[12:13] aaa [12:13] Whoops. === Sergi0 [n=serge@ip227-28-166-62.adsl.versatel.nl] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === ..[topic/#ubuntu-meeting:Ubugtu] : Calendar: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/ | 12 Apr 12:00 UTC: Edubuntu | 12 Apr 14:00 UTC: Xubuntu | 13 Apr 14:00 UTC: Dapper Development Status | 18 Apr 21:00 UTC: Community Council | 19 Apr 12:00 UTC: Edubuntu | 19 Apr 14:00 UTC: Xubuntu === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === No1Viking [n=Viking@h-83-140-104-3.ip.cust.port80.se] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.36] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.36] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["Konversation] === Meyer [i=mariomey@ubuntu/member/mariomeyer] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === Sergi0 [n=serge@ip227-28-166-62.adsl.versatel.nl] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === bur[n] er wonders wtf UTC is compared to MST [03:00] @schedule MST [03:00] Schedule for MST: 12 Apr 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Edubuntu | 12 Apr 16:00: Xubuntu | 13 Apr 16:00: Dapper Development Status | 18 Apr 23:00: Community Council | 19 Apr 14:00: Edubuntu | 19 Apr 16:00: Xubuntu [01:06] ogra, Oliver i am early, I am going to make coffee or nap for another bit. [01:06] :) [01:06] @schedule [01:06] schedule Retrieve the date/time of scheduled meetings in a specific timezone [01:06] you need to give it your timezone as argument [01:06] @schedule EST [01:07] @schedule EST [01:07] Schedule for EST: 12 Apr 07:00: Edubuntu | 12 Apr 09:00: Xubuntu | 13 Apr 09:00: Dapper Development Status | 18 Apr 16:00: Community Council | 19 Apr 07:00: Edubuntu | 19 Apr 09:00: Xubuntu [01:07] Schedule for EST: 12 Apr 07:00: Edubuntu | 12 Apr 09:00: Xubuntu | 13 Apr 09:00: Dapper Development Status | 18 Apr 16:00: Community Council | 19 Apr 07:00: Edubuntu | 19 Apr 09:00: Xubuntu [01:07] :) [01:07] wow, its early at your place :) [01:07] oh yea... [01:07] flint: I was early too [01:07] there must be something in the air [01:07] ogra is the only one fully awake today [01:08] JaneW, mornin' darling, it ain't the smell of coffee... the child is healthy? [01:09] flint: hopefully getting there [01:09] although I had a serious relapse yesterday [01:09] the day had started so promisingly... [01:09] you all know that I had to get a job... this is taking up an inordinant amount of my spare time... worse than an afliction imho... === Florob [n=Florian@xdsl-81-173-229-81.netcologne.de] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [01:10] JaneW, sorry to hear about the back... [01:10] flint: does that mean you got a job? [01:11] JaneW, my wife does pelates to combat back pain. [01:11] flint: I fear this is a sign of my increasing age taking it's toll [01:11] flint: I do yoga === JaneW LOL at the guy who complained about my dapper status update meeting reminder. [01:12] JaneW, I work for a php firm called code4design took them to LinuxWorld and I am in the process of getting them loaded on IBM zSeries Mainframes... [01:12] flint: interesting [01:12] flint: from Vermont? [01:12] JaneW, work from my little house in Vermont. I needed the money... [01:13] :^) [01:13] JaneW, if i hadn't pissed off the other Jane, I might have been involved with the Montreal mafia, this is a user support job just the same... [01:14] flint: yes I imagine she is no longer in your fan club! [01:15] JaneW, Not like i was shy and did not try... :^) [01:15] what did you do to her ? [01:15] JaneW, it is probably better this way. [01:15] flint: hey you spoke your mind... [01:15] ogra, Ollie when I keep you out of the line of fire, just enjoy your foxhole :^) [01:15] you may have been smoking crack at the time... [01:16] but still [01:16] JaneW, scratch the surface of me and find an idealist. === JaneW contemplates entering 'Survivor' [01:16] I need some excitement [01:16] lol [01:17] JaneW, I do what i can to entertain... [01:17] b back soon... === asw [n=asw@karuna.med.harvard.edu] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === Kinnison [n=dsilvers@haddenham.pepperfish.