[12:46] <jdong> can I get libxine-dev dependencies for Kaffeine relaxed such that it builds with Breezy?
[12:46] <jdong> the breezy-backports version is currently vulnerable to that buffer overflow, and I'd like to pull in the Dapper version
[12:52] <kmon> byye
[04:20] <Tm_kde4> wellwellwell
[04:21] <OdyX> and what about kde4 Tm_kde4 ?
[04:21] <Tm_kde4> compiling newest kdelibs_snapshot and next kdebase
[04:21] <Tm_kde4> then I try to get Kopete running
[04:22] <Tm_T> fun fun fun!
[04:22] <Tm_kde4> indeed
[04:24] <OdyX> :D
[04:25] <Tm_T> OdyX: what?
[04:25] <OdyX> this is a smiley :-)
[04:25] <OdyX> like agreeing with your visible happiness
[04:25] <Tm_kde4> ..you're laughing to me?!
[04:25] <Tm_T> yes he is
[04:25] <OdyX> not at all.
[04:26] <Tm_T> why not?
[04:26] <Tm_kde4> erm...
[04:26] <OdyX> well...
[04:26] <OdyX> you both confuse me. ...
[04:26] <Tm_T> OdyX: you'll soon see something disturbing =)
[04:27] <OdyX> I'm waiting.
[04:27] <Tm_kde4> you should ;)
[04:32] <Tm_T> OdyX: there's prolly not all, but part of fun: http://www.tm-travolta.net/tekstit/multi-Tm_mess_01.txt
[04:33] <OdyX> :D
[04:34] <OdyX> you play with SSH ?
[04:34] <Tm_T> hmm, that too
[04:34] <OdyX> 'cause you seem to have different hosts...
[04:34] <Tm_T> OdyX: well, that Tm_kde4 is kde4 user in my local pc, using Konsole of KDE4
[04:35] <OdyX> [Whois]  Tm_T est i=tm_travo@xob.kapsi.fi (Jussi Kekkonen)
[04:35] <OdyX> [Whois]  Tm_kde4 est n=kde4@62.216.105.250 (kde4 user)
[04:35] <Tm_T> Tm_K is Kopete me... and myself is running in dedicated web/shell server
[04:35] <OdyX> fun...
[04:35] <Tm_T> I normally never run irc clients in my local pc
[04:36] <Tm_T> because, well, they're reliable to this too much =)
[04:36] <OdyX> why not ?
[04:36] <OdyX> for tracing ?
[04:36] <OdyX> :D
[04:36] <Tm_T> no
[04:36] <Tm_T> but you never know when you have to boot to test new kernel
[04:36] <Tm_T> and then you miss MANY lines of IMPORTANT conversations
[04:36] <Tm_T> ;)
[04:37] <Tm_T> like this one
[04:37] <OdyX> what about logs ?
[04:37] <Tm_T> ah, I collect logs too ofcourse
[04:37] <Tm_T> and then compute stats
[04:37] <Tm_T> if needed
[04:37] <OdyX> :D
[04:37] <Tm_T> http://tmtravolta.kapsi.fi/ircstats/
[04:38] <OdyX> some had cool stats the other day, for #ubuntu-fr, like most speakin' users, more insultin..
[04:38] <Tm_T> =)
[04:38] <OdyX> OK. That's it
[04:38] <Tm_T> yeah
[04:38] <OdyX> what script is that ?
[04:38] <OdyX> IRCStats
[04:38] <Tm_T> well, there's several scripts involved
[04:39] <Tm_T> there's irssi script running in cronjob bash script running IRCstats and moving files around
[04:39] <Tm_T> ah and that happens in my other irssi, running in other dedicated web/shell server
[04:40] <OdyX> pfff....
[04:40] <OdyX> so one has to be logged, huh ?
[04:40] <OdyX> I mean, you cannot make "transparent" stats...
[04:40] <Tm_T> what is located in different town, different ISP, different electric company etc...
[04:40] <Tm_T> OdyX: what's tha
[04:40] <Tm_T> t
[04:41] <OdyX> I mean.. you cannot make stats without an user logged...
[04:41] <Tm_T> no, I'm not irc addicted, just opwer user 24/7
[04:41] <Tm_T> power even
[04:41] <Tm_T> OdyX: never needed such thing
[04:41] <Tm_T> OdyX: this way its better
[04:41] <Tm_T> logs are not only for stats
[04:42] <OdyX> Tm_T: hopefully not.
[04:42] <Tm_T> because you never know when you need...
[04:42] <OdyX> and   ?
[04:42] <Tm_T> that's why I log everything
[04:43] <Tm_T> btw
[04:43] <Tm_T> 05:41 Irssi uptime: 118d 8h 28m 30s
[04:43] <Tm_T> :(
[04:43] <Tm_T> this client is been running only 118 days
[04:43] <freeflying> Tm_T: cool
[04:43] <Tm_T> that's though much more than server I'm using, I think
[04:44] <Tm_T> freenode and their unreliable service ;)
[04:44] <OdyX> ...
[04:44] <Tm_T> though lilo is cool
[04:44] <Tm_T> and sun is rising
[04:45] <Tm_T> ...and I forgot to take medication, again!
[04:45] <OdyX> risin' where you are ?
[04:45] <OdyX> blue pills ?
[04:45] <Tm_T> Eastern Finland
[04:45] <Tm_T> OdyX: small and big white ones =)
[04:45] <OdyX> Tm_T: fun ? I fear not...
[04:45] <OdyX> I'm in Madrid.
[04:46] <Tm_T> OdyX: poor you, you don't have over half meter of snow there
[04:46] <Tm_T> ;-)
[04:46] <OdyX> No.
[04:46] <OdyX> I don't
[04:46] <OdyX> but maybe I'd rather have
[04:46] <OdyX> I'm swiss. :
[04:46] <OdyX> D
[04:46] <Tm_T> you know, finnish summer is short, but atleast not too much snow =)
[04:47] <Tm_T> what a clumsy sentence
[04:47] <OdyX> Yeah.. that's a funny one...
[04:47] <Tm_T> but so true
[04:47] <OdyX> I've been in Iceland last summer...
[04:47] <OdyX> they have great winters.
[04:47] <Tm_T> it's not unusual to have snow fight middle of july
[04:48] <Tm_T> in +25 C heat =)
[04:48] <OdyX> hum..
[04:48] <OdyX> funny
[04:48] <OdyX> definitively funny
[04:48] <Tm_T> all you need is something to cover snow
[04:49] <Tm_T> everything from gravel to wood waste goes
[04:49] <OdyX> why ?
[04:49] <OdyX> to hold it ?
[04:49] <Tm_T> to keep it from melting
[04:50] <OdyX> so what if meltin ?
[04:50] <Tm_T> then no snow
[04:50] <Tm_T> and no fun
[04:50] <Tm_T> and fun ends also when someone get hit by a rock inside snowball
[04:50] <Tm_T> as usual
[04:51] <OdyX> end of fun...
[04:51] <Tm_T> OdyX: or begin =)
[04:51] <OdyX> yeah... then you can send ones again.
