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| dholbach | hey guys | 08:30 |
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| dholbach | ummm - how do I find bug reports for the kernel team? | 08:30 |
| dholbach | if we want to make the HUGDAY on Thursday a special kernel hug day, we need to make sure that people can find those bugs | 08:31 |
| infinity | Anything files on linux-source-2.6.15? | 08:35 |
| infinity | filed, too. | 08:35 |
| infinity | And god know what other interesting criteria. | 08:35 |
| dholbach | it's a big chaotic | 08:35 |
| dholbach | but i found something to work with | 08:35 |
| dholbach | http://launchpad.net/people/kernel-bugs/+packagebugs | 08:35 |
| dholbach | some are still for the ubuntu-kernel-team | 08:35 |
| dholbach | a lot of stuff filed on Ubuntu, etc :/ | 08:35 |
| infinity | Wow, I'm brilliant. I just deleted something I was uploading. | 08:36 |
| dholbach | :-/ | 08:36 |
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| dholbach | I managed that too :-( | 08:36 |
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| infinity | Why do we need a team for kernel bugs, above and beyond the kernel team? | 08:37 |
| infinity | How.. Confusing. | 08:37 |
| dholbach | yeah, what I thought | 08:38 |
| dholbach | we need to be able to remove teams again | 08:38 |
| dholbach | or mark them inactive or something | 08:39 |
| dholbach | does http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/Draft look ok to the kernel team? | 09:03 |
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| ivoks | hi | 02:15 |
| ivoks | there is small problem with kernel and input devices :/ | 02:16 |
| mjg59 | ivoks: Mm? | 02:20 |
| ivoks | mjg59: #38989 | 02:21 |
| ivoks | mjg59: just reported (and noticed) | 02:21 |
| mjg59 | ivoks: Uhm. You mean the device ordering is unstable? | 02:22 |
| ivoks | yes | 02:22 |
| mjg59 | More likely to be a udev issue | 02:22 |
| ivoks | could be that too... | 02:22 |
| mjg59 | Why's it a problem? | 02:22 |
| ivoks | if you configure alps touchpad in X | 02:22 |
| ivoks | as /dev/input/event2 | 02:23 |
| ivoks | after reboot it doesn't work | 02:23 |
| mjg59 | Why not just use the multiplexor? | 02:23 |
| ivoks | huh? | 02:23 |
| mjg59 | Tell it to use /dev/psaux | 02:24 |
| mjg59 | That's what the default configuration is | 02:24 |
| ivoks | ok. will try that | 02:24 |
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| ivoks | nope | 02:26 |
| ivoks | (EE) Alps Touchpad no synaptics touchpad detected and no repeater device | 02:27 |
| infinity | No joy on /dev/input/mice either? | 02:27 |
| ivoks | infinity: IIRC no | 02:28 |
| ivoks | well, touchpad works | 02:28 |
| ivoks | but synaptic driver doesn't | 02:28 |
| ivoks | so, touchpad works via /dev/input/mice, but not with dynaptic driver | 02:28 |
| ivoks | it has to be /dev/input/eventX if I'm not mistaken | 02:29 |
| infinity | How painfully fragile... | 02:29 |
| mjg59 | Uhm., | 02:30 |
| mjg59 | I'm really not convinced by that. | 02:30 |
| mjg59 | My Alps pad is being read via /dev/psaux | 02:30 |
| mjg59 | (As far as I can tell) | 02:30 |
| ivoks | and ALPS features work? | 02:30 |
| ivoks | like, hor-ver scroll, middle button | 02:30 |
| ivoks | tap and drag | 02:31 |
| ivoks | cause, ALPS works without features as /dev/input/mice | 02:31 |
| ivoks | i'll be back... just to try something else | 02:31 |
| mjg59 | Well, the alps driver has bound to it | 02:32 |
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| ivoks | ok, no, /dev/input/mice doesn't work with synaptics driver :/ | 02:33 |
| ivoks | if it's an udev issue, that could be fixed with a simple rule, right? | 02:34 |
| ivoks | like apitek tablet it's fixed with /dev/input/aiptektablet | 02:37 |
