| cprov | good night | 12:09 |
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| dilys | Merge to devel/launchpad/: r=BjornT,carlos rs=SteveA Fix LIKE/ILIKE queries that were incorrectly using quote() instead of quote_like. Also fix uses of urljoin that should have been urlappends. Delintifies in places (r3447: kiko) | 12:09 |
| carlos | good night | 12:10 |
| kiko | yay | 12:10 |
| lifeless | moin | 12:44 |
| ddaa | morning lifeless | 12:47 |
| ddaa | coding policy question | 12:59 |
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| ddaa | I want to define a method/function that computes a sort key for a branch, for use in the various branch listing pages in Launchpad | 01:00 |
| ddaa | Where should I put that? | 01:00 |
| ddaa | Some options: staticmethod in database.Branch, staticmethod in database.BranchSet, top-level function in interfaces.branch | 01:01 |
| ddaa | none of those makes me particularly happy | 01:01 |
| ddaa | lifeless: ? | 01:02 |
| ddaa | Mh... could be a method in database.Branch, as well... | 01:02 |
| ddaa | lifeless: thank you | 01:02 |
| ddaa | well... not very good either, since it's a view thing... should not be in the content class | 01:03 |
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| lifeless | hi | 01:06 |
| lifeless | ddaa: does it return a key from one Branch, or from many ? | 01:06 |
| mdke_ | x | 01:07 |
| ddaa | branch -> sort key | 01:07 |
| mdke_ | mental note: stop leaning on laptop | 01:07 |
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| ddaa | for use as sorted(branches, key=sort_key_function) | 01:07 |
| lifeless | ok | 01:09 |
| lifeless | then its really something you get from a single branch | 01:09 |
| lifeless | why would it live anywhere else than Branch ? | 01:09 |
| ddaa | because Branch is the content class, and that's view logic. | 01:09 |
| lifeless | view logic is the browser set of classes | 01:10 |
| lifeless | but ... | 01:11 |
| ddaa | maybe a top-level method in browser.branch? | 01:11 |
| ddaa | s/method/function/ | 01:11 |
| lifeless | that sounds like a method that any type of presentation could use | 01:11 |
| ddaa | yes | 01:11 |
| lifeless | so its not so ugly to put it in the content class | 01:11 |
| lifeless | which is where I think a lot of the sort_key logic done today goes. | 01:12 |
| ddaa | currently trying to convince myself I can make a sort key that works for all views... | 01:12 |
| lifeless | there was a discussion on launchpad@ beween mark and steve recently about a case of this. | 01:12 |
| ddaa | maybe (product, status, author, name, owner) | 01:13 |
| ddaa | okay... I'll factor it out | 01:13 |
| ddaa | Mh... the annoying bit is that it's hard to specify an attribute as sort key... need to use a lambda | 01:14 |
| lifeless | operator | 01:15 |
| ddaa | ? | 01:15 |
| lifeless | sorted(branches, key=operator.attrgetter('sort_key')) | 01:15 |
| ddaa | sorted(branches, key=lambda b: b.sort_key) | 01:16 |
| ddaa | ugh | 01:16 |
| ddaa | methink lambda is still less ugly! | 01:16 |
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| sabdfl | kiko-zzz: dude, i'm too late right? | 01:41 |
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| hendry | how do i see bugs i'm subscribed ? | 03:46 |
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| spiv | hendry: https://launchpad.net/people/<your user name>/+subscribedbugs | 04:17 |
| hendry | spiv: thanks | 04:21 |
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| dilys | Merge to devel/launchpad/: [trivial] Decruft (unused) date widget example (r3448: Stuart Bishop) | 04:32 |
| jamesh | lifeless: this might be another option for getting SIP working: http://people.netfilter.org/chentschel/docs/sip-conntrack-nat.html | 04:35 |
| jamesh | without siproxd | 04:35 |
| lifeless | jamesh: if you like kernel crashes | 04:42 |
| lifeless | jamesh: the divmod guys have tried that, and apparently you play roulette with your kernel on every sip packet, | 04:43 |
| lifeless | besides - theres no need for kernel involvement. | 04:43 |
| lifeless | should be possible to redirect sip (5060) packets to siproxd with iptables, and have siproxd inject 'active connection' records into iptables as needed | 04:44 |
| lifeless | no way does this belong in kernel space :) | 04:44 |
| jamesh | lifeless: is it that just an issue with the particular module, or the approach in general? | 04:47 |
| lifeless | that module is apparently a flakey pos | 04:48 |
| lifeless | but sip is complex. putting in the kernel is a bad idea in general | 04:48 |
| lifeless | s/in/it in | 04:48 |
| lifeless | got to go buy more disk storage for my home server. bbiab | 04:51 |
| jamesh | lifeless: http://siproxd.sourceforge.net/siproxd_guide/siproxd_guide_c6s4.html <- I guess siproxd can already do the transparent proxying trick | 04:52 |
| lifeless | looks like | 04:53 |
| lifeless | not quite complete though | 04:53 |
| lifeless | this rule | 04:53 |
| lifeless | iptables -A INPUT -m udp -p udp -i ppp0 --dport 7070:7089 -j ACCEPT | 04:53 |
| lifeless | is not stateful | 04:53 |
| lifeless | it should possible for siproxd to poke the kernel to say that a specific host:port:internal_host:port quad is accepted *and where the natted address is* | 04:54 |
| lifeless | then the rtp packets do not need to bounce via siproxd which will be faster | 04:55 |
| lifeless | tchau | 04:55 |
| mpt | Goooooooooooooooooooooood afternoon Launchpadders! | 05:31 |
| mpt | D'oh, I missed ddaa | 05:31 |
| stub | Is there a builtin way of flattening a structure like (a, b, (c, (d, e), f)) to (a, b, c, d, e, f) if I don't care about ordering of the final tuple/set/whatever i get back? | 05:36 |
| stub | mpt: launchpad_ftest_template in use should be a thing in the past now | 05:38 |
| mpt | stub, excellent | 05:39 |
| mpt | stub, in about how many hours is the rollout? | 05:39 |
| stub | mpt: Don't know - I haven't heard back from elmo or Znarl | 05:39 |
| stub | mpt: Probably around 10:00 UTC | 05:39 |
| stub | (is London UTC+1 now?) | 05:40 |
| mpt | no idea - that's why I ask in terms of hours :-) | 05:40 |
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| Unfrgiven | hi all. im having problems with e-mail on launchpad. all e-mails to ankur.kotwal@ubuntu.com are bouncing back, returning unknown alias. i am an ubuntu member. can someone assist me with this? | 05:47 |
| stub | Unfrgiven: The only person who can help is elmo I'm afraid. If you are around on London time you can sort it via IRC, or email rt@admin.canonical.com to stick a request into his queue. | 05:56 |
| Unfrgiven | stub: ok cool. thanks for the info. | 06:04 |
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| carthik | Is it okay to ask a "user" question. pardon me if it's not :) Why doesn't the following link seem to list the bugs oldest first, though it is supposed to? There seems to be no order wrt time: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs?advanced=1&field.searchtext=fixed&orderby=datecreated&field.status%3Alist=Needs+Info&field.status%3Alist=Fix+Committed&assignee_option=any&field.assignee=&field.owner=&field.component-empty-marker=1&field.omit_dup | 07:18 |
| carthik | es.used=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.has_patch.used=&field.has_no_package.used=&search=Search+bugs+in+Ubuntu&batch_start=75&batch_end=150 | 07:18 |
