[12:03] <buz> complaining about dapper not working is frowned upon anyway
[12:03] <Wizz_Kidd> im not complaining im stating
[12:03] <Wizz_Kidd> trappist: are you a dev for Kubuntu
[12:03] <buz> you screaming for help
[12:04] <buz> and not in the nicest way, either
[12:04] <Wizz_Kidd> no one is screaming i was asking politely and buz seems like your having printer probs yourself
[12:04] <buz> nobody is saying the printing works like it should
[12:05] <cromo> buz: both cupsd are just the same
[12:05] <buz> weeeird
[12:05] <buz> lemme see
[12:05] <cromo> I'll  try with lp pass
[12:05] <cromo> delete everything
[12:06] <cromo> damn, there has to be a way
[12:06] <cromo> one more thing
[12:06] <cromo> under kcontrol, what do you have selected under "The print system used:"? (or similar, translated from my locale)
[12:06] <cromo> here I have CUPS
[12:06] <cromo> but the default one is LPD
[12:07] <buz> CUPS
[12:07] <buz> also, OO shows cups
[12:07] <cromo> and below CUPS?
[12:07] <buz> cups 1.1.99.b1.r4929-0ubuntu7
[12:07] <cromo> weird
[12:07] <buz> uhm localhost:631
[12:07] <cromo> oh
[12:08] <cromo> so it's the same
[12:08] <cromo> one one more
[12:08] <cromo> try in your browser:
[12:08] <cromo> localhost:631
[12:08] <buz> ic an acess it ;)
[12:08] <buz> i tried before
[12:08] <cromo> than I see
[12:08] <cromo> I cannot
[12:08] <cromo> but I used to
[12:08] <buz> are you sure cups is up?
[12:09] <cromo> ps ax|grep cups says so
[12:09] <cromo> I'll try to reboot, I am using initng here, even though it says it is run that could have something in common anyway
[12:10] <buz> i think i got default init here
[12:10] <buz> whatever ships with dapper anyway
[12:10] <cromo> buz: so yes, you got stock sysvinit
[12:10] <cromo> brb
[12:16] <toxic_> Does anyone know how I can use grep with root-tail ? (no, root-tail - logfile | grep mask) doesn't work. (Doesn't have to be grep, anything that makes root-tail adapt to print text that only matches pattern)
[12:20] <cromo> buz: same problem
[12:21] <cromo> I can see following error in /var/log/cups/error_log: http://pastebin.com/652371
[12:21] <cromo> err
[12:21] <cromo> I can see following error in /var/log/cups/error_log: Unable to open /etc/cups/subscriptions.conf
[12:23] <fiendskull9> hey
[12:23] <fiendskull9> does Kubuntu support XGL/compiz
[12:23] <buz> fiendskull9: go to #ubuntu-xgl
[12:23] <fiendskull9> ok
[12:24] <buz> and search for xgl in the wiki/forum ;)
[12:24] <buz> short answer: yes, but only in dapper
[12:24] <fiendskull9> damn
[12:24] <fiendskull9> my dapper disk was a bad burn
[12:24] <fiendskull9> and i dont wanna redownload
[12:24] <fiendskull9> tear
[12:25] <stasiek> hi there
[12:25] <trappist> toxic_: you'd have to grep the text before it gets to root-tail
[12:25] <cromo> buz: under kcontrol, kprinter, printing manager (or so - that's where you're setting cups), manager
[12:25] <toxic_> trappist, yeah I solved it, thx anyway
[12:25] <cromo> 's confgiguration:
[12:25] <cromo> Cups server: username
[12:25] <cromo> what do you have there?
[12:26] <buz> uhm?
[12:26] <buz> where
[12:26] <buz> under printer server?
[12:26] <cromo> this could be not revelant - I use different locale here
[12:26] <buz> judging by the number of stars, it would be my own pw  likely
[12:27] <buz> and my own username
[12:27] <cromo> let me switch to english for a sec
[12:28] <cromo> Print Manager - Configure Manager - CUPS Server
[12:29] <cromo> what do you see ther, in all the host, port, user, passwd?
[12:29] <buz> localhost 631 my user, stars ;)
[12:30] <cromo> hmm
[12:31] <cromo> are the stars in the same amount as your usual passwd?
[12:31] <buz> yes
[12:31] <cromo> any checkbox's selected?
[12:31] <buz> no
[12:33] <cromo> I'll gona have to ask some developer
[12:33] <cromo> or just file a bug
[12:34] <cromo> do you habe libuser package installed?
[12:35] <buz> dunno
[12:36] <cromo> sudo dpkg --list libuser
[12:36] <buz> no
[12:36] <cromo> put an asterisk by the end (libuser*)
[12:36] <buz> none of the perl ones either
[12:37] <cromo> and see if any of the results is marked with ii flags
[12:37] <buz> buz@buz:~$ sudo dpkg --list libuser"*"
[12:37] <buz> No packages found matching libuser*.
[12:38] <cromo> i see
[12:39] <Bambino> Anyone using dapper and can please give me 3 files? kcm_konsole.la kcm_konsole.so and libpng.so.3
[12:39] <apokryphos> Bambino: why can't you get them :P
[12:40] <Bambino> apokryphos, They dont exists for me
[12:40] <cromo> Bambino: apt-get install wajig
[12:40] <cromo> then, learn how to use it
[12:40] <Bambino> wajig?
[12:40] <cromo> it's the all-in-one utility
[12:40] <cromo> just like apt-get, apt-cache and dpkg in one
[12:41] <cromo> it actually is just a backend
[12:41] <cromo> then, wajig whichpkg libpng.so.3 will show you which packages contains this file
[12:41] <cromo> thus, you will easly install it with wajig install pkg_name
[12:42] <apokryphos> or just use apt-file
[12:42] <apokryphos> or, even, just use packages.ubuntu.com
[12:43] <Bambino> ok thanks
[12:53] <Xaero_Vincent> Is Kubuntu going to die?
[12:57] <kbrooks> OK
[12:57] <kbrooks> ATTN
[12:57] <kbrooks> Possible trademark violation.
[12:57] <kbrooks> Riddell: online?
[12:57] <Riddell> kbrooks: hi
[12:58] <kbrooks> Riddell: someone (or a team) is doing something bad to the actual kubuntu project
[12:58] <kbrooks> http://kubuntu.de/
[12:58] <Xaero_Vincent> kbrooks #kubuntu-de?
[12:58] <kbrooks> Xaero_Vincent: hold on.
[12:58] <Riddell> kbrooks: I know
[12:58] <kbrooks> Riddell: what are you doing tohandle this?
[12:59] <Riddell> writing e-mails to all the silly threads it has created
[12:59] <kbrooks> Riddell: what about being in #kubuntu-de ?
[01:00] <Riddell> kbrooks: I am
[01:00] <kbrooks> Riddell: okay
[01:02] <StringBlade> evening! anyone know how I might set my default sound card in Kubutu?  I've got the correct card as default for ALSA, but apps that use the OSS layer still use the wrong sound card.  Any ideas?
[01:02] <StringBlade> specifically, NWN
[01:08] <paulvolk> Hey Guys
[01:08] <mindspin> kbrooks: #kubuntu-offtopic would be the better place
[01:08] <kbrooks> right, Riddell. kubuntu history. ok. i remember that there was a wiki page talking about kde on ubuntu (not kubuntu)
[01:08] <kbrooks> mindspin: OK
[01:09] <Riddell> I don't remember that, "Kubuntu" was the first wiki page we had
[01:09] <kbrooks> Riddell: ages ago, before kubuntu.
[01:09] <kbrooks> Riddell: on the ubuntu wiki
[01:09] <paulvolk> I am having some trouble getting the JRE to work with Firefox. I have put the plugin into the /home/username/.mozilla/ directory but still no luck
[01:09] <Riddell> maybe I made a page to advertise my kde packages I made
[01:10] <paulvolk> how could I get JRE to work?
[01:10] <Riddell> !java
[01:10] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[01:10] <Riddell> paulvolk: seen that?
[01:10] <kbrooks> Riddell: so what happened since then?
[01:11] <Riddell> kbrooks: a year passed and we have a great distro
[01:11] <Riddell> well, 18 months actually
[01:11] <kbrooks> Riddell: oh, THAT was last year
[01:12] <paulvolk> I will take a look at that
[01:13] <kbrooks> Riddell: just to say this. good work :P
[01:13] <mindspin> I still love hoary ;-)
[01:14] <MrFaber> good night
[01:14] <kbrooks> MrFaber: heh
[01:14] <kbrooks> mindspin: so you do. and?
[01:14] <mindspin> I 'm keen to get stable dapper
[01:14] <kbrooks> Riddell: were you usingg ubuntu before you started this?
[01:15] <mindspin> and want to give it to my customers
[01:15] <kbrooks> mindspin: dont.
[01:16] <kbrooks> mindspin: er
[01:16] <mindspin> why?
[01:16] <kbrooks> mindspin: oh
[01:16] <kbrooks> mindspin: sorry
[01:16] <Riddell> kbrooks: can't actually remember when I first installed it
[01:16] <kbrooks> mindspin: i thought you meant dapper flight6
[01:16] <mindspin> no stable dapper
[01:16] <Riddell> oh yes, it was after jdub phoned me
[01:17] <kbrooks> Riddell: odd.
[01:17] <Riddell> kbrooks: why?
[01:18] <kbrooks> Riddell: after this question, this may not be so odd: how long have you known jdub?
[01:18] <Riddell> since about the ubuntu preview release
[01:18] <kbrooks> Riddell: aha, so thts it
[01:18] <kbrooks> Riddell: :)
[01:19] <Riddell> that's what?
[01:19] <kbrooks> Riddell: now i understand.
[01:19] <kbrooks> brb
[01:20] <kbrooks> Riddell: the relation between kubuntu and ubuntu
[01:20] <Riddell> like siamese twins so we are
[01:23] <Bambino> Does anybody here know how to make so when i switch desktop, the tasbark gets empty? cause now, all its doing wheni switch is showing the desktop
[01:27] <Vge> Bambino: if you go to kcontrol>desktop>Taskbar>and unselect the "show windows from all desktops"?
[01:27] <Bambino> Vge, I love you! thanks
[01:27] <Bambino> ok not that kind of love
[01:27] <Vge> np
[01:27] <paulvolk> ok I have another question
[01:28] <robotgeek> haha, looks like we need op love in here!
[01:29] <paulvolk> I would like to use amarok as a media player yet when I try to open MP3's on it it won't work. how can I fix that?
[01:29] <tristanmike> !tell paulvolk about mp3
[01:29] <robotgeek> paulvolk: right click on the mp3, open with, and select amarok as default
[01:30] <Vge> paulvolk: in amarok mp3 needs libxine-extracodecs
[01:30] <Vge> *in dapper amarok needs
[01:32] <paulvolk> ok Robotgeek if I do that does it mean that from then on it will open MP3s with armarok by default?
[01:33] <Vge> paulvolk: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats <-- check "mp3" section
[01:33] <robotgeek> Vge: i think he is more concerned with doublie click to open mp3, but yes that would be the codecs :)
[01:34] <paulvolk> lol I have the codecs and robotgeek is right.
[01:34] <robotgeek> paulvolk: http://doc.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/desktopguide/C/ch05s02.html
[01:34] <paulvolk> thanks
[01:34] <Vge> "it won't work" is kinda large thing :)
[01:37] <paulvolk> Vge: what do you mean?
[01:38] <superbnerb> man, i finally got dapper drake to work!
[01:38] <superbnerb> long live the kubuntu?
[01:38] <Vge> paulvolk: well your problem could have been also missing codecs, but good that it works now
[01:40] <paulvolk> well when it gives you an error all you can do is try diffrent things unless it tells you specificly what you need.
[01:40] <paulvolk> ;p
[01:40] <paulvolk> one more thing
[01:41] <Vge> yup, darn im getting tired
[01:41] <Vge> have to join #kubuntu-offtopic
[01:42] <paulvolk> I have changed my cursor in Kde but for some reason when ever I use firefox when my cursor goes into the window it goes back to the old theme. Why does it do that?
[01:42] <paulvolk> It only stays when I am in the firefox window but still it gets annoying
[01:44] <Vge> paulvolk: this is fixed on dapper, but i can google you a solution, sec
[01:44] <paulvolk> Thanks so much
[01:45] <Vge> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-75474.html <-- check xMetaRidley post
[01:45] <paulvolk> ok
[01:50] <superbnerb> has anyone ever tried to install ndiswrapper through adept?
[01:50] <superbnerb> i get this weird ass message.
[01:51] <Vge> there are n+1 weird ass messages, please be specific
[01:52] <superbnerb> ouch... ok ok hold on.
[01:56] <Bambino> Does anyone know how i can show the trash can, home folder and system menu on my desktop?
[01:56] <Vge> home folder is easy
[01:57] <Vge> just make a link to ~/
[02:00] <superbnerb> ain't the trash can in the bottom right corner?
[02:00] <superbnerb> and why isn't make on kubuntu?
[02:00] <superbnerb> and su
[02:01] <Wizz_Kidd> anyone here drive motorcycles
[02:05] <Vge> superbnerb: becouse allowing root user can lead to security problems
[02:06] <Vge> !buildessentials
[02:06] <ubotu> Vge: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:08] <Vge> !build-essential
[02:08] <ubotu> [build-essential]  a meta package for software building see !gcc for more info
[02:08] <Bambino> Excuse me, How long does it actually to ./configure  file? ever since I got kubuntu, it takes almost 10 min for a 1mb file
[02:08] <Vge> 1Mb text file contains kinda alot of info, debends on your system
[02:10] <nuky> does anyone know a good webcam driver setup tutorial for kubuntu? my webcam doesn't have a brand as i bought it at a computer fair, however i've used it under windows and it was very good.. was looking for a general web cam installation tutorial online. any suggestions? thank
[02:11] <Vge> nuky: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam
[02:12] <nuky> Vge: thanks
[02:15] <fjellrev1> Can anyone help me find the path for my dvd player,when I pop a dvd in it goes to /media/hdb but when I try to go there myself I dont find it
[02:15] <zarephath> Hey all...asked in Dapper...I can't get KDE to setup my shared printer on Ubuntu PPC...it works fine in Gnome...so it must be KDE...
[02:18] <Vge> fjellrev1: try typing "mount" in konsole
[02:20] <fjellrev1> Vge: mkay.and thats supposed to tell me something ? :)
[02:20] <zarephath> http://pastebin.com/652621
[02:21] <Vge> fjellrev1: your righ, kinda misinfo, sry
[02:23] <Vge> fjellrev1: second click the cd on desktop and mount it, then go to /media folder
[02:23] <Vge> any better result?
[02:24] <robertsa> Is anyone else getting MD5 mismatches with Kubuntu Dapper?
[02:24] <Bambino> Does anyone knows why its taking 10 min to configure a file that usually takes seconds? this happened after kubuntu installation
[02:25] <zarephath> robertsa: Nope...just the printing system is hosed...maybe not if you have a printer attached...
[02:25] <robertsa> zarephath: No printer, just MD5 mismatches when doing "apt-get update"
[02:27] <robertsa> Nevermind, it stopped doing it. I must have caught it in the middle of an update or something.
[02:27] <fjellrev1> Vge: seems to work better now,thanks..Did it through mount dvd in konsole though.but I have to do this each time I put in a dvd?
[02:27] <RayFredPip> Help!How can I install KDE!
[02:27] <RayFredPip> I am using ubuntu OS!
[02:27] <paulvolk> don't you have to have Kubuntu to use KDE?
[02:27] <zarephath> RayFredPip: How about opening synaptic and searching for kde?
[02:28] <zarephath> paulvolk: Not if he is running Ubuntu..it is gnome based
[02:28] <RayFredPip> zarephath, that is not easy.I tried just now!
[02:28] <paulvolk> I know that
[02:28] <paulvolk> ok
[02:28] <zarephath> Look for kdebase for starters
[02:28] <RayFredPip> zarephath, a lot of software to be install
[02:29] <zarephath> Yeah no kidding....depending on what you want...if you are on dialup just download the Kubuntu CD
[02:29] <zarephath> Or order
[02:29] <zarephath> it
[02:30] <paulvolk> that can work too
[02:31] <vge> RayFredPip: try package named "kubuntu-desktop"
[02:31] <laszlok> RayFredPip: look in synaptic, and try and install the package names kubuntu-desktop
[02:31] <laszlok> *named
[02:32] <robertsa> It's big, but there's no way to get around that.
[02:32] <robertsa> KDE is always big.
[02:32] <zarephath> Anyone know what is needed to get midi working in KDE?
[02:32] <zarephath> Or Kubuntu for that matter?
