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blindmoseshey, where can i download breezy packages from?12:04
_jeffodyx: it always has trouble tracking torrents for me12:05
OdyX_jeff:  how many do you have ?12:05
_jeffodyx: all kinds of silly problems that azureus doesnt have12:05
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_jeffi had 212:06
OdyX_jeff: what kind of torrents ?12:06
OdyXLinux iso's ?12:06
ryanakcahow do you find you what package provides what files?12:06
OdyXhave you tried with other ones ?12:06
OdyXryanakca: install apt-files..12:06
OdyX(-s ?)12:06
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ryanakcalike say I'm looking for   filesomething.so       , how would I know what package provides it...12:07
ryanakcaOdyX: kk12:07
_jeffodyx: no, im dling common files like episodes of 24 and stuff12:07
_jeffodyx: i know all about torrents and things12:07
ryanakcaOdyX: hmmm... there is no "apt-files" in the repositories...12:08
OdyX_jeff: hum... OK... what about other clients ?12:08
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ryanakcaOdyX: oops... wrong channel.... I thought this was the dapper chan12:08
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OdyXryanakca: apt-file (without s)12:08
OdyXryanakca: no worry, not a lot of people indeed...12:08
OdyXryanakca: what is the dapper chan ?12:09
ryanakcabash: apt-file: command not found12:09
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ryanakcaOdyX: #ubuntu+112:09
OdyXryanakca: K ?12:09
ryanakcaOdyX: ???? what? "K?"12:10
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OdyXryanakca: K for KDE, for Kubuntu.. so I was trying to express shortly if there was a Dapper channel for Kubuntu...12:10
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ryanakcaOdyX: no... kubuntu, xubuntu and ubuntu are in #ubuntu+112:11
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OdyXryanakca: OK12:11
ryanakcaOdyX: you using dapper?12:12
OdyXryanakca: I do.12:13
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BambinoExcuse me, i have a few questions. First is, how do I make it so that my computer and the trash bin and home folder is displayed at my desktop?12:18
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bobbydBambino: you might want to ask in #kde12:21
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Bambinobobbyd: So what is this channel for?12:23
metalheddBambino: right click on the desktop -> Create new -> link to location12:23
Bambinometalhedd: Ok thanks12:24
metalheddtrash://  will link to the trash.   ~ will link to your home dir.12:24
metalheddthere is no "my computer" per se in linux12:24
bobbydBambino: sorry, I was just saying that I didn't know and maybe someone in #kde would :)12:24
Bambinobobbyd: Oh ok wasnt meaning anything bad, just thought i was in the wrong channel so i asked what this was for then (so i ask the right uestions)12:25
Bambinometalhedd: Thank you12:25
metalheddno problem dud12:25
metalhedde12:25
metalhedddude. lol12:25
Bambino;)12:25
bobbydBambino: this is indeed for Kubuntu questions :)12:26
Bambinobobbyd: hehe ok thanks12:27
nxv_has anybody a solution for the screen disortion with ati m9000 and xgl?12:27
Bambinoanybody ever had this problem? I reinstalled kde, i removed it, i installed kubuntu and gives me the same. http://www.romeon.net/error.png  this is when i try to konfigure konsole12:28
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_jeffhey guys12:33
_jeffodyx: i just tried another torrent and i keep getting stalled, then tracker is down12:34
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OdyX_jeff: well.. don't know... sorry12:34
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vladarblaah12:35
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_jeffodyx: s'ok12:35
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BambinoAny idea how to update firefox?12:40
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redphoenixaha, finally! Installed Dapper, no more boot errors, fantastic!12:41
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Crashoveridehow do I install tcl? I tried sudo apt-get tcl...12:41
bobbydBambino: to 1.5? you won't be able to unless you use "dapper" the testing versino of kubuntu12:41
Dannyhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion?highlight=%28firefox%2912:41
bobbydCrashoveride: apt-cache search tcl12:41
Dannybobbyd...yes you can12:42
Crashoveridethanks12:42
DannyBambino: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion?highlight=%28firefox%2912:42
Bambinobobbyd: Oh ok thanks12:42
bobbydDanny: oh, i'm behind the time them :012:42
Dannyok..brb12:42
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BambinoDanny: thank u sir12:43
jguardahi .. one question about mp3 in kubuntu 6.0612:43
Crashoveridebobbyd: that doesnt work, still gives error saying tcl cant be found on system12:43
jguardai'm trying to install libxine-extracodecs in kubuntu live cd 6.06, but Adept doesn't show me that package ... anybody knows how to do it?12:44
Crashoverideeeer I have to go I will try later12:44
Dannyno problem Bambino12:44
jguardahi ... i'm trying to install libxine-extracodecs in kubuntu live cd 6.06, but Adept doesn't show me that package ... anybody knows how to do it?12:47
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_jeffdoes anybody know whats up with the amarok packages on the repo?12:48
_jeffi started having troubles with my xine engine in amarok after the last update12:48
_jeffso i tried to reinstall it but the apt-get says that its broken12:48
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viatorim using the xine engine12:53
viatorseems to work fi12:53
viatorne12:53
viatorin dapper or breezy?12:53
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_jeffbreezy12:59
_jeff=(12:59
_jeffhave you update/upgraded lately?12:59
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BambinoDoes anyone happend to have the flash gz file for firefox? (the macromedia site is down and i need it)01:00
LeeJunFanBambino: give me a second to get it from my remote server.01:01
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BambinoLeeJunFan: thanks01:01
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theripperwhats a good gui ftp client for kde?01:01
SkrotFFSftp://01:01
SkrotFFS=)01:02
_jefflol01:02
therippergui client01:02
_jeffi think he means konqueror01:02
SkrotFFSkonqueror is good01:02
theripperi01:03
theripperill try it01:03
theripperthanks01:03
SkrotFFSBut if you need a ftp client i guess KBear is okay01:03
LeeJunFanBambino: http://home.skycon.net/~junfan/install_flash_player_7_linux.tar.gz01:03
BambinoLeeJunFan: mostly appreciated thank u01:04
LeeJunFanBambino: np, just so happens I still had it on the library system I installed last week.01:04
elijahlofgrentheripper: Konqueror can do split window view like most FTP clients.01:05
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theripperelijahlofgren: does it do it when it goes into ftp ?01:05
_jefflol mostly appreciated01:06
_jeffa little bit not01:06
LeeJunFantheripper: no, you have to change your view settings from the menu.01:07
BambinoLeeJunFan: Lucky me ;)01:07
theripperok ty01:07
LeeJunFantheripper: under "window"01:07
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elijahlofgrentheripper: Right click on the status bar at the bottom of Konqueror and click "Split View Left/Right"01:09
theripperdoes konversation have any other servers in the list besides freenode?01:09
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chavotheripper, hit ctrl-shift-l to split konqueror window01:12
theripperty01:13
chavowell that's for side by side view, ctrl-shift-t for one view on top01:13
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paulvolkI have a question01:20
paulvolkWhen Dapper comes out how do you upgrade? do you have to burn another CD and install it all over again?01:21
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crimsunno, change your sources.list, update && dist-upgrade01:22
crimsunof course you _can_ dist-upgrade from a Dapper iso01:22
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paulvolkok cool01:23
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jguardahi ... i'm trying to install libxine-extracodecs in kubuntu live cd 6.06, but Adept doesn't show me that package ... anybody knows how to do it?01:26
crimsunenable multiverse.01:28
elijahlofgren!universe01:28
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource01:28
SkrotFFS!easysource01:29
ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic01:29
jguardaok, i'll try ..thanks01:30
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`MatirI'm using 5.10, and for some reason, I can't get kwifimanager to let me connect to a wireless network.  It should be possible from the scan list, right?01:37
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tmdx120anyone home?01:42
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tmdx120beefsprocket, you there?01:42
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lengautndx120:Hi01:45
beefsprockettmdx120: yeah01:49
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tmdx120hello.01:49
beefsprocketwhat's up?01:49
_jefftmdx120L: yeah01:49
_jeffhi01:49
tmdx120I finally got the upgrade done. Thanks again01:49
beefsprocketoh good -- how's the system:/media working?01:49
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tmdx120Still havent gotten the system to recognize my IDE drive. I think I did something in the BIOS.01:50
tmdx120I have another unrelated question re: firefox01:50
beefsprocketshoot01:50
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paulvolkcould someone please tell me how to change the bootslpash in Kubuntu?01:51
apokryphos.......to?01:51
apokryphos!bootsplash01:51
ubotuNot a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, apokryphos01:51
tmdx120I use portable firefox for windows. I want to port all of my favorites to my linux box. Any ideas?01:51
beefsprocketpaulvolk: I'd suggest looking at the files kubuntu-bootsplash installs01:51
apokryphos!usplashchange01:51
ubotuTo change the usplash image shown at boot, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so", choose the one that you want, and then do "sudo update-initramfs -u".01:51
beefsprockettmdx120: it's on a usb drive then?01:51
tmdx120yes01:51
beefsprocketI'd say first to backup your /home/~user/.mozilla directory somehwere safe01:52
tmdx120ok01:52
apokryphosalso......01:52
apokryphos!usplash01:52
ubotuusplash is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto01:52
beefsprocketthen copy the profile from the usb key into that directory -- shoul dhave profile.ini 2103djfgaw9857wa0q.whatever gibberish folder and a .dat if i am not mistaken01:53
Mic_no, you don't have to do that much01:53
Mic_just go to manage bookmarks>>import in firefox01:53
beefsprocketdepends on bookmarks or entire profile01:53
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beefsprocketbut yeah, there is a bookmarks.html in your profile directory that you can import directly01:54
beefsprocketin the C:\Documents and Settings\User\Application\ Data/Mozilla/Firefox/Profiles/cpxylpgw.default/ directory -- should be similiar on your useb key01:55
tmdx120does it matter that the one on the usb is for windows OS?01:57
Mic_it's just in /portable firefox directory/profile/bookmarks.html01:57
Mic_no, it doesn't01:57
beefsprocketnope -- not at all01:57
tmdx120ok, Ill give it a shot!01:59
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yuionhi02:01
yuionsome one knows how to change lang in kuuntu?02:01
apokryphosyuion: K menu > System > Adept (Package Manager)02:02
apokryphosAdept is like Ubuntu's Synaptic02:02
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Barbelosyuion: Install the correct language packs in adept. For KDE you can configure it in System settings, or kcontrol02:03
Parkotronyuion: What language do you want?02:04
yuionswedish please02:04
apokryphosyuion: install kde-i18n-se02:05
apokryphosso....... sudo apt-get install kde-i18n-se02:05
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yuionapokryphos, thansk god i have you guys02:05
yuionapokryphos, but why its not same root pw in kubuntu?02:05
apokryphosyuion: it's a good idea to learn how to use the graphical package managers though :)02:05
BarbelosI do think (k)ubuntu has the best ever irc-community :D02:06
apokryphosyuion: ubuntu doesn't use root, just use sudo.02:06
SteveireFreenode has the best irc channels02:06
yuionjust log out and the lang will change?02:06
apokryphosI guess so02:07
yuionOk,thanks,brb02:07
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yuionhi02:09
apokryphosdid it work?02:09
yuionapokryphos, the lang change dosent work:(02:09
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apokryphosyuion: ok, as I thought now. Just go to the k menu > systemsettings02:09
Mic_you have to change the "Country/Region and Language" settings02:10
apokryphosfrom there go to Language, and select Swedish :)02:10
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yuionapokryphos, then?02:10
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apokryphosyuion: once it's definitely selected as default and you've hit apply, then logout/in again.02:11
apokryphosthat will definitely work02:11
yuionapokryphos, say what!?02:11
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yuionapokryphos, have i missed something or you say hwo to change the lang in systemsettings?02:12
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apokryphosyuion: if you selected it, then just hit "Apply" at the bottom.02:12
apokryphosyup, I did02:12
yuionapokryphos, selected what:P?02:12
apokryphosyuion: Swedish02:12
yuionapokryphos, ye but where?02:12
apokryphosyou went over to "Country/Region and Language" as Mic_ said, right?02:12
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yuionaha sorry,totally missed what the other gy wrote,sorry02:13
apokryphosnp02:14
BambinoHi i need 2 files, since the kde upgrade to 3.5.2 in breezy lacks those two files. they are named kcm_konsole.la and kcm_konsole.so could someone please put them for me to download?02:15
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yuionapokryphos, okey,WTF..i choose swedsh but suomi comes up:S02:16
apokryphosare you sure you did?02:16
yuionapokryphos, of course,the swedish flags are there and everything02:16
apokryphoshmm :/02:17
apokryphosyuion: perhaps try asking in #kubuntu-se ?02:17
apokryphossounds very odd02:17
ParkotronI thought SV was Swedish, not SE?02:18
apokryphosarggh02:18
apokryphosthat would explain a lot :)02:18
yuionapokryphos, haha woot?02:18
apokryphossilly me02:18
yuionapokryphos, any sugation?02:19
apokryphosyuion: sudo apt-get remove kde-i18n-se && sudo apt-get install kde-i18n-sv02:19
yuionapokryphos, thansk02:19
apokryphossorry about that02:19
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yuionapokryphos, np02:20
yuionapokryphos, but you know how to get SE:P?02:20
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apokryphosyuion: sorry?02:21
yuionapokryphos, or i mean swedish:P02:21
apokryphosyuion: type that command, then select swedish in system settings, and relogin for the last time :P02:21
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yuionapokryphos, no my bad,you right:P02:21
yuionkolla det fungerar(swdish=looks its works) thanks you agian:P02:22
apokryphos=)02:22
yuionapokryphos, why should i use kde:P?02:23
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apokryphosit's so much better :D02:24
paulvolkcould anyone tell me where I could find the Firefox folder to put the JRE plugin in?02:24
yuionapokryphos, haod to know why:Pfun/goha yes i belive you,just02:24
apokryphosyuion: it's far more customizable, has better applications, and I find it a lot more powerful.02:25
yuionapokryphos, just fun/good to know why02:25
apokryphospaulvolk: no need to do that, just install the java debs as provided.02:25
apokryphospaulvolk: /msg ubotu java02:25
apokryphosyuion: sure02:25
paulvolkoh ok02:25
yuionapokryphos, okey,it you think that i think that to:D02:25
yuionapokryphos, have any msn?02:26
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apokryphosyuion: yeah, but I really only use IRC for GNU/Linux related things.02:26
elknof1hey02:27
yuionapokryphos, aha okey,sorry..hope i allways find you here then!:D02:27
apokryphosthere are many other helpful users in these channel, many who are far more knowledgable than me, too :)02:27
elknof1does somebody knows about a link with a HOWTO for installing easy ubuntu02:28
elknof1in kubuntu breezy badger02:28
elknof15.1002:28
apokryphos!easyubuntu02:28
ubotueasyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu02:28
elknof1ey men thanks02:28
yuionapokryphos, have you some goos tip on programs to a newb user??02:29
yuionapokryphos, good*02:29
sledgeDoes there exist a quake3:arena package for kubuntu/debian?02:30
apokryphosyuion: depends on what you're looking to do02:30
apokryphosyuion: if you like music, then look into amaroK.02:30
yuionapokryphos, nothing speciell actully..just looking around and try tp find some good things!02:31
yuionapokryphos, oo you can do me a huge favor..help me to install wine:P02:32
apokryphosyuion: nice little apps are: amarok (for music), filelight (for displaying hard-disk usage), konversation (IRC client), Kopete (instant messenger client; msn etc).02:33
apokryphosyuion: not really :P, but you could follow this guide:02:33
apokryphos!wine02:33
elknof1i just have a trouble with the last line of commands     gksudo ./easyubuntu.py02:33
yuionapokryphos, what guide:P?02:33
elknof1bash: gksudo: command not found02:33
elknof1thats the error it brings me back02:33
apokryphos!+wine02:33
ubotuWine is a compatibility layer used by linux to let it run the majority of windows programs. To get wine installed, download http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/wine/wine_0.9.10-winehq1-2_i386.deb then follow this guide to installing it http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=149585 More info at http://www.winehq.com or for support go to #winehq02:33
apokryphosthere :)02:33
apokryphoselknof1: use kdesu if you're on kubuntu, not gksudo.02:34
elknof1yeah... thanks...  sorry men but i have only 3 days with mi kubuntu running, so those are new tips for me02:34
elknof1thanks men02:34
yuionubotu, damn,lazy iam,i hope its jsut was a simple command:P..yeye jsut start to read:D02:35
ubotuI'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, yuion02:35
viatorthats a bot yuion02:36
Parkotronyuion: ubotu is a robot used to answer commonly asked questions. He's not much good for conversation.02:36
yuionapokryphos, haha i thougt that:P02:36
yuionapo btw what i use "katapult" to?02:38
elknof1deamn!!!    i just can't install easy ubuntuuu!!  lol   easy ubuntu is not easy for me lol02:38
yuionapokryphos, what use easyubuntu to?02:39
apokryphoscheck out their site -- good information there02:39
apokryphos!easyubuntu02:39
ubotueasyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu02:39
lwizardlthe easyubuntu program errors for me02:40
yuionapokryphos, sorry,im now lazy just newb..you have any direct thing i can write in xterm?02:40
apokryphoslwizardl: /j #easyubuntu   -- try in there.02:40
apokryphosyuion: for?02:40
yuionapokryphos, easyubuntu02:40
yuionapokryphos, or i got everything wrong about that:P02:41
apokryphosyuion: nope, but their site is very user-friendly, I assure you. :)02:41
yuionapokryphos,  okey,i check it out02:41
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yuionapokryphos, how i look my hdd storage,free mb and all that?02:43
patientfoxhey quick question: im typically a gentoo man... but am considering kubuntu as a "less hassle" option for my gaming box, which the main caveat being that it is 2x 7800GT's in SLI mode... will kubuntu support this out of the box or do i have to do some h4x0ring?02:43
apokryphosyuion: filelight is very good for that :)02:43
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apokryphosjust install it and then fire it up =)02:43
patientfoxi could read some walkthroughs and just do it in gentoo, but im curious if there's a less mangled option...02:43
apokryphosyuion: for a quick solution though, on the command line just df -h02:44
patientfoxalso, is the latest kubuntu CD using 3.5 or do i have to update after install or what?02:44
patientfoxkde 3.5, that is...02:44
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bimberipatientfox: it doesn't but you can get it ...02:45
bimberi!kde3.502:45
ubotuTo upgrade to to the latest KDE3.5, Follow the instructions at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-352.php (add the deb... line to your sources.list). Then "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".02:45
apokryphosit won't be out-of-the-box support02:45
apokryphoskde 3.5 is an easy 2 commands02:45
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patientfoxok that issue is sorted... i just need to deal with the whole SLI issue...02:45
apokryphospatientfox: though, suse's yast is quite good with such things, I'd venture a guess that it would.02:46
yuionokey,thanks for the help everybody..time to go to bed..night!02:47
apokryphos'night02:47
patientfoxwell lets hope this sucker will support something out of the box... otherwise im in trouble...02:48
patientfoxthere is a distro out there tailored to high end boxen... cant remember the name tho..02:48
yuionapokryphos, you can change status or something in irc:P?02:48
apokryphosas in "away status"? Sure.02:49
apokryphosjust type /away somemessage02:49
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yuionapokryphos, so?:P,and when i want to wake agian?02:50
apokryphosyuion: /back02:50
theripperdoes anyone know if i can set a minimum text size in the konqueror somewhere?02:50
koshyes02:51
yuionapokryphos, haha everything sp easy,thanks for today and night02:51
apokryphostheripper: yup, go to system settings > appearance and themes > fonts :P02:51
koshtheripper: settings -> configure konqueror -> fonts -> and min is on that page02:52
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koshapokryphos: that is not what he asked02:52
koshapokryphos: he wanted min font size which is not the same as default chosen font02:52
apokryphosok, indeed02:54
elknof1is there a way to have firefox-mozilla as my default web browser instead konqueror in kubuntu??02:54
koshyes02:54
koshkcontrol -> kde components -> Web Browser -> and set it to firefox02:55
theripperok , ive raised all the font sizes in the system setting menu but the konqueror fonts are the same02:55
koshtheripper: I told you which one to go to and that the system one is wrong02:56
theripperkosh i tried yours too , i did that first but this doesnt work either02:56
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elknof1apokryphos, men i still cant install easyubuntu i've downloaded the 2.3.1 ver, but i have no idea how to install it, and i tryed with the lines given in the easyubuntu site, but it doesnt work02:57
koshthe ones I showed you do work on all html that konqueorr has to render, what font exactly is too small and where is it?02:57
theripperkosh: by bad , wrong window , you are right , thank you02:57
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paulvolkhow do I setup the root account?02:58
Bambinohelp lpease, when i go to konsole and try to konfigure it, i get this error02:58
koshtheripper: cool02:58