| carthik | wow, that was longer than I thought. Let me make a shorter url. I'm really sorry. | 07:19 |
| carthik | http://shurl.org/dsRvn Thanks in advance. | 07:19 |
| robotgeek | Unfrgiven: did you make it your main email? | 07:20 |
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| mpt_ | BjornT, ping | 08:25 |
| BjornT | mpt_: pong | 08:27 |
| mpt_ | BjornT, when you said "remove [priority] from IBugTask", does that mean removing it from just browser/bugtask.py, or also interfaces/bugtask.py? | 08:28 |
| mpt_ | (sorry for the novice-level question) | 08:30 |
| BjornT | mpt_: i was thinking removing it from interfaces/bugtask.py. that way, if some code tries to access the attribute, a ForbiddenAttribute exception will be raised. | 08:30 |
| mpt_ | ok | 08:31 |
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| carlos | morning | 08:44 |
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| sivang | morning all | 08:56 |
| mpt | BjornT, removing it from interfaces/bugtask.py causes an importfascist KeyError in database/bugtask.py | 08:56 |
| mpt | I guess that means removing it from database/ too | 08:57 |
| BjornT | mpt: IBugTask['priority'] .default can be removed and replaced with None. | 09:02 |
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| mpt | ugh | 09:47 |
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| lifeless | why don't source packages have specs ? | 10:04 |
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| isaric | I a problem of impression with OOo.org on Dapper UBUNTU, is it necessary has to make in report/ratio of bug? http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?id=34809 | 10:13 |
| jamesh | isaric: could you rephrase that? | 10:17 |
| isaric | I am not on being able it, I test | 10:19 |
| isaric | Since I passed in UBUNTU Dapper, I cannot print with openoffice.org | 10:20 |
| dilys | Merge to devel/launchpad/: [trivial] Added Dzongkha plural forms to our sample data (r3449: Carlos Perello Marin) | 10:20 |
| lifeless | BjornT: please remember to update the pending reviews wiki page when you do a review | 10:21 |
| jamesh | isaric: then it would make sense to report a bug | 10:21 |
| lifeless | it throws the stats out :) | 10:21 |
| lifeless | jamesh - same for you | 10:21 |
| jamesh | lifeless: I have | 10:21 |
| lifeless | yah | 10:21 |
| lifeless | I see that now, stats page is slow | 10:22 |
| lifeless | but you hadn't this morning :) | 10:22 |
| jamesh | true. | 10:22 |
| jamesh | I updated the statuses right after doing salgado's branch | 10:23 |
| lifeless | its ok | 10:23 |
| lifeless | water under the bridge now | 10:23 |
| BjornT | lifeless: right, sorry, forgot to do that for the last review. | 10:28 |
| mpt | carlos, that was quick handling of Dzonghka, now how about Tamazight? :-) | 10:28 |
| BjornT | lifeless: or did i? :) which branch? | 10:28 |
| jamesh | lifeless: I'm getting a machine to replace the firewall soon (a 2.8GHz Pentium D from Dell for about $500). I'll get the siproxd stuff set up on that box so we can test things then | 10:29 |
| carlos | mpt: did we get a request for it? | 10:29 |
| carlos | I think I missed it, where? | 10:29 |
| mpt | carlos, bug 3954 | 10:31 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 3954 in rosetta "Tamazight needs adding to Rosetta" [Normal,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/3954 | 10:31 |
| lifeless | BjornT: I did it just now | 10:31 |
| lifeless | jamesh: FWIW siproxd on my P150 firewall works fine :) | 10:31 |
| BjornT | lifeless: ah, i saw that you changed it. the thing is that i reviewed it, but then matsubara found out that he needed to take a completely different approach, so he sent me a new diff and changed it to needs-review himself. | 10:32 |
| jamesh | lifeless: sure, but my current firewall machine needs a refresh (it is still running Fedora Core 2) | 10:32 |
| carlos | oh! I see... | 10:32 |
| mpt | carlos, judging by the last comment, the description isn't accurate, it's not quite the same as English | 10:32 |
| carlos | mpt: thanks for remembering me it | 10:32 |
| lifeless | BjornT: hmm. | 10:32 |
| mpt | oh, yes it is | 10:33 |
| jamesh | lifeless: if I'm going to do that, I'd prefer to experiment with things after the upgrade | 10:33 |
| jamesh | rather than having to do it all over again | 10:33 |
| mpt | they just have different wordings for "no chair" and "zero chairs", but then so does English | 10:33 |
| lifeless | I'd like 'needs a revisit' to show differently to 'needs its first look' | 10:33 |
| lifeless | jamesh: fair enough. Just saying is all ;) | 10:33 |
| lifeless | BjornT: what do you think? needs-review to me says very clearly 'never looked at' | 10:34 |
| jamesh | lifeless: Dell had some pretty good prices at the time -- $300 for a dual core 2.8GHz machine | 10:34 |
| lifeless | jamesh: thats seriously good | 10:34 |
| lifeless | jamesh: I was drooling over the alienware FX60 dream machine last week | 10:34 |
| jamesh | lifeless: I realise that I don't need something that good to get things working | 10:34 |
| jamesh | this is a tower case server machine though -- has no sound and on board 2D graphics, and can't take a modern 16-lane PCI-E graphics card | 10:35 |
| jamesh | i.e. designed to be difficult to set up as a desktop ... | 10:36 |
| lifeless | yeah | 10:36 |
| carlos | mpt: we don't even have that language in our database... | 10:36 |
| lifeless | I can see that | 10:36 |
| jamesh | of course, $300 for the parts isn't too bad either ... | 10:36 |
| BjornT | lifeless: in the current workflow, yes. i think he changed to needs-review since he wanted me to take a look at the whole diff again, so maybe he should have changed the date as well. | 10:36 |
| carlos | oh, we have it but with a different name | 10:37 |
| lifeless | BjornT: yeh. that would work for me | 10:37 |
| lifeless | jamesh: spiv what you think of that ? | 10:37 |
| BjornT | lifeless: i think the problem is that we have only after needs-review we have only needs-reply, in which state the review is until it's approved. maybe we should rename needs-reply to under-discussion or something like that? | 10:37 |
| lifeless | BjornT: depends what precise stats we want out | 10:39 |
| lifeless | I think needs-reply as under-discussion is a good compromise | 10:39 |
| lifeless | thought it does not put the onus on who has the next act | 10:39 |
| lifeless | which needs-review with an updated date does. | 10:40 |
| BjornT | we used to go from needs-reply to needs-review, but people often forgot to update the status, so they were often out of sync. | 10:41 |
| jamesh | lifeless: I'm not particularly attached to either needs-reply or under-discussion | 10:45 |
| jamesh | I can work with either | 10:45 |
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| tortho | Good mornig, Anyone who can tell me how & when Launchpad/Rosetta is updating against the packages. The reason why i ask is that i saw the untranslated stings had increased quite much since yesterday, and also there are lots of the pink colors on the bars. | 10:49 |
| stub | lifeless: I've got a Zope3.2 migration branch to land rs=SteveA, which also involves updating the Zope branch and the SQLOS branch. I'll be building a branch on balleny in a tick to do a final test run. | 10:54 |
