[12:00] <linrunix> sheng, i suggest grub
[12:00] <sheng> to start with sata drive #2, and then it will give an option to boot into hard drive 1, which has xp?
[12:00] <sheng> i have xp pro on sata disk one
[12:00] <sethk> sheng, the installation program configures it for you during install, if the other O/S is present at installation time
[12:00] <sheng> and ubuntu on sata disk 2
[12:00] <duelboot> I need to...pkg not compiling correctly...want to see the error sethk?
[12:00] <sheng> it wasn't present
[12:00] <sethk> duelboot, ok, but that isn't the right way to fix it
[12:00] <sheng> i did the install on a clean disk
[12:00] <sheng> and unplugged xp
[12:00] <duelboot> what is?  tried export see above
[12:00] <sethk> sheng, ok, you can add it without a problem
[12:00] <sheng> the disk with xp on it
[12:01] <tomski> hi all. I'm setting up ubuntu on my inspiron 9100 for the first time. I'm having a big prob with the setup where it asks to create a non-root user. after putting in both passwords it just restarts the new user prompts and ignores what i put in. any advice???
[12:01] <sethk> duelboot, usually when it is looking for a particular gcc version, you should install that gcc version
[12:01] <duelboot> I have it installed
[12:01] <duelboot> both 3.4 and 4.0
[12:01] <sethk> duelboot, oh, you want it to find 3.4 by default, then
[12:01] <linrunix> wich version brings latex???????????????
[12:01] <duelboot> okay, how?
[12:01] <zokzok> how can i go in a german chat ?
[12:02] <sheng> so i can make an edit on hard disk two, and it wont affect xp hdd at all, correct? i want ot be able to plug in the xp disk by itself if i need, and just have it boot up
[12:02] <duelboot> !ge
[12:02] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, duelboot
[12:02] <glyph> solved uninstall gdm and then reinstall it
[12:02] <sethk> duelboot, "type gcc" will tell you the path it uses for gcc
[12:02] <duelboot> hmmm
[12:02] <sethk> duelboot, then you make that path a link to the gcc executable for 3.4
[12:02] <kingspawn> emacs might be the best program ever created
[12:02] <duelboot> /usr/bin/gcc   sethk
[12:02] <zokzok> #join eichel
[12:02] <anto9us> kingspawn, ssh gets my vote
[12:02] <jorge_> alguin que hable espaol?
[12:02] <duelboot> ok like this?  ln -s gcc-3.4 CC
[12:03] <bimberi> !de
[12:03] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de
[12:03] <ryanpg> anyone know of any repos for current CVS of Xgl?
[12:03] <kingspawn> anto9us: yeah, ssh is great. but emacs is... emacs is just insane.
[12:03] <sethk> duelboot, ok, so you would do something like this:   mv /usr/bin/gcc /usr/bin/original.gcc; ln -s /wherever/gcc-3.4 /usr/bin/gcc
[12:03] <bkn> Hi anyone running ubuntu on a G4 powerbook?
[12:03] <sethk> duelboot, it may not be exactly gcc-3.4, but you know what I mean
[12:03] <tomski> had anyone heard of the installer not being able to create a new user? maybe something about it not being able to write to the hd?
[12:03] <zokzok> #ubuntu-de
[12:03] <duelboot> yes, but my head is hurting sethk :)
[12:03] <anto9us> kingspawn, I've never really played with it, not placed to judge
[12:03] <arrick> I hope this works
[12:04] <sethk> duelboot, do you know the name of the gcc 3.4 executable?  It may just be gcc in a directory with 3.4 in the name
[12:04] <MemeticVirus> wow the ubuntu forums are basicaly not used by anyone...
[12:04] <duelboot> I was able to get the symbolic link before without mv anything...
[12:04] <sethk> duelboot, you don't have to mv
[12:04] <arrick> duelboot, i have a SIIG pci duel ide adapter, that i just threw in my server, and I am hoping it workd ok
[12:04] <sethk> duelboot, I just suggested that to preserve your current configuration
[12:04] <kingspawn> anto9us: hehe, i started using it about 14 days ago, and there are so many features to it its just stupid. you can irc from it, read news, play games, it is the greatest text/code-editor i've ever seen, and its got everything :)
[12:04] <jorge_> alguien que hable espaol que me pueda alludar??
[12:04] <newbuntu> howdy neighbours
[12:04] <sheng> how do you play midi files? i dled one, double clicked it, and it wont launch anything
[12:04] <bimberi> !es
[12:04] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:04] <sethk> duelboot, you can instead make the link for gcc somewhere in your path earlier than /usr/bin
[12:04] <duelboot> sethk, don't care about current...if it screws up , i can reinstall :)
[12:04] <arrick> it makes it where i can have a total of 8 hdd in y server without using the new server, then i can raid it
[12:04] <sethk> duelboot, and then not move anything
[12:05] <obscurite> anyone have a raid1 with a swap on it? my mdadm raid1 is just one big partition right now and i want to split it up, so i can have a swap partitoin in raid1
[12:05] <duelboot> okay sethk, i will try
[12:05] <sethk> duelboot, or you can even do this:  export PATH=.:$PATH
[12:05] <sethk> duelboot, which puts the current directory at the front of the execution search path
[12:05] <MemeticVirus> nope that's not the case... something is wrong with the little icons that indicate usage. bleh
[12:05] <sethk> duelboot, then make a link named gcc in the current directory
[12:05] <Mitja> Is it possible to wire up a Yahoo mail server to a linux machine somehow to receive mails directly on the machine even though free Yahoo service doesn't allow forwarding?
[12:06] <arrick> how do I tell if my hdd's have all ounted, and if the system is seeing them from terminal?
[12:06] <newbuntu> I was installing something using adept, and then it froze the system so I xkilled adept and then suddenly radom programs disappeared , like apollon, kde-multi-media, kcontrol and lots of others, i'm not sure what to do now
[12:06] <duelboot> sethk, okay thx...give me 10 min...my head's hurting...need another beer :)
[12:06] <sethk> arrick, mount (no arguments) will tell you what is mounted
[12:06] <obscurite> arrick -  type mount
[12:06] <sheng> no decoders to play mp3s found? what's up wiht that?
[12:06] <anto9us> kingspawn, yeah, but i bet you have to remember how to do them all, rather than being presented with options. I think I've learned to love the gui, maybe I'm getting old or something
[12:06] <sethk> arrick, you can find out about the hardware using a utility or looking in the /sys directory
[12:06] <anto9us> !tell sheng about restricted formats
[12:06] <duelboot> sheng, need to install decoder
[12:06] <sheng> what decoder
[12:07] <duelboot> believe it's win32codes sheng
[12:07] <duelboot> hold one
[12:07] <sheng> ok
[12:07] <obscurite> anyone have their /tmp in raid1?
[12:07] <sheng> i just need to play mp3s, mids, and avis/mpegs
[12:07] <sheng> the standard stuff
[12:07] <kingspawn> anto9us: hm, there is a lot of stuff to remember, but you can redefine EVERYTHING, if that's your fancy. and text-editing or programming is so insanely fast when you've got 4-5 hotkeys memorized
[12:07] <anto9us> obscurite, mine's in raid0
[12:07] <arrick> thanks
[12:07] <kingspawn> !restrictedformats
[12:07] <ubotu> from memory, restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[12:07] <obscurite> ant09us - hw or sw raid?
[12:07] <newbuntu> has anypne else had weird dissapearences of software after an apt-get session stalls?
[12:07] <kingspawn> sheng, read what ubotu said now
[12:08] <sheng> i will read it. thanks
[12:08] <duelboot> it's w32codes sheng
[12:08] <Inazad> kingspawn: Hi re
[12:08] <obscurite> anto9us - hw or sw raid?
[12:08] <sheng> well, whatever it is, i need to play these
[12:08] <Inazad> kingspawn: are u there?
[12:08] <arrick> hey sethk can you join #arrick for a sec?
[12:08] <kingspawn> Inazad: ya
[12:08] <sethk> arrick, ok
[12:08] <kingspawn> this channel is so insanely friendly its almost too much
[12:08] <Inazad> kingspawn: Yesterday, I do a modification for the login...
[12:08] <newbuntu> hi kingspawn
[12:08] <anto9us> obscurite, supposed to be hardware but it didn't work, I think it was pretending, linux sw raid
[12:08] <kingspawn> newbuntu: good evening
[12:09] <MarioNunes> hi
[12:09] <Inazad> kingspawn: I think I have marked automaticly loggin with my username
[12:09] <MarioNunes> good evening
[12:09] <obscurite> anto9us - can you msg me your /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf?
[12:09] <Inazad> kingspawn: then, I cannot login with the .log-in. screen
[12:09] <kingspawn> Inazad: tell me, can you boot ubuntu at all?
[12:09] <kingspawn> Inazad: im not entirely sure what you are saying
[12:09] <newbuntu> is it possible to reinstall kbuntu without wiping out all your software and settings? I cant tell what all programs were deleted by the failed apt-get session
[12:09] <Inazad> kingspawn: It said: FATAL : Module ext2 not found.
[12:10] <anto9us> obscurite, http://pastebin.com/646947
[12:10] <newbuntu> I know it was abunch of KDE stuff though
[12:10] <Inazad> kingspawn: When the loading are finish, i cannot login I just see the background and my mouse...
[12:10] <nat> hi everyone
[12:10] <obscurite> antu9us - thanks
[12:10] <kingspawn> newbuntu: ubuntu you _might_ try apt-get -f install
[12:10] <kingspawn> newbuntu: no guarantees, just a theory
[12:10] <hyphenated> has anyone burned a CD iso to a DVD? does it work? :-)
[12:10] <Inazad> kingspawn: when I'm going in a shell, i see : FATAL: Module ext2 not founded
[12:10] <newbuntu> that unjams apt-get but as for the programs that vanished?
[12:10] <kingspawn> Inazad: then you press CTRL-ALT-F1
[12:10] <hyphenated> I only have blank DVD-RWs lying around the house
[12:11] <anto9us> obscurite, I have another raid0 set up across the 2 of the devices also
[12:11] <newbuntu> even their icons dissappeared
[12:11] <kingspawn> Inazad: hm, you might really hve a very bad partition on your hands
[12:11] <kingspawn> Inazad: try reinstalling
[12:11] <ruggy> anyone here use a cellular internet connection?
[12:11] <sheng> damn it
[12:11] <obscurite> anto9us - my raid1 is one bug partition (no swap) and i need to figure out how to get swap
[12:11] <sheng> firefox wont start now
[12:11] <Inazad> kingspawn:  I'll not loose all of my windows ?
[12:11] <sheng> is there another browser built in?
[12:11] <kingspawn> ruggy: where are you, siberia?
[12:11] <anto9us> obscurite, don't put swap on raid, no need
[12:11] <kingspawn> Inazad: yes, surely
[12:11] <kingspawn> Inazad: if your harddisk is broken, you'll loose everything
[12:12] <Inazad> kingspawn: I will loose my windows?
[12:12] <obscurite> anto9us - my applications actually depend on /tmp not being lost
[12:12] <nat> does anyone know what kind of decoder you need to play dvd on ogle
[12:12] <kingspawn> Inazad: i just lost a 160gb disk the other day
[12:12] <kingspawn> Inazad: is it on the same disk?
[12:12] <Inazad> kingspawn: yes
[12:12] <obscurite> anto9us - if /tmp is lost, things go weird
[12:12] <aridese> how do i mount *.bin
[12:12] <anto9us> obscurite, /tmp isn't swap, unless you can tell me different
[12:12] <kingspawn> Inazad: well, the reinstall of ubuntu should not break it
[12:12] <obscurite> anto9us - hmm, good point
[12:12] <Inazad> kingspawn: but, its not supposed to crash... it works perfectly yesterday and I do nothing...
[12:12] <kingspawn> Inazad: be SURE to select ext3 as your filesystem, its a bit better with errors
[12:13] <devnull_> hello i am having an issue removing a package it fails with a diversion error
[12:13] <obscurite> anto9us - hmm, not sure hwere that thought was going
[12:13] <newbuntu> it always takes weeks to teak your ubuntu the way you want it, then everything goes amuck and you feel like starting all over again, I need to make myself a manual of all the java, realplayer, dvdnav , k3b-mp3 etc etc
[12:13] <kingspawn> Inazad: if your harddisk is broken, it will crash if you like it or not
[12:13] <Inazad> kingspawn: my bro choose ext2...
[12:13] <spikeb> weeks?
[12:13] <Inazad> kingspawn:  my hd it's not broken
[12:13] <spikeb> takes me a couple hours.
[12:13] <kingspawn> Inazad: well, choose ext3 next time
[12:13] <Inazad> kingspawn: what's the difference?
[12:13] <kingspawn> newbuntu: that manual is at help.ubuntu.com :)
[12:13] <kingspawn> Inazad: you dont need to know, just think that 3 is larger than 2
[12:14] <Inazad> kingspawn: :P
[12:14] <Inazad> kingspawn:  I'll reinstall
[12:14] <Inazad> kingspawn: you'll there this night?
[12:14] <kingspawn> Inazad: yes, and do a complete format
[12:14] <newbuntu> maybe its a stable /unstable conflict with debs i'm installing that makes things go bad
[12:14] <kingspawn> Inazad: not just a quick one
[12:14] <aridese> how do you mount *.bin
[12:14] <Inazad> ok
[12:14] <Inazad> bye
[12:14] <kingspawn> Inazad: i'll be here for... a couple of hours more
[12:14] <kingspawn> Inazad: meaning 4
[12:14] <ltR20> hey, new nvidia drivers came out today.
[12:14] <kingspawn> since i prefer to sit at home friday evenings coding assembler
[12:14] <sval> kingspawn, dont need ti reinstall to upgrade to ext3 ...
[12:14] <kingspawn> while my gf is out with her friends...
[12:14] <obscurite> anto9us - so i should make each disk have an auto raid partition and a swap partition and make my swap partition off of one of the two disks. what happens when the swap disk fails?
[12:15] <aridese> how do you mount *.bin
[12:15] <newbuntu> I gave up on my via onboard soundcard that kept failing to be recognized so I got a cheap soundblaster and it works great
[12:15] <kingspawn> sval: no, but he cant boot because of what seems to be a broken hd...
[12:15] <anto9us> obscurite, keep swap and raid seperate
[12:15] <aridese> how do you mount *.bin
[12:15] <Inazad> kingspawn: Where I can change the auto-login config file?
[12:15] <nat>  hi eveyone
[12:15] <sval> kingspawn, ok, my mistake :p
[12:16] <kingspawn> sval: its all good, since we seem to be in the hood
[12:16] <obscurite> anto9us - let's say /dev/sda1 has my swap partition. if it fails, will swpa automatically use /dev/sdb1 swap or do i need to console in with a rescue disk and change it to recover
[12:16] <newbuntu> thanks
[12:16] <Inazad> kingspawn: Where I can change the auto-login config file?
[12:16] <nat> does anyone know what kind of decoder you need to run dvd on ogle
[12:16] <kingspawn> Inazad: probably in ~/.gconf
[12:16] <kingspawn> Inazad: but i dont really know much about gui's
[12:17] <anto9us> obscurite, if the device fails your system may lock up or something, a mirror will make no difference to my mind
[12:17] <aridese> how do you mount *.bin
[12:17] <Inazad> kingspawn: what's GUI?
[12:17] <sval> Inazad, /etc/gdm/gdm.conf
[12:17] <Cloud_tm> Ahem
[12:17] <Cloud_tm> hello?
[12:17] <Cloud_tm> I need help
[12:17] <Inazad> sval: ok wait me
[12:17] <Cloud_tm> with sound
[12:17] <kingspawn> sval: excellent :)
[12:17] <sval> Inazad, or just use gdmsetup
[12:17] <Inazad> sval: ok
[12:18] <kingspawn> Inazad: GUI means "Graphical User Interface" - gnome is such an interface, or kde, or windows xp
[12:18] <Cloud_tm> In frozen bubble, the sound doesnt work
[12:18] <aridese> how do you mount *.bin
[12:18] <kingspawn> Inazad: means you can use your mouse to point and click on stuff
[12:18] <disasm> one annoying thing i don't think is possible, but might as well ask anyway... when I hibernate and have ssh sessions open is their anyway to a) have them reconnect when it wakes up again or b) (slightly more realistic option) kill the ssh session so I don't have 50 terminals locked up that I can't close without kill (I have my terminals not showing window decorations)
[12:18] <anto9us> obscurite, what I know is, you can spread your swap across devices but you don't put them in raid containers, I could be wrong in this but that's how I've always done it
[12:18] <Inazad> kingspawn:  My display cant run
[12:18] <kingspawn> disasm: write a scritp
[12:18] <sval> aridese, what do you mean by "mounting *.bin" ?
[12:18] <Inazad> kingspawn: Because My ext2 module was not founded
[12:18] <kingspawn> disasm: make that "script"
[12:18] <Inazad> kingspawn: Because My ext2 module was not found*
[12:18] <aridese> sval, i have a bin file and i want to read the content
[12:19] <kingspawn> Inazad: yes, well, thats why i am talking about a reinstall
[12:19] <disasm> kingspawn: I guess I could killall ssh in the hibernate script
[12:19] <Cloud_tm> Anybody?
[12:19] <sheng> damn it
[12:19] <Inazad> aridese: vi file.bin
[12:19] <sheng> that install didn't work
[12:19] <Inazad> kingspawn: ok
[12:19] <kingspawn> disasm: indeed a clever plan! better than what i had in mind :)
[12:19] <Inazad> kingspawn: but my hd works perfectly
[12:19] <TheCreature> Hello :)
[12:19] <aridese> Inazad, it has files in it
[12:19] <sval> aridese, bin file are binary file, you can read these files as simple ascii file
[12:19] <kingspawn> Inazad: well, i dont know, its kind of an intangible problem
[12:19] <Inazad> kingspawn: I will re install
[12:19] <aridese> sval, it's a disk image
[12:19] <kingspawn> and i _am_ enjoying my beer.
[12:19] <disasm> kingspawn: what did you have in mind?
[12:19] <Inazad> kingspawn: can I boot with the safe mode ?
[12:20] <Inazad> kingspawn: or it's change nothing
[12:20] <hyphenated> disasm: in those ssh sessions, hit enter, then type ~.
[12:20] <sheng> someone help me install firefox
[12:20] <obscurite> anto9us - okay, i think my problem was thinking that the mirror would help me if a device failed. now i realize i need to reboot after a device failure before recovering. it doesn't just switch over to the other disk in mid-failure.
[12:20] <kingspawn> disasm: some kind of crazy python script that goes through your ssh-pids at bootup, kills and goes all crazy
[12:20] <TheCreature> I have a message that says: "W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[12:20] <TheCreature> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)"
[12:20] <kingspawn> disasm: your plan is _that_ much better :)
[12:20] <sheng> i follewed the directions on that site, and now i can't even start it from the application menu
[12:20] <hyphenated> disasm: that should exit ssh smoothly
[12:20] <sheng> only 1.07 again from usr/bin
[12:20] <anto9us> obscurite, I think you're looking at a failover system for that
[12:20] <TheCreature> when I start Synaptic package manager. How do I fix it?
[12:20] <Inazad> kingspawn: Are u good with SSH ?
[12:20] <obscurite> anto9us - does such a thing even exist? :)
[12:20] <kingspawn> Inazad: define good.
[12:21] <samojord> hi there, i am very new to linux and ubuntu, but i would really appreciate some help. Right the problem...
[12:21] <samojord> I have just installed the breezy badger version of ubuntu and once it has installed,
[12:21] <samojord>  i login and everything works excellently. Once i reset my laptop ubuntu loads up up to the brown loader
[12:21] <samojord>  then when my loading icon on the mouse appears the whole system freezes, but i can still Ctrl+alt+del
[12:21] <samojord>  to reset it. i have tried installing this about 3 times and it has always been the same error everytime.
[12:21] <samojord>  Please can someone help me with this problem?????
[12:21] <samojord> hi there, i am very new to linux and ubuntu, but i would really appreciate some help. Right the problem...
[12:21] <samojord> I have just installed the breezy badger version of ubuntu and once it has installed,
[12:21] <samojord>  i login and everything works excellently. Once i reset my laptop ubuntu loads up up to the brown loader
[12:21] <aridese> how do i mount a *.bin disk image?
[12:21] <samojord>  then when my loading icon on the mouse appears the whole system freezes, but i can still Ctrl+alt+del
[12:21] <samojord>  to reset it. i have tried installing this about 3 times and it has always been the same error everytime.
[12:21] <ltR20> when will the new NVIDIA Drivers be availible to download ?
[12:21] <samojord>  Please can someone help me with this problem?????
[12:21] <Inazad> kingspawn: to resolve my prob ! ;)
[12:21] <fiendskull9> .join #gentoo
[12:21] <anto9us> obscurite, yes, a second machine mirroring and possibly even contributing to the load of the first one
[12:21] <kingspawn> Inazad: i really dont get it. how can your ssh-server run if your disk refuses to mount?
[12:21] <aridese> how do i mount a *.bin disk image?
[12:21] <kingspawn> brb, toilet
[12:21] <obscurite> anto9us - ahh, right
[12:21] <Inazad> kingspawn: oops
[12:21] <Inazad> kingspawn:  i'll re install
[12:21] <Inazad> y<
[12:21] <IamEthos> does anyone know of something like KSmoothDock for Gnome?
[12:21] <Inazad> bye
[12:22] <aridese> how do i mount a *.bin disk image?
[12:22] <IamEthos> (or if KSmoothDock will run on Gnome?)
[12:22] <fiendskull9> IamEthos, like osx style dock?
[12:22] <obscurite> anto9us - now i need to figure out how to set up the swap. i guess just having a swap partition on each drive will do the trick...
[12:22] <IamEthos> fiendskull9, it's like that, but it's actually a panel
[12:22] <joshisscifi> Hey everybody
[12:22] <IamEthos> that just magnifies icons on mouseovers
[12:22] <disasm> kingspawn: that did the trick, thanks for the idea :-D
[12:22] <fiendskull9> IamEthos, well, u could try Gdesklets, and get the Launcher thing
[12:23] <aridese> how do i mount a *.bin disk image?
[12:23] <kingspawn> disasm: great!
[12:23] <anto9us> obscurite, that's what I do, just set several swaps on each device, outside the raid partitions
[12:23] <Inazad> kingspawn: On my /etc/gdm/gdm.conf file, where it's written AutomaticLogin, it's my user..
[12:23] <IamEthos> fiendskull9, I tried that, didn't really care for it
[12:23] <kingspawn> disasm: what's with the nick?
[12:23] <Inazad> kingspawn: AutomaticLogin=inazad
[12:23] <kingspawn> Inazad: delete the whole automaticlogin
[12:23] <joshisscifi> hopefully someone can help... I am trying to run 'sudo apt-get install build-essential checkinstall xlibs-dev', and it says the following:
[12:23] <kingspawn> Inazad: or google AutomaticLogin, to see if theres a value to negate it
[12:23] <TheCreature> When I start Synaptic Package Manager I get the following error message:
[12:23] <TheCreature> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[12:23] <TheCreature> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[12:23] <TheCreature> How do I fix it? 0.0
[12:23] <Inazad> kingspawn: I delete my name or I delete all the line ?
[12:24] <joshisscifi> The following packages have unmet dependencies: fluxbox: Depends: menu (>= 2.1.19) but it is not going to be installed
[12:24] <kingspawn> TheCreature: apt-get update
[12:24] <joshisscifi> libimlib2 but it is not going to be installed
[12:24] <kingspawn> TheCreature: (i hope)
[12:24] <obscurite> anto9us - thanks you really helped me understand things
[12:24] <kingspawn> Inazad: the whole line, i would think
[12:24] <Inazad> kingspawn: ok... wait me
[12:24] <kingspawn> Inazad: but i am just throwing out ballpark stuff here
[12:24] <kingspawn> heh
[12:24] <anto9us> obscurite, well, maybe you can return the favour some day :D
[12:24] <obscurite> anto9us - it'd be my pleasure
[12:25] <frozen_> hi$
[12:25] <Fnoy> hello
[12:25] <TheCreature> Thanks, kingspawn, I'll try that! ^_^
[12:25] <kingspawn> i am listening to old prodigy, realizing that it is really crap
[12:25] <Fnoy> i have a quastion
[12:25] <obscurite> anto9us - I suppose now I need to re-install and rebuild my raid. oh fun ;)
[12:25] <tomski> can someone please tell me how to set up a new user via command line
[12:25] <kingspawn> Fnoy: fire
[12:25] <Inazad> kingspawn: How I can save and wuit a file in command line?
[12:25] <aridese> how do i mount a *.bin disk image?
[12:25] <kingspawn> tomski: adduser <name>
[12:25] <aridese> how do i mount a *.bin disk image?
[12:25] <Inazad> kingspawn: (I'm noob)
[12:25] <arnon> what is the package name for ssh server ?
[12:25] <hyphenated> tomski: 'sudo adduser username'
[12:25] <Fnoy> im now in ubuntu live cd is it possible to install it right wher i am now
[12:25] <kingspawn> Inazad: depends on which editor you are using
[12:25] <sval> tomski, adduser
[12:25] <joshisscifi> brb
[12:25] <anto9us> obscurite, repartitioning gives you enought time to learn the errors of your ways I suppose :)
[12:25] <Inazad> kingspawn: vi editor
[12:25] <disasm> kingspawn: i got the nick in high school when friends would show me a cool z80 assembly program they wrote for TI-86 calculators, and around lunch time I'd come back with their code disassembled :-D
[12:26] <kingspawn> Inazad: use nano, at the bottom it lists which keys to press to save and such. ^ menas CTRL
[12:26] <kingspawn> s/menas/means
[12:26] <hyphenated> arnon: openssh-server
[12:26] <ltR20> how do i close x and go to a terminal
[12:26] <Inazad> kingspawn:  ok but now I cant leave the editor
[12:26] <ltR20> i wan't to install drivers
[12:26] <kingspawn> disasm: hahah, nice. i love disassembly, makes my day that much more fun
[12:26] <arnon> hyphenated, thank you
[12:26] <kingspawn> Inazad: yes, i am quite sure you can
[12:26] <kingspawn> Inazad: CTRL-x
[12:26] <Bambino> Excuse me, I am running KDE on UBUNTU on a laptop. Everything works except when i press FN and upper arrow. It should higher the volume on my sound. It does not =( nothing hppens. Anyone knows why?
[12:26] <kingspawn> Inazad: CTRL-o to save file
[12:26] <Fnoy> kingspwan what do you mean fire
[12:26] <hyphenated> Bambino: #kubuntu
[12:27] <sval> ltR20, ctrl-alt F1
[12:27] <jomura> Are there any chat in spanish?
[12:27] <leleobhz> have ffmpeg2theora package on ubuntu?
[12:27] <arnon> how do I tell ubuntu to look for package from internet source instead of cdrom ?
[12:27] <Bambino> jomura: #ubuntu-es
[12:27] <kingspawn> Fnoy: i mean: ask your question
[12:27] <jomura> thnaks
[12:27] <hyphenated> arnon: remove the cdrom line from /etc/apt/sources.list and run sudo apt-get update again
[12:28] <sval> arnon, just comment the first line in the /etc/apt/sources.list file
[12:28] <disasm> kingspawn: writing a multi-cycle cpu in vhdl, and we were given a set of instructions in the program memory to run, rather than just figuring out what the code block did, i wrote a simple c++ program taking the hex inputs, converting to binary, and then disassembles the binary into assembly
[12:28] <anto9us> Bambino, theres's a package somewhere that you need to install io set obscure functions like that, I'll see if I can find out what it's called
[12:28] <Fnoy> im right now in ubuntu live cd is it possible to install it wher i am right now
[12:28] <Inazad> kingspawn: how I can leave the ***** editor
[12:28] <tomski> i get the error "chown 1001:1001" when I try to do adduser. any ideas?
[12:28] <Bambino> anto9us: thanks! ;)
[12:28] <Zimx> Is anyone using MYSQL Administrator?
[12:28] <disasm> Inazad: im going to guess you mean vi esc :wq
[12:28] <Zimx> Or is there other good mysql-gui programs?
[12:29] <obscurite> disasm - so you wrote a disassembler for your cpu
[12:29] <kingspawn> disasm: thats my kind of man! heh. i am just getting into the elf-format, have you read a quick tutorial named "teensy elf"? its real cool, some guy picks apart the elf-header so bad its not even funny
[12:29] <kingspawn> Inazad: well, you leave NANO with CTRL-x
[12:29] <Inazad> kingspawn: wait me
[12:29] <kingspawn> Inazad: you leave Vi with :wq
[12:29] <anto9us> Bambino, it might be lineakd
[12:29] <slavik> anyone good with dot/dotty?
[12:29] <kingspawn> Inazad: you leave emacs with CTRL-x CTRL-c
[12:29] <thecrazymonk86> hey i just saw this when i started "Mounting local drives:   Failed"
[12:29] <Fnoy> wow what a feed back
[12:29] <thecrazymonk86> how do i fix that
[12:29] <kingspawn> thecrazymonk86: depends. what does your fstab contain on the drive that failed?
[12:30] <disasm> kingspawn: i'll look into it
[12:30] <Bambino> anto9us: is it called "lineakd" ?
[12:30] <kingspawn> Fnoy: i dont believe so. and cut the snappy-ness.
[12:30] <anto9us> Bambino, yes, it's in univers/x11
[12:30] <arnon> hyphenated, thank you
[12:30] <Fnoy> ogay
[12:30] <hyphenated> Bambino: you don't need that, but can install it if you want
[12:30] <kingspawn> disasm: www.ag0ny.net/~xpozed links to it
[12:30] <Inazad> ok
[12:31] <Se7h> ?---------  ? ?    ?            ?                ? /media/icy_more/Movies
[12:31] <kingspawn> disasm: sometimes im desperate for ... yeah, "your" kind of people in here
[12:31] <Inazad> kingspawn: I jst put a # before the two line
[12:31] <Se7h> that appears on a ls -l
[12:31] <sval> aridese, bin2iso software exists, dont think it's present in ubuntu but you may find it on internet
[12:31] <kingspawn> Inazad: thats alright too
[12:31] <Se7h> i cant access the dir
[12:31] <Inazad> kingspawn: How I can reboot
[12:31] <kingspawn> Inazad: shutdown -r now (but remember, this starts the reboot process immediately)
[12:31] <sval> Inazad, sudo reboot
[12:31] <thecrazymonk86> kingspawn, i dont know
[12:31] <Inazad> ok
[12:31] <Inazad> bye guys
[12:31] <kingspawn> Inazad: insert sudo before EVERYTHING i say
[12:32] <kingspawn> i cant remember that stuff
[12:32] <sfar> How can fix i start "system monitor" by pressing ctrl+alt+del ?
[12:32] <sfar> +so
[12:32] <sfar> +that
[12:32] <sfar> -beer
[12:32] <kingspawn> haha
[12:32] <kingspawn> sfar: beer!
[12:32] <sfar> :D
[12:32] <sfar> \o/
[12:32] <kingspawn> you shouldnt fix that, though
[12:32] <sfar> beer and linux 4 the win
[12:32] <kingspawn> since its win32-"syntax"
[12:32] <anto9us> hyphenated, he can configure it without that?
[12:32] <kingspawn> sfar: yeah
[12:33] <kingspawn> sfar: im drinking steadily
[12:33] <obscurite> anto9us - i removed a drive before and when i put it back in it rebuilt fine. now i tried the other drive after a reboot but it won't start rebuilding. any ideas on how to kickstart it?
[12:33] <sfar> kingspawn: yea but im used to it :)
[12:33] <hyphenated> anto9us: in KDE, yes
[12:33] <nat> does anyone know what kind of decoders you use to run dvds on ogle
[12:33] <kingspawn> sfar: then... get "unused" :)
[12:33] <aridese> what a fucking pain
[12:33] <newbuntu> does anyone here use bittornado? if so ... how do you point your browser to to the gui when you click on a torrent? I cant find the launcher for the life of me
[12:33] <hyphenated> anto9us: and probably in GNOME too. it's all about the keyboard layout he chooses
[12:33] <aridese> is there no way to load up disk images in ubuntu?
[12:33] <anto9us> hyphenated, I always assume gone here
[12:33] <sfar> bah, can i fix another keyboard shortct to it then? =)
[12:33] <aridese> instead of fucking around with converting images
[12:33] <aridese> and mountin them in command line
[12:33] <anto9us> s/gone/gnome
[12:34] <leleobhz> someone?
[12:34] <Inazad> kingspawn: Hi, I have reboot
[12:34] <gnomefreak> aridese: can you please watch your language
[12:34] <sfar> or even better... whats the terminal-command to start it?
[12:34] <aridese> are there no programs that will mount images for me?
[12:34] <nat> hi everyone
[12:34] <hyphenated> anto9us: well, he started off saying KDE on UBUNTU (he put the caps there, not me) and I said #kubuntu, but he missed the hint :-)
[12:34] <kingspawn> aridese: aridese: you mean mounting an image?
[12:34] <Inazad> kingspawn: I can log in but nothing after my login...
[12:34] <Inazad> kingspawn: just a brwon backgournd with my mouse
[12:34] <aridese> Kingspawn, yes
[12:34] <anto9us> obscurite, sounds like hardware raid is it?
[12:34] <kingspawn> aridese: mount img destination -o loop
[12:34] <nat> does anyone know what kind of decoders you need to run dvd from ogle
[12:34] <aridese> gnomefreak, are you an op?
[12:35] <kingspawn> Inazad: hm
[12:35] <obscurite> anto9us - nah, just mdadm
[12:35] <sfar> please dont say fuick, i get so ho... sorry.  i will shut up now
[12:35] <nickgarvey> !language
[12:35] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[12:35] <sval> aridese, *.bin image are binary WINDOWS image, so it's no conventional, you have to convert bin into iso file and mount in loopback
[12:35] <kingspawn> Inazad: well, i cant tell, my best advice is reinstall
[12:35] <robertj> how can I redirect users from a certian IP address to a different port?
[12:35] <devnull_> is there any way to get a single restricted module from linux-restricted-modules?
[12:35] <sval> aridese, use bin2iso.c and compile it
[12:35] <anto9us> obscurite, I've never really played with raid1, might be very different
[12:35] <nickgarvey> Inazad: try a different desktop
[12:35] <devnull_> i need the ati fglrx but am not using a ubuntu kernel
[12:35] <Inazad> kingspawn: ok but I'm not understanding why it crash too easily...  ?
[12:35] <kingspawn> robertj: might need to look into "route"
[12:35] <Inazad> nickgarvey: I'm with gnome
[12:35] <nickgarvey> Inazad: that happened with me so I tried xfce to see if that helped
[12:35] <kingspawn> robertj: by the way of "man route"
[12:35] <kingspawn> robertj: but really, read up on google :)
[12:36] <nickgarvey> Inazad: from the command line "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop"
[12:36] <kingspawn> robertj: prolly easier than the man-pages for such a task
[12:36] <Inazad> nickgarvey: ok wait me
[12:36] <nickgarvey> kingspawn: what language does he speak?
[12:36] <anto9us> obscurite, to my mind, raid1 is for very mission critical where a fail over is prohibitive for some reason
[12:36] <kingspawn> nickgarvey: you tell me. he keeps telling me module ext2 doesnt load, but he can obviously boot all the way into "almost-gnome", so i am confused
[12:36] <obscurite> anto9us - i just need to make sure data isn't lost because restoring the system is time-prohibitive
[12:37] <Inazad> nickgarvey:  its said that the operation xubuntu-destop was not available
[12:37] <nickgarvey> Inazad: ubuntu-desktop
[12:37] <Inazad> oosp
[12:37] <Inazad> nickgarvey: wait me plz
[12:37] <TheCreature> Ok, I ran apt-get update and I get the following error: (it's long): bzip2: Compressed file ends unexpectedly;
[12:37] <TheCreature>         perhaps it is corrupted?  *Possible* reason follows.
[12:37] <TheCreature> bzip2: Resource temporarily unavailable
[12:37] <TheCreature>         Input file = (stdin), output file = (stdout)
[12:37] <TheCreature> It is possible that the compressed file(s) have become corrupted.
[12:37] <TheCreature> You can use the -tvv option to test integrity of such files.
[12:37] <TheCreature> You can use the `bzip2recover' program to attempt to recover
[12:37] <TheCreature> data from undamaged sections of corrupted files.
[12:37] <anto9us> obscurite, just remember, it's only as good as your proven tests and then not always
[12:37] <nickgarvey> !tell TheCreature about pastebin
[12:37] <TheCreature> Err http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages
[12:37] <TheCreature>   Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages - open (2 No such file or directory)
[12:37] <TheCreature> Fetched 2335kB in 10m31s (3695B/s)
[12:37] <kingspawn> TheCreature: no no no
[12:37] <TheCreature> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages - open (2 No such file or directory)
[12:37] <nickgarvey> !tell TheCreature about paste
[12:37] <Inazad> nickgarvey: same error msg
[12:37] <kingspawn> TheCreature: you must not paste like that heere
[12:37] <TheCreature> Reading package lists... Done
[12:37] <TheCreature> W: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy Release: Unknown error executing gpgv
[12:37] <TheCreature> W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages)
[12:37] <obscurite> anto9us - one drive was removed and the array rebuilt. now i can't get md to recognize the other drive after removing it
[12:37] <TheCreature> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[12:37] <TheCreature> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[12:37] <Zimx> My MYsQL administrator closes when i try to edit an table..
[12:38] <kingspawn> TheCreature: you're sources.list is probably shot to kingdom cmoe
[12:38] <Inazad> kingspawn: I can't repair it only?
[12:38] <kingspawn> !sources
[12:38] <hyphenated> TheCreature: please stop pasting all of that stuff
[12:38] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[12:38] <duelboot> !pastebin
[12:38] <anto9us> TheCreature, don't paste here please
[12:38] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[12:38] <nickgarvey> Inazad: apt-get install
[12:38] <TheCreature> Sorry ^^
[12:38] <nat> hi
[12:38] <Inazad> nickgarvey: ok wait me plz
[12:38] <nickgarvey> Inazad: remember the word install
[12:38] <hyphenated> TheCreature: there are HUNDREDS of people in here. please paste a single URL to a pastebin, like other people do
[12:38] <nickgarvey> 672 to be exacty
[12:38] <Inazad> nickgarvey:  why?
[12:39] <kingspawn> hahha
[12:39] <hyphenated> TheCreature: people that care about your problem will load the link. really. they're nice like that
[12:39] <kingspawn> why indeed.
[12:39] <Inazad> nickgarvey: I have to update 80 packages...
[12:39] <nickgarvey> Inazad: what language do you speak?
[12:39] <Inazad> nickgarvey: french :S
[12:39] <anto9us> obscurite, yeah, I find recovery never as easy as promised in setup/backup
[12:39] <nickgarvey> !fr
[12:39] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:39] <TheCreature> Just 'cause there are hundreds of people here, doesn't mean that every single one of them has to tell me this.  One will do :p
[12:39] <Inazad> nickgarvey: what ?
[12:39] <obscurite> anto9us - booting the installer just to make sure the disk is actually connected ;)
[12:39] <nickgarvey> !tell Inazad about fr
[12:39] <hyphenated> TheCreature: well gee, we'll try to collaborate our annoyance in the future ;-)
[12:39] <Cooner750> Ubuntu wont let me empty the trash
[12:39] <nickgarvey> Cooner750: whats it say?
[12:40] <kingspawn> TheCreature: general irc practice: never paste more than 1 or 2 lines.
[12:40] <Inazad> nickgarvey: I dint understand what u're talking about?
[12:40] <Inazad> !fr
[12:40] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:40] <obscurite> Cooner750 - that's crazy. how can an OS stop you from keeping your house clean?
[12:40] <Inazad> #ubuntu-fr
[12:40] <kingspawn> Inazad: yes. /join #ubuntu-fr
[12:40] <anto9us> obscurite, if you have a terminal, lshw is useful
[12:40] <obscurite> anto9us - good point thanks
[12:40] <zerboxx> Hey, I got a new laptop and when I run the UbuntuLive CD it takes forever and a day to boot up, am I to expect this to happen if I fully install it?
[12:40] <robertj> ok, tougher one, is there a way to split up traffic destined for a local port into two different ports by ps #?
[12:40] <Cooner750> It says "Error while deleting". "/home/cono...speakers.P" cannot be deleted because you do not have permissions to modify it's parent folder"
[12:40] <nickgarvey> Inazad: type "/join #ubuntu-fr" in this window
[12:41] <hyphenated> zerboxx: no, you shouldn't expect that from the live CD either
[12:41] <mavric2001> zerboxx no cdrom drives have a slower speed
[12:41] <nickgarvey> Cooner750: do it as root
[12:41] <Cooner750> Is there a command to empty the trash?
[12:41] <hyphenated> zerboxx: in reality, do you mean 2-3 minutes, or more like 15?
[12:41] <Angel_Dex> how do i activate surround sound in 5.10?
[12:41] <nickgarvey> zerboxx: remember, you are booting an entire operating system off a single CD
[12:41] <zerboxx> hyphenated, mavric2001: It takes about 20 minutes to get to the desktop via the live cd
[12:42] <TheCreature> I get the following error when running apt-get update: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11710  How do I fix it?
[12:42] <nickgarvey> zerboxx: that would be a problem though
[12:42] <zerboxx> nickgarvey, On my old laptop it took a few minutes, nothing like 20
[12:42] <Cooner750> or can I login as root?
[12:42] <Stormx2> Cooner750: Trash is stored in folders like .Trash-root across the FS, you'd have to loop through em and delete the contents of these directories
[12:42] <nickgarvey> zerboxx: yeah thats way to long
[12:42] <hyphenated> zerboxx: that's way too long for a normal modern laptop
[12:42] <mavric2001> angel_Dex: what chipset does your pc use
[12:42] <nickgarvey> zerboxx: play around with some of the boot options, perhaps noapic nolapic
[12:42] <kingspawn> Cooner750: rm -rf ~/.Trash/*
[12:42] <zerboxx> hyphenated, New AW laptop :/ I think I've read that they have problems with ubnutu
[12:42] <obscurite> Cooner750 - sounds like you have to go into ~/.Trash
[12:42] <aajaj> hi all
[12:42] <Angel_Dex> mavric2001 idk its a 2002 compaq with a p3 how would i check my chipset?
[12:42] <hyphenated> zerboxx: there may be workarounds using kernel options as nickgarvey just said
[12:43] <nickgarvey> zerboxx: thats what I had to do with my laptop
[12:43] <Stormx2> kingspawn: Surely rm -rf ~/.Trash-*/*
[12:43] <aajaj> im looking to start a linux system for my HTPC and wanted to know how
[12:43] <zerboxx> hyphenated, nickgarvey: I'm downloading the dapper live to see if that changes anything *shrug*
[12:43] <mavric2001> Angel_Dex does that laptop even have surround sound? I wouldnt think so
[12:43] <kingspawn> Stormx2: oh?
[12:43] <aajaj> i came a across a guide a couple of days ago for vdr and ubuntu
[12:43] <aajaj> but i cant find it anymore
[12:43] <Stormx2> kingspawn: I thought the directories were named like .Trash-username
[12:43] <TheCreature> I get the following error when running apt-get update: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11710  How do I fix it?
[12:43] <Angel_Dex> mavric2001 its not a lap top its a desktop and i have a creative labs Soundblaster on it
[12:44] <zerboxx> hyphenated: I know this must be a very noobish type question, but can I burn the live cd to a dvd?
[12:44] <kingspawn> Stormx2: no reason for that, since theyre in the users home-dir, or..?
[12:44] <nickgarvey> TheCreature: 1. don't spam 2. wow you messed that up
[12:44] <mavric2001> thats 5.1 isnt it angel?
[12:44] <nickgarvey> TheCreature: get a new source.lst file
[12:44] <nickgarvey> !repos
[12:44] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[12:44] <Angel_Dex> mavric2001 Idk?
[12:44] <hyphenated> zerboxx: I asked that earlier :-) I only have blank dvd-rw's around the house
[12:44] <nickgarvey> !tell TheCreature about easysource
[12:44] <Stormx2> kingspawn: Meh looks like im wrong
[12:44] <zerboxx> hyphenated: hehe, and the reply you got?
[12:44] <hyphenated> zerboxx: and nobody knows. I don't imagine it works, but I will try anyway, because it's a dvd-rw so I can use it again if I need to
[12:44] <TheCreature> nickgarvey: I'm not spamming, I was told earlier to keep posting my question if it doesn't get answered.
[12:44] <Angel_Dex> mavric2001 creative labs SB audigy LS
[12:45] <mavric2001> check in ubuntu forums, sound blaster 5.1 is the the first place i would look angel
[12:45] <TheCreature> And thanks for the info ^_^
[12:45] <anto9us> obscurite, I could restore my email/samba/database/web services on another server within an hour or two, including travel time (if needed), is that too prohibitive?
[12:45] <zerboxx> hyphenated: Well I'll give it a shot, I have a handful of dvd-r's so I'm content with loosing one
[12:45] <nickgarvey> TheCreature: yeah but over and over in a period of less than 2 minutes is to much
[12:45] <hyphenated> TheCreature: who told you to keep posting your question if it doesn't get answered?
[12:45] <nickgarvey> TheCreature: try that, you really messed it up though heh
[12:45] <mavric2001> or sound blaster audigy
[12:46] <obscurite> anto9us - yeah, i need to be able to reboot and be up
[12:46] <intelikey> howto use xdm to automaticly login one user ?
[12:46] <Angel_Dex> mavric2001 Hum >< i have a set of logitech x530s taht are 5.1
[12:46] <obscurite> anto9us - but for other applications it would be fine to take 2 hours
[12:46] <Angel_Dex> idk
[12:47] <anto9us> obscurite, safest is a failover system, mirroring the other
[12:47] <obscurite> anto9us - more expensive than raid1 though ;)
[12:47] <Cooner750> anyone know of a good site for FREE website templates?
[12:47] <TheCreature> hyphenated: I don't remember. It was maybe last week or so.  I posted my question and everyone kept ignoring it, so I'm like "Could someone please direct me to the ubuntu support channel" and someone like "You're there" I: "So how does one get support?"  person: "you ask a question"  Me: " I did. Three times."  Person: "Well, this is IRC, you just have to keep posting it untill somebody answers".
[12:47] <`underOATH> Does anyone know how to get AIM to install for linux ?
[12:47] <anto9us> obscurite, that can be disproven when things don't boot
[12:47] <hyphenated> TheCreature: that was really bad advice
[12:47] <`underOATH> There is a version of aim for Linux now.
[12:48] <obscurite> anto9us - in this case i am doing raid1 and failover actually
[12:48] <Angel_Dex> `underOATH why not just use gaim or kopete?
[12:48] <hyphenated> TheCreature: and if you ask again, it should be after waiting a reasonable length of time, like 4 hours, and doing some google searches in between
[12:48] <intelikey> anybody ?
[12:48] <sval> `underOATH, just use GAIM
[12:48] <obscurite> anto9us - i also have hardware raid cards coming, but wanted to see how sw raid would work, since i plan to use it on other servers
[12:48] <`underOATH> Angel_Dex, and sval: i don't like those :(
[12:48] <mavric2001> angel not sure what to tell you, ive no problems with my onboard nvidia sound card
[12:48] <kakashi> hi there
[12:48] <Angel_Dex> mavric2001 idk i pluged them in and no surround sound
[12:48] <shrewduser> anyone know how to instal the dapper kernel sources so i can compile the new nvidia drivers for it?
[12:48] <sval> `underOATH, kopete ?
[12:48] <intelikey> TheCreature you can ask questions that are too hard for this channel...
[12:48] <Angel_Dex> regular sound yess but the middle and rear speakers do not work
[12:49] <philipacamaniac> can someone point me to dbus reference documentation for various GNOME apps?
[12:49] <`underOATH> sval, what is that ?
[12:49] <TheCreature> hyphenated: I don't think 4 hours is a reasonable amount of time.  I'd say if it's not answereed in 30 minutes everyone overlooked it.
[12:49] <anto9us> obscurite, I don't think there's much difference, do a trial run on it though... a backup is only as good as proven restore
[12:49] <obscurite> anot9us - amen brother!
[12:49] <TheCreature> intelikey: really? Which channel would be better to ask harder questions in?
[12:49] <sval> `underOATH, a multiprotocol client
[12:49] <mavric2001> right click your speaker icon select properties make sure the proper channels are enabled
[12:49] <hyphenated> TheCreature: there isn't a good channel for questions that are too hard for IRC :-) it's the nature of the question
[12:50] <`underOATH> Can someone help me get the official AIM linux client to work ?
[12:50] <gnomefreak> TheCreature: there is no such thing as a hard question or easy question
[12:50] <hyphenated> some questions have answers that are much too involved as well, and are better answered in a wiki or some other webpage
[12:50] <intelikey> TheCreature yes 30 minutes is long enough to wait.  and overlooked may not be accurate.   everyone may have read it and knwe they couldn't answer so they didn't try...
[12:50] <kingspawn> gnomefreak: now we are getting philosophical
[12:50] <zido> how do i load the new edited xorg.conf?
[12:50] <Angel_Dex> Anyone know how to make surround sound work?? TT_TT
[12:50] <gnomefreak> kingspawn: no what one person doesnt know another might
[12:50] <obscurite> anto9us - i'm worried that if the system is looking for swap on one disk and then i boot up with the other disk, swap won't work
[12:50] <sval> `underOATH, official AIM on linux ? doesn't exist
[12:50] <devnull_> how can i find out what drivers are built into the ubuntu kernel images that they offer ?
[12:50] <nat> hi everyone
[12:50] <kingspawn> gnomefreak: still, that does not pertain to the definition of a question
[12:51] <`underOATH> Yes, It does sval: www.aim.com
[12:51] <kakashi> i have a problem: i installed ubuntu and windows and im already using those two OSsystems for quite a long time but i had to boot from the windows cdrom because of formating a disk (i know i could have formated it in windows and linux or any other utility but it did not work in any os) it worked, but my MBR was deleted and that means i have no LILO but the system foulders are still in tact. My question is how to recover the MBR ?
[12:51] <gnomefreak> sval: use gaim the aim thats packaged for linux is like 1.5 and garbage
[12:51] <intelikey> TheCreature ##linux   at times.  can field some real tuffies.   or maybe even #linuxhelp
[12:51] <TheCreature> nickgarvey: what options do I click on  http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic to get the file I need?
[12:51] <philipacamaniac> no dbus experts?
[12:51] <nat> is anyone going to answer
[12:51] <ubuntu> where do i get edubuntu shipped to me?
[12:51] <gnomefreak> philipacamaniac: you talking python-dbus?
[12:51] <shrewduser> will there be a nice synaptic package for the new nvidia drivers? (dapper) ?
[12:51] <TheCreature> intelikey: Ok :)
[12:51] <whiter> answer what
[12:51] <obscurite> hi nat :P
[12:51] <`underOATH> sval, version 1.5.286
[12:52] <kbrooks> ubuntu: why?
[12:52] <nat> what kind of decoders do you need to run dvd from ogle
[12:52] <nat> thank you
[12:52] <kingspawn> TheCreature: beware of ##linux though. they are real hardas*es. atleast they used to be.
[12:52] <anto9us> obscurite, reboot shouldn't be an issue in that regard, maintaining a live system that becomes critical
[12:52] <intelikey> TheCreature it also depends on the specifics of your question.   i.e.  php questions go to php   xorg to #xorg   and so on.
[12:52] <kingspawn> nat: i cant help you off the bat, but what is ogle?
[12:52] <gnomefreak> ubuntu: i dont think it will be shipped i think its just ubuntu kubuntu in june
[12:52] <meagsquid> anyoen got any good laptop recommendations, been a while since i've gotten a new one?
[12:52] <sval> `underOATH, my mistake, i have a look
[12:52] <`underOATH> sval, I just can't get it too work.
[12:52] <kingspawn> meagsquid: just dont get a major brand one
[12:52] <TheCreature> intelikey: but mine are all Ubuntu questions ><
[12:52] <philipacamaniac> gnomefreak: sorry I'm really asking about dbus-send. Like if I created a shell-script that used dbus-send to send commands to say, Totem or Rhythmbox, or Gnome-panel, where is the documentation that has those available commands
[12:52] <anto9us> obscurite, I've learned to distrust speedy recovery, I've my own obscure methods of handling these situations, social engineering not being the least of them
[12:52] <kingspawn> meagsquid: and not a very minor brand either.. :)
[12:52] <intelikey> TheCreature as in ?
[12:53] <zido> anybody know how i reload X to load with the new xorg.conf config?
[12:53] <ubuntu> im on a live "regular" ubuntu cd but everything i download doesnt work where do i go to get edubuntu shipped?
[12:53] <gnomefreak> ogle is a music player
[12:53] <philipacamaniac> or just a basic dbus-send tutorial, in case I'm not quite grasping the concept
[12:53] <kakashi> how to recover the MBR ?
[12:53] <meagsquid> kingspawn: so who's your rec?
[12:53] <nat> ogle is a music player
[12:53] <obscurite> anto9us - social engineering people so you don't take the heat when things fail? or social engineering to get help?
[12:53] <kingspawn> meagsquid: hm, well, ive had luck with asus. in my opinion they are beneath dell in "knowability" and above the crazy asian brands
[12:53] <gnomefreak> philipacamaniac: i dont know of any howtos or anything on dbus
[12:53] <anto9us> obscurite, whatever works or is required :)
[12:54] <kingspawn> nat: help.ubuntu.com, search for restrictedformats inside the single page help html :)
[12:54] <TheCreature> intelikey: Like the other one. The ubuntu Synaptic Package manager is giving me an error.
[12:54] <`underOATH> Based on http://www.aim.com/get_aim/linux/latest_linux.adp: which version should i get if i'm using ubuntu ?
[12:54] <nat> ok thank you
[12:54] <MacSlow> ehm... anybody gave the new 1.0-8756 driver from nvidia a test-run yet?
[12:54] <TheCreature> Well, now it doesn't. Now it's the apt-get update thing..
[12:54] <philipacamaniac> gnomefreak: well isn't that kinda dumb. perhaps I'll expert myself and write a reference manual.
[12:54] <intelikey> kakashi windows 9x & 2k   use fdisk /mbr   xp may have a utill for that also.... i don't do windows.
[12:54] <intelikey> TheCreature what error ?
[12:54] <TheCreature> (http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11710)
[12:54] <intelikey> looking
[12:55] <sval> `underOATH, so just download the debian 3+ deb file and ' sudo dpkg -i file.deb'
[12:55] <kakashi> inteklikey: what do you mean by 9x & 2k ?
[12:55] <TheCreature> intelikey: That's after the apt-get update, though.  Not synaptic package manager.
[12:55] <kingspawn> intelikey: fdisk /mbr doesnt work under xp anymore?
[12:55] <`underOATH> ok sval
[12:55] <anto9us> obscurite, you can protect yourself immensely by having no single point of failure
[12:55] <obscurite> anto9us - where are you based?
[12:55] <sval> `underOATH, hope it helps
[12:55] <anto9us> obscurite, south Wales, UK
[12:55] <kakashi> i cant use fdisk mbr ...cause there is no place to use it ... i could use a liveCD but i dont have one and dont want do load one from the internet
[12:56] <obscurite> anto9us - the bigest point of failure for the system i am building is the power
[12:56] <kingspawn> kakashi: what's "no place to use it"?
[12:56] <obscurite> anto9us - the server room wiring is just scary
[12:56] <anto9us> obscurite, if you can disseminate any services to other machines, do so
[12:56] <intelikey> TheCreature looks like you need to   " sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get update "
[12:56] <kakashi> kingspawn: no MBR ... no linux ... i cant boot it
[12:56] <saif> Hello.
[12:56] <kingspawn> no mbr? well, then you need to get a bootable cd
[12:56] <kingspawn> kakashi: or floppy
[12:56] <kingspawn> heh
[12:57] <TheCreature> intelikey: Ok. Thank you! I'll try that right now.
[12:57] <sval> kakashi, did you try grub-install ?
[12:57] <philipacamaniac> is there an easy way to autologin to IRC rooms from Gaim?
[12:57] <anto9us> obscurite, hope you're not working full time in there then, guess heat will be an issue :)
[12:57] <kakashi> kingspawn: yeah could be a way
[12:58] <intelikey> TheCreature also of note.  if you ask and nobody seems to notice you.  watch who is answering a log of questions, then when they have a moment free, prepend their nick to your question....  :)
[12:58] <kakashi> kingspawn: you know how to creat a boot disc?
[12:58] <kingspawn> kakashi: depends entirely on the environment
[12:58] <obscurite> anto9us - this application will host email/db/nfs on these two servers, each raid1, and the web apps are served off of 4 load balanced web servers (redundant load balancers too)
[12:58] <TheCreature> intelikey: ooo! Ok. I'll keep that in mind :)
[12:58] <kingspawn> kakashi: google is very good at these things
[12:58] <kingspawn> kakashi: what do you want to do?
[12:59] <anto9us> obscurite, how many clients?
[12:59] <kingspawn> kakashi: have you got access to a cd-burner? if so, ultimate boot cd is great
[12:59] <Fnoy> what is the root password int he live cd
[12:59] <obscurite> anto9us - sadly i think there is some network gear between the core switches and the load balancers that is not redundant
[12:59] <frank23> Fnoy: ubuntu
[12:59] <obscurite> anto9us - about 35,000 users right now internally, plus some public hosting
[12:59] <kakashi> kingspawn: i have a ubuntu-install cd and i have access to a burner and i have just one free CD left ;o)
[12:59] <Fnoy> and username
[01:00] <kakashi> ok i have no free CD left sry
[01:00] <kakashi> ;o)
[01:00] <frank23> Fnoy: ubuntu
[01:00] <kingspawn> kakashi: where are you irc'ing from now?
[01:00] <Fnoy> thx pal
[01:00] <TheCreature> intelikey: when I do that update thing now it gives me this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11714
[01:00] <anto9us> obscurite, BIG offices :)
[01:00] <kakashi> windows
[01:00] <Angel_Dex> Anyone know how to make surround sound work?? TT_TT
[01:00] <kingspawn> kakashi: and, what is your mission?
[01:00] <kakashi> xchat is also available for windows
[01:00] <kingspawn> Angel_Dex: you need to wait for crimsun to be online, he knows sound
[01:00] <intelikey> TheCreature looking....
[01:01] <Angel_Dex> kingspawn, ok thank uou
[01:01] <obscurite> anto9us - these two backend ubuntu boxes are replacing an 8 year old sun E250 that has held up admirably
[01:01] <kakashi> my mission to recover the MasterBootRecord ...
[01:01] <Fnoy> ubuntu@82-203-172-59:~$ su
[01:01] <Fnoy> Password:
[01:01] <Fnoy> su: Authentication failure
[01:01] <Fnoy> Sorry.
[01:01] <Fnoy> its not ubuntu
[01:01] <kakashi> kingspawn: you sound like a souldier: what is your mission ... just i addition ;o)
[01:01] <kingspawn> kakashi: so you can boot winxp or the like?
[01:01] <sval> Fnoy, no root passwd with ubuntu
[01:01] <kingspawn> Fnoy: ubuntu disables root access by default. you cant su, you can sudo
[01:01] <meagsquid> kingspawn: asus manufactures the macbooks?
[01:01] <sval> Fnoy, you can define it with ' sudo passwd '
[01:02] <kakashi> im right now on my notebook which has only windows and i have a PC where i wanna recover ubuntu
[01:02] <Fnoy> what should i do
[01:02] <kingspawn> kakashi: everything computerrelated is like a war mission :)
[01:02] <sval> Fnoy, or ' sudo -s ' to open a root terminal
[01:02] <kingspawn> kakashi: damn near impossible, but somehow you survive
[01:02] <anto9us> obscurite, subnetting may be an option?
[01:02] <intelikey> TheCreature close synaptic and/or aptitude  make sure nothing is running apt  and then   "sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock "   and try again.
[01:02] <kakashi> kingspawn:ok
[01:02] <kingspawn> kakashi: still - do you want to fix mbr to boot windows?
[01:02] <TheCreature> intelikey, ok. Trying..
[01:02] <Fnoy> ok now
[01:02] <zizzi> i speak xdutch
[01:02] <obscurite> anto9us - subnetting? the web stuff has it's own VLAN already
[01:02] <zizzi> hey lea
[01:03] <kakashi> kingspawn: i thing the windows boot cd deleted entry of ubuntu but windows works just fine on the PC
[01:03] <kingspawn> kakashi: aha. two secs, there is a guide
[01:03] <kakashi> kingspawn: and like i said ... partitions are still in tact
[01:04] <kakashi> kingspawn: ok
[01:04] <sval> kakashi, just boot with a ubuntu live cd a run ' grub-install ' , it will reinstall grub in MBR
[01:04] <kakashi> sval: i have no liveCD
[01:04] <zizzi> iI SPEAKE DUTCH
[01:04] <anto9us> obscurite, well, subnetting and web stuff are very seperate entitites, it's about minimising network traffic
[01:04] <kakashi> sval: i would have done it before when i had one
[01:04] <intelikey> !dualboot
[01:04] <ubotu> for wintel https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo :for the Mac https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[01:04] <kingspawn> kakashi: basically, what you do is run the installer, go until it installs grub again (dont modify your hd-settings), and just reboot it
[01:04] <TheCreature> intelikey, Now I get this message: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11715
[01:05] <kingspawn> meagsquid: sorry, i dont know anything about macs
[01:05] <zizzi> BESTAAT MSN VOOR LINUX
[01:05] <obscurite> anto9us - i guess i'm in the dark on subnetting :)
[01:05] <kingspawn> zizzi: twice!
[01:05] <intelikey> TheCreature pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list please.
[01:05] <kakashi> kingspawn: ah yeah ... i rememeber the install .... ok ill give it a shot
[01:05] <sval> kakashi, so configure the windows bootloader. boot on linux and run ' grub-install'
[01:06] <intelikey> TheCreature also that warning doesn't mean it failed.
[01:06] <obscurite> What's a good non-meat non-dairy meal to eat while configuring ubuntu servers?
[01:06] <TheCreature> intelikey: it says "sudo: /etc/apt/sources.list: command not found
[01:06] <TheCreature> "
[01:06] <anto9us> obscurite, ok, think of local proxy servers for a department with it's own sub-network  and that about sums it up
[01:06] <kingspawn> obscurite: apples
[01:06] <intelikey> :)
[01:06] <ompaul> !nl
[01:06] <ubotu> Op #ubuntu-nl staat de koffie al voor je klaar.
[01:06] <ompaul> zizzi, ^^^^^^^^
[01:06] <kingspawn> TheCreature: i guess you have to use an editor, if that is your mission
[01:07] <kakashi> sval: im already doing ... but thx very much :o) ....
[01:07] <intelikey> TheCreature   cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:07] <obscurite> kingspawn - I passed up an opportunity to buy farm fresh apples at the market earlier. DOH!
[01:07] <molinero> !apt
[01:07] <ubotu> apt is, like, totally, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowTo/ or http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#apt-howto
[01:07] <kakashi> kingspawn: thx tooo
[01:07] <kingspawn> obscurite: bad mistake :)
[01:07] <kingspawn> kakashi: hope it works
[01:07] <kakashi> kingspawn: very much !!!
[01:07] <sval> kakashi,  ;-)
[01:07] <Fnoy> is ubuntu any good at supporting printers
[01:07] <kakashi> kingspawn: has to
[01:07] <tonyyarusso> ompaul: Thank you.  My brain was being dumb and couldn't remember the languge code :X
[01:07] <kingspawn> kakashi: :)
[01:07] <sval> Fnoy, like other distro
[01:07] <Fnoy> and that is?
[01:07] <obscurite> anto9us - I dunno if this helps, but I do run some proxy apaches on the web servers to offload some processing :)
[01:07] <Fnoy> bad right?
[01:07] <kingspawn> Fnoy: "yes"
[01:08] <ompaul> Fnoy, in general rather good - what printer are you thinking about?
[01:08] <tonyyarusso> Fnoy: Mine worked out of the box, but you'll have to do some research to see about yours.
[01:08] <Fnoy> canon smartbase mpc190
[01:08] <intelikey> TheCreature you did understand that that warning doesn't mean it failed .   it completed but the gpg=gnu privacy guard   errored on that list file.      k ?
[01:08] <sval> Fnoy, www.linuxprinting.org
[01:08] <TheCreature> intelikey, I remember I set up the apt-get thing before so that it would run off cd instead of the internet (couldn't connect to the net. Now I can) Do you think that might be the problem?  On and the sources thing is here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11716
[01:09] <TheCreature> intelikey, so it doesn't like the sources.lst, huh?  Well it's good that it didn't fail completely.
[01:09] <anto9us> obscurite, I would guess some balancing in terms of terms of business logic rather than allowing all 35,000 staff to do whatever, might be required, that's where social engineering comes into play
[01:09] <intelikey> it didn't "fail" at all. TheCreature
[01:09] <ompaul> Fnoy, its not obvious to me if that one is supported
[01:09] <zizzi> FUCK YOU ALL
[01:09] <obscurite> anto9us - even though there are 35k users, only 50-100 are online at any given time
[01:10] <TheCreature> intelikey, really? So all is well and I shouldn't worry?  And the sources lst looks ok?
[01:10] <Fnoy> its not
[01:10] <yanis> what should I do if a app askes me fro the kernel sources?
[01:10] <kakashi> kingspawn: ill speak to you later when i have lost all my data by formating the disks instead of just grubbing
[01:10] <Fnoy> windows didnt support it cuz of sp 2 and now ubuntu doesnt
[01:10] <Fnoy> aa man
[01:10] <anto9us> obscurite, I've dealt with that level of concurrency myself
[01:10] <kakashi> kingspawn: talk to you ...
[01:10] <obscurite> anto9us - the web server load is extremely low, even with reverse proxy going on
[01:11] <kingspawn> kakashi: hehe
[01:11] <kingspawn> kakashi: thatll be a nice conversation
[01:11] <obscurite> anto9us - the poor database was kind of dying on that old sun box though
[01:11] <anto9us> obscurite, yeah, I've had zope/postgresql cope with that
[01:11] <ltR20> hey guys, i'm trying to install the new nvidia drivers but it says x is already running.
[01:11] <kakashi> kingspawn: im in europe ... where are you?
[01:11] <ltR20> i'm installing the drivers from terminal though.
[01:11] <kingspawn> kakashi: norway
[01:11] <intelikey> TheCreature change the last line form "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ breezy universe"  to  "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ breezy multiverse"   and run  "sudo apt-get update " one more time.  and you should be all set.
[01:12] <disasm> Fnoy: what kind of printer? I've never had a problem with printer support, of course all my printers are hp lasers, so those are easy to work with
[01:12] <kakashi> kingspawn: too cold up there isnt it?
[01:12] <tonyyarusso> intelikey: Do they want multiverse and not universe?
[01:12] <Fnoy> canon smartbase mpc190
[01:12] <intelikey> both
[01:12] <kingspawn> kakashi: hehe, getting better now, but still a bit chilly :)
[01:12] <Fnoy> its a printer scanner etc
[01:12] <jeux23> hola
[01:12] <disasm> Fnoy: hp, lexmark, dell, ???
[01:13] <obscurite> anto9us - we once had an outside vendor do a load test on the servers, and the cpu never went above 15% - that's running mod_perl authentication, mod_rewrite rules, reverse proxy and the web servers were 4 pIII 600's
[01:13] <Fnoy> canon
[01:13] <tonyyarusso> intelikey: Is it on a different line?  Because what you just said would delete uni.
[01:13] <obscurite> anto9us - it was pretty funny that they couldn't make a dent ;)
[01:13] <kakashi> kingspawn: weve got about 15 degrees in the afternoon down here in the czech republic
[01:13] <sval> Fnoy, mpc190 is not present on www.linuxprinting.org, this is bad news
[01:13] <anto9us> obscurite, cpy is least of worries there, I would say
[01:13] <intelikey> tonyyarusso he has duplicate uni's
[01:13] <Fnoy> i kow
[01:13] <tonyyarusso> intelikey: Ah, okay.  Just checking.
[01:13] <TheCreature> intelikey, Ok. I'll tray that. Thanks :)
[01:13] <kingspawn> kakashi: oh, your in czech? nice. i am going to prague in summer/autumn
[01:14] <Fnoy> man canon has the worst slogan "with canon you can" bullshit
[01:14] <anto9us> obscurite, fast raid0 and lots of memory
[01:14] <obscurite> anto9us - true, though nothing bad happened aside from that
[01:14] <sfar> i am drinking urquell atm :)
[01:14] <obscurite> anyone using ubuntu on a 4way or greater box?
[01:14] <kingspawn> sfar: !
[01:14] <kingspawn> sfar: anything related to alcohol makes me intuitively like you (even when im sober)
[01:14] <tonyyarusso> Fnoy: Careful with the language.
[01:14] <yanis> where can I find my ubuntu's kernel sources?
[01:14] <sfar> \o/
[01:14] <sfar> lets make love
[01:14] <disasm> Fnoy: model?
[01:14] <intelikey> TheCreature for some reason apt doesn't like duplicate lines  duplicate lines  duplicate lines  very much  :)
[01:14] <crimsun> yanis: in the repository. apt-get source linux-source-2.6.12
[01:15] <kingspawn> sfar: right on!
[01:15] <sval> yanis, sudo apt-get install kernel-souce.xxx
[01:15] <anto9us> obscurite, I was runing web databases, when load got too high I seperated the services, to 2 x 2Ghz 1Gb machines with 3 times IDE 7200 Raid0obscurite, when load got too high I seperated the database and web services, to 2 x 2Ghz 1.5Gb machines with 3xIDE 7200rpm Raid0
[01:15] <crimsun> sval: we use linux-source*, not kernel-source*
[01:15] <Fnoy> like i said            Canon Smartbase MPC190
[01:15] <yanis> thanks
[01:15] <anto9us> I must have just lied there somewhere
[01:15] <obscurite> anto9us - this particular system always had db separate from web
[01:16] <TheCreature> intelikey, Oh dear. I think it's giving me the same message: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11717  Are you sure the fact that I configured it to run off-of cd instead of the internet isn't the problem?
[01:16] <sval> criminy, depends of the kernel
[01:16] <kingspawn> crimsun: whats the reason for that?
[01:16] <anto9us> obscurite, what RDBMS is it?
[01:16] <sval> crimsun, depends of the kernel
[01:16] <disasm> Fnoy: i don't see it in linuxprinting.org. you can always try other drivers of similar printers and see if you can get one to work, but I'd say it's not going to work in linux
[01:16] <crimsun> kingspawn: it's more correct to use linux-source, since a kernel is not necessarily just linux
[01:16] <obscurite> anto9us - used to be oracle and mysql, now just mysql
[01:17] <crimsun> sval: no, ubuntu has always used linux-source
[01:17] <anto9us> obscurite, I'm a fan of Postgresql
[01:17] <obscurite> anto9us - yeah me too, though i haven't gotten to use it much
[01:17] <intelikey> TheCreature that looks ok.   you should be able to   "apt-cache search <blah> "    and  install anything you like now.
[01:17] <crimsun> kingspawn: hurd, bsd, mach, etc.
[01:17] <ltR20> hey guys, i'm trying to install the new nvidia drivers but it says x is already running.
[01:17] <kingspawn> crimsun: yes, i see.
[01:17] <Fnoy> god help me it doesnt even work on windows
[01:17] <TheCreature> intelikey, Ok. Thanks again :)
[01:17] <Bambino> How do I make a backup of a file?
[01:17] <intelikey> TheCreature anything else ?
[01:18] <TheCreature> intelikey, Not right now :)
[01:18] <owner> any one finding working with dapper is much slower than breezy?
[01:18] <sval> ltR20, just kill X
[01:18] <intelikey> TheCreature ok good luck with it.
[01:18] <eugman> Where are the website mysql databases stored?
[01:18] <ompaul> owner, no it is faster
[01:18] <disasm> owner: i find it much, much faster, of course I use fluxbox and breezy was ridiculously slow at starting fluxbox
[01:18] <sval> Bambino, cp file file.old ( just a copy )
[01:18] <anto9us> obscurite, I'd say it's well worth the effore feature and performance wise, very good at scaling, concurreny benchmarks leave mysql well behind
[01:18] <obscurite> eugman - depends on your config. sometimes /usr/local/mysq/ sometimes /var/lib/mysql
[01:18] <denis_surfer> hi guys can someone help me with WIFI PCMCIA
[01:19] <ltR20> sval how?
[01:19] <kakashi> kingspawn: yeah ...
[01:19] <intelikey>  you         anyone know howto autologin via xdm ?
[01:19] <kakashi> kingspawn: how long you gonna stay here?
[01:19] <kakashi> kingspawn: im directly from prague
[01:19] <kingspawn> kakashi: its 01:19 here now. trying to get to 04:00 atleast
[01:19] <obscurite> anto9us - I'd probably use postgresql if i were building a large web project now
[01:19] <disasm> owner: may have better luck in #ubuntu+1
[01:19] <owner> disasm, i have fluxbox on breezy and it is pretty fast
[01:19] <sval> ltR20, ctrl-alt F1     /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[01:19] <kingspawn> kakashi: cool
[01:19] <obscurite> anto9us - when this project was started, mysql was a better choice, arguably
[01:19] <owner> disasm, i am just testing it on a test machine. thanks i am on the channel now
[01:20] <kakashi> kingspawn: also 1:20 here\
[01:20] <anto9us> obscurite, yeah, I'd argue
[01:20] <kakashi> :o)
[01:20] <disasm> owner: it was taking 15 secs for it to startup on breezy, and takes 2 secs on dapper
[01:20] <kingspawn> kakashi: then you have a good idea :)
[01:20] <eugman> Oh good I had mine in var/lib/mysql/ Hey will there be any problems if I just dump my old databses into my new installation? They are from the same version of mysql.
[01:20] <kakashi> kingspawn: any plans what you would like to visit here?
[01:20] <intelikey>          anyone know howto or even if you can autologin via xdm ?
[01:20] <obscurite> eugman - that *should* work
[01:21] <kingspawn> kakashi: no, hm, not exactly. i'd like to see franz kafkas house, and drink dark beer :)
[01:21] <owner> disasm, that is because there was a problem with the precompiled package.I recompiled it with xdm disabled and works fine here
[01:21] <eugman> Or it'
[01:21] <eugman> whoops
[01:21] <intelikey> well i'll ask again in a few hours....
[01:21] <owner> ompaul perhaps because i just upgraded might have better luck by reinstalling from sart
[01:22] <anto9us> obscurite, I think all web projects are potentially large
[01:22] <ompaul> owner, that does not make sense
[01:22] <kakashi> kingspawn: its said you will have big brests if you drink dark beer ...
[01:22] <mike> hi, i am seriously considering installing the dev release of ubuntu. i have the stable version installed now. What can i expect if i do install the dev version? heaps of broken packages?
[01:22] <ompaul> owner, but I am too tired to help you debug it
[01:22] <mikeo1> does xgl work on badger?
[01:22] <mike> ubuntu dapper im talking about
[01:22] <MdSalih3> hello all
[01:22] <ompaul> mikeo1, No it does not
[01:22] <mikeo1> i know it didnt before but does it now?
[01:22] <kingspawn> kakashi: im open to that
[01:22] <anto9us> obscurite, scaling is a problem for tomorrow though, merely be aware it might be an issue and plan accordlingly :)
[01:22] <kingspawn> kakashi: as long as the beer is cheap
[01:22] <mikeo1> there isnt a way to install a newer window manager
[01:23] <MdSalih> I have just installed ubuntu on my laptop - am find the mouse touch pad too sensitive.. how can i adjust this ?
[01:23] <ompaul> mikeo1, a release does not get extras after unless you backport something
[01:23] <obscurite> anto9us - sounds like good advice :)
[01:23] <mikeo1> on badger to get xgl working
[01:23] <owner> ompaul, simply perhaps a script has an upgrade script has a bug or just an old config files causing the problem. Thank you anyway this is just my test machine anyway
[01:23] <mikeo1> can i just upgrade the files that xgl uses to the new oens and leave the rest the same?
[01:23] <disasm> owner: yeah, I did that when I first upgraded to breezy in october, but this time around breezy was only a stepping stone for dist-upgrade to dapper
[01:23] <kakashi> kingspawn: what do you mean with that i have a good idea? you mean what i would recommend to you here?
[01:23] <ompaul> mikeo1, and then who will help you when it falls over - in theory you can I would not like to try it
[01:24] <obscurite> anyone have bridged networking working on a vmware workstation install on ubuntu?
[01:24] <kakashi> kakashi: beer is the cheapest thing in our land ;o)
[01:24] <kingspawn> kakashi: yes
[01:24] <anto9us> obscurite, commitment to long term project has to be an issue there, and be careful, you can be far more committed than all those around you :)
[01:24] <mikeo1> hmmm
[01:24] <mikeo1> maybe i should switch to gentoo
[01:24] <RemyLaptop> morning all!
[01:24] <obscurite> anto9us - story of my life!
[01:24] <kakashi> kingspawn: very hard to say ...
[01:24] <mikeo1> lol
[01:24] <RemyLaptop> anyone gottan a hp ipaq working with ubuntu ?
[01:24] <kingspawn> mikeo1: noone in their right mind switches to gentoo
[01:24] <obscurite> anto9us - I had to fight for 2 years to get these 2 replacement servers
[01:24] <ompaul> mikeo1, ask me how long I am using OSS software :-)
[01:24] <mikeo1> lol
[01:24] <mikeo1> this is for my server tho
[01:24] <mikeo1> and i would just want to run xgl over vnc
[01:24] <kakashi> kingspawn: it depends ... what are you interested in?
[01:24] <anto9us> obscurite, don't fight, break something :)
[01:24] <ompaul> mikeo1, that is just sad
[01:25] <mikeo1> but dont want to upgrade to dapper and have it kill my server
[01:25] <dabaR> ompaul: is that a recursive acronym, Open SOurce Software Software?
[01:25] <kingspawn> kakashi: hm, culture. literature, architecture, nature
[01:25] <obscurite> anto9us - guess what got me the servers finally. things started to break down :P
[01:25] <ompaul> dabaR, :P
[01:25] <mikeo1> vnc works fine with opengl stuff, as long as your connection is fast
[01:25] <ompaul> dabaR, yes :-/
[01:25] <kakashi> kingspawn:  i mean if you want to go sightseeing or if you music or sports ...
[01:26] <kakashi> kingspawn: ah ...
[01:26] <mike> what can i expect if i installed dapper? heaps of broken packages? what about the future?
[01:26] <Genfoo> mike, don't do it
[01:26] <RemyLaptop> anyone gottan a hp ipaq working with ubuntu ?
[01:26] <Genfoo> mike, if it ain't broke don't fix it
[01:26] <mikeo1> yeah i guess ill jsut stick to using xgl on my desktop
[01:26] <anto9us> obscurite, do some web searches on average IT expenditure per employee, irrespective of computer usage, across all business
[01:26] <mikeo1> and live cds
[01:26] <obscurite> if you install dapper, you should in theory be able to move your home dir over to a final dapper install - no?
[01:26] <mike> Genfoo, but i want newer packages
[01:27] <Genfoo> obscurite, #ubuntu+1
[01:27] <kakashi> kingspawn: architecture is everywhere in prague ... very interesting is the prague castle, and the part Mala Strana of prague (just under the castle)
[01:27] <mike> especially lighttpd
[01:27] <MdSalih> whats the default root password for ubuntu ? or how can I set it ?
[01:27] <Gau> ...architecture is everywhere
[01:27] <Genfoo> mike, well things work fine for me except for my printer :'(
[01:27] <mike> MdSalih, sudo passwd
[01:27] <obscurite> Genfoo - i was sort of asking for mike
[01:27] <kingspawn> kakashi: i will visit it :)
[01:27] <Genfoo> :P
[01:27] <anto9us> obscurite, me doing that very thing got both me and my assistant a 3000 pay rise about 3 years ago
[01:27] <kakashi> kingspawn: there are alway some galleries opened in prague co there is no problem to get in a few of them ....
[01:27] <sval> MdSalih, no default passwd ... for setting it just ' sudo passwd ' or ' sudo -s ' to open a root term
[01:27] <kclaf_> hello
[01:28] <Gau> ...I'm suddenly reminded of an interpretive dance I choreographed about architecture.
[01:28] <obscurite> anto9us - i get to work out of my own office separate from my client, so i'm not complaining about work conditions ;)
[01:28] <mike> Y Helo Thar
[01:28] <ipfw> anto9us:  what gave you a huge pay raise ?
[01:28] <mikeo1> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=133772 :p
[01:28] <anto9us> ipfw, letting my employer know they never had it so good
[01:28] <kingspawn> kakashi: looking forward to prague :)
[01:28] <kakashi> kingspawn: perhaps you come here when the programming games are taking place ... very intersting ... visited once ...but its not czech culture but the culture of the C language or others
[01:29] <kakashi> kingspawn: ah ... but be aware of pickpockets!!!
[01:29] <kakashi> kingspawn: living in prague for ten years and never been robbed
[01:29] <kingspawn> kakashi: sounds fun
[01:29] <kclaf_> would an1 know a way to bypass HDD check during ubuntu install ?
[01:29] <mikeo1> think ill installi t on breezy
[01:29] <kclaf_> because i just crashed my laptops HDD, and id like to run an ubuntu from USB drive
[01:29] <mikeo1> looks pretty easy
[01:29] <kclaf_> but when i do the setup, it hangs because it tries to detect the broken HDD
[01:29] <ltR20> http://pastebin.com/647066 <-- why?? i'm trying to install NVIDIA'S new drivers
[01:29] <kakashi> kingspawn: not even in the poor parts of prague ... at night so its really no problem here ...
[01:30] <obscurite> Prague seems like the kind of place you can move to and become a wizard or a potion maker.
[01:30] <kakashi> kingspawn: but perhaps theyll robb me and ill tell you something else tomorrow ;o)
[01:30] <RemyLaptop> anyone gotten a hp ipaq working with ubuntu ?  All I want to do is get files across to it...
[01:30] <anto9us> ltR20, you might need the drivers that match the kernel modules, 1.7660 or somethin as I recall
[01:30] <kingspawn> kakashi: :))
[01:30] <obscurite> But I suppose Prague is much more modern than I imagine.
[01:30] <kclaf_> i browsed the boot parameters, but couldnt find one to disable HDD check
[01:30] <Krhis> I would like to load a filesystem into my RAM. I have 3GB and would like to load a 1GB ext2 just for temp logs and stuff.
[01:30] <kakashi> kingspawn: if you want really some info you cann contact me via kakashi@seznam.cz
[01:30] <Krhis> Any suggestions?
[01:31] <kingspawn> kakashi: maybe i will :) i have saved it
[01:31] <kakashi> kingspawn: i would send you some places that would be nice to visit ... and could send you some electronic guide if you would like to
[01:31] <ltR20> anto9us:http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_1.0-8756.html
[01:31] <ltR20> not that?
[01:31] <kingspawn> kakashi: thanks
[01:31] <kakashi> kingspawn: ok
[01:32] <kakashi> kingspawn: no problem
[01:32] <kakashi> kingspawn: i had the choice to visit france or norway this year ... i have chosen france?! was it a good choice?
[01:32] <anto9us> ltR20, try earlier drivers
[01:33] <ltR20> i have older drivers, anto9us
[01:33] <arrick> ok guys, I want t strip a dell power supply so al lit runs is 4 hdd's, can someone help me?
[01:33] <ltR20> but the point is they released new drivers and i wan't to install them.
[01:34] <obscurite> arrick - strip it? what od you mean?
[01:34] <PseudoPlacebo> On my powermac, my linux install CD (Ubuntu) get hung up on a happy mac when I boot holding C.
[01:34] <anto9us> ltR20, if you've done any updates on nvidia-glx or nvidia-glx-legacy you may need later but earlier than latest
[01:34] <PseudoPlacebo> I've tried Dapper PPC install, and Breezy PPC Live.
[01:34] <kingspawn> kakashi: yes, probably :)
[01:34] <obscurite> PseudoPlacebo - that sticks
[01:34] <arrick> obscurite, It by default runs a whole system, however I am not mounting it on a mb, just 4 hd's, and I dont want it to burn up cause the fan is controlled by the mb
[01:34] <obscurite> stinks too
[01:35] <kingspawn> kakashi: i think norway is best if you have an interest in nature, but france for culture etc.
[01:35] <PseudoPlacebo> I also have no mouse.
[01:35] <anto9us> ltR20, you run dapper?
[01:35] <PseudoPlacebo> And only a keyboard.
[01:35] <cloudnet> how do i play mp3?
[01:35] <ltR20> anto9us, no
[01:35] <PseudoPlacebo> =<
[01:35] <kclaf_> is there a specific ubuntu help channel ?
[01:35] <arrick> !mp3
[01:35] <ubotu> it has been said that mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[01:35] <cloudnet> thanks
[01:35] <dabaR> kclaf_: you are there. /topic
[01:35] <anto9us> kclaf_, tis is it
[01:35] <kingspawn> arrick: you can do that, but i dont remember how right now
[01:35] <ltR20> Since i installed KDE in ubuntu my gnome install is really strange
[01:35] <kclaf_> k dabaR thanks
[01:35] <ltR20> Can i re-install GNOME
[01:36] <kingspawn> arrick: there are guides, you have to modify the thingy that usually plugs into the mb
[01:36] <arrick> kingspawn, i know, but i cant remember how either
[01:36] <anto9us> ltR20, apt-get install ubuntu-desktop I think will do it
[01:36] <Krhis> ltR20, is there somthing you want to reset?
[01:36] <arrick> you happen to know where some of the guides are kingspawn ?
[01:36] <kclaf_> would an1 be able to help me ? i need to bypass HDD check by Ubuntu's partitioning util
[01:36] <ltR20> Krhis, Yes GNOME.
[01:36] <kclaf_> because my hdd is dead, and id like to install on USB
[01:36] <Krhis> What do you want to reset?
[01:36] <ltR20> Krhis, Some of the things are messed up.
[01:37] <kingspawn> arrick: http://www.procooling.com/index.php?func=articles&disp=52&pg=1
[01:37] <Krhis> Linux != Windows.
[01:37] <arrick> thanks
[01:37] <ltR20> The volume control is bugged out, and the theme too.
[01:37] <kingspawn> arrick: might help. google is always helpful
[01:37] <arrick> thanks kingspawn
[01:37] <Krhis> With Windows you reinstall. With Linux just removing the config folders in your home dir and let it reset.
[01:37] <anto9us> ltR20, set up a new user and see if the login under that user works ok
[01:37] <arrick> I ust got the 8 hdd's hooked into the system kingspawn
[01:38] <RemyLaptop> anyone gotten a hp ipaq working with ubuntu ?  All I want to do is get files across to it...
[01:38] <dabaR> kclaf_: with breezy, 5.10 ubuntu?
[01:38] <kclaf_> yes dabaR
[01:38] <dabaR> kclaf_: I do not know that it can be done. Why not use a Live CD?
[01:38] <kakashi> kingspawn: i have to do some other thing ... if i have the desire of nature ... ill definately visit norway ... have a nice day
[01:39] <kclaf_> because live cd has slower acces times
[01:39] <kingspawn> kakashi: you too
[01:39] <kclaf_> id like a fast system, as it's going to be my main system until new HDD comes back
[01:40] <kakashi> kingspawn: thx
[01:40] <levander> I just ran 'smbpasswd -a' for the first time, but can't find the samba password file on my filesystem. Anyone know where it is?
[01:40] <obscurite> what's the slowest desktop/notebook you run ubuntu on?
[01:40] <obscurite> anyone running on a pI, PII or PIII?
[01:41] <kingspawn> obscurite: i bet it'll run pretty low
[01:41] <kingspawn> obscurite: pII must surely work
[01:41] <levander> obscurite: i run it on a dual PIII 550
[01:41] <ltR20> anto9us, you still there?
[01:41] <obscurite> levander - as a desktop?
[01:41] <levander> obscurite: it's great as a server, acceptable as a desktop, but desktop applications take a loong time to startup
[01:41] <obscurite> levander - ahh thanks
[01:41] <dabaR> kclaf_: I am not aware that that can be done at all, installing to a USB. Google a bit on that.
[01:42] <levander> obscurite: 15 seconds for firefox to startup, after prelinking 11 seconds
[01:42] <levander> obscurite: i don't consider it acceptable for my purposes
[01:42] <obscurite> levander - ouch
[01:42] <ltR20> My GNOME install is acting weird, but on a new user account it works fine again.
[01:42] <ltR20> How do i Reset it on my own account?
[01:42] <levander> obscurite: i do only have 512MB ram, not sure if upping that to 1GB would make a big difference or not
[01:43] <anto9us> ltR20, yep
[01:43] <kbrooks> ltR20: rm -rf ~/.gnome*
[01:43] <kbrooks> and
[01:43] <kbrooks> ltR20: rm -rf ~/.gconf
[01:43] <ltR20> anto9us, it works fine on another account
[01:43] <obscurite> levander - sounds like a disk access issue?
[01:43] <kclaf_> dabar : okey, thanks a lot for your help
[01:43] <kbrooks> or ~/.gconf2
[01:43] <m4rcos> Hello ! can you help me with COMPIZ and GDL ?
[01:43] <_jason> ltR20: I had that problem when I installed kde.  You can try deleting the ~/.gnome* and maybe even ~/.gconf*, but I ended up just moving over to a new account
[01:43] <kbrooks> m4rcos: no.
[01:43] <anto9us> ltR20, you could try replacing some of the gnome settings to try and fix it
[01:43] <kbrooks> !dapper
[01:43] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[01:43] <VRWarper> m4rcos, try #ubuntu-xgl
[01:43] <ltR20> _jason, same here.
[01:44] <ltR20> I installed KDE and everything messed up.
[01:44] <_jason> ltR20: i promptly deleted kde as well, but that's up to you :)
[01:44] <ltR20> _jason, i deleted KDE.. it's not my cup of tea.
[01:45] <levander> i thought ubuntu had an excellent KDE install?  that's the whole kubuntu thing...
[01:45] <ltR20> _jason, i'm going to try KDE again when KDE4 come sout.
[01:45] <obscurite> The KDE text editors rocks pretty hard (kate)
[01:45] <ltR20> _jason, will my themes get deleted?
[01:45] <obscurite> I find myself using various KDE apps
[01:45] <duelboot> obscurite, and just how dif is it from gedit?
[01:45] <kingspawn> obscurite: emacs...
[01:45] <Krhis> obscurite, vim.
[01:46] <_jason> ltR20: you mean by moving to a new account?
[01:46] <kingspawn> Krhis: emacs..
[01:46] <kingspawn> Krhis: ;)
[01:46] <Krhis> kingspawn, vim XD
[01:46] <ltR20> no, if i delete ~gnome
[01:46] <obscurite> duelboot - it's very graphical, very visual. also has a nice save to ftp feature.
[01:46] <_jason> ltR20: oh, no.  Your themes are in ~/.themes.  You may have to select them again though
[01:46] <obscurite> I generally use VIM, but for the save to FTP alone it's worth using kate sometimes
[01:46] <mike> will XGL/composite handling slow down games?
[01:47] <vge> sudo nano is a second nature now
[01:47] <Krhis> That's just one of the reasons I dislike KDE: It's an all-in-one-plus-a-bag-of-chips.
[01:47] <duelboot> obscurite, guess if i needed to save to ftp, it would matter...gedit does all I need
[01:47] <linuxpoet> Anybody have some experience with difficult sound cards?>
[01:47] <ltR20> okay it's deleted
[01:47] <ltR20> _jason
[01:47] <ltR20> do i reboot?
[01:47] <Krhis> I don't want my text editor to have FTP access....
[01:47] <Beforewisdom> Hirvinen, Ubuntu is so nice I decided to use the system as is, and the defualt choice of software.  Im using a lot of new stuff.   Im using xchat for IRC for the first time.  I guess my question is how do I ignore users in xchat?  Simply doing /ignore obnoxiousUser doesn't work.  I get a message telling me to put in a mask and type.
[01:47] <_jason> ltR20: log out and log back in
[01:47] <carthik> linuxpoet, please just ask the question
[01:48] <Krhis> duelboot, give me them back! :P
[01:48] <duelboot> krhis..uuuhhhhhh, nope
[01:48] <linuxpoet> I have this sound controller
[01:48] <linuxpoet> nVidia Corporation MCP51 High Definition Audio (rev a2)
[01:48] <linuxpoet> It doesn't work ;)
[01:48] <linuxpoet> I did a lot of research and it is not supported until 2.6.15
[01:48] <kakashi> kingspawn: boot loader on ubuntu is installed at the end of the install ... so i just took my data and sent it to the notebook and then ill send it back ... but i think that there will be a lot of problems with reseting the system ... doesnt matter ... will mange it per night
[01:48] <linuxpoet> To wit... I upgraded to Dapper
[01:48] <linuxpoet> but still no go
[01:48] <eternaljoy-> hey hey
[01:48] <kingspawn> kakashi: good :)
[01:49] <kingspawn> noone uses vim
[01:49] <kingspawn> its for crazies
[01:49] <eternaljoy-> in firefox, at google.com, how can I clear the google search fields?
[01:49] <Krhis> hehehe
[01:49] <eternaljoy-> anyone know please?
[01:49] <obscurite> vim rules!
[01:49] <LadyNikon> meh
[01:49] <polpak> eternaljoy-, I'm not sure what exactly you mean
[01:49] <Enthusiast78> When is Dapper coming out?!
[01:49] <kingspawn> i've used vim for years, just finally realized there are real editors out there
[01:49] <polpak> !dapper
[01:49] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[01:49] <Krhis> No one uses vim? And where did you ask this question?
[01:49] <ltR20> _jason, you still here?
[01:49] <eternaljoy-> polpak: when I use firefox, at google.com, if I click on the search field, it pops up all my search keywords!?
[01:50] <Enthusiast78> KingBahamut, Which editor do you use now?
[01:50] <ltR20> I did it, but the problem is still here.
[01:50] <duelboot> vim rules?  for a term editor
[01:50] <eternaljoy-> polpak: how can I clear that listing?
[01:50] <carthik> eternaljoy-, CTRL+A and the delete
[01:50] <polpak> eternaljoy-, oh. the saved form info
[01:50] <ltR20> How do i go about moving to a new account now?
[01:50] <Enthusiast78> kingspawn, Which editor do you use now?
[01:50] <sorsis> Enthusiast78: look roadmaps. wiki of www.ubuntu.org is quite good for that kinf of questions.
[01:50] <eternaljoy-> carthik: NO!
[01:50] <kingspawn> Enthusiast78: emacs, of course. it's friggin' fantastic.
[01:50] <Krhis> duelboot, yea, that's the point.
[01:50] <polpak> eternaljoy-, edit->preferences->privacy saved forms
[01:50] <eternaljoy-> carthik: i mean the WHOLE entire search keywords from past
[01:50] <eternaljoy-> polpak: ok thanks
[01:50] <Enthusiast78> kingspawn, I'll try it...
[01:50] <carthik> eternaljoy-, polpak said it
[01:50] <eternaljoy-> polpak: I dont have edit->preferences->privacy saved forms
[01:51] <kingspawn> Enthusiast78: i hope you do. but beware, it takes a lot of practice and some learning before it gets really, really good
[01:51] <linuxpoet> lsmod says: snd                    68576  6 snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer
[01:51] <_jason> ltR20: I just created a new one and copied the files I wanted form the old one.  Like docs, some settings.  It might be a little tough to get everything if you don't know what you are looking for.  Maybe you can try deleting ~/.gconf*
[01:51] <Krhis> duelboot, vim is good for sudo. Don't sudo with kate.
[01:51] <eternaljoy-> polpak: I dont have edit->preferences!  im using latest firefox
[01:51] <Enthusiast78> kingspawn, Just like VI. ;)
[01:51] <polpak> eternaljoy-, ......
[01:51] <kingspawn> Enthusiast78: even worse :)
[01:51] <mike> will XGL/composite handling slow down games?
[01:51] <duelboot> krhis, I'm in ubuntu...no worries...I prefer gedit...and use vi / vim as well
[01:51] <polpak> eternaljoy-, I'm pretty sure it's still there
[01:51] <eternaljoy-> polpak: it worked :)
[01:51] <Enthusiast78> sorsis, I guess you mean www.ubuntu.com, but thanks! :)
[01:51] <polpak> mike, supposedly not
[01:52] <eternaljoy-> polpak: found it, you were right, I was blind :)
[01:52] <ltR20> _jason what's the command
[01:52] <Krhis> duelboot, at least you're not using notepad.exe XD
[01:52] <ltR20> rm ?
[01:52] <obscurite> Kate is the most polished graphical editor for linux I've seen aside from the Eclipse IDE and Komodo the Perl editor
[01:52] <duelboot> lol, so true krhis
[01:52] <polpak> eternaljoy-, you can also disable it from saving the form data
[01:52] <eternaljoy-> polpak: it worked :) its all cleaned out now ;)  anything else that is stored elsewhere I need to clear?
[01:52] <linuxpoet> no thoughts?
[01:52] <obscurite> Actually I think they sell SlickEdit for linux too
[01:52] <eternaljoy-> polpak: how?
[01:52] <duelboot> ps what's notepad, krhis?