koshpaulvolk: don't02:58
paulvolkI need too02:58
koshwhy?02:58
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Bambinousr/lib/kde3/kcm_konsole.so: cannot open shared file: no such file or directory02:58
Bambinodoes anyone know why?02:59
paulvolkI have no idea how to copy files to a place that needs root acces without a root account02:59
koshpaulvolk: use sudo02:59
Parkotron!sudo02:59
ubotuit has been said that sudo is a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.02:59
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paulvolkHow do I copy though?02:59
Parkotronpaulvolk: Are you using the command line or Konqueror?03:00
theripper!sudo03:00
ubotuI heard sudo is a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.03:00
sledgeDoes there exist a quake3:arena package for kubuntu/debian?03:02
elknof1 i still cant install easyubuntu i've downloaded the 2.3.1 ver, but i have no idea how to install it, and i tryed with the lines given in the easyubuntu site, but it doesnt work..  help please03:03
elknof1im a total newbie03:03
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Parkotronelknof1: What is03:07
Parkotronit that you want easyubuntu to do?03:07
elknof1i want to install it03:08
Parkotronelknof1: Sorry, I meant what do you want to do with it once it's installed?03:09
elknof1i heard is easyer to have skype ati drivers and stuff with that03:09
elknof1install drivers of my ati video card03:09
elknof1install skype03:09
elknof1limewire03:09
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elknof1is just that I only have 3 days trying linux, and i choosed Kubuntu 5.10 cause' i read it was easyer than others03:10
crwebi'm having a problem with building my own kernels03:10
crwebafter reboot the new kernel just loops looking for /dev/ttyS0 + 1   forever03:11
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ParkotronPersonally, I'd recommend trying to install those things the "old-fashioned" way as it'd be good experience on installing software in Linux, but I don't use any of those so it could be harder than expected.03:11
Parkotronelknof1: There are, however, alternatives to EasyUbuntu. Automatix comes to mind.03:12
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elknof1thanx let me take a look03:12
paulvolkHow do I move a file to a folder with sudo?03:13
BambinoAnyone here sitting on a 64bit ubuntu? I need 2 files in KDE urgently please03:13
Parkotronpaulvolk: Are you familiar with the Linux command line?03:13
paulvolkYa I have used Suse for years03:13
Parkotronpaulvolk: Oh! Good! That makes this one hundred times easier.03:14
paulvolkjust swtched to Kubuntu cause I had a lot of problems with suse03:14
elknof1Parkotron: is automatix for Kubuntu too??03:14
Parkotronpaulvolk: Just precede the command with sudo. eg "sudo mv file1 file2"03:14
elknof1it only says that is for gnome03:14
paulvolkok thanks03:15
elknof1or it desnt say nothing if it is for kde...03:15
Parkotronpaulvolk: You'll be asked for you're password and all should go as expected.03:15
Parkotronelknof1: I believe both EasyUbuntu and Automatix are aimed at Gnome users, but a lot of the stuff they install would be commond to both desktops.03:16
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elknof1but the commands change from one to other, and i'm at my copy-paste degree of using linux03:18
elknof1but if you know of a page of automatix with a howto for kubuntu would be nice03:19
CheeseBurgerMan!automatix03:19
ubotumethinks automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.03:19
CheeseBurgerManI have no clue why 'echo -e'y\nY\n' is risky, but.... :P03:20
paulvolkok Parkotron I did what you said but it says that the file is not valid03:20
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Parkotronpaulvolk: That seems odd.03:21
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paulvolknvm I got it working now03:22
paulvolkmisspelled it03:22
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Parkotronpaulvolk: You can also launch Konqueror with root priviledges by running "kdesu konqueror", if that's more up your alley.03:23
BarbelosIs there a repository for breezy with a libxine version higher than 1.0.1? I want to build kaffeine 0.8 here, and not worry about breaking any other dependencies03:23
paulvolklol Thanks for telling me that now!!!03:24
paulvolklol03:24
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noiesmohey all running kubuntu daper with xgl xompiz and seems ok just wondering if anyone knows why my xine gui is no good but xine works03:26
Parkotronelknof1: From the looks of the EasyUbuntu installation guide on their website, you should be able to install following those instruction as long as you replace "gksudo" with "kdesu".03:26
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Parkotronnoiesmo: I had similiar problems in my experiments with XGL. I was never able to find a fix.03:29
crwebyay! new xorg-wacom drivers!03:30
crwebfor dapper03:30
Tm_Tnoiesmo: welll03:30
Tm_T!xgl03:30
ubotuXGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/03:30
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noiesmoParkotron, cheers its not a big deal will just right click to get menu options03:30
Tm_Tand I'd say, if you like your system work flawlessly, stay far away from Xgl03:31
apacheloggerTm_T: mom, why are you still awake?03:31
_robertcould someone tell me how to install programs that i downloaded from the internet?03:31
Tm_Tapachelogger: ...03:31
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Tm_TI'm not!03:31
noiesmoTm_T, no me loves me eye candy ;)03:31
CheeseBurgerMan_robert: Are they in debs?03:32
Parkotronnoiesmo: If you use KDE and like xine, I'd reccomend Kaffeine with the xine engine.03:32
_robertthey have a tar.gz  extention03:32
Kyralor Codeince03:32
noiesmoParkotron, good thinking dude03:32
CheeseBurgerMan_robert: What program is it?03:32
KyralCodeine even :D03:32
CheeseBurgerManIt may not need to be installed03:32
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Tm_TOR KMPlayer03:32
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_robertit apsfilter-703:33
CheeseBurgerMan_robert: Untar it03:33
KyralCodeine is basically Kaffine but lighter03:33
KyralI like it :D03:33
apacheloggermhhh03:33
crwebif there are any ubuntu xorg developers in here,  THANK YOU for the new wacom package03:33
apacheloggerCodeine03:33
apacheloggerbest player ever03:33
_roberti don't know how to do that03:33
apachelogger...for videos ;-)03:33
KyralNow if only I could get it to use GST03:33
CheeseBurgerMan_robert: Double click on it, Ark should open03:33
ParkotronWhat engine does Codeine use?03:33
KyralXine03:33
apacheloggermuahaha03:33
noiesmoapachelogger, man i must be mushroom never heard of codeine03:33
lwizardlhi03:33
apacheloggergod will sue you for that03:34
apacheloggernoiesmo: maybe ;-)03:34
_robertit opened now what should i do?03:34
CheeseBurgerManExtract it. It's a purple icon03:34
lwizardlhow can i get my mouse to function properly? i have a 5 button mouse (2 buttons for backward or forward page)03:34
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KyralOnly thing about Codeine is that it doesn't integrate into Konversation03:35
Kyralie, via the /media command03:35
KyralSysinfo for 'HyperDream': Linux 2.6.16-beyond running KDE 3.5.2, CPU: AMDAthlonXP2700+ at 2166 MHz (4337 bogomips), , RAM: 933/1011MB, 91 proc's, 1.16h up03:35
_roberti've done that03:35
KyralThen again I'm running ArchLinux on my Desktop :P03:35
Tm_T:)03:36
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Tm_T04:36 Irssi uptime: 116d 7h 23m 39s03:36
KyralLaptop and Server I need reliability, a fire and forget solution03:36
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Kyralfor my Desktop however... :D03:36
CheeseBurgerMan_robert: Have you extracted it?03:37
_robertyes03:37
Tm_Tlet's see if this irssi stay running a whole year03:37
CheeseBurgerManOK, open the folder you extracted it to.03:37
Kyralbut yah, Archlinux is quite nice :D03:38
KyralI can recompile my system in one command if I feel like it (good for a binary based Distro)03:38
_roberti've done that03:38
CheeseBurgerMan_robert: Is there a gear icon?03:39
_robertwhere would i find that at?03:39
CheeseBurgerManIn the folder you extracted the program to.03:39
CheeseBurgerManIt'll say 'executable file' at the bottom of konqueror when you select it03:39
_roberti've gotten to that point03:40
CheeseBurgerManOK, double click on that.03:41
CheeseBurgerManIt should run.03:41
_robertthe only thing i've seen is a list of code03:41
CheeseBurgerManWhat are you trying to run?03:42
_robertnow i'm trying to install flashplayer03:42
CheeseBurgerManAh03:42
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CheeseBurgerManIt should ask if you accept the license agreement03:43
CheeseBurgerManpress yes..03:43
CheeseBurgerManor...type yes ;)03:43
_roberti've seen a few folders and i see a flashplay-installer folder what should i do with that?03:44
Barbelos_robert: There is probably an installer script, called something ending in either .sh or .bin03:44
Barbelos_robert: That script has to be executable for you to run it, or you'll only open it in a texteditor03:45
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CheeseBurgerMan_robert: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?action=show&redirect=Flash#head-f375cba46014e861cd5ec7643bd7c4ef05acff2b03:45
Barbelos_robert: The easiest way to install flash, java etc. on 5.10/breezy is something called automatix, google for it and download that instead. Should be instructions somewhere on the ubuntu forums03:45
noiesmo_robert, if you've installed flashplayer in firefox then you can dele the flashplay-install its just temp03:45
CheeseBurgerMan!automatix03:46
ubotufrom memory, automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.03:46
Barbelos_robert: or do what CheeseBurgerMan says, click that link03:46
CheeseBurgerManYeah, saves me from trying to explain it when I don't have it in front of me. ;)03:46
_robertthank you03:47
_robertbrb03:47
Barbelosubotu: Well, it does things like add things to your sources.list and download gpg-keys. Some might consider that unsafe.03:47
ubotuBarbelos: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about03:47
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CheeseBurgerManlol03:48
Barbelosubotu: _robert is trying to install flash-plugin :D03:48
ubotuokay, Barbelos03:48
LeeJunFanBarbelos: ubotu is a bot03:48
CheeseBurgerManubotu is a bot. :P03:48
ubotuSome people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, CheeseBurgerMan03:48
CheeseBurgerManlol03:48
LeeJunFan!flash03:48
ubotuInstallation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats03:48
BarbelosLeeJunFan: Wow, it fooled me :p03:49
CheeseBurgerManhehe, wish I could say I was involved in programming it. ;)03:49
BarbelosShould have seen the "!thingy" and understood what it was03:49
regeyaI can tell I haven't used windows for a long while.  just spent the better part of an afternoon helping my mom set up 2 computers to connect to each other via ad-hoc wireless networking and on one, share a dialup (hey, they can't get dsl or cable) connection.  at home I set up 2 machines to share a dialup connection and connect via ethernet in about 10 minutes.03:51
regeyaand that was on this box.03:51
CheeseBurgerManregeya: Yeah, I typed 'su' into a command prompt03:52
CheeseBurgerManand froze windows. :|03:52
regeya1. install dnsmasq and ipmasq.   2. set up dnsmasq.  3. set up the ethernet settings on both  5. run pppconfig 6. edit  /etc/network/interfaces 7. restart networking 8. done.03:53
lwizardlwhats a good program to display a slideshow like windows image viewer03:53
BarbelosCheeseBurgerMan: I keep trying to do XWindows cut n'paste. Sometimes several times and getting increasingly annoyed before I realise03:53
lwizardl?03:53
regeyaCheeseBurgerMan: the sad thing is, it would have been easy had I realized that the vendor-provided software on both windows boxes was creating this big FSU situation03:53
Barbeloslwizardl: Gwenview has a nice slideshow-feature03:53
CheeseBurgerManregeya: Yeah, it pays to look.03:53
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_rootola03:54
regeyaCheeseBurgerMan: heh, not bashing windows, but I suppose I"m bashing the culture around it...this business of absolutely, positively convincing the end-user that nothign will work unless you use the crappy software they provide.03:55
regeyaI felt oddly at home when I realized that if I just used the os-provided tools and drivers I'd be fine. :-}  still, I love the fact that on my home box I don't have to resort to running a wizard to get dns caching and ip masquerading running.03:55
regeyaor at least that there are well-documented ways...I'm sure it's possible without the stupid connection wizard.03:56
CheeseBurgerManregeya: True, but it's easier with wizards. ;)03:56
regeya</windows>03:56
CheeseBurgerManespecially for the non-techincally inclined03:56
regeya<away reason="shower" />03:56
regeyaCheeseBurgerMan: did you seriously lock up a windows box by typing 'su'?03:57
regeyahow the devil...03:57
regeyaoh wait...nevermind...shower time.03:58
CheeseBurgerManyeah, it was stupid.03:58
CheeseBurgerManhaven't duplicated it yet though03:58
CheeseBurgerManlater however03:58
Barbelosmake[1] : *** No rule to make target `distclean'.  Stop.03:58
Barbelos:(03:58
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regeyaBarbelos: sounds like the makefile doesn't have a 'distclean' rule!  bummer.03:59
Barbelosregeya: Teaches me to try to build an app called pornview03:59
regeyaBarbelos: heh, can't get the ubuntu package working?  I think it's in universe...lemme check...04:00
Barbelosregeya: It is, but it's not playing well with my installe libxine04:00
regeyaall this after I mark myself away.  I'm such a doofus.04:00
Barbelosregeya: So - apt-build :)04:00
regeyayou installed libxine by hand?  wowsers.04:00
regeyaI keep typing in the password for my login on my work machine.  I think that should tell me something...04:01
Barbelosregeya: No problem if you have all the dependencies from plf and that cyber-whatsitsname04:01
Steilare there going to be any kopete 0.12 beta packages in the kubuntu repos?04:03
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BarbelosSteil: I know it's not built for dapper, but I'd be surprised if no third-party packager didn't make them04:05
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KyralI'm glad Kerry is in general use now...04:10
Kyralbut Beagle still goes on a RAM usage spree whenever I fire up the Daemon...04:11
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BarbelosKyral: Beagle always seems to take up way too many resources here. A shame though. I especially like the way it indexes browsing and IM as well as files04:14
Kyraloyah04:14
KyralYou'd think they would make it index SLOWLY04:14
BarbelosKerry's really a much nicer gui than the ones for gnome I think04:14
Kyralyah04:15
Kyralbut still, as soon as I start it my RAM usage goes through the roof04:15
KyralI mean I can see for the initial building of the Index...04:15
Kyralbut afterward...it should just act like a daemon and update the index when it notices a change04:17
BarbelosKyral: I just had to stop using it here * sigh *04:18
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theripperanyone using ati x800 card???04:21
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jonathan_barb....did you ever get dapper installed :)04:28
jonathan_just wondered if you had heard of updates on the unbooting cd's04:30
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lwizardlanyone get java 1.4 installed and working ?05:40
lwizardli can't seem to get it to work and 1.5 isn't compatible with the java ap05:41
lwizardl*app05:41
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frank23 !java06:03
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs06:03
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Wizz_KiddConnection to CUPS server failed. Check that the CUPS server is correctly installed and running. Error: the IPP request failed for an unknown reason.06:09
Wizz_Kiddwtf?06:09
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Tallia1Kubuntuhello?06:29
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Tallia1Kubuntui need a fast help06:29
Tallia1Kubuntudo you know where i can find a list of DNS server IP?06:29
Tallia1Kubuntuthe local network have some problems and their local DNS is not working06:30
Wizz_Kiddheheheheheh06:30
Tallia1Kubuntusome windows computer particularly have problems06:30
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qpwoeirutyTallia1 - a list of what dns servers?06:34
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DenHi - Since doing an apt upgrade yesterday on my Dapper system, the login to KDE returns immediately to the login screen - is this issue known to the KDE people?07:00
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DenHi - Since doing an apt upgrade yesterday on my Dapper system, the login to KDE returns immediately to the login screen - is this issue known??07:02
DenAnyone here?07:03
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LeeJunFanDen: working on mine.07:03
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LeeJunFanDen: do you get the splash screen at all?07:04
DenLeeJunFan: U are running Dapper with a recent (yesterday or today) apt update?07:04
LeeJunFanDen: today07:04
Hobbseeworking here too07:04
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dell500anyone know an easy backup solution for 184gb on dvds?07:04
DenLeeJunFan: Yes, I get the splash, I enter my pw, it acts like it's logging in, then goes back to the login screen.07:05
Hobbseedell500: second hard drive?07:05
LeeJunFanto he11 with DVD's, get an external HD :)07:05
dell500i've got a raid array of 2 120satas, which i need to disassemble to put linux on 1 sata, and backup on the second, and i need to backup my stuff anyway07:05
naliothDen: watch your private messages07:05
dell500true dat lol07:05
naliothubotu: tell Den about xhangs07:05
DenLeeJunFan: It had a failure in Adept doing an update - the ??kubuntu-docs package wouldn't install, which caused it to not install a new version of desktop07:05
dell500how long would that take to transfer? like a day on usb2?07:06
Hobbseedell500: got no idea07:06
LeeJunFanDen: I had that too but it shouldn't interfere with anything else.07:06
LeeJunFanDen: try apt-get -f install to get missing deps.07:06
LeeJunFanDen: as of right now that kubuntu-docs thing seems fixed too.07:07
dell500i'll just wait till i can get an external07:07
Dennalioth: What does this mean? " rm .{X,ICE}authority"  ?  Specifically, the ".{X,ICE}authority" ?07:08
LeeJunFandell500: time or money?07:08
LeeJunFanDen: it means to rm .Xauthority and .ICEauthority07:08
LeeJunFanthe {X,ICE} matches either X or ICE.07:09
DenLeeJunFan: Actually, I did an apt-get update,  apt-get dist-upgrade today, and it didn't complain again, just updated some stuff, but still failed to log in.07:09
LeeJunFanDen: perhaps add a new user and login as that user to see if tis' system wide problem or just that user.07:10
naliothDen: it is a terminal command (console)07:10
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Borg^Queenhi has anyone here used the kopete /kaddressbook feature that allows you to start a chat from within kaddressbook?07:10
DenWill someone please give me info or a url to what the problem with X & ICE authority is/was?07:10
Borg^QueenI'm having trouble getting it to work on 3.5.207:10
Borg^QueenDen what's the problem?07:11
LeeJunFanDen: also maybe /var/log/kdm.log would have clues, but I think since you are getting past kdm to splash screen probably not.07:11
naliothDen: it means to open a failsafe session and type "rm .ICEauthority " and then "rm .Xauthority"07:11
Dennalioth: thx07:11
HobbseeDen: does it give you a dcop error at all?07:11
DenHobbsee: I don't know what that is.  It doesn't give any error msg to the screen - it just goes back to the login screen.07:12
Hobbseeah ok07:12
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Hobbseeif that doesnt work, cd .kde && rm *-(user)07:12
Hobbseeas well, and see if that fixes it07:13
Dennalioth: Is the X,ICEa... a new or old/longstanding problem?07:13
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naliothDen: it can be quite common07:19
Dennalioth: What causes it?07:19
naliothDen: not doing the following causes it07:19
nalioth!kdesu07:19
ubotuUse kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions and the config files.   If it is not working, you may need to run "sudo adept-updater"07:19
nalioth!gksudo07:19
ubotuUse gksudo to run gtk applications with root privileges. Using sudo to start gtk apps can scramble your user account permissions.07:19
Dennalioth: Ah!  I recall doing a "sux" then "konqueror &" sometime before that login problem began.07:22
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Dennalioth: But, I often do that & never had this problem befgore.07:23
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Dennalioth: regarding ubotu saying "if it isn't working you may deen to run sudo adept-updater" - what doesn the "it" refer to, and do you recomment I run sudo adept-updater now to try to fix this?07:25
DenAnyone - is there a GUI way to run some application (say konqueror) as root, ie, by just clicking something, rather than having to go to a command shell & typing "kdesu progname"?07:29
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DenHow do I add a new user in console mode that will be allowed to log into the KDE desktop?  Just "adduser"?07:33
DenHas this channel died?  I'm not gettng any response here - Will someone please msg me if you can read this?07:34
|DS|Svenstaroadduser will do.07:35
Den|DS|Svenstaro: thx07:35
|DS|Svenstaronow can anyone tell me please how to "tab" back to the xserver after i tabbed into a virtual console?07:36
crimsunalt+F707:36
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DenHow do I get the ctrl-alt-f1 console to be 1024x768, not 640x480, (on a laptop Sony vaio)?07:38
naliothDen: alt-f207:39
Dennalioth: ??07:39
naliothDen: click the alt key and the f2 key in sequence (thumb and forefinger)07:40
Dennalioth:  does ctrl-alt-f2 not work?07:40
naliothidk what ctrl-alt-f2 does07:40
naliothit does nothing for me07:40
Dennalioth: I've been doing ctrl-alt-f1, that get's me a 640x480 console07:40
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naliothDen: 00:30 < Den> Anyone - is there a GUI way to run some application (say konqueror) as root, ie, by just clicking something, rather than having to go to a         _RossH command shell & typing "kdesu progname"?07:41
naliothdammit07:41
naliothDen: the answer to what i just pasted is "alt-f2"07:41
LeeJunFanDen: you could always make either a menu entry or desktop application icon and set the command to be kdesu [whatever you want to run] 07:42
Dennalioth: Hm.  Ok, I just tried alt-f2, it brings up a gui dialog about running a command.  I want to get to the text mode, which on my Debian partition gives me a 1024x768 text console.07:42
naliothDen: you asked about a GUI way to run things as superuser07:43
DenLeeJunFan: thx, but I want to run _many_ commands - I want a console session, not just 1 command.07:43
naliothDen: if you want a text console, tend to your ~/.bashrc for its measurements07:43
Dennalioth: thx07:43
