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xwind_dapper 6 installed without prompting errors and booting from a thinclient seems to be successful as well.02:03
xwind_BUT, i could not login graphically. I could do Ctrl-Alt-F1, however, and login successfully at the console.02:04
xwind_I would like now to run openoffice from a thinclient, what are my next steps?02:05
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xwind_with edubuntu, is it necessary to install a separate set of applications for the thinclient? i mean, i already have openoffice on the server, do i still need to install it via chroot in /opt/ltsp/i386?02:09
xwind_this is my first trial at ltsp.02:09
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bashmhz, are you there ?04:52
mhzbash: yep, i am04:52
mhzbash: Leonardo?04:53
bashsip04:53
bashleiste el mail que te envie ?04:53
mhzjust read it. I'll subscribe myself to it after the National Geographic program I am watching (El Evangelio de Judas)04:54
bashoh, so cool04:55
mhzit is very cool! Church has always said Judas' Gospel is forbidden04:55
mhznow i see why04:55
bashi talk you, the mailman it up, it so. :P04:56
mhzbash: THANK you! we appreciate it very much04:57
mhzmailman rcks04:57
mhzrocks04:57
mhzbash, GCF is your admiror04:59
mhz:D04:59
bashyup04:59
mhzbash: tuesday...what time you are off school?05:01
bash4:00 PM.05:01
bashfor what ?05:02
mhzbash: so, is it possible we meet at the Hotel, at 18:00? (we send you the address) Or maybe, your brother, if you can't?05:03
bashokey05:04
bashi talk to my brother.05:04
mhzplease. The idea is you can get an idea of the place we'll have for the event05:07
mhzbash: ya me inscribi05:14
bashokey05:15
bashmhz, todavia no te veo registrado05:17
mhzsip05:19
mhzque raro... oh, quizas me envio un "confirm" 05:19
mhzduh!05:19
bashsip05:19
bashenvia un confirm.05:19
bashluego se activa el registro.05:20
mhzeso, acabo de leerlo05:20
mhz:D05:20
mhz(es que esta tan bueno este programa!)05:20
mhzlistoco05:21
bashahi sip05:21
bash:D05:21
mhzbash: please remember to send me the capabilities you have (as redlinks), the response times for each of your services, etc., 05:35
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mhzbash: pcollaog@ te da errores?05:48
mhzbash: que te parece el tipo de diapositiva (considerando que es Moin) ?05:49
mhzhttp://mhz.homelinux.org/somework/EmacsCommands?action=SlideShow&n=405:50
bash_como ?05:51
bash_como pcollaog@05:51
bash_?05:51
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mhz_librebash: sorry, my laptop battery run out05:56
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highvoltagemorning.09:03
JaneWmorning highvoltage 09:20
highvoltageJaneW: how's the back?09:21
JaneWhighvoltage: still painful, but not nearly as bad as last week09:21
JaneWthanks09:21
highvoltagei don't have much faith in doctors hey.09:22
highvoltagemost of the time i hear someone having medical problems, the doctors can't figure out what's wrong.09:23
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JaneWwhich is why I normally don;t use them09:23
=== highvoltage neither
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lucasvoI can't build the ltsp chroot on ppc01:33
lucasvoIt fails during config of Xorg01:34
highvoltagelucasvo: on dapper?01:34
lucasvohighvoltage: yup01:34
highvoltagexorg might just be broken in dapper on ppc :/01:35
highvoltagei suggest you hang around for ogra for feedback01:35
lucasvoyeah, I'll try it again now01:35
juliuxhi lucasvo 01:46
juliuxogra, do you knwo this thinclients? http://store.epatec.net/de/product_info.php/cPath/1/products_id/40 01:46
ograjuliux, nope02:07
ogralucasvo, how does it fail ? 02:07
juliuxogra, i only want to if you know this company02:08
juliuxi have ask for testdevices02:08
ograah, cool :)=02:08
ograthe soundcard could make probs, the rest looks fine02:08
juliuxi am searching for companies in german who distribut thinclients02:11
juliuxbut i dislike igle02:11
juliuxigel02:11
