=== yuriy [n=yuriy@dhcp-129-64-141-181.dorm.brandeis.edu] has joined #kubuntu-devel === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === OdyX [n=Didier@8.Red-80-33-64.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ZuZubuntu-fr [n=ZuZubunt@AVelizy-154-1-47-193.w82-124.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:46] can I get libxine-dev dependencies for Kaffeine relaxed such that it builds with Breezy? [12:46] the breezy-backports version is currently vulnerable to that buffer overflow, and I'd like to pull in the Dapper version [12:52] byye === neoncode [n=neoncode@88-107-206-203.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ZuZubuntu-fr [n=ZuZubunt@AVelizy-154-1-47-193.w82-124.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _superstoned [n=supersto@168-234.surfsnel.dsl.internl.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.36] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Tm_kde4 [n=kde4@62.216.105.250] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ZuZubuntu-fr is now known as AWAY === superstoned_ [n=supersto@168-234.surfsnel.dsl.internl.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _superstoned [n=supersto@168-234.surfsnel.dsl.internl.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #kubuntu-devel === marseillai_ [n=marseill@AMarseille-153-1-65-156.w86-206.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:20] wellwellwell [04:21] and what about kde4 Tm_kde4 ? [04:21] compiling newest kdelibs_snapshot and next kdebase [04:21] then I try to get Kopete running [04:22] fun fun fun! [04:22] indeed [04:24] :D [04:25] OdyX: what? [04:25] this is a smiley :-) [04:25] like agreeing with your visible happiness [04:25] ..you're laughing to me?! [04:25] yes he is [04:25] not at all. [04:26] why not? [04:26] erm... [04:26] well... === Tm_T does some cut'n'paste [04:26] you both confuse me. ... [04:26] OdyX: you'll soon see something disturbing =) [04:27] I'm waiting. [04:27] you should ;) [04:32] OdyX: there's prolly not all, but part of fun: http://www.tm-travolta.net/tekstit/multi-Tm_mess_01.txt [04:33] :D [04:34] you play with SSH ? [04:34] hmm, that too [04:34] 'cause you seem to have different hosts... [04:34] OdyX: well, that Tm_kde4 is kde4 user in my local pc, using Konsole of KDE4 [04:35] [Whois] Tm_T est i=tm_travo@xob.kapsi.fi (Jussi Kekkonen) [04:35] [Whois] Tm_kde4 est n=kde4@62.216.105.250 (kde4 user) [04:35] Tm_K is Kopete me... and myself is running in dedicated web/shell server [04:35] fun... [04:35] I normally never run irc clients in my local pc [04:36] because, well, they're reliable to this too much =) [04:36] why not ? [04:36] for tracing ? [04:36] :D [04:36] no [04:36] but you never know when you have to boot to test new kernel === OdyX find kubuntu-docs AWFULLY long to translate. [04:36] and then you miss MANY lines of IMPORTANT conversations [04:36] ;) [04:37] like this one [04:37] what about logs ? [04:37] ah, I collect logs too ofcourse [04:37] and then compute stats [04:37] if needed [04:37] :D [04:37] http://tmtravolta.kapsi.fi/ircstats/ [04:38] some had cool stats the other day, for #ubuntu-fr, like most speakin' users, more insultin.. [04:38] =) [04:38] OK. That's it [04:38] yeah [04:38] what script is that ? [04:38] IRCStats [04:38] well, there's several scripts involved === OdyX should learn readin'. [04:39] there's irssi script running in cronjob bash script running IRCstats and moving files around [04:39] ah and that happens in my other irssi, running in other dedicated web/shell server [04:40] pfff.... [04:40] so one has to be logged, huh ? [04:40] I mean, you cannot make "transparent" stats... [04:40] what is located in different town, different ISP, different electric company etc... [04:40] OdyX: what's tha [04:40] t [04:41] I mean.. you cannot make stats without an user logged... [04:41] no, I'm not irc addicted, just opwer user 24/7 [04:41] power even [04:41] OdyX: never needed such thing [04:41] OdyX: this way its better [04:41] logs are not only for stats [04:42] Tm_T: hopefully not. === Tm_T is person who try to save everything [04:42] because you never know when you need... [04:42] and ? [04:42] that's why I log everything [04:43] btw [04:43] 05:41 Irssi uptime: 118d 