[02:33] <RayFredPip> vge, Thank you very much!
[02:34] <RayFredPip> vge, but I want to know what the difference between Kubuntu-desktop and KDE?
[02:35] <laszlok> zarephath: a lot of hard work
[02:35] <RayFredPip> vge, I mean KDE conponents
[02:36] <vge> RayFredPip: im not 100% but i think kubuntu-desktop is just ubuntu metapackage that contains all the needed files
[02:37] <RayFredPip> vge, Thank you!
[02:38] <vge> zarephath: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/PlayingMidi <--this helps anything?
[02:39] <superbnerb> Please insert the disc labeled 'Kubuntu 6.06 _Dapper Drake_ - Alpha amd64 (20060331.1)' in the drive '/cdrom/' and press enter
[02:39] <superbnerb> i get this error when i i use adept and try to install ndiswrapper
[02:39] <superbnerb> i put it in and nothing....
[02:40] <stasiek> superbnerb: remove it from the list of repositories
[02:40] <vge> superbnerb: dont use cd repositories after you have installed the distro
[02:40] <superbnerb> oh, i guess it is something that simple eh.  i just tried this the first time, i wonder why it is like that out of the box?
[02:42] <vge> well, devs cant know when you need it or not i guess, but if you have internet connection, you dont need it.
[02:42] <superbnerb> so i went to adept and manage repos.... am i in the right place?
[02:42] <vge> yup
[02:43] <superbnerb> right clikc disable?
[02:43] <vge> yes
[02:44] <superbnerb> cool, it says it is installed. now to test :-)
[02:44] <superbnerb> thanks vge
[02:44] <vge> dont thank me yet, buahaha :)
[02:45] <superbnerb> vge: why  no SU?
[02:46] <stasiek> mac osx style?
[02:46] <vge> nope,  wrapper is not the best friend to play with allways
[02:47] <vge> superbnerb: it has sayd to be a security thing, use sudo allways when you need to "su do" something
[02:53] <vge> http://img148.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot108rm.jpg <-- got bored, heres my desktop :)
[02:55] <stasiek> is gnome 2.14 really faster?
[02:56] <stasiek> the last time I've used gnome was around 2.10 and it was sooo slow
[03:23] <_matthew> Hello can someone point me to a discussion for new users
[03:35] <_networker> Hallo - is there a way to view WMA9 video on kubuntu?
[03:36] <laszlok> _matthew: have you tried http://kubuntuforums.net/
[03:37] <_networker> nope
[03:37] <_matthew> yes I used them to install the nvidia drivers but the information I need to set up my monitor is not there
[03:38] <dalegribble> does anyone know what to install to satisfy a dependency for the following error: 'error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory', I've tried libgtk packages to no avail
[03:39] <crimsun> dalegribble: dpkg -l libgtk1.2|grep ^ii
[03:40] <dalegribble> i'm a moron :D  thanks!
[03:41] <jonathan_> you know....i am so impressed with this distro...i can finally move from windows now
[03:43] <_networker> congrats!
[03:43] <CheeseBurgerMan> jonathan_: Yeah, I stil have Windows, but mostly for games. :P
[03:43] <jonathan_> yeah, it just dawned on me that i'm doing everything i did in windows and its just great
[03:44] <jonathan_> it's on my desktop and laptop now
[03:44] <jonathan_> i use vmware but just for specific things when i absolutely have to
[03:45] <CheeseBurgerMan> vmware doesn't have an AMD64 package IIRC, and for games I wouldn't want to use VMware anyway. ;)
[03:46] <_matthew> is there a good source for setting up xorg that anyone can point me to?
[03:46] <jonathan_> this is true but i don't use amd64
[03:46] <jonathan_> i have one but don't use it
[03:46] <jonathan_> it's harder to find packages i guess.
[03:51] <jonathan_> night all... :)
[03:58] <zblach> hi
[03:58] <zblach> quick question. anyone know about samba?
[03:59] <zblach> rather,
[03:59] <zblach> !samba
[03:59] <ubotu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html
[03:59] <CheeseBurgerMan> I know that it exists, and I sometimes use it.
[03:59] <CheeseBurgerMan> What's the problem?
[03:59] <zblach> connecting to an existing windows network
[03:59] <ToyMan2> hmm. if I put a new skin in my products dir. and restart, and it doesn't show up in 'add new products', what's the debug procedure?
[04:00] <ToyMan2> i mean, nothing is complaining... is there a listing of what it takes for a plone product to 'take' somewhere?
[04:13] <DaSkreech> So whats up with the Kubuntu team having issues with canonical
[04:14] <frank23> DaSkreech: It's far from being as big an issue as the article suggests. I don't really know the details though
[04:15] <DaSkreech> I suspect it isn't I would just like to know whats going on
[04:15] <DaSkreech> and if it's a reasonable issue or just some people being jerks over money
[04:16] <frank23> DaSkreech: not sure...  Canonical is not responsible for the local websites though (except the ubuntu-xx.org ones)
[04:16] <DaSkreech> frank23: is it about the distro or the sites?
[04:17] <frank23> you need to ask someone who actually knows anything about it ;)
[04:19] <DaSkreech> Well.. the only person that I have heard comment on it was Johnathon
[04:20] <frank23> what did he say?
[04:20] <DaSkreech> It was ok
[04:28] <noiesmo> !java
[04:28] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[04:31] <noiesmo> !javadebs
[04:31] <jonathan_> hello, does anyone in here rip cd's with linux...if so, with what?
[04:32] <noiesmo> jonathan_, i use kaudiocreator with lame
[04:32] <laszlok> !javadebs
[04:32] <jonathan_> i'm looking to replace audiograbber
[04:32] <jonathan_> i loved it but it doesn't rip fast enough in windows
[04:38] <jonathan_> noiesmo: can i set the bitrate ?
[04:42] <noiesmo> jonathan_, yes
[04:42] <jonathan_> where
[04:42] <noiesmo> jonathan_, the default bitrate is variable
[04:43] <ToyMan2> jonathan_: konq has a nice kio thing
[04:43] <ToyMan2> insert the cd and it auto-rips in about 3 dif. formats
[04:43] <ToyMan2> just copy the one you want to the fs
[04:44] <noiesmo> jonathan_, open kaudiocreator then go to configure from there you can edit the lame settings
[04:44] <laszlok> jonathan_: do you see in the encoder settings where it says configure?
[04:44] <noiesmo> jonathan_, you will need to install lame as it does not come with kubuntu by default
[04:45] <laszlok> jonathan_: if you really want constant bitrate, you can change "--preset standard" to "--preset cbr 128" for 128kbps
[04:46] <noiesmo> variable is the better than constant
[04:46] <noiesmo> from what i read
[04:49] <laszlok> or you can just use oggenc
[05:04] <DaSkreech> Wait
[05:12] <jonathan_> sorry phone call....thank you for the info
[05:12] <jonathan_> are you there noiesmo?
[05:12] <noiesmo> yes
[05:13] <jonathan_> ok under configure ?
[05:13] <jonathan_> i have name, command line, extension
[05:15] <noiesmo> when I open kaudiocreator I then go setting configure kaudiocreator then click encoder
[05:16] <jonathan_> ok
[05:16] <jonathan_> there i have name, command line, extension
[05:16] <jonathan_> i selected lame and hit the configure button
[05:17] <noiesmo> yes then click the command line and move then cursor to the beginning of the line you should see lame --preset blah blah
[05:18] <noiesmo> this is were you can change "--preset standard" to "--preset cbr 128" for 128kbps
[05:18] <jonathan_> oh
[05:19] <noiesmo> jonathan_, you see it
[05:19] <jonathan_> hmm....wonder why it doesn't just have a slider or something ....yes i see it :)
[05:19] <noiesmo> cool now change it other wise bit rate standard is variable
[05:20] <jonathan_> ok....thanks
[05:20] <noiesmo> np
[05:36] <jonathan_> noiesmo, you said that variable was better than constant?
[05:36] <jonathan_> why is that ....
[05:40] <swaits> Kopete a little unstable for anyone else?
[05:41] <jonathan_> gaim swaits ...use gaim
[05:41] <noiesmo> jonathan_, I have read it somewhere and another user mentioned not much of an answer but maybe sus out lame home page
[05:43] <noiesmo> jonathan_, http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/000470.html
[05:43] <noiesmo> jonathan_, extract from url Once I heard the incredible difference in fidelity between variable bit rate (VBR) and constant bit rate (CBR) encoding, I can never go back.
[05:43] <jonathan_> hmm
[05:43] <jonathan_> well i will have to try it
[05:44] <laszlok> jonathan_: variable bitrate changes the amount of data used for less complex sounds. So like with VBR silence can be recorded with less data, and you end up with a smaller file size
[05:44] <jonathan_> ah
[05:44] <jonathan_> just as good quality?
[05:44] <laszlok> jonathan_: but also some mp3 devices have compatibility issues with VBR, cause everything used to be CBR
[05:45] <jonathan_> i have an ipod nano
[05:45] <jlb> hola kubuntu zealots
[05:45] <laszlok> jonathan_: well technically its less quality, but it only does it where you cant tell the difference, so yes the quality will sound just as good
[05:45] <jlb> can anyone tell me how to play my big a** list of .wma's in amarok?
[05:47] <DaSkreech> Press play?
[06:07] <nava> is there any keys sequence like "ctrl+alt+arrows" to change between desktops in kde?
[06:08] <laszlok> nava: ctrl+tab?
[06:09] <nava> thanks laszlok :)
[06:09] <laszlok> nava: you can change it in system settings --> regional & accesibility -->keyboard shortcuts, then search for desktop
[06:10] <nava> thanks alot :)
[06:10] <laszlok> np
[06:13] <dale_gribble> odd question...just installed breezy on a new machine, and installed both gaim and firefox.  neither were added to the menu, and if i try to edit the menu and add the path, it saves, but still doesn't display
[06:14] <dale_gribble> it will execute from a terminal
[06:42] <DjDarkman> hy ,i have major performance problems ,can someone help me out?
[07:10] <theripper> upgrade the computer
[07:10] <theripper> just  kidding
[07:10] <poningru> arr?
[07:10] <poningru> DjDarkman: whats wrong?
[07:11] <DjDarkman> my pc runs realy slow sometimes
[07:12] <DjDarkman> but i discused this on #kde and they said that it`s beause of the updatedb and azureus
[07:12] <DjDarkman> this is my ps aux output
[07:12] <DjDarkman> http://pastebin.com/652888
[07:13] <jlb> can anyone tell me how I can play wma files? Amarok and xmms are installed, but will not play them.
[07:13] <DjDarkman> and this is my pc
[07:13] <DjDarkman> Sysinfo for 'Darknet': Linux 2.6.12-10-386 running KDE 3.4.3, CPU: AMDAthlonXP1700+ at 1463 MHz (2908 bogomips), , RAM: 246/250MB, 130 proc's, 18.48h up
[07:15] <theripper> Sysinfo for "theripper"
[07:15] <theripper> Sysinfo for 'theripper'
[07:15] <robotgeek> DjDarkman, take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:15] <theripper> Sysinfo for 'theripper':
[07:15] <robotgeek> theripper: what are you trying to do?
[07:15] <theripper> sys info like he did
[07:16] <theripper> for my pc
[07:16] <robotgeek> theripper: DjDarkman -> don't spam, please
[07:16] <theripper> ok , i just wanted to see if it works
[07:17] <DjDarkman> robotgeek: i think that link was for jlb
[07:18] <robotgeek> yup.
[07:18] <robotgeek> jlb, take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:19] <DjDarkman> is the updatedb in my crontab?
[07:19] <robotgeek> DjDarkman: i would think so, sudo crontab
[07:19] <jlb> well out of all of the searching I did for the last few hours, I finally got someone with a fucking brain.  I'm really thankful. Have a good night.
[07:20] <robotgeek> jlb, please mind you language
[07:20] <DjDarkman> djdarkman@Darknet:~/tmp$ sudo crontab -e
[07:21] <DjDarkman> no crontab for root - using an empty one
[07:21] <robotgeek> DjDarkman: hmm, lemme see mine
[07:21] <jonathan_> wow....i am impressed robotgeek
[07:21] <jonathan_> finally ...it's nice to see a geek who actually doesn't like to hear bad language
[07:22] <jlb> ah, the elustrious mIRC cop. take care, my appologies.  Please be empatheitc with my frustrations.
[07:22] <robotgeek> DjDarkman: somewhere in /etc/cron.daily weekly etc
[07:23] <robotgeek> jonathan_: this is a coc complaint channel :)
[07:23] <Wizzy_Kidd> http://lanceit.com/temp/index.php
[07:23] <Wizzy_Kidd> opinion someone
[07:24] <jonathan_> just nice it's not allowed to go on...
[07:25] <jonathan_> wizzy, i'm not crazy about the color but it looks nice :)
[07:26] <DjDarkman> this is just not my day ,i wanted to upragrade my kde but the server looks like it`s down
[07:27] <Wizzy_Kidd> jonathan_: thanks
[07:29] <rob_> anybody here having trouble with the nvidia drivers?
[07:30] <Wizzy_Kidd> for what gfx card
[07:30] <rob_> Geforce 6800
[07:30] <esc> hallo
[07:30] <rob_> maybe 6600 I'm don't remember which one...
[07:31] <rob_> there was an nvidia-glx update for both my breezy and dapper drake machines today that killed my nvidia drivers
[07:31] <rob_> I can only get x to start using nv
[07:32] <captainbraille> How do I change my screen resolution?
[07:33] <rob_> I've never had problems like this before with other distro's.  Is this a pretty common Ubuntu issue?
[07:35] <captainbraille> How do I change my screen resolution?
[07:37] <robotgeek> captainbraille, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:40] <Wizzy_Kidd> nope
[07:41] <captainbraille> robotgeek, thanks that worked great
[07:52] <noaXess> hi all..
[07:52] <noaXess> i have downloaded and installed ubuntu 5.1 and then installed kubuntu-desktop.. is that the same as download and install kubuntu 5.1 ?
[07:59] <Systlaine> hi all, i was wondering if anyone here could help me with a x server issue im having in breezy...
[08:01] <Systlaine> ...alright, nevermind then :/
[08:08] <noaXess> is there an apt-get source list for kubuntu?
[08:31] <DjDarkman> hy i need a program to create animated gif images ,what should i use?
[08:35] <DjDarkman_> sorry ,but i got disconected ,did i get answer to my previous question?
[08:37] <me2win> DjDarkman_: the gimp
[08:37] <me2win> ?
[08:39] <DjDarkman_> i don`t know i used it long ago ,but didn`t notice that it has animated gif creating function
[08:41] <me2win> DjDarkman_: might wanna try Krita
[08:42] <DjDarkman_> ok i have 2have installed ,i`ll try it right away
[08:42] <DjDarkman_> 10x
[08:43] <Dasnipa`> summer
[08:50] <dave_cb> hello
[08:50] <dave_cb> anyone alive here?
[08:51] <dave_cb> urgent!!! =X
[08:56] <laszlok> dave_cb: whats so urgent?
[08:56] <dave_cb> ohhhhhhh
[08:56] <dave_cb> im having a problem playing cds under kubuntu (i just made a fresh installation of the latest kubuntu version) , mp3s work nice system sounds too but when i try to play a cd under any music player i don t get any sound or (on kaffeine) i get an error message! what should i do?
[08:57] <Somefilename> deave_cb, Kaffeine is not a music player.
[08:57] <dave_cb> =X
[08:57] <me2win> :D
[08:57] <me2win> id lart you if it was still allowed
[08:57] <Somefilename> deave_cb, Check if you have all the engines for Kaffeine or other music player.
[08:57] <dave_cb> but kscd is and he doesn't play too =(
[08:59] <dave_cb> sorry about the ignorance but...how should i do that?
[08:59] <dave_cb> :S
[09:00] <Somefilename> dave_cb, Package kaffeine-gstreamer - check if you have it.
[09:00] <dave_cb> yep i have it
[09:00] <laszlok> dave_cb: kscd doesnt actually process the audio, it just tells your cd drive to send it to the sound card
[09:01] <laszlok> dave_cb: which means it has its own cd volume control in kmix
[09:01] <dave_cb> laszlok: the cd volume on kmix is on max
[09:01] <dave_cb> =X
[09:02] <dave_cb> the weird thing is that this doesn t happen on gnome
[09:02] <dave_cb> only with kde
[09:02] <dave_cb> :S
[09:03] <laszlok> dave_cb: what program in gnome?