ograwhy ? 02:11
juliuxbecause there are many people who ask where they can buy thinclients in germany02:11
juliuxi also wirte an e-mail to disklessworkstations02:12
lucasvoogra: some problem with getting the keyboardlayout from /dev/blahblah02:12
ograi mean why do you dislike igle ?02:12
juliuxogra, because there arent very friendly at cebit, they only want to sell here igel software02:12
lucasvoah, on the second attempt I get this error: W: Failure trying to run: chroot /opt/ltsp/powerpc dpkg --force-depends --instal l var/cache/apt/archives/base-files_3.1.9ubuntu4_powerpc.deb var/cache/apt/archi ves/base-passwd_3.5.11_powerpc.deb02:12
juliuxogra, but not only thinclient02:13
juliuxs02:13
ograah02:13
lucasvojuliux: do you have any thin clients you don't need?02:13
juliuxlucasvo, hm i have three here02:13
lucasvohow much do you want for one of them?02:14
ogralucasvo, that if you rub it from the liveCD ?02:14
ogra*run02:14
lucasvoogra: no, ubuntu 02:14
lucasvoinstall edubuntu-server -> ltsp-build-client02:14
ograubuntu ? 02:14
ograon a powerpc ?02:14
lucasvoogra: yes02:14
lucasvodailybuild from yesterday02:14
ograoh, do you have a new disk ? 02:14
lucasvono02:15
ogratha daily is totally broken02:15
juliuxlucasvo, an i have a lot of wyse 3350 thinclients02:15
juliuxlucasvo, but i dont know who good the wyse is working with linux02:15
ogra*that02:15
lucasvoogra: I updated 02:15
lucasvotoday02:15
lucasvojuliux: hm, I don't need sound, if X is working, I would take it02:17
lucasvojuliux: you said that you have a HP without psu?02:17
ogralucasvo, they are broken sice days and wont instaa the desktop02:17
lucasvoogra: I have a working desktop02:17
juliuxlucasvo, i didnt test the wyse with linux02:18
juliuxlucasvo, i have wyse and fujitsu siemens02:19
juliuxlucasvo, ogra has the compaq thinclients with out a/c adapter and without ram02:19
juliuxlucasvo, but the wyse thinclients have the same a/c adapter as the compaq02:19
lucasvoogra: would you give me the compaq? 02:20
juliuxheh02:21
lucasvojuliux: I know how to build a PSU02:21
lucasvoof course I would pay02:21
ograhmm, i'm just rebuilding one for car usage and one as a digital videorcorder ...02:21
juliuxlucasvo, if you mean you can do that ok02:21
juliuxogra, for car usage?02:21
ogra(i got three)02:21
lucasvoogra: compaq thinclients?02:22
ograyep, i have a neat 80gig 2,5" usb HD ... that has all my music...02:22
juliuxah a very big mp3 player02:22
ograthe compay is a perfertly small system you can put under the seat02:22
lucasvojuliux: you can send me one and I will test it02:22
juliuxlucasvo, i can send you a wyse thinclient02:22
ograi havent got my wyse running yet ...02:23
lucasvoogra: whats the problem?02:23
juliuxlucasvo, that the wyse has no pxe02:23
ograno fitting memoray02:23
juliuxlucasvo, it needs an image to boot02:23
lucasvojuliux: but I have quite a lot to do in school atm, so don't expect any success that fast02:23
ograthtas no problem ... you just follow the etherboot howto ;)02:23
lucasvojuliux: a rom image?02:23
lucasvoogra: can you burn the roms?02:24
ograhttps://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuDocumentation/LTSPEtherbootSetup02:24
juliuxlucasvo, no there is some thing like a flash port02:24
ograat least my wyse has a flashcard slot, you can pot a rom-o-matic image on it02:24
lucasvojuliux: which model is it?02:24
juliuxlucasvo, 3350se02:24
lucasvoogra: what kind of flash card?02:26
lucasvoI'd like to have a S1002:26
ograit has a pcmcia slot, you can put a 10 cf card adapter in there ...02:27
lucasvook02:27
lucasvoogra: how do you make a vcr recorder?02:27
juliuxogra, there is also a flash slot on the mainboard02:27
ograoh, i thought that was in the compaqs02:28
lucasvojuliux: are there any specs available on the internet?02:28
juliuxhm that could be i have no wyse thinclients here02:28
YagisanG'day ogra02:28
ogralucasvo, you build a special chroot that starts mythtv locally on the client 02:28
lucasvocool, so you are actually using mythtv?02:28