naliothubotu: tell Den about bum07:43
Dennalioth: actualy, I want a text console not under KDE - Because, given my current inability to log into kde, I'm gonna have to be in a text console (ctrl-alt-f1), and that is tiny compared to the1024x768 that is doab le under debian.07:45
nalioth_zZzDen: read your private message07:46
Dennalioth_zZz: If you mean about bum, i read it, thx.  If you mean something esle, I seel nothing else.07:47
nalioth_zZzyes, bum will let you boot into a console07:50
nalioth_zZzthe size of the console is up to you and your ~/.bashrc07:50
nalioth_zZzgood night07:50
DenThanks everyohne :)07:51
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AlleyOopdid I hear this right the Kubuntu, may be ending as a distro?08:03
AlleyOopthe/that08:03
Kamping_Kaiserno, it wont08:04
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elknof1hello08:05
Kamping_Kaiserlinks in question : (take the first one more seriously) http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/1917 and http://www.osnews.com/comment.php?news_id=14283&limit=no&threshold=-108:05
Kamping_Kaiserhi elknof108:05
elknof1ey men08:05
elknof1just a question08:05
elknof1what file should I download to install limewire??08:05
elknof1the rpm??08:05
elknof1i have kubuntu08:06
elknof15.1008:06
Hobbseethe deb08:06
elknof1but i didnt find the deb08:06
elknof1theres only bin08:06
Hobbsee!compile08:07
ubotuA nice howto about compiling software from source code can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (but remember to search !apt first, after adding all the !repos)08:07
AlleyOophttp://kubuntu.de/ so the article on the front page of this site isn't correct?08:07
Hobbsee!limewiere08:07
ubotuHobbsee: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/08:07
Hobbsee!limewire08:07
ubotufirst you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila. Consider !frostwire as an alternative.08:07
Hobbseeelknof1: ^08:07
Kamping_KaiserAlleyOop: it's over the top08:08
elknof1lol  men, i just have 3 days qith this OS, so how do I install java??08:08
Kamping_Kaiserheh.08:08
Kamping_Kaiser!java08:08
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs08:08
Kamping_Kaiser<grin>08:08
elknof1thanks men08:08
Kamping_Kaiserdon't asume gender online :)08:09
elknof1ok ok08:09
elknof1thanks08:09
Hobbseehehe08:09
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Kamping_Kaiserhehe.08:09
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Hobbsee:P08:10
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Kamping_Kaiser:)08:10
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Kamping_Kaiserlier? :O *cries*08:10
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Kamping_Kaiserwb dipnlik08:15
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DenWill someone please look at http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/650818 & help me with a "Login to KDE fails - return to the login screen"?  Paste is copy of /var/log/kde....  Thanks :)09:09
DenAnyone here?09:11
theballyeh09:11
theballsorry bit out of it09:11
theballwhats up Den09:11
Dentheball: can you look at that pastebin ^09:11
theballyes give me a minute please09:12
Den?09:12
DenThanks - waiting.09:12
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theballi see the log let me try and figure it out09:13
Dentheball: Yesterday I Adept upgraded Dapper, & it died saying something like kde-docs couldn't be installed, & that caused kde to not install cause it depended on the kde-docs.09:14
Dentheball: The Adept upgrade refused to continue, & after logging out, I could login, but got immediately returned to the login screen.09:15
theballactually it isnt the docs, mine said the same thing and still does09:15
theballerror opening security policy file /etc/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy09:16
theballthis is what seems to be the problem, I am trying to decipher it but iam not all that good.09:16
Dentheball: thanks :) - should I perhaps ask on ubuntu+1, or ask someeone else here (if there _is_ anyone else here)?09:18
theballjust a min, i think i have a solution09:18
Dentheball: By the way, upon advice from here earlier today, I created a brand new user, adduser, and the same thing happened when I tried to log into the new user account.09:18
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Dentheball: Also, someone mentioned that I migt have screwed up some config files when running konqueror from a root console  ----    <ubotu> Use kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions and the config files.   If it is not working, you may need to run "sudo adept-updater"   ----    Perhaps that's the cause of the security policy file problem?09:21
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cfraz89i find that sometimes running konq from root terminal09:24
theballthis seams to be a common deb problem, found lots oh stuff but have not found a definative answer on how to solve except to update  kde  install09:24
cfraz89causes my .ICEauthority file to be owned by root09:24
cfraz89which stops me from logging in09:24
Kamping_Kaisersame happens with k3b and nautilus09:25
theballit appears that if you can find the securitypolicy and copy it over to where the error is looking for it it should solve the problem,09:26
Dentheball: In your last comment, are you suggesting that what I need to do to solve this is update kde install?09:26
theballnow and then it gets copied to the wrong location09:27
theballread last 209:27
Dentheball: I don't know anything about "find the security policy & coopy it over" - How do I do that?09:27
Dentheball: Any idea how the error opening sec policy file came to exist?09:28
theballjust a sec please looking at my system for the poss solution09:29
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Dentheball: There is no directory /etc/X11/xserver on that system.09:31
theballmine either as i have just found09:31
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theballupon further reading this seems to be your clich i think!09:32
theballkrootimage: WARNING: failed to load SVG file /usr/share/wallpapers/kubuntu-wallpaper.svgz09:32
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Dentheball: clich = ??09:33
theballthe security policy seems to be a problem trying to load this picture09:33
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theballglitch09:33
theballsory09:33
theballapperantly when you set up thingfs as root you changed a picture and now it cant find it09:33
Dentheball: I don't recall ever having set up things as root09:34
theballwell i must say i think that i have used up the depth of my knowledge on you problm sorry i could not give you a solution.09:36
Dentheball:09:36
Den/usr/share/wallpapers# ll kub*09:36
Den-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1272112 2006-04-06 07:17 kubuntu-wallpaper.png09:36
Den-rw-r--r-- 1 root root      94 2006-04-06 07:17 kubuntu-wallpaper.png.desktop09:36
Dentheball: So, that file doesn't exist09:36
Dentheball: Should I just make one there?09:37
theball/usr/share/wallpapers/kubuntu-wallpaper.svgz make this one!09:37
theballnot png09:37
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Dentheball: If I "cp moon.svgz kubuntu-wallpaper.svgz" - Do you think that would be a fix?09:40
theballyes09:40
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theballthat should do it09:40
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Dentheball: Doesn't it seem strange, though, that KDE login would fail just cause it can't find a wallpaper file???09:40
Dentheball: That seems an excessively severe failue mode for such a small problem.09:41
theballi agree but thats all the info i could find on the security issue, it is looking for a root based file as a user.09:42
Dentheball: Any thoughts??  & Thanks :)09:42
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theballkrootimage: WARNING: failed to load SVG file /usr/share/wallpapers/kubuntu-wallpaper.svgz:::::   the krootimage is what trip my thoughts09:42
Dentheball: Thanks. :)   And, if that fails, do you think I might try apt uninstalling kde then apt installing kde?09:44
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DenThanks all :) bye09:46
theballit appears to be a problem with the xorh file not the kde or gnome type of problem, please find more expert help and thanks for letting me try and help you. cheers09:46
theballxorg09:46
Dentheball: So, if it won't work now, should I de then re install xorg?09:47
theballi am sorry but i dont know, not enough knowledge09:47
Dentheball: thx:)09:47
theballsee u09:47
mornfallRiddell: *poke*09:52
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_matt__hi09:54
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BambinoMorning people, would somone please be so kind and explain how i can repair my konsole? The files kcm_konsole.la and .so got missing and to konfigure the konsole is not working09:55
cfraz89maybe you couldtry dpkg -repair ?09:56
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yuionhow to update my system?09:59
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cfraz89sudo apt-get update, then sudo apt-get upgrade09:59
cfraz89or use adept updater10:00
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yuioncfraz89, thanks10:00
cfraz89np10:01
Bambinocfraz89 how do i dpkg repair>10:01
cfraz89sorry i meant apt-get repair10:01
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cfraz89wait10:02
cfraz89im not sure where i saw it now10:03
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cfraz89try using adept10:05
cfraz89and right click on konsole and click request reinstall10:05
Bambinok10:06
Bambinothanks10:06
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kameronanyone have spca5xx drivers working in dapper? this is the driver for icm32 based webcams..10:20
Tm_TI do10:20
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DenHi - would someone please help me with a login failure?  See http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/650892  Thanks! :)10:26
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DenAnyone here?10:28
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dr3ashad a nice html editor before, but can't remember the name, can anyone help?10:37
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antoinesalut tout le monde10:39
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cfraz89quanta + ?10:40
Antartikails se trouvent o les dpots plf?10:40
Antartikapour dapper10:40
cfraz89deb http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/ dapper free non-free10:41
Antartikaben ils ont pas l'air de marcher :/10:41
Antartikaquand tu regardes y'a que un dossier breezy10:42
Antartikasur le serv10:42
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cfraz89only works with breezy?10:42
cfraz89ah10:43
vgehey, should i update to breezy from dapper when i now have fresh install of it :\10:43
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vgei mean other way around :)10:43
cfraz89lol yeah10:43
cfraz89go for it10:43
cfraz89dapper rules10:43
vgewell ill get the flight6 then10:44
Antartikaoups i havent think that it should be english here ^^10:44
cfraz89lol np10:44
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vgesomebody can tell me why my network just died on old install, no ifconfig output, cant use ifup, nothing wrong in interfaces config :\10:47
Tepi|Hey! How I can check bitrate with kubuntu?10:47
Tepi|I mean .avi files etc10:47
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cfraz89kaffeine will show them10:48
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cfraz89player->track info10:49
Tepi|yeah10:49
Tepi|thx <310:49
cfraz89np10:49
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vgehmm, i can do deb package from sources when compiling?10:52
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vgedapper has same 1.0.7 ff in repos?10:53
Antartikano10:53
Antartika1.510:53
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vgekk, saves some time, ty10:53
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Hodihi, i have a problem. when i try to start adept i get this message:"You will not be able to change your system settings in any way (install, remove or upgrade software), because another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one." and im not able to update my linux. is there something i can do?10:54
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vgeHodi: check that you dont have another apt-get session opened11:02
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burepeCould someone tell me how to network with a windows computer and share files on my kubuntu box with the windows comp? I have been at it for a while.11:03
vgeburepe: install ssh to the linux machine11:04
Hodiim sure thath theres no other apt-get session opened, that's why im asking u11:04
vgeor samba11:04
cfraz89yeah samba11:04
cfraz89kubutu makes it really easy11:04
cfraz89Hodi:possibly theres a lock file that got left behind11:05
burepeI got samba but I don't know how to set it up properly11:05
cfraz89you dont need to11:05
burepeI have been trying.11:05
cfraz89theres a system settings thing for it?11:05
cfraz89i had to set it to advanced11:05
burepeYou mean i gui setting?11:05
cfraz89add the users11:05
cfraz89yes11:05
cfraz89and then set it to simple again11:05
burepeI can't work it.11:06
vgefind it in kcontol11:06
Hodicfraz89: how can i find such a log file (sry, im a newbie)11:06
vgekcontrol...11:06
cfraz89im not really sure, im new to kubuntu11:06
cfraz89search for .lock maybe?11:06
cfraz89locate:.lock11:06
cfraz89in konqueror11:06
Hodiok, thx11:06
Hodihm, nothing11:07
burepecfraz89, I want to share files other than the home directory so I can't use simple right?11:07
cfraz89it is apparently /var/cache/apt/lock11:07
cfraz89oh ok11:08
cfraz89advanced then11:08
burepethen what11:08
burepethe other comp can't see the linux box11:08
cfraz89add the users which you want to use samba11:08
cfraz89after that you can right click on any folder in konqueror and click on share11:09
cfraz89i think i had to restart samba after setting it up though11:09
cfraz89not sure11:09
burepeby use samba what do you mean? Under the allowed users button?11:09
cfraz89yes11:10
burepeso I checked "allow all users to share folders", ok?11:10
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cfraz89yes11:11
burepenow11:11
cfraz89ok11:11
burepeshare the folders right?11:11
cfraz89yes11:11
burepeOk i got one shared.11:11
burepeNow what.11:11
cfraz89after you press apply just then11:11
burepeThis is what I did before.11:11
cfraz89you might want to run /etc/init.d/samba restart11:11
cfraz89in sudo11:11
burepeok11:11
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burepethat is what i didnt do11:11
cfraz89im not sure if you need to11:12
burepehow does the linux box know the network name?11:12
vgehttp://www.howtoforge.com/samba_setup_ubuntu_5.10 <// this one i followed i think way back11:12
cfraz89it creates its own workgroup called mshome11:13
burepeIs this normal? /etc/init.d/samba restart11:13
burepeoops11:13
burepethis? * Starting Samba daemons.. /usr/share/samba/panic-action: line 48: mail: command not found11:13
burepe/etc/init.d/samba: line 24: 19702 Aborted                 start-stop-daemon --start --quiet --oknodo --exec /usr/sbin/smbd -- -D11:13
burepe                                                                         [fail] 11:13
cfraz89hmm11:13
burepewata4wa11:15
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vgemake a new user to your system, then install ssh and connect with ssh to that client :)11:16
cfraz89try uninstalling and reinstalling samba11:17
burepewhat is the new user command ?11:17
burepeadduser?11:17
zmouseradd11:18
burepeits adduser11:18
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burepealmost done11:20
vgethen use http://www.ssh.com/support/downloads/secureshellwks/non-commercial.html or putty or something on the windows machine11:21
vgeif your in a hurry11:22
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burepecfraz89, whats next11:23
burepevge, whats next11:24
cfraz89you reinstalled samba?11:24
burepeyeah11:24
cfraz89ok11:24
cfraz89try using the systemsettings again11:24
cfraz89advanced, all users, apply11:24
cfraz89restart samba11:24
burepeunder filesharing or samba?11:24
burepejust to make sure11:25
cfraz89sharing11:25
burepeok11:25
cfraz89samba would never work for me in mandriva11:25
cfraz89it just worked here11:25
vgehttp://www.howtoforge.com/samba_setup_ubuntu_5.10_p4 << i think this is a good copypaste guide11:25
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burepecfraz89, start-stop-daemon: warning: failed to kill 20165: Operation not permitted11:27
burepe                                                                         [ ok ] 11:27
burepe * Starting Samba daemons.. /usr/share/samba/panic-action: line 48: mail: command not found11:27
burepe/etc/init.d/samba: line 24: 20252 Aborted                 start-stop-daemon --start --quiet --oknodo --exec /usr/sbin/smbd -- -D11:27
HodiI found a lock file in /var/lib/dpkg/ but i cant delete it, i also tryed with the console11:27
cfraz89hmm11:28
Hodiand when i delete it with the console it dissapears, but if i try to start adept it returns and blocks11:28
cfraz89did you use sudo?11:28
Hodiyes11:28
cfraz89hmm11:28
Hodisudo rm lock11:28
cfraz89also burepe?11:28
cfraz89sudo?11:28
Hodino11:28
Hodi?11:28
cfraz89sorry Hodi, im not sure11:29
burepethen  * Starting Samba daemons.. /usr/share/samba/panic-action: line 48: mail: command not found11:29
burepe/etc/init.d/samba: line 24: 20252 Aborted                 start-stop-daemon --start --quiet --oknodo --exec /usr/sbin/smbd -- -D11:29
burepe                                                                         [fail] 11:29
cfraz89burepe, did you use sudo?11:29
burepenope11:29
cfraz89use it11:29
cfraz89sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart11:29
Riddellmornfall: hmm?11:29
burepecfraz89, got through11:29
burepenow what11:30
cfraz89ok11:30
cfraz89find the folder you want to share in konqueror11:30
cfraz89right click on it11:30
cfraz89click on share11:30
burepevge, thanks for the link. I am gonna see where cfraz89 takes me and if it don't work Ill try yours. thanks11:31
burepeok11:31
burepesweet11:31
burepegot it11:31
burepedone11:32
burepeworks11:32
burepeYou know the key is that samba restart11:32
burepeI have been doing this for ages11:32
burepesame thing11:32
burepewith out the restart and it never worked11:32
cfraz89cool11:32
burepeThanks so much11:32
cfraz89np11:33
cfraz89the tool should do it for you11:33
burepeI had one more question maybe you could help me with. Not too hard.11:33
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DenHi - Would you help me with a "KDE login immediately returns to the login screen" problem???  See http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/650892  I've been told by #xorg that the "error opening security policy file /etc/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy" isn't an error, & it seems to be a KDE problem - where do I look for the KDE cause of auto-logout?11:33
burepeI just did a reinstall and in my last install I had11:34
burepeoop11:34
burepeDen I had the same problem11:34
cfraz89?11:34
burepeinstall ubuntu-desktop11:34
Denburepe: When did you get the problem, & how did it get fixed?11:34
burepecfraz89, sorry let me just tell him how to fix this11:35
cfraz89ok11:35
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vgeDen: you loggedoff and started X from command line and only error it gave was that error opening security policy?11:35
burepeI installed ubuntu-desktop and then it will ask you which desktop manager you want choose the ubuntu-gnome one not the kde one11:35
burepeand then you can sign in11:35
burepeI did a reinstall after that but I think the problem is something to do with the file permissions of the home folder.11:36
burepeBeyond that I never figured it out but that will get you a working machine11:37
Denvge: No, I didn't " loggedoff and started X from command line ", I just got the login screen on boot up, & that error was in /var/log/kdm...something11:37
vgetry to loggoff to command line and type startx11:37
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vgei just think its a xorg.conf error11:38
Denburepe: When did you have that error? Was it on Dapper?  It seems crazy to have to install ubuntu-gnome when I want kde - that kinda seems that the KDE developers are buggy.11:38
burepeit is a kde log-in problem so if you switch to gnome you can get it. I read about this proble happening with people who had fat32 partitions and the wrong permissions for the home folder, but I think this might be different11:38
burepeyou can use kde you just have to sign in with the gnome log in11:39
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burepeif you want to get past the log in screen that is how you do it. Then work on fixing the problem.11:39
burepeyou can always change it back once you fix it.11:39
Denvge: Are you a kde developer or user?  Any idea how this problem came to exist on my system\?  I'd just done and Adept upgrade, which failed due to (kde-docs??) - this is with dapper.11:40
burepeI got it after the power went out in my house. I am not a developer.11:40
vgeDen: your kde comes to login screen when you type right password to kdm?11:40
burepeI am useing breezy11:40
Denburepe: Dappper?11:40
burepeI am useing breezy11:41
Denvge: I boot, get kde login screen (dapper) It has my user name, I enter pw, it flashes the screen & comes back to the login screen, no password error message.  If I deliberately misspell the pw, I get a pw error msg, so I think my pw is typed correctly.11:42
cfraz89Den: it says that for me too11:42
burepethis is what happens right? From the kde log in screen you log in, it waits for a sec and then goes black, then the grey x screen with the x comes up, then it goes back to the kde log in screen.11:42
cfraz89i dont think it is the error11:42
Dencfraz89: It sas what?11:42
vgeits a xorg.conf error...11:42
vgereboot to console and type startx11:43
cfraz89bout securiypolicy11:43
vgeX cant start so it flashes it and returs to kdm11:44
Denvge: OK, I can try that, but how will that cause the bug to be fixed?11:44
vgeyou see what fails11:44
Denvge: What good is it going to do to restart it if it fails upon boot?11:44
Denvge: ok11:44
Denvge: How do I "reboot to console"?11:45
vgewhen you get your login screen, there is buttons below, some say, console something, im not 100% sure11:45
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cfraz89control alt f1 will switch to konsole11:46
cfraz89*console11:46
cfraz89then just stop x11:46
Denvge: yes, but kde will already/still be running - how do I "stop x"?11:46
Den??11:47
Dencfraz89: how do I "stop x"?11:47
burepecfraz89, sorry about that. This is the question :I just did a reinstall and in my last install one I was using several different media players to watch various video formats. I tried to do what I did before and install the same programs but it seem that I can only use vlc at the moment. All the other ones say the codecs are missing. What package am I missing that lets me use the other programs?11:47
vgewell the X aint runnig when you get your login screen11:48
cfraz89maybe win3scodecs?11:48
burepevge but the log in screen is x isn't it?11:48
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cfraz89also xine has xine1cs11:48