[01:52] <polpak> eternaljoy-, just uncheck the option for save form data
[01:52] <polpak> eternaljoy-, probably history
[01:52] <eternaljoy-> polpak: ahh easy!  done :)
[01:52] <polpak> eternaljoy-, and possibly cookies
[01:52] <Krhis> I don't know, a rumor I think?
[01:52] <_jason> ltR20: mv ~/.gconf ~/.gconf.backup && mv ~/.gconfd ~/.gconfd.backup
[01:52] <eternaljoy-> polpak: ok
[01:52] <sorsis> Enthusiast78: i'm allways correct. some freeking switches just twist my bits so that messages are corrupted between us.
[01:53] <duelboot> oh yea, the microsloth windoze thingermajigger, eh krhis
[01:53] <polpak> eternaljoy-, depending on how paranoid you want to be =p
[01:53] <Krhis> So true, so true.
[01:53] <eternaljoy-> polpak: if I use the new firefox "Clear Private Data", is that enough?
[01:53] <Enthusiast78> sorsis, I understand you. I suffer from the same evil force...
[01:53] <Krhis> obscurite, sure it's polished, but too much.
[01:53] <eternaljoy-> polpak: :)
[01:53] <kingspawn> eternaljoy-: its never, even enough if you know enough about your system and how stuff works
[01:53] <obscurite> Krhis: it's still pretty lightweight
[01:54] <eternaljoy-> kingspawn: never what?
[01:54] <polpak> eternaljoy-, it's up to you
[01:54] <kingspawn> s/even/ever
[01:54] <jmg> guys is there a daily netinst image?
[01:54] <eternaljoy-> polpak: how can I upgrade Fireofx from 1.5 to 1.5.1?
[01:54] <eternaljoy-> polpak: how can I upgrade Fireofx from 1.5 to 1.5.0.1?
[01:54] <_jason> ubotu: tell eternaljoy- about ff1.5
[01:55] <kingspawn> seems like an important upgrade...
[01:55] <kingspawn> worth the time, id say
[01:55] <eternaljoy-> jason: I already got 1.5
[01:55] <dabaR> haha
[01:55] <eternaljoy-> jason: how can I upgrade Fireofx from 1.5 to 1.5.0.1?
[01:55] <_jason> eternaljoy-: the page explains how to upgrade
[01:55] <polpak> eternaljoy-, no idea.. I'm still happy with 1.0.7
[01:55] <eternaljoy-> _jason: ok thanks
[01:55] <eternaljoy-> polpak: hehe :)
[01:55] <eternaljoy-> _jason: do i need to upgrade from 1.5 to 1.5.0.1?
[01:55] <kingspawn> use lynx, its better
[01:56] <_jason> eternaljoy-: well you don't /need/ to do anything, but imo it won't hurt you
[01:56] <eternaljoy-> _jason: and how do I upgrade Thunderbird to latest?
[01:56] <Krhis> obscurite, but still FTP for an editor? Real admins use rsync! (sarcasm).
[01:56] <jdmpike> does anyone know how to run WoW in a window?
[01:57] <Krollian> wudup my ubuntu peeps
[01:57] <Krhis> jdmpike, uhhh.... sure you have the right channel there?
[01:57] <kingspawn> dabaR: thats my man
[01:57] <jdmpike> yeah, I run ubuntu
[01:57] <jdmpike> hehe
[01:57] <Krhis> Ah, ok ok.
[01:57] <_jason> eternaljoy-: don't know, I don't use thunderbird.  If it has its own updater, I guess it would be similar to firefox
[01:57] <dabaR> kingspawn: that's how I surf all my porn...
[01:57] <Krhis> Wine?
[01:57] <jdmpike> yeah
[01:57] <kingspawn> dabaR: haha, thats hacker hardcore :)
[01:57] <eternaljoy-> _jason: ok ty
[01:57] <jdmpike> I just need the options to pass it to tell it to run it in a window
[01:58] <Krhis> It's been so long since I've played WoW. I'm a Rangarok player really.
[01:58] <Krhis> But I can't help you with it.
[01:58] <polpak> jdmpike, well, one option is to tell wine to use a virtual desktop
[01:58] <Krollian> Hey, this here newbie would like to know how to download, install, and change my video driver.  ATI Radeon X800 GDO
[01:58] <Krollian> GTO
[01:58] <jdmpike> ok, I will do that
[01:58] <polpak> jdmpike, I can't recall how to do it though
[01:58] <jdmpike> polpak, you can do it in winecfg
[01:58] <Krhis> Hmmm.... ATI..... >.>
[01:59] <polpak> !tell Krhis about ATI
[01:59] <Krhis> polpak?
[01:59] <juztin> help!  my system tray disappeared!  what do i do ?!?
[01:59] <polpak> Krhis, whoops
[01:59] <Krhis> ^^ It's ok.
[01:59] <polpak> !tell Krollian about ati
[01:59] <Xenguy> juztin: freak out!
[01:59] <Xenguy> ;-)
[01:59] <juztin> Xenguy, check!
[01:59] <Xenguy> heheh
[02:00] <juztin> for real though....it's gone
[02:00] <Krhis> I've got a Nvidia myself.
[02:00] <juztin> so when i minimize to the system tray, i can't see it :(  what do i do?
[02:00] <Xenguy> juztin: I hear it sometimes can happen with gnome
[02:00] <_jason> juztin: I'm afraid you need to reinstall.  Just kidding, right click and add to panel then choose notification area
[02:00] <Krhis> BFG GeForce 6800 GT OC 256MB (over clocked out of the box) if you care to know. XD
[02:00] <sorsis> juztin: would it come back if you wou press ctrl+alt+bacspace and log on again?
[02:00] <Xenguy> juztin: someone must know the command to invoke it
[02:00] <juztin> sorsis, nope
[02:01] <juztin> _jason, that worked...but now it's in the _middle_ of my panel
[02:01] <_jason> juztin: drag it with your middle mouse button
[02:01] <polpak> jdmpike, I believe so yes
[02:01] <Xenguy> juztin: it's not 'docker' is it?
[02:02] <jdmpike> polpak, it is - wow is running in a window now!
[02:02] <polpak> jdmpike, congrats =)
[02:02] <jdmpike> I can't seem to connect to my realm though
[02:02] <jdmpike> ...
[02:02] <juztin> _jason, you rock, thanks.... :D
[02:02] <jdmpike> thanks
[02:02] <juztin> Xenguy, nope, i got it :D
[02:02] <Krhis> Why did I come here again? Oh yea....
[02:02] <Krhis> I would like to load a filesystem into my RAM. I have 3GB and would like to load a 1GB ext2 just for temp logs and stuff.
[02:02] <Xenguy> juztin: K
[02:02] <jdmpike> so - blackbox is like crazy fast!
[02:02] <Krhis> Any suggestions?
[02:02] <cyphase> can you install ubuntu on one machine, then move the hard drive to another machine and boot without problems?
[02:02] <polpak> Krhis, ramdisk?
[02:02] <Krhis> jdmpike, Fluxbox personally.
[02:03] <cyphase> or at a minimum changing the kernel
[02:03] <cyphase> maximum*
[02:03] <cyphase> :P
[02:03] <jdmpike> is flux just as fast?
[02:03] <kingspawn> Krhis: tmpfs
[02:03] <Krhis> polpak, thanks. I'll look into it now.
[02:03] <Krhis> Yay, that's the one kingspawn.
[02:03] <Krhis> Thanks.
[02:03] <kingspawn> :)
[02:05] <jdmpike> man, wow is a hungry SOB
[02:05] <jdmpike> it is eating my 1GB of ram
[02:05] <polpak> jdmpike, yeah..
[02:06] <polpak> jdmpike, most 3d mmo's are pretty huge
[02:06] <kbrooks> can i format a inmemory fs?
[02:07] <kingspawn> kbrooks: tmpfs
[02:07] <Jhair> talking about eating ram...
[02:07] <Jhair> 24867 ?????     16   0 4358m 945m  81m S  0.0 11.9   0:00.62 java
[02:07] <Jhair> :(
[02:07] <kakashi> kingspawn ... im just facing another problem ... when i installed ubuntu i can only see a very disastrous screen after bootup ... any ideas ? ... i better look goooogle
[02:07] <kingspawn> thats what you get for having java on your system
[02:07] <cmmedina> Automatix for ubuntu rulz
[02:07] <polpak> !automatix
[02:07] <ubotu> hmm... automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[02:07] <kingspawn> kakashi: very disastrous? what is that? :)
[02:07] <kbrooks> kingspawn: ?
[02:08] <kbrooks> kingspawn: rephrase
[02:08] <Jhair> man that sucks :)
[02:08] <kbrooks> kingspawn: hoqw do i format itt?
[02:08] <kakashi> kingspawn: very very ...
[02:08] <kbrooks> to e.g. ext2
[02:08] <kingspawn> kbrooks: hm, mkfs.extx?
[02:09] <kingspawn> where x is 2 or 3?
[02:09] <cmmedina> I'm testing that
[02:09] <cmmedina> I hope that work fine
[02:10] <kbrooks> cmmedina: automatix is UNSAFE
[02:10] <kbrooks> cmmedina: use "EasyUbuntu"
[02:10] <VR_> do it by handdd!~
[02:11] <kbrooks> VR_: who says.
[02:11] <cmmedina> ok I'll try it
[02:11] <Krhis> Why not apt it like VR_ said?
[02:11] <VR_> kbrooks: i do
[02:11] <kbrooks> cmmedina: channel: #easyubuntu
[02:11] <cmmedina> I'm a new ubuntu user
[02:11] <VR_> i always feel so dirty when using those automated scripts
[02:11] <Krhis> There are some good tutorials, cmmedina.
[02:11] <Krhis> VR_, same here.
[02:11] <VR_> all you need is the wiki and the forums, maybe
[02:12] <VR_> and you can do it by hand
[02:13] <cmmedina> thanks
[02:13] <VR_> cmmedina: what are you trying to do?
[02:13] <cmmedina> nothing in special
[02:14] <VR_> mhm
[02:14] <intelikey> is it possable to auto login via xdm ?
[02:14] <kingspawn> if youre trying to do nothing, dont use automatix to do nothing
[02:15] <kingspawn> just sit still.
[02:15] <Krhis> intelikey, yes.
[02:15] <cmmedina> only I want to learn about ubuntu, and maybe I will work with some network aplications
[02:15] <nil> hi!
[02:15] <intelikey> Krhis can you tell me howto ?
[02:15] <Krhis> Sure.
[02:15] <VR_> cmmedina: if you wanna learn about it, then don't use automatix or easyubuntu
[02:15] <VR_> cmmedina: you'll learn way more by doing it by yourself
[02:16] <Krhis> System > Login Screen Setup > under the General tab.
[02:16] <Krhis> It's the Automatic Login option.
[02:16] <intelikey> Krhis that doesn't affect xdm
[02:16] <intelikey> only works on gdm
[02:16] <clvn> Can anyone tell me the easy'est way to patch my kernel to > 2.6.14?
[02:16] <Krhis> Oh.... sorry, thought you said gdm.
[02:17] <VR_> x and g practically look the same man
[02:17] <cmmedina> yes, I know that
[02:17] <eternaljoy-> cmmedina: hello
[02:17] <intelikey> Krhis i'd use gdm but i can't spare the 100m+ hd space required....
[02:17] <OrTigaS> hi! my laptop connected to ofc Network adn yesterday my laptop saw other win PC... not it didn't work again? any idea why?
[02:17] <cmmedina> VR_: my English  is bad
[02:17] <nil> grub is f*cked after a partition resizing; to reinstall it, I booted from a live-CD, mounted / and /boot on /mnt, then chrooted to mnt; but then grub-install fails; am I missing something?
[02:17] <VR_> cmmedina: youre doing fine
[02:17] <OrTigaS> now*
[02:18] <Krhis> intelikey, I don't even use X at boot up.
[02:18] <cmmedina> but I know that is the best way to practice and learn
[02:18] <Krhis> No login manager, just CLI then startx to get fluxbox up.
[02:18] <kalthare> Where do I go for Xgl help?
[02:18] <intelikey> Krhis well on this particular application i need autologin because the users passwd is locked.
[02:19] <cmmedina> I need to start newly with linux
[02:19] <Krhis> Ah.
[02:19] <kingspawn> Krhis: why startx when theres emacs?
[02:19] <kingspawn> (im sorry ;)
[02:19] <hyperactivecrond> i have an old dell latitude cp... ubuntu dapper flight 6 wont detect my cdrom drive during install
[02:19] <Krhis> lol, got me there kingspawn! XD
[02:19] <kingspawn> hyperactivecrond: does breezy work?
[02:20] <hyperactivecrond> kingspawn: nfi
[02:20] <intelikey> so anyone else know if it's possable to autologin via XDM ?
[02:20] <Krhis> For a split second there I was like... How the.... before I finished reading the sentance.
[02:20] <cmmedina> when I had my first dist, I worked with Xfree, and now I can see new graphic aplications
[02:20] <Remy> !patch
[02:20] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Remy
[02:20] <hyperactivecrond> !dell latitude cp
[02:20] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, hyperactivecrond
[02:20] <hyperactivecrond> !latitude cp
[02:20] <ubotu> hyperactivecrond: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:20] <cmmedina> Xorg is new for me
[02:20] <Remy> hey guys, as part of an installation I've been told to apply a "patch"  http://synce.sourceforge.net/synce/patches/ipaq-0.6-olivier.patch
[02:21] <Remy> anyone know how to do this ?
[02:21] <thoreauputic> intelikey: there are a couple of other *dm s - wdm I think? Don't know if it does autologins
[02:21] <cmmedina> I need to start from 0
[02:21] <TheCreature> If you go to Add Applications and try to add one and get an error that says"Installing this application would mean that something else needs to be removed. Please use the "Advanced" mode to install 'umbrello'." How do you get into the Advanced mode and is it dangerous?
[02:21] <Remy> I've tried running "sudo patch patchfile"
[02:21] <Remy> but that just sits there doing nothing
[02:21] <hyperactivecrond> less fireup and see...
[02:21] <hyperactivecrond> win2k that is
[02:21] <kingspawn> Remy: try smoething along the lines of sudo patch -p1 < patchfile
[02:21] <arrick> hey kingspawn that site you gave me on powersupplys is cool for running them parellel, but now I am looking for a mod to get my other hdd's powered without a mb attached
[02:22] <Remy> kingspawn -p1 being ?
[02:22] <Remy> the file to be patched ?
[02:22] <Stormx2> Playback of .wma's is jerky, what should I do?
[02:22] <kingspawn> Remy: no, patchlevel
[02:22] <hyperactivecrond> Stormx2: dont support wma and its nazi-ish leader/pusher
[02:22] <Remy> k
[02:23] <Stormx2> hyperactivecrond: Tough.
[02:23] <hyperactivecrond> true
[02:23] <kingspawn> Remy: might be p0
[02:23] <hyperactivecrond> lol this thing has win2k on it... lets see...
[02:23] <cmmedina> May somebody tell me some ubuntu advantages ?
[02:23] <obs-afk> Mmm, I found excellent ubuntu-admin food.
[02:23] <Remy> hm, that works better, but I get an error saying cannot find file to patch :P
[02:23] <thoreauputic> cmmedina: we would be flooding the channel :)
[02:24] <hyperactivecrond> thoreauputic: heh
[02:24] <OrTigaS> hi! my laptop connected to ofc Network adn yesterday my laptop saw other win PC... now it didn't work again? any idea why?
[02:24] <kalthare> Remy, you should be in the toplevel directory of the source tree you're patching
[02:24] <kingspawn> Remy: you have to be in the dir where the stuff to patch is
[02:24] <kingspawn> like patching the kernel needs to be in the kernel-dir, etc
[02:24] <Remy> ahk
[02:24] <Remy> so I'll need to recompile it maunally instead of installing from synaptic...
[02:24] <Remy> doh!
[02:24] <Remy> k
[02:25] <Remy> thanks
[02:25] <linuxpoet> Anyone have any luck getting a: 0000:00:10.1 0403: nVidia Corporation MCP51 High Definition Audio (rev a2) working?
[02:25] <crimsun> linuxpoet: you need current ALSA, or Dapper.
[02:26] <Stormx2> Playback of .wma's is jerky, what should I do?
[02:26] <kingspawn> i'll have me some whiskey
[02:26] <Stormx2> sorry *wmv s
[02:26] <kingspawn> makes it all so much better.
[02:26] <hyperactivecrond> it's a TORiSAN CD-ROM CDR_U200
[02:26] <kingspawn> Stormx2: delete every wmv you can find
[02:26] <hyperactivecrond> old
[02:26] <kingspawn> Stormx2: and never look back. its an evil format.
[02:26] <Stormx2> kingspawn: You sure are funny.
[02:26] <kingspawn> Stormx2: i speak the truth.
[02:26] <hyperactivecrond> stormx2: don't be h8in
[02:26] <kalthare> Any help available for Xgl? It's using 99% to 100% CPU, and I haven't even started compiz yet
[02:26] <Stormx2> kingspawn: pr0n comes in 2 flavours, wma or none.
[02:27] <linuxpoet> crimsun: I am running dapper and 2.6.15
[02:27] <thoreauputic> Stormx2: more detail please - what are you using to play them?
[02:27] <Stormx2> thoreauputic: Totem
[02:27] <kingspawn> Stormx2: you get your pron in audioformat? haha, nice.
[02:27] <hyperactivecrond> any module that would install that one?
[02:27] <carthik> !dapper
[02:27] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[02:27] <Stormx2> thoreauputic: Nothing else works
[02:27] <crimsun> linuxpoet: /j #ubuntu+1
[02:27] <thoreauputic> Stormx2: totem-xine?
[02:27] <kingspawn> Stormx2: first: switch to vlc.
[02:27] <Stormx2> kingspawn:: Thats why i said *wmv
[02:27] <Stormx2> kingspawn: Tried using that. Didn't work
[02:27] <kingspawn> Stormx2: the wildcard would be wm*
[02:27] <carthik> kalthare, go to #ubuntu+1 please
[02:27] <kingspawn> Stormx2: got the right codecs?
[02:27] <Stormx2> Think so
[02:27] <kalthare> carthik, thanks
[02:27] <linuxpoet> crimson I assume you are saying ask over there?
[02:28] <thoreauputic> !w32codecs
[02:28] <ubotu> w32codecs is, like, a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[02:28] <kingspawn> yeah
[02:28] <kingspawn> follow thoreauputics advice
[02:28] <carthik> linuxpoet, yes, that is a dapper issue, innit?
[02:28] <TheCreature> If you go to Add Applications and try to add one and get an error that says"Installing this application would mean that something else needs to be removed. Please use the "Advanced" mode to install 'umbrello'." How do you get into the Advanced mode and is it dangerous?
[02:28] <kingspawn> might help, you might have overlooked something
[02:28] <hyperactivecrond> ln -sf w32codecs crap
[02:28] <kingspawn> TheCreature: depends on what it wants to remove :)
[02:28] <linuxpoet> yes... I am in the room now
[02:28] <jadaz87> hello everyone i had wanted to come out with my own ubuntu distrobution like they have ubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu i was wondering where can i start?
[02:29] <TheCreature> kingspawn, how do I find out what it wants to remove?
[02:29] <Stormx2> kingspawn: VLC only works when i right click the file > open with VLC. And it just closes at random points.
[02:29] <arrick> hey guys, I cant remember if the fan on the power supply is suposed to spin when it isnt hooked to a MB, does anybody know the answer to this question?
[02:29] <hyperactivecrond> jadaz: /j #ubuntu-devel
[02:29] <arrick> been a long time since i messed with psu
[02:29] <kingspawn> Stormx2: right click -> properties
[02:29] <Puter> If I wanted UBUNTU to run a script at startup where would I start looking ?
[02:29] <kingspawn> Stormx2: and then tell it to autoplay with vlc
[02:29] <hyperactivecrond> Puter: /etc/init.d
[02:29] <kingspawn> arrick: its a dangerous game :)
[02:29] <arrick> I know
[02:29] <Puter> Thanks hyper
[02:30] <hyperactivecrond> bill's in the mail
[02:30] <carthik> TheCreature, go to "advanced mode" which is just synaptic. Before the thing gets installed, review the changes and if you dont like it dont let it install. You can also ask here if you are unclear then.
[02:30] <arrick> I've messed with them before, just been a while
[02:30] <kingspawn> arrick: yeah, i remember having two psu's going for a while, cant remember what for, though.. :)
[02:30] <obscurite> arrick - next, you need to rig up a smoke detector so when it catches fire it shuts down
[02:30] <Stormx2> kingspawn: Closes at random points.
[02:31] <intelikey> puter man init
[02:31] <kingspawn> Stormx2: thats weird indeed.
[02:31] <Firebird8> is there any movie making app for linux?
[02:31] <kingspawn> Stormx2: try installing all the codecs you can find in synaptic
[02:31] <arrick> I need the power for my other 4 drives, cause i have a 150w psu in the box, and another one outside the box
[02:31] <kingspawn> Stormx2: and if it works, start backtracking one by one, to remove the excess stuff
[02:31] <CraiZE> hi
[02:31] <kingspawn> arrick: seems easier to just upgrade to a more powerful one ;)
[02:32] <arrick> not without money
[02:32] <Puter> Will do Intel
[02:32] <kingspawn> point
[02:32] <obscurite> arrick - http://www.overclock.net/faqs/15751-info-can-i-use-two-power.html
[02:32] <arrick> just picked up a job this last month and gotta catch the bils up
[02:33] <TheCreature> carthik, so synaptic manager is the advanced mode of add programs?
[02:33] <carthik> TheCreature, yes it is so - find out by clicking that advanced mode button :)
[02:34] <carthik> TheCreature, you cannot break much if you read the messages before clicking buttons :)
[02:34] <kingspawn> aww, python is so cool
[02:34] <Mitja> What is the supplement for insserv?
[02:34] <kingspawn> arrick: hehe, whatcha doin?
[02:34] <kingspawn> arrick: jobwise, that is
[02:34] <carthik> Mitja, care to explain a bit more detail?
[02:35] <Drac[Server] > Is it possible to install the PPC version of Ubuntu onto a harddrive in a PC, and just not run it? I need a way to put it on the harddrive, and I don't have a modern Mac with which to do it - just an old one that won't run the CD properly.
[02:35] <arrick> i have 8 hd's hooked to my server, however, the internal psu is not powerful enough for the unit and the extra fans and hd's
[02:35] <TheCreature> carthik, where's the advanced mode button ><  /me blind
[02:35] <obscurite> arrick - let me know if that link works so I can feel the karma ;)
[02:35] <arrick> I want to power the hd's outside the box
[02:36] <arrick> ok thanks obscurite
[02:36] <io_> How can I upgrade to the newest gnome?
[02:36] <arrick> kingspawn, oh you mean jobwise, running a large linux network of 7000 computers at a school district
[02:36] <Krhis> io_, Ubuntu 6.04 will have the newest Gnome.
[02:36] <kingspawn> arrick: heck, that aint bad :)
[02:36] <arrick> just new to linux
[02:37] <kingspawn> arrick: id shy away from that like i would the plague
[02:37] <arrick> 10 years experience with m$ crap
[02:37] <Krhis> Ubuntu is released according to Gnome's releases.
[02:37] <arrick> new learning curve
[02:37] <kingspawn> yeah
[02:37] <Krhis> arrick, ah, that's ok. Welcome.
[02:37] <Krhis> We all went through that learning curve.
[02:38] <arrick> yeah my first order was to go from suse10 to ubuntu on the whole dang system
[02:38] <arrick> cause you cant get help with suse10 anywhere
[02:38] <kingspawn> Krhis: we all went through the 7000+ comp learning curve? :)
[02:38] <regulate> i just installed ubuntu and i'm a long time debian user and I like the fact there is 6 month updates
[02:38] <_Dez> i need help with my rt2500 wifi card
[02:38] <intelikey> lol.... wdm is kinda KUTE !  :)
[02:38] <fatehaze> Here's an odd question - can I use my Sony Ericson GC89 pc card to connect an ubuntu box to the internet through a cell phone network (GPRS/EDGE)?
[02:38] <intelikey> but i don't think it supports auto login user....
[02:38] <arrick> !wireless
[02:38] <ubotu> wireless is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers
[02:39] <arrick> evening intelikey
[02:39] <Krhis> kingspawn, you mean you're was only 7000? XD
[02:39] <intelikey> arrick
[02:39] <arrick> yeah
[02:39] <Krhis> yours*
[02:39] <_Dez> i have installed ubuntu server and i have a supported wifi card i get device not found
[02:39] <_Dez> its in lspci
[02:40] <mlaci> please somebody help me! i've just installed dapper drake and the installer didn't ask for any root passwords and now i can't login. what's the default password?
[02:40] <kingspawn> Krhis: haha
[02:40] <arrick> _Dez, only one eth device is active at a time
[02:40] <fatehaze> Is my question even possible on linux, in general terms?  Connecting to the internet on a cell phone network?
[02:40] <intelikey> _Dez best i can do for you is point you to the wiki.
[02:40] <intelikey> !wifi
[02:40] <ubotu> somebody said wifi was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[02:40] <nalioth> mlaci: 1: there is no root password 2: join #ubuntu+1 for discussion of dapper
[02:40] <ltR20> how do i open up a file browser in root
[02:40] <Remy> hey guys, I'm having an issue with Makefile
[02:41] <Remy> how do I tell it to run make in the current directoy ?>
[02:41] <Remy> *directory?
[02:41] <intelikey> ltR20 gksudo nautilus
[02:41] <_Dez> when i do ifconfig only lo shows up
[02:41] <arrick> Remy, you haev to be in the directoyr then type make
[02:41] <Remy> whenever I run 'make' I get this error:  make: *** No rule to make target `/lib/modules/2.6.15-20-386/build/drivers/usb/serial/usb-serial.h', needed by `usb-serial.h'.  Stop.
[02:41] <Remy> no matter what directory I'm in
[02:41] <arrick> _Dez, iwconfig for wireless
[02:41] <Remy> I always get that error
[02:41] <kingspawn> fatehaze: of course it is possible.
[02:41] <Remy> whether there is a Makefile in the directory or not !
[02:41] <kingspawn> fatehaze: with the right driver, you can do anything on linux
[02:42] <intelikey> Remy is there a Makefile in the pwd ?
[02:42] <_Dez> arrick my i privmsg you?
[02:42] <Remy> pwd ?
[02:42] <hyperactivecrond> Remy: Print Working Directory
[02:42] <intelikey> remy do you have b-e installed ?
[02:42] <arrick> _Dez, just join #arrick
[02:42] <hyperactivecrond> == directory
[02:42] <intelikey> !b-e
[02:42] <ubotu> well, b-e is no make ?  you need build-essential or if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, you need to do a    sudo apt-get install build-essential.
[02:42] <fatehaze> kingspawn: thanks, here's hoping
[02:42] <Remy> intelikey yes there is
[02:42] <Remy> (a makefile)
[02:42] <Remy> I don't know about b-e... what is that ?
[02:42] <kingspawn> fatehaze: heh, but that takes the skill to code the drivers yourself if they dont exist :)
[02:43] <intelikey> hyperactivecrond pwd != print....  present working dir
[02:43] <Remy> intelikey, but even if there isn't a makefile I still get the same error
[02:43] <TheCreature> when I try to install a package, I get messages saying that it's got unresolved dependancies. When I go to install the thing that it depends on, I get the following msg: kdelibs4c2-dbg:
[02:43] <TheCreature>  Depends: kdelibs4c2 (=4:3.4.3-0ubuntu1) but it is not installable Any way to fix that?
[02:43] <fatehaze> kingspawn: I can probably guess that there is no linux support on those Sony Ericsson drivers, right?  :P
[02:43] <hyperactivecrond> ah shell variable $PWD is that
[02:43] <intelikey> Remy b-e ?
[02:43] <Remy> intelikey, what is b-e ?
[02:43] <hyperactivecrond> but iirc program pwd = print working dir
[02:44] <Remy> !b-e
[02:44] <ubotu> I heard b-e is no make ?  you need build-essential or if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, you need to do a    sudo apt-get install build-essential.
[02:44] <obscurite> One of my mdadm raid1 drives automatically rebuilts when i remove it and re-attach it. The other one doesn't - after i remove it, it doesn't get recognized again. Any ideas?
[02:44] <Remy> intelikey I do have b-e
[02:44] <intelikey> hyperactivecrond yes... but asking about files in the pwd would clearify which i meant, would it not ?
[02:44] <kingspawn> fatehaze: cant tell you, but doesnt seem likely :)
[02:45] <Remy> the question is, why would running make always give me the same error, irrespective of whether there is a Makefile in the current directory or not !?
[02:46] <_jason> !b-e =~ s/apt-get/aptitude/
[02:46] <ubotu> _jason: OK
[02:46] <intelikey> Remy if you have b-e installed, any you said you do.  and there is a makefile in the pwd, and you said there is.  then something must have went wrong with the .configure   the makefile has errors.
[02:46] <kingspawn> Remy: whats the error? i havent been following conv.
[02:46] <Remy> $ make
[02:46] <Remy> make: *** No rule to make target `/lib/modules/2.6.15-20-386/build/drivers/usb/serial/usb-serial.h', needed by `usb-serial.h'.  Stop.
[02:46] <intelikey> err ./configure ^
[02:46] <Remy> I can run make ANYWHERE, and I get that same message
[02:46] <Remy> doesn't matter if there is a makefile there or not...
[02:47] <kingspawn> Remy: what if you run "make clean" anywhere? does it actually do anything?
[02:47] <thoreauputic> Remy: you do know about ./configure, right?
[02:47] <Remy> hm hang on sec...
[02:47] <Remy> yeah
[02:47] <kingspawn> this seems to be unrelated to configure and makefiles, really
[02:48] <kingspawn> since it is looking around in kernel trees
[02:48] <thoreauputic> !info kernel-package
[02:48] <ubotu> kernel-package: (A utility for building Linux kernel related Debian packages.), section misc, is optional. Version: 9.001ubuntu5 (breezy), Packaged size: 352 kB, Installed size: 1316 kB
[02:48] <thoreauputic> ^^^
[02:48] <Remy> ok, I take it back... it's only happening in that directory, so it must be THAT particular makefile...
[02:48] <Remy> http://synce.sourceforge.net/synce/usbpatch.php#compile
[02:48] <Remy> The makefile was downloaded from there
[02:49] <intelikey> kingspawn i don't know why it would look in /lib/modules/2.6.15-20-386/build/drivers/usb/serial/ unless the makefile sent it there.... ?
[02:49] <eugman> I've got a 13 and a half hour long mp3. How can I break it into cd sized chunks?
[02:50] <Remy> http://synce.sourceforge.net/synce/usbpatch.php#compile  <-- what does point 1 there mean ?
[02:50] <kingspawn> intelikey: hm, no, you've got a valid point
[02:50] <Remy> What kernel source tree would they be talking about ?
[02:50] <Remy> The source for my linux, or for the program I'm trying to compile ?
[02:50] <kingspawn> Remy: what are you trying to do?
[02:50] <kingspawn> Remy: im starting to feel intelikey on this one
[02:51] <Remy> kingspawn trying to syncronise an IPAQ h5550 with ubuntu...
[02:51] <Remy> I need to apply a patch
[02:51] <Kusza_135> hi
[02:51] <Remy> an recompile it manually...
[02:51] <Remy> *and
[02:51] <Kusza_135> I have a small
[02:51] <Kusza_135> problem
[02:51] <sonic> Does anyone know how i can easily remove an install of Ubuntu that I made by mistake?
[02:51] <Xenguy> sonic: there's no such thing
[02:52] <intelikey> sonic format the partition ?
[02:52] <sonic> when I boot now, I get a choice of ubuntu, ubuntu failsafe, ubuntu, ubuntu failsafe
[02:52] <Kusza_135> I can't install desktop themes
[02:52] <TheCreature> when I try to install a package, I get messages saying that it's got unresolved dependancies. When I go to install the thing that it depends on, I get the following msg: kdelibs4c2-dbg: Depends: kdelibs4c2 (=4:3.4.3-0ubuntu1) but it is not installable Any way to fix that?
[02:52] <kingspawn> Remy: aha. well, where did you get the patch, whats its name, have you applied it correctly, have you done "man patch" have you read up on how the ipaq integrates with linux?
[02:52] <Kusza_135> whatshould i do ??
[02:52] <sonic> its like I installed Ubuntu twice by mistake or something
[02:52] <sonic> or maybe an updates went wrong
[02:52] <intelikey> sonic wait.  you only want to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:52] <_jason> TheCreature: can you put your /etc/apt/sources.list on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ please and give us a link?
[02:53] <Xenguy> sonic: nah, it wasn't a mistake; it was fate =)
[02:53] <sonic> lol
[02:53] <Remy> kingspawn yes to most of the above... That site where I d/l that man file from has fairly comprehensive details on how to do it, unfortunately they aren't comprehensinve enough for a noobie like myself, so I'm just kinda blundering along :)
[02:53] <obscurite> Xenguy - can Xen run as a client yet? or does it still take over your system?
[02:53] <Remy> atm I'm doing this:  http://synce.sourceforge.net/synce/tarballs.php
[02:53] <sonic> intelikey: how do I edit the file?
[02:54] <sonic> or rather, how would I open it through the terminal
[02:54] <MdSalih> is there anything like daemon tools for ubuntu ?
[02:54] <intelikey> sonic gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.lis
[02:54] <Remy> I'm assuming that I should apply the patch somewhere in the middle of that process
[02:54] <kingspawn> Remy: go through that stuff that you linked here step by step
[02:54] <_jason> MdSalih: what do they do?
[02:54] <Xenguy> obscurite: don't be fooled by my nick :-) But I think Xen is 'pre-kernel' in a sense, isn't it?
[02:54] <Xenguy> obscurite: BTW I hide the nick first :-)
[02:54] <TheCreature> _jason, Sure http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11719
[02:54] <Xenguy> s/hide/had
[02:54] <intelikey> sonic that assumes default ubuntu
[02:55] <obscurite> Xenguy - ahh, sorry. ;) yeah, it's a kernel replacement, from what I understand
[02:55] <Trae> !flight
[02:55] <ubotu> well, flight is http://www.ubuntu.com/testing
[02:55] <sonic> intelikey:  that command opens up a blank text document
[02:55] <intelikey> sonic  sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.lst     if you did a server install
[02:55] <mystic_portal> !xen
[02:55] <ubotu> [xen]  a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. It can be found at http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/Research/SRG/netos/xen/ .
[02:55] <intelikey> ?
[02:55] <mystic_portal> !sudo
[02:55] <dabaR> _jason:
[02:55] <dabaR> _jason:  20:09 < ubotu> well, flight is http://www.ubuntu.com/testing
[02:55] <dabaR> 20:09 < sonic> intelikey:  that command opens up a blank text document
[02:55] <dabaR> 20:09 < intelikey> sonic  sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.lst     if you did a
[02:55] <ubotu> sudo is, like, totally, a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[02:55] <Remy> kingspawn , I am... but what I don't understand is where/when do I apply this patch:  http://synce.sourceforge.net/synce/usb_linux.php (see under special information for h5550)
[02:55] <dabaR>                    sorry.
[02:55] <Xenguy> obscurite: it's the lowest layer, and everything stalls on top (I think :P )
[02:55] <Puter> So to get UBUNTU to enable port forwarding at bootup I would create a script (echo "1" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward) into /etc/rc1.d ?
[02:55] <dabaR> _jason: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11487
[02:55] <eugman> Anyone know how to split up a mp3?
[02:55] <sonic> is it supposed to be blank?
[02:55] <obscurite> Xenguy - I just wish it could run in a vmware-like way, so I don't have to have a funky kernel and all that
[02:56] <Xenguy> sonic: split ?
[02:56] <obscurite> Xenguy - vmware workstation that is. ;)
[02:56] <sonic> xenguy:  I dont quite understand?
[02:56] <Xenguy> obscurite: it doesn't run d0ze either yet, does it?
[02:56] <norman> Hi I've never been on linux before! Any tips to play dvd and avi dvix etc
[02:56] <OrTigaS> hi! my laptop connected to ofc Network and yesterday my laptop saw other win PC... now it didn't work again? any idea why?
[02:56] <obscurite> Xenguy - not last i checked which was a while back
[02:56] <mystic_portal> !dvd
[02:56] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[02:56] <mystic_portal> help?
[02:56] <Puter> So to get UBUNTU to enable port forwarding at bootup I would create a script (echo "1" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward) into /etc/rc1.d ?
[02:56] <intelikey> sonic my bad,  pasted something else.... sorry.    gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:57] <_jason> TheCreature: issue the following command to edit your sources, gksudo 'gedit /etc/apt/sources.list'              delete the last 2 nonempty lines in your sources.list and then remove the # from the beginning of all of the lines that start with # (with the exception of backports, those should stay commented imo)
[02:57] <arrick> where is the wireless conf located on the ubuntu terminals?
[02:57] <Firebird8> anyone know of a movie making app for linux????
[02:57] <dabaR> _jason: just make him paste what is on that pastebin, that is a good sources setup.
[02:57] <_jason> dabaR: is that for ... was about to ask you that :)
[02:57] <Remy> any ideas kingspawn ?
[02:57] <Xenguy> sonic: neither do I ATM :-)
[02:58] <intelikey> arrick /etc  is the base dir for "almost" all linux configs.
[02:58] <_jason> TheCreature: alternatively you can just delete the contents of yours and use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11487 that dabaR made for you
[02:58] <sonic> lol
[02:58] <arrick> !F5D7010
[02:58] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, arrick
[02:58] <sonic> intelikey:  Thanks, shall I just delete the boot options I dont need?
[02:58] <arrick> ok tanks
[02:58] <intelikey> sonix yep.
[02:58] <intelikey> sonic yep
[02:58] <MdSalih> is there anything in ubuntu that will mount a disk image .. i.e iso/cue & bin/nrg
[02:58] <intelikey> i need to go learn how to type....
[02:59] <TheCreature> _jason, Ok, I'll try that. Thanks :)
[02:59] <_jason> MdSalih: the mount command, mount -t iso9660 -loop 0 /path/to/iso /mount/point
[02:59] <cloudnet> how do i play a dvd?
[02:59] <sonic> intelikey:  thanks alot man
[02:59] <_jason> !dvd
[02:59] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[02:59] <intelikey> np
[02:59] <cloudnet> thanks
[02:59] <mystic_portal> !tell cloudnet about dvd
[03:00] <_jason> MdSalih: oops, I messed up, instead of '-loop 0' it's '-o loop' :)
[03:00] <TheCreature> _jason, so I replace my sources text w/ that completely? Like 100%?  *just making sure*
[03:00] <_jason> TheCreature: yep
[03:00] <CBG> Hey folks. I ran Ubuntu on a live CD. I have a wireless network here yet in Administration > Networking I can only choose between Ethernet and Modem. I don't even get a chance to Add anything which the help said I could. Any ideas?
[03:00] <dabaR> TheCreature: you can, that one is good.
[03:00] <_jason> TheCreature: once you do that, save it.  Then run 'sudo apt-get update'
[03:01] <brice> lut
[03:01] <brice> !list
[03:01] <ubotu> hmm... list is you can see a list of things I know at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[03:01] <intelikey> _jason you too ehh ?
[03:01] <_jason> intelikey: hmm?
[03:01] <intelikey> nm
[03:01] <_jason> intelikey: oh, yeah I need to learn to type too
[03:01] <mystic_portal> !tell CGB about live cd
[03:01] <intelikey> :)
[03:02] <mystic_portal> !tell CGB about Networking
[03:02] <eugman> HEY, anyone know of a easy way to split a huge mp3 file into cd sized chunks?
[03:02] <mystic_portal> !mp3
[03:02] <FireplaceTV> eugman: audacity?
[03:02] <ubotu> hmm... mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:02] <CBG> !tell CBG about live cd
[03:02] <_jason> eugman: man split ?  or do they need to be playable?
[03:02] <CBG> !tell CBG about Networking
[03:02] <zerboxx> Can anyone help me with a unique booting question? I have a button on my laptop which loads PowerCinema Linux, and I'm wondering if I can make it boot ubuntu instead
[03:02] <intelikey> it's not even a full moon _jason, idk what's up; but i've typoed some dandies today.
[03:02] <CBG> pff, neither work...
[03:02] <eugman> Playable. This is 13 hours long so it take a while for audacity to even import it.
[03:03] <dabaR> CBG: /msg the bot
[03:03] <FireplaceTV> !tell FireplaceTV about firewire
[03:03] <CBG> dabaR: with...? :/
[03:03] <eugman> And don't yell at me to not use evil restricted formats. I got this from project gutenberg and all they had was mp3.
[03:03] <tritium> easy there, eugman
[03:03] <intelikey> eugman :)
[03:03] <eugman> yeah that was too much sorry.
[03:04] <dabaR> CBG: /msg ubotu networking or whatever.
[03:04] <FireplaceTV> we're going to sue you now.
[03:04] <katya`> anyone know why when I use my wireless with dhcp it loses the connection like every minute, if I type dhclient it will reconnet, but lose it again
[03:04] <LazyAngel> how can i make a deb from a "bin" installation file?
[03:04] <mystic_portal> !tell katya` about wireless
[03:04] <intelikey> CBG tegestered nick ?
[03:04] <mystic_portal> !bin
[03:04] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, mystic_portal
[03:04] <CBG> dabaR: It doesn't know anything about Networking or Live CD.
[03:05] <dabaR> LazyAngel: what is the bin?
[03:05] <eugman> So does anyone know of a file splitting program that will produce playable output?
[03:05] <intelikey> registered even
[03:05] <LazyAngel> dabaR: doom3
[03:05] <CBG> intelikey: I can send and revieve PMs, if that's what you mean.
[03:05] <intelikey> yeah
[03:05] <eugman> Or do I have to use audacity?
[03:05] <dabaR> CBG: I know something about those.
 i dunno what is 'live cd'.
 i dunno what is 'Networking'.
[03:05] <FireplaceTV> lame probably does it by the command line somehow
[03:05] <mystic_portal> !tell dabaR about doom
[03:06] <intelikey> so while it's quiet in here,  anyone know if it's possable to autologin via xdm ?
[03:06] <dabaR> mystic_portal: lazyangel needed that:)
[03:06] <_jason> eugman: strangely enough, I just found mp3split in the repos :)  seems to do what you want
[03:06] <mystic_portal> !tell lazyangel about doom
[03:06] <eugman> Huzzah!
[03:06] <mystic_portal> there
[03:06] <CBG> so, nobody can help me?
[03:06] <dabaR> CBG: what was the question you asked?
[03:07] <kingspawn> _jason: does mp3split split up large mp3s into smaller ones? i just had the idea to code that in the toilet an hour ago... :)
[03:07] <LazyAngel> dabaR, mystic_portal: that was not what i asked for
[03:07] <_jason> kingspawn: no idea, I only searched and got mp3splt - Splits MP3 and Ogg Vorbis files without reencoding
[03:07] <katya`> that site doesn't do any good, I already got it running I don't understand why it keeps losing the connection, I'm assuming it's something with dhclient
[03:07] <kingspawn> _jason: that is, the idea came to me in the toilet, i dont want to code it in the toilet... ;)
[03:07] <bassmoy> ubuntu spanish?
[03:07] <dabaR> CBG: wireless often requires additional setup. you can start by asking ubotu about wireless
[03:07] <_jason> kingspawn: ha
[03:07] <tritium> !es
[03:07] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:07] <_jason> !es
[03:07] <CBG> Administration > Networking does not let me "Add" like the help suggests.
[03:07] <eugman> Kingspawn, or evern better, code it on your computer.
[03:07] <dabaR> LazyAngel: did you read that wiki page?
[03:07] <mystic_portal> !tell Lazyangel question
[03:08] <kingspawn> eugman: its worth a shot, aint it ;)
[03:08] <mystic_portal> !questions
[03:08] <ubotu> from memory, questions is what #ubuntu exists for. Please help by asking good, clear questions. http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html is recommended reading
[03:08] <mystic_portal> read that lazy angel
[03:08] <TheCreature> _jason, I get this at the end of apt-get update: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11720 Is that ok?
[03:08] <FireplaceTV> so i want to mount an external firewire drive on my g3
[03:09] <LazyAngel> mystic_portal, dabaR: yes, i asked for how to build a deb file from a bin file. you linked to a file how to install a bin file... :/
[03:09] <dabaR> TheCreature: no, that is no good.
[03:09] <dabaR> !gpgerr
[03:09] <ubotu> it has been said that gpgerr is a GPG-related error that sometimes occur when accessing the Ubuntu archives; it can usually be solved by typing "sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*Release*" (without the quotes!) in a terminal
[03:09] <FireplaceTV> but when i look in the /dev directory, i see hd*, md*, ram*, and tty* devices
[03:09] <_jason> TheCreature: probably not and I've never seen that
[03:09] <mystic_portal> !tell lazyangel about deb
[03:09] <FireplaceTV> but not the drive i want to mount (from what i've gathered, it should be /dev/sda or something like that)
[03:09] <LazyAngel> !tell mystic_portal about deb
[03:10] <LazyAngel> mystic_portal: stop spamming me with that crap. if you can't help, stfu!!
[03:10] <dabaR> hehe.
[03:10] <tritium> LazyAngel: be nice, please
[03:10] <TheCreature> dabaR and _jason, so how should I fix it? ><'
[03:10] <_jason> TheCreature: see what ubotu said
[03:10] <mystic_portal> !language
[03:10] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[03:10] <LazyAngel> tritium: i'm not the one spamming with alot off bs
[03:10] <mystic_portal> geese just trying to help!
[03:11] <TheCreature> ubotu?
[03:11] <tritium> LazyAngel: they're trying to help you.  Please return the kindness
[03:11] <kbrooks> LazyAngel: LANGUAGE
[03:11] <_jason> ubotu: tell TheCreature about gpgerr
[03:11] <_jason> TheCreature: check your private messages from ubotu now
[03:11] <sonic> is there any way to find out the exact make and model of my ethernet card?
[03:11] <OrTigaS> hi! my laptop connected to ofc Network and yesterday my laptop saw other win PC... now it didn't work again? any idea why?
[03:11] <FireplaceTV> lol. i like how "STFU" triggers a bad language response
[03:11] <FireplaceTV> ;-)
[03:11] <tritium> sonic: check your dmesg and lspci output
[03:11] <intelikey> TheCreature what happens if you do "sudo apt-get install gnupg gpgkeys "   ?
[03:11] <TheCreature> _jason, ok thanks :)
[03:12] <sonic> tritium:  how do I do that, lol
[03:12] <LazyAngel> mystic_portal: you can have a look at that stuff that you pass from the bot. they arent what i was asking for. you are just writing random words hoping that will help
[03:12] <tritium> sonic: type either into a terminal
[03:12] <KR3470R0> Hiya, i need some help with Ubuntu
[03:12] <Inazad> kingspawn, hi
[03:12] <sonic> ahh, my bad
[03:12] <dabaR> KR3470R0: why did you come to #ubuntu then, we help with gentoo...
[03:13] <KR3470R0> trying to install eternal lands - but whenever i run the executable, i get Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[03:13] <KR3470R0> Xlib: No protocol specified
[03:13] <Inazad> kingspawn, how I can wrtie/read on my NTFS HD ?
[03:13] <KR3470R0> lol
[03:14] <zerboxx> Does anyone here have a laptop with a PowerCinema button??
[03:14] <TheCreature> intelikey, I'm trying it now. I think it's downloading stuff.
[03:15] <KR3470R0> any ideas?
[03:15] <Inazad> anyone know how to resolve my prob ?
[03:15] <dabaR> KR3470R0: what is the command you are running?
[03:15] <kingspawn> Inazad: you cant write to it
[03:15] <kingspawn> Inazad: you can read it, though
[03:15] <crouchingMonkey> how can i get beagle to work ? im having some issues with it
[03:15] <KR3470R0> ./el.x86.linux.bin
[03:15] <cloudnet> does mark hangout on irc ever?
[03:15] <dabaR> KR3470R0: is that in a terminal?
[03:15] <KR3470R0> yup
[03:15] <_jason> When I insert a dvd I get the following in dmesg, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11721 .  Thing is, it will randomly work if I keep try.  If anyone has any idea what is going on I'd appreciate it.  Yes, does this with other dvd's and even regular cd's and it has always done this, I know the drive sucks.  But maybe someone has some knowledge about it... please :)
[03:15] <dabaR> cloudnet: he comes to #ubuntu-meeting, I would expect.
[03:16] <cloudnet> thanks
[03:16] <cloudnet> where is the schedule?
[03:16] <dabaR> fridge.ubuntu.com
[03:17] <PwcrLinux> Hi all :)
[03:17] <cloudnet> cool :)
[03:17] <cloudnet> fridge
[03:17] <dj_> in the instlation it never asked for a root password
[03:18] <_jason> ubotu: tell dj_ about root
[03:18] <dj_> so what is the root pass to my machine
[03:18] <kingspawn> dj_: expert install?
[03:18] <PwcrLinux> _jason: Did you enable the DMA for the CDRW/DVD drive?
[03:18] <Inazad> kingspawn, no I dont have the access
[03:18] <_jason> PwcrLinux: yep
[03:18] <Inazad> kingspawn, but I see it
[03:18] <dj_> why thank you
[03:18] <dj_> KingBahamut, : no
[03:18] <kingspawn> Inazad: mount it with umask=0222
[03:18] <crouchingMonkey> need some help with my beagle problem plz :D
[03:18] <PwcrLinux> _Jason, okay I'm looking at now
[03:18] <kingspawn> dj_: the root account is disabled in ubuntu by default, when not doing an expert install
[03:18] <kingspawn> dj_: thats why.
[03:19] <Inazad> kingspawn, what's the command
[03:19] <dj_> wt
[03:19] <dj_> wtf
[03:19] <KR3470R0> so does anyone have any ideas for my prob?
[03:19] <KR3470R0> i'm pretty new to linux altogether
[03:19] <kingspawn> Inazad: eh, well, mount /dev/whatever /somewhere -o umask=0222
[03:19] <carthik> !tell dj_ about root
[03:19] <PwcrLinux> _jason: how old on your CD drive?
[03:20] <kingspawn> dj_: you can enable it, if you feel like it
[03:20] <kingspawn> dj_: or you can use sudo to do root-work
[03:20] <Inazad> kingspawn, Can I put the mounted HD into /mnt/HD_Externe
[03:20] <GfunK> Allright, I need some help configuring my PCMCIA wireless card on my laptop that's currently running Ubuntu
[03:20] <kingspawn> Inazad: yes indeed you can
[03:20] <dj_> ty
[03:20] <dj_> fixing tht little problem right now
[03:21] <GfunK> Does someone think they can help me?
[03:21] <_jason> PwcrLinux: 4 years, it's a toshiba sd-c2612 .  It's known to have problems from what I have gathered, but since it works sometimes I was hoping there could be something I could do to make it work more often
[03:21] <Trae> http://pastebin.com/647196  <-- Could someone take a look at that Networking question?  I didn't want to paste it into the channel
[03:21] <MdSalih> how can i play a dvd on linux
[03:21] <MdSalih> have mounted a dvd iso
[03:21] <MdSalih> totem doesn't want to play it
[03:21] <_jason> ubotu: tell MdSalih about dvd
[03:21] <_jason> MdSalih: try totem-xine
[03:21] <MdSalih> thanks
[03:21] <Inazad> kingspawn, but now I don't have the permission and I don't have the root' password...
[03:21] <PwcrLinux> _jason: Hmm 4 years old need to replace it, since the laser going bad..
[03:22] <theripper> !wmv
[03:22] <ubotu> I guess restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[03:22] <Inazad> kingspawn, I know what I have to do
[03:22] <Inazad> kingspawn, I brb
[03:22] <Dolm> ubotu: tell Dolm about nvidia drivers
[03:22] <kingspawn> Inazad: just do sudo before your command
[03:22] <kingspawn> Inazad: and enter your own password
[03:22] <_jason> PwcrLinux: hrmm I see
[03:22] <Inazad> kingspawn, wait me
[03:22] <mystic_portal> !tell inazad about sudo
[03:22] <thoreauputic> !tell Dolm about nvidia
[03:23] <Dolm> thanks
[03:23] <edir> this line are right? (/dev/sda1       /media/windows  ntfs    nls=utf8,umask=0222		 0       0) it's not mounting.
[03:23] <GfunK> I have drivers installed for the card using ndiswrapper, but I can't get it to actually send or receive anything
[03:23] <GfunK> Any help would be greatly appreciated
[03:23] <mystic_portal> Gfunk one sec
[03:24] <nickgarvey> !tell GfunK about wireless
[03:24] <mystic_portal> !tell Gfunk about ndiswrapper
[03:24] <mystic_portal> those two should help
[03:24] <mystic_portal> !tell Gfunk about ndis
[03:24] <PwcrLinux> _jason: vibration or laser bad, then replace new one. I've experinced with my CD drive vibrations goes bad, and I replaced the slim drive for my lappy, it's works good,  better get a sony or LG, not cheapie CD drive which is have no caches on it..
[03:24] <mystic_portal> ok
[03:25] <mystic_portal> it got quiet
[03:25] <_jason> PwcrLinux: alright cool, what's an approximate price on what it cost you for the laptop one?
[03:25] <GfunK> thanks
[03:25] <Fuku> Hiho
[03:25] <Newp> hi when i try to install on my toshiba L25-S1196 laptop it starts to boot the install then the screen just goes black... i cant seem to find anything on google about it... can anyone help?
[03:25] <obscurite> Yay I finally figured out how to get that drive back into my raid1 array
[03:25] <nickgarvey> Newp: try passing "expert noapic nolapic"
[03:25] <mystic_portal> _jason they run about 25-75 bucks
[03:25] <nickgarvey> Newp: when you boot it type that in quotes
[03:26] <nickgarvey> Newp: DON'T PUT THE QUOTES but put what I said that are in the quotes
[03:26] <PwcrLinux> _jason: it's $69.99 at local puter shop I bought it..
[03:26] <Newp> gotcha..let me try that
[03:26] <_jason> mystic_portal, PwcrLinux: thanks
[03:26] <Fuku> I have a big problem, i cant boot anymore (im on live cd now), it says something like "id spawned too fast" and cant load bin/getty
[03:26] <PwcrLinux> :)
[03:26] <Fuku> *sbin/getty
[03:27] <troy> hi does anyone know how to convert chm file into html
[03:27] <Fuku> Seomeone know seomthing about this ? i cant boot anymore and its...yes...anoying
[03:27] <mystic_portal> !tell Fuku about boot
[03:27] <Fuku> it didnt work mystic, maybe because im on live cd dont know
[03:27] <Fuku> but i didnt had the message about boot
[03:28] <GfunK> Well, I've done some readon about ndiswrapper and it does seem to work properly with this card (Belkin F5D6020 Ver. 3)
[03:28] <Fuku> !boot
[03:28] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Fuku
[03:28] <obscurite> troy - google for chm2html. there's a lot of stuff.
[03:28] <GfunK> I have a feeling the problem is just with configuration
[03:29] <Fuku> it's done
[03:29] <Newp> nickgarvey: no same black screen
[03:30] <nickgarvey> Newp: have you tried playing with the boot codes?
[03:30] <Newp> dont even know what that is :)
[03:30] <nickgarvey> Newp: perhaps expert vga=(somethingdon'trememeber) noapic nolapic
[03:30] <nickgarvey> Newp: hit f2 f3 ... and such before you hit enter
[03:31] <nickgarvey> Newp: it will give you bunch of options to type before booting
[03:31] <nickgarvey> Newp: mix and match ;)
[03:31] <Newp> tcha
[03:31] <nickgarvey> Newp: worked for me on my laptop, painful though heh
[03:31] <mystic_portal> !tell newp about installguide
[03:31] <nickgarvey> Newp: I ended up using a remote X server on my windows laptop to make a gnome like screen on my windows computer
[03:31] <Dolm> huh..synaptic is asking for my hoary disc but i dont have it..there another way to install the upgrades?
[03:32] <nickgarvey> Newp: it was as if I was right in front of the ubuntu machine, but I was able to still use windows
[03:32] <_jason> Dolm: go to settings > repostories, and disable the cdrom repository
[03:32] <ltR20> _jason you here?
[03:32] <_jason> ltR20: yes
[03:32] <ltR20> I made a new user
[03:32] <Newp> lol
[03:32] <ltR20> how do i delete the old one?
[03:33] <sgt-dyke> hi everyone.. i have a mp3 player and when i plug it in my usb.... the light on my mp3 goes on and nothing else... is there a folder somewhere or should i enter some command manually... ???
[03:33] <Dolm> thanks, you people rock
[03:33] <intelikey> hmmm i'm kinda slow.... i just learned that  "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu $(lsb_release -r) main restricted universe multiverse "  is the full list in one line.....
[03:33] <obscurite> stupid question - when i apt-get stuff, sometimes it asks me to insert the install CD. how can I stop this?
[03:33] <nickgarvey> ltR20: deluser? or userdel?
[03:33] <PwcrLinux> sgt-dyke: check in the terminal box and run lsusb
[03:33] <nickgarvey> obscurite: hey someone just asked that ;) one second
[03:34] <_jason> ltR20: I would keep it for a few days.  I found myself saying, ``oh yeah I needed that!''  and then went back and copied.  But once you decide it's time, deluser is the command you want.  And if you read 'man deluser' you will see what options you can pass so that the files get deleted too (you may or may not want to do that)
[03:34] <nickgarvey> obscurite: go to settings > repostories, and disable the cdrom repository
[03:34] <sgt-dyke> alright i'm gonna check that pwcrlinux
[03:34] <crouchingMonkey> how do i update to the new nvidia video drivers ?
[03:34] <ltR20> _jason and can i rename the new account to the old one?
[03:34] <troy> obscurite: could u give me the link
[03:34] <ltR20> because my old one was "alex" this one is "alex2" i wan't to knock off the 2:)
[03:34] <intelikey> obscurite  'gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list '   and  comment out the cdrom
[03:34] <obscurite> nickgarvey - thanks!
[03:34] <nickgarvey> :)
[03:35] <Newp> got it!
[03:35] <_jason> ltR20: yeah once, you delete the old one.  Then you need to use usermod (you'll want to change the name as well as the $HOME location)
[03:35] <Newp> linux vga=771 noapic nolapic :)
[03:35] <Newp> heh
[03:35] <sgt-dyke> maybe it's could be that pwcrlinux but ??? what should i do with it
[03:35] <sgt-dyke> Bus 004 Device 002: ID 04f1:6103 Victor Company of Japan, Ltd
[03:35] <Newp> thanks nickgarvey
[03:35] <PwcrLinux> sgt-dyke: did you see the list of device on your USB port or box?
[03:35] <mystic_portal> !tell sgt-dyke about pwcrlinux
[03:36] <nickgarvey> Newp: :) alright, thinks might be fun after they get installed, I will sho wyou this link
[03:36] <ipfw> I can't get a proxy line working in apt.conf .. anyone have an example ?
[03:36] <nickgarvey> Newp: what is the brand of your laptop?
[03:36] <Newp> toshiba
[03:36] <_jason> !apt_proxy
[03:36] <ubotu> methinks apt_proxy is for Apt via a http proxy, make a file called apt;conf in /etc/apt and put this in it...     Acquire::http::Proxy "http://PROXYADDRESS:PORT";
[03:37] <_jason> !apt_proxy =~ s/apt;conf/apt.conf/
[03:37] <ubotu> _jason: OK
[03:37] <sgt-dyke> pwcrlinux Yeah i see maybe a lot of them    Bus 004 Device 002: ID 04f1:6103 Victor Company of Japan, Ltd   (---- this one should be the right
[03:37] <MdSalih> _jason - have installed totem-xine and now can get vobs to play... how can i get it to load the whold dvd now ?
[03:37] <PwcrLinux> Sgt: okay good and then do a dmesg and look for the victor line..
[03:38] <Frogzoo> anyone had wine break on them, and uninstalling/reinstalling doesn't fix the problem? this seems to have happened after I enabled prelinking...
[03:38] <troy> hi does anyone know any package to convert chm file into html
[03:38] <_jason> MdSalih: I just tell it to play the dvd and it does, don't knwo what else you would ahve to do
[03:38] <MdSalih> __jason - how do you tell it to ? :P
[03:38] <MdSalih> i have it mounted in /media/iso
[03:38] <MdSalih> however i only have play cd/dvdrw in the file list
[03:38] <intelikey> chm anything like asp ?
[03:38] <MdSalih> that corresponds to cdrom0
[03:39] <_jason> MdSalih: hrmm right, I've never used it on a mounted...
[03:39] <nickgarvey> troy: google chm2html is what that one guy said
[03:39] <PwcrLinux> sgt-dyke: okay good and then do a dmesg and look for the victor line..
[03:39] <aajaj> hi all again
[03:39] <_jason> MdSalih: try passing it in command line
[03:39] <aajaj> im trying to run dvb with tzap
[03:39] <TheCreature> intelikey, it worked well I think. Didn't give me any errors.
[03:39] <aajaj> but i get this error
[03:40] <mystic_portal> !doyousleep?
[03:40] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, mystic_portal
[03:40] <mystic_portal> !do you sleep
[03:40] <ubotu> methinks do you sleep is I'll sleep when I'm dead
[03:40] <ipfw> _jason:  thanks man .. I had a huge apt.conf, and that 1 liner is all I really needed (dumped the rest)   :P
[03:40] <pundai> can someone explain why if i try to install libapr0-dev synaptic tells me i have to unin stall 5 billionother unrelated packages
[03:40] <MdSalih> _jason - thank you. that worked
[03:40] <sgt-dyke> pwcrlinux i found something telling me that he found my....  mp3 player
[03:40] <aajaj> ERROR: error while parsing inversion (syntax error)
[03:40] <nickgarvey> troy: http://xchm.sourceforge.net/ might be what you want, MIGHT
[03:40] <_jason> ipfw, MdSalih: np
[03:40] <nekohayo> hey people, anyone has an idea why a network interface would not be automatically be activated at startup? (doing ifdown ath0 && ifup ath0 makes it work)
[03:41] <ipfw> _jason:  you running dapper ?
[03:41] <ltR20> _jason is there a usermod gui?
[03:41] <PwcrLinux> sgt-dyke: great and did you mounted it?
[03:41] <_jason> ltR20: maybe, but I don't know of one
[03:41] <_jason> ltR20: if you aren't sure of something by reading the man, just ask
[03:41] <_jason> ipfw: nope
[03:41] <sgt-dyke> pwcrlinux no sir cause i dont know how
[03:42] <saif> hello, how can i change the name of my network interfaces??? e.g. eth2 to eth0
[03:42] <pundai> nekohayo, maybe it needs to be enabled in /etc/network/interfaces
[03:42] <TheCreature> Ok I tried apt-get update agaon and it still gives me the errors: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11725
[03:42] <theCore> troy: well, I don't know how to convert them, `xchm' can read CHM file
[03:42] <intelikey> TheCreature in linux.  no error means no error.
[03:42] <nickgarvey> TheCreature: after easy source and everything?
[03:42] <troy> nickgarvey: those are all windows programs
[03:42] <ltR20> _jason i removed my old folder, it looks like it's gone now.
[03:42] <nickgarvey> troy: I will call that a joke..
[03:42] <PwcrLinux> sgt-dyke: okay check df which /dev/ line for the mp3 player.. should be excatly same MB or GB on your player..
[03:42] <_jason> ltR20: and you deluser old_usr?
[03:42] <nickgarvey> troy: and I will suggest you read it again..
[03:42] <nekohayo> pundai: on first look, it is.. and I configured it using the gnome "network-admin"
[03:42] <ltR20> yes _jason
[03:43] <ltR20> is everything assosiated with that account deleted now?
[03:43] <pundai> nekohayo, look at dmesg
[03:43] <intelikey> troy no help but you can look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d11724 <---  doesn't look promising.
[03:43] <aajaj> anyone knows what this means when using tzap "ERROR: error while parsing inversion (syntax error)"
[03:43] <troy> theCore: yes that true but need to convert them to html for a project
[03:43] <pundai> see if theresa nything interesting in there
[03:43] <_jason> ltR20: so now you want to change the name of your new guy and move your new home folder?
[03:43] <TheCreature> intelikey, but there are errors. 3 of them: GPG Error: blab blah
[03:43] <nickgarvey> TheCreature: post your sources.lst in pastebin
[03:43] <ltR20> yes _jason.
[03:43] <ltR20> the new one is "alex2"
[03:43] <TheCreature> nickgarvey, ok
[03:43] <nekohayo> pundai: hmm nope, nothing besides the usual "ath0: no IPv6 routers present"... I had that all the time
[03:43] <ltR20> i want it to be "alex"
[03:43] <nickgarvey> what is the difference between "cat" and "more"
[03:44] <crimsun> nickgarvey: page height.
[03:44] <nickgarvey> crimsun: I don't understand
[03:44] <_jason> ltR20: usermod -d /home/alex -m -l alex alex2, should do it assuming you want him to be alex now
[03:44] <nekohayo> pundai: I would use network manager, but it seems to be currently (as of.. right now) broken... the applet doesn't appear in the tray
[03:44] <crimsun> nickgarvey: one scrolls one screenful at a time
[03:44] <_jason> ltR20: you probably want to logout before doing that
[03:44] <nekohayo> using dapper drake. stupid me, I forgot to mention
[03:44] <nickgarvey> trogdor was a man... I mean he was a dragon man.. well maybe he was just a dragon..
[03:44] <intelikey> TheCreature yeah, i see that.  i don't know why you can't gpg those things....  there is something fishy there.
[03:44] <TROGDOR42> ^_^
[03:44] <nickgarvey> crimsun: ah I see, thank you
[03:44] <sgt-dyke> pwcrlinux  No one ....
[03:44] <pundai> nekohayo, well why does it think that
[03:44] <TROGDOR42> Been a long time since I been here
[03:44] <TheCreature> nickgarvey, : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11726
[03:44] <nekohayo> pundai: think what?
[03:45] <_jason> ltR20: hrmm I just thought of something, did you give your new user sudo rights?
[03:45] <Frogzoo> nickgarvey: cat concatenates several files, more buffers screenfuls to the display - see their manpages, or just try them out - oh, and less > more
[03:45] <nickgarvey> TROGDOR42: long time no burnination...
[03:45] <ltR20> _jason, will the clipbord work w/o x?
[03:45] <TROGDOR42> Yup.
[03:45] <troy> nickgarvey: the difference is when there are a lot of line
[03:45] <nickgarvey> Frogzoo: yeah I didn't know about less until a few days ago, I was slapping myself ;)
[03:45] <pundai> nekohayo, that there is no ath0
[03:45] <ltR20> _jason, I think so.. how do i check?
[03:45] <theripper> why does bon echo doesnt work in flight6 , it works in breezy
[03:45] <PwcrLinux> sgt-dyke: go ahead paste on the other site and give me the url with ### in it..
[03:46] <PwcrLinux> !paste
[03:46] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[03:46] <ltR20> _jason, I'm able to sudo.. i was able to delete the old user w/ sudo
[03:46] <Frogzoo> theripper: for dapper -> #ubuntu+1
[03:46] <_jason> ltR20: ah right
[03:46] <mystic_portal> !patients
[03:46] <ubotu> mystic_portal: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:46] <Trae> I can't seem to get Ubuntu Flight 6 to see my wireless card at boot: It's an ACX111   Is there anything I should put on the command line at boot of the cd?  I'm sure Ubuntu Breezy would probably have the same issue...
[03:46] <_jason> ltR20: no i don't think the clipboard works without X
[03:46] <theripper> ty
[03:46] <nekohayo> pundai: no, it says no IPv6 ROUTERS present, blah blah, it's just some useless warnings... besides, my /etc/network/interfaces is properly configured (99% certain) because ifup ath0 works directly.
[03:46] <nickgarvey> TheCreature: and easysource made that for you?
[03:46] <ltR20> haha ill write it down i guess :/
[03:46] <mystic_portal> !patience
[03:46] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Please be aware there are a lot of questions, but only maybe few who might know the answer for you. Please be patient. Your attitude may determine their willingness to help you.
[03:46] <sgt-dyke> pwcrlinux #dyke
[03:47] <PwcrLinux> sgt-dyke: copy the line for your mp3 player in lsusb, dmesg and df in the pastebin
[03:47] <dabaR> I'm not going to that channel:P
[03:47] <PwcrLinux> okay
[03:47] <TheCreature> nickgarvey, easy source?  Is it that website you gave me earlier?  Icouldn't figure out how to make that work (which checkboxes to choose) :(
[03:47] <intelikey> nickgarvey see anything wrong with it ?
[03:47] <TROGDOR42> Ubuntu hates my graphics card.  Can anybody help?  I have a nVidia 6600LE.  After I install, all goes well, but when it's GUI time I get a black screen.
[03:47] <dabaR> !nvidia
[03:47] <ubotu> nvidia is, like, totally, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[03:47] <TROGDOR42> But how do I do that without a GUI?
[03:47] <nickgarvey> TheCreature: that could be the problem, want me to walk you throught it?
[03:47] <dabaR> on another computer.
[03:47] <TheCreature> nickgarvey, Yes please!! :)
[03:48] <dabaR> TheCreature: you should use my sources.list I gave you earlier, did that gpg error not go away?
[03:48] <orbin> TROGDOR42: or use a console broswer e.g. w3m
[03:48] <nickgarvey> lynx!!
[03:48] <intelikey> nickgarvey what exactly do you see wrong with TheCreature's sources list ?
[03:48] <TROGDOR42> orbin: ah, yes, good idea.
[03:48] <TheCreature> dabaR, I am using your source.list
[03:48] <eugman> nickgarvey, Links2!
[03:48] <nickgarvey> intelikey: nothing, but I figured easy source wouldn't hurt incase something is wrong and I haven't noticed
[03:48] <arrick> night all
[03:48] <nickgarvey> nice arrick
[03:48] <TROGDOR42> later
[03:49] <eugman> Hey where do I lodge a minor complaint with serpentine cd burner?
[03:49] <nickgarvey> !bugs
[03:49] <sethk> eugman, you make a great straight man, but this is a family channel  :)
[03:49] <_jason> !malone
[03:49] <orbin> eugman: depends how minor.  maybe file a bug
[03:49] <TheCreature> dabaR, nope. I replaced the text in my sources list w/ the one you gave me and it still gives me that error.
[03:49] <_jason> !bug
[03:49] <ubotu> bugs are reported to https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs
[03:50] <nickgarvey> intelikey: do you know what might be wrong with TheCreature's apt-get errors?
[03:50] <eugman> Well it doesn't seem to notice my usb cd burner. I don't kow if that counts as a bub or a non feature.
[03:50] <nickgarvey> eugman: neither...
[03:51] <intelikey> nickgarvey i had him update gnupg and clean out /var  but it's still doing it... idk.
[03:51] <Pupeno> How do I make thunderbird check for mail in all my imap folders without having to enter one by one ?
[03:51] <nickgarvey> eugman: it's not that programs job to autodetect
[03:51] <eugman> Well why does k3b see it but not serpentine?
[03:51] <ignacio_> hi
[03:51] <nickgarvey> eugman: mm I don't know anything about that program, should know what linux tells it is there
[03:51] <ignacio_> i need some help with ubuntu
[03:52] <TROGDOR42> Ok
[03:52] <nickgarvey> ignacio_: you are in the right place :)
[03:52] <ignacio_> thanks :D
[03:52] <ltr20> _jason it says directory exsist or somthing.
[03:52] <TROGDOR42> Yes, you are.
[03:52] <intelikey> nickgarvey i also checked the sources list   one of the first things i did.   at that time  apt was erroring out.  now apt is working   just giving gpg warnings.
[03:52] <ignacio_> i wanna know ere i can download themes for ubuntu
[03:52] <TROGDOR42> Here or the message boards, but this is faster.
[03:52] <keithhhh> Does anyone know of an easy to reinstall GRUB?
[03:52] <ignacio_> im starting with linux
[03:52] <TROGDOR42> www.gnome-look.org
[03:52] <_jason> ltr20: I though you said you deleted the old directory?
[03:52] <ltr20> I did.
[03:52] <eugman> ignacio there is also an art manager in the repositories.
[03:52] <nickgarvey> intelikey: did he do all of his keys? when I did easysource I had to go though all that
[03:52] <ltr20> the only folder i see is alex2
[03:53] <nickgarvey> ignacio_: what kind of things do you need help on?
[03:53] <_jason> ltr20: ok what does ls /home say now?
[03:53] <ltr20> alex2
[03:53] <TROGDOR42> Pick your theme from there then download it.
[03:53] <intelikey> nickgarvey i gave the commands but you ought to dubble check.
[03:53] <TROGDOR42> ignacio_: got that?
[03:53] <nickgarvey> TheCreature: you still even here?
[03:53] <ignacio_>  nickgarvey: i dowload gnome themes from the internet but i cant install it
[03:53] <_jason> ltr20: and you typed -d /home/alex ? not alex2?
[03:53] <TheCreature> nickgarvey, Yup. I'm here :)
[03:54] <nickgarvey> alrighty
[03:54] <ltr20> this is the exact command i wrote down
[03:54] <TROGDOR42> ignacio: drag the themes to the theme window.
[03:54] <ltr20> usermod -d /home/alex/ -m -l alex alex2
[03:54] <TROGDOR42> ignacio_: drag the themes to the theme window
[03:54] <nickgarvey> ignacio_: system > preferences > theme I assume
[03:54] <nickgarvey> I don't know anything about themes though
[03:54] <nickgarvey> TheCreature: ok could you give me the pastebin link again?
[03:54] <TROGDOR42> Yeah, I find the default theme sexy enough.
[03:54] <nickgarvey> TheCreature: nevermind got it
[03:54] <Christopher> hello everyone
[03:54] <ignacio_> wait im gonna doit..
[03:55] <TheCreature> It's http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11726
[03:55] <TROGDOR42> ignacio_: ok
[03:55] <Christopher> I need someone to show me how to install applications
[03:55] <nickgarvey> !apt
[03:55] <ubotu> apt is probably http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowTo/ or http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#apt-howto
[03:55] <nickgarvey> Christopher: go there, should help a lot
[03:55] <intelikey> ltr20 -m ?
[03:55] <Christopher> ok thanks
[03:55] <TROGDOR42> Christopher: From the internet or from the repositories?
[03:55] <Christopher> internet
[03:55] <nickgarvey> intelikey: ew, unknown error
[03:56] <troy> i cant believe the knowledge on the #ebooks channel on undernet. is legal?
[03:56] <nickgarvey> intelikey: yeah I have no idea what he did
[03:56] <ltr20> ?
[03:56] <Christopher> im trying to install wine hq
[03:56] <TROGDOR42> Christopher: What are you trying to install now?
[03:56] <intelikey> ltr20 man usermod doesn't list a  -m switch ?
[03:56] <nickgarvey> !wine
[03:56] <nickgarvey> !tell Christopher about wine
[03:56] <TROGDOR42> Christopher: Yeah, that's in APT.
[03:56] <_jason> ltr20, intelikey: -m should move his old $HOME contents to the new location afaik
[03:56] <kingspawn> Christopher: System->Administrative tools->Synaptic
[03:56] <Christopher> thats a bunch
[03:56] <Christopher> *thanks
[03:56] <kingspawn> Christopher: a nice frontend for lots of packages and stuff
[03:57] <intelikey> _jason undocumented switch ?
[03:57] <Christopher> thanks
[03:57] <ltr20> jason so should i try again?
[03:57] <_jason> intelikey: it's in man, mentioned in -l paragraph
[03:57] <ltr20> maybe typed it wrong
[03:57] <ltr20> what's the command again?
[03:58] <_jason> intelikey: I mean -d ..
[03:58] <_jason> ltr20: you are doing this as a different user?  maybe that's necessary
[03:58] <nickgarvey> TheCreature: try ntpdate
[03:58] <TheCreature> nickgarvey, ok.
[03:58] <intelikey> _jason hah so it is...  sorry my bad.
[03:58] <TROGDOR42> God I love the OSS community.
[03:58] <ignacio_> look i download this type of theme from a page of genome /home/ignacio/Nxo/Documents/Themes/GDM-GDMLamp.tar.gz
[03:58] <_jason> ltr20: usermod -d /home/alex/ -m -l alex alex2
[03:58] <ignacio_>  and when install it tells me that is a invalid format
[03:59] <TheCreature> nickgarvey, creature@Tern:~$ sudo ntpdate
[03:59] <TheCreature> 27 Mar 19:58:10 ntpdate[12975] : no servers can be used, exiting
[03:59] <ignacio_> TROGDOR42: im gonna try the page thaat u give me know
[03:59] <intelikey> _jason ltr20 sorry for all the confusion.    carry on.
[03:59] <ltr20> _jason that's what i put.
[03:59] <Madpilot> ignacio_, GDM themes are for the Gnome login manager, not the desktop
[03:59] <nickgarvey> TheCreature: mm I was thinking your keys might have expirede
[03:59] <ignacio_> o so i cant used for ubuntu ?
[03:59] <felipe_> which is the meta-package that installs all the languages to start programing?
[03:59] <_jason> ltr20: hold on let me try this on one of my users
[04:00] <intelikey> should be done as root btw ltr20
[04:00] <TheCreature> nickgarvey, keys? What keys? o.0?
[04:00] <nickgarvey> TheCreature: the gpg keys
[04:00] <Madpilot> ignacio_, it can be, but it's just not a desktop theme, that's all
[04:00] <ltr20> intel, sudo?
[04:00] <ltr20> i did a sudo command before
[04:00] <ltr20> the line
[04:00] <_jason> ltr20: it worked fine, I know have an alex user :)
[04:00] <ltr20> i mean on the same line
[04:00] <ignacio_> madpilot: o thanks..
[04:00] <nickgarvey> TheCreature:  Check out 'man apt-get' for information on how to install other server keys to avoid the warning.
[04:01] <findik1> related firestarter I have 1 question
[04:01] <ignacio_> madpilot: how i start using phyton > ?
[04:01] <_jason> ltr20: now*, are you doing this with a user other than alex2?
[04:01] <orbin> felipe_: no package grabs all the languages.  that would be stupid
[04:01] !lilo:*! new policy paragraph on http://freenode.net/policy.shtml#unlawful .... basically, this just lays out an aspect of freenode concentrating on the positive stuff
[04:01] <Madpilot> ignacio_, go System->Administration->Login Screen Setup if you want to use GDM themes
[04:01] <ltr20> no i did it on alex2
[04:01] <obscurite> anyone know of ubuntu qmail packages?
[04:01] <_jason> ignacio_: type 'python'
[04:01] <ltr20> should i login to a guest account and do it?
[04:01] <_Dez> does this make since to anyone.. in install ubuntu and my wifi card works.... i install ubuntu server and my wificard isnt even detected
[04:01] <saif> went through hell to find out how to install tomcat and eclipse on ubuntu a year ago, today, it's in the reps! nice! :) me happy! can't wait for jboss to get there as well! ;)
[04:01] <TheCreature> nickgarvey, i see. But I did a thingie called "sudo apt-get install gnupg gpgkeys
[04:01] <TheCreature> " and it ran w/o errors..
[04:01] <intelikey> ltr20 guest cant sudo
[04:01] <_jason> ltr20: try making a temporary new account and give him admin group and try it
[04:01] <felipe_> orbin, Ok but theres one that installs the ones most commonly used.
[04:02] !lilo:*! I may be phrasing that poorly....hmmm
[04:02] <PwcrLinux> which the filesystem for the mp3 player by the mount command?
[04:02] <orbin> felipe_: you're probably talking about build-essential
[04:02] <ltr20> okay thanks
[04:02] <ltr20> brb
[04:02] <nickgarvey> TheCreature: yes but you need to register them, look at the man page
[04:02] <Frogzoo> prelink -u  /usr/lib/wine
[04:02] <Frogzoo> /usr/sbin/prelink.bin: cannot open ELF file: I/O error: raw read
[04:02] <Madpilot> ignacio_, I don't program, you'll have to ask someone else about Python
[04:02] <nickgarvey> ignacio_: pick me pick me
[04:02] !lilo:*! the thing that's always struck me about free software, the enabling thing, is that it's something anyone can do.... a form of social change that anybody can do
[04:03] <Eleaf> muh
[04:03] <nickgarvey> ignacio_: sudo apt-get install python
[04:03] <TheCreature> nickgarvey, which section of the man page?
[04:03] !lilo:*! the new policy paragraph just emphasizes that we're here to do that, rather than to trade warez and credit card numbers *grin*
[04:03] <nickgarvey> ignacio_: then simply type python to get into the interpreter,
[04:03] <nickgarvey> TheCreature: no idea haven't read it
[04:03] <nickgarvey> TheCreature: I did it a long time ago
[04:03] <nickgarvey> TheCreature: like aw eek or two ago
[04:03] <nickgarvey> !tell me about enter
[04:03] <TheCreature> I see
[04:04] <ignacio_> madpilot.> thank anyway!:D in login screen setup, y have to go to the themed greeter?
[04:04] <ignacio_> Jason:> ok sorry :S
[04:04] <intelikey> install pythan..... you can't remove pythan on a ubuntu system.
[04:04] <Dolm> !tell me about the meaning of life
[04:04] <Madpilot> ignacio_, yes - just a second
[04:04] <Madpilot> !42
[04:04] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Madpilot
[04:04] <_jason> intelikey: you weren't kidding about the typos today
[04:04] <nickgarvey> heh
[04:04] <TheCreature> nickgarvey, do you think if I re-install ubuntu it might fix the problem?
[04:04] <intelikey> no... jason  i wasn't
[04:04] <nickgarvey> TheCreature: shouldn't need too, its not a problem
[04:04] <felipe_> orbin, yeah those.
[04:04] <_jason> ignacio_: sorry for what ?
[04:04] <_Dez> !rt2500
[04:04] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, _Dez
[04:05] <nickgarvey> TheCreature: http://www.dewinter.com/gnupg_howto/english/GPGMiniHowto.html
[04:05] <kingspawn> TheCreature: a reinstall might fix anything, but if you can fix it you will have learned much more
[04:05] <Madpilot> ignacio_, 3rd item at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuEyeCandy should help you w/ GDM themes
[04:05] <kingspawn> TheCreature: but i feel you, it can be quite the pain
[04:05] <nickgarvey> mm I can't wait till dapper
[04:06] <TheCreature> I'm begining to hate linux with passion.
[04:06] <saif> TheCreature, been there! i survived! :)
[04:06] <intelikey> TheCreature yep you're hooked.
[04:06] <intelikey> :)
[04:07] <_Dez> does this make since to anyone.. in install ubuntu and my wifi card works.... i install ubuntu server and my wificard isnt even detected
[04:07] <intelikey> TheCreature you can ignore the gpg errors.  assuming it's just a desktop box and nothing critical.
[04:07] <alex_> _jason, it worked.. thanks.
[04:07] <_jason> alex_: np
[04:07] <nickgarvey> TheCreature: yeah, the W: in front means warning, not error
[04:08] <alex_> _jason, i won't be installing KDE anytime soon.
[04:08] <Stormx2> _Dez: Possible. Server isn't so robust with hardware support. Why are you running ubuntu server from a laptop anyway? :P
[04:08] <_jason> alex_: I hope you enjoyed your kde experience :)
[04:08] <TheCreature> intelikey, Really? Ok.
[04:08] <alex_> I'll try it once KDE4 comes out.
[04:08] <TheCreature> Thanks, guys :)
[04:08] <orbin> would !gpgerr be relevant?
[04:08] <_Dez> Stormx2 b/c my laptop cant handle gnome/kde
[04:08] <nickgarvey> what are the 3 keys to make that little skull that kills anything you click?
[04:08] <intelikey> TheCreature i told you that 5 hours ago, when you ranted about never getting any help   :)
[04:09] <DBO> _Dez, you can remove GNOME/KDE from the normal install and replace them with something like XFCE
[04:09] <TruckerMan> please dont require nick registration here
[04:09] <Stormx2> _Dez: Ah ok
[04:09] <TruckerMan> i hate that
[04:09] <_jason> nickgarvey: well xkill is the prog, didn't know there was a default shortcut
[04:09] <nickgarvey> TruckerMan: you are lucky, it's not
[04:09] <TruckerMan> my humble request
[04:09] <nickgarvey> _jason: maybe its kde only
[04:09] <TruckerMan> yeah, i sure am
[04:09] <alex_> how do i give myself permessions to locked folders?
[04:09] <alex_> I moved folders over and now they are locked.
[04:09] <TheCreature> intelikey, Yeah but I got them again and it said "error" after it And I'm like "oh no". Plus other stuff doesn't work.
[04:10] <ddonky> alex_ - chown them
[04:10] <orbin> alex_: uhoh, what did you move?
[04:10] <DBO> alex_, "sudo chown USER:GROUP"
[04:10] <intelikey> TheCreature what "other stuff" ?
[04:10] <_jason> alex_: your home stuff?  do a chown -R $USER:$USER $HOME
[04:10] <OrTigaS> how to add a printer....printer is connected to a LAN....
[04:11] <intelikey> alex_ sudo that ^
[04:11] <TruckerMan> anybody know why hotplug keeps freezing on bootup?
[04:11] <intelikey> if you don't own it you can't change it.
[04:11] <DBO> oh yeah, I forgot to add a path to my command, duh...
[04:11] <TheCreature> intelikey, well I'm trying to install Umbrella (or whatever that UML editor thingie is called) and other stuff and it says "You have to be in advanced mode or it can't be installed" so I go to Synaptic and try to install it from there, and it won't let me 'cause it says there are dependancies. I try to install dependancies and it says dependancies have dependancies and I can't find the other dependancies.
[04:12] <alex_> thx
[04:12] <TruckerMan> anybody know why hotplug keeps freezing on bootup?
[04:13] <Madpilot> TheCreature, if you can't install stuff that's in Synaptic, it sounds like you've got a messed up sources.list - can you pastebin that for us?
[04:13] <nickgarvey> _jason: "xkill already works standard in KDE with crtl+alt+escape"
[04:13] <intelikey> TheCreature ???  uml-utilities - User-mode Linux (utility programs)   ?
[04:13] <_jason> nickgarvey: oh
[04:13] <intelikey> what uml ?
[04:14] <TheCreature> intelikey, nope. I thought UML stood for Unified Modeling Language?
[04:14] <nickgarvey> to wikipedia!
[04:14] <TheCreature> Making class level diagrams for programming and stuff...
[04:14] <sneex> TheCreature, it does
[04:14] <intelikey> ah ok.  what's name of the app ?
[04:15] <TheCreature> nickgarvey, And the icon looks like it too. It's got a stickfigure and an oval like a use-case diagram..
[04:15] <intelikey> !info Umbrella
[04:15] <orbin> it's umbrello
[04:15] <TheCreature> And other stuff: like a python gui editor didn't install either for the same reason
[04:15] <TruckerMan> anybody know why hotplug keeps freezing on bootup?
[04:15] <orbin> i prefer dia
[04:15] <intelikey> !info  umbrello
[04:15] <ubotu> umbrello: (UML modelling tool and code generator), section universe/devel, is optional. Version: 4:3.4.3-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1811 kB, Installed size: 5160 kB
[04:15] <crimsun> TruckerMan: what sound card do you have?
[04:15] <TruckerMan> dunno, its a laptop
[04:16] <intelikey> TheCreature what happens when you do  "sudo apt-get install  umbrello "  ?
[04:16] <TheCreature> OMG! It generates code too?  Man! Now I'm really mad I can't install it.
[04:16] <sneex> =)
[04:16] <nickgarvey> TheCreature: have you tried command line apt-get?
[04:17] <TheCreature> omg! I just did that and I think it's installing it..
[04:17] <ignacio_> nickgarvey:> i send a message
[04:17] <Auckland_Pig> ubotu tell me about file permissions
[04:17] <intelikey> your welcome TheCreature
[04:18] <InnerFIRE> !wine
[04:18] <TruckerMan> anybody know a smaller ubuntu channel
[04:18] <TruckerMan> ?
[04:18] <TheCreature> Thank you! ^_^ So I should do that for all of the packages that give me the stupid error?
[04:18] <DBO> TheCreature, you could certainly try it
[04:19] <intelikey> TheCreature seeing that gpg is hosed you will probably have to use apt-get in place of synaptic,  yes.
[04:19] <TruckerMan> why so many people here and no real raport?
[04:19] <alex_> where can i manage custom startup commands
[04:19] <TheCreature> Ok. I will. :)
[04:19] <TruckerMan> its like a weird sleep deprived vibe in here
[04:19] <crimsun> alex_: man update-rc.d
[04:19] <TruckerMan> maybe its just me
[04:19] <InnerFIRE> lol
[04:19] <TheCreature> thanks again, guys! ^_^
[04:19] <alex_> crimsun is there a gui to this?
[04:20] <alex_> i remember seeing one
[04:20] <Christopher> Hey guys I needed help with one more thing. I cant listen to audio. The player is all messed up
[04:20] <crimsun> alex_: BUM?
[04:20] <saif> TruckerMan, probably no 1 knows what the problem is! :)
[04:20] <Madpilot> TruckerMan, must be just you, this is pretty normal for #ubuntu :P
[04:20] <_jason> alex_: do you just want stuff tos tartup when you login?
[04:20] <alex_> Yes
[04:20] <alex_> like "nvdia-settings"
[04:20] <intelikey> TruckerMan looks normal to me.
[04:20] <saif> TruckerMan, i certainly donno y hot plug keeps hanging!
[04:20] <Madpilot> Christopher, are you trying to play mp3s?
[04:20] <Christopher> yes
[04:20] <zac1333> hi
[04:20] <_jason> alex_: then use system > preferences > sessions, I don't know about putting nvidia-settings in there.  Why do you want to do that?
[04:21] <intelikey> TruckerMan irc.efnet.net #ubuntu    much smaller.
[04:21] <alex_> YUp, thanks.
[04:21] <Madpilot> Christopher, have you enabled MP3 support? Ubuntu can't deal with them by default
[04:21] <TruckerMan> ok
[04:21] <Christopher> no
[04:21] <Christopher> how do i do that
[04:21] <TruckerMan> ok
[04:21] <orbin> TruckerMan: disable it maybe?
[04:21] <Madpilot> !tell Christopher about mp3
[04:21] <TruckerMan> orbin, i thougt about that
[04:21] <DBO> Auckland_Pig, it makes the file executable (if that is what you are talking about)
[04:21] <TruckerMan> i wanna disable alot of stuff actually
[04:21] <Christopher> thanks
[04:21] <Christopher> brb
[04:21] <alex_> _jason, what does the order mean?
[04:21] <TruckerMan> but afraid i might dis too much
[04:22] <alex_> it says "50" for order.
[04:22] <_jason> alex_: the order it gets started afaik
[04:22] <ignacio_> madpilot:> i install the themes were u tell me but is only the begginin windows that change
[04:22] <Auckland_Pig> DBO: but can you give a user an r permission and deny him the x permission?
[04:22] <Madpilot> ignacio_, that's all that GDM controls, is the login window
[04:22] <DBO> Auckland_Pig, yes
[04:22] <fak3r> I'm looking at the Mactel Mini - graphics is an ATI - will the Linux driver work with it in Ubuntu?
[04:23] <intelikey> TruckerMan do one diss  and  reboot...   hehhe takes hours but you know what borked when it fails to boot....   lol
[04:23] <ignacio_> Madpilot:> thanks
[04:23] <Auckland_Pig> dbo: can you give a user the r permission and deny him from creating a copy of the file with x permission?
[04:23] <TruckerMan> tee hee hee
[04:23] <ignacio_> Madpilot im gonna see the page that u give me
[04:23] <TruckerMan> naw
[04:23] <DBO> Auckland_Pig, nope
[04:23] <Madpilot> ignacio_, for desktop themes, you need GTK+ and Metacity themes
[04:24] <alex_> what is metacity?
[04:24] <AdventChild> Madpilot, thoreauputic, DBO, whats up?
[04:24] <nil> Auckland_Pig: if the user can read, he can make a copy, his own copy
[04:24] <TruckerMan> i'm gnna download a bunch of howtos and read em tommorrow while im waiting for a load
[04:24] <ignacio_> Madpilot: from were i get that ?
[04:24] <nil> Auckland_Pig: and on his own copy, he can set the permissions ha wants
[04:24] <DBO> Auckland_Pig, unless you chroot the user to a folder that is masked to prevent executable files
[04:24] <Trae> could someone help me with ipforwarding stuff?  I already have: sysctl -w net.ipv4.ip_foward=1   done.  I have wireless laptop (that I'm on now)  10.10.0.9 [eth0]   I have eth1 on said laptop I'm hooked up to a hub.  want to plug desktop into same hub and be able to be on the same network.
[04:24] <Madpilot> !tell ignacio_ about themes
[04:24] <Madpilot> hi AdventChild
[04:24] <intelikey> Auckland_Pig if they can read they can make their own copies.   but you don't need read to exec.
[04:24] <TruckerMan> is there a faster less resource using windows manager than gnome?
[04:25] <nil> DBO: ah... yes... tricky :9
[04:25] <nil> :)
[04:25] <sethk> TruckerMan, several
[04:25] <Madpilot> TruckerMan, there's several - XFCE seems pretty complete but lighter
[04:25] <DBO> nil, yes it is, and only useful for SSH environments
[04:25] <sethk> TruckerMan, blackbox and fluxbox are probably the most popular
[04:25] <nickgarvey> I win, fear my ctrl alt esc power
[04:25] <nil> DBO: you mean for things liken rssh ?
[04:25] <fak3r> TruckerMan: Xfce4 is the compromise between Gnome and the sparse Fluxbox (I prefer Flux, but the latest Xfce4 is really nice)
[04:26] <Auckland_Pig> oh thanks everyone.... me am new to linux and trying to learn about these things....
[04:26] <sethk> TruckerMan, the "boxes" are quite similar to each other; people seem to feel fluxbox is a bit better, but I haven't used them enough myself to have a preference for one box over the other
[04:26] <AdventChild> is thoreauputic here?
[04:26] <nil> Auckland_Pig: so, basically, the answer is no
[04:26] <OrTigaS> hi i just open a link to listen to an internet radio it only say playing but no sounds? any idea why, and how to works?
[04:26] <thoreauputic> AdventChild: sort of, why?
[04:26] <fak3r> sethk: also Openbox - they had a new release pretty recently
[04:26] <ignacio_> madpilot: thanks im gonna try it..:S
[04:26] <Auckland_Pig> thnks nil
[04:26] <sethk> fak3r, didn't know about that one.  I'll have to try it.
[04:26] <Auckland_Pig> *thanks
[04:26] <lutra> alright...i got NetworkManager to work
[04:26] <orbin> TruckerMan: if you use your touchpad a lot, fluxbox is a real pain to use b/c it's heavily menu-driven
[04:26] <DBO> nil, yes
[04:27] <AdventChild> thoreauputic, just wondering...  wassup? i have to run this on my *gag* win2k box... :(
[04:27] <sethk> fak3r, is it in synaptic?
[04:27] <Christopher> I hate ubuntu..its too complicated for me
[04:27] <fak3r> sethk: also I run Blackbox at work...on my XP laptop.  No choice on the OS, but Blackbox helps
[04:27] <ignacio_> madpilot: ill try
[04:27] <Madpilot> ignacio_, my favourite themes site is gnome-look.org - have a look there
[04:27] <Christopher> im switching to windows
[04:27] <AdventChild> !lart Christopher
[04:27] <nickgarvey> Christopher: your welcome for the help
[04:27] <thoreauputic> AdventChild: oh - sorry kind of busy elsewhere ATM
[04:27] <fak3r> sethk: yep, also try obconf -- a configuration editor for it.  comes with some nice stock themes
[04:27] <Christopher> thanks
[04:27] <nil> Christopher: if you insist, you may enjoy it soon
[04:27] <AdventChild> np
[04:27] <sethk> fak3r, interesting.  I usually run an X server on the pc, but I do almost all my work on one NIX or another
[04:27] <OrTigaS> hi i just open a link to listen to an internet radio it only say playing but no sounds? any idea why, and how to works?
[04:27] <intelikey> TruckerMan twm is installed with xorg  but you wont like it.    fvwm  xfce4  are good.  you might like them   fluxbox .... lots of gui crap.   but you could just remove xorg and go comando  CLI  :)
[04:27] <TruckerMan> ok, Now if i change windows manager, will that affect my hardware settings and what not? for instance, my wireless card, took some time getting it to work.
[04:27] <DBO> Christopher, linux is not for everyone, best of luck with windows
[04:28] <Christopher> take care everyone...thanks for all of the support
[04:28] <nil> Christopher: think about how many years it took to learn to use Windows like you know it now
[04:28] <nickgarvey> Christopher: might want to try a little OSX too
[04:28] <nickgarvey> Christopher: I hear thats pretty good if you are in love with your mouse ;)
[04:28] <ignacio_> madpilot:> thanks! i going to visit
[04:28] <Christopher> :)
[04:28] <fak3r> sethk: yep, I have X running on it too, but most of the time I just run Blackbox and then Putty into the servers...but yeah, running X you can get xterm going - nicer than cygwin
[04:28] <nil> Christopher: it's a matter of habits
[04:28] <OrTigaS> hi
[04:28] <Christopher> ah
[04:28] <Madpilot> TruckerMan, most of your hardware settings should be OK
[04:29] <Christopher> its that the only problem I have is installing applications
[04:29] <sethk> fak3r, definitely.  is obconf just for openbox, or for any of the 'boxes?
