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_spiritzthe new amarok seems to require libmysqlclient15off; I have a dependence called libmysqlclient15 but no *off one.12:14
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_spiritzspoke too fast, sorry12:23
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StarZenDapt-get times out nomatter what sources.list i seem to use01:02
StarZenDsuggestions anyone?01:03
McScruffhmm01:03
McScruffin commandline?01:03
StarZenDyes, in commandline01:03
Tm_TStarZenD: well, what mirrors you tried01:04
McScruffdoes it time out for all sources ?01:04
StarZenDit does01:04
Tm_TMcScruff: good point01:04
Tm_TStarZenD: put your current sources.list to kubuntu.pastebin.com01:04
StarZenDTm_T: the default ones, as well as the ones generated from the source-o-matic on the ubuntu site with both the nz country code and no country code01:04
StarZenDokay01:04
McScruffthere might be a typo in the list somewhere01:05
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StarZenDhttp://www.kubuntu.pastebin.com/64860201:06
tRSShey guys, what do I have to edit to mount my windows network shares at boot time? I can mount them right now manually01:06
duelbootanyone know how I can get my K apps to look like gnome when I'm in gnome?01:06
McScruff...01:08
McScruffthey use 2 different things (cant remember what their called) kde = QT and gnome uses gtk i think01:08
McScruffso unless you can reprograme it :S01:08
duelbooteasyubuntu had an option to do that, but it didn't work for me01:09
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paulvolkHello01:10
StarZenDHello01:10
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paulvolkI was wondering how I would change my KDE theme in Kubuntu01:10
paulvolk?01:10
paulvolkcan anyone tell me how?01:12
StarZenDI cant. im a newbie01:12
noteventimepaulvolk, You got a theme from somewhere?01:12
paulvolkYa01:12
noteventimeYou probably need to comile it01:13
noteventimecompile*01:13
noteventimeIs it a style or a window decoration?01:13
paulvolkit is a .kth file01:14
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paulvolkI have used Suse so I am not a total linux noob01:16
paulvolkbut in suse it has a theme manager in the Kontrol centre01:16
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Snake__Riddell: are you around?01:17
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paulvolknoteventime: do you know how I could apply them?01:18
tafsenHow can I enable SSH using the consoll?01:18
noteventimeYes, in kcontrol01:18
beefsprockettafsen: sudo apt-get install openssh-server01:19
noteventimesorry paulvolk, I had to go for a second back now01:19
noteventimetry the theme manager in kcontrol01:19
paulvolkwhere is it I can't seem to find it01:19
tafsenbeefsprocket: it's installed, only need to configure the firewall to lett it trough.01:19
beefsprockettafsen: it is running?01:19
noteventimefirst start kcontrol , from a console or from "Run command"01:20
noteventimekdesu kcontrol01:20
noteventimeIn the appearance part there should be one called theme manager01:20
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tafsenbeefsprocket: I've done it before, I just can't remember the command.  When I typed the command a interface showed up where I could chose what type of connection to let trough01:21
beefsprockettafsen: iptables right?01:22
tafsenbeefsprocket: I don't know really.  But I guess that could be it01:22
beefsprocketI've not configured it from the command line, i just use kmyfirewall01:23
paulvolkThanks01:23
noteventimedid it work?01:23
beefsprocketwhich is a gui frontend for iptables01:23
beefsprocketsorry I can't help more01:23
noteventimetafsen, iptables or an external firewall?01:24
tafsennoteventime: iptables01:24
noteventimeohh, ok01:24
noteventime!iptables01:24
noteventimeMight want to try #iptables01:25
noteventimeSorry, Can't help any more01:25
paulvolkcould some one point me to a list of reositories?01:26
Snake__!sources01:27
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource01:27
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Snake__hey ryanakca___01:28
RiddellSnake__: hmm?01:28
Snake__Riddell: may I message you if you have a moment?01:29
Riddellok01:29
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Snake__Riddell: (msg sent.. heh)01:36
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StarZenDhmm. odd.01:39
ryanakcaSnake__: hey... gah... I have a pile of lag ghosts....01:39
ryanakcacan someone kick them please?01:39
StarZenDif i "host security.ubuntu.com" then "sudo apt-get update" doesnt time out till i get to archive.ubuntu.com in the sources.list file01:39
StarZenDwhats going on?01:39
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jrobkubhi, i tried installing kubuntu on my 2nd hd and grub on the mbr of my 1st hd, my system wont boot, how do i repair grub?01:43
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paulvolkHow would I update to KDE 3.5 from 3.4?01:48
Snake__Riddell: Have you ignored me :) lol01:50
Snake__!kde3.501:50
ubotuTo upgrade to to the latest KDE3.5, Follow the instructions at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-352.php (add the deb... line to your sources.list). Then "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".01:50
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_AgKWelchen C Compiler kann man fr ./configure unter breezy nutzen?02:01
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noteventime!de02:02
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de02:02
noteventime_AgK, du brauchst build-essential02:02
noteventimesudo apt-get install build-essential02:03
_AgKmom ich probiers02:03
_AgKachso da installiert er alles zum compilen?02:04
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_AgKpasst fett02:05
_AgKthx noteventime02:05
noteventimenp :)02:05
noteventime!i81002:06
ubotuWish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, noteventime02:06
noteventime!mesa02:06
ubotunoteventime: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/02:06
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nrdbHi I am trying to make a 'glade 2' program, when in the main project directory the tutorial says to run './autogen.sh' when I do this I get the error message "**Error**: You must have `glib' installed." but adept says I have both libglib1.2 and libglib2.0-0 installed.  does anyone know what going on?02:07
noteventime!I_HATE_INTEL02:07
ubotunoteventime: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/02:07
noteventimenrdb, do you have glib-dev?02:07
nrdbnoteventime: no I don't02:07
noteventimeIf it exists, or anyone with a similar name, try installing it02:08
nrdbnoteventime: which one should I install?02:08
noteventimeI would try libglib2.0-dev first02:09
__AgKchecking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths! - fehlt mir da noch ein paket?02:09
nrdbnoteventime: ok02:09
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noteventime_AgK, Ja02:09
noteventimeOne moment please02:09
__AgKok02:10
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noteventime_AgK, x-window-system-dev i think02:10
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noteventimeAnd next time please stick to English in this channel ;)02:11
noteventimeThere is a german one02:11
__AgKim sorry i did not notice02:12
noteventimenp :)02:12
noteventimeDid it help?02:13
__AgKchecking for libjpeg... no02:15
__AgKconfigure: WARNING: libjpeg not found. disable JPEG support.02:15
__AgKchecking for perl... /usr/bin/perl02:15
__AgKchecking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.2 and < 4.0) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!02:15
__AgKnow a new error =902:15
__AgKi cant find headers in synaptic02:16
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__AgKrunning qt 3.3.402:16
noteventimelibqt3-headers02:16
noteventime?02:16
__AgKlol thx02:17
__AgKand which libraries does it mean?02:17
__AgKsorry for stupid questions its my first time compiling something02:18
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elijahlofgren__AgK: Let me check.02:18
__AgKlibqt3-mt i think ill try again02:19
__AgKthis was installed already02:19
__AgKsame result02:20
jonathan_I'm just curious, does anyone in here use xine and have horrible fonts ?02:20
elijahlofgren__AgK: Maybe: libqt3-mt-dev ?02:20
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__AgKtrying02:21
nrdbnoteventime: that worked, I had to install another package libgnomeui-dev and didn02:21
noteventimeok :)02:22
arrinmurrjonathan_: you mean in xine-ui? i think i used to have that problem a long time ago in debian. but why don't you use kaffeine? ;)02:22
jonathan_kaffine has issues with dvds02:22
jonathan_for some reason02:22
arrinmurrjonathan_: oh, i haven't faced any02:22
noteventime__AgK, Sorry, didn't work?02:22
nrdboh doesn't it have issues02:22
jonathan_and i use what i'm used to, that's probably most of it02:22
__AgKit did02:24
noteventimegood :)02:24
__AgKbut now another error02:24
__AgKchecking for KDE... configure: error:02:24
__AgKin the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.02:24
__AgKSo, check this please and use another prefix!02:24
crimsun(you don't appear to have kdebase-dev installed?)02:25
__AgKit wasnt i check if it works02:26
__AgKbtw thanks for the great help02:26
__AgKGood - your configure finished. Start make now02:27
__AgK=)02:27
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__AgKabout 100mb i installed now with all these packages for compiling i didnt think it would be that much02:29
__AgKjust to install a 200 kb prog hehe02:29
jonathan_ok, i'm dumb, kaffine works02:30
__AgKit works!02:30
Reflektionz98i am having a problem enabling a network interface, can anyone help me out?02:30
jonathan_It's finally happened....I can finally do everything I want with Linux!!02:30
jonathan_I have just really been impressed with how linux on the desktop has progressed02:31
Reflektionz98Anyone????02:32
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__AgKWhats exactly the problem?02:32
__AgKReflektionz02:33
Reflektionz98i had the connection working for a few days, but all of a sudden....02:33
Reflektionz98i didn't have internet access02:33
Reflektionz98so i checked my network settings02:33
Reflektionz98and noticed that eth0 was disabled02:34
Reflektionz98i don't know why that happened but i tried to reenable it02:34
Reflektionz98for less than 1/2 second it said enabled and was disabled again02:34
Reflektionz98every time i enable it , it disables immediatly02:35
__AgKhm and the modem does funktion?02:35
__AgKwhat type of connection?02:35
Reflektionz98my windows partition is what i am using to access the web at the moment cuz obviously kubuntu won't02:35
Reflektionz98cable connection02:36
__AgKhm02:36
Reflektionz98yes windows partition works great02:36
Reflektionz98kubuntu partition just won't keep eth0 enabled02:37
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__AgKmaybe u try to specify the dns server?02:37
Reflektionz98i didn't check on that02:37
__AgKi dont know if it works02:37
Reflektionz98i will try it02:38
__AgKu can look in windows which it uses02:38
Reflektionz98what else might it be if that doesn't work02:38
RanmaHi to all I jusr wanna know if it's possible to use tv out with radeon driver02:38
__AgKand ip to02:38
Reflektionz98i'll be back i'm gonna check dns02:39
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julianothere's a synaptic in kubuntu?02:42
arrinmurrjuliano: there's adept02:42
julianoallright02:42
julianodoes the same as synaptic?02:43
arrinmurrjuliano: yeah02:43
__AgKim using synaptic in kubuntu02:43
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davixcan some one tell me why the kubuntu (dapper 6) cd won't load on bios?02:46
davixthe ubuntu (dapper 6) has no problem booting02:47
davixjust the kubuntu one02:47
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Reflektionz98__Agk: dns was set right, IP was set to DHCP as always03:08
Reflektionz98don't know what it could be03:08
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kenshirouhello all - anyone have the latest NVidia drivers installed?03:16
StarZenDim having trouble resolving addresses..03:17
StarZenDwhere would i start looking to fix it?03:18
__AgKreflektion i have cable to no problems in ubuntu but in win i need to specify ip gateway dns ... for the connection to work03:19
Snake__http://feuerfrei.kicks-ass.net/PlayRadio.m3u Imagi-Nation Station has a first time DJ! Tune in! Classic Rock!03:19
kenshirou!nvidia03:22
ubotumethinks nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736803:22
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ndgciao03:26
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Dannyhey everyone :D03:30
CheeseBurgerManHey03:30
Dannyanyone know why my "make" command isn't working03:30
Dannycuz its supposed to work..right?03:31
CheeseBurgerManhave you installed build-essential?03:31
Dannyno..03:31
Dannygoing to now03:31
CheeseBurgerManok03:31
Snake__http://feuerfrei.kicks-ass.net/PlayRadio.m3u Imagi-Nation Station has a first time DJ! Tune in! Classic Rock!03:32
ndg#torino03:32
Dannyyay works03:32
Dannylol03:32
Dannythanks CheeseBurgerMan03:32
Dannydo you like cheese burgers?03:33
CheeseBurgerManNot particularly. :P03:33
Dannylol03:35
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Dannyok..how do I copy files to a dir that I can't03:36
Dannycuz I'm not root03:36
CheeseBurgerMansudo cp path/to/file path/to/place/to/copy03:36
flodinehello guys just wondering how do i just add a window decorator theme03:36
Dannythanks03:37
flodinei can install a theme but just the decorations i cant get03:38
Dannyhow do I copy a folder?03:38
flodineanyone please help or just give me a good link03:39
robotgeekflodine: on dapper, lots in the default install03:40
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flodinei know i just to add one is there a /.theme folder or something03:40
metalheddever since about a week ago the adept updater has been giving me an error about mimetypes just before it starts up, seems to work fine though, anyone know whats going on?03:41
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flodinewhy is there no add button for window decoration03:42
flodinehow can you add if there no where to add03:43
Dannyhow do you copy folders?03:43
DannyI am in  anormal user account03:44
DannyI just did sudo -i03:44
Dannyanyway03:44
Dannyit says this:03:44
Dannyroot@dknoppix:~# cp /html /usr/local/bin/peercast03:44
Dannycp: cannot stat `/html': No such file or directory03:44
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CheeseBurgerManDanny: try running konqueror from the root shell. :P03:44
Dannyhow do I do that?03:44
Dannykdesu konqueror03:45
Danny?03:45
CheeseBurgerMantype in konqueror...03:45
Dannyfrom a run03:45
CheeseBurgerMan;)03:45
CheeseBurgerManNo, just type 'konqueror' in the root shell03:45
Dannycannot connect to X server03:45
Dannyyup03:45
Dannykdesu works03:46
CheeseBurgerManOK, kdesu it. :P03:46
Dannyyay03:46
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CheeseBurgerMan:)03:47
ernestoBuenas noches03:47
ernestotengo una pregunta algo rara...03:47
ernestoalguien se atreve???03:47
CheeseBurgerMan!es03:48
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.03:48
CheeseBurgerManI think I got the language right. :P03:48
Dannylol03:48
Dannyyeah03:48
Dannyyou did03:48
CheeseBurgerManGood. :)03:48
Dannyanyone ever you peercast?03:48
CheeseBurgerMannope03:49
kevinwhat is peercasting?03:49
Dannyits a program03:49
kevinnope03:49
Dannyhttp://www.peercast.org/wiki/wakka.php?wakka=PeerCast03:49
Dannyor when you launch a new program03:49
Dannyis it supposed to launch fast03:50
Dannycuz I did:03:50
Danny./peercast03:50
Dannyand its just hanging03:50
CheeseBurgerManI assume you're in the right dir. ;)03:50
tarmathanyone knows which gcc will be included in dapper^03:50
CheeseBurgerManIs is peercast.sh or peercast.py?03:50
Dannyyes03:51
Dannynone03:51
Dannyits just ann app03:51
CheeseBurgerMantry sh ./peercast03:51
Dannynope03:52
Dannynot sh03:52
tarmathDanny: maybe it is running? open another terminal and type ps aux | grep peercast03:52
Dannyhow do i know?03:52
tarmathknow what, whats the output03:53
Dannydk       29124  0.0  0.2  36128  1372 ?        Sl   21:16   0:00 /home/dk/Desktop/peercast03:53
Dannydk       29141  0.2  0.2  19732  1364 ?        Sl   21:16   0:04 ./peercast03:53
Dannydk       30852  0.0  0.1   3060   752 pts/5    S+   21:52   0:00 grep peercast03:53
tarmathyea it's running03:53
tarmathis there supposed to be a gui or is this some kind of service03:53
Dannyoh ok03:53
DannyI think theres supposed to be a gui..03:53
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tarmathby the way, "ps" shows a process list... so you know it's running if it shows up03:54
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tarmathif you want to kill it, type kill and it's process id, in this case kill 2914103:55
tarmathor you could do it more drastically with killall peercast03:56
Dannyooh!03:56
Dannylol03:56
tarmathwhat? you found the gui window ?03:56
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Dannyno03:57
DannyI like drastically doing things03:57
tarmathif you want a complete list of processes running on your box, simply type ps aux03:57
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Dannyits only 10 :/03:57
tarmathapparently we're in the same time zone03:58
Dannycool03:58
Dannyouch03:58
Dannymy laptop is hot03:58
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Dannylike more than 100 degrees on the bottom03:58
paulvolkHello03:58
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DannyI've gotten many burns from it03:58
tarmathhi03:58
paulvolkHow would I compile a theme in Kubuntu03:58
paulvolk?03:58
tarmathyou know some people have gone infertile because of the constant heat of their laptops on their laps?03:59
kevin10.00am or 10.00pm Danny?03:59
Dannypm03:59
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kevinit is 12 noon sunday where I am03:59
Dannyit feels like 3 am03:59
Dannywow04:00
tarmathpaulvolk: compile a theme?04:00
paulvolkya04:00
tarmathpaulvolk: or install one?04:00
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Dannyfor spring break :D04:00
kevinnice...04:00
kevin:D04:00
paulvolkwell I want to install it but it has to be compiled04:00
Hobbsee!compile04:00
ubotuA nice howto about compiling software from source code can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (but remember to search !apt first, after adding all the !repos)04:00
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tarmathpaulvolk: are you sure about that?04:01
robotgeekDanny: no scripts please04:02
Dannysorry :(04:03
Dannyhow do you delete something via termial04:05
robotgeekDanny: rm <file>04:05
HobbseeDanny: rm filename04:05
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robotgeek!cli04:05
