| marseillai | Riddell: upgrade works fine but amarok crash at start | 12:05 |
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| marseillai | i pastebin the konsole output ? | 12:05 |
| marseillai | Riddell: konsole output : http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/648531 and kde crash dialog message : http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/648534 | 12:06 |
| Riddell | marseillai: I had the same, send it to the amarok developers | 12:06 |
| Riddell | LaserJock: yes, fixing | 12:07 |
| Riddell | LaserJock: unless you already have a fix? | 12:07 |
| LaserJock | Riddell: ok, sorry about that. It looked like you just didn't grab the latest debian/rules that I modifed | 12:07 |
| Riddell | quite possibly | 12:08 |
| Riddell | seems to be the case, however kubuntu docs complains about kubuntu-adept which isn't mentioned in your rules file | 12:14 |
| LaserJock | yes, mdke removed it | 12:15 |
| LaserJock | in between | 12:15 |
| Riddell | why? | 12:17 |
| LaserJock | the adept guide was removed from the repo because it is out of date. jjese said to take it out | 12:18 |
| Riddell | ok | 12:19 |
| marseillai | waouhhhh! :) with amarok not working my computer seems so ...... rapid, light ...... a real pleasure! :D | 12:19 |
| Riddell | marseillai: rm -r ~/.kde/share/config/amarok ~/.kde/share/apps/amarok to fix it | 12:20 |
| marseillai | lest go .... | 12:21 |
| marseillai | perhaps with mv .... ;) | 12:21 |
| marseillai | it doesn't work Riddell! | 12:23 |
| marseillai | always the same bug | 12:24 |
| Riddell | kbuildsycoca: Disk full? do you have a full disk? | 12:26 |
| Riddell | otherwise it'll be bad permissions on /var/tmp/kdecache-cyril/ | 12:26 |
| marseillai | i've no any full disk | 12:28 |
| marseillai | i'll take a look a /var/tmp/kdecache-cyril/ | 12:28 |
| marseillai | 4 drwx------ 9 cyril cyril 4096 2006-04-09 00:27 kdecache-cyril | 12:28 |
| Riddell | and /var/tmp/kdecache-cyril/ksycoca ? | 12:29 |
| marseillai | idem with no excution | 12:30 |
| marseillai | 1148 -rw-r--r-- 1 cyril cyril 1169305 2006-04-08 17:23 ksycoca | 12:30 |
| Riddell | LaserJock: new kubuntu-docs uploaded | 12:30 |
| LaserJock | Riddell: great | 12:30 |
| Riddell | marseillai: run kbuildsycoca on the command line | 12:30 |
| marseillai | same error .... | 12:31 |
| LaserJock | Riddell: Kubuntu looks beautiful, btw. I installed kubuntu-desktop to test the package | 12:31 |
| marseillai | QFile::at: Cannot set file position 2878 | 12:31 |
| marseillai | kbuildsycoca: ERROR writing database '/var/tmp/kdecache-cyril/ksycoca'! | 12:31 |
| marseillai | kbuildsycoca: Disk full? | 12:31 |
| Riddell | LaserJock: :) | 12:33 |
| crimsun | LaserJock: I can never tell if I'm getting the default theme, since all my users have different environments used | 12:33 |
| Riddell | LaserJock: now... how do I commit to that svn archive again? | 12:33 |
| LaserJock | Riddell: to the doc team svn? | 12:33 |
| Riddell | LaserJock: yes | 12:34 |
| LaserJock | Riddell: do you have commit access? sorry if that is a stupid question | 12:34 |
| Riddell | LaserJock: I do, I've just completely forgotten how to use it | 12:35 |
| LaserJock | svn commit | 12:35 |
| Riddell | wiki page says its a https:// URL, is that right? | 12:35 |
| LaserJock | ah, just a sec | 12:35 |
| LaserJock | yeah, that's right. svn checkout https://docteam.ubuntu.com/repos/trunk ubuntu-doc | 12:36 |
| Riddell | hmm, so it's a username and password I'm after? | 12:37 |
| LaserJock | yeah, you have to give svn a username and password the first time | 12:38 |
| Riddell | hmm, well I've no idea what that would be | 12:39 |
| Riddell | who can find out my username? | 12:39 |
| LaserJock | elmo | 12:39 |
| Riddell | hum | 12:39 |
| Riddell | could you commit this in the mean time? http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/docs.diff | 12:40 |
| Riddell | to kubuntu/debian | 12:40 |
| LaserJock | sure can | 12:41 |
| Riddell | docs team needs to convert to bzr | 12:41 |
| LaserJock | yeah, there was some discussion about that a while ago | 12:41 |
| LaserJock | I think maybe after Dapper it might come up again | 12:41 |
| LaserJock | it would be easier if the doc team controlled the access anyway. elmo was supposed to work on that but I don't think it got anywere yet. | 12:42 |
| Riddell | then we can just use ssh accounts on a virtual server | 12:42 |
| LaserJock | Riddell: done | 12:44 |
| Riddell | thanks | 12:46 |
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| Hobbsee | Riddell: ping | 01:32 |
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| marseillai_ | Riddell: could you keep me aware when the amarok-bug is corrected ? | 01:55 |
| Hobbsee | marseillai_: i'll do it | 01:55 |
| marseillai_ | thanks | 01:55 |
| Hobbsee | as in, keep you aware, not fix it | 01:55 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell will probably forget :P | 01:55 |
| marseillai_ | lol | 01:55 |
| marseillai_ | oki | 01:55 |
| marseillai_ | thanks | 01:55 |
| marseillai_ | Hobbsee: r u a motu or dev ? | 01:56 |
| === Hobbsee doesnt code...much...yet.... | ||
| === Hobbsee is learning! | ||
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| marseillai_ | do you know siretart ? he is always telling "RTFM" or is it a special treatment for me ? | 01:56 |
| Hobbsee | marseillai_: i do bits of packaging - upgrades, some stuff with old bug reports, etc | 01:57 |
| === Hobbsee spoke to siretart yesterday, actually | ||
| Hobbsee | marseillai_: he's very busy - and often the manuals are very good for explaining the bits needed | 01:57 |
| marseillai_ | oki! so it's a special and reserve treatment forme! :) | 01:57 |
| Hobbsee | it's far better to come and say - this is hte problem, i've tried this, that, and the other, and this is the pastebin that i've gotten, and blah blah blah | 01:57 |
| Hobbsee | marseillai_: we're in luck here, because Riddell and raphink are very nice devs, who dont bite heads off :) | 01:58 |
| marseillai_ | Hobbsee: but it's what i've done the first time! he told me rtfm! i worked on it during one month! and afterall it was really a bug! | 01:58 |
| Hobbsee | true | 01:58 |
| marseillai_ | so the second time he told me rtfm (yesterday) iwas a little hangry | 01:59 |
| Hobbsee | what did he tell you that over? | 01:59 |
| marseillai_ | that he prefer keep my bug on another package even if several devs told it's a wpa bug ..... and he told me that i've to rtfm to make something i'm trying to do since one month! | 02:02 |
