=== LaserJock [n=laserjoc@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nomed [n=nomed@host180-127.pool8254.interbusiness.it] has left #ubuntu-motu ["/etc/init.d/nomed] === Natja [n=Natja@232-219.240.81.adsl.skynet.be] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === jcape [i=jcape@71.194.176.102] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hub [n=hub@toronto-hs-216-138-231-194.s-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === womble [n=mpalmer@106.135.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu === infinito [n=infinito@VPNPOOL01-0198.UNI-MUENSTER.DE] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jaldhar [n=jaldhar@c-68-38-202-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:05] Heya gang [02:06] lo bddebian === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:07] Heya Oh Great One :-) [02:07] hey [02:08] Oh Hello zul :-) [02:08] hey bddebian how is it going? [02:08] OK, thanks, you? [02:08] good...just watching the hockey game [02:21] Who is Jordan Mantha? I feel that I should know that name/nick? [02:23] laserjock. [02:26] Uh duuh [02:26] I'm soo bad at associating names with nicks :-( [02:27] crimsun: Did you ever get a chance to check out ivtools btw? infinity keeps ignoring me. :-) [02:28] bddebian: haven't yet; I'm finishing an edit of Jordan's packaging guide atm [02:28] ah nice === TheMuso [n=luke@ubuntu/member/themuso] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:30] crimsun: s'ok, infinity says he knows the fix I guess [02:30] bddebian: ok === bddebian goes back to being the .desktop bitch === rtcm [n=e@81.84.150.61] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:43] hello all [02:44] I'm trying to debug a system daemon which is crashing (segv) so I'd like to get a core dump file, or in someway atach gdb to it, any ideas? [02:45] btw, it crashes right at the start thus I can't "normally" attach gdb to it === dradul [n=dradul@unaffiliated/dradul] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dradul [n=dradul@unaffiliated/dradul] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [03:02] what daemon? [03:02] rtcm: start it under gdb [03:02] rtcm: gdb /usr/bin/blah [03:02] run === FunnyLookinHat [n=FunnyLoo@71.57.11.218] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:04] Lathiat: yep doing that, nevermind my sillyness :-P === ajmitch is drenched [03:04] Lathiat: I think I'll reconsider moving to .au ;) === slomo_ [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian gives ajmitch a big hug [03:07] impressive post to launchpad-users [03:07] the sole content of it is "Free CD's UBUNTO LINUX New Release Thanks" [03:07] ajmitch: its wet here too :) [03:07] how annoying [03:08] Uh oh, ajmitch is annoyed with me again :-) [03:08] bddebian: me? never [03:09] anyone know how to exclude a directory from inclusion in a source package built by dpkg-buildpackage? [03:09] rm? [03:09] jmg: see dpkg-buildpackage manpage [03:10] specifically the -i option in the dpkg-source section [03:11] ajmitch: thanks [03:15] ajmitch: hmmm === dewd_ [n=dewd@201.29.107.23] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:15] ajmitch: how do i make that directive get obeyed by dpkg-buildpackage? [03:17] dpkg-buildpackage -i.bzr [03:17] irc [03:18] aha [03:18] now how to make that happen everytime [03:18] well I think that's what worked for me :) [03:18] type it out everytime, or use debuild & set it in the options [03:18] DEBUILD_DPKG_BUILDPACKAGE_OPTS [03:19] you don't put it in the rules [03:19] hrm, what does chmod +t do? [03:19] Lathiat: not much these days [03:19] it's the sticky bit [03:19] STICKY DIRECTORIES [03:19] When the sticky bit is set on a directory, files in that directory may be unlinked or renamed only by the directory owner as well as by root or the file owner. Without the sticky bit, anyone able [03:20] to write to the directory can delete or rename files. The sticky bit is commonly found on directories, such as /tmp, that are world-writable. [03:20] lovely name for it [03:20] ah [03:20] where did you find that? [03:20] oh, in the man page, its just not associated witH +t === nictuku [n=yves@unaffiliated/nictuku] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ajmitch really doesn't want to have to walk back to uni in this rain === StevenK waves. [03:38] ajmitch: still in .au ? [03:39] lifeless: no, been back in Dunedin for a month now :) [03:39] hi StevenK === StevenK sighs. [03:42] I was actually going okay with the 4th prac for SP2, until a gaggle of first years and their tutor moved into the lab I was using. [03:43] heh [03:43] sounds like the rain has stopped briefly, hopefully there's enough time for me to run back to uni [03:44] more lab demonstrating fun [03:45] Heh === jcole [n=jcole@palrel2.hp.