[12:00] <[bulio_II] > Would Ubuntu be good for a computer with 667Mhz cpu and 128MB ram?
[12:00] <Rudemeister> mwe: using gcc-3.4
[12:00] <eggzeck> ConfidentiaL, I think that would be offtopic, so maybe try #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:00] <chris_> hey all
[12:00] <gepatino> Apostle^: and if you put a data cd.. can you read it?
[12:00] <duelboot> ogami1972, tried the wiki?
[12:00] <chris_> i decided i wanted to install wine
[12:00] <mwe> [bulio_II] : probably ok. it's not much ram though
[12:00] <Surak> Hello.
[12:00] <Apostle^> gepatino: yep
[12:00] <chris_> and i searched synaptic
[12:00] <chris_> and it comes up with a few things
[12:00] <chris_> such as xwine
[12:00] <mwe> [bulio_II] : maybe use something like fluxbox instead of gnome
[12:00] <gepatino> Apostle^: is it a strange cd drive, i mean pcmcia, scsi, etc
[12:00] <Surak> A simple question: can a hostname have the minus "-" character on its name?
[12:01] <chris_> which is the gui for wine emulator
[12:01] <Ghostar> i cant start xserver anymore. The problem is my mouse. I tried ps/2 and usb, but i get no input. i tried cat /dev/input/mice . Then i get "no such file or directory". can someobody help me?
[12:01] <Apostle^> gepatino: i dont' think so .. it's a dvd+rw
[12:01] <ogami1972> yeah, i've tried the wiki, and i have a bookmark folder of 13-15 posts; i've gone down the list and tried it all, but nothing
[12:01] <mwe> Rudemeister: I don't know why it does that then
[12:01] <duelboot> ogami1972, hold on I'll send you a link for something that worked on breezy...no promises for dapper
[12:01] <ConfidentiaL> eggzeck: or in a private chat or something?
[12:01] <chris_> and libwine and libwine-dev
[12:01] <ogami1972> k
[12:01] <ogami1972> thx
[12:01] <Rudemeister> hmm
[12:01] <chris_> should choose to install xwine?
[12:01] <Surak> I ask this so I can send a patch for espresso...  can a hostname have the minus "-" character on its name?
[12:01] <chris_> and then if i do
[12:01] <eggzeck> ConfidentiaL, okay
[12:01] <Aeos> i used synaptic to install wine but it doesnt seem to be installed. of course, I just might not know how to find it
[12:01] <chris_> how to i use it?
[12:01] <Rudemeister> mwe: tnx anyway
[12:01] <chris_> ^same question
[12:01] <chris_> well kinda
[12:01] <chris_> lol
[12:01] <mwe> Aeos: open a terminal and type wine notepad.exe
[12:02] <Apostle^> gepatino: any ideas
[12:02] <blindx> I'm real tired of my brothers closing my irc :@
[12:02] <Aeos> hmm guess it is not installed
[12:02] <mwe> Rudemeister: it shouldn't segfault even if you use the wrong compiler. just possibly produce errors
[12:02] <majd> Hey, i'm trying to install mysql 4.1....however, i installed the mysql server, client and common packages for version 4.1 I also installed php5mysql package....then i uncommented the mysql.so line in php.ini. Now in my phpinfo.php file, i get the mysql section, but it comes up as 4.0.X
[12:02] <[bulio_II] > Would Ubuntu be good for a computer with 667Mhz cpu and 128MB ram?
[12:02] <Ghostar> where is my mouse input when i dont find it at /dev/input/mice  ??
[12:02] <majd> I need 4.1 so i can use mysql improved
[12:02] <[bulio_II] > Running gnome as a family PC
[12:02] <mwe> [bulio_II] : I answered that
[12:03] <Apostle^> [bulio_II] : yes
[12:03] <[bulio_II] > So Its not enough?
[12:03] <gepatino> Apostle^: sorry... no more ideas... maybe its not connected to the sound card???
[12:03] <Apostle^> [bulio_II] : id run xfce on it
[12:03] <mwe> [bulio_II] : yes but a little tight
[12:03] <yuion> mwe, there?
[12:03] <ogami1972> bulio- am running full install on a 667 w/ 393 mb- runs great ( but i am used to legacy machines- others might find it a bit slow)
[12:03] <mwe> yuion: right here ...
[12:03] <ogami1972> go with xubuntu
[12:03] <[bulio_II] > xfce wouldn't have a problem?
[12:03] <Apostle^> gepatino: how do i check that, i just want to rip audio from it, but sound-juicer says i dont have the plugin, how do i get the plugin
[12:03] <mwe> [bulio_II] : I'd use fluxbox for that kind of pc
[12:03] <Apostle^> [bulio_II] : shouldn't
[12:03] <[bulio_II] > ogami1972: my debian machine has 550Mhz cpu and 380MB ram
[12:03] <yuion> mwe, why its a little lock in the corner of a map?
[12:03] <blindx> fluxbox ftw \m/
[12:03] <majd> when i type in sudo mysql in the terminal, i get Your MySQL connection id is 16 to server version: 4.1.12-Debian_1ubuntu3.1-log
[12:03] <ogami1972> then you should be pleased
[12:03] <blindx> soooo my wifi won't work. so i asked someone what to do, and they said install nm-applet. I tried to, and it gave me no suitable c compiler. so i installed build-essential..
[12:04] <mwe> yuion: huh?
[12:04] <yuion> mwe, oops,map in english is a diffrent thing sory
[12:04] <blindx> but nm-applet STILL won't install.
[12:04] <blindx> won't comile, i should say
[12:04] <ogami1972> blindx- have you done "iwconfig" from term?
[12:04] <benplaut> what's the preferred starter guide ATM?
[12:04] <gepatino> Apostle^: do you have another OS installed? in that case, can you here music from that OS in that drive?
[12:04] <blindx> i haven't.. i did config'd from gui
[12:04] <[bulio_II] > so I should use Xfce4?
[12:04] <yuion> mwe, what you call a place there you can place some files
[12:04] <Apostle^> gepatino: no i don't
[12:04] <AAA> a directory?
[12:04] <Apostle^> gepatino: i think im justm issing a plugin
[12:05] <mwe> majd: sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start to start the mysql server
[12:05] <mwe> yuion: a directory or folder?
[12:05] <ogami1972> i forget what i installed- oh yeah- "wpromad" or something- try this:
[12:05] <majd> mwe, i got a message that it's already running
[12:05] <majd> i know it's working....
[12:05] <chris_> how would i go about installing wine?
[12:05] <chris_> ok i went to synaptic
[12:05] <yuion> mwe, folder thanks..but actully i fix on my own:D
[12:05] <ogami1972> in term- "iwconfig" folowed by "ifup eth0"
[12:05] <gepatino> Apostle^: if cant hear music in any program, maybe you need to plug the cd drive to the sound card
[12:05] <chris_> and downloaded xwine and all the components needed for it
[12:05] <eggzeck> ConfidentiaL, I think you might have to register to message me back
[12:06] <chris_> and when i goto the terminal
[12:06] <Apostle^> gepatino: it is ..
[12:06] <chris_> and type xwine
[12:06] <mwe> majd: you shouldn't run mysql with sudo. just myql -u root
[12:06] <chris_> it says i need to install xwine
[12:06] <Aeos> ok so with using wine I simply download the binary and run it by using wine example.exe
[12:06] <ConfidentiaL> eggzeck: :S how?
[12:06] <Apostle^> gepatino: it isn't a sound-issue i cant find the files on the cd to play them
[12:06] <majd> mwe, it seems to be working :(
[12:07] <gepatino> Apostle^: music cds doesnt have files
[12:07] <duelboot> ogami1972, try this for the flash issue:  sudo ln -fs /usr/lib/libesd.so.0 /usr/lib/libesd.so.1
[12:07] <chris_> i tried apt-get install xwine
[12:07] <mwe> majd: well then it's good. I mean it seams to be working
[12:07] <Apostle^> gepatino: how do i play a cd from say.. the command line
[12:07] <chris_> and it said that there were 13 permissions denied and i couldnt loc soemthing
[12:07] <ConfidentiaL> eggzeck: nvm registering, in registering now...
[12:07] <majd> mwe, yeah but php seems to pickup the wrong version
[12:07] <ogami1972> that was the last solution i tried- i didn't receive errors, but it didn't fix it either
[12:07] <mwe> majd: odd
[12:07] <majd> yeah
[12:08] <duelboot> ogami1972, again this was for breezy...here's another link:  http://pykeylogger.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Ubuntu:Chronicles#Sound.2C_Firefox.2C_and_Flash   may want to try first
[12:08] <mwe> majd: did you follow !lamp ?
[12:08] <gepatino> Apostle^: from command line... i dont know... try with cdplayer in applications/sound&video
[12:08] <mwe> !tell majd about lamp
[12:08] <majd> mwe, not really
[12:08] <majd> extension=mysql.so
[12:08] <majd> is that the right line to put in php.ini?
[12:08] <mwe> majd: try going over that
[12:08] <chris_> anyone know how to install wine once u downloaded the package from synaptic?
[12:09] <mwe> majd: yeah. I think it's all configured right by default. please read the wiki and see if you missed something
[12:09] <majd> ok
[12:09] <Apostle^> gepatino: i think im just missing a plugin or a library
[12:09] <gepatino> chris_: it should be already installed
[12:09] <blindx> Can anyone help me set up my WiFi
[12:09] <graveson> what is the directory for the C header files ?
[12:10] <mwe> !tell blindx about wifi
[12:10] <gepatino> Apostle^: sorry... thats all i know... anyone could help Apostle^??
[12:10] <blindx> I already have that page
[12:10] <chris_> gepatino, i tried to run it in the terminal with "xwine" it said wine wasnt installed
[12:10] <blindx> thanks, though
[12:10] <ogami1972> thx duelboot
[12:10] <mwe> blindx: then what's the problem, more specifically?
[12:10] <gepatino> chris_: because you've installed 'wine' not 'xwine'
[12:10] <Apostle^> can anyoen tell me what i need to do to enable audio-cd support
[12:10] <duelboot> did it work ogami1972 ?
[12:10] <Apostle^> i have w32 codecs..
[12:11] <chris_> gepatino, well it didnt say that xwine wasnt installed it said wine wasnt
[12:11] <blindx> mwe: I'm not exactly sure. It activates, but I'm not connected to the net.
[12:11] <mwe> blindx: can you ping your router?
[12:11] <blindx> mwe: the live CD worked, that's WHY i installed ubuntu
[12:11] <chris_> gepatino, and if i try just running "wine" it says its not a command
[12:11] <blindx> I don't know, i didn't try.
[12:11] <mwe> blindx: try
[12:11] <blindx> the ping command is just ping, correct?
[12:11] <gepatino> chris_: when you select a package in synaptic (and accept the installation) its downloaded and installed
[12:11] <mwe> blindx: right
[12:12] <chris_> not according to this
[12:12] <edwin> How do reconfigure xserver it has screwed up my screen resolution
[12:12] <gepatino> chris_: check again if it's installed from synaptic
[12:12] <chris_> ok
[12:12] <aimaz> edwards, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-sorg
[12:12] <jenda> I have trouble with Live CDs. Two that I have just freeze as soon as they say "press enter for default live boot" or something to that effect. Anything you could think of?
[12:12] <mwe> blindx: if it worked on the live cd it's possible to get it to work on the installed system as well
[12:12] <aimaz> edwin, ^^
[12:12] <aimaz> erk
[12:12] <aimaz> edwin, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:12] <Bambino> I am trying to install a thing for my ubuntu. Its 32bit. its a deb file. now can i compile the source code? would that work?
[12:12] <edwin> Thank you
[12:13] <gepatino> Bambino: if its a deb file, try dpkg -i file.deb
[12:13] <ogami1972> yeah, i tried that one yesterday... in all the posts, eventually it works, but there is always a final post that sez "didn't work in dapper"
[12:13] <ogami1972> :(
[12:13] <Bambino> gepatino, i did, its failed because its for 32bit system
[12:13] <chris_>  it says its installed
[12:13] <blindx> i did ping 192.168.1.1 and got "192.168.1.102 Destination Host Unreachable"
[12:13] <Barbelos> Any idea why logging into xfce just gives me the background, no panels or anything?
[12:13] <graveson> has anyone seen this error when installing vmware with ubuntu -> The directory of kernel headers (version 2.6.12-10-686) does not match your
[12:13] <graveson> running kernel (version 2.6.12-10-686-smp).
[12:14] <chris_> im gonna reinstall it
[12:14] <duelboot> !tell duelboot to go to sleep!
[12:14] <gepatino> Bambino: and you have a 64bit sys?
[12:14] <mwe> blindx: huh?
[12:14] <Bambino> gepatino, Yes
[12:14] <blindx> yeah
[12:14] <blindx> makes no sense.
[12:14] <edwin> If i have intel intergrated graphics which xserver driver should I select?
[12:14] <void^> blindx: well, is .102 your default gateway?
[12:14] <gepatino> Bambino: sorry, no experience on 64 bits sys...
[12:15] <mwe> blindx: well anyway what's your interface name? ifconfig -a will show if you dont know
[12:15] <mwe> void^: notice he pings a different ip
[12:15] <aimaz> Bambino, is there no 64-bit package available?
[12:15] <blindx> I don't have a default gateway
[12:15] <blindx> uh RT2550
[12:15] <chris_> gepatino: ok i reinstalled it
[12:15] <mwe> void^: notice he pings a different ip
[12:15] <Bambino> aimaz, it does only say source code and binary
[12:15] <mwe> blindx: well anyway what's your interface name? ifconfig -a will show if you dont know
[12:15] <edwin> Anyone know what xserver driver i should use for Intel intergrated chips?
[12:15] <mwe> void^: sorry
[12:15] <bitwiseshiftleft> question: is there a way to work around no __NR_sigaction in the ubuntu headers, when, say, compiling wine?
[12:15] <mwe> edwin: what integrated chip?
[12:16] <gepatino> chris_: now try 'wine' in a console
[12:16] <blindx> ra0
[12:16] <aimaz> Bambino, try the source code then, i may be able to help you with compilation
[12:16] <mwe> blindx: ra0 ?
[12:16] <edwin> Intel something i just reinstalled Ubuntu it was working fine this morning
[12:16] <Bambino> aimaz, Well i tried except it gave me some weird error :P
[12:16] <blindx> yes.
[12:16] <Aeos> where do I put programs so that wine can use them?
[12:16] <aimaz> Bambino, what was the weird error?
[12:16] <Rudemeister> mwe: I now used the default .config and make seems to be still runnin'.. fingers x'd
[12:16] <chris_> this is the error im getting
[12:16] <mwe> blindx: does it show with iwconfig?
[12:16] <chris_> chris@ubuntu:~$ xwine
[12:16] <chris_> error: wine doesn't work, you have to install it...
[12:16] <jxp> Hey, guys, tell me your joking right, I just installed ubuntu and I cant play mp3 's ?!
[12:16] <blindx> yes it does.
[12:16] <jxp> What do I have to install.
[12:16] <Bambino> aimaz, checking for KDE... configure: error:
[12:16] <Bambino>  in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.
[12:16] <Bambino> sorsis, check this please and use another prefix!
[12:16] <duelboot> okay jxp we're joking
[12:17] <mwe> Rudemeister: what did you do before that?
[12:17] <duelboot> !w32codecs
[12:17] <ubotu> w32codecs is, like, totally, a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[12:17] <aimaz> Bambino, do apt-cache search kde dev
[12:17] <duelboot> jxp ^^^
[12:17] <Rudemeister> mwe: I altered some settings in the .config
[12:17] <gepatino> chris_: what happens if you run wine, without the first x
[12:17] <mwe> blindx: then try sudo dhclient ra0 and see if you get an ip
[12:17] <Rudemeister> mwe: as in, customized kernel..
[12:17] <edwin> should i use the Kernal framebuffer device interface?
[12:17] <duelboot> !tell jpx about w32codecs
[12:17] <Bambino> aimaz, Loads :P
[12:17] <blindx> ok gimme a sec.
[12:17] <aimaz> Bambino, there should be something like kde-dev or similar, install that then try the compile again
[12:17] <chris_> chris@ubuntu:~$ wine
[12:17] <chris_> bash: wine: command not found
[12:17] <duelboot> jpx, see pm from ubotu
[12:17] <mwe> Rudemeister: you should always use make menuconfig or make config, not edit the .config by hand
[12:18] <Bambino> aimaz, kdevelop3 - An IDE for Unix/X11 - development version
[12:18] <Bambino>   thats something i could use?
[12:18] <gepatino> chris_: well... thats weird... dont know what to say...
[12:18] <aimaz> Bambino, no
[12:18] <jxp> i didnt get one
[12:18] <Rudemeister> mwe: I ment, I altered .config with make menuconfig
[12:18] <chris_> damnit
[12:18] <Barbelos> jxp: Install all the libmad stuff for one thing. There's a guide on the homepage somewhere. Just google for 'ubuntu' and 'nonfree'
[12:18] <chris_> this sucks
[12:18] <aimaz> Bambino, hang on i'll look for you, what are you trying to install btw?
[12:18] <mwe> Rudemeister: ok. that's good then
[12:18] <chris_> i wanna run some win apps
[12:18] <gepatino> chris_: try dpkg -l | grep wine
[12:18] <gepatino> chris_: ... your language...
[12:19] <mwe> chris_: wine notepad.exe after installing wine
[12:19] <mwe> chris_: be aware that only a tiny fraction of all windows programs actually work in wine though
[12:19] <chris_> i know
[12:19] <Bambino> aimaz, I am trying to make so that I get my login screen diffrently so i can add new login screens that is. it says i need a kdmtheme app. Now i went to the site and i saw "source code" and debian. so i went to debian and there i could choose binary or source. I chose binary. in binary i could choose a package.gz or a .deb file. I was suggested the deb file. but that is only for 32bit =(
[12:19] <gepatino> chris_: what's the output of dpkg -l | grep wine
[12:20] <mwe> chris_: sudo apt-get install wine
[12:20] <chris_> chris@ubuntu:~$ dpkg -l | grep wine
[12:20] <chris_> ii  xwine                                      1.0.1-1   graphical user interface for the WINE emulat
[12:20] <edwin> When im configuring Xserver i get this window "Select the X.Org server modules that should be loaded by default? Which one should i choose?
[12:20] <mwe> chris_: sudo apt-get install wine
[12:20] <duelboot> ogami1972, any luck?
[12:20] <aimaz> Bambino, Package.gz is something else entirely, ignore that
[12:20] <chris_> chris@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install wine
[12:20] <chris_> Password:
[12:20] <chris_> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[12:20] <chris_> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[12:20] <mwe> chris_: close synaptic
[12:21] <aimaz> Bambino, try installing kdebase-dev, then recompiling
[12:21] <chris_> k
[12:21] <Bambino> aimaz, Ok. well i downloaded the source code. and tried to complie it and i got that error.
[12:21] <gepatino> chris_: only that... I have also libwine, wine-utils and winestuptk ... try installing them using 'sudo apt-get install ....'
[12:21] <blindx> mwe: I got "DHCPDISCOVER on ra0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 7"
[12:21] <chris_> chris@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install wine
[12:21] <chris_> Reading package lists... Done
[12:21] <chris_> Building dependency tree... Done
[12:21] <chris_> Package wine is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[12:21] <chris_> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[12:21] <chris_> is only available from another source
[12:21] <chris_> E: Package wine has no installation candidate
[12:22] <blindx> as well as intervals 12, 11, 18, 7, 6
[12:22] <mwe> chris_: don't paste in here
[12:22] <mwe> blindx: but it hangs?
[12:22] <blindx> and it finished with "no DHCPOFFERS received
[12:22] <blindx> "
[12:22] <chris_> wait isnt there a place u can paste into?
[12:22] <mwe> bad
[12:22] <blindx> tried pinging again, tried going to google.
[12:22] <mwe> chris_: yes. it's pastebin.com. pasting here will get you kicked
[12:23] <ogami1972> blindx-um, i may have missed it, but ubuntu are you running?
[12:23] <chris_> ok thx for tellin me
[12:23] <gepatino> chris_: it seems you need to enable other repositories, maybe universe
[12:23] <chris_> i already did
[12:23] <mwe> blindx: what about iwlist ra0 scan, does your ap show?
[12:23] <inhale_16> can i ask some questions pls? coz i'm looking forward to switch to ubuntu linux
[12:23] <chris_> i did the universe multiverse thing
[12:23] <ogami1972> go ahead inhale
[12:23] <blindx> ogami: im not sure i understand the question
[12:23] <gepatino> chris_: and have you done 'sudo apt-get update'?
[12:23] <blindx> mwe: lemme check brb
[12:24] <chris_> ummm
[12:24] <ogami1972> blindx: breezy or dapper?
[12:24] <chris_> idk
[12:24] <duelboot> chris_, also see:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[12:24] <blindx> I'm not sure? :\
[12:24] <inhale_16> with the ubuntu linux...can u just install normal games and play? and is it difficult to find programs for linux ?
[12:24] <gepatino> chris_: do it... so apt gets the list of packages
[12:24] <ogami1972> :)
[12:24] <mwe> blindx: don't you know your ap name?
[12:24] <chris_> its already upgraded
[12:24] <chris_> nothing was changed
[12:24] <gnomefreak> blindx: lsb_release -a   type that in terminal tell us what it tells you
[12:24] <ogami1972> go System>About Ubuntu
[12:24] <blindx> breezy
[12:24] <sfar> anyone know how to change the "bootsplash" (i think its called that) :)
[12:25] <blindx> mwe: i know my ap name
[12:25] <gnomefreak> sfar: the one with the mod loading ?
[12:25] <blindx> i put it in when i set up ra0 :\
[12:25] <yuion> mwe, there?
[12:25] <gepatino> chris_: you dont get any errors while doing apt-get update?
[12:25] <aimaz> Bambino, are you in breezy?
[12:25] <chris_> nope
[12:25] <mwe> blindx: so why don't you know if iwlist ra0 scan shows it?
[12:25] <ogami1972> sfar: change in Sytem>Admin>Login Window
[12:25] <Bambino> aimaz, Yes that is correct
[12:25] <blindx> because i haven't iwlist'd yet. give me a sec :P
[12:25] <yuion> mwe, can you tell me what bittorent client i should use?
[12:25] <gnomefreak> sfar: if you mean the one that loads the mod you wont find that in menu
[12:26] <sfar> gnomefreak: yes, the one before the login thingy
[12:26] <graveson> is anyone aware of any lightscribe software for linux ?
[12:26] <gepatino> chris_: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:26] <inhale_16> can some1 answer me pls ?
[12:26] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell sfar about usplash
[12:26] <chris_> ummm
[12:26] <mwe> yuion: bittorent
[12:26] <gepatino> inhale_16: just ask
[12:26] <gnomefreak> sfar: your pm its a beast btw
[12:26] <ogami1972> oh...
[12:26] <sfar> ah, usplash.. thanks
[12:26] <inhale_16> with the ubuntu linux...can u just install normal games and play? and is it difficult to find programs for linux ?
[12:26] <chris_> well i dont even know how to use pastebin
[12:26] <yuion> mwe, apt-get ??
[12:26] <blindx> mwe: it gives me an ap name. but not _MY_ ap name
[12:26] <Pavix> Anyone have any idea about why firefox isnt recognizing java being installed
[12:27] <gepatino> chris_: enter http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and you'll find the way... its not dificult
[12:27] <mwe> yuion: sudo apt-get install  bittorrent-gui
[12:27] <ogami1972> no, inhale, programs aren't always "just install", but on the other hand, yes, they are easy to find
[12:27] <mwe> blindx: it doesn't just scroll off the screen?
[12:27] <hcatlin> inhale_16: it is not super easy to play the "PC" games you buy at the store on linux. However, as a gamer, I don't mind booting over to windows when I want to play a game... That being said, do a google search for WineX to play games on Linux.
[12:27] <MeTa[OFF] > good night all
[12:27] <chris_> ok
[12:27] <ogami1972> 'normal' games. afaik, often require a third party, like cedega
[12:27] <chris_> and now what file did u want?
[12:27] <yuion> mwe, thansk
[12:27] <inhale_16> i had installed the ubuntu linux on another pc, but couldnt manage to set up an internet connection
[12:28] <blindx> mwe: scroll off the screen?
[12:28] <mwe> inhale_16: what's a normal game?
[12:28] <inhale_16> i mean, a game based for windows os
[12:28] <gepatino> chris_: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:28] <mwe> inhale_16: you can't just play windows games if that's what you mean. some might work with wine but far from all
[12:28] <inhale_16> like for example, half life 2 etc
[12:29] <mwe> inhale_16: it's a paing to get hl2 to work in linux
[12:29] <inhale_16> hmm ic
[12:29] <blindx> Dammit, I have to run to class.
[12:29] <inhale_16> well tbh, i prefer the linux as gui rather than windows
[12:29] <blindx> I'll be back around 10ish.
[12:29] <Apostle^> how do i get nautilus to show the left bar with locations again ?
[12:29] <mwe> inhale_16: most people make a dualboot setup and keep windows for favorite none linux games
[12:29] <Bambino> aimaz, LOL my system seems to be realllllyyy weir.. This is after i removed my KDE folder and updated ubuntu to kubuntu desktop.
[12:29] <inhale_16> but windows is much more common
[12:29] <Bambino> aimaz, apt-cache search kde dev
[12:29] <ogami1972> stay up blindx- you'll figure it out!
[12:29] <yuion> mwe, that client banned to:(
[12:29] <Bambino> aimaz, opps , wrong i get this : checking tcl build dir... configure: error: Unable to find Tcl directory or Tcl package is not tcl-dev
[12:30] <chris_> there
[12:30] <sirblue> inhale_16: you could check out transgaming, they feature a website with database for games and emulation issues
[12:30] <jenesuispasbavar> Help. I can't switch to root in the Terminal: "moi@Tails:~$ sudo -s -H
[12:30] <jenesuispasbavar>           sudo: unable to lookup Tails via gethostbyname()
[12:30] <jenesuispasbavar> "
[12:30] <aimaz> Bambino, kdmtheme will be available in dapper, but in breezy it might be easier if you set the KDM theme by hand http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=34131 should point you in the right direction
[12:30] <gepatino> chris_: there what?
[12:30] <chris_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12054
[12:30] <mwe> blindx: if I use iwlist I get so many aps my own just so far up I can't see it in the terminal unless I iwlist wlan0 scan|less
[12:30] <gepatino> chris_: ok.. i see
[12:31] <ogami1972> i have a dual boot for music production, and as a saftey net- but for daily tasks, actual recording, etc- windows can't hold a candle and feels primitive after a while on l.inux
[12:31] <yuion> mwe, how to start your program?
[12:31] <Bambino> aimaz, Thanks.. any idea about the tlc error
[12:31] <gepatino> chris_: well.. it looks ok... i dont know how to help you... everything you said you've done is ok... it should be working
[12:32] <chris_> grrr
[12:32] <gepatino> maybe anynone else could hel chris_? i going home now... its late (here in argentina) to be at work
[12:32] <simonpca> ++
[12:32] <mwe> yuion: maybe you want gnome-btdownload or ktorrent
[12:33] <chris_> im gonna get somthing else
[12:33] <roostishaw> is there any risk running irc? i though i read somewhere that you should make an account just for irc...
[12:33] <chris_> ill get on if i have troubles
[12:33] <chris_> bye all
[12:33] <gepatino> bye
[12:33] <roostishaw> anyone?
[12:34] <mwe> roostishaw: if you run it as normal user it's pretty safe
[12:34] <_jason> jenesuispasbavar: paste the first lines of /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts please
[12:34] <aimaz> Bambino, for that you need tcl headers which are in tcl8.?-dev where ? is 2,3 or 4 which one kdmtheme needs i don't know, you could install all three, but you can see why i say doing it by hand may be easier
[12:34] <roostishaw> mwe, ok thats what i meant... but why is there any risk at all.
[12:34] <roostishaw> mwe, ?
[12:34] <Bambino> aimaz, Yes i understand and i will do as you told me, except i am trying to install latest aMSN.. and its not working.so i installed them and i keep getting errors! ./configure: line 3162: /usr/lib/tkConfig.sh: No such file or directory
[12:35] <lukic> Hey ubuntu fans!
[12:35] <mwe> roostishaw: I can't think of any risks except auto accepting crappy dcc sends
[12:35] <master_> help with dual booting breezy and gentoo, they sent me here
[12:36] <roostishaw> can someone tell me what a dcc send is?
[12:36] <_jason> oh boy
[12:36] <_jason> no one say d.c.c. s.e.n.d!
[12:36] <aimaz> Bambino, that should be in one of the tk dev packages
[12:36] <cyphase> what's a good MythTV centered distro?
[12:36] <_jason> !ops
[12:36] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, fabbione, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee
[12:36] <nalioth> _jason: ?
[12:36] <IdleOne> lmao
[12:36] <_jason> nalioth: ubugtu just got mwe and roostishaw for innocent d.c.c. send
[12:37] <roostishaw> why did ubugtu boot me?!
[12:37] <sfar> _jason: its DCC SEND <insert 14 or more chars here>
[12:37] <_jason> ...
[12:37] <Seveas> sigh
[12:37] <IdleOne> roostishaw, check www.irghelp.org for info on all irc commands and protocols
[12:37] <yuion> witch torrent client is best?
[12:37] <Seveas> people should know it by now
[12:37] <scorchsaber> :D
[12:37] <scorchsaber> that was extremely funny
[12:37] <IdleOne> www.irchelp.org
[12:38] <roostishaw> ?
[12:38] <IdleOne> you asked about d.c.c
[12:38] <Seveas> roostishaw, there are a few common IRC exploits with that string
[12:38] <nalioth> roostishaw: do NOT use d.c.c. s.e.n.* in here
[12:38] <Seveas> that's why ubotu kickbans
[12:38] <sfar> wee i am not so smart
[12:38] <roostishaw> oh, thats why i ws kicked...   got it
[12:38] <nalioth> sfar: do NOT use d.c.c. s.e.n.* in here
[12:38] <sfar> Seveas: its because the netgear bug right?
[12:38] <roostishaw> but is is like a file send or something?
[12:38] <Seveas> sfar, yup
[12:38] <Bambino> aimaz, seems weird, something really screwed mnst have happened to my system because i had all the compling things, before i removed kde for kubuntu desktop
[12:38] <IdleOne> roostishaw, yes exactly
[12:39] <roostishaw> dleone, oh
[12:39] <roostishaw> my bad
[12:39] <sfar> nalioth: yeah i got it.. i thought you were talking about not typing the *CC *END blablalbla-command only
[12:39] <Xenguy> nalioth: seriously, do you mean say it, or do it, or both? (I was not aware of this policy, I assume it's a new one?)
[12:39] <IdleOne> Xenguy, saying it cause some routers to die
[12:40] <nalioth> Xenguy: if that string shows up in this channel, you will be kickbanned by a bot
[12:40] <ompaul> and we normally not pay any attention to it
[12:40] <IdleOne> Xenguy, not to mention klined by freenode
[12:40] <scorchsaber> Hey, I'v been having trouble with my sound. It doesn't work on SDL, or ob Flash, and who knows what else. However, it works normally for other things, such as music
[12:41] <mwe> sfar: did you see how I got banned for talking about d_cc s_end ?
[12:41] <jenesuispasbavar> Umm, I can't log in as root any more: "moi@Tails:~$ sudo -s -H
[12:41] <jenesuispasbavar> sudo: unable to lookup Tails via gethostbyname()
[12:41] <jenesuispasbavar> moi@Tails:~$"
[12:41] <Anubis> ok
[12:41] <_jason> jenesuispasbavar: paste the first lines of /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts please
[12:41] <Anubis> can anyone help me install vmware workstation in ubuntu
[12:41] <Anubis> ?
[12:41] <sfar> mwe: yep
[12:41] <Xenguy> nalioth IdleOne OK, so don't say it, got it.  Is it OK to occasionally send a file by that method though, or is that out too now?
[12:41] <ogami1972> ok- new question re: flash
[12:42] <master_> trying again: can someone help me set up a dual boot?
[12:42] <IdleOne> Xenguy, the sending protocol is fine
[12:42] <nalioth> Xenguy: if you send a file with it, you shouldnt be posting those words in the channel, yes?
[12:42] <jenesuispasbavar> _jason: hostname: Tails, hosts: # The following lines are desirable for IPv6 capable hosts
[12:42] <IdleOne> the saying part is bad hehe
[12:42] <mwe> master_: boot the install cd. it will take care of it
[12:42] <Anubis> any help with installing vmware?
[12:43] <master_> mve: i installed ubuntu first that is ok
[12:43] <Xenguy> nalioth IdleOne yep, OK I think that is clear now (maybe a warning should be added to /topic ?) -- thanks guys
[12:43] <ogami1972> when editing /etc/mozilla-firefox/mozilla-firefoxrc, i am told to change it to "none" or "arts"- one post sez he changed it to "artsdsp"- I use alsa, not esd or arts- would changing to "alsa" be ok?
[12:43] <_jason> jenesuispasbavar: insert the following into the beginning of your /etc/hosts: 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost Tails
[12:43] <master_> i cant get gentoo configured in grub
[12:43] <master_> it's installed fine
[12:43] <_jason> jenesuispasbavar: you may have to reboot in recovery mode (choice at the grub menu)
[12:43] <eugman> !info ie
[12:43] <nalioth> Xenguy: there was a warning in the /topic for several weeks
[12:43] <jenesuispasbavar> _jason: I can't do that, I don't have the necessary permissions
[12:43] <eugman> !ie
[12:43] <ubotu> hmm... ie is Ubuntu Ireland #ubuntu-ie
[12:44] <eugman> !internet explorer
[12:44] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, eugman
[12:44] <Xenguy> nalioth: OK, guess I missed it; anyway, just a suggestion
[12:44] <mwe> master_: well pretty much just make sure you specifying the correct partition in the config file
[12:44] <_jason> jenesuispasbavar: see my last comment, to edit from command line you do: nano /etc/hosts
[12:44] <jenesuispasbavar> _jason: Thanks, I'll try that.
[12:44] <yuion> PLEASE,why dont any just can tell me a god torrent client hows not is banned
[12:44] <eugman> Ubotu: thanks for nothing.
[12:44] <ubotu> gern geschehen, eugman
[12:44] <eugman> So how can I get interent explorer without crossover office?
[12:45] <ogami1972> meh- the answer is no
[12:45] <duelboot> ogami1972, one of those links I sent you discussess alsa...
[12:45] <mwe> yuion: what do you mean banned client?
[12:45] <nalioth> eugman: why would you want to?
[12:45] <yuion> mwe, yes the client u named is banned on the most of my torrent sites
[12:45] <carthik> HI I have toasted 3 DVD coasters, so what is the secret to setting the right write speed? I  am writing 8x DVDs. SO where in gnome/gconf wherever can I mention the speed to write discs at? I have tried K3b, gnomebaker and graveman.
[12:45] <eugman> Because ie is CLEARLY the superior browser.
[12:45] <eugman> heh
[12:45] <eugman> but seriously some sites need it.
[12:45] <ompaul> troll stop it
[12:45] <mwe> yuion: huh.
[12:46] <ogami1972> eugman- i had a link for IE4 for linux- let me see....
[12:46] <mwe> yuion: they must be brain dead
[12:46] <yuion> mwe, i cant download becourse is banned
[12:46] <ogami1972> duelboot- i thought you went to bed? ;)
[12:46] <m4sterguru> hi all
[12:46] <duelboot> I love pain
[12:46] <m4sterguru> anyone here with ubuntu in a hp zd8000 laptop?
[12:46] <mwe> yuion: can't you just dl the torrent file then open it with the client?
[12:47] <duelboot> ogami1972, I used something to fix it, but can't talk about here or I'll get banned
[12:47] <yuion> mwe, hwo i start the client you said?
[12:47] <nalioth> eugman: change your browser identification string
[12:47] <yuion> mwe, i wrote iek you said
[12:47] <yuion> mwe, then?
[12:47] <duelboot> almost like the dreaded D*CC S*END
[12:47] <ogami1972> oooooo!!! now i'm super interested!
[12:47] <eugman> Nalioth I don't that that's the issue.
[12:47] <m4sterguru> any one here with a zd8000 laptop?
[12:47] <duelboot> too bad...not from me ogami1972
[12:47] <ogami1972> ogami1972@gmail.com
[12:48] <ogami1972> :)
[12:48] <duelboot> me lol at Xenguy
[12:48] <yuion> mwe, please(A)
[12:48] <scorchsaber> jesus christ, you have the exact same email address as your screen name? Thats almost as bad security as me! I suppose you have the same password, too?
[12:48] <scorchsaber> eh ogami1972?
[12:48] <Xenguy> .oO(but I digress)
[12:49] <ogami1972> i'm putting on my trenchcoat and dark hat and sunglasses
[12:49] <carthik> Can I specify all these apps (dvd burning) to not use /tmp and to use someother directory as the temp directory, since my / only has 10 gigs. /home has like 200 gigs
[12:49] <duelboot> I'm duelboot@gmail.com   and no the pw is not the same :/
[12:49] <nalioth> scorchsaber: please watch your language please
[12:49] <scorchsaber> nalioth: What'd I do...
[12:49] <duelboot> scorchsaber, easy for my enemies to find me that way
[12:49] <eugman> Nalioth are you from the department of redundancy department?
[12:49] <pinkmermaid> Hey all... I'm experiencing issues with flash audo being out of sync?
[12:49] <aimaz> good night all
[12:50] <nalioth> ubotu tell scorchsaber about conduct
[12:50] <ogami1972> i am ogami1972 everywhere i go- i'm just a guy- steal from me? well, i proabbaly stole it in the first place... wanna find me? good, i've missed you! break my system? hooray! i do it everyday by myself anyway!
[12:50] <digitalhav0c> is there any way to stop xchat from showing when users leave and enter room?
[12:50] <sfar> _jason: if its possible, make the ban only affect when someone types ".cc .end ??????????????"
[12:50] <duelboot> good for you ogami1972 ...you go
[12:50] <eugman> So anyone know how I can get internet explorer without crossover office?
[12:50] <_jason> sfar: I have nothing to do with it
[12:50] <sfar> _jason: ok :D
[12:51] <nalioth> sfar: the ban affects a known exploit that is not triggered by your string
[12:51] <mwe> yuion: well for ktorrent you just type ktorrent
[12:51] <ogami1972> i like knowing that when you see me here, you know it's the same guy who tagged you in BZFlag last nite....
[12:51] <duelboot> eugman, why?
[12:51] <gilianima> is it possible to wget a web page that uses a <form> ? If yes, how to give the <form> the arguments it needs ?
[12:51] <immolo> is it possible to stop services from being loaded on boot?
[12:51] <sfar> nalioth: yes, but the exploit needs at least 14 characters after ".CC .END"
[12:51] <duelboot> ogami1972, just what is BZFlag?
[12:51] <ogami1972> try "bum" or sysv-init-rc
[12:51] <ogami1972> :|
[12:51] <yuion> mwe, i know,but when i start i its just say the port xxxx is blocked,but its not i have open it in the router
[12:52] <ogami1972> what?
[12:52] <eugman> This crazy javascript stuff or something doesn't work right with mozilla on dells rebate page. It says you need internet explor on the bottom too.
[12:52] <scorchsaber> I presume using J*s*s Chr*st as an expletive counts as not being respectful? Personally I find it more offensive when it's censored, don't you?
[12:52] <clerik> how can i changed the screen refresh rate if it is not listed in the System->Preferences->Screen Resolution menu ?
[12:52] <immolo> ogami1972, bum sucks :P
[12:52] <scorchsaber> Which is worse:
[12:52] <mwe> yuion: did you install a firewall or something or forward it to a different ip?
[12:52] <sfar> so banning on only ".cc .end" is a bit harsh..  if its possible, make the bot only to ban if its at least 14 characters in a row after .cc .end
[12:52] <scorchsaber> J*s*s Chr*st!
[12:52] <scorchsaber> or
[12:52] <ogami1972> in my darkes newbie days, it was bzflag that kep me in linux ( yes i know there is a windoze port); and yes bum is not good, but sysv-init-rc can be intimidating
[12:52] <nalioth> scorchsaber: show some respect to us, please. Any expletive is unwelcome here
[12:53] <scorchsaber> Jesus Christ!
[12:53] <yuion> mwe, i dont have install any firwwall by my slef,dunno id this stupid linux have that or something..and yes i forword my ip
[12:53] <pvd2006> I installed mplayer and new plugins for video decoding and now neither totem nor mplayer will play .avi folders. Can anyone help?
[12:53] <sirblue> jesus christ, what about it?
[12:53] <pvd2006> I re-installed*
[12:53] <pvd2006> .avi files*
[12:53] <eugman> So nobody here knows where I can get ie for wine?
[12:53] <nalioth> ubotu: tell sirblue about ircrules
[12:54] <ogami1972> now then, BZFlag is , IMHO, the best linux game around
[12:54] <mwe> yuion: is linux using the ip for your interface that the router is forwarding the port to?
[12:54] <venin> anyone been having trouble with mplayer-plugin and firefox 1.5?
[12:54] <yuion> mwe, ??
[12:54] <duelboot> ogami1972, I'm d/l bzflag now
[12:55] <yuion> mwe, if i write "ifconfig" its says i have 192.168.0.103.. and that is what i foward
[12:55] <duelboot> presume there's a server to connect to ogami1972
[12:56] <mwe> yuion: I don't understand. on my router I configured it to forward the port to my local ip that is 192.168.0.10. I don't forward the ip address. I dont know what that is or how to do it
[12:56] <edwin> Can anyone walk me through the install for an ATI card using xserver?
[12:57] <Symmetry_> hi Ubuntu
[12:57] <biovore> !ati
[12:57] <ubotu> I guess ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[12:57] <ogami1972> tons o servers- have fun ( i'll see you soon! ;p)
[12:57] <Symmetry_> I'm running Ubuntu in VMware, and can't change resolutions to anything other than 1024x768, it comes out garbled
[12:57] <Symmetry_> any hints? (this is after installing VMware tools, which is an add-on package. Originally the installation worked fine with 1280x800 (my native res)
[12:57] <biovore> Symmetry_: works here
[12:57] <ogami1972> grrr- i actually have the IE4 package for linux, but can't find where i got it....
[12:57] <duelboot> ogami1972, are they preloaded?
[12:57] <scorchsaber> nalioth: perhaps showing the IRC rules before showing me the code of conduct is more apporpriate?
[12:57] <scorchsaber> nalioth: or at least before the kick
[12:57] <maike-maus> hello. I'd like to install mplayer, but my synaptics showed me 8 or 9 packages. does anyone know what's the right one?
[12:57] <majd> is there a program that comes with ubuntu to burn iso images?
[12:58] <eggzeck> ogami1972, IE4 as in Internet Explorer?!
[12:58] <mwe> venin: you need to link the plugin to /home/venin/.mozilla/plugins if you didn't
[12:58] <duelboot> majd, use K3B...I prefer it best
[12:58] <ogami1972> yeah- just start, then "find server"- pick one, enter a call sign and wath your back!
[12:58] <Symmetry_> biovore, it's probably been screwed up by VMware tools... could you tell me where to dig in ubuntu's settings perhaps
[12:58] <biovore> maike-maus: mplayer-686 is probably what you want
[12:58] <ogami1972> and yes, as in internet explorer- give me a minut
[12:58] <Symmetry_> other than the obvious menus etc
[12:58] <eugman> Eggzeck as opposed to Ireland 4?
[12:58] <scorchsaber> mplayer 586
[12:58] <duelboot> rgr cya
[12:58] <eggzeck> eugman, lol.
[12:58] <biovore> Symmetry_: graphics stuff is located in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:58] <sirblue> scorchsaber: and there even isn't anything about j.c. there...
[12:58] <Symmetry_> biovore, thanks
[12:58] <eggzeck> ogami1972, why would you want that?
[12:58] <yuion> mwe, and now i dont understand...and even if i change port usage in ktorrent it still scream about porst 6882
[12:59] <eugman> He doesn't I do.
[12:59] <digitalhav0c> whats the line to fix broken pkgs
[12:59] <scorchsaber> mplayer 56 is the right package, if I am not msitaken, miake-maus
[12:59] <eugman> So site are firefox incompatible.
[12:59] <venin> mwe, apple.com/trailers work fine.. its just some pages..
[12:59] <digitalhav0c> sudo apt-get -f or something like that?
[12:59] <scorchsaber> 586
[12:59] <eggzeck> eugman, why would you? Testing something?
[12:59] <venin> mwe, problem described here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-131093.html
[12:59] <biovore> digitalhav0c: sudo apt-get install -f
[12:59] <biovore> if trhere fixable
[12:59] <eugman> Nah, This one rebate site thing is wierd.
[01:00] <mwe> venin: I don't know. automatix is known to break things though
[01:00] <eugman> Hmm I think I found what i need. http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/
[01:00] <nalioth> !automatix
[01:00] <ubotu> automatix is, like, unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[01:00] <venin> i know
[01:00] <venin> hehe
[01:00] <venin> but didnt when i installed it :p
[01:00] <digitalhav0c> thanks biovore
[01:00] <eugman> oh wait it lloks like it may just be for testing
[01:02] <mwe> venin: my great grand father smoked 60 cigarettes a day and lived to be 91 years old. does that mean it's safe to smoke 60 cigarettes a day?
[01:02] <mwe> venin: maybe it did break something after all
[01:02] <venin> uhm
[01:02] <venin> "i know, but i didnt when i installed it"
[01:02] <venin> i didnt KNOW when i installed it, hehe
[01:02] <eugman> venin , does it have your old settigs backed up if you want to undo it?
[01:03] <venin> eugman, not sure
[01:03] <mwe> venin: hmm
[01:03] <dungodung> my ubuntu crashes sometimes... when I start like 5 programs, it starts loading slowly and slower by the second until it almost completely blocks and I have to reset
[01:03] <dungodung> why is that?
[01:03] <eugman> I don't think it does but I may be wrong.
[01:03] <yuion> mwe, now its work
[01:03] <wvelez> hi...what program can i use to convert flac to mp3? thanks
[01:03] <mwe> dungodung: maybe it's using all your ram and starts trashing
[01:04] <mwe> yuion: good
[01:04] <mwe> well good night all ...
[01:04] <dungodung> well, I have 256, but still with WinXP it took much longer for it to crash
[01:04] <anizee> thats great
[01:04] <anizee> "took longer to crash
[01:04] <anizee> "
[01:05] <ogami1972> well, i didn't want it , so i tossed the package, and now can't remeber where i found it...
[01:05] <pvd2006> wow, VLC player works really well straight out of the package
[01:05] <NickGarvey> wvelez: http://tuxspot.blogspot.com/2005/08/converting-flac-to-mp3.html
[01:05] <NickGarvey> wvelez: that took me 30 seconds on google
[01:05] <eugman> Anyone know where I can get wine tools?
[01:07] <eugman> !winetools
[01:07] <dungodung> anizee: what I mean is... I have to reset quite a few times a day and it can really become really slow, whereas with WinXP, I didn't have to reboot for weeks
[01:07] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, eugman
[01:07] <eugman> Ubotu has a cat? interesting...
[01:07] <ubotu> eugman: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:07] <anizee> oh ok
[01:07] <DewDude> i'm running ubuntu-PPC on an iMac..since i've recently rearranged things i've decided to stick it in a closet and make it a server...of sorts...i'd like to change from runlevel 5 to 3...where can i modify that setting?
[01:07] <NickGarvey> eugman: I'd try google, thats most likely your best bet
[01:07] <DewDude> i don't really need it to boot into a GUI on boot.
[01:07] <anizee> whats your proc
[01:08] <NickGarvey> DewDude: I believe its /etc/inittab, but the way that I do it is to remove the exectuable attribute on gdm in your start up scripts
[01:08] <dungodung> anizee: so how come ubuntu is so unreliable when it comes to this
[01:08] <NickGarvey> dungodung: kidding? I don't ever reboot my linux computer
[01:08] <DewDude> NickGarvey, i was looking around that and got confused...your way sounds like it'd work too
[01:09] <anizee> Id say to check what your swap size is, and see if Ubuntu is dumping correctly
[01:09] <NickGarvey> DewDude: trick my linux user group leader taught me ;)
[01:09] <dungodung> NickGarvey: that's what I'd like to have at my disposal, but it's just not doable now
[01:09] <DewDude> haha...do i modify all my rc? scripts?
[01:09] <NickGarvey> dungodung: do you have swap space?
[01:09] <DewDude> i'm really rusty with linux
[01:09] <dungodung> anizee: oh.. I don't have swap... I thought that might be the prob
[01:09] <NickGarvey> DewDude: don't modify them, just chmod a-x gdm
[01:09] <DewDude> my imac is running dev release Breezy
[01:09] <DewDude> hrmm
[01:09] <DewDude> ok
[01:09] <gnomefreak> dungodung: whats your ram at?
[01:10] <DewDude> one more question..where's the gdm executable
[01:10] <NickGarvey> gnomefreak: 256 I believe
[01:10] <dungodung> gnomefreak: 78.3%
[01:10] <NickGarvey> DewDude: don't change the executable, just the start up script
[01:10] <DewDude> or do i just need to type that in command line
[01:10] <DewDude> ....ok
[01:10] <gnomefreak> anything 1 gig of ram or more you dont need it (ive heard+read)
[01:10] <anizee> dungodung: how did U set up the drive
[01:10] <gnomefreak> dungodung: make a swap partition
[01:10] <ogami1972> i may have missed it, but why do you want IE, eugman?
[01:10] <NickGarvey> DewDude: cd /etc/rc5.something
[01:10] <gnomefreak> you nee dit
[01:10] <ogami1972> oh
[01:10] <DewDude> rc5.d
[01:10] <DewDude> gotcha
[01:10] <NickGarvey> DewDude: sudo chmod a-x gdm
[01:11] <dungodung> anizee: well I didn't use swap because I thought it was a bad doggie ;)
[01:11] <DewDude> ahhhhhhhhhhhh
[01:11] <anizee> dungodung, Id put in a gig swap
[01:11] <DewDude> it clicked into place
[01:11] <NickGarvey> dungodung: that would be why..
[01:11] <dungodung> but seriously, I have only NTFS partitions... is swap doable in those conditions?
[01:11] <anizee> dungodung, without it, ubuntu is gonna run out of ram too quickly
[01:11] <gnomefreak> swap should be atleast 2X your ram
[01:12] <ogami1972> really!
[01:12] <ogami1972> oh my!
[01:12] <mc|amb> hi, what's command in the terminal to get al my system info (kernel, themes, icons, etc)..?
[01:12] <void^> you can use a swapfile.
[01:12] <anizee> gnomefreak, I agree up to 1 gig of memory
[01:12] <thrice`> mc|amb, there is noe command
[01:12] <thrice`> single*
[01:12] <anizee> then there is less of a need
[01:12] <dungodung> can someone point me to a place where it is thoroughly described how to enable it
[01:12] <DewDude> ok, danke Nick...when the box reboots, i'll let you know
[01:12] <gnomefreak> anizee: correct
[01:12] <dungodung> or is someone willing to do it with me
[01:13] <NickGarvey> DewDude: :)
[01:13] <mc|amb> thrice, then how do I get, i've seen screenshots with the terminal displaying that kind of info
[01:13] <anizee> dungodung,  your gonna need to partition and format it
[01:13] <NickGarvey> !swap
[01:13] <ubotu> somebody said swap was used to put unused programs out of memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SwapFaq
[01:13] <NickGarvey> dungodung: check that link out ^
[01:13] <dungodung> sure will. thanks
[01:13] <DewDude> i got another hour of downloading left
[01:13] <dungodung> anizee: oh.. I'm afraid that won't be possible...
[01:13] <thrice`> mc|amb, well; uname -a will give kernel, cat /proc/cpuinfo will give cpu stuff, free -m will give memory...um
[01:14] <anizee> dungodung,  then add an old 1 gig drive to the box
[01:14] <NickGarvey> dungodung: yeah my swap is on an old HD
[01:14] <mc|amb> thrice`, ok, thanks
[01:14] <gnomefreak> dungodung: you can just add swap space to a new partiton he didnt mean format the harddrive
[01:14] <anizee> dungodung, hell take a damaged drive and partition the swap around the bad area
[01:14] <unbuntu> Hey guys, is there some way to make Wine have more support?
[01:15] <dungodung> gnomefreak: I have about 4 gigs left on this partition that's being used for linux. can I add 1 gig for swap here?
[01:15] <anizee> gnomefreak, yea sorry
[01:15] <dungodung> andrey: I don't have any more room in my rack ;)
[01:15] <anizee> dungodung, not likely, but possible
[01:15] <vidchi> Does anyone know how I can find out dependency problems for .deb packages?
[01:15] <IdleOne> hmm this 1 gig hd swap thing is interesting is there a wiki that explains how to do this?
[01:15] <vidchi> please
[01:16] <NickGarvey> !tell IdleOne about swap
[01:16] <unbuntu> Which would you suggest Xwine or wine
[01:16] <IdleOne> thank you
[01:16] <anizee> gots to go!!
[01:16] <vidchi> I got it nvm
[01:16] <zambaboo> ok guys
[01:16] <zambaboo> er wrong chan
[01:17] <soulslayer> hello
[01:18] <vidchi> how do i install  libstdc++2.10-glib2.2
[01:18] <vidchi>  please
[01:19] <NickGarvey> vidchi: man aptitude
[01:19] <NickGarvey> unbuntu: depends on what you need it for
[01:19] <vidchi> NickGarvey, ty
[01:19] <vidchi> nxclient
[01:19] <unbuntu> Anyone know a windows emulator that will play starcraft
[01:19] <harisund> could some one tell me how I can find the commands that run my applets? Like I have a Sticky notes applet.. how do I know what command runs it?
[01:20] <unbuntu> Anyone know a windows emulator that will play starcraft
[01:21] <unbuntu> Anyone know a windows emulator that will play starcraft
[01:22] <reiki> VMWAre :)
[01:22] <Pavix> When installing sun java I get Package sun-j2re1.5 is not available, but is referred to by another package. etc
[01:22] <NickGarvey> unbuntu: I'd look into cedega
[01:22] <Pavix> What do I do to fix
[01:22] <sorsis> Ubugtu: i think that wine or cedega did it
[01:22] <harisund> could some one tell me how I can find the commands that run my applets? Like I have a Sticky notes applet.. how do I know what command runs it?
[01:23] <seishi> i need to talk with someone about allegro instalation on ubuntu... plz pvt-me
[01:23] <unbuntu> Thanks
[01:23] <sorsis> Ubugtu: you can allso look to linux-gamers.com if there is linux native binary ro something
[01:23] <__mikem> For gaming, cedega seems like a good idea, however if you don't want to pay money, with a little work, you can get a lot of stuff to run reliably on wine
[01:23] <sorsis> whops. wrong nick
[01:23] <__mikem> !cedega
[01:24] <grogoreo> hi
[01:24] <thrice`> harisund, ps aux or top will give you a list of running commands
[01:24] <seishi> i need to talk with someone about allegro instalation on ubuntu... i need help :|
[01:24] <thrice`> otherwise, try man strace
[01:24] <grogoreo> is there a jabber client that supports video?
[01:24] <phoul> hello
[01:24] <unbuntu> where do i get ahold of cedega
[01:24] <phoul> Im trying to get the mozzilla mplayer plugin working except it keeps using xine instead
[01:24] <phoul> and ideas?
[01:24] <thrice`> unbuntu, ask google
[01:25] <void^> unbuntu: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?appId=72
[01:25] <harisund> could some one tell me how I can find the commands that run my applets? Like I have a Sticky notes applet.. how do I know what command runs it?
[01:25] <thrice`> harisund, i already did
[01:25] <phoul> Anyone know?
[01:25] <_jason> phoul: remove the xine plugin
[01:25] <harisund> thrice: Thanks a ton.. somehow, I didn't get that message..
[01:25] <harisund> thrice: What you had typed? Could you type that again? (sorry)
[01:25] <thrice`> harisund, :)  try ps aux, see what's running on your system currently; it should show up
[01:26] <phoul> _jason, i couldnt find the xine plugin
[01:26] <phoul> I looked in synaptic but to no success
[01:26] <_jason> phoul: do you remember how you installed it?
[01:26] <thrice`> one of them should look similar
[01:26] <harisund> thrice`: hmm ok .. I will be back.. thanks ..
[01:26] <maike-maus> I'd like to play a video file (.wmv), but totem told me that this is not possible. does anybody know an other player or name of codec package (decoder plugin) ?
[01:26] <phoul> _jason, i dont think i did
[01:26] <phoul> I think it came out of box
[01:26] <thrice`> !win32
[01:26] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, thrice`
[01:26] <_jason> phoul: you mean totem?
[01:26] <phoul> gxine
[01:26] <thrice`> oops
[01:26] <thrice`> !restricted
[01:26] <ubotu> [restricted]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[01:26] <_jason> phoul: gxine doesn't come out of the box.  Type about:plugins in firefox address bar and tell me the file it is using
[01:27] <e-sin> !freeformats
[01:27] <IdleOne> NickGarvey, the !swap wiki tells me how to add a swap partition to my system but it doesnt say anything about adding a ex: 2gig HD and making it swap. unless I am not understanding something on the site
[01:27] <ubotu> There are a large number of Free Formats which are preferred over patent and copyright encumbered formats. They are listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[01:27] <phoul> Totem Mozilla Plugin
[01:27] <_jason> ubotu: tell phoul about replacetotem
[01:27] <ChangerOfSea> is there anyway to restart /dev/dsp or find out what prog is using it?
