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| bddebian | Heya gang | 02:05 |
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| crimsun | lo bddebian | 02:06 |
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| bddebian | Heya Oh Great One :-) | 02:07 |
| zul | hey | 02:07 |
| bddebian | Oh Hello zul :-) | 02:08 |
| zul | hey bddebian how is it going? | 02:08 |
| bddebian | OK, thanks, you? | 02:08 |
| zul | good...just watching the hockey game | 02:08 |
| bddebian | Who is Jordan Mantha? I feel that I should know that name/nick? | 02:21 |
| crimsun | laserjock. | 02:23 |
| bddebian | Uh duuh | 02:26 |
| bddebian | I'm soo bad at associating names with nicks :-( | 02:26 |
| bddebian | crimsun: Did you ever get a chance to check out ivtools btw? infinity keeps ignoring me. :-) | 02:27 |
| crimsun | bddebian: haven't yet; I'm finishing an edit of Jordan's packaging guide atm | 02:28 |
| bddebian | ah nice | 02:28 |
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| bddebian | crimsun: s'ok, infinity says he knows the fix I guess | 02:30 |
| crimsun | bddebian: ok | 02:30 |
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| rtcm | hello all | 02:43 |
| rtcm | I'm trying to debug a system daemon which is crashing (segv) so I'd like to get a core dump file, or in someway atach gdb to it, any ideas? | 02:44 |
| rtcm | btw, it crashes right at the start thus I can't "normally" attach gdb to it | 02:45 |
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| Amaranth | what daemon? | 03:02 |
| Lathiat | rtcm: start it under gdb | 03:02 |
| Lathiat | rtcm: gdb /usr/bin/blah | 03:02 |
| Lathiat | run <arguments here> | 03:02 |
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| rtcm | Lathiat: yep doing that, nevermind my sillyness :-P | 03:04 |
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| ajmitch | Lathiat: I think I'll reconsider moving to .au ;) | 03:04 |
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| ajmitch | impressive post to launchpad-users | 03:07 |
| ajmitch | the sole content of it is "Free CD's UBUNTO LINUX New Release Thanks" | 03:07 |
| Lathiat | ajmitch: its wet here too :) | 03:07 |
| ajmitch | how annoying | 03:07 |
| bddebian | Uh oh, ajmitch is annoyed with me again :-) | 03:08 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: me? never | 03:08 |
| jmg | anyone know how to exclude a directory from inclusion in a source package built by dpkg-buildpackage? | 03:09 |
| bddebian | rm? | 03:09 |
| ajmitch | jmg: see dpkg-buildpackage manpage | 03:09 |
| ajmitch | specifically the -i option in the dpkg-source section | 03:10 |
| jmg | ajmitch: thanks | 03:11 |
| jmg | ajmitch: hmmm | 03:15 |
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| jmg | ajmitch: how do i make that directive get obeyed by dpkg-buildpackage? | 03:15 |
| ajmitch | dpkg-buildpackage -i.bzr | 03:17 |
| ajmitch | irc | 03:17 |
| jmg | aha | 03:18 |
| jmg | now how to make that happen everytime | 03:18 |
| ajmitch | well I think that's what worked for me :) | 03:18 |
| ajmitch | type it out everytime, or use debuild & set it in the options | 03:18 |
| ajmitch | DEBUILD_DPKG_BUILDPACKAGE_OPTS | 03:18 |
| ajmitch | you don't put it in the rules | 03:19 |
| Lathiat | hrm, what does chmod +t do? | 03:19 |
| ajmitch | Lathiat: not much these days | 03:19 |
| ajmitch | it's the sticky bit | 03:19 |
| ajmitch | STICKY DIRECTORIES | 03:19 |
| ajmitch | When the sticky bit is set on a directory, files in that directory may be unlinked or renamed only by the directory owner as well as by root or the file owner. Without the sticky bit, anyone able | 03:19 |
| ajmitch | to write to the directory can delete or rename files. The sticky bit is commonly found on directories, such as /tmp, that are world-writable. | 03:20 |
| ajmitch | lovely name for it | 03:20 |
| Lathiat | ah | 03:20 |
| Lathiat | where did you find that? | 03:20 |
| Lathiat | oh, in the man page, its just not associated witH +t | 03:20 |
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| lifeless | ajmitch: still in .au ? | 03:38 |
| ajmitch | lifeless: no, been back in Dunedin for a month now :) | 03:39 |