ubotuCLI means Command Line Interface, aka the terminal or console. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/ or http://www.tuxfiles.org04:05
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paulvolkhow would I install kbfx?04:07
Dannyty04:07
Hobbsee!info kbfx04:07
Dannyuh04:07
Hobbsee!info kbfx dapper04:07
Dannyi can't remove a directory04:07
Hobbseedarn!04:07
HobbseeDanny: rmdir directory04:07
Hobbseemake sure it's empty first04:07
robotgeekDanny: read that link ^^04:08
Dannythanks04:08
Xaero_Vincentis there a Gaim equivelent in KDE?04:08
Hobbseepaulvolk: i think you have to compile it - but it was accepted into dapper, IIRC04:08
Xaero_Vincentfor*04:08
robotgeekXaero_Vincent: kopete04:08
Dannyhow come I don't have any sound coming from firefox?04:08
Xaero_Vincentbut does Kopete join chatrooms?04:09
Xaero_Vincentlike Gaim does04:09
robotgeekXaero_Vincent: irc chatrooms?04:09
Xaero_Vincentno like MSN and Yahoo chatrooms04:09
robotgeekXaero_Vincent: no clue, sorry04:09
StarZenDyes, kopete does join irc chats04:11
Dannywhy can't I delete anything now?04:12
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julianoi'm having problem running adept, it does not work when i try to run it as root04:18
julianoanyone knows why?04:18
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kevinadept (the gui) asks you for your admin password .. then it is root04:29
phochhas anyone configured Sea Monkey on Kubuntu?04:31
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Dannybrb04:36
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carthikwhat is the equivalent of gnome-volume-manager on KDE? I was helping someone debug a problem, and need to know04:40
psi_force if ubuntu-server and ubuntu share the same repositories and installer, what is the purpose other then a specialised kernel package?04:41
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Dannyhey everyone04:42
Dannywhen I go to "Storage Media"04:42
Dannynothing shows up04:43
noteventimeDoes someone know how to get the source for the i810 drivers?04:43
noteventimei REALLY need it :)04:44
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jehnxI need help with accessing my XP partition on my hard drive.. I mounted it to /mnt/sda2, but now I can't access it unless I su first.04:47
jehnxI need everyone to be able to access it, read-only.04:47
Dannyjehnx: hit Alt-F2 and type "kdesu kcontrol"04:48
Dannythen enter your password04:48
jehnxI've tried changing the owner to my user by "sudo chown jehnx /mnt/sda2" but it doesn't work.. it says it works, but when I go into /mnt/sda2 in a browser it doesn't allow me in.04:48
jehnxOk, let me try that, Danny.04:48
Dannywhen it loads, go to system administration -->Disk and File Systems04:48
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Dannyfind your hard drive, and click "Modify"04:49
jehnxWhen I click on that hard drive, the "modify" button goes blank.04:49
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jehnxAny idea why it would be like that?04:50
Dannywhat if you click on the thing that says something like: 2 Partition <size>04:50
Dannyfind the ntfs partiton04:50
jehnxYeah, that's what I mean.. when i click on that partition, it goes blank.  I can "modify" any of my linux partitions, but can't do the XP one.04:51
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jehnxIt doesn't say the type is ntfs, either.. it's just blank.04:51
StarZenDbesides xine and gstreamer are there any engines that will play mp3s?04:51
Dannyoh..that shouldn't happen04:51
jehnxDanny, do you know what I could do to fix it?04:51
jehnxIf I use su I can view the files in konsole, but I'd like access to them on at least my normal username so taht I can do things with the files taht I need to work on any whatnot.04:52
jehnxthat*04:52
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Dannyhmm04:53
DannySorry...try posting on the forums04:53
Dannyunless anyone here knows04:53
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jehnxAnyone?04:55
jehnxAnd thanks for your help, Danny.  :)04:55
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Hobbseejehnx: what's the questoin?04:59
noteventime!kernelmodules04:59
ubotuWhat? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, noteventime04:59
noteventime!kernel modules04:59
ubotuNot a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, noteventime04:59
jehnxHobbsee:  I'm trying to mount another partition onto my hard drive.  I get it mounted into /mnt/sda2, but it's only accessible to root/su, no other users.  When I try to chmod and chown, it comes up and says "chown: changing ownership of '/mnt/sda2': Read-only file system" which makes me think it's working, but when I browse to it it doesn't work, and still the only way I can access it is via su or root in a konsole.04:59
noteventime!kernel_modules04:59
ubotunoteventime: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/04:59
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jehnxI go to my disk manager utility in KDE, and it shows up as a paritiont, but doesn't have ntfs as the "type," and doesn't allow me to modify it, whereas with the other partitions I can modify them just fine.. the button goes blank when I try it with this one, though.05:00
noteventimejehnx, What filesystem is it?05:00
jehnxnoteventime: It's XP, so I imagine NTFS.05:00
jehnxafaik that's it05:00
Hobbseejehnx: post your /etc/fstab to pastebin please?05:00
noteventimeYou cant write to NTFS, and for the reading part05:00
Hobbseealso, df -h -T05:00
noteventimemom05:00
jehnxnoteventime: Yeh, all I want to do is read from it so I can access my office files, music, etc.05:00
noteventimeadd these options fmask=0111,dmask=0000,uid=0,gid=0,auto,ro,users05:01
noteventimein fstab05:01
noteventimehere is my full windows line:05:01
noteventime /dev/sda1 /windows/ ntfs fmask=0111,dmask=0000,uid=0,gid=0,auto,ro,users 0 005:01
Hobbseeits' definetly ntfs?05:02
Hobbseejehnx: my windows line is this:  /dev/hda1       /media/windows  ntfs    nls=utf8,ro,user,umask=000 0       005:02
Hobbseenoteventime: that looks way more complicated than needed..05:02
noteventimeMight be05:03
noteventime:D05:03
Hobbseehehe05:03
noteventimeLooks like some persmission stuff05:03
jehnxYeh, mine doesn't even had the sda2 one05:03
noteventimeI got it from somewere else so I didn't want to mess with it05:03
jehnxHow can I open as root?05:04
jehnxIt wo'nt let me save otherwise05:04
Hobbseesudo nano /etc/fstab05:05
noteventime!ntfs05:05
uboturumour has it, ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions05:05
noteventime^- did you take a look at that?05:05
Hobbseeor kdesu kate /etc/fstab05:05
jehnxnope, didn't05:05
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DannyHobbsee, can a creative zen work with amarok or any other proggie?05:06
Hobbseegot no idea05:06
noteventimeAnyway, its getting late (5 AM) -_- --zzZZ bye people05:06
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Wizz_Kiddany of you use cedega05:07
jehnxK, did that, let's see if it works.05:07
jehnxThanks folks.05:07
Hobbseejehnx: yep, sudo mount -a05:07
HobbseeWizz_Kidd: ask in #cedega05:07
Wizz_Kiddi seee05:07
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Wizz_Kiddi was just gonna ask if it cost money :P05:08
Dannycan I run gnome apps on KDE?05:08
Hobbseeyes it does05:08
HobbseeDanny: yes05:08
Dannyyay05:08
HobbseeDanny: and you can run kde apps on gnome, and xfce apps on either, etc, etc, etc05:08
koshyou can run any of the apps in any of the environments05:08
Dannyok thanks05:09
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jehnxWhere would it be after I ran that program?05:10
jehnxI don't see any new /mnt directories05:10
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jehnxn/m05:11
jehnxI found it, under /media05:11
Hobbseeyay :)05:11
jehnxThanks guys for your help!  :)05:11
Hobbseenot a problem05:12
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jehnxActually, n/m, it mounted one of them and the other one is still root-only05:13
jehnxeff.05:13
jehnxTwo partitions are on it, one is the HP "drive recovery" crap, and the other is the one I want.. the one I want is the one taht won't change.05:13
jehnxlet me try to modify it manually as you guys suggested05:14
Hobbseeprobably a good idea05:14
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chrisi want to dual boot, but after i installed ubuntu, windows won't boot. is it easier to install ubuntu first?05:19
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jehnxI get this when I try to chown05:22
jehnxjehnx@r253240100:~$ sudo chown jehnx /media/sda205:22
jehnxchown: changing ownership of `/media/sda2': Read-only file system05:22
jehnxBut it doesn't change any ownership05:23
_bbeckjehnx: You can't change the mode of a read-only filesystem.05:24
jehnxCan I change the read-ability of it, though?05:25
jehnxI jsut want a user to be able to access it05:25
nrdbI am using a gtk list view to create widget, it has three columns, is it posible to get columns one and three fixed width with the center column variable?05:26
_bbeckjehnx: what are the permissions of /media/sda2?05:33
jehnx"total 0"05:34
jehnx_bbeck, that's all it says when I sudo ls -l05:34
jehnxn/m, sudo asl gives me: drwxr-xr-x05:34
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Dannyanyone here?06:18
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`m5mI have one Kdm session that's not allowing me to click or type... it's frozen to my input... locked up when I was trying to right-click move a file... any thoughts on how to unfreeze it?06:29
mustard5is there any special instructions for playing mp3's in KDE?06:30
mustard5I've done it with gstreamer on gnome, but just curious how it works with KDE06:30
mustard5!mp306:31
Glin|JolWinamp  5.20 Stopped06:31
ubotuwell, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats06:31
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Ranmadoes anyone knows where i can get the Kernel 2.6.15-20.30 without upgrading to dapper?06:36
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Search4Lancerhello, having problems with installation of Breezy, anybody home?06:38
koshRanma: that won't work, that kernel version needs a new udev and other stuff so you can't just stick it in breezy06:38
koshRanma: if you just stick that kernel version in without upgrading all the other stuff it won't work06:38
koshSearch4Lancer: what is the problem?06:38
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Search4LancerI just installed it, and after the CD ejection and reboot, it hangs on Starting Hotplug Subsystem06:39
Search4Lancerhaven't been able to find anything of much help via Google06:39
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Ranmakosh: and what about if i use the kernel source from kernel.org im going to get the same result?06:39
koshRanma: yes you will get the same result, the kernel does have outside dependencies and if you don't meet them then bad things can happen06:43
koshRanma: mostly for you the bad things would be that drivers would not get loaded06:43
koshSearch4Lancer: how long does it hang on it? did you just install from the kubuntu breezy cd?06:43
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koshSearch4Lancer: what version? x86, x86-64 or ppc?06:43
Search4Lancerkosh: yes, just installed. have given it 5 minutes, have given it 10 minutes, have given it maybe even 15 minutes. x8606:44
Search4Lancerit looks like I just have to put "snd-hda-intel" into my hotplug blacklist, but I haven't a clue how to do that if I can't even boot06:46
Search4LancerI've also seen that I need to disable my speakers in the BIOS.... but I'd like to have sound without having to buy externals06:47
koshSearch4Lancer: hmm is there any opportunity to type something in before the system boots up? I don't remember if you can hit esc or something before it boots into linux, if so you can probably tell it to use recovery mode to boot up, that is usually a default option in grub which kubuntu uses06:49
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koshSearch4Lancer: if you could boot the system up and tell me what the system says before it does the starting linux part06:49
koshSearch4Lancer: sorry I don't have a box around here to reboot and see what it should say to explain it to you better, too much work to do that right now06:49
Search4Lancerrecovery mode is an option in grub, yes.... you want me to try recovery mode and see what happens?06:49
koshyes06:50
koshif that works you will be dropped at the command line06:50
koshand then you might be able to fix the problem06:50
Search4Lanceralrighty06:50
koshif that does not work I will see if I can come up with a better idea however it may not be very fast06:50
Search4Lancerwait..... I'm pretty much of a n00b, haven't been using linux much since I can never connect at my house nor my apartment.... how would I add "snd-hda-intel" to that blacklist file?06:51
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koshSearch4Lancer: good question, I don't know and would have to look it up, I have never had to blacklist something06:53
Search4Lancerwell it's a matter of editing a file from command line, how would i do that (if ya know)?06:53
koshsorry I have a lot of work I need to get done so I can't take the time to look that up buy maybe you could google for "blacklist driver hoptlug linux" or "blacklist driver udev linux"06:54
koshhmm for you I would use nano /path/to/file/to/edit06:54
koshif nano is not installed do sudo apt-get install nano06:54
kev1nHDIO_GETGEO failed: Invalid argument is the error message i get when i attempt to install DMA06:54
koshand you might need to do sud nano /path/to/file/to/edit06:54
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koshkev1n: install DMA what do you mean?06:54
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kev1nkosh:. i was having some audio problems so a good friend suggested i install DMA06:55
koshkev1n: yeah but how did you try to install dma?06:56
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koshkev1n: at least on any linux kernel from the past few years it will turn on the highest dma mode that it can figure out06:56
kev1nOK.... i will keep trying... tahnks for trying kosh06:57
kev1ni will google for it as you are busy!06:57
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Search4Lancerwell this is just friggin great.....07:08
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exsanet#semarang07:14
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=== Search4Lancer is so pissed now
koshgetting upset rarely makes a problem better :)07:19
Search4Lancermeh07:19
Search4LancerI prefer it that way, though07:19
Search4Lancerhttp://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=4523.007:20
Search4Lancermy results07:20
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koshSearch4Lancer: what is the last thing the system does for recovery mode?07:26
koshSearch4Lancer: there is another way you can try, if you can use one of the live cds you can use that to be able to edit the file on the hard drive07:26
Search4Lancersays that it can't load (or maybe it was find) the driver for snd-hda-intel07:27
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koshhowever a live breezy cd is not a good idea since it would end up with the same problem07:27
koshI would use a live knoppix cd07:27
koshsince it does not matter which you use to edit the file we want to use something different then what has the problem :)07:27
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Search4Lancerright07:28
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thoreauputicthoreauputic just learnt to type backwards07:32
thoreauputicamazing thing, linux... such useful scripts07:32
thoreauputic*grin*07:32
Search4Lancerthis is my last blank CD, so it damn well better work :-)07:33
koshyeah otherwise it might cost $2 to get another 30 or so CDs ;)07:34
koshit certainly sounds like you are getting hit with a very strange bug though07:34
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koshI have not seen that kind of problem before07:34
Search4Lancerand since the downstairs computer has been turned off, I'm stuck downloading it via wireless, which at latest estimate will take 3 hours07:36
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koshwhy can't you turn the comptuter on?07:36
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Search4Lancertoo much work :-) actually, because that would give away the fact that I am awake, and I don't want my mom waking up any time soon and pissing me off by asking me how my grades are, and then having the computer conveniently there so she can tell me to get on the school's website and bring up my grades, at which point the "we don't have our midterm grades yet" line will no longer work07:39
Search4Lancerand I really have no problem with it taking another 2 and a half hours, as I'll be up late into the night playing poker anyway.... so, I really might as well fire up PartyPoker right now.07:39
kev1nhahahah07:39
Search4Lanceroh, you liked that huh? :-)07:40
koshSearch4Lancer: ah so your grades are not very good and you are playing games and staying up late07:42
koshI can see why your mom would be upset07:42
koshso many of the things just don't seem important in high school but you will regret not working harder on it later07:42
Search4LancerI'm not in high school, dude07:42
koshcollege then07:42
Search4Lancerhttp://www.pct.edu07:42
kosheither way07:42
koshah trade school07:43
Search4Lancerno07:44
Search4Lancernot trade school07:44
Search4Lancerit's a college07:44
koshit looks like one from the website07:44
koshhowever the website I can't get to work very well, the javascript menus are screwed up07:44
Search4Lancerdespite the name, the "College" part of the name is the most important part07:44
Search4Lancerwe're the second largest Penn State campus07:45
Search4Lancerunfortunately, the college is also full of morons.07:49
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juse#ubuntu+108:12
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DjDarkmanhy i had a power outage and now my fat32 partitions are mounted read only and probably have errors ,what should i do?08:54
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[nige] anyone able to get firefox and mplayer to work happily with each other08:54
[nige] ?08:54
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blindmosesanyone got time to hekp a noob?09:31
blindmoses*help09:31
blindmosesgot given an old laptop, installed kubuntu, it plays system sounds but not mp3s. can anyone help?09:33
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Hobbseeblindmoses: breezy or dapper?09:34
blindmosesbreezy09:34
Drumornin09:34
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Hobbsee!tell blindmoses about mp309:35
Hobbseehi Druidor09:35
