[12:09] <Oli> hiho
[12:09] <Oli> does kubuntu dapper flight 6 have xorg 7?
[12:09] <Armagguedes> hello
[12:09] <Armagguedes> anyone knows when Ubuntu Dapper Drake's repositories will be updated w/ Koffice v1.5?
[12:09] <Bambino> I went to kde-apps to download the debian version for KDm-theme. However when i downloaded the deb file, it was only for 32 bit, i am using 64. how can i go around this?
[12:10] <robotgeek> Armagguedes: can you check www.kubuntu.org
[12:12] <Armagguedes> robotgeek k tks
[12:13] <Oli> gnite
[12:14] <Armagguedes> robotgeek i've checked adept, and nothing yet. besides kubuntu.org announces the packages are ready for brizi
[12:14] <Armagguedes> no dapper love?
[12:14] <Bambino> Any way to change my login screen? So i get a new theme? Without having kdmtheme insalled? (as its only for 32bit, and i have 64bit)
[12:15] <Barbelos> Is there a command I can run to make the kde menus rescan for .desktop files? A lot of entries missing suddenly
[12:16] <Armagguedes> ive seen it
[12:16] <Armagguedes> k tks
[12:17] <robotgeek> Armagguedes: :)
[12:17] <Armagguedes> guys i've used synaptic and adept to install a few things
[12:17] <Armagguedes> but now they dont show om the k menu
[12:17] <Armagguedes> and this was hours ago
[12:17] <Armagguedes> ideas?
[12:19] <Barbelos> Armagguedes: I have just about the same problem here. Seems my k-menus stopped updating properly
[12:19] <me2win> Armagguedes: sometimes you have to restart KDE to get it to add to the menu
[12:19] <me2win> especially if you are using dapper
[12:20] <me2win> Armagguedes: it happens to me too, but once I restart KDE (or X) it adds it to the menu
[12:20] <Barbelos> me2win: In my case restarting hasn't helped, I use breezy.
[12:20] <Barbelos> me2win: With 3.5.2 though
[12:20] <me2win> ah might be a KDE thing then
[12:21] <Barbelos> kubuntu-thing you mean. Never had this problem in Mandriva or SuSE. Hopefully Dapper Drake's KDE will be more polished
[12:21] <Armagguedes> this is ival
[12:21] <Armagguedes> bad Bad BAD menu
[12:21] <Armagguedes> =/
[12:21] <Armagguedes> ok ill check that in a whiles
[12:24] <kevman> How can I make it so that a user cannot sudo?
[12:24] <OdyX> kevman: retire the user from group admin I think
[12:24] <kevman> I tried that.
[12:24] <me2win> kevman: only the main user should be able to sudo
[12:25] <OdyX> kevman: check (CAREFULLY) your /etc/sudoers
[12:25] <Armagguedes> fakk
[12:25] <Armagguedes> feirafox keeps crashing
[12:25] <Armagguedes> for no apparent reason
[12:25] <OdyX> Armagguedes: caus' he doesn't like to run in QT environment...
[12:26] <OdyX> Better use Konqui :D
[12:26] <bleaked> OdyX. pfff...that's a weak answer
[12:26] <OdyX> bleaked: I know...
[12:27] <kevman> The user is not in the sudoers file.
[12:27] <kevman> yet it can still sudo.
[12:27] <OdyX> bleaked: but it is a matter of fact that firefox help would better be found in #ubuntu, huh ?
[12:27] <OdyX> kevman: what type of user ?
[12:27] <MeTa[OFF] > good night all
[12:27] <kevman> Its the user created when I installed Kubuntu.
[12:27] <OdyX> kevman: type $ groups
[12:28] <bleaked> OdyX. perhaps, but if he's running fox in a kde environment..then i think this channel is the place.
[12:28] <VRWarper> OdyX: well it depends doesnt it?
[12:28] <OdyX> kevman: if you get it out of admin (and you have no other one), you'll have problems
[12:28] <kevman> normaluser adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev scanner
[12:28] <VRWarper> I bet most of the people using kubuntu still install firefox :)
[12:28] <OdyX> bleaked: and so what? You're right, my answer was bad...
[12:28] <kevman> Oh, wait, nevermind.
[12:29] <bleaked> meh..just saying.
[12:29] <VRWarper> im not bleaked :(
[12:29] <VRWarper> oh wait nvm
[12:29] <kevman> Brainfart.
[12:29] <OdyX> kevman: just re-
[12:29] <OdyX> log
[12:29] <kevman> Yeah, I got it.
[12:29] <kevman> Sorry.
[12:31] <Barbelos> VRWarper: Firefox is always good to have. I still do most of my browsing in Konqueror though, very nice with the kaffeine player part and other things
[12:32] <Armagguedes> wtf?
[12:32] <Armagguedes> i, like, hate konqueror for browsing
[12:32] <Armagguedes> thats one damn slow unresponsive app
[12:32] <xwolf-> speaking of the devil
[12:32] <VRWarper> i disagree
[12:32] <robotgeek> Armagguedes: it's faster than ffox for me :)
[12:33] <VRWarper> konq is more responsive than firefox
[12:33] <xwolf-> how can i install mozilla-mplayer without installing the firefox package?
[12:33] <VRWarper> (im a firefox user)
[12:33] <xwolf-> (because i installed firefox manually)
[12:33] <crimsun> xwolf-: you can't; use equivs.
[12:33] <robotgeek> please move non-support dicussions to #kubuntu-offtopic
[12:33] <xwolf-> already tried, couldnt find
[12:34] <robotgeek> in case someone feels like trolling :)
[12:35] <Armagguedes> or i can haves some config messed up though
[12:35] <Armagguedes> basically my prob w/ konquelol
[12:35] <Armagguedes> is taht it takes decades to open any website
[12:36] <Armagguedes> the konqui-throbber just goes around and around and around
[12:36] <Armagguedes> while i age
[12:36] <Armagguedes> ideas?
[12:37] <Barbelos> Armagguedes: Slow? It's the fastest browser ever here
[12:37] <brad> i have xgl installed on kubuntu, however adept notifier will not close, and konqueror will not open, when I log out konqueror mysteriously opens,
[12:37] <brad> does anyone have any answers? thanks
[12:37] <Armagguedes> Barbelos im running a fully updated dapper
[12:37] <Armagguedes> with FF1501
[12:37] <Armagguedes> and i get better performance w/ it
[12:37] <Barbelos> Ok then
[12:37] <Barbelos> ;)
[12:39] <Armagguedes> also, how do i get konqueror to open everything in tabs?
[12:39] <arrinmurr> brad: try to ask in #ubuntu-xgl , #xgl-ubuntu or #xgl
[12:40] <Armagguedes> back in breezy when i opened any folder, it went to a new/current tab in Konqueror. Now all i get is new windows
[12:40] <Armagguedes> it feels like im navigating the net with IE
[12:46] <bleaked> Armagguedes. open konq, settings, config konq, look under the behavior section
[12:48] <Armagguedes> bleaked i have "open folders in seperate windows" unchecked
[12:48] <Armagguedes> and it still opens more than one konqueror
[12:49] <Armagguedes> 3.5.0 and 3.4.3 opened EVERYTING in the same window
[12:49] <Armagguedes> unless i specifically said "open in new..."
[12:49] <bleaked> Armagguedes. have you recently adjusted your konq settings, or kde mouse settings?
[12:51] <Armagguedes> nah
[12:52] <Wizzy_Kidd> how cna  I get flash in Konqueror
[12:52] <Wizzy_Kidd> ?
[12:52] <Barbelos> I think he must be using Nautilus
[12:52] <Barbelos> :p
[12:53] <Wizzy_Kidd> anyone :P
[12:54] <Barbelos> wizzy_kidd: Google for 'ubuntu' and 'nonfree'
[12:54] <Armagguedes> Barbelos how do i make sure then?
[12:54] <Barbelos> wizzy_kidd: Should get you a guide to set up nonfree formats
[12:55] <Wizzy_Kidd> welll
[12:55] <Armagguedes> it says "Konqueror" on the title bar
[12:55] <Wizzy_Kidd> i want it in kon not firefox
[12:55] <Barbelos> I was just pulling your leg Armag
[12:55] <Armagguedes> ahah
[12:55] <Armagguedes> oh well user error?
[12:55] <brad> i have xgl installed in kubuntu, now konqueror won't open, any ideas?
[12:55] <Barbelos> wizzy_kid: Have you let konqi search for plugins? It's in the settings somewhere (if you have flash installed that is)
[12:55] <bleaked> Wizzy_Kidd. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:56] <Barbelos> Ah, restricted, not 'nonfree' - right
[01:05] <Wizzy_Kidd> i have installed everything flash wise but its still not working in Konqueror
[01:07] <Barbelos> wizzy_kidd: Have you had konqueror search for new plugins yet?
[01:11] <Wizzy_Kidd> ummm
[01:11] <Wizzy_Kidd> how do you do that
[01:15] <Barbelos> wizzy_kidd: When you have konqueror open, go to the settings menu , click "configure konqueror, or setup konqueror" (Don't know which, mine is Norwegian). There should be a tab for setting up plugins
[01:15] <Barbelos> wizzy_kid: Once you find that you just click on "search for plugins"
[01:17] <bur[n] er> anyone build kaffeine 0.8 or 0.8.1 ?
[01:19] <Barbelos> bur[n] er: Are you using breezy?
[01:19] <bur[n] er> Barbelos: dappe
[01:20] <Barbelos> bur[n] er: I saw some packages linked in the ubuntu forums, here it is: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=154452&highlight=kaffeine
[01:21] <bur[n] er> awww.. I should've turned there
[01:25] <bleaked> so if a lot of foreign characters are showing up as boxes..what might one configure or install, or use to alleviate this problem?
[01:26] <bur[n] er> thanks Barbelos, the new kaffeine is rad!
[01:29] <Barbelos> It truly rules. Bodacious!
[01:29] <Barbelos> or something...
[01:29] <Barbelos> ;)
[01:33] <dale_gribble> i have an odd issue, when i install programs through apt-get (firefox), it does not update the kde menu, i tried to edit the menu and add manually, and that does not save either
[01:33] <dale_gribble> any suggestions?
[01:59] <byt> What could prevent device icons from appearing on the desktop? I have them all checked but only see 1 unmounted floppy.
[02:04] <OdyX> byt: right click on Desktop - "Configure Desktop"
[02:04] <OdyX> Comportment
[02:04] <OdyX> tab "peripherals icons"
[02:04] <OdyX> (sorry for bad french-to-english rapid translation)
[02:05] <mindpixel> hello guys, i am a bit stuck trying to boot a kubuntu installation cd on my desktop machine, the same cd works on my laptop , other boot cds work on my desktop as it is not old hardware or anything ... i just can't seem to figure it out
[02:12] <bur[n] er> byt: sill question... is the checkbox at the top of the device icons checked?  the all-encompassing, show device icons?
[02:12] <byt> but of course =)
[02:12] <bur[n] er> works here :\
[02:13] <byt> yea it used to work here to, but something broke them. is there a package related to device icons i can reinstall?
[02:14] <bur[n] er> kubuntu-desktop :)
[02:14] <byt> that's what fixed kontrol when it went nuts on me =)
[02:15] <byt> hmm, should reinstalling -desktop go smoothly?
[02:18] <bur[n] er> byt: depends on how bad you messed things up ;)
[02:18] <byt> seems like overkill for something so simple
[02:18] <bur[n] er> it only gets packages you don't have
[02:19] <bur[n] er> if you already have everythign in kubuntu-desktop, it shouldn't do anything
[02:19] <bur[n] er> if you b0rked it, this will fix it
[02:19] <bur[n] er> you may have removed something included in kubuntu-desktop is my guess
[02:19] <bur[n] er> because by default, kubuntu can show desktop icons
[02:19] <byt> any idea what that something might be?
[02:20] <bur[n] er> byt: does kubuntu-desktop want to install anything?
[02:20] <bur[n] er> :P
[02:21] <byt> hmm, nope, it just wants to finish setting up nessus ssl
[02:22] <lwizardl> can someone help me with getting java re1.4 working
[02:22] <DuDReNoV> :/
[02:23] <byt> it does say "38 not upgraded"
[02:25] <laszlok> lwizardl: whats the problem
[02:26] <lwizardl> laszlok: i tried this blackdown version and i just got errors on  running jar's
[02:26] <lwizardl> so now i have the sun version
[02:27] <DuDReNoV> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.emacs/msg/a70630759a1a668e
[02:27] <DuDReNoV> this is funny
[02:28] <vge> somebody knows program to edit gif animations, something simple?
[02:28] <DuDReNoV> gimp
[02:29] <vge> have you animated gifs with it?
[02:29] <vge> *edited
[02:29] <byt> how about gimp-gap
[02:29] <vge> lets see
[02:30] <lwizardl> laszlok: i've tried sh j2re-1_4_2_11-linux-i586.bin and its not installed still
[02:30] <Tm_T> !java
[02:30] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[02:30] <Tm_T> !javadebs
[02:31] <Tm_T> oh well
[02:31] <vge> byt: sounds interesting, ty
[02:31] <byt> http://wiki.gimp.org/gimp/AnimatedGif
[02:31] <byt> anytime vge
[02:34] <paulvolk> Hey Guys where can I learn basic terminal?
[02:34] <bimberi> !cli
[02:34] <ubotu> CLI means Command Line Interface, aka the terminal or console. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/ or http://www.tuxfiles.org
[02:35] <paulvolk> Thank you
[02:35] <Tm_T> :)
[02:35] <Tm_T> that was fast
[02:35] <bimberi> :)
[02:38] <paulvolk> Oh one more question
[02:38] <byt> paulvolk you might find this video useful http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=401107451074228297
[02:39] <paulvolk> ok
[02:39] <paulvolk> nvm about my question
[02:40] <bheiling> How or where would I find an older kernel package.. linux-image-2.6.15-19-686 ?