| ajmitch | hi StevenK | 03:39 |
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| StevenK | I was actually going okay with the 4th prac for SP2, until a gaggle of first years and their tutor moved into the lab I was using. | 03:42 |
| ajmitch | heh | 03:43 |
| ajmitch | sounds like the rain has stopped briefly, hopefully there's enough time for me to run back to uni | 03:43 |
| ajmitch | more lab demonstrating fun | 03:44 |
| StevenK | Heh | 03:45 |
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| bddebian | Where the hell is everyone? | 05:00 |
| freeflying | bddebian: hi | 05:00 |
| bddebian | Heya freeflying | 05:02 |
| Se7h | aloha | 05:09 |
| bddebian | Heya Se7h | 05:10 |
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| Se7h | hi bddebian :) | 05:13 |
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| ajmitch | ok | 06:23 |
| bddebian | OK? | 06:25 |
| ajmitch | yes | 06:29 |
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| Unfrgiven | does anyone know how to convert the timestamp shown in dmesg to actual time? or alternatively get the current dmesg timestamp? | 06:35 |
| ajmitch | Unfrgiven: no, since it appears relative to system boot time | 06:36 |
| Unfrgiven | ajmitch: really? then you would expect the first entry to be a smallish number right? what unit of measurement is it? | 06:38 |
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| ajmitch | Unfrgiven: seconds? I don't know :) | 06:39 |
| ajmitch | dmesg only holds a set number of messages before dropping them, that's why we have /var/log/{dmesg,syslog} | 06:39 |
| ajmitch | first entry here is [ 0.000000] Bootdata ok (command line is root=/dev/mapper/ubuntu-root ro quiet splash) | 06:40 |
| ajmitch | might be milliseconds | 06:40 |
| === ajmitch can't recall | ||
| Unfrgiven | ok no probs, thanks :) | 06:41 |
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| LaserJock | bddebian: ping? | 07:18 |
| ajmitch | hi LaserJock | 07:18 |
| bddebian | LaserJock: pong | 07:18 |
| LaserJock | hi ajmitch | 07:20 |
| LaserJock | bddebian: yes, probably a symlink would be fine until Debian/upstream fixes the problem | 07:21 |
| bddebian | Well I can't get it to work :-( | 07:21 |
| LaserJock | It wasn't too nice of upstream to hard code the directory for the help | 07:21 |
| LaserJock | bddebian: no? | 07:21 |
| bddebian | No, dh_link doesn't seem to like to symlink dirs | 07:22 |
| LaserJock | ok, I gotta get to bed, I'll fix it tomorrow if you don't, ok? | 07:23 |
| bddebian | NP | 07:23 |
| bddebian | BTW, also if you get a sec, check out saoimage, it FTBFSs for me | 07:23 |
| bddebian | Oh, Gnight :-) | 07:24 |
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| LaserJock_away | bddebian: ok, will do - in the morning | 07:45 |
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| dholbach | hello motu world! | 08:26 |
| Gloubiboulga | morning dholbach | 08:26 |
| dholbach | hi Gloubiboulga | 08:27 |
| Unfrgiven | dholbach: hey | 08:30 |
| ajmitch | hi dholbach | 08:30 |
| dholbach | hey Unfrgiven, ajmitch - i see the aussies^wkiwis are still there :) | 08:32 |
| ajmitch | dholbach, inciting trouble as always... | 08:34 |
| Unfrgiven | dholbach: i hear that then next ubuntu conference is going to be out your way? | 08:36 |
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| dholbach | Unfrgiven: i wish i could say that - no idea, honestly | 08:36 |
| dholbach | with the delay of the dapper relase all the planning had to be done again | 08:36 |
| dholbach | so i'm afraid I can't even give unofficial hints | 08:37 |
| ajmitch | doesn't surprise me | 08:38 |
| === ajmitch would really really like to know though :) | ||
| zakame | hi all | 08:39 |
| ajmitch | as I'm hoping it'll fall right in the 3-4 week break I have ;) | 08:39 |
| Gloubiboulga | hey zakame :) | 08:39 |
| zakame | hello Gloubiboulga | 08:39 |
| === ajmitch is guessing that it won't suit, however | ||
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| Unfrgiven | whiprush: dude, ur post finally worked! p.u.c is sydnicating it well now. what was the prob? | 09:01 |