burepecfraz89,  cool thanks.11:48
vgehttp://art.ubuntu.com/images/thumbnails/gdm_greeter/kubuntu_breezy_badger_tn.png11:48
Denvge: um, if I boot dapperr, it starts X & brings up the KDE login.  If I ctrl-alt-f1 & get to a console, X is still running - how do I stop X?11:49
burepekillx I think11:49
cfraz89sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop11:49
cfraz89burepe: i hope thats right11:49
cfraz89i only use xine11:49
cfraz89i downloaded win32codecs and xine1c211:49
burepeI tried to use xine but I couldnt figure out the path in the gui. I couldnt get to  the /11:50
cfraz89did you use kaffeine?11:51
vgeDen: when your in kde login, use the buttons below the login to use the nongraphic login, when there, type startx11:51
vgeno altf111:51
cfraz89burepe: i always use kaffeine or kmplayer for xine11:52
Raymanmy OpenOffice hangs anytime I use a File etc menu from the top11:52
vgeKDM (KDE Display Manager) is a graphical login interface for computers using Unix-like operating systems.  << kdm is not kde nor x11:52
RaymanI'm on dapper kubuntu11:52
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Denvge cfraz89 burepe everyone: Thaks :)11:53
burepecfraz89, sorry got booted11:53
cfraz89np :)11:53
burepeden11:53
burepedid you fix it?11:53
Denburepe: gotta reboot & try11:53
burepecfraz89, what were the packages11:54
cfraz89xine1c2 is the extra opensource codecs11:54
burepetell me what happens I sould like to know11:54
cfraz89and win32 codecs is:11:54
burepeok11:54
cfraz89!win32codecs11:54
ubotuI guess win32codecs is binary only codecs that some call evil., and they're available from http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/11:54
vgeburepe: for you also: KDM (KDE Display Manager) is a graphical login interface for computers using Unix-like operating systems.  << kdm is not kde nor x11:55
burepethanks11:55
cfraz89np11:55
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burepecfraz89, I have both thoes files already but I can't use a lot of programs. Strange11:57
cfraz89hmm11:57
maeI can't get amarok to play mp3 files in latest dapper, i did mae@omega:~$ sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad11:58
cfraz89so you have all xine codecs?11:58
burepehow do I get to the / in xine11:58
cfraz89burepe: use kaffeine, it helps11:58
cfraz89mae, install xine1c211:58
maewhat happen to the gstreamer engine for amarok11:59
burepein kaffine it says cant access remote files because my files are on a second hard drive, hdb111:59
cfraz89it has a new 0.10 engine11:59
cfraz89but i dont thnk dapper has it11:59
maei have xine12:00
cfraz89oh i see12:00
maebut doesn't play mp312:00
cfraz89can you use mount point?12:00
cfraz89mae: xine1c2 is a codecs package for it12:00
burepekaffeine says "you can only select local files". I could use files from that drive in the las install12:00
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cfraz89did you try typing in mount point up top?12:01
cfraz89instead of using system:/12:01
burepethere were no decoders found to handle the stream you might need to install corresponding plugins12:02
burepeit said12:02
burepeyeah that worked the mount point12:02
burepethanks for that12:02
cfraz89what type of file is it?12:02
cfraz89np12:02
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burepexvid12:02
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cfraz89hmm12:03
vge!freeformats12:03
ubotuThere are a large number of Free Formats which are preferred over patent and copyright encumbered formats. They are listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats12:03
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burepeI dont really understand all these engines. It seems like any player can use any engine12:05
burepehow do I get to the / in xine?12:05
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XVampireXHi12:05
burepethere is boot bin cdrom bootstrap dev and etc12:06
burepebut no /12:06
XVampireXIs there an easy way to get a quick file server on kubuntu?12:06
cfraz89usually /media12:06
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cfraz89XVampireX: kde has a small web server applet12:06
burepefrom where?12:06
cfraz89which is really useful12:06
Tepi|is there any other way to check bitrate than kaffeine?12:06
XVampireXcfraz89: what's it called?12:06
cfraz89Public File Server12:07
cfraz89just go to add applet12:07
cfraz89on kicker12:07
XVampireXoh, ok, cool12:07
burepecfraz89, I just dragged and dropped in to xine and it works. would be nice to use kaffiene too though. Totem doesnt work also.12:07
cfraz89ok12:08
XVampireXPublic File Server?12:08
cfraz89yep12:08
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XVampireXDoes it work over the internet?12:08
cfraz89yes12:08
cfraz89so burepe, you wen to open file in kaffeine12:08
Tepi|is there any other way to check bitrate than kaffeine?12:08
noteventimeAre there any kaffeine 0.8 debs ready yet?12:09
burepeyeah cfraz8912:09
cfraz89i want that deb too12:09
cfraz89then just go up till you get to /12:09
cfraz89then go to media12:09
cfraz89and hdb should be mounted12:09
burepeI got that part12:09
cfraz89ther12:09
burepeit is the file type12:09
cfraz89?12:09
burepeit doesnt recognize the codec12:09
cfraz89oh12:09
burepetotem too12:09
cfraz89but works in xine-ui?12:10
burepexine and vlc are independent i think12:10
burepetotem and kaffiene use the codecs from some collective place12:10
cfraz89yes12:10
cfraz89yep12:10
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cfraz89they both use xine12:10
burepe!restricted formats12:10
ubotumethinks restricted formats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'12:10
burepereally?12:10
cfraz89yes12:10
cfraz89i think they can both use gstreamer too12:11
burepeso if xine works the the others should too12:11
cfraz89but primarily xine for kaffeine12:11
burepegstreamer12:11
os2macanyone got a wag on the current sched release date for badger?12:11
vgei can tell you, but then id had to kill you12:12
noteventimebadger? next ubuntu release?12:13
noteventime:)12:13
vgewww.badgerbadger.com12:14
noteventime:/12:14
noteventime(^-^)12:14
burepecfraz89,  I think it might be the kaffeine-xine package12:15
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noteventimeok...12:15
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noteventimeIs there any official code name for 6.10 (6.11?)12:16
DenHow can I completely remove all KDE stuff from Dapper, then reinstall it?12:16
noteventimeremove kdelibs?12:17
noteventimeor kdebase12:17
vgeDen: why_12:17
Dennoteventime: Can you say _for sure_?12:17
noteventimeNo ^^, sorry I'd have to try myself12:17
vgebyteway, was i correct that your X crashed?12:18
Denvge: Cause I can't get a fix on this logout immediately problem, I've spent about 6 hours on it - I'd just like a simple way to get a known basic setup, fast.    Any suggestions?12:18
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vgewhat was the startx error?12:18
Tepi|hey! is there any other way to  check bitrate than kaffeine? :)12:18
Tepi|help me, pls :)12:19
cfraz89what about sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop?12:19
Denvge: When I went to root in console, did /etc/init.d/kdm stop, then did a startx it started as root & went right into KDE desktop - no login, but not as a user, as root, & no error.12:19
cfraz89Tepi| i think if you have arts-xine installed konqueror tells you in the file tips12:20
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Mangustaonly good way to be able to remove kubuntu is to install it with aptitude, not apt-get, then removing it with aptitude will remove all packages installed with kubuntu-desktop, unless they have been since updated/changed...12:20
vgeDen: why didint you do sudo startx_12:20
Dencfraz89: Can you say for sure that apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop will work?12:21
Mangustahoweer, you could try reinstalling it with aptitude, then uninstalling12:21
Mangustaneway, gym time12:21
Denvge: I was root, I didn't need to do sudo12:21
burepeDen before you uninstall kde, do you have another gui?12:22
Denburepe: no other gui, just kubuntu12:22
burepeYou should install gnome or xfce and then do what you are planning cause if you mess up you are gonna have a gui less system12:22
vgeDen: well the X starts ofcourse with the user whos logged in, would have been nice to see the error message when you would have logged in with your normal user12:22
burepeit you install gnome you can use your comp while you work out the problem12:23
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burepedo sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop12:23
Denvge: I don't think there _is_ an error message - there is no error - it just immediately logs out....?12:23
burepethen choose the gnome log in manager,12:24
vgeyou dont see X failmessages when you use KDM12:24
Denburepe: Thanks - but I've no desire to complicate the systgem with gnome.12:24
burepethen sign in to gnome and do sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop12:24
burepeyou are doing it the hard way.12:24
DenAre there any Ubuntu KDE developers here?12:25
burepeYou have spent six hours on a problem that i already went through. good luck12:25
Denburepe: You went through this on Dapper?12:25
vgeDen: ill check your problem in 14Mins, eaven if you can sort it out, i still think ill try it12:25
Denvge: I don't understand your comment12:26
burepeit is not dapper but it is clearly the same problem12:26
Denburepe: What did you do to fix it?12:26
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burepeI eventually reinstalled but I had a temporary fix by changing the log in manager by installing gnome.12:28
burepeBut i spent hours doing what you did and everyone told me to just reinstall.12:28
burepeat least with gnome you can use the comp while you look for the solution, No kde and no gnome is all command line. seems like it might be harder. but whatever... good luck.12:30
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vgeburepe: command line is not a decase12:30
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burepevge, I know it is a handy tool just as a gui is. When fixing a problem I like to have both. To each their own.12:34
_jerhi. i'm having problems installing xine. it says12:35
_jerconfigure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH12:35
vgewell, if my download ends soon, ill see whan i can do with is12:35
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cfraz89_jer, you need to apt-get install build-essential12:36
_jercfraz89: sorry, i don't get it, newbie here =)12:37
vgeand installing from sources?12:37
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_jerhelp!12:39
cfraz89_jer, open up a konsole and type in sudo apt-get install build-essential12:39
cfraz89or install it from adept12:39
nico8481hi12:39
cfraz89its just a package which contains all the compilers12:39
_jerah, ok. i'll try12:39
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sorush20how do I get konqueror buttons like backspace to move me to the previous webpage and act just like windows... or are there any other shortcuts I need to know about>?12:41
vgecheck kcontrol button shortcuts12:41
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_jercfraz89, i did it.. then tried ./configure again.. says12:47
_jerconfigure: error: zlib needed12:47
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BambinoHow do I update my konversation?12:53
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vgeif newer is available, try adept12:53
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_jerwhere can i get zlib?12:58
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_jerconfigure: error: zlib needed12:58
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vge_jer: adept or apt/get01:01
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spghi to all01:08
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spgcan anyone tell me if the last version of kubuntu includes kde4?01:08
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phazemancan someone please give a link to a full sources.list file with universe and multiverse inside ? i can't connect to my home machine to get it from there...01:09
phazemanspg: it probably won't01:09
spg:(01:09
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cfraz89phazeman: here ill paste it up01:12
phazemancfraz89: where ?01:13
cfraz89http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/65104601:13
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phazemanthanks !01:13
cfraz89_awayits for dapper01:13
cfraz89_awaynp01:14
phazemanyeah thats what i need01:14
cfraz89_awayshouldnt be hard to adapt to breezy though01:14
cfraz89_awayok01:14
phazemanthanks much01:14
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twosouls82tristanmike: long time no see ;)01:18
twosouls82hi all01:18
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j1_Anyone here?01:24
robotgeekj1_: do you ahve a question?01:25
nico8481robotgeek: yup he just asked it :-)01:26
robotgeeknico8481: haha01:26
j1_robotgeek: No, thanks, just wanted to see if ne1 could hear me.01:26
j1_:)01:26
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tomplasthi01:56
tomplastcan anyone tell me why 3ddrivers have suddenly stopped working with my 686 kernel but works fine with my 386 kernel?01:57
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OdyXtomplast today's update ?02:01
tomplastnah it started yesterday02:02
tomplastit could be something with  my graphics card02:02
OdyXwell .. after an update ?02:02
tomplastwindows is now in 640*480 (4 bits)02:02
tomplastcant change that02:02
OdyXhum....02:03
OdyXnvidia ?02:03
tomplastbut  i got higher resolution in kubuntu02:03
tomplastand nvidia works  with the 386 kernel02:03
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tomplastand did work with the 686 kernel before too02:03
tomplastbut it suddenly stopped02:03
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OdyXreally.. I don't know02:03
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tomplastoki02:04
tomplast:/02:04
OdyXI had updates today ... but as thoggen is running (for 12 hours now).02:04
tomplasti guess 386 kernel will  be okay02:04
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tomplastit isnt that slow02:05
OdyXI will probably reboot.... tomorrow :-(02:05
tomplastk02:05
OdyXslow is little word.02:05
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j1_Hi - what is the name of the "Master package for KDE" to install to get all of KDE installed in Ubuntu? - or, if not _all_, at least a working KDE system?02:16
jjessekubuntu-desktop02:17
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me2winj1_: kubuntu-desktop02:17
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kubuntutaotaoj1_: kubuntu-desktop  kde-i18n-zhcn  kdm  kaffeine-mozilla02:19
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theineHi, does KDE write an event log while it's running?02:21
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OdyXtheine: /var/log/kdm.log at least...02:25
vgewhy when i click "show desktop" button, desktop is minimized, but when in the desctop ill try to make a new folder with mouse2, the dropped down content jumps back up?02:26
OdyXvge: Dapper or Breezy ? I heard about such a bug... maybe take a look in bugs.kde.org or Launchpad.02:27
visik_vge: doesn't work like this for me02:27
vgedapper an breezy02:27
visik_kde ?02:28
vgeyup02:28
vge3.5.202:28
visik_I use 3.5.2 and works without problems for me02:28
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vgevisik_: did you actually push the "create new Folder" option?02:29
visik_oh02:30
visik_u r right02:30
humboldtdoes anybody have any idea what could be the reason my Skype gets disconnected about every minute? This does not seem to be a problem with skype but with some other service interfering. Unfortunately it appears via either LAN and WLAN connection. Any Ideas?02:30
vgekinda annoying02:30
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j1_jjesse: me2win kubuntutaotao :  I wiped KDE off Dapper with "apt-get remove libqt3-mt", then did a "apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" then "install kde-core" -- when I do cd /etc/init.d, ./kdm start, I get a login screen, login, BUT then all I get is a gui desktop, one console window, no task bar, no start menu, & right click on desktop does nothing & the console window has no top bar to grab & move it around - any suggestion of what els02:31
vgesomebody knows where i can report this or where to repot thease in general?02:31
twosouls82how do I create official (K)Ubuntu packages?02:32
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jjessej1_: sorry i don't know :(02:32
Hobbseetwosouls82: wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuPackagingGuide02:32
twosouls82Hobbsee: thanks mate02:32
twosouls82:) quite a lot of work/learning to do I see02:34
Hobbseetwosouls82: yeah...02:34
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Hobbsee:)02:35
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Smeggyahh02:37
Smeggygoddamn I love Konqueror02:37
vgei dont02:37
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vgehmm, somebody has broadcom wireless drivers that work in dapper?02:37
kubuntutaotaoj1_: if apt source had a problem? i had phenomena as same as you once upon a time.02:38
Smeggythe ones included with it work in dapper vge02:38
Smeggyvge: you just need to add some firmware02:38
Smeggyand put it into /lib/firmware02:38
vgeSmeggy: i know02:38
vgeSmeggy: im just lazy :)02:38
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Smeggytheres a firmware deb somewhere lol02:38
vgeis there? :)02:39
Smeggyone sec02:39
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Smeggyhttp://ubuntu.cafuego.net/pool/bcm43xx/bcm43xx-firmware_1.0-0ubuntu1_i386.deb02:40
Smeggyapparently that works :)02:40
vgethats easy enough :)02:40
CinamaroK is really the shit. Wow.02:42
Smeggyisnt it just :D02:42
CinCan't wait for 1.4. :)02:43
CinHaha, wow a style browser. Awesome.02:45
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epinephrineamarok roks. :>02:46
CinHehe. roKs. :P02:46
Smeggy:D02:46
Smeggyits the best media player on any platform by a long shot02:47
epinephrineshame it's not on windows02:47
Smeggyyeh02:47
epinephrine(please don't hurt me) ;P02:47
Smeggyno i agree02:47
Smeggyand mac osx too :D02:47
visik_http://pastebin.com/651200 <- what does it mean ?02:48
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ugneris it true that ubuntu has dropped kubuntu support?02:49
Hobbseeugner: no.02:49
frank23ugner: where did you hear that02:49
CinA GNOME user? :P02:49
epinephrine:o02:49
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ugnerfrank23: /. or osnews02:49
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Riddellugner: /.?02:52
frank23Hobbsee: what is that all about? The local ubuntu websites have nothing to do with Ubuntu right?02:52
frank23Riddell: http://www.osnews.com/02:53
ugnerRiddell: /. is a site with people talking about mostly technology related news02:53
Hobbseefrank23: see Riddell's response to it:  http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/191702:53
OdyXkameron: OK :D02:53
ugnerRiddell: some sorta forum02:53
kameronOdyX, :D02:53
ugnerhttp:///..com02:53
Riddellugner: but there's no kubuntu story on it.  thank goodness02:53
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OdyXkameron: it was not supposed to be agressive...02:54
xanax`salut02:54
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ugnerRiddell: http://slashdot.com02:54
kameronOdyX, oh, it wasn't taken that way. i just tried to explain a bit. it's all good bud.02:54
HobbseeRiddell: yeah, if it had gone to slashdot...ouch...02:54
ugnerRiddell: then it must be osnews02:54
Hobbseeugner: FYI - it's .org02:54
OdyXkameron: fine.02:54
Hobbseeit's osnews, yes02:54
ugneri salute you too02:54
Hobbseeand most of the comments are either innacurate or just plain wrong.02:54
RiddellHobbsee: I think even slashdot is not that stupid.  only osnews is02:54
Hobbseehehe!02:55
ugnerHobbsee: oops, right02:55
ugnerRiddell: http://slashdot.org02:55
HobbseeRiddell: i thought that ubuntu-$lang sites were hosted on cannonical servers...02:55
RiddellHobbsee: ubuntu-xx.org yes but not kubuntu.de02:56
Hobbseeor did i misread that in a CC meeting, where someone was once asking for hosting02:56
Hobbseewell, yeah...clearly :P02:56
Hobbseewhat about kubuntu-$lang ones?02:56
OdyXRiddell: it's not the case for ubuntu-fr.org, ubuntu-de.org02:57
RiddellHobbsee: canonical registered all the ubuntu-xx domains, they didn't do that for kubuntu but can do if someone wants to start up a website02:57
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Hobbseeah ok...i see02:57
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OdyXHobbsee: in the french community, we decided to hold everything on ubuntu-fr.org, even everything K-related.02:57
OdyXHobbsee: but work is on for different CSS, kubuntu-fr.org tld and all the stuff.02:58
RiddellOdyX: I guess the french and german communities got to those domains before canonical did :)02:58
Hobbseelol02:59
OdyXRiddell: the fact is I don't know who has the tld's, but the servers at least are NOT canonical's02:59
OdyXRiddell: Apinc02:59
RiddellDavid LARLET02:59
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OdyXRiddell: Yep titus@apinc.org03:02
vgewould be nice if adept had "time left" assuming when downloading lots of packets03:02
=== ..[topic/#kubuntu:Riddell] : Flight 6 out | Amarok 1.4 beta 3, KOffice 1.5 RC1 out - See http://kubuntu.org/ | Breezy fixes in breezy-updates | IRC info and channels in other languages: http://wiki.kubuntu.org/InternetRelayChat | Please don't paste into the channel, use http://kubuntu.pastebin.com | Dapper discussion in #ubuntu+1 | http://wiki.kubuntu.org/HelpingKubuntu
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ugnerwhich one is newer, deb or rpm?03:08
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kubuntutaotaougner:what's your means?03:08
Hobbsee!+rpm03:09
ubotuhmm... rpm is the Redhat Package Management file. Very similar to Debians DEB files, but require alien to install. ask me about !alien03:09
Hobbsee!+deb03:09
ubotuTo install a .deb file: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb  (but note that the program you want might be installable using !apt from the !repos)03:09
noteventimeor gdebi03:09
noteventimegdeb is graphical deb installer03:09
noteventimegdebi*03:09
Hobbseetrue03:09
Hobbseei think there's one for kde too...right click to install the deb?03:10
OdyXHobbsee: it works...03:10
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noteventimeI don't know, I'm fine with gdebi03:10
ugnerkubuntutaotao: my means??03:10
OdyXHobbsee: awful but works.03:10
Hobbseevge: it's there already03:10
Hobbseetrue03:11
ugnerwhich packaging system is more recently invented, deb or rpm?03:11
Hobbseeugner: you'd have to look at wikipedia for something trivial like that03:11
ugnerHobbsee: trivial? hehehe03:11
ugnerHobbsee: i want to know which one is more inovative03:12
Hobbseewell, what difference does it make?  they're totally different03:12
kubuntutaotaougner:yeah.03:12
ugnerkubuntutaotao: oh, ok03:12
ugnerir/inovative/innovative/03:14
noteventimeugner, Just a question how would you know which one is more innovative by knowing when they were released?03:14
noteventime:P03:14