[01:27] <phoul> and gxine starter plugin
[01:28] <biovore> ChangerOfSea: lsof
[01:28] <_jason> phoul: well see if what ubotu just said takes care of it.  If not ping me
[01:28] <eugman> Hey how do I look for a file by extention?
[01:28] <thrice`> ls *.txt
[01:28] <thrice`> or, locate *.txt for system wide
[01:28] <biovore> ChangerOfSea: may want to get your apps to use alsa interface instread of the legacy oss sound interface
[01:28] <ChangerOfSea> biovore: thanks
[01:28] <phoul> _jason, no it didnt
[01:28] <ChangerOfSea> how do i do that
[01:29] <clerik> how can i changed the screen refresh rate if it is not listed in the System->Preferences->Screen Resolution menu ?
[01:29] <biovore> depends on the applicatiion
[01:29] <_jason> phoul: did you close all instances of firefox and open it again?
[01:29] <ChangerOfSea> vlc..
[01:29] <biovore> I don't know about vlc..
[01:29] <ChangerOfSea> k..
[01:29] <biovore> I don't use it
[01:29] <seishi> i need to talk with someone about allegro instalation on ubuntu... i need help :|
[01:29] <JImRaynor> I have a question
[01:29] <eugman> Why is mt eject button disabaled?
[01:29] <phoul> _jason, yeah
[01:29] <phoul> Its using gxine
[01:30] <phoul> Its using ....
[01:30] <HymnToLife> !question
[01:30] <JImRaynor> I need help setting up wireless on my laptop
[01:30] <ubotu> HymnToLife: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:30] <dungodung> ok, I set the swap partition
[01:30] <dungodung> no, swap file
[01:30] <biovore> eugman: its a unix thing..
[01:30] <phoul> gxine starter plugin
[01:30] <_jason> phoul: pastebin 'ls /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/' please
[01:30] <JImRaynor> but I have no idea how
[01:30] <HymnToLife> !tell JImRaynor about wireless
[01:30] <natesmith> hi
[01:30] <digitalhav0c> how do you start 3d desktop
[01:30] <biovore> eugman: make use nothing is using the cdrom drive or the os won't release the disk
[01:30] <unbuntu> Xwine crashes alot, any tips?
[01:30] <digitalhav0c> i can't find it on any of the menus
[01:30] <unbuntu> or upgrades?
[01:30] <eugman> Is there a reason? Like to stop people from  stealing cd's off terminals?
[01:30] <digitalhav0c> just installed through synaptic
[01:30] <__mikem> hey, what is this Cedega CVS thing and how do I get it
[01:31] <Aeos> Hi is there a way to disable the screensaver? everytime I try to disable it through the gui it crashes, and if it runs it crashes
[01:31] <_jason> __mikem: transgaming.com
[01:31] <phoul> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12056
[01:31] <biovore> eugman: lsof will show list of open files
[01:31] <phoul> _jason, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12056
[01:31] <phoul> :)
[01:31] <HymnToLife> eugman> just run sudo eject /cdrom :)
[01:31] <maike-maus> !paste
[01:31] <ubotu> Please don't flood the channel! For best results use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and tell people the URL
[01:31] <__mikem> _jason, I know, but wiki.ubuntu.com/cedega says something about Cedega CVS which is supposed to be free
[01:31] <_jason> phoul: k, under gxine starter plugin, what does it say for 'File name: ' right underneath?
[01:32] <phoul> gxineplugin.so
[01:32] <__mikem> i tried going to the link it mentioned, but I am having a bit of trouble
[01:32] <phoul> Yeah
[01:32] <biovore> __mikem: cedega cvs is the  whole thing
[01:32] <biovore> (isn't)
[01:32] <_jason> phoul: pastebin the results of 'locate gxineplugin.so'
[01:32] <biovore> __mikem: you don't get the close source direct X stuff
[01:32] <Aeos> does anyone know the command to disable the screensaver?
[01:32] <natesmith> hey, right now i have a dual-boot XP and ubuntu PC an 2 hard disks, but I'd like to remove windows and install ubuntu on the main hard disk, so that it runs using both hard disks. How will this work? How do I format each and once I've done it how will I access each disk?
[01:32] <__mikem> viovore, I am not sure what you mean
[01:33] <unbuntu> I thought All Linux programs were free?
[01:33] <_jason> !free
[01:33] <ubotu> I guess free is Free as in free software = free as in freedom. For more info visit:http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html
[01:33] <phoul> _jason, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12057
[01:33] <biovore> __mikem: the pay version of cedega uses close source mircosoft libs to emulate
[01:33] <HymnToLife> ubuntulog> then you thought wrong
[01:33] <biovore> GNU == Free
[01:33] <Kira> weeee
[01:34] <_jason> phoul: dpkg -S /home/colin/.mozilla/plugins/gxineplugin.so
[01:34] <__mikem> biovore, go to wiki.ubuntu.com/cedega
[01:34] <Kira> I just realised that 6.04 should be coming out soon. :)
[01:34] <HymnToLife> natesmith> just install Ubuntu on the main drive the same way you did for the other drive
[01:34] <ogami1972> well, lessee if there's anyone new in here...
[01:34] <natesmith> do I format the second drive using LVM?
[01:34] <blanky> he
[01:34] <phoul> _jason, colin@Ubuntu:~$  dpkg -S /home/colin/.mozilla/plugins/gxineplugin.so
[01:34] <phoul> dpkg: /home/colin/.mozilla/plugins/gxineplugin.so not found.
[01:34] <blanky> when does dapper come out, the release, about when
[01:34] <ogami1972> does anyone have flash w/ sound in Dapper?
[01:34] <__mikem> the last two lines in the paragraph
[01:34] <_jason> phoul: rm /home/colin/.mozilla/plugins/gxineplugin.so /home/colin/.firefox/plugins/gxineplugin.so, and restart firefox
[01:34] <blanky> !dapper
[01:34] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[01:34] <__mikem> You can use a CVS version of cedega (this is free), instructions on how to install this are at [WWW] 
[01:34] <HymnToLife> natesmith> I never used LVM, I guess it should work fine but you don't HAVE to
[01:34] <blanky> JUNE 1ST?! WOW
[01:35] <blanky> i thought it'd be out this april
[01:35] <CookedGryphon> natesmith you can set the other hard drive as a mount point
[01:35] <natesmith> how?
[01:35] <ogami1972> a delay was set to iron a few bugs out
[01:35] <ogami1972> like this flash thing for instance
[01:35] <HymnToLife> blanky> it was postponed as you can see :p
[01:35] <unbuntu> Wait, if everything that runs on linux is open source, how to they prevent a person from just copying the files
[01:35] <blanky> HymnToLife, the world's gonna end! a delay?! from ubuntu!? noooo!
[01:35] <HymnToLife> ubuntulog> not everything that runs on Linux is open source
[01:35] <phoul> _jason, still same problem
[01:36] <ogami1972> um, what do you mean?
[01:36] <Eleaf> ???????
[01:36] <JImRaynor> ok, so I lookedup my wireless card on wiki.ubuntu.com and ofcourse the install page is broken
[01:36] <eugman> Unbuntu and what might that person do with the files?
[01:36] <JImRaynor> so I need to know how to install my broadcom wireless card
[01:36] <Eleaf> lol
[01:36] <ogami1972> copy all you want- just make sure everyone else gets too as well...
[01:36] <_jason> phoul: it still lists gxineplugin.so in firefox's about:plugins?
[01:36] <Cloud_tm> Ahem:  Where are programs stored with WINE? Where can I look to find the file in the fake "C:" drive?
[01:36] <HymnToLife> JImRaynor> you had a look at the links ubotu gave you  ?
[01:36] <biovore> ~/.wine ussualy
[01:36] <maike-maus> hello, I still need your help with plugin or codec or whatever to play a wmv file. my about:plugin page can be seen here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d12058
[01:36] <JImRaynor> yup
[01:36] <natesmith> how would install my second HD as a mount point?
[01:36] <JImRaynor> ubotu failed me
[01:36] <ubotu> JImRaynor: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:36] <phoul> _jason, gxine starter plugin yeah
[01:36] <HymnToLife> Cloud_tm> winecfg
[01:36] <blanky> someone please LISTEN: are there latest builds of ubuntu distro? or do i have to get the old one, the one when it came out
[01:36] <blanky> in other words
[01:37] <unbuntu> How is everything not open source, i thought it was all accessable
[01:37] <_jason> phoul: are you sure you closed all instances of firefox?
[01:37] <blanky> do they make new releases of ubuntu, i mean, still version 5.10, but with updated programs already
[01:37] <blanky> instead of having to update and all
[01:37] <HymnToLife> will open the WINE configuration panel, in the Drives tab in it you will find the paths of your fake WINE draives
[01:37] <phoul> _jason, yes i will do it once more tho
[01:37] <ogami1972> OMG!
[01:37] <e-sin> blanky, short answer is no
[01:37] <_jason> phoul: when you close them, do: ps aux | grep firefox, to make sure
[01:37] <blanky> e-sin, damn, i hate having to update for 9 hours straight
[01:37] <Eleaf> ubuntu, huh?
[01:37] <unbuntu> I thought you couldn't truly "hide" files on linux
[01:37] <ogami1972> ok- flash sound IS coming from the onboard, just not the pci card!
[01:37] <Cloud_tm> HymnToLifeL Where is the wine config panel. how do I access that
[01:37] <eugman> unbuntu sometimes things like video drivers a re needed but aren't open source. You yoiurself can install stuff that is closed source but verything that comes with ubuntu is open source or very important.
[01:37] <ogami1972> anyone know this?
[01:38] <Eleaf> unbuntu, what are you talking about?
[01:38] <HymnToLife> ubuntulog> then you thought wrong :)
[01:38] <_jason> ubotu: tell maike-maus about replacetotem
[01:38] <phoul> whoop i guess i didnt
[01:38] <phoul> It works now
[01:38] <phoul> :)
[01:38] <phoul> Thx _jason
[01:38] <biovore> unbuntu: you can't on the filesystem.. but you can unlink some filesystem nodes and hide them :-P
[01:38] <_jason> phoul: great, np
[01:38] <HymnToLife> if some dude creates a piece of software and doesn't want it to be open soure, it's his choice
[01:39] <Chousuke> HymnToLife: unless he utilises GPL libraries while making it.
[01:39] <unbuntu> So they can prevent you from accessing them?
[01:39] <_jason> !offtopic
[01:39] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[01:39] <biovore> :-p  GPL just says you have to distribute the source with your program
[01:39] <biovore> nothing about it being free of charge
[01:40] <Chousuke> of course.
[01:40] <unbuntu> But if you want to delete a file, (such as an important one) nothing stops you?
[01:40] <Chousuke> I can sell you Ubuntu discs for $100 a piece. Want some?
[01:40] <CookedGryphon> hi, does anyone know where i could send my suggestion for a better dapper logo?
[01:40] <Chousuke> I can draw pretty pictures on them!
[01:40] <biovore> hehe
[01:40] <Chousuke> (stick figures)
[01:40] <unbuntu> sorry chousuke, mabey some other time
[01:40] <HymnToLife> unbuntu> important files are normally read only for any user
[01:40] <biovore> hmm must work for redhat
[01:40] <HymnToLife> you have to be root or use sudo to delete them
[01:41] <unbuntu> oh
[01:41] <unbuntu> ok
[01:41] <Chousuke> unbuntu: filenames starting with a . are considered hidden
[01:41] <ogami1972> ok folks- here i sproblem- flash only plays through onboard sound- any ideas?
[01:41] <unbuntu> ok
[01:41] <unbuntu> thanks guys
[01:42] <tspier2> Hi. I set up Apache, PHP, and MySQL on my computer, because I want to make it into a little server. How can I change the URL from "http://localhost:78" to an actual URL? And also, how can I change the home page from the default file browser to one of the files?
[01:43] <ReleaseX> good evening
[01:43] <eugman> Hey is there a way to cli install a rpinter?
[01:43] <Aeos> where can I disable the screensaver without going through the screensaver gui. If I even view the demo of the screensaver my system will lock up
[01:43] <LadyNikon> wow
[01:43] <LadyNikon> tspier2: do you have a domain?
[01:43] <Cloud_tm> How do i set up a link on my desktop to go to a certain file using WINE?
[01:44] <HymnToLife> tspier2> you mean so that people will access your server by a ttp://xxx.yyy.org URL ?
[01:44] <LadyNikon> also.. tspier2  you have to edit the file... or create a new file to put in the defaults page place.
[01:44] <DewDude> heh...i need a new network switch
[01:44] <_jason> Aeos: ~/.xscreensaver
[01:44] <DewDude> i even touch the power cord and it cuts out
[01:44] <LadyNikon> DewDude: doh!
[01:44] <DewDude> yeah
[01:44] <DewDude> my mini-lan
[01:45] <DewDude> cuz i've got two computers in here
[01:45] <DewDude> soon i'll have three
[01:45] <eugman> Anyone know how I can install a printer without using the administartor-> printing option?
[01:45] <DewDude> but the laptop has wifi
[01:45] <biovore> eugman: cupsys?
[01:45] <tspier2> I might be getting a free domain from that www.no-ip.com site.
[01:45] <tspier2> Which file do I need to edit?
[01:46] <DewDude> file...edit?
[01:46] <DewDude> for what
[01:46] <HymnToLife> the root of your webserver ir /var/www by default
[01:46] <HymnToLife> is*
[01:46] <DewDude> oh..
[01:46] <CookedGryphon> Aeos: i have that problem, are you using compiz/xgl/dapper? i assumed it was somethign to do with xgl
[01:46] <Vilan> ok
[01:46] <DewDude> you need to edit your apache conf and set up a vhost
[01:46] <eugman> tspier2 no file i belive
[01:46] <biovore> tspier2: I belive they give you a script to update your system
[01:46] <eugman> They can send the people who go to say tspier2.redirectme.net to you computer at a specific port
[01:47] <eugman> And the DO provide an update script.
[01:47] <eugman> er they do
[01:47] <tspier2> Oh
[01:47] <majd> does the php5-mysql package install only mysql4.0 support?
[01:47] <marcus__> hello to all, I am in search for the wormux rpm
[01:47] <Cloud_tm> Question! How do i set up a link on my desktop to go to a certain file using WINE?
[01:47] <biovore> marcus__: rpmfind.net
[01:47] <eugman> Biovore : can you tell me where I find out how to use cupsys?
[01:48] <biovore> eugman: cups is a big project..
[01:48] <tspier2> marcus__, http://www.wormux.org/wiki/en/download.php should have it.
[01:48] <biovore> eugman: google on it.. should be first hit for there home page
[01:48] <eugman> Actually I'm trying localhost:631 that should work..
[01:48] <marcus__> tanks!
[01:48] <biovore> eugman: rgr, make sure you have a root account password
[01:48] <biovore> eugman: ubuntu disables admining from webinterface
[01:49] <aLPHahack> hello hello peoples
[01:49] <aLPHahack> :O
[01:49] <biovore> :-P
[01:49] <aLPHahack> >:(
[01:49] <eugman> What do you mean root account password? Isn't there none? or do you mean mine.
[01:49] <Aeos> problem solved thanks all
[01:49] <Alphie> >;(
[01:49] <biovore> eugman: you need to set one..
[01:49] <eugman> hmmm
[01:50] <Alphie> can someone help me?
[01:50] <biovore> eugman: then muck around in the /etc/cups/ stuff
[01:50] <Alphie> pleaseeeeeeeee
[01:50] <biovore> ask your question
[01:50] <eugman> gah
[01:50] <Alphie> ok
[01:50] <Alphie> i have a 1394 ethernet controller
[01:50] <Alphie> and ubuntu recognizes it
[01:50] <Alphie> but it's disabled by default
[01:50] <Alphie> and when i try to enable it
[01:50] <tspier2> Alphie, #1 rule of IRC: Don't ask to ask a question; just say it.
[01:51] <Tm_T> !helpme
[01:51] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[01:51] <Tm_T> ah, even bot knows that
[01:51] <tspier2> Lol
[01:51] <Alphie> using the admin button and pushing enable it will goto enable then disable itself right after
[01:52] <__mikem> Hey, I downloaded the cvs thing, I did sh WineCVS.sh, but I am having some problems
[01:52] <Alphie> so i dunno what to do if it just keeps disabling itself?
[01:53] <NickGarvey> !tell Alphie about enter
[01:53] <biovore> what 1394 chipset you using? (try a lspci on the command prompt)
[01:53] <Alphie> lspci?
[01:54] <Alphie> i'm on windows right now -.-
[01:55] <Alphie> all it says is, "ethernet adapter" in ip config
[01:55] <Eleaf> yenter
[01:56] <biovore> Alphie: this is a linux support channel.. not windows
[01:56] <Alphie> i know, i'm looking for support on ubuntu it's just that i don't have any other distro of linux installed
[01:57] <biovore> Alphie: well looking at what you got you want to run IP over firewire?
[01:57] <ogami1972> ok- i am not trying to be pushy, but my brother is coming to pick up his "new" computer, and i can't figure this out
[01:57] <ogami1972> sounds in flash only play through onboard, not PCI
[01:57] <biovore> ogami1972: turn of the onboard audio
[01:58] <Pupeno> Hello.
[01:58] <NickGarvey> hello
[01:58] <ogami1972> no, everything else plays thru the pci card (xmms, amarok, xine, etc)
[01:58] <Pupeno> Does anybody know the name of the GNome diff viewer ? I've seen a friend use it; it is similar to Kompare.
[01:58] <Alphie> what i got is a generic 1394 ethernet adapter used in sony VAIO desktop and i need ubuntu to work with it to use PPPOE to log into my adsl connection
[01:58] <ogami1972> is there a way to "pipe" it?
[01:59] <tspier2> LadyNikon, what is the default page for Apache2?
[02:00] <biovore> Alphie: a PPPOE adsl modem.. I have never seen on of those..
[02:00] <biovore> (firewire one)
[02:00] <LadyNikon> tspier2: i dunno exactly where it is.
[02:01] <LadyNikon> you can probably locate the html page.
[02:01] <DewDude> tspier2, are you trying to set up a website?
[02:01] <LadyNikon> on your default page i think it tells you where it us.
[02:01] <LadyNikon> is*
[02:01] <tspier2> Yes
[02:01] <tspier2> Okay
[02:01] <Alphie> lol biovore
[02:01] <DewDude> and you got a domain from no-ip.com right?
[02:01] <tspier2> Ah
[02:01] <tspier2> I know now.
[02:01] <DewDude> heh
[02:02] <tspier2> You just put your files into the default directory (/var/www/apache2-default), and it will load up.
[02:02] <DewDude> you can specify where your documentroot is in the apache conf file
[02:02] <tspier2> At least, I think so.
[02:02] <warpzone_> hey guys
[02:02] <DewDude> tspier2, you can specify the directory for your HTML
[02:02] <tspier2> In apache2.conf?
[02:02] <DewDude> yes
[02:03] <acetech82> sorry for asking here... but i am working on some java homework and am trying to send a int, int statement to a class and get the variable back.... for some reason i am only able to send one int statement and not two.  Can someone pointme to a good irc channel for help on this or help me out with this problem?
[02:03] <NickGarvey> #java
[02:03] <DewDude> you can specify a vhost if you want
[02:03] <rttedder> Hello. Can anyone tell me how to view my system profile in Ubuntu? Memory, etc.?
[02:03] <eugman> Hey I'm running dapper and can't get a response in ubuntu+1 anyone have any idea why when I try to add a printer nothing happens aftert I hit apply?
[02:03] <DewDude> or just modify the default settings
[02:03] <JImRaynor> acetech82, ##java
[02:03] <Alphie> biovore
[02:03] <Alphie> i found my chipset lol
[02:03] <acetech82> JimRaynor, thanks i will try it out
[02:04] <JImRaynor> :D
[02:04] <warpzone_> I'm having a problem with my locales and can't upgrade anything. I dont know when it started. Here's the error:
[02:04] <warpzone_> http://www.nexbase.net/photo-gallery/Ghost-Rider
[02:04] <warpzone_> Generating locales...
[02:04] <warpzone_>   Usage:./usr/sbin/validlocale <locale>...Try `localedef --help' or `localedef --usage' for more information.
[02:04] <warpzone_> dpkg: error processing locales (--configure):
[02:04] <warpzone_>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 4
[02:04] <warpzone_> Errors were encountered while processing:
[02:04] <warpzone_>  locales
[02:04] <warpzone_> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[02:04] <johnny3d> hello.  I would like to install KDE fully through synaptic from breezy.  Is this possible?
[02:04] <tspier2> acetech82, if you ever have a question that is programming-related, just get onto FreeNode, and type /join #whatever_programming_language, and it probably has a channel.
[02:04] <Alphie> SPAM
[02:04] <warpzone_> my bad, didnt think it would split like that
[02:05] <biovore> warpzone_: dpkg-reconfigure locales
[02:05] <biovore> or locale
[02:05] <biovore> I forget exactly
[02:05] <warpzone_> biovore: thanks I'll give it a shot!
[02:05] <majd> does the php5-mysql package install only mysql4.0 support?
[02:05] <tspier2> warpzone, http://www.pastebin.be
[02:05] <eugman> johnny3d yes installing kubuntu-desktop should do it.
[02:06] <johnny3d> eugman, I understand that part.  Is it possible to do a full install of KDE from synaptic?
[02:06] <DewDude> umm
[02:06] <DewDude> installing kubuntu-desktop does a full kde install
[02:06] <warpzone_> tspier2: whats the site for?
[02:06] <DewDude> kubuntu-desktop is just a meta package telling synaptic what other packages to install
[02:06] <Alphie> biovore i think i found my ethernet adapter  Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8169
[02:06] <biovore> rgr that dewdude
[02:06] <biovore> gigabit?
[02:06] <DewDude> so you install kubuntu-desktop..synaptic will install KDE completely
[02:06] <johnny3d> DewDude, to my understanding it installs k-desktop alongside gnome
[02:06] <eugman> Unless there is some part of KDE that is extraneous it should, yes.
[02:07] <DewDude> yes.
[02:07] <DewDude> it does.
[02:07] <DewDude> you can pick what you want when you log-in
[02:07] <Alphie> not gigabit 100/10
[02:07] <Alphie> 10/100 i mean
[02:07] <biovore> Alphie:  RTL-8169 I think works
[02:07] <johnny3d> DewDude, I don't want that option.  I would like a complete KDE install
[02:07] <warpzone_> biovore: another error:  /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: locales is broken or not fully installed
[02:07] <DewDude> then get kubuntu
[02:07] <johnny3d> DewDude, thats my question.
[02:07] <DewDude> but
[02:07] <DewDude> honestly, there's no difference
[02:07] <Alphie> it's recognised biovore but the system doesn't want to let it enable
[02:07] <DewDude> i started with kubuntu, and migrated to gnome
[02:08] <DewDude> it doesn't affect performance
[02:08] <johnny3d> DewDude, what made you switch?
[02:08] <biovore> Alphie: dose it have a link light?
[02:08] <DewDude> i don't know
[02:08] <majd> Ok, when i type mysql -u root in terminal i get: Your MySQL connection id is 26 to server version: 4.1.12-Debian_1ubuntu3.1-log
[02:08] <Alphie> yes
[02:08] <DewDude> i like the nice clean look of gnome
[02:08] <Alphie> Biovore: yes
[02:08] <DewDude> KDE just seems kinda..cluttered
[02:08] <DewDude> and big
[02:08] <DewDude> i used to be a KDE person though.
[02:08] <biovore> Alphie: this in windows?
[02:08] <Thinkl00p> anyone have asite with update sources for apt for ubuntu?
[02:09] <Tm_T> DewDude: yeah
[02:09] <johnny3d> DewDude, yeah...  I have an ubuntu install on another HD
[02:09] <Tm_T> DewDude: http://www.tm-travolta.net/shots/current.png
[02:09] <arrick> Thinkl00p, easysoerces.net
[02:09] <Tm_T> DewDude: wwwhat's that?
[02:09] <arrick> Sources
[02:09] <majd> however, when i run phpinfo.php, it shows it up as 4.0
[02:09] <Alphie> biovore: i don't understand what's in windows?
[02:09] <arrick> !sources
[02:09] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[02:09] <DewDude> lemme look
[02:10] <arrick> evening all
[02:10] <LathropWells> Hello!  - I am recieving an errr with ./configure - posted the output here  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12059 - Any ideas?
[02:10] <johnny3d> so once again to my original question, is it possible to install KDE through synaptic?
[02:10] <DewDude> dude
[02:10] <DewDude> i like that
[02:10] <DewDude> Johnny3d: i told you
[02:10] <Tm_T> DewDude: but, what is it? ;)
[02:10] <NickGarvey> johnny3d: yes.. someone told you..
[02:10] <DewDude> install kubuntu-desktop
[02:10] <DewDude> Tm_T, i don't know
[02:10] <Thinkl00p> easysources.net don't exist :(
[02:10] <johnny3d> noooooooooo
[02:10] <Tm_T> DewDude: KDE ofcourse ;)
[02:10] <DewDude> heh
[02:10] <biovore> Alphie: I think I have heard of this problem before.. I had a buddy that had issues with the 1394 and the ethernet controller working at the same time..
[02:10] <IdleOne> johnny3d, the answer is yes..if you want just a kde os then download kubuntu and do a fresh install
[02:10] <Tm_T> IdleOne: no, don't say that
[02:11] <Tm_T> EVER
[02:11] <johnny3d> IdleOne, how about through synaptic minus a cd burner?
[02:11] <Tm_T> johnny3d: install kubuntu-desktop package
[02:11] <Alphie> biovore: uhoh, i must have the most uncompatible chipset ever >:(
[02:11] <JImRaynor> how do I install a .deb file?
[02:11] <DewDude> johnny3d, i gave you the information you asked for.
[02:11] <bimberi> !deb
[02:11] <ubotu> To install a .deb file: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb  (but note that the program you want might be installable using !apt from the !repos)
[02:11] <DewDude> if you don't want to listen, blame yourself
[02:11] <void^> LathropWells: err, it seems you run it with ./configure as a parameter.. ?
[02:11] <Tm_T> :)
[02:11] <Thinkl00p> also i have a .bin file but i try to do sudo ./whatever.bin and it says command not found
[02:11] <Thinkl00p> ?
[02:11] <DewDude> everyone here has said if you want kde through synaptic, install kubuntu-desktop
[02:12] <Tm_T> johnny3d: just install that kubuntu-desktop package
[02:12] <LathropWells> void yes, Was that right to do?
[02:12] <[photon] > hey i can't get my wireless networking working... my hardware is recognized and seems to work, but ubuntu won
[02:12] <bimberi> Thinkl00p: sudo sh whatever.bin
[02:12] <void^> LathropWells: no
[02:12] <[photon] > hey i can't get my wireless networking working... my hardware is recognized and seems to work, but ubuntu won't associate to my ap
[02:12] <Der_Richter> Someone who wants to help me a little with ATi-drivers on AMD64-Ubuntu? I'm going insane here...
[02:12] <johnny3d> DewDude, ok.  I am not disregarding your advice.  I am searching all possibilities first.
[02:12] <DewDude> johnny: that's the only possbility
[02:12] <[photon] > the signal given in the iwlist scan is fine, but iwconfig shows 0 signal and if i don't hardset the channel keeps jumping channels
[02:12] <Tm_T> johnny3d: that's best possibility
[02:12] <LathropWells> lol - okay. - i need a tip. (or the linux for dummies book.)
[02:12] <Tm_T> johnny3d: trust me
[02:12] <arrick> Quit repeating your self [photon] 
[02:12] <arrick> !juatask
[02:12] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, arrick
[02:12] <DewDude> unless you want to select all hundred some packages manually
[02:12] <arrick> !patiences
[02:12] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, arrick
[02:13] <void^> LathropWells: you're already in the correct directory, just start with ./configure
[02:13] <LathropWells> likely both - grin
[02:13] <NickGarvey> arrick: haha 0 for 2
[02:13] <arrick> !patience
[02:13] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Please be aware there are a lot of questions, but only maybe few who might know the answer for you. Please be patient. Your attitude may determine their willingness to help you.
[02:13] <DewDude> just, install kubuntu-desktop, it'll install all the packages, configure things.
[02:13] <[photon] > arrick: I chopped off the first bit the first time
[02:13] <johnny3d> ok.  I'll install the desktop and wait for a pressed disk.
[02:13] <Der_Richter> Or is AMD64-version incompatible with the fglrx-modules?
[02:13] <arrick> yeah I hate typeing on the laptop now NickGarvey
[02:13] <[photon] > arrick: just included all of it the second time to make it more legible than a half a sentence :)
[02:13] <LathropWells> void - Thank You. :)
[02:13] <NickGarvey> arrick: I like my laptop keyboard
[02:13] <NickGarvey> arrick: I like flat keys compared to curved ones
[02:13] <johnny3d> DewDude, thankyou for the advice
[02:14] <DewDude> heh, didn't even give me enough time to say no problem
[02:14] <arrick> yeah I have been going back and forth for 2 weeks now on my server and my laptop, and now gotten used to the server NickGarvey
[02:14] <Tm_T> nnnnh
[02:14] <Tm_T> DewDude: nor me to say "welcome to #kubuntu "
[02:14] <DewDude> hahaha
[02:14] <DewDude> dude, i like your theme
[02:15] <DewDude> i'd set something up like that..but..i don't know linux
[02:15] <DewDude> at least not well enough to figure it out
[02:15] <JImRaynor> ok, I"m having trouble installing ndiswrapper
[02:15] <Tm_T> DewDude: but as you saw in my screenshot, KDE doesn't have to be ... well, BIG in look'n'feel
[02:15] <JImRaynor> I went here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowtoUseNdiswrapperOnAmd64Ubuntu?highlight=%28ndiswrapper%29
[02:15] <JImRaynor> but on step 5
[02:15] <JImRaynor> it failed
[02:15] <DewDude> well, i've seen some themes for KDE i liked
[02:15] <Tm_T> heh
[02:15] <DewDude> i could never get them to run. cuz i wanted to run the macosx theme for a while
[02:15] <arrick> ok movie time for me
[02:15] <JImRaynor> oh wait
[02:15] <JImRaynor> nm
[02:15] <JImRaynor> sorry
[02:15] <Thinkl00p> anyone got a site for updated ubuntu sources for apt?
[02:15] <DewDude> becuase i'm running ubuntu on an imac..i thought it'd be cool
[02:15] <DewDude> faux-OSX
[02:15] <arrick> IdleOne, I caught 9 18+inch bass today
[02:15] <JImRaynor> forgot make deb
[02:16] <arrick> good eating
[02:16] <lgc> Hello all from .mx! Is anyone knowledgeable with DRB in Acrobat?
[02:16] <Tm_T> DewDude: to get what I have here, I have tweaking codes too, not every noobs job ofcourse... but close can get without touching the code
[02:16] <DewDude> yeah...see..i started getting the hang of this..then like..stopped using linux for months..naturally i forgot most of what i knew
[02:17] <DewDude> well, i didn't really stop..i've been using SSH on my mobile device for a few months now
[02:17] <bimberi> !tell Thinkl00p about repos
[02:17] <lgc> _jason, nalioth you guys know about DRM stuff?
[02:18] <nalioth> lgc: just ask your question to the channel
[02:18] <protocol1> isnt ssh basically a remote login
[02:18] <protocol1> ?
[02:18] <void^> ..yes?
[02:18] <DewDude> heh, remote shell
[02:18] <protocol1> cool
[02:19] <bimberi> protocol1: yes, but via an encrypted pipe
[02:19] <protocol1> nice
[02:19] <warpzone_> hey guys, I'm trying 'dpkg-reconfigure' but its returning '/usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: locales is broken or not fully installed
[02:19] <warpzone_> '
[02:19] <DewDude> an encrypted pipe between two untrusted hosts
[02:19] <DewDude> :)
[02:19] <DewDude> that's what's crazy
[02:19] <protocol1> so how do you use it?
[02:19] <lgc> nalioth, hi! I sort of did. Do you know how to activate DRM in Acrobat Reader?
[02:19] <bimberi> DewDude: :)
[02:19] <protocol1> ssh IP address?
[02:19] <DewDude> umm
[02:19] <bimberi> protocol1: yes, but a ssh server needs to be running at the other end
[02:19] <protocol1> ahh got ya
[02:20] <DewDude> yeah..then it's just like having a terminal window to the box
[02:20] <protocol1> whats  some server software for ssh
[02:20] <DewDude> like, my Sidekick II has a SSH client..so i can connect to my home machine and use BX or other apps
[02:20] <lgc> noirequus, playing chameleon?
[02:20] <bimberi> protocol1: in ubuntu the package is called 'openssh-server'
[02:20] <protocol1> ok cool
[02:20] <DewDude> install..go
[02:20] <noirequus> lgc: you are off topic in this channel
[02:21] <zarephath> I have Ubuntu PPC...I have read the wiki on restricted formats...I am still unable to play a mpeg video file...
[02:21] <DewDude> hrmmm
[02:21] <lgc> DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW TO ACTIVATE DRM IN ACROBAT READER? (I JUST CAN'T FIND AN OPTION ON THE SPANISH VERSION!)
[02:21] <Eleaf> zarephath, what player?
[02:21] <LathropWells> nalioth - Thank You for your help making a transition to linux easier. Can you take a look at the pastebin? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12059
[02:21] <DewDude> zarephath, did you ever read the unoffical ubuntu guide?
[02:21] <HymnToLife> !caps
[02:21] <ubotu> FYI, typing in ALL CAPS is considered to be 'yelling', and therefore rude behaviour.
[02:22] <protocol1> I just installed it....is there anything I need to configure?
[02:22] <zarephath> Eleaf: I have tried them all...just installed kaffeine...keeps telling me there isn't a decoder that will work....win32 codecs are not an option on PPC
[02:22] <DewDude> yes
[02:22] <DewDude> i had win32 codecs on my PPC
[02:22] <nalioth> lgc: you are offtopic in this channel, and any ubuntu channel. there are many pdf readers available for linux that do not involve DRM or cracking it
[02:22] <zarephath> natun, mplayer, kaffeine
[02:22] <ogami1972> ROCK!
[02:23] <Eleaf> zarephath, I don't like kaffeine, could never get it to play anything on ppc.
[02:23] <HymnToLife> protocol1> nothing AFAIK
[02:23] <Eleaf> zarephath, I use gxine or something..
[02:23] <HymnToLife> here it works fine without configuring nything
[02:23] <zarephath> Eleaf: Kewl thanks
[02:23] <ogami1972> to anyone who has been following, i solved my flash sound problem by adding my soundcard module to the top of the list
[02:23] <Eleaf> mplayer might work well, haven't tried it much with ppc though ;p
[02:23] <protocol1> cool
[02:23] <Thinkl00p> which sources should I put so I can get the new software versions like for firefox etc... obviously not the ones for Breezy Badger?
[02:24] <Ap4ch3> firefox does its own updates from version 1.5
[02:24] <HymnToLife> !tell Thinkl00p about ff1.5
[02:25] <cratel> !tell cratel about ff1.5
[02:25] <lgc> nalioth, you sound almost religious! The thing is that I am forced to used "#$#" Acrobat Reader, which was a pain to install (maybe you'd like to know it doesn't install meaningfully from the Ubuntu (on topic, I guess) apt sources).
[02:26] <zarephath> Eleaf: Yeah that did it....I can't believe all those others don't work correctly....it sucks
[02:26] <Eleaf> zarephath, ;)
[02:27] <LathropWells> patience lgc. being short with the moderator isn't likely to help. - grin
[02:28] <Drasla> hey, does anyone know a command to open a new terminal window, execute some commands, then leave the window open?
[02:29] <tspier2> If you are using the regular terminal, go File/Open Terminal/Default, and it will open the terminal in a new window.
[02:29] <tspier2> It will stay open, unless you click the x. ;)
[02:30] <cafuego> or hit ^d a few times (pending $IGNOREEOF) or type 'exit'
[02:30] <bheung> Drasla: you can also run some custom commands through the profile menu
[02:30] <Drasla> i'm looking for a command to di it though.  like, gnome-terminal will open a new window
[02:30] <Drasla> and gnome-terminal --command="something" will open a new terminal and execute the commands
[02:30] <lgc> LathropWells, it's nothing personal. I like the guy. Only thing is that I don't get any clue of what I am asking but I do get sort of a reprimand for daring to air my question. But you see, it DOES go back to an Ubuntu issue.
[02:30] <Drasla> but then it closes the window after the commands have executed
[02:31] <Xenguy> dosemu question: is it necessary to have DOS installed somewhere in order to use 'dosemu' ?
[02:32] <void^> no
[02:32] <bheung> Drasla: I haven't tried this.. but looking at the man page, you can open "gnome-terminal --window-with-profile=PROFILENAME" and set a custom profile that executes a command?
[02:32] <amgad> guys, how can i show hidden files burned on a cd with windows??
[02:32] <cafuego> zarephath: People should care about acroread though.
[02:32] <DewDude> ls -a
[02:32] <DewDude> i think.
[02:32] <Tm_T> Xenguy: no
[02:33] <Xenguy> void^ Tm_T so if I want to write a batch file/script and test it out, would dosemu be a sufficient environment to do that ?
[02:33] <void^> Xenguy: iirc it comes with freedos
[02:33] <Tm_T> Xenguy: dos script?
[02:33] <cratel> I use acroread because it is the only pdf reader I could find the consistently opens up pdf accurately. Believe me it was a last resort...
[02:33] <Gareth> hm, a bit unrelated to ubuntu, but can anyone suggest a nice lightweight irc framework?
[02:33] <Xenguy> Tm_T: yes
[02:33] <_sHaDe> n8 all
[02:33] <Drasla> bheung: that looks like it'll work.  thanks!
[02:33] <Tm_T> Gareth: what you mean?
[02:33] <Tm_T> Xenguy: yes
[02:34] <Xenguy> void^: OK, and can I write/run a batch file then?
[02:34] <Tm_T> yes
[02:34] <Xenguy> Tm_T: alright, tx
[02:34] <Gareth> just a framework for connecting to an irc server, parsing etc
[02:34] <Xenguy> void^ Tm_T I'll try this out then, tx again
[02:34] <Tm_T> Gareth: ah, client side
[02:34] <cafuego> Gareth: perl-irc probably
[02:34] <Gareth> awesome, thanks
[02:34] <void^> Xenguy: depends, freedos might have more features than the platform you want to run it on. best bet is to run the same dos flavour in dosemu, or possibly qemu, or vmware.
[02:35] <Tm_T> Gareth: yes, that's one
[02:35] <Thinkl00p> on the site for the new firefox howto it says "# First, /usr/bin/firefox" where do i do this?
[02:35] <Xenguy> void^: tx
[02:35] <Thinkl00p> says modify the symbolic link in /usr/bin ?
[02:35] <_jason> Thinkl00p: it should give you the commands to put in the terminal
[02:35] <HymnToLife> Thinkl00p> you should have the command you need to run just after
[02:36] <Cooner750> How well would Ubuntu make a good web server on a 1Ghz PIII w/ 256MB RAM?
[02:36] <_jason> Thinkl00p: the # signs mean it's a comment
[02:36] <Thinkl00p> yeah but where am i putting this? not in a file right? just into the command line?
[02:36] <cafuego> Cooner750: Just fine, as long as you don't need to serve millions of hits per hour.
[02:36] <yipe> wow, it's so quiet
[02:36] <_jason> Thinkl00p: yes
[02:36] <yipe> and there's SO many peopl
[02:36] <yipe> it's like a church...
[02:36] <cafuego> Cooner750: My intranet box is a P3/600 and it has no issues. (apart from being loud)
[02:36] <yipe> oh there we go
[02:37] <Tm_T> cafuego: loud HD?
[02:37] <jose__> hi
[02:37] <Toma-> havent seen u in a while cafuego :D
[02:38] <lgc> _jason, cafuego, who can I address to tell them there's a problem with the acroread install?
[02:38] <Tm_T> cafuego: I made my server fanless just to find out all noise come from HD ...
[02:38] <cafuego> Tm_T: loud everything <heh>
[02:38] <Tm_T> =)
[02:38] <_jason> !bug
[02:38] <ubotu> bugs are reported to https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs
[02:38] <cafuego> Tm_T: The HDDs are all fairly new and not too bad apart from at boot time.
[02:38] <Toma-> lgc: run "apt-cahce show <packagename>" and look for the Maintainer part
[02:38] <Tm_T> cafuego: my friend sleeps next to 4 rack servers, just imagine...
[02:38] <Toma-> errr apt-cache
[02:39] <cafuego> Tm_T: his choice...
[02:39] <HymnToLife> thins is the only good thing I found in being deaf, ou can run 4 computers in your bedromm without a problem :D
[02:39] <yipe> so um.... hi everybody, my name is yipe, and I'm a newb to linux and ubuntu
[02:39] <Tm_T> cafuego: indeed, server hall under repair
[02:39] <cafuego> yipe: You came to the right channel, then :-)
[02:39] <yipe> :) Good
[02:39] <LathropWells> How do you find out what version of SATA is used? I - II
[02:39] <[photon] > anyone ever used a shared key wep in ubuntu? is there anything special you need to do? My iwconfig says security mode restricted, but I am still wondering if that is the problem
[02:40] <cafuego> LathropWells: Start with 'lspci'
[02:40] <yipe> ummm, I want to learn command line stuff, but I have no clue where to start.... all I can do is move between directoies because I remember the cd command from when I was a little kid
[02:40] <_jason> ubotu: tell yipe about cli
[02:40] <jStefan> quick question, what's the equivalent to dos "vol" on linux (for fvat partitions) ?
[02:40] <yipe> can someone please kindly point me to a tutorial?
[02:40] <Drasla> one more question-- how do you indicate a ';' or '&' character in quotes?  it assumes I'm trying to end the line if I use either symbol.
[02:40] <HymnToLife> !tell yipe about cli
[02:40] <LathropWells> cafuego - Thanks.  (again. - grin)
[02:40] <NickGarvey> jStefan: whats vol do
[02:40] <Cooner750> cafuego: What internet connection do you have?
[02:40] <jStefan> change volume label
[02:40] <cafuego> LathropWells: See what the controller says it is.
[02:40] <void^> Drasla: \;
[02:40] <NsOmNiAc> when does the official release for Dapper come out ?
[02:41] <cafuego> Cooner750: 1500/256 DSL
[02:41] <HymnToLife> NsOmNiAc> June 1st
[02:41] <cafuego> Cooner750: Mya ctual hosting is done on a hosted box elsewhere, though.
[02:41] <NickGarvey> jStefan: you don't change volume labels.. I don't understand
[02:41] <NickGarvey> jStefan: linux has no volume labels
[02:41] <cafuego> NsOmNiAc: June 1.
[02:41] <NsOmNiAc> ok for some reason I thought it was April
[02:41] <Cooner750> Here I've got Road Runner, high-speed cable with a D-Link DI524 (junk) router. here with a Speedtest to Seattle I get roughly 3800kb/s Download, 385kb/s Upload
[02:41] <NsOmNiAc> guess I need to lay off the crack rock
[02:41] <Cooner750> How well will things load?
[02:41] <cafuego> NsOmNiAc: It used to be April 20, but a decision was made to delay release and fix up more stuff.
[02:42] <NickGarvey> NsOmNiAc: it was pushed back, google it for more info
[02:42] <NsOmNiAc> ahhh ok
[02:42] <jStefan> I have a dual boot system, and the vfat partition currently shows the label I had setup on windows
[02:42] <NsOmNiAc> actually I'm on the developer list just found the email
[02:42] <unbuntu> whats the off topic chat server?
[02:42] <HymnToLife> #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:42] <NickGarvey> jStefan: ah I see, you can just use mv.. but I don't know what that would do to your windows boot..
[02:42] <bheung> jStefan: http://www.lissot.net/partition/ext2fs/labels.html this might be useful
[02:44] <calx> does anyone know how to change the default mixer in the gnome volume control..
[02:44] <cafuego> calx: File -> Change device
[02:44] <tspier2> Gah
[02:44] <tspier2> cafuego beat me.
[02:45] <cafuego> Mit a pointy schtick!!
[02:45] <calx> yep.. whats happening tho is that i need the default volume to be PCM instead of Master or whatever it normally is
[02:45] <jStefan> bheung, didn't work, seems they are not compatible with vfat
[02:45] <LathropWells> cafuego - lol
[02:46] <cafuego> calx: Ah ok. I'm not sure where that lives.
[02:47] <IamEthos> how do I know what kernel I'm using?
[02:47] <cafuego> IamEthos: `uname -a'
[02:47] <NickGarvey> IamEthos: uname -a
[02:47] <Cooner750> What's the correct, speedeist way to run a webserver with Ubuntu? Should the thing run in a console instead of running X at the same time?
[02:47] <cafuego> Mit a pointy schtick!!
[02:48] <cafuego> Cooner750: it will help with ram availability, yes.
[02:48] <jStefan> i'm just trying to avoid booting into windows, just to do that...
[02:48] <mlowe> not finding gkrellm to install ?
[02:48] <IamEthos> so the 2.6.15 kernel has wifi built in?
[02:48] <IamEthos> *broadcom 43xx wifi?
[02:48] <cafuego> Cooner750: Also, if it's publicly accessible, you want to run as few services as possible, certainly not things it doesn't NEED to run (just for security sake)
[02:48] <cafuego> IamEthos: yes
[02:48] <cafuego> !bcm43xx
[02:48] <ubotu> To use your broadcom or airport extreme card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx for info and firmware.
[02:48] <yipe> wow, you guys just have questions lobbed at you left and right
[02:49] <cafuego> yipe: Yeh, most of them are the same over & ove,r so ubotu has memorised responses ;-)
[02:49] <yipe> cool
[02:49] <yipe> yeah he messaged me
[02:49] <Cooner750> It would be open only to the people that know the IP, obviously
[02:49] <yipe> and he did not pass my turing test:-P
[02:49] <cafuego> Cooner750: Well, and whoever portscanned you that day ;-)
[02:50] <cafuego> yipe: Oh, he's a retard, surely. <heh>
[02:50] <yipe> :) hehe
[02:50] <Cooner750> Well... I'm behind a router, so if only port 80 is forwarded shouldnt it be safe?
[02:50] <cafuego> but say idiot savant, perfect memory recall ;-)
[02:50] <jStefan> NickGarvey, how would moving help?
[02:50] <yipe> hehe
[02:50] <cafuego> Cooner750: Unless the router has a bug you don't know about...
[02:51] <void^> it's amazing how many people fire dumb scripts at random webserves on dialup lines :)
[02:51] <bosco> how do i figure out my mac address in ubuntu
[02:51] <Xenguy> void^ Tm_T Hrm, not too impressive so far - dosemu segfaults with a default installation, and that *after* I had to figure out I needed the freedos package manually installed separately :-/
[02:51] <cafuego> bosco: 'ifconfig'
[02:51] <bur[n] er> bosco: ifconfig -a
[02:51] <Cooner750> I'm about to go move the PIII back over next to the router and stuff and boot it up
[02:51] <bur[n] er> bosco: yeah, disregard the -a
[02:52] <Cooner750> it sits on the floor and the monitor is squeezed between two shelves
[02:52] <Multipel> Can somebody please help me with a problem?
[02:52] <HymnToLife> !helpme
[02:52] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[02:53] <ukmh> hi all
[02:53] <Multipel> !helpme
[02:53] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[02:53] <jStefan> maybe I should re-phrase the question
[02:53] <jStefan> how can I change the drive labels shown in "Places - Computer"
[02:53] <Multipel> I will, but I'm trying to do it, but my English is bad.
[02:54] <IamEthos> okay
[02:54] <IamEthos> the panel with my application menu seems to have crashed in KDE
[02:54] <_jason> Multipel: what is your native langauge?
[02:54] <HymnToLife> _jason> swedish
[02:54] <ukmh> can anyone help? i'm tryin to find & figure out how to install a codec pack on ubuntu.
[02:54] <HymnToLife> !se
[02:54] <ubotu> from memory, se is Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[02:54] <cafuego> Multipel: Like 'Filesystem' ?
[02:54] <cafuego> eh, jStefan Like 'Filesystem' ?
[02:54] <bosco> how do i figure out my mac address in ubuntu
[02:54] <cafuego> Multipel: never mind
[02:54] <crimsun> bosco: ifconfig
[02:54] <cafuego> bosco: open a terminal, type 'ifconfig'
[02:55] <_jason> HymnToLife: you really confused me :)
[02:55] <HymnToLife> !no se is <reply> Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[02:55] <ubotu> okay, HymnToLife
[02:55] <Multipel> cafuego: No. It's coming.
[02:55] <HymnToLife> _jason> right click rules :p
[02:55] <Multipel> How long does it take for you to extract files?
[02:55] <jStefan> cafuego, a vfat partition i have there, currently named "fatty"
[02:55] <cafuego> jStefan: Changing the partition label ought to do it.
[02:55] <tanlaan> hey all
[02:55] <Multipel> Please tell your filesystem, how big the file is, how long it took.
[02:56] <tanlaan> i need some software suggestions
[02:56] <tanlaan> i want a good media player
[02:56] <tanlaan> and i need some image organizing software
[02:56] <yipe> I use amarok, if that helps
[02:56] <HymnToLife> !tell tanlaan about vlc
[02:56] <cafuego> tanlaan: vlc or mplayer seem nice.
[02:56] <jStefan> I tried right-clicking and using rename, but that didnt work
[02:56] <yipe> << wants to be helpful
[02:56] <tanlaan> like i want to make a digital "blackbook" on graffiti
[02:56] <cafuego> tanlaan: image organising...? photos? Try f-spot.
[02:56] <tanlaan> so basically make a collection of photos
[02:57] <Multipel> yipe: Try to help me. ;-)
[02:57] <jStefan> cafuego, can you detail on that?
[02:57] <Magnus`> Hey
[02:57] <yipe> hehe, I'm no good, and I took arabic, not swedish, but I'd love to try
[02:57] <cafuego> jStefan: No, you need to use the admin tools to edit the disk label.
[02:57] <Magnus`> Does anyone know why a liveCD wouldnt work?
[02:57] <tanlaan> ok
[02:57] <cafuego> Something like 'tune2fs' but for vfat.
[02:57] <Magnus`> it stops halfway through
[02:57] <tanlaan> f-spot and vlc
[02:58] <yipe> probably burned badly
[02:58] <Magnus`> Mmm I guess ill use a different live cd
[02:58] <cafuego> yipe: woo!
[02:58] <Magnus`> is there a guide to setting up a dualboot with xp?
[02:58] <jStefan> would that tool be included in dapper? or must I find it in synaptics?
[02:58] <yipe> just burn another copy
[02:58] <Multipel> I'm having problem to choose filessystem. I need to know if XFS is fast to extract big files.
[02:58] <yipe> I had to burn a second copy when I used the kubuntu live CD
[02:58] <bimberi> !dualboot
[02:58] <ubotu> for wintel https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo :for the Mac https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[02:59] <Magnus`> thanks
[02:59] <cafuego> Magnus`: Make sure you have some unpartitioned space (4+ GB) unless you are okay to use the Ubuntu resizer, then simply boot the install CD and go.
[02:59] <Magnus`> os[WinXP Professional 5.1 Service Pack 2 (Build #2600), x86]  cpu[1 x Intel Celeron @ 2.39 GHz]  mem[Physical: 248 MB, 27 MB Free]  disk[Total: 74.52 GB, 55.87 GB Free]  video[nVidia GeForce4 MX 4000]  sound[Realtek AC97 Audio] 
[02:59] <Magnus`> Yeah I know my specs suck
[02:59] <cafuego> spammage!
[02:59] <Magnus`> would that be alright to run a dual boot?
[02:59] <cafuego> Magnus`: yep
[02:59] <Magnus`> great
[02:59] <Magnus`> thanks
[03:00] <cafuego> Magnus`: Step one: defrag
[03:00] <yipe> I'm pretty happy with myself, I never did a dual boot system, I was able to switch completely and still do everything I used to do ^_^
[03:00] <NickGarvey> my esc key has failed, and I can't save my vi document, how could I get around this?
[03:01] <jStefan> would ALT codes do the trick?
[03:01] <NickGarvey> I can't get out of text insert
[03:01] <hyphenated> my boss bought me a copy of World of Warcraft and forced me to install windows. until that point I'd never done dual-boots :-)
[03:01] <tanlaan> im off
[03:01] <tanlaan> bye all
[03:01] <NickGarvey> let me try
[03:01] <bimberi> NickGarvey: <ctrl>[
[03:01] <lgc> Toma-, thanks. I just wrote to the mantainer.
[03:02] <calx> im at work right now.. ssh into my home machine runnin bitchx.. wee
[03:02] <Multipel> How many runs Linux right now at this very moment?
[03:02] <Multipel> *Who
[03:02] <yipe> ME!:)
[03:02] <hyphenated> NickGarvey: your esc key is physically broken, or just not working for some weird reason?
[03:02] <NickGarvey> bimberi: thank you :)
[03:02] <NickGarvey> hyphenated: my keyboard has been acting up..
[03:02] <bimberi> NickGarvey: np :)
[03:02] <revAndrew> hey, I just got my cousins a64 machine and I'm tinkering with it and it takes like twice as long to launch the ubuntu live cd than my amd 2100 (then agian his currently doens't have a harddrive in it). Should I be worried?
[03:02] <NickGarvey> I don't think it is broken
[03:02] <Multipel> yipe: Could you help me with a simple question before I get mad?
[03:02] <jStefan> i'm happy i switched my 2nd PC to dapper
[03:03] <NickGarvey> ever sense HP fixed it keys will stop working until reboot
[03:03] <yipe> I can try, but please don't get mad
[03:03] <yipe> I'm no good
[03:03] <NickGarvey> running windows right now
[03:03] <IdleOne> Multipel, this is a Ubuntu LINUX support channel I would say 99.9%
[03:03] <Multipel> yipe: I get mad on myself. Here it goes.
[03:03] <JoeMorris> hummmmmm
[03:03] <NxNxMox> where would i go for help with DVD burning
[03:03] <IdleOne> !dvd
[03:03] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[03:03] <Multipel> yipe: How long does it take for you to extract 4 GB?
[03:03] <NxNxMox> because i want to burn this dvd but i can't
[03:04] <NxNxMox> because the disk is protected
[03:04] <hyphenated> NxNxMox: what's stopping you?
[03:04] <bur[n] er> NxNxMox: using gnomebaker?
[03:04] <venin> audio codec family in mplayer, what should it be set to?
[03:04] <Multipel> IdleOne: But nobody sees my question.
[03:04] <NxNxMox> Oh nothing is wrong system wise
[03:04] <bur[n] er> NxNxMox: aww... you want to copy a dvd... that's different ;)
[03:04] <NickGarvey> Multipel: depends on your processor.. I'd think 10 minutes max..
[03:04] <NxNxMox> Yes
[03:04] <zido> what would be a good program in Linux for making a gif-animation from a series of PNG/JPG pictures?
[03:04] <yipe> gee, I have no idea:(
[03:04] <yipe> sorry
[03:04] <NxNxMox> is there a channel here on freenode
[03:04] <_jason> Multipel: depends on compression algorithm, system specs...
[03:04] <IdleOne> Multipel, probably because it isnt support related...for offtopic discussion you can go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:05] <bur[n] er> NxNxMox: I'm not sure how to do a directo copy... but I use Thoggen to rip DVDs
[03:05] <gepatino> zido: gimp
[03:05] <bur[n] er> zido: gimp!
[03:05] <NickGarvey> zido: gimp
[03:05] <zido> ah, so gimp _can_ do it
[03:05] <bur[n] er> zido: indeed
[03:05] <gepatino> zido: put each frame on a layer, save it as gif, and you have an animated gif
[03:05] <Multipel> I have encrypted my harddrive, but I can't choose filesystem.
[03:06] <zido> gepatino: lol, freeky :)
[03:06] <Multipel> And I want to know if it matters if I choose XFS or EXT3 with -m 0.
[03:06] <gepatino> ?
[03:07] <AngolaHacker> ?
[03:07] <Multipel> _jason: My system is good, and the harddrive aswell but I have encrypted my harddrive and I just want to know if XFS is slower than EXT3 when it comes to extracting files.
[03:08] <eye_am_yipe> :( did I do something wrong? why was I kicked?
[03:08] <hyphenated> Multipel: try it and see
[03:08] <confuzed> Whats the biggiest difference between windows and linux
[03:08] <eye_am_yipe> could someone tell me why I was kicked off? -_-
[03:08] <_jason> !free
[03:08] <ubotu> well, free is Free as in free software = free as in freedom. For more info visit:http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html
[03:09] <_jason> confuzed: that ^
[03:09] <vars> open source
[03:09] <hyphenated> confuzed: all of the differences are big
[03:09] <eye_am_yipe> stability!
[03:09] <eye_am_yipe> security!
[03:09] <eye_am_yipe> and WAY fewer virus's!
[03:09] <confuzed> and we can modify the OS?
[03:09] <hyphenated> confuzed: to your heart's content
[03:09] <eye_am_yipe> yes
[03:09] <IdleOne> confuzed, any which way you please :)
[03:09] <NickGarvey> confuzed: for a newb explaination www.whylinuxisbetter.net
[03:10] <confuzed> lol
[03:10] <confuzed> thanks
[03:10] <eye_am_yipe> hehe, I'm gonna go look at that too
[03:10] <bimberi> eye_am_yipe: 'yipe' is still connected
[03:10] <bur[n] er> ease of use :)  apt-get update && apt-get upgrade == lot easier than going to winamp.com otherapp.com blah.com and downloading seperately
[03:10] <eye_am_yipe> but it said I was "disconnected by peer"
[03:10] <IdleOne> eye_am_yipe, that peer guy is mean
[03:10] <eye_am_yipe> that means someone kicked me off doesn't it?