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === phlaegel [n=phlaegel@atdot.ca] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === Hirvinen [i=hirvinen@kapsi.fi] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === ealden [n=ealden@203.76.212.70] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === Cassidy [n=gdesmott@di-pc65.ulb.ac.be] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [01:29] JaneW, admit it, you just want to train your whip on innocent Ubuntu users [01:30] Seveas: damn you foiled my thinly veiled plot! [01:31] JaneW, look at the banlist in #ubuntu, there are some willing test subjects [01:31] Seveas: ooh === JaneW cracks knuckles [01:33] Seveas: we've always known that [01:33] JaneW has been perfectly willing to wield that whip [01:35] hehe [01:40] ajmitch, only if there are willing victims offering themselves :) [01:42] like the whole dev team :) [01:42] :) === Hobbsee runs and hides :P [01:43] i must say, that ubuntu banlist is pretty impressive... === flint returns with coffee... [01:43] Hobbsee, how does one read the banlist maybe /banlist? [01:44] flint: /mode #ubuntu b [01:44] Hobbsee, thanks... wilco === Hobbsee has had to learn such things, to respond quickly to...um...painful users... [01:46] #kubuntu list is also rather impressive... === j_ack [n=nico@p508D9454.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === ..[topic/#ubuntu-meeting:Ubugtu] : Current meeting: Edubuntu | Calendar: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/ | 12 Apr 14:00 UTC: Xubuntu | 13 Apr 14:00 UTC: Dapper Development Status | 18 Apr 21:00 UTC: Community Council | 19 Apr 12:00 UTC: Edubuntu | 19 Apr 14:00 UTC: Xubuntu [01:57] ajmitch: hey it's not my fault thay are all S&M fetishists [01:57] but it helps... [01:58] we just didnt know before we met you ;) === bimberi [n=bimberi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.bimberi] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === apokryphos [i=[U2FsdGV@server2.polaristar.com] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [02:01] JaneW, we love being obedient to Mistress Jane, and appreciate the punishment... [02:01] ...That said let us begin our deliberations... :^) === Hobbsee rolls her eyes [02:02] ok who is here? === ogra hides === Hobbsee shuts up as well, seeing that the meeting is starting :P === flint thinks that this is not a question to answer in the negative... [02:02] Hobbsee: you are welcome to participate, if you haqve an interest in Edubuntu [02:02] -q [02:03] absolutely ! [02:03] anyone else here for the edubuntu meeting? [02:03] indubidably...(sp?) [02:03] seems to be the usual guilty suspects === juliux here [02:03] do we wait 5 mins or do we start ? [02:03] hi juliux [02:03] hi JaneW === apokryphos has come to observe :) [02:03] I think we should wait 2 mins === Hobbsee will observe as well [02:03] ok === bimberi is lurking [02:03] you cant use the standard "if hobbsee is here, then everyone is, because hobbsee's always the latest" here though... [02:04] /offtopic [02:04] ogra: since your 2 min updates are usually the meat that the meeting chews on for most of the rest of the time... [02:04] heh [02:04] i have not much this week ... [02:04] JaneW, in elkners defense, the little whiner is likely teaching class, probably on a flight 6 system... [02:04] highvoltage, you here? [02:04] flint, crazy guy [02:04] flint: great, so he is actively testing [02:04] JaneW: do you have a meeting agenda, that you'll be using today? [02:04] i'm not terribly familiar with edubuntu, or it's meetings [02:04] Hobbsee: we have a standard (very loose) format [02:05] start with tech discussion [02:05] move to documentation [02:05] then artowrk [02:05] artwork even [02:05] ok, cool, thanks [02:05] then community and other === Hobbsee isnt even noticing the spelling errors :P [02:05] Hobbsee, note the use of the term "very loose" [02:05] https://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuMeetingRecords#head-5e7f70a61c134d6b4d43164288d5c686da158155 [02:05] hehe === freeflying-ibook [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.36] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [02:05] Hobbsee, ^^ [02:05] thanks very much ogra [02:06] Hobbsee: sorry my typing is bad :( [02:06] hi freeflying-ibook [02:06] man! i like the red of the logo and background! *considers a red kubuntu* [02:06] ok let's hit it [02:06] JaneW: hi [02:06] so its five minutes after, lets start [02:06] Hobbsee: yeah our graphics ROCK [02:06] they do! [02:06] Hobbsee, feel free to make kedubuntu :) [02:07] hehe [02:07] ogra: where do we stand on the dev side? [02:07] ogra, lol [02:07] not much happened edubuntu wise on my desk last week ... [02:07] (i was mostly busy with ubuntu bugs) [02:08] i prepared a patch to the installer part of ltsp though, that should let us get rid of the post install editing of the dhcp config [02:08] i also worked on a better progress reporting of the ltsp part in the installer === jsgotangco [n=jsg@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [02:08] additionally i looked over highvoltages edubuntu getting started doc, which i'd like to ship by default in edubuntu-docs [02:09] thats all i did on a tech side ... [02:09] Does Edubuntu have many bugs? [02:09] over and above the ubuntu ones? [02:09] a hand full [02:09] (~5) :) [02:09] sounds good [02:09] :) [02:09] how serious are they? [02:10] not very [02:10] and think they will get fixed before the release? [02:10] and mostly they turn out as ubuntu bugs [02:10] what is with the alt +f7 bug? [02:10] do you think this extra QA time is helping ? In general, and for edubuntu specifically? [02:10] i havent got a bug about that yet [02:10] not really [02:11] edubuntu would be ready so far if we wanted it [02:11] ogra, because we dont know where the bug is in xorg or ltsp or something else [02:11] things seem much more relaxed and less panicked than last time [02:11] but indeed we build from ubuntu packages that have open bugs [02:11] see the mail from jeff elkner [02:11] which is nice, but I hope we don't lose momentum and the excitement === mhz [n=mhz_chil@moinmoin/fan/mhz] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [02:11] hi mhz [02:11] juliux, i refuse to read *any* mail from jeff that contains the word bug [02:11] hi mhz [02:11] ogra, ok [02:12] hi there! sorry i am late (agan) [02:12] ogra, i will open a bug against edubuntu [02:12] i told him 100 ties to please file them in LP [02:12] ogra, he actually filed a bug report finally Ollie... [02:12] juliux: thank-you [02:12] flint, against what ? [02:12] ogra, but if you dont know against which package there is a problem [02:12] unfortunately jelkner is not a good bug filer [02:12] i dont see any bugreport from him [02:12] but he is a useful tester [02:12] you dont need to know what specific package is to file in rosaetta [02:13] so if anyone can help to file the bugs he finds that would be very helpful [02:13] you can put it blank [02:13] I believe he told me against edubuntu... I will backtrack and verify based upon this. [02:13] ogra: agreed? ^ [02:13] juliux, if in doubt, file it against edubuntu-meta and i'll push it to the right package [02:13] ogra, ok [02:13] a triage team will then direct it accordingly [02:13] 99% of the bugs are ubuntu bugs anyway [02:13] yes as long as a bug is filed ogra can do something with it, please don;t expect ogra to file all the bugs himself === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [02:14] hi [02:14] sorry i'm late [02:14] hi spacey [02:14] can anyone specify the exact bug # [02:14] JaneW, i dont care about filing them myself as long as i dont have to read a several pages big email to find one line at the end that tells me about the bug [02:14] ogra: fair enough [02:15] ok, so much from the tech side .... [02:15] i have something else ... [02:15] ok so either file a big or send a concise and clear description of it to ogra (pref with steps to reproduce?) [02:15] ogra: yes? [02:15] yep [02:15] big=bug [02:15] malone is always preferred indeed [02:15] https://launchpad.net/people/edubuntu-members [02:15] ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ [02:15] yes bug to be filed in MALONE [02:16] oops sorry [02:16] we have CC powers !!! [02:16] do that again, I won;t mess it up ;P [02:16] JaneW: is there a EdubuntuHowToFileABug (mini instructions) [02:16] (or something like that) [02:16] mhz, there is HelpingWithBugs that should totally suffice [02:16] ogra, nice touch the arrows... [02:16] mhz: good point but we should pull it from ubuntu, as it's no different [02:17] ogra: was that decides at last nights CC? [02:17] decided [02:17] ogra: okis, JaneW, then agree if I make that page and link it to HelpingWithBugs? [02:17] so we have a launchpad team now that enables us to approve members like the CC does [02:17] mhz: perfect thanks ! :) [02:17] ogra, I swear a mighty oath that elkner said he "maloned" the bug he found. I will get to the bottom of this. I have emailed him just now. [02:17] additionally all members of that team will have @edubuntu.org mailadresses [02:17] ogra: do we have a clear process for that? [02:17] w00t! [02:18] i think the usual CC process applies here [02:18] heh another spam bait forwarder lol [02:18] so you need to be a member already or comply to the rules to become a member to join that team [02:19] cool [02:19] ogra, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/edubuntu-meta/+bug/39294 i hope my english isnt to bad [02:19] Malone bug 39294 in edubuntu-meta "No ldm login on the thinclient" [Normal,Unconfirmed] [02:19] good marketing/encouraging people feature [02:19] so we'll take the big crowd of edubuntu member applicants from the CC in the future :P [02:19] juliux, thanks ! [02:19] juliux: thanks [02:20] games of chance are fun! :) [02:20] juliux: your english is not so buggy :D [02:20] (sorry I was channeling flint for a second) [02:20] ok artwork [02:20] the question with that team is, how do we want to handle it ? [02:20] are we any nearer to anything artwork wise? [02:20] we'll need meetings like the CC meeting to review and approve people [02:20] oops sorry, we still busy with the other topic [02:21] JaneW, I do pretty well, considering I am a native speaker... :^) [02:21] JaneW and i both agree that we dont want an additional meeting on our schedule [02:21] ogra: but these Edubuntu Council :D meetings could be held every 3 weeks or every 2 weeks? [02:21] possibly monthly initially [02:22] so the proposal was to have the meeting we have now on a two week schedule instead of weekly and have a ECC meeting in the new two week gap [02:22] depends on the volume of discussion [02:22] is once ever 2 weeks enough for dev meetings? [02:22] i guess monthly would be anough as well [02:22] esp in a normal dev cycle which is much faster [02:22] JaneW, while you may laugh at this discussion of empowerment, I would like to propose to the CC that they set up a certification in edubuntu... [02:23] i think in the beginnig we can start with reviewing people who want to join the team once a month additionally to that meeting without changing the schedule [02:23] LOL [02:23] flint: but let's 1st finish Ubuntu Certifiaction ;) [02:23] flint: you are kidding right? [02:23] later we can make them 2 weekly [02:23] ogra: I agree with that [02:23] flint: that's hardly needed, edubuntu is ubuntu :P [02:23] JaneW, no. mhz separate and distinct from the cannonical ubuntu certification. [02:23] so lets say every first meeting in a month we do our approval [02:24] ogra: agreed [02:24] jsgotangco, no it is very different. ask Olli [02:24] ogra: it will need to be listed clearly in an agenda [02:24] yes, we'll need an agenda like CC and TB have [02:24] ogra: +1 [02:24] ogra: so #1 will be the first week of May [02:24] yep [02:24] +1 [02:25] done, I guess [02:25] JaneW, I would propose that membership and certification be based upon contribution. This would motivate people to get things accomplished (beyond Oliver and yourself) [02:25] yup, done [02:25] ogra: cheater you only look at edubuntu-meta :P [02:25] flint: you still seem