[02:40] <bheiling> I am currently running linux-image-2.6.15-20-386
[02:41] <bheiling> but -20 broke hibernate and I want to go back to -19-686 instead of -19-386
[02:43] <_john> hey i hav ea question
[02:43] <bur[n] er> bheiling: just pick -19 in the grub menu at boot
[02:43] <_john> whoops
[02:44] <_john> anyway
[02:44] <bheiling> no, I have 19-386 installed I want to goto 19-686
[02:44] <_john> how do i get it so when i mount a disk, my user (john) has write access
[02:44] <bheiling> I don't have -19-686 installed at all
[02:44] <bur[n] er> so install it
[02:44] <_john> like i mount my media drive at /home/john/Media, but i can't write to it
[02:44] <_john> or edit it
[02:44] <bheiling> It is not in my apt list
[02:44] <_john> because i dont have permissions
[02:44] <HymnToLife> _john> what kind of partition (FAT, NTFS or what) ?
[02:44] <_john> f32
[02:45] <HymnToLife> !ntfs
[02:45] <ubotu> ntfs is, like, the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[02:45] <bheiling> maybe I'm missing an entry in my sources.list
[02:45] <HymnToLife> see here, FAT32 is explaine too
[02:45] <_john> kk
[02:45] <_john> thanks
[02:45] <bur[n] er> bheiling: you can download it from packages.ubuntu.com I'm guessing
[02:46] <_john> how do you get it so NTFS partitions are viewable by everyone?
[02:46] <HymnToLife> it's in there too ;)
[02:46] <_john> like, i have my windows drive mounted at /media/windows, but when i try to go there as john it says i dont have permissions
[02:46] <_john> oh ok
[02:47] <_john> will that work thoug?
[02:47] <HymnToLife> of course
[02:47] <_john> like you cant write to ntfs, will it get any errors or is it auto set to non-writing
[02:47] <HymnToLife> if it didn't work, it wouldn't be on the wiki anymore ;)
[02:47] <_john> :D
[02:47] <_john> okey doke
[02:47] <_john> ill give that a try
[02:47] <_john> thanks for your help man
[02:48] <HymnToLife> you're welcome
[02:48] <me2win> _john: with ntfsprogs you can write to ntfs partitions safely
[02:48] <_john> me2win: no errors?
[02:49] <bur[n] er> no errors, but you need the windows ntfs driver correct?  similar to captive ntfs?
[02:49] <me2win> _john: if it isn't able to write to the partition, it will tell you an error occurred, but nothing will be written, it is perfectly safe to use
[02:50] <me2win> !info ntfsprogs
[02:50] <ubotu> ntfsprogs: (tools for doing neat things in NTFS partitions from Linux), section otherosfs, is optional. Version: 1.9.4-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 171 kB, Installed size: 448 kB
[02:51] <_john> hmmm
[02:51] <_john> nice
[02:55] <bheiling> seems like once dapper got updated to the newer kernel 2.6.15-20 all the 2.6.15-19 kernels are removed.
[02:55] <bheiling> I can not seem to find it on packages.ubuntu.com
[02:56] <crimsun> correct, it would take up far too much room to maintain multiple revisions
[02:58] <bheiling> is there any place that I could get an older version ?
[02:59] <crimsun> perhaps an outdated mirror, or install git and revert your local tree back and compile one
[03:04] <bimberi> flight6 iso ?
[03:05] <crimsun> yep, you certainly could pull from a dapper milestone
[03:05] <crimsun> kinda sucks having to download 700 MB for one, but sure
[03:06] <bimberi> :)
[03:09] <paulvolk> Is there anyway of turning a source packedge that you would have to compile into a .deb packedge?
[03:10] <bimberi> !checkinstall
[03:10] <ubotu> I guess checkinstall is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall
[03:11] <bimberi> paulvolk: you can use checkinstall when you reach the 'make install' point of the compile process to make a .deb
[03:19] <Kyral> Huzzuh recompiling KDE
[03:29] <elknof1> apokryphos: are you there?
[03:31] <elknof1> does anybody knows how to disable the tapping??
[03:31] <geo-1> j medan
[03:31] <me2win> !mount
[03:31] <ubotu> rumour has it, mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[03:31] <elknof1> !maxtaptime
[03:31] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, elknof1
[03:34] <elknof1> !xorg.conf
[03:34] <ubotu> elknof1: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:34] <vge> elknof1: you mean touchpad tapping?
[03:34] <elknof1> yeah
[03:34] <vge> sec
[03:34] <elknof1> maxtaptime
[03:34] <vge> yup
[03:35] <elknof1> but i have no idea how to add it... i know it need to be added in xorg.conf, but i dont know where or how...
[03:35] <vge> ic
[03:35] <elknof1> i try optioned adding it down the touchpad settings as an
[03:35] <elknof1> sorry
[03:36] <vge> you need to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf as root
[03:36] <elknof1> that message was crashes cause of the tapping
[03:36] <elknof1> wrong not crashed...
[03:37] <elknof1> could you help me out typing the line as it should be added please??
[03:37] <vge> Option          "MaxTapTime"            "0"
[03:37] <elknof1> thanks, does it matters where in between i add it??
[03:38] <vge> yes
[03:38] <elknof1> where it should be??
[03:38] <vge> you need to add it between the Section "InputDevice" and Endsection
[03:38] <elknof1> thanks
[03:38] <vge> where there is Identifier      "Synaptics Touchpad"
[03:39] <vge> just put it right before the endsection
[03:39] <elknof1> ok... thanks...  its just that i already did that but it didnt work
[03:39] <vge> works here, wanna see my xorg.conf?
[03:40] <elknof1> yes please
[03:40] <vge> !pastebin
[03:40] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, totally, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[03:41] <vge> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12060 <-- line 68
[03:42] <elknof1> thank you very much
[03:43] <elknof1> in kate i can see some comas, does it have any relevance??
[03:44] <vge> kate draws commas when you press tab, makes following the lines more easy
[03:44] <vge> commas are not really commas, just linemarkers
[03:45] <elknof1> i will work until i restart it   isnt it??
[03:45] <elknof1>  it will work until i restart it   isnt it??
[03:45] <vge> yup
[03:45] <elknof1> ok
[03:46] <elknof1> thanks
[03:46] <vge> np
[03:46] <jeff_> hey guys
[03:46] <vge> hi hi
[03:46] <jeff_> im having some trouble with the amarok packages on the repo
[03:47] <jeff_> everything seems to be broken
[03:47] <vge> dont use amarok sry :/
[03:47] <jeff_> what do you use?
[03:47] <vge> KMplayer or vlc, but i dont watch media that mutch
[03:48] <jeff_> ok
[03:48] <jeff_> is there any way to make vlc less ugly?
[03:48] <vge> :)
[03:49] <jeff_> lol
[03:50] <jeff_> anybody having trouble with amarok?
[03:51] <CheeseBurgerMan> jeff_: No, what version of Kubuntu/Amarok are you using?
[03:51] <vge> jeff_: there is package named wxvlc if you wanna make vlc little more pretty
[03:55] <benkong2> I can connect using iwconfig etc. but when I enter my key in the nm-applet it just spins. Any help?
[03:56] <benkong2> I have a T40 IBM thinkpad Ubuntu Dapper and network-manager installed.
[03:57] <vge> !wireless
[03:57] <ubotu> from memory, wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers
[03:57] <jeff_> cheeseburgerman: im using breezy 5.10 and amarok 1.3.8
[03:57] <CheeseBurgerMan> What engine?
[03:59] <geo-1> j surabaya
[04:00] <geo-1> co- unima
[04:01] <jeff_> cheeseburgerman: i was using xine engine but it stopped working somehow
[04:02] <jeff_> cheeseburgerman: so i went to reinstall it
[04:02] <benkong2> thanks my wifi card is supported  and ndis is not needed
[04:02] <jeff_> cheeseburgerman: but the package was broken, along with amarok-engines
[04:02] <CheeseBurgerMan> Hmm
[04:03] <DeluxXx__> hm is there a way to fix grub with the kubuntu dvd without compelty like for windows fixmbr
[04:03] <CheeseBurgerMan> Just a minute, I'll check my and see if they're proken over here
[04:03] <CheeseBurgerMan> broken*
[04:03] <CheeseBurgerMan> mine*
[04:07] <CheeseBurgerMan> Hmm, it works here
[04:09] <jeff_> can i get a pastebin of ur sources.list?
[04:09] <CheeseBurgerMan> Sure
[04:10] <jeff_> ok thanks
[04:10] <CheeseBurgerMan> http://pastebin.com/654881
[04:13] <jeff_> hmm
[04:14] <jeff_> do you have w32codecs?
[04:14] <CheeseBurgerMan> nope
[04:14] <CheeseBurgerMan> I'm on amd64. ;)
[04:17] <jeff_> lol ok
[04:19] <hellz_hunter> has nayone else had issues where after gnome power saves the monitor, when you move the mouse and turn the monitor back on, X windows takes up alot of resources?
[04:20] <creed205> Hi guys... anyone every tried or been able to play DVR-MS files under ubuntu or kubuntu?
[04:21] <byt> Delux just run the installer, hit esc and jump to partitioning, then setup the mount points and, leaving the data, and then it'll fix grub for ya
[04:22] <byt> then quit the installer after grub setup, reboot...
[04:26] <DeluxXx__> hm but byt wont i loose all my setttings then ?
[04:27] <byt> not if you tell the partition tool to leave the data alone and not format the disk, which is an option in the menu
[04:28] <DeluxXx__> k i saw that before can still remember it =P  im gonna try that thanks
[04:28] <DeluxXx__> =P
[04:28] <DeluxXx__> go
[04:28] <DeluxXx__> good*
[04:28] <DeluxXx__> cya
[04:28] <byt> enjoy
[04:29] <DeluxXx__> lol
[04:29] <DeluxXx__> =P
[04:30] <CheeseBurgerMan> Then fixed grub, and broke vista....then got them both working.
[04:31] <byt> and the moral is: keep breaking things till it works
[04:32] <creed205> I have an error from CUPS
[04:32] <creed205> mind if I paste her here?
[04:32] <creed205> (its small)
[04:32] <creed205> :)
[04:34] <creed205> here goes
[04:34] <creed205> Unable to retrieve the printer list. Error message received from manager:
[04:34] <creed205> Connection to CUPS server failed. Check that the CUPS server is correctly installed and running. Error: the IPP request failed for an unknown reason
[04:35] <byt> at least the programmer had a sense of humor about it...
[04:36] <creed205> hehe
[04:36] <creed205> any ideas? I installed this one this morning
[04:54] <Drakeson> does anyone else has the issue with kpdf displaying DejavuSerif instead of Times-Roman (i.e. displaying some pdf documents with fonts stuffed together)?
[05:44] <pagey__> anyone installed opera in dapper?
[05:45] <pagey__> i get errors
[05:45] <bur[n] er> what errors?
[05:47] <bur[n] er> i'm running 8.5.1, but i guess I'll upgrade
[05:52] <regeya> everytime I see 'MOTU' I think 'Mark of the Unicorn' and think 'WTF'
[05:53] <regeya> for those who don't know, MOTU was (is?) a music software company.
[05:54] <regeya> on top of whatever it is (k)(x)ubuntu people use MOTU as a designation for.
[05:54] <regeya> forgot (edu)
[05:54] <bur[n] er> masters of the universe!
[05:54] <regeya> any more baby buntus?
[05:54] <regeya> oh heh
[05:54] <regeya> You'll never win, Skeletor!
[06:08] <pagey__> bur[n] er: missing libs
[06:14] <regeya> substitute even
[06:14] <JasonF> regeya: it works for me
[06:15] <JasonF> alt+space, then start typing
[06:15] <regeya> window menu, every time, if I have a window in focus (which is almost always...)
[06:15] <regeya> bleh.
[06:19] <regeya> I suppose I should check out the katapult website...is it good for anything other than a launcher?  granted, that's what I mainly use quicksilver for, but I also use it when I'm mailing files and doing spotlight searches. :)  If katapult's current developers keep it up, in my mind this could become the kde killer feature.
[06:21] <regeya> OK AWESOME I JUST OPENED A BOOKMARK.
[06:21] <regeya> from katapult, I mean. :-}
[06:23] <bur[n] er> pagey__: run opera from a term... bet it works :\
[06:24] <bur[n] er> pagey__: or just do apt-get -f install after a dpkg -i blah.deb of opera
[06:33] <robotgeek> regeya: try basket :)
[06:34] <robotgeek> regeya: http://basket.kde.org (small, but extremely useful app)
[06:36] <regeya> ah, yes, I've seen basket before. :-)  been a while since I tried it, tho.  wow.
[07:04] <milesblahblah> I know this is kubuntu and I have the reg install of ubuntu, but I'm sure someone could help me i have win xp installed, and wanted to know if I could create a partition in win xp and create a new install of breezy badger and still dual boot?
[07:15] <jlb> Can someone help me with a wierd issue?
[07:32] <Ranma> Hello all
[07:33] <Ranma> Anyone knows if there is a whereisit equivalent for kde?
[07:34] <kosh> what is whereisit?
[07:34] <Ranma> a catalog software
[07:35] <Ranma> basically i need a catalog software for cdroms and all that stuff
[07:35] <kosh> apt-cache is suggesting kat
[07:36] <kosh> I have not used it either
[07:36] <Ranma> ok i will give a try
[07:37] <kosh> not something I know about
[07:37] <robotgeek> Ranma: maybe tellico
[07:37] <kakalto> what is a bar called in kde?