| Hobbsee | ouch | 02:05 |
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| Hobbsee | marseillai_: hehe - got rid of some dreaded bugs... | 02:38 |
| Hobbsee | then saw the long list of kdebase ones, and gave up! | 02:38 |
| marseillai_ | Hobbsee: could you reformulate your sentences | 02:39 |
| marseillai_ | i'm french | 02:39 |
| marseillai_ | and i've some difficulties with english | 02:39 |
| Hobbsee | i was looking on launchpad, closed some bugs, then i looked at the bugs in kdebase - and gave up. :P | 02:39 |
| Hobbsee | yes, i could see you dont have english as a first language, sorry... | 02:40 |
| marseillai_ | wich one ? | 02:40 |
| Hobbsee | all of them | 02:40 |
| marseillai_ | Hobbsee: my english is so bad ? | 02:40 |
| marseillai_ | :s | 02:40 |
| Hobbsee | marseillai_: no, it's fairly good - just some phrases that are the wrong way around, for example | 02:40 |
| Hobbsee | eg "i'm trying to do since one month" should be "i've been trying to do for the last month" | 02:41 |
| Hobbsee | that's the one i noticed | 02:41 |
| marseillai_ | oki! i've some diffculties with "for" "since" "during" .... | 02:42 |
| Hobbsee | ah ok :) | 02:42 |
| marseillai_ | i've reported only one bug with kde and it's not on launchpad | 02:43 |
| marseillai_ | i prefer report kde bug on kde bugzilla | 02:43 |
| marseillai_ | I think it's more usefull | 02:43 |
| marseillai_ | even if i'm not really sure it's a kde or ubuntu bug | 02:43 |
| Hobbsee | true | 02:44 |
| Hobbsee | it's possible to mark a bug as upstream, from lauchpad | 02:44 |
| marseillai_ | yes but kde bugzilla is evil!!!!! too hard to use | 02:44 |
| Hobbsee | i've written bugs on both bugs.kde.org, and launchpad | 02:44 |
| Hobbsee | hehe! | 02:44 |
| Hobbsee | so's the normal bugzilla! | 02:44 |
| marseillai_ | yes | 02:45 |
| marseillai_ | wpa_supplicant bugzilla is evil master | 02:45 |
| Hobbsee | apparently people are working on it | 02:45 |
| marseillai_ | :D | 02:45 |
| Hobbsee | huh? | 02:45 |
| marseillai_ | they should think to use launchpad ..... | 02:45 |
| Hobbsee | yay!!! | 02:47 |
| Hobbsee | marseillai_: amarok beta3 packages are on kubuntu.org | 02:47 |
| === marseillai_ come back on xchat! dapper's konvi is much better than breezy's one but some features are still missing for me | ||
| Hobbsee | hehe | 02:47 |
| marseillai_ | Hobbsee: DON T TRY THEM .... | 02:47 |
| Hobbsee | why not? | 02:47 |
| marseillai_ | because ridd ell ask for testers yesterday | 02:47 |
| marseillai_ | and they don't work | 02:47 |
| marseillai_ | amarok don't launch | 02:48 |
| marseillai_ | it resolve the problem with libqt3-mysql | 02:48 |
| marseillai_ | but amarok crashes | 02:48 |
| Hobbsee | ahhh...ok | 02:48 |
| danimo | marseillai_: known problem | 02:48 |
| Hobbsee | that would be why the amarok-latest wasnt upgraded | 02:48 |
| marseillai_ | it's that i'm waiting | 02:48 |
| danimo | marseillai_: Riddell said he was going to do something about it with the release of beta3 today | 02:49 |
| marseillai_ | danimo: yes i know! i'm waiting for fixes to upgrade | 02:49 |
| Hobbsee | pity... | 02:49 |
| marseillai_ | danimo: yes i know i was trying to help him on this yesterday | 02:49 |
| === Hobbsee is used to running svn amarok | ||
| danimo | marseillai_: it was even worse for me | 02:49 |
| danimo | I did an adept upgrade and suddenly amarok was gone | 02:49 |
| danimo | upps | 02:49 |
| marseillai_ | lol | 02:49 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 02:50 |
| marseillai_ | you have not change your depot to beta3 packages ? | 02:50 |
| marseillai_ | :| | 02:50 |
| danimo | marseillai_: where are they? | 02:50 |
| Hobbsee | danimo: http://kubuntu.org/packages/ | 02:50 |
| Hobbsee | you can use the symlinked amarok-latest | 02:50 |
| marseillai_ | arf! do not know the english translation for my prefer answer to this sort of question .... | 02:51 |
| marseillai_ | Hobbsee: beta packages are not in latest link! they are ? | 02:51 |
| Hobbsee | are they? you mean, yes, they are | 02:51 |
| marseillai_ | :| uh yes they are! | 02:51 |
| Hobbsee | marseillai_: see http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-latest/pool-dapper/ | 02:52 |
| Hobbsee | :P | 02:52 |
| marseillai_ | just see | 02:52 |
| danimo | The following packages have unmet dependencies: | 02:52 |
| danimo | amarok: Depends: libmysqlclient15 (>= 5.0.15-1) but it is not going to be installed | 02:52 |
| Hobbsee | danimo: that for beta3? | 02:52 |
| danimo | there are two libmysqlclient15 versions | 02:52 |
| Hobbsee | or beta2? | 02:52 |
| marseillai_ | danimo: ;) normal! libmysqlclient15 have change is name! | 02:52 |
| danimo | I just switched to latest | 02:53 |
| marseillai_ | so beta2 | 02:53 |
| Hobbsee | yeah. they know. they're working on it | 02:53 |
| marseillai_ | it will be repair with beta3 | 02:53 |
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| Hobbsee | i had a bug number, but i've forgotten it | 02:53 |
| Hobbsee | hi OdyX | 02:53 |
| marseillai_ | lu OdyX! la forme? | 02:53 |
| marseillai_ | Hobbsee: 38701! it's mine! :) | 02:54 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 02:54 |
| danimo | ah, ok, latest != beta3 | 02:54 |
| danimo | mean :) | 02:54 |
| === Hobbsee has seen too many bug reports today to remember the numbers | ||
| marseillai_ | danimo: yes! latest = latest with a few test and wich is know to work | 02:54 |
| Hobbsee | danimo: correct | 02:54 |
| marseillai_ | know or known ? | 02:55 |
| Hobbsee | marseillai_: known | 02:55 |
| marseillai_ | oki | 02:55 |
| Hobbsee | :) | 02:55 |
| marseillai_ | konvi test : | 02:55 |
| === marseillai_ is listening to "Manomenos" by Kaophonic Tribu on Nysa Sphre 7 [Kaffeine] | ||
| Hobbsee | Uptime: 2 hours and minutes | 02:56 |
| Hobbsee | works | 02:56 |
| marseillai_ | Uptime: 21 hours and 33 minutes | 02:56 |
| Hobbsee | heh | 02:56 |
| === marseillai_ didn't know | ||
| marseillai_ | :) | 02:56 |
| === Hobbsee turns her laptop off when she's not here | ||
| marseillai_ | konvi is pretty good! but geek's features are missing! :s | 02:56 |
| Hobbsee | hehe true | 02:58 |
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| marseillai | feel much better with xchat! | 03:01 |
| danimo | marseillai: what features in particular? | 03:01 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 03:01 |
| marseillai | command completion! my own, complex command.... | 03:01 |
