[12:09] good night [12:09] Merge to devel/launchpad/: r=BjornT,carlos rs=SteveA Fix LIKE/ILIKE queries that were incorrectly using quote() instead of quote_like. Also fix uses of urljoin that should have been urlappends. Delintifies in places (r3447: kiko) [12:10] good night [12:10] yay [12:44] moin [12:47] morning lifeless [12:59] coding policy question === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #launchpad [01:00] I want to define a method/function that computes a sort key for a branch, for use in the various branch listing pages in Launchpad [01:00] Where should I put that? [01:01] Some options: staticmethod in database.Branch, staticmethod in database.BranchSet, top-level function in interfaces.branch [01:01] none of those makes me particularly happy [01:02] lifeless: ? [01:02] Mh... could be a method in database.Branch, as well... [01:02] lifeless: thank you [01:03] well... not very good either, since it's a view thing... should not be in the content class === ddaa decides against factoring it out === mdke_ [n=matt@ubuntu/member/mdke] has joined #launchpad [01:06] hi [01:06] ddaa: does it return a key from one Branch, or from many ? [01:07] x [01:07] branch -> sort key [01:07] mental note: stop leaning on laptop === mdke_ is now known as mdke [01:07] for use as sorted(branches, key=sort_key_function) [01:09] ok [01:09] then its really something you get from a single branch [01:09] why would it live anywhere else than Branch ? [01:09] because Branch is the content class, and that's view logic. [01:10] view logic is the browser set of classes [01:11] but ... [01:11] maybe a top-level method in browser.branch? [01:11] s/method/function/ [01:11] that sounds like a method that any type of presentation could use [01:11] yes [01:11] so its not so ugly to put it in the content class [01:12] which is where I think a lot of the sort_key logic done today goes. [01:12] currently trying to convince myself I can make a sort key that works for all views... [01:12] there was a discussion on launchpad@ beween mark and steve recently about a case of this. [01:13] maybe (product, status, author, name, owner) [01:13] okay... I'll factor it out [01:14] Mh... the annoying bit is that it's hard to specify an attribute as sort key... need to use a lambda [01:15] operator [01:15] ? [01:15] sorted(branches, key=operator.attrgetter('sort_key')) [01:16] sorted(branches, key=lambda b: b.sort_key) [01:16] ugh [01:16] methink lambda is still less ugly! === sabdfl [n=mark@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has joined #launchpad [01:41] kiko-zzz: dude, i'm too late right? === fireglow [i=fireglow@fnetworks.de] has joined #launchpad === fireglow [i=fireglow@fnetworks.de] has joined #launchpad === sabdfl [n=mark@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has left #launchpad [] === fireglow [i=fireglow@irssi.eu] has joined #launchpad === mdke_ [n=matt@ubuntu/member/mdke] has joined #launchpad === hendry [n=hendry@222.106.128.34] has joined #launchpad [03:46] how do i see bugs i'm subscribed ? === stub [n=stub@ppp-58.8.7.12.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #launchpad === hannosch [i=hannosch@e176113228.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #launchpad === jd_ [n=jd@wikipedia/Meanos] has joined #launchpad [04:17] hendry: https://launchpad.net/people//+subscribedbugs [04:21] spiv: thanks === hendry [n=hendry@222.106.128.34] has left #launchpad [] [04:32] Merge to devel/launchpad/: [trivial] Decruft (unused) date widget example (r3448: Stuart Bishop) [04:35] lifeless: this might be another option for getting SIP working: http://people.netfilter.org/chentschel/docs/sip-conntrack-nat.html [04:35] without siproxd [04:42] jamesh: if you like kernel crashes [04:43] jamesh: the divmod guys have tried that, and apparently you play roulette with your kernel on every sip packet, [04:43] besides - theres no need for kernel involvement. [04:44] should be possible to redirect sip (5060) packets to siproxd with iptables, and have siproxd inject 'active connection' records into iptables as needed [04:44] no way does this belong in kernel space :) [04:47] lifeless: is it that just an issue with the