworkedX Unfrgiven :) [07:26] wiki has everything :) [07:28] robotgeek: im not sure what im looking for here? although im intrigued by this so called Xdamage for vnc [07:29] Unfrgiven: if it did not make it in, it probably is because of poor code quality :) [07:30] robotgeek: that was for breezy. i think i actually attended that Bof too! i would think that things would've changed for the better by now. but i guess maybe not [07:44] whoa [07:44] hi Unfrgiven!! === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:56] whiprush: woah! hey! :) [08:01] long time [08:01] how are things? [08:02] yeah its been a while [08:02] things are good. how r u? [08:02] good good. [08:03] im always reading ur blogs on planet ubuntu. its been a while since u had a "whats new in dapper post" [08:03] yeah, i need to do that. [08:03] my blog has been busted on planet lately though [08:03] yeah i noticed that too. i thought maybe u write xml for fun these days? ;) [08:04] heh no, I need to ping jeff about it [08:04] works on other planets but ubuntu [08:04] *shrug* === FliesLikeABrick [n=Ryan@about/rpi/rawdor] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:05] whiprush: seems like dapper has more visibility atm than any previous ubuntu release! [08:05] yeah, it's really shaping up. [08:05] seems like the community continues to double in size. [08:06] gotta say cheers to matthew garrett for putting xgl + compiz into flight4.... that move alone has grown our userbase by tons [08:06] yeah, there are seperate repos and stuff by community people too [08:06] in fact, i just listened to the novell podcast. [08:06] the guy was interviewing the XGL guy [08:07] david r? [08:07] and one of his comments was "wow, the ubuntu guys really jumped onto this." [08:07] yep [08:07] google for "novell open audio" [08:07] first link [08:07] it's a good interview btw... [08:08] given the fact that there is so much interest for community repos atm, should we use this as a way to push the notion of bzr repos in launchpad? [08:08] its really a good oppurtunity to get some much needed visibility there [08:09] it sounds nice [08:09] but even on the forums, there are like 4 xgl repos. [08:09] kinda messy [08:10] wish they would have been working with something more motu friendly. [08:14] such as? [08:14] well, there are a bunch of repos that are external. === carthik_away [n=carthik@user-0cej755.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:24] whiprush: where can i find out more about these external repos? perhaps we can get some of these other repos to use ours? [08:24] Unfrgiven: look in the sticky threads on the dapper forum on ubuntu forums... [08:28] whiprush: i thought u meant we offer external repos... what i was asking is how can we get them to make their packages more MOTU friendly? perhaps we can talk to em [08:30] Unfrgiven: sec, chatting with family... [08:30] whiprush: np === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:42] heya MOTUs === Meyer [i=mariomey@ubuntu/member/mariomeyer] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Meyer_ [i=mariomey@ubuntu/member/mariomeyer] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ajmitch_ [n=ajmitch@69.60.114.100] has joined #ubuntu-motu === G0SUB_ [i=ghoseb@ubuntu-in.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.36] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@59.92.62.189] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:12] a belated hi, Toadstool! from a non-motu who is half-awake. [09:12] hi carthik ;) [09:12] :) === carthik hates hanging heyas === Meyer [i=mariomey@ubuntu/member/mariomeyer] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rot3ros3 [n=ai@p54BFE0E3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === doko [n=doko@dslb-088-073-091-060.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === MagnusR [n=magru@c83-250-59-127.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pef [n=loic@ubuntu/member/pef] has joined #ubuntu-motu === herman_ [n=herman@flits101-191.flits.rug.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:43] Unfrgiven, that is a problem with freenx itself [10:43] Unfrgiven, it's supposedly solved in 0.5.0 betas but they only work on Dapper === erez [n=erez@85-250-45-47.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jpatrick [n=patrick@ubuntu/member/jpatrick] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === phanatic [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:38] hi people === perli [n=thomas@L0002P28.dipool.highway.telekom.