[09:03] <dave_cb> all of them
[09:03] <dave_cb> sound juicer
[09:03] <dave_cb> real player
[09:22] <nobotz> trying to install kde on ubuntu
[09:22] <nobotz> I got the error
[09:22] <mathew-e> Does anyone know how to change the K icon at the bottom left conner to a different icon?
[09:22] <nobotz> NO_PUBKEY A506......
[09:23] <nobotz> did a gpg --recv-keys A506....
[09:23] <nobotz> still get the same error :-(
[09:24] <nrdb> When I ask 'adept' to do an update it thinks lots of things need to be done including removing the program 'dia', when I ask 'apt-get' to do an update it says there is nothing to be done, why the difference?
[09:24] <Hobbsee> mathew-e: change the file at ~/.kde/share/icons/(icon_theme)/(size)/apps/kmenu.png
[09:24] <Hobbsee> nrdb: does apt-get show packages being held back?
[09:25] <mathew-e> Hobbsee, thanks I will try that. Is that the place others place "Launch" icon?
[09:25] <Hobbsee> mathew-e: er.....huh?
[09:25] <Hobbsee> nobotz: can you paste the entire error to pastebin please?
[09:25] <nrdb> Hobbsee: yes ?
[09:26] <nobotz> ok Hobbsee
[09:26] <nobotz> I think I got it
[09:26] <nobotz> I need to do apt-key add
[09:26] <nobotz> and not gpg --recv-keys
[09:26] <Hobbsee> nrdb: then do a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, and it'll add those packages
[09:26] <Hobbsee> nobotz: yeah, that's usually it
[09:26] <mathew-e> Hobbsee: do you mean "yes" ?
[09:27] <nrdb> Hobbsee: why should I need to do a dist-upgrade ? has there been a new release?
[09:27] <Hobbsee> mathew-e: i dont understand the question
[09:27] <Hobbsee> nrdb: there hastn been, but dist-upgrade will include all packages, including new dependancies/stuff to be removed
[09:27] <Hobbsee> otherwise, apt-get install (packages left behind), and it will do the same thing
[09:28] <mathew-e> Hobbsee: I have seen other DISTROs like LINSPIRE has the "Launch" icon on KDE. Is it possible for us to do that by changing the icon in that directory?
[09:28] <mornfall> nrdb: are you only adding security updates? in that case, something must have gone horribly wrong
[09:28] <Hobbsee> mathew-e: got a screenshot of the launch icon?  i'm not quite sure what you're talking about...
[09:29] <mornfall> nrdb: and if you are on dapper, stop smoking crack ;-)
[09:29] <Hobbsee> mathew-e: or is that what's called "quick launcher" as an applet for kde panel?
[09:30] <nrdb> mornfall: no I am using other repositories other than security, and I am not using dapper.
[09:30] <mathew-e> Hobbsee: the icon is simmilar to Windows "Start" button icon. That is what I am refering to a "K" button.
[09:30] <mornfall> nrdb: what other repositories
[09:31] <nrdb> mornfall: I would like to know why 'apt-get' has suddenly decided not to update a lot of stuff including most of the kde packages.
[09:31] <laszlok> Hobbsee: no hes talking about the kmenu.png
[09:32] <mornfall> nrdb: upgrade never adds or removes packages
[09:32] <Hobbsee> laszlok: ah ok
[09:32] <Hobbsee> mathew-e: answer to that is "yes" then..
[09:32] <laszlok> mathew-e: Most every distro that uses the kicon for the menu will have it in that directory
[09:33] <nrdb> mornfall: ok, but why isn't it updateing 82 different packages?
[09:33] <mornfall> *sigh*
[09:33] <mathew-e> Hobsee: Have a look in bottom left conner - "http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=293&slide=38&title=linspire+5.0+screenshots"
[09:34] <mornfall> nrdb: maybe they now depend on something you don't have?
[09:34] <laszlok> mathew-e: not sure about linspire tho, they change a lot
[09:34] <Hobbsee> mathew-e: that's kde-look.org - search for kbfx
[09:34] <nrdb> mornfall: I would expect it to then download what is needed.
[09:35] <mathew-e> Hobbsee: Thanks I will check that website.
[09:36] <Hobbsee> !info kbfx
[09:36] <mornfall> nrdb: read the manual
[09:36] <Hobbsee> darn, that must only be on dapper, not breezy
[09:36] <mornfall> nrdb: upgrade is explicitly not supposed to install anything :)
[09:37] <Ranma> Hi 2 all
[09:37] <Hobbsee> hi
[09:38] <Ranma> I have an ati radeon card, does anyone knows if its possible to use the tv-out without proprietary drivers?
[09:47] <nrdb> mornfall: thanks for the help, I am now doing a 'apt-get dist-upgrade' I will the do a 'apt-get install dia' to reinstall the program its going to remove.
[10:00] <Bambino> Does anyone know how to get the trash can and my home folder to my desktop?
[10:01] <noteventime> Your homefolder can be created by right clock pn desktop -> create new -> Link to location
[10:02] <noteventime> I guess you could do the same with the trash can but that wouldn't give you the "Empty trash can functionality"
[10:04] <noteventime> tomas__, Hejsan  :)
[10:06] <captainredbeard> is there any program that I can get to periodically change my desktop background?
[10:11] <_ita> hi all ... could someone please pinpoint me to a description of the keywords in the repositories ?! like .. whats a multiverse, universe and so forth ?!
[10:14] <_ita> i think im talking about the so called "section name"s
[10:50] <mepis_6> hello all
[10:53] <noteventime> hello mepis_6
[10:55] <paines> hi
[10:56] <noteventime> 'ello
[11:10] <Bambino> can someone please help me and tell me why my ./configure now is taking 1000 years? no matter what i configure, a small theme. takes 10 min! then it gives me an error something with qt-mt
[11:13] <paines> Bambino: you are missing some packages
[11:13] <Bambino> paines, What kind?
[11:13] <paines> apt-get install libqt3-mt-dev
[11:13] <paines> the qt development packages
[11:13] <paines> and then maybe the kde development packagees too
[11:14] <paines> apt-get install kde-devel
[11:15] <jaaroo> I'm running dapper drake and till some day my kde stopped (without any rememebered interaction (maybe dist-upgrade)) to traverse windows from all desktop upon pressing alt-tab and limited traversal to active desktop only. I went through configure panel but found nothing wrong. Can anyone give me some advices how to get that behaviour back?
[11:17] <Bambino> paines, Thank you sir.
[11:18] <paines> Bambino: does is work ?
[11:18] <paines> np
[11:18] <Bambino> paines, I dont know mate, I am at work so I can't check. I just ask to find out so i can try, cause ive been asking for 2 days without any answer. Cause this happened when i got kubuntu.
[11:19] <_pip> Hello!
[11:20] <paines> Bambino: i see.
[11:21] <Bambino> _pip hi! :)
[11:21] <Bambino> paines, ya.. and konqueror opens with 2 extra tabs. for some reason. empty tabs. so lets say i wanna browse in konqueror. Then 3 tabs opens. One i browse in, and 2 empty
[11:21] <Bambino> paines, and Konsole is imposisble to konfigure, because there are missing files appearently to konsole. So, it's making my life a misery :(
[11:22] <_pip> Bambino: Hi
[11:22] <_pip> Bambino: I using Kubuntu desktop ,and you!
[11:22] <Bambino> _pip, Is that a wuestion?
[11:22] <Bambino> question*
[11:22] <paines> Bambino: I have that too with konqueror. I think that is a bug. could possibly be changed by deleting its config files in ~/.kde/share/apps
[11:23] <Bambino> paines, Cool, im gonna do that
[11:23] <dipnlik> hi all. i added bugs.kde.org to my bookmarks to use with katapult, but i want it to run when i type bko. how can i have this? tried editing the bookmark's name and comment, didn't work
[11:23] <paines> Bambino: what do you mean by konsole is unable to configiure
[11:23] <DARKSHIN> hi
[11:24] <DARKSHIN> how can I to install a program with kubuntu?
[11:24] <Bambino> paines, well if i go to Konsole and press configure, it says that kcm_konsole.la and .so is missing
[11:25] <Bambino> paines, so i read on the net that it can be fixed by adding those two if someone has them. So I did. Now a third file is missing all of a sudden.
[11:25] <jaaroo> DARKSHIN: there are many ways.
[11:25] <DARKSHIN> one of this...
[11:26] <_pip> Bambino: no!
[11:26] <DARKSHIN> i'm italian^^
[11:26] <_pip> Bambino: hehe~~Do you like gnome ?
[11:26] <jaaroo> DARKSHIN: you will probably like to use some gui to ease that. Dapper drake provides adept updater I think that breezy is based on Kynaptic. You can run it and work with it.
[11:27] <jaaroo> DARKSHIN: you could also use commandline gui - aptitude (I like it the most)
[11:27] <paines> Bambino: that is strange. that shouldn't happen
[11:27] <Bambino> _pip. ya :)
[11:27] <paines> Bambino: seems like update/upgrade process failed or something
[11:27] <Bambino> paines, What happend was like this. I had kde 3.4 i upgraded to 3.5
[11:27] <_pip> Bambino: both of them you like,right?
[11:27] <Bambino> paines, konsole stopped working for konfiguration, note htho, its still working as terminal
[11:27] <Bambino> _pip, Yes
[11:28] <jaaroo> DARKSHIN: or if you just want to install single package you know the name of then the fastest approach is to run (sudo apt-get install package-name)
[11:28] <Bambino> paines, so i removed the kde, and then deleted the entire folder. and installed Kubuntu. and now i am getting hell :(
[11:28] <paines> Bambino: bad
[11:28] <_pip> Bambino: Why can't I change the color ?
[11:28] <paines> Bambino: try when you caome home apt-get install --reinstall konsole
[11:28] <Bambino> _pip, where?
[11:28] <DARKSHIN> sudo apt-get install package-name <--------------------------------
[11:29] <DARKSHIN> good!
[11:29] <Bambino> paines, Does not work :(
[11:29] <paines> really ?
[11:29] <DARKSHIN> thx jaaroo
[11:29] <_pip> Bambino: Konversation!~
[11:30] <Bambino> _pip, Are you configuring it?
[11:30] <Bambino> paines, Yep .. :(
[11:30] <_pip> Bambino: Yes , I am trying
[11:30] <_pip> Bambino: But it doesn't work
[11:31] <Bambino> _pip, Weird. Works fine for me.. ? Hmm. Are you applying the colours after words?
[11:31] <_pip> Bambino: Hi,can you tell me how to change the run level of my ubuntu?
[11:32] <paines> _pip: edit /etc/inittab
[11:32] <Bambino> _pip, You better ask someone more advanced then me mate. I know how to run away from ubuntu
[11:32] <_pip> paines: level which?
[11:33] <_pip> Bambino: OK
[11:33] <paines> _pip: ? well you have to know which level you want
[11:33] <_pip> paines: comand line mode
[11:34] <_pip> paines: which one?
[11:34] <paines> _pip: well thats 2.
[11:34] <paines> iirc
[11:35] <_pip> paines: I am going to have a try .
[11:35] <nexus10> Hi. I want to install gcc 3.4 on a standard Kubuntu breezy box. apt-get install gcc-3.4 runs, but I still have no gcc, only gcc-3.4 -- and no make etc. build-essential looks like gcc4 -- what should I read?
[11:36] <_pip> paines: oh,it is likely not 2
[11:36] <uLDaRieL> Hi, anybody can give me a good guide about configuring a tv card?
[11:37] <paines> nexus10: installing the compiler 3.4 installs it. gcc is just a link on the default compiler
[11:37] <_pip> paines: I tried a command "sudo init 2" which did work .
[11:37] <paines> _pip: give in runlevel
[11:37] <paines> _pip: it will tell you in which you are
[11:37] <_pip> paines: did/t work
[11:38] <paines> _pip: what did you get as the answer
[11:38] <nexus10> paines: thanks. Do I need to create a symlink for gcc myself? And which make / ld etc should I use?
[11:39] <_pip> paines: I read the config text of inittab ,but it says 2~5 are multi model and 1 is single mode ,0 is halt mode ,6 is reboot mode
[11:39] <nexus10> paines: I just need enough to ./configure && make && sudo make install
[11:39] <paines> nexus10:for make there is only one. ld will be choosen by gcc. so you just have to make a link from gcc-3.4 to gcc use CC veriable
[11:40] <_pip> paines: so which will take me to xommand line mode
[11:40] <_pip> paines: so which will take me to command mode ?
[11:40] <nexus10> paines: excellent, ta. Should I create that symlink myself -- in /usr/bin? In /usr/local/bin? Where is customary on (K)ubuntu?
[11:41] <paines> _pip: well normally it is 2.iirc. seems like this was changed in ubuntu.
[11:42] <_pip> # /etc/init.d executes the S and K scripts upon change
[11:42] <_pip> # of runlevel.
[11:42] <_pip> #
[11:42] <_pip> # Runlevel 0 is halt.
[11:42] <_pip> # Runlevel 1 is single-user.
[11:42] <_pip> # Runlevels 2-5 are multi-user.
[11:42] <_pip> # Runlevel 6 is reboot.
[11:42] <paines> _pip: don't flood the channel mate
[11:42] <paines> nexus10: do you want 3.4 to be your default compielr
[11:42] <paines> compiler
[11:43] <_pip> paines: Do you know a command to change my system into command mode?
[11:43] <waiting> :OOO how many folk
[11:43] <waiting> hello :)
[11:44] <nexus10> paines: hmm... I don't really mind. I just need to compile a package, it needs gcc3 --- may need to compile something with gcc4 in future, but not an issue now. What's easiest?
[11:44] <paines> _pip: like i said. in the past init 2 would do what you want. now 2 is the default runlevel with X, and multi user and netwrok etc
[11:44] <paines> nexus10: so best is do CC="gcc-3.4" ./configure
[11:44] <_pip> paines: yes ,you are right, so it is a problem
[11:44] <paines> nexus10: that should do the job
[11:45] <paines> _pip: not really
[11:45] <nexus10> paines: ideal -- thanks. Will report back later.
[11:45] <paines> _pip: you could make runlvel e.g. the same a runlevel 2. and delete just X out from 2.
[11:45] <paines> _pip: you could make runlvel 5 e.g. the same a runlevel 2. and delete just X out from 2.
[11:46] <paines> you know what I mean
[11:46] <_pip> paines: Yes.
[11:46] <_pip> paines: dangerous?
[11:46] <paines> _pip: not really
[11:46] <waiting> I have a KDE issue: 1: the network setup in Startmenu->System Settings->Internet & Network->Network Settiings is too high for a x768 laptop display and the GUI offers no possibility to move the window so that the button "Administrator Mode" would be usable
[11:47] <waiting> I think that the form applies an unneccessary vertical fill policy for the panes displaying the settings
[11:48] <waiting> unfortunately this host is rather weakish so I cannot ... like ... recompile the package in a timely manner
[11:48] <waiting> is there anything that can be done about this?
[11:49] <arrinmurr> waiting: have you tried to move the window with alt + left mouse button?
[11:50] <waiting> arrinmurr: yeah, ok, that works, thank you :)
[11:50] <waiting> I still think it would be a good thing to fix because that way I can deploy puterz and let users set hostnames
[11:51] <waiting> the way it looks now, it is somewhat counterintuitive, I had to guess that there actually are buttons below viewport
[11:53] <paines> waiting: if it really is so like you discribed, than this is an kde issue. best is to report to them directly
[11:53] <waiting> paines: I see!
[11:56] <jaaroo> I'm running dapper drake and till some day my kde stopped (without any rememebered interaction (maybe dist-upgrade)) to traverse windows from all desktop upon pressing alt-tab and limited traversal to active desktop only. I went through configure panel but found nothing wrong. Can anyone give me some advices how to get that behaviour back?
[11:57] <arrinmurr> waiting: does it help if you use kcontrol? alt+f2 -> kcontrol
[11:59] <paines> jaaroo: i don' understand you question. you were using alt+tab and this stoppped working ?
[11:59] <waiting> arrinmurr: yes! there, the form arranges nicely
[12:00] <waiting> arrinmurr: ohh, that's very good! thank you :)
[12:00] <arrinmurr> waiting: the system settings thing in k-menu is a kubuntu addition. kcontrol is the "real thing" in kde
[12:01] <dipnlik> arrinmurr: i don't have kcontrol in my katapult :(
[12:01] <mepis_6> done the same with mepis 6.0
[12:01] <waiting> I thought so. on KDE level it is sorted to "playground" as for now
[12:01] <waiting> and has no contact info btw :S
[12:02] <dipnlik> gtg now, bye
[12:02] <_ita> im trying to do a mount on a samba share i can easily reach with konqueror smb://ma.ch.i.ne/share .. the mount -t smbfs //ma.ch.i.ne/share /mnt/foo -o credentials results in an error like "cannot mount block device" .. what the problem here ?!