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.36] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.36] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dudus [n=dudus@200.245.31.150] has joined #ubuntu-motu === caravena [n=caravena@164.77.169.201] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:00] Where the hell is everyone? [05:00] bddebian: hi [05:02] Heya freeflying [05:09] aloha [05:10] Heya Se7h === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:13] hi bddebian :) === ogra_ibook [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu === seth [n=seth@ubuntu/member/seth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dudus [n=dudus@200.245.31.150] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Part"] === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:23] ok [06:25] OK? [06:29] yes === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:35] does anyone know how to convert the timestamp shown in dmesg to actual time? or alternatively get the current dmesg timestamp? [06:36] Unfrgiven: no, since it appears relative to system boot time [06:38] ajmitch: really? then you would expect the first entry to be a smallish number right? what unit of measurement is it? === FliesLikeABrick [n=Ryan@about/rpi/rawdor] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:39] Unfrgiven: seconds? I don't know :) [06:39] dmesg only holds a set number of messages before dropping them, that's why we have /var/log/{dmesg,syslog} [06:40] first entry here is [ 0.000000] Bootdata ok (command line is root=/dev/mapper/ubuntu-root ro quiet splash) [06:40] might be milliseconds === ajmitch can't recall [06:41] ok no probs, thanks :) === rajasun [n=maximusp@bb220-255-207-70.singnet.com.sg] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.36] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:18] bddebian: ping? [07:18] hi LaserJock [07:18] LaserJock: pong [07:20] hi ajmitch [07:21] bddebian: yes, probably a symlink would be fine until Debian/upstream fixes the problem [07:21] Well I can't get it to work :-( [07:21] It wasn't too nice of upstream to hard code the directory for the help [07:21] bddebian: no? [07:22] No, dh_link doesn't seem to like to symlink dirs [07:23] ok, I gotta get to bed, I'll fix it tomorrow if you don't, ok? [07:23] NP [07:23] BTW, also if you get a sec, check out saoimage, it FTBFSs for me [07:24] Oh, Gnight :-) === caci [i=sk@andariel.informatik.uni-erlangen.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === No1Viking [n=Viking@h-83-140-104-3.ip.cust.port80.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lucas [n=lucas@ubuntu/member/lucas] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:45] bddebian: ok, will do - in the morning === elkyne [n=melissa@203-214-128-159.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === StevenK [n=stevenk@14.5.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === carthik_away [n=carthik@user-0cej755.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach [n=daniel@i577B0C73.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:26] hello motu world! [08:26] morning dholbach [08:27] hi Gloubiboulga [08:30] dholbach: hey [08:30] hi dholbach [08:32] hey Unfrgiven, ajmitch - i see the aussies^wkiwis are still there :) [08:34] dholbach, inciting trouble as always... [08:36] dholbach: i hear that then next ubuntu conference is going to be out your way? === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:36] Unfrgiven: i wish i could say that - no idea, honestly [08:36] with the delay of the dapper relase all the planning had to be done again [08:37] so i'm afraid I can't even give unofficial hints [08:38] doesn't surprise me === ajmitch would really really like to know though :) [08:39] hi all [08:39] as I'm hoping it'll fall right in the 3-4 week break I have ;) [08:39] hey zakame :) [08:39] hello Gloubiboulga === ajmitch is guessing that it won't suit, however === Mongoose [n=mongoose@ip68-106-216-206.oc.oc.