[03:10] <hyphenated> bur[n] er: or having an auto-update tool built into every program (which may or may not send other stuff when checking for updates)
[03:10] <IdleOne> he kicks for no reason
[03:11] <reiki> that peer guy disconnecting folks again?  tsk tsk
[03:11] <Multipel> hyphenated: It's hard to try it. It takes time to try.
[03:11] <cafuego> eye_am_yipe: No, just a random disconnect; it happens.
[03:11] <hyphenated> eye_am_yipe: it means your network connection dropped
[03:11] <eye_am_yipe> okay
[03:11] <jStefan2> peer = irc god
[03:11] <eye_am_yipe> weird
[03:11] <cafuego> eye_am_yipe: 'yipe' will disconnect in a little while.
[03:11] <vars> can the flash player play the newest flashes in the world?
[03:11] <hyphenated> Multipel: indeed. but your chances of finding someone who's done a comparative analysis of both and has some stats to give you is very small
[03:11] <cafuego> eye_am_yipe: Then you can rename yourself and type '/msg nickserv help register' :-)
[03:11] <bur[n] er> vars: no... flash 8 was only made for windoze :\
[03:12] <eye_am_yipe> multipel, I feel doubtful that there will be a big noticable difference
[03:12] <hyphenated> according to rumours about 4 months ago, they're going to release flash 8.5 for win, linux and mac all in one hit
[03:12] <eye_am_yipe> I got kicked out of a linux chan yesterday for saying windoze:(
[03:12] <hyphenated> eye_am_yipe: by peer?
[03:12] <eye_am_yipe> yes
[03:12] <eye_am_yipe> oh, no
[03:12] <eye_am_yipe> no I was really kicked
[03:13] <hyphenated> by who?
[03:13] <reiki> seems a bit elitist
[03:13] <johnny3d> hi.  I have no sound in ubuntu since a recent motherboard switch and ubuntu reinstall
[03:13] <vars> eye_am_yipe, what did you say?
[03:13] <eye_am_yipe> the guy messaged me and he was like "You shouldn't be using words like that when you've only used linux for a week"
[03:13] <hyphenated> eye_am_yipe: well, that's true enough :-)
[03:13] <Multipel> hyphenated: But you can tell from your own experience how long it takes.
[03:13] <DewDude> i'm running ubuntu on an imac..and i disabled GDM..is there a way i can make it turn the screen off? i've been looking at the console login screen for a few minutes now
[03:14] <johnny3d> DewDude, install kubuntu-desktop.  :P
[03:14] <cafuego> DewDude: The backlight you mean?
[03:14] <DewDude> no...the monitor
[03:14] <jStefan2> ...trying with mtools, brb
[03:14] <johnny3d> j/k DewDude
[03:14] <DewDude> i said imac..not ibook
[03:14] <cafuego> DewDude: Making the screen go black means the pixels are *ON*
[03:14] <hyphenated> Multipel: sure. but since the number of people that care about encrypting their filesystems is very small, you've only got a tiny chance that you'll find someone here that knows
[03:14] <GuardianAtomos> Quick question. When is Dapper Drake projected to be released as non-beta?
[03:14] <DewDude> ...right
[03:14] <DewDude> i know that
[03:14] <Multipel> eye_am_yipe: I don't like that EXT3 takes 3.1 GB and I don't want to use -m 0 cause it might be problem. So I'm looking for somethingelse.
[03:14] <hyphenated> GuardianAtomos: june
[03:14] <bur[n] er> GuardianAtomos: june
[03:14] <cafuego> DewDude: Uh, all current imacs are LCDs ;-)
[03:15] <DewDude> this is an old imac
[03:15] <DewDude> 400mhz imac DV
[03:15] <DewDude> it's got a CRT
[03:15] <eye_am_yipe> mulitpel, you clearly know more than me, I wouldn't even know how to change it
[03:15] <cafuego> DewDude: Ah ok, the screen should blank automagically.
[03:15] <DewDude> after how long?
[03:15] <GuardianAtomos> hyphenated/bur[n] er, thanks.
[03:15] <cafuego> DewDude: 10 or so mins?
[03:15] <jadaz87> hello does anyone know of something which is like Flash MX for ubuntu?
[03:15] <DewDude> ok
[03:15] <eye_am_yipe> I'm just watching 'cause I want to learn
[03:15] <GuardianAtomos> I should hold off on the beta in that case?
[03:15] <DewDude> it's been 15
[03:15] <Multipel> hyphenated: But I just would like to compare.
[03:15] <cafuego> DewDude: That's tweakable.
[03:15] <DewDude> or so
[03:15] <cafuego> though I forget the command
[03:15] <bur[n] er> jadaz87: no such animal... you can run flashMX through crossover office
[03:15] <johnny3d> still no sound in ubuntu.  I can barely hear you guys.
[03:16] <DewDude> yeah, well, what i did was i wanted runlevel 3..but couldn't figure out how to change it..so i took the executable attrib off the gdm script
[03:16] <hyphenated> Multipel: nobody will stop you from doing that, but it'll be _you_ who does it
[03:16] <cafuego> johnny3d: IS THIS BETTER AT ALL?
[03:16] <vars> how can i download firefox for windows if i am using ubuntu?
[03:16] <bur[n] er> jadaz87: possibly doable using wine too, though I have no idea...
[03:16] <johnny3d> cafuego, a little.  :P
[03:16] <sx_> how can i get a c-compiler for my ubuntu distribution? it seems i cant install gcc as it needs "cc"...? What can i do?
[03:16] <DewDude> because since i'm making it a "server" i don't want it loading X unless i tell it to.
[03:16] <bur[n] er> vars: ftp.mozilla.org
[03:16] <DewDude> i'll leave it go and see what it does.
[03:16] <jadaz87> bur[n] er oh ok thanks
[03:16] <cafuego> DewDude: 'sudo apt-get remove gdm'
[03:16] <hyphenated> sx_: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[03:16] <Multipel> eye_am_yipe: You can change it when you formate it. You might do even afterwards, but I'm not sure. -m 0 is for not reservations for sudo.
[03:16] <cafuego> DewDude: or 'sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove'
[03:17] <johnny3d> what?
[03:17] <DewDude> ahh
[03:17] <DewDude> someone else told me a way to do it earlier
[03:17] <sx_> thank you hyphenated
[03:17] <DewDude> but, like i said, i can still look on the floor and see the login screen
[03:17] <GuardianAtomos> MySQL 5 isn't listed as a possible package in Synaptic...could I just go ahead and install it from MySQL's site?
[03:17] <GuardianAtomos> Or is it generally not good to install non-Synaptic packages
[03:17] <GuardianAtomos> ?
[03:18] <cafuego> GuardianAtomos: Very bad idea.
[03:18] <bur[n] er> GuardianAtomos: it's in apt... look harder ;)
[03:18] <cafuego> GuardianAtomos: mysql 5 is in dapper, I'm not certain if there are backports yet.
[03:18] <cafuego> !info mysql-server-5.0
[03:18] <GuardianAtomos> bur[n] er, Heh...really?
[03:18] <jStefan2> GuardianAtomos: you need to add repositories
[03:18] <vars> no really how can i download firefox for windows if i am using ubuntu?
[03:18] <GuardianAtomos> jStefan, Any clue which ones?
[03:18] <jadaz87> vars download.com
[03:18] <jStefan2> let's see...
[03:19] <johnny3d> ok, ok.  I'll wait while you guys help others first.
[03:19] <bur[n] er> GuardianAtomos: mysql-server is the package name
[03:19] <jStefan2> you are using breezy?
[03:19] <Multipel> hyphenated: What I'm looking for is "benchmarking" for people entracting files. I would like to know about the files, how long time, the harddrive and the filesystem. That's enough with information.
[03:19] <bur[n] er> GuardianAtomos: prolly universe
[03:19] <bur[n] er> !universe
[03:19] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[03:19] <confuzed> just download firefox as if you were on windows an run it through wine
[03:19] <hyphenated> Multipel: and you're looking on IRC for that? have you tried google?
[03:20] <leandro_> hi...
[03:20] <CaNsA> hey peeps
[03:20] <GuardianAtomos> Hm. I added the Universe and Multiverse repositories...but I don't see MySQL 5.0 in there still...lemme look again.
[03:20] <CaNsA> sappenin?
[03:20] <Multipel> hyphenated: Yes I have without any success.
[03:20] <NickGarvey> GuardianAtomos: apt-cache search mysql | grep server
[03:20] <bur[n] er> GuardianAtomos: update?
[03:20] <Multipel> GuardianAtomos: Did you remove # before the adress?
[03:20] <jStefan2> seems MySQL 5.0 is only available on dapper
[03:20] <CaNsA> i got a drive that needs to be converted into a linux filesystem, while being run in windows
[03:21] <CaNsA> if u catch my drift
[03:21] <NickGarvey> CaNsA: I don't.. what do yo umean
[03:21] <hyphenated> Multipel: I wish you the best of luck, but IRC in general is a hopeless place to look for that kind of thing
[03:21] <leandro_> guys.. i'm REALLY recent user of Linux... i need a quick help to install a software... could someone help me??
[03:21] <jStefan2> http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?searchon=names&version=all&exact=1&keywords=mysql-server
[03:21] <Multipel> GuardianAtomos: Don't forget to run sudo apt-get update aswell.
[03:21] <CaNsA> k
[03:21] <NickGarvey> leandro_: yeah what software
[03:21] <GuardianAtomos> Okay, lemme try all that.
[03:21] <_jason> leandro_: what software?
[03:21] <NickGarvey> CaNsA: what did you mean?
[03:22] <CaNsA> my comp is runing winxp, i have a hd in it that needs to be converted into a linux FS. but i cant turnt he compter off until it is done
[03:22] <leandro_> dont laught (too much) but, i'm only trying to install the firefox.. (new version)... :'(
[03:22] <jStefan2> you will need to check the backports
[03:22] <cafuego> Why not?
[03:22] <NickGarvey> !tell leandro_ about ff1.5
[03:22] <CaNsA> iits all part of the process of cnverting my server into a linux server
[03:22] <Multipel> hyphenated: But could you tell me about your extractingspeed? Say 500 MB at most? The time, your filesystem, cache and rpm on the harddrive.
[03:22] <bur[n] er> CaNsA: u need a windows partitioning tool that supports linux filesystems then
[03:22] <CaNsA> the drives are all ntfs, and need changing
[03:22] <hyphenated> Multipel: nope
[03:22] <Zaden> I need some help installing some packages on ubuntu on a machine that does not have access to the internet
[03:22] <bur[n] er> CaNsA: why not boot a livecd and resize the ntfs and make them linxu partitions
[03:22] <CaNsA> good point
[03:23] <bur[n] er> Zaden: download the debs
[03:23] <NickGarvey> CaNsA: that sounds ugly, how much of your hard drive are you using total?
[03:23] <Zaden> Got a site for a decent selection?
[03:23] <cafuego> CaNsA: The Ubuntu install CD can do that.
[03:23] <CaNsA> my 160gig is nearly full
[03:23] <NickGarvey> cafuego: wouldn't that clear the data though?
[03:23] <jStefan> the prettiest way is to get a cheap 2nd hard drive
[03:23] <bur[n] er> CaNsA: the installer should be able to resize partitions too... not sure about breezy i guess, but dapper should
[03:23] <revAndrew> anyone know how I can delete a linux swap partition on a linux install I'm trying to wipe out (using a livecd and GParted)? It won't let me
[03:23] <sx_> how can i view packages available for download through apt-get ?
[03:23] <cafuego> NickGarvey: resizing? no. Unless you messed it up.
[03:23] <bur[n] er> revAndrew: unmount it
[03:23] <CaNsA> im so nevrvous about it, i dont wanna loose all my data
[03:24] <cafuego> revAndrew: start with 'swapoff -a'
[03:24] <bur[n] er> CaNsA: back it up then
[03:24] <NickGarvey> cafuego: I thought he wanted to format it
[03:24] <Zaden> I need packages for multimedia, some dev tools, and more robust cd writing software
[03:24] <CaNsA> lol
[03:24] <NickGarvey> CaNsA: back back back it up
[03:24] <bur[n] er> CaNsA: defragment first too
[03:24] <jStefan> if you want to be safe, use Backups, or work on a new clean drive
[03:24] <CaNsA> to where i aint got anywhere otherwise i already would have
[03:24] <johnny3d> quick, how to change permissions on dev/snd and dev/dsp?
[03:24] <Multipel> hyphenated: Why? It's a simple thing? Take 50 MB or 100 MB. I just need to know casue a filesystem is better on some things and suck with another thing.
[03:24] <GuardianAtomos> Yeah, even with the updated apt-get listings, mysql-4.1 is all I see.
[03:24] <NickGarvey> CaNsA: blank cds.. anything
[03:24] <leandro_> i already downloaded ff1.5, what do next??
[03:24] <GuardianAtomos> Guess I'll have to risk installing it manually.
[03:24] <jStefan> GuardianAtomos, MySQL 5.0 is only available for dapper
[03:24] <NickGarvey> !tell leandro_ about ff1.5
[03:25] <_jason> leandro_: did you read the private message from ubotu?
[03:25] <GuardianAtomos> jStefan, Aight...I'll have to go at it manually in that case.
[03:25] <CaNsA> im gonna have to bully my mate into lending me his 200gig drive i guess
[03:25] <jStefan> you would need to check the backports repositories, or install from the MySQL website
[03:25] <NickGarvey> leandro_: you get it again just incase you missed it the first time
[03:25] <GuardianAtomos> I need 5.0.
[03:25] <bur[n] er> GuardianAtomos: good luck :\  I'd just go to dapper ;)
[03:25] <vircuser> can someone help a newb with a video problem? i would appreciate it...
[03:25] <NickGarvey> mysql 4.1 is the breezy one right?
[03:25] <jadaz87> CaNsA that is the same roblem i had you are going to have to use Partition magic and convert the driv es to fat32
[03:25] <GuardianAtomos> bur[n] er, Think so? I can try that. What's the apt-get command to update to Dapper?
[03:25] <reiki> leandro keep using your surrent firefox. 1.5.0.1 has a problem where it grabs all CPU ... once in a while... when you aren't looking... should be fixed in 1.5.0.2
[03:25] <NickGarvey> !justask
[03:25] <ubotu> Ask your question and we'll try to answer it.
[03:26] <CaNsA> i got PM, but i want a linux FS not fat32
[03:26] <johnny3d> don't eat red pistachios when typing
[03:26] <leandro_> NickGarvey: yes, i got it, but how install it??
[03:26] <bur[n] er> !dapper
[03:26] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[03:26] <jStefan> dapper looks very good so far
[03:26] <NickGarvey> leandro_: read the page
[03:26] <vircuser> i installed and my screen resolution was at 1024 x 768, i shutdown, and now it's at 640 x 480.  I can't get it back at 1024 x 768 - not an option
[03:26] <GuardianAtomos> Oops. Sorry...
[03:26] <eye_am_yipe> lol, don't eat red pistachios while doing ANYTHING except eating red pistachios
[03:26] <NickGarvey> must avoid saying rtfm... (twitch)
[03:26] <eye_am_yipe> I ruined a nice white dress shirt with those:(
[03:26] <jadaz87> CaNsA unless you want to format 160GB of content to oblivion that is really your only choice :-\
[03:27] <bur[n] er> GuardianAtomos: i sent you a msg
[03:27] <vircuser> nick - at the wiki?
[03:27] <eye_am_yipe> VIRCUSER!
[03:27] <Zaden> bur[n] er: Mind if I pm you to get some more detailed help?
[03:27] <eye_am_yipe> I had the same problem
[03:27] <kark> yaa I got dapper installed
[03:27] <CaNsA> agreed jadaz87
[03:27] <eye_am_yipe> can I PM you? I think I can help
[03:27] <GuardianAtomos> bur[n] er, Thanks.
[03:27] <NickGarvey> vircuser: heh that wasn't at you
[03:27] <confuzed> where can I get desktop mods for unbuntu
[03:27] <bur[n] er> CaNsA: PM == partition magic?  don't use that if you value your data
[03:27] <NickGarvey> !tell confuzed about themes
[03:27] <bur[n] er> confuzed: ?
[03:27] <leandro_> i'm reading the page, for now, thank you! :)
[03:27] <bur[n] er> GuardianAtomos: no problem
[03:27] <jadaz87> bur[n] er what is wrong with partition magic?
[03:27] <NickGarvey> leandro_: :)
[03:27] <_jason> ubotu: tell confuzed about themes
[03:27] <CaNsA> kkk bur[n] er
[03:28] <CaNsA> erm..
[03:28] <bur[n] er> Zaden: i'm not stoppin ya ;)
[03:28] <CaNsA> kk*
[03:28] <Multipel> Is another person willing to help me? I still didn't get any answers? Which filesystem have the best performance on file extracting?
[03:28] <jStefan> GuardianAtomos: i think your options are: going with dapper, install from mysql website
[03:28] <NickGarvey> Multipel: wrong channel.. thats not support..
[03:28] <GuardianAtomos> jStefan, I'll go with Dapper. :)
[03:28] <_jason> Multipel: that question definitely sounds like a thing to ask google
[03:28] <NickGarvey> Multipel: I think I would google it if no one helps in channels
[03:28] <NickGarvey> bah everyone has faster fingers than me today
[03:28] <jStefan> just note it might be easier to go back, with the mysql website option
[03:28] <jadaz87> bur[n] er we are talking about converting filesystems which iirc none of those can do
[03:29] <bur[n] er> jadaz87: paragon can
[03:29] <jadaz87> bur[n] er ntfs to fat32?
[03:29] <Multipel> NickGarvey: That's a support question cause I need to know. I have encrypted my harddrive, know I need to know if XFS is quick.
[03:29] <GuardianAtomos> jStefan, Yeah, I realize that. But, I just installed Ubuntu on this system, so if I completely botch everything, that's fine with me.
[03:29] <eye_am_yipe> if you're trying to do something like say... edit xorg.conf, how do you switch to being the root user?
[03:29] <YellowTeeth> anyone know how i can watch avi files?
[03:29] <bur[n] er> jadaz87: those specifically I don't know, but resizing & moving sounds more foolproof
[03:29] <shane__> !glxgears
[03:29] <ubotu> To display the FPS type "glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark"
[03:29] <jadaz87> !vlc
[03:29] <ubotu> somebody said vlc was a video/audio player that supports almost everything - See http://www.videolan.org/ for more information (VLC is in the universe repository)
[03:29] <jStefan> ok, there are a lot of guides for making the upgrade
[03:29] <Multipel> _jason: Google can give me the answer. I tried for atleast an hour.
[03:29] <bur[n] er> YellowTeeth: get codecs
[03:30] <bur[n] er> !w32codecs
[03:30] <ubotu> from memory, w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[03:30] <_jason> Multipel: k
[03:30] <eye_am_yipe> YellowTeeth: install the proper codecs, instructions are on the www.ubuntu.com wiki page
[03:30] <vge> eye_am_yipe: sudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:30] <jadaz87> bur[n] er his drive is nearly full it whould take a pain stakingly long time to resize a partion 100mb copy stuff over and keep doing that
[03:30] <jadaz87> bur[n] er :-\
[03:30] <eye_am_yipe> can I substitute gedit for vi?
[03:31] <kark> yes
[03:31] <bur[n] er> jadaz87: CaNsA: learn to delete ;)  might be better :)
[03:31] <jadaz87> !restrictedformats
[03:31] <ubotu> from memory, restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[03:31] <eye_am_yipe> excellent
[03:31] <CaNsA> lol
[03:31] <jadaz87> bur[n] er hahahaha
[03:31] <kark> i like partition magic
[03:31] <eye_am_yipe> *does the happy yipe dance*
[03:31] <kark> can gpart resize partitions?
[03:31] <bur[n] er> kark: yes
[03:32] <kark> bur[n] er: like even ntfs partitions?
[03:32] <AngryElf> i still can't get bitorrent to work.....i've got the right ports forwarded to this box, and it still won't connect....i'm trying with a torrent with hundreds of seedss
[03:32] <Multipel> _jason?
[03:32] <_jason> Multipel: yes?
[03:32] <lucki> I need some help installing ubuntu. I get an error. Can anyone help me in a private chat?
[03:32] <leandro_> how can i modify files that have root permission if i didn't configurated root in my instalation??
[03:32] <yipe> yay!
[03:32] <jStefan> anyone know how to change the "volume label" for vfat partitions ?
[03:32] <_jason> ubotu: tell leandro_ about sudo
[03:32] <Multipel> _jason: If Google is so good, trying to find benschmarking on extracting archives up to 5 GB.
[03:33] <kark> leandro_: use sudo
[03:33] <bur[n] er> kark: yes, even ntfs... gparted.sf.net
[03:33] <kark> bur[n] er: ah, then I like gparted more then
[03:34] <kark> bur[n] er: but wait, without destroying the data on the partition?
[03:34] <leandro_> instead of "sudo" can i use something in graphical? (visual)??
[03:34] <AngryElf> does anyone know what ports torrents trigger on?
[03:34] <jStefan> always make backups before resizing
[03:34] <kark> leandro_: gksudo?
[03:34] <lcore> leandro_: gksu
[03:34] <bur[n] er> kark: yes
[03:34] <_jason> Multipel: extracting itself probably relies more on your system than on any filesystem you have
[03:34] <kark> bur[n] er: cool
[03:35] <LathropWells> Oh sure i am ignored here and forced to google.. - grin - "tough love"  learned a lot more that way.
[03:35] <usuario> lug
[03:35] <jStefan> :(
[03:35] <yipe> I don't see your question lathrop
[03:35] <Inazad> How I can format an NTFS' Extern HD (USB) to an FAT32 Disk with somes partitions.. ?
[03:35] <Zaden> AngryElf: It varies immensely, the most common I've seen are in the 6900's
[03:35] <LathropWells> sysctl - is amazing
[03:36] <Multipel> _jason: Are you sure? Cause I'm not. I hate that EXT3 take 3,1 GB when I just formated it.
[03:36] <cafuego> Inazad: format it, delete what's there now, create new aprtitions, run mkfs.
[03:36] <cafuego> Inazad: you will lose all data
[03:36] <jStefan> Inazad you could always delete the partitions, and create new ones, that is, if you dont need the DATA that is there
[03:36] <Inazad> what is mkfs?
[03:36] <_jason> Multipel: no I am not sure, I am just guessing.  Why don't you make a new partition and experiment?
[03:36] <majd> holy crap
[03:36] <majd> xampp is so easy it's almost scary
[03:36] <cafuego> Inazad: Essentially the same as 'format' on Windows.
[03:37] <Inazad> kk
[03:37] <cafuego> Inazad: it created an empty filesystem of the specified type.
[03:37] <jStefan> fat32 is usually refered to as VFAT on linux
[03:37] <Inazad> Can i Do this in window?
[03:37] <lgc> can someone tell me how to ban a user who's gone sassy on a sister channel?
[03:37] <jStefan> you could
[03:37] <cafuego> Inazad: The disks tool in the admin menu should be able to do this in a GUI fashion.
[03:37] <Multipel> _jason: I haven't thought about that until you asked me right now.
[03:38] <sx_> ehm how can i logon a terminal with root in ubuntu ?
[03:38] <Inazad> because I want it will be accessible with windows
[03:38] <nomasteryoda> sx_, you don't..  use sudo -s
[03:38] <cafuego> Inazad: You can do it from within windows OR linux.
[03:38] <houman_zhu> hi there, i need to pass an option to a startup process, does any one know which config file i should edit? i need to pass a parameter to a system service when it starts
[03:38] <nomasteryoda> and type your password
[03:38] <LathropWells> ubotu tell sx_ about rootsudo
[03:38] <Inazad> cafuego, I brb from linux ok?
[03:38] <Rug> Howdy all
[03:38] <Inazad> cafuego, bye!
[03:39] <kark> hey anyone know what happened to that grub boot configuration utility went?
[03:39] <Multipel> _jason: Do you think it's any danger to disable the resveration for root? Cause 3,1 is too much and I'm not comfortable disable it with -m 0.
[03:39] <jStefan> anyone know how to change the "volume label" for vfat partitions ?
[03:39] <_jason> Multipel: I don't know what that means, maybe someone else can help you with that
[03:39] <gn00b> i just installed ubuntu for the first time straight from windows. how do i su - so that i can edit /etc/resolv.conf?
[03:39] <reiki> I swear... I bounce between this channel and another one or 2 and almost every time I look in here someone is being told about sudo or root sudo :)
[03:39] <yipe> disable root?!?! that doesn't sound good to me
[03:39] <_jason> ubotu: tell gn00b about sudo
[03:39] <cafuego> Multipel: If the filsystem is not '/' you can remove the reserved blocks count no worries.
[03:39] <AngryElf> is bittornado any good?
[03:39] <Rug> AngryElf: yupp
[03:39] <bur[n] er> jStefan: use gparted
[03:40] <LathropWells> Oh my.. what is this?   kernel source code "Danger Will Robinson! Danger!" - lol
[03:40] <yipe> you gotta use sudo because ubuntu doesn't have a password for root by default
[03:40] <Rug> AngryElf: I thought I already talked with you about BT and how to use it
[03:40] <jStefan> bur[n] er, will check it out, brb
[03:40] <gn00b> _jason, ty
[03:40] <AngryElf> it was working and it stopped, so i'm screwing around with it wome more
[03:40] <nomasteryoda> yipe, actually its because there is not a root on ubuntu
[03:40] <cafuego> nomasteryoda: But there is.
[03:40] <Multipel> cafuego: Cause that's my problem. I think EXT3 is better cause it's supported etc. But it's hard to choose between EXT3 with -m 0 and XFS.
[03:40] <nomasteryoda> cafuego, ok
[03:41] <biovore> oO
[03:41] <cafuego> nomasteryoda: open a term, type 'finger root'
[03:41] <nomasteryoda> k
[03:41] <nomasteryoda> if i was onmy ubuntu box
[03:41] <nomasteryoda> =D
[03:41] <nomasteryoda> will be in about 4 min
[03:41] <yipe> !tell yipe about command line
[03:41] <Rug> I just ran TOP (for shits & giggles, to see what was running on my system) I have 2 instances of GDM running.  What would be causing that?
[03:41] <newbie> hello
[03:41] <yipe> ! tell yipe about cli
[03:41] <ubotu> yipe: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:41] <cafuego> nomasteryoda: Well, iot'll be identical to the output of same command on any other *nix box ;-)
[03:42] <yipe> hmmmm
[03:42] <Rug> AngryElf: did you leave the console window open?
[03:42] <newbie> I need some help installing ubuntu over a wireless connection
[03:42] <AngryElf> i was using a gui
[03:42] <yipe> !tell yipe about cli
[03:42] <Multipel> _jason: EXT3 always "saves" some percent for the root/sudo, but for a storagedrives that stupidy. So I know you can disable the reservation with -m 0 when you formate the harddrive.
[03:42] <cafuego> Multipel: ext3.
[03:42] <Rug> AngryElf: yes, and you came in here asking for something better.
[03:42] <newbie> I boot from the disc and goto the install it detects my wireless card as ath0 and then it goes to do dhcp and that fails so then I enter the needed wep key and SSID and it still doesn't work.
[03:42] <cafuego> Multipel: You can also set the *percentage* to 0 but leave a fixed number of blocks.
[03:43] <bluey> Since a few days ago, cups started to give problems with my remote smb printer. Stated it was paused, when I tried to resume it returned to paused. I removed the printer, and after removing all cups (with --purge and all) and reinstalling, etc, I'm unable to add printers. The logs state problems with client auth, it seems, and the client-error-not-found error. I changed internal subnet recently from 192.168.1 to 5, although cups should use loc
[03:43] <_jason> Multipel: oh I see
[03:43] <houman_zhu> hi there, i need to pass an option to a startup process, does any one know which config file i should edit? i need to pass a parameter to a system service when it starts
[03:43] <doctor_> Hi
[03:43] <Multipel> cafuego: Is there any diffrens for you in time extracting files in Ubuntu and Windows XP?
[03:43] <cafuego> houman_zhu: uisually /etc/default/<service>
[03:43] <jStefan> anyone have problems with "disks-admin" crashing?
[03:43] <doctor_> any Pole?
[03:43] <confuzed> Why does wine crash so much
[03:43] <cafuego> Multipel: win whatnow?
[03:43] <kark> because it is lame
[03:44] <Rug> confuzed: that's what happens when you drink and drive
[03:44] <harisund> anybody know of good chess software for Ubuntu?
[03:44] <cafuego> harisund: apt-cache search chess
[03:44] <yipe> there's a chess prog that you can get through synaptic
[03:44] <cafuego> !info gnuchess
[03:44] <newbie> !wireless
[03:44] <ubotu> it has been said that wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers
[03:44] <ubotu> gnuchess: (Plays a game of chess, either against the user or against itself), section games, is optional. Version: 5.07-3 (breezy), Packaged size: 91 kB, Installed size: 284 kB
[03:44] <harisund> caguego: I did .. I was just wondering about whether people have used any and what their opinions are..
[03:44] <Multipel> cafuego: My friend would like to know if Linux extract files faster than Windows.
[03:44] <bluey> !cups
[03:44] <ubotu> cups is, like, totally, The Common UNIX Printing System (or CUPS) is a printing system and general replacement for lpd and the like.  See also http://linuxprinting.org/
[03:44] <bluey> :P
[03:45] <houman_zhu> cafuego: hmm, its not there, the process is mysqld
[03:45] <cafuego> Multipel: He should install both and time the results, then.
[03:45] <tspier2> Ah! I finally figured it out. LadyNikon, I had to add DirectoryIndex index.html in httpd.conf in /etc/apache2, and then add index.html in /var/www
[03:45] <bluey> Anyone? Help! ;-)
[03:45] <cafuego> houman_zhu: Ah ok, edit /etc/mysql/my.cnf
[03:45] <jStefan> brb
[03:45] <cafuego> houman_zhu: You can set options in that file.
[03:45] <Multipel> cafuego: How many blocks should I leave? 3.1 GB on 200 GB is too much!
[03:45] <cafuego> Multipel: 100Mb tops
[03:45] <cafuego> Multipel: Oh, if it's your desktop box, just set it to 0, really.
[03:46] <Multipel> cafuego: And which commando does that?
[03:46] <cafuego> Multipel: depending on block size, tune2fs -r <num>
[03:46] <Multipel> cafuego: It's a storagedrive, the "second" harddrive.
[03:46] <cafuego> Multipel: just set it to 0 then
[03:46] <houman_zhu> cafuego: yea found it, thank you very much :)
[03:47] <cafuego> Multipel: -m 0 -r 0
[03:47] <monkey_> Could someone  tell me how to enable my wireless card?
[03:47] <Multipel> cafuego: And Ubuntu won't freak then the harddrive is full, and it won't be slower copying files when the reseration is 0?
[03:47] <Inazad> cafuego, Hi, I'm there
[03:47] <Inazad> cafuego, Can I do the format in GNOME session ?? It's a external HD... ?
[03:48] <cafuego> Inazad: Yes, run 'sudo gparted'.
[03:48] <Inazad> cafuego, ok wait me plz..
[03:48] <LathropWells> monkey_ - there is some info here with ubotu's link. - it may help
[03:48] <newbie> is it possible to install breezy without a working internet connection?
[03:48] <LathropWells> ubotu tell monkey about wifi
[03:49] <LathropWells> ubotu tell monkey_ about wifi
[03:49] <monkey_> I can see it in device mangler
[03:49] <cafuego> newbie: sure
[03:49] <Inazad> cafuego, Segmentation error...
[03:49] <Multipel> cafuego: Are you still here about five minutes?
[03:49] <Inazad> cafuego, do u have another prog tu use?
[03:50] <newbie> cafuego:  how?  the dapper install disc keeps trying to connect and when it can't the install fails?  Would breezy work better?
[03:50] <JImRaynor> where do i find my kernel build files?
[03:50] <JImRaynor> I looked in /lib/models/2.6.12-9-amd64-kb/
[03:50] <cafuego> newbie: That's naughty, it should just install off the CD locally.
[03:50] <JImRaynor> but there wasn't a build directory there
[03:50] <newbie> JImRaynor:  the kernel source should be at /usr/src/linux
[03:51] <newbie> cafuego:  is there anyway to force it to install off the CD?
[03:51] <Inazad> cafuego, u're there?
[03:51] <JImRaynor> not in /usr/src/linux
[03:52] <jStefan> back
[03:52] <cafuego> newbie: Not certain. You should file a bugreport though, so this can be fixed. As for breezy, I am 99.9% sure I have done a non-networked install and it went fine.
[03:52] <newbie> cafuego:  I'll give breezy a try :)
[03:52] <JImRaynor> they should be in /lib/moduals/2.6.12-9-amd64-kb/
[03:52] <JImRaynor> but they're not there either
[03:52] <jStefan> gparted didn't help
[03:52] <newbie> JImRaynor:  are you looking for your modules?
[03:52] <benkong2> hey all
[03:52] <newbie> JImRaynor:  or the kernel source?
[03:52] <NickGarvey> the do not put the kernal source by default!
[03:52] <bluey>  cupsdAuthorize: No authentication data provided. || cupsdProcessIPPRequest: 5 status_code=406 (client-error-not-found) rings any bell? :-(
[03:52] <NickGarvey> you need to apt-get it!
[03:52] <JImRaynor> I"m looking for the build files
[03:52] <jStefan> i hade to dual boot into windows and do it, but i'm still curious how to do the same un Ubuntu
[03:52] <Inazad> cafuego, u're there?
[03:53] <benkong2> I have a T40 IBM thinkpad Ubuntu Dapper and network-manager installed.
[03:53] <JImRaynor> is it already on the machine?
[03:53] <JImRaynor> or does apt-get access the internet first?
[03:53] <benkong2> I can connect using iwconfig etc. but when I enter my key in the nm-applet it just spins
[03:53] <newbie> JImRaynor:  apt-get downloads it off the internet
[03:53] <benkong2> What am I doing wrong?
[03:53] <JImRaynor> not if it doesn't have to
[03:53] <JImRaynor> if its already on your dep tree it doesn't need to download off the internet
[03:54] <bluey> *sigh*
[03:54] <JImRaynor> the reason I ask is because I don't have internet
[03:54] <JImRaynor> I'm trying to set up my ndiswrapper for it
[03:54] <nomasteryoda> cafuego, ok.. so there is a root, but never logged in and no plan
[03:54] <nomasteryoda> =D
[03:54] <JImRaynor> but it needs the kernel build files to compile
[03:54] <newbie> JImRaynor:  I don't think the source is avalible locally
[03:54] <jStefan> i removed the volume label on windows, and now it shows a generic name "8.0 GB Volume", now how do i do the renaming on Ubuntu ?
[03:54] <dli> my xmms doesn't play audio cd, which package to install for xmms-cd
[03:54] <JImRaynor> I"m sortof in a catch 22 here
[03:55] <newbie> JImRaynor:  do you have a USB Flash drive?
[03:55] <JImRaynor> no
[03:55] <JImRaynor> nor a cd burner
[03:55] <dli> JImRaynor, apt-get install kernel-package
[03:55] <cafuego> JImRaynor: Hmmm, ndiswrapper is in-built on dapper.
[03:55] <McJerry> is there a problem with recent xorg? I am no longer able to get the 800x600 resolution...anyone else with same problem?
[03:55] <blindx> okay all. im back
[03:56] <cafuego> !find ndiswrapper
[03:56] <JImRaynor> in built?
[03:56] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package Listing of 'ndiswrapper' (2 shown): ndiswrapper-source ;; ndiswrapper-utils.
[03:56] <JImRaynor> hmmm
[03:56] <jStefan> McJerry, you could check you xorg.conf to see if the resolution is listed
[03:56] <cafuego> JImRaynor: comes with the system by default
[03:56] <jStefan> your*
[03:56] <Toma-> ndiswrapper-utils isnt installed by default in breezy, you need to apt-get it off the cd
[03:56] <McJerry> jStefan: i did, it is
[03:57] <cafuego> Toma-: Does restricted-modules have the ndiswrapper module in breezy?
[03:57] <JImRaynor> bingo
[03:57] <JImRaynor> it was on the cd
[03:57] <McJerry> jStefan: i even eliminated all other listed resolutions and still have same prob
[03:57] <JImRaynor> good call
[03:57] <Toma-> cafuego: yeh, but you need ndiswrapper-utils to get the program that loads and installs the drivers
[03:57] <cafuego> Toma-: *nod*
[03:57] <Toma-> its a real pain in the bum
[03:58] <Multipel> Unmount harddrive is "sudo unmout", but what more?
[03:58] <cafuego> Multipel: No, 'umount'. No 'n'.
[03:58] <JImRaynor> ^unmout^unmount
[03:58] <Toma-> Multipel: 'sudo umount /mount/point'
[03:58] <jStefan> what are your monitor specs?
[03:58] <cafuego> Multipel: 'sudo umount /mount/point' usually does the trick.
[03:58] <McJerry> jStefan: am svideo out to 47" widescreen
[03:59] <arrick> cafuego, I was wondering if yo uhad gotten my message through email?
[03:59] <SFU> hey everyone
[03:59] <blindx> Can someone help me hookup a WiFi connection? :\
[03:59] <SFU> this is my first time here
[04:00] <bluey> Anyone which could help me solve cups issues?
[04:00] <Multipel> Thanks. I formated the hardrive with: "sudo mkfs -t ext3 -m 0 -r 0  /dev/mapper/X" X is the name of my harddrive.
[04:00] <cafuego> arrick: Indeed I did.
[04:00] <SFU> bluey
[04:00] <SFU> i need my cups issues solved too!
[04:00] <calamari> hi
[04:00] <arrick> you that is
[04:00] <jStefan> McJerry, you could try reconfiguring xorg with dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, other than that i'm out of ideas
[04:00] <cafuego> arrick: Still thinking on it, my first call is to keep 'im on the main channels only.
[04:01] <noobie> darn crash :(
[04:01] <arrick> ok
[04:01] <bluey> SFU: did you recently, on dapper become unable to add printers or print to configured printers?
[04:01] <cafuego> arrick: BUT I can be fickle...
[04:01] <Rug> other then running INITNG how else can I quicken the bootup process OR how do I manually edit what gets launched?  /etc/init.d/  ??
[04:01] <arrick> ok , what would be your terms?
[04:01] <SFU> when adding a printer hooked to an ubuntu machine, and you want to add it to a windows computer as a network printer for printing, would the correct address be http://192.168.0.103/printers/deskjet5550 ?
[04:01] <Zenith138> Can someone point me to some resources about multiple display outputs?  I've been editing my xorg.conf, but can't get the 2nd monitor to so much as flicker.
[04:01] <Multipel> cafuego: Does this look good? ;-) "/dev/mapper/20001    192214344    131228 192083116   1% /mnt/20001"
[04:02] <jStefan> bbl, dinner
[04:02] <cafuego> arrick: Ruthless obedience.
[04:02] <SFU> Zenith138, give me a second
[04:02] <Rug> arrick: Hiya bud
[04:02] <cafuego> Multipel: Apart from using the device mapper, yeh ;-)
[04:02] <Toma-> Rug: you can streamline initng with the ng-update command
[04:02] <noobie> cafuego:  does ubuntu have a GUI for wireless config?
[04:02] <arrick> cafuego, I will agree to those terms, I dont want ubotu to go away (ever)
[04:03] <Toma-> noobie: ndisgtk
[04:03] <arrick> hey rug
[04:03] <Rug> Toma-: thanks
[04:03] <monkey_> Hello again I have one more question about installing and compiling programs. How is it done in ubuntu on other distros all I did was type make, make clean, su to root and make install, how is it done here
[04:03] <cafuego> noobie: Dapper Drake does, but it's um... a wee tad unstable.
[04:03] <noobie> ok
[04:03] <Toma-> noobie: and also network-admin
[04:03] <blindx> breezy does.
[04:03] <Rug> monkey_: MUCH easier
[04:03] <Multipel> cafuego: I got help with that. I trust him. ;-)
[04:03] <noobie> alright
[04:03] <monkey_> ok rug
[04:03] <Rug> monkey_: apt-get install <program>
[04:03] <Multipel> cafuego: It's encrypted.
[04:03] <monkey_> from a erminal
[04:03] <monkey_> terminal even
[04:03] <cafuego> Multipel: aiyee
[04:03] <Multipel> monkey_: Don't forget sudo first.
[04:03] <noobie> does anyone know if I need to use ndiswrapper for a Belkin F5D7000?
[04:04] <Rug> yupp, or run synaptec or whatever it's called
[04:04] <cafuego> noobie: what does 'lspci' say about the card?
[04:04] <monkey_> Hmmm
[04:04] <Rug> bah, sudo is for noobs who can't figure out how to su
[04:04] <noobie> it detects it as a Atheros Unknown card or somthing like that
[04:04] <cafuego> arrick: he should be there now
[04:04] <arrick> thanks
[04:04] <Multipel> cafuego: You know "df" and "df -h"? But is there a df-commando that shows it in MB?
[04:04] <noobie> cafuego:  can't exactly remember what it says cause I'm not on linux yet.
[04:04] <cafuego> noobie: atheros should be supported, but I havn't ever played with one, so I'm not certain.
[04:05] <Rug> Multipel: df -m
[04:05] <cafuego> Rug: -h even
[04:05] <arrick> cafuego, do You wish him to be op in the channel??
[04:05] <noobie> alright
[04:05] <cafuego> arrick: No!
[04:05] <arrick> ok
[04:05] <arrick> just wndering
[04:05] <cafuego> arrick: Never op bots with security holes ;-)
[04:05] <arrick> oh ok
[04:05] <arrick> thanks fro the tip
[04:06] <Rug> How do I enable antialiasing in xterm ?
[04:06] <Rug> irssi & MC look like shite
[04:06] <venin> the gamma on the video player Totem is way too high.. how to fix?
[04:07] <Rug> venin: put on sunglasses
[04:07] <venin> cute
[04:07] <yipe> what is the command to play an MP3 from the command line?
[04:07] <Rug> =) sorry
[04:07] <Multipel> Rug: Thanks. It worked fine!
[04:07] <Rug> np
[04:07] <monkey_> ok Ive downloaded the program I need to install and it keeps telling me that it cant find it
[04:07] <confuzed> What plays mp3's?
[04:07] <Rug> See that Ops, I can be more then just annoying
[04:08] <Zaden> I need some help installing apps on a pc with no internet connection
[04:08] <noobie> confuzed:  bmp, bmpx, xmms
[04:08] <confuzed> xmms doesn't work with Unbuntu does it?
[04:08] <Multipel> cafuego: Thanks for your help tonight. Now I hope this works fine for me.
[04:08] <p47ch> someone knows why when I have run compiz I can't open some aplications like amsn and limewire ?
[04:08] <noobie> confuzed:  yes it does
[04:08] <yipe> I had trouble with xmms
[04:08] <blindx> Can someone help me hook up my Wireless connection?
[04:09] <Installer36> What do I type in the terminal to get the amount of memory installed on machine..eg..256or 512.  ?
[04:09] <noobie> ubotu tell blindx about wireless
[04:09] <confuzed> Use Linksys, it autodetects
[04:09] <blindx> noobie: i already have that
[04:09] <Multipel> Installer36: free?
[04:09] <blindx> and confuzed: im using linksys
[04:09] <Installer36> Total
[04:09] <noobie> blindx:  ok what model of card?
[04:09] <Zaden> Where can I download packages to burn to cd to install on another machine?
[04:09] <blindx> wmp54g
[04:09] <confuzed> well system/administration/networking
[04:09] <blindx> it's already installed. and config'd
[04:10] <Multipel> Installer36: But I think you can see totalt too.
[04:10] <_jason> Zaden: packages.ubuntu.com, make sure you get all the dependencies
[04:10] <confuzed> your ssid is enterd with wap?
[04:10] <blindx> i don't have wap or wep
[04:10] <confuzed> but is the ssid entered?
[04:10] <blindx> yes it is
[04:10] <Multipel> My Ubuntu is using 29 MB right now. Thats sweet. ;)
[04:10] <Installer36> Multiple> so what is it..lol
[04:10] <confuzed> then whats the problem...
[04:11] <blindx> confuzed: thats what i'd like to know
[04:11] <ablyss> just type 'top' to see memory
[04:11] <confuzed> wait...
[04:11] <arrick> Anyone: is it possible to install the ubuntu irc client without installing the desktop on my server?
[04:11] <blindx> it's just not working
[04:11] <confuzed> your talking over an IRC (internet relay chat) that means you have the net
[04:11] <_jason> Installer36: free shows you that, free -m is a little more readable, and cat /proc/meminfo will work too
[04:11] <blindx> different computer :P
[04:11] <Rug> arrick: What client do you want?
[04:11] <confuzed> oh
[04:11] <confuzed> ok
[04:11] <Installer36> _jason and Multipel> thanks.
[04:11] <arrick> I wan thte default xchat client that installs witht the default ubuntu setup
[04:12] <Multipel> _jason: -m is gold. I choosed it now. I love -m.
[04:12] <confuzed> What kind of linksys is it?
[04:12] <Multipel> Installer36: Np.
[04:12] <Rug> arrick: I thought you were going to give irssi a try?
[04:12] <blindx> confuzed: What do you mean what kind of linksys? The model? wmp54g
[04:12] <arrick> i NEVER SAD THAT
[04:12] <Rug> =)  sorry
[04:12] <Rug> don't attack
[04:12] <yipe> um, I tried using mplayer from the command line.... and it's just kinda stuck there...
[04:12] <confuzed> No, is it usb or internal
[04:12] <blindx> internal
[04:12] <arrick> Rug, I dont remember your name, what is your old name?
[04:13] <_jason> yipe: what command did you use exactly and did you get any output?
[04:13] <Rug> Rug has always been my name
[04:13] <arrick> ok
[04:13] <arrick> I dont recall you then Rug sorry
[04:13] <yipe> oh yeah TONS of poutput
[04:13] <Rug> that's ok I am easily forgetable
[04:13] <confuzed> Ahhh, dang
[04:13] <confuzed> g2g
[04:13] <Multipel> Something is wrong with me. It's 04.15 and I'm making dinner.
[04:13] <arrick> got any suggestions on that question Rug ?
[04:13] <_jason> yipe: pastebin?
[04:13] <yipe> I put "mplayer /home/.... rest of the adress
[04:13] <yipe> you want me to paste it here?
[04:14] <_jason> ubotu: tell yipe about pastebin
[04:14] <Rug> xchat requires 'X' so no you can't install with a WM
[04:14] <arrick> ok
[04:14] <blackeyes> hello--does anyone know anything about running a powerbook 500mhz titanium lid closed with an external display/VGA out?
[04:14] <arrick> what should I use for terminal?
[04:14] <Rug> terminal or irc client?
[04:14] <Rug> ahh nm
[04:14] <Rug> irssi
[04:14] <arrick> I am running terminal on the server
[04:14] <arrick> ok
[04:14] <Rug> irssi or bitchx
[04:14] <arrick> thanks
[04:15] <noobie> is dapper still set for june 1st?
[04:15] <yipe> oh.... I already closed it, but I can just do it again to get that info back
[04:15] <NickGarvey> !dapper
[04:15] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[04:15] <yipe> hang on one sec
[04:15] <arrick> i dont like the name of the latter, so i will stick with irssi
[04:15] <tsharpe62> I created a domain name (tsharpetek.com) and a ddns account. I keep getting an invalid domain name error. Any help out there?
[04:15] <arrick> thanks
[04:15] <Rug> arrick: har, not a good reason to avoid it.
[04:15] <noobie> ok
[04:15] <tsharpe62> on my linksys router programming
[04:15] <Multipel> What is the biggest difference between Breezy and Dapper?
[04:15] <blindx> Can someone help me with a wifi connection? :\
[04:15] <Rug> tsharpe62: how long ago dod you create it?
[04:16] <arrick> yeah, until my wife sees the name and rips the cord out of the wall
[04:16] <tsharpe62> about 6 hours ago
[04:16] <Rug> Multipel: Dapper is newer
[04:16] <blackeyes> is VGA out on laptops difficult in general?
[04:16] <arrick> hey Rug according to ubotu, irssi package doesnt exist
[04:16] <Multipel> Rug: That whas tooootally new for me. :-P
[04:16] <_jason> !info irssi-text
[04:16] <ubotu> irssi-text: (text-mode version of the irssi IRC client), section net, is optional. Version: 0.8.9+0.8.10rc5-0ubuntu4.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 831 kB, Installed size: 3124 kB
[04:16] <SFU> when adding a printer hooked to an ubuntu machine, and you want to add it to a windows computer as a network printer for printing, would the correct address be http://192.168.0.103/printers/deskjet5550 ?
[04:16] <Rug> one sec.
[04:16] <arrick> thanks _jason
[04:16] <tsharpe62> the whois sharpetek works
[04:16] <Zaden> Is there anyway to batch download these packages and their dependencies?  This is getting tedious
[04:17] <blindx> Can someone help me with a wifi connection?
[04:17] <Rug> irssi-text
[04:17] <_jason> Zaden: I am working on a script -_-
[04:17] <pinkmermaid> Grrr... I'm trying to play a DVD, and the drive was working fine yesterday, but now it's all: "Failed to find mountpoint for device /dev/hdd in /etc/fstab" but there is an entry for it there? :3
[04:17] <_jason> Zaden: but afaik, no
[04:17] <Multipel> I heard that you can doubleclick to install files in the next release of Debian.
[04:17] <Rug> Multipel: I hope not.  Then more people might use it
[04:17] <SFU> this irc room sucks
[04:17] <Multipel> pinker; hda?
[04:17] <JImRaynor> what is the cammand to create a new account?
[04:17] <arrick> _jason is it in the repos?
[04:17] <SFU> adduser [username] 
[04:17] <bluemermaid> And that was xchat crashing. >.> Woot.
[04:17] <NickGarvey> !tell SFU about patience
[04:17] <Rug> SFU: can to contribute and make it better?
[04:17] <blindx> rofl
[04:18] <Multipel> Rug: I hope cause as you said, more people will use it. ;)
[04:18] <blindx> does that work?
[04:18] <_jason> arrick: irssi-text is in breezy main
[04:18] <yipe> "adduser newuser" command will create a new general user called "newuser" on your system, and to assign a password for the newuser account use "passwd newuser".
[04:18] <arrick> SFU, I beg you to find a better one than here.
[04:18] <blindx> !tell blindx about patience
[04:18] <arrick> thanks _jason
[04:18] <Rug> Multipel: I'm just a grump-old-man, ignore me
[04:18] <SFU> yep, i tried helping like 3 people but htey wouldnt answer my questions for me to help them
[04:18] <Rug> grumpy
[04:18] <tsharpe62> any tips rug?
[04:18] <yipe> !tell yipe about patience
[04:18] <arrick> sfu how about useradd?
[04:18] <bluemermaid> So, yeah, does anyont know what I can do about the Failed to find mountpoint for device /dev/hdd in /etc/fstab message?
[04:19] <Rug> tsharpe62: sorry, how long ago did you say you registered that domain?
[04:19] <SFU> same thing
[04:19] <yipe> okay, pastedin pastebin
[04:19] <tsharpe62> about 4:00 today
[04:19] <hellz_hunter> has nayone else had issues where after gnome power saves the monitor, when you move the mouse and turn the monitor back on, X windows takes up alot of resources?
[04:19] <tsharpe62> but the whois? sharpetek.com works
[04:19] <arrick> tsharpe62, about 24 to allow the dns servers to all acknowledge it
[04:19] <Rug> DNS might not have been updated yet.
[04:19] <NickGarvey> bluemermaid: does the mount point exist? like if it is trynig to mount to /media/dvd, does that folder exsit?
[04:19] <blindx> Can someone help me with a wifi connection?
[04:19] <tsharpe62> thanks!
[04:19] <arrick> !wifi
[04:19] <ubotu> from memory, wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[04:20] <blindx> i have it.
[04:20] <blindx> i need a little more help than that :\
[04:20] <arrick> np tsharpe62
[04:20] <tsharpe62> I'm still a newbie but it's kinda like golf - love/hate thing
[04:20] <bluemermaid> NickGarvey, yes... It worked fine just fine yesterday.
[04:20] <NickGarvey> bluemermaid: so the folder is there?
[04:20] <Rug> tsharpe62: atleast with linux, you don't need to worry about strokes
[04:20] <SFU> when using cups to share a printer hooked to an ubuntu machine, would you add hte printer on a windows station as http://192.168.0.103/printers/deskjet5550 ?
[04:21] <jStefan> !tell jStefan about patience
[04:21] <yipe> are you kidding, stroking is my favorite use for linux!
[04:21] <bluemermaid> NickGarvey, Yes, it's there.
[04:21] <yipe> I can go to porn sites and not worry about virus's!:P
[04:21] <Rug> yipe: gross
[04:21] <yipe> jk
[04:21] <creed205> hi guys... anyone been able to play dvr-ms files in ubuntu?
[04:21] <yipe> sorry
[04:21] <tsharpe62> Can I move forward with setting up Apache even though my domain isn't active yet?
[04:21] <yipe> << immature
[04:21] <blackeyes> anyone know anything about external displays on powerbooks?
[04:21] <NickGarvey> bluemermaid: pastebin your fstab file please
[04:21] <Rug> tsharpe62: yupp
[04:21] <SFU> tsharpe62, yes
[04:21] <jStefan> !tell jStefan about vfat
[04:22] <Multipel> Is it hard to install a tv-kort in Linux?
[04:22] <SFU> tsharpe62, youll be able to use your ip to connect to it
[04:22] <NickGarvey> !tvcard
[04:22] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, NickGarvey
[04:22] <arrick> hey Rug care to help me set up irssi?
[04:22] <blindx> can someone give me some detailed help with a wifi connection? :\\
[04:22] <NickGarvey> !tv-card
[04:22] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, NickGarvey
[04:22] <noobie> is the file I need for ndiswrapper a *.inf?
[04:22] <Multipel> I'm concered about it, but I might put it in a Windows computer.
[04:22] <arrick> NickGarvey, !tvicard
[04:22] <Multipel> !tvcard
[04:22] <NickGarvey> arrick: ha there we go
[04:22] <Rug> setup?  egads, all i've ever done with it is install and run.  No setup
[04:22] <bluemermaid> NickGarvey, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12062
[04:23] <dli> which package to play audio cd
[04:23] <arrick> ok
[04:23] <SFU> when using cups to share a printer hooked to an ubuntu machine, would you add hte printer on a windows station as http://192.168.0.103/printers/deskjet5550 ?
[04:23] <poningru> blackeyes: what about it?
[04:23] <NickGarvey> arrick: wait.. no that didn't do it
[04:23] <NickGarvey> I'll check
[04:23] <blackeyes> poningru: i'm trying to get my powerbook to recognize an external LCD
[04:23] <Multipel> Now I'm going offline. Bye bye mates. :)
[04:23] <yipe> if you're refering to a file in the command line, and the name has spaces in it, do you replace those spaces with underscores?
[04:23] <NickGarvey> bluemermaid: and you are sure /media/cdrom1 exists?
[04:23] <NickGarvey> right Multipel
[04:23] <Rug> SFU: can you browse the Network on the Win-box and see your linux box & printer?
[04:23] <yipe> bye bye multipel!
[04:23] <poningru> blackeyes: oh hmm
[04:24] <poningru> !tell blackeyes about xinerama
[04:24] <bluemermaid> NickGarvey, Yes. I looked in the /media/ folder and it's there.
[04:24] <SFU> Rug,  no, im not using samba
[04:24] <NickGarvey> bluemermaid: can you think of any sort of hint on what you might have done?
[04:24] <bluemermaid> NickGarvey, the only thing I can imagine is enabling the DMA or whatever, the guide on the wiki.
[04:24] <blindx> can someone give me some detailed help with a wifi connection? :\\
[04:24] <Rug> What protocol are you wanting to have your win-box conect with?
[04:25] <Rug> LPR/LPD?
[04:25] <carthik> Can somebody help me search for a file named 'meblackandwhite.png' somewhere on my computer?
[04:25] <SFU> lpd
[04:25] <arrick> Rug, how do you sign in on irssi?
[04:25] <gn00b> what is the latest php for ubuntu? i just tried 'sudo apt-get install php4'
[04:25] <creed205> blindx - not an expert at all but I installed a program called network manager
[04:25] <crimsun> !info php5
[04:25] <ubotu> php5: (server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (meta-package)), section web, is optional. Version: 5.0.5-2ubuntu1.2 (breezy), Packaged size: 1 kB, Installed size: 20 kB
[04:25] <SFU> php5 is the newest php
[04:25] <blindx> nm-applet creed205?
[04:25] <Rug> at the prompt:    /server irc.freenode.net   (to get here)
[04:25] <blackeyes> poningru: is xinerama for x86 only?
[04:25] <gn00b> Doh!
[04:25] <Rug> arrick: then type /j (channel)
[04:26] <Rug> arrick: that's short for join
[04:26] <tonyyarusso> yipe: That would be good practice to rename them to, but referring to a file that is like that you escape the whitespace with a \, like File\ name\ with\ spaces.
[04:26] <arrick> ok
[04:26] <babo> On the scale of things, how bad/good is a server with a 2.4GHz Celeron chip ?
[04:26] <NickGarvey> bluemermaid: try turning it off.. not sure why that would matter but maybe
[04:26] <creed205> blindx - under ubuntu I think so... I have kubuntu dapper installed so it's network-manager-kde for me
[04:26] <Rug> babo: what do you want to use it for?
[04:26] <_jason> arrick: irssi.org docs have a good starter guide
[04:26] <anandrd> exit
[04:26] <babo> Rug: basic LAMP server ...
[04:27] <SFU> does anyone know of a good wiki for cups?
