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| thedarkener | what's up people! | 12:19 |
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| thedarkener | WAKE UP! =p | 12:19 |
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| juliux | thedarkener, whats up? | 12:19 |
| lns | nada mucho | 12:20 |
| lns | just got back doing an edubuntu install, 6 terminals online so far | 12:20 |
| juliux | great | 12:20 |
| lns | another 4-8 to go for this site | 12:20 |
| lns | and hopefully many more soon | 12:21 |
| mhz | cool news | 12:24 |
| mhz | juliux: hey mon! long time no see ya | 12:25 |
| mhz | (my fault though) | 12:25 |
| lns | ogra, you around? | 12:26 |
| lns | so can anyone link me to some documentation on customizing default things like desktop backgrounds for new users, ldm splash, etc? | 12:32 |
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| are-12 | hello all | 02:56 |
| are-12 | i'm booting up fine, but get stalled at a login screen | 02:59 |
| are-12 | are there demo accounts on the live cd (dapper flight 6) | 02:59 |
| are-12 | ?? | 02:59 |
| are-12 | thanks for all the help | 03:26 |
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| are-12 | ah ... acording to the wiki (i'f i'm reading it right) i want to boot dapper live and select WORKSTATION, otherwise i boot into a (USELESS) thin client | 04:25 |
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| are-12 | not entirely intuitive, but makes sense | 04:26 |
| bimberi | are-12: ah, kk (did see your Q earlier but couldn't help) | 04:27 |
| are-12 | aretwelve is at my office and i'm home now as are-12 | 04:28 |
| are-12 | so i'll have 16 hours of chat to scroll through when i get to werk | 04:28 |
| are-12 | BUT ... the basic problem is, i boot up (defaults into live dapper flight 6, then x loads and i'm challenged for a user / pass ... and no matter what ... nothing logs me on ... as there's not thin client server on my netwerk | 04:30 |
| are-12 | so i suppose i need to tell it to boot workstation style | 04:31 |
| are-12 | is that "linux workstation" or just "workstation" ??? | 04:32 |
| are-12 | (actually, i'm reading the install notes for 5.10 ) is 6.4(6?) more or less the same? | 04:33 |
| bimberi | are-12: sorry, i don't have the edubuntu livecd so I can't tell you. I'd try "workstation" first. Did you try "ubuntu" (or "edubuntu") with no password | 04:33 |
| are-12 | yup ... same old "you need to check your capitalization" error | 04:34 |
| bimberi | kk | 04:34 |
| are-12 | tried demo / demo and admin / admin and ubuntu / ubuntu and ubuntu / <CR> and about 20 other combinations .... the problem is i'm not in a "desktop environment" it's playing "thjin client" (SURE MIGHT BE GOOD TO USE SOME OF THAT SCREEN REALESTATE TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THIS) | 04:36 |
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| are-12 | so lemme go try that ... wish me luck | 04:43 |
| are-12 | thanks all | 04:43 |
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| JaneW | morning all | 08:40 |
| Burgundavia | salut JaneW | 08:40 |
| highvoltage | morning and salut! | 08:41 |
| === JaneW salutes | ||
| Burgundavia | wow, shipit in the 2nd result for free linux cd | 08:42 |
| JaneW | what's first? | 08:43 |
| highvoltage | !google free linux cd | 08:44 |
| ubotu | highvoltage: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/ | 08:44 |
| JaneW | heh | 08:44 |
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| Burgundavia | that is ubuntu canada. YMMV | 08:45 |
| JaneW | it's 4th on altavista | 08:45 |
| === JaneW gave someone a CD yesterday it was funny | ||
| JaneW | she runs a company | 08:46 |
| JaneW | and I said I had a CD with me | 08:46 |