[12:04] <mepis_6> I am trying to get opera for mepis 6
[12:04] <mepis_6> debian error's
[12:05] <mepis_6> even with static!
[12:05] <mepis_6> sad
[12:06] <mepis_6> back to tar.gz,...Hell its 2006!
[12:07] <waiting> a solid design shows its longevity ;)
[12:07] <mepis_6> guess so
[12:08] <waiting> I tar gzed firefox here, too
[12:09] <waiting> for they always write to userz on their website "download the latest version :D" and it's written so freindly that I assume userz to believe that
[12:09] <waiting> and then its tar gz :p
[12:15] <Martiini> Which should I use and why - Adept vs. Synaptic vs. kpackage vs. aptitude ... Any thoughts?
[12:17] <arrinmurr> Martiini: apt-get :)
[12:18] <waiting> Martiini: in GUI mode I go for synaptic
[12:18] <waiting> Martiini: it's pretty stable
[12:18] <Martiini> Why is there such a thing as adept in Kubuntu anyway? What about all other package mngmnt frontends?
[12:19] <waiting> Martiini: with same legit one can ask "why not"
[12:19] <Darkshin> W kubuntu!
[12:19] <Martiini> but they say that there is no point fixing things unless they dont work , so ...
[12:20] <Martiini> why such thing as adept now I wonder
[12:20] <Martiini> but it seems it works
[12:20] <waiting> Martiini: well all I can say from my short experiences with synaptic, adept and kynaptic is that for the moment I think synaptic is most reliable
[12:20] <Martiini> strange stuff
[12:20] <waiting> on the other hand, for example, I like the adept update wizard
[12:22] <Martiini> is "Full Upgrade" in adept same as apt-get dist-upgrade?
[12:23] <Martiini> Fetch Updates is apt-get update I guess
[12:28] <Darkshin> there's a downloadaccelerator for linux?
[12:28] <Darkshin> there's a download accelerator for linux?
[12:29] <Martiini> I guess if they've included Adept in Kubuntu , it must be better at handling dependencies or whatever - Lets trust Kubuntu team and use suggested tools then :)
[12:31] <Darkshin> O.o
[12:33] <m0ns00n> I've got a problem with the latest nvidia drivers and the latest breezy nvidia driver
[12:34] <m0ns00n> All opengl usage gives me "rainbow" colors (also renderaccel)
[12:34] <m0ns00n> Can this mean a faulty card?
[12:34] <m0ns00n> OR a faulty kernel?
[12:34] <m0ns00n> (I'm thinking about upgrading to dapper)
[12:35] <paines> m0ns00n: latest nvidia drivers in breezy of the latets nvidia drivers nvidia released ?
[12:37] <m0ns00n> paines: both
[12:37] <TheNightRider``> hey all :)
[12:37] <m0ns00n> paines: I get all the colours of the rainbow on all fonts rendered with renderaccel
[12:37] <m0ns00n> paines: And opengl shows up in blue/bright gradients, it looks all wrong
[12:37] <m0ns00n> =)
[12:38] <m0ns00n> paines: I'm running amd64
[12:38] <m0ns00n> paines: It's a new computer, so it could be a faulty card!
[12:38] <m0ns00n> paines: PCI-E
[12:39] <Martiini> anyone know what is "No URI handler implemented" when trying to play video with kaffeine through samba ?
[12:39] <m0ns00n> Martiini: That samba isn't supported by kaffeine
[12:39] <Martiini> thanks
[12:39] <m0ns00n> Martiini: Try mounting the disk with samba through fstab
[12:39] <paines> m0ns00n: strange.
[12:39] <m0ns00n> Martiini: Or make a mount script for sshfs
[12:40] <Martiini> getting too intricate for me :)
[12:40] <m0ns00n> Martiini: Linux is intricate =)
[12:40] <Martiini> yep :)
[12:40] <Martiini> I'll jsut copy the movie and watch it
[12:53] <RaRe> !sound
[12:53] <ubotu> it has been said that sound is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[12:57] <RaRe> Hello. i need help =( my kubuntu can't play from more than one audio source... i dont get the guides much because they are either for ubuntu or says that the latest alsa will solve it
[12:58] <paines> RaRe: this is a soudn driver issue. get a sound mixer like arts to do the job or a card which has "good" drivers to play multiple streams at once. like emu10k1 base sound cards
[12:59] <Martiini> There's a strange thing with my box since I bought it - All movement on the screen creates noice and buzzing in headphones (like in movies when something is downloading or whatever)
[12:59] <Martiini> creates noise I mean
[12:59] <RaRe> paines: i believe i already have arts, do i need to configure it or something?
[01:00] <Martiini> RaRe what soundcard you have?
[01:00] <paines> RaRe: correct. made you audio player amarok or what every and other media playing apps using arts
[01:00] <RaRe> Martiini: i dont know...
[01:01] <paines> RaRe: for amarok this is simple. by instaling amarok-arts and chossing it in aamrok configuration
[01:01] <RaRe> paines:  i tried at amarok under the engine > output plugin artsdsnk - i still get the same rpoblem
[01:02] <Martiini> RaRe what about fiddling with kmix?
[01:02] <RaRe> Martiini: how do i find out what's my sound card (it's built in)
[01:02] <miles> afternoon
[01:02] <RaRe> Martiini: i did, but i dont know what im doing
[01:02] <paines> RaRe: strange.
[01:02] <miles> anyone tell me where I can find a repo with kwlan please?
[01:02] <paines> RaRe: which apps did you use to play sounds at the same time. amarok and ?
[01:03] <Martiini> miles by googling for debian repos
[01:03] <RaRe> well a game - enemy territory and/or quake
[01:03] <RaRe> it's the same for flash i think
[01:03] <RaRe> let me test it.. give me a sec
[01:04] <paines> RaRe: well game won't use arts. thats the problem
[01:05] <Martiini> RaRe I dont know about command line , but you should see your card in System - KDE infocenter
[01:05] <RaRe> paines: i dont get sounds from flash on web aswell
[01:05] <paines> RaRe: flash has to be configured to use arts. did you do that ?
[01:06] <RaRe> not yet
[01:06] <RaRe> i think
[01:06] <RaRe> paines: would you happen to know where can i do this? it's not on the firefox options
[01:08] <paines> RaRe: i check, give me a sec
[01:08] <RaRe> Martiini: i've got an intel ac'97 audio controller something
[01:09] <Martiini> isnt it a flash sound problem then?
[01:09] <RaRe> Martiini: Intel 82801DB-ICH4 with AD1981A
[01:09] <Martiini> dunno ... paines is helping you
[01:09] <RaRe> ? well its a problem with everything in my system.. i can only play sound from one audio source
[01:10] <RaRe> it's like a first come first serve basis.. only the 1st program is able to play sounds, any subsequent programs just gets muted =(
[01:11] <Una^> Hi, I am having a problem with my xorg resolution, error is I810(0): Not using mode "1280x1024" (no mode of this name)
[01:11] <Una^> but there is a mode in my xorg.conf called this..
[01:11] <RaRe> ^^ thanx anyways Martiini
[01:11] <Martiini> :)
[01:12] <kameron> Riddell, you around?
[01:12] <RaRe> Una^: when/how did you get that error
[01:13] <Una^> RaRe: thats in my Xorg log sorry, I810(0):  Built-in mode "1024x768" which is what it always defaults too
[01:13] <miles> I tried using dpkg to install a .deb, however, its broken in the adept...
[01:13] <Una^> RaRe: Cant seem to use the native mode for the lcd
[01:13] <miles> anyway of removing this or fixing the deps easily please?
[01:14] <paines> RaRe: /etc/firefox/firefoxrc, FIREFOX_DSP="arts"
[01:14] <RaRe> Una^: oh, =/
[01:15] <RaRe> Una^: just guessing, is the mode 1280x1024 enabled in your xorg?
[01:15] <Martiini> miles did it say that the deb package is gonna break your kubuntu and remove lots of stuff?
[01:15] <miles> no
[01:16] <Martiini> doesnt adept resolve all dependencies?
[01:16] <Riddell> kameron: hi
[01:16] <mornfall> what
[01:16] <RaRe> paines. hmm, there's no firefox folder in my etc, anyways ill find my firefoxrc then. thanx
[01:16] <kameron> Riddell, hello. i wanted to talk with you about some things.. permission to /msg you?
[01:16] <mornfall> Martiini: why it wouldn't?
[01:16] <Martiini> Im advising miles
[01:16] <Riddell> kameron: ok
[01:17] <Una^> RaRe: http://pastebin.com/653232 thats my xorg.conf looks enabled to me :)
[01:17] <miles> Martiini: ok, removed it safely... now I either gonna have to install the deb or find a rep...
[01:17] <Martiini> miles has a deb with unresolved dependencies
[01:17] <miles> Martiini: I've upgraded to kde 3.5.2 btw
[01:17] <mornfall> he installed it with dpkg
[01:17] <mornfall> as he said
[01:17] <mornfall> dpkg is not adept
[01:17] <Martiini> sorry :)
[01:18] <Martiini> I know
[01:18] <Martiini> blush
[01:18] <miles> http://pastebin.com/653233
[01:18] <miles> thats the deps
[01:20] <Martiini> miles this kwlan wants to replace ubutnu packages with debian packages which causes the problem
[01:21] <Martiini> i dont know really
[01:22] <miles> no, i tried installing a earlier version number
[01:22] <Martiini> its really bad that aubuntu and debian packages arent completely compatible , anyway
[01:23] <miles> anyway of getting dpkg to handle the deps for me?
[01:23] <miles> and install this ubuntu kwlan
[01:23] <RaRe> Una^: line 47 has a hash sign, is that normal? doesn't that comment out that line
[01:24] <Martiini> miles are you using ONLY ubuntu repos and packages?
[01:24] <Martiini> I use aptitude for dependency resolving sometimes
[01:25] <miles> Martiini: I have a good sources list @ home, but im at the office :-\\
[01:25] <Martiini> yea, but , debian and ubuntu sources dont mix always
[01:25] <Una^> RaRe: yeah but its makes no difference even with that line left in
[01:26] <Martiini> you get complete ubuntu sources.list with install - just have to uncomment some repos
[01:26] <Una^> RaRe: out of ideas now, so is google :P
[01:27] <miles> I have
[01:27] <miles> just looking if aptitude can install this .deb
[01:28] <RaRe> Una^: :o well, have you tried reconfugiring xorg?
[01:28] <Una^> RaRe: yes I dont think its anything to do with my config.. more the i810 driver its self
[01:28] <RaRe> Una^: and btw, why's our xorg structured diff? (http://pastebin.com/653243)
[01:28] <Martiini> miles cant you substitute this kwlan with some other package?
[01:28] <miles> nope
[01:28] <miles> only one I see that does WPA
[01:28] <RaRe> Una^: ah, oh well good luck :D
[01:28] <Una^> RaRe: because its a custom config, cut out all the crap I didnt need :p
[01:29] <RaRe> Una^: ^^
[01:29] <miles> can aptitutde install a .deb file, or only from repos?
[01:31] <Martiini> miles sorry, dunno, man aptitude
[01:31] <miles> dont think it can :-\\
[01:32] <MetaMorfoziS> ismeros vagy miles:D
[01:32] <miles> bbiab, lunch
[01:32] <pagey_> mmm get errors when installing opera in mepis/kubunto 6.0
[01:33] <MetaMorfoziS> dapper is out?
[01:33] <MetaMorfoziS> or when does it comes?
[01:33] <pagey_> its out
[01:33] <MetaMorfoziS> the stable?
[01:33] <MetaMorfoziS> woho
[01:33] <pagey_> no
[01:33] <MetaMorfoziS> or?
[01:33] <pagey_> Beta
[01:34] <MetaMorfoziS> the stable, whan come?
[01:34] <MetaMorfoziS> e
[01:34] <pagey_> like mepis 6.0 better
[01:34] <MetaMorfoziS> ?
[01:34] <pagey_> very similar now
[01:34] <MetaMorfoziS> okay, but dapper stable when goes out?
[01:34] <pagey_> pass
[01:35] <MetaMorfoziS> :(
[01:35] <pagey_> have read in the next two weeks
[01:36] <RaRe> paines: can't find the firefoxrc..
[01:36] <MetaMorfoziS> ho
[01:36] <MetaMorfoziS> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseSchedule
[01:38] <RaRe> paines: oh w8 nvm found it
[01:40] <RaRe> still no sound.. sigh, anyways thanx paines
[01:42] <paines> RaRe: did you restart firefox ?
[01:42] <RaRe> yea
[01:42] <paines> RaRe: damn
[01:44] <RaRe> =( i guess im left with blaming my onboard soundcard o.o
[01:45] <nico8481> hi
[01:45] <paines> RaRe: yes. sad but true. onboard sound is really bad. get a emu10k1 based card like sb live! i have mine no for 6 years and it just rocks
[01:46] <paines> plays 32 streams parallel
[01:49] <RaRe> paines: ooohh, ill go read up on emu10k1
[01:52] <Martiini> I've got soundblaseter card and it works in linux as well as in win :)
[01:57] <TheNightRider``> hey guys, know anywhere i can find an irc bot?
[01:57] <TheNightRider``> :)
[01:58] <paines> TheNightRider``: apt-get install eggdrop
[01:58] <TheNightRider``> hmm
[01:58] <TheNightRider``> thanks :)
[01:58] <TheNightRider``> you guys rock! :D
[02:00] <TheNightRider``> hmm okay its installed
[02:00] <TheNightRider``> how can i run it /
[02:00] <TheNightRider``> ?
[02:02] <VGhost> I've installed kubuntu 5.10
[02:02] <VGhost> and I have some problems with it
[02:03] <VGhost> when I try to configure my network devices(ethernet and wireless cards)
[02:03] <TheNightRider``> whats the problem about?
[02:04] <VGhost> I get prompted for my password on the settings tab, and when I type my password
[02:04] <VGhost> nothing happens
[02:04] <TheNightRider``> well
[02:04] <TheNightRider``> press connect
[02:04] <TheNightRider``> lol
[02:05] <VGhost> I am looking for the manual configuration
[02:05] <VGhost> through the .conf files
[02:05] <TheNightRider``> good luck then :)
[02:05] <VGhost> I think I should edit the /etc/network/interfaces file
[02:05] <VGhost> but I am not sure
[02:06] <VGhost> does anyone know which file I should edit?
[02:09] <_karl> ho
[02:09] <mhterres> morning
[02:10] <jarlath> Do I need evms and lvm services? I have one primary partition and one logical one (and /tmp is mounted seperately I think).
[02:16] <zmo> VGhost: you're right, you should edit /etc/network interfaces
[02:17] <VGhost> ok thanks
[02:19] <TheNightRider``> uhh
[02:19] <Carter> Hi
[02:19] <TheNightRider``> what was the copy command in konsole?
[02:21] <mhterres> cp
[02:21] <TheNightRider``> thanks :)
[02:22] <miles> ok back
[02:22] <miles> this thing is ="!(ng me off now
[02:23] <VGhost> I guess adding something like auto eth0  ath0
[02:23] <VGhost> should do the job
[02:26] <miles> it's annoying that there is now WPA support in the normal wifi conf tools on kubuntu :-(
[02:28] <jarlath> miles, is that just for dapper or breezy too?
[02:28] <miles> im on breezy
[02:28] <jarlath> ok
[02:29] <jarlath> I find wireless a pain with kubuntu. Its fine as long as you dont want to change networks.
[02:29] <miles> gonna try compile it from source
[02:29] <miles> kwlan that is
[02:29] <jarlath> miles; gave up on kwifimanager?
[02:30] <vge> KnetworkManager in dapper looks like it could handle wpa
[02:30] <miles> jarlath: no wpa support
[02:31] <jarlath> miles; I saw it in the config. You mean it doesnt work?
[02:31] <miles> jarlath: I see no wpa in kwifimanager on wep
[02:32] <jarlath> give me a mo...
[02:34] <jarlath> You must be right. I'm  mixing up my apps. Sorry!
[02:34] <miles> if I could find away of get the kwlan .deb (which is for ubunutu) installed, i'd be laughing
[02:38] <miles> seems no way of installing a .deb via dpkg and have it resolve the deps for you :-\\
[02:39] <miles> bbib
[02:40] <jarlath> The only other app I've tried is kwavecontrol (in the repos), but it didnt work for me.
[02:47] <v3ctor> why does /etc/libao.conf default to esd on kubuntu?
[02:50] <TheNightRider``> how can i write in /usr/share/eggdrop ?