[04:27] <blindx> I tried to install that.
[04:27] <Rug> how many hit's/hour?
[04:27] <conhe> oO
[04:27] <arrick> _jason, reading now
[04:27] <yipe> okay thank you tony
[04:27] <arrick> thanks
[04:27] <Rug> babo: How much traffic will that box see?
[04:27] <blindx> Is there a way to use my phone as a dialup modem for ubuntu? I could in windows, it wouldn't be the same drivers, would it?
[04:27] <yipe> so "Yoshida Brothers - RISING.mp3" would be "Yoshida\Brothers\-\RISING.mp3"?
[04:28] <babo> Rug: not a huge amount I'd imagine ... at least for the start anyway
[04:28] <creed205> blindx - not sure
[04:28] <creed205> :(
[04:28] <Rug> home or business use?
[04:28] <blindx> yipe: "Yoshida Brothers - RISING.mp3" would be "Yoshida\ Brothers\ -\ RISING.mp3"
[04:28] <SFU> does anyone know of a good wiki for cups so i can share an ubuntu printer with a windows comp?
[04:28] <blindx> you're escaping the space, not replacing it.
[04:28] <yipe> okay
[04:28] <yipe> thank you
[04:28] <blindx> np
[04:29] <bluemermaid> NickGarvey, Huh, well... It's working now.
[04:29] <NickGarvey> bluemermaid: turned of dma?
[04:29] <bluemermaid> NickGarvey, yeah
[04:29] <Rug> babo: it should be fine, it's all a question of how much traffic it will see.
[04:29] <babo> Rug: more like a home business ...
[04:29] <blindx> Is there a way to use my phone as a dialup modem for ubuntu? I could in windows, it wouldn't be the same drivers, would it?
[04:29] <Rug> babo: It'll be fine
[04:29] <NickGarvey> bluemermaid: not sure why that happened..
[04:29] <SFU> does anyone know of a good wiki for cups so i can share an ubuntu printer with a windows comp?
[04:30] <Rug> SFU: have you tried ubuntuforums.org?  Lots of great help there
[04:30] <blindx> sfu: http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CUPS
[04:30] <spoon> Ubuntix
[04:30] <bluemermaid> NickGarvey, and strangely, it isn't being all jerky like it was without the DMA last night >.>
[04:30] <gn00b> how can i find out the latest available pkg's?
[04:30] <creed205> antother Q guys,... I get an error when trying to access the admin panel for printers
[04:30] <yipe> YAY!!!
[04:30] <creed205> saying could not connect to cups
[04:31] <creed205> may not be installed?
[04:31] <blindx> yipe: it worked? :D
[04:31] <yipe> yep!:)
[04:31] <blindx> \m/
[04:31] <yipe> thank you so much
[04:31] <Rug> creed205:  are you accessing it through gnome-cups-manager ?
[04:31] <blindx> Is there a way to use my cell phone as a dialup modem for ubuntu? I could in windows, it wouldn't be the same drivers, would it?
[04:31] <yipe> and I did it with 5 beers in me!
[04:31] <blindx> rofl yipe
[04:31] <yipe> hehe
[04:31] <Rug> yipe: time to share
[04:32] <harisund> Can ALSA behave like X11? Network transparency? play sound elsewhere? (Just curious)
[04:32] <Rug> that tastes like shit.  Give me the Canadian stuff
[04:32] <blackeyes> i didn't know external displays on laptops would be this difficult--it flickers when I boot but doesn't load anything after that
[04:32] <blindx> that tastes like shit. Give me Jager
[04:32] <blindx> :P
[04:33] <yipe> >.< no one likes my beer
[04:33] <Rug> oh noes, beer-wars
[04:33] <Krhis> Since when did the forums disable searching for guest users?
[04:33] <protocol1> !beer
[04:33] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, protocol1
[04:33] <Rug> Krhis: it's disabled for peak-hours
[04:33] <creed205> any ideas with this one?
[04:33] <Krhis> Ohh... Ok.
[04:33] <blindx> Is there a way to use my cell phone as a dialup modem for ubuntu? I could in windows, it wouldn't be the same drivers, would it?
[04:33] <blackeyes> what's the difference between "Monitor" and "Screen" in xorg.conf?
[04:33] <arrick> hey Rug I am readint the tutorial and it doesnt explain how to connect to the server, HELP pwease?
[04:34] <Krhis> Thanks Rug,.
[04:34] <Slant_Mobile> blackeyes: A screen is a device that graphics render to, a monitor is a physical device.
[04:34] <creed205> Unable to retrieve the printer list. Error message received from manager:
[04:34] <creed205> Connection to CUPS server failed. Check that the CUPS server is correctly installed and running. Error: the IPP request failed for an unknown reason
[04:34] <Rug> Everybody has their own favorite beer, but everybody agrees that Americain beer is the worst.
[04:34] <Slant_Mobile> blackeyes: In some drivers, for example, you can have a single screen spread across multiple monitors.
[04:34] <tonyyarusso> Let's confine the beer wars to #ubuntu-offtopic though, okay guys?  :)
[04:34] <Slant_Mobile> Does anyone know how I empty the trash on a removable device?
[04:34] <Rug> creed205: /etc/init.d/cupsys start
[04:34] <gn00b> !info mysql-server
[04:34] <ubotu> mysql-server: (mysql database server binaries), section misc, is optional. Version: 4.0.24-10ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 3471 kB, Installed size: 8796 kB
[04:35] <biovore> creed205: what are you tring to do with printing..  linux to windows?
[04:35] <Rug> yipe: har
[04:35] <yipe> you can drink your thick, warm, grossness if you like
[04:35] <blackeyes> Slant_Mobile: I see--is there a way to easily add or change the monitor in the xorg.conf to use an external LCD instead of a laptops internal LCD?
[04:35] <arrick> hey Rug I have experienced that German beer is best
[04:35] <blindx> Is there a way to use my cell phone as a dialup modem for ubuntu? I could in windows, it wouldn't be the same drivers, would it?
[04:35] <Rug> yipe: you are confusing CDN beer with something else
[04:35] <creed205> biovore - I wanted to try but I get that as soon as I access the admin panel
[04:35] <arrick> sorry tonyyarusso
[04:35] <Slant_Mobile> blackeyes: That depends on the graphics driver - there is no easy, sure fire way. You'd have to read the specific driver's documentation.
[04:35] <Slant_Mobile> blackeyes: Does your laptop not a device switch?
[04:35] <Slant_Mobile> blackeyes: Or are you trying to setup dual monitor support?
[04:36] <tonyyarusso> arrick: Just thought I'd give a friendly reminder before an op gets trigger happy!  ;)
[04:36] <babo> My (would-be) hosting company have sent me some word documents as my order form and charge authorization form. They want me to fill them out in word, and send a photocopy of my cc ?  ... what ever happened to https ? ... does this seem strange to anyone ?
[04:36] <blackeyes> Slant_Mobile: I would just like to bypass the laptop's LCD completely and use the external
[04:36] <blackeyes> Slant_Mobile: I'm using the ati driver
[04:36] <creed205> biovore - this is a fresh install of kubuntu
[04:36] <Rug> babo: very
[04:36] <Slant_Mobile> blackeyes: The easy solution is to use the laptop switch, then.
[04:36] <jane> jeez awkward moments
[04:36] <blackeyes> Slant_Mobile: what is that?
[04:36] <jane> lol
[04:36] <biovore> creed205: ah, ok..  check and make sure you have libcupsys install and running
[04:36] <Slant_Mobile> blackeyes: The ATI proprietary or the supplied xorg one?
[04:36] <creed205> okay
[04:37] <jane> er sorry
[04:37] <creed205> biovore - sec, will double check
[04:37] <Slant_Mobile> blackeyes: Most laptops have a button combination that will redirect the graphics to the external monitor port. It's usually like a Fn-<soething> command.
[04:37] <harisund> Can ALSA behave like X11? Network transparency? play sound elsewhere? (Just curious)
[04:37] <jane> totally wrong window
[04:37] <blackeyes> Slant_Mobile: I believe the supplied one, it loaded automatically with the installer
[04:37] <Slant_Mobile> Are there any icons on your laptop's keyboard?
[04:37] <Slant_Mobile> Look for one that looks like a monitor.
[04:37] <blackeyes> Slant_Mobile: I'm using a powerbook--does that matter?
[04:37] <Anubis> anyone know how to set the screen resolutions manually
[04:37] <Slant_Mobile> Ahh, ok. Yes, it does.
[04:37] <Slant_Mobile> One sec.
[04:37] <Anubis> it doesnt let me set it past 800x600 and i hate that resolution
[04:37] <yipe> how do I make ls not scroll so fast?
[04:38] <creed205> biovore - when I try and run an apt-get install it doesn't find that package
[04:38] <blackeyes> thanks for the help
[04:38] <biovore> creed205: apt-cache search cups
[04:38] <Anubis> is there anyway to force a resolution?
[04:39] <Rug> Anubis: hack the xorg.conf filer
[04:39] <Rug> file*
[04:39] <Anubis> the wierd part its when i open that file
[04:39] <Anubis> its blank
[04:40] <creed205> biovore - libcupsys2 is installed... how do I check if it's running?
[04:40] <Rug> creed205: /etc/init.d/cupsys start
[04:40] <biovore> ^
[04:40] <biovore> sudo in front
[04:40] <Slant_Mobile> blackeyes: Yeah, use Fn-F2.
[04:40] <Slant_Mobile> blackeyes: Try that first.
[04:40] <blindx> sjgwleskg
[04:41] <blackeyes> Slant_Mobile: during boot?
[04:41] <Slant_Mobile> blackeyes: Just right now.
[04:41] <Slant_Mobile> It should work at any time.
[04:41] <blindx> how would i install my cellphone as a modem?
[04:41] <Slant_Mobile> I don't have a powerbook running Ubuntu, though. My friend just IM'ed it to me.
[04:41] <creed205> biovore - did that - ran ok, but still got the same error
[04:42] <blackeyes> fn-F1/F2 control brightness
[04:42] <biovore> creed205: ifconfig do you see lo interface configured with 127.0.0.1?
[04:43] <creed205> kiovore - yes it is
[04:43] <biovore> creed205: netstat -nal | grep 631
[04:43] <yipe> is there a way to make ls not scroll so fast, so I can read it?
[04:43] <Slant_Mobile> yipe: No. Use "ls | less"
[04:43] <Slant_Mobile> That'll pipe the output into a pager.
[04:44] <yipe> what should I do instead?
[04:44] <Slant_Mobile> Then you can use page-up and page-down instead.
[04:44] <harisund> Why is it that Ubuntu server comes with none of Apache, php, mysql, or even *sshd* installed, and instead comes with ALSA? Doesn't it beat the purpose?
[04:44] <creed205> biovore - wow... I am not sure what I am looking at
[04:44] <Slant_Mobile> (or arrow-up and arrow-down, '/' to search forward and '?' to search backward. 'q' to quit.)
[04:44] <creed205> biovore - can I paste it here?
[04:44] <blackeyes> Slant_Mobile: fn-F2 controls brightness
[04:44] <jbroome> harisund: people can't hax0r your system with alsa
[04:44] <biovore> looking for a line that says :631
[04:44] <blindx> how would i install my cellphone as a modem?
[04:44] <Slant_Mobile> blackeyes: One of those Fns should work. Sorry that I gave the wrong one.
[04:44] <biovore> thats a list of everything lissioning to a port
[04:45] <creed205> biovore - I have a line that says 14631 but not 631
[04:45] <harisund> blackeyes: That's true.. nevertheless. can't alsa simply be removed from the server version?
[04:45] <null_> blackeyes, any way of changing the function keys for volume to chnge heaphones instead of master ?
[04:45] <spoon> sudo sed touch your toes!
[04:45] <blackeyes> null_: I'm not sure what you mean
[04:45] <biovore> creed205: untill you have something in that list that says "tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:631             0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN"  it won't work
[04:46] <null_> blackeyes, the function keys to change volume changes master volume, but i want to change headphone volume
[04:46] <creed205> biovore - nothing like that there...
[04:46] <biovore> so it looks like cups is fubared for some reason
[04:46] <facugaich> hi ppl, I'd like to know how to make an exact duplicate of the GRUB boot disk that is created with Breezy installation
[04:46] <creed205> biovore - WAIT
[04:46] <creed205> I was wrong
[04:46] <blackeyes> null_: aren't they the same thing?
[04:46] <creed205> biovore - what does that mean? firewall or rule of some sort
[04:46] <null_> blackeyes, nope
[04:47] <biovore> netstat -nal gives you a list of all the open and connected networking ports.
[04:47] <creed205> biovore - i have tcp        0      0 127.0.0.1:631           0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN
[04:47] <blindx> how would i install my cellphone as a modem?
[04:47] <arrick> Rug, those commands dont do what I thought you said they did
[04:47] <blackeyes> null_: I'm not sure then, I'm new--sorry
[04:47] <biovore> creed205: that shows that you have something lissioning on port 631 for incomming connections..  you have a firewall up?
[04:47] <Rug> arrick: what?
[04:47] <null_> port 631 is the cups server
[04:48] <arrick> for swithing from one channel to the other, ctrl+n dont work and ctrl+p dont work
[04:48] <yipe> I'll brb, I'm gonna leave gnome and try something from the cl
[04:48] <biovore> creed205: that could be blocking your access to port 631
[04:48] <creed205> biovore - no firewall that I know of, I have one on the internet connection but I assume you mean locally right?
[04:48] <`Xavier> Hey hey
[04:48] <blindx> anyone? :\
[04:48] <Rug> join = /j channel  blindx sorry
[04:48] <Rug> ack sorry
[04:48] <Rug> blindx: sorry no I don't know how
[04:48] <biovore> creed205: might want to look at the logs in /var/log/cups
[04:49] <facugaich> how about duplicating GRUB boot disk?
[04:49] <creed205> biovore - on my way
[04:49] <biovore> might give you more info
[04:49] <_jason> arrick: I find alt+# where # is a number more useful, but those ctrl-n and ctrl-p should work too
[04:49] <arrick> ok
[04:49] <terl> finally! I Have Ubuntu(and Im emulating it in vmware player on windows)
[04:49] <Rug> arrick: sorry that is what I am using
[04:49] <blindx> fine.
[04:50] <arrick> _jason, nope dont work
[04:50] <_jason> arrick: what terminal are you using?
[04:50] <FlannelKing> arrick: it's alt- not ctrl
[04:50] <FlannelKing> erm, no, it's ctrl.
[04:50] <Rug> FlannelKing: =)
[04:50] <Anubis> whats the terminal command to delete?
[04:50] <FlannelKing> (we're talking about irssi?) you can also use alt-arrow keys
[04:50] <_jason> Anubis: rm
[04:50] <_jason> ubotu: tell Anubis about cli
[04:50] <creed205> biovore - this is the error log lines I assume are not helping:
[04:50] <arrick> _jason, the ubuntu server terminal
[04:50] <creed205> sec
[04:51] <Rug> FlannelKing: not with xterm
[04:51] <Anubis> ty
[04:51] <creed205> E [11/Apr/2006:19:29:01 -0400]  cupsdLoadAllClasses: Unable to open /etc/cups/classes.conf - No such file or directory
[04:51] <creed205> E [11/Apr/2006:19:29:01 -0400]  LoadAllSubscriptions: Unable to open /etc/cups/subscriptions.conf - No such file or directory
[04:51] <biovore> creed205: well the logs tell whats going on..
[04:51] <_jason> arrick: hrmm I just switched over to tty1 and it seems to work too, weird
[04:51] <facugaich> anyone willing to help me? anyone who isn't ocuppied
[04:51] <Rug> facugaich: ask your question
[04:51] <biovore> creed205: looks like cups barfs because there are no configureation files
[04:52] <facugaich> how can I duplicate the GRUB boot disk?
[04:52] <arrick> _jason, all the alt p and alt n do is scroll the screen and the cntl p or cntl n dont do anything
[04:52] <facugaich> the one created with the instalattion
[04:52] <blindx> How would one go about downloading a Perl module on a windows box and moving it over and installing it on one running ubuntu?
[04:52] <biovore> creed205: try a dpkg-reconfigure cupsys (or what ever its called)
[04:52] <_jason> arrick: how about alt-2 for example?
[04:52] <FlannelKing> not with xterm? well, with real terminals.
[04:52] <creed205> biovore - weird no? this was an install from CD this morning and I never touched CUPS
[04:52] <zerium> sweet cgiirc works
[04:52] <creed205> biovore - will do.... sec
[04:52] <arrick> _jason, nope
[04:53] <biovore> creed205: kubuntu worked of the bat here with printing
[04:53] <Rug> arrick: ctrl N/P are the only ones that work for me
[04:53] <`Xavier> can someone read the topic i made and maybe help me?
[04:53] <`Xavier> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=156412
[04:53] <_arrick> 
[04:53] <biovore> I had problems with debian testing though.. but its mainly config problems
[04:53] <_jason> arrick: alt-1?
[04:53] <doms> how to add splash image to my grub menu ? i hav download already the xpm.gz file and move to the location of boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:53] <arrick> nope
[04:53] <blindx> How would one go about downloading a Perl module on a windows box and moving it over and installing it on one running ubuntu?
[04:53] <creed205> biovore - u using dapper? maybe that's the trouble :P
[04:53] <_jason> arrick: kick your terminal
[04:53] <arrick> huh?
[04:54] <freakabcd> hi all
[04:54] <facugaich> Rug, how can I duplicate the GRUB boot disk created during installation?
[04:54] <_jason> arrick: just kidding
[04:54] <Rug> alt 1-0 gives me this output:    
[04:54] <doms> root		(hd0,2)         splashimage=(hd0,2)/boot/grub/grubuntu.xpm.gz
[04:54] <Rug> facugaich: I don't know,
[04:54] <arrick> its my server, and everything else is working fine, I can even see what you are writing on it or send to this channel, and I know I am on the other as well, cause I looked throught eh other puter
[04:54] <Rug> facugaich: can't you just copy the /boot partition?>
[04:54] <freakabcd> in suse with firefox  was able to hover the mouse over the tabs, then scroll up/down to go to next/prev tab
[04:54] <yipe> that was fun
[04:54] <yipe> so it's impossible to play video from terminal mode?
[04:54] <freakabcd> i don't have it working in ubuntu.
[04:55] <facugaich> Rug, how would I do that?
[04:55] <freakabcd> both in breezy and dapper
[04:55] <freakabcd> is that some special plugin or something?
[04:55] <`Xavier> anyone?
[04:55] <Gareth> hm has anyone had any issues with ndiswrapper 1.8 and linux 686 2.6.15-20?
[04:55] <Rug> yipe: ASCII movies are playable
[04:55] <yipe> avi?
[04:55] <_jason> freakabcd: what version of firefox did you use in suse?
[04:55] <FlannelKing> yipe: libcaca, for color.  AAlib for b/w
[04:55] <LathropWells> yipe - i think vlc has a commandline player. - take a look in synaptic
[04:55] <blindx> How would one go about downloading a Perl module on a windows box and moving it over and installing it on one running ubuntu?
[04:55] <freakabcd> _jason, don't remember. but its the standard one in opensuse 10.0
[04:55] <yipe> I need more words than that, full sentences etc
[04:55] <FlannelKing> oh, or you could use the terminal to pop up x windows, too.  sure.
[04:55] <Rug> facugaich: cp /boot -R /target/path
[04:55] <noobie> thanks for the help guys :)
[04:55] <noobie> cya later
[04:56] <tonyyarusso> freakabcd: That's probably an extension.
[04:56] <freakabcd> _jason, but it was almost the same version in breezy
[04:56] <_jason> freakabcd: hmm well I know there are extensions that do that for firefox1.07.  I do know it's not default there
[04:56] <freakabcd> tonyyarusso, but that was by default
[04:56] <wolfsong13> hi all. I'm getting a blank screen after the install completes and reboots. any ideas?
[04:56] <freakabcd> i don;t rember installing any sort of extension
[04:56] <Rug> yipe: do you have xserver-xorg installed?
[04:56] <tonyyarusso> freakabcd: Suse probably compiled the extension in for the release.
[04:56] <yipe> of course
[04:56] <yipe> << using gnome right now
[04:56] <freakabcd> _jason, wht extension would that be?
[04:57] <freakabcd> i can try installing that on my dapper
[04:57] <arrick> ok whats the ip for the irc.freenode.net again?
[04:57] <freakabcd> its very very useful
[04:57] <Rug> yipe: then why would you want to watch a movie in a terminal?
[04:57] <yipe> for fun
[04:57] <yipe> and my own education
[04:57] <Rug> 140.211.166.4
[04:57] <blindx> How would one go about downloading a Perl module on a windows box and moving it over and installing it on one running ubuntu?
[04:57] <Cloud_tm> HellO!
[04:57] <freakabcd> i don;t need to move mouse and click, or ctrl-pgup/pgdn for many times
[04:57] <freakabcd> just scroll
[04:57] <arrick> thanks Rug
[04:57] <_jason> freakabcd: well all-in-one gestures gives it to me.  But if you search for tab scroll in extensions you can probably find a simpler one
[04:57] <tonyyarusso> freakabcd: I'd start under the Ts, maybe TabScroll or something like that.
[04:58] <FlannelKing> yipe: check out libcaca, mplayer, it's a package in synaptic.  then you go... um, I don't remember, google for 'libcaca' or maybe juts caca and mplayer, and you'll find stuff (libcaca also has howtos on it's website)
[04:58] <`Xavier> Are you guys just ignoring me?
[04:58] <Rug> yipe: do this then:   in term:   mplayer /movie/you/want/to/play
[04:58] <Cloud_tm> How do you set up a link on your desktop to go o a certain program I installed with WINE?
[04:58] <facugaich> Rug, I don't think that would work, because I should copy it to the disk's boot sector. But i'll ask another wuiestion
[04:58] <freakabcd> ok. from the firefox extensions page?
[04:58] <facugaich> question*
[04:58] <blindx> `Xavier: yes they are :P
[04:58] <blindx> I know how you feel :P
[04:58] <_jason> freakabcd: yeah
[04:58] <Rug> facugaich: Ahh I understand what you are after now...
[04:58] <yipe> rug: I tried that, I go half a second of sound and then an error message
[04:58] <freakabcd> yipe, what are you trying to do?
[04:58] <yipe> play
[04:58] <yipe> :P
[04:58] <blindx> `Xavier: just keep asking.
[04:58] <freakabcd> play avi files in ascii?
[04:59] <blindx> they'll get to ya
[04:59] <blindx> :\
[04:59] <freakabcd> mplayer -vo aa file.avi
[04:59] <facugaich> Rug, when I say disk I mean floppy disk
[04:59] <_jason> yipe: hrmm I never saw your mplayer output did I... I forgot about it.  Got a link?
[04:59] <freakabcd> that will play in ascii art mode
[04:59] <freakabcd> but no colours.just greyscale colours
[04:59] <blindx> ascii art mode?
[04:59] <`Xavier> can someone read my topic and help me: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=156412
[04:59] <Rug> facugaich: you want to copy a a floppy?
[04:59] <yipe> jason, we already figured that problem out, it was because I was using spaces in the file name
[04:59] <freakabcd> if you want colours, mplayr -vo caca file.avi
[04:59] <_jason> yipe: oh
[04:59] <freakabcd> that will be almost exactly the same but with colours
[04:59] <yipe> instead\ of\ doing\ this\ stuff
[04:59] <_jason> yipe: or just putting quotes
[05:00] <freakabcd> i say almost because to provide better colour info, it chnges some chars sometimes
[05:00] <blindx> How would one go about downloading a Perl module on a windows box and moving it over and installing it on one running ubuntu?
[05:00] <yipe> putting them around the file name?
[05:00] <yipe> oh man that'll be WAY easier!
[05:00] <`Xavier> can someone read my topic and help me: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=156412
[05:00] <_jason> yipe: 'filename with spaces'
[05:00] <yipe> THANK YOU!
[05:00] <arrick> Rug, all I wanted was to have my server keep my channel open for use so I wanted to log in with my alternate name from it.
[05:00] <LathropWells> Ah - vlc --help shows a bunch of commands to direct oitput
[05:00] <facugaich> Rug, I have a floppy with GRUB, the one created by ubuntu's installation, I'd like to duplicate it
[05:00] <freakabcd> blindx, you're doing the wrong method
[05:00] <Das|Busy> Is there anyway I can compile a C++ file to a .exe in (k)ubuntu
[05:00] <blindx> Which method is that?
[05:00] <Rug> facugaich: dd is your answer
[05:00] <freakabcd> perl -MCPAN -e 'install mymodulename'
[05:01] <tonyyarusso> yipe: You can also use tab to complete.
[05:01] <freakabcd> ofcourse that recommended only when ubuntu doesn;t provide a pkg for that module
[05:01] <arrick> `Xavier, change your name so we can type it easier, however you bur it to disk, or ssh into your other box and coppy it to the ubuntu box that way
[05:01] <Rug> arrick: geez you like to make my life difficult.
[05:01] <Cloud_tm> QUESTION:  How do you set up a link on your desktop to go o a certain program I installed with WINE?
[05:02] <arrick> thanks Xaviers
[05:02] <Gareth> make a shortcut to a command Cloud_tm
[05:02] <Xaviers> ok now what are you talking about, arrick
[05:02] <NickGarvey> Das|Busy: http://rooster.stanford.edu/~ben/linux/crosshowto.php
[05:02] <_jason> Cloud_tm: right click > create launcher, use the command you would use from a terminal
[05:02] <yipe> okay, gonna log back out to terminal mode and try that
[05:02] <FlannelKing> yipe: um, ctrl-alt f1
[05:03] <arrick> Xaviers, sorry the help was meant for blindx
[05:03] <Xaviers> oh
[05:03] <FlannelKing> (is it ctrl-alt? I can never remember, I'm not ever at the box)
[05:03] <facugaich> Rug, dd seems pretty complicated. Isn't there a way to create a GRUB floppy (I've already done that with some command) and to configure it to behave like the one created by the install?
[05:03] <arrick> hey Rug the way to chang channels on here is to ctrl x
[05:03] <Rug> arrick: you are making my ears bleed
[05:03] <FlannelKing> arrick: no, that's the way to change servers.
[05:04] <Rug> facugaich: not that I know of.   But I don't know much
[05:04] <wolfsong13> I'm getting a blank screen after the install completes and reboots. any ideas?
[05:04] <Xaviers> can someone read my topic and help me: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=156412
[05:04] <Das|Busy> NickGarvey: Yes, but when I use a program to compile the cpp file I get a .o, not a .exe. Or will the program let you complie to either?
[05:04] <facugaich> Rug, it's ok, I'll keep looking. Thank you very much.
[05:05] <yipe> that was the single most bizarre thing I've ever seen
[05:05] <arrick> ok, nothing else works to change it, so i guess i will just leave it on the one FlannelKing Rug. np there
[05:06] <arrick> thats why I have two computers
[05:06] <FlannelKing> yipe: you don't have to log out to get to a terminal.
[05:06] <FlannelKing> arrick: get a real terminal ;)
[05:06] <adamh> How can I install Ubuntu from a USB key (i.e., no CD drive)?
[05:06] <yipe> I used "mplayer -vo caca 'file name' to play a video in terminal mode, and it played the video as colored letters scrolling real fast past my screen
[05:06] <arrick> FlannelKing, so your telling me the ubuntu default server terminal sucks?
[05:06] <Cloud_tm> ANOTHER ONE: Does anyone know the command to open up a file with wine?  I.e. one I can use with Create Launcher...
[05:06] <yipe> and you do if you DON'T want it to spawn a GUI window
[05:06] <_jason> Cloud_tm: wine file.exe
[05:06] <biovore> Cloud_tm: wine filename.exe
[05:07] <facugaich> adamh: Try googling, I'm pretty sure I've seen an article about it somewhere
[05:07] <arrick> Cloud_tm, /wine filename.exe
[05:07] <Xaviers> can someone read my topic and help me: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=156412
[05:07] <yipe> that was very very interesting
[05:07] <yipe> I'm gonna keep that little trick in my back pocket
[05:07] <blindx> When you type "su" it prompts you for the root password, right?
[05:07] <_jason> blindx: yes
[05:07] <FlannelKing> arrick: um, sure?  I guess.  I've never used it.  If it doesn't let you do escape codes, it's rather... pointless.
[05:07] <Rug> Xaviers: remove any USB devices and reboot
[05:07] <arrick> haha
[05:07] <Xaviers> I have no usb devices hooked up
[05:07] <blindx> _jason: any clue why it would tell me I have the wrong password?
[05:07] <Rug> Xaviers: specifically USB drives
[05:07] <blindx> (assuming I'm using the correct one)
[05:08] <FlannelKing> yipe: that's correct.  Make sure you don't resize the terminal after you've started the movie,
[05:08] <_jason> blindx: because the root account is locked by default
[05:08] <arrick> well it will do the trick for what I want so I will leave it there
[05:08] <_jason> ubotu: tell blindx about root
[05:08] <yipe> I have no idea what that means
[05:08] <Xaviers> I have  n o  usb devices connected to my computer
[05:08] <yipe> I'm completely leaving X to access the terminal mode
[05:08] <yipe> because if I do it within X it just spawns another window
[05:08] <Rug> hmm, perhaps an unsupported SCSI controller
[05:08] <yipe> fun fun
[05:08] <FlannelKing> oh.  fair enough (caca gets dimensions at the beginning, and not after)
[05:09] <yipe> oh okay
[05:09] <FlannelKing> yipe: you also know you don't have to leave to do it, you can just log in on a tty
[05:09] <biovore> Xaviers: linux is seeing usb devices plugged into the computer and tring to do a scsi emulation on them as a disk drive
[05:09] <blackeyes> does anyone know how to bypass a powerbook's internal LCD at boot and use an external display?
[05:09] <Rug> blackeyes: you can configure that in the BIOS
[05:09] <Xaviers> Are you calling me a liar?
[05:09] <blackeyes> my ext LCD is hooked up, and flickers some text briefly at boot, but then goes away
[05:09] <Rug> I think
[05:09] <Cloud_tm> Q: Where can i manually navigate to find the fake "C;" drive?
[05:09] <FlannelKing> Cloud_tm: is this in wine?
[05:10] <Rug> Xaviers: you need to chill we are trying to help you
[05:10] <biovore> Xaviers: I am just point out what the kernel message says
[05:10] <blackeyes> Rug: how would I do that?
[05:10] <whyvas> can you force e2fsck to run on the next reboot?
[05:10] <Cloud_tm> FlannelKing: Yes
[05:10] <wolfsong13> I'm getting a blank screen after the install completes and reboots. any ideas?
[05:10] <Rug> Xaviers: does that PC have a SCSI card in it?
[05:10] <blackeyes> whyvas: are you talking to me?
[05:10] <whyvas> or is there a way to e2fsck or something similar when the partition is mounted?
[05:10] <yipe> FlannelKing: if I use, say "Konsole" or something and use the cli from there, won't it just pop up new windows in X if I tell it to open a program, like mplayer or gedit?
[05:10] <whyvas> blackeyes, yes
[05:10] <yipe> that's what it seems like it does
[05:10] <blindx> How come, even after using "su" to identify as root, doing ./Makefile gives me "Permission Denied"?
[05:10] <Xaviers> Whats a SCSI card? (im a noob)
[05:11] <blackeyes> whyvas: I'm not really sure, I'm pretty new w/ linux
[05:11] <Rug> blackeyes: there should be a prompt at powerup
[05:11] <whyvas> blindx, use make
[05:11] <FlannelKing> yipe: not if you tell it to use libcaca.  But, I mean a REAL tty, as in, ctrl-alt-f1
[05:11] <blindx> just type "make" ?
[05:11] <FlannelKing> (use ctrl-alt-f7 to get back to your GUI)
[05:11] <blindx> I'm not familiar with compiling.
[05:11] <yipe> ctrl alt f1 seems to do.... nothing
[05:11] <_jason> blindx: what are you compiling?
[05:11] <blindx> a perl module..
[05:11] <_jason> blindx: which one?
[05:11] <blindx> XML::Parser
[05:12] <blackeyes> Rug: at startup I see the First Stage Ubuntu Bootstrap
[05:12] <biovore> Xaviers: you have one of them 7-in-1 card readers plugged in? CF/SD card readers things?
[05:12] <blackeyes> and then they yaboot boot: prompt
[05:12] <_jason> !info libxml-parser-perl
[05:12] <ubotu> libxml-parser-perl: (Perl module for parsing XML files), section perl, is optional. Version: 2.34-4 (breezy), Packaged size: 285 kB, Installed size: 708 kB
[05:12] <yipe> how use "real TTY"?
[05:12] <babo> My host is in Texas ... do I have to pay texas sales tax ...?
[05:12] <_jason> blindx: in the repositories as you can see
[05:12] <Xaviers> Yeah I got a card reader
[05:12] <reb_> does anyone know how to change keyboard layouts in xfce?
[05:12] <blackeyes> Rug: should I run this command at the boot: prompt?
[05:12] <blindx> sonofa..
[05:12] <freakabcd> _jason, you use all-in-one gestures? what is 'rocker' navigation ?
[05:12] <blindx> sigh. thanks _jason
[05:12] <biovore> Xaviers: thats what the kernel is picking up.. try taking it out and try again..
[05:12] <whyvas> blindx, run ./configure, then make, then make install
[05:12] <Xaviers> I did
[05:12] <Rug> Xaviers: there are only 2 possibilities.  (1) you have USB media (like CF cards attached)  That is what the screen-shot is telling us. or (2) you have a SCSI controller card that isn't supported.
[05:12] <freakabcd> oh, i got the tab scroll functionality. thanks for that
[05:13] <babo> My host is in Texas ... do I have to pay texas sales tax ...?
[05:13] <_jason> freakabcd: umh I believe that's when you hold down a button (right click for example) and then scroll the mouse wheel
[05:13] <babo> oops ... sorry
[05:13] <biovore> Xaviers: what rug said is correct.
[05:13] <Cloud_tm> Ok this stinks
[05:13] <yipe> babo, that's not really the kind of thing we're gonna know
[05:13] <Cloud_tm> Have you guys ever installed a program with WIEN before?
[05:13] <csmall> I try to play quicktime trailers in firefox with totem and I get an error saying I need a codec, what do I need to install
[05:13] <Cloud_tm> WINE*
[05:13] <csmall> I am using totem-xine
[05:13] <yipe> and... what are you paying for? ubuntu is FREE
[05:13] <csmall> Video codec 'Advanced Video Coding (H264)' is not handled. You might need to install additional plugins to be able to play some types of movies
[05:13] <carthik> how can I change the font size for the console tty1?
[05:13] <blackeyes> whyvas: how can I run this command?
[05:13] <freakabcd> oh ok. now i just need to learn the gestures i guess :)
[05:14] <Xaviers> I do plug in a memory card every now and then to take pictures off of it, but I took it out before I started the ubuntu installation
[05:14] <biovore> csmall: what video player?
[05:14] <_jason> freakabcd: nope I am wrong, rocker refers to doing something like left click and then right click rapidly or vice versa
[05:14] <Rug> Xaviers: Why did you pitch a fit when we first said to remove any USB devices?
[05:14] <blackeyes> whyvas, rug: i can get to the boot: prompt
[05:14] <csmall> biovore: totem-xine
[05:14] <Xaviers> I am just pissed cause ubuntu wont install, lol
[05:15] <Rug> blackeyes: I have never used a powerbook, so I don't know how the bootup process goes
[05:15] <blackeyes> currently my xorg.conf is messed up, so if someone could tell me how to boot to a gnome-less environment that would be great too
[05:15] <biovore> csmall: I know h264 work in linux.. but I use mplayer from cvs here..
[05:15] <wolfsong13> I'm getting a blank screen after the install completes and reboots. any ideas?
[05:15] <csmall> ok
[05:15] <Rug> Fine be angry in the corner and pout like a girl.  Don't take it out on us.
[05:15] <biovore> csmall: someone might know how to get the codecs for h264 for xine..   (try apt-get install w32codecs?)
[05:15] <yipe> ouch
[05:15] <bobonthenet> I am looking to get a laptop that I would instal ubuntu on it, where is the best place to get laptops that are not bundled with windows?
[05:15] <Xaviers> alright, whatever
[05:16] <Xaviers> dont help me
[05:16] <whyvas> blackeyes,  use the rescue mode in the grub menu
[05:16] <Xaviers> can someone else help me?
[05:16] <Cloud_tm> ROBOT CHicken IS ON1
[05:16] <blindx> _jason: it's not there :\
[05:16] <Rug> bobonthenet: damn near impossible.
[05:16] <Cloud_tm> : D
[05:16] <_jason> ubotu: tell Xaviers about patience
[05:16] <bobonthenet> I figured
[05:16] <yipe> Xaviers, everyone here is a volunteer, please be nice,
[05:16] <blackeyes> whyvas: how do i run e2fsck?
[05:16] <bobonthenet> there must be someplace that sells em
[05:16] <yipe> also.... we just might not know
[05:16] <_jason> blindx: where are you looking?  Do you have the main repository for breezy enabled?
[05:16] <whyvas> Xaviers, do a cd check, you probably have cheap cd's and it's not burnt properly
[05:16] <blackeyes> oh, i didn't see your thing above
[05:17] <blindx> i checked under.. system.. admin.. synaptics..? or something like that
[05:17] <whyvas> bobonthenet, i think ibm has some in their business section
[05:17] <Rug> This is a handy command:  /ignore Xaviers
[05:17] <yipe> I'm watching Robot Chicken too!:)
[05:17] <Xaviers> I tried about 20 cds all got same prob..
[05:17] <bobonthenet> Robot chicken rocks
[05:17] <_jason> blindx: much easier to use the terminal and do 'sudo aptitude install libxml-parser-perl;
[05:17] <freakabcd> Xaviers, what problem?
[05:17] <whyvas> blackeyes, by typing e2fsck
[05:17] <_jason> blindx: ugh, I mean: sudo aptitude install libxml-parser-perl
[05:17] <Xaviers> Hey Rug, if you got something to say to me, say it.
[05:17] <blindx> _jason: that won't try to download it from the net?
[05:17] <freakabcd> sorry i haven't noticed what you have said earlier
[05:18] <blackeyes> whyvas: I can't seem to get to a prompt
[05:18] <_jason> blindx: yeah, it will
[05:18] <Xaviers> freakabcd, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=156412
[05:18] <blindx> I don't have the net on it, _jason
[05:18] <yipe> Xaviers, please be calm, there's so  many things that could be wrong, we'd need more info to tell you what went wrong
[05:18] <_jason> blindx: oh...
[05:18] <blackeyes> whyvas: how do i get to this rescue mode you speak of
[05:18] <blindx> which is why im trying to compile it on there :P
[05:18] <whyvas> blackeyes, click on applications, accessories, terminal
[05:18] <yipe> how do I use a "real tty"
[05:18] <yipe> ?
[05:18] <Fleeno> Is there a way to tell apt to look somehwere online for packages normally found on the CD? My box is at a colo facility and I can't really go put the CD in.
[05:18] <whyvas> in the grub boot menu when you turn on the machine
[05:18] <carthik> how can I change the resolution for the console tty1?
[05:19] <_jason> blindx: might be easier to download it and all of its dependencies from packages.ubuntu.com and then using dpkg
[05:19] <blackeyes> whyvas: I can't boot into gnome though, my xorg.conf renders the screen unusable
[05:19] <Rug> yipe: hit ctrl+alt+ F1-F12
[05:19] <yipe> right now?
[05:19] <yipe> it does nothing
[05:19] <whyvas> this is before you boot...
[05:19] <Xaviers> yipe, ok ok ill be a bit calmer
[05:19] <Rug> that's a "real TTY"
[05:19] <blindx> i dont know wtf im doing.
[05:19] <yipe> thank you Xaviers:)
[05:19] <tonyyarusso> carthik: Look into vga modes to pass to the kernel as boot parameters.
[05:19] <Rug> hit Ctrl+Alt+F7 to get back to the GUI
[05:19] <Klick_> hey all, does anyone know why ever time i load my wifi driver my computer beeps.. even in console mode it beeps, and i cant figure out what file is making this beep happen
[05:19] <pastorius> hi, i have quake 3 but i can't install it, i have 64 bit processor, when i run setup it doesn't work, does anybody knows why?
[05:20] <yipe> but ctrl-alt f1 doesn't nothing
[05:20] <blackeyes> whyvas: i'm on PPC--does that still use grub?
[05:20] <yipe> it..... has no effect at all
[05:20] <Rug> Try F2
[05:20] <carthik> Rug, I want to change the resultion, not access the console, bu thanks anyways
[05:20] <yipe> same all the way through
[05:20] <blackeyes> whyvas: because I don't see a menu when I start up
[05:20] <blindx> _jason
[05:20] <blindx> You have searched for packages that names contain XML::Parser in distribution breezy, all sections, and all architectures.
[05:20] <blindx> Can't find that package, at least not in that distribution and on that architecture.
[05:20] <_jason> blindx: the name is libxml-parser-perl
[05:20] <blindx> oh. yeah.
[05:20] <blindx> :\
[05:20] <Rug> carthik: hehe I wasn't talking to you.  =)
[05:20] <Fleeno> Okay, never mind. I just commented out the CD line in sources and it grabbed the packages online.
[05:20] <whyvas> if you have ubuntu it normally says hit esc to see the grub menu
[05:20] <bobo> I can't change my resolution via System>Preferences.... What's wrong?? I could yesterday
[05:21] <carthik> tonyyarusso, how can I change it without editing menu.lst so my changes are, well, more permanent and wont get lost when menu.lst is regerenated the next time a newer kernel is insralled?
[05:21] <_jason> ubotu: tell bobo about fixres
[05:21] <FlannelKing> Fleeno: disable the CD repository.
[05:21] <whyvas> not sure if ppc uses grub
[05:21] <carthik> Rug, oh, okay my bad
[05:21] <Rug> ok all good
[05:21] <arrick> _jason, what is a (netsplit)?
[05:21] <yipe> how do I get out of gnome without killing it violently with ctrl+alt+backspace?
[05:21] <tonyyarusso> carthik: It should save all of those things during the regeneration.  Mine's been smart about that anyway.
[05:21] <bobo> thanks _jason, ubotu
[05:21] <whyvas> the solution to that would be to buy a real computer and not an overpriced piece of eye candy
[05:21] <_jason> !netsplit
[05:21] <ubotu> well, netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show.
[05:21] <blindx> _jason: i already have this, it's what i was trying to compile :\
[05:21] <wolfsong13> I'm getting a blank screen after the install completes and reboots. i'm sure it's an X11 config problem but i can't switch to a term. any ideas?
[05:21] <arrick> ok thanks
[05:22] <_jason> blindx: download the .deb
[05:22] <blackeyes> helpful
[05:22] <yipe> or is ctrl alt backspace the normal way to leave gnome?
[05:22] <carthik> tonyyarusso, will try, and you wouldn't know how knoppix does the colorful consoles would you ? :)
[05:22] <FlannelKing> yipe: that restarts X
[05:22] <blackeyes> does anyone know how to boot to a rescue/safe prompt on PPC?
[05:22] <whyvas> wolfsong13, do a check on your cd, it's probably damaged
[05:22] <tonyyarusso> carthik: Not a clue.
[05:22] <yipe> okay, I wanna end gnome and X, non-violently
[05:22] <shredder_> Ya bun 2
[05:22] <blindx> _jason: i don't see one? is it with the other download link?
[05:22] <Double_D> how do i force quit an application that isn't responding?
[05:22] <_jason> blindx: click on the architecture link (I admit it is elusive)
[05:22] <wolfsong13> whyvas: i didn't have a problem doing the actual install
[05:23] <tonyyarusso> yipe: It's not violent - that's a perfectly proper way of going about it.  You can also do 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop'
[05:23] <whyvas> still, check it to make sure
[05:23] <wolfsong13> everything went find
[05:23] <bosco> i got a general question what are some cool things you can do in ubunbut
[05:23] <wolfsong13> how?
[05:23] <yipe> oh okay
[05:23] <bobo> What linux guides should I read before using Ubuntu? first-time-user...
[05:23] <wolfsong13> and i can do a server install with the same disc
[05:23] <yipe> I'm used to windows where ctrl alt delete is the rough way to restart it
[05:23] <whyvas> when you boot off the cd, there's an option in that menu
[05:23] <_jason> bobo: help.ubuntu.com
[05:23] <blindx> I DIDN'T KNOW THAT WAS A LINK!
[05:23] <tonyyarusso> bosco: Set up your own web server, make workspace switching have 3D graphical animations, chat with friends, ...
[05:23] <blindx> I wouldn't have to install this if I knew that was a link!
[05:24] <freakabcd> Xaviers, sory mate. i can't help you with your problem. i've had breezy unable to boot on a laptop
[05:24] <_jason> blindx: yes, yes I hear you
[05:24] <babo> Do you have to pay local sales tax for the state in which you purchase your hosting ?
[05:24] <whyvas> you can with the dapper disc, don't know about the breezy one
[05:24] <blindx> bah, i hate this :@
[05:24] <blackeyes> is there no universal linux safemode type of thing?
[05:24] <bosco> tonyyarusso, i am borred that is why i asked
[05:24] <Aeudian> Hey guys i got a problem i just installed Nvidia drivers following the ubuntuguide.org way with apt-get "nvidia-glx and nvidia-settings" then i enabled the nvidia-glxc-config but when i came back from restarting gnome, i got an Xserver error message and had to rebuild the config does that mean drivers need ot be reinstalled?
[05:24] <_jason> blindx: just make sure that you have all of the dependencies too
[05:24] <freakabcd> both live cd and install cd crap out saying there not cdrom drive!
[05:24] <tonyyarusso> bosco: I've done the same :)
[05:24] <Xenguy> blindx: don't yell
[05:24] <blackeyes> like the command-s single user mode in OS X?
[05:24] <blindx> I'd have been online five hours ago if i knew that was a link :\
[05:24] <Double_D> how do i force quit an application that isn't responding?
[05:24] <tonyyarusso> bosco: 3ddesk is pretty sweet if your hardware can handle it.
[05:24] <Xaviers> freakabcd, that okay
[05:24] <freakabcd> and how exactly did it start the installer/live cd startup? from ether?
[05:24] <freakabcd> heh..
[05:24] <freakabcd> i got really pissed off that time
[05:24] <yipe> aeudian: I've heard that the default nv drivers sometimes work better than the nvidia onces
[05:24] <yipe> I might be wrong
[05:24] <bosco> tonyyarusso,  i run e17 and it doesnt supprot it
[05:25] <bobo> _jason,  will that website be good for any distroes of linux?
[05:25] <tonyyarusso> bosco: Dang.
[05:25] <Aeudian> yipe: does that mean i have to remove these drivers some how or am i okay?
[05:25] <freakabcd> bosco, you run e17 and it doesn;t support what?
[05:25] <Xenguy> Double_D: xkill is one option
[05:25] <whyvas> tonyyarusso, xgl+compiz is much sweeter
[05:25] <Double_D> xenguy xkill <application>?
[05:25] <whyvas> really cool stuff
[05:25] <_jason> bobo: no, that's more for ubuntu.  Do you want a ``I really want to understand linux'' kind of guide?
[05:25] <yipe> someone else will have to tell you that>.<
[05:25] <shredder_> Just try to boot/install Ubuntu on any pc or hard drive you can get your hands on. It's fun and easy
[05:25] <bosco> tonyyarusso,  but i have messed with it in e16 i love 3ddesk
[05:25] <whyvas> you need dapper though
[05:25] <tonyyarusso> whyvas: I'll be taking a look at that later too!
[05:25] <wolfsong13> whyvas: i'm in the options menu but don't' see anything to test the disc
[05:25] <freakabcd> whyvas, no. aiglx+compiz is even sweeter .. works on a damn crappy i810 !!
[05:25] <gn00b> trying to install mysql-server-4.1 and php4-gd2 but having major problems. i have the latest updates, and this is a new install of ubuntu. i also don't know wtf i'm doing either. a good url would help
[05:25] <Aeudian> !nvidia
[05:25] <ubotu> it has been said that nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[05:25] <Xenguy> Double_D: type xkill in a terminal, then click on the offending app window
[05:26] <whyvas> i have a i915
[05:26] <blindx> _jason: now what do i do with this deb file?
[05:26] <bobo> _jason, : yeah
[05:26] <_jason> !deb
[05:26] <ubotu> To install a .deb file: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb  (but note that the program you want might be installable using !apt from the !repos)
[05:26] <Double_D> Xenguy: sweet, thank you very much!
[05:26] <whyvas> same driver i think, crappy as fuck too
[05:26] <freakabcd> whyvas, and you're using xgl?
[05:26] <_jason> blindx: remember: you _need_ the dependencies
[05:26] <Xenguy> Double_D: a handy tool :-)
[05:26] <whyvas> i tried it
[05:26] <joseph> Howdy guys... uhh... dont shoot me - came here looking for some wireless lan help.  Been trying for two days to get my wireless lan card to work under ubuntu.  Belkin card, 10ec:8085 - realtek chipset.  =(  Anyone have luck with this card before?  (compusa branded crap they basically gave away black friday)
[05:26] <Double_D> Xenguy: i agree.  i'll definitely remember it.
[05:26] <_jason> bobo: ok well everything at tldp.org is good and the links I am about to send you too
[05:26] <mechatronic> Hi all
[05:26] <_jason> ubotu: tell bobo about rute
[05:26] <_jason> ubotu: tell bobo about cli
[05:26] <whyvas> got rid of it because scrolling webpages was slow
[05:27] <freakabcd> whyvas, dude.. seriously, try the aiglx+compiz route. its much smoother, video playback is fast, glxgears and other gl stuff shows up, etc.
[05:27] <bobo> thanks _jason  :)
[05:27] <whyvas> wolfsong13, you booted off the CD?
[05:27] <bosco> freakabcd, e17 doesnt support 3ddesk
[05:27] <blackeyes> anyone know how to boot into gnome-less safemode on PPC?
[05:27] <Thinkl00p> anyone get pokerstars to work under ubuntu? think xwine would emu it?
[05:27] <wolfsong13> whyvas: yes
[05:27] <whyvas> cool
[05:27] <freakabcd> whyvas, because you used xgl on that i925
[05:27] <freakabcd> try the aiglx.
[05:27] <whyvas> i'll try that
[05:27] <shredder_> The real player for linux is not real at all, ka ka
[05:27] <freakabcd> its faaaaaast man compared to xgl+compix
[05:27] <mechatronic> ev'ry one, is HT similar MultiProcessor
[05:28] <freakabcd> and faast equats to smooth display for you when you play with the plugins
[05:28] <Rug> mechatronic: HT is marketing BS
[05:28] <Rug> HT is nothing like a multi-processor
[05:28] <whyvas> yeah
[05:28] <freakabcd> yes, HT is marketing BS.
[05:28] <whyvas> they weren't too bad
[05:28] <freakabcd> although in certain ciscumstances it can make things faster
[05:28] <whyvas> a little flickery
[05:28] <freakabcd> see..
[05:28] <bur[n] er> most of the time HT makes things slower
[05:29] <joseph> I am trying to get the driver working in ndiswrapper, via the windows wireless network thing.  It shows up there, but when I click configure network it fails.
[05:29] <mechatronic> Rug: so if I config kernel, should I choose single processor?
[05:29] <joseph> well, not fails - but it doesnt shwo up
[05:29] <freakabcd> you've got 915 with flicker. i've got 855gm and never seen a flicker yet!
[05:29] <bur[n] er> how do you get aiglx goin freakabcd ?
[05:29] <freakabcd> you must try it
[05:29] <freakabcd> bur[n] er, what card do you have?
[05:30] <bur[n] er> freakabcd: nvidia-legacy
[05:30] <bur[n] er> freakabcd: Geforce2 to be exact
[05:30] <freakabcd> ok. nvidia legacy, meaning which card. you'll have to stick to xgl for now. can;t get aiglx yet for you
[05:31] <freakabcd> man, i have a geforce2 on my desktop. and people kept saying crap like you need a new(er) graphic card, etc.
[05:31] <whyvas> geforce2?? ouch man
[05:31] <bur[n] er> i just upgraded to this ;)  i had a radeon 7000 before
[05:31] <freakabcd> works xgl+compiz works great on my desktop. its fricking amazing, 1600x1200
[05:31] <whyvas> i have a tandy that has about the same gfx power as a geforce 2
[05:31] <wolfsong13> so can someone tell me how to check my disc?
[05:32] <freakabcd> whyvas, no you don;t
[05:32] <freakabcd> don;t think geforce2 is crap
[05:32] <bur[n] er> wolfsong13: fsck?
[05:32] <blackeyes> anyone know how to boot into single user mode on mac?
[05:32] <yipe> so, I tried going into terminal mode, then trying that ctrl alt f1-f12 thing
[05:32] <yipe> and nothing happened
[05:32] <wolfsong13> my install disc
[05:32] <bur[n] er> freakabcd: you're using xgl on a geforce2?
[05:32] <freakabcd> ofcourse dudeQ
[05:32] <freakabcd> didn;t i just say so?
[05:32] <Klick_> geforce2 > 7800 ultra
[05:32] <bur[n] er> isn't it crash happy?
[05:32] <blackeyes> single user mode/terminal mode on yaboot/PPC install?
[05:32] <cafuego> blackeyes: in Linux? Wait for the boot: prompt and enter 'Linux single'
[05:33] <whyvas> do you know how to get more video ram shared ?
[05:33] <whyvas> there's no option in my bios for it
[05:33] <freakabcd> 1600x1200 geforce2 64 meg card, xgl+compiz works like a charm. and darn stable too! 3 weeks now.
[05:33] <freakabcd> hasn;t crashed even once!
[05:33] <bur[n] er> freakabcd: using gnome i assume?
[05:33] <freakabcd> well, for a while i used kde too
[05:33] <blackeyes> cafuego: that didn't work
[05:33] <whyvas> why arn't you using aiglx
[05:34] <cafuego> Klick_: a 7800 uses more power than an AMD X2 *plus* two harddisks <heh>
[05:34] <yipe> I thought I was going to like KDE, then ended up not
[05:34] <yipe> < prefers gnome
[05:34] <Cloud_tm> You guys
[05:34] <cafuego> blackeyes: Didn't work how?
[05:34] <freakabcd> whyvas, ooii.. on this 855gm crap aiglx is the only thing usable.
[05:34] <bur[n] er> kde's sftp:// doesn't crash where as nautilus' sftp:// does so it makes the choice for me
[05:34] <freakabcd> xgl is just darn slow/flickery, etc.
[05:34] <whyvas> ah
[05:34] <Rug> yipe: try fluxbox
[05:34] <blackeyes> cafuego: it's loading the ubuntu/gnome graphical screen
[05:34] <blackeyes> i just want a terminal login
[05:34] <yipe> I'm happy where I am as fas as X
[05:34] <Cloud_tm> Im having no luck on setting up the Launcher
[05:34] <cafuego> blackeyes: Oh well, hit alt-f1
[05:35] <Cloud_tm> Can somebody give me the command
[05:35] <whyvas> blackeyes, hit ctrl+alt+f4
[05:35] <Cloud_tm> wine /blah/blah/name_of_file.exe
[05:35] <yipe> but what was that ctrl alt f1 thing supposed to do?
[05:35] <Cloud_tm> Please?
[05:35] <freakabcd> bur[n] er, thing is compiz is a window manager, i.e. you run it in kde, it replaces kwin, you run it in gnome, it replaces metacity
[05:35] <Das|Busy> What's the quickest way to find out system info (I'm looking for RAMtype)
[05:35] <blackeyes> alt-F1 did it
[05:35] <Das|Busy> *RAM type
[05:35] <blackeyes> thanks guys
[05:35] <cafuego> Das|Busy: check mobo specs on manufacturer website.
[05:35] <bur[n] er> freakabcd: awww, didn't know it replaces kwin... thought it was only a metacity replacement
[05:35] <whyvas> Das|Busy, crack the case.
[05:36] <cafuego> Das|Busy: Or tell us what CPU you have and we'll guess ;-)
[05:36] <freakabcd> nope. its a window manager replacement.
[05:36] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Das|Busy: The RAM module should have a 'specs' sticker
[05:36] <whyvas> specs?
[05:36] <whyvas> jesus
[05:36] <freakabcd> so whatever window manager you have running at the moment, it will try to replace it
[05:36] <PuMpErNiCkLe> specifications
[05:36] <whyvas> just look at the damn stick
[05:36] <blindx> I need wireless-tools 28pre9 but the only package on packages.ubuntu.com is 28pre8
[05:36] <blackeyes> whyvas: what was that fsck type command you said to use earlier?
[05:36] <freakabcd> whyvas, what if he can;t open up the box?
[05:36] <Das|Busy> whyvas cafuego: Isn't there a way to check computer side? I could on windows.
[05:37] <Das|Busy> PuMpErNiCkLe: How do I get to that
[05:37] <PuMpErNiCkLe> whyvas: That doesn't give info like timing :p
[05:37] <BlankC> !ispconfig
[05:37] <ubotu> BlankC: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:37] <whyvas> freakabcd, then he shouldn't be using linux
[05:37] <cafuego> Das|Busy: You could try read-edid
[05:37] <bur[n] er> Das|Busy: device manager? ;)
[05:37] <freakabcd> bur[n] er, who said anything about switching?
[05:37] <BlankC> !web-cp
[05:37] <ubotu> BlankC: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:37] <whyvas> go into the bios or fire up memtest
[05:37] <freakabcd> i run the xgl or aiglx server manually then run whatever gnom/kde i want.
[05:37] <wolfsong13> I'm getting a blank screen after the install completes and reboots. any ideas?
