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Tm_T | apachelogger: ping | 01:29 |
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Tm_T | ah, unping | 01:29 |
apachelogger | urm | 01:29 |
apachelogger | rm -rf /schedule/#kubuntu-devel/pong | 01:29 |
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Tm_T | =) | 01:30 |
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Riddell | apachelogger: /msg | 01:31 |
apachelogger | sec | 01:31 |
Tm_T | apachelogger: son, why you're not sleeping? | 01:32 |
apachelogger | Tm_T: business mom ;-) | 01:32 |
Tm_T | =) | 01:32 |
Tm_T | businees =) | 01:32 |
apachelogger | hm | 01:34 |
apachelogger | make it busyness ;-) | 01:34 |
Tm_T | the same ;) | 01:35 |
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jdong | can a developer look at 38872, please? I've found the patch from CVS that fixes the problem, so it should be a pretty simple upload | 02:23 |
jdong | thanks in advance | 02:23 |
Tm_T | hmm | 02:24 |
Tm_T | launchpad #38872 | 02:24 |
Tm_T | :o | 02:24 |
Tm_T | bug #38872 | 02:24 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 38872 in gtk-qt-engine gtk2-engines-gtk-qt "scroll arrows missing from some elements" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/38872 | 02:24 |
Tm_T | malone :) | 02:24 |
Tm_T | jdong: I'll check that tomorrow a bit, if you ping me :) | 02:25 |
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Tm_T | jdong: that means remind me in 9 hours from now and I do testing | 02:26 |
Tm_T | thanks | 02:26 |
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Riddell | apachelogger: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2257 | 02:50 |
Riddell | apachelogger: add some man pages and that should be about done | 02:50 |
apachelogger | k, thx | 02:53 |
Riddell | file-in-unusual-dir usr/plugins/geddei/libmir.so hmm, not good | 02:55 |
apachelogger | shouldn't it be in /usr/share/qt3? | 02:56 |
Riddell | can't be share | 02:57 |
Riddell | should be /usr/lib/qt3/plugins maybe | 02:57 |
Riddell | hmm, I can't get amarok to do anything except use excessive amounts of CPU | 03:07 |
Riddell | oh well, bed time | 03:08 |
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Tm_T | =) | 05:19 |
Tm_T | woohoo | 05:19 |
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marseillai | Riddell: amarok1.4beta3 is so cute to me! it's the first time it doesn't use too much memory and it doesn't crash after a complete night of playing music!!! | 06:59 |
Hobbsee | hi marseillai | 07:00 |
marseillai | hi Hobbsee | 07:00 |
marseillai | it's little morning for me | 07:00 |
marseillai | i've to go to school and perhaps pass my exam... | 07:00 |
Hobbsee | it's early morning for riddell, too, so he's probably not awake | 07:00 |
marseillai | i know | 07:02 |
marseillai | but i hope he'll see the highlight | 07:02 |
marseillai | and this is not a reall important things | 07:02 |
Hobbsee | true | 07:02 |
marseillai | just an answer to his last sentences | 07:02 |
marseillai | have a good day .... | 07:03 |
Hobbsee | you too | 07:04 |
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yuriy | hi, i just ran into a bug in amarok (1.4 SVN) and was about to file it for amarok in the kde database, but realized it was actually a problem with gstreamer (i think..). so where do i file? | 07:19 |
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freeflying | koffice-1.5.0 is in debian now | 11:34 |
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theine | Hi, is http://kubuntu.org/packages/koffice-15 the actual release? | 11:36 |
Riddell | theine: it's in testing, please let me know if you manage to install it and if it works | 11:39 |
theine | Riddell: So far, installation went fine | 11:46 |
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Den | Any KDE Kubuntu developers here? | 12:46 |
Den | Anyone here at all? | 12:54 |