8h 28m 30s [04:43] :( [04:43] this client is been running only 118 days [04:43] Tm_T: cool [04:43] that's though much more than server I'm using, I think [04:44] freenode and their unreliable service ;) [04:44] ... [04:44] though lilo is cool [04:44] and sun is rising [04:45] ...and I forgot to take medication, again! [04:45] risin' where you are ? [04:45] blue pills ? [04:45] Eastern Finland [04:45] OdyX: small and big white ones =) [04:45] Tm_T: fun ? I fear not... [04:45] I'm in Madrid. [04:46] OdyX: poor you, you don't have over half meter of snow there [04:46] ;-) [04:46] No. [04:46] I don't [04:46] but maybe I'd rather have [04:46] I'm swiss. : [04:46] D [04:46] you know, finnish summer is short, but atleast not too much snow =) [04:47] what a clumsy sentence [04:47] Yeah.. that's a funny one... [04:47] but so true [04:47] I've been in Iceland last summer... [04:47] they have great winters. [04:47] it's not unusual to have snow fight middle of july [04:48] in +25 C heat =) [04:48] hum.. [04:48] funny [04:48] definitively funny [04:48] all you need is something to cover snow [04:49] everything from gravel to wood waste goes [04:49] why ? [04:49] to hold it ? [04:49] to keep it from melting [04:50] so what if meltin ? [04:50] then no snow [04:50] and no fun [04:50] and fun ends also when someone get hit by a rock inside snowball [04:50] as usual === Tm_T is waking his inner child again [04:51] end of fun... [04:51] OdyX: or begin =) === Tm_T doesn't fear blood [04:51] yeah... then you can send ones again. [04:52] yeah [04:52] you should see my knees [04:52] or how I walk because of my knees, like old man [04:52] that's why I'm eating those pills :) [04:53] oh well, something it gives, something it takes [04:53] like quitPainPills ? [04:53] like heavy painkillers and nerve drugs [04:53] because of too many RockSnowBalls ? [04:53] oh shite.. [04:53] no [04:53] well, uhm [04:54] my knees are bad from beginning, but I haven't been careful enough to keep them well enough [04:54] I know a little of that. [04:55] I have one bad knee. [04:55] yeah, never should hit man-high rock with motorbike, nor play football and get hit by 120kg player or... you name it =) [04:55] hum... [04:55] trampoline was even too much for my right one. [04:56] me and my cousin used to jump down from 5-meter high tree [04:57] oh yes, I once ran down from hill, whoops, big rock in the middle of path, whoops, to time to stop whoooops, *HIT* [04:57] *ouch* [04:57] ...and no wieght to my left leg in next 2 months [04:57] do you understand "barbel" ? [04:57] hmm, no [04:58] it like barriers in metal that hurt a lot... [04:58] ah [04:58] don't know the words in english... [04:58] also broke all toes from right leg with bicycle [04:59] how could you make all that ?? [04:59] that's unbelievable... [04:59] actually most of flesh got rip off from top of the toes [04:59] OdyX: ah, all you have to do is slip leg from pedal, drop from bench, drag leg against asphalt some 100m and well, finally stop [04:59] and no, no shoes [05:00] Ok... [05:00] shoes is bad.. [05:00] yeah =) [05:00] glad I use biker boots [05:00] friend of mine fell at like ~80 km/h down from swiss hill... [05:00] sounds, err, exciting for a moment [05:01] like all the skin went off from head to foot on one side. [05:01] ....aaand the fun is over [05:01] mega-over ! [05:01] indeed [05:02] funny thing is, I've never had gypsun or anything... [05:02] also had 2 possible skull cracks [05:02] doctors weren't sure :p [05:02] ah, what else... [05:03] hmm, over 20 concussions [05:03] ...yeah, I hit my head too easily [05:03] and knees too [05:05] if I we're big, sporty guy, I would be like a small hero, but nooo [05:05] finnish culture :p [05:05] tsss [05:05] it's like funny culture [05:05] but visibly bad results [05:06] you know, viking blood [05:06] my culture is more "no risk" [05:06] OdyX: ah, and I don't even use alcohol! [05:06] Tm_T: for desinfection or inside desinfection ? [05:06] more later [05:07] it's shame how much finnish people drink to get drunk [05:08] and again, I need my medication, so time to stop this BS ;) -> [05:10] So [05:10] have a good medication === Huahua [n=hua_@221.172.50.7] has joined #kubuntu-devel === NeoChaosX [n=nael@adsl-71-141-14-76.dsl.snfc21.sbcglobal.