[07:37] <robotgeek> Ranma: katalog also
[07:37] <kosh> kakalto: what do you mean bar?
[07:37] <kakalto> like, the bar at the bottom
[07:37] <Ranma> katalog looks good but i couldnt find any deb file
[07:37] <robotgeek> kakalto: kicker
[07:38] <kosh> where the k button is?
[07:38] <kakalto> robotgeek, close, but a more generic term?
[07:38] <kakalto> kosh, ya, that bar
[07:38] <robotgeek> Ranma: you need to enable universe
[07:38] <robotgeek> kakalto: panel, maybe ?
[07:38] <Ranma> i did
[07:38] <knotbeer> uh... what is linux?  hehe.. j/k  I just had a wild hair up my *
[07:38] <kosh> kde calls it the main panel
[07:38] <kakalto> robotgeek, sounds like what I'm looking for :)
[07:38] <kakalto> panel.
[07:38] <kakalto> thanks
[07:39] <robotgeek> Ranma: did you apt-get update after doing that?
[07:39] <Ranma> yes
[07:39] <robotgeek> !info katalog
[07:40] <robotgeek> Ranma: oh, it's only in dapper :P
[07:40] <Ranma> haha no problem
[07:40] <laszlok> Ranma: kat is meant to be a thing like spotlight, but its not nearly finished yet
[07:40] <robotgeek> Ranma: try tellico then
[07:41] <Ranma> ok thanks for your help
[07:43] <robotgeek> laszlok: better than beagle?
[07:44] <kosh> I just installed kat and added a dir to it and it just keeps giving me a kde crash handle dialog over and over again so it does not seem to work yet
[07:45] <laszlok> robotgeek: definetly not yet, it will be done for kde4 i think
[07:46] <laszlok> when i run kerry, beagled takes up about half my memory!, so it shut it down
[07:49] <kakalto> how do I get amarok?
[07:49] <kakalto> apparently it's not in the sync db
[07:50] <kakalto> woops
[07:50] <kakalto> wrong window :)
[08:14] <atsi> i installed ubuntu from cd and i have downloaded the three dvds from http://cargol.net/~ramon/ubuntu-dvd-en. the default installation has gnome only. is there any way to install kde? is it included in the three set dvds? plz prefix
[08:15] <Jopet> atsi: easiest wayt to install ubuntu with kde is to install kubuntu
[08:19] <atsi> Jopet: now it is too late
[08:20] <Jopet> then grab it from universe, it's the same collection just a big download
[08:21] <atsi> Jopet: is it included in the universe? as i got all three dvds main universe...
[08:22] <atsi> Jopet: and multiverse.
[08:22] <Jopet> atsi: then apt-cache search kde
[08:22] <Jopet> atsi: should be there
[08:23] <atsi> Jopet: ok thanks
[08:29] <atsi> Jopet: one last thing. do i need to look anywhere else for dependencies? or just in the universe?
[08:29] <atsi> i am asking that cause i need to install kdm instead of the deafult gdm.
[08:30] <Mangusta> if you install kubuntu-desktop, you will get evrything you need
[08:30] <atsi> Mangusta: thanks
[08:41] <paines> hi
[08:42] <paines> under dapper when e.g. one app open another the opened one is opened behind the other window.like klicking on a .avi in konqueror and it starts playing it, but the xine window is behind konqueror
[08:43] <paines> any hint how to change this behaviour ?
[08:45] <Jopet> paines: i think so, it has to do with focus settings in your window manager
[08:46] <Jopet> pains: if you give focus to new windows it should popup in front
[08:46] <Jopet> paines:  and i have no idea why that setting isn't default
[08:50] <paines> Jopet: i am wondering too.
[09:08] <Kev1n> anyone good at deciphering errors in config logs?
[09:09] <Kev1n> http://www.kubuntu.pastebin.com/655151
[09:19] <paines> Kev1n: apt-get install build-essential
[09:22] <Kev1n> paines: thanks will do
[09:23] <paines> l8r
[09:31] <nico8481> hi
[09:38] <chx> i installed kweather and the configure page is utterly empty
[09:49] <atsi> hi
[09:49] <Kev1n> lo
[09:50] <smitty> howzit?
[09:50] <Kev1n> good...
[09:50] <Kev1n> and you?
[09:51] <smitty> heh not too bad
[09:51] <atsi> i got a quick question. i got an internet connection at my office that runs windows xp. at my home i got a lan of two PCs runnning ubuntu 5.10. the thing is that i want to have the latest kde everytime. is there anyway to get the files from somewhere and move it to a dvd at my LAN? plz prefix
[09:51] <smitty> although I am wondering why my dapper flight 6 kubuntu install CD does not boot...
[09:51] <Kev1n> cant help you with that as i upgraded recently to dapper from breezy
[09:52] <Kev1n> i did not use the install CD
[09:52] <smitty> Kev1n, that is what I did after fiddling with it for a bit.
[09:52] <smitty> although I added the new dapper CD with apt-add cdrom
[09:53] <smitty> and then did apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:53] <Kev1n> uumm.....
[09:53] <smitty> so it pulled most of the files off the CD
[09:53] <Kev1n> and now it wont boot?
[09:53] <smitty> not it works fine
[09:53] <smitty> but the CD won't boot
[09:53] <smitty> so I can't use it to instal dapper
[09:54] <smitty> well unless I try making a seperate floppy boot disk
[09:54] <Kev1n> smitty: is the cd rom recognised ?
[09:54] <smitty> Kev1n, not on boot - bios message of invalid system disk
[09:54] <smitty> I did md5sum the iso after downlaod and that checked out
[09:55] <Kev1n> is the cd bootable....i presume so
[09:55] <smitty> but you can mount the cd and the contents are available
[09:55] <Kev1n> smitty: did you say earlier that you upgraded to dapper from breezy?
[09:56] <smitty> Kev1n, yup by adding the dapper Cd as a repositry adn runnig dist-upgrade
[09:56] <Kev1n> so why not use adept or synaptic and do full upgrade .. thats what I did... no problems at all
[09:57] <Kev1n> make sure you include universe etc in repositories
[09:58] <smitty> Kev1n, heh not on dialup I won
[09:58] <smitty> won't
[09:58] <smitty> :-)
[09:58] <Kev1n> OK... i see
[09:58] <Kev1n> smitty...soz.. i have 512k broadband
[09:59] <smitty> it's cool I was just trying to find out if there was a problem with dapper flight 6 CDs and booting
[10:00] <Kev1n> i dont know too much... but i would not think i would be booting from the cd as you already have breezy installed... all you are doing is an upgrade ... true?
[10:21] <m0ns00n> Hey
[10:21] <m0ns00n> After upgrading to dapper, I can't access my eth1 and eth2 anymore
[10:21] <m0ns00n> Did anything change?
[10:21] <m0ns00n> I also cannot use KDESU somehow
[10:27] <mindspin> !tell me aboute paste
[10:32] <wsjunior> sup guys.. i'm with ubuntu here and would like to try kubuntu.. is it ok just to install kubuntu-desktop package?
[10:32] <jpatrick> wsjunior: yes
[10:32] <wsjunior> k
[10:32] <wsjunior> thanks
[10:32] <jpatrick> no problemo
[10:39] <atsi> hi i am running ubuntu 5.10. is there any way to get all the kde files from some place in the net and move them to my pc at home and install them?
[10:39] <Hobbsee> atsi: your ubuntu is not connected to the internet?
[10:40] <smitty> Kev1n, yup in then end I just did an upgrade
[10:40] <atsi> Hobbsee, nop
[10:40] <Hobbsee> ah ok
[10:40] <smitty> atsi, it can be done
[10:40] <atsi> Hobbsee, but i got a pc with windows that has internet connection
[10:40] <atsi> smitty, tell me
[10:40] <smitty> but with diifuclty...
[10:41] <atsi> smitty, i forgot to tell you something. hold on a sec
[10:41] <smitty> I"m sure you could get ubunutu to tell you the list of packases it needs to upgarde for the latest kde (which is very nice btw - upgarde to dapper flight6 last night)
[10:41] <smitty> tehn you can download them from a mirror
[10:42] <smitty> copy them to CD and tkae them hoem to your ubunutu machiens
[10:42] <smitty> then dpkg -i them
[10:43] <smitty> btu that is a tricky / messy way to do things
[10:43] <smitty> a simpelr way would be to d/l and burn the dapper ISO to CD adn upgrade using that
[10:43] <atsi> smitty, from this page http://cargol.net/~ramon/ubuntu-dvd-en i got the three dvds. now i need to get the latest kde. could u tell me how/
[10:44] <smitty> you got the 3 dvd's nice
[10:45] <smitty> the thing with ubunutu being a debian based distro is that it uses apt to manage the packages and organieses the packages as repositries
[10:46] <smitty> so I woudl add the dvd's as repositries
[10:46] <smitty> apt-get cdrom add iirc
[10:47] <smitty> once you've added them you should be able to use synamptic / apt-get to upgrade yur KDE
[10:51] <smitty> atsi, I used the above method last night to upgrade from breezy to dapper so hopefully it will work for you. I didn't try to selectively upgrade only KDE...
[10:52] <atsi> smitty, let's say i found a newer edition than the one in the dvds. how do i get it ?
[10:53] <smitty> atsi, is there some reason you want the absolute latest version of KDE?
[10:53] <smitty> the simple adding of CDs / DVDs as repositries only works becasue they have package lists on them
[10:54] <atsi> smitty: ok thanks
[10:54] <smitty> i.e. they are designed to eb added as repostireus
[10:54] <smitty> I thnk you would have to go to the manual method I described first if you wanted to do anything else
[10:54] <smitty> unless of course you get a network connection at home
[10:55] <smitty> in which case you could simply add a repositry and allow apt / synapticto download the needed packages
[11:02] <sredna> Hm, after upgrading, kubuntu forgot that I configured KDM differently
[11:15] <ploosqva> hi. i have a question about kubuntu repositiories
[11:16] <raphink> ploosqva: which are no different than ubuntu ones
[11:16] <edulix> hello
[11:16] <raphink> hi ploosqva && edulix
[11:16] <edulix> how can i set the keyboard of my ttys to spanish?
[11:17] <edulix> in X/KDE/gdm it's already in spanish, but in the terminals it's not
[11:17] <raphink> haven't done that in a while, but iirc you can use loadkeys
[11:18] <Hobbsee> bimberi: ping?
[11:18] <bimberi> Hobbsee: pong
[11:19] <Hobbsee> you applied for membership today, i see?
[11:19] <Hobbsee> congratulations
[11:19] <bimberi> thanks :) (actually it was last monday 3/4)
[11:20] <dc2447>  I am using dapper and I am having problems getting a DLINK dwl-g122 usb2 wireless dongle to be recongised - it uses the rt2500 chipset.  None of the rt modules are loaded in my kubuntu install however even after that there is no /dev/rausb* device created - anyone assist?
[11:20] <Hobbsee> bimberi: ah ok, i thought that i was reading a meeting from a few hours ago or something.  do you know what happens with email?
[11:20] <sredna> Hm, does anyone know if koffice 1.5 is supposed to hit the kubuntu mirrors anytime soon?
[11:21] <edulix> raphink: works wonderful thanks
[11:21] <Hobbsee> sredna: yeah, see kubuntu.org
[11:21] <Hobbsee> separate repo
[11:21] <bimberi> Hobbsee: try <your_lauchpad_id>@ubuntu.com
[11:21] <Hobbsee> bimberi: in where?
[11:22] <jpatrick> sredna: http://kubuntu.org/packages/koffice-15/
[11:22] <bimberi> Hobbsee: as an email address :)
[11:22] <sredna> Hobbsee: So, I have to add another one to my sources? What is the idea? Use up all my harddisk?
[11:22] <Hobbsee> sredna: yeah, i think so...
[11:22] <raphink> sredna: huh?
[11:22] <Hobbsee> bimberi: yes, but how do i access it to see if people have emailed me anything?
[11:22] <raphink> sredna: how is that related with your harddrive space ?
[11:22] <Hobbsee> sredna: you dont need all the stuff from there - just the line your /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:22] <ploosqva> and what about the new kde. why is it on a separate repo as well?
[11:22] <raphink> Hobbsee: your LP email contact is used for redirection
[11:22] <Hobbsee> then again, hard disk space is supposed to be used
[11:23] <Hobbsee> ah...i see :)
[11:23] <jpatrick> Hobbsee: it forwards to your primary email address
[11:23] <Hobbsee> gotcha
[11:23] <raphink> ploosqva: its in dapper
[11:23] <bimberi> Hobbsee: it should redirect to the email address you set on launchpad
[11:23] <sredna> raphink: If I have to add a reposiroty pr package, I'll end uyp needing more dh space sooner or later
[11:23] <raphink> sredna: you don't have to
[11:23] <edulix> raphink: I wonder where should I put the loadkeys command. should I just put in any of the init scripts? :P
[11:23] <raphink> sredna: if you want recent programs, switch to dapper
[11:23] <raphink> edulix: I think there must be a conffile for this
[11:23] <raphink> edulix: did you search on the wiki/forums?
[11:23] <sredna> +, I'd find it nice if I could just find the updates by running apt-get update
[11:24] <raphink> sredna: then wait for koffice to be in
[11:24] <raphink> it won't take long
[11:24] <Hobbsee> bimberi: jpatrick hey cool!  that works!
[11:24] <jpatrick> Hobbsee: wahey
[11:24] <raphink> sredna: so you're running dapper and what repo did you have to add ?
[11:24] <Hobbsee> raphink: the one for koffice 1.5
[11:24] <jpatrick> Tm_T's right I am a crazy Brit
[11:24] <raphink> Hobbsee: obviously you can also send messages with this address ;)
[11:25] <bimberi> Hobbsee: :)
[11:25] <raphink> Hobbsee: no, you just have to wait till the UVFe is accepted
[11:25] <Hobbsee> hmmm...i wonder how...