[04:52] <Tm_T> yeah
[04:52] <Tm_T> you should see my knees
[04:52] <Tm_T> or how I walk because of my knees, like old man
[04:52] <Tm_T> that's why I'm eating those pills :)
[04:53] <Tm_T> oh well, something it gives, something it takes
[04:53] <OdyX> like quitPainPills ?
[04:53] <Tm_T> like heavy painkillers and nerve drugs
[04:53] <OdyX> because of too many RockSnowBalls ?
[04:53] <OdyX> oh shite..
[04:53] <Tm_T> no
[04:53] <Tm_T> well, uhm
[04:54] <Tm_T> my knees are bad from beginning, but I haven't been careful enough to keep them well enough
[04:54] <OdyX> I know a little of that.
[04:55] <OdyX> I have one bad knee.
[04:55] <Tm_T> yeah, never should hit man-high rock with motorbike, nor play football and get hit by 120kg player or... you name it =)
[04:55] <OdyX> hum...
[04:55] <OdyX> trampoline was even too much for my right one.
[04:56] <Tm_T> me and my cousin used to jump down from 5-meter high tree
[04:57] <Tm_T> oh yes, I once ran down from hill, whoops, big rock in the middle of path, whoops, to time to stop whoooops, *HIT*
[04:57] <OdyX> *ouch*
[04:57] <Tm_T> ...and no wieght to my left leg in next 2 months
[04:57] <OdyX> do you understand "barbel" ?
[04:57] <Tm_T> hmm, no
[04:58] <OdyX> it like barriers in metal that hurt a lot...
[04:58] <Tm_T> ah
[04:58] <OdyX> don't know the words in english...
[04:58] <Tm_T> also broke all toes from right leg with bicycle
[04:59] <OdyX> how could you make all that ??
[04:59] <OdyX> that's unbelievable...
[04:59] <Tm_T> actually most of flesh got rip off from top of the toes
[04:59] <Tm_T> OdyX: ah, all you have to do is slip leg from pedal, drop from bench, drag leg against asphalt some 100m and well, finally stop
[04:59] <Tm_T> and no, no shoes
[05:00] <OdyX> Ok...
[05:00] <OdyX> shoes is bad..
[05:00] <Tm_T> yeah =)
[05:00] <Tm_T> glad I use biker boots
[05:00] <OdyX> friend of mine fell at like ~80 km/h down from swiss hill...
[05:00] <Tm_T> sounds, err, exciting for a moment
[05:01] <OdyX> like all the skin went off from head to foot on one side.
[05:01] <Tm_T> ....aaand the fun is over
[05:01] <OdyX> mega-over !
[05:01] <Tm_T> indeed
[05:02] <Tm_T> funny thing is, I've never had gypsun or anything...
[05:02] <Tm_T> also had 2 possible skull cracks
[05:02] <Tm_T> doctors weren't sure :p
[05:02] <Tm_T> ah, what else...
[05:03] <Tm_T> hmm, over 20 concussions
[05:03] <Tm_T> ...yeah, I hit my head too easily
[05:03] <Tm_T> and knees too
[05:05] <Tm_T> if I we're big, sporty guy, I would be like a small hero, but nooo
[05:05] <Tm_T> finnish culture :p
[05:05] <OdyX> tsss
[05:05] <OdyX> it's like funny culture
[05:05] <OdyX> but visibly bad results
[05:06] <Tm_T> you know, viking blood
[05:06] <OdyX> my culture is more "no risk"
[05:06] <Tm_T> OdyX: ah, and I don't even use alcohol!
[05:06] <OdyX> Tm_T: for desinfection or inside desinfection ?
[05:06] <Tm_T> more later
[05:07] <Tm_T> it's shame how much finnish people drink to get drunk
[05:08] <Tm_T> and again, I need my medication, so time to stop this BS ;) ->
[05:10] <OdyX> So
[05:10] <OdyX> have a good medication
[09:00] <kameron> howdy.
[09:59] <Lure> Riddell: if we use debian source package as-is (no Ubuntu specific changes), do we still append ubuntuX to version or just leave the debian version?
[09:59] <Hobbsee> Lure: it goes to ubuntuX
[10:00] <Hobbsee> and "unstable" in the changelog gets changed to dapper...
[10:00] <Lure> so all packages in Ubuntu should have ubuntuX postfix if they are based on debian (and are not unique to Ubuntu, like k-d-s or similar)
[10:00] <Hobbsee> no...wait...
[10:01] <Hobbsee> if it's in debian, as is, then why are you repackaging it anyway?
[10:01] <freeflying> Lure: if no changes for ubuntu , you needn't append it 
[10:01] <Hobbsee> it's supposed to be -0ubuntu1 if not already in ubuntu, or -XubuntuY for if it's in debian...
[10:03] <Lure> -0ubuntu1 if not in debian, correct? ;-)
[10:04] <freeflying> Lure: y
[10:06] <Hobbsee> hehe!
[10:06] <Tm_T> hmmmhhh
[10:06] <Tm_T> pain
[10:06] <mornfall> hmm?
[10:07] <Tm_T> I can make KDE4 stuff compile, but not KDE 3.5 =)
[10:07] <Hobbsee> hehe
[10:08] <Tm_T> but as long as I don't get confirmation I can't fixthe problem
[10:08] <Tm_T> from svn that is
[10:12] <Tm_kde4> haha
[10:12] <Tm_kde4> klauncher crashed =)
[10:12] <Tm_kde4> but, err, why I even had it running? :o
[10:12] <Tm_kde4> supposed to be only konsole
[10:21] <kameron> i realized.. i don't have kde source installed, what packages should i grab?
[10:21] <Tm_kde4> well, what do you need?
[10:21] <kameron> the kde base source?
[10:22] <Tm_kde4> hmm, why you need it?
[10:22] <Tm_kde4> kameron: and if you need it, I suggest svn
[10:23] <kameron> edit some things, see about getting the X-KDE-Protocol functions working.
[10:23] <kameron> svn?
[10:23] <Tm_kde4> yes
[10:23] <Tm_kde4> you know, system we developers use to share development code
[10:23] <Tm_kde4> also good for test users
[10:23] <Tm_kde4> anonsvn <3
[10:23] <kameron> i'm new to a lot of this, just getting into it today.
[10:23] <Tm_kde4> heh
[10:24] <jpatrick> morning
[10:24] <Tm_T> jpatrick: morning :)
[10:24] <kameron> oh, svn is like cvs?
[10:24] <jpatrick> hmm, two Tm_T's
[10:25] <Tm_T> kameron: yes
[10:25] <Tm_T> jpatrick: where? how much have you drink already?
[10:25] <Tm_T> british... always drunk
[10:25] <jpatrick> Tm_T && Tm_kde4
[10:26] <Tm_kde4> nooo
[10:26] <Tm_kde4> now you're messing things
[10:26] <Tm_T> Tm_kde4: stfu
[10:26] <Tm_kde4> ok...
[10:26] <Tm_T> jpatrick: not that I'm bored or anything =)
[10:27] <jpatrick> so \sh's left?