particular module, or the approach in general? [04:48] that module is apparently a flakey pos [04:48] but sip is complex. putting in the kernel is a bad idea in general [04:48] s/in/it in [04:51] got to go buy more disk storage for my home server. bbiab [04:52] lifeless: http://siproxd.sourceforge.net/siproxd_guide/siproxd_guide_c6s4.html <- I guess siproxd can already do the transparent proxying trick [04:53] looks like [04:53] not quite complete though [04:53] this rule [04:53] iptables -A INPUT -m udp -p udp -i ppp0 --dport 7070:7089 -j ACCEPT [04:53] is not stateful [04:54] it should possible for siproxd to poke the kernel to say that a specific host:port:internal_host:port quad is accepted *and where the natted address is* [04:55] then the rtp packets do not need to bounce via siproxd which will be faster [04:55] tchau [05:31] Goooooooooooooooooooooood afternoon Launchpadders! [05:31] D'oh, I missed ddaa [05:36] Is there a builtin way of flattening a structure like (a, b, (c, (d, e), f)) to (a, b, c, d, e, f) if I don't care about ordering of the final tuple/set/whatever i get back? [05:38] mpt: launchpad_ftest_template in use should be a thing in the past now [05:39] stub, excellent [05:39] stub, in about how many hours is the rollout? [05:39] mpt: Don't know - I haven't heard back from elmo or Znarl [05:39] mpt: Probably around 10:00 UTC [05:40] (is London UTC+1 now?) [05:40] no idea - that's why I ask in terms of hours :-) === mpt washes out his mouth with soap and water after using the phrase "in terms of" for the second time in a month === Unfrgiven [n=ankur@202.76.176.94] has joined #launchpad [05:47] hi all. im having problems with e-mail on launchpad. all e-mails to ankur.kotwal@ubuntu.com are bouncing back, returning unknown alias. i am an ubuntu member. can someone assist me with this? [05:56] Unfrgiven: The only person who can help is elmo I'm afraid. If you are around on London time you can sort it via IRC, or email rt@admin.canonical.com to stick a request into his queue. [06:04] stub: ok cool. thanks for the info. === mpt_ [n=mpt@222-154-183-214.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined #launchpad === carthik [n=carthik@unaffiliated/carthik] has joined #launchpad [07:18] Is it okay to ask a "user" question. pardon me if it's not :) Why doesn't the following link seem to list the bugs oldest first, though it is supposed to? There seems to be no order wrt time: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs?advanced=1&field.searchtext=fixed&orderby=datecreated&field.status%3Alist=Needs+Info&field.status%3Alist=Fix+Committed&assignee_option=any&field.assignee=&field.owner=&field.component-empty-marker=1&field.omit_dup [07:18] es.used=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.has_patch.used=&field.has_no_package.used=&search=Search+bugs+in+Ubuntu&batch_start=75&batch_end=150 [07:19] wow, that was longer than I thought. Let me make a shorter url. I'm really sorry. [07:19] http://shurl.org/dsRvn Thanks in advance. [07:20] Unfrgiven: did you make it your main email? === mbp_ [n=mbp@ppp112-44.static.internode.on.net] has joined #launchpad === carthik_away [n=carthik@user-0cej755.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #launchpad === mpt_ [n=mpt@222-154-183-65.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined #launchpad [08:25] BjornT, ping [08:27] mpt_: pong [08:28] BjornT, when you said "remove [priority] from IBugTask", does that mean removing it from just browser/bugtask.py, or also interfaces/bugtask.py? [08:30] (sorry for the novice-level question) [08:30] mpt_: i was thinking removing it from interfaces/bugtask.py. that way, if some code tries to access the attribute, a ForbiddenAttribute exception will be raised. [08:31] ok === carlos [n=carlos@84.Red-81-34-76.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #launchpad [08:44] morning === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #launchpad [08:56] morning all [08:56] BjornT, removing it from interfaces/bugtask.py causes an importfascist KeyError in database/bugtask.py [08:57] I guess that means removing it from database/ too [09:02] mpt: IBugTask['priority'] .default can be removed and replaced with None. === stub [n=stub@ppp-58.8.7.12.