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:01] whiprush: dude, ur post finally worked! p.u.c is sydnicating it well now. what was the prob? === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bhuvan [n=bhuvan@ubuntu/member/bhuvan] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:09] Seveas: hey dude [09:10] hi [09:10] Seveas: you had a chance to talk to lilo? :) [09:10] yes, I even poked him about the cloaks [09:11] Seveas: did he respond? [09:11] was at the end of a long conversation, had to leave [09:12] apparently it slipped his mind [09:12] will poke again [09:12] Seveas: thanks! === Hobbsee pokes Seveas === Hobbsee waves to everyone === Mongoose is away: /_\ zzZzZZZZzz === Mongoose [n=mongoose@ip68-106-216-206.oc.oc.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=lure@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.36] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gervystar [n=gervysta@217-133-96-194.b2b.tiscali.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === doko [n=doko@dslb-088-073-097-065.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:15] hi all [10:16] Toadstool: hi [10:16] hi freeflying [10:22] Seveas: ping? [10:22] Seveas: in bug 38566 on Launchpad, you said that someone is already working on packaging the madwifi-ng drivers? [10:22] Malone bug 38566 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15 "update to madwifi-ng" [Wishlist,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/38566 [10:23] Seveas: who is doing that? i just made packages of it myself on the weekend. perhaps i can assist the person? [10:26] Unfrgiven, I heard from infinity (iirc) that there are plans to distribute it in universe since several cards need it [10:27] Unfrgiven, and please apply the wext-19-compliance patch to your package [10:27] Seveas: well ive packaged it so i can upload it if need be. [10:27] Seveas: where do i get that patch? [10:28] sec [10:28] madwifi bug 462 [10:28] Madwifi bug 462 in madwifi: 802.11 stack "Current WEXT Standard Compliance" [Enhancement,New] http://madwifi.org/ticket/462 [10:29] wext19_060402.patch (17.0 kB) - added by eaton.lists@gmail.com on 04/03/06 05:10:19. nearly complete patch, applies cleanly to r1489 [10:30] looks lik it was already applied to r1489? [10:30] ive packaged r1497 [10:32] it's not applied yet [10:33] alright. ill take a look when i get home from work. [10:33] im heading home now. cya later [10:33] ciao [10:33] I'm heading to work soon === MrFaber [n=MrFaber@dslb-084-056-236-134.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:34] hi all [10:35] Can please someone patch checkinstall like described in bug report? [10:40] And please fix loop-aes-source. It would be very sad if this bug comes in release. === Natja [n=Natja@232-219.240.81.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Zdra [n=zdra@69-211.242.81.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Zdra [n=zdra@69-211.242.81.adsl.skynet.be] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Ex-Chat"] === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jinty [n=jinty@115.Red-80-24-9.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zakame [n=zakame@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:09] hi all === xophEr [n=xopher@a84-230-124-206.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ealden [n=ealden@203.76.212.70] has joined #ubuntu-motu === koke [n=koke@ubuntu/member/koke] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jdthood [n=jdthood@x091.decis.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:39] hmm is there a bug with dh_iconcache [11:39] ? [11:40] yes [11:40] i just did an upload [11:40] which bug did you spot? [11:42] zakame: ^ [11:42] dholbach: line 32, missing $tmp in -printf switch, or is that intentiona? === nomed [n=nomed@host102-58.pool8252.