[11:25] <jpatrick> Hobbsee: set it as Reply-To address
[11:25] <raphink> Hobbsee: e.g. I use gmail for the redirection, and I can add the @ubuntu.com add to my identities. It sends a confirmation message to the add to check I own it and there it goes, I c an send with the gmail SMTP
[11:26] <Tm_T> jpatrick: =)
[11:26] <raphink> jpatrick: there's better :)
[11:26] <Hobbsee> raphink: ahh....okay...
[11:26] <raphink> some smtp servers don't require authentication
[11:26] <raphink> so you might even send directly with your add as sender
[11:27] <raphink> just have to set kmail with it
[11:27] <raphink> iirc
[11:27] <bimberi> raphink: aah, kk - i'd found that it changed the from address to ...@gmail.com - thanks
[11:27] <raphink> bimberi: you can set the @ubuntu.com identity in your settings on the gmail interface
[11:28] <Hobbsee> raphink: trying it...
[11:28] <bimberi> raphink: righto :)
[11:28] <raphink> brb
[11:28] <dc2447> I am using dapper and I am having problems getting a DLINK dwl-g122 usb2 wireless dongle to be recongised - it uses the rt2500 chipset.  None of the rt modules are loaded in my kubuntu install however even after that there is no /dev/rausb* device created - anyone assist?
[11:28] <raphink> dc2447: sorry I don't have wifi
[11:29] <raphink> Hobbsee: create a new identity using this address
[11:29] <dc2447> np
[11:32] <Kev1n> I have a Belkin modem with wifi capabilities but i am using the good old ethernet for the moment, I have not tried to set up wireless as yet on Dapper
[11:32] <Hobbsee> hmmm...it doesnt like it...oh well
[11:34] <edulix> why do ubuntuforums require be registred and logged in to search? it's really annoying
[11:35] <Hobbsee> edulix: they do?
[11:35] <edulix> Hobbsee: yes, and bugmenot loggins are banned
[11:35] <Hobbsee> heh...odd that
[11:36] <Hobbsee> invisionfree forums seem like that too
[11:37] <edulix> Hobbsee: no, it's the forums software. it's the administrator of the forum to blame, I belive
[11:37] <sredna> When I upgrade using adept, the little icon in the systray dissapears after it's done
[11:38] <edulix> I've seen other vBulletin forums which don't require login to search for $DEITY's sake..
[11:38] <Hobbsee> oh ok
[11:38] <Hobbsee> maybe they had spambots trying to search to bring the server down, or something
[11:38] <Hobbsee> er, admin
[11:38] <edulix> :)
[11:39] <edulix> maybe. they should support openid loggins I belive :P
[11:39] <edulix> or maybe just a captcha, couldn't it be enough?
[11:40] <edulix> a captcha "login" to search the whole site for a session, that would be  fair enough hehe
[11:40] <mornfall> sredna: that's the way it's supposed to be yes
[11:40] <mornfall> sredna: no updates to be done => no icon
[11:41] <sredna> mornfall: Ok, but when I start a new session there is an icon even if there are no updates iirc
[11:41] <sredna> Or maybe that changed
[11:41] <mornfall> there definitely shouldn't be any
[11:42] <mornfall> but thinking of it, it may appear for a bit... not sure
[11:42] <mornfall> i'd  have to check
[11:42] <mornfall> but it shouldn't
[11:44] <sredna> mornfall: If you know about it, maybe you know how I can disable that icon for some users?
[11:53] <mornfall> sredna: yeah, if you right click it and select quit, it'll ask if it should run again
[11:53] <mornfall> sredna: on login
[11:53] <mornfall> sredna: it writes a config file into .kde
[11:53] <mornfall> either do it for all the users or copy this config into their homedir
[11:53] <sredna> mornfall: So being an admin, I need to do that step when adding a user?
[11:53] <mornfall> or somesuch
[11:53] <mornfall> sredna: you could put it in skel
[11:53] <sredna> Yea
[11:54] <mornfall> you could also remove the autostart .desktop
[11:54] <mornfall> and put it into homes of users that you want to see it
[11:54] <sredna> It would be smart is a certain group membership was required for that app
[11:54] <mornfall> somewhere :)
[11:54] <mornfall> why
[11:55] <mornfall> it runs as ordinary user... anyone can run it
[11:55] <sredna> Because then it would only be displayed for users for who it would make sense
[11:55] <mornfall> like anyone can run apt-cache
[11:55] <mornfall> that doesn't make sense though
[11:55] <sredna> Well, anyone shouldn't be able to update the system here
[11:55] <mornfall> sredna: and how exactly can you update the system with it?
[11:55] <sredna> And if they see the icon, but can't do anything with the information it's just confusing
[11:56] <sredna> mornfall: Me? I click on it, and enter my password, and adept updates + upgrades if I so desire
[11:56] <mornfall> sredna: assuming you don't have root access
[11:56] <sredna> I believe to be able to do that I actually do need some group membership
[11:56] <mornfall> sredna: if you do, hiding the icon is pointless if you try to keep users from upgrading
[11:57] <mornfall> sredna: you need root access
[11:57] <sredna> mornfall: My point is that the app shouldn't run for users who are not in the admin (or whatever) group
[11:57] <mornfall> sredna: obviously
[11:57] <mornfall> sredna: why?
[11:57] <sredna> Because thy don't need it
[11:57] <sredna> It's just a warning sign that they cant do anything about
[11:57] <sredna> Which is silly
[11:58] <sredna> And potentially confusing/frustrating
[11:58] <mornfall> why they shouldn't get a warning that they run possibly insecure system? (assuming stable system, since with unstable one you are on your own all the time)
[11:58] <mornfall> s/run/log into/
[11:58] <mornfall> you can sure prevent them easily, you are root
[12:07] <Cin> Sorry about the away message, gotta find the setting for it.
[12:09] <sredna> mornfall: So you think it makes sense for children or random non-geeks to see a small warning sign in the systray, producing a tooltip like 'there are 95849685 upgradable packages'? What exactly should that do for them?
[12:10] <morrow> hehe
[12:13] <mornfall> sredna: so you think everything else makes sense for children or random non-geeks? also, is there something with it that couldn't be fixed by rephrasing the text?
[12:16] <sredna> mornfall: Assuming that the system administrator does her job, it should not be visible to non-admins. And while the text of the tooltip makes perfect sense for me, as an admin, it does not for others, but what would be a good text? "Your system is insecure and out of date, please talk to the administrator if you care"?
[12:16] <sredna> Or for children, "BOOH"?
[12:19] <mornfall> sredna: you make bold assumptions about admins doing their job and all
[12:19] <sredna> mornfall: Maybe.
[12:19] <mornfall> sredna: i usually only update system after my fiancee complains about the notifier wanting the update
[12:20] <mornfall> so my use case is exactly opposite as yours
[12:20] <mornfall> what now
[12:20] <sredna> Require a group, as I suggested, would provide an easy way for both of us
[12:21] <mornfall> so a group just for notifications
[12:21] <mornfall> that needs changes in base system
[12:21] <sredna> Or any other way for easily decide who sees it
[12:21] <mornfall> and some way to ask when adding users if they should see notifications
[12:22] <sredna> It could be done within the KDE system as well I suppose, by putting a file in a directory in a KDEDIRS location
[12:22] <mornfall> sure
[12:22] <mornfall> patches are welcome
[12:22] <mornfall> probably dapper+1 we are weeks into the feature freeze
[12:23] <jpatrick> mornfall: bug fixes are ok to upload
[12:23] <sredna> I'm not sure it
[12:23] <sredna> S a bug fix
[12:23] <sredna> Something completely different - can any of you see embedded flash movies in konqueror?
[12:24] <mornfall> it's not a bugfix at all
[12:24] <sredna> And if so, where?
[12:24] <mornfall> it's a new feature and a very intrusive one
[12:24] <sredna> Na, it isn't , and its and area that requires some debate, and some testing
[12:24] <mornfall> you could do some hacky workaround sure
[12:25] <mornfall> so fix it goddamnitalready
[12:25] <mornfall> you get the source
[12:25] <mornfall> all of it
[12:25] <mornfall> if it breaks, keep both pieces
[12:25] <mornfall> or fix it
[12:26] <mornfall> noone can say i ever rejected a good and working patch that wouldn't violate freezes of the moment
[12:26] <mornfall> and if in freeze, i would always use it when freeze is lifted
[12:27] <sredna> Which group is required for admins?
[12:28] <mornfall> if you require admin to show it, that's a bad solution, specifically because it breaks my use cases
[12:28] <mornfall> check your sudoers file, it'll be there
[12:29] <smitty> cheers all
[12:56] <fjellrev1> Are there any easy way to burn vcd?like nero in windows.tried linuxnero but it doesnt have the same function,do I have to convert  them myself?
[12:58] <Nomad411> fjellrev1: Try visiting http://videohelp.com
[01:00] <HymnToLife> or http://www.doom9.net
[01:03] <fjellrev1> thanks,got enough info on both those to keep myself busy for awhile
[01:07] <MidMark> hi guys, someone could tell me why if I have a router dhcp and with my kubuntu if I plug the network cable with a kubuntu fully loaded the dhcp cannot retrieve ip, why?
[01:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> hotplugs probably not working
[01:09] <MidMark> i have dapper fl6, hotplug ins't on by default?
[01:09] <Tm_T> ...but replaced by some other system?
[01:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> hm. dappers a different kettle of fish, but i don't remember what it is
[01:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> udev perhaps
[01:11] <MidMark> udev is not running, but usb storage works... ?!?
[01:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> udev is running.
[01:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> but not as a daeomn
[01:13] <MidMark> should I have to turn on?
[01:13] <davix> ok, what media player can set me up good? kaffeine sucks.
[01:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> MidMark: i don't know - was your computer plugged in during setup? it occured to me the device might not be enabled
[01:15] <MidMark> I cannot remember
[01:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> open konsole, and type "ifconfig"
[01:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> davix: what do you want to play? amarok is popular (sp?)
[01:16] <MidMark> davix: vls is good
[01:16] <MidMark> sorry vlc
[01:17] <davix> MidMark/kamping movies/dvd/etc
[01:17] <MidMark> davix: vlc!
[01:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> davix: i use mplayer, lots of people like VLC
[01:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> or look at amarok ;)
[01:18] <MidMark> amarok is only for music
[01:18] <MidMark> it's the best one for me
[01:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> is it?
[01:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> hm. that's useless :)
[01:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> my bad :)
[01:19] <Kamping_Kaiser> hm. herberts still having issues
[01:19] <MidMark> kamping: what do you want to know for ifconfig?
[01:20] <MidMark> kamping: if I turn on the pc with network plugged it works, if I plug after i won't
[01:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> MidMark: does it have an eth0 or eth1 entry?
[01:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> oh ok
[01:21] <MidMark> I prefer to have dhcp working also if I plug after not only before
[01:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> MidMark: not sure how dapper handles hotplugging of nics - i don't hotplug
[01:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> well i do, but i use static ips
[01:22] <MidMark> I know but sometimes I need dhcp
[01:23] <MidMark> for example @university
[01:23] <vendor> Riddell: hi. could you update koffice-latest so that it points to koffice-15?
[01:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> yeh. i don't know how to make it happen automagicaly.
[01:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> dhclient is what it should run
[01:23] <vendor> (am i the only one using these things?)
[01:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> vendor: probably not :)
[01:24] <Riddell> vendor: done, sorry about that
[01:25] <vendor> Riddell: thanks.
[01:36] <Nomad411> Good morning all, how close are we from getting the next release?
[01:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> first of june
[01:37] <Hobbsee> Kamping_Kaiser: is the first of june really the date, or just sometime in june?
[01:37] <Nomad411> looking forward :)
[01:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> Hobbsee: realy the date
[01:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> *really
[01:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> and wb btw
[01:38] <Hobbsee> ah ok
[01:38] <Hobbsee> ty
[01:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> :) np
[01:41] <texjoachim> hi there!
[02:15] <XVampireX> Hi, on TeamSpeak and on Skype I always get problems, first of all troubles with connecting to servers on TeamSpeak, second I always get disconnected from a connection with friends on Skype after a while, and the same applies to both networks: The sound is choppy on MY side. Others can hear me just fine.
[02:15] <xanax`> hello
[02:16] <XVampireX> Can anyone please help me?
[02:16] <OutoLumo> XVamp, what's the prob?
[02:17] <XVampireX> I just described it
[02:17] <OutoLumo> oh.. wait a sec
[02:17] <XVampireX> [15:15]  <XVampireX> Hi, on TeamSpeak and on Skype I always get problems, first of all troubles with connecting to servers on TeamSpeak, second I always get disconnected from a connection with friends on Skype after a while, and the same applies to both networks: The sound is choppy on MY side. Others can hear me just fine.
[02:17] <OutoLumo> Sorry, not my cup of tea :-(
[02:17] <XVampireX> Oh
[02:18] <h3sp4wn> XVampireX: what router do you use ?
[02:18] <OutoLumo> I'd like to help, but don't know about those things. Are they kubuntu-specific?
[02:19] <h3sp4wn> Router / Connection specific I expect
[02:19] <XVampireX> Does anyone know?
[02:21] <kameron> XVampireX, what sound systema re you using?
[02:21] <XVampireX> Hmm
[02:21] <XVampireX> Yeah, it might be router specific
[02:21] <XVampireX> I use... just a sec
[02:22] <XVampireX>  I use edimax
[02:22] <h3sp4wn> what model number ?
[02:22] <XVampireX> (That's the router)
[02:22] <XVampireX> I don't know
[02:23] <h3sp4wn> does it run linux ?
