[12:14] <_spiritz> the new amarok seems to require libmysqlclient15off; I have a dependence called libmysqlclient15 but no *off one.
[12:23] <_spiritz> spoke too fast, sorry
[01:02] <StarZenD> apt-get times out nomatter what sources.list i seem to use
[01:03] <StarZenD> suggestions anyone?
[01:03] <McScruff> hmm
[01:03] <McScruff> in commandline?
[01:03] <StarZenD> yes, in commandline
[01:04] <Tm_T> StarZenD: well, what mirrors you tried
[01:04] <McScruff> does it time out for all sources ?
[01:04] <StarZenD> it does
[01:04] <Tm_T> McScruff: good point
[01:04] <Tm_T> StarZenD: put your current sources.list to kubuntu.pastebin.com
[01:04] <StarZenD> Tm_T: the default ones, as well as the ones generated from the source-o-matic on the ubuntu site with both the nz country code and no country code
[01:04] <StarZenD> okay
[01:05] <McScruff> there might be a typo in the list somewhere
[01:06] <StarZenD> http://www.kubuntu.pastebin.com/648602
[01:06] <tRSS> hey guys, what do I have to edit to mount my windows network shares at boot time? I can mount them right now manually
[01:06] <duelboot> anyone know how I can get my K apps to look like gnome when I'm in gnome?
[01:08] <McScruff> ...
[01:08] <McScruff> they use 2 different things (cant remember what their called) kde = QT and gnome uses gtk i think
[01:08] <McScruff> so unless you can reprograme it :S
[01:09] <duelboot> easyubuntu had an option to do that, but it didn't work for me
[01:10] <paulvolk> Hello
[01:10] <StarZenD> Hello
[01:10] <paulvolk> I was wondering how I would change my KDE theme in Kubuntu
[01:10] <paulvolk> ?
[01:12] <paulvolk> can anyone tell me how?
[01:12] <StarZenD> I cant. im a newbie
[01:12] <noteventime> paulvolk, You got a theme from somewhere?
[01:12] <paulvolk> Ya
[01:13] <noteventime> You probably need to comile it
[01:13] <noteventime> compile*
[01:13] <noteventime> Is it a style or a window decoration?
[01:14] <paulvolk> it is a .kth file
[01:16] <paulvolk> I have used Suse so I am not a total linux noob
[01:16] <paulvolk> but in suse it has a theme manager in the Kontrol centre
[01:17] <Snake__> Riddell: are you around?
[01:18] <paulvolk> noteventime: do you know how I could apply them?
[01:18] <tafsen> How can I enable SSH using the consoll?
[01:18] <noteventime> Yes, in kcontrol
[01:19] <beefsprocket> tafsen: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[01:19] <noteventime> sorry paulvolk, I had to go for a second back now
[01:19] <noteventime> try the theme manager in kcontrol
[01:19] <paulvolk> where is it I can't seem to find it
[01:19] <tafsen> beefsprocket: it's installed, only need to configure the firewall to lett it trough.
[01:19] <beefsprocket> tafsen: it is running?
[01:20] <noteventime> first start kcontrol , from a console or from "Run command"
[01:20] <noteventime> kdesu kcontrol
[01:20] <noteventime> In the appearance part there should be one called theme manager
[01:21] <tafsen> beefsprocket: I've done it before, I just can't remember the command.  When I typed the command a interface showed up where I could chose what type of connection to let trough
[01:22] <beefsprocket> tafsen: iptables right?
[01:22] <tafsen> beefsprocket: I don't know really.  But I guess that could be it
[01:23] <beefsprocket> I've not configured it from the command line, i just use kmyfirewall
[01:23] <paulvolk> Thanks
[01:23] <noteventime> did it work?
[01:23] <beefsprocket> which is a gui frontend for iptables
[01:23] <beefsprocket> sorry I can't help more
[01:24] <noteventime> tafsen, iptables or an external firewall?
[01:24] <tafsen> noteventime: iptables
[01:24] <noteventime> ohh, ok
[01:24] <noteventime> !iptables
[01:25] <noteventime> Might want to try #iptables
[01:25] <noteventime> Sorry, Can't help any more
[01:26] <paulvolk> could some one point me to a list of reositories?
[01:27] <Snake__> !sources
[01:27] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[01:28] <Snake__> hey ryanakca___
[01:28] <Riddell> Snake__: hmm?
[01:29] <Snake__> Riddell: may I message you if you have a moment?
[01:29] <Riddell> ok
[01:36] <Snake__> Riddell: (msg sent.. heh)
[01:39] <StarZenD> hmm. odd.
[01:39] <ryanakca> Snake__: hey... gah... I have a pile of lag ghosts....
[01:39] <ryanakca> can someone kick them please?
[01:39] <StarZenD> if i "host security.ubuntu.com" then "sudo apt-get update" doesnt time out till i get to archive.ubuntu.com in the sources.list file
[01:39] <StarZenD> whats going on?
[01:43] <jrobkub> hi, i tried installing kubuntu on my 2nd hd and grub on the mbr of my 1st hd, my system wont boot, how do i repair grub?
[01:48] <paulvolk> How would I update to KDE 3.5 from 3.4?
[01:50] <Snake__> Riddell: Have you ignored me :) lol
[01:50] <Snake__> !kde3.5
[01:50] <ubotu> To upgrade to to the latest KDE3.5, Follow the instructions at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-352.php (add the deb... line to your sources.list). Then "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".
[02:01] <_AgK> Welchen C Compiler kann man fr ./configure unter breezy nutzen?
[02:02] <noteventime> !de
[02:02] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de
[02:02] <noteventime> _AgK, du brauchst build-essential
[02:03] <noteventime> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:03] <_AgK> mom ich probiers
[02:04] <_AgK> achso da installiert er alles zum compilen?
[02:05] <_AgK> passt fett
[02:05] <_AgK> thx noteventime
[02:05] <noteventime> np :)
[02:06] <noteventime> !i810
[02:06] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, noteventime
[02:06] <noteventime> !mesa
[02:06] <ubotu> noteventime: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:07] <nrdb> Hi I am trying to make a 'glade 2' program, when in the main project directory the tutorial says to run './autogen.sh' when I do this I get the error message "**Error**: You must have `glib' installed." but adept says I have both libglib1.2 and libglib2.0-0 installed.  does anyone know what going on?
[02:07] <noteventime> !I_HATE_INTEL
[02:07] <ubotu> noteventime: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:07] <noteventime> nrdb, do you have glib-dev?
[02:07] <nrdb> noteventime: no I don't
[02:08] <noteventime> If it exists, or anyone with a similar name, try installing it
[02:08] <nrdb> noteventime: which one should I install?
[02:09] <noteventime> I would try libglib2.0-dev first
[02:09] <__AgK> checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths! - fehlt mir da noch ein paket?
[02:09] <nrdb> noteventime: ok
[02:09] <noteventime> _AgK, Ja
[02:09] <noteventime> One moment please
[02:10] <__AgK> ok
[02:10] <noteventime> _AgK, x-window-system-dev i think
[02:11] <noteventime> And next time please stick to English in this channel ;)
[02:11] <noteventime> There is a german one
[02:12] <__AgK> im sorry i did not notice
[02:12] <noteventime> np :)
[02:13] <noteventime> Did it help?
[02:15] <__AgK> checking for libjpeg... no
[02:15] <__AgK> configure: WARNING: libjpeg not found. disable JPEG support.
[02:15] <__AgK> checking for perl... /usr/bin/perl
[02:15] <__AgK> checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.2 and < 4.0) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
[02:15] <__AgK> now a new error =9
[02:16] <__AgK> i cant find headers in synaptic
[02:16] <__AgK> running qt 3.3.4
[02:16] <noteventime> libqt3-headers
[02:16] <noteventime> ?
[02:17] <__AgK> lol thx
[02:17] <__AgK> and which libraries does it mean?
[02:18] <__AgK> sorry for stupid questions its my first time compiling something
[02:18] <elijahlofgren> __AgK: Let me check.
[02:19] <__AgK> libqt3-mt i think ill try again
[02:19] <__AgK> this was installed already
[02:20] <__AgK> same result
[02:20] <jonathan_> I'm just curious, does anyone in here use xine and have horrible fonts ?
[02:20] <elijahlofgren> __AgK: Maybe: libqt3-mt-dev ?
[02:21] <__AgK> trying
[02:21] <nrdb> noteventime: that worked, I had to install another package libgnomeui-dev and didn
[02:22] <noteventime> ok :)
[02:22] <arrinmurr> jonathan_: you mean in xine-ui? i think i used to have that problem a long time ago in debian. but why don't you use kaffeine? ;)
[02:22] <jonathan_> kaffine has issues with dvds
[02:22] <jonathan_> for some reason
[02:22] <arrinmurr> jonathan_: oh, i haven't faced any
[02:22] <noteventime> __AgK, Sorry, didn't work?
[02:22] <nrdb> oh doesn't it have issues
[02:22] <jonathan_> and i use what i'm used to, that's probably most of it
[02:24] <__AgK> it did
[02:24] <noteventime> good :)
[02:24] <__AgK> but now another error
[02:24] <__AgK> checking for KDE... configure: error:
[02:24] <__AgK> in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.
[02:24] <__AgK> So, check this please and use another prefix!
[02:25] <crimsun> (you don't appear to have kdebase-dev installed?)
[02:26] <__AgK> it wasnt i check if it works
[02:26] <__AgK> btw thanks for the great help
[02:27] <__AgK> Good - your configure finished. Start make now
[02:27] <__AgK> =)
[02:29] <__AgK> about 100mb i installed now with all these packages for compiling i didnt think it would be that much
[02:29] <__AgK> just to install a 200 kb prog hehe
[02:30] <jonathan_> ok, i'm dumb, kaffine works
[02:30] <__AgK> it works!
[02:30] <Reflektionz98> i am having a problem enabling a network interface, can anyone help me out?
[02:30] <jonathan_> It's finally happened....I can finally do everything I want with Linux!!
[02:31] <jonathan_> I have just really been impressed with how linux on the desktop has progressed
[02:32] <Reflektionz98> Anyone????
[02:32] <__AgK> Whats exactly the problem?
[02:33] <__AgK> Reflektionz
[02:33] <Reflektionz98> i had the connection working for a few days, but all of a sudden....
[02:33] <Reflektionz98> i didn't have internet access
[02:33] <Reflektionz98> so i checked my network settings
[02:34] <Reflektionz98> and noticed that eth0 was disabled
[02:34] <Reflektionz98> i don't know why that happened but i tried to reenable it
[02:34] <Reflektionz98> for less than 1/2 second it said enabled and was disabled again
[02:35] <Reflektionz98> every time i enable it , it disables immediatly
[02:35] <__AgK> hm and the modem does funktion?
[02:35] <__AgK> what type of connection?
[02:35] <Reflektionz98> my windows partition is what i am using to access the web at the moment cuz obviously kubuntu won't
[02:36] <Reflektionz98> cable connection
[02:36] <__AgK> hm
[02:36] <Reflektionz98> yes windows partition works great
[02:37] <Reflektionz98> kubuntu partition just won't keep eth0 enabled
[02:37] <__AgK> maybe u try to specify the dns server?
[02:37] <Reflektionz98> i didn't check on that
[02:37] <__AgK> i dont know if it works
[02:38] <Reflektionz98> i will try it
[02:38] <__AgK> u can look in windows which it uses
[02:38] <Reflektionz98> what else might it be if that doesn't work
[02:38] <Ranma> Hi to all I jusr wanna know if it's possible to use tv out with radeon driver
[02:38] <__AgK> and ip to
[02:39] <Reflektionz98> i'll be back i'm gonna check dns
[02:42] <juliano> there's a synaptic in kubuntu?
[02:42] <arrinmurr> juliano: there's adept
[02:42] <juliano> allright
[02:43] <juliano> does the same as synaptic?
[02:43] <arrinmurr> juliano: yeah
[02:43] <__AgK> im using synaptic in kubuntu
[02:46] <davix> can some one tell me why the kubuntu (dapper 6) cd won't load on bios?
[02:47] <davix> the ubuntu (dapper 6) has no problem booting
[02:47] <davix> just the kubuntu one
[03:08] <Reflektionz98> __Agk: dns was set right, IP was set to DHCP as always
[03:08] <Reflektionz98> don't know what it could be
[03:16] <kenshirou> hello all - anyone have the latest NVidia drivers installed?
[03:17] <StarZenD> im having trouble resolving addresses..
[03:18] <StarZenD> where would i start looking to fix it?
[03:19] <__AgK> reflektion i have cable to no problems in ubuntu but in win i need to specify ip gateway dns ... for the connection to work
[03:19] <Snake__> http://feuerfrei.kicks-ass.net/PlayRadio.m3u Imagi-Nation Station has a first time DJ! Tune in! Classic Rock!
[03:22] <kenshirou> !nvidia
[03:22] <ubotu> methinks nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[03:26] <ndg> ciao
[03:30] <Danny> hey everyone :D
[03:30] <CheeseBurgerMan> Hey
[03:30] <Danny> anyone know why my "make" command isn't working
[03:31] <Danny> cuz its supposed to work..right?
[03:31] <CheeseBurgerMan> have you installed build-essential?
[03:31] <Danny> no..
[03:31] <Danny> going to now
[03:31] <CheeseBurgerMan> ok
[03:32] <Snake__> http://feuerfrei.kicks-ass.net/PlayRadio.m3u Imagi-Nation Station has a first time DJ! Tune in! Classic Rock!
[03:32] <ndg> #torino
[03:32] <Danny> yay works
[03:32] <Danny> lol
[03:32] <Danny> thanks CheeseBurgerMan
[03:33] <Danny> do you like cheese burgers?
[03:33] <CheeseBurgerMan> Not particularly. :P
[03:35] <Danny> lol
[03:36] <Danny> ok..how do I copy files to a dir that I can't
[03:36] <Danny> cuz I'm not root
[03:36] <CheeseBurgerMan> sudo cp path/to/file path/to/place/to/copy
[03:36] <flodine> hello guys just wondering how do i just add a window decorator theme
[03:37] <Danny> thanks
[03:38] <flodine> i can install a theme but just the decorations i cant get
[03:38] <Danny> how do I copy a folder?
[03:39] <flodine> anyone please help or just give me a good link
[03:40] <robotgeek> flodine: on dapper, lots in the default install
[03:40] <flodine> i know i just to add one is there a /.theme folder or something
[03:41] <metalhedd> ever since about a week ago the adept updater has been giving me an error about mimetypes just before it starts up, seems to work fine though, anyone know whats going on?
[03:42] <flodine> why is there no add button for window decoration
[03:43] <flodine> how can you add if there no where to add
[03:43] <Danny> how do you copy folders?
[03:44] <Danny> I am in  anormal user account
[03:44] <Danny> I just did sudo -i
[03:44] <Danny> anyway
[03:44] <Danny> it says this:
[03:44] <Danny> root@dknoppix:~# cp /html /usr/local/bin/peercast
[03:44] <Danny> cp: cannot stat `/html': No such file or directory
[03:44] <CheeseBurgerMan> Danny: try running konqueror from the root shell. :P
[03:44] <Danny> how do I do that?
[03:45] <Danny> kdesu konqueror
[03:45] <Danny> ?
[03:45] <CheeseBurgerMan> type in konqueror...
[03:45] <Danny> from a run
[03:45] <CheeseBurgerMan> ;)
[03:45] <CheeseBurgerMan> No, just type 'konqueror' in the root shell
[03:45] <Danny> cannot connect to X server
[03:45] <Danny> yup
[03:46] <Danny> kdesu works
[03:46] <CheeseBurgerMan> OK, kdesu it. :P
[03:46] <Danny> yay
[03:47] <CheeseBurgerMan> :)
[03:47] <ernesto> Buenas noches
[03:47] <ernesto> tengo una pregunta algo rara...
[03:47] <ernesto> alguien se atreve???
[03:48] <CheeseBurgerMan> !es
[03:48] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:48] <CheeseBurgerMan> I think I got the language right. :P
[03:48] <Danny> lol
[03:48] <Danny> yeah
[03:48] <Danny> you did
[03:48] <CheeseBurgerMan> Good. :)
[03:48] <Danny> anyone ever you peercast?
[03:49] <CheeseBurgerMan> nope
[03:49] <kevin> what is peercasting?
[03:49] <Danny> its a program
[03:49] <kevin> nope
[03:49] <Danny> http://www.peercast.org/wiki/wakka.php?wakka=PeerCast
[03:49] <Danny> or when you launch a new program
[03:50] <Danny> is it supposed to launch fast
[03:50] <Danny> cuz I did:
[03:50] <Danny> ./peercast
[03:50] <Danny> and its just hanging
[03:50] <CheeseBurgerMan> I assume you're in the right dir. ;)
[03:50] <tarmath> anyone knows which gcc will be included in dapper^
[03:50] <CheeseBurgerMan> Is is peercast.sh or peercast.py?
[03:51] <Danny> yes
[03:51] <Danny> none
[03:51] <Danny> its just ann app
[03:51] <CheeseBurgerMan> try sh ./peercast
[03:52] <Danny> nope
[03:52] <Danny> not sh
[03:52] <tarmath> Danny: maybe it is running? open another terminal and type ps aux | grep peercast
[03:52] <Danny> how do i know?
[03:53] <tarmath> know what, whats the output
[03:53] <Danny> dk       29124  0.0  0.2  36128  1372 ?        Sl   21:16   0:00 /home/dk/Desktop/peercast
[03:53] <Danny> dk       29141  0.2  0.2  19732  1364 ?        Sl   21:16   0:04 ./peercast
[03:53] <Danny> dk       30852  0.0  0.1   3060   752 pts/5    S+   21:52   0:00 grep peercast
[03:53] <tarmath> yea it's running
[03:53] <tarmath> is there supposed to be a gui or is this some kind of service
[03:53] <Danny> oh ok
[03:53] <Danny> I think theres supposed to be a gui..
[03:54] <tarmath> by the way, "ps" shows a process list... so you know it's running if it shows up
[03:55] <tarmath> if you want to kill it, type kill and it's process id, in this case kill 29141
[03:56] <tarmath> or you could do it more drastically with killall peercast
[03:56] <Danny> ooh!
[03:56] <Danny> lol
[03:56] <tarmath> what? you found the gui window ?
[03:57] <Danny> no
[03:57] <Danny> I like drastically doing things
[03:57] <tarmath> if you want a complete list of processes running on your box, simply type ps aux
[03:57] <Danny> its only 10 :/
[03:58] <tarmath> apparently we're in the same time zone
[03:58] <Danny> cool
[03:58] <Danny> ouch
[03:58] <Danny> my laptop is hot
[03:58] <Danny> like more than 100 degrees on the bottom
[03:58] <paulvolk> Hello
[03:58] <Danny> I've gotten many burns from it
[03:58] <tarmath> hi
[03:58] <paulvolk> How would I compile a theme in Kubuntu
[03:58] <paulvolk> ?
[03:59] <tarmath> you know some people have gone infertile because of the constant heat of their laptops on their laps?
[03:59] <kevin> 10.00am or 10.00pm Danny?