blindmosesmessage i get when opening an mp3 in a new tab in konq is: can't init audio driver 'alsasink' - trying another one...09:37
blindmosesfollowed by: no usable audio-driver found (alsasink)09:38
blindmosesboth error messages play sound09:38
crimsunblindmoses: in kde system settings, what is the audio system set to?09:38
blindmoseschecking....09:39
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blindmosesunder sound and multimedia?09:41
Hobbseeblindmoses: yeah09:44
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fatejudgerme2win: OMG!?!?!?09:44
me2winfatejudger: zomg!09:44
fatejudgerlol09:44
blindmoseshardware tab: audio device is set to autodetect09:44
fatejudgeris there a way to edit packages?09:45
fatejudgeras in what files they install09:45
me2winfatejudger: hit it with a wrench and call it names09:47
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StarZenDlol09:48
Search4Lancernice09:48
blindmoseswill check back later...09:52
StarZenDis there an easily available kde games package?09:55
zerodnilike kde-amusements09:56
StarZenDoo, thanks09:57
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DruidorI am slowly getting to grips with Linux10:00
StarZenDi had that feeling once.. *sob*10:02
Druidorupgrading KDE seems to be beyond my skills atm10:02
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Druidorbut got the important things done, Firewall Frozen Bubble lol10:02
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zerodniDruidor how is upgradeing kde hard if you are doing the upgraded packages from kubuntu then just apt-get dist-upgrade in the command line and your good to go10:12
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kev1ndruidor has left this server10:15
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RanmaHi everyone10:22
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RanmaI have an ati radeon card, and i want to know if its posible to use the tv out feature with driver included in ubuntu (ati or radeon)10:24
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Search4Lanceranyone happen to know if there's a way to play PartyPoker under Linux? :-D10:35
Search4LancerI wouldn't want to have to switch to XP every time10:36
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davixcan some one paste me his sources.list for flight 6?10:54
Search4Lancersay, uh.... I just got done burning my Knoppix CD, and it got to 100%, then said there was a burn error, but it appears to be working ok, it opened up the Knoppix help file when I stuck it back in under XP...... safe to try booting on it?10:56
stiandavix coming in on /msg10:56
davixthanks stian10:56
Search4Lancermeh I think I'll go for it.... sick of all the work I've had to do on this10:59
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nico8481hi11:10
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Search4Lancerquit11:16
Search4Lancerwoops11:16
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martinjh99Morning...  Whats happened to the gstreamer engine for amarok in Flight6..?  How do I now get mp3 playback...?11:23
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Tm_Tmartinjh99: xine engine11:24
Tm_T!mp311:24
Glin|JolWinamp  5.20 Stopped11:24
ubotusomebody said mp3 was a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats11:24
Tm_TGlin|Jol: stupid joke11:24
Tm_TGlin|Jol: actually no joke at all11:24
martinjh99Ahh reading that page - It's a different package in Dapper... ;)  Thanks all11:25
Tm_Tmartinjh99: np11:25
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[krispo] ken me puede a ayudarr11:52
[krispo] a  instalar lime wire en ubuntuu11:52
tsdgeos!es11:52
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.11:52
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Isil`Zhahow can i install php5 while using apache rather than apache2?11:59
foobarwhy do you want that?12:00
Isil`Zhato match my server setup12:00
foobarhmm, just try it12:00
foobaruse apt-get apache php512:01
foobaror something12:01
Isil`Zhai did...12:01
foobarbut it didn't work?12:01
Isil`Zhait asks to install apache212:01
foobarhm, thats bad12:01
Isil`Zhayes...12:01
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nico8481what font should I use to display chinese characters correctly?12:03
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foobarhttp://doc.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/desktopguide/C/ch05s01.html#fonts12:06
foobar@ nico848112:07
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martinjh99How do you get Thunderbird to open Firefox when you click on links..?  At the moment is opening Konq which is fine but I'd prefer Firefox to open though...12:08
me2wingo to system preferences12:09
me2winsystem settings12:09
me2winthen under user account12:09
me2windefault application12:10
StarZenDhas anyone use jabber jingle in this OS?12:10
martinjh99Yeah did that - Still not happening though...12:10
nico8481foobar: thx12:11
Isil`Zhahow can i install php5 while using apache rather than apache2? (sorry if i missed proposals right now i had some crash...)12:11
me2winwhy wouldnt you use apache2?12:11
RomanKhm... i hope dapper will still use ivman, not this stupid kde-pmounter12:12
martinjh99Roman I'm using Dapper - How can I tell so that I can tell you... ;)12:12
RomanKmartinjh99: ps aux | grep ivman12:12
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RomanKafter you logged in to kde12:12
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me2winit uses ivman12:12
RomanKgreat! because the kde12:13
RomanKoops12:13
nxv_hi12:13
yanishow do I configure the profiles in konqueror?12:13
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RomanKbecause the kde-mounter really sucks... you can only use it properly with KDE-apps12:13
nxv_i want to do something like a newspaper for my grandma's birthday. is there any better programm than latex for this job?12:14
martinjh99nxv try scribus...12:14
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Isil`Zhame2win: sorry missed your question. because it wouldn't match my server setup. but shouldn't the question rather be: why should i be forced to use apache2?12:24
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flofhello everyone12:34
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Bluekujahello :)12:35
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flofdoes anyone have a pointer or a hint on using an audio card on another networked pc for output?12:35
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flofi have a laptop and a desktop both running kubuntu dapper12:35
floflaptop should play audio over the stereo hooked up to the desktop12:36
Isil`Zhaso am i forced to use apache2 if i want to have php5 as an apache module in ubuntu?12:36
flofmostly from amarok and xine12:36
carmenhi. it's the first time i've installed kubuntu and i'm having trouble running any programs that require root access (such as adept). the error i get is "su returned with an error". can someone help me?12:36
cfraz89flog: amarok has a server built-in12:37
flofcarmen, try sudo12:37
cfraz89that you can use to stream audio to other computers12:37
flofcfraz: wow12:37
Bluekujaor change root pwd12:37
flofdidnt see that12:37
Bluekujaand then su root12:37
flofthanks a lot12:37
carmensudo works, but i want to be able to run the programs from the shortcuts in the k menu. (this pc is my mothers and she doesn't know how to use the console at all, i'm trying to make it as user friendly as possible)12:38
Bluekujaremember that if synaptic is running you cant start programs that requires root access12:38
Bluekujao so when u start a program from a shortcut12:38
carmenyes12:38
Bluekujait gives an error12:39
carmeni tried to change the root password12:39
carmenthey were initially the same...12:39
Bluekujafile permissions?12:39
carmenroot and user password that is12:39
cfraz89np :)12:39
foobarcarmen: use kdesu program in the k menu12:39
foobare.g. kdesu adept12:39
foobarwell that doesnt make sense but its an example ^^12:40
Bluekuja^^12:40
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cfraz89flof: lol i cant find it myself12:41
cfraz89it used to have one12:41
carmenfoobar: i tried running kdesu adept in the console, i got that "please enter you password" prompt, i entered MY password and it thinks it's incorrect. i also tried the root password, same thing12:41
flofthere's an option for a http streaming proxy in the engine tab of the settings dialog12:42
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cfraz89oh12:43
cfraz89thanks12:43
Bluekujacarmen12:43
Bluekujaare you sure that the root pwd is correct?12:43
Bluekujahave you changed it in users menu?12:43
carmenyes, it works with "su -" in the console12:43
carmeni changed it using passwd12:44
cfraz89isnt that just if you use a proxy server?12:44
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Bluekujammm...thats strange12:44
Bluekujaand if u do su youraccount12:44
Bluekujapwd12:44
Bluekujait works?12:45
Bluekujafromk bash of course12:45
flofi'm just digging through amarok help to find it out12:45
cfraz89oh ok12:45
carmenroot@ubuntu:~# su carmen12:45
carmencarmen@ubuntu:/root$12:45
cfraz89i remember when the scripts manager was new12:45
cfraz89there was a script which streamed out what amarok was playing12:45
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stiancfraz89: hey, thanks for your help yesterday, now the fan is really doing nicely, running pretty much as infrequently as in windows :)12:46
cfraz89sian: cool!12:46
cfraz89*stian lol12:47
cfraz89np12:47
Bluekujaand if you put the same pwd12:47
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Bluekujawhen u start the program12:47
Bluekujait doesnt work12:47
stian:)12:47
Bluekuja?12:47
carmenBluekuja: it doesn't12:47
cfraz89flof: found it12:47
Bluekujathats really strange12:47
cfraz89http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=2217012:47
Bluekujayour root pwd is the same of carmen user?12:48
flofcfraz, you're great12:48
flofthanks a lot!12:48
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carmenBluekuja: it's different12:48
cfraz89lol np12:48
Bluekujatry to put the same12:48
carmenok12:49
Bluekujaand then start the program12:49
carmenBluekuja: conversation with su failed12:50
carmen:/12:50
Bluekujago to the kde interface12:50
Bluekujafor users12:50
Bluekujausers and groups12:50
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Bluekujaand change the 2 pwds from there12:51
Bluekujaput the same12:51
carmeni need admin mode, and i get the same error12:51
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carmenif i restart kde, will it be any good?12:51
Bluekujammmm....12:51
Bluekujatry12:51
Bluekuja^^12:51
carmenok, brb12:51
Bluekujak12:51
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cfraz89flof: if it doesnt work12:52
cfraz89you could always use the web control script12:52
cfraz89to use the laptop to control the desktop's amark12:52
flofOr just stick with vnc ;-)12:53
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cfraz89nah12:54
cfraz89amarok owns all lol12:54
cfraz89i dont like vnc12:54
cyberserverHi people. I'm facing problems booting a flight6 cd. The boot cd is not recognized on my machine. I switched cd readers, and burned 2 images on different cdrw media just in case..12:54
cyberserver... I find this very strange as I use this same media for all my distro tests and they usually boot fine...12:55
cyberserver... and I can also boot this same cd in another machine... But I can also boot other cdimages (not kubuntu flight6) on my problematic machine12:56
cfraz89!w32codecs12:56
ubotuit has been said that w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install12:56
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Bluekujaafk 30 minutes12:57
cyberserverDo you know of anyone with similar problems?12:57
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cyberserveroops, sorry12:58
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flofcfraz, know the "networked sound" option in kde system settings --> sound and multimedia tab?01:01
cfraz89yeah01:01
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cfraz89all i know is you can pipe arts through a network01:02
cfraz89i never found out how though01:02
cfraz89ill try and dig it up01:02
slow-motionhallo01:02
cfraz89hi01:04
cfraz89oh01:04
cfraz89it just means that arts can play sound files from other computers01:04
cfraz89ie  artsplay /path/to/filename/on/server.wav01:04
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cfraz89actually01:05
cfraz89flof: check this out01:05
cfraz89http://www.arts-project.org/doc/mcop-doc/artsd-faq.html01:05
cfraz89and check the network transparency section01:06
cfraz89also nas sounds good01:06
cfraz89no i mean nmm sorry01:07
cfraz89nmm, and it has a good kde frontend01:08
cfraz89http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=3010001:08
flofcfraz, thats some great pointers01:09
cfraz89lol thanks01:09
flofi had a look at nas and it seemed a bit crude, but nmm looks very promising01:09
cfraz89im not totally sure that nmm is what you are looking for01:09
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cfraz89but it sounds good01:10
cfraz89yeah01:10
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Hobbseehey Kamping_Kaiser01:10
Kamping_Kaiserhi Hobbsee01:11
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paulvolkHello01:11
cfraz89hi01:11
paulvolkI was wondering, is there a place to get the .deb packege for KBFX?01:11
Kamping_Kaiserhi people01:11
paulvolkcan anyone help me?01:13
Hobbsee!+anyone01:15
ubotuprobably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>01:15
Hobbseeah.... is there one on kde-look.org?01:15
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Hobbseesorry, didnt see the question above01:15
nxv_does anyone know how to open an wps (works) file within linux?01:15
Kamping_Kaiserno go afaik01:16
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buzfor some reason, it doesnt show my printer in dapper01:16
buzkghostview does so, though01:16
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cfraz89stian: did kpowersave automatically handle your screen brightness too?01:26
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Hobbseecfraz89: it should...01:30
cfraz89yeah01:30
cfraz89it doesnt give me any settings though01:30
cfraz89it just handles it automatically01:30
cfraz89from /etc/powersave01:30
Hobbseeah01:31
Hobbseecfraz89: not even the brightness tab in configure kpowersave?01:31
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flixilI was not able to install kubuntu with the kubuntu dapper installer because it detects my hd as 60GB and it has only 32GB... I installed a Debian Sarge and changed the sources.list and dist-upgraded... May it result in a good instalation?01:39
flixilI made a minimal instalation with a net-install cd01:39
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_manu38_Hello01:45
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_manu38_Could you know Proftpd ?01:45
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Hobbseeflixil: it may...but it's risky01:46
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_ravnhey all. I need an easy guide to install codec for .avi . I have been searching google for days now! I'm running Kubuntu on an Imac01:47
stian_oh no, I made the little handles on the thingies on my panel disappear last night, and now the windowlist is way off, and I can't remember what I did to hide the handles :P Anyone know?01:47
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_manu38_How know the name server because I have an error : Fatal: ServerName: directive not allowed in <global> context on line 10601:47
_ravnstian_: Im not sure what u meant, but tjek the lower right cornor for an "arrow" and push it01:48
stian_yeah, the arrows are missing01:48
_ravnHmm01:49
stian_so are the handlebars that the arrow is supposed to be attached to01:49
_ravncan't help ya then01:49
stian_I removed them on purpose, it was a checkbox somewhere, but I can't remember where :P lol01:49
stian__ravn: no worries, I'll figure it out with time :) or someone else might know :p01:49
_ravnstian_: okay mate _=01:50
_ravn:)01:50
_ravnBtw, do u know anything about me problem?01:50
_ravnmy*01:50
Hobbseestian_: right click on kicker,01:50
stian__ravn: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats might give you a solution01:51
Hobbseeconfigure panel, appearance, advanced options01:51
_ravnI need an easy way to install codecs, to watch .avi01:51
_ravnohh01:51
stian_Hobbsee: no advanced options in appearance01:51
Hobbseestian_: bottom left?01:51
stian_Hobbsee: sorry, there they are01:51
Hobbsee:P01:51
Hobbseeyou had me worried there for a second lol!01:52
flixilHobbsee: oks01:52
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stian_Hobbsee: thanks :)01:52
Hobbseenot a problme01:52
flixildo you know the option to pass to apt-get to update the e2fsprogs?01:52
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stian_Hobbsee: hehe, what had happened was really that I had System Settings open when doing what you said, so there weren't any options at all01:53
flixilit says it's risky to upgrade and you have to pass a low level option to do it01:53
Hobbseeah yep01:53
_ravnPackage gstreamer0.8-mad is not available, but is referred to by another package.01:53
_ravnThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or01:53
_ravnis only available from another source01:53
_ravnE: Package gstreamer0.8-mad has no installation candidate01:53
Hobbseei thought it would be in system settings too01:53
Hobbsee!info gstreamer0.8-mad01:53
stian__ravn: do you have universe/multiverse enabled?01:53
ubotugstreamer0.8-mad: (MAD MPEG audio decoder plugin for GStreamer), section universe/libs, is optional. Version: 0.8.11-0ubuntu5 (breezy), Packaged size: 54 kB, Installed size: 144 kB01:53
Hobbsee_ravn: you on dapper or breezy?01:53
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_ravnTried dapper also.. I am "the newest" for Imac.. :)01:54
_ravnand dont know about the universe/multi thing01:54
stian_I have a "feeling" that firefox uses more memory than konqueror, could I be correct?01:54
Hobbsee!info gstreamer0.8-mad dapper01:54
ubotugstreamer0.8-mad: (MAD MPEG audio decoder plugin for GStreamer), section universe/libs, is optional. Version: 0.8.12-1ubuntu1 (dapper), Packaged size: 56 kB, Installed size: 148 kB01:54
Hobbsee_ravn: it should be there, if you have multiverse/universe enabled01:55
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Hobbseestian: yeah, that's probably true01:55
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_ravntjekking it out. hold plz01:55
stianHobbsee: okay, is there any native browser for kde using the gecko engine? such as epiphany in gnome?01:55
Kamping_KaiserHobbsee: dapper should use 0.1001:55
HobbseeKamping_Kaiser: both are in repos.  i dont use gstreamer at all01:56