[04:29] <fak3r> Anyone want to talk about MacIntel Minis and graphic drivers? (or other drivers) for Ubuntu?
[04:29] <_jason> ubotu: tell Christopher about synaptic
[04:29] <fak3r> sethk think it's just for open
[04:29] <TruckerMan> Thats another thing i've been wondering about, How can i start ubuntu in command line without loading a window manager first?
[04:29] <Christopher> no matter how many faq's i look at i cant figure it out
[04:29] <sethk> fak3r, ok, thanks.
[04:29] <_jason> Christopher: synaptic is easier than windows imo
[04:29] <nickgarvey> Christopher: quite the contrary for me, it is SO easy for me, my favorite part of linux
[04:29] <DBO> TruckerMan, you have to set your default runlevel to 1
[04:29] <ignacio_> madpilot: from there i download the themes and i install it in system/preferences/themes?
[04:29] <OrTigaS> like me i'm a newbie lots of problems ecounter in this Linux but still i like because i learn different...
[04:29] <nomasteryoda> TruckerMan, you add the init 1 to the boot line
[04:29] <intelikey> Christopher don't let them trap you.  run !   run back to M$ while you still can.   cause if you stay in linux very long you can never go back.
[04:29] <sethk> Christopher, specifically, what do you run into trouble with?
[04:29] <nickgarvey> Christopher: everything is in the repos just waiting for me... just need to type apt-get install somefile and its there, all set up
[04:30] <OrTigaS> hi i just open a link to listen to an internet radio it only say playing but no sounds? any idea why, and how to works?
[04:30] <TruckerMan> init 1 to boot line hmm
[04:30] <nickgarvey> touches something special inside of me..
[04:30] <TruckerMan> ok
[04:30] <TruckerMan> i'll check that out
[04:30] <Christopher> nickgarver: really
[04:30] <TruckerMan> apreciate it channel, i got some new stuff to look into
[04:30] <TruckerMan> thanks
[04:30] <thoreauputic> !tell Christopher about repos
[04:30] <intelikey> TruckerMan init is not needed.   just    1
[04:31] <nil> Christopher: maybe the only problem is to kfind which software you need
[04:31] <OrTigaS> any idea why i can't listen to internet radios?
[04:31] <TruckerMan> runlevel 1 gotcha
[04:31] <nil> OrTigaS: firewall?
[04:31] <nickgarvey> Christopher: well my second favorite thing is the easy install, the wonderful and loving community is my favorite such as the good people in #ubuntu
[04:31] <Christopher> im trying to install firefox(which ive tried 10003402 times)
[04:31] <nickgarvey> !hug
[04:31] <ubotu> nickgarvey: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:31] <DBO> and for looping fun, set your default runlevel to 6 (dont really do this, please)
[04:31] <OrTigaS> nil no
[04:31] <nickgarvey> !ff1.5
[04:31] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[04:31] <nickgarvey> !bot snack
[04:31] <ubotu> :)
[04:31] <OrTigaS> its open
[04:32] <Christopher> yes they are good people
[04:32] <thoreauputic> Christopher: it's already installed ...
[04:32] <fak3r> nil: does sound work at all?  Sometimes it's just muted
[04:32] <nil> OrTigaS: which soft do you use?
[04:32] <thoreauputic> Christopher: you mean FF 1.5?
[04:32] <nil> fak3r: it's for OrTigaS, not for me :)
[04:32] <aajaj> need help xine
[04:32] <alex_> _jason you still there?
[04:32] <fak3r> nil: :)
[04:32] <nickgarvey> !tell aajaj about xine
[04:32] <OrTigaS> nil,  already installes mplayer. mozilla-,player
[04:32] <fak3r> OrTigaS: does sound work at all, sometimes it's just muted
[04:33] <aajaj> i get this error: couldn't find demux for >stdin://mpeg2<
[04:33] <nil> OrTigaS: did you try a simple mp3 streaming bradio on xmms?
[04:33] <Christopher> yes
[04:33] <Christopher> ff 1.5
[04:33] <nil> !tell me about you
[04:33] <OrTigaS> fak3r,  i tried the CNN video news and the wimp its all working
[04:33] <OrTigaS> its only the AM/FM radio i tried now and its not working
[04:33] <fak3r> OrTigaS: ok, what app isn't playing the stream?
[04:33] <aajaj> anyone?
[04:33] <intelikey> !vlc
[04:33] <ubotu> hmm... vlc is a video/audio player that supports almost everything - See http://www.videolan.org/ for more information (VLC is in the repos)
[04:34] <Christopher> I dont knoe
[04:34] <Christopher> *know
[04:34] <lutra> vlc is awesome
[04:34] <OrTigaS> any idea
[04:35] <zac1333> i second that, for vlc
[04:35] <Christopher> Im not sure whether or not I should switch to windows, use another distrobution, or stay with ubuntu
[04:35] <intelikey> i don't know about awesome.... but it's  some awe.
[04:35] <nil> Christopher: when did you start ubuntu?
[04:35] <Christopher> a day or two ago
[04:35] <Christopher> im a n00b
[04:35] <OrTigaS> Christopher, I tried almost 7 distros and this Ubuntu works like a charm with me :)
[04:35] <intelikey> Christopher go to windows.   go while you can.
[04:36] <nickgarvey> Christopher: much to learn my friend, you didn't learn windows in a day either
[04:36] <nil> Christopher: I suggest to try a little more
[04:36] <Christopher> true
[04:36] <intelikey> Christopher i'm telling you linux is addictive.
[04:36] <DBO> Christopher, meh, the main reason to learn linux is so you can be superior to all those windows losers
[04:36] <Christopher> yeah
[04:36] <OrTigaS> ei about my Q :)
[04:36] <NxO> madpilot:> the GDM themes can be dowload for ubuntu ?
[04:36] <Christopher> that one of the reasons i switched to ubuntu
[04:36] <nil> Christopher: and keep both Windows and ubuntu on the computer, even if you want to go back to windows
[04:37] <TruckerMan> is XFCE sposed to be installable thru synaptic?
[04:37] <Christopher> nah
[04:37] <theripper> what does "request purging" do in the updater?
[04:37] <Christopher> I thought ubuntu would be more efficient
[04:37] <Christopher> dont get me wrong...it is
[04:37] <nil> theripper: it removes the configuration files
[04:37] <VR_> ubuntu is more efficient than windows
[04:37] <fak3r> TruckerMan - that's the easiest way -- after installing logout of gnome, then at the login window choose the xfce session and login
[04:37] <nil> theripper: excuse, misunderstanding
[04:37] <Christopher> im just saying that everything you do revolves areound the terminal
[04:37] <VR_> Christopher: isn't that wonderful?!
[04:37] <DBO> Christopher, yes, the terminal is a powerful tool
[04:37] <intelikey> Christopher linux is fo geeks with thick glasses and no hob
[04:38] <VR_> Christopher: you can manipulate the hell out of your OS!
[04:38] <intelikey> err job
[04:38] <nickgarvey> intelikey: miss your meds today?
[04:38] <fak3r> Christopher: not really, it's there if you need it, but with Ubuntu you don't *have* to use it...ever I think
[04:38] <TruckerMan> fak3r, ok, then i gotta setup repositories i guess cuz im not gettin anything on a search
[04:38] <DBO> intelikey, are you making fun of me because Im employed and have glasses?
[04:38] <bassmoy> ubuntu spanish?
[04:38] <DBO> erm, dont have glasses
[04:38] <nickgarvey> (kidding don't beat me p)
[04:38] <nickgarvey> !es
[04:38] <Christopher> its like saying that about ms-dos
[04:38] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:38] <theripper> nil: so it removes config files or all files that were selected?
[04:38] <PwcrLinux> Anyone, sgt-dyke's mp3 player didn't work to be mounted, and he wanted to help with mp3 player in the /dev/sdb line
[04:38] <fak3r> TruckerMan: did you search for xfce?
[04:38] <Christopher> you can run windows without ever haveing to look at dos
[04:38] <TruckerMan> yep
[04:38] <Madpilot> NxO, yes
[04:39] <TruckerMan> whats wrong with dos?
[04:39] <nil> theripper: no, I didn't notice that you said "in the updater"
[04:39] <fak3r> Truckerman: hmmm...could be in universe then
[04:39] <intelikey> nickgarvey DBO yall muxt have missed the "good cop, bad cop" statement....
[04:39] <Christopher> If it wasnt for the problem with installing applications I would be fine
[04:39] <nickgarvey> intelikey: yup, I will scroll
[04:39] <Christopher> I just cant seem to figure it out
[04:39] <DBO> intelikey, no, I saw it, I was just making a joke
[04:39] <NxO> madpilot: im ignacio i change nick
[04:39] <fak3r> Christopher: you can do almost everything (install wise) in Synaptic, right?
[04:39] <nil> theripper: "purge" removes the config files in apt-get, aptitude, synaptic,
[04:39] <Christopher> no
[04:39] <Madpilot> NxO, ah, OK - was away from the computer for a bit
[04:39] <VR_> Christopher: it's simple to install stuff
[04:39] <Christopher> i dont know how to use synap
[04:39] <Madpilot> !tell Christopher about synaptic
[04:39] <intelikey> DBO but you kept a streight face ????
[04:39] <TruckerMan> Christopher, you should look at some linux basics first, its well worth the effort
[04:39] <intelikey> :)
[04:40] <Christopher> i sure will
[04:40] <DBO> Christopher, go to Applications -> Add Applications
[04:40] <fak3r> Christopher: if you don't want to use the cmd line, start with synaptic then
[04:40] <Mystic_Portal> !synaptic
[04:40] <ubotu> hmm... synaptic is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[04:40] <nil> Christopher: did you look at the help files?
[04:40] <Christopher> no
[04:40] <nickgarvey> oh I get it now
[04:40] <nickgarvey> silly me
[04:40] <VR_> Christopher: use ubuntu for a month... after that you'll understand much more than you think
[04:40] <nil> yesm the wiki is better
[04:40] <heyjoe2> can someone help me with usb problems. ubuntu doesnt recognize my mp3 player of usbstick and win2000 does. im dual booting but i really want to use linux permanently
[04:40] <PwcrLinux> !mp3player
[04:40] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, PwcrLinux
[04:40] <theripper> nil:will it remove only unneccesaary libs or all the selected libs?
[04:40] <Christopher> I was thinking on buying a linux basics book
[04:40] <nickgarvey> Christopher: STAY AWAY FROM LINUX FOR DUMMIES
[04:40] <Christopher> ok
[04:40] <NxO> madpilot:. im seeing the page that u give me ..
[04:40] <Christopher> Ill remember that
[04:40] <nickgarvey> Christopher: it is not a good book no sir
[04:40] <TruckerMan> Christopher,  you said you want to be 'superior to windows luser' you have to work at it
[04:41] <nil> theripper: as I understand, it removes all the *configuration* files for a package
[04:41] <intelikey> Christopher type this   xman     :)
[04:41] <Christopher> Im gonna stay with ubuntu
[04:41] <VR_> Christopher: dont waste your money. read around the ubuntu forums, and do things on your own. that's how you'll learn the fastest
[04:41] <Christopher> ok
[04:41] <nil> theripper: the libs (dependencies) are automatically removed when unneeded
[04:41] <Christopher> I love everything about ubuntu
[04:41] <theripper> nil:ok , thanks
[04:41] <alex_> i renamed my home dir and now xmms thinks it's in the old one
[04:41] <NxO> madpilot: for how long u use ubuntu ?
[04:41] <Christopher> just there are some things that confuse me
[04:42] <Christopher> i love the support the most
[04:42] <DBO> Christopher, thats normal, most people feel a LOT lost there first couple weeks with linux, its like learning to drive on the other side of the road
[04:42] <Christopher> all of you guys that are helping me rock
[04:42] <fak3r> Christopher: that's what IRC and the Forums are for, if you are wondering about it, chances are it's covered somewhere
[04:42] <nil> theripper: if you install A, and A needs libB end libC, then temoving A will also remove libB and linC if no other package needs these libs
[04:42] <intelikey> there is a man page for just about every thing you can do in linux....
[04:42] <Madpilot> NxO, about a year now
[04:42] <Dolm> i just pulled a good one, i clicked and dragged the tp menu over to the side of the screen and now i cant move it back..how do i restore it?
[04:42] <Christopher> I really appreciate all of this support
[04:43] <theripper> nil:ok cool , thats good to know
[04:43] <fak3r> Christopher: that's what we're here for, it's fun, and it's how we learned
[04:43] <intelikey> so go back to windows already.
[04:43] <DBO> and dont be afraid to ask dumb questions here, remember, no matter how much a newb you think you are, there is always somehere that makes you look like guru in a can
[04:43] <heyjoe2> can someone help me with usb problems. ubuntu doesnt recognize my mp3 player of usbstick and win2000 does. im dual booting but i really want to use linux permanently
[04:43] <nickgarvey> heyjoe2: did you try googling the brand of your player?
[04:43] <felipe_> whats the name of the aplication that let's you choose which aplications start along with gnome?
[04:43] <Madpilot> Dolm, do you mean the Applications/Places/
[04:43] <nickgarvey> heyjoe2: www.google.com/linux
[04:44] <Madpilot> System menus?
[04:44] <VR_> i gotta question. i installed a program by doing ./configure --prefix=/path/blah  now when i wanna read the man page of that program, i can't just do man <program? but specify the /path/  is there a way to create a shortcut of sorts?
[04:44] <NxO> madpilot, and u have another Operation system in ur computer?
[04:44] <nil> heyjoe2: does ubuntu recognizes other usb devices on your computer?
[04:44] <aajaj> so no one knows about this demux error ?
[04:44] <intelikey> lol   " guru in a can"
[04:44] <Madpilot> NxO, nope, just Ubuntu
[04:44] <DBO> felipe_, System -> Preferences -> Session
[04:44] <NxO> madpilot, o kool
[04:44] <Christopher> fak3r: thanks
[04:44] <Dolm> well the whole "start" menu, i dont know the name if it, the webbrowser, evolution, and help icons are HUGE ..it looks like the wharf bar would now
[04:45] <Madpilot> Dolm, are you running Ubuntu or Kubuntu?
[04:45] <Dolm> ubuntu, hoary
[04:45] <NxO> madpilot, is easy tu use it?
[04:45] <Dolm> gnome i believe
[04:45] <intelikey> aajaj i don't even know what demux is.
[04:45] <heyjoe2> nickgarvey: i did but its an oldish teach one
[04:45] <Madpilot> NxO, very easy
[04:45] <heyjoe2> nickgarvey: no relevant support
[04:45] <nil> intelikey: mux/demux : mixing audio and video in a file
[04:45] <heyjoe2> nil: it recognizes my usb mouse
[04:46] <Dolm> DBO:  would if i wasnt connecting with gprs at the moment
[04:46] <Madpilot> Dolm, how did you get the menus so large?
[04:46] <Dolm> Mad: i have no idea, i clicked and dragged it to the side and it stuck that way
[04:46] <heyjoe2> the usb devices have worked sporadically on ubuntu before, but dont seem to be workin at all now
[04:46] <Christopher> how do I install an application I download
[04:46] <intelikey> nil ok so like that's a gui thing which i tend to not have.....
[04:46] <Christopher> *downloaded
[04:46] <Christopher> like limewire
[04:46] <Dolm> now i cant get the "hand" icon to show up so i can move it back
[04:46] <nickgarvey> Christopher: if you used apt-get its installed already
[04:46] <Christopher> I really dont understand
[04:46] <thoreauputic> !limewire
[04:46] <ubotu> first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila. Consider !frostwire as an alternative.
[04:46] <Christopher> how do i use that comman
[04:46] <Christopher> d
[04:46] <NxO> madpilot, i like this chat that had
[04:47] <thoreauputic> Christopher: it's a java app
[04:47] <nil> Christopher: there already is bittorrent
[04:47] <aajaj> it has something with the format??
[04:47] <thoreauputic> !javadebs
[04:47] <Christopher> i know how to download it. I need to know how to install it
[04:47] <VR_> dont confuse him
[04:47] <intelikey> !javadeb
[04:47] <thoreauputic> Christopher: the factoid tells you ^^^
[04:47] <intelikey> !javadebs
[04:48] <AdventChild> !java
[04:48] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[04:48] <Madpilot> !msg the bot
[04:48] <ubotu> Please message the bot (me) in private, more info about the bot: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[04:48] <thoreauputic> the javadeb factoid is too long
[04:48] <AdventChild> !frostwire
[04:48] <Dolm> aha, its the top edge panel, ive foobared it
[04:48] <Christopher> ok
[04:48] <VR_> !frozen-bubble
[04:48] <ubotu> VR_: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:48] <intelikey> was just pointing out that the s didn't go on !javadeb
[04:48] <VR_> mwaheh
[04:48] <Mystic_Portal> if anyone wants to ping me i set it up so you can type MP
[04:48] <thoreauputic> nil: misspent childhood ;)
[04:48] <NxO> madpilot: i have problems again, i dowload this theme /home/ignacio/Nxo/Documents/Themes/35592-Flower.tar.gz
[04:48] <NxO>  and tellsme that is invalid to install
[04:48] <heyjoe2> nick garvey: i meant oldish teac one
[04:48] <nil> thoreauputic: :D
[04:48] <DBO> VR_, NOOOOoo, I spent years in rehab getting away from that game, and you just trashed all that work...
[04:49] <VR_> =)
[04:49] <Madpilot> NxO, got the URL you got that theme from?
[04:49] <VR_> it's a good game
[04:49] <Christopher> what does this mean
[04:49] <Christopher> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied) E: Unable to lock the list directory
[04:49] <nil> bye, gotta sleep, it's late in Paris !
[04:49] <NxO> madpilot, from the page that u give me gnome-look.org
[04:50] <Madpilot> Dolm, try this: right-click on your menus, select Remove From Panel. Then right-click again, choose Add To Panel, and put the menus back in place
[04:50] <aajaj> how do i add mpeg2 support ??
[04:50] <Christopher> take care nil
[04:50] <thoreauputic> Christopher: do you have synaptic running?
[04:50] <aajaj>  playback
[04:50] <aajaj> ??
[04:50] <Christopher> yno
[04:50] <Christopher> *no
[04:50] <Madpilot> NxO, got the exact URL from gnome-look?
[04:50] <OrTigaS> anyone tried to listen to internet radio(FM/AM)
[04:50] <manicka> Does anyone here know why the ubuntu logo suddenly seems to be hard coded into the menu bar in Dapper?
[04:50] <thoreauputic> Christopher: do you hav another apt instance running?
[04:50] <Christopher> no
[04:50] <Dolm> aha..that did it Mad, thanks
[04:50] <thoreauputic> Christopher: did you prepend sudo?
[04:50] <Dolm> the icons were so huge there was no vacant spots to "grab"
[04:51] <Christopher> what is that
[04:51] <thoreauputic> !sudo
[04:51] <ubotu> I heard sudo is a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[04:51] <Madpilot> Dolm, absolutely everything on Gnome's panels is just an applet, so you can remove/replace/move them at will
[04:51] <Christopher> oh
[04:51] <NxO> madpilot,http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=18179
[04:51] <thoreauputic> Christopher: I suggest you browse http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation
[04:51] <fak3r> Christopher: you shouldn't need sudo - you just launch Synaptic, it'll prompt you for a passwd
[04:51] <Zezin> People, is there any error at Ubuntu repositories?
[04:52] <heyjoe2> can someone help me with usb problems. ubuntu doesnt recognize my mp3 player or usbstick and win2000 does. im dual booting but i really want to use linux permanently
[04:52] <OrTigaS> anyone tried to listen to internet radio(FM/AM)
[04:52] <intelikey> Madpilot it may be the menu aplet that is in question there
[04:52] <Zezin> First I instaled a package that crashed my Ubuntu...
[04:52] <fak3r> OrTigasS: sorry, was afk - so what are you trying to hear?  is this an am/fm tuner in yr computer?
[04:52] <tkup> heyjoe2, what happens when you plug in the USB stick?
[04:52] <heyjoe2> tkup: nothing at all
[04:53] <heyjoe2> tkup: same with teac mp3 player
[04:53] <OrTigaS> its a website that can listen to AM/FM radio
[04:53] <Dolm> Oh yeah, score. I just found the Geyes
[04:53] <tkup> heyjoe2, does the light turn on?
[04:53] <fak3r> heyjoe2: dmesg | tail
[04:53] <heyjoe2> tkup: the light turns on
[04:53] <fak3r> heyjoe2: does that say anything usb related?  do you have HAL and Dbus on?
[04:53] <OrTigaS> fak3r,  its an internet radio
[04:53] <Zezin> DOES ANYBODY here got problems on instaling new packages this days?
[04:53] <intelikey> like i wish there was a smalled menu in gah'nome  if i'm ever going to use it,  i don't like that three tear wide menu.  they could all be droped in one small button.
[04:53] <tkup> heyjoe2, copy/paste the output of dmesg|tail -18 on pastebin
[04:53] <heyjoe2> ok
[04:54] <fak3r> zezin: nope - what kind of error?  are you on dapper?
[04:54] <sgt-dyke_> heyjoe2 what desktop r u using
[04:54] <Zezin> No.. Breezy....
[04:54] <sgt-dyke_> kde gnome fluxbox
[04:54] <heyjoe2> sgt-dyke: gnome
[04:54] <Zezin> First I instaled a package that crashed my Ubuntu...
[04:54] <NxO> madpilot, usee it ?
[04:54] <heyjoe2> tkup: http://pastebin.com/647274
[04:54] <Mu> No Flash 8 plugin?
[04:54] <thoreauputic> intelikey: you can chosse the applet for a single menu
[04:54] <Trae> any way to set up your ip address or network information at booot?  or a way to skip network stuff at boot of an ubuntu box?
[04:54] <Zezin> it crashed both gnome and kde of mine
[04:55] <thoreauputic> intelikey: it has the other two as submenus
[04:55] <phrizer> intelikey, you can have an applet for a single menu
[04:55] <intelikey> thoreauputic really >
[04:55] <intelikey> ?
[04:55] <thoreauputic> yup
[04:55] <Plitskin> hi guys I need help with "make"
[04:55] <Zezin> now, I was tring to reintall ubuintu
[04:55] <tkup> heyjoe2, can you do a dmest|tail -20
[04:55] <thoreauputic> intelikey: I use it on my laptop to save screen space
[04:55] <Madpilot> NxO, that's another GDM theme, so it's not a desktop theme
[04:55] <heyjoe2> tkup: command not found
[04:55] <Zezin> and when it went afetr some packeges, nothing happends...
[04:55] <tkup> heyjoe2, tail only shows about 10 linux by default and we need more than that
[04:55] <thoreauputic> intelikey: right click the panel and choose it
[04:55] <tkup> heyjoe2, sorry meant dmesg | tail -25
[04:56] <NxO>  madpilot:(
[04:56] <thoreauputic> intelikey: and then of course delete the other one :)
[04:56] <Mu> No way to get Flash 8 plugin on linux?
[04:56] <zac1333> quick question for you guys
[04:56] <crimsun> Mu: there won't be. Wait for 8.5.
[04:56] <zac1333> i was following the ISP-Server Setup at http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_5.10_p3
[04:56] <Mystic_Portal> go ahead sac1333
[04:56] <sgt-dyke_> heyjoe2 i suggest you get those package    usbmount  pmount libmount0.0 and all the dependency you need
[04:56] <zac1333> i'm at the part where he is showing you how to go from dhcp to a static ip
[04:56] <Mu> crimsun: Oh ok, thanks
[04:56] <heyjoe2> tkup: http://pastebin.com/647281
[04:56] <Mu> Can't see the movies sites though :-(
[04:56] <NxO> can u send me a Url of a theme that i can download?
[04:57] <heyjoe2> sgt-dyke: how do i do that
[04:57] <zac1333> no sweat, i run the command sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces
[04:57] <NxO> madpilot, can u send me a Url of a theme that i can download?
[04:57] <zac1333> type in everything as it should be
[04:57] <tkup> heyjoe2, what do you have on the usb device?
[04:57] <Dolm> welp, i got my nvidia drivers updated with much thanks to you all..now to see if guildwars will work
[04:57] <Mystic_Portal> !themes
[04:57] <zac1333> then when I type sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[04:57] <Christopher> I need your opinion...should I get this book
[04:57] <Christopher> hamachi-0.9.9.9-17-lnx.tar.gz
[04:57] <Plitskin> please help me... I downloaded a .gz file. I extracted it, and then typed "make"... But then I received an error like... /bin/sh: sdl-config: command not found and another one... /bin/sh: g++: command not found
[04:57] <zac1333> it fails
[04:57] <heyjoe2> tkup: just some pdfs and doc files for uni
[04:57] <Christopher> oops
[04:57] <Christopher> forgot to copy the link
[04:57] <Christopher> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0764579495/sr=8-1/qid=1144464922/ref=pd_bbs_1/002-2516303-7532869?%5Fencoding=UTF8
[04:57] <Mystic_Portal> !tell NxO about themes
[04:57] <_jason> Plitskin: what are you compiling?
[04:58] <intelikey> thoreauputic one other thing.  is there any way to stop those disk drive icons from poping up when you insert or mount a disk ?
[04:58] <zac1333> any thoughts Mystic?
[04:58] <sgt-dyke_> remember my name pwcrlinux i own you a lot
[04:58] <Plitskin> _jason: it's a game
[04:58] <OrTigaS> anyone
[04:58] <sgt-dyke_> thanx again all... and have a nice day....
[04:58] <_jason> Plitskin: have you checked if it is in the repositories?
[04:58] <thoreauputic> intelikey: yes - but I'm in fluxbox and I forget where - I think under disks in the admin menu
[04:59] <fak3r> OrTigaS: it's an internet radio...do you have a URL we can look at it on?
[04:59] <intelikey> thoreauputic k.    this menu is  the custom one right ?
[04:59] <OrTigaS> www.eradioportal.com
[04:59] <Mystic_Portal> !tell zac1333 about smartask
[04:59] <thoreauputic> intelikey: or you can explore the gconf editor...
[04:59] <heyjoe2> tkup: any ideas on where to go from here?
[04:59] <Plitskin> _jason: OMG... Does that mean I have to download from the internet...? SDL is not installed by default?
[04:59] <NxO> mystic_portal, thanks..
[04:59] <Mystic_Portal> No prob NxO
[04:59] <thoreauputic> intelikey: umm - there are two menus with ubuntu logos
[04:59] <Dr_Willis> thres oooodles of stuff not installed by default.
[04:59] <Mu> would flash work on firefox windows through wine?
[04:59] <thoreauputic> intelikey: it's the other one... heheh
[05:00] <Mystic_Portal> zach1333 will you please rephrase
[05:00] <nickgarvey> !flashplayer
[05:00] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, nickgarvey
[05:00] <nickgarvey> !tell mu about flash
[05:00] <zac1333> sure
[05:00] <intelikey> yeah i found it.  it's the main menu.  the custom one is the three teared one.
[05:00] <_jason> Plitskin: your error says you don't have g++ which means you need to isntall the build-essential package, but I think you should check the repostiories before compiling yourself.  And I don't know if sdl is isntalled by default, it is definitely in the repos though
[05:00] <_jason> ubotu: tell Plitskin about compile
[05:00] <thoreauputic> intelikey: right - I was just checking on my other box here :)
[05:00] <NxO> mystic_portal, what is the specific kind of theme i have to download?
[05:01] <Christopher> gotta go to sllep
[05:01] <Christopher> *sleep
[05:01] <Christopher> take care everyone
[05:01] <Christopher> goodnight
[05:01] <NxO> mystic_portal, splash skin?
[05:01] <tkup> heyjoe2, looks like synchronization problems. why don't you unplug the usb key, wait a few seconds, plug it back in, and wait a few minutes. let me know when you plug it back in
[05:01] <Christopher> or goodmorning
[05:01] <thoreauputic> Christopher: do not return to the dark side, Christopher !
[05:01] <thoreauputic> :)
[05:01] <theripper> what does this mean ./ when inserted before a file in a command?
[05:01] <Christopher> I promise I will not
[05:01] <OrTigaS> Plitskin,
[05:01] <thoreauputic> :))
[05:01] <tkup> heyjoe2, not synchronization but rather timing problems
[05:01] <Frogzoo> woot! fixed my wine problem - just a note to all, prelink might be best avoided for the time being
[05:01] <fak3r> OrTigaS: looks like it wants to launch Windows media player; do you have Mplayer installed with all the plugins/win32codes?
[05:01] <zac1333> I am trying to go from a dynamic ip, to a static ip, and I have edited the /etc/network/interfaces according to the tutorial at http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_5.10_p3, however when I run the command sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart (after I have modified the networking properties) it fails
[05:01] <OrTigaS> yes
[05:02] <DBO> Frogzoo, werent you trying to run a game of somesort?
[05:02] <Christopher> Windows is for n00bs
[05:02] <Christopher> LINUX FOREVER
[05:02] <heyjoe2> tkup: ok ill get back to u in a few mins
[05:02] <OrTigaS> i already played in wimp.com and the cnn video news
[05:02] <nickgarvey> :)
[05:02] <Christopher> I DONT CARE HOW LONG IT WILL TALK I WILL LEARN
[05:02] <DBO> Christopher, thats the elitist attitude we try to premote towards linux users, welcome to the crew!
[05:02] <_jason> Christopher: linux talks to you? :P
[05:02] <Christopher> Thanks a bunch
[05:02] <Mystic_Portal> !tell zach1333 about dns-dhcp
[05:02] <OrTigaS> only on this site because it all audio only
[05:02] <Frogzoo> DBO: yep, turns out prelink corrupts ld-2.3.5.so
[05:02] <nickgarvey> night chris
[05:02] <tkup> zac1333, any errors?
[05:02] <Christopher> yes it does
[05:03] <NxO> christopher im with u!
[05:03] <DBO> Frogzoo, what game?:-P
[05:03] <fak3r> OrTigaS: so can you just run Mplayer, then Open -> URL and put in this: mms://fm.martin.bitstop.ph/mareco_cebu
[05:03] <Christopher> Are you guys gonna be online tommorow
[05:03] <zac1333> just says *Reconfiguring network interfaces....         [fail] 
[05:03] <NxO> christopher im a new user too!
[05:03] <Christopher> awesome
[05:03] <Christopher> we can help each other out i suppose
[05:03] <intelikey> thoreauputic shows how much i've played with 'nome   i hadn't even found that menu yet....   ben on kde for years  twm  also.     never learned to like gnome.    but i like it a little better now.....     very little....  :)
[05:03] <OrTigaS> lemme try that
[05:03] <fak3r> OrTigaS: that'll tell us if it can play it
[05:03] <DBO> Christopher, someone is almost always on
[05:03] <Christopher> lol
[05:03] <jsestri2> I've got this odd situation with my network: I will be logged into some programs remotely via ssh, and have a bunch of Xwindows popped open, then all of a sudden, the network stops responding to anything (including any other programs using the network) the networking menu says eth0 is still active, but a restart seems to fix everything. Ideas for a cause or a fix?
[05:04] <zac1333> mystic I did not get the dns-dhcp thing you tried to send me
[05:04] <Christopher> ill be back on as early as i can
[05:04] <tkup> zac1333, pastebin what you put there
[05:04] <thoreauputic> intelikey: heh - I mostly live in fluxbox these days :)
[05:04] <Frogzoo> DBO: well pretty much everything under wine was crapping out after I prelinked - ie6, Firefox etc
[05:04] <theripper> why cant all the poeople join and make one super distro instead of having 1000 different distros?
[05:04] <_jason> theripper: choice
[05:04] <Christopher> Take care every one and thank you for all the support
[05:04] <intelikey> yeah flux is good :)
[05:04] <Christopher> LINUX FOREVER!
[05:04] <tkup> theripper, because some people think they're cool
[05:04] <Frogzoo> theripper: it's the diversity that keeps linux moving forward
[05:04] <Mystic_Portal> zach1333 please check your pm from ubotu i will send it again
[05:04] <thoreauputic> theripper: why can't we herd cats?
[05:04] <thoreauputic> :)
[05:04] <Mystic_Portal> !tell zach1333 about dns-dhcp
[05:04] <PwcrLinux> im back! :)
[05:04] <DBO> Frogzoo, Ill be honest, I dont know crap about wine, never needed to run windows progs.  Do you know where I can learn about Wine?
[05:05] <OrTigaS> i open the mplayer but i only saw mplayer video no other option..maybe thats the problem
[05:05] <Auckland_Pig> http://www.ozzu.com/images/avatars/2126415048405fabc134d4e.jpg
[05:05] <Auckland_Pig> he he he ... lol
[05:05] <intelikey> winehq.com ?
[05:05] <Frogzoo> DBO: wiki.winehq.org winehq.org
[05:05] <theripper> i figured in a joint effort of all distros linux evolution would progress at much faster pace
[05:05] <zac1333> # This is a list of hotpluggable network interfaces.
[05:05] <zac1333> # They will be activated automatically by the hotplug subsystem.
[05:05] <zac1333> mapping hotplug
[05:05] <zac1333>         script grep
[05:05] <zac1333>         map eth0
[05:05] <zac1333> # The primary network interface
[05:05] <zac1333> auto eth0
[05:05] <zac1333> iface eth0 inet static
[05:05] <DBO> Frogzoo, ok, works for me
[05:05] <thoreauputic> theripper: doesn't work like that
[05:05] <zac1333>         address 10.1.1.3       netmask 255.255.255.0
[05:05] <zac1333>         network 10.1.1.0
[05:05] <zac1333>         broadcast 10.1.1.255
[05:05] <zac1333>         gateway 10.1.1.1
[05:06] <thoreauputic> zac1333: STOP pasting!
[05:06] <PwcrLinux> !paste
[05:06] <zac1333> the guy told me to
[05:06] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[05:06] <Frogzoo> DBO: first step is to d/l the 0.9.11 deb from sourceforge (or use their repo, NOT ubuntus)
[05:06] <zac1333> tkup asked me to paste
[05:06] <thoreauputic> !paste
[05:06] <heyjoe2> tkup: ive tried that and its still not recognizing it
[05:06] <thoreauputic> zac1333: use a pastebin
[05:06] !lilo:*! access to the network is closed for the moment, apologies for the inconvenience
[05:06] <tkup> zac1333, reread what I posted. I said "pastebin" :)
[05:06] <Mystic_Portal> zac1333 dont paste or you will get banned
[05:06] <DBO> Frogzoo, WAY ahead of you =P
[05:06] <zac1333> what's a pastebin
[05:06] <zac1333> :)
[05:07] <intelikey> theripper "i figured in a joint effort of all distros...."  that would kill linux.
[05:07] <tkup> zac1333, you should have asked earlier :)
[05:07] <tkup> zac1333, read the title of this channel
[05:07] <btdown> !pastebin
[05:07] <ubotu> I guess pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[05:07] <theripper> intelikey: why would it?
[05:07] <OrTigaS> fak3r,  u there?
[05:07] <Mystic_Portal> thoreauputic I will help him with paste bin no need to ban him =)
[05:07] <fak3r> y
[05:08] <thoreauputic> theripper: the various projects cross fertilise
[05:08] <OrTigaS> i open the mplayer but i only saw mplayer video no other option..maybe thats the problem
[05:08] <thoreauputic> Mystic_Portal: I wsn't going to - yet ;)
[05:08] <fak3r> OrTigaS: I'm on my ibook, just booted my desktop to see if I can listen on Ubuntu...
[05:08] <intelikey> theripper because it would require one governing body or person.... but linux is about freedom,   go read  gnu.org
[05:08] <OrTigaS> its only play with video
[05:08] <tkup> heyjoe2, did you try mount /dev/sda /mnt/ -fstype=vfat
[05:08] <OrTigaS> okay
[05:08] <heyjoe2> tkup: no
[05:08] <Mu> bah why do sites use flash8
[05:08] <thoreauputic> theripper: and everyone has access to the code
[05:08] <Mystic_Portal> thoreauputic I thought you were because your mode is still +o pluse zach1333 left the channel
[05:09] <tkup> heyjoe2, it might give you more clues about the problem
[05:09] <zac1333> i'm here
[05:09] <jsestri2> tkup: you're helping zac1333 with his network? have you ever heard of the network stop responding and requireing a restart to fix it?
[05:09] <heyjoe2> tkup: i just did it and nothing happened
[05:09] <intelikey> mu good question.... i've often wondered why anyone used flash.
[05:09] <thoreauputic> Mystic_Portal: ah, good point - I shall deop :)
[05:09] <PhoenixP3K> Hi, I've got a weird w32codecs bug, DivX/Xvid codecs stopped working on all players except Mplayer. Tryed to uninstall & reinstall but no change...
[05:09] <fak3r> OrTigasS: what's the URL again?  I lost it
[05:09] <NxO> Out for a while..
[05:09] <fak3r> Mu: yeah, I hate flash8 sites...
[05:09] <OrTigaS> www.eradioportal.com
[05:10] <tkup> zac1333, remove auto eth0
[05:10] <jsestri2> heyjoe2: where did you make your fat partion?
[05:10] <PhoenixP3K> Mu, 'cause they think it's better and never consider legacy versions
[05:10] <rukuartic> Any relase date for dapper?
[05:10] <theripper> yeah you are right , but lots of things still dont work , and its still takes forever to fugure out hoe to use linux
[05:10] <PwcrLinux> rukuartic: June 1
[05:10] <rukuartic> PwcrLinux: Thx
[05:10] <tkup> heyjoe2, I don't understand your question
[05:10] <Mu> all the sonypictures movie sites use flash 8
[05:10] <thoreauputic> theripper: when you start using linux you become part of the solution :)
[05:11] <Frogzoo> DBO: one last thing, if you're trying to get help with a specific app, check their app db, http://appdb.winehq.org/ which shows how/whether the app will run
[05:11] <heyjoe2> jsestri2: i dont know. im very new to all this
[05:11] <DBO> Frogzoo, now that was just the thing I needed, thanks!
[05:11] <intelikey> !dapper
[05:11] <zac1333> tkup, I did that
[05:11] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[05:11] <heyjoe2> tkup: my question is. how do i get linux to read my usb devices like windows does
[05:11] <tkup> heyjoe2, did mount finish executing or is it still stuck at the terminal?
[05:11] <DBO> intelikey, he already left:-P
[05:11] <PhoenixP3K> Mu, yup that's a real bummer. I read somewhere that the next Flash version for linux would skip directly to Flash 9
[05:11] <Mu> too bad, flash 8 doesn't work in wine
[05:11] <Mystic_Portal> thoreauputic may i pm you plz
[05:12] <heyjoe2> tkup: i just copied what u typed and nothing happened, no error msg, no output
[05:12] <jsestri2> heyjoe2, have you tried looking in the System->Administration->Disks menu?
[05:12] <Mu> They say it will be 8.5, but when? that was 5 months ago
[05:12] <thoreauputic> Mystic_Portal: if it's brief, OK
[05:12] <fak3r> OrTigaS: hmf...yeah, it wants to open in Totem - but then that gives me the error: Location not found.
[05:12] <tkup> heyjoe2, try dmesg|tail -20 on pastebin again
[05:12] <PwcrLinux> i might bbl..
[05:12] <PhoenixP3K> Mu, time frame is not an issue when it comes to linux consumers, since they're not considered as such
[05:12] <zac1333> tkup - I still get the same result - fails on restart
[05:12] <tkup> jsestri2, I was thinking the usb would me mounted automatically :/
[05:12] <Mu> Guess I'll have to boot to windows for the first time in months to see this site
[05:13] <Dolm> what is this progress bar in x-chat under the users list?
[05:13] <PhoenixP3K> **Codec problem, someone experienced on that issue ?
[05:13] <PwcrLinux-BBL[Ot> hmm limitation..
[05:13] <jsestri2> tkup: this is linux, its not quite as plug'n'play as windows, but its getting there
[05:13] <nathanj> BLAH! promoting automatix http://www.pcmech.com/show/os/917/5/
[05:13] <TruckerMan> jsestri2, its come a long way, i know that much
[05:13] <heyjoe2> tkup: http://pastebin.com/647290
[05:13] <vanRijn> re, all
[05:14] <nickgarvey> friends don't let friends use automatix
[05:14] <jsestri2> TruckerMan: I started wtih redhat 5.1 i think
[05:14] <tkup> heyjoe2, it's already been mounted. it's on scsi3
[05:14] <PhoenixP3K> nathanj, it won't solve my problem. It's a quick fix for newbies
[05:14] <heyjoe2> tkup: ok how do i access it?
[05:14] <jsestri2> tkup oh does he know where to look for it in the filesystem?
[05:14] <tkup> heyjoe2, but the timing problems must mess it up a little
[05:14] <tkup> heyjoe2, look under /mnt
[05:14] <fak3r> jsestri2: I booted up my 5.0 install cd the other night just for fun!  came with the Red Hat Linux Unleashed back in...97, 98 or so
[05:14] <heyjoe2> jsestri: no
[05:14] <TruckerMan> i remember first time i did redhat bout eight years ago, you had to look at the back of your monitor and type in the mhz and test it during installation
[05:15] <zac1333> is this what i should have done?   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11729
[05:15] <Mu> My first was redhat 9
[05:15] <heyjoe2> tkup: what do i type?
[05:15] <Dolm> lol @ TruckerMan
[05:15] <fak3r> TruckerMan: right - fun stuff...
[05:15] <jsestri2> fak3r nice! yeah it was a redhat 5.1 500mhz comp i think, real old school
[05:15] <fak3r> OrtiGas: can't get anything to play
[05:15] <tkup> zac1333, can you paste dmesg|tail -20 to PASTEBIN?
[05:15] <motin> is it possible to use the combination php4 mysql41 apache13 in ubuntu? the php4 package has dependencies on apache2 only as i can see...
[05:15] <DBO> TruckerMan, I kinda miss those times... accidentally "overclocking" your monitor... good times
[05:15] <fak3r> jsestri2: I first learned apache and ftp server, since the desktop wasn't too nice back then
[05:16] <intelikey> hmmm i started on slack 4
[05:16] <tkup> heyjoe2, places->Home folder and then naviguate to /mnt
[05:16] <tiglionabbit> I get these errors every time I use apt.  How do I fix this?  http://pastebin.com/647292
[05:16] <TruckerMan> then startX and theres like a huge task bar and and giant x cursor all pixalated taking up ninety percent of the screen
[05:16] <jsestri2> fak3r, yeah def good to learn to love the terminal
[05:16] <TruckerMan> yeah lmao
[05:16] <fak3r> intelikey: aw slack, that's where I learned my way around linux
[05:16] <vanRijn> I'm running ubuntu (dapper) on a powerbook ppc, and when I plug headphones in, the internal speakers don't stop and the headphones don't have sound.  is there anyway to debug this?
[05:16] <tkup> heyjoe2, rather Places->Computer
[05:16] <TruckerMan> the old days, my my
[05:16] <TruckerMan> lol
[05:17] <OrTigaS> fak3r,  it can be solve?
[05:17] <heyjoe2> tkup: all i see is floppy drive, two cd rom drives and filesystem
[05:17] <tkup> heyjoe2, any luck?
[05:17] <tkup> heyjoe2, goto filesystem
[05:17] <heyjoe2> tkup: nothin inside mnt
[05:17] <zac1333> tkup, not sure how to past the result of dmesg|tail -20, as I have no way to copy that text, since the network connection is not working
[05:17] <tiglionabbit> how do I fix gpg errors?
[05:17] <fak3r> OrTigaS: I can't play it in any audio player ;( maybe ask on ubu-forum...sorry, but Totem, Rhythmbox, Xmms...none will open for me
[05:18] <io_> Can I install flight 6 of drake without losing the stuff on my computer now?  -how do I upgrade?
[05:18] <nickgarvey> !gpg
[05:18] <ubotu> gpg is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto or http://www.linuxgazette.com/node/8746
[05:18] <tkup> zac1333, are you running it from the terminal? then you can highlight the text, click on the highlighted text once, and middle click to paste
[05:18] <zac1333> I can see the results of typing that in, just not sure how to paste it into the pastebin
[05:18] <OrTigaS> here nobody try it? listening to internet radio :)
[05:18] <nickgarvey> io_: read topic of channel, #ubuntu+1 for dapper
[05:18] <NxO> what is KDE?
[05:18] <nickgarvey> !kde
[05:18] <ubotu> rumour has it, kde is A powerful, free desktop environment for UNIX. IRC: #kubuntu #kde ; install from Ubuntu: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/
[05:18] <zac1333> i am running it on another machine (i'm on a thinkpad now)
[05:19] <tiglionabbit> nickgarvey: I know but how do I resolve these errors coming from apt-get?
[05:19] <odin__> is there any way to draw shapes in GIMP>
[05:19] <odin__> ?
[05:19] <_Dez> !fluxbox
[05:19] <ubotu> hmm... fluxbox is a lightweight window manager.  Installation instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fluxbox.  More information at http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net
[05:19] <nickgarvey> tiglionabbit: get the keys and register them
[05:19] <Mystic_Portal> !tell zac1333 about pastebin
[05:19] <nickgarvey> tiglionabbit: I used google and it worked fine for me
[05:19] <frederick_> ive just installed Ubuntu how do i get root acceces?
[05:19] <tiglionabbit> nickgarvey: get from where?
[05:19] <thoreauputic> !root
[05:19] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[05:20] <rishi> Is there support for the Creative Zen Vision M?
[05:20] <frederick_> thx
[05:20] <tkup> heyjoe2, try mount /dev/sda /mnt -fstype=vfat and open it again
[05:20] <nickgarvey> tiglionabbit: I used easy source
[05:20] <zac1333> mystic, pastebin would do me no good, as the machine I am referencing is a server install
[05:20] <rishi> Can anyone tell me if i can use my creative Zen Vision M on ubuntu?
[05:20] <heyjoe2> tkup: this is what happens- frank@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/sda /mnt -fstype=vfat
[05:20] <heyjoe2> frank@ubuntu:~$
[05:20] <tiglionabbit> nickgarvey: what?
[05:21] <tkup> heyjoe2, from the terminal do a ls -al /mnt
[05:21] <nickgarvey> !tell tiglionabbit about easysource
[05:21] <odin__> is there any way to draw squares and circles on GIMP?
[05:21] <tkup> zac1333, can you paste the LAST line in your dmesg log here?
[05:21] <thoreauputic> !tell Mystic_Portal about ubotu
[05:21] <TruckerMan> rishi is it usb?
[05:21] <rishi> TruckerMan, yeah, it is
[05:22] <TruckerMan> have you tried plugging it in ?
[05:22] <zac1333> [4294714.716000]  IPv6 over IPv4 tunneling driver
[05:22] <heyjoe2> tkup: http://pastebin.com/647297
[05:22] <tkup> zac1333, type in the line before the above one. you can leave out the numbers
[05:22] <rishi> TruckerMan, not yet, i wanted to see if there was support or not first, should i jsut try?
[05:23] <zac1333> Disabled Privacy Extensions on device c031eb40(lo)
[05:23] <TruckerMan> i havent tried my girlfriends creative yet but ubuntu recognized my usb drive so i imagine its going to just recognize zen as a removable drive
[05:23] <motin> How do I install php4 with apache13 on Ubuntu?
[05:23] <TruckerMan> i'd just try it, if you do let me know
[05:24] <rishi> TruckerMan, i will, you usually on here?
[05:24] <TruckerMan> rarely
[05:24] <nickgarvey> I live here
[05:24] <tkup> heyjoe2, try ls /dev/sda?
[05:24] <TruckerMan> gotta keep on truckin
[05:24] <rishi> TruckerMan, if you want, give me your email and i'll let you know
[05:24] <rishi> pm me it
[05:24] <TruckerMan> nickgarvey eats sleeps and dreams ubuntu
[05:25] <tkup> zac1333, one more up :/
[05:25] <NxO> mystical_portal, you are there?
[05:25] <rishi> it is people like nickgarvey that make ubuntu the greatest distro
[05:25] <zac1333> NET: Registered protocol family 10
[05:25] <heyjoe2> tkup: http://pastebin.com/647300
[05:25] <tkup> heyjoe2, from the terminal try looking under /media/
[05:25] <TruckerMan> rishi, naw, thats cool bro, i'll just try my girlies creative, i thought you would just do it right now
[05:25] <TruckerMan> thanks tho
[05:25] <tkup> heyjoe2, ls /dev/sda? not ls /dev/sda
[05:26] <rishi> TruckerMan, hold up
[05:26] <zac1333> the one above that is ibm_acpi: ec object not found
[05:26] <heyjoe2> tkup: no such file or dir
[05:26] <Angor> hello
[05:26] <nathanj> can you send netsend message from ubuntu?
[05:26] <vanRijn> anyone using ubuntu ppc on a powerbook?
[05:26] <chris> DBO here?
[05:26] <DBO> yesh
[05:26] <bigfoot1> i did a "wget" on the embedded videos at http://www.nature.com/news/2006/060403/full/060403-10.html but mplayer can't play them. what's wrong?
[05:26] <NxO> thanks for everything!...im gonna try to install a theme..
[05:27] <NxO> :S
[05:27] <chris> DBO how are you doing today!?
[05:27] <Angor> hi! can anyone help me with my sounds in ubuntu?
[05:27] <DBO> Im alive
[05:27] <DBO> how are you chris?
[05:27] <heyjoe2> tkup: i gather just typing /media/ is not  the ticket
[05:27] <nickgarvey> !tell Angor about sound
[05:27] <tkup> heyjoe2, the kernel doesn't get along with your usb drive :(
[05:27] <DBO> is the PC working ok?
[05:27] <NxO> with the info that i receive
[05:27] <heyjoe2> tkup: is there anything i can do?
[05:27] <nickgarvey> try those sites Angor
[05:27] <tkup> heyjoe2, ls -al /media
[05:27] <chris> DBO just fine, I am making awebsite but i can't fiqure out why the picstures arn't loading up
[05:27] <Angor> thanks nick!!! :)
[05:28] <tkup> heyjoe2, you can post it on the ubuntu forums and I'm sure some developer will fix the problem
[05:28] <chris> do the pictures have to be on my ftp?
[05:28] <heyjoe2> tkup: what should i write
[05:28] <jsestri2> I've got this odd situation with my network: I will be logged into some programs remotely via ssh, and have a bunch of Xwindows popped open, then all of a sudden, the network stops responding to anything (including any other programs using the network) the networking menu says eth0 is still active, but a restart seems to fix everything. Ideas for a cause or a fix?
[05:28] <DBO> no, the pictures need to be in a directory in the /home/chris/www directory
[05:28] <heyjoe2> just say ubuntu doesnt read my usb device. here is the relevant info and paste that?
[05:28] <djosiris> hey, for general desktop use, is it really worth it to go from ext3 to reiserfs4? kind of a headache upgrading 5.10 to that im seeing 8|
[05:29] <chris> i had them in /home/chris/www/images
[05:29] <heyjoe2> heyjoe2: i also have an mp3 player that id like to get working
[05:29] <tkup> heyjoe2, try #ubuntu-bugs
[05:29] <heyjoe2> ok thanks
[05:29] <OrTigaS> here nobody try it? listening to internet radio :)
[05:29] <zac1333> tkup is helping lots of people tonight
[05:29] <Mystic_Portal> !relatedtopic
[05:29] <ubotu> I guess relatedtopic is Please keep all questions related to ubuntu in this channel.
[05:29] <ubuntu> if i go to Places -> Network Servers then I select a server then SMB share, right click the SMB share and go connect to this server, where abouts is it stored in the fs apart from the icon on desktop
[05:29] <DBO> chris, so in your html the path to the images is images/imagename.jpg
[05:29] <Viflu1> I just got Ubuntu installed on my laptop, can anyone tell me why the fonts look so...horrible (not very smooth, kind of jagged)?
[05:29] <zac1333> tkup if I need to reinstall ubuntu server, I can
[05:29] <tkup> heyjoe2, yeah and make sure you paste in your full dmesg and the /etc/issue
[05:29] <chris> correct
[05:30] <Mystic_Portal> !tell viful about fonts
[05:30] <chris> wait hold on
[05:30] <DBO> chris, should be working then
[05:30] <djosiris> anyone here try reiserfs4 on ubuntu?
[05:30] <chris> :P trying something
[05:30] <heyjoe2> tkup: what is my full dmesg and etcissue?
[05:30] <Viflux> !tell Viflux about fonts
[05:30] <rishi> TruckerMan, doesn't show up
[05:30] <Viflux> :(
[05:30] <Mystic_Portal> !reiserfs4
[05:30] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Mystic_Portal
[05:30] <_jason> Viflux: system > prefs > fonts, set up subpixel smoothing
[05:31] <KR3470R0> hey, anyone know where i could get a guide to installing SiS drivers on Kubuntu?
[05:31] <tkup> zac1333, what I usually do is comment all the entries in /etc/network/interfaces and put the lines ifconfig eth0 IP_ADDRESS netmask NET_MASK up and on another line route add default gw GATEWAY in file /etc/init.d/rc.mynet
[05:31] <ubuntu> can the 5.10 live cd play mp3s?
[05:31] <_jason> ubuntu: install gstreamer0.8-mad from universe and it will
[05:31] <TruckerMan> hmmm
[05:31] <Frogzoo> is automatix unfixable? is this like a kde vs gnome/emacs vs vi thing, or can automatix never be made to work?
[05:31] <ubuntu> whats universe?
[05:31] <Frogzoo> !repos
[05:31] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[05:32] <_jason> ubotu: tell ubuntu about unvierse
[05:32] <_jason> or just see what ubotu said since I can't type
[05:32] <OrTigaS> anyone used to listen to internet radio(FM/AM)
[05:32] <motin> How do I install php4 with apache13 on Ubuntu? the php4 packages are dependant of apache2... can this be changed in any way?
[05:32] <zac1333> tkup, give me a sec to try that
[05:32] <_jason> OrTigaS: be more specific
[05:32] <OrTigaS> i'm having problem..it didn't works
[05:32] <OrTigaS> the sounds
[05:32] <djosiris> hmm No factoids containing "resierfs"
[05:32] <tkup> heyjoe2, paste whatever you get from typing dmesg at the terminal and also typing cat /etc/issue
[05:32] <DBO> Frogzoo, the way to fix automatix is to make people stop being lazy sheep =P
[05:32] <_jason> OrTigaS: what station?
[05:33] <OrTigaS> www.eradioportal.com
[05:33] <tkup> zac1333, I can paste the above with your config on pastebin if you want
[05:33] <OrTigaS> FM & AM station
[05:33] <Mystic_Portal> !tell zac1333 relatedtopic
[05:33] <Frogzoo> DBO: one of the down sides of diversity, is that some apps will suck
[05:33] <RehanSAlvi> hello everyone. I just tried installing Ubuntu from the Live CD and the first time through the installation when it went to detect hardware it said it couldn't detect my CD drive. I then ran "live noapic nolapic" and it go further along in the reading stuff from CD part of the install but then gave the same error.  I know my CD drive works fine---any help or suggestions?
[05:33] <mikebot> heyjoe2, in gtkpod, when i add songs to my ipod, and i try to close gtkpod, it says: Data has been changed and not been saved.
[05:33] <mikebot> OK to exit gtkpod?
[05:33] <mikebot> and then the songs aren't saved on the ipod
[05:33] <mikebot> is there a way to resolve this
[05:34] <heyjoe2> mikebot: i dont know, i cant even get ubuntu to read my mp3 player
[05:34] <mikebot> hehe
[05:34] <Frogzoo> RehanSAlvi: you can't install breezy from the live cd
[05:34] <_jason> OrTigaS: http://www.eradioportal.com/dzbb_prepys.asx works fine
[05:34] <chris> DBO thanks :)
[05:34] <mikebot> Mystic_Portal, i can play mp3s and everything
[05:34] <chris> its working
[05:34] <mikebot> just saving to the ipod seems to be the problem
[05:34] <OrTigaS> somethings wrong with my mplayer
[05:35] <OrTigaS> :(
[05:35] <_jason> OrTigaS: mplayer -cache 50 -playlist http://www.eradioportal.com/dzbb_prepys.asx, in a terminal.  Does it work?
[05:35] <RehanSAlvi> Frogzoo: I have version 5.10 -- is that Breezy? They sent me a Live CD...
[05:35] <OrTigaS> k
[05:35] <KR3470R0> so, anyone know where I can get the guide to isntalling SiS VGA drivers?
[05:35] <Frogzoo> RehanSAlvi: you can't install that - you can only run it - but they sent you 2 cds, you want the install disk
[05:35] <zac1333> tkup, pastebin would be great
[05:35] <RehanSAlvi> Frogzoo: oh i'm sorry. I mean, I'm trying to run it.
[05:36] <DBO> your images are still broke chris
[05:36] <zac1333> Mystic_Portal, I did not get your relatedtopic thing
[05:36] <tkup> zac1333, paste your IP info on pastebin. I lost them above
[05:36] <mikebot> how does anyone here add songs to their ipod?
[05:36] <RehanSAlvi> Frogzoo: but while its reading files off the CD drive it says there was an error reading from the CD drive
[05:36] <Frogzoo> RehanSAlvi: yes, but not the live cd, the install cd
[05:36] <mikebot> !ipod
[05:36] <ubotu> info for syncing your iPod is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPodHowto
[05:36] <djosiris> !kernel
[05:36] <KR3470R0> !SiS
[05:36] <ubotu> KR3470R0: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:36] <KR3470R0> lol
[05:36] <zac1333> tkup http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11729
[05:36] <jsestri2> is there a way to check whether apic is on/off?
[05:36] <cloudnet> anyone in pta here?
[05:37] <djosiris> are there any newer kernels that are stable with 5.10?
[05:37] <RehanSAlvi> Frogzoo: I'm not trying to install...just trying to use the Live CD to run it w/o changing my system files. Thats when I get the CD read error.
[05:37] <Frogzoo> RehanSAlvi: try bootking with 'linux acpi=off'
[05:37] <OrTigaS> in terminal its works
[05:37] <mikebot> what's the command to search for packages?
[05:37] <tiglionabbit> nickgarvey: I just used easy source, and imported its gpg keys, but I still get a failed key for security.ubuntu.com
[05:37] <jsestri2> djosiris: breezy is a release, all work is on ubuntu
[05:37] <DBO> chris, your html shouldnt include the /home/chris/www part, just the bit that follows
[05:37] <_jason> ubotu: tell mikebot about apt
[05:37] <mikebot> apt-cache locate or something?
[05:37] <RehanSAlvi> Frogzoo: ok, should i also type noapic nolapic  ?
[05:37] <OrTigaS> _jason, copy
[05:38] <mikebot> thanks
[05:38] <OrTigaS> its work in terminal
[05:38] <_jason> OrTigaS: huh?
[05:38] <cloudnet> if you're in gauteng check this out: http://forum.cloudnet.yi.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=2
[05:38] <OrTigaS> the AM radio
[05:38] <Frogzoo> RehanSAlvi: try without first
[05:38] <jsestri2> Frogzoo: is there a way to check if the kernal has noapic=on/off?
[05:38] <_jason> OrTigaS: tell me one that doesn't work
[05:38] <RehanSAlvi> Frogzoo: sweet. thanks. let me go try that. thank you for all your help.
[05:38] <Frogzoo> jsestri2: it will be in /proc I assume
[05:38] <djosiris> jsestri2: what are you running?
[05:38] <OrTigaS> it say playing but no sounds
[05:39] <djosiris> dapper is stable?
[05:39] <OrTigaS> even the FM when i open it show the Totem again and close the Firefox
[05:39] <jsestri2> djosiris: i am actually running dapper, but my networking has problems and i want to check to see if turning apic off will help
[05:39] <djosiris> jsestri2: what NIC?
[05:39] <_jason> OrTigaS: does the am have sound?
[05:40] <Madpilot> djosiris, Dapper test releases are available
[05:40] <OrTigaS> no sounds in am it just shows playing
[05:40] <Frogzoo> jsestri2: there's a difference between acpi & apic
[05:40] <jsestri2> Marvell pciexpress gigabit LAN
[05:40] <djosiris> jsestri2: yeah turn off acpi
[05:40] <jsestri2> djosiris: are there any side effects to this?
[05:40] <_jason> OrTigaS: do other things you play in mplayer have sounds?
[05:41] <OrTigaS> video its works with sounds..
[05:41] <Frogzoo> jsestri2: yes, acpi doesn't work
[05:41] <OrTigaS> but this audio only didn't work
[05:41] <ubuntu> how do i install that file from the universe when the options are remarked out in sources.list
[05:41] <Mystic_Portal> ortigas did i answer your question?
[05:41] <_jason> OrTigaS: pastebin the output from that mplayer command
[05:41] <djosiris> what motherboard do you have?
[05:41] <_jason> ubotu: tell ubuntu about universe
[05:41] <Madpilot> ubuntu, you need to edit your sources
[05:41] <djosiris> proctype/chipset etc...
[05:41] <jsestri2> Frogzoo: how exactly do i turn it off? do i need a recompile?
[05:42] <Mystic_Portal> OrTigaS: Please read your query from ubotu
[05:42] <Frogzoo> jsestri2: you just pass 'acpi=off' as a boot option - you can set kopt in grub's menu.lst
[05:42] <OrTigaS> yea i'm reading
[05:43] <jsestri2> Frogzoo: alright i'll give that try, thanks
[05:43] <Frogzoo> jsestri2: then run update-grub
[05:43] <OrTigaS> Mystic_Portal,  i hear sounds when i play in terminal
[05:43] <djosiris> jsestri2 only way to know is to try
[05:43] <OrTigaS> when _jason  told me
[05:43] <Frogzoo> djosiris: do or do not - there is no try :)
[05:43] <_jason> OrTigaS: does the AM give you sounds or not?  because you seem to be saying both...
[05:43] <OrTigaS> i think my player has the issue
[05:44] <tkup> zac1333, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11731
[05:44] <djosiris> I have A-Bit AN8 AMD 64 3200 but due to the large amount of x64 issues I have settled for 32bit for now =(
[05:44] <OrTigaS> AM no sounds but it say playing
[05:44] <_jason> OrTigaS: ok, can you pastebin the output from mplayer now, I'm about to go in a bit
[05:44] <OrTigaS> FM its open the totem player then say something
[05:44] <djosiris> dont have anything to loose other than a little time with dapper i guess
[05:45] <OrTigaS> its only say playing
[05:45] <frederick_> http://www.linuxin.dk/games/artikler/index.php?id=6101 can anybody tell me what to do im just reached here to sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-7667-pkg1.run
[05:45] <OrTigaS> what output can i paste
[05:45] <OrTigaS> when i click the AM
[05:45] <OrTigaS> it just playing but no sounds
[05:46] <_jason> OrTigaS: the mplayer command that you put in the terminal
[05:47] <djosiris> are there any x64 linux distros that have working 32bit flash/java on install? LoL!
[05:47] <alex_> how do i upgrade to flash8?
[05:47] <djosiris> the core stuff is really nice but once you start getting into apps and hardware drivers it becomes a nightmare
[05:47] <OrTigaS> teknikal@Teknikal:~$ mplayer -cache 50 -playlist http://www.eradioportal.com/dzbb_prepys.asx
[05:47] <OrTigaS>  <---- i try this its work in a terminal
[05:48] <tkup> zac1333, there yet?
[05:48] <zac1333> about to be...
[05:48] <_jason> OrTigaS: so you hear sound with that?
[05:48] <OrTigaS> _jason,  yes
[05:48] <chris> DBO http://69.37.206.180/ the pictures are missing!!
[05:49] <rixth> alex_, you can't.
[05:49] <joelbryan> hello, If all people in the planet that use Ubuntu will auto-join #ubuntu, do you think that would going to be a total chaos.
[05:49] <chris> only shows up on my computer
[05:49] <jsestri2> Frogzoo: are there any default settings i should worry about turning off?
[05:49] <alex_> rixth ?
[05:49] <alex_> so i can't install flash 8?
[05:49] <alex_> some programs require flash 8
[05:49] <rixth> alex_, Macromedia (er, Adobe) have not released Flash 8 for Linux.
[05:49] <rixth> I'm ot sure they will, either.
[05:49] <DBO> chris, yeah, I know, when you coded your html, you the path to the images is NOT /home/chris/www/images it is simply images/imagename
[05:49] <_jason> OrTigaS: the server is slow, your mplayer plugin is probably just caching a lot
[05:49] <DBO> wait
[05:49] <andrewski> flash sucks.
[05:50] <andrewski> adobe sucks too.
[05:50] <DBO> chris, they work for me
[05:50] <rixth> andrewski, not helping.
[05:50] <andrewski> rixth: yeah, true.  sorry.
[05:50] <chris> ok thanks dbo :)
[05:50] <kargath64> hey ppl
[05:50] <ubuntu> wow that synaptics package manager is pretty awesome
[05:50] <djosiris> they are probably going to wait another 5 years to release any x64 flash
[05:50] <andrewski> rixth: it's a frustrating conundrum.  isn't there a "request support for linux" page somewhere?
[05:50] <slew_> hi, id like to make an audio cd, it tells me it needs plugins, but not which ones. which plugins do i need to burn an audio cd?
[05:50] <OrTigaS> ah ok
[05:50] <OrTigaS> lemme just try again
[05:51] <rixth> andrewski, I think there a couple petitions somewhere, but nothing official from Adobe.
[05:51] <djosiris> and bunches of issues trying to run x32 & x64 firefox on the same system!@#%
[05:51] <kargath64> does anyone know how to force 5.10 to use gcc3.3?
[05:51] <OrTigaS> still open and theres no sound at all
[05:51] <kargath64> 'cause i need it to install drivers, nvidia card, modem ...
[05:51] <acid-trip> ok i'm new to ubuntu just JUST installed it
[05:51] <tkup> zac1333, the /etc/resolv.conf entry should only be there if you want to surf the net from that machine
[05:52] <djosiris> kargath64 your hardware doesnt work at all?
[05:52] <andrewski> a bug report today mentioned running the "latest dapper live cd" to test something... would that be flight 6?
[05:52] <tkup> zac1333, you can do that step when you get network connectivity going
[05:52] <acid-trip> how do i find out what driver my system installed for my ati card?
[05:52] <Madpilot> andrewski, depends on when the bug report was filed, if they didn't actually give a
[05:52] <rixth> !tell acid-trip about atu
[05:53] <rixth> !tell acid-trip about ati
[05:53] <Madpilot> Flight number  :P
[05:53] <andrewski> Madpilot: today
[05:53] <djosiris> kargath64: nforce4?
[05:53] <Madpilot> andrewski, then yes, Flight6
[05:53] <djosiris> kargath64: what hardware IS working?
[05:53] <andrewski> Madpilot: ah, great.  cheers.
[05:53] <kargath64> um, my geforce 6600gt ... somewhat
[05:53] <kargath64> my cdrom
[05:54] <kargath64> usb controller
[05:54] <kargath64> hdd
[05:54] <acid-trip> i really like the look of ubuntu
[05:54] <djosiris> kargath64: did you follow the help on the Ubuntu starter guide for the 6600?
[05:54] <acid-trip> Linux Kitchen 2.6.12-9-386 #1 Mon Oct 10 13:14:36 BST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[05:54] <ubuntu> is ubuntu more secure then windows by default?
[05:54] <kargath64> the main problem is someone at canonical forgot kernel compile version matching driver compiles is a GOOD thing
[05:55] <kargath64> djosiris: it's a circular problem
[05:55] <kargath64> can't connect to synaptic without modem
[05:55] <kargath64> can't use modem with synaptic
[05:55] <kargath64> can't use modem without synaptic
[05:55] <kargath64> *
[05:55] <Madpilot> ubuntu, much
[05:55] <DBO> kargath64, you will need to download the .deb and install it manuallly
[05:56] <slew_> hi, id like to make an audio cd, it tells me it needs plugins, but not which ones. which plugins do i need to burn an audio cd?
[05:56] <kargath64> bah
[05:56] <kargath64> breezy sucks
[05:56] <Madpilot> slew_, what format is the stuff you want to burn in?
[05:57] <slew_> .mp3
[05:57] <kargath64> i'm seriously considering downgrading
[05:57] <djosiris> can someone point me to a(n) nforce 1.0-0310 .deb package?
[05:57] <djosiris> or is that just a wet dream?
[05:57] <Madpilot> slew_, have you enabled mp3 support?
[05:57] <DBO> djosiris, its not that hard to install the nforce drivers
[05:57] <djosiris> or perhaps a faq on nvidia's that wont wreck my networking
[05:57] <djosiris> i was reading the forum does that actually work?
[05:57] <djosiris> alot of people having issues posting to that thread
[05:57] <cloudnet> can someone help me with a printing problem?
[05:57] <slew_> Madpilot, by enabling the repositories? then yes
[05:58] <DBO> djosiris, I installed with wild abandon (I like to live dangerously), worked just fine
[05:58] <Madpilot> slew_, well, you need to actually install the mp3 codecs :P
[05:58] <Madpilot> !tell slew_ about mp3
[05:58] <zac1333> tkup, i should comment out everything in /etc/network/interfaces correct?
[05:58] <cloudnet> only half the page prints... printing to a windows xp machine's print queue using smb
[05:58] <jsestri2> Frogzoo: well it appears to at least not have broken anything i can see
[05:58] <ubuntu> why do mp3s open with totem by default?
[05:58] <cloudnet> Linux Cirrus 2.6.12-10-amd64-generic #1 Sat Mar 11 16:15:30 UTC 2006 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[05:59] <cloudnet> cloudnet@Cirrus:~$ uname -a
[05:59] <acid-trip> ok this is a stupid question but how can i mount my second hard drive to take some pix off of it
[05:59] <DBO> acid-trip, is it a windows drive?
[05:59] <dabaR> acid-trip: man mount? what is the file system type? ntfs - windows?
[06:00] <djosiris> DBO: well wild abandon sounds like my game then
[06:00] <djosiris> it cant possibly mess up any worse than it did on x64 ubuntu
[06:00] <RehanSAlvi> Frogzoo: i wasn't able to get it to work still running it with "live linux acpi=off" and now that i've taken the live CD out and gone back into windows I keep getting error messages saying "attempt to access invalid address"
[06:00] <DBO> acid-trip, "mkdir /mnt/pix; mount -t ntfs /dev/hd?? /mnt/pix"  (you will have to determine the right device)
[06:00] <RehanSAlvi> Frogzoo: any ideas what could be causing it?
[06:00] <DBO> djosiris, thats the spirit!
[06:00] <djosiris> i see nvidia actually provides more instructions for the x32 driver!!@#
[06:01] <bigfoot1> I did a wget on http://www.nature.com/news/2006/060403/multimedia/videosh3.mov but i can't play the file. Can anyone please try it?
[06:01] <DBO> djosiris, exactly the reason I stuck with the 32 bit distro
[06:01] <bigfoot1> i tried with mplayer and with totem. neither works
[06:01] <RehanSAlvi> Frogzoo: i think it has to do with my intel motherboard monitoring program but am not sure
[06:01] <Madpilot> bigfoot1, have you got .mov support installed? Can you play other .movs?
[06:01] <djosiris> i have been out of the linux scene for a couple of years now so am playing some catchup
[06:02] <djosiris> im finding very handy to have prior knowledge (pre 2.2 kernel ;p)
[06:02] <bigfoot1> Madpilot: yes. i can play other .mov files.
[06:02] <slew_> Madpilot, thanks! <3!
[06:02] <Madpilot> slew_, np - mp3s work now/
[06:02] <Madpilot> ?
[06:03] <djosiris> hmm well here goes nuthin rock on DBO
[06:03] <slew_> Madpilot, well i could always listen to them, im about to try the burning of them now.
[06:03] <Emsko> I'm trying to download the latest version of Banshee, and in synaptic an outdated version is listed.. is there a way this can be updated?
[06:03] <Eleaf> hmm
[06:05] <slew_> Madpilot, the burning is successful, thank you for your help.
[06:05] <acid-trip> is there a way i can list my devices through command with the ls command?
[06:05] <Madpilot> slew_, glad it worked! (I actually know spit about mp3, I've got all my music in .ogg instead :P )
[06:05] <DBO> acid-trip, to find the disk the right way, just go System -> Administration -> Disks
[06:06] <DBO> then look for the one that is formated ntfs
[06:06] <DBO> 's/right/easy/'
[06:06] <slew_> Madpilot, one day i will be leet as you. if the gods will it.
[06:07] <acid-trip> uhmm
[06:07] <acid-trip> when i installed ubuntu it didn't ask me for a root pass
[06:07] <acid-trip> :|
[06:07] <Frogzoo> acid-trip: lspci  might help
[06:07] <slew_> acid-trip, we use sudo
[06:07] <ubuntu> is there a way to make rythmbox see a smb share that is an icon on my desktop, its not seeing it when i try to add it to library
[06:07] <DBO> acid-trip, thats right, it doesnt
[06:07] <Madpilot> slew_, actually, the only reason I use only .ogg is because I didn't start ripping my CD collection until I switched to Ubuntu, and .ogg is Ubuntu's default format ;)
[06:07] <DBO> acid-trip, the root account is locked
[06:07] <acid-trip> ok thanks slew_
[06:07] <Madpilot> !tell acid-trip about sudo
[06:08] <bigfoot1> Madpilot: are you able to view the movie file (http://www.nature.com/news/2006/060403/multimedia/videosh3.mov)?
[06:08] <Emsko> I'm trying to download the latest version of Banshee, and in synaptic an outdated version is listed.. is there a way this can be updated?
[06:08] <OrTigaS> okay maybe one can help me :)
[06:08] <inazad> Hi, I want to configure an FTP Server (proftpd)
[06:08] <alex_> should i take the chance and upgrade to drapper?
[06:08] <DBO> Emsko, you will have to find a deb for a newer version, or compile from source
[06:08] <acid-trip> can i past something in here?
[06:08] <inazad> anyone can help me?
[06:08] <chris> DBO check out my website!!
[06:08] <chris> :)
[06:08] <alex_> !tell acid-trip about pastebin
[06:09] <slew_> alex_, i took the plunge and havent looked back. flight 6 is totally worth it!
[06:09] <ubuntu> where do smb mounts show up in the filesystem
[06:09] <acid-trip> nm
[06:09] <DBO> chris, works perfect man!  and I love that song
[06:09] <Madpilot> bigfoot1, nope. wonder if the whole file is borked?
[06:09] <Emsko> DBO, where can I find newer debs?
[06:09] <acid-trip> got it
[06:09] <alex_> slew, did you get XGL working?
[06:09] <acid-trip> i went to system administration disk
[06:09] <slew_> alex_, YES!!
[06:09] <acid-trip> i had to put the path where i wanted it mounted to in there
[06:09] <acid-trip> :D
[06:09] <alex_> can i revert??
[06:09] <Madpilot> inazad, ask an actual question, and you'll probably get actual help
[06:09] <OrTigaS> here nobody try it? listening to internet radio :) i'm having a problem.. its just playing but no sounds... i played in the terminal it wroks... any idea why
[06:09] <alex_> to breezy
[06:09] <chris> DBO was on american idol ;)
[06:09] <Frogzoo> Emsko: don't go there - you'll break your system
[06:10] <slew_> alex_, sure you can, you might have to reinstall breezy, though.
[06:10] <Emsko> ohh.. k?
[06:10] <RehanSAlvi> Frogzoo: ooh, it was the intel desktop utilities program...that was always acting up it seems---got rid of it....was wondering if you had any other ideas on how I could the ubuntu live cd to work.
[06:10] <acid-trip> now to install my ati driver
[06:10] <DBO> chris, I signed your guestbook a bit ago ;)
[06:10] <Emsko> damn linux sure makes installing software difficult
[06:10] <DBO> looks like you already got those images fixed, well done
[06:10] <Frogzoo> RehanSAlvi: no, sorry
[06:10] <Madpilot> Emsko, not at all.
[06:10] <acid-trip> Emsko, not with ubuntu sudo apt-get install program
[06:10] <OrTigaS> here nobody try it? listening to internet radio :) i'm having a problem.. its just playing but no sounds... i played in the terminal it wroks... any idea why
[06:10] <bigfoot1> Madpilot: what's "borked"?
[06:11] <Madpilot> bigfoot1, "broken"
[06:11] <DBO> Frogzoo, how would getting a newer version of uhhh... the program (forgot name) botch the system?
[06:12] <tkup> zac1333, except the lines that lo in them. There are usually two
[06:12] <RehanSAlvi> Frogzoo: thank you anyways. :)
[06:12] <acid-trip> well guys i'm going to head to bed i'll talk to you guys tomorrow
[06:12] <acid-trip> :D
[06:12] <acid-trip> thanks for your help so far
[06:12] <Frogzoo> DBO: well, if you tried installing a debian linux-kernel for starters
[06:13] <inazad> I have downloaded Proftpd with apt-get install proftpd
[06:13] <DBO> erm... I wasnt suggesting he got a debian kernel, just that he could compile a new version from source
[06:13] <inazad> but now, I want to configue it..
[06:13] <inazad> How I can configure the proftpd config file ?
[06:14] <inazad> I wanna help..
[06:14] <tkup> zac1333, I meant the lines that have lo (short for loopback)
[06:14] <alex_> anyone get the new nvidia drivers installed?!
[06:14] <Eleaf> hmm, not on my main machine to test the new ones out
[06:14] <Eleaf> Have the new nvidia drivers been added to the repository or not yet?
[06:15] <Frogzoo> DBO: I think newbs need to know that installing debs rather than going through the repos can cause problems, and should be done cautiously
[06:15] <DBO> Frogzoo, ok, I see what you are getting at, I thought you were getting at something specific to Banshee
[06:15] <RehanSAlvi> if i have two hard drives, my primary SATA one with windows and another one on IDE that I can delete the data on and install UBuntu---can I just pop in the ubuntu install CD and will it let me choose which drive and which partition I install on?
[06:15] <arrick> hey guys
[06:16] <arrick> I finally got the 8 hard drives to work on my server
[06:16] <OrTigaS> RehanSAlvi,  yes
[06:16] <RehanSAlvi> OrTigaS: it won't delete my windows drive data unless i choose that drive, right?
[06:17] <OrTigaS> ur right
[06:17] <Frogzoo> arrick: raid 5? total volume?
[06:17] <cloudnet> i've got printing problems with breezy :(
[06:17] <arrick> Frogzoo, its 1 20 gig, and 1 3 gig and 6 278mb hd's, no raid as of yet
[06:18] <cloudnet> only half the page prints
[06:18] <OrTigaS> i install my ubuntu in my pc which has 2 HD and have installed 2 OS i just partition the other HD and install ubuntu
[06:18] <Blaxtic> cloudnet - go the big d then. ;-)
[06:18] <Frogzoo> cloudnet: wierd - r u sure you have the right cups driver installed?
[06:19] <nomasteryoda> cloudnet, half left, right or top boittom
[06:19] <bluecookies> hi
[06:19] <nomasteryoda> hiya bluecookies
[06:19] <bluecookies> i have a question
[06:19] <DBO> ask away
[06:19] <bluecookies> hi DBO
[06:19] <cloudnet> does anyone actually print with ubuntu?
[06:20] <nomasteryoda> cloudnet, lol yes
[06:20] <DBO> cloudnet, yeah, I do =P
[06:20] <nomasteryoda> i do
[06:20] <bluecookies> why there isn't shockwave for linux
[06:20] <arrick> yes cloudnet you just have to do your research on printers is all
[06:20] <nomasteryoda> yup
[06:20] <nomasteryoda> bluecookies, nope
[06:20] <Rhine> Anyone know why im getting a missing image error when i start ubuntu it forces me to a command line as soon as stuff loads
[06:20] <nomasteryoda> flash only
[06:20] <DBO> bluecookies, same reason lots of software isnt for linux, its not a big enough user base for home users
[06:20] <Frogzoo> cloudnet: printing with cups is excellent - what printer have you got, & which cups driver r u using?
[06:21] <nomasteryoda> DBO, well that may be true, but they did it for Flash and Adobe
[06:21] <nomasteryoda> acrobat
[06:21] <arrick> or did you write your own driver cloudnet
[06:21] <dabaR> shockwave flash...:-/
[06:21] <cloudnet> espon stylus 760 on win xp sp2
[06:21] <cloudnet> printing over smb
[06:21] <arrick> nu uh
[06:22] <bluecookies> so i can't open a web that include shockwave plugin with it
[06:22] <Rhine> Can someone help i just installed and i went through the whole thing, on the first start up it gets to the part with all the hings that say [ok]  then it gives me an error about some images cant load and makes me go to a text only command line
[06:22] <Frogzoo> cloudnet: and are you using a 760 cups driver?
[06:22] <Syndrome> Hey, can someone here help me with sudo? It doesn't like me.
[06:22] <cloudnet> yes
[06:22] <DBO> bluecookies, what website?
[06:22] <iloom> where do i go to add new resolutions to my display?
[06:23] <bluecookies> liveconnector.com
[06:23] <Frogzoo> !tell iloom about xorg
[06:23] <arrick> !res
[06:23] <ubotu> from memory, res is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:23] <arrick> iloom, ^^^look up
[06:23] <iloom> k...
[06:23] <Rhine> Can someone help me? Please?
[06:23] <iloom> thanks
[06:24] <Blaxtic> what's up?
[06:24] <arrick> Rhine, did you verify the md5sum on your disc?
[06:24] <arrick> !patience
[06:24] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Please be aware there are a lot of questions, but only maybe few who might know the answer for you. Please be patient. Your attitude may determine their willingness to help you.
[06:24] <Syndrome> I forgot to set a root password when I installed Ubuntu. Is that bad?
[06:24] <bluecookies> DBO: www.liveconnector.com/chat
[06:24] <arrick> ther is no root password
[06:24] <arrick> haha
[06:24] <arrick> !root
[06:24] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[06:24] <ralpho> expert install there is
[06:24] <DBO> bluecookies, wow that site is slow...
[06:25] <Emsko> Anyone here know how I can get the music from my iPod onto my computer using Rhythmbox?
[06:25] <bluecookies> yeah
[06:25] <arrick> ralpho, how any people that come in here are experts with ubuntu their first time?
[06:25] <bluecookies> its from indonesian
[06:25] <Syndrome> Hmm. So the password totally doesn't matter even if I do set it?
[06:25] <Emsko> Or any way I can get the music from my iPod onto my comp?
[06:25] <Rhine> Arrick im kinda new to all this i just ran the install with pressing enter at the first prompt
[06:25] <DBO> Syndrome, no, if you set a password, the root account will be unlocked
[06:25] <ralpho> I did the expert install because i was hoping for more pak to install
[06:26] <bluecookies> in my country (indonesia), liveconnector is a popular web
[06:26] <Blaxtic> syndrome - use your own password - with sudo
[06:26] <arrick> thats good
[06:26] <DBO> Syndrome, you do not want to do that
[06:26] <DBO> Syndrome, what Blaxtic said, use sudo
[06:26] <arrick> Rhine, thats the way most people do it
[06:26] <arrick> when you run a command entry just type sudo before everything
[06:27] <alex_> what's a good video editing program
[06:27] <Syndrome> I try to use sudo, but it returns the error "sudo: unable to lookup ubuntu via getbyhostname()". What does that mean?
[06:27] <arrick> ralpho, do you mean the "server" install?
[06:27] <Rhine> No i cant load the graphics on startup it gives me a grey box and it asks if i want an error report and then takes me to the command line with no graphics
[06:27] <ralpho> no just expert mode
[06:27] <Syndrome> *I named the computer ubuntu, by the way.
[06:27] <arrick> your sources list needs to be edited Syndrome
[06:28] <arrick> !sources
[06:28] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[06:28] <bluecookies> DBO, so there isn't ways to solve shockwave problems
[06:28] <phrowzen> what is the service that monitors package updates? for some reason its not running for me right now, and i dont want to restart
[06:28] <ralpho> in text mode type expert
[06:28] <Syndrome> Is that something I can do without superuser privleges, arrick?
[06:28] <DBO> bluecookies, i dont know really
[06:28] <ralpho> esc to get out of th setup screen
[06:28] <arrick> can you gedit?
[06:28] <bluecookies> DBO, thanks
[06:29] <Rhine> are you guys talking to me?
[06:29] <DBO> bluecookies, if the site would load, I might be able to help some more
[06:29] <ralpho> he could go to users and groups and show all users
[06:29] <ralpho> select root and make a password
[06:29] <Emsko> Anyone here know how I can get the music from my iPod onto my computer?
[06:29] <ralpho> go to login window and allow root login
[06:30] <ralpho> done
[06:30] <Rhine> Emsko you could use winampe and transfer in windows and mount the drive in linux
[06:30] <Madpilot> ralpho, not a good idea at all...
[06:30] <bluecookies> DBO, does wine would works with games on-line
[06:30] <ralpho> if you want root thats how
[06:30] <George007> my windows isn't loading anymore ... it's not in grub.. for some reason
[06:31] <DBO> bluecookies, you mean flash games?  I think so...
[06:31] <ralpho> not that root is a good idea
[06:31] <arrick> hey George007 did you load windows first?
[06:31] <Frogzoo> cloudnet: try this driver instead: Gutenprint v5.0.0-rc2
[06:31] <Emsko> Rhine, all I have is ubuntu on here
[06:31] <George007> grub arrick
[06:31] <Rhine> Oh o.O
[06:31] <Rhine> Then
[06:31] <Syndrome> arrick: What's the file I need to edit, and what line should I add?
[06:31] <Rhine> theres a hidden folder
[06:31] <arrick> /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:31] <bluecookies> DBO, not flash game
[06:31] <sun_> i get this error when trying to change screen resolution: "The X Server does not support the XRandR extension. "
[06:32] <sun_> what can i fix it?
[06:32] <Blaxtic> stick with sudo - never go root...
[06:32] <bluecookies> but game-online like ragnarok
[06:32] <George007> arrick, it got replaced by something else
[06:32] <DBO> bluecookies, you mean like an online video game... well I know for a fact World of Warcraft works...
[06:32] <arrick> Syndrome, you can check out this page
[06:32] <George007> I'll paste it
[06:32] <arrick> !sources
[06:32] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[06:32] <DBO> bluecookies, it really depends on the game, not everything works, some stuff works really well, all I can say is try
[06:32] <George007> arrick, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11732
[06:32] <bluecookies> yeah, for WoW i already test it
[06:32] <Rhine> Emsko does your ipod show up when you connect it? If so go to Ipod_control folder\music
[06:33] <Rhine> and drag that where ever you want
[06:33] <Rhine> those are all your music files
[06:33] <cloudnet> Frogzoo: where do I find  Gutenprint v5.0.0-rc2 ?
[06:33] <bluecookies> but for other games, wine won't work great
[06:33] <Syndrome> Sorry, I'm new to linux... Will it tell me what I need to know if I type !sources into a terminal?
[06:33] <arrick> yep George007 you accidently deleted windows
[06:33] <arrick> ouch
[06:33] <DBO> bluecookies, you could try Cedega
[06:33] <jbn-o> Anyone having a problem with Thunderbird opening a browser other than that selected in PreferredApplications?
[06:33] <ralpho> ouch
[06:33] <arrick> DBO check this out
[06:33] <Madpilot> Syndrome, nope - the !sources thing is a command to the bot here in #ubuntu
[06:33] <bluecookies> DBO, yes i've try
[06:33] <Madpilot> !sources
[06:33] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[06:33] <sun_> does anyone use a widescreen monitor like 1680x1050?
[06:33] <arrick> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11732 DBO
[06:34] <bluecookies> still it won't work
[06:34] <Rhine> Wonder if someone can help me with this one. I get an X Server error before i reach the login and it wont load for me
[06:34] <Syndrome> !sources
[06:34] <arrick> syndrome look ^^
[06:34] <George007> arrick,  I didn't touch this... I updated ubuntu last night, and it vanished... how can I get it back?
[06:34] <ralpho> now you can partition that space for more linux room :)
[06:34] <DBO> arrick, so what about it?
[06:34] <Madpilot> Syndrome, ubotu posted above with the info you need - look under my !sources post ^^^
[06:34] <arrick> reinstall windows and then install ubuntu George007
[06:34] <Emsko> Rhine, all the folder and files are given names like f04 and DIUE.mp3... any way to decode it back to the nice and pretty names I had under itunes on windows?
[06:34] <jbn-o> When I click a link in Thunderbird, it always opens Konqueror regardless of what browser is selected in my Preferred Applications preference panel.  This is on Ubuntu Dapper Drake prerelease.
[06:34] <arrick> DBO, he had a dual boot with windows
[06:34] <George007> OMG arrick  =(
[06:34] <bluecookies> DBO, thanks for your great help
[06:34] <Blaxtic> sundrome - don't forget about: http://www.apt-get.org/
[06:34] <arrick> yeah
[06:34] <Rhine> Not really
[06:35] <Syndrome> Oh. I get it now!
[06:35] <Rhine> it will have to be manual
[06:35] <Rhine> thats the simplest way though
[06:35] <George007> arrick, windows still exists, I can get on c, it's just not in the boot anymore
[06:35] <arrick> ok
[06:35] <DBO> bluecookies, you mean telling you what you already knew:-P  sorry I wasnt any help
[06:35] <Steil> anyone have a favourite theme they'd like to share?
[06:35] <arrick> !grub
[06:35] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[06:35] <Frogzoo> cloudnet: try 'sudo apt-get foomatic-db'
[06:35] <DBO> arrick, yeah, that sucks
[06:35] <Emsko> jeez... 15 gigs of music
[06:35] <arrick> George007, ^^
[06:35] <cloudnet> thanks
[06:35] <Madpilot> Syndrome, ubotu is a bot, it saves us from remembering dozens of URLs & stuff :P
[06:35] <Rhine> Ill look for something for you Emsko
[06:35] <intelikey> sudo: can't open /etc/sudoers: Permission denied
[06:35] <arrick> ok,gonna talk to my aunt for a bit
[06:35] <intelikey> ?
[06:35] <Emsko> thanks Rhine
[06:36] <intelikey> -r--r-----  1 root root 320 Apr  7 23:22 /etc/sudoers
[06:36] <ralpho> title Windows 2000
[06:36] <ralpho> 	rootnoverify (hd0,0)
[06:36] <ralpho> 	chainloader
[06:36] <bluecookies> DBO, chat with you is a grear help for me.... THANKS
[06:36] <intelikey> what's up with that error message ?
[06:36] <ralpho> =1
[06:36] <ralpho> +1
[06:36] <Syndrome> Okay, sorry. Do I need to read the part about adding repositories, or the official sources.lists?
[06:36] <Rhine> Emsko
[06:36] <dabaR> intelikey: sudo visudo?
[06:36] <Rhine> GUIpod!
[06:37] <Syndrome> Heh, nevermind, stupid question. :)
[06:37] <Madpilot> Syndrome, both - the first for the explanations, the 2nd for the actual info you need
[06:37] <Rhine> http://guipod.sourceforge.net/
[06:37] <tk401> i love windows xp, it's the best operating system ever!!! *barf*
[06:37] <intelikey> dabar sudo wont open anything
[06:37] <Rhine> Hope someone helps me now o.O
[06:37] <cloudnet> root@Cirrus:~# apt-get install foomatic-db
[06:37] <cloudnet> Reading package lists... Done
[06:37] <cloudnet> Building dependency tree... Done
[06:37] <cloudnet> foomatic-db is already the newest version.
[06:37] <cloudnet> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[06:37] <dabaR> intelikey: sudo visudo
[06:37] <intelikey> i can edit sudo if that makes you feel better dabaR
[06:37] <Madpilot> !pastebin
[06:37] <ubotu> it has been said that pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[06:37] <cloudnet> what else could i try?
[06:37] <Blaxtic> synrome - use synaptic - it's pretty straight forward...
[06:37] <bluecookies> DBO, bye
[06:37] <DBO> bye bluecookies
[06:37] <intelikey> sudo visudo
[06:37] <intelikey> sudo: can't open /etc/sudoers: Permission denied
[06:37] <intelikey> tty2 [root#~]  postdrop: warning: unable to look up public/pickup: No such file or directory
[06:38] <Rhine> Emsko did you get that link?
[06:38] <Emsko> yeah looks good Rhine  thanks a lot
[06:38] <dabaR> intelikey: rescue mode? Recovery or whatever it is called in grub when you reboot...
[06:38] <Syndrome> Cool, thanks. I'll boot ubuntu to see if I can get this working.
[06:38] <Blaxtic> damn this channel is hoppin tonight...
[06:38] <Rhine> no problem enjoy your music and rock on :)
[06:38] <intelikey> dabar  NO !
[06:38] <tk401> Blaxtic, yes, 625 souls on board
[06:38] <dabaR> intelikey: free the whales.
[06:38] <intelikey>  i was running sudo as root
[06:39] <ralpho> doh
[06:39] <dabaR> intelikey: just visudo?
[06:39] <intelikey> dabar ok i have it open  now what ?
[06:39] <pulgoki> is turning ubuntu into kunbunto agonizing or is it a smooth transfer?
[06:39] <Rhine> Meh someone help plz? I get an X Server error on startup and says it cant load the graphics and goes to text only mode
[06:39] <dabaR> intelikey: what are you trying to do?
[06:40] <tk401> pulgoki, it's really easy
[06:40] <dabaR> Rhine: what graphs card?
[06:40] <intelikey> get sudo to work
[06:40] <dabaR> intelikey: add yourself to the file.
[06:40] <Rhine> 9200 se PCI
[06:40] <mwright1> hi
[06:40] <Rhine> I also have a built in VGA
[06:40] <intelikey> root is there already
[06:40] <Blaxtic> pulgoki - easy
[06:40] <pulgoki> tk401: is the transfer back easy if you dont like kde?
[06:40] <DBO> hi mwright1
[06:40] <mwright1> has anyone here got ubuntu 5.10 and can test something for me, I have a launchpad bug in and need the same thing tested wth 5.1
[06:40] <intelikey> root    ALL=(ALL) ALL
[06:40] <Rhine> should i startup with the built in one?
[06:40] <dabaR> intelikey        ALL=(ALL) ALL
[06:40] <intelikey> dabar so why can't root run sudo ?
[06:40] <tk401> pulgoki, you would have to save the names of the packages you install so that you can delete them later
[06:40] <Madpilot> Rhine, is the builtin card disabled in BIOS?
[06:40] <Frogzoo> cloudnet: try 'sudo apt-get cupsys-driver-gimpprint '
[06:41] <tk401> if you want to get rid of everything that is
[06:41] <dabaR> intelikey: why do you need to run sudo with root?
[06:41] <Rhine> yeah
[06:41] <Blaxtic> pulgoki - that won't matter - you'll love it. ;-)
[06:41] <Rhine> the pci one is enabled
[06:41] <pulgoki> haha
[06:41] <Madpilot> mwright1, I've got Breezy - pm me if you want
[06:41] <pulgoki> well, i dig gnome
[06:41] <mwright1> I need someone to create a group, then to make a directory have the group permissions then chmod g+s /directory
[06:41] <tk401> anyone running dapper here?
[06:41] <dabaR> !dapper
[06:41] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[06:41] <pulgoki> but i would like to try kde also
[06:41] <intelikey> for auto login to work for user rather than root
[06:41] <pulgoki> just want to make sure i can change back if i want
[06:41] <mwright1> then use cp /home/yourhome/file /directory; ls -la
[06:41] <pulgoki> so i have to take gdm out of init.d?
[06:42] <pulgoki> so = do
[06:42] <mwright1> then do the same with cp -a then finally do the same as a drag and drop with nautilus and check the permissions each time
[06:42] <tk401> pulgoki, you don't have to worry about all those details, it does it for you
[06:42] <JRlinux> Need wireless broadcom 4318 support... Hope Ubuntu is going to have it
[06:42] <pulgoki> haha
[06:42] <Blaxtic> tk401 - yep
[06:42] <mwright1> madpilot: can you check that?
[06:42] <pulgoki> well lets make it too simple
[06:42] <pulgoki> :p
[06:42] <dabaR> Rhine: what is a 9200 se? is that a ATI?
[06:42] <pulgoki> ok
[06:42] <intelikey> init script line   sudo -u user startx     dabar   but if sudo wont work that is hosed.
[06:42] <Madpilot> mwright1, yeah, just give me a second
[06:42] <tk401> pulgoki, it will install kdm for you hehehe, so you better like it!!! just kiddding :-)
[06:42] <dabaR> JRlinux: In dapper it works:) I got it set up today.
[06:42] <pulgoki> well, what if i want to go back, do i have to re-add gdm to init.d?
[06:43] <dabaR> JRlinux: dapper is not released yet, though, so you may want to wait if you need the computer working reliably.
[06:43] <pulgoki> i dont want to re-install gnome
[06:43] <pulgoki> i would just like to revert back
[06:43] <tk401> pulgoki, you can have both kde and gnome
[06:43] <JRlinux> dabaR, Really?  I have dapper live and no luck on my compaq v257572 presario.  Hmmmm
[06:43] <Rhine> Madpilot i think i found a solution thanks for your time
[06:43] <intelikey> and as root  that command returns "sudo: can't open /etc/sudoers: Permission denied"  dabar
[06:43] <JRlinux> dabaR, OK
[06:43] <dabaR> JRlinux: did you install the driver?