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| Unfrgiven | Seveas: hey dude | 09:09 |
| Seveas | hi | 09:10 |
| Unfrgiven | Seveas: you had a chance to talk to lilo? :) | 09:10 |
| Seveas | yes, I even poked him about the cloaks | 09:10 |
| Unfrgiven | Seveas: did he respond? | 09:11 |
| Seveas | was at the end of a long conversation, had to leave | 09:11 |
| Seveas | apparently it slipped his mind | 09:12 |
| Seveas | will poke again | 09:12 |
| Unfrgiven | Seveas: thanks! | 09:12 |
| === Hobbsee pokes Seveas | ||
| === Hobbsee waves to everyone | ||
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| Toadstool | hi all | 10:15 |
| freeflying | Toadstool: hi | 10:16 |
| Toadstool | hi freeflying | 10:16 |
| Unfrgiven | Seveas: ping? | 10:22 |
| Unfrgiven | Seveas: in bug 38566 on Launchpad, you said that someone is already working on packaging the madwifi-ng drivers? | 10:22 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 38566 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15 "update to madwifi-ng" [Wishlist,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/38566 | 10:22 |
| Unfrgiven | Seveas: who is doing that? i just made packages of it myself on the weekend. perhaps i can assist the person? | 10:23 |
| Seveas | Unfrgiven, I heard from infinity (iirc) that there are plans to distribute it in universe since several cards need it | 10:26 |
| Seveas | Unfrgiven, and please apply the wext-19-compliance patch to your package | 10:27 |
| Unfrgiven | Seveas: well ive packaged it so i can upload it if need be. | 10:27 |
| Unfrgiven | Seveas: where do i get that patch? | 10:27 |
| Seveas | sec | 10:28 |
| Seveas | madwifi bug 462 | 10:28 |
| Ubugtu | Madwifi bug 462 in madwifi: 802.11 stack "Current WEXT Standard Compliance" [Enhancement,New] http://madwifi.org/ticket/462 | 10:28 |
| Unfrgiven | wext19_060402.patch (17.0 kB) - added by eaton.lists@gmail.com on 04/03/06 05:10:19. nearly complete patch, applies cleanly to r1489 | 10:29 |
| Unfrgiven | looks lik it was already applied to r1489? | 10:30 |
| Unfrgiven | ive packaged r1497 | 10:30 |
| Seveas | it's not applied yet | 10:32 |
| Unfrgiven | alright. ill take a look when i get home from work. | 10:33 |
| Unfrgiven | im heading home now. cya later | 10:33 |
| Seveas | ciao | 10:33 |
| Seveas | I'm heading to work soon | 10:33 |
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| MrFaber | hi all | 10:34 |
| MrFaber | Can please someone patch checkinstall like described in bug report? | 10:35 |
| MrFaber | And please fix loop-aes-source. It would be very sad if this bug comes in release. | 10:40 |
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| zakame | hi all | 11:09 |
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| zakame | hmm is there a bug with dh_iconcache | 11:39 |
| zakame | ? | 11:39 |
| dholbach | yes | 11:40 |
| dholbach | i just did an upload | 11:40 |
| dholbach | which bug did you spot? | 11:40 |
| dholbach | zakame: ^ | 11:42 |
| zakame | dholbach: line 32, missing $tmp in -printf switch, or is that intentiona? | 11:42 |
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| zakame | I suddently can't make the post* stuff, find says it cant find /usr/share/icons ... was doing this with darksnow last night | 11:43 |
| dholbach | that's for replacing, so there's /usr/share/icons/hicolor in @icon_dirs | 11:44 |
| dholbach | that line is good | 11:44 |
| dholbach | that there's no .post* that was a different bug | 11:44 |
| dholbach | the check if there were subdirs was wrong in dh_iconcache - i moved it to the post* | 11:45 |
| dholbach | that should be fine now | 11:45 |
| === zakame checks again | ||
| dholbach | i just did the upload in ubuntu8 | 11:47 |
| dholbach | so it might take some time until it's at your end | 11:47 |
| dholbach | i can upload the deb if you like | 11:47 |
| dholbach | to test it | 11:47 |
| dholbach | zakame: it's at http://daniel.holba.ch/ubuntu/ | 11:48 |
| zakame | cool! thanks =) | 11:48 |
| dholbach | thank you for taking it seriously | 11:49 |
| dholbach | and i'm sorry for the bug I introduced | 11:49 |
| dholbach | but it should be better now and even clean the cache if there's nothing left | 11:49 |