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theine | Hi, is there something like a kded event log? | 02:23 |
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Riddell | theine: nope | 02:24 |
Hobbsee | hi Riddell! | 02:25 |
theine | Riddell: that's unfortunate, on my Dapper system kded crashes from time to time and I'd like to know the reason for that | 02:26 |
Riddell | theine: there should be a backtrace | 02:27 |
Riddell | hi Hobbsee | 02:27 |
theine | Riddell: where would i find the backtrace? | 02:28 |
OdyX | Riddell: just installed Amarok 1.4-beta3 - Dynamic mode disappeared ! | 02:29 |
Riddell | theine: drkonqi should pop up | 02:30 |
Riddell | OdyX: what's that? | 02:30 |
theine | Riddell: I doesn't seem to do so | 02:30 |
jjesse | morning :) | 02:30 |
OdyX | Riddell: it's the mode where Amarok does add automagically tracks to your playlist depending on what you heard before. | 02:31 |
jjesse | works liek an ipod shuffle | 02:31 |
OdyX | Riddell: it was BEST feature on Amarok 1.3 ... but I cannot find it ... | 02:32 |
Hobbsee | Riddell: where can people help you out the most? | 02:33 |
Hobbsee | ie, where's most useful to help out? | 02:33 |
OdyX | Riddell: OK. Found it. Is now in playlists... Sorry for flood. | 02:38 |
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Riddell | Hobbsee: help with espresso :) | 02:39 |
Hobbsee | Riddell: what does that involve? | 02:39 |
Hobbsee | killing off data, aka testing? | 02:39 |
hunger_ | What is up with kubuntu.de? | 02:39 |
jj__ | Hi - What's the correct way to wipe KDE off KUbuntu & reinstall it? I did apt-get remove libqt3-mt, apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, but that isn't cvorrect - it leaves me with a logged in desktop with no taskbar, no start menu, & just one window with console, but no top bar to grab & move it - This is on Dapper. - Any idea how to install KDE properly on Ub Dapper? | 02:39 |
Hobbsee | purge .kde if you havent already... | 02:40 |
hunger_ | jj__: I'd use debfoster... but that is more of a question for the user channel. | 02:40 |
Hobbsee | hunger_: there wasnt a response there, really | 02:41 |
jj__ | Hobbsee: Exactly what command to purge .kde? | 02:41 |
jj__ | hunger : What is debfoster? | 02:41 |
Hobbsee | jj__: cd && cd .kde && rm -rf * && cd .. && rmdir .kde | 02:41 |
hunger_ | jj__: .kde is the config dir that all kde apps use. rm -rf ~/.kde will purge it. | 02:41 |
Hobbsee | oh ok, so it does work that way? | 02:42 |
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hunger_ | jj__: debfoster is a non-GUI app that can be used to remove debs incl. all the stuff that is installed as a dependency for that deb. | 02:42 |
Riddell | Hobbsee: being an elite debconf/pykde coder | 02:43 |
hunger_ | jj__: removing kubuntu-desktop with debfoster should kill most of kde... maybe you will need to get rid of some extra kde apps not part of that and some qt apps though. | 02:43 |
Hobbsee | Riddell: haha right | 02:44 |
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jj__ | hunger Hobbsee: Actually, I'd already done "mv .kde kdeoriginal", so there was no .kde there when I did the /etc/init.d/kdm start - Soooo, Any other suggestions? Some part of KDE seems to be missing, or not configured, yes? | 02:44 |
Hobbsee | jj__: happen to have a flight cd on you? | 02:45 |
jj__ | Hobbsee: yes, but I'd like to make sure that this can be done just by installing the correct metapackage - that's the right way it should work, correct?? | 02:45 |
jj__ | Is there a kubuntu developer here who knows _for_sure_ the exsact correct way to apt install the KDE system on top of ubuntu????? If so, please tell me. :) Thanks! | 02:46 |
Riddell | jj__: we have told you. this isn't a user support channel. if you have a problem explain what it is in #kubuntu | 02:47 |
Riddell | Hobbsee: why do you ask? | 02:48 |
