[12:04] <blindmoses> hey, where can i download breezy packages from?
[12:05] <_jeff> odyx: it always has trouble tracking torrents for me
[12:05] <OdyX> _jeff:  how many do you have ?
[12:05] <_jeff> odyx: all kinds of silly problems that azureus doesnt have
[12:06] <_jeff> i had 2
[12:06] <OdyX> _jeff: what kind of torrents ?
[12:06] <OdyX> Linux iso's ?
[12:06] <ryanakca> how do you find you what package provides what files?
[12:06] <OdyX> have you tried with other ones ?
[12:06] <OdyX> ryanakca: install apt-files..
[12:06] <OdyX> (-s ?)
[12:07] <ryanakca> like say I'm looking for   filesomething.so       , how would I know what package provides it...
[12:07] <ryanakca> OdyX: kk
[12:07] <_jeff> odyx: no, im dling common files like episodes of 24 and stuff
[12:07] <_jeff> odyx: i know all about torrents and things
[12:08] <ryanakca> OdyX: hmmm... there is no "apt-files" in the repositories...
[12:08] <OdyX> _jeff: hum... OK... what about other clients ?
[12:08] <ryanakca> OdyX: oops... wrong channel.... I thought this was the dapper chan
[12:08] <OdyX> ryanakca: apt-file (without s)
[12:08] <OdyX> ryanakca: no worry, not a lot of people indeed...
[12:09] <OdyX> ryanakca: what is the dapper chan ?
[12:09] <ryanakca> bash: apt-file: command not found
[12:09] <ryanakca> OdyX: #ubuntu+1
[12:09] <OdyX> ryanakca: K ?
[12:10] <ryanakca> OdyX: ???? what? "K?"
[12:10] <OdyX> ryanakca: K for KDE, for Kubuntu.. so I was trying to express shortly if there was a Dapper channel for Kubuntu...
[12:11] <ryanakca> OdyX: no... kubuntu, xubuntu and ubuntu are in #ubuntu+1
[12:11] <OdyX> ryanakca: OK
[12:12] <ryanakca> OdyX: you using dapper?
[12:13] <OdyX> ryanakca: I do.
[12:18] <Bambino> Excuse me, i have a few questions. First is, how do I make it so that my computer and the trash bin and home folder is displayed at my desktop?
[12:21] <bobbyd> Bambino: you might want to ask in #kde
[12:23] <Bambino> bobbyd: So what is this channel for?
[12:23] <metalhedd> Bambino: right click on the desktop -> Create new -> link to location
[12:24] <Bambino> metalhedd: Ok thanks
[12:24] <metalhedd> trash://  will link to the trash.   ~ will link to your home dir.
[12:24] <metalhedd> there is no "my computer" per se in linux
[12:24] <bobbyd> Bambino: sorry, I was just saying that I didn't know and maybe someone in #kde would :)
[12:25] <Bambino> bobbyd: Oh ok wasnt meaning anything bad, just thought i was in the wrong channel so i asked what this was for then (so i ask the right uestions)
[12:25] <Bambino> metalhedd: Thank you
[12:25] <metalhedd> no problem dud
[12:25] <metalhedd> e
[12:25] <metalhedd> dude. lol
[12:25] <Bambino> ;)
[12:26] <bobbyd> Bambino: this is indeed for Kubuntu questions :)
[12:27] <Bambino> bobbyd: hehe ok thanks
[12:27] <nxv_> has anybody a solution for the screen disortion with ati m9000 and xgl?
[12:28] <Bambino> anybody ever had this problem? I reinstalled kde, i removed it, i installed kubuntu and gives me the same. http://www.romeon.net/error.png  this is when i try to konfigure konsole
[12:33] <_jeff> hey guys
[12:34] <_jeff> odyx: i just tried another torrent and i keep getting stalled, then tracker is down
[12:34] <OdyX> _jeff: well.. don't know... sorry
[12:35] <vladar> blaah
[12:35] <_jeff> odyx: s'ok
[12:40] <Bambino> Any idea how to update firefox?
[12:41] <redphoenix> aha, finally! Installed Dapper, no more boot errors, fantastic!
[12:41] <Crashoveride> how do I install tcl? I tried sudo apt-get tcl...
[12:41] <bobbyd> Bambino: to 1.5? you won't be able to unless you use "dapper" the testing versino of kubuntu
[12:41] <Danny> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion?highlight=%28firefox%29
[12:41] <bobbyd> Crashoveride: apt-cache search tcl
[12:42] <Danny> bobbyd...yes you can
[12:42] <Crashoveride> thanks
[12:42] <Danny> Bambino: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion?highlight=%28firefox%29
[12:42] <Bambino> bobbyd: Oh ok thanks
[12:42] <bobbyd> Danny: oh, i'm behind the time them :0
[12:42] <Danny> ok..brb
[12:43] <Bambino> Danny: thank u sir
[12:43] <jguarda> hi .. one question about mp3 in kubuntu 6.06
[12:43] <Crashoveride> bobbyd: that doesnt work, still gives error saying tcl cant be found on system
[12:44] <jguarda> i'm trying to install libxine-extracodecs in kubuntu live cd 6.06, but Adept doesn't show me that package ... anybody knows how to do it?
[12:44] <Crashoveride> eeer I have to go I will try later
[12:44] <Danny> no problem Bambino
[12:47] <jguarda> hi ... i'm trying to install libxine-extracodecs in kubuntu live cd 6.06, but Adept doesn't show me that package ... anybody knows how to do it?
[12:48] <_jeff> does anybody know whats up with the amarok packages on the repo?
[12:48] <_jeff> i started having troubles with my xine engine in amarok after the last update
[12:48] <_jeff> so i tried to reinstall it but the apt-get says that its broken
[12:53] <viator> im using the xine engine
[12:53] <viator> seems to work fi
[12:53] <viator> ne
[12:53] <viator> in dapper or breezy?
[12:59] <_jeff> breezy
[12:59] <_jeff> =(
[12:59] <_jeff> have you update/upgraded lately?
[01:00] <Bambino> Does anyone happend to have the flash gz file for firefox? (the macromedia site is down and i need it)
[01:01] <LeeJunFan> Bambino: give me a second to get it from my remote server.
[01:01] <Bambino> LeeJunFan: thanks
[01:01] <theripper> whats a good gui ftp client for kde?
[01:01] <SkrotFFS> ftp://
[01:02] <SkrotFFS> =)
[01:02] <_jeff> lol
[01:02] <theripper> gui client
[01:02] <_jeff> i think he means konqueror
[01:02] <SkrotFFS> konqueror is good
[01:03] <theripper> i
[01:03] <theripper> ill try it
[01:03] <theripper> thanks
[01:03] <SkrotFFS> But if you need a ftp client i guess KBear is okay
[01:03] <LeeJunFan> Bambino: http://home.skycon.net/~junfan/install_flash_player_7_linux.tar.gz
[01:04] <Bambino> LeeJunFan: mostly appreciated thank u
[01:04] <LeeJunFan> Bambino: np, just so happens I still had it on the library system I installed last week.
[01:05] <elijahlofgren> theripper: Konqueror can do split window view like most FTP clients.
[01:05] <theripper> elijahlofgren: does it do it when it goes into ftp ?
[01:06] <_jeff> lol mostly appreciated
[01:06] <_jeff> a little bit not
[01:07] <LeeJunFan> theripper: no, you have to change your view settings from the menu.
[01:07] <Bambino> LeeJunFan: Lucky me ;)
[01:07] <theripper> ok ty
[01:07] <LeeJunFan> theripper: under "window"
[01:09] <elijahlofgren> theripper: Right click on the status bar at the bottom of Konqueror and click "Split View Left/Right"
[01:09] <theripper> does konversation have any other servers in the list besides freenode?
[01:12] <chavo> theripper, hit ctrl-shift-l to split konqueror window
[01:13] <theripper> ty
[01:13] <chavo> well that's for side by side view, ctrl-shift-t for one view on top
[01:20] <paulvolk> I have a question
[01:21] <paulvolk> When Dapper comes out how do you upgrade? do you have to burn another CD and install it all over again?
[01:22] <crimsun> no, change your sources.list, update && dist-upgrade
[01:22] <crimsun> of course you _can_ dist-upgrade from a Dapper iso
[01:23] <paulvolk> ok cool
[01:26] <jguarda> hi ... i'm trying to install libxine-extracodecs in kubuntu live cd 6.06, but Adept doesn't show me that package ... anybody knows how to do it?
[01:28] <crimsun> enable multiverse.
[01:28] <elijahlofgren> !universe
[01:28] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[01:29] <SkrotFFS> !easysource
[01:29] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[01:30] <jguarda> ok, i'll try ..thanks
[01:37] <`Matir> I'm using 5.10, and for some reason, I can't get kwifimanager to let me connect to a wireless network.  It should be possible from the scan list, right?
[01:42] <tmdx120> anyone home?
[01:42] <tmdx120> beefsprocket, you there?
[01:45] <lengau> tndx120:Hi
[01:49] <beefsprocket> tmdx120: yeah
[01:49] <tmdx120> hello.
[01:49] <beefsprocket> what's up?
[01:49] <_jeff> tmdx120L: yeah
[01:49] <_jeff> hi
[01:49] <tmdx120> I finally got the upgrade done. Thanks again
[01:49] <beefsprocket> oh good -- how's the system:/media working?
[01:50] <tmdx120> Still havent gotten the system to recognize my IDE drive. I think I did something in the BIOS.
[01:50] <tmdx120> I have another unrelated question re: firefox
[01:50] <beefsprocket> shoot
[01:51] <paulvolk> could someone please tell me how to change the bootslpash in Kubuntu?
[01:51] <apokryphos> .......to?
[01:51] <apokryphos> !bootsplash
[01:51] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, apokryphos
[01:51] <tmdx120> I use portable firefox for windows. I want to port all of my favorites to my linux box. Any ideas?
[01:51] <beefsprocket> paulvolk: I'd suggest looking at the files kubuntu-bootsplash installs
[01:51] <apokryphos> !usplashchange
[01:51] <ubotu> To change the usplash image shown at boot, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so", choose the one that you want, and then do "sudo update-initramfs -u".
[01:51] <beefsprocket> tmdx120: it's on a usb drive then?
[01:51] <tmdx120> yes
[01:52] <beefsprocket> I'd say first to backup your /home/~user/.mozilla directory somehwere safe
[01:52] <tmdx120> ok
[01:52] <apokryphos> also......
[01:52] <apokryphos> !usplash
[01:52] <ubotu> usplash is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto
[01:53] <beefsprocket> then copy the profile from the usb key into that directory -- shoul dhave profile.ini 2103djfgaw9857wa0q.whatever gibberish folder and a .dat if i am not mistaken
[01:53] <Mic_> no, you don't have to do that much
[01:53] <Mic_> just go to manage bookmarks>>import in firefox
[01:53] <beefsprocket> depends on bookmarks or entire profile
[01:54] <beefsprocket> but yeah, there is a bookmarks.html in your profile directory that you can import directly
[01:55] <beefsprocket> in the C:\Documents and Settings\User\Application\ Data/Mozilla/Firefox/Profiles/cpxylpgw.default/ directory -- should be similiar on your useb key
[01:57] <tmdx120> does it matter that the one on the usb is for windows OS?
[01:57] <Mic_> it's just in /portable firefox directory/profile/bookmarks.html
[01:57] <Mic_> no, it doesn't
[01:57] <beefsprocket> nope -- not at all
[01:59] <tmdx120> ok, Ill give it a shot!
[02:01] <yuion> hi
[02:01] <yuion> some one knows how to change lang in kuuntu?
[02:02] <apokryphos> yuion: K menu > System > Adept (Package Manager)
[02:02] <apokryphos> Adept is like Ubuntu's Synaptic
[02:03] <Barbelos> yuion: Install the correct language packs in adept. For KDE you can configure it in System settings, or kcontrol
[02:04] <Parkotron> yuion: What language do you want?
[02:04] <yuion> swedish please
[02:05] <apokryphos> yuion: install kde-i18n-se
[02:05] <apokryphos> so....... sudo apt-get install kde-i18n-se
[02:05] <yuion> apokryphos, thansk god i have you guys
[02:05] <yuion> apokryphos, but why its not same root pw in kubuntu?
[02:05] <apokryphos> yuion: it's a good idea to learn how to use the graphical package managers though :)
[02:06] <Barbelos> I do think (k)ubuntu has the best ever irc-community :D
[02:06] <apokryphos> yuion: ubuntu doesn't use root, just use sudo.
[02:06] <Steveire> Freenode has the best irc channels
[02:06] <yuion> just log out and the lang will change?
[02:07] <apokryphos> I guess so
[02:07] <yuion> Ok,thanks,brb
[02:09] <yuion> hi
[02:09] <apokryphos> did it work?
[02:09] <yuion> apokryphos, the lang change dosent work:(
[02:09] <apokryphos> yuion: ok, as I thought now. Just go to the k menu > systemsettings
[02:10] <Mic_> you have to change the "Country/Region and Language" settings
[02:10] <apokryphos> from there go to Language, and select Swedish :)
[02:10] <yuion> apokryphos, then?
[02:11] <apokryphos> yuion: once it's definitely selected as default and you've hit apply, then logout/in again.
[02:11] <apokryphos> that will definitely work
[02:11] <yuion> apokryphos, say what!?
[02:12] <yuion> apokryphos, have i missed something or you say hwo to change the lang in systemsettings?
[02:12] <apokryphos> yuion: if you selected it, then just hit "Apply" at the bottom.
[02:12] <apokryphos> yup, I did
[02:12] <yuion> apokryphos, selected what:P?
[02:12] <apokryphos> yuion: Swedish
[02:12] <yuion> apokryphos, ye but where?
[02:12] <apokryphos> you went over to "Country/Region and Language" as Mic_ said, right?
[02:13] <yuion> aha sorry,totally missed what the other gy wrote,sorry
[02:14] <apokryphos> np
[02:15] <Bambino> Hi i need 2 files, since the kde upgrade to 3.5.2 in breezy lacks those two files. they are named kcm_konsole.la and kcm_konsole.so could someone please put them for me to download?
[02:16] <yuion> apokryphos, okey,WTF..i choose swedsh but suomi comes up:S
[02:16] <apokryphos> are you sure you did?
[02:16] <yuion> apokryphos, of course,the swedish flags are there and everything
[02:17] <apokryphos> hmm :/
[02:17] <apokryphos> yuion: perhaps try asking in #kubuntu-se ?
[02:17] <apokryphos> sounds very odd
[02:18] <Parkotron> I thought SV was Swedish, not SE?
[02:18] <apokryphos> arggh
[02:18] <apokryphos> that would explain a lot :)
[02:18] <yuion> apokryphos, haha woot?
[02:18] <apokryphos> silly me
[02:19] <yuion> apokryphos, any sugation?
[02:19] <apokryphos> yuion: sudo apt-get remove kde-i18n-se && sudo apt-get install kde-i18n-sv
[02:19] <yuion> apokryphos, thansk
[02:19] <apokryphos> sorry about that
[02:20] <yuion> apokryphos, np
[02:20] <yuion> apokryphos, but you know how to get SE:P?
[02:21] <apokryphos> yuion: sorry?
[02:21] <yuion> apokryphos, or i mean swedish:P
[02:21] <apokryphos> yuion: type that command, then select swedish in system settings, and relogin for the last time :P
[02:21] <yuion> apokryphos, no my bad,you right:P
[02:22] <yuion> kolla det fungerar(swdish=looks its works) thanks you agian:P
[02:22] <apokryphos> =)
[02:23] <yuion> apokryphos, why should i use kde:P?
[02:24] <apokryphos> it's so much better :D
[02:24] <paulvolk> could anyone tell me where I could find the Firefox folder to put the JRE plugin in?
[02:24] <yuion> apokryphos, haod to know why:Pfun/goha yes i belive you,just
[02:25] <apokryphos> yuion: it's far more customizable, has better applications, and I find it a lot more powerful.
[02:25] <yuion> apokryphos, just fun/good to know why
[02:25] <apokryphos> paulvolk: no need to do that, just install the java debs as provided.
[02:25] <apokryphos> paulvolk: /msg ubotu java
[02:25] <apokryphos> yuion: sure
[02:25] <paulvolk> oh ok
[02:25] <yuion> apokryphos, okey,it you think that i think that to:D
[02:26] <yuion> apokryphos, have any msn?
[02:26] <apokryphos> yuion: yeah, but I really only use IRC for GNU/Linux related things.
[02:27] <elknof1> hey
[02:27] <yuion> apokryphos, aha okey,sorry..hope i allways find you here then!:D
[02:27] <apokryphos> there are many other helpful users in these channel, many who are far more knowledgable than me, too :)
[02:28] <elknof1> does somebody knows about a link with a HOWTO for installing easy ubuntu
[02:28] <elknof1> in kubuntu breezy badger
[02:28] <elknof1> 5.10
[02:28] <apokryphos> !easyubuntu
[02:28] <ubotu> easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu
[02:28] <elknof1> ey men thanks
[02:29] <yuion> apokryphos, have you some goos tip on programs to a newb user??
[02:29] <yuion> apokryphos, good*
[02:30] <sledge> Does there exist a quake3:arena package for kubuntu/debian?
[02:30] <apokryphos> yuion: depends on what you're looking to do
[02:30] <apokryphos> yuion: if you like music, then look into amaroK.
[02:31] <yuion> apokryphos, nothing speciell actully..just looking around and try tp find some good things!
[02:32] <yuion> apokryphos, oo you can do me a huge favor..help me to install wine:P
[02:33] <apokryphos> yuion: nice little apps are: amarok (for music), filelight (for displaying hard-disk usage), konversation (IRC client), Kopete (instant messenger client; msn etc).
[02:33] <apokryphos> yuion: not really :P, but you could follow this guide:
[02:33] <apokryphos> !wine
[02:33] <elknof1> i just have a trouble with the last line of commands     gksudo ./easyubuntu.py
[02:33] <yuion> apokryphos, what guide:P?
[02:33] <elknof1> bash: gksudo: command not found
[02:33] <elknof1> thats the error it brings me back
[02:33] <apokryphos> !+wine
[02:33] <ubotu> Wine is a compatibility layer used by linux to let it run the majority of windows programs. To get wine installed, download http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/wine/wine_0.9.10-winehq1-2_i386.deb then follow this guide to installing it http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=149585 More info at http://www.winehq.com or for support go to #winehq
[02:33] <apokryphos> there :)
[02:34] <apokryphos> elknof1: use kdesu if you're on kubuntu, not gksudo.
[02:34] <elknof1> yeah... thanks...  sorry men but i have only 3 days with mi kubuntu running, so those are new tips for me
[02:34] <elknof1> thanks men
[02:35] <yuion> ubotu, damn,lazy iam,i hope its jsut was a simple command:P..yeye jsut start to read:D
[02:35] <ubotu> I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, yuion
[02:36] <viator> thats a bot yuion
[02:36] <Parkotron> yuion: ubotu is a robot used to answer commonly asked questions. He's not much good for conversation.
[02:36] <yuion> apokryphos, haha i thougt that:P
[02:38] <yuion> apo btw what i use "katapult" to?
[02:38] <elknof1> deamn!!!    i just can't install easy ubuntuuu!!  lol   easy ubuntu is not easy for me lol
[02:39] <yuion> apokryphos, what use easyubuntu to?
[02:39] <apokryphos> check out their site -- good information there
[02:39] <apokryphos> !easyubuntu
[02:39] <ubotu> easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu
[02:40] <lwizardl> the easyubuntu program errors for me
[02:40] <yuion> apokryphos, sorry,im now lazy just newb..you have any direct thing i can write in xterm?
[02:40] <apokryphos> lwizardl: /j #easyubuntu   -- try in there.
[02:40] <apokryphos> yuion: for?
[02:40] <yuion> apokryphos, easyubuntu
[02:41] <yuion> apokryphos, or i got everything wrong about that:P
[02:41] <apokryphos> yuion: nope, but their site is very user-friendly, I assure you. :)
[02:41] <yuion> apokryphos,  okey,i check it out
[02:43] <yuion> apokryphos, how i look my hdd storage,free mb and all that?
[02:43] <patientfox> hey quick question: im typically a gentoo man... but am considering kubuntu as a "less hassle" option for my gaming box, which the main caveat being that it is 2x 7800GT's in SLI mode... will kubuntu support this out of the box or do i have to do some h4x0ring?
[02:43] <apokryphos> yuion: filelight is very good for that :)
[02:43] <apokryphos> just install it and then fire it up =)
[02:43] <patientfox> i could read some walkthroughs and just do it in gentoo, but im curious if there's a less mangled option...
[02:44] <apokryphos> yuion: for a quick solution though, on the command line just df -h
[02:44] <patientfox> also, is the latest kubuntu CD using 3.5 or do i have to update after install or what?
[02:44] <patientfox> kde 3.5, that is...
[02:45] <bimberi> patientfox: it doesn't but you can get it ...
[02:45] <bimberi> !kde3.5
[02:45] <ubotu> To upgrade to to the latest KDE3.5, Follow the instructions at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-352.php (add the deb... line to your sources.list). Then "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".
[02:45] <apokryphos> it won't be out-of-the-box support
[02:45] <apokryphos> kde 3.5 is an easy 2 commands
[02:45] <patientfox> ok that issue is sorted... i just need to deal with the whole SLI issue...
[02:46] <apokryphos> patientfox: though, suse's yast is quite good with such things, I'd venture a guess that it would.
[02:47] <yuion> okey,thanks for the help everybody..time to go to bed..night!
[02:47] <apokryphos> 'night
[02:48] <patientfox> well lets hope this sucker will support something out of the box... otherwise im in trouble...
[02:48] <patientfox> there is a distro out there tailored to high end boxen... cant remember the name tho..
[02:48] <yuion> apokryphos, you can change status or something in irc:P?
[02:49] <apokryphos> as in "away status"? Sure.
[02:49] <apokryphos> just type /away somemessage
[02:50] <yuion> apokryphos, so?:P,and when i want to wake agian?
[02:50] <apokryphos> yuion: /back
[02:50] <theripper> does anyone know if i can set a minimum text size in the konqueror somewhere?
[02:51] <kosh> yes
[02:51] <yuion> apokryphos, haha everything sp easy,thanks for today and night
[02:51] <apokryphos> theripper: yup, go to system settings > appearance and themes > fonts :P
[02:52] <kosh> theripper: settings -> configure konqueror -> fonts -> and min is on that page
[02:52] <kosh> apokryphos: that is not what he asked
[02:52] <kosh> apokryphos: he wanted min font size which is not the same as default chosen font
[02:54] <apokryphos> ok, indeed
[02:54] <elknof1> is there a way to have firefox-mozilla as my default web browser instead konqueror in kubuntu??
[02:54] <kosh> yes
[02:55] <kosh> kcontrol -> kde components -> Web Browser -> and set it to firefox
[02:55] <theripper> ok , ive raised all the font sizes in the system setting menu but the konqueror fonts are the same
[02:56] <kosh> theripper: I told you which one to go to and that the system one is wrong
[02:56] <theripper> kosh i tried yours too , i did that first but this doesnt work either
[02:57] <elknof1> apokryphos, men i still cant install easyubuntu i've downloaded the 2.3.1 ver, but i have no idea how to install it, and i tryed with the lines given in the easyubuntu site, but it doesnt work
[02:57] <kosh> the ones I showed you do work on all html that konqueorr has to render, what font exactly is too small and where is it?
[02:57] <theripper> kosh: by bad , wrong window , you are right , thank you
[02:58] <paulvolk> how do I setup the root account?