| carlos | tortho: that's usually done at the same time we import the .pot files | 10:54 |
| carlos | tortho: but there are some situations when we need to associate the .po files with the .pot files | 10:54 |
| carlos | tortho: could you point me to the entries where we lack translations? | 10:55 |
| tortho | OK, It's not that we lack any translations, it's only that there are packages that was editet almost a month ago, wich still has pink color, and that yesterday, the Norwegian Bokmaal translation had Approx 133000 untranslated, and today 135000 (If I remember correctly. | 10:56 |
| lifeless | stub: righto. | 10:57 |
| lifeless | stub: disable pqm via cron | 10:57 |
| carlos | tortho: we are importing KDE atm | 10:57 |
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| lifeless | stub: then when the composite tree is ready and has passed both | 10:58 |
| lifeless | make check_merge | 10:58 |
| lifeless | and cd sourcecode && make check | 10:58 |
| carlos | tortho: as you could check the amount of already translated strings should increase too | 10:58 |
| lifeless | I will commit and push it for you | 10:58 |
| tortho | carlos: OK :-) more work.. I guess that one is increasing too... (Did only check the remaining ones...The ones that counts :-) BTW: arent the bars going to be green after the translation has been applyed...(since some of them are still pink and edited 1 month ago) | 10:59 |
| lifeless | back when I've got this drive installed | 10:59 |
| lifeless | tchau | 10:59 |
| carlos | tortho: the only way to get them green is that you submit your changes/additions to upstream and they apply them | 11:00 |
| tortho | carlos: OK, Thanks! | 11:00 |
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| dilys | Merge to devel/launchpad/: [trivial] Added Berber plural forms and linked as spoken on Morocco and Algeria to our sample data (r3450: Carlos Perello Marin) | 11:19 |
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| carlos | is there any function on launchpad that, from any string gives you another string that follows the restrictions to be used as a 'valid_name' ? | 11:45 |
| stub | carlos: not that I'm aware of | 11:52 |
| carlos | ok | 11:52 |
| carlos | thanks | 11:52 |
| jamesh | carlos: I wrote my own for the bugzilla import | 11:54 |
| jamesh | re.sub(r'[^a-z0-9\+\.\-] ', '-', string) | 11:54 |
| carlos | jamesh: could we move it to a commom place? it would be really useful to create potemplatename rows automatically from the translation domain | 11:54 |
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| carlos | jamesh: so it's not a function but an inline call... | 11:55 |
| jamesh | actually, re.sub(r'[^a-z0-9\+\.\-] ', '-', string.lower()) is what is used | 11:55 |
| jamesh | (for sanitising milestone names) | 11:55 |
| jamesh | yeah | 11:55 |
| OdyX | Hey guys. Found an error in english during translation (means, english text has an error): https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/dapper/+source/kubuntu-docs/+pots/aboutkubuntu/fr/+translate <- N9: Documenation: misses a "t" | 11:55 |
| jamesh | OdyX: I'd suggest filing a bug against kubuntu-docs | 11:56 |
| OdyX | jamesh: OK. Will be done. Thanks | 11:57 |
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| carlos | jamesh: I got it | 12:08 |
| carlos | I know I saw it | 12:08 |
| OdyX | Done. Thanks | 12:08 |
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| carlos | jamesh: helpers.getValidNameFromString | 12:09 |
| carlos | jamesh: I guess we should change it to use your solution as I think is more complete... | 12:09 |
| jamesh | carlos: that function looks like it only produces a valid name for certain bad input | 12:11 |
| carlos | right, that's why I'm going to update it with your code | 12:11 |
| jamesh | >>> from canonical.launchpad.helpers import getValidNameFromString | 12:13 |
| jamesh | >>> from canonical.launchpad.validators.name import valid_name | 12:13 |
| jamesh | >>> valid_name(getValidNameFromString('a$x5')) | 12:13 |
| jamesh | False | 12:13 |
| jamesh | carlos: my function also has a failure mode: it can result in a string that starts with a dash, which is invalid | 12:14 |
| carlos | jamesh: thank's for the test ;-) | 12:14 |
| jamesh | that could be fixed by prepending an 'x' if result[0] == '-' | 12:15 |
| carlos | jamesh: right | 12:15 |
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| Fenrir- | hello | 01:14 |
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| mpt | Hmm, PQM appears to be stuck | 01:17 |
| mpt | I've been at the head of the queue for two hours | 01:17 |
| Fenrir- | any idea how long is shipping to .fi ? | 01:19 |
| mpt | Fenrir-, if you mean for Ubuntu CDs, it's 4~6 weeks according to http://www.ubuntu.com/support/faq | 01:21 |
| Fenrir- | mpt ye , i mean those | 01:23 |
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| mithro | hi! how do I file a patch against a ubuntu package? | 02:04 |
| Kinnison | open a bug against the package and attach the patch to it? | 02:06 |
| mithro | i've never use launchpad before and am finding it a bit confusing | 02:08 |
| Kinnison | Have you got yourself a launchpad account? | 02:08 |
| tseng | do you have a specific question | 02:08 |
| mithro | gettingnow | 02:09 |
| tseng | it takes some poking around to find what you want, but it seems obvious when you are there | 02:09 |
| tseng | (usually) | 02:09 |
| mithro | click on "File a Bug on a Package"? | 02:10 |
| mithro | how do you attach patches to a bug? | 02:15 |
| Kinnison | there is 'add attachment' in the actions box | 02:15 |
| mithro | yeah found it the second after i asked | 02:20 |
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| Kinnison | :-) | 02:23 |
| mithro | submitted to patch | 02:32 |
| mithro | s/to/two | 02:36 |
| mithro | now how long till they get processed :P | 02:42 |
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| lifeless | stub: re zope 3.2 branch | 02:55 |
| lifeless | stub: it being unrelated means we lose our local change history record | 02:55 |
| lifeless | stub: and - folk downloading it will need to do more | 02:56 |
| lifeless | stub: so, I think we want to turn it into a patch in the first instance | 02:56 |
| stub | The local changes are no longer relevant if that makes a difference | 02:56 |
| stub | (except to archaeologists) | 02:56 |
| lifeless | all of them ? Testing support changes | 02:56 |
| lifeless | for instance | 02:56 |
| stub | Whole new test framework | 02:57 |
| lifeless | I'm aware of that :) | 02:57 |
| lifeless | but we have changes that may not be present in it yet | 02:57 |
| lifeless | and we either have to accept that these are lost - that we lose the features, or add them back in | 02:58 |
| stub | Did --story ever land? That is the only thing I'm aware of that we will lose, and it will need to be reimplemented anyway. | 02:58 |
| lifeless | its implemented with tests but it does not alter zope at all | 02:58 |
| lifeless | what about stop on first failure ? | 02:59 |
| stub | Some command line syntax changes that need to be documented on the wiki | 02:59 |
| stub | Hmm... | 02:59 |
| stub | For doctests? built in now. | 02:59 |
| lifeless | no, all tests. | 02:59 |
| lifeless | not stop-in-doctest-script, stop executing further tests at the end of a failing test. | 03:00 |