[06:43] <tk401> pulgoki, side by side, so you can switch to whatever you want any time
[06:43] <pulgoki> i guess i'll just add kde and worry about the detail later i guess
[06:43] <Blaxtic> pulgoki - or just download the live CD from www.kubuntu.org
[06:43] <pulgoki> cool
[06:43] <JRlinux> dabaR, which driver?
[06:43] <Rhine> Once i type this in sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg What else should i know to do?
[06:44] <dabaR> !bcm43xx
[06:44] <tk401> pulgoki, the only thing is that you'll see some kde applications in gnome
[06:44] <ubotu> To use your broadcom or airport extreme card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx for info and firmware.
[06:44] <tk401> pulgoki, and vise-versa
[06:44] <Blaxtic> pulgoki - and test it out without modification to your existing system
[06:44] <pulgoki> ahh
[06:44] <pulgoki> no problem there
[06:44] <pulgoki> Blaxtic: thanks
[06:44] <pulgoki> im not too worries about that
[06:44] <JRlinux> dabaR, then you need to energize ndiswrapper?
[06:44] <pulgoki> im ok moving things around
[06:44] <dabaR> intelikey: I don't understand your issue. Root does not need sudo, that is simply wrong:), but maybe it is needed on that issue.
[06:44] <pulgoki> just wondering what im in for
[06:44] <tk401> but kde isn't much for me, i'm trying to be a fluxbox whore :-)
[06:44] <dabaR> JRlinux: nope, there is a .deb cafuego built that works nice.
[06:45] <tk401> pulgoki, i hope you enjoy it!
[06:45] <dabaR> JRlinux: It is all experimental and buggy, but it connects, even with wpa.
[06:45] <tk401> pulgoki, ubuntu makes it easy to do whatever you want, that's the beauty
[06:45] <JRlinux> Wow, OK.  Thanks dabaR
[06:45] <intelikey> dabar fot any idea why root #  sudo <blah>    returns  "sudo: can't open /etc/sudoers: Permission denied"   with  ls -l /etc/sudoers    "-r--r-----  1 root root 320 Apr  7 23:22 /etc/sudoers"  ?
[06:45] <cloudnet> this doesn't seem to solve my half page printout problem...
[06:45] <cloudnet> root@Cirrus:~# apt-get install cupsys-driver-gimpprint
[06:45] <cloudnet> Reading package lists... Done
[06:45] <cloudnet> Building dependency tree... Done
[06:45] <cloudnet> cupsys-driver-gimpprint is already the newest version.
[06:45] <cloudnet> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[06:45] <dabaR> cloudnet: we don't paste here.
[06:45] <cloudnet> sorry
[06:46] <cloudnet> i did
[06:46] <tk401> !pastebin
[06:46] <ubotu> from memory, pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[06:46] <Blaxtic> lol
[06:46] <dabaR> intelikey: it has same permissions here. Would you like my file on a pastebin?
[06:46] <tk401> :-)
[06:46] <Frogzoo> cloudnet: u sure you picked the right driver? there's 2 x 760s in there
[06:47] <intelikey> maybe it's /etc that is to tight for it to read?
[06:47] <cloudnet> not in my list
[06:47] <dominic_> halow
[06:47] <dabaR> intelikey: show me:)
[06:47] <cloudnet> i'll check again...
[06:47] <dabaR> intelikey: ls -ld /etc
[06:47] <muraii> 'ello.
[06:47] <cloudnet> what resolution should i be using?
[06:47] <dabaR> intelikey: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11734 is my sudoers.
[06:47] <cloudnet> currently default
[06:47] <dominic_> can i install dapper drake onto my existing brezy badger using internet
[06:47] <dabaR> intelikey: my root can sudo.
[06:47] <intelikey> 755 i just set it
[06:48] <dj-fu> yes
[06:48] <dj-fu> dominic_, you certainly can
[06:48] <dabaR> Mine is 755 too
[06:48] <Frogzoo> cloudnet: 'add printer' again - but choose the 2nd driver in the list 'gimp-print'
[06:48] <dominic_> coz i dont hav a cd of dapper drake
[06:48] <dominic_> and i hav full speed of internet acces
[06:48] <dj-fu> dominic_, I can give you a one liner to perform the upgrade if you'd like
[06:48] <intelikey> i'm setting it back to 001  like i had it.  that's not the problem.
[06:48] <dj-fu> it will take a while (700+mb)
[06:48] <tk401> anyone try nubuntu yet?
[06:49] <dominic_> yes thanks you help me
[06:49] <dj-fu> LOL. Nubuntu
[06:49] <dj-fu> dominic_, right, `sudo sed -ie "s/breezy/dapper/g" /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade`
[06:49] <dabaR> 001?? that is no permissions except execute for all.
[06:49] <intelikey> yep
[06:50] <intelikey> most of my /dirs are  001
[06:50] <dabaR> suckaaas!
[06:50] <intelikey> including  /
[06:50] <dabaR> Good idea, I guesses.
[06:50] <jenatmcds> Still having a horrible slow time with install breezy on IBM Aptiva 13 hours and at 17% of format ext3 /
[06:51] <intelikey> root doesn't need permission and users dont need out of /home   soooo
[06:51] <Frogzoo> jenatmcds: serious problem - not worth continuing install until you fix it - is the drive failing? problems reading cd?
[06:51] <dominic_> in a terminal dj-fu: sudo sed -ie "s/breezy/dapper/g/" /etc/apt/source.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:51] <Blaxtic> jenatmcds - do a low level format first
[06:52] <jenatmcds> don't know I have installed off that CD before but this is a new drive
[06:52] <intelikey> dabar can you dcc me a copy of your sudoers  ?
[06:52] <dj-fu> dominic_, yes, in a terminal
[06:52] <ralpho> I had that trouble when it was reformating an exsiting drive
[06:52] <dabaR> intelikey: you don't like pastebin?
[06:52] <Frogzoo> cloudnet: echo?
[06:52] <Blaxtic> jenatmcds - do a low level format through bios first
[06:52] <intelikey> it will change the markup
[06:52] <ralpho> I reinstalled and deleted and remounted and it worked right. :0
[06:53] <dominic_> do i nid to include to quotation mark "s/breezy/dapper/g/"
[06:53] <jenatmcds> thanks Blaxtic - I think I will try that - I have been so frustrated
[06:53] <dj-fu> dominic_, yes, that's the sed expression - it needs to be quoted
[06:53] <intelikey> no no dabar
[06:53] <dabaR> I am not good with IRC, and I am in irssi
[06:53] <intelikey> /dcc.send /etc/sudoers
[06:53] <Blaxtic> jenatmcds - i had that same problem on one of my laptops - that's the only thing that fixed it.
[06:54] <Jorje> hey, can someone help me? Trying to run a wireless LAN driver on my Ubuntu
[06:54] <dominic_> ahhhhh ic "how about my files in home and my network configuration also my samba sharing to my network?
[06:54] <dominic_> i cant be affected
[06:55] <Blaxtic> jorje - by any chance is it broadcom?
[06:55] <Jorje> no, Intel Pro 2200BG
[06:55] <Prak> i need some help configuring my internet connection
[06:55] <intelikey> ooops retry that, this user had no ddc download dir.
[06:55] <Blaxtic> jorje - sorry, can't help with that one.
[06:56] <dabaR> haha, I screwed my sudoers up now.
[06:56] <Prak> i use a d-link DSL-300G modem, and i tried to follow the procedure in
[06:56] <intelikey> hehhe i think it went to dev/null
[06:56] <Smerity> Prak - you need to tell us what the problem is =)
[06:56] <Prak> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=11544&page=2
[06:56] <dabaR> I can not sudo:( Whatever, Ill deal with it later.
[06:56] <Jorje> k, thx
[06:56] <Prak> but i can't modify the file
[06:56] <Prak> i got the dns for my dhcp from the isp
[06:56] <Prak> but can't modify that file
[06:56] <alex_> does anyone know why azureus wont start? http://pastebin.com/647350
[06:56] <intelikey> thank you.
[06:56] <Prak> i can't connect to the internet
[06:56] <dabaR> I screwed mine up. You get a permission error?
[06:57] <dominic_> DJ-Fu  "how about my files in home and my network configuration also my samba sharing to my network?
[06:58] <dj-fu> dominic_, what?
[06:58] <dominic_> dj-fu  http://www.macewan.org/2006/02/23/upgrading-breezy-to-dapper/
[06:58] <dominic_> how about that instructions
[06:58] <intelikey> dabar that didn't change a thing here.  i still get "sudo: can't open /etc/sudoers: Permission denied "
[06:59] <intelikey> you say you broke yours too dabaR ?
[06:59] <dabaR> intelikey: what permissions do you have on it anyhow? I screwed mine up now:-/
[06:59] <intelikey> 440
[06:59] <dabaR> Ya. It won't let me sudo cause I have 0444 permissions.
[06:59] <dj-fu> dominic_, that's what mine did - except mines a oneliner, making it so much cooler.
[06:59] <dabaR> sudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0444, should be 0440
[06:59] <rob_p> intelikey:  What perms does your /  dir have?
[06:59] <intelikey> 001
[07:00] <DrawLt> I can't connect to ubuntu 5.10 from OS X 10.4.6 using connect to server.  I have shared a folder from my home dir in ubuntu and have set up "shared folders" in system>admin, OS X asks for a password when I try to connect to smb://etc... but then I get an error 43 from OS X
[07:00] <DrawLt> please help
[07:00] <dominic_> how about the problem about x-window after installing dapper drake
[07:00] <Prak> i'm currently using ubuntu 5.10 right now
[07:00] <dabaR> DrawLt: why not use ssh?
[07:01] <intelikey> so dabaR you have a root passwd or are you in for a reboot ?
[07:01] <GuardianAtomos> Hi. Am I allowed to ask for help in this channel?
[07:01] <DrawLt> dabaR: what is ssh?
[07:01] <dabaR> intelikey: reboot.
[07:01] <_jason> GuardianAtomos: yes
[07:01] <Blaxtic> there's prolly too much going on right now for me to really ask this question - maybe is a bit too deep...   i'm going to do it anyway however... hehheh :-)  why isn't ubuntu/kubuntu supporting/including FreeNX in the Big D?
[07:01] <intelikey> heh figures
[07:01] <DrawLt> dabaR: I don't use it cause I don't know about it
[07:01] <dominic_> dj-fu is that not too risky when used that command line
[07:01] <intelikey> mine is long and a pain to type in but i always have a root passwd
[07:01] <dj-fu> dominic_, just as risky as doing it his way
[07:02] <intelikey> i think is like 50 something chars
[07:02] <dj-fu> DrawLt, you have to use smbpasswd -a <your linux user account> - then you'll be able to login to the machine from osx with your username and password
[07:02] <DrawLt> did that already
[07:02] <dominic_> but your suggestion i mean your command :: is just easy
[07:02] <DrawLt> set the password
[07:02] <IcemanV9> intelikey: check your /etc/group to see if your username is added to "admin" line
[07:02] <dj-fu> shouldn't be any problem then
[07:02] <dominic_> you can assure no problems comes up..
[07:02] <GuardianAtomos> I would search the forums, but I have no clue what my problem is...I just installed Ubuntu 5.10 on an older machine...Celeron 1GHz with 256MB RAM...pretty basic. The entire installation was successful and it did all the first-boot procedures...but now the computer is frozen with a cursor line in the upper left corner (but it's not blinking). I can't access any of the other TTY sessions.
[07:02] <OrTigaS> here nobody try it? listening to internet radio :) i'm having a problem.. its just playing but no sounds... i played in the terminal it wroks... any idea why
[07:02] <GuardianAtomos> The same thing happened with the Live CD.
[07:02] <alex_> what's the command to extract somthing to another folder
[07:03] <IcemanV9> intelikey: then you should be able to use sudo command
[07:03] <intelikey> IcemanV9 i assume that root is
[07:03] <GuardianAtomos> I have a hunch that it has something to do with the X server, because I can boot into "recovery" mode or whatever it's called.
[07:03] <dominic_> but your suggestion i mean your command :: is just easy    >>> you can assure no problems comes up..
[07:03] <DrawLt> OS X doesn't say there is a prob with the password it says "the operation cannot be completed because one or more required items cannot be found (error code -43)"
[07:03] <intelikey> IcemanV9 besides root is explicitly in sudoers
[07:03] <dominic_> after i upgrading dapper to breezy
[07:03] <dabaR> intelikey: :(
[07:03] <intelikey> IcemanV9 it's not a group issue
[07:04] <dj-fu> DrawLt, OSX is probably the problem :{
[07:04] <arrick> evening DrawLt
[07:04] <intelikey> dabar it needs a break.....
[07:04] <DrawLt> arrick: hey
[07:04] <GuardianAtomos> I also don't know what logs I should look at. :-\
[07:04] <arrick> you get your problem fixed? DrawLt
[07:04] <alex_> what's the command to get the root file browser
[07:04] <_jason> intelikey: 50 something cars?  is it like a song or something so you can remember it?
[07:04] <GuardianAtomos> I really want to use Ubuntu...heard so many good things about it. :) But if I can't figure it out...I'll have to try another distro I guess.
[07:04] <IcemanV9> intelikey: in my group file -> admin:x:106:ubuntu,icemanv9 AND in my sudoers file -> %admin  ALL=(ALL) ALL
[07:05] <dominic_> huuuuuuuuuhhhhhh a lot of erros
[07:05] <_jason> chars even
[07:05] <DrawLt> nope, i've been away from my linux system for a few days (exam studying)
[07:05] <dominic_> huuuuuuuuuhhhhhh a lot of errors Dj - FU
[07:05] <dabaR> This makes me sad. Later:)
[07:05] <rob_p> intelikey:  Your / should be 755.  If it isn't, then you need to change it (chmod 755 /).  However without sudo, you'll probably have to boot into recovery mode to get a root console.
[07:05] <intelikey> dabar if you had been running for that long you would want a restart
[07:05] <DrawLt> still stuck at getting that error message saying that one or more items are missing
[07:05] <odin__> how do you install something that you've downloaded rather than got through apt-get?\
[07:05] <Prak> does anyone know how to configure dhcp on adsl?
[07:05] <odin__> go*
[07:05] <_jason> odin__: what are you trying to install?
[07:05] <intelikey> rob_p why does my / need to be 755 ?
[07:05] <dominic_> dj-fu
[07:06] <odin__> d1x-rebirth
[07:06] <dominic_> can i used the pastebin to my output
[07:06] <odin__> _jason: d1x-rebirth
[07:06] <intelikey> rob_p  i set it to 001 over a weak ago,  that's not the issue.
[07:06] <DrawLt> any ideas?
[07:06] <dj-fu> dominic_, sure, what's the problem?
[07:06] <arrick> yeah anybody can use pastebin dominic_
[07:07] <_jason> odin__: is it something you need to compile?
[07:07] <odin__> _jason:  I think so
[07:07] <_jason> ubotu: tell odin__ about compile
[07:07] <_jason> odin__: by the way an apt-cache search turned up: freebirth - Bass synthesizer/sample player/sequencer similar to Rebirth
[07:07] <intelikey> rob_p
[07:07] <intelikey> tty2 [root#~]  chmod 777 /
[07:07] <intelikey> tty2 [root#~]  sudo echo bob
[07:07] <intelikey> sudo: can't open /etc/sudoers: Permission denied
[07:07] <lutra> any recommendations on a nice rss feeder for gnome?
[07:08] <ubuntu> alguem do brasil??
[07:08] <OrTigaS> _jason,  any idea with my problem RE: internet radio (Fm/Am)
[07:08] <_jason> !br
[07:08] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[07:08] <_jason> OrTigaS: did you try reducing the cache size mplayer-plugin uses?
[07:08] <mau> alguem do barsil?
[07:08] <_jason> OrTigaS: make it 50kb for that site
[07:08] <odin__> _jason:  how do I know if I need to compile it or not?
[07:08] <_jason> mau: /join #ubuntu-br
[07:08] <Prak> does anyone know how to configure dhcp on adsl?
[07:09] <_jason> odin__: did you download a source tarball?
[07:09] <OrTigaS> it just only audio...why with the video it works?
[07:09] <rob_p> intelikey:  Can you open your /etc/sudoers file with visudo?
[07:09] <_jason> OrTigaS: it is because those particular servers are slow
[07:09] <dominic_> somebody can make help me
[07:09] <odin__> _jason:  I think so
[07:09] <_jason> dominic_: you need to aska  question
[07:09] <_jason> odin__: link me?
[07:09] <OrTigaS> how can i change that
[07:09] <OrTigaS> reduce the cache
[07:10] <mau> checking for gcc... no
[07:10] <mau> checking for cc...  does anybody knows what is this?
[07:10] <_jason> OrTigaS: can you right click on the mplayer plugin and choose configure or settings?  (I am not sure you can)
[07:10] <GuardianAtomos> Does anyone know why my system freezes at the very end of the boot sequence...blank screen with a frozen cursor in the top left corner.
[07:10] <_jason> mau: 'sudo aptitude install build-essential'
[07:10] <GuardianAtomos> I have to force the system off.
[07:10] <OrTigaS> :)
[07:10] <intelikey> rob_p yes
[07:10] <mau> jason: just type these words?
[07:10] <_jason> mau: sim
[07:10] <alex_> what's the command to get the root file browser again
[07:10] <odin__> _jason: http://www.dxx-rebirth.de/
[07:11] <odin__> _jason:  nvm though, I just found out that I have some missing files
[07:11] <_jason> odin__: k
[07:12] <OrTigaS> it only 221 can
[07:12] <intelikey> rob_p well actually with mcedit  i don't have any "alternatives"  so visudo errors out with "visudo: no editor found (editor path = /usr/bin/editor)"  but i can edit it.
[07:12] <alex_> _jason what's the command to get root console again
[07:12] <OrTigaS> after that it zero
[07:12] <mau> valeu!
[07:12] <alex_> i mean file browser
[07:12] <newbuntu> hello
[07:12] <_jason> alex_: sudo -i
[07:12] <inazad> I can't make... comand not found.. help me!!!
[07:12] <newbuntu> how do you add a program to startup in ubunto kde/
[07:12] <harisund> Does anybody know the command to lock the screen?
[07:12] <_jason> alex_: gksduo nautilus, be careful...
[07:12] <harisund> inazad: You will have to install the make package. try installing "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[07:12] <stpere> is libc2.3.5 backward compatible with libc2.2.14?
[07:13] <alex_> _jason, installing azureus in opt
[07:13] <inazad> thx
[07:13] <zenbum> harisund: shutdown -p now
[07:13] <newbuntu> im trying to add ktorrent to startup in kde
[07:13] <mau> _jason:  ubuntu@ubuntu:/$ sudo aptitude install build-essential
[07:13] <harisund> zenbum: I dont' want to shut down.
[07:13] <mau> sudo: aptitude: command not found
[07:14] <_jason> mau: weird... try apt-get instead of aptitude
[07:14] <harisund> zenbum: I only want to lock the screen (so that the beared man asks for a password..)
[07:14] <mau> thanks
[07:14] <inazad> I have another question... I just got all the stock to have a webserver in localhost but I have a problem...
[07:14] <intelikey> rob_p i made a symlink and now visudo opens it fine.
[07:15] <inazad> it dont read the file, it download it..
[07:15] <newbuntu> can anyone please tell me how to add a program to startup in kde ubuntu?
[07:15] <DrawLt> anyone have any ideas on how to fix this problem i'm having with connecting OS X 10.4.6 to ubuntu 5.10
[07:15] <mau> _jason: thank u very much! downloading in progresss... ;)
[07:15] <_jason> newbuntu: try #kubuntu, they might know better
[07:15] <harisund> zenbum: Could you get my question?
[07:15] <dj-fu> dominic_, still having the problem?
[07:16] <newbuntu> its an empty room?
[07:16] <_jason> newbuntu: #kubuntu
[07:16] <liquidflame> any one know anything about java?
[07:16] <_jason> liquidflame: someone surely knows something about java
[07:16] <intelikey> newbuntu there is a dir in  $HOME/.kde/   called startup  i think.   put a luancher there.  or a warper
[07:16] <rob_p> intelikey:  Visudo is a wrapper around your editor which verifies the integrity of your sudoers file by checking for syntatical errors.  You really should be using it to edit your /etc/sudoers file.
[07:16] <rob_p> intelikey:  A symlink to what?
[07:16] <newbuntu> thanks i didnt realize
[07:17] <liquidflame> will i'm trying to install Java Runtime Environment but i can't get it to install
[07:17] <intelikey> ln -s /your/favorite/editor  /usr/bin/editor
[07:17] <OrTigaS> ok that internet radio leave it.... i have one more thing to set-up.. Network Printer i want to add it
[07:17] <PhoenixP3K> I need quick help; just how do you execute those .sh
[07:17] <_jason> ubotu: tell liquidflame about javadebs
[07:17] <_jason> PhoenixP3K: sh file.sh
[07:18] <OrTigaS> i wont detect our network printer
[07:18] <PhoenixP3K> _jason, God thank you  :o
[07:18] <OrTigaS> it a window printer
[07:19] <intelikey> rob_p normally /usr/bin/editor is a link to /etc/alternatives/editor  which is a like to  /usr/bin/sensable-editor  or some crpa like that but i don't do /etc/alternatives/   so... meah
[07:19] <munzir> Hi, I want to let domain1.com points to domain2.com, should setting a cname be enough? is this a correct way?
[07:20] <rob_p> intelikey:  Ok.  So now that you can edit your sudoers file with visudo, try making an insignificant change and then save it.  That way you can verify your sudoers file integrity.
[07:20] <alex_> _jason you there?
[07:20] <rob_p> intelikey:  After that, try running a command with sudo and cross your fingers.  :-)
[07:20] <_jason> alex_: yeah
[07:20] <alex_> i downloaded azureus from their offical site
[07:20] <alex_> because the one in the repository doesn't work
[07:20] <harisund> has anybody used the software mathematica here?
[07:20] <alex_> anyway it works now, but how do i make a shortcut to it?
[07:20] <alex_> i want to put an icon in my taskbar
[07:20] <arrick> hey how do i delete a directory that I made with "sudo mkdir ext6" on accdent?
[07:20] <alex_> if i type azureus in terminal it doesn't come up
[07:20] <intelikey> tty2 [root#~]  visudo
[07:20] <intelikey> tty2 [root#~]  sudo echo bob
[07:20] <intelikey> sudo: can't open /etc/sudoers: Permission denied
[07:20] <_jason> alex_: right click > create launcher
[07:20] <harisund> arrick: sudo rm -r ext6
[07:21] <intelikey> and i did change it.
[07:21] <arrick> thanks
[07:21] <_jason> arrick: sudo rmdir ext6
[07:21] <intelikey> removed a blank line and saved rob_p
[07:21] <alex_> _jason, where should i install th ings?
[07:21] <alex_> is the opt directory fine?
[07:21] <alex_> i saw firefox there
[07:21] <_jason> alex_: yep
[07:21] <alex_> so i put azureus there
[07:21] <_jason> alex_: /opt or /usr/local are what I usually use
[07:22] <OrTigaS> how can i add a window network printer?
[07:22] <alex_> what's the significance of the opt directory?
[07:22] <alex_> it has root access or somthing
[07:23] <intelikey> rob_p if you think it will help i'll rm /etc/sudoers and reinstall sudo  that will make a new default /etc/sudoers file   but it will still error out because that error is bogus.   i don't know what the porblem is but i know it'e not the sudoers file itself.
[07:23] <rob_p> intelikey:  What perms do you have on your /etc/sudoers file?  Should be 440.
[07:23] <_jason> ubotu: tell alex_ about dirs
[07:23] <intelikey> 440
[07:23] <biovore> the /opt is for optional software.. Atleast thats what it says in the FHS
[07:23] <arrick> hey _jason harisund IdleOne DBO check out #arrick right quick
[07:23] <mau> _jason: do you speak portuguese?
[07:23] <rob_p> intelikey:  brb... gotta hit br...
[07:24] <intelikey> ok
[07:24] <Madpilot> !pt
[07:24] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[07:24] <alex_> _jason, i can't select an icon in t he opt dir
[07:24] <alex_> it's all greyed out
[07:25] <_jason> alex_: what's the filename?
[07:25] <alex_> Azureus.png
[07:26] <_jason> alex_: hrmm, don't know
[07:26] <arrick> !pastebin
[07:26] <ubotu> I guess pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[07:26] <alex_> is it because it doesn't have access to it or osmthing
[07:26] <Prak> does anyone know how to deal with dhcp problem with adsl?
[07:26] <_jason> alex_: ls -l /path/to/Azureus.png
[07:26] <boggiex64> never had any probs with DHCP sorry
[07:27] <alex_> nevermind it works now _jason.
[07:27] <alex_> i wish utorrent would get ported over.
[07:27] <boggiex64> lol thats good
[07:27] <intelikey> anybody else want to take a crack at this error ?     "sudo: can't open /etc/sudoers: Permission denied"   ???
[07:27] <_jason> alex_: well you could take the initiative :)
[07:27] <lutra> alex_: just use bittorrent
[07:27] <BostonBubz> anybody know how to move the default volume controls from analog center to analog front???
[07:27] <Prak> here's my problem; i installed ubuntu to dual boot with windows 2 weeks ago; it's connected to the router using ethernet cable
[07:27] <Prak> but it can't connect to the internet
[07:27] <alex_> crap!!
[07:27] <_jason> intelikey: seems like you fixed the permissions, have you tried logging out and back in maybe?
[07:28] <boggiex64> crap
[07:28] <alex_> _jason, i clicked on the azureus icon and it doesn't give me permissions
[07:28] <intelikey> Setting up sudo (1.6.8p5-1ubuntu2) ...
[07:28] <intelikey> No /etc/sudoers found... creating one for you.
[07:28] <rob_p> intelikey:  I'm back.  Yeah, I'd hold off from reinstalling it.  What was the last thing you did  before you noticed sudo was broken?
[07:28] <_jason> ubotu: tell alex_ about azureus
[07:28] <alex_> it says can't open file - permission denied
[07:28] <_jason> alex_: ubotu just sent you the easy way
[07:28] <ic56> alex_ /opt is for packages that you want installed in their own directory hierarchy.  /usr/local is for conventional unix-style installations where all packages share a single hierarchy.
[07:28] <arrick> Ok everyone check out http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11735 and let me know what you think
[07:28] <intelikey> _jason no change.   tty2 [root#~]  sudo echo bob
[07:28] <intelikey> sudo: can't open /etc/sudoers: Permission denied
[07:29] <inazad> anyone know how to install No-ip DNS software on Linux?
[07:29] <boggiex64> did you run dclient?
[07:29] <intelikey> never used it on this system.... probably never worked here ?
[07:29] <inazad> boggiex64, I finished the installation 2 minutes ago
[07:29] <inazad> I dont know if it runnin
[07:29] <inazad> how I can know if it's running?
[07:30] <arrick> inazad, if you followed the instructions in the README.FIRST file, then its running
[07:30] <intelikey> rob_p  i don't remember ever using sudo sense i installed the system.
[07:30] <inazad> arrick, yes but I want to be sure
[07:30] <alex_> nevermind i got it _jason, it's working now.
[07:30] <ic56> intelikey: tell me more.  Is this an Ubuntu system?  what does ls -l /etc/sudoers say?
[07:30] <_jason> alex_: k
[07:30] <alex_> I tried the offical one but it's buggy.
[07:30] <inazad> arrick, because my apache2 sucks..
[07:30] <boggiex64> that I am not sure on but try sudo dhclient eth0 or where ever your Nic is
[07:30] <arrick> inazad, its working believe me
[07:30] <intelikey> 5.4
[07:30] <arrick> ok what is your noip addy?
[07:30] <inazad> arrick, can u help me with my apache2 ?
[07:31] <intelikey> ls says 440
[07:31] <ic56> intelikey: 440 is fine.  Now tell me what ls -ld / and /etc says
[07:32] <inazad> arrick, can u help me with my apache2 ?
[07:32] <intelikey> and dpkg just made that file... i "rm /etc/sudoers "  and  "apt-get -u --reinstall --fix-missing install sudo"    and i have tried with 001  755  and 777 on both of those.
[07:32] <arrick> inazad, let me know your noip address and i'll check it for you then we will configure apache
[07:32] <ralpho> I just got my all in one hp5510 to work good god i got a scanner and its not scsi in linux this is good.
[07:32] <majd> Hello
[07:32] <majd> how do i execute a .deb package?
[07:32] <_jason> !deb
[07:32] <ubotu> To install a .deb file: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb  (but note that the program you want might be installable using !apt from the !repos)
[07:33] <inazad> arrick, inazad.no-ip.org
[07:33] <DBO> dpkg -i /path/to/deb
[07:33] <majd> thanks
[07:33] <DBO> ooooh, there is a factoid for that one, handy
[07:33] <intelikey> ic56   ^
[07:33] <ic56> intelikey: sudo will refuse to run if its config file can be publically modified, since that would allow root to be compromised.
[07:33] <OrTigaS> i cant add a network printer it didnt show
[07:33] <ic56> intelikey: chmod 755 / /etc
[07:34] <intelikey> ic56 i know that.  but that's a different error message
[07:34] <intelikey> yes that's what i just said.
[07:34] <intelikey> and dpkg just made that file... i "rm /etc/sudoers "  and  "apt-get -u --reinstall --fix-missing install sudo"    and i have tried with 001  755  and 777 on both of those. ic56
[07:34] <intelikey> both of those being  / and /etc
[07:35] <arrick> hey inazad join #arrick
[07:35] <alex_> _jason, i want to uninstall windows and put it back (another version of windows just for streaming to my xbox) will grub detect it
[07:35] <arrick> that way I dont flood here
[07:35] <ic56> intelikey: so is / and /etc now 755?  If so, let's proceed and check the owners.  Who are teh owners and groups of / /etc and /etc/sudoers?
[07:35] <alex_> if i install WIndows media center edition grub will break right since it will overright the MBR
[07:35] <intelikey> owner is  root:root
[07:35] <_jason> ubotu: tell alex_ about grub
[07:36] <ralpho> you will have to reinstall grub because windows will over write the mbr
[07:36] <Madpilot> what's the bash command to add a user to a group?
[07:37] <intelikey> tty2 [root#~]  ls -ld /
[07:37] <intelikey> drwxr-xr-x  17 root root 4096 Apr  7 15:32 /
[07:37] <intelikey> tty2 [root#~]  ls -ld /etc
[07:37] <intelikey> drwxr-xr-x  50 root root 4096 Apr  8 00:26 /etc
[07:37] <intelikey> tty2 [root#~]  ls -l /etc/sudoers
[07:37] <intelikey> -r--r-----  1 root root 330 Apr  8 00:25 /etc/sudoers
[07:37] <IcemanV9> Madpilot: adduser
[07:37] <intelikey> tty2 [root#~]  sudo echo bob
[07:37] <intelikey> sudo: can't open /etc/sudoers: Permission denied
[07:37] <intelikey> ?
[07:38] <ubuntu> hello
[07:38] <Eleaf> hi
[07:39] <Madpilot> IcemanV9, thanks - is there a command to list all groups in the whole system?
[07:39] <ic56> intelikey: does the error message get displayed before or after you get prompted for a password?
[07:40] <P3L|C4N0> !automatix
[07:40] <ubotu> it has been said that automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[07:40] <GuardianAtomos> Hm. I determined that my xorg.conf file was configured to use the graphics card that came with my computer, not a (slightly) newer nVidia one.
[07:40] <OrTigaS> how can i add a network printer
[07:40] <GuardianAtomos> I have no clue how to configure the file to use the one that my monitor's attached to.
[07:40] <IcemanV9> Madpilot: hrm. dunno the command, but you can take a peek at /etc/group
[07:40] <OrTigaS> its doesn't show
[07:40] <intelikey> ic56 there is no prompt for a password,  "root    ALL=(ALL) ALL"
[07:40] <RehanSAlvi> I constantly keep getting a "Could not read from CD" error while trying to install Ubuntu....I know my CD drive is fine---what could be causing this?
[07:41] <ic56> intelikey: ls -l /usr/bin/sudo
[07:41] <GuardianAtomos> Is there a way to tell the Ubuntu installer to look elsewhere for the graphics card it installs?
[07:41] <OrTigaS> RehanSAlvi, try to other machine your ch installer
[07:41] <intelikey> -rwsr-xr-x  2 root root 95512 Mar  2  2005 /usr/bin/sudo
[07:41] <RehanSAlvi> OrTigaS: other machine your ch installer?
[07:41] <OrTigaS> cd*
[07:42] <alex_> is there a site that shows good alternatives to popular windows programs?
[07:43] <LeRipper> hi anyone can give me a hamd with Ubuntu ?
[07:43] <IcemanV9> Madpilot: fwiw, type "groups username" will tell you what group a user is in
[07:43] <ic56> intelikey: this makes no sense.
[07:43] <Madpilot> IcemanV9, yeah, I know that one - thanks, got it sorted another way
[07:43] <LeRipper> i cannot use internte, on my ADSL: i use username and passowrd to connect
[07:43] <intelikey> ic56 tell me about it.
[07:44] <LeRipper> and i cannot find the app to do it
[07:44] <n_i_c_k> OrTigaS: /etc/cups/cupsd-browsing.conf - set it to On if not already on.
[07:44] <intelikey> oh wait, maybe it's perms on /var
[07:45] <intelikey> hah  found it.  it couldn't write to var
[07:45] <intelikey> tty2 [root#~]  chmod 051 /var
[07:45] <intelikey> tty2 [root#~]  sudo echo bob
[07:45] <intelikey> bob
[07:45] <intelikey> look it works
[07:45] <intelikey> :)
[07:45] <ic56> intelikey: what perms did /var have before?
[07:45] <intelikey> root doesn't need permission but root's group does.
[07:46] <intelikey> 001
[07:46] <dj-fu> doh, he just left as i worked it out
[07:46] <dj-fu> sed -e '/./{H;$!d;}' -e 'x;/Section "Device"/!d;' /etc/X11/xorg.conf <-- handy sed for showing the contents of your Section "Device" in xorg.conf
[07:47] <ic56> intelikey: unexpected requirement.  I would have thought 001 would suffice.
[07:47] <PwcrLinux> im back script not working for xchat grrr
[07:47] <Eleaf> Is there some type of "Quality of Service" control in linux I suppose?  (Networking).  As in allowing one application or service higher priority over another? ;p
[07:48] <intelikey> ok i think i have it setup. maybe.  i have a user account with locked password  on a system with nosuid  and it "should" start the X server and connect a uesrs twm to X at boot.
[07:48] <ic56> intelikey: ah, no. It wouldn't because it needs to verify the perms.  Try 005.  Will that work?
[07:48] <ralpho> yeap sed works
[07:48] <LeRipper> i cannot use internte using my ADSL modem : i use a username and passowrd to connect , but do not know wher to go and configure it
[07:48] <intelikey> ic56 yeah me too.   but root group needs to read something in there.
[07:49] <OrTigaS> n_i_c_k,  browsing on
[07:49] <Eleaf> mmm?
[07:49] <jsestri2> how can i see what drivers are loaded?
[07:49] <LeRipper> ppoe ?
[07:49] <Eleaf> ?
[07:49] <LeRipper> pppoe ?
[07:49] <Eleaf> lol
[07:49] <Eleaf> I'm talking about within linux, I am using dsl if that's what you are asking..
[07:50] <dj-fu> jsestri2, `lsmod`
[07:50] <intelikey> going for a reboot to see if i fixed it all... hehhe  at least i can login as root and   sudo -u user openvt    if needed.
[07:50] <jsestri2> anyone happen to know the correct driver for the marvell gigabit LAN?
[07:51] <g0urd> Hi, i just finished installing ubuntu using
[07:51] <g0urd> 'expert' mode
[07:51] <g0urd> what do i have to do now to retrieve source packages for all the DEs?
[07:51] <n_i_c_k> OrTigaS: browsing on, both client and server, cupsys restarted, printer still not showing?
[07:52] <_jason> g0urd: edit /etc/apt/sources.list and enable the deb-src lines, then just do 'apt-get source packagename'
[07:52] <g0urd> _jason: do i need to disable all the 'bin' repos?
[07:52] <OrTigaS> it has to be shown because it open i dont know why i can add
[07:52] <_jason> g0urd: nope
[07:52] <OrTigaS> cant*
[07:53] <n_i_c_k> OrTigaS: if that was in reply to me, I didn't understand
[07:54] <nadjyla> hello
[07:54] <lutra> hello
[07:56] <basit> i have installed dapper flight 6, but it did not install ubuntu-desktop, and installing it using apt afterwards fails
[07:57] <basit> any help please?
[07:57] <basit> ah
[07:57] <basit> i read the topic
[07:57] <lutra> basit: that's a meta-package anyways
[07:57] <todd> whats up guys i need some help setting up a dual boot
[07:57] <nadjyla> basit: use apt-get install
[07:57] <holycow> wow, the gui for mplayer in dapper is great
[07:57] <nadjyla> and boot on recovery mode
[07:58] <todd> can anyone walk me through setting it up in kubuntu
[07:59] <todd> ?
[07:59] <jon_> todd, In a quick walk through, you boot into Windows, defrag hardrive, find a live linux CD, *my personal suggestion System Rescue CD* Use QTParted, just make some empty space.  Ubuntu will have an option to "install using free space in harddrive"...select that...
[07:59] <jon_> and off you go
[07:59] <holycow> that would be one of the safest ways to do it
[08:00] <todd> i have 2 hard drives 1 with windows and one with linux?
[08:00] <OrTigaS> how to upgrade kernel
[08:00] <jon_> todd, Hm, well that's different :)
[08:00] <todd> can ya help me
[08:00] <OrTigaS> update
[08:00] <OrTigaS> upgrade
[08:00] <todd> i just want to be able to choose windows or linux
[08:00] <jon_> todd, Nah, I'm too fuzzy on the steps to do it, so I don't want to steer you in the wrong direction.
[08:01] <todd> jon_ u know anyone who might know how to do it
[08:01] <jsestri2> anyone got ideas on changing settings for the sky2 network driver? edit the source myself, or wil there be settings somewhere?
[08:02] <jon_> todd, Well, if no one else here on the channel doesn't respond\doesn't know.  Google is your friend.  So is the Ubuntu wiki\forums.
[08:02] <holycow> todd: install windows first on first hd, put ubuntu cd in, install to second hd, make sure the bootloader is installed in the boot sector on first hd (windows always wants to be on c drive), and voila
[08:02] <jon_> holycow, Ah, I didn't know it was that easy. ;)
[08:03] <todd> windows is on one hd and linux is on the other the linux one is set to master and windows to slave
[08:03] <g0urd> is there a nightly-build dvd available anywhere with the desktop source? i've been searching for it since someone mentioned about it in here...
[08:04] <todd> holycow whats a bootloader
[08:04] <intelikey> just thought i'd drop in and say it all worked,   i feel so geeky.... 8*)
[08:04] <ic56> intelikey: congrats!  BTW, I haven't succeded in replicating your prob.
[08:04] <todd> can u  walk me through it
[08:04] <holycow> todd: well, if your asking that question, i recommend you have backups of all your data before you go any further :)
[08:04] <intelikey> todd it's what starts the computer loading the os.
[08:04] <todd> there fresh install theres no data on them anyway lol
[08:05] <jsestri2> anyone know how to change settinfs for drivers? i know what i want to change, just not how to do it in ubuntu/linux...
[08:05] <holycow> todd: google grub, that is one bootloader it should tell you enough about what it doe
[08:05] <holycow> todd: alternatively, google 'what is a bootloader'
[08:05] <holycow> :)
[08:05] <jon_> g0urd, Doing a quick google search...just reading the .. summaries.  "Nightly builds are on some select mirrors"
[08:05] <jon_> g0urd, Doesn't mention what mirrors though. =\
[08:05] <intelikey> fresh install != no data    hehhe
[08:05] <todd> im not going to have to delete anything am i
[08:05] <todd> to do this
[08:05] <yeonhoo> hi
[08:05] <jon_> intelikey, But if he screws something up, it's easily replaceable :)
[08:05] <yeonhoo> how to descompact .rar file?
[08:05] <_jason> !rar
[08:05] <ubotu> I guess rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[08:06] <PwcrLinux> Grub is a selection which OS want to load in.. or a single HD linux only, the grub will boot linux up that's all.
[08:06] <todd> anyone?
[08:07] <jon_> todd, What holycow said should work perfectly.  When it sets up "Grub" and says "Is this all the OS's that are on your system?" and if Windows shows up as a boot option..you are in luck.  Just hit yes..and off you go.
[08:07] <todd> jon where do i go to see if windows shows up
[08:07] <jon_> It'll give a list.
[08:07] <todd> where is this list
[08:08] <yeonhoo> thankyou _jason
[08:08] <jon_> It'll prompt you saying "Windows XP Home Edition blah blah" "Other OS here" blah blah.  It'll be a prompt showing what OS's it has detected...
[08:09] <todd> my question is where and when will i see if it detecting windows
[08:09] <holycow> at the begging, right after bios finished listing system devices
[08:09] <jon_> It'll say in the prompt asking to continue the install of Grug.. "Windows XP home edition" or whatever you happen to have.
[08:09] <todd> it just booted right into linux
[08:09] <todd> nothing about windows
[08:09] <arrick> IdleOne,  you here tonight?
[08:09] <jon_> After the install is complete...it'll say "Booting grub 1.5 hit esc to show menu"
[08:10] <jon_> You might wanna do that :)
[08:10] <geniusvicks> my plugin directory has the symbolic link fo java but still java doesnt work
[08:10] <jon_> hit esc to enter menu
[08:10] <geniusvicks> What to do?
[08:10] <_jason> todd: press ESC when the computer is botting up to see the grub menu
[08:10] <todd> oo ok thanks jason
[08:10] <arrick> DBO, how good r u with apache2?
[08:10] <holycow> todd: well you either effed it up,or you didn't sdee the option to press del or something to see the options
[08:10] <_jason> geniusvicks: how did you install java?
[08:10] <holycow> todd: by default it loads into the first os in the gub boot list
[08:10] <DBO> arrick, what are you looking to do?
[08:10] <geniusvicks> I chmod the downloaded file
[08:11] <todd> so just hit ESC after bios and it should come up right?
[08:11] <arrick> I got a kid in #arrick needing to set permissions DBO
[08:11] <geniusvicks> and then typed ./<javafilename>
[08:11] <warreng> has apple come out with an intel-based desktop yet?
[08:11] <arrick> and cant remember
[08:11] <DBO> arrick, ok, let me go read
[08:11] <_jason> geniusvicks: for future reference, it's better to create a package or use one that is already made.  What version of firefox are you using?
[08:11] <todd> oh DBO thanks for the help the other night with the xfce install
[08:11] <DBO> todd, sure, got it working yes?
[08:11] <PwcrLinux> No, after system logo disappeared and you'll see "Grub loading" and then till timer is counting down hit the ESC key
[08:11] <todd> yea work great
[08:12] <DBO> todd, fantastic
[08:12] <holycow> esc key, thats what it is
[08:12] <majd> !wma
[08:12] <ubotu> [restricted]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[08:12] <todd> ooo ok and it should show up correct?
[08:12] <jon_> todd, that's the hope :)
[08:12] <todd> k brb let me try and see thanks alot guys
[08:13] <geniusvicks> 1.5
[08:13] <geniusvicks> _jason: it is 1.5
[08:13] <_jason> geniusvicks: did you install it to /opt?
[08:13] <majd> is there a way to play wma's in ubuntu?
[08:13] <geniusvicks> yes
[08:13] <holycow> mplayer
[08:13] <holycow> or gxine and w32 codecs
[08:13] <arrick> !aoache
[08:13] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, arrick
[08:13] <arrick> !apache
[08:13] <ubotu> well, apache is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[08:13] <majd> mplayer hates me
[08:13] <jon_> !w32codecs
[08:13] <ubotu> I heard w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[08:13] <_jason> geniusvicks: can you pastebin 'ls -l /opt/firefox/plugins' please?  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[08:13] <jon_> majd ^^
[08:13] <geniusvicks> ok
[08:14] <majd> jon_, "Failed to open..."
[08:14] <majd> it has a horrible UI...wasn't very happy with it really
[08:15] <yabba> hi, does anyone know a command to search through all on the system installed programmes (and their descriptions maybe) ; they are somewhere registered (synaptic?) so it shouldnt be a problem, right? :)
[08:15] <majd> Couldn't open/initialize audio device -> no sound
[08:15] <jon_> majd, I agree, mplayer gui is ugly :)  But what failed to open?  Your WMA?  That's why I directed you to the w32codecs.
[08:15] <majd> i get that a lot with mplayer
[08:15] <PwcrLinux> try gxine, it's work everthing including commerical movie DVDs..
[08:15] <majd> jon_, oh...my bad...the no sound error i get with almost everything
[08:15] <holycow> actually don't listen to PwcrLinux totally
[08:16] <holycow> he is stretching the truth by a very fair bit
[08:16] <jon_> majd, You need to enable alsa for your programs then...
[08:16] <majd> jon_, i believe i have win32codecs installed
[08:16] <yabba> mplayer is ugly and not userfriendly but most diverse
[08:16] <holycow> gxine is good, but it doesn't play everying, nothing on linux does
[08:16] <majd> jon_, way over my head :(
[08:16] <holycow> yabba: you should try the one in dapper, purdy new gui
[08:16] <majd> i love vlc
[08:16] <_jason> majd: do you use esd?  (system > prefs > multimedia selector)
[08:16] <holycow> its really nice
[08:16] <geniusvicks> _jason I posted it
[08:16] <_jason> geniusvicks: url?
[08:16] <geniusvicks> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11741
[08:16] <yabba> i dont have dapper, cant i do it in the bash? holycow
[08:16] <yabba> <-5.10
[08:17] <holycow> bash? no just wait for dapper to release, i'm just commenting on the gui comment you made
[08:17] <holycow> :)
[08:17] <majd> and _jason i just switched to ALSA...still nothing
[08:17] <Auckland_Pig> i want to use freeBSD on my ubuntu ... should i instal qemu or bochs or xen?
[08:17] <jon_> majd, Normally it's just poking around in the preferences of the programs...and switching it alsa.
[08:17] <yabba> ahhh holycow okay :D
[08:17] <_jason> majd: mplayer -ao alsa /path/to/mediafile
[08:17] <jon_> majd, Well, the problem being, .. if you have any program with OSS running, it'll block the alsa.
[08:17] <jon_> majd, A major offender being XMMS ;)
[08:17] <majd> amaroK ?
[08:18] <geniusvicks> _jason: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11741 is the url
[08:18] <jon_> majd, rather, not OSS running, but the program *using* oss.
[08:18] <_jason> geniusvicks: and after closing all instances of firefox and restarting, this page doesn't work: http://www.java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml ?
[08:18] <ubuntu> Hi, i REALLY need help!  Is someone here?!
[08:19] <geniusvicks> restarting my PC or firefox?
[08:19] <_jason> geniusvicks: just firefox
[08:19] <ubuntu> yes, someone is hre
[08:19] <geniusvicks> ok
[08:20] <jsestri2> how do i unload one module and load another?
[08:20] <g0urd> jon_: thnx for the info
[08:20] <jon_> ubuntu, Ask away.
[08:20] <ubuntu> ok sorry
[08:20] <ubuntu> umm
[08:20] <geniusvicks> _jason no, It says click here to download plugin
[08:20] <ubuntu> i just installed this
[08:20] <jon_> g0urd, No problem.  Did you find what you needed?
[08:20] <mwright1> Can you toggle the deafault behaviour or nautilus to copy instead of moving?
[08:20] <ubuntu> and grub messed up wtih error 10
[08:20] <ubuntu> i tried to reinstall it but no luck
[08:20] <_jason> geniusvicks: ls /usr/java/jre1.5.0_06/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so, says the file exists?
[08:21] <jon_> ubuntu, Well, what happened during your installation?
[08:21] <geniusvicks> There's something in green colour
[08:21] <ubuntu> nothing happend
[08:21] <ubuntu> it all worked
[08:21] <majd> jon_, _jason i set both multimedia preferences/options and mplayer settings to ESD...now it doesn't give me an error, but it doesn't play anything either
[08:21] <ubuntu> when it went to restart grub decided it would pull an error 10
[08:21] <ubuntu> im on the live cd now which sucks
[08:21] <geniusvicks> _jason: There's the filepath and name in green colour
[08:22] <tapox> Hey everyone. Dapper seems to be working fine, is this a bug?
[08:22] <carthik> I have saved an old gpg revocation certificate. Anyone want to tell me how to use it to revoke my old certs and create some new ones? (or import my old keys on this new system?)
[08:22] <dj-fu> that certainly is not ab ug, tapox - that's by design.
[08:22] <jon_> majd, I personally don't bother with ESD *at all*...too many bugs.
[08:22] <_jason> majd: can you play /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav ?
[08:22] <jon_> ubuntu, Did your grub install correctly? as in ... are you sure?
[08:22] <ubuntu> it said it did
[08:22] <ubuntu> i tried to reinsall and still nothing
[08:23] <tapox> dj-fu: alright, a little unexpected though.
[08:23] <jon_> tapox, I've heard Dapper doesn't have any real show stopping bugs anymore.
[08:23] <todd> hey guys no windows os showed up in that GRUB menu
[08:23] <dj-fu> todd, that's GREAT! you're one step closer to freedom
[08:23] <todd> lol
[08:23] <jon_> dj-fu, Not helpful.
[08:23] <dj-fu> Now all you have to do is throw the aformentioned windows operating systems out of the window
[08:23] <tapox> I guess if I want to make Dapper fun anymore, I need to start deleting kernel modules and config files at random.
[08:24] <jon_> tapox, Do it :)
[08:24] <dj-fu> tapox, try installing Xgl & Compiz
[08:24] <jon_> ubuntu, Umm...are you dual booting?
[08:24] <geniusvicks> _jason: hello?
[08:24] <jon_> ubuntu, Which leads to next question, if you are, did you set it up correctly?  Tell me how you set it up.
[08:24] <_jason> geniusvicks: hmm should be working... does your java work?
[08:24] <tapox> dj-fu: Good idea, this computer is held together by duct tape, no way in hell it will handle Xgl & Compiz
[08:24] <todd> can anyone help me put that windows os into that grub menu?
[08:24] <geniusvicks> ya
[08:25] <dj-fu> tapox, :D
[08:25] <geniusvicks> _jason: LIMEWIRE works
[08:25] <tapox> (Well, scotch tape. I'm cheap.)
[08:25] <jon_> todd, Easiest for a noob would just be to reinstall Ubuntu, prevents messing with the grub config.  But ask someone a bit more into that to help you config the grub file.
[08:25] <tapox> Hey! Someone from MA!
[08:25] <khermans> ya
[08:26] <ubuntu> umm
[08:26] <todd> do i have to set the windows HD to slave for it to show up?
[08:26] <majd> jon_/ _jason  now i can't play anything :( i screwed it up worse than it was before
[08:26] <ubuntu> i set it up with default and yes im dual booting
[08:26] <todd> ot will cable work
[08:26] <khermans> tapox, where r u from?
[08:26] <tapox> khermans: Milton.
[08:26] <dj-fu> todd, once you work out which drive/partition your windows is on - make it look something like this, where hd(DRIVE,PARTITION) http://pastebin.com/647421
[08:26] <mlask> hi there! my problem is: i would like to hear a mp3/ogg files in nautilus window, however, it doesn't work. I have enabled this function in nautilus opitons menu, i have also enebled gnome sound server and sound actions. I'm also sure that there is no other app blocking my audio device. I can hear sound conected with my acctions, eg. when minimalising a window, but i'm still unable to hear sound in nautilus. What should i do?
[08:26] <_jason> majd: is esd running?
[08:26] <jon_> majd, What options did you change it too?  And don't worry, everything is reversable.
[08:27] <majd> jon_,  it was on ESD
[08:27] <khermans> tapox, ahh cool
[08:27] <majd> i changed it to ALSA, then back to ESD
[08:27] <tapox> khermans: you?
[08:27] <Auckland_Pig> can i use the qemu package in synaptic to install qemu?
[08:27] <khermans> tapox, amherst
[08:27] <jon_> majd, What applications that use sound do you have runnig?
[08:27] <jon_> running*
[08:27] <todd> yea that http://pastebin.com/647421 thing is greek to me can someone out that into english for me
[08:27] <tapox> Heh, other side of the state eh?
[08:27] <majd> from what i can tell, nothing
[08:27] <majd> i have gdesklets, xchat, and...that's it
[08:28] <majd> unless something's running in the background
[08:28] <_jason> geniusvicks: what does 'which firefox' say?
[08:28] <majd> my CPU has been going at 100% for a good 2 min now
[08:28] <majd> i can't figure out what it's from
[08:28] <dj-fu> linux != english
[08:28] <dj-fu> majd, run `ps -ef r`
[08:28] <dj-fu> majd, that'll show you which processes are stealing the cpu.
[08:28] <ubuntu> so, how do i reinstall this grub thing?
[08:28] <geniusvicks> it says /usr/bin/firefox
[08:28] <majd> UID        PID  PPID  C STIME TTY      STAT   TIME CMD
[08:28] <majd> majd     19095 19083  0 02:28 pts/0    R+     0:00 ps -ef r
[08:28] <jon_> majd
[08:29] <tapox> ubuntu: grub or grub-install, from memory.
[08:29] <jon_> majd, use Top to find the offending process
[08:29] <_jason> geniusvicks: hrmm are you sure that firefox1.5 is opening?  check in help > about firefox
[08:29] <jon_> majd, Just open terminal, type in top..
[08:29] <majd> k....
[08:29] <jsestri2> anyone know how to change which driver your NIC uses?
[08:29] <jon_> majd, Find the one using 99% CPU or memory. XD
[08:29] <ubuntu> tapox, could you more clear? ive never used linux before
[08:29] <todd> can someone walk me through putting that into the GRUB
[08:29] <geniusvicks> _jason: Yes also it says "Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8) Gecko/20051111 Firefox/1.5"
[08:29] <majd> java's using 71% cpu =\
[08:29] <majd> 77
[08:29] <tapox> ubuntu: Sure, just give me a second, my computer's being a pain at the moment.
[08:29] <dj-fu> java is sux
[08:29] <ubuntu> ty so much
[08:30] <majd> python using 27
[08:30] <majd> but i don't have any java apps open =\
[08:30] <jon_> majd, Kill that.
[08:30] <majd> jon_, kill java?
[08:30] <jon_> majd, Gdesklets uses Java, and Java can be a memory leaker.
[08:30] <majd> oh ok
[08:30] <jon_> majd, Yeah, kill java.
[08:31] <_jason> geniusvicks: so do you just have your shortcuts point to /opt/firefox/firefox?
[08:31] <khermans> java sucks
[08:31] <PwcrLinux> majd: go to system tools > System Monitor and look for which program have excessive high CPU process..
[08:31] <ubuntu> :)
[08:31] <geniusvicks> _jason: I'm not sure
[08:31] <todd> can someone walk me through putting that into the GRUB
[08:31] <majd> HOLY CRAP
[08:31] <majd> it dropped to 0
[08:31] <tapox> ubuntu: open up a terminal (Applications>Utilities>Terminal) and type: sudo grub-install /dev/hda
[08:32] <jon_> PwcrLinux, Bah, we teach it to him the right way, top. ;)  The de-facto standard.
[08:32] <ubuntu> should i close all these programs? im on the live cd
[08:32] <lakcaj> I don't believe gdesklets use java
[08:32] <majd> http://img107.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot17qv.png
[08:32] <jon_> lakcaj, I'm 90% it does.
[08:32] <dj-fu> it could probably be made to use antyhing
[08:33] <tonyyarusso> todd: What do you need to do?
[08:33] <lakcaj> jon_, I'm 99% sure it doesn't
[08:33] <majd> lakcaj, i shut down gdesklets and it didn't go down...i went to the system monitor and killed java...and that did it
[08:33] <majd> CPU usage...that is
[08:33] <jon_> lakcaj, No, that's right... it uses python :)
[08:33] <todd> i got 2 HDs one with windows and one with linux i want to be able to select which one i can bott into
[08:33] <jon_> lakcaj, hence why I didn't like it...used too much of my poor system.
[08:33] <majd> todd, get grub.....
[08:34] <lakcaj> I don't like gdesklets either - it is a memory hog
[08:34] <majd> grrr
[08:34] <majd> there's no substitute to jvaa
[08:34] <majd> *java
[08:34] <majd> i need it
[08:34] <tonyyarusso> todd: Does grub-install auto-detect your setup?
[08:34] <lakcaj> torsmo is a fairly lightweight system monitor that can run on the desktop
[08:34] <_jason> geniusvicks: ok, close all firefox, 'killall firefox-bin' to make sure it closed, then run '/opt/firefox/firefox' and test the java again
[08:34] <jon_> majd, Yeah, but it just leaks sometimes..
[08:34] <majd> gay
[08:34] <jon_> majd, It'll run again when an application uses it.
[08:34] <todd> tony--- how do i find that out
[08:34] <jon_> majd, I find the main pain in the butt ... is java with firefox.
[08:34] <majd> i don't even know what memory leaks are...technically
[08:34] <WebLOCH> Hey guys, I have apache2/php4/mysql stored, and I wanted to make use of XSL/XSLT so I downloaded the php4-xslt package but im getting undefined function errors, do i have to do something else to enable it?
[08:35] <majd> WebLOCH, you have to set php.ini up
[08:35] <PwcrLinux> SunJava is good?
[08:35] <jon_> majd, Where an application ... starts using more and more memory..when it's not supposed too.  I forget the technical explination...but it's boring anyways. :)
[08:35] <majd> lol
[08:35] <majd> good enoughj
[08:35] <majd> *enough
[08:35] <majd> thanks for the help....now back to my audio problem...i need to hear this song...:(
[08:35] <WebLOCH> majd, ahh right... is the extension just "xslt.so" ?
[08:35] <ubuntu> tapox
[08:35] <lakcaj> majd, a program uses memory, and when it is done with it is is supposed to tell the system that that memory is available again for other programs.  Some poorly written apps forget to tell the OS that the memory is free, hence the gradual slowdown of your system
[08:35] <tonyyarusso> todd: One second, I'm hoping to reference the wiki for you.  Essentially, you try running the grub installer, and see if it works.
[08:35] <ubuntu> my pms are being banned!@
[08:35] <geniusvicks> _jason: there's a message if I launch firefox in terminal
[08:36] <geniusvicks> I'm posting it
[08:36] <majd> WebLOCH, beats me
[08:36] <ubuntu> let me register i guess
[08:36] <WebLOCH> fair enough
[08:36] <ubuntu> wait
[08:36] <ubuntu> god
[08:36] <todd> tonyyarusso: where do i open that grub installer
[08:36] <ubuntu> umm...  tapox, im really confused and about to throw all of this away
[08:36] <majd> lakcaj, hmmm...my understand was that the compiler/system does that automatically
[08:36] <jon_> ubuntu, There's generally no need to PM anyone...
[08:36] <tapox> ubuntu: just change your nick and join the channel #tapox
[08:36] <ubuntu> ok
[08:36] <tonyyarusso> todd: On a terminal line.  (Applications > Accessories > Terminal)
[08:36] <ubuntu> jon, he pmed me....
[08:36] <tapox> ubuntu: Or say it in the channel.
[08:36] <majd> i thought java added abstraction to all that
[08:37] <jon_> ubuntu, Ah apologizes. :)
[08:37] <todd> tonyyarusso: ok
[08:37] <lakcaj> majd, not on your life, it is very language specific, and has alot to do with how the programmer writes his code
[08:37] <todd> tonyyarusso: what do i type in
[08:37] <majd> i see
[08:37] <alex_> i can't hear audio from flash files in firefox, how do i fix th is?
[08:37] <_jason> geniusvicks: k
[08:37] <majd> ok...now i hear audio
[08:38] <majd> lol
[08:38] <jon_> alex_, You can, if you disable all other sound giving applications.  There's a work around, but it's quite the hack.  Let me dig it up...
[08:38] <tonyyarusso> todd: Do you know what your main drive is (where the master boot record you want to write is)?  Usually /dev/hda or /dev/sda.
[08:38] <majd> i always thought Nora Jones was gay (you know what i mean...)
[08:38] <geniusvicks> _jason: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11744
[08:38] <majd> but she really has an amazing voice
[08:38] <todd> tonyyarusso: no i dont know where that is but i think its hda
[08:39] <jon_> alex_, Check this link out. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=89827&highlight=arnieboy
[08:39] <todd> tonyyarusso: is the main drive
[08:39] <alex_> thanks jon
[08:39] <ubuntu> ok, well ill post here again....  I installed ubuntu with no problems, it asked me about installing grub and i clicked ok.... i then went to restart as directed then when grub loaded it got an error about drun error 10  i tried to reinstall grub with no luck at all right now im on the live cd so i can get some support  so any ideas on how to fix this would be helpful... im on a dual boot btw with win xp
[08:39] <majd> Oh yeah, one final thing....why can't i edit the ID3 tag info in Rhythmbox (even when i load it up with sudo rhythmbox )?
[08:39] <jon_> alex_ NP.
[08:39] <alex_> that doesn't say anything about sound though
[08:39] <alex_> just crashing
[08:39] <_jason> geniusvicks: seems like it's a problem with your java install.  I would remove that one and use a javadeb (the bot will link you)
[08:40] <tonyyarusso> todd: Okay.  This is pretty important, so I want to double check.  Could you type 'df -h', and put the output on pastebin?  (not here!)
[08:40] <_jason> ubotu: tell geniusvicks about javadebs
[08:40] <jon_> alex_ Ah wrong link, haha one sec.
[08:40] <todd> tonyyarusso:  how do i put stuff in the patebin
[08:40] <tapox> Alright, to fix ubuntu's problem, you can use sudo on the live cd right?
[08:40] <tonyyarusso> !pastebin
[08:40] <ubotu> [pastebin]  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[08:40] <Frogzoo_away> !tell todd about pastebin
[08:40] <ubuntu> im not sure if i can or not.... i can try though
[08:41] <Frogzoo_away> todd: you paste it @ pastebin, then post the url back here
[08:41] <tonyyarusso> todd: Just visit that webpage and copy and paste the stuff in.  (btw, copy in the terminal window is ctrl-SHIFT-c)
[08:41] <tapox> Ubuntu: Well, as I mentioned earlier, try opening terminal and typing sudo grub-install /dev/hda
[08:41] <tapox> It should work, hopefully.
[08:41] <todd> tonyyarusso: give me one sec to get that for u
[08:41] <ubuntu> no
[08:41] <ubuntu> it doesnt :/
[08:41] <ubuntu> Probing devices to guess BIOS drives. This may take a long time.
[08:41] <ubuntu> /dev/mapper/casper-snapshot does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.
[08:41] <tapox> hmm...
[08:42] <geniusvicks> _jason which one should I use
[08:42] <_jason> geniusvicks: I'm gonna go to sleep but that should work for you.  You have to create the link yourslef though since you are using ff1.5.  You can just link the the one the java package automatically should create in /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins though if you want
[08:42] <Frogzoo> !enter
[08:42] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[08:42] <jon_> alex_ This seems to easy, but try this http://roel.wordpress.com/2005/10/19/fix-sound-for-flash-on-ubuntu/
[08:42] <tapox> ubuntu: Seems that other people have had the same problem, I'm looking it up now.
[08:42] <jon_> alex_ Otherwise, Google ubuntu flash sound problems
[08:43] <geniusvicks> ok
[08:43] <ubuntu> thank you so much tapox i would look online but the live cd is so slow
[08:43] <_jason> geniusvicks: seveas' repo has sun-j2re1.5
[08:43] <todd> tonyyarusso: ok heres the link to it i guess    http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11746
[08:44] <majd> !numlock
[08:44] <ubotu> I guess numlock is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NumLock
[08:44] <geniusvicks> ok
[08:44] <geniusvicks> _jason: goodnight
[08:44] <_jason> geniusvicks: night
[08:44] <todd> tonyyarusso: is that what u wanted?
[08:45] <tonyyarusso> todd: Yes.
[08:45] <todd> tonyyarusso: k
[08:46] <tonyyarusso> todd: Okay, /boot is indeed on hda, so we'll run with that.  Try 'sudo grub-install /dev/hda/'.  You can paste the output of that too if necessary.
[08:47] <IamEthos> hey
[08:47] <IamEthos> dual monitor support in ubuntu: how do I achieve it?
[08:47] <tapox> ubuntu: It's specifically a problem with installing grub from the live-cd. Can you access your HD right now? Do you see it on the desktop?
[08:47] <todd> tonyyarusso:  its says not found or is not a block device
[08:47] <ubuntu> actually tapox i just found somthing in the wiki
[08:48] <tapox> ubuntu: Ahh, good, then I can go to sleep :)
[08:48] <ubuntu> i have linux installed on my hdd but i cannont access it
[08:48] <ubuntu> lol ty
[08:48] <ubuntu> ill try this
[08:48] <tonyyarusso> ubuntu: Care to share that page, btw?
[08:48] <tonyyarusso> todd: Okay...
[08:48] <todd> tonyyarusso:  is that good or bad
[08:49] <ubuntu> umm how do i get su - in live cd?
[08:49] <tonyyarusso> todd: Bad so far, but not necessarily fatal.
[08:49] <IamEthos> how do I use two monitors
[08:49] <todd> tonyyarusso:  k
[08:49] <IamEthos> I have a Radeon Mobility
[08:49] <ubuntu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RecoveringGrub
[08:49] <ic56> ubuntu: sudo su
[08:49] <IamEthos> (not sure of the model number, but it has a video out
[08:49] <tonyyarusso> todd: Can you tell me more about a) Your disk setup, b) What you did when you installed Ubuntu, and c) What you're running right now and how you got there.
[08:49] <IamEthos> I'm trying to use the S video out adapter for it
[08:50] <ubuntu> thank you very much!
[08:51] <todd> tonyyarusso:  my disk setup is i have one drive with windows set to cabel select and one drive linux which im on now set to cabel select, when i installed ubuntu i just had one HD at the time, and im running kubuntu right now
[08:52] <ubuntu> alright, time to try this out!
[08:53] <jessy_> klululu
[08:53] <Snook> glouglouglou
[08:54] <Auckland_Pig> when compiling source i have gcc 4.x and qemu is saying it has problems and wants me to compile with gcc 3.
[08:54] <Auckland_Pig> how do i do that?
[08:54] <tonyyarusso> todd: I'm a bit confused by the device reported for your / .  You might want to try this without the installed system running, via the live CD (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RecoveringGrub) to see if that makes a difference.  How did you partition things in the installer?
[08:56] <Mystic_Portal> tonyyarusso do you mind if i help you?
[08:56] <tonyyarusso> Mystic_Portal: Oh please do :)
[08:56] <Mystic_Portal> Let me look through the wiki ok
[08:57] <Mystic_Portal> now what exactly is your problem?
[08:57] <jessy_> hello, is somebody know about an application that convert .VOB into divx ?
[08:57] <bsdfox> jessy_, mencoder
[08:57] <jessy_> thanks alot
[08:57] <Snook> Yup, "Ripp it after me"
[08:57] <Mystic_Portal> tonyyarsso what exactly is your problem?
[08:58] <tonyyarusso> Mystic_Portal: todd is trying to add second hard drive with Windows to grub menu.  See his df -h at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11746.
[08:58] <Mystic_Portal> you need help with it or another user
[08:58] <todd> tonyyarusso: any ideas
[08:58] <Frogzoo> Auckland_Pig: install gcc3.4 & set 'CC=gcc-3.4'  & try again
[08:59] <todd> tonyyarusso: ?
[08:59] <tonyyarusso> Mystic_Portal: todd needs it.
[08:59] <Auckland_Pig> Frogzoo: where can i set CC=gcc-3.4?
[08:59] <Mystic_Portal> ok todd please reada dyour pm from ubotu
[08:59] <The> what do i have to install ba able to view wmv files? i have totem already
[08:59] <tonyyarusso> todd: See what Mystic_Portal can come up with, if nothing I'd go the live cd route next, and return if that fails.
[08:59] <Auckland_Pig> Frogzoo: can i use it as one of the option in arguments
[08:59] <Frogzoo> Auckland_Pig: from the command line, before you ./configure
[08:59] <Auckland_Pig> oh thankx
[09:00] <The> i mean as fair as are there special linux codecs?
[09:00] <Frogzoo> Auckland_Pig: however, the script to build kqemu is easier, & faster (however proprietary)
[09:00] <Mystic_Portal> Sorry i am a bit slow right now computer problems
[09:00] <Frogzoo> !tell Auckland_Pig about kqemu
[09:01] <jessy_> File not found: 'frameno.avi'
[09:01] <jessy_> Failed to open frameno.avi
[09:01] <jessy_> No file given
[09:01] <Mystic_Portal> Todd i am sending a bunch of stuff
[09:01] <Mystic_Portal> one sec
[09:02] <Zhadow> sound problem:   " OSS device /dev/dsp already in use by another program "   occurs when trying to play two sounds at once.....anyone have any idea what to do with this one
[09:03] <lesshaste> anyone found a way to encode he aac in linux?
[09:04] <Mystic_Portal> !disco
[09:04] <ubotu> Woo Yeah, boogie on down...... **flashing lights*** party :D
[09:05] <tonyyarusso> lesshaste: apt-cache search faac
[09:05] <lesshaste> tonyyarusso: I have faac.. I don't think it does he aac does it?
[09:05] <Mystic_Portal> todd i am sending the last one now
[09:05] <tonyyarusso> lesshaste: I thought that was it's point?
[09:06] <lesshaste> tonyyarusso: aac yes.... he aac no
[09:06] <tonyyarusso> lesshaste: What's he then?
[09:06] <Mystic_Portal> who needs help on aac?
[09:07] <lesshaste> tonyyarusso: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HE-AAC#aacPlus.2C_or_HE-AAC
[09:07] <Mystic_Portal> !restriced
[09:07] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Mystic_Portal
[09:07] <Mystic_Portal> !restricted
[09:07] <ubotu> it has been said that restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[09:08] <Mystic_Portal> aac is restricted
[09:08] <lesshaste> faac encodes aac
[09:08] <lesshaste> I want he aac
[09:10] <Mystic_Portal> do you want faac?
[09:10] <lesshaste> I don't think encodes "he aac"
[09:10] <lesshaste> or aacplus
[09:11] <lesshaste>  he aac == aacplus
[09:11] <todd_> sorry guys my router went down
[09:12] <todd_> mystic portal sent me something?
[09:12] <Mystic_Portal> ya i sent you a bunch
[09:12] <Mystic_Portal> would you like it again
[09:12] <todd_> sorry can u please send it again
[09:13] <Mystic_Portal> lesshaste see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CDRipping
[09:13] <todd_> oh and the windows HD dose show up in linux its under dev/hdb
[09:13] <Mystic_Portal> todd_ please use /ghost todd yourpassword
[09:13] <todd_> whats that
[09:13] <Mystic_Portal> it will kill you nick todd so you can get on it
[09:14] <Mystic_Portal> just makes it log off
[09:14] <lesshaste> Mystic_Portal: thanks but remember I want "he aac" not aac
[09:14] <Mystic_Portal> that way i can get your stuff sent to you
[09:14] <todd_> ok i did it
[09:14] <Mystic_Portal> please type /nick todd
[09:14] <todd_> k
[09:15] <Mystic_Portal> then type /msg nickserv identify password
[09:15] <Mystic_Portal> you didnt do it right
[09:15] <Mystic_Portal> umm
[09:15] <todd_> huh
[09:15] <todd_> i was typing it
[09:16] <Mystic_Portal> i need to query you
[09:16] <todd_> what do i need to do then
[09:16] <jetscreamer> then type http://freenode.net/faq.shtml
[09:17] <Mystic_Portal> ok todd_ type /msg nickserv ghost todd your_password_here
[09:17] <Mystic_Portal> leave out the _
[09:18] <todd_> it said password inncorrect
[09:18] <CaptainMorgan> why is my wireless signal intermittent? what is ubuntu doing?
[09:18] <Mystic_Portal> ok you killed it
[09:18] <todd_> is that good
[09:18] <Mystic_Portal> !wireless
[09:18] <ubotu> I heard wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers
[09:18] <Mystic_Portal> Todd_ please type /nick todd
[09:19] <Mystic_Portal> now type /msg nickserv identify password
[09:20] <Mystic_Portal> ok now say "hi"
[09:20] <sfar> Hi, is it possible to swich to another user in gnome without logging out completely?
[09:20] <sfar> (like running 2 users at the same time)
[09:20] <Mystic_Portal> !gnome
[09:20] <todd> hi
[09:20] <Mystic_Portal> tell sfar about gnome
[09:21] <Mystic_Portal> whos is banned
[09:21] <sfar> Mystic_Portal: not much help :)
[09:21] <CraiZE> <- got XGL up & running :D
[09:21] <tonyyarusso> sfar: Applications > System Tools > New Login.
[09:21] <todd> mystic: did it do what u needed to do
[09:21] <tonyyarusso> sfar: Ctrl-Alt-F{7,8} will switch between the two.
[09:21] <Mystic_Portal> i am re sending now
[09:21] <Mystic_Portal> sorry sfar
[09:21] <todd> k thanks
[09:23] <Mystic_Portal> todd i sent them all
[09:23] <Mystic_Portal> its a lot of reading :P
[09:24] <sfar> thank you.. i noticed the other (just created) user's gnome-look was the default? can i somehow copy my settings to the other users login? Like the panel setup and stuff
[09:24] <Mystic_Portal> sfar it should be in the guide
[09:24] <sfar> what guide?
[09:25] <sfar> ubotu didnt gave me any link :)
[09:25] <ubotu> sfar: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:26] <sfar> oh shaddap!
[09:26] <todd> mystic: where should i mount this volume at
[09:26] <Mystic_Portal> !gnomehelp
[09:26] <ubotu> ##gnome is a new channel dedicated to supporting Gnome users in various distros, including Ubuntu
[09:26] <AnotherFreakboy> Anyone know the best/easiest way to get the java plugin working with mozilla
[09:27] <Mystic_Portal> !firefoxplugins
[09:27] <ubotu> if you want to install firefox plugins https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins, if you already have plugins installed but lost them when you upgraded to firefox 1.5 look into !firefox1.5
[09:27] <ramza3> anybody know what configurations I need to enable for samba to work with XP out of the box, I might just enable all options
[09:27] <todd> mystic: where should i mount this volume at
[09:28] <Mystic_Portal> todd i am not sure what you mean
[09:28] <Mystic_Portal> !samba
[09:28] <ubotu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html
[09:29] <Mystic_Portal> see those ramza3
[09:29] <todd> in that thing u sent me it told me to goto disk and click on the dirve and the partition on the drive and select a mount point
[09:29] <arrick> let me nwo when your done DBO
[09:29] <arrick> know
[09:29] <todd> step 4 i belive
[09:29] <Mystic_Portal> which guide i sent you many
[09:29] <DBO> arrick, we arent doing anything you needed to leave for :-P
[09:29] <arrick> ok
[09:30] <todd> the 4th thing u sent it said to mystic_portal wants you to know: Go to System -> Administration -> Disks and enter your password. Pick the disk your partition is on from the list, then click the 'Partitions' tab. Select the partition you want to mount, set an access path (mount point) and click 'Enable'.
[09:30] <Mystic_Portal> DBO will you help todd with this
[09:30] <lnx^> so the ubuntu live cd has the option for installing ubuntu permanently on a computer as dual-boot with windows? can it partitionate the hard disk for that, too?
[09:30] <todd> ok
[09:31] <DBO> todd
[09:31] <todd> yea
[09:31] <DBO> what is your issue, give me the short and sweet version
[09:31] <Madpilot> lnx^, I think so - I haven't used the LiveCD installer yet, though
[09:31] <Cobain> how would i do i create a launcher that uses sudo?
[09:31] <todd> i have two drives one linux one windows, i want to beabelto select which OS to load when my box boots
[09:31] <sun_> how to run a program as another user?
[09:31] <ex0rcist> linux or fbsd?
[09:32] <XVampireX> Hey, is anyone out here
[09:32] <DBO> grub should have already taken care of that todd
[09:32] <ex0rcist> grub.
[09:32] <ex0rcist> lol
[09:32] <jantie> jan in malaysia is here
[09:32] <ex0rcist> UNIX PWNS YOU.
[09:32] <Mystic_Portal> !grub
[09:32] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[09:32] <XVampireX> Could anyone help me with inkscape crashing with no error? I'm on dapper but someone on kubuntu channel said I should ask here...
[09:32] <ex0rcist> !unix
[09:32] <jantie> just go on ubuntu
[09:32] <ubotu> ex0rcist: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:32] <todd> well i went into that grub thing (ESC) after bios and no windows showed up
[09:32] <Cobain> is there like gsudu or something? how does synaptic and the gnome start menu get root privs?
[09:32] <Madpilot> ex0rcist, if you're just here to troll, please go away before I have to kick you. thanks.
[09:33] <Mystic_Portal> !caps
[09:33] <ubotu> FYI, typing in ALL CAPS is considered to be 'yelling', and therefore rude behaviour.
[09:33] <jantie> skype ?
[09:33] <ex0rcist> Madpilot
[09:33] <ex0rcist> i want to know how to install linux.
[09:33] <jantie> anybody kknow sth. on skype
[09:33] <ex0rcist> unix isnt working for me.
[09:33] <ex0rcist> i know it all already
[09:33] <roryy> !tell jantie about skype
[09:34] <XVampireX> Could anyone help me with inkscape crashing with no error? I'm on dapper but someone on kubuntu channel said I should ask here... http://pastebin.com/647451
[09:34] <todd> is there away to send private messages through this IRC
[09:34] <DBO> todd, are you in windows or linux?
[09:34] <todd> linux
[09:34] <ex0rcist> Madpilot,  your OS is based on a circle of niggers holding hands
[09:34] <jenda> todd: /msg or /notice
[09:34] <DBO> bye
[09:34] <Madpilot> anyone else, while I'm op'd?
[09:34] <DBO> thanks Madpilot
[09:34] <XVampireX> Hello?
[09:35] <ubuntu> Hi, can someone tell me how to gain root access in live cd?
[09:35] <Mystic_Portal> Thankyou madpilot
[09:35] <sfar> Is it possible to create custom keyboard shortcuts to applications and stuff? (applications that is not listed in system->prefs->keyb shortcuts)
[09:35] <carsten> ubuntu: su<ENTER>
[09:36] <ubuntu> it asks for a password...
[09:36] <ic56> ubuntu: sudo su
[09:36] <Madpilot> ubuntu, use sudo, Ubuntu has no root pw/user by default
[09:37] <DBO> ic56, the sudo syntax for a command line session is sudo -s (i think)
[09:37] <ubuntu> thank you ic56, i remeber asking before :)
[09:37] <ubuntu> getting pissed at linux
[09:37] <ubuntu> if i cant even boot into my windows im in trouble :)
[09:38] <DBO> todd (sorry Im slow today, helping in another channel too), pastebin /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:38] <mantono> What is the command for searching for packages in the repos?
[09:38] <ubuntu> is there anyway i can reload my default loader that i used before grub?
[09:38] <ubuntu> or how can i use lilo instaed?
[09:39] <ic56> mantono apt-cache search <any string>
[09:39] <tonyyarusso> mantono: apt-cache search
[09:40] <Makaveli> Salut
[09:41] <ic56> !fr
[09:41] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:41] <Makaveli> thanks
[09:42] <MYP> bye people im off
[09:43] <freakabcd> hi all
[09:44] <freakabcd> my gl is messed up i think.
[09:44] <MYP> gl?
[09:44] <freakabcd> would enabling xinerama on i810 driver make opengl performance drop drastically ?
[09:44] <MYP> dont know
[09:45] <roryy> isn't salut italian?
[09:45] <MYP> !it
[09:45] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[09:46] <MYP> yes both ways
[09:46] <WebLOCH> Can anyone recommend some ERD tools?
[09:46] <MYP> !erd
[09:46] <ubotu> MYP: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:46] <MYP> lol
[09:46] <PwcrLinux> lol
[09:46] <sun_> how can you invoke "bash -c ..." such that environment variables like $HOME, $USER are available to ... ?
[09:46] <WebLOCH> haha that result seems to be logs or similar
[09:47] <WebLOCH> Any serious options?
[09:47] <[SEAWOLF] > !erd
[09:47] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, [SEAWOLF] 
[09:47] <Dissident> hey everyone I just installed ubuntu to dual boot with xp and stupid me I checked options above 1024x768 for monitor resolutions during installation without thinking that the nvidia drivers haven't been installed yet.  Once X starts up I get garbage on the screen.  Is there an easy fix for this?
[09:48] <MYP> !duel
[09:48] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, MYP
[09:48] <WebLOCH> Dissident, it doesnt return any results, I just said
[09:48] <Snook> I have the same probleme, and fond the solution on the french wiki of ubuntu
[09:49] <MYP> snook
[09:49] <MYP> !fr
[09:49] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:49] <roryy> Dissident: can you get to the command line?
[09:49] <PwcrLinux> try vga=771?
[09:50] <Snook> Yes
[09:50] <roryy> Dissident: Ctl-Alt-F1 might get you there
[09:50] <todd> can anyone help me with my prolbem
[09:50] <Dissident> ahhh...ok, then what?
[09:50] <DBO> todd, pastebin /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:50] <roryy> Dissident: login and run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[09:50] <DBO> (if its still your grub issue)
[09:50] <todd> yes
[09:50] <roryy> Dissident: when sudo asks for a password, enter your user password
[09:50] <todd> it is
[09:51] <roryy> Dissident: once you've completed the config, restart X: 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart'
[09:52] <todd> where do i type that in
[09:54] <todd> where do i type that in
[09:54] <Madpilot> todd, where do you type what in?
[09:55] <todd> pastebin /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:57] <Madpilot> todd, open a terminal, type "gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst" then pastebin the contents of the file that opens
[09:57] <Madpilot> !pastebin
[09:57] <ubotu> well, pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[09:57] <ubuntu_user_1> Hello all, quick newbie question -- I am attempting to run ./configure on an application I downloaded called rdesktop-1.4.1 -- a message returns that says, "Couldn't find openssl libraries use --with-openssl option to fix this problem". So I type $which openssl to get the directory and then retry the ./configure --with-openssl=/usr/bin/openssl , but I get the same error. Anyone see where I amgoing wrong?
[09:57] <todd> ?????
[09:57] <DBO> todd, oh sorry, you have to say my name if you need my attention, otherwise I dont notice
[09:58] <todd> o ok
[09:58] <todd> DBO: so what do i do
[09:58] <DBO> type "cat /boot/grub/menu.lst > ~/newfile"
[09:58] <renlore> are there any quality linux based games out there?
[09:58] <todd> DBO: in terminal
[09:58] <DBO> yes
[09:58] <WebLOCH> renlore, any of the ID or Unreal games
[09:59] <renlore> whats ID?
[09:59] <Madpilot> renlore, sure - depends what you're into
[09:59] <DBO> todd, after that there will be a file in your home directory named "newfile" open it up and pastebin its contents
[09:59] <WebLOCH> renlore, are rather large company, they made Quake, Doom etc
[09:59] <renlore> is there any database of linux games with rating etc? :)
[10:00] <WebLOCH> renlore, yes but i cant remember where it is, you have different formats, like native binary and WINE/CEDEGA supported
[10:00] <roryy> renlore: this is one such place: http://www.happypenguin.org/
[10:00] <WebLOCH> ty rorry
[10:00] <WebLOCH> ty roryy *
[10:01] <renlore> thanks
[10:01] <todd> DBO: heres the thign    http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11747
[10:02] <Hit3k> has there been an actual date for the next ubuntu?
[10:02] <DBO> todd, yep, no windows in there =P
[10:02] <Madpilot> Hit3k, June 1st
[10:02] <todd> DBO: so how do i get it in there
[10:02] <DBO> todd, how many hard drives have you?
[10:02] <Hit3k> Madpilot, thank you
[10:02] <todd> DBO: 2
[10:03] <todd> DBO: both are set to cable select if that matters?
[10:03] <DBO> todd, no it doesnt, is one linux and one windows?
[10:03] <todd> DBO: right
[10:03] <DBO> todd, you didnt by chance go into BIOS and change your hard drive boot order at some point did you?
[10:04] <todd> DBO: shouldnt the HD boot first
[10:04] <defcon8> root@defcon8:/home/defcon8/Desktop/azureus# apt-cache update
[10:04] <defcon8> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/gb.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[10:04] <defcon8> what is with that?
[10:04] <todd> DBO: i think the HD is #1 i havent changed it
[10:04] <defcon8> has more things that it cant find aswell
[10:04] <DBO> todd, ok, thats all I needed to know is that you didnt touch it
[10:04] <todd> DBO: k
[10:05] <todd> DBO: k
[10:05] <Smerity> hey, just installing ubuntu onto another laptop, will ubuntu recognise wifi by default, or will an ethernet cable be necessary till later?
[10:06] <Madpilot> Smerity, that depends on your wireless chipset
[10:06] <FliesLikeABrick> defcon8  does `apt-get update` give the same error?
[10:06] <todd> DBO: can we still do this
[10:06] <DBO> todd, yes, you need to wait a couple minutes please
[10:06] <ubuntu_user_1> Smerity, during the install of Breezy it found both, I enabled the wired ethernet port and then switched over to eth1 in network properties.
[10:07] <Smerity> Madpilot - It's a Centrino (argh), but does that mean Ubuntu _could_ actually autodetect wifi and set it up thru there
[10:07] <Smerity> oh sweet
[10:07] <todd> DBO: sorry man my bad
[10:07] <WebLOCH> Anyone here use any Entity Relationship diagramming at all ?
[10:07] <Smerity> thanks ubuntu_user_1 and Madpilot =)
[10:07] <defcon8> FliesLikeABrick, that is where the error comes from
[10:07] <defcon8> oh apt-get
[10:07] <defcon8> sorry lol
[10:07] <todd> DBO: lol its just its 4 in the morning over here and i have been messing with this for hours
[10:07] <defcon8> no its ok now thanks
[10:08] <DBO> todd, we will get it working in 10 minutes
[10:08] <Smerity> ubuntu_user_1, Madpilot - Just got up to network detect, and lovely Ubuntu got both ^_^ Thanks for the help
[10:08] <DBO> todd, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11749
[10:08] <DBO> I added stuff to the bottom
[10:08] <Madpilot> Smerity, nice when it works, isn't it? :P
[10:08] <DBO> it MAY not work right away (depending on your setup) but we can get it going
[10:09] <Din> hay
[10:09] <ubuntu_user_1> Smerity, sweet.
[10:09] <Din> need help on instzalling phpmyadmin
[10:09] <todd> DBO: yea thats the link i sent u right
[10:09] <roryy> WebLOCH: looked at Umbrello? It's in the universe repository
[10:09] <Din> this offical ubuntu apckage is very old
[10:10] <FliesLikeABrick> Din  so download a new one from www.phpmyadmin.net and extract it into your webserver where you want it
[10:10] <DBO> todd, yeah, but its changed now
[10:10] <WebLOCH> rorry, nasty KDE software, but yeah ill check it out thanks
[10:10] <todd> DBO: k so what do i need to do with it
[10:10] <todd> DBO: copy/paste
[10:10] <DBO> todd "sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst"
[10:11] <DBO> then add those paste those changes into the bottom
[10:11] <todd> DBO: k
[10:11] <mthakur> how do you install apache2 on ubuntu?
[10:11] <FliesLikeABrick> !tell mthakur about apache2
[10:11] <WebLOCH> !pache2
[10:11] <ubotu> WebLOCH: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:11] <WebLOCH> haha
[10:11] <WebLOCH> my bad
[10:11] <mthakur> ?
[10:11] <FliesLikeABrick> mthakur sudo apt-get install apache2
[10:12] <mthakur> is that it
[10:12] <Madpilot> !+apache
[10:12] <ubotu> I heard apache is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[10:12] <FliesLikeABrick> or use a GUI like Adept or synaptic to install it
[10:12] <Madpilot> mthakur, see the URL ubotu just posted ^^^
[10:12] <mthakur> what do you search for in synaptic
[10:12] <Din> i tried but i get so many errors
[10:12] <FliesLikeABrick> mthakur  most likely apache ?
[10:12] <mthakur> yes
[10:12] <todd> DBO: it says its a read olny file and   Could not create per-user gnome configuration directory `/root/.gnome2/': Read-only file system
[10:13] <arrick> mthakur, search for apache2, better package
[10:13] <ubuntu_user_1> mthakur, I found the following tutorial, it is more geared toward ruby on rails but it has all of the apache installation commands - you should be able to cut and paste http://davidwinter.me.uk/articles/2006/02/05/ubuntu-5-10-web-server-howto
[10:13] <DBO> todd, are you ok to use nano?
[10:13] <mthakur> newayz thanks Flieslikeabrick
[10:13] <todd> DBO: olny if ur helping me through it
[10:13] <DBO> todd, did you put the sudo in front of the command like I said?
[10:13] <todd> DBO: yes
[10:13] <Din> and btw how to delte everything in mysql
[10:13] <Madpilot> ubuntu_user_1, have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[10:13] <Din> is there other way then removing and reinstalling
[10:14] <todd> DBO: todd@ubuntu:~$ sudo getedit /boot/grub/menu.lst     thats what i typed
[10:14] <todd> DBO: wait
[10:14] <DBO> todd, its gedit, not getedit
[10:14] <todd> DBO: this was what i typed     sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:14] <ubuntu_user_1> Madpilot, yeah that's much easier
[10:15] <todd> DBO: and all that came up
[10:15] <tonyyarusso> Is it possible to merge 3 Thunderbird profiles worth of e-mails so that all messages are in one profile?
[10:16] <DBO> todd, ok
[10:16] <DBO> todd "sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst"
[10:17] <ubuntu_user_1> Madpilot, are you familiar with trying to track down specific libraries in ubuntu? I have an application that is looking for the openssl library but I can't find anything that looks like openssl in /lib... but I am able to run openssl.
[10:17] <DBO> hold the down arrow till you get to the bottom of the file
[10:17] <Madpilot> ubuntu_user_1, nope - apt-get/Synaptic isn't finding the right stuff for you?
[10:17] <todd> DBO: im at the end
[10:17] <saif> i dont understand this rc thing, i have a service, i found the file /etc/rc0.d/K20tomcat5 which is alink to the file itself, how do i stop tomcat from starting automatically?
[10:18] <DBO> todd, now in the pastebin, get those last line on your "clipboard" by highlighting them, right clicking them, and selecting copy
[10:18] <DBO> todd, tell me when that is done
[10:18] <DBO> JUST the new lines
[10:18] <roryy> saif: 'sudo update-rc.d -f tomcat remove'
[10:18] <liable> ubuntu_user_1: you now which lib its looking for? if so, install apt-file and search which package its ion.
[10:18] <liable> s/ion/in/
[10:18] <ubuntu_user_1> Madpilot, I did a search for open, ssl, openssl but didn't really turn up anything. Is it possible to run openssl without the libraries? I am guessing the answer is yes.
[10:18] <todd> DBO: u mean line 124-28
[10:19] <DBO> yes
[10:19] <roryy> or use packages.ubuntu.com to search for files ;) if you have low bandwidth like me
[10:19] <todd> DBO: 1 sec
[10:19] <Madpilot> ubuntu_user_1, I really don't know - haven't had to do anything with openssl
[10:19] <ubuntu_user_1> liable, it is specifically asking for the path to my openssl library.
[10:19] <saif> :) that is the command i needed update-rc.d! i guess same command to add stuff! will check out a howto! thanx rorry
[10:19] <ubuntu_user_1> Madpilot, ahh, well thanks anyway.
[10:19] <todd> DBO: done u want to check it out to make sure its ok first
[10:20] <DBO> did you paste it into nano?
[10:20] <todd> DBO: yea under the last line
[10:20] <DBO> todd,  very good
[10:20] <ubuntu_user_1> liable, but I can't find anything in synaptic that matches...
[10:20] <todd> DBO: just like it is in pastebin
[10:20] <DBO> todd, perfect
[10:20] <DBO> now press ctrl + x
[10:20] <DBO> and then y
[10:21] <todd> DBO: what do i save it as
[10:21] <liable> ubuntu_user_1: if you have openssl, you should have libssl. i dunno what its looking for.
[10:21] <roryy> ubuntu_user_1: what library is it looking for ?
[10:21] <DBO> todd /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:22] <DBO> todd, now type "cat /boot/grub/menu.lst"
[10:22] <todd> k it saved
[10:22] <todd> now what
[10:22] <DBO> do you see it the new entries at the bottom?
[10:22] <todd> bottom of what
[10:22] <DBO> todd, now type "cat /boot/grub/menu.lst"
[10:22] <todd> it closed nano when i saved
[10:23] <todd> yea theey are there
[10:23] <DBO> good
[10:23] <ubuntu_user_1> liable, it prompts me to use the --with-openssl option to fix the problem - so I tried typing ./configure --with-openssl=/lib
[10:23] <roryy> ooh
[10:23] <DBO> todd, now comes the part where you pray to your god
[10:23] <ubuntu_user_1> liable, but it didn't find it.
[10:23] <roryy> you need the dev packages
[10:23] <todd> DBO: u wanna chekc it out just to be sure?
[10:24] <DBO> todd, im sure its fine, I trust you
[10:24] <[Spooky] > anyone have any tip on a good Podcast application ?
[10:24] <roryy> ubuntu_user_1: try installing libssl-dev
[10:24] <ubuntu_user_1> roryy, was that directed to me? I need development packages?
[10:24] <DBO> todd, reboot, you SHOULD see a new entry in GRUB
[10:24] <ubuntu_user_1> roryy, ok I'll look in synaptic.
[10:24] <todd> DBO: ok what prayer do i say and what do i do next
[10:24] <todd> hit ESC after bios?
[10:25] <DBO> todd, "Dear lord, please dont let us fudge up"
[10:25] <todd> ok brb in a sec....................maybe
[10:25] <ubuntu_user_1> roryy, I found libssl0.9.6 - I am guessing that I could just hit google and download it that way as well?
[10:25] <roryy> ubuntu_user_1: i recommend using ubuntu packages
[10:25] <roryy> ubuntu_user_1: what are you trying to compile?
[10:25] <Din> how to reset everything in mysql
[10:26] <PwcrLinux> Oh, that should be after a system logo disappeared and wait grub comes up and press ESC key
[10:27] <ubuntu_user_1> roryy, I am trying to compile rdesktop-1.4.1 so that I can connect to a windows machine using RDP.
[10:27] <liable> ubuntu_user_1: if you are compiling you might need the libssl-dev package.
[10:27] <roryy> ubuntu_user_1: rdesktop 1.4.1 is in the ubuntu repositories
[10:27] <ubuntu_user_1> roryy, I am going to install the 0.9.8 version and see if it works. If not I found this website in google -
[10:27] <DBO> hi Frogzoo, would you like to join me in praying I didnt hose todd's box?
[10:28] <ubuntu_user_1> roryy, will rdesktop connect using RDP? I thought I would have to load vnc on the windows machine?
[10:29] <liable> the kde one does rpd to iirc.
[10:29] <roryy> ubuntu_user_1: according to rdesktop's description, it is an 'RDP client'. I do not know what that means.  However, I highly recommend trying the ubuntu-provided package before attempting to compile your own
[10:29] <snadge> what happened to the 3270 packages? :(
[10:29] <ubuntu_user_1> roryy, --sorry it's late I didn't fully read your last post - I understand now - I should install rdesktop from synaptic.
[10:29] <DBO> snadge, im sorry?  what are you asking?
[10:30] <ubuntu_user_1> roryy, instead of trying to compile it.
[10:30] <will-h> RDP = the protocol rdesktop uses - it's for connecting to windows terminal servers (or, e.g XP with remote access enabled). It's not VNC.
[10:31] <snadge> for example x3270 seems to have disappeared in breezy, but it was in hoary
[10:31] <roryy> what is the application launched by Applications -> Internet -> Terminal server client -- is that something different to an RDP client ? (I see mention of RDP if I launch it)
[10:31] <PwcrLinux> DBO: Hmm Todd might something wrong with it, it's took too long?
[10:31] <DBO> PwcrLinux, stop making me have a heart attack...
[10:31] <will-h> roryy: looks like that's a frontend for various different things - including RDP and VNC
[10:31] <todd> back
[10:31] <DBO> WOOO!
[10:32] <DBO> I didnt hose it!
[10:32] <roryy> ubuntu_user_1: have you tried that app?
[10:32] <DBO> todd, any luck?
[10:32] <todd> DBO IS GOD
[10:32] <todd> works great man thanks a bunch
[10:32] <DBO> todd, I told you it would be running in 10
[10:32] <DBO> =)
[10:32] <DBO> now if I could only get mine to work...
[10:32] <todd> dude is this ur job or something
[10:32] <DBO> no
[10:32] <DBO> this is my hobbie
[10:32] <todd> why not
[10:33] <DBO> my job is to sit in a server room and drink coffee
[10:33] <ubuntu_user_1> roryy, no I am still trying to find it in synaptic. Synaptic is the same as ubuntu repositories, correct?
[10:33] <PwcrLinux> DBO: well, are you mad at me?