| highvoltage | JaneW: i want some of your medication | 08:46 |
| JaneW | she asked if one of her tech guys could look at it | 08:46 |
| JaneW | and spent like 5 minutes convincing me that it would get used by an appropriate person, or they'd return it if they don't need it etc | 08:47 |
| JaneW | I had to eventually tell her 'It is FREE. Take it, keep it!' | 08:47 |
| highvoltage | hehe | 08:47 |
| JaneW | highvoltage: well actually my neck felt ok this morning, so I went for a short gentle run | 08:48 |
| highvoltage | i would even give her 5 more! :) | 08:48 |
| JaneW | I am completely drug-free today :)) | 08:48 |
| highvoltage | that's brave! | 08:48 |
| lucasvo | JaneW: wow, nopain killers? | 08:48 |
| JaneW | and feeling much more possitive | 08:48 |
| JaneW | yup | 08:48 |
| highvoltage | i thought your medication might be a cause for thinking that handing out cd's is funny :) | 08:48 |
| lucasvo | so the doctor actually helped you, and not just gave you painkillers(which is the normal procedure) | 08:48 |
| JaneW | highvoltage: heh | 08:49 |
| JaneW | lucasvo: well I went to a chiropractor and then physio | 08:49 |
| JaneW | the chiro actually didn;t want me to take meds, but I couldn;t think straight without them (or with them) | 08:49 |
| JaneW | I normally don't even take an asprin, but I was taking pain killers AND muscle relaxants | 08:50 |
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| JaneW | I think I still have some muscle sensitivity but at least they have loosened now, so I feel much relieved | 08:50 |
| lucasvo | I can't think straight with any meds | 08:51 |
| JaneW | lucasvo: you joined the edubuntu frapper group right? | 08:51 |
| lucasvo | yup | 08:51 |
| JaneW | I looked at it yesterday, and am sure I saw you... | 08:51 |
| JaneW | ok | 08:51 |
| lucasvo | in zurich | 08:51 |
| JaneW | yup | 08:51 |
| lucasvo | where are you? | 08:52 |
| highvoltage | edubuntu frapper group? | 08:52 |
| highvoltage | what's frapper? | 08:52 |
| JaneW | http://www.frappr.com/edubuntu | 08:52 |
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| JaneW | hey look who else is there..."TechnologyRescue.com Granite Bay (CA) | 08:54 |
| JaneW | Using Edubuntu in thin-client mode in our business!" | 08:54 |
| JaneW | sounds good | 08:55 |
| JaneW | or is that Burgundavia ? ^ | 08:55 |
| highvoltage | no, that is Steve. | 08:55 |
| highvoltage | he's not using edubuntu yet, but he's going to. | 08:55 |
| highvoltage | he's currently using K12-LTSP. | 08:55 |
| Burgundavia | JaneW: nah, we use multiseat X in what we do | 08:56 |
| lucasvo | horrible, anybody know how to reset the font-settings on mac osx? | 08:56 |
| === highvoltage notices that jsgotangco is quite literally half way around the world from here | ||
| highvoltage | lucasvo: i'm sure someone does | 08:57 |
| lucasvo | highvoltage: I think I'll install ubuntu on all our school machines | 08:58 |
| JaneW | highvoltage: oic, who is steve? | 08:58 |
| lucasvo | osx sucks | 08:58 |
| JaneW | highvoltage: yes jsgotangco is pretty far away | 08:58 |
| highvoltage | JaneW: Steve Hargadon, here is his blog: http://stevehargadon.blogspot.com/ | 08:59 |
| highvoltage | JaneW: he works with thin clients and refurbished machines | 08:59 |
| JaneW | highvoltage: oh right, yes I 'know' him from e-mails and he does a lot of trade shows etc | 08:59 |
| highvoltage | JaneW: very nice guy, he wants to roll out 100 labs in the US some time | 08:59 |
| JaneW | highvoltage: excellent | 08:59 |
| highvoltage | JaneW: and base a big part of it on the tuxlab model | 08:59 |
| highvoltage | yeah, he's very active. | 09:00 |
| JaneW | highvoltage: we should give him more support | 09:00 |