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure [n=lure@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:00] howdy. === ubijtsa2 [n=anders@213.208.70.150] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:59] Riddell: if we use debian source package as-is (no Ubuntu specific changes), do we still append ubuntuX to version or just leave the debian version? [09:59] Lure: it goes to ubuntuX [10:00] and "unstable" in the changelog gets changed to dapper... [10:00] so all packages in Ubuntu should have ubuntuX postfix if they are based on debian (and are not unique to Ubuntu, like k-d-s or similar) [10:00] no...wait... [10:01] if it's in debian, as is, then why are you repackaging it anyway? [10:01] Lure: if no changes for ubuntu , you needn't append it [10:01] it's supposed to be -0ubuntu1 if not already in ubuntu, or -XubuntuY for if it's in debian... === Hobbsee *thinks* that's the idea... [10:03] -0ubuntu1 if not in debian, correct? ;-) [10:04] Lure: y === Lure was faster than debian with kpowersave 0.6.0 and now have to learn all this stuff ;-) [10:06] hehe! [10:06] hmmmhhh [10:06] pain [10:06] hmm? [10:07] I can make KDE4 stuff compile, but not KDE 3.5 =) [10:07] hehe [10:08] but as long as I don't get confirmation I can't fixthe problem [10:08] from svn that is [10:12] haha [10:12] klauncher crashed =) [10:12] but, err, why I even had it running? :o [10:12] supposed to be only konsole [10:21] i realized.. i don't have kde source installed, what packages should i grab? [10:21] well, what do you need? [10:21] the kde base source? [10:22] hmm, why you need it? [10:22] kameron: and if you need it, I suggest svn [10:23] edit some things, see about getting the X-KDE-Protocol functions working. [10:23] svn? [10:23] yes === jpatrick [n=patrick@ubuntu/member/jpatrick] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:23] you know, system we developers use to share development code [10:23] also good for test users [10:23] anonsvn <3 [10:23] i'm new to a lot of this, just getting into it today. [10:23] heh [10:24] morning [10:24] jpatrick: morning :) [10:24] oh, svn is like cvs? [10:24] hmm, two Tm_T's [10:25] kameron: yes [10:25] jpatrick: where? how much have you drink already? [10:25] british... always drunk [10:25] Tm_T && Tm_kde4 [10:26] nooo [10:26] now you're messing things [10:26] Tm_kde4: stfu [10:26] ok... [10:26] jpatrick: not that I'm bored or anything =) [10:27] so \sh's left? [10:27] congrats freeflying [10:27] jpatrick: thx [10:27] jpatrick: left? [10:27] Tm_T: \sh [10:28] yes, but left? from some time or totally? [10:28] Tm_T: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-April/017179.html [10:29] sad... [10:29] have to use some time to check things [10:31] Tm_T, does kubuntu have kde source packaged in repos? [10:31] kameron: yes [10:31] kameron: sure [10:31] kameron: "apt get source kdebase" for example [10:31] ah, cool. [10:31] apt-get* [10:31] yeah. [10:32] kameron: just make sure you're in dir where you like to save those sources [10:32] kameron: you'd add deb-src to sources firstly [10:32] is this way out of date, compared to grabbing latest cvs/svn? [10:32] jpatrick: thanks =) [10:32] deb-src's already added. [10:32] kameron: well, it's latest release you get =) [10:32] kameron: so prolly not big difference [10:32] cool. [10:33] brb === verwilst [n=verwilst@212.123.1.32] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:46] yay! koffice released! [10:46] yeah [10:46] 1.6 will be interesting [10:46] wow [10:47] now I can package kexi-mdb [10:48] how do you guys like koffice as opposed to OOo? [10:49] kameron: because it's KDE-based [10:49] i mean.. what i'm asking is, do you guys like it better, if so why, or why not, etc. === doelman [n=doelman@dsl-46015.solcon.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:50] i prefer KOffice because 1) it's faster 2) Looks prettier on my KDesktop [10:51] i don't think i've ever used it. [10:51] Riddell: want some help packaging? [10:54] jpatrick: and best of all, it works =) === jpatrick [n=patrick@ubuntu/member/jpatrick] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:55] ohh, i remember using it my last year of highschool for some history repots.. it was clean. but this is like.. a few years ago. i should give it another go once all this source is down. [10:56] X froze again === raphink|ZzzZ [n=raphink@bur91-2-82-231-159-240.