[02:51] <TheNightRider``> it says permission denied
[02:51] <mangusta> sudo
[02:51] <TheNightRider``> sudo cp ?
[02:52] <mangusta> sudo mena super user do
[02:52] <mangusta> sudo means super user do
[02:52] <TheNightRider``> oh k
[02:52] <TheNightRider``> :)
[02:52] <mangusta> so, if you sudo cp foo bar
[02:53] <fjellrev1> Anyone know how I could mount my Creative Zen Touch so I can get a path for it? only way I manage to connect to it is through gnomad2 and it doesnt tell me much where the mp3 player is located
[02:59] <TheNightRider``> hmm
[02:59] <TheNightRider``> anyone know anything about eggdrop?
[03:01] <dipnlik> TheNightRider``: i dropped eggs on physics' classes >_<
[03:02] <TheNightRider``> lol
[03:02] <TheNightRider``> no seriously.. ? :)
[03:04] <dipnlik> TheNightRider``: i'm serious. we made some marks on the eggs' height in some time intervals, then calculated some things with some crappy physics very long precisions and approximations. but it was some years ago
[03:04] <dipnlik> other than these, no eggdrop for me
[03:04] <TheNightRider``> lol
[03:04] <TheNightRider``> i meant the program
[03:04] <TheNightRider``> eggdrop
[03:04] <TheNightRider``> an irc bot :)
[03:05] <dipnlik> ubotu: eggdrop
[03:05] <ubotu> dipnlik: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:06] <TheNightRider``> heh
[03:06] <TheNightRider``> i already tried the bot :)
[03:24] <gnumdk> kbookmarknotifier.h seems to be missing from dapper kdelibs packages :(
[03:32] <foobar> hi there
[03:32] <foobar> I want to add some files to a install cd (kubuntu dapper)
[03:32] <foobar> is there a program for such things?
[03:32] <foobar> or a howto?
[03:34] <robotgeek> foobar: it's pretty complicated, but there's a cd customization howto on the ubuntu wiki
[03:35] <foobar> hmm, I dont want to add programs or things, just something like an additonal folder with some textfiles, backups
[03:35] <foobar> but I'll see - thanks
[03:48] <Martiini> Where do I find startup log?
[03:51] <foobar> Martiini: look in /var/log
[04:01] <Cin> Is KOffice by any chance less buggy than Open Office?
[04:03] <Cin> Buggy as in, I can't do a couple minute's work without it closing and recovering my work, and randomly losing images on the way.
[04:08] <paines> Cin: depends on what you are doing. openoffice and koffice work equaly good for me
[04:09] <Cin> I think I'll stick w/ KOffice.
[04:10] <Cin> Hm. KOffice needs some recognition rather than recall.
[04:10] <Cin> I keep having to navigate to the same pictures folder on my USB drive.
[04:11] <Cin> Wouldn't mind getting hold of the source.
[04:12] <Cin> Better to *do* that to complain.
[04:34] <kuba> hi all
[04:34] <kuba> frank23: you here?
[04:37] <kuba> frank23: Dapper runs fine from the LiveCD
[04:37] <kuba> I'm killing the kernel atm - my way :P
[04:40] <jjesse> what is a good news group reader program for kubuntu?
[04:47] <RaRe> !umask
[04:47] <ubotu> RaRe: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:47] <RaRe> I juggle geese!
[04:47] <RaRe> !permissions
[04:47] <ubotu> permissions are explained here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FilePermissions  - The easiest way to work with permissions is to sudo chmod {options} filename.  Also, try "man chmod", "man chown", and "man chgrp" from the console.
[04:48] <RaRe> !ntfs
[04:48] <ubotu> rumour has it, ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[04:49] <kuba> Does anyone know what packets are installed when I install a new linux-image?
[04:50] <Bambino> paines, are you here?
[04:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> kuba: which packages?
[04:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> linux kernel and some modules (drivers and whatnot)
[04:50] <jjesse> is there a kde newsgroup reader?
[04:51] <kuba> Kamping_Kaiser: yeah, but what packages exactly? I need to remove them
[04:52] <kuba> Kamping_Kaiser: reinstall I meant
[04:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> kuba: your running Breezy?
[04:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> 2.6.12-10 is the latest kernel
[04:54] <kuba> Kamping_Kaiser: yeah, and I've installed 2.6.15b which crashed my system
[04:54] <kuba> now I'm fighting to get it back
[04:54] <kuba> Kamping_Kaiser: I mean the 2.6.15-20 version (Dapper repository)
[04:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> ah right
[04:55] <kuba> Kamping_Kaiser: It installed some additional stuff and now I can't boot 2.6.12......
[04:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> hm. strange
[04:55] <kuba> so I'm hoping to downgrade those things
[04:55] <kuba> ya
[04:55] <kuba> liveCD Dapper works fine
[04:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> kuba: have you tried running 'apt-get -f install'?
[04:56] <kuba> Kamping_Kaiser: nope, what's that?
[04:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> kuba: it tries to fix your install for you
[04:56] <kuba> oh I see
[04:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> also you could try `dpkg --configure -a` to make sure evertying is setup right
[04:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi me2win
[04:57] <kuba> Kamping_Kaiser: Should I try that with Breeze or Dapper repositories?
[04:57] <me2win> sup Kamping_Kaiser
[04:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> kuba: do you want to run Breezy or dapper?
[04:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> me2win: oh, just putting off work - you?
[04:58] <kuba> Well, I have Breezy but I'd prefer Dapper
[04:58] <me2win> Kamping_Kaiser: same :D
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[04:58] <me2win> lol
[04:58] <kuba> Kamping_Kaiser: I just need that bloody new kernel
[04:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> kuba: then change your sources.list to dapper, and run `suod apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo apt-get -f install && sudo dpkg --configure -a`
[04:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> *sudo
[04:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> kuba: then try `sudo apt-get install $kernelThatYouNeedInstalledHere`
[04:59] <kuba> Kamping_Kaiser: yeah, that's  how I fried the system
[05:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> kuba: lol. sounds like you want the first line
[05:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> make sure all lines say dapper
[05:00] <kuba> Remove Breeze ones?
[05:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> kuba: yeh. only have dapper available
[05:01] <kuba> Kamping_Kaiser: I also have Dapper install/live CD if it helps?
[05:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> kuba: um. if you can i recomend just updating off the net
[05:02] <kuba> Kamping_Kaiser: ok
[05:02] <jonathan_> hi guys ....i have a weird question but i hope someone here is smarter than me...
[05:02] <jonathan_> hi, I'm supposed to be writing a presentation on synchronous vs. asynchronous encryption. I'm running into some blocks...would anyone care to help me with this?
[05:02] <jonathan_> it's not a linux question but people have helped before and i'm about to freak out
[05:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> jonathan_: i don't think someone knowing that will be "smarter" then you, just "freakier"
[05:03] <kuba> Kamping_Kaiser: it's progressing
[05:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> kuba:  good luck :)
[05:03] <kuba> Kamping_Kaiser: thanks
[05:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> np
[05:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> jonathan_: i would sugest you try -ooftopic, but it seems quiet over there right now
[05:04] <kuba> Kamping_Kaiser: afterwards I reboot or what?
[05:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> kuba: you let it install the pacakges and reboot, yes
[05:04] <jonathan_> lol....well, i was a 3rd wheel in a project....they did theirs and just told me to figure it out...
[05:04] <edulix> hello!
[05:05] <kuba> Kamping_Kaiser: I have an ATi card - I think I've read something about the need to reinstall the drives after an update. That true?
[05:05] <edulix> it's me or blogger page for creating new entries is buggy in konqueror?
[05:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> kuba: what card?
[05:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi edulix
[05:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> jonathan_: ouch ;). try offtopic.
[05:05] <kuba> Kamping_Kaiser: Radeon 9500 something
[05:05] <kuba> using
[05:05] <kuba> fldx
[05:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> kuba: yeh, you will need to reinstall the driver
[05:06] <kuba> flgrx
[05:06] <kuba> Kamping_Kaiser: just after that reconfigure?
[05:06] <Zico|> Hello i have installed build-essentials now, but when im trying to build a file with make, ive got /lib/modules/2.6xxx/build No suc file or directory
[05:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> kuba: after you run those commands. no point trying to install it on a broken system
[05:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> edulix: check on launchpad - it might be konqueror or the website is written poorly
[05:07] <kuba> Zico|: did you install the needed libraries?
[05:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> Zico|: when you find out let me know - i got that as well ;)
[05:07] <Zico|> kuba: didnt it do it automaticilly?
[05:07] <Zico|> because it si requried?
[05:07] <Zico|> and which libareis are that?
[05:08] <kuba> Zico|: when I installed build-essentials I still neded the C/C++ libraries..
[05:08] <kuba> libc or something?
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[05:09] <me2win> kuba: he didn make enough chicken! :D
[05:09] <kuba> :D
[05:09] <me2win> You might not get that unless you live int he US
[05:09] <me2win> lol
[05:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> that explains it ;)
[05:09] <me2win> lol
[05:09] <kuba> !package test
[05:09] <ubotu> kuba: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:10] <kuba> !package libc
[05:10] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, kuba
[05:10] <kuba> how to use this?
[05:10] <kuba> !package mc
[05:10] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, kuba
[05:10] <me2win> Kamping_Kaiser: Colonel Sanders is an icon/mascot for a well known food chain called "KFC" or "Kentucky Fried Chicken"
[05:10] <gourdin> hi there
[05:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> kuba dotn spam the bot please :)
[05:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> gourdin: gday
[05:11] <kuba> Kamping_Kaiser: sure, sure :)
[05:11] <kuba> Kamping_Kaiser: so how to use it?
[05:11] <kuba> hi gourdin
[05:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> the bot?
[05:11] <kuba> no...the chicken... :D
[05:11] <gourdin> I got an ethernet device "marvell technologie" 10/100 on my laptop, daper drake install doesn't detect it
[05:11] <gourdin> how can I enable it ?
[05:11] <gourdin> (I don't have internet access on it;)
[05:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> gourdin: as in 'it wont show up in lspci'?
[05:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> kuba: o_0 stick it in your mouth
[05:12] <gourdin> Kamping_Kaiser: it is in the lspci
[05:13] <gourdin> (it the last dapper drake iso instal (rc6?)
[05:13] <gourdin> I'm new to kubuntu
[05:13] <Kamping_Kaiser> gourdin: then go into your network settings thingy and enable it
[05:13] <Kamping_Kaiser> i don't use Kubuntu at all, so i don't know what it's called ;)
[05:13] <gourdin> Kamping_Kaiser: ok
[05:13] <Kamping_Kaiser> gourdin: i can walk you through it in a terminal though
[05:14] <gourdin> Kamping_Kaiser: I'm searching the module I have to load
[05:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> load?
[05:15] <gourdin> add
[05:15] <kuba> Kamping_Kaiser: ;) Damn, I knew I was doing it wrong...
[05:15] <JakubS> is there way to install package from disk with dependencies?
[05:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> gourdin: it shows up in lspci though, so why load modules?
[05:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> JakubS:install the packages, then 'apt-get -f install`
[05:16] <JakubS> didn't think of that :-)
[05:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[05:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> apt-get >*
[05:16] <gourdin> Kamping_Kaiser: right
[05:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> kuba: :D
[05:16] <kuba> OK, Kamping_Kaiser thanks for help, This'll take a while so I'll be back later. Take care :)
[05:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> later mate
[05:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> i'm on for the next hour or so
[05:17] <gourdin> ifconfig eth0 up
[05:17] <gourdin> dhclient eth0
[05:17] <gourdin> nice
[05:17] <gourdin> =)
[05:17] <gourdin> weird that kubuntu install doesn't use it
[05:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> gourdin: afaik it does it if it's connected to a network during install
[05:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[05:18] <gourdin> (it was)
[05:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> that's strange :)
[05:19] <Kamping_Kaiser> on an ubuntu install that's what happens - you even get a thying during install 'couldnt configure with DHCP, configer by hand?'
[05:19] <gourdin> Kamping_Kaiser: in install kubuntu says that no netwrok device was found
[05:20] <panzi> hi
[05:20] <gourdin> it appeard in lspci on the second console
[05:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> gourdin: hm.
[05:20] <panzi> i made a graphics driver update (compiled the newest original NVIDIA drivers)
[05:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi panzi
[05:20] <panzi> i had some problems with it
[05:20] <panzi> well most of them where my fault
[05:20] <panzi> i installt the drivers without uninstalling the apt-gettet nvidia drivers
[05:21] <panzi> but now i solved this problems
[05:21] <panzi> but now i only have ONE tty (one shell login), not the usual 6
[05:21] <panzi> and there is no /dev/fb0
[05:21] <panzi> what could be the reason?
[05:21] <panzi> x works fine now
[05:22] <panzi> and nexuiz finally runs smooth
[05:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> panzi: i have heard of trhe tty issue, i don't know how to fix it.
[05:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> fb0 is (i asume) the framebuffer - it may not be compiledint your kernel or x may not  e configure ed to use it
[05:23] <panzi> but what causes this issue? is it the nvidia driver?
[05:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> i asume so.
[05:24] <panzi> whatever, i want more shell logins and i whant them in 1024x768-60. any idea how i can get it?
[05:25] <Kamping_Kaiser> no. i don't know how to fix the issue. i suspect it's come up on the ubuntu forums, and probably Kubuntu ones as well
[05:27] <nexus10> paines: thanks for your help earlier; symlinking gcc and g++ to gcc-3.4 and g++-3.4 respectively in /usr/local/bin/ did the trick.
[05:28] <nexus10> Anyone here familiar with VNC / tightvnc? I need to see the same desktop a client is using, cannot get tightvnc to work. Any suggestions?
[05:29] <elijahlofgren> !universe
[05:29] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[05:30] <nexus10> re VNC hassles -- using Kubuntu breezy. If I could use Krdc that would be fine.
[05:35] <elijahlofgren> nexus10: Are you using VNC on only a LAN?
[05:35] <nexus10> elijahlofgren: nope - across the net --- but security not an issue on this box
[05:37] <elijahlofgren> nexus10: Ok, if it was over just a LAN I would have suggested just using remote X by running "X -query hostname", but I don't think that would work well over the net because I think it's high bandwidth.
[05:38] <nexus10> elijahlofgren: Ok. I have freenx working fine, but that gives me a new login, I want to see what my client is seeing....
[05:39] <elijahlofgren> nexus10: Ok, I can't help you there.
[05:39] <zmo> nexus10: k/ubuntu comes with vino server
[05:39] <nexus10> elijahlofgren: Thanks anyway. I have seen this done on a gnome/debian machine using tightvnc and a java applet so I can see it in a browser - great
[05:40] <nexus10> elijahlofgren: will vino let several of us see the same screen?
[05:40] <zmo> nexus10: yes
[05:41] <zmo> nexus10: with a vnc client connecting on port 5900/tcp
[05:41] <nexus10> elijahlofgren: excellent, googling now. Thanks :-)
[05:41] <zmo> yw :)
[05:42] <elijahlofgren> zmo: LOL, I think nexus10 got us mixed up. ;)
[05:43] <nexus10> zmo: , elijahlofgren : right! Thanks to both of you.
[05:43] <kuba> Kamping_Kaiser: I'm back for a sec. After all this I nee to do: 'apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx' right?
[05:43] <elijahlofgren> nexus10: You're welcome. Always glad to help.
[05:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> kuba: does your system work yet?
[05:43] <zmo> nexus10: same here :-)
[05:44] <nexus10> :-)
[05:44] <uniq> nexus10: try krfb and krdc. that's the kde remote desktop software. vino is gnome-ish.
[05:44] <nexus10> thanks uniq
[05:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> if it works, then you can run that. or enable the restricted repository and do `apt-cache search fglrx` and look at what comes up
[05:46] <kuba> Kamping_Kaiser: nah, I'm still downloading it. What restricted repository?
[05:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> kuba: ubuntu has a repository called restricted, which has the nvidia and ati drivers in it
[05:47] <kuba> oh
[05:48] <kuba> Kamping_Kaiser: I have those enabled...
[05:48] <kuba> is that bad?
[05:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> no
[05:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> it menas you can apt-get the drivers with little fuss
[05:50] <kuba> Kamping_Kaiser: cool, hope this fixes  my system. If not I'll have to do a full reinstall :/
[05:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> kuba: make sure it's working before complicating issues with drivers!
[05:51] <kuba> Kamping_Kaiser: so restart before driver instalation?
[05:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> yes. preferably
[05:52] <kuba> well, what'll happen if I restart with old/bad drivers? :)
[05:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> the world wiill blow up :)
[05:55] <kuba> Kamping_Kaiser: I only care about me kernel :P
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[05:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> you might be reinstalling
[05:56] <kuba> Kamping_Kaiser: btw, how to copy to a fat32 partition without coping symbolics?
