[12:05] Riddell: upgrade works fine but amarok crash at start [12:05] i pastebin the konsole output ? [12:06] Riddell: konsole output : http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/648531 and kde crash dialog message : http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/648534 [12:06] marseillai: I had the same, send it to the amarok developers [12:07] LaserJock: yes, fixing [12:07] LaserJock: unless you already have a fix? [12:07] Riddell: ok, sorry about that. It looked like you just didn't grab the latest debian/rules that I modifed [12:08] quite possibly [12:14] seems to be the case, however kubuntu docs complains about kubuntu-adept which isn't mentioned in your rules file [12:15] yes, mdke removed it [12:15] in between [12:17] why? [12:18] the adept guide was removed from the repo because it is out of date. jjese said to take it out [12:19] ok [12:19] waouhhhh! :) with amarok not working my computer seems so ...... rapid, light ...... a real pleasure! :D [12:20] marseillai: rm -r ~/.kde/share/config/amarok ~/.kde/share/apps/amarok to fix it [12:21] lest go .... [12:21] perhaps with mv .... ;) [12:23] it doesn't work Riddell! [12:24] always the same bug [12:26] kbuildsycoca: Disk full? do you have a full disk? [12:26] otherwise it'll be bad permissions on /var/tmp/kdecache-cyril/ [12:28] i've no any full disk [12:28] i'll take a look a /var/tmp/kdecache-cyril/ [12:28] 4 drwx------ 9 cyril cyril 4096 2006-04-09 00:27 kdecache-cyril [12:29] and /var/tmp/kdecache-cyril/ksycoca ? [12:30] idem with no excution [12:30] 1148 -rw-r--r-- 1 cyril cyril 1169305 2006-04-08 17:23 ksycoca [12:30] LaserJock: new kubuntu-docs uploaded [12:30] Riddell: great [12:30] marseillai: run kbuildsycoca on the command line [12:31] same error .... [12:31] Riddell: Kubuntu looks beautiful, btw. I installed kubuntu-desktop to test the package [12:31] QFile::at: Cannot set file position 2878 [12:31] kbuildsycoca: ERROR writing database '/var/tmp/kdecache-cyril/ksycoca'! [12:31] kbuildsycoca: Disk full? [12:33] LaserJock: :) [12:33] LaserJock: I can never tell if I'm getting the default theme, since all my users have different environments used [12:33] LaserJock: now... how do I commit to that svn archive again? [12:33] Riddell: to the doc team svn? [12:34] LaserJock: yes [12:34] Riddell: do you have commit access? sorry if that is a stupid question [12:35] LaserJock: I do, I've just completely forgotten how to use it [12:35] svn commit [12:35] wiki page says its a https:// URL, is that right? [12:35] ah, just a sec [12:36] yeah, that's right. svn checkout https://docteam.ubuntu.com/repos/trunk ubuntu-doc [12:37] hmm, so it's a username and password I'm after? [12:38] yeah, you have to give svn a username and password the first time [12:39] hmm, well I've no idea what that would be [12:39] who can find out my username? 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[01:55] marseillai_: i'll do it [01:55] thanks [01:55] as in, keep you aware, not fix it [01:55] Riddell will probably forget :P [01:55] lol [01:55] oki [01:55] thanks [01:56] Hobbsee: r u a motu or dev ? === Hobbsee doesnt code...much...yet.... === Hobbsee is learning! === ZuZubuntu-fr is now known as AWAY [01:56] do you know siretart ? he is always telling "RTFM" or is it a special treatment for me ? [01:57] marseillai_: i do bits of packaging - upgrades, some stuff with old bug reports, etc === Hobbsee spoke to siretart yesterday, actually [01:57] marseillai_: he's very busy - and often the manuals are very good for explaining the bits needed [01:57] oki! so it's a special and reserve treatment forme! :) [01:57] it's far better to come and say - this is hte problem, i've tried this, that, and the other, and this is the pastebin that i've gotten, and blah blah blah [01:58] marseillai_: we're in luck here, because Riddell and raphink are very nice devs, who dont bite heads off :) [01:58] Hobbsee: but it's what i've done the first time! he told me rtfm! i worked on it during one month! and afterall it was really a bug! [01:58] true [01:59] so the second time he told me rtfm (yesterday) iwas a little hangry [01:59] what did he tell you that over? [02:02] that he prefer keep my bug on another package even if several devs told it's a wpa bug ..... and he told me that i've to rtfm to make something i'm trying to do since one month! [02:05] ouch === pef [n=loic@ubuntu/member/pef] has joined #kubuntu-devel === kmon [n=javier@217.Red-80-25-51.