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:43] I suddently can't make the post* stuff, find says it cant find /usr/share/icons ... was doing this with darksnow last night [11:44] that's for replacing, so there's /usr/share/icons/hicolor in @icon_dirs [11:44] that line is good [11:44] that there's no .post* that was a different bug [11:45] the check if there were subdirs was wrong in dh_iconcache - i moved it to the post* [11:45] that should be fine now === zakame checks again [11:47] i just did the upload in ubuntu8 [11:47] so it might take some time until it's at your end [11:47] i can upload the deb if you like [11:47] to test it [11:48] zakame: it's at http://daniel.holba.ch/ubuntu/ [11:48] cool! thanks =) [11:49] thank you for taking it seriously [11:49] and i'm sorry for the bug I introduced [11:49] but it should be better now and even clean the cache if there's nothing left === zakame hugs dholbach :) [11:50] :-D [11:50] I hope to finish half of the list before thursday [11:51] some might need a rebuild because of my stupidity [11:51] but i'll check all of them for release again [11:51] so just keep on going [11:51] thanks again! =) === MrFaber [n=MrFaber@dslb-084-056-236-134.pools.arcor-ip.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Konversation] === herzi [n=herzi@d158028.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ZuZubuntu-fr [n=ZuZubunt@AVelizy-154-1-53-205.w83-199.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dewd_ [n=dewd@201.29.107.23] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ZuZubuntu-fr [n=ZuZubunt@AVelizy-154-1-53-205.w83-199.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=lure@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu === adn [n=adn@wahe.diwi.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:50] hi [12:50] who did I talk to last time I came about vlc? :) [12:51] Toadstool: help me! :) [12:51] G0SUB_: was it you? [12:51] hi adn :) [12:51] G0SUB_: yes, it was you :) [12:52] Toadstool: well, I've built a vlc package for dapper, if someone is interested [12:52] (with less than 60M diff with Debian's version :p) [12:54] adn: svn version? [12:55] last -test2 version [12:55] and I think I'll be ready to get a 0.8.5-final version as soon as it is released [12:55] (in about 2 weeks) [12:56] test2 was released around one week ago, I think === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-motu === infinito [n=infinito@VPNPOOL01-0071.UNI-MUENSTER.DE] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:58] adn: for new upstream versions of a package, we must follow https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-motu/2006-February/000545.html as we are in UpstreamVersionFreeze === cassidy [n=cassidy@physInfo-mac26.ulb.ac.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:00] cassidy: hello, sorry to bother you, but do you know someone called quentin baire? [01:01] adn: no. I should ? [01:01] what was the keyring email for revu again? [01:01] cassidy: nono [01:01] jmg: keyring@tiber.tauware.de [01:02] cassidy: it is a friend of mine who is student in a physics lab at ulb [01:02] hi ajmitch :) [01:02] i exported my secret key [01:02] evening jmg [01:02] so I wondered if physInfo was the one :) [01:02] adn: no, i don't know him :) [01:02] is it possible to remove an application from REVU? [01:02] infinito: yes, ask us :) [01:03] ajmitch: gcfilms is no longer needed on revu, as it is synced from debian [01:03] ok [01:03] infinito: it's in the archive section [01:04] generally we don't remove completely [01:04] infinito: hey dude [01:06] ajmitch: sorry, i didnt realize it was in archived... anyway, that pkg was never used [01:08] infinito: were you working on madwifi-ng pacakges? [01:08] Unfrgiven: no, i don't [01:09] Toadstool: I don't think I'll move myself to make an exception [01:09] Toadstool: I'll see for the next version of ubuntu [01:09] well, thanks, I have to leave :) === adn [n=adn@wahe.diwi.org] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [01:13] infinito: ok no probs :) i'll just continue on my packages then [01:14] Unfrgiven: maybe you were thinking on infinity... [01:15] infinito: yeah i was told infinity and i thought the name must be a typo :) === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ZuZubuntu-fr is now known as AWAY [01:37] hm, TB meeting in the morning [01:37] I guess I could get up in time for this one === ogra_ibook [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:45] hi ogra [01:45] hi ogra === selinium [n=selinium@82-45-118-133.stb.ubr02.sout.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:48] TB? [01:48] Team Building? [01:48] jmg, Technical Board [01:48] ubuntu tech board? [01:48] where is the meeting held? [01:48] #ubuntu-meeting [01:48] on #ubuntu-meeting === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.36] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:57] dholbach: gnome 2.14.1, *hug* [01:57] tseng: working on it :) [01:58] i see :) === lionelp [n=lionel@ip-128.net-82-216-65.