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mhterresmorning03:14
noteventime'ello03:14
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ugnernoteventime: nobody releases an obsolete replacement of something, say, five years older. right?03:15
noteventimeugner, :/ not totally true, there are always "yet another"03:16
noteventimeSubversion03:16
noteventimeoh03:17
noteventimesorry03:17
vgeHobbsee: you were saying something to me?03:17
noteventimeforget that about subversion03:17
noteventimeugner, I don't agree, but I agree that it would be stupid03:17
noteventimeStill The earlyer can still develop03:18
ugnernoteventime: agreed; i don't take release date as an ultimate proof of innovativeness myself.03:18
Hobbseevge: yeah.  drat, sorry, i thought you were talking about apt-get, not adept...03:18
noteventimeSo lets say RPM was first, dpkg comes later. RPM can still be more innovative by having better developers03:18
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noteventimegtg, bbl03:19
Hobbseeugner: google rpm hell.03:19
Hobbseeor check out wikipedia, on both deb and rpm03:20
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phazeman!tell phazeman about firefox03:24
noteventime!firefox03:25
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kujeger_worksay, how can I check what's using the alsasink?03:35
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sorush20I'm unable to mount a floppy in kubuntu03:38
sorush20I have kde 3.5.203:38
Chameleon22whats a floppy?03:38
sorush20floppy disk03:38
Kamping_Kaiseris it a clean install?03:38
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sorush20how can you guys now know what a floppy is?03:42
vgemaby he was referring to the fact that floppys are not that popular anymore03:43
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Mars^Hi, someone connecting psp to kubuntu by wi fi?03:44
sorush20when I click on the floppy icon in konqueror I get this message.. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1196403:45
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Kamping_Kaisersorush20: you havent answerd my question03:48
sorush20Kamping_Kaiser: no its not.. don't tell me you have to do a clean install every time you want to mount by click a floppy?03:48
sorush20I can mount it manually.. but them i'm getting read errors..03:49
Kamping_Kaisersorush20: a clean Kubuntu Breezy install has floppy  mounting issues03:49
Kamping_Kaiseryou sure the disc is ok?03:49
sorush20well I'm scanning it with windows computer...03:50
sorush20why isn't the drivers like windows more convinent.. like fsck.vfat should not be done from the command line it should also be able to do it from right click on the floppy icon.. just like any fully gui OS03:51
dipnlikKamping_Kaiser: wow. were these issues already fixed in dapper?03:51
sorush20US is going to bomb my country too...03:52
Kamping_Kaiserdipnlik: yeh03:52
sorush20man kina makes you wonder whether its worth reading past the first line of the UN charter..03:52
dipnlikKamping_Kaiser: k, thanks :)03:52
Kamping_Kaiserdipnlik: :)03:53
dipnlikKamping_Kaiser: installed dapper flight 6 yesterday at home03:53
Kamping_Kaisergreat. hows it goig for you?03:53
dipnlikKamping_Kaiser: so far so good, just didn't like at all the default colorscheme03:54
Kamping_Kaiseri havent seen it03:54
dipnlikKamping_Kaiser: went back to plastik and some less brighter colors03:54
Hobbseehaha yeah03:54
Hobbseedipnlik: dont panic, it's being redone..03:54
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dipnlikHobbsee: :)03:55
Kamping_KaiserFK. i don't have a chroot on here atm03:55
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dipnlikKamping_Kaiser: oh, i remembered a little problem. i couldn't set my screen resolution to 1152xanything :S03:56
Kamping_Kaiserbugger :/ got it sussed, or need a hand?03:57
dipnlikKamping_Kaiser: using 1280x1024 there, no problems with it, but it would be nice if i could set it to 115203:57
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Kamping_Kaiserwhat's it on? fancy hardware of some sort?03:57
dipnlikKamping_Kaiser: but i'm at work now, maybe some other time i'll try to fix this03:57
dipnlikKamping_Kaiser: nothing unusual, i believe03:58
Kamping_Kaiseryeh.cool :)03:58
dipnlikKamping_Kaiser: ati radeon 9200, IIRC03:58
Kamping_Kaiseri'm at home atm :)03:58
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davideah ca nun parla nissuno04:00
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foobarhi there, how do I get libtunepimp-bin package recompiled to accept .mp3 files? I'm on dapper and can't use the musicbrainz feature in amarok04:06
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Flying_Eaglehi04:07
Flying_Eaglewhats goin with kubuntu.de?04:08
HobbseeFlying_Eagle: http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/191704:08
Flying_Eagleare their activities in any way justified?04:08
Hobbseeread the blog.04:09
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Flying_Eaglei did04:09
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Flying_Eaglebut i cant understand it04:09
Flying_Eagleits just too paradox04:09
Hobbseeeveryone's made a massive deal of it, when they didnt need to.04:09
noteventimeIs there any way to make apps preload in kubuntu?04:10
Flying_Eagledepends on the app04:11
Flying_Eaglei think there are packages for firefox and openoffice04:11
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Flying_Eagleand konqueror has "built-in"-preload-ability04:11
noteventimeok, It's mosly firefox I'm after anyway04:11
noteventimeI've only been able to find it for window :/04:12
HobbseeKamping_Kaiser: hehe...that's a good idea.  i deleted all of it04:13
noteventimeCool, there is a preload deamon04:13
Hobbseenoteventime: there is, howto on ubuntuforums.org  - i didnt see it make that much difference though04:13
Kamping_KaiserHobbsee: heh. that would do it04:13
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noteventimeok04:13
noteventime!preload04:13
ubotunoteventime: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/04:13
Flying_Eaglenoteventime, what about just saving firefox in your session and let it open at "boot"-time?04:14
noteventimeFlying_Eagle, I don't want the firefox window to open :D04:16
noteventimeI allready have stupid konversation doing that ^^04:16
sorush20does a floppy have to mounted or unmounted to be able to fsck.msdos?04:17
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sorush20are windows xp floppies msdos format or vfat format?04:17
noteventimeTry :)04:18
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Kamping_Kaiservfat usualy04:19
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slow-motionhallo04:22
noteventime'ello04:22
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noyrDoes anybody know how to configure network bridge in kubuntu using grafical interface? :] 04:26
thor_I have now given up getting those new nvidia drivers installed in Dapper. The last try messed up several permissions pretty bad. Screw you nvidia!04:28
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Kamping_Kaiserthor_: realy? bad luck04:30
Kamping_Kaiserwhat's happeneed?04:30
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thor_Kaiser: The driver seems to install just fine, I just can't get the xserver running. After reverting to a backup of xorg.conf after the last try, I couldn't get KDE up because of screwed up premissions. Got it fixed now, and purged all of nvidia from my system.04:33
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noteventimethor_, What card are you using?04:33
thor_Maybe I'll try again when 6.06 is released, or maybe in flight 7. We'll see04:33
thor_go730004:33
noteventimeok04:33
noteventimeHave you tried installing the official onesfrom the webpage?04:34
thor_Yes, that's the ones causing trouble.04:34
thor_None of the guides work for me either. Not even tsEliot can help me. :)04:35
noteventimeWhy don't you install nvidia-glx?04:35
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thor_I tried that. Didn't work either.04:35
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noteventimeWhat was the error?04:36
thor_I don't even remember. I've around so much with the drivers.....04:36
noteventimeTrus me, I have an Intel card, I know how it feels :(04:37
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thor_I'm beginning to think that Dapper is not ready for the drivers. lol...04:38
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noteventimeI've only installed nvidia legacy on my old desktop04:39
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slow-motionbbl04:40
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sorush20is there a good feed reader in konqueror.?04:47
Hobbseesorush20: akregator04:48
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vgehmm, i have broadcom card found when i check kcontrol, and have installed firmware too, but if i click "properties" in kcontrol about the wlan, kcontrol crashes?04:50
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RayFredPiphello04:53
RayFredPipUbugtu, hello?04:53
Hobbseehi RayFredPip - what were you wanting?04:53
me2winhello04:53
Hobbseeubugtu is a bot...04:53
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RayFredPipUbugtu,what is the difference between ubuntu and kubuntu?04:54
humboldtwhat process or daemon concering my WiFi network could force my connection offline for a splitsecond every minute, just enough to loose my skype connection?04:54
me2winRayFredPip: ubuntu uses the gnome desktop environment, kubuntu uses the KDE desktop environment04:54
HobbseeRayFredPip: kde and gnome...04:54
RayFredPipJust the  environment of desktop?04:55
RayFredPipany other ....?04:55
me2winand the type of programs it uses04:55
me2winthe programs are base don the environment though04:55
RayFredPipI am using ubuntu ,I want to use KDE environment ,so should I change my OS to Kubuntu?04:56
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dipnlikRayFredPip: install the kubuntu-desktop package04:57
mangustaWhere do I need to change to make kdm load as default window manager instead of gdm?04:57
RayFredPipUbugtu, is there any defrag software for linux?04:57
me2winwell the base of both is the ubuntu distribution. So you can either download a kubuntu iso and install fresh, or you can just get the kubuntu-desktop package, which will give you the KDE environment04:57
mangustaon startup it says, not starting gdm as it is not the default04:57
RayFredPipdipnlik, so it needn't to change OS04:58
me2winRayFredPip: no, the base is still ubuntu04:58
mangustaRayFredPip, just run apt-get install kubuntu-desktop04:58
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me2winkubuntu just packages KDE by default04:58
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RayFredPipOK!thank you all of you here who give me a lot of free hands!04:58
me2winno problem04:59
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RayFredPipme2win, does linux OS need some kind of defrag tool to do up disk ?05:01
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me2winnot sure what you mean05:02
RayFredPipme2win, I know in windows there should be have one ,while in linux ,is it necessary?05:02
me2windont think so05:03
me2wintry asking in #ubuntu05:03
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noteventimeRayFredPip, I dont think so05:04
noteventimeI don't think the filesystem can get fragmented, But I dont know :/05:04
me2winyeh05:04
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RayFredPipnoteventime, thank you!05:05
noteventimenp05:05
noteventimehas anyone tried the mood meter?05:05
me2winmood meter?05:06
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buzi dont think the moodbar stuff is available for kubuntu05:08
buzor at least i cant find it05:08
noteventimeOk05:08
noteventimeI'd like to try mood bar05:08
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noteventimeIts a cool idea05:08
RayFredPipnoteventime, what is the name of download software do you use?05:09
mangustaargh, can't get vpn client to work05:09
buzi cant say i like the new icons in amarok 1.4beta305:09
mangustajust sits there sayting connecting05:09
buzbut other than that, it's better than ever ;)05:09
mangustano messages, no errors, nothing05:09
mangustaanyone know of a working pptp vpn client?05:10
buzmhh what is the other endpoint?05:10
mangustapptp05:10
buzno further info?05:10
mangustanot sure of anything else05:10
noteventimeRayFredPip, peer 2 peer or for the browser?05:10
mangustanot really, thats all I normally have to set05:10
RayFredPipnoteventime, can flashget be uesd in ubuntu?05:11
mangustagah, stupid boss, puts bad data into the database, then bitches cause he only gets rubbish out05:11
noteventimeRayFredPip, The firefox extension?05:11
buzwhat is it with aptitude and it wanting to remove "orphaned" stuff upon upgrades?05:12
RayFredPipnoteventime, OK! I love firefox,it is wonderful!05:12
noteventime?05:12
me2winlol05:12
noteventimeRayFredPip, It was a queston :D Did you by flashget mean the firefox extension?05:13
noteventimeYay, replay gain for FireFox05:13
noteventimeamarok*05:13
noteventimehehe05:13
me2winlol05:14
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guillermitoHi, I cant find the config file of mi dhcpclient. Does anybody know where it is?05:15
guillermito*my05:15
noteventime /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf05:15
noteventimemaybe?05:15
me2winnoteventime: i cant believe how cool they made those wierd plasticy dudes look in the movie05:15
noteventimeThere is a silent hill movie?05:16
guillermitonoteventime: but... it is all comented :(05:16
guillermitodont understannd!05:16
me2winnoteventime: it comes out in a few weeks05:16
noteventimeTake a look at the other files in /etc/dhcp3?05:16
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guillermitowell noteventime is this sentence right ? "ddns-updates off"05:17
noteventimeme2win, Please till me it's not done by Uwe Boll05:17
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me2winLOL05:17
me2winno its not05:17
noteventimegood05:17
noteventimeguillermito, I'm sorry, I don't know. What is it that you are trying to do?05:17
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guillermitoI'm trying to desactive the dhcp client for the dns05:18
guillermitoy mean I want to put my own dns, y don want dynamic domain name server05:18
Kanohi Riddell , do you create also live cds?05:18
guillermitounderstandme?05:18
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noteventimeguillermito, Do it in /etc/networking/interfaces05:18
foobari want to burn some .mp3 files on a cd for playback in normal cd players. is k3b converting mp3 automaticly? if not - what do I have to do?05:19
guillermitolet's see05:19
noteventimefoobar, Maybe there is a "burn music cd" in k3b?05:19
foobaryes, there is - but does it convert the mp3 files ?05:19
foobardont want to waste my cds05:19
Kano!seen Riddell05:19
uboturiddell is currently on #kubuntu (4d 11h 38m 34s) #ubuntu (4d 11h 38m 34s)05:19
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guillermitonoteventime: how do I do it05:20
guillermitoI have no idea05:20
noteventimeguillermito, Is there any reason you can't do it graphically?05:20
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guillermitoI don't even know how to do it graphically05:21
noteventimekcontrol -> internet & network -> Network Settings05:22
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Kanois a kubuntu live cd maker here?05:23
foobarso noteventime: shall I just try it? isn't here anyone who did something like that before?05:23
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noteventimefoobar, I'm sorry, I don't even have a burner in my laptop (for some wierd reason)05:23
guillermitonoteventime: but there I cant desactive ddns05:24
noteventimeYou'll have to try or ask someone else05:24
foobarhmm, nevermind - thanks05:24
noteventimeguillermito, first press administrator mode, then Configure interface05:24
noteventimeThen choose static ip05:24
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guillermitoI see, but my problem is I want dynamic ip but not dynamic dns05:26
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noteventimeguillermito, I think you can manually specify DNS in another tab05:27
noteventimeYes, there is a tab called "Domain Name System"05:28
guillermitoyeah but there I dont know to desactive dynamic dns05:28
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gabiushow do i configure my sound with kubuntu?05:30
gabiusthe system did not found it automatically05:30
guillermitonoteventime: it's okay thanks becouse of the help05:31
guillermitoi think i'm trying it myself05:31
guillermitodont wanna waste your tim05:31
guillermitotime05:31
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noteventimeguillermito, Np, try to specify a DNS yourself and see if it works .)05:33
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noteventimeIt doesn't take much of my time :)05:33
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guillermitonoteventime: I've specifyed a DNS myself but when dhclient updates the DNS... the dns changes05:37
noteventimeThe only thing I can think of is specifying DNS in /etc/network/interfaces05:39
noteventimeAlthough I don't know how to do that05:39
noteventimeGoogle it :)05:40
foobarjust for the protocol: k3b seems to be clever enough to decode them, i'll report later if everything works like expected :)05:40
trappistyou do that in /etc/resolv.comf05:40
trappist*resolv.conf05:40
guillermitoyes05:41
lwizardlhow do i give full write access to a user ?05:42
guillermitoi change the dns in /etc/resolv.conf but as I said when the dhcp client updates the dns changes the /etc/resolv.conf file05:42
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zmoguillermito: you can supersede dhcp options in /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf05:43
vijayhi all, how to give /URL-path  in "Alias /URL-path /location_of_folder/"05:44
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OdyXHey. Somebody made ifplugd work on a laptop ?05:47
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noteventimeOdyX, ifplugd?05:52
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noteventimeRoaming support?05:52
noteventimeIf ifplugd is what i think it is i suggest you use network-manager-kde05:53
OdyXwell...05:55
OdyXI have fixed IP in eth05:55
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OdyXand I would like kubuntu to $ sudo ifdown eth0 when I unplug the cable.05:56
noteventimeOdyX, network-manager-kde will do that05:57
noteventimeAlso works for wifi05:57
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lwizardlhow do i give my user account full write access ? some of my folders are root only writable it seems. Won't let me make any folders or place files into the folder06:01
Kamping_Kaiserlwizardl: chmod and chown06:02
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lwizardlKamping_Kaiser: explain please ?06:03
walterjust installed kubuntu from ubuntu and can't find multimedia codecs to play wmv,asf,mpeg videos help...06:04
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Kamping_Kaiser!restrictedformats06:05
ubotuI heard restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats06:05
Kamping_Kaiserlwizardl: you should open a terminal and type in 'sudo chown yourname.yourname' to make the files owned by you, or 'sudo chmod ???' to make the files editable by you06:05
Kamping_Kaiser??? are replaced with numbers06:05
guillermitobye bye guys06:06
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lwizardlso like suo chmod 777 but wouldn't i have to do that on all the folders ?06:06
OdyXnoteventime: i have the networkmanager, but I don't get how it is supposed to work with my fixed IP.06:06
OdyXand how to configure.06:06
OdyXit06:06
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noteventimeIt worked just by inatslling for me, but on the other hand I don't have a static ip06:07
noteventimes/intsliing/installing06:07
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OdyXhum. I don't get where I can configure it really... because I can nowhere say which interface it has to manage, for ex.06:09
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noteventimeOdyX, It handles all interfaces06:17
OdyXnoteventime: yeah, certainly, but how is it configurable...06:17
OdyXnoteventime: I want precise IP, gateway and disconnecting way...06:18
noteventimeIt isn't you use kcontrol for that06:18
noteventimeThen let network-manager ifup and ifdown you06:18
OdyXit comes then in /etc/network/interfaces ?06:18
OdyXbut where can I talk to network-manager ?06:19
noteventimeIts in the system tray06:19
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OdyXnoteventime: I see that... but I cannot configure it at all... activating WiFi, disactivating WiFi, and no more...06:21
noteventimeOdyX, You cant configure network-manager06:21
noteventimeThere is nothing to configure06:21
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noteventimeYou use the kcontrol module06:21
OdyXfor fixed...06:21
OdyXOK...06:22
noteventimeor system settings06:23
OdyXbut my network does not go down when I unplug (physically) my eth' cable.06:23
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noteventimeNot?, Thats strange06:23
OdyXwell.. AFAIK, it doesn't06:23
OdyXjust tried rapid test... ping'ing in one console... and sudo ifdown eth0     then sudo ifup eth0  in another06:26
OdyXduring disconnection, ping gave me "ping: sendmsg: Network is unreachable"06:27
OdyXthen, I unplugged the cable, and my pings were simply lost...06:28
OdyXso it's not what should happen if my eth had been disconnected.06:28
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noteventimeOdyX, I'm sorry... Mine works like a charm so I don't know what the problem could be06:34
OdyXnoteventime: OKay...06:35
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OdyXnoteventime: thanks indeed06:35
cycus_zwisushello06:35
noteventime'ello06:35
cycus_zwisushow to make kubuntu use nuvola icons in gtk2 applications?06:35
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nxv_what to do if flgrxinfo doesn't show the correct graphic card type?06:41
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lwelynSeveas: how long will the bann for nothing last ?06:57
lwelynSeveas: i just want to tell you that i reported this.06:57
lwelynSeveas: A kickbann without any reason...well see..06:57
robotgeeklwelyn: i don't see it in #kubuntu, maybe better for you to take it in /msg?06:58
lwelyniam sorry robotgeek .06:59
robotgeeklwelyn: np06:59
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duckdownCan someone please tell me an IRC client for X that can actually handle ANSI escape codes?  XChat and kVirc are utterly useless07:00
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robotgeekduckdown: not sure what you mean, but try konversation also :)07:00
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duckdownrobotgeek: Like the ^[ ANSI escape codes (They're used to colorize stuff, mainly in my eggdrops)07:01
lwelynduckdown: and irssi :D07:01
noteventimeduckdown, Have you tried konversation?07:01
duckdownlwelyn: Heheh yea, I like irssi, but I'm on over 20 channels, its annoying not being able to click tabs07:01
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lwelynhehe..okay..thats a good argument against it07:02