[10:27] <jpatrick> congrats freeflying
[10:27] <freeflying> jpatrick: thx
[10:27] <Tm_T> jpatrick: left?
[10:27] <freeflying> Tm_T:  \sh 
[10:28] <Tm_T> yes, but left? from some time or totally?
[10:28] <jpatrick> Tm_T: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-April/017179.html
[10:29] <Tm_T> sad...
[10:29] <Tm_T> have to use some time to check things
[10:31] <kameron> Tm_T, does kubuntu have kde source packaged in repos?
[10:31] <jpatrick> kameron: yes
[10:31] <Tm_T> kameron: sure
[10:31] <Tm_T> kameron: "apt get source kdebase" for example
[10:31] <kameron> ah, cool.
[10:31] <jpatrick> apt-get*
[10:31] <kameron> yeah.
[10:32] <Tm_T> kameron: just make sure you're in dir where you like to save those sources
[10:32] <freeflying> kameron: you'd add deb-src to sources firstly
[10:32] <kameron> is this way out of date, compared to grabbing latest cvs/svn?
[10:32] <Tm_T> jpatrick: thanks =)
[10:32] <kameron> deb-src's already added.
[10:32] <Tm_T> kameron: well, it's latest release you get =)
[10:32] <Tm_T> kameron: so prolly not big difference
[10:32] <kameron> cool.
[10:33] <kameron> brb
[10:46] <Hobbsee> yay!  koffice released!
[10:46] <Tm_T> yeah
[10:46] <Tm_T> 1.6 will be interesting
[10:46] <jpatrick> wow
[10:47] <jpatrick> now I can package kexi-mdb
[10:48] <kameron> how do you guys like koffice as opposed to OOo?
[10:49] <jpatrick> kameron: because it's KDE-based
[10:49] <kameron> i mean.. what i'm asking is, do you guys like it better, if so why, or why not, etc.
[10:50] <jpatrick> i prefer KOffice because 1) it's faster 2) Looks prettier on my KDesktop
[10:51] <kameron> i don't think i've ever used it.
[10:51] <jpatrick> Riddell: want some help packaging?
[10:54] <Tm_T> jpatrick: and best of all, it works =)
[10:55] <kameron> ohh, i remember using it my last year of highschool for some history repots.. it was clean. but this is like.. a few years ago. i should give it another go once all this source is down.
[10:56] <jpatrick> X froze again
[10:59] <jpatrick> bonjour raphink
[11:00] <Tm_T> raphink: yay!
[11:01] <raphink> hi
[11:02] <freeflying> raphink: hi
[11:02] <raphink> hi freeflying. congrats for your devness
[11:03] <freeflying> raphink: thx  :)
[11:03] <jpatrick> raphink: now \sh's gone
[11:04] <raphink> for a while at least
[11:04] <jpatrick> yeah
[11:05] <raphink> I hope he can act something out in his life and come back later
[11:07] <Tm_T> nooooooo!
[11:07] <Tm_T> I lost my another main client :(
[11:08] <jpatrick> now we have two core-dev's
[11:08] <Tm_T> oh noes, my life is in ruins ;-(
[11:09] <Tm_T> AAH! back! <3
[11:10] <jpatrick> ...no comment...
[11:10] <Tm_T> =)
[11:10] <Tm_T> Jozo_: ah you too
[11:12] <raphink> jpatrick: which is why I've applied basically
[11:18] <jpatrick> http://kubuntu.org/packages/koffice-15/ <- wahey
[11:25] <jpatrick> np: "Dani California" | Red Hot Chili Peppers - Stadium Arcadium [amaroK] 
[11:26] <Riddell> Lure: just leave the debian number, but in that case we just sync directly from debian
[11:27] <Riddell> jpatrick: packaging what?
[11:27] <jpatrick> Riddell: You've already done KOffice
[11:29] <Lure> Riddell: in the meantime I got another fix to include, so it will be ubuntu1 ;-)
[11:38] <Riddell> Lure: of what?
[12:06] <raphink> Riddell: hi
[12:07] <raphink> Riddell: how do we import messages from http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/l10n/fr/messages/playground-sysadmin/desktop_playground-sysadmin.po?rev=527530&view=log ?
[12:07] <raphink> the desktop files translations for adept are there
[12:14] <jpatrick> netsplit-ish
[12:16] <Riddell> raphink: we'll make sure to include them in the next adept upload
[12:16] <Riddell> raphink: we need to do something similar for system settings
[12:16] <raphink> Riddell: would you like me to sync them some time?
[12:16] <raphink> yes indeed
[12:16] <Riddell> raphink: sync what?
[12:16] <raphink> sync this file from svn
[12:17] <raphink> or shall we wait for the next sync of the whole program ?
[12:17] <Riddell> just wait for the next release
[12:18] <raphink> ok
[12:20] <Tm_T> =)
[12:33] <Lure> Riddell: kpowersave fix
[12:34] <Riddell> jpatrick: where?
[12:37] <jpatrick> Riddell: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/dapper/+source/katapult/+translations
[01:08] <freeflying> jpatrick: how to use katapault (configure)
[01:11] <jpatrick> freeflying: what?
[01:12] <freeflying> jpatrick: how to configure katapault ( a stupid question)  :)
[01:12] <jpatrick> right-click the system-tray icon
[01:13] <OculusAquilae> freeflying: ctrl+c
[01:13] <freeflying> OculusAquilae: jpatrick  thx
[01:13] <OculusAquilae> if there's no systray-icon
[01:14] <freeflying> OculusAquilae: got it 
[01:34] <jpatrick> hola OdyX
[01:39] <OdyX> hola jpatrick
[02:03] <jeroenvrp> good afternoon 
[02:04] <jpatrick> jeroenvrp: good afternoon
[02:04] <jeroenvrp> question: is beagle/kerry installed by default in Kubunti dapper?!
[02:05] <Riddell> jeroenvrp: no
[02:05] <jeroenvrp> pff ok
[02:05] <jeroenvrp> cause I really think beagle has some major problmes
[02:05] <jeroenvrp> at least with kontact
[02:06] <Riddell> what's that?
[02:06] <jeroenvrp> when I start kontact and kmail is getting all the mail (thats a lot, incl mailinglists), beagled is almost locking my session
[02:06] <jeroenvrp> I think because of all the mail comming in
[02:06] <OdyXydO> I think the biggest issue with beagle is the fact that it installs half of gnome...
[02:07] <jeroenvrp> its a maildir and maybe beagle doesnt handle that very nice
[02:07] <Riddell> probably need to exclude the e-mail directory from beagle or something
[02:08] <jeroenvrp> yes but than I cant find my mails anymore
[02:08] <jeroenvrp> in beagle
[02:08] <marseillai_> Tm_kde4: you compiled kde4 ?
[02:09] <OdyXydO> He did.. :D
[02:10] <jpatrick> OdyXydO: I'm working on that
[02:10] <jeroenvrp> anyhow, I think beagle is not reeady for the KDE-desktop yet
[02:11] <apokryphos> needs its backend to be a little more split from gtk to run properly
[02:12] <OdyXydO> jpatrick: and what about Kat ?