| JaneW | I wish I had a budget | 09:00 |
| JaneW | *sigh* | 09:00 |
| highvoltage | definitely. we could all benefit from a relationship. | 09:00 |
| highvoltage | JaneW: when you're in again, let's talk in person | 09:00 |
| === JaneW will see what can be done | ||
| JaneW | highvoltage: yes lets | 09:01 |
| JaneW | I think I'll only come in next week, since this is such a short week | 09:01 |
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| JaneW | and I am dashing off to Robbie Williams on Thurs :) | 09:01 |
| JaneW | highvoltage: so prolly Tues, or maybe Wed next week | 09:02 |
| JaneW | ? | 09:02 |
| JaneW | I have received a new spam/virus, which is pretty effective (luckilly I am not too gullible) | 09:03 |
| JaneW | "Dear user of canonical.com, | 09:03 |
| JaneW | We have received reports that your account was used to send a huge amount of spam messages during this week. | 09:03 |
| JaneW | Obviously, your computer had been compromised and now runs a trojan proxy server. | 09:03 |
| JaneW | Please follow our instructions in the attached file in order to keep your computer safe. | 09:03 |
| JaneW | Have a nice day, | 09:03 |
| JaneW | canonical.com support team. | 09:03 |
| JaneW | " | 09:03 |
| JaneW | the attachment is a .zip | 09:03 |
| JaneW | yeah right | 09:03 |
| lucasvo | anybody know where one can buy a (boot) rom programmer? | 09:05 |
| lucasvo | a cheap/used one | 09:05 |
| highvoltage | JaneW: yep, tues or weds will be fine | 09:06 |
| highvoltage | JaneW: that's quite rich :) it would have been even funier if it was an .exe | 09:07 |
| JaneW | highvoltage: indeed | 09:07 |
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| lucasvo | ah, finally my ltsp machine is working again | 05:12 |
| highvoltage | yay! | 05:14 |
| lucasvo | highvoltage: I had a mainboard crash | 05:21 |
| lucasvo | second one this year | 05:21 |
| lucasvo | no, not this year, but during 365days | 05:22 |
| lucasvo | highvoltage: ah, yes, about proto.edubuntu.org | 05:22 |
| lucasvo | I wouldn't make the rounded corners where they "touch" the screen border | 05:23 |
| lucasvo | I don't know how to say this in english | 05:23 |
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| thedarkener | Has anyone had the issue of after adding a user (I've seen this in Breezy as well as Dapper up to flight 6), you try to login on a terminal, it goes black, big X11 'X' and back to the login? Even with the right password? | 06:38 |
| ogra | thedarkener, can you log in on the server dirctly with the user ? | 06:39 |
| thedarkener | i haven't tried, i just got a call this morning of this..i just installed another server here in my lab though i'll try it | 06:39 |
| thedarkener | it seems to happen intermittently | 06:39 |
| thedarkener | like if i try a few times it will log in | 06:39 |
| thedarkener | I'll check the logs too when i'm there next (it's 20mi away) | 06:40 |
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| lucasvo | thedarkener: yes | 06:44 |
| thedarkener | lucasvo, maybe we can help - can you describe what you're having problems with? | 06:45 |
| lucasvo | yup | 06:45 |
| lucasvo | how do I have to configure the network interface used for ltsp? | 06:45 |
| lucasvo | shouldnt sudo ifconfig eth0 up 192.168.0.1 be enough? | 06:46 |
| lucasvo | thedarkener: or do I need to do sth. else? | 06:46 |
| thedarkener | lucasvo, the edubuntu setup should bring the adapter up by itself | 06:47 |
| thedarkener | if you need to do it manually, yes 'ifup eth0' would work (provided you set up networking correctly during install) | 06:47 |
| lucasvo | thedarkener: I didnt set up the second interfafce during install | 06:49 |
| thedarkener | lucasvo, which interface is connected to the ltsp network? eth0 or eth1? | 06:50 |