[10:33] <DBO> PwcrLinux, oh no
[10:33] <todd> lo u know whats sad too im in college and a IT major but my linux classes dont start till next semester
[10:33] <roryy> ubuntu_user_1: first try 'Applications -> Internet -> Terminal services client'
[10:33] <PwcrLinux> DBO: you said "Stop" like that, make me embrassed
[10:33] <DBO> todd, something tells me the ubuntu folks arent going to pay me to help the newbers here
[10:34] <todd> thats why i have no idea how linux works.....yet
[10:34] <DBO> PwcrLinux, yeah, I was getting worried because he took so long to come back...  sorry, little jumpy
[10:34] <PwcrLinux> DBO: Oh
[10:34] <trae> is there a command i can run to check my kernel version?
[10:34] <DBO> trae, uname -r
[10:34] <roryy> ubuntu_user_1: Synaptic does use the ubuntu internet repositories -- you may need to set it up to do so, though.
[10:34] <todd> hence, why im useing linux now to get everythign ready for next semester
[10:35] <ubuntu_user_1> roryy, by editing sources.lists?
[10:35] <todd> dude seriously ur in the wrong profession or something u need to be doing this for a living just with linux
[10:35] <roryy> ubuntu_user_1: yeah, or properties -> repositories in synaptic (i think)
[10:35] <roryy> !tell ubuntu_user_1 about repos
[10:35] <Cin> Where do application files go in Linux?
[10:35] <DBO> todd, oh I thought you meant do I talk in this chat room for a living, no I do server admin as a job
[10:36] <Zeff> hi guys
[10:36] <chenjf> anybody knows why after upgrading to dapper from breezy,labels of all mounted partitions shown as "DATA" in gnome desktop?
[10:36] <roryy> Cin: lots of places. Synaptic will list all files belong to a particular package, or you can run 'dpkg -L package-name'
[10:36] <DBO> !dapper
[10:36] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[10:36] <todd> well my major is IT but my minor is Unix/Linix networking but my unix/linux classes dont start till next semester
[10:37] <Frogzoo> Cin: libraries in /lib & binaries in /usr/bin /usr/local/bin & admin tools in /usr/sbin
[10:37] <saptech> hello everybody
[10:37] <Zeff> i'm a linux newbie
[10:37] <Zeff> i need some basic explanation
[10:37] <DBO> todd, if you need any help with those, Id be more than happy.  Remember, the REAL reason to learn linux is so you can be superior to windows lusers
[10:37] <DBO> Zeff, what do you need?
[10:37] <todd> thats why im in here getting help b/c ive been exposed to linux a whole 3 days so far yet
[10:37] <Zeff> i installed ubuntu
[10:37] <johannes__> how could i save my desktop configuration to dapper?
[10:37] <todd> well i use macs so im ok there lol
[10:37] <Cin> Yeah but I downloaded rarlinux from winrar.com and it has a few files apart from the binary itself.
[10:37] <johannes__> which file needs
[10:38] <Zeff> but i don't know differences among dapper, breezy or other versions
[10:38] <DBO> todd, Im not touching that one with a 10 foot pole
[10:38] <Zeff> what is it?
[10:38] <DBO> Zeff, breezy is the newest stable version
[10:38] <tonyyarusso> Zeff: Breezy is the current stable.  Dapper is in development, to be released 1 June.
[10:38] <DBO> Dapper is the development version
[10:38] <will-h> Zeff: breezy is the current stable released version and you should run that.
[10:38] <DBO> next time we can use bats!
[10:38] <todd> i do alot of coco, and carbon programming for the macs so thats why i use them plus i work for apple too
[10:39] <todd> so i get a nice discount
[10:39] <will-h> my mac is broken atm :(
[10:39] <Zeff> i thought that every version was for different subjects
[10:39] <Zeff> isn't it?
[10:39] <john66251> Can anyone please tell me what prog on ubuntu plays midi files????
[10:39] <DBO> Zeff, no
[10:39] <Zeff> ok tnx
[10:39] <Frogzoo> Cin: usually there'll be a file called INSTALL or README - describing install instructions, but often programs are distributed as source code & you may have to compile it
[10:39] <tonyyarusso> Zeff: That's Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu/Edubuntu distinction.
[10:39] <todd> dbo u got a S/n i could hit u up on if i have any more complicated questions next term
[10:39] <Zeff> ok tony tnx
[10:40] <DBO> todd, for what protocol?
[10:40] <todd> aim
[10:40] <Zeff> i already knew this...i only wasnt able to understand what dapper and breezy were
[10:40] <tonyyarusso> (Still not exactly subjects, but I think that's what he was getting at.)
[10:40] <Zeff> i know now
[10:40] <Cin> Yeah I'm used to the old configure and make in BSD. This came in as a binary with no source. The readme.txt just has info about how great it is and what it can do.
[10:40] <Zeff> tnx, u all r very kind
[10:40] <freakabcd> can someone take a look at this porum post and tell me if theres anything dangerous in there?
[10:40] <DBO> Zeff, use breezy
[10:40] <Zeff> ok
[10:40] <DBO> =)
[10:40] <tonyyarusso> Zeff: Wonderful!  Enjoy, and we hope to see you around often.
[10:40] <roryy> Cin: you know that ubuntu has unrar utilities in the repositories?
[10:40] <freakabcd> ie. i'm going to follow those instructions and want to know if theres anything that will mess up my system
[10:41] <DBO> good luck Zeff if you have ANY questions, we would love to help
[10:41] <freakabcd> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=155762&highlight=i810
[10:41] <Cin> roryy, no. I wouldn't be going through this trouble if I did. ;P
[10:41] <Zeff> i downloaded ubuntu 5.10, is it breezy or not?
[10:41] <ubuntu_user_1> roryy, HA! Terminal Service Client worked!
[10:41] <tonyyarusso> Zeff: Yes.
[10:41] <roryy> ubuntu_user_1: good stuff
[10:41] <FoxHound01> apache2 question: i would like to put htaccess on my cgi-bin directory, but after putting the htaccess file in the cgi-bin directory it still doesn't work, and i assume this is because its not a CGI file, how could i password protect my cgi-bin dir.?
[10:41] <johannes__> how could i save my desktop configuration to dapper?
[10:41] <roryy> Cin: look for the unrar and unrar-nonfree packages
[10:41] <Zeff> ok but how can i check my version?
[10:41] <Zeff> is it written anywhere?
[10:42] <john66251> can anyone advise me what prog in ubuntu plays midi files PLZ???
[10:42] <Frogzoo> john66251: apt-cache search midi
[10:42] <roryy> Zeff: run 'lsb_release -a' in a terminal (applications -> accessories -> terminal)
[10:42] <patrick52222> how do i install apache
[10:42] <Zeff> ok
[10:42] <konfuzed> is there an ubuntu users nvidia dedicated site some where
[10:42] <DBO> patrick52222, "sudo apt-get install apache2"
[10:42] <john66251> thanks froggy!!!
[10:42] <Frogzoo> !tell konfuzed about nvidia
[10:43] <ubuntu_user_1> patrick52222, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[10:43] <Frogzoo> yw
[10:43] <Zeff> (however i'm sorry for my english, i hope it's clear enough)
[10:43] <todd> DBO: did u get that
[10:43] <DBO> its very good Zeff
[10:43] <DBO> get what?
[10:43] <Zeff> tnx
[10:43] <tonyyarusso> Zeff: (No problem so far!  If you would prefer to use a different language sometimes though, there are other channels that offer that.
[10:43] <todd> u got a sn i could hit u up on if i had some question next term about my unix/linux stuff
[10:44] <patrick52222> does apache take php5
[10:44] <will-h> Zeff: you can also see the current versiony ou are using in the Synaptic Package manager (->Repositories)
[10:44] <FoxHound01> yes
[10:44] <DBO> todd, yes, I just sent you a private chat
[10:44] <Frogzoo> !tell patrick about lamp
[10:44] <johannes__> if i upgrade to dapper can i just save my home partition and mount it again?thx guys
[10:44] <todd> DBO: is it going to pop up ?
[10:44] <konfuzed> thats not really enough about nvidia. cuz I want to get some disc together with all the packages needed to install a new system with nvidia chipset motherboards
[10:44] <DBO> its going to be in the server list...
[10:45] <patrick52222> Frogzoo: didnt get that lamp
[10:45] <DBO> todd, just join #dbo
[10:45] <Jhair> johannes__: I don't think upgrading to dapper would touch your /home partiotion...
[10:45] <Frogzoo> !lamp
[10:45] <ubotu> Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[10:45] <Jhair> partition
[10:45] <todd> DBO: im in it
[10:45] <Frogzoo> patrick52222: pls register with nickserv so the bot can pm you
[10:45] <DBO> no you are not:-P
[10:45] <todd> i said hey
[10:45] <konfuzed> this nvida board does not enable net or video from install cd so I cant get even download the packages needed to update kernel or install drivers
[10:45] <patrick52222> how do i reg my nick
[10:46] <DBO> todd, you are not registered
[10:46] <tonyyarusso> !register
[10:46] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[10:46] <Zeff> i need another explanation: what about linux files format? i mean...in windows executable file r .exe... documents .doc...and in linux?
[10:46] <DBO> todd, in this window type "/j #dbo"
[10:46] <tonyyarusso> Zeff: You can have file extensions, but it is not required.
[10:46] <will-h> Zeff: they don't have .anything
[10:46] <Frogzoo> johannes__: there will be setting you want to save from /etc - but you'll need to restore them piece by piece eg. /etc/hdparm.conf
[10:46] <shreevatsa> Zeff: The filetype is determined by looking at the contents of the file itself, not by the extension
[10:47] <shreevatsa> how do I find out what motherboard I have?
[10:47] <FoxHound01> unlike windows
[10:47] <will-h> Zeff: if you use 'file <filename>' in a terminal it'll tell you what kind of file it is
[10:47] <johannes__> is upgrading to dapper better made by a new install via a dapper cd in june or by dist-upgrade?
[10:47] <tonyyarusso> Zeff: You can run executables by just typing their name, provided they're in the path.  For instance, if I type 'firefox' in a terminal it runs Mozilla Firefox.
[10:47] <konfuzed> Zeff, file types are essentially defined by whats in the file header if anything at all. executable is merely a permissions bit that can be set for any file or directory
[10:47] <Zeff> ok tnx
[10:48] <FoxHound01> can you "break" your clipboard? I cant copy anything and then be able to paste it again
[10:48] <konfuzed> shreevatsa, reboot the box and or open the box and look for a model number
[10:48] <tonyyarusso> FoxHound01: I've found that if copying between apps I have to have the one I copied from still open to be able to paste.
[10:48] <Jhair> johannes__: an upgrade through dist-upgrade is more comfortable than installing everything from scratch I think
[10:48] <shreevatsa> konfuzed: oh, of course... thanks :)
[10:48] <FoxHound01> i wasn't closing it...
[10:48] <FoxHound01> ah
[10:48] <FoxHound01> you have to keep the FILE open
[10:48] <strav> hi... I'm currently trying to setup my system (dns, mx records, bind and sendmail) to receive mails via my direct connection... If someone could clarify the process a bit, would be much appreciated.
[10:49] <johannes__> Frogzoo:i have already /etc on an own partition :how should i use that?
[10:49] <Auckland_Pig> hi
[10:49] <FoxHound01> i was copying text out of one file to another, and closed the first file
[10:49] <FoxHound01> at least i think thats what did it
[10:49] <Auckland_Pig> ubotu tell me about qemu
[10:49] <Zeff> i have a adsl usb modem, i found linux drivers and a file called firmware...what is it?
[10:49] <FoxHound01> maybe synergy is messing with it
[10:49] <Auckland_Pig> hi
[10:50] <Zeff> i think it's a part of software that must be installed inside the modem, isnt it?
[10:50] <johannes__> Jhair: but isnt doing that from scratch better? i heard its often not so sophisticated that the new install works much more flawless
[10:50] <Frogzoo> johannes__: you should backup /etc & let the install reformat the /etc partition, as dapper will have its own ideas about what /etc should look like, once the upgrade is finished, any files you've modified in /etc will need to be redone
[10:50] <konfuzed> uh why isnt the nvidia chipset drivers included on the install cd?
[10:51] <FoxHound01> because they aren't Free Software
[10:51] <will-h> FoxHound01: synergy does do clipboard things
[10:51] <konfuzed> oh those buggers
[10:51] <will-h> so that may be your problem
[10:51] <strav> sights ... first lets burn a cigarette
[10:51] <FoxHound01> I know, and it wasn't copying windows=>xubuntu a few minutes ago, so that coulda just been it
[10:51] <konfuzed> they shold license canonical to include it with ubuntu
[10:52] <patrick52222>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY <399313>
[10:52] <will-h> they should opensource it
[10:52] <konfuzed> start a petition
[10:52] <johannes__> do they send dapper cds for free? flight cds too?
[10:52] <strav> is a sociopath someone who follows the path of the society?
[10:52] <FoxHound01> there ya go
[10:52] <will-h> but that argument's been had a thousand times
[10:52] <patrick52222>  /msg NickServ patrick52222 <399313>
[10:53] <liable> whoops
[10:53] <phrizer> heh
[10:53] <Jhair> johannes__: my personal experience is dist-upgrade works in most cases. Never had problems with it.
[10:53] <Frogzoo> everyone, look away, look away!
[10:53] <Cin> Do KDE programs crash regularly or am I just having bad luck?
[10:53] <WebLOCH> Cin, are you running KDE?
[10:53] <WebLOCH> Cin,  or KDE apps in Gnome?
[10:53] <Cin> Cin, yah.
[10:53] <Cin> KDE.
[10:54] <WebLOCH> Cin, no idea then, i sometimes have trouble in gnome, but not much
[10:54] <johannes__> Jhair is this the way most and exoperienced guys do too?
[10:54] <Frogzoo> Cin: I think there's something wrong there
[10:54] <WebLOCH> Cin, if its any consolation you can upgrade to gnome for free
[10:54] <strav> you know what cinderella said: cin->cout.
[10:54] <konfuzed> so would it be better to install a flight 6 and then the nvidia kernel updates or install 5.10 then nvidia and then upgrade to dapper in 3 months
[10:55] <strav> and see ya
[10:55] <Frogzoo> Cin: most gui crashes are related to your xserver - upgrade your vid driver
[10:55] <Cin> strav, it's >> you foon. :P
[10:55] <Frogzoo> konfuzed: you'll be happier sticking with 5.10 for the moment
[10:55] <[Spooky] > anyone have any tip on a good Podcast application ?
[10:56] <konfuzed> it seems like a lot of effort to do it again in 3 months
[10:56] <konfuzed> [Spooky] , shourcast is good for that
[10:56] <konfuzed> uh shoutcast
[10:56] <Frogzoo> konfuzed: but you'll dodge all the bugs that come with running a beta releases, so much less trouble this way
[10:57] <Din> hay
[10:57] <[Spooky] > konfuzed: for listening ?
[10:57] <Din> does anyone know how to install phpmyadmin on ubuntu, but somehow the new version
[10:57] <Din> this package of ubuntu is very old
[10:57] <Frogzoo> anyway konfuzed, upgrading a video driver is really no big deal
[10:58] <konfuzed> not the video the motherboard chipset
[10:58] <konfuzed> well video too but the motherboard chipset is most of my concern
[10:58] <Frogzoo> konfuzed: lspci will reveal all
[10:58] <konfuzed> its all nvidia
[10:59] <roryy> Din: /list #php
[10:59] <roryy> doh
[10:59] <konfuzed> nforce 430/410 and the net card doesnt want to run without the chipset drivers
[10:59] <AleXC_> Hey,
[10:59] <roryy> Din: have you tried asking in ##php or #phpmyadmin ?
[10:59] <AleXC_> Why is the File Browers in Dapper not the ... normal one?
[10:59] <Jhair> johannes__: the dist-upgrade way is known in Debian (the distribution on which Ubuntu is based) as the way of eternal upgrade :)
[11:00] <AleXC_> It's like all compact, with no buttons etc
[11:00] <johannes__> has anybody experience with buying a subnote book for library and using it with external tft screen and usb keybord at home? is this recommendable?
[11:00] <Jhair> johannes__: if the ubuntu guys do the release right you should not have more issues upgrading from breezy to dapper through dist-upgrade as reinstalling everything from scratch
[11:01] <konfuzed> so ive got to go to my buddies place to put a cd together that has the gcc upgrade kernel sources and both nvidia downloads and hopefully thre are no other dependencies waiting. Cuz after I burn that to a cd I can go over to my other buddy with this deadduck nvidia box just to install the chipset driver
[11:01] <konfuzed> ridiculous
[11:02] <zokzok> ich will ins deutsche chat
[11:02] <|{tonyyarusso> !de
[11:02] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de
[11:02] <johannes__> Jhair: thanks, you know i read this big book by micheal kofler and he sayd i rarley works, but mabe he referred to SUSE, and it was from 2002 ( i think) so ubuntu didnt even exist then
[11:02] <bsdfox> "I will speak in german" ??
[11:03] <konfuzed> bon soir
[11:03] <|{tonyyarusso> bsdfox: So it is...
[11:03] <bsdfox> AleXC_, right click -> browse
[11:03] <bsdfox> nautilus --browser
[11:03] <will-h> bsdfox: 'will' = want
[11:04] <AleXC_> bsdfox: how can I make that default?
[11:04] <Jhair> johannes__: every distribution has its own system for upgrades and Debian (Ubuntu) system is far more robust than the others.
[11:04] <Jhair> johannes__: apt-get has been for much more time than Ubuntu
[11:04] <goodi_> If I try to mount a reiser4 fs. I always get a wrong fs type ... any suggesstions? (its a new device just created with mkfs.reiser4 )
[11:04] <WebLOCH> Jhair, you say that but many have integrated apt-get :P
[11:05] <bsdfox> dunno
[11:05] <Jhair> WebLOCH: I know apt-get has been ported to work with RPM, but does any official distribution use it as default package manager?
[11:05] <WebLOCH> Jhair Scientific Linux appears to
[11:05] <Kavok> Oh. My. God. Why can't I install java on firefox? :\
[11:05] <bsdfox> edit the command line?
[11:05] <WebLOCH> Jhair, and im sure ive seen others
[11:05] <neuron> hey
[11:05] <bsdfox> Kavok, 64-bit?
[11:06] <Kavok> No
[11:06] <Kavok> Intel, 32bit
[11:06] <goodi_> and I get  a "ReiserFS: dm-28: warning: sh-2021: reiserfs_fill_super: can not find reiserfs on dm-28
[11:06] <goodi_> " in syslog. - but mkfs.reise4 /dev/vg/test worked without errors
[11:06] <neuron> why doesnt ntfsprogs install ntfsmount? i installed it with synaptic
[11:06] <FoxHound01> Best IRC client for Linux?
[11:06] <FoxHound01> any recomendations?
[11:06] <Kavok> I've been googling for how to install java on firefox, none of the instructions seem to work
[11:06] <|{tonyyarusso> FoxHound01: I use irssi.  It's cli, but I find that better for certain purposes.
[11:07] <WebLOCH> why is it all of the filesharing protocols (Samba/NFS) are useless by comparison to SCP
[11:07] <bsdfox> Jhair, emerge/portage are pretty robust imo
[11:07] <goodi_> what's the kernel module name for reiserfs4?
[11:07] <johannes__> FoxHound01: kopete is handy; Xchat fine too, didnt like Konversation to much
[11:07] <Jhair> FoxHound01: there is no best IRC client, I use ERC (the Emacs ERC client) and I am happy with it
[11:07] <Madpilot> FoxHound01, XChat
[11:07] <WebLOCH> Jhair, theres pacman too in Arch
[11:07] <Jhair> WebLOCH: uh? pacman? I don't get it
[11:07] <WebLOCH> Jhair,  its a package manager in Arch Linux
[11:07] <|{tonyyarusso> FoxHound01: My big reason is that I needed it up and running during things that involved restarting X.  For graphical things I like XChat.
[11:08] <roryy> erc is the One True IRC client
[11:08] <johannes__> Kavok: cant you use automatix for it? is this actually recommended to use?
[11:08] <|{tonyyarusso> Did you guys know XChat isn't included in Dapper now?
[11:08] <Jhair> WebLOCH: ohhh so many new distributions, you already mentioned two that are new to me Arch and Scientific Linux :)
[11:08] <WebLOCH> Scientific Linux is a shambles :P
[11:08] <neuron> FoxHound01, there is no best irc client, i suggest trying the top rate irc clients, and choose the one you realy like
[11:08] <will-h> top votes for irssi and xchat here :)
[11:09] <neuron> why doesnt ntfsprogs install ntfsmount? i installed it with synaptic
[11:09] <FoxHound01> i just got xchat, setting it up now
[11:09] <johannes__> why do most ppl not use kopete even though it has most features of xchat etc?
[11:09] <johannes__> is it because it looks so "comfortable"?
[11:09] <Kavok> johannes__: I've not found "automatix" in my googling, I guess im going to have to go through and do it the hard way rather than using apt-get or synaptic
[11:09] <|{tonyyarusso> !automatix
[11:10] <ubotu> automatix is, like, unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[11:10] <dieman> note to self: do not lock scooter keys in scooter trunk
[11:10] <|{tonyyarusso> !easyubuntu
[11:10] <ubotu> easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu
[11:10] <dieman> only took 4 hours to fix that, too
[11:10] <FoxHound01> ouch
[11:10] <johannes__> 11:09
[11:10] <johannes__>  johannes__: I've not found "automatix" in my googling, I guess im going to have to go through and do it the hard way rather than using apt-get or synaptic
[11:10] <roryy> dieman: just boot your scooter in recover mode ;)
[11:10] <dieman> hahah
[11:11] <dieman> i paid the locksmith good
[11:11] <Jhair> bsdfox: I've heard also about the robustness of Gentoo emerge. Haven't tried myself though, and don't want to spend hours compiling the X server from scratch :)
[11:11] <dieman> we ended up prying up the seat enough (plastic base) to reach en
[11:11] <dieman> in
[11:11] <dieman> and move crap around
[11:11] <dieman> until we were able to reach them
[11:11] <dieman> guy was a total latent geek too, had only been locksmithing for a few months
[11:11] <dieman> was surprised that i got along with him ok
[11:11] <Madpilot> roryy & dieman - #ubuntu-offtopic, please
[11:11] <dieman> and didn't mind a small lesson in lockpicking
[11:11] <dieman> ahh
[11:11] <dieman> didn't know we had an offtopic now
[11:12] <Kavok> Even the "guide" that ubotu links you to doesnt work :\
[11:12] <johannes__> 11:09
[11:12] <johannes__> /msg Kavok its included in 5.10 and in the ubuntuforums.org there is a good how to; for me it worked , you know but the guys and the bot do not like it,well probabyl they are right
[11:12] <|{tonyyarusso> !ubuntuguide
[11:12] <ubotu> hmm... ubuntuguide is out of date, reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead
[11:12] <|{tonyyarusso> Kavok: Have you tried the Wiki?  That's more current information.
[11:12] <Kavok> 5.10? Im using breezy, and java wasnt installed
[11:12] <Kavok> E: Couldn't find package java-package
[11:12] <Kavok> URL tony?
[11:12] <Madpilot> !info java-package
[11:12] <ubotu> java-package: (utility for building Java(TM) 2 related Debian packages), section multiverse/misc, is optional. Version: 0.26 (breezy), Packaged size: 20 kB, Installed size: 308 kB
[11:13] <Kavok> I've found like 4 different ways to -not- install java
[11:13] <|{tonyyarusso> Kavok: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ and search for Java.
[11:13] <Madpilot> Kavok, you need to enable the Universe & Multiverse repos, probably
[11:13] <Kavok> madpilot: I -have-.
[11:13] <Kavok> :\
[11:13] <|{tonyyarusso> Kavok: I I believe you want a different package.
[11:13] <|{tonyyarusso> !info j2re1.4
[11:13] <ubotu> j2re1.4: (Blackdown Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition), section multiverse/devel, is optional. Version: 1.4.2.02-1ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 21982 kB, Installed size: 58892 kB
[11:13] <Madpilot> Kavok, and run Reload/apt-get update after?
[11:13] <johannes__> no i meant automatix:
[11:14] <johannes__> but you heard shouldt use the bot said so..
[11:14] <Kavok> Madpilot: I don't know what Reload is but I can apt-get
[11:14] <Kavok> apt-get update*
[11:14] <|{tonyyarusso> Kavok: Like the info before said, java-package is for building packages, not making java work.
[11:15] <bsdfox> Jhair, Xorg 6.9 compiles in like 15 minutes on my 2ghz laptop..
[11:15] <johannes__>  has anybody experience with buying a subnote book for library and using it with external tft screen and usb keybord at home? is this recommendable?
[11:15] <bsdfox> I did it this morning
[11:15] <Madpilot> Kavok, sudo apt-get update, then, if you're using the command line rather than Synaptic
[11:15] <|{tonyyarusso> Kavok: I take back the searching bit.  Java is included on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[11:15] <Kavok> Madpilot: Done, but I've done it before.
[11:17] <fwed> hi, someone can help me to install wine under amd64, i've some problem ...
[11:17] <Madpilot> Kavok, check the URL tony just posted - but if you aren't finding java-package, your sources.list might be messed up
[11:18] <WebLOCH> Madpilot, Kavok, have you checked you have the multiverse repos added?
[11:18] <Madpilot> fwed, I'm not sure Wine will run on 64-bit OSes
[11:19] <Kavok> Apparently I had to type in the word multiverse to each entry
[11:19] <Kavok> Let me see if thats what the problem was
[11:19] <WebLOCH> Kavok yeah you need to for about 3 of the repos
[11:19] <Madpilot> !repositories
[11:19] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[11:19] <FoxHound01> well so far xchat works great, ill keep using it unless i see a reason not too, thanks guys
[11:19] <WebLOCH> Kavok then do apt-get update   followed by   apt-cache search j2
[11:20] <fwed> Madpilot, i see some post where people have install wine under amd64 but i've some error (libXxf86dga.so.1 not found)
[11:20] <Madpilot> Kavok, see the 2nd URL in the line ubotu just posted ^^^
[11:20] <DBO> fwed, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=128739
[11:20] <Alexi5> hello
[11:21] <johannes__> how does ubotu work actually?
[11:21] <fwed> DBO, already see but i have the same problem (*.so not found ...)
[11:21] <WebLOCH> johannes__, its a custom client, that listens to  the information being sent and respons accordingly
[11:21] <Madpilot> johannes__, voodoo :P
[11:21] <johannes__>  (6)
[11:21] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell johannes__ about yourself
[11:22] <fwed> DBO, i copy libXxf86dga.so.1 in /lib32, run ldconfig but it's the same for me
[11:22] <DBO> meh, I dont know how to help you then, I run 32bit
[11:22] <johannes__> cool that shit really works
[11:22] <johannes__> he is like a man now
[11:22] <fwed> dbO> i will install the 32bits version ..... ^^
[11:23] <WebLOCH> fwed, what processor do you have?
[11:23] <fwed> thanks a lot ;)
[11:23] <fwed> WebLOCH, athlon
[11:23] <WebLOCH> fwed does it support dual core?  or is it purely  64bit ?
[11:23] <Kolan> !easysource
[11:23] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[11:23] <fwed> WebLOCH, hum ... i don't know ...
[11:24] <Kavok> Atleast thats fixed :-)
[11:24] <Kavok> Now my mom can play web games :p
[11:24] <WebLOCH> fwed you should find out, because you can run it in 2x 32bit mode if it supports dual core, in which case you can use all the normal packages that work haha
[11:24] <fwed> WebLOCH, for that, do i install the ubuntu 32bits ? or my install i good in 64 ?
[11:25] <DBO> fwed, dont do it on account :-P
[11:25] <doniv> hi guys... need some help with my display resolution
[11:25] <doniv> i'm trying to get it set to 1280x1024
[11:25] <WebLOCH> fwed, I usually start with breezy 32bit, and then i download the 686-smp kernel, in your case you'd need to know which kernel you need
[11:25] <johannes__> are the >< for the factoid search necessary?
[11:25] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell doniv about fixres
[11:26] <fwed> WebLOCH, ok i will look that ! :)
[11:26] <fwed> Thank for your help ! :) );
[11:26] <Kavok> I couldn't even get Ubuntu to install onto my laptop
[11:26] <gnomefreak> doniv: in your pm
[11:26] <WebLOCH> fwed,  good luck
[11:26] <fwed> :)
[11:26] <Kavok> The debian installed freezes on the old lappy :p
[11:26] <Kavok> installer*
[11:26] <doniv> i've read that :)
[11:27] <gnomefreak> doniv: if you read that and did what it said than i would make sure your video card and or moniter supports that res. (what video card?)
[11:29] <mthakur> how do u install a software that u have downloaded off the net e.g. flash 4 linux?
[11:29] <doniv> gnomefreak, its a geforce
[11:29] <doniv> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11754
[11:29] <Apostle^> mthakur: what format is it in .deb ?
[11:29] <mthakur> nah its .tar.bz2
[11:29] <gnomefreak> !flash
[11:29] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[11:29] <Apostle^> mthakur: thats source, first you need build essential, sudo apt-get install build-essential checkinstall
[11:30] <mthakur> then?
[11:30] <gnomefreak> if you read the link above no compile needed
[11:30] <doniv> when i open preferences->Screen Resolution it doesnt show me 1280x1024
[11:30] <Apostle^> mthakur: you need to extract the source from the tar.bz2 and in the dir run ./configure && make && sudo checkinstall
[11:30] <Apostle^> mthakur: but it's easier just to see if it's in the repo's ...
[11:31] <WebLOCH> mthakur, do macromedia make a linux version of flash?
[11:31] <mthakur> i don't know
[11:31] <gnomefreak> !flash
[11:31] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[11:31] <WebLOCH> mthakur, i dont believe they do
[11:31] <doniv> WebLOCH, atleast they do a plugin
[11:31] <gnomefreak> ^^^^^ yes
[11:31] <WebLOCH> doniv, yeah sorrt i was thinking about Flash not Flash Player
[11:32] <johannes__> when will one be able to ugrade to dapper via dist-upgrade?
[11:32] <sfar> johannes__: you can do that now if you want
[11:32] <gnomefreak> johannes__: i would wait till june 1 when its released
[11:32] <Madpilot> johannes__, you could do it now, if you want the excitement of a testing release...
[11:32] <sfar> just replace "breezy" with "dapper" in sources.list (note that dapper is still BETA)
[11:32] <WebLOCH> is that when ist getting released now?
[11:32] <gnomefreak> WebLOCH: june 1
[11:33] <doniv> gnomefreak, did you get to look at the pastebin?
[11:33] <gnomefreak> 6.06
[11:33] <WebLOCH> gnomefreak, man, thats aaaaaages
[11:33] <mthakur> thanks mate
[11:33] <gnomefreak> doniv: yes and you should beable to just choose that res from the system>prefference>screen res
[11:33] <johannes__> well if it has flaws now could i do another dist-upgrade in 1 june
[11:33] <johannes__> and all would be fixed?
[11:33] <doniv> gnomefreak, thats whats not happening :(
[11:33] <WebLOCH> Is dapper actually usable ?
[11:34] <Madpilot> johannes__, if you switch to Dapper now, you'll be kept current as the development moves
[11:34] <doniv> it doesnt even show the res
[11:34] <cyh>  hello, when i resize my window in mplayer the movie doesn't resize
[11:34] <cyh> , i have mplayer-586 on ubuntu 5.10 from multiverse
[11:34] <Madpilot> WebLOCH, I've tried the Flight5 & Flight6 LiveCDs, they were very stable & usable - haven't touched the install, though
[11:34] <johannes__> how much mb is the dapper ugrade to doenload?
[11:34] <WebLOCH> cyh, you need to edit the mplayer config file, you need to change the video driver
[11:35] <WebLOCH> cyh, "sudo gedit /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf"
[11:35] <cyh> WebLOCH, do you happen to know the name of the paramter that needs to be set
[11:35] <gnomefreak> doniv: do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and make sure you read the part on res. i cant remember if it says check the ones you dont want to use or check the one you want to use and make sure the one you want is either checked or not checked depending on what it says
[11:35] <WebLOCH> cyh ... then tell me what vo=
[11:35] <doniv> gnomefreak, its basically "check the ones you want to use"
[11:35] <Madpilot> johannes__, probably fairly large - a dist-upgrade replaces most of your system, after all
[11:36] <cyh> WebLOCH, vo=x11
[11:36] <mthakur> how do u compile from a source code
[11:36] <gnomefreak> doniv: and its checked?
[11:36] <Jhair> johannes__: after adjusting your /etc/apt/sources.list you can do a apt-get -us dist-upgrade to simulate an upgrade: it reports how much data will be downloaded
[11:36] <WebLOCH> cyh, okay i set it to xv   but there are other  options that may be better for you
[11:36] <doniv> yep
[11:36] <gnomefreak> mthakur: why cant you get it from repos?
[11:36] <mthakur> its not in there
[11:36] <gnomefreak> !flash
[11:36] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[11:37] <gnomefreak> ^^^ mthakur
[11:37] <MenZa> ubotu, seen kingant
[11:37] <ubotu> MenZa: i haven't seen 'kingant'
[11:37] <mthakur> i mean flash maker not plugin
[11:37] <cyh> WebLOCH, works great thanks alot!
[11:37] <drelch> hi
[11:37] <WebLOCH> cyh, no problem, tell your friends mplayer rocks.
[11:38] <johannes__> Madpilot: so in my sources list i should exchange evry single breezy badger with dapper drake right via an editor?
[11:38] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell mthakur about compile
[11:38] <drelch> little question: do you know a tool to open *.wps files?
[11:38] <doniv> gnomefreak, any clue if the geforce2 supports this res in the first place?
[11:38] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell mthakur -about tar
[11:38] <cyh> WebLOCH, hehe, ya!
[11:38] <WebLOCH> doniv, what resolution ?
[11:38] <gnomefreak> doniv: it should my fx 5200 does
[11:38] <doniv> the fx 5200 came much later
[11:38] <Madpilot> johannes__, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 <-- official Dapper sources.list
[11:38] <doniv> WebLOCH, 1280x1024
[11:39] <WebLOCH> doniv, yes it should do, i used to have one
[11:39] <WebLOCH> doniv, my dad still has it now, i can check if you can wiat 4 hours
[11:39] <neuron> how can i install ntfsmount ?
[11:39] <doniv> :)
[11:39] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell neuron -about ntfs
[11:39] <erez> Madpilot: heh, thanks i was just looking for something like that..
[11:39] <doniv> anyways, i've reconfigured x
[11:39] <doniv> and will try and restart gdm
[11:39] <mthakur> gnomefreak, can u help me
[11:39] <erez> Madpilot: the sources.list ..
[11:39] <teclo> Hello, I get this: /bin/sh: strip: command not found     ... what do I need to install ?
[11:40] <doniv> but another problem is
[11:40] <Madpilot> erez, cool
[11:40] <cyh> teclo, sh
[11:40] <doniv> gdm doesnt restart on CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE
[11:40] <WebLOCH> doniv, ive found you osmetimes need to manually edit the config and restart gdm, in some cases however you need to alter the refresh freqs
[11:40] <cyh> teclo, but you should have sh
[11:40] <drelch> little question: do you know a tool to open *.wps files?  so i mean Microsoft Works files
[11:40] <WebLOCH> doniv, you know about virtual terms?
[11:40] <cyh> teclo,  thats the most basic shell
[11:40] <doniv> not much
[11:40] <doniv> just shifted to ubuntu from win2k3
[11:40] <gnomefreak> mthakur: i might beable to but ive never compiled that app before so you will have to read the readme or install file after you unpack it  but ill be here if you get stuck
[11:41] <doniv> but been using linux on and off
[11:41] <mthakur> ok thanks.
[11:41] <johannes__> Madpilot :thx all or from line 11 without the novel quotation?
[11:41] <WebLOCH> doniv, well once linux loads, it forks (it would seem) into 7 virtual terminals, represented by CTRL +ALT +Fx  where x = 1 to 7,  in the 7th instance you have the GDM etc running
[11:41] <teclo> cyh: thank you
[11:41] <doniv> yep
[11:41] <neuron> gnomefreak, i want read-write permisions
[11:41] <doniv> i know that
[11:41] <anto9us> drelch, if you find one, let me know, I usually recommend they save from Works in Word format
[11:41] <WebLOCH> doniv, if you hit CTRL+ALT+F1 you can restart gdm from the terminal
[11:41] <teclo> cyh: but there is no package called sh
[11:41] <doniv> yep
[11:41] <gnomefreak> neuron: ntfs is not safe to write on
[11:41] <WebLOCH> doniv, ahh sorry haha
[11:41] <mantono> Is there a way to set userflags in Ubuntu?
[11:41] <Madpilot> johannes__, what?
[11:41] <doniv> i tried sudo and started gdm
[11:41] <doniv> but then it froze :)
[11:42] <doniv> had to do a rest
[11:42] <WebLOCH> doniv  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[11:42] <doniv> reset
[11:42] <neuron> gnomefreak, i dont care...
[11:42] <cyh> telco, what does "which sh" return?
[11:42] <gnomefreak> neuron: than do what the wiki says
[11:42] <doniv> WebLOCH, let me try and restart gdm now
[11:42] <neuron> gnomefreak, then how can i convert a ntfs partition to a ext3 ?
[11:42] <Jhair> mantono: userflags? what's that
[11:42] <WebLOCH> doniv okay
[11:42] <johannes__> Madpilot : i meant this:  "I was beginning to think the old man was a few pennies short of a
[11:42] <johannes__>  #  dime when in the distance, much like thunder, I heard a 'quack'. I
[11:42] <johannes__>  #  have heard mighty dragons roar in fury and anger in the heat of
[11:42] <johannes__>  #  battle, but nothing was equal to the earth shaking rumblings of this
[11:42] <johannes__>  #  'quack'."
[11:42] <johannes__>  #
[11:42] <johannes__>  #    -- Jason Frieling, "Of Dragons and Ducks"
[11:42] <Jhair> ouch
[11:42] <gnomefreak> johannes__: no pasting please
[11:42] <Madpilot> johannes__, careful with pasting, thanks
[11:42] <johannes__> sorry
[11:42] <neuron> ubotu tell johannes__ -about pastebin
[11:43] <mthakur> gnomefreak, there is no readme
[11:43] <teclo> which sh returns /bin/sh
[11:43] <cyh> teclo, is did you get this script off the net from someone because if you use FreeBSD like i normaly do there will often be a space in the first line of the script "#! /bin/sh" --> "#!/bin/sh"
[11:43] <neuron> :P
[11:43] <gnomefreak> johannes__: thats the start of dappers sources.list file
[11:43] <mantono> Jhair: Defining useflags can give you support for example more formats while compiling a package
[11:43] <gnomefreak> teclo: either ./script.sh or sh script.sh
[11:43] <Madpilot> johannes__, anything that starts with # is just a comment, you can include it in your sources.list or not
[11:44] <johannes__> ok
[11:44] <Madpilot> johannes__, including that odd quotation :P
[11:44] <cyh> teclo, yes "sh script" will work but i wouldn't be suprised if there was the space problem
[11:44] <mantono> Jhair: If I for example compile audacity with the useflag "ogg", then I might add ogg-support to my audacity package.
[11:44] <doniv> WebLOCH, no luck
[11:44] <Jhair> mantono: compiler flags? When compiling C programs you can do, e.g.: CFLAGS=-g -O0" gcc ...
[11:44] <doniv> still stuck with 1024
[11:44] <roryy> mantono: are you perhaps thinking of gentoo?
[11:44] <doniv> xorg.conf shows all the res'
[11:44] <Jhair> I meant CFLAGS="-g O0" for example
[11:44] <neuron> gnomefreak, wiki says "*At this time, NTFS may only be mounted read-only by the kernel. This means information may be read, but no information may be written."
[11:45] <mantono> Jhair: that's cflags
[11:45] <Ishit> hi, any one on dapper?
[11:45] <WebLOCH> doniv, well then your options are to play with the refresh rates, or possibly download the latest drivers and install them from binaries
[11:45] <roryy> mantono: i'm not sure ubuntu/debian support that concept
[11:45] <Ishit> i want some help with installing xgl
[11:45] <doniv> i've installed the nvidia drivers
[11:45] <Jhair> mantono: then I don't know what useflags are sorry
[11:45] <roryy> !tell Ishit about xgl
[11:45] <mantono> roryy: I know it exists in Gentoo, that's why I ask if it workd in Ubuntu as well.
[11:45] <WebLOCH> doniv, from apt?  or from site?
[11:45] <gnomefreak> Ishit: please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with xgl
[11:45] <Madpilot> Ishit, try #ubuntu+1 for Dapper questions
[11:45] <mantono> roryy: okey, thank you
[11:45] <doniv> from apt
[11:45] <Ishit> sorry and thanks guys
[11:46] <johannes__> how could i find which channels are on which server without trying to connect to all servers and getting their channel list?
[11:46] <doniv> nvidia-glx
[11:46] <WebLOCH> doniv, i mean from the site, for example, the apt drivers for my card dont support HD res, but my card does, so i had to insatll from the website
[11:46] <cyh> johannes__, you mean in IRC? Try searchirc.com
[11:46] <doniv> oh ok
[11:46] <johannes__> cyh: yes thanks
[11:48] <CoffeeBreaks_> Does someone have a link to the various GNome performance improvements made into 2.14? I remember a particular blog where the various the bottlenecks were identified thanks to a serie of tools.
[11:48] <doniv> lemme tinker around some more... thanks for the help
[11:48] <WebLOCH> doniv, good luck
[11:49] <doniv> WebLOCH, whats the equivalent for /etc/rc.local ?
[11:49] <doniv> i need to put path and aliases
[11:49] <WebLOCH> doniv, i usually use /etc/bash.bashrc
[11:49] <doniv> ok
[11:49] <doniv> and what abt aliases for gterm?
[11:49] <Pupeno> Hello.
[11:49] <Pupeno> Is there any reason why Ubuntu includes Firefox instead of Galleon ?
[11:49] <WebLOCH> doniv,  a qiuck example ... export JAVA_HOME=/usr/lib/j2se/1.4/
[11:50] <WebLOCH> gnome-terminal ?
[11:50] <doniv> yea
[11:50] <doniv> like... ll
[11:50] <doniv> it works for bash
[11:50] <doniv> but not for gterm
[11:50] <CoffeeBreaks_> Pupeno you mean epiphany right?
[11:50] <WebLOCH> doniv, i don't know what you mean haha :S sorry
[11:50] <doniv> :)
[11:50] <gnomefreak> Pupeno: FF is installed by default you can still get galleon from repos
[11:50] <doniv> ll is an alias for ls -l
[11:50] <neuron> how can i free up some space?
[11:50] <doniv> standard with bash
[11:50] <johannes__> guys: how can i get my pop pawords in  kontact get stored in kde wallet?
[11:50] <gnomefreak> neuron: sudo apt-get clean  or  sudo apt-get autoclean
[11:50] <johannes__> there is no option: store..
[11:51] <WebLOCH> doniv, if you can call gnome-terminal instead, why not just use that?
[11:51] <erez> CoffeeBreaks_: http://www.gnome.org/~davyd/gnome-2-14/  is that what you are looking for?
[11:51] <doniv> yea, i'm talking abt gnome terminal only
[11:51] <kleines> hi
[11:51] <CoffeeBreaks_> erez: no this one is too high level. There was one guy who had more low level things, in several installments
[11:51] <kleines> wie gehtd
[11:51] <warpforge> Johannes, btw, there's a German-language forum
[11:51] <doniv> is there a startup script for that
[11:51] <doniv> like bashrc
[11:52] <warpforge> I mean channel
[11:52] <kleines> how are you??
[11:52] <kleines> ih
[11:52] <kleines> ops hi
[11:52] <manji> hey so does anyone use a good apt repository that houses mplayer?
[11:52] <warpforge> Johannes, you can't. Wallet takes an API
[11:52] <Jhair> manji: multiverse?
[11:53] <warpforge> Johannes, the app would have to support it
[11:53] <manji> Jhair: i have multiverse, but i cant find mplayer
[11:53] <warpforge> manji, do you have universe?
[11:53] <manji> warpforge: yeah, do you have it in universe?
[11:53] <Madpilot> manji, use Synaptic's search button
[11:54] <manji> Madpilot: its not there
[11:54] <Jhair> manji: strange: Filename: pool/multiverse/m/mplayer/mplayer_1.0-pre7cvs20050716-0.1ubuntu9_amd64.deb
[11:54] <neuron> have any of you installd captive?
[11:54] <doniv> WebLOCH, bashrc did the trick for the vars
[11:54] <Madpilot> manji, try searching packages.ubuntu.com - there really are mplayer packages for Ubuntu
[11:55] <doniv> now i can use ll in gterm as well :)
[11:55] <neuron> is there any way of converting a ntfs partition to fat32?
[11:55] <warpforge> neuron: no
[11:55] <vasilis> hi....has anyone installed the ubuntu-live-support utility?
[11:56] <johannes__> does someone know i would assign to e.g. kontact a behaviour that eg it always starts on screen 4 ?
[11:56] <neuron> then, how can i modify files on a ntfs filesytem?
[11:56] <stamen81> hello dudes
[11:56] <vasilis> neuron: from linux its too dangerous
[11:56] <stamen81> my questuion today is for web developers
[11:56] <Madpilot> neuron, in Ubuntu, you can't
[11:57] <doniv> neuron, its not well supported
[11:57] <stamen81> is anybody here who is web developer
[11:57] <stamen81> and use bluefish
[11:57] <Madpilot> stamen81, if you just ask your question, you'll get better help...
[11:58] <stamen81> ok, help me :)
[11:58] <anto9us> !ask
[11:58] <ubotu> Just ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model, outputs of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl is important.
[11:58] <stamen81> I can't remember how to make the source code to be wrapped
[11:59] <stamen81> whe I am writing it
[11:59] <doniv> in what, stamen81?
[11:59] <gnomefreak> stamen81: iirc there is a menu item that would help you with that(do it for you even)
[11:59] <stamen81> in bluefish editor
[11:59] <gnomefreak> let me check
[11:59] <stamen81> where is that menu
[12:00] <stamen81> gnomefreak,  where is that menu
[12:00] <anto9us> stamen81, Document | Wrap
[12:00] <Madpilot> stamen81, Edit->Preferences, Editor tab, check the "Word Wrap default" box
[12:00] <ndazza> stamen81: please be patient
[12:00] <stamen81> ok:)
[12:00] <stamen81> ok, 10x verry much
[12:01] <antonio_> is it possible to install itunes?
[12:01] <gnomefreak> !ipod
[12:01] <ubotu> info for syncing your iPod is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPodHowto
[12:02] <antonio_> excellent...
[12:02] <vasilis> hi...i tried to install ubuntu live support utility but ./configure returned that it cant find install-sh or install.h although they were present in the directory, what am i doing wrong?
[12:03] <WebLOCH> anyone here ever tried re-installing macosx after installing ubuntu?  The macosx installer cant see the disk anymore :(
[12:03] <stram> does ubuntu come with some type of GUI tool to change the power settings/policy? you know, to set it to dim the screen when running on the battery and such
[12:03] <gnomefreak> vasilis: did you install build-essential?
[12:03] <shreevatsa> gnomefreak: Hey, thanks! I just won an iPod Nano yesterday, and didn't even think of asking here... was struggling all by myself
[12:04] <gnomefreak> lol shreevatsa there are alot of different apps you can use banshee is most like itunes but alot of people dont like it ;)
[12:04] <vasilis> gnomefreak: how do i do that?
[12:04] <gnomefreak> vasilis: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:05] <doniv> guys, whats the best svn gui client app for gnome?
[12:05] <gnomefreak> iirc build-essential has some header files it installs
[12:05] <vasilis> hmm i'll try
[12:05] <neuron> damn ntfs, damn M$
[12:05] <CraiZE> hey :D uhm i wanted to display the song i am currently playing in XMMS on ex-chat, anyone knows a plugin for that?
[12:06] <gnomefreak> CraiZE: ther eis one (here atleast) try apt-cache search xmms
[12:06] <gnomefreak> ^^^ CraiZE in terminal
[12:06] <gnomefreak> brb
[12:06] <CraiZE> ok
[12:06] <neuron> gnomefreak, is there a way of showing the song i`m playing in xmms in gaim?
[12:07] <vasilis> gnomefreak: yeah they were already installed....the build-essential that is
[12:08] <grum> whats the default root password for ubuntu when first installed
[12:08] <domas> hi! I'm experiencing network stalls on 5.10, running in Parallels VM
[12:08] <ndazza> !root
[12:08] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[12:08] <doniv> grum, its random
[12:09] <WebLOCH> is it possible to format a disk from a livecd?
[12:09] <Trunkz> wuu
[12:09] <Trunkz> Installing ubuntu on the laptop today :D
[12:09] <domas> did anyone run Ubuntu on parallels?
[12:09] <MenZa> Trunkz: sweet :)
[12:09] <Apostle^> WebLOCH: yes
[12:09] <gnomefreak> grum: its you user password there is no root enabled
[12:09] <ndazza> WebLOCH: what do u want to format the disk as?
[12:09] <grum> ok sweet thx
[12:10] <WebLOCH> ndazza, well i wnt to reinstall macosx because im selling the laptop, but i cant do that becaus eits installer doesnt recognise the paritions i have and thus the disk
[12:10] <WebLOCH> ndazza, so i need to empty a partition to install to
[12:10] <josh__> Hi, I can't change my resolution
[12:10] <Trunkz> Menza, quick question. i810 driver works fine under ubuntu right (thats the dell inspirons stuff..)
[12:11] <gnomefreak> WebLOCH: there is a wiki on that if you give me a min ill get it for you
[12:11] <MenZa> Trunkz: I don't think I'm who you ought to turn to; I'm not really fantastic at Linux :)
[12:11] <Trunkz> ahh :D
[12:11] <ndazza> WebLOCH: try gparted (i dunno if it's on the ubuntu live cds by default)
[12:11] <Trunkz> okeh ;p
[12:11] <Trunkz> Last time I installed knoppix on that laptop
[12:11] <Trunkz> it had graphical problems ;p
[12:11] <WebLOCH> gnomefreak, ty
[12:11] <levander> Is there some way to "auto-download" all the dev packages you need when you are compiling a package?
[12:11] <WebLOCH> ndazza, not  sure, can i do it from command line?
[12:12] <josh__> How do I change my resolution if there is only 640 x 480 in the menu list?
[12:12] <WebLOCH> levander, yes, apt-get build-dep package
[12:12] <gnomefreak> WebLOCH: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot?highlight=%28yaboot%29
[12:12] <shreevatsa> josh__: Just installed?
[12:12] <josh__> yea
[12:12] <shreevatsa> josh__: I had this bug... I had to go edit my xorg.conf
[12:12] <senn1> hey all.
[12:12] <josh__> i know nothing about linux
[12:12] <josh__> so dont go throwing anything technical at me
[12:12] <shreevatsa> josh__: Yeah, just gimme a minute
[12:13] <shreevatsa> josh__: Sorry about that... I'll just tell you what to do (let me remember)
[12:13] <josh__> lol ok
[12:13] <ndazza> WebLOCH: maybe parted will do it
[12:13] <senn1> got a tough question for people in here
[12:13] <Apostle^> WebLOCH: you can use gparted
[12:13] <WebLOCH> Apostle^, from the live cd?
[12:13] <Apostle^> WebLOCH: yes
[12:14] <WebLOCH> Apostle^, awesome, ty
[12:14] <shreevatsa> josh__: what monitor do you have?
[12:14] <josh__> a philips
[12:14] <AleXC_> Hey
[12:14] <senn1> anyone know if theres a livecd remastering script for ubuntu that works like the mandriva one? with just a single comand
[12:14] <AleXC_> How can I get GTK2.4? I'm trying to install The Widget Factory - but it needs GTK 2.4
[12:14] <gnomefreak> !yaboot
[12:14] <ubotu> yaboot is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[12:14] <shreevatsa> josh__: There is something called the horizontal and vertical refresh rates... do you know what they are for your monitor?
[12:14] <WebLOCH> gnomefreak, ty for that im reading it thru now
[12:15] <Din> can be this fixed #1064 - You have an error in your SQL syntax. Check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near 'collate utf8_slovenian_ci NOT NULL default '',
[12:15] <Din> `admin_image`
[12:15] <gnomefreak> WebLOCH: i just aded it to bot wanted to see if it took
[12:15] <josh__> no i dont... windows had this cool feature... it just worked
[12:15] <yxfx> dir
[12:15] <shreevatsa> josh__: lol, ok. (But from my experience, windows had the feature that most things just didn't work)
[12:15] <josh__> not from what ive seen
[12:15] <shreevatsa> josh__: anyway, try this:
[12:15] <josh__> this pos caused me to loos all my data
[12:15] <josh__> im not happy atm
[12:16] <AleXC_> How do I get GTK 2.4?
[12:16] <senn1> ?
[12:16] <WebLOCH> !flight6
[12:16] <gnomefreak> it all depends on hardware if an os will work out of box (my ubuntu worked out of box)
[12:16] <ubotu> rumour has it, flight6 is http://www.ubuntu.com/testing
[12:16] <roryy> AleXC_: ubuntu comes with gtk 2.8. Perhaps you just need libgtk2.0-dev to compile your library
[12:16] <roryy> AleXC_: that is, ubuntu 5.10 comes with gtk 2.8
[12:17] <shreevatsa> josh__: Can you start a terminal?
[12:17] <josh__> yes
[12:17] <AleXC_> roryy: installing them now - hopefully it will work this time
[12:17] <shreevatsa> josh__: Ok, start it, and type "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf" (without the quotes)
[12:17] <vasilis> why a ./configure cannot find install sh
[12:17] <gnomefreak> vasilis: what are you trying to install?
[12:17] <vasilis> why a ./configure cannot find install-sh although they are in the same directory
[12:18] <doniv> has anyone tried installing esvn?
[12:18] <josh__> where in the conf file do i edit?
[12:18] <vasilis> gnomefreak: ubuntu live support ... wait to find the link
[12:18] <shreevatsa> josh__: Look for a place that says: Section "Monitor"
[12:18] <vasilis> gnomefreak: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuLiveChatSupport
[12:18] <josh__> it already has my monitor and everything set up
[12:19] <shreevatsa> josh__: No, but did you find that place?
[12:19] <josh__> yes, it does... it lists my monitor model number
[12:19] <shreevatsa> josh__: In that section, there should be lines saying HorizSync and VertRefresh... are they there?
[12:20] <josh__> i dont know its hard to see with this small ass shitty linux screen
[12:20] <shreevatsa> josh__: Lol, there should be a menu option somewhere to maximise the screen or font or whatever is small...
[12:20] <shreevatsa> josh__: Anyway, is there such a line *just* after the "Identfier" line?
[12:20] <Apostle^> AHHHH dapper where are you!
[12:20] <jean> Hi, i'm searching informations on how to get a recent version of ffmpeg
[12:21] <Trunkz> Gah
[12:21] <Trunkz> Damned ICS
[12:21] <gnomefreak> vasilis: what one are you trying to install the 1st or 2nd tar?
[12:21] <Trunkz> I still can never seem to get it to work x.x
[12:21] <Trunkz> Ubuntu might hate me now x.x
[12:21] <josh__> HorizSync not found
[12:21] <intuos_pen> hi, i've installed ndisgtk on my breezy, it was able to detect my wireless lan adapter and use the windows "sis 162" driver. but ubuntu's network configuration gui program can not detect a "wlan0" device, what's the next step?
[12:21] <josh__> it lists my monitor and all that good stuff
[12:21] <ndazza> Trunkz: try installing guidedog
[12:21] <Trunkz> guidedog?
[12:21] <ndazza> ics: internet connection sharing?
[12:21] <gnomefreak> guidedog or guarddog?
[12:21] <Trunkz> ya
[12:21] <neuron> gnomefreak, is there a way of showing the song i`m playing in xmms in gaim?
[12:22] <intuos_pen> intuos_pen: i hope i won't be tweaking on udev /dev entries.
[12:22] <ndazza> guidedog is a tool to help with that
[12:22] <gnomefreak> neuron: dont know
[12:22] <Trunkz> I wanna set up ICS on this machine, so that gnome can get a connection
[12:22] <neuron> gnomefreak, okay
[12:22] <shreevatsa> josh__: ok then, just below the Identifier line in Section "Monitor", type "HorizSync       30-70" (without quotes) in a new line
[12:22] <ndazza> gnomefreak: guidedog. guarddog is the firewall, they are written by the same author
[12:22] <vasilis> gnomefreak: emm....there is only one tar hosted there
[12:22] <Trunkz> I dont need a firewall :o
[12:22] <Din> hay where is cgi-bin if i installed mod_perl/2.0.1 Perl/v5.8.7
[12:22] <gnomefreak> ah ok
[12:22] <gnomefreak> vasilis: why i see 2?
[12:22] <Madpilot> neuron, just so you know - running a 'now playing' script in #ubuntu will get you kickbanned
[12:22] <shreevatsa> josh__: And in the next line, type "VertRefresh     50-160"
[12:22] <Din> someone know where is it?
[12:22] <vasilis> gnomefreak: dunno....drunk maybe ? :P
[12:22] <ndazza> Trunkz: is it the ubuntu machine that has the internet connection?
[12:22] <gnomefreak> nm read the first link wrong
[12:23] <Trunkz> nope
[12:23] <Trunkz> the windows machine
[12:23] <Trunkz> I'm installing ubuntu on the laptop
[12:23] <Jhair> Din: type locate cgi-bin in a terminal
[12:23] <Trunkz> Want the laptop to get a net connection off this xp box
[12:23] <josh__> ok, do i have to restart for this to take effect?
[12:23] <gnomefreak> ok vasilis im gonna do this with you i hope
[12:23] <ndazza> Trunkz: linux will use whatever router you point it to, including windows machines
[12:23] <bluey> does anyone know the best way to convert ogg to mp3 using lame? all i get is a really small outfile with static in it
[12:23] <intuos_pen> what must one do to make the system detect a "wlan0" device after ndiswrapper has used the windows driver and detected the wlan adapter?
[12:23] <neuron> Madpilot, i`m not planning to run a "now playing" in xchat, i want it for  gaim, yahoo specificaly
[12:24] <grum> how do i enable mp3 support in ubuntu 5.10
[12:24] <Trunkz> ndazza, nvm.. some guy just told me how to do it :D
[12:24] <Trunkz> Thanks ;)
[12:24] <ndazza> if you're playing with windows 98 ics, then good luck to you :D it's very fiddly and rarely works
[12:24] <Trunkz> I'll be on here
[12:24] <Madpilot> !tell grum about mp3
[12:24] <Din> um this mybe /usr/share/apache2/default-site/cgi-bin
[12:24] <Trunkz> as I'm sure i'll get some graphics problems
[12:24] <shreevatsa> josh__: er
[12:24] <gnomefreak> vasilis: did you get it extracted yet?
[12:24] <josh__> er?
[12:24] <shreevatsa> josh__: Sorry, I didn't notice that
[12:24] <josh__> wtf is er
[12:24] <shreevatsa> josh__: You have to, yes...
[12:24] <josh__> not to be rude
[12:24] <Madpilot> neuron, OK, just thought I'd give you a heads up
[12:24] <vasilis> gnomefreak: yeap
[12:24] <shreevatsa> josh__: Or you can just restart X
[12:24] <josh__> ive lost ALL my data!
[12:24] <josh__> thanks to this thing
[12:24] <Trunkz> Will ubuntu run happily on 256MB ram?
[12:24] <shreevatsa> josh__: Why?
[12:24] <josh__> and now this is my ONLY os
[12:24] <shreevatsa> josh__: What does resolution have to do with data?
[12:24] <neuron> Madpilot, thanks ;)
[12:24] <josh__> it doesnt
[12:24] <gnomefreak> vasilis: also can you please install checkinstall
[12:25] <josh__> its just one of the many problems with this pos
[12:25] <Madpilot> Trunkz, it'll run, but more would be better
[12:25] <WebLOCH> haha, things are bad, i need assistance restoring a mac to its former glory
[12:25] <WebLOCH> anyone able to help ?
[12:25] <Trunkz> Madpilot, I plan on upgrading to 512MB
[12:25] <Trunkz> Once I make sure Ubuntu runs happily on the laptop
[12:25] <Trunkz> :p
[12:25] <Trunkz> So far, I have my doubts.. as its had problems in the past
[12:26] <gnomefreak> vasilis: once its unpacked and your ready to continue please cd ubuntu <tab> that should put you install the file tar just made
[12:26] <vasilis> gnomefreak: checkinstall from apt-get?
[12:26] <gnomefreak> yes
[12:26] <vasilis> gnomefreak: ok done
[12:27] <gnomefreak> grrrrrrrr ok give me a min i have to do something before we can go on :( i have this feeling about this app
[12:27] <rungek> hi. anybody got skype work in ubuntu breezy? (it fails install as it depends on a package (libqt3c102-mt)
[12:27] <bimberi> !skype
[12:27] <ubotu> rumour has it, skype is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/
[12:28] <bimberi> rungek: see ^^^ to get a package that doesn't have that dependency issue
[12:28] <levander> Man, has anyone tried building php5 themselves?  I'm getting all kinds of warnings, although the build is continuing.
[12:28] <neuron> how can i see what ubuntu i`m running? breezy, dapper, etc
[12:29] <WebLOCH> anyone here know where i can go for mac advice?
[12:29] <bimberi> neuron: 'lsb_release -a'
[12:29] <ndazza> neuron: cat /etc/issue might work...
[12:29] <Madpilot> levander, PHP5 is in Breezy's repos, you know
[12:29] <gnomefreak> vasilis: cant install it it is broken i have this feeling they are not done with it
[12:29] <vasilis> gnomefreak: oh ok...sorry for the trouble
[12:30] <neuron> i`m running hoary, how can i update?
[12:30] <ndazza> levander: lots of software will give out warnings while compiling... it's not necessarily bad
[12:30] <levander> neuron: 'apt-get update && apt-get upgrade'
[12:30] <levander> ndazza: yeah, but for someone who doesn't compile much, it's not encouraging...
[12:30] <shreevatsa> levander: isn't dist-upgrade better?
[12:30] <Din> am will be there any soon mysql5 for ubuntu?
[12:31] <vasilis> gnomefreak: i just wanted learn how to properly install packages....so ./configure, make , make install should install it when its done right?
[12:31] <bimberi> !tell neuron about upgrade2breezy
[12:31] <levander> Din: look on packages.ubuntu.com and search in dapper
[12:31] <new_to_linux1> hello
[12:31] <neuron> thanks bimberi
[12:31] <Madpilot> Din, it'll be in Dapper in June, I think
[12:31] <bimberi> neuro_: yw :)
[12:31] <new_to_linux1> how i set the password for root ? i just install ubuntu :)
[12:31] <neuron> how can i free up some space? apt-get clean and auto-clean doesnt do anything
[12:32] <Madpilot> new_to_linux1, you don't - use sudo, and your own user pw
[12:32] <shreevatsa> neuron: You could just wait a couple of months and upgrade to Dapper directly :)
[12:32] <Xenguy> !upgrade
[12:32] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade.  Upgrading to dapper (remember it may break). Please test the dist-upgrader -> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html.
[12:32] <levander> new_to_linux1: oh boy, you know slashdot has an article about some book that was an introduction to Linux based on the Ubuntu distribution
[12:32] <Madpilot> !tell new_to_linux1 about sudo
[12:32] <new_to_linux1> ok
[12:32] <rungek> thans bimberi, i will look it up (second link seams to be what I need)
[12:32] <Killgore> sup fellow ubuntuers
[12:32] <Cin> Is there any way to reinstall ubuntu without a CD if I'm already on it?
[12:33] <Cin> I.e. get to the installation somehow?
[12:33] <bimberi> rungek: np :)  (best to use one of the mirrors btw)
[12:33] <Xenguy> Cin: why would you want/need to?
[12:33] <levander> Cin: don't think so, but not sure
[12:33] <Whoopie> Hi, I have a question regarding dapper and PAM: Why are we stuck with PAM 0.79? I ask this because I'd like to use pam_keyring and it needs PAM >= 0.99.
[12:33] <intuos_pen> is there any ubuntu specific tutorial on how to use wlan adapter under ndiswrapper?
[12:33] <levander> Xenguy: he wants to do a reinstall
[12:33] <Din> doesn't seem that anyone is working on it :(
[12:33] <levander> Xenguy: like you do in XP
[12:33] <Cin> Because a lot of things are crashing and I can't make any diagnosis to the problem because I don't know anything about Linux.
[12:33] <Killgore> i fixed my sound problems
[12:33] <gnomefreak> Whoopie: try #ubuntu+1 for dapper issues
[12:33] <Xenguy> levander: yes, but what is the reason?
[12:33] <levander> Din: can post something on ubuntuforums.org if you want
[12:33] <Killgore> there is a switch in alsa to enable tone controls, so thats y i wasnt getting any bass
[12:34] <levander> Xenguy: he's probably just used to XP, probably doesn't have a good reason
[12:34] <Whoopie> gnomefreak: ok, thanks.
[12:34] <Xenguy> levander: (I don't use XP)
[12:34] <Xenguy> levander: why don't you let him speak for himself :-)
[12:34] <levander> Xenguy: why do you want to go through the install process?
[12:34] <levander> again
[12:34] <levander> or, I meant the guy who originally asked
[12:34] <Xenguy> levander: are you on (bad) drugs?
[12:35] <levander> yes
[12:35] <Din> levander under what forum, which section
[12:35] <Xenguy> hehe
[12:35] <Cin> I stated above.
[12:35] <vasilis> does anyone know how to build a boot floppy for breezy?
[12:35] <levander> Din: just look at the forum names and make an educated guess
[12:35] <Killgore> use the live-cd
[12:35] <new_to_linux1> done
[12:35] <Killgore> Din: what are the problesm you are having?
[12:35] <Killgore> Cin: lol sorry
[12:35] <new_to_linux1> !easyubuntu
[12:35] <ubotu> easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu
[12:35] <Din> io would like to have my sql 5
[12:36] <Din> it is much faster
[12:36] <Xenguy> ahh, 'stuff is crashing'; sounds like something went wrong then
[12:36] <Din> but cannot be installed by ubuntu
[12:36] <Cin> I'm pretty sure it's X in general. A lot of programs are failing to start, amarok seems to crash a lot, and now crashes X when I open the library.
[12:36] <Killgore> Din: are you using postgreSQL?
[12:36] <Din> no mysql 4
[12:36] <Din> MySQL - 4.0.24_Debian-10ubuntu2-log
[12:36] <Cin> I assume it's X that crashes because my mouse still works but nothing else does (Ctrl + Alt + Backspc does nothing).
[12:36] <levander> Din: mysql 4.1 should be plenty fast enough for you, you won't see any performance benefit except on servers serving a *lot* of people, like thousands of people
[12:36] <Killgore> Cin: how long have you had it installed? ie if its a new install then there might be installation issues
[12:37] <levander> Din: there's also mysql-4.1
[12:37] <Xenguy> !tell Cin about xorg
[12:37] <Cin> Killgore, yeah I installed like yesterday and haven't rebooted since (until the crashes of course)
[12:37] <Din> then why i get #1064 - You have an error in your SQL syntax. Check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near 'collate utf8_slovenian_ci NOT NULL default '',
[12:37] <Din> `admin_image`
[12:37] <Xenguy> Cin: not sure if that will help at all
[12:37] <Killgore> levander: I used postgreSQl and its not bad once you get used to it
[12:37] <zegnus> hi at all !
[12:37] <zegnus> My dvd is mounted at /media/cdrom0 but when I insert a dvd film, totem says that cannot play dvd:////media/cdrom0 and libdvdcss2 is instaled, any idea ?
[12:37] <Din> i was using before mysql 5
[12:37] <levander> Killgore: no, postgreSQl is a find dbms
[12:38] <vasilis> does anyone know how to build a boot floppy for breezy?
[12:38] <prxq> my laptop screen blanks every so-and-so minutes. Is there a way to disable that via the command line?
[12:38] <Killgore> levander: you mean "fine" i assume
[12:38] <Cin> Xenguy, I admit I've edited my xorg.conf but never actually ran the configuration program. I'll try that.
[12:38] <levander> vasilis: i don't think you can make boot floppies any more, it's like the kernel is too big or something
[12:38] <Killgore> prxq: it will be your power settings
[12:38] <levander> vasilis: check the 'mkboot' command though, think that's what it's called
[12:39] <levander> Killgore: yeah, meant fine
[12:39] <Killgore> prxq: like power saving mode will turn the screen off. Or are you using it when it blanks
[12:39] <neuron> i installed ubuntu and then the kde desktop, no i`m trying to update to breezyand synaptic wants to uninstall kde, why is that?
[12:39] <Killgore> neuron: probably because it wants to update all files that need updating
[12:39] <levander> neuron: maybe it wants to install gnome that conflicts with kde? that's a guess.  gnome is the default ubuntu desktop
[12:40] <Killgore> does anyone here use rythmbox rather than another player?
[12:40] <neuron> ehhh, it seems i need to install kde again
[12:41] <neuron> soo.. is theer any way of freeing some space
[12:41] <neuron> ?
[12:41] <levander> neuron: 'df -h' tells you how much space you got left
[12:41] <Killgore> neuron: did you mention that space was an issue?
[12:41] <levander> neuron: how much space you got left?
[12:42] <neuron> levander, i kknew how i can check my free space, well. i only have 2.5gigs free, out of 10
[12:42] <levander> neuron: i ran on a 4GB partition for a long time
[12:42] <levander> neuron: that should be plenty...
[12:42] <gnomefreak> vasilis: that prject isnt finished i have it in my dapper menu and that doesnt work yet either
[12:42] <neuron> okay
[12:42] <Xenguy> neuron: 'filelight' is a nice X prog for finding you 'big' files, if you want heavy artillery
[12:43] <Killgore> neuron: check too see how much space is taken up by /var/cache/apt/archives
[12:43] <Apostle^> neuron: baobab is nice also.
[12:43] <levander> neuron: i think when you use synaptic to install packages, it first tells you how much space is required before it installs the package
[12:43] <levander> neuron: i know apt-get does that
[12:43] <Cin> Should I use the kernel framebuffer device interface?
[12:43] <Cin> >.>
[12:43] <Apostle^> Cin: no
[12:43] <Cin> Okay.
[12:43] <neuron> levander, yes it does, thans not the problem, i dont want ubuntu tu ron out of space :D
[12:43] <Killgore> neuron: du -hc /var/cache/apt/archives
[12:44] <levander> neuron: there's parted to resize partitions, or you can uninstall packages you're not using
[12:44] <munzir> Hi, I am connecting to the internet through a router via an ethernet cable (eth1: 192.168.1.253) as well as a wireless connection (eth0: 192.168.1.64). How should I specify which connection is used when I browse a site?
[12:44] <MenZa> How do I set Thunderbird as my default mail-application?
[12:44] <levander> neuron: i've never used 7.5 GB with a Linux install before, you ahve a lot installed
[12:44] <neuron> okay, thanks
[12:44] <Din> why phpmyadmin at me doesn't work with php5, i just tried and get error of phpmyadmin check mysql,<br /> in php configuration
[12:44] <Killgore> munzir: u need to specify the default gateway
[12:45] <neuron> /dev/hda1             9.5G  6.8G  2.3G  76% /
[12:45] <Killgore> munzir: system -> admin -> networking
[12:45] <neuron> 6.5gb actualy
[12:45] <Apostle^> neuron: sudo tune2fs -m 0 /dev/hda1 will free up some space.
[12:45] <Cooleo> CaN i have some help installing wine?
[12:45] <levander> munzir: i don't think you can specify on a per site basis which connectino to use
[12:45] <gnomefreak> MenZa: system>prefferences>perfered apps
[12:45] <Cooleo> i get "Failed to write to pipe in copy" & "Subprocess paste returned error exit status 2" errors when trying to install
[12:45] <MenZa> Thank you, gnomefreak .
[12:45] <Killgore> munzir: change the default gateway device to eth0 or eth1
[12:46] <Cooleo> what do they mean?
[12:46] <Apostle^> munzir: if you want firefox to always use one connection you can set it up that way.
[12:46] <levander> munzir: the routing table will route all internet traffic through one connection or another
[12:46] <neuron> ntfs is realy annoying
[12:46] <levander> Din: umm, maybe you need php5-mysql installed???
[12:46] <neuron> but i just cant format it :(
[12:46] <munzir> Killgore: netstat -r shows default         speedtouch.lan  0.0.0.0         UG        0 0          0 eth1
[12:46] <munzir> default         speedtouch.lan  0.0.0.0         UG        0 0          0 eth0
[12:46] <Cooleo> Can someone help me?
[12:46] <WebLOCH> Im looking for a babysitter?
[12:46] <Killgore> neuron: only if u use it :P
[12:46] <Apostle^> Cooleo: whats the problem
[12:47] <munzir> Apostle^: how?
 i get "Failed to write to pipe in copy" & "Subprocess paste returned error exit status 2" errors when trying to install wine
[12:47] <Cooleo> What do they mean?>
[12:47] <neuron> Killgore, i had a ntfs filesystem on my xp system, and i have a lot of valuable data on it that i just cand afford to loose
[12:47] <neuron> a 65gb filssitem being read-only, imagine that
[12:47] <serge> Why do I get this error while trying to ./configure mysql? "checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[12:47] <serge> "
[12:47] <Apostle^> munzir: i was mistaken sorry.
[12:47] <prxq> Killgore: that worked. thanks.
[12:47] <Din> tnx
[12:47] <Apostle^> serge: sudo apt-get insall build-essential gcc
[12:47] <levander> you guys have no idea how expert you had to be to even try to install WINE five years ago
[12:48] <Killgore> prxq: too easy
[12:48] <Apostle^> neuron: linux doesn't write to ntfs (safely)
[12:48] <levander> neuron: you need to back that ntfs partition up, hard drives are designed to fail sooner or later
[12:48] <Killgore> levander: thank god for apt!
[12:48] <neuron> Apostle^, i dont realy care about safety
[12:48] <serge> ta Apostle^
[12:48] <Cooleo> Whats wrong with the installation ?
[12:48] <peter_> why would apt-file search and dpkg -S disagree about the contents of a package?
[12:48] <levander> Killgore: it's more than just apt
[12:48] <Apostle^> neuron: if you write to that partition it might become un recoverable.
[12:49] <Jhair> peter_: which is right?
[12:49] <peter_> Jhair: dpkg
[12:49] <Killgore> levander: is cedega better for games than wine? or does it go on a game-by-game basis
[12:49] <neuron> levander, my cdrw just gone poof
[12:49] <Jhair> peter_: which package?
[12:49] <Cooleo> *sigh*
[12:50] <serge> Apostle^, any idea why I also get this error? checking for termcap functions library... configure: error: No curses/termcap library found
[12:50] <Apostle^> serge: no idea on that one sorry.
[12:50] <serge> alright ta
[12:50] <munzir> Killgore:  in Networking it's set to eth1 but why then netstat -r shows both, please?
[12:50] <serge> Anyone else had that before and found a solution?
[12:50] <vasilis> the mkboot command couldnt make a bootable disk.......can i copy vmlinuz and initrd to a media and tell grub to boot them would it work?
[12:50] <peter_> I guess, more specifically, apt-file search fail to report the actual contents of the package (as displayed by dpkg -c after downloading it)
[12:50] <new_to_linux1> !mplayer
[12:50] <Apostle^> serge: you need ncurses
[12:50] <ubotu> rumour has it, mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[12:50] <peter_> Jhair: nvidia-glx in dapper restricted
[12:51] <Apostle^> serge: sudo apt-cache search ncurses get the -dev also
[12:51] <serge> Apostle^, I can just apt-get that righT?
[12:51] <Apostle^> serge: yes sir
[12:51] <serge> alright
[12:51] <serge> ta
[12:51] <Killgore> munzir: my netstat -r shows my gateway computer then the default connection (eth0)
[12:51] <neuron> ubotu, 2*2
[12:51] <ubotu> 4
[12:51] <neuron> ubotu, version
[12:51] <ubotu> To find out what ubuntu version you have type 'lsb_release -a' or 'cat /etc/issue' in a terminal.
[12:51] <neuron> heh
[12:51] <neuron> blootbot? :D
[12:52] <Killgore> ZOMG hes so smart
[12:52] <Killgore> ubotu, 4923987295867*2
[12:52] <ubotu> 9847974591734
[12:52] <Killgore> whoa
[12:52] <roryy> i hope system -> about ubuntu will more clearly show the version in dapper and future ubuntu releases
[12:52] <yabba> is here anyone who can tell me a bash command that shows all (active) users on my system?
[12:52] <Din> so does any other version of ubuntu have builded in mysql5
[12:52] <Cooleo> Is my wine file corrupt?
[12:52] <munzir> Killgore: so you don't have two default connections like me?
[12:52] <Killgore> yabba: users
[12:52] <eth42> is there a tool in ubuntu to test the quality of dvd media?
[12:52] <Apostle^> yabba: users lol
[12:52] <neuron> si breezy the latest ubuntu release?
[12:52] <neuron> is*
[12:52] <eth42> yabba: who?
[12:52] <yabba> killgore, Apostle^ : :( :D thank you
[12:52] <Apostle^> neuron: the latest stable yes
[12:53] <Killgore> munzir: ill but it in chan #flood
[12:53] <neuron> and whats the latest,latest ? :d
[12:53] <CraiZE> is there a newsticker (for rss feeds) that i can add to a new panel ?
[12:53] <Apostle^> !dapper
[12:53] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[12:53] <Apostle^> CraiZE: yea, sudo apt-cache search rss
[12:53] <neuron> og, so ubuntu 5.10 is actualy breezy?
[12:53] <yabba> Apostle^, Killgore : it was just because i did "uptime" and my system was like "4 users" i wondered. now it comes out that i have 4 times the same user connected :S how that?
[12:53] <Apostle^> neuron: indeed
[12:53] <neuron> oh*
[12:53] <eth42> yabba, I mean if "active users" == "logged in users", then use "who"
[12:53] <Killgore> do they wait until its fully stable before a release?
[12:53] <peter_> oh I know what must be the cause: a bunch of "diversions" are involved
[12:53] <neuron> okay, thanks
[12:53] <Apostle^> yabba: it can happen when you use sudo
[12:53] <yabba> eth42, okay :D
[12:53] <yabba> Apostle^, ah alright
[12:53] <Apostle^> yabba: i have three of me right now ;-0
[12:53] <CraiZE> Apostle^: thanks!
[12:54] <CrashProne> Soo... someone... help... microphone.  I downloaded and installed Audacity just for kicks (audio recording prograM) and after I shut it back off, I couldn't talk on TeamSpeak anymore!  And... my mic is unworkey.
[12:54] <Killgore> yabba: im loged in twice
[12:54] <yabba> :D
[12:54] <Apostle^> CraiZE: yep
[12:54] <yabba> okay, thank you
[12:54] <eth42> is there a tool in ubuntu to test the quality of dvd media?
[12:55] <CraiZE> Apostle^: you know anything more specific ?
[12:55] <Apostle^> CraiZE: you want it to run in the notification area?
[12:55] <CraiZE> no
[12:55] <CraiZE> you know i got a bar with all my windows on
[12:55] <CraiZE> i wanna add a bar
[12:55] <CraiZE> where the news scroll
[12:55] <CraiZE> but on top of my desktops
[12:55] <Apostle^> CraiZE: hmm.. i'm not following you
[12:55] <CraiZE> okay
[12:55] <munzir> Killgore: I pasted to you how mine looks
[12:55] <Apostle^> CraiZE: the one i use is liferea - feed aggregator for GNOME
[12:56] <CraiZE> you got a panel with applications, places, system, icons, etc
[12:56] <Apostle^> CraiZE: indeed.
[12:56] <CraiZE> i want a 2nd bar that is empty like that one
[12:56] <PingBad> so he is
[12:56] <CraiZE> and have the news scroll on it
[12:56] <Apostle^> CraiZE: on like the left or right hand side?
[12:56] <CraiZE> you get me now ? :)
[12:56] <CraiZE> i dunno
[12:56] <ab0rted> ;p
[12:56] <Apostle^> CraiZE: i do yes, but i'm not sure how to make the news 'scroll'
[12:56] <CraiZE> ah
[12:56] <Killgore> munzir: thats crazy
[12:57] <munzir> Killgore: there is something wrong, eh?
[12:57] <CraiZE> well im gonna try liferea
[12:57] <rixth> What package powers the notification bubbles?
[12:57] <Killgore> munzir: yes definately it seems to me that its trying to connect twice
[12:58] <munzir> Killgore: now if I disconnect the ethernet should I still be connected via wireless?
[12:58] <munzir> Killgore: may be I have a nice load balanced system ;)
[12:59] <Killgore> munzir: i was just about to suggest turning one of them off
[12:59] <Killgore> munzir: speed*2!!!
[12:59] <pippijn> hi all
[12:59] <bluesocks> hi
[12:59] <Killgore> rythmbox is quite good eh?
[12:59] <Apostle^> Killgore: amarok is much better.
[01:00] <CrashProne> Anybody able to help?  Mic worked just earlier and stopped after I installed Audacity and tried to use it?
[01:00] <Apostle^> CrashProne: in a terminal type alsamixer
[01:00] <bluesocks> i need help with my smcwusbgt-g wireless adapter , i dont get it to work :-(
[01:00] <Apostle^> CrashProne: make sure the device is set to on toggle with M
[01:00] <Killgore> Apostle^: amarok support gapless playback?
[01:00] <Apostle^> Killgore: yes
[01:00] <Apostle^> Killgore: sudo apt-get install amarok amarok-xine
[01:00] <PwcrLinux> Hi there
[01:01] <Apostle^> PwcrLinux: hello.
[01:01] <munzir> Killgore: what do you mean by speed*2?
[01:01] <Killgore> Apostle^: hmm what else is better about it? anything in particular
[01:01] <Killgore> munzir: 2 connections to the internet :P
[01:01] <CraiZE> hrm
[01:01] <Pupeno> !mp3
[01:01] <Apostle^> Killgore: it keeps a very good database of all your music it's very quick and it uses 'xine' which is the best media engine. it is also very pretty ;-)
[01:01] <ubotu> mp3 is, like, totally, a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[01:01] <ESPOiG> Killgore: y have 2 connections is there even any point
[01:01] <Cooleo> Wine Still Isn't Working :(
[01:01] <munzir> Killgore: yes it's funny! ok I will disconnect the ethernet now and see whether the wireless would work
[01:02] <Cooleo> :(
[01:02] <Killgore> ESPOiG: i was being stupid :P
[01:02] <munzir> ESPOiG: I really don't know how this happens and why
[01:02] <Cooleo> sigh
[01:02] <Cooleo> 
[01:02] <ESPOiG> Killgore: :P my bad
[01:02] <gnomefreak> !wine
[01:02] <Killgore> Apostle^: should i install that thing that easyubuntu has to make KDE apps look nicer? or is amorak gnome
[01:02] <PwcrLinux> I was puzzle, the OSD not working on my sony lappy PCG-GRZ610, the Live CD works good and but the install CD didn't put a OSD for FN key to control volume, brightness, LCD/VGA, LCD/TV and HD Sleep.. except the brightnet works no OSD display..
[01:02] <gnomefreak> !+wine
[01:02] <ubotu> Wine is a compatibility layer used by linux to let it run the majority of windows programs. To get wine installed, download http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/wine/wine_0.9.10-winehq1-2_i386.deb then follow this guide to installing it http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=149585 More info at http://www.winehq.com or for support go to #winehq
[01:02] <Fuku> Hi
[01:03] <gnomefreak> Cooleo: try in #winehq
[01:03] <Apostle^> Killgore: amarok is KDE but it looks perfectly, want to see a screenshot of it on my system?
[01:03] <Killgore> yer ok
[01:03] <rungek> bimberi I seam to get same problems using the link you showed me
[01:03] <rungek> bimberi about skype that is
[01:03] <Azertyuuu> hey all, i got my usb-storage and floppy mounted, but do i always need to paste files in Konsole by typing "mv file target" as root ? Is there no other way ?
[01:03] <mercen> hi there
[01:03] <PwcrLinux> !osd
[01:03] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, PwcrLinux
[01:03] <PwcrLinux> Hmm
[01:03] <bluesocks> anyone help me wit my smcwusbt-g ?
[01:03] <Killgore> Azertyuuu: yes
[01:03] <Killgore> Azertyuuu: i mean yes there is another way
[01:04] <Azertyuuu> ah ok
[01:04] <Azertyuuu> :)
[01:04] <CrashProne> Apostle^: In the alsamixer display capture section, the mic display doesn't really have anything on it... it's just kinda... red.  "L    R CAPTUR" that sorta thing.
[01:04] <Apostle^> CrashProne: does it have an on/off toggle and a volume toggle?
[01:04] <Apostle^> Killgore: http://home.comcast.net/~elitepete/Screenshot.png
[01:05] <CrashProne> Apostle^ not in the capture section no.
[01:05] <CrashProne> In playback...
[01:05] <Killgore> Azertyuuu: you need to edit your fstab
[01:05] <Apostle^> CrashProne: hm, so after installing audacity it no longer works?
[01:05] <CrashProne> Exactly. :-P  No mic functionality after installing that.
[01:05] <Azertyuuu> Killgore:  i know, but what can i write there ?
[01:05] <Apostle^> CrashProne: all i ever hear about audacity is problems, i think it's a bunko program.
[01:05] <CrashProne> I liked it in Windows...
[01:06] <Apostle^> CrashProne: have you uninstalled it?
[01:06] <CrashProne> Yeah
[01:06] <Apostle^> CrashProne: hm.
[01:06] <PwcrLinux> *Yawn*... I need get some sleep cya later all :)
[01:06] <Killgore> Azertyuuu: in the options section instead of defaults write somthing like this. rw,user     <- user makes it so anyone can mount it with full rw permissions
[01:06] <Apostle^> CrashProne: in the volume applet have you checked 'headphone' or mic or whatever?
[01:07] <Apostle^> CrashProne: also in alsamixer do you have an input source area?
[01:07] <CrashProne> Yeah, it looks fine...
[01:07] <CrashProne> Input source area...
[01:07] <CrashProne> Mic select?
[01:07] <CrashProne> 'cause that should be fine...
[01:07] <new_to_linux1> !codec
[01:07] <Apostle^> CrashProne: play around with that, mine is a weird setting for my mic..
[01:07] <ubotu> new_to_linux1: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:08] <Killgore> Apostle^: hey u like APC???
[01:08] <Apostle^> Killgore: yea i do
[01:08] <Apostle^> Killgore: i like tool better though.
[01:08] <Killgore> Apostle^: you know the new album is out June?
[01:08] <Apostle^> Killgore: no i wasn't aware.
[01:09] <Azertyuuu> Killgore:  there is no usb-storage entrie in fstab
[01:09] <Pirarucu> Id like a help. How may i setup my soundcard. A home theater 5.1? i cant find soundconfig or alsaconfig and so on...
[01:09] <Killgore> Azertyuuu: ummm
[01:09] <Apostle^> Pirarucu: you need to setup the volume levels or?
[01:09] <Killgore> Azertyuuu: is it plugged in?
[01:09] <new_to_linux1> !valknut
[01:09] <ubotu> I heard valknut is a Direct Connect client, in Ubuntu the package containing Valknut is dcgui-qt
[01:10] <munzir_> Killgore: I am now connecting via wireless after disconnecting the ethernet ;)
[01:10] <Pirarucu> Yes the soundcard is there
[01:10] <MenZa> How do you create a directory in a terminal?
[01:10] <Killgore> munzir: wont the enet be faster?
[01:10] <Apostle^> MenZa: mkdir
[01:10] <MenZa> ty.
[01:10] <defcon8> when i install nvidia-glx will i be able to play 3d games?
[01:10] <Azertyuuu> Killgore:  yes, it's mounted in/dev/sda , but can't see it in fstab
[01:10] <cettal> nick /damba
[01:10] <Apostle^> MenZa: remember you might need to do sudo mkdir dirname :-)
[01:10] <MenZa> And move a folder to a given director?
[01:11] <Apostle^> defcon8: yea, you should be able to
[01:11] <MenZa> Apostle^: well, seemed to work.
[01:11] <tico> hello i have installed ubuntu and mandriva in this box but my lilo from mandriva doesn't show the ubuntu option what can i do?
[01:11] <Apostle^> MenZa: mv
[01:11] <defcon8> okay htanks
[01:11] <Killgore> Azertyuuu: check mtab it shows your currently mounted devices
[01:11] <Apostle^> MenZa: mv or cp
[01:11] <Azertyuuu> Killgore:  i watch it in KDiskfree
[01:11] <MenZa> mv /source/ > /new/ right?
[01:11] <Apostle^> MenZa: cp is like cut, cp is like copy/paste
[01:11] <Apostle^> MenZa: mv is like cut*
[01:11] <Frogzoo> tico: you need to update your lilo.conf & reinstall
[01:11] <Killgore> Azertyuuu: pardone?
[01:12] <Apostle^> MenZa: mv music /home/user/music
[01:13] <Pirarucu> Where are the sound module config (install) in Ubuntu?
[01:13] <walden> hey all.
[01:13] <Frogzoo> Pirarucu: depends if you mean OSS, ALSA or ESD
[01:13] <Pirarucu> Alsa or OSS
[01:14] <Apostle^> Pirarucu: i'd suggest using ALSA
[01:14] <cerius> u-de
[01:14] <Pirarucu> Where i get it?
[01:15] <Pirarucu> the comand whereis didnt find it!
[01:15] <Apostle^> Pirarucu: you should have it already
[01:15] <Apostle^> linux-sound-base - base package for ALSA and OSS sound systems
[01:15] <Pirarucu> Thanks Guy!
[01:15] <Apostle^> yep.
[01:15] <Pirarucu> I just need get our now
[01:16] <Apostle^> our ?
[01:16] <Arronax> hi, I'm new with Linux. can anybody tell me how to access an ekstern harddisk?
[01:16] <Pirarucu> Get out
[01:16] <Apostle^> Arronax: external ?
[01:16] <Arronax> yes, sorry
[01:16] <cerius> wie kann ich ubunre de loinen
[01:16] <cerius> wie kann ich ubunre de loinen
[01:16] <MenZa> Apostle^: ekstern = Danish term for 'external'.
[01:16] <MenZa> !de
[01:16] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de
[01:16] <walden> What do you mean "external hard disk"?
[01:17] <walden> a USB hard disk?
[01:17] <Apostle^> MenZa: i thought it was drunk english :-P
[01:17] <Pirarucu> Das wiess ich nicht
[01:17] <MenZa> cerius: #ubuntu-de
[01:17] <cerius> #ubunt-de
[01:17] <Arronax> I cannot access my external harddisk
[01:17] <Pirarucu> Das weiss ich nicht
[01:17] <Apostle^> Arronax: is it mounted ?
[01:17] <cerius> join #ubunte-de
[01:17] <MenZa> cerius: /join #ubuntu-de
[01:17] <MenZa> :p
[01:17] <cerius> jon/ ubuntu-de
[01:17] <Arronax> Apostle - I'm sorry, I do not know what that means
[01:18] <MenZa> Arronax: do tell me if you need help with translations.
[01:18] <MenZa> !mount
[01:18] <ubotu> hmm... mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[01:18] <burepe> what is a command to make a directory writeable by anyone? sudo chmod 777 /file?
[01:18] <cerius> cerius: /join #ubunte-de
[01:18] <Arronax> MenZa - I think I'm doing OK, but thanks :)
[01:18] <MenZa> Arronax: goody :)
[01:18] <MenZa> Can I find Gaim 2.0 in the repositories?
[01:18] <walden> burepe: chmod -R /path/to/dir
[01:18] <walden> MenZa: apt-cache search gaim
[01:19] <burepe> walden, too few arguments
[01:19] <MenZa> walden: I assume "gaim-dev" is what I'm looking for?
[01:20] <MenZa> ty walden.
[01:20] <Arronax> MenZa - what is a 'mounted' harddisk?
[01:20] <tico> how can i recover the grub from ubuntu, because accidentaly i installed the lilo from mandriva
[01:20] <MenZa> Arronax: you need to make the operating system identify the hard-drive.
[01:20] <munzir_> MenZa: I though -dev means the source code, no?
[01:20] <Arronax> MenZa - can you explain how to do that?
[01:20] <MenZa> munzir_: well, that's what I'm not sure about.
[01:20] <Killgore> tico: just add an option to boot to ubuntu in the lilo bootloader
[01:20] <Apostle^> microsoft is giving away free .com names, too bad they still want a credit card #
[01:21] <Apostle^> screw that.
[01:21] <MenZa> Arronax: I'm no linux guru myself. I only know how to mount a Windows partition :)
[01:21] <Arronax> MenZa - ok, thanks anyway
[01:21] <Apostle^> ubotu: tell tico about grub
[01:21] <walden> Arronax: read the link in the wiki that ubotu told you about
[01:21] <MenZa> Not at all :)
[01:22] <MenZa> Arronax: I'm sure someone here will be able to help.
[01:22] <ompaul> !grub
[01:22] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[01:22] <Killgore> Apostle^: giving away? credit card? that doesnt add up
[01:22] <ompaul> tico, may be interesting to you ^^
[01:23] <rajiv> hi everyone
[01:23] <Apostle^> Killgore: yea, they say they want it to make sure the website won't be used for phishing and the likes.
[01:23] <Apostle^> ompaul: i gave him the grub info already ;-)
[01:23] <WebLOCH> anyone installed macosx recently?
[01:23] <ompaul> Apostle^, me no see
[01:23] <ompaul> :)
[01:23] <mekker> Hello
[01:23] <rajiv> ANYONE HERE PLAYS CS IN UBUNTU USING WINE????
[01:23] <MisterN> hi
[01:23] <mekker> I have a problem with my usb drive
[01:23] <Apostle^> Apostle^ ubotu: tell tico about grub
[01:23] <ompaul> rajiv, quit with the caps lock thanks
[01:23] <Apostle^> L0(
[01:24] <Apostle^> ;-) *
[01:24] <rajiv> k ompaul
[01:24] <pantera> hello alguien habla espaol
[01:24] <Apostle^> !es
[01:24] <mekker> ubuntu mounts it two times
[01:24] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:24] <Killgore> !es
[01:24] <mekker> in a different way
[01:24] <Uptime> ;-P
[01:24] <unamed> Hi there ... not newbie with linux but with the 5.04 ... how comes that I cannot rip CD with the juicer in the MP3 format?
[01:24] <Killgore> WebLOCH: where do i go to find out how?
[01:25] <Killgore> unamed: you need the non-free codecs
[01:25] <Killgore> !mp3
[01:25] <pantera> thank you
[01:25] <ubotu> somebody said mp3 was a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[01:25] <deadzed> How do i execute dist-upgrade with Synaptic? Is there a difference?
[01:25] <WebLOCH> Killgore, what do you wnat to find out about sorry?
[01:25] <ompaul> deadzed, from which version to which version?
[01:25] <deadzed> beezy > dapper
[01:25] <Killgore> WebLOCH: id like to know if my hardware is compatible
[01:26] <MisterN> deadzed: what you say=
[01:26] <deadzed> I cannot find the button is synaptic
[01:26] <ompaul> deadzed, go to the channel #ubuntu+1 where all they ever talk about is dapper
[01:26] <aimaz> how can I add an item to every users' gnome menu?
[01:26] <Killgore> WebLOCH: with OSXfree
[01:26] <ompaul> !tell deadzed about upgrade
[01:26] <WebLOCH> Killgore, with what?  You havent actually told me
[01:26] <WebLOCH> Killgore, I dont know what OSXFree is, nor do I know what your hardware is or its specs
[01:26] <unamed> Killgore: yes thta's right ... I installed them because I can read MP3s ... don't understand why they don't appear in juicer. I installed all things from universe and multiverse. You can f e rip in MP3? So that I just have to look what I did wrong ... :-(
[01:27] <Killgore> WebLOCH: is there any where i can go to find out if i can install OSX on my amd machine. Sorry if you werent talking about that
[01:27] <WebLOCH> Killgore, nope as far as i know there is no free OSX
[01:27] <ompaul> Killgore, I suggest ##apple
[01:27] <ompaul> WebLOCH, cos it sure is not Ubuntu
[01:27] <ompaul> :)
[01:28] <Killgore> unamed: check it the ripping profiles
[01:28] <Apostle^> whats the SAFEST way to upgrade to dapper from breezy ?
[01:28] <Killgore> ompaul: i might get shouted out of the chan if i talked about that in there :P
[01:29] <unamed> Killgore, you mean "preferences" by "profiles"?
[01:29] <ompaul> Killgore, well it is offtopic for here
[01:29] <Hobbsee> Apostle^: install off a dapper cd
[01:29] <Killgore> unamed: yeah
[01:29] <Hobbsee> flight 6 is out
[01:29] <Hobbsee> !flight6
[01:29] <ubotu> flight6 is, like, http://www.ubuntu.com/testing
[01:29] <Apostle^> Hobbsee: i don't want to lose any data?
[01:29] <deadzed> Apostle^ What I\ve been doing usually - change all sources to dapper in sources.list and dist-uprade
[01:29] <Killgore> unamed: then edit profiles
[01:29] <Hobbsee> Apostle^: backup first?
[01:29] <deadzed> you gotta change kernel
[01:29] <Apostle^> Hobbsee: i mean won't the dapper delete all the files?
