[12:16] ajmitch: No, I think I'm losing the battle :'-( [12:17] Morning all === nictuku [n=yves@unaffiliated/nictuku] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sloo23-m [n=sovvy200@82-47-24-19.cable.ubr01.brom.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:18] Heya Yagisan [12:22] bddebian: are you familiar with automake ? [12:22] Enough to be dangerous [12:23] bddebian: great, I'm not. Is there a nice easy way to regenerate Makefile.am without me having to type in every single .h file ? [12:23] Regenerate the Makefile.am? [12:24] bddebian: yeah. what it lists and what actually exist are rather different [12:25] Oof. I'm sure sure of an automated way to do that, sorry :-( === sovvy2009 [n=sovvy200@82-47-24-19.cable.ubr01.brom.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:27] bddebian: my upstream for a not-yet-in-ubuntu project moved to a mac, and I get to be the lucky guy to get it going on linux again. [12:27] Yagisan: Lucky you :-) [12:31] bddebian: yes lucky me :( === womble [n=mpalmer@106.135.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:41] morning womble [12:42] Morning ajmitch [12:42] How are things in your part of the world? [12:42] fairly good [12:42] how about you? [12:43] hey guys [12:44] Not too badly. I'm at a client site for the next few weeks, doing unspeakable things to their systems. The 2nd monitor they've given me to hook to my laptop is larger than my freaking TV [12:44] bddebian: make sure you give the right name when attributing patches :) [12:44] morning Lathiat [12:44] ajmitch: still in nz? :) [12:44] Lathiat: yes, did you expect me to have moved to .au? === gaz00 [n=darren@S01060014bf85cfcd.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:45] ajmitch: we can only hope [12:47] sorry to disappoint, but I'm still in Dunedin :) === juan [n=juan@cable201-232-31-3.epm.net.co] has joined #ubuntu-motu === erez_ [n=erez@89-138-110-105.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:22] ajmitch: Did I give the wrong name? I was worried about that :-) [01:23] phil != phill ;) === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:32] Bah [01:33] it's ok, I was "David" for a while [01:33] ajmitch: Can I just add an install file to a cdbs package to install a desktop file? [01:33] Oh, Heya David [01:40] bddebian: ? [01:40] ajmitch: gdpc is built with cdbs but has no install or files files, just a dirs file [01:42] bddebian: you could just do a dh_install in debian/rules, I think [01:42] hey all [01:42] hello jmg [01:42] anyone know how to set configure reprepro for a ubuntu repo? [01:43] i've been doing apt repositories the wrong way all this time [01:43] bddebian: in that case, just use a .install [01:43] specifically what Suite: and Codename: i use [01:43] can't say I've ever used reprepro [01:44] I have, it works pretty well [01:44] bddebian: any hint? [01:45] jmg: What are you having a problem with? === MySTiK333 [n=brian@p549A2305.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:46] bddebian: how to configure it for ubuntu and for debian [01:46] bddebian: if that is even possible [01:46] bddebian: what values to use for Suite: and Codename: [01:46] Oh, hmm [01:49] wonderful, a typical dunedin autumn day === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ajmitch will be back later [01:55] Whee === paridempath [i=flooblek@ip72-197-228-26.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:58] whats up yo [01:58] hi paridempath [01:58] what's your story laserjock [01:59] what do you mean? [01:59] I think I asked this already, but how bad can I expect things to be if I install dapper now? [01:59] what gets you out of bed in the morning [01:59] is locales horked? [02:00] havoc: no problems, dapper is perfect and you should put it on all your servers, now ;-) [02:00] heh [02:01] this would be going on my workstation [02:01] the machine I'm using now [02:01] I found it better than breezy was months ago so... [02:01] but it sorta depends [02:01] on? [02:01] it's under a freeze now, right? [02:02] mostly translations left? or is there more? [02:02] jmg: WFM [02:02] some people find some things that worked in brezzy don't work anymore, mostly old hardware issues I think [02:02] LaserJock: ah, strange [02:03] any examples? [02:03] like video cards? === Se7h [n=MUAHAHAH@bl4-83-211.