[02:12] <marseillai> pouarf ......;
[02:12] <marseillai> kat is too buggy! :s
[02:12] <jeroenvrp> it comsumes to much resourses, it doesnt understand maildir very well, p2p incoming directories, is locking up during encoding of videofiles, etc
[02:12] <jpatrick> OdyX: marseillai++
[02:13] <jeroenvrp> locate works well :-)
[02:13] <apokryphos> yeah, it's still very problematic, as good as the dream sounds
[02:13] <OdyX> jpatrick: I know.. I tested it on his request
[02:15] <marseillai> jpatrick: but in my opinion kat promise a lot! more than beagle! beagle seems to be only a toy! kat want to make a real index with good meta data end inotify kernel module. with the addition of tenor and when it will works it will be really great! but for the moment it doesn"t work at all!
[02:20] <jeroenvrp> anyhow I'm removing beagle right now and I will keep my eyes on Kat
[02:28] <OdyX> jeroenvrp: as we discussed that the other day on #kubuntu-fr, finally, the better way to find your stuff rapidly is to have it well ordered...
[02:31] <jeroenvrp> OdyX: absolutely
[02:32] <jeroenvrp> but I still like the idea
[02:32] <jeroenvrp> I'm looking to the Kat homepage right now and Kat real looks promising, I see it has Mandriva support now
[02:32] <jeroenvrp> maybe Kubuntu should also support it
[02:33] <jeroenvrp> the new version 0.6.4 also has a lot of fixes I see
[02:34] <OdyX> jeroenvrp: so what about packagin' ?
[02:34] <jeroenvrp> OdyX: what you mean?
[02:35] <OdyX> jeroenvrp: makin' last version's package for (K)Ubuntu
[02:35] <jeroenvrp> ooh
[02:35] <marseillai> kat since the start of his development has allways many bug fixes at each releases! but at each releases there is always so many new bugs ....
[02:36] <jeroenvrp> I'm not have had the time to eat that knowledge yet :-)
[02:36] <OdyX> jeroenvrp: I don't even.
[02:36] <freeflying-ibook> marseillai: ++
[02:37] <marseillai> perhaps one day we will have a bug free release....
[02:37] <marseillai> but i think that the kat-dev only want an indexer application .....
[02:37] <freeflying-ibook> marseillai: hope so 
[02:37] <marseillai> he will use this in tenor 
[02:38] <marseillai> kat has indexer "back-end" and tenor as search front-end!
[02:40] <marseillai> really hard to find beginner tutorials for c++/kde/kdevelop ......
[02:41] <jeroenvrp> kat changelog 0.6.4: Added debian package fulltext search plAdded debian package fulltext search pluginugin
[02:41] <jeroenvrp> that looks promising
[02:41] <jeroenvrp> I will try to compile it
[02:45] <Riddell> 0.6.4 had problems so we decided not to use it
[02:45] <marseillai> what sort of problems?
[02:45] <Riddell> can't actually remember just now
[02:46] <Riddell> mandriva had to issue a lot of fixes because of kat
[02:46] <marseillai> Riddell: because even if he had problems kat 0.6.3 don't start on several computers ........
[02:46] <marseillai> so it can not be worse with 0.6.4 in my mind
[02:47] <jeroenvrp> yes especially because I see Mandrive fixed a few annoying bugs
[02:47] <marseillai> OdyX: can launch the kat daemon neither
[02:47] <jeroenvrp> anyhow I?do a make right now, I will see if there are problems
[02:48] <jeroenvrp> mmm I see the date of 0.6.4: October 10, 2005
[02:49] <jeroenvrp> :-(
[02:49] <marseillai> yes
[02:49] <jeroenvrp> thats a bad sign
[02:49] <marseillai> but 0.7.0 is on the way
[02:49] <marseillai> and kat-svn is allways active
[02:50] <Lure> any ppc user that can test build of powersave/kpowersave on PPC?
[02:51] <jeroenvrp> marseillai: I'm browsing svn right now, but cant find any recent activity
[02:52] <jeroenvrp> 2-3 weeks ago I see the latest activity
[02:54] <jeroenvrp> marseillai: do you know when 0.7.0 will be released and can I compile a SVN-version without any major problems right now?
[02:57] <Lure> freeflying: you are also ppc user? can I ask you to try building powersave/kpowersave on ppc? (some reports of failures)
[02:57] <freeflying> Lure: i'd like to
[02:58] <Lure> freeflying: great - you can get source packages from Tonio's repo: http://kubuntu.no-ip.org/
[02:58] <freeflying> Lure: I can not access to Tonio's site  :)
[02:58] <Lure> really?
[02:59] <freeflying> Lure: so would you like mail me 
[02:59] <Lure> I can - which e-mail address?
[02:59] <freeflying> zhengpeng-hou AT ubuntu DOT com
[03:00] <jeroenvrp> marseillai: I see the 0.7.0 target dat, its march 2006
[03:04] <jeroenvrp> kat 0.6.4 crashes hile starting teh daemon, something with SQLITE_MISUSE[21] : library routine called out of sequence
[03:04] <jeroenvrp> so I wait for 0.7.0
[03:06] <marseillai> jeroenvrp: from svn 0.6.5 is out and 0.7.0 on the way
[03:06] <Lure> freeflying: sent - thanks!
[03:07] <freeflying> Lure: okey
[03:07] <jeroenvrp> marseillai: any idea of a date for 0.7.0
[03:07] <jeroenvrp> ?
[03:07] <marseillai> nop
[03:08] <jeroenvrp> ok than we wait :-)
[03:14] <freeflying> Lure: the patch shall be used ?
[03:19] <Lure> freeflying: try withou patch, if it fails apply patch
[03:26] <OdyX> Riddell: koffice-latest is up-2-date on kubuntu.org ?
[03:26] <Hobbsee> OdyX: it is now, supposedly
[03:26] <Riddell> OdyX: should be
[03:28] <OdyX> It is. Thanks
[03:33] <marseillai> Riddell: i've install kspread alone and this what i have when i try to launch it : 
[03:33] <marseillai> koffice (lib kofficecore): ERROR: kspreadpart.desktop not found.
[03:33] <marseillai> koffice (lib kofficecore): ERROR: Run 'kde-config --path services' to see which directories were searched, assuming kde startup had the same environment as your current shell.
[03:33] <marseillai> koffice (lib kofficecore): ERROR: Check your installation (did you install KOffice in a different prefix than KDE, without adding the prefix to /etc/kderc ?)
[03:34] <marseillai> got the same error if i install all koffice
[03:35] <Riddell> curious, works for me
[03:35] <marseillai> don't know why it doesn't work
[03:35] <marseillai> i had krita before
[03:36] <marseillai> and it still works
[03:36] <marseillai> but the rest of koffice don't works : kword, kspread ....
[03:37] <Riddell> does it have /usr/share/services/kspreadpart.desktop ?
[03:38] <Riddell> and what does `kde-config --path services`  say?