ogra(and indeed need a tv card (usb)02:28
ogranot yet02:28
juliuxlucasvo,  i can e-mail you some urls in the next days02:29
ograi'm still building the setup02:29
lucasvoogra: could you document it somewhere I would like to do this as well02:29
juliuxogra, but is this also education?02:29
ograif it works, i'll add an mythv mode to ltsp-build-client ;)02:29
Yagisanogra: did you see my question yesterday re: ltsp + CJK ?02:30
lucasvoogra: cool02:30
ograjuliux, thats private fun and preparation for thick client installations ;)02:30
juliuxogra, hehe02:30
ograYagisan, do you need CJK at the login manager ? 02:30
Yagisanogra: that seems to be the way to get CJK to work on dapper02:31
Yagisanogra: it no longer works for me with an english UTF-8 locale02:31
lucasvoogra: maybe one should make a mediaubuntu02:31
lucasvo:)02:31
Yagisanlucasvo: isn't that multiverse ;)02:32
juliuxogra, if you know somebody who want to come to linuxtag , i have 57 onedaytickets for the *ubuntu community02:32
ogralucasvo, google for ubuntu studio ;)02:32
ograheh, not really, but if someone asks me i'll point him to you 02:32
juliuxogra, i have to say everybody that i have the tickets, i dont know what i should do with so much tickets02:33
ograyep02:33
juliuxbecause staff tickets are extra02:33
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lucasvoogra: how do you rightclick on your ibook?02:35
ograf1202:35
lucasvoI hate it02:35
lucasvocan't one set it somewhere?02:36
ograits fine as long as you dont change to other laptops :)02:36
lucasvoI think fn+click would be much better02:36
ograi started to occasionally hit f12 on my amd64 :)02:36
lucasvolol02:36
lucasvoanybody know if there is a fuse for sftp?02:37
ograthe other way around that sentence makes sense ;)02:38
ograi think there is something in the works ...02:39
lucasvoyes02:39
lucasvoin the works, I want something stable! ;)02:39
ograheh02:39
ograits still very young ...02:39
ogra(write something or wait ;) )02:40
lucasvoapt-get install sshfs02:41
ograhmm, if my current patch works, we wont have to edit the dhcpd.conf anymore on new installs02:41
ograand the progressbar will actually show the ltsp install in the installer ...02:41
lucasvoIs there any document about Edubuntu for Students?02:44
ogra??02:44
lucasvoI mean a document in the wiki about what students need their pc for. and what should be implemented into edubuntu02:45
lucasvoeducation on an academic degree02:45
ogranope, i dont think so02:45
lucasvois there any calculator for solving equations for linux?02:45
lucasvoor does Texas Instruments have still the monopole?02:46
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lucasvoogra: seems to work no, the chroot02:55
ograintresting03:01
ograwhat did you do ?03:01
lucasvo*now03:03
lucasvonothing much03:03
lucasvowhen I first tried, I was on tty2 03:03
lucasvonow I am in gnome terminal03:03
lucasvoogra: btw, what do you use the Apple-Button for?03:04
ograwhich ones ?03:07
ograthe one left and right of the spacebar ? 03:07
ograi use the default, i think alt-gr03:07
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curtis_Hello, I am a newbie to edubuntu and have a question03:10
ograshoot03:10
curtis_I have completed my install and need to configure squid for dans guardian.  I need root priveledges but was never asked to provide a root password03:11
highvoltage!root03:11
ubotuBy default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.03:11
ograsee http://wiki.edubuntu.org/RootSudo03:11
ograpfft, that bot needs url adjustment :)03:11
highvoltagehehe. yeah.03:11
curtis_i will check it out.  thnx03:12
juliuxthis bot is cool03:12
ograbut still needs url adjustment :P03:13
juliuxput it at cc agenda ;)03:13
ogranah, thats nothing the CC needs to be bothered with, they get enough trivial nonsesne to care about ;)03:13
highvoltagewe had our own bot, but she went off-line when my internet connection at home went down :(03:14
highvoltageit is called 'edubuntugirl'03:14