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:03] or other crap? [02:03] well, I'm not sure but I thought I saw some printer and video cards === mode/#ubuntu-motu [+o theCore] by ChanServ [02:03] ok [02:04] pretty much stuff that isn't so much Dapper's problem as having newer software === paridempath [i=flooblek@ip72-197-228-26.sd.sd.cox.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === caravena [n=caravena@200.72.202.242] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:08] crimsun: Wait For ME? [02:08] works for me. [02:09] crimsun: im on ubuntu-minimal === erez [n=erez@89-138-110-105.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:10] what's broken? [02:10] this should probably be addressed in #ubuntu+1 === Kyral [n=kyral@HyperDream.hamlin.clarkson.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:12] perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C"). [02:13] jmg: that's not broken, that has always existed. Thank Perl. [02:13] gah, ECHANNEL === mat [n=mat@igoan/mat] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kyral [n=kyral@HyperDream.hamlin.clarkson.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Meyer [i=mariomey@ubuntu/member/mariomeyer] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bpuccio [n=brian@ool-457a9c38.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:46] uh? I'm an op === mode/#ubuntu-motu [-o theCore] by theCore [02:48] \o/ yay === poningru [n=poningru@n128-227-69-56.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === FunnyLookinHat [n=FunnyLoo@71.57.11.218] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo_ [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:07] slomo_: hey dude [03:09] hi Unfrgiven [03:09] and slomo_ [03:25] hey LaserJock [03:25] LaserJock: hows things? [03:40] LaserJock: I saw the changes you made to the packaging guide regarding pbuilder. They look good. Just one thing, there is no description of what " [03:41] LaserJock: "" needs to be substituted. [03:41] LaserJock: I propose we put an informational message saying "dapper" or the next release codename once it is known. === truz24 [n=truz24@12-203-70-118.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:43] Unfrgiven: good point [04:00] afternoon [04:00] Heya ajmitch [04:00] hi ajmitch === Amaranth [n=amaranth@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lakin [n=lakin@S01060013101832ce.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === G0SUB_ [i=ghoseb@ubuntu-in.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TheMuso [n=luke@ubuntu/member/themuso] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:59] !seen hunger [05:01] no bot like that in here [05:06] ajmitch: but here is [05:07] jmg: haven't been here in last 48 hours [05:07] hmm, anybody know where the default Dapper background is for gnome? [05:08] crimsun@garnish:~$ dpkg -L ubuntu-artwork|grep warty [05:08] /usr/share/backgrounds/warty-final-ubuntu.png [05:08] /usr/share/backgrounds/warty-final-ws-ubuntu.png [05:08] :) === bddebian hugs crimsun [05:09] hi bddebian :) [05:09] :-) [05:09] warty? [05:10] LaserJock: yes, warty. [05:10] that probably dates me, but.. [05:10] hehe [05:12] well, it worked, so whatever === theCore [n=alex@toronto-HSE-ppp4207834.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-motu === azeem [n=mbanck@host109.natpool.mwn.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === theCore [n=alex@toronto-HSE-ppp4207834.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:55] LaserJock: Still awake? [05:58] yep\ [05:58] still working on the floor :-) [05:58] Bah, floor :-) [05:59] Who is Zygmunt? [05:59] hmm, not sure [06:00] bddebian: you know, you should get honorary MOTUScience membership for this ;-) [06:01] bddebian: is Zygnmunt on a bug report? [06:03] bddebian: oh zyga, I think he was around for a Hug Day [06:06] Oh yeah zyga, OK [06:06] He just says he is on a couple of these bugs so I didn't want to step on any toes :-) === AstralJava [n=jaska@cm-062-241-239-184.lohjanpuhelin.fi] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:27] bddebian: rebuilt the universe for .desktop love? === ajmitch has done a quick rebuild of packages depending on libssl0.9.7 [06:27] ajmitch: yeah, the key is to file a bug for everything. then he goes and does it [06:27] will do the sort & upload [06:27] LaserJock: ah right [06:28] I knew I must be doing something wrong [06:29] Huh? What'd I do wrong now? [06:29] bddebian: the key to getting you to do all the work === womble [n=mpalmer@106.135.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === No1Viking [n=Viking@h-83-140-104-3.ip.cust.port80.