[03:38] <marseillai> kde-config --path services
[03:38] <marseillai> /home/cyril/.kde/share/services/:/usr/share/services/
[03:38] <marseillai> ls /usr/share/services/kspreadpart*
[03:38] <marseillai> /usr/share/services/kspreadpart.desktop
[03:45] <freeflying> Lure: ping
[03:45] <Lure> freeflying: pong
[03:45] <freeflying> Lure: done
[03:45] <Lure> no pb?
[03:45] <freeflying> Lure:  ya
[03:45] <freeflying> Lure: where can Iupload
[03:46] <Lure> You can send me .deb over e-mail and I will put to Tonio's page
[03:46] <Lure> thank you very much
[03:46] <freeflying> Lure: ok
[03:48] <OdyX> cr
[03:49] <OdyX> oups
[03:49] <Tm_T> cr to you too
[03:51] <freeflying> Riddell: will you ask koffice-1.5 for UVFe
[04:00] <Riddell> marseillai: run kbuildsycoca and try loading kspread again
[04:10] <marseillai> Riddell: kbuildsycoca gives two errors : kbuildsycoca: ERROR writing database '/var/tmp/kdecache-cyril/ksycoca'! and kbuildsycoca: Disk full? and kspread gives the same error!
[04:12] <Riddell> freeflying: yes, if there's no problems with it.  have you tested it?
[04:12] <Riddell> marseillai: so that's the problem.  now we just need to find out what's causing that
[04:13] <OdyX> marseillai: is your disk full ??
[04:14] <marseillai> nop
[04:16] <marseillai> Riddell: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/655647
[04:19] <OdyX> Riddell: default for Dapper will be Kaffeine or Kmplayer ?
[04:23] <Riddell> OdyX: kaffeine for player and hopefully kmplayer for konqueror plugin
[04:23] <OdyX> OK
[04:23] <OdyX> so both...
[04:23] <OdyX> :D
[04:23] <OdyX> is kmplayer ever translatable ?
[04:25] <Riddell> should be, it's in KDE's SVN
[04:25] <Riddell> not that there's many user visible strings for the plugin
[04:26] <OdyX> Riddell: well.. all kmplayer's interface...
[04:27] <freeflying> Riddell: works fine here
[04:28] <Riddell> freeflying: great
[04:29] <Riddell> freeflying: how do I test skim?
[04:30] <freeflying> Riddell: have you ever install any modules
[04:30] <Riddell> I just installed the scim-hangul one
[04:30] <Riddell> and Korean has appeared in the Configure options
[04:31] <freeflying> Riddell: you also install the korean language support
[04:32] <freeflying> Riddell: then do "im-switch -s scim " it will set it under &HOME/.input.d/
[04:35] <freeflying> Riddell: im-switch -z en_US -s scim
[04:35] <jjesse> Riddell: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuDapperBeta
[04:37] <Riddell> jjesse: cool
[04:38] <Riddell> im-switch -s scim
[04:38] <Riddell> No xinput.d config for scim available.
[04:38] <Riddell> freeflying: ^^
[04:38] <freeflying> Riddell: just got a bug on im-switch 
[04:39] <Riddell> oh, great
[04:39] <freeflying> Riddell: im-switch needs libapt-pkg-perl
[04:39] <freeflying> Riddell: libapt-pkg-perl is in universe 
[04:40] <freeflying> Riddell: I'd write a maininclusionreport for libapt-pkg-perl
[04:40] <freeflying> Riddell: can I do it now >
[04:41] <Riddell> I still get No xinput.d config for scim available.
[04:42] <freeflying> Riddell: then just link en_US in input.d to /etc/X11/xinit/xinput.d/scim
[04:44] <freeflying> Riddell: libapt-apt-perl can not be in main , it's dependncy has problems 
[05:00] <Riddell> freeflying: ok, got it working on the command line
[05:00] <Riddell> freeflying: how do I get skim to do it's thing?
[05:00] <freeflying> Riddell: Ctrl+Space
[05:02] <Riddell> hmm, doesn't seem to work
[05:02] <freeflying> Riddell: skim is stay in system tray ?
[05:03] <Riddell> freeflying: yep
[05:03] <freeflying> a keyboad icon ?
[05:06] <Riddell> nope
[05:06] <Riddell> do I need to set my keyboard then?
[05:07] <OdyX> Hey. Somebody experiencing bad Konqueror comportement with Launchpad? Like middle-click on a bug. The bug goes in new background tab (as excepted), but then "plops" (comes foreground).
[05:09] <freeflying> Riddell: if not a keyboard, then skim can not be use , you'd restar X
[05:10] <Riddell> freeflying: so I have konqueror loading in japanese and skim sitting in my systray and a keyboard icon in the systray set to japanese
[05:10] <Riddell> and skim says it has a japanese button
[05:11] <Riddell> but control-space does nothing
[05:11] <freeflying> Riddell: installed scim-anthy or scim-hangul 
[05:12] <Riddell> anthy is installed
[05:12] <Huahua> hi, Riddell 
[05:13] <Riddell> hi Huahua 
[05:14] <freeflying> Riddell: you have skim scim-anthy im-switch installed ,but can not run it now ?
[05:16] <Riddell> freeflying: yep
[05:16] <freeflying> Riddell: also scim-qtimm? so will you show me "env |grep scim " 
[05:17] <Riddell> env |grep scim   is empty
[05:18] <freeflying> Riddell: 
[05:18] <freeflying> XIM=SCIM
[05:18] <freeflying> if [ -e /usr/bin/skim ]  ;then XIM_PROGRAM=/usr/bin/skim
[05:19] <freeflying> else
[05:19] <freeflying>    XIM_PROGRAM=/usr/bin/scim
[05:19] <freeflying> fi
[05:19] <freeflying> XIM_ARGS="-d"
[05:19] <freeflying> GTK_IM_MODULE=scim-bridge
[05:19] <freeflying> QT_IM_MODULE=scim
[05:19] <freeflying> DEPENDS="scim | skim,scim-gtk2-immodule | scim-qtimm"
[05:19] <Riddell> freeflying: where is that?
[05:20] <freeflying> put this into ./input.d/en_US
[05:20] <freeflying> $HOME/.input.d/
[05:23] <seaLne> is it really hard to get things on fridge?
[05:25] <Riddell> seaLne: nope, e-mail fridge-devel at lists.ubuntu.com
[05:26] <freeflying> Riddell: are you ok with skim now 
[05:26] <Riddell> and I can put it on kubuntu.org then dot.kde.org
[05:26] <Riddell> freeflying: still not working
[05:27] <freeflying> Riddell: which locale r u using now ?