Kamping_KaiserHobbsee: no, so i'm telling you ;)01:56
Hobbseetrue01:56
Hobbseewiki still refers to 0.801:56
Kamping_Kaiserquite probably. the wiki sucks a bit in that it's trying to support 3 or 4 Ubuntu's at the same time, on one page :/01:58
nxv_i trie to play arround with scribus, but when i insert some text it displays only squarres. does anybody know how to get it working?01:58
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Hobbseehehe that is true01:59
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paulvolkHow would I go about extracting and compiling a .tar.gz file?01:59
Hobbsee!+compile01:59
ubotuA nice howto about compiling software from source code can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (but remember to search !apt first, after adding all the !repos)01:59
Kamping_Kaiser<3 apt-source02:00
_ravnIts breezy badger ppc version02:00
_ravnand I cant change the line02:00
Kamping_Kaiserwhat line?02:01
stian_ravn: did you sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list02:01
stianI think a line in sources.list02:01
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stiantrying to add universe/multiverse yes?02:02
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Kamping_Kaiserstian: ok02:02
Kamping_Kaiser_ravn: what are you at so far?02:02
_ravnI'm at the "Now, add "multiverse" into the Components section of all repositories which mentioned "universe". To do this," part02:03
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_ravnhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto02:03
Kamping_Kaiserand what happened?02:03
_ravnWhen I rename that line, its "undos"02:04
_ravnIt doesn't save02:04
carmendid you click apply _ravn ?02:04
carmensame thing happened to me 5 mins ago ;)02:05
_ravnI dont get that option. I select the line, rename it, and press enter02:05
_ravnlol, now it worked..02:06
_ravnmy bad, didnt press enter the other times, but merely e?elected the other line. (like when u rename folders in windoze) :)02:06
carmenbbl02:07
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Kamping_Kaiserwd02:08
_ravnty! now it worked02:08
lwelyni have a problem with video streaming. it lags if i use it...(with mplayer, realplayer etc )02:11
Kamping_Kaiserlaggy connection?02:12
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nxv_is anyone using scribus here? i am not abel to insert text into text boxes. just doesn't react on hitting character keys. numbers are inserted02:13
lwelynno02:13
lwelynKamping_Kaiser:  6 mbs02:13
Kamping_Kaiserlwelyn: probably codec probelms, but i cant realy help with them02:16
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_ravnI dont understand why there is no easier way to install mplayer - like gaim for instance02:20
_ravnand firefox02:20
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_ravnKamping_Kaiser: I got breezy on a ppc, do u know an easy shortcut like that also?02:23
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Kamping_Kaisermplayer-g4 IIRC02:24
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_ravnhuh?02:24
_ravnIrc channel, or command?02:24
Kamping_Kaisersudo apt-get install mplayer-g402:25
Kamping_Kaisershould be in multiverse, might have depends in universe02:25
Kamping_Kaiserbrb02:25
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vijayhi all, how to change default display manager??02:28
noteventimeIs there someone here who knows how to manually get the i810 drivers and comile them from subversion/cvs?02:28
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lwelyni still need help with my video(streaming)02:29
noteventimevijay, kdm or gdm?02:30
vijaygdm02:30
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vijaynoteventime, gdm02:30
noteventimei think sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg02:30
noteventimeYou should get a screen where you can choose02:30
noteventimelwelyn, Breezy or dapper?02:31
vijaynoteventime, no, there is another command, but i forgot that02:31
lwelynnoteventime: i use dapper02:31
noteventimeso you use xine?02:31
lwelynnoteventime: of course yes. the problem appears everywhere02:31
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lwelynnoteventime: i mean its no specificied on mplayer or real plyer...02:31
noteventimeWhat is your problem then?, i doubt that i can help you though02:32
lwelynthe video lags everywhere02:32
mangustaI installed kubuntu by apt-get, using the instructions on the website02:32
lwelynit lags...like i play it on a 386er Oo02:32
noteventimeHave you tried installing w32codecs?02:32
lwelynnoteventime: i installes all the codex02:32
lwelynnoteventime: i installed02:32
mangustaafter it installed, it worked, howerver, the kwindecoretion.la module was missing02:32
lwelynnoteventime: i installed the libxine-extracodex too02:32
noteventimeMy brother had the same kind of problems with alla video files, linxine-extracodecs and w32codecs helped02:33
noteventimes/alla/all02:33
lwelynnoteventime: well..so you thing reinstall them might help ?02:33
mangustaand there were no window title bars, and I was unable to drag windows around, or alt-tab etc...02:33
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noteventimelwelyn, I'm sorry but I don't know, are you uing the right video drivers?02:33
mangustabut, I can't install or reinstall the kcontrol or kwin packages, and I have tries d to remove kubuntu, but it isn't cooperating02:33
noteventimemangusta, try sudo apt-get install kwin02:34
noteventimeahh :)02:34
lwelynnoteventime: glxgears show me 3900 frames per second. thats enough. ( its the same as under breezy )02:34
noteventimeWhat card are you using?02:34
mangustathat failed on deps, said it was held back?02:34
noteventimeYou installed from ubuntu mangusta?02:34
lwelyni use ati radeion mobile 970002:34
mangustayeah, 5.102:35
noteventimemangusta try a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade02:35
mangustaI have since tried to remove kubuntu-desktop02:35
noteventimelwelyn, Hehe, trust me I have similar problems although I'm on an Intel card I only get 1300fps02:35
mangustaand now, when I try to install it again02:36
mangustaI get about 50 : Depends: adept02:36
mangustais there a way to force it to install the dependancies?02:36
noteventimeTry installing the dependencies02:36
noteventimemanually02:36
noteventimefrom the console02:37
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noteventimeProbably there is one package or two that is causing the problem02:37
mangustai am, but most come up with:  kwin: Depends: kdelibs4c2 (>= 4:3.5.2) but it is not going to be installed02:37
mangustaE: Broken packages02:37
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lwelynnoteventime: well i try to uninstall compeltly all. and then reinstall it02:37
noteventimetry sudo apt-get install kdelibs4c202:37
_ravnKamping_Kaiser: dude, i think that worked. Im am truly grateful!02:37
noteventimelwlyn, I'm sorry but I'm out of ideas, try that02:37
mangustakdelibs4c2: Depends: libavahi-client1 (>= 0.5.2) but it is not installable02:38
noteventimethat try to install that02:38
mangustaand a couple of other libavahi- libs02:38
Kamping_Kaiser_ravn: great to hear.02:38
noteventimeSe were it comes to something were it wants to uninstall02:38
mangustasays it is not available02:38
noteventimeWhat about your sources.list?02:38
lwelynnoteventime: er...how can i unistal a pakage if it seems not be there?02:38
noteventimelwelyn, which one? :S02:39
lwelynlixinerama1 ...i cant deinstall it02:39
noteventimemangusta, Pastebin your sources.list02:39
mangustaonly thing changed is: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35 breezy main02:39
mangustaok02:39
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mangustanoteventime, http://pastebin.com/64935302:41
noteventimemangusta, try enabling universe and multiverse02:41
_ravnError - new_face failed. Maybe the font path is wrong. Please supply the text font file (~/.mplayer/subfront.ttf).02:41
noteventimeI can give you mine02:41
_ravnKamping_Kaiser:)02:42
mangustawill try02:42
noteventimemangusta, I'll modify mine for the right country and breezy02:42
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noteventimemangusta, try this one http://pastebin.com/64935602:44
mangustaok, I'll try with multiverse + universe first, and then run yours if I get nowhere, thanks for the help noteventime02:46
noteventimenp, hope it helps :)02:46
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barit is said that you should never ever hit the reset button in linux - but what shall I do if everything crashed?02:48
barthe key combos dont work either02:49
mangustatry ctrl-alt-f102:49
barwont work02:49
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mangustabugger02:49
mangustahard drive light on?02:49
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bari'll look at it next time02:49
mangustaie, is something happening, or is it just stopped02:49
elijahlofgrenbar: I had a hard lock up yesterday. I had to hit the reset button and all was fine when I rebooted.02:50
baryeah, i did it a few times now but all is fine02:50
mangustacause things like firefox can bring the smackdown on your machine, make it look like it's frozen02:50
barwell i think it was amarok cause i just focused it and everything frozed - even the musik02:50
barthat was in a loop02:51
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mangustauhuh02:51
mangustanoteventime, trying to install kubuntu-desktop now just asks for kdegraphics-kfile-plugins02:52
noteventime?02:52
noteventimeYou have the others installed maybe?02:52
mangustawhich won't install as it needs a dep, which needs a dep, libpoppler0c2-qt: Depends: libpoppler0c2 (= 0.4.2-0ubuntu6) but 0.4.2-0ubuntu6.6 is to be installed02:52
Somefilenamemangusta, Use aptitude to install it - it's better for dependencies.02:53
mangustalibpoppler0c2 is already the newest version.02:53
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mangusta  libpoppler0c2-qt: Depends: libpoppler0c2 (= 0.4.2-0ubuntu6) but 0.4.2-0ubuntu6.6 is installed.02:56
mangustabut, aptitude install libpoppler0c202:56
Hobbseemangusta: breezy or dapper?02:57
mangustaNo packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.02:57
mangustabreezy02:57
Somefilenamemangusta, apt-get -f install02:57
mangustaand aptitude show libpoppler0c2 says it is installed02:57
SomefilenameSee if that works.02:57
Hobbseemangusta: file a bug report for it?02:57
Somefilenamemangusta, Remove it and reinstall it.02:57
mangustano, not sure if it is a bug yet02:57
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SomefilenameHobbsee, That is the last version - don't know if there's a patch for it.02:58
Hobbseeno, there wont be.  i was considering writing a patch.02:58
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SomefilenameHobbsee, Would be a great idea if we knew what's the problem with it...02:59
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mangustaok, well, i removed and reinstalled libpoppler0c203:00
Somefilenamemangusta, See if it works now.03:00
HobbseeSomefilename: deps on   libpoppler0c2-qt are wrong - libpoppler0c2 should either depend on  (>= 0.4.2-0ubuntu6) or  (= 0.4.2-0ubuntu6.6)03:00
mangustabut aptitude install libpoppler0c2-qt03:00
mangustastill says:  libpoppler0c2-qt: Depends: libpoppler0c2 (= 0.4.2-0ubuntu6) but 0.4.2-0ubuntu6.6 is installed.03:00
SomefilenameHmmm...03:01
mangustaso, the 6 vs 6.6 is the problem?03:01
Hobbseeyes03:01
mangustaok, any reason why i cant force it, are 6 and 6.6 that different?03:01
Hobbseeyes, and yes03:02
mangustaokies03:02
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Hobbseemangusta: asking on how to fix it...03:03
mangustacool03:03
mangustathanks03:03
Hobbseegrr...devs are asleep...lol03:04
barhmm, i got a problem with my locales or with my keyboard config. can't use special chars in some kde programs. it works in firefox, kdissert but not in kopete, amarok and more... (e.g. ??)03:07
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mangustabugger03:09
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thorHow do I get the trash can back on the desktop?03:10
barwell... dunno if you saw my post with the locales, but that fucked my kopete history up...03:10
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mangustaheh03:10
mangustawe did03:11
mangustawondered why you dissappeared03:11
Somefilenamebar, Use Konversation or XChat.03:11
barI couldnt see no posts anymore, cause kopete disclaimed about some coding problems ^^03:11
barSomefilename: its not only kopete03:11
barthe specialchars in my konsole are broken too03:11
bari tried locales and dkpg-reconfigure and more03:12
barbut cant get it working03:12
Somefilenamebar, Konsole > Settings > Keyboard.03:12
YaH00_03:12
ka_harmatrix.dal.net03:12
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barah, somefile that worked, my default encoding is wrong, where do I set that to utf8 ?03:13
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mangustaHobbsee, is there a later version of libpoppler0c2 which supports 0.4.2-0ubuntu6.6?03:14
mangustafrom the dapper release etc?03:14
Hobbseein breezy?  i doubt it03:14
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Somefilenamebar, Kcontrol > Apearence & Themes > Fonts.03:15
Hobbseedapper depends on 0.5, if i saw correctly03:15
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Hobbseeand no, dont even think of using the dapper version on breezy03:15
mangustaokies03:15
Hobbsee:P03:15
Hobbseejust in case you were wondering03:15
mangustadammit, i hate gnome03:15
AljoshaNLhey i cant install my printer "unable to retrieve the printer list"03:15
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barSomefilename: i can only change the fonts and the antialaising options there, but nothing about encodings?!03:16
SomefilenameBrb.03:16
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Somefilenamebar, I don't know about encoding - search the kcontrol.03:17
SomefilenameBrb now.03:17
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AljoshaNLhey i cant install my printer "unable to retrieve the printer list" "The ipp request failed for an unknown reason"03:17
barthanks anyway03:17
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AljoshaNLhow can I solve this problem?03:17
mangustaHobbsee, should I put in a bug?03:18
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mangustaor email someone with info?03:18
Hobbseemangusta: yeah03:18
mangustaok, will try03:18
Hobbseewrite a bug for it03:18
Hobbseedo you know where to put it?03:18
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cfraz89AlijoshaNL: that only appears until you install a printer03:18
cfraz89dont heed the message03:19
mangustaHobbsee, is this the right one to use?? https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/breezy/i386/libpoppler0c2/0.4.2-0ubuntu6.603:20
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mangustaif I download a deb file, how can I install it?03:21
Hobbseemangusta: no, it's the libpoppler0c2-qt03:21
Hobbsee!deb03:22
ubotuTo install a .deb file: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb  (but note that the program you want might be installable using !apt from the !repos)03:22
kaharmaakasar03:22
flixildpkg -i *.deb03:22
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Hobbseemangusta: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/poppler/+filebug03:25
mangustaHobbsee, this then: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/breezy/i386/libpoppler0c2-qt/0.4.2-0ubuntu6.603:25
Hobbseeif you could subscribe hobbsee@gmail to the bug, that'd be cool, too03:25
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lwelynsomebody knows how i can integrate kaffeine in my fire fox?03:25
Hobbseenah, you have to file the bug against the source package - not against the binary...03:25
Hobbseewhich makes it way harder03:25
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DeBertThey should fire the kubuntu theme designer. I just reinstalled, and i noticed the default look and theme is fucking ugly. It looks like a toy OS. Or is it me?03:27
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tristanmike!language03:27
ubotuPlease watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.03:27
elijahlofgrenDeBert: You mean the blue in Kubuntu Dapper?03:27
mangustaHobbsee, installing the -qt package for the 6.6 lib seems to be working03:28
DeBertelijahlofgren: I mean everything, it just doesn't look nice03:28
buzyeah dapper's default theme is fugly03:28
Hobbseemangusta: ah ok03:28
DeBertelijahlofgren: If you look at ubuntu, it's polished for excellence, kubuntu is ugly as hell03:28
Hobbseebuz: yeah, they know - most of it's being reworked03:28
mangustaI will see if this works, cause then I will submit bug, but the bug is that the req dont make the right ver of libpoppler install03:29
elijahlofgrenHobbsee: is the orange for Kubuntu a rumor or is it true?03:29
buzHobbsee: personally, i dont care much (my home overrides it after all) but people new to kubuntu surely react badly to it03:29
buzorange? OMG03:29
Hobbseeelijahlofgren: orange???   i hadnt heard of that one!  there is a wiki page about it somewhere...03:29
Hobbseemind you, i kinda like the orange in gnome03:29
elijahlofgrenlwelyn: Check out the kaffeine-mozilla package?03:29
Hobbseebuz: tell me about it...it was decided in the last meeting that it was terrible :P03:30
buzi think orange is only slightly better than pink myself03:30
lwelynelijahlofgren: it dont works. my ff opens all the stuff with MPlay...i deintalled this plugin..but it still do03:30
buzi dont entirely understand why the current theme got implemented at all03:30
Hobbseeooh pink!!!03:30
buzits hard to believe that there are people who think its good really03:30
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foobarhmm, concerning my encoding problem: i got a dead link in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11, locale links to ../../../lib/X11/locale (/usr/lib/X11/locale) but that folder does not exist03:31
foobarcould that be the problem?03:31
buzi can just think of pink kubuntu and slashdot03:31
buzthe commentary would involve a specific sexual preference, for sure03:31
elijahlofgrenAh, LOL the post I read is dated March 31, must have been an april fools joke: http://www.raphink.info/changing-styles03:31
tristanmikepink kubuntu, LOL03:31
Hobbseebuz: urgh!  dont remind me!03:31
elijahlofgrenlwelyn: I don't know then. You could use Konqueror, I just switched to it from Firefox yesterday.03:32
buz(i really really hate pink)03:32
Hobbseehehe03:33
DeBertKubuntu is the only decent KDE distro now, so they better make it good03:34
buzyes03:35
DeBerti'm sure all the devs work hard, but i just hate to see the default theme raped like this, sorry03:35
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buzi'd vote for embassy as default theme but that's not gonna fly ;)03:35