[05:37] <cafuego> lm-sensors may also tell you what's in there
[05:38] <whyvas> blackeyes, that's to check your partition
[05:38] <Aeudian> !reposities
[05:38] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Aeudian
[05:38] <freakabcd> most of the time though (on the laptop), i'm on e17 cvs with plain xorg
[05:38] <Aeudian> !Repositories
[05:38] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[05:38] <bur[n] er> e17?  ewww... to each their own though ;)
[05:38] <freakabcd> what?
[05:38] <Thinkl00p> is wine the only software for emulating in linux?
[05:38] <yipe> cedega is another one
[05:38] <blackeyes> does anyone know how to bypass a powerbook's LCD at boot to use an external LCD?
[05:38] <freakabcd> e17 is frickin amazing for me.
[05:38] <bur[n] er> i can't find e17 usable...  it's pretty, but not practical for me
[05:39] <yipe> but.... doesn't it have trouble in ubuntu/debian?
[05:39] <bur[n] er> Thinkl00p: nope... crossover office
[05:39] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Thinkl00p: You can also run entire OS instances in Qemu, Bochs, or Xen
[05:39] <lutra> freakabcd: e17 is pretty awesome
[05:39] <blackeyes> the external flickers and shows some txt for a split second, but then goes away
[05:39] <bur[n] er> Thinkl00p: or vmware
[05:39] <whyvas> vmware is the shit
[05:39] <Das|Busy> PuMpErNiCkLe: I see no RAM in the device manager, though I do see Processer, does it go by another name
[05:39] <freakabcd> huh? i don;t think its pretty. actualy it looks like crap to me sometimes. but don't say a bad word about functionality
[05:39] <Thinkl00p> bur[n] er, vmware makes you install the entire OS inside linux right? I just want to emu certain apps like pokerstars, bearshare, office xp etc..
[05:39] <whyvas> i have to pee
[05:39] <freakabcd> its complete for me. though sometimes i like one or 2 new features they add slowly
[05:39] <bur[n] er> freakabcd: it doesn't have a filemanager ;)  or if it does, does it do sftp:// smb://
[05:40] <shredder_> Install ubuntu on a hard drive with a computer that has no issues. then use the hard drive to test and install the ubuntu os on your problematic pc
[05:40] <whyvas> bearshare and office xp??
[05:40] <bur[n] er> Thinkl00p: your best bets are wine, cedega, or crossover office
[05:40] <bur[n] er> bearshare? wtf
[05:40] <whyvas> use gtk-gnutella and open office
[05:40] <Thinkl00p> gtk-gnutella ain't that hot shit
[05:40] <Thinkl00p> i got limewire as well
[05:40] <freakabcd> haha.. whoever said: if i use kde, i must not use gnome apps. If i use gnome, i must not use kde apps
[05:40] <Das|Busy> PuMpErNiCkLe: ?
[05:40] <freakabcd> think man!
[05:40] <yipe> I couldn't get gtk-gnutella to connect, so I switched to limwire
[05:40] <jon_> Thinkl00p, Really?  gtk-gnutella = the most popular p2p at the moment.
[05:41] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Das|Busy: I don't think device manager lists RAM.
[05:41] <bur[n] er> freakabcd: it's just slow if you don't to load all those libs
[05:41] <wolfsong13> I'm getting a blank screen after the install completes and reboots. any ideas?
[05:41] <freakabcd> if i want to really use a file manager, i just run nautilus or konqi
[05:41] <Thinkl00p> i got wine installed and xwine but she won't install a .exe file
[05:41] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Das|Busy: I think it lists only more 'active' devices.
[05:41] <Cloud_tm> FRAHAHHA
[05:41] <jon_> Thinkl00p, *rather* whatever network Limewire\Frostwire connects too
[05:41] <LathropWells> Can i change the default text color applications like firefox use on menus?
[05:41] <freakabcd> err.. what libs?
[05:41] <lutra> who needs a file manager?  isn't that what the terminal is for :)
[05:41] <Das|Busy> PuMpErNiCkLe: Then is there a way to find out what type it is without cracking the case in ubuntu?
[05:41] <arrick> ok night guys
[05:41] <yipe> limwire/frostwire connect to the gnutella network
[05:41] <bur[n] er> LathropWells: it has to do with your gtk theme (assuming gnome)
[05:41] <whyvas> quit being a bitch and crack the case
[05:42] <freakabcd> kde apps only for the first start from e take a while cos it duns the dcopserver, etc.
[05:42] <whyvas> or run memtest
[05:42] <Rug> lutra: long live MC
[05:42] <yipe> whyvas, be polite, please
[05:42] <Thinkl00p> oh yeah? k im good then without getting bearshare
[05:42] <arrick> !language whyvas
[05:42] <whyvas> memtest should be in your grub boot menu
[05:42] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, arrick
[05:42] <Thinkl00p> there a ubuntu documentation on wine?
[05:42] <arrick> !language
[05:42] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[05:42] <bur[n] er> freakabcd: i'm learning to live with KDE + firefox + thunderbird :)
[05:42] <LathropWells> After installing a dark colored theme most desktop widgets look great. but, leave secondary apps wiht neaarly invisible text on option menus.
[05:42] <Das|Busy> whyvas: I'm not 'being a b****' I just want to know without turning of the computer, and what is memtest?
[05:42] <freakabcd> bur[n] er, see..
[05:42] <lutra> Rug: mc is pretty cool
[05:42] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Das|Busy: Nothing I can think of, although I'm sure there's a way.
[05:42] <whyvas> leave the computer on, open the case.......
[05:43] <nalioth> Das|Busy: memtest tests your memory to check for bad spots
[05:43] <Rug> lutra: Do you know of a working version of Xtree-Gold ?
[05:43] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Das|Busy: memtest is a program that checks if your RAM is still performing properly - it write specific patterns to memory, then reads them back and checks if they're the same
[05:43] <Das|Busy> Then I guess I'm shutting off, and opening it up :|
[05:43] <lutra> rug: i've never heard of xtree-gold
[05:43] <whyvas> look at ram sticks, if it has 1 notch, ddr, if it has 2 notches sdram
[05:43] <yipe> Xtree-gold?..... wasn't that a semi-gui for DOS?
[05:43] <yipe> wow I haven't thought of that prog in YEARS
[05:43] <cafuego> whyvas: what cpu you got?
[05:43] <wolfsong13> yipe: yes
[05:43] <Rug> lutra: old-school Dos app.   It was the _FIRST_ file manager
[05:43] <Das|Busy> whyvas: But isn't there 3200, and something else?
[05:44] <whyvas> 1.6 celeron m
[05:44] <bur[n] er> Das|Busy: know the motherboard model?  i always use crucial.com to find out
[05:44] <nalioth> cafuego: you are the man i need to see, got a minute for a PM ?
[05:44] <Rug> yipe: I wish linux had a version
[05:44] <LathropWells> Xtree-Gold? -wow there was a DOS directory viewer called that a few years ago. is it the same one?
[05:44] <cafuego> whyvas: not likely to be sdram then
[05:44] <lutra> rug: ever tried worker?
[05:44] <Rug> LathropWells: yupp
[05:44] <cafuego> nalioth: oh all right
[05:44] <lutra> it is pretty sweet
[05:44] <Rug> lutra: nope
[05:44] <yipe> wow, except for nostalgia factor, why would you want it?
[05:45] <whyvas> Das|Busy, that's the ram speed, you can buy 3200 ram and it'll downclock to whatever you have, assuming you have ddr
[05:45] <lutra> i never used nautilus or synaptic...i always use the terminal
[05:45] <io__> How can I install a usplash theme .. I remeber something about doing it at the same time as i apt-get install usplash
[05:45] <whyvas> same with pc133, pc100
[05:45] <Rug> better then mc for some of the stuff I need to do
[05:45] <yipe> don't you have problems with dependencies lutra?
[05:45] <whyvas> cafuego, my laptop has ddr2700
[05:45] <wolfsong13> I'm getting a blank screen after the install completes and reboots. any ideas?
[05:45] <lutra> yipe: nope...sudo apt-get <package>
[05:45] <whyvas> i don't want to know, Das|Busy  does.
[05:45] <yipe> hmmm
[05:45] <ACU> Hi guys ---- I have terrible time making realplaye broadcast files to play  --- use KDE know --- I install GXINE and I can get the video to play (if I copy and past rtsp bla bla in the address) but I have NO SOUND ----- anyone with hints in REALMEDIA IN POWERPC UBUNTU ?
[05:45] <yipe> 'kay
[05:45] <Rug> dear god, worker is making my eyes bleed
[05:45] <Das|Busy> whyvas: Is there something that's better than 3200 then?
[05:45] <shredder_> Elite group P4 motherboards will give you a hard time with Ubuntu and Knoppix, The on board LAN fails wit Ubuntu as well.
[05:46] <lutra> ha ha
[05:46] <lutra> worker has sweet functionality though
[05:46] <lutra> you can do so much
[05:46] <allison_1984> hello all, need some help with a partition....
[05:46] <Cloud_tm> QUESTION: How do I run a program I installed with wine?
[05:46] <cafuego> ubotu: die
[05:46] <ubotu> cafuego: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:46] <Das|Busy> whyvas: I don't believe I have seen anything other than 3200
[05:46] <Rug> lutra: then wwhole point is to not need the mouse.  I might as well use Konq if I am going for a mouse-based file management
[05:46] <lutra> cafuego: is ubotu your bot?
[05:47] <lutra> rug: that's true
[05:47] <shredder_> Video with no sound is common. Click on the audio tab and click the disable and channel tabs
[05:47] <lutra> rug:  i don't use worker any more anyways
[05:47] <Rug> lutra: thanks for the tip though
[05:47] <bimberi> wolfsong13: no idea but try reconfiguring X.  ctrl-alt-f1, log in, 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg', 'sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart'
[05:47] <whyvas> yes, there's ddr2 ram, which won't fit in your computer, if you put in diffrent speeds of ram, it'll go the speed of the slowest stick
[05:47] <cafuego> lutra: no, I just kill it from time to time.
[05:47] <lutra> cafuego: ha ha
[05:47] <cafuego> lutra: perl deserves killing
[05:48] <wolfsong13> bimberi: i can't get to a term after it reboots to do anything
[05:48] <yipe> who wanted xtree-gold?
[05:48] <joseph> Easy question guys?  /usr/bin/make: No such file or directory
[05:48] <joseph>  - why?  cough sigh =(
[05:48] <yipe> http://www.unixtree.org/ check that site out
[05:48] <Rhine> If I run the .run file from ATI's website is it idiot proof?
[05:48] <cafuego> joseph: Did you install 'make' ?
[05:48] <lutra> joseph: you don't have make installed
[05:48] <freakabcd> joseph, easy answer: you haven't installed it
[05:48] <cafuego> Rhine: No. Use the prepackaged fglrx.
[05:48] <PuMpErNiCkLe> joseph: install 'build-essential' to get most necessary compiling tools
[05:48] <whyvas> joseph, install build essentials package
[05:48] <joseph> Excellent.. I like easy answers... package make?
[05:48] <bimberi> wolfsong13: hm, ok, try booting to recovery mode and reconfiguring X there,  test with 'startx'
[05:48] <Rhine> I cant use it to confusing it screws up all the time
[05:48] <PuMpErNiCkLe> joseph: ie, make, gcc, et al
[05:49] <cafuego> joseph: 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'
[05:49] <wolfsong13> bimberi: how to i get to recovery mode?
[05:49] <cafuego> ubotu: goo'boy
[05:49] <ubotu> cafuego: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:49] <bimberi> wolfsong13: it's an option on the boot menu
[05:49] <bimberi> wolfsong13: grub boot menu
[05:49] <Rhine> Just hit the down arrow
[05:49] <cafuego> tssk
[05:50] <joseph> cafuego, PuMpErNiCkLe, freakabcd , lutra - thanks...
[05:50] <wolfsong13> bimberi: thanks i'll try that
[05:50] <Rhine> For some reason I have ubuntu kernel 686 listed twice is it possible to remove one?
[05:50] <blindx> okay, I finally installed the "NetworkManager" now how do I run it :\
[05:50] <cafuego> Rhine: They will be different versions.
[05:50] <Rhine> But they are the same i checked both o.o
[05:51] <cafuego> blindx: nm-applet
[05:51] <bimberi> !network-manager
[05:51] <ubotu> somebody said network-manager was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkmanagerHowto
[05:51] <wolfsong13> bimberi: is there a config tool from a term for X?
[05:51] <cafuego> Rhine: You can't install 2 packages with identical names.
[05:51] <blindx> I tried that, cafuego. it just sits there. Should I wait longer? :\
[05:51] <Rhine> Ill check again later then
[05:51] <wolfsong13> i know there used to be one in debian
[05:51] <gn00b> trying to install mysql-server-4.1 and php4-gd2 but having major problems. i have the latest updates, and this is a new install of ubuntu. i also don't know wtf i'm doing either. a good url would help
[05:51] <cafuego> blindx: It ought to have brought up a little icon in the top panel, on the right.
[05:51] <bimberi> wolfsong13: yes, that dpkg-reconfigure command runs it
[05:52] <wolfsong13> ahhh yes
[05:52] <blindx> top right. i didn't notice. let me check.
[05:52] <bimberi> wolfsong13: i think the debian one was xconfig (or the like)
[05:52] <cratel> how can I add commands to the superuser list so I do not have to type "sudo" in front of them?
[05:52] <calamari> after my accidental deletion this morning, I created a library that intercepts the normal unlink call so that deletions change to moves (into ~./removed with appropriate subdirectories).  Anyone interested, a source tarball is here: http://kidsquid.com/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=ubuntu
[05:52] <cafuego> cratel: Not, unless you want to break your system.
[05:52] <Inazad> Hi there, anyone know the gDesklets?
[05:53] <Inazad> I have a disk-plot but it just working with the ALL ....
[05:53] <wolfsong13> bimberi: what should tha package name be xserver-???
[05:53] <yipe> Rug: was that any good for you?
[05:53] <yipe> unix-tree?
[05:53] <tonsofpcs> what is the default root user/pass on ubuntu?  (trying to help a friend)
[05:53] <cratel> cafuego: well let's say for the sake of argument that I want to break my system then. :-)
[05:53] <bimberi> wolfsong13: xserver-xorg
[05:53] <cafuego> cratel: Then I wouldn't volunteer to help you do it.
[05:53] <yipe> the default root password is actually your user password
[05:53] <bimberi> wolfsong13: (unless you're running warty)
[05:53] <tonsofpcs> thanks yipe
[05:54] <yipe> you're very welcome:)
[05:54] <hyphenated> tonsofpcs: not quite true..
[05:54] <yipe> oh?
[05:54] <yipe> .... wah?
[05:54] <tonsofpcs> hyphenated - hmm?
[05:54] <hyphenated> !root
[05:54] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[05:54] <hyphenated> both of you go read :-)
[05:54] <cratel> cafuego: so I have to justify why? Okay. This computer is for an art installation. Somebody hits a button at the end of the day and the computer automatically shuts down because the program running sends "shutdown -h "now"" to the OS. I don't want to have to send a password too.
[05:54] <yipe> but the password you want to enter is your user password, right?
[05:54] <cafuego> cratel: You could of course just keep a term open in which you've run 'sudo -s'
[05:54] <tonsofpcs> thanks hyphenated ;)
[05:55] <hyphenated> yipe: yes, but you can't log in at a tty with username root and password <userpassword>
[05:55] <cafuego> cratel: You can set sudo to not prompt for a password when running 'shutdown' as a specified user.
[05:55] <yipe> okay
[05:55] <cratel> cafuego: and when the computer is turned on at the beginning of the day it automatically logs itself in and starts up. No screen. No user intervention.
[05:55] <yipe> got me on a technicality:-P
[05:55] <allison_1984> How do I make a partition usable ?
[05:55] <cratel> cafuego: so how do I do that?
[05:55] <hyphenated> yipe: it's an important distinction
[05:55] <blindx> nm-applet did put that icon in the top left. and it works great, except for the fact it's not working :P
[05:55] <cafuego> cratel: The latter is a matter of configuring gdm.
[05:55] <calamari> cratel: if you're logging in via gdm, that I can help you with
[05:56] <cratel> cafuego: right...and I have that part working. I'm just explaining the situation.
[05:56] <yipe> not to the guy who just can't figure out how to get into synaptic (or whatever)
[05:56] <hyphenated> yipe: you can't _log on_ as root, but you can _get root privileges_ via sudo, using your user's password.
[05:56] <blindx> It's not finding my network. I know it can be reached where my computer is.. my wireless worked on windows, and worked when i ran the live cd.
[05:56] <Double_D> is there a way to get irc to highlight !arg, like if someone says '!mplayer' or whatever?
[05:56] <yipe> no no, I understand you
[05:56] <bmw> Is there cd ripper that can put the total number of tracks in the file name?
[05:56] <_jason> Double_D: what client do you use?
[05:56] <tonsofpcs> ok, hyphenated, he's saying he never set up a password, what would he do to log in to tty1?
[05:56] <yipe> I'm just saying it might be info overload
[05:56] <bimberi> cratel: you use NOPASSWD - the EXAMPLES section of 'man sudoers' is good
[05:56] <Double_D> _jason: xchat.
[05:56] <IdleOne> Double_D, what client are you using?
[05:56] <hyphenated> yipe: yup, it's important there too, because the same guy might think he can put in "root" at the GNOME login prompt
[05:57] <Double_D> IdleOne: xchat.
[05:57] <tonsofpcs> well with GDM you can disable root login
[05:57] <bmw> you'll need to mount your partition
[05:57] <yipe> okay okay, you win:P
[05:57] <blindx> Can someone help me with my WiFi connection?
[05:57] <cafuego> cratel: You WILL still need to use sudo, but it won't prompt.
[05:57] <bimberi> !wifi
[05:57] <ubotu> wifi is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[05:57] <hyphenated> tonsofpcs: you don't :-) boot in rescue mode if necessary, otherwise use the user's account, then run commands with sudo after that
[05:57] <akant> what does gdm do for you?
[05:57] <blindx> lol bimberi, if only it was that simple :P
[05:57] <cratel> cafuego, bimberi: thanks!
[05:57] <allison_1984> partition !
[05:57] <Madpilot> hi all
[05:57] <tonsofpcs> hyphenated - he doesn't have a user account setup... grrr
[05:57] <method|> anyone have problems with KDE crashing ALOT? i get segfaults all over the place
[05:57] <hyphenated> tonsofpcs: rescue mode then
[05:57] <yipe> akant: it's a login manager, you put your user name and password into it and it logs you in
[05:58] <bimberi> blindx: so you've been through that wiki page?
[05:58] <blindx> many times
[05:58] <allison_1984> partition!
[05:58] <todd> hey i nned some help with conky
[05:58] <IdleOne> Double_D, click on preferences> general
[05:58] <method|> i cant even change the desktop background without kde crashing
[05:58] <tonsofpcs> hyphenated - bah, i'll just have him maximize an xterm (i'm trying to get into tty1 so i don't have to redraw his desktop over vnc)
[05:58] <tonsofpcs> [he's running in vmware] 
[05:58] <bmw> right partition
[05:58] <todd> hey i nned some help with conky can anyone help
[05:58] <Double_D> IdleOne: okay, done.  what next?
[05:58] <bimberi> blindx: kk :|
[05:58] <IdleOne> Double_D, Settings>Preferences>General sorry in xchat
[05:58] <akant> yipe: what are other equivilants?  So if I just did a startx I there would be no login?
[05:59] <allison_1984> bmw: can you help ?
[05:59] <Double_D> IdleOne: aye, i got it.
[05:59] <blindx> bimberi: would you like to hear my problem? :P
[05:59] <bmw> I can try...
[05:59] <Double_D> IdleOne: i'm assuming there's something that indicates an argument, but don't know what it is.
[05:59] <hyphenated> akant: there'd be no need for a login when running 'startx', because you've already logged into a shell at that point :-)
[05:59] <yipe> ummmm, well kdm is one, it does the same thing but is part of KDE
[05:59] <method|> hey can anyone tell me how to remove the handles on the sides of panels?
[05:59] <IdleOne> Double_D, you will see in that window a box that says Highlight words
[05:59] <method|> in gnome
[05:59] <bmw> what kind of partion is it?
[05:59] <Double_D> IdleOne: aye, got it.
[05:59] <yipe> and there's the default ubuntu one (can't remember the name)
[05:59] <todd> hey i nned some help with conky can anyone help
[06:00] <yipe> and what hyphenated said
[06:00] <yipe> thanks for saving me some typing hyphen:)
[06:00] <allison_1984> !partition
[06:00] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, allison_1984
[06:00] <Double_D> IdleOne: what do i put in for the highlight word?
[06:00] <hyphenated> yipe: no problem :-)
[06:00] <blindx> whatever you want to be the highlight word o.o
[06:00] <bmw> yes okay, partition, it's been a long day...
[06:00] <IdleOne> Double_D, any word you want
[06:01] <yipe> did rug ever get his xtree?
[06:01] <method|> hey can anyone tell me how to remove the handles on the sides of transparent panels in gnome?
[06:01] <Double_D> IdleOne: is there way to set to highlight any statement that begins with '!' so that if someone says !whatevs, it will highlight?
[06:01] <IdleOne> Double_D,  I believe you can use * as wildcard so *arg should highlight !arg
[06:01] <blindx> ubuntu won't see my wireless network. I know it's there, because im using another device right next to my computer. any suggestions?
[06:01] <Rug> G'night all.
[06:01] <dli> how to enable audio cd for xmms?
[06:01] <Double_D> IdleOne: ah, of course, asterisk.  alright, lemme give it a shot.
[06:01] <Madpilot> method|, I'm pretty sure there's an option somewhere in the same windows you made the panels transparent in to remove the handles
[06:02] <IdleOne> Double_D, or !*
[06:02] <Double_D> IdleOne: right.
[06:02] <bimberi> blindx: sorry, looked away for a bit.  No.  :P
[06:02] <Double_D> IdleOne: now we wait.....
[06:02] <method|> madpilot: nope
[06:02] <method|> ive looked
[06:02] <yipe> I'll assume that was a yes
[06:02] <IdleOne> !tell Double_D about xchat
[06:02] <rafael> algum do brasil???
[06:02] <_jason> !br
[06:02] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[06:02] <allison_1984> bmw: I have a dual boot and I assigned a partition on XP and I want to be able to bring that over to ubuntu instead
[06:02] <method|> it seems like gnomes doesn't have any options
[06:02] <todd> hey i nned some help with conky can anyone help\
[06:02] <Double_D> IdleOne: my name was in that, though.  not a controlled test, eh :P
[06:02] <method|> kde had way more options
[06:02] <method|> too bad it crashed all the time
[06:02] <Madpilot> method|, "Show Hide Buttons" isn't what you're looking for?
[06:03] <Double_D> IdleOne oh, wait, nvrmnd.
[06:03] <IdleOne> Double_D, yeah I just realised it
[06:03] <blindx> ubuntu won't see my wireless network. I know it's there, because im using another device right next to my computer. any suggestions?
[06:03] <bmw> Sounds fun.  NTFS or FAT32?
[06:03] <Double_D> !highlight
[06:03] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Double_D
[06:03] <Double_D> hehe.  didn't think that would work.
[06:03] <IdleOne> Double_D, go to #debian-bots to test your script
[06:03] <Double_D> IdleOne: okay.
[06:03] <method|> http://www.fedoraforum.org/gallery/file_4gallery/1/3/7/8/8/snapshot1_original.png <--what's the name of the toolbar at the bottom?
[06:03] <IdleOne> Double_D, only because ubotu isnt a toy :)
[06:04] <Double_D> IdleOne: didn't realize it was set off ubotu.  hehe.
[06:04] <todd> hey i nned some help with conky can anyone help\
[06:04] <pinguino> hi every body!
[06:04] <todd> how do i get this kasbar thing off my desktop
[06:04] <Double_D> IdleOne: i'll just wait for someone to do it to see if it works.
[06:05] <Double_D> IdleOne: :)
[06:05] <IdleOne> cool
[06:05] <LathropWells> After installing a new dark colored gnome theme, black  menu text in firefox seemed to "vanish" installing the Epiphany browser seems to much work better.
[06:05] <method|> hey can anyone tell me how to remove the handles on the sides of transparent panels in gnome?
[06:05] <pinguino> did some body know how i can istall OPERA BROWSER ON uBUNTU DEPPER = IS THER A ESPECIAL REPOSITORIE FRO ADD TO SYANPTIC MENU?
[06:05] <tonyyarusso> !caps
[06:05] <ubotu> FYI, typing in ALL CAPS is considered to be 'yelling', and therefore rude behaviour.
[06:06] <pinguino> sorry for the caps...
[06:06] <QuikBng19> Sry crashed, When i set up wireless connection that uses a wep key in Network Connections, how do i tell it to use wepkey 2?
[06:06] <tonyyarusso> Double_D: So how'd it go?
[06:06] <joseph> Would someone mind lieing to me and say - "Its ok.  Everyone has issues getting wireless lan cards to work" - I dont care if its a straight-up lie.  I have tried for two days and about ready to give up and leave ethernet cable draped across my carpet =(
[06:06] <IdleOne> pinguino, sudo apt-get install opera ?
[06:06] <bmw> Allison, do you know what file system your using with XP?
[06:06] <LathropWells> if you have enabled "Universe Communitty supported" i think it should be there.
[06:06] <Double_D> tonyyarusso: how'd what go?
[06:06] <bimberi> !tell pinguino about opera
[06:06] <pinguino> yes but it dosent fin nothing
[06:06] <tonyyarusso> joseph: Bunches of people have trouble with that ;)
[06:06] <Double_D> IdleOne: ack, didn't work.
[06:06] <Madpilot> !tell pinguino about opera
[06:06] <LathropWells> opera is very good. :)
[06:06] <tonyyarusso> Double_D: The script.  Too bad.
[06:06] <PuMpErNiCkLe> joseph: Not everyone, but it's one of the more common issues.
[06:07] <allison_1984> bmw: ntfs
[06:07] <pinguino> i have mepis 6  ased on Ubuntu depper
[06:07] <Double_D> tonyyarusso: dangit.  there's gotta be a way to do it....
[06:07] <pinguino> i want to install opera
[06:07] <IdleOne> Double_D, www.xchat.org has a scripting faq iirc
[06:07] <Madpilot> pinguino, the bot just sent you a pm - read that
[06:07] <bimberi> pinguino: ubotu should have /msg'd you a hotwo
[06:07] <Double_D> IdleOne: i'll check it out, thanks.
[06:07] <lampshade> why won't iptables accept -p all ??
[06:07] <todd> hey i nned some help with conky can anyone help\
[06:07] <lampshade> I thought all was a valid protocol choice
[06:07] <QuikBng19> Sry crashed, When i set up wireless connection that uses a wep key in Network Connections, how do i tell it to use wepkey 2?
[06:07] <joseph> Thatl teach me to expect my 1.50 value wireless lan to work =)  Sigh.  Ah well.  Worst things have happened.
[06:07] <bimberi> *howto
[06:07] <Rhine> When I run this "sudo module-assistant build,install fglrx-kernel" it says kernel header could not be found anyway to fix this?
[06:07] <allison_1984> bmw: Is there a way that I can make this partition part of ubuntu rather than windows ?
[06:08] <[blindx] > I DID IT.
[06:08] <[blindx] > IM ONLINE.
[06:08] <[blindx] > Sorry for shouting.
[06:08] <Rhine> Congrats blindx
[06:08] <[blindx] > omg.
[06:08] <bmw> Allison: Ouch ntfs and linux aren't the best of friends.  You can read but writing is rather unstable.
[06:08] <[blindx] > I've been working since this time last night.
[06:08] <bimberi> [blindx] : well done
[06:09] <[blindx] > omg
[06:09] <BlankC> is there a repository with ispconfig in it?
[06:09] <[blindx] > I'm so excited.
[06:09] <allison_1984> bmw: thats the problem, I have it mounted and can only read, so i was wondering if I can make it rw ?
[06:09] <[blindx] > Do you realize there are 666 people in this chat room?
[06:09] <Andrew_> its like a deer being born
[06:09] <ray_> bmw, actually you just led me to a different question than I was going to initially ask.
[06:09] <ray_> Fat32 parititions; yay or nay?
[06:09] <todd> hey i nned some help with conky can anyone help\
[06:09] <bimberi> [blindx] : you mean vi vi vi ? :P
[06:09] <LinNewb> Nebody know why when I try to use sudo I get the message "Unable to lookup <my computer name> via gethostbyname (1)" ?
[06:10] <QuikBng19> Could someone help me in explaining how to make my wireless connection use wep key 2?
[06:10] <ray_> I read somehwere that you can use one to "transfer" between windows and linux...
[06:10] <cafuego> [blindx] : half of those are robots, not people
[06:10] <Madpilot> allison_1984, not safely, not w/ NTFS & Linux
[06:10] <_jason> LinNewb: paste the first line of /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname
[06:10] <tonyyarusso> ray_: Yep, I've done that.
[06:10] <Rhine> Is there a way to reset all my bars the bottom one and the top one?
[06:10] <bmw> Ray: yay
[06:10] <allison_1984> bmw: I have tried to format it with extended3, but I cannot make it rw ....
[06:10] <ray_> ^my question in that question ;)
[06:10] <tonyyarusso> ray_: Only thing is FAT doesn't preserve permissions.
[06:10] <_jason> [blindx] : don't listen to cafuego , I think he is a robot
[06:10] <LinNewb> kewel, thx!
[06:10] <ray_> I don't mind about permissions, at least.
[06:10] <todd> hey i nned some help with conky can anyone help?
[06:11] <nomasteryoda> this new xchat-gnome is weird
[06:11] <cafuego> _jason: bugger all, i dunno
[06:11] <bmw> Allison: are you still wanting to use windows?
[06:11] <Rhine> When I run this "sudo module-assistant build,install fglrx-kernel" it says kernel header could not be found anyway to fix this?
[06:11] <yipe> yeah it is, what does the red line mean?
[06:11] <Madpilot> nomasteryoda, why are you inflicting that thing on yourself? :P
[06:11] <[blindx] > anyone use gaim?
[06:11] <ray_> me.
[06:11] <LathropWells> Rhine - you can right click on them to add to panel - delete one and recreate the taskbar you want then delete the other one.
[06:11] <yipe> me
[06:11] <tonyyarusso> [blindx] : Yes.
[06:11] <allison_1984> Madpilot: I even tried to format that drive with Fat32, funnily it still shows up as ntfs on ubuntu !
[06:11] <Double_D> [blindx]  i do.
[06:11] <bimberi> Rhine: 'killall gnome-panel' (to reset the panels at top and bottom)
[06:11] <ray_> I don't like how AIM has issues with transfer, though.
[06:11] <[blindx] > the taskbar button won't stop flashing, even after i switch to that window o.o
[06:11] <todd> hey i nned some help with conky can anyone help?
[06:11] <nomasteryoda> Madpilot: well it came with dapper
[06:11] <nomasteryoda> =D
[06:11] <ray_> haha.
[06:12] <Madpilot> allison_1984, odd...
[06:12] <allison_1984> bmw: I still want to keep win, but its the second parttion that I want to be able to use in linux
[06:12] <nomasteryoda> it is ok, but sucks really
[06:12] <ray_> I minimise my bars, so the flashing is unapparent :x
[06:12] <QuikBng19> Could someone help me in explaining how to make my wireless connection use wep key 2?
[06:12] <Double_D> [lbindx] : yeah, that sometimes happens to me, too.  not sure what the deal is with that.
[06:12] <todd> hey i nned some help with conky can anyone help?
[06:12] <nomasteryoda> not like my old favorite xchat
[06:12] <Double_D> [blindx] : in fact, it's happening right now.
[06:12] <_jason> LinNewb: you understand how to do that?
[06:12] <Rhine>  That didnt do what i wanted it to do. I mean reset as in put the time and recycle bins back i accindently deleted them
[06:12] <bimberi> nomasteryoda: there are a couple of nice features - find in reverse and single left-click to open links in browser
[06:12] <Madpilot> nomasteryoda, you can still get XChat for Dapper, thankfully - it's just been moved out to Universe
[06:12] <bmw> allison: You might try creating a third partion as FAT32.
[06:12] <allison_1984> Madpilot: So I have a partition which I am not using with wins and I cannot even use from linux...waste....
[06:12] <nomasteryoda> bimberi: yes that is very good
[06:13] <Double_D> [blindx] : it stops when i return something back.  prolley set in code to flash if the last post is from the person you're chatting with or something.
[06:13] <nomasteryoda> ok ... cool
[06:13] <[blindx] > the taskbar button won't stop flashing, even after i switch to that window o.o -- ever witness that?
[06:13] <[blindx] > aw shit.
[06:13] <todd> hey i nned some help with conky can anyone help?
[06:13] <nomasteryoda> thanks Madpilot
[06:13] <LinNewb> been lookin but not finding any drivers for either the Broadcom v92 56k or US Robotics v92 USB modems, anyone know of any?
[06:13] <Double_D> [blindx] : somebody didn't really think that one out, did they?  hehe.
[06:13] <NxNxMox> uhh.. guys
[06:13] <NxNxMox> 500 OOPS: vsftpd: refusing to run with writable anonymous root
[06:13] <ray_> Well, if anyone's free, I have a probably common issue that has to do  with GCC...since I"m trying to install Mplayer.
[06:13] <NxNxMox> this means?
[06:13] <phiber_optic> all of the sudden   i got a folder IBJts created does anybody know what it is?
[06:13] <bmw> allison: that way you can use the space from both OS's
[06:13] <Madpilot> !tell todd abotu repeat
[06:13] <Rhine> When I run this "sudo module-assistant build,install fglrx-kernel" it says kernel header could not be found anyway to fix this?
[06:13] <blindx> i think im going to have to move my computer in my room
[06:13] <cafuego> ray_: You can install the mplayer package, no gcc required.
[06:13] <blindx> my wireless  just went to 0%
[06:13] <blindx>  :\
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> mom turn on the microwave?
[06:14] <ray_> (checks his terminals logs)
[06:14] <_jason> ubotu: tell ray_ about mplayer
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> it kills my wireless
[06:14] <ray_> maybe I misread it
[06:14] <LathropWells> allison_1984, - google for a bash script called diskmounter or winmac_fstab  - it was written by a moderator here "Sevceas" let me see if ubotu has the link
[06:14] <Madpilot> !tell todd about repeat
[06:14] <blindx> nah, microwave is off.
[06:14] <LathropWells> !diskmounter
[06:14] <ubotu> diskmounter is, like, totally, to automatically mount your ntfs, fat32 or hfs+ drives, download and read http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter
[06:14] <ray_> woops; wrong app.
[06:14] <ray_> It's audioscrobbler's plugin that needs it ;x
[06:14] <todd> dose anyone know what conky is
[06:14] <blindx> okay, getting off this client
[06:14] <_jason> ray_: install build-essential
[06:14] <blindx> Eff windows1
[06:14] <cafuego> !info conky
[06:14] <blindx> ! *
[06:14] <ubotu> blindx: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:14] <ubotu> conky: (highly configurable system monitor for X based on torsmo), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 1.3.1-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 84 kB, Installed size: 292 kB
[06:15] <blindx> oops.
[06:15] <blindx> sorry ubotu
[06:15] <allison_1984> bmw: I cannot use from linux...only read...now I want to just bring it over to linux
[06:15] <blindx>  :P
[06:15] <ray_> shiz
[06:15] <ray_> I need to go on an errand
[06:15] <spinelli> does anyone know what grub error 2 means?
[06:15] <ray_> I'll brb in a while
[06:15] <Double_D> blindx: haha, that was the latest wildcard setup i tried and it highlighted.
[06:15] <vars> hey i have  aubuntu server, what is the lowest level program to use to rip a cd?
[06:15] <_jason> ubotu: tell spinelli about grub
[06:15] <blindx> lol double.
[06:15] <allison_1984> Lathropwells: are you tslking about mounting it ?
[06:15] <Double_D> double
[06:16] <Double_D> hmm.
[06:16] <LathropWells> allison_1984, - ntfsprogs is i think what youare asking about. bring up synaptic search ntfs, read the notice about it and install.
[06:16] <todd> dose anyone know what conky is
[06:16] <IdleOne> !tell toabout conky
[06:16] <IdleOne> !tell toabout patience
[06:16] <IdleOne> errrr
[06:16] <IdleOne> stupid typos
[06:16] <Madpilot> IdleOne, spelling counts :P
[06:17] <IdleOne> fix that for me will ya :P
[06:17] <IdleOne> hehe
[06:17] <Double_D> !tell todd about conky
[06:17] <IdleOne> todd, patience
[06:17] <IdleOne> asking 50 times a minute wont get you the answer any faster
[06:17] <cafuego> todd: Ubotu just told everyone in the channel what conky is.
[06:17] <Double_D> ubotu doesn't know what conky is.
[06:17] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Double_D
[06:17] <allison_1984> Lathropwells: I have the partition mounted already....thing is now I want it as a partition of ubuntu instead of windows to be able to use it
[06:18] <cafuego> Double_D: He does.
[06:18] <IdleOne> Double_D, !tell send the info via msg to the nick you specufy
[06:18] <Double_D> why does he lie to me!
[06:18] <bmw> allison: with a 3rd partition as fat32, you can rw from both windows and linux
[06:18] <cafuego> Double_D: You're asking the wrong question.
[06:18] <freakabcd> i think maybe he means konqi ?
[06:18] <freakabcd> as in konqueror?
[06:18] <cafuego> No. conky.
[06:18] <IdleOne> everybo apt-cache search conky !
[06:18] <Double_D> cafuego: ain't that the story of my life.
[06:18] <IdleOne> its in the repos
[06:18] <Double_D> IdleOne: okay.
[06:18] <cafuego> apt-cache show, in fact
[06:19] <IdleOne> has man pages to :)
[06:19] <bimberi> Double_D: there's no !conky factoid but !info conky   works
[06:19] <todd> how do i  get it to run
[06:19] <cafuego> todd: Did you check /usr/share/doc/conky/* ?
[06:19] <Double_D> bimberi: ahh, i see.
[06:19] <allison_1984> bmw: maybe its a windows problem then, because I formatted that partition with fat32 ans it still shows up as ntfs on ubuntu
[06:19] <todd> i did sudo apt-get install conky and it installed but how do i get it to open and run
[06:19] <LathropWells> allison. - Okay now i am confused. ( not hard to do actually.) You can't access an already mounted drive?  what do the read/write permissions say when you right click on the desktop shortcut to it?
[06:19] <_jason> LinNewb: we doing ok?
[06:19] <Rhine> How do I fix this?  Bad luck, the kernel headers for the target kernel version could   
[06:19] <Rhine>       not be                                                             
[06:19] <Rhine>       found and you did not specify other valid kernel headers to use.
[06:19] <IdleOne> todd, type conky in a terminal
[06:20] <cafuego> Rhine: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[06:20] <pinguino> http://snapshot.opera.com/unix/u90p2.html NEW Opera 9 binary for ubuntu dapper Here!
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> weee
[06:20] <todd> todd@ubuntu:~$ conky
[06:20] <todd> Conky: Xft not enabled
[06:20] <todd> Conky: drawing to subwindow of root window (2600040)
[06:20] <todd> Conky: failed to set up double buffer
[06:20] <todd> Conky: drawing to single buffer    that what came up
[06:20] <allison_1984> So I now have a partition which is totally not being used at all...sigh !
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> I still perfer Firefox over Opers.
[06:20] <Rhine> Thank you cafuego
[06:21] <IdleOne> todd,  man conky
[06:21] <allison_1984> Dr_Willis: opera is faster than firefox..in my opinion
[06:21] <ce_sark> #surabaya
[06:21] <todd> man?
[06:21] <IdleOne> yes
[06:21] <IdleOne> todd, in terminal
[06:21] <Rhine> Does Opera have Themes?
[06:21] <todd> one sec
[06:21] <carthik> what does the "nomtrr" stand for in the video=vesafb:nomtrr ? anyone?
[06:21] <allison_1984> Rhine: of course
[06:21] <todd> k a whole bunch of stuff came up
[06:21] <bmw> allison: did windows format it or did you use ubuntu?
[06:21] <Rhine> Spiffy I might try it out
[06:21] <freakabcd> maybe he wants this: alias woman='man'
[06:21] <freakabcd> lol
[06:22] <IdleOne> todd, those are the manual pages
[06:22] <pinguino> deviantart.com /themes/opera
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> allison_1984,  ive never noticed any speed diff. and never figured out how to even Benchmark such things.
[06:22] <allison_1984> bmw: I formatted it with win OS
[06:22] <IdleOne> todd, they should help you get started :)
[06:22] <LathropWells> allison_1984, - edit your fstab file for comeplete control. not hard to do. :)
[06:22] <Rhine> Finally I can use my ati card that took forever thank you very helpful people
[06:23] <allison_1984> Lathropwells: should I reformat the partition again ?
[06:24] <allison_1984> Dr_Willis: I sit with a counter....;)
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> allison_1984,  they have medicine out now for people like you.... :P
[06:24] <bmw> allison: okay, another question... why do you think it's ntfs in ubuntu?
[06:24] <LathropWells> Eeek! - No! - you have three good options already to gain read write access. ntfsprogs, the winmac_fstab.sh script and editing the fstab file.
[06:25] <allison_1984> bmw: no idea....
[06:25] <allison_1984> Lathropwells: lemme try it then
[06:26] <yipe> what is ctrl alt f1-f12 supposed to do?
[06:26] <wd> just installed opera and the "o" icon isn't on my menu, a square box is with "opera" written next to it, however in my menu editor the "o" is there.
[06:26] <todd> what do i need to do to get this running
[06:26] <IdleOne> wd, right click on it go to properties and change the icon
[06:26] <Double_D> yipe: ctrl+alt+f1-6 takes you to your VT's, i believe.  ctrl+alt+f7 returns you to X, and ctrl+alt+f8 displayed boot info or something.
[06:26] <hyphenated> yipe: from a desktop environment, it should switch you to Ctrl+Alt+F1-6 should switch you from a graphical display to a text one
[06:27] <yipe> that doesn't work for me
[06:27] <Double_D> yipe: don't know about f19-12.
[06:27] <Double_D> yipe: *f9.
[06:27] <cesar> ola
[06:27] <IdleOne> oye
[06:27] <yipe> yeah, all those do nothing
[06:27] <IdleOne> !br
[06:27] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[06:27] <Double_D> yipe: strange.  don't know what to tell you.
[06:27] <todd> what do i need to do to get this running
[06:28] <carthik> okay, how can I scan to see a list of all available vga modes?
[06:28] <yipe> hmmm
[06:28] <cesar> alguem?
[06:28] <Double_D> yipe: it would appear that f9 also takes me to a VT...
[06:28] <IdleOne> cesar, Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[06:29] <Double_D> yipe: nvrmnd, no it didn't.
[06:29] <AngryElf> what's a quick way (command) to turn the screensaver on and off?
[06:29] <wd> idleone, when i right click it says "add launcher to panel, add launcher to desktop"
[06:29] <allison_1984> Lathropwells: will it be stable...I don't want to end up losing all my files that i will transfer to the partition .....
[06:29] <IdleOne> wd, from the menu left click on it and hold and drag it to the panel
[06:30] <bmw> allison: see http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfsmount
[06:31] <allison_1984> bmw: thanks :)
[06:31] <IdleOne> wd, then if you want to change the icon for it right click on the icon itself and select properties and from there you can find your way I think
[06:31] <LathropWells> allison_1984, - ntfsprogs is for write access to ntfs drives and is a bit risky. - If you need write access it is the only game in town other rhan ntfs captive (even more daring)
[06:31] <wd> IdleOne, "failed to load image opera.png details: icon not found
[06:32] <IdleOne> wd, you need to point to the icon location . probablu in a folder on your desktop right now
[06:32] <bmw> allison: your welcome...
[06:32] <todd> what do i need to do to get this running
[06:32] <Double_D> todd: get what running?
[06:33] <wd> IdleOne, when i right click for properties, next to icon it shows the "o"
[06:33] <LathropWells> allison - i don't need write access to ntfs drives the usual setup is to store share files on Fat32 (linux VFAT)
[06:33] <IdleOne> wd, hmmm
[06:33] <IdleOne> wd, but displays something different?
[06:33] <allison_1984> Lathropwells: doesn't sound like its for me...lol....does any of the parttiton tools would help ?
[06:33] <jorge_> !backports
[06:33] <ubotu> somebody said backports was Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main universe multiverse restricted" (without the ") to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[06:33] <wd> IdleOne, how can uninstall and dpkg over?
[06:33] <wd> IdleOne, yes displays something diff.
[06:33] <bmw> allison: you can also go here: http://ubuntuguide.org/
[06:34] <IdleOne> wd, try clicking on the O and point it to the correct location again
[06:34] <allison_1984> bmw: looks the previous wiki site is good for what we are talking here...the ntfsprogs...says 50/50 for write access
[06:34] <IdleOne> wd, see if that helps
[06:35] <blueey3s2006> hi
[06:35] <bmw> allison: you'll need to scroll down a bit but there is a windows section that talks about mounting ntfs & fat
[06:35] <allison_1984> Lathropwells: thats the thing, I formatted that parttiton in wins to fat32 and it still shows up as ntfs ......
[06:35] <johnnybezak> hey guys, I'm trying to get an external DVD-RW drive to work over firewire. It isn't showing up in Nautilus. When I do a "lshal | grep 1394" (ieee1394 = firewire) I see a device with the vendor string PROLIFIC TECHNOLOGY which I think is my burner. Anyone know how to get this working? Does any one have any ideas on how I should find out more about this?
[06:35] <LathropWells> well ubuntu can read ntfs drives already. without doing anything to it. (i am still a biy\t confused about whetherr you need to write to ntfs.)
[06:36] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Do I hear people talking about writing to ntfs? http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/ <--- writing to ntfs
[06:37] <LathropWells> allison_1984, - give ubotu's link a try. the diskmounter winmac_fstab.sh script works wonderfully no fstab editing needed.
[06:37] <allison_1984> Lathropwells: shite....I guess I will try reformat again...
[06:37] <LathropWells> !diskmounter
[06:37] <ubotu> diskmounter is, like, to automatically mount your ntfs, fat32 or hfs+ drives, download and read http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter
[06:37] <newtoubuntu> Hey, I know you gues are goanna kill me, but I want to make Gnome/KDE look like windows (or in some other way make ubuntu look like windows
[06:37] <allison_1984> Lathropwells: well thanks....I learned quite a bit again today :)
[06:37] <_jason> newtoubuntu: you want to speak with tonyyarusso when he is around
[06:38] <allison_1984> newtoubuntu: rofl
[06:38] <Double_D> newtoubuntu: isn't it close enough already?
[06:38] <IdleOne> newtoubuntu, you can try icewm has pretty much a windows look and feel ( to me atleast it does )
[06:38] <wd> IdleOne, ok i click and tried to drag icon nothing, however a path box showed up where the icon was. how do i screenshot in terminal?
[06:38] <todd> Double_D do u know the program
[06:39] <IdleOne> screenshot for what?
[06:39] <LathropWells> allison_1984, - gksudo gedit   ( gksudo lets gui apps have temporary root powers andgedit is a text editor) /etc/fstab
[06:39] <Double_D> todd: gnome?  it's what i've got right now.
[06:39] <IdleOne> wd, I dont know how to do that from terminal?
[06:39] <Double_D> todd: basically, got the same stuff going on.  minor differences.
[06:39] <Double_D> todd: big picture sort of thing.
[06:39] <newtoubuntu> The Idea is that when people who don't know s### about computers use my laptop they won't sit there and stare so do you think those sugestions still work?
[06:39] <Double_D> hehe.
[06:39] <wd> IdleOne, i wanted to show u what the how it looks
[06:39] <LinNewb> one uses "sudo" to perform a command as root, no?
[06:39] <todd> Double_D ok so how do i get this up and runnign
[06:40] <graig> hi
[06:40] <Double_D> todd: oh!  you're changing your X or what specifically are you doing?  installing the OS for the first time?
[06:40] <wd> IdleOne, how do i uninstall opera
[06:40] <LathropWells> linkd, - or "sudo su"  Ya gotta love linux for the many ways it lets you do something.
[06:40] <todd> Double_D no im trying to get conky to run
[06:40] <wd> IdleOne, i'm going to reinstall and hope it works
[06:41] <Double_D> todd: oh, conky.  not sure i know too much about that.  have you done apt-get install conky?
[06:41] <wd> IdleOne, it's not in my synaptic
[06:41] <newtoubuntu> any ideas?
[06:41] <todd> Double_D yea everythign is installed i just need to it run
[06:41] <Double_D> todd: hmm.  okay, what happens when you type 'conky' into a terminal?
[06:41] <IdleOne> wd Im not sure how you uninstall it
[06:41] <IdleOne> wd,  how did you install it?
[06:42] <todd> Double_D one sec ill paste it up in pastebin
[06:42] <Double_D> todd: unless i'm missing something, if you type 'conky' into a terminal, it ought to execute it or give you a list of acceptable options to follow the command.
[06:42] <newtoubuntu> It's not for me but for other people, mabey another desktop envirment alltogether?
[06:43] <Double_D> todd: i'm a bit new to linux, so don't hang me if it doesn't work, eh.  :P
[06:43] <LinNewb> cannot install gcc without root access, cannot use "sudo" because error "Unable to lookup <computer name> via gethostbyhame" heard you fix this in /etc/hosts, cannot modify without root access... :(
[06:43] <todd> dude im new too
[06:44] <Double_D> todd: okay, good.  we'll try and figure it out.
[06:44] <newtoubuntu> any one thinking about it anyway?
[06:44] <Double_D> todd: try that 'conky' in the terminal and tell me if it works or what it returns.
[06:44] <todd> Double_D heres the link                http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12066
[06:44] <Double_D> todd: okay, i'll take a look.
[06:44] <todd> Double_D thats what comes up
[06:45] <Double_D> todd: when you type conky into the terminal?
[06:45] <todd> yea
[06:45] <wd> IdleOne, sudo dpkg -i (file.deb)
[06:45] <IdleOne> wd dpkg -rP package should do it
[06:46] <newtoubuntu> god, IS ANYONE LISTINING ANYMORE???!!!!
[06:46] <Double_D> todd: oh, ouch.  okay, we should start with Xft, see if you can find out why that's not enabled.  try typing Xft into the terminal and see what happens, i suppose.
[06:46] <IdleOne> !attitude
[06:46] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Please be aware there are a lot of questions, but only maybe few who might know the answer for you. Please be patient. Your attitude may determine their willingness to help you.
[06:46] <Double_D> newtoubuntu: what's up?
[06:46] <manu__> hi
[06:46] <manu__> I am using breezy
[06:46] <manu__> and have problem printing
[06:46] <newtoubuntu> yea, remember my windows question?
[06:47] <todd> Double_D command not found
[06:47] <graig> i logged on before your question i think.
[06:47] <manu__> I have 2 pc :  printer <=> pc1
[06:47] <IdleOne> wd dpkg -rP file.deb I meant but you prolly guessed that
[06:47] <manu__> and pc2 is on the same network
[06:47] <newtoubuntu> manu__:  What have you tried>
[06:47] <Double_D> newtoubuntu: what specific changes are you trying to make?  like icons or the desktop or making a windows desktop clone or what?
[06:47] <manu__> how can I get the printing to work from pc2?
[06:47] <Double_D> todd: hmm.  try some variations of 'help Xft.'
[06:47] <IdleOne> good night folks
[06:47] <Double_D> todd: err, crap.  linux.  maybe help won't work the same way.
[06:47] <LinNewb>  cannot install gcc without root access, cannot use "sudo" because error "Unable to lookup <computer name> via gethostbyhame" heard you fix this in /etc/hosts, cannot modify without root access... :( any ideas?
[06:47] <wd> IdleOne, hey thanks i'm gonna just uninstall
[06:48] <Double_D> IdleOne: sleep tight, thanks for the help.
[06:48] <hyphenated> LinNewb: rescue mode
[06:48] <manu__> newtoubuntu: I can print so far from PC1 to printer
[06:48] <todd> Double_D nothing
[06:48] <newtoubuntu> Double_D: basicaly a clone, I just what non linux users to be able to use my laptop without me being constanly around
[06:48] <manu__> using USB
[06:48] <manu__> but I would love to be able to print from my pc2 directly over the network
[06:48] <IdleOne> wd np sorry I wasnt more help :/
[06:48] <manu__> I think PC1 should act as a printing server... is this possible?
[06:48] <newtoubuntu> manu: and what do you want to do?
[06:49] <bmw> pumpernickle: do you use captive?
[06:49] <manu__> I want to print from PC2
[06:49] <Double_D> newtoubuntu: you might want to try some type of emulator or something, then, maybe.  do some searching arround at ubuntuforums.org, see if you can find anything.
[06:49] <todd> Wheres DBO
[06:49] <LinNewb> thx, byez yall
[06:49] <manu__> I want it to be transparent
[06:49] <Double_D> todd: hmm.  let me see if i can find anything out about Xft.
[06:49] <manu__> I want PC1 to be the main pc connected to the printer
[06:49] <todd> Double_D k\
[06:49] <manu__> and then any other pc to be able to print through PC1
[06:50] <newtoubuntu> Double_D: Ok thanx, Wine does that right?  is there a desktop like windows or somthing else (like bootcamp of Mac)?
[06:50] <wd> IdleOne, u were thnx
[06:50] <Double_D> todd: okay, it's a font thing.  try looking around in synaptic, or do an apt-cache search for it.
[06:50] <Double_D> todd: you might not have the package installed, i suppose.
[06:50] <funman> hello
[06:50] <graig> why not just make a guest user account newtoubuntu?
[06:50] <todd> Double_D ill check
[06:51] <Double_D> newtoubuntu: wine is a windows emulator, i'm not sure if it emulates on the X root window, though.
[06:51] <Double_D> newtoubuntu: may as well look into it thought.
[06:51] <Double_D> newtoubuntu: *though
[06:51] <newtoubuntu> Yea, I guess it's illigle to make a true copy right?
[06:51] <Double_D> newtoubuntu: there might a virtualPC for linux, too, perhaps.
[06:52] <manu__> so newtoubuntu? any idea?
[06:52] <Double_D> newtoubuntu: i have some friends with mac's that use that.
[06:52] <Double_D> todd: if you're mostly just worried about friends being able to surf or chat or whatever with you laptop, you could always add launchers to the desktop and that might be enough for them.
[06:52] <Double_D> todd: ack.  that was meant for newtoubuntu.
[06:53] <newtoubuntu> manu__: Not realy, I'm prettly new, But When I plugged into my school network, all the printers showed up
[06:53] <bmw> lathropwells: did you see that link for captive?
[06:53] <todd> Double_D still nothing man
[06:53] <milesblahblah> If anyone could help me, I am trying to dual boot windows xp and Ubuntu 5.10, how would I go about doing this?
[06:54] <newtoubuntu> Yea, That could work, but often people don't even try to do anything when they see that it's linux
[06:54] <hyphenated> !dualboot
[06:54] <ubotu> for wintel https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo :for the Mac https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[06:54] <manu__> my printer is not a network printer
[06:54] <funman> milesblahblah: uncomment windows section in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:54] <graig> install windows first miles, to part of the drive, then install linux second.
[06:54] <Double_D> todd: hmmm.  did you do a search in synaptic and it didn't show up at all?
[06:54] <manu__> so I am trying to use my pc1 to be the relay
[06:54] <stjepan> hi
[06:55] <newtoubuntu> Double_D: i have the winblows CD, so I might just duel boot it on my sustem
[06:55] <newtoubuntu> *system
[06:55] <Double_D> todd: look around here, see if this helps you out: http://keithp.com/~keithp/render/Xft.tutorial
[06:55] <Double_D> newtoubuntu: not a bad idea.
[06:55] <stjepan> I downloaded kubuntu dapper6 install i386, md5 check is ok, I burned it and it doesn't want to boot it.... why? :((
[06:55] <rocker> hahaha
[06:56] <Double_D> newtoubuntu: i know some keep have a windows partition that they can switch back and forth with, too.  not sure if that's the same thing you're talking about..
[06:56] <milesblahblah> (graig) Have another problem I already installed win xp on the whole disk, should I partition a new section on win xp or when installing ubuntu?
[06:56] <newtoubuntu> Double_D:   I just use the grub loader that comes with ubuntu on my desktop at school
[06:56] <todd> Double_D wait i founf some more hold on
[06:57] <milesblahblah> Have another problem I already installed win xp on the whole disk, should I partition a new section on win xp or when installing ubuntu?
[06:57] <allison_1984> milesblahblah: you will need to have partitioned drives during install
[06:57] <Double_D> newtoubuntu: ah, i think i understand.
[06:57] <todd> Double_D still the same errors
[06:57] <tamale> how do i add 1280x1024 to the list of available resolutions in the "screen resolution" preferences window!?
[06:57] <milesblahblah> So I can't have win xp partition some excess space?
[06:57] <newtoubuntu> Double_D:  Would duel boot do anything but eat harddrive space?
[06:58] <Double_D> newtoubuntu: i'm not sure.  might use RAM, too.
[06:58] <rocker> Shut up
[06:58] <Double_D> newtoubuntu: actually, i'd guess it would use RAM as well.
[06:58] <yipe> I have breezy badger, how do I update to Dapper?
[06:58] <wd> how do uninstall or remove opera installed by sudo dpkg -i (file.deb)?
[06:58] <allison_1984> milesblahblah: I have dual boot, but unless you have partition tools, you cannot partition once you installed on an all single drive
[06:59] <newtoubuntu> Duble_D: Why RAM, If I havent booted the OS, why would it be in RAM (which clears when there's no power)
[06:59] <bmw> Is there a cd ripper that can create filenames with the total number of tracks ie... 1 of 10?