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:34] dang it, how does bddebian do it. I was within 1000 a couple days ago. now he has almost doubled me :/ [06:35] I have no life :-) [06:35] hmm, I wish I didn't ;-) === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:41] yo [06:41] Heya chillywilly [06:42] hi [06:42] Hello Hobbsee === Hobbsee wonders why she has a suspicious lack of sound on 2.6.15-20-386 [06:43] what hardware? [06:44] hi Hobbsee [06:44] hi LaserJock [06:44] crimsun: which in particular? forgotten how to find it [06:44] give me a sec...then i'll need help :P [06:44] hello [06:45] LaserJock: simple reason, see the wiki [06:45] ? [06:46] BddebianIsAGod [06:46] Bah [06:47] I gotta delete that freakin' page [06:47] hi ajmitch [06:48] ajmitch: yeah, yeah. I should have know better [06:49] bddebian: are you looking for other bugs in the packages? [06:50] bddebian: it'll just come back [06:50] how's it going, Hobbsee ? [06:51] good, got stopped at almost every single darned traffic light coming home from uni - when i was tryign to miss the schoolzones [06:52] lucky :) === ajmitch loves bzr [06:53] LaserJock: Yes, where feasable [06:54] I wonder how well bzr would work for the doc team repo [06:54] OK, 1am is late enough for this old fart, I gotta work tomorrow. Later folks [06:54] Gnight folks [06:54] LaserJock: very well [06:54] bddebian: slacker [06:54] cya bddebian , thanks for all the work [06:54] bddebian: gnite [06:54] good night bddebian :) [06:54] ajmitch: Yeah, no kidding :-) [06:55] LaserJock: NP [06:56] ajmitch: is there a GUI for bzr yet? [06:58] Unfrgiven: not that I'm aware of [06:58] ok, time for me to wander off & talk to someone about ubuntu :) [06:59] ooh fun [06:59] dont talk - just install the thing :P [06:59] that's what I'm talking to him about [06:59] ajmitch: u at work? [06:59] since it's not your normal pc [06:59] bbl [07:01] yes, dotn talk - install it, then let him play - no talking required === sono [n=eduardo@dsl-201-128-174-121.prod-infinitum.com.mx] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sono [n=eduardo@dsl-201-128-174-121.prod-infinitum.com.mx] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Abandonando"] === bhuvan [n=bhuvan@ubuntu/member/bhuvan] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:46] Hobbsee: the talking required was to sort out price [07:46] ah... [07:46] good price, or bad price? [07:46] and who gets the money, for that matter... [07:46] good for me [07:46] I would === Hobbsee is curious now [07:46] nice - well done! [07:47] so you have the deal now, or is it still in the "deciding" phase? [07:47] deciding, then the initial phase [07:47] then after a couple of weeks or less, we see what happens from there [07:48] *nods* [07:48] cool === ajmitch doesn't know much yet [07:49] but it could end up consuming a bit of my time [07:49] this is good, or bad? [07:49] i guess good, if it's about ubuntu as well, so you'll be learning more of it anyway [07:49] good [07:50] in that I'd be employed [07:50] you can be a form of cri*msum - knowing everything and everything about a particular few areas :P [07:50] yeah, very good with that! [07:50] argh, he spelt my name wrong === ajmitch blames chillywilly === tortho [n=tortho@104.84-49-107.nextgentel.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === unstable [n=user_nam@unaffiliated/kerplunk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach [n=daniel@i577B02F4.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:55] hi dholbach [07:55] heya LaserJock! [07:56] hey dholbach! [07:56] good morning motu world! [07:57] dholbach: fyi, I've already done a rebuild of the libssl0.9.7 depending packages, you want me to upload those that Just Work? :) === ajmitch had done the rebuild before your mail, was just too lazy/busy to upload [07:57] ajmitch:sounds like a good idea [07:58] I should talk to siretart about setting up sbuild [07:58] hi dholbach [07:58] heya Hobbsee! [07:58] how are you all doing? === Hobbsee is wasting time, reading the newspaper before work :P === allee [n=ach@dialin-145-254-255-004.