| danimo | geeks... ;) | 03:02 |
| Hobbsee | danimo: of course. | 03:02 |
| OdyX | hey marseillai... :D | 03:02 |
| Hobbsee | marseillai: konversation has aliases | 03:03 |
| marseillai | danimo: command completion, better chan identify (work everywhere with xchat not with konvi), and almost : the aibility to create complex command for example i have alias for ( /nick marseillai && /ns identify my_pass ) and it's so hard to do with konvi! and many others alias like them! and there are many scripts usefull for ircop with xchat! | 03:03 |
| danimo | identify works with freenode. that's enough :) | 03:03 |
| marseillai | Hobbsee: not this sort of aliases! i've to use dcop and many complicate things | 03:04 |
| marseillai | danimo: nop! it's not for me! :s | 03:04 |
| Hobbsee | marseillai: you should be able to set that in the server list - there's a username and password field, which will auto-identify you | 03:04 |
| Hobbsee | but I see your point | 03:04 |
| marseillai | Hobbsee: it works on freenode yes! but no on another server i use | 03:05 |
| Hobbsee | oh ok | 03:05 |
| marseillai | so! it's not bad! konvi is so good! but xchat is more pretty good FOR ME! | 03:05 |
| danimo | are you sure that whatever shows up as beta3 is actually beta3? | 03:07 |
| Hobbsee | danimo: yeah, lintian screams loudly if you name the packages wrong. | 03:08 |
| Hobbsee | why do you ask? | 03:08 |
| danimo | Hobbsee: because features that should be there are not | 03:08 |
| danimo | like proper handling of podcast names | 03:08 |
| marseillai | danimo: ! | 03:09 |
| Tm_T | Riddell: I thought you might be interested: "Kopete 0.12 will be released around the 1st of May." | 03:09 |
| marseillai | you should not have beta3 ...... | 03:09 |
| marseillai | it doesn't work..... | 03:09 |
| Hobbsee | Tm_T: yay! that's way after UVF though... | 03:09 |
| Tm_T | Hobbsee: indeed | 03:09 |
| danimo | last changelog entry from april 6th | 03:09 |
| Tm_T | Hobbsee: but it would bring much improvenments, including reliability and filetransfer fixes | 03:10 |
| Hobbsee | better be ready to write a main inclusion statement, if it's needed :P | 03:10 |
| Tm_T | =) | 03:10 |
| === Tm_T is ready like a soldier | ||
| Tm_T | o7 | 03:10 |
| Tm_T | Hobbsee: also, looks like Kopete 0.12, adiumx, and incoming google talk will the very same chat styles | 03:15 |
| Tm_T | will use | 03:15 |
| Hobbsee | nice! | 03:16 |
| Tm_T | indeed | 03:16 |
| === Hobbsee sees that she should be on the -motu mailing list | ||
| Tm_T | =) | 03:16 |
| danimo | ok, whatever is claimed to be beta3 is in fact at best beta1 | 03:16 |
| === Tm_T uses amaroK from svn | ||
| Tm_T | actually I just compiled newest changes, restarting it ;) | 03:17 |
| Hobbsee | no wonder i keep missing everything! | 03:17 |
| Tm_T | Hobbsee: =) | 03:17 |
| Tm_T | Hobbsee: not missing everything, I'm right here ;) | 03:18 |
| Hobbsee | heeh | 03:18 |
| === Tm_T hides | ||
| Tm_T | please don't hit me | 03:18 |
| Tm_T | ...somehow I feel people doesn't understand my sense of humour | 03:18 |
| Tm_T | it's more twisted than it seems | 03:19 |
| marseillai | danimo: from wich depot did you upgrade amarok ? | 03:19 |
| Hobbsee | i wasnt about it | 03:19 |
| Hobbsee | *to | 03:19 |
| === Hobbsee has a headache, and is trying to manhandle launchpad | ||
| Hobbsee | enough said, really, hehe | 03:20 |
| Tm_T | =) | 03:20 |
| Lathiat | hrm, has anyone else noticed that you cant alt+Drag windows in dapper to move em? | 03:21 |
| Lathiat | worked all the time in breezy, doesnt work most of the time in dapper | 03:21 |
| Lathiat | and i cant seem to find an option fo rit | 03:21 |
| danimo | marseillai: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-beta3 dapper main | 03:21 |
| marseillai | and it works ? | 03:22 |
| marseillai | ahum ..... | 03:22 |
| danimo | ? | 03:22 |
| === marseillai will try again | ||
| Hobbsee | Lathiat: doesnt happen on my system | 03:22 |
| freeflying | danimo: it's amarok-1.4-beta3? | 03:22 |
| danimo | freeflying: it _should_ be | 03:22 |
| Lathiat | hrm | 03:23 |
| Lathiat | should try blowing away my homedir then | 03:23 |
| Lathiat | Hobbsee: does it work on a terminal? | 03:23 |
| Hobbsee | Lathiat: the alt drag? | 03:23 |
| === Lathiat boggle | ||
| Lathiat | sit just standard working | 03:24 |
| Lathiat | after i change the allow movement of maximimzed window soption | 03:24 |
| Lathiat | which is a bit odd | 03:24 |
| Hobbsee | yeah, works here, i dont think i changed anything | 03:24 |
| Lathiat | hrm actually it seems to depend how long i wait before holding alt | 03:24 |
| Lathiat | i need a noticable delay | 03:24 |
| === Hobbsee shrugs | ||
| === Hobbsee doesnt know :P | ||
| Lathiat | hrm | 03:24 |
| Lathiat | i used to just hit alt hit the mouse button and drag | 03:24 |
| Lathiat | interesting | 03:24 |
| danimo | oh, nevermind | 03:25 |
| danimo | something went terribly wrong with apt | 03:25 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 03:25 |
| Hobbsee | you could try uninstalling it...someone wanted to yesterday... | 03:26 |
| Hobbsee | no, wait...that was wanting to uninstall dpkg | 03:26 |
| danimo | someone just renamed the directory to amarok14-beta3 | 03:27 |
| === Sime|AFK is now known as _Sime | ||
| _Sime | danimo: hey | 03:28 |
| danimo | _Sime: heya. time for some bad mood? | 03:28 |
| danimo | :=) | 03:28 |
| _Sime | oh | 03:28 |
| Hobbsee | hi _Sime | 03:29 |
| _Sime | danimo: do you have bad news? | 03:29 |
| _Sime | Hobbsee: hi, are you in .au? | 03:29 |
| danimo | _Sime: yes, it fail for me completely | 03:29 |
| danimo | fails even | 03:29 |
| danimo | _Sime: describing the problem takes a while | 03:29 |
| danimo | let me just get amarok 1.4 beta 3 installed | 03:29 |
| _Sime | danimo: is this an python exception prob? | 03:30 |
| marseillai | danimo: i see amarok as real beta 3 ..... | 03:30 |
| danimo | no | 03:30 |
| Hobbsee | _Sime: yep | 03:30 |
| danimo | marseillai: yes, me too now | 03:30 |
| Hobbsee | sydney | 03:30 |
| danimo | marseillai: what's wrong with "deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok14-beta3 dapper main"? | 03:30 |
| _Sime | Hobbsee: ok, I studied in melbourne | 03:30 |
| Hobbsee | fun :0 | 03:31 |
| Hobbsee | danimo: nothing at all - except that the packages in that repo apparently crash on start | 03:31 |
| marseillai | Hobbsee: now it works | 03:31 |
| marseillai | had to remove config files | 03:31 |
| Hobbsee | marseillai: yay! (which was this again?) | 03:32 |