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Hobbsee | Riddell: it's just hard to know where to help out. and we're still getting lots of complaints about the current usplash/background/theme - about it being too blue, etc | 02:49 |
Hobbsee | FYI | 02:49 |
Riddell | Hobbsee: kwwii will be working on refining the palette | 02:49 |
Riddell | Hobbsee: triaging bugs is probably the most useful thing for a non-coder to be able to do | 02:49 |
Hobbsee | Riddell: yeah, i know, cool - i just hope it happens in time! | 02:50 |
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jj__ | Riddell: I've done that, and gotten no successful advice there - that's why I've come here - hoping to find someone with the knowledge to anser the question definitively. | 02:50 |
Riddell | Hobbsee: there's loads of bugs assigned to me that deserve a response but I've not been able to | 02:50 |
Hobbsee | hehe yeah | 02:50 |
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Hobbsee | all boring...lol | 03:43 |
Riddell | wish I could do the same | 03:46 |
Hobbsee | hehe | 03:48 |
Hobbsee | you had to respond to it, too! | 03:48 |
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Riddell | if I ever meet an osnews editor I may be tempted to do so | 03:49 |
Hobbsee | hehe | 03:49 |
Riddell | but that's most unquakerly, stop corrupting my innocent mind! | 03:50 |
marseillai_ | Riddell: i don't know if you've try! but amarok beta3 is a real beauty for is lightness!!!!! the first time that i can let him always launch in background! | 03:50 |
marseillai_ | no memory leak at all | 03:50 |
marseillai_ | ..... | 03:50 |
Riddell | marseillai_: currently running at 48% CPU usage for me :( | 03:51 |
Riddell | but that's with the mood plugin thing | 03:51 |
Hobbsee | Riddell: LOL! But why? Bashing people up works wonderfully - ask my supervisor at work on friday night... | 03:51 |
marseillai_ | reading mp3 ? | 03:51 |
Hobbsee | amarok seems to be working nicely here | 03:51 |
marseillai_ | without this mood pluggin and to me it's so so light | 03:51 |
marseillai_ | i really enjoy it | 03:51 |
Hobbsee | argh!!!! | 03:51 |
marseillai_ | mistake ? | 03:52 |
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Hobbsee | and my parents are asleep1 | 03:52 |
marseillai_ | argh!!! didn't see..... krfb crash .... again ...... | 03:52 |
marseillai_ | restart X is more easy | 03:53 |
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Hobbsee | you always get a splash screen, no matter what the splash screen setting is set to... | 03:53 |
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Hobbsee | 9% CPU usage of amarok though - that's pretty good | 03:56 |
marseillai | lol | 03:56 |
marseillai | of course there are kernel and X update ..... | 03:56 |
marseillai | so i didn't have to restart X! :) | 03:56 |
Hobbsee | actually, bashing people up is the most effective when they've had a flushot that day :P | 03:56 |
Hobbsee | marseillai: you're only getting the kernel update now? | 03:57 |
marseillai | Hobbsee: since the moment i tell you i leave i wasn't on my computer | 03:57 |
marseillai | and when i leave this morning there was no update to do | 03:58 |
Hobbsee | oh ok | 03:58 |
Hobbsee | i got that kernel update on the gb mirrors a few days ago... | 03:58 |
marseillai | i'm on french mirror | 03:58 |
Hobbsee | yeah i figured you would be - i was surprised it was so far behind | 03:59 |
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Riddell | oh good, osnews published a nicer second story | 04:22 |
OdyX | Riddell: URL ? | 04:23 |
Riddell | osnews.com | 04:23 |
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Hobbsee | oh good | 04:25 |
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marseillai | i think k3b should include in his dependencies k3b-mp3 ..... | 05:43 |
freeflying-ibook | marseillai: k3b-mp3 in main now ? | 05:44 |
marseillai | in dapper libk3b2-mp3 | 05:44 |
marseillai | in universe it's thrue | 05:44 |
marseillai | ..... | 05:44 |
marseillai | sorry for the mistake | 05:44 |