[03:59] <Danny> pm
[03:59] <kevin> it is 12 noon sunday where I am
[03:59] <Danny> it feels like 3 am
[04:00] <Danny> wow
[04:00] <tarmath> paulvolk: compile a theme?
[04:00] <paulvolk> ya
[04:00] <tarmath> paulvolk: or install one?
[04:00] <Danny> for spring break :D
[04:00] <kevin> nice...
[04:00] <kevin> :D
[04:00] <paulvolk> well I want to install it but it has to be compiled
[04:00] <Hobbsee> !compile
[04:00] <ubotu> A nice howto about compiling software from source code can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (but remember to search !apt first, after adding all the !repos)
[04:01] <tarmath> paulvolk: are you sure about that?
[04:02] <robotgeek> Danny: no scripts please
[04:03] <Danny> sorry :(
[04:05] <Danny> how do you delete something via termial
[04:05] <robotgeek> Danny: rm <file>
[04:05] <Hobbsee> Danny: rm filename
[04:05] <robotgeek> !cli
[04:05] <ubotu> CLI means Command Line Interface, aka the terminal or console. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/ or http://www.tuxfiles.org
[04:07] <paulvolk> how would I install kbfx?
[04:07] <Danny> ty
[04:07] <Hobbsee> !info kbfx
[04:07] <Danny> uh
[04:07] <Hobbsee> !info kbfx dapper
[04:07] <Danny> i can't remove a directory
[04:07] <Hobbsee> darn!
[04:07] <Hobbsee> Danny: rmdir directory
[04:07] <Hobbsee> make sure it's empty first
[04:08] <robotgeek> Danny: read that link ^^
[04:08] <Danny> thanks
[04:08] <Xaero_Vincent> is there a Gaim equivelent in KDE?
[04:08] <Hobbsee> paulvolk: i think you have to compile it - but it was accepted into dapper, IIRC
[04:08] <Xaero_Vincent> for*
[04:08] <robotgeek> Xaero_Vincent: kopete
[04:08] <Danny> how come I don't have any sound coming from firefox?
[04:09] <Xaero_Vincent> but does Kopete join chatrooms?
[04:09] <Xaero_Vincent> like Gaim does
[04:09] <robotgeek> Xaero_Vincent: irc chatrooms?
[04:09] <Xaero_Vincent> no like MSN and Yahoo chatrooms
[04:09] <robotgeek> Xaero_Vincent: no clue, sorry
[04:11] <StarZenD> yes, kopete does join irc chats
[04:12] <Danny> why can't I delete anything now?
[04:18] <juliano> i'm having problem running adept, it does not work when i try to run it as root
[04:18] <juliano> anyone knows why?
[04:29] <kevin> adept (the gui) asks you for your admin password .. then it is root
[04:31] <phoch> has anyone configured Sea Monkey on Kubuntu?
[04:36] <Danny> brb
[04:40] <carthik> what is the equivalent of gnome-volume-manager on KDE? I was helping someone debug a problem, and need to know
[04:41] <psi_force>  if ubuntu-server and ubuntu share the same repositories and installer, what is the purpose other then a specialised kernel package?
[04:42] <Danny> hey everyone
[04:42] <Danny> when I go to "Storage Media"
[04:43] <Danny> nothing shows up
[04:43] <noteventime> Does someone know how to get the source for the i810 drivers?
[04:44] <noteventime> i REALLY need it :)
[04:47] <jehnx> I need help with accessing my XP partition on my hard drive.. I mounted it to /mnt/sda2, but now I can't access it unless I su first.
[04:47] <jehnx> I need everyone to be able to access it, read-only.
[04:48] <Danny> jehnx: hit Alt-F2 and type "kdesu kcontrol"
[04:48] <Danny> then enter your password
[04:48] <jehnx> I've tried changing the owner to my user by "sudo chown jehnx /mnt/sda2" but it doesn't work.. it says it works, but when I go into /mnt/sda2 in a browser it doesn't allow me in.
[04:48] <jehnx> Ok, let me try that, Danny.
[04:48] <Danny> when it loads, go to system administration -->Disk and File Systems
[04:49] <Danny> find your hard drive, and click "Modify"
[04:49] <jehnx> When I click on that hard drive, the "modify" button goes blank.
[04:50] <jehnx> Any idea why it would be like that?
[04:50] <Danny> what if you click on the thing that says something like: 2 Partition <size>
[04:50] <Danny> find the ntfs partiton
[04:51] <jehnx> Yeah, that's what I mean.. when i click on that partition, it goes blank.  I can "modify" any of my linux partitions, but can't do the XP one.
[04:51] <jehnx> It doesn't say the type is ntfs, either.. it's just blank.
[04:51] <StarZenD> besides xine and gstreamer are there any engines that will play mp3s?
[04:51] <Danny> oh..that shouldn't happen
[04:51] <jehnx> Danny, do you know what I could do to fix it?
[04:52] <jehnx> If I use su I can view the files in konsole, but I'd like access to them on at least my normal username so taht I can do things with the files taht I need to work on any whatnot.
[04:52] <jehnx> that*
[04:53] <Danny> hmm
[04:53] <Danny> Sorry...try posting on the forums
[04:53] <Danny> unless anyone here knows
[04:55] <jehnx> Anyone?
[04:55] <jehnx> And thanks for your help, Danny.  :)
[04:59] <Hobbsee> jehnx: what's the questoin?
[04:59] <noteventime> !kernelmodules
[04:59] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, noteventime
[04:59] <noteventime> !kernel modules
[04:59] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, noteventime
[04:59] <jehnx> Hobbsee:  I'm trying to mount another partition onto my hard drive.  I get it mounted into /mnt/sda2, but it's only accessible to root/su, no other users.  When I try to chmod and chown, it comes up and says "chown: changing ownership of '/mnt/sda2': Read-only file system" which makes me think it's working, but when I browse to it it doesn't work, and still the only way I can access it is via su or root in a konsole.
[04:59] <noteventime> !kernel_modules
[04:59] <ubotu> noteventime: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:00] <jehnx> I go to my disk manager utility in KDE, and it shows up as a paritiont, but doesn't have ntfs as the "type," and doesn't allow me to modify it, whereas with the other partitions I can modify them just fine.. the button goes blank when I try it with this one, though.
[05:00] <noteventime> jehnx, What filesystem is it?
[05:00] <jehnx> noteventime: It's XP, so I imagine NTFS.
[05:00] <jehnx> afaik that's it
[05:00] <Hobbsee> jehnx: post your /etc/fstab to pastebin please?
[05:00] <noteventime> You cant write to NTFS, and for the reading part
[05:00] <Hobbsee> also, df -h -T
[05:00] <noteventime> mom
[05:00] <jehnx> noteventime: Yeh, all I want to do is read from it so I can access my office files, music, etc.
[05:01] <noteventime> add these options fmask=0111,dmask=0000,uid=0,gid=0,auto,ro,users
[05:01] <noteventime> in fstab
[05:01] <noteventime> here is my full windows line:
[05:01] <noteventime>  /dev/sda1 /windows/ ntfs fmask=0111,dmask=0000,uid=0,gid=0,auto,ro,users 0 0
[05:02] <Hobbsee> its' definetly ntfs?
[05:02] <Hobbsee> jehnx: my windows line is this:  /dev/hda1       /media/windows  ntfs    nls=utf8,ro,user,umask=000 0       0
[05:02] <Hobbsee> noteventime: that looks way more complicated than needed..
[05:03] <noteventime> Might be
[05:03] <noteventime> :D
[05:03] <Hobbsee> hehe
[05:03] <noteventime> Looks like some persmission stuff
[05:03] <jehnx> Yeh, mine doesn't even had the sda2 one
[05:03] <noteventime> I got it from somewere else so I didn't want to mess with it
[05:04] <jehnx> How can I open as root?
[05:04] <jehnx> It wo'nt let me save otherwise
[05:05] <Hobbsee> sudo nano /etc/fstab
[05:05] <noteventime> !ntfs
[05:05] <ubotu> rumour has it, ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[05:05] <noteventime> ^- did you take a look at that?
[05:05] <Hobbsee> or kdesu kate /etc/fstab
[05:05] <jehnx> nope, didn't
[05:06] <Danny> Hobbsee, can a creative zen work with amarok or any other proggie?
[05:06] <Hobbsee> got no idea
[05:06] <noteventime> Anyway, its getting late (5 AM) -_- --zzZZ bye people
[05:07] <Wizz_Kidd> any of you use cedega
[05:07] <jehnx> K, did that, let's see if it works.
[05:07] <jehnx> Thanks folks.
[05:07] <Hobbsee> jehnx: yep, sudo mount -a
[05:07] <Hobbsee> Wizz_Kidd: ask in #cedega
[05:07] <Wizz_Kidd> i seee
[05:08] <Wizz_Kidd> i was just gonna ask if it cost money :P
[05:08] <Danny> can I run gnome apps on KDE?
[05:08] <Hobbsee> yes it does
[05:08] <Hobbsee> Danny: yes
[05:08] <Danny> yay
[05:08] <Hobbsee> Danny: and you can run kde apps on gnome, and xfce apps on either, etc, etc, etc
[05:08] <kosh> you can run any of the apps in any of the environments
[05:09] <Danny> ok thanks
[05:10] <jehnx> Where would it be after I ran that program?
[05:10] <jehnx> I don't see any new /mnt directories
[05:11] <jehnx> n/m
[05:11] <jehnx> I found it, under /media
[05:11] <Hobbsee> yay :)
[05:11] <jehnx> Thanks guys for your help!  :)
[05:12] <Hobbsee> not a problem
[05:13] <jehnx> Actually, n/m, it mounted one of them and the other one is still root-only
[05:13] <jehnx> eff.
[05:13] <jehnx> Two partitions are on it, one is the HP "drive recovery" crap, and the other is the one I want.. the one I want is the one taht won't change.
[05:14] <jehnx> let me try to modify it manually as you guys suggested
[05:14] <Hobbsee> probably a good idea
[05:19] <chris> i want to dual boot, but after i installed ubuntu, windows won't boot. is it easier to install ubuntu first?
[05:22] <jehnx> I get this when I try to chown
[05:22] <jehnx> jehnx@r253240100:~$ sudo chown jehnx /media/sda2
[05:22] <jehnx> chown: changing ownership of `/media/sda2': Read-only file system
[05:23] <jehnx> But it doesn't change any ownership
[05:24] <_bbeck> jehnx: You can't change the mode of a read-only filesystem.
[05:25] <jehnx> Can I change the read-ability of it, though?
[05:25] <jehnx> I jsut want a user to be able to access it
[05:26] <nrdb> I am using a gtk list view to create widget, it has three columns, is it posible to get columns one and three fixed width with the center column variable?
[05:33] <_bbeck> jehnx: what are the permissions of /media/sda2?
[05:34] <jehnx> "total 0"
[05:34] <jehnx> _bbeck, that's all it says when I sudo ls -l
[05:34] <jehnx> n/m, sudo asl gives me: drwxr-xr-x
[06:18] <Danny> anyone here?
[06:29] <`m5m> I have one Kdm session that's not allowing me to click or type... it's frozen to my input... locked up when I was trying to right-click move a file... any thoughts on how to unfreeze it?
[06:30] <mustard5> is there any special instructions for playing mp3's in KDE?
[06:30] <mustard5> I've done it with gstreamer on gnome, but just curious how it works with KDE
[06:31] <mustard5> !mp3
[06:31] <Glin|Jol> Winamp  5.20 Stopped
[06:31] <ubotu> well, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:36] <Ranma> does anyone knows where i can get the Kernel 2.6.15-20.30 without upgrading to dapper?
[06:38] <Search4Lancer> hello, having problems with installation of Breezy, anybody home?
[06:38] <kosh> Ranma: that won't work, that kernel version needs a new udev and other stuff so you can't just stick it in breezy
[06:38] <kosh> Ranma: if you just stick that kernel version in without upgrading all the other stuff it won't work
[06:38] <kosh> Search4Lancer: what is the problem?
[06:39] <Search4Lancer> I just installed it, and after the CD ejection and reboot, it hangs on Starting Hotplug Subsystem
[06:39] <Search4Lancer> haven't been able to find anything of much help via Google
[06:39] <Ranma> kosh: and what about if i use the kernel source from kernel.org im going to get the same result?
[06:43] <kosh> Ranma: yes you will get the same result, the kernel does have outside dependencies and if you don't meet them then bad things can happen
[06:43] <kosh> Ranma: mostly for you the bad things would be that drivers would not get loaded
[06:43] <kosh> Search4Lancer: how long does it hang on it? did you just install from the kubuntu breezy cd?
[06:43] <kosh> Search4Lancer: what version? x86, x86-64 or ppc?
[06:44] <Search4Lancer> kosh: yes, just installed. have given it 5 minutes, have given it 10 minutes, have given it maybe even 15 minutes. x86
[06:46] <Search4Lancer> it looks like I just have to put "snd-hda-intel" into my hotplug blacklist, but I haven't a clue how to do that if I can't even boot
[06:47] <Search4Lancer> I've also seen that I need to disable my speakers in the BIOS.... but I'd like to have sound without having to buy externals
[06:49] <kosh> Search4Lancer: hmm is there any opportunity to type something in before the system boots up? I don't remember if you can hit esc or something before it boots into linux, if so you can probably tell it to use recovery mode to boot up, that is usually a default option in grub which kubuntu uses
[06:49] <kosh> Search4Lancer: if you could boot the system up and tell me what the system says before it does the starting linux part
[06:49] <kosh> Search4Lancer: sorry I don't have a box around here to reboot and see what it should say to explain it to you better, too much work to do that right now
[06:49] <Search4Lancer> recovery mode is an option in grub, yes.... you want me to try recovery mode and see what happens?
[06:50] <kosh> yes
[06:50] <kosh> if that works you will be dropped at the command line
[06:50] <kosh> and then you might be able to fix the problem
[06:50] <Search4Lancer> alrighty
[06:50] <kosh> if that does not work I will see if I can come up with a better idea however it may not be very fast
[06:51] <Search4Lancer> wait..... I'm pretty much of a n00b, haven't been using linux much since I can never connect at my house nor my apartment.... how would I add "snd-hda-intel" to that blacklist file?
[06:53] <kosh> Search4Lancer: good question, I don't know and would have to look it up, I have never had to blacklist something
[06:53] <Search4Lancer> well it's a matter of editing a file from command line, how would i do that (if ya know)?
[06:54] <kosh> sorry I have a lot of work I need to get done so I can't take the time to look that up buy maybe you could google for "blacklist driver hoptlug linux" or "blacklist driver udev linux"
[06:54] <kosh> hmm for you I would use nano /path/to/file/to/edit
[06:54] <kosh> if nano is not installed do sudo apt-get install nano
[06:54] <kev1n> HDIO_GETGEO failed: Invalid argument is the error message i get when i attempt to install DMA
[06:54] <kosh> and you might need to do sud nano /path/to/file/to/edit
[06:54] <kosh> kev1n: install DMA what do you mean?
[06:55] <kev1n> kosh:. i was having some audio problems so a good friend suggested i install DMA
[06:56] <kosh> kev1n: yeah but how did you try to install dma?
[06:56] <kosh> kev1n: at least on any linux kernel from the past few years it will turn on the highest dma mode that it can figure out
[06:57] <kev1n> OK.... i will keep trying... tahnks for trying kosh
[06:57] <kev1n> i will google for it as you are busy!
[07:08] <Search4Lancer> well this is just friggin great.....
[07:14] <exsanet> #semarang
[07:19] <kosh> getting upset rarely makes a problem better :)
[07:19] <Search4Lancer> meh
[07:19] <Search4Lancer> I prefer it that way, though
[07:20] <Search4Lancer> http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=4523.0
[07:20] <Search4Lancer> my results
[07:26] <kosh> Search4Lancer: what is the last thing the system does for recovery mode?
[07:26] <kosh> Search4Lancer: there is another way you can try, if you can use one of the live cds you can use that to be able to edit the file on the hard drive
[07:27] <Search4Lancer> says that it can't load (or maybe it was find) the driver for snd-hda-intel
[07:27] <kosh> however a live breezy cd is not a good idea since it would end up with the same problem
[07:27] <kosh> I would use a live knoppix cd
[07:27] <kosh> since it does not matter which you use to edit the file we want to use something different then what has the problem :)
[07:28] <Search4Lancer> right
[07:32] <thoreauputic> thoreauputic just learnt to type backwards
[07:32] <thoreauputic> amazing thing, linux... such useful scripts
[07:32] <thoreauputic> *grin*
[07:33] <Search4Lancer> this is my last blank CD, so it damn well better work :-)
[07:34] <kosh> yeah otherwise it might cost $2 to get another 30 or so CDs ;)
[07:34] <kosh> it certainly sounds like you are getting hit with a very strange bug though
[07:34] <kosh> I have not seen that kind of problem before
[07:36] <Search4Lancer> and since the downstairs computer has been turned off, I'm stuck downloading it via wireless, which at latest estimate will take 3 hours
[07:36] <kosh> why can't you turn the comptuter on?
[07:39] <Search4Lancer> too much work :-) actually, because that would give away the fact that I am awake, and I don't want my mom waking up any time soon and pissing me off by asking me how my grades are, and then having the computer conveniently there so she can tell me to get on the school's website and bring up my grades, at which point the "we don't have our midterm grades yet" line will no longer work
[07:39] <Search4Lancer> and I really have no problem with it taking another 2 and a half hours, as I'll be up late into the night playing poker anyway.... so, I really might as well fire up PartyPoker right now.
[07:39] <kev1n> hahahah
[07:40] <Search4Lancer> oh, you liked that huh? :-)
[07:42] <kosh> Search4Lancer: ah so your grades are not very good and you are playing games and staying up late
[07:42] <kosh> I can see why your mom would be upset
[07:42] <kosh> so many of the things just don't seem important in high school but you will regret not working harder on it later
[07:42] <Search4Lancer> I'm not in high school, dude
[07:42] <kosh> college then
[07:42] <Search4Lancer> http://www.pct.edu
[07:42] <kosh> either way
[07:43] <kosh> ah trade school
[07:44] <Search4Lancer> no
[07:44] <Search4Lancer> not trade school
[07:44] <Search4Lancer> it's a college
[07:44] <kosh> it looks like one from the website
[07:44] <kosh> however the website I can't get to work very well, the javascript menus are screwed up
[07:44] <Search4Lancer> despite the name, the "College" part of the name is the most important part
[07:45] <Search4Lancer> we're the second largest Penn State campus
[07:49] <Search4Lancer> unfortunately, the college is also full of morons.
[08:12] <juse> #ubuntu+1
[08:54] <DjDarkman> hy i had a power outage and now my fat32 partitions are mounted read only and probably have errors ,what should i do?
[08:54] <[nige] > anyone able to get firefox and mplayer to work happily with each other
[08:54] <[nige] > ?
[09:31] <blindmoses> anyone got time to hekp a noob?
[09:31] <blindmoses> *help
[09:33] <blindmoses> got given an old laptop, installed kubuntu, it plays system sounds but not mp3s. can anyone help?