[02:58] <Bambino> help lpease, when i go to konsole and try to konfigure it, i get this error
[02:58] <kosh> theripper: cool
[02:58] <kosh> paulvolk: don't
[02:58] <paulvolk> I need too
[02:58] <kosh> why?
[02:58] <Bambino> usr/lib/kde3/kcm_konsole.so: cannot open shared file: no such file or directory
[02:59] <Bambino> does anyone know why?
[02:59] <paulvolk> I have no idea how to copy files to a place that needs root acces without a root account
[02:59] <kosh> paulvolk: use sudo
[02:59] <Parkotron> !sudo
[02:59] <ubotu> it has been said that sudo is a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[02:59] <paulvolk> How do I copy though?
[03:00] <Parkotron> paulvolk: Are you using the command line or Konqueror?
[03:00] <theripper> !sudo
[03:00] <ubotu> I heard sudo is a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[03:02] <sledge> Does there exist a quake3:arena package for kubuntu/debian?
[03:03] <elknof1>  i still cant install easyubuntu i've downloaded the 2.3.1 ver, but i have no idea how to install it, and i tryed with the lines given in the easyubuntu site, but it doesnt work..  help please
[03:03] <elknof1> im a total newbie
[03:07] <Parkotron> elknof1: What is
[03:07] <Parkotron> it that you want easyubuntu to do?
[03:08] <elknof1> i want to install it
[03:09] <Parkotron> elknof1: Sorry, I meant what do you want to do with it once it's installed?
[03:09] <elknof1> i heard is easyer to have skype ati drivers and stuff with that
[03:09] <elknof1> install drivers of my ati video card
[03:09] <elknof1> install skype
[03:09] <elknof1> limewire
[03:10] <elknof1> is just that I only have 3 days trying linux, and i choosed Kubuntu 5.10 cause' i read it was easyer than others
[03:10] <crweb> i'm having a problem with building my own kernels
[03:11] <crweb> after reboot the new kernel just loops looking for /dev/ttyS0 + 1   forever
[03:11] <Parkotron> Personally, I'd recommend trying to install those things the "old-fashioned" way as it'd be good experience on installing software in Linux, but I don't use any of those so it could be harder than expected.
[03:12] <Parkotron> elknof1: There are, however, alternatives to EasyUbuntu. Automatix comes to mind.
[03:12] <elknof1> thanx let me take a look
[03:13] <paulvolk> How do I move a file to a folder with sudo?
[03:13] <Bambino> Anyone here sitting on a 64bit ubuntu? I need 2 files in KDE urgently please
[03:13] <Parkotron> paulvolk: Are you familiar with the Linux command line?
[03:13] <paulvolk> Ya I have used Suse for years
[03:14] <Parkotron> paulvolk: Oh! Good! That makes this one hundred times easier.
[03:14] <paulvolk> just swtched to Kubuntu cause I had a lot of problems with suse
[03:14] <elknof1> Parkotron: is automatix for Kubuntu too??
[03:14] <Parkotron> paulvolk: Just precede the command with sudo. eg "sudo mv file1 file2"
[03:14] <elknof1> it only says that is for gnome
[03:15] <paulvolk> ok thanks
[03:15] <elknof1> or it desnt say nothing if it is for kde...
[03:15] <Parkotron> paulvolk: You'll be asked for you're password and all should go as expected.
[03:16] <Parkotron> elknof1: I believe both EasyUbuntu and Automatix are aimed at Gnome users, but a lot of the stuff they install would be commond to both desktops.
[03:18] <elknof1> but the commands change from one to other, and i'm at my copy-paste degree of using linux
[03:19] <elknof1> but if you know of a page of automatix with a howto for kubuntu would be nice
[03:19] <CheeseBurgerMan> !automatix
[03:19] <ubotu> methinks automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[03:20] <CheeseBurgerMan> I have no clue why 'echo -e'y\nY\n' is risky, but.... :P
[03:20] <paulvolk> ok Parkotron I did what you said but it says that the file is not valid
[03:21] <Parkotron> paulvolk: That seems odd.
[03:22] <paulvolk> nvm I got it working now
[03:22] <paulvolk> misspelled it
[03:23] <Parkotron> paulvolk: You can also launch Konqueror with root priviledges by running "kdesu konqueror", if that's more up your alley.
[03:23] <Barbelos> Is there a repository for breezy with a libxine version higher than 1.0.1? I want to build kaffeine 0.8 here, and not worry about breaking any other dependencies
[03:24] <paulvolk> lol Thanks for telling me that now!!!
[03:24] <paulvolk> lol
[03:26] <noiesmo> hey all running kubuntu daper with xgl xompiz and seems ok just wondering if anyone knows why my xine gui is no good but xine works
[03:26] <Parkotron> elknof1: From the looks of the EasyUbuntu installation guide on their website, you should be able to install following those instruction as long as you replace "gksudo" with "kdesu".
[03:29] <Parkotron> noiesmo: I had similiar problems in my experiments with XGL. I was never able to find a fix.
[03:30] <crweb> yay! new xorg-wacom drivers!
[03:30] <crweb> for dapper
[03:30] <Tm_T> noiesmo: welll
[03:30] <Tm_T> !xgl
[03:30] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[03:30] <noiesmo> Parkotron, cheers its not a big deal will just right click to get menu options
[03:31] <Tm_T> and I'd say, if you like your system work flawlessly, stay far away from Xgl
[03:31] <apachelogger> Tm_T: mom, why are you still awake?
[03:31] <_robert> could someone tell me how to install programs that i downloaded from the internet?
[03:31] <Tm_T> apachelogger: ...
[03:31] <Tm_T> I'm not!
[03:31] <noiesmo> Tm_T, no me loves me eye candy ;)
[03:32] <CheeseBurgerMan> _robert: Are they in debs?
[03:32] <Parkotron> noiesmo: If you use KDE and like xine, I'd reccomend Kaffeine with the xine engine.
[03:32] <_robert> they have a tar.gz  extention
[03:32] <Kyral> or Codeince
[03:32] <noiesmo> Parkotron, good thinking dude
[03:32] <CheeseBurgerMan> _robert: What program is it?
[03:32] <Kyral> Codeine even :D
[03:32] <CheeseBurgerMan> It may not need to be installed
[03:32] <Tm_T> OR KMPlayer
[03:33] <_robert> it apsfilter-7
[03:33] <CheeseBurgerMan> _robert: Untar it
[03:33] <Kyral> Codeine is basically Kaffine but lighter
[03:33] <Kyral> I like it :D
[03:33] <apachelogger> mhhh
[03:33] <crweb> if there are any ubuntu xorg developers in here,  THANK YOU for the new wacom package
[03:33] <apachelogger> Codeine
[03:33] <apachelogger> best player ever
[03:33] <_robert> i don't know how to do that
[03:33] <apachelogger> ...for videos ;-)
[03:33] <Kyral> Now if only I could get it to use GST
[03:33] <CheeseBurgerMan> _robert: Double click on it, Ark should open
[03:33] <Parkotron> What engine does Codeine use?
[03:33] <Kyral> Xine
[03:33] <apachelogger> muahaha
[03:33] <noiesmo> apachelogger, man i must be mushroom never heard of codeine
[03:33] <lwizardl> hi
[03:34] <apachelogger> god will sue you for that
[03:34] <apachelogger> noiesmo: maybe ;-)
[03:34] <_robert> it opened now what should i do?
[03:34] <CheeseBurgerMan> Extract it. It's a purple icon
[03:34] <lwizardl> how can i get my mouse to function properly? i have a 5 button mouse (2 buttons for backward or forward page)
[03:35] <Kyral> Only thing about Codeine is that it doesn't integrate into Konversation
[03:35] <Kyral> ie, via the /media command
[03:35] <Kyral> Sysinfo for 'HyperDream': Linux 2.6.16-beyond running KDE 3.5.2, CPU: AMDAthlonXP2700+ at 2166 MHz (4337 bogomips), , RAM: 933/1011MB, 91 proc's, 1.16h up
[03:35] <_robert> i've done that
[03:35] <Kyral> Then again I'm running ArchLinux on my Desktop :P
[03:36] <Tm_T> :)
[03:36] <Tm_T> 04:36 Irssi uptime: 116d 7h 23m 39s
[03:36] <Kyral> Laptop and Server I need reliability, a fire and forget solution
[03:36] <Kyral> for my Desktop however... :D
[03:37] <CheeseBurgerMan> _robert: Have you extracted it?
[03:37] <_robert> yes
[03:37] <Tm_T> let's see if this irssi stay running a whole year
[03:37] <CheeseBurgerMan> OK, open the folder you extracted it to.
[03:38] <Kyral> but yah, Archlinux is quite nice :D
[03:38] <Kyral> I can recompile my system in one command if I feel like it (good for a binary based Distro)
[03:38] <_robert> i've done that
[03:39] <CheeseBurgerMan> _robert: Is there a gear icon?
[03:39] <_robert> where would i find that at?
[03:39] <CheeseBurgerMan> In the folder you extracted the program to.
[03:39] <CheeseBurgerMan> It'll say 'executable file' at the bottom of konqueror when you select it
[03:40] <_robert> i've gotten to that point
[03:41] <CheeseBurgerMan> OK, double click on that.
[03:41] <CheeseBurgerMan> It should run.
[03:41] <_robert> the only thing i've seen is a list of code
[03:42] <CheeseBurgerMan> What are you trying to run?
[03:42] <_robert> now i'm trying to install flashplayer
[03:42] <CheeseBurgerMan> Ah
[03:43] <CheeseBurgerMan> It should ask if you accept the license agreement
[03:43] <CheeseBurgerMan> press yes..
[03:43] <CheeseBurgerMan> or...type yes ;)
[03:44] <_robert> i've seen a few folders and i see a flashplay-installer folder what should i do with that?
[03:44] <Barbelos> _robert: There is probably an installer script, called something ending in either .sh or .bin
[03:45] <Barbelos> _robert: That script has to be executable for you to run it, or you'll only open it in a texteditor
[03:45] <CheeseBurgerMan> _robert: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?action=show&redirect=Flash#head-f375cba46014e861cd5ec7643bd7c4ef05acff2b
[03:45] <Barbelos> _robert: The easiest way to install flash, java etc. on 5.10/breezy is something called automatix, google for it and download that instead. Should be instructions somewhere on the ubuntu forums
[03:45] <noiesmo> _robert, if you've installed flashplayer in firefox then you can dele the flashplay-install its just temp
[03:46] <CheeseBurgerMan> !automatix
[03:46] <ubotu> from memory, automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[03:46] <Barbelos> _robert: or do what CheeseBurgerMan says, click that link
[03:46] <CheeseBurgerMan> Yeah, saves me from trying to explain it when I don't have it in front of me. ;)
[03:47] <_robert> thank you
[03:47] <_robert> brb
[03:47] <Barbelos> ubotu: Well, it does things like add things to your sources.list and download gpg-keys. Some might consider that unsafe.
[03:47] <ubotu> Barbelos: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[03:48] <CheeseBurgerMan> lol
[03:48] <Barbelos> ubotu: _robert is trying to install flash-plugin :D
[03:48] <ubotu> okay, Barbelos
[03:48] <LeeJunFan> Barbelos: ubotu is a bot
[03:48] <CheeseBurgerMan> ubotu is a bot. :P
[03:48] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, CheeseBurgerMan
[03:48] <CheeseBurgerMan> lol
[03:48] <LeeJunFan> !flash
[03:48] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:49] <Barbelos> LeeJunFan: Wow, it fooled me :p
[03:49] <CheeseBurgerMan> hehe, wish I could say I was involved in programming it. ;)
[03:49] <Barbelos> Should have seen the "!thingy" and understood what it was
[03:51] <regeya> I can tell I haven't used windows for a long while.  just spent the better part of an afternoon helping my mom set up 2 computers to connect to each other via ad-hoc wireless networking and on one, share a dialup (hey, they can't get dsl or cable) connection.  at home I set up 2 machines to share a dialup connection and connect via ethernet in about 10 minutes.
[03:51] <regeya> and that was on this box.
[03:52] <CheeseBurgerMan> regeya: Yeah, I typed 'su' into a command prompt
[03:52] <CheeseBurgerMan> and froze windows. :|
[03:53] <regeya> 1. install dnsmasq and ipmasq.   2. set up dnsmasq.  3. set up the ethernet settings on both  5. run pppconfig 6. edit  /etc/network/interfaces 7. restart networking 8. done.
[03:53] <lwizardl> whats a good program to display a slideshow like windows image viewer
[03:53] <Barbelos> CheeseBurgerMan: I keep trying to do XWindows cut n'paste. Sometimes several times and getting increasingly annoyed before I realise
[03:53] <lwizardl> ?
[03:53] <regeya> CheeseBurgerMan: the sad thing is, it would have been easy had I realized that the vendor-provided software on both windows boxes was creating this big FSU situation
[03:53] <Barbelos> lwizardl: Gwenview has a nice slideshow-feature
[03:53] <CheeseBurgerMan> regeya: Yeah, it pays to look.
[03:54] <_root> ola
[03:55] <regeya> CheeseBurgerMan: heh, not bashing windows, but I suppose I"m bashing the culture around it...this business of absolutely, positively convincing the end-user that nothign will work unless you use the crappy software they provide.
[03:55] <regeya> I felt oddly at home when I realized that if I just used the os-provided tools and drivers I'd be fine. :-}  still, I love the fact that on my home box I don't have to resort to running a wizard to get dns caching and ip masquerading running.
[03:56] <regeya> or at least that there are well-documented ways...I'm sure it's possible without the stupid connection wizard.
[03:56] <CheeseBurgerMan> regeya: True, but it's easier with wizards. ;)
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[03:56] <CheeseBurgerMan> especially for the non-techincally inclined
[03:56] <regeya> <away reason="shower" />
[03:57] <regeya> CheeseBurgerMan: did you seriously lock up a windows box by typing 'su'?
[03:57] <regeya> how the devil...
[03:58] <regeya> oh wait...nevermind...shower time.
[03:58] <CheeseBurgerMan> yeah, it was stupid.
[03:58] <CheeseBurgerMan> haven't duplicated it yet though
[03:58] <CheeseBurgerMan> later however
[03:58] <Barbelos> make[1] : *** No rule to make target `distclean'.  Stop.
[03:58] <Barbelos> :(
[03:59] <regeya> Barbelos: sounds like the makefile doesn't have a 'distclean' rule!  bummer.
[03:59] <Barbelos> regeya: Teaches me to try to build an app called pornview
[04:00] <regeya> Barbelos: heh, can't get the ubuntu package working?  I think it's in universe...lemme check...
[04:00] <Barbelos> regeya: It is, but it's not playing well with my installe libxine
[04:00] <regeya> all this after I mark myself away.  I'm such a doofus.
[04:00] <Barbelos> regeya: So - apt-build :)
[04:00] <regeya> you installed libxine by hand?  wowsers.
[04:01] <regeya> I keep typing in the password for my login on my work machine.  I think that should tell me something...
[04:01] <Barbelos> regeya: No problem if you have all the dependencies from plf and that cyber-whatsitsname
[04:03] <Steil> are there going to be any kopete 0.12 beta packages in the kubuntu repos?
[04:05] <Barbelos> Steil: I know it's not built for dapper, but I'd be surprised if no third-party packager didn't make them
[04:10] <Kyral> I'm glad Kerry is in general use now...
[04:11] <Kyral> but Beagle still goes on a RAM usage spree whenever I fire up the Daemon...
[04:14] <Barbelos> Kyral: Beagle always seems to take up way too many resources here. A shame though. I especially like the way it indexes browsing and IM as well as files
[04:14] <Kyral> oyah
[04:14] <Kyral> You'd think they would make it index SLOWLY
[04:14] <Barbelos> Kerry's really a much nicer gui than the ones for gnome I think
[04:15] <Kyral> yah
[04:15] <Kyral> but still, as soon as I start it my RAM usage goes through the roof
[04:15] <Kyral> I mean I can see for the initial building of the Index...
[04:17] <Kyral> but afterward...it should just act like a daemon and update the index when it notices a change
[04:18] <Barbelos> Kyral: I just had to stop using it here * sigh *
[04:21] <theripper> anyone using ati x800 card???
[04:28] <jonathan_> barb....did you ever get dapper installed :)
[04:30] <jonathan_> just wondered if you had heard of updates on the unbooting cd's
[04:30] <jonathan_> \
[05:13] <lwizardl> hello
[05:14] <elijahlofgren> lwizardl: howdy
[05:29] <Flying_Eagle> hi
[05:40] <lwizardl> anyone get java 1.4 installed and working ?
[05:41] <lwizardl> i can't seem to get it to work and 1.5 isn't compatible with the java ap
[05:41] <lwizardl> *app
[06:03] <frank23>  !java
[06:03] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[06:09] <Wizz_Kidd> Connection to CUPS server failed. Check that the CUPS server is correctly installed and running. Error: the IPP request failed for an unknown reason.
[06:09] <Wizz_Kidd> wtf?
[06:29] <Tallia1Kubuntu> hello?
[06:29] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i need a fast help
[06:29] <Tallia1Kubuntu> do you know where i can find a list of DNS server IP?
[06:30] <Tallia1Kubuntu> the local network have some problems and their local DNS is not working
[06:30] <Wizz_Kidd> heheheheheh
[06:30] <Tallia1Kubuntu> some windows computer particularly have problems
[06:34] <qpwoeiruty> Tallia1 - a list of what dns servers?
[07:00] <Den> Hi - Since doing an apt upgrade yesterday on my Dapper system, the login to KDE returns immediately to the login screen - is this issue known to the KDE people?
[07:02] <Den> Hi - Since doing an apt upgrade yesterday on my Dapper system, the login to KDE returns immediately to the login screen - is this issue known??
[07:03] <Den> Anyone here?
[07:03] <LeeJunFan> Den: working on mine.
[07:04] <LeeJunFan> Den: do you get the splash screen at all?
[07:04] <Den> LeeJunFan: U are running Dapper with a recent (yesterday or today) apt update?
[07:04] <LeeJunFan> Den: today
[07:04] <Hobbsee> working here too
[07:04] <dell500> anyone know an easy backup solution for 184gb on dvds?
[07:05] <Den> LeeJunFan: Yes, I get the splash, I enter my pw, it acts like it's logging in, then goes back to the login screen.
[07:05] <Hobbsee> dell500: second hard drive?
[07:05] <LeeJunFan> to he11 with DVD's, get an external HD :)
[07:05] <dell500> i've got a raid array of 2 120satas, which i need to disassemble to put linux on 1 sata, and backup on the second, and i need to backup my stuff anyway
[07:05] <nalioth> Den: watch your private messages
[07:05] <dell500> true dat lol
[07:05] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Den about xhangs
[07:05] <Den> LeeJunFan: It had a failure in Adept doing an update - the ??kubuntu-docs package wouldn't install, which caused it to not install a new version of desktop
[07:06] <dell500> how long would that take to transfer? like a day on usb2?
[07:06] <Hobbsee> dell500: got no idea
[07:06] <LeeJunFan> Den: I had that too but it shouldn't interfere with anything else.
[07:06] <LeeJunFan> Den: try apt-get -f install to get missing deps.
[07:07] <LeeJunFan> Den: as of right now that kubuntu-docs thing seems fixed too.
[07:07] <dell500> i'll just wait till i can get an external
[07:08] <Den> nalioth: What does this mean? " rm .{X,ICE}authority"  ?  Specifically, the ".{X,ICE}authority" ?
[07:08] <LeeJunFan> dell500: time or money?
[07:08] <LeeJunFan> Den: it means to rm .Xauthority and .ICEauthority
[07:09] <LeeJunFan> the {X,ICE} matches either X or ICE.
[07:09] <Den> LeeJunFan: Actually, I did an apt-get update,  apt-get dist-upgrade today, and it didn't complain again, just updated some stuff, but still failed to log in.
[07:10] <LeeJunFan> Den: perhaps add a new user and login as that user to see if tis' system wide problem or just that user.
[07:10] <nalioth> Den: it is a terminal command (console)
[07:10] <Borg^Queen> hi has anyone here used the kopete /kaddressbook feature that allows you to start a chat from within kaddressbook?
[07:10] <Den> Will someone please give me info or a url to what the problem with X & ICE authority is/was?
[07:10] <Borg^Queen> I'm having trouble getting it to work on 3.5.2
[07:11] <Borg^Queen> Den what's the problem?
[07:11] <LeeJunFan> Den: also maybe /var/log/kdm.log would have clues, but I think since you are getting past kdm to splash screen probably not.
[07:11] <nalioth> Den: it means to open a failsafe session and type "rm .ICEauthority " and then "rm .Xauthority"
[07:11] <Den> nalioth: thx
[07:11] <Hobbsee> Den: does it give you a dcop error at all?
[07:12] <Den> Hobbsee: I don't know what that is.  It doesn't give any error msg to the screen - it just goes back to the login screen.
[07:12] <Hobbsee> ah ok
[07:12] <Hobbsee> if that doesnt work, cd .kde && rm *-(user)
[07:13] <Hobbsee> as well, and see if that fixes it
[07:13] <Den> nalioth: Is the X,ICEa... a new or old/longstanding problem?
[07:19] <nalioth> Den: it can be quite common
[07:19] <Den> nalioth: What causes it?
[07:19] <nalioth> Den: not doing the following causes it
[07:19] <nalioth> !kdesu
[07:19] <ubotu> Use kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions and the config files.   If it is not working, you may need to run "sudo adept-updater"
[07:19] <nalioth> !gksudo
[07:19] <ubotu> Use gksudo to run gtk applications with root privileges. Using sudo to start gtk apps can scramble your user account permissions.
[07:22] <Den> nalioth: Ah!  I recall doing a "sux" then "konqueror &" sometime before that login problem began.
[07:23] <Den> nalioth: But, I often do that & never had this problem befgore.
[07:25] <Den> nalioth: regarding ubotu saying "if it isn't working you may deen to run sudo adept-updater" - what doesn the "it" refer to, and do you recomment I run sudo adept-updater now to try to fix this?
[07:29] <Den> Anyone - is there a GUI way to run some application (say konqueror) as root, ie, by just clicking something, rather than having to go to a command shell & typing "kdesu progname"?
[07:33] <Den> How do I add a new user in console mode that will be allowed to log into the KDE desktop?  Just "adduser"?
[07:34] <Den> Has this channel died?  I'm not gettng any response here - Will someone please msg me if you can read this?
[07:35] <|DS|Svenstaro> adduser will do.
[07:35] <Den> |DS|Svenstaro: thx
[07:36] <|DS|Svenstaro> now can anyone tell me please how to "tab" back to the xserver after i tabbed into a virtual console?
[07:36] <crimsun> alt+F7
[07:38] <Den> How do I get the ctrl-alt-f1 console to be 1024x768, not 640x480, (on a laptop Sony vaio)?
[07:39] <nalioth> Den: alt-f2
[07:39] <Den> nalioth: ??
[07:40] <nalioth> Den: click the alt key and the f2 key in sequence (thumb and forefinger)
[07:40] <Den> nalioth:  does ctrl-alt-f2 not work?
[07:40] <nalioth> idk what ctrl-alt-f2 does
[07:40] <nalioth> it does nothing for me
[07:40] <Den> nalioth: I've been doing ctrl-alt-f1, that get's me a 640x480 console
[07:41] <nalioth> Den: 00:30 < Den> Anyone - is there a GUI way to run some application (say konqueror) as root, ie, by just clicking something, rather than having to go to a         _RossH command shell & typing "kdesu progname"?