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === kelmo [n=kelmo@madwifi/support/kelmo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === infinito [n=infinito@VPNPOOL01-0071.UNI-MUENSTER.DE] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying-ibook [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.36] has joined #ubuntu-motu === truz24 [n=truz24@12-203-70-118.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === erez [n=erez@89-138-70-14.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bpuccio [n=brian@ool-457a9c38.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cbx33 [n=pete@84-45-238-195.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lifeless [n=robertc@dsl-43.1.240.220.rns01-kent-syd.dsl.comindico.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zakame [n=zak@210.213.68.62] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:50] hi === Meyer_ [i=mariomey@ubuntu/member/mariomeyer] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nomed [n=nomed@host146-163.pool8258.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === caravena [n=caravena@164.77.167.5] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Sergi0 [n=serge@ip227-28-166-62.adsl.versatel.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kyral [n=kyral@HyperDream.hamlin.clarkson.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ajmitch__ [n=ajmitch@port162-97.ubs.maxnet.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Bluekuja [n=bluekuja@host15-171.pool8250.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@60.254.67.17] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:21] what does it mean when patch says something like "hunk succeeded with fuzz"? [03:22] does it mean that it all worked ok? or do i need to inspect the changes? [03:22] fuzz could be indicator of a patch gone wrong [03:22] check fuzzy patches, always [03:22] check it just around the fuzz or the rest of the patch too? [03:23] where the fuzz is, in particular [03:23] cool, it looks fine. the patch applied successfully. thanks [03:30] Can someone tell me who is taking care of #6266 ticket [03:31] bug 6626? [03:31] Malone bug 6626 in rhythmbox "rhythmbox: an album added to the queue plays out of order" [Unknown,Unknown] http://launchpad.net/bugs/6626 === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:31] no 6266 [03:31] Hobbsee: hi [03:31] hi Tm_T [03:31] bug 6266 [03:31] Malone bug 6266 in xcircuit "xcircuit version is old" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/6266 [03:31] bug 6266 [03:32] Malone bug 6266 in xcircuit "xcircuit version is old" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/6266 [03:32] oops... [03:32] yes [03:32] =) === Hobbsee isnt dyslexic - really! [03:32] xcircuit? [03:32] Ubugtu: yes [03:32] Tm_T: yes [03:32] tuxmaniac: what's that [03:32] Tm_T: Its a Software for designing Circuits [Electronics] [03:32] aah [03:32] hey! [03:33] looks good [03:34] why I haven't seen this before :o [03:34] tuxmaniac: I'd say noone is [03:34] ajmitch: I just wanted to confim this so that I can try to do something about it.. === ajmitch would probably be interested if it was useful :) [03:35] hehe === Kyral [n=kyral@HyperDream.hamlin.clarkson.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:35] ajmitch: Tm_T : it is useful for Hardware Software Guys [03:36] like me === Tm_T is now doing things around AVR and little LCD display [03:37] Tm_T: Which Software u use to flash AVR Chips? [03:38] tuxmaniac: well, no success yet in Linux, so codevisionavr in windows [03:38] :( [03:39] we spent one day with one pro trying to flash in Linux... 5min with CVavr and whoo, done [03:40] Is there no software in linux for flashing AVRs? [03:40] I mean with proven success? [03:41] whats avr ? [03:41] its a microcontroller [03:41] Se7h: Microcontrller [03:42] Tm_T: Did u ry avrdude [03:42] Did you try avrdude [03:43] hmm, not sure [03:43] I think yes [03:43] Tm_T: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/7289 [03:45] ugh [03:45] thanks === woodwizzle [n=corey@user-0cej715.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === seth [n=seth@ubuntu/member/seth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mitsuhiko [n=nnmitsuh@ringmaster.active-4.