[09:34] <Hobbsee> blindmoses: breezy or dapper?
[09:34] <blindmoses> breezy
[09:34] <Dru> mornin
[09:35] <Hobbsee> !tell blindmoses about mp3
[09:35] <Hobbsee> hi Druidor
[09:37] <blindmoses> message i get when opening an mp3 in a new tab in konq is: can't init audio driver 'alsasink' - trying another one...
[09:38] <blindmoses> followed by: no usable audio-driver found (alsasink)
[09:38] <blindmoses> both error messages play sound
[09:38] <crimsun> blindmoses: in kde system settings, what is the audio system set to?
[09:39] <blindmoses> checking....
[09:41] <blindmoses> under sound and multimedia?
[09:44] <Hobbsee> blindmoses: yeah
[09:44] <fatejudger> me2win: OMG!?!?!?
[09:44] <me2win> fatejudger: zomg!
[09:44] <fatejudger> lol
[09:44] <blindmoses> hardware tab: audio device is set to autodetect
[09:45] <fatejudger> is there a way to edit packages?
[09:45] <fatejudger> as in what files they install
[09:47] <me2win> fatejudger: hit it with a wrench and call it names
[09:48] <StarZenD> lol
[09:48] <Search4Lancer> nice
[09:52] <blindmoses> will check back later...
[09:55] <StarZenD> is there an easily available kde games package?
[09:56] <zerodni> like kde-amusements
[09:57] <StarZenD> oo, thanks
[10:00] <Druidor> I am slowly getting to grips with Linux
[10:02] <StarZenD> i had that feeling once.. *sob*
[10:02] <Druidor> upgrading KDE seems to be beyond my skills atm
[10:02] <Druidor> but got the important things done, Firewall Frozen Bubble lol
[10:12] <zerodni> Druidor how is upgradeing kde hard if you are doing the upgraded packages from kubuntu then just apt-get dist-upgrade in the command line and your good to go
[10:15] <kev1n> druidor has left this server
[10:16] <kev1n> [18:08]  <-- Druidor has left this server (Remote closed the connection).
[10:22] <Ranma> Hi everyone
[10:24] <Ranma> I have an ati radeon card, and i want to know if its posible to use the tv out feature with driver included in ubuntu (ati or radeon)
[10:35] <Search4Lancer> anyone happen to know if there's a way to play PartyPoker under Linux? :-D
[10:36] <Search4Lancer> I wouldn't want to have to switch to XP every time
[10:54] <davix> can some one paste me his sources.list for flight 6?
[10:56] <Search4Lancer> say, uh.... I just got done burning my Knoppix CD, and it got to 100%, then said there was a burn error, but it appears to be working ok, it opened up the Knoppix help file when I stuck it back in under XP...... safe to try booting on it?
[10:56] <stian> davix coming in on /msg
[10:56] <davix> thanks stian
[10:59] <Search4Lancer> meh I think I'll go for it.... sick of all the work I've had to do on this
[11:10] <nico8481> hi
[11:16] <Search4Lancer> quit
[11:16] <Search4Lancer> woops
[11:23] <martinjh99> Morning...  Whats happened to the gstreamer engine for amarok in Flight6..?  How do I now get mp3 playback...?
[11:24] <Tm_T> martinjh99: xine engine
[11:24] <Tm_T> !mp3
[11:24] <Glin|Jol> Winamp  5.20 Stopped
[11:24] <ubotu> somebody said mp3 was a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[11:24] <Tm_T> Glin|Jol: stupid joke
[11:24] <Tm_T> Glin|Jol: actually no joke at all
[11:25] <martinjh99> Ahh reading that page - It's a different package in Dapper... ;)  Thanks all
[11:25] <Tm_T> martinjh99: np
[11:52] <[krispo] > ken me puede a ayudarr
[11:52] <[krispo] > a  instalar lime wire en ubuntuu
[11:52] <tsdgeos> !es
[11:52] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:59] <Isil`Zha> how can i install php5 while using apache rather than apache2?
[12:00] <foobar> why do you want that?
[12:00] <Isil`Zha> to match my server setup
[12:00] <foobar> hmm, just try it
[12:01] <foobar> use apt-get apache php5
[12:01] <foobar> or something
[12:01] <Isil`Zha> i did...
[12:01] <foobar> but it didn't work?
[12:01] <Isil`Zha> it asks to install apache2
[12:01] <foobar> hm, thats bad
[12:01] <Isil`Zha> yes...
[12:03] <nico8481> what font should I use to display chinese characters correctly?
[12:06] <foobar> http://doc.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/desktopguide/C/ch05s01.html#fonts
[12:07] <foobar> @ nico8481
[12:08] <martinjh99> How do you get Thunderbird to open Firefox when you click on links..?  At the moment is opening Konq which is fine but I'd prefer Firefox to open though...
[12:09] <me2win> go to system preferences
[12:09] <me2win> system settings
[12:09] <me2win> then under user account
[12:10] <me2win> default application
[12:10] <StarZenD> has anyone use jabber jingle in this OS?
[12:10] <martinjh99> Yeah did that - Still not happening though...
[12:11] <nico8481> foobar: thx
[12:11] <Isil`Zha> how can i install php5 while using apache rather than apache2? (sorry if i missed proposals right now i had some crash...)
[12:11] <me2win> why wouldnt you use apache2?
[12:12] <RomanK> hm... i hope dapper will still use ivman, not this stupid kde-pmounter
[12:12] <martinjh99> Roman I'm using Dapper - How can I tell so that I can tell you... ;)
[12:12] <RomanK> martinjh99: ps aux | grep ivman
[12:12] <RomanK> after you logged in to kde
[12:12] <me2win> it uses ivman
[12:13] <RomanK> great! because the kde
[12:13] <RomanK> oops
[12:13] <nxv_> hi
[12:13] <yanis> how do I configure the profiles in konqueror?
[12:13] <RomanK> because the kde-mounter really sucks... you can only use it properly with KDE-apps
[12:14] <nxv_> i want to do something like a newspaper for my grandma's birthday. is there any better programm than latex for this job?
[12:14] <martinjh99> nxv try scribus...
[12:24] <Isil`Zha> me2win: sorry missed your question. because it wouldn't match my server setup. but shouldn't the question rather be: why should i be forced to use apache2?
[12:34] <flof> hello everyone
[12:35] <Bluekuja> hello :)
[12:35] <flof> does anyone have a pointer or a hint on using an audio card on another networked pc for output?
[12:35] <flof> i have a laptop and a desktop both running kubuntu dapper
[12:36] <flof> laptop should play audio over the stereo hooked up to the desktop
[12:36] <Isil`Zha> so am i forced to use apache2 if i want to have php5 as an apache module in ubuntu?
[12:36] <flof> mostly from amarok and xine
[12:36] <carmen> hi. it's the first time i've installed kubuntu and i'm having trouble running any programs that require root access (such as adept). the error i get is "su returned with an error". can someone help me?
[12:37] <cfraz89> flog: amarok has a server built-in
[12:37] <flof> carmen, try sudo
[12:37] <cfraz89> that you can use to stream audio to other computers
[12:37] <flof> cfraz: wow
[12:37] <Bluekuja> or change root pwd
[12:37] <flof> didnt see that
[12:37] <Bluekuja> and then su root
[12:37] <flof> thanks a lot
[12:38] <carmen> sudo works, but i want to be able to run the programs from the shortcuts in the k menu. (this pc is my mothers and she doesn't know how to use the console at all, i'm trying to make it as user friendly as possible)
[12:38] <Bluekuja> remember that if synaptic is running you cant start programs that requires root access
[12:38] <Bluekuja> o so when u start a program from a shortcut
[12:38] <carmen> yes
[12:39] <Bluekuja> it gives an error
[12:39] <carmen> i tried to change the root password
[12:39] <carmen> they were initially the same...
[12:39] <Bluekuja> file permissions?
[12:39] <carmen> root and user password that is
[12:39] <cfraz89> np :)
[12:39] <foobar> carmen: use kdesu program in the k menu
[12:39] <foobar> e.g. kdesu adept
[12:40] <foobar> well that doesnt make sense but its an example ^^
[12:40] <Bluekuja> ^^
[12:41] <cfraz89> flof: lol i cant find it myself
[12:41] <cfraz89> it used to have one
[12:41] <carmen> foobar: i tried running kdesu adept in the console, i got that "please enter you password" prompt, i entered MY password and it thinks it's incorrect. i also tried the root password, same thing
[12:42] <flof> there's an option for a http streaming proxy in the engine tab of the settings dialog
[12:43] <cfraz89> oh
[12:43] <cfraz89> thanks
[12:43] <Bluekuja> carmen
[12:43] <Bluekuja> are you sure that the root pwd is correct?
[12:43] <Bluekuja> have you changed it in users menu?
[12:43] <carmen> yes, it works with "su -" in the console
[12:44] <carmen> i changed it using passwd
[12:44] <cfraz89> isnt that just if you use a proxy server?
[12:44] <Bluekuja> mmm...thats strange
[12:44] <Bluekuja> and if u do su youraccount
[12:44] <Bluekuja> pwd
[12:45] <Bluekuja> it works?
[12:45] <Bluekuja> fromk bash of course
[12:45] <flof> i'm just digging through amarok help to find it out
[12:45] <cfraz89> oh ok
[12:45] <carmen> root@ubuntu:~# su carmen
[12:45] <carmen> carmen@ubuntu:/root$
[12:45] <cfraz89> i remember when the scripts manager was new
[12:45] <cfraz89> there was a script which streamed out what amarok was playing
[12:46] <stian> cfraz89: hey, thanks for your help yesterday, now the fan is really doing nicely, running pretty much as infrequently as in windows :)
[12:46] <cfraz89> sian: cool!
[12:47] <cfraz89> *stian lol
[12:47] <cfraz89> np
[12:47] <Bluekuja> and if you put the same pwd
[12:47] <Bluekuja> when u start the program
[12:47] <Bluekuja> it doesnt work
[12:47] <stian> :)
[12:47] <Bluekuja> ?
[12:47] <carmen> Bluekuja: it doesn't
[12:47] <cfraz89> flof: found it
[12:47] <Bluekuja> thats really strange
[12:47] <cfraz89> http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=22170
[12:48] <Bluekuja> your root pwd is the same of carmen user?
[12:48] <flof> cfraz, you're great
[12:48] <flof> thanks a lot!
[12:48] <carmen> Bluekuja: it's different
[12:48] <cfraz89> lol np
[12:48] <Bluekuja> try to put the same
[12:49] <carmen> ok
[12:49] <Bluekuja> and then start the program
[12:50] <carmen> Bluekuja: conversation with su failed
[12:50] <carmen> :/
[12:50] <Bluekuja> go to the kde interface
[12:50] <Bluekuja> for users
[12:50] <Bluekuja> users and groups
[12:51] <Bluekuja> and change the 2 pwds from there
[12:51] <Bluekuja> put the same
[12:51] <carmen> i need admin mode, and i get the same error
[12:51] <carmen> if i restart kde, will it be any good?
[12:51] <Bluekuja> mmmm....
[12:51] <Bluekuja> try
[12:51] <Bluekuja> ^^
[12:51] <carmen> ok, brb
[12:51] <Bluekuja> k
[12:52] <cfraz89> flof: if it doesnt work
[12:52] <cfraz89> you could always use the web control script
[12:52] <cfraz89> to use the laptop to control the desktop's amark
[12:53] <flof> Or just stick with vnc ;-)
[12:54] <cfraz89> nah
[12:54] <cfraz89> amarok owns all lol
[12:54] <cfraz89> i dont like vnc
[12:54] <cyberserver> Hi people. I'm facing problems booting a flight6 cd. The boot cd is not recognized on my machine. I switched cd readers, and burned 2 images on different cdrw media just in case..
[12:55] <cyberserver> ... I find this very strange as I use this same media for all my distro tests and they usually boot fine...
[12:56] <cyberserver> ... and I can also boot this same cd in another machine... But I can also boot other cdimages (not kubuntu flight6) on my problematic machine
[12:56] <cfraz89> !w32codecs
[12:56] <ubotu> it has been said that w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[12:57] <Bluekuja> afk 30 minutes
[12:57] <cyberserver> Do you know of anyone with similar problems?
[12:58] <cyberserver> oops, sorry
[01:01] <flof> cfraz, know the "networked sound" option in kde system settings --> sound and multimedia tab?
[01:01] <cfraz89> yeah
[01:02] <cfraz89> all i know is you can pipe arts through a network
[01:02] <cfraz89> i never found out how though
[01:02] <cfraz89> ill try and dig it up
[01:02] <slow-motion> hallo
[01:04] <cfraz89> hi
[01:04] <cfraz89> oh
[01:04] <cfraz89> it just means that arts can play sound files from other computers
[01:04] <cfraz89> ie  artsplay /path/to/filename/on/server.wav
[01:05] <cfraz89> actually
[01:05] <cfraz89> flof: check this out
[01:05] <cfraz89> http://www.arts-project.org/doc/mcop-doc/artsd-faq.html
[01:06] <cfraz89> and check the network transparency section
[01:06] <cfraz89> also nas sounds good
[01:07] <cfraz89> no i mean nmm sorry
[01:08] <cfraz89> nmm, and it has a good kde frontend
[01:08] <cfraz89> http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=30100
[01:09] <flof> cfraz, thats some great pointers
[01:09] <cfraz89> lol thanks
[01:09] <flof> i had a look at nas and it seemed a bit crude, but nmm looks very promising
[01:09] <cfraz89> im not totally sure that nmm is what you are looking for
[01:10] <cfraz89> but it sounds good
[01:10] <cfraz89> yeah
[01:10] <Hobbsee> hey Kamping_Kaiser
[01:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi Hobbsee
[01:11] <paulvolk> Hello
[01:11] <cfraz89> hi
[01:11] <paulvolk> I was wondering, is there a place to get the .deb packege for KBFX?
[01:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi people
[01:13] <paulvolk> can anyone help me?
[01:15] <Hobbsee> !+anyone
[01:15] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[01:15] <Hobbsee> ah.... is there one on kde-look.org?
[01:15] <Hobbsee> sorry, didnt see the question above
[01:15] <nxv_> does anyone know how to open an wps (works) file within linux?
[01:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> no go afaik
[01:16] <buz> for some reason, it doesnt show my printer in dapper
[01:16] <buz> kghostview does so, though
[01:26] <cfraz89> stian: did kpowersave automatically handle your screen brightness too?
[01:30] <Hobbsee> cfraz89: it should...
[01:30] <cfraz89> yeah
[01:30] <cfraz89> it doesnt give me any settings though
[01:30] <cfraz89> it just handles it automatically
[01:30] <cfraz89> from /etc/powersave
[01:31] <Hobbsee> ah
[01:31] <Hobbsee> cfraz89: not even the brightness tab in configure kpowersave?
[01:39] <flixil> I was not able to install kubuntu with the kubuntu dapper installer because it detects my hd as 60GB and it has only 32GB... I installed a Debian Sarge and changed the sources.list and dist-upgraded... May it result in a good instalation?
[01:39] <flixil> I made a minimal instalation with a net-install cd
[01:45] <_manu38_> Hello
[01:45] <_manu38_> Could you know Proftpd ?
[01:46] <Hobbsee> flixil: it may...but it's risky
[01:47] <_ravn> hey all. I need an easy guide to install codec for .avi . I have been searching google for days now! I'm running Kubuntu on an Imac
[01:47] <stian_> oh no, I made the little handles on the thingies on my panel disappear last night, and now the windowlist is way off, and I can't remember what I did to hide the handles :P Anyone know?
[01:47] <_manu38_> How know the name server because I have an error : Fatal: ServerName: directive not allowed in <global> context on line 106
[01:48] <_ravn> stian_: Im not sure what u meant, but tjek the lower right cornor for an "arrow" and push it
[01:48] <stian_> yeah, the arrows are missing
[01:49] <_ravn> Hmm
[01:49] <stian_> so are the handlebars that the arrow is supposed to be attached to
[01:49] <_ravn> can't help ya then
[01:49] <stian_> I removed them on purpose, it was a checkbox somewhere, but I can't remember where :P lol
[01:49] <stian_> _ravn: no worries, I'll figure it out with time :) or someone else might know :p
[01:50] <_ravn> stian_: okay mate _=
[01:50] <_ravn> :)
[01:50] <_ravn> Btw, do u know anything about me problem?
[01:50] <_ravn> my*
[01:50] <Hobbsee> stian_: right click on kicker,
[01:51] <stian_> _ravn: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats might give you a solution
[01:51] <Hobbsee> configure panel, appearance, advanced options
[01:51] <_ravn> I need an easy way to install codecs, to watch .avi
[01:51] <_ravn> ohh
[01:51] <stian_> Hobbsee: no advanced options in appearance
[01:51] <Hobbsee> stian_: bottom left?
[01:51] <stian_> Hobbsee: sorry, there they are
[01:51] <Hobbsee> :P
[01:52] <Hobbsee> you had me worried there for a second lol!
[01:52] <flixil> Hobbsee: oks
[01:52] <stian_> Hobbsee: thanks :)
[01:52] <Hobbsee> not a problme
[01:52] <flixil> do you know the option to pass to apt-get to update the e2fsprogs?
[01:53] <stian_> Hobbsee: hehe, what had happened was really that I had System Settings open when doing what you said, so there weren't any options at all
[01:53] <flixil> it says it's risky to upgrade and you have to pass a low level option to do it
[01:53] <Hobbsee> ah yep
[01:53] <_ravn> Package gstreamer0.8-mad is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[01:53] <_ravn> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[01:53] <_ravn> is only available from another source
[01:53] <_ravn> E: Package gstreamer0.8-mad has no installation candidate
[01:53] <Hobbsee> i thought it would be in system settings too
[01:53] <Hobbsee> !info gstreamer0.8-mad
[01:53] <stian_> _ravn: do you have universe/multiverse enabled?
[01:53] <ubotu> gstreamer0.8-mad: (MAD MPEG audio decoder plugin for GStreamer), section universe/libs, is optional. Version: 0.8.11-0ubuntu5 (breezy), Packaged size: 54 kB, Installed size: 144 kB
[01:53] <Hobbsee> _ravn: you on dapper or breezy?
[01:54] <_ravn> Tried dapper also.. I am "the newest" for Imac.. :)
[01:54] <_ravn> and dont know about the universe/multi thing
[01:54] <stian_> I have a "feeling" that firefox uses more memory than konqueror, could I be correct?
[01:54] <Hobbsee> !info gstreamer0.8-mad dapper
[01:54] <ubotu> gstreamer0.8-mad: (MAD MPEG audio decoder plugin for GStreamer), section universe/libs, is optional. Version: 0.8.12-1ubuntu1 (dapper), Packaged size: 56 kB, Installed size: 148 kB
[01:55] <Hobbsee> _ravn: it should be there, if you have multiverse/universe enabled
[01:55] <Hobbsee> stian: yeah, that's probably true
[01:55] <_ravn> tjekking it out. hold plz
[01:55] <stian> Hobbsee: okay, is there any native browser for kde using the gecko engine? such as epiphany in gnome?