[06:59] <rocker> yes
[06:59] <Double_D> newtoubuntu: it might not.  i don't know.
[06:59] <bmw> great! what is it?
[06:59] <Double_D> newtoubuntu: i've never done it before.
[07:00] <rocker> yeah i wanna know
[07:00] <Double_D> todd: well, i might be out of ideas, then.  maybe should seek some help from someone more seasoned :(
[07:00] <blindx> Oh man. My net stopped working, and i flipped out, tried everything to fix it
[07:00] <bmw> oh, i thouht you knew
[07:00] <blindx> then tried pinging my router, it worked.
[07:00] <allison_1984> milesblahblah: there is a partition tool in dos mode, but I cannot remember which one....
[07:00] <blindx> I'm like wtffff
[07:00] <newtoubuntu> Double_D:  I'll try it tommarrow, It's not a perfect solution, but it might work for my friends, whatever!
[07:00] <blindx> so i ran upstairs.. i accidentally hit the "suspend" button on my cable modem
[07:00] <blindx> -.-
[07:00] <Double_D> newtoubuntu: yeah.  if they're really need a box that badly, they should bring their own :P
[07:01] <milesblahblah> allison_1984: I have a partition tool called reddix partition my buddy wrote the program himself, so I guess I could use that to create another new partition.
[07:01] <milesblahblah> allison_1984: Thanks for your help btw.
[07:01] <tamale> how do i add 1280x1024 to the list of available resolutions in the "screen resolution" preferences window!?
[07:01] <newtoubuntu> yipe:  I'm not sure that you wan't to upgrade yet, there's still A LOT of bugs to work out
[07:01] <yipe> ohhhh
[07:01] <yipe> okay
[07:01] <Double_D> tamale: what distro do you have?
[07:01] <tamale> ubuntu breezy
[07:01] <rocker> yes
[07:02] <rocker> somebody help
[07:02] <rocker> woooow
[07:02] <rocker> jst rock n roll!!!!
[07:02] <milesblahblah> Thanks all bye.
[07:02] <blindx> whats that program .. discmount.. or something..
[07:02] <babo> Hi guys, what's the best way to get a public gpg key off my webhost, before I send them some documents ? Can I get it off a keyserver, or do I have to ask them for it ??
[07:02] <Double_D> tamale: that's what i've got and it's there.....
[07:02] <allison_1984> milesblahblah: no hassles
[07:02] <tamale> i know my monitor can do it
[07:02] <tamale> it does it in windows fine
[07:02] <tamale> but i added it manually in the xorg.conf and i still don't have the option
[07:03] <allison_1984> milesblahblah: make sure you format the new partition with fat32 onlt and not ntfs
[07:03] <yipe> did you reboot since then?
[07:03] <Double_D> tamale: there are like four 1280x* resolutions on my list.... oh, weird.
[07:03] <blindx> xorg.conf.. where is that? :x
[07:03] <newtoubuntu> Double_D:  yea, Our school is thinking of supplying the school with laptops in the future (of couse they're going to be loaners so no linux ;-()
[07:03] <johnnybezak> how do I report bugs in ubunut
[07:03] <yipe> I know you're not supposed to have to reboot but I had trouble with screen resolutions and it wouldn't add the option I needed until I rebooted
[07:03] <Double_D> tamale: that's kinda screwy.  not sure what to tell you there.
[07:03] <tamale> :\
[07:04] <blindx> where is the xorg.conf file?
[07:04] <bmw> allison: check out this link http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/ for ntfs
[07:04] <tamale> none of the guides on the forums help
[07:04] <Double_D> tamale: have you rebooted since you made the change to xorg.conf?
[07:04] <tamale> yah
[07:04] <tamale> several times
[07:04] <blanky> !firefox1.5
[07:04] <yipe> bugs are reported to https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs
[07:04] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[07:04] <Double_D> tamale: arg.  hmm.
[07:04] <allison_1984> bmw: ah btw, now my partition is vfat, I am trying to make it accessible to myself
[07:04] <dli> is audacious available in ubuntu?
[07:04] <tamale> tried 16bit color depth too
[07:04] <Double_D> tamale: done an apt-get update and apt-get upgrade?
[07:04] <yipe> hmmmmm
[07:04] <tamale> on what
[07:04] <blindx> Where is the xorg.conf file??
[07:05] <carthik> !info audacious
[07:05] <dli> blindx, /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:05] <tamale>    /etc/X11
[07:05] <yipe> /etc/X11
[07:05] <blindx> thanks.
[07:05] <ray_> back....
[07:05] <yipe> haha
[07:05] <Double_D> tamale: from a root window, do an apt-get update, then apt-get upgrade and i think it automatically upgrades any upgradeable packages on your system.
[07:05] <carthik> dli, dont you mean audacity?
[07:05] <yipe> multiple answers for the easy one
[07:05] <AngolaHacker> dancing in the moon light~~~
[07:05] <tamale> oh yah
[07:05] <dli> blindx, don't edit it, use tools to configure it
[07:05] <tamale> already have those
[07:05] <wd> how do i uninstall "opera" which i sudo dpkg -i (file.deb)
[07:05] <newtoubuntu> yipe:  whatch ya trying to do now?
[07:05] <bmw> allison: vfat is good,  I know that works
[07:05] <rocker> how can?
[07:05] <carthik> wd suao apt-get remove opera
[07:05] <blindx> dli: like what kind of tools/>
[07:05] <tamale> dii - what tool would be best for adding a resolution i know the monitor supports
[07:05] <blanky> !ati
[07:05] <ubotu> hmm... ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[07:05] <dli> carthik, no, http://audacious-media-player.org/
[07:06] <yipe> me? nothin' except help with what little I can
[07:06] <wd> carthik, thanx
[07:06] <dli> blindx, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:06] <yipe> and pick up whatever happens to come up
[07:06] <carthik> dli, packages.ubuntu.com/package-name should let you find out
[07:07] <newtoubuntu> yipe: yea If you wan't to try out Dapper as a seperet system and do some beta testing that'd be swell
[07:07] <allison_1984> bmw: this should do the job...I hope.. user,auto,fmask=0111,dmask=0000 ?
[07:07] <dli> carthik, didn't find it at packages.ubuntu.com
[07:07] <ray_> Shoot. Looks like the other guys left.
[07:07] <carthik> dli, then search for a substring, like audac  just to make sure if it's not there, it's not there yet
[07:07] <rocker> fofofofofof
[07:07] <wd> what's the best browser for ubuntu?
[07:07] <yipe> that's okay, I only have this one computer and I only JUST got breezy
[07:07] <ray_> Well, for anyone who can answer: I'm putting in GCC 3.3, but I get this message in the terminal: "You must set the environment variable CC to a working compiler."
[07:08] <rocker> no killer!!!!!!
[07:08] <carthik> ray_ install build-essential
[07:08] <dli> carthik, audacity should have been in ubuntu long ago
[07:08] <ray_> the other question; do I go about doing this in updatE?
[07:08] <carthik> dli, audacity is, audacious is not, apparently
[07:08] <ray_> update*
[07:08] <newtoubuntu> yipe: do you use gnome or KDE or somthing else?
[07:08] <dli> carthik, I want to find something like xmms and plays audioCD, I couldn't make xmms to play audio CD in ubuntu
[07:08] <ray_> I'm totally new to linux, so everything is quite hazy.
[07:08] <yipe> gnome
[07:09] <rocker> totallized
[07:09] <carthik> dli, after you have universe and ,ultiverse reops enabled, doing an $spt-cache search packgename shold tell you what's there and what's not
[07:09] <yipe> I have KDE installed for a few programs it has, but I mostly just use gnome
[07:09] <carthik> dli, doesnt xmms play audiocds???
[07:09] <dli> carthik, xmms doesn't play CD by default (needs cd input plugins), audacious plays audio CD by default, and quite similar to xmms
[07:09] <carthik> ray_ you mean using apt-get, you;d do a $sudo apt-get install build-essential
[07:10] <dli> carthik, or, you know the ubuntu way to play cd in xmms? I installed xmms-cdread, doesn't help
[07:10] <carthik> dli, oh I see, try the beep-media-player though it is too similar to xmms
[07:10] <dli> carthik, thanks
[07:10] <ray_> Thanks a ton carthik
[07:11] <carthik> dli, install $sudo apt-get install xmms-cdread
[07:11] <yipe> whoa, that guy was from NZ?
[07:11] <ray_> strange how another site claimed that you needed to install binaries -_-
[07:11] <yipe> I fell in love with a girl from NZ once
[07:11] <carthik> dli, i did a $apt-cache serach xmms | grep cd                to find out
[07:11] <dli> carthik, had done that, xmms still doesn't play
[07:11] <yipe> .... she moved back:(
[07:11] <carthik> dli, I'm sorry then, maybe you have to set some options somewhere
[07:11] <allison_1984> bmw: still around ?
[07:12] <carthik> ray_, you did install a bunch of binaries :)
[07:12] <dli> carthik, that's why I asked about audacious :(
[07:12] <carthik> dli, alright
[07:12] <ray_> Yeah but the ones addressed on the site was of a totally different sort of reference.
[07:12] <newtoubuntu> yipe: yea, there's another one called XFCE which is fast and cool to check out (I'm not realy roccomending it but you might want to try it)
[07:12] <sovieticool>  /msg nickserv set unfiltered on
[07:12] <ray_> "install binaries via build essential" would have been on-the-fricken-dot.
[07:12] <yipe> what is it you think I'm trying to do newtoubuntu?
[07:13] <newtoubuntu> yipe: nothing, I'm just making conversation
[07:13] <yipe> oh okay
[07:13] <hey560> wow lotsa people!
[07:13] <yipe> I was confused
[07:13] <yipe> yep
[07:13] <bmw> allison: sorry, I was trying find some info
[07:13] <yipe> ubuntu is quite popular, especially with the newbie sect
[07:14] <hey560> newbies are the majority, gotta cater to them
[07:14] <yipe> #1 linux on distro watch
[07:14] <carthik> dli, after installing hte plugin, add /dev/cdrom/ to your playlist is what the readme in the documentation says. So check if /dv/cdrom is symlinked to your cd player.
[07:14] <allison_1984> bmw: no probs
[07:14] <newtoubuntu> yea, It's clean and well made, and you dont need to go into the terminal much
[07:14] <dli> carthik, that's silly, not even a url like cdda:// ?
[07:14] <dli> carthik, maybe, I should try amarok
[07:14] <yipe> so far playing with the terminal is my favorite part:-D
[07:15] <hey560> what program u guys use for irc?
[07:15] <yipe> I feel so... tech-y
[07:15] <carthik> dli, it gets better, read the README.Debian file for info on how to enable and use
[07:15] <yipe> Xchat
[07:15] <Double_D> hey560: xchat.
[07:15] <bmw> allison: I think I used vfat expressively rather than auto but what you have is a good try
[07:15] <carthik> !offtopic
[07:15] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[07:15] <dli> carthik, in gentoo, they patch it to make an entry of "Play AudioCD" in menu
[07:16] <carthik> dli, you could file a bug request soething like that against the package, or submit a patch at launchpad.net
[07:16] <newtoubuntu> ubotu: oh sorry, I might go there
[07:16] <ubotu> newtoubuntu: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:16] <mlowe> how do i find what package has a file ?
[07:16] <tamale> YAHOOOOO!!!!    dli... the dpkg configuration utility correctly edited xorg.conf... and the resolution works now!!!    THANK YOU SOOO MUCH
[07:16] <allison_1984> bmw: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/655053
[07:16] <dli> carthik, I should file a bug report requesting audacious
[07:16] <allison_1984> bmw: I still do not have write access :(
[07:17] <carthik> dli, if you seaarch on the wiki you'll find how to request new software in the universe repo
[07:17] <dli> tamale, since ubuntu is based on debian, you should have known the debian style "RTFM" :(
[07:17] <blanky> hey guys, how can i terminate a process
[07:17] <carthik> dli, we hate four letter words in here :)
[07:17] <blanky> hey guys
[07:17] <blanky> how can I terminet firefox
[07:17] <blanky> the window's not up but it says it's still running
[07:17] <hey560> kill -s 9 <pid>
[07:17] <blanky> how may i do that
[07:17] <blanky> thanks
[07:17] <blanky> how may i find out the pid
[07:17] <allison_1984> bmw: hda5 is the one I want to to be able to RW
[07:18] <hey560> ps -A |grep <process name>
[07:18] <carthik> blanky, find the pid using ps aux | grep firefox , then do a $kill -9 PID
[07:18] <Rhine> Anyone know how to set up the audioscrobbler plugin in for RB
[07:18] <dli> blanky, if that's what you mean, command: pkill -9 firefox-bin
[07:18] <tamale> dli... what's debian ?
[07:18] <tamale> is it better?
[07:18] <hey560> debian is the distro that ubuntu is based on
[07:18] <carthik> blanky, and if you keep typing nonsense continuously, chances are, I, and the others won't answer next time. ask questions in one sentences and be polite
[07:18] <yipe> debian is another distobution of linux, ubuntu is based on it
[07:18] <johnnybezak> dli: a linux distribution. depends what for.
[07:18] <blanky> yay it works now thanks sir!
[07:18] <allison_1984> tamale: Debra and Ian > debian
[07:19] <blanky> Carthik, how was I not polite?
[07:19] <dli> tamale, anyway, remember not to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf manually, your changes will be forgotten when ubuntu upgrades
[07:19] <yipe> debian is well known for being the only linux with a constitution, for being created by a very large community (as opposed to say, red hat, which is made by one company, or ubuntu, made by canonical)
[07:19] <tamale> interesting
[07:19] <tamale> how can i get my 5 button mouse to work then
[07:19] <carthik> blanky, I'm sorry, but it help if you ask questions on one line :) take care.
[07:19] <tamale> i didn't see that option in the utility
[07:19] <Gau> canonical?
[07:19] <Rhine> Does anyone know how to set up Audioscrobbler for RB?
[07:19] <yipe> and for having a long and complex stability testing process
[07:20] <yipe> canonical makes ubuntu
[07:20] <Gau> Ah
[07:20] <Gau> Are they in the black? :p
[07:20] <yipe> I would assume so
[07:20] <dli> yipe, will ubuntu ships ubuntu dvds for free?
[07:21] <yipe> actually they do
[07:21] <yipe> www.ubuntu.com
[07:21] <tamale> dli, how do i make my forward / back buttons on my mouse work?
[07:21] <allison_1984> dli: I alreday gor mine shipped
[07:21] <yipe> I'd like to know that too tamale
[07:21] <Rhine> Does anyone know how to set up Audioscrobbler for RB?
[07:21] <Double_D> dli: heh. i work at an isp, we've got stacks of 'em laying around.
[07:21] <dli> tamale, not really sure about which protocol to use for that, I think it's a mouse protocol thing, but read a howto
[07:22] <tamale> they all involve manually editing xorg
[07:22] <tamale> that's why i'm asking someone who seems to know about utility editors
[07:22] <sfar> !mouse
[07:22] <ubotu> hmm... mouse is Enabling extra buttons  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ManyButtonsMouseHowto or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=65471&highlight=evdev Installing extra cursor themes can be done easily with gcursor
[07:22] <bmw> allison: did that work?
[07:23] <dli> Double_D, allison_1984 I didn't find any choice of DVD at https://shipit.ubuntu.com/myrequest
[07:23] <Double_D> dli: oh, i thought that was typo.  what dvds do you want from ubuntu?
[07:23] <Double_D> dli: thought you meant the live/install cd's.
[07:24] <dli> Double_D, so, you have a complete ubuntu without net :(
[07:24] <Double_D> dli: without net?  what do you mean?
[07:24] <dli> Double_D, I said DVD :( the whole debian release fits 3 DVD
[07:24] <dli> Double_D, without downloading any package, you got a complete installation
[07:25] <Madpilot> dli, shipit won't ship DVDs, but you can get DVD ISOs from the download area
[07:25] <Double_D> dli: oh.  no, we don't have any of those, never seen one.
[07:25] <pashminet> hi, could someone help me plz?
[07:25] <dli> pashminet, never ask to ask
[07:26] <Double_D> pashminet: just ask ;)
[07:26] <pashminet> thanks! well
[07:26] <pashminet> i burnt the cd, but my computer won't boot it
[07:26] <Double_D> pashminet: the install CD?  are you running windows or something right now?
[07:26] <dli> pashminet, burn with data verification
[07:27] <allison_1984> bmw: it is mounted, but I cannot write to the partition
[07:27] <dli> pashminet, try again, it should work
[07:27] <Giantkin> check your bios on your box as well...
[07:27] <pashminet> data verification? oh god i am so tired
[07:27] <Double_D> pashminet: you may also need to make sure that your box is set up to boot form the CD before HD.
[07:27] <Giantkin> ;0
[07:27] <Double_D> pashminet: per Giantkin.
[07:27] <pashminet> i've changed the bios
[07:27] <pashminet> giantkin? omg wtf ysl
[07:27] <Giantkin> ysl?
[07:28] <dli> allison_1984, try "mount -oremount,rw,uid=1000,gid=1000 /mnt/whatever"
[07:28] <pashminet> haha, yves saint laurent
[07:28] <Giantkin> erm
[07:28] <dli> allison_1984, if your uid is 1000 :)
[07:28] <Giantkin> my linux box, i had to use the really cool Net install setup.
[07:28] <dli> allison_1984, on ubuntu, add the crazy "sudo "
[07:28] <mlowe> no sound, yes i have checked the wikki , what to do next, i rember using alsaconf, not find it in alsa-utils ?
[07:28] <pashminet> yes, btw, i am running windows
[07:29] <blindx> Okay, I'm pissed.
[07:29] <blanky> !firefox1.5
[07:29] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[07:29] <blindx> I was just on, and connecting fine, right?
[07:29] <allison_1984> dli: sorry it was pack of 6 cds
[07:29] <blindx> now ubuntu won't connect to my ap anymore :@
[07:29] <blindx> it connects, then disconnects.
[07:29] <pashminet> so data verification should fix everything?
[07:29] <dli> mlowe, kernel alsa drivers loaded? do you have /proc/asound/cards ?
[07:29] <Double_D> pashminet: hopefully.
[07:29] <pashminet> thanks Double_D!
[07:29] <Giantkin> pash.  there could be other things that need done. :)
[07:29] <Double_D> pashminet: eh, thank dli.
[07:30] <Double_D> pashminet: his idea.
[07:30] <pashminet> Giantkin: like what? i'm going mad!
[07:30] <hey560> blindx: we need more info than that
[07:30] <pashminet> oops sorry dli
[07:30] <mlowe> dli yes proc has card0
[07:30] <Giantkin> Try that first, one step at a time.  dont fret it.  just go step by step.
[07:30] <Giantkin> i am def NOT a linux guy.
[07:30] <pashminet> ok, i'll try it
[07:30] <blanky> !ati
[07:31] <ubotu> ati is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[07:31] <dli> mlowe, ls -l /proc/asound
[07:31] <blindx> hey560: I'm pissed, so I'm not thinking clearly. What information would you like?
[07:31] <Giantkin> !unreal
[07:31] <ubotu> Giantkin: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:31] <Giantkin> heh cool
[07:31] <mlowe> dli which pastbin ?
[07:32] <zukero> !opera
[07:32] <ubotu> opera is, like, not in the Ubuntu repositories, but you can always download the latest Opera .deb package from http://www.opera.com/download/ and then see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser
[07:32] <dli> mlowe, if card0 is your audio card, check by "sudo lspci"
[07:32] <blindx> hey560?
[07:32] <hey560> blindx: have you checked the wiki site?
[07:32] <blindx> oh there you are :P
[07:32] <dli> mlowe, if it is, run, "alsamixer"
[07:32] <blindx> yes, i've checked the wiki site so many times, i could type out the page by memory
[07:32] <zukero> lol
[07:32] <Double_D> blindx: stupid question, what exactly is ap?
[07:32] <blindx> access point
[07:32] <Double_D> blindx: ah, right.
[07:33] <Double_D> blindx: hmm.  what exactly is it?  router?
[07:33] <hey560> if you got it to work before, it might be that your hardware is buggy
[07:33] <hey560> do you have problems in other OS's?
[07:33] <blindx> i don't run other os's
[07:33] <mlowe> lspci is in pastebin
[07:33] <blindx> it was working fine in windows.
[07:33] <Double_D> blindx: might be stupid suggestion, but have you checked your ifconfig to make sure you've got the right ip set to get to it?
[07:33] <blindx> it's set to dhcp Double_D
[07:34] <yipe> time to go to sleep
[07:34] <yipe> thanks for all the great info everybody:)
[07:34] <hey560> cya
[07:34] <blindx> nn yipe
[07:34] <hey560> what driver are you using
[07:34] <blindx> ...
[07:34] <hey560> and whats your chipset
[07:34] <blindx> RT2500 chipset.
[07:34] <blindx> it supports it out of the box.
[07:34] <blindx> ...supposedly.
[07:34] <Double_D> blindx: okay.  so, you can still check your ifoncfig to see what ip you're pulling.  if you're pulling a bull auto-assign ip that doesn't go anywhere, the problem is either connectivity or buggy hardware likely.
[07:35] <blindx> I was connected for like 20 minutes, then i rebooted.. now it won't connect anymore.
[07:35] <blindx> is the past tense of reboot rebooted or just.. reboot?
[07:35] <Double_D> blindx: okay, is your access point a router?  i'm not sure, actually, rebooted prolley.
[07:35] <dli> blindx, what's in "iwconfig" ?
[07:35] <blindx> yes, ap is a router
[07:36] <blindx> dli: im not sure, want me to check? (comp is in other room)
[07:36] <Double_D> blindx: do you have access to the router (physically)?
[07:36] <dli> blindx, can you get IP ?
[07:36] <blindx> yes i do
[07:36] <blindx> dli, i can
[07:36] <mlowe> dli, lspci is in pastebin ?
[07:36] <blindx> but then it disconnects almost immediately.
[07:36] <Double_D> blindx: okay, all else fails, reset the router, enter static ip for default config and get into the router and reconfig your network.
[07:36] <dli> blindx, then, can you ping router ?
[07:37] <Double_D> blindx: sucks, but sometimes routers just freeze up and need to be reset.
[07:37] <fulaano> #join debian
[07:37] <Double_D> fulaano: /join
[07:37] <blindx> while i have connection, i can
[07:37] <blindx> when it disconnects, i cannot
[07:37] <dli> mlowe, ls -l /proc/asound
[07:37] <mlowe> i just added it
[07:37] <Dralid> I need to burn an image (ISO) from a NTFS File System.  I have K3b, I can mount the drive under System/Administration/Disks but that only gives root access, I need to either modify access to the disk to allow the K3b to access, or the sudo command to copy the files onto the desktop. I am using ubuntu live.
[07:37] <Double_D> blindx: if your ifconfig has the ip of the router set as default gateway, try to ping it.  if it says 'destination host unreachable,' you've got poor connectivity likely.
[07:37] <Reno_8> ALOOOWWWWW
[07:38] <blindx> let me go try some stuff, i'll be back
[07:38] <Double_D> blindx: which might be fixed by resetting the router and doing all that junk.
[07:38] <Reno_8> alooowww
[07:38] <marek__> !cedega
[07:39] <dli> mlowe, run: alsamixer
[07:39] <allison_1984> bmw: its working now.... :)
[07:39] <bmw> allison: Great! What was it?
[07:40] <mlowe> dli, looks like the all have volume
[07:40] <jadaz87> !photoshop
[07:40] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, jadaz87
[07:40] <Reno_8> what are you talking about?
[07:40] <jadaz87> !psd
[07:40] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, jadaz87
[07:40] <dli> mlowe, and not muted ?
[07:40] <marek__> !photoshop
[07:40] <Double_D> hahahhahhahaah.
[07:40] <Reno_8> can i join in your party?
[07:40] <dli> mlowe, if so, try "aplay /dev/urandom"
[07:40] <Madpilot> Reno_8, this is Ubuntu's tech support channel - if you want to just chat, try #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:41] <LathropWells> lol
[07:41] <Reno_8> lol
[07:41] <Madpilot> jadaz87, you might have better luck asking an actual question, rather than quizzing the bot :P
[07:41] <mlowe> dli, what does the muted look likke ?
[07:41] <Reno_8> like a silent peace
[07:42] <Double_D> Madpilot: guess he didn't like your advice....
[07:42] <Madpilot> Double_D, ah well, nothing we can do about that
[07:42] <Dralid> Please help: I need to burn an image (ISO) from a NTFS File System.  I have K3b, I can mount the drive under System/Administration/Disks but that only gives root access, I need to either modify access to the disk to allow the K3b to access, or the sudo command to copy the files onto the desktop. I am using ubuntu live.
[07:42] <mlowe> dli, nothing from aplay
[07:43] <allison_1984> bmw: lol...it was just umount and mount..and voila..I have write access
[07:43] <Double_D> say, i have a question.  i'd like to uninstall totem, and if i try to do a basic uninstall i get an error that other programs are depending on it and i need to do advanced uninstall.  now i'm still kinda new to linux so that sort of freaks me out.  any pointers on how to go about this?
[07:43] <dli> mlowe, it shows "M" at the bottom, type "m" in alsamixer and see
[07:43] <pashminet> it didn't work! i will kill myself!
[07:43] <Double_D> pashminet: chill!
[07:43] <mlowe> dli, nothing muted !
[07:44] <pashminet> *chills*
[07:44] <Double_D> pashminet: okay, so we burned with data verification and BIOS is set to boot from CD-rom before HD.
[07:44] <Double_D> pashminet: correct?
[07:44] <pashminet> Double_D: correct.
[07:44] <Double_D> pashminet: can you see the CD in My Computer?
[07:44] <bmw> allison: ah, those simple things
[07:44] <pashminet> Double_D: yup.
[07:44] <dli> mlowe, you never told me whether "ls -l /proc/asound" shows your audio card
[07:44] <Double_D> pashminet: okay, let me stew on it for a minute, maybe i'll be struck by lightning.
[07:45] <dli> mlowe, try gnome-volume-manager
[07:45] <pashminet> Double_D: hope so!
[07:45] <allison_1984> bmw: anyway till the next time :)
[07:46] <mlowe> dli, ls -l /proc/asound is after the lspci in pastebin
[07:46] <Double_D> pashminet: two questions: it boots straight to windows?  and you only have one CD-rom?
[07:46] <pashminet> Double_D: yes and yes.
[07:46] <blindx> Okay, got it working. :\
[07:46] <Double_D> pashminet: okay.  what's the source you're using the burn the CD?
[07:46] <anita> hai
[07:47] <Double_D> pashminet: i'm guessing you don't have a regular install CD?  we are speaking install CD, correct?
[07:47] <blindx> now, whats that program for mounting ntfs hd's?
[07:47] <blindx> discmount or something of the sort?
[07:47] <pashminet> Double_D: live cd, actually
[07:47] <anita> hai
[07:47] <LathropWells> A peek at the BIOS to see what drive it uses as the first in boot sequence should help.
[07:47] <Gareth> hm will selecting the opteron/athlon64/k8 processor family in qconf mean that I compile a 64bit kernel?
[07:47] <dli> mlowe, you never show me any pastbin link :(
[07:47] <Double_D> pashminet: ah.  okay.
[07:47] <pashminet> Double_D: that i downloaded from the homepage
[07:47] <thoreauputic> !tell blindx about mountwindows
[07:47] <Double_D> pashminet: okay.
[07:47] <Rhine> What repository is FAAC in?
[07:48] <Rhine> !MP3
[07:48] <ubotu> mp3 is probably a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:48] <mlowe> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12071
[07:48] <Rhine> thank you
[07:48] <hey560> i highly recommend people rip their CD's in either FLAC or OGG
[07:48] <blindx> thats not the one, thoreauputic
[07:48] <thoreauputic> blindx: well, I just use /etc/fstab and the mount command...
[07:48] <Double_D> pashminet: what's the order of your boots in BIOS, do you remember?
[07:49] <Double_D> pashminet: i know you said CD-rom is before HD, but what's the actual order?
[07:49] <thoreauputic> blindx: what were you looking for?
[07:49] <pashminet> cd/dvd, hdd, something something, lan
[07:49] <blindx> im not sure.
[07:49] <LathropWells> blinds - open synaptic and search ntfs - ntfsprogs is in there if you need write access to an ntfs filesystem. ubuntu will give you read-only access out of the box with no tweaking. else, check this link for mounting all available disk parttions aur-magically.
[07:49] <blindx> i'd just seen it referenced to in here with a !
[07:49] <LathropWells> !diskmounter
[07:49] <ubotu> I guess diskmounter is to automatically mount your ntfs, fat32 or hfs+ drives, download and read http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter
[07:49] <blindx> thats the one
[07:49] <Double_D> pashminet: hmmm.  prolley cd/dvd, hd, removeable, lan; then, i'm guessing.  try putting removeable ahead of HD as well.  who knows.
[07:49] <thoreauputic> LathropWells: yes, that's the same one ubotu sent him from me though :)
[07:50] <Dralid> Is there a queue before me, or did I just ask too tough a question?
[07:50] <Rhine> Wow Ubuntu is so much nicer in the way you get and install programs :)
[07:50] <thoreauputic> !patience
[07:50] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Please be aware there are a lot of questions, but only maybe few who might know the answer for you. Please be patient. Your attitude may determine their willingness to help you.
[07:50] <pashminet> Double_D: i've tried that too. god, this is so annoying
[07:50] <Double_D> pashminet: also, could be something nasty on your system that doesn't want you to boot from CD.
[07:50] <Double_D> pashminet: done a virus scan?
[07:50] <dli> mlowe, I suppose your alsa is up, run: gnome-volume-control
[07:50] <pashminet> Double_D: yes, this morning actually
[07:50] <LathropWells> !botsnack
[07:50] <ubotu> thanks lathropwells :)
[07:50] <Double_D> pashminet: hmm.
[07:50] <pashminet> Double_D: well, now i have to go to work. thanks for the help!!!
[07:50] <dli> mlowe, something muted there, it should show your intel card also
[07:51] <Double_D> pashminet: heh.  fat lot of help i was.
[07:51] <Double_D> pashminet: if you see around later, i'll keep thinking about it.
[07:51] <pashminet> Double_D: well it was nice talking to you anyway :)))
[07:51] <Dralid> Thank you, ubotu (I know its a bot) (I've never IRC'd before, I'm new)
[07:51] <thoreauputic> Dralid: so what was the question? I missed it evidently
[07:51] <Dralid> I need to burn an image (ISO) from a NTFS File System.  I have K3b, I can mount the drive under System/Administration/Disks but that only gives root access, I need to either modify access to the disk to allow the K3b to access, or the sudo command to copy the files onto the desktop. I am using ubuntu live.
[07:51] <Double_D> say, i have a question.  i'd like to uninstall totem, and if i try to do a basic uninstall i get an error that other programs are depending on it and i need to do advanced uninstall.  now i'm still kinda new to linux so that sort of freaks me out.  any pointers on how to go about this?
[07:52] <mlowe> dli, ICH5 is sym link to card0 ?
[07:52] <LathropWells> Dralid - would gksudo k3b work?
[07:52] <Rhine> Double_D System>Administration>Symantic
[07:52] <Rhine> Double_D Search of Totem and then uninstall from there
[07:52] <Double_D> Rhine: that's what asks me to the advanced uninstall.
[07:53] <Rhine> Weird ill uninstall it on mine real quick
[07:53] <dli> mlowe, unmute and increase volume for everything in: gnome-volume-control
[07:53] <leeyee> Hi, guys
[07:53] <Double_D> Rhine: AHHH!  says ubuntu-desktop goes with it!
[07:53] <tonyyarusso> I finally got around to modifying my fstab so my ntfs drive was mounted with user access, and now I have an icon for it on my desktop.  Funny thing is, I don't have icons for any of my other partitions.  Why is that?
[07:53] <leeyee> I'm new here, and new to ubuntu too
[07:54] <Rhine> Double_D you dont need it unless your updating
[07:54] <dli> mlowe, now, time to check your speaker connections, power, volume, sockets, everything
[07:54] <Rhine> Double_D at that time then reinstall it
[07:54] <Double_D> Rhine: i won't lose my X?
[07:54] <blanky> to install flash, i go to http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash ?
[07:54] <Rhine> Double_D You shouldn't I had to do the same thing last night
[07:54] <Double_D> Rhine: okay, i'll do it and then reinstall ubuntu-desktop.
[07:54] <thoreauputic> tonyyarusso: are the others auto mounted ? (Is there an "auto" option for them in /etc/fstab) ?
[07:54] <yosef> which is the best file system for a shared linux-windows box? only FAT?
[07:55] <leeyee> anyone who knows how to update openoffice shipped with ubuntu 5.10 to 2.0?
[07:55] <me2win> yosef: ext3
[07:55] <thoreauputic> tonyyarusso: as far as I know, they will only show when actually mounted
[07:55] <mlowe> dli, rechecking it all
[07:55] <dli> yosef, for dual boot, you can use ext2fsd.sf.net
[07:55] <Madpilot> tonyyarusso, because MS stuff is "special" - remember the "special ed" kids at school, in the short bus? :P
[07:55] <Dralid> Darn, gksudo k3b gave me an error "No Space left on Device" (would you like the whole text?)
[07:55] <yosef> dli, thats for windows to read ext3?
[07:55] <Rhine> Hey its MadPilot thanks for the help last night
[07:55] <tonyyarusso> thoreauputic: Yes.  And they are all mounted currently
[07:55] <Double_D> leeyee: apt-get update; apt-get upgrade might do the trick.
[07:55] <dli> yosef, yes, also rfsd.sf.net but not as stable as ext2fsd
[07:55] <Isil`Zha> hi. i have a problem with aptitude being unable to fetch a package. it seems to only have a problem with this specific one (edict). it basically just keeps fetching headers finally giving up with a "connection failed" message. it does try two servers
[07:56] <Rhine> For some reason after i rebooted rhythmbox decided to work
[07:56] <dli> yosef, to read and write
[07:56] <blindx> So... I have some other Hard drives in my computer..... how do I access those?
[07:56] <leeyee> hmmm.....let me see
[07:56] <thoreauputic> tonyyarusso: hmm - odd - and they are all mounted somewhere in /media ?
[07:56] <yosef> dli, stable?
[07:56] <hey560> !ntfs
[07:56] <ubotu> I heard ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[07:56] <tonyyarusso> Madpilot: Okay, but MS has nothing to do with my fstab, all it is now is files, nothing running.  Can their specialness really extend its power even then?
[07:56] <dli> yosef, ext2fsd is very stable
[07:56] <tonyyarusso> thoreauputic: No, /windows, /interchange, /multimedia, and /home.
[07:57] <dli> yosef, read howto at the package
[07:57] <Rhine> Why are my songs not being imported into Rhthym Box it just scans and adds nothing
[07:57] <thoreauputic> tonyyarusso: Bill GAtes has infiltrated your PC ;-)
[07:57] <Madpilot> tonyyarusso, well, it's an NTFS partition, isn't it? ;) (Seriously, I've no idea, I've never run NTFS on Linux)
[07:57] <Double_D> Rhine: dangit.  if i try to install ubuntu-desktop, it adds totem!
[07:57] <tonyyarusso> thoreauputic: Oh no!  Better call the exorcist tomorrow.
[07:57] <Rhine> Double_D just leave it uninstalled you dont need it
[07:57] <tonyyarusso> Madpilot: Ah, all right.
[07:57] <dli> yosef, still better, you don't need windows for good
[07:57] <Double_D> Rhine: okay.
[07:57] <Double_D> Rhine: i'll trust ya'.
[07:57] <Double_D> :)
[07:58] <yosef> i do need windows...  cest la vie
[07:58] <pashminet> Double_D: progress!
[07:58] <Dralid> thoreauptic: Darn, gksudo k3b gave me an error "No Space left on Device" (would you like the whole text?)
[07:58] <Double_D> pashminet: ooh, what happened?
[07:58] <tonyyarusso> thoreauputic: Actually, a lot of these just have 'defaults', but isn't auto one of the default options?
[07:58] <seraphim> yes it is
[07:58] <Double_D> Rhine: thanks, btw.
[07:58] <pashminet> Double_D: i changed the bootingorder and now it stops and thinks for a while then says "no boot something something"
[07:58] <pashminet> and then it exits and windows starts
[07:58] <Rhine> No Problem
[07:58] <Double_D> pashminet: yes, that is progress.
[07:59] <thoreauputic> tonyyarusso: hmm - usually I think - I don't auto mount things on boot so I don't know for sure
[07:59] <Double_D> pashminet: i suppose it doesn't give you long enough to actually read it, though, does it?
[07:59] <Rhine> Can someone help me with RB I add files but it deems them invalid
[07:59] <tonyyarusso> thoreauputic: Okay, I guess I'll play around with that.
[07:59] <pashminet> Double_D: exactly
[07:59] <Double_D> pashminet: wait, you might be able to see something in event viewer, can't remember if that shows boot processes or not (prolley not).
[07:59] <blanky> SOMEBODY HELP ME! sorry for caps, but i installed flash player through firefox, and the flash menus are behind other flash objects! and they're not supposed to be! (checked in windows)
[08:00] <pashminet> event wiever?
[08:00] <yosef> dli, ext2fsd patches the win kernel... I think I'll stick with FAT. You wouldn't happen to know if I can mount xfs in windows?
[08:00] <pashminet> viewer rather
[08:00] <mlowe> dli, got it a plug fell out , my BAD
[08:00] <Double_D> pashminet: control panels>adminstrator tools>event viewer
[08:00] <dli> blanky, that's not a reason to use capital
[08:00] <Double_D> pashminet: very helpful little dealy-ma-jig.
[08:00] <Dralid> thoreauputic: Sorry, you couldn't help me, I'm out of time, but thank you very much for trying.
[08:00] <mlowe> dli, thanyou !!
[08:00] <dli> mlowe, my fault, I forgot the second common cause of silence
[08:01] <tonyyarusso> thoreauputic: Well, removing the auto doesn't make it go away, so I guess it will take more than just that to figure out anyway.
[08:01] <Rhine> !MP3
[08:01] <ubotu> well, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:01] <dmizer> can someone help me print to a networked printer?
[08:01] <Madpilot> Rhine, that's why I moved to Muine from RB, because RB wasn't indexing my music directory anymore
[08:01] <blanky> sorry Dli
[08:01] <pashminet> nothing! *MENTAL*
[08:01] <Double_D> pashminet: i believe the most recent event logs are at the top of the list.  but i'm not certain at all that it shows boot processes.
[08:02] <dli> yosef, no idea, I tried ex2fsd, very stable, tried rfsd, got the famouse blue screen, I deleted windows long ago anyway
[08:02] <Double_D> pashminet: ack.
[08:02] <Rhine> Madpilot It worked last night o.O
[08:02] <thoreauputic> tonyyarusso: not sure if gnome is smart enough to see mount points like /foo ( although apparently it is seeing /windows so that may be totally wrong)
[08:02] <Double_D> pashminet: okay.  so, it's at least looking somewhere for a boot before the HD after you switched the BIOS around.  do you recall what order you switched to?
[08:02] <tonyyarusso> thoreauputic: No idea what's up with it.  Shall have to be and experiment.
[08:03] <pashminet> Double_D: cd/dvd, fdd (?), lan, hdd
[08:03] <vladuz976> does linux use system V init scripts?
[08:03] <yosef> dli, thanks but i'm staying with FAT, may not be journaled, but at least i don't have to mess with windows kernel thnx
[08:03] <vladuz976> i meant ubuntu?
[08:03] <Double_D> pashminet: fdd?  hmm.
[08:03] <thoreauputic> tonyyarusso: my nfs mounts in /mnt  show up when mounted, as do the /media ones
[08:03] <Rhine> Anyone know if podzilla supports Ogg?
[08:03] <Double_D> pashminet: what all do you have for drives in that box?
[08:03] <Double_D> pashminet: hard, zip, A, cd, etc.  all of 'em.
[08:03] <thoreauputic> tonyyarusso: I can't see any * a priori* reason why other mount points should be ignored....
[08:04] <pashminet> Double_D: are you perhaps from sweden? that would be nice
[08:04] <Double_D> pashminet: hehe.  nope, iowa here.
[08:04] <Rhine> Madpilot Do you know if there is a AAC/.m4a plugin for Muine its what keeps me from using it
[08:05] <pashminet> Double_D: two partitions, cd/dvd, that's it
[08:05] <leeyee> Hi, i'm wondering what's the meaning of "apt-get update"?
[08:05] <Double_D> pashminet: however, i do work at an isp and have access to stacks of these live/install cd's.  so, if worse comes to worse, i could always mail you one.  of course, you could request that ubuntu mail you one as well.
[08:05] <dmizer> my ubuntu box can't ping my networked printer.  i can browse the network, and windows machines print to it fine.
[08:05] <leeyee> and "apt-get upgrade"?
[08:05] <Madpilot> Rhine, don't think so, but I've got no music in that format, so I really don't know
[08:05] <leeyee> what's the difference
[08:05] <pashminet> Double_D: that is so sweet!
[08:05] <Double_D> pashminet: hmm.  fdd might be a different partition or something then.
[08:05] <Rhine> =.= Stupid apple dominance made me put half my collection in that format
[08:05] <crimsun> Rhine: gstreamer0.8-faad if you're on breezy
[08:05] <Double_D> pashminet: let me look on my case, here, there's a url or email address or something to request they ship you a CD.
[08:06] <pashminet> Double_D: ok now i really have to go to work, maybe i'll see you later!
[08:06] <Madpilot> pashminet, shipit.ubuntu.com
[08:06] <Double_D> pashminet: wait!
[08:06] <Double_D> pashminet: yeah, per Madpilot.
[08:06] <p01n7> dmizer, have you tried putting a DMZ on that host?
[08:06] <pashminet> thanx! :D:D:D)))
[08:06] <hey560> anyone know if gaim2.0 is gonna be in 6.06 final?
[08:07] <Rhine> do i have to reboot for the FAAC and FAAD to take effect?
[08:07] <dli> hey560, it's not released by gaim.sf.net yet
[08:08] <atsi> hi
[08:08] <hey560> hmm, i guess it depends on the gaim guys getting their 2.0 out of beta ><
[08:09] <Madpilot> Rhine, no. you might have to restart whatever app you want to use the new stuff, though
[08:09] <Rhine> Hope Muine works I like the interface and album art so much better than RB
[08:09] <blindx> lol I've become so accustomed to WinKey commands, and they don't do anything in linux >.<
[08:09] <blindx> is there a way to set up macros for the winkey?
[08:09] <Double_D> blindx: i hear ya' on that one.
[08:09] <Rhine> The windows key should do something special in Ubuntu :)
[08:09] <atsi> i installed ubuntu from cd and i have downloaded the three dvds from http://cargol.net/~ramon/ubuntu-dvd-en. the default installation has gnome only. is there any way to install kde? is it included in the three set dvds?
[08:10] <atsi> plz prefix
[08:10] <blindx> it doesn't do anything for me, rhine
[08:10] <Double_D> blindx: ctrl+alt+del... oh, wait....
[08:10] <hey560> the win key should bring up the blue screen of death
[08:10] <blindx> lol
[08:10] <johnnybezak> atsi: it's like kde base or something like that, go to #kubuntu
[08:11] <MistaED> hey does anyone know of an easy to use program or programs for linux/ubuntu which allows taking photos from a webcam and then putting them together in a sequence (with the option to set the fps)?
[08:11] <LathropWells> dunno good question
[08:11] <MistaED> there's a computer in the trad. animation class at my college which is running win98 and i was thinking of putting ubuntu on it
[08:11] <LathropWells> !webcam
[08:11] <ubotu> webcam is, like, now easy to install, per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam - webcam support soon to be available in  gaim-vv.
[08:11] <blindx> Okay, I don't know what I'm doing, and I want to compile a program :\
[08:12] <Double_D> !wmv
[08:12] <ubotu> it has been said that restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[08:12] <LathropWells> buildessential is a meta-package that includes likely all you will need but a programming IDE
[08:12] <Rhine> I just love the bot here
[08:12] <Madpilot> !b-e
[08:12] <ubotu> b-e is, like, no make ?  you need build-essential or if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, you need to do a    sudo aptitude install build-essential.
[08:13] <Double_D> Rhine: me, too.  very helpful liittle guy.
[08:13] <harisund> Rhine: I too like ubotu very much !
[08:13] <johnnybezak> he's alright :P
[08:13] <Double_D> !FreeFormats
[08:13] <ubotu> There are a large number of Free Formats which are preferred over patent and copyright encumbered formats. They are listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[08:13] <LathropWells> !cafuego
[08:13] <ubotu> LathropWells: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:13] <blindx> Okay, I don't know what I'm doing, and I want to compile a program :\ (I have build-essential)
[08:14] <Rhine> I don't know what I would do with out synaptic its like Add/Remove programs on steroids
[08:14] <vladuz976> Rhine: are you using iPodLinux ?
[08:14] <LathropWells> ubotu cafuego is the geneous human that keeps you running smoothly.
[08:14] <ubotu> okay, LathropWells
[08:14] <harisund> Rhine: Did you know Ubotu does this?
[08:14] <harisund> !goo'boy
[08:14] <ubotu> Aw, thanks dad!
[08:14] <tonyyarusso> blindx: You could always configure xbindkeys and do some other stuff so that pressing the Winkey pops up a big red alert window that says "Blasphemy!" and shuts down the computer.  ;)
[08:14] <Double_D> Rhine: lol  yeah, me likey synaptic.
[08:14] <blindx> tonyyarusso, or i could NOT :P
[08:14] <blindx> I'd never be online anymore
[08:14] <Double_D> Rhine: what?  you want to install something?  yo!  here you go!
[08:14] <blindx> winkey+d.. aw shit..
[08:14] <blindx>  :P
[08:14] <tonyyarusso> blindx: I'm sure youd learn quickly.
[08:15] <Rhine> Yes i run ipl
[08:15] <blindx> you'd think
[08:15] <blindx> but nope
[08:15] <dli> LathropWells, most amazing thing to me, cafuego was the one saying "ubuntu is not debian", now, himself is in ubuntu
[08:15] <blindx> okay, i need some help compiling a program. who's down?
[08:15] <Rhine> blind cd to the folder and type in the file name and make at the end
[08:15] <slavik> ubuntu is debian ... a very different one
[08:16] <slavik> one that is not elitist
[08:16] <bimberi> !compile
[08:16] <ubotu> A nice howto about compiling software from source code can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (but remember to search !apt first, after adding all the !repos)
[08:16] <LathropWells> dunno - if he says so. - very happy to easily install a *.deb file in Ubuntu.
[08:16] <dli> slavik, try to ask ubunut in #debian :)
[08:17] <slavik> dli: I like to live :)
[08:17] <Rhine> RB better not crash after only loading 1500 songs again
[08:17] <slavik> anyone want my cool little perl script?
[08:17] <vijay> hi, i have a small home network, and how to share my internet connection?
[08:17] <LathropWells> debbie and Ian have earned my undieing gratitude also.
[08:17] <dli> Rhine, can you try amarok, it works great :)
[08:17] <slavik> buy a router
[08:17] <Rhine> Does it work with last.fm dli?
[08:18] <blindx> blind@bl4ckh0le:~/Desktop/linpal-0.5$ ./configure
[08:18] <blindx> bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[08:18] <blindx>  :\
[08:18] <dli> Rhine, give me a sample file, I will test for you
[08:18] <tonyyarusso> blindx: Did you make configure executable yet?
[08:18] <Rhine> dli *Confused*
[08:18] <dli> blindx, read "README", "INSTALL", etc
[08:18] <Double_D> blindx: are you doing that command from a root terminal?
[08:18] <dli> Rhine, I don't have any .fm
[08:18] <blindx> yes, double_d
[08:18] <Rhine> Oh its a website
[08:19] <Rhine> http://www.last.fm
[08:19] <Rhine> No dang it did it manual music add time
[08:19] <blindx> no readme, no install..
[08:19] <blindx> there's a Makefile
[08:21] <dli> Rhine, no, I hate signup :(
[08:21] <Rhine> Its ok Ill check it out on my own time
[08:22] <Rhine> Where can I find some themes for Breezy?
[08:22] <thoreauputic> !tell Rhine about themes
[08:22] <Rhine> Thank you thoreauputic
[08:22] <thoreauputic> Rhine: no worries :)
[08:23] <Rhine> I like to thank everyone you guys are very helpful and courtious
[08:24] <LathropWells> thoreauputic, - firefox isn't playing nice with my Gnome theme (text color on menus needs to be changed)can you point me to a link?
[08:24] <christian1832> hello
[08:25] <christian1832> I was wondering if someone could explain to me how, in laymans terms, to get the plugins to listen to regular sounds, like wav files, etc
[08:25] <thoreauputic> LathropWells: hmm - no sorry: I guess FF isn't fully gnome-compliant (probably depends what FF them you are using though)
[08:25] <thoreauputic> *theme
[08:25] <dli> christian1832, no hello, hi, bonjour, or anything, just ask your questions
[08:26] <Rhine> !tell christian1832 about MP3
[08:26] <thoreauputic> christian1832: .wav  should play out of the box
[08:26] <Rhine> I think he meant other things more importantly
[08:26] <thoreauputic> right
[08:26] <LathropWells> Allright. Thank You.  ( Customising Gnome has me awestruck with its versatility.)
[08:27] <thoreauputic> !restricted
[08:27] <ubotu> hmm... restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[08:27] <thoreauputic> hmm
[08:27] <sfar> dli: i think its ok to say hello.......
[08:27] <christian1832> i DLd a wav file to play when I receive mail, and when I tried to open it, it failed
[08:27] <dli> thoreauputic, try mplayer (too much for .wav), xmms, amarok ,
[08:27] <Double_D> !reformat
[08:27] <ubotu> Double_D: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:27] <christian1832> it tried to open in Totem, btu I got an error
[08:27] <noaXess> !kernel
[08:27] <thoreauputic> dli: I didn't ask the question :)
[08:27] <noaXess> hi all..
[08:27] <dli> sfar, no, we are not civilized yet, we are freaks around the globe
[08:27] <noaXess> whats the newest kernel in kubuntu 5.1?
[08:28] <Double_D> christian1832: mplayer or vlc might work for you.
[08:28] <Rhine> VLC is your best bet it plays EVERYTHING
[08:28] <thoreauputic> noaXess: 2.6.12-10
[08:28] <dli> noaXess, if you want the newest kernel, install kernel-package, and build your own
[08:28] <christian1832> shouldnt ubuntu have the ability to play wav without another program
[08:28] <christian1832> ?
[08:28] <jsgotangco> thoreauputic: hey!
[08:28] <Double_D> Rhine: really? when wasthe last time you tried to play wmv in vlc?
[08:28] <Double_D> Rhine: cuz i can't get it to work for the life of me.
[08:28] <noaXess> thoreauputic: ok.. mine is the same
[08:28] <blindx> forgot how to install .deb files.....
[08:29] <thoreauputic> hi jsgotangco  :)
[08:29] <blindx> sudo dpkg -i name ?
[08:29] <noaXess> dli: no.. i want only them from the updates
[08:29] <dli> christian1832, "aplay foo.wav"
[08:29] <christian1832> ill try that
[08:29] <Rhine> Double_D I stay away from anything WMV Its evil
[08:29] <christian1832> one second
[08:29] <hey560> http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/base/
[08:29] <Double_D> Rhine: aso.
[08:29] <LathropWells> lol@Rhine
[08:29] <christian1832> aplay mail.wav
[08:29] <christian1832> aplay: test_wavefile:714: can't play not PCM-coded WAVE-files
[08:30] <Rhine> How long should GNOME backgrounds take to install?
[08:30] <christian1832> thats the error
[08:30] <atsi> how can i install other window managers apart from kde and gnome?
[08:30] <thoreauputic> Rhine: a split second?
[08:30] <thoreauputic> Rhine: you mean to download?
[08:30] <Rhine> Im so scared of filling this Hardrive its only 6GB and 3 is taken by the install o.O
[08:31] <Double_D> Rhine: are you talking wallpapers or what?
[08:31] <blindx> ubuntu is based on Debian, right?
[08:31] <Rhine> Yes to download its been going for a while o.o No Backgrounds
[08:31] <christian1832> anyone know what is wrong?
[08:31] <slavik> yes
[08:31] <dli> Rhine, "apt-get clean"
[08:31] <Double_D> Rhine: cuz i've only got an 8G HD and i've got about a dozen wallpapers, no problem.
[08:31] <thoreauputic> atsi: search synaptic for example for window maker, fluxbox, enlightenment
[08:31] <blindx> So if I wanted to download VLC, click the "Debian GNU/Linux" link, correct?
[08:31] <Double_D> Rhine: maybe should xkill it.
[08:31] <slavik> blindx: try the repos
[08:31] <dli> Double_D, 8GB is more than enough for most
[08:31] <thoreauputic> blindx: no, use synaptic or apt
[08:31] <Mangusta> blindx, run apt-get install vlc
[08:31] <thoreauputic> !info vlc
[08:31] <Double_D> dli: indeed.  why do you think i still have it? :P
[08:31] <ubotu> vlc: (multimedia player for all audio and video formats), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.8.4-svn20050920-3+hal0ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 5817 kB, Installed size: 13740 kB
[08:32] <Double_D> dli: 32% used :D
[08:32] <thoreauputic> blindx: you'll need the universe repo
[08:32] <thoreauputic> !tell blindx about repos
[08:32] <hey560> !universe
[08:32] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[08:33] <christian1832> HELLO?
[08:33] <followmearound> so I have a userspace nfsv4 server running (rpcinfo -p shows "    100003    4   tcp   2049  nfs") ... but when I run mount -t nfs, I get "mount: RPC: Program not registered," and when I do mount -t nfs4, I get "mount: wrong fs type, bad option ..." ... I have no idea why
[08:33] <followmearound> I have hosts.allow set to ALL : ALL I think
[08:33] <Double_D> christian1832 just download mplayer or vlc.
[08:33] <christian1832> how do i go about DLding mplayer?
[08:33] <Double_D> christian1832 it really is your least painful option, i'm sure.
[08:33] <blanky> hey guys
[08:33] <Double_D> christain1832 search for mplayer in synaptic.
[08:33] <slavik> !synaptic
[08:33] <blanky> how can i know what processes are running, how can i list the processes
[08:33] <ubotu> synaptic is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[08:34] <Double_D> christian1832: then mark for installation and apply.
[08:34] <thoreauputic> christian1832: first enable your repositories
[08:34] <bimberi> blanky: ps aux
[08:34] <slavik> blanky: ps
[08:34] <Double_D> blanky: cat /proc/meminfo
[08:34] <Concretesledge> hello
[08:34] <Rhine> If i want to change the look of windows which do i browse in GNOME art?
[08:34] <Concretesledge> says bash: /etc/init.d/net.eth0: No such file or directory
[08:34] <Concretesledge> Can someone please assist me with installing a bridged network through VmWare workstation, using Ubuntu
[08:34] <blindx> whats the line to change file permissions? chmod?
[08:34] <thoreauputic> Rhine: probably "metacity" themes
[08:34] <slavik> blindx: yes
[08:34] <dli> Concretesledge, /etc/init.d/networking restart
[08:34] <blanky> thanks guys
[08:35] <thoreauputic> Rhine: for window borders etc
[08:35] <ReWT_AxS> i want to get direct rendering but i dont know how :(
[08:35] <ReWT_AxS> ive tried everything
[08:35] <Rhine> Danke
[08:35] <todd> how to i remove kasbar
[08:35] <bimberi> blindx: yes chmod
[08:35] <Mangusta> blindx, chmod [perm]  [filename] 
[08:35] <todd> how to i remove kasbar
[08:35] <thoreauputic> bimberi: hi :)
[08:35] <bimberi> blindx: chown (to change user/group ownership)
[08:35] <dli> ReWT_AxS, checked kernel agpgart ? dri? dri in xorg.conf ?
[08:35] <Rhine> todd are you asking how to remove it?
[08:35] <Mangusta> how installed todd?
[08:35] <bimberi> hi thoreauputic :)
[08:35] <Double_D> whoa.  ps aux is tight.
[08:35] <thoreauputic> bimberi: your cloak suits you ;)
[08:35] <slavik> Double_D: ctrl+alt+delete :)
[08:35] <Concretesledge> ok ,  it said ok
[08:35] <todd> how to remove it i dont want it on my desktop anymore
[08:36] <slavik> een tighter
[08:36] <ReWT_AxS> dli, noob here, don't have a clue what you're talking about
[08:36] <Double_D> slavik: heh.  okay.... wait a second....
[08:36] <Concretesledge> dli it said ok
[08:36] <christian1832> is there  a way to sudo mplayer with synaptic in the terminal
[08:36] <blindx> okay... it says to install VLC to add a source to your etc/apt/sources.list file
[08:36] <Concretesledge> how do i exit out of the black terminal
[08:36] <blindx> then run apt-get update, etc etc etc
[08:36] <bimberi> thoreauputic: thanks! a double-cloak - just in time for winter :P
[08:36] <slavik> sudo mplayer?
[08:36] <blindx> but i can't add it?
[08:36] <Double_D> Concretesledge: 'exit'
[08:36] <Madpilot> todd, what's "kasbar"?
[08:36] <Mangusta> todd, try: sudo apt-get remove kasbar
[08:36] <blindx> it won't let me save the file
[08:36] <RayFredPip> _jason, Hi
[08:36] <RayFredPip> _jason, you are here!
[08:36] <christian1832> like you can install programs using sudo apt-get or something right?