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duckdownnoteventime: I tried it, but there was no Proxy support I thought07:02
noteventimeAre you using KDE?07:02
duckdownYes sir, Kubuntu Dapper6 :)07:02
noteventimeIt uses global KDE settings07:02
noteventimeIN kcontrol07:02
duckdownAhh, okay, right on07:02
duckdownThanks man, let me give it a shot..07:03
noteventimenp :)07:03
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SomefilenameAnyone tried to make KDE look like Mac OS X before?07:03
duckdownblasphemy07:04
duckdown:P07:04
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Somefilenameduckdown, Blasphemy?07:05
me2winSomefilename: many people07:05
robotgeekSomefilename: someone had done it, google it :)07:05
Somefilenamerobotgeek, No - I made it too - using some photos - I just want to know how many people tried to make Kubuntu(because I couldn't).07:05
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me2winSomefilename: everyone has done it really, there is even the Baghira package that does it entirely07:06
Somefilenameme2win, I'm not talking about running an application to support all the images and fonts...07:06
Somefilenameme2win, That's extra RAM and CPU usage.07:06
robotgeekSomefilename: then how else would you do it?07:07
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Somefilenamerobotgeek, I told you - some photos(big, small, medium) and KDE 3.5.1.07:07
me2winwhat?07:07
TheNightRider``uhh07:07
TheNightRider``hey all07:07
TheNightRider``got another prob here07:08
robotgeekSomefilename: hm, okay. not interested though :)07:08
robotgeek!enter07:08
ubotuPlease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.07:08
robotgeekTheNightRider``: that said, go ahead :)07:08
duckdownHrmm, can I move the tabs from the bottom of the screen in Konversation?  Every single channel looks like 3 '...' cause I'm on so many of them.07:08
TheNightRider``anyone know how to "fill" an mp3 player in kubuntu?07:08
duckdownLike from the bottom to the left of the screen07:08
robotgeekduckdown: look in preferences/tabs, should be there somewhere07:09
robotgeekTheNightRider``: just copying the mp3 files doesn't work?07:09
SomefilenameTheNightRider``, If you have problems with Kubuntu - don't use it anymore - use Slackware. :)07:09
TheNightRider``heh07:09
TheNightRider``is it better?07:09
TheNightRider``robotgeek, it doesnt detect it07:09
duckdownrobotgeek: yeah I'm looking :(07:10
robotgeekTheNightRider``: hmm, can you type "dmesg | tail -f -" in a terminal, and then unplug/plug it back in07:10
TheNightRider``ill try07:10
SomefilenameTheNightRider``, Hell yeah it's better - it's more close to the BSD system rather than the original Debian Linux.07:11
=== Somefilename loves all BSD family systems - including Darwin and Mac OS
TheNightRider``so now what?07:11
robotgeekTheNightRider``: what message do you get? can you pastebin?07:12
TheNightRider``with the command?07:12
TheNightRider``sure07:12
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TheNightRider``http://pastebin.com/65172007:13
TheNightRider``here07:13
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robotgeekTheNightRider``: hmm, that did not work for some reason. (errors and stuff)07:14
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TheNightRider``hmm07:15
TheNightRider``so nothing can be done?07:15
robotgeekTheNightRider``: can you just try dmesg | tail07:15
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TheNightRider``http://pastebin.com/65172607:16
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Kev1ni am using dapper.. usb problems. lsusb freezes ... lspci is fine any ideas07:16
robotgeekTheNightRider``: interesting, what mp3 player is this?07:17
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TheNightRider``neo07:18
TheNightRider``very cheap07:18
TheNightRider``stolen too07:18
TheNightRider``lol07:18
TheNightRider``:D07:18
robotgeek!enter07:18
ubotuPlease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.07:18
TheNightRider``sorry07:18
robotgeek:)07:18
TheNightRider``so any ideas?07:19
robotgeekTheNightRider``: it works fine in other OS?07:19
TheNightRider``well07:20
TheNightRider``windows couldnt detect it07:20
TheNightRider``so i tried here07:20
SomefilenameTheNightRider``, Can you repeat the question again please - I was kind of away.07:20
TheNightRider``well07:20
TheNightRider``i got an mp3 player07:20
TheNightRider``a friend sold it to me07:20
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TheNightRider``sorry for the enter again07:20
TheNightRider``uhh, so neither windows nor linux detects it07:20
SomefilenameTheNightRider``, MP3 player? What does that have to do with Kubuntu or KDE?07:20
robotgeekTheNightRider``: it does say error, "ibm_acpi: ec object not found" which is the USB module, i think07:20
TheNightRider``yeah i thought so too07:21
SomefilenameTheNightRider``, Ohh, now I think I get it - you can do transfer via USB to the player.07:21
SomefilenameRight?07:21
TheNightRider``yeah07:21
TheNightRider``i cant transfer07:22
SomefilenameTheNightRider``, No?07:22
TheNightRider``if i could i wouldnt be here07:22
robotgeekTheNightRider``: :)07:22
TheNightRider``it works fine at my friend's house tho o.007:22
SomefilenameTheNightRider``, Just mount it.07:22
TheNightRider``how?07:22
TheNightRider``i missed that part07:22
SomefilenameTheNightRider``, mount /dev/sda(usualy sda) /mnt/sda07:22
SomefilenameTheNightRider``, Mount it if Kubuntu didn't do it automatly.07:23
robotgeekSomefilename: however, i don't think that it's actually loading the USB device07:23
TheNightRider``mount: you must specify the filesystem type07:23
Somefilenamerobotgeek, It worked for me - I tried 5 different deviceds.07:23
TheNightRider``hmm07:23
TheNightRider``what do you think i should enter?07:23
SomefilenameTheNightRider``, Sorry, my bad - mount -t vfat [..] 07:24
robotgeekTheNightRider``: usually vfat, i tjink07:24
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TheNightRider``mount: mount point media/sda does not exist07:25
TheNightRider``hmm07:25
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TheNightRider``oops07:25
TheNightRider``wait07:25
TheNightRider``my bad07:25
robotgeekTheNightRider``: try pmount :)07:25
dark_suic_ZZZTheNightRider``,create the folder :P07:25
me2winseems to me like robotgeek doesnt know what hes talking about...07:26
me2win:D kidding07:26
me2winrobotgeek ftw07:26
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robotgeekme2win: with pmount, it creates the mount point automgically, based on device name (etc etc)07:26
me2winoic07:27
TheNightRider``oh for fuck sake...07:27
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robotgeekTheNightRider``: please mind you language07:27
SomefilenameBack.07:27
SomefilenameTheNightRider`` , Made it work yet?07:27
me2winlol, you can tell the people who are extremely new to the chans07:27
TheNightRider``well i cant make the folder o.007:28
TheNightRider``wtf07:28
dark_suic_ZZZTheNightRider``,try with sudo?07:28
SomefilenameTheNightRider``, What do you mean you can't make the folder?07:28
dark_suic_ZZZtried with sudo?07:28
TheNightRider``how can i make folders with konsole07:28
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SomefilenameTheNightRider``, sudo mkdir /mnt/mp307:28
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TheNightRider``oooh mkdir07:28
SomefilenameTheNightRider``, Then mount /dev/sda /mnt/mp307:29
SomefilenameUse -t vfat if you are not using your MP3 player as a live Linux system - like I do. :)07:29
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TheNightRider``omg07:30
TheNightRider``mount: special device /dev/sda does not exist07:30
SomefilenameTheNightRider``, You can use ntfs, vfat, etc depending on what type of filesystem the drive supports.07:30
SomefilenameTheNightRider``, What the fuck?! Check /dev07:30
robotgeekTheNightRider``: yes, that will work only if it has been detect07:30
TheNightRider``hahaha07:30
kubawelcome all07:30
TheNightRider``nice07:30
robotgeekSomefilename, please mind you language07:30
Somefilenamerobotgeek, Oh, sorry.07:30
=== Somefilename shame on him
me2winTheNightRider``: what sda number is it07:31
me2winsda1 sda207:31
SomefilenameTheNightRider``, Use sda1 or sda2.07:31
robotgeekTheNightRider``: ls -l /dev/sd*07:31
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kuba"no rules to make `include/linux/autoconf.h', needed by `include/config/MARKER'. Stop." - does anyone know what the hell is that or better yet what to do with it?07:31
Somefilenamekuba, What are you trying to compile?07:32
robotgeekkuba: what are you trying to do?07:32
dark_suic_ZZZkuba, what are you trying to do?07:32
kubaLinksys WRT54G software07:32
robotgeekhaha07:32
TheNightRider``ls: /dev/sd*: No such file or directory07:32
TheNightRider``ah.07:32
Somefilenamekuba, sudo apt-get install autoconf07:32
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tristanmikeCin: please turn off away messages07:32
robotgeekkuba: sudo apt-get install build-essential07:32
kubaerm, you're joking, that can't be it... but I'll try07:32
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dark_suic_ZZZwell, it's possible, but it will be hard having that he has been able to do make :P07:33
Somefilenamekuba, If you think I am joking than that' it.07:33
dark_suic_ZZZit may be some libs though07:33
TheNightRider``Somefilename, any ideas?07:34
kubawell, nope, I have that installed.  And yes, I have [just compiled and installed make 3.81]  and so forth...07:34
TheNightRider``i guess nothing works with me, eh :/07:34
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dark_suic_ZZZTheNightRider``, have you tried mounting it with sudo?07:34
SomefilenameTheNightRider``, Try sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/mp307:34
dark_suic_ZZZsudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /media/sda?07:34
TheNightRider``i did with root07:34
SomefilenameTheNightRider``, Use sda1.07:35
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TheNightRider``nope07:36
TheNightRider``didnt work07:36
TheNightRider``again o.007:36
me2winTheNightRider``: do sudo fdisk -l07:36
me2winsee what volumes you have07:36
Somefilenamekuba, Try this http://freshmeat.net/articles/view/889/07:36
dark_suic_ZZZand well, if the problem is that the device is directly not detected?07:36
dark_suic_ZZZwe're hitting blank points if the device is not connected07:36
dark_suic_ZZZdetected*07:36
Wizz_Kiddwhats a good looking and cheap CPU case07:36
kubaoh my, it's so short and all ;) Thanks, I'll go and try it then...07:37
TheNightRider``Somefilename, here -> http://pastebin.com/65176807:37
Somefilenamekuba, Did it work by installing autoconf?07:37
me2winTheNightRider``: whats that the output of?07:38
dark_suic_ZZZTheNightRider``, your device is not detected07:38
dark_suic_ZZZwhat does lsusb show?07:38
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SomefilenameTheNightRider``, That's great - it means that sda is the mp3 player. :)07:38
kubaSomefilename: I have autoconf installed...07:38
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TheNightRider``oh07:39
Tonio_hey07:39
TheNightRider``really?07:39
TheNightRider``heh, nice07:39
TheNightRider``soo what do i do now?07:39
Somefilenamekuba, Try searching for the error message, maybe you will be directed to a forum where people had similar problems.07:39
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SomefilenameTheNightRider``, Maybe this will clear things out for you http://experts.about.com/q/Unix-Linux-OS-1064/mount-usb-pen-drive.htm07:40
me2winTheNightRider``: whats the output of lsusb07:40
TheNightRider``i dont know, im kinda noob here07:41
TheNightRider``:)07:41
TheNightRider``damn, i gotta go07:41
TheNightRider``talk to u guys later :)07:41
Wizz_Kiddhows does wine compare to cedega07:44
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SomefilenameWizz_Kidd, I go for Wine because it's free.07:44
me2wincedega is a fork of wine07:44
tristanmikeWizz_Kidd: wine is free, cedega is not07:45
SomefilenameWizz_Kidd, But I think Cedega is more for games.07:45
kubadarn, I can't find a solution reading that page you gave me. I've found a few patches [they're very popular upon googling for autoconf +MARKER] ... Maybe that's a solution?07:45
me2winand that07:45
tristanmikeWizz_Kidd: wine is command line, cedega has a gui07:45
Somefilenamekuba, Try.07:45
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Somefilenametristanmike, Are you afraid of the command line?07:45
lasindi[lappy] Where is the actual trash directory stored in Kubuntu?07:45
trappistwhy is everything frickin written in python.07:46
tristanmikeSomefilename: when it comes to games....yes!07:46
Somefilenamelasindi[lappy] , Check the system directory.07:46
Somefilenametristanmike, You don't run games in command line - what's the problem in typing wine somefilename.exe -opengl?07:46
tristanmikeSomefilename: I just want to click my dang game and play it, I don't mind the command line to compile, but no, I don't want to use it specifically07:47
kubaya, just tell me how :) I've never mastered this patching business...07:47
lasindi[lappy] Somefilename: what do you mean by the "system directory?"07:47
tristanmikeSomefilename: besides, he asked how they compare, and that is one way they compare07:47
Kev1ni am using dapper.. usb problems. lsusb freezes ... lspci is fine    ....    any ideas07:47
kubaSomefilename: actually I just need to know where to run the patch from...07:47
robotgeektrappist: hmm, why is that a problem :)07:48
Somefilenamelasindi[lappy] , Search for a directory called "System" - I don't remember where it's located in Kubuntu, maybe the Desktop (that's /home/user/Desktop).07:48
trappistrobotgeek: I dislike python.07:48
Wizz_Kiddhave any of you ever used wine for games ?07:48
tristanmikeI use Cedega07:48
trappist<-- ruby guy07:48
Wizz_Kiddi have it 2 im jus wonderign is wine will also do the trick07:48
Wizz_KiddRUBY is great my fav07:48
robotgeekKev1n: is this flight 6? or breezy ?07:48
kubalook at this: http://lkml.org/lkml/2005/9/6/173 will it do?07:48
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Somefilenamekuba, I'm reading it...07:49
Wizz_Kiddme = ruby + qt bindings/kde bindings or RubyGTK07:49
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Somefilenamekuba, Patching means recompiling the kernel...ready?07:49
kubaerm, nope07:49
Wizz_Kidddoes QT make Native system calls on windows07:49
lasindi[lappy] Somefilename: I think I found it: ~/.local/share/Trash/files07:50
robotgeekkuba: why would you need to do that for user software?07:50
Wizz_Kiddnever tried it07:50
robotgeekkuba: link to what you are trying to compile please?07:50
Somefilenamelasindi[lappy] , Ok - but I forgot to tell you that it comes as a bar applet. :)07:50
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kubaI don't know that's why I'm asking. Link in a sec...07:51
Somefilenamekuba, Hmm, try to install linux-headers.07:51
Somefilenamekuba, It might help - without recompiling the kernel.07:51
kubaSomefilename: got it07:52
Somefilenamekuba, Hmmm...07:52
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kubaI write in C/C++ so I've got what's needed to compile it... However I never seem to be able to actually MAKE something :)07:52
Somefilenamekuba, Can you print the error message again please?07:53
kubarobotgeek: ftp://ftp.linksys.com/opensourcecode/wrt54g/4.20.9-SC/WRT54G_v4.20.9_SC.tgz07:53
Somefilenamekuba, Oh, writing in C? Nice to mee you. :)07:53
kubaSomefilename: You too :)07:54
me2winc++ ftw07:54
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kubaSomefilename: make[2] : *** Brak regu do zrobienia obiektu `include/linux/autoconf.h', wymaganego przez `include/config/MARKER'. Stop.07:54
kubaarm, sorry07:54
Somefilenamekuba, As every educated Linux user, yes, I program in C too. :)07:54
kubatranslating... :)07:54
kubaSomefilename: make[2] : *** no rules to make object `include/linux/autoconf.h', needed by `include/config/MARKER'. Stop.07:54
robotgeekkuba: how big is this again :)07:55
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kubarobotgeek: ~180MB? :)07:55
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robotgeekkuba: i'm not downloading 180 MB, sorry :)07:56
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kubarobotgeek: no problem, I never thought you will07:56
robotgeekkuba: i just wanted to read the README file :)07:56
Somefilenamekuba, Well - I might find a solution for you.07:56
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Somefilenamekuba, Since you are a C programmer you can translate the patching file into shell code, right? :)07:57
SomefilenameI mean, that's what I would to if I was you.07:57
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Somefilenamekuba, Also - the good and informing comments help a lot in such way you can you "translate" words in to shellcode.07:58
kubaSomefilename: well, I don't know really. I needed a patch at the begining of the compilation so I just read it and made the changes myself but that was a few lines of things I understood07:58
BambinoHow do i reinstall konsole? and how to I update my Konversation?07:59
kubathis patch is, well, murky? :)07:59
SomefilenameBambino, If you are running Konversation 0.18 you can upgrade it from the official site not from the repository. For konsole to "sudo apt-get install konsole".07:59
tristanmikeBambino: the only way to "update" an application to the most recent version is to compile it. Ubuntu version freezes for each release07:59
tristanmikeBambino: you get security fixes, but not version upgrades08:00
kubaSomefilename: don't treat me as a linux user - I'm a newbie at linux. I just know some C :)08:00
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Zico|Hello. Have anyone tried using Asus WL-167G usb dongle with kubuntu?08:00
Somefilenamekuba, You mean you don't do C for Linux...? :(08:00
Bambinotristanmike: Oh ok. cause i cant move the bubble thing in Konversation. its stuck somehow08:01
tristanmike...konversation bubble thing ? what do you mean ?08:01
SomefilenameBambino, I told you how to upgrade Konversation to the last version (0.19).08:01
BambinoSomefilename: Yes thanks08:01
kubaSomefilename: actually, I write under linux but not really for linux - mostly for pleasure and school ;] 08:01
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kubaI'm learning linux by the way but it's very disencouraging this make-ing - it never freakin' works :)08:02
Somefilenamekuba, And like I still see myself begging the computer class teacher to teach me C for Windows(I only know C#, Java, etc for Windows, but no C or C++).08:02
SomefilenameEither the teacher doesn't want to learn me or she doesn't know it...08:02
tristanmike"doesn't want to *teach* me"  ... not "learn me"08:03
kubaTake a book and teach yourself then :)08:03
Somefilenametristanmike, Sorry for the typos - but I really don't know how it bothers you.08:03
Somefilename:|08:04
tristanmikeSomefilename: the usage of "teach" and "learn" is a big pet peave of mine :P08:04
BambinoSomefilename: Can i uninstall Konsole?08:04
trappisttristanmike: peeve08:04
tristanmiked'on!08:04
trappist:)08:04
tristanmiked'oh08:04
tristanmikedamn you trappist !08:04
trappistthat'll learn ya08:04
tristanmikeLOL08:05
SomefilenameBambino, sudo apt-get remove konsole - but I don't know if konsole will go down alone.08:05
BambinoSomefilename: The thing is, i updated KDE frmo 3.4 to 3.5 and then i lost files, so i cant configure Konsole anymore08:05
kubarobotgeek: you still here?08:05
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SomefilenameBambino, What do you mean you can't configure konsole?08:06
trappistBambino: that bug exists only in the breezy 3.5 packages.  it works in dapper.08:06
trappistBambino: if you know somebody running dapper you can get the missing .la file from them08:06
kubathis is the readme:08:07
Bambinotrappist: Yes, I got the 2 files that is missing. Except now its asking me for a libpng.so.308:07
kubaTo build the router:08:07
BambinoSomefilename: It misses files when i try to konfigure KOnsole08:07
kuba o Follow the instructions in the tools/ directory to install the toolchain08:07
kuba o Ensure the tools in the release/tools directory are in your path08:07
kuba o cd release/src08:07
kuba o type 'make'08:07
kubahope I won't get kicked08:07
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Bambinotrappist: Any idea why it keeps telling me that it needs files?08:08
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SomefilenameBambino, Change to the Dapper repository and emerge the new Konsole.08:08
trappistBambino: there should only have been one missing file.  I assume you made some replacement or upgrade that has a libpng dependency that you don't meet.  if you only replace the kcmkonsole.la (I think that's the file) you should be fine.08:09
trappistBambino: or, you could upgrade to dapper08:09
trappistSomefilename: emerge?08:09
Somefilenametrappist, Emerge using APT or Adept, yes.08:09
BambinoOk thanks guys08:09
trappistSomefilename: apt doesn't emerge - gentoo does that08:09
kubaSomefilename: so what would you recommend?08:09
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Somefilenametrappist, Then I must have got some words on my "Linux life". :)08:10
Somefilenamekuba, I'm searching some more, and I think recompiling the kernel with the patch is the only option.08:10
kubaSomefilename: but..... I like my kernel... It's so, well, working? :)08:11
kubaand if I try to recompile I'll need to reinstall08:12
Somefilenamekuba, You don't use a different kernel - it's the same one - plus you will discover that you can tweak it for better use.08:12
Somefilenamekuba, No - recompiling the kernel is recompiling the kernel.08:12
kubaSomefilename: I meant: if I try to recompile the kernel I'll end up reinstalling...08:13
Somefilenamekuba, Probably - but you can chroot and APT a new kernel or the same kernel.08:13
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Bambinoanother queston for you guys. When I open konquerer, it opens 2 extra tabs in knqueror (really annoying when i wanna close it and it keeps asking me if i wanna close all tabs, and i dont want to turn of the alert when it alerts for tabs)... Any ideas?08:14
SomefilenameBambino, Are you thinking at a reinstall?08:14
kubaSomefilename: but why is this not working? what's wrong?08:15
Somefilenamekuba, The patch...08:15
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BambinoSomefilename: I dont know, maybe its a setting? Cause i had errors in KDE3.5 so iuninstalled it and installed kubuntu. and now konqueror opens 2 tabs extra always08:15
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SomefilenameBambino, Does that make you feel uncomfy?08:15
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buzam i the only ones having issues with printing as of today?08:16
BambinoSomefilename: Its just annoying when i wanna open konqueror fast and close it. cause then the alert asks me "do you wanan close all tabs"  :;)08:16
Somefilenamekuba, Check your kernel version - get the patch for the kernel - install the kernel source packages(if not installed) and recompile.08:16
buzthere was a cups update today in dapper, right?08:16
Somefilenamebuz, I never had problems with printing - don't know about someonme else.08:16
buzSomefilename: on breezy or dapper?08:17