[07:41] <nalioth> dammit
[07:41] <nalioth> Den: the answer to what i just pasted is "alt-f2"
[07:42] <LeeJunFan> Den: you could always make either a menu entry or desktop application icon and set the command to be kdesu [whatever you want to run] 
[07:42] <Den> nalioth: Hm.  Ok, I just tried alt-f2, it brings up a gui dialog about running a command.  I want to get to the text mode, which on my Debian partition gives me a 1024x768 text console.
[07:43] <nalioth> Den: you asked about a GUI way to run things as superuser
[07:43] <Den> LeeJunFan: thx, but I want to run _many_ commands - I want a console session, not just 1 command.
[07:43] <nalioth> Den: if you want a text console, tend to your ~/.bashrc for its measurements
[07:43] <Den> nalioth: thx
[07:43] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Den about bum
[07:45] <Den> nalioth: actualy, I want a text console not under KDE - Because, given my current inability to log into kde, I'm gonna have to be in a text console (ctrl-alt-f1), and that is tiny compared to the1024x768 that is doab le under debian.
[07:46] <nalioth_zZz> Den: read your private message
[07:47] <Den> nalioth_zZz: If you mean about bum, i read it, thx.  If you mean something esle, I seel nothing else.
[07:50] <nalioth_zZz> yes, bum will let you boot into a console
[07:50] <nalioth_zZz> the size of the console is up to you and your ~/.bashrc
[07:50] <nalioth_zZz> good night
[07:51] <Den> Thanks everyohne :)
[08:03] <AlleyOop> did I hear this right the Kubuntu, may be ending as a distro?
[08:03] <AlleyOop> the/that
[08:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> no, it wont
[08:05] <elknof1> hello
[08:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> links in question : (take the first one more seriously) http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/1917 and http://www.osnews.com/comment.php?news_id=14283&limit=no&threshold=-1
[08:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi elknof1
[08:05] <elknof1> ey men
[08:05] <elknof1> just a question
[08:05] <elknof1> what file should I download to install limewire??
[08:05] <elknof1> the rpm??
[08:06] <elknof1> i have kubuntu
[08:06] <elknof1> 5.10
[08:06] <Hobbsee> the deb
[08:06] <elknof1> but i didnt find the deb
[08:06] <elknof1> theres only bin
[08:07] <Hobbsee> !compile
[08:07] <ubotu> A nice howto about compiling software from source code can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (but remember to search !apt first, after adding all the !repos)
[08:07] <AlleyOop> http://kubuntu.de/ so the article on the front page of this site isn't correct?
[08:07] <Hobbsee> !limewiere
[08:07] <ubotu> Hobbsee: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:07] <Hobbsee> !limewire
[08:07] <ubotu> first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila. Consider !frostwire as an alternative.
[08:07] <Hobbsee> elknof1: ^
[08:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> AlleyOop: it's over the top
[08:08] <elknof1> lol  men, i just have 3 days qith this OS, so how do I install java??
[08:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> heh.
[08:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> !java
[08:08] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
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[08:08] <elknof1> thanks men
[08:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> don't asume gender online :)
[08:09] <elknof1> ok ok
[08:09] <elknof1> thanks
[08:09] <Hobbsee> hehe
[08:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> hehe.
[08:10] <Hobbsee> :P
[08:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[08:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> lier? :O *cries*
[08:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> wb dipnlik
[09:09] <Den> Will someone please look at http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/650818 & help me with a "Login to KDE fails - return to the login screen"?  Paste is copy of /var/log/kde....  Thanks :)
[09:11] <Den> Anyone here?
[09:11] <theball> yeh
[09:11] <theball> sorry bit out of it
[09:11] <theball> whats up Den
[09:11] <Den> theball: can you look at that pastebin ^
[09:12] <theball> yes give me a minute please
[09:12] <Den> ?
[09:12] <Den> Thanks - waiting.
[09:13] <theball> i see the log let me try and figure it out
[09:14] <Den> theball: Yesterday I Adept upgraded Dapper, & it died saying something like kde-docs couldn't be installed, & that caused kde to not install cause it depended on the kde-docs.
[09:15] <Den> theball: The Adept upgrade refused to continue, & after logging out, I could login, but got immediately returned to the login screen.
[09:15] <theball> actually it isnt the docs, mine said the same thing and still does
[09:16] <theball> error opening security policy file /etc/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy
[09:16] <theball> this is what seems to be the problem, I am trying to decipher it but iam not all that good.
[09:18] <Den> theball: thanks :) - should I perhaps ask on ubuntu+1, or ask someeone else here (if there _is_ anyone else here)?
[09:18] <theball> just a min, i think i have a solution
[09:18] <Den> theball: By the way, upon advice from here earlier today, I created a brand new user, adduser, and the same thing happened when I tried to log into the new user account.
[09:21] <Den> theball: Also, someone mentioned that I migt have screwed up some config files when running konqueror from a root console  ----    <ubotu> Use kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions and the config files.   If it is not working, you may need to run "sudo adept-updater"   ----    Perhaps that's the cause of the security policy file problem?
[09:24] <cfraz89> i find that sometimes running konq from root terminal
[09:24] <theball> this seams to be a common deb problem, found lots oh stuff but have not found a definative answer on how to solve except to update  kde  install
[09:24] <cfraz89> causes my .ICEauthority file to be owned by root
[09:24] <cfraz89> which stops me from logging in
[09:25] <Kamping_Kaiser> same happens with k3b and nautilus
[09:26] <theball> it appears that if you can find the securitypolicy and copy it over to where the error is looking for it it should solve the problem,
[09:26] <Den> theball: In your last comment, are you suggesting that what I need to do to solve this is update kde install?
[09:27] <theball> now and then it gets copied to the wrong location
[09:27] <theball> read last 2
[09:27] <Den> theball: I don't know anything about "find the security policy & coopy it over" - How do I do that?
[09:28] <Den> theball: Any idea how the error opening sec policy file came to exist?
[09:29] <theball> just a sec please looking at my system for the poss solution
[09:31] <Den> theball: There is no directory /etc/X11/xserver on that system.
[09:31] <theball> mine either as i have just found
[09:32] <theball> upon further reading this seems to be your clich i think!
[09:32] <theball> krootimage: WARNING: failed to load SVG file /usr/share/wallpapers/kubuntu-wallpaper.svgz
[09:33] <Den> theball: clich = ??
[09:33] <theball> the security policy seems to be a problem trying to load this picture
[09:33] <theball> glitch
[09:33] <theball> sory
[09:33] <theball> apperantly when you set up thingfs as root you changed a picture and now it cant find it
[09:34] <Den> theball: I don't recall ever having set up things as root
[09:36] <theball> well i must say i think that i have used up the depth of my knowledge on you problm sorry i could not give you a solution.
[09:36] <Den> theball:
[09:36] <Den> /usr/share/wallpapers# ll kub*
[09:36] <Den> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1272112 2006-04-06 07:17 kubuntu-wallpaper.png
[09:36] <Den> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root      94 2006-04-06 07:17 kubuntu-wallpaper.png.desktop
[09:36] <Den> theball: So, that file doesn't exist
[09:37] <Den> theball: Should I just make one there?
[09:37] <theball> /usr/share/wallpapers/kubuntu-wallpaper.svgz make this one!
[09:37] <theball> not png
[09:40] <Den> theball: If I "cp moon.svgz kubuntu-wallpaper.svgz" - Do you think that would be a fix?
[09:40] <theball> yes
[09:40] <theball> that should do it
[09:40] <Den> theball: Doesn't it seem strange, though, that KDE login would fail just cause it can't find a wallpaper file???
[09:41] <Den> theball: That seems an excessively severe failue mode for such a small problem.
[09:42] <theball> i agree but thats all the info i could find on the security issue, it is looking for a root based file as a user.
[09:42] <Den> theball: Any thoughts??  & Thanks :)
[09:42] <theball> krootimage: WARNING: failed to load SVG file /usr/share/wallpapers/kubuntu-wallpaper.svgz:::::   the krootimage is what trip my thoughts
[09:44] <Den> theball: Thanks. :)   And, if that fails, do you think I might try apt uninstalling kde then apt installing kde?
[09:46] <Den> Thanks all :) bye
[09:46] <theball> it appears to be a problem with the xorh file not the kde or gnome type of problem, please find more expert help and thanks for letting me try and help you. cheers
[09:46] <theball> xorg
[09:47] <Den> theball: So, if it won't work now, should I de then re install xorg?
[09:47] <theball> i am sorry but i dont know, not enough knowledge
[09:47] <Den> theball: thx:)
[09:47] <theball> see u
[09:52] <mornfall> Riddell: *poke*
[09:54] <_matt__> hi
[09:55] <Bambino> Morning people, would somone please be so kind and explain how i can repair my konsole? The files kcm_konsole.la and .so got missing and to konfigure the konsole is not working
[09:56] <cfraz89> maybe you couldtry dpkg -repair ?
[09:59] <yuion> how to update my system?
[09:59] <cfraz89> sudo apt-get update, then sudo apt-get upgrade
[10:00] <cfraz89> or use adept updater
[10:00] <yuion> cfraz89, thanks
[10:01] <cfraz89> np
[10:01] <Bambino> cfraz89 how do i dpkg repair>
[10:01] <cfraz89> sorry i meant apt-get repair
[10:02] <cfraz89> wait
[10:03] <cfraz89> im not sure where i saw it now
[10:05] <cfraz89> try using adept
[10:05] <cfraz89> and right click on konsole and click request reinstall
[10:06] <Bambino> k
[10:06] <Bambino> thanks
[10:20] <kameron> anyone have spca5xx drivers working in dapper? this is the driver for icm32 based webcams..
[10:20] <Tm_T> I do
[10:26] <Den> Hi - would someone please help me with a login failure?  See http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/650892  Thanks! :)
[10:28] <Den> Anyone here?
[10:37] <dr3as> had a nice html editor before, but can't remember the name, can anyone help?
[10:39] <antoine> salut tout le monde
[10:40] <cfraz89> quanta + ?
[10:40] <Antartika> ils se trouvent o les dpots plf?
[10:40] <Antartika> pour dapper
[10:41] <cfraz89> deb http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/ dapper free non-free
[10:41] <Antartika> ben ils ont pas l'air de marcher :/
[10:42] <Antartika> quand tu regardes y'a que un dossier breezy
[10:42] <Antartika> sur le serv
[10:42] <cfraz89> only works with breezy?
[10:43] <cfraz89> ah
[10:43] <vge> hey, should i update to breezy from dapper when i now have fresh install of it :\
[10:43] <vge> i mean other way around :)
[10:43] <cfraz89> lol yeah
[10:43] <cfraz89> go for it
[10:43] <cfraz89> dapper rules
[10:44] <vge> well ill get the flight6 then
[10:44] <Antartika> oups i havent think that it should be english here ^^
[10:44] <cfraz89> lol np
[10:47] <vge> somebody can tell me why my network just died on old install, no ifconfig output, cant use ifup, nothing wrong in interfaces config :\
[10:47] <Tepi|> Hey! How I can check bitrate with kubuntu?
[10:47] <Tepi|> I mean .avi files etc
[10:48] <cfraz89> kaffeine will show them
[10:49] <cfraz89> player->track info
[10:49] <Tepi|> yeah
[10:49] <Tepi|> thx <3
[10:49] <cfraz89> np
[10:52] <vge> hmm, i can do deb package from sources when compiling?
[10:53] <vge> dapper has same 1.0.7 ff in repos?
[10:53] <Antartika> no
[10:53] <Antartika> 1.5
[10:53] <vge> kk, saves some time, ty
[10:54] <Hodi> hi, i have a problem. when i try to start adept i get this message:"You will not be able to change your system settings in any way (install, remove or upgrade software), because another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one." and im not able to update my linux. is there something i can do?
[11:02] <vge> Hodi: check that you dont have another apt-get session opened
[11:03] <burepe> Could someone tell me how to network with a windows computer and share files on my kubuntu box with the windows comp? I have been at it for a while.
[11:04] <vge> burepe: install ssh to the linux machine
[11:04] <Hodi> im sure thath theres no other apt-get session opened, that's why im asking u
[11:04] <vge> or samba
[11:04] <cfraz89> yeah samba
[11:04] <cfraz89> kubutu makes it really easy
[11:05] <cfraz89> Hodi:possibly theres a lock file that got left behind
[11:05] <burepe> I got samba but I don't know how to set it up properly
[11:05] <cfraz89> you dont need to
[11:05] <burepe> I have been trying.
[11:05] <cfraz89> theres a system settings thing for it?
[11:05] <cfraz89> i had to set it to advanced
[11:05] <burepe> You mean i gui setting?
[11:05] <cfraz89> add the users
[11:05] <cfraz89> yes
[11:05] <cfraz89> and then set it to simple again
[11:06] <burepe> I can't work it.
[11:06] <vge> find it in kcontol
[11:06] <Hodi> cfraz89: how can i find such a log file (sry, im a newbie)
[11:06] <vge> kcontrol...
[11:06] <cfraz89> im not really sure, im new to kubuntu
[11:06] <cfraz89> search for .lock maybe?
[11:06] <cfraz89> locate:.lock
[11:06] <cfraz89> in konqueror
[11:06] <Hodi> ok, thx
[11:07] <Hodi> hm, nothing
[11:07] <burepe> cfraz89, I want to share files other than the home directory so I can't use simple right?
[11:07] <cfraz89> it is apparently /var/cache/apt/lock
[11:08] <cfraz89> oh ok
[11:08] <cfraz89> advanced then
[11:08] <burepe> then what
[11:08] <burepe> the other comp can't see the linux box
[11:08] <cfraz89> add the users which you want to use samba
[11:09] <cfraz89> after that you can right click on any folder in konqueror and click on share
[11:09] <cfraz89> i think i had to restart samba after setting it up though
[11:09] <cfraz89> not sure
[11:09] <burepe> by use samba what do you mean? Under the allowed users button?
[11:10] <cfraz89> yes
[11:10] <burepe> so I checked "allow all users to share folders", ok?
[11:11] <cfraz89> yes
[11:11] <burepe> now
[11:11] <cfraz89> ok
[11:11] <burepe> share the folders right?
[11:11] <cfraz89> yes
[11:11] <burepe> Ok i got one shared.
[11:11] <burepe> Now what.
[11:11] <cfraz89> after you press apply just then
[11:11] <burepe> This is what I did before.
[11:11] <cfraz89> you might want to run /etc/init.d/samba restart
[11:11] <cfraz89> in sudo
[11:11] <burepe> ok
[11:11] <burepe> that is what i didnt do
[11:12] <cfraz89> im not sure if you need to
[11:12] <burepe> how does the linux box know the network name?
[11:12] <vge> http://www.howtoforge.com/samba_setup_ubuntu_5.10 <// this one i followed i think way back
[11:13] <cfraz89> it creates its own workgroup called mshome
[11:13] <burepe> Is this normal? /etc/init.d/samba restart
[11:13] <burepe> oops
[11:13] <burepe> this? * Starting Samba daemons.. /usr/share/samba/panic-action: line 48: mail: command not found
[11:13] <burepe> /etc/init.d/samba: line 24: 19702 Aborted                 start-stop-daemon --start --quiet --oknodo --exec /usr/sbin/smbd -- -D
[11:13] <burepe>                                                                          [fail] 
[11:13] <cfraz89> hmm
[11:15] <burepe> wata4wa
[11:16] <vge> make a new user to your system, then install ssh and connect with ssh to that client :)
[11:17] <cfraz89> try uninstalling and reinstalling samba
[11:17] <burepe> what is the new user command ?
[11:17] <burepe> adduser?
[11:18] <zmo> useradd
[11:18] <burepe> its adduser
[11:20] <burepe> almost done
[11:21] <vge> then use http://www.ssh.com/support/downloads/secureshellwks/non-commercial.html or putty or something on the windows machine
[11:22] <vge> if your in a hurry
[11:23] <burepe> cfraz89, whats next
[11:24] <burepe> vge, whats next
[11:24] <cfraz89> you reinstalled samba?
[11:24] <burepe> yeah
[11:24] <cfraz89> ok
[11:24] <cfraz89> try using the systemsettings again
[11:24] <cfraz89> advanced, all users, apply
[11:24] <cfraz89> restart samba
[11:24] <burepe> under filesharing or samba?
[11:25] <burepe> just to make sure
[11:25] <cfraz89> sharing
[11:25] <burepe> ok
[11:25] <cfraz89> samba would never work for me in mandriva
[11:25] <cfraz89> it just worked here
[11:25] <vge> http://www.howtoforge.com/samba_setup_ubuntu_5.10_p4 << i think this is a good copypaste guide
[11:27] <burepe> cfraz89, start-stop-daemon: warning: failed to kill 20165: Operation not permitted
[11:27] <burepe>                                                                          [ ok ] 
[11:27] <burepe>  * Starting Samba daemons.. /usr/share/samba/panic-action: line 48: mail: command not found
[11:27] <burepe> /etc/init.d/samba: line 24: 20252 Aborted                 start-stop-daemon --start --quiet --oknodo --exec /usr/sbin/smbd -- -D
[11:27] <Hodi> I found a lock file in /var/lib/dpkg/ but i cant delete it, i also tryed with the console
[11:28] <cfraz89> hmm
[11:28] <Hodi> and when i delete it with the console it dissapears, but if i try to start adept it returns and blocks
[11:28] <cfraz89> did you use sudo?
[11:28] <Hodi> yes
[11:28] <cfraz89> hmm
[11:28] <Hodi> sudo rm lock
[11:28] <cfraz89> also burepe?
[11:28] <cfraz89> sudo?
[11:28] <Hodi> no
[11:28] <Hodi> ?
[11:29] <cfraz89> sorry Hodi, im not sure
[11:29] <burepe> then  * Starting Samba daemons.. /usr/share/samba/panic-action: line 48: mail: command not found
[11:29] <burepe> /etc/init.d/samba: line 24: 20252 Aborted                 start-stop-daemon --start --quiet --oknodo --exec /usr/sbin/smbd -- -D
[11:29] <burepe>                                                                          [fail] 
[11:29] <cfraz89> burepe, did you use sudo?
[11:29] <burepe> nope
[11:29] <cfraz89> use it
[11:29] <cfraz89> sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[11:29] <Riddell> mornfall: hmm?
[11:29] <burepe> cfraz89, got through
[11:30] <burepe> now what
[11:30] <cfraz89> ok
[11:30] <cfraz89> find the folder you want to share in konqueror
[11:30] <cfraz89> right click on it
[11:30] <cfraz89> click on share
[11:31] <burepe> vge, thanks for the link. I am gonna see where cfraz89 takes me and if it don't work Ill try yours. thanks
[11:31] <burepe> ok
[11:31] <burepe> sweet
[11:31] <burepe> got it
[11:32] <burepe> done
[11:32] <burepe> works
[11:32] <burepe> You know the key is that samba restart
[11:32] <burepe> I have been doing this for ages
[11:32] <burepe> same thing
[11:32] <burepe> with out the restart and it never worked
[11:32] <cfraz89> cool
[11:32] <burepe> Thanks so much
[11:33] <cfraz89> np
[11:33] <cfraz89> the tool should do it for you
[11:33] <burepe> I had one more question maybe you could help me with. Not too hard.
[11:33] <Den> Hi - Would you help me with a "KDE login immediately returns to the login screen" problem???  See http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/650892  I've been told by #xorg that the "error opening security policy file /etc/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy" isn't an error, & it seems to be a KDE problem - where do I look for the KDE cause of auto-logout?
[11:34] <burepe> I just did a reinstall and in my last install I had
[11:34] <burepe> oop
[11:34] <burepe> Den I had the same problem
[11:34] <cfraz89> ?
[11:34] <burepe> install ubuntu-desktop
[11:34] <Den> burepe: When did you get the problem, & how did it get fixed?
[11:35] <burepe> cfraz89, sorry let me just tell him how to fix this
[11:35] <cfraz89> ok
[11:35] <vge> Den: you loggedoff and started X from command line and only error it gave was that error opening security policy?
[11:35] <burepe> I installed ubuntu-desktop and then it will ask you which desktop manager you want choose the ubuntu-gnome one not the kde one
[11:35] <burepe> and then you can sign in
[11:36] <burepe> I did a reinstall after that but I think the problem is something to do with the file permissions of the home folder.
[11:37] <burepe> Beyond that I never figured it out but that will get you a working machine
[11:37] <Den> vge: No, I didn't " loggedoff and started X from command line ", I just got the login screen on boot up, & that error was in /var/log/kdm...something
[11:37] <vge> try to loggoff to command line and type startx
[11:38] <vge> i just think its a xorg.conf error
[11:38] <Den> burepe: When did you have that error? Was it on Dapper?  It seems crazy to have to install ubuntu-gnome when I want kde - that kinda seems that the KDE developers are buggy.
[11:38] <burepe> it is a kde log-in problem so if you switch to gnome you can get it. I read about this proble happening with people who had fat32 partitions and the wrong permissions for the home folder, but I think this might be different
[11:39] <burepe> you can use kde you just have to sign in with the gnome log in
[11:39] <burepe> if you want to get past the log in screen that is how you do it. Then work on fixing the problem.
[11:39] <burepe> you can always change it back once you fix it.
[11:40] <Den> vge: Are you a kde developer or user?  Any idea how this problem came to exist on my system\?  I'd just done and Adept upgrade, which failed due to (kde-docs??) - this is with dapper.
[11:40] <burepe> I got it after the power went out in my house. I am not a developer.
[11:40] <vge> Den: your kde comes to login screen when you type right password to kdm?
[11:40] <burepe> I am useing breezy
[11:40] <Den> burepe: Dappper?
[11:41] <burepe> I am useing breezy
[11:42] <Den> vge: I boot, get kde login screen (dapper) It has my user name, I enter pw, it flashes the screen & comes back to the login screen, no password error message.  If I deliberately misspell the pw, I get a pw error msg, so I think my pw is typed correctly.
[11:42] <cfraz89> Den: it says that for me too
[11:42] <burepe> this is what happens right? From the kde log in screen you log in, it waits for a sec and then goes black, then the grey x screen with the x comes up, then it goes back to the kde log in screen.
[11:42] <cfraz89> i dont think it is the error
[11:42] <Den> cfraz89: It sas what?
[11:42] <vge> its a xorg.conf error...
[11:43] <vge> reboot to console and type startx
[11:43] <cfraz89> bout securiypolicy
[11:44] <vge> X cant start so it flashes it and returs to kdm
[11:44] <Den> vge: OK, I can try that, but how will that cause the bug to be fixed?
[11:44] <vge> you see what fails
[11:44] <Den> vge: What good is it going to do to restart it if it fails upon boot?
[11:44] <Den> vge: ok
[11:45] <Den> vge: How do I "reboot to console"?
[11:45] <vge> when you get your login screen, there is buttons below, some say, console something, im not 100% sure
[11:46] <cfraz89> control alt f1 will switch to konsole
[11:46] <cfraz89> *console
[11:46] <cfraz89> then just stop x
[11:46] <Den> vge: yes, but kde will already/still be running - how do I "stop x"?
[11:47] <Den> ??
[11:47] <Den> cfraz89: how do I "stop x"?
[11:47] <burepe> cfraz89, sorry about that. This is the question :I just did a reinstall and in my last install one I was using several different media players to watch various video formats. I tried to do what I did before and install the same programs but it seem that I can only use vlc at the moment. All the other ones say the codecs are missing. What package am I missing that lets me use the other programs?
[11:48] <vge> well the X aint runnig when you get your login screen
[11:48] <cfraz89> maybe win3scodecs?
[11:48] <burepe> vge but the log in screen is x isn't it?
[11:48] <cfraz89> also xine has xine1cs
[11:48] <burepe> cfraz89,  cool thanks.