| lifeless | we want revno 22 | 03:00 |
| lifeless | dont need 21 | 03:00 |
| stub | Stop-on-first-test-failure will need to be reimplemented | 03:00 |
| lifeless | I presume 19 is unneeded | 03:00 |
| stub | What are you looking at? | 03:01 |
| lifeless | if the new test stuff is still vaguely pyunit compatible (it better be!) then reimplementation should be called 'merge' | 03:01 |
| lifeless | log of our branch | 03:01 |
| lifeless | 18 I presume is also unneeded | 03:01 |
| lifeless | what about the whrandom stuff ? | 03:01 |
| stub | whrandom is fixed upstream | 03:02 |
| lifeless | k | 03:02 |
| lifeless | ok | 03:02 |
| stub | I would be extremely surprised if any of the old patches still apply anyway | 03:02 |
| stub | whrandom usage is all fixed in 3.2 | 03:04 |
| lifeless | ok | 03:04 |
| lifeless | I'm turning this into a patch, please dont use or alter the zope dir for a bit | 03:04 |
| lifeless | (the patch change is to make it easier for our devs to update to this) | 03:05 |
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| lifeless | holy cow | 03:17 |
| lifeless | theres an entire copy of twisted in here ? | 03:17 |
| sladen | kiko-zzz: could you debug bug #29767 when you wake up if you get a chance | 03:18 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 29767 in linux-source-2.6.15 "IBM Thinkpad X41 suspend to disk unsatisfactory regression" [Normal,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/29767 | 03:18 |
| zorglub | is it possible to remove a branch ? | 03:29 |
| zorglub | I made some crap and registered a series with an upstream SVN as a branch | 03:29 |
| lifeless | stub: ping | 03:29 |
| stub | lifeless: pong | 03:30 |
| stub | yup - twisted | 03:30 |
| ddaa | sick and twisted? | 03:31 |
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| stub | Unfortunately not a version we can use for our other stuff :-( | 03:31 |
| stub | We are about 18 months out of sync with upstream - lots of changes | 03:32 |
| ddaa | zorglub: nope cannot delete | 03:32 |
| zorglub | k | 03:33 |
| ddaa | stub, lifeless: what is the proper way of dispose of those dud branches ATM? | 03:33 |
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| ddaa | quite a few of them around, I'm willing to put in a trivial patch to make easier to garden, but I dunno what is the actual recommended gardening operation | 03:34 |
| stub | I probably have to delete them manually until an interface gets written to do it. | 03:34 |
| zorglub | TRUNCATE TABLE :) | 03:34 |
| ddaa | deleting branches is dangerous stuff, since they are associated to on-disk data | 03:35 |
| lifeless | stub: zopeskel | 03:35 |
| lifeless | whats it for ? | 03:35 |
| lifeless | we are ignoring it which means it will be imported | 03:35 |
| lifeless | stub: having two copies of zope - wont that fuck things ? | 03:35 |
| ddaa | zorglub: what is the launchpad page of the faulty branch? | 03:36 |
| zorglub | https://launchpad.net/people/zorglub/+branch/manager/devel | 03:36 |
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| ddaa | stub: delete from Branch where id=1117; | 03:42 |
| stub | lifeless: I'm not sure what it is for. | 03:42 |
| stub | zopeskel sounds like stuff generated by the build step | 03:43 |
| stub | Hmm... looks like the template used for creating a Z3 instance, which we don't do (we just run inplace) | 03:45 |
| lifeless | should we version it or not ? | 03:45 |
| stub | Sure - it is part of the Zope tree, and stuff may depend on it being there. | 03:46 |
| stub | It isn't generated - it is in the upstream SVN repository | 03:46 |
| stub | ddaa: I should run that now? | 03:47 |
| ddaa | yup | 03:48 |
| ddaa | this kind of dud branch can be safely removed without second thought | 03:48 |
| stub | ddaa: Gone | 03:48 |
| ddaa | if there's any revision history or bug associated with it, you'd get a foreign key error. | 03:49 |
| ddaa | zorglub: et voil | 03:49 |
| zorglub | ok, thx | 03:51 |
| ddaa | mpt: ping | 03:54 |
| lifeless | stub: ok, we have a new tree | 04:10 |
| stub | eh? | 04:11 |
| sabdfl | stub: are you happy with the add-series-drivers patch? | 04:12 |
| sabdfl | stub: am stepping afk for a while, will you mail me if you have any issues? am aiming to land asap | 04:13 |
| sabdfl | thanks | 04:13 |
| stub | sabdfl: I haven't looked at it yet | 04:13 |
| stub | sabdfl: ok | 04:14 |
| sabdfl | thanks | 04:14 |
| sabdfl | kiko-zzz: unzzz... | 04:14 |
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| lifeless | stub: we have a tree based on the previous, so 'pull' will work | 04:16 |
| lifeless | stub: but with your content | 04:16 |
| stub | ok | 04:16 |
| stub | is it still rocketfuel/zope/3.0/test ? bzr log doesn't show any changes | 04:17 |
| lifeless | not yet | 04:18 |
| lifeless | tests/launchpad/sourcecode/zop | 04:18 |
| lifeless | e | 04:18 |
| lifeless | ready to flick the switch on this ? | 04:22 |
| lifeless | have we done all the production updates we need to for a day or two to let this bed in ? | 04:22 |
| stub | lifeless: I've already tagged production release before this | 04:26 |
| stub | lifeless: I think we should flip the switch | 04:26 |
| lifeless | ok | 04:26 |
| lifeless | should we change the zope branch | 04:26 |
| lifeless | i.e. put this in zope/3.2 | 04:26 |
| lifeless | rather than zope/3.0/testing | 04:26 |
| lifeless | we'll obviously need to update the config | 04:26 |
| lifeless | configs | 04:26 |
| lifeless | but this lets us leave the production config pointing at 3.0 until we do a prod rollout with this branch | 04:27 |
| stub | People are manually entering the pull's rather than using config manager at the moment | 04:27 |
| stub | I haven't built the production tree yet, so that would be good ;) | 04:27 |
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| lifeless | ddaa: config_manager.UrlMapper | 04:28 |
| stub | ddaa: Do you also hack it so the tree doesn't need to live in a directory called 'launchpad' ? | 04:28 |
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| ddaa | stub: nope | 04:29 |
| ddaa | lifeless: good to know the functionality is there, but CM is something that I'm mostly interested into getting out the way when I want to build a production tree. | 04:29 |
| ddaa | and when I do not want to build a production tree, I just do not need it | 04:30 |
| lifeless | sure | 04:30 |
| ddaa | I just hope nested trees support in bzr will be implemented soon | 04:30 |
| lifeless | not for a year or so | 04:30 |
| ddaa | *sigh* | 04:30 |
| lifeless | I have not had time to implement the prerequisite specs and the beta for dapper needs to lock down in 4 days | 04:31 |
| ddaa | I certainly do not mean for 0.8 | 04:31 |
| lifeless | so with data format stability, you'll need to wait for a new default format before launchpad changes | 04:31 |
| lifeless | which is ~ one year out | 04:31 |
| lifeless | ok rf/zope/3.2 exists | 04:33 |
| lifeless | you'll need to update that configs before anything notices that | 04:33 |
| lifeless | care to sqlos updated | 04:34 |
| salgado | lifeless, how do I reconcile one of my branches? | 04:34 |
| lifeless | carefully | 04:34 |
| stub | that last in english? | 04:34 |
| lifeless | meh | 04:34 |
| lifeless | stub: can you edit configs and send in a merge for that ? | 04:35 |