[05:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> symbolics? links?
[05:56] <kuba> yes
[05:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> sym links
[05:57] <kuba> yesm that
[05:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> IIRC cp has a switch *checks*
[05:57] <Kamping_Kaiser>        -P, --no-dereference
[05:57] <Kamping_Kaiser>               never follow symbolic links
[05:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> cp -RP /from/here /mnt/windowsfat32/partition
[05:59] <kuba> damn, why doesn't cp show some 'status' by default :P
[05:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> UNIX tools don't
[05:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> try with -v as well
[05:59] <kuba> OK, it's working, just showing a lot of errors but it's working... That'll do :)
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[06:00] <kuba> 1h30m\ downloading left :/
[06:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> feel like proof reading some stuff for me? I'm trying to get EasyUbuntu's docs into some sort of usefull state again
[06:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> heh
[06:01] <kuba> Kamping_Kaiser: sure, though just a bit cause I have some work to do. Yet work can wait :P
[06:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> :P
[06:01] <kuba> good idea
[06:01] <kuba> it's always easier that way
[06:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> they are at http://www.itshare.org.au/eudocs
[06:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> yeh. thing is the files are readme's, so they have to be text viewable as well
[06:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> so that would leave me updating 2 files :/
[06:02] <kuba> Kamping_Kaiser: make XML then
[06:02] <kuba> and then a choice: HTML or TXT
[06:03] <kuba> txt would just show the contents from the tags, HTML would parse it into a nice format
[06:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> good idea. xml
[06:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> btw. layout is crap. in the files... i'm working on it ;)
[06:04] <kuba> Kamping_Kaiser: one thing about txt is that it's now wrapped
[06:05] <kuba> but that's just a detail
[06:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> hm.
[06:05] <kuba> ;)
[06:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> ;)
[06:06] <kuba> good idea this Easy Ubuntu
[06:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> we hope so :)
[06:07] <kuba> ;)
[06:08] <kuba> Xubuntu?
[06:09] <kuba> I'm not up to date I think
[06:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> xfce ubuntu
[06:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> it's been under development since Breezy came out
[06:10] <Bambino> is it possible for me to change boot splash?
[06:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> Bambino: yes... in theory
[06:11] <Bambino> Kamping_Kaiser, Theory...?
[06:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> kuba: heh. i'm covering my legal backside - i nearly had a run in with the law recently
[06:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> Bambino: i don't know how, but it can be done
[06:11] <kuba> Kamping_Kaiser: ya, I understand, I had some myself ;)
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[06:13] <gourdin> existe t il des paquets officiels pour xserver-xgl ?
[06:13] <gourdin> quel howto conseillez vous d'utiliser pour installer xgl sur kubuntu ?
[06:13] <Kamping_Kaiser> English here, thanks mate
[06:13] <gourdin> oops
[06:13] <gourdin> is there official xserver-xgl debs ?
[06:14] <kuba> Kamping_Kaiser: It's fine. I've read the README file. I just would like to point out, that make thingies might be a good idea. So that people can actually MAKE without all this fuss before
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[06:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> gourdin: for dapper
[06:14] <gourdin> Kamping_Kaiser: yes
[06:14] <gourdin> am using dapper
[06:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> gourdin: yes, there are. for dapper
[06:14] <gourdin> ok
[06:14] <panzi> damn
[06:14] <gourdin> an official howto ?
[06:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> !xgl
[06:14] <panzi> i dont know how to search google
[06:14] <kuba> Kamping_Kaiser: apart from that I not only like it, I'm getting it :P
[06:14] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[06:14] <panzi> i cant find anything
[06:14] <gourdin> =)
[06:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> kuba: thingies?
[06:14] <gourdin> thx
[06:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> kuba: cool :)
[06:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> get it form my site, not the offical one ;)
[06:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> the offical one is way out of dat :/
[06:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> *date
[06:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> *the offical ones archvie file is way out of date
[06:15] <jpetso> hello! is there any howto on how to switch to Kubuntu Dapper (coming from Breezy)?
[06:16] <kuba> Kamping_Kaiser: I mean make, build essentials and so forth
[06:16] <kuba> Kamping_Kaiser: OK, will do
[06:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> kuba: thoes are in main, so we wont bother with them.
[06:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> we want to aid setup - not promate lazynes :D
[06:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> !upgrade
[06:16] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade.  Upgrading to dapper (remember it may break). Please test the dist-upgrader -> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html.
[06:17] <kuba> oh, dapper upgrade :>
[06:17] <kuba> those readmes are on your site?
[06:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> kuba: hm. actualy the tar isnt ther. it's at http://users.on.net/~goetz/EasyUbuntu/current.tar.bz2
[06:19] <kuba> Kamping_Kaiser: downloaded
[06:19] <kuba> Kamping_Kaiser: how does this dist-upgrade work? Does is do the thing I'm just doing?
[06:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> kuba: and you will notice the docs in there arnt so great as mine ;) . untill they become 'stable' the docs are just external bits
[06:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> kuba: yes
[06:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> it's exactly what your doing
[06:20] <jpetso> ok, thanks for the links
[06:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> kuba: in about a week we hope to have a version that detects your version and can load gtk/qt gui as needed
[06:22] <kuba> Kamping_Kaiser: correct me if I'm wrong. GTK - Gnome, QT - KDE?
[06:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> correct
[06:22] <kuba> I'm not very familiar with linux :P
[06:22] <kuba> good
[06:22] <kuba> and Xgl is something like that?
[06:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> nm. your going to take me over soon eough :)
[06:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> xgl is an extra layer on top of x, but below qt/gtk
[06:23] <kuba> I see.
[06:23] <kuba> I've tested it today
[06:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> like it?
[06:23] <Zico|> im giving up
[06:23] <kuba> nifty yet useless :)
[06:23] <Zico|> kuba: all libraries were innstalled
[06:24] <Zico|> but make still doesent work
[06:24] <kuba> Zico|: what's that error again?
[06:25] <Zico|> Hello i have installed build-essentials now, but when im trying to build a file with make, ive got /lib/modules/2.6xxx/build No suc file or directory
[06:25] <Zico|> is the error
[06:25] <kuba> gimme a sec
[06:26] <Zico|> k
[06:26] <kuba> well, I don't have a build directory in there either...
[06:27] <kuba> what're you making?
[06:27] <Zico|> my network driver
[06:28] <kuba> Kamping_Kaiser: sorry, I missed your question. yeah, it's nice
[06:28] <kuba> Zico|: ever done in before?
[06:29] <Zico|> kuba: first time im installing ubuntu
[06:29] <Zico|> :P
[06:29] <kuba> Zico|: what card is that?
[06:30] <Zico|> Asus wl-167g usb dongle
[06:32] <Zico|> http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/wiki/index.php/Downloads
[06:32] <Zico|> here is the driver
[06:33] <kuba> Zico|: I can't see 167 on the list there...
[06:33] <jpetso> regarding my Breezy -> Dapper switch: sorry for not using the auto-updater, but i have to try it manually at least one time
[06:34] <Zico|> kuba: Latest BETA rt2570 driver: v1.1.0-b1
[06:34] <Zico|> that driver
[06:34] <jpetso> i replaced the "breezy" strings in sources.list with "dapper" and did an apt-get update
[06:34] <kuba> jpetso: and? :)
[06:35] <jpetso> and now, adept wants to upgrade most of my system, but uninstall virtually all kde packages
[06:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> jpetso: no need to feel sorry !
[06:35] <jpetso> ...which is bad
[06:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> jpetso: does it install new ones?
[06:35] <kuba> yes it does, at least here :)
[06:35] <jpetso> it would say "upgrade" instead of "remove", no?
[06:35] <jpetso> or do all the kde packages have new names, like a common prefix?
[06:36] <Zico|> kuba: did it work for you?
[06:36] <kuba> Zico|: wait, Im getting it
[06:36] <Zico|> k
[06:36] <jpetso> maybe I should disable some more of the repositories
[06:37] <harleypig> any pointers on making a dual monitor setup work?  I've got a laptop screen and a dvi-out that is cloned right now.
[06:37] <harleypig> I can't seem to find a howto for this.
[06:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> i just searched the forums IIRC and copied off someone on there. i have an nvidia, it went like a tream (this is dual head video, not laptop stuff)
[06:39] <kuba> Zico|: make works for you? or just make install?
[06:39] <Zico|> make doesent work forme
[06:39] <Zico|> i havent tried make install
[06:39] <kuba> that's good
[06:40] <kuba> but I seem to write make and get an instant error :)
[06:40] <kuba> exactly the one you get
[06:40] <Zico|> :P
[06:40] <Zico|> thx for the information
[06:40] <jpetso> ...it's the same with only http://at.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu as repository, all my KDE apps are to be removed :/
[06:40] <kuba> Zico|: gimme a sec
[06:40] <jpetso> any idea?
[06:40] <Zico|> k
[06:41] <jpetso> while all the others would be upgraded like they should
[06:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> can you use apt get -f install to check for broken packages
[06:44] <kuba> Zico|: wait, I have an idea
[06:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> you will need konsole, and have to close adept
[06:44] <Zico|> oh?
[06:44] <jpetso> Kamping_Kaiser: oh, cool
[06:44] <kuba> Kamping_Kaiser:  how to 'read' a symlink?
[06:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> kuba: read? you generaly 'follow'
[06:45] <kuba> Kamping_Kaiser: lol, sorry, I managed :)
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[06:46] <kuba> Kamping_Kaiser: how to make a symlink? :)))
[06:46] <jpetso> Kamping_Kaiser: apt-get -f install retrieves 0 packages
[06:46] <jpetso> kuba: ln -s target symlinkname
[06:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> kuba: ln -s /real/directory /fake/directory
[06:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> jpetso: ok. now run `sudo apt-get update` then `sudo apt-get dist-upgrade` in the terminal
[06:47] <jpetso> Kamping_Kaiser: ah, i'm not sure if dist-upgrade is a good idea when all my kde programs are gone afterwards
[06:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> jpetso: can you pastebin your sources.list for us?
[06:48] <jpetso> Kamping_Kaiser: just two lines, should suffice for direct posting
[06:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> sure
[06:48] <jpetso> deb http://at.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted universe multiverse
[06:48] <jpetso> deb-src http://at.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted universe multiverse
[06:49] <jpetso> i commented out the other ones and did an apt-get update
[06:49] <kuba> '../../../usr/src/linux-2.4.20-30.9' <- this is not under ubuntu - why?
[06:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> that's a fine sources.list... wondre where our spanner in the works is
[06:49] <jpetso> :)
[06:50] <kuba> I know that's an old kernel
[06:50] <kuba> but ubuntu doesn't seem to have that
[06:50] <kuba> Zico| needs that for his compiling :)
[06:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> kuba: it's an old kernel
[06:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> *no* ubuntu has used a 2.4 kernel
[06:51] <kuba> Kamping_Kaiser: yes I know. That's not the point
[06:51] <kuba> Kamping_Kaiser: I need a directory with the kernel
[06:51] <kuba> like this:
[06:51] <_andrew> Hello everybody.
[06:52] <Zico|> kuba: dont need anymore
[06:52] <kuba> Zico|: no?
[06:52] <Zico|> i heard that hte cvs verision is working:D
[06:52] <Zico|> but thx for all the help:D
[06:52] <kuba> Zico|: oh, cool then, but I thinks this is Ubuntu specific
[06:52] <kuba> redhat's cool with it
[06:52] <kuba> Kamping_Kaiser: never mind then :)
[06:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi _Andrew
[06:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[06:54] <kuba> OK, good luck Zico|. I'm away now for ~26minutes. Then my kUbuntu dies :)
[06:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> hehe.
[06:54] <_andrew> Kamping_Kaiser: hello. -- Does anyone know how to identify process that are tied to my cdrom-- it won't eject because it's busy and I was going to manually start killing anything that was talking to it.
[06:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> lsof
[06:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> lsof |grep media
[06:56] <_andrew> Kamping_Kaiser: Thank you!
[06:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> np
[06:56] <laszlok> _andrew: fuser /dev/cdrom (maybe /dev/hdc) will give you the process id numbers
[06:57] <XVampireX> Hi, how do I install ktoon, does anyone know?
[06:58] <bsac> l
[06:59] <Zico|> kuba: like u said
[06:59] <Zico|> its ubuntu only problem
[06:59] <Zico|> because the cvs verision didnt work either
[06:59] <Zico|> same error
[06:59] <bsac> is anyone here running rails on ubuntu?
[07:00] <harleypig> where can I find nvidia-xconfig for kubuntu?
[07:02] <Amozz> apt-get install nvidia-settings
[07:02] <laszlok> harleypig: do you mean nvidia-glx-config?
[07:02] <harleypig> It's installed but I can't find nvidia-xconfig
[07:03] <harleypig> laszlok: possibly, but what I'm readding suggests an interactive dialog somehow, or at least the ability to setup a dual head enviornemt.
[07:04] <laszlok> harleypig: nvidia-glx-config is something different then
[07:05] <Vampis> nvidia-glx-config is a part of the nvidia-glx package
[07:09] <harleypig> Vampis: right, and that's installed, but it doesn't give me an opportunity to select twinview or anything.
[07:11] <cabajgtr> I cant get into my mouse settings, when I click on mouse in control center, CC crashes
[07:11] <cabajgtr> any ideas?
[07:11] <Vampis> harleypig: configure manual? ;)
[07:11] <Vampis> GUI isnt everything
[07:12] <Vampis> manualy *
[07:13] <_adam> witam
[07:13] <_adam> ktos mowi po polsku?
[07:13] <kuba> :)
[07:13] <_adam> to chyba oznacza ze tak
[07:13] <_adam> ciesze sie
[07:14] <kuba> ale nie wolno
[07:14] <_adam> jak to?
[07:14] <kuba> English only ;)
[07:14] <kuba> Zico|: you managed?
[07:15] <_adam> to ja sie zmywam w takim razie
[07:18] <kuba> Zico|: I'll die in a few minutes but I'll try to make it on a different computer and see what will pop up
[07:19] <kuba> Zico|: nope. RedHat had a build simlink there yet still, some errors
[07:20] <kuba> cya all
[07:20] <_andrew> kuba, is there a remote possibility that I know you? You ever work around Plano Tx?
[07:20] <_andrew> doh! too late.
[07:25] <OdyX> Heyall. Does anyone know any QT/KDE alternative to dvdrip (that is awfully old and GTK)?
[07:25] <OdyX> I've taken Thoggen, but it is too in GTK and is awfully slow.
[07:27] <robotgeek> OdyX: k3b?
[07:27] <Kyral> OdyX: dd?
[07:28] <OdyX> Kyral & robotgeek: I'm wanting to do compressed files FROM DVD...
[07:28] <OdyX> like Ogg/Theora/Vorbis
[07:28] <OdyX> or at least Ogg/xvid/Vorbis
[07:28] <Kyral> Seriously when I rip DVDs, I just pop to a command line and run "dd if=/dev/hdd of=myiso.iso"
[07:28] <robotgeek> OdyX: sure, see k3b handbook for how to rip dvd's
[07:28] <leafw> what is the name of the package that contains the module PyQt4 ?
[07:28] <Kyral> brb
[07:28] <OdyX> Kyral: Yes.. but you get DVD's...
[07:29] <OdyX> no compression Kyral
[07:31] <uniq> leafw: don't think there is a package with pyqt4. only qt3 afaik.
[07:31] <Kyral> back
[07:31] <OdyX> robotgeek: seems fine... will take a look. Thanks
[07:31] <Kyral> OdyX: uhh, run it through gzip?
[07:31] <neoncode> If I use a kubuntu live CD Will it touch the Hard Drive? My friend wants to try it but He has to have the computer exacly the same as before I booted the Live CD
[07:31] <OdyX> Kyral: idea is to get compressed VIDEO, like Theora...
[07:31] <Kyral> oh kik
[07:32] <OdyX> Kyral: gzip'in a DVD will only reduce a little...
[07:32] <Kyral> neoncode: not unless you mount the partiions and mess with them
[07:32] <robotgeek> neoncode: live cd doesn't touch file system
[07:32] <leafw> uniq: so python2.4-qext is NOT pyqt4 ?
[07:32] <OdyX> Kyral: target is ~700 MiB
[07:32] <Kyral> OdyX: ooops, I guess I'm spoiled by an insane huge HD :DF
[07:32] <OdyX> Kyral: that's it :D
[07:32] <Kyral> Sysinfo for 'HyperDream': Linux 2.6.16-beyond running KDE 3.5.2, CPU: AMDAthlonXP2700+ at 2166 MHz (4337 bogomips), , RAM: 713/1011MB, 92 proc's, 3.14h up
[07:33] <OdyX> robotgeek: hum.. avi & xvid... :'(
[07:33] <java> Hello all, I'm just getting started w/ kubuntu
[07:33] <uniq> leafw: no. that's qt3.