[01:30] <unamed> Killgore, you are the only one answering here that everybody is speaking to you?!?!? ... In the preferences I don't them ... I go to check the installed packages. Thnaks
[01:30] <Hobbsee> backup your home partition, and you wont lose them...
[01:30] <Apostle^> deadzed: and how long does that take ?
[01:30] <deadzed> 30 mins maybe
[01:30] <Killgore> unamed: what is your first language? sorry if im rude but you might have better luck in another channel
[01:31] <unamed> My first langage is french, but I speak good english. Is there any french channel anyway?
[01:32] <Madpilot> !fr
[01:32] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:32] <Matic`Makovec> off topic..what's the weather like in france in may ?
[01:32] <Killgore> yeah
[01:32] <unamed> thanks Madpilot
[01:32] <Madpilot> np
[01:32] <Matic`Makovec> ^^
[01:32] <Killgore> unamed: sorry but your last message didnt make much sense
[01:33] <manatlan> hello
[01:33] <unamed> Matic`Makovec, I'm in Germany, sorry I don't know the weather in France today ... But in May the weather is warm and nice
[01:33] <Uptime> !uptime
[01:33] <munzir> Hi, If I have a domain.com set as a name virtual host, can I redirect newdomain.com to it using cnames?
[01:33] <Matic`Makovec> unamed, thanks :)
[01:33] <Matic`Makovec> i'm going to fance in may, so i was woundering.
[01:34] <unamed> Killgore,no pb ... I'm coming right out of the bed ... maybe still sleepy. I have to drink a little more coffee
[01:34] <Killgore> unamed: :P
[01:34] <manatlan> hello, i'd got an ATI9200, and glxgears gave me 2000fps, i've just bought an geforce6200, and glxgears score at 1270fps ... i know glxgears is not a bench tool ... but i want to know if it's a normal score for the geforce, or if i must exchange my card right now ?
[01:34] <Killgore> unamed: ice coffee is good, i dont like the taste of real coffe
[01:34] <unamed> Matic`Makovec, you lucky! I will go there too ... Lyon
[01:35] <rixth> md5 isn't affected by the filename, right?
[01:35] <Killgore> manatlan: they are very differecnt architecutures
[01:35] <Matic`Makovec> unamed, i'm going to nica, monako, that coast(i don't know it's name in engliosh.. asure or something..) provansa, ..
[01:35] <Trunkz> wuu
[01:35] <Trunkz> so far
[01:35] <Trunkz> ubuntu's installin happily
[01:35] <Killgore> manatlan: did you reserach this purchase? if you did then you would know that the 6200 uses system memory as well
[01:35] <Fuku> hiho
[01:36] <unamed> Matic`Makovec, "Rhe Riviera" ... or "la cte d'azur" in french ... very nice places!!!
[01:36] <Matic`Makovec> yep, that's the one :)
[01:36] <unamed> sorry "the riviera" ... I have to take off also my gloves :-)
[01:36] <manatlan> Killgore: ok, so the 6200 is better thant the ati9200, it's just glxgears,
[01:37] <Pupeno> Is it possible to import the kaddressbook contacts into thunderbird (it is a vcf file) ?
[01:37] <Fuku> I have this kinf of problem, and cant boot anymore : http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?postid=241355 ; but the given solution here doesnt work, so if someone have an idea...
[01:37] <manatlan> Killgore: i didn't do research, i just wanted to have a simple nvidia card
[01:37] <JViz> uba-tuba > ubuntu; granite smash people!
[01:38] <manatlan> Killgore: i'm not a specialist in video card .... i just wanted to know why 6200 makes less fps than the poor ati9200
[01:40] <Killgore> bump
[01:40] <Killgore> manatlan: becuase
[01:40] <Killgore> manatlan: the 9200 has dedicated memory right? on the card
[01:41] <manatlan> Killgore: yes ... 128mo
[01:41] <MenZa> http://www.menza.org/gaim_guification.png <- Can anyone explain the immensely small font-size? My fonts appear incredibly small in various places; KDM had the same problem when I used it.
[01:41] <Killgore> manatlan: but the 6200 has some memory on the card, and steals the rest from your system RAM
[01:41] <Killgore> manatlan: how much do u have BTW
[01:41] <manatlan> Killgore: in the geforce6200, i've got 256mo
[01:41] <manatlan> Killgore: and 1go of RAM
[01:42] <Killgore> manatlan: hmmm. Well it is a low end card, umm im not to sure actually
[01:42] <Cooleo> where can you download libgtk1.2?
[01:42] <Killgore> manatlan: btw how do i get the fps to show in glxgears?
[01:42] <manatlan> Killgore: glxgears -printfps
[01:42] <walden> Cooleo: apt-cache search libgtk
[01:42] <MenZa> Cooleo: sudo apt-get install libgtk1.2 ?
[01:43] <_mark> how do I get into the kubuntu channel?
[01:43] <palco> hi ubuntu users!
[01:43] <Cooleo> im on XP at the moment and want to download the file
[01:43] <MenZa> _mark: type /join #kubuntu
[01:43] <Killgore> manatlan: well i get 2500 fps on my FX5200
[01:43] <_mark> ok thanks
[01:43] <walden> Cooleo: http://packages.ubuntu.com
[01:43] <MenZa> Cooleo: Ah, I see. Not sure then.
[01:43] <walden> hello, palco
[01:43] <MenZa> _mark: not at all :)
[01:43] <manatlan> Killgore: ok
[01:44] <MenZa> http://www.menza.org/gaim_guification.png <- Can anyone explain the immensely small font-size? My fonts appear incredibly small in various places; KDM had the same problem when I used it.
[01:44] <Cin> Hai... is there a hard drive manager? Like I've got another hard drive I store music on, but (yeah I'm new to Linux) so I don't know if it's even detected, or how to find it.
[01:44] <MenZa> Cin: you have to mount it.
[01:44] <MenZa> Which filesystem is it?
[01:44] <Chousuke> Tell me, should I have a file called /proc/bus/usb/devices?
[01:44] <palco> can anyone tell me how to install packages from soarce in Ubuntu ? pls
[01:44] <Cin> FreeBSD's, maybe.
[01:44] <Chousuke> I want it :/
[01:45] <Chousuke> but it's not there.
[01:45] <MenZa> Cin: Err, I wouldn't know then. Sorry.
[01:45] <MenZa> (I thought it might've been NTFS or FAT)
[01:45] <walden> palco: you install the same way. download the src, untar. read the README and INSTALL. Follow the instructions. usually, ./configure --options. make and make install
[01:45] <Killgore> palco:  u need the tools to do it first
[01:45] <Cin> Well it *was* NTFS, but I changed the partition to FreeBSD when I was installing it, but I decided to try Ubuntu after that, sooo.
[01:45] <Killgore> palco: sudo apt-get install build-essentials
[01:45] <_mark> I wouldn't of thought there was such a big difference in Gnome and KDE
[01:46] <Cin> I'd rather format it under Linux filesystem, I don't care about what's on it.
[01:46] <saif> i am using j2sdk from sun, when trying to start jboss, i get an out memory error, any1 had this problem?
[01:46] <Killgore> _mark: HUGE difference
[01:46] <hartz> Hey everybody... what does "db" mean in /etc/nsswitch.conf?
[01:46] <palco> Killgore: palco: sudo apt-get install build-essentials, does it creat an installation filde, or just installs?
[01:46] <MenZa> http://www.menza.org/gaim_guification.png <- Can anyone explain the immensely small font-size? My fonts appear incredibly small in various places; KDM had the same problem when I used it.
[01:47] <Pupeno> !mp3
[01:47] <ubotu> mp3 is, like, a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[01:47] <necro> Upon booting my Ubuntu breezy badger system for the first time after cd installation, continued installation ensued, but an error and now I'm at a terminal.  How can I continue the process?
[01:47] <Killgore> palco: no build-essentials is to get make, as walden suggested
[01:47] <Cin> MenZa, any idea how I access the physical drive and format the partition to Linux format? >.>
[01:47] <MistaED> hartz: man nsswitch.conf
[01:48] <hartz> MistaED I was just reading the man page :-)
[01:48] <_mark> yeah I couldn't get opengl under KDE and Gnome I had no problem
[01:48] <palco> Killgore: palco:  u need the tools to do it first :: so me tools are not installed with the default ubuntu install, are they?
[01:48] <Killgore> Cin: hmm ive never done it before and i dont know how safe it would be
[01:48] <Killgore> palco: no
[01:48] <MistaED> hartz: i guess it just refers to database
[01:48] <Cin> Killgore, safe?
[01:49] <Killgore> Cin: apparently it is safe. I assume you want to convert NFTS to FAT32?
[01:49] <Cin> Killgore, nooo. I want to treat the drive as if it's totally new, blank, and I want to format it under Linux's FS if possible?
[01:49] <goodi_> I try to mount /dev/sdd1 to /mnt/somedir - and get /dev/sdd1 is in use. (/dev/sdd1 or the dir is not mounted yet (I verified that)) but there is a symlink in /dev/mapper to sdd1 - how do I remove this symlink correctly?
[01:49] <hartz> Mista I'm trying to know what DB it is referring to, and to know what is / isn't in there, eg in case I need to modify it!  More out of curiosity's sake
[01:49] <Killgore> Cin: so you dont care about the data?
[01:49] <Cin> Killgore, nope.
[01:49] <Killgore> Cin: its external?
[01:50] <palco> Killgore, and onece I install buildessentials I will get "male install" and "checkinstall" to compile ind install soarce packages on my ubuntu pc. is that right?
[01:50] <Cin> Killgore, no, IDE.
[01:50] <_mark> now I am in the process of setting up Gnome had to reinstall after so many hours of messin with the video driver its even the same driver so that leaves notin but the desktop to blame hehe
[01:50] <Killgore> palco: yes as far as i know
[01:50] <Killgore> Cin: too easy mate
[01:50] <Cin> Killgore, heeeeeeeeeeeelp .:P
[01:50] <Killgore> Cin: get a program called GParted. sudo apt-get install gparted
[01:50] <Cin> Oki, cool.
[01:50] <Killgore> Cin: its graphical and all
[01:51] <_mark> gotta go dl is done laterz
[01:51] <palco> Killgore, and everything else I need to know is there in istall and readme files of the soarse packages. right?
[01:52] <SHYFX> hello, im currently running ubuntu live because i have a full hard drive and it wont let me log on
[01:52] <SHYFX> anyone able to help
[01:53] <Cin> Killgore, what should I convert the partition to? :O (This is for putting music/documents/etc. on)
[01:53] <Apostle^> SHYFX: you can't logon to the ubuntu system because the HD is full ?
[01:53] <rixth> What package powers the notification bubbles?
[01:53] <SHYFX> yeah
[01:53] <Apostle^> SHYFX: whats the error you get
[01:54] <SHYFX> something about hard drive being full and nothing can be written to the home directory pls contact ur administrator
[01:54] <rixth> SHYFX, from the live CD, why don't you delete from files?
[01:54] <rixth> Like your trash, or /tmp
[01:54] <SHYFX> i cant see the files
[01:54] <SHYFX> nothing in there
[01:54] <palco> Killgore, do i need to log in as root to do this, or sude will work?
[01:54] <Cin> What filesystem should I use for a hard drive I'm storing my documents and music on?
[01:55] <misterii> hey peeps
[01:55] <rixth> Cin, do you use Windows?
[01:55] <rixth> As well as Ubuntu
[01:55] <Cin> rixth, did.
[01:55] <misterii> how do I do a memory test in ubuntu?
[01:55] <Cin> rixth, nah, no Win32.
[01:55] <Killgore_> hey
[01:55] <Killgore_> who stole my name?
[01:55] <Cin> rixth, why?
[01:55] <rixth> Cin, I'd say fat32 or ext3.
[01:55] <SHYFX> rixth all of my files that i saved in the home dir are not here in the live cd mode
[01:56] <palco> Killgore, ok, thanx so much!
[01:56] <palco> Killgore, thnk yoy
[01:56] <Cin> ext3. Okay. Is that the usual one?
[01:56] <Killgore_> Cin: use ext3 its quite good
[01:56] <Killgore_> palco: np
[01:56] <rixth> With fat32, you don't have permissions, but Windows can read it (Windows CAN read ext2 & 3 too) and there are many more file recovery tools for fat32 than the ext filesystems
[01:57] <Cin> Aye. I'm not bothered about Windows, and I want permissions. I'll go for ext3 then.
[01:57] <misterii> any memtest applications in ubuntu?
[01:57] <Killgore_> Cin: yeah thats right boy, windows pfft
[01:57] <fyrestrtr> since when can windows read ext3?
[01:57] <Cin> Killgore_, hehehe.
[01:57] <Killgore_> misterii: yeah
[01:57] <misterii> Killgore, ??
[01:57] <Killgore_> fyrestrtr: with software
[01:57] <fyrestrtr> ah, so not natively.
[01:57] <Killgore_> misterii: in the grub boot list
[01:57] <fyrestrtr> and I bet this software is not free, either.
[01:57] <Killgore_> misterii: choose memtest
[01:58] <misterii> ah
[01:58] <misterii> okay..
[01:58] <Killgore_> fyrestrtr: no the ext2 software is well supported and free, but im not sure about ext3
[01:58] <Cin> This song makes my CRT screen vibrate.
[01:58] <Cin> Yay for bass. ^_^ !
[01:58] <SHYFX> anyone know why i cant access my files saved on my hd from live cd?
[01:58] <fyrestrtr> Killgore_: yeah but honestly, who uses ext2 for other than the boot partition :)
[01:59] <fyrestrtr> SHYFX: maybe your hd is not mounted?
[01:59] <SHYFX> and how can i mount it?
[01:59] <fyrestrtr> Cin: yaay for your subwoofer :)
[01:59] <rixth> fyrestrtr, there is a great driver for the ext filesystems for Windows. Windows sees it as any other drive. You don't need to use any special application,
[01:59] <fyrestrtr> SHYFX: mkdir ~/my-drive && mount /dev/whatever ~/my-drive
[01:59] <rixth> Cin, what speakers do you have/how powerul?
[02:00] <mercen> could someone explain me why glxinfo freezes when I start it (it displays name of display: :0.0 and then nothing else but doesn't stop either) even though kernel modules seem to have loaded fine and X looks happy? Running ubuntu 5.10 on an AMD64 w/ nforce3 and radeon 9250 detected as a 9200 pro, w/ X driver "ati"
[02:00] <mercen> I'm at a loss as to where I could look for a clue as to what is happening
[02:01] <rixth> I have Logitech Z-2300s. I need to stick down my lamp with blue-tak so it doesn't rattle =)
[02:01] <rixth> Yay for 2.1 systems.
[02:01] <Killgore_> fyrestrtr: yeah but ext2 can be used for anything
[02:01] <petsei> hallo
[02:01] <Cin> rixth, heh, 5.1 200watt. You like Prodigy (I'm listening to Spitfire). :D
[02:02] <Matthewv> petsei, hi
[02:02] <fyrestrtr> Killgore_: I'm sure it can, but there are so many better options. But I guess it all comes down do how cross-compatible you want.
[02:02] <Killgore_> Cin: that song rocks
[02:02] <Cin> Killgore_, you rock! :D
[02:02] <rixth> Cin, is that how powerful te whole system is, or just the sub?
[02:02] <fyrestrtr> Cin: that song > *
[02:02] <rixth> Cin, http://www.last.fm/user/wdaltec
[02:02] <Killgore_> rixth: i use my senheisser headphones mad bass
[02:02] <fyrestrtr> I have it in my car, it rattles my trunk lid :D
[02:02] <Killgore_> fyrestrtr: what would u use then?
[02:02] <fyrestrtr> Killgore_: ext3 or reiserfs
[02:03] <rixth> I bought some in-ear Sony ones- totally amazing. Noise blocking.
[02:03] <Cin> rixth, not sure actually. I think that's all together. The sub can only rattle so much. :P
[02:03] <ompaul> Hobbsee, got a second?
[02:03] <Hobbsee> ompaul: yeah
[02:03] <Killgore_> fyrestrtr: resierFS...hmmm interesting
[02:03] <Cin> fyrestrt, you know good music. :D
[02:03] <rixth> Cin, the Z-2300s have a 120watt sub and two 40w sats. I got a noise complaint from two doors down last week =D
[02:03] <Hobbsee> having trouble with this assingmetn, so yeah
[02:03] <fyrestrtr> mercen: anything in the x log?
[02:03] <Killgore_> rixth: i envy you
[02:03] <ompaul> Hobbsee, assignment?
[02:03] <fyrestrtr> lol rixth. Logitech are the best when it comes to speakers.
[02:03] <Hobbsee> computing one - c++
[02:04] <Cin> Nice playlist, rixth .
[02:04] <ompaul> Hobbsee,ohh
[02:04] <rixth> I'm trying to figure out why it hasn't got any recent track plays up there. Rhythmbox seems to not be subitting to last.fm
[02:04] <scorchsaber> fyrestrtr: I say Altec Lansing rocks, myself
[02:04] <ompaul> Hobbsee, how is your python?
[02:04] <rixth> Killgore, when I last checked, Amazon had the for $60!!!
[02:05] <Hobbsee> ompaul: fairly bad, why do you ask?
[02:05] <Killgore_> fyrestrtr: i wish i would have gotten a 2.1 instead of 2.0
[02:05] <Killgore_> rixth: american? :( if so
[02:05] <Hobbsee> ompaul: i've never learned much of it - only some of the stuff in bash
[02:05] <Cooleo> grr!
[02:05] <fyrestrtr> scorchsaber: I've seen some Logitech's make altec lansing look like weak tweeters.
[02:05] <mercen> fyrestrtr: nothing helping me. It says it has successfully loaded the ati driver with radeon specific things, that it has recognized a 9200 pro and that it has started drm
[02:05] <Cooleo> Installing Wine Is A Pain In the Ass!
[02:05] <Cin> rixth, what were you listening to when you got the noise complaint? :)
[02:05] <Killgore_> Cooleo: no way
[02:05] <rixth> scorchsaber, I have had 3 pairs of Lansings (AV3000, 221, and VS-221) they were alright, the VS-221's were totally shit though.
[02:05] <fyrestrtr> mercen: how are you running glxinfo?
[02:06] <Cin> Cooleo, I've not heard that song for ages.
[02:06] <Cooleo> Killgore_ Yeah without an internet connection it i
[02:06] <Cooleo> *it is
[02:06] <mercen> the thing I don't understand is why glxinfo freezes? I could understand better if it complained that rendering is not direct
[02:06] <rixth> Cin, ''Hold Your Colour' by Pendulum
[02:06] <mercen> fyrestrtr: in a term
[02:06] <ompaul> I am coming to the opinion that there needs to be a standard call that can identify version number of the release and with some evil apt magic work out what is next version of a distro if any
[02:06] <fyrestrtr> mercen: as root?
[02:06] <Killgore_> rixth: you are my god!
[02:06] <ompaul> !root
[02:06] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[02:06] <ompaul> Hobbsee, ^^
[02:06] <rixth> Killgore_, heh, why?
[02:07] <mercen> fyrestrtr: as myself
[02:07] <Cin> I don't even remember setting my root password in Ubuntu, but it's cheese5234.
[02:07] <Hobbsee> ompaul: you mean an extension of cat /etc/issue?
[02:07] <Cin> That was a lie.
[02:07] <Killgore_> rixth: beast speakers and you like pendulum!!!!
[02:07] <ompaul> would parse that and then use some magic with apt to work out the next version
[02:07] <Cin> rixth, I've not heard that. I'll have to acquire that.
[02:07] <scorchsaber> Cin: You sure you want to say that around me? ;)
[02:07] <mercen> fyrestrtr: same thing if started w/ sudo
[02:07] <Hobbsee> ompaul: yes, that would be logical
[02:08] <rixth> Killgore_, Pendulum is great, but I am lost for new Drum and Bass music, can you reccomend someone?
[02:08] <Cin> scorchsaber, I lie to everbody. :P
[02:08] <munzir> Hi, Can I redirect a name virtual host domain.com to mynewdomain.com using cname?
[02:08] <ompaul> Hobbsee, sorry distracted keep ommitting the leading name
[02:08] <scorchsaber> Cin :D
[02:08] <rixth> Cin, I'm uploading the track now =D
[02:08] <Killgore_> rixth: i was hoping you could! :P
[02:08] <ompaul> Hobbsee, where would I work that one up for the list of stuff that should be in dapper+1
[02:08] <Hobbsee> ompaul: then again, you wouldnt have the $distro+1 repos in apt
[02:08] <Killgore_> rixth: which one are u giving him
[02:08] <baua> how are usbsticks handled in dapper?
[02:09] <Cin> rixth, to where?
[02:09] <fyrestrtr> mercen: hrmm, you aren't running any strange X setup, right?
[02:09] <Hobbsee> ompaul: as in, for a wishlist?  launchpad specs, i think
[02:09] <walden> baua: i dunno about usb sticks, but the ipod that i have works great.
[02:09] <mercen> fyrestrtr: afaict, nope
[02:09] <ompaul> Hobbsee, but you could parse the apt repo your hitting for non historical versions or look at commit dates
[02:09] <walden> baua: right out of a clean install.
[02:09] <Cooleo> its ubuntu debian based?
[02:09] <mercen> fyrestrtr: this is a fresh install, everything detected by ubuntu itself
[02:09] <rixth> Cin, yousendit.com Killgore_ Hold Your Colour, the song.
[02:09] <Killgore_> Cooleo: yeah
[02:09] <fyrestrtr> mercen: dunno what to tell you, other than to check for upgrades.
[02:09] <Hobbsee> ompaul: this has something to do with the idea of inviting the users to upgrade?
[02:09] <Cin> Cool.
[02:09] <Pupeno> How do I change the name of a network connection in the file manager (nautilus ?) ?
[02:09] <mercen> fyrestrtr: <sigh> thx anyway
[02:09] <ompaul> Hobbsee, just bouncing the idea - you got it
[02:09] <baua> walde: were is it mounted?
[02:09] <Killgore_> rixth: y not send him "Fasten your seatbelts" or "Slam" those are the best 2 songs on the album
[02:10] <baua> walden
[02:10] <rixth> Killgore_, I prefer 'Girl in the Fire'.
[02:10] <Hobbsee> ompaul: there was talk of that in one of the meetings - dapper devel status meeting or something - i dont remember which one
[02:10] <ompaul> Hobbsee, and it becomes a program that has a lot of readme style stuff in its output
[02:10] <rixth> Cin, if you have broadband, the album is here http://ts.searching.com/torrent/404577/Pendulum_Hold_Your_Colour
[02:10] <Hobbsee> ompaul: yeah, that would make sense
[02:10] <ompaul> Hobbsee, k I'll go poke the archives
[02:10] <Hobbsee> okay
[02:11] <m0r0n> Is it possible to hide all packages for kde from the synaptic package manager?
[02:11] <Cin> Yah I do. I just gotta be careful on IRC about sharing MP3's with users, some get all funny about it. :)))
[02:11] <ompaul> Hobbsee, that is why I invested in a whiteboard and markers = to allow me do this kind of stuff and then keep it on my agenda date it so it gets actioned
[02:11] <Cin> rixth, I'll check it out.
[02:11] <Hobbsee> hehe!
[02:11] <walden> baua: yes?
[02:12] <baua> walden: where is ur ipod mounted?
[02:12] <rixth> Killgore_, after Pendulum finished uploading, I'll up another of my fave dance track.s
[02:12] <ompaul> Hobbsee, oldest on that are 4 days old - its been busy for the month
[02:12] <THE_DIRK> hello
[02:13] <Hobbsee> ompaul: you looking in the mailing lists, or the meetings?
[02:13] <Killgore_> rixth: u listen to the ministry mixes?
[02:13] <THE_DIRK> what is gnome meeting??
[02:13] <rixth> Killgore_, indeed.
[02:14] <ompaul> Hobbsee,  meetings
[02:14] <Killgore_> rixth: australian or uk versions
[02:14] <rixth> THE_DIRK, Gnome Meeting doesn't exist anymore, it is caled ekiga now.
[02:14] <rixth> Killgore_, don't know
[02:14] <ompaul> hobbsee but first launchpad for the wishlist
[02:14] <THE_DIRK> but what is it?
[02:14] <bolsh> THE_DIRK, It's the old name for a VoIP & video-conferencing application that comes with GNOME
[02:14] <walden> baua: it is in /media
[02:15] <walden> baua: like /media/ipod
[02:15] <THE_DIRK> ok thanx :)
[02:16] <Cooleo> Can someone help me install linux?Ive downloaded and install libgtk1.2 but wine tools doesn't load :S
[02:17] <goodi_> I try to mount /dev/sdd1 to /mnt/somedir - and get /dev/sdd1 is in use. (/dev/sdd1 or the dir is not mounted yet (I verified that)) but there is a symlink in /dev/mapper to sdd1 - how do I remove this symlink correctly?
[02:17] <Cooleo> !root.
[02:17] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[02:17] <intuos_pen> can someone please explain what this guy means when he says "Then I added ndiswrapper to /etc/modules" in this article: "https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/ndiswrapper/+bug/32275" ?
[02:17] <evader> how can i add modules to be autoloaded?
[02:18] <Seveas> intuos_pen, echo ndiswrapper | sudo tee -a /etc/modules
[02:18] <evader> i've been using gentoo for ages, but now i'm new in debian/ubuntu land
[02:18] <Seveas> evader, lol, you do that the way I just said to intuos_pen 
[02:18] <evader> umm
[02:18] <Seveas> echo name_of_module | sudo tee -a /etc/modules
[02:18] <intuos_pen> Seveas: oh thanks very much.
[02:18] <evader> iok
[02:18] <evader> thanks
[02:18] <Din> um problem #2013 - Lost connection to MySQL server during query i get when phpmyadmin is trying to connect to mysql 5.0.19
[02:19] <Din> what can i do
[02:19] <rixth> Din, how did you get phpMyAdmin?
[02:19] <Din> i downloaded from offical page
[02:19] <Din> i configure it
[02:19] <Din> it worked with mysql 4
[02:19] <Din> now i make mysql 5
[02:20] <Din> and doesn't want to connect
[02:20] <rixth> Din, then go to #phpmyadmin or ##php or #mysql
[02:20] <Din> anyone know why
[02:20] <baua> walden: do u know which modul is mounting the ipod
[02:20] <walden> baua: how do i know? i am not sure..
[02:20] <baua> walden: what is ur /var/log/messages saying?
[02:21] <WebLOCH> hey guys, just installed breezy on my ibook and i get to gdm, i can log into terminal, but if i try loading gnome it looks like it starts but the splash etc doesnt load
[02:21] <oppo> hello all can someone tell me if it is possible to cancel operation: Device>Install partition table ?? i am very in the ... otherwise
[02:21] <oppo> in Gparted excuse me
[02:22] <rixth> Cin, http://s11.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0BACSIYSZZC7H2CFGMILXKS3A0
[02:22] <walden> baua: i will paste in #flood?
[02:22] <IdleOne> !paste
[02:22] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[02:23] <walden> baua: i can paste my /var/log/messages for the ipod
[02:23] <[koji] > !java
[02:23] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[02:23] <walden> baua: that help?
[02:24] <Cin> rixth, awesome. :D I'm listening to it now.
[02:25] <Ummmmm_> morning all :)
[02:25] <new_to_linux1> how can I mount the partition on ubuntu
[02:25] <hania> nienawidze tego systemu!!
[02:25] <rixth> Killgore_, have you got Ministry - The Annual 2006?
[02:25] <new_to_linux1> because I mount them but after restart the partitions are unmounting
[02:25] <Cin> rixth, wow this is nice. Thanks. :)
[02:25] <ompaul> !offtopic
[02:25] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[02:26] <graveson> what can i use to decode rm to mp3 or aiff
[02:26] <Killgore_> rixth: yeah buddy
[02:26] <Killgore_> rixth: and the clubbers guide
[02:26] <rixth> Cin, I really suggest the album, then. Killgore_ I really like 'Coburn - We Interrupt This Program'
[02:26] <Ummmmm_> I'm about to install Ubuntu, but i'll probably still need XP. Obviously I'll need to repartition the drive and install dual-boot. Is there any necessary installation order that I need, in order to get my machine dualbooting xp / dapper?
[02:26] <rixth> I guess we should take this to #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:26] <ompaul> rixth, and Killgore_ any chance you could take that conversation to the channel #ubuntu-offtopic  thanks ;-)
[02:26] <new_to_linux1> !MOUNT
[02:26] <ubotu> from memory, mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[02:26] <dylan_> what's the hdparm trick to remove the bottleneck in your hard drive?
[02:26] <Killgore_> ompaul: possibly :P
[02:27] <walden> !hdparm
[02:28] <Ummmmm_> ubotu: it's not drive mounting, it's GRUB .. ??
[02:28] <ubotu> Ummmmm_: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:28] <Ummmmm_> heh
[02:28] <Ummmmm_> http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/
[02:28] <IdleOne> !tell Ummmmm_ about bot
[02:28] <evader> How can I stop my /boot/grub/menu.lst file being changed whenever apt-get or synaptic/dselect upgrades my kernel???
[02:29] <walden> You cant.
[02:29] <ompaul> Killgore_, if xchat clicking on the link for #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:29] <Killgore_> ompaul: wow i didnt know you could do that
[02:29] <walden> You edit the grub menu and set it to how you want after the package installer is done with it.
[02:29] <martyv> dylan_, sudo hdparm -d 1 /dev/dha
[02:29] <martyv> s/dha/hda or whatever
[02:30] <evader> walden: so the only way around it would be to roll my own kernel then remove the kernel package files from synaptic/apt-get
[02:30] <evader> ?
[02:30] <dylan_> martyv, are you sure?
[02:31] <martyv> dylan_, depends what the bottle neck is
[02:31] <walden> evader: no.. allow apt-get to install the kernel.. no need for you to do all of that. but after it changes the menu.lst, just edit it with your fav text editor... and set one for the new kernel, one for thecurrent kernel for fallback, and another for Windows(if you have it). You dont need any more
[02:31] <new_to_linux1> !mount on startup
[02:31] <ubotu> new_to_linux1: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:32] <new_to_linux1> how can i mount the partition on startup? pls
[02:32] <walden> new_to_linux1: man fstab
[02:32] <bluey> fstab
[02:32] <walden> !fstab
[02:32] <ubotu> the /etc/fstab  file lists all drives and partitions but can be easily configured automatically with the diskmounter file found here http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter  See <partitions>.
[02:32] !lilo:*! cleaning the kline file; you may see a few spambots.... thanks
[02:32] <evader> ok thanks walden (it's just that i need to add some kernel options for my laptop)
[02:32] <bluey> use the auto option to automatically mount it
[02:33] <walden> evader: ok.
[02:33] <LogicalDash> I've installed kubuntu on top of GNOME, but I left the old login mananger. How do I change login managers?
[02:33] <Joris> first time on irc, want to discuss ubuntu-kernel USB issues (lost data)
[02:33] <Seveas> LogicalDash, sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[02:33] <Seveas> Joris, you mean losing data when unplugging a usb drive before unmounting?
[02:34] <graveson> can anyone help me please , what can i use to convert from rm/ram to mp3
[02:34] <Joris> Seveas, nope, getting all error messages on scsi/sda
[02:34] <LogicalDash> Seveas, thanks
[02:34] <deadzed> http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu :)
[02:34] <Seveas> Joris, could you pastebin those messages please
[02:34] <Seveas> deadzed, please join #ubuntu-offtopic for offtopic talk 
[02:35] <Seveas> graveson, transcode perhaps?
[02:35] <Joris> Seveas, a moment, this is a MAJOR issue to me, worked fine before
[02:35] <Joris> Seveas, will try to post asap
[02:35] <graveson> seveas: yes
[02:36] <goodi_> how can I remove e.g. /dev/mapper/sdd1 from the list?
[02:37] <dylan_> why use ubuntu over debian?
[02:38] <Pupeno> dylan_: because the pacakges are more up to date and since it is oriented towards desktop it makes a better desktop (for me at least)>
[02:39] <new_to_linux1> fstab
[02:39] <new_to_linux1> !fstab
[02:39] <ubotu> the /etc/fstab  file lists all drives and partitions but can be easily configured automatically with the diskmounter file found here http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter  See <partitions>.
[02:39] <dylan_> Pupeno, would you say Ubuntu is suffice even as a server?
[02:40] <bluey> dylan: you would do better to install the base system for server usage.
[02:40] <Pupeno> dylan_: I haven't tryed Ubuntu server, but the desktop is very robust and I spect the server will make a good server as well. In fact, I am eager to find a chance to try it.
[02:41] <bluey> for server purposes you don't need X though
[02:41] <teclo> Hello, there is no inetd running when I do ps aux. Is that normal ? Where is inetd/xinetd ?
[02:41] <dylan_> bluey, is it hard to run a Linux server without a GUI?
[02:42] <bluey> dylan_: it's pretty straight forward provided you can use the cli
[02:42] <[koji] > dylan_, i am using ubuntu right now for home server purpose
[02:42] <dylan_> [koji] , is it easier to manage than a Windows server?  How do you scroll up in the CLI ?
[02:42] <bluey> dylan_: you can run one with a gui if you like, it just uses more resources thats all
[02:42] <IdleOne> !tell dylan_ about cli
[02:43] <Azertyuuu> hey all, i have 1 DVDplayer and 1 CDrplayer, but there's always just one that's beeing recognised. somethimes the DVDplayer, and sometime the other, how come ?
[02:43] <NChief> !tell NChief about cli
[02:43] <bluey> dylan_: shift + up/down arrow keys
[02:43] <neuron> hey again :D
[02:43] <dylan_> bluey, thanks!
[02:44] <[koji] > dylan_, fairly easy (subjective to user's linux familiarity)
[02:44] <Torque> sd
[02:44] <neuron> whats the difference between ubuntu and kubuntu? except the graphical envoirement?
[02:44] <Pupeno> neuro_: none.
[02:44] <fyrestrtr> neuron: that's it. the graphical environment. nothing else.
[02:44] <bluey> dylan_: my bad, it's shift + up/down page keys
[02:44] <IdleOne> !ff1.5
[02:44] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[02:44] <neuron> okay, and if i want to install gnome, will there be any problems?
[02:45] <martyv> teclo, not used normally
[02:45] <IdleOne> neuro_, sudo apt-get install  ubuntu-desktop
[02:45] <dylan_> neuron, isnt ffx 1.5 unstable as heck?
[02:45] <sHaDe> RoSSI C !
[02:45] <fyrestrtr> neuron: just use the "normal" ubuntu, which comes with gnome.
[02:45] <Joris> Seveas, you still here, had a power issue (darn darn)
[02:45] <aanwezig_> hey
[02:45] <neuron> i dont realy like gnome, i hate its menu style, so i will install kubuntu
[02:45] <aanwezig_> zokm er leuke dames aanwezig?
[02:46] <neuron> but can i install gnome in kubuntu?
[02:46] <balduran> neuron
[02:46] <aanwezig_> hallo
[02:46] <Seveas> Joris, yes
[02:46] <balduran> neuron, yes with synaptic
[02:46] <Seveas> hi aanwezig_
[02:46] <aanwezig_> waar zijn die dames dan
[02:46] <mjr> neuron, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[02:46] <aanwezig_> ja zeg dan is wat
[02:46] <IdleOne> neuron, you can use gnome apps with kubuntu if thats what you mean
[02:46] <Seveas> aanwezig_, english only please
[02:46] <aanwezig_> +31641252883
[02:47] <Pupeno> neuro_: no, I recommend you to do apt-get install kubuntu-desktop or ubuntu-deskop
[02:47] <aanwezig_> call m
[02:47] <neuron> IdleOne: not realy, i`m trying some themes with gnome, i realy dont like its menu style, i like kde-s menu style
[02:47] <martyv> aanwezig_, #ubuntu-nl
[02:47] <IdleOne> neuro_, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop then will give you kde desktop and then if there are certain apps from gnowme you want use apt-get to install them
[02:48] <Jimmey__> How do I change my screen resolution?
[02:48] <dylan_> IdleOne, after I install kubuntu-desktop, why can't i remove kde?
[02:48] <new_to_linux1> !fstab
[02:48] <ubotu> the /etc/fstab  file lists all drives and partitions but can be easily configured automatically with the diskmounter file found here http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter  See <partitions>.
[02:48] <LogicalDash> OK , I've reconfigured kdm so that it's the default display manager, but the login screen still looks like the GNOME face browser.
[02:48] <Jimmey__> LogicalDash: sudo apt-get remove gdm
[02:48] <bluey> Jimmey_: system->preferences->screen resolution
[02:48] <Jimmey__> bluey, it only gives me one option
[02:48] <LogicalDash> Well I'm not sure I WANT to remove it...
[02:48] <IdleOne> dylan_, kubuntu-desktop is kde..unless I dont understand what you mean
[02:49] <neuro_> hey guys, if you're going to talk to neuron, can you please tab-complete his nick correctly? you keep setting off my nick detection with neuro and neuro_ :)))
[02:49] <bluey> Jimmey_: you probably need to setup your graphics card
[02:49] <neuron> heh :D
[02:49] <neuron> sorry neuro_
[02:49] <neuro_> np
[02:49] <neuro_> not your fault anyway :>
[02:49] <LogicalDash> Jimmey__, any way to do that without removing gdm entirely?
[02:50] <Jimmey__> LogicalDash, I've done it, but can't remember how, sorry
[02:50] <dylan_> IdleOne, after i install kubuntu-desktop, i cannot remove all of kubuntu....i have to kill each package manually.
[02:50] <IdleOne> dylan_, you are confusing me! you install kubuntu but want to remove kde?
[02:50] <bluey> dylan_: --purge switch
[02:52] <spliff> hello, i've lost sound in flash>firefox.. any ideas?
[02:52] <rungek> hi. when I do apt-get dist-upgrade (after chaning repositories from horay to breezy) it says that it is holding lots of backages back from upgrade. why? what should I do?
[02:52] <sfar> !tell spliff about flash
[02:52] <spliff> thanks
[02:52] <apokryphos> rungek: can you pastebin the full output?
[02:53] <neuron> is there any way of setting kde's default browser to firefox and not konqueror?
[02:53] <rungek> apokryphos yes, but its in swedish in some parts
[02:53] <apokryphos> rungek: please make sure you follow the proper instructions for upgrading. That is, /msg ubotu upgrade
[02:53] <apokryphos> rungek: that's alright
[02:53] <apokryphos> neuron: yes, from systemsettings
[02:53] <Jimmey__> How can I re-configure xorg
[02:53] <Jimmey__> I forget the command
[02:53] <sfar> neuron: system - prefs -> preffered applications
[02:53] <sfar> i think
[02:53] <apokryphos> Jimmey__: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:53] <neuron> okay, thanks :D
[02:54] <Jimmey__> Thanks
[02:54] <apokryphos> neuron: Component Chooser
[02:54] <neuron> what?
[02:54] <neuron> apokryphos: where can i find it?
[02:54] <apokryphos> neuro_: alt+f2 -> systemsettings. Then go to Component Chooser
[02:55] <neuron> okay
[02:55] <dylan_> IdleOne, it was hypothetical
[02:55] <dylan_> so i have to do apt-get --purge kde?
[02:55] <apokryphos> dylan_: to do what?
[02:55] <IdleOne> dylan_, sudo apt-get remove --purge kde
[02:55] <apokryphos> that won't do anything
[02:55] <apokryphos> kde is a metapackage
[02:56] <IdleOne> dylan_, I am still confused as to what and why you want to remove it if you just installed it
[02:56] <spliff> hmm that didnt really help
[02:56] <rungek> apokryphos  http://pastebin.com/647758
[02:56] <apokryphos> !metapackage
[02:56] <ubotu> A meta-package is a package that simply depends upon other packages and brings them in. It's not a real package, but a very useful package that can drag in other package versions.
[02:56] <alef0> Is there a way to tell fullscreen apps like quake4 to use only one of the heads in a twinview configuration consisting of two heads? e.g. quake3 works as I want (fullscreen on head 1, head 2 is blank), but quake4's fullscreen is placed in the middle between the two heads.
[02:56] <Lhademmor> Hello world. This is my first message from X-Chat in Ubuntu. I've just installed Ubuntu and got the Internet working.
[02:56] <Christopher> Hey everyone
[02:57] <neuron> where can i see ubuntu`s changelog?
[02:57] <apokryphos> rungek: is ubuntu-desktop installed?
[02:57] <neuron> !changelog
[02:57] <IdleOne> Lhademmor, welcome to Xchat and Ubuntu :)
[02:57] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, neuron
[02:57] <spliff> hey Lhademmor, welcome to ubuntu :)
[02:57] <rungek> Lhademmor nice :)
[02:57] <baua>  is there a dapper update for kernl 2.6.16?
[02:57] <neuron> baua: are you having problems with the current kernel?
[02:57] <IdleOne> !dapper
[02:57] <rungek> apokryphos yes, im running from gnome/xhat now
[02:57] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[02:58] <rungek> apokryphos or am I misunderstanding you?
[02:58] <Lhademmor> Thank you all :)
[02:58] <apokryphos> rungek: is the package, ubuntu-desktop, installed I mean
[02:58] <Christopher> Lhademmor, welcome to ubuntu!
[02:58] <Christopher> Hey guys I nee some help...I cant play mp3's
[02:58] <IdleOne> !mp3
[02:58] <ubotu> from memory, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:58] <Christopher> thanks idle
[02:58] <baua> neuron:no, but broadcom driver need 2.6.16
[02:59] <IdleOne> np
[02:59] <dylan_> IdleOne, it was hypothetical
[02:59] <Joris> Seveas, i've not got a good log-file availabe
[02:59] <zapata> dont seem to understand what nubuntu is, anyone knows?
[02:59] <rungek> apokryphos http://pastebin.com/647765 well, no
[02:59] <baua> and my usbstick isnt mounting automatically
[02:59] <IdleOne> dylan_, is what hypothetical?
[02:59] <apokryphos> rungek: you weren't following the proper installation instructions then :)
[02:59] <dylan_> IdleOne, meaning in the event that i would like to do that, i could....for future refernece.
[02:59] <apokryphos> !tell rungek about upgrade
[03:00] <rungek> apokryphos uhm, well no I guess not. though I have read the instruction after you told me to.
[03:00] <rungek> apokryphos it seams to be a simple change of repositories, unless im mistaken!?
[03:00] <IdleOne> dylan_, I still dont know what it is you are trying on doing if you do it at alll but I know this if you phrase your question a little more clearly I will try to answer you
[03:00] <apokryphos> rungek: it warns that you should have ubuntu-desktop before you upgrade otherwise things can break :)
[03:01] <dylan_> IdleOne, you have already answered my question.  Thank you
[03:01] <IdleOne> was it just me who doesnt know what just happened ?
[03:01] <rungek> apokryphos aha!, then im in the "things have broken"-part
[03:02] <sorush20_> guys I can't access yahoo mail beta I don't know how to ?
[03:02] <fggshdf> any dc++ package in ubuntu ?
[03:02] <apokryphos> rungek: indeed. You might be ok, still. Try installing it and then doing the dist-upgrade. Normally things could've been worse :)
[03:02] <IdleOne> apt-cache search dc++
[03:02] <rungek> apokryphos I can't install it, did you see the last pastebin?
[03:02] <baua> so is there a kernel package 2.6.16 available for ubuntu ?
[03:03] <fggshdf> IdleOne i knew that too .... but all i get its some other package not the one im looking for
[03:03] <apokryphos> rungek: has "no installation candidate" ?
[03:03] <rungek> apokryphos it said package not avalible, though there are packages depending on it
[03:03] <fggshdf> i want the dc++ the file sharing package
[03:03] <rungek> apokryphos http://pastebin.com/647765
[03:03] <martyv> baua, doubt it - apt-cache search 2.6.16
[03:03] <apokryphos> rungek: could you pastebin your sources.list?
[03:03] <rungek> apokryphos yes, not isntallation candidate
[03:04] <rungek> apokryphos sure *hoping he wont look like a fool again*
[03:04] <baua> martyv: yh, but maybe i need some special sources?
[03:04] <bluey> does anyone know where the keybindings for the sound keyboard shortcuts are stored?
[03:04] <gnomefreak> IdleOne: i think he was asking when he trys to remove --purge kubuntu-desktop he doesnt get all packages to go with it. answer if he used aptitude aptitude will remove most of packages with it and if he used apt-get he has to remove libqt3-mt
[03:05] <Joris> Seveas, can we have a  more privat chatrooom ?
[03:05] <Lhademmor> I'm extremely newbie at Linux but I think I'll add some "reposteries" and look if there's anything interesting to install.
[03:05] <fwed> hi, i've install ati driver but i already have mesa3d in opengl, someone know how can i install the ati driver ?
[03:05] <rungek> apokryphos http://pastebin.com/647773
[03:05] <apokryphos> rungek: you don't have the main repository which is...erm... vital :)
[03:05] <IdleOne> gnomefreak, what was confusing me is that he was asking how to install kde and then in the same question wanting to know how to remove it and I just woke up and my coffee needs more sugar in it and I was also having a sneezing fit lol
[03:06] <apokryphos> rungek: you're doing a hoary -> breezy upgrade?
[03:06] <gnomefreak> lol its all good ;)
[03:06] <rungek> apokryphos yes
[03:06] <bluey> fggshdf: valknut or microdc, the latter being a cli client
[03:07] <IdleOne> gnomefreak, he also mentioned he didnt like gnome look and feel so in any case I think he said I answered his question so lol
[03:07] <apokryphos> rungek: erase what's in the current sources.list and enter    deb http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted universe multiverse
[03:07] <Lhademmor> wow, looks like a lot of libraries need updating..
[03:07] <apokryphos> rungek: then add the other appropriate lines for breezy-security/backports/updates
[03:08] <ubuntu_> test
[03:08] <IdleOne> pass
[03:08] <Christopher> Thanks a bunch idleone! I got mp3s to play
[03:08] <IdleOne> Christopher, :)
[03:08] <Christopher> You rock
[03:08] <IdleOne> haha
[03:08] <Christopher> brb
[03:08] <IdleOne> Christopher, the person who wrote the wiki rocks but thanks :)
[03:08] <Christopher> np
[03:08] <Christopher> brb
[03:08] <fggshdf> bluey any gnome one ?
[03:08] <apokryphos> rungek: an example sources.list: (you can use this one)
[03:08] <apokryphos> !sources.list
[03:08] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[03:09] <apokryphos> rungek: you can just use the one for Breezy, that is.
[03:09] <bluey> fggshdf: possibly, check out gnome apps website
[03:09] <muffin_> !easysource
[03:09] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[03:09] <bluey> fggshdf: http://gnomefiles.org/
[03:10] <rungek> apokryphos ok, thanks.
[03:11] <apokryphos> rungek: once you've changed it, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:11] <Joris> aanwezig_ : de moderator vraag of je enkel engels wil gebruiken op dit forum (english only please)
[03:11] <Joris> aanwezig_ : de moderator vraag of je enkel engels wil gebruiken op dit forum (english only please)
[03:12] <neuron> where does gaim keep its alias entries?
[03:12] <Joris> anyone had any issues with usb sticks on ubuntu getting trashed, hanging the machine ?
[03:12] <bluey> !keybindings
[03:12] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, bluey
[03:12] <Lhademmor> The wiki is really neat!
[03:12] <neuron> !ubuntu
[03:12] <bluey> !sound keyboard shortcuts
[03:12] <ubotu> rumour has it, ubuntu is a free GNU/Linux distribution. More at http://www.ubuntu.com and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarkShuttleworth
[03:12] <ubotu> bluey: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:12] <aajaj> good morning all
[03:12] <IdleOne> !fishing
[03:12] <ubotu> from memory, fishing is randomly throwing !commands in the channel instead of using /msg ubotu command. Please dont fish for help. either !ask in the channel or msg ubotu < Knows Everything!> :)
[03:13] <aajaj> i just finished my setup for ubuntu
[03:13] <aajaj> and whanted to know
[03:13] <AkiraYuki> hi all
[03:13] <Lhademmor> Morning, aajaj? Over here its 5:13 PM :)
[03:13] <aajaj> it says that the kernel i386
[03:13] <Joris> anyone had any issues with usb sticks on ubuntu getting trashed, hanging the machine ? (private chat pls)
[03:13] <aajaj> ya u know ...  we live all over the world ;) and we never sleep :)
[03:14] <Joris> !ask anyone had any issues with usb sticks on ubuntu getting trashed, hanging the machine ? (private chat pls)
[03:14] <ubotu> I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, Joris
[03:14] <bluey> IdleOne: :)
[03:14] <aajaj> my question is: i have a p4 2.6 - should i do the kernel upgrade to the i686
[03:14] <CurtisB>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY retsyo13
[03:14] <Joris> ubotu, this is my virgin-moment on irc
[03:14] <ubotu> Joris: what are you talking about?
[03:14] <CurtisB> doh!
[03:14] <neuron> heh CurtisB
[03:14] <Joris> i've used ubuntu on ibm wich trashed my usb-stick twice
[03:14] <IdleOne> !tell Joris about bot
[03:14] <aajaj> my target is to make it a htpc
[03:15] <neuron> !bot
[03:15] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[03:15] <IdleOne> CurtisB, :) no space
[03:15] <Joris> thanks, just found out
[03:15] <Joris> !bot ???
[03:15] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[03:15] <rungek> apokryphos http://pastebin.com/647783
[03:16] <neuron> !play with bot
[03:16] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, neuron
[03:16] <Joris> bot ?????????????
[03:16] <Joris> dont dont dont like reading manuals
[03:16] <Joris> on a bot
[03:16] <fwed> anyone can help me to configure my ati card ?
[03:16] <ompaul> Joris, your not it gives you urls that are your friends
[03:16] <Apostle^> !ati
[03:16] <ubotu> ati is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[03:16] <apokryphos> Joris: a lot of the time that'll be hard-luck -- you won't find many people wanting to help you if you're not willing to help yourself.
[03:17] <IdleOne> !tell fwed about ati
[03:17] <apokryphos> rungek: and indeed, those are the problems :)
[03:17] <ompaul> !attitude
[03:17] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Please be aware there are a lot of questions, but only maybe few who might know the answer for you. Please be patient. Your attitude may determine their willingness to help you.
[03:17] <Joris> !usb
[03:17] <ubotu> Joris: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:17] <Joris> !ask usb
[03:17] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Joris
[03:17] <apokryphos> rungek: what's the output of cat /etc/issue ?
[03:17] <Joris> !ask flash
[03:17] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Joris
[03:17] <IdleOne> !tell Joris about fishing
[03:17] <apokryphos> jordo23: do not play with the bot in here
[03:17] <CurtisB> okay, I doubt anyone will try to steel my nick to defame me, but uhm, as a IRC plebian, how do I change my password?
[03:18] <rungek> Hbuntu 5.04 "Hoary Hedgehog"
[03:18] <Killgore_> does rythmbox support gapless playback???
[03:18] <aajaj> anyone here has dvb running ontheir machine ??
[03:18] <IdleOne> CurtisB, /msg nickserv password help
[03:18] <apokryphos> rungek: hm, since you didn't have main enabled earlier it might be possible to reinstall hoary's ubuntu-desktop, and then try to upgrade.
[03:18] <CurtisB> thanks!
[03:18] <Killgore_> i just answered my own question
[03:18] <bluey> ubotu listkeys bind
[03:18] <ubotu> Factoid search of 'bind' by key (1 shown): keybinding.
[03:18] <rungek> apokryphos I wo
[03:19] <apokryphos> ?
[03:19] <rungek> apokryphos I will try it. thanks
[03:19] <Trae> heh
[03:19] <Trae> people looove to tinker
[03:19] <rungek> typing while eating :(
[03:19] <apokryphos> rungek: you'll need to change your sources.list back to hoary ones, then try installing ubuntu-desktop. LMK how it goes.
[03:19] <bluey> !keybinding
[03:19] <ubotu> keybinding is, like, totally, console command  "gnome-keybinding-properties"    Need more info  https://wiki.ubuntu.com//MultimediaKeys
[03:19] <Trae> jdub: you here?
[03:19] <CurtisB> IdleOne it says unknown command password
[03:19] <bluey> nice :)
[03:19] <bluey> thanks bot :P
[03:20] <IdleOne> CurtisB, /msg nickserv help DROP and then REGISTER
[03:20] <Frogzoo> Trae: use rss-glx anyhow - all the stock ones suk
[03:21] <Trae> now you haveto wait a minute before testing
[03:21] <Trae> Frogzoo: heh
[03:21] <CurtisB> okay, thanks again
[03:22] <Cerius> hi
[03:22] <Cerius> german ubnutu link pls
[03:23] <AkiraYuki> where can I find the fedora icons for ubuntu?
[03:23] <s-ndh-c> hi
[03:23] <Frogzoo> !themes
[03:23] <Frogzoo> !tell AkiraYuki about themes
[03:23] <fyrestrtr> !de
[03:23] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de
[03:23] <neuron> !kde themes
[03:23] <ubotu> neuron: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:23] <s-ndh-c> why has win32codecs been removed from the repo?
[03:23] <AkiraYuki> !themes
[03:23] <Trae> Frogzoo: what do you have to do to get it to show up?
[03:23] <_jason> ubotu: tell s-ndh-c about w32codecs
[03:23] <Cerius> join #ubuntu-de
[03:23] <Trae> Frogzoo: I've apt-get installed it
[03:23] <Lhademmor> What is the difference between Applications > Add Application and Synaptic? Is it that Synaptic is regarding individual packages while Add Applications is about whole programs?
[03:24] <Frogzoo> Trae: the longer bot msgs don't appear in chan
[03:24] <Cerius> \join #ubuntu-de
[03:24] <apokryphos> Lhademmor: yes; it's an easy-install app
[03:24] <neuron> where can i find a .deb for gaim2 ?
[03:24] <Cerius> help meto go german ubuntu
[03:24] <Lhademmor> Ok. Thank you
[03:24] <Frogzoo> Trae: you need to edit a config file - it's explained in /usr/share/docs/rss-glx there somewhere
[03:24] <s-ndh-c> i tried unpacking the tarball from mplyerhq but that doesnt seem to work
[03:24] <Joris> !tell Joris about themes
[03:24] <apokryphos> Cerius: type /j #ubuntu-de
[03:24] <s-ndh-c> i still cant play wma files
[03:25] <Draconicus> When I try to put it in fullscreen mode, the Blursk plugin for XMMS complains that I don't have XFree86, which I don't. However, I know it can work with X.Org, because I've done it with Gentoo. What can I do to make it work?
[03:25] <apokryphos> s-ndh-c: amaroK supports wmas
[03:25] <IdleOne> !tell s-ndh-c about w32codecs
[03:25] <Frogzoo> Trae: would you believe ~/.xscreensaver
[03:25] <fyrestrtr> Lhademmor: no, they are both for the same purpose.
[03:25] <neuron> how can i remove the nvidia intro-image after i installed nvidia drivers?
[03:25] <Cerius> i hae a prolem wight wirlees lan siemens
[03:25] <fyrestrtr> Lhademmor: proof is that you can't have Synaptic running, and then launch Add Applications :)
[03:26] <apokryphos> fyrestrtr: they're really not. It's not a duplication of effort.
[03:26] <_jason> s-ndh-c: check your private messages from ubotu for a w32codecs deb
[03:26] <AkiraYuki> Frogzoo i don't undersood
[03:26] <Trae> Frogzoo: yeah, I ran rss-glx_install
[03:26] <Lhademmor> Oh, it's using this "apt-get" or "aptitude" stuff?
[03:26] <AkiraYuki> understod*
[03:26] <apokryphos> Lhademmor: nope
[03:27] <Lhademmor> But apt-get is a command that doesn't basically the same as Synaptic?
[03:27] <fyrestrtr> Lhademmor: no, Synaptics is a front-end to apt
[03:27] <s-ndh-c> _jason: yeah iam trying this atm
[03:27] <_jason> neuron: add the following to your xorg.conf under the device section for your nvidia card:    Option          "NoLogo"
[03:27] <rungek> apokryphos http://pastebin.com/647794, this is what I get. IE faild
[03:27] <Lhademmor> I meant "does"
[03:27] <edward_> hi
[03:27] <IdleOne> !tell Lhademmor abouit apt
[03:27] <IdleOne> !tell Lhademmor about apt
[03:27] <Frogzoo> Trae: cool - log out/back in & you're in business
[03:27] <Joris> s-ndh-c : use mplayer with w32codecs in addition
[03:27] <Lhademmor> Wow. Cool bot
[03:27] <AkiraYuki> !themes
[03:27] <neuron> heh , rpm=relaxing porm movie :))))
[03:27] <edward_> i have heard that there is a newer version of ubuntu, but i cannot find it on thw ebsite
[03:27] <johnny_brasil> hi peoples
[03:27] <neuron> porn*
[03:27] <rungek> !easysource
[03:27] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[03:27] <_jason> !dapper
[03:27] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[03:27] <johnny_brasil> porno
[03:27] <Frogzoo> AkiraYuki: have a look around the sites they mention, you might find something similar to FC
[03:27] <fyrestrtr> Lhademmor: I guess Add Applications is a more filtered down version of Synaptic, in that the only applications you can add there are gnome-specific.
[03:28] <johnny_brasil> porn
[03:28] <johnny_brasil> fuck
[03:28] <edward_> version 6 apparently, how can i upgrade from 5.10 to the new version
[03:28] <IdleOne> !ops
[03:28] <Joris> !kernel
[03:28] <ubotu> Help! lilo, fabbione, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee
[03:28] <apokryphos> rungek: try sudo apt-get remove cupsys cupsys-driver-gimpprint xpdf, and then retry
[03:28] <johnny_brasil> ow...this is a secure server no?hauhauaha
[03:28] <DBO> bye bye
[03:28] <_jason> heh
[03:28] <s-ndh-c> wow, i upgraded to dapper with no problems
[03:28] <s-ndh-c> amazing
[03:28] <s-ndh-c> :P
[03:28] <riomerc> hi
[03:28] <riomerc> I need help!
[03:28] <DBO> whats your problem?
[03:28] <IdleOne> riomerc, ask away
[03:28] <Lhademmor> Thank you for the clarification :). I'm well on my way to understanding Linux
[03:28] <edward_> how did you upgrade ?
[03:29] <fyrestrtr> riomerc: we are not wizards with magic balls, tell us your problem.
[03:29] <s-ndh-c> i can remember that version upgrades failed allmost everytime on suse hehe
[03:29] <riomerc> I'm trying to install nethack onto ubuntu
[03:29] <edward_> i'd like to upgrade today
[03:29] <apokryphos> edward_: /msg ubotu upgrade
[03:29] <Joris> hi, anything better then x-chat ?
[03:29] <Killgore_> no
[03:29] <rungek> apokryphos nope, it wont work
[03:29] <riomerc> but it seems to be inpossible to untar the package
[03:29] <Killgore_> XCHAT FTW
[03:29] <apokryphos> Joris: yes. I recommend KVirc
[03:29] <fyrestrtr> Joris: depends what you mean by 'better'. I like irssi myself.
[03:29] <Frogzoo> Joris: irssi but it's text based
[03:29] <IdleOne> Lhademmor, if you do /msg ubotu searchterm it probably will return a answer that can help you or try wiki.ubuntu.com/searchterm
[03:29] <Killgore_> Joris: what dont you like about xchat?
[03:29] <fyrestrtr> Frogzoo: IRC is text-based :P
[03:30] <Joris> don't care for graph vs text, has to be functionally unimpaired
[03:30] <Frogzoo> fyrestrtr: I hadn't noticed ...
[03:30] <apokryphos> fyrestrtr: indeed, but many GUI features are friendlier and can come in more handy.
[03:30] <Joris> gaim ?
[03:30] <Lhademmor> Will do.
[03:30] <Apostle^> Frogzoo: lol\
[03:30] <riomerc> um
[03:30] <fyrestrtr> Joris: what do you find lacking in xchat?
[03:30] <simonpca> Joris: Xchat is still good, KVirc is more complete, erc is for emacs-fans[.el] , Gaim is if you have serval messaging service
[03:30] <fyrestrtr> apokryphos: yes, but I know some people that argue bash is GUI :)
[03:30] <rungek> emacs! emacs!!
[03:30] <MacTel> heh
[03:31] <fyrestrtr> oh no lol
[03:31] <apokryphos> geh
[03:31] <neuron> !wtf
[03:31] <ubotu> the INETRNET DAMNIT try freshmeat.net, linuxapps.com and tucows.com and then winge at /dev/null
[03:31] <riomerc> Um... I really need help
[03:31] <apokryphos> vi all-the-way
[03:31] <MacTel>  8-)
[03:31] <Joris> uhm, me being impatient, it seems
[03:31] <fyrestrtr> LMAO @ ubotu
[03:31] <fyrestrtr> ubotu: botsnack
[03:31] <ubotu> :)
[03:31] <Joris> filtering of msg, panned windows
[03:31] <neuron> !blootbot
[03:31] <_jason> !forget wtf
[03:31] <ubotu> i didn't have anything called 'wtf', _jason
[03:31] <IdleOne> neuron, stop spamming the channel please
[03:31] <Cerius> i have a problem wight wlan pcim
[03:31] <riomerc> wtf!
[03:31] <Seveas> !unforget wtf
[03:32] <neuron> okay, sorry
[03:32] <ubotu> Seveas: Successfully recovered 'wtf'.  Have fun now.
[03:32] <rungek> apokryphos about my problem, im tosted eh?
[03:32] <freakabcd> hi all
[03:32] <Seveas> (please keep it around for a sec)
[03:32] <freakabcd> how do i update using dpkg?
[03:32] <apokryphos> rungek: did you try what I said?
[03:32] <freakabcd> i have a newer deb downloaded
[03:32] <neuron> is ubotu a blootbot?
[03:32] <fyrestrtr> Cerius: was it working with the livecd?
[03:32] <riomerc> how do I properly install nethack in ubuntu
[03:32] <Joris> grudg, grudge, what's up with usb and usbsticks anyway ? data corrupted each time ... automounting sucks ?
[03:32] <freakabcd> do i just dpkg -i new.deb ?
[03:32] <rungek> apokryphos yes, it says they are not installed
[03:32] <apokryphos> freakabcd: yes
[03:32] <freakabcd> or do i remove the old one first?
[03:32] <freakabcd> apokryphos, thanks
[03:32] <riomerc> hi?
[03:32] <apokryphos> rungek: you're into dependency hell. This is the exact problems you'll get when people don't make sure they have that package first =)
[03:32] <Cerius> driver ist alocatet af not troufe te sever
[03:33] <Lhademmor> Anyone here who can recommend a good BitTorrent-application for Ubuntu?
[03:33] <fyrestrtr> Joris: it has something to do with syncing -- I forgot where I read about it ... something that with the newer kernels, you need to manually turn *off* async or something.
[03:33] <Seveas> !forget wtf
[03:33] <ubotu> i forgot wtf, Seveas
[03:33] <fyrestrtr> Joris: I will try to look it up.
[03:33] <riomerc> um..
[03:33] <Seveas> !forget only problem i see
[03:33] <ubotu> i forgot only problem i see, Seveas
[03:33] <riomerc> someone?
[03:33] <Seveas> !forget problem
[03:33] <Cerius> i have kumuntu
[03:33] <ubotu> i forgot problem, Seveas
[03:33] <Loevborg> Guys, does anyone know the problem that files clicked in nautilus aren't run? How can I "debug" the problem?
[03:33] <freakabcd> damn, i've got aiglx + compiz working on a frickin i810 !
[03:33] <Seveas> !forget >ubotu clueless
[03:33] <Cin> Does gnome-terminal and konsole copy the main system console's colour settings?
[03:33] <rungek> apokryphos now, my mother will demand windows back! (dont worry, I will fight to my last breath!)
[03:33] <ubotu> Seveas: i forgot >ubotu clueless
[03:33] <freakabcd> and its smooth!
[03:33] <apokryphos> Lhademmor: azureus, bittornado, ktorrent
[03:33] <apokryphos> Seveas: /msg  ;-)
[03:33] <Seveas> !forget relatedtopic
[03:33] <ubotu> Seveas: i forgot relatedtopic
[03:33] <Seveas> !forget ubuntu only
[03:33] <ubotu> i forgot ubuntu only, Seveas
[03:33] <Loevborg> I want to view a video with mplayer.
[03:33] <Joris> grmbl, scsi (0:0 : rejecting i/o to dead device
[03:33] <fyrestrtr> rungek: get her an intel mac :)
[03:33] <Seveas> apokryphos, just showing that the bot needs a lobotomy FAST
[03:33] <Joris> aaargh
[03:33] <mdke> can anyone tell me what package I need to file a bug on if I want to complain about the names mounted partitions are given on the desktop?
[03:33] <_jason> Loevborg: is it not working?
[03:33] <Joris> brandnew
[03:34] <rungek> fyrestrtr hehe
[03:34] <Lhademmor> I've used Azureus before on Windows so I think I'll stick with it (Azureus obviously!)
[03:34] <IdleOne> neuron, see what Seveas is doing ? next he is going to instruct the bot to forget you also :P
[03:34] <apokryphos> Seveas: ok, but don't show us too much :P
[03:34] <riomerc> I want to install nethack but i'm having troubles
[03:34] <MacTel>  :p
[03:34] <neuron> nooo
[03:34] <_jason> riomerc: what troubles
[03:34] <MenZa> Can I comment certain parts of my xorg.conf with #?
[03:34] <fyrestrtr> mdke: I suppose the main package of the wm you are using.
[03:34] <apokryphos> MenZa: yes
[03:34] <Loevborg> _jason, I can view it just fine when running mplayer in a terminal, but not thru nautlius
[03:34] <neuron> i`m the bots best friend, why should ite forget me? :D
[03:34] <MenZa> Goody,t hanks apokryphos.
[03:34] <riomerc> My terminal isn't responding to my tgz file
[03:34] <fyrestrtr> MenZa: yes
[03:34] <neuron> it*
[03:34] <CurtisB> riomerc did you try installing with synaptic package manager?
[03:34] <Cerius> www.ubutusers.de not funkton
[03:34] <riomerc> ah!
[03:34] <Seveas> !forget neuron
[03:34] <riomerc> but of course
[03:34] <ubotu> i didn't have anything called 'neuron', Seveas
[03:34] <mdke> fyrestrtr, I use GNOME, but I don't think that can be the right answer.
[03:34] <_jason> Loevborg: are you using mplayer or gmplayer in each case?
[03:34] <neuron> !dont ever forget me you bot
[03:35] <ubotu> neuron: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:35] <riomerc> uh...
[03:35] <riomerc> wait
[03:35] <neuron> :(
[03:35] <apokryphos> neuron: please don't be annoying :)
[03:35] <_jason> riomerc: nethack is in the repositories
[03:35] <fyrestrtr> hey stop molesting the bot
[03:35] <riomerc> where?
[03:35] <apokryphos> !botabuse
[03:35] <_jason> !info nethack
[03:35] <ubotu> You can play with me in /msg or #debian-bots without being banned.
[03:35] <ubotu> nethack: (Overhead dungeon-crawler game (dummy package)), section universe/games, is optional. Version: 3.4.3-7ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 17 kB, Installed size: 48 kB
[03:35] <neuron> okay
[03:35] <_jason> ubotu: tell riomerc about universe
[03:35] <Frogzoo> riomerc: sudo apt-get install nethack-x11 nethack-common
[03:36] <CurtisB> ubotu: tell CurtisB about ubotu
[03:36] <robokop> can i setup grub so that i mount an iso an boot from it
[03:36] <Apostle^> who owns ubotu anyway
[03:36] <fyrestrtr> personally, I can't wait till someone figures out (or heck, even Apple) how to triple boot Intel macs. That would be ... by all means ... The Awesomeness(tm)
[03:36] <riomerc> thansk for the universe thing
[03:36] <kbrooks> Apostle^: cafuego
[03:36] <riomerc> heh
[03:36] <fyrestrtr> robokop: no
[03:36] <riomerc> cya
[03:36] <Frogzoo> Apostle^: I'm guessing canonical
[03:36] <CurtisB> ubotu: tell CurtisB about universe
[03:36] <riomerc> mucho gracias
[03:37] <_jason> ubotu: who owns you
[03:37] <ubotu> cafuego
[03:37] <kbrooks> Frogzoo: cafuego
[03:37] <ljoris_> ?
[03:37] <neuron> hmm.... is ubotu a blootbot?
[03:37] <apokryphos> yes
[03:37] <Apostle^> isn't apple ditching OSX ?
[03:37] <kbrooks> Apostle^: no.
[03:37] <ljoris_> fyrestrtr : what you looking up ?
[03:37] <neuron> okay, thanks
[03:37] <fyrestrtr> Apostle^: ermm, no.
[03:37] <Apostle^> ah
[03:38] <fyrestrtr> ljoris_: ?
[03:38] <kbrooks> Apostle^: were did u get that from
[03:38] <ljoris_> fyrestrtr : related to my usb post
[03:38] <Apostle^> kbrooks: dunno
[03:38] <neuron> isnt M$ dumping windows?
[03:38] <Apostle^> yea
[03:38] <Apostle^> they are
[03:38] <fyrestrtr> ljoris_: oh that, I read it in one of the Linux mags, forgot which edition though. Let me google it for you.
[03:38] <neuron> thats more like it :D
[03:38] <Cerius> wat kannic make vor the wlan funktion
[03:38] <nathanj> can anyone enlighten me on how to send net send messages>?
[03:39] <ljoris_> ljoris = joris
[03:39] <topal> hallo
[03:39] <kbrooks> neuron: they r not dumping windows
[03:39] <Lhademmor> !linux
[03:39] <ubotu> rumour has it, linux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Ubuntu is only one version of the GNU/Linux operating system. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
[03:39] <neuron> kbrooks: why not?? :((
[03:39] <kbrooks> neuron: because. thats why.
[03:39] <Lhademmor> !free software
[03:39] <ubotu> Lhademmor: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:39] <Killgore_> lol
[03:39] <Lhademmor> lol
[03:40] <neuron> dang
[03:40] <Apostle^> Lhademmor: this is linux everythign is free
[03:40] <neuron> the should
[03:40] <Killgore_> free software obviously doesnt exist if ubotu doesnt know about ti
[03:40] <Trae> ok..
[03:40] <Trae> my cable isn'tworking
[03:40] <apokryphos> Lhademmor: please investigate in /msg
[03:40] <kbrooks> i'd like a long list of free software
[03:40] <Lhademmor> I know
[03:40] <Trae> hhmmm
[03:40] <apokryphos> Apostle^: not everything, but most, yes ;-)
[03:40] <Trae> heh
[03:40] <Trae> anyone ever made a cat5 cable that actually tested out ok, but didn't work?
[03:40] <neuron> Apostle^: yeah right.. :D
[03:40] <IdleOne> Lhademmor, packages.ubuntu.com
[03:40] <Apostle^> apokryphos: 99% :-)
[03:40] <kbrooks> Killgore_:  it exists
[03:40] <apokryphos> kbrooks: check the stuff that ubuntu installs
[03:40] <neuron> Apostle^: free as cedega? :D
[03:40] <kbrooks> Killgore_:  factoids are factoids.
[03:40] <Trae> I've got a cable tester, and it shows the cable's pins areall setup properly
[03:40] <Apostle^> cedega sucks
[03:40] <Apostle^> and you can get it for free
[03:40] <Trae> I've made like... hundreds of cables before
[03:40] <Killgore_> Apostle^: cedega for gaming? or wine
[03:41] <Loevborg> _jason, I'm not sure if it's gmplayer
[03:41] <kbrooks> Apostle^: cedega-cvs, yes
[03:41] <kbrooks> !cedega
[03:41] <neuron> Apostle^: yeah some pitifull fu**ed up version :D, veter use wine :D
[03:41] <Frogzoo> kbrooks: apt-cache search 'free_software'
[03:41] <neuron> better*
[03:41] <Trae> hmm
[03:41] <ljoris_> fyrestrtr : usb kernel : i/o to dead device after using automount
[03:41] <kbrooks> neuron: its not messed up. language
[03:41] <_jason> Loevborg: when you setup mplayer as the default application in nautilus did you have to type in 'mplayer' as the command, or did you just select Mplayer from the list?
[03:41] <Trae> can you get a whole bad spool of cat5 cable?
[03:41] <Trae> heh
[03:41] <kbrooks> !tell neuron about language
[03:41] <Trae> stupid questions abound this morning huh?
[03:41] <Killgore_> neuron: wine is better then
[03:41] <Apostle^> i do all my gaming on a commodore 64
[03:42] <neuron> thanks for the tip ubotu ;) i`ll watch my language, sorry
[03:42] <CurtisB> c64, wow, high-tech... I use pencil & paper
[03:42] <kbrooks> neuron: er
[03:42] <kbrooks> neuron: i sent that tip
[03:42] <kbrooks> neuron: ubotu is a bot
[03:42] <ompaul> !enter
[03:42] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[03:42] <Frogzoo> ubotu gets all the credit :p
[03:43] <ubotu> Frogzoo: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:43] <kbrooks> neuron: "us" = the channel.
[03:43] <Loevborg> _jason, you were right in your suspicion
[03:43] <neuron> thank you kbrooks then :D
[03:43] <kbrooks> ompaul: who me i tend to.
[03:43] <Cerius> ich habe an siemens 11bms
[03:43] <Killgore_> CurtisB: pen and paper still rules
[03:43] <ompaul> !de
[03:43] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de
[03:43] <neuron> i was joking :D
[03:43] <_jason> Loevborg: k, does 'gmplayer /path/to/file' work in a terminal?
[03:43] <neuron> !ro
[03:43] <ubotu> neuron: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:43] <Loevborg> _jason, I used mplayer in the terminal, but gmplayer in nautilus
[03:43] <DBO> i love that one
[03:43] <Loevborg> _jason, I fixed it now, it didnt find the default skin
[03:44] <DBO> !windmill
[03:44] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, DBO
[03:44] <_jason> Loevborg: ah ok, cool
[03:44] <DBO> awww
[03:44] <Loevborg> _jason, thanks for un-blocking me
[03:44] <Loevborg> _jason, although it would be handy to see console output of programs run in nautilus somewhere
[03:45] <ompaul> DBO the bot is not for playing with and its not really a good thing to do in front of 680+ logged into the channel, if we all did it there would be no help
[03:45] <_jason> Loevborg: you can have it open a terminal and run mplayer somehow I am sure
[03:45] <DBO> ompaul, Im sorry...  I know better...
[03:45] <Apostle^> would it be possible to make a script and add it to nautilus to right click a file and upload it to a ftp site automagically
[03:45] <ompaul> DBO, hmm don't tempt me then :-)
[03:45] <IdleOne> Apostle^, yes
[03:45] <fyrestrtr> Loevborg: I think your problem might be with file associations. Try right clicking the file, and then choose Run with, or open with, or whatever sounds close.
[03:45] <Apostle^> IdleOne: what would something like that look like
[03:45] <ompaul> DBO, there is #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:46] <IdleOne> Apostle^, I have absolutely no clue but it is possible
[03:46] <_jason> Apostle^: check http://g-scripts.sourceforge.net/
[03:46] <Apostle^> _jason: yea just found that, thanks
[03:46] <fyrestrtr> Apostle^: why don't you add the location? That way i'll just show up.
[03:46] <DBO> ompaul, Im quite aware of that channel
[03:46] <Loevborg> fyrestrt.. thanks, I found the issue
[03:46] <fyrestrtr> Apostle^: as another drive.
[03:46] <Apostle^> fyrestrt1: hmm through connect to server?
[03:46] <rob_> hey
[03:47] <fyrestrtr> Apostle^: yeah, I've used that before. Worked amazingly well.
[03:47] <acid-trip> evening guys
[03:47] <Apostle^> fyrestrt1: and then i could just right click send to?
[03:47] <Christopher> I removed the recycling bin from the panel
[03:47] <IdleOne> morning acid-trip
[03:47] <acid-trip> with ubuntu does it work nicely with ntfs now?
[03:47] <Christopher> how do i get it back
[03:47] <fyrestrtr> Apostle^: I don't know about right click, but surely you can just drag it :)
[03:47] <IdleOne> !tell acid-trip about ntfs
[03:47] <ompaul> acid-trip, it reads not writes
[03:47] <DBO> Christopher, right click on the panel -> add to panel -> trash
[03:47] <Christopher> ok
[03:47] <Christopher> thanks
[03:47] <Krhis> Christopher, right click the panel, Click Add to Panel, click trash.
[03:48] <Krhis> O.o
[03:48] <acid-trip> IdleOne, can i like copy and paste from ntfs?
[03:48] <Apostle^> fyrestrt1: thanks mate
[03:48] <DBO> acid-trip, yes
[03:48] <gnomefreak> acid-trip: should be able to
[03:48] <Christopher> there is no add to panel option
[03:48] <fyrestrtr> Apostle^: and Send To.. is something from Evolution. You can only send to an email address.
[03:48] <IdleOne> acid-trip, yes I believe you can copy from ntfs but not to
[03:48] <Krhis> Christopher, what are you right clicking?
[03:48] <DBO> Christopher, did your right click on the panel or your desktop?
[03:48] <Christopher> panel
[03:48] <Apostle^> fyrestrtr: ahh
[03:48] <Frogzoo> !tell acid-trip about captive
[03:48] <Christopher> and yes i did right click
[03:49] <gnomefreak> Christopher: if you right click the upper p[anel in gnome it will
[03:49] <fyrestrtr> acid-trip: you can copy, read, browse -- everything but delete or write.
[03:49] <Frogzoo> captive can write ntfs, but you need an M$ driver
[03:49] <DBO> Christopher, very first option
[03:49] <Christopher> oh ok
[03:49] <Christopher> I found i
[03:49] <Christopher> t
[03:49] <Christopher> I was clicking on the bottom panel
[03:49] <DBO> gnomefreak, any panel will
[03:49] <Krhis> This why I prefer CLI....
[03:49] <Stormx2> Hey guys what would I use to connect to a VNC server?
[03:49] <fyrestrtr> Stormx2: a vnc client :)
[03:49] <gnomefreak> DBO: should
[03:49] <Frogzoo> Krhis: terminal server applet
[03:49] <Stormx2> fyrestrtr: such as?
[03:49] <neuron> i tried upgrading to breezy synaptic gave me a error, i restarted the box, and now, gnome or kde wont starrt
[03:50] <fyrestrtr> Stormx2: Applications -> Internet -> Terminal Server Client
[03:50] <L28> Hi, Firefox loads  pages really slow... Espicially pictures, i got nvidia drivers installed. What might be the problem?
[03:50] <Stormx2> fyrestrtr: not there.
[03:50] <fyrestrtr> L28: might want to upgrade firefox, or your connection.
[03:50] <gnomefreak> L28: its pango if your on dapper
[03:50] <Apostle^> where would nautilus scripts go/
[03:50] <jim_u> Hey, i can setup ldap authentication in a heartbeat on gentoo, but i'm new to it on ubuntu. i've been following some documentation but for some reason when i try to test the connection to the ldap server with ldapsearch it just hangs waiting.. and no matter what i set the debug level to it doesn't display anything... any idea?
[03:51] <Krhis> L28, do you have another computer (or OS) to test your connection?
[03:51] <acid-trip> IdleOne, does wine work better under ubuntu?
[03:51] <L28> Its not my connection.
[03:51] <gnomefreak> Apostle^: ~/.nautilus/scripts   or something like that it says it on that page
[03:51] <L28> And firefox is up to date. I read somewhere that the graphic-driver migth be the problem
[03:51] <Krhis> So you know it's Ubuntu or Firefox?
[03:51] <gnomefreak> L28: are you on dapper?
[03:51] <Apostle^> gnomefreak: thanks
[03:51] <gnomefreak> Apostle^: anytime
[03:51] <L28> Dapper? I don't think so ^^
[03:51] <neuron> is there a .deb for gimp 2 ?
[03:52] <fyrestrtr> Stormx2: type 'xvncviewer' in a terminal windo
[03:52] <_jason> Apostle^: ~/.gnome2/nautilus-scripts works
[03:52] <gnomefreak> L28: if you type uname -r what is the output?
[03:52] <Apostle^> _jason: thanks
[03:52] <ezech> hi
[03:52] <L28> 2.6.12-10 amd63-generic
[03:52] <gnomefreak> neuron: should be and if ther eis you may find it on gimps site
[03:52] <fyrestrtr> jim_u: first steps -- can you ping the server? are the ports open?
[03:52] <L28> gnomefreak amd 64*
[03:53] <vividhaze> Hello, could someone help me?  I am stuck trying to install Ubuntu :(
[03:53] <Stormx2> fyrestrtr: That's rubbish. I hit OK and it just freezes.
[03:53] <gnomefreak> L28: are we talking FF1.5?
[03:53] <DBO> vividhaze, where are you stuck?
[03:53] <fyrestrtr> Stormx2: don't know why its not in your gnome application menu, its installed by default on mine.
[03:53] <fyrestrtr> Stormx2: just install it via apt-get/synaptic
[03:53] <vividhaze> I let Ubuntu do what its doing and when it tells me to take out CD and reboot, and gets to GRUB bit.
[03:53] <L28> gnomefreak 1.0.7
[03:53] <vividhaze> it just says error 22.
[03:53] <Stormx2> fyrestrtr: Install what, tsclient?
[03:53] <redguy> vividhaze: somebody probably will as soon as you tell us what your problem is
[03:53] <Stormx2> I have that now, but it does the same thing
[03:53] <neuron> where does gimp keep your its aliases?
[03:53] <Stormx2> After I click "connect" the box goes away and nothing happens.
[03:54] <Apostle^> _jason: after i copy the scripts in their anything i need to do?
[03:54] <Krhis> 1.0.7 is not the latest.
[03:54] <fyrestrtr> Stormx2: yeah, it should be there already though.
[03:54] <gnomefreak> L28: 1.0.7 i slow anyway ther are things you can do like change the piplining to make it faster or install FF 1.5
[03:54] <_jason> Apostle^: I don't think so
[03:54] <vividhaze> ok well thats my problem :) GRUB Error 22 just comes up.
[03:54] <gnomefreak> Krhis: for breezy it is
[03:54] <Stormx2> fyrestrtr: i've installed it, nevermind
[03:54] <fyrestrtr> Stormx2: can you connect to that box from another machine? its not a ports/firewall issue?
[03:54] <L28> gnomefreak Can i update to 1.5 through terminal?
[03:54] <Stormx2> fyrestrtr: i probably just hid it from the menu
[03:54] <gnomefreak> !ff1.5
[03:54] <vividhaze> isn't there a way to bypass putting GRUB on?  I only want Ubuntu on my comp anyway
[03:54] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[03:54] <gnomefreak> ^ L28
[03:54] <vividhaze> no WinXP
[03:54] <Stormx2> fyrestrtr: I'm not running a server, and I have no firewall set up.
[03:54] <Krhis> gnomefreak, true, but then again I complied 1.5 on Breezy.
[03:55] <gnomefreak> L28: please do not remove 1.0.7
[03:55] <fyrestrtr> Stormx2: what are you trying to connect to?
[03:55] <Krhis> If you're using APT it would be the latest.
[03:55] <_jason> Apostle^: make sure they are +x
[03:55] <Stormx2> fyrestrtr: A VNC server on my friend's computer
[03:55] <neuron> where can i get the kernel compiled sources from?
[03:55] <fyrestrtr> Stormx2: and his computer is .... where/
[03:55] <jim_u> fyrestrt1, yes, i can
[03:55] <L28> gnomefreak um, okay
[03:55] <jim_u> oops fyrestrtr yes i can
[03:55] <Stormx2> fyrestrtr: Thing is, on tsclient, the password box is greyed out and there is a username box. I don't know what to put in that, there isn't a username
[03:55] <fyrestrtr> neuron: from apt-get -- or kernel.org
[03:56] <gnomefreak> L28: with breezy you have to run 1.0.7 side by side with 1.5
[03:56] <DBO> vividhaze, it seems grub is misconfigured for some reason... error 22 means that its looking for a non-existant partion (I believe)
[03:56] <Stormx2> fyrestrtr: 80.195.218.217
[03:56] <jim_u> fyrestrtr, and every other machine is authenticating fine.. i've used configs known to work..
[03:56] <DBO> vividhaze, lemme look for a fix
[03:56] <fyrestrtr> Stormx2: there must be. Are you sure its even connecting? If the ports are open, it should connect.
[03:56] <vividhaze> cook thanks DBO
[03:56] <L28> gnomefreak oh. Do i have to get 1.5 from mozilla.com?
[03:56] <neuron> okay, and where  is the .configu file for breezy?
[03:56] <gnomefreak> no L28 ubotu posted the link for it
[03:56] <neuron> .config*
[03:56] <Stormx2> fyrestrtr: Dude how the hell can I be sure? When i click connect the box just goes away and nothing happens!
[03:56] <vividhaze> DB0 even if you could find a way to just not bother about GRUB and just let Ubuntu load up cause I haven't got any other systems on my comp
[03:57] <vividhaze> I'm using a Live-CD of Kanotix atm to get in here :S
[03:57] <vividhaze> lol
[03:57] <vividhaze> but I want ubuntu
[03:57] <fyrestrtr> Stormx2: well for one thing, you need to type a username first, before you can enter a password.
[03:57] <DBO> vividhaze, you need some kind of bootloader
[03:57] <gnomefreak> L28: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[03:57] <L28> gnomefreak thanks alot!
[03:57] <vividhaze> I remember ages ago i just had RH on my computer and it didn't need a loader, maybe things have changed.
[03:57] <DBO> vividhaze, has knoppix mounted your linux drives?
[03:57] <neuron> any ideeas?
[03:57] <gnomefreak> L28: please do it word for word it should take less than 20 mins
[03:58] <errpast_> vividhaze: On install with Ubuntu, there is an option to wipe entire disk and put on Ubuntu
[03:58] <L28> Gnomefreak Yep, i'll try :)
[03:58] <vividhaze> umm, I think so, but it shouldn't matter, in the ubuntu partition thing I wipe everything, and I reinitialise my MBR before install.
[03:58] <errpast_> I haven't used the Kanotix live CD
[03:58] <fyrestrtr> Stormx2: one way to find out, is to ask your friend :)
[03:58] <vividhaze> so its clean before Ubuntu
[03:58] <kevor> Hi, i've written (in warty) some extra options in Gnome-volume-manager, will i be able to use the same sourcecode on breezy, or isn't gvm used anymore?
[03:58] <jim_u> why would the ldaptools just decide not to work? is there something funky on ubuntu (5.10) that could stop this from working?
[03:58] <Stormx2> fyrestrtr: how can I? VNC doesn't use usernames as far as I know. And my friend certainly hasn't specified a username.
[03:58] <vividhaze> at what point errpast_?
[03:59] <fyrestrtr> Stormx2: seems your friend's router/internet/firewall is blocking the vnc port.
[03:59] <Stormx2> fyrestrtr: Really? OK
[03:59] <errpast_> vividhaze:  a couple minutes in.  I'm just installing Ubuntu on a laptop and desktop and got those options
[03:59] <vividhaze> Would it make a difference if I have 2 Hard Drives?
[03:59] <vividhaze> errpast_: the bit you can decide to manually partition or just use a whole HDD?
[04:00] <errpast_> vividhaze: yes, that bit shows up about 2 minutes in
[04:00] <antisocial_boris> my friend has just installed breezy but didnt configre the network when he did it, how does he do it once its installed?
[04:00] <vividhaze> I tried that, tried loads of those options and even manually wiped everything errpast_ :S
[04:00] <errpast_> vividhaze: I believe the MBR will be written to boot sector of hd0.  multiple disks are certainly ok
[04:00] <vividhaze> I only created /, /swap & /storage(my 2nd HDD)
[04:01] <DBO> antisocial_boris, system -> administration -> networking
[04:01] <fyrestrtr> Stormx2: vncviewer: ConnectToTcpAddr: connect: Connection timed out Unable to connect to VNC server
[04:01] <Stormx2> fyrestrtr: OK. he's forwarded it now hold on
[04:01] <ubuntu> allo
[04:01] <vividhaze> yup it says its writing to hdo errpast_
[04:01] <errpast_> vividhaze: when you get error 22, does it appear to be coming from Grub?
[04:02] <ubuntu> wwwwwwwwwww
[04:02] <vividhaze> yup at boot it says Starting Grub stage 1.5, then GRUB, then below that Error 2
[04:02] <vividhaze> 22
[04:02] <errpast_> vividhaze: let me poke around.  I believe I got that once.
[04:02] <vividhaze> cool thanks errpast_ :)
[04:03] <rambo3> vividhaze, and google search showed you that error 22 is ?
[04:03] <vividhaze> rambo3 it didn't show me anything useful.
[04:03] <antisocial_boris> also im having problems setting up other user accounts, i can make them but cant log in using the password i choose/ randomly generated
[04:03] <inazad> Hi there, O've a keyboard problem... anyone can help me?
[04:03] <errpast_> vividhaze: try http://lists.trolltech.com/qt-interest/2004-07/thread00053-0.html
[04:03] <fyrestrtr> vividhaze: error 22 means grub isn't installed on the right drive.
[04:04] <DBO> vividhaze, can you look in your ubuntu drive and pastebin your /boot/grub/menu.lst (beginng of path may be slightly different depending on where your live cd mounted it)
[04:04] <neuron> inazad: dont ask to ask, jst state your problem
[04:04] <neuron> just*
[04:05] <CraiZE> uhm, anyone knows how to map the XGL keys differently?
[04:05] <inazad> neuron, sorry
[04:05] <inazad> I can't install my keyboard (Canadian Multilingual) ..  How ?
[04:06] <vividhaze> DB0 how do i do that without having access to Ubuntu
[04:06] <vividhaze> i'm quite new to Linux
[04:06] <rambo3> vividhaze, do you have live cd ?
[04:06] <vividhaze> a Live CD of Kanotix only.
[04:06] <shadeofgrey> whats up all
[04:06] <rambo3> is that debian based?
[04:06] <vividhaze> I'm on 56K, so will have to wait til i'm at work on Monday to download a Live CD, if thats the only way
[04:06] <vividhaze> yea I think it is rambo3
[04:07] <macuserondope> Kantonix is based on knoppix.
[04:07] <macuserondope> which is based on debian.
[04:07] <vividhaze> thanks macuserondope :)
[04:07] <errpast_> vividhaze: I thought you were using a Kanotix live CD to get in there
[04:07] <vividhaze> yup I am.
[04:07] <Trunkz> okey
[04:07] <Trunkz> one problem sof ar
[04:07] <Trunkz> so far*
[04:08] <rambo3> yeah well mount /dev/hda what ever iubuntu is on to /mnt/ubuntu/ chroot /mnt/ubuntu/ and do grub-install /dev/hda
[04:08] <rambo3> from live cd
[04:08] <Trunkz> For some reason, ndiswrapper's compiling method is now thru some fakeroot command
[04:08] <GTX> Hi, I'm running ubuntu as a server, now I have two network cards eth0 and eth1. eth1 is connected to the internet and eth0 is connected to the local network, when I bring both up they cancal each other out how do I fix this?
[04:08] <Trunkz> when I do that, I later get some pnp.o error at the end :o
[04:08] <vividhaze> ok I'll try that now rambo3
[04:08] <Apostle^> GTX: you can probably bind one to local only
[04:08] <CraiZE> anyone knows how to map the XGL keys differently?
[04:08] <ayabara> is there a kind of network connection wizard in ubuntu?
[04:08] <GTX> Apostle^: explain what you mean
[04:08] <Killgore_> cedega for free?
[04:09] <Apostle^> GTX: like set one just for LAN
[04:09] <GTX> Apostle^: You mean bind one to LAN and one to inet
[04:09] <Apostle^> GTX: i suggest searching ubuntuforums.org
[04:09] <Apostle^> yes
[04:09] <GTX> Apostle^: I would search on there, but Im currently in the console of the server using irssi :P no gui
[04:09] <Apostle^> :-P!
[04:09] <GTX> Apostle^: so in /etc/network/interfaces I should set eth0 to LAN and eth1 to inet?
[04:09] <neuron> apt-get install links
[04:09] <vividhaze> how do I mount /dev/hda to /mnt/ubuntu
[04:09] <Apostle^> GTX: you can try it ye
[04:09] <neuron> GTX: apt-get install links
[04:09] <GTX> neuron: ?
[04:10] <ayabara> I am at my parents this easter, but Ubuntu won't connect to their wlan
[04:10] <neuron> this is a console baste web browser
[04:10] <GTX> Apostle^: and the name is called LAN ?
[04:10] <rambo3> vividhaze,  /dev/hda1 or 2 or where ubuntu is
[04:10] <kosnick> hi all
[04:10] <rambo3> you cant mount /dev/hda
[04:10] <Apostle^> GTX: probably not one moment
[04:10] <GTX> Apostle^: Ok, thanks
[04:10] <Cin> Is there an apt-get for source codes?
[04:10] <CraiZE> Apostle^: you got an idea how to change the XGL keys?
[04:10] <vividhaze> ok so i'm typing in "mount /dev/hda1" first?
[04:10] <vividhaze> it says it isn't there
[04:10] <Apostle^> CraiZE: no
[04:11] <CraiZE> :(
[04:11] <delonnor>  i seem to have a problem... i am trying to compile mplayer, but during the configuration, it cannot seem to find my inttypes.h (i cannot either, to be quite honest), where do i find it?
[04:11] <CraiZE> the other 2 chans about XGL are empty :(
[04:11] <delonnor> #ubuntu-de
[04:11] <delonnor> #ubuntu-de-treffpunkt
[04:11] <delonnor> #kubuntu-de
[04:11] <delonnor> #edubuntu-de
[04:11] <delonnor> sorry
[04:11] <rambo3> vividhaze, do df -l
[04:11] <_jason> delonnor: you know mplayer is in the multiverse repository?
[04:11] <salah> Maulkin:
[04:11] <salah> Maulkin :
[04:12] <ompaul> CraiZE, ask in #ubuntu+1
[04:12] <delonnor> _jason: yes, i do...i just like to compile it, i tend to always do that
[04:12] <vividhaze> done rambo3
[04:12] <CraiZE> i am there
[04:12] <GTX> Apostle^: any luck finding name?
[04:12] <_jason> delonnor: are you compiling cvs?
[04:12] <CraiZE> its quiet :P
[04:12] <vividhaze> Filesystem           1K-blocks      Used Available
[04:12] <vividhaze> Use% Mounted on
[04:12] <vividhaze> /dev/root                 5887      1156      4731
[04:12] <vividhaze>  20% /
[04:12] <vividhaze> /dev/hda                716070    716070         0
[04:12] <vividhaze> 100% /cdrom
[04:12] <vividhaze> /dev/loop0              711552    711552         0                     100% /KNOPPIX
[04:12] <vividhaze> /dev/hda                716070    716070         0                     100% /cdrom
[04:12] <vividhaze> /dev/loop0              711552    711552         0                     100% /KNOPPIX
[04:12] <_jason> ubotu: tell vividhaze about paste
[04:12] <ompaul> vividhaze, STOP NOW
[04:12] <eggzeck> learn how to use pastebin
[04:12] <Apostle^> GTX: what does your /etc/network/interfaces look like now
[04:12] <Trunkz> hey folks, kinda having some problems compiling the latest stable release of ndiswrapper on breezy
[04:13] <eggzeck> vividhaze, learn how to use pastebin, I mean damn....
[04:13] <vividhaze> :(
[04:13] <Trunkz> Its spitting out a */pnp.o error
[04:13] <vividhaze> sorry
[04:13] <Apostle^> does anyone know how to map a network card to be LAN only ?
[04:13] <gerhard> gruess gott
[04:13] <GTX> Apostle^: basiclay it has the two devices, in there. one is eth1 and one is eth0, but they both contain inet etc
[04:13] <Loevborg> delonnor, http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[04:13] <Apostle^> GTX: try removing inet from one
[04:13] <bluey> !tell vividhaze about paste
[04:13] <GTX> Apostle^: I have then it doesnt boot
[04:13] <jim_u> wow ubuntu is making this alot more difficult than it needs to be :(
[04:13] <gerhard> I have no sound in Ubuntu, not with any media Player etc
[04:13] <gerhard> and it is not muted
[04:13] <GTX> ~
[04:13] <vividhaze> ok I know now, won't do it again. :(
[04:13] <GTX> -
[04:13] <Cin> gerhard, you on KDE?
[04:13] <_jason> gerhard: do you have sound with anything?
[04:13] <gerhard> what could be the prob?
[04:13] <gerhard> no gnome
[04:14] <Cin> Oh, okay.
[04:14] <gerhard> no sound anywhere
[04:14] <jim_u> It ususally takes me about 1-2 mins to setup ldap auth and i've been doing this forever now
[04:14] <Apostle^> GTX: sorry man, you need somone who is better then me :-P
[04:14] <GTX> Apostle^: :\
[04:14] <rambo3> vividhaze, fdisk -l  -u /dev/hda  and paste output to paster
[04:14] <odat> anyone have any experience with alien arena?
[04:14] <Apostle^> GTX: i just have no experience with two network cards
[04:14] <delonnor> _jason: as far as i know
[04:14] <GTX> Hi, I'm running ubuntu as a server, now I have two network cards eth0 and eth1. eth1 is connected to the internet and eth0 is connected to the local network, when I bring both up they cancal each other out how do I fix this?