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:59] crimsun is doing a wonderfull proofreading job on the Packaging Guide right now [08:00] dholbach: I *might* get a job soon ;) [08:00] ajmitch:rock on! [08:00] ajmitch: that's great news [08:00] there's potential for it, anyway [08:00] ubuntu-related, too [08:02] morning folks [08:02] http://debian.thoughtcrime.co.nz/ubuntu/ [08:03] hi siretart [08:03] dholbach: I'll be on vac this week and return this weekend [08:03] ajmitch: you mean we'll hire you? :) [08:03] siretart: oh nice... so you finished all your work and can relax a bit now? [08:03] ajmitch: or someone else? [08:04] jmg: you can hire me if you want :) [08:04] dholbach: I'd suggest that you either approve uvf requests with 2 voices, of find a vacation replacement ;) [08:04] but I don't recall being contacted by your HR dept yet :) [08:04] siretart: you're going away? [08:05] dholbach: sort of. I think I worked on most of my backlog of work [08:05] ajmitch: I'll return this weekend [08:05] ajmitch: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SbuildLVMHowto [08:05] siretart: thanks [08:05] siretart: nice... where are you going for VAC? :) [08:05] dholbach: vienna :) === ajmitch doesn't have any unallocated space on LVM at the moment [08:05] siretart: I hope you enjoy it [08:06] siretart: I really should go there too... I didn't visit my sister yet :/ === tortho [n=tortho@104.84-49-107.nextgentel.com] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Ex-Chat"] [08:06] siretart: what's your current thoughts on zope-zwiki? [08:06] siretart: but have a good time down there! [08:06] ajmitch: then setup schroot to use a chroot on a plain subdir or a file (tarball, like pbuilder) [08:06] ajmitch: plain subdir chroots (traditional chroots) won't give you session management, though [08:06] hm, I see we're just waiting on slomo for zope-zwiki now [08:06] schroot on a file will? [08:06] ajmitch: I agree with dholbach, let's do that fast, so that we find bugs early [08:07] ajmitch: I think so, but I never tried that [08:07] ok === ajmitch will have to try [08:07] it is mentioned in the schroot.conf(5) [08:07] it might make my mass rebuilds a bit cleaner than just processing a list through pbuilder [08:08] I've got a couple general UVF/FF exception questions. [08:08] ajmitch: I use it on lvm, because I got new harddisks. if you want to extend it for schroot-file backend, just extend the wiki page. it might interest more ppl [08:09] I requested a sync for a new package before FF but it got stuck in the sync black hole, do I need a FF exception now to get it in? [08:10] siretart: I've got new hard drives as well, using LVM on RAID [08:10] ajmitch: the traditional sbuild mode is 'split' mode. that means that you have a 'normal' chroot, but use apt and dpkg from the host [08:11] ajmitch: exactly my setup. there is nothing faster than lvm snapshots on a raid 1 :) [08:11] siretart: no, new packages in universe is fine. https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/sounder/2006-March/005107.html === Lure [n=lure@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:13] dholbach: did the FF process get worked out? Do we need to do bug reports? [08:13] siretart: probably not, but my main build volume is 450GB RAID0 :) [08:14] so is LVM faster than non-LVM? [08:15] LaserJock: sorry, I don't know === carthik_ [n=carthik@user-0cej755.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:15] LaserJock: creating an snapshot on my machine is about 2 secs, extracting a pbuilder tarball about 20seks [08:16] LaserJock: removing the tarball takes longer as well than removing the lvm snapshot (which works with cow techniques) [08:16] LaserJock: afaik there's no current process for FF exceptions - I'd think that handling it in the same wasy as UVF would make sense === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:20] hmm, I wonder if the new sync process essentially would cover that. If I make a sync request, somebody on the ubuntu-archive team has to OK it [08:21] you could also use unionfs yeh? [08:21] with a tmpfs [08:21] also pbuilder-uml can do COW === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.36] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:28] Lathiat: you can't build too much on tmpfs [08:29] I'd hate to think how it'd go building firefox or oo.o [08:30] thats what lots of swap is for [08:30] :) [08:30] or even a disk image to unionfs too :) [08:31] dholbach, I have a gnome-translate package (almost) ready, is ubuntu-desktop still interested in it? [08:31] sounds nice [08:31] Lathiat: bah, I don't have any swap & I intend to keep it that way :) [08:33] dholbach, ok, I just have to add a man page, and I'll dput it on REVU [08:33] nice work - cool === ajmitch waits very very patiently for a daily install image [08:35] bye all! === cbx33 [n=pete@84-45-238-195.