confussed about what certification means [02:25] flint, the same rules apply as they do for ubuntu members [02:25] the process is well documented [02:26] ogra: we'll need to put something on the wiki [02:26] jsgotangco, ? [02:26] yup [02:26] JaneW, cannonical certification is a commercial certificaiton. i am not confused even though I am a bitter old man. [02:26] but we only need to link to the appropriate ubuntu pages [02:26] flint: it's not an internal qualification [02:27] JaneW, the qualification would come from the edubuntu council. [02:27] and means nothing (or is not nec relevent)here in our community [02:27] the community certifies the practictioner. [02:27] flint: anyway we can discuss that further in the ECC meetings [02:27] agreed? [02:27] done [02:27] ty [02:27] ok artwork [02:27] hehehe [02:27] are we any nearer to anything artwork wise? [02:28] did anyone manage to get anything out of toxictoadz? === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [02:28] I don't think so === jsgotangco raises hand [02:28] which means we still don;t have our young/naive background [02:28] jsgotangco: yes? [02:28] JaneW: do i still get to do the Firefox page? [02:29] jsgotangco: the about edubuntu page? [02:29] or do we stick to Ubuntu page [02:29] jsgotangco, go go go ! [02:29] yes, I'd say so === nomed [n=nomed@host146-163.pool8258.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [02:29] JaneW: that's easy i could whip it up starting tommorow (holidays) [02:29] or rather any reason why not to do it? [02:29] nomed: hey! welcome! [02:29] JaneW: the Ubuntu FF homepage are now translated [02:29] I think it's def appropriate to have it [02:29] hi mhz [02:29] and we can have edubuntu spec stuff and links [02:29] welcome nomed [02:30] nomed: we are just starting to discuss about edubuntu artwork [02:30] jsgotangco: if you can do it please do [02:30] Wouldn't that break doc freeze somehow? [02:30] jsgotangco, as long as we can still use an untranslated version, all is fine [02:30] I think mhz would be happy to help with translations [02:30] Florob: not at all [02:30] Florob, edubuntu has no doc freeze [02:30] mhz? ^ [02:30] we shoot ourselves in the foot with that [02:30] JaneW: +1 [02:30] wasn;t there a technical constraint with it last time? [02:30] *we'd [02:30] didn't no you're THAT seperate from ubuntu [02:30] mhz: +10 :) [02:31] JaneW: however, afaik, 'es' is already done. Sure, I can help on edubuntu.es for firefox [02:31] Florob, we arent, but we'll use the extended time to finish up missing docs, that was claer from the beginning [02:31] mhz: yes for edubuntu.es [02:31] sorry, i have a local meeting here and will miss most of this meeting, but will catch up later [02:31] if the docteam wants to restrict itself, its allowed to do that, we wont :) [02:32] ogra, didn't know that, thanks [02:32] highvoltage: ok, quickly, did you hear from toxictoadz?? [02:32] highvoltage, local meetings are overrated [02:32] highvoltage, where is edubuntugirl? [02:32] ogra: but not attending can be a CLM [02:32] JaneW: okis, I'll follow jsgotangco lead (again) [02:32] heh [02:32] mhz: super thanks === JaneW wants the edubuntu children of the world background finished [02:33] juliux, that can wait until after release, we have some release critical things first ;) [02:33] can we use it as is if we have to? [02:33] hmpf [02:33] why not [02:33] it is a bit too bright and busy I'll admit, it would be better adjusted [02:33] edubuntugirl somebody is making this up... [02:33] unless someone wants to creat some new and wonderful designs [02:33] flint: NOT handicapped ducks though [02:34] i'd be fine with using it === JaneW too === mhz has no clue what you are talking about.... tooo many days off the team, so it seems. [02:34] its a bit small though [02:34] oic [02:34] (1024x786) === JaneW looks for link [02:34] JaneW, harsh, very harsh ( god i love that duck! \:^) === mhz loves JaneW once more ;) [02:34] but smalle pics are eating less space :) [02:34] http://art.ubuntu.com/backgrounds/edubuntu/76 [02:35] ogra: is it not