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Flosoft | hey | 06:46 |
Flosoft | does the release of Amarok work again with Dapper? | 06:46 |
OdyX | I hear my music on 1.4-beta3 | 06:46 |
OdyX | works well. | 06:47 |
Flosoft | :) | 06:47 |
Flosoft | as before the installer didn't work | 06:47 |
Flosoft | eh the install | 06:47 |
Flosoft | why isn't it immediatly in Dapper? | 06:47 |
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OdyX | ? | 06:49 |
OdyX | installer ? | 06:49 |
marseillai | loul | 07:04 |
marseillai | already a new version of amarok! :D | 07:04 |
marseillai | 1.4beta3b | 07:04 |
marseillai | :D | 07:04 |
OdyX | marseillai: update ? | 07:04 |
marseillai | nop | 07:04 |
marseillai | on kde-apps | 07:05 |
OdyX | marseillai: tsss. | 07:05 |
OdyX | OK. | 07:05 |
OdyX | :D | 07:05 |
marseillai | sont vraiment productifs les developpeurs amarok ...... | 07:05 |
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Flosoft | Amarok doesn't work on my PC | 07:11 |
Flosoft | it crashes | 07:11 |
marseillai | Flosoft: try to remove your config file | 07:12 |
Flosoft | where is that one? | 07:12 |
marseillai | ~/.kde/share/config/amarokrc and ~/.kde/share/apps/amarok/ | 07:14 |
marseillai | just make mv | 07:14 |
marseillai | not rm | 07:14 |
Flosoft | worked :) | 07:14 |
Flosoft | thx | 07:14 |
marseillai | ur welcome | 07:14 |
Flosoft | ow ... I deleted it :S | 07:18 |
Flosoft | now it gives me an error with my mysql connection | 07:18 |
Flosoft | reinstall amarok? | 07:18 |
Flosoft | as the config of my mysql is correct | 07:18 |
Flosoft | ow ... works again | 07:19 |
Flosoft | I have to say ... The amaroK devs have again done a great job | 07:19 |
Flosoft | especially it finally gives back the errors from musicbrainz :) | 07:21 |
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Tonio_ | hello all | 07:39 |
Lure | hi Tonio_ | 07:40 |
Tonio_ | fine lure ? | 07:40 |
Tonio_ | Lure: we need to get that knetworkmanager in main :) | 07:40 |
Tonio_ | Lure: no reviews yet...... | 07:41 |
Lure | yep | 07:41 |
Lure | I was just looking on the wiki page - quite some packages waiting in line... | 07:41 |
Lure | It probably takes time to get them reviewed | 07:41 |
Lure | I am not overly concerned - as GNOME has it, we will get it also ...;-) | 07:41 |
Tonio_ | Lure: our three packages are real emergencies | 07:42 |
Tonio_ | kmplayer can wait a bit more but wlassistant and knetworkmanager are really important | 07:42 |
Lure | I am just looking at issues of non-KDE programs with kio, like bug 15451 | 07:43 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 15451 in kubuntu-meta kubuntu-desktop "Kubuntu / KDE SMB network error using openoffice word docs" [Normal,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/15451 | 07:43 |
Lure | is there really nothing we can do to get around this? | 07:43 |
Tonio_ | Lure: ping kde to make them stop using those kios ;) | 07:44 |
Tonio_ | Lure: honnestly, there is nothing we can do on that point.... | 07:44 |
Tonio_ | this is a long debate, and until kde manages that better, except patching every applications we can't do more | 07:45 |
Lure | I have seen some mentioning of using differen % variable in .desktop, but not sure how this would work | 07:45 |
Tonio_ | Lure: hum.......... that works "theorically", but kaffeine doesn't manages that correctly for example | 07:45 |
Tonio_ | kate neither | 07:45 |
Tonio_ | so except that from working in gnome apps is a dream ;) | 07:46 |
Lure | Tonio_: I plan to upload new powersave to your repo today - then I think we are ready for UVFe | 07:47 |
Tonio_ | Lure: nice ;) | 07:48 |
Tonio_ | plz do :) | 07:48 |
Lure | who can request UVFe - just MOTU? | 07:49 |
Lure | and do we need revu first? | 07:49 |
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Tonio_ | Lure: no need to review first if you are a motu, cause updates don't require revuing (if you are a motu of course) | 07:49 |