[01:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> Hobbsee: dapper should use 0.10
[01:56] <Hobbsee> Kamping_Kaiser: both are in repos.  i dont use gstreamer at all
[01:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> Hobbsee: no, so i'm telling you ;)
[01:56] <Hobbsee> true
[01:56] <Hobbsee> wiki still refers to 0.8
[01:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> quite probably. the wiki sucks a bit in that it's trying to support 3 or 4 Ubuntu's at the same time, on one page :/
[01:58] <nxv_> i trie to play arround with scribus, but when i insert some text it displays only squarres. does anybody know how to get it working?
[01:59] <Hobbsee> hehe that is true
[01:59] <paulvolk> How would I go about extracting and compiling a .tar.gz file?
[01:59] <Hobbsee> !+compile
[01:59] <ubotu> A nice howto about compiling software from source code can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (but remember to search !apt first, after adding all the !repos)
[02:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> <3 apt-source
[02:00] <_ravn> Its breezy badger ppc version
[02:00] <_ravn> and I cant change the line
[02:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> what line?
[02:01] <stian> _ravn: did you sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:01] <stian> I think a line in sources.list
[02:02] <stian> trying to add universe/multiverse yes?
[02:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> stian: ok
[02:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> _ravn: what are you at so far?
[02:03] <_ravn> I'm at the "Now, add "multiverse" into the Components section of all repositories which mentioned "universe". To do this," part
[02:03] <_ravn> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[02:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> and what happened?
[02:04] <_ravn> When I rename that line, its "undos"
[02:04] <_ravn> It doesn't save
[02:04] <carmen> did you click apply _ravn ?
[02:05] <carmen> same thing happened to me 5 mins ago ;)
[02:05] <_ravn> I dont get that option. I select the line, rename it, and press enter
[02:06] <_ravn> lol, now it worked..
[02:06] <_ravn> my bad, didnt press enter the other times, but merely e?elected the other line. (like when u rename folders in windoze) :)
[02:07] <carmen> bbl
[02:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> wd
[02:08] <_ravn> ty! now it worked
[02:11] <lwelyn> i have a problem with video streaming. it lags if i use it...(with mplayer, realplayer etc )
[02:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> laggy connection?
[02:13] <nxv_> is anyone using scribus here? i am not abel to insert text into text boxes. just doesn't react on hitting character keys. numbers are inserted
[02:13] <lwelyn> no
[02:13] <lwelyn> Kamping_Kaiser:  6 mbs
[02:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> lwelyn: probably codec probelms, but i cant realy help with them
[02:20] <_ravn> I dont understand why there is no easier way to install mplayer - like gaim for instance
[02:20] <_ravn> and firefox
[02:23] <_ravn> Kamping_Kaiser: I got breezy on a ppc, do u know an easy shortcut like that also?
[02:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> mplayer-g4 IIRC
[02:24] <_ravn> huh?
[02:24] <_ravn> Irc channel, or command?
[02:25] <Kamping_Kaiser> sudo apt-get install mplayer-g4
[02:25] <Kamping_Kaiser> should be in multiverse, might have depends in universe
[02:25] <Kamping_Kaiser> brb
[02:28] <vijay> hi all, how to change default display manager??
[02:28] <noteventime> Is there someone here who knows how to manually get the i810 drivers and comile them from subversion/cvs?
[02:29] <lwelyn> i still need help with my video(streaming)
[02:30] <noteventime> vijay, kdm or gdm?
[02:30] <vijay> gdm
[02:30] <vijay> noteventime, gdm
[02:30] <noteventime> i think sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:30] <noteventime> You should get a screen where you can choose
[02:31] <noteventime> lwelyn, Breezy or dapper?
[02:31] <vijay> noteventime, no, there is another command, but i forgot that
[02:31] <lwelyn> noteventime: i use dapper
[02:31] <noteventime> so you use xine?
[02:31] <lwelyn> noteventime: of course yes. the problem appears everywhere
[02:31] <lwelyn> noteventime: i mean its no specificied on mplayer or real plyer...
[02:32] <noteventime> What is your problem then?, i doubt that i can help you though
[02:32] <lwelyn> the video lags everywhere
[02:32] <mangusta> I installed kubuntu by apt-get, using the instructions on the website
[02:32] <lwelyn> it lags...like i play it on a 386er Oo
[02:32] <noteventime> Have you tried installing w32codecs?
[02:32] <lwelyn> noteventime: i installes all the codex
[02:32] <lwelyn> noteventime: i installed
[02:32] <mangusta> after it installed, it worked, howerver, the kwindecoretion.la module was missing
[02:32] <lwelyn> noteventime: i installed the libxine-extracodex too
[02:33] <noteventime> My brother had the same kind of problems with alla video files, linxine-extracodecs and w32codecs helped
[02:33] <noteventime> s/alla/all
[02:33] <lwelyn> noteventime: well..so you thing reinstall them might help ?
[02:33] <mangusta> and there were no window title bars, and I was unable to drag windows around, or alt-tab etc...
[02:33] <noteventime> lwelyn, I'm sorry but I don't know, are you uing the right video drivers?
[02:33] <mangusta> but, I can't install or reinstall the kcontrol or kwin packages, and I have tries d to remove kubuntu, but it isn't cooperating
[02:34] <noteventime> mangusta, try sudo apt-get install kwin
[02:34] <noteventime> ahh :)
[02:34] <lwelyn> noteventime: glxgears show me 3900 frames per second. thats enough. ( its the same as under breezy )
[02:34] <noteventime> What card are you using?
[02:34] <mangusta> that failed on deps, said it was held back?
[02:34] <noteventime> You installed from ubuntu mangusta?
[02:34] <lwelyn> i use ati radeion mobile 9700
[02:35] <mangusta> yeah, 5.1
[02:35] <noteventime> mangusta try a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:35] <mangusta> I have since tried to remove kubuntu-desktop
[02:35] <noteventime> lwelyn, Hehe, trust me I have similar problems although I'm on an Intel card I only get 1300fps
[02:36] <mangusta> and now, when I try to install it again
[02:36] <mangusta> I get about 50 : Depends: adept
[02:36] <mangusta> is there a way to force it to install the dependancies?
[02:36] <noteventime> Try installing the dependencies
[02:36] <noteventime> manually
[02:37] <noteventime> from the console
[02:37] <noteventime> Probably there is one package or two that is causing the problem
[02:37] <mangusta> i am, but most come up with:  kwin: Depends: kdelibs4c2 (>= 4:3.5.2) but it is not going to be installed
[02:37] <mangusta> E: Broken packages
[02:37] <lwelyn> noteventime: well i try to uninstall compeltly all. and then reinstall it
[02:37] <noteventime> try sudo apt-get install kdelibs4c2
[02:37] <_ravn> Kamping_Kaiser: dude, i think that worked. Im am truly grateful!
[02:37] <noteventime> lwlyn, I'm sorry but I'm out of ideas, try that
[02:38] <mangusta> kdelibs4c2: Depends: libavahi-client1 (>= 0.5.2) but it is not installable
[02:38] <noteventime> that try to install that
[02:38] <mangusta> and a couple of other libavahi- libs
[02:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> _ravn: great to hear.
[02:38] <noteventime> Se were it comes to something were it wants to uninstall
[02:38] <mangusta> says it is not available
[02:38] <noteventime> What about your sources.list?
[02:38] <lwelyn> noteventime: er...how can i unistal a pakage if it seems not be there?
[02:39] <noteventime> lwelyn, which one? :S
[02:39] <lwelyn> lixinerama1 ...i cant deinstall it
[02:39] <noteventime> mangusta, Pastebin your sources.list
[02:39] <mangusta> only thing changed is: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35 breezy main
[02:39] <mangusta> ok
[02:41] <mangusta> noteventime, http://pastebin.com/649353
[02:41] <noteventime> mangusta, try enabling universe and multiverse
[02:41] <_ravn> Error - new_face failed. Maybe the font path is wrong. Please supply the text font file (~/.mplayer/subfront.ttf).
[02:41] <noteventime> I can give you mine
[02:42] <_ravn> Kamping_Kaiser:)
[02:42] <mangusta> will try
[02:42] <noteventime> mangusta, I'll modify mine for the right country and breezy
[02:44] <noteventime> mangusta, try this one http://pastebin.com/649356
[02:46] <mangusta> ok, I'll try with multiverse + universe first, and then run yours if I get nowhere, thanks for the help noteventime
[02:46] <noteventime> np, hope it helps :)
[02:48] <bar> it is said that you should never ever hit the reset button in linux - but what shall I do if everything crashed?
[02:49] <bar> the key combos dont work either
[02:49] <mangusta> try ctrl-alt-f1
[02:49] <bar> wont work
[02:49] <mangusta> bugger
[02:49] <mangusta> hard drive light on?
[02:49] <bar> i'll look at it next time
[02:49] <mangusta> ie, is something happening, or is it just stopped
[02:50] <elijahlofgren> bar: I had a hard lock up yesterday. I had to hit the reset button and all was fine when I rebooted.
[02:50] <bar> yeah, i did it a few times now but all is fine
[02:50] <mangusta> cause things like firefox can bring the smackdown on your machine, make it look like it's frozen
[02:50] <bar> well i think it was amarok cause i just focused it and everything frozed - even the musik
[02:51] <bar> that was in a loop
[02:51] <mangusta> uhuh
[02:52] <mangusta> noteventime, trying to install kubuntu-desktop now just asks for kdegraphics-kfile-plugins
[02:52] <noteventime> ?
[02:52] <noteventime> You have the others installed maybe?
[02:52] <mangusta> which won't install as it needs a dep, which needs a dep, libpoppler0c2-qt: Depends: libpoppler0c2 (= 0.4.2-0ubuntu6) but 0.4.2-0ubuntu6.6 is to be installed
[02:53] <Somefilename> mangusta, Use aptitude to install it - it's better for dependencies.
[02:53] <mangusta> libpoppler0c2 is already the newest version.
[02:56] <mangusta>   libpoppler0c2-qt: Depends: libpoppler0c2 (= 0.4.2-0ubuntu6) but 0.4.2-0ubuntu6.6 is installed.
[02:56] <mangusta> but, aptitude install libpoppler0c2
[02:57] <Hobbsee> mangusta: breezy or dapper?
[02:57] <mangusta> No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.
[02:57] <mangusta> breezy
[02:57] <Somefilename> mangusta, apt-get -f install
[02:57] <mangusta> and aptitude show libpoppler0c2 says it is installed
[02:57] <Somefilename> See if that works.
[02:57] <Hobbsee> mangusta: file a bug report for it?
[02:57] <Somefilename> mangusta, Remove it and reinstall it.
[02:57] <mangusta> no, not sure if it is a bug yet
[02:58] <Somefilename> Hobbsee, That is the last version - don't know if there's a patch for it.
[02:58] <Hobbsee> no, there wont be.  i was considering writing a patch.
[02:59] <Somefilename> Hobbsee, Would be a great idea if we knew what's the problem with it...
[03:00] <mangusta> ok, well, i removed and reinstalled libpoppler0c2
[03:00] <Somefilename> mangusta, See if it works now.
[03:00] <Hobbsee> Somefilename: deps on   libpoppler0c2-qt are wrong - libpoppler0c2 should either depend on  (>= 0.4.2-0ubuntu6) or  (= 0.4.2-0ubuntu6.6)
[03:00] <mangusta> but aptitude install libpoppler0c2-qt
[03:00] <mangusta> still says:  libpoppler0c2-qt: Depends: libpoppler0c2 (= 0.4.2-0ubuntu6) but 0.4.2-0ubuntu6.6 is installed.
[03:01] <Somefilename> Hmmm...
[03:01] <mangusta> so, the 6 vs 6.6 is the problem?
[03:01] <Hobbsee> yes
[03:01] <mangusta> ok, any reason why i cant force it, are 6 and 6.6 that different?
[03:02] <Hobbsee> yes, and yes
[03:02] <mangusta> okies
[03:03] <Hobbsee> mangusta: asking on how to fix it...
[03:03] <mangusta> cool
[03:03] <mangusta> thanks
[03:04] <Hobbsee> grr...devs are asleep...lol
[03:07] <bar> hmm, i got a problem with my locales or with my keyboard config. can't use special chars in some kde programs. it works in firefox, kdissert but not in kopete, amarok and more... (e.g. ??)
[03:09] <mangusta> bugger
[03:10] <thor> How do I get the trash can back on the desktop?
[03:10] <bar> well... dunno if you saw my post with the locales, but that fucked my kopete history up...
[03:10] <mangusta> heh
[03:11] <mangusta> we did
[03:11] <mangusta> wondered why you dissappeared
[03:11] <Somefilename> bar, Use Konversation or XChat.
[03:11] <bar> I couldnt see no posts anymore, cause kopete disclaimed about some coding problems ^^
[03:11] <bar> Somefilename: its not only kopete
[03:11] <bar> the specialchars in my konsole are broken too
[03:12] <bar> i tried locales and dkpg-reconfigure and more
[03:12] <bar> but cant get it working
[03:12] <Somefilename> bar, Konsole > Settings > Keyboard.
[03:12] <YaH00_> 
[03:12] <ka_har> matrix.dal.net
[03:13] <bar> ah, somefile that worked, my default encoding is wrong, where do I set that to utf8 ?
[03:14] <mangusta> Hobbsee, is there a later version of libpoppler0c2 which supports 0.4.2-0ubuntu6.6?
[03:14] <mangusta> from the dapper release etc?
[03:14] <Hobbsee> in breezy?  i doubt it
[03:15] <Somefilename> bar, Kcontrol > Apearence & Themes > Fonts.
[03:15] <Hobbsee> dapper depends on 0.5, if i saw correctly
[03:15] <Hobbsee> and no, dont even think of using the dapper version on breezy
[03:15] <mangusta> okies
[03:15] <Hobbsee> :P
[03:15] <Hobbsee> just in case you were wondering
[03:15] <mangusta> dammit, i hate gnome
[03:15] <AljoshaNL> hey i cant install my printer "unable to retrieve the printer list"
[03:16] <bar> Somefilename: i can only change the fonts and the antialaising options there, but nothing about encodings?!
[03:16] <Somefilename> Brb.
[03:17] <Somefilename> bar, I don't know about encoding - search the kcontrol.
[03:17] <Somefilename> Brb now.
[03:17] <AljoshaNL> hey i cant install my printer "unable to retrieve the printer list" "The ipp request failed for an unknown reason"
[03:17] <bar> thanks anyway
[03:17] <AljoshaNL> how can I solve this problem?
[03:18] <mangusta> Hobbsee, should I put in a bug?
[03:18] <mangusta> or email someone with info?
[03:18] <Hobbsee> mangusta: yeah
[03:18] <mangusta> ok, will try
[03:18] <Hobbsee> write a bug for it
[03:18] <Hobbsee> do you know where to put it?
[03:18] <cfraz89> AlijoshaNL: that only appears until you install a printer
[03:19] <cfraz89> dont heed the message
[03:20] <mangusta> Hobbsee, is this the right one to use?? https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/breezy/i386/libpoppler0c2/0.4.2-0ubuntu6.6
[03:21] <mangusta> if I download a deb file, how can I install it?
[03:21] <Hobbsee> mangusta: no, it's the libpoppler0c2-qt
[03:22] <Hobbsee> !deb
[03:22] <ubotu> To install a .deb file: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb  (but note that the program you want might be installable using !apt from the !repos)
[03:22] <kahar> maakasar
[03:22] <flixil> dpkg -i *.deb
[03:25] <Hobbsee> mangusta: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/poppler/+filebug
[03:25] <mangusta> Hobbsee, this then: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/breezy/i386/libpoppler0c2-qt/0.4.2-0ubuntu6.6
[03:25] <Hobbsee> if you could subscribe hobbsee@gmail to the bug, that'd be cool, too
[03:25] <lwelyn> somebody knows how i can integrate kaffeine in my fire fox?
[03:25] <Hobbsee> nah, you have to file the bug against the source package - not against the binary...
[03:25] <Hobbsee> which makes it way harder
[03:27] <DeBert> They should fire the kubuntu theme designer. I just reinstalled, and i noticed the default look and theme is fucking ugly. It looks like a toy OS. Or is it me?
[03:27] <tristanmike> !language
[03:27] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[03:27] <elijahlofgren> DeBert: You mean the blue in Kubuntu Dapper?
[03:28] <mangusta> Hobbsee, installing the -qt package for the 6.6 lib seems to be working
[03:28] <DeBert> elijahlofgren: I mean everything, it just doesn't look nice
[03:28] <buz> yeah dapper's default theme is fugly
[03:28] <Hobbsee> mangusta: ah ok
[03:28] <DeBert> elijahlofgren: If you look at ubuntu, it's polished for excellence, kubuntu is ugly as hell
[03:28] <Hobbsee> buz: yeah, they know - most of it's being reworked
[03:29] <mangusta> I will see if this works, cause then I will submit bug, but the bug is that the req dont make the right ver of libpoppler install
[03:29] <elijahlofgren> Hobbsee: is the orange for Kubuntu a rumor or is it true?
[03:29] <buz> Hobbsee: personally, i dont care much (my home overrides it after all) but people new to kubuntu surely react badly to it
[03:29] <buz> orange? OMG
[03:29] <Hobbsee> elijahlofgren: orange???   i hadnt heard of that one!  there is a wiki page about it somewhere...
[03:29] <Hobbsee> mind you, i kinda like the orange in gnome
[03:29] <elijahlofgren> lwelyn: Check out the kaffeine-mozilla package?
[03:30] <Hobbsee> buz: tell me about it...it was decided in the last meeting that it was terrible :P
[03:30] <buz> i think orange is only slightly better than pink myself
[03:30] <lwelyn> elijahlofgren: it dont works. my ff opens all the stuff with MPlay...i deintalled this plugin..but it still do
[03:30] <buz> i dont entirely understand why the current theme got implemented at all
[03:30] <Hobbsee> ooh pink!!!
[03:30] <buz> its hard to believe that there are people who think its good really
[03:31] <foobar> hmm, concerning my encoding problem: i got a dead link in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11, locale links to ../../../lib/X11/locale (/usr/lib/X11/locale) but that folder does not exist
[03:31] <foobar> could that be the problem?
[03:31] <buz> i can just think of pink kubuntu and slashdot
[03:31] <buz> the commentary would involve a specific sexual preference, for sure
[03:31] <elijahlofgren> Ah, LOL the post I read is dated March 31, must have been an april fools joke: http://www.raphink.info/changing-styles
[03:31] <tristanmike> pink kubuntu, LOL
[03:31] <Hobbsee> buz: urgh!  dont remind me!
[03:32] <elijahlofgren> lwelyn: I don't know then. You could use Konqueror, I just switched to it from Firefox yesterday.