juliuxhighvoltage, cool03:14
juliuxhighvoltage, do you need a server with a shell account for the bot?03:14
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highvoltagejuliux: if you have one, that would be nice. although i'll also have to dig up the computer that edubuntugirl lives on :)03:19
juliuxhighvoltage, i will create you one at my server03:21
juliuxhighvoltage, login name?03:21
ograkingofthelabs :)03:22
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ograheh03:23
=== JaneW sees highvoltage in a new light
highvoltageJaneW: i suppose we all have a little edubuntugirl inside of us :P03:26
highvoltageJaneW: what's a joie de vivre?03:30
JaneWhighvoltage: hrm...you shouldn't have eaten her03:30
JaneWhighvoltage: joy of life03:30
highvoltageaaaah03:30
highvoltageJaneW: i cut back on wheat based products and i started feeling much happier.03:32
JaneWhighvoltage: aaah03:32
JaneWhighvoltage: you could have a point there03:32
=== JaneW had a less than nutritious diet this w/e
=== highvoltage too
=== highvoltage went to KKNK, it's so overcommercialised
highvoltageyou even had to pay to go to the toilets.03:34
JaneWKKNK?03:35
JaneWhighvoltage: wtf is the stay tuned thing?03:35
juliuxhighvoltage, you have an e-mail03:36
highvoltageJaneW: Klein Karoo Nasionale Kunstefees03:40
highvoltageJaneW: i don't know, something to do with B.O.D. as far as I can deduct.03:40
highvoltagejuliux: thanks03:41
juliuxhighvoltage, no problem03:41
juliuxhighvoltage, it is a dual p3 1ghz with 1.5gb ram, there is enough power 03:41
JaneWhighvoltage: oic, KKNK sounds like fun (apart from paying to go potty) ;P03:41
juliuxhighvoltage, i only need the server for mail and file transfer03:42
highvoltageJaneW: the KKNK itself was not too impressive, but i went with good friends so i had a good time. i also *really* needed to get the break. since being back i fell like a new person. just wish i could do the same for you :(03:43
JaneWhighvoltage: thanks03:44
JaneWhighvoltage: invite me next time :P03:44
JaneWhighvoltage: we went to Clifon 3rd yesterday, which was nice (except for the hurricane force winds)03:44
highvoltageok :)03:45
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jsgotangcohey guys05:41
mhzjsgotangco: hey, mon05:43
jsgotangcomhz: hey dude! what's up?05:43
mhznothing nteresting besides the sad fact I have started sending resumes to "whatever" job ads on the newspaper 05:44
jsgotangcomhz: don't be so worried about it, i used to be in the same position a few months ago but i just pushed on05:45
jsgotangcomhz: it "just" happens05:46
mhzyeah, I am in agood mood to do it.05:46
mhzI gotta take advantage of such mood before I regret it :D05:46
mhzI just hope I dont have to send stuff to McDonalds :D05:47
jsgotangcomhz: always remember you're better off than most people in the world since you are still able to access the net05:48
mhzjsgotangco: hehehe, good point05:49
mhzhowever...05:49
jsgotangcoMcD is still food 05:49
mhzIt seems I'll be offline for about 3 weeks, pretty soon05:49
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jsgotangcosame here, catholic "holidays"05:49
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jsgotangcohighvoltage: Jonathan!06:02
mhzhighvoltage: hey mon. Is it possible you make your agenda available to come here 3 days before the event (held on june 01 and 02) ?06:04
highvoltagejsgotangco: hi there!06:04
highvoltagemhz: probably, let me just check...06:04
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=== mhz crosses fingers
jsgotangcowhat's this about06:05
jsgotangco?06:05
jsgotangcohighvoltage is going to tour chile?06:05
mhzhighvoltage: some biz people and university people would like to meet all international speakers before the event06:05
mhzjsgotangco: it seems so. To the Feria of Eduaction and Free Technology (FLOSS)06:06
jsgotangcoWHOA06:06
highvoltagejsgotangco: seems so, hey :)06:06
jsgotangcoROCKSTAR HIGHVOLTAGE TOUR06:06