[02:23] <XVampireX> I don'tknow :O
[02:23] <XVampireX> Just a sec, let me check
[02:24] <XVampireX> On windows it wasn't choppy and didn't have any problems
[02:24] <h3sp4wn> are you using teamspeak / skype under wine (winex etc)
[02:24] <XVampireX> no
[02:24] <XVampireX> natively
[02:25] <XVampireX> Hmm, I got an idea
[02:26] <XVampireX> I'll try launching teamspeak through konsole and see what happens
[02:26] <h3sp4wn> why would that make any difference ?
[02:26] <XVampireX> It's good for debugging, I guess
[02:28] <mhterres> morning
[02:28] <toomai> hi all
[02:28] <XVampireX> Doesn't say anything
[02:28] <buddho> hi toomai
[02:30] <XVampireX> I even put sound buffer size to less latency
[02:30] <soul> hola
[02:30] <toomai> hola
[02:30] <buddho> does someone succeeded mounting /usr on a new partition ?
[02:31] <Linuxhjelp> Hello... When im trying to use make on a file i get error: gcc-3.4; command notfound. But in my synaptic ive only got verision 3.3 and 4.0 avilaible
[02:31] <Linuxhjelp> what should i do?
[02:32] <buddho> apt-cache search gcc-3.4
[02:32] <Linuxhjelp> ive dont got internet:p
[02:32] <toomai> linuxhjelp...with "aptitude search gcc" you will be shown all gcc version available
[02:32] <buddho> that exists : )
[02:32] <Linuxhjelp> on the linux
[02:32] <toomai> ...that makes it quite difficult
[02:32] <soul> tal vez deberias actualizar tus repositorios
[02:32] <Linuxhjelp> its the internet driver im trying to install:P
[02:32] <buddho> download gcc-3.4 now ?
[02:33] <soul> los universe y back
[02:33] <toomai> linuxhjelp...uh...okay....
[02:33] <buddho> have u a common disk between kubuntu and your actual system ?
[02:33] <Sanne> Linuxhjelp, you can get the deb package at packages.ubuntu.com and install it with dpkg -i <packagename> later
[02:33] <buddho> ..an usb key, anything ; ) ?
[02:34] <Linuxhjelp> oh thanks
[02:34] <Linuxhjelp> ive got a usb pen
[02:34] <buddho> but maube someone knows if u will nedd any another lib or
[02:34] <mhterres> Linuxhjelp: install build-essentials
[02:34] <Linuxhjelp> i did
[02:34] <toomai> linuxhjelp...after installing gcc-3.4 do not forget to reconfigure the symbolic link "gcc"
[02:35] <mhterres> yes
[02:35] <Linuxhjelp> but do i ahve to unistall gcc 4.0 before i install gcc-3.4?
[02:35] <toomai> nope
[02:35] <Sanne> Linuxhjelp, make sure you also download any dependencies you might need.
[02:35] <toomai> linuxhjelp...you can install any version of gcc and as many you like...just make sure the dependencies are mathced
[02:36] <buddho> toomai: i even compiled, afer installing an old version of gcc without changing any link, $PATH or so
[02:36] <Linuxhjelp> do i have to downlaod the base and 3.4?
[02:36] <mhterres> no, u can just apt-get install gcc-3.4 g++-3.4
[02:37] <toomai> arr...wrong button
[02:37] <Linuxhjelp> mhterres: i dont got internet on the linxu
[02:37] <mhterres> hmmm :-(
[02:38] <buddho> as sanne sid, find it onserver and take it now it will works fine
[02:38] <buddho> but maybe check if the driver you wan't to compile needs any special lib
[02:39] <toomai> linuxhjelp...may I ask what NIC you have?
[02:40] <Linuxhjelp> toomai: whats nic?
[02:40] <Linuxhjelp> network card?
[02:40] <toomai> NIC = Network Interface Card...network card
[02:40] <Linuxhjelp> Asus WL-167G usb dongle
[02:41] <toomai> uh...okay
[02:44] <buddho> great trouble :can i mount /usr before the etc/rc2.d scripts launch ?
[02:47] <thor_> Does anyone know what the C-Media chip in the Icemat Siberia USB soundcard is called?
[02:55] <Linuxhjelp> Hello
[02:56] <Hobbsee> hi
[02:56] <Linuxhjelp> make[1] : How do i knwo that the package has been built?
[02:56] <Hobbsee> more info?
[02:56] <Linuxhjelp> Ive typed make
[02:57] <Linuxhjelp> and how do i know it was successfull``
[02:58] <buddho> linuxhelp : you also have to install it
[02:58] <Hobbsee> Linuxhjelp: has it returned to a normal command prompt?
[02:58] <Hobbsee> type sudo make install afterwards
[02:58] <Hobbsee> you get big errors if it failed - i'ts pretty obvious
[02:59] <Linuxhjelp> okey
[02:59] <Linuxhjelp> the last line is only levaing directory
[02:59] <Linuxhjelp> and no errors over
[03:22] <Cin> http://rtfs.ath.cx/pub/ubuntulinux.png
[03:22] <Cin> :P
[03:23] <conmiweb> hello? there are anybody?
[03:24] <Hobbsee> !+ask
[03:24] <ubotu> Just ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model, outputs of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl is important.
[03:25] <conmiweb> ok
[03:25] <conmiweb> if i'm going to use KDE with ubuntu, is better to install kubuntu from zero, no?
[03:26] <Hobbsee> from zero?
[03:27] <Cin> conmiweb, go to synaptic and find kubuntu-desktop.
[03:27] <Cin> =] 
[03:28] <conmiweb> yes, i installed it
[03:28] <conmiweb> but...
[03:29] <conmiweb> i think that is better kubuntu since zero no?
[03:29] <conmiweb> now i'm downloading kubunu dapper flight 6
[03:29] <conmiweb> what do you think about?
[03:32] <lorenz> hello, it's possible to install only the base system?
[03:32] <Hobbsee> lorenz: as in, server install?
[03:33] <conmiweb> now i'm downloading kubunu dapper flight 6
[03:33] <lorenz> Hobbsee, i want to select all packages that i want without all X packages
[03:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> lorenz: it's called "server" install
[03:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> for some silly reason
[03:34] <Hobbsee> lol
[03:34] <Hobbsee> you explain Kamping_Kaiser - i've never done a server install :P
[03:34] <lorenz> Kamping_Kaiser,ok
[03:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol. insert cd -> type server -> follow prompts
[03:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> the only diff is no gui at the end (and quicker install)
[03:35] <jjesse> its really easy to do
[03:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> that's how it worked with Breezy.
[03:35] <visik7> anyone here using pydev under kubuntu ?
[03:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> Hobbsee: softy :P
[03:35] <visik7> it's terribly slow for me
[03:35] <lorenz> my goal is to make a media center dedicate system.
[03:35] <lorenz> !freevo
[03:35] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, lorenz
[03:36] <Hobbsee> hehe
[03:38] <Desh> Hi
[03:39] <lorenz> hi
[03:39] <Desh> I need someone to help me clarify something real quick
[03:39] <lorenz> try ;)
[03:40] <Desh> I run a laptop with an amd64, but I installed the x86 version of Kubuntu since I needed to install my 32bit LAN driver. Now, to install a gra[hics driver, what $arch would I use? 686 or k7?
[03:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> install the k7 kernel and use the k7 drivers
[03:40] <Desh> would my 32bit WLAN still work?
[03:40] <conmiweb> now i'm downloading kubunu dapper flight 6
[03:41] <conmiweb> what do you think about?
[03:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> shdould do
[03:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> conmiweb: depends what mood i'm in ;)
[03:41] <Desh> so i use: sudo apt-get install linux-k7?
[03:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> Desh: *should do
[03:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> yeh. try it
[03:41] <conmiweb> why?
[03:41] <noaXess> hi all
[03:41] <Desh> how do i see what kernel im using now?
[03:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> Desh: unam -a
[03:42] <Tm_T> noaXess: hello
[03:42] <noaXess> is there an applet to check automatically for updates an inform me?
[03:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> *uname -a
[03:42] <Desh> cos i think i have like 10 installed >_<
[03:42] <noaXess> hi Tm_kde4
[03:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi noaXess
[03:42] <noaXess> ups hi Tm_T
[03:42] <Tm_T> ;)
[03:42] <noaXess> hi  Kamping_Kaiser
[03:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> Desh:  lol
[03:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[03:42] <noaXess> wow.. more people then yesterday
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[03:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> it's all in the mind
[03:42] <Desh> unam -a : command not found
[03:42] <noaXess> uname
[03:42] <Hobbsee> uname -a
[03:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> uname -a
[03:43] <Desh> oo
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[03:43] <Tm_T> Kamping_Kaiser: :D
[03:43] <Tm_T> ;)
[03:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> ;) :P
[03:43] <Desh> 2.6.12-10-k7   k7 is amd, but im using amd64
[03:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> that's the one you want
[03:44] <noaXess> any idea for my applet? checking for updates..
[03:44] <Desh> ok, how do i get rid of the other kernels I have, like on boot if I press escape I see some more like 686
[03:44] <noaXess> i have kde 3.5.2
[03:45] <Hobbsee> noaXess: adept updater
[03:45] <Hobbsee> ah, you're not on dapper...
[03:45] <noaXess> Hobbsee: yea..
[03:45] <Hobbsee> mornfall: is there an updater for breezy, at the moment?
[03:45] <conmiweb> how can I install my graphics drivers for use xgl?I've an Acer TravelMate 660
[03:46] <noaXess> is dapper stable?
[03:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> Desh: `grep title /boot/grub/menu.list `
[03:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> is a list of installed
[03:46] <Hobbsee> noaXess: not yet.  can depend on the day of the week, lunar cycle, the number of updates, etc
[03:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> noaXess: it varies
[03:46] <noaXess> is there any plan for the released version?
[03:47] <Hobbsee> released on june 1
[03:47] <noaXess> okey..
[03:47] <conmiweb> how can I install my graphics drivers for use xgl?I've an Acer TravelMate 660
[03:47] <noaXess> is it realy like windows vista? they write that... somewhere
[03:47] <Desh> what video card?
[03:48] <conmiweb> Intel Graphics
[03:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> noaXess: no it's not
[03:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> ubuntu has no spyware or drm....
[03:48] <Desh> hmm not sure
[03:48] <Desh> # title         Windows 95/98/NT/2000
[03:48] <Desh> # title         Linux
[03:48] <noaXess> Kamping_Kaiser: ok.. :) LoL... mean the look..
[03:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> Desh: don't flood here!
[03:48] <Desh> title           Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.12-10-k7
[03:48] <Desh> title           Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.12-10-k7 (recovery mode)
[03:48] <lorenz> conmiweb, this card supports 3d acceleration?
[03:48] <Desh> title           Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.12-10-686
[03:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol noaXess dunno about that bit
[03:48] <Desh> title           Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.12-10-686 (recovery mode)
[03:48] <Desh> title           Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.12-10-386
[03:49] <Hobbsee> Desh: do not paste!
[03:49] <Desh> title           Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.12-10-386 (recovery mode)
[03:49] <Hobbsee> !paste
[03:49] <ubotu> Please don't flood the channel! For best results use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and tell people the URL
[03:49] <Desh> title           Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.12-9-386
[03:49] <Desh> title           Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.12-9-386 (recovery mode)
[03:49] <Desh> title           Ubuntu, memtest86+
[03:49] <Desh> lol sorry
[03:49] <Desh> how do i delete non k7'?
[03:49] <noaXess> hey Desh now pastes here.. RED TOPIC
[03:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> conmiweb: try lscp |grep VGA
[03:49] <noaXess> REED
[03:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> and tell us what it says
[03:49] <Desh> :(
[03:49] <lorenz> conmiweb, this card supports 3d acceleration?
[03:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> noaXess: read ;)
[03:49] <conmiweb> yes
[03:49] <conmiweb> in windows yes
[03:49] <Desh> how do i delete 386 and 686?
[03:49] <noaXess> Kamping_Kaiser: shit.. sorry... my fingers are slower then the brain.. :) peace
[03:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> Desh: apt-get remove linux-image-version
[03:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> noaXess: nah, np :D
[03:50] <Desh> ah ok thanks
[03:50] <conmiweb> try lscp |grep VGA
[03:50] <conmiweb> conmiweb@acer660:~$ lscp |grep VGA
[03:50] <conmiweb> bash: lscp: command not found
[03:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> * lspci
[03:50] <v3ctor> lspci
[03:51] <conmiweb> conmiweb@acer660:~$ lspci |grep VGA
[03:51] <conmiweb> 0000:00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corp. 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02)
[03:52] <conmiweb> ?
[03:52] <Desh> and what difference does it make if I use 386, 686 or k7 versions of the kernel?
[03:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> not seen references to them
[03:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> Desh: optimisations
[03:53] <Desh> hmmm ok
[03:53] <Versed`> morning, how does update to kde 3.5.2?
[03:53] <conmiweb> its bad my card?
[03:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> conmiweb: not necesarily. i just don't know anything about it
[03:54] <Hobbsee> !tell Versed` about kde3.5.1
[03:54] <Hobbsee> !tell Versed` about kde3.5.2
[03:54] <conmiweb> i don't know how to install the drivers:(
[03:57] <Desh> sudo apt-get remove linux-2.6.12-10-686  <-- No package found :(
[03:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> conmiweb: i don't know about your exact case. search in apt
[03:57] <Desh> oo
[03:57] <Desh> i got it
[03:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> Desh: it's linux-image-version
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[03:57] <tux> damn
[03:57] <Desh> linux-686 then...
[03:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> tux?
[03:58] <tux> kubu looks very well!