| marseillai | /share/config and apps | 03:32 |
| danimo | outch :) | 03:32 |
| danimo | nevermind :) | 03:32 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 03:32 |
| danimo | I cannot type | 03:32 |
| Hobbsee | yeah, neither - it's kinda cold here | 03:32 |
| danimo | .au is not the warmest place to stay around this time is it? | 03:32 |
| Hobbsee | and i'm being blasted in #kubuntu, with people saying "the current theme is terrible" - yeah, tell me somethign i dont know!!! | 03:32 |
| Hobbsee | no, not really...... | 03:33 |
| danimo | Hobbsee: yeah, the current theme has ... room for improvement | 03:33 |
| Hobbsee | LOL! | 03:33 |
| Hobbsee | yes | 03:33 |
| Hobbsee | unfortunately, the guy in charge of it hasnt done that much with it recently, and isnt here this minute | 03:33 |
| danimo | Hobbsee: kwwii? | 03:33 |
| Tm_T | Hobbsee: kwwii? | 03:34 |
| Hobbsee | yeah | 03:34 |
| Tm_T | haha | 03:34 |
| Tm_T | have to push him | 03:34 |
| === danimo 's gonna kick him | ||
| === Hobbsee would take it over, and find something nice, but doesnt have a graphics program | ||
| Tm_T | already promised to kill his son yesterday | 03:34 |
| danimo | Tm_T: he or you? :) | 03:34 |
| === Hobbsee contemplates finding one, and askign for responsibility over it anyway | ||
| === marseillai like the new theme ................... | ||
| Tm_T | I | 03:34 |
| danimo | at least the dragon is gone from the wallaper | 03:34 |
| Hobbsee | marseillai: yeah, there are some nice bits - but it can get better! | 03:35 |
| marseillai | lol | 03:35 |
| danimo | but the fact that you get 3-4 different wallapers from kdm to desktop is ugly | 03:35 |
| marseillai | i like this dragon painting the desktop in orange | 03:35 |
| Tm_T | danimo: hey, I wanna see the dragon wallpaper! | 03:35 |
| marseillai | :d | 03:35 |
| Hobbsee | Tm_T: see kubuntu.org | 03:35 |
| danimo | Tm_T: hmm? | 03:35 |
| Tm_T | Hobbsee: that one?... I now understand | 03:36 |
| Hobbsee | i assume so, yes | 03:36 |
| Hobbsee | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuDapperArtworkTodo | 03:36 |
| Hobbsee | that's the working page of kwwi's stuff, i think | 03:36 |
| Hobbsee | *kwwii | 03:37 |
| danimo | marseillai: I'm up to the point where it crashes now, yay :) | 03:38 |
| Hobbsee | danimo: hehe! | 03:38 |
| marseillai | danimo: amarok crashes on your machine ? | 03:39 |
| Hobbsee | hmmm...7 weeks... | 03:39 |
| Hobbsee | wonder when artwork freeze is, as this stuff needs to be done before that | 03:39 |
| danimo | marseillai: absofuckinlutely! | 03:39 |
| marseillai | danimo: rm your config files | 03:39 |
| danimo | marseillai: no help | 03:40 |
| marseillai | Riddell: now after a remove, reinstall and remove config files amarok beta3 works fine ..... | 03:40 |
| marseillai | danimo: dpkg -r then apt-get install rm config file and it should works | 03:40 |
| Hobbsee | Tm_T: any idea when artwork freeze is? doestn seem to be on dapper release schedule... | 03:41 |
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| danimo | marseillai: it's podcast stuff that crashes | 03:41 |
| === marseillai don't understand anything in dapper release schedule since the mark's delay | ||
| freeflying | anyone know tonio's repo's url | 03:42 |
| marseillai | yes i know it | 03:42 |
| marseillai | why ? | 03:42 |
| freeflying | Hobbsee: do you know ? | 03:42 |
| marseillai | freeflying: why this question | 03:43 |
| marseillai | freeflying: you can trust this repository | 03:43 |
| freeflying | marseillai: need some package from his repo | 03:43 |
| marseillai | tonio make many packages for kubuntu as Knetworkmanager and many else | 03:43 |
| marseillai | ah! amarok 1.4beta3 bug ........ where is the bugzilla? | 03:44 |
| danimo | marseillai: works now | 03:45 |
| Hobbsee | freeflying: what? yes, i do | 03:45 |
| Hobbsee | #Kubuntu networkmanager packages | 03:45 |
| Hobbsee | deb http://kubuntu.no-ip.org/kubuntu dapper main | 03:45 |
| Hobbsee | deb-src http://kubuntu.no-ip.org/kubuntu dapper main | 03:45 |
| freeflying | Hobbsee: tonio's repo | 03:45 |
| Hobbsee | gotcha ;P | 03:45 |
| freeflying | Hobbsee: thx | 03:45 |
| Hobbsee | careful, some stuff in it breaks from time to time | 03:46 |
| === Hobbsee uses it though, for better or for worse | ||
| freeflying | Hobbsee: I see | 03:46 |
| Tm_T | Hobbsee: no idea | 03:46 |
| Hobbsee | marseillai: upstream, or packaging bug? | 03:46 |
| Hobbsee | Tm_T: darn | 03:46 |
| marseillai | danimo: could you verify a bug with me please before i report ? | 03:46 |
| marseillai | upstream Hobbsee | 03:46 |
| danimo | marseillai: sure | 03:46 |
| Hobbsee | marseillai: bugs.kde.org | 03:47 |
| marseillai | danimo: when you keep the mouse on amarok systray icone does the popup menu appears in his right place or on the top of the screen N | 03:47 |
| marseillai | Hobbsee: verify the bug and if it is i report | 03:47 |
| Hobbsee | appears in the right place, with beta2 | 03:48 |
| danimo | marseillai: hmm? | 03:48 |
| marseillai | arf | 03:48 |
| marseillai | Hobbsee: cold you explain in better english i can't do better! :s | 03:48 |
| danimo | marseillai: everything seems to be in the right place | 03:48 |
| marseillai | could | 03:48 |
| marseillai | arf | 03:48 |
| marseillai | so it's my bug | 03:48 |
| Hobbsee | marseillai: what danimo said. using beta2 packages. | 03:49 |
| marseillai | danimo: the yellow window just appear on your mouse ? | 03:49 |
| Hobbsee | as in, amarok 1.4 beta2 packages | 03:49 |
| danimo | marseillai: yepp | 03:49 |
| danimo | marseillai: amarok - rediscover your music! | 03:49 |
| marseillai | arf! | 03:50 |
| Hobbsee | Tm_T: i've just discovered a goldmine of kubuntu images... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuArtwork | 03:50 |
| === _Sime wonders why CDs don't automount... annoying. | ||
| Tm_T | Hobbsee: yeah | 03:51 |
| Hobbsee | Tm_T: i think we should stick that somewhere in the next meeting - everyone look, and pick which one would be best. | 03:52 |
| Hobbsee | if kwwii doesnt come up with something mindblowing in the meantime | 03:52 |
| Tm_T | maybe | 03:53 |
| Hobbsee | oh well | 03:54 |
| === Hobbsee considers falling asleep on the keyboard | ||
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| danimo | argl | 04:06 |
| danimo | who created that ubuntu theme for amarok? | 04:06 |
| danimo | it's totally unreadable :( | 04:06 |
| Hobbsee | hi allee | 04:06 |
| allee | Ho, ho Hobbsee | 04:06 |