[04:14] <kosnick> gerharrd : one prob i met at the begining was that there were no codes for mp3 and staff. maybe that works for you too
[04:15] <_jason> delonnor: what does that mean?  where did you get the source :P
[04:15] <Apostle^> GTX: you know, you could just use one network card for both ..
[04:15] <gerhard> may be
[04:15] <Apostle^> GTX: it wouldn't slow performance
[04:15] <GTX> Apostle^: erm how?
[04:15] <Trunkz> hmm..
[04:15] <gerhard> but xmms should play those
[04:15] <rambo3> !tell vividhaze about paste
[04:15] <Trunkz> just changed the fontsize to 10
[04:15] <Trunkz> much better xD
[04:15] <gerhard> shouldnt it?
[04:15] <GTX> Apostle^: The setup I have here, that would not work./
[04:15] <Apostle^> GTX: just clean one out of the config file
[04:15] <Apostle^> GTX: ah
[04:15] <kosnick> gerhard: you have sound for them?
[04:15] <Apostle^> GTX: no router?
[04:15] <gerhard> i have no sound at all
[04:15] <gerhard> nowhere
[04:15] <GTX> Apostle^: Im quite advanced in networking, The router is the whole server itself
[04:16] <GTX> Just dont know how to figure this problem out
[04:16] <kosnick> gerhard : do you have video>
[04:16] <kosnick> ?
[04:16] <Apostle^> GTX: let me search a minute
[04:16] <GTX> Ok
[04:16] <gerhard> yes i think so
[04:16] <inazad> How I can read/write on my NTFS HD Extern (USB) of 250 GO ?
[04:16] <vividhaze> ok did that, so now i past the URL of that page? - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11764
[04:16] <kosnick> gerhard : give me one mimute plz
[04:16] <gerhard> yes
[04:16] <bluey> GTX: which devices assigns ip's on your lan?
[04:16] <neuron> inazad: you cant
[04:16] <gerhard> dont hurry, i have time
[04:16] <Siph0n> inazad: u can only read
[04:16] <delonnor> _jason: got it right from mplayerhq.hu
[04:17] <Siph0n> inazad: gotta edit \etc\fstab or sometin
[04:17] <GTX> bluey: Im not using dhcp
[04:17] <GTX> The server it self will assign the ips via ip4forwarding
[04:17] <inazad> Siph0n, I know people who they can..
[04:17] <bluey> GTX: using a hub ?
[04:17] <rambo3> ok you cant repair nothing there, i guess you need to reinstall ubuntu
[04:17] <salah_> Hi
[04:17] <GTX> bluey: kind of, I need to figure out this problem with the two network cards thoe
[04:17] <_jason> delonnor: so did you just download the tarball for v1.0pre7try2 right?  you didn't issue some cvs commands in a terminal?
[04:17] <Siph0n> inazad: well they are awesome then :) cause i keep hearing/reading that u cant :)
[04:17] <inazad> here its my /etc/fstab
[04:17] <GTX> One goes into the modem, the second goes into the local netweork bluey
[04:18] <inazad> proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
[04:18] <inazad> /dev/hda5       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[04:18] <inazad> /dev/hda4       /home           ext3    defaults        0       2
[04:18] <inazad> /dev/hda1       /media/hda1     ntfs    defaults        0       0
[04:18] <inazad> /dev/sda1       /media/sda1     ntfs    defaults        0       0
[04:18] <inazad> /dev/hda3       none            swap    sw              0       0
[04:18] <inazad> /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[04:18] <neuron> ahha :D
[04:18] <GTX> inazad: SHUT UP
[04:18] <inazad> /dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto  0       0
[04:18] <neuron> haha*
[04:18] <rambo3> +m and rtfm in topic quick!
[04:18] <inazad> GTX, what is ur prob ?
[04:18] <salah_> I am facing problem to do C prog in Ubuntu Terminal
[04:18] <vividhaze> rambo3: I've reinstalled it loads of times with different settings :)  I'll try again though.
[04:18] <riomerc> hi
[04:18] <_jason> inazad: please use a pastebin http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[04:18] <bluey> GTX: they are related. You need to setup each net.eth interface to use it's own ip address
[04:18] <GTX> inazad: You dont paste things in the channel
[04:18] <riomerc> Um
[04:18] <kosnick> gerhard : maybe this is something that works for you , check this out http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch03.html#codecs
[04:18] <inazad> ohh
[04:18] <odat>  anyone have any experience with alien arena?
[04:18] <neuron> inazad: that wasnt realy necesarry
[04:18] <ompaul> inazad, you do not paste in this channel use the pastebin as suggested by _jason that is considered spamming
[04:18] <GTX> bluey: it does already.. but they still clash
[04:18] <kosnick> gerhard : it is about codecs
[04:18] <riomerc> Is there a specific place to ask abotu nethack-related problems?
[04:18] <rambo3> vividhaze,  do you install it at first partition
[04:19] <inazad> I don't know sorry
[04:19] <rambo3> or the whole disk
[04:19] <ompaul> inazad, you do now :-)
[04:19] <inazad> ya
[04:19] <inazad> sry
[04:19] <bluey> GTX: if you have setup the ifconfig_ and default gateway on each interface it shouldn't be a problem
[04:19] <kosnick> gerhard ?
[04:19] <ompaul> tell inazad about pastebin
[04:19] <Siph0n> inazad: i think u gotta put something besides "defaults"
[04:19] <riomerc> Is there a specific place to ask abotu nethack-related problems?
[04:19] <bluey> GTX: ifconfig, pastebin the results
[04:19] <GTX> bluey: The local eth0 device doesnt have a default gateway of course becauses its the hub.
[04:19] <vividhaze> I'm not 100% sure rambo3, I set / to the first partition on the first drive and then /swap as well.
[04:19] <GTX> bluey: I cant im in console
[04:19] <delonnor> _jason: ... i ./configured it
[04:19] <vividhaze> then click finish and it starts installing.
[04:19] <inazad> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11765
[04:19] <ayabara> shouldn't ubuntu connect to an available open wireless network by itself (the only available network...)
[04:19] <Apostle^> GTX: if you had a GUI you could use firestarter to do this easil
[04:19] <inazad> my ntfs is sda1 (USB HD)
[04:20] <bluey> GTX: links/lynx/elinks + gpm
[04:20] <GTX> Apostle^: I would never use that crap :P
[04:20] <rambo3> vividhaze, do you plan on installing win on that hd too?
[04:20] <Apostle^> GTX: firestarter works perfectly ..
[04:20] <vividhaze> nope, no more windows for me.
[04:20] <vividhaze> :)
[04:20] <kosnick> gerhard?
[04:20] <riomerc> I need a little help
[04:20] <gerhard_> kosnick
[04:20] <GTX> bluey: Its a pain as I have to exit irssi every time i do this, You got any suggestions? in /etc/network/interfaces both devices have inet in them. is there one for the local network?
[04:20] <AljoshaNL> hello
[04:20] <void^> firestarter does work, but it does have a number of caveeats.
[04:20] <kosnick> gerhard : got it?
[04:20] <riomerc> is there a specific place for asking about nethack problems?
[04:21] <Apostle^> void^: such as?
[04:21] <salah> Hi
[04:21] <gerhard_> what?
[04:21] <AljoshaNL> I've got a question about flight 6 where can I ask it?
[04:21] <Siph0n> inazad : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=155368&highlight=mount+ntfs
[04:21] <bluey> GTX: ctrl + alt + 1-9 to switch consoles or use screen
[04:21] <Siph0n> that thread talks bout write support on ntfs
[04:21] <_jason> delonnor: ok... 'll assume you are using v1.0pre7try2 .  Can you pastebin the output?
[04:21] <salah> How can i do C prog in Ubuntu Terminal
[04:21] <gerhard_> can you qry me?
[04:21] <rambo3> then let ubuntu partition for you , if you dont know , else you have to set / to fist partition format it as xt3 make it bootable. make  swap  and thats it
[04:21] <GTX> bluey: as i said ages ago im using server, I dont have GUI or X
[04:21] <ompaul> inazad, looks like hda2 might be used for swap please paste the output of free into pastebin
[04:21] <inazad> Siph0n, I'll read it, plz wait me
[04:21] <kosnick> gerhard_ : i didn't ment you , there is some other gerhard (not gerhar_)
[04:21] <vividhaze> rambo3: I can get SuSE 9.2 Personal to install and work ok, so I'm messing about atm to see if I can get Ubuntu working is all.  Windows sucks.
[04:21] <void^> Apostle^: issues with some sysloggers, and the sheer number of unnecessary default rules are what annoy me the most usually
[04:21] <bluey> GTX: yes, are you listening to what i'm saying, these are all cli apps?
[04:21] <AljoshaNL> Were can I ask a question about flight 6???
[04:21] <gerhard_> ah
[04:21] <_jason> salah: install build-eseential, write the C source code, save it as file.c, then do 'gcc -o file file.c', then run ./file
[04:21] <gerhard_> ok
[04:22] <kosnick> c y
[04:22] <ompaul> Siph0n, there is also the factiod the bot has !ntfs and have a look
[04:22] <vividhaze> hmm...
[04:22] <GTX> bluey: I'll install screen in a moment, but you got any ideas what the configuration is for a local setting instead of inet
[04:22] <riomerc> um..
[04:22] <Siph0n> !ntfs
[04:22] <Cin> Hm. Coming from a FBSD perspective on getting packages as source that you compile, is there a way I can get the source of a particular program (like Konsole) in that sense? So I can basically check out the source, edit something and do make install?
[04:22] <ubotu> somebody said ntfs was the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[04:22] <Apostle^> void^: i like it :-P
[04:22] <riomerc> exuse me
[04:22] <delonnor> _jason: ... how do i pastebin...? just copy and paste?
[04:22] <AljoshaNL> Were can I ask a question about flight 6???
[04:22] <odat>  anyone have any experience with alien arena?
[04:22] <Siph0n> awesome thanx ompaul
[04:22] <vividhaze> ok I'll have a fiddle about with the settings rambo3, thanks for trying to help anyway. :)
[04:22] <jim_u> alright the amount of time i'm wasting on something that should be extremely simple.. i could have gentoo installed and running. is there any reccormended ldap authentication documentation that will get this going because everything i've followed ended up with it not working and no usable error messages
[04:22] <inc|freaky> hi all. im trying to get ubuntu running on my laptop. but it hangs at "starting hotplug" now i know i have to write something into a file on the harddrive. (blacklist) when rebooting in rescue mode with the CD, and trying to mount the HDD, it says: mounting failed: invalid argument. i did: mount -t ext3 /dev/sda3 /target/ can someone help me please?
[04:22] <_jason> delonnor: yeah just copy and apste to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and give us a link
[04:22] <bluey> GTX: without knowing the results of ifconfig i couldn't comment on your setup
[04:22] <kosnick> gerhard : still here?
[04:22] <salah> _jason: how can I build essential
[04:22] <bluey> GTX: or lspci
[04:22] <_jason> salah: 'sudo aptitude install build-essential'
[04:23] <eizesus> Hi all, how do i install Internet Explorer for wine?
[04:23] <riomerc> exuse me all
[04:23] <_jason> riomerc: just ask
[04:23] <rambo3> eizesus, ask in #winehq
[04:23] <eizesus> on.
[04:23] <inazad> BUt now, I see my External HD
[04:23] <riomerc> is there a specific place for asking abotu nethack?
[04:23] <Trae> I guess my new cable is working
[04:23] <inazad> but I don't have the read only access
[04:23] <inazad> O don't have the minimum...
[04:23] <smo> Cin: apt-get source <package> .. change what you need, then within the source root, 'debian/rules binary' will chew for a while, then spit out a .deb you can install like normal
[04:23] <salah> _jason: Thanks. How about Java prog?
[04:24] <Cin> smo, thanks man. :D
[04:24] <_jason> salah: ah don't know, don't do java
[04:24] <Trae> heh
[04:24] <Trae> errmm
[04:24] <Trae> I retract that statement
[04:24] <delonnor> _jason: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11766
[04:24] <fromvega> Hello, is there any FTP GUI in Ubuntu?
[04:24] <eizesus> join #winehq
[04:24] <eizesus> oops
[04:24] <salah> _jason: Haha funny ans
[04:24] <Siph0n> fromvega: yes... i forget the name tho lol :)
[04:24] <riomerc> is there a specific place for asking abotu nethack?
[04:24] <Cin> smo, it's getting to the point where I want a feature on a prog. but if I request it, you know it's gunna take a long time for it to be added to the main proj.
[04:24] <Siph0n> inazad: good luck,.... i gotta go shower and stuff
[04:25] <inazad> kk
[04:25] <fromvega> Siph0n: but can I download it through apt-get? There is a ftp client installed here, but I think it's not a GUI
[04:25] <salah> _jason: How can i setup media player.
[04:25] <riomerc> is there a specific place for asking abotu nethack?
[04:25] <ompaul> smo, care to add that to the wiki or find it in the factoids so that it can be pointed to (we need that kind of thing :-))
[04:25] <GTX> Back, I'm on screen now
[04:25] <riomerc> Is there a specific place for asking about nethack?
[04:25] <_jason> salah: there are a few to choose from, totem-gstreamer, totem-xine, gxine, xine-ui, mplayer, vlc... which one?
[04:26] <riomerc> _jason: Is there a specific place for asking about nethack?
[04:26] <_jason> delonnor: the version of mplayer you have only compiles with gcc-3.4 iirc.  Have you install gcc-3.4?
[04:26] <salah> _jason: To play songs from Online
[04:26] <GTX> I'm currently on a server which is using ubuntu, it only has console, Im trying to configure two devices, eth0 and eth1, eth0 is connected to the local network, eth1 is connected to the internet. When both interfaces are up they both cancal each other out and either the internet works or the local network works. not both at the same time, how can I fix this?
[04:26] <hyperactivecrond> s/songs/pr0n
[04:26] <_jason> salah: I like mplayer the best
[04:26] <_jason> ubotu: tell salah about mplayer
[04:26] <kbrooks> riomerc: #nethack
[04:26] <riomerc> thx
[04:26] <riomerc> #nethack
[04:26] <riomerc> oops
[04:27] <delonnor> yes i have
[04:27] <ubuntu> what's the default password for root in the ubuntu live CD???
[04:27] <hyperactivecrond> !tell ubuntu about rootsudo
[04:27] <AljoshaNL> how can I import evolution data into Kontact?
[04:27] <salah> _jason: Actually I tried both site u provided me
[04:27] <hyperactivecrond> ubuntu: there is none
[04:27] <Hobbsee> ompaul: sorry, had to sign out to concentrate.  code works though
[04:27] <hyperactivecrond> iirc
[04:27] <ompaul> GTX you say cancel each other out do you mean they both get the same ip?
[04:27] <ubuntu> hyperactivecrond: I have no X so I cant check sites :\
[04:28] <_jason> delonnor: sudo aptitude install build-essential gcc-3.4, you need both of those to build it
[04:28] <salah> _jason: I got stuck on skin and font installation problem
[04:28] <Frogzoo> what's the record for number of times to recompile wine to get WoW to work?
[04:28] <GTX> ompaul: No, They both dont get the same IP. the eth0 has a local area ip, and the eth1 has a different ip.
[04:28] <hyperactivecrond> ubuntu: there is no root pass
[04:28] <_jason> salah: k, install mplayer-fonts for the font problem.  then put your skin error on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and give me a link please
[04:28] <rob_p> GTX:  Make certain that only the 'Net connected interface has a gateway listed in /etc/network/interfaces.
[04:28] <ubuntu> how can I act like root so?
[04:28] <ompaul> GTX so that box is now a router
[04:29] <Frogzoo> !sudo
[04:29] <_jason> ubuntu: the root account is locked, you use sudo instead.  So for nano as root you do: 'sudo nano'
[04:29] <ubotu> rumour has it, sudo is a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[04:29] <ubuntu> thanks
[04:29] <GTX> rob_p: both are listed. If eth0 ( the local area connection ) isnt listed then how will people access the local one?
[04:29] <GTX> ompaul: correct
[04:29] <AljoshaNL> how can I import evolution data into Kontact?
[04:29] <odat> anyone have any experience with alien arena?
[04:30] <sHaDe> domani barra AN
[04:30] <rob_p> GTX:  People (local LAN) will use eth0 (in this case) as THEIR default gateway.
[04:30] <hyperactivecrond> sHaDe: ?
[04:30] <GTX> rob_p: Thats correct.
[04:30] <GTX> rob_p: But if its not in /etc/network/interfaces then it wont work./.
[04:31] <rob_p> GTX:  As long as it is connected to the LAN and also within the same network segment, they will be able to access it.
[04:31] <LeeJunFan> okay, I give up, I'm going back to windows. For some reason mesa GL drivers are loaded according to fglrxinfo, even though I've checked paths with ldd and it's using the right ones, removed all the mesa GL libs manually, still says mesa gl vendor.
[04:31] <GTX> rob_p: But where would I configure the ip for eth0 etc??
[04:31] <ygetartson> whats the specification for the ubuntu newsfeed to add in opera?
[04:31] <LeeJunFan> yeah, like that'll happen :) but it is annoying.
[04:31] <ygetartson> the url
[04:31] <ygetartson> or what
[04:31] <delonnor> _jason: ty...i know i forgot somwthing!
[04:31] <rob_p> GTX:  I didn't say remove it from /etc/network/interfaces!
[04:31] <GTX> rob_p: What do you mean then, what needs to be removed :S
[04:32] <ubuntu> _jason: nano is a text editor right? ..
[04:32] <_jason> ubuntu: yes
[04:32] <hyperactivecrond> LeeJunFan: what kind of vidcard did u have?
[04:32] <rob_p> GTX:  I said make sure that your settings for eth0 do NOT have a gateway listed in /etc/network/interfaces.
[04:32] <ubuntu> _jason: what I suppose to do with it?
[04:32] <_jason> ubuntu: nothing, it was just an example
[04:32] <GTX> rob_p: Yes thats correct it doesnt have a gateway listed. Only eth1 has the gateway listed.
[04:32] <LeeJunFan> hyperactivecrond: 9800
[04:32] <rob_p> GTX:  Only the 'Net connected interface should have a gateway listed.
[04:32] <ubuntu> I want to mount a dev.. So i must be root
[04:32] <hyperactivecrond> !ati
[04:32] <ubotu> [ati]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[04:32] <ubuntu> how can I do that?
[04:32] <GTX> rob_p: Thats correct, thats what Ive got at the moment
[04:32] <hyperactivecrond> followed this?
[04:32] <ubuntu> sudo mount ... ?
[04:32] <_jason> ubuntu: you but sudo before the command... same as nano
[04:33] <LeeJunFan> hyperactivecrond: actually lspci says 9600, but it's a 9800
[04:33] <_jason> ubuntu: yep
[04:33] <ubuntu> oh
[04:33] <ubuntu> thanks
[04:33] <ubuntu> ;P
[04:33] <ygetartson> someone here who reads the ubuntu rss feed?
[04:33] <L28> Hi, aren't sounds supposed to work on flash-movies on ubuntu?
[04:33] <rob_p> GTX:  In order to help you further, I'm afraid we'll need to see the contents of your /etc/network/interfaces file.
[04:33] <GTX> rob_p: how can I show it? through the console :S
[04:33] <hyperactivecrond> !tell GTX about pastebin
[04:33] <odat>  anyone have any experience with alien arena?
[04:33] <GTX> hyperactivecrond: Im in the console not gui
[04:34] <GTX> rob_p: I've got an idea ill upload it
[04:34] <hyperactivecrond> oh.
[04:34] <bluey> GTX: are you hard of hearing?, gpm, and pastebin
[04:34] <rob_p> GTX:  There are command-line utils out there which allow you to pipe the output of commands to a pastebin.
[04:34] <_jason> how can I make checkinstall create a deb but not install the package?  I can't find an option
[04:34] <bluey> GTX: links/elinks/lynx + gpm -> connect to a pastebin site then paste, it's not rocket science
[04:35] <kbrooks> bluey: be nice
[04:35] <GTX> bluey: do I need a mouse for that?
[04:35] <rob_p> GTX:  Unfortunately, the one I use had to be modified to work with my pastebin otherwise I'd just have you download it.
[04:35] <kbrooks> gtx: yes
[04:35] <GTX> bluey: I dont have a mouse...
[04:35] <GTX> lol
[04:35] <bluey> kbrooks: hes repeatly asking the same questions, which i already answered
[04:35] <sgt-dyke> How can i play battlefield under linux
[04:35] <Newbie16> HO
[04:35] <kbrooks> bluey: irrevelant
[04:35] <kbrooks> bluey: be nice
[04:35] <DBO> sgt-dyke, you could try cedega
[04:36] <acid-trip> ok how do i install apache
[04:36] <acid-trip> when i sudo apt-get install apache
[04:36] <acid-trip> it don't work
[04:36] <_jason> ubotu: tell acid-trip about lamp
[04:36] <kbrooks> dbo: not free
[04:36] <Newbie16> I have an Gforce 6200 and Dapper flight 6!! ust i use glx or glx-legacy??
[04:36] <sgt-dyke> okay DBO apt-get cedega ???
[04:36] <Killgore_> DBO: please explain how to get cedega without paying. I know im cheap but
[04:36] <_jason> acid-trip: do you get errors by any chance?
[04:36] <bluey> GTX: you don't have a single mouse anywhere?
[04:36] <GTX> rob_p: I dont suspose you have an ftp I could upload it to do you? just for a few minutes
[04:36] <DBO> kbrooks, compile from CVS is free
[04:36] <acid-trip> yeah
[04:36] <GTX> bluey: no, I'm in a datacentre
[04:36] <_jason> acid-trip: want to tell me :P
[04:36] <acid-trip> sure
[04:36] <_jason> acid-trip: if it's long, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[04:36] <Killgore_> DBO: ive read there is a lot of problems with compiling it. Do they still exist?
[04:37] <acid-trip> m,
[04:37] <acid-trip> i got it
[04:37] <DBO> Killgore_, yep
[04:37] <Newbie16> Huhu?? Gforce 6200 GLX or GLX-Legacy paket?
[04:37] <acid-trip> i had to sudo apt-get install apache2
[04:37] <acid-trip> lol
[04:37] <acid-trip> forgot the two
[04:37] <acid-trip> lmao
[04:37] <_mark> I installed the motorola 56k driver and still have no modem I ran lsmod and nothing shows up as far as the modem any ideas would be great
[04:37] <rob_p> GTX:  I do but it does not allow anonymous access.
[04:37] <_jason> acid-trip: yeah apache2 is in main, apache is only in universe
[04:37] <odat>  anyone have any experience with alien arena?
[04:37] <Killgore_> DBO: so would it be worth "finding" the .deb files for it?
[04:38] <DBO> Killgore_, dont pirate it
[04:38] <kosnick> _mark : got modem DRIVER problems or modem connection probs?
[04:38] <Killgore_> DBO: oooh but i want to
[04:38] <rob_p> GTX:  I gotta split... didn't realize the time!  Once you get the contents of your /etc/network/interfaces file to a publicly accessible location, I'm sure someone here will be able to help you.  Wish I could stay... gotta run.  Good luck.
[04:38] <DBO> Killgore_, well Im not telling you how
[04:38] <_mark> kosnick: driver problems
[04:38] <GTX> Is there anyone here which can lend me an ftp account for two secs, which I can upload to and paste a link in here
[04:38] <Newbie16> Can somebody help me???
[04:38] <DBO> Newbie16, sure, whats the problem?
[04:39] <GTX> rob_p: The only thing which I think might be wrong in /etc/network/interfaces is that they both have inet in them
[04:39] <MenZa> Newbie16: stating the problem would be a good start.
[04:39] <kosnick> _mark : ok , i had some connections probs and maybe i could help you but nothing bout drivers
[04:39] <GTX> rob_p: is there one for local or something
[04:39] <_mark> kosnick: wvdial doesn't see it nor dose the lsmod show it
[04:39] <AljoshaNL> how can I import evolution data into Kontact?
[04:39] <_mark> kosnick: ok thanks though
[04:39] <Newbie16> DBO i have an Gforce 6200 and flight cd 6 !! but i dont know glx  ore glx-legacy
[04:39] <DBO> !dapper
[04:39] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[04:40] <_mark> does anyone know of a great site to learn setserial
[04:40] <rob_p> GTX:  Yes.  They should say something along the lines of, "iface eth0 inet static" or dhcp depending on your network.
[04:41] <GTX> rob_p: Yeah they both say along the lines of that, but should the eth0 ( local network ) not have inet in it but something elser?
[04:41] <Trae> http://gluv.univalle.edu.co/HOWTO/Serial-HOWTO-8.html
[04:41] <Trae> _mark: --^
[04:41] <Trae> heh
[04:41] <Trae> from google
[04:41] <rob_p> GTX:  No.  It should be similar.
[04:42] <GTX> rob_p: I havnt got a clue whats wrong then everything looks fine :\
[04:42] <DBO> because the do
[04:42] <rob_p> GTX:  Again, pastebin it and ask for help.  Gotta split.  Good luck!
[04:43] <GTX> rob_p: I cant pastebin it :(!
[04:43] <GTX> grrr
[04:43] <AljoshaNL> because they get paid to advertise :P
[04:43] <kingspawn> intuos_pen: money
[04:44] <intuos_pen> kingspawn: microsoft pays them just to include that string on their sites?
[04:44] <DBO> intuos_pen, you got it
[04:45] <DBO> its called advertising
[04:45] <intuos_pen> gah.
[04:45] <AljoshaNL> it sucks
[04:45] <Jimmey__> How do I play DVDs? I have the proper libraries set up, but Totem wont play.
[04:45] <AljoshaNL> have you registered them?
[04:46] <Jimmey__> registered?
[04:46] <AljoshaNL> and are you sure they are for the right version of gstr
[04:46] <Jimmey__> Oh
[04:46] <AljoshaNL> i m leaving
[04:46] <AljoshaNL> see you
[04:46] <intuos_pen> now that ubuntu is properly installed and configured i wonder what to do next.
[04:47] <CraiZE> what is the altGR equivalent tag (like <alt>) for gconf-editor ?
[04:47] <DBO> intuos_pen, if you are a first time coder, its a good language.  its almost like writing psuedo-code
[04:48] <_jason> how can I make checkinstall create a deb but not install the package?  I can't find an option
[04:48] <ESPOiG> neone here tried xubuntu 6.06/4 and found probelms with grub installer ?
[04:48] <DBO> !dapper
[04:48] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[04:49] <jim_u> my ldap authentication died on both of my ubuntu boxes, whats going on!
[04:50] <CraiZE> what is the altGR equivalent tag (like <alt>) for gconf-editor ?
[04:51] <CraiZE> anyone? :(
[04:51] <Trae> man
[04:51] <Trae> this gnome-xchat sucks
[04:51] <Trae> in dapper-drake
[04:51] <CraiZE> yup
[04:51] <ESPOiG> Trae: y?
[04:51] <ESPOiG> i just use xhat
[04:51] <ESPOiG> *xchat
[04:51] <Trae> ESPOiG: heh
[04:52] <CraiZE> you can install xchat
[04:52] <CraiZE> you are using ex-chat like me
[04:52] <Trae> regular xchat isn't in universe
[04:52] <CraiZE> i will switch in a min too
[04:52] <CraiZE> it is
[04:53] <Trae> root@flight6:~# apt-cache search xchat
[04:53] <Trae> xchat-gnome - a new frontend to the popular X-Chat IRC client
[04:53] <Trae> hmm
[04:53] <CraiZE> defo is
[04:53] <CraiZE> i just installed it
[04:53] <CraiZE> and ran it
[04:53] <CraiZE> ;)
[04:54] <_mark> ok I ran lspci to get the irq of the modem then ran setserial to show all the serial devices and there is none at the irq found any ideas or could it be the modem is dead?
[04:55] <gopi> Hi all, Whats the channel for general Ubuntu question?? #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:55] <gopi> ??
[04:56] <ompaul> CraiZE, please do not use the enter key after a short line, please put all your thoughts on one line, thanks
[04:56] <ompaul> gopi, in general its here
[04:56] <CraiZE> o_O
[04:56] <ompaul> gopi, unless its a policy thing
[04:56] <gopi> ok.. like I am going to present a ppt session call on Ubuntu Topic... Can anyone give a good suggestion please ?
[04:57] <ompaul> gopi, that is for #ubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-marketing
[04:57] <CraiZE> how can i disable the red line in xchat?
[04:57] <Frogzoo> gopi: OO impress with a light pro
[04:57] <CraiZE> okay fixed
[04:57] <drcode> hi all
[04:57] <CraiZE> nevermind :)
[04:58] <cybdeb> hello
[04:58] <gopi> Frogzoo: light pro ??
[04:58] <jug777> how do i open a .rpm file
[04:58] <Frogzoo> gopi: projector
[04:58] <_jason> jug777: you avoid them.  What are you trying to install?
[04:58] <Dr_Willis> ive used 'mc' to view the contents of a rpm file.
[04:58] <cybdeb> can someone help me with sharing Internet?
[04:58] <ompaul> jug777, you should not have to on Ubuntu, what is it you want to install?
[04:58] <MenZa> Where can I find more 'widgets' to add to the panels?
[04:58] <jug777> AVg ?
[04:58] <Dr_Willis> Or you can use a script mentioned on the 'advance bash scripting guide' to 'extract' them to a directory structure
[04:59] <drcode> I am looking for software that can fillter voice from room in microphone
[04:59] <drcode> any idea?
[04:59] <Frogzoo> MenZa: right click task bar -> add to panel
[04:59] <_mark> _jason: could that be why my modem is not working cuz the driver is in rpm form I had to convert it and then install it
[04:59] <gopi> Frogzoo: But its not a projector one... its a session that I need to take only through phone and everyone will my ppt in their systems :)
[04:59] <ompaul> jug777, as in the anti virus software?
[04:59] <MenZa> Frogzoo: I know - but where do I find more things?
[04:59] <MenZa> :)
[04:59] <jug777> yes
[04:59] <MenZa> I love widgets :D
[04:59] <MenZa> widgets, gadgets, whatever - <3
[04:59] <_jason> _mark: maybe, have you seen the ubuntu wiki on dialup?
[04:59] <ompaul> jug777, why would you want that on linux?
[04:59] <Frogzoo> MenZa: apt-cache search applet   ;)
[05:00] <_mark> _jason: no is it big?
[05:00] <_jason> ubotu: tell _mark about dialup
[05:00] <ompaul> jug777, rpm files can break your ubuntu in new and intersting ways
[05:00] <gopi> hi
[05:00] <MenZa> Frogzoo: Err...?
[05:00] <_jason> _mark: you probably want to give yourself about an hour if you haven't done it before
[05:01] <jug777> ok thanks for the tip, new to linux just trying to learn my way around
[05:01] <MenZa> Frogzoo: If displays hundreds of applications, or "applets"
[05:01] <MenZa> :S
[05:02] <ompaul> jug777, I'll have the bot send you a message you can look at that web page and it will make your linux experience easier
[05:02] <maryssa> who's french?
[05:02] <_mark> _jason: ok but I don't think its ganna help I have a winmodem and its only source as far as a driver is in the rpm pkg
[05:02] <jug777> Thanks
[05:02] <lestatslair> i have a question regarding ubuntu.. im trying to install modem drivers, the instructions i have gotten from the ubuntu site tell me to make clean, when i type that in it tells me command not found
[05:02] <_jason> _mark: I think the dialup page covers most brands, you should take a look
[05:02] <ompaul> !fr
[05:02] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[05:02] <jim_u> i have ldap able to connect and search for stuff, but nss won't authenticate against ldap-, i'm new to debian/ubuntu and without it giving me any output whatsoever in any log file relevent to this i have no idea how to debug the problem, i'm trying to get central authentication working. i configured and followed the howto to setup client ldap authentication. every box is working fine with the ldap server, this one won't work.
[05:02] <B0FH> !hardware
[05:02] <ubotu> I heard hardware is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[05:03] <Dr_Willis> lestatslair,  if compiling stuff you need to have some of the developer packages installed - and 'build-essential'
[05:03] <_mark> _jason: reading now thanks
[05:04] <boggiex64> question:  does anyone know how to boot into Run Level 3 rather then 5?
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> boggiex64,  ubuntu defaults to 2 - i thought.
[05:04] <Trae> does Ubuntu use kdm now?
[05:04] <lestatslair> ok.. i can add them from the cd then Dr_Willis?
[05:04] <boggiex64> love ubuntu except for that
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> boggiex64,  at the grub menu - hit 'e' to edit the line, and put a '5' or 3' or whatever on the end
[05:04] <Frogzoo> boggiex64: actually in ubuntu default runlevel is 2 - man inittab is what you need
[05:04] <_jason> Trae: you can if you want
[05:04] <Trae> _jason: I don't want to
[05:05] <_jason> Trae: then don't, gmd is default :)
[05:05] <jim_u> does anyone have any clue about this stupid ldap stuff, i'm quite frustrated now
[05:05] <boggiex64> ok didn know ubuntu defaults to 2
[05:05] <Dr_Willis> lestatslair,  proberly - or apt-get them from the internet
[05:05] <Trae> _jason: just wondering what was up with the cheesy theme in gdm drake
[05:05] <Trae> just figured it was kdm
[05:05] <Trae> course, kde doesn't have the market cornered on crappy themes
[05:05] <acid-trip> grrrrrrrr
[05:05] <_jason> Trae: I haven't tried it yet, but I saw a screenshot and I think it's just a joke while at the same time reminding people it's devel
[05:05] <lestatslair> ok thanks
[05:06] <boggiex64> thanks
[05:06] <Trae> _jason: heh
[05:06] <lestatslair> also. is there a prog out that wil play mp3s in ubunto?
[05:06] <_jason> ubotu: tell lestatslair about mp3
[05:06] <acid-trip> does anyone know how to format and permantly mount a hdd through commandline?
[05:06] <DBO> yes
[05:06] <boggiex64> make sure you use the multiverse repos
[05:06] <intuos_pen> lestatslair: xmms.
[05:07] <intuos_pen> lestatslair: be sure to download lame.
[05:07] <DBO> acid-trip, are you familiar with vi or nano?
[05:07] <acid-trip> DBO, i use both
[05:07] <acid-trip> :D
[05:07] <lestatslair> ok thanks
[05:08] <DBO> acid-trip, you will have to make an entry in /etc/fstab so that the drive gets mounted each time, as for the format you can use the fdisk command
[05:08] <Moca> salut
[05:08] <mwe> acid-trip: acid-trip use cfdisk to create a partition. then make a file system on it with mkfs.filesystem
[05:08] <duda> who espeak english
[05:08] <mwe> acid-trip: then update /etc/fstab
[05:08] <intuos_pen> damn, this $100 samsonite (made in china) laptop bag isn't worth it's price.
[05:08] <duda> who sajk spnish
[05:08] <MenZa> Frogzoo: I assume I have to restart X to make those appear?
[05:08] <Dr_Willis> !mount
[05:08] <ubotu> mount is probably the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[05:08] <Dr_Willis> !fdisk
[05:08] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Dr_Willis
[05:09] <duda> who speak spnish
[05:09] <Scarborough> what plugin do I need to see quicktime videos in firefox?
[05:09] <MenZa> !es
[05:09] <_jason> !es
[05:09] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:09] <MenZa> :P
[05:09] <DBO> Scarborough, mplayer-mozilla
[05:09] <_jason> Scarborough: and w32codecs
[05:09] <MenZa> After having installed applets for the GNOME panel, do I need to restart X to make them appear in my Panels-menu?
[05:09] <DBO> tag-team!
[05:09] <mwe> intuos_pen: sysadmin scriting tool?
[05:10] <Dr_Willis> MenZa,  i never noticed needing to do that.
[05:10] <Scarborough> _jason: can I find them in synaptic?
[05:10] <_jason> ubotu: tell Scarborough about mplayer
[05:10] <MenZa> Dr_Willis: well, none of the ones I've downloaded (plenty) have appeared.
[05:10] <_jason> ubotu: tell Scarborough about w32codecs
[05:10] <MenZa> Wait. Here they are.
[05:10] <Dr_Willis> MenZa,  log out/backin then i guess
[05:10] <delonnor> Scarborough: yes
[05:10] <MenZa> Dr_Willis: Thank you :)
[05:10] <Dr_Willis> thats 'logical' :P
[05:11] <aajaj> sorry all...but how do i compile i cvs i downloaded (just started linux two days ago)
[05:11] <aajaj> i type "make"
[05:11] <aajaj> nothing happens
[05:11] <MenZa> aajaj: no reason to apologize.
[05:11] <_jason> aajaj: what are you trying to compile?
[05:11] <Dr_Willis> cvs is a rather large topic. :P
[05:11] <aajaj> ffmpeg
[05:11] <aajaj> im trying to run dvb on xine
[05:12] <Nick-Sp> yo
[05:12] <aajaj> i downloaded the tar file for ffmpeg
[05:12] <_jason> aajaj: you need build-essential to compile stuff
[05:12] <aajaj> extracted it
[05:12] <intuos_pen> mwe, yeah sysadmin scripting tool.
[05:12] <aajaj> i think i have those
[05:12] <acid-trip> mwe, when i cfdisk my other drive doesn't appear
[05:12] <mwe> aajaj: doest it come with a README or INSTALL file?
[05:12] <_jason> !info ffmpeg
[05:12] <Kork_> hi, maybe someone could help me with a problem
[05:12] <aajaj> it does
[05:12] <ubotu> ffmpeg: (multimedia player, server and encoder), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 3:0.cvs20050918-4ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 3880 kB, Installed size: 9776 kB
[05:12] <_jason> aajaj: it is in the repos though
[05:13] <mwe> acid-trip: what device is it? you should sudo cfdisk /dev/whatever
[05:13] <duda> hola Nick-Sp
[05:13] <aajaj> im sorry , im not following what u r saying
[05:13] <Kork_> some spambot keeps sending authorise requests in gaim an blockind does not work
[05:13] <mwe> acid-trip: dmesg will help you determine if you don't know
[05:13] <aajaj> !info xine
[05:14] <mwe> intuos_pen: what is that?
[05:14] <Pupeno> Is there any way to have two clock applets with different time zones (like in KDE) ? (in Gnome I mean)
[05:14] <acid-trip> ok mwe  i sudo cfdisk /dev/hdd
[05:14] <acid-trip> now what
[05:14] <acid-trip> ?
[05:14] <aajaj> so this "make" command..what is it
[05:14] <mwe> acid-trip: is that the second hard drive?
[05:15] <acid-trip> yeah it's my second hard drive
[05:15] <_jason> aajaj: totem-xine, xine-ui, and gxine are in the repositories
[05:15] <acid-trip> i have it formatted and the partition set up
[05:15] <mwe> acid-trip: make a partition type 83
[05:15] <aajaj> yes i got xine to play all sorts of things
[05:15] <intuos_pen> mwe: a scripting tool to automate system administration tasks.
[05:15] <acid-trip> ok then what
[05:15] <aajaj> but when i try stdin://mpeg2 it gives me a demuxer error
[05:15] <inazad> Hi, I want to install a downloaded theme. How ?
[05:16] <mwe> intuos_pen: just make a script and make it run with cron
[05:16] <MenZa> inazad: drag it into your theme palette, System -> Preferences -> Themes and select Theme Details. Then choose the component you installed.
[05:16] <Eleaf> hi hi
[05:17] <boggiex64> so do I have to press 'e' and switch to runlevel 3 every time? if I have to I'll just stick with booting pressing <Ctrl>+<Alt>+F1 and loging in as root then killall gdm
[05:17] <_jason> aajaj: did you install ffmpeg maybe?
[05:17] <aajaj> i did install it
[05:17] <acid-trip> grrrrrr
[05:17] <inazad> MenZa, ok wait me
[05:17] <Eleaf> acid-trip, hi
[05:17] <mwe> !tell intuos_pen about cron
[05:17] <acid-trip> mwe, how do i set the file system as ext3?
[05:17] <Sonderblade> when will dapper be released?
[05:17] <aajaj> !info demuxer
[05:18] <yohan> i have a really quick question: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=902007#post902007
[05:18] <_jason> aajaj: how about this stuff http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch03.html#sect-music-and-movies
[05:18] <yohan> does anyone have a recommended nfo viewer btw?
[05:18] <inazad> MenZa, error, file type invalid...
[05:18] <boggiex64> to use ext3 your part has to be reformatted
[05:18] <MenZa> inazad: what file are you attempting to install?
[05:18] <acid-trip> nm
[05:18] <acid-trip> got it now
[05:18] <inazad> MenZa, linuxtechnology-default-0.6x.tar.gz
[05:19] <MenZa> inazad: could you link me to the source?
[05:19] <inazad> k wait
[05:19] <mwe> acid-trip: you don't with cfdisk. that only makes a partition. use mkfs.ext2 to make the filesystem
[05:19] <Trunkz> Having some problems with compilin ndiswrapper
[05:19] <MenZa> (wherever you got it from, kde-look.org etc.)
[05:19] <Trunkz> can anyone help me here? :)
[05:19] <MenZa> gnome-look.org*
[05:19] <mwe> acid-trip: read man mkfs first
[05:19] <acid-trip> mwe, i got it
[05:19] <Rug> Howdy all
[05:19] <MenZa> lo Rug
[05:19] <inazad> MenZa, http://themes.freshmeat.net/projects/linuxtechnology/
[05:20] <aajaj> im trying this steamtuner right now
[05:20] <Rug> Is it possible to use a debian server as an apt-proxy host for Ubuntu?  (Googling implies the answer is no)
[05:20] <Trunkz> ndiswrapper keeps crashing when its compiling pnp.o :o
[05:21] <Trunkz> what can I do about this?
[05:21] <inazad> MenZa, but the package I wanna install is -> http://themes.freshmeat.net/projects/kernelcode/
[05:21] <IdleOne> Rug, it is possible but not recommended
[05:21] <Mabus06> !azureus
[05:21] <ubotu> azureus is, like, totally, a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[05:21] <aajaj> nope
[05:21] <MenZa> inazad: I can't help you with that one, sorry.
[05:21] <aajaj> i still get this error when i run xone
[05:21] <inazad> MenZa, u runnign ubuntu, right?
[05:21] <Rug> IdleOne: Thanks.
[05:21] <MenZa> Yes.
[05:21] <aajaj> xine: "there is no demuxer plugin available"
[05:21] <IdleOne> Rug, chances are the package you want is in ubuntu repos
[05:22] <aajaj> to handle "stdin://mpeg2"
[05:22] <Rug> ???
[05:22] <IdleOne> Rug, packages.ubuntu.com or apt-cache search packagename or use synaptic
[05:22] <Rug> All the packages I want are in the repos.   I have 4 systems that I need to install.  I wanted to use apt-proxy to speed-up the install
[05:22] <Christopher> I need help with the clock. The seconds are going by extremely fast
[05:23] <IdleOne> Rug,  oh Im sorry I misunderstod
[05:23] <_jason> aajaj: is there a file available online somewhere that causes that so i can see if it happens ehre too?
[05:23] <Rug> Christopher: Life gets like that when you get older
[05:23] <Christopher>  lol
[05:23] <yohan> does anyone have a recommended nfo viewer btw?
[05:23] <Rug> yohan: nano
[05:23] <Christopher> No i mean the seconds are moving really fast
[05:23] <Christopher> like 1
[05:23] <Christopher> 2
[05:23] <Christopher> 3
[05:23] <Christopher> 4
[05:24] <IdleOne> Christopher, dont do that please it will get you banned
[05:24] <Christopher> if ok
[05:24] <Christopher> *ok
[05:24] <aajaj> _jason: thanks
[05:24] <kronoz> hi
[05:24] <Trae> CraiZE, heh, you were right
[05:24] <[cro] smiley> how to remove directory from console?
[05:24] <Trae> CraiZE, it helps if you apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:24] <Trae> *chuckle*
[05:24] <_jason> [cro] smiley: rmdir if it is empty, otherwise rm -r
[05:24] <IdleOne> Christopher, are you saying that the clock is ticking faster then it should?
[05:24] <Christopher> yes
[05:24] <[cro] smiley> _jason, thanx a lot :)
[05:24] <_jason> ubotu: tell [cro] smiley about cli
[05:24] <mustard> hi just crossed over from windows i am a linux newbie
[05:25] <IdleOne> Christopher, lmao how is that possible
[05:25] <Trunkz> _jason, I'm having problems with compiling ndiswrapper 1.12 (stable). It keeps crashing when trying to compile pnp.o
[05:25] <Christopher> I dont know
[05:25] <_jason> ubotu: tell Trunkz about ndiswrapper
[05:25] <acid-trip> is ubuntu really secure?
[05:25] <Trunkz> that doesnt help :p
[05:25] <_jason> Trunkz: I've never done it, so I can't help much more than giving you the wiki link
[05:25] <IdleOne> Christopher, /set mode Christopher time_slow_down lol
[05:25] <Trunkz> okeh, thanks :D
[05:25] <Christopher> lol
[05:25] <Trunkz> anyone else here who can help me? :)
[05:26] <IdleOne> Christopher, I have never heard of anything like that but who knows
[05:26] <erg0t_> hi fellow ubuntuers =)
[05:26] <Rug> acid-trip: compared to what?  Commodore-Vic 20:  No  WinXP:  yes
[05:26] <mustard> how can i browse files in my windows partition from linux
[05:26] <_jason> ubotu: tell mustard about ntfs
[05:26] <IdleOne> !tell mustard about samba
[05:26] <kronoz> mustard: ntfs kernel module
[05:26] <Frogzoo> Trunkz: which gcc version r u using?
[05:26] <Christopher> i set it for 11:00 about 5 minutes ago and it shows its 11:33
[05:26] <mustard> err? im a complete nub
[05:26] <dabaR_> IdleOne: you are off the ball
[05:26] <IdleOne> Trunkz, sudo apt-get install  build-essential
[05:27] <dabaR_> mustard: read private messages from ubotu, and links.
[05:27] <IdleOne> dabaR_, ???
[05:27] <mustard> kk ty:)
[05:27] <dabaR_> IdleOne: first wrong info to Rug, then to mustard :P
[05:27] <erg0t_> when i installed ubuntu, it automatically mounted my windows partitions as rw with no prob...
[05:27] <IdleOne> dabaR_, enlighten me please
[05:28] <dabaR_> IdleOne: well, he has a partition to mount, you gave him a link to samba,.
[05:28] <IdleOne> he never said it was a partition . I assume he has a windows pc and an ubuntu one
[05:28] <kbrooks> IdleOne: end users dont know everything
[05:28] <dabaR_> 10:40 < mustard> how can i browse files in my windows partition from linux
[05:29] <erg0t_> heh
[05:29] <CraiZE> Trae, :P
[05:29] <erg0t_> xD
[05:29] <_mark> _jason: why does gedit not open a makefile from prompt but will from gui ?
[05:29] <IdleOne> dabaR_, yeah I just saw that
[05:29] <dabaR_> IdleOne: no big deal, I just noticed:)
[05:29] <_jason> _mark: what command are you using?
[05:29] <Rug> IdleOne: don't worry about it
[05:29] <_mark> _jason: prompt I'm in root so I can rewrite it gui I'm in user
[05:30] <IdleOne> dabaR_, from now on I will check with you first :P
[05:30] <dabaR_> hehe
[05:30] <_mark> _jason: gedit
[05:30] <_jason> _mark: huh?
[05:30] <dabaR_> You wish I was here...
[05:30] <_mark> _jason: sorry I was slow on that follow up
[05:31] <_jason> _mark: well what happens when you try to open it?
[05:31] <Pupeno> Is Evolution data in Maildir format ?
[05:31] <_mark> _jason: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[05:32] <_jason> _mark: you get that just from the exact command 'gedit' ?
[05:32] <[cro] smiley> _jason, and how to copy folder?
[05:32] <_jason> [cro] smiley: check your private messages from ubotu, he gave you a link with lots of info
[05:33] <_mark> _jason: gedit makefile
[05:33] <Ykstort> Gentoo > Ubuntu
[05:33] <kbrooks> ......
[05:33] <dabaR_> pah
[05:33] <IdleOne> bah
[05:33] <Pupeno> How do I change the date format (YYYY-MM-DD instead of MM/DD/YYYY) ? (for evolution and other programs)
[05:34] <dabaR_> Pupeno: perhaps in the time and date applet in sys>admin
[05:34] <_jason> _mark: it's usually Makefile with a capital M ?  but I don't know why you get that Authentication rejected thing
[05:34] <Pupeno> dabaR_: I don't see it there.
[05:34] <mustard> ty for the links i tried that stuff but it didnt work i think i screwed the partition up during the install
[05:35] <_jason> _mark: are you doing this as root after sudo -i or something?
[05:35] <inazad> Hi I want to install a theme for wmkaer .. how ?
[05:35] <dabaR_> Pupeno: that is best I can think of.
[05:35] <inazad> I donwloaded it but I don't know how to install it...
[05:35] <Pupeno> ok.
[05:35] <yohan> i have a really quick question: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=902007#post902007
[05:35] <_mark> _jason: lol sorry I missed the capital M thats the problem
[05:36] <IdleOne> yohan, you changing the settings with sudo?
[05:37] <[cro] smiley> _jason, yes but cp is for files...
[05:37] <dabaR_> cp -R will copy recursively.
[05:37] <inazad> Hi I want to install a theme for wmkaer .. how ?
[05:37] <[cro] smiley> dabaR_, thanx
[05:38] <dabaR_> nema na cemu
[05:38] <yohan> IdleOne: yeah i am
[05:38] <yohan> IdleOne: the settings remain during my session but as soon as i restart it gets resetted
[05:38] <IdleOne> yohan, then i dont know sorry...check with dabaR_
[05:38] <yohan> dabaR_: you have any idea?
[05:38] <IdleOne> hehe
[05:38] <dabaR_> :P
[05:38] <yohan> :P
[05:38] <IdleOne> lmao
[05:38] <Trae> 100M > my wireless connection that's for sure
[05:39] <yohan> dabaR_: this is my question: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=902007#post902007
[05:39] <dabaR_> yohan: ask crimsun, I have no idea.
[05:39] <yohan> duuude
[05:39] <yohan> :=)
[05:39] <Trae> now I just need gigabit connection
[05:39] <Trae> heh
[05:39] <Trae> crimsun, howdy
[05:39] <yohan> crimsun: dude, you got any idea?
[05:39] <Trae> crimsun, dapper drake is looking seck see
[05:39] <CraiZE> trae you know about XGL ?
[05:39] <Trae> CraiZE, no, sorry...
[05:39] <CraiZE> np :)
[05:39] <Trae> CraiZE, :(
[05:39] <Christopher> What file types are supported in ubuntu
[05:40] <IdleOne> Christopher, all
[05:40] <CraiZE> its cool , hahah
[05:40] <CraiZE> dont worry
[05:40] <Christopher> ok
[05:40] <CraiZE> maybe tonight some1 will be on who knows stuff :D
[05:40] <yohan> Christopher: all?
[05:40] <IdleOne> well most all
[05:41] <dabaR_> well, a lot
[05:42] <dabaR_> well some.
[05:42] <dabaR_> none really.
[05:42] <Trae> man, I have a lot of kruft laying around in my storage files directory
[05:42] <Trae> it's like a freaking attic
[05:42] <Trae> or worse
[05:42] <dabaR_> ubotu: tell Christopher about questions
[05:42] <Trae> You chunk stuff in there and just forget about it.
[05:42] <Trae> heh
[05:42] <Trae> *chuckle*
[05:42] <Trae> hmm
[05:42] <Trae> there is an idea there
[05:43] <duelboot> D-bay :)
[05:43] <Trae> heh
[05:43] <Frogzoo> Trae: a yard isn't digital, it's imperial
[05:43] <Trae> Frogzoo, hahaha
[05:43] <MenZa> Frogzoo: best quote ever ;D
[05:43] <bluey> yohan: update-rc.d alsa default
[05:44] <yohan> bluey: thanks man, but its printing the usage only
[05:45] <yohan> bluey: i get this:  System startup links for /etc/init.d/alsa already exist.
[05:47] <bluey> yohan: update-rc.d alsa defaults doesn't work?
[05:48] <GTX> Hello, I currently have two interfaces on my ubuntu server, 1. eth0 (Local network) 2. eth1 (Connection to internet) when both are up only one seems to work, either the local network or sometimes the internet. Its like there coliding with each other. Here is my interfaces  http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/urprye83.html - Anyone got any ideas what so ever?
[05:48] <sH4> duelboot // no : ) , i`m sH4 notsh4d0x
[05:49] <davix> how do I burn a DVD ISO?
[05:50] <Jimmey__> How do I restart a service?
[05:50] <mustard> hi again all
[05:50] <void^> GTX: err, they're both in the same net?.. how do you expect that to work?
[05:50] <Jimmey__> Like apache
[05:50] <Trae> Jimmey__, /etc/init.d/foo restart
[05:50] <GTX> void^, How can I fix that then? :S
[05:50] <void^> GTX: you need to assign a local ip/net to one of them.
[05:50] <Trae> Jimmey__, wiht apache you can do: apachectl restart I think
[05:50] <Trae> Jimmey__, but do configtest first
[05:50] <Frogzoo> Jimmey__: usually /etc/init.d/service restart
[05:50] <Jimmey__> Thanks] 
[05:50] <Trae> Jimmey__, apachectl configtest
[05:50] <mustard> i tried those links what you guys gave me to no avail its says unbuntu 5.1 should access the partition pretty easily
[05:50] <GTX> void^, Ok how do I assign local to eth0 ?
[05:51] <Trae> something like that
[05:51] <Trae> Jimmey__, tests to make sure the config is ok
[05:51] <Squeal> Hi Room !
[05:51] <Squeal> How is everyone?
[05:51] <purplefeltangel> 5 minutes after i start my computer, it becomes unresponsive and has lots of little vertical multicoloured lines going up and down the screen
[05:51] <void^> GTX: depends on your network, like 192.168.1.2/255.255.255.0 or 10.0.0.1/255.255.255.0
[05:52] <GTX> void^, no they have to be on the internet.
[05:52] <GTX> not that kind of local.
[05:52] <void^> ...
[05:52] <void^> GTX: your network is local.
[05:52] <Squeal> Can anyone help me with the installation of Easybuntu? I installed it on my computer. Restarted it, yet I can play mp3s or Video files.
[05:52] <lutra> purplefeltangel: sounds like something is wrong with your x configuration
[05:52] <bluey> purplefeltangel: sounds like graphics card/vertical/horizontal sync problem
[05:52] <purplefeltangel> lutra: what does that mean?
[05:52] <void^> GTX: clients on your network (which is still local) can access the internet using your server as a gateway.
[05:52] <purplefeltangel> bluey: and what does *that* mean?
[05:53] <GTX> void^, Thats what I want them to be able to do
[05:53] <lutra> purplefeltangel: reconfigure X via sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to set up your video card properly
[05:53] <GTX> void^, I want the gateway to be on the internet thoe.
[05:53] <bluey> purplefeltangel: /etc/X11/xorg.conf, you need to configure your monitors horizontal/vertical refresh rates properly
[05:53] <purplefeltangel> lutra: what if it does the same thing while i'm doing that?
[05:53] <purplefeltangel> bluey: how do i do that?
[05:53] <lutra> !tell Squel about restricted formats
[05:53] <Rug> Has anybody ever setup rsync to mirror one of the Ubuntu mirrors?
[05:53] <lutra> purplefeltangel: kill X with alt+ctrl+backspace or load in the safe mode
[05:54] <GTX> void^, any idea why its not working then? I dont want to use internal ips like 192.168* crap
[05:54] <bluey> purplefeltangel: find your monitors manufacturers specs for monitor, then sudo nano -w /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change the vert/horz sync in the monitor section
[05:54] <void^> GTX: if you want them all to be on the internet and visible you need to ring your ip and ask for ip addresses.
[05:54] <purplefeltangel> lutra: OK. but when i pressed control+alt+backspace when the computer did that before, it didn't do anything
[05:54] <void^> GTX: ring your isp, i mean
[05:54] <purplefeltangel> bluey: . . . how do i find the specs? will it be on their site?
[05:55] <lutra> purplefeltangel: try to load in the safe mode then
[05:55] <GTX> void^, They are my ip addresses !
[05:55] <GTX> I have a 64 ip range.
[05:55] <bluey> purplefeltangel: a google search will probably suffice, <monitor> horz sync
[05:55] <s-ndh-c> m
[05:55] <void^> GTX: oh.. that's different then. but you'll still need to setup a local network.
[05:55] <s-ndh-c> hm
[05:55] <GTX> void^, It is local to a degree
[05:56] <Squeal> Anyone to help me with installing an application? I am new to linux.
[05:56] <GTX> I dont understand what is the problem with it void^
[05:56] <GTX> !
[05:56] <ubotu> GTX: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:56] <GTX> lol
[05:56] <IdleOne> Squeal, what app?
[05:56] <rendo> Can someone direct me how to install the codecs for video?  I've tried following the ubuntuguide but it can't find the w32codecs and a few others things..  I think I need old suppositiories activated but I don't know which ones.
[05:56] <void^> GTX: same net, same subnet, how does your pc know where to send a packet?
[05:56] <IdleOne> !dvd
[05:56] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[05:56] <purplefeltangel> lutra & bluey, thank you
[05:56] <_jason> ubotu: tell rendo about multimedia
[05:56] <bluey> purplefeltangel: if it's a modern lcd it will probably have an info section in the OSD control for it
[05:56] <burepe> !win32
[05:56] <_jason> ubotu: tell rendo about ubuntuguide
[05:56] <ubotu> burepe: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:56] <IdleOne> !ubuntuguide
[05:56] <ubotu> I guess ubuntuguide is out of date, reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead
[05:57] <lutra> purplefeltangel: no problem
[05:57] <GTX> void^, I dont understand there both working with that, just they cancal each other out.
[05:57] <purplefeltangel> BlueDevil: whereis that?
[05:57] <GTX> only one will work at a time
[05:57] <purplefeltangel> er, sorry BlueDevil! bluey, where is that?
[05:57] <Squeal> Easybuntu. I got it from http://easybuntu.freecontrib.com And it helps to play mp3 and video files. I did what they said, pasted some code into the terminal. I still cant play the files.
[05:57] <s-ndh-c> GTX:  what are you trying to do?
[05:57] <kbrooks> Squeal: #easyubuntu. we're there
[05:58] <GTX> s-ndh-c, I have a modem which is connected via ethernet. Then that routes into the firewall server. Then out of eth0 into the switch. Then all the rest of the pcs use the firewall IP as the gateway  and so on...
[05:58] <Squeal> ok, thanks kbrooks
[05:58] <bluey> purplefeltangel: you know the monitor buttons, the thats the OSD control. usually you have things like brightness etc. in mine for example i have an info in the menu which displays the horizontal sync etc
[05:58] <purplefeltangel> bluey: oh, OK, thxu
[05:58] <kbrooks> Squeal: /join #easyubuntu
[05:58] <ICE> issues with vmware-server host is ubuntu vmsession is windows xp sp2
[05:59] <lutra> what is easybuntu?  regular *buntu is pretty darn easy :)
[05:59] <ICE> lol
[05:59] <kbrooks> lutra: use the revelant factoid
[05:59] <kbrooks> !easyubuntu
[05:59] <mustard> hmm
[05:59] <ubotu> easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu
[05:59] <Squeal> I got into that room...but I am the only one there.
[05:59] <s-ndh-c> GTX:  so you want to use the inet ips on the interfaces on your computers behind the firewall/gateway?
[05:59] <kbrooks> Squeal: #easyubuntu
[05:59] <kbrooks> Squeal: type it correctly
[06:00] <mustard> sounds like summin i need will it help me acces my windows partition
[06:00] <ICE> saambamustard
[06:00] <GTX> s-ndh-c, Kind of
[06:00] <dabaR_>  !mountwindows
[06:00] <ubotu> Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter to make your windows or mac partitions mount automatically.  If you wish to set it up yourself by hand, read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[06:00] <kbrooks> mustard: EU isnt designed for that
[06:00] <MrPong> anyone running ubuntu dapper flt 6 on an amd x2 + asus nforce 4?
[06:00] <GTX> s-ndh-c, but the thing is only eth0 and eth1 works at the same time
[06:00] <dabaR_> !daper
[06:00] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, dabaR_
[06:00] <dabaR_> pah
[06:00] <dabaR_> !dapper
[06:00] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[06:00] <IdleOne> !dapper
[06:01] <IdleOne> Dapper > Breezy
[06:01] <IdleOne> heh
[06:01] <kbrooks> IdleOne: oh be quiet
[06:01] <ICE> using dapper right now
[06:01] <IdleOne> kbrooks, :)
[06:01] <Frogzoo> IdleOne: please don't tempt the newbs into the marshes
[06:01] <ICE> and not a fress install
[06:02] <ICE> fresh install
[06:02] <IdleOne> Frogzoo, wasnt trying to but I should of been more specific I meant the version # is >
[06:02] <Frogzoo> right
[06:03] <s-ndh-c> hm
[06:03] <r-emmer> anyone experience with acer aspire 5670 and ubuntu?
[06:03] <s-ndh-c> we are doing similar thing in our datacenter
[06:03] <mustard> it says no useable windows partitions found it is on another drive tho
[06:03] <MrPong> my ubuntu installer used framebuffer console correctly, but when I installed dapper, it does not use it. how do i ensure it uses framebuffer?
[06:04] <ICE> does anyone use vmware in here
[06:04] <s-ndh-c> all servers have their external ips applied to the interface and the cisco router routes stuff directly to those ips
[06:04] <ICE> for a win vmsession
[06:05] <grievre> protip: if sshd suddenly starts breaking in really weird
[06:05] <grievre> ways
[06:05] <ICE> who is using a cisco router ? must be rich
[06:05] <grievre> there probably is a reason, and it probably is something you should pay attention to
[06:05] <infamouse> i just installed ubuntu and i'm trying to connect to my wireless network using WPA TKIP, are there any HOWTO's for this?
[06:05] <s-ndh-c> but this router is directly connected via 100mbit/s to redundant backbone
[06:05] <grievre> ICE: not if it's a used one
[06:05] <ompaul> !tell infamouse about wireless
[06:05] <ICE> there like 800 over low end ones
[06:05] <ompaul> infamouse, read message from bot please
[06:05] <infamouse> ompaul, thanks!
[06:07] <mustard> dude this sucks i got 2 hard drives right 1 SATA and one IDE i thought i installed on the SATA its got 2 partitions and the ide where windows was has got 2 one being tiny and the other one which is huge is about right for the total amount of space i was using with windows so that must be it but its not letting me mount it
[06:07] <ICE> grievre --- what model use your router also do you have AP too
[06:07] <mustard> even used that scricpt
[06:07] <grievre> ICE: my router is an openbsd machine :)
[06:08] <ICE> just can't spell today sorry
[06:08] <caglar_> does anyone knoe a better archive manager than file roller?
[06:08] <EvilDin> am why .htacess doesn't work
[06:08] <arrinmurr> caglar_: ark
[06:08] <EvilDin> it still leave guys in
[06:08] <EvilDin> any idea
[06:08] <ICE> you just said you had a cisco router didn't you
[06:09] <caglar_> arrinmurr: thats too KDE :P
[06:09] <Pupeno> how do I see the emails as threads on evolution ?
[06:09] <EvilDin> should be something put in conf files
[06:09] <arrinmurr> caglar_: well, kde apps are better ;)
[06:10] <twidget> I'm fed up with Windoze! Is there a video capture/editing/podcasting program for Linux akin to Pinnacle Studio?
[06:10] <yohan> bluey: it did work but i got an System startup links for /etc/init.d/alsa already exist.
[06:11] <alejo> hello
[06:11] <giorgio> ciao
[06:11] <yohan> bluey: as a reply
[06:11] <alejo> I need some hell
[06:11] <alejo> help
[06:11] <alejo> :p
[06:11] <bluey> yohan: did it fix the mixer settings saving problem?
[06:11] <alejo> I cant see any video or ear MP3 file
[06:11] <MenZa> !tell alejo  about restrictedformats
[06:11] <lutra> !tell alejo about mp3
[06:11] <mustard> lol
[06:11] <yohan> bluey: i havnt restarted yet...i cant right now, do you think it will? thank you anyhow
[06:12] <mustard> how do i log in as root
[06:12] <purplefeltangel> lutra: the command you gave me didn't work. it told me the file didn't exist.
[06:12] <MenZa> !tell mustard about rootsudo
[06:12] <purplefeltangel> bluey: i did the thing you told me to but i couldn't figure out how to actually edit it . . ..
[06:12] <s-ndh-c> sudo -s?
[06:12] <link__> !sudo
[06:12] <ubotu> I guess sudo is a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[06:12] <lutra> purplefeltangel: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg didn't work?
[06:12] <mustard> ty
[06:13] <MenZa> np.
[06:13] <purplefeltangel> lutra: OH, i didn't write down the second X. :) ok, h/o will try
[06:13] <ICE> or just sudo -s
[06:13] <alejo> thnks
[06:13] <bluey> yohan: well, if it didn't, there is one other possible thing you can. In applications->sound and video->volume control there are options for selecting mixers devices in file->devices. You could try changing that
[06:13] <toby24> !xgl
[06:13] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[06:13] <CiBoarder> Hello there, i try to install the nvidia driver, no i think i have to kill Xserv, but he isnt stopping it. I use the /etc/init.d/gdm stope is thta right ?
[06:14] <rendo> Thanks Jason.
[06:14] <pinkmermaid> Erf... How can I create a launcher to open a java .jar file?
[06:15] <bluey> purplefeltangel: http://rafb.net/paste/results/fdIt0W74.html, thats my monitor section in xorg.conf if that helps give you an idea of what it should look like. obviously you need to replace the vert/horz settings with your monitors
[06:16] <loko_> helo
[06:16] <mustard> ahh man
[06:16] <infamouse> ompaul, my wireless card currently works on regular WEP networks, so do i still need to install the ndiswrappers?
[06:16] <purplefeltangel> lutra: sorry. i'm there but it has something i don't understand.
[06:17] <bluey> purplefeltangel: you can edit xorg.conf using a terminal by doing: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:17] <lutra> purplefeltangel: what is it?
[06:17] <purplefeltangel> bluey: thank you; will try that
[06:17] <bluey> purplefeltangel: k
[06:17] <Etienne> Hello! Im running dapper, I have a ATI Card, and I try to run the restricted ATI driver from the repos...
[06:17] <purplefeltangel> lutra: it's asking me to select which driver, and i don't know
[06:17] <loko_> could sombody tell me why i can't set splashimage in grub
[06:17] <loko_> ??
[06:17] <ICE> where is the default dir for apache2 httpd.conf ubuntu spreads out all the files
[06:17] <purplefeltangel> bluey: wait, aren't you not supposed to use sudo to run programs like gedit?
[06:17] <lutra> bluey: if purplefeltangel finds info about the card and driver it's easy to use dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:17] <Etienne> This comes when I try to load the module: FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.15-20-386/volatile/fglrx.ko): Operation not permitted
[06:17] <Etienne> failed.
[06:17] <ICE> anyone know
[06:18] <sudharsh> loko_:paste ur grub.conf somewhere
[06:18] <lutra> purplefeltangel: what's you video card driver?
[06:18] <purplefeltangel> lutra: i THINK NVidia Geforce
[06:18] <Zarephath> anyone how do I get samba to re-read the smb.conf file?
[06:19] <bluey> lutra: sudo lspci should tell him which graphics card he is using, and consequently the driver he needs
[06:19] <wsjunior> does anybody here use gizmo?
[06:19] <lutra> bluey: yup
[06:19] <Etienne> FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.15-20-386/volatile/fglrx.ko): Operation not permitted
[06:19] <Etienne> failed.
[06:19] <lutra> purplefeltangel: run lspci and use that info for reconfiguring X
[06:19] <Etienne> Anyone know something.
[06:20] <purplefeltangel> lutra: i did that but it's like, a bunch of stuff. which one will be my video driver?
[06:20] <bluey> lutra: it could be either the monitor sync or the graphics card, it's hard to tell without ssh.ing into his system
[06:20] <purplefeltangel> bluey: i'm a she, please :)
[06:20] <bluey> purplefeltangel: k :)
[06:20] <ICE> nevermind i found it
[06:21] <lutra> purplefeltangel: i'm not familiar with nvidia geforce cards...i can't imagine someone in hear doesn't have and have X set up properly
[06:21] <purplefeltangel> lutra: oh. uh, how do you scroll up in a ttyterminalthinger?
[06:21] <bluey> lutra: he has nvidia card?
[06:21] <loko_> ... aaa and where i can find that grub.conf ?? i was changing manu.lst for that splashimage i wrote som lines .. and nothing
[06:21] <lutra> bluey: yup she does
[06:22] <plagerism> exit
[06:22] <bluey> purplefeltangel: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[06:22] <lutra> purplefeltangel: what a ttyterminalthinger?
[06:22] <purplefeltangel> bluey: nvidia-glx has no installation candidate
[06:22] <bluey> sec
[06:22] <purplefeltangel> lutra: like, a terminal that's not in Gnome?? when you press ctrl+alt+f1?
[06:23] <loko_> sudharsh: ... aaa and where i can find that grub.conf ?? i was changing manu.lst for that splashimage i wrote som lines .. and nothing
[06:23] <lutra> purplefeltangel: oh...well you could type telinit 1 or 3...i forget which in a term
[06:23] <bluey> purplefeltangel: you might need to change your sources list
[06:24] <purplefeltangel> bluey: i'm doing an apt-get update; will that help?
[06:24] <sudharsh> loko_:oh sorry..thats menu.lst alrite..confused with my mom's laptop running fc
[06:24] <XFABIUSS> ciao
[06:24] <bluey> purplefeltangel: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:24] <sudharsh> loko_:just adding splash at the end would suffice
[06:24] <purplefeltangel> bluey: but what do i change?
[06:25] <loko_> sudharsh: ok i'll try but i already add line like splashimage(hd0,3/boot/grub ... and nothing
[06:25] <XFABIUSS> ciao
[06:25] <XFABIUSS> mi rispondi?
[06:26] <sudharsh> loko_:wait a sec..
[06:26] <purplefeltangel> !it
[06:26] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[06:26] <Stormx2> Whats a good packet sniffer for ubuntu?
[06:26] <bluey> purplefeltangel: replace with this file: http://rafb.net/paste/results/y66dZn85.html
[06:26] <purplefeltangel> bluey: i can't really go there right now . . . :/
[06:26] <Juffy> hi
[06:27] <bluey> ok
[06:27] <Draconicus> My midi card crashed and there's a note playing forever. I have to restart the goddamned computer, now
[06:27] <sudharsh> loko_:yes add 'splash' at the end of the kernel u r bootin
[06:27] <purplefeltangel> bluey: nvm that, i did apt-get update and now it's working
[06:27] <arrinmurr> Stormx2: ethereal
[06:27] <Stormx2> arrinmurr: OK
[06:27] <loko_> ooo ok i'll try thx be back
[06:27] <loko_> :)
[06:27] <loko_> C U
[06:27] <bluey> purplefeltangel: ok, good
[06:28] <Juffy> i have created a local repository of deb files.. i added it inside sources.list do apt-get update and apt-get upgrade.. but when  I issue command sudo dpkg -i firestarter or sort it asks for dependencies but the dependencies is already in the debs folder.. how do i force install of dependencies with dpkg command?
[06:29] <MisterN> cu
[06:29] <purplefeltangel>  bluey: what will i do when this thing finishes downloading?
[06:30] <bluey> purplefeltangel: reboot and see if it works
[06:30] <purplefeltangel> bluey: OK . . . .
[06:30] <oklinux> what is the link for ubuntu where is show you how to install different software like real player and plugin ?
[06:31] <purplefeltangel> well then i gotta restart. brb
[06:31] <bluey> purplefeltangel: if it doesn't then it's likely the monitor horz/vert syncs as i described previously
[06:32] <scorchsaber> ippon seoi-nage! Saremane!
[06:35] <celiagj> oooololllll
[06:35] <_jason> oklinux: help.ubuntu.com , wiki.ubuntu.com
[06:36] <EvilDin> ubuntu apache2 i need to protect some directory with pass, please need whole description, i make .htacces and .htpasswd but apache2 doesn't make folder protected
[06:39] <wsjunior> trying to run gizmo on ubuntu i get "gizmo: simple.c:557: snd_mixer_selem_get_capture_volume_range: Assertive `elem' failed"
[06:39] <wsjunior> does anybody know what could be happening?
[06:40] <justin_> hey guys, i'm trying to upgrade my kernel to support multiple processors (SMP)...I don't know where to start on Ubuntu
[06:40] <justin_> any thoughts?
[06:40] <K-Zodron> Hoho, anyone knows how I can check the current CPU/ram usage in ubuntu? =d
[06:41] <Frogzoo> K-Zodron: top
[06:41] <justin_> at the command line, top
[06:41] <justin_> in gnome, applications->system tools-> system monitor
[06:42] <K-Zodron> thanks :p
[06:42] <Thread--> My KDE fails on start, so I need to reinstall it. How do I reinstall the whole package 'kubuntu-desktop'?
[06:43] <MenZa> Umm... I've shut down X - but can't really shutdown my computer.
[06:43] <MenZa> sudo shutdown now just kills all applications and logs me out
[06:43] <XFABIUSS> help
[06:44] <tat2wolf> hello all
[06:45] <bluey> MenZa: sudo poweroff or sudo shutdown -h now
[06:46] <Gosha> .. i've installed wine via downloading the old package and then using the dpkg -i command ... now how do i get it into the program list?
[06:47] <IdleOne> Gosha, program list?
[06:48] <Gosha> ... yeah... applications list
[06:48] <Gosha> as an application
[06:48] <Gosha> ... if that's possible
[06:48] <s-ndh-c> you mean in the gnome menu?
[06:48] <IdleOne> Gosha, to run a windows app cd to the dir where the .exe is then type wine.progamname.exe to install/run the app
[06:49] <IdleOne> Gosha, to run a windows app cd to the dir where the .exe is then type wine progamname.exe to install/run the app
[06:49] <s-ndh-c> i think the menu is generated from *.desktop files it finds in /usr/share somewhere
[06:50] <bluey> there is a menuedit
[06:50] <bluey> editor*
[06:50] <s-ndh-c> ok
[06:50] <s-ndh-c> :P
[06:50] <Gosha> ... wine.programname.exe  ... ? not the dir?
[06:50] <bluey> sudo apt-get install smeg && smeg
[06:50] <IdleOne> Gosha, where is the .exe?
[06:51] <s-ndh-c> cd to the dir first where you have installed this .exe program
[06:51] <Gosha> . /windows/progs/prog.exe
[06:51] <s-ndh-c> or try the full path to the file
[06:51] <Gosha> ... oh, the same command as i dos?
[06:51] <Gosha> cd /windows/progs/prog.exe
[06:51] <Gosha> then wine.prg.exe?
[06:51] <IdleOne> then
[06:51] <bluey> wine is installed in ~/.wine
[06:51] <s-ndh-c> like wine ~/.wine/driver_c/windows/progs/prog.exe
[06:51] <smo> How would I go about convince 'whois' to recognise .eu domains ?
[06:52] <s-ndh-c> *drive_c
[06:52] <Gosha> ...huh?
[06:52] <IdleOne> wine progame.exe replace program with the actual file name
[06:52] <Gosha> ~/. ?
[06:52] <bluey> wine is installed in wine ~/.wine/drive_c/Progra*/ ... blah /<file.exe>
[06:52] <toby24> Hallo
[06:52] <Gosha> k.. i'll ytu, brb :P
[06:52] <Gosha> try*
[06:52] <toby24> hab da eine iso datei die ich gerne auf cd brennen mchte habe aber keine ahnung wie ich das machen soll!
[06:53] <toby24> knnt ihr mir helfen?
[06:53] <bluey> halo doesn/
[06:53] <bluey> doesn't work*
[06:53] <toby24> wre super
[06:53] <bluey> tried it :P
[06:54] <bluey> nor does aliens vs predator, which is such a good game :/
[06:56] <Gosha> ...doff
[06:57] <slopez_> como te llamas
[06:58] <IdleOne> !es
[06:58] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:58] <pedorriyo> hola
[06:59] <sorush20> hi guys
[06:59] <EvilDin> anyone know why hard link is not permitted ln -d /home/ucenci/ ucenci
[06:59] <slopez_> que eres una ia o un io
[06:59] <dockane> hi all .. is there any known issue with gnome-terminal, its pseudo transparency and  ati cards ? fromt time to time scrolling on gnome-terminal (i.e. less or nano) takes its time for _each_ line
[06:59] <Frogzoo> EvilDin: you have to be root, & hard links can't cross file systems
[06:59] <IdleOne> slopez_, por favor hablas in ingles o escribe /join #ubuntu-es :)
[07:00] <EvilDin> i am root
[07:00] <EvilDin> :D
[07:00] <EvilDin> and it is on same partition same systen
[07:00] <Trae> any way to ascertain what type of Motherboard you have withoutrebooting?
[07:01] <IdleOne> lspci?
[07:02] <simonpca> i'm having a trouble with wvdial
[07:02] <cinder> hello
[07:02] <cinder> what the url for multiverse repository
[07:02] <cinder> ?
[07:02] <IdleOne> !epos
[07:02] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, IdleOne
[07:02] <IdleOne> !repos
[07:02] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[07:02] <simonpca> when i try to connect, i got something like "carreer not fond"
[07:02] <lutra> !R
[07:02] <ubotu> well, r is a powerful statistical program.  sudo apt-get install r-base r-recommended r-base-html
[07:02] <simonpca> what is it?
[07:03] <IdleOne>  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[07:03] <lutra> R is more than just that :)
[07:03] <lutra> R is a graduate school thesis machine :)
[07:03] <Frogzoo> EvilDin: dunno, the man page says "allow the superuser to attempt to hard link directories (note: will probably fail due to system restrictions, even for the superuser)"
[07:03] <cinder> IdleOne, I know how to add them
[07:03] <cinder> I need the multiverse URL, please
[07:04] <Frogzoo> !repos
[07:04] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[07:04] <IdleOne> cinder, that is the link
[07:04] <EvilDin> aha but why
[07:04] <cinder> IdleOne, lets see again :P
[07:04] <kbrooks> ubotu: easysource
[07:04] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[07:04] <IdleOne> the urls for multiverse are same as universe just need to add " multiverse " to all lines that end with universe in /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:04] <dockane> !channel dapper
[07:04] <ubotu> dockane: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:05] <calloc> Im having trouble getting folder sharing going on my ubuntu box, anyone willing to lend a hand?
[07:05] <sfar> can someone name a good ftp-server (gui is prefered)
[07:05] <kbrooks> dockane: !dapper :)
[07:05] <dockane> !dapper
[07:05] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[07:05] <simonpca> !wvdial
[07:05] <ubotu> simonpca: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:05] <dockane> kbrooks: thx
[07:05] <kbrooks> sfar: er, gftp. but thats a client
[07:05] <Frogzoo> EvilDin: well, from ucenci, which directory is .. ? it's ambiguous
[07:05] <sfar> well, i need a server :)
[07:05] <EvilDin> yes it is directory to direcotry
[07:06] <lucaaas> the shell seems a lot slower than it was before, does anyone have a clue why?
[07:06] <kbrooks> sfar: well, there is no such thing as a "gui server"
[07:06] <lucaaas> when i open a terminal it takes some seconds before i get a prompt
[07:06] <calloc> anyone give me  adig out with samba?
[07:07] <sfar> kbrooks: sucky :)
[07:08] <G0SUB_> !tell G0SUB_ about in
[07:08] <Gosha> ...how do i start winefile?
[07:09] <Gosha> ... or is that only in the latest version?
[07:11] <sfar> kbrooks: i guess you were wrong
[07:11] <sfar> "PureAdmin is a Gtk 2.x GUI over PureFTPd that aims to
[07:11] <sfar> make easier the task of configuring said FTP server."
[07:11] <oklinux> what is the kiwi link for ubuntu installation on realplayer and java ?
[07:12] <NickGarvey> !java
[07:12] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[07:12] <NickGarvey> !realplayer
[07:12] <ubotu> well, realplayer is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:13] <tat2wolf> got a question for anybody here...    anybody worked with wyse 60 terminals....
[07:16] <ygetartson> hi. i need some advice.
[07:16] <ygetartson> i got 2 sound cards.
[07:16] <ygetartson> 1 internal, onboard.
[07:16] <ygetartson> 1 usb
[07:17] <slavik> what chips are they?
[07:17] <ygetartson> i go to system-preferences-sound
[07:17] <ygetartson> or audio
[07:17] <ygetartson> umm-
[07:17] <ygetartson> let me see
[07:17] <Ongo> hi people. I get a "Greeter application error..." on clean istall of 5.10 amd64. Can someone help me?
[07:17] <slavik> the onboard is some kind of ac97 base prolly
[07:17] <slavik> what's the usb sound card?
[07:17] <ygetartson> via82 chipset the internal
[07:17] <ygetartson> ac97, sure
[07:18] <slavik> and the usb?
[07:18] <ygetartson> its an audigy 2 nx
[07:18] <slavik> usb is better :)
[07:18] <ircuk1> hi everyone
[07:18] <ygetartson> it is.
[07:18] <slavik> Ongo: are you able to log in?
[07:18] <ygetartson> so i go to that menu item,
[07:18] <ygetartson> and make the nx default.
[07:18] <ircuk1> does anyone know how to find the root password on hoary hedgehog
[07:19] <ygetartson> but: this setting is ignored
[07:19] <slavik> ircuk1: there isn't one
[07:19] <Tomcat_> !rootsudo
[07:19] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[07:19] <IdleOne> !root
[07:19] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[07:19] <ircuk1> what a crock
[07:19] <slavik> ygetartson: do you ever use the onboard sound?
[07:19] <clast> hi
[07:19] <ygetartson> not intentionally.
[07:19] <ircuk1> what about breezy
[07:19] <Tomcat_> ircuk1: Same.
[07:19] <slavik> ygetartson: disable it through BIOS I say
[07:19] <ygetartson> bios is unable to
[07:19] <ygetartson> do this
[07:19] <slavik> ircuk1: that's all of them
[07:19] <Cin> ircuk1, what secure system would ever reveal any password?
[07:19] <ircuk1> what is the point of that
[07:19] <IdleOne> ircuk1, ubuntu uses sudo
[07:19] <Tomcat_> ircuk1: Read the wiki page.
[07:19] <slavik> disable the onboard sound?
[07:19] <Tomcat_> !root
[07:20] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[07:20] <clast> can anyone install libgtk2.0-dev on dapper?
[07:20] <ygetartson> its a yakumo laptop
[07:20] <Tomcat_> ircuk1: It tells many advantages of the sudo system.
[07:20] <slavik> oh, I see
[07:20] <ygetartson> i looked up the bios yesterday
[07:20] <Tomcat_> ircuk1: + how to enable root pw if you need it.
[07:20] <slavik> no option then?
[07:20] <ygetartson> no
[07:20] <slavik> I meant to disable onboard
[07:20] <baua> ?how can i make a ramdisk with ubuntu`
[07:20] <baua> ?
[07:20] <ygetartson> i found that you got to put a line into some file
[07:20] <Ongo> No. That's the problem. I can get Gnome to start by booting recovery mode and writing startx. That way it doesn't even try to log plus I get "Failure initializing HAL" error.
[07:20] <Cin> ircuk1, it's possible to use a sudo argument to stay in root, if required. Or just sudo bash.
[07:20] <ygetartson> no option avaailable.
[07:21] <ircuk1> i use fedora core 3 at work far better
[07:21] <ircuk1> i reckon
[07:21] <Cin> No one cares.
[07:21] <Cin> :)
[07:21] <ygetartson> its the etc modprobe.d alsa-base file
[07:21] <stephelt1n> how do i update all the packages on my system?
[07:21] <ygetartson> but i did that already!
[07:21] <mustard_> hi guys what version of java do i need for breezy
[07:22] <ygetartson> so that onboard sound wont take control.
[07:22] <ircuk1> this is currently running on vmware on a windaz platform
[07:22] <slavik> stephelt1n: apt-get upgrade I think
[07:22] <stephelt1n> slavik: thx
[07:22] <ygetartson> nonetheless, gnome menu ignores my setting attempts.
[07:22] <slavik> stephelt1n: I use synaptic ... it has an option to mark all upgrades and such
[07:22] <Cin> ircuk1, click the X at the top right of VMWare, please.
[07:23] <ircuk1> how come
[07:23] <bliss1__> hi
[07:23] <kbrooks> cin: shush
[07:23] <kbrooks> ircuk1: ignore him
[07:23] <ircuk1> cin is funny......... not
[07:23] <IdleOne> Cin, no need to be rude . if he prefers slackare thats his choice
[07:23] <darkram> morning all
[07:23] <inazad> !wiki splashscreen
[07:23] <Cin> IdleOne, I didn't know that.
[07:24] <IdleOne> !usplash
[07:24] <ubotu> I guess usplash is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto
[07:24] <ygetartson> thats so stupid. system, prefs, audio, default sound card: change to nx.
[07:24] <ygetartson> next time: system, prefs, audio, default sound card: onboard.
[07:24] <ygetartson> wine
[07:24] <darkram> I have a question with Ubuntu, maybe someone can help me?
[07:24] <ygetartson> hjlp...
[07:25] <jake1> darkram what is the question?
[07:25] <axisys> looking for a good itune like app w/o using codeweaver
[07:25] <Ongo>  hi people. I get a "Greeter application error..." on clean istall of 5.10 amd64. Can someone help me?
[07:25] <IdleOne> darkram,  ask away
[07:25] <kbrooks> darkram: Ask
[07:25] <slavik> Ongo: are you still able to log in?
[07:25] <darkram> I'm trying to install the latest NVIDIA drivers. the installer doesnt like gcc 4.0 how can I use a later version?
[07:25] <errpast98> Looking for a simple sip server to test a sip implementation
[07:25] <IdleOne> darkram, sudo apt-get install  build-essential
[07:25] <jake1> darkram upgrade gcc
[07:25] <errpast98> many choices - sipx, asterisk, etc.
[07:26] <Ongo> No. That's the problem. I can get Gnome to start by booting recovery mode and writing startx. That way it doesn't even try to log plus I get "Failure initializing HAL" error.
[07:26] <Ongo> No. That's the problem. I can get Gnome to start by booting recovery mode and writing startx. That way it doesn't even try to log plus I get "Failure initializing HAL" error.
[07:26] <slavik> darkram: did you sudo apt-get install build-essential?
[07:26] <errpast98> Simpler the better, no pbx needed for this testing
[07:26] <darkram> Yup
[07:26] <jake1> isn't it in the package manager thingy
[07:26] <darkram> The NVIDIA complains about compiling the kernal with gcc 4.0 and wants gcc 3.2(?)
[07:26] <slavik> Ongo: did you get the error right away or was it after using the system for a while?
[07:27] <clast> can anyone install libgtk2.0-dev on dapper?????
[07:27] <Ongo> on secon boot up.
[07:27] <ompaul> clast, I guess they could, but it would be better to ask in the dapper channel #ubuntu+1 :-)
[07:27] <IdleOne> clast, try #ubuntu+1 for help with dapper
[07:28] <Ongo> first was technicaly still a part of installation
[07:28] <Cin> darkram, there are various GCC versions on synaptic. It is possible to uninstall 4.0 and install 3.2 temporarily. Try that?
[07:28] <clast> ompaul, IdleOne thx :)
[07:28] <Ongo> on second boot up.
[07:29] <ompaul> darkram, >> sudo apt-get install build-essential gcc-3.4 << should help that a little
[07:29] <ygetartson> i go crazy.
[07:29] <darkram> Thanks all, I'll try getting the gcc-3.4
[07:30] <holobyted> what cd ripper do you guys recommend?
[07:30] <IdleOne> gnomebaker
[07:30] <ompaul> darkram, to read about darkram read this for ubuntu howto https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[07:30] <scorchsaber> holobyted: thats almost like asking: "Vim or Emacs"
[07:30] <IdleOne> nano
[07:30] <scorchsaber> holobyted: Multiplied by.001
[07:31] <holobyted> I figured as much, but Sound-Juicer isn't doing crap for me :p
[07:31] <Cin> My NVIDIA driver came with Ubuntu. Why didn't his?
[07:31] <Cin> On les packages.
[07:31] <scorchsaber> holobyted: To be honest, I have no idea which to use. Try googling it
[07:31] <ompaul> Cin, read that web page he is using an nvidia driver
[07:31] <darkram> ompaul I tried that, then I was trying the manual instructions for replacing the video drivers on the site.
[07:32] <holobyted> compiling latest sound-juicer, see if it stops crashing on me
[07:32] <Cin> Yah. So did I.
[07:32] <ompaul> darkram, well the few times I have worked with binary drivers that page just worked for me
[07:32] <ompaul> darkram, there is more than one driver
[07:34] <darkram> I'm trying to get Cedega to run right in the end, it says 3D Acceleration tests failed.
[07:35] <_Dez> how do i know if i installed hoary or breezy?
[07:35] <xfcefreak> darkram: did you install nvidia-settings nvidia-glx?
[07:35] <xfcefreak> _Dez: lab_release -a
[07:35] <xfcefreak> lsb*
[07:35] <_Dez> ty
[07:35] <darkram> Yeah
[07:35] <shiv> where do i find ~/.Xresources
[07:36] <xfcefreak> darkram: did you run the enable command and than sudo dpkg-recofigure xserver-xorg and set the drivers to nvidia
[07:36] <xfcefreak> shiv: in your home folder
[07:36] <ompaul> darkram, I *strongly* suggest you go over that page again from top to bottom it should get you going, or you are the only person for whom it is not working and see what xfcefreak says - it is vital when you do the >>sudo dpk-reconfigure xserver-xorg<< you choose the correct nvidia-glx and then you restart X
[07:36] <xfcefreak> shiv: if using gnome click on view than show hidden files
[07:37] <xfcefreak> ;) i feel smart today ty ompaul
[07:37] <nino> hi all
[07:37] <ompaul> xfcefreak, yw :)
[07:37] <nino> couldnt someone tell me if theres such a thing as a shell scripting IDE?
[07:38] <xfcefreak> nino: anjuta
[07:38] <darkram> Based on the webpage you showed me. The only step I could not do was #11 it said to  select inux-restricted-modules-686 which i could not find on the list
[07:38] <shiv> Its not there I did all that I am trying to do this:  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=126023
[07:38] <ompaul> xfcefreak, you waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh, what crack is that, nano, or nedit
[07:38] <ompaul> xfcefreak, or gedit
[07:39] <Gosha> can you wine vlc?
[07:39] <Gosha> so it goes gui?
[07:39] <Gosha> .. or does it go cmd?
[07:39] <stephelton> what's the xorg package called??
[07:39] <nino> i was using gedit but the project is quite big so im after a IDE to keep track of all the suff
[07:39] <xfcefreak> lol
[07:39] <Gosha> you'll find out if you do rm -r *
[07:39] <baua> is there a mkinitrd pendant in ubuntu?
[07:40] <ompaul> stephelton, xserver-xorg ?
[07:40] <xfcefreak> darkram: sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-     after the - put the output of uname -r
[07:40] <stephelton> ompaul, thx
[07:40] <xfcefreak> so it will look like linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-10-386 or whatever yours is
[07:41] <stephelton> i like how every distro has a different name for its xorg package
[07:41] <Ongo> hi people. I get a "Greeter application error..." on clean istall of 5.10 amd64. Can someone help me?
[07:41] <Trae> Does anyone here know of a PCI (desktop) wireless 802.11g card that works out of the box with Ubuntu Dapper Drake - No ndiswrapper crap etc need?  Just fully functional?   And before someone gets uboto to tell me about the wireless netowkring page with 4 billion cards on it... I'm looking for some human feedback here.
[07:41] <darkram> k, I'll try it again. thanks folks.
[07:41] <xfcefreak> stephelton: they do? i thought it was xorg (xfree86) all over linux
[07:42] <stephelton> xfcefreak, well for example, in ubuntu its xserver-xorg
[07:42] <ompaul> Trae, orinoco hmmmmmmm spelling
[07:42] <Trae> ompaul, heh
[07:42] <xfcefreak> Ongo: how about the error? if its longer than one line please use pastebin
[07:42] <AngryElf> why won't firefox allow me to select /home/username as my default download location?......whenever I select that it defaults back to Desktop
[07:42] <infamouse> i'm trying to connect to my WPA, TKIP wireless network...I installed my wireless card's driver through ndiswrapper, but i'm not sure what to do next to configure my card to connect to my network, anyone have any documentation?
[07:42] <Trae> ompaul, got a model number?
[07:43] <ompaul> Trae, afik they all use the same chip set so sorry not much use there
[07:43] <ompaul> Trae, some of us believe in wires :)
[07:43] <Trae> :(
[07:43] <Trae> heh
[07:43] <Trae> Some of us can't run wires as far as I need to
[07:43] <enursha> how do i mount a cue/bin image?
[07:43] <ompaul> ahhh
[07:43] <Trae> I've got an area of my house I just can't physically route cable to it seems
[07:44] <Trae> without tearing my house apart completely
[07:44] <roryy> !info binchunk
[07:44] <roryy> oopth
[07:44] <roryy> !info bchunk
[07:44] <Ongo> GUI is allready up. It's a message box. It wont let me login, and after that GUI crashes and I'm left in console. What's past bin?
[07:44] <ubotu> bchunk: (CD image format conversion from bin/cue to iso/cdr), section universe/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 1.2.0-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 12 kB, Installed size: 68 kB
[07:44] <void^> i've had pretty good experiences with atheors chipsets
[07:44] <ompaul> Trae, well in that case shoot cable into the attic and then drop down on each of the walls through the floors that works for me :)
[07:45] <void^> *atheros
[07:45] <Trae> heh
[07:45] <Trae> void^, I've got the ACX111 right now
[07:45] <enursha> cheers
[07:45] <Trae> and it worked under Breezy at one time
[07:45] <Trae> and then it seems it died or something
[07:45] <baua> why can nobody say me how to build a initial ramdisk??
[07:45] <nino> :)
[07:45] <Trae> :/
[07:46] <ompaul> Trae, wait a couple of days - but first report a bug against what though
[07:46] <roryy> baua: maybe mkinitramfs ?
[07:47] <ompaul> baua, initrd.img ?
[07:47] <CraiZE> is there a GUI for grub ?
[07:47] <CraiZE> so i can configure it properly :D
[07:47] <errpast98> vncviewer <localhost>:1 works for me
[07:47] <priyank> hey, how do i configure my soundcard ?
[07:47] <priyank> alpa: :)
[07:47] <errpast98> But the TSC client fails with "error" but no further info
[07:47] <alpa> priyank:)
[07:47] <priyank> sudo alsaconf says command not found
[07:47] <priyank> am i missing something?
[07:48] <ompaul> burepe,  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelByHandHowto
[07:48] <priyank> ompaul: is there an howto for setting up sound ?
[07:48] <ompaul> baua,  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelByHandHowto
[07:48] <void^> Trae: tried the driver at http://acx100.sourceforge.net ?
[07:48] <xfcefreak> ubotu tell priyank about sound
[07:48] <priyank> thanks xfcefreak
[07:48] <xfcefreak> yw
[07:49] <priyank> ubotu tell alpa about sound
[07:49] <priyank> :P
[07:49] <J_P> hi all
[07:49] <CraiZE> anyone ? :P
[07:49] <J_P> people, are there some software as babylon for Linux ?
[07:49] <AngryElf> hey all, i've changed the default download option in firefoxs about:config but it still downloads things to Desktop, has anybody heard of this?
[07:49] <ompaul> !tell CraiZE about grub
[07:49] <CraiZE> thx
[07:49] <ompaul> CraiZE, that should help
[07:49] <scorchsaber> CraiZe: I don't think so. Maybe with the other one? Can't remember what it's called
[07:50] <Ongo> hi people. I get a "Greeter application error..." on clean istall of 5.10 amd64. Can someone help me?
[07:50] <CraiZE> lilo ?
[07:51] <ompaul> CraiZE, what do you actually want to do with it anyway?
[07:51] <CraiZE> i want to make the default OS windows
[07:52] <CraiZE> and change the boot order
[07:52] <CraiZE> :)
[07:52] <ompaul> CraiZE, that is so simple that looking for a gui was a distraction
[07:52] <CraiZE> lol
[07:52] <CraiZE> its ok :P
[07:52] <CraiZE> im following the guide :)
[07:53] <ompaul> CraiZE, well change the value of the number for "Default" from 0 to what ever stanza (paragraph kind of thing) that other thing is on and save the file
[07:53] <horse> aaaaaaeeeee
[07:54] <ompaul> horse, ?
[07:54] <horse> res
[07:54] <J_P> people, are there some software as babylon for Linux ?
[07:54] <jerware> fellaz
[07:55] <garyl> new
[07:55] <gutiszz> server irc.data.lt +6668
[07:55] <scorchsaber>  J_P: what is babylon?
[07:55] <gutiszz> n
[07:55] <sque> Hi
[07:55] <sque> how can I add more locales?
[07:55] <sque> do I need to recompile glibc ?
[07:55] <CraiZE> gonna try, brb
[07:55] <stephelton> i've installed xserver-xorg but i dont have a startx command as i'm used to... can i see a list of files flagged as executable in that package?