| stub | Sure | 04:35 |
| lifeless | salgado: ECYCLES. ask in #bzr please or I'll lose the plot here and we'll be fucked | 04:35 |
| stub | lifeless: pushed. There is already a pqm request for my configs branch to land (production 1.58 config) | 04:37 |
| lifeless | thanks | 04:38 |
| lifeless | stub: you said 'zope/3.2' rather than 'zope/3.0/tests' right ? | 04:39 |
| stub | Yes | 04:39 |
| lifeless | ok | 04:39 |
| lifeless | main branch is merging at the moment | 04:39 |
| lifeless | I'm going to | 04:39 |
| lifeless | - commit that | 04:39 |
| lifeless | move your patch to the front of the queue | 04:39 |
| lifeless | enable pqm | 04:39 |
| lifeless | watch the fireworks | 04:39 |
| stub | yay | 04:40 |
| stub | I guess I should document specifying the layer of your tests as that will bite people. Other that than I'm hoping things will be fairly smooth. | 04:41 |
| lifeless | we need to document that: | 04:41 |
| lifeless | if people are pulling from chinstrap by hand they need the new location of zope | 04:42 |
| lifeless | that stop early has been removed and we'd like it reimplemented | 04:42 |
| lifeless | stub: so there were three deletes and that was all ? | 04:44 |
| lifeless | ~never mind I was on crack | 04:45 |
| lifeless | or was I. this is too late for me. | 04:45 |
| lifeless | ok | 04:46 |
| lifeless | lp is done | 04:46 |
| lifeless | lets see what happens | 04:47 |
| stub | sqlos too? | 04:51 |
| lifeless | done | 04:52 |
| lifeless | meh, I forgot. | 04:56 |
| lifeless | I fixed the queue ordering a while back | 04:56 |
| lifeless | grumble | 04:56 |
| lifeless | your patch will be along soon | 04:56 |
| lifeless | have you removed pytz from the config | 04:56 |
| lifeless | ? | 04:56 |
| lifeless | and the symlink in lib ? | 04:57 |
| stub | oops... pytz | 04:57 |
| stub | symlink is gone thuogh | 04:57 |
| lifeless | what else | 04:57 |
| lifeless | this twisted thing worries me | 04:57 |
| lifeless | we have apps that import twisted and zope. how do they get the twisted they need without breaking zope ? | 04:57 |
| stub | size, or what in particular? | 04:57 |
| lifeless | two copies of different code in the same namespace | 04:58 |
| stub | It may be a problem when we try to get Zope using twisted (it is still using the old code - twisted is optional in 3.2) | 04:59 |
| spiv | lifeless: The version in sourcecode ought to be fine for Zope 3.2 and our stuff, I think. | 04:59 |
| stub | So we can deal with it then. Hopefully by standardizing on a twisted release. | 04:59 |
| lifeless | ok | 05:00 |
| lifeless | can we make sure the version in sourcecode is first on the path ? | 05:00 |
| stub | Z3 upstream is componentizing stuff too, so it will hopefully disappear from upstream SVN | 05:00 |
| lifeless | or better yet, just delete :) | 05:00 |
| stub | It is the only version in the path - sourcecode/zope/src/twisted is not linked anywhere accessible | 05:01 |
| lifeless | ok. phew. | 05:01 |
| BjornT | lifeless, stub: my pqm merge failed since pytz couldn't be imported. is that a known problem? | 05:05 |
| stub | BjornT: Your branch was an innocent bystander. Please resubmit it. | 05:05 |
| BjornT | ok | 05:06 |
| salgado | stub, what about the one that's being processed right now? | 05:07 |
| lifeless | it will fail | 05:08 |
| stub | salgado: It will fail too. They will all fail until my config changes land. | 05:08 |
| lifeless | please watch this channel | 05:08 |
| lifeless | if we go 'woo its done' then resubmit | 05:08 |
| lifeless | same for you bjornt | 05:09 |
| salgado | okay | 05:09 |
| lifeless | we will want a test branch up | 05:09 |
| lifeless | which looks to be the mirror-management branch | 05:09 |
| BjornT | okay, i already resubmitted it though, since stub said that i should. | 05:10 |
| lifeless | stub: did you get a confirmation mail ? | 05:11 |
| stub | Ahh bite me. Conflicts. | 05:15 |
| ddaa | okay, new rule: do not hyperlink bzr branch urls in Launchpad | 05:15 |
| ddaa | that will make it harder for people to go to a place where there's nothing to see | 05:15 |
| === lifeless munches | ||
| === stub merge | ||
| === stub merges | ||
| === stub commits, pushes, and submits | ||
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| sabdfl | hey lunchpadders | 05:22 |
| stub | lifeless: success | 05:25 |
| kiko | hello sabdfl | 05:27 |
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| kiko | you have mail (shortly) | 05:27 |
| ddaa | phew | 05:27 |
| ddaa | just posted bazaar-ui for review | 05:28 |
| sabdfl | kiko! | 05:28 |
| sabdfl | ddaa: that's great news, did you find a solution to the URL question? | 05:28 |
| lifeless | stub: ok. trees are ready for it | 05:28 |
| lifeless | BjornT: can you resubmit please | 05:29 |
| ddaa | sabdfl: did not dig much. Made it class=lesser, with a layout that allows it to wrap into taking the full width of the column. | 05:29 |
| ddaa | sabdfl: I think it would be nice to make this page two-columns, that would help displaying the recent history table. | 05:30 |
| ddaa | well, and that would also help the URL problem, there's really no good solution to it. The URLs must be displayed in full text and not hyperlinked. Hyperlinking to a non-browsable resource is asking for people to complain. | 05:31 |
| BjornT | lifeless: sure | 05:32 |
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| sabdfl | ddaa: the url can streth beyond two columns anyway | 05:35 |
| kiko | sabdfl, sent. | 05:36 |
| ddaa | sabdfl: these urls are meant to be typed by users in a terminal, if they get too long, the user should probably take steps to fix them. | 05:36 |
| ddaa | but the two columns layout really help mitigate any problem, if they are too long, they just run past the right edge. I am convinced we cannot do any better. | 05:37 |
| ddaa | Really, I do not like it much, but any other solution is just asking for people to report bugs. | 05:38 |
| ddaa | "clicked on the link, but there was nothing to see" | 05:39 |
| sabdfl | kiko-fud: thanks for being tolerant of the nuclear option here ;-) | 05:39 |
| ddaa | "where is the branch URL displayed?" | 05:39 |
| ddaa | "where is the supermirror URL display" | 05:39 |
| kiko-fud | sabdfl, what "nuclear" option?! | 05:39 |
| stub | sabdfl: That db patch looks fine once you move the comments to comments.sql. patch-40-48-0.sql | 05:39 |
| lifeless | stub: its looking good | 05:40 |
| ddaa | "copy pasted url to bzr, but it did not work" (because of invisible chars to allow line wrapping) | 05:40 |
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| sabdfl | kiko-fud: the huge patch. i agree, splitting is better, but then it takes more time, and i'm afraid there's a limit to the time i can devote to this | 05:43 |
| kiko-fud | I know | 05:43 |
| kiko-fud | but I chide you anyway :) | 05:44 |
| sabdfl | i want to make a few changes to rosetta that will be relatively contained, and then i have to write that support-providers-tracker | 05:44 |
| kiko-fud | yeah | 05:44 |
| kiko-fud | let me have lunch my eyeballs are rolling | 05:44 |
| sabdfl | stub: thanks | 05:44 |
| lifeless | ddaa: is that patch one that needs mpt to do ? | 05:44 |
| lifeless | ddaa: or is it any reviewer ? | 05:44 |
| kiko-fud | stub, did we roll out? email on revision level if so please :) | 05:44 |