Tonio_ | just ask for ufve | 07:50 |
Lure | I am not MOTU, nor member - will you do this? | 07:50 |
Lure | ;-) | 07:50 |
Tonio_ | Lure: sure | 07:50 |
Tonio_ | :) | 07:50 |
Tonio_ | Lure: what on earth are you waiting for becoming member ??????? | 07:51 |
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Lure | I need to look into what does it require to get a member (just seen the CoC discussions, but need to read the paperwork ;-)) | 07:52 |
Lure | I do not understand vt n-m guys like cable for wired icon - even KDE version will stick with it - see https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=146224 | 07:53 |
Lure | s/vt/why/ | 07:53 |
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raphink | Lure: I'm going to check your k-d-s contrib | 08:33 |
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Lure | raphink: great - it is not much really (just replaced wallpaper) - it just makes my high-res display nicer ;-) | 08:33 |
raphink | ok | 08:33 |
raphink | Lure: did you test that switching to png doesn't break any settings? | 08:35 |
raphink | did you test with a clean profile for ex? | 08:35 |
Lure | actually not - just by removing the ksplash cache and reboot | 08:35 |
Lure | I can test it with new user now | 08:36 |
raphink | sure | 08:36 |
raphink | please do | 08:36 |
raphink | i don't have such a big screen | 08:36 |
raphink | but I'll test too | 08:36 |
raphink | ;) | 08:36 |
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raphink | lol | 08:38 |
raphink | let me build it | 08:38 |
Lure | raphink: it works - both wallpaper and ATI ;-) | 08:40 |
raphink | cool | 08:40 |
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raphink | ATI? | 08:40 |
raphink | what did you change about this? | 08:40 |
Lure | nothing, but X server has problem on stop or when new one is started - it hang the whole system | 08:40 |
raphink | ah ok | 08:41 |
raphink | what are these bugs you talk about in the mail? | 08:41 |
Lure | this happens 20% with "ati" driver and 100% with fglrx | 08:41 |
raphink | malone 35123 and 35133. | 08:41 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 35123 in xserver-xorg-driver-ati "Garbage on KDM screen" [Normal,Rejected] http://launchpad.net/bugs/35123 | 08:41 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 35133 in kdebase ksplash "Kubuntu splash screen mal-formatted" [Normal,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/35133 | 08:41 |
Lure | these are two reports that will get resolved when you commit | 08:41 |
Lure | first one is just wrongly reported on ati... | 08:42 |
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raphink | so changing the background fixes both these bugs? | 08:42 |
raphink | the first bug was rejected though Lure | 08:43 |
Lure | raphink: yes it fixes both | 08:48 |
raphink | then you shoudl mention it in the changelog for the package | 08:48 |
Lure | true, rejected one was for wrong package (ati) | 08:48 |
raphink | at the end of the entre | 08:48 |
raphink | entry | 08:49 |
raphink | just add (Closes: Malone #xxxxx and #xxxx) | 08:49 |
Lure | actually I have first done the package then I recalled that there were bugs opened and was searching for some time to find it.... | 08:49 |
Lure | but yes, we should add it - can you do it before upload? | 08:49 |
raphink | sure | 08:50 |
Lure | I still do not get this change log thing completely | 08:51 |
raphink | hehe it's ok | 08:51 |
Lure | for example: if I take debian poversave package and merge it with ubuntu changes, should I use debian change log, or just ubuntu one? | 08:51 |
Lure | I am just doing 0.12.7 -> 0.12.11 upgrade, but I am not sure what is correct | 08:52 |
Lure | and then I heard that changelog should only be one per upload, which makes it even harder... | 08:52 |
raphink | I'll test the package Lure | 08:52 |
raphink | I'll brb | 08:52 |