[03:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> it's very blue ;)
[03:59] <tux> eh eh eh
[03:59] <conmiweb> i found that : [edit] 
[03:59] <conmiweb>  Intel Cards
[03:59] <conmiweb> Intel 855GM
[03:59] <conmiweb> Chipset: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Grapics Device
[03:59] <conmiweb> Driver: x11-drivers/xf86-video-i810-1.5.1.0
[03:59] <conmiweb> Notes: Needs >=sys-kernel/*-sources-2.6.16 for DRI
[03:59] <Hobbsee> !paste
[03:59] <ubotu> Please don't flood the channel! For best results use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and tell people the URL
[04:01] <Desh> after I uninstall linix-686 and linux-386, they still appear on the menu.lst
[04:01] <Hobbsee> Desh: then kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.list, and delete the offending sections
[04:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> no
[04:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> Desh: remove them properly
[04:01] <Hobbsee> or cant you do that?
[04:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> sudo apt-get --purge remove linux-image-2.6.xx.xx
[04:02] <Hobbsee> oh, i thought Desh had - with uninstalling them...
[04:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> Hobbsee: meta packages....
[04:02] <Hobbsee> true
[04:02] <Desh> Hmm....
[04:02] <Hobbsee> i'd forgotten about that
[04:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[04:02] <Desh> kernel 2.6.12-10-686
[04:02] <Desh> how would I kill that one?
[04:03] <Desh> kernel 2.6.12-10-686
[04:03] <Desh> woops sorry
[04:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> sudo apt-get --purge remove linux-image-2.6.10-686
[04:03] <Desh> ah ok making sure, thanks
[04:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> thinkm a bit ;)
[04:03] <Desh> lol
[04:03] <Desh> I just dont wanna accidentally delete k7
[04:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> heh
[04:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> if your running it it wotnt let you remove it
[04:04] <Desh> ah ok
[04:04] <Desh> sheesh linux makes my head hurt
[04:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> heh.
[04:05] <Desh> E: Couldn't find package linux-image-2.6.10-686
[04:05] <Desh> o_O
[04:05] <Desh> does that mean..its gone?
[04:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> hm. try linux-kernel
[04:05] <Desh> did that already
[04:06] <Desh> oh...nvm i see what I did
[04:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> ok
[04:06] <Desh> no wait...still
[04:06] <Desh> ok it worked i think
[04:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> its linux-image (*just chekced*
[04:07] <apokryphos> Seveas: I don't believe it :P
[04:07] <apokryphos> nice to have you here =)
[04:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> btw. you can also use dpkg --get-selections |grep linux-image to find installed kernels
[04:08] <Desh> yay 386 is gone
[04:08] <Desh> now to kill 686
[04:08] <Seveas> apokryphos, I may prefer gnome but I like to see what Ubugtu is up to 
[04:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[04:08] <Desh> ok k7 and memtest are only ones left, thanks Kamping_Kaiser
[04:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> wd Desh
[04:09] <apokryphos> Seveas: perfect, that's how it begins. We'll have you as Keveas in no time :P
[04:09] <Desh> now..to reboot and hope flgrx doesnt mess up my xorg
[04:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> apokryphos: what will you do to me though ;)
[04:10] <apokryphos> you're already there, no need to do anything :P
[04:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol.
[04:10] <Seveas> apokryphos, not a chance
[04:11] <apokryphos> Kamping_Kaiser: yup, it's very easy to change the colour of the desktop in KDE :P
[04:11] <Hobbsee> hehe
[04:11] <buz> thankfully
[04:11] <Hobbsee> Seveas: dont think Ubugtu's done anything, but it's useful to have
[04:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[04:12] <buz> is there any way to get kpowersave AND kubuntu-desktop on the same system
[04:13] <buz> not having kubuntu-desktop means aptitude likes to remove stuff left and right because it's "unused"
[04:13] <OdyX> buz: under Breezy ?
[04:13] <buz> dapper
[04:13] <buz> i dont think you can have kpowersave under breezy at all
[04:13] <Hobbsee> buz: with tonio_'s repo, yeah
[04:13] <Hobbsee> it's got a modified version of kubuntu-desktop
[04:13] <buz> where does that live
[04:13] <Hobbsee> it's risky though...
[04:14] <Hobbsee> ah, kubuntu-noip.org i think
[04:14] <buz> i keep daily backups ;)
[04:14] <OdyX> kubuntu.no-ip.org
[04:14] <Hobbsee> might be .com
[04:14] <buz> and have xgl installed
[04:14] <Hobbsee> hehe
[04:14] <buz> cant possibly get much worse really
[04:14] <Hobbsee> well, some bits can break...
[04:14] <mornfall> Hobbsee: updater yes, notifier no
[04:14] <Hobbsee> mornfall: right.
[04:17] <buz> http://kubuntu.no-ip.org/ doesnt list kubuntu-desktop?
[04:18] <apokryphos> why would you need it?
[04:18] <buz> because the normal kubuntu-desktop has powernowd in it which conflichts with powersaved
[04:18] <Hobbsee> maybe the kubuntu-desktop normal metapackage got changed...
[04:18] <buz> Hobbsee: not yet, sadly
[04:19] <apokryphos> what is that repository for?
[04:19] <buz> kpowersave beats klaptop by a long shot
[04:19] <Hobbsee> apokryphos: some testing stuff - like network-manager-kde, kpowersave, etc
[04:19] <apokryphos> belong to anyone in particular?
[04:19] <buz> network-manager-kde and kpowersave live in the repos anyhow
[04:19] <apokryphos> you'd only have to modify the kubuntu-desktop package depends
[04:19] <apokryphos> easy enough
[04:20] <Hobbsee> they do now, yes
[04:20] <buz> yeah but i get it overwritten next update
[04:20] <buz> you sure?
[04:20] <Hobbsee> yep
[04:20] <Hobbsee> unless my panel is lying...
[04:20] <buz> for me they seem mutually exclusive
[04:20] <Hobbsee> but i think there is a k-d in tonio_'s repo, even though it's not listed
[04:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> Hobbsee: 'dpkg --get-selections |grep packagename' to check
[04:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> or (IIRC) dpkg -l |grep packagename
[04:21] <apokryphos> The requested URL /kubuntu/ was not found on this server. :/
[04:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> it's there
[04:22] <buz> yeah that was the other thing i noticed
[04:22] <apokryphos> Kamping_Kaiser: what URL?
[04:22] <Hobbsee> ah yeah...
[04:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> http://kubuntu.no-ip.org/kubuntu/dists/dapper/main/binary-i386/kaffeine_0.8-0ubuntu1_i386.deb
[04:23] <Hobbsee> shows 0.7 - so a versoin from the unofficial repo
[04:23] <Hobbsee> apparently kaffeine was borked - no idea if it is now or not
[04:23] <buz> that sure is one weird server
[04:23] <buz> doesnt find the dirs but delivers deb
[04:23] <Hobbsee> hehe
[04:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> probably has .htaccess set
[04:24] <buz> yeah but that usually doesnt give you 404
[04:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> buz: it does if you tell it :)
[04:24] <buz> sure
[04:24] <buz> i said NORMALLY ;)
[04:24] <me2win> lol
[04:24] <apokryphos> I can think of many odd ways to have it like that, but they're all......odd :P
[04:24] <apokryphos> could be to do with the way he has his no-ip set up
[04:26] <me2win> Kamping_Kaiser: i got off of frozen bubble because somebody else got me addicted to supertux
[04:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[04:26] <Hobbsee> hehe!
[04:26] <me2win> lol
[04:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> supertux is cool, but i'v beaten it already ;)
[04:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> i havent beaten FB
[04:26] <dipnlik> i wanna try stepmania on kubuntu, only played on windows
[04:27] <me2win> lol
[04:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> oh, good idea. *should get truck dismount going*
[04:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> it's a classic game
[04:27] <me2win> lol
[04:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[04:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> wtf? bloody gaim
[04:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> it wont let me talk in #ubuntu-offtopic. all my text is typed in here o_0
[04:29] <Hobbsee> good reason not to use gaim then...
[04:29] <apokryphos> Kamping_Kaiser: after your behaviour we had to remove you from the channel
[04:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> :(
[04:30] <apokryphos> terrible bad bad behaviour
[04:30] <sredna> I'm trying to produce a debian package for a kate plugin, what would be the package type -- single binary or library?
[04:30] <Hobbsee> :P
[04:31] <Hobbsee> sredna: ah...single binary, i'd expect
[04:31] <Kamping_Kaiser> both offtopics are dong it :S
[04:31] <apokryphos> sredna: a binary
[04:31] <sredna> Hobbsee, apokryphos thank you :)
[04:32] <sredna> Hm, I assume I should avoid compiling with unsermake...
[04:33] <_geo-1_> i love u
[04:35] <apokryphos> sredna: yes; kubuntu didn't use it for its packages.
[04:35] <sredna> apokryphos: I dont' think it matters as far as the package will be fully usable
[04:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> Hobbsee: lol to what you juast said in pm - gaim wont let me put text *anywere* but in this channel. i'm just trying to get xchat going ;)
[04:36] <sredna> But I guess unsermake users is a small group
[04:36] <Hobbsee> hehe
[04:36] <apokryphos> Kamping_Kaiser: it's time for your conversion to KVirc :P
[04:37] <mhterres> xchat is nice
[04:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol apokryphos.
[04:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> i would rather use solaris :)
[04:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> mwhahaa
[04:38] <zomak> irssi is cool
[04:38] <lorenz> argh
[04:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> here i am :D
[04:38] <kgoetz> woot!
[04:38] <lorenz> i hate solaris!
[04:38] <kgoetz> lol
[04:38] <lorenz> :P
[04:40] <_geo-1_> hy i'm indonesian people cant u infite me to join !
[04:40] <lorenz> what? :s
[04:41] <Hobbsee> !in
[04:41] <ubotu> well, in is There is a support channel for India, localization, translation and internationalization for Indian languages, as well as support for using Ubuntu in Indian language (for the indic* packages) in the channel #ubuntu-in
[04:41] <Hobbsee> nope, not that one...
[04:41] <Hobbsee> wonder what the indonesian one is...
[04:41] <_geo-1_> i'm deril
[04:43] <lorenz> !it
[04:43] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[04:43] <lorenz> !en
[04:44] <ubotu> somebody said en was Queen's English Speakers; Essex inhabitants who may all go to #ubuntu-uk - anyone from the Island of Great Britain is also welcome.
[04:44] <lorenz> e_e
[04:44] <me2win> lol
[04:44] <me2win> so
[04:44] <me2win> is saying fags wrong in here and ok in there?
[04:45] <dc2447> Could anyone help me work out why my dapper kubuntu install won't recognise my usb wireless adapter - a Dlink dwl-g122 with a  rt 2500 chipset?  Any assistance in getting the kernel to recognise the device would be great.
[04:45] <Hobbsee> !wireless
[04:45] <ubotu> from memory, wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers
[04:45] <_geo-1_> hey are you dont like to speakers to me
[04:47] <me2win> _geo-1_: hello
[04:47] <me2win> _geo-1_: im not sure if there is an indonesian channel
[04:47] <dc2447> The problem isn't the driver rather that fact that the kernel isn't recognising the device at all - no device is being created in /dev
[04:49] <_geo-1_> hy i'm indonesian people my name is deril
[04:49] <me2win> hey deril
[04:50] <sredna> Are dependancies in debian recursive? I mean, if I create a package with a kate plugin, do I need to add all sorts of dependancies, or just 'kate'?
[04:50] <_geo-1_> hey to
[04:50] <buz> sredna: afaik they are recursive
[04:50] <buz> so kate is enough
[04:50] <sredna> Thanks buz
[04:51] <me2win> lol
[04:51] <_geo-1_> i want to know where are i'm join now
[04:51] <kgoetz> !irc
[04:51] <ubotu> somebody said irc was info on irc at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Relay_Chat, or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InternetRelayChat
[04:52] <kgoetz> ^ look on the wiki for a channel
[04:52] <_geo-1_> i dont know about there
[05:04] <tux> how to set root pass?
[05:05] <tux> !root password
[05:05] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[05:08] <doktoreas> hi to all guys
[05:08] <lorenz> hi
[05:17] <doktoreas> is threguys can i modify the live cd, to add some package that are not inside?
[05:25] <Una^> Hey, got a problem with KDE and all music apps, sound only seems to be working under root.. I have added the user as a sudoer but I guess KDE permissions are screwed up somewhere.. Any ideas how I can fix this?
[05:25] <h3sp4wn> user needs to be in group audio
[05:26] <Una^> h3sp4wn: ah right thanks
[05:36] <v3ctor> 55 f-b lvls later....
[05:38] <me2win> lol
[05:38] <me2win> v3ctor: highest I've gotten is 74
[05:39] <v3ctor> lol
[05:47] <Search4Lancer> is there some magic secret to getting transulcency to work?
[05:47] <apokryphos> composite extension or new XGL
[05:49] <Search4Lancer> I'm in 'KDE Control Module' (no idea how I got there) and I tell it to use translucency and shadows, and apply, and fiddle with things, and nothing works
[05:50] <apokryphos> you need to enable the composite extension for that
[05:50] <apokryphos> which is quite buggy on xorg 6.8 (as ubuntu has)
[05:51] <Search4Lancer> humm.....
[05:51] <jpetso> mornfall: I nearly lost my system due to a small mistake, but I'm on Dapper now too
[05:52] <jpetso> mornfall: xorg 7.0 messed up my beautiful fonts again, but the new adept is cool
[05:53] <mornfall> glad to hear that :)
[05:55] <apokryphos> jpetso: where did you install 7.0 from?