[11:48] <vge> http://art.ubuntu.com/images/thumbnails/gdm_greeter/kubuntu_breezy_badger_tn.png
[11:49] <Den> vge: um, if I boot dapperr, it starts X & brings up the KDE login.  If I ctrl-alt-f1 & get to a console, X is still running - how do I stop X?
[11:49] <burepe> killx I think
[11:49] <cfraz89> sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[11:49] <cfraz89> burepe: i hope thats right
[11:49] <cfraz89> i only use xine
[11:49] <cfraz89> i downloaded win32codecs and xine1c2
[11:50] <burepe> I tried to use xine but I couldnt figure out the path in the gui. I couldnt get to  the /
[11:51] <cfraz89> did you use kaffeine?
[11:51] <vge> Den: when your in kde login, use the buttons below the login to use the nongraphic login, when there, type startx
[11:51] <vge> no altf1
[11:52] <cfraz89> burepe: i always use kaffeine or kmplayer for xine
[11:52] <Rayman> my OpenOffice hangs anytime I use a File etc menu from the top
[11:52] <vge> KDM (KDE Display Manager) is a graphical login interface for computers using Unix-like operating systems.  << kdm is not kde nor x
[11:52] <Rayman> I'm on dapper kubuntu
[11:53] <Den> vge cfraz89 burepe everyone: Thaks :)
[11:53] <burepe> cfraz89, sorry got booted
[11:53] <cfraz89> np :)
[11:53] <burepe> den
[11:53] <burepe> did you fix it?
[11:53] <Den> burepe: gotta reboot & try
[11:54] <burepe> cfraz89, what were the packages
[11:54] <cfraz89> xine1c2 is the extra opensource codecs
[11:54] <burepe> tell me what happens I sould like to know
[11:54] <cfraz89> and win32 codecs is:
[11:54] <burepe> ok
[11:54] <cfraz89> !win32codecs
[11:54] <ubotu> I guess win32codecs is binary only codecs that some call evil., and they're available from http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/
[11:55] <vge> burepe: for you also: KDM (KDE Display Manager) is a graphical login interface for computers using Unix-like operating systems.  << kdm is not kde nor x
[11:55] <burepe> thanks
[11:55] <cfraz89> np
[11:57] <burepe> cfraz89, I have both thoes files already but I can't use a lot of programs. Strange
[11:57] <cfraz89> hmm
[11:58] <mae> I can't get amarok to play mp3 files in latest dapper, i did mae@omega:~$ sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad
[11:58] <cfraz89> so you have all xine codecs?
[11:58] <burepe> how do I get to the / in xine
[11:58] <cfraz89> burepe: use kaffeine, it helps
[11:58] <cfraz89> mae, install xine1c2
[11:59] <mae> what happen to the gstreamer engine for amarok
[11:59] <burepe> in kaffine it says cant access remote files because my files are on a second hard drive, hdb1
[11:59] <cfraz89> it has a new 0.10 engine
[11:59] <cfraz89> but i dont thnk dapper has it
[12:00] <mae> i have xine
[12:00] <cfraz89> oh i see
[12:00] <mae> but doesn't play mp3
[12:00] <cfraz89> can you use mount point?
[12:00] <cfraz89> mae: xine1c2 is a codecs package for it
[12:00] <burepe> kaffeine says "you can only select local files". I could use files from that drive in the las install
[12:01] <cfraz89> did you try typing in mount point up top?
[12:01] <cfraz89> instead of using system:/
[12:02] <burepe> there were no decoders found to handle the stream you might need to install corresponding plugins
[12:02] <burepe> it said
[12:02] <burepe> yeah that worked the mount point
[12:02] <burepe> thanks for that
[12:02] <cfraz89> what type of file is it?
[12:02] <cfraz89> np
[12:02] <burepe> xvid
[12:03] <cfraz89> hmm
[12:03] <vge> !freeformats
[12:03] <ubotu> There are a large number of Free Formats which are preferred over patent and copyright encumbered formats. They are listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[12:05] <burepe> I dont really understand all these engines. It seems like any player can use any engine
[12:05] <burepe> how do I get to the / in xine?
[12:05] <XVampireX> Hi
[12:06] <burepe> there is boot bin cdrom bootstrap dev and etc
[12:06] <burepe> but no /
[12:06] <XVampireX> Is there an easy way to get a quick file server on kubuntu?
[12:06] <cfraz89> usually /media
[12:06] <cfraz89> XVampireX: kde has a small web server applet
[12:06] <burepe> from where?
[12:06] <cfraz89> which is really useful
[12:06] <Tepi|> is there any other way to check bitrate than kaffeine?
[12:06] <XVampireX> cfraz89: what's it called?
[12:07] <cfraz89> Public File Server
[12:07] <cfraz89> just go to add applet
[12:07] <cfraz89> on kicker
[12:07] <XVampireX> oh, ok, cool
[12:07] <burepe> cfraz89, I just dragged and dropped in to xine and it works. would be nice to use kaffiene too though. Totem doesnt work also.
[12:08] <cfraz89> ok
[12:08] <XVampireX> Public File Server?
[12:08] <cfraz89> yep
[12:08] <XVampireX> Does it work over the internet?
[12:08] <cfraz89> yes
[12:08] <cfraz89> so burepe, you wen to open file in kaffeine
[12:08] <Tepi|> is there any other way to check bitrate than kaffeine?
[12:09] <noteventime> Are there any kaffeine 0.8 debs ready yet?
[12:09] <burepe> yeah cfraz89
[12:09] <cfraz89> i want that deb too
[12:09] <cfraz89> then just go up till you get to /
[12:09] <cfraz89> then go to media
[12:09] <cfraz89> and hdb should be mounted
[12:09] <burepe> I got that part
[12:09] <cfraz89> ther
[12:09] <burepe> it is the file type
[12:09] <cfraz89> ?
[12:09] <burepe> it doesnt recognize the codec
[12:09] <cfraz89> oh
[12:09] <burepe> totem too
[12:10] <cfraz89> but works in xine-ui?
[12:10] <burepe> xine and vlc are independent i think
[12:10] <burepe> totem and kaffiene use the codecs from some collective place
[12:10] <cfraz89> yes
[12:10] <cfraz89> yep
[12:10] <cfraz89> they both use xine
[12:10] <burepe> !restricted formats
[12:10] <ubotu> methinks restricted formats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'
[12:10] <burepe> really?
[12:10] <cfraz89> yes
[12:11] <cfraz89> i think they can both use gstreamer too
[12:11] <burepe> so if xine works the the others should too
[12:11] <cfraz89> but primarily xine for kaffeine
[12:11] <burepe> gstreamer
[12:11] <os2mac> anyone got a wag on the current sched release date for badger?
[12:12] <vge> i can tell you, but then id had to kill you
[12:13] <noteventime> badger? next ubuntu release?
[12:13] <noteventime> :)
[12:14] <vge> www.badgerbadger.com
[12:14] <noteventime> :/
[12:14] <noteventime> (^-^)
[12:15] <burepe> cfraz89,  I think it might be the kaffeine-xine package
[12:15] <noteventime> ok...
[12:16] <noteventime> Is there any official code name for 6.10 (6.11?)
[12:16] <Den> How can I completely remove all KDE stuff from Dapper, then reinstall it?
[12:17] <noteventime> remove kdelibs?
[12:17] <noteventime> or kdebase
[12:17] <vge> Den: why_
[12:17] <Den> noteventime: Can you say _for sure_?
[12:17] <noteventime> No ^^, sorry I'd have to try myself
[12:18] <vge> byteway, was i correct that your X crashed?
[12:18] <Den> vge: Cause I can't get a fix on this logout immediately problem, I've spent about 6 hours on it - I'd just like a simple way to get a known basic setup, fast.    Any suggestions?
[12:18] <vge> what was the startx error?
[12:18] <Tepi|> hey! is there any other way to  check bitrate than kaffeine? :)
[12:19] <Tepi|> help me, pls :)
[12:19] <cfraz89> what about sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop?
[12:19] <Den> vge: When I went to root in console, did /etc/init.d/kdm stop, then did a startx it started as root & went right into KDE desktop - no login, but not as a user, as root, & no error.
[12:20] <cfraz89> Tepi| i think if you have arts-xine installed konqueror tells you in the file tips
[12:20] <Mangusta> only good way to be able to remove kubuntu is to install it with aptitude, not apt-get, then removing it with aptitude will remove all packages installed with kubuntu-desktop, unless they have been since updated/changed...
[12:20] <vge> Den: why didint you do sudo startx_
[12:21] <Den> cfraz89: Can you say for sure that apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop will work?
[12:21] <Mangusta> howeer, you could try reinstalling it with aptitude, then uninstalling
[12:21] <Mangusta> neway, gym time
[12:21] <Den> vge: I was root, I didn't need to do sudo
[12:22] <burepe> Den before you uninstall kde, do you have another gui?
[12:22] <Den> burepe: no other gui, just kubuntu
[12:22] <burepe> You should install gnome or xfce and then do what you are planning cause if you mess up you are gonna have a gui less system
[12:22] <vge> Den: well the X starts ofcourse with the user whos logged in, would have been nice to see the error message when you would have logged in with your normal user
[12:23] <burepe> it you install gnome you can use your comp while you work out the problem
[12:23] <burepe> do sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[12:23] <Den> vge: I don't think there _is_ an error message - there is no error - it just immediately logs out....?
[12:24] <burepe> then choose the gnome log in manager,
[12:24] <vge> you dont see X failmessages when you use KDM
[12:24] <Den> burepe: Thanks - but I've no desire to complicate the systgem with gnome.
[12:24] <burepe> then sign in to gnome and do sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop
[12:24] <burepe> you are doing it the hard way.
[12:25] <Den> Are there any Ubuntu KDE developers here?
[12:25] <burepe> You have spent six hours on a problem that i already went through. good luck
[12:25] <Den> burepe: You went through this on Dapper?
[12:25] <vge> Den: ill check your problem in 14Mins, eaven if you can sort it out, i still think ill try it
[12:26] <Den> vge: I don't understand your comment
[12:26] <burepe> it is not dapper but it is clearly the same problem
[12:26] <Den> burepe: What did you do to fix it?
[12:28] <burepe> I eventually reinstalled but I had a temporary fix by changing the log in manager by installing gnome.
[12:28] <burepe> But i spent hours doing what you did and everyone told me to just reinstall.
[12:30] <burepe> at least with gnome you can use the comp while you look for the solution, No kde and no gnome is all command line. seems like it might be harder. but whatever... good luck.
[12:30] <vge> burepe: command line is not a decase
[12:34] <burepe> vge, I know it is a handy tool just as a gui is. When fixing a problem I like to have both. To each their own.
[12:35] <_jer> hi. i'm having problems installing xine. it says
[12:35] <_jer> configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[12:35] <vge> well, if my download ends soon, ill see whan i can do with is
[12:36] <cfraz89> _jer, you need to apt-get install build-essential
[12:37] <_jer> cfraz89: sorry, i don't get it, newbie here =)
[12:37] <vge> and installing from sources?
[12:39] <_jer> help!
[12:39] <cfraz89> _jer, open up a konsole and type in sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:39] <cfraz89> or install it from adept
[12:39] <nico8481> hi
[12:39] <cfraz89> its just a package which contains all the compilers
[12:39] <_jer> ah, ok. i'll try
[12:41] <sorush20> how do I get konqueror buttons like backspace to move me to the previous webpage and act just like windows... or are there any other shortcuts I need to know about>?
[12:41] <vge> check kcontrol button shortcuts
[12:47] <_jer> cfraz89, i did it.. then tried ./configure again.. says
[12:47] <_jer> configure: error: zlib needed
[12:53] <Bambino> How do I update my konversation?
[12:53] <vge> if newer is available, try adept
[12:58] <_jer> where can i get zlib?
[12:58] <_jer> configure: error: zlib needed
[01:01] <vge> _jer: adept or apt/get
[01:08] <spg> hi to all
[01:08] <spg> can anyone tell me if the last version of kubuntu includes kde4?
[01:09] <phazeman> can someone please give a link to a full sources.list file with universe and multiverse inside ? i can't connect to my home machine to get it from there...
[01:09] <phazeman> spg: it probably won't
[01:09] <spg> :(
[01:12] <cfraz89> phazeman: here ill paste it up
[01:13] <phazeman> cfraz89: where ?
[01:13] <cfraz89> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/651046
[01:13] <phazeman> thanks !
[01:13] <cfraz89_away> its for dapper
[01:14] <cfraz89_away> np
[01:14] <phazeman> yeah thats what i need
[01:14] <cfraz89_away> shouldnt be hard to adapt to breezy though
[01:14] <cfraz89_away> ok
[01:14] <phazeman> thanks much
[01:18] <twosouls82> tristanmike: long time no see ;)
[01:18] <twosouls82> hi all
[01:24] <j1_> Anyone here?
[01:25] <robotgeek> j1_: do you ahve a question?
[01:26] <nico8481> robotgeek: yup he just asked it :-)
[01:26] <robotgeek> nico8481: haha
[01:26] <j1_> robotgeek: No, thanks, just wanted to see if ne1 could hear me.
[01:26] <j1_> :)
[01:26] <robotgeek> !ping
[01:26] <ubotu> pong
[01:56] <tomplast> hi
[01:57] <tomplast> can anyone tell me why 3ddrivers have suddenly stopped working with my 686 kernel but works fine with my 386 kernel?
[02:01] <OdyX> tomplast today's update ?
[02:02] <tomplast> nah it started yesterday
[02:02] <tomplast> it could be something with  my graphics card
[02:02] <OdyX> well .. after an update ?
[02:02] <tomplast> windows is now in 640*480 (4 bits)
[02:02] <tomplast> cant change that
[02:03] <OdyX> hum....
[02:03] <OdyX> nvidia ?
[02:03] <tomplast> but  i got higher resolution in kubuntu
[02:03] <tomplast> and nvidia works  with the 386 kernel
[02:03] <tomplast> and did work with the 686 kernel before too
[02:03] <tomplast> but it suddenly stopped
[02:03] <OdyX> really.. I don't know
[02:04] <tomplast> oki
[02:04] <tomplast> :/
[02:04] <OdyX> I had updates today ... but as thoggen is running (for 12 hours now).
[02:04] <tomplast> i guess 386 kernel will  be okay
[02:05] <tomplast> it isnt that slow
[02:05] <OdyX> I will probably reboot.... tomorrow :-(
[02:05] <tomplast> k
[02:05] <OdyX> slow is little word.
[02:16] <j1_> Hi - what is the name of the "Master package for KDE" to install to get all of KDE installed in Ubuntu? - or, if not _all_, at least a working KDE system?
[02:17] <jjesse> kubuntu-desktop
[02:17] <me2win> j1_: kubuntu-desktop
[02:19] <kubuntutaotao> j1_: kubuntu-desktop  kde-i18n-zhcn  kdm  kaffeine-mozilla
[02:21] <theine> Hi, does KDE write an event log while it's running?
[02:25] <OdyX> theine: /var/log/kdm.log at least...
[02:26] <vge> why when i click "show desktop" button, desktop is minimized, but when in the desctop ill try to make a new folder with mouse2, the dropped down content jumps back up?
[02:27] <OdyX> vge: Dapper or Breezy ? I heard about such a bug... maybe take a look in bugs.kde.org or Launchpad.
[02:27] <visik_> vge: doesn't work like this for me
[02:27] <vge> dapper an breezy
[02:28] <visik_> kde ?
[02:28] <vge> yup
[02:28] <vge> 3.5.2
[02:28] <visik_> I use 3.5.2 and works without problems for me
[02:29] <vge> visik_: did you actually push the "create new Folder" option?
[02:30] <visik_> oh
[02:30] <visik_> u r right
[02:30] <humboldt> does anybody have any idea what could be the reason my Skype gets disconnected about every minute? This does not seem to be a problem with skype but with some other service interfering. Unfortunately it appears via either LAN and WLAN connection. Any Ideas?
[02:30] <vge> kinda annoying
[02:31] <j1_> jjesse: me2win kubuntutaotao :  I wiped KDE off Dapper with "apt-get remove libqt3-mt", then did a "apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" then "install kde-core" -- when I do cd /etc/init.d, ./kdm start, I get a login screen, login, BUT then all I get is a gui desktop, one console window, no task bar, no start menu, & right click on desktop does nothing & the console window has no top bar to grab & move it around - any suggestion of what els
[02:31] <vge> somebody knows where i can report this or where to repot thease in general?
[02:32] <twosouls82> how do I create official (K)Ubuntu packages?
[02:32] <jjesse> j1_: sorry i don't know :(
[02:32] <Hobbsee> twosouls82: wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuPackagingGuide
[02:32] <twosouls82> Hobbsee: thanks mate
[02:34] <twosouls82> :) quite a lot of work/learning to do I see
[02:34] <Hobbsee> twosouls82: yeah...
[02:35] <Hobbsee> :)
[02:37] <Smeggy> ahh
[02:37] <Smeggy> goddamn I love Konqueror
[02:37] <vge> i dont
[02:37] <vge> hmm, somebody has broadcom wireless drivers that work in dapper?
[02:38] <kubuntutaotao> j1_: if apt source had a problem? i had phenomena as same as you once upon a time.
[02:38] <Smeggy> the ones included with it work in dapper vge
[02:38] <Smeggy> vge: you just need to add some firmware
[02:38] <Smeggy> and put it into /lib/firmware
[02:38] <vge> Smeggy: i know
[02:38] <vge> Smeggy: im just lazy :)
[02:38] <Smeggy> theres a firmware deb somewhere lol
[02:39] <vge> is there? :)
[02:39] <Smeggy> one sec
[02:40] <Smeggy> http://ubuntu.cafuego.net/pool/bcm43xx/bcm43xx-firmware_1.0-0ubuntu1_i386.deb
[02:40] <Smeggy> apparently that works :)
[02:40] <vge> thats easy enough :)
[02:42] <Cin> amaroK is really the shit. Wow.
[02:42] <Smeggy> isnt it just :D
[02:43] <Cin> Can't wait for 1.4. :)
[02:45] <Cin> Haha, wow a style browser. Awesome.
[02:46] <epinephrine> amarok roks. :>
[02:46] <Cin> Hehe. roKs. :P
[02:46] <Smeggy> :D
[02:47] <Smeggy> its the best media player on any platform by a long shot
[02:47] <epinephrine> shame it's not on windows
[02:47] <Smeggy> yeh
[02:47] <epinephrine> (please don't hurt me) ;P
[02:47] <Smeggy> no i agree
[02:47] <Smeggy> and mac osx too :D
[02:48] <visik_> http://pastebin.com/651200 <- what does it mean ?
[02:49] <ugner> is it true that ubuntu has dropped kubuntu support?
[02:49] <Hobbsee> ugner: no.
[02:49] <frank23> ugner: where did you hear that
[02:49] <Cin> A GNOME user? :P
[02:49] <epinephrine> :o
[02:49] <ugner> frank23: /. or osnews
[02:52] <Riddell> ugner: /.?
[02:52] <frank23> Hobbsee: what is that all about? The local ubuntu websites have nothing to do with Ubuntu right?
[02:53] <frank23> Riddell: http://www.osnews.com/
[02:53] <ugner> Riddell: /. is a site with people talking about mostly technology related news
[02:53] <Hobbsee> frank23: see Riddell's response to it:  http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/1917
[02:53] <OdyX> kameron: OK :D
[02:53] <ugner> Riddell: some sorta forum
[02:53] <kameron> OdyX, :D
[02:53] <ugner> http:///..com
[02:53] <Riddell> ugner: but there's no kubuntu story on it.  thank goodness
[02:54] <OdyX> kameron: it was not supposed to be agressive...
[02:54] <xanax`> salut
[02:54] <ugner> Riddell: http://slashdot.com
[02:54] <kameron> OdyX, oh, it wasn't taken that way. i just tried to explain a bit. it's all good bud.
[02:54] <Hobbsee> Riddell: yeah, if it had gone to slashdot...ouch...
[02:54] <ugner> Riddell: then it must be osnews
[02:54] <Hobbsee> ugner: FYI - it's .org
[02:54] <OdyX> kameron: fine.
[02:54] <Hobbsee> it's osnews, yes
[02:54] <ugner> i salute you too
[02:54] <Hobbsee> and most of the comments are either innacurate or just plain wrong.
[02:54] <Riddell> Hobbsee: I think even slashdot is not that stupid.  only osnews is
[02:55] <Hobbsee> hehe!
[02:55] <ugner> Hobbsee: oops, right
[02:55] <ugner> Riddell: http://slashdot.org
[02:55] <Hobbsee> Riddell: i thought that ubuntu-$lang sites were hosted on cannonical servers...
[02:56] <Riddell> Hobbsee: ubuntu-xx.org yes but not kubuntu.de
[02:56] <Hobbsee> or did i misread that in a CC meeting, where someone was once asking for hosting
[02:56] <Hobbsee> well, yeah...clearly :P
[02:56] <Hobbsee> what about kubuntu-$lang ones?
[02:57] <OdyX> Riddell: it's not the case for ubuntu-fr.org, ubuntu-de.org
[02:57] <Riddell> Hobbsee: canonical registered all the ubuntu-xx domains, they didn't do that for kubuntu but can do if someone wants to start up a website
[02:57] <Hobbsee> ah ok...i see
[02:57] <OdyX> Hobbsee: in the french community, we decided to hold everything on ubuntu-fr.org, even everything K-related.
[02:58] <OdyX> Hobbsee: but work is on for different CSS, kubuntu-fr.org tld and all the stuff.
[02:58] <Riddell> OdyX: I guess the french and german communities got to those domains before canonical did :)
[02:59] <Hobbsee> lol
[02:59] <OdyX> Riddell: the fact is I don't know who has the tld's, but the servers at least are NOT canonical's
[02:59] <OdyX> Riddell: Apinc
[02:59] <Riddell> David LARLET
[03:02] <OdyX> Riddell: Yep titus@apinc.org
[03:02] <vge> would be nice if adept had "time left" assuming when downloading lots of packets
[03:08] <ugner> which one is newer, deb or rpm?
[03:08] <kubuntutaotao> ugner:what's your means?
[03:09] <Hobbsee> !+rpm
[03:09] <ubotu> hmm... rpm is the Redhat Package Management file. Very similar to Debians DEB files, but require alien to install. ask me about !alien
[03:09] <Hobbsee> !+deb
[03:09] <ubotu> To install a .deb file: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb  (but note that the program you want might be installable using !apt from the !repos)
[03:09] <noteventime> or gdebi
[03:09] <noteventime> gdeb is graphical deb installer
[03:09] <noteventime> gdebi*
[03:09] <Hobbsee> true
[03:10] <Hobbsee> i think there's one for kde too...right click to install the deb?
[03:10] <OdyX> Hobbsee: it works...
[03:10] <noteventime> I don't know, I'm fine with gdebi
[03:10] <ugner> kubuntutaotao: my means??
[03:10] <OdyX> Hobbsee: awful but works.
[03:10] <Hobbsee> vge: it's there already
[03:11] <Hobbsee> true
[03:11] <ugner> which packaging system is more recently invented, deb or rpm?
[03:11] <Hobbsee> ugner: you'd have to look at wikipedia for something trivial like that
[03:11] <ugner> Hobbsee: trivial? hehehe
[03:12] <ugner> Hobbsee: i want to know which one is more inovative
[03:12] <Hobbsee> well, what difference does it make?  they're totally different
[03:12] <kubuntutaotao> ugner:yeah.
[03:12] <ugner> kubuntutaotao: oh, ok
[03:14] <ugner> ir/inovative/innovative/
[03:14] <noteventime> ugner, Just a question how would you know which one is more innovative by knowing when they were released?