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:38] hi all === unstable [n=user_nam@unaffiliated/kerplunk] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [08:43] I'm trying to edit some documentation in the form of a man page [08:43] there is currently a .sgml and a .8 file [08:44] which one do i need to edit, does the .sgml create the .8 file by converting| === jabra [n=jabra@polish.ccs.neu.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:46] for the package nvidia-glx in dapper has it been updated yet? [08:47] cbx33: yes, you can create the man page from the .sgml [08:47] ok...I'll edit the sgml.... [08:47] cbx33: edit the .sgml file. Have a look at the rules file. Try 'debuild clean' and the .8 file should be deleted [08:47] do i use the sgml2txt function there? [08:47] ok [08:48] thank you [08:48] guess it does [08:49] cbx33: docbook2x-man [08:49] thank you [09:03] w00t... === TMM [n=hp@ip5650d1ab.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === doko_ [n=doko@dslb-088-073-093-191.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:48] great to see kubuntu rumours going round & getting completely blown out of proportion [09:48] poor Riddell :) === Gervystar [n=gervysta@217-133-96-194.b2b.tiscali.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:49] ajmitch where is the rumours about kubuntu ? === KillerKiwi2005 [n=jason@203-173-151-77.bliink.ihug.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:50] freeflying: various crappy 'news' sites [09:51] http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/1917 for some actual info [09:51] is there a list of packages waiting for inclusion for ubuntu? [09:51] ajmitch got it ,thx [09:52] KillerKiwi2005: what do you mean by waiting for inclusion? [09:53] im looking at http://sax.berlios.de/ and wonadering if its slated to make it into ubuntu at any time [09:53] packages that have been started & are being reviewed get uploaded to revu.tauware.de, so check there first [09:53] otherwise we don't know if some people decide to package stuff by themselves & not tell us [09:55] ajmitch: kind of stange, nothing on x config in luanchpad or wiki as far as i can tell [10:23] hi here === TMM [n=hp@ip5650d1ab.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:43] Hi there [10:44] I have an issue when building gnome-translate with pbuilder: http://pastebin.com/650909 [10:44] I don't really know how I can handle this, any idea? [10:44] dholbach: ping [10:44] slomo_: ping [10:45] Unfrgiven: pong [10:45] slomo_: i take it meebey didnt upload MD 0.10? [10:45] slomo_: to debian i meant [10:46] Unfrgiven: nope... upstream does insane things :) we spent most of the time to find a solution for the stetic binary they have in their tarball without any sources... [10:46] slomo_: ugghhhh. binary? dodgy dodgy [10:47] Unfrgiven: pong - hey! :) [10:48] dholbach: how r u? [10:48] Unfrgiven: it's not the first one :) but for the other's we have the things already packaged... well, we will package this with the binary for now and tell people in debian/copyright that the sources can be retrieved from mono svn... i think the package may be ready soon :) [10:48] Unfrgiven: fine thanks... how are you? [10:48] hi daniel :) [10:48] hey slomo_ :) [10:48] dholbach: good good. ive had some time on my hands so ive been getting involved again [10:49] Unfrgiven: good to have you back :) [10:49] slomo_: thats really not good enough if its GPL licenced [10:50] lifeless: i know... but it's MIT licensed [10:50] k [10:51] lifeless: otherwise i would've thrown some stones at them :) (and GPLed libraries are bad anyway) [10:53] slomo_: they aren't 'bad' per se IMO. Just hard for some folk to use [10:54] hi lifeless, slomo_ [10:54] hi ajmitch [10:54] hija === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:02] dholbach: so what do you say to having zope 2.9 in dapper? ;) [11:03] 2.7 is getting removed from debian === bstqc_ostl [n=jianggw@210.76.122.26] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:03] ajmitch: please ask doko for that [11:03] he'll possibly just tell me to deal with it, being universe === ajmitch will check [11:03] ajmitch: dude, you're member of the zope team as well ;) [11:04] slomo_: so are they going to release the source for stetic? [11:04] doko: yeah, but dholbach wants me to pass everything by you :) [11:04] we can't possibly say "we tested it", can we? === ajmitch has a few things to pass by debian as well [11:04] ajmitch: hm? I just have no clue about it and trust other people's advice [11:04] ajmitch: talk with fabio, he did want to prepare a list of packages to sync [11:04] Unfrgiven: it's in svn [11:05] ok [11:05] Unfrgiven: http://svn.myrealbox.com/viewcvs/trunk/stetic === Gervystar [n=gervysta@217-133-96-194.b2b.tiscali.