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #launchpad === mdke_ is now known as mdke === doko [n=doko@dslb-088-073-097-065.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #launchpad [09:47] ugh === tortho [n=tortho@104.84-49-107.nextgentel.com] has joined #launchpad [10:04] why don't source packages have specs ? === isaric [n=isaric@tss37-1-82-228-160-214.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #launchpad [10:13] I a problem of impression with OOo.org on Dapper UBUNTU, is it necessary has to make in report/ratio of bug? http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?id=34809 [10:17] isaric: could you rephrase that? [10:19] I am not on being able it, I test [10:20] Since I passed in UBUNTU Dapper, I cannot print with openoffice.org [10:20] Merge to devel/launchpad/: [trivial] Added Dzongkha plural forms to our sample data (r3449: Carlos Perello Marin) [10:21] BjornT: please remember to update the pending reviews wiki page when you do a review [10:21] isaric: then it would make sense to report a bug [10:21] it throws the stats out :) [10:21] jamesh - same for you [10:21] lifeless: I have [10:21] yah [10:22] I see that now, stats page is slow [10:22] but you hadn't this morning :) [10:22] true. [10:23] I updated the statuses right after doing salgado's branch [10:23] its ok [10:23] water under the bridge now [10:28] lifeless: right, sorry, forgot to do that for the last review. [10:28] carlos, that was quick handling of Dzonghka, now how about Tamazight? :-) [10:28] lifeless: or did i? :) which branch? [10:29] lifeless: I'm getting a machine to replace the firewall soon (a 2.8GHz Pentium D from Dell for about $500). I'll get the siproxd stuff set up on that box so we can test things then [10:29] mpt: did we get a request for it? [10:29] I think I missed it, where? [10:31] carlos, bug 3954 [10:31] Malone bug 3954 in rosetta "Tamazight needs adding to Rosetta" [Normal,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/3954 [10:31] BjornT: I did it just now [10:31] jamesh: FWIW siproxd on my P150 firewall works fine :) [10:32] lifeless: ah, i saw that you changed it. the thing is that i reviewed it, but then matsubara found out that he needed to take a completely different approach, so he sent me a new diff and changed it to needs-review himself. [10:32] lifeless: sure, but my current firewall machine needs a refresh (it is still running Fedora Core 2) [10:32] oh! I see... [10:32] carlos, judging by the last comment, the description isn't accurate, it's not quite the same as English [10:32] mpt: thanks for remembering me it [10:32] BjornT: hmm. [10:33] oh, yes it is [10:33] lifeless: if I'm going to do that, I'd prefer to experiment with things after the upgrade [10:33] rather than having to do it all over again [10:33] they just have different wordings for "no chair" and "zero chairs", but then so does English [10:33] I'd like 'needs a revisit' to show differently to 'needs its first look' [10:33] jamesh: fair enough. Just saying is all ;) [10:34] BjornT: what do you think? needs-review to me says very clearly 'never looked at' [10:34] lifeless: Dell had some pretty good prices at the time -- $300 for a dual core 2.8GHz machine [10:34] jamesh: thats seriously good [10:34] jamesh: I was drooling over the alienware FX60 dream machine last week [10:34] lifeless: I realise that I don't need something that good to get things working [10:35] this is a tower case server machine though -- has no sound and on board 2D graphics, and can't take a modern 16-lane PCI-E graphics card [10:36] i.e. designed to be difficult to set up as a desktop ... [10:36] yeah [10:36] mpt: we don't even have that language in our database... [10:36] I can see that [10:36] of course, $300 for the parts isn't too bad either ... [10:36] lifeless: in the current workflow, yes. i think he changed to needs-review since he wanted me to take a look at the whole diff again, so maybe he should have changed the date as well. [10:37] oh, we have it but with a different name [10:37] BjornT: yeh. that would work for me [10:37] jamesh: spiv what you think of that ? [10:37] lifeless: i think the problem is that we have only after needs-review we have only needs-reply, in which state the review is until it's approved. maybe we should rename needs-reply to under-discussion or something like that? [10:39] BjornT: depends what precise stats we want out [10:39] I think needs-reply as under-discussion is a good compromise [10:39] thought it does not put the onus on who has the next act [10:40] which needs-review with an updated date does. [10:41] we used to go from needs-reply to needs-review, but people often forgot to update the status, so they were often out of sync. [10:45] lifeless: I'm not particularly attached to either needs-reply or under-discussion [10:45] I can work with either === jamesh wonders why the pending-reviews script is running slow === jinty [n=jinty@115.Red-80-24-9.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #launchpad [10:49] Good mornig, Anyone who can tell me how & when Launchpad/Rosetta is updating against the packages. The reason why i ask is that i saw the untranslated stings had increased quite much since yesterday, and also there are lots of the pink colors on the bars. [10:54] lifeless: I've got a Zope3.2 migration branch to land rs=SteveA, which also involves updating the Zope branch and the SQLOS branch. I'll be building a branch on balleny in a tick to do a final test run. [10:54] tortho: that's usually done at the same time we import the .pot files [10:54] tortho: but there are some situations when we need to associate the .po files with the .pot files [10:55] tortho: could you point me to the entries where we lack translations? [10:56] OK, It's not that we lack any translations, it's only that there are packages that was editet almost a month ago, wich still has pink color, and that yesterday, the Norwegian Bokmaal translation had Approx 133000 untranslated, and today 135000 (If I remember correctly. [10:57] stub: righto. [10:57] stub: disable pqm via cron [10:57] tortho: we are importing KDE atm === ploum [n=ploum@ubuntu/member/ploum] has joined #launchpad [10:58] stub: then when the composite tree is ready and has passed both [10:58] make check_merge [10:58] and cd sourcecode && make check [10:58] tortho: as you could check the amount of already translated strings should increase too [10:58] I will commit and push it for you [10:59] carlos: OK :-) more work.. I guess that one is increasing too... (Did only check the remaining ones...The ones that counts :-) BTW: arent the bars going to be green after the translation has been applyed...(since some of them are still pink and edited 1 month ago) [10:59] back when I've got this drive installed [10:59] tchau [11:00] tortho: the only way to get them green is that you submit your changes/additions to upstream and they apply them [11:00] carlos: OK, Thanks! === BjornT [n=bjorn@213.226.190.253] has joined #launchpad === koke [n=koke@ubuntu/member/koke] has joined #launchpad [11:19] Merge to devel/launchpad/: [trivial] Added Berber plural forms and linked as spoken on Morocco and Algeria to our sample data (r3450: Carlos Perello Marin) === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #launchpad === BjornT_ [n=bjorn@clt-84-32-240-183.dtiltas.lt] has joined #launchpad [11:45] is there any function on launchpad that, from any string gives you another string that follows the restrictions to be used as a 'valid_name' ? [11:52] carlos: not that I'm aware of [11:52] ok [11:52] thanks [11:54] carlos: I wrote my own for the bugzilla import [11:54] re.sub(r'[^a-z0-9\+\.\-] ', '-', string) [11:54] jamesh: could we move it to a commom place? it would be really useful to create potemplatename rows automatically from the translation domain === OdyX [n=Didier@8.Red-80-33-64.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #launchpad [11:55] jamesh: so it's not a function but an inline call... [11:55] actually, re.sub(r'[^a-z0-9\+\.