[05:27] <Riddell> ja_JP.UTF-8
[05:28] <freeflying> Riddell: turn it back to en_US , and restart X , confirm you have en_US in $HOME/.input.d/
[05:28] <freeflying> and with the conten I paste above 
[05:29] <seaLne> Riddell: i did this morning, maybe i'm just impatiant
[05:30] <freeflying> Riddell: if you have any problem , Huahua can give you advice , I'd bed now , nights all
[05:34] <Riddell> seaLne: well the editors are on AU and US time so may not be active yet
[05:34] <Riddell> seaLne: poke whiprush and/or jdub if you want
[05:35] <seaLne> k, no rush i suppose :)
[05:37] <Huahua> Riddell: the file:  ~/.xinirc or ~/.xsession  will cause interference with  im-switch so you need make sure that you have deleted files:  ~/.xinirc and ~/.xsession 
[05:38] <Riddell> yep, do not have them
[05:39] <Riddell> do have ./input.d/en_US and en_GB
[05:39] <Riddell> all new X session running now
[05:39] <Riddell> QT_IM_MODULE=scim has set itself
[05:40] <Huahua> strange
[05:41] <marseillai> Riddell: an idea for my kbuildsycoca bug ?
[05:41] <Riddell> marseillai: check file permissions?
[05:41] <Riddell> marseillai: delete it and run again?
[05:41] <marseillai> wich files ???
[05:41] <Huahua> Riddell: try  ln -s /etc/X11/xinit/xinput.d/scim-anthy    ~/.input.d/default   ?
[05:44] <Riddell> Huahua: nope, does not help
[05:44] <marseillai> Riddell: check permission for wich file? delete what and run angain? ... i don't understand ....
[05:45] <Huahua> strange
[05:45] <Riddell> Huahua: I should just be able to press control-space and skim should pop up yes?
[05:45] <Riddell> marseillai: the kbuildsycoca database
[05:45] <Huahua> yep
[05:46] <marseillai> Riddell: should i dpkg -purge kbuildsycoca ??
[05:47] <Riddell> marseillai: no
[05:58] <OdyX> Could one confirm bug 39312 ?
[05:58] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 39312 in kdebase konqueror "BAD tab comportements in Launchpad (and others)" [Normal,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/39312
[06:08] <marseillai> riddell i've got a real big bug. i've try to reboot. then kdm launch ask my password then tell me that X can not be laucnh because it can't write in /tmp but i got the permission to write on /tmp .....
[06:10] <marseillai> i can start kde only with sans chec mode
[06:20] <marseillai> right
[06:20] <marseillai> i think i've solve my problem
[06:20] <marseillai> try to come back
[06:20] <OdyX> what was that ?
[06:22] <marseillai> stupid me!!!!
[06:22] <marseillai> so so so stupid
[06:23] <marseillai> i checked all my partition to see why kbuildsycoca told me i've no more place! but not my / partition .....
[06:24] <Riddell> marseillai: it was a disk space problem?
[06:24] <marseillai> for the boot yes
[06:24] <marseillai> apt-get autoclean resolve this
[06:24] <marseillai> should be in a cron .......
[06:24] <Riddell> ok, new wishlist item, a "you are running out of disk space" notification :)
[06:24] <marseillai> thought it was in a cron
[06:25] <marseillai> Riddell: apt-get autoclean should be in a cron at least cron.monthly ......
[06:25] <marseillai> i hab more than 2 giga of archives .......
[06:25] <marseillai> :s
[06:25] <Riddell> hello sredna 
[06:25] <sredna> Hello
[06:26] <jpatrick> sredna: should I add kate session menu to my TODO?
[06:26] <marseillai> and now of course kspread works
[06:26] <sredna> jpatrick: Na, let me work on that
[06:26] <jpatrick> ok
[06:47] <Tonio_> hi everyone
[06:48] <Riddell> hi Tonio_ 
[06:49] <Tonio_> Riddell: I finally got answers from wengophone devs and theyy have "propper" tarballs from the NGversion
[06:49] <Tonio_> Riddell: I'm looking if we can do something with this :)
[06:49] <Riddell> gosh
[06:49] <Tonio_> Riddell: is the freeze for tomorrow ?
[06:49] <Riddell> hmm, yes
[06:49] <Riddell> everyone stop distracting me from espresso please :)
[06:50] <Tonio_> Riddell: what does this freeze concerns ?
[06:50] <Tonio_> Riddell: oups, sorry ;) go dev !!!
[06:50] <Riddell> Tonio_: I'm not too sure honestly, I think everything really
[06:51] <Tonio_> Riddell: so we have to look at main inclusions reports and maybe kaffeine today..........
[06:51] <Riddell> Tonio_: pitti said he'd do it
[06:51] <Tonio_> Riddell: great ;)
[06:52] <Tonio_> Riddell: and last (after I leave you alone), did you state about kaffeine ? resolving kio's bug is really important....
[06:52] <Riddell> Tonio_: I uploaded a version today with X-KDE-Protocols which seems to fix it, let me know if it works for you
[06:54] <Tonio_> Riddell: I will ;) thanks and sorry for distracting you ;)
[06:55] <Tm_T> that was amusing, Kopete from trunk =)
[07:23] <jpatrick> finally kmediafactory's building.....
[07:32] <Tonio_> jpatrick: I'm porting the debian wengophone package........
[07:33] <Tonio_> jpatrick: If we revu it toonight, we have a chance to have it in universe before freeze
[07:33] <Tonio_> jpatrick: will you have time to revu ?
[07:33] <jpatrick> Tonio_: yes,
[07:33] <Tonio_> jpatrick: great
[07:34] <jpatrick> i need someone to revu my kmediafactory
[07:34] <Tonio_> jpatrick: let's go :)
[07:35] <jpatrick> uploaded to revu
[07:37] <Tonio_> jpatrick: let's wait a bit :)
[07:38] <jpatrick> done uploading
[07:40] <Tonio_> jpatrick: no man ?
[07:41] <jpatrick> Tonio_: working on that
[07:41] <Tonio_> jpatrick: ok ;)
[07:41] <Tonio_> jpatrick: first look is nice, but I need to wait building wengophone to test :)
[07:41] <jpatrick> Tonio_: I'll build it on revu
[07:42] <Tonio_> jpatrick: do you have access to revu tools ?
[07:42] <jpatrick> yes
[07:43] <Tonio_> great ;)
[07:49] <jpatrick> damn, this takes long to build
[07:52] <sredna> jpatrick: I submitted my gpg key, but nothing came back yet
[07:53] <jpatrick> sredna: trying asking ajmitch in #ubuntu-motu
[07:54] <sredna> jpatrick: I assume someone will add it when they have time
[07:55] <jpatrick> yes
[07:57] <jpatrick> sredna: i think raphink can help you
[07:59] <jpatrick> Tonio_: done building
[08:01] <Tonio_> jpatrick: great ;)
[08:01] <Tonio_> jpatrick: I'm polishing wengophone quickly and revu your package
[08:21] <Tonio_> jpatrick: revuing kmediathing :)
[08:21] <jpatrick> :)
[08:21] <Tonio_> jpatrick: any time to revu wengophone ?
[08:22] <jpatrick> sure
[08:22] <Tonio_> just uploading now
[08:25] <jpatrick> I see it
[08:26] <jpatrick> running revu-report
[08:27] <jpatrick> why debhelper 4?
[08:28] <jpatrick> oh debian choice
[08:29] <jpatrick> Tonio_: looks good to me
[08:31] <Tonio_> jpatrick: great ;)
[08:31] <Tonio_> jpatrick: we need to find another revuer ;)
[08:31] <jpatrick> you
[08:31] <jpatrick> ;)
[08:31] <Riddell> tsk, he can't review his own package
[08:31] <Riddell> raphink?