[03:32] <buz> (i really really hate pink)
[03:33] <Hobbsee> hehe
[03:34] <DeBert> Kubuntu is the only decent KDE distro now, so they better make it good
[03:35] <buz> yes
[03:35] <DeBert> i'm sure all the devs work hard, but i just hate to see the default theme raped like this, sorry
[03:35] <buz> i'd vote for embassy as default theme but that's not gonna fly ;)
[03:36] <buz> but maybe one could have qtcurve in universe ;)
[03:36] <buz> mpf
[03:36] <buz> install kpowersave and lose kubuntu-desktop
[03:36] <DeBert> the only thing gtk/gnome has over kde is the nicer themes. with kde its all blue/plastic/macosx-ish
[03:37] <buz> cause kubuntu-desktop insists on powernowd
[03:37] <tristanmike> I think the pannel applets in Gnome are nicer too
[03:37] <buz> i think ubuntu gnome looks rather dull really
[03:38] <DeBert> yeah i think so to, but if you compare kde-look with gnome-look, than there is better stuff on the latter
[03:40] <theine> Is it possible that Kwallet in Dapper is severly broken?
[03:40] <foobar> it works for me
[03:41] <theine> Can you create new wallets and are you able to select a default wallet?
[03:41] <Hobbsee> DeBert: yeah, we'll poke and prod till it looks sane, dont worry :P
[03:41] <Hobbsee> trying to figure out when the artwork freeze is on now...
[03:42] <foobar> new wallet works
[03:42] <theine> foobar: hmm, and you're using the latest Dapper?
[03:42] <Hobbsee> buz: can i have a link to embassy, if it's already in ubuntu?
[03:42] <mangusta> I like the gnome theme, it's a good look
[03:42] <foobar> yes
[03:42] <mangusta> but gnome is irritating to use
[03:42] <theine> foobar: ok, it's time for me to purge ~/.kde I guess...
[03:42] <DeBert> Hobbsee: I didn't mean to offend any devs on this channel, i just critisize because i care ;)
[03:42] <Hobbsee> buz: and yes, the kpowersave is annoying about that - i thought they fixed it
[03:43] <theine> foobar: what about selecting a default wallet? does that work for you as well?
[03:43] <Hobbsee> DeBert: hehe not a problem - i think it's appaling too.  suggestions are useful - particularly if the package is already in ubuntu.
[03:43] <Hobbsee> that applies to backgrounds/themes/colours/icons/etc
[03:44] <Hobbsee> see, there are 2 problems here - either the devs have already customised, and so just leave the stuff as the defaults, or there's so many options, so the dev's just pick the least bad one...
[03:44] <mangusta> well, you think kubuntu looks bad to start with, you should try it when kwin is broken.....
[03:44] <foobar> theine: cant find any option for that
[03:44] <Hobbsee> but if we've got suggestions that people can look at and say "hey, that'd look good" - then that's way helpful
[03:45] <DeBert> Hobbsee: I have Modern System/Plastik/Redmond XP now, it looks pretty decent, at least more so than the other stuff that's build in by default in kde
[03:45] <theine> foobar: right click on the tray icon -> Configure Wallet -> Automatic Wallet Selection
[03:46] <cyberserver> Hi people. DO you know wich is the URL of the kubuntu dapper repository? http://archive.ubuntu.com/ only has ubuntu
[03:46] <foobar> seems to work, no error occured
[03:46] <theine> cyberserver: it has kubuntu packages as well
[03:46] <cyberserver> My goal is to find a netboot image for kubuntu
[03:46] <theine> foobar: and all your wallets are listed in the drop-down menu?
[03:46] <Hobbsee> DeBert: screenshot of it?
[03:46] <Hobbsee> !+bootsplash
[03:46] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Hobbsee
[03:46] <Hobbsee> darn
[03:46] <foobar> yeah
[03:47] <Hobbsee> cyberserver: that has kubuntu as well.
[03:47] <theine> foobar: ok, thanks. good to know that it works for others
[03:47] <foobar> np
[03:48] <cyberserver> theine, Hobbsee : Sorry, I'm not being able to find them there... only ubuntu :-(
[03:48] <Hobbsee> cyberserver: (they're the same)
[03:49] <DeBert> Hobbsee: Okay, i'll make one
[03:49] <Somefilename> Brb.
[03:49] <Hobbsee> DeBert: that'd be cool.  if it has a link on kde-look.org, that'd be useful too
[03:49] <Hobbsee> neat!
[03:49] <Hobbsee> DeBert: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuArtwork
[03:50] <cyberserver> Hobbsee: Hmmmm... ubuntu +kubutu-desktop pakage, its your suggestion... ok..
[03:51] <cyberserver> So.. maybe another question will help me: where is the manual appendix B.2.1 reffered in https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/+bug/16507/+index ?
[03:51] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 16507 in debian-installer "Allow for Kubuntu Netboot" [Normal,Unconfirmed] 
[03:51] <morrow> !bioapi
[03:51] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, morrow
[03:51] <morrow> !fingerprint
[03:51] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, morrow
[03:52] <DeBert> Hobbsee: http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/444/screen8nu.png
[03:52] <Hobbsee> cyberserver: huh?  kubuntu and ubuntu use the same repos
[03:53] <cyberserver> I'm in the quest for what is reffered in that bug as "kubuntu.seed" file
[03:53] <Hobbsee> nice :)
[03:53] <DeBert> Hobbsee: Well, considering i reinstalled kubuntu 30min ago :)
[03:53] <Hobbsee> DeBert: hehe - why'd you reinstall?
[03:54] <DeBert> Hobbsee: I wanted to try the new kororaa for a while
[03:54] <Hobbsee> ah...
[03:54] <Hobbsee> dual boot?
[03:55] <cyberserver> Hobbsee: Hmm... yes... but.. different desktop metapackage I guess. Anyway, I'm looking for a way to get dapper flight6 in my machine, wich I'm having trouble with dapper flight6 image via cd... I would like to try netboot with pxe or usb pen to intall this...
[03:55] <Hobbsee> cyberserver: exactly.  and have you tried a flight 5 cd, and upgrade off that?
[03:55] <Hobbsee> strike!  i'm running out of space!
[03:55] <DeBert> Hobbsee: That usplash in that link you gave used to be in dapper, its better than the current one
[03:56] <Hobbsee> i know
[03:56] <mangusta> does it matter which display manager i use? ubuntu + kubuntu-desktop
[03:56] <Hobbsee> :P
[03:57] <DeBert> But is kubunut recycling what's already out there on kdelook,etc Or are they gonna make something original?
[03:57] <mangusta> Hobbsee, is there any particular pref for the display manager to run kde on? ie, should i run kdm cause i will use kde mostly?
[03:57] <Hobbsee> mangusta: *thinks*...hmmm....braindead...dont know the answer to that one
[03:57] <mangusta> okies
[03:58] <Hobbsee> DeBert: current plan is something original, but i think it's a case of "whatever looks best"
[03:58] <cyberserver> Hobbsee: I would, but I faced  this behaviour on the past:   For instance, when flight5 got out, dist-upgrading fligh4 do current would show me a different desktop whan I would get if I reainstalled from scratch... I supose the dist-upgrade defaults to keep old configs instead of overwriting in the new maintainer configs (wich makes sense) .... but I want to look at the current status of dapper...
[03:58] <Hobbsee> cyberserver: true.  use a new user?
[03:58] <Hobbsee> or purge kubuntu-default-settings, then reinstall it?
[03:59] <cyberserver> Hobbsee: Hmmmm... good point. Stupid of me. Thanks
[03:59] <Hobbsee> :P
[03:59] <Hobbsee> *while
[03:59] <DeBert> Maybe i should get into theming, any good tutorials out there lol?
[04:00] <Hobbsee> got no idea - i dont theme
[04:01] <DeBert> Maybe the community could collect some money to hire a top notch interface designer, i would donate for that :)
[04:01] <mangusta> don't do that, this still might break....
[04:01] <mangusta> !! ;)
[04:01] <ubotu> mangusta: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:01] <me2win> xgl ftw
[04:01] <mangusta> woot, kubuntu installed
[04:02] <mangusta> bbl, must reboot to kde ness
[04:02] <Hobbsee> hehe
[04:02] <mangusta> alright, bbl, hopefully with good news ;)
[04:03] <foobar_> anyone has a good howto / tutorial for setting up a different bootsplash? (one thats working on dapper) or is that one allright? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto
[04:04] <Hobbsee> foobar_: i would assume that one works, yes
[04:06] <foobar_> ok, I'll try it
[04:06] <foobar_> thanks
[04:06] <me2win> Hobbsee: have you gotten xgl working in kubuntu?
[04:06] <Hobbsee> but i'd see the bottom link first, to see what they say..
[04:06] <Hobbsee> me2win: havent tried
[04:06] <me2win> I got it working but now I need to know how to configure it =/
[04:06] <DeBert> xgl is a pain in the ass on kubuntu
[04:06] <Hobbsee> it is on ubuntu as well, dont worry :P
[04:06] <edulix> it's a pain in the ass in old graphic cards
[04:06] <DeBert> me2win: i tried kororaa 0.2, it's the easiest way to get xgl painlessly on kde/gnome
[04:06] <edulix> DeBert: which graphic card?
[04:06] <leila> hi, can i ask sth?
[04:06] <Somefilename> Ofcourse you can, leila.
[04:06] <me2win> DeBert: ive gotten it on kde already, just wanted to see if there was a config file for it so I can mess with the effects etc
[04:07] <DeBert> edulix: Radeon 9800Pro and Nvidia 6800
[04:07] <leila> i wanted to install such a kde app a cube game
[04:07] <leila> The QtGui library >= 4.0.0 could not be found.
[04:07] <Somefilename> leila, Install QtGui using adept.
[04:07] <edulix> mine is
[04:07] <leila> it says when i do ./config
[04:07] <leila> configure
[04:07] <leila> i am not sure which qt library i need in synaptic
[04:07] <edulix> DeBert: mine is a Radeon Mobility 7500
[04:08] <Somefilename> leila, You are using Synaptic? In Kubuntu?
[04:08] <DeBert> edulix: It should work, check http://kororaa.org/ , it comes as a live cd, so you don't have to install anything at all
[04:09] <leila> yes#
[04:09] <leila> it works
[04:09] <Somefilename> leila, Odd - anyways, install QtGui library and try to configure again.
[04:09] <mangusta> woooo
[04:09] <mangusta> it works
[04:09] <mangusta> thanks for your help everyone
[04:10] <leila> is synaptic bad using in kubuntu?
[04:10] <Hobbsee> mangusta: yay
[04:10] <Hobbsee> leila: no, it's fine - it just looks rather ugly :P
[04:10] <edulix> DeBert: only opensource drivers support my graphic card, it's a 4-5 y.o. laptop, if it works I'll be surprised
[04:10] <DeBert> Anybody got a clue when kopete 0.2 will appear in kubuntu? Can't wait cause VOIP with gtalk will be supported in that version. :)
[04:10] <mangusta> now, I just need to lodge a bug thingy so it can be sorted
[04:10] <edulix> I'll download the live
[04:10] <leila> hardcore kde--laughing
[04:10] <Hobbsee> DeBert: you mean kopete 0.12?  ask Tm_T
[04:11] <Hobbsee> he has a separate repo for it, IIRC
[04:11] <leila> uses adept the same sources.list that synaptic uses? @SOMEfilename?
[04:12] <DeBert> Hobbsee: yeah i meant 0.12 thx :)
[04:12] <Hobbsee> leila: yes
[04:12] <Hobbsee> leila: both are a GUI for apt-get
[04:12] <DeBert> edulix: those drivers should be in kororaa 0.2
[04:12] <Somefilename> leila, Yep - sorry, I was away a little.
[04:12] <leila> ok
[04:12] <leila> thank u guys
[04:13] <DeBert> edulix: it's worth a try, it'll only cost you some bandwidth ;)
[04:13] <mangusta> Hobbsee, where should I put the bug? under the libpopper-qt? or for kubuntu-desktop?
[04:13] <Hobbsee> mangusta: which one is this again?
[04:13] <Hobbsee> the source package of libpopper-qt
[04:13] <Hobbsee> seeing as you cant file bugs against binaries
[04:14] <Somefilename> Brb.
[04:14] <Hobbsee> which, IIRC, is poppler - just make sure you mention it's for breezy
[04:15] <Tm_T> ?
[04:15] <Tm_T> what
[04:15] <Hobbsee> Tm_T: kopete 0.12, DeBert wants it
[04:16] <mangusta> basically, for some reason, libpoppler-qt for 0.4.2-0ubuntu6.6 is not available for apt-get etc
[04:16] <DeBert> Hobbsee: lol thx, was afraid to ask  :D
[04:16] <mangusta> so, when you try to install kubuntu, when you have ubuntu updated, it fails, the file is available on launchpad though
[04:16] <Tm_T> DeBert: well, if you like to have jingle support, you have to compile it yourself
[04:16] <Shigutso> where can I find VMWare Tools for VMWare Workstation 5.5 (Linux) ?
[04:16] <mangusta> downloading it and installing manually fixes the issue
[04:16] <DeBert> Tm_T: Oh, it isn't build into 0.12?
[04:17] <Tm_T> DeBert: it is but it's not in my packages
[04:17] <mangusta> however, this may be a bug my machine partuicularly had, cause I did try a lot of random things to get kde to work
[04:17] <Tm_T> DeBert: I can't include it to packages because its still considered as "experimental function" though it haven't caused any problems yet
[04:17] <DeBert> Tm_T: Oh, well than i'll wait, i'm afraid i might brake something
[04:18] <Tm_T> DeBert: also, to compile it, you need to get stuff outside ubuntu repos
[04:18] <DeBert> Tm_T: Are you aware of any other stuff that lets you use voice on gtalk?
[04:18] <Tm_T> DeBert: so, no way to include it to packages, but can be compiled
[04:18] <Tm_T> DeBert: works fine here
[04:18] <mangusta> is there any programs which give Expose - like functionality
[04:20] <me2win> kompose
[04:20] <DeBert> mangusta: F12 in Xgl does i believe :)
[04:20] <me2win> but XGL has made it look purdy
[04:21] <mangusta> cool, will take a look
[04:22] <Tm_T> Xgl is evil
[04:22] <me2win> xgl ftw
[04:22] <mangusta> also, is there a way to get nvidia drivers on?
[04:22] <Tm_T> !nvidia
[04:22] <ubotu> nvidia is, like, totally, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[04:22] <leila> hi, i dont know which library one to choose for correcting this : The QtGui library >= 4.0.0 could not be found
[04:22] <mangusta> awesome
[04:22] <Tm_T> leila: err, what needs that?
[04:22] <leila> i tried a development one but didnt work out
[04:22] <leila> cubetest 0.9.4
[04:23] <Tm_T> interesting
[04:23] <leila> www.kde-apps.org
[04:23] <DeBert> Tm_T: Why is Xgl evil? :)
[04:23] <Tm_T> leila: well, "apt-cache search Qt | grep 4 " will give some hits
[04:23] <leila> i tried two libs but still havent got a clue
[04:23] <Tm_T> DeBert: very immature, unstable, doesn't support KDE etc etc etc
[04:24] <Tm_T> DeBert: and most of all, atleast to me it doesn't give anything
[04:24] <DeBert> Tm_T: Than how could i ran it on my comp with ease using kororaa?
[04:24] <Tm_T> DeBert: totally different
[04:24] <Tm_T> I tested it with kororaa, 3 mins and I got bored
[04:25] <leila> Tm_T thank u i gt 8 things in terminal
[04:25] <Tm_T> leila: yeah ;)
[04:25] <leila> can i install them all at once?
[04:25] <DeBert> Tm_T: True, Xgl isn't exactly a productiviy boost, but it does get rid of screendrag and slow feel
[04:25] <Tm_T> DeBert: not here
[04:25] <Tm_T> DeBert: never had that
[04:25] <DeBert> you have a radeon 8500 than, or something else with decent open source drivers?
[04:25] <Tm_T> DeBert: but well, I use CRT@60 Hz
[04:25] <me2win> linux needs xgl
[04:26] <Tm_T> me2win: hmm, for what?
[04:26] <Tm_T> me2win: yes, it's good, but not yet ready for end users
[04:27] <me2win> it will be soon
[04:27] <me2win> it makes linux feel less old
[04:27] <Tm_T> not soon
[04:27] <Tm_T> me2win: linux doesn't feel old
[04:27] <Tm_T> http://www.tm-travolta.net/shots/current.png
[04:27] <Tm_T> ;)
[04:27] <Tm_T> I switch desktops in 3d easily
[04:28] <Tm_T> without Xgl
[04:28] <leila> Tm_T but it says they are already installed if i do e.g. sudo apt-get install python2.4-sip4-qt3
[04:28] <me2win> Tm_T: its easy to make it look new, but it still feels behind
[04:28] <Tm_T> leila: well, that wasn't what you need =)
[04:28] <DeBert> Tm_T: Well, as long as there are almost no good games on linux, i don't need decent 3d performance anyway :)
[04:28] <Tm_T> me2win: imho not
[04:28] <Tm_T> DeBert: games? there is
[04:29] <leila> Tm_T but?
[04:29] <Tm_T> DeBert: Enemy Territory, UT series, and many more
[04:29] <Tm_T> leila: wait
[04:29] <DeBert> Tm_T: Oh wow, that many?
[04:29] <DeBert> Tm_T: :)
[04:29] <tristanmike> I played ET and was horrified with all the cheating
[04:29] <jacopo> exit
[04:29] <tristanmike> even on supposed "punk buster" servers
[04:29] <Tm_T> tristanmike: what cheating
[04:30] <Tm_T> leila: libqt4-gui etc
[04:30] <tristanmike> the one map that is really open and you have to go to the other side, grab a crate, and bring it back to build your camp
[04:30] <burepe> What is the command I am thinking of? Kdesk Kontrol or something...
[04:30] <tristanmike> people were "ninja jumping"
[04:30] <Tm_T> tristanmike: you've been wrong server then
[04:30] <Tm_T> tristanmike: =)
[04:30] <jonathan_> hello all, is ther a way to make gaim the default application in kde for instant messenger. I have tried but it is not in the pull down menu
[04:30] <ninHertatil> hi all
[04:31] <tristanmike> America's Army was enjoyable :)
[04:31] <leila> Tm_T libqt4-gui is already the newest version.
[04:31] <Tm_T> tristanmike: you should use our pub server then
[04:31] <Tm_T> leila: -dev too
[04:32] <DeBert> jonathan_: System Settings>User Account>Default applications?
[04:32] <jonathan_> yeah, i tried there....it's not in the pull-down
[04:32] <Tm_T> jonathan_: well,what you like to use?
[04:33] <me2win> I really wish kopete would let me arrange my groups how I want to. It would easily get me to use kopete over gaim if it did that
[04:33] <jonathan_> yeah, and on a whole it's more in depth than gaim for me.
[04:33] <Tm_T> me2win: give numbers to groubs
[04:33] <Tm_T> groups
[04:33] <jonathan_> i'm all about functionality, but not in this case :)
[04:33] <leila> Tm_T is it right that i have to install the output of apt-cache search Qt | grep 4 by hand? libqt4-gui and libqt4-gui-dev it says are already installed..
[04:33] <me2win> give numbers?
[04:34] <me2win> I shouldn't have to =/
[04:34] <jonathan_> so no one knows huh?