\-] ', '-', string.lower()) is what is used [11:55] (for sanitising milestone names) [11:55] yeah [11:55] Hey guys. Found an error in english during translation (means, english text has an error): https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/dapper/+source/kubuntu-docs/+pots/aboutkubuntu/fr/+translate <- N9: Documenation: misses a "t" [11:56] OdyX: I'd suggest filing a bug against kubuntu-docs [11:57] jamesh: OK. Will be done. Thanks === WaterSevenUb [n=WaterSev@azevedo.astro.up.pt] has joined #launchpad [12:08] jamesh: I got it [12:08] I know I saw it [12:08] Done. Thanks === OdyX [n=Didier@8.Red-80-33-64.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has left #launchpad ["Konversation] [12:09] jamesh: helpers.getValidNameFromString [12:09] jamesh: I guess we should change it to use your solution as I think is more complete... [12:11] carlos: that function looks like it only produces a valid name for certain bad input [12:11] right, that's why I'm going to update it with your code [12:13] >>> from canonical.launchpad.helpers import getValidNameFromString [12:13] >>> from canonical.launchpad.validators.name import valid_name [12:13] >>> valid_name(getValidNameFromString('a$x5')) [12:13] False [12:14] carlos: my function also has a failure mode: it can result in a string that starts with a dash, which is invalid [12:14] jamesh: thank's for the test ;-) [12:15] that could be fixed by prepending an 'x' if result[0] == '-' [12:15] jamesh: right === mpt [n=mpt@222-154-183-65.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined #launchpad === sabdfl [n=mark@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has joined #launchpad === Fenrir- [i=fenrir@dsl-jklgw4-ffd2c000-52.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #Launchpad [01:14] hello === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #launchpad [01:17] Hmm, PQM appears to be stuck [01:17] I've been at the head of the queue for two hours [01:19] any idea how long is shipping to .fi ? [01:21] Fenrir-, if you mean for Ubuntu CDs, it's 4~6 weeks according to http://www.ubuntu.com/support/faq [01:23] mpt ye , i mean those === Unfrgiven [n=ankur@202.76.176.94] has left #launchpad [] === niemeyer [n=niemeyer@200-140-238-192.ctame7043.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has joined #launchpad === bradb [n=bradb@modemcable092.66-130-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #launchpad === matsubara [n=matsubar@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #launchpad === cprov [n=cprov@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #launchpad === Natja [n=Natja@232-219.240.81.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #launchpad === salgado [n=salgado@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #launchpad === mithro [n=tim@ppp246-117.static.internode.on.net] has joined #launchpad [02:04] hi! how do I file a patch against a ubuntu package? [02:06] open a bug against the package and attach the patch to it? [02:08] i've never use launchpad before and am finding it a bit confusing [02:08] Have you got yourself a launchpad account? [02:08] do you have a specific question [02:09] gettingnow [02:09] it takes some poking around to find what you want, but it seems obvious when you are there [02:09] (usually) [02:10] click on "File a Bug on a Package"? [02:15] how do you attach patches to a bug? [02:15] there is 'add attachment' in the actions box [02:20] yeah found it the second after i asked === ploum [n=ploum@ubuntu/member/ploum] has joined #launchpad [02:23] :-) [02:32] submitted to patch [02:36] s/to/two [02:42] now how long till they get processed :P === lifeless [n=robertc@dsl-43.1.240.220.rns01-kent-syd.dsl.comindico.com.au] has joined #launchpad === ddaa [n=ddaa@nor75-18-82-241-238-155.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #launchpad === niemeyer [n=niemeyer@200.138.133.29] has joined #launchpad [02:55] stub: re zope 3.2 branch [02:55] stub: it being unrelated means we lose our local change history record [02:56] stub: and - folk downloading it will need to do more [02:56] stub: so, I think we want to turn it into a patch in the first instance [02:56] The local changes are no longer relevant if that makes a difference [02:56] (except to archaeologists) [02:56] all of them ? Testing support changes [02:56] for instance [02:57] Whole new test framework [02:57] I'm aware of that :) [02:57] but we have changes that may not be present in it yet [02:58] and we either have