| === Hobbsee 's brain is fried | ||
| allee | Hobbsee: oh, why? | 04:06 |
| Hobbsee | tired, and getting whined at about the current theme in dapper... | 04:06 |
| marseillai | danimo: it's the first thing i changed! ;) | 04:06 |
| Tm_T | =) | 04:07 |
| === Tm_T doesn't use defaults | ||
| Tm_T | so I have no idea what defaults looks like | 04:07 |
| allee | Hobbsee: yeah, theme is not optimal | 04:07 |
| Tm_T | http://www.tm-travolta.net/shots/current.png | 04:07 |
| Hobbsee | hehe! | 04:07 |
| Tm_T | nooooo | 04:08 |
| Tm_T | oh well | 04:08 |
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| Hobbsee | darn it! | 04:09 |
| Hobbsee | hit close on the wrong window | 04:09 |
| marseillai | Tm_T: you have MANY unread article in akregartor! go and read! | 04:09 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 04:09 |
| Hobbsee | nah, just right click, force all read | 04:09 |
| Hobbsee | or whatever it is | 04:09 |
| marseillai | lol | 04:09 |
| danimo | marseillai: same here. but if it is so terrible, we should pull it from the package | 04:13 |
| allee | Hobbsee: Ctrl-R :) | 04:15 |
| Tm_T | marseillai: no, it's Kmail, not aKregator | 04:15 |
| Hobbsee | that too | 04:15 |
| marseillai | worse Tm_T | 04:15 |
| Tm_T | marseillai: well, that's just what I get in one day | 04:15 |
| marseillai | http://linux.blogweb.de/archives/181-Helping-AMU.html ----->> agree with the idea but not with the way to do ....... | 04:16 |
| Lathiat | also, anyoen noticed konqueror getting a little worse at rendering webpages lately | 04:21 |
| Lathiat | ? | 04:21 |
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| Hobbsee | marseillai: very true. it looks rather like a ransom note | 04:27 |
| marseillai | yep | 04:28 |
| Hobbsee | ...and people/companies tend not to bow to ransom notes | 04:28 |
| marseillai | i understand the demand! but not the way to demand | 04:28 |
| Hobbsee | marseillai: see your private messages... | 04:28 |
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| === Hobbsee really goes to sleep now! | ||
| Hobbsee | night all... | 04:39 |
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| seaLne | i think the problem is that some people are still trying to get their heads round the fact that canonical is making money out of the work they do for free | 07:06 |
| danimo | hmm, pity, amarok 1.4 is build without excalibar support on dapper | 07:11 |
| seaLne | danimo: what is needed for it? | 07:18 |
| apachelogger | exscalibar | 07:19 |
| apachelogger | impossbile to build a package though | 07:19 |
| apachelogger | I'm now on it for about 4 weeks | 07:20 |
| apachelogger | it's still not working | 07:20 |
| Tm_T | =) | 07:20 |
| Tm_T | danimo: you can always compile amaroK yourself | 07:20 |
| seaLne | ah | 07:20 |
| apachelogger | yups | 07:20 |
| apachelogger | and exscalibar | 07:20 |
| apachelogger | since the only somewhat package is a gentoo ebuild | 07:21 |
| apachelogger | no rpm for any distro and no deb .. nothing | 07:21 |
| apachelogger | exscalibar is packagers hell :< | 07:21 |
| seaLne | yeah even the website is hard to get working :) | 07:23 |
| apachelogger | ;-) | 07:24 |
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| jpatrick | evening | 07:35 |
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| danimo | _Sime: ping? | 08:15 |
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| jpatrick | hi Lure | 08:43 |
| Lure | ki jpatrick | 08:43 |
| Lure | s/ki/hi/ | 08:43 |
| Lure | ;-) | 08:43 |
| jpatrick | :) | 08:44 |
| jpatrick | what's going on? | 08:45 |
| Lure | not much - just looking new powersave to understand what is fixed... | 08:46 |
| === Lure is tired after sailing today | ||
| jpatrick | wow, sailing... | 08:46 |
| jpatrick | I'm just watching kerry's, kmplayer's and kcontrol-kdmtheme's build process | 08:47 |
| Lure | jpatrick: just seen new kerry being downloaded - did we now address hotkey issue (katapult/kerry/yakuake)? | 08:49 |
| jpatrick | Lure: I did that ages ago | 08:50 |
| Lure | I have seen F12 is now used, but that was also default for yakuake.... | 08:51 |
| jpatrick | arg... | 08:51 |
| Riddell | seaLne: canonical is making money? | 08:51 |
| jpatrick | hope not | 08:51 |
| jpatrick | that's illegal | 08:51 |
| Riddell | danimo: what's excalibar support? | 08:51 |
| jpatrick | Lure: right, I'll change it to F13 (if that's ok) | 08:52 |
| Lure | I would preffer something around Space... As Ctrl+Alt+Space is searching for selection already | 08:53 |
| Lure | Win+Space would be nice, but it is not avail on other platforms (like PPC)... | 08:53 |
| === jpatrick looks for some good key combo | ||
| danimo | Riddell: a lib needed for moodbar http://rokymotion.pwsp.net/promowiki/images/c/c4/Moodbar-1.4-dangle.png | 08:57 |
| jpatrick | Riddell: the meaning of eye-candy | 08:58 |
| jpatrick | shows the mood of your music | 08:58 |
| Riddell | riiight | 08:59 |
| jpatrick | I was going to package it at some point | 09:00 |
| Tm_T | jpatrick: apachelogger is doing it already | 09:01 |
| Tm_T | jpatrick: or trying to | 09:01 |
| jpatrick | Tm_T: :) | 09:01 |
| Tm_T | jpatrick: but he said it's impossible | 09:01 |
| jpatrick | Lure: Ctrl-Shift-Space ? | 09:02 |
| Tm_T | jpatrick: also, I couldn't make that moodbar work here | 09:02 |
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| Tm_T | jpatrick: got only empty lines | 09:02 |
| Lure | jpatrick: better then Fxx | 09:02 |
| Riddell | hi Bluekuja | 09:02 |
| Bluekuja | hi :) | 09:03 |
| Tm_T | Bluekuja: ciao tutti! | 09:03 |
| Tm_T | jpatrick: ;) | 09:03 |
| Bluekuja | hehe ciao | 09:03 |
| jpatrick | Tm_T: how annoying | 09:03 |
| Bluekuja | nice to meet you all | 09:03 |
| Tm_T | jpatrick: no shit =) | 09:03 |
| Bluekuja | my name is andrea | 09:04 |
| Bluekuja | ^^ | 09:04 |
| Riddell | Bluekuja here is our new elite kubuntu italian dude | 09:04 |
| Riddell | http://exscalibar.sourceforge.net/ hmm, not a good sign | 09:04 |
| Bluekuja | ok perfect | 09:05 |
| jpatrick | Riddell: ouch | 09:05 |
| Bluekuja | error from that page | 09:06 |
| Bluekuja | guys where all of you come from? | 09:06 |
| Riddell | Scotland! | 09:07 |
| Bluekuja | nice place | 09:07 |
| Riddell | http://kent.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/exscalibar/exscalibar-1.0.4.tar.bz2 | 09:07 |
| Riddell | hmm, qmake | 09:07 |
| jpatrick | is it KShortcut(CTRL+SHIFT+Key_F12); ? | 09:07 |
| Tm_T | Bluekuja: Eastern Finland | 09:08 |
| Bluekuja | o | 09:08 |
| Bluekuja | cold zone hehe | 09:09 |