[04:34] <me2win> Such an easy thing to implement, I don't see why they haven't done it yet
[04:34] <Tm_T> me2win: because it's not that easy to implement
[04:34] <Tm_T> me2win: http://www.tm-travolta.net/shots/kopete-gonedark-mod-1.png
[04:34] <Hobbsee> jonathan_: filed a wishlist bug at bugs.kde.org?
[04:35] <Tm_T> me2win: but, it will be possible in Kopete 1.0 I think
[04:35] <jonathan_> no, i figured first it might not be a bug
[04:35] <Tm_T> me2win: IF we think it's very important
[04:35] <DeBert> Is there a way to add exceptions to konqueror's addblocker?
[04:35] <Tm_T> me2win: but there's more important things to do atm
[04:36] <me2win> Its the only thing that keeps me from using Kopete
[04:36] <Tm_T> me2win: but I really hope we have things going well and time to do functions like that
[04:36] <leila> how can i add a server to the servers list? if i use add and so it says always i misspelled it?
[04:36] <Tm_T> me2win: did you look that screenshot? easy workaround
[04:37] <me2win> yeah, but meh
[04:37] <me2win> what is it exactly that is making it difficult to do that?
[04:38] <Tm_T> me2win: well, time
[04:38] <duelboot> katapult is not recognizing my amarok playlist...any assitance?
[04:38] <Tm_T> me2win: and priority
[04:38] <Hobbsee> jonathan_: no, there's a setting there for wishlist...
[04:38] <Tm_T> me2win: but if you're willing to help us to do it, you're welcome
[04:38] <jonathan_> for just what i asked ?
[04:38] <me2win> Tm_T: i suppose I should look into the API
[04:38] <jonathan_> ok, well thank you for checking that hobbsee
[04:39] <Tm_T> me2win: possibly
[04:39] <Hobbsee> well, there used to be
[04:39] <Tm_T> Hobbsee: good night :)
[04:39] <Hobbsee> hehe
[04:39] <mangusta> nite Hobbsee  thanks for your help
[04:39] <DeBert> bye hobbsee
[04:40] <Hobbsee> cya...
[04:40] <Hobbsee> not a roblem
[04:40] <Hobbsee> s/problem
[04:40] <Tm_T> =)
[04:40] <Tm_T> Hobbsee: GO!
[04:40] <Hobbsee> hehe
[04:41] <Tm_T> off we go ->
[04:42] <mangusta> nite all
[04:42] <mangusta> quit
[04:43] <duelboot> any assitance with my issue above?
[04:44] <me2win> i dont use katapult, not sure
[04:44] <leila> why do many servers of the searchirc.com just not work?
[04:44] <leila> it says when i do add i missppelled it?
[04:47] <burepe> where do I edit samba settings?
[04:48] <dipnlik> hi all. i have a kubuntu hoary cd, do you think it is better to install hoary then upgrade to breezy or dapper or should i download a noew iso?
[04:49] <mangusta> back
[04:49] <me2win> dipnlik: depends on what kind of connection you have I guess
[04:49] <mangusta> just installed nvidia drivers, but now my display is a bit crapped...
[04:49] <mangusta> Black bar down right edge of screen
[04:49] <me2win> dipnlik: if you dist-upgrade from hoary, it might take a while to get the newest updates for breezy
[04:50] <dipnlik> me2win: pppoe adsl, but my modem does the dialing
[04:50] <mangusta> can't remember what causes this, have seen it before, anyone know where to find fix?
[04:50] <chx> hi. how could i remove those files which name begin with 'foo' but not 'foo' itself?
[04:50] <me2win> dipnlik: I would probably just get a new iso
[04:51] <me2win> rm foo*
[04:51] <me2win> but
[04:51] <me2win> that might remove foo also
[04:51] <dipnlik> chx: rename foo to bar :P
[04:52] <Shigutso> I can't use Ctrl+Tab in my Firefox, because this is shortcuted to change the Desktops, but I only use one desktop... how can I desactivate this Ctrl+Tab to finally use in my Firefox??
[04:55] <mangusta> has anyone seen how to fix the nvidia driver issue, where a black bar is down the right side of the screen?
[04:56] <me2win> at login?
[04:56] <mangusta> I have done it once, requires setting some things in the xorg.conf, but i don't know what
[04:56] <mangusta> nah, just in kde
[04:56] <mangusta> it's to do with glx, or one of the other modules
[04:57] <me2win> I have a black bar down the right side, but only at the login prompt, goes away once KDE splash comes up, and i have ati
[04:57] <mangusta> okies
[04:59] <mangusta> me2win, try commenting out the Load "dri" and Load"GLcore" lines in xorg, im pretty sure thats what it is, dont do it yet, I'm about to test it on mine....
[04:59] <mangusta> brb
[05:03] <NoMorePuts> At starup, how would you disable the clock sync routine?
[05:05] <Danny|zzz> anyone here?
[05:05] <edulix> many
[05:05] <edulix> :P
[05:05] <Danny> ok..anyone know what this error means?
[05:05] <Danny> http://dknoppix.pastebin.com/648896
[05:06] <_bbeck> To disable the clock sync just remove that script from you startup directories.  Look at the command update-rc.d
[05:07] <noteventime> 'ello
[05:08] <Danny> anyone know whta this is:
[05:08] <Danny> checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool
[05:11] <noteventime> Danny, search for pearl xml
[05:12] <Danny> ok
[05:12] <farous> Danny: what are you trying to install?
[05:12] <tmdx120> hello
[05:13] <noteventime> brb
[05:13] <Danny> nutrino
[05:13] <Danny> if I can spell it..
[05:13] <_bbeck> It means you need to install libxml-perl.
[05:13] <tmdx120> I have a question about ubgrading. Im a noob.
[05:13] <Danny> ok
[05:14] <tmdx120> i have ubuntu 5.04 and I want to upgrade to 5.10. I have the CD how do I do it?
[05:15] <noteventime> tmdx120, no :)
[05:15] <noteventime> !breezy
[05:15] <ubotu> Breezy is the current stable version of Ubuntu. If you would like to upgrade to it, the guide to upgrading to Breezy is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[05:15] <noteventime> Why do I get indirect mesa (T_T)
[05:15] <noteventime> I have the i810 drivers both configured and installed
[05:16] <tmdx120> Thank you very much!
[05:16] <noteventime> np :9
[05:16] <noteventime> You might consider upgrading to dapper :)
[05:16] <noteventime> !dappe
[05:16] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, noteventime
[05:16] <noteventime> !dapper
[05:16] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[05:17] <tmdx120> why dapper?
[05:17] <noteventime> Its newer :)
[05:17] <Danny> now what is this?
[05:17] <Danny> http://dknoppix.pastebin.com/649566
[05:17] <tmdx120> is dapper available for 64bit?
[05:17] <noteventime> Danny, you need a newer glib
[05:17] <noteventime> tmdx120, Yes
[05:18] <noteventime> brb
[05:18] <nuky> is there a way to monitor internet use? like how much badnwith programs are taking up and which programs are using the internet?
[05:18] <bsm> netstat, iptraf
[05:18] <nuky> because my web browsing is reeeeeeeally slow but my file downloads are ok and i'm a bit confused.. wanted to see if there was a way to monitor it
[05:18] <nuky> bsm: thanks, i'll try them
[05:19] <noteventime> Please someone, Why do get only get mesa indirect renderer?
[05:20] <bsm> god hates you noteventime
[05:20] <me2win> he hates you badly
[05:20] <noteventime> Nah, god is dead
[05:20] <me2win> he lives in XGL-Land
[05:20] <Danny> noteventime, it said I had the current version?
[05:20] <noteventime> 1. Stupid Intel release shitty drivers
[05:20] <noteventime> 2. Now they won't even load
[05:21] <noteventime> Danny, which version?
[05:21] <noteventime> Might be that you also have an older version installed
[05:21] <noteventime> if so, remove the old one
[05:22] <noteventime> Please someone help me, I spent the whole day yesterdey trying to get oger compiled just to know that my drivers couldn't handle it. Now they won't even load at all
[05:25] <duffydack> hi peeps
[05:27] <Danny> oh
[05:27] <Danny> how do I get the older version off?
[05:27] <duffydack> just put kubuntu breezy  on, formatted my external during install,  made a folder for my mp3`s on it, chowned the folder to my user but the files/folders that get made dont keep the owner i set, how do i do that?
[05:28] <beefsprocket> duffydack: I think you need to edit your fstab file to allow users to mount, write, and change files on the external drive
[05:29] <duffydack> ok,  and how would  i do that
[05:29] <beefsprocket> duffydack: i.e. I use the following: /dev/sdc1 /home/beefsprocket/Musica    auto    user,rw,defaults,umask=0002 0 0
[05:29] <Danny> or you could
[05:29] <Danny> go "Kmenu --> Run
[05:29] <Danny> type in kdesu kcontrol
[05:30] <beefsprocket> duffydack: I'm never sure about the umask part, i think it is more needed when using ntfs, but it doesn't hurt to have it just in case
[05:30] <Danny> then go to system Administration --> Disk and file system"
[05:30] <Danny> then click on the external, and then click "Modify" at the bottom
[05:30] <beefsprocket> duffydack: you'll of course want to change /dev/sdc1 to match your drive's /dev/ entry
[05:31] <tmdx120> hello again. I tried using synaptic to upgrade. No go. I tried to add the CD to the repositiory. no go
[05:32] <noteventime> tdmx120, did you change hoary to dapper?
[05:32] <tmdx120> No, Im doing hoary to breezy
[05:32] <noteventime> ok then just change to breezy :D
[05:33] <noteventime> in /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:33] <tmdx120> hmmm. what do I input?
[05:34] <noteventime> kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:35] <leila> who knows a good program for training logic thinking?
[05:36] <n4w3r> svp, je cherche desesperement  ouvrir un fichier kword sous windows, open office n'a pas l'air de connaitre ce format
[05:36] <tmdx120> gotcha but what do I intput into the text editor?
[05:36] <noteventime> !fr
[05:36] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[05:37] <duffydack> k
[05:37] <beefsprocket> wokrs?
[05:37] <duffydack> thanks, ill try it, brb
[05:37] <beefsprocket> *works? ah... nm
[05:37] <duffydack> im tryin your method
[05:37] <beefsprocket> right
[05:38] <beefsprocket> tmdx120: replace every instance of the word hoary with breezy and then save
[05:38] <noteventime> :( Doesn't any one have any ideas?
[05:38] <tmdx120> noteventime oh ok
[05:38] <noteventime> :) then just run sudo apt-get update
[05:38] <tmdx120> do I REPLACE or ADD so that I have BOTH hoary AND breezy?
[05:38] <noteventime> after that is finished sudo apt-get dest-upgrade
[05:39] <beefsprocket> replace
[05:39] <tmdx120> ok
[05:39] <beefsprocket> then do what noteventime says
[05:39] <noteventime> sorry
[05:39] <noteventime> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:39] <noteventime> dist, bot dest :)
[05:39] <noteventime> s/bot/not
[05:42] <duffydack> back,  bit of a prob
[05:42] <duffydack> "/dev/sda3       /media/music    reiserfs noatime,defaults,user,rw,umask=0002 0       0"
[05:43] <duffydack> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda3
[05:43] <noteventime> is it reiserfs?
[05:43] <duffydack> yes
[05:43] <noteventime> And you are sure that sda3 is the right disc?
[05:43] <duffydack> "/dev/sda3       /media/music    reiserfs noatime         0       2"   is what it used to be, and worked
[05:43] <duffydack> yup
[05:47] <duffydack> took the umask out and it works
[05:47] <Danny> yes!
[05:47] <Danny> got gnomad to work
[05:48] <beefsprocket> duffydack: excellent
[05:48] <duffydack> so, how do i get it to maintain permissions?
[05:48] <duffydack> without the umask
[05:49] <beefsprocket> i think the user part takes care of that
[05:49] <beefsprocket> try setting the perimissions on a directory and folders, unmount, and then remount
[05:49] <Danny> anyone use Kopete?
[05:49] <beefsprocket> danny, yep
[05:49] <Danny> why did it change some users to "ICQ Email Express"
[05:49] <Danny> even when they're not away
[05:50] <beefsprocket> I don't use icq...
[05:50] <Danny> nor do I
[05:50] <Danny> I use AIM
[05:50] <beefsprocket> same difference?
[05:50] <duffydack> i dont mean to keep on mount/unmount, i mean , say i own folder temp, (dean:users) and i make a file inside it, it then belongs to dean:dean
[05:50] <Danny> dunno
[05:50] <duffydack> i want it to keep dean:users
[05:52] <beefsprocket> ah ic. that i couldn't tell you -- I'm not very handy with users and chown/chmod stuff
[05:52] <duffydack> think maybe best to mount with my uid/gid
[05:52] <noteventime> :(( I guess I'll have to format my drive X-(
[05:52] <duffydack> but im not sure
[05:54] <beefsprocket> duffydack: you might look into gmask?
[05:54] <beefsprocket> duffydack: pureply speculative, but if you are user 1000 and group 1000, umask=1000,gmask=1000 might do the trick
[05:55] <beefsprocket> that is, if gmask even exists as an option in fstab
[05:56] <duffydack> uid=1000,gid=1000
[05:56] <duffydack> would be the right way  i think
[05:56] <duffydack> doesnt matter, it`ll do as it is
[05:57] <tmdx120> noteven after I edit sources.list file I cannot save even though I opened it as sudo
[05:57] <beefsprocket> right
[05:58] <beefsprocket> tmdx120: you used kdesu kate to open the file right?
[05:58] <tmdx120> no sudo
[05:58] <beefsprocket> so you've got kate open right now?
[05:59] <tmdx120> Ok I did it with Kdesu
[06:00] <duffydack> do i need the user option still in this
[06:00] <duffydack> "/dev/sda3       /media/music    reiserfs noatime,user,rw,uid=1000,gid=1000 0       2"
[06:00] <duffydack> im clueless with fstab options.
[06:00] <beefsprocket> duffydack: I;d say it is redundant with the uid
[06:00] <duffydack> rw?
[06:00] <beefsprocket> tmdx120: so now you'll have to replace haory with breezy again and then save
[06:00] <beefsprocket> read/write
[06:00] <tmdx120> ok done. what next?
[06:00] <duffydack> needed?
[06:00] <beefsprocket> the default is ro read-only I think
[06:01] <duffydack> or does uid take care of it
[06:01] <duffydack> on reiserfs?
[06:01] <beefsprocket> duffydack: I think it will mount readonly by default unless you give it the rw
[06:01] <beefsprocket> tmdx120: saved? then run sudo-apt-get update
[06:01] <beefsprocket> tmdx120: then when that completes, run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:02] <duffydack> damnit,
[06:02] <duffydack> wont work with uid/gid
[06:03] <beefsprocket> duffydack: that's no good then
[06:04] <tmdx120> ok saved updated and now upgrading. THANKYOU
[06:09] <beefsprocket> tmdx120: noteventime is the one to thank :)
[06:09] <noteventime> :/ not really I just began
[06:10] <duffydack> seems adding suid
[06:10] <duffydack> makes me the owner of the mount
[06:10] <noteventime> anyway
[06:10] <beefsprocket> duffydack: does the keep folder permissions and such?
[06:10] <tmdx120> Well thanks for the help anyway both of you.
[06:10] <noteventime> :D I hate making backups before a "disc clean"
[06:10] <beefsprocket> you're welcome indeed then
[06:11] <noteventime> It's like going to a burial
[06:11] <noteventime> tdmx120, np :D
[06:11] <noteventime> tmdx120*
[06:12] <duffydack> dean:dean is owner of mount, so makin files/folders makes same perms
[06:12] <duffydack> i guess it`ll do
[06:12] <duffydack> save me  being root to make a folder
[06:12] <duffydack> on root mount
[06:14] <noteventime> Still noone with an idea why my xserver won't load my drivers?
[06:14] <bins>  /msg nickserv link bge indous
[06:14] <noteventime> It doesn't give any errors from what I can see
[06:14] <duffydack> ok thanks beefsprocket
[06:15] <duffydack> off to set it up some more
[06:24] <ichigo> coucou
[06:32] <apa> join #ubuntu.hu
[06:32] <apa> :)
[06:34] <metalhedd> ever since about a week ago the adept updater has been giving me an error about mimetypes just before it starts up, seems to work fine though, anyone know whats going on?
[06:34] <Somefilename> metalhedd, Whatr's the error message?
[06:35] <metalhedd> Could not find mimetype application/octet stream
[06:37] <beefsprocket> metalhedd: there's a malone bug already filed against that
[06:37] <beefsprocket> PITA though isn't it?
[06:38] <metalhedd> meh, doesn't both me much other than the startling noise it makes when it pops up, everything seems to work just fine
[06:40] <JoHn123> KDE /hald/ auto mount pendrive problem: mounted pendrive no good: .stb...long character bad. i have mount -t iso8859-2 . What file edit?  Sorry bad english :(
[06:40] <LeonWP> hey. can somebody tell me if kdelibs-devel is in the kubuntu-apt-sources?
[06:41] <beefsprocket> LeonWP: I think the package is called kdelibs-dev
[06:41] <LeonWP> ok. is this in the repositorys?
[06:42] <LeonWP> ah, i got it. thanks.
[06:42] <beefsprocket> LeonWP: good
[06:44] <kubuntutaotao> WyabdcRealPeopleTTS of stardict had been moved to "/usr/share", why didn't it pronounce?
[06:44] <tmdx120> hey beef noteventime its finished, what now. reboot?
[06:45] <beefsprocket> tmdx120: no errors? then yes
[06:45] <tmdx120> no errors...
[06:50] <munzir> Hi, What's the name of the applet I can add to monitor my ethernet connection?
[06:51] <seth|lappy> munzir, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperKNetworkmanager for Dapper
[06:52] <Shigutso> I can't use Ctrl+Tab in my Firefox, because this is shortcuted to change the Desktops, but I only use one desktop... how can I desactivate this Ctrl+Tab to finally use in my Firefox??
[06:53] <seth|lappy> Shigutso, in SystemSettings, go to Regional & Accessibility > Keyboard Shortcuts
[06:53] <Shigutso> seth|lappy: thank you... gonna see :)
[06:54] <_admin> preved
[06:55] <_greg> hi ya'll. I'm just starting out with konversation. Is there an easy way to add undernet to the server's list?
[06:56] <tmdx120> Hello again.
[06:56] <tmdx120> I think I have a problem.
[06:56] <Shigutso> after I upgraded my KDE to 3.5.2, my "system:/media" isn't showing nothing... any HDA, HDC, nothing... what happened?
[06:56] <Aikurn> _greg: F2 -> new
[06:57] <munzir> seth|lappy: thanks a lot. I just installed it and ran it from the shell but it says it's not running, how shall I run it?
[06:58] <_greg>  Aikurn what do I put under servers?
[06:58] <seth|lappy> munzir, first, you need to comment out everything in /etc/network/interfaces except for stuff about 'lo'
[06:58] <seth|lappy> munzir, then restart your computer
[06:59] <munzir> seth|lappy: comment everything except lo? this means I will be disconnected, no?