mhzjsgotangco: me and other fellas are organizing this ...still reaising funds thoug06:06
highvoltagehehe!06:06
spaceyhow much funds do you need for such a event?06:07
mhzmany people are very interested in the 200 labs of highvoltage's team06:07
=== jsgotangco remembers his crazy south korea talk
highvoltagemhz: yep, i am fine to come earlier06:07
spaceyjsgotangco: what was crazy about it?06:08
spaceycrowd going mad?06:08
mhzspacey: yup. We want to pay for all 6 international speakers accomodation (hotel+tickets+food), the 4 conference rooms, equipement, merchandising, interpreters, logistic, ets., etc06:09
jsgotangcospacey: i got my visa and plane ticket roughly 8 hours before the talk and its a 4 hour flight from Manila to Seoul06:09
spaceyhehe06:09
jsgotangcospacey: left Manila around midnight, arrived Seoul at 6am and gave a talk (no rehearsals at 9am)06:09
spacey:>06:09
spaceysucces?06:09
jsgotangcooh yes06:10
jsgotangcoit snowed the next day heh06:10
spaceyin a mostly ms windows country?06:10
spacey:p06:10
spaceyat least afaik south korea is a really strong market of ms06:10
jsgotangcospacey: its quite peculiar, its not about the OS really, but about MSN IM06:10
mhzspacey: so far, about U$ 4830006:10
spaceymhz: thats quite a lot06:11
mhzindeed, too much06:11
mhzand it is a 2 day event where we'll have install fest, howto fest, talks, stands of people developing FLOSS, 2 labs (both with ubuntu), accessibility facilities06:12
jsgotangcospacey: also ActiveX :/06:12
highvoltageactivex!?06:13
spaceyyour talk was about MSN and activex?06:13
jsgotangcoheh no!06:13
jsgotangcothe mozilla guy was the one who did that (Asa Dotzler)06:14
jsgotangcothe portal market is pretty huge and predominantly ActiveX drive from the start but now its eating them up06:14
mhzactually, Luke Yelavich, and 2 other people will have a talk and a BOF06:14
jsgotangcowhoa a11y06:15
mhzyup06:15
mhzit is a very key issue for Tecnocimiento people06:15
spaceyjsgotangco: so what was your talk about?06:15
mhzwe are very ignorant about a11y06:15
spaceya11y?06:15
spaceyaccesibilility?06:16
mhzyup06:16
jsgotangcospacey: ubuntu as a desktop system06:16
spaceyjsgotangco: ok:)06:16
spaceygrat06:16
spaceygreat06:17
spaceyi'm going shopping06:17
jsgotangcospacey: the slides are at the wiki06:17
spaceyjsgotangco: i will hold a talk about that in two months06:17
jsgotangcoits fun06:17
spaceyi'll be sure to check your slides06:17
spaceybbl06:18
mhzjsgotangco: i still insist we could use mois slides and ODP files06:18
mhzso downloading and starting OOO is not needed if we have thin old hardware06:18
mhzmois =moin06:19
jsgotangcowell06:20
jsgotangcomaybe the edubuntu wiki will be a good test case for such06:20
mhzyup06:21
mhzjsgotangco: the good side of it is that if we can have moin slides, then we can look up into its contents06:21
mhzdownloading each ODP to see if the content is good for specific purposes is a slower process06:22
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jsgotangcohey Burgwork 06:27
mhzhighvoltage: still in charge of Moin sites?06:28
Burgworksalut jsgotangco 06:28
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jsgotangcogotta sleep06:33
jsgotangcogood night06:33
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highvoltagedodgy connection--07:03
juliuxhighvoltage, is the shell account ok?07:14
highvoltagejuliux: yep07:15
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lucasvobtw, where is the new edubuntu site?07:38
highvoltageit's at proto.edubuntu.com, very far from complete still.07:41
lucasvohighvoltage: thanks07:42
lucasvohighvoltage: not found?07:42
lucasvoah, it is .org07:44
lucasvowho is responsible for the design?07:45
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highvoltagesorry, lost my connection again :(08:23
highvoltagelucasvo: what were you saying about the design?08:23
highvoltagelucasvo: i must warn you, it still needs love08:23
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mhzre08:31
mhzhighvoltage: so, still in charge of Moin sites for ubuntu?08:33