[07:56] <IdleOne> J_P,  sudo apt-get install  babytrans
[07:56] <Schmidt> stephelton : you need to 'apt-get install x-window-system'
[07:56] <IdleOne> scorchsaber, Front-end to use the dictionaries from Babylon Translator
[07:56] <stephelton> Schmidt, oh. im doing kde right now; will it install that as a dependency?
[07:57] <Christopher> How do I use a link sys adapter with ubuntu
[07:57] <s|k_> :/
[07:58] <NickGarvey> Christopher: wireless?
[07:58] <Schmidt> stephelton : dont think so, but i'm not sure
[07:58] <Christopher> yues
[07:58] <Christopher> *yes its wireless
[07:58] <s|k_> 'my document' button on my ms keyboard causes ubuntu to crash and the computer to shut down, anyone know how to turn those buttons off? I tried the keyboard manager.
[07:59] <IdleOne> s|k_, check the keyboard shortcuts?
[07:59] <Mabus06> How hard would it be to setup a mail server with virtual domains. I only need 2 mail accounts for each of 2 domains, with a web interface and pop3/imap/smtp
[07:59] <s|k_> IdleOne: I'll try that
[08:00] <Schmidt> Mabus06 : not all that hard, but expect it to take about 1-2 hours the first time
[08:01] <purplefeltangel> when my computer starts up, in the BIOS and in grub there are these huge orange vertical lines down the screen. ubuntu freezes on startup and windows has a 640x480 screenres, 16 colours, and a garbled display with weird pink and green lines up and down it! what do i do??????
[08:01] <Mabus06> Schmidt: can you suggest to me some starting points to learn how to do it? I need to do it for a friend but I want to know how to, first, so I can do it on my ubuntu machine.
[08:01] <NickGarvey> purplefeltangel: windows has problems too?
[08:01] <purplefeltangel> NickGarvey: yes
[08:02] <Killgore> hey
[08:02] <MenZa> Hmm... when I do /etc/init.d/gdm start, it fails to launch... might anyone know why?
[08:02] <Schmidt> Mabus06 : http://workaround.org/articles/ispmail-sarge/ check out this guide
[08:02] <Killgore> whats the oposite of dpgk -i package.deb
[08:02] <s-ndh-c> MenZa:  hm maybe wrong X configuration?
[08:02] <Schmidt> Mabus06 : remember to read every line, then you will learn how to do it
[08:03] <MenZa> s-ndh-c: well, I installed a third-party GDM theme.. I'm currently assuming it's that.
[08:03] <MenZa> Let me try resetting it.
[08:03] <caglar__> where do I get drivers for my generic webcam?
[08:03] <MenZa> bbiab
[08:03] <Mabus06> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:03] <Mabus06> Schmidt: Thanks.
[08:03] <Schmidt> Mabus06 : np
[08:03] <Killgore> how do i unistall things with dpkg
[08:03] <Killgore> can i?
[08:04] <TheFuzzball> how do I install different Bootsplash themes in kubuntu?
[08:04] <Schmidt> Killgore : dpkg --help
[08:04] <[Spooky] > Killgore: i use "sudo apt-get remove appname --purge"
[08:04] <IdleOne> !tell TheFuzzball about usplash
[08:05] <Killgore> its -r looks like i didnt read it well enough the first time
[08:05] <X3lectric> good evening all :) :bowdown: to crafters of ubuntu
[08:05] <TheFuzzball> what is Usplash?
[08:06] <MenZa> Hmm... no, I think my GDM is ruined, somehow.
[08:06] <queuebug> hello - I'm a noobie trying to install wordpress.  How can I find out my localhost name?
[08:06] <J_P> Could anyone help me with dict enlish-pt-br and vice versa in ubuntu ? Are there anyone software to do this ?
[08:06] <MenZa> I reset it to the Ubuntu Human theme.
[08:06] <CraiZE> queuebug, type localhost in xterm
[08:06] <k31th> I should be safe to upgrade to dapper when im in kde ?
[08:06] <queuebug> thanks, CraiZE
[08:06] <CraiZE> queuebug, np
[08:06] <CraiZE> actually
[08:06] <CraiZE> its: hostname
[08:06] <CraiZE> not localhost, sorry
[08:07] <X3lectric> Im looking for the xubunto username/password combo
[08:07] <sovieticool> !root
[08:07] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[08:07] <hischam> hello, how to EDIT config files which are protected?
[08:07] <MenZa> When I try to launch gdm from a terminal without X running (using /etc/init.d/gdm start), it says "Fail". Anyone have a clue what's going on here?
[08:07] <stephelton> Schmidt, i could'nt find x-window-system
[08:08] <k31th> wats the easy'st way to gloablly change the word brezzy to dapper in /etc/apt/sources.list ? can i use sed?
[08:09] <Schmidt> stephelton, try 'sudo apt-get install x-window-system-core'
[08:09] <queuebug> Thanks CraiZE!
[08:09] <purplefeltangel> when my computer starts up, in the BIOS and in grub there are these huge orange vertical lines down the screen. ubuntu freezes on startup and windows has a 640x480 screenres, 16 colours, and a garbled display with weird pink and green lines up and down it! what do i do??????
[08:09] <MenZa> k31th: I can give you my sources.lst if it's of any help :p
[08:09] <CraiZE> queuebug, no problem! :)
[08:09] <MenZa> Mind you my own CD is listed, among other things.
[08:09] <k31th> MenZa: i just wanted to now for future use
[08:10] <MenZa> k31th: I don't think there is. Don't ask me though.
[08:10] <test> How to edit config files which are protected?
[08:10] <X3lectric> how do I get sudo installed on xbox then?
[08:10] <Trae> please...
[08:10] <Jhair> k31th: sed 's/breezy/dapper/g' sources.list > x; mv x sources.list
[08:11] <test> How to edit config files which are protected? I can't open them by double-clicking on them
[08:11] <k31th> Jhair: thanks
[08:11] <errpast98> vncviewer via command line works to my vnc server, but Terminal Services Client fails with "error", nothing more descriptive
[08:11] <jager> what's your favorite antivirus program? (yes i know it's off topic but you guyus are so smart!)
[08:11] <Jhair> test:  gksudo gvim /etc/passwd
[08:12] <odat> hi everyone
[08:12] <xfcefreak> jager: i dont use them no need to
[08:12] <troytroy> hi all programs i run in gnome appear very small in kde how do i correct the problem?
[08:12] <odat> why do i always get this error when trying to compile
[08:12] <odat> error: C compiler cannot create executables
[08:12] <xfcefreak> odat: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:12] <nazty> how can i install a font?
[08:12] <stephelton> Schmidt, thx that was it
[08:12] <xfcefreak> ubotu tell nazty about fonts
[08:13] <xfcefreak> nazty: your pm will show you
[08:13] <IdleOne> !tell jager about antivirus
[08:13] <Schmidt> stephelton, np
[08:13] <s-ndh-c> one quick question
[08:13] <test> Jhair, it does not work
[08:13] <xfcefreak> s-ndh-c: yes?
[08:13] <nazty> thanks x
[08:13] <s-ndh-c> is there some guid on setting up remote windows printers?
[08:13] <s-ndh-c> *guide
[08:14] <test> Jhair, I get this: gksudo gvim /etc/passwd
[08:14] <IdleOne> !print
[08:14] <ubotu> rumour has it, print is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org
[08:14] <sovieticool> if i install amarok i must to install codec for him ? i install it from synamptic :D
[08:14] <test> Jhair, I get this: sudo: gvim: command not found
[08:14] <k31th> will ubuntu keep stuff back when you do a apt-get upgrade if its currently in use ??
[08:14] <X3lectric> I am looking for the livecd/ xubuntu user/password for xbox version
[08:14] <Howdy125> What is gksudo ?
[08:14] <Jhair> test: use other editor gedit then
[08:14] <Jhair> test:  gksudo gedit /etc/passwd
[08:14] <xfcefreak> k31th: it keeps them back because releasing them may hurt your system
[08:14] <s|k> I just have to leave that button alone heh
[08:14] <scorchsaber> test: it never hurts to install gtk-vim
[08:15] <lucnac> Can I update firefox? how?
[08:15] <k31th> xfcefreak: i see.
[08:15] <xfcefreak> k31th: also if the depends are not met
[08:15] <IdleOne> !ff1.5
[08:15] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[08:15] <xfcefreak> k31th: you on breezy or dapper?
[08:15] <test> so what should i do to open a config file by double clicking it
[08:15] <k31th> xfcefreak: currently im on breezy im trying to upgrade to dapper
[08:15] <k31th> im running ubuntu
[08:15] <lucnac> thanks a lot, i'll try!
[08:15] <k31th> kubuntu*
[08:16] <test> I mean how to edit a config file by double-clikcing on it?
[08:16] <IdleOne> test, right click , open with text editor
[08:16] <test> but then i can not edit it
[08:16] <test> jsut read
[08:16] <s-ndh-c> hm
[08:16] <k31th> xfcefreak: why do you ask ?
[08:17] <s-ndh-c> i have chosen the same driver as on that wiki page
[08:17] <s-ndh-c> but it doesnt print
[08:17] <s-ndh-c> it comes nothing out of the printer
[08:17] <Howdy125> test sudo nautilus .. how ever it's spelled ..
[08:17] <xfcefreak> k31th: dappper has holdbacks
[08:17] <test> Howdy125: is this really the only way?
[08:18] <Howdy125> test .. yeah without actually becoming root ..
[08:18] <nazty> xfcefreak: the font still dont pop up
[08:18] <sweetloz> hi
[08:18] <test> ok, thanks then Howdy125, it did work
[08:18] <xfcefreak> nazty: what do you mean it doesnt pop-up?
[08:18] <nazty> i put it in ~/.fonts , /usr/share/fonts
[08:18] <Howdy125> yw test
[08:18] <nazty> in the font selector
[08:18] <Jhair> test: right click on the file -> Open with other application->Use custom command->gtksudo <the name of whatever editor you use> <command>
[08:18] <Killgore> has anybody here used WineCVS.sh ???
[08:18] <nazty> i also have it in
[08:19] <Killgore> contacting the CVS is really slow
[08:19] <_harm> hi i have an AMD athlon 1800+ thats k7 arch right?
[08:19] <test> Jhair, thanks too
[08:19] <Jhair> test: without the "<" and the ">"
[08:19] <nazty> ./usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/vga11x19.pcf
[08:19] <nazty> its also in there
[08:19] <xfcefreak> Killgore: i think most people use the wine repos now
[08:19] <k31th> should i run upgrade or distt-upgrade
[08:19] <Killgore> xfcefreak: im trying to get cedega
[08:19] <xfcefreak> ahhhhh
[08:19] <nazty> xfcefreak : do u use bitchx or epic?
[08:20] <sovieticool> !amarok
[08:20] <ubotu> I guess amarok is a music player for Linux and Unix with an intuitive interface. See http://amarok.kde.org ; amaroK's features: http://amarok.kde.org/content/view/51/1/
[08:20] <xfcefreak> k31th: from breezy to dapper you should use the update tool
[08:20] <xfcefreak> nazty: irssi
[08:20] <nazty> oh
[08:20] <nazty> because i cant get ansi characters to display right
[08:20] <nazty> they only display as boxes.....
[08:20] <k31th> xfcefreak: ?? iv ran apt-get update
[08:20] <sovieticool> amarok work whit gnome ?
[08:20] <xfcefreak> nazty: sorry dont know
[08:20] <k31th> now its apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[08:20] <nazty> ok
[08:20] <IdleOne> sovieticool, yes iirc
[08:20] <k31th> sovieticool: yes, u will need kde libs tho.
[08:21] <test> is it possible to have 5.1 sound, if so how?
[08:21] <xfcefreak> k31th: i strongly suggest you using the tool. the tool is more stable atm than dist-upgrade
[08:21] <sovieticool> :(
[08:21] <WebGuest> where can i download libstdc++6     libxxf86dga1 from?
[08:21] <xfcefreak> k31th: change your repos back to breezy run sudo apt-get update than get started with the tool
[08:21] <test> is it possible to have 5.1 sound, if so, how?
[08:22] <k31th> xfce wat tool
[08:22] <Killgore> xfcefreak: im guessing when it says checking out cvs it means downloading
[08:22] <xfcefreak> !upgrade
[08:22] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade.  Upgrading to dapper (remember it may break). Please test the dist-upgrader -> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html.
[08:22] <xfcefreak> ^^^ k31th last link
[08:22] <xfcefreak> Killgore: either downloading or verifing
[08:23] <WebGuest> where can i download libstdc++6     libxxf86dga1 from?
[08:23] <Gosha> ...this haven't anything to do with ubuntu .. but still .. why can't i copy the winrar install from the diskette to the computer... ah yeah.. it has to do with ubuntu .. i can't open the floppy in ubuntu
[08:23] <xfcefreak> WebGuest: you want both of them?
[08:24] <Apostle^> does xgl work on breezy?
[08:24] <xfcefreak> WebGuest: sudo apt-get install libstdc++6
[08:24] <xfcefreak> Apostle^: nope
[08:24] <Apostle^> not at all?
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[08:24] <xfcefreak> WebGuest: if that doesnt work use apt-cache search libstdc
[08:24] <WebGuest> I want to download them via ff
[08:24] <WebGuest> im on xp
[08:24] <xfcefreak> Apostle^: im sure theres a hack to the hack but no it depends on dappers Xorg
[08:24] <WebGuest> i dont have the internet on my linux box
[08:25] <Apostle^> !dapper
[08:25] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[08:25] <xfcefreak> WebGuest: packages.ubuntu.com
[08:25] <purplefeltangel> when my computer starts up, in the BIOS and in grub there are these huge orange vertical lines down the screen. ubuntu freezes on startup and windows has a 640x480 screenres, 16 colours, and a garbled display with weird pink and green lines up and down it! what do i do??????
[08:25] <nazty> does anyone here use bitchx or epic irc clients?!
[08:25] <xfcefreak> WebGuest: i dont know where you would get them for windows
[08:25] <Killgore> y does everything on the internet need a credit card
[08:25] <Killgore> i would pay for cedega if i had one
[08:26] <xfcefreak> Killgore: how else are they gonna get their money?
[08:26] <Killgore> paypal?
[08:26] <Bambino> Guys a question. I am running gconf-editor. and i clicked on apps/nautilis/dekstop. I ticked the computer icon visible, home icon and volumes. and i even restarted X, still nothing is howing at my desctop. Any ideas?
[08:26] <xfcefreak> paypal uses CC and bank account but it costs to be part of paypal (for companies) i think
[08:26] <Apostle^> !upgrade
[08:26] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade.  Upgrading to dapper (remember it may break). Please test the dist-upgrader -> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html.
[08:27] <k31th> xfcefreak: are you sure this tool is ok
[08:27] <k31th> the packages dont have a gpg key either.
[08:27] <Centaur5> If I get an error message when trying to run make that says /lib/modules/uname-r/build No such file or directory which kernel source do I need to install?
[08:27] <xfcefreak> k31th: i know its more stable than dist-upgrade
[08:27] <Killgore> would they recommend it if it wasnt
[08:27] <Linuturk> fresh install on an emachines m2350. trying to connect to a router via dhcp, and the device isn't automatically configuring. It appears it has detected the hardware, but it isn't working correctly. I can pull it up in network settings, but it isn't working correctly. Can anyone help me troubleshoot this?
[08:28] <xfcefreak> k31th: what your installing is only used for the upgrade than removed
[08:28] <xfcefreak> k31th: keep something in mind there is no safe way to upgrade to dapper or to install dapper
[08:29] <k31th> xfcefreak: jesus , is there no cmd line tool? its a gui
[08:29] <k31th> I know.
[08:29] <odat> hey whats the command to create a symlink?
[08:29] <odat> i forget
[08:30] <Methuselah> Can anybody please point me to somewhere that I can download libstdc++2.9-glibc2.1.deb from? I can't find it anywhere.
[08:30] <xfcefreak> the tool is only gui dist-upgrade would be cli but you choose what one you want to use im telling you the safest way i have seen
[08:30] <Apostle^> !easysource
[08:30] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[08:30] <xfcefreak> Methuselah: maybe because they are 2 different libraries?
[08:30] <k31th> xfcefreak: im not trying to be an ass... im going to try the gui out tbh.
[08:31] <Methuselah> It's an old debian library. It provides /usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2
[08:31] <odat> hey whats the command to create a symlink?
[08:31] <k31th> ln -s
[08:31] <EgoPhobia> i'm a newbie in ubuntu, can i use .deb packages of debian on ubuntu safely ??
[08:31] <CrocoJet> Hi all
[08:31] <rungek> apokryphos, thanks for your help (I broke my system upgrading to breezy). I reinstalled it, now it works :)
[08:31] <Apostle^> no
[08:31] <Methuselah> And it did exist in ubuntu a while ago.. but has since been removed from debian and ubuntu
[08:31] <CrocoJet> I made install webmin, but I am getting problem to login
[08:31] <Killgore> late night tv is so crap
[08:31] <purplefeltangel> when my computer starts up, in the BIOS and in grub there are these huge orange vertical lines down the screen. ubuntu freezes on startup and windows has a 640x480 screenres, 16 colours, and a garbled display with weird pink and green lines up and down it! what do i do??????
[08:32] <CrocoJet> anyone can help me ?
[08:32] <xfcefreak> EgoPhobia: ubuntu uses .debs but some .debs are built for debian only
[08:32] <k31th> CrocoJet: that would be because webmin uses your root passwd hash and you probly dont have a root passwd set
[08:32] <odat> hey whats the command to create a symlink?
[08:32] <xfcefreak> Killgore: please join #ubuntu-offtopic to talk about offtopic things
[08:32] <k31th> CrocoJet: google for change webmin password, theres a script some where but i cant remember where it is off the top of my head.
[08:33] <CrocoJet> k31th: need I make passwd
[08:33] <CrocoJet>  command ?
[08:33] <Methuselah> ln -s /home/me/thisfileislinkedto ./here
[08:33] <xfcefreak> odat: ln -s
[08:33] <CrocoJet> k31th: let me look
[08:33] <k31th> CrocoJet: it will of copied the hash when you installed, google and you will find the answer as i did.
[08:33] <WebGuest> Gbalinux eh?
[08:33] <carthik> purplefeltangel, is that with breezy, was it working well before?
[08:34] <torkel_> Hello, I installed dapper on this desktop computer, a shitty one :P Lots of ram, 900mhz cpu and geforce2gts... i also installed Gnome/Xgl/Compiz but I am experiencing some problems. Is this computer to slow to handle Xgl or is it something wrong here? :) When I move windows... the wobbling effect hits in, but it's pretty resource demanding, same goes for resizing etc. But not the basic effects
[08:34] <carthik> torkel, /join #ubuntu+1 please
[08:34] <torkel_> carthik: ok
[08:34] <CraiZE> torkel_, XGL shouldnt work on your machine
[08:34] <MenZa> Where do I stuff Gnome splash screens?
[08:35] <torkel_> CraiZE: why not? I am running it :P
[08:35] <Linuturk> heh, bad jack on the machine
[08:36] <Linuturk> that's a bummer :(
[08:36] <arrinmurr> torkel_: i think resizing is not hardware accelerated yet
[08:36] <carthik> MenZa, use system->Admin->login screen setup to add your new gdm splashed
[08:36] <leagris> hello
[08:37] <purplefeltangel> carthik: yes, breezy. it did this a while ago but was fixed by blowing the dust out of the computer case; this time that didn't work
[08:37] <carthik> !ask
[08:37] <ubotu> Just ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model, outputs of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl is important.
[08:37] <torkel_> arrinmurr:  ok, what about the wobbling effect when moving windows? It all move nice and smoothly at first, but when they wobbling effect start to turn out, so does 'fps'
[08:37] <MenZa> carthik: well, I meant the splash screen, not the GDM Login-thingy.
[08:37] <hyperactivecrond> eek my snd card isnt detected
[08:37] <hyperactivecrond> crystal cs4237b
[08:37] <hyperactivecrond> dell latitude cp
[08:37] <xfcefreak> torkel_: that is normal for xgl
[08:37] <apokryphos> rungek: sorry you had to do that :/
[08:38] <hyperactivecrond> xgl= pita b/c if you hit shift-backspace you kill x
[08:38] <xfcefreak> torkel_: for xgl related issues please join #ubuntu-xgl
[08:38] <carthik> purplefeltangel, oh, okay, remove the graphics card from the slot, clean with a soft cloth, clean the slot by blowing/vacuuming, re-insert card and continue using :)
[08:38] <arrinmurr> torkel_: hmm.. i don't know about that. but try to ask at #ubuntu-xgl #xgl-ubuntu and http://compiz.ed3n.com/
[08:38] <apokryphos> rungek: you should of course never need to reinstall in Linux, and you could've got around that but it would've been an awful lot of work, really.
[08:38] <Linuturk> should I use the ati drivers for an radeon IGP 320M ?
[08:38] <carthik> MenZa, which splash are you talking about?
[08:38] <purplefeltangel> carthik: i don't know where my graphics card is.
[08:38] <Apostle^> if i dist-upgrade to dapper do i need to edit grub menu.lst ?
[08:38] <hyperactivecrond> any ideas?
[08:38] <xfcefreak> !upgrade
[08:38] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade.  Upgrading to dapper (remember it may break). Please test the dist-upgrader -> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html.
[08:38] <apokryphos> Apostle^: no
[08:39] <rungek> apokryphos, yeah, but its moms computer. I gotta be shiny by the time I leave so they have nothing to complain about :)
[08:39] <xfcefreak> apokryphos: if you really insist on it use the tool
[08:39] <Apostle^> apokryphos: what do i need to do ?
[08:39] <carthik> purplefeltangel, okay - well, if you open your computer, the card that has the slot for your monitor cable to plug in, is your graphics card :)
[08:39] <CrocoJet> I did  .. command: /usr/share/webmin/changepass.pl /etc/webmin root newpassword
[08:39] <MenZa> carthik: The splash which states that it loads Nautilus etc., after you've logged in.
[08:39] <apokryphos> xfcefreak: insist on what?
[08:39] <xfcefreak> upgrading to dapper
[08:39] <CrocoJet> but cant login .. yet
[08:39] <leagris> how can I disable ipv6 in a clean way. I wrote a file in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-ipv6 and added blacklist net-pf-10 but it continue to enable ipv6. I thout changing /etc/modprobe.d/alias and adding alias net-pf-10 off but that is a modification of a packaged ocnfig file and it will be erase at next upgrade. What is a clean way to disable net-pf-10 in ubuntu ?
[08:39] <CrocoJet> :(
[08:39] <purplefeltangel> carthik: errr, if my memory serves me, that doesn't look like it will come out.
[08:39] <xfcefreak> oops
[08:39] <hyperactivecrond> any ideas as to how to get my damned isa card to work?
[08:39] <xfcefreak> wrong dam tab
[08:39] <apokryphos> Apostle^: it'd be of more help if you tested the thing as ubotu says, but for dist-upgrade you just follow the standard procedure.
[08:40] <xfcefreak> Apostle^: read what i typed to apokryphos by mistake
[08:40] <Apostle^> apokryphos: okay
[08:40] <Linuturk> !ati
[08:40] <ubotu> somebody said ati was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[08:40] <Apostle^> the tool is crap
[08:40] <xfcefreak> i never used any of the choices above
[08:41] <hyperactivecrond> !isapnp
[08:41] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, hyperactivecrond
[08:41] <hyperactivecrond> !isa
[08:41] <ubotu> hyperactivecrond: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:41] <hyperactivecrond> o well
[08:42] <captainL> damnit. if apt-get install asks for the cd does that mean it can't find the package online?
[08:42] <carthik> MenZa, go to /apps/gnome-session/options/splash_image and you will find you can change it whatever you like...
[08:42] <sovieticool> !codec
[08:42] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, sovieticool
[08:42] <Frogzoo> captainL: nope - might just be looking at cd first - disable cd in synaptic's repos
[08:42] <sovieticool> !codecs
[08:42] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories
[08:42] <apokryphos> captainL: it means that you don't have all online repos listed
[08:42] <captainL> Frogzoo: thanks
[08:42] <hyperactivecrond> w32codecs == crap
[08:42] <hyperactivecrond> imo
[08:43] <apokryphos> captainL: it uses the CD before going online
[08:43] <stephelton> where do i specify what daemons run at startup?
[08:43] <Breezy-CA> I'm running Breezy (figures, neh?). It sometimes shuts down "all by itself" -- signal 15 -- and I haven't been able to figure out what's causing it. Ran chkrootkit and reassured myself that it isn't an attack. Turned off power-saving features in screensaver (someone thought maybe that was the issue), but problem persists. Any thoughts?
[08:43] <sovieticool> where to get codec for mp3 ?
[08:43] <MenZa> !tell sovieticool about mp3
[08:43] <hyperactivecrond> :P MenZa you got there befor eme
[08:43] <Frogzoo> Breezy-CA: low battery can do that
[08:43] <MenZa> hyperactivecrond: I like to be the first to answer on the easy ones ;)
[08:43] <captainL> apokryphos: the problem is that i don't have the cd anymore. i'll try what Frogzoo said and disable it.
[08:44] <Breezy-CA> Frogzoo - my bad, I should have said this is not a laptop
[08:44] <apokryphos> captainL: yes, that's what most people do. Finding the CD is a hassle
[08:44] <rungek> Breezy-CA, try turning of apci in the kernel :), though that would be a crude sulution
[08:44] <stephelton> where do i specify what daemons run at startup?
[08:45] <Breezy-CA> rungek - That may be above my pay grade ... I'm not sure how I'd do that
[08:45] <Frogzoo> stephelton: /etc/rc2.d
[08:45] <captainL> apokryphos: yeah, it's a nightmare.
[08:45] <sovieticool> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:45] <MenZa> carthik: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/pre1/33082-1.png <- That thing.
[08:45] <MenZa> sovieticool: yes, go there.
[08:45] <sovieticool> i don't understand :( there is a lot of word and nothing help me :)
[08:45] <Frogzoo> Breezy-CA: anything in /var/log/messages to indicate a problem?
[08:46] <carthik> MenZa, install gnome-art on your system - makes my life a lot easier...
[08:46] <Breezy-CA> Frogzoo - No, just the signal 15, no sign of what's generating it
[08:46] <carthik> MenZa, it will put a System->pref->Art Manager entry
[08:46] <MenZa> Ah, alright. Thank you.
[08:46] <MenZa> Downloading :)
[08:47] <MenZa> God I have a nasty habit of running waay too many terminals :\
[08:47] <Breezy-CA> Frogzoo -  gconfd received sig 15, shutting down
[08:47] <carthik> MenZa, open the terminals in tabs :)
[08:47] <jerware_> how can i recall and scroll through past command relevent to a search criteria
[08:47] <jerware_> commnds*
[08:48] <carthik> jerware_, type atrl+r
[08:48] <carthik> ctrl_r
[08:48] <jerware_> carthik:  then how do i scroll?
[08:48] <jerware_> up key returns me to bash prmpt
[08:48] <carthik> jerware_, that is find as you type....
[08:49] <Cin> There's no SLIME on the package collection?
[08:49] <Linuturk> how do I access a windows ntfs partion after a fresh install? it has something to do with fstab and permissions, right?
[08:49] <jerware_> well i have an ssh session that i want to find,  how do i narrow down the ip i want ?
[08:49] <Frogzoo> Breezy-CA: suggest you try 'recovery mode' & then go through the boot scripts one by one till you find what service is causing the problem
[08:49] <apokryphos> Linuturk: /msg ubotu ntfs
[08:49] <jerware_> i dont know my buddies IP off the bat
[08:49] <jerware_> but i need to contact him
[08:49] <MenZa> !tell Linuturk about ntfs
[08:49] <MenZa> :P
[08:49] <Frogzoo> jerware_: you ask your buddy
[08:49] <jerware_> theres no way to see all the past ssh entries?
[08:49] <Linuturk> merci beaucoup
[08:50] <Frogzoo> jerware_: will be logged in /var/log/auth
[08:50] <Breezy-CA> Frogzoo, you're talking to a n00b ... boot scripts ... ? Maybe there's an online tutorial or something I can get up to speed with ...
[08:50] <jerware_> ok thanx
[08:50] <Killgore> Linuturk: correct
[08:50] <Frogzoo> jerware_: or just 'last'
[08:50] <Breezy-CA> Completely separate secondary thing - anyone recommend a good, cheap (sub $50) graphics card? I'm not a gamer, but I'm running some ancient ATI Rage thing that is barely happy even with ordinary apps (e.g., Oo.o, pdf readers, etc.)
[08:50] <Bambino> Does anyone know how to display the trash can, and my volumes using KDE? I want them to be dosplayed at my desktop
[08:50] <Killgore> Breezy-CA: agp or pci-x
[08:50] <xfcefreak> Breezy-CA: nvidia
[08:51] <Breezy-CA> agp 2x-4x
[08:51] <Breezy-CA> Old mobo
[08:51] <Killgore> Breezy-CA: or possibly pci
[08:51] <sfar> Bambino: you cant play dos-games on the desktop :) DOSPLAY bwhahahah
[08:51] <Killgore> Breezy-CA: my FX5200 chugs along quite nicely, cost me $120 about 3 years ago (AUD)
[08:51] <xfcefreak> Breezy-CA: pci nvidia card for the older mobos
[08:51] <Frogzoo> Breezy-CA: any chance the cpu is overheating & shutting down?
[08:51] <carthik> jerware_, use   history | grep -i "<search string>" to search and then when you find the history item number, use !number
[08:52] <xfcefreak> Killgore: i got same card cost me 70 dollars
[08:52] <xfcefreak> ;)
[08:52] <Breezy-CA> xfcefreak,  Killgore, t/y
[08:52] <Killgore> not a bad card
[08:52] <Bambino> sfar: You are so funny
[08:52] <xfcefreak> no its not
[08:52] <sfar> im a bunny
[08:52] <Killgore> well its pretty terrible these days
[08:52] <carthik> MenZa, gnome-art is nice, innit :)
[08:52] <Killgore> i was very impressed when i ran doom3 and far cry
[08:52] <Breezy-CA> Frogzoo,  I don't *think* so ... can't prove it, but I doubt it
[08:52] <Killgore> o.0 at far cry
[08:53] <Frogzoo> Breezy-CA: is the fan spinning? any movement should be enough
[08:53] <Killgore> Breezy-CA: are you doing anything in particular when this happens? how long after boot-up
[08:53] <Breezy-CA> Frogzoo,  sure ... fan's going, no question
[08:53] <Breezy-CA> Killgore,  time from boot varies ... several days at least
[08:53] <Killgore> Breezy-CA: its probably not the fans then
[08:53] <carthik> !offtopic\
[08:53] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, carthik
[08:53] <carthik> !offtopic
[08:53] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[08:53] <Frogzoo> Breezy-CA: run a memcheck from the boot prompt
[08:54] <Killgore> Breezy-CA: what is the machine doing when it reboots?
[08:54] <Breezy-CA> Killgore,  always it's when I'm afk and can't see, so the box is idle ... Frogzoo, will run memcheck.
[08:54] <Killgore> Breezy-CA: yer let it run for at least 30mins overnight if your really anal
[08:55] <Breezy-CA> Will do
[08:55] <Breezy-CA> T/y
[08:56] <Killgore> should we have told him that memcheck makes the pc implode?
[08:56] <theripper> !mp3
[08:56] <ubotu> somebody said mp3 was a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:58] <_Dez> how do i mount my usb drive?
[08:58] <Frogzoo> _Dez: plug it in
[08:58] <konfuzed> hey is there any significant changes with dapper that would warrant a fresh install instead of doing an upgrade
[08:58] <_Dez> im not in gui
[08:58] <Frogzoo> _Dez: physically - plug it in
[08:58] <Linuturk> i found the options to add to fstab. do i leave the option "defaults" and add the additional options "ro,auto,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000", or do I remove the option "defaults", and only have ro,auto,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000?
[09:00] <konfuzed> _Dez, it should still auto mount.   try ls /media
[09:00] <Cin> If I'm installing a binary something into a directory, what's the common directory to do so?
[09:00] <konfuzed> /usr/bin
[09:00] <konfuzed> or somewhere else under /usr
[09:00] <konfuzed> Cin, otherwise only do what the install instructions said to do
[09:01] <Cin> Oki.
[09:01] <konfuzed> the only requirements for location of a bin is that the App using it can find the file
[09:02] <Cin> Yah, but I don't wanna be putting it in my /home/ in case I accidently delete it or just for organisation purposes.
[09:02] <Cin> Ha, nice.
[09:04] <konfuzed> old school philosphy says that if its just for personal use keep it in your hoem dir other wise if it is intended to be used by actual users then it belongs somewhere in /usr
[09:05] <Cin> :)
[09:05] <konfuzed> anything that runs like a daemon or part of the system mostly lives on the file system where end users can not mess with it
[09:06] <konfuzed> keep in mind thats like the general rule of thumb and yes you can install sendmail into your home directory
[09:06] <konfuzed> or even under /boot
[09:07] <konfuzed> i wouldnt condone that but it could be done
[09:07] <kbrooks> konfuzed: no, you cant install sendmail under /boot
[09:07] <konfuzed> yes you can
[09:07] <kbrooks> no you cant
[09:07] <konfuzed> you gotta screw around with it a lot
[09:07] <kbrooks> its illegal
[09:07] <biovore> you can install it anywhere..  but why boot?
[09:07] <konfuzed> again, i wouldnt condone that but it could be done
[09:08] <kbrooks> konfuzed: its illegal to install sendmail under /boot. the law of linux says so.
[09:08] <konfuzed> so I say /boot just to illustrate that just because anything could be done doesnt mean its a good idea
[09:08] <biovore> I don't know if the .deb package will let you.. but from source just tell the configure --prefix=/boot  and it will do it..
[09:08] <Frogzoo> konfuzed: there's a linux standard for file system layout - and it doesn't mention using /boot for sendmail ;)
[09:09] <_Dez> my usb drive isnt being mounted
[09:09] <konfuzed> yes I would agree that someone should be slapped for installing sendmail or anything else under boot - but that does not mean that it can not be done
[09:09] <konfuzed> again, i wouldnt condone that but it could be done
[09:10] <biovore> that what nice about linux.. it dose what you tell it.. even if its an insane crazy thing like dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/hda1
[09:10] <konfuzed> Frogzoo, I read the LINUX BIBLE too and you're right, it wasnt in there
, xfcefreak
[09:10] <_Dez> Network Interfaces: (#1 (VIA Compatable Fast Ethernet Adapter - Packet Scheduler Miniport (100Mb/s) 3871.59MB In, 363.46MB Out) #2(VMware Virtual Ethernet Adapter for VMnet1 (100Mb/s) 0.05MB In, 0.05MB Out) #3(VMware Virtual Ethernet Adapter for VMnet8 (100Mb/s) 0.04MB In, 0.04MB Out))
[09:10] <kbrooks> xfcefreak: are u really a xfce freak
[09:10] <xfcefreak> kbrooks: today i am tomorrow i dont know yet
[09:11] <Dr_Willis> xfce is nice in ways.. annoying in many others. :P
[09:11] <Frogzoo> konfuzed: http://www.linux.org/docs/ldp/howto/HighQuality-Apps-HOWTO/fhs.html    it's not a law, but it's good practice
[09:11] <biovore> If I am not using kde.. I use xfce4
[09:11] <konfuzed> again, i wouldnt condone that but it could be done
[09:11] <Frogzoo> konfuzed: totally agree it's doable
[09:12] <konfuzed> Frogzoo, its not law, but its good practive to only run sendmail on openbsd
[09:12] <Frogzoo> konfuzed: so you could mail yourself a new kernel, & have procmail install it :p
[09:12] <konfuzed> why ? because the versio navailable from openbsd has been modified and secured by openbsd
[09:12] <biovore> if your into security.. openbsd is ussaly the better choice
[09:13] <konfuzed> if you're into not getting hacked or turned into a spam engine then send mail is a bad idea
[09:13] <leagris> How can I disable ipv6 in a clean Ubuntu way? I wrote a file in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-ipv6 and added blacklist net-pf-10, but it continue to enable ipv6. I thought about changing /etc/modprobe.d/alias and writing alias net-pf-10 off but, that is a modification of a packaged config file and it will be erased at next upgrade. What is a clean way to disable net-pf-10 in ubuntu?
[09:13] <xfcefreak> ubotu tell leagris about ipv6
[09:13] <biovore> well sendmail is just a pain to setup..  I like postfix better
[09:13] <Linuturk> !ndiswrapper
[09:13] <ubotu> methinks ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[09:14] <konfuzed> I use postfix cause it bugs me the least
[09:14] <Frogzoo> konfuzed: wait for Pacifica - you'll be able to run sendmail in its own virtual machine
[09:15] <kbrooks> Frogzoo: whats Pacifica?
[09:15] <konfuzed> uhm whats Pacifica
[09:15] <konfuzed> ;^)
[09:15] <Frogzoo> VMs in hardware
[09:15] <konfuzed> uhm why would I want to run send mail ??
[09:15] <konfuzed> ah yes ive been looking for   VMs in Hardware
[09:15] <konfuzed> is there a site for it yet?
[09:15] <Frogzoo> kbrooks: Pacifica is the hardware VM layer in the new AMDs due in a few months
[09:16] <konfuzed> oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[09:16] <konfuzed> my fav AMD
[09:16] <konfuzed> oh yeah
[09:16] <konfuzed> they rock
[09:16] <konfuzed> AND's HardWare VM
[09:16] <axisys> anyone knows why I am failing to run amarok?
[09:16] <axisys> this is the error I get
[09:16] <axisys> http://pastebin.com/648279
[09:16] <konfuzed> kewl if im lucky I'll be able to get one 3 years after the market release
[09:16] <shiky> how do i identify
[09:17] <sovieticool> how i save setting to valknut
[09:17] <shiky> or register
[09:17] <axisys> it tried to start kmail also.. hm
[09:17] <kbrooks> konfuzed:
[09:17] <kbrooks> !offtopic
[09:17] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[09:17] <konfuzed> kbrooks, what about off topic comments that are not discussions
[09:18] <leagris> Is it possible to disable a kernel module  where ther exist an alias. Blacklist doesn't appear to work
[09:18] <Frogzoo> axisys: pretty ugly - what's your setup?
[09:18] <axisys> breezy
[09:18] <axisys> Frogzoo: is that what u asked?
[09:18] <Frogzoo> axisys: ask in #ubuntu+1
[09:18] <Frogzoo> oops - no soz axisys - stay here
[09:18] <axisys> Frogzoo: ok
[09:18] <Frogzoo> axisys: kde or gnome?
[09:19] <axisys> gnome
[09:19] <troytroy> hi how do i make my gnome application appear well i kde. the seem to have tiny font view
[09:19] <Frogzoo> axisys: & you're only running 32 bit?
[09:20] <xfcefreak> troytroy: ask in one room please whatever room fits you version of ubuntu
[09:20] <troytroy> cool
[09:20] <axisys> Frogzoo: not sure how to check
[09:20] <axisys> Frogzoo: its 32 bit
[09:20] <Linuturk> what is the terminal command to delete a folder and all it's files?
[09:20] <Frogzoo> axisys: if it's intel, it's 32 bit
[09:20] <Frogzoo> Linuturk: rm -rf directory
[09:21] <axisys> Frogzoo: it is intel
[09:21] <Linuturk> thanks
[09:21] <axisys> Frogzoo: Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.60GHz
[09:22] <kbrooks> xfcefreak:
[09:22] <xfcefreak> yes?
[09:22] <kbrooks> use this factoid, xfcefreak
[09:22] <kbrooks> !dapper
[09:22] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[09:23] <kbrooks> also, this factoid
[09:23] <xfcefreak> you mean for troytroy ?
[09:23] <kbrooks> !kubuntu
[09:23] <ubotu> methinks kubuntu is Ubuntu+KDE (not a fork) ; see http://kubuntu.org and you can go to #kubuntu for KDE-related help, or install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/
[09:23] <kbrooks> :)
[09:23] <biovore> axisys: file /usr/bin/amarokapp
[09:23] <k31th> xfcefreak: it failed btw
[09:23] <k31th> same errors as dist-upgrade
[09:23] <axisys> biovore: let me chekc
[09:23] <xfcefreak> k31th: what failed? and how did it fail?
[09:23] <xfcefreak> k31th: what were the errors?
[09:23] <axisys> biovore: dont have one
[09:23] <kditty> i need to resize my ubuntu partition, i gave it 40gigs more space than i wanted to. how should i go about doing that?
[09:23] <k31th> xfcefreak: failed on docs,
[09:23] <axisys> biovore: /usr/bin/amarokapp: ERROR: cannot open `/usr/bin/amarokapp' (No such file or directory)
[09:23] <k31th> xfcefreak: ill get the log.
[09:24] <konfuzed> ok so the Install CDs dont have the kernel source or gcc updates (as far as I can surmise), does the DVD have the kernel source ?
[09:24] <biovore> hmmm
[09:24] <k31th> oh i cant its broken kde ffs
[09:24] <biovore> axisys: file /usr/bin/amarok ?
[09:24] <axisys> biovore: may be i should uninstall and re-install using apt-get ?!
[09:24] <axisys> biovore: exist. it is 32bit
[09:25] <biovore> axisys: I build amarok 1.4 here from CVS
[09:25] <xfcefreak> k31th: sounds like you had errors before trying to upgrade (upgrade doesnt fix anything)
[09:25] <axisys> biovore: http://pastebin.com/648301
[09:25] <biovore> axisys: so my setup is a bit different then ubuntu's
[09:25] <konfuzed> i would use apt-get but the network card doesnt work so apt-get cant find anything thats not in the dvd drive
[09:25] <megaman123> why cant i run the command "make" to run any .sh file ?
[09:25] <shiky> use sh
[09:26] <leonel___> ya
[09:26] <biovore> axisys: ldd /usr/bin/amarok
[09:26] <kbrooks> megaman123: because it doesnt run the .sh file
[09:26] <konfuzed> megaman123, make is not for running .sh files
[09:26] <megaman123> nope
[09:26] <shiky> use SH
[09:26] <megaman123> so how can i run a file of ext .sh
[09:26] <shiky> sh whatever.sh
[09:26] <sval> me2win, sh fichier.sh
[09:26] <axisys> biovore: http://pastebin.com/648304
[09:26] <megaman123> nope
[09:26] <me2win> lol
[09:27] <sval> me2win, or chmod +x fichier.sh follow by ./fichier.sh
[09:27] <megaman123> it doesn't do anything
[09:27] <axisys> biovore: looks to have found all libs
[09:27] <konfuzed> make is for assited compile source and install sort of idea
[09:27] <megaman123> ok
[09:28] <roryy> megaman123: what's the file called? what are you trying to do with this .sh file?
[09:28] <biovore> axisys: well you can try reinstalling the package.. but I may not work
[09:28] <megaman123> im using the terminal to run commands ... isn't that the console ??
[09:28] <megaman123> the file is chech.sh from ati
[09:28] <konfuzed> megaman123, mv whatever.sh runme;chmod 777 runme;runme
[09:28] <megaman123> sorry check.sh
[09:28] <roryy> megaman123: and what is check.sh supposed to do ?
[09:29] <k31th> xfcefreak: I did not
[09:29] <megaman123> its supposed to get the version of XFree
[09:29] <axisys> biovore: let me give it a shot
[09:29] <k31th> http://pastebin.com/648309
[09:29] <EvilDin> am how to take away some user permission to ssh login
[09:29] <roryy> megaman123: ok.  And when you run it, nothing at all happens ?
[09:30] <megaman123> i type sh check.sh
[09:30] <rungek> !skype
[09:30] <ubotu> somebody said skype was http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/
[09:30] <megaman123> it says:"you are either not running this script from the console
[09:30] <EvilDin> am how to take away some user permission to ssh login
[09:31] <megaman123> or simply do not have console ownership
[09:31] <Bambino|Party> !firewall
[09:31] <ubotu> Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter, which can be installed via synaptic.
[09:31] <konfuzed> megaman123, it proabably wants you to run it as root
[09:31] <roryy> megaman123: ah, perhaps it's a permissions issue. try 'sudo sh check.sh'
[09:31] <megaman123> i did
[09:31] <megaman123> same result
[09:31] <xfcefreak> k31th: its a bug in kubuntu
[09:32] <dashriKe> what do I need to do to set up the partition table for Ubuntu?
[09:32] <roryy> megaman123: perhaps you are required to run it from the ``real'' console
[09:32] <xfcefreak> i have some filing a bug on it as we speak he has same issue and not from upgrade
[09:32] <konfuzed> megaman123, do      ls -lh check.sh
[09:32] <megaman123> where is the real console
[09:32] <roryy> megaman123: use Ctl-Alt-F1 to get to the text-mode console.  Use Alt-F7 to get back to X
[09:32] <k31th> xfcefreak: oh
[09:32] <konfuzed> there is only one console, no matter how you get to it , it is the same console
[09:32] <megaman123> ok
[09:32] <sval> megaman123, apt-show-version xserver-xorg to find the version of xorg ( xfree )
[09:33] <gouchi> Hi
[09:33] <konfuzed> megaman123, do      ls -lh check.sh
[09:33] <megaman123> ok :)
[09:33] <axisys> biovore: u r right.. exact same error
[09:33] <megaman123> i did the ls
[09:33] <xfcefreak> k31th: if he files it i will give you the bug number so you can add to it
[09:33] <konfuzed> well show me the result
[09:33] <konfuzed> its only 1 line
[09:33] <k31th> xfcefreak: should i email the guy ?
[09:33] <gouchi> I'm using a labtec webcam which is using spcaXXX modules
[09:33] <biovore> axisys: I had problems with the amarok that came with kubuntu, IT would crash alot.. So I built my own..
[09:33] <megaman123> it gave me no such file or directory
[09:33] <Gosha> my U. doesn't / can't open my floppy... it says "unable to mount device"
[09:34] <megaman123> hold on 1 sec
[09:34] <megaman123> the file is gone !!!!!???
[09:34] <gouchi> but when I try an application ie aMSN, GnomeMeetting
[09:34] <gouchi> it freezes the computer
[09:34] <konfuzed> megaman123, that might be the problem
[09:34] <gouchi> running on Ubuntu Breezy
[09:34] <xfcefreak> k31th: no its not the tools fault its a bug in kubuntu
[09:34] <k31th> ok, kool.
[09:34] <gouchi> even If I use new update modules
[09:34] <megaman123> :) i was doing this linux-686 upgarde at the same time
[09:34] <biovore> axisys: http://amarok.kde.org/amarokwiki/index.php/Installation_HowTo#From_Anonymous_SVN
[09:34] <gouchi> does anyone have the same problem ?
[09:35] <megaman123> do i need to restart after this update ??
[09:35] <dashriKe> what do I need to do to set up the partition table for Ubuntu?
[09:35] <megaman123> sorry im a windows person and just moved here two days ago
[09:35] <axisys> biovore: let me check that out
[09:35] <gouchi> or someone succeeded to use spaXXX module for the cam
[09:35] <gouchi>  ?
[09:35] <megaman123> and in windows u restart every 2 seconds
[09:35] <k31th> xfcefreak: seems to work ok tbh
[09:35] <Dr_Willis> !install
[09:35] <ubotu> Installing Ubuntu? See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation Installing software on Ubuntu? See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingSoftware
[09:35] <xfcefreak> tbh?
[09:35] <konfuzed> megaman123, life works out better when you do one thing at a time. Computers only pretend to do more than one thing at a time
[09:36] <comrade> I got a question, my wireless is working, but it keeps dropping the internet, I can still connect to my router, I assume it's something with dhclient. anyone have suggestions?
[09:36] <criminy> I'm installing gaim from cvs using checkinstall..what version # could I use that would not try to be overwritten when a dist-upgrade
[09:36] <_Dez> !fluxbox
[09:36] <ubotu> it has been said that fluxbox is a lightweight window manager.  Installation instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fluxbox.  More information at http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net
[09:36] <megaman123> ya i guess
[09:36] <Gosha> again: my U. doesn't / can't open my floppy... it says "unable to mount device"
[09:36] <Dr_Willis> Gosha,  try mounting it manually from the shell
[09:36] <winston> hello
[09:36] <_Dez> when i try to install fluxbox it tells me im missing alot of packages
[09:37] <xfcefreak> criminy: there are repos for gaim beta 3 other than that you would have to pin it
[09:37] <konfuzed> megaman123, so pick one say what it is and when thats done bring up your next conundrum
[09:37] <marlun> Is there a Skype app for linux?
[09:37] <MenZa> Can anyone tell me how I setup Rhythmbox to output in ALSA?
[09:37] <x999> nalioth, what do i need to do to get totem to read a dvd rom in the dual sided dvd player.  this is squidbullets, over
[09:37] <winston> marlun yeah skype
[09:37] <winston> Im running it now
[09:37] <MenZa> marlun: yes, skype :)
[09:37] <MenZa> !tell marlun about skype
[09:37] <squidbullets> nalioth
[09:37] <marlun> winston, oh :) thought it was windows only
[09:37] <megaman123> does anyone know where i could get help on DVB issues ??
[09:37] <megaman123> a chat place not a website
[09:37] <MenZa> marlun: until yesterday, I did too.
[09:37] <k31th> xfcefreak: to be honest
[09:37] <Gosha> dr willis: ...how?
[09:37] <nalioth> squidbullets: type /j #kubuntu-offtopic please
[09:38] <squidbullets> done
[09:38] <NickGarvey>  /quit
[09:38] <Dr_Willis> Gosha,  with the mount command. Mounting Drives and devices.. is not too hard to research and learn about. BUt thee may be some tricks to it.
[09:38] <Dr_Willis> !mount
[09:38] <ubotu> somebody said mount was the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[09:38] <criminy> xfcefreak: I'd much rather build it myself
[09:38] <MenZa> Can anyone tell me how I setup Rhythmbox to output in ALSA? :\
[09:38] <xfcefreak> k31th: well if everything is working right you wouldnt have that error and that error will cause you not to get updates (what does uname -r output)?
[09:38] <marlun> MenZa, thanks :)
[09:38] <megaman123> another question , if i want to add more resolutions to my system..how can i ? i missed it at setup
[09:38] <criminy> but I am having troublr with the version #
[09:39] <Dr_Willis> Gosha,  check the /etc/fstab file and see if the floppy drive is even Mentioned in there. If it is - then it should have a directory in /media
[09:39] <MenZa> np marlun :)
[09:39] <k31th> xfcefreak: might just nuke this install.
[09:39] <k31th> and go bk to to 5.10 on gnome ?
[09:39] <Gosha> nano etc/fstab ?
[09:39] <Gosha> +/
[09:39] <xfcefreak> criminy: build it yourself than im just telling you grabbing the repo will stop 1.5 from conflickting or you can pin gaim2 so you dont get updates for it
[09:39] <Dr_Willis> Gosha,  that would allow the user to view it.. correct.
[09:39] <criminy> oh! pin..okay
[09:39] <Gosha> k
[09:39] <Dr_Willis> Gosha,  or cat /etc/fstab
[09:39] <MenZa> megaman123: sudo pico /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:39] <criminy> thanks. I forgot what 'pin' meant
[09:40] <xfcefreak> !pinning
[09:40] <ubotu> methinks pinning is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PinningHowto
[09:40] <Linuturk> i just installed a wireless device with ndiswrapper. it worked wonderfully until I rebooted
[09:40] <MenZa> go down to the resolutions-part and add your desired resolution, on all the points.
[09:40] <Linuturk> the device still shows up in the nework settings
[09:40] <Linuturk> and says it has 100% signal strengh. should I modprobe ndiswrapper again? how can I get it to do that automatically?
[09:41] <winston> Ive got a prob with breeezy on my ppc install on  a G3 bronze keyboard powerpc: When I boot without internet access, the GNOME interface does not load (useless brown screen without anything but a mouse pointer), I can boot up in safe terminal and lauuch programs, but I'd really prefer fixing the problem
[09:41] <Dr_Willis> in /etc/modules - is one way
[09:41] <Gosha> ... yeah.. it says flppy something there
[09:41] <squidbullets> nalioth=8D you gonna help me with this?
[09:41] <Dr_Willis> Gosha,  then you should be able to access/mount it. its  possible its set up where just root can access it.
[09:42] <Dr_Willis> Gosha,  try 'mount' and see if its mounted
[09:42] <Linuturk> Dr_Willis: was that directed at me?
[09:42] <Dr_Willis> Linuturk,  yep.
[09:42] <megaman123> no one familiar with DVB and ubuntu here ??
[09:42] <Gosha> ...only mount in console?
[09:42] <Dr_Willis> Gosha,  as a test and see.
[09:42] <Dr_Willis> Gosha,  yes 'mount' is the command
[09:43] <Gosha> can't see it there
[09:43] <Dr_Willis> Gosha,  then try mounting
[09:44] <Dr_Willis> mount /media/WhatevertheNameOFTheFloppyDirIs
[09:44] <Dr_Willis> :) since i dont have a floppy i dont know what Ubuntu calls it
[09:44] <arrinmurr> megaman123: well, i'm using dvb with kaffeine
[09:44] <Gosha> .... O_o
[09:44] <Dr_Willis> So you got to look in /media/ and see what dirs are there
[09:45] <Gosha> nothing with floppy lol
[09:45] <Dr_Willis> Gosha,  what does the fstab entry for floppy say exactly then.
[09:45] <Gosha> wait
[09:46] <megaman123> arrinmurr: what dvb card do you have?
[09:46] <megaman123> i have SS2
[09:47] <axisys> biovore: hey i see the configure says ./configure --enable-debug=full --prefix=`kde-config --prefix`
[09:47] <axisys> biovore: but i do not run kde
[09:47] <axisys> biovore: so i should change kde to gnome?
[09:47] <arrinmurr> megaman123: Terratec Cinergy 1200 DVB-C
[09:47] <comrade> where can I set the option to only search when disconnected for my wireless, I was reading on a forum it's in network manager, but I can't find that
[09:47] <axisys> biovore: i will just user /usr/bin as prefix instead
[09:47] <megaman123> arrinmurr: i got it to scan but when i try to open xine it gives me a demux error
[09:47] <IamEthos> what version of Gnome runs on Breezy?
[09:48] <Dr_Willis> --prefix=`kde-config   - is using that `kde-config` progrm (see the backticks) to get the setting I belive
[09:48] <sval> IamEthos, 2.12.1
[09:48] <arrinmurr> megaman123: you got what to scan?
[09:48] <megaman123> arrinmurr: i got it to scan Hotbird and got the channels.conf
[09:49] <SS2> megaman123: hope you don't have me ;)
[09:49] <megaman123> arrinmurr: and i get the szap to run
[09:49] <axisys> biovore: how did u skip the KDE error.. /usr/bin seems not helping
[09:49] <Gosha> /dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto  0       0
[09:49] <megaman123> SS2: :)))) no, you're quite safe
[09:49] <SS2> ok :)
[09:49] <arrinmurr> megaman123: hmm.. i  haven't really used the separate small utilities for scanning etc. for a long time, since kaffeine does it all
[09:50] <minerale> hi, I have intalled ubuntu for AMD64... big mistake... (graphics don't work right, no codecs, no flash no firefox1.5) ... how do I "uninstall" it and then install ubuntu 32bit ?
[09:50] <Gosha> i tried a cd and it showed the /media/cd0 thingie in the mount command
[09:50] <megaman123> it does ... i will try it as soon as my updates finish
[09:50] <Dr_Willis> Gosha,  theres no /media/floppy0 directory eh?   'ls -l /media/floppy*' and double check
[09:50] <megaman123> arrinmurr: what pre-req's do i need to have installed ??
[09:51] <megaman123> arrinmurr: or do i find it in Synaptic??
[09:51] <arrinmurr> megaman123: it brings everything it needs with it when it's being installed
[09:51] <arrinmurr> megaman123: yes
[09:51] <Gosha> floppy * or 0?
[09:51] <megaman123> arrinmurr: nice :)))
[09:52] <Dr_Willis> * is a wildcard. :P Bash Fundamentals.
[09:52] <Dr_Willis> It pays well - to read a few bash tutorials when you have the spare time.
[09:52] <arrinmurr> megaman123: but it's a kde program, so it will bring so kde libraries with it. it worth it though, unless you're going to make a pvr box or something, in which case something like mythtv or vdr would be better
[09:53] <Gosha> says lrwxwxwxwx something and then floppy0 total 0
[09:53] <megaman123> arrinmurr: i can not get either of them to work :( been at it for the last 72 hours non stop
[09:53] <Linuturk> ok, i need a sound guy. I've got a emachines m2350. I've followed directions in the ubuntu forums for configuring it's sound, but it didn't work. I can adjust it's volume with the tray icon, and the buttons on the laptop, but I don't hear any of the startup sounds at all. Can someone help me troubleshoot this? what additional info would help you help me?
[09:54] <Dr_Willis> Gosha,  so the dir is there.
[09:54] <Gosha> ...dunno
[09:54] <Dr_Willis> Gosha,  as a user you 'should' be able to mount it then. 'mount /media/floppy' (there IS a floppy in the drive correct?_
[09:54] <Dr_Willis> Donno? you just Looked and it was there. :P
[09:54] <arrinmurr> megaman123: yeah, kaffeine is like a heaven compared to them in that sense ;)
[09:55] <megaman123> arrinmurr: i'll give it a try..i still have like 30 mins of updates to go
[09:55] <Dr_Willis> Gosha,  Under the Menus -> Places/Computer --> there 'should' be a floppy drive icon in there as well.
[09:55] <Gosha> .. says "lrwxwxw><something> root root /media/floppy -> flopy0" and more down: "/media/floppy0: total 0"
[09:56] <arrinmurr> megaman123: but kaffeine is not a media center like mythtv, but just a media player with great dvb capabilities
[09:56] <IamEthos> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=32845 <-I can't seem to make this theme work, would anyone mind taking a look at it?
[09:56] <_Dez> can anyone help me in a privmsg?
[09:56] <winston> I require assisance to fix a boot problem
[09:56] <sval> _Dez, what about ?
[09:56] <Gosha> yay, it worked
[09:56] <megaman123> arrinmurr: i will settle for anything that gives me dvb picture for now
[09:56] <_Dez> sval im trying to install fluxbox and i installed ubuntu server im missing a few libs
[09:56] <Gosha> thanks alot
[09:57] <sjk> winston:  what's the issue?
[09:57] <Dr_Willis> Gosha,  if you see the floppy icon in that Places/Computer - area.. you need to RIGHT CLICK and 'mount' the thing. :P
[09:57] <megaman123> arrinmurr: i'm telling u i've been trying to set vdr up for the last 3 days and i'm done
[09:57] <winston> Ive got a prob with breeezy on my ppc install on  a G3 bronze keyboard powerpc: When I boot without internet access, the GNOME interface does not load (useless brown screen without anything but a mouse pointer), I can boot up in safe terminal and lauuch programs, but I'd really prefer fixing the problem
[09:57] <Dr_Willis> Gosha,  perhaps that was what you were not doing? Be sure to Unmount the floppy befor removing it also
[09:57] <arrinmurr> megaman123: hehe :)
[09:57] <sval> _Dez, did you try to install fluxbox via apt ?
[09:57] <_Dez> yes sval
[09:57] <k31th> xfcefreak: dude, is best option to roll back to stable version of kubuntu
[09:58] <sval> _Dez, what's the error message ?
[09:58] <xfcefreak> k31th: no such thing
[09:58] <_Dez> i cant even apt-get install anymore
[09:58] <k31th> xfcefreak: ?
[09:58] <xfcefreak> DapperDrake: has 3.5.2 i think
[09:58] <Gosha> k, why?
[09:58] <xfcefreak> oops
[09:58] <_Dez> o crap one sec
[09:58] <sval> _Dez, try 'sudo apt-get install -f fluxbox'
[09:58] <k31th> xfcefreak: i mean drop back to breezy ?
[09:59] <Dr_Willis> Gosha,  becuase if you dont - it may not write all the changes to the disk
[09:59] <rungek> hi. I am running skype right now. I can speak (they hear me), But I do not hear anything :/
[09:59] <rungek> any ideaS?
[09:59] <xfcefreak> k31th: only way to do that is to re-install breezy
[09:59] <Gosha> oh, k
[09:59] <Dr_Willis> Gosha,  same with USB memory-stick drives as well
[09:59] <sjk> winston:  I have a similar issue...  but if there is no network connection it just takes a long time to move past that point
[09:59] <Gosha> .. wel thanks alot
[09:59] <Gosha> +l
[09:59] <sval> runedude, ' killall esd'
[09:59] <k31th> xfcefreak: bollox
[09:59] <sval> rungek, 'killall esd'
[09:59] <_Dez> nevemrind sval i figured it out.. i forgot to ifup my wlan0
[09:59] <_Dez> :)
[09:59] <xfcefreak> that is why it says dont not use on production pc
[09:59] <rungek> sval, ok
[09:59] <winston> sjk so its just a matter of waiting?
[09:59] <axisys> i am going to try this http://listengnome.free.fr/ instead.. amarok is nothing bad headache :-(
[10:00] <graveson> can anyone help me with transcode.been struggling for some time now.i am trying to convert from rm to mp3
[10:00] <sjk> winston:  yes...  or you can change the time to wait...
[10:00] <k31th> xfcefreak: is this bug well known ?
[10:00] <k31th> i.e its likely to be fixed ??
[10:01] <xfcefreak> k31th: i dont know the guy decided the bug was too hard to report so he didnt do it and i couldnt find one on it
[10:01] <winston> sjk how do you change the time to wait ?
[10:01] <sval> rungek, is it working now ?
[10:01] <sjk> winston:  you can edit this file - /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf
[10:01] <xfcefreak> when i get a spare moment i will look again
[10:02] <sjk> winstion:  you will see a #timeout 60, un comment that line, you could make the timeout 20 seconds
[10:02] <rungek> sval, dident help
[10:02] <FireplaceTV> who's gonna help me mount a firewire drive on my g3??? :-)
[10:02] <winston> sjk thanks
[10:02] <sjk> winston:  hopefully that will help
[10:02] <megaman123> ok... a tricky question... how do i update the dvb to the latest cvs ? i have the location of them..
[10:02] <comrade> anyone know why I can't download eclipse through syaptic?
[10:03] <sval> runedude, did you check if the microphone is muted ?
[10:03] <sval> rungek,  did you check if the microphone is muted ?
[10:03] <megaman123>  As an alternative you can also use the (unstable) dvb-kernel drivers from CVS:
[10:03] <megaman123> cvs -d :pserver:anonymous@linuxtv.org:/cvs/linuxtv login
[10:03] <megaman123> (Just hit enter at password promt.)
[10:03] <megaman123> cvs -d :pserver:anonymous@linuxtv.org:/cvs/linuxtv co dvb-kernel
[10:03] <megaman123> This creates a directory named dvb-kernel in your current working path. Change to dvb-kernel and follow the README found there. Note that this works only with a kernel newer that 2.4.20 or with a kernel 2.6.
[10:03] <axisys> how to add listen so `!listen' will point to http://listengnome.free.fr/
[10:03] <megaman123> that is whar i found on a guide
[10:03] <megaman123> is that it?!
[10:03] <rungek> sval, they hear me, I do not hear them. Theirs work
[10:04] <winston> sjk should I chanbge the retry?
[10:04] <sval> rungek, my mistake :D
[10:04] <sval> rungek, try lsof /dev/dsp
[10:04] <phoul> Hello
[10:04] <phoul> Umm can somone give me the link to the seavas website thing?
[10:04] <Killgore> whats the latest version of win
[10:04] <Killgore> wine
[10:04] <sjk> winston:  I would leave the retry 60 commented out - I think
[10:05] <phoul> ubotu, seavas
[10:05] <sval> Killgore, 0.9.11 on winehq
[10:05] <ubotu> phoul: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:05] <phoul> dang
[10:05] <phoul> ubotu, ubotu
[10:05] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[10:05] <k31th> xfcefreak: hum. I guess my options are. remove kubuntu-desktop and install ubuntu-desktop ?
[10:05] <axisys> !listen
[10:05] <phoul> !ubotu seavas
[10:05] <ubotu> phoul: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:05] <Killgore> sval: what other things should i get from synaptic apart from just wine
[10:05] <rungek> sval, error about ext3
[10:06] <xfcefreak> k31th: no you wont beable to apt is not going to work
[10:06] <xfcefreak> k31th: your only options are wait till the bug is fixed or re-install breezy
[10:06] <axisys> how to make ubotu to learn about "listen" .. it seems lot stable and works like amarok but for gnome
[10:06] <phoul> arg can somone tell me where i can find seavas
[10:06] <FireplaceTV> if i plug in a firewire device, what is its name in the /dev directory?
[10:06] <xfcefreak> phoul: i dont think hes around right now
[10:06] <phoul> No i mean the mirror seavas's mirror
[10:06] <k31th> xfcefreak: Wat about download ubuntu dapper flight 6 and reinstall that ?
[10:07] <phoul> I have been lookin on google for a good 45 mins and for some reason cant find it
[10:07] <k31th> Wat plays nicer with ubuntu gnome or kde ?
[10:07] <phoul> i like gnome i think kde looks like crap but thats just me
[10:07] <xfcefreak> k31th: what ever you want to do but your gonna find bugs in it anywher eyou go
[10:07] <k31th> maybe ill roll bk to breezy
[10:08] <k31th> i.e reinstall it.
[10:08] <phoul> xfcefreak, do you know the seavas website?
[10:08] <kbrooks> !tell phoul about seveas
[10:08] <xfcefreak> !seveas
[10:08] <ubotu> Seveas has a semi-popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[10:08] <kbrooks> phoul: :)
[10:09] <sjk> winston:  the other option I guess I should mention is to completely disable network configuration altogether at startup
[10:09] <phoul> thank you kbrooks
[10:09] <megaman123> !info cvs
[10:09] <ubotu> cvs: (Concurrent Versions System), section devel, is optional. Version: 1:1.12.9-13ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1407 kB, Installed size: 3016 kB
[10:09] <_Dez> i love ubuntu
[10:09] <axisys> !info learn
[10:10] <crimsun> yohan: ?
[10:10] <winston> sjk where do you edit that?
[10:10] <winston> sjk I rebooted and it seems to load now after a short wait
[10:10] <comrade> when I try to install elcipse-sdk with synaptic, I get an error of unresolvable dependencies for eclipse-jdt and eclipse-pde
[10:11] <sjk> winston:  to avoid configuring the network interface at boot - edit /etc/network/interfaces - and comment out the auto eth1 (or auto eth0) line
[10:12] <sovin> hello.
[10:14] <graveson> if there is n one that know transcode can someone tell me if mplayer can encode from rm to mp3
[10:14] <crimsun> yes, use mencoder.
[10:15] <comrade> does anyone know why I would get that error when trying to install eclipse?
[10:15] <sjk> comrade:  what's the error?
[10:15] <comrade> I said it like 10 lines
[10:16] <comrade> unresolvable dependencies
[10:17] <ema92> sorry, comrade you try to compile it or to install the .deb pakage from apt or dpkg?
[10:17] <comrade> I'm just trying to use apt-get through synaptic gui
[10:18] <ema92> ah...through synaptic...mm and is your sources.list correct?
[10:19] <ema92> you said that you can't resolv some dependencies...
[10:19] <phoul> arg im trying to add the seavas repo and i dont know what im doing wrong but i cant get it working
[10:20] <comrade> is that the repositories menu?
[10:20] <ema92> sorry I have to go away
[10:20] <sjk> comrade: yeah
[10:20] <megaman123> anyone tried the vdr package ?
[10:20] <megaman123> the one in ubuntu ?
[10:20] <comrade> I have a binary and source one and I clicked like every thing for each of them
[10:21] <sovin> does anyone know whats wrong with freenode.net?
[10:21] <sovin> i've been getting several 'connection refused,' replies.
[10:22] <sjk> comrade:  I'm not sure what could be wrong.
[10:23] <comrade> do I have to install both of the bootstrap packages before the other ones?
[10:23] <Killgore> whats up with synaptic
[10:24] <X3lectric> Hi
[10:24] <sjk> comrade:  you have eclipse-base installed?
[10:24] <X3lectric> Xubuntu for xbox username/password, anyone?
[10:25] <phoul> whoop got it i was putting "all" in the wrong space
[10:26] <ZigZag> hi! I'm getting a rather weird bug in Dapper, does anyone else see this: in the FileChooser, and in the Computer folder, I have 7 different floppy drive icons... and I don't even have a floppy drive connected...
[10:26] <opex> is there an equivalent of skype in ubuntu?
[10:26] <crimsun> ZigZag: installer bug that has already been fixed.
[10:27] <megaman123> what happened to packages w32codecs and libdivx4linux??
[10:27] <comrade> no
[10:28] <comrade> but it gives me a similar error if I just try to do that
[10:28] <ZigZag> crimsun: ok, good! so I don't have to file it, I figure? how do I get rid of them on the installed system now?
[10:28] <gouchi> default login on liveCD is who ?
[10:28] <gouchi> Because I want to access in ssh
[10:28] <X3lectric> That what I wanna know @gouchi
[10:28] <opex> is there an equivalent of skype in ubuntu?
[10:29] <Tomcat_> opex: GnomeMeeting / Ekiga
[10:29] <X3lectric> asterix @opex
[10:29] <gouchi> opex : or openwengo
[10:29] <ZigZag> opex: there is ekiga that allows voice conversation... otherwise - it _is_ possible to install skype itself...
[10:29] <opex> zigzag: thanks
[10:29] <Xilo> opex: skype has linux download
[10:29] <opex> ah
[10:30] <Xilo> http://www.skype.com/download/skype/linux/
[10:30] <Xilo> there you go
[10:30] <comrade> is there a way to edit which modules autoload in ubuntu
[10:30] <Xilo> have fun
[10:30] <ubu_usr_1> Has anyone got any recommendations for getting itunes to work on ubuntu. I can connect my ipod but only to use it as a removable drive right now.
[10:30] <opex> xilo: ( . .); i shouldn't reply so much on synaptix
[10:30] <opex> thanks
[10:30] <Xilo> np
[10:30] <X3lectric> user/password for xubuntu for xbox
[10:30] <theshibboleth> how do I force quit an application from the terminal?
[10:31] <pinkmermaid> What would be the name/path of the tclsh interpreter after I've isntalled tcl?
[10:31] <Xilo> kill -9 procid
[10:31] <aqraw> xubuntu for xobox360?
[10:31] <Xilo> theshibboleth: that's how
[10:31] <megaman123> how can i see ubuntu on my windows network?? share folders i mean
[10:31] <X3lectric> not xbox 360 normal xbox user/pass
[10:31] <arrinmurr> X3lectric: http://www.xbox-linux.org/wiki/XUbuntu
[10:31] <theshibboleth> xilo:thanks
[10:32] <Xilo> megaman123: if you are using ext2/3 partitions, there's a driver to read/write them in windows
[10:32] <XhyldazhK> hi all... I cannot record cdroms... nautilus tells me that i need to insert the cd even when the cd is on the drive... can anyone help me?
[10:32] <luis_> is there a way to use brazilian portuguese in the dictionary bundled with ubuntu?
[10:32] <gouchi> ubu_usr_1 : why don't use rhythmbox or Banshee ?
[10:32] <ZombieLoffe> Uh... what am I doing wrong; Upon installing ubuntu (5.10), I get stuck on "[!!]  Partition Disk - ??? ??? [Go back]  [Continue] ". Buttons don't do anything.
[10:32] <gouchi> ubu_usr_1 : you want to access to itunes catalog ?
[10:32] <ZombieLoffe> And yeah, I'm a total noob at this.
[10:32] <megaman123> Xilo: the drivers are on the windows side or linux side?
[10:32] <Xilo> windows
[10:32] <Xilo> you install on windows
[10:32] <ubu_usr_1> gouchi, will that send mp3's to my ipod?
[10:32] <crimsun> ZigZag: you'll need to search malone for the appropriate bug # (and thus, resolution)
[10:32] <gouchi> ubu_usr_1 : yep
[10:32] <Xilo> and you can access your linux ext2/ext3 partitions
[10:33] <ubu_usr_1> gouchi, cool! thanks, I'll check it out.
[10:33] <megaman123> Xilo: you happen to know what they are? where i mean
[10:33] <Xilo> oh
[10:33] <Xilo> you mean network
[10:33] <megaman123> ye s:)
[10:33] <Xilo> nevermind i misread
[10:33] <mendi> hello everybody, NEWBIE greets you!
[10:33] <Xilo> you setup samba
[10:33] <ZigZag> crimsun: can't find it... tried already...
[10:33] <Xilo> for network
[10:34] <megaman123> ya.. i want to move files around
[10:34] <megaman123> movies and stuff
[10:34] <luis_> is there a way to use brazilian portuguese in the dictionary bundled with ubuntu?
[10:34] <mendi> how can I get files from winxp through network?
[10:34] <megaman123> :)))
[10:34] <Xilo> mendi: samba
[10:34] <X3lectric> mas ke raio e a palavra chave  e o nome usuario para xubuntu para xbox???
[10:34] <mendi> Xilo: could you tell me how i can install it?
[10:34] <gouchi> megaman123 : u can use nautilus directly
[10:34] <Xilo> mendi: sorry, i've never used it =/
[10:35] <mendi> Xilo: lol
[10:35] <luis_> x3letric assim ninguem vai te endender :)
[10:35] <megaman123> gouchi: whats that?
[10:35] <X3lectric> talvez tu?
[10:35] <XhyldazhK> i cannot burn cdroms... please help me boys
[10:35] <luis_> :)
[10:35] <X3lectric> ;) sabes
[10:35] <Xilo> anyone know a fix for the "grub installation failed" in the dapper install cds?
[10:35] <luis_> infelizmente no
[10:35] <xfcefreak> antone have a clue what lanuage X3lectric is speaking?
[10:35] <FireplaceTV> i cannot mount my firewire, please help me boys
[10:36] <luis_> portuguese
[10:36] <mendi> is there any linux application that can read .rm extension (real player)?
[10:36] <Killgore> run around screaming Xilo
[10:36] <jadaz87> !es
[10:36] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:36] <FireplaceTV> mendi: isn't that what the Helix player is for?
[10:36] <criminy> !tell mendi about RestrictedFormats
[10:36] <luis_> is there a way to use brazilian portuguese in the dictionary bundled with ubuntu?
[10:36] <X3lectric> exactly
[10:36] <xfcefreak> !pu
[10:36] <ubotu> xfcefreak: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:36] <xfcefreak> !de
[10:36] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de
[10:36] <XhyldazhK> X3lectric: hablas espaol?
[10:36] <Killgore> can someone tell me y synaptic keeps disconnecting me
[10:36] <xfcefreak> thats not it either :(
[10:36] <XhyldazhK> spanish i think
[10:36] <xfcefreak> !po
[10:36] <ubotu> xfcefreak: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:36] <xfcefreak> its potugease
[10:36] <X3lectric> Si hablo un poquito
[10:37] <xfcefreak> !br
[10:37] <criminy> mendi: helix player can but xine and mplayer can with certain non-free plugins
[10:37] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[10:37] <xfcefreak> ^^6
[10:37] <jadaz87> there we go
[10:37] <X3lectric> PORTGUES rules
[10:37] <jadaz87> i keep forgetting it is !br
[10:37] <mendi> FireplaceTV: what is that? Helix? how can i install it?
[10:37] <FireplaceTV> mendi: i don't know for sure, but do a google search on it. i think it's real's linux player.
[10:37] <xfcefreak> me too there is one for putogese but i can never remember it
[10:37] <X3lectric> brazileiro is modern portuguese
[10:37] <mendi> criminy: is it free?
[10:37] <k31th> xfcefreak: bk up on ubuntu  - gnome - breezy
[10:38] <mendi> sorry, FireplaceTV: is Helix free?
[10:38] <crimsun> mendi: yes
[10:38] <FireplaceTV> mendi: if you can do it with plugins, then get xine or mplayer
[10:38] <xfcefreak> k31th: the issue was known and will be fixed id say 2 days to be safe
[10:38] <X3lectric> anyone ten a palavra chave e o username do ubunto?
[10:38] <xfcefreak> X3lectric: join #ubuntu-br
[10:38] <luis_> x3letric vc quer a senha do usuario root?
[10:39] <k31th> xfcefreak: yeah i can upgrade then tbh no rush, my work machine is running kubuntu - dapper np odd...
[10:39] <ZombieLoffe> I get stuck on the [!!]  Partition Disk screen upon installing - buttons don't do anything and the only text on there is ??? ???. Any help?
[10:39] <xfcefreak> k31th: more than likely you didnt do the last updates for it and i wouldnt yet
[10:40] <k31th> xfcefreak:  i thought the same.
[10:40] <Xilo> any easier way to fix the grub installation error from dapper install cds besides booting to a livecd and chroot and apt-get?
[10:40] <rungek> Hi. I am trying to get skype to work on ubuntu breezy. I can speak, but not hear what they say. Sound works otherwise (music etc)
[10:40] <FireplaceTV> what device in the /dev directory should match up to my external firewire drive?
[10:40] <FireplaceTV> ?
[10:40] <Xilo> FireplaceTV: usually sd*
[10:40] <X3lectric> yes quero please luis
[10:40] <xfcefreak> Xilo: re-insall?
[10:40] <Xilo> xfcefreak: it does it from the install cd it won't install it
[10:41] <FireplaceTV> Xilo: so what happens if the closest I can find is /dev/hda and /dev/hdc, which are the cdrom and the internal drive respectively
[10:41] <xfcefreak> Xilo: what error is it?
[10:41] <Xilo> xfcefreak: Grub installation failed.
[10:41] <luis_> X3l3tric: v no terminal e digite 'sudo passwd root' e escolha sua senha
[10:41] <mendi> how can I get files from winxp through network?
[10:42] <X3lectric> sera que sim?? Vou tentar Luis... ;)
[10:42] <xfcefreak> Xilo: no errors at all other than that i would look and see if the md5sum is correct
[10:42] <megaman123> a quick question..if i install packages as root, will i be able to use them as a differenet user???
[10:42] <Xilo> xfcefreak: it's correct
[10:42] <Xilo> xfcefreak: other people have had the same problems on the forum with no real fix
[10:42] <Xilo> FireplaceTV: it should have picked it up automagically
[10:43] <Xilo> FireplaceTV: it did for mine
[10:43] <xfcefreak> Xilo: no such thing as a real fix until it is stable (either md5sum is off or you burned it too fast or they are still having issues with the packages)
[10:43] <mendi> how can I get files from winxp through network?
[10:44] <Killgore> mendi: samba
[10:44] <luis_> X3letric: eh assim mesmo, eu fiz isso e deu certo ;)
[10:44] <Killgore> mendi: shared files i assume you are talking about
[10:44] <mendi> Killgore: thanks, but ow to install it?
[10:44] <Xilo> xfcefreak: i'm not a noob lol
[10:44] <X3lectric> ta a loading
[10:44] <Frogzoo> megaman123: that's standard procedure
[10:44] <xfcefreak> X3lectric: if you are not going to speak english in this channel please go to the channel for your language
[10:44] <mendi> yes, i have shared in windows a folder and wanna get the files in it
[10:44] <xfcefreak> Xilo: i never said you were
[10:44] <Apostle^> X3lectric: vamanos
[10:44] <Apostle^> vato
[10:45] <Xilo> xfcefreak: you sound like it though
[10:45] <Killgore> mendi: system -> admin -> shared folders
[10:45] <FireplaceTV> Xilo: you think maybe since i didn't hvae the drive in when i did the install, then ubuntu just didn't install um, drivers or whatever for it?
[10:45] <megaman123> just checking :))
[10:45] <X3lectric> Esperanto nwould be nice
[10:45] <xfcefreak> Xilo: i dont have your specs next to your name
[10:45] <Xilo> FireplaceTV: maybe
[10:45] <FireplaceTV> gr
[10:46] <Xilo> hmm weird
[10:46] <NxO> hello, someone can give me a page to download desktop theme, for Ubuntu ?
[10:46] <Xilo> it says grub failed, but it installed it anyway
[10:46] <Frogzoo> !tell NxO about themes
[10:46] <Killgore> www.gnome-look.org NxO
[10:46] <Apostle^> NxO: gnome-look.org
[10:46] <alex_> was freenode down?
[10:46] <chavira> gnome-look
[10:46] <wenko> the server i was on was
[10:46] <xfcefreak> alex_: yes
[10:46] <NxO> thanks !!
[10:47] <xfcefreak> alex_: they were working on it and not letting anyone join than they let a few join now its done
[10:47] <pappan> hi all
[10:47] <X3lectric> didnt work for the xbox xubuntu
[10:47] <X3lectric> :(
[10:47] <pappan> alex_, yes i guess so
[10:47] <Killgore> X3lectric: whats this about xbox's?
[10:48] <pappan> alex_, i got connection refused couple of times
[10:48] <xfcefreak> pappan: your server tab will tell you if you were here during it
[10:49] <Snow_Shelter> hello
[10:49] <jadaz87> hello
[10:49] <Killgore> hello
[10:49] <luis_> but ppl, now plz help me.. how can I get a brazilian portuguese dictionary??
[10:49] <chavira> hola
[10:49] <Snow_Shelter> I was using the live CD on my PowerBook DL (1.67, 1440 x 960) and I wanted to install
[10:49] <alex_> what's the commnand to install a .deb file
[10:49] <gnomefreak> alex_: sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[10:49] <pappan> alex_, dpkg -i
[10:49] <Killgore> alex_: dpgk -i package
[10:49] <Snow_Shelter> unfortunately, when I tried to install trough the alias on the desktop, it failed
[10:49] <chavira> dpkg -i
[10:49] <Snow_Shelter> this is 6.06 Dapper Flight 5 PPC
[10:50] <X3lectric> xubuntu runs on xbox
[10:50] <NxO> frogxoo, what kind of theme i have to download?GTK 1.x Themes this? or this GTK 2.x Themes ?
[10:50] <Killgore> sory no exp with Dapper
[10:50] <Killgore> GTK 2.x
[10:50] <X3lectric> but i cant get the user/password to work
[10:50] <gnomefreak> Snow_Shelter: please join #ubuntu+1 for dapper
[10:50] <NxO> frogzoo, what kind of theme i have to download?GTK 1.x Themes this? or this GTK 2.x Themes ?
[10:50] <Snow_Shelter> gnomefreak: thanks
[10:50] <gnomefreak> yw
[10:50] <NxO> killgore, thanks..
[10:51] <X3lectric> @luis if I get mine working on xbox I tell you how to get brazilian
[10:51] <luis_> como assim xbox? :P
[10:52] <alex_> i'm trying to install somthing, and it says i don't have the kernal source
[10:52] <X3lectric> Xbox sabes
[10:52] <X3lectric> Xbox
[10:52] <X3lectric> Xubuntu runs on the xbox
[10:52] <X3lectric> AHHHHHHHHHH
[10:52] <luis_> ahh
[10:53] <luis_> orra q legal :D
[10:53] <pixelmonkey> how does one make apache2 allow user's /public_html directories to run CGI scripts, and specifically mod_perl scripts?
[10:53] <X3lectric> USER=live
[10:53] <X3lectric> Password+live
[10:53] <X3lectric> I mean password=live
[10:53] <X3lectric> YESSSSSsss
[10:53] <X3lectric> How can I be so blind
[10:54] <megaman123> i made a shared folder on ubuntu and when it try to connect (ntwork from win) it asks me user/pass?
[10:54] <infamouse> what packages do i need to download that include files such as stdio.h so i can use gcc to compile programs?
[10:54] <Killgore> megaman123: because linux is secure
[10:55] <Killgore> megaman123: you will have to make it public
[10:55] <megaman123> how??
[10:55] <gnomefreak> infamouse: start with sudo apt-get install build-essential
[10:55] <void^> infamouse: build-essential
[10:56] <megaman123> it wont let me in, i even used my linux user/pass
[10:56] <X3lectric> @ arrinmurr THANK you for the answer...:) right on my freakin face
[10:56] <infamouse> gnomefreak, void^, thanks
[10:56] <necro> Upon booting my Ubuntu breezy badger system for the first time after cd installation, continued installation ensued, but an error and now I'm at a terminal.  How can I continue the process?
[10:57] <gnomefreak> infamouse: anytime
[10:57] <chavira> startx
[10:58] <megaman123> how can i make a folder public ?
[10:58] <rungek> what should I install to get the app "esddsp"?
[10:58] <X3lectric> Thank you thank you :)
[10:58] <X3lectric> Now to see if I can get Br on it for Luis
[10:58] <luis_> X3letric, agora pode me ajudar com o dicionario? :P
[11:00] <X3lectric> Im gonna try Luis... Hold on a sec
[11:00] <luis_> ok
[11:00] <luis_> thx
[11:00] <Zarephath> anyone point me to the main wiki page that explains how to configure CUPS to allow windows printers to print to it?
[11:00] <ZombieLoffe> what the damned, I can't partition the disk when installing - help?
[11:00] <runedude> !cups
[11:00] <ubotu> cups is probably The Common UNIX Printing System (or CUPS) is a printing system and general replacement for lpd and the like.  See also http://linuxprinting.org/
[11:00] <runedude> maybe go there? heh
[11:00] <runedude> i guess.
[11:01] <megaman123> !info shared folders
[11:01] <Zarephath> runedude: Is that a wiki?
[11:01] <runedude> they probably have a link to some resources
[11:01] <Zarephath> heh I guess..you can't read
[11:02] <runedude> i can read, silly
[11:04] <NxO> Hello =).
[11:04] <pinkmermaid> Which is the best DOS emulator? :3
[11:04] <luis_> DOSBox
[11:04] <X3lectric> still reloading Luis I forgot to plugin mouse
[11:04] <pinkmermaid> Thank you. :)
[11:05] <luis_> DOSBox, a x86 emulator with DOS - An open source DOS emulator for BeOS, Linux, MacOS X, and Windows. Primarily focuses on running DOS Games.
[11:05] <luis_> ;)
[11:09] <chavira> shockwave for linux?
[11:09] <NxO> Killgore, i have a problem, all the themes tar.gz I can't install it
[11:10] <luis_> there is no shockwave for linux
[11:10] <FireplaceTV> chavira: not on ppc! ;-)
[11:10] <FireplaceTV> oh i'm talking about flash. nm.
[11:10] <kkathman> shockwave or flash?
[11:10] <luis_> but, you can emulate it, check https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[11:10] <truz24> ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:819:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave - that happens when i try to play a flash video if i open firefox while xmms is playing a mp3
[11:10] <truz24> Is there a method to fix that?
[11:11] <chavira> thanks!!
[11:11] <Killgore> NxO: just click install them in the Theme Manager
[11:11] <NxO> killgore, i try to do it in system/preferences/themes, moving the tar.gaz to the windows and throw me that is invalid
[11:11] <pappan> i am having difficulty setting wifi
[11:11] <pappan> hi
[11:11] <pappan> am i still connected ??
[11:11] <pappan> this is bad
[11:11] <pappan> anyone has any problem using wifi with intel pro 2200
[11:11] <Killgore> NxO: hmm
[11:11] <Killgore> NxO: yeah i had that problem once but never fixed it
[11:12] <NxO> killgore, what can i do ?
[11:12] <pappan> it recognized the access point.. but i am unable to figure out why it is not connecting
[11:12] <Killgore> NxO: try another theme
[11:14] <FrogzoozZz> pappan: you use WEP or WAP?
[11:14] <pappan> FrogzoozZz, WEP
[11:15] <NxO> killgore, what kind of themes? all of the one i have download are tar.gz,  does excist another kind?
[11:15] <FrogzoozZz> pappan: suggest you make sure you can connect unencrypted & take it from there
[11:15] <Pupeno> Hello.
[11:15] <fatehaze> I'm setting up Ubuntu to be a server at an astronomy lab, but wifi is a problem
[11:15] <Killgore> NxO: actually try extracting them from the archive
[11:15] <Pupeno> How do I change the date/time format on Ubuntu/Gnome ?
[11:16] <pappan> FrogzoozZz, sorry i cant do that since i cannot modify the access point
[11:16] <NxO> killgore, and then?
[11:16] <fatehaze> Does anyone know if I can connect to T-Mobile's EDGE service under linux with a Sony Ericson GC98 card?
[11:16] <Killgore> NxO: see whats in them, they may be compatible with the Theme Manager
[11:17] <NxO> killgore, let me see
[11:18] <fatehaze> Anyone know?  Or can anyone think of way to connect this server to the internet, about ten miles from the nearest wifi?
[11:19] <NxO> killgore, non of the things in the archive can be used in the theme manager
[11:19] <TheFuzzball> when I run dpkg or anything to do with it it says:Errors were encountered while processing:
[11:19] <TheFuzzball>  kubuntu-docs
[11:19] <TheFuzzball> what do I do to fix this??
[11:19] <fatehaze> We've thought about using antennas to extend the wifi, is there a better option?
[11:20] <RomanK> Hi all!
[11:20] <rafal_> Hi Romek
[11:20] <RomanK> I installed kubuntu on my machine and now i'd like to test gnome... how can i install all packages, so gnome will run just as if i installed ubuntu (not kubuntu)?
[11:20] <rafal_>  sudo cp /usr/share/applications/defaults.list /usr/share/applications/defaults.list_backup
[11:20] <rafal_>  sudo cp /usr/share/applications/defaults.list /tmp/defaults.list_tmp
[11:20] <rafal_>  sudo sed -e 's/audio\/mpeg=.*/audio\/mpeg=XMMS.desktop/g' /tmp/defaults.list_tmp > /tmp/defaults.mp3
[11:20] <rafal_>  sudo sed -e 's/audio\/x-mpegurl=.*/audio\/x-mpegurl=XMMS.desktop/g' /tmp/defaults.mp3 > /tmp/defaults.m3u
[11:20] <rafal_>  sudo sed -e 's/audio\/x-wav=.*/audio\/x-wav=XMMS.desktop/g' /tmp/defaults.m3u > /tmp/defaults.list
[11:20] <rafal_>  sudo mv /tmp/defaults.list /usr/share/applications/defaults.list
[11:20] <rafal_>  sudo rm -f /tmp/defaults.*
[11:20] <RomanK> already tried ubuntu-desktop, but gnome seems still to  miss the language-settings and many icons
[11:21] <Killgore> NxO: dont know then sorry
[11:22] <chavira> apt-add cdrom
[11:22] <NxO> killgore, dont worry! thanks anyway!
[11:24] <NxO> does any one know if excist another kind of format for the themes? ( the tar.gz are invalid in the theme manager )
[11:25] <ubu_usr_1> In Nautilus - can I just type the ip address of a windows machine to view it's files or do I have to install Samba?
[11:25] <Juhaz> smb://ip (or hostname)
[11:25] <fatehaze> Does anyone know about getting a Sony Ericsson GC98 card to connect to the EDGE network under Ubuntu?
[11:26] <ubu_usr_1> Juhaz, thank you so much.
[11:27] <pappan> ubotu, ndiswrapper
[11:27] <ubotu> well, ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[11:27] <fatehaze> Was that for me?
[11:27] <bratsche> Hi guys, any chance we'll get the latest nvidia driver into Dapper, or is that something that is frozen?
[11:28] <fatehaze> Wifi isn't the problem, I want to connect to T-Mobile's EDGE network
[11:29] <fatehaze> We have a server in an observatory that's about 11 miles away from the nearest wifi, but we need it connected somehow
[11:29] <JViz> screw EDGE, i want 4G
[11:29] <fatehaze> I want any internet :(
[11:29] <X3lectric> Luis
[11:29] <X3lectric> https://launchpad.net/people/xubuntu-br
[11:30] <JViz> fatehaze: satelite?
[11:31] <fatehaze> I don't think it's stable enough for our needs
[11:31] <fatehaze> So far the only options seem to be extending the wifi from my house with a series of antennas, or the EDGE network
[11:32] <fatehaze> If I could get on EDGE it'd be roses, but Sony doesn't have any linux drivers for this card
[11:32] <fatehaze> Is there any other way, or is it simply not gonna happen on linux?
[11:32] <JViz> cell isn't any more stable than satellite, is it?
[11:33] <JViz> fatehaze: infact, i hear that, with the right dish, you can connect through most cloud cover and rain
[11:33] <stephelton> how do i get this hideous kubuntu crap off my kdm?
[11:34] <fatehaze> The way the observatory is set up makes for a lot of interference with satellite
[11:34] <fatehaze> Plus too slow, too expensive
[11:34] <lucaas> stephelton, change kdm theme? :>
[11:34] <stephelton> lucaas, know where to do that?
[11:35] <stephelton> lucaas, ah thx
[11:36] <JViz> EDGE isn't exactly fast...
[11:36] <fatehaze> It's better than nothing
[11:36] <fatehaze> But it's probably also a moot point if I can't get this card working
[11:37] <fatehaze> I guess the only option is to extend wifi from my house... hello, eleven mile string of $200 antennas
[11:38] <ubu_usr_1> fatehaze, I am coming late to the conversation -- but I have heard people expand wireless networks w/ two directed antennas - but you need a clear line of site from each location.
[11:38] <fatehaze> The topography makes that difficult
[11:39] <ubu_usr_1> oh, gotcha.
[11:39] <fatehaze> We're in tall, rocky desert
[11:40] <X3lectric> Luis
[11:40] <fatehaze> This is a conundrum wrapped in a riddle wrapped in an enigma
[11:40] <fatehaze> With red chinese dipping sauce
[11:40] <X3lectric> The xubuntu dapper 6.06 has Brazilian
[11:40] <X3lectric> xubuntu the version I am trying for xbox has not :)
[11:41] <Xilo> im trying to use the nvidia drivers, and for some reason it won't load the glx module... i followed the ubuntu nvidia guide too
[11:42] <comrade> is there a way to edit out unneeded modules from autoloading
[11:43] <pvd2006> Synaptic is giving me weird error messages saying that all my list of respositories arent working and all the programs and such that show up under synaptic are only already installed ones.
[11:44] <pvd2006> Did they change URLs?
[11:44] <kkathman> comrade: yes you can...multiple ways
[11:44] <kkathman> but it does take some knowledge to know what you are doing
[11:44] <pvd2006> OK nevermind, it is now working...
[11:45] <comrade> i want to get rid of prism2_usb from loading at startup
[11:45] <bratsche> Hi guys, any chance we'll get the latest nvidia driver into Dapper, or is that something that is frozen?
[11:46] <kkathman> drivers are always subject to insertion
[11:46] <kbrooks> bratsche:
[11:46] <kbrooks> !dapper
[11:46] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[11:46] <kkathman> especially those, and now that its been delayed, probably a decent chance
[11:47] <bratsche> kkathman: Cool, thanks.
[11:47] <kbrooks> kkathman: i dont think a UVF exception will be given to that
[11:47] <megaman123> where are the fonts located?
[11:47] <kbrooks> bratsche: which nvidia driver are you talking about?
[11:47] <megaman123> which dir?
[11:48] <kkathman> kbrooks: well its been done in the past, I know that so I just figured it would make it.  if not native, as a standard pkg
[11:48] <bratsche> kbrooks: 8756 binary drivers.
[11:48] <Xilo> im trying to use the nvidia drivers, and for some reason it won't load the glx module... i followed the ubuntu nvidia guide too
[11:48] <kbrooks> bratsche: i dont think ubuntu will include these in main or anywhere else
[11:49] <kbrooks> except for multiverse
[11:49] <bratsche> kbrooks: Why is that?
[11:49] <kbrooks> bratsche: thhe drivers are ... proprietary and nonfree
[11:50] <megaman123> sorry, but odes anyone know in which folder the fonts are?
[11:50] <bratsche> kbrooks: Oh, okay.  Well, I wasn't paying attention to what repo they're stored in (I'm not sure how to view that from synaptic).
[11:50] <bratsche> But wherever it's stored now, the latest version is 8178.
[11:50] <stephelton> what's the open office package called?
[11:50] <comrade> kkathman, isn't there an autoload.d somewhere on ubuntu?
[11:51] <kkathman> comrade: the things you are looking for are in init.d
[11:51] <kkathman> and some of its subdirs
[11:51] <kkathman> bratsche: there are lots of nvidia things already in dapper
[11:52] <ubu_usr_1> Quick question, I am copying files from my windows box, I have approx 13 - 20 GB of files - should I store them in my home directory or do I need to make a separate folder in bin or something? In other words, is the size of my home directory fixed to a certain amount?
[11:52] <kkathman> usually the specific drivers you have to download and install however
[11:52] <stephelton> what's the open office package called?
[11:52] <kkathman> I know thats what I had to do on SUSE also
[11:53] <bratsche> stephelton: I think it's openoffice2
[11:53] <WildZeck> openoffice.org is te package bame under ubuntu
[11:53] <comrade> kkathman, thanks
[11:54] <bratsche> stephelton: Sorry, openoffice.org2
[11:54] <pvd2006> if you have ffmpeg installed that means you already have libavcodec installed right?
[11:54] <chavira> openoffice.org2
[11:54] <stephelton> i did openoffice.org, the difference significant?
[11:58] <kbrooks> ubu_usr_1: no
[11:58] <ubu_usr_1> kbrooks, thanks
[11:58] <pvd2006> in Ubuntu where are codecs put under? usr/local/lib/codecs?
[11:59] <pvd2006> or is it usr/lib/codecs?