buzbut maybe one could have qtcurve in universe ;)03:36
buzmpf03:36
buzinstall kpowersave and lose kubuntu-desktop03:36
DeBertthe only thing gtk/gnome has over kde is the nicer themes. with kde its all blue/plastic/macosx-ish03:36
buzcause kubuntu-desktop insists on powernowd03:37
tristanmikeI think the pannel applets in Gnome are nicer too03:37
buzi think ubuntu gnome looks rather dull really03:37
DeBertyeah i think so to, but if you compare kde-look with gnome-look, than there is better stuff on the latter03:38
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theineIs it possible that Kwallet in Dapper is severly broken?03:40
foobarit works for me03:40
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theineCan you create new wallets and are you able to select a default wallet?03:41
HobbseeDeBert: yeah, we'll poke and prod till it looks sane, dont worry :P03:41
Hobbseetrying to figure out when the artwork freeze is on now...03:41
foobarnew wallet works03:42
theinefoobar: hmm, and you're using the latest Dapper?03:42
Hobbseebuz: can i have a link to embassy, if it's already in ubuntu?03:42
mangustaI like the gnome theme, it's a good look03:42
foobaryes03:42
mangustabut gnome is irritating to use03:42
theinefoobar: ok, it's time for me to purge ~/.kde I guess...03:42
DeBertHobbsee: I didn't mean to offend any devs on this channel, i just critisize because i care ;)03:42
Hobbseebuz: and yes, the kpowersave is annoying about that - i thought they fixed it03:42
theinefoobar: what about selecting a default wallet? does that work for you as well?03:43
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HobbseeDeBert: hehe not a problem - i think it's appaling too.  suggestions are useful - particularly if the package is already in ubuntu.03:43
Hobbseethat applies to backgrounds/themes/colours/icons/etc03:43
Hobbseesee, there are 2 problems here - either the devs have already customised, and so just leave the stuff as the defaults, or there's so many options, so the dev's just pick the least bad one...03:44
mangustawell, you think kubuntu looks bad to start with, you should try it when kwin is broken.....03:44
foobartheine: cant find any option for that03:44
Hobbseebut if we've got suggestions that people can look at and say "hey, that'd look good" - then that's way helpful03:44
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DeBertHobbsee: I have Modern System/Plastik/Redmond XP now, it looks pretty decent, at least more so than the other stuff that's build in by default in kde03:45
theinefoobar: right click on the tray icon -> Configure Wallet -> Automatic Wallet Selection03:45
cyberserverHi people. DO you know wich is the URL of the kubuntu dapper repository? http://archive.ubuntu.com/ only has ubuntu03:46
foobarseems to work, no error occured03:46
theinecyberserver: it has kubuntu packages as well03:46
cyberserverMy goal is to find a netboot image for kubuntu03:46
theinefoobar: and all your wallets are listed in the drop-down menu?03:46
HobbseeDeBert: screenshot of it?03:46
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Hobbsee!+bootsplash03:46
ubotuDo they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Hobbsee03:46
Hobbseedarn03:46
foobaryeah03:46
Hobbseecyberserver: that has kubuntu as well.03:47
theinefoobar: ok, thanks. good to know that it works for others03:47
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cyberservertheine, Hobbsee : Sorry, I'm not being able to find them there... only ubuntu :-(03:48
Hobbseecyberserver: (they're the same)03:48
DeBertHobbsee: Okay, i'll make one03:49
SomefilenameBrb.03:49
HobbseeDeBert: that'd be cool.  if it has a link on kde-look.org, that'd be useful too03:49
Hobbseeneat!03:49
HobbseeDeBert: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuArtwork03:49
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cyberserverHobbsee: Hmmmm... ubuntu +kubutu-desktop pakage, its your suggestion... ok..03:50
cyberserverSo.. maybe another question will help me: where is the manual appendix B.2.1 reffered in https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/+bug/16507/+index ?03:51
UbugtuMalone bug 16507 in debian-installer "Allow for Kubuntu Netboot" [Normal,Unconfirmed] 03:51
morrow!bioapi03:51
ubotuBugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, morrow03:51
morrow!fingerprint03:51
ubotuNo idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, morrow03:51
DeBertHobbsee: http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/444/screen8nu.png03:52
Hobbseecyberserver: huh?  kubuntu and ubuntu use the same repos03:52
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cyberserverI'm in the quest for what is reffered in that bug as "kubuntu.seed" file03:53
Hobbseenice :)03:53
DeBertHobbsee: Well, considering i reinstalled kubuntu 30min ago :)03:53
HobbseeDeBert: hehe - why'd you reinstall?03:53
DeBertHobbsee: I wanted to try the new kororaa for a while03:54
Hobbseeah...03:54
Hobbseedual boot?03:54
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cyberserverHobbsee: Hmm... yes... but.. different desktop metapackage I guess. Anyway, I'm looking for a way to get dapper flight6 in my machine, wich I'm having trouble with dapper flight6 image via cd... I would like to try netboot with pxe or usb pen to intall this...03:55
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Hobbseecyberserver: exactly.  and have you tried a flight 5 cd, and upgrade off that?03:55
Hobbseestrike!  i'm running out of space!03:55
DeBertHobbsee: That usplash in that link you gave used to be in dapper, its better than the current one03:55
Hobbseei know03:56
mangustadoes it matter which display manager i use? ubuntu + kubuntu-desktop03:56
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Hobbsee:P03:56
DeBertBut is kubunut recycling what's already out there on kdelook,etc Or are they gonna make something original?03:57
mangustaHobbsee, is there any particular pref for the display manager to run kde on? ie, should i run kdm cause i will use kde mostly?03:57
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Hobbseemangusta: *thinks*...hmmm....braindead...dont know the answer to that one03:57
mangustaokies03:57
HobbseeDeBert: current plan is something original, but i think it's a case of "whatever looks best"03:58
cyberserverHobbsee: I would, but I faced  this behaviour on the past:   For instance, when flight5 got out, dist-upgrading fligh4 do current would show me a different desktop whan I would get if I reainstalled from scratch... I supose the dist-upgrade defaults to keep old configs instead of overwriting in the new maintainer configs (wich makes sense) .... but I want to look at the current status of dapper...03:58
Hobbseecyberserver: true.  use a new user?03:58
Hobbseeor purge kubuntu-default-settings, then reinstall it?03:58
cyberserverHobbsee: Hmmmm... good point. Stupid of me. Thanks03:59
Hobbsee:P03:59
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Hobbsee*while03:59
DeBertMaybe i should get into theming, any good tutorials out there lol?03:59
Hobbseegot no idea - i dont theme04:00
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DeBertMaybe the community could collect some money to hire a top notch interface designer, i would donate for that :)04:01
mangustadon't do that, this still might break....04:01
mangusta!! ;)04:01
ubotumangusta: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/04:01
me2winxgl ftw04:01
mangustawoot, kubuntu installed04:01
mangustabbl, must reboot to kde ness04:02
Hobbseehehe04:02
mangustaalright, bbl, hopefully with good news ;)04:02
foobar_anyone has a good howto / tutorial for setting up a different bootsplash? (one thats working on dapper) or is that one allright? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto04:03
Hobbseefoobar_: i would assume that one works, yes04:04
foobar_ok, I'll try it04:06
foobar_thanks04:06
me2winHobbsee: have you gotten xgl working in kubuntu?04:06
Hobbseebut i'd see the bottom link first, to see what they say..04:06
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Hobbseeme2win: havent tried04:06
me2winI got it working but now I need to know how to configure it =/04:06
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DeBertxgl is a pain in the ass on kubuntu04:06
Hobbseeit is on ubuntu as well, dont worry :P04:06
edulixit's a pain in the ass in old graphic cards04:06
DeBertme2win: i tried kororaa 0.2, it's the easiest way to get xgl painlessly on kde/gnome04:06
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edulixDeBert: which graphic card?04:06
leilahi, can i ask sth?04:06
SomefilenameOfcourse you can, leila.04:06
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me2winDeBert: ive gotten it on kde already, just wanted to see if there was a config file for it so I can mess with the effects etc04:06
DeBertedulix: Radeon 9800Pro and Nvidia 680004:07
leilai wanted to install such a kde app a cube game04:07
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leilaThe QtGui library >= 4.0.0 could not be found.04:07
Somefilenameleila, Install QtGui using adept.04:07
edulixmine is04:07
leilait says when i do ./config04:07
leilaconfigure04:07
leilai am not sure which qt library i need in synaptic04:07
edulixDeBert: mine is a Radeon Mobility 750004:07
Somefilenameleila, You are using Synaptic? In Kubuntu?04:08
DeBertedulix: It should work, check http://kororaa.org/ , it comes as a live cd, so you don't have to install anything at all04:08
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leilayes#04:09
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leilait works04:09
Somefilenameleila, Odd - anyways, install QtGui library and try to configure again.04:09
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mangustawoooo04:09
mangustait works04:09
mangustathanks for your help everyone04:09
leilais synaptic bad using in kubuntu?04:10
Hobbseemangusta: yay04:10
Hobbseeleila: no, it's fine - it just looks rather ugly :P04:10
edulixDeBert: only opensource drivers support my graphic card, it's a 4-5 y.o. laptop, if it works I'll be surprised04:10
DeBertAnybody got a clue when kopete 0.2 will appear in kubuntu? Can't wait cause VOIP with gtalk will be supported in that version. :)04:10
mangustanow, I just need to lodge a bug thingy so it can be sorted04:10
edulixI'll download the live04:10
leilahardcore kde--laughing04:10
HobbseeDeBert: you mean kopete 0.12?  ask Tm_T04:10
Hobbseehe has a separate repo for it, IIRC04:11
leilauses adept the same sources.list that synaptic uses? @SOMEfilename?04:11
DeBertHobbsee: yeah i meant 0.12 thx :)04:12
Hobbseeleila: yes04:12
Hobbseeleila: both are a GUI for apt-get04:12
DeBertedulix: those drivers should be in kororaa 0.204:12
Somefilenameleila, Yep - sorry, I was away a little.04:12
leilaok04:12
leilathank u guys04:12
DeBertedulix: it's worth a try, it'll only cost you some bandwidth ;)04:13
mangustaHobbsee, where should I put the bug? under the libpopper-qt? or for kubuntu-desktop?04:13
Hobbseemangusta: which one is this again?04:13
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Hobbseethe source package of libpopper-qt04:13
Hobbseeseeing as you cant file bugs against binaries04:13
SomefilenameBrb.04:14
Hobbseewhich, IIRC, is poppler - just make sure you mention it's for breezy04:14
Tm_T?04:15
Tm_Twhat04:15
HobbseeTm_T: kopete 0.12, DeBert wants it04:15
mangustabasically, for some reason, libpoppler-qt for 0.4.2-0ubuntu6.6 is not available for apt-get etc04:16
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DeBertHobbsee: lol thx, was afraid to ask  :D04:16
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mangustaso, when you try to install kubuntu, when you have ubuntu updated, it fails, the file is available on launchpad though04:16
Tm_TDeBert: well, if you like to have jingle support, you have to compile it yourself04:16
Shigutsowhere can I find VMWare Tools for VMWare Workstation 5.5 (Linux) ?04:16
mangustadownloading it and installing manually fixes the issue04:16
DeBertTm_T: Oh, it isn't build into 0.12?04:16
Tm_TDeBert: it is but it's not in my packages04:17
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mangustahowever, this may be a bug my machine partuicularly had, cause I did try a lot of random things to get kde to work04:17
Tm_TDeBert: I can't include it to packages because its still considered as "experimental function" though it haven't caused any problems yet04:17
DeBertTm_T: Oh, well than i'll wait, i'm afraid i might brake something04:17
Tm_TDeBert: also, to compile it, you need to get stuff outside ubuntu repos04:18
DeBertTm_T: Are you aware of any other stuff that lets you use voice on gtalk?04:18
Tm_TDeBert: so, no way to include it to packages, but can be compiled04:18
Tm_TDeBert: works fine here04:18
mangustais there any programs which give Expose - like functionality04:18
me2winkompose04:20
DeBertmangusta: F12 in Xgl does i believe :)04:20
me2winbut XGL has made it look purdy04:20
mangustacool, will take a look04:21
Tm_TXgl is evil04:22
me2winxgl ftw04:22
mangustaalso, is there a way to get nvidia drivers on?04:22
Tm_T!nvidia04:22
ubotunvidia is, like, totally, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736804:22
leilahi, i dont know which library one to choose for correcting this : The QtGui library >= 4.0.0 could not be found04:22
mangustaawesome04:22
Tm_Tleila: err, what needs that?04:22
leilai tried a development one but didnt work out04:22
leilacubetest 0.9.404:22
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Tm_Tinteresting04:23
leilawww.kde-apps.org04:23
DeBertTm_T: Why is Xgl evil? :)04:23
Tm_Tleila: well, "apt-cache search Qt | grep 4 " will give some hits04:23
leilai tried two libs but still havent got a clue04:23
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Tm_TDeBert: very immature, unstable, doesn't support KDE etc etc etc04:23
Tm_TDeBert: and most of all, atleast to me it doesn't give anything04:24
DeBertTm_T: Than how could i ran it on my comp with ease using kororaa?04:24
Tm_TDeBert: totally different04:24
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Tm_TI tested it with kororaa, 3 mins and I got bored04:24
leilaTm_T thank u i gt 8 things in terminal04:25
Tm_Tleila: yeah ;)04:25
leilacan i install them all at once?04:25
DeBertTm_T: True, Xgl isn't exactly a productiviy boost, but it does get rid of screendrag and slow feel04:25
Tm_TDeBert: not here04:25
Tm_TDeBert: never had that04:25
DeBertyou have a radeon 8500 than, or something else with decent open source drivers?04:25
Tm_TDeBert: but well, I use CRT@60 Hz04:25
me2winlinux needs xgl04:25
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Tm_Tme2win: hmm, for what?04:26
Tm_Tme2win: yes, it's good, but not yet ready for end users04:26
me2winit will be soon04:27
me2winit makes linux feel less old04:27
Tm_Tnot soon04:27
Tm_Tme2win: linux doesn't feel old04:27
Tm_Thttp://www.tm-travolta.net/shots/current.png04:27
Tm_T;)04:27
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Tm_TI switch desktops in 3d easily04:27
Tm_Twithout Xgl04:28
leilaTm_T but it says they are already installed if i do e.g. sudo apt-get install python2.4-sip4-qt304:28
me2winTm_T: its easy to make it look new, but it still feels behind04:28
Tm_Tleila: well, that wasn't what you need =)04:28
DeBertTm_T: Well, as long as there are almost no good games on linux, i don't need decent 3d performance anyway :)04:28
Tm_Tme2win: imho not04:28
Tm_TDeBert: games? there is04:28
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leilaTm_T but?04:29
Tm_TDeBert: Enemy Territory, UT series, and many more04:29
Tm_Tleila: wait04:29
DeBertTm_T: Oh wow, that many?04:29
DeBertTm_T: :)04:29
tristanmikeI played ET and was horrified with all the cheating04:29
jacopoexit04:29
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tristanmikeeven on supposed "punk buster" servers04:29
Tm_Ttristanmike: what cheating04:29
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Tm_Tleila: libqt4-gui etc04:30
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tristanmikethe one map that is really open and you have to go to the other side, grab a crate, and bring it back to build your camp04:30
burepeWhat is the command I am thinking of? Kdesk Kontrol or something...04:30
tristanmikepeople were "ninja jumping"04:30
Tm_Ttristanmike: you've been wrong server then04:30
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Tm_Ttristanmike: =)04:30
jonathan_hello all, is ther a way to make gaim the default application in kde for instant messenger. I have tried but it is not in the pull down menu04:30
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ninHertatilhi all04:30
tristanmikeAmerica's Army was enjoyable :)04:31
leilaTm_T libqt4-gui is already the newest version.04:31
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Tm_Ttristanmike: you should use our pub server then04:31
Tm_Tleila: -dev too04:31
DeBertjonathan_: System Settings>User Account>Default applications?04:32
jonathan_yeah, i tried there....it's not in the pull-down04:32
Tm_Tjonathan_: well,what you like to use?04:32
me2winI really wish kopete would let me arrange my groups how I want to. It would easily get me to use kopete over gaim if it did that04:33
jonathan_yeah, and on a whole it's more in depth than gaim for me.04:33
Tm_Tme2win: give numbers to groubs04:33
Tm_Tgroups04:33
jonathan_i'm all about functionality, but not in this case :)04:33
leilaTm_T is it right that i have to install the output of apt-cache search Qt | grep 4 by hand? libqt4-gui and libqt4-gui-dev it says are already installed..04:33
me2wingive numbers?04:33
me2winI shouldn't have to =/04:34
jonathan_so no one knows huh?04:34
me2winSuch an easy thing to implement, I don't see why they haven't done it yet04:34
Tm_Tme2win: because it's not that easy to implement04:34
Tm_Tme2win: http://www.tm-travolta.net/shots/kopete-gonedark-mod-1.png04:34
Hobbseejonathan_: filed a wishlist bug at bugs.kde.org?04:34
Tm_Tme2win: but, it will be possible in Kopete 1.0 I think04:35
jonathan_no, i figured first it might not be a bug04:35
Tm_Tme2win: IF we think it's very important04:35
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DeBertIs there a way to add exceptions to konqueror's addblocker?04:35
Tm_Tme2win: but there's more important things to do atm04:35
me2winIts the only thing that keeps me from using Kopete04:36
Tm_Tme2win: but I really hope we have things going well and time to do functions like that04:36
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leilahow can i add a server to the servers list? if i use add and so it says always i misspelled it?04:36
Tm_Tme2win: did you look that screenshot? easy workaround04:36
me2winyeah, but meh04:37
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me2winwhat is it exactly that is making it difficult to do that?04:37
Tm_Tme2win: well, time04:38