[03:14] <noteventime> :P
[03:14] <mhterres> morning
[03:14] <noteventime> 'ello
[03:15] <ugner> noteventime: nobody releases an obsolete replacement of something, say, five years older. right?
[03:16] <noteventime> ugner, :/ not totally true, there are always "yet another"
[03:16] <noteventime> Subversion
[03:17] <noteventime> oh
[03:17] <noteventime> sorry
[03:17] <vge> Hobbsee: you were saying something to me?
[03:17] <noteventime> forget that about subversion
[03:17] <noteventime> ugner, I don't agree, but I agree that it would be stupid
[03:18] <noteventime> Still The earlyer can still develop
[03:18] <ugner> noteventime: agreed; i don't take release date as an ultimate proof of innovativeness myself.
[03:18] <Hobbsee> vge: yeah.  drat, sorry, i thought you were talking about apt-get, not adept...
[03:18] <noteventime> So lets say RPM was first, dpkg comes later. RPM can still be more innovative by having better developers
[03:19] <noteventime> gtg, bbl
[03:19] <Hobbsee> ugner: google rpm hell.
[03:20] <Hobbsee> or check out wikipedia, on both deb and rpm
[03:24] <phazeman> !tell phazeman about firefox
[03:25] <noteventime> !firefox
[03:35] <kujeger_work> say, how can I check what's using the alsasink?
[03:38] <sorush20> I'm unable to mount a floppy in kubuntu
[03:38] <sorush20> I have kde 3.5.2
[03:38] <Chameleon22> whats a floppy?
[03:38] <sorush20> floppy disk
[03:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> is it a clean install?
[03:42] <sorush20> how can you guys now know what a floppy is?
[03:43] <vge> maby he was referring to the fact that floppys are not that popular anymore
[03:44] <Mars^> Hi, someone connecting psp to kubuntu by wi fi?
[03:45] <sorush20> when I click on the floppy icon in konqueror I get this message.. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11964
[03:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> sorush20: you havent answerd my question
[03:48] <sorush20> Kamping_Kaiser: no its not.. don't tell me you have to do a clean install every time you want to mount by click a floppy?
[03:49] <sorush20> I can mount it manually.. but them i'm getting read errors..
[03:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> sorush20: a clean Kubuntu Breezy install has floppy  mounting issues
[03:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> you sure the disc is ok?
[03:50] <sorush20> well I'm scanning it with windows computer...
[03:51] <sorush20> why isn't the drivers like windows more convinent.. like fsck.vfat should not be done from the command line it should also be able to do it from right click on the floppy icon.. just like any fully gui OS
[03:51] <dipnlik> Kamping_Kaiser: wow. were these issues already fixed in dapper?
[03:52] <sorush20> US is going to bomb my country too...
[03:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> dipnlik: yeh
[03:52] <sorush20> man kina makes you wonder whether its worth reading past the first line of the UN charter..
[03:52] <dipnlik> Kamping_Kaiser: k, thanks :)
[03:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> dipnlik: :)
[03:53] <dipnlik> Kamping_Kaiser: installed dapper flight 6 yesterday at home
[03:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> great. hows it goig for you?
[03:54] <dipnlik> Kamping_Kaiser: so far so good, just didn't like at all the default colorscheme
[03:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> i havent seen it
[03:54] <dipnlik> Kamping_Kaiser: went back to plastik and some less brighter colors
[03:54] <Hobbsee> haha yeah
[03:54] <Hobbsee> dipnlik: dont panic, it's being redone..
[03:55] <dipnlik> Hobbsee: :)
[03:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> FK. i don't have a chroot on here atm
[03:56] <dipnlik> Kamping_Kaiser: oh, i remembered a little problem. i couldn't set my screen resolution to 1152xanything :S
[03:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> bugger :/ got it sussed, or need a hand?
[03:57] <dipnlik> Kamping_Kaiser: using 1280x1024 there, no problems with it, but it would be nice if i could set it to 1152
[03:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> what's it on? fancy hardware of some sort?
[03:57] <dipnlik> Kamping_Kaiser: but i'm at work now, maybe some other time i'll try to fix this
[03:58] <dipnlik> Kamping_Kaiser: nothing unusual, i believe
[03:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> yeh.cool :)
[03:58] <dipnlik> Kamping_Kaiser: ati radeon 9200, IIRC
[03:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> i'm at home atm :)
[04:00] <davide> ah ca nun parla nissuno
[04:06] <foobar> hi there, how do I get libtunepimp-bin package recompiled to accept .mp3 files? I'm on dapper and can't use the musicbrainz feature in amarok
[04:07] <Flying_Eagle> hi
[04:08] <Flying_Eagle> whats goin with kubuntu.de?
[04:08] <Hobbsee> Flying_Eagle: http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/1917
[04:08] <Flying_Eagle> are their activities in any way justified?
[04:09] <Hobbsee> read the blog.
[04:09] <Flying_Eagle> i did
[04:09] <Flying_Eagle> but i cant understand it
[04:09] <Flying_Eagle> its just too paradox
[04:09] <Hobbsee> everyone's made a massive deal of it, when they didnt need to.
[04:10] <noteventime> Is there any way to make apps preload in kubuntu?
[04:11] <Flying_Eagle> depends on the app
[04:11] <Flying_Eagle> i think there are packages for firefox and openoffice
[04:11] <Flying_Eagle> and konqueror has "built-in"-preload-ability
[04:11] <noteventime> ok, It's mosly firefox I'm after anyway
[04:12] <noteventime> I've only been able to find it for window :/
[04:13] <Hobbsee> Kamping_Kaiser: hehe...that's a good idea.  i deleted all of it
[04:13] <noteventime> Cool, there is a preload deamon
[04:13] <Hobbsee> noteventime: there is, howto on ubuntuforums.org  - i didnt see it make that much difference though
[04:13] <Kamping_Kaiser> Hobbsee: heh. that would do it
[04:13] <noteventime> ok
[04:13] <noteventime> !preload
[04:13] <ubotu> noteventime: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:14] <Flying_Eagle> noteventime, what about just saving firefox in your session and let it open at "boot"-time?
[04:16] <noteventime> Flying_Eagle, I don't want the firefox window to open :D
[04:16] <noteventime> I allready have stupid konversation doing that ^^
[04:17] <sorush20> does a floppy have to mounted or unmounted to be able to fsck.msdos?
[04:17] <sorush20> are windows xp floppies msdos format or vfat format?
[04:18] <noteventime> Try :)
[04:19] <Kamping_Kaiser> vfat usualy
[04:22] <slow-motion> hallo
[04:22] <noteventime> 'ello
[04:26] <noyr> Does anybody know how to configure network bridge in kubuntu using grafical interface? :] 
[04:28] <thor_> I have now given up getting those new nvidia drivers installed in Dapper. The last try messed up several permissions pretty bad. Screw you nvidia!
[04:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> thor_: realy? bad luck
[04:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> what's happeneed?
[04:33] <thor_> Kaiser: The driver seems to install just fine, I just can't get the xserver running. After reverting to a backup of xorg.conf after the last try, I couldn't get KDE up because of screwed up premissions. Got it fixed now, and purged all of nvidia from my system.
[04:33] <noteventime> thor_, What card are you using?
[04:33] <thor_> Maybe I'll try again when 6.06 is released, or maybe in flight 7. We'll see
[04:33] <thor_> go7300
[04:33] <noteventime> ok
[04:34] <noteventime> Have you tried installing the official onesfrom the webpage?
[04:34] <thor_> Yes, that's the ones causing trouble.
[04:35] <thor_> None of the guides work for me either. Not even tsEliot can help me. :)
[04:35] <noteventime> Why don't you install nvidia-glx?
[04:35] <thor_> I tried that. Didn't work either.
[04:36] <noteventime> What was the error?
[04:36] <thor_> I don't even remember. I've around so much with the drivers.....
[04:37] <noteventime> Trus me, I have an Intel card, I know how it feels :(
[04:38] <thor_> I'm beginning to think that Dapper is not ready for the drivers. lol...
[04:39] <noteventime> I've only installed nvidia legacy on my old desktop
[04:40] <slow-motion> bbl
[04:47] <sorush20> is there a good feed reader in konqueror.?
[04:48] <Hobbsee> sorush20: akregator
[04:50] <vge> hmm, i have broadcom card found when i check kcontrol, and have installed firmware too, but if i click "properties" in kcontrol about the wlan, kcontrol crashes?
[04:53] <RayFredPip> hello
[04:53] <RayFredPip> Ubugtu, hello?
[04:53] <Hobbsee> hi RayFredPip - what were you wanting?
[04:53] <me2win> hello
[04:53] <Hobbsee> ubugtu is a bot...
[04:54] <RayFredPip> Ubugtu,what is the difference between ubuntu and kubuntu?
[04:54] <humboldt> what process or daemon concering my WiFi network could force my connection offline for a splitsecond every minute, just enough to loose my skype connection?
[04:54] <me2win> RayFredPip: ubuntu uses the gnome desktop environment, kubuntu uses the KDE desktop environment
[04:54] <Hobbsee> RayFredPip: kde and gnome...
[04:55] <RayFredPip> Just the  environment of desktop?
[04:55] <RayFredPip> any other ....?
[04:55] <me2win> and the type of programs it uses
[04:55] <me2win> the programs are base don the environment though
[04:56] <RayFredPip> I am using ubuntu ,I want to use KDE environment ,so should I change my OS to Kubuntu?
[04:57] <dipnlik> RayFredPip: install the kubuntu-desktop package
[04:57] <mangusta> Where do I need to change to make kdm load as default window manager instead of gdm?
[04:57] <RayFredPip> Ubugtu, is there any defrag software for linux?
[04:57] <me2win> well the base of both is the ubuntu distribution. So you can either download a kubuntu iso and install fresh, or you can just get the kubuntu-desktop package, which will give you the KDE environment
[04:57] <mangusta> on startup it says, not starting gdm as it is not the default
[04:58] <RayFredPip> dipnlik, so it needn't to change OS
[04:58] <me2win> RayFredPip: no, the base is still ubuntu
[04:58] <mangusta> RayFredPip, just run apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:58] <me2win> kubuntu just packages KDE by default
[04:58] <RayFredPip> OK!thank you all of you here who give me a lot of free hands!
[04:59] <me2win> no problem
[05:01] <RayFredPip> me2win, does linux OS need some kind of defrag tool to do up disk ?
[05:02] <me2win> not sure what you mean
[05:02] <RayFredPip> me2win, I know in windows there should be have one ,while in linux ,is it necessary?
[05:03] <me2win> dont think so
[05:03] <me2win> try asking in #ubuntu
[05:04] <noteventime> RayFredPip, I dont think so
[05:04] <noteventime> I don't think the filesystem can get fragmented, But I dont know :/
[05:04] <me2win> yeh
[05:05] <RayFredPip> noteventime, thank you!
[05:05] <noteventime> np
[05:05] <noteventime> has anyone tried the mood meter?
[05:06] <me2win> mood meter?
[05:08] <buz> i dont think the moodbar stuff is available for kubuntu
[05:08] <buz> or at least i cant find it
[05:08] <noteventime> Ok
[05:08] <noteventime> I'd like to try mood bar
[05:08] <noteventime> Its a cool idea
[05:09] <RayFredPip> noteventime, what is the name of download software do you use?
[05:09] <mangusta> argh, can't get vpn client to work
[05:09] <buz> i cant say i like the new icons in amarok 1.4beta3
[05:09] <mangusta> just sits there sayting connecting
[05:09] <buz> but other than that, it's better than ever ;)
[05:09] <mangusta> no messages, no errors, nothing
[05:10] <mangusta> anyone know of a working pptp vpn client?
[05:10] <buz> mhh what is the other endpoint?
[05:10] <mangusta> pptp
[05:10] <buz> no further info?
[05:10] <mangusta> not sure of anything else
[05:10] <noteventime> RayFredPip, peer 2 peer or for the browser?
[05:10] <mangusta> not really, thats all I normally have to set
[05:11] <RayFredPip> noteventime, can flashget be uesd in ubuntu?
[05:11] <mangusta> gah, stupid boss, puts bad data into the database, then bitches cause he only gets rubbish out
[05:11] <noteventime> RayFredPip, The firefox extension?
[05:12] <buz> what is it with aptitude and it wanting to remove "orphaned" stuff upon upgrades?
[05:12] <RayFredPip> noteventime, OK! I love firefox,it is wonderful!
[05:12] <noteventime> ?
[05:12] <me2win> lol
[05:13] <noteventime> RayFredPip, It was a queston :D Did you by flashget mean the firefox extension?
[05:13] <noteventime> Yay, replay gain for FireFox
[05:13] <noteventime> amarok*
[05:13] <noteventime> hehe
[05:14] <me2win> lol
[05:15] <guillermito> Hi, I cant find the config file of mi dhcpclient. Does anybody know where it is?
[05:15] <guillermito> *my
[05:15] <noteventime>  /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf
[05:15] <noteventime> maybe?
[05:15] <me2win> noteventime: i cant believe how cool they made those wierd plasticy dudes look in the movie
[05:16] <noteventime> There is a silent hill movie?
[05:16] <guillermito> noteventime: but... it is all comented :(
[05:16] <guillermito> dont understannd!
[05:16] <me2win> noteventime: it comes out in a few weeks
[05:16] <noteventime> Take a look at the other files in /etc/dhcp3?
[05:17] <guillermito> well noteventime is this sentence right ? "ddns-updates off"
[05:17] <noteventime> me2win, Please till me it's not done by Uwe Boll
[05:17] <me2win> LOL
[05:17] <me2win> no its not
[05:17] <noteventime> good
[05:17] <noteventime> guillermito, I'm sorry, I don't know. What is it that you are trying to do?
[05:18] <guillermito> I'm trying to desactive the dhcp client for the dns
[05:18] <guillermito> y mean I want to put my own dns, y don want dynamic domain name server
[05:18] <Kano> hi Riddell , do you create also live cds?
[05:18] <guillermito> understandme?
[05:18] <noteventime> guillermito, Do it in /etc/networking/interfaces
[05:19] <foobar> i want to burn some .mp3 files on a cd for playback in normal cd players. is k3b converting mp3 automaticly? if not - what do I have to do?
[05:19] <guillermito> let's see
[05:19] <noteventime> foobar, Maybe there is a "burn music cd" in k3b?
[05:19] <foobar> yes, there is - but does it convert the mp3 files ?
[05:19] <foobar> dont want to waste my cds
[05:19] <Kano> !seen Riddell
[05:19] <ubotu> riddell is currently on #kubuntu (4d 11h 38m 34s) #ubuntu (4d 11h 38m 34s)
[05:20] <guillermito> noteventime: how do I do it
[05:20] <guillermito> I have no idea
[05:20] <noteventime> guillermito, Is there any reason you can't do it graphically?
[05:21] <guillermito> I don't even know how to do it graphically
[05:22] <noteventime> kcontrol -> internet & network -> Network Settings
[05:23] <Kano> is a kubuntu live cd maker here?
[05:23] <foobar> so noteventime: shall I just try it? isn't here anyone who did something like that before?
[05:23] <noteventime> foobar, I'm sorry, I don't even have a burner in my laptop (for some wierd reason)
[05:24] <guillermito> noteventime: but there I cant desactive ddns
[05:24] <noteventime> You'll have to try or ask someone else
[05:24] <foobar> hmm, nevermind - thanks
[05:24] <noteventime> guillermito, first press administrator mode, then Configure interface
[05:24] <noteventime> Then choose static ip
[05:26] <guillermito> I see, but my problem is I want dynamic ip but not dynamic dns
[05:27] <noteventime> guillermito, I think you can manually specify DNS in another tab
[05:28] <noteventime> Yes, there is a tab called "Domain Name System"
[05:28] <guillermito> yeah but there I dont know to desactive dynamic dns
[05:30] <gabius> how do i configure my sound with kubuntu?
[05:30] <gabius> the system did not found it automatically
[05:31] <guillermito> noteventime: it's okay thanks becouse of the help
[05:31] <guillermito> i think i'm trying it myself
[05:31] <guillermito> dont wanna waste your tim
[05:31] <guillermito> time
[05:33] <noteventime> guillermito, Np, try to specify a DNS yourself and see if it works .)
[05:33] <noteventime> It doesn't take much of my time :)
[05:37] <guillermito> noteventime: I've specifyed a DNS myself but when dhclient updates the DNS... the dns changes
[05:39] <noteventime> The only thing I can think of is specifying DNS in /etc/network/interfaces
[05:39] <noteventime> Although I don't know how to do that
[05:40] <noteventime> Google it :)
[05:40] <foobar> just for the protocol: k3b seems to be clever enough to decode them, i'll report later if everything works like expected :)
[05:40] <trappist> you do that in /etc/resolv.comf
[05:40] <trappist> *resolv.conf
[05:41] <guillermito> yes
[05:42] <lwizardl> how do i give full write access to a user ?
[05:42] <guillermito> i change the dns in /etc/resolv.conf but as I said when the dhcp client updates the dns changes the /etc/resolv.conf file
[05:43] <zmo> guillermito: you can supersede dhcp options in /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf
[05:44] <vijay> hi all, how to give /URL-path  in "Alias /URL-path /location_of_folder/"
[05:47] <OdyX> Hey. Somebody made ifplugd work on a laptop ?
[05:52] <noteventime> OdyX, ifplugd?
[05:52] <noteventime> Roaming support?
[05:53] <noteventime> If ifplugd is what i think it is i suggest you use network-manager-kde
[05:55] <OdyX> well...
[05:55] <OdyX> I have fixed IP in eth
[05:56] <OdyX> and I would like kubuntu to $ sudo ifdown eth0 when I unplug the cable.
[05:57] <noteventime> OdyX, network-manager-kde will do that
[05:57] <noteventime> Also works for wifi
[06:01] <lwizardl> how do i give my user account full write access ? some of my folders are root only writable it seems. Won't let me make any folders or place files into the folder
[06:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> lwizardl: chmod and chown
[06:03] <lwizardl> Kamping_Kaiser: explain please ?
[06:04] <walter> just installed kubuntu from ubuntu and can't find multimedia codecs to play wmv,asf,mpeg videos help...
[06:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> !restrictedformats
[06:05] <ubotu> I heard restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[06:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> lwizardl: you should open a terminal and type in 'sudo chown yourname.yourname' to make the files owned by you, or 'sudo chmod ???' to make the files editable by you
[06:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> ??? are replaced with numbers
[06:06] <guillermito> bye bye guys
[06:06] <lwizardl> so like suo chmod 777 but wouldn't i have to do that on all the folders ?
[06:06] <OdyX> noteventime: i have the networkmanager, but I don't get how it is supposed to work with my fixed IP.
[06:06] <OdyX> and how to configure.
[06:06] <OdyX> it
[06:07] <noteventime> It worked just by inatslling for me, but on the other hand I don't have a static ip
[06:07] <noteventime> s/intsliing/installing
[06:09] <OdyX> hum. I don't get where I can configure it really... because I can nowhere say which interface it has to manage, for ex.
[06:17] <noteventime> OdyX, It handles all interfaces
[06:17] <OdyX> noteventime: yeah, certainly, but how is it configurable...
[06:18] <OdyX> noteventime: I want precise IP, gateway and disconnecting way...
[06:18] <noteventime> It isn't you use kcontrol for that
[06:18] <noteventime> Then let network-manager ifup and ifdown you
[06:18] <OdyX> it comes then in /etc/network/interfaces ?
[06:19] <OdyX> but where can I talk to network-manager ?
[06:19] <noteventime> Its in the system tray
[06:21] <OdyX> noteventime: I see that... but I cannot configure it at all... activating WiFi, disactivating WiFi, and no more...
[06:21] <noteventime> OdyX, You cant configure network-manager
[06:21] <noteventime> There is nothing to configure
[06:21] <noteventime> You use the kcontrol module
[06:21] <OdyX> for fixed...
[06:22] <OdyX> OK...
[06:23] <noteventime> or system settings
[06:23] <OdyX> but my network does not go down when I unplug (physically) my eth' cable.
[06:23] <noteventime> Not?, Thats strange
[06:23] <OdyX> well.. AFAIK, it doesn't
[06:26] <OdyX> just tried rapid test... ping'ing in one console... and sudo ifdown eth0     then sudo ifup eth0  in another
[06:27] <OdyX> during disconnection, ping gave me "ping: sendmsg: Network is unreachable"
[06:28] <OdyX> then, I unplugged the cable, and my pings were simply lost...
[06:28] <OdyX> so it's not what should happen if my eth had been disconnected.
[06:34] <noteventime> OdyX, I'm sorry... Mine works like a charm so I don't know what the problem could be
[06:35] <OdyX> noteventime: OKay...
[06:35] <OdyX> noteventime: thanks indeed
[06:35] <cycus_zwisus> hello
[06:35] <noteventime> 'ello
[06:35] <cycus_zwisus> how to make kubuntu use nuvola icons in gtk2 applications?
[06:41] <nxv_> what to do if flgrxinfo doesn't show the correct graphic card type?
[06:57] <lwelyn> Seveas: how long will the bann for nothing last ?
[06:57] <lwelyn> Seveas: i just want to tell you that i reported this.
[06:57] <lwelyn> Seveas: A kickbann without any reason...well see..
[06:58] <robotgeek> lwelyn: i don't see it in #kubuntu, maybe better for you to take it in /msg?
[06:59] <lwelyn> iam sorry robotgeek .
[06:59] <robotgeek> lwelyn: np
[07:00] <duckdown> Can someone please tell me an IRC client for X that can actually handle ANSI escape codes?  XChat and kVirc are utterly useless
[07:00] <robotgeek> duckdown: not sure what you mean, but try konversation also :)
[07:01] <duckdown> robotgeek: Like the ^[ ANSI escape codes (They're used to colorize stuff, mainly in my eggdrops)
[07:01] <lwelyn> duckdown: and irssi :D
[07:01] <noteventime> duckdown, Have you tried konversation?
[07:01] <duckdown> lwelyn: Heheh yea, I like irssi, but I'm on over 20 channels, its annoying not being able to click tabs
[07:02] <lwelyn> hehe..okay..thats a good argument against it
[07:02] <duckdown> noteventime: I tried it, but there was no Proxy support I thought
[07:02] <noteventime> Are you using KDE?
[07:02] <duckdown> Yes sir, Kubuntu Dapper6 :)
[07:02] <noteventime> It uses global KDE settings
[07:02] <noteventime> IN kcontrol
[07:02] <duckdown> Ahh, okay, right on
[07:03] <duckdown> Thanks man, let me give it a shot..
[07:03] <noteventime> np :)
[07:03] <Somefilename> Anyone tried to make KDE look like Mac OS X before?
[07:04] <duckdown> blasphemy
[07:04] <duckdown> :P
[07:05] <Somefilename> duckdown, Blasphemy?
[07:05] <me2win> Somefilename: many people
[07:05] <robotgeek> Somefilename: someone had done it, google it :)
[07:05] <Somefilename> robotgeek, No - I made it too - using some photos - I just want to know how many people tried to make Kubuntu(because I couldn't).
[07:06] <me2win> Somefilename: everyone has done it really, there is even the Baghira package that does it entirely
[07:06] <Somefilename> me2win, I'm not talking about running an application to support all the images and fonts...
[07:06] <Somefilename> me2win, That's extra RAM and CPU usage.
[07:07] <robotgeek> Somefilename: then how else would you do it?
[07:07] <Somefilename> robotgeek, I told you - some photos(big, small, medium) and KDE 3.5.1.
[07:07] <me2win> what?