| === zakame hugs dholbach :) | ||
| dholbach | :-D | 11:50 |
| zakame | I hope to finish half of the list before thursday | 11:50 |
| dholbach | some might need a rebuild because of my stupidity | 11:51 |
| dholbach | but i'll check all of them for release again | 11:51 |
| dholbach | so just keep on going | 11:51 |
| zakame | thanks again! =) | 11:51 |
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| adn | hi | 12:50 |
| adn | who did I talk to last time I came about vlc? :) | 12:50 |
| adn | Toadstool: help me! :) | 12:51 |
| adn | G0SUB_: was it you? | 12:51 |
| Toadstool | hi adn :) | 12:51 |
| adn | G0SUB_: yes, it was you :) | 12:51 |
| adn | Toadstool: well, I've built a vlc package for dapper, if someone is interested | 12:52 |
| adn | (with less than 60M diff with Debian's version :p) | 12:52 |
| Toadstool | adn: svn version? | 12:54 |
| adn | last -test2 version | 12:55 |
| adn | and I think I'll be ready to get a 0.8.5-final version as soon as it is released | 12:55 |
| adn | (in about 2 weeks) | 12:55 |
| adn | test2 was released around one week ago, I think | 12:56 |
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| Toadstool | adn: for new upstream versions of a package, we must follow https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-motu/2006-February/000545.html as we are in UpstreamVersionFreeze | 12:58 |
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| adn | cassidy: hello, sorry to bother you, but do you know someone called quentin baire? | 01:00 |
| cassidy | adn: no. I should ? | 01:01 |
| jmg | what was the keyring email for revu again? | 01:01 |
| adn | cassidy: nono | 01:01 |
| ajmitch | jmg: keyring@tiber.tauware.de | 01:01 |
| adn | cassidy: it is a friend of mine who is student in a physics lab at ulb | 01:02 |
| jmg | hi ajmitch :) | 01:02 |
| jmg | i exported my secret key | 01:02 |
| ajmitch | evening jmg | 01:02 |
| adn | so I wondered if physInfo was the one :) | 01:02 |
| cassidy | adn: no, i don't know him :) | 01:02 |
| infinito | is it possible to remove an application from REVU? | 01:02 |
| ajmitch | infinito: yes, ask us :) | 01:02 |
| infinito | ajmitch: gcfilms is no longer needed on revu, as it is synced from debian | 01:03 |
| ajmitch | ok | 01:03 |
| ajmitch | infinito: it's in the archive section | 01:03 |
| ajmitch | generally we don't remove completely | 01:04 |
| Unfrgiven | infinito: hey dude | 01:04 |
| infinito | ajmitch: sorry, i didnt realize it was in archived... anyway, that pkg was never used | 01:06 |
| Unfrgiven | infinito: were you working on madwifi-ng pacakges? | 01:08 |
| infinito | Unfrgiven: no, i don't | 01:08 |
| adn | Toadstool: I don't think I'll move myself to make an exception | 01:09 |
| adn | Toadstool: I'll see for the next version of ubuntu | 01:09 |
| adn | well, thanks, I have to leave :) | 01:09 |
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| Unfrgiven | infinito: ok no probs :) i'll just continue on my packages then | 01:13 |
| infinito | Unfrgiven: maybe you were thinking on infinity... | 01:14 |
| Unfrgiven | infinito: yeah i was told infinity and i thought the name must be a typo :) | 01:15 |
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| ajmitch | hm, TB meeting in the morning | 01:37 |
| ajmitch | I guess I could get up in time for this one | 01:37 |
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| tseng | hi ogra | 01:45 |
| ajmitch | hi ogra | 01:45 |
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| jmg | TB? | 01:48 |
| jmg | Team Building? | 01:48 |
| Gloubiboulga | jmg, Technical Board | 01:48 |
| jmg | ubuntu tech board? | 01:48 |
| jmg | where is the meeting held? | 01:48 |
| tseng | #ubuntu-meeting | 01:48 |
| Gloubiboulga | on #ubuntu-meeting | 01:48 |
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| tseng | dholbach: gnome 2.14.1, *hug* | 01:57 |
| dholbach | tseng: working on it :) | 01:57 |
| tseng | i see :) | 01:58 |
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| zakame | hi | 02:50 |
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| Unfrgiven | what does it mean when patch says something like "hunk succeeded with fuzz"? | 03:21 |