[08:36] <Mangusta> blindx, you have to sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:36] <slavik> mplayer doesn't need to save nything
[08:36] <christian1832> basically i was wondering if there was a way to install mplayer from the terminal
[08:36] <thoreauputic> !tell christian1832 about docs
[08:37] <christian1832> rather than the GUI
[08:37] <Mangusta> sudo, so superuser can write the file
[08:37] <wd> how do i install gnome art in terminal
[08:37] <todd> its that thing that shows whats ruuning on ur box
[08:37] <thoreauputic> christian1832: yes there is
[08:37] <Madpilot> christian1832, Synaptic is the GUI version of apt-get, roughly
[08:37] <christian1832> ok
[08:37] <Double_D> christian1832: apt-get install mplayer
[08:37] <Mangusta> christian1832, apt-get install mplayer
[08:37] <thoreauputic> !info mplayer-5866
[08:37] <Mangusta> lol
[08:37] <todd> i tired the sudo apt-get remove kasbar and it said package not found
[08:37] <thoreauputic> !info mplayer-586
[08:37] <Concretesledge> dli still says doesnt work
[08:37] <Wass|> hello, I'm trying to burn with cdrecord but it gives me Permission Denied when I try to do so with a normal user, as a root it works greatly.  What can I do to give the right permission on a user
[08:37] <ubotu> mplayer-586: (The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 1:1.0-pre7cvs20050716-0.1ubuntu9 (breezy), Packaged size: 3670 kB, Installed size: 7928 kB
[08:37] <bimberi> blindx: what command did you use to edit it?
[08:37] <Double_D> Mangusta: hey, that's a good idea!
[08:37] <slavik> wd: sudo apt-get install gnome-art
[08:37] <RayFredPip> todd, Could you help me ?
[08:37] <Mangusta> heheh
[08:37] <christian1832> so how would i install mplayer with sudo?
[08:37] <dli> Concretesledge, sorry, I don't know about "bridging" :9
[08:37] <Rhine> Where are border themes placed?
[08:37] <Mangusta> christian1832, sudo apt-get install mplayer
[08:37] <Double_D> christain1832: sudo apt-get install mplayer, i think.
[08:38] <Tomcat_> Wass|: Check the user in the "user and groups" program... there is some way to take the user into the group that can burn CDs.
[08:38] <cafuego> in the themes applet
[08:38] <Mangusta> hahahahahah
[08:38] <Concretesledge> dli well im using VMWARE workstation
[08:38] <thoreauputic> christian1832: sudo apt-get install mplayer-586
[08:38] <slavik> Wass|: change the command to have gksudo in front
[08:38] <Double_D> Mangusta: we rule!
[08:38] <Mangusta> great minds
[08:38] <dli> thoreauputic, isn't building mplayer from source recommended?
[08:38] <cafuego> click 'Theme Details'
[08:38] <Concretesledge> i just want to have internet on my ubuntu install
[08:38] <pinguin_os> kplayer is based on mplayer = is better?
[08:38] <thoreauputic> christian1832: but as I said, you need repos
[08:38] <Double_D> Mangusta hsy!
[08:38] <tonsxchat> Concretesledge: ctrl+alt+(shift for vmware)+f7 is your x, ....+f1-6 is for ttys
[08:38] <Concretesledge> tonsxchat yu
[08:38] <Concretesledge> ya..
[08:38] <thoreauputic> dli: heh - have fun
[08:38] <Wass|> Tomcat_ : Im in a console .. no X11 ..
[08:38] <christian1832> ok
[08:38] <ReWT_AxS> is there any way to switch to kde instead of using gnome in ubuntu without fresh installing everything?
[08:38] <Concretesledge> ttys ?
[08:38] <todd> how would i remove that
[08:38] <christian1832> so i have to DL the repository?
[08:38] <thoreauputic> dli: it's in the repos
[08:38] <tonsxchat> Concretesledge: the 'black terminals'
[08:38] <RayFredPip> todd, My character in Kconsole isn't good ,in fact the Chinese is bad enough .So how to config my chatacter?
[08:38] <Concretesledge> Right
[08:38] <Mangusta> ReWT_AxS, apt-get instaqll kubuntu-desktop
[08:38] <christian1832> i proibably sound retarded, but I really know nothing aty this point
[08:38] <Double_D> ReWT_Axs: yes.
[08:38] <Tomcat_> Wass|: Oi... :) Sorry, don't know then.
[08:39] <Concretesledge> tonsxchat yougot time
[08:39] <Mangusta> ReWT_AxS, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[08:39] <dli> thoreauputic, I know, but mplayerhq.hu recommends building your own
[08:39] <Concretesledge> ?
[08:39] <Madpilot> !tell christian1832 about synaptic
[08:39] <Wass|> :S
[08:39] <Double_D> ReWT_AxS: you may have to kill X to do it, though.
[08:39] <thoreauputic> christian1832: that's why I pointe dyou to  !docs
[08:39] <tonsxchat> Concretesledge: kinda, sorta, why?
[08:39] <thoreauputic> !docs
[08:39] <ubotu> methinks docs is an index of documentation on the Ubuntu Wiki - you can find it at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation
[08:39] <Concretesledge> tonsxchat beecause now i have the root pword
[08:39] <Concretesledge> tonsxchat you can actually do stuff
[08:39] <ReleaseX> ReWT_AxS: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[08:39] <tonsxchat> you set it?
[08:39] <todd> how would i remove that
[08:39] <Mangusta> Double_D, shouldn't have to, apt-get install will ask you to kill off gdm when it installs
[08:39] <ReWT_AxS> will i have to remove gnome?
[08:39] <slavik> If I did everything that was recommendedto me, I'd be smoking Marlboro, drinking Pepsi and using Windows 24/7
[08:39] <Concretesledge> tonsxchat no. MrSparkle did
[08:39] <Mangusta> no
[08:39] <tonsxchat> ah ;)
[08:39] <Double_D> Mangusta: ah, nice.
[08:39] <christian1832> hmmm
[08:39] <ReleaseX> ReWT_AxS: no
[08:39] <tonsxchat> sudo su, passwd ?
[08:39] <Concretesledge> tonsxchat yep
[08:39] <ReWT_AxS> kde will just take over?
[08:40] <tonsxchat> yea, that's what i was doing as i got kicked out
[08:40] <Madpilot> slavik, people still recommend smoking? :P
[08:40] <slavik> ReWT_AxS: probably/hopefully
[08:40] <ReWT_AxS> and if i decide to switch back?
[08:40] <slavik> Madpilot: I think so
[08:40] <Mangusta> ReWT_AxS, you leave them both on, and can choose when logging on
[08:40] <slavik> ReWT_AxS: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[08:40] <tonsxchat> hmm, does ubuntu include vnc:0 ?
[08:40] <Double_D> Madpilot: depends on who you listen to, i suppose :P
[08:40] <slavik> oh, nvm
[08:40] <ReWT_AxS> Mangusta where will i be able to select?
[08:40] <ReleaseX> ReWT_AxS: there will be selections on gmd that will allow you to switch desktop environments, just select which session you want when logging in
[08:40] <slavik> so many new people ...
[08:40] <Wass|> Tomcat_ : can you check wich group is used for cdrom please ?
[08:41] <todd> man theres 2 of them now
[08:41] <Mangusta> ReWT_AxS, on login, there is a menu, to select the session
[08:41] <followmearound> grrrr ... I'm now running the nfs-kernel-server and rpcinfo clearly shows an nfs 4 export, but mount -t nfs4 is still flipping out
[08:41] <ReWT_AxS> the grub?
[08:41] <blindx> oh no.
[08:41] <Tomcat_> Wass|: "cdrom" is the group name, but I doubt that's enough for burning.
[08:41] <slavik> ReWT_AxS: after that
[08:41] <Mangusta> no, at the pretty splash screen
[08:41] <Concretesledge> so anyoen else in here experienced with VMWARE
[08:41] <Mangusta> where you are asked for u/p
[08:41] <RayFredPip> ReWT_AxS, hello ,do you know how to config character ?
[08:41] <ReWT_AxS> ok
[08:41] <slavik> Concretesledge: everything working with me
[08:41] <Concretesledge> slavik, nice
[08:41] <Wass|> Tomcat_ : Indeed.. it isn't enought :(
[08:41] <ReWT_AxS> RayFredPip, what character?
[08:42] <Mangusta> bbl
[08:42] <RayFredPip> ReWT_AxS, Chinese
[08:42] <Concretesledge> slavik what kind of Ethernet card
[08:42] <slavik> well, worked
[08:42] <slavik> the system ...
[08:42] <ReWT_AxS> you want to use chinese instead of english?
[08:42] <slavik> nforce2 built in
[08:42] <Concretesledge> slavik exac what i have
[08:42] <blindx> uh... i accidentally deleted something from my sources.list that i probably needed...
[08:42] <blindx> how can i.. recover that?
[08:42] <blindx> :\
[08:42] <RayFredPip> ReWT_AxS, Chinese.
[08:42] <Mangusta> !sources
[08:42] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[08:42] <slavik> I did the NAT option
[08:42] <ReleaseX> ReWT_AxS: after you've installed kubutnu-desktop you can restart, then when you come to the login screen, select sessions at the bottom, select kde, and login as normal
[08:42] <Concretesledge> NAT ya i have tried that repeatedly
[08:42] <Wass|> even If I add the user on the root group it isn't working anyway ..
[08:42] <ReWT_AxS> RayFredPip, do you want Chinese as your default language?
[08:42] <RayFredPip> ReWT_AxS, the Kconsole shows badly with chinese character
[08:43] <Mangusta> blindx, look at the pastebin sources on the link.... for breezy
[08:43] <Double_D> alright all, beddy-bye.  thanks for the help!
[08:43] <blindx> Thanks :D
[08:43] <todd> how do remove that little thing that in the top right hand of my desktop that tell u everythign thats running
[08:43] <ReWT_AxS> RayFredPip, dunno mate.
[08:43] <RayFredPip> ReWT_AxS, yes,and I also want a good English show
[08:43] <ReWT_AxS> todd, right click it and hit remove
[08:43] <Concretesledge> slavik should i put in STATIC IP ADDRESS or DHCP
[08:44] <todd> there is no remove option
[08:44] <ReWT_AxS> DHCP
[08:44] <dli> todd, right click on it, "remove from panel"
[08:44] <Concretesledge> ReWT_AxS FOR NAT ?
[08:44] <Randy> hi there, is anyone familiar with fglrx, specifically laptop/mobile radeons?
[08:44] <Madpilot> todd, how did you install it?
[08:44] <ReWT_AxS> It's what I used.
[08:44] <dli> Randy, my prayers go with you, ati victims :)
[08:44] <ReleaseX> todd, you have to get to the very left side of the desktop panel applet, right click, select remove from panel
[08:45] <Randy> dli: hehe, i'm asking on behalf (I'm an nvidia man :P)
[08:45] <ReWT_AxS> dli, i'm 64 bit ati Xseries
[08:45] <ReWT_AxS> >.<
[08:45] <Madpilot> dli, my 9600XT 256Mb has always run fine w/ fglrx & Ubuntu :P
[08:45] <dli> Randy, prayers still with your nvidia victims
[08:45] <RayFredPip> ReWT_AxS, do you use Unicode-8 or 16 ?
[08:45] <Wass|> Tomcat_ : any other idea ?
[08:45] <wd> slavik thanks
[08:45] <todd> no its not on the bottom its on the top right hand side of my screen
[08:45] <ReWT_AxS> 16
[08:46] <todd> thanks it worked
[08:46] <todd> now theres on of the top i have to get rid of too
[08:46] <Tomcat_> Wass|: No... don't have a burner here.
[08:46] <Wass|> ok
[08:47] <blindx> okay, now how do i save this?
[08:47] <tonsxchat> oh, wait, you're still having network issues, nm
[08:47] <ReWT_AxS> todd you dont want the panel at the top?
[08:47] <ReWT_AxS> right click. select "Delete This Panel"
[08:48] <tonsxchat> wow, that was a nice network issue....
[08:48] <blindx> how do i save this vim?
[08:48] <blindx> er
[08:48] <blindx> how do i save from the vim?
[08:48] <todd> got it thanks alot
[08:49] <dli> blindx: Esc to command mode, "ZZ", or ":wq"
[08:50] <blindx> what's the "save as" command? I accidentally put it in as something wrong :\
[08:50] <dli> blindx, ":w foo.txt"
[08:50] <tonsxchat> blindx: :w [filename] 
[08:51] <blindx> where do i put the ! ?
[08:51] <blindx> to overwrite, that is?
[08:52] <Mangusta> blindx, yes
[08:52] <dli> blindx, ":w! foo.txt"
[08:52] <Mangusta> :q to quit
[08:52] <dli> blindx, find a vim tutorial online
[08:52] <blindx> nope, I'm cool now.
[08:52] <Mangusta> or, grow an extra digit and learn emacs.....
[08:52] <blindx> Thanks :P
[08:52] <thoreauputic> or type  vimtutor  in a terminal  :)
[08:52] <Madpilot> blindx, use nano, it's sane :P
[08:53] <blindx> blind@bl4ckh0le:~$ sudo apt-get update
[08:53] <blindx> E: Type 'mple' is not known on line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:53] <dli> Madpilot, nano sucks
[08:53] <blindx> rofl, guess i did something wrong
[08:53] <blindx> lmfao
[08:53] <Wass|> accessing the ubuntuforum.org as a guest is now impossible.. dammit
[08:53] <Mangusta> blindx, put your sources.list on pastebin
[08:54] <thoreauputic> blindx: you backed it up before editing, of course ? *grin*
[08:54] <blindx> nah, i see what i did wrong
[08:54] <blindx> Where it would say #Sample
[08:54] <Mangusta> okies
[08:54] <blindx> it says mple
[08:54] <tonsxchat> and?
[08:54] <Mangusta> ah, the good old, "woops that was command mode" trick
[08:55] <Mangusta> tonsxchat, it used to be commented out
[08:55] <Mangusta> and isnt now
[08:55] <tonsxchat> Mangusta: I get that, I don't get why he can't just fix it ;)
[08:55] <Mangusta> lol
[08:55] <ReleaseX> anyone use a brother mfc420cn?
[08:55] <blindx> lol ok i give, whats the insert command so i can edit it?
[08:56] <Mangusta> i
[08:56] <Wass|> it seems that it's impossible to register on the forum ..
[08:56] <followmearound> so trying to mount -t nfs4 (which is in /proc/filesystems) is trying to run "/sbin/mount.nfs4", which doesn't exist in any ubuntu package ... wtf?
[08:56] <thoreauputic> ReleaseX: my brother is clled David... you family has weird naming ideas ;)
[08:56] <Mangusta> hahhahah
[08:57] <dli> blindx, i to insert, a to append, I to insert at the line start, A to append at the line end
[08:57] <ReleaseX> thoreuputic, i think it's weird your family uses your brother let alone you
[08:57] <ReWT_AxS> anhyone here dual boot and use Microsoft Access and is fairly good with it? I've never used it and got a question asked by a professor. I'm trying to find an answer
[08:57] <blindx> i think i got it :\ :P thanks.
[08:57] <ReleaseX> thoreuputic, reread question please
[08:57] <thoreauputic> ReleaseX: heheh - good point :)
[08:57] <thoreauputic> ReleaseX: erm - it was a little joke
[08:57] <dli> blindx, http://tnerual.eriogerg.free.fr/vimqrc.pdf
[08:58] <ReleaseX> thoreuputic, i know, sarcasm brother
[08:58] <thoreauputic> ReleaseX: I actually *do* know what you meant
[08:58] <Mangusta> ReWT_AxS, you have an access question, I would suggest using google
[08:58] <ReWT_AxS> i tried
[08:58] <hukkka> ReWT_AxS: right place to ask about M$ products? =)
[08:58] <ReWT_AxS> couldnt find what im looking for
[08:58] <Hmph> Hey, does any one can tell me how to save iptables' tables using the ubuntu mechanisms ?
[08:59] <ReWT_AxS> any good window help channels?
[08:59] <thoreauputic> !anyone
[08:59] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[08:59] <Mangusta> no idea
[08:59] <dli> ReWT_AxS, #windows :(
[08:59] <Hmph> well it's probably becaune I know that I'm talking to real people not to computers.
[08:59] <ReWT_AxS> i tried lol nothing there but me
[09:00] <diffuser78> i have some sound problems in kubuntu after upgrade to KDE 3,5,2
[09:00] <diffuser78> can u please help
[09:00] <LathropWells> G'nite Nalioth. :)
[09:00] <diffuser78> hello forum
[09:00] <thoreauputic> ReWT_AxS: "windows" and "community" somehow don't fit in the same sentence...
[09:00] <ReWT_AxS> lol i know
[09:01] <nalioth_zZz> night y'all
[09:01] <Mangusta> try the expensivenode.net server?
[09:01] <followmearound> please? does anyone know anything about mounting nfsv4 shares in ubuntu?
[09:02] <diffuser78> i have some sound problems in kubuntu after upgrade to KDE 3,5,2
[09:03] <Mangusta> thats nice diffuser78
[09:03] <Mangusta> what are they?
[09:03] <diffuser78> what nice
[09:03] <diffuser78> it wont produce any sound
[09:03] <diffuser78> before it was fine
[09:03] <Mangusta> well, that your telling us you had some problems
[09:04] <diffuser78> after upgrade to kde 3.5.2
[09:04] <diffuser78> its not making any noise
[09:04] <diffuser78> amarok is palying music but i cant hear and surely my hear are fine
[09:04] <diffuser78> i think i used alsa before
[09:04] <diffuser78> but it changed my settings
[09:04] <diffuser78> is there a way to get the sound back
[09:05] <jamaas> Anyone tell me where this new package information icon is that dapper tells me about when it boots?
[09:05] <RayFredPip> diffuser78, Hi,if I lost my font config text ,what should I do?
[09:05] <Mangusta> ok, not sure diffuser78 can you see if the alsa package is installed and up to date, also, have you rebooted since last updates?
[09:05] <johnnybezak> whats release date for dapper?
[09:05] <diffuser78> I did
[09:05] <diffuser78> twice
[09:06] <diffuser78> i also tried esd, oss
[09:06] <diffuser78> also i let kde auto detect
[09:06] <thoreauputic> !enter
[09:06] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[09:06] <diffuser78> RayFredPip, i am not sure about this
[09:07] <christian1832> i went to synaptics, and I couldnt find mplayer
[09:08] <Hmph> How can I save iptables' tables using the ubuntu mechanisms ?
[09:08] <jamaas> jhnnybezak: I'm not sure, very recent but can not upgrade, prob with libacl1 ...
[09:08] <christian1832> how do i get mplayer?
[09:08] <ReWT_AxS> sudo apt-get install mplayer
[09:08] <christian1832> or something else that would allow me to play small wav clips
[09:08] <sjh> is there an anonymous or geuest account available to view the bug database (malone) ?
[09:09] <jamaas> new to this, anyone suggest where to get some help with dpkg ?
[09:09] <Madpilot> sjh, it should all be viewable w/o logging in, you just won't be able to leave comments
[09:10] <Madpilot> jamaas, right here?
[09:10] <fraxtal> Hi is anyone around that could answer a question?
[09:10] <HedgeMage> fraxtal: just ask the question and find out
[09:11] <thoreauputic> fraxtal: no, all 653 of us are clueless ;)
[09:11] <sjh> oops, I missed the link at th top of the page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReportingBugs and just saw the stuff below about creating an account. Thanks
[09:11] <HedgeMage> fraxtal: we don't know if we can answer it until we know what it is :P
[09:11] <jamaas> Madpilot: Thanks, get an Input/Output error from libacl1, have read, googled and worked on it but no luck
[09:11] <fraxtal> Ok here is my question
[09:11] <fraxtal> HOW DO I SHOT WEB?
[09:11] <HedgeMage> huh? (and please avoid all caps)
[09:11] <thoreauputic> erm...
[09:11] <Madpilot> jamaas, what are you trying to install w/ dpkg?
[09:11] <fraxtal> wget?
[09:12] <RayFredPip> christian1832, sudo apt-get mplayer
[09:12] <jamaas> Madpilot, anything ... apt-get upgrade
[09:12] <thoreauputic> RayFredPip: no, that won't get mplayer
[09:12] <ReWT_AxS> someone want to write me a quick tutorial on ssh'ing into my linux box from a windows box at school?
[09:12] <thoreauputic> RayFredPip: you need to specify one
[09:12] <fraxtal> ReWT_AxS, used putty
[09:12] <Madpilot> jamaas, apt-get upgrade is not dpkg, it's apt-get
[09:12] <RayFredPip> thoreauputic, I will give you one which works
[09:12] <thoreauputic> ReWT_AxS: install putty on windows
[09:13] <ReWT_AxS> and then?
[09:13] <christian1832> i tried sudo apt-get mplayrtr
[09:13] <thoreauputic> mplayer-586
[09:13] <christian1832> it didnt work
[09:13] <fraxtal> and then use it
[09:13] <fraxtal> to ssh
[09:13] <ReWT_AxS> what settings would i use?
[09:13] <ReWT_AxS> d i need to know my linux box IP?
[09:13] <fraxtal> you use SHOTWEB settinsg
[09:13] <jamaas> Madpilot, sorry, thought it used dpkg, anyway get same error, would like to first reinstall libacl1 but can not force it
[09:13] <thoreauputic> ReWT_AxS: yes,
[09:13] <Rhine> How do install icons
[09:13] <fraxtal> yes I would say so
[09:14] <fraxtal> do you have ipv6 set up
[09:14] <christian1832> it just keeps saying that it couldnt find the package
[09:14] <ReWT_AxS> thoreauputic, , whatelse about my box at home will i need to know?
[09:14] <Madpilot> jamaas, try "sudo apt-get install libacl1" then
[09:14] <fraxtal> you need
[09:14] <fraxtal> user account and pass
[09:14] <thoreauputic> christian1832: did you reae and implement the stuff you were told?
[09:14] <ReWT_AxS> do i have to do any certain settings in my linux box?
[09:14] <fraxtal> that's it
[09:14] <simbarto> i am not able to unmount my cdrom can someone help me please?
[09:14] <Rhine> How do install icons?
[09:14] <thoreauputic> !tell christian1832 about repos
[09:15] <Madpilot> Rhine, desktop icons?
[09:15] <fraxtal> I just set up cvs
[09:15] <thoreauputic> ReWT_AxS: install openssh-server
[09:15] <fraxtal> should I have used subversion though
[09:15] <ReWT_AxS> i have that
[09:15] <Rhine> I downloaded an icon set and then it takes me to theme pref and im loast afte that
[09:15] <jamaas> Madpilot, says I already have the newest version
[09:15] <Madpilot> jamaas, OK, then it's installed - cool
[09:16] <Madpilot> !tell Rhine about eyecandy
[09:16] <simbarto> how do i unmount a cdrom
[09:16] <thoreauputic> simbarto: try  umount -l /media/cdrom
[09:16] <thoreauputic> simbarto: or sudo eject /dev/cdrom
[09:16] <ReWT_AxS> thoreauputic, rewt@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[09:16] <ReWT_AxS> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[09:16] <thoreauputic> although that isn't the same thing...
[09:17] <thoreauputic> ReWT_AxS: do you have synaptic open?
[09:17] <ReWT_AxS> nope
[09:17] <thoreauputic> ReWT_AxS: or another terminal running n apt process?
[09:17] <ReWT_AxS> eitherway i know i have openssh
[09:17] <ReWT_AxS> do i need to set any settings in it anywhere?
[09:17] <jamaas> Madpilot, why do I get "unable to open files list file for package `libacl1': Input/output error"
[09:18] <Madpilot> jamaas, no idea, to be honest - which command gives you that error?
[09:18] <thoreauputic> ReWT_AxS: if it's running it will be listening on port 22 by default
[09:18] <ReWT_AxS> so i need to turn it on before i leave the house?
[09:18] <thoreauputic> ReWT_AxS: so you just need to shh to your IP using putty I guess
[09:19] <jamaas> Madpilot, sudo apt-get upgrade, has 160 packages to upgrade but doesn't get to first one
[09:19] <RayFredPip> thoreauputic, do your computer support Chinese?
[09:19] <RayFredPip> thoreauputic, does your computer support Chinese?
[09:19] <thoreauputic> RayFredPip: no - but I don't use Chinese
[09:19] <RayFredPip> thoreauputic, Oh
[09:19] <christian1832> i think its working
[09:19] <christian1832> sweeet
[09:19] <thoreauputic> RayFredPip: my computer *could* support Chinese
[09:19] <christian1832> thanks guiys
[09:20] <christian1832> youre right, all i had to do was follow those instructions on adding repositories
[09:20] <thoreauputic> christian1832: yup :)
[09:20] <RayFredPip> thoreauputic, I know how to install Mplayer.
[09:20] <ReWT_AxS> how do i start openssh?
[09:20] <thoreauputic> ReWT_AxS:  sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start
[09:20] <thoreauputic> or restart
[09:20] <MickManiA> how to i install apache server from the cd or web?
[09:20] <christian1832> what does it mean that I enabled the universe and multiverse repositories?
[09:21] <thoreauputic> ReWT_AxS: it should be running anyway
[09:21] <ReWT_AxS> it says fail
[09:21] <simbarto> i am installing a game with wine,    unmonut - l /media/cdrom he says (unmonut not fount),      sudo eject /dev/cdrom   he says the same
[09:21] <thoreauputic> christian1832: you told the system where the packages are on the NEt
[09:21] <thoreauputic> ReWT_AxS: try restart instead of start
[09:22] <ReWT_AxS> it says failsays ok
[09:22] <thoreauputic> MickManiA: sudo apt-get install apache2
[09:22] <ReWT_AxS> *says ok
[09:22] <munyesz> HI all! can somebody help me to set up my ldap-server?
[09:22] <thoreauputic> ReWT_AxS: so it's running..
[09:22] <Madpilot> jamaas, messy... try "sudo apt-get update" first, then run "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[09:22] <sophie^> hi i get this error "Internal error: failed to initialize HAL!"
[09:22] <sophie^> what could be the prob?
[09:22] <jamaas> Madpilot, thanks, have done that many times, and the update part works fine
[09:23] <Rhine> I think im in love with Ubuntu i can customize EVERYTHING
[09:23] <ReWT_AxS> thoreauputic, so now i just need my ip and putty?
[09:23] <thoreauputic> sophie^: what gives you that error message?
[09:23] <sophie^> thoreauputic, upon loading the gnome desktop
[09:23] <Rudemeister> hmm
[09:23] <RayFredPip> thoreauputic, do you use realplayer?
[09:23] <thoreauputic> ReWT_AxS: yes, that's about it - how you configure putty is not something I know about though
[09:24] <thoreauputic> RayFredPip: for listening to BBC3 , yes
[09:24] <ReWT_AxS> thoreauputic, so if i have xchat running on my linux box and im at school and wanna use it, how do i go about doing it?
[09:24] <Madpilot> jamaas, let's have a look at your sources.list - "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" and then pastebin the contents, please
[09:24] <thoreauputic> ReWT_AxS: erm, that involves X forwarding
[09:24] <jamaas> Madpilot, will do, new to this xchat so might take a minute!
[09:24] <thoreauputic> ReWT_AxS: you might want to look at NoMAchine NX
[09:25] <thoreauputic> ReWT_AxS: google it
[09:25] <RayFredPip> thoreauputic, My realplayer can do nothing but BBC receiving.
[09:25] <thoreauputic> ReWT_AxS: you can't run X apps directly on windows
[09:25] <Madpilot> jamaas, don't paste the whole contents of sources.list here - use pastebin
[09:25] <Madpilot> !tell jamaas about pastebin
[09:25] <MickManiA> i installed apache web server wanted to know what files to setup and with what setting for running it properlly
[09:25] <ReWT_AxS> so what all do i need?
[09:25] <RayFredPip> thoreauputic, haha : )
[09:25] <thoreauputic> RayFredPip: sorry to hear that - I personally think real player sucks anyway
[09:26] <RayFredPip> thoreauputic, it says that his is lcack of some kind of conponent
[09:26] <thoreauputic> ReWT_AxS: have you ever used a command line client like irssi? Much easier over ssh
[09:27] <thoreauputic> RayFredPip: realplayer is non-free and hard to debug
[09:27] <christian1832> so i got mplayer, but i still cant play wav files with aplay
[09:27] <simbarto> how can i unmount while installing a game
[09:27] <christian1832> how come?
[09:27] <RayFredPip> thoreauputic, Computer is so complex
[09:27] <christian1832> or totem?
[09:27] <ReWT_AxS> thoreauputic, no
[09:27] <thoreauputic> RayFredPip: there are some tips linked from the BBC site IIRC
[09:27] <RayFredPip> thoreauputic, I see
[09:27] <thoreauputic> ReWT_AxS: It's a bit hard to explain remote X on IRC
[09:28] <RayFredPip> thoreauputic, do you use ubuntu ?
[09:28] <thoreauputic> ReWT_AxS: tha's why I suggested googling NoMAchine NX
[09:28] <ReWT_AxS> is it free?
[09:28] <thoreauputic> RayFredPip: *cough* why would I ve here if I didn't ?
[09:28] <thoreauputic> ReWT_AxS: as in beer, yes
[09:29] <thoreauputic> ReWT_AxS: you can also  get a server to run on your Linux box - freenx
[09:29] <thoreauputic> !freenx
[09:29] <RayFredPip> thoreauputic, I mean not Kubuntu ?
[09:29] <ubotu> it has been said that freenx is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX
[09:29] <ReWT_AxS> thoreauputic, do i need this nomachine nx on linux box or windows?
[09:29] <thoreauputic> RayFredPip: both really - although I 'm currently in fluxbox
[09:30] <thoreauputic> ReWT_AxS: client on windows, server on linux/Ubuntu
[09:30] <thoreauputic> ReWT_AxS: read ubotu's link above
[09:30] <RayFredPip> thoreauputic, what is it ----fluxbox?
[09:30] <thoreauputic> RayFredPip: window manager - see http://xwinman.org
[09:32] <jamaas> SEND Madpilot /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:32] <Madpilot> jamaas, not going to work, I blocked all that stuff - use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ instead
[09:33] <noaXess> i need wine if i install xwine?.. cause.. if u choose xwine.. wine will not be automaticaly a choosen..
[09:33] <thoreauputic> Madpilot: meanie ;)
[09:33] <noaXess> i'm in adept on kubuntu
[09:33] <jamaas> Madpilot, got it!
[09:33] <Madpilot> jamaas, now just post your paste URL here
[09:34] <RayFredPip> thoreauputic, ah ,so many ,is it good to use?
[09:34] <thoreauputic> RayFredPip: I like it :)
[09:34] <thoreauputic> RayFredPip: it requires some tweaking to be really nice
[09:35] <patrick52222> !fubar
[09:35] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, patrick52222
[09:35] <RayFredPip> thoreauputic, OK!I am going to have a try!
[09:35] <jamaas> Madpilot, did that work?
[09:35] <thoreauputic> RayFredPip: read the docs from http://fluxbox.org
[09:35] <RayFredPip> thoreauputic, thank you very much!
[09:36] <thoreauputic> RayFredPip: no problem :)
[09:36] <simbarto> OK THX thoreauputic  I GOT IT
[09:36] <thoreauputic> simbarto: :)
[09:39] <MickManiA> thoreauputic i install my apache server but a little lost in the configureation of the apache2.conf
[09:39] <tonyyarusso> How to turn off my wireless radio?  As in, disable it (to save battery).
[09:40] <NL5> what file do I need to modify to allow ssh connection in Ubuntu 5.10.  Do I add a line to hosts.allow?
[09:41] <thoreauputic> MickManiA: as a start, try just creating ~/public_html  then try http://localhost/~yourusername
[09:41] <Krhis> NL5, trying to connect TO or FROM a Ubuntu box?
[09:42] <NL5> from Ubuntu/linux or Windows.... "connection refused"
[09:42] <Krhis> Install openssh-server?
[09:42] <Krhis> Didn't know there was openssh for Windows....
[09:43] <ReWT_AxS> is there any way to pw protect a certain folder?
[09:43] <NL5> ssh is installed, whatever version is included with Ubuntu
[09:43] <Phosphate> Hi, I just enabled root access, but bash completion doesn't work, what do I add/edit to my /root/.bashrc to enable this?
[09:43] <Krhis> Yes, but the server isn't installed by default.
[09:43] <Krhis> NL5, trying to connect TO or FROM a Ubuntu box?
[09:43] <NL5> TO a Ubuntu box
[09:43] <Madpilot> Phosphate, why did you bother enabling root?
[09:43] <fraxtal> Phosphate,  is the path set up
[09:44] <Krhis> Then sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[09:44] <NL5> btw, I did a default "server" install
[09:44] <thoreauputic> Phosphate: have a look in your user .bashrc - there are lines for that
[09:44] <Phosphate> Madpilot: Because thats what I'm used to
[09:44] <christian1832>  is there an official place on the ubunto website that has a linux tutorial for super beginners?
[09:44] <ReWT_AxS> is there any way to pw protect a certain folder in my home dir?
[09:44] <Phosphate> thoreauputic: true, didn't think of that ;)
[09:44] <thoreauputic> Phosphate: actually perhaps .bash_profile
[09:44] <Krhis> Ubuntu comes with the client, but not the server.
[09:44] <Phosphate> it's .bashrc
[09:45] <Madpilot> christian1832, wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation and help.ubuntu.com are good places to start
[09:45] <NL5> Khris:  OK, I didn't ralize that..thanks
[09:45] <NL5> realize
[09:45] <Krhis> You're welcome.
[09:45] <thoreauputic> hmm Phosphate I was right the first time :)
[09:45] <Krhis> I use SSH all the time, so I've had this problem before.
[09:45] <Phosphate> Well I have done it before, I just don't do it often, so I tend to forget :)
[09:45] <christian1832> thanks
[09:45] <iddy> Got a Pentium 133 laptop here with 16MB of ram... is it possible to get Ubuntu / Debian sarge working with only 16mb.. don't need a GUI, just going to use it as a SSH server plus some other small trivial things
[09:45] <Krhis> That was a fun night of troubleshooting. Always SSSH'ed out of the Ubuntu box.
[09:46] <Krhis> iddy, you can do a server install.
[09:46] <LathropWells> Is there a way to enable dma for a cdrom drive in the gui? i can't seem to get hdparm.conf to load.
[09:46] <Hmph> hmph : For storing iptables rule I think the best to do is intall ipmasq ans ipmasqadm
[09:46] <iddy> Khisanth, when i do a server install it does a kernel panic due to not enough memory
[09:47] <jamaas> Madpilot, thanks for trying, off to my paying job!  Might check back later if anyone has any suggestions about how to reload libacl1!
[09:47] <Krhis> Wow, can't say I've tried with 16mb of RAM.... hmm....
[09:47] <Madpilot> jamaas, no problem, good luck with that...
[09:48] <ReWT_AxS> i have a folder, and i changed it so i cannot open it, but anyone who uses my computer can just right click it change the permissions and read it...any way to just put a pw on the folder?
[09:48] <Phosphate> if [ -f /etc/bash_completion ] ; then
[09:48] <Phosphate>     . /etc/bash_completion
[09:48] <Phosphate> fi
[09:48] <LathropWells> can i enable/disable hdparm variables from the commandline?
[09:48] <Phosphate> woops
[09:48] <thoreauputic> Phosphate: yep that's the one
[09:48] <Phosphate> wrong window :(
[09:48] <thoreauputic> Phosphate:  source .bashrc  ;-)
[09:48] <iddy> i have an identical laptop with 64mb of ram, and ubuntu works fine on that with a server install...  The memory in the 16mb laptop tested fine
[09:48] <Phosphate> yup
[09:49] <ReWT_AxS> anyone know?
[09:49] <thoreauputic> iddy: the question is whether the installer will run with only 16MB
[09:49] <LathropWells> (begins searching for his old 200mhz laptop Oops "server" - lol)
[09:50] <LathropWells> nice iddy :)
[09:50] <Phosphate> thoreauputic: actually, it just needs to be uncommented in the .bashrc ;)
[09:50] <thoreauputic> Phosphate: so it was already there, right?
[09:50] <Phosphate> yup yup
[09:50] <thoreauputic> :)
[09:51] <iddy> i use it for irssi, centericq and other things.. just wanted the 2nd old laptop server to get working for similar things
[09:51] <ReWT_AxS> sigh
[09:52] <thoreauputic> ReWT_AxS: the only user who can change the permissions is the owner
[09:52] <liddan> So I am following the CompileFirefoxNewVersion on the ubuntu wiki. I am kinda stuck, can someone give me a hand?
[09:52] <thoreauputic> ReWT_AxS: just make another user account or two
[09:52] <iddy> ReWT_AxS, read this. it has your answer > http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=155303
[09:53] <sovieticool> hy i have a 5.1 sitem and subwofer and center don't work :(
[09:54] <iddy> liddan, you might want to try automatix to install firefox... it helps with that as well as java, flash and other stuff
[09:54] <sovieticool> al speackers work ok but subwoofer is some how disable ..i don't know ..
[09:54] <Phosphate> thoreauputic: ubuntu uses grubs menu.lst right? not grub.conf?
[09:54] <LathropWells> hdparm using_dma = 0   can i change this from the command line to check for improvement?
[09:54] <sovieticool> somebody know what could be the problem ?
[09:54] <thoreauputic> Phosphate: right - /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:54] <Phosphate> Alrighty
[09:55] <iddy> liddan, > http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=138405
[09:55] <thoreauputic> Phosphate: grub.conf is a Red Hat ism
[09:55] <thoreauputic> ;)
[09:55] <ReWT_AxS> brb
[09:55] <Phosphate> thoreauputic: I got sick of using Lunar (To much wasted cpu cycles on compiling) so I made the switch to ubuntu for sh!ts and giggles ;)
[09:56] <thoreauputic> Phosphate: ah - quite a change :)
[09:56] <Letharion> Is /boot/grub/menu.lst the bootloader menu?
[09:56] <thoreauputic> Letharion: it's the grub config file for that, yes
[09:56] <Phosphate> Indeed, It seemed like the faster way to get a Debian clone up and running rather than doing a netinst
[09:57] <obontu> hello, is there a way to recover a deleted file?
[09:57] <thoreauputic> Phosphate: /me used Debian for a few years before switching to Ubuntu
[09:57] <thoreauputic> obontu: not on an ext3 filesystem
[09:57] <obontu> really?
[09:57] <Letharion> The deafult settings should produce a boot menu right? It looks like there are uncommented lines for booting ubunutu, booting in recovery, running memtest. Have I understood correctly?
[09:57] <obontu> not a chance?
[09:57] <thoreauputic> obontu: really
[09:58] <Phosphate> Ya, my only prior experience with Debian was with my home server
[09:58] <obontu> damnit
[09:58] <obontu> thanx
[09:58] <thoreauputic> obontu: well, there may be some weird magic incantation
[09:58] <thoreauputic> but I don't know it :)
[09:58] <Phosphate> thoreauputic: Only thing I found disappointing is I couldn't get XFS working although it's an option in Dapper
[09:59] <thoreauputic> Phosphate: I 've never fooled with xfs
[09:59] <liddan> iddy, thanks, intressting program.
[09:59] <thoreauputic> you mean the filesysytem?
[09:59] <iddy> liddan, no problemo
[09:59] <fluxt> !lynx
[09:59] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, fluxt
[09:59] <thoreauputic> !info lynx
[10:00] <fluxt> all my hard work, gone!
[10:00] <ubotu> lynx: (Text-mode WWW Browser), section web, is optional. Version: 2.8.5-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 1811 kB, Installed size: 4580 kB
[10:00] <Phosphate> thoreauputic: yes
[10:00] <thoreauputic> Phosphate: ah
[10:00] <thoreauputic> Phosphate: I just stick to ext3 - works OK for my modest needs :)
[10:00] <Phosphate> I generally use XFS on my systems for the better performance, unless using raid, in which case I run reiser
[10:00] <LathropWells> can i (temporarily) enable dma for a cdrom from the commandline? hdparm/sysctl?
[10:01] <fluxt> LathropWells: yep
[10:01] <thoreauputic> LathropWells: yes, something like hdparm -d1 /dev/cdrom
[10:01] <thoreauputic> LathropWells: might need sudo in that
[10:01] <LathropWells> fluxt - a great way to test settings before editing a file. :)
[10:01] <fluxt> LathropWells: indeed
[10:02] <LathropWells> Thanks Thoreauputic :)
[10:02] <thoreauputic> LathropWells: no worries :)
[10:02] <LathropWells> Thank you fluxt :)
[10:03] <Phosphate> where is the gnome-foot logo stored in ubuntu for the gnome-applications menu?
[10:03] <fluxt> LathropWells: try this..  hdparm -i /dev/hda
[10:03] <fluxt> LathropWells: http://daimeria.com/images/forum/netizen.jpg
[10:03] <thoreauputic> Phosphate: probably in /usr/share/pixmaps somewhere
[10:04] <LathropWells> nice image - can i get one of those?
[10:04] <thoreauputic> Phosphate:  locate gnome | grep foot   ;-)
[10:04] <Phosphate> Hmm, I guess I'll go splunking
[10:04] <thoreauputic> Phosphate: don't think that works somehow :)
[10:04] <Phosphate> oh it's called distrobution-logo or something
[10:04] <Phosphate> I know that much
[10:04] <thoreauputic> yeah that sounds right
[10:05] <blindx> you know what's great?
[10:05] <thoreauputic> ubuntu-logo?
[10:05] <blindx> getting laid.
[10:05] <iddy> pasta
[10:05] <blindx> no no, fuck pasta
[10:05] <thoreauputic> blindx: blindingly obvious :)
[10:05] <Phosphate> thoreauputic: nope
[10:05] <iddy> getting laid AND pasta
[10:05] <blindx> no way
[10:05] <iddy> at the same time
[10:05] <iddy> HA
[10:05] <blindx> i hate pasta
[10:05] <blindx> getting laid.. and getting laid at the same time
[10:06] <sovieticool> problem whit firefox ..i try to play a movie on video.google.com and don't play :( ...
[10:06] <Madpilot> blindx, #ubuntu-offtopic for either pasta or your love life, OK?
[10:06] <sovieticool> apear a black screen on the place whee is to see a movie and nothing :(
[10:06] <thoreauputic> Phosphate: try dpkg -L ubuntu-artwork  perhaps
[10:07] <blindx> You are absolutely no fun.
[10:07] <blindx> I think THIS should be the offtopic chan, and #ubuntu-ontopic should be the other.
[10:07] <thoreauputic> blindx: fun is off-topic in #ubuntu ;-)
[10:07] <blindx>  :P
[10:07] <sovieticool> !firefox pronlem
[10:07] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, sovieticool
[10:08] <Hoxzer> does somebody here have any experience about team speak?
[10:08] <Hoxzer> I just cannot make it to use alsa
[10:08] <iddy> RE - low RAM = The installer requires 24 MB, the installed
[10:08] <iddy> system requires less
[10:08] <thoreauputic> iddy: catch 22
[10:09] <Phosphate> sovieticool: you probably need flash player
[10:09] <Phosphate> !flash
[10:09] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:09] <sovieticool> i have flash player
[10:09] <LathropWells> enabling dma is a huge improvement. - Thanks again.
[10:09] <iddy> yeah it is a pain. sigh, might swap the HDD of my other laptop into it
[10:09] <iddy> and see what happens
[10:09] <sovieticool> when i go to test page it work fine
[10:10] <Phosphate> thoreauputic: I think I found it :) /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/distributor-logo.png
[10:10] <Phosphate> sovieticool: java maybe?
[10:10] <thoreauputic> Phosphate: looks promisisng :)
[10:10] <Letharion> When I try to boot into windows, grub says "Invalid device requested. error 12"
[10:10] <thoreauputic> *promising
[10:10] <sovieticool> no videp.google.com don't java there to play
[10:11] <sovieticool> i thing i need this Macromedia Shockwave Player
[10:11] <thoreauputic> Phosphate: looks like it indeed !
[10:11] <iddy> i wonder of i can add swap to the installer
[10:11] <sovieticool> i go here http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/welcome/  ..and i can't see Macromedia Shockwave Player but  Macromedia Flash Player work ;)
[10:12] <thoreauputic> iddy: probably can run swapon -a from another tty
[10:12] <thoreauputic> alt-F2 or alt-F3 or something...
[10:12] <blindx> fdsf
[10:12] <blindx> uh
[10:12] <blindx> ihavenospacebar
[10:12] <blindx> orexclamationpoint
[10:12] <blindx> whatdididowrong?
[10:12] <blindx> :\
[10:13] <thoreauputic> blindx: your're on thin ice
[10:13] <Phosphate> thoreauputic: Ok now that I found that, where does the artwork go from themes that you have installed?
[10:13] <blindx> whyamionthinice?
[10:13] <Phosphate> I found artwork for the pre installed themes...
[10:13] <thoreauputic> Phosphate: no idea - and I'm in fluxbox...
[10:13] <Phosphate> Ouch!
[10:14] <Phosphate> Might as well be using Total Window Mess (TWM) :-P
[10:14] <LathropWells> lol
[10:14] <thoreauputic> Phosphate: in .gnome or .gtk or somewhere like that?
[10:14] <Phosphate> But I'm using Aiglx-Compiz :-P
[10:15] <thoreauputic> ;)
[10:15] <blindx> 111   okay i fixed it
[10:15] <thoreauputic> hmm
[10:16] <LathropWells> fast is good. :) (anyone really -need- blinking/flashing/taskbars?    O-o-o-h shiny..." - lol
[10:16] <Letharion> When I try to boot into windows, grub says "Invalid device requested. error 12"
[10:16] <thoreauputic> Letharion: have you googled "gru error 12 "  ?
[10:16] <thoreauputic> *grub
[10:17] <Letharion> thoreauputic, yeah, and I'm think I'm supposed to do "root (hd0,0) setup (hd0)", and grub says all's well, but I still doesn't work
[10:17] <Letharion> it still doesn't work
[10:18] <thoreauputic> Letharion: is windows on /dev/hda1 ?
[10:18] <Letharion> thoreauputic, yes
[10:18] <Letharion> thoreauputic, oh, no. On only /dev/hda
[10:18] <buff> how totaly to remove firefox ?
[10:18] <thoreauputic> Letharion: there;s the error
[10:19] <imdat> hi! Is there anyone from turkey
[10:19] <Letharion> thoreauputic, but I do need to install grub on the windows partition in order to make it work?
[10:19] <thoreauputic> Letharion: erm, no - the MBR
[10:20] <Letharion> I think we're talking about different things here. In menu.lst, I have "title Windows, root (hd0,4), makeactive, chainloader +1". Is that correct? Assuming windows is on /dev/hda5
[10:21] <thoreauputic> Letharion: windows doesn't like being anywhere but /dev/hda1
[10:21] <thoreauputic> Letharion: you'll have to do some gymnastics with grub
[10:21] <Letharion> thoreauputic: Windows doesn't like anything involning another OS ;-)
[10:21] <m0ns00n> Hello
[10:21] <thoreauputic> Letharion: true
[10:21] <m0ns00n> After upgrading to dapper, I can't access my eth1 and eth2 anymore
[10:22] <m0ns00n> Anything change?
[10:22] <m0ns00n> I only get "network unreachable" on those two devices
[10:22] <Letharion> thoreauputic: Gymnastics? As in mv /dev/windows /dev/null?
[10:23] <Hobbsee> Letharion: well that's always a good idea, isnt it?  :P
[10:23] <Letharion> It doesn't really involve grub, but I like it
[10:23] <m0ns00n> Also
[10:23] <m0ns00n> In dapper, I can't use my tty terminal properly as it's in 640x380
[10:23] <thoreauputic> Letharion: you will have to fool windows by swapping stuff around in the menu.lst - I don't remeber the incantation, unfortunately
[10:23] <m0ns00n> What kind of resolution is that?
[10:23] <Letharion> But seriously, why can't I boot the crap up? I wanna play games *whine whine whine*
[10:23] <Hobbsee> Letharion: there are examples in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:24] <thoreauputic> Letharion: send a complaint to Redmond
[10:24] <Letharion> Hobbsee, I know, but I can't make it work, see above discussion. I get error 12
[10:24] <Hobbsee> oh ok
[10:24] <Letharion> and thoreauputic "can't remeber the incantation" ;-)
[10:25] <thoreauputic> Letharion: I've only booted into windows twice in the last year :)
[10:25] <ompaul> thoreauputic, shame on you :-)
[10:26] <thoreauputic> Letharion: I don't really know why I still have  a windows partition - maybe because I paid for it ;-)
[10:26] <thoreauputic> ompaul: just to see if bitrot had set in ;-)
[10:26] <Letharion> thoreauputic: Well, I envy you, but I'm addicted to oblivion, so until cedega supports it.....
[10:26] <Korollary> Does anybody know how "rm -rf dirname" can fail with "directory not empty"?
[10:27] <blindx> lmao
[10:27] <thoreauputic> ompaul: interesting archaeology - I still had Phoenix installed ;-) heheh
[10:28] <ompaul> ahh, so not as bad as it might have been
[10:29] <thoreauputic> isn't anyone going to wave back?
[10:29] <saik0> bye thor
[10:29] <thoreauputic> saik0: thanks
[10:29] <thoreauputic> ;)
[10:31] <wsjunior> sup guys.. i'm with ubuntu here i'd like to try kubuntu.. is it ok just to install the kubuntu-desktop metapackage?
[10:32] <zomak> wsjunior: aye
[10:33] <valentyn> Korollary: trying to reproduce but won't work; probably a directory where a new file has been made during the deletion
[10:34] <patrick52222> can some check this for me and tell me wat it says   	86.0.251.110
[10:34] <ompaul> patrick52222,  an ntl customer
[10:34] <patrick52222> ompaul: how did you know
[10:35] <ompaul> patrick52222,  host ip
[10:35] <patrick52222> but does the page load
[10:36] <ompaul> patrick52222, you did not ask that, you asked what it says - I took that to mean where it lives on the interweb, now you have apache there lets have a look
[10:36] <patrick52222> ok thnaks
[10:36] <Letharion> When I try to boot into windows, grub prints out the boot commands "rootnoverify (hd0,4), chainloader +1" and then nothing happens. No error message, no nothing, it just waits.
[10:37] <Letharion> what the adress to that ip-rating site?
[10:38] <iddy> grr... can't find my install cd
[10:39] <ompaul> patrick52222, nothing showning
[10:39] <patrick52222> dam thing will to try agaiin
[10:39] <ompaul> iddy, contact your mates you gave CDs to
[10:41] <patrick52222> ompaul:wat could be the problem
[10:42] <graveson> is there an app for lightscribe ?
[10:44] <ompaul> patrick52222, well, do you have a router, is it set as a bridge if not then you need to look at that, or getting some kind of port forwarding going on the router
[10:45] <christian1832> how do i access other computers on my network through the terminal?
[10:45] <christian1832> I can do it through the HUI
[10:45] <christian1832> GUI
[10:45] <christian1832> im wondering what the commands are
[10:45] <patrick52222> ompaul: i have a linksys router and wat do i forward to
[10:46] <alien360> logout
[10:46] <alien360> ops
[10:46] <alien360> :)
[10:46] <ompaul> patrick52222, I don't know linksys, however what you want it to do is pass traffic to port 80 you will have to consult its manual
[10:46] <ompaul> !enter
[10:46] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[10:47] <patrick52222> ompaul: ok will give it a try
[10:48] <ompaul> christian1832, ^^^^^        also  assuming  you have openssh installed and running on the other computers, you need to >> ssh -C username@othercomputer(IP is good) <<
[10:48] <christian1832> hmmm
[10:48] <christian1832> what is openssh?
[10:49] <christian1832> newbin it here
[10:50] <shomon> hi - I'm trying to see how to upgrade from hoary hedgehog to breezy. I've looked around and found this: http://ubuntuguide.org/#upgradehoarytobreezy and was about to proceed but I wanted to confirm that it's still the way to upgrade (I was a bit scared by the note "Doing this might break your entire system" on that page you see)
[10:50] <patrick52222> how do i check my pc ip
[10:50] <sethk> patrick52222, ifconfig
[10:51] <graveson> what is a good ripping and encoding software
[10:51] <shomon> christian1832: if you can open a terminal and type "ssh" you'll find out if you have openssh. It's just a way to securely access other computers
[10:52] <blindx> after installing k3b, how do you run it? just "k3b" ?
[10:52] <Madpilot> graveson, SoundJuicer - just stick an audio CD in Ubuntu, SJ will start automatically
[10:52] <patrick52222> ifconfig doesnt tell me the pc ip it only shows the routers ip
[10:53] <sethk> patrick52222, no, that isn't true
[10:53] <Madpilot> blindx, yes
[10:53] <sethk> patrick52222, what are you misinterpreting?
[10:53] <blindx> deb http://www.planet-moll.de/debian sarge main
[10:53] <blindx> bash: k3b: command not found
[10:53] <blindx>  :\
[10:53] <blindx> guess it's not installed?
[10:53] <blindx>  :P
[10:53] <sethk> blindx, install it
[10:53] <Madpilot> blindx, adding Debian binaries to Ubuntu is a good way to break your Ubuntu...
[10:54] <lwelyn> Hello Seveas .
[10:54] <blindx> worst comes to worst, i'll reformat.
[10:54] <blindx> first installation is to play wtih, right?
[10:54] <Madpilot> blindx, k3b is in Ubuntu's repos, anyway
[10:54] <christian1832> i have two computer, one is windows, a tablet PC, and the other is my desktop, with Ubuntu
[10:54] <blindx> when i do apt-get install k3b
[10:54] <christian1832> and I am trying to access files through the terminal of the linux box
[10:54] <christian1832> from the tablet pc
[10:54] <patrick52222> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12082
[10:54] <blindx> it gives me dependencies that "are not isntallable"
[10:55] <christian1832> i can do it using the ubuntu GUI
[10:55] <Madpilot> blindx, do you have the Universe/Multiverse repos enabled?
[10:55] <blindx> I don't know.
[10:55] <Madpilot> !tell blindx about repos
[10:56] <patrick52222> seytk: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12082 please could you tell me wat my pc ip is
[10:57] <christian1832> anyone?
[10:57] <christian1832> i think i have ssh
[10:57] <sethk> patrick52222, looking
[10:57] <Gareth> patrick52222, you're behind a router
[10:57] <patrick52222> cheers
[10:57] <gorski> my ethernet conection doesn't start on boot.
[10:57] <patrick52222> yes
[10:58] <sethk> christian1832, I'm not clear about what you are asking
[10:58] <Gareth> as such it wont' say your IP there, just the IP that was assigned by the router
[10:58] <sethk> patrick52222, your ip address is 192.168.1.100
[10:58] <Gareth> go here http://www.dnsstuff.com/ and it will tell you the real IP that your router has
[10:58] <christian1832> so i can use the GUI to go to Places>Network Servers
[10:58] <Gareth> sethk, that's just his local IP that his router gave him
[10:58] <sethk> patrick52222, you can use the route command to find out your router's ip
[10:58] <christian1832> and then, I look at the network, and I can access files on my tablet PC throuhg my wireless network
[10:58] <patrick52222> ok thanks for lookin
[10:58] <blindx>  Depends: kdelibs4 (>=4:3.3.2-6.1) but it is not installable
[10:59] <blindx>  Depends: libmusicbrainz4 (>=2.1.1) but it is not installable
[10:59] <blindx>  Depends: libqt3c102-mt (>=3:3.3.4) but it is not installable
[10:59] <blindx> errrrrr
[10:59] <blindx> sorry
[10:59] <christian1832> i just want to know how to get to these files through the terminal
[10:59] <blindx> but yeah, thats what i get
[10:59] <sethk> Gareth, he wants his IP
[10:59] <sethk> Gareth, that's his ip
[10:59] <gorski> my network connection doesn't start on boot.
[10:59] <sethk> Gareth, if he wants something else, he needs to ask for what he wants
[10:59] <christian1832> like is there a kind of directory or address to get to these files?
[10:59] <Madpilot> blindx, if you've already added Debian stuff to your sources.list, that's probably why k3b's depends are all messed uo
[10:59] <Gareth> heh, whatever works then
[11:00] <patrick52222> can some one check http://86.0.251.110/ to see if its workin now
[11:00] <sethk> Gareth, if it is an ip he obtains from a dhcp server that happens to run on a router, that does not make it any less his machine's ip
[11:00] <blindx> oh. well can it be fixed?
[11:00] <sethk> Gareth, it sounds like he really is asking a different question, only I don't know the question.
[11:00] <Gareth> patrick52222, it works
[11:00] <jim89> How can I change the order of my network interfaces coming up? /etc/init.d/networking, or /etc/network/interfaces?  I would like eth0 to come up before ath0
[11:00] <patrick52222> yey
[11:00] <Madpilot> blindx, yes, you just need to edit your sources.list back to sanity
[11:00] <Madpilot> !+repos
[11:00] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[11:00] <Gareth> sethk, he's trying to get the correct port forwarded for a webserver I believe
[11:00] <sethk> patrick52222, are you trying to find the address to which your machine IP address is NATed to?
[11:00] <sovieticool> if i want to see movies on video.google.com i must to intall googlevideoplayer ?
[11:00] <Madpilot> blindx, 2nd URL in the bot's post above ^^^
[11:01] <patrick52222> huh?
[11:01] <sethk> Gareth, he wants the NAT on the other side of the NAT gateway, which is NOT his machine's IP address.
[11:01] <blindx> i just went in and deleted the ones i added..
[11:01] <blindx> it's installing it now
[11:01] <Gareth> yes, I know
[11:01] <Gareth> it's the router's IP that it got from DHCP
[11:01] <sethk> patrick52222, easiest way is to go to a web stite  www.whatsmyipaddress.com
[11:01] <Gareth> that's why I told him to go to http://www.dnsstuff.com/
[11:01] <michelle_> hi
[11:01] <sethk> Gareth, yes, I know, but it is still his machine's IP address.