[05:55] <apokryphos> oh :-O
[05:55] <apokryphos> dapper has added it in now; interesting
[05:56] <sredna> Yay
[05:56] <sredna> My package works
[05:56] <apokryphos> :)
[05:57] <jpetso> mornfall: regarding adept, there's something i'd consider a bug, and is not fixed yet
[05:58] <jpetso> mornfall: if you enter the sources.list manager and modify, enable or disable some repositories...
[05:58] <jpetso> mornfall: ..and then you press "Close", it's all for naught, because you haven't pressed "Apply" before
[05:59] <jpetso> mornfall: you should ask if those changes should be saved
[05:59] <sredna> For any kate users, you can get it here: http://www.alweb.dk/projects/kate_session_menu
[06:01] <swoke> Hello !
[06:02] <swoke> I've installed kubuntu dapper, and I guess DMA is not enabled...
[06:02] <swoke> But I can't enable it, any idea ?
[06:05] <sredna> I believe DMA is enabled here
[06:05] <sredna> Yes
[06:11] <conmiweb> hi
[06:12] <conmiweb> how can i install xgl on dapper?
[06:13] <sredna> conmiweb: Install xserver-xgl
[06:14] <erg0t_> sredna, by installing xgl, apart from normal xorg... how do you choose wich one to use?
[06:14] <erg0t_> do you have to edit some file?
[06:14] <jpatrick> !xgl
[06:14] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[06:14] <conmiweb> where can i intall it?
[06:14] <doktoreas> guys can i modify the live cd to add some package?
[06:15] <sredna> conmiweb: Like you install anything else, either using adept (or another GUI tool) or using apg-get (or another cli tool)
[06:16] <conmiweb> ok
[06:16] <jpatrick> anyone want me to package something
[06:16] <conmiweb> but i'vent installed my graphic card drivers yeet
[06:16] <conmiweb> i've this card:
[06:16] <sredna> jpatrick: Kmediafactory
[06:16] <conmiweb> [edit] 
[06:16] <conmiweb>  Intel Cards
[06:16] <conmiweb> Intel 855GM
[06:16] <conmiweb> Chipset: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Grapics Device
[06:16] <conmiweb> Driver: x11-drivers/xf86-video-i810-1.5.1.0
[06:16] <conmiweb> Notes: Needs >=sys-kernel/*-sources-2.6.16 for DRI and crashes with mplayer -vo xv.
[06:17] <OdyX> Looking for someone (under Dapper, but not so important) to confirm bug 39312
[06:17] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 39312 in konqueror "BAD tab comportements in Launchpad (and others)" [Normal,Rejected]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/39312
[06:17] <jpatrick> sredna: on it
[06:18] <sredna> jpatrick: So, contribute it here: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=20121
[06:18] <jpatrick> sredna: I'm downloading it now
[06:18] <sredna> I think I'm close to being able to do that with little hazzle on my own actually
[06:19] <sredna> Afterall I did create a  functional .deb today
[06:19] <sredna> With all the correct debian files in it etc
[06:20] <jpatrick> sredna: but I can upload to the archives
[06:20] <sredna> jpatrick: There is a list of dependancies here: http://susku.pyhaselka.fi/damu/software/kmediafactory/documentation.html
[06:20] <sredna> jpatrick: That would be even cooler
[06:21] <sredna> jpatrick: Consider adding my file, http://www.alweb.dk/files/katesessionmenu_0.3-1_i386.deb, or help me understanding what it would take to get it accepted
[06:21] <jpatrick> sredna: I need the src package
[06:22] <jpatrick> sredna: see REVU: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/REVU
[06:22] <sredna> http://www.alweb.dk/projects/kate_session_menu
[06:23] <sredna> Ah, let me try if I can get to contribute it myself
[06:25] <jpatrick> sredna: if you want to help developing by packaging, pop into #kubuntu-devel / #ubuntu-motu
[06:25] <sredna> jpatrick: Thank you
[06:33] <sredna> Hm, how do I get aegypten to work on kubuntu (s/mime + kmail) ?
[06:34] <Riddell> sredna: you need to rebuild it with the appropriate build-depends installed
[06:34] <sredna> Auch
[06:34] <sredna> Rebuild kmail?
[06:34] <Riddell> kdepim
[06:34] <sredna> Yea
[06:35] <Riddell> sredna: do you mean just pgp support?
[06:35] <sredna> I think I have that
[06:35] <sredna> It seems so
[06:35] <Riddell> sredna: make sure you have all breezy updates installed, that adds php support
[06:35] <sredna> Php!?
[06:35] <Riddell> pgp, sorry
[06:35] <sredna> I'm running dapper here
[06:36] <Riddell> yeah, so that should be in
[06:36] <sredna> There are gpgme and gpgsm
[06:36] <sredna> Iirc gpgsm is what kmail requires
[06:36] <sredna> I have gpg-agent and pinentry-qt
[06:37] <sredna> What does the 'p' mean in package listings?
[06:38] <sredna> Found it
[06:38] <Riddell> where?
[06:39] <sredna> The meaning of 'p', in aptitude manual
[06:41] <sredna> After that, kmail finds the gpgsm backend
[06:41] <sredna> The S/MIME config page is still disabled
[06:42] <sredna> Hm
[06:43] <sredna> I look forward to the day when adept will actually offer to install recommended and suggested packages
[06:43] <me2win> ?
[06:47] <jpatrick> sredna: ask mornfall
[06:48] <sredna> mornfall: Are there plans to have adept offer to install suggested/recommended packages in any foreseeable future?
[06:48] <sredna> Riddell: In fact, I could install kleopatra, and afaics there should be no reason to rebuild
[06:49] <Riddell> sredna: oh, cool, does it work?
[06:50] <sredna> Well, I can use the signed  messages I have, and sign messages similar to how I used to
[06:50] <sredna> Riddell: As I have no certificates that are yet supported by kleopatra, I can't tell for sure, but I assume so.
[06:51] <sredna> The signature that we can get in denmark supported by the state as our official digital signature is a pcks12 file, and kleopatra can't import it unfortunately
[06:52] <Riddell> sredna: and that's not pgp?
[06:52] <sredna> No, those are certificates
[06:53] <sredna> I hope it will work some day, if even to prove that OSS works
[07:03] <_kyle> Sorry if this is stupid, but how can I find my ethernet card's brand in kubuntu?
[07:04] <_kyle> and possibly what driver it is using?
[07:04] <johnny3d> how do I change the screen resolution in kubuntu?
[07:04] <me2win> _kyle: not sure myself, try asking in #ubuntu
[07:04] <_kyle> will do, thanks
[07:06] <johnny3d> nevermind
[07:06] <johnny3d> I have no sound.
[07:06] <johnny3d> I need sound
[07:06] <tunnuz> hi
[07:07] <tunnuz> how to mount another linux hdd under kubuntu?
[07:07] <tunnuz> probabily ext2
[07:07] <johnny3d> tunnuz just pop in the hd and install kubuntu
[07:07] <johnny3d> grub will handle it
[07:07] <tunnuz> mmm no
[07:07] <tunnuz> i already have kubuntu installed
[07:08] <tunnuz> but on the other pc i got kernel panik
[07:08] <tunnuz> so i connected the panicked hdd to the kubuntu machine
[07:08] <tunnuz> and now i want to backup all the files
[07:08] <jpatrick> mount -f ext2 /dev/hdX /media/linux2
[07:08] <jpatrick> I think
[07:09] <tunnuz> it returns me an error
[07:12] <inc|freaky> what is a good wlan manager (client) for KDE, with which i can set up multiple networks (im running kubuntu on my laptop) and which also supports WEP and WAP encryption?
[07:12] <Wizzy_Kidd> anyone here ever use Western Union Money Zap Service
[07:13] <Wizzy_Kidd> Kwifimanager
[07:13] <bhna> knetworkmanager
[07:13] <johnny3d> need help with no sound
[07:13] <inc|freaky> they both dont support wpa
[07:14] <Riddell> sredna: what is the certificate for?
[07:37] <inc|freaky> is there any password manager compatible with keepass password safe?
[07:37] <jjruiz> Hi
[07:37] <jjruiz> Hoe you!!!
[07:38] <jjruiz> how are you?
[07:38] <jjruiz> is there any girl for chatting!
[07:48] <_harm> do u have to buy Cedega or can u also do it free?
[07:51] <sredna> Riddell: Certificates are used for webbrowsers for example. I use the certificate from the gouverment to identify myself on several websites like tax services and such. But they can be used to sign files with as well, for example email or pdf files if there is a client that supports that
[07:53] <Riddell> sredna: so it's just doing pgp signing but with ssl certificates.  interesting
[07:53] <uniq> _harm: you can compile the development version yourself and use it for free. Binary packages you have to buy.
[07:54] <_harm> thx uniq
[07:54] <sredna> Riddell: I dont' know the internals, but it's done by gpgsm
[07:54] <jpetso> Riddell: Dapper's knoda is broken
[07:54] <Riddell> jpetso: how so?
[07:55] <jpetso> Riddell: no, it's really libhk_kdeclasses
[07:55] <jpetso> Riddell: it's missing the .so file
[07:55] <jpetso> Riddell: quote: knoda: error while loading shared libraries: libhk_kdeclasses.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[07:55] <Riddell> jpetso: knoda pacakge is installed?
[07:55] <jpetso> Riddell: sure, and updated to the latest 0.8.0
[07:56] <jpetso> Riddell: but that file should actually be part of the libhk_kdeclasses package
[07:58] <pachu> helo world
[07:58] <nuky> hi, in my kde, i changed the setting for folders by setting them to always open in xfe (file manager) by right clicking and choosing, open with, and then selecting the do this always option.. but now i have uninstalled xfe, i can't get the folders to open in konqueror the way they used to.. if i choose for them to open with "konqueror", then they always open a seperate window/tab... any ideas on how i can set it back to the original bahavi
[08:00] <Search4Lancer> alright
[08:00] <Search4Lancer> now I'm pissed
[08:00] <jpatrick> Search4Lancer: why?
[08:01] <Search4Lancer> I rebooted, and it won't boot up, says sda6 (my kubuntu partition) can't be found
[08:01] <Search4Lancer> all I did before that was update some packages that it wanted to update, and download a few more
[08:02] <jpetso> nuky: Did you try the option in the Konqueror settings (Web Behaviour section, Tabbed Browsing advanced options) that says "Open as tab in existing Konqueror when URL is called externally"?
[08:02] <Search4Lancer> booted into windows to play some PartyPoker, went to go back into ku, and got that
[08:07] <cosmic_> hi @ all
[08:09] <mhterres> Search4Lancer: what's happening ? kernel panic ?
[08:10] <Search4Lancer> it keeps saying it can't find the partition when I try to boot
[08:10] <mhterres> hmmm, not even start to boot ?
[08:10] <Search4Lancer> tries to boot, but doesn't get too terribly far into it
[08:11] <mhterres> are you using grub ?
[08:11] <nuky> jpetso: thanks, but i mainly use konqueror in split pane view, and it then opens in another tab, whereas, i want it to open in the same pane that i click on it in.. i can't get that bahviour back.. for example, in the konqeuror midnight commander profile view
[08:12] <mhterres> nuky: try CTRL+SHIFT+L
[08:12] <Una^> sudo update-alternatives --set java /usr/lib/j2se/1.5/bin/java
[08:12] <Una^> update-alternatives: Cannot find alternative `/usr/lib/j2se/1.5/bin/java'.
[08:12] <_bbeck> I just updated KOffice today, but when I start krita I get... Cannot start Krita: no colorspaces available.  Has anyone else seen this?
[08:12] <Search4Lancer> yes mhterres, using grub
[08:12] <Una^> whats wrong with that?, I know the file is there
[08:13] <cosmic_> Does anyone know the Game UFO - Alien Invasion ?? I don't get it work under ubuntu ... he is missing a file called ref_gl.so ?!?! would someone be so kind trying to help me?
[08:14] <method|> hey does anyone know how to change the color of the kmenu button?
[08:14] <method|> i have a black them and the blue kde button looks out of place
[08:15] <_bbeck> The kmenu button is a png in your icon set, if you'd like to change its color, you have to change it there.
[08:15] <method|> where would the path to that be?
[08:15] <method|> <--newb
[08:16] <mhterres> Search4Lander: try to modify the boot options
[08:16] <method|> also how can i change the foreground color of a menu?
[08:17] <method|> in kde of course
[08:18] <Search4Lancer> mhterres, to what? worked fine before, dunno what would've changed
[08:18] <mhterres> I don't know
[08:18] <mhterres> but it is a chance
[08:23] <cosmic_> hi
[08:23] <cosmic_> Does somebody know where i get the file ref_gl.so from ???
[08:24] <wsjunior> hello guys, i've installed kubuntu-desktop on my ubuntu and now i want to remove it but when i try to remove kubuntu-desktop only the metapackage is removed.. how to remove all kde apps installed with kubunut-desktop?
[08:25] <jpatrick> wsjunior: remove kdelibs4
[08:26] <method|> how do you change the color of the scroll bars?
[08:26] <method|> mine are still blue :/
[08:36] <sredna> raphink: Thank you :)
[08:36] <raphink> what for sredna?
[08:36] <raphink> ah ok :)
[08:38] <pradeepto> oke I apt-get installed amarok beta 1.4b3 for dapper yesterday? I dont see the promised new icons :(
[08:39] <pradeepto> the startup tile is still the same from 1.4b2 ?? Why?
[08:41] <method|> anyone know how to change the scrollbar color in kde?
[08:43] <Wizzy_Kidd> ERROR: Communication problem with ark, it probably crashed.
[08:44] <Wizzy_Kidd> thats all i get when i try to run ark
[08:45] <method|> when i say the scroll bar i mean the scrollbar of non-kde applications
[08:51] <Wizzy_Kidd> why is my ark not working even after a re installl
[08:51] <Wizzy_Kidd> is there any other kde archiving apps
[08:52] <wsjunior> jpatrick, thanks
[08:54] <n3storm> Wizzy_Kidd: what is not working=
[08:54] <Wizzy_Kidd> ERROR: Communication problem with ark, it probably crashed.