to accept that these are lost - that we lose the features, or add them back in [02:58] Did --story ever land? That is the only thing I'm aware of that we will lose, and it will need to be reimplemented anyway. [02:58] its implemented with tests but it does not alter zope at all [02:59] what about stop on first failure ? [02:59] Some command line syntax changes that need to be documented on the wiki [02:59] Hmm... [02:59] For doctests? built in now. [02:59] no, all tests. [03:00] not stop-in-doctest-script, stop executing further tests at the end of a failing test. [03:00] we want revno 22 [03:00] dont need 21 [03:00] Stop-on-first-test-failure will need to be reimplemented [03:00] I presume 19 is unneeded [03:01] What are you looking at? [03:01] if the new test stuff is still vaguely pyunit compatible (it better be!) then reimplementation should be called 'merge' [03:01] log of our branch [03:01] 18 I presume is also unneeded [03:01] what about the whrandom stuff ? [03:02] whrandom is fixed upstream [03:02] k [03:02] ok [03:02] I would be extremely surprised if any of the old patches still apply anyway [03:04] whrandom usage is all fixed in 3.2 [03:04] ok [03:04] I'm turning this into a patch, please dont use or alter the zope dir for a bit [03:05] (the patch change is to make it easier for our devs to update to this) === ajmitch__ [n=ajmitch@port162-97.ubs.maxnet.co.nz] has joined #launchpad === ajmitch__ is now known as ajmitch === mithro [n=tim@ppp246-117.static.internode.on.net] has left #launchpad ["Ex-Chat"] === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #launchpad [03:17] holy cow [03:17] theres an entire copy of twisted in here ? [03:18] kiko-zzz: could you debug bug #29767 when you wake up if you get a chance [03:18] Malone bug 29767 in linux-source-2.6.15 "IBM Thinkpad X41 suspend to disk unsatisfactory regression" [Normal,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/29767 [03:29] is it possible to remove a branch ? [03:29] I made some crap and registered a series with an upstream SVN as a branch [03:29] stub: ping [03:30] lifeless: pong [03:30] yup - twisted [03:31] sick and twisted? === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #launchpad [03:31] Unfortunately not a version we can use for our other stuff :-( [03:32] We are about 18 months out of sync with upstream - lots of changes [03:32] zorglub: nope cannot delete [03:33] k [03:33] stub, lifeless: what is the proper way of dispose of those dud branches ATM? === beyond [n=beyond@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #launchpad [03:34] quite a few of them around, I'm willing to put in a trivial patch to make easier to garden, but I dunno what is the actual recommended gardening operation [03:34] I probably have to delete them manually until an interface gets written to do it. [03:34] TRUNCATE TABLE :) [03:35] deleting branches is dangerous stuff, since they are associated to on-disk data [03:35] stub: zopeskel [03:35] whats it for ? [03:35] we are ignoring it which means it will be imported [03:35] stub: having two copies of zope - wont that fuck things ? [03:36] zorglub: what is the launchpad page of the faulty branch? [03:36] https://launchpad.net/people/zorglub/+branch/manager/devel === niemeyer_ [n=niemeyer@200.193.159.126] has joined #launchpad [03:42] stub: delete from Branch where id=1117; [03:42] lifeless: I'm not sure what it is for. [03:43] zopeskel sounds like stuff generated by the build step [03:45] Hmm... looks like the template used for creating a Z3 instance, which we don't do (we just run inplace) [03:45] should we version it or not ? [03:46] Sure - it is part of the Zope tree, and stuff may depend on it being there. [03:46] It isn't generated - it is in the upstream SVN repository [03:47] ddaa: I should run that now? [03:48] yup [03:48] this kind of dud branch can be safely removed without second thought [03:48] ddaa: Gone [03:49] if there's any revision history or bug associated with it, you'd get a foreign key error. [03:49] zorglub: et voil [03:51] ok, thx [03:54] mpt: ping [04:10] stub: ok, we have a new tree [04:11] eh? [04:12] stub: are you happy with the add-series-drivers patch? [04:13] stub: am stepping afk for a while, will you mail me if you have any issues? am aiming to land asap [04:13] thanks [04:13] sabdfl: I haven't looked at it yet [04:14] sabdfl: ok [04:14] thanks [04:14] kiko-zzz: unzzz... === sabdfl [n=mark@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has left #launchpad [] [04:16] stub: we have a tree based on the previous, so 'pull' will work [04:16] stub: but with your content [04:16] ok [04:17] is it still rocketfuel/zope/3.0/test ? bzr log doesn't show any changes [04:18] not yet [04:18] tests/launchpad/sourcecode/zop [04:18] e [04:22] ready to flick the switch on this ? [04:22] have we done all the production updates we need to for a day or two to let this bed in ? [04:26] lifeless: I've already tagged production release before this [04:26] lifeless: I think we should flip the switch [04:26] ok [04:26] should we change the zope branch [04:26] i.e. put this in zope/3.2 [04:26] rather than zope/3.0/testing [04:26] we'll obviously need to update the config [04:26] configs [04:27] but this lets us leave the production config pointing at 3.0 until we do a prod rollout with this branch [04:27] People are manually entering the pull's rather than using config manager at the moment [04:27] I haven't built the production tree yet, so that would be good ;) === ddaa has a script to convert the sftp urls in the configs to local urls, so building the config on chinstrap takes less than forever. [04:28] ddaa: config_manager.UrlMapper [04:28] ddaa: Do you also hack it so the tree doesn't need to live in a directory called 'launchpad' ? === koke [n=koke@ubuntu/member/koke] has joined #launchpad [04:29] stub: nope [04:29] lifeless: good to know the functionality is there, but CM is something that I'm mostly interested into getting out the way when I want to build a production tree. [04:30] and when I do not want to build a production tree, I just do not need it [04:30] sure [04:30] I just hope nested trees support in bzr will be implemented soon [04:30] not for a year or so [04:30] *sigh* [04:31] I have not had time to implement the prerequisite specs and the beta for dapper needs to lock down in 4 days [04:31] I certainly do not mean for 0.8 [04:31] so with data format stability, you'll need to wait for a new default format before launchpad changes [04:31] which is ~ one year out [04:33] ok rf/zope/3.2 exists [04:33] you'll need to update that configs before anything notices that [04:34] care to sqlos updated [04:34] lifeless, how do I reconcile one of my branches? [04:34] carefully [04:34] that last in english? [04:34] meh [04:35] stub: can you edit configs and send in a merge for that ? [04:35] Sure [04:35] salgado: ECYCLES. ask in #bzr please or I'll lose the plot here and we'll be fucked [04:37] lifeless: pushed. There is already a pqm request for my configs branch to land (production 1.58 config) [04:38] thanks [04:39] stub: you said 'zope/3.2' rather than 'zope/3.0/tests' right ? [04:39] Yes [04:39] ok [04:39] main branch is merging at the moment [04:39] I'm going to [04:39] - commit that [04:39] move your patch to the front of the queue [04:39] enable pqm [04:39] watch the fireworks [04:40] yay [04:41] I guess I should document specifying the layer of your tests as that will bite people. Other that than I'm hoping things will be fairly smooth. [04:41] we need to document that: [04:42] if people are pulling from chinstrap by hand they need the new location of zope [04:42] that stop early has been removed and we'd like it reimplemented [04:44] stub: so there were three deletes and that was all ? [04:45] ~never mind I was on crack [04:45] or was I. this is too late for me. [04:46] ok [04:46] lp is done [04:47] lets see what happens [04:51] sqlos too? [04:52] done [04:56] meh, I forgot. [04:56] I fixed the queue ordering a while back [04:56] grumble [04:56] your patch will be along soon [04:56] have you removed pytz from the config [04:56] ? [04:57] and the symlink in lib ? [04:57] oops... pytz [04:57] symlink is gone thuogh [04:57] what else [04:57] this twisted thing worries me [04:57] we have apps that import twisted and zope. how do they get the twisted they need without breaking zope ? [04:57]