| === Lure is from Slovenia | ||
| === jpatrick is from London, UK (right now in Spain) | ||
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| Bluekuja | ok perfect im from udine | 09:10 |
| Tonio_ | hey ;) | 09:10 |
| Bluekuja | eastern area of italy | 09:10 |
| Lure | Tonio_: hi | 09:10 |
| Tm_T | Bluekuja: cold? never | 09:10 |
| Lure | Bluekuja: very near then.... | 09:10 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: news about the vpn component of networkmanager ? | 09:11 |
| Lure | Tonio_: not really - just that danimo want it too ;-) | 09:11 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: hehe | 09:11 |
| Tonio_ | I may have a look on revu about that | 09:11 |
| Bluekuja | yeah lure | 09:12 |
| Bluekuja | we're near | 09:12 |
| Bluekuja | which city? | 09:12 |
| Bluekuja | of slovenia? | 09:12 |
| Lure | Bluekuja: I am from Ljubljana, but I am in Nova Gorica once per week (have half of my team there) | 09:13 |
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| Tonio_ | Riddell: I retested kaffeine 0.8 and I think we should have a look at it for dapper.... the video part (except the konq component) is really much better | 09:13 |
| Bluekuja | nice | 09:13 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: also there is now a really missing feature : a control bar in fullscreen mode... I've been waiting for this for month :) | 09:13 |
| Lure | Tonio_: isn;t there 0.8.1 already? | 09:13 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: yes I was talking about this one ;) | 09:14 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: is it in dapper already ? I don't think so | 09:14 |
| Bluekuja | sometimes i play some basketball matches in gorizia or trieste^^ | 09:14 |
| Lure | Tonio_: no, we are waiting for you... ;-) | 09:14 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: still 0.7.1 | 09:14 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: no need to package it actually ;) fabo is packaging it for debian and maintaining it ;) | 09:15 |
| Tonio_ | We just need to ping him | 09:15 |
| Lure | Tonio_: do you plan to update k-d-s soon - I have one minor stuff to include (1920x1200 wallpapers) | 09:15 |
| === jpatrick still thinks KMPlayer > Kaffeine | ||
| Tonio_ | Lure: I'm not the official maintainer :) | 09:15 |
| Tm_T | KMPlayer rocks | 09:15 |
| Tonio_ | jpatrick: not as a standalone player | 09:15 |
| Tm_T | Tonio_: what's wrong | 09:15 |
| Tonio_ | kmplayer misses lots of features compared to kaffeine on that point | 09:15 |
| jpatrick | how? | 09:16 |
| Tonio_ | Tm_T: subtitles management | 09:16 |
| jpatrick | what about it? | 09:16 |
| Tm_T | Tonio_: subtitles management? | 09:16 |
| Tonio_ | doesn't read correctly ogm files, and I had problems with matroska too | 09:16 |
| Tm_T | interesting | 09:16 |
| Tonio_ | Tm_T: it doesn't autoload subtitles for me | 09:16 |
| Tm_T | Tonio_: what subtitles | 09:16 |
| Tonio_ | Tm_T: avi subtitles ;) | 09:17 |
| Tonio_ | srt files for example | 09:17 |
| Tm_T | Tonio_: ever seen separate subtitles else but to warez stuff | 09:17 |
| Tonio_ | Tm_T: subtitles isn't warez stuff.... | 09:18 |
| Tonio_ | Tm_T: It happens to me to rip a dvd but keeping chapters and subtitles | 09:18 |
| Tonio_ | what's wrong with this ? | 09:18 |
| Tm_T | nothing | 09:18 |
| Tonio_ | nice ;) | 09:18 |
| Tm_T | Tonio_: what I said is _I_ have ever seen subtitles to anything else but warezmovies | 09:18 |
| Tm_T | and no, not in my pc | 09:19 |
| Tonio_ | Tm_T: that's the way they are used most of the time, I agree | 09:19 |
| Tm_T | yup | 09:19 |
| Tonio_ | Tm_T: does kmplayer provide streaming server/client functionnalities ? | 09:20 |
| Tonio_ | I don't think so | 09:20 |
| Tm_T | almost same category than "I use dc++ to share school projects" | 09:20 |
| Tm_T | Tonio_: no idea | 09:20 |
| Tm_T | Tonio_: it's video player | 09:20 |
| Tonio_ | Tm_T: If I had to choose a videoplayer for dapper, I would choose codeine | 09:20 |
| Tonio_ | simple, minimalist, stable, efficient | 09:20 |
| Tonio_ | but in the kaffeine VS kmplayer fight, I really prefer kaffeine for the standalone player | 09:21 |
| Tm_T | Tonio_: KMPlayer is my choice, works, easy, simple enough, and have multiple backends | 09:21 |
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| Tm_T | Tonio_: to me Kaffeine offers nothing special but crashes =) | 09:21 |
| Tonio_ | Tm_T: standalone crashing ? | 09:22 |
| Tm_T | Tonio_: but that's my needs, to many users Kaffeine ofcourse is the choice | 09:22 |
| Tm_T | Tonio_: yup | 09:22 |
| Tm_T | Tonio_: that was long ago, haven't used it since | 09:22 |
| jpatrick | Tonio_: Tm_T++ | 09:22 |
| Tm_T | Tonio_: to Kubuntu, Kaffeine, to me? KMPlayer :) | 09:22 |
| Tm_T | I know I'm not typical user | 09:23 |
| Tm_T | I just watch news and some random video clips | 09:23 |
| Tonio_ | Tm_T: ++ on that point :) | 09:24 |
| Tonio_ | we are geeks, not the standard target of kubuntu | 09:24 |
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| Tm_T | Tonio_: I'm not geek | 09:27 |
| Tm_T | I just happen to develop/modify/use programs a lot ;p | 09:28 |
| Tonio_ | Tm_T: that's my definition of a geek ;) | 09:29 |
| Tonio_ | to me an associal personn that lives for informatics isn't a geek, but a nerd :) | 09:29 |
| Tonio_ | which is different | 09:29 |
| Tonio_ | I consider myself a geek ;) | 09:29 |
| Lure | Tonio_: can you check this debdiff: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/648429 | 09:30 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: shure | 09:31 |
| Tonio_ | sure | 09:31 |
| Lure | this is using new kwwii's image from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperKubuntuLoginScreen | 09:31 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: looks good to me, should work | 09:32 |
| jpatrick | Lure: fixed as of kerry_0.1-0ubuntu2 | 09:32 |
| Lure | Tonio_: it works for me - should I send the k-d-s source to you and can you upload? | 09:33 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: but I think we need to keep background sync between kdm theme and ksplash theme | 09:33 |
| Lure | jpatrick: so Shift-Ctrl-Space? | 09:33 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: I can't upload k-d-s directly ;) it is in main | 09:33 |
| Tonio_ | I'm not still coredev | 09:33 |
| Tonio_ | ^^ | 09:33 |
| jpatrick | Lure: yes | 09:33 |
| Tonio_ | ask Riddell or raphink | 09:33 |