| lucasvo | eth0 | 06:50 |
| lucasvo | eth2 is connnected to internet | 06:50 |
| thedarkener | you mean eth1? | 06:50 |
| thedarkener | eth2 would be a third interface | 06:51 |
| lucasvo | yes it is | 06:52 |
| lucasvo | I have 3 interfaces | 06:53 |
| lucasvo | on the server I do: ifconfig eth0 up 192.168.1.1 | 06:54 |
| thedarkener | lucasvo, if you do 'ifconfig eth0 up' command you have to manually enter much information about your network for it to route properly, etc. | 06:55 |
| lucasvo | thedarkener: so how should I do it ? | 06:56 |
| thedarkener | What I would do if I were you is edit your /etc/network/interfaces file and enter your settings for all network adapters you didn't configure during setup | 06:56 |
| thedarkener | that way you can simply type 'ifup ethX' when you need to bring up/down interfaces manually | 06:56 |
| lucasvo | thedarkener: can you paste your /etc/network/interfaces | 06:57 |
| lucasvo | ? | 06:57 |
| thedarkener | I can, but just keep in mind your IP settings will be different | 06:58 |
| thedarkener | iface eth0 inet static | 06:58 |
| thedarkener | address 192.168.3.50 | 06:58 |
| thedarkener | netmask 255.255.255.0 | 06:58 |
| thedarkener | network 192.168.3.0 | 06:58 |
| thedarkener | gateway 192.168.3.1 | 06:58 |
| thedarkener | use the keywords only, don't copy the IP settings | 06:59 |
| thedarkener | also put 'auto lo eth0' in there above it | 06:59 |
| thedarkener | so whenever you boot the machine it will bring up the interface(s) automatically | 06:59 |
| thedarkener | repeat those settings (with different ip settings of course) for each interface on your server | 07:02 |
| thedarkener | lucasvo, what is the third interface for? | 07:02 |
| thedarkener | dmz? | 07:02 |
| lucasvo | yes, but I dont need it atm | 07:03 |
| lucasvo | what do I have to set in the gateway field? | 07:03 |
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| thedarkener | i believe you'd put the IP address of the same interface | 07:05 |
| thedarkener | since it's going through itself | 07:05 |
| lucasvo | okay, now it says Failed to bring up eth0 | 07:06 |
| lucasvo | SIOCADDRT: Network is unreachable | 07:06 |
| thedarkener | lucasvo, what is the IP network of eth0 for you? | 07:07 |
| thedarkener | 192.168.X.0 | 07:07 |
| lucasvo | 1 | 07:07 |
| thedarkener | ok | 07:08 |
| thedarkener | verify everything in /etc/network/interfaces to make sure that it's correct for your 'iface eth0 inet static' stanza | 07:08 |
| thedarkener | and that there's no duplicates | 07:08 |
| thedarkener | can you paste it? | 07:09 |
| lucasvo | http://pastebin.com/653837 | 07:09 |
| lucasvo | I pasted no the same | 07:10 |
| lucasvo | I mean the whole file under the same url | 07:10 |
| thedarkener | ok | 07:11 |
| thedarkener | your gateway needs to be .1.1 | 07:11 |
| thedarkener | not .1.0 | 07:11 |
| lucasvo | oh | 07:12 |
| thedarkener | .1.0 is called the 'network address' | 07:12 |
| lucasvo | but it is definately not 192.168.1.1 | 07:14 |
| lucasvo | because this breaks my whole network config | 07:14 |
| thedarkener | hrm...hold on | 07:15 |
| thedarkener | ok try putting the gateway as the internet connected interface | 07:18 |
| thedarkener | the internal routing should take care of finding it | 07:18 |
| thedarkener | i think.. =) | 07:18 |
| lucasvo | ok, this works | 07:20 |
| thedarkener | awesome | 07:20 |
| thedarkener | ogra, do you have any guesses on the user login issue i'm having? | 07:20 |
| lucasvo | but, when I do dhclient eth0 on a client, it doesnt get anything | 07:21 |
| thedarkener | well that's a whole different thing there | 07:22 |
| thedarkener | you need to make sure all your dhcpd settings are correct | 07:22 |