| ddaa | lifeless: Any reviewer will do, but it would be nice for mpt to have a look. | 05:45 |
| stub | kiko-fud: Just finishing the Z3.2 patch push. I want to put off the production update until tomorrow unless you are going to cry - it is getting late and elmo and Znarl can't make use of the downtime window today. | 05:45 |
| kiko-fud | stub, that's fine. | 05:45 |
| kiko-fud | DO IT | 05:45 |
| lifeless | ddaa: if you want mpt to review things, you gotta put it in the ui queue on the pending reviews | 05:46 |
| lifeless | page | 05:46 |
| stub | kiko-fud: I've already tagged the branch - r3438 as discussed | 05:46 |
| lifeless | ddaa: can you please do that, and also put it in spivs queue for review tomorrow | 05:46 |
| kiko-fud | stub, perfect. appreciated. | 05:46 |
| ddaa | lifeless: done | 05:48 |
| ddaa | now, lunch! | 05:48 |
| lifeless | ddaa: thanks | 05:48 |
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| sabdfl | kiko-fud: i deliberately did not try to pre-factor all the .specifications() methods to a common codebase, because i wanted to see how much variation there is | 05:55 |
| sabdfl | now that it's done, i can go back later and consolidate, and it should all fall out quite neatly | 05:55 |
| sabdfl | will add doctests for them in the interim, which will be useful during the refactoring | 05:56 |
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| stub | BjornT: Your landing fail due to conflicts, broken tests, or something we need to worry about? | 06:02 |
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| lifeless | test failures | 06:04 |
| lifeless | question is - 3.2 related or not | 06:04 |
| BjornT | stub: broken tests, it seems to be pytz related. i'll forward you and lifeless the failure email. | 06:05 |
| kiko-fud | thanks sabdfl | 06:06 |
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| seb128 | hi | 06:06 |
| kiko-fud | (but use email to reply :) | 06:06 |
| seb128 | carlos: around? :) | 06:06 |
| kiko | hello seb128 | 06:06 |
| ddaa | hi seb128 | 06:06 |
| carlos | seb128: hi | 06:06 |
| seb128 | hey kiko | 06:06 |
| ddaa | seb128: monday is a day off | 06:06 |
| seb128 | friday too for me ;) | 06:06 |
| ddaa | right, alsacian thing? | 06:07 |
| seb128 | alsace-moselle yep | 06:07 |
| lifeless | stub: I think its down to fine tuning | 06:08 |
| lifeless | stub: if you need me to roll it all back, SMS me, I'll have the phone nearby | 06:08 |
| lifeless | but its 2am now | 06:09 |
| stub | ok | 06:09 |
| seb128 | carlos: what about locking a po edition when somebody starts working on it, and send a diff of his changes somewhere when he has done his changes on it | 06:09 |
| seb128 | carlos: what do you think about the idea? Would it be easy to implement? :) | 06:09 |
| seb128 | carlos: I think it would make quality control much easier and make that people don't conflict which is good too | 06:09 |
| carlos | seb128: we already talk about that sometime ago | 06:11 |
| carlos | to implement a kind of wiki lock | 06:11 |
| seb128 | we, like me and you? | 06:11 |
| seb128 | if that's the case I don't remember it :) | 06:11 |
| carlos | seb128: no, we as the launchpad/rosetta team | 06:11 |
| seb128 | ah | 06:11 |
| seb128 | and did you decide that was a good idea? | 06:12 |
| seb128 | the "mail the diff" to a list would be really really useful | 06:12 |
| carlos | I thought we had a spec on it already (braindump) but I don't see it so I don't think we wrote down any idea | 06:12 |
| lifeless | stub: gnight then | 06:12 |
| seb128 | it would be easy to do probably | 06:12 |
| carlos | seb128: the diff part is new, the lock concept is not | 06:12 |
| seb128 | and makes possible to control who do good or not translations with rosetta | 06:12 |
| seb128 | I just had the idea yesterday after reading the mail from rosetta-users list forwarded to the l10n-fr list | 06:13 |
| seb128 | or maybe today :p | 06:13 |
| carlos | seb128: I need to take sometime to answer that thread as it raises some interesting points | 06:13 |
| carlos | about the diff thing, how are you going to approve/reject the changes? | 06:13 |
| seb128 | that would make easy for people to comment on what is changed dynamically | 06:13 |
| seb128 | and know who does what | 06:13 |
| seb128 | I didn't read that | 06:13 |
| seb128 | I'm not on rosetta-users list | 06:14 |
| seb128 | I'll go and read it | 06:14 |
| seb128 | just a french guy forwarded it to the french list to discuss how we should work to get better quality | 06:14 |
| seb128 | and having that lock with a mail of the diff when you unlock looks very good to me :) | 06:15 |
| seb128 | it allows other people to spot wrong changes and to know who does good or bad work | 06:15 |
| seb128 | and to takes measures when somebody does wrongly | 06:15 |
| seb128 | like put him on probation and fix what he did | 06:15 |
| seb128 | it makes proofreading easy too if you send those diff on a list, subscriber can have a second look of what just changed and spot errors or comments if required | 06:16 |
| carlos | seb128: I see that point | 06:16 |
| carlos | but I still have the question about how to integrate the changes if you accept them | 06:16 |
| seb128 | you don't have to accept them | 06:17 |
| carlos | will it be an 'accept all or nothing?' | 06:17 |
| seb128 | the guy does the changes | 06:17 |
| seb128 | if somebody spot they are wrong he goes to fix them on rosetta | 06:17 |
| seb128 | and the guy translator status can be put on hold | 06:17 |
| carlos | oh, so you mean to do exactly the same thing we have atm | 06:17 |
| carlos | but additionally, provide that diff output? | 06:17 |
| seb128 | yep | 06:17 |
| seb128 | send the diff on a list | 06:17 |
| seb128 | so we know who change what immediatly | 06:18 |
| carlos | that's easy to implement, we already talked about a diff like output | 06:18 |
| seb128 | and we can spot bad translators directly | 06:18 |
| carlos | is not exactly that, but is quite similar | 06:18 |
| seb128 | and help them to improve | 06:18 |
| seb128 | fix errors, etc | 06:18 |
| seb128 | cool | 06:18 |
| seb128 | should I open a bug, do a spec, or what...? :) | 06:19 |
| carlos | seb128: I think the right procedure would be do a spec | 06:19 |
| stub | lifeless: You still there? There are a number of zero byte __init__.py files in zope/src/pytz/zoneinfo and below that are not in the rocketfuel/zope/3.2 branch | 06:19 |
| kiko | bradb, bug 39118 is a dupe of a bug of yours | 06:19 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 39118 in malone "bugs by category links do not all work" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/39118 | 06:19 |
| seb128 | is that likely to be implemented soon if you like the idea? ;) | 06:19 |
| seb128 | we could really use a way to know who does what | 06:20 |
| carlos | seb128: well, we have a priority problem here | 06:20 |
| carlos | I think I just reached a point where I need to talk with kiko | 06:20 |
| carlos | and prioritize my tasks | 06:20 |
| kiko | carlos, but not now, give me 30m :) | 06:20 |
| carlos | they are exploding | 06:21 |
| seb128 | carlos: what is top priority on your list after having dapper imported and ready to translate? | 06:21 |
| carlos | kiko: not sure we should talk about this just before leaving for holidays... I think is better if we have a meeting about it next Tuesday.... | 06:21 |