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hub [n=hub@storm-gw.xandros.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jdthood [n=jdthood@x116.decis.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zenrox [n=zenrox@71.115.198.118] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kyral [n=kyral@HyperDream.hamlin.clarkson.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === koke [n=koke@ubuntu/member/koke] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TMM [n=hp@ip5650d1ab.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth_ [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Yagisan [n=jamie@60-240-68-200-nsw-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:52] Heya Gang [04:59] G'day bddebian [04:59] Howdy Yagisan === No1Viking [n=Viking@h-83-140-104-3.ip.cust.port80.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:01] bddebian: hows your day been ? [05:03] Yagisan: Not bad since I just woke up. :-) You? === ealden [n=ealden@203.76.212.70] has joined #ubuntu-motu === erez [n=erez@89-138-70-14.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:17] bddebian: exhausted. I spent all day doing my work, and all the cooking, cleaning, and childminding - and it still isn't finished [05:18] It NEVER is :-) === Yagisan sobs quietly === Spec [n=nwheeler@ubuntu/member/spec] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:28] Is it possible to get the '.changes' file from a package in the ubuntu repository? === infinito [n=infinito@VPNPOOL01-0071.UNI-MUENSTER.DE] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Abandonando"] [05:34] Spec: no... why would you want it? [05:36] I wanted to test this local apt repository i'm setting up for someone else [05:36] but I need a program and a .changes file to use dput [05:36] create one yourself :) [05:36] dpkg-buildpackage or debuild creates one for you [05:37] (well, dpkg-genchanges to be exact) === MagnusR [n=magru@c83-250-59-127.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ZuZubuntu-fr [n=ZuZubunt@AVelizy-154-1-47-193.w82-124.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu === FunnyLookinHat [n=FunnyLoo@167.246.8.60] has joined #ubuntu-motu === JohnnyMast [n=rave@84-104-9-27.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cassidy [n=cassidy@physInfo-mac26.ulb.ac.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === iceman [n=iceman@physInfo-mac26.ulb.ac.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === infinito [n=infinito@VPNPOOL01-0071.UNI-MUENSTER.DE] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:21] OK Oh MOTU Gods, how can I symlink dirs? dh_link doesn't seem to like it.. === infinito 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[06:50] crimsun, Ahh ok. I had thought this was mainly for packaging and repository discussion. [06:50] Heya crimsun === rajasun [n=maximusp@bb220-255-207-70.singnet.com.sg] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:51] FunnyHat_Work: it is, and that's a packaging question :) [06:51] bddebian: heya [06:51] OK, I know someone told me this already but how can I add an icon file to a package without regenerating the orig.tar.gz? === bddebian loves talking to himself in here :-) [06:54] bddebian: put it in the .diff.gz [06:55] i.e. somewhere in debian/ and install it in the install: target or via dh_install (unless it doesn't set --srcdir=debian/tmp) [06:56] I'm so nub :) [06:58] azeem: That's what I'm trying to do but I get "unrepresentable changes to ..." problems :-( [06:58] bddebian: you need to uuencode binary data in patches [06:58] and thus also in .diff.gz [06:59] Oh ugh === bddebian is so clueless :-( === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@60.254.67.17] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TMM [n=hp@c51471f2c.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lifeless [n=robertc@dsl-43.1.240.220.rns01-kent-syd.dsl.comindico.