| thedarkener | and that the daemon is running | 07:22 |
| thedarkener | since you're changing the network config, you need to change the ip settings in /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf to reflect it | 07:23 |
| lucasvo | it is running | 07:23 |
| ogra | thedarkener, did you check that the user can log in on the server ? | 07:23 |
| lucasvo | the dhcpserver is configured correctly | 07:24 |
| thedarkener | then do an /etc/init.d/dhcpd restart, see if that helps | 07:24 |
| thedarkener | ogra, sorry no :( was just wondering | 07:24 |
| lucasvo | I already did that | 07:25 |
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| ogra | thedarkener, first make sure the users are set up correctly, if thats the case lets dig deeper :) | 07:26 |
| lucasvo | even if I configure static IP address it doesnt work | 07:26 |
| thedarkener | ok thanks ogra :) | 07:26 |
| thedarkener | lucasvo, on the client are you trying to boot via ltsp? | 07:26 |
| lucasvo | no, it is a livecd | 07:27 |
| thedarkener | are you able to ping the server from the client when you statically assign ip settings? | 07:28 |
| lucasvo | no | 07:29 |
| thedarkener | check your network cable/switch | 07:30 |
| thedarkener | if you're sure all your ip settings are correct on the server and client and both server and client interfaces are up and running, there's nothing else it could be (besides a firewall?) | 07:31 |
| lucasvo | no | 07:37 |
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| thedarkener | are you sure the correct adapter is connected to your switch/hub, and not one of the others that aren't up? | 07:41 |
| lucasvo | if I put it into the other interface. it doesnt even come up | 07:42 |
| thedarkener | if you're statically assigning the IP address on eth0, it will come up even if it's not connected to the switch/hub | 07:44 |
| lucasvo | it takes more than 30s | 07:49 |
| lucasvo | and then it exits | 07:51 |
| lucasvo | without configuring the interface | 07:51 |
| thedarkener | sounds like it's still trying dhcp | 07:53 |
| lucasvo | no | 07:54 |
| lucasvo | then there would be output, wouldn't it/ | 07:54 |
| thedarkener | there should be | 07:54 |
| thedarkener | i've seen the situation before though | 07:54 |
| thedarkener | where even if you apt-get remove dhcpd, there is still a rogue process running | 07:55 |
| thedarkener | make sure no dhcpd processes are running | 07:55 |
| lucasvo | I don't think it is a problem ofdhcp | 07:57 |
| thedarkener | well i'm stumped then, i'm not sure what else it would be if everything we talked about was correct | 07:58 |
| lucasvo | thedarkener: thanks a lot | 08:03 |
| lucasvo | I have to work on that thing later | 08:03 |
| thedarkener | no problem lucasvo i hope you get it figured out | 08:05 |
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| highvoltage | goodnight, #edubuntu | 09:39 |
| ogra | ciao highvoltage | 09:39 |
| highvoltage | ciao! | 09:39 |
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| spacey | heh | 09:51 |
| spacey | whats a bounty subscriber | 09:51 |
| spacey | if you just want to get the latest comments | 09:51 |
| spacey | or does it directly mean you want to do the job (which i don't want to) | 09:51 |
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| Bluekuja | ogra: are you there? | 09:53 |
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| Bluekuja | oliver when you have some free time contact me | 10:22 |
| Bluekuja | tnx | 10:22 |
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| Rondom | spacey: I slo wondered about the bounty thing | 11:37 |
| Rondom | slo=also | 11:37 |
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