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ajmitch will try & chase up the zope-zwiki debian maintainer again also [11:05] slomo_: cool. === womble [n=mpalmer@eth359.nsw.adsl.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:13] sigh, more code that just fails on amd64 === nomed [n=nomed@host182-194.pool8254.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lucas [n=lucas@d83-179-169-73.cust.tele2.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zerokarmaleft [n=zerokarm@ip68-12-45-133.ok.ok.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks_ [n=ivoks@lns01-1940.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === infinito [n=infinito@VPNPOOL01-0198.UNI-MUENSTER.DE] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zakame [n=zakame@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:44] hi all [11:44] has anyone a second to review this? http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2255 [11:44] hey zakame [11:44] hi all [11:45] hey Gloubiboulga [11:45] one question .. i get this W [11:45] old-fsf-address-in-copyright-file <-- [11:45] ? [11:45] hi nomed [11:45] it's not a big issue [11:46] if the sources headers use an adress, just keep the same in the debian/copyright file [11:46] hey Gloubiboulga [11:47] heya zakame [11:47] hello Toadstool [11:48] nomed, but you can ping upstream and propose them to update the adress ;) [11:48] i guess it 's what i'll do :) [11:48] nomed: just ping upstream, it's not really your problem :) [11:48] nomed: of course, feel free to submit a patch :) [11:49] zakame, yep [11:50] one more question .. [11:50] i have this libfoo11 [11:50] of course they don't really conflicts with libfoo10 ... [11:50] but once you've installed the newer one .. [11:50] the v 10 is not really needed .. [11:51] should i add a conflicts entry ? [11:51] nomed: I think a Replaces: is a better option but I'm not an expert ;) === koke [n=koke@ubuntu/member/koke] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:52] nomed: does libfoo11 obsolete the older version? [11:52] hey koke [11:52] infinito, I can't find this package in ubuntu, is this the first release? [11:52] hi all! [11:52] hey ajmitch koke [11:53] hey zakame, how's it going/ [11:53] ajmitch: just committed a fix for malone 38619 [11:53] Malone bug 38619 in balsa "FTBFS: using deprecated GNOME_PARAM_POPT_TABLE" [Major,Fix committed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/38619 [11:53] zakame, the problem is that it may be possible user has some bin .. that he wrote [11:53] that could need those libs .. [11:54] zakame: nice :) [11:54] that's why i just added a replaces entry .. [11:54] but in most of the cases i guess users should consider old libs obsolete [11:55] i do not really know what to do here .. [11:56] bbl [11:56] nomed: Replaces is only meant to be used when there's some file overlap between packages [11:58] nomed: also libraries are meant to be parallel installable, so you shouldn't need to have a newer lib conflict/replace the older [11:58] a fun doc to read is the debian library packaging guide [11:58] ajmitch, perfect so it's fine as it is :) === ugner [n=ugner@tor/session/x-41216fe7aa8c1e3f] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Toadstool is going to read the debian library packaging guide... [12:00] is it true about kubuntu? [12:01] ugner: do you mean the wild & completely unsubstantiated rumours? [12:02] or what 'it' do you refer to? [12:02] ajmitch: how unsubstantiated and how rumoural can they be when the site itself is offline?? [12:03] www.kubuntu.org is online as usual [12:03] ajmitch: i mean, isn't that a proof? [12:03] a proof of what? :) [12:05] either way, this really is off-topic for here [12:08] Gloubiboulga: yes, its the first release for ubuntu === Gervystar [n=gervysta@217-133-96-194.b2b.tiscali.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:10] infinito, ok, then 1 changelog entry is enough :) [12:11] and the version should be 0.7.0-0ubuntu1 [12:11] raphink, ping [12:11]