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dudus [n=dudus@200.245.31.150] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:14] anyone here? any MOTU :) [07:14] Yo === dudus [n=dudus@200.245.31.150] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Part"] [07:14] ou! :) [07:14] heya! [07:14] one quick q. === bddebian hopes he can answer [07:15] i have new wifi-radar (mostly bugfixes) [07:15] i would like to upload it [07:15] but i'm not sure should i ask for UVF exception [07:15] or just upload [07:15] it is a new version, not new revision [07:15] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-motu/2006-February/000545.html [07:16] oh, thanks === dudus [n=dudus@200.245.31.150] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:17] great procedure [07:17] so, how are you guys? === cbx33 [n=pete@84-45-238-195.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:21] ivoks: busy as always. How's the work going? [07:22] don't ask :( [07:22] i got 20kg in 4 months [07:22] that's 1/4 of my weight before i got job at redhat partner :) [07:22] from 80kg to 100kg :) === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.207.41.251] has joined #ubuntu-motu === herzi [n=herzi@d123041.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === minto [n=minto@12-208-113-68.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === minto [n=minto@12-208-113-68.client.insightBB.com] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] [07:35] in malone, is a debdiff classed as a patch? - when it says tick this box if it's a patch? [07:35] yes. [07:35] (you can apply a debdiff, so it must be a patch) [07:36] ok [07:36] LaserJock said to assign it the motureviewers then [07:36] not motu-reviewers [07:36] did i get the spelling right there? [07:37] yep === lucas [n=lucas@ubuntu/member/lucas] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:37] thanks LaserJock [07:37] did you get my pm? [07:38] what do i change the status to? [07:38] In Progress [07:38] ? [07:38] it was Confirmed [07:39] cbx33: no, I don't think I got the pm. Yeah, In Progress works [07:39] crimsun: how is the packaging guide reviewing going? [07:40] LaserJock: I'm 50% finished with generic/packagingguide/C/basic.xml [07:40] that should be the bulk of it [07:40] crimsun: cool [07:41] yeah === fredix [n=fredix@202.70.97-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:45] w00t [07:45] first bug submitted [07:45] what to go cbx33! [07:46] you didn't get my pm about my other bug? [07:47] resent [07:48] dpatch can work without a 00list? [07:48] looks like it [07:49] bddebian, 00list is needed I think [07:49] well a package I'm working on doesn't have one [07:49] what do i do... [07:50] cbx33: Neither does qgis afaict [07:50] i have to add a patch that modifies something a previous patch does [07:50] is that ok? [07:56] I'd modify the patch, but I'm not sure that's the good way to do this [07:56] what's the good way [07:56] :p [07:57] it' difficult [07:57] i have to apply the patch and then create a new patch from that source :S [07:57] you're right not good....either...this is quite a mess... === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:07] anyideas? === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@60.254.67.17] has joined #ubuntu-motu === kiko [n=kiko@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:28] hello sacred MOTU hackers [08:28] I see, ignoring me [08:29] Hello kiko [08:29] how's it going [08:30] Busy :-) === Mithrandir tickles kiko [08:31] OK, gotta take the kids to the park, later gang [08:31] I'm looking for a motu who can give gtimelog some loving! 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[10:13] ubuntu-desktop depends on it [10:13] enough said [10:13] ubuntu-desktop is fine to remove. It eases dist-upgrades between released Ubuntu versions, though, which is why you'd want to have it installed. [10:13] no it doesn't [10:14] ah i see [10:14] cbx33: there is a Technical Board meeting going on in #ubuntu-meetings if you want to take a peak at the proccess [10:14] in a nutshell [10:14] oooh yes [10:14] ubuntu-desktop contains only dependencies [10:14] thanks LaserJock [10:14] the -Desktop packages exist to pull in the things installed normally with the respective variants [10:15] and when new things are added to the default installs, they get added to the -Desktop package [10:15] i see [10:16] you can remove the -Desktop packages fine, and the software will continue to upgrade. What purpose the -Desktop packages serve once installed is to keep a "standard" set on the computer [10:16] so, anyone got any advice on my little problem with a package I'm trying to fix... [10:16] frankly I dislike the entire concept.... [10:16]