| Lure | Tonio_: ok, didn't know that - since you did lots' of changes to k-d-s I thought it is best to poke you... ;-) | 09:34 |
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| Lure | jpatrick: great! | 09:34 |
| Lure | Tonio_: I have changed it for both kdm and ksplash | 09:35 |
| jpatrick | Lure: just uploaded, wait like an hour | 09:35 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: oups sorry :) I missed it ;) | 09:36 |
| Tonio_ | jpatrick: you uploaded k-d-s ? | 09:36 |
| jpatrick | no kerry | 09:36 |
| Tonio_ | HO kerry ;) | 09:36 |
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| jpatrick | as in -> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/dapper-changes/2006-April/009033.html | 09:37 |
| Tonio_ | jpatrick: are you fine with the cdbs package I built with kerry ? | 09:37 |
| Tonio_ | jpatrick: there were a few bugs on yours (patches not applyed for example) | 09:37 |
| jpatrick | Tonio_: yes, of course, that slipped out of my mind :) | 09:37 |
| Tonio_ | jpatrick: hehe :) | 09:38 |
| Tonio_ | no review for knetworkmanager, wlassistant and kmplayer still...... | 09:38 |
| Tonio_ | need to wait...... | 09:38 |
| jpatrick | kmplayer? | 09:39 |
| Tonio_ | jpatrick: revu for main :) | 09:39 |
| jpatrick | Ah right | 09:39 |
| jpatrick | i uploaded a new version today | 09:39 |
| Tonio_ | just saw that ;) | 09:39 |
| Tonio_ | jpatrick: nice that it can now record using xine | 09:39 |
| Tonio_ | jpatrick: did you set the parameters in kmplayerrc ? | 09:39 |
| jpatrick | Tonio_: yes | 09:40 |
| Tonio_ | jpatrick: great ;) | 09:41 |
| Lure | Tonio_: have you seen that knm is now available in KDE svn? And did you check debian svn for their packaging stuff? | 09:43 |
| seaLne | Riddell: ok, potentially making money :-) | 09:43 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: nope ;) I haven't been available for a few days.... that's a very good news ! | 09:47 |
| Lure | Tonio_: http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/1911 | 09:47 |
| Lure | not much new fixes in yet though... | 09:48 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime: ping ? | 09:48 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: the version we actually have for dapper is really nice ;) no need to update for the moment to me, don't you think ? | 09:48 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: we should ask for beagle package to be split....... | 09:49 |
| Lure | Tonio_: agree - it works if NM works. good thing is that now we can follow the progress and decide | 09:49 |
| Tonio_ | it is stupid to depend on gtklibs for a daemon........ | 09:49 |
| Lure | Tonio_: jpatrick mentioned that he might look into this | 09:49 |
| Riddell | hmm, kubuntu de gone slightly overboard today | 09:49 |
| Tonio_ | hey Riddell :) | 09:50 |
| jpatrick | Riddell: yep | 09:50 |
| Lure | this gtk/mono dep is a bit too much, but kerry just works | 09:50 |
| jpatrick | they think they have problems | 09:50 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: mono is a "real dep", not gtklibs... | 09:50 |
| Lure | Riddell: I do not understand the background of their concerns, but even less I understand their way | 09:51 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: what are you all talking about ? I'm lost ;) what happened ? | 09:51 |
| Lure | Tonio_: http://www.osnews.com/comment.php?news_id=14283 | 09:51 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: thanks | 09:52 |
| jpatrick | Lure: it will be one mess package work | 09:52 |
| jpatrick | messy* | 09:52 |
| Lure | jpatrick: I can imagine - I just briefly looked in OpenSuSE if they have done some split in rpm, but they have it the same as we currently :-( | 09:53 |
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| Tonio_ | Lure: wow... | 09:53 |
| jpatrick | Lure: i'll have it done by tomorrow noon | 09:54 |
| Lure | jpatrick: really? - that is great news! | 09:54 |
| jpatrick | well, by tomorrow | 09:55 |
| jpatrick | rc/geddei/globals.cpp:17:20: error: config.h: No such file or directory | 10:02 |
| jpatrick | src/geddei/globals.cpp:24: error: VERSION was not declared in this scope | 10:02 |
| jpatrick | make: *** [globals.o] Error 1 | 10:02 |
| jpatrick | that's great | 10:02 |
| jpatrick | okay, I'm going with apachelogger - this is impossible | 10:08 |
| _Sime | Tonio_: pong | 10:10 |
| _Sime | Tonio_: ping | 10:10 |
| _Sime | danimo: pong | 10:11 |
| jpatrick | Lure: damn, it's in main | 10:11 |
| Lure | jpatrick: beagle? I do not think so... | 10:12 |
| jpatrick | is | 10:12 |
| jpatrick | Get: 2 http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main beagle 0.2.3-0ubuntu6 (tar) [1684kB] | 10:13 |
| Lure | wow, that is new to me... | 10:13 |
| Lure | recenty included in main: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MainInclusionReportBeagle | 10:14 |
| Lure | jpatrick: but this should not stop us (I think) - we just need to persuade more people... ;-) | 10:15 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime: sorry I was away ;) | 10:15 |
| _Sime | me too! | 10:15 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime: I was just looking at knetworkconf and I thought about something | 10:16 |
| _Sime | what's up? | 10:16 |
| Tonio_ | about the guidance modules that require to be root to do modifications | 10:16 |
| Riddell | beagle is only in main because nautilus build-deps on beagle-lib | 10:16 |
| Riddell | the beagle application is still in universe | 10:16 |
| Tonio_ | why don't you make options unclicable if not in admin mode ? | 10:16 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime: I must say having the ability to do modifications and click "apply" without anu change can be confusing no ? | 10:17 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime: I like the way knetworkconf does | 10:17 |
| danimo | _Sime: hi | 10:17 |
| _Sime | Tonio_: what are you referring to specifically? | 10:17 |
| danimo | _Sime: got some time? | 10:17 |
| _Sime | danimo: a bit. | 10:18 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime: I refer to the fact that you cannot click anything in knetworkconf until you go in administrator mode | 10:18 |
| _Sime | Tonio_: ummm what has this to do with guidance? | 10:18 |
| _Sime | Tonio_: guidances works the same way. | 10:19 |
| jpatrick | I wonder what would happen if I make kerry dep on libbeagle0 | 10:19 |
| Tonio_ | _si ? | 10:19 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime: hu ? | 10:19 |