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Somefilenamebuz, Slackare.08:17
SomefilenameSlackware*08:17
SomefilenameBambino, Close one tab only.08:17
buzwell thats not really representative here i guess08:17
tmdx120hello all.08:17
kubaSomefilename: how do I check it? I know it shows upon boot but surely there's a way to just check it08:17
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Somefilenamebuz, No - but the "K" infront of "ubuntu" is pretty representative for me.08:18
tmdx120hey beefsprocket, hey noteventime08:18
tilixbuz: i`ve read something on planet.kde.org about kprint breaking with the new cups08:18
noteventime'ello tdmx12008:18
buztilix: yes they fixed that last week08:18
buznow nothing at all works as of today08:18
Somefilenamekuba, "uname -s".08:18
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BambinoSomefilename: As i am new to linux, i am not sure how to install konversation. I downloaded it and untared it. I am in the folder. now what?08:18
buzthank god i got a PS2 capable printer, so i can just do cat > usblp0 lol08:19
noteventimeBambino, Its installed by default :)08:19
SomefilenameBambino, Get the Debian binaries instead.08:19
BambinoSomefilename: Oh ok08:19
Somefilenamenoteventime, He wants the 0.19 version.08:19
noteventimeohh08:19
Bambino:)08:19
noteventimeSorry didn't read all of it :)08:19
kubaSomefilename: It says "Linux"08:19
Somefilenamekuba, Use "uname -a". :)08:19
noteventimeI have 0.19, and it was installed by default :S Must be dapper08:20
kubaSomefilename: 2.6.12-10-386?08:20
Somefilenamenoteventime, Dapper, I guess..08:20
Somefilenamekuba, Yeah - that means that the kernel is 2.6.12 for the i386 platform.08:20
kubaand that means that...?08:21
Somefilenamekuba, That you need to chose the patch for kernel 2.6.12.08:21
BambinoSomefilename: I cant really say i can see where to download the 0.19 for debian. and I am using breezy ;)08:21
kubaSomefilename: what's the chance of fuc*ing up my system if I choose to patch? :)08:21
Somefilenamekuba, None - I told you, you can use chroot to recover your kernel.08:22
Somefilenamekuba, Read kernel recompiling and patch adding howto.08:22
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kubaSomefilename: oh, where's that? On that [k] ubunt howto site?08:22
Somefilenamekuba, Usualy goes like a normal compilation but you need to configure it.08:22
Somefilenamekuba, I don't know - I'm not interestedin Kubuntu anymore - check Google.08:23
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Somefilenameinterested*08:23
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SomefilenameBambino, Konversation didn't came in Slackware 10.2 - nor on Slackware-current "repository", maybe it is under testings or so.08:24
BambinoSomefilename: I am using ubuntu08:24
SomefilenameBambino, XChat is more recomended in Ubuntu.08:25
BambinoSomefilename: Oh?08:25
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bipolar I installed network-manager-kde but it says that network-manager is not running. the package network-manager is installed, but I don't know what else I need to do.08:27
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Somefilenamebipolar, Maybe network-manager is not really running.08:28
bipolarSomefilename: thats what I thought, but it's started with dbus, right?08:28
Somefilenamebipolar, dcop08:28
bipolardoh....08:29
frost_hey, um TheNightRider sent me.. i was wondering about the auto-mount script for an ntfs partition..08:29
kubaSomefilename: so what you're running?08:29
Somefilenamefrost_, There's not automount script - it's /etc/fstab configuration fiel.08:29
Somefilenamekuba, Slackware.08:29
bipolarSomefilename: does that mean it should be in the kde componants section of system settings?08:30
Somefilenamebipolar, Make a script to run network-manager once the computer has started.08:30
kubaI'll always wanted to try Slackware out but never actually did it08:30
Somefilenamekuba, It's best!08:31
Somefilenamethe*08:31
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robotgeekkuba: back08:31
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SomefilenameTrue distributions: Slackware and Debian(but PURE Debian not debian-based).08:31
bipolarSomefilename: isn't there a script for it already?08:32
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SomefilenameDebian was pretty big(I could get the first CD only) but I found the Slackware ISOs on my network and I tought of not losing time.08:32
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robotgeekbipolar: chekc the wiki on howto start network manager, etal08:32
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Somefilenamebipolar, If it didn't come with the system then why should it be?08:33
bipolarrobotgeek: the kubuntu wiki?08:33
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robotgeekbipolar: yeah, ubuntu wiki is the same as the kubuntu wiki :)08:33
bipolarSomefilename: if the program needs one shouldn't there be one in the package?08:33
kubaSomefilename: I can't recompile at the moment - too much to go wrong, to little time to repair. Maybe there's a LiveCD with a newer [patched?]  Kernel that I could use just to build this once?08:33
bipolarrobotgeek: thanks... I'll take a look08:33
Mezbipolar: it's the same wiki - it just uses a different skin08:33
Somefilenamebipolar, Don't ask me - I didn't make the compilation.08:33
kubaSomefilename: I mean ANY linux, not (k)ubuntu08:33
Somefilenamekuba, You can just emerge a new kernel.08:34
juliomamI would like to know how to use /dev/disk in KUbuntu. I saw a Debian system with that node, but my KUbuntu hasn't it.08:34
Somefilenamekuba, Check the Dapper kernel repository.08:34
robotgeekkuba: what are the requirements for compiling that? (kernel wise)08:35
Somefilenamejuliomam, What do you mean by "use /dev/disk"?08:35
kubaoh, I can 'upgrade' kernel from the Dapper repository?08:35
Somefilenamekuba, Ofcourse you do.08:35
juliomamThat node show ALL "hard disks" (usb, firewire, scsi, etc)08:36
robotgeeklater08:36
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kubarobotgeek: I don't seem to grasp what you're asking about... [sorry, I'm not native English] 08:36
DaSkreechkuba: This is revolt?08:36
robotgeekkuba: soryr, i gotta run. later08:36
Somefilenamejuliomam, Use "dmsg".08:36
BambinoI donwloaded the 0.19 konversation and I wanna install it, could not find anything for debian but i found the source code. I wanan compile it. How do I do that?08:36
Somefilenamedmesg*08:36
Somefilenamejuliomam, Sorry, I mean "dmesg".08:37
SomefilenameBambino, Cd to the directory and type "./configure".08:37
kubaDaSkreech: ? My english is either getting bad or I'm too tired08:37
juliomamOk... if I plug a sub stick, the partitions will be organized inside /dev/disk08:37
DaSkreechkuba: What were you talking about?08:38
DaSkreechkuba: I heard that Kubuntu was throwing a small revolt08:38
DaSkreechkuba: Sorry about the bad english08:38
kubahow's that?08:38
SomefilenameDaSkreech, Revolt?08:38
BambinoSomefilename: thanks08:39
kubaDaSkreech: My english seems to be worse08:39
SomefilenameBambino, Done that yet? No errors?08:39
BambinoSomefilename: its taking ages, its still compiling, idid not do it in sudo tho08:39
DaSkreechSomefilename: Yes08:39
SomefilenameBambino, You don't need "sudo" at "./confgiure", this is just the first step of compilation. :)08:40
SomefilenameDaSkreech, What's "revolt"?08:40
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SomefilenameBambino, Alert me when it's over.08:40
BambinoSomefilename: Now. it says i miss QTR08:40
BambinoQT*08:40
DaSkreechSomefilename: Some Kubuntu developers were going to drop support for Kubuntu if Canonical didn't pay attention to them08:40
SomefilenameBambino, You probably don't have the uptodate version of QT.08:40
SomefilenameDaSkreech, What is "revolt" anyways?08:41
BambinoSomefilename: so i need to update QT and do ./configure again?08:41
SomefilenameYes, Bambino, upgrade QT.08:41
SomefilenameBambino, sudo apt-get upgrade08:41
BambinoSomefilename: says I have the latest08:42
DaSkreechSomefilename: http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=revolt08:42
BambinoSomefilename: hecking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.2 and < 4.0) (library qt-mt) not found. Please check your installation!08:42
SomefilenameDaSkreech, Oh, sorry - I tought it was some kind of package. :)08:42
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DaSkreechNo I heard that Kubuntu was breaking up08:43
SomefilenameBambino, sudo apt-get install qt-mt08:43
SomefilenameDaSkreech, Really? Cool!08:43
DaSkreechSomefilename: For who?08:44
BambinoSomefilename: No such file ;)08:44
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SomefilenameDaSkreech, The Kubuntu developers are the same as the Ubuntu developers(maybe others but they certanly do the same thing) because Kubuntu is just Ubuntu with KDE - no big deal - even I can do that.08:45
SomefilenameBambino, sudo aptitude install qt-mt08:45
DaSkreechnot sure how true that is08:46
BambinoSomefilename: Nopsi, none works08:46
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SomefilenameBambino, Then you should stop thinking at Konversation and run XChat.08:46
BambinoSomefilename: Lol ;)08:46
kubaSomefilename: I got the dapper repositories - what was next? Emerge..? [sounds like gentoo] 08:46
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Somefilenamekuba, sudo apt-get updatew08:47
Somefilenamekuba, sudo apt-get update08:47
kubaSomefilename: you want me to update the whole system from Dapper? won't that break anything?08:47
Somefilenamekuba, No - update will download the keys and packages lists silly. :)08:48
Somefilenamekuba, Do update.08:48
kubaoh, sorry, I'm stupid08:49
kubayeah, It's updated08:49
kubalinux-image-xxxx?08:49
Somefilenamekuba, Try upgrade now and see if it has the linux-image for i386.08:49
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kubayeah it does08:49
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DaSkreechI have a question about that08:50
Somefilenamekuba, Then do "sudo apt-get install linux-image-386" or what other name is - copy and paste it from the upgrade list.08:50
DaSkreechIf I install a k7 Image08:50
DaSkreechwill it do auto upgrades on that?08:50
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faroushelp08:50
SomefilenameDaSkreech, It check for upgrades of files on your systems.08:50
SomefilenameDaSkreech, Probably yes.08:51
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DaSkreechSooo it would upgrade both kernels then?08:51
SomefilenameDaSkreech, Yep.08:51
DaSkreech386 and k708:51
DaSkreechah08:51
SomefilenameDaSkreech, There's not problem in that and I don't see why it shouldn't.08:51
DaSkreechso i'd have to remove the 386 kernel to avoid it doing stupid things :-(08:51
DaSkreechSlow net?08:51
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DaSkreechCan I freeze a package so that it doesn't upgrade?08:52
kubaSomefilename: linux-image-386 I have [2.6.12.16.1]  - However I see on this list a thing named: linux-image-2.6.15-20-38608:52
SomefilenameDaSkreech, I run 3 kernels. :)08:52
Somefilenamekuba, "sudo apt-get install linux-image-2.6.15-20-386".08:52
kubasorry for all the questions - I just dont want to scre something up ;)08:52
DaSkreechSomefilename: so you wouldn't mind downloading 5 every few days?08:52
SomefilenameDaSkreech, I compare them - I have an 2.6 mini - 2.6 i386 - 2.6 i686.08:53
vgeDaSkreech: you can have multiple kernels and at boot choose what it "initialize"08:53
vge*to08:53
SomefilenameI want to get the mach_kernel - but that would turn my system into Darwin. :)08:53
DaSkreechSomefilename: So You wouldn't mind downloading a K7 kernel ..even if you aren't going to use it?08:53
Wizz_Kiddwhy is my cups not working here on Kubuntu08:53
DaSkreechvge: I know My point is why download somethign you are never going to use?08:54
SomefilenameDaSkreech, No - there's not problem having multiple kernels.08:54
Wizz_Kiddi am using Dapper08:54
Wizz_Kiddis thier something wrong with cups in this version08:54
vgeDaSkreech: for testing purposes as he sayd?08:54
kubaSomefilename: in progress... I hope I won't crash anything ;)08:54
DaSkreechI don't have a problem with Multiple kernels :) Just with multiple kernels I'm never going to use08:54
DaSkreechI have an XGL and non XGL kernel setup now08:54
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SomefilenameWizz_Kidd, Check for patches.08:55
DaSkreechAs well as Xen kernel now that I think about it08:55
fairyhalo2girlhey anyone that has xbox live08:55
Wizz_KiddHalo 2 :P08:55
Somefilenamefairlyhalo2girl, No - we are not game enthusiasts.08:55
Wizz_Kiddbuuuut what do you mean check for patches08:55
vgeno, xbox dont have native linux support sry08:55
Vixiadowhat is the default root's password?08:55
fairyhalo2girland wants to have some fun ;) add pissweed to your xbox live and start talking dirty. I'm a halo 2 chick. I love a man that likes to play dirty.;) so add me.08:56
SomefilenameVixiado, There's not root password.08:56
vgeVixiado: first added user password is the sudo password08:56
SomefilenameVixiado, Use sudo and your own user password - it's the Debian way.08:56
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Vixiadoah ok08:56
Vixiadothanks...08:56
SomefilenameVixiado, If you want to se the password use "sudo passwd".08:56
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toxic_Is there a program/daemon out there that can listen to a log file and print it's output if it matches a certain string ?08:58
kubaSomefilename: Installing08:58
Somefilenamefairyhalo2girl, Do you really run Linux on your Xbox?08:58
kubaDo I need to reboot afterwards or something?08:58
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Somefilenamekuba, It's recomended.08:59
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SomefilenameWelcome back Bambino.08:59
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BambinoSomefilename: Thanks08:59
kubaSomefilename: OK, brb then. I hope :)08:59
Somefilenametoxi_, Yeah - it's called a robot and you have to program it yourself.08:59
Somefilenametoxic*08:59
toxic_Somefilename, doh :P09:00
BambinoSomefilename, took ur advice, using xchat09:00
BambinoSomefilename, I guess I need to actually learn to use it09:00
SomefilenameBambino, Great, great.09:00
SomefilenameBambino, It's not different - it's actually more advanced - and you don't need to resize the user list window. :)09:00
Somefilenametoxic_, See if eggdrop has those features09:01
BambinoSomefilename, Cool09:01
toxic_Somefilename, ok I'll look into it09:01
Somefilenametoxic_, If not, you can program it - it's easy - get the string, check the string, print to socket.09:02
SomefilenameTo the TCP socket, I mean.09:03
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toxic_Somefilename, I only see the IRC-bot eggdrop, is that what you meant ?09:04
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Somefilenametoxic_, I'm talking about programming an IRC bot yourself if eggdrop doesn't satisfy your needs.09:04
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toxic_Somefilename, yeah I could program it .. Bash wouldn't be nice to do it in , and I don't have time for c atm :P09:04
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toxic_Somefilename, I'm not looking for an ircbot though ..09:04
toxic_Somefilename, I want to look at /var/log/auth.log and have a program notify of any events which mathes a certain IP09:05
Somefilenametoxic_, You have a lot of options, and fast programming languages such as Perl.09:05
Somefilenametoxic_, You can make a Perl IRC bot in a couple of lines.09:05
toxic_Somefilename, yeah ..Not looking for irc bot :P09:05
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Somefilenametoxic_, In that case you run cron.09:05
Somefilenametoxic_, Google crond if you want more info - I ain't going to talk you about it. :)09:06
toxic_Somefilename, have cron schedule a script for me or ho do you mean ?09:06
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toxic_Somefilename, aight09:06
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Somefilenametoxic_, Yeah, make a cron script - always works for system administrators like you. ;)09:06
SomefilenameBrb.09:07
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slow-motionre09:07
toxic_Somefilename, ok thx for the tip09:07
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waspy|classhow do i set the default program to use when downloading from firefox?09:09
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Nicknamedamnit09:12
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NicknameAm I named Nickanme?09:13
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jeanafter installing kubuntu (from ubuntu) my screen resolution has changed and i cannot set it becaus the buttons are off the screen, any ideas?09:14
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SomefilenameBack.09:14
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Somefilenamejean, /etc/X11/xorg.conf09:15
kubaSomefilename: kubuntu died09:15
SomefilenameWelcome back kuba!09:15
kubayeah, hi  from windows ;)09:15
waspy|classhow do i set the default program to use when downloading from firefox?09:15
Somefilenamekuba, Oh damn, did you configure the bootloader?09:15
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kubaSomefilename: meaning? I just updated adn rebooted and now I have the new kernel upon boot but when I choose it I get a crash09:16
kubaand when I choose the previouis one I get seg faults09:16
frank23waspy|class: open with... ->other->chose the program  (in /usr/bin)09:17
Somefilenamekuba, What are you running LILO or Grub?09:17
kubagrub09:17
Somefilenamekuba, Can you drop into a console?09:17
waspy|classfrank23, is it posibe to set them up before i need to to it manualy?09:17
kubabusybox yes, recovery probbaly also09:17
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Somefilenamekuba, Enter that.09:18
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DjDarkmanhy ,is this normal?09:18
DjDarkmanroot      7496  5.7  8.5  92164 22060 ?        SL   13:25  30:26 /usr/X11R6/bin/X -nolisten tcp :0 vt7 -auth /var/run/xauth/09:18
frank23jean: you can't scroll to see the buttons?  anyways the console way is   xrandr  to get a list of possible resolutions and  xrandr -s ##  to switch to one09:18
kubaSomefilename and what next?09:18
kubaI don't have IRC there I think...09:19
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kubado I?09:19
Somefilenamekuba, Configure grub to boot into the new kernel.09:19
kuba:)09:19
frank23waspy|class: you have to set it up manually I think. but firefox will remember for next time09:19
kubaSomefilename: how? :(09:19
waspy|classfrank23, thanks09:19
Somefilenamekuba, Google it - I don't know - I use LILO.09:19
kubaSomefilename imagine what would have happened if I tried to recompile :)09:19
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Somefilenamekuba, Try this "/sbin/grub-install /dev/hda".09:20
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jeanhrm, my settings say im using 640*480 and only gives the option for 320*24009:20
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Somefilenamejean, Compile the needed drives to run 640x480 or higher.09:21
Somefilenamedrivers*09:21
frank23jean: you don't have anything higher than 640x480?09:21
jeanok, no..ut i did when i was using ubuntu(gnome)09:21
frank23!fixres09:22
ubotuPlease read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto09:22
kubaSomefilename: It isn't on hda I think... How can I check that? And why do I need to reinstall grub? I booted to windows OK...09:22
Somefilenamekuba, "cfdisk".09:22
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SomefilenameAnd tell me what you see as a Linux partition - usualy ext309:23
Somefilenamekuba, Also check /etc/grub.conf09:23
frank23kuba: the grub menu list is in /boot/grub/menu.lst09:24
kubaSomefilename: OK, I'll do that in a sec. But why do I need to do anything? apt did something with grub on the end...09:24
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waspy|classSomefilename: could the grup menu be rebuilt for kuba?09:24
Somefilenamekuba, It did?! Why didn't you told me?09:24
kubaSomefilename: I thought twas supposed to09:25
frank23kuba: what happened? new kernel not working?09:25
Somefilenamewaspy|class, Ofcourse, but I'm not verry familiar with GRUB and I don't relly know where the menulist conf file is.09:25
kubafrank23: ya09:25
Somefilenamekuba, "sudo apt-get install linux-kernel-I don't know-i386/sid".09:26
frank23kuba: and ubuntu is the only linux distribution you have installed?09:26
kubafrank23: yeah09:26
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kubaSomefilename: what's /sid?09:27
Somefilenamekuba, Downgrade.09:27
frank23kuba: was it just a minor update ( asecurity fix) why did you change kernel?09:27
kubaOK, so I just downgrade and don't touch grub?09:27
Somefilenamefrank23, There was a need of a kernel patch - he didn't chosed to recompile the kernel.09:27
kubaexactly :)09:27
Somefilenamekuba, Downgrading now?09:28
kubawell, if you say so - I have no idea what to do...09:28
kubaI need to reboot to do that09:28
kubais there an irc client in busybox?09:28
Somefilenamekuba, "sudo apt-get install linux-image-2.6.15-20-386/sid".09:29
frank23Somefilename: sid is not an ubuntu repo09:29
Somefilenamekuba, There is bitchX.09:29
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Somefilenamefranks23m What's "repo"?09:29
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frank23Somefilename: repository09:29
Somefilenamefranks23, I run Slackware.09:29
Somefilenamefranks23, But I use a similar program in Slackware called slapt-get.09:30
frank23Somefilename: and slackware uses the debian repository names?09:30
Somefilenamefranks23, It works here - it worked back on Kubuntu.09:30
Somefilenamefranks23, Ofcourse it doesn't.09:30
frank23Somefilename: then where does sid come from?09:30
Somefilenamefranks23, It's downgrade.09:31
Somefilenamefranks23, Theoretically it should downgrade if you use the "flag".09:31
frank23Somefilename: sarge, sid, etch  are debian versions. sid is testing right now09:31
Somefilenamefranks23, Really?09:32
frank23Somefilename: slapt-get must be using debian repositories09:32
Somefilenamefrank23, That would be bullshit - and I told you it worked for me back on Kubuntu.09:32
Somefilenamefrank23, And since I know nothing about Debian Sid I couldn't use the repositories.09:32
kubaok, Ill try the sid thing, brb09:33
frank23Somefilename: I don't see how that could possibly work for kubuntu unless you added debian repositories (sid) to your sources.list09:34
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Somefilenamefrank23, Well - I haven't and it worked.09:34
frank23Somefilename: was this using dapper?09:35
Somefilenamefrank23, Breezy.09:35
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SomefilenameI gotta go now.09:36
frank23Somefilename: I'd like to see the /etc/sources.list   that made that possible09:36
frank23Somefilename: I'd like to see the /etc/apt/sources.list   that made that possible09:36
Somefilenamefrank23, Tell kuba to edit the GRUB menulist if that didn't worked, ok?09:36
SomefilenameI'm off.09:36
frank23anyone else following this?09:37
Parkotronfrank23: I'm watching it, but I can say that I have a clue of what's going on.09:37