[07:07] <TheNightRider``> uhh
[07:07] <TheNightRider``> hey all
[07:08] <TheNightRider``> got another prob here
[07:08] <robotgeek> Somefilename: hm, okay. not interested though :)
[07:08] <robotgeek> !enter
[07:08] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[07:08] <robotgeek> TheNightRider``: that said, go ahead :)
[07:08] <duckdown> Hrmm, can I move the tabs from the bottom of the screen in Konversation?  Every single channel looks like 3 '...' cause I'm on so many of them.
[07:08] <TheNightRider``> anyone know how to "fill" an mp3 player in kubuntu?
[07:08] <duckdown> Like from the bottom to the left of the screen
[07:09] <robotgeek> duckdown: look in preferences/tabs, should be there somewhere
[07:09] <robotgeek> TheNightRider``: just copying the mp3 files doesn't work?
[07:09] <Somefilename> TheNightRider``, If you have problems with Kubuntu - don't use it anymore - use Slackware. :)
[07:09] <TheNightRider``> heh
[07:09] <TheNightRider``> is it better?
[07:09] <TheNightRider``> robotgeek, it doesnt detect it
[07:10] <duckdown> robotgeek: yeah I'm looking :(
[07:10] <robotgeek> TheNightRider``: hmm, can you type "dmesg | tail -f -" in a terminal, and then unplug/plug it back in
[07:10] <TheNightRider``> ill try
[07:11] <Somefilename> TheNightRider``, Hell yeah it's better - it's more close to the BSD system rather than the original Debian Linux.
[07:11] <TheNightRider``> so now what?
[07:12] <robotgeek> TheNightRider``: what message do you get? can you pastebin?
[07:12] <TheNightRider``> with the command?
[07:12] <TheNightRider``> sure
[07:13] <TheNightRider``> http://pastebin.com/651720
[07:13] <TheNightRider``> here
[07:14] <robotgeek> TheNightRider``: hmm, that did not work for some reason. (errors and stuff)
[07:15] <TheNightRider``> hmm
[07:15] <TheNightRider``> so nothing can be done?
[07:15] <robotgeek> TheNightRider``: can you just try dmesg | tail
[07:16] <TheNightRider``> http://pastebin.com/651726
[07:16] <Kev1n> i am using dapper.. usb problems. lsusb freezes ... lspci is fine any ideas
[07:17] <robotgeek> TheNightRider``: interesting, what mp3 player is this?
[07:18] <TheNightRider``> neo
[07:18] <TheNightRider``> very cheap
[07:18] <TheNightRider``> stolen too
[07:18] <TheNightRider``> lol
[07:18] <TheNightRider``> :D
[07:18] <robotgeek> !enter
[07:18] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[07:18] <TheNightRider``> sorry
[07:18] <robotgeek> :)
[07:19] <TheNightRider``> so any ideas?
[07:19] <robotgeek> TheNightRider``: it works fine in other OS?
[07:20] <TheNightRider``> well
[07:20] <TheNightRider``> windows couldnt detect it
[07:20] <TheNightRider``> so i tried here
[07:20] <Somefilename> TheNightRider``, Can you repeat the question again please - I was kind of away.
[07:20] <TheNightRider``> well
[07:20] <TheNightRider``> i got an mp3 player
[07:20] <TheNightRider``> a friend sold it to me
[07:20] <TheNightRider``> sorry for the enter again
[07:20] <TheNightRider``> uhh, so neither windows nor linux detects it
[07:20] <Somefilename> TheNightRider``, MP3 player? What does that have to do with Kubuntu or KDE?
[07:20] <robotgeek> TheNightRider``: it does say error, "ibm_acpi: ec object not found" which is the USB module, i think
[07:21] <TheNightRider``> yeah i thought so too
[07:21] <Somefilename> TheNightRider``, Ohh, now I think I get it - you can do transfer via USB to the player.
[07:21] <Somefilename> Right?
[07:21] <TheNightRider``> yeah
[07:22] <TheNightRider``> i cant transfer
[07:22] <Somefilename> TheNightRider``, No?
[07:22] <TheNightRider``> if i could i wouldnt be here
[07:22] <robotgeek> TheNightRider``: :)
[07:22] <TheNightRider``> it works fine at my friend's house tho o.0
[07:22] <Somefilename> TheNightRider``, Just mount it.
[07:22] <TheNightRider``> how?
[07:22] <TheNightRider``> i missed that part
[07:22] <Somefilename> TheNightRider``, mount /dev/sda(usualy sda) /mnt/sda
[07:23] <Somefilename> TheNightRider``, Mount it if Kubuntu didn't do it automatly.
[07:23] <robotgeek> Somefilename: however, i don't think that it's actually loading the USB device
[07:23] <TheNightRider``> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[07:23] <Somefilename> robotgeek, It worked for me - I tried 5 different deviceds.
[07:23] <TheNightRider``> hmm
[07:23] <TheNightRider``> what do you think i should enter?
[07:24] <Somefilename> TheNightRider``, Sorry, my bad - mount -t vfat [..] 
[07:24] <robotgeek> TheNightRider``: usually vfat, i tjink
[07:25] <TheNightRider``> mount: mount point media/sda does not exist
[07:25] <TheNightRider``> hmm
[07:25] <TheNightRider``> oops
[07:25] <TheNightRider``> wait
[07:25] <TheNightRider``> my bad
[07:25] <robotgeek> TheNightRider``: try pmount :)
[07:25] <dark_suic_ZZZ> TheNightRider``,create the folder :P
[07:26] <me2win> seems to me like robotgeek doesnt know what hes talking about...
[07:26] <me2win> :D kidding
[07:26] <me2win> robotgeek ftw
[07:26] <robotgeek> me2win: with pmount, it creates the mount point automgically, based on device name (etc etc)
[07:27] <me2win> oic
[07:27] <TheNightRider``> oh for fuck sake...
[07:27] <robotgeek> TheNightRider``: please mind you language
[07:27] <Somefilename> Back.
[07:27] <Somefilename> TheNightRider`` , Made it work yet?
[07:27] <me2win> lol, you can tell the people who are extremely new to the chans
[07:28] <TheNightRider``> well i cant make the folder o.0
[07:28] <TheNightRider``> wtf
[07:28] <dark_suic_ZZZ> TheNightRider``,try with sudo?
[07:28] <Somefilename> TheNightRider``, What do you mean you can't make the folder?
[07:28] <dark_suic_ZZZ> tried with sudo?
[07:28] <TheNightRider``> how can i make folders with konsole
[07:28] <Somefilename> TheNightRider``, sudo mkdir /mnt/mp3
[07:28] <TheNightRider``> oooh mkdir
[07:29] <Somefilename> TheNightRider``, Then mount /dev/sda /mnt/mp3
[07:29] <Somefilename> Use -t vfat if you are not using your MP3 player as a live Linux system - like I do. :)
[07:30] <TheNightRider``> omg
[07:30] <TheNightRider``> mount: special device /dev/sda does not exist
[07:30] <Somefilename> TheNightRider``, You can use ntfs, vfat, etc depending on what type of filesystem the drive supports.
[07:30] <Somefilename> TheNightRider``, What the fuck?! Check /dev
[07:30] <robotgeek> TheNightRider``: yes, that will work only if it has been detect
[07:30] <TheNightRider``> hahaha
[07:30] <kuba> welcome all
[07:30] <TheNightRider``> nice
[07:30] <robotgeek> Somefilename, please mind you language
[07:30] <Somefilename> robotgeek, Oh, sorry.
[07:31] <me2win> TheNightRider``: what sda number is it
[07:31] <me2win> sda1 sda2
[07:31] <Somefilename> TheNightRider``, Use sda1 or sda2.
[07:31] <robotgeek> TheNightRider``: ls -l /dev/sd*
[07:31] <kuba> "no rules to make `include/linux/autoconf.h', needed by `include/config/MARKER'. Stop." - does anyone know what the hell is that or better yet what to do with it?
[07:32] <Somefilename> kuba, What are you trying to compile?
[07:32] <robotgeek> kuba: what are you trying to do?
[07:32] <dark_suic_ZZZ> kuba, what are you trying to do?
[07:32] <kuba> Linksys WRT54G software
[07:32] <robotgeek> haha
[07:32] <TheNightRider``> ls: /dev/sd*: No such file or directory
[07:32] <TheNightRider``> ah.
[07:32] <Somefilename> kuba, sudo apt-get install autoconf
[07:32] <tristanmike> Cin: please turn off away messages
[07:32] <robotgeek> kuba: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[07:32] <kuba> erm, you're joking, that can't be it... but I'll try
[07:33] <dark_suic_ZZZ> well, it's possible, but it will be hard having that he has been able to do make :P
[07:33] <Somefilename> kuba, If you think I am joking than that' it.
[07:33] <dark_suic_ZZZ> it may be some libs though
[07:34] <TheNightRider``> Somefilename, any ideas?
[07:34] <kuba> well, nope, I have that installed.  And yes, I have [just compiled and installed make 3.81]  and so forth...
[07:34] <TheNightRider``> i guess nothing works with me, eh :/
[07:34] <dark_suic_ZZZ> TheNightRider``, have you tried mounting it with sudo?
[07:34] <Somefilename> TheNightRider``, Try sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/mp3
[07:34] <dark_suic_ZZZ> sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /media/sda?
[07:34] <TheNightRider``> i did with root
[07:35] <Somefilename> TheNightRider``, Use sda1.
[07:36] <TheNightRider``> nope
[07:36] <TheNightRider``> didnt work
[07:36] <TheNightRider``> again o.0
[07:36] <me2win> TheNightRider``: do sudo fdisk -l
[07:36] <me2win> see what volumes you have
[07:36] <Somefilename> kuba, Try this http://freshmeat.net/articles/view/889/
[07:36] <dark_suic_ZZZ> and well, if the problem is that the device is directly not detected?
[07:36] <dark_suic_ZZZ> we're hitting blank points if the device is not connected
[07:36] <dark_suic_ZZZ> detected*
[07:36] <Wizz_Kidd> whats a good looking and cheap CPU case
[07:37] <kuba> oh my, it's so short and all ;) Thanks, I'll go and try it then...
[07:37] <TheNightRider``> Somefilename, here -> http://pastebin.com/651768
[07:37] <Somefilename> kuba, Did it work by installing autoconf?
[07:38] <me2win> TheNightRider``: whats that the output of?
[07:38] <dark_suic_ZZZ> TheNightRider``, your device is not detected
[07:38] <dark_suic_ZZZ> what does lsusb show?
[07:38] <Somefilename> TheNightRider``, That's great - it means that sda is the mp3 player. :)
[07:38] <kuba> Somefilename: I have autoconf installed...
[07:39] <TheNightRider``> oh
[07:39] <Tonio_> hey
[07:39] <TheNightRider``> really?
[07:39] <TheNightRider``> heh, nice
[07:39] <TheNightRider``> soo what do i do now?
[07:39] <Somefilename> kuba, Try searching for the error message, maybe you will be directed to a forum where people had similar problems.
[07:40] <Somefilename> TheNightRider``, Maybe this will clear things out for you http://experts.about.com/q/Unix-Linux-OS-1064/mount-usb-pen-drive.htm
[07:40] <me2win> TheNightRider``: whats the output of lsusb
[07:41] <TheNightRider``> i dont know, im kinda noob here
[07:41] <TheNightRider``> :)
[07:41] <TheNightRider``> damn, i gotta go
[07:41] <TheNightRider``> talk to u guys later :)
[07:44] <Wizz_Kidd> hows does wine compare to cedega
[07:44] <Somefilename> Wizz_Kidd, I go for Wine because it's free.
[07:44] <me2win> cedega is a fork of wine
[07:45] <tristanmike> Wizz_Kidd: wine is free, cedega is not
[07:45] <Somefilename> Wizz_Kidd, But I think Cedega is more for games.
[07:45] <kuba> darn, I can't find a solution reading that page you gave me. I've found a few patches [they're very popular upon googling for autoconf +MARKER] ... Maybe that's a solution?
[07:45] <me2win> and that
[07:45] <tristanmike> Wizz_Kidd: wine is command line, cedega has a gui
[07:45] <Somefilename> kuba, Try.
[07:45] <Somefilename> tristanmike, Are you afraid of the command line?
[07:45] <lasindi[lappy] > Where is the actual trash directory stored in Kubuntu?
[07:46] <trappist> why is everything frickin written in python.
[07:46] <tristanmike> Somefilename: when it comes to games....yes!
[07:46] <Somefilename> lasindi[lappy] , Check the system directory.
[07:46] <Somefilename> tristanmike, You don't run games in command line - what's the problem in typing wine somefilename.exe -opengl?
[07:47] <tristanmike> Somefilename: I just want to click my dang game and play it, I don't mind the command line to compile, but no, I don't want to use it specifically
[07:47] <kuba> ya, just tell me how :) I've never mastered this patching business...
[07:47] <lasindi[lappy] > Somefilename: what do you mean by the "system directory?"
[07:47] <tristanmike> Somefilename: besides, he asked how they compare, and that is one way they compare
[07:47] <Kev1n> i am using dapper.. usb problems. lsusb freezes ... lspci is fine    ....    any ideas
[07:47] <kuba> Somefilename: actually I just need to know where to run the patch from...
[07:48] <robotgeek> trappist: hmm, why is that a problem :)
[07:48] <Somefilename> lasindi[lappy] , Search for a directory called "System" - I don't remember where it's located in Kubuntu, maybe the Desktop (that's /home/user/Desktop).
[07:48] <trappist> robotgeek: I dislike python.
[07:48] <Wizz_Kidd> have any of you ever used wine for games ?
[07:48] <tristanmike> I use Cedega
[07:48] <trappist> <-- ruby guy
[07:48] <Wizz_Kidd> i have it 2 im jus wonderign is wine will also do the trick
[07:48] <Wizz_Kidd> RUBY is great my fav
[07:48] <robotgeek> Kev1n: is this flight 6? or breezy ?
[07:48] <kuba> look at this: http://lkml.org/lkml/2005/9/6/173 will it do?
[07:49] <Somefilename> kuba, I'm reading it...
[07:49] <Wizz_Kidd> me = ruby + qt bindings/kde bindings or RubyGTK
[07:49] <Somefilename> kuba, Patching means recompiling the kernel...ready?
[07:49] <kuba> erm, nope
[07:49] <Wizz_Kidd> does QT make Native system calls on windows
[07:50] <lasindi[lappy] > Somefilename: I think I found it: ~/.local/share/Trash/files
[07:50] <robotgeek> kuba: why would you need to do that for user software?
[07:50] <Wizz_Kidd> never tried it
[07:50] <robotgeek> kuba: link to what you are trying to compile please?
[07:50] <Somefilename> lasindi[lappy] , Ok - but I forgot to tell you that it comes as a bar applet. :)
[07:51] <kuba> I don't know that's why I'm asking. Link in a sec...
[07:51] <Somefilename> kuba, Hmm, try to install linux-headers.
[07:51] <Somefilename> kuba, It might help - without recompiling the kernel.
[07:52] <kuba> Somefilename: got it
[07:52] <Somefilename> kuba, Hmmm...
[07:52] <kuba> I write in C/C++ so I've got what's needed to compile it... However I never seem to be able to actually MAKE something :)
[07:53] <Somefilename> kuba, Can you print the error message again please?
[07:53] <kuba> robotgeek: ftp://ftp.linksys.com/opensourcecode/wrt54g/4.20.9-SC/WRT54G_v4.20.9_SC.tgz
[07:53] <Somefilename> kuba, Oh, writing in C? Nice to mee you. :)
[07:54] <kuba> Somefilename: You too :)
[07:54] <me2win> c++ ftw
[07:54] <kuba> Somefilename: make[2] : *** Brak regu do zrobienia obiektu `include/linux/autoconf.h', wymaganego przez `include/config/MARKER'. Stop.
[07:54] <kuba> arm, sorry
[07:54] <Somefilename> kuba, As every educated Linux user, yes, I program in C too. :)
[07:54] <kuba> translating... :)
[07:54] <kuba> Somefilename: make[2] : *** no rules to make object `include/linux/autoconf.h', needed by `include/config/MARKER'. Stop.
[07:55] <robotgeek> kuba: how big is this again :)
[07:55] <kuba> robotgeek: ~180MB? :)
[07:56] <robotgeek> kuba: i'm not downloading 180 MB, sorry :)
[07:56] <kuba> robotgeek: no problem, I never thought you will
[07:56] <robotgeek> kuba: i just wanted to read the README file :)
[07:56] <Somefilename> kuba, Well - I might find a solution for you.
[07:57] <Somefilename> kuba, Since you are a C programmer you can translate the patching file into shell code, right? :)
[07:57] <Somefilename> I mean, that's what I would to if I was you.
[07:58] <Somefilename> kuba, Also - the good and informing comments help a lot in such way you can you "translate" words in to shellcode.
[07:58] <kuba> Somefilename: well, I don't know really. I needed a patch at the begining of the compilation so I just read it and made the changes myself but that was a few lines of things I understood
[07:59] <Bambino> How do i reinstall konsole? and how to I update my Konversation?
[07:59] <kuba> this patch is, well, murky? :)
[07:59] <Somefilename> Bambino, If you are running Konversation 0.18 you can upgrade it from the official site not from the repository. For konsole to "sudo apt-get install konsole".
[07:59] <tristanmike> Bambino: the only way to "update" an application to the most recent version is to compile it. Ubuntu version freezes for each release
[08:00] <tristanmike> Bambino: you get security fixes, but not version upgrades
[08:00] <kuba> Somefilename: don't treat me as a linux user - I'm a newbie at linux. I just know some C :)
[08:00] <Zico|> Hello. Have anyone tried using Asus WL-167G usb dongle with kubuntu?
[08:00] <Somefilename> kuba, You mean you don't do C for Linux...? :(
[08:01] <Bambino> tristanmike: Oh ok. cause i cant move the bubble thing in Konversation. its stuck somehow
[08:01] <tristanmike> ...konversation bubble thing ? what do you mean ?
[08:01] <Somefilename> Bambino, I told you how to upgrade Konversation to the last version (0.19).
[08:01] <Bambino> Somefilename: Yes thanks
[08:01] <kuba> Somefilename: actually, I write under linux but not really for linux - mostly for pleasure and school ;] 
[08:02] <kuba> I'm learning linux by the way but it's very disencouraging this make-ing - it never freakin' works :)
[08:02] <Somefilename> kuba, And like I still see myself begging the computer class teacher to teach me C for Windows(I only know C#, Java, etc for Windows, but no C or C++).
[08:02] <Somefilename> Either the teacher doesn't want to learn me or she doesn't know it...
[08:03] <tristanmike> "doesn't want to *teach* me"  ... not "learn me"
[08:03] <kuba> Take a book and teach yourself then :)
[08:03] <Somefilename> tristanmike, Sorry for the typos - but I really don't know how it bothers you.
[08:04] <Somefilename> :|
[08:04] <tristanmike> Somefilename: the usage of "teach" and "learn" is a big pet peave of mine :P
[08:04] <Bambino> Somefilename: Can i uninstall Konsole?
[08:04] <trappist> tristanmike: peeve
[08:04] <tristanmike> d'on!
[08:04] <trappist> :)
[08:04] <tristanmike> d'oh
[08:04] <tristanmike> damn you trappist !
[08:04] <trappist> that'll learn ya
[08:05] <tristanmike> LOL
[08:05] <Somefilename> Bambino, sudo apt-get remove konsole - but I don't know if konsole will go down alone.
[08:05] <Bambino> Somefilename: The thing is, i updated KDE frmo 3.4 to 3.5 and then i lost files, so i cant configure Konsole anymore
[08:05] <kuba> robotgeek: you still here?
[08:06] <Somefilename> Bambino, What do you mean you can't configure konsole?
[08:06] <trappist> Bambino: that bug exists only in the breezy 3.5 packages.  it works in dapper.
[08:06] <trappist> Bambino: if you know somebody running dapper you can get the missing .la file from them
[08:07] <kuba> this is the readme:
[08:07] <Bambino> trappist: Yes, I got the 2 files that is missing. Except now its asking me for a libpng.so.3
[08:07] <kuba> To build the router:
[08:07] <Bambino> Somefilename: It misses files when i try to konfigure KOnsole
[08:07] <kuba>  o Follow the instructions in the tools/ directory to install the toolchain
[08:07] <kuba>  o Ensure the tools in the release/tools directory are in your path
[08:07] <kuba>  o cd release/src
[08:07] <kuba>  o type 'make'
[08:07] <kuba> hope I won't get kicked
[08:08] <Bambino> trappist: Any idea why it keeps telling me that it needs files?
[08:08] <Somefilename> Bambino, Change to the Dapper repository and emerge the new Konsole.
[08:09] <trappist> Bambino: there should only have been one missing file.  I assume you made some replacement or upgrade that has a libpng dependency that you don't meet.  if you only replace the kcmkonsole.la (I think that's the file) you should be fine.
[08:09] <trappist> Bambino: or, you could upgrade to dapper
[08:09] <trappist> Somefilename: emerge?
[08:09] <Somefilename> trappist, Emerge using APT or Adept, yes.
[08:09] <Bambino> Ok thanks guys
[08:09] <trappist> Somefilename: apt doesn't emerge - gentoo does that
[08:09] <kuba> Somefilename: so what would you recommend?
[08:10] <Somefilename> trappist, Then I must have got some words on my "Linux life". :)
[08:10] <Somefilename> kuba, I'm searching some more, and I think recompiling the kernel with the patch is the only option.
[08:11] <kuba> Somefilename: but..... I like my kernel... It's so, well, working? :)
[08:12] <kuba> and if I try to recompile I'll need to reinstall
[08:12] <Somefilename> kuba, You don't use a different kernel - it's the same one - plus you will discover that you can tweak it for better use.
[08:12] <Somefilename> kuba, No - recompiling the kernel is recompiling the kernel.
[08:13] <kuba> Somefilename: I meant: if I try to recompile the kernel I'll end up reinstalling...
[08:13] <Somefilename> kuba, Probably - but you can chroot and APT a new kernel or the same kernel.
[08:14] <Bambino> another queston for you guys. When I open konquerer, it opens 2 extra tabs in knqueror (really annoying when i wanna close it and it keeps asking me if i wanna close all tabs, and i dont want to turn of the alert when it alerts for tabs)... Any ideas?
[08:14] <Somefilename> Bambino, Are you thinking at a reinstall?
[08:15] <kuba> Somefilename: but why is this not working? what's wrong?
[08:15] <Somefilename> kuba, The patch...
[08:15] <Bambino> Somefilename: I dont know, maybe its a setting? Cause i had errors in KDE3.5 so iuninstalled it and installed kubuntu. and now konqueror opens 2 tabs extra always
[08:15] <Somefilename> Bambino, Does that make you feel uncomfy?
[08:16] <buz> am i the only ones having issues with printing as of today?
[08:16] <Bambino> Somefilename: Its just annoying when i wanna open konqueror fast and close it. cause then the alert asks me "do you wanan close all tabs"  :;)
[08:16] <Somefilename> kuba, Check your kernel version - get the patch for the kernel - install the kernel source packages(if not installed) and recompile.
[08:16] <buz> there was a cups update today in dapper, right?
[08:16] <Somefilename> buz, I never had problems with printing - don't know about someonme else.
[08:17] <buz> Somefilename: on breezy or dapper?
[08:17] <Somefilename> buz, Slackare.
[08:17] <Somefilename> Slackware*
[08:17] <Somefilename> Bambino, Close one tab only.
[08:17] <buz> well thats not really representative here i guess
[08:17] <tmdx120> hello all.
[08:17] <kuba> Somefilename: how do I check it? I know it shows upon boot but surely there's a way to just check it
[08:18] <Somefilename> buz, No - but the "K" infront of "ubuntu" is pretty representative for me.