[08:54] <Wizzy_Kidd> i get that everytime i try to run ark
[08:56] <gourdin> hi there
[08:57] <gourdin> I'm on a new laptop
[08:57] <gourdin> When I rsync my old home, I loos network on my new one
[08:57] <gourdin> ifconfig show the card
[08:57] <gourdin> nothing in logs
[08:57] <gourdin> network restart will dhcp eth0 but never get a new IP
[08:57] <gourdin> I got to reboot
[08:58] <gourdin> is this a known issue with some net adapter on kubuntu ?
[09:00] <bh4tw> hi
[09:00] <bh4tw> why cant i add a vga mode to grub? i tried installing grub2 but the screen still goes blank
[09:04] <johnny3d> I can see amarok playing a cd but i can't hear it.
[09:05] <paines> hi
[09:06] <paines> the focus behaviour in dapper is broken. when I open up an app it is opened behind an other open app. any idea how to change this ?
[09:06] <johnny3d> paines, try #ubuntu+1
[09:06] <johnny3d> thats all dapper
[09:06] <paines> oh. didn't know that. thanks dude
[09:06] <johnny3d> np
[09:10] <method|> how do I change the login screen background?
[09:10] <paines> method|: start kcontrol->system administration->login manager->administrator mode
[09:14] <method|> that doesn't load up for me :/
[09:14] <paines> method|: xou are using kde 
[09:14] <paines> ?
[09:15] <method|> yes im using kde
[09:15] <method|> actually nevermind
[09:15] <method|> i got it
[09:15] <method|> thanks
[09:15] <paines> hrhr
[09:16] <johnny3d> howcan I fix my no sound problem in kubuntu breezy?
[09:16] <paines> johnny3d: what is your problem
[09:17] <method|> anyone know how to change the color of the button text in the taskbar?
[09:17] <johnny3d> paines, i play a cd on amarok and it plays but I can't get any sound
[09:17] <Search4Lancer> I have the same problem, actually
[09:18] <paines> johnny3d: alt+f2, kmix
[09:18] <Search4Lancer> but first I need to be able to boot :-P
[09:18] <paines> johnny3d: and look if cd is enabled
[09:18] <method|> brb
[09:18] <johnny3d> paines, yep, been there, done that.
[09:19] <paines> johnny3d: and it is tuned up ?
[09:19] <Crashoveride> Hey all, question, Im on my server and I cant figure out how to give myself access to my http server.
[09:19] <paines> johnny3d: and the button is green for cd ?
[09:19] <johnny3d> yep
[09:20] <johnny3d> for the record paines I installed a sound card and same deal.
[09:20] <paines> johnny3d: and did you connect the soundcard and cdrom with the audio cable ?
[09:20] <johnny3d> paines, is that the 9 prong or 4 prong?
[09:21] <paines> johnny3d: prong ?
[09:21] <Crashoveride> How do i give myself access to folders?
[09:21] <paines> what is that
[09:21] <johnny3d> paines, yes, I checked and rechecked my inputs
[09:22] <paines> johnny3d: hmmm. running out of ideas
[09:22] <johnny3d> paines, :(  thats the usual reception I'm getting.
[09:23] <paines> johnny3d: try another cd app. like kscd
[09:23] <johnny3d> ok
[09:24] <paines> johnny3d: or cdcd
[09:25] <johnny3d> paines, kscd-- same deal
[09:26] <paines> johnny3d: well really run out of ideas. sorry mate
[09:26] <Crashoveride> anyone wanna give me a hand?
[09:26] <johnny3d> I thank you for the help anyway, paines
[09:26] <paines> johnny3d: hwo about ripping the cd to you box as ogg
[09:26] <Crashoveride> How do i give myself access to folders?
[09:26] <johnny3d> paines, will try
[09:27] <paines> johnny3d: open up cd with konqueror and you will see ogg / mp3 /flac folder. just drag it to your desktop and it will start ripping end encoding., very nice
[09:27] <johnny3d> will do paines
[09:28] <paines> Crashoveride: please be a bit more specific
[09:28] <Crashoveride> I dont have permission to save into a file I want to, how do I set my account to be root?
[09:29] <johnny3d> Crashoveride, $sudo chmod 666 /path/to/folder/
[09:30] <Crashoveride> chmod: changing permissions of `/var/www/': Operation not permitted
[09:30] <jpatrick> :/
[09:30] <johnny3d> did you use sudo?
[09:30] <Crashoveride> yes
[09:30] <johnny3d> are you the root user of the comp?
[09:31] <Crashoveride> ok i fixed, I went sudo -s
[09:31] <Crashoveride> then typed what you want
[09:31] <Crashoveride> nvm didnt work
[09:31] <Crashoveride> how do i login as root?
[09:32] <johnny3d> sudo will make you root temporarily.
[09:32] <jpatrick> or sudo -i
[09:32] <johnny3d> paines, ripping didn't work
[09:32] <Crashoveride> it didnt work
[09:33] <johnny3d> *ripped but no sound
[09:33] <johnny3d> Crashoveride, are you using someone else's comp?
[09:33] <Crashoveride> no its my server, does it matter fi Im accessing over nomachine?
[09:33] <johnny3d> Crashoveride, are you trying to ftp files?
[09:34] <paines> johnny3d: well seems like something else is wronmg. like cables or so.
[09:34] <Crashoveride> no using apache
[09:34] <johnny3d> thankyou paines
[09:34] <johnny3d> Crashoveride, what are you trying to do ultimately?
[09:34] <Crashoveride> host some of my php
[09:34] <johnny3d> Crashoveride, can you just make a folder?
[09:35] <Crashoveride> access denied
[09:35] <johnny3d> Crashoveride, log out and back in.  You should have sudo privelages.
[09:35] <Crashoveride> k
[09:38] <Crashoveride> ok
[09:38] <Crashoveride> It doesnt work
[09:38] <Crashoveride> what exactly am I suppose to type?
[09:39] <johnny3d> $sudo chmod 666 /path/to/folder
[09:39] <johnny3d> Crashoveride, or try $sudo chown <yourusername> /path/to/folder/
[09:40] <Crashoveride> chmod: changing permissions of `/var/www': Operation not permitted
[09:40] <Crashoveride> jon@ubuntu:~$ $sudo chown jon /var/www
[09:40] <Crashoveride> chown: changing ownership of `/var/www': Operation not permitted
[09:40] <Crashoveride> oops sorry
[09:40] <johnny3d> Crashoveride, I have no idea, then.
[09:40] <Crashoveride> ok
[09:41] <asdf25> anyone know how i can change my GTK programs back to looking like GTK instead of KDE?
[09:41] <johnny3d> asdf25, when you log in choose gdm session
[09:42] <asdf25> hm...
[09:43] <bhna> adsf25 systemsettings
[09:43] <asdf25> ah cool, thanks
[09:43] <bhna> asdf25 systemsettings -> appearence -> gtk
[09:44] <asdf25> i think i was only having trouble cause GNOME art manager is broken now
[09:49] <johnny3d> could my sound not play due to low ddr?
[09:49] <paines> ddr ?
[09:50] <coccolino> hello
[09:50] <johnny3d> paines, new motherboard, low ddr so far.  'virtual memory'
[09:52] <mornfall> sredna: depends on definition of foreseeable
[09:56] <rohan> is there some kind of an "extras" disc that has codecs, ff, and other stuff from it ?
[09:57] <rohan> kind of like all the stuff automatix installs, available on a cdrom
[09:57] <bhna> rohan: no
[09:57] <sredna> mornfall: Sorry, kde jammed up. By foreseeable I mean something like, is it planned?
[09:57] <rohan> damn
[09:59] <bh4tw> does anyone know why the screen goes blanc when booting with a different vga mode in grub?
[10:00] <bh4tw> i just did a fresh in stall and the high vga mode worked during the setup, but not on boot
[10:11] <johnny3d> I think I may have found out why my sound plays but not through the speakers;
[10:11] <johnny3d> $/file/to/play/ is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
[10:12] <LucasH> Hi
[10:15] <jeff_> hey guys
[10:16] <LucasH> root@pc-linda:/usr/local/games/quake2 # ./quake2 +set vid_ref softx
[10:16] <LucasH> bash: ./quake2: No existe el fichero o el directorio
[10:16] <jeff_> is there any way to get nice window dropshadows in breezy with stability?
[10:16] <LucasH> any idea??
[10:16] <jeff_> does anybody know how to use the xcompmngr?
[10:17] <bhna> jeff_: yes. right klick a windowsborder
[10:17] <jeff_> bhna: then what?
[10:18] <bhna> jeff_: sorry have a german kde her.
[10:18] <jeff_> ?
[10:18] <jeff_> ur using german kde?
[10:19] <bhna> jeff_: yes
[10:19] <jeff_> lol ok
[10:20] <jeff_> does anybody know how to use the xcompmgr?
[10:20] <jeff_> !xcompmgr
[10:20] <ubotu> jeff_: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:20] <jeff_> damn
[10:20] <jeff_> !transparency
[10:20] <ubotu> jeff_: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:21] <jeff_> damn
[10:26] <tomas__> hi
[10:26] <tomas__> can anyone tell me why i get weird symbols when opening files in kate which has swedish letters?
[10:26] <tomas__> im
[10:27] <tomas__> i get like a picture with a ? inside it :/
[10:36] <jeff_> maybe you dont have the language installed?
[10:39] <jeff_> peeps?
[10:40] <johnny3d> it seems some of my files are owned by uid 0.  I am the only user of my system and my uid is set at 1000.  how can I consolidiate ownership?
[10:41] <crimsun> there's probably a reason uid 0 (cf. root) owns them.
[10:42] <johnny3d> I think its the root of my problem with sound playing but not through the speakers.
[10:43] <crimsun> what is it playing through instead?
[10:43] <johnny3d> it plays onscreen.  but not through my speakers
[10:44] <crimsun> what chipset are you using?
[10:44] <crimsun> and is this on breezy or dapper?
[10:44] <johnny3d> breezy
[10:48] <Wizzy_Kidd> what pkg do i need ot installl to watch wmv movies
[10:49] <johnny3d> crimsun, Realtek ALC655 rev 0 for my chipset
[10:49] <crimsun> johnny3d: have you tried a dapper flight 6 live cd?
[10:50] <johnny3d> crimsun, no I haven't
[10:50] <crimsun> johnny3d: we're no longer fixing bugs in Breezy unless they're security-related. Development is in Dapper.
[10:51] <johnny3d> crimsun, can I just upgrade through synaptic or kynaptic or adept?
[10:51] <crimsun> sure.
[10:51] <crimsun> !upgrade
[10:51] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade.  Upgrading to dapper (remember it may break). Please test the dist-upgrader -> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html.
[10:54] <sethman> Hello, Can I ask a question here about intalling a wireless adapter in Kubuntu?
[10:55] <johnny3d> crimsun, does that apply to kubuntu?
[10:55] <crimsun> johnny3d: sure
[10:58] <Wizzy_Kidd> why are my wmv filesnot working
[10:58] <Wizzy_Kidd> !restricted
[10:58] <ubotu> well, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[10:58] <sethman>  I am trying to install my DLINK Wireless Adapter USB device (DWL-G122 H/W ver::B1 F/W Ver.:2.02) and have been encountering a problem. It appears that I have to compile the driver to work on my system and when I go to "make" the drivers, I get an error.
[11:00] <epinephrine> drivers were built in for me on dapper
[11:02] <johnny3d> crimsun, I copied the source to sources.list but I get a malformed expression.
[11:02] <crimsun> johnny3d: all you had to do was replace all "breezy" strings with "dapper"
[11:03] <johnny3d> crimsun, but didn't you ask me to test the upgrader?
[11:03] <crimsun> no, I gave you a link.
[11:04] <johnny3d> well heck I know how to do that. :P
[11:06] <crimsun> pastebin your current sources.list
[11:07] <neoncode> how do you acsess the history in konq?
[11:08] <johnny3d> http://pastebin.com/656455
[11:09] <johnny3d> by the way, crimsun, when using kate; $Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-johnny3d" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
[11:11] <crimsun> johnny3d: just comment out the last line unless you want to use the updater
[11:12] <johnny3d> ok.
[11:12] <neoncode> Does anyone know how to accsess the history in konqueror?
[11:14] <jpatrick> F9
[11:22] <jeff_> hey guys
[11:34] <sethman> Can I get some help compiling a Wireless Adapter driver? : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12112
[11:47] <ports_> hi
[11:51] <noteventime> 'ello
[11:52] <noteventime> sethman, Have you tried the wext drivers?
[11:53] <n3storm> sethman: one thing
[11:53] <n3storm> are you around?
[11:54] <n3storm> noteventime: I think he/she wrote configure with mays "Configure"
[11:58] <jeff_> hey guys
[11:58] <jeff_> i keep getting this when i try to install amarok-xine
[11:58] <jlb> can anyone give me a hint on whether it is worth updating KDE to 3.5.2?
[11:58] <jeff_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12114
[11:59] <jeff_> i did just the other day and i dont see a huge difference
[11:59] <jeff_> i get the same thing when i try to install amarok-engines too
[12:00] <jlb> even in adept?
[12:01] <jeff_> i get a different error in adept
[12:01] <jeff_> but it still doesnt work
[12:01] <jlb> what error do you get in adept?
[12:01] <jeff_> ill check
[12:02] <jlb> where do I go to update KDE to 3.5.2?  I went to the website and it says to go here:  "deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde352 breezy main", but where do I type that in?  Konsole, Command Prompt or Konquer?