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:38] marseillai_: hehe - got rid of some dreaded bugs... [02:38] then saw the long list of kdebase ones, and gave up! [02:39] Hobbsee: could you reformulate your sentences [02:39] i'm french [02:39] and i've some difficulties with english [02:39] i was looking on launchpad, closed some bugs, then i looked at the bugs in kdebase - and gave up. :P [02:40] yes, i could see you dont have english as a first language, sorry... [02:40] wich one ? [02:40] all of them [02:40] Hobbsee: my english is so bad ? [02:40] :s [02:40] marseillai_: no, it's fairly good - just some phrases that are the wrong way around, for example [02:41] eg "i'm trying to do since one month" should be "i've been trying to do for the last month" [02:41] that's the one i noticed [02:42] oki! i've some diffculties with "for" "since" "during" .... [02:42] ah ok :) [02:43] i've reported only one bug with kde and it's not on launchpad [02:43] i prefer report kde bug on kde bugzilla [02:43] I think it's more usefull [02:43] even if i'm not really sure it's a kde or ubuntu bug [02:44] true [02:44] it's possible to mark a bug as upstream, from lauchpad [02:44] yes but kde bugzilla is evil!!!!! too hard to use [02:44] i've written bugs on both bugs.kde.org, and launchpad [02:44] hehe! [02:44] so's the normal bugzilla! [02:45] yes [02:45] wpa_supplicant bugzilla is evil master [02:45] apparently people are working on it [02:45] :D [02:45] huh? [02:45] they should think to use launchpad ..... [02:47] yay!!! [02:47] marseillai_: amarok beta3 packages are on kubuntu.org === marseillai_ come back on xchat! dapper's konvi is much better than breezy's one but some features are still missing for me [02:47] hehe [02:47] Hobbsee: DON T TRY THEM .... [02:47] why not? [02:47] because ridd ell ask for testers yesterday [02:47] and they don't work [02:48] amarok don't launch [02:48] it resolve the problem with libqt3-mysql [02:48] but amarok crashes [02:48] ahhh...ok [02:48] marseillai_: known problem [02:48] that would be why the amarok-latest wasnt upgraded [02:48] it's that i'm waiting [02:49] marseillai_: Riddell said he was going to do something about it with the release of beta3 today [02:49] danimo: yes i know! i'm waiting for fixes to upgrade [02:49] pity... [02:49] danimo: yes i know i was trying to help him on this yesterday === Hobbsee is used to running svn amarok [02:49] marseillai_: it was even worse for me [02:49] I did an adept upgrade and suddenly amarok was gone [02:49] upps [02:49] lol [02:50] hehe [02:50] you have not change your depot to beta3 packages ? [02:50] :| [02:50] marseillai_: where are they? [02:50] danimo: http://kubuntu.org/packages/ [02:50] you can use the symlinked amarok-latest [02:51] arf! do not know the english translation for my prefer answer to this sort of question .... [02:51] Hobbsee: beta packages are not in latest link! they are ? [02:51] are they? you mean, yes, they are [02:51] :| uh yes they are! [02:52] marseillai_: see http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-latest/pool-dapper/ [02:52] :P [02:52] just see [02:52] The following packages have unmet dependencies: [02:52] amarok: Depends: libmysqlclient15 (>= 5.0.15-1) but it is not going to be installed [02:52] danimo: that for beta3? [02:52] there are two libmysqlclient15 versions [02:52] or beta2? [02:52] danimo: ;) normal! libmysqlclient15 have change is name! [02:53] I just switched to latest [02:53] so beta2 [02:53] yeah. they know. they're working on it [02:53] it will be repair with beta3 === OdyX [n=Didier@8.Red-80-33-64.