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:59] bonjour raphink [11:00] raphink: yay! [11:01] hi [11:02] raphink: hi [11:02] hi freeflying. congrats for your devness [11:03] raphink: thx :) [11:03] raphink: now \sh's gone [11:04] for a while at least [11:04] yeah [11:05] I hope he can act something out in his life and come back later [11:07] nooooooo! [11:07] I lost my another main client :( [11:08] now we have two core-dev's [11:08] oh noes, my life is in ruins ;-( [11:09] AAH! back! <3 === Tm_T 's life goes up and down with irc-client [11:10] ...no comment... [11:10] =) === Jozo_ [i=jozo@viola.uninea.fi] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:10] Jozo_: ah you too [11:12] jpatrick: which is why I've applied basically [11:18] http://kubuntu.org/packages/koffice-15/ <- wahey [11:25] np: "Dani California" | Red Hot Chili Peppers - Stadium Arcadium [amaroK] [11:26] Lure: just leave the debian number, but in that case we just sync directly from debian [11:27] jpatrick: packaging what? [11:27] Riddell: You've already done KOffice [11:29] Riddell: in the meantime I got another fix to include, so it will be ubuntu1 ;-) [11:38] Lure: of what? === verwilst_ [n=verwilst@212.123.1.32] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:06] Riddell: hi [12:07] Riddell: how do we import messages from http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/l10n/fr/messages/playground-sysadmin/desktop_playground-sysadmin.po?rev=527530&view=log ? [12:07] the desktop files translations for adept are there === klugez [i=kluge@xob.kapsi.fi] has joined #kubuntu-devel === kameron [n=kameron@S0106000129f5b884.cc.shawcable.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === je4d [n=jeff@kde/developer/je4d] has joined #kubuntu-devel === andred [i=bnc@62.75.169.150] has joined #kubuntu-devel === duskspy [n=piespy@rb4b151.chello.upc.cz] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:14] netsplit-ish === andred [i=bnc@62.75.169.150] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:16] raphink: we'll make sure to include them in the next adept upload [12:16] raphink: we need to do something similar for system settings [12:16] Riddell: would you like me to sync them some time? [12:16] yes indeed [12:16] raphink: sync what? [12:16] sync this file from svn [12:17] or shall we wait for the next sync of the whole program ? [12:17] just wait for the next release [12:18] ok === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jpatrick spots ca katapult i18n templete.... [12:20] =) [12:33] Riddell: kpowersave fix [12:34] jpatrick: where? [12:37] Riddell: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/dapper/+source/katapult/+translations === OculusAquilae [n=oculus@pD950A2B4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:08] jpatrick: how to use katapault (configure) [01:11] freeflying: what? [01:12] jpatrick: how to configure katapault ( a stupid question) :) [01:12] right-click the system-tray icon [01:13] freeflying: ctrl+c [01:13] OculusAquilae: jpatrick thx [01:13] if there's no systray-icon [01:14] OculusAquilae: got it === kameron [n=kameron@S0106000129f5b884.cc.shawcable.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === je4d [n=jeff@kde/developer/je4d] has joined #kubuntu-devel === duskspy [n=piespy@rb4b151.chello.upc.cz] has joined #kubuntu-devel === OdyX [n=Didier@8.Red-80-33-64.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:34] hola OdyX [01:39] hola jpatrick === jeroenvrp [n=jeroenvr@k-uptown.xs4all.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:03] good afternoon [02:04] jeroenvrp: good afternoon [02:04] question: is beagle/kerry installed by default in Kubunti dapper?! [02:05] jeroenvrp: no [02:05] pff ok === freeflying-ibook [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.36] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:05] cause I really think beagle has some major problmes [02:05] at least with kontact === jjesse [n=jjesse@mail.ftpb.