| carlos | seb128: finish PoMsgSetPage implementation (improves the way you can review translations) | 06:22 |
| carlos | seb128: and generate firefox .po files | 06:22 |
| seb128 | k, so that diff stuff is not for know | 06:23 |
| seb128 | I understand you are busy, not easy | 06:23 |
| kiko | right | 06:23 |
| seb128 | keep the good job :) | 06:23 |
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| carlos | seb128: yeah, I have a lot of things to do, it's just a matter of start with the most important ones | 06:24 |
| carlos | seb128: thanks | 06:24 |
| salgado | BjornT, around? | 06:24 |
| BjornT | salgado: yeah | 06:25 |
| salgado | BjornT, is it not advisable to have a view which inherits from both AddView and LaunchpadView? | 06:26 |
| salgado | (I'm trying to do that and am having some problems) | 06:26 |
| elmo | bzr: ERROR: exceptions.OSError: [Errno 12] Cannot allocate memory | 06:28 |
| elmo | *sigh* | 06:28 |
| BjornT | salgado: no, it causes some problems. we'll probably make AddView a LaunchpadView later though. | 06:28 |
| kiko | elmo, you need 1gig, or swap | 06:28 |
| stub | BjornT: Please resubmit that merge | 06:29 |
| BjornT | ok | 06:29 |
| elmo | kiko: that's insane | 06:30 |
| kiko | you merge-killers | 06:30 |
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| salgado | BjornT, do you have time for another one? ;) | 06:45 |
| salgado | (another quick question) | 06:45 |
| BjornT | salgado: sure | 06:45 |
| carlos | did zope 3.2 land into rocketfuel? | 06:45 |
| salgado | BjornT, I'm doing a response.redirect(canonical_url(self.context)) on a view's render() method | 06:46 |
| salgado | and that's giving me a NoCanonicalUrl: No url for <LoginToken at 0x-4a5b70f4> because <LoginToken at 0x-4a5b70f4> broke the chain. | 06:46 |
| kiko | stub, stop breaking my merges! | 06:47 |
| salgado | BjornT, I guess I understand why the publisher is raising that, but I don't think it's correct in this case, because the URL for the view that I'm in is not the same as canonical_url(self.context) | 06:48 |
| BjornT | salgado: i'm not quite sure i'm following, isn't the problem simply that there's no canonical url defined for ILoginToken? | 06:50 |
| salgado | omg. I got it completely wrong. I was sure there was a canonical url defined for ILoginToken | 06:51 |
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| salgado | there was one for ILoginTokenSet but not for ILoginToken. :-( | 06:54 |
| dilys | Merge to devel/launchpad/: [trivial] fix bug 38020, make sure the description isn't duplicated when sending bug notification to new bug contacts subscribed to a bug. (r3452: Bjorn Tillenius) | 06:57 |
| sabdfl | stub: did you give me a db patch number for that baby? | 06:59 |
| sabdfl | 48 - got it | 06:59 |
| mdz | bradb: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/ltsp/+bugs has an "all bugs ever reported (13)" link, but clicking on it shows only the same 5 bugs | 07:01 |
| mdz | bradb: same for other packages, it seems | 07:02 |
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| stub | Yay. Z3.2 branch is usable. | 07:08 |
| bradb | mdz: Yeah, this is bug 33882. | 07:08 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 33882 in malone "Critical bugs are listed as 8 in the side bar, but there actually aren't any" [Normal,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/33882 | 07:08 |
| bradb | kiko: maybe this bug should be high priority for matsubara? it's pretty annoying, in any case. | 07:09 |
| stub | Emails have been sent to launchpad@ mailing list explaining what people need to update and detailing some changes to the test runner. | 07:10 |
| mdz | bradb: that bug seems to indicate that the behaviour is intended and only the number is wrong | 07:11 |
| mdz | bradb: so how do I get a list of all bugs ever reported (including closed bugs)? | 07:11 |
| mdz | oh, I see in the final comment. I agree with jamesh | 07:12 |
| bradb | mdz: A hack workaround for now is to use the Advanced Search, e.g., https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/ltsp/+bugs?advanced=1&field.searchtext=&search=Search+bugs+in+ltsp+in+ubuntu&orderby=-priority%2C-severity&field.status%3Alist=Unconfirmed&field.status%3Alist=Needs+Info&field.status%3Alist=Rejected&field.status%3Alist=Confirmed&field.status%3Alist=In+Progress&field.status%3Alist=Fix+Committed&field.status%3Alist=Fix+Rel | 07:12 |
| bradb | holy #&@t | 07:12 |
| carlos | stub: https://chinstrap.ubuntu.com/~dsilvers/paste/filetFpYge.html | 07:25 |
| carlos | stub: It's a new branch | 07:25 |
| stub | carlos: How did you create the branch? | 07:27 |
| carlos | rocketfuel-get | 07:27 |
| carlos | and cp -a | 07:27 |
| stub | What is rocketfuel-get? | 07:27 |
| carlos | stub: a script that I think jblack wrote and that it's in our wiki | 07:28 |
| stub | What does it do? | 07:28 |
| carlos | to fetch rocketfuel-built tree from chinstrap | 07:28 |
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| carlos | stub: https://wiki.launchpad.canonical.com/RocketFuelSetup <- You have that script there | 07:29 |
| stub | carlos: looks like it rsyncs rocketfuel-built/launchpad from chinstrap | 07:30 |
| carlos | yeah, that's the idea | 07:31 |
| stub | carlos: The tree looks broken at the moment - I'll force an update that should fix it. | 07:31 |
| carlos | stub: I don't see your zope3.2 changes at arch-commits mailing list | 07:31 |
| carlos | stub: are you sure you got your patch accepted? | 07:31 |
| stub | It was landed directly - not via pqm | 07:32 |
| stub | Oh... its rebuilding itself right now anyway | 07:32 |
| carlos | ok | 07:32 |
| stub | carlos: done | 07:40 |
| === bradb & # accountant, bbiab | ||
| carlos | stub: cool, thanks | 07:46 |
| dilys | Merge to devel/launchpad/: [trivial] Change package searching to use consistent page layout throughout (r3453: kiko) | 07:48 |
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| kiko | yay | 08:25 |
| kiko | carlos, so we have a new zope in da house? | 08:25 |
| carlos | kiko: yeah | 08:25 |
| kiko | does it rock? does it roll? | 08:25 |
| carlos | working on my code changes... hadn't time to play with it :-P | 08:26 |
| kiko | am I brave enough to update my tree? | 08:26 |
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| carlos | kiko: I'm working on a new tree | 08:27 |
| carlos | not sure if the update is 100% without pain | 08:27 |
| kiko | I love pain | 08:27 |
| jordi | mdke: hey, this is a cool thread you've started | 08:29 |
| === jordi replies. | ||
| kiko | mdke is a sharp dude | 08:30 |
| kiko | sharper than most | 08:30 |
| jordi | kiko: dude | 08:30 |
| dilys | Merge to devel/launchpad/: Fix https://launchpad.net/products/malone/+bug/39012 (Report a bug in a non reported context using Also Needs Fixing Here button causes an OOPS) r=kiko (r3454: Diogo Matsubara) | 08:30 |
| kiko | bug 3942 | 08:30 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 3942 in launchpad "Present search results instead of NotFound pages" [Wishlist,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/3942 | 08:30 |
| carlos | mdke, jordi: I will answer too, just need some time to prepare my answer, but yes, mdke, thanks for your email | 08:31 |
| jordi | hmm, no stevea | 08:31 |
| carlos | jordi: he's on vacation | 08:34 |