| Unfrgiven | does it mean that it all worked ok? or do i need to inspect the changes? | 03:22 |
| kelmo | fuzz could be indicator of a patch gone wrong | 03:22 |
| kelmo | check fuzzy patches, always | 03:22 |
| Unfrgiven | check it just around the fuzz or the rest of the patch too? | 03:22 |
| kelmo | where the fuzz is, in particular | 03:23 |
| Unfrgiven | cool, it looks fine. the patch applied successfully. thanks | 03:23 |
| tuxmaniac | Can someone tell me who is taking care of #6266 ticket | 03:30 |
| Hobbsee | bug 6626? | 03:31 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 6626 in rhythmbox "rhythmbox: an album added to the queue plays out of order" [Unknown,Unknown] http://launchpad.net/bugs/6626 | 03:31 |
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| tuxmaniac | no 6266 | 03:31 |
| Tm_T | Hobbsee: hi | 03:31 |
| Hobbsee | hi Tm_T | 03:31 |
| Tm_T | bug 6266 | 03:31 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 6266 in xcircuit "xcircuit version is old" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/6266 | 03:31 |
| Hobbsee | bug 6266 | 03:31 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 6266 in xcircuit "xcircuit version is old" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/6266 | 03:32 |
| Hobbsee | oops... | 03:32 |
| tuxmaniac | yes | 03:32 |
| Tm_T | =) | 03:32 |
| === Hobbsee isnt dyslexic - really! | ||
| Tm_T | xcircuit? | 03:32 |
| tuxmaniac | Ubugtu: yes | 03:32 |
| tuxmaniac | Tm_T: yes | 03:32 |
| Tm_T | tuxmaniac: what's that | 03:32 |
| tuxmaniac | Tm_T: Its a Software for designing Circuits [Electronics] | 03:32 |
| Tm_T | aah | 03:32 |
| Tm_T | hey! | 03:32 |
| Tm_T | looks good | 03:33 |
| Tm_T | why I haven't seen this before :o | 03:34 |
| ajmitch | tuxmaniac: I'd say noone is | 03:34 |
| tuxmaniac | ajmitch: I just wanted to confim this so that I can try to do something about it.. | 03:34 |
| === ajmitch would probably be interested if it was useful :) | ||
| Tm_T | hehe | 03:35 |
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| tuxmaniac | ajmitch: Tm_T : it is useful for Hardware Software Guys | 03:35 |
| Tm_T | like me | 03:36 |
| === Tm_T is now doing things around AVR and little LCD display | ||
| tuxmaniac | Tm_T: Which Software u use to flash AVR Chips? | 03:37 |
| Tm_T | tuxmaniac: well, no success yet in Linux, so codevisionavr in windows | 03:38 |
| tuxmaniac | :( | 03:38 |
| Tm_T | we spent one day with one pro trying to flash in Linux... 5min with CVavr and whoo, done | 03:39 |
| tuxmaniac | Is there no software in linux for flashing AVRs? | 03:40 |
| tuxmaniac | I mean with proven success? | 03:40 |
| Se7h | whats avr ? | 03:41 |
| tuxmaniac | its a microcontroller | 03:41 |
| tuxmaniac | Se7h: Microcontrller | 03:41 |
| tuxmaniac | Tm_T: Did u ry avrdude | 03:42 |
| tuxmaniac | Did you try avrdude | 03:42 |
| Tm_T | hmm, not sure | 03:43 |
| Tm_T | I think yes | 03:43 |
| tuxmaniac | Tm_T: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/7289 | 03:43 |
| Tm_T | ugh | 03:45 |
| Tm_T | thanks | 03:45 |
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| bddebian | Heya Gang | 04:52 |
| Yagisan | G'day bddebian | 04:59 |
| bddebian | Howdy Yagisan | 04:59 |
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| Yagisan | bddebian: hows your day been ? | 05:01 |
| bddebian | Yagisan: Not bad since I just woke up. :-) You? | 05:03 |
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| Yagisan | bddebian: exhausted. I spent all day doing my work, and all the cooking, cleaning, and childminding - and it still isn't finished | 05:17 |
| bddebian | It NEVER is :-) | 05:18 |
| === Yagisan sobs quietly | ||
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| Spec | Is it possible to get the '.changes' file from a package in the ubuntu repository? | 05:28 |
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| slomo_ | Spec: no... why would you want it? | 05:34 |
| Spec | I wanted to test this local apt repository i'm setting up for someone else | 05:36 |
| Spec | but I need a program and a .changes file to use dput | 05:36 |
| slomo_ | create one yourself :) | 05:36 |