duelbootkatapult is not recognizing my amarok playlist...any assitance?04:38
Tm_Tme2win: and priority04:38
Hobbseejonathan_: no, there's a setting there for wishlist...04:38
Tm_Tme2win: but if you're willing to help us to do it, you're welcome04:38
jonathan_for just what i asked ?04:38
me2winTm_T: i suppose I should look into the API04:38
jonathan_ok, well thank you for checking that hobbsee04:38
Tm_Tme2win: possibly04:39
Hobbseewell, there used to be04:39
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Tm_THobbsee: good night :)04:39
Hobbseehehe04:39
mangustanite Hobbsee  thanks for your help04:39
DeBertbye hobbsee04:39
Hobbseecya...04:40
Hobbseenot a roblem04:40
Hobbsees/problem04:40
Tm_T=)04:40
Tm_THobbsee: GO!04:40
Hobbseehehe04:40
Tm_Toff we go ->04:41
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mangustanite all04:42
mangustaquit04:42
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duelbootany assitance with my issue above?04:43
me2wini dont use katapult, not sure04:44
leilawhy do many servers of the searchirc.com just not work?04:44
leilait says when i do add i missppelled it?04:44
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burepewhere do I edit samba settings?04:47
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dipnlikhi all. i have a kubuntu hoary cd, do you think it is better to install hoary then upgrade to breezy or dapper or should i download a noew iso?04:48
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mangustaback04:49
me2windipnlik: depends on what kind of connection you have I guess04:49
mangustajust installed nvidia drivers, but now my display is a bit crapped...04:49
mangustaBlack bar down right edge of screen04:49
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me2windipnlik: if you dist-upgrade from hoary, it might take a while to get the newest updates for breezy04:49
dipnlikme2win: pppoe adsl, but my modem does the dialing04:50
mangustacan't remember what causes this, have seen it before, anyone know where to find fix?04:50
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chxhi. how could i remove those files which name begin with 'foo' but not 'foo' itself?04:50
me2windipnlik: I would probably just get a new iso04:50
me2winrm foo*04:51
me2winbut04:51
me2winthat might remove foo also04:51
dipnlikchx: rename foo to bar :P04:51
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ShigutsoI can't use Ctrl+Tab in my Firefox, because this is shortcuted to change the Desktops, but I only use one desktop... how can I desactivate this Ctrl+Tab to finally use in my Firefox??04:52
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mangustahas anyone seen how to fix the nvidia driver issue, where a black bar is down the right side of the screen?04:55
me2winat login?04:56
mangustaI have done it once, requires setting some things in the xorg.conf, but i don't know what04:56
mangustanah, just in kde04:56
mangustait's to do with glx, or one of the other modules04:56
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me2winI have a black bar down the right side, but only at the login prompt, goes away once KDE splash comes up, and i have ati04:57
mangustaokies04:57
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mangustame2win, try commenting out the Load "dri" and Load"GLcore" lines in xorg, im pretty sure thats what it is, dont do it yet, I'm about to test it on mine....04:59
mangustabrb04:59
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NoMorePutsAt starup, how would you disable the clock sync routine?05:03
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Danny|zzzanyone here?05:05
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edulixmany05:05
edulix:P05:05
Dannyok..anyone know what this error means?05:05
Dannyhttp://dknoppix.pastebin.com/64889605:05
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_bbeckTo disable the clock sync just remove that script from you startup directories.  Look at the command update-rc.d05:06
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noteventime'ello05:07
Dannyanyone know whta this is:05:08
Dannychecking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool05:08
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noteventimeDanny, search for pearl xml05:11
Dannyok05:12
farousDanny: what are you trying to install?05:12
tmdx120hello05:12
noteventimebrb05:13
Dannynutrino05:13
Dannyif I can spell it..05:13
_bbeckIt means you need to install libxml-perl.05:13
tmdx120I have a question about ubgrading. Im a noob.05:13
Dannyok05:13
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tmdx120i have ubuntu 5.04 and I want to upgrade to 5.10. I have the CD how do I do it?05:14
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noteventimetmdx120, no :)05:15
noteventime!breezy05:15
ubotuBreezy is the current stable version of Ubuntu. If you would like to upgrade to it, the guide to upgrading to Breezy is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade05:15
noteventimeWhy do I get indirect mesa (T_T)05:15
noteventimeI have the i810 drivers both configured and installed05:15
tmdx120Thank you very much!05:16
noteventimenp :905:16
noteventimeYou might consider upgrading to dapper :)05:16
noteventime!dappe05:16
ubotuSome people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, noteventime05:16
noteventime!dapper05:16
ubotuDapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)05:16
tmdx120why dapper?05:17
noteventimeIts newer :)05:17
Dannynow what is this?05:17
Dannyhttp://dknoppix.pastebin.com/64956605:17
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tmdx120is dapper available for 64bit?05:17
noteventimeDanny, you need a newer glib05:17
noteventimetmdx120, Yes05:17
noteventimebrb05:18
nukyis there a way to monitor internet use? like how much badnwith programs are taking up and which programs are using the internet?05:18
bsmnetstat, iptraf05:18
nukybecause my web browsing is reeeeeeeally slow but my file downloads are ok and i'm a bit confused.. wanted to see if there was a way to monitor it05:18
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nukybsm: thanks, i'll try them05:18
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noteventimePlease someone, Why do get only get mesa indirect renderer?05:19
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bsmgod hates you noteventime05:20
me2winhe hates you badly05:20
noteventimeNah, god is dead05:20
me2winhe lives in XGL-Land05:20
Dannynoteventime, it said I had the current version?05:20
noteventime1. Stupid Intel release shitty drivers05:20
noteventime2. Now they won't even load05:20
noteventimeDanny, which version?05:21
noteventimeMight be that you also have an older version installed05:21
noteventimeif so, remove the old one05:21
noteventimePlease someone help me, I spent the whole day yesterdey trying to get oger compiled just to know that my drivers couldn't handle it. Now they won't even load at all05:22
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duffydackhi peeps05:25
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Dannyoh05:27
Dannyhow do I get the older version off?05:27
duffydackjust put kubuntu breezy  on, formatted my external during install,  made a folder for my mp3`s on it, chowned the folder to my user but the files/folders that get made dont keep the owner i set, how do i do that?05:27
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beefsprocketduffydack: I think you need to edit your fstab file to allow users to mount, write, and change files on the external drive05:28
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duffydackok,  and how would  i do that05:29
beefsprocketduffydack: i.e. I use the following: /dev/sdc1 /home/beefsprocket/Musica    auto    user,rw,defaults,umask=0002 0 005:29
Dannyor you could05:29
Dannygo "Kmenu --> Run05:29
Dannytype in kdesu kcontrol05:29
beefsprocketduffydack: I'm never sure about the umask part, i think it is more needed when using ntfs, but it doesn't hurt to have it just in case05:30
Dannythen go to system Administration --> Disk and file system"05:30
Dannythen click on the external, and then click "Modify" at the bottom05:30
beefsprocketduffydack: you'll of course want to change /dev/sdc1 to match your drive's /dev/ entry05:30
tmdx120hello again. I tried using synaptic to upgrade. No go. I tried to add the CD to the repositiory. no go05:31
noteventimetdmx120, did you change hoary to dapper?05:32
tmdx120No, Im doing hoary to breezy05:32
noteventimeok then just change to breezy :D05:32
noteventimein /etc/apt/sources.list05:33
tmdx120hmmm. what do I input?05:33
noteventimekdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list05:34
leilawho knows a good program for training logic thinking?05:35
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n4w3rsvp, je cherche desesperement  ouvrir un fichier kword sous windows, open office n'a pas l'air de connaitre ce format05:36
tmdx120gotcha but what do I intput into the text editor?05:36
noteventime!fr05:36
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.05:36
duffydackk05:37
beefsprocketwokrs?05:37
duffydackthanks, ill try it, brb05:37
beefsprocket*works? ah... nm05:37
duffydackim tryin your method05:37
beefsprocketright05:37
beefsprockettmdx120: replace every instance of the word hoary with breezy and then save05:38
noteventime:( Doesn't any one have any ideas?05:38
tmdx120noteventime oh ok05:38
noteventime:) then just run sudo apt-get update05:38
tmdx120do I REPLACE or ADD so that I have BOTH hoary AND breezy?05:38
noteventimeafter that is finished sudo apt-get dest-upgrade05:38
beefsprocketreplace05:39
tmdx120ok05:39
beefsprocketthen do what noteventime says05:39
noteventimesorry05:39
noteventimesudo apt-get dist-upgrade05:39
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noteventimedist, bot dest :)05:39
noteventimes/bot/not05:39
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duffydackback,  bit of a prob05:42
duffydack"/dev/sda3       /media/music    reiserfs noatime,defaults,user,rw,umask=0002 0       0"05:42
duffydackmount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda305:43
noteventimeis it reiserfs?05:43
duffydackyes05:43
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noteventimeAnd you are sure that sda3 is the right disc?05:43
duffydack"/dev/sda3       /media/music    reiserfs noatime         0       2"   is what it used to be, and worked05:43
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duffydackyup05:43
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duffydacktook the umask out and it works05:47
Dannyyes!05:47
Dannygot gnomad to work05:47
beefsprocketduffydack: excellent05:48
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duffydackso, how do i get it to maintain permissions?05:48
duffydackwithout the umask05:48
beefsprocketi think the user part takes care of that05:49
beefsprockettry setting the perimissions on a directory and folders, unmount, and then remount05:49
Dannyanyone use Kopete?05:49
beefsprocketdanny, yep05:49
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Dannywhy did it change some users to "ICQ Email Express"05:49
Dannyeven when they're not away05:49
beefsprocketI don't use icq...05:50
Dannynor do I05:50
DannyI use AIM05:50
beefsprocketsame difference?05:50
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duffydacki dont mean to keep on mount/unmount, i mean , say i own folder temp, (dean:users) and i make a file inside it, it then belongs to dean:dean05:50
Dannydunno05:50
duffydacki want it to keep dean:users05:50
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beefsprocketah ic. that i couldn't tell you -- I'm not very handy with users and chown/chmod stuff05:52
duffydackthink maybe best to mount with my uid/gid05:52
noteventime:(( I guess I'll have to format my drive X-(05:52
duffydackbut im not sure05:52
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beefsprocketduffydack: you might look into gmask?05:54
beefsprocketduffydack: pureply speculative, but if you are user 1000 and group 1000, umask=1000,gmask=1000 might do the trick05:54
beefsprocketthat is, if gmask even exists as an option in fstab05:55
duffydackuid=1000,gid=100005:56
duffydackwould be the right way  i think05:56
duffydackdoesnt matter, it`ll do as it is05:56
tmdx120noteven after I edit sources.list file I cannot save even though I opened it as sudo05:57
beefsprocketright05:57
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beefsprockettmdx120: you used kdesu kate to open the file right?05:58
tmdx120no sudo05:58
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beefsprocketso you've got kate open right now?05:58
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tmdx120Ok I did it with Kdesu05:59
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duffydackdo i need the user option still in this06:00
duffydack"/dev/sda3       /media/music    reiserfs noatime,user,rw,uid=1000,gid=1000 0       2"06:00
duffydackim clueless with fstab options.06:00
beefsprocketduffydack: I;d say it is redundant with the uid06:00
duffydackrw?06:00
beefsprockettmdx120: so now you'll have to replace haory with breezy again and then save06:00
beefsprocketread/write06:00
tmdx120ok done. what next?06:00
duffydackneeded?06:00
beefsprocketthe default is ro read-only I think06:00
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duffydackor does uid take care of it06:01
duffydackon reiserfs?06:01
beefsprocketduffydack: I think it will mount readonly by default unless you give it the rw06:01
beefsprockettmdx120: saved? then run sudo-apt-get update06:01
beefsprockettmdx120: then when that completes, run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade06:01
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duffydackdamnit,06:02
duffydackwont work with uid/gid06:02
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beefsprocketduffydack: that's no good then06:03
tmdx120ok saved updated and now upgrading. THANKYOU06:04
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beefsprockettmdx120: noteventime is the one to thank :)06:09
noteventime:/ not really I just began06:09
duffydackseems adding suid06:10
duffydackmakes me the owner of the mount06:10
noteventimeanyway06:10
beefsprocketduffydack: does the keep folder permissions and such?06:10
tmdx120Well thanks for the help anyway both of you.06:10
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noteventime:D I hate making backups before a "disc clean"06:10
beefsprocketyou're welcome indeed then06:10
noteventimeIt's like going to a burial06:11
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noteventimetdmx120, np :D06:11
noteventimetmdx120*06:11
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duffydackdean:dean is owner of mount, so makin files/folders makes same perms06:12
duffydacki guess it`ll do06:12
duffydacksave me  being root to make a folder06:12
duffydackon root mount06:12
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noteventimeStill noone with an idea why my xserver won't load my drivers?06:14
bins /msg nickserv link bge indous06:14
noteventimeIt doesn't give any errors from what I can see06:14
duffydackok thanks beefsprocket06:14
duffydackoff to set it up some more06:15
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ichigocoucou06:24
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apajoin #ubuntu.hu06:32
apa:)06:32
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metalheddever since about a week ago the adept updater has been giving me an error about mimetypes just before it starts up, seems to work fine though, anyone know whats going on?06:34
Somefilenamemetalhedd, Whatr's the error message?06:34
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metalheddCould not find mimetype application/octet stream06:35
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beefsprocketmetalhedd: there's a malone bug already filed against that06:37
beefsprocketPITA though isn't it?06:37
metalheddmeh, doesn't both me much other than the startling noise it makes when it pops up, everything seems to work just fine06:38
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JoHn123KDE /hald/ auto mount pendrive problem: mounted pendrive no good: .stb...long character bad. i have mount -t iso8859-2 . What file edit?  Sorry bad english :(06:40
LeonWPhey. can somebody tell me if kdelibs-devel is in the kubuntu-apt-sources?06:40
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beefsprocketLeonWP: I think the package is called kdelibs-dev06:41
LeonWPok. is this in the repositorys?06:41
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LeonWPah, i got it. thanks.06:42
beefsprocketLeonWP: good06:42
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kubuntutaotaoWyabdcRealPeopleTTS of stardict had been moved to "/usr/share", why didn't it pronounce?06:44
tmdx120hey beef noteventime its finished, what now. reboot?06:44
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beefsprockettmdx120: no errors? then yes06:45
tmdx120no errors...06:45
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munzirHi, What's the name of the applet I can add to monitor my ethernet connection?06:50
seth|lappymunzir, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperKNetworkmanager for Dapper06:51
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ShigutsoI can't use Ctrl+Tab in my Firefox, because this is shortcuted to change the Desktops, but I only use one desktop... how can I desactivate this Ctrl+Tab to finally use in my Firefox??06:52
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seth|lappyShigutso, in SystemSettings, go to Regional & Accessibility > Keyboard Shortcuts06:53
Shigutsoseth|lappy: thank you... gonna see :)06:53
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_adminpreved06:54
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_greghi ya'll. I'm just starting out with konversation. Is there an easy way to add undernet to the server's list?06:55
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tmdx120Hello again.06:56
tmdx120I think I have a problem.06:56
Shigutsoafter I upgraded my KDE to 3.5.2, my "system:/media" isn't showing nothing... any HDA, HDC, nothing... what happened?06:56
Aikurn_greg: F2 -> new06:56
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munzirseth|lappy: thanks a lot. I just installed it and ran it from the shell but it says it's not running, how shall I run it?06:57
_greg Aikurn what do I put under servers?06:58
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seth|lappymunzir, first, you need to comment out everything in /etc/network/interfaces except for stuff about 'lo'06:58
seth|lappymunzir, then restart your computer06:58
munzirseth|lappy: comment everything except lo? this means I will be disconnected, no?06:59
Aikurn_greg: i have a localized version, you should write something like irc.yourserver.net06:59
seth|lappymunzir, NetworkManager handles all connections for you06:59