raphink | Lure: I'll test the package after I dinner | 08:56 |
raphink | later | 08:56 |
Lure | raphink: ok | 08:59 |
Riddell | Mez: poke | 09:01 |
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yuriy | Riddell: i see the kio issue with non-kde apps was brought up above again. I understand the real fix is needed on the KDE side, but what about the thing with changing the /%f in the .desktop files for non-kde apps? That's something you can do that'd solve several bugs, what is the issue with doing that? | 09:40 |
yuriy | oops that's not underline | 09:41 |
yuriy | ugh | 09:41 |
yuriy | \ | 09:41 |
yuriy | sorry but i think you can guess what i was trying to type | 09:41 |
Riddell | yuriy: it might work if we add X-KDE-Protocols= to the .desktop files to limit the protocols that KDE will pass it | 09:48 |
yuriy | ahh amarok-gstreamer is finally included with beta3, great, thank you! | 09:48 |
Riddell | yuriy: the developers may well remove it from the final release | 09:49 |
yuriy | Riddell: I don't know much/anything about it, but why NOT do the X-KDE-Protocols= thing? does it break something else? | 09:52 |
Riddell | yuriy: I just havn't had time to try it yet, please do test it | 09:53 |
Riddell | you might need to google to find the syntax and if it really exists | 09:53 |
yuriy | Riddell: ok, but where are these .desktop files located? | 09:54 |
Riddell | yuriy: /usr/share/applications{,/kde} | 09:55 |
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kmon | kubuntu.de is down, except for the infamous message... :( | 10:25 |
kmon | it's a shame the issue is not yet solved | 10:25 |
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apachelo1ger | kmon: do we know what? | 10:30 |
apachelo1ger | amu said he will take it down for one week anyway afaik | 10:31 |
kmon | it has had bad press, in osnews, distrowatch... | 10:35 |
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kmon | it's a shame because it hurts kubuntu reputation | 10:36 |
kmon | that's all I'm saying | 10:36 |
kmon | at least that's my 2 | 10:36 |
Riddell | kmon: it has been solved | 10:38 |
raphink | Lure: uploading k-d-s | 10:38 |
kmon | then I don't understand why their website is down and the message sent to the lists is up | 10:39 |
kmon | anyway,... glad to hear that Riddell | 10:39 |
kmon | Kubuntu is the best disto ;) | 10:40 |
raphink | hehe | 10:40 |
robotgeek | Docs ready for translation :) | 10:41 |
raphink | robotgeek: great | 10:41 |
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robotgeek | heh, i can't translate unfortunately | 10:42 |
raphink | heh | 10:42 |
robotgeek | maybe dapper + 6 or so | 10:42 |
Riddell | kmon: where on distrowatch? | 10:44 |
kmon | in the weekly news | 10:44 |
kmon | Riddell: http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=current#1 | 10:45 |
robotgeek | <sigh> | 10:46 |
Riddell | ye gods | 10:46 |
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marseillai | anyone here use krfb on dapper with kubuntu 3.5.2 ? | 11:05 |
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Lure | raphink: thanks for k-d-s upload | 11:29 |
raphink | you're welcome | 11:30 |
Lure | raphink: it looks like latest powersave does not build on ppc: http://forge.novell.com/pipermail/powersave-users/2006-April/000060.html | 11:33 |
raphink | yes I saw your message | 11:33 |
raphink | I'll have ae look at it later | 11:33 |
Lure | you should probably wait another release | 11:33 |
kmon | (current development version) +1 is always the best distro ;) | 11:44 |
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kmon | amarok1.4 beta3 shows a splash image, even if it's not selected in the preferences. Known bug? | 11:59 |
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Riddell | kmon: yes, it's been reported | 12:01 |
Riddell | the amarok people say it's a kubuntu bug, no idea why that would be | 12:01 |
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