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ParkotronDoes anyone know how to disable icon stacking in the KDE3.5.2 systray?09:39
frank23Parkotron: not sure. I like it better this way. takes less space09:39
ParkotronIt's trying to put my icons into two rows, but there isn't enough room, so the bottom row is partly pushed off the bottom of my screen.09:40
Parkotronfrank23: I agree that it's a good feature, but it's making bad decisions here.09:40
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frank23Parkotron: yeah. it's fine with me but maybe it's making a dumb decision in your case09:41
ParkotronIf I shrink or increase the panel size, it figures things out.09:42
frank23Parkotron: you would think it would be in configure system tray but it isn't :(09:43
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kubaback09:44
kubarunning on some old kernel09:44
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gourdinhi there09:44
kubavery old...09:44
gourdindapper drake is the "unstable" one ?09:44
gourdin(I'm from debian)09:44
vgenot that unstable anymore, go for it i would say09:45
gourdinhmmm09:45
kubadonr go for it09:45
gourdin=)09:45
gourdinI'm using debian unstable, so =)09:45
kubafrank23: can you help me out here?09:45
gourdinI'm gonna read some docs ;)09:45
frank23gourdin: it's the development one. It depends but at times it's more like the experimental one09:45
gourdinfrank23: experimental ?!09:46
gourdinfrank23: ho09:46
frank23gourdin: debian has an exeprimental repository right?09:46
Chousukeyes.09:46
gourdinfrank23: yes, but I'm only using unstable one (sid)09:46
gourdinexperimental freaks me (do we says this in english?)09:47
frank23gourdin: isn't unstable etch right now?09:47
Chousukefrank23: no09:47
gourdinfrank23: ?09:47
gourdinfrank23: sid09:47
Chousukefrank23: etch is testing09:47
gourdinyep09:47
ChousukeBut in Debian, Unstable means that packages change often09:47
kubafrank23: The new kernel has fu**ed up everything - can I somehow 'go back'?09:47
gourdinhmmm09:47
ChousukeUnstable doesn't mean that stuff crashes a lot and won't work :)09:47
frank23kuba: which kernel are you using right now?09:47
kuba2.6.12.909:48
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ChousukeAnd using experimental is like picking your nose with a pitchfork. :)09:48
frank23kuba and 2.6.12-10 is the one that doesn't work?09:48
kubayeah, and that new 2.6.15.20 too....09:48
gourdinhmmm09:49
gourdinI only got 650Mo CDs09:49
gourdin:/09:49
frank23kuba: where did you get 2.6.15-20 from?09:49
kubaDapper repository09:49
frank23gourdin: those are useless for big images09:49
frank23kuba: and you're trying to run the dapper kernel in breezy?09:50
gourdinfrank23: I know ;)09:50
gourdinfrank23: I'm searching for small kubuntu isos09:50
gourdinfrank23: do they exist ?09:50
kubafrank23: erm, it would seem so. Somefilename said it's OK to do that....09:50
frank23gourdin: I got a bunch of those too that I bought by mistake09:50
kubaand I have foolishly listened09:50
frank23kuba: maybe it works I don't know.09:50
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kubafrank23: it doesn't09:51
frank23kuba: but unless you need a new feature, upgrading is useless09:51
kubafrank23: yea, I know, but I needed a thing. Nevertheless - I need a system more.09:51
frank23kuba: so 2.6.12-10 doesn't work either? it should09:51
kubafrank23: nope, upon boot it gives a lot of Segmentation faults and jumps to busybox09:52
kubaalso when I try to boot in recovery mode09:52
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frank23kuba: that's strange...    can you paste  /boot/grub/menu.lst  and  ls -l /boot  in pastebin?09:53
kubafrank23: yeah, gimme a sec09:53
frank23kuba: was breezy released with 2.6.12-9  I don't remember09:54
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kubayes09:54
kubathe one Im running now09:54
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frank23kuba: do you have modules you compiled yourself or something like that?09:55
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kubafrank23: nope09:55
vgewhere can i read more about modules?09:56
frank23kuba: vmware? weird hardware?09:56
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kubafrank23: nope, totally normal09:56
kubafrank23: you want me to paste this menu.lst crucial part here?09:56
frank23vge: google I guess.   modules are basically drivers09:56
frank23kuba: paste it in the pastebin09:56
kubafrank23: ?09:57
frank23 http://kubuntu.pastebin.com09:57
frank23!paste09:57
ubotuPlease don't flood the channel! For best results use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and tell people the URL09:57
kubaok09:57
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kubafrank23: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/65208009:59
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frank23kuba: I don't know... I don't why 2.6.12-9 would work and 2.6.12-10 not work10:01
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kubafrank23: I'll remove 2.6.15 and reinstal 2.6.1210:03
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kubacould that work?10:03
frank23kuba: you can try but it probably won't change anything.  reinstalls rarely change anything unless you muck around manually in the system10:04
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kubafrank23: OK, so if this won't work what options have I got? os reinstall?10:05
frank23kuba: not sure...  maybe try a dapper live cd and upgrade now if it works?  dapper is not released yet though...10:05
kubafrank23: upgrade?10:06
kubafrank23: is there a way to upgrade breezy to dappr?10:06
frank23kuba: I mean if the dapper live cd works, you could upgrade to dapper yeah.10:06
frank23!upgrade10:06
ubotuUpgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade.  Upgrading to dapper (remember it may break). Please test the dist-upgrader -> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html.10:06
kubafrank23: maybe I could try to download the newest kernel sources and go with the recompile?10:07
kuba*compile10:07
kubafrank23: that link's dead10:08
frank23kuba: you can try. I don't know how easy/hard that is10:08
frank23kuba: follow the breezyupgrade guide and change breezy to dapper instead of hoary to breezy10:08
kubafrank23: if I get a liveCD and run it, will there be an upgrade option or something?10:08
kubafrank23: I see10:08
frank23kuba: I don't think so...10:09
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kubafrank23: This page does not exist yet. You can create a new empty page, or use one of the page templates. Before creating the page, please check if a similar page already exists.10:09
J_H_DKhow come if i do the shell apt-get update it says 3 packages held back but if i use adept it updates those 3 files no problem ?10:09
kubafrank23: I got it10:09
frank23https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade10:09
MasterWolfdose anyone know were i can find the libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 package10:10
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frank23J_H_DK: adept does dist-upgrade  which are not the same as apt-get install upgrade10:10
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J_H_DKahh okay, is it more unsafe with adept then sinse it takes packages thats held back in normal apt-get ?10:11
frank23kuba: upgrading is always risky. you have to backup your data and assume that you may have to reinstall completely10:11
frank23J_H_DK: not really...  as long as you check the preview changes tab and make sure the removed packages look resonable. make sure you don't remove half your system ;)10:12
kubafrank23: that's bad. What about other partitions [especially the windows one - it has a LOT of valuable things] 10:13
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J_H_DKhehe ya, okay thanks for the info, was just wondering about it :)10:14
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frank23kuba: oh the upgrade won't touch the windows partition at all10:14
frank23kuba: you should STILL do backups if you have something valuable though because hard drives can still crash at anytime10:15
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elknof1hello10:15
MasterWolfI need so help, dose anyone know were i can find the libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 package10:16
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frank23kuba: if you reinstall ubuntu make sure you install it on the first hard drive (in your case)10:16
elknof1sorry but does anybody knows how to disable the click in the touch pad??10:16
frank23!info libstdc++2.10-glibc2.210:17
kubafrank23: how's that?10:17
ubotulibstdc++2.10-glibc2.2: (The GNU stdc++ library), section universe/libs, is optional. Version: 1:2.95.4-22 (breezy), Packaged size: 124 kB, Installed size: 372 kB10:17
frank23MasterWolf: enable the universe repository10:17
frank23!tell MasterWolf about sources10:17
frank23kuba: how's what?10:18
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kubafrank23: that first hard drive thing....10:19
vgeelknof1: sec10:19
kubafrank23: I'll just install it where it was10:19
frank23kuba: yeah that's what I meant. from your menu.lst I can see that your windows partition is on your 2nd hard drive10:19
me2winfrank23: is there a way to get an external IP through command line?10:20
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vgeelknof1: you mean, tap to click or to disable touchpad alltogether?10:20
elknof1Masterwolf: open the package manager, then in adept click manage repositories, clrear the # at the begining of the repository universe/libs, save, and type it in the filter10:20
elknof1no just disable the tapping10:21
vgeOption "maxtaptime" "0" add this to xorg.conf under touchpad10:21
elknof1where do I do that??10:21
elknof1i dont know how to use the terminal, is there a graphic way??10:22
vgeopen your konsole and type "sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf"10:22
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elknof1kate: ERROR: Communication problem with kate, it probably crashed.10:23
elknof1but its not10:23
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vgethen use vi or nano or something beside kate10:23
elknof1ok10:24
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frank23elknof1: kdesu kate is what you should use instead of sudo kate10:25
kubafrank23: should I comment out the breeze repositories or can I just add the dapper ones + upgrade?10:25
humehi... how do I do to run a script every time I start KDE?10:26
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vgefrank23: yes, my bad, dont use kate at all, just nano :/10:26
KyralVim...10:26
frank23kuba: change breezy to dapper.  but try a dapper live cd first. especially with the 2.6.15 kernel not booting10:26
elknof1thanks10:27
vgeis xorg.conf case sensitive?10:27
Kyralyes10:27
KyralBasically, in the Unix world10:27
vgei guess then the command "maxtaptime" aint10:27
Kyralassume case-sensitive unless told otherwise10:27
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kubafrank23: what will a livecd change?10:28
kubafrank23: I'm using kubuntu not ubuntu btw - hope this doesn't change much?10:28
frank23kuba: the live cd lets you check if dapper will boot on your computer.10:29
kubafrank23: ok, I'll download it. How does in check?10:30
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J_H_DKmy machine could boot from livecd but refused to boot from the installcd of dapper, i had to install 5.10 and do a dist-upgrade from that to get dapper installed, but now it works :)10:30
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frank23kuba: you burn the live cd and then boot from the live cd. (choose cdrom in the bios boot options10:31
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kubafrank23: damn, there's no LiveCD for kUbuntu...10:32
frank23kuba: yes there is10:33
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kubafrank23: where?10:33
naliothkuba: there IS a liveCD for kubuntu10:33
kubabut Dapper?10:33
DeluxXx__hey how can i reinstall my grub bootloader with the kubuntu dvd ?10:33
kubaI know there's a LiveCD for Breezy. What about Dapper?10:33
kubaI can't see it on the kubuntu.org10:33
frank23http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/dapper/flight-6/10:34
frank23!recover10:34
uboturecover is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows10:34
frank23DeluxXx__: ^^10:34
kubafrank23: Oh, thanks.10:34
J_H_DKya thanks, gonna put that link in my bookmark :)10:35
frank23I got to go. hope you figure something out10:35
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kubafrank23: Thanks for all your help. I have to go now but I'll probably come back later/tomorrow.10:36
kubacya then10:36
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Search4Lancerstupid question: I just downloaded a theme, how the heck do I install it?10:37
robotgeekSearch4Lancer, use alt + f2, type "kcontrol" in the text box, and hit the <enter> key10:38
robotgeekthen go to theme manager, hopefully10:38
Kev1ni am using dapper.. usb problems. lsusb freezes ... lspci is fine    ....    any ideas10:38
robotgeekKev1n: filed a bug?10:39
Kev1nno... want to know what output is required to file that bug10:39
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robotgeekKev1n: probably uname -a , and a "dmesg > dmesg.log"10:40
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robotgeekKev1n: also, they will ask you for more information if they need some10:40
Search4Lancerrobotgeek: After installing a theme, am I free to trash the files I had downloaded for it?10:41
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robotgeekSearch4Lancer: i think so10:41
Kev1nrobotgeek.. thanks ..will do that in next few mins10:41
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vickshas anyone gotten katapult to work in dapper? mine hasn't worked for several weeks10:42
SteilAre there plans to package the betas of Kopete 0.12?10:42
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yuriydoes amarok 1.4 beta3 work for people?10:44
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yuriymine won't add anything to the collection10:44
yuriyas if every format is unsupported10:44
robotgeekyuriy: even oggs?10:44
yuriyyeah10:44
yuriynothing.10:44
Steilyuriy: its working fine for me10:45
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yuriyhmm10:45
Steilyuriy: are you using a real engine or the null engine?10:45
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J_H_DKwell im trying to rebuild my collection but it hangs abit, but that could be cause it is on a samba share10:45
yuriyi had 1.4 installed from SVN apr 7, and these packages are 1 day newer10:45
yuriyusing gstreamer0.1010:45
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yuriythe previous one worked fine.10:46
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DeluxXx__sorry10:51
DeluxXx__frank23 what did you mean with recover ?10:51
DeluxXx__i dont wanna reinstall thats for sure10:51
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silverHi all!10:58
silverI'm Silver and i am noob at that chat10:59
silveris anybody her ?10:59
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S4LI am having one mess of a time trying to install new screensavers.... (that being, I haven't the slightest goddamn idea what I'm doing)11:10
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mindspinany thunderbird expert here?11:26
DaSkreechmindspin: try irc.mozilla.org11:26
Dasnipa`i dont know much about the bird of thunder... but i got the water of fire covered11:26
apokryphosmindspin: #ubuntu might be better for non-kde related questions, often.11:27
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mindspinok thanks11:28
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Wizz_Kiddtook them 12 years to make WINE damn shit11:29
DaSkreechWizz_Kidd: You can do it faster?11:30
Wizz_Kiddno man i didnt say anything against i jus said damn11:30
Wizz_Kiddhard work :P11:30
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CellarDoorHello fellow kubuntu'ers11:31
DaSkreechAh there was a period in between the last two words11:31
DaSkreechOk11:31
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chxrecent Kubuntu dapper apt-get upgrade made a slight change in my peach theme and it's uuuuuugly , the menu part (File Edit...) is white-grey not peach. How could I fix this?11:33
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cromoI asked this on unubtu+1, I thought I might asked here too:11:39
DaSkreechKubuntu+1?11:39
cromouhm11:39
cromosorry, had no idea that channel exists11:39
cromoerr it doesn't11:40
cromodapper discussion in ubuntu+1, as the topic says11:40
DaSkreechIt doesn't :)11:40
DaSkreechSorry :)11:40
DaSkreechI was just pulling your leg11:40
cromonp.11:40
cromo;)11:41
cromoanyway, are there any people using kubuntu dapper here?11:41
vge_o/11:41
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cromook11:41
kmoncromo: me11:42
cromoare you vge printing with kprint?11:42
vgedont have printer sry11:42
kmonI don't have a printer :/11:42
cromokmon: you?11:42
buzcromo: printing got broken today11:42
cromouhm11:42
buzat least it doesnt work for me either11:42
cromobuz: it used to be broken here since some time11:42
buzno it got repaired last week for me11:42
cromomaybe it got fixed and got broken again today11:42
buzthen got broken again today11:42
buzit's some cups issue11:43
buzsomewhere on some kde site i read abou tit11:43
cromoanyway, lemme show you my issues, maybe you'll find it similar so I will at least stay cool that it's not driver's fault11:43
Wizz_KiddUnable to retrieve the printer list. Error message received from manager:11:43
Wizz_KiddConnection to CUPS server failed. Check that the CUPS server is correctly installed and running. Error: the IPP request failed for an unknown reason.11:43
Wizz_Kiddwhata the prob11:43
Wizz_Kidd?11:43
buzthat is likely the OLD problem11:43
cromoHi. I have issues here with cupsys. It doesn't work since a couple of months, I am not sure If it was me that broke something. I read a lot that the dapper cupsys libs&apps were broken, though I am not sure. Firstable, after pure (i.e. purged) install of cupsys I have to edit the /etc/cypsys/cupsd.conf and unhah the localhost:631, otherwise kControl won't be able to cope with CUPS. Socker connextion doesn't work at all11:44
buzthat got fixed for me last week11:44
cromothis is the copy&paste11:44
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buzthis week i get connection to cups but i cant print11:44
cromobuz: did you try to upgrade a couple of hrs ago?11:44
buzthankfully i got a Postscript printer so i can just cat > lpt0 ;)11:44
cromoI noticed some cupsys update11:44
buzcromo: yes11:44
cromothis lead me to this problem again11:44
Wizz_KiddSame here i have Dapper Linux and CUPS is not working11:44
cromowanted to check id that's working11:45
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cromodo you guys have the same problem with localhost and socket by any chance?11:45
buzcromo: no11:46
buzi can access cups in system settings11:46
Wizz_Kiddi need to get my cups working so I can print11:46
buzi just cant print to it11:46
buzprint jobs somehow get lost11:46
buzthey show up in kjobviewer but disappear after some time11:46
cromobuz: same here IF i edit cupsd.conf and unhash the localhost:631, that I set manually in kprint11:46
buzthe socket issue was fixed last week (with a hack, but still it worked)11:47
cromothen I can see my printer, otherwise kprinter module in kcontrol won't connect to cupsys11:47
Wizz_Kiddi can even get it to access cups in printer settings ????????11:47
vgehmm, do i need firewall in IE vmware install that connect to internet bridged? :)11:47
buzi can see my printer without cups conf hacking11:48
buz(only kpdf could never ever see it)11:48
buzbut kpdf is really one of the weakest spots of kde11:48
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cromobuz: can you please take a look at your /etc/cups/cupsd.conf and see if both the Listen localhost:631 and Listen /var/run/cups/cups.sock are hashed out?11:50
buz# Only listen for connections from the local machine.11:50
buz# Listen localhost:63111:50
buz# Listen /var/run/cups/cups.sock11:50
cromodamn11:50
cromoit won't work here unless I unhash listen localhost:63111:51
cromoguss this is a bug to be solved11:51
buzyes11:51
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buzits a kprinter bug, really11:51
buzcromo: http://www.kdedevelopers.org/blog/41811:51
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toxic_Is there a way I can get Eterm to launch with options ? (ie I want to run something like "Eterm --command tail -f /var/log/somelog"11:52
cromobut how come it works for you and it doesn't here?11:52
buzno idea11:52
buzwhen did you last dist-upgrade dapper11:52
Dasnipa`hooray for turboprint11:52
buznot bloody useful with a postscript printer, but never mind11:53
cromocouple of minutes ago11:53
cromoI always do dist-upgrade11:53
buzmhh that release works for me in system settings11:54
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buzweird11:55
buznow printing works again11:55
buzat least from kate11:55
buzlets see what happens from kghostview11:55
cromoI tried with OO11:55
cromodidn't try anything else11:55
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buzdoesnt seem to work from kghostview11:56
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cromoare you sure you cen see your the printer under kcontrol?11:56
cromoI also had the prolem with configuring print server directly from kcontrol11:56
buzcromo: 100% sure11:56
cromoit asked for the password but I never managed to get inside the config11:56
buzbut I CAN'T see it from kpdf11:57
cromoweird11:57
buzkpdf is weird anyhow11:57
cromothis should all be fixed, or dapper should switch back to breezy's cupsys11:57
buzprinting from kword also works11:58
buzthen wtf wont kghostview work11:58
cromoi'll try kate11:58
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cromodo you have oo? try with it11:58
buzjust started it ;)11:58
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buzcups:printer shows up11:59
buzlets see11:59
Wizz_Kidddude my cups is still fucke up11:59
Wizz_Kiddthis damn Dapper shit12:00
cromobuz: can you please post your cupsysd.conf somwhere? i.e. pastebin.com12:00
buzyeah printing from OO works as well12:00
buzcromo: sure12:00
cromomayebe some other opts are different12:00
buzhttp://pastebin.com/65237112:00
buznever touched it by hand12:00
cromoalso, can you check to which groups your user belongs?12:01
Wizz_KiddSomeone wanna assist me also with my printer prob :)12:01
buzuid=1000(buz) gid=1000(buz) groups=1000(buz),4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom),25(floppy),29(audio),30(dip),44(video),46(plugdev),106(lpadmin),110(scanner),111(admin)12:01
buzonly real change i did from flight 6 is setting root pw12:02
trappistWizz_Kidd: that language is no more welcome here than in #ubuntu12:02
buzand isnstaling a ton of software ;)12:02
cromoI have had a long way here, since debian sarge, debian sid, ubuntu breezy and dapper now12:02
cromoall using same install12:02
Wizz_Kiddtrappist: again man you dont know me12:02
trappistWizz_Kidd: irrelevant12:03
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Wizz_KiddNo not really12:03
buzyes really12:03
Wizz_KiddNope12:03

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