[07:34] <leafw> uniq: ok, thanks.
[07:34] <robotgeek> OdyX: sure, it must be possible to rip to ogg to
[07:34] <robotgeek> too
[07:36] <stjepan> hi
[07:37] <stjepan> why is there a mess in konqueror's menus with KUbuntu???
[07:37] <mth`MAW> java: that is great :)
[07:37] <at1as> HELP PLEASE :)     - Has anyone else noticed directory structures being reset to restrictive permissions upon reboot?
[07:37] <Kyral> which ones
[07:37] <Kyral> which dirs that is
[07:37] <OdyX> robotgeek: but that part of k3b is unmaintained for now... But seems to...
[07:37] <stjepan> why there aren't some menu items in konqueror's menus?
[07:38] <java> I do have a question about the root passwd
[07:38] <stjepan> for example: tools>toolbars
[07:38] <Kyral> stjepan: like what?
[07:38] <Kyral> ubotu tell java about root
[07:38] <at1as> for example: /etc/alternatives/
[07:38] <stjepan> why is that?? :-o :-(
[07:38] <stjepan> !konqueror
[07:38] <ubotu> rumour has it, konqueror is the default Web Browser, File Manager, FTP manager and Universal viewing manager for the K Desktop Environment. See http://konqueror.org
[07:38] <at1as> Kyral: for example: /etc/alternatives/
[07:38] <Kyral> at1as: I never messed with that...they ARE supposed to be restrictive anyway!
[07:39] <Kyral> at1as: no offense, but chmoding anything in /etc is kinda dangerous anyway
[07:39] <at1as> Kyral: This doesn't make any sense for a directory anyway:
[07:39] <at1as> Kyral: drw-------    2 root     root        4096 Apr 12 03:36 alternatives
[07:39] <Kyral> yah?
[07:39] <Kyral> Root owns it
[07:39] <Kyral> nuff said
[07:39] <at1as> Kyral: I didn't make the change to begin with.....
[07:39] <Kyral> then it would be that way by default
[07:40] <at1as> Kyral, notice that it doesn't have "rwx"....
[07:40] <Kyral> Yah?
[07:40] <Kyral> it does
[07:40] <Kyral> rw
[07:40] <Kyral> read write
[07:40] <Kyral> D = Directory
[07:40] <Kyral> R = Read
[07:40] <Kyral> W = Write
[07:40] <at1as> Kyral, but to cd into the directory, it requires "x" as well.
[07:40] <Kyral> oh lol
[07:40] <Kyral> dunno check a normal install
[07:41] <xantian__> where can i Change Grub Splash Images
[07:41] <at1as> I'm wondering if I have a horked filesystem which is dorking with my settings.
[07:41] <Kyral> !splash
[07:41] <ubotu> To change the Gnome splash screen, open the gconf-editor and change the key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash-image
[07:41] <Kyral> Wrong one bot!
[07:41] <krage> is there a console based text editor included in standard kubuntu install?
[07:41] <Kyral> yes
[07:41] <xantian__> sure
[07:41] <Kyral> Vim and Nano
[07:41] <krage> thx
[07:42] <krage> :-)
[07:42] <Kyral> Vim and Nano are part of Ubuntu-Minimal IIRC
[07:42] <krage> i can't load x and need to edit my xorg.conf :)
[07:42] <xantian__> Kyral: not the Load Splash
[07:42] <xantian__> Grub Splash
[07:42] <Kyral> and all the Desktop derivatives depend on Ubuntu-Minimal
[07:42] <Kyral> xantian: no clue
[07:43] <xantian> "grub
[07:43] <xantian> !grub
[07:43] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[07:43] <xantian> !splash
[07:43] <ubotu> To change the Gnome splash screen, open the gconf-editor and change the key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash-image
[07:44] <robotgeek> xantian, use alt + f2, type "kcontrol" in the text box, and hit the <enter> key
[07:44] <robotgeek> then change from appearance
[07:46] <krage> where do I find the xorg.conf file?
[07:46] <Kyral> in /etc/X11
[07:47] <krage> :-) thx
[07:47] <Kyral> Make a backup first!
[07:47] <Kyral> just in case :D
[07:48] <leafw> krage: cd / && find -name "xorg.conf"
[07:48] <OdyX> robotgeek: if it was possible (as you seem to say) on k3b to encode in Ogg (with Vorbis), it is not now on last version...
[07:53] <_andrew> Is there a way to relaunch the configuration script that ran when I entered the resolution sizes? I need to add 1280x678.
[07:55] <_andrew> I am talking about configuring my display.
[07:55] <Blissex> _andrew: depends which one, but have you tried 'dpkg --reconfigure xorg-x11-Xserver' or similar?
[07:55] <Blissex> _andrew: anyhow, look at http://WWW/sabi.co.UK/Cfg/X11/ for examples of adding those kind of modes.
[07:56] <_andrew> nope -  I know that I was in a file similar to xorg trying to manually add the resolution. I'll try running the dpkg --reconifgure option.
[07:56] <Blissex> _andrew: anyhow, look at http://WWW.sabi.co.UK/Cfg/X11/ for examples of adding those kind of modes.
[07:59] <_andrew> also, I have hit ctrl + alt + f1 before and my entire kde desktop disapears, How do I get back into it? Restarting x tells me that x is already running...
[08:05] <bge> _andrew: try ctrl+alt+f7
[08:09] <jjesse> hmm how come i cna't get any sound when i play a cd in kscd?
[08:10] <Thuni> Hey I got a question, when trying to install through the live/install dvd, it tells me Alert! /dev/ram does not exist. Dropping to a shell! Then something called BusyBox comes up, anyone got any idea whats wrong? :P
[08:12] <gourdin> anyone here using xslg,
[08:12] <gourdin> xgl ?
[08:16] <timas> yello
[08:16] <timas> Question, anyone here proficient with postfix and relaying for unhosted domains?
[08:18] <uniq> backup MX ?
[08:19] <timas> sorta
[08:19] <timas> Its a complicated story ;)
[08:19] <timas> My dad has domain A hosted by a company somewhere.. he gets a pop server, but no smtp, he was told to use the one he got from his ISP
[08:20] <timas> previously, he was using my connection, with my ISP.. whom allowed us sending stuff for domain A
[08:20] <timas> now, he switched to a different ISP who refuses any other addies than there own..
[08:20] <timas> I'm like, "I can relay it through my own server"
[08:20] <uniq> ok.. now you want to setup your own smtp server... get it. smtp auth then.
[08:21] <timas> but postfix, it don't like relaying
[08:21] <uniq> look at sasl and smtp auth setup.
[08:21] <timas> yeah, uh, I didn't exactly get auth to work
[08:23] <timas> I went through a howto to get sasl and tls activated
[08:23] <timas> but sasl didn't quite get there..
[08:24] <lwizardl> hi
[08:24] <uniq> postfix.org is good.
[08:24] <lwizardl> i downloaded and installed the blackdown jre1.4 deb and i'm getting errors runnig java apps
[08:25] <uniq> timas: you often get error messages in some logfiles when things go wrong. they can tell you alot. i don't have time to walk you though a setup, sorry.
[08:25] <timas> postfix.org lacks a workable/simple description on how to do stuff, there's just too much stuff I can do with postfix :)
[08:26] <timas> No worries, never expected you to :) was actually coming onto here to see if there's a postfix channel, kubuntu is automatically opened when I login so I figured I'd see if anyone here knew :)
[08:27] <Phazeman> can someone please supply some kind of link about upgrading breezy to dapper ? is updating the sources.list and update && upgrade will do the job ?
[08:28] <timas> I -think- I saw something about that on ubuntuforums.org Phazeman..
[08:28] <Phazeman> timas: thanks.. i will try looking there
[08:29] <timas> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=158079&highlight=upgrade+breezy+dapper Phazeman
[08:30] <Phazeman> timas: yeah.. thanks much
[08:31] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Phazeman about upgrade
[08:31] <nalioth> !upgrade
[08:31] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade.  Upgrading to dapper (remember it may break). Please test the dist-upgrader -> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html.
[08:31] <nalioth> the bot has many factoids
[08:31] <gourdin> I got "kernel module has 1.0-7174  but the X module has the version 1.0-8756"
[08:32] <gourdin> with the last nvidia driver from the kubuntu repo
[08:32] <gourdin> anyone got a clue ?
[08:32] <mornfall> jpetso: you almost make it sound like it's adept's fault
[08:33] <jpetso> mornfall: I hereby officially state that my Dapper upgrading problems are not adept's fault
[08:33] <timas> 3 cheers for adept
[08:34] <mornfall> :)
[08:34] <jpetso> mornfall: i'm quite impressed to get a comment at this time, because it seems like hours since I asked
[08:35] <jpetso> mornfall: but you don't have a clue either what could have gone wrong, no?
[08:35] <mornfall> jpetso: i'm impressed noone has noticed yet i have a highlight on adept :] 
[08:35] <mornfall> jpetso: i'd need apt-get dist
[08:35] <mornfall> jpetso: -upgrade output
[08:36] <mornfall> jpetso: at least
[08:36] <mornfall> pastebin or something
[08:36] <panzi> can some one post his/her /etc/inittab? a untouched kubuntu inittab would be nice
[08:36] <panzi> i dont know what, but something has corrupted mine
[08:36] <panzi> well currupted...
[08:37] <mornfall> hmm, 18 minutes of battery remaining
[08:37] <mornfall> and i'm so lazy
[08:37] <panzi> automatic missconfigurated
[08:37] <jpetso> mornfall: apt-get --download-only dist-upgrade is running and has occupied all the Konsole window, so I can't copy the output currently, and I can't start a new one because of the lock
[08:37] <jpetso> mornfall: but it's no problem, never mind
[08:37] <mornfall> jpetso: it's safe to ctrl+c -- it'll start where it left last time... also, there's a scrollbar in konsole :)
[08:38] <jpetso> mornfall: ...oh, right
[08:40] <lwizardl> how do i grant root access to my login ?
[08:41] <h3sp4wn> lwizardl: if its your only login it should already have it - get root by sudo -i (with your own password)
[08:41] <gourdin> anyone using nvidia binary driver here ?
[08:42] <timas> how can I view my installed packages?
[08:42] <jpetso> mornfall: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/654019 is the dist-upgrade output, without actually upgrading
[08:42] <lwizardl> h3sp4wn: it won't let me create folders or drag files to some folders
[08:42] <lwizardl> yeah its my only login
[08:42] <jpetso> mornfall: it seems like apt wants to remove a) all or most kde apps, b) eclipse, and c) plone
[08:42] <kuba> Damn, it seems to have worked... :)
[08:43] <kuba> jpetso: I have just updated
[08:43] <kuba> it did remove all and replace with newer versions
[08:43] <jpetso> kuba: that means it could work now? let's see, i'll check that
[08:44] <kuba> jpetso: I did it using apt-get and those command Sleeping_Kaiser gave me and it works
[08:44] <lwizardl> whats the bash command for make dir
[08:44] <kuba> I have all the programs I had (+a few new)
[08:44] <kuba> mkdir
[08:44] <lwizardl> thanks
[08:45] <jpetso> ok
[08:45] <kuba> Does anyone know how to get rid of Adept update notifier icon? I have all updates and yet it's still there
[08:46] <kuba> jpetso: better backup anyway
[08:46] <kuba> :)
[08:46] <jpetso> kuba: in any case, I have to download all the packages first, that takes some time
[08:46] <vge> kuba: second click on it and select "never ever open again"?
[08:47] <_andrew> kuba, did you ever work in Plano Tx?
[08:47] <kuba> vge: But I like it! I want it to 'watch'. Just that now I have all updates and this thing's still here...
[08:47] <jpetso> kuba: and no, no backup, it can't be that bad - as long as my $HOME isn't damaged, it'll be alright
[08:47] <kuba> _andrew: nope
[08:47] <timas> Kuba, run it
[08:47] <kuba> timas: done. twice.
[08:47] <vge> kuba: so you want only to hide the icon?
[08:47] <timas> Thats what fixed it for me.. >_<
[08:48] <kuba> vge: yes, but I want it back when updates really appear
[08:48] <_andrew> kuba, ok - New a programmer that worked at an office who was Polish and went by the same name. I guess it's pretty common?
[08:48] <Phazeman> thanks nalioth
[08:48] <nalioth> Phazeman: you're welcome
[08:48] <Phazeman> i'm running the dist-upgrade already... didn't see your msg at time
[08:49] <kuba> _andrew: Quite. Not like the English John though :)
[08:49] <Phazeman> nalioth: but i remember last time i tried to upgrade with the dist-updater it broke the system completely.. took me a week to bring it back to a full working state
[08:49] <kuba> _andrew to be honest, it's James in English. Now you know how common ;)
[08:49] <vge> i just love how fast linux is to reinstall if needed
[08:49] <CPrompt> Hey all.  is it possible to use the Windows XP Remote Desktop Connection to connect to Kubuntu?
[08:50] <nalioth> Phazeman: just change your sources and dist-upgrade via apt.   keep in mind that dapper is in development and it may not work out too well
[08:50] <vge> CPrompt: donno about the XP:s own feature, but VNC works godly
[08:51] <kuba> damn, sound didn't make it...
[08:51] <CPrompt> vge : yeah.  I can use VNC but for some reason it is like REAL slow!
[08:51] <Phazeman> nalioth: yeah, thats exactly what i'm doing. about the dev version - its going to get out very soon afaik, so most "heavy" bugs are fixed i think
[08:51] <vge> CPrompt: what are you using in kubuntu?
[08:52] <CPrompt> vge : for Kubuntu I have the Desktop Sharing running.
[08:52] <CPrompt> vge : I just enabled the desktop sharing and I could connect to it from Windows via VNC
[08:52] <vge> wierd, works nicely here the kde default
[08:53] <CPrompt> vge : hmmmmm....do you think that forwarding ports in the router would speed things up?
[08:53] <vge> but as my second computer is broken atm, i cant test it sry :)
[08:53] <kuba> OK, I have to go. Thanks for all your help guys. Cya all
[08:54] <vge> CPrompt: well im no guru on vnc, i think somebody other can give you ansvers how to speed it up
[08:55] <vge> usually when it works, it works good enough for me :)
[08:55] <CPrompt> gotcha.    Thanks!
[08:56] <mhterres> CPrompt: you can try nx
[08:57] <CPrompt> mhterres : what is nx?  got a link?
[08:57] <mhterres> yes
[08:57] <mhterres> one moment
[08:57] <CPrompt> no problem
[08:57] <mhterres> CPrompt: http://freenx.berlios.de/
[08:57] <mhterres> this is the server
[08:58] <mhterres> the client has packages in Kubuntu
[08:58] <mhterres> It's a nice solution for remote access
[08:58] <CPrompt> ah!  Groovy!  I'll give that a go when I get back home.  Thanks!
[08:58] <mhterres> :-)
[08:59] <CPrompt> debian package and everything.
[08:59] <mhterres> yes
[08:59] <mhterres> The package works fine in Ubuntu
[08:59] <vge> !openoffice
[08:59] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, vge
[09:01] <vge> bot makes internet page address faul, can somebody remove . after webpage address?
[09:15] <Winterwolf> Hello, i need some help with get kubuntu work, think i will be able to get some help?
[09:18] <Winterwolf> well i hope someone will answer ;) i got the following problem: i did start with installing ubuntu 5.04 server version, then did i install kubuntu by using apt-get install kubuntu-desktop. every thing went fine i think at the end of install did i get the console back so i did type in kde but something or more correst nothing happend, the screen did become black and i was not able too do anything. i got Geforce 4mx. please help me
[09:27] <George007> kubuntu is fun :)
[09:28] <George007> !terminal
[09:29] <George007> There is no temrinal in Kubuntu?
[09:29] <George007> !terminal
[09:29] <CPrompt> @Winterwolf : can you not just install Kubundu with the Desktop?
[09:29] <CPrompt> after that you can install stuff like Apache, PHP, MySQL, etc...
[09:30] <Winterwolf> why? i did think that the apt-get system did fix all that
[09:30] <Winterwolf> when u download don't all the dependens get installed too?
[09:31] <smoosh> i'm unable to change the icons of my files (*.doc, *.xls, ecc.)
[09:31] <CPrompt> Yes it is supposed to get the dependencies, however, you are having problems so I was just wondering if you could try it that way
[09:32] <mhterres> Winterwolf: what's the problem ?