| kiko | but I am here and I am worth 3/5ths of a stevea | 08:35 |
| jordi | oh | 08:35 |
| carlos | :-D | 08:35 |
| jordi | kiko: but I need the STEVEA | 08:35 |
| kiko | you need 5/5ths? wow | 08:35 |
| jordi | kiko: his brain stores some s3kr1t discussion I had with him a few weeks ago | 08:36 |
| jordi | in London | 08:36 |
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| mdke | jordi, carlos, thanks | 09:15 |
| mdke | kiko, thanks too | 09:15 |
| dilys | Merge to devel/launchpad/: r=salgado, Add package test set for soyuz and initial test for the quick patch I made a while ago (r3455: Daniel Silverstone) | 09:17 |
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| kiko | bradb, all quiet today? | 09:28 |
| bradb | kiko: just got back from the accountant | 09:32 |
| kiko | ah, I see | 09:32 |
| kiko | tax month | 09:32 |
| kiko | for me too | 09:32 |
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| spacey | whats a bounty subscriber? | 09:52 |
| spacey | if you just want to get the latest comments | 09:52 |
| spacey | or does it directly mean you want to do the job (which i don't want to) | 09:52 |
| spacey | its not really clear to me | 09:53 |
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| kiko | it is somebody who is going to be annoyed by the fact that bounties are only half-implemented ;) | 10:00 |
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| spacey | kiko: hehe | 10:07 |
| kiko | spacey, at least I'm honest | 10:07 |
| spacey | yeah thats great | 10:08 |
| spacey | i just wanted to follow the discussion on a bounty | 10:08 |
| kiko | there's been talk of working on it again, but right now they are a bit of a black hole | 10:08 |
| spacey | but i don't want to take some accidental reponsibility | 10:08 |
| kiko | that probably wouldn't be the case | 10:08 |
| spacey | ok | 10:09 |
| spacey | seems there is some spam on the bounty page as well | 10:09 |
| sabdfl | kiko: thanks for the review, response on its way. have address most of the nits, will add some tests, but am not going to refactor in this round | 10:10 |
| sabdfl | i planned to do it in two stages | 10:10 |
| kiko | does this second stage have a date? | 10:11 |
| sabdfl | once to cargo cult and figure out all the different kinds of filtering and sorting | 10:11 |
| kiko | or an assignee? ;-) | 10:11 |
| sabdfl | then to refactor | 10:11 |
| sabdfl | well | 10:11 |
| sabdfl | do you know anybody else who loves the spec tracker as much as me? | 10:11 |
| sabdfl | remember, i want to get that right so it can be a pattern that is reused elsewhere | 10:11 |
| kiko | low blow. okay, I can do it. | 10:11 |
| sabdfl | no, not you | 10:11 |
| sabdfl | i'll do it, but it will have to wait | 10:11 |
| kiko | well, we'll see how it goes | 10:13 |
| kiko | if it ends up being something which generates maintenence it will end up being refactored | 10:13 |
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| kiko | BjornT, comment on bug 34105? | 10:23 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 34105 in malone "Strip leading and trailing whitespace before storing a bug watch's remotebug in the db" [Normal,In progress] http://launchpad.net/bugs/34105 | 10:23 |
| BjornT | kiko: hmm, i thought i already commented on that one, maybe it was a reply to a mailing list post. i'll add a comment. | 10:27 |
| matsubara | kiko: I started to fix that in the sprint. I have a branch with halfway the fix in it. | 10:27 |
| kiko | thanks | 10:27 |
| kiko | ah, cool | 10:27 |
| kiko | sabdfl, note that tal:define does /not/ work | 10:30 |
| kiko | sabdfl, you can't use that to avoid reselecting -- it will happen anyway. the only thing you can do is listifying. | 10:31 |
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| sabdfl | kiko: the flush_database_updates thing | 10:37 |
| sabdfl | in some places, i need to get direct access to the SQLResult | 10:37 |
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| sabdfl | because I need to bang its query again | 10:37 |
| kiko | in the view code?! | 10:37 |
| sabdfl | yes | 10:37 |
| kiko | oh that is gross | 10:37 |
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| kiko | but wait | 10:37 |
| sabdfl | me too, i tried a number of alternatives | 10:38 |
| kiko | I see. | 10:38 |
| sabdfl | i could go back in there and try again with more sleep next time around | 10:38 |
| sabdfl | but not this time | 10:38 |
| kiko | you'll add performance problems that I fixed | 10:38 |
| kiko | I guess I'll just fix them again | 10:38 |
| sabdfl | this is where the view code is explicitly modifying the list | 10:38 |
| kiko | yeah, I see what you mean. | 10:39 |
| sabdfl | so, where we are approving specs to be targeted to a list | 10:39 |
| kiko | I think you can avoid using the same API | 10:39 |
| sabdfl | series/distrorelease | 10:39 |
| sabdfl | i want to detect when we have approved/declined all of them, at that point redirect away from that page | 10:39 |
| kiko | avoid using the API in those two places | 10:39 |
| sabdfl | so you get a nice effect | 10:39 |
| sabdfl | you approve, decline, approve, using the multiple selector | 10:39 |
| sabdfl | and the moment you have done them all, you redirect to the main page | 10:40 |
| sabdfl | listing the approved specs | 10:40 |
| sabdfl | to do that, i need to be able to flush updates, and try the query again | 10:40 |
| sabdfl | now, i could do that in the db code | 10:40 |
| sabdfl | which would in fact be cleaner, you are right | 10:40 |
| sabdfl | ISpecificationGoal.approveSpecs(user, speclist) | 10:40 |
| sabdfl | => return the number of specs still proposed | 10:40 |
| sabdfl | when that's zero, redirect | 10:41 |
| sabdfl | this would at least contain the db flushing inside the chinese wall | 10:41 |
| kiko | well, you still need to preserve the filter if you are... oh, if that's all that needs to be done, then yes. | 10:41 |
| kiko | right, reusing specs() for that is evil. | 10:41 |
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| bradb | kiko: going through some bugmail while bzr'ing. maybe bug 2796 should be a priority? | 10:49 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 2796 in malone "Remove constraint on marking duplicates of duplicates" [Normal,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/2796 | 10:49 |
| kiko | bradb, not yet -- when we have the current priorities sorted | 10:49 |
| bradb | ok | 10:50 |
| dilys | Merge to devel/launchpad/: [trivial] Fix https://launchpad.net/products/launchpad/+bug/38256 (Mirror prober doesn't know how to generate the filename for binary packages whose version starts with <some-number>:) (r3456: Guilherme Salgado) | 10:58 |
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| carlos | fuck | 11:26 |
| carlos | tests are failing due I'm not using english locale.... | 11:27 |
| carlos | grrrr | 11:27 |
| dilys | Merge to devel/launchpad/: [trivial] Fix for bug 39060: Sorting should be done in numerical order for numerical columns. This already half-worked, but unfortunately ts_innerText() may return strings that contain leading or trailing whitespace and the match algorithm we use didn't take that into account; now it does. (r3457: kiko) | 11:32 |
| kiko | yay yay yay | 11:41 |
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