[08:32] <raphink> Riddell: yes?
[08:32] <jpatrick> raphink: ^
[08:32] <Riddell> able to review wenga?
[08:32] <raphink> not right now
[08:32] <raphink> but in a short time I guess
[08:32] <raphink> can't jpatrick review it?
[08:32] <raphink> or Tonio_?
[08:32] <jpatrick> just did
[08:32] <jpatrick> it's his
[08:32] <raphink> ah ok
[08:32] <raphink> oh openwengo
[08:32] <raphink> right
[08:32] <raphink> I'll review it 
[08:32] <raphink> not right now ;)
[08:33] <Tonio_> http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2270
[08:33] <Tonio_> jpatrick: still little improvements, but nothing important
[08:34] <Tonio_> raphink: freeze tomorrow
[08:34] <raphink> which freeze?
[08:34] <Tonio_> raphink: not sure, but I think it will not be possible to upload new packages
[08:34] <raphink> ah
[08:34] <Tonio_> raphink: no idea, but Riddell told me about "total freeze"
[08:35] <raphink> feature freeze again ?
[08:35] <jpatrick> damnsW, upper time....
[08:35] <raphink> ;)
[08:35] <Riddell> I'm just guessing
[08:35] <Tonio_> meaning appart from bugfixes, everything will be frozen.....
[08:35] <Riddell> it may well not affect universe
[08:35] <jjesse> so screen shots and stuff like that can be taken?
[08:35] <raphink> Riddell: do you have a UVFe for Koffice 1.5 ?
[08:35] <Tonio_> Riddell: hum..... I searched but didn't find anything concerning the details of what is frozen and what's not
[08:35] <crimsun> tomorrow is beta freeze
[08:35] <Tonio_> Riddell: I just ported the new wengophone debian package ;)
[08:35] <Tonio_> Riddell: ^^
[08:35] <Riddell> raphink: nope, fancy doing one?
[08:36] <raphink> Riddell: well I think many people would like that
[08:36] <raphink> although I reckon it snot very stable
[08:37] <raphink> yes
[08:37] <raphink> if it works well enough
[08:37] <Riddell> Tonio_: ever tried printing from kword?
[08:38] <jjesse> has printing been fixed in dapper for cups yet?
[08:38] <Riddell> jjesse: nope
[08:38] <Tonio_> Riddell: nope, is there a problem with it ?
[08:38] <Riddell> which I guess solved the kword printing problems :)
[08:38] <Riddell> Tonio_: I believe is messes up fonts and kerning a lot
[08:38] <Tonio_> Riddell: I remember printing with it a few month ago, I don't remember such issues.....
[08:39] <Riddell> Tonio_: maybe I'm just hearing malitious rumours hten
[08:39] <Riddell> then
[08:39] <Tonio_> Riddell: will cups 1.1 packages by available if cups isn't fix before june ?
[08:39] <Tonio_> cause this error is pretty old now..........
[08:41] <Tonio_> raphink: french application ported by a french motu needs a french revuer !!!!!!!
[08:41] <Riddell> Tonio_: yes
[08:41] <Tonio_> Riddell: ^^
[08:41] <Riddell> Tonio_: it'll be discussed at the distro meeting tomorrow
[08:42] <Tonio_> Riddell: nice to ear ;)
[08:42] <Lure> something happend to Firefox fonts with last update...
[08:43] <crimsun> that was doko reverting his fontconfig change.
[08:43] <crimsun> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/dapper-changes/2006-April/009246.html
[08:45] <Riddell> ZuZubuntu-fr!
[08:46] <raphink> Tonio_: voil j'ai fini d'crire http://www.raphink.info/ :)
[08:46] <raphink> maintenant je peux regarder ton paquet
[08:48] <Lure> crimsun: will try to ping him...
[08:49] <crimsun> Lure: that's a feature, not a bug. Fix firefox's prefs to use different fonts.
[08:49] <Lure> crimsun: but should we change firefox defaults to use better font then?
[08:49] <Riddell> ZuZubuntu-fr?
[08:50] <crimsun> Lure: the default firefox fonts look fine here
[08:50] <crimsun> Lure: they look fine [to me]  in epiphany, too
[08:51] <raphink> Tonio_: je te parle sur jabber
[08:51] <Lure> crimsun: on GNOME or KDE?
[08:51] <crimsun> Lure: doesn't matter, but I'm using GNOME
[08:54] <Riddell> Tonio_: can we add back the Find Files option to konqueror's Tools menu?
[08:56] <Lure> Tonio_: I have uploaded new kpowersave 0.6.0-1, but it was not added to packages
[08:56] <Lure> Tonio_: is there any issue due to the fact that ppc and i386 package has different version
[08:56] <Lure> Tonio_: currently only ppc one is listed
[08:56] <Tonio_> Riddell: sure, I'll do that toonight
[09:05] <jpatrick> Tonio_: tweaks done
[09:06] <jpatrick> can't I just upload....
[09:18] <jpatrick> http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2272 - please revu
[09:22] <Lure> Tonio_: can you look you repo for kpowersave 0.6.0-1 issue?
[09:41] <Tonio_> Lure: what is the issue ?
[09:42] <Lure> Tonio_: I have uploaded ppc 0.6.0-0 package from freeflying (just .deb) and later i386 0.6.0-1
[09:42] <Lure> now only ppc one is shown on page and if I want to install it on i386 it still references old 0.6.0-0
[09:43] <Tonio_> jpatrick: remove kmf_dvb_edit.sh.docbook in debian/ and that's nice to me ;)
[09:43] <Lure> do we need to have ppc/i386 version in sync?
[09:43] <jpatrick> damn, mjpegtools's in multiverse!
[09:43] <jpatrick> Tonio_: it's kmf_dvb_edit.sh.1.docbook
[09:43] <Tonio_> Lure: not needed, that repo is just for testing.....
[09:43] <Tonio_> jpatrick: you have both in source package ;)
[09:43] <Tonio_> kmf_dvb_edit.sh.docbook and kmf_dvb_edit.sh.1.docbook
[09:44] <jpatrick> good point
[09:44] <Tonio_> Lure: if you can have ppc version, that's fine, butthere is no requirement
[09:44] <Tonio_> Lure: I don't understand what is the issue.......
[09:45] <jpatrick> kmediathingy's going to multiverse at this rate
[09:45] <Lure> it looks like that Packages file was not rebuilt on binary-i386 after my upload...
[09:45] <Tonio_> Lure: ah !!!!
[09:45] <Tonio_> Lure: just remove in ftp old version and wait 15 minutes
[09:45] <Tonio_> probably better to have only one version for one section
[09:45] <Lure> what should I remove?
[09:45] <Tonio_> I mean only one i386 version
[09:46] <Tonio_> remove the oldest ;)
[09:46] <Tonio_> 0.6.0-0
[09:46] <Tonio_> Lure: I don't remember my phpscript
[09:46] <Tonio_> maybe it considers i386 first and checks for the ppc correspondive version
[09:46] <Tonio_> I'm not sure.......