[06:59] <Aikurn> _greg: i have a localized version, you should write something like irc.yourserver.net
[06:59] <seth|lappy> munzir, NetworkManager handles all connections for you
[06:59] <seth|lappy> munzir, however it doesn't work on any connection that has entries in /interfaces
[06:59] <seth|lappy> (for example, if you need static IPs)
[07:00] <munzir> seth|lappy: Umm! thanks a lot for all these valuable tips. i have to go for 20 mins and would be back. i will test it and report if I found you.
[07:00] <_greg>  Aikurn ... tried undernet.org and got "name lookup has failed"
[07:01] <Aikurn> ok, wait a sec
[07:04] <beefsprocket> tmdx120: that's strange
[07:04] <beefsprocket> tmdx120: did you boot the new kernel?
[07:05] <beefsprocket> tmdx120: what about system:/ ? anything there?
[07:08] <tmdx120> Beef - I just went to synaptic and did a 'smart update' Hope that wasnt the wrong thing to do. but it seems to be working.....
[07:09] <beefsprocket> tmdx120: ok good
[07:10] <tmdx120> For some reason, it just unloaded the packages, it didnt upgrade them. Dont know why. Maybe I missed something. Anyway this SEEMS to be doing the job.
[07:19] <Danny> uhh
[07:19] <Danny> something screwed up again
[07:19] <Danny> after the kubuntu login screen loads
[07:19] <Danny> I enter my username and pass
[07:19] <Danny> and then it just stalls
[07:29] <conn> is anyone here using aiglx/compiz on kubuntu?
[07:30] <tmdx120> hey beef. That seems to have done it. Things look a little different. Ill have to explore. Thanks again!
[07:31] <tmdx120> beef for some reason, it has taken my hardrive icons off my desktop. Tried to config desktop, no dice.
[07:35] <tmdx120> hmmm. in fact. I can no longer find my ide drive/paritions.
[07:42] <beefsprocket> tmdx120: I think it has somethign to do with ivman
[07:42] <beefsprocket> you can try apt-get install ivman and see what it does
[07:42] <beefsprocket> but I think that you'll get 2 popups when you insert a disc or plug in a usb drive
[07:44] <jpatrick> hi apokryphos
[07:45] <apokryphos> heyhey
[07:50] <jpatrick> mirshafie|a: please turn off the public aways
[07:53] <Danny> something screwed up again
[07:53] <Danny> after the kubuntu login screen loads
[07:53] <Danny> I enter my username and pass
[07:53] <Danny> and then it just stalls
[07:54] <Blissex> Danny: stalls usually are caused by some computer name/DNS problems like it is trying to find a name and there is no response from a DNS server...
[07:54] <Blissex> Danny: try to make sure that your computer name is in '/etc/hosts'
[07:55] <Danny> Blissex, it was working after I restared it multiple times
[07:55] <Danny> it connects to my wireless network fine
[08:23] <stian> Hey, anyone into podcasting, and perhaps could suggest a link or two with information and hints and such for pocasting from linux/kde/kubuntu?
[08:34] <cosmic_> hi @ all
[08:34] <tristanmike> hi cosmic_
[08:35] <cosmic_> , tristanwike hi
[08:35] <cosmic_> na alles kloar?
[08:35] <tristanmike> sorry, english only here
[08:35] <cosmic_> ???
[08:36] <cosmic_> lol
[08:36] <cosmic_> so how are you
[08:36] <tristanmike> great :)
[08:36] <cosmic_> fine
[08:36] <tristanmike> thanx, you ?
[08:36] <cosmic_> same thx
[08:36] <cosmic_> :)
[08:37] <cosmic_> so tell me do you use apache?
[08:37] <tristanmike> no, sorry, just a desktop user here :P
[08:37] <cosmic_> never mind
[08:37] <cosmic_> i like desktop user
[08:37] <cosmic_> ;P
[08:38] <cosmic_> and what is your oppinion about kubuntu ?
[08:38] <cosmic_> ??? once again plz
[08:39] <bobbyd> hi
[08:39] <stian> tristanmike is larger than 3 K/Ubuntus
[08:39] <cosmic_> hi
[08:39] <cosmic_> lol
[08:39] <cosmic_> ok i see
[08:39] <bobbyd> is there a tool in KDE to clean out broken/missin menu items? I seem to remember something from a while ago...
[08:39] <stian> tristanmike: no <3 is greater than three :P
[08:39] <cosmic_> :)
[08:39] <tristanmike> except the Grinch's
[08:40] <cosmic_> where do you guys come from ?
[08:40] <stian> but currently I reside in norway
[08:40] <cosmic_> cool :)
[08:40] <cosmic_> oh norway ... interesting
[08:40] <Red_Herring> im from chicago
[08:40] <tristanmike> but currently I reside in Canada
[08:40] <stian> cosmic_: thanks to global warming, norway is not so cool :P quite warm :)
[08:41] <cosmic_> chicago ... good
[08:41] <Red_Herring> no, chicago is boring
[08:41] <cosmic_> oh sorry stian i thought so ... :)
[08:41] <cosmic_> i lived in the Uk for 3 jears jpatric
[08:42] <clem_yeats> what software do you read DVD with ?
[08:42] <jpatrick> well right now I'm in Spain
[08:42] <clem_yeats> I mean.. do you use Kaffeine or something else ?
[08:42] <jpatrick> i use KMPlayer
[08:43] <cosmic_> greetings to malgrat del mar then
[08:43] <stian> I use xbox media center :)
[08:43] <jpatrick> !info kmplayer
[08:43] <clem_yeats> stian: is that a bootable system ? or an application ?
[08:43] <stian> clem_yeats: uhm, it's an app for the xbox :)
[08:44] <clem_yeats> ok
[08:44] <stian> clem_yeats: so really my comment was quite unappropriate
[08:45] <cosmic_> does somebody know how to eleminate problems on apache ? :)
[08:46] <Red_Herring> what problems?
[08:47] <cosmic_> I had apache installed (v.1.13. or so) then i installed apache 2.x and know i have got problems with my virtual hosts ! the first works ... but the second doesn't
[08:47] <cosmic_> xcause my english
[08:47] <cosmic_> plz
[08:48] <cosmic_> both have the same config and the directorys have the same ... rights ?
[08:48] <Red_Herring> cosmic_: nope, they have different config files
[08:49] <cosmic_> sorry but they have one !
[08:49] <Red_Herring> and some of the directories are different
[08:49] <Red_Herring> but i cant help you w/ apache1 because i have apache2 and have always used apache2
[08:50] <cosmic_> i have apache 2 too
[08:50] <cosmic_> could i paste you my config file?
[08:50] <Red_Herring> hrm, id suggest waiting for someone here w/ more expericance
[08:51] <Red_Herring> cuz i cant tell you how to set up virtual hosts and all
[08:52] <cosmic_> http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/667/
[08:53] <cosmic_> okidoki , thx for trying anywhere
[08:55] <cosmic_> <-- going smoking
[08:59] <cosmic_> <-- back again
[09:00] <cosmic_> does anyone now where i could get an codec for wmv -files (xine)
[09:00] <cosmic_> ???
[09:02] <jpatrick> libxine-extracodecs
[09:03] <cosmic_> thx
[09:04] <cosmic_> does someone think that kubuntu is slower than than winXP ?
[09:05] <jpatrick> Not me
[09:06] <cosmic_> hm...
[09:09] <DeBert> cosmic_: browsing in konqueror is sometimes
[09:09] <cosmic_> and opening programs generally  i think
[09:10] <cosmic_> re Red_Herring
[09:11] <Red_Herring> grrr, stupid wireless card!
[09:12] <cosmic_> :)
[09:14] <swaits_> hi all.. i have a question.  i switched to ubuntu on my laptop (from XP) a few weeks ago and have liked it.  but then last night I installed kubuntu-desktop and decided I like it better.  today I want to go for a clean kubuntu install..  just wondering if I should use Breezy or Flight 6?
[09:15] <Aikurn> i'm using flight 5 and so far it's stable
[09:16] <swaits_> ok..
[09:16] <swaits_> so when Dapper goes final, will it be easy to upgrade from Flight whatever to the final Dapper?
[09:16] <Raer> Can anyone help me on how to update de kernel?
[09:17] <Aikurn> swaits_: very easy
[09:17] <swaits_> Ok.. I'll go with flight 6 then.  thanks!
[09:18] <Aikurn> np, but be aware it's a testing release and bugs happen :)
[09:19] <cosmic_> cu @ all
[09:19] <foobar> hmm my keyboard encoding is wrong in many kde programs, what can I do about that? e.g. in kopete,kmail or in the console i cant type any special chars, i see them perfectly though... in other programs it does work, e.g. firefox, kdissert, amarok
[09:19] <foobar> got KDE 3.5.2 with dapper, dunno what to do
[09:23] <janushead> Riddell: ping
[09:23] <Riddell> janushead: hi
[09:23] <janushead> Riddell: <-- seele
[09:23] <Riddell> aah
[09:23] <janushead> do zou have the link to the pastebin link zou sent me a few dazs
[09:24] <janushead> ack.. sorrz.. german kezbaord
[09:24] <Tm_T> =)
[09:24] <Tm_T> zz
[09:24] <Tm_T> waz iz daz
[09:24] <Riddell> kubuntu.pastebin.com ?
[09:24] <flodine> hi guys im tring to change the start menu icon is this possible?
[09:25] <flodine> anyone
[09:26] <janushead> oi, well.. what the hell then.  my interfaces file is right
[09:27] <flodine> someone please help this noob
[09:27] <Tm_T> flodine: yes
[09:27] <duffydack> finally, got kubuntu installed how i like... apart from ati driver, no doubt i will have grief installin the latest
[09:28] <Tm_T> flodine: not easy, not clean, but yes
[09:28] <duffydack> one thing... how the hell do you tell firefox to download files to your home folder...
[09:28] <duffydack> it wont set it to anywhere (in home) but Desktop
[09:28] <flodine> Tm_T is it hard
[09:29] <Tm_T> flodine: well, you have to modify the icon it's currently using or modify the code of kicker
[09:29] <Tm_T> flodine: modifying icon is option in your case I think
[09:30] <flodine> Tm_T well tell me this when i install a new icon set where is it located
[09:30] <flodine> maybe i can chane it there
[09:30] <vge> flodine: have you tryed kbfx?
[09:31] <Tm_T> flodine: kmenu.png in /usr/share/icons/<icontheme>
[09:31] <flodine> whats kbfx
[09:31] <Tm_T> something evil I think
[09:31] <flodine> lol
[09:31] <MetaMorfoziS> kbfx is a kicker applet
[09:31] <MetaMorfoziS> that replaces the kmenu's butto
[09:31] <MetaMorfoziS> n
[09:31] <MetaMorfoziS> and you can add own k-menu images
[09:32] <vge> i donno if it's still buggy
[09:32] <Tm_T> ..did I say 'evil' already? ;)
[09:32] <MetaMorfoziS> but it's bugous and spare
[09:32] <MetaMorfoziS> i tryed it
[09:32] <MetaMorfoziS> big pest to make it
[09:33] <MetaMorfoziS> and spare:)
[09:33] <vge> i was lucky enought to find a deb, but i just hated some of it's bugs
[09:33] <MetaMorfoziS> it isn't in package
[09:34] <MetaMorfoziS> iirc it's only in source
[09:34] <MetaMorfoziS> and you may build it if you're crazy
[09:34] <Icke> hi
[09:35] <Icke> can anyone shed some light on the support of Kubuntu for USB harddisks?
[09:35] <Icke> do all brands work equally good (or bad)?
[09:35] <ubuntu_rocks> i can't hear sound when playing mp3s with amarok?
[09:35] <flodine> i dont believe its that hard to change a icon
[09:36] <MetaMorfoziS> flodline, believe.
[09:36] <MetaMorfoziS> :)
[09:36] <flodine> no
[09:36] <MetaMorfoziS> you can create your own icon set
[09:36] <MetaMorfoziS> or your own applet
[09:36] <MetaMorfoziS> no other way i think
[09:36] <MetaMorfoziS> or!
[09:36] <MetaMorfoziS> modify an icon set...
[09:36] <flodine> well i can find the theme i installed vista iconset
[09:36] <MetaMorfoziS> i can't recognise people why install "win" based things
[09:37] <MetaMorfoziS> vista win deco
[09:37] <MetaMorfoziS> iconset
[09:37] <MetaMorfoziS> loginscreen other
[09:37] <MetaMorfoziS> broaf
[09:37] <MetaMorfoziS> i'm not on linux for see any ms term.
[09:38] <MetaMorfoziS> Okay, i has internet explorer because i'm webdeveloper, but i'm not use it for browsing, and i hasn't got any other ms sw.
[09:38] <duffydack> someone make linux port of Movie Collector an i`ll dump Wine
[09:39] <MetaMorfoziS> nc
[09:39] <duffydack> also, openoffice is the worst program ever invented....so i have to use MS.. wish i didnt.
[09:39] <vge> i have my vmware for windows if i need it
[09:39] <jonathan_> VIVA LA VMWARE
[09:40] <vge> :)
[09:40] <MetaMorfoziS> openoffice is thebest program ever created for NON DOCUMENTED and SHIT standards
[09:40] <duffydack> openoffice is ok but it just doesnt cut the mustard after using msoffice so long..sorry..    isnt vmware with windows installed like, defeating the object?
[09:40] <jonathan_> no daffy
[09:40] <duffydack> i try not piss in the wind too much .
[09:40] <jonathan_> there are somethings it's nice to have it there
[09:41] <jonathan_> not often, but i do use it rarely
[09:41] <duffydack> ye i use it , not sayin its bad, just sayin,
[09:41] <jonathan_> and I'd rather not have to restart, do what i need to do, and then restart again
[09:41] <vge> i just use it to see my webpages i make
[09:41] <jonathan_> besides I feel safer with it than crossover office sometimes
[09:42] <jonathan_> quite honestly, I don't want to be a page down the road and it die on me
[09:42] <jonathan_> lol, yes every now and again i forget to save
[09:42] <vge> somebody can tell me why IRC dont work on my new kernel? :)
[09:42] <jonathan_> cause it's messed up
[09:43] <jonathan_> that's why :D
[09:43] <vge> irc or the kernel? :)
[09:43] <jonathan_> nothing, i was being a smartass....
[09:43] <jonathan_> every so often i have to be, it's an addiction :)
[09:43] <vge> well all other "internet" things work, but no IRC connect
[09:44] <jonathan_> hey wait...it doesn't make connection does it
[09:44] <jonathan_> seriously i think i had that issue for awhile with dapper
[09:44] <vge> well i stops
[09:45] <jonathan_> mine just keep remote connection something...been a few days so i never thought about it again when it started working
[09:45] <vge> [22:19]  [Notice]  -- *** Found your hostname
[09:45] <vge> [22:20]  [Notice]  -- *** No identd (auth) response
[09:45] <vge> those are the last lines i get
[09:45] <vge> then it just stays there, no connection, but connected, or something
[09:45] <jonathan_> i don't suppose you have tried another client for fun
[09:46] <vge> about 3-4, all the same result
[09:46] <jonathan_> are you going to the same place each time
[09:46] <vge> differents servers, same thing
[09:47] <vge> when i boot to my old kernel, all works fine
[09:47] <jonathan_> did you make the kernel?
[09:47] <jonathan_> the new one i mean
[09:47] <vge> from vanilla yes
[09:48] <vge> patched it to 2.6.17-rc1
[09:48] <jonathan_> i would say there is an option somewhere you didn't do or something
[09:48] <stian> Hey people, how do I select a differen wireless network
[09:48] <stian> I seem to have connected to my neighbours, and can't figure out how to get onto my own :PO
[09:48] <vge> if you see your wireless, consider yourself lucky -.-
[09:48] <vge> :)
[09:49] <jonathan_> try i think kwireless stian
[09:49] <stian> vge: what?
[09:49] <jonathan_> you might have to install it
[09:49] <jonathan_> apt-get install kwireless
[09:50] <vge> stian: : naah, i cant really help with wireless, i updated my kernel for support, then it just dont let me go into IRC, stupid kernel
[09:50] <stian> jonathan_: thanks
[09:50] <alex_> hey, im running gonome but i cant start kde apps
[09:50] <jonathan_> hang on
[09:50] <alex_> http://pastebin.com/650066
[09:50] <jonathan_> lemmie make sure stian
[09:50] <stian> vge: wireless runs out of the box for me :)
[09:50] <stian> hmm, jonathan_ yeah do that, cause there's no such package :)
[09:51] <jonathan_> there is a kwireless but it's not what you wany
[09:51] <jonathan_> network-manager-kde
[09:51] <jonathan_> that's it, i'm looking at it in synaptic
[09:52] <jonathan_> i'm not sure how great it is, but i use it on my laptop and it's great
[09:52] <stian> hmm, ok, I'll try
[09:52] <jonathan_> ahhh, it's nice having a card with native drivers...no ndiswrapper crap
[09:52] <vge> jonathan_: dapper packet?
[09:52] <stian> yeah
[09:53] <jonathan_> what?
[09:53] <vge> breezy dont have that
[09:53] <stian> centrino chipset is teh shizzle :)
[09:53] <stian> hmm
[09:53] <jonathan_> yeah, thats what i have
[09:53] <jonathan_> well, just the intel card...close enough
[09:53] <jonathan_> yeah, crap
[09:54] <jonathan_> stian, is this a new install?
[09:54] <vge> hmm, ill try to boot to my 2.6.17-rc1 kernel, try to get into irc, any suggestions? :)
[09:54] <jonathan_> LOL, sorry vge...i wish i did
[09:54] <jonathan_> google...i can check there
[09:55] <stian> jonathan_: nah, it's a month old or so, but up to date dapper
[09:55] <vge> hmm, can i get webirc connect to freenode?
[09:55] <Parkotron> What's the easiest way to record ALSA's output to a wave?
[09:55] <jonathan_> ok, well if you have the dapper reps it should be there
[09:56] <DeBert> Hey guys, read the story on OSNews: http://www.osnews.com
[09:56] <jonathan_> that might be going through 80 though
[09:57] <stian> jonathan_: network-manager-kde, does that give the command "knetworkmanager"?
[09:57] <jonathan_> after you install it you should see it in "internet" on the kmenu
[09:58] <stian> hmm
[09:58] <stian> as what?
[09:59] <DeBert> Looks like Kubuntu is in serious trouble
[09:59] <jonathan_> lol....your going to make me go get my laptop aren't you :)
[09:59] <stian> I didn't get anything new, then again, menus don't seem like they update when supposed to, only when restarting kde :P
[09:59] <stian> DeBert: what makes you say that?
[09:59] <stian> jonathan_: hehe, no worries
[09:59] <stian> jonathan_: hehe, i can probably figure it out:P
[09:59] <jonathan_> i will if you need me to
[10:00] <DeBert> stian: read http://www.osnews.com
[10:00] <noteventime> How do I uninstall icon themes?
[10:00] <stian> jonathan_: hehe, did it go into the system tray with an icon where you could select the network? cause I did get that one (knetworkmanager) but it is unable to connect to the NetworkManager process
[10:02] <slow-motion> bye
[10:02] <vge> good, now i have a webirc
[10:02] <jonathan_> lol....brb, let me go get it
[10:02] <asadasadasa> good indeed
[10:02] <DeBert> Hmmm, little responce for such a disturbing story....