resizable? [02:35] in all it;s glory http://art.ubuntu.com/images/backgrounds/Edubuntu-Children_Of_Edubuntu_1024x768.png [02:35] sure it is, but scaling up looses quality [02:36] flint: it may make him blind, but jelkner can't complain about lack of diversity there.... [02:36] toxi... is TOOO much "in your face" [02:36] having the svg and exporting it at 1600x1200 would be better === jsgotangco trolls on the wallpaper..she's to chinky eyed! [02:36] ok I'll mail the creator again, and see if I can get him to respond === mhz has troubles understanding why people do not upload "source files" (svg?) [02:36] JaneW, I kinda like the "Its A Small World After All" (IASWAA) theme of it. [02:36] jsgotangco, yes, and there is not *one* blue kid among them !! [02:36] thats an awful wallpaper === JaneW kicks jsgotangco in the shin - don't start! [02:37] spacey, thats fine for the kids theme ... we wont use it by default [02:37] spacey: get a better one then [02:37] yes please note this is not for the default install [02:37] jsgotangco, everyone is a critic. Ars Gratia Artes... [02:37] ogra: jsgotangco , heheheh [02:37] i have no creative/art talent unfortunately :P [02:37] it's for the younger look option [02:38] spacey, but you work in a school ... poke your arts teacher ;) [02:38] JaneW: so default will be...? [02:38] mhz, NN [02:38] spacey: how old are the kids there? [02:38] jsgotangco, if we are going to get critical that tree in the back is pretty phalic... :^) [02:38] NN? [02:38] spacey: are you involved with little kids or older students only? [02:38] not nominated [02:38] ogra: uh 4-16 [02:38] flint: hahaha [02:38] primary school [02:38] flint: and bushy [02:38] spacey: cool, well please can you show the pic to some of them and get some responses and feedback [02:38] with some special education [02:39] spacey, perfect ! [02:39] i.e. do they love or hate it [02:39] JaneW: sure can [02:39] we need something that appeals to 6-10 year olds [02:39] are there more pics then the happy rainbow one? [02:39] I want to take up a collection to get the white kid and the asian girl eyes... [02:39] nope, not yet [02:39] and crosses gender, culture and language borders etc [02:39] we should probably do a call on the ML [02:39] spacey: not at the moment, but you can show them our original edubuntu girl too [02:39] i have the feeling there are no artistic souls at the school we use edubuntu [02:40] JaneW: they already know that one [02:40] this is all we have so far http://art.ubuntu.com/backgrounds/edubuntu/ [02:40] JaneW, the real question is not whether it will appeal to a bunch of geeks (no offense intended :^) but if this art will appeal to teachers and students... [02:40] i like that one :) [02:40] we'd welcome more submissions though [02:40] they seem to use macs === jsgotangco hides [02:41] ok so everyone show artwork to ppl, and get responses and or submissions of better stuff [02:41] what happened to consigned artwork? [02:41] argh art.ubuntu.com doesn't work with lunchpad logins? [02:41] we don;t want more articles saying 'nice distro, sucky wall paper' [02:41] spacey: aye, we're slimy bastards [02:42] alhtough to be honest I think edubuntu girl is the strongest part of our identity now, so I stand by that decision still! [02:42] we will have a professionally designed wallpaper for the default install [02:42] we haven;t seen it yet [02:42] i like edubuntu girl wallpaper [02:42] JaneW: try the current ubuntu wallpaper heh [02:43] jsgotangco: that one sucks imo :) [02:43] it has a nice jigsaw puzzle [02:43] jsgotangco: I haven't seen it... [02:43] JaneW, I am so glad that art is not my department... [02:43] spacey: you'll have to thank dholbach's brother for that :) === JaneW will put my son's latest drawing up. I asked him to draw a picture of his holiday [02:44] and he produced a pencil drawing of him vomiting spectacularly. Clearly that's his current strongest memeory ;) [02:44] JaneW, where send a url. [02:44] :> [02:44] fun [02:44] can we get it as a wallpaper ? [02:44] i approve fully of your son then [02:45]