[09:47] <Tonio_> Lure: don't remember it is just for testing, I didn't spent a lot of time on code :)
[09:47] <kwwii> Riddell: if I send you a tarball with the new pics, etc...can you make a package out of the window deco for people to test?
[09:47] <Tonio_> I would just suggest to remove the ppc version
[09:48] <Lure> or get one ppc user to rebuild 0.6.0-1 - anybody with PPC here willing to build one package?
[09:48] <kwwii> I can try
[09:48] <kwwii> Lure: just tell me where, and how it will b0rk my system :-)
[09:48] <Lure> kwwii: do you have pbuilder?
[09:49] <Lure> (otherwise it will install bunch of -dev packages on your system)
[09:49] <apachelogger> kubuntu can play encrypted dvd's?
[09:54] <kwwii> Lure: nope, but I can get it, if needed
[09:55] <Lure> kwwii: I will try to guide you through...
[09:56] <Riddell> kwwii: sure
[10:18] <marseillai> Riddell: i'll not do the floppy format app! but a daemon who check partition! warn if more than X% is use! and wich help to create quota rules .... :) ( i'll try ! ;) )
[10:19] <Riddell> marseillai: good idea, make it a kded module :)
[10:19] <marseillai> yep i'll take a look at keep's daemon and try to do the same!
[10:22] <Riddell> media:/ should give you all the needed information
[10:24] <jjesse> Riddell: nice interview on behindubuntu :)
[10:24] <seaLne> :)
[10:25] <apachelogger> Riddell: so, how can kubuntu play encrypted dvd's?
[10:25] <kwwii> apachelogger: the first thing I do on any linux is install mplayer :-)
[10:26] <seaLne> hmm:
[10:26] <seaLne> 21:25 <Ju> Hi please /j  3ubuntu-fr-meeting about behin ubuntu
[10:26] <apachelogger> kwwii: hm, first thing I do, is install xine, then w32 codecs, then a proper amaroK, and then libdvdcss2
[10:27] <kwwii> apachelogger: hehe, that is what I do *after* I install mplayer :-)
[10:28] <apachelogger> ah, non gui ;-)
[10:28] <apachelogger> kwwii: mplayer plays encrypted dvds?
[10:28] <Riddell> apachelogger: install livedvdcss
[10:29] <apachelogger> Riddell: isn't in the official repos, is it?
[10:30] <kwwii> apachelogger: yes, with or without libdvdcss (get the real source from the web though)
[10:31] <Riddell> apachelogger: alas, no
[10:31] <Riddell> mplayer is in multiverse however
[10:32] <apachelogger> Riddell: that's what I wondered, thx :)
[10:32] <marseillai> Riddell: what is better to use for my application? qt 4.1 qt 4.0 or qt 3.3?
[10:32] <jpatrick> or just use KMPlayer
[10:32] <apachelogger> urg
[10:32] <Riddell> marseillai: which application?
[10:32] <apachelogger> jpatrick: Codeine for world domination :P
[10:32] <marseillai> daemon who check partition! warn if more than X% is use! and wich help to create quota rules
[10:33] <Riddell> marseillai: that would be be best as a kded module, so KDE 3 and qt 3.3
[10:34] <marseillai> oki but it means it can not be use in kde4 ?
[10:34] <Riddell> marseillai: kde 4 doesn't exist yet
[10:34] <marseillai> oki
[10:35] <Tonio_> marseillai: you know what misses in kubuntu ?
[10:35] <Tonio_> a kontrol module equivalent to qtparted
[10:35] <Tonio_> ;)
[10:35] <Tonio_> guidance tool or something....
[10:36] <Tonio_> marseillai: content de voir que enfin tu as du temps pour contrib :)
[10:36] <Riddell> Tonio_: I think a partitioner should be an independent program, it's more than just settings
[10:37] <Tonio_> Riddell: hum...... coming from the microsoft's world, I have another point of view on that, point, but I agree that can be discussed :)
[10:37] <_Sime> it is also something that might have run under wierd conditions.
[10:37] <_Sime> like no kde or X.
[10:37] <Tonio_> to me it is a system tool
[10:37] <marseillai> Tonio_: to hard for a first application! but i keep it in my mind! ;) if i become a good developper i'll think about it! ;)
[10:37] <jpatrick> Riddell: is it too late for kexi-mdb ?
[10:37] <Tonio_> _Sime: that's why I was talking about a kde frontend to qtparted for example
[10:37] <_Sime> i've got a rescue ISO here that runs qtparted from the text mode by first starting a simple X server with only qtparted.
[10:38] <jpatrick> Tonio_: poke bddebian for revu
[10:38] <Lure> marseillai: another idea for first app - config module for (k)powersave
[10:38] <Tonio_> jpatrick: poking bddebian for what ?
[10:38] <marseillai> Tonio_: I only start to see when i'll have time to contrib ..... this summer holliday!
[10:38] <jpatrick> Tonio_: revu of wenga
[10:38] <Tonio_> marseillai: nice :)
[10:38] <Tonio_> jpatrick: already uploaded to NEW queue :)
[10:39] <jpatrick> ah cool
[10:39] <Tonio_> jpatrick: just need to wait for elmo or kamion now
[10:40] <marseillai> Lure: I prefer start an application from zero to learn everything about making an app and only an app not juste a daemon or a guidance-module ....
[10:41] <Tonio_> movie time :)
[10:42] <Tonio_> Riddell: I'll re-add search options in konqueror menu and send you a debdiff of k-d-s
[10:42] <Riddell> Tonio_: thanks, we've had quite a few requests for it
[10:42] <Tonio_> Riddell: I must say I don't understand why I removed it.......
[10:43] <Tonio_> Riddell: anyway, that's not really usefull when you have kio-locate..... it is only usefull for non kio fans ;)
[10:45] <Riddell> yes, that's probably why we removed it
[10:46] <marseillai> it's the first thing i've done! remove this!
[10:49] <kwwii> can someone point me to a good intro to building packages for *buntu?
[10:50] <Tonio_> kwwii: KubuntuPackagingGuide on the wiki ;)
[10:51] <jpatrick> Tonio_: oh dear, changelog has unstable instead of dapper
[10:51] <kwwii> Tonio_: thanks :-)
[10:52] <Riddell> kwwii: also http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html
[10:52] <jjesse> or if you are running dapper it should be in khelpcenter
[10:53] <kwwii> killer!
[10:54] <jpatrick> raphink: They didn't get your name right in the pack guide
[10:55] <raphink> hmm right
[10:55] <raphink> I should ask laserjock to fix that
[10:55] <raphink> thanks for reporting 
[10:57] <Tonio_> jpatrick: argh, I missed that........
[10:57] <jpatrick> Tonio_: never mind I dput -f a fixed one
[11:11] <Lure> Tonio_: kpowersave repo problem solved - kwwii built 0.6.0-1ubuntu1 for PPC
[11:47] <marseillai> kerry should integrate a stop bouton for beagled .....