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:53] i had a bug number, but i've forgotten it [02:53] hi OdyX [02:53] lu OdyX! la forme? [02:54] Hobbsee: 38701! it's mine! :) [02:54] hehe [02:54] ah, ok, latest != beta3 [02:54] mean :) === Hobbsee has seen too many bug reports today to remember the numbers [02:54] danimo: yes! latest = latest with a few test and wich is know to work [02:54] danimo: correct [02:55] know or known ? [02:55] marseillai_: known [02:55] oki [02:55] :) [02:55] konvi test : === marseillai_ is listening to "Manomenos" by Kaophonic Tribu on Nysa Sphre 7 [Kaffeine] [02:56] Uptime: 2 hours and minutes [02:56] works [02:56] Uptime: 21 hours and 33 minutes [02:56] heh === marseillai_ didn't know [02:56] :) === Hobbsee turns her laptop off when she's not here [02:56] konvi is pretty good! but geek's features are missing! :s [02:58] hehe true === marseillai [n=mars_@AMarseille-153-1-39-181.w86-197.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:01] feel much better with xchat! [03:01] marseillai: what features in particular? [03:01] hehe [03:01] command completion! my own, complex command.... [03:02] geeks... ;) [03:02] danimo: of course. [03:02] hey marseillai... :D [03:03] marseillai: konversation has aliases [03:03] danimo: command completion, better chan identify (work everywhere with xchat not with konvi), and almost : the aibility to create complex command for example i have alias for ( /nick marseillai && /ns identify my_pass ) and it's so hard to do with konvi! and many others alias like them! and there are many scripts usefull for ircop with xchat! [03:03] identify works with freenode. that's enough :) [03:04] Hobbsee: not this sort of aliases! i've to use dcop and many complicate things [03:04] danimo: nop! it's not for me! :s [03:04] marseillai: you should be able to set that in the server list - there's a username and password field, which will auto-identify you [03:04] but I see your point [03:05] Hobbsee: it works on freenode yes! but no on another server i use [03:05] oh ok [03:05] so! it's not bad! konvi is so good! but xchat is more pretty good FOR ME! [03:07] are you sure that whatever shows up as beta3 is actually beta3? [03:08] danimo: yeah, lintian screams loudly if you name the packages wrong. [03:08] why do you ask? [03:08] Hobbsee: because features that should be there are not [03:08] like proper handling of podcast names [03:09] danimo: ! [03:09] Riddell: I thought you might be interested: "Kopete 0.12 will be released around the 1st of May." [03:09] you should not have beta3 ...... [03:09] it doesn't work..... [03:09] Tm_T: yay! that's way after UVF though... [03:09] Hobbsee: indeed [03:09] last changelog entry from april 6th [03:10] Hobbsee: but it would bring much improvenments, including reliability and filetransfer fixes [03:10] better be ready to write a main inclusion statement, if it's needed :P [03:10] =) === Tm_T is ready like a soldier [03:10] o7 [03:15] Hobbsee: also, looks like Kopete 0.12, adiumx, and incoming google talk will the very same chat styles [03:15] will use [03:16] nice! [03:16] indeed === Hobbsee sees that she should be on the -motu mailing list [03:16] =) [03:16] ok, whatever is claimed to be beta3 is in fact at best beta1 === Tm_T uses amaroK from svn [03:17] actually I just compiled newest changes, restarting it ;) [03:17] no wonder i keep missing everything! [03:17] Hobbsee: =) [03:18] Hobbsee: not missing everything, I'm right here ;) [03:18] heeh === Tm_T hides [03:18] please don't hit me [03:18] ...somehow I feel people doesn't understand my sense of humour [03:19] it's more twisted than it seems [03:19] danimo: from wich depot did you upgrade amarok ? [03:19] i wasnt about it [03:19] *to === Hobbsee has a headache, and is trying to manhandle launchpad [03:20] enough said, really, hehe [03:20] =) [03:21] hrm, has anyone else noticed that you cant