highvoltagemhz: nope.08:35
highvoltagemhz: i don't think anyone is really in charge of that, per se08:35
mhzhighvoltage: who is?08:35
mhzoh08:35
mhzwho could then give us a chance to try out Moin SingleSlideShow plugin?08:36
highvoltagemhz: i would have to say it's heno, depending on what you mean by 'in charge'08:36
mhzhighvoltage: oh, I'll email henrik then08:36
mhzthx08:37
highvoltageyeah, henrik would be best able to install that08:38
LaserJockhmm, could we get 1.5.2 with that? ;-)08:40
mhzdont know, LaserJock 08:41
mhzbut maybe08:41
mhzso far, my main interest is SlideShow macro, so slides can be looked up instead of downloading and opening OOO each time ;)08:41
lucasvohighvoltage: be careful that you don't use too much gradiens08:52
highvoltagelucasvo: heh. that's one of my weaknesses08:54
highvoltagelucasvo: is there too many gradients already?08:54
lucasvohighvoltage: I would use no gradient in the box titles08:54
highvoltagelucasvo: i've done those to mimick the look of the title bars in edubuntu though08:55
highvoltagebut i suppose it could be 'cleaned up' a bit.08:55
lucasvobrb08:55
highvoltagei'll keep it in mind though. glad there's someone to keep my gradients under control :)08:56
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Burgworkmhz, I would love the slideshow macro as well09:11
mhzBurgwork: oooh, you read backlogs, uh? :D09:11
lucasvore09:16
Burgworkmhz, I do09:20
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bashmhz, 10:04
mhzhey10:04
bashcomo el reply que sea  a la lista default ?10:08
bashdireccionar el Reply-to a la direccion de la lista ?, mhz ?10:08
mhzsip, bash 10:10
mhzthat10:10
bashokey10:10
mhzpiece of cake?10:10
bashlisto10:10
mhzbash: emails I sent to pancho are "rebotados"10:11
mhzand it's weired beacuase I replied to his own email10:11
bashokey10:11
mhzbash: graciela10:11
bashreply-to: lalal@lalal.lalal.cl10:12
bashmhz, test now, and tell me.10:12
mhzokis..10:12
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bashwhat is wrong.10:12
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bashfunco mhz ?10:15
mhzbash: nope. Reply To me dirige a mi direccion10:16
mhz(pues yo envie un correo de testeo, obvio)10:17
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bashmhz, test again :)10:51
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mhzbash: it works perfect!11:16
aretwelvei have a problem with the live dapper cd flight 611:18
aretwelve(wait for it)   ....   login screen11:18
aretwelvelooks beautiful, plays a neat drum sound ... but no "logged on goodness" joy11:18
aretwelvehello..  is this thing on?11:21
Burgworkaretwelve, tep11:21
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bashmhz, so cool11:23
bash:P11:23
mhzbash: muchas gracias!11:23
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bashoh, in this morning i have a problem with my Dapper :S when starting the root file system.11:28
bash:S11:29
mhzbash: hehehehe, COOL!11:29
mhzno soy el unico!11:29
bashel error fue con un icono de Tango11:29
mhzahhh11:29
bashque se econtraba en mi .theme/tango/metacity11:29
bash:S11:29
mhzthat's nopthing11:29
bashyup11:29
mhzgrrrr11:29
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bashbut dont have starting..11:30
bashi have to start with a live cd11:30
bashto mount the file system and delete the file..11:30
bashand then reboot.. :S11:31
bashthis me happen in the opencomunity :S11:31
bashand now again :S11:31
mhzohh11:31
bashduh..11:32
bashxD11:32
mhzdapper is still "unstable"11:32
mhzand if you are sure it's a bug, then please file a bug11:32
bashwhen happen in the opencomunity i have the version of breezy :D11:33
bashi think so the bug it on reported.11:33
mhzohhh11:34
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bashuhm, intresting XD11:35
bashi goint to review...11:35
bash"En una de esas".. xD11:37
mhzhhehe11:37
mhz"lo mas probable es que quien sabe"11:37
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