seth|lappymunzir, however it doesn't work on any connection that has entries in /interfaces06:59
seth|lappy(for example, if you need static IPs)06:59
munzirseth|lappy: Umm! thanks a lot for all these valuable tips. i have to go for 20 mins and would be back. i will test it and report if I found you.07:00
_greg Aikurn ... tried undernet.org and got "name lookup has failed"07:00
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Aikurnok, wait a sec07:01
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beefsprockettmdx120: that's strange07:04
beefsprockettmdx120: did you boot the new kernel?07:04
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beefsprockettmdx120: what about system:/ ? anything there?07:05
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tmdx120Beef - I just went to synaptic and did a 'smart update' Hope that wasnt the wrong thing to do. but it seems to be working.....07:08
beefsprockettmdx120: ok good07:09
tmdx120For some reason, it just unloaded the packages, it didnt upgrade them. Dont know why. Maybe I missed something. Anyway this SEEMS to be doing the job.07:10
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Dannyuhh07:19
Dannysomething screwed up again07:19
Dannyafter the kubuntu login screen loads07:19
DannyI enter my username and pass07:19
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Dannyand then it just stalls07:19
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connis anyone here using aiglx/compiz on kubuntu?07:29
tmdx120hey beef. That seems to have done it. Things look a little different. Ill have to explore. Thanks again!07:30
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tmdx120beef for some reason, it has taken my hardrive icons off my desktop. Tried to config desktop, no dice.07:31
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tmdx120hmmm. in fact. I can no longer find my ide drive/paritions.07:35
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beefsprockettmdx120: I think it has somethign to do with ivman07:42
beefsprocketyou can try apt-get install ivman and see what it does07:42
beefsprocketbut I think that you'll get 2 popups when you insert a disc or plug in a usb drive07:42
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jpatrickhi apokryphos07:44
apokryphosheyhey07:45
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jpatrickmirshafie|a: please turn off the public aways07:50
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Dannysomething screwed up again07:53
Dannyafter the kubuntu login screen loads07:53
DannyI enter my username and pass07:53
Dannyand then it just stalls07:53
BlissexDanny: stalls usually are caused by some computer name/DNS problems like it is trying to find a name and there is no response from a DNS server...07:54
BlissexDanny: try to make sure that your computer name is in '/etc/hosts'07:54
DannyBlissex, it was working after I restared it multiple times07:55
Dannyit connects to my wireless network fine07:55
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stianHey, anyone into podcasting, and perhaps could suggest a link or two with information and hints and such for pocasting from linux/kde/kubuntu?08:23
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cosmic_hi @ all08:34
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tristanmikehi cosmic_08:34
cosmic_, tristanwike hi08:35
cosmic_na alles kloar?08:35
tristanmikesorry, english only here08:35
cosmic_???08:35
cosmic_lol08:36
cosmic_so how are you08:36
tristanmikegreat :)08:36
cosmic_fine08:36
tristanmikethanx, you ?08:36
cosmic_same thx08:36
cosmic_:)08:36
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cosmic_so tell me do you use apache?08:37
tristanmikeno, sorry, just a desktop user here :P08:37
cosmic_never mind08:37
cosmic_i like desktop user08:37
cosmic_;P08:37
cosmic_and what is your oppinion about kubuntu ?08:38
=== tristanmike <3 K/Ubuntu
cosmic_??? once again plz08:38
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bobbydhi08:39
stiantristanmike is larger than 3 K/Ubuntus08:39
=== tristanmike loves K/Ubuntu (<3 <-That's a heart, if you look closely)
cosmic_hi08:39
cosmic_lol08:39
cosmic_ok i see08:39
bobbydis there a tool in KDE to clean out broken/missin menu items? I seem to remember something from a while ago...08:39
stiantristanmike: no <3 is greater than three :P08:39
cosmic_:)08:39
tristanmikeexcept the Grinch's08:39
cosmic_where do you guys come from ?08:40
=== stian comes from space
stianbut currently I reside in norway08:40
=== tristanmike takes up space
cosmic_cool :)08:40
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cosmic_oh norway ... interesting08:40
Red_Herringim from chicago08:40
tristanmikebut currently I reside in Canada08:40
stiancosmic_: thanks to global warming, norway is not so cool :P quite warm :)08:40
cosmic_chicago ... good08:41
Red_Herringno, chicago is boring08:41
cosmic_oh sorry stian i thought so ... :)08:41
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cosmic_i lived in the Uk for 3 jears jpatric08:41
clem_yeatswhat software do you read DVD with ?08:42
jpatrickwell right now I'm in Spain08:42
clem_yeatsI mean.. do you use Kaffeine or something else ?08:42
jpatricki use KMPlayer08:42
cosmic_greetings to malgrat del mar then08:43
stianI use xbox media center :)08:43
jpatrick!info kmplayer08:43
clem_yeatsstian: is that a bootable system ? or an application ?08:43
stianclem_yeats: uhm, it's an app for the xbox :)08:43
clem_yeatsok08:44
stianclem_yeats: so really my comment was quite unappropriate08:44
cosmic_does somebody know how to eleminate problems on apache ? :)08:45
Red_Herringwhat problems?08:46
cosmic_I had apache installed (v.1.13. or so) then i installed apache 2.x and know i have got problems with my virtual hosts ! the first works ... but the second doesn't08:47
cosmic_xcause my english08:47
cosmic_plz08:47
cosmic_both have the same config and the directorys have the same ... rights ?08:48
Red_Herringcosmic_: nope, they have different config files08:48
cosmic_sorry but they have one !08:49
Red_Herringand some of the directories are different08:49
Red_Herringbut i cant help you w/ apache1 because i have apache2 and have always used apache208:49
cosmic_i have apache 2 too08:50
cosmic_could i paste you my config file?08:50
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Red_Herringhrm, id suggest waiting for someone here w/ more expericance08:50
Red_Herringcuz i cant tell you how to set up virtual hosts and all08:51
cosmic_http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/667/08:52
cosmic_okidoki , thx for trying anywhere08:53
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cosmic_<-- going smoking08:55
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cosmic_<-- back again08:59
cosmic_does anyone now where i could get an codec for wmv -files (xine)09:00
cosmic_???09:00
jpatricklibxine-extracodecs09:02
cosmic_thx09:03
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cosmic_does someone think that kubuntu is slower than than winXP ?09:04
jpatrickNot me09:05
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cosmic_hm...09:06
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DeBertcosmic_: browsing in konqueror is sometimes09:09
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cosmic_and opening programs generally  i think09:09
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cosmic_re Red_Herring09:10
Red_Herringgrrr, stupid wireless card!09:11
cosmic_:)09:12
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swaits_hi all.. i have a question.  i switched to ubuntu on my laptop (from XP) a few weeks ago and have liked it.  but then last night I installed kubuntu-desktop and decided I like it better.  today I want to go for a clean kubuntu install..  just wondering if I should use Breezy or Flight 6?09:14
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Aikurni'm using flight 5 and so far it's stable09:15
swaits_ok..09:16
swaits_so when Dapper goes final, will it be easy to upgrade from Flight whatever to the final Dapper?09:16
RaerCan anyone help me on how to update de kernel?09:16
Aikurnswaits_: very easy09:17
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swaits_Ok.. I'll go with flight 6 then.  thanks!09:17
Aikurnnp, but be aware it's a testing release and bugs happen :)09:18
cosmic_cu @ all09:19
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foobarhmm my keyboard encoding is wrong in many kde programs, what can I do about that? e.g. in kopete,kmail or in the console i cant type any special chars, i see them perfectly though... in other programs it does work, e.g. firefox, kdissert, amarok09:19
foobargot KDE 3.5.2 with dapper, dunno what to do09:19
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janusheadRiddell: ping09:23
Riddelljanushead: hi09:23
janusheadRiddell: <-- seele09:23
Riddellaah09:23
janusheaddo zou have the link to the pastebin link zou sent me a few dazs09:23
janusheadack.. sorrz.. german kezbaord09:24
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Tm_T=)09:24
Tm_Tzz09:24
Tm_Twaz iz daz09:24
Riddellkubuntu.pastebin.com ?09:24
flodinehi guys im tring to change the start menu icon is this possible?09:24
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flodineanyone09:25
janusheadoi, well.. what the hell then.  my interfaces file is right09:26
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flodinesomeone please help this noob09:27
Tm_Tflodine: yes09:27
duffydackfinally, got kubuntu installed how i like... apart from ati driver, no doubt i will have grief installin the latest09:27
Tm_Tflodine: not easy, not clean, but yes09:28
duffydackone thing... how the hell do you tell firefox to download files to your home folder...09:28
duffydackit wont set it to anywhere (in home) but Desktop09:28
flodineTm_T is it hard09:28
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Tm_Tflodine: well, you have to modify the icon it's currently using or modify the code of kicker09:29
Tm_Tflodine: modifying icon is option in your case I think09:29
flodineTm_T well tell me this when i install a new icon set where is it located09:30
flodinemaybe i can chane it there09:30
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vgeflodine: have you tryed kbfx?09:30
Tm_Tflodine: kmenu.png in /usr/share/icons/<icontheme>09:31
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flodinewhats kbfx09:31
Tm_Tsomething evil I think09:31
flodinelol09:31
MetaMorfoziSkbfx is a kicker applet09:31
MetaMorfoziSthat replaces the kmenu's butto09:31
MetaMorfoziSn09:31
MetaMorfoziSand you can add own k-menu images09:31
vgei donno if it's still buggy09:32
Tm_T..did I say 'evil' already? ;)09:32
MetaMorfoziSbut it's bugous and spare09:32
MetaMorfoziSi tryed it09:32
MetaMorfoziSbig pest to make it09:32
MetaMorfoziSand spare:)09:33
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vgei was lucky enought to find a deb, but i just hated some of it's bugs09:33
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MetaMorfoziSit isn't in package09:33
MetaMorfoziSiirc it's only in source09:34
MetaMorfoziSand you may build it if you're crazy09:34
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Ickehi09:34
Ickecan anyone shed some light on the support of Kubuntu for USB harddisks?09:35
Ickedo all brands work equally good (or bad)?09:35
ubuntu_rocksi can't hear sound when playing mp3s with amarok?09:35
flodinei dont believe its that hard to change a icon09:35
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MetaMorfoziSflodline, believe.09:36
MetaMorfoziS:)09:36
flodineno09:36
MetaMorfoziSyou can create your own icon set09:36
MetaMorfoziSor your own applet09:36
MetaMorfoziSno other way i think09:36
MetaMorfoziSor!09:36
MetaMorfoziSmodify an icon set...09:36
flodinewell i can find the theme i installed vista iconset09:36
MetaMorfoziSi can't recognise people why install "win" based things09:36
MetaMorfoziSvista win deco09:37
MetaMorfoziSiconset09:37
MetaMorfoziSloginscreen other09:37
MetaMorfoziSbroaf09:37
MetaMorfoziSi'm not on linux for see any ms term.09:37
MetaMorfoziSOkay, i has internet explorer because i'm webdeveloper, but i'm not use it for browsing, and i hasn't got any other ms sw.09:38
duffydacksomeone make linux port of Movie Collector an i`ll dump Wine09:38
MetaMorfoziSnc09:39
duffydackalso, openoffice is the worst program ever invented....so i have to use MS.. wish i didnt.09:39
vgei have my vmware for windows if i need it09:39
jonathan_VIVA LA VMWARE09:39
vge:)09:40
MetaMorfoziSopenoffice is thebest program ever created for NON DOCUMENTED and SHIT standards09:40
duffydackopenoffice is ok but it just doesnt cut the mustard after using msoffice so long..sorry..    isnt vmware with windows installed like, defeating the object?09:40
jonathan_no daffy09:40
duffydacki try not piss in the wind too much .09:40
jonathan_there are somethings it's nice to have it there09:40
jonathan_not often, but i do use it rarely09:41
duffydackye i use it , not sayin its bad, just sayin,09:41
jonathan_and I'd rather not have to restart, do what i need to do, and then restart again09:41
vgei just use it to see my webpages i make09:41
jonathan_besides I feel safer with it than crossover office sometimes09:41
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jonathan_quite honestly, I don't want to be a page down the road and it die on me09:42
jonathan_lol, yes every now and again i forget to save09:42
vgesomebody can tell me why IRC dont work on my new kernel? :)09:42
jonathan_cause it's messed up09:42
jonathan_that's why :D09:43
vgeirc or the kernel? :)09:43
jonathan_nothing, i was being a smartass....09:43
jonathan_every so often i have to be, it's an addiction :)09:43
vgewell all other "internet" things work, but no IRC connect09:43
jonathan_hey wait...it doesn't make connection does it09:44
jonathan_seriously i think i had that issue for awhile with dapper09:44
vgewell i stops09:44
jonathan_mine just keep remote connection something...been a few days so i never thought about it again when it started working09:45
vge[22:19]  [Notice]  -- *** Found your hostname09:45
vge[22:20]  [Notice]  -- *** No identd (auth) response09:45
vgethose are the last lines i get09:45
vgethen it just stays there, no connection, but connected, or something09:45
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jonathan_i don't suppose you have tried another client for fun09:45
vgeabout 3-4, all the same result09:46
jonathan_are you going to the same place each time09:46
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vgedifferents servers, same thing09:46
vgewhen i boot to my old kernel, all works fine09:47
jonathan_did you make the kernel?09:47
jonathan_the new one i mean09:47
vgefrom vanilla yes09:47
vgepatched it to 2.6.17-rc109:48
jonathan_i would say there is an option somewhere you didn't do or something09:48
stianHey people, how do I select a differen wireless network09:48
stianI seem to have connected to my neighbours, and can't figure out how to get onto my own :PO09:48
vgeif you see your wireless, consider yourself lucky -.-09:48
vge:)09:48
jonathan_try i think kwireless stian09:49
stianvge: what?09:49
jonathan_you might have to install it09:49
jonathan_apt-get install kwireless09:49
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vgestian: : naah, i cant really help with wireless, i updated my kernel for support, then it just dont let me go into IRC, stupid kernel09:50
stianjonathan_: thanks09:50
alex_hey, im running gonome but i cant start kde apps09:50
jonathan_hang on09:50
alex_http://pastebin.com/65006609:50
jonathan_lemmie make sure stian09:50
stianvge: wireless runs out of the box for me :)09:50
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stianhmm, jonathan_ yeah do that, cause there's no such package :)09:50
jonathan_there is a kwireless but it's not what you wany09:51
jonathan_network-manager-kde09:51
jonathan_that's it, i'm looking at it in synaptic09:51
jonathan_i'm not sure how great it is, but i use it on my laptop and it's great09:52
stianhmm, ok, I'll try09:52
jonathan_ahhh, it's nice having a card with native drivers...no ndiswrapper crap09:52
vgejonathan_: dapper packet?09:52
stianyeah09:52
jonathan_what?09:53
vgebreezy dont have that09:53
stiancentrino chipset is teh shizzle :)09:53
stianhmm09:53
jonathan_yeah, thats what i have09:53
jonathan_well, just the intel card...close enough09:53
jonathan_yeah, crap09:53
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jonathan_stian, is this a new install?09:54
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vgehmm, ill try to boot to my 2.6.17-rc1 kernel, try to get into irc, any suggestions? :)09:54
jonathan_LOL, sorry vge...i wish i did09:54
jonathan_google...i can check there09:54
stianjonathan_: nah, it's a month old or so, but up to date dapper09:55
vgehmm, can i get webirc connect to freenode?09:55
ParkotronWhat's the easiest way to record ALSA's output to a wave?09:55
jonathan_ok, well if you have the dapper reps it should be there09:55
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DeBertHey guys, read the story on OSNews: http://www.osnews.com09:56
jonathan_that might be going through 80 though09:56
stianjonathan_: network-manager-kde, does that give the command "knetworkmanager"?09:57
jonathan_after you install it you should see it in "internet" on the kmenu09:57
stianhmm09:58
stianas what?09:58
DeBertLooks like Kubuntu is in serious trouble09:59
jonathan_lol....your going to make me go get my laptop aren't you :)09:59
stianI didn't get anything new, then again, menus don't seem like they update when supposed to, only when restarting kde :P09:59
stianDeBert: what makes you say that?09:59
stianjonathan_: hehe, no worries09:59
stianjonathan_: hehe, i can probably figure it out:P09:59
jonathan_i will if you need me to09:59
DeBertstian: read http://www.osnews.com10:00
noteventimeHow do I uninstall icon themes?10:00
stianjonathan_: hehe, did it go into the system tray with an icon where you could select the network? cause I did get that one (knetworkmanager) but it is unable to connect to the NetworkManager process10:00
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slow-motionbye10:02
vgegood, now i have a webirc10:02
jonathan_lol....brb, let me go get it10:02
asadasadasagood indeed10:02
DeBertHmmm, little responce for such a disturbing story....10:02
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stianDeBert: you gotta let me read it first ;)10:03
mindspinDeBert: maybe discuss it in #ubuntu-offtopic or in #kubuntu-offtopic10:03
DeBertYou think the possible death of our distro is offtopic?10:03
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Shigutsoa simple question10:05
mindspinno but this is a help channel and for me its not the possible death10:05
BlissexDeBert: some notions: apparently Shuttleworth uses Kubuntu himself; however free sw is done on a ''scratch my itch'' principle...10:05