[08:18] <tmdx120> hey beefsprocket, hey noteventime
[08:18] <tilix> buz: i`ve read something on planet.kde.org about kprint breaking with the new cups
[08:18] <noteventime> 'ello tdmx120
[08:18] <buz> tilix: yes they fixed that last week
[08:18] <buz> now nothing at all works as of today
[08:18] <Somefilename> kuba, "uname -s".
[08:18] <Bambino> Somefilename: As i am new to linux, i am not sure how to install konversation. I downloaded it and untared it. I am in the folder. now what?
[08:19] <buz> thank god i got a PS2 capable printer, so i can just do cat > usblp0 lol
[08:19] <noteventime> Bambino, Its installed by default :)
[08:19] <Somefilename> Bambino, Get the Debian binaries instead.
[08:19] <Bambino> Somefilename: Oh ok
[08:19] <Somefilename> noteventime, He wants the 0.19 version.
[08:19] <noteventime> ohh
[08:19] <Bambino> :)
[08:19] <noteventime> Sorry didn't read all of it :)
[08:19] <kuba> Somefilename: It says "Linux"
[08:19] <Somefilename> kuba, Use "uname -a". :)
[08:20] <noteventime> I have 0.19, and it was installed by default :S Must be dapper
[08:20] <kuba> Somefilename: 2.6.12-10-386?
[08:20] <Somefilename> noteventime, Dapper, I guess..
[08:20] <Somefilename> kuba, Yeah - that means that the kernel is 2.6.12 for the i386 platform.
[08:21] <kuba> and that means that...?
[08:21] <Somefilename> kuba, That you need to chose the patch for kernel 2.6.12.
[08:21] <Bambino> Somefilename: I cant really say i can see where to download the 0.19 for debian. and I am using breezy ;)
[08:21] <kuba> Somefilename: what's the chance of fuc*ing up my system if I choose to patch? :)
[08:22] <Somefilename> kuba, None - I told you, you can use chroot to recover your kernel.
[08:22] <Somefilename> kuba, Read kernel recompiling and patch adding howto.
[08:22] <kuba> Somefilename: oh, where's that? On that [k] ubunt howto site?
[08:22] <Somefilename> kuba, Usualy goes like a normal compilation but you need to configure it.
[08:23] <Somefilename> kuba, I don't know - I'm not interestedin Kubuntu anymore - check Google.
[08:23] <Somefilename> interested*
[08:24] <Somefilename> Bambino, Konversation didn't came in Slackware 10.2 - nor on Slackware-current "repository", maybe it is under testings or so.
[08:24] <Bambino> Somefilename: I am using ubuntu
[08:25] <Somefilename> Bambino, XChat is more recomended in Ubuntu.
[08:25] <Bambino> Somefilename: Oh?
[08:27] <bipolar>  I installed network-manager-kde but it says that network-manager is not running. the package network-manager is installed, but I don't know what else I need to do.
[08:28] <Somefilename> bipolar, Maybe network-manager is not really running.
[08:28] <bipolar> Somefilename: thats what I thought, but it's started with dbus, right?
[08:28] <Somefilename> bipolar, dcop
[08:29] <bipolar> doh....
[08:29] <frost_> hey, um TheNightRider sent me.. i was wondering about the auto-mount script for an ntfs partition..
[08:29] <kuba> Somefilename: so what you're running?
[08:29] <Somefilename> frost_, There's not automount script - it's /etc/fstab configuration fiel.
[08:29] <Somefilename> kuba, Slackware.
[08:30] <bipolar> Somefilename: does that mean it should be in the kde componants section of system settings?
[08:30] <Somefilename> bipolar, Make a script to run network-manager once the computer has started.
[08:30] <kuba> I'll always wanted to try Slackware out but never actually did it
[08:31] <Somefilename> kuba, It's best!
[08:31] <Somefilename> the*
[08:31] <robotgeek> kuba: back
[08:31] <Somefilename> True distributions: Slackware and Debian(but PURE Debian not debian-based).
[08:32] <bipolar> Somefilename: isn't there a script for it already?
[08:32] <Somefilename> Debian was pretty big(I could get the first CD only) but I found the Slackware ISOs on my network and I tought of not losing time.
[08:32] <robotgeek> bipolar: chekc the wiki on howto start network manager, etal
[08:33] <Somefilename> bipolar, If it didn't come with the system then why should it be?
[08:33] <bipolar> robotgeek: the kubuntu wiki?
[08:33] <robotgeek> bipolar: yeah, ubuntu wiki is the same as the kubuntu wiki :)
[08:33] <bipolar> Somefilename: if the program needs one shouldn't there be one in the package?
[08:33] <kuba> Somefilename: I can't recompile at the moment - too much to go wrong, to little time to repair. Maybe there's a LiveCD with a newer [patched?]  Kernel that I could use just to build this once?
[08:33] <bipolar> robotgeek: thanks... I'll take a look
[08:33] <Mez> bipolar: it's the same wiki - it just uses a different skin
[08:33] <Somefilename> bipolar, Don't ask me - I didn't make the compilation.
[08:33] <kuba> Somefilename: I mean ANY linux, not (k)ubuntu
[08:34] <Somefilename> kuba, You can just emerge a new kernel.
[08:34] <juliomam> I would like to know how to use /dev/disk in KUbuntu. I saw a Debian system with that node, but my KUbuntu hasn't it.
[08:34] <Somefilename> kuba, Check the Dapper kernel repository.
[08:35] <robotgeek> kuba: what are the requirements for compiling that? (kernel wise)
[08:35] <Somefilename> juliomam, What do you mean by "use /dev/disk"?
[08:35] <kuba> oh, I can 'upgrade' kernel from the Dapper repository?
[08:35] <Somefilename> kuba, Ofcourse you do.
[08:36] <juliomam> That node show ALL "hard disks" (usb, firewire, scsi, etc)
[08:36] <robotgeek> later
[08:36] <kuba> robotgeek: I don't seem to grasp what you're asking about... [sorry, I'm not native English] 
[08:36] <DaSkreech> kuba: This is revolt?
[08:36] <robotgeek> kuba: soryr, i gotta run. later
[08:36] <Somefilename> juliomam, Use "dmsg".
[08:36] <Bambino> I donwloaded the 0.19 konversation and I wanna install it, could not find anything for debian but i found the source code. I wanan compile it. How do I do that?
[08:36] <Somefilename> dmesg*
[08:37] <Somefilename> juliomam, Sorry, I mean "dmesg".
[08:37] <Somefilename> Bambino, Cd to the directory and type "./configure".
[08:37] <kuba> DaSkreech: ? My english is either getting bad or I'm too tired
[08:37] <juliomam> Ok... if I plug a sub stick, the partitions will be organized inside /dev/disk
[08:38] <DaSkreech> kuba: What were you talking about?
[08:38] <DaSkreech> kuba: I heard that Kubuntu was throwing a small revolt
[08:38] <DaSkreech> kuba: Sorry about the bad english
[08:38] <kuba> how's that?
[08:38] <Somefilename> DaSkreech, Revolt?
[08:39] <Bambino> Somefilename: thanks
[08:39] <kuba> DaSkreech: My english seems to be worse
[08:39] <Somefilename> Bambino, Done that yet? No errors?
[08:39] <Bambino> Somefilename: its taking ages, its still compiling, idid not do it in sudo tho
[08:39] <DaSkreech> Somefilename: Yes
[08:40] <Somefilename> Bambino, You don't need "sudo" at "./confgiure", this is just the first step of compilation. :)
[08:40] <Somefilename> DaSkreech, What's "revolt"?
[08:40] <Somefilename> Bambino, Alert me when it's over.
[08:40] <Bambino> Somefilename: Now. it says i miss QTR
[08:40] <Bambino> QT*
[08:40] <DaSkreech> Somefilename: Some Kubuntu developers were going to drop support for Kubuntu if Canonical didn't pay attention to them
[08:40] <Somefilename> Bambino, You probably don't have the uptodate version of QT.
[08:41] <Somefilename> DaSkreech, What is "revolt" anyways?
[08:41] <Bambino> Somefilename: so i need to update QT and do ./configure again?
[08:41] <Somefilename> Yes, Bambino, upgrade QT.
[08:41] <Somefilename> Bambino, sudo apt-get upgrade
[08:42] <Bambino> Somefilename: says I have the latest
[08:42] <DaSkreech> Somefilename: http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=revolt
[08:42] <Bambino> Somefilename: hecking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.2 and < 4.0) (library qt-mt) not found. Please check your installation!
[08:42] <Somefilename> DaSkreech, Oh, sorry - I tought it was some kind of package. :)
[08:43] <DaSkreech> No I heard that Kubuntu was breaking up
[08:43] <Somefilename> Bambino, sudo apt-get install qt-mt
[08:43] <Somefilename> DaSkreech, Really? Cool!
[08:44] <DaSkreech> Somefilename: For who?
[08:44] <Bambino> Somefilename: No such file ;)
[08:45] <Somefilename> DaSkreech, The Kubuntu developers are the same as the Ubuntu developers(maybe others but they certanly do the same thing) because Kubuntu is just Ubuntu with KDE - no big deal - even I can do that.
[08:45] <Somefilename> Bambino, sudo aptitude install qt-mt
[08:46] <DaSkreech> not sure how true that is
[08:46] <Bambino> Somefilename: Nopsi, none works
[08:46] <Somefilename> Bambino, Then you should stop thinking at Konversation and run XChat.
[08:46] <Bambino> Somefilename: Lol ;)
[08:46] <kuba> Somefilename: I got the dapper repositories - what was next? Emerge..? [sounds like gentoo] 
[08:47] <Somefilename> kuba, sudo apt-get updatew
[08:47] <Somefilename> kuba, sudo apt-get update
[08:47] <kuba> Somefilename: you want me to update the whole system from Dapper? won't that break anything?
[08:48] <Somefilename> kuba, No - update will download the keys and packages lists silly. :)
[08:48] <Somefilename> kuba, Do update.
[08:49] <kuba> oh, sorry, I'm stupid
[08:49] <kuba> yeah, It's updated
[08:49] <kuba> linux-image-xxxx?
[08:49] <Somefilename> kuba, Try upgrade now and see if it has the linux-image for i386.
[08:49] <kuba> yeah it does
[08:50] <DaSkreech> I have a question about that
[08:50] <Somefilename> kuba, Then do "sudo apt-get install linux-image-386" or what other name is - copy and paste it from the upgrade list.
[08:50] <DaSkreech> If I install a k7 Image
[08:50] <DaSkreech> will it do auto upgrades on that?
[08:50] <farous> help
[08:50] <Somefilename> DaSkreech, It check for upgrades of files on your systems.
[08:51] <Somefilename> DaSkreech, Probably yes.
[08:51] <DaSkreech> Sooo it would upgrade both kernels then?
[08:51] <Somefilename> DaSkreech, Yep.
[08:51] <DaSkreech> 386 and k7
[08:51] <DaSkreech> ah
[08:51] <Somefilename> DaSkreech, There's not problem in that and I don't see why it shouldn't.
[08:51] <DaSkreech> so i'd have to remove the 386 kernel to avoid it doing stupid things :-(
[08:51] <DaSkreech> Slow net?
[08:52] <DaSkreech> Can I freeze a package so that it doesn't upgrade?
[08:52] <kuba> Somefilename: linux-image-386 I have [2.6.12.16.1]  - However I see on this list a thing named: linux-image-2.6.15-20-386
[08:52] <Somefilename> DaSkreech, I run 3 kernels. :)
[08:52] <Somefilename> kuba, "sudo apt-get install linux-image-2.6.15-20-386".
[08:52] <kuba> sorry for all the questions - I just dont want to scre something up ;)
[08:52] <DaSkreech> Somefilename: so you wouldn't mind downloading 5 every few days?
[08:53] <Somefilename> DaSkreech, I compare them - I have an 2.6 mini - 2.6 i386 - 2.6 i686.
[08:53] <vge> DaSkreech: you can have multiple kernels and at boot choose what it "initialize"
[08:53] <vge> *to
[08:53] <Somefilename> I want to get the mach_kernel - but that would turn my system into Darwin. :)
[08:53] <DaSkreech> Somefilename: So You wouldn't mind downloading a K7 kernel ..even if you aren't going to use it?
[08:53] <Wizz_Kidd> why is my cups not working here on Kubuntu
[08:54] <DaSkreech> vge: I know My point is why download somethign you are never going to use?
[08:54] <Somefilename> DaSkreech, No - there's not problem having multiple kernels.
[08:54] <Wizz_Kidd> i am using Dapper
[08:54] <Wizz_Kidd> is thier something wrong with cups in this version
[08:54] <vge> DaSkreech: for testing purposes as he sayd?
[08:54] <kuba> Somefilename: in progress... I hope I won't crash anything ;)
[08:54] <DaSkreech> I don't have a problem with Multiple kernels :) Just with multiple kernels I'm never going to use
[08:54] <DaSkreech> I have an XGL and non XGL kernel setup now
[08:55] <Somefilename> Wizz_Kidd, Check for patches.
[08:55] <DaSkreech> As well as Xen kernel now that I think about it
[08:55] <fairyhalo2girl> hey anyone that has xbox live
[08:55] <Wizz_Kidd> Halo 2 :P
[08:55] <Somefilename> fairlyhalo2girl, No - we are not game enthusiasts.
[08:55] <Wizz_Kidd> buuuut what do you mean check for patches
[08:55] <vge> no, xbox dont have native linux support sry
[08:55] <Vixiado> what is the default root's password?
[08:56] <fairyhalo2girl> and wants to have some fun ;) add pissweed to your xbox live and start talking dirty. I'm a halo 2 chick. I love a man that likes to play dirty.;) so add me.
[08:56] <Somefilename> Vixiado, There's not root password.
[08:56] <vge> Vixiado: first added user password is the sudo password
[08:56] <Somefilename> Vixiado, Use sudo and your own user password - it's the Debian way.
[08:56] <Vixiado> ah ok
[08:56] <Vixiado> thanks...
[08:56] <Somefilename> Vixiado, If you want to se the password use "sudo passwd".
[08:58] <toxic_> Is there a program/daemon out there that can listen to a log file and print it's output if it matches a certain string ?
[08:58] <kuba> Somefilename: Installing
[08:58] <Somefilename> fairyhalo2girl, Do you really run Linux on your Xbox?
[08:58] <kuba> Do I need to reboot afterwards or something?
[08:59] <Somefilename> kuba, It's recomended.
[08:59] <Somefilename> Welcome back Bambino.
[08:59] <Bambino> Somefilename: Thanks
[08:59] <kuba> Somefilename: OK, brb then. I hope :)
[08:59] <Somefilename> toxi_, Yeah - it's called a robot and you have to program it yourself.
[08:59] <Somefilename> toxic*
[09:00] <toxic_> Somefilename, doh :P
[09:00] <Bambino> Somefilename, took ur advice, using xchat
[09:00] <Bambino> Somefilename, I guess I need to actually learn to use it
[09:00] <Somefilename> Bambino, Great, great.
[09:00] <Somefilename> Bambino, It's not different - it's actually more advanced - and you don't need to resize the user list window. :)
[09:01] <Somefilename> toxic_, See if eggdrop has those features
[09:01] <Bambino> Somefilename, Cool
[09:01] <toxic_> Somefilename, ok I'll look into it
[09:02] <Somefilename> toxic_, If not, you can program it - it's easy - get the string, check the string, print to socket.
[09:03] <Somefilename> To the TCP socket, I mean.
[09:04] <toxic_> Somefilename, I only see the IRC-bot eggdrop, is that what you meant ?
[09:04] <Somefilename> toxic_, I'm talking about programming an IRC bot yourself if eggdrop doesn't satisfy your needs.
[09:04] <toxic_> Somefilename, yeah I could program it .. Bash wouldn't be nice to do it in , and I don't have time for c atm :P
[09:04] <toxic_> Somefilename, I'm not looking for an ircbot though ..
[09:05] <toxic_> Somefilename, I want to look at /var/log/auth.log and have a program notify of any events which mathes a certain IP
[09:05] <Somefilename> toxic_, You have a lot of options, and fast programming languages such as Perl.
[09:05] <Somefilename> toxic_, You can make a Perl IRC bot in a couple of lines.
[09:05] <toxic_> Somefilename, yeah ..Not looking for irc bot :P
[09:05] <Somefilename> toxic_, In that case you run cron.
[09:06] <Somefilename> toxic_, Google crond if you want more info - I ain't going to talk you about it. :)
[09:06] <toxic_> Somefilename, have cron schedule a script for me or ho do you mean ?
[09:06] <toxic_> Somefilename, aight
[09:06] <Somefilename> toxic_, Yeah, make a cron script - always works for system administrators like you. ;)
[09:07] <Somefilename> Brb.
[09:07] <slow-motion> re
[09:07] <toxic_> Somefilename, ok thx for the tip
[09:09] <waspy|class> how do i set the default program to use when downloading from firefox?
[09:12] <Nickname> damnit
[09:13] <Nickname> Am I named Nickanme?
[09:14] <jean> after installing kubuntu (from ubuntu) my screen resolution has changed and i cannot set it becaus the buttons are off the screen, any ideas?
[09:14] <Somefilename> Back.
[09:15] <Somefilename> jean, /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:15] <kuba> Somefilename: kubuntu died
[09:15] <Somefilename> Welcome back kuba!
[09:15] <kuba> yeah, hi  from windows ;)
[09:15] <waspy|class> how do i set the default program to use when downloading from firefox?
[09:15] <Somefilename> kuba, Oh damn, did you configure the bootloader?
[09:16] <kuba> Somefilename: meaning? I just updated adn rebooted and now I have the new kernel upon boot but when I choose it I get a crash
[09:16] <kuba> and when I choose the previouis one I get seg faults
[09:17] <frank23> waspy|class: open with... ->other->chose the program  (in /usr/bin)
[09:17] <Somefilename> kuba, What are you running LILO or Grub?
[09:17] <kuba> grub
[09:17] <Somefilename> kuba, Can you drop into a console?
[09:17] <waspy|class> frank23, is it posibe to set them up before i need to to it manualy?
[09:17] <kuba> busybox yes, recovery probbaly also
[09:18] <Somefilename> kuba, Enter that.
[09:18] <DjDarkman> hy ,is this normal?
[09:18] <DjDarkman> root      7496  5.7  8.5  92164 22060 ?        SL   13:25  30:26 /usr/X11R6/bin/X -nolisten tcp :0 vt7 -auth /var/run/xauth/
[09:18] <frank23> jean: you can't scroll to see the buttons?  anyways the console way is   xrandr  to get a list of possible resolutions and  xrandr -s ##  to switch to one
[09:18] <kuba> Somefilename and what next?
[09:19] <kuba> I don't have IRC there I think...
[09:19] <kuba> do I?
[09:19] <Somefilename> kuba, Configure grub to boot into the new kernel.
[09:19] <kuba> :)
[09:19] <frank23> waspy|class: you have to set it up manually I think. but firefox will remember for next time
[09:19] <kuba> Somefilename: how? :(
[09:19] <waspy|class> frank23, thanks
[09:19] <Somefilename> kuba, Google it - I don't know - I use LILO.
[09:19] <kuba> Somefilename imagine what would have happened if I tried to recompile :)
[09:20] <Somefilename> kuba, Try this "/sbin/grub-install /dev/hda".
[09:20] <jean> hrm, my settings say im using 640*480 and only gives the option for 320*240
[09:21] <Somefilename> jean, Compile the needed drives to run 640x480 or higher.
[09:21] <Somefilename> drivers*
[09:21] <frank23> jean: you don't have anything higher than 640x480?
[09:21] <jean> ok, no..ut i did when i was using ubuntu(gnome)
[09:22] <frank23> !fixres
[09:22] <ubotu> Please read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:22] <kuba> Somefilename: It isn't on hda I think... How can I check that? And why do I need to reinstall grub? I booted to windows OK...
[09:22] <Somefilename> kuba, "cfdisk".
[09:23] <Somefilename> And tell me what you see as a Linux partition - usualy ext3
[09:23] <Somefilename> kuba, Also check /etc/grub.conf
[09:24] <frank23> kuba: the grub menu list is in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:24] <kuba> Somefilename: OK, I'll do that in a sec. But why do I need to do anything? apt did something with grub on the end...
[09:24] <waspy|class> Somefilename: could the grup menu be rebuilt for kuba?
[09:24] <Somefilename> kuba, It did?! Why didn't you told me?
[09:25] <kuba> Somefilename: I thought twas supposed to
[09:25] <frank23> kuba: what happened? new kernel not working?
[09:25] <Somefilename> waspy|class, Ofcourse, but I'm not verry familiar with GRUB and I don't relly know where the menulist conf file is.
[09:25] <kuba> frank23: ya
[09:26] <Somefilename> kuba, "sudo apt-get install linux-kernel-I don't know-i386/sid".
[09:26] <frank23> kuba: and ubuntu is the only linux distribution you have installed?
[09:26] <kuba> frank23: yeah
[09:27] <kuba> Somefilename: what's /sid?
[09:27] <Somefilename> kuba, Downgrade.
[09:27] <frank23> kuba: was it just a minor update ( asecurity fix) why did you change kernel?
[09:27] <kuba> OK, so I just downgrade and don't touch grub?
[09:27] <Somefilename> frank23, There was a need of a kernel patch - he didn't chosed to recompile the kernel.
[09:27] <kuba> exactly :)
[09:28] <Somefilename> kuba, Downgrading now?
[09:28] <kuba> well, if you say so - I have no idea what to do...
[09:28] <kuba> I need to reboot to do that
[09:28] <kuba> is there an irc client in busybox?
[09:29] <Somefilename> kuba, "sudo apt-get install linux-image-2.6.15-20-386/sid".
[09:29] <frank23> Somefilename: sid is not an ubuntu repo
[09:29] <Somefilename> kuba, There is bitchX.
[09:29] <Somefilename> franks23m What's "repo"?
[09:29] <frank23> Somefilename: repository
[09:29] <Somefilename> franks23, I run Slackware.
[09:30] <Somefilename> franks23, But I use a similar program in Slackware called slapt-get.
[09:30] <frank23> Somefilename: and slackware uses the debian repository names?
[09:30] <Somefilename> franks23, It works here - it worked back on Kubuntu.
[09:30] <Somefilename> franks23, Ofcourse it doesn't.
[09:30] <frank23> Somefilename: then where does sid come from?
[09:31] <Somefilename> franks23, It's downgrade.
[09:31] <Somefilename> franks23, Theoretically it should downgrade if you use the "flag".
[09:31] <frank23> Somefilename: sarge, sid, etch  are debian versions. sid is testing right now
[09:32] <Somefilename> franks23, Really?
[09:32] <frank23> Somefilename: slapt-get must be using debian repositories
[09:32] <Somefilename> frank23, That would be bullshit - and I told you it worked for me back on Kubuntu.
[09:32] <Somefilename> frank23, And since I know nothing about Debian Sid I couldn't use the repositories.
[09:33] <kuba> ok, Ill try the sid thing, brb
[09:34] <frank23> Somefilename: I don't see how that could possibly work for kubuntu unless you added debian repositories (sid) to your sources.list
[09:34] <Somefilename> frank23, Well - I haven't and it worked.
[09:35] <frank23> Somefilename: was this using dapper?
[09:35] <Somefilename> frank23, Breezy.
[09:36] <Somefilename> I gotta go now.
[09:36] <frank23> Somefilename: I'd like to see the /etc/sources.list   that made that possible
[09:36] <frank23> Somefilename: I'd like to see the /etc/apt/sources.list   that made that possible
[09:36] <Somefilename> frank23, Tell kuba to edit the GRUB menulist if that didn't worked, ok?