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:06] what's that? [02:06] when I start kontact and kmail is getting all the mail (thats a lot, incl mailinglists), beagled is almost locking my session [02:06] I think because of all the mail comming in [02:06] I think the biggest issue with beagle is the fact that it installs half of gnome... [02:07] its a maildir and maybe beagle doesnt handle that very nice [02:07] probably need to exclude the e-mail directory from beagle or something [02:08] yes but than I cant find my mails anymore [02:08] in beagle [02:08] Tm_kde4: you compiled kde4 ? [02:09] He did.. :D [02:10] OdyXydO: I'm working on that [02:10] anyhow, I think beagle is not reeady for the KDE-desktop yet === marseillai_ is now known as marseillai [02:11] needs its backend to be a little more split from gtk to run properly [02:12] jpatrick: and what about Kat ? [02:12] pouarf ......; [02:12] kat is too buggy! :s [02:12] it comsumes to much resourses, it doesnt understand maildir very well, p2p incoming directories, is locking up during encoding of videofiles, etc [02:12] OdyX: marseillai++ [02:13] locate works well :-) [02:13] yeah, it's still very problematic, as good as the dream sounds [02:13] jpatrick: I know.. I tested it on his request [02:15] jpatrick: but in my opinion kat promise a lot! more than beagle! beagle seems to be only a toy! kat want to make a real index with good meta data end inotify kernel module. with the addition of tenor and when it will works it will be really great! but for the moment it doesn"t work at all! [02:20] anyhow I'm removing beagle right now and I will keep my eyes on Kat [02:28] jeroenvrp: as we discussed that the other day on #kubuntu-fr, finally, the better way to find your stuff rapidly is to have it well ordered... [02:31] OdyX: absolutely [02:32] but I still like the idea [02:32] I'm looking to the Kat homepage right now and Kat real looks promising, I see it has Mandriva support now [02:32] maybe Kubuntu should also support it [02:33] the new version 0.6.4 also has a lot of fixes I see [02:34] jeroenvrp: so what about packagin' ? [02:34] OdyX: what you mean? [02:35] jeroenvrp: makin' last version's package for (K)Ubuntu [02:35] ooh [02:35] kat since the start of his development has allways many bug fixes at each releases! but at each releases there is always so many new bugs .... [02:36] I'm not have had the time to eat that knowledge yet :-) [02:36] jeroenvrp: I don't even. [02:36] marseillai: ++ [02:37] perhaps one day we will have a bug free release.... [02:37] but i think that the kat-dev only want an indexer application ..... [02:37] marseillai: hope so [02:37] he will use this in tenor [02:38] kat has indexer "back-end" and tenor as search front-end! [02:40] really hard to find beginner tutorials for c++/kde/kdevelop ...... [02:41] kat changelog 0.6.4: Added debian package fulltext search plAdded debian package fulltext search pluginugin [02:41] that looks promising [02:41] I will try to compile it [02:45] 0.6.4 had problems so we decided not to use it [02:45] what sort of problems? [02:45] can't actually remember just now [02:46] mandriva had to issue a lot of fixes because of kat [02:46] Riddell: because even if he had problems kat 0.6.3 don't start on several computers ........ [02:46] so it can not be worse with 0.6.4 in my mind [02:47] yes especially because I see Mandrive fixed a few annoying bugs [02:47] OdyX: can launch the kat daemon neither [02:47] anyhow I?do a make right now, I will see if there are problems [02:48] mmm I see the date of 0.6.4: October 10, 2005 [02:49] :-( [02:49] yes [02:49] thats a bad sign [02:49] but 0.7.0 is on the way [02:49] and kat-svn is allways active [02:50] any ppc user that can test build of powersave/kpowersave on PPC? [02:51] marseillai: I'm browsing svn right now, but cant find any recent activity [02:52] 2-3 weeks ago I see the latest activity [02:54] marseillai: do you know when 0.7.0 will be released and can I compile a SVN-version without any major problems right now? === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.36] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:57] freeflying: you are also ppc user? can I ask you to try building powersave/kpowersave on ppc? (some reports of failures) [02:57] Lure: i'd like to [02:58]