| slomo_ | dpkg-buildpackage or debuild creates one for you | 05:36 |
| slomo_ | (well, dpkg-genchanges to be exact) | 05:37 |
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| bddebian | OK Oh MOTU Gods, how can I symlink dirs? dh_link doesn't seem to like it.. | 06:21 |
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| crimsun | FunnyHat_Work: no, that's very much a debhelper question, which is on-topic here. | 06:48 |
| FunnyHat_Work | crimsun, Ahh ok. I had thought this was mainly for packaging and repository discussion. | 06:50 |
| bddebian | Heya crimsun | 06:50 |
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| crimsun | FunnyHat_Work: it is, and that's a packaging question :) | 06:51 |
| crimsun | bddebian: heya | 06:51 |
| bddebian | OK, I know someone told me this already but how can I add an icon file to a package without regenerating the orig.tar.gz? | 06:51 |
| === bddebian loves talking to himself in here :-) | ||
| azeem | bddebian: put it in the .diff.gz | 06:54 |
| azeem | i.e. somewhere in debian/ and install it in the install: target or via dh_install (unless it doesn't set --srcdir=debian/tmp) | 06:55 |
| FunnyHat_Work | I'm so nub :) | 06:56 |
| bddebian | azeem: That's what I'm trying to do but I get "unrepresentable changes to ..." problems :-( | 06:58 |
| azeem | bddebian: you need to uuencode binary data in patches | 06:58 |
| azeem | and thus also in .diff.gz | 06:58 |
| bddebian | Oh ugh | 06:59 |
| === bddebian is so clueless :-( | ||
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| ivoks | anyone here? any MOTU :) | 07:14 |
| bddebian | Yo | 07:14 |
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| ivoks | ou! :) | 07:14 |
| dholbach | heya! | 07:14 |
| ivoks | one quick q. | 07:14 |
| === bddebian hopes he can answer | ||
| ivoks | i have new wifi-radar (mostly bugfixes) | 07:15 |
| ivoks | i would like to upload it | 07:15 |
| ivoks | but i'm not sure should i ask for UVF exception | 07:15 |
| ivoks | or just upload | 07:15 |
| ivoks | it is a new version, not new revision | 07:15 |
| crimsun | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-motu/2006-February/000545.html | 07:15 |
| ivoks | oh, thanks | 07:16 |
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| ivoks | great procedure | 07:17 |
| ivoks | so, how are you guys? | 07:17 |
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| crimsun | ivoks: busy as always. How's the work going? | 07:21 |
| ivoks | don't ask :( | 07:22 |
| ivoks | i got 20kg in 4 months | 07:22 |
| ivoks | that's 1/4 of my weight before i got job at redhat partner :) | 07:22 |
| ivoks | from 80kg to 100kg :) | 07:22 |
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| cbx33 | in malone, is a debdiff classed as a patch? - when it says tick this box if it's a patch? | 07:35 |
| crimsun | yes. | 07:35 |
| crimsun | (you can apply a debdiff, so it must be a patch) | 07:35 |
| cbx33 | ok | 07:36 |
| cbx33 | LaserJock said to assign it the motureviewers then | 07:36 |
| cbx33 | not motu-reviewers | 07:36 |
| cbx33 | did i get the spelling right there? | 07:36 |
| LaserJock | yep | 07:37 |
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| cbx33 | thanks LaserJock | 07:37 |
| cbx33 | did you get my pm? | 07:37 |
| cbx33 | what do i change the status to? | 07:38 |
| cbx33 | In Progress | 07:38 |
| cbx33 | ? | 07:38 |
| cbx33 | it was Confirmed | 07:38 |
| LaserJock | cbx33: no, I don't think I got the pm. Yeah, In Progress works | 07:39 |
| LaserJock | crimsun: how is the packaging guide reviewing going? | 07:39 |
| crimsun | LaserJock: I'm 50% finished with generic/packagingguide/C/basic.xml | 07:40 |
| crimsun | that should be the bulk of it | 07:40 |
| LaserJock | crimsun: cool | 07:40 |
| LaserJock | yeah | 07:41 |
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| cbx33 | w00t | 07:45 |
| cbx33 | first bug submitted | 07:45 |
| LaserJock | what to go cbx33! | 07:45 |
| cbx33 | you didn't get my pm about my other bug? | 07:46 |
| cbx33 | resent | 07:47 |
| bddebian | dpatch can work without a 00list? | 07:48 |
| cbx33 | looks like it | 07:48 |