[09:36] <Somefilename> I'm off.
[09:37] <frank23> anyone else following this?
[09:37] <Parkotron> frank23: I'm watching it, but I can say that I have a clue of what's going on.
[09:39] <Parkotron> Does anyone know how to disable icon stacking in the KDE3.5.2 systray?
[09:39] <frank23> Parkotron: not sure. I like it better this way. takes less space
[09:40] <Parkotron> It's trying to put my icons into two rows, but there isn't enough room, so the bottom row is partly pushed off the bottom of my screen.
[09:40] <Parkotron> frank23: I agree that it's a good feature, but it's making bad decisions here.
[09:41] <frank23> Parkotron: yeah. it's fine with me but maybe it's making a dumb decision in your case
[09:42] <Parkotron> If I shrink or increase the panel size, it figures things out.
[09:43] <frank23> Parkotron: you would think it would be in configure system tray but it isn't :(
[09:44] <kuba> back
[09:44] <kuba> running on some old kernel
[09:44] <gourdin> hi there
[09:44] <kuba> very old...
[09:44] <gourdin> dapper drake is the "unstable" one ?
[09:44] <gourdin> (I'm from debian)
[09:45] <vge> not that unstable anymore, go for it i would say
[09:45] <gourdin> hmmm
[09:45] <kuba> donr go for it
[09:45] <gourdin> =)
[09:45] <gourdin> I'm using debian unstable, so =)
[09:45] <kuba> frank23: can you help me out here?
[09:45] <gourdin> I'm gonna read some docs ;)
[09:45] <frank23> gourdin: it's the development one. It depends but at times it's more like the experimental one
[09:46] <gourdin> frank23: experimental ?!
[09:46] <gourdin> frank23: ho
[09:46] <frank23> gourdin: debian has an exeprimental repository right?
[09:46] <Chousuke> yes.
[09:46] <gourdin> frank23: yes, but I'm only using unstable one (sid)
[09:47] <gourdin> experimental freaks me (do we says this in english?)
[09:47] <frank23> gourdin: isn't unstable etch right now?
[09:47] <Chousuke> frank23: no
[09:47] <gourdin> frank23: ?
[09:47] <gourdin> frank23: sid
[09:47] <Chousuke> frank23: etch is testing
[09:47] <gourdin> yep
[09:47] <Chousuke> But in Debian, Unstable means that packages change often
[09:47] <kuba> frank23: The new kernel has fu**ed up everything - can I somehow 'go back'?
[09:47] <gourdin> hmmm
[09:47] <Chousuke> Unstable doesn't mean that stuff crashes a lot and won't work :)
[09:47] <frank23> kuba: which kernel are you using right now?
[09:48] <kuba> 2.6.12.9
[09:48] <Chousuke> And using experimental is like picking your nose with a pitchfork. :)
[09:48] <frank23> kuba and 2.6.12-10 is the one that doesn't work?
[09:48] <kuba> yeah, and that new 2.6.15.20 too....
[09:49] <gourdin> hmmm
[09:49] <gourdin> I only got 650Mo CDs
[09:49] <gourdin> :/
[09:49] <frank23> kuba: where did you get 2.6.15-20 from?
[09:49] <kuba> Dapper repository
[09:49] <frank23> gourdin: those are useless for big images
[09:50] <frank23> kuba: and you're trying to run the dapper kernel in breezy?
[09:50] <gourdin> frank23: I know ;)
[09:50] <gourdin> frank23: I'm searching for small kubuntu isos
[09:50] <gourdin> frank23: do they exist ?
[09:50] <kuba> frank23: erm, it would seem so. Somefilename said it's OK to do that....
[09:50] <frank23> gourdin: I got a bunch of those too that I bought by mistake
[09:50] <kuba> and I have foolishly listened
[09:50] <frank23> kuba: maybe it works I don't know.
[09:51] <kuba> frank23: it doesn't
[09:51] <frank23> kuba: but unless you need a new feature, upgrading is useless
[09:51] <kuba> frank23: yea, I know, but I needed a thing. Nevertheless - I need a system more.
[09:51] <frank23> kuba: so 2.6.12-10 doesn't work either? it should
[09:52] <kuba> frank23: nope, upon boot it gives a lot of Segmentation faults and jumps to busybox
[09:52] <kuba> also when I try to boot in recovery mode
[09:53] <frank23> kuba: that's strange...    can you paste  /boot/grub/menu.lst  and  ls -l /boot  in pastebin?
[09:53] <kuba> frank23: yeah, gimme a sec
[09:54] <frank23> kuba: was breezy released with 2.6.12-9  I don't remember
[09:54] <kuba> yes
[09:54] <kuba> the one Im running now
[09:55] <frank23> kuba: do you have modules you compiled yourself or something like that?
[09:55] <kuba> frank23: nope
[09:56] <vge> where can i read more about modules?
[09:56] <frank23> kuba: vmware? weird hardware?
[09:56] <kuba> frank23: nope, totally normal
[09:56] <kuba> frank23: you want me to paste this menu.lst crucial part here?
[09:56] <frank23> vge: google I guess.   modules are basically drivers
[09:56] <frank23> kuba: paste it in the pastebin
[09:57] <kuba> frank23: ?
[09:57] <frank23>  http://kubuntu.pastebin.com
[09:57] <frank23> !paste
[09:57] <ubotu> Please don't flood the channel! For best results use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and tell people the URL
[09:57] <kuba> ok
[09:59] <kuba> frank23: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/652080
[10:01] <frank23> kuba: I don't know... I don't why 2.6.12-9 would work and 2.6.12-10 not work
[10:03] <kuba> frank23: I'll remove 2.6.15 and reinstal 2.6.12
[10:03] <kuba> could that work?
[10:04] <frank23> kuba: you can try but it probably won't change anything.  reinstalls rarely change anything unless you muck around manually in the system
[10:05] <kuba> frank23: OK, so if this won't work what options have I got? os reinstall?
[10:05] <frank23> kuba: not sure...  maybe try a dapper live cd and upgrade now if it works?  dapper is not released yet though...
[10:06] <kuba> frank23: upgrade?
[10:06] <kuba> frank23: is there a way to upgrade breezy to dappr?
[10:06] <frank23> kuba: I mean if the dapper live cd works, you could upgrade to dapper yeah.
[10:06] <frank23> !upgrade
[10:06] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade.  Upgrading to dapper (remember it may break). Please test the dist-upgrader -> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html.
[10:07] <kuba> frank23: maybe I could try to download the newest kernel sources and go with the recompile?
[10:07] <kuba> *compile
[10:08] <kuba> frank23: that link's dead
[10:08] <frank23> kuba: you can try. I don't know how easy/hard that is
[10:08] <frank23> kuba: follow the breezyupgrade guide and change breezy to dapper instead of hoary to breezy
[10:08] <kuba> frank23: if I get a liveCD and run it, will there be an upgrade option or something?
[10:08] <kuba> frank23: I see
[10:09] <frank23> kuba: I don't think so...
[10:09] <kuba> frank23: This page does not exist yet. You can create a new empty page, or use one of the page templates. Before creating the page, please check if a similar page already exists.
[10:09] <J_H_DK> how come if i do the shell apt-get update it says 3 packages held back but if i use adept it updates those 3 files no problem ?
[10:09] <kuba> frank23: I got it
[10:09] <frank23> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[10:10] <MasterWolf> dose anyone know were i can find the libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 package
[10:10] <frank23> J_H_DK: adept does dist-upgrade  which are not the same as apt-get install upgrade
[10:11] <J_H_DK> ahh okay, is it more unsafe with adept then sinse it takes packages thats held back in normal apt-get ?
[10:11] <frank23> kuba: upgrading is always risky. you have to backup your data and assume that you may have to reinstall completely
[10:12] <frank23> J_H_DK: not really...  as long as you check the preview changes tab and make sure the removed packages look resonable. make sure you don't remove half your system ;)
[10:13] <kuba> frank23: that's bad. What about other partitions [especially the windows one - it has a LOT of valuable things] 
[10:14] <J_H_DK> hehe ya, okay thanks for the info, was just wondering about it :)
[10:14] <frank23> kuba: oh the upgrade won't touch the windows partition at all
[10:15] <frank23> kuba: you should STILL do backups if you have something valuable though because hard drives can still crash at anytime
[10:15] <elknof1> hello
[10:16] <MasterWolf> I need so help, dose anyone know were i can find the libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 package
[10:16] <frank23> kuba: if you reinstall ubuntu make sure you install it on the first hard drive (in your case)
[10:16] <elknof1> sorry but does anybody knows how to disable the click in the touch pad??
[10:17] <frank23> !info libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2
[10:17] <kuba> frank23: how's that?
[10:17] <ubotu> libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2: (The GNU stdc++ library), section universe/libs, is optional. Version: 1:2.95.4-22 (breezy), Packaged size: 124 kB, Installed size: 372 kB
[10:17] <frank23> MasterWolf: enable the universe repository
[10:17] <frank23> !tell MasterWolf about sources
[10:18] <frank23> kuba: how's what?
[10:19] <kuba> frank23: that first hard drive thing....
[10:19] <vge> elknof1: sec
[10:19] <kuba> frank23: I'll just install it where it was
[10:19] <frank23> kuba: yeah that's what I meant. from your menu.lst I can see that your windows partition is on your 2nd hard drive
[10:20] <me2win> frank23: is there a way to get an external IP through command line?
[10:20] <vge> elknof1: you mean, tap to click or to disable touchpad alltogether?
[10:20] <elknof1> Masterwolf: open the package manager, then in adept click manage repositories, clrear the # at the begining of the repository universe/libs, save, and type it in the filter
[10:21] <elknof1> no just disable the tapping
[10:21] <vge> Option "maxtaptime" "0" add this to xorg.conf under touchpad
[10:21] <elknof1> where do I do that??
[10:22] <elknof1> i dont know how to use the terminal, is there a graphic way??
[10:22] <vge> open your konsole and type "sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[10:23] <elknof1> kate: ERROR: Communication problem with kate, it probably crashed.
[10:23] <elknof1> but its not
[10:23] <vge> then use vi or nano or something beside kate
[10:24] <elknof1> ok
[10:25] <frank23> elknof1: kdesu kate is what you should use instead of sudo kate
[10:25] <kuba> frank23: should I comment out the breeze repositories or can I just add the dapper ones + upgrade?
[10:26] <hume> hi... how do I do to run a script every time I start KDE?
[10:26] <vge> frank23: yes, my bad, dont use kate at all, just nano :/
[10:26] <Kyral> Vim...
[10:26] <frank23> kuba: change breezy to dapper.  but try a dapper live cd first. especially with the 2.6.15 kernel not booting
[10:27] <elknof1> thanks
[10:27] <vge> is xorg.conf case sensitive?
[10:27] <Kyral> yes
[10:27] <Kyral> Basically, in the Unix world
[10:27] <vge> i guess then the command "maxtaptime" aint
[10:27] <Kyral> assume case-sensitive unless told otherwise
[10:28] <kuba> frank23: what will a livecd change?
[10:28] <kuba> frank23: I'm using kubuntu not ubuntu btw - hope this doesn't change much?
[10:29] <frank23> kuba: the live cd lets you check if dapper will boot on your computer.
[10:30] <kuba> frank23: ok, I'll download it. How does in check?
[10:30] <J_H_DK> my machine could boot from livecd but refused to boot from the installcd of dapper, i had to install 5.10 and do a dist-upgrade from that to get dapper installed, but now it works :)
[10:31] <frank23> kuba: you burn the live cd and then boot from the live cd. (choose cdrom in the bios boot options
[10:32] <kuba> frank23: damn, there's no LiveCD for kUbuntu...
[10:33] <frank23> kuba: yes there is
[10:33] <kuba> frank23: where?
[10:33] <nalioth> kuba: there IS a liveCD for kubuntu
[10:33] <kuba> but Dapper?
[10:33] <DeluxXx__> hey how can i reinstall my grub bootloader with the kubuntu dvd ?
[10:33] <kuba> I know there's a LiveCD for Breezy. What about Dapper?
[10:33] <kuba> I can't see it on the kubuntu.org
[10:34] <frank23> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/dapper/flight-6/
[10:34] <frank23> !recover
[10:34] <ubotu> recover is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[10:34] <frank23> DeluxXx__: ^^
[10:34] <kuba> frank23: Oh, thanks.
[10:35] <J_H_DK> ya thanks, gonna put that link in my bookmark :)
[10:35] <frank23> I got to go. hope you figure something out
[10:36] <kuba> frank23: Thanks for all your help. I have to go now but I'll probably come back later/tomorrow.
[10:36] <kuba> cya then
[10:37] <Search4Lancer> stupid question: I just downloaded a theme, how the heck do I install it?
[10:38] <robotgeek> Search4Lancer, use alt + f2, type "kcontrol" in the text box, and hit the <enter> key
[10:38] <robotgeek> then go to theme manager, hopefully
[10:38] <Kev1n> i am using dapper.. usb problems. lsusb freezes ... lspci is fine    ....    any ideas
[10:39] <robotgeek> Kev1n: filed a bug?
[10:39] <Kev1n> no... want to know what output is required to file that bug
[10:40] <robotgeek> Kev1n: probably uname -a , and a "dmesg > dmesg.log"
[10:40] <robotgeek> Kev1n: also, they will ask you for more information if they need some
[10:41] <Search4Lancer> robotgeek: After installing a theme, am I free to trash the files I had downloaded for it?
[10:41] <robotgeek> Search4Lancer: i think so
[10:41] <Kev1n> robotgeek.. thanks ..will do that in next few mins
[10:42] <vicks> has anyone gotten katapult to work in dapper? mine hasn't worked for several weeks
[10:42] <Steil> Are there plans to package the betas of Kopete 0.12?
[10:44] <yuriy> does amarok 1.4 beta3 work for people?
[10:44] <yuriy> mine won't add anything to the collection
[10:44] <yuriy> as if every format is unsupported
[10:44] <robotgeek> yuriy: even oggs?
[10:44] <yuriy> yeah
[10:44] <yuriy> nothing.
[10:45] <Steil> yuriy: its working fine for me
[10:45] <yuriy> hmm
[10:45] <Steil> yuriy: are you using a real engine or the null engine?
[10:45] <J_H_DK> well im trying to rebuild my collection but it hangs abit, but that could be cause it is on a samba share
[10:45] <yuriy> i had 1.4 installed from SVN apr 7, and these packages are 1 day newer
[10:45] <yuriy> using gstreamer0.10
[10:46] <yuriy> the previous one worked fine.
[10:51] <DeluxXx__> sorry
[10:51] <DeluxXx__> frank23 what did you mean with recover ?
[10:51] <DeluxXx__> i dont wanna reinstall thats for sure
[10:58] <silver> Hi all!
[10:59] <silver> I'm Silver and i am noob at that chat
[10:59] <silver> is anybody her ?
[11:10] <S4L> I am having one mess of a time trying to install new screensavers.... (that being, I haven't the slightest goddamn idea what I'm doing)
[11:26] <mindspin> any thunderbird expert here?
[11:26] <DaSkreech> mindspin: try irc.mozilla.org
[11:26] <Dasnipa`> i dont know much about the bird of thunder... but i got the water of fire covered
[11:27] <apokryphos> mindspin: #ubuntu might be better for non-kde related questions, often.
[11:28] <mindspin> ok thanks
[11:29] <Wizz_Kidd> took them 12 years to make WINE damn shit
[11:30] <DaSkreech> Wizz_Kidd: You can do it faster?
[11:30] <Wizz_Kidd> no man i didnt say anything against i jus said damn
[11:30] <Wizz_Kidd> hard work :P
[11:31] <CellarDoor> Hello fellow kubuntu'ers
[11:31] <DaSkreech> Ah there was a period in between the last two words
[11:31] <DaSkreech> Ok
[11:33] <chx> recent Kubuntu dapper apt-get upgrade made a slight change in my peach theme and it's uuuuuugly , the menu part (File Edit...) is white-grey not peach. How could I fix this?
[11:39] <cromo> I asked this on unubtu+1, I thought I might asked here too:
[11:39] <DaSkreech> Kubuntu+1?
[11:39] <cromo> uhm
[11:39] <cromo> sorry, had no idea that channel exists
[11:40] <cromo> err it doesn't
[11:40] <cromo> dapper discussion in ubuntu+1, as the topic says
[11:40] <DaSkreech> It doesn't :)
[11:40] <DaSkreech> Sorry :)
[11:40] <DaSkreech> I was just pulling your leg
[11:40] <cromo> np.
[11:41] <cromo> ;)
[11:41] <cromo> anyway, are there any people using kubuntu dapper here?
[11:41] <vge> _o/
[11:41] <cromo> ok
[11:42] <kmon> cromo: me
[11:42] <cromo> are you vge printing with kprint?
[11:42] <vge> dont have printer sry
[11:42] <kmon> I don't have a printer :/
[11:42] <cromo> kmon: you?
[11:42] <buz> cromo: printing got broken today
[11:42] <cromo> uhm
[11:42] <buz> at least it doesnt work for me either
[11:42] <cromo> buz: it used to be broken here since some time
[11:42] <buz> no it got repaired last week for me
[11:42] <cromo> maybe it got fixed and got broken again today
[11:42] <buz> then got broken again today
[11:43] <buz> it's some cups issue
[11:43] <buz> somewhere on some kde site i read abou tit
[11:43] <cromo> anyway, lemme show you my issues, maybe you'll find it similar so I will at least stay cool that it's not driver's fault
[11:43] <Wizz_Kidd> Unable to retrieve the printer list. Error message received from manager:
[11:43] <Wizz_Kidd> Connection to CUPS server failed. Check that the CUPS server is correctly installed and running. Error: the IPP request failed for an unknown reason.
[11:43] <Wizz_Kidd> whata the prob
[11:43] <Wizz_Kidd> ?
[11:43] <buz> that is likely the OLD problem
[11:44] <cromo> Hi. I have issues here with cupsys. It doesn't work since a couple of months, I am not sure If it was me that broke something. I read a lot that the dapper cupsys libs&apps were broken, though I am not sure. Firstable, after pure (i.e. purged) install of cupsys I have to edit the /etc/cypsys/cupsd.conf and unhah the localhost:631, otherwise kControl won't be able to cope with CUPS. Socker connextion doesn't work at all
[11:44] <buz> that got fixed for me last week
[11:44] <cromo> this is the copy&paste
[11:44] <buz> this week i get connection to cups but i cant print
[11:44] <cromo> buz: did you try to upgrade a couple of hrs ago?
[11:44] <buz> thankfully i got a Postscript printer so i can just cat > lpt0 ;)
[11:44] <cromo> I noticed some cupsys update
[11:44] <buz> cromo: yes
[11:44] <cromo> this lead me to this problem again
[11:44] <Wizz_Kidd> Same here i have Dapper Linux and CUPS is not working
[11:45] <cromo> wanted to check id that's working
[11:45] <cromo> do you guys have the same problem with localhost and socket by any chance?
[11:46] <buz> cromo: no
[11:46] <buz> i can access cups in system settings
[11:46] <Wizz_Kidd> i need to get my cups working so I can print
[11:46] <buz> i just cant print to it
[11:46] <buz> print jobs somehow get lost
[11:46] <buz> they show up in kjobviewer but disappear after some time
[11:46] <cromo> buz: same here IF i edit cupsd.conf and unhash the localhost:631, that I set manually in kprint
[11:47] <buz> the socket issue was fixed last week (with a hack, but still it worked)
[11:47] <cromo> then I can see my printer, otherwise kprinter module in kcontrol won't connect to cupsys
[11:47] <Wizz_Kidd> i can even get it to access cups in printer settings ????????
[11:47] <vge> hmm, do i need firewall in IE vmware install that connect to internet bridged? :)
[11:48] <buz> i can see my printer without cups conf hacking
[11:48] <buz> (only kpdf could never ever see it)
[11:48] <buz> but kpdf is really one of the weakest spots of kde
[11:50] <cromo> buz: can you please take a look at your /etc/cups/cupsd.conf and see if both the Listen localhost:631 and Listen /var/run/cups/cups.sock are hashed out?
[11:50] <buz> # Only listen for connections from the local machine.
[11:50] <buz> # Listen localhost:631
[11:50] <buz> # Listen /var/run/cups/cups.sock
[11:50] <cromo> damn
[11:51] <cromo> it won't work here unless I unhash listen localhost:631
[11:51] <cromo> guss this is a bug to be solved
[11:51] <buz> yes
[11:51] <buz> its a kprinter bug, really
[11:51] <buz> cromo: http://www.kdedevelopers.org/blog/418
[11:52] <toxic_> Is there a way I can get Eterm to launch with options ? (ie I want to run something like "Eterm --command tail -f /var/log/somelog"
[11:52] <cromo> but how come it works for you and it doesn't here?
[11:52] <buz> no idea
[11:52] <buz> when did you last dist-upgrade dapper
[11:52] <Dasnipa`> hooray for turboprint
[11:53] <buz> not bloody useful with a postscript printer, but never mind
[11:53] <cromo> couple of minutes ago
[11:53] <cromo> I always do dist-upgrade
[11:54] <buz> mhh that release works for me in system settings
[11:55] <buz> weird
[11:55] <buz> now printing works again
[11:55] <buz> at least from kate
[11:55] <buz> lets see what happens from kghostview
[11:55] <cromo> I tried with OO
[11:55] <cromo> didn't try anything else
[11:56] <buz> doesnt seem to work from kghostview
[11:56] <cromo> are you sure you cen see your the printer under kcontrol?
[11:56] <cromo> I also had the prolem with configuring print server directly from kcontrol
[11:56] <buz> cromo: 100% sure
[11:56] <cromo> it asked for the password but I never managed to get inside the config
[11:57] <buz> but I CAN'T see it from kpdf
[11:57] <cromo> weird
[11:57] <buz> kpdf is weird anyhow
[11:57] <cromo> this should all be fixed, or dapper should switch back to breezy's cupsys
[11:58] <buz> printing from kword also works
[11:58] <buz> then wtf wont kghostview work
[11:58] <cromo> i'll try kate
[11:58] <cromo> do you have oo? try with it
[11:58] <buz> just started it ;)
[11:59] <buz> cups:printer shows up
[11:59] <buz> lets see
[11:59] <Wizz_Kidd> dude my cups is still fucke up
[12:00] <Wizz_Kidd> this damn Dapper shit
[12:00] <cromo> buz: can you please post your cupsysd.conf somwhere? i.e. pastebin.com
[12:00] <buz> yeah printing from OO works as well
[12:00] <buz> cromo: sure
[12:00] <cromo> mayebe some other opts are different
[12:00] <buz> http://pastebin.com/652371
[12:00] <buz> never touched it by hand
[12:01] <cromo> also, can you check to which groups your user belongs?
[12:01] <Wizz_Kidd> Someone wanna assist me also with my printer prob :)
[12:01] <buz> uid=1000(buz) gid=1000(buz) groups=1000(buz),4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom),25(floppy),29(audio),30(dip),44(video),46(plugdev),106(lpadmin),110(scanner),111(admin)
[12:02] <buz> only real change i did from flight 6 is setting root pw
[12:02] <trappist> Wizz_Kidd: that language is no more welcome here than in #ubuntu
[12:02] <buz> and isnstaling a ton of software ;)
[12:02] <cromo> I have had a long way here, since debian sarge, debian sid, ubuntu breezy and dapper now
[12:02] <cromo> all using same install
[12:02] <Wizz_Kidd> trappist: again man you dont know me
[12:03] <trappist> Wizz_Kidd: irrelevant
[12:03] <Wizz_Kidd> No not really
[12:03] <buz> yes really
[12:03] <Wizz_Kidd> Nope