| _Sime | Tonio_: do you have an example in mind? | 10:19 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime: let me check ;) I though about that a few weeks ago ;) | 10:20 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime: is that recently implemented ? I don't remember guidance was working like that....... | 10:20 |
| _Sime | Tonio_: bug??? but, yes guidance is meant to work like that. :) | 10:20 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime: for example system services....... | 10:21 |
| _Sime | Tonio_: If is doesn't, then it is a bug. ;) | 10:21 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime: you cannot apply but you can change stuff, why not making any change impossible ? | 10:21 |
| _Sime | Tonio_: you can't change stuff in services. | 10:21 |
| _Sime | Tonio_: if you are not root | 10:21 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime: you can play with the run level | 10:21 |
| _Sime | Tonio_: that doesn't change the run level though. | 10:22 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime: but I agree it is not like it was a few weeks ago ;) | 10:22 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime: last month I was able to play with the "display" module, but it was bugging for me | 10:22 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime: it is now okay, so sorry for bugging you with this :) | 10:22 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime: I should have looked because asking :) | 10:22 |
| _Sime | Tonio_: no prob. but please, test things, try to break it. There are still bugs to find (and fix!) | 10:23 |
| _Sime | Tonio_: are you using a laptop btw? | 10:23 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime: I did, but I gave it to my lovelly this week end ;) | 10:23 |
| Tonio_ | she needs it ;) | 10:24 |
| _Sime | oh | 10:24 |
| _Sime | I want to know if clone mode /vga-out is working for laptops. | 10:24 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime: I can't test anymore | 10:24 |
| _Sime | I've got reports that using clone mode on (some) laptops is not working well. | 10:24 |
| danimo | _Sime: basically I wanted to discuss my problems with displayconfig | 10:24 |
| jpatrick | _Sime: I have one | 10:24 |
| _Sime | danimo: please do. | 10:24 |
| _Sime | jpatrick: ok, split it out. :-) | 10:25 |
| _Sime | spit | 10:25 |
| _Sime | i mean | 10:25 |
| jpatrick | what should i do' | 10:25 |
| danimo | _Sime: ok, lets start with my setup: laptop with LCD-Display (1024x800) and external VGA-output | 10:26 |
| danimo | _Sime: which is (sometimes) connected to a 1280x1024 monitor | 10:26 |
| _Sime | jpatrick: oh, sorry, you HAVE a laptop. (I though a problem in guidance) | 10:26 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime: I could have done the test till yesterday, too bad :) | 10:26 |
| _Sime | danimo: yes | 10:26 |
| danimo | _Sime: first problem: displayconfig configures my display for a use with 75 Hz | 10:26 |
| jpatrick | _Sime: :) | 10:27 |
| danimo | _Sime: which is nonsistical, and makes the picture flicker on the external monitor | 10:27 |
| _Sime | danimo: you can turn that rate down, or not? | 10:27 |
| danimo | _Sime: furthermore, I am not able to configure a display resulting of 1280x1024 | 10:27 |
| danimo | _Sime: no, I can only chose 75 Hz | 10:27 |
| _Sime | danimo: have you tried selecting the monitor model on the hardware tab? | 10:28 |
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| _Sime | danimo: for the first & second monitors. | 10:28 |
| _Sime | danimo: I hope you actually see two monitors on the hardware tab. :-/ | 10:29 |
| danimo | _Sime: well, it is only one monitor physically | 10:29 |
| _Sime | danimo: and the hardware tab? | 10:29 |
| danimo | _Sime: intel 915 and vesa driver | 10:30 |
| danimo | _Sime: I only have the intel card though | 10:30 |
| _Sime | danimo: yes, but how many monitor icons are being displayed on the hardware tab in systemsettings/ | 10:31 |
| _Sime | ? | 10:31 |
| danimo | _Sime: one per card | 10:32 |
| _Sime | danimo: ok, it sounds like displayconfig hasn't detected that your machine is dualhead/clone/cga-out capable. | 10:33 |
| _Sime | danimo: you've only got one card though? | 10:33 |
| _Sime | danimo: I'll probably have to use the small "detect-laptop" script in displayconfig to detect a vga-out. | 10:37 |
| _Sime | danimo: every laptop has vga-out I assume | 10:37 |
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| jpatrick | evening raphink | 10:39 |
| raphink | hi jpatrick | 10:40 |
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| raphink | hi apachelogger | 10:40 |
| jpatrick | yo apachelogger | 10:41 |
| raphink | Tonio_: je suis l maintenant ;) | 10:41 |
| danimo | _Sime: yes, but some do have acutal dual head output | 10:42 |
| danimo | _Sime: it should just be like on windows (tm). if I switch to "display on both", the output is switched to the "least common denominator" (1024x800) for both, if I switch to the external monitor exclusively, it should get the optimal size (1280x1024) | 10:43 |
| _Sime | danimo: ok, i see | 10:43 |
| _Sime | danimo: I'll check that that is what is does in clone mode. | 10:44 |
| _Sime | danimo: do you have an example of a xorg.conf that works well for you AND gives uses the VGA-out too? | 10:45 |
| _Sime | danimo: or does you laptop always output on vga-out? | 10:46 |
| Tonio_ | raphink: pv | 10:46 |
| _Sime | danimo: most desktop cards need 'Clone' mode turned on. | 10:46 |
| danimo | _Sime: no it doesn't, I have to switch through it | 10:50 |
| apachelogger | ahoy jpatrick | 10:51 |
| _Sime | danimo: what do you mean? you just press a button and it does it by itself? | 10:51 |
| apachelogger | hey raphink | 10:51 |
| apachelogger | aloha to all :) | 10:51 |
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| danimo | _Sime: yes | 10:51 |
| raphink | hi apachelogger | 10:51 |
| danimo | _Sime: most keyboards do it that way | 10:51 |
| danimo | _Sime: the windows software even has means to catch those hooks | 10:51 |
| danimo | _Sime: (hooks that apperantly get send from the hardware when the switchover happens) | 10:52 |
| danimo | _Sime: no, I haven't yet succeeded in building a proper xorg.conf | 10:52 |
| danimo | _Sime: not sure if linux supports the toggle hooks at all. and without them we have no chance whatsoever to adjust the display size properly | 10:59 |
| _Sime | danimo: i'm not sure what to do in that case... | 11:02 |
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