| Gloubiboulga | bddebian, 00list is needed I think | 07:49 |
| cbx33 | well a package I'm working on doesn't have one | 07:49 |
| cbx33 | what do i do... | 07:49 |
| bddebian | cbx33: Neither does qgis afaict | 07:50 |
| cbx33 | i have to add a patch that modifies something a previous patch does | 07:50 |
| cbx33 | is that ok? | 07:50 |
| Gloubiboulga | I'd modify the patch, but I'm not sure that's the good way to do this | 07:56 |
| cbx33 | what's the good way | 07:56 |
| cbx33 | :p | 07:56 |
| cbx33 | it' difficult | 07:57 |
| cbx33 | i have to apply the patch and then create a new patch from that source :S | 07:57 |
| cbx33 | you're right not good....either...this is quite a mess... | 07:57 |
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| cbx33 | anyideas? | 08:07 |
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| kiko | hello sacred MOTU hackers | 08:28 |
| kiko | I see, ignoring me | 08:28 |
| bddebian | Hello kiko | 08:29 |
| kiko | how's it going | 08:29 |
| bddebian | Busy :-) | 08:30 |
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| bddebian | OK, gotta take the kids to the park, later gang | 08:31 |
| kiko | I'm looking for a motu who can give gtimelog some loving! | 08:31 |
| kiko | normally ajmitch takes pity on me | 08:32 |
| kiko | but today it seems that the world is busy watching iran | 08:33 |
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| Lure | can somebody remind me how to add additional repo to dapper pbuilder - OTHERMIRROR did not help | 08:38 |
| Spec | slomo_: thanks | 08:39 |
| Lure | solved - sudo pbuilder update --override-config | 08:46 |
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| cbx33 | boo ya :p - he's back | 09:54 |
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| cbx33 | when i do an apt-get remove on a package it tries to remove ubuntu-desktop I know this isn't desirable...where would the problem lie? | 10:13 |
| Kyral | ubuntu-desktop depends on it | 10:13 |
| Kyral | enough said | 10:13 |
| crimsun | ubuntu-desktop is fine to remove. It eases dist-upgrades between released Ubuntu versions, though, which is why you'd want to have it installed. | 10:13 |
| cbx33 | no it doesn't | 10:13 |
| cbx33 | ah i see | 10:14 |
| LaserJock | cbx33: there is a Technical Board meeting going on in #ubuntu-meetings if you want to take a peak at the proccess | 10:14 |
| Kyral | in a nutshell | 10:14 |
| cbx33 | oooh yes | 10:14 |
| Tm_T | ubuntu-desktop contains only dependencies | 10:14 |
| cbx33 | thanks LaserJock | 10:14 |
| Kyral | the -Desktop packages exist to pull in the things installed normally with the respective variants | 10:14 |
| Kyral | and when new things are added to the default installs, they get added to the -Desktop package | 10:15 |
| cbx33 | i see | 10:15 |
| Kyral | you can remove the -Desktop packages fine, and the software will continue to upgrade. What purpose the -Desktop packages serve once installed is to keep a "standard" set on the computer | 10:16 |
| cbx33 | so, anyone got any advice on my little problem with a package I'm trying to fix... | 10:16 |
| Kyral | frankly I dislike the entire concept.... | 10:16 |
| cbx33 | i need to patch a patch :p | 10:16 |
| LaserJock | Kyral: what would you do instead? | 10:17 |
| Kyral | I use Arch now :P | 10:17 |
| Kyral | On my laptop I keep Xubuntu-Desktop around just because I haven't removed anything that it depends on | 10:18 |
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| Kyral | On my server, well that is 4 systems in one, so it doesn't really apply | 10:18 |
| Kyral | and it runs headless anyway, so the point is moot | 10:19 |
| Kyral | the Server is Xen Breezy (so that means custom compiled Kernels and Xen) and otherwise is stripped down like crazy | 10:20 |
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| LaserJock | I found a bunch of qemu images for various distros, I was thinking of trying a few out | 10:23 |
| cbx33 | qemu is ok | 10:23 |
| cbx33 | LaserJock, would it be better to patch a patch, or modify the existing patch | 10:24 |
| LaserJock | depends on the amount of changes | 10:24 |
| LaserJock | I would guess | 10:24 |