[09:32] <Winterwolf> i can't get any grafic with kubuntu :S
[09:32] <George007> How do I open a terminal on KDE?
[09:32] <mhterres> are  you login in terminal ?
[09:33] <George007> excuse me?
[09:33] <h3sp4wn> System-Konsole
[09:33] <h3sp4wn> on the k menu
[09:33] <mhterres> Winterwolf: are you login in terminal ?
[09:33] <Winterwolf> when i'm root do i type kde (that i think will start kde) but the screen go black and i have too restart the computer manual
[09:33] <smoosh> George007: KDE button --> System --> Konsole
[09:33] <George007> Ah.. alright.. thx
[09:34] <Winterwolf> i'm using knoppix atm..
[09:34] <mhterres> Winterwolf: but when you install kubuntu the graphical interface is default. Is it not working got you ?
[09:34] <mhterres> Hmmm
[09:34] <mhterres> Winterwolf: try startx
[09:35] <Winterwolf> i don't think so, should explain why the screen go black my grafic card can't take the grafic maybe wrong drivers?
[09:35] <mhterres> maybe
[09:35] <mhterres> what video card do you have ?
[09:35] <aguazer0> hi
[09:35] <mhterres> hi
[09:35] <Winterwolf> geforce 4mx ;)
[09:36] <mhterres> GeForce 4 MX 440 ?
[09:36] <Winterwolf> yes
[09:36] <mhterres> It's a common video adapter
[09:36] <mhterres> did you try to download the latest nvidia drivers
[09:36] <mhterres> ?
[09:36] <Winterwolf> no, don't know how :(
[09:36] <mhterres> The latest version configure X for you
[09:36] <mhterres> www.nvidia.com
[09:36] <mhterres> look in downloads, Linux
[09:37] <smoosh> i'm unable to change the icons of my files (*.doc, *.xls, ecc.), i'ive used "files association" in kcontrol but it don't rebember the association...
[09:37] <mhterres> when the download finishes, make the file executable and run it
[09:37] <Winterwolf> hmm so i download it, and restart and then start it by using console?
[09:37] <mhterres> you'll need the sources of your kernel, cause it'll compile the module
[09:37] <Winterwolf> do it work? i'm using knoppix now
[09:37] <mhterres> no, install the drivers, then try to start the X
[09:37] <mhterres> yes, it works in all distros
[09:38] <mhterres> knoppix=debian
[09:38] <yuriy> how do you use checkinstall?
[09:39] <Winterwolf> hmm how do i save something too the hdd when i'm in knoppix?
[09:41] <Winterwolf> hmm how do i use apt-get too download nvidias latest grafic drivers?
[09:41] <Winterwolf> what commands?
[09:42] <mhterres> You can download direct in your browser
[09:43] <mhterres> to save you'll need to mount your partitions
[09:59] <gourdin> using xgl, I got a problem using a french keyboard
[09:59] <gourdin> anyone in the same situation ?
[10:04] <yuriy> using kaffeine 0.8.1 for a minute and it hasn't crashed yet :) an improvement
[10:05] <achillescp> quick question: how can I change the system locale in kubuntu dapper?
[10:06] <achillescp> 'dpkg-reconfigure locales' doesn't ask me for it anymore
[10:10] <zblach> hi. quick question. how can I access windows shares via samba?
[10:12] <achillescp> =P
[10:12] <arrinmurr> zblach: smb:/ in konqueror?
[10:12] <zblach> arrinmurr: telling me that lisa doesn't start automatically
[10:12] <zblach> and i'm fairly sure I configured it correctly
[10:15] <arrinmurr> zblach: hmm.. i don't think you should need to configure anything in kubuntu to access windows shares via konqueror. i've never had to anyway.
[10:15] <zblach> i'm not using the default eth0 network
[10:20] <Flosoft> hey
[10:20] <Flosoft> how can I definetly set my primary soundcard?
[10:20] <Flosoft> it keeps changing
[10:20] <Kyral> Disable the other one
[10:21] <Flosoft> I need both of them to work
[10:21] <Kyral> Dunno then
[10:21] <crimsun> Flosoft: cat /proc/asound/modules
[10:22] <Flosoft> root@Ubuntu:~ # cat /proc/asound/modules
[10:22] <Flosoft> 0 snd_emu10k1x
[10:22] <Flosoft> 1 snd_mpu401
[10:22] <Flosoft> 2 snd_cmipci
[10:22] <Flosoft> root@Ubuntu:~ #
[10:22] <Flosoft> 0 doesn't exist anymore
[10:22] <sredna> So, how fast will koffice 1.5 populate the various mirrors?
[10:22] <crimsun> Flosoft: what's the standard config?
[10:22] <Flosoft> well I have one onboard and one Dell PCI SB
[10:23] <crimsun> Flosoft: and which do you want to be primary?
[10:23] <Flosoft> onboard
[10:24] <crimsun> Flosoft: the cmipci?
[10:24] <Flosoft> I don't know really :S
[10:24] <Flosoft> how can I see the names Kmixer / alsamixer displays?
[10:25] <crimsun> what do you mean by "0 doesn't exist anymore"?
[10:25] <Flosoft> ah sorry
[10:25] <Flosoft> 0 is Soundblaster
[10:25] <Flosoft> 1 is gone
[10:25] <Flosoft> 2 is onboard
[10:26] <crimsun> right, so you want to use your onboard sound instead of the dell sblive?
[10:26] <Flosoft> well as standard yes
[10:29] <sredna> Riddell: According to the dot, koffice 1.5 has been released
[10:29] <sredna> (and kubuntu packages are available)
[10:30] <Riddell> true, I should pay attention to my own news postings
[10:30] <sredna> :)
[10:30] <vincentu> #ubuntu-fr
[10:30] <sredna> I didn't get it yet though
[10:32] <leafw> I have an issue that is torturing me
[10:32] <leafw> with 'sudo -i'
[10:32] <leafw> the 'sudo -i' command brings me to the root home regardless
[10:32] <leafw> how can that be stopped, so that it remains in the same directory ?
[10:33] <crimsun> Flosoft: echo "options snd-emu10k1x index=-2" |sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.cards
[10:33] <Flosoft> options snd-emu10k1x index=-2
[10:33] <Flosoft> root@Ubuntu:~ #
[10:33] <crimsun> Flosoft: then, echo "options snd-mpu401 index=-2" |sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.cards
[10:34] <Flosoft> gives me an >
[10:34] <crimsun> you made a type
[10:34] <crimsun> typo^
[10:35] <Flosoft> so what is the right one?
[10:36] <Flosoft> options snd-mpu401 index=-2
[10:36] <Flosoft> root@Ubuntu:~ #
[10:36] <Flosoft> so now it is fixed?
[10:37] <yuriy> hi, i'm trying out kaffeine 0.8.1, can anybody tell me if they have these issues with the previous version (0.7) that's current for dapper:
[10:37] <yuriy> there is a "Rip CD" button that does seemingly nothing and there is also an "Encode..." button that tells me no audio encoders were found.   I don't see any configuration for encoding in the program.
[10:37] <yuriy> 2. even though i'm playing a CD, the playlist view still has the name of the last file I played scrolling across the top
[10:38] <mth`MAW> n8
[10:45] <theripper> after i install ann app with the adept ,how do i know where it was installed and which file is the executable for that app?
[10:51] <errpast1> theripper: for dpkg, I would run 'dpkg -l' to list all packages
[10:51] <errpast1> I could grep for the package I just installed
[10:51] <errpast1> dpkg -s <packagename> would give me description
[10:51] <StR> hi all!
[10:52] <errpast1> dpkg -L <app> will show you all the files that were installed
[10:52] <errpast1> I'm not sure about adept, and its relation to dpkg, debs, etc.
[10:54] <DiL> usually the executable files are in /usr/bin. So using a pipe, you can get this information:
[10:54] <DiL> var/cache/apt/archives# dpkg -c yakuake_2.6-0ubuntu1_i386.deb | grep bin
[10:56] <StR> hi all!  anyone could tell me if we will have xgl on kubuntu 6.06?
[10:57] <dell500> anyone know how to make multiple instances of kaffeine?
[10:57] <yuriy> StR: it's in universe, but it won't be on by default
[10:58] <StR> yuriy: ok, after installing it from universe, it will work on kde? I ask because for ubuntu they ask for something called compiz....
[10:59] <nico8481> re
[10:59] <yuriy> StR: that's all i know, i haven't actually tried it myself yet..... partially because I didn't know how to get it to work in KDE
[11:00] <yuriy> StR: compiz is a window manager. gnome by default uses metacity, and KDE uses kwin. compiz replaces them.
[11:00] <StR> yuriy: so... compiz can be run instead of kwin?
[11:02] <yuriy> StR: something like that. but if i understand it right, compiz doesn't provide it's own decorations so you don't get title bars?? or something like that.  in gnome you can run something else to give you decorations but I don't know in KDE.
[11:03] <StR> yuriy: so, if I want xgl... you recomend me to use gnome, not kde, right?
[11:09] <yuriy> StR: i have no idea. i recommend you try it in kde and tell me how it went :D
[11:11] <Ranma> hi 2 all
[11:12] <arrinmurr> StR: xgl/compiz works fine with kde, you just need to use gnome-window-decorator with it for now, until kde-window-decorator starts working
[11:15] <arcanistherogue> when did kubuntu first come out?
[11:16] <gourdin> konqueror wont run
[11:16] <gourdin> stall reading a socket
[11:16] <arcanistherogue> what is the error
[11:16] <Ranma> Im wondering if someone could help me... When I try to unmount a hard disk under kde it says that according to mtab is not mounted but kde shows it as still mounted
[11:16] <arcanistherogue> what is the exact error?
[11:16] <arcanistherogue> i mean to gourdin
[11:16] <gourdin> I got the same thing as this guy : http://archives.mandrivalinux.com/expert/2005-01/msg01010.php
[11:16] <arcanistherogue> ranma, what is the mount point
[11:16] <gourdin> arcanistherogue: http://archives.mandrivalinux.com/expert/2005-01/msg01010.php
[11:16] <gourdin> same thing
[11:17] <gourdin> last strace line :
[11:17] <Ranma> the mount point is /media/hdc
[11:17] <gourdin> arcanistherogue: can I paste here ?
[11:17] <arcanistherogue> sorry gourdin, thats a tad over my head :\, keep asking for help here or post it on the forums is the best response i have for you ;_;
[11:18] <gourdin> arcanistherogue: ok, thx
[11:18] <arcanistherogue> but with you ranma, I can help, i'm pretty sure
[11:18] <Ranma> i hope so
[11:18] <gourdin> ranma ?
[11:18] <gourdin> ah ok
[11:18] <arcanistherogue> ranma, are you trying to unmount cia command line or via the GUI
[11:18] <gourdin> =)
[11:18] <Ranma> me
[11:18] <arcanistherogue> *via
[11:18] <arcanistherogue> or via the system settings
[11:19] <Ranma> via the gui, by command i can mount and unmount without problems, but kde shows the unit as still mounted when its not
[11:19] <arcanistherogue> when it shows it as mounted, does it show it as mounted or plugged in?  If it is mounted it has a little green triangle (if you are using the defualt theme) in the bottom right of hte icon
[11:19] <arcanistherogue> and are you doing this via GUI as root or a user
[11:19] <arcanistherogue> you might not have permission to unmount it
[11:20] <Ranma> no no,mounted
[11:20] <Ranma> yes i have cause i add the user line in fstab to do so
[11:20] <arcanistherogue> hmm
[11:20] <arcanistherogue> does this happen with any other disks mounted?
[11:20] <Ranma> not with cdrom cause im using submount for that
[11:21] <Ranma> only with hard disk
[11:21] <arcanistherogue> but does it happen with any other hd partitions
[11:21] <arcanistherogue> oh all hard disk ones?
[11:21] <Ranma> yes
[11:21] <arcanistherogue> hmm
[11:21] <Ranma> really weird
[11:22] <arcanistherogue> that is rather odd
[11:22] <Ranma> im not using hal either
[11:22] <Ranma> im starting to think that its a kded problem
[11:22] <arcanistherogue> perhaps, what version of kde do you have?
[11:23] <Ranma> 3.5.2
[11:23] <arcanistherogue> i dont know what to say man, kde can be a bit quirky with disk un/mounting sometimes
[11:23] <arcanistherogue> it happened to me on KDE 3.4 with slax
[11:23] <arcanistherogue> but it was with USB devices
[11:23] <Ranma> im not alone at least
[11:24] <arcanistherogue> yeah, sorry i couldnt be of more help, try searching the bug reports on kde
[11:24] <arcanistherogue> or
[11:24] <gourdin> any kubuntu dev here ?
[11:24] <arcanistherogue> you could make a command icon, like make a button on your panel and have it linked to a command to unmount
[11:25] <Ranma> i will, in the meantime im going to try using subfs on hard disk too to see if behaves in the same way as manual mount
[11:25] <arcanistherogue> since you said it worked via command line
[11:25] <arcanistherogue> thats what i do sometimes
[11:25] <Ranma> thats a good idea
[11:26] <arcanistherogue> funny, "The Ripper" came up on my playlist about 5 mins ago
[11:26] <arcanistherogue> <_<
[11:27] <Ranma> I have another question I have an ati card, its posible to do tvout without the proprietary drivers? i mean with ati or radeon driver?
[11:28] <arcanistherogue> eh sorry i definantly can't help you there, I'm an nVidia user :/
[11:28] <Ranma> hahahah
[11:28] <Ranma> im thinking of buying an nvidia card
[11:28] <arcanistherogue> I originally purchased one because my friend reccomended one to me, but then i kept buying em because of linux driver support, so I have never got an ATi card in my life
[11:28] <arcanistherogue> its rather nice, the drivers
[11:28] <arcanistherogue> its almost as good as the windows ones
[11:29] <Ranma> cause the ati is driving me nutz
[11:29] <arcanistherogue> performance is about the same
[11:29] <arcanistherogue> except Antialiasing is a bit weaker on linux i notice
[11:29] <arcanistherogue> with the nvidia drivers
[11:29] <Ranma> i know i had an nvidia with gentoo
[11:30] <arcanistherogue> i tried gentoo once, I never got past the install ;_;
[11:30] <arcanistherogue> I didn't want to take the time to pore through the 90+ page manual i printed
[11:30] <Bambino> my dear beloved fellow mates, is it possible to downlod kdmtheme for breezy?
[11:30] <arcanistherogue> i think i still have it bound in a binder somewhere
[11:30] <arcanistherogue> kdmtheme?
[11:30] <Ranma> i used gentoo for 3 years and after that i switched to kubuntu
[11:30] <arcanistherogue> have you checked the repos with all of htem enabled?
[11:31] <arcanistherogue> if it isn't there, you might want to check for a .deb package of it, or compile it from source
[11:31] <arcanistherogue> well i need to go to get something to eat now, ill be back in a while
[11:33] <Bambino> arcanistherogue, I searched to no avail, cant find anything
[11:39] <embrik> where do I download the essential files for kafeine to use when playing microsoft-format videos?
[11:39] <gourdin> is compiz-kde usable ? if yes, how ?
[11:39] <Bambino> so no one knows if i can get kdmtheme for ubuntu breezy
[11:39] <buz> gourdin: no its not
[11:39] <tmdx120> hello room.
[11:39] <buz> but compiz-gnome works save for the window manager
[11:40] <gourdin> buz: yes, I'm running it right now ;)
[11:40] <gourdin> konqueror don't work on dapper here :(
[11:40] <buz> huh? it works for me on xgl and xorg no problem
[11:40] <gourdin> buz: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=4591.0
[11:41] <buz> that is weird
[11:41] <gourdin> yep
[11:41] <buz> maybe you want to go to compiz.ed3n.com ?
[11:41] <gourdin> ?
[11:41] <gourdin> you think it is a xgl bug ?
[11:41] <buz> well, i dont really know
[11:42] <buz> it works for me on both xgl and xorg
[11:42] <buz> but everything weird on xgl is likely xgl related ;)
[11:42] <gourdin> =)
[11:42] <slow-motion> re
[11:42] <buz> is that 64bit
[11:46] <gourdin> buz: If you press "alt-f2", you too loose the display of your windows ?
[11:46] <gourdin> clicking on the desktop redisplay them
[11:46] <buz> no
[11:47] <gourdin> ?
[11:47] <gourdin> hmm
[11:47] <buz> works for me
[11:47] <gourdin> you did something ?
[11:47] <buz> no
[11:47] <buz> just instal
[11:47] <gourdin> what's your compiz line ?
[11:50] <embrik> ./bye