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:40] hello! i've uploaded a revised package of gpodder to ubuntu's REVU - maybe someone has time to look into it? http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2250 [11:49] siretart: ping? [11:52] perli: i'm building it right now === armine [n=armine@AAubervilliers-152-1-6-147.w82-121.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:52] Hi everybody ! [11:52] hi armine [11:53] fine ? [11:56] Hobbsee: pong [11:56] siretart: i hear you're good on libraries - got time for a newbie packager's question? [11:57] [19:46] libmysqlclient15's been replaced by libmysqlclient15off, and some packages, including amarok, are still calling for libmysqlclient15 [11:57] [19:46] in the shdepends, it seems === Natja [n=Natja@129-47.240.81.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zakame [n=zakame@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:57] hi all [11:58] Hobbsee: err, what do you mean with 'calling'? [11:58] needing it to be installed/depending on it [11:58] those need to be transitioned [11:58] Hobbsee: if they use the shlibs mechanism, the package just needs to be rebuilt. shlibs will calculate the proper binary package dependency for you [11:59] hi zakame [12:00] shlibs is mentioned in the control file - i'm not sure if thats' what you mean or not. libmysqlclient15-dev is a build dep, and i'm presuming it's trying to install libmysqlclient15 as a shlibs depend. trouble is, there's no libmysqlclient15off-dev to change it to, so it all works nicely === Hobbsee always seems to get confused with this sort of stuff! [12:00] hello phanatic === zerokarmaleft [n=zerokarm@ip68-12-45-133.ok.ok.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:01] siretart: if you're meaning using dh_makeshlibs, it errors out with http://pastebin.com/647584 [12:06] Hobbsee: dh_makeshlibs creates you an shlibs file. you need it only in packages which create shared libs [12:07] ah...right... [12:07] Hobbsee: I think amarok does not state an explicit build dependency on libmysqlclient15, but has a field ${shlibs:Depends} [12:07] Hobbsee: in this case, a mere rebuild should 'fix' it [12:08] perli: are you here? [12:08] if it does state an explicit dependency on libmysqlclient15, then I think that should be fixed [12:08] siretart: it has a build dep on libmysqlclient15-dev - according to the control file [12:08] siretart: should be fixed - yes, but how? :P [12:08] this is where my problem is! [12:10] Hobbsee: err, are you sure the build-dep has changed? I understand that only the binary dependency needs to be fixed, because mysql-dfsg-5.0 no longer provides libmysqlclient15, butlibmysqlclient15off [12:11] Hobbsee: libmysqlclient15-dev hasn't changed [12:11] Hobbsee: so the package just needs rebuilding and it'll magically pick up the new library [12:12] right.... [12:12] phanatic: yes === Hobbsee tries to get this figured out in her head [12:12] yeah, ok, that makes sense enough [12:12] sorry for bothering you [12:13] perli: i'm not a motu, but i had a look at your package. may i /msg you with my comments? [12:13] phanatic: yes, that'd be nice [12:14] Hobbsee: libmysql had a binary incompatible name (mysql changed the name of a variable in it) so the library has to be given a new version "number" and everything that links to it has to be rebuilt [12:15] Riddell: ah ok, yep [12:16] Hobbsee: but the developer package needed for compiling is the same since its still the same library === Hobbsee nods [12:17] there's a new version of amarok out soon so I'll make sure that gets built against the new libmysql [12:17] Riddell: oh ok, cool - the 1.4 beta3 or something? [12:17] or the 1.3.9* [12:18] yes, beta 3 [12:18] 1.3.9 should already be rebuilt in ubuntu's dapper archive === bpuccio [n=brian@ool-457a9c38.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:20] Riddell: okay, and the beta2 in your repo - just wait for beta3? [12:21] Hobbsee: yes [12:36] lets see if submitting bugs via email interface with many attachments works === ohoel [n=beshy@214.84-48-169.nextgentel.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === herzi [n=herzi@d015172.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:56] Seveas: ping [01:12]