| cbx33 | it's only one line modification | 10:24 |
| cbx33 | the change last made to port to ubunutu actualy broke the package | 10:25 |
| LaserJock | cbx33: and it is in the realm of the patch? generally we seperate patches if they are for different purposes or different files for instance | 10:26 |
| cbx33 | it is a line which is changed in the patch | 10:26 |
| cbx33 | it was put move file locations | 10:27 |
| LaserJock | oh, then for sure patch the patch | 10:27 |
| cbx33 | just mod the patch? | 10:27 |
| cbx33 | or create a whole patch for it? | 10:27 |
| cbx33 | if so how does that work even :p | 10:27 |
| LaserJock | cbx33: is it a dpatch patch? | 10:36 |
| cbx33 | i don;t think so.,,, | 10:36 |
| cbx33 | it has not dpatch header | 10:36 |
| cbx33 | and no 00list | 10:36 |
| LaserJock | k | 10:36 |
| LaserJock | then you probably need to redo the patch | 10:36 |
| cbx33 | ok, i think I can just modify one line in the patch file | 10:37 |
| cbx33 | and rebuild | 10:37 |
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| cbx33 | is that a valid method? | 10:38 |
| LaserJock | well, it depends on if it works ;-) | 10:40 |
| cbx33 | I'm sure it will | 10:40 |
| LaserJock | patches usually don't work too well if you edit them by hand | 10:40 |
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| cbx33 | I'll try it | 10:40 |
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| bddebian | OK, folks, what have I missed? :-) | 10:58 |
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| dholbach | night guys | 11:08 |
| LaserJock | cya dholbach | 11:08 |
| dholbach | night LaserJock | 11:08 |
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| bddebian | dpatch is just dpatch apply-all? | 11:19 |
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| JohnnyMast | Natja ik zou je connectie eens checken :) | 11:21 |
| Natja | JohnnyMast: huh ? | 11:22 |
| JohnnyMast | you heared me | 11:22 |
| Natja | well, not really | 11:23 |
| JohnnyMast | your from the france part of belgium ? | 11:24 |
| hub | JohnnyMast: there is no france part in belgium | 11:25 |
| JohnnyMast | there is | 11:25 |
| hub | france and belgium are 2 different countries | 11:25 |
| JohnnyMast | no im talking about the france language | 11:26 |
| JohnnyMast | wich belguim is split up in dutch and france | 11:26 |
| Natja | do you mean french language ? | 11:26 |
| Natja | anyway, you said "Natja I will check your connection" | 11:27 |
| Natja | but I don't understand why | 11:27 |
| hub | JohnnyMast: split? | 11:27 |
| hub | you mean the fact that there is a bilinguism> | 11:28 |
| hub | which has nothing to do with france | 11:28 |
| hub | fortunately | 11:28 |
| Natja | hub: exactly | 11:28 |
| hub | leave the French were they are :-) | 11:29 |
| JohnnyMast | lol im not talking about the ppl | 11:29 |
| JohnnyMast | the language | 11:30 |
| hub | france is not a language | 11:30 |
| hub | it is a country | 11:30 |
| JohnnyMast | frensh | 11:30 |
| JohnnyMast | what ever | 11:30 |
| JohnnyMast | :p | 11:30 |
| JohnnyMast | but dutch powns belgium | 11:30 |
| crimsun | bddebian: in what context? | 11:31 |
| JohnnyMast | like back in the old days when we learned them how to speak dutch | 11:31 |
| bddebian | crimsun: qgis has .dpatch files in debian/patches but doesn't run them apparently | 11:31 |
| bddebian | crimsun: Though in includes dpatch.mk in rules | 11:31 |
| crimsun | bddebian: hmm, are they stated in debian/patches/00list ? | 11:31 |
| bddebian | crimsun: There was no 00list. I just added one for my dpatch but still if I do debian/rules patch, I get nothing :-( | 11:32 |
| crimsun | bddebian: does it include both /usr/share/cdbs/1/rules/dpatch.mk and /usr/share/dpatch/dpatch.make ? | 11:35 |
| ajmitch | morning | 11:36 |
| bddebian | No, just /usr/share.. It is not a cdbs package afaict | 11:36 |
| bddebian | Heya ajmitch | 11:36 |
| crimsun | oh, sorry, I just assumed it was using cdbs | 11:41 |
| crimsun | 'morning, ajmitch | 11:42 |
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| bddebian | Can't I just do dpatch apply-all or some such? | 11:51 |
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