alt+Drag windows in dapper to move em? [03:21] worked all the time in breezy, doesnt work most of the time in dapper [03:21] and i cant seem to find an option fo rit [03:21] marseillai: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-beta3 dapper main [03:22] and it works ? [03:22] ahum ..... [03:22] ? === marseillai will try again [03:22] Lathiat: doesnt happen on my system [03:22] danimo: it's amarok-1.4-beta3? [03:22] freeflying: it _should_ be [03:23] hrm [03:23] should try blowing away my homedir then [03:23] Hobbsee: does it work on a terminal? [03:23] Lathiat: the alt drag? === Lathiat boggle [03:24] sit just standard working [03:24] after i change the allow movement of maximimzed window soption [03:24] which is a bit odd [03:24] yeah, works here, i dont think i changed anything [03:24] hrm actually it seems to depend how long i wait before holding alt [03:24] i need a noticable delay === Hobbsee shrugs === Hobbsee doesnt know :P [03:24] hrm [03:24] i used to just hit alt hit the mouse button and drag [03:24] interesting [03:25] oh, nevermind [03:25] something went terribly wrong with apt [03:25] hehe [03:26] you could try uninstalling it...someone wanted to yesterday... [03:26] no, wait...that was wanting to uninstall dpkg [03:27] someone just renamed the directory to amarok14-beta3 === Sime|AFK is now known as _Sime [03:28] <_Sime> danimo: hey [03:28] _Sime: heya. time for some bad mood? [03:28] :=) [03:28] <_Sime> oh [03:29] hi _Sime [03:29] <_Sime> danimo: do you have bad news? [03:29] <_Sime> Hobbsee: hi, are you in .au? [03:29] _Sime: yes, it fail for me completely [03:29] fails even [03:29] _Sime: describing the problem takes a while [03:29] let me just get amarok 1.4 beta 3 installed [03:30] <_Sime> danimo: is this an python exception prob? [03:30] danimo: i see amarok as real beta 3 ..... [03:30] no [03:30] _Sime: yep [03:30] marseillai: yes, me too now [03:30] sydney [03:30] marseillai: what's wrong with "deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok14-beta3 dapper main"? [03:30] <_Sime> Hobbsee: ok, I studied in melbourne [03:31] fun :0 [03:31] danimo: nothing at all - except that the packages in that repo apparently crash on start [03:31] Hobbsee: now it works [03:31] had to remove config files [03:32] marseillai: yay! (which was this again?) [03:32] /share/config and apps [03:32] outch :) [03:32] nevermind :) [03:32] hehe [03:32] I cannot type [03:32] yeah, neither - it's kinda cold here [03:32] .au is not the warmest place to stay around this time is it? [03:32] and i'm being blasted in #kubuntu, with people saying "the current theme is terrible" - yeah, tell me somethign i dont know!!! [03:33] no, not really...... [03:33] Hobbsee: yeah, the current theme has ... room for improvement [03:33] LOL! [03:33] yes [03:33] unfortunately, the guy in charge of it hasnt done that much with it recently, and isnt here this minute [03:33] Hobbsee: kwwii? [03:34] Hobbsee: kwwii? [03:34] yeah [03:34] haha [03:34] have to push him === danimo 's gonna kick him === Hobbsee would take it over, and find something nice, but doesnt have a graphics program [03:34] already promised to kill his son yesterday [03:34] Tm_T: he or you? :) === Hobbsee contemplates finding one, and askign for responsibility over it anyway === marseillai like the new theme ................... [03:34] I [03:34] at least the dragon is gone from the wallaper [03:35] marseillai: yeah, there are some nice bits - but it can get better! [03:35] lol [03:35] but the fact that you get 3-4 different wallapers from kdm to desktop is ugly [03:35] i like this dragon painting the desktop in orange [03:35] danimo: hey, I wanna see the dragon wallpaper! [03:35] :d [03:35] Tm_T: see kubuntu.org [03:35] Tm_T: hmm? [03:36] Hobbsee: that one?... I now understand [03:36] i assume so, yes [03:36] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuDapperArtworkTodo [03:36] that's the working page of kwwi's stuff, i think [03:37] *kwwii [03:38] marseillai: I'm up to the point where it crashes now, yay :) [03:38] danimo: hehe! [03:39] danimo: amarok crashes on your machine ? [03:39] hmmm...7 weeks... [03:39] wonder when artwork freeze is, as this stuff needs to be done before that [03:39] marseillai: absofuckinlutely! [03:39] danimo: rm your config files [03:40] marseillai: no help [03:40] Riddell: now after a remove, reinstall and remove config files amarok beta3 works fine ..... [03:40] danimo: dpkg -r then apt-get install rm config file and it should works [03:41] Tm_T: any idea when artwork freeze is? doestn seem to be on dapper release schedule... === OculusAquilae [n=oculus@pD9508E50.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:41] marseillai: it's podcast stuff that crashes === marseillai don't understand anything in dapper release schedule since the mark's delay [03:42] anyone know tonio's repo's url [03:42] yes i know it [03:42] why ? [03:42] Hobbsee: do you know ? [03:43] freeflying: why this question [03:43] freeflying: you can trust this repository [03:43] marseillai: need some package from his repo [03:43] tonio make many packages for kubuntu as Knetworkmanager and many else [03:44] ah! amarok 1.4beta3 bug ........ where is the bugzilla? [03:45] marseillai: works now [03:45] freeflying: what? yes, i do [03:45] #Kubuntu networkmanager packages [03:45] deb http://kubuntu.no-ip.org/kubuntu dapper main [03:45] deb-src http://kubuntu.no-ip.org/kubuntu dapper main [03:45] Hobbsee: tonio's repo [03:45] gotcha ;P [03:45] Hobbsee: thx [03:46] careful, some stuff in it breaks from time to time === Hobbsee uses it though, for better or for worse [03:46] Hobbsee: I see [03:46] Hobbsee: no idea [03:46] marseillai: upstream, or packaging bug? [03:46] Tm_T: darn [03:46] danimo: could you verify a bug with me please before i report ? [03:46] upstream Hobbsee [03:46] marseillai: sure [03:47] marseillai: bugs.kde.org [03:47] danimo: when you keep the mouse on amarok systray icone does the popup menu appears in his right place or on the top of the screen N [03:47] Hobbsee: verify the bug and if it is i report [03:48] appears in the right place, with beta2 [03:48] marseillai: hmm? [03:48] arf [03:48] Hobbsee: cold you explain in better english i can't do better! :s [03:48] marseillai: everything seems to be in the right place [03:48] could [03:48] arf [03:48] so it's my bug [03:49] marseillai: what danimo said. using beta2 packages. [03:49] danimo: the yellow window just appear on your mouse ? [03:49] as in, amarok 1.4 beta2 packages [03:49] marseillai: yepp [03:49] marseillai: amarok - rediscover your music! [03:50] arf! [03:50] Tm_T: i've just discovered a goldmine of kubuntu images... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuArtwork === _Sime wonders why CDs don't automount... annoying. [03:51] Hobbsee: yeah [03:52] Tm_T: i think we should stick that somewhere in the next meeting - everyone look, and pick which one would be best. [03:52] if kwwii doesnt come up with something mindblowing in the meantime [03:53] maybe [03:54] oh well === Hobbsee considers falling asleep on the keyboard === allee [n=ach@dialin-212-144-128-106.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:06] argl [04:06] who created that ubuntu theme for amarok? [04:06] it's totally unreadable :( [04:06] hi allee [04:06] Ho, ho Hobbsee === Hobbsee 's brain is fried [04:06] Hobbsee: oh, why? [04:06] tired, and getting whined at about the current theme in dapper... [04:06] danimo: it's the first thing i changed! ;) [04:07] =) === Tm_T doesn't use defaults [04:07] so I have no idea what defaults looks like [04:07] Hobbsee: yeah, theme is not optimal [04:07] http://www.tm-travolta.net/shots/current.png [04:07] hehe! [04:08] nooooo [04:08] oh well === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:09] darn it! [04:09] hit close on the wrong window [04:09] Tm_T: you have MANY unread article in akregartor! go and read! [04:09] hehe [04:09] nah, just right click, force all read [04:09]