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mindspinI#m almost getting angryer about the step the kubuntu-de people have taken10:05
mindspinand I#m german too10:06
buzthat text is highly offending10:06
jonathan_I read it but I guess i'm not understanding10:06
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jonathan_how involved are these people in kubuntu?10:07
Shigutsoi have kubuntu here, but i also have a 10gb free partition in this HD. If I install Windows XP on it, does Windows XP going to manipulate my boot system, and Windows is going to load instead of Linux? or nothing will change and I will can change the Grub settings?10:07
Vgenow, lets see how a konversation gets to irc10:07
Vgenope, it dont :/10:07
jonathan_sorry vge10:07
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Vgethis is just stupid10:08
ShigutsoVge: was that answer to me?10:08
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stiangrr10:08
connShigutso: yes, Windows will overwrite the MBR, and therefore, GRUB10:08
BlissexShigutso: XP will install its own booter, then you can reinstall GRUB from the Ubuntu install CD10:08
DeBertKubuntu is the only decent KDE distro now, would be said if something terrible happened to it...10:08
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Shigutsodamn... isn't that a easier way? damn windows xp... :/10:09
Shigutsoisn't there*10:09
VgeDeBert: is there something happening to it?10:09
DeBertVge: Well, a couple of devs are complaining about lack of support from canonical10:10
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connShigutso: unfortunately not, you'll need to restore GRUB from the CD, after installing XP10:10
stianjonathan_: if you figured it out while I was missing and said something I'd be grateful if you could repeat :P my neighbour might either a) be getting cranky, or b) having fun10:10
jonathan_lol10:10
jonathan_i'm looking10:10
Shigutsoconn: but will i have to reinstall the whole kubuntu or can i just reinstall grub?10:10
Vgesoo, who can tell me, why this netirc works, but none of my IRC clients?10:10
buzfirewall likely10:11
Vgeis that a kernel option?10:11
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stianuhm10:11
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jonathan_LOL....ok, I'm dumb10:12
connShigutso: oh don't worry, as long as you're careful when installing XP not overwrite your Ubuntu partition, your data will be safe10:12
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VgeShigutso: you can reinstall grup with the kubuntu cd10:12
jonathan_the package is wlassistant10:12
stianaha10:12
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stian:)10:13
stian*apt-getting*10:13
connShigutso: read through this before going through with the install: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7665210:13
jonathan_did you look for that network-manager in kcontrol?10:13
Vgeis somekind of firewall a kernel option, "firewall build in" i have heard?10:13
Shigutsoconn: ok... thank you :)10:13
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jonathan_stian did you look for that network-manager in kcontrol?10:14
connno prob, just remember to write down the instructions, as you won't be able to reboot into Ubuntu and check that bookmark, heh10:14
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Vgethis is just stupid :/10:17
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wonderfulJoehello good people of the Kubuntu worlde!10:17
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stianjonathan_: yay :D thanks for you assistance ;)10:18
jonathan_hey, thinking about it10:18
jonathan_lol...i think that network-manager i told you to install is found in kcontrol ..lol10:18
jonathan_i'm sorry, it's an off day10:18
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stianlol10:18
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stianjonathan_: but network-manager didn't work10:19
stianso still missing something to put in the tray :(10:19
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stianbut now at least I can choose what network to connect to :P10:20
jonathan_hmm, well at least it's working foryou now :)10:20
stianyeah10:20
wonderfulJoeI am doing a dist-upgrade from breezy to dapper; after all the magic of aptitude happened, I was left with packages that were "held back". Where do I go from here?10:21
wonderfulJoe"154 not upgraded."10:22
wonderfulJoeare my dependencies royally screwed?10:23
JasonFwonderfulJoe: try doing an apt-get dist-upgrade10:23
JasonFor reinstalling ubuntu-base and kubuntu-desktop10:23
wonderfulJoehmmm...those things didn't work10:24
wonderfulJoeapt-get dist-upgrade was what got me here10:24
wonderfulJoeand I'm not very advanced at using apt-get10:25
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JasonFwonderfulJoe: did you aptitude dist-upgrade?10:25
jonathan_I'm just sitting here ticked off over this kubuntu.de thing10:25
JasonFaptitude might fix some stuff10:25
JasonFwonderfulJoe: if you aren't that advanced at "using apt-get" why are you changing to a development version of linux?10:26
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jpatrickjonathan_: they have gone overboard today yes10:26
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wonderfulJoeJasonF: I'd like to stay on the bleeding edge, and besides, I'd have no other motivation to learn more about apt-get10:27
jonathan_it's stupid10:27
wonderfulJoeI come from the Gentoo worlde10:27
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chouette!diskmounter10:27
ubotudiskmounter is, like, to automatically mount your ntfs, fat32 or hfs+ drives, download and read http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter10:27
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alex_http://pastebin.com/65006610:27
alex_hey, im running gonome but i cant start kde apps10:27
jonathan_jpatrick: i mean i could understand somewhat, but they are griping without showing evidence or without explaining on their irc room10:27
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jonathan_and I would still like someone to tell me just what and how much do they benefit the distro?10:28
jpatrickjonathan_: I'm a developer, I don't mind not being paided10:28
jonathan_well, i do completely understand not being paid10:29
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jonathan_food is important :) ....but my problem is no explaining...just griping and nothing to back it up with10:29
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ehjayis there a place to leave feedback for dapper?  I just upgraded from breezy and have some feedback10:31
Blippeehjay, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/dapper/10:32
ehjayBlippe: thanks10:32
Tallia1Kubuntuis there a way to leech streaming mp3 in linux?10:33
DeBertTallia1Kubuntu: I know streamripper can do it10:35
nico8481how can i get K3B to burn audiocd's from MP3? now it seems not to recognize the format... it works ok with ogg though...10:35
wonderfulJoeTallialKubuntu: http://streamripper.sourceforge.net/10:35
Vgearrrgh10:36
ehjayBlippe: any idea where on that site to leave feedback?  As bugs?10:36
wonderfulJoenico8481: you probably don't have mp3 codecs installed10:36
wonderfulJoenico8481: try installing lame and you should have all the libraries you need10:37
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wonderfulJoenico8481 : K3B should automatically find mp3 codecs once they're installed and be able to use them10:38
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Tallia1KubuntuDeBert: i can't use it!! since i have to log in with password and username before...10:38
Tallia1KubuntuDeBert: is there a way to include StreamRipper in firefox?10:39
Tallia1Kubuntuin this way the authentication would be used !! :)10:39
paulvolkIs there any way of changing grubs background?10:39
DeBertTallia1Kubuntu: dunno10:40
wonderfulJoepaulvolk: interesting article: http://susewiki.org/index.php?title=Change_GRUB_background10:42
wonderfulJoepaulvolk : looks like all the grub graphical stuff is a simple cpio archive10:42
viatorstreamripper10:42
jonathan_jpatirck are you still there10:42
paulvolkwonderfulJoe: Thanks10:43
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julianowhere's the pendrive's folder in kubuntu?10:45
viatoryou want to record rhapsody streams10:45
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viatori bet10:45
jindiazhey guys i have some questions about setting up a dula boot system, can anyone give me some straight answers for like 5 mins?10:46
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viatoraks'10:47
viatorask away\10:47
Vgesomebody can tell why cant i use port 6667 on kernel 2.6.17, but 2.6.10 works well?10:47
jindiazcool, ok firs thing is, after i install the kubuntu onto my main hd, does windows have a problem with reading from linux formateed hd's??10:48
jindiazi have 4 hd's10:48
viatorwindows cant read linux drives10:48
viatoronluss maybe its ext210:48
viatortheres a driver for windows10:49
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jindiazcrapppppppppp that sucks alot....10:49
viatorthats not to say you cant have a samba share10:49
viatoryou would have to make a pation vfat or somthing10:50
jindiazok well it doesnt matter i suppose, the only purpose for windows is games, and maybe photoshop.  of my 960 gb, its only getting like 50gb, the rest is linux10:50
qpwoeirutyi have used the driver at www.fs-driver.org to read EXT volumes under windows10:50
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qpwoeirutyit reads EXT3 as EXT2, so it seems to force an fsck when you reboot into linux10:50
viatorgpwoeiruty  does ext3 well then?10:50
jindiazyah, but the thing is, its 4 hds internally.  so the samba share prolly wont work10:51
qpwoeirutyit reads them as EXT2, but yes it works fine10:51
viatorcool10:51
jindiazok, so that was my first concern, second is after i have moved all my data from the other hds, how do i format them into the linux format10:52
jindiazwhich i dont knoe what that is called either btwe10:52
Tallia1KubuntuDeBert: i found another way!!10:52
viatorthe installer will do it10:52
viatorit uses partimage10:52
Tallia1KubuntuDeBert: once you have mplayer plugin open in firefox, just Save Page As... and the stream is downloaded.. USING log in information too :):)10:52
Tallia1Kubuntuawesome!10:52
viatora script/app to do anything you like10:53
viatorthink of it like partion magic10:53
viatoror somthing like that10:53
jindiazbut they will be in ntfs format and have data during the install, i plan to unplug them while kubunt is being installed, and afterwards do all that moving around10:53
jindiazthe thing is, the data will be moved around alot10:53
jindiazof the 960gb, like 800 gb is taken up10:54
Vgehttp://kubuntu.pastebin.com/650175 <-- do i need iptables?10:54
viatoryoulol10:54
viator800 gb is that movies?10:54
viatormusic?10:54
jindiaznope, alllllllllllll movies are burnt, music is only 80 gb10:54
viatoryou already should have iptables10:54
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viatorwhats taking up the space?10:54
Vgeviator:  this is new kernel, do i need it?10:55
viatorvge yes10:55
viatorid get it10:55
qpwoeirutyjindiaz - how is that 960G setup - windows RAID? hardware RAID?10:55
jindiazwell i belive i pay for internet, so why pay for tv?  it "should" be all inclusive... lol.  so its all tv shows, anime, regular tc, cartoons, everything, ive turned my pc into the all inclusive machine... its beautiful10:56
jindiazhahaha10:56
jindiazummmmmmmmm hardware raid i believe, i have an asus p4p800-e deluxe mobo, it supports to hda ports10:56
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jindiazso each one off the mobo goes to two hd's10:56
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jindiazbut anywho, so after i set them up so linux recognizes them, which ive had to do before, it will styll be in NTFS fromat, what im wondering is, is there a format command, or GUI in kde somewhere for this purpose?10:58
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comradedoes kubuntu install koffice or whatever and open office?10:59
jindiazipen office man10:59
jindiazit comes with it11:00
qpwoeirutyjindiaz - are you wanting to change the format without losing the data?11:00
viatoryou cant change a drives filetype as far as i know from ntfs to somthing else without losing data11:00
jindiazYOU CAN DO THAT!?!?!?!?!?!11:00
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comradeso no koffice then11:00
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viatormakefs11:00
viatordoesnt work that way11:00
jindiazyahhh i didnt think so, that would be hardcroe.  lol.  but no, ill have all the data transfered, so they will be empty ntfs drives11:00
jindiazthey just need to be formated11:01
viatorif the drives are empty11:01
jindiazinto the format filesystem that linux uses11:01
viatorjust leave them in there11:01
viatorwhen you install11:01
viatoror you can11:01
viatorafterwarsd11:01
viatoruse11:01
viatorqtparted11:01
Parkotronjindiaz: You may want to consider11:02
jindiazlol, well no, they will be empty after the install, because i have to do alot of file moving around after kubuntu is installed11:02
qpwoeirutyi might suggest using qtparted or cfdisk to delete the ntfs partitions11:02
viatori see11:02
qpwoeirutyand create new ones, then format11:02
Vgehttp://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1497176 <-- what "processor family" i can put to my processor, i have 386 now :/11:02
qpwoeirutyso that the partition type number is correct11:02
jindiazok cool, so qtparted or cfdisk, is ther a page i can read about how to properly use these commands?11:03
viatorintel celeron i68611:04
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viatori dont touch a vanilla kernel unless i need somthing specific that a recompile will give me11:05
viatorbut each to their own11:05
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Vgeviator: well it does, thats the point11:05
viatordont look for any serios sped increases or anything11:06
Vgei know11:06
qpwoeirutyjindiaz - they are both pretty straightforward to use11:06
Vge586/K5/5x86/6x86/6x86MX <-- this one?11:06
qpwoeirutyif you search there are a few articles on how to use qtparted with knoppix11:07
viatorweird11:08
jindiazok cool, so i guess its fundamenetally the same.  the thing is i just want to get it right the first time on my main pc.  this is my downgrade pc that i have linux on now and want to switch my main pc to linux as well, but need windows for games and such.  my main pc is too sexy to mess up... hahaha11:09
jindiazits my tv, stereo, everthing in one, so sorta have to get it ryght11:10
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viatorthose arent yours11:10
jindiazthose arenmt mine?  are yu talking to me???11:12
jindiazhey actually one more question in regards to my vid card and monitor, i purchased them specifically for this linux switch11:13
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jindiazi bought a nvidia 6600 gt agp, cause its an agp mobo so didnt want to buy something to good ryght now, waiting on the pci conversion to like next year, but anyways, is there a gui for customizing the nvida settings???11:14
jindiazi got nvidia cause it works well with linux11:14
jindiazapparently11:14
jindiazand second, the monitor is an acer 1916 widescreen, does linux have problems with widescreen support??? plz say no11:14
jindiazhahaha11:14
tarmathit does not11:15
LeeJunFanway better than ATI, but unfortunately I've been cursed with ATI on all my latest laptops in the last 4 or so years so I don't know about the nvidia tools.11:15
qpwoeirutyjindiaz - my dell 2005fpw widescreen works perfectly11:15
LeeJunFanwidescreen is fine.11:15
tarmathand generally you dont need to configure the settings, the auto detection alone should do it11:15
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LeeJunFanI'm done with ATI, all my next purchases will be nvidia. ATI and linux sucks.11:16
qpwoeirutyi've been burned by ATI 3 times over the years11:16
tarmathlinux sucks? WHAT?11:16
tarmathhehe11:16
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qpwoeirutywhich happens to be the same number of cards that i have bought from them11:16
qpwoeirutyi keep getting fooled by reviews saying they are great11:17
tarmathATI sucks for not making good linux drivers11:17
jindiazhahahahahaha, yah man, i put my old ati radeon 7500 into this downgrade pc, and it wouldnt boot afterwards, had to reinstall the whole os to get it up and running again11:17
jindiazi was so pissed11:17
qpwoeirutynothing but problems in Linux11:17
LeeJunFanqpwoeiruty: yeah, either their drivers only work on kernels released 6 months ago, and/or they don't support half the features as well as nvidia.11:17
qpwoeirutyi have the same issues under Windows with them11:17
LeeJunFanqpwoeiruty: under windows I use the omega drivers, at least it's a little better control panel.11:18
jindiazand hoenstly, when yu lok at the comparisson reviews online, nvidia is constantly blowing ati out of the water on price and performance ratios11:18
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jindiazlike  purely based on functionality, no bias.11:18
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qpwoeirutyOmega has helped, but i still get some random lockups11:18
LeeJunFanI've already got my eyes on a new sager/clevo with nvidia.11:19
jindiazthe onlyyyyyyyyyyy thing with nvidia i am finidng is they run quite hot11:19
qpwoeirutymy new thinkpad has ATI and it took me hours to get X and console framebuffer working11:19
jindiazbut have quite a high heat threshiold which is ok, but the heat production kind of sux.  im pretty anal about case temperature... so for me it was a semi issue11:20
jindiazgames have like an automatic jump of 10 degrees off the bat11:20
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OdyXydOHey guys (& girls)11:21
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OdyXI'm looking for a good KDE (or QT) program to "rip" DVD's (to ogg-xvid-vorbis or better ogg-theora-vorbis).11:22
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jindiazcool, thanks again eveyone for the input on that stuff.  have a good one all.  cheers.11:28
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OdyXOK. found Thoggen.11:33
OdyXSeems good.11:33
OdyXThanks all.11:33
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vgelets see if the kernel version 11 is the lucky one11:41
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_jeffey gangsters11:46
_jeffdoes anybody use ktorrent?11:46
_jeffktorrenters?11:47
SkrotI used to. Why?11:48
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OdyXI do.11:50
OdyX_jeff: we do use Ktorrent. What's your problem ?11:50
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