[10:03] <stian> DeBert: you gotta let me read it first ;)
[10:03] <mindspin> DeBert: maybe discuss it in #ubuntu-offtopic or in #kubuntu-offtopic
[10:03] <DeBert> You think the possible death of our distro is offtopic?
[10:05] <Shigutso> a simple question
[10:05] <mindspin> no but this is a help channel and for me its not the possible death
[10:05] <Blissex> DeBert: some notions: apparently Shuttleworth uses Kubuntu himself; however free sw is done on a ''scratch my itch'' principle...
[10:05] <mindspin> I#m almost getting angryer about the step the kubuntu-de people have taken
[10:06] <mindspin> and I#m german too
[10:06] <buz> that text is highly offending
[10:06] <jonathan_> I read it but I guess i'm not understanding
[10:07] <jonathan_> how involved are these people in kubuntu?
[10:07] <Shigutso> i have kubuntu here, but i also have a 10gb free partition in this HD. If I install Windows XP on it, does Windows XP going to manipulate my boot system, and Windows is going to load instead of Linux? or nothing will change and I will can change the Grub settings?
[10:07] <Vge> now, lets see how a konversation gets to irc
[10:07] <Vge> nope, it dont :/
[10:07] <jonathan_> sorry vge
[10:08] <Vge> this is just stupid
[10:08] <Shigutso> Vge: was that answer to me?
[10:08] <stian> grr
[10:08] <conn> Shigutso: yes, Windows will overwrite the MBR, and therefore, GRUB
[10:08] <Blissex> Shigutso: XP will install its own booter, then you can reinstall GRUB from the Ubuntu install CD
[10:08] <DeBert> Kubuntu is the only decent KDE distro now, would be said if something terrible happened to it...
[10:09] <Shigutso> damn... isn't that a easier way? damn windows xp... :/
[10:09] <Shigutso> isn't there*
[10:09] <Vge> DeBert: is there something happening to it?
[10:10] <DeBert> Vge: Well, a couple of devs are complaining about lack of support from canonical
[10:10] <conn> Shigutso: unfortunately not, you'll need to restore GRUB from the CD, after installing XP
[10:10] <stian> jonathan_: if you figured it out while I was missing and said something I'd be grateful if you could repeat :P my neighbour might either a) be getting cranky, or b) having fun
[10:10] <jonathan_> lol
[10:10] <jonathan_> i'm looking
[10:10] <Shigutso> conn: but will i have to reinstall the whole kubuntu or can i just reinstall grub?
[10:10] <Vge> soo, who can tell me, why this netirc works, but none of my IRC clients?
[10:11] <buz> firewall likely
[10:11] <Vge> is that a kernel option?
[10:11] <stian> uhm
[10:12] <jonathan_> LOL....ok, I'm dumb
[10:12] <conn> Shigutso: oh don't worry, as long as you're careful when installing XP not overwrite your Ubuntu partition, your data will be safe
[10:12] <Vge> Shigutso: you can reinstall grup with the kubuntu cd
[10:12] <jonathan_> the package is wlassistant
[10:12] <stian> aha
[10:13] <stian> :)
[10:13] <stian> *apt-getting*
[10:13] <conn> Shigutso: read through this before going through with the install: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76652
[10:13] <jonathan_> did you look for that network-manager in kcontrol?
[10:13] <Vge> is somekind of firewall a kernel option, "firewall build in" i have heard?
[10:13] <Shigutso> conn: ok... thank you :)
[10:14] <jonathan_> stian did you look for that network-manager in kcontrol?
[10:14] <conn> no prob, just remember to write down the instructions, as you won't be able to reboot into Ubuntu and check that bookmark, heh
[10:17] <Vge> this is just stupid :/
[10:17] <wonderfulJoe> hello good people of the Kubuntu worlde!
[10:18] <stian> jonathan_: yay :D thanks for you assistance ;)
[10:18] <jonathan_> hey, thinking about it
[10:18] <jonathan_> lol...i think that network-manager i told you to install is found in kcontrol ..lol
[10:18] <jonathan_> i'm sorry, it's an off day
[10:18] <stian> lol
[10:19] <stian> jonathan_: but network-manager didn't work
[10:19] <stian> so still missing something to put in the tray :(
[10:20] <stian> but now at least I can choose what network to connect to :P
[10:20] <jonathan_> hmm, well at least it's working foryou now :)
[10:20] <stian> yeah
[10:21] <wonderfulJoe> I am doing a dist-upgrade from breezy to dapper; after all the magic of aptitude happened, I was left with packages that were "held back". Where do I go from here?
[10:22] <wonderfulJoe> "154 not upgraded."
[10:23] <wonderfulJoe> are my dependencies royally screwed?
[10:23] <JasonF> wonderfulJoe: try doing an apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:23] <JasonF> or reinstalling ubuntu-base and kubuntu-desktop
[10:24] <wonderfulJoe> hmmm...those things didn't work
[10:24] <wonderfulJoe> apt-get dist-upgrade was what got me here
[10:25] <wonderfulJoe> and I'm not very advanced at using apt-get
[10:25] <JasonF> wonderfulJoe: did you aptitude dist-upgrade?
[10:25] <jonathan_> I'm just sitting here ticked off over this kubuntu.de thing
[10:25] <JasonF> aptitude might fix some stuff
[10:26] <JasonF> wonderfulJoe: if you aren't that advanced at "using apt-get" why are you changing to a development version of linux?
[10:26] <jpatrick> jonathan_: they have gone overboard today yes
[10:27] <wonderfulJoe> JasonF: I'd like to stay on the bleeding edge, and besides, I'd have no other motivation to learn more about apt-get
[10:27] <jonathan_> it's stupid
[10:27] <wonderfulJoe> I come from the Gentoo worlde
[10:27] <chouette> !diskmounter
[10:27] <ubotu> diskmounter is, like, to automatically mount your ntfs, fat32 or hfs+ drives, download and read http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter
[10:27] <alex_> http://pastebin.com/650066
[10:27] <alex_> hey, im running gonome but i cant start kde apps
[10:27] <jonathan_> jpatrick: i mean i could understand somewhat, but they are griping without showing evidence or without explaining on their irc room
[10:28] <jonathan_> and I would still like someone to tell me just what and how much do they benefit the distro?
[10:28] <jpatrick> jonathan_: I'm a developer, I don't mind not being paided
[10:29] <jonathan_> well, i do completely understand not being paid
[10:29] <jonathan_> food is important :) ....but my problem is no explaining...just griping and nothing to back it up with
[10:31] <ehjay> is there a place to leave feedback for dapper?  I just upgraded from breezy and have some feedback
[10:32] <Blippe> ehjay, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/dapper/
[10:32] <ehjay> Blippe: thanks
[10:33] <Tallia1Kubuntu> is there a way to leech streaming mp3 in linux?
[10:35] <DeBert> Tallia1Kubuntu: I know streamripper can do it
[10:35] <nico8481> how can i get K3B to burn audiocd's from MP3? now it seems not to recognize the format... it works ok with ogg though...
[10:35] <wonderfulJoe> TallialKubuntu: http://streamripper.sourceforge.net/
[10:36] <Vge> arrrgh
[10:36] <ehjay> Blippe: any idea where on that site to leave feedback?  As bugs?
[10:36] <wonderfulJoe> nico8481: you probably don't have mp3 codecs installed
[10:37] <wonderfulJoe> nico8481: try installing lame and you should have all the libraries you need
[10:38] <wonderfulJoe> nico8481 : K3B should automatically find mp3 codecs once they're installed and be able to use them
[10:38] <Tallia1Kubuntu> DeBert: i can't use it!! since i have to log in with password and username before...
[10:39] <Tallia1Kubuntu> DeBert: is there a way to include StreamRipper in firefox?
[10:39] <Tallia1Kubuntu> in this way the authentication would be used !! :)
[10:39] <paulvolk> Is there any way of changing grubs background?
[10:40] <DeBert> Tallia1Kubuntu: dunno
[10:42] <wonderfulJoe> paulvolk: interesting article: http://susewiki.org/index.php?title=Change_GRUB_background
[10:42] <wonderfulJoe> paulvolk : looks like all the grub graphical stuff is a simple cpio archive
[10:42] <viator> streamripper
[10:42] <jonathan_> jpatirck are you still there
[10:43] <paulvolk> wonderfulJoe: Thanks
[10:45] <juliano> where's the pendrive's folder in kubuntu?
[10:45] <viator> you want to record rhapsody streams
[10:45] <viator> i bet
[10:46] <jindiaz> hey guys i have some questions about setting up a dula boot system, can anyone give me some straight answers for like 5 mins?
[10:47] <viator> aks'
[10:47] <viator> ask away\
[10:47] <Vge> somebody can tell why cant i use port 6667 on kernel 2.6.17, but 2.6.10 works well?
[10:48] <jindiaz> cool, ok firs thing is, after i install the kubuntu onto my main hd, does windows have a problem with reading from linux formateed hd's??
[10:48] <jindiaz> i have 4 hd's
[10:48] <viator> windows cant read linux drives
[10:48] <viator> onluss maybe its ext2
[10:49] <viator> theres a driver for windows
[10:49] <jindiaz> crapppppppppp that sucks alot....
[10:49] <viator> thats not to say you cant have a samba share
[10:50] <viator> you would have to make a pation vfat or somthing
[10:50] <jindiaz> ok well it doesnt matter i suppose, the only purpose for windows is games, and maybe photoshop.  of my 960 gb, its only getting like 50gb, the rest is linux
[10:50] <qpwoeiruty> i have used the driver at www.fs-driver.org to read EXT volumes under windows
[10:50] <qpwoeiruty> it reads EXT3 as EXT2, so it seems to force an fsck when you reboot into linux
[10:50] <viator> gpwoeiruty  does ext3 well then?
[10:51] <jindiaz> yah, but the thing is, its 4 hds internally.  so the samba share prolly wont work
[10:51] <qpwoeiruty> it reads them as EXT2, but yes it works fine
[10:51] <viator> cool
[10:52] <jindiaz> ok, so that was my first concern, second is after i have moved all my data from the other hds, how do i format them into the linux format
[10:52] <jindiaz> which i dont knoe what that is called either btwe
[10:52] <Tallia1Kubuntu> DeBert: i found another way!!
[10:52] <viator> the installer will do it
[10:52] <viator> it uses partimage
[10:52] <Tallia1Kubuntu> DeBert: once you have mplayer plugin open in firefox, just Save Page As... and the stream is downloaded.. USING log in information too :):)
[10:52] <Tallia1Kubuntu> awesome!
[10:53] <viator> a script/app to do anything you like
[10:53] <viator> think of it like partion magic
[10:53] <viator> or somthing like that
[10:53] <jindiaz> but they will be in ntfs format and have data during the install, i plan to unplug them while kubunt is being installed, and afterwards do all that moving around
[10:53] <jindiaz> the thing is, the data will be moved around alot
[10:54] <jindiaz> of the 960gb, like 800 gb is taken up
[10:54] <Vge> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/650175 <-- do i need iptables?
[10:54] <viator> youlol
[10:54] <viator> 800 gb is that movies?
[10:54] <viator> music?
[10:54] <jindiaz> nope, alllllllllllll movies are burnt, music is only 80 gb
[10:54] <viator> you already should have iptables
[10:54] <viator> whats taking up the space?
[10:55] <Vge> viator:  this is new kernel, do i need it?
[10:55] <viator> vge yes
[10:55] <viator> id get it
[10:55] <qpwoeiruty> jindiaz - how is that 960G setup - windows RAID? hardware RAID?
[10:56] <jindiaz> well i belive i pay for internet, so why pay for tv?  it "should" be all inclusive... lol.  so its all tv shows, anime, regular tc, cartoons, everything, ive turned my pc into the all inclusive machine... its beautiful
[10:56] <jindiaz> hahaha
[10:56] <jindiaz> ummmmmmmmm hardware raid i believe, i have an asus p4p800-e deluxe mobo, it supports to hda ports
[10:56] <jindiaz> so each one off the mobo goes to two hd's
[10:58] <jindiaz> but anywho, so after i set them up so linux recognizes them, which ive had to do before, it will styll be in NTFS fromat, what im wondering is, is there a format command, or GUI in kde somewhere for this purpose?
[10:59] <comrade> does kubuntu install koffice or whatever and open office?
[10:59] <jindiaz> ipen office man
[11:00] <jindiaz> it comes with it
[11:00] <qpwoeiruty> jindiaz - are you wanting to change the format without losing the data?
[11:00] <viator> you cant change a drives filetype as far as i know from ntfs to somthing else without losing data
[11:00] <jindiaz> YOU CAN DO THAT!?!?!?!?!?!
[11:00] <comrade> so no koffice then
[11:00] <viator> makefs
[11:00] <viator> doesnt work that way
[11:00] <jindiaz> yahhh i didnt think so, that would be hardcroe.  lol.  but no, ill have all the data transfered, so they will be empty ntfs drives
[11:01] <jindiaz> they just need to be formated
[11:01] <viator> if the drives are empty
[11:01] <jindiaz> into the format filesystem that linux uses
[11:01] <viator> just leave them in there
[11:01] <viator> when you install
[11:01] <viator> or you can
[11:01] <viator> afterwarsd
[11:01] <viator> use
[11:01] <viator> qtparted
[11:02] <Parkotron> jindiaz: You may want to consider
[11:02] <jindiaz> lol, well no, they will be empty after the install, because i have to do alot of file moving around after kubuntu is installed
[11:02] <qpwoeiruty> i might suggest using qtparted or cfdisk to delete the ntfs partitions
[11:02] <viator> i see
[11:02] <qpwoeiruty> and create new ones, then format
[11:02] <Vge> http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1497176 <-- what "processor family" i can put to my processor, i have 386 now :/
[11:02] <qpwoeiruty> so that the partition type number is correct
[11:03] <jindiaz> ok cool, so qtparted or cfdisk, is ther a page i can read about how to properly use these commands?
[11:04] <viator> intel celeron i686
[11:05] <viator> i dont touch a vanilla kernel unless i need somthing specific that a recompile will give me
[11:05] <viator> but each to their own
[11:05] <Vge> viator: well it does, thats the point
[11:06] <viator> dont look for any serios sped increases or anything
[11:06] <Vge> i know
[11:06] <qpwoeiruty> jindiaz - they are both pretty straightforward to use
[11:06] <Vge> 586/K5/5x86/6x86/6x86MX <-- this one?
[11:07] <qpwoeiruty> if you search there are a few articles on how to use qtparted with knoppix
[11:08] <viator> weird
[11:09] <jindiaz> ok cool, so i guess its fundamenetally the same.  the thing is i just want to get it right the first time on my main pc.  this is my downgrade pc that i have linux on now and want to switch my main pc to linux as well, but need windows for games and such.  my main pc is too sexy to mess up... hahaha
[11:10] <jindiaz> its my tv, stereo, everthing in one, so sorta have to get it ryght
[11:10] <viator> those arent yours
[11:12] <jindiaz> those arenmt mine?  are yu talking to me???
[11:13] <jindiaz> hey actually one more question in regards to my vid card and monitor, i purchased them specifically for this linux switch
[11:14] <jindiaz> i bought a nvidia 6600 gt agp, cause its an agp mobo so didnt want to buy something to good ryght now, waiting on the pci conversion to like next year, but anyways, is there a gui for customizing the nvida settings???
[11:14] <jindiaz> i got nvidia cause it works well with linux
[11:14] <jindiaz> apparently
[11:14] <jindiaz> and second, the monitor is an acer 1916 widescreen, does linux have problems with widescreen support??? plz say no
[11:14] <jindiaz> hahaha
[11:15] <tarmath> it does not
[11:15] <LeeJunFan> way better than ATI, but unfortunately I've been cursed with ATI on all my latest laptops in the last 4 or so years so I don't know about the nvidia tools.
[11:15] <qpwoeiruty> jindiaz - my dell 2005fpw widescreen works perfectly
[11:15] <LeeJunFan> widescreen is fine.
[11:15] <tarmath> and generally you dont need to configure the settings, the auto detection alone should do it
[11:16] <LeeJunFan> I'm done with ATI, all my next purchases will be nvidia. ATI and linux sucks.
[11:16] <qpwoeiruty> i've been burned by ATI 3 times over the years
[11:16] <tarmath> linux sucks? WHAT?
[11:16] <tarmath> hehe
[11:16] <qpwoeiruty> which happens to be the same number of cards that i have bought from them
[11:17] <qpwoeiruty> i keep getting fooled by reviews saying they are great
[11:17] <tarmath> ATI sucks for not making good linux drivers
[11:17] <jindiaz> hahahahahaha, yah man, i put my old ati radeon 7500 into this downgrade pc, and it wouldnt boot afterwards, had to reinstall the whole os to get it up and running again
[11:17] <jindiaz> i was so pissed
[11:17] <qpwoeiruty> nothing but problems in Linux
[11:17] <LeeJunFan> qpwoeiruty: yeah, either their drivers only work on kernels released 6 months ago, and/or they don't support half the features as well as nvidia.
[11:17] <qpwoeiruty> i have the same issues under Windows with them
[11:18] <LeeJunFan> qpwoeiruty: under windows I use the omega drivers, at least it's a little better control panel.
[11:18] <jindiaz> and hoenstly, when yu lok at the comparisson reviews online, nvidia is constantly blowing ati out of the water on price and performance ratios
[11:18] <jindiaz> like  purely based on functionality, no bias.
[11:18] <qpwoeiruty> Omega has helped, but i still get some random lockups
[11:19] <LeeJunFan> I've already got my eyes on a new sager/clevo with nvidia.
[11:19] <jindiaz> the onlyyyyyyyyyyy thing with nvidia i am finidng is they run quite hot
[11:19] <qpwoeiruty> my new thinkpad has ATI and it took me hours to get X and console framebuffer working
[11:20] <jindiaz> but have quite a high heat threshiold which is ok, but the heat production kind of sux.  im pretty anal about case temperature... so for me it was a semi issue
[11:20] <jindiaz> games have like an automatic jump of 10 degrees off the bat
[11:21] <OdyXydO> Hey guys (& girls)
[11:22] <OdyX> I'm looking for a good KDE (or QT) program to "rip" DVD's (to ogg-xvid-vorbis or better ogg-theora-vorbis).
[11:28] <jindiaz> cool, thanks again eveyone for the input on that stuff.  have a good one all.  cheers.
[11:33] <OdyX> OK. found Thoggen.
[11:33] <OdyX> Seems good.
[11:33] <OdyX> Thanks all.
[11:41] <vge> lets see if the kernel version 11 is the lucky one
[11:46] <_jeff> ey gangsters
[11:46] <_jeff> does anybody use ktorrent?
[11:47] <_jeff> ktorrenters?
[11:48] <Skrot> I used to. Why?
[11:50] <OdyX> I do.
[11:50] <OdyX> _jeff: we do use Ktorrent. What's your problem ?