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| zul | hey BenC | 05:25 |
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| BenC | zul: hey | 06:51 |
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| dilinger | fabbione: ping? | 10:09 |
| dilinger | is there an ubuntu x-related channel? | 10:10 |
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| dholbach | does http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/Draft look ok to the kernel team? | 10:13 |
| dholbach | since you guys wanted to get people involved in kernel bugs triage :) | 10:13 |
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| cjb | Hi. Is there a way to force SMP/UP with kernel arguments, with smp-alternatives? | 10:28 |
| fabbione | dilinger: no | 10:29 |
| dilinger | ok | 10:30 |
| fabbione | dilinger: it's just me, infinity and heno | 10:30 |
| fabbione | so we keep it on -devel for now | 10:30 |
| dilinger | i figured it out anyways | 10:30 |
| dilinger | @$#!$ /root/xorg.conf crap, instead of it using /etc/X11/xorg.conf | 10:30 |
| cjb | dilinger: Augh, I hate that. | 10:30 |
| fabbione | dilinger: eh? | 10:31 |
| dilinger | fabbione: i had an xorg.conf in /root | 10:31 |
| dilinger | and was trying to figure out why stuff was broken; i was modifying /etc/X11/xorg.conf trying to fix it w/out realizing it was loading /root/xorg.conf | 10:31 |
| dilinger | according to xorg.conf(5x), it loads $HOME/xorg.conf | 10:32 |
| dilinger | before /etc/X11/xorg.conf | 10:32 |
| dilinger | s/loads/searches/ | 10:32 |
| fabbione | oh | 10:32 |
| infinity | Yeah, that's a rather annoying misfeature when trying to debug WTF is going wrong with a user's setup. | 10:35 |
| dilinger | i really can't imagine that ever being useful | 10:38 |
| dilinger | i assume the intent was for non-root users | 10:38 |
| fabbione | well that assume you can run X as user... that is only partially possible becuase it needs to be suid oot | 10:39 |
| fabbione | root | 10:39 |
| dilinger | yep | 10:39 |
| dilinger | i recall being able to do it | 10:39 |
| dilinger | startx | 10:39 |
| fabbione | given that X access /dev/kmem to gather some system info :) | 10:39 |
| dilinger | as non-root | 10:39 |
| fabbione | yes | 10:39 |
| fabbione | but it's suid root | 10:39 |
| dilinger | hm | 10:40 |
| fabbione | if not startx -> X is | 10:40 |
| dilinger | are there any access checks there? | 10:40 |
| fabbione | something.. yes.. | 10:40 |
| fabbione | there is even a debconf question for it iirc | 10:40 |
| dilinger | it seems like a bad idea to have a setuid program that supports config files loading arbitrary modules from the (non-priv'd) users homedir | 10:40 |
| dilinger | ModulePath "path" | 10:41 |
| dilinger | sets the search path for loadable Xorg server modules. This | 10:41 |
| fabbione | there are probable some limitations on what you can load as user | 10:42 |
| fabbione | but you can try | 10:42 |
| dilinger | so what's to stop me from taking the radeon driver, adding a little bit of code that spawns a socket on port 10101 that launches a (root) shell when connected to, compiling it against hoary's xorg, making an xorg.conf that specifies a ModulePath of my custom radeon driver, and doing a startx? | 10:42 |
| fabbione | that perhaps the ModulePath is not parsed for users? | 10:44 |
| fabbione | -> bed | 10:44 |
| fabbione | good night | 10:44 |
| dilinger | 'night | 10:45 |
| dholbach | night fabbione | 10:46 |
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| dilinger | RGH | 11:28 |
| dilinger | (WW) RADEON: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:1:9:0) found | 11:28 |
| cjb | Hm. The rt2400 wifi driver doesn't work with SMP (!). Does it work with smp-alternatives, though? | 12:02 |
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