[11:02] <sethk> Gareth, the external addres may, but may not, be his machines address.  It may be an external address shared by several machines.
[11:02] <sethk> patrick52222, try the whatsmyipaddress.com site, or the whatismyipaddress.com site.  there are several with similar names.
[11:03] <sovieticool> if i want to see movies on video.google.com i must to intall googlevideoplayer ?
[11:03] <sovieticool> yes or no or i don't know someone ?
[11:03] <sethk> you can do a traceroute and discover it that way, if you know how to read the raw data for a traceroute
[11:04] <sethk> patrick52222, but what are you trying to do?  It is doubtful you really need that number of do what you want to do
[11:04] <blindx> Is there a plugin to make avis compatible in k3b? :\
[11:04] <patrick52222> sethk: im tryinmg to setup a  webserver
[11:04] <sovieticool> w
[11:06] <tolkan> had a quick questoin about CPU throttling... only one of my CPUs is being throttled, while the other stays at the constant high clock rate.  Whta could be the problem?
[11:06] <nicolito> Hello, can anybody help me?? I want to use my usb webcam with Breezy, and I dont know how!
[11:06] <sethk> patrick52222, ok, but the questions will have to be more specific that that.
[11:07] <sethk> patrick52222, start with a problem, not with a theory.
[11:07] <tolkan> i'm running a Centrino Dual Core machine (Lenovo T60)
[11:07] <iddy> nicolito, what webcam
[11:07] <sethk> patrick52222, I know you are having to repeat yourself.  be patient, and someone will understand your system and help you with it.
[11:07] <Madpilot> !+lamp
[11:07] <ubotu> Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[11:07] <Madpilot> patrick52222, ^^^
[11:08] <nicolito> iddy, an old webcam, pen-like, RIMAX Slim Megacam
[11:08] <iddy> nicolito, plug it in and type lsusb
[11:08] <patrick52222> madpilot: i have that installed.
[11:09] <nicolito> now?
[11:09] <iddy> nicolito, pastebin the results
[11:09] <gAmEr> hi people. I want to experiment with Linux but not leave Windows forever (used Windows for 13), does Ubuntu support dual-boot and is it easy to use?
[11:09] <nicolito> ok
[11:09] <matrix> weneissssssssss
[11:10] <patrick52222> Is it possible for me it get a domain name, and link my ip internet ip to it so people can put a name insted of numbers
[11:10] <dc2447> I am using dapper and I am having problems getting a dwl-g122 usb2 wireless dongle to be recongised - it uses the rt2500 chipset.  None of the rt modules are loaded in my kubuntu install however even after that there is no /dev/rausb* device created - anyone assist?
[11:10] <Viper12> Yes to all of yer questions gAmEr.
[11:10] <nicolito> iddy, where can I paste de results?
[11:10] <Madpilot> !+pastebin
[11:10] <ubotu> [pastebin]  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[11:10] <iddy> as above
[11:11] <Viper12> To experiment with it gAmEr, you should download the live disk and boot with it to see how it works.
[11:11] <sethk> patrick52222, yes, of course it is possible, just needs a bit more
[11:11] <nicolito> iddy, where can I paste de results?
[11:11] <nicolito> ok
[11:11] <patrick52222> sethk: bit more of wat
[11:12] <gAmEr> live cd? don't know what that is but I'll use the search engine to find out :). Thanks for your help :D
[11:12] <sethk> patrick52222, you want to set up a web server, correct?
[11:12] <patrick52222> sethk: yes
[11:12] <sethk> patrick52222, what problems are you having?
[11:13] <patrick52222> sethk: i am not having a problem  now, thanks to your help. all i needed was to portforward my pc to the router
[11:13] <nicolito> iddy, ok, I pasted it
[11:14] <sethk> patrick52222, good  :)
[11:14] <nicolito> iddy, ok, I pasted it: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d12083
[11:16] <iddy> nicolito, so it's a  Aiptek MegaCam
[11:16] <iddy> Aiptek [1.3 Megapixel]  Mini PenCam
[11:17] <dc2447> anyone assist me getting my  dwl-g122 usb2 wireless dongle to be recongised in dapper?
[11:17] <nicolito> no idea, it is a "rimax 1.3 MP", or that is what is written outside the cam
[11:17] <dc2447> Its a dlink device using the rt2500 chipset?
[11:19] <al> hi, wondering if anyone can help me with ubuntu and networking
[11:19] <iddy> nicolito, so the good news is that it will work with some effort > http://spca50x.sourceforge.net/devices.html
[11:19] <patrick52222> sethk: can you look at this for me kinghome.ath.cx
[11:20] <nicolito> iddy, do I follow the instructions for "Aiptec Megacam"?
[11:21] <kapowaz> hello there. I'm trying to install the mediawiki package, but I'm told it depends on php4 and php4-mysql, but I have php5 and php5-mysql installed; according to mediawiki's developers it works fine with php5
[11:21] <kapowaz> so I'm wondering; can I either circumvent this dependency, or if not, get it fixed so it allows you to install with php5?
[11:21] <nicolito> iddy, what I need to download??
[11:21] <Jan> how to best obtain vnc.so for ubuntu Xorg server (dapper) ?
[11:22] <iddy> nicolito, http://mxhaard.free.fr/spca50x/Download/spca5xx-20060402.tar.gz
[11:22] <iddy> get that, extract it
[11:22] <burgermann> might be a dumb question, but is it possible to install the newest kernel? :s
[11:22] <hyphenated> kapowaz: can't php4 and php5 both be installed?
[11:22] <nicolito> iddy, ok
[11:23] <hyphenated> kapowaz: and if not, do you really need things that are in php5 and not in php4? (ie.. would anything break if you installed php4 instead of php5)
[11:23] <mabus> how do you configure a wireless device from the terminal? if it doesn't show up in ifconfig?
[11:23] <CpS> hellow. could anybody please advise me how to "make-install" ? i've installed gcc, but there are no "make" utility
[11:23] <hyphenated> kapowaz: lastly, things in "universe" and "multiverse" repositories aren't really supported
[11:24] <kapowaz> well that's helpful.
[11:24] <kapowaz> why the hell have a package for it?
[11:24] <kapowaz> because I can bet you *that* will work
[11:24] <nicolito> iddy, ok, I have extracted the contents of the file in a folder
[11:24] <kapowaz> also, fyi, recommending I downgrade my PHP version is not what I consider helpful advice...
[11:25] <hyphenated> kapowaz: well, you can manually fix the dependencies, but it'd break during the next update
[11:25] <iddy> nicolito, type in make install
[11:25] <nicolito> ok
[11:25] <pkh> is there a way to make evolution (and other programs) close to the taskbar?
[11:26] <al> If someone could help me to access another computer over my network it would be appreciated
[11:26] <hyphenated> al: you'd have to be more specific
[11:26] <al> i can ping it , access it using Kanotix but not ubuntu
[11:26] <CpS> ~$ make
[11:26] <CpS> bash: make: command not found
[11:26] <hyphenated> al: what service on the other machine are you trying to access? file sharing, web server, ssh?
[11:27] <{GoldenEye}> Hello to all
[11:27] <burgermann> Isn't the kernel version in ubuntu a little old?
[11:27] <CpS> what should I do ?
[11:27] <hyphenated> CpS: install the 'build-essential' package
[11:27] <nicolito> iddy, error, see the pastebin
[11:27] <al> file sharing
[11:27] <CpS> hyphenated: thanx
[11:27] <hyphenated> al: is it a windows computer?
[11:27] <{GoldenEye}> I use linux for 5 years, but I'm now starting with ubuntu 5.10!
[11:27] <al> no Kanotix
[11:28] <{GoldenEye}> And I just need some quick tips!
[11:28] <{GoldenEye}> pealse...
[11:28] <hyphenated> burgermann: do you gain anything by being bleeding-edge and running a latest release kernel?
[11:28] <al> im here through a gateway on same lan
[11:28] <dc2447> I am using dapper and I am having problems getting a DLINK dwl-g122 usb2 wireless dongle to be recongised - it uses the rt2500 chipset.  None of the rt modules are loaded in my kubuntu install however even after that there is no /dev/rausb* device created - anyone assist?
[11:28] <iddy> nicolito, sudo make install
[11:29] <al> Kanotix has samba running as well
[11:29] <burgermann> hyphenated: yah I get my wireless Broadcom card working :(
[11:29] <nicolito> iddy, same error
[11:30] <hyphenated> burgermann: you could check what kernel dapper is using. I've heard rumours that most of the releases of dapper have been stable enough. #ubuntu+1 if you're keen to try that
[11:30] <iddy> nicolito, you have buld-essentials installed
[11:30] <burgermann> hyphenated: thanks :)
[11:30] <iddy> apt-get it
[11:32] <al> hyphenated, if i'm running lisa on my kanotix box ,do i need lisa on another to file share
[11:32] <iddy> nicolito, do this > sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r` linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` build-essential gcc-3.4
[11:32] <nicolito> iddy, ok
[11:33] <nicolito> iddy, all were installed
[11:33] <al> please dont make me go back to windows
[11:34] <LathropWells> Do i need this command after editing hdparm.conf ?    sudo rc-update add hdparm boot
[11:34] <iddy> nicolito, next is > sudo make CC=gcc-3.4 > followed by > sudo modprobe -r spca5xx > followed by > sudo rm -rf /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/usb/media/spca5xx* > followed by > sudo make install > and finally > sudo modprobe spca5xx
[11:35] <{GoldenEye}> Somebody help plz!?
[11:35] <selinium> {GoldenEye}, ask the question! :)
[11:35] <hyphenated> al: not sure, I haven't played with that kind of stuff too much
[11:36] <tolkan> had a quick questoin about CPU throttling... only one of my CPUs is being throttled, while the other stays at the constant high clock rate.  Whta could be the problem?
[11:36] <selinium> {GoldenEye}, What do you need help with?
[11:37] <al> do you know whether ubuntu uses lisa?
[11:37] <hyphenated> al: by default, I doubt it. kubuntu might. lisa is a KDE tool
[11:38] <selinium> al   sudo apt-get install lisa
[11:38] <al> ah, that explains why it didnt know the command
[11:38] <selinium> al, it is available inthe repositories.
[11:38] <nicolito> iddy, ok, what to do now??
[11:38] <al> selinium, im on live cd, just trying it out
[11:39] <selinium> al ok :)
[11:39] <iddy> nicolito, try the webcam
[11:39] <al> but if it is kde then gnome should have an equivalnt
[11:39] <iddy> dmesg should recognise it under /dev/video0
[11:39] <nicolito> iddy, how can i test it?
[11:40] <johnnybezak> hey guys what do I have to install to play css encrypted dvd's with totem/gstreamer
[11:40] <iddy> gnomemeeting?
[11:40] <selinium> al, I dont use the package, one mo, i'll see if I can find a gnome version....
[11:40] <iddy> vgrabbj
[11:40] <al> is there anything i need to start to be able to share files.
[11:41] <hyphenated> al: what does the server use to share files? samba? nfs?
[11:42] <johnnyss> Is vnc 4.0-8  broken in ubuntu?
[11:42] <johnnyss> I cant get it to load the vnc.so module.
[11:42] <al> samba and lisa
[11:42] <johnnyss> first it dose not find it.
[11:43] <al> is samba pre compiled on ubuntu
[11:43] <hyphenated> al: lisa is just a tool to help KDE on that machine find stuff. on its own, it doesn't really do that much
[11:43] <nicolito> iddy, thank you very much, the webcam is now working fine!!!
[11:43] <selinium> al, try smbclient?
[11:43] <hyphenated> al: your livecd should have some samba stuff installed. try going to 'smb:/' in a nautilus window (file manager/whatever)
[11:44] <iddy> nicolito, no problem at all, glad to help a ubuntu user. enjoy your webcam
[11:44] <al> ok
[11:44] <glimp999> i need help please on setting up squid proxy server
[11:45] <selinium> al if you go to  System/Preferences/Synaptic  Ctrl-F and search for samba in name and description it chucks out lots of goodies....  Have a browse
[11:45] <graveson> how can i find out wht my art manager app keeps on crashing after opening it
[11:45] <iddy> who needs help now?
[11:46] <al> smb:/ returned No such file or directory
[11:46] <sophtpaw> how does one totally and utterly, once and for all REMOVE Totem, please?
[11:46] <arun> i need help with mplayer installation.. can anybody help me with that??
[11:46] <estupendocero> how do I mount a USB drive?
[11:46] <iddy> arun, automatix will install mplayer for you
[11:46] <selinium> glimp999, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?value=squid&action=fullsearch&context=180
[11:47] <sophtpaw> hello?
[11:47] <glimp999> ok thanks selinium
[11:47] <selinium> estupendocero, I should automount.
[11:47] <bigfoot1> i did a "history | grep keyword" in terminal. I found what i was looking for. Now how can i see the commands right before and right after I put in that command? There is a 3 digit number to the left of the command in terminal
[11:47] <arun> iddy, does it install the latest version.. bcos the one in synaptic didn't have the latest features
[11:47] <hyphenated> !automatix
[11:47] <ubotu> it has been said that automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[11:47] <selinium> estupendocero, do you mean a usb HD?
[11:47] <hyphenated> iddy: ^^ for you :-)
[11:47] <estupendocero> selinium, I don't think it is... where should it be?
[11:47] <estupendocero> selinium, no a thumb drive
[11:47] <selinium> estupendocero,  /media
[11:47] <estupendocero> looked there
[11:47] <iddy> i love hyphenated
[11:47] <iddy> whoops
[11:47] <sophtpaw> how can i completely send totem into 'outer-space', please?
[11:48] <iddy> i love automatix
[11:48] <sophtpaw> Totem sux-royal
[11:48] <selinium> estupendocero, try   sudo /etc/init.d/hotplug restart    to restart the hotplugged items.
[11:48] <hyphenated> iddy: that's your choice. either way. but don't expect either of us to love you back ;-)
[11:49] <estupendocero> selinium, trying it
[11:49] <sophtpaw> anyone else here hate totem like i do?
[11:49] <al> samba client is installed
[11:49] <al> how di i configure it
[11:49] <sophtpaw> what is with these crap default packages that come with Ubuntu/gnome that can not be uninstalled withouth loosing the desktop?
[11:49] <estupendocero> sophtpaw, I do, but haven't bothered getting rid of it
[11:50] <Natja> sophtpaw: loosing the desktop ?
[11:50] <hyphenated> sophtpaw: they're legal and not inhibited by licensing issues?
[11:50] <sophtpaw> can anyone tell me how i can dump Totem for good, withouth loosing the desktop
[11:50] <kbrooks> sophtpaw: you won't lose the desktop
[11:50] <Natja> sociopath: sudo apt-get remove totem
[11:50] <kbrooks> sophtpaw: ubuntu-desktop is just a package by itself
[11:50] <hyphenated> Natja: it's a misleading impression you get when you try to apt-get remove totem and it says it'll also remove 'ubuntu-desktop'
[11:50] <sophtpaw> when i highlight totem for removal by synaptic i am warned that ubuntu desktop will go? anyone clarify for me? please
[11:51] <selinium> desktop is a meta package containing totem
[11:51] <estupendocero> selinium, though it seems to think I have more cdrom drives than I do, the thumb drive doesn't show up
[11:51] <selinium> ?
[11:51] <estupendocero> selinium, I checked, and it isn't misidentifying the thumb drive as a cdrom
[11:51] <hyphenated> sophtpaw: ubuntu-desktop is a package containing no actual apps, just a list of other things that need to be installed
[11:51] <selinium> estupendocero, what are you using? breezy?
[11:51] <sophtpaw> so i will still have X, and everything else? (if i loose evolution in the process that would be fine by me too)
[11:51] <Natja> sophtpaw: yes
[11:51] <kbrooks> sophtpaw: synaptic woiuldd give you a FULL LIST OF the packages to be removed
[11:51] <ewankusau> hello guys anything wrong with these: iptables -A PREROUTING -t nat -i eth1 -p tcp --dport 80 -j DNAT --to 192.168.1.50:80
[11:52] <ewankusau> iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -m state --state NEW --dport 80 -i eth1 -j ACCEPT
[11:52] <estupendocero> selinium, whatever the latest release is... lemme check
[11:52] <kbrooks> sophtpaw: unfortunately, evolution is very hardwired into ubuntu
[11:52] <ewankusau> they don't seem to work as expected
[11:52] <arun> Automatix "PLEASE DO NOT INSTALL (24) IF YOU ARE IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. IT IS ILLEGAL TO DO SO."
[11:52] <sophtpaw> ok, so here here goes ubuntu desktop what ever that means, as long as i don't have to see Totem pop up again ever
[11:52] <arun> Is automatix illegal in america
[11:52] <selinium> estupendocero,   lsb_release -a  in a terminal
[11:52] <hyphenated> arun: what isn't illegal there?
[11:52] <kbrooks> arun: no
[11:52] <sophtpaw> Can someone please advise Mark to dump evolution
[11:52] <kbrooks> arun: a item is illegal in USA
[11:53] <sophtpaw> i will pick my own email client - thank you very much!
[11:53] <kbrooks> sophtpaw: community.
[11:53] <kbrooks> sophtpaw: a standard mail client is necessary
[11:53] <estupendocero> selinium, yeah, breezy 5.10
[11:53] <arun> kbrooks, what does that mean..
[11:53] <arun> kbrooks, got that.. sprry
[11:53] <kbrooks> arun: it references item 24
[11:53] <sophtpaw> kbrooks: yes, what does that mean?
[11:53] <kbrooks> arun:
[11:54] <kbrooks> !easyubuntu
[11:54] <ubotu> easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu
[11:54] <kbrooks> sophtpaw: what does what mean?
[11:54] <sophtpaw> why not thunderbird instead? or whatever, but we want to be able to loose whatever package and replace it with ease
[11:54] <kbrooks> sophtpaw: give feedback to the community
[11:54] <kbrooks> sophtpaw: well, evolution is HARDWIRED
[11:54] <sophtpaw> that is what i am doing
[11:54] <selinium> estupendocero, have you messed with your fstab?
[11:55] <sophtpaw> if a standard mail client is necessary why does it have to be hardwired?
[11:55] <kbrooks> huh
[11:55] <kbrooks> sophtpaw: hm
[11:55] <estupendocero> selinium, if I did I would have commented it, lemme check
[11:56] <sophtpaw> I hate Evolution with a venom and Totem too, someone tell Mark and his community
[11:56] <kbrooks> sophtpaw: i uninstalled something ages ago and it offered to remove the ubuntu desktop (the PACKAGES which comprise it, not ubuntu-desktop)
[11:56] <selinium> estupendocero, also take out the key and put it back in again (post hotplug restart)
[11:56] <kbrooks> sophtpaw: please dont be lazy
[11:56] <sophtpaw> kbrooks: thx, amigo : )
[11:56] <kbrooks> sophtpaw: no one here will tell the ubuntu community for you
[11:57] <kbrooks> sophtpaw: amigo == friend?
[11:57] <sophtpaw> kbrooks: oh...i thought this was the community
[11:57] <sophtpaw> yes
[11:57] <estupendocero> so selinium , sudo /etc/init.d/hotplug, then unplug and replug?
[11:57] <selinium> estupendocero, yep :)
[11:57] <kbrooks> sophtpaw: and you're telling the community here, heh,  but you might want to mail the ubuntu-users mailing list
[11:58] <sophtpaw> ok, i will
[11:58] <kbrooks> sophtpaw: hm, i can remove evolution
[11:58] <kbrooks> sophtpaw: its doing it now
[11:58] <sophtpaw> because i don't see why we have to put up with evolution and totem etc distro after distro
[11:59] <kbrooks> sophtpaw: groupware maybe
[11:59] <selinium> sophtpaw, I must admit, Totem sucks, but i dont have a problem with Evolution.   So you can see the problem that the community have... :)
[11:59] <yuion> Hi guys..can i get some help?..i cant copy any files to my usb hdd..its says you not have the rights..
[11:59] <sophtpaw> selinium: hmmm....no solution?
[12:00] <estupendocero> selinium, what is my fstab supposed to look like, specifically as it relates to the thumb drive? I messed with it, but only to fix an old problem with my slave HD
[12:00] <yuion> _jason, can you help me please jason?
[12:00] <selinium> sophtpaw, What I am saying is they can't can't please all of the people all of the time.
[12:00] <selinium> estupendocero, Probably fine then....
[12:01] <arun> has anyone used automatix to install mplayer.. does it install the latest version.. i actually used the one in synaptic which did not get the latest player :(
[12:01] <al>  why is it that many distros use evolution over thunderbird
[12:02] <selinium> arun, DONT USE AUTOMATIX !
[12:02] <ndlovu> any idea how to back up / restore address books in thunderbird?
[12:02] <arun> selinium, whats ur suggestions to get the latest version of mplayer..
[12:02] <selinium> arun, compile it yourself.
[12:03] <selinium> arun, it isn't that difficult.
[12:03] <arun> selinium, i tried it i had a tough time getting all the libraries
[12:03] <selinium> arun do a   apt-get build-dep mplayer
[12:03] <estupendocero> selinium, maybe it's a problem with my USB drivers or something?
[12:03] <ompaul> arun, did you start with sudo apt-get install build-essential (also)
[12:04] <arun> yeah i did that..
[12:04] <selinium> estupendocero, I am not sure, I have gone through my knowledge on how to solve USBKey problems, sorry.
[12:05] <selinium> arun, both?
[12:05] <estupendocero> this is the first I've used a USB device in a while, a problem might have appeared at some point and I didn't notice it...
[12:05] <ompaul> estupendocero, some times with USB there is a problem, it is this, USB can fail for any number of reasons, it is getting a lot better, but it is still far off the mark, so there are cases where rebooting the machine may make it work
[12:05] <arun> selinium,  oh i dont think i did both.. so what should i do after that
[12:06] <selinium> estupendocero, It does seem strange, try shouting the room again. :)
[12:06] <estupendocero> selinium, thanks a ton for the help anyhow... I'll give rebooting a try, and if not, I might BRB ;)
[12:06] <selinium> arun, then follow the compile instructions ubotu sent you! :)
[12:06] <selinium> estupendocero, Good Luck
[12:07] <arun> selinium, i get unable to find package for mplayer..
[12:07] <trantic> hey, anyone here who can help me configure RAID0 ?
[12:07] <al> ndlovu, tools address book, then tools export
[12:07] <Cin> Sorry about the away message, gotta find the setting for it.
[12:07] <ompaul> selinium, if I am missing when they get back it should look like this: estupendocero   /dev/sda1              1017568    150976    866592  15% /media/usbdisk
[12:08] <graveson> does anyone know wget very well. i am trying to download steaming audio
[12:08] <shinu> how would i go about making a for loop that reads each file in the dir and does something with it?
[12:09] <selinium> arun when?
[12:09] <ndlovu> al, thanks - I was actually wondering for backup purposes where it stores it by default?
[12:09] <trantic> shinu: how about * ? lite cp * /home/usrname
[12:09] <selinium> graveson,  apt-get instal streamripper
[12:09] <trantic> like* ^
[12:10] <selinium> graveson, does it all for you...
[12:10] <shinu> trantic: i want to mass unzip some stuff, and i cant do unzip *
[12:10] <trantic> ah..
[12:10] <shinu> yep
[12:10] <P__> hello
[12:10] <shinu> elo
[12:10] <graveson> selinium:thx
[12:11] <P__> it apears that the Network card Intel Pro/1000 PL has no driver for linux, someone can confirm that ? it sounds crazy to me
[12:11] <al> ndlovu, i don't know sorry, but if you open the export dialogue the default folder may be shown
[12:11] <arun> selinium,  sorry just reading the ubotu stuff.. one final question.. if i want to remove the existing installation of mplayer is there a way to do t.. i removed from synaptic but still the mplayer seems to be present
[12:11] <ndlovu> al, thanks I'll check up on that
[12:12] <selinium> WEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!
[12:12] <al> ndlovu,  do mean where the address book actualy is stored
[12:13] <selinium> arun, sudo dpkg -l '*mplayer*'|grep ii     to see what mplayer stuff is still installed.
[12:13] <ndlovu> al - yes, I have a backup script that automatically takes copies of my mail, but I'm worried that my addresses are not included in that
[12:14] <P__> nobody has an Intel Pro/1000 PL ?
[12:15] <yuion> hwo to get the admin rights to my usb harddrive??
[12:15] <al> ndlovu, beyond my small knowledge base, but try using a file manager with show hidden files and look through you home directory.
[12:16] <h-bomb> so
[12:16] <h-bomb> im in major trouble here
[12:16] <h-bomb> i did a bad thing
[12:16] <h-bomb> and i need help desperatly
[12:16] <h-bomb> and i know it was wrong
[12:16] <h-bomb> but
[12:16] <al> ndlovu, file browser i mean
[12:16] <h-bomb> i accidently did sudo chmode 700 / -v
[12:17] <ndlovu> thanks al
[12:17] <arun> it doesnt display anything.. i removed all packages from synaptic.. but i tried to compile from source.. do i have to remove all the old files before compiling again
[12:17] <h-bomb> that pooched the system obviouslyt
[12:17] <h-bomb> so i single usered it
[12:17] <h-bomb> and did 444
[12:17] <h-bomb> but
[12:17] <h-bomb> it wont come back up and im getting errors
[12:17] <h-bomb> and everything in / is root root now
[12:17] <h-bomb> and i dont know what else to do
[12:17] <selinium> !enter
[12:17] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[12:18] <h-bomb> can somone please help
[12:18] <h-bomb> anyone
[12:18] <h-bomb> any advice?
[12:18] <bimberi> h-bomb: my / is 755 and everything is owned by root:root
[12:19] <al> ndlovu,  i was gunna gloat about the cricket but someone from bangladesh might see
[12:19] <h-bomb> ok, let me try that right quick
[12:19] <h-bomb> im in single user mode
[12:19] <patrick52222> i need a domain name which will allow me to have subdomains, does anyone know of any good ones
[12:20] <Overand> patrick52222: all (real) domains names allow subdomains
[12:20] <h-bomb> ok
[12:20] <h-bomb> seems to have worked
[12:20] <selinium> arun, You shouldn't have to.     do a locate mplayer and find the files that remain. You could delete them by hand, but I think this is overkill.
[12:20] <Overand> patrick52222: I use godaddy.com to register my domain names, but it's just one of countless good ones.
[12:20] <h-bomb> i can now get to the gui
[12:20] <h-bomb> one quick question
[12:20] <h-bomb> is the / directory supposed to be 755
[12:20] <h-bomb> i want to make sure all is well
[12:21] <bimberi> h-bomb: yes / should be 755
[12:21] <patrick52222> overand: right so if i got a name say  www.kingfly.org wat would i do to get subdomains
[12:22] <selinium> arun, please put my nick in when chatting to me, I am using two machines, and I will miss your messages.
[12:22] <h-bomb> ok, kewl
[12:22] <bimberi> h-bomb: at least you didn't use -r :)
[12:22] <selinium> bimberi, -R :)
[12:22] <h-bomb> i got an error message that said "$home/.dmrc file should be owned by user and have 644 permissions"
[12:22] <bimberi> selinium: yes realised as i hit the key - thanks :)
[12:22] <h-bomb> when i logged in
[12:22] <h-bomb> yeah bimberi
[12:23] <arun> selinium, thanks a lot.. but i get an error saying mplayer not found when i do.. "sudo apt-get build-dep mplayer
[12:23] <arun> " after i download and configure as per the insns
[12:24] <h-bomb> 05:22:15a <h-bomb> i got an error message that said "$home/.dmrc file should be owned by user and have 644 permissions"
[12:24] <selinium> arun, what version are you trying to compile. For what chip?
[12:24] <h-bomb> i guess ill chgrp $home/.dmrc to hbomb-homb
[12:24] <h-bomb> and then change the permission
[12:24] <selinium> h-bomb, Will you stop that, wait for a reply, and stop hitting enter and filling the channel.
[12:24] <selinium> !enter
[12:24] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[12:24] <Overand> patrick52222: that would be something you would do through whoever/whatever provides your DNS service.
[12:24] <h-bomb> i apoligize
[12:24] <patrick52222> ow ok
[12:25] <h-bomb> i did not know i was doing anything wrong
[12:25] <arun> i m using a x86 chip..  and i downloaded the latest version of mplayer from the website which was MPlayer v1.0pre7try2
[12:25] <arun> selinium, i m using a x86 chip..  and i downloaded the latest version of mplayer from the website which was MPlayer v1.0pre7try2
[12:25] <selinium> h-bomb, Give people a chance to reply, constantly hitting the enter key is bad practice. :)
[12:26] <h-bomb> understood
[12:26] <Drako60> can anyone tell me where i can find the xorg source used in ubuntu?
[12:26] <ompaul> h-bomb, you have quite an obnocious name - mass murder of a doubious legal kind is what it was designed for - now your machine "chown -R username:username  /home/username" is about the best you can hope for
[12:26] <h-bomb> ...
[12:26] <bimberi> hartym: please disable the /away notifications - thanks
[12:26] <h-bomb> my name not the discussion here
[12:27] <h-bomb> thank you
[12:27] <ompaul> h-bomb, I find it disrespectful
[12:27] <h-bomb> i came here for help not to be harrased for my nick
[12:27] <selinium> h-bomb, the $home   is your user name.  so you might do     sudo chown h-bomb:h-bomb /h-bomb/.dmrc && sudo chmod -R 0644 /h-bomb/.dmrc
[12:28] <ompaul> h-bomb, and you have been given good advice
[12:28] <Overand> ompaul: I think that's somewhat silly.
[12:28] <Overand> If you find it offensive, /ignore
[12:28] <h-bomb> thank you selinium
[12:28] <selinium> h-bomb, np :)
[12:28] <Overand> ompaul: you might as well find the nick 'hydrochloric_acid' offensive because it can be used to throw in someone's face.  But, this is off-topic.
[12:29] <al> can anyone tell me haow i go about configuring sambr, is there a preconpiled gui for this
[12:29] <selinium> arun, sudo apt-get build-dep mplayer-586
[12:30] <ompaul> !tell al about samba
[12:30] <ompaul> al all the instuctions you need to make it work are there
[12:31] <arun> selinium, still the same error "E: Unable to find a source package for mplayer
[12:31] <arun> "
[12:32] <selinium> have you enabled the sources in your repo?
[12:32] <al> ompaul, , where? im on live cd and there doesnt appear to be a controll centre
[12:33] <ompaul> al I got the channel bot to send you a message, it points to a couple of urls which tell you step by step how to do it
[12:33] <arun> selinium, you mean the "show disable software source" option
[12:33] <al> ompaul, cheers
[12:34] <selinium> arun, possibly, i edit the list by hand  :)
[12:34] !lilo:*! About 20 minutes ago we experienced an 'event' on a main rotation server, currently out of rotation for load balancing....the server momentarily went out of contact, dumping roughly 1500 users to other servers.
[12:34] <arun> selinium, yeah i did that.. and i added the multiverse as well.. and still i get the error.. :(:(
[12:34] <h-bomb> hmm
[12:34] <h-bomb> chown: cannot access `/hbomb/.dmrc': No such file or directory
[12:34] <selinium> arun, there might not be a source made available...
[12:35] <ompaul> h-bomb, are you logged in as yourself or root?
[12:35] <h-bomb> myself
[12:35] !lilo:*! We're looking at the situation and don't have any information at present; it just looks like a momentary routing glitch. Apologies for the inconvenience. We'll see what we can find out. Thanks.
[12:35] <ompaul> in a termina;?
[12:35] <h-bomb> i did sudo
[12:35] <arun> selinium, okay.. so what should i do?
[12:35] <h-bomb> yes
[12:35] <h-bomb> ssh
[12:35] <bimberi> h-bomb: /home/hbomb/.dmrc
[12:36] <h-bomb> thanks, il try that
[12:36] <h-bomb> that seems to have worked
[12:36] <selinium> arun, then you will have to compile it. When you get an error, stick it in pastebin and we will crack it! :)
[12:37] <h-bomb> another question, should everything in my home directory of /home/hbomb be hbomb:hbomb
[12:38] <bimberi> h-bomb: yes
[12:38] <h-bomb> ok, thanks
[12:38] <ompaul> h-bomb, there are so few cases that that should not be the case that I would say yes, in general I have never been hurt by owning all the files in my own directory
[12:38] <h-bomb> ok
[12:39] <arun> selinium,  k.. thanks a lot for the help.. i have to catch some sleep right now.. i really gotto get this done by tommorow.. i
[12:39] <ompaul> h-bomb, usually they are files you get from elsewhere that have permissions on them that don't count anyway
[12:39] <sethk> h-bomb, if another program puts a file there with different ownership, there is no reason to change it.  that is unless you think it's a mistake, or leftover, or causing a problem
[12:39] <h-bomb> ok
[12:40] !lilo:*! Small regional server just went out of contact; affected users: about 260.
[12:40] <h-bomb> drwxr-xr-x  2 root  root  4096 2006-04-06 21:51 dirlist
[12:40] <h-bomb> i cant remmember if that is supposed to be root or not
[12:41] <bimberi> h-bomb: i'm guessing that's from running something with sudo
[12:42] <h-bomb> heh
[12:42] <h-bomb> well theres nothing in it
[12:42] <h-bomb> lol
[12:44] <ompaul> !enter
[12:44] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[12:44] <ompaul> h-bomb, it has been said to you before, now please put all your thoughts into one line and then press the enter key, and don't be using the enter key as a comma, thanks
[12:44] <jungle> <object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/LpC80NrHrTc"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/LpC80NrHrTc" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="425" height="350"></embed></object>
[12:44] <vbhanu>  I use freenx server on my system and use nxclient to connect to my linux box from a remote system, every time i login it starts a new session, is there anyway i can get the same session as the one that is running on my system, the session in to which i am already logged on?
[12:45] <jungle> <object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/LpC80NrHrTc"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/LpC80NrHrTc" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="425" height="350"></embed></object>
[12:45] <ompaul> opem
[12:45] <selinium> Hi apokryphos, did you see about the link in the topic on #ubuntu-uk about a UK ubuntu meeting?
[12:46] <h-bomb> hmm, it seems other users on my box have my group permissions, ie hbomb:hbomb
[12:46] <apokryphos> selinium: just saw it now, interesting.
[12:47] <ompaul> h-bomb, okay so ehh how many other users have you?
[12:47] <h-bomb> 5 others
[12:47] <al> ompaul, thanks, it appears that there is a bit of difference between live cd and installed
[12:48] <h-bomb> i guess i could sudo chown user:user  /home/user -R
[12:48] <selinium> ompaul, Now that is what I call viral marketing. Auto posting you embedding Flash movie all over the internet!
[12:48] <ompaul> h-bomb, so in the command in their home directorys is >>chown -R username:username *<< in each of their directories
[12:49] <h-bomb> ok, kewl, ill try that
[12:49] <yaiza> ula
[12:49] <yaiza> :S
[12:50] <h-bomb> also i want to be sure that in the / directory everything is suppose to have the ownership of root:root
[12:50] <ompaul> selinium, no comment, but I am thinking of an ex russian spammer
[12:50] <leagris> hello all
[12:50] <ompaul> h-bomb, this was already confirmed for you
[12:51] <h-bomb> i want to be sure
[12:51] <leagris> cane someone recommand me some easy graphical DVD authoring tool for K/Ubuntu ?
[12:52] <h-bomb> what does the * in the cmd chown -R username:username * do?
[12:53] <graveson1> selinium:can you help me with streamripper .i managed to get it going (through a proxy) ,but now it just seems to be sitting there and not doing anything
[12:53] <HymnToLife> h-bomb> man chown :p
[12:53] <ompaul> h-bomb, it means every file inthere in fact it should have a full stop in front of it, >>chown -R username:username .*<<
[12:53] <scorchsaber> * means all, if I'm not mistaken.
[12:53] <h-bomb> ok, kewl
[12:53] <selinium> graveson, have you checked out the man streamripper ?
[12:54] <leagris> qdvdauthor is not available for dapper despite it is mentioned on ubuntu wiki page for DVDAuthoring. What other graphical tool is available for dapper?
[12:54] <selinium> graveson, Here you are... http://streamripper.sourceforge.net/tutorialconsole.php    :)   Tutorial!
[12:55] <ktogias> Hi, I have submitted a bug report about Dapper's xorg (ATI driver) switching off or not properly syncronizing the display of my Acer Aspire 1692WLMi. The bugreport is here https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-driver-ati/+bug/39232/ . If anyone else has the same laptop it would be usefull to test and confirm the bug.
[12:56] <P__> someone has the Intel Pro/1000 PL network card ?
[12:57] <P__> how can I see what card is using which IRQ on Ubuntu ?
[12:57] <apokryphos> ktogias: #ubuntu+1 for dapper discussion
[12:58] <immolo> anyone know what cpu scaling tools ubuntu uses
[12:58] <P__> When i modprobe the driver I get an error, unable de reserve memory region ...
[12:58] <d-o-b> any cool gtk2 screenshot utils? (besides gimp)
[01:00] <Sanne> P__, lspci -v shows the irq. Check man lspci for details.
[01:02] <P__> Sanne, ok then it's the right one, do I have to specify th ememory manually whenmodprobing the driver ?
[01:03] <Sanne> P__, sorry, I don't know, that's over my head :)
[01:07] <Drako60> what is this error, i keep getting a /usr/include/linux/config.h:1:2: error
[01:12] <Yokalosh> when i try to use the themed greeter rather than the gtk greeter on gdm i get an error saying the configuration is wrong, it doesnt tell me what but how would i find out and correct it
[01:15] <pao> hi if I  want to have a directory of images (say for Desktop Background) and I want it to be usuable by all users and I want to avoid to have it on the /home partition, where should I put it ? /var ? /usr/share ?
[01:17] <zuokanyunqi> there are difference between boot sector and its backups
[01:17] <graveson1> can anyone help me with streamripper
[01:17] <pao> or should I put it in /usr/X11R6/include ?
[01:17] <zuokanyunqi> when booting it displays this
[01:17] <zuokanyunqi> how to solve
[01:18] <marek_> i <3 #ubuntu
[01:18] <marek_> nite everyone
[01:19] <zuokanyunqi> can anyone help me
[01:20] <pao> anyone ?
[01:20] <h-bomb> thanks everyone for your help, i really appreaciate it, i apoligize for the enter  key issue, not used to typing like that, once again thanks for the help, everything seems to be working perfectly now :)
[01:20] <zuokanyunqi> pao , can you help me
[01:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> !tell zuokanyunqi about anyone
[01:21] <robertalexander> so,
[01:21] <zuokanyunqi> there are difference between boot sector and its backups
[01:21] <robertalexander> has anyone ever won four in a row?
[01:22] <zuokanyunqi> how to solve this
[01:22] <Invader_Zim> hello
[01:22] <capashen> Is someone using a dongle wifi usb dlink please ?
[01:24] <ompaul> zuokanyunqi, do you mean superblock?
[01:24] <ompaul> ahh
[01:24] <gnomefreak> robertalexander: please take that to #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:25] <robertalexander> sorry, ok
[01:28] <xerophyte> Does anybody know good linux cluster and load balancing books ???
[01:29] <pao> hi I have installed ubuntu on a Imac but the screen does not spread  on the whole screen; on imac there is no physical buttons to configure your monitor; how can I do then ?
[01:30] <Opinie> I'd like to know that too I had the same problem when I was using my live cd on one of my schools computers
[01:31] <LathropWells> pao - i am guessing it canbe solved by editing the xorg.conf
[01:32] <Opinie> LathropWells: Could you explain that to me I didn't understand that? (sorry I'm a bit of a noob)
[01:32] <sophtpaw> anyone here have experience of wireless keyboard and mice on Linux os per se or Ubuntu specifically?
[01:33] <Opinie> I've some experience of a wireless mouse
[01:33] !lilo:*! Small regional server restarted, affected users, about 250.
[01:34] <LathropWells> unfortuneatly me too. - nearly all settings for the display are in /etc/X11/xorg.conf - i would google for a sample conf file (someone has posted it you can bet.)
[01:34] <ConfidentiaL> I followed this guide, but the php server isn't working, can any1 help me? : http://davidwinter.me.uk/articles/2006/02/05/ubuntu-5-10-web-server-howto
[01:34] !lilo:*! Tiny split, about 20 users, to test rehubbing.
[01:35] <sophtpaw> Opinie: successful experience?
[01:35] <Opinie> soptpaw: yeah
[01:35] <Opinie> sorry *sophtpaw
[01:35] <Opinie> sophtpaw: Are you having some problems?
[01:35] <sophtpaw> Opinie: np, so, what make or model? usb?
[01:36] <sophtpaw> Opinie: haven't got one yet, want to make sure i shop for the right one
[01:37] <Opinie> Sopgtpaw: maker: Lohitech, Model: Mx laser 20x (or something like that) and yes usb
[01:37] <sophtpaw> Opinie: Logitech?
[01:37] <gilianima> why files which the size is greater than 1GB are not displayed in the arborescence of my web server ?
[01:37] <Opinie> sophtpaw: Yes, sorry about that typo =D
[01:37] <sophtpaw> Opinie: cool
[01:38] <Sanne> ConfidentiaL, I followed the ubuntu wiki for a LAMP setup and it works fine: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[01:38] <|lostbyte|> Has any one here compiled nvida drivers ?
[01:38] <|lostbyte|> nvidia*
[01:38] <sophtpaw> Opinie: and you just plug it in and it works?
[01:38] <Opinie> sophtpaw: yep
[01:39] <sophtpaw> Opinie: cool, should be the same with a keyboard then, what you reckon?
[01:39] <Opinie> sophtpaw: I thought that I might have some trouble when I bought it, but instead it just started working
[01:40] <ConfidentiaL> Sanne: Is that up to date?
[01:40] <sophtpaw> Opinie: yes, that is the fear when getting hardware for Linux os oftenenough. Its such a relief when it 'just works' though
[01:40] <Sanne> ConfidentiaL, I assume it is, for Breezy it works.
[01:40] <Opinie> sophtpaw: that's true =/
[01:40] <Sanne> ConfidentiaL, scroll to the bottom: last edited 2006-04-08
[01:41] <Opinie> sopthpaw: I think it's the same with keyboards
[01:41] <ConfidentiaL> Sanne: Oh, then it should prolly work just smooth for a noob like me on Ubuntu 5.10 :P
[01:42] <Sanne> ConfidentiaL, I think it should. I would generally recommend trying the official wiki first if you can find info there, I found it really helpful.
[01:43] <Opinie> sopthpaw: meaning that they'll work just by plugging them in...
[01:44] <sophtpaw> Opinie: i'm ebay-ing for it now. Not cheap! (not in uk sterling prices anyways)
[01:48] <kbrooks> I ned tomwrite something
[01:48] <kbrooks> um
[01:48] <kbrooks> what woiuld remove the "ubuntu-desktop" package?
[01:48] <kbrooks> oh yeah
[01:49] <kbrooks> sophtpaw: btw hi
[01:49] <Invader_Zim> hello
[01:50] <apokryphos> kbrooks: loads of things :P
[01:50] <gnomefreak> kbrooks: there are a few things just trying to remember what they are
[01:50] <gnomefreak> i know aptitude wants to get rid of xfce4 and everything that goes with it :(
[01:50] <apokryphos> kbrooks: might be worth noting though, in whatever you're writing, that the same applies for the other key metapackages (kubuntu-desktop, edubuntu etc etc)
[01:51] <apokryphos> gnomefreak: a problem with aptitude :P. If all that stuff was installed as a dependency...
[01:52] <sophtpaw> kbrooks: hiya...
[01:52] <gnomefreak> apokryphos: true
[01:53] <sophtpaw> gnomefreak: hiya..
[01:53] <tswift> hi
[01:53] <gnomefreak> hi sophtpaw
[01:54] <kbrooks> Myth #1: "ubuntu-desktop", when removed, will remove the full Ubuntu desktop.
[01:54] <kbrooks>   No, it won't. "ubuntu-desktop" is a metapackage (package of packages); it is not the full Ubuntu desktop by itself.
[01:54] <zielony> Hello I have noobish question here. How can I install new fonts in gnome ? I want to use them in GIMP
[01:55] <pianoboy3333__> Can I have some IRC help?
[01:55] <kbrooks> pianoboy3333__: Ask
[01:55] <budintysis123> yes
[01:55] <Hobbsee> in one channel, not two...
[01:55] <pianoboy3333__> ok, fine
[01:55] <Hobbsee> :P
[01:56] <Sanne> zielony, I just put some ttf fonts in ~/.fonts. After that, theres some command youneed to run to make those fonts available, I don't remember. Does anyone know?
[01:56] <budintysis123> hmm... gal yra kas is Lietuvos
[01:56] <kbrooks> Sanne: shouldnt have to
[01:56] <LathropWells>  maybe ubotu has something.
[01:56] <kbrooks> !fonts
[01:56] <ubotu> hmm... fonts is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FontInstallHowto
[01:57] <kbrooks> Sanne: ^
[01:57] <sopowae> aloooo
[01:57] <Sanne> kbrooks, ah, thanks a lot :)
[01:57] <LathropWells> ubotu you are a genius. - lol
[01:57] <ubotu> LathropWells: I think you lost me on that one
[01:57] <Sanne> zielony, check the link ubotu gave.
[01:57] <zielony> i`m reading it right now, thx
[01:57] <alon> how do i change permissions to a folder and all files and folders inside it?
[01:58] <tswift> sanne : fc-cache -f
[01:58] <kbrooks> LathropWells: people teach him
[01:58] <Sanne> tswift, ah, that was it, thanks :)
[01:58] <kbrooks> not the other way around
[01:58] <Inazad> how I can stop the Xserver and to go in the console mode ?
[01:59] <LathropWells> gotta be some very experienced users to teach him so much. well.. like you kbrooks.
[01:59] <alon> how do i change permissions to a folder and all files and folders inside it?
[01:59] <kbrooks> LathropWells: er, its trivial to teach him
[01:59] <LathropWells> alon - i think umask is the command - sry i couldn't be more help.
[02:00] <sml> has anyone use syslinux before? i have an error message ... "mount: unknown filesystem type 'msdos'
[02:00] <kbrooks> LathropWells: you just type: "ubotu: factoid is <reply>..."
[02:00] <kbrooks> alon: he's wrong
[02:00] <kbrooks> alon: umask stands for "user mask"
[02:01] <Sanne> alon, the command is chmod. Check man chmod how to do it recursively, I don't know, maybe -r or -R
[02:01] <kbrooks> alon: you want chmod -R
[02:01] <kbrooks> Sanne: case matters
[02:01] <sophtpaw> anyone know if most/any Logitech wireless keyboard/mouse works out of the box on Ubuntu?
[02:01] <Sanne> kbrooks, if course, I just didn't know which one it was ;)
[02:01] <kbrooks> Sanne: btw, have you heard of cp -a? it means "archive" or "all"
[02:01] <xwindow> Hello, somebody help me to install DB2 support into Ubuntu PHP5 Package?
[02:02] <zebarbu> hi, anybody manage to play with bzFlag ?
[02:02] <Sanne> kbrooks, dunno, sorry, man cp should tell you.
[02:03] <kbrooks> Sanne: its the same as -d (which preserves links), -p (which preserves mode, ownership and timestamps) and -R (which means recursive)
[02:03] <zebarbu> nobody plays bzFlag here?!?
[02:03] <zebarbu> are there any geek here?
[02:04] <Invader_Zim> anyone here played around with IPTABLES?
[02:04] <Sanne> kbrooks, yeah, I'm reading it right now, never used it, seems useful. Thanks for mentioning.
[02:06] <budintysis123> Lithuania ???
[02:08] <tswift> zebarbu i've just search for bzFlag. it seems to a nice game on linux. i'll try it tonight.thanx
[02:08] <xwindow> Hello, somebody help me to active DB2 support into Ubuntu PHP5?
[02:12] <calloc> I want to allow a workmate access my box at home for various purposes but I dont want them to be able to leave their home dir is thios possible?
[02:13] <sovieticool> i have a little problem whit mplayer can help me somebody ?http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12090
[02:13] <immolo> calloc, just give him access as a localuser
[02:13] <apokryphos> sovieticool: did you install from the ubuntu repositories?
[02:13] <root_> Rhythmbox 0.9.0 that comes with Ubuntu v5.1 reports mp3 files as files of unknown format. Does Rhythmbox v0.9.0 handle mp3 ?
[02:14] <sovieticool> yes
[02:14] <calloc> immolo, How do you mean? If I create a normalk user account, he/she can go to / and possible web dirs etc, I dont want this to be able to happen
[02:14] <sovieticool> i don't remember exactly
[02:14] <immolo> calloc, but he can't write or read
[02:14] <apokryphos> sovieticool: dpkg -l|grep mplayer ?
[02:15] <calloc> immolo, is there a way of jailing him at all, so he cant even snoop tho?
[02:15] <sovieticool> done
[02:15] <apokryphos> sovieticool: no output?
[02:15] <sovieticool> what is this ..it will work ?
[02:15] <immolo> calloc, chroot is the only way I can think
[02:15] <sovieticool> dpkg -l|grep mplayer
[02:15] <sovieticool> ii  mozilla-mplayer                    3.05-1ubuntu1                        MPlayer-Plugin for Mozilla
[02:15] <sovieticool> ii  mplayer                            1.0-pre7cvs20050716-0.1ubuntu9       The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux
[02:15] <sovieticool> this show to me
[02:15] <immolo> but then you aren't using the same system so to speak
[02:15] <calloc> immolo, How would you go about dong this in the SSH conf?
[02:16] <|lostbyte|> ?
[02:16] <immolo> calloc, I've never used chroot other then to install gentoo
[02:16] <apokryphos> sovieticool: you're on breezy? Doesn't look like you installed from the ubuntu repositories to me...
[02:16] <MenZa> The Wiki seems to be broken, somehow
[02:16] <immolo> calloc, but it is possible to use chroot as a jail
[02:16] <apokryphos> no wait, yes you did :)
[02:16] <sovieticool> yes breezy !
[02:16] <root_> Ubuntu v5.1 + mp3 files --> what app can open mp3 files ?
[02:16] <sovieticool> :)
[02:16] <calloc> Anyone know how to chroot a user to their home dir?
[02:17] <immolo> calloc, google for ssh chroot jail
[02:17] <alon> how do i do that mounted partitions (windows in my case) won'y be displayed on desktop?
[02:17] <apokryphos> sovieticool: odd that it calls the package mplayer, though; when actually it's mplayer-386 or whatever.
[02:17] <apokryphos> sovieticool: anyhow, download apt-file, search for which package has that font, then just manually copy it over. Easy enough.
[02:17] <apokryphos> sovieticool: or you can just search for which package contains that file from http://packages.ubuntu.com
[02:18] <MenZa> http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/8630/screenshotuserpreferencesubunt.png <- what the devil is wrong here? It says "password don't match"... the problem is, I only see one place to put in my password.
[02:18] <msoeken> root_: mp3blaster is very cool and small. you have more comfort with amarok (but it needs kde libs)
[02:18] <sovieticool> where to download apt-file apokryphos
[02:19] <Sanne> root_, I use xmms and like it a lot.
[02:19] <MenZa> root_: good mp3/media player? Get Listen
[02:19] <YellowTeeth> anyone know whats up with Frostwire.com
[02:19] <apokryphos> sovieticool: sudo apt-get install apt-file, or just look on packages.ubuntu.com and search for package containing that font there
[02:19] <alon> how do i do that mounted partitions (windows in my case) won'y be displayed on desktop?
[02:19] <patrick52222> how do i set up a simple email server
[02:20] <patrick52222> or wat could i use
[02:20] <MenZa> http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/8630/screenshotuserpreferencesubunt.png <- what the devil is wrong here? It says "password don't match"... the problem is, I only see one place to put in my password. It's really weird
[02:21] <patrick52222> ANY ONE
[02:21] <sovieticool> i can't find it :( apokryphos
[02:21] <sovieticool> i try
[02:21] <|lostbyte|> patrick52222: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MailServer?highlight=%28mail%29
[02:22] <tswift> alon the menu-editor may solve ur question.
[02:22] <apokryphos> sovieticool: hm, yup, doesn't seem to be in any of the main breezy repos
[02:22] <alon> tswift and how do i access it?
[02:23] <sovieticool> :((
[02:23] <root_> Thank you msoeken, Sanne and MenZa. Peter
[02:23] <apokryphos> sovieticool: one sec
[02:23] <sovieticool> :) ok
[02:23] <tswift> alon: i can't remember the name of the app. but just like the regedit on windows. if u use gnome. it can be found at the root menu
[02:24] <MenZa> root_: not at all. Oh yes, http://listengnome.free.fr
[02:24] <msoeken> tswift: gconf?
[02:24] <apokryphos> sovieticool: hm, looks like it really just wants arial.
[02:24] <tswift> yes
[02:24] <apokryphos> sovieticool: install msttcorefonts and type this command: sudo ln -s /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType/Arial.ttf /usr/local/share/mplayer/subfont.ttf
[02:25] <tswift> then you search "desktop",and find what you wanna modify.
[02:25] <apokryphos> sovieticool: also do this: ln -s /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType/Arial.ttf ~/.mplayer/subfont.ttf
[02:26] <sovieticool> whis this don't work :(
[02:26] <sovieticool> sudo ln -s /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType/Arial.ttf /usr/local/share/mplayer/subfont.ttf
[02:26] <MisterN> hi
[02:26] <apokryphos> sovieticool: what?
[02:26] <sovieticool> this say to me to me  No such file or directory
[02:27] <apokryphos> sovieticool: did you install msttcorefonts?
[02:27] <sovieticool> from where from synaptic ?
[02:27] <apokryphos> yes
[02:27] <sovieticool> ok i will try now
[02:28] <gerhard> how do i install gproftpd-8.2.2?
[02:28] <gerhard> i loaded the sources
[02:28] <gerhard> and did the ./configure
[02:28] <gerhard> and now?
[02:28] <apokryphos> gerhard: did it finish without errors?
[02:28] <gerhard> mom
[02:28] <apokryphos> yes?
[02:29] <sovieticool> i try synaptic and there is msttcorefonts are market
[02:29] <gerhard> checking for gtk+-2.0 >= 1.3.13... Package gtk+-2.0 was not found in the pkg-con fig search path. Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gtk+-2.0.pc' t o the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable No package 'gtk+-2.0' found
[02:29] <gerhard> configure: error: Library requirements (gtk+-2.0 >= 1.3.13) not met; consider ad justing the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your libraries are in a nons tandard prefix so pkg-config can find them.
[02:29] <sovieticool> so they are instaled !
[02:29] <Petfrogg> hello!
[02:29] <DewDude> gerhard: did you install build-essential?
[02:29] <apokryphos> sovieticool: ok, hold on.
[02:29] <Linuxhjelp> Ive got maybe the same problem
[02:29] <gerhard> i dont know
[02:29] <Petfrogg> i installed ubuntu using vmware player from the one www.vmware.com - but what is the root password?
[02:29] <gerhard> there is no Petfrogg
[02:30] <Linuxhjelp> when im trying to build ive got gcc-3.4: command not found
[02:30] <CosmoDad> anyone else suffering from k3b/growisofs erros like "Failed to change write speed: 5540->11080"?
[02:30] <gerhard> you must type sudo before root commands
[02:30] <DewDude> if you want to change your root password, you can do a sudo passwd root
[02:30] <Linuxhjelp> but in synaptic i can only download ver 3.3 and 4.0
[02:30] <CosmoDad> I bought this new box of DVD-Rs and now k3b doesn't seem to be able to recognize speed correctly
[02:30] <gerhard> DewDude I will check for build essential stuff
[02:30] <gerhard> wait
[02:30] <DewDude> ok
[02:30] <LathropWells> petfrogg - your user password and the sudo command is all you will need
[02:30] <DewDude> just do sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:31] <gerhard> yes it is installed
[02:31] <LathropWells> !tell pettfrog about rootsudo
[02:31] <DewDude> ok
[02:31] <Petfrogg> gerhard: but i wannt to update and then it wants me to give a password
[02:31] <Petfrogg> but i have none
[02:31] <gerhard> i looked it up in synaptiv
[02:31] <DewDude> did you install checkinstall?
[02:31] <apokryphos> sovieticool: what does locate arial.ttf give?
[02:31] <gerhard> thats your user password Petfrogg
[02:31] <gerhard> wait^^
[02:31] <Petfrogg> i cant change password cause there is no password
[02:31] <gerhard> installs..
[02:32] <sovieticool> i don't understand ? where is location of arial ?
[02:32] <Petfrogg> gerhard?
[02:32] <gerhard> yes
[02:32] <DewDude> now, what you need to do is look at your configure output and see what' smissing, it looks like you're missing gtk
[02:32] <apokryphos> sovieticool: in a terminal type: locate arial.ttf
[02:32] <DewDude> so, look for gtk packages in synaptic
[02:32] <DewDude> and install one....if you see a -dev package, install that
[02:32] <gerhard> me?
[02:32] <DewDude> yes you gerhard
[02:32] <gerhard> ok
[02:33] <DewDude> actually, there used to be a way to have apt install the dependencies
[02:33] <sovieticool> /usr/share/fonts/truetype/msttcorefonts/arial.ttf
[02:33] <DewDude> but i can't remember what it is
[02:33] <apokryphos> gerhard: do something like sudo apt-get build-dep gedit
[02:33] <DewDude>  YES
[02:33] <DewDude> build-dep
[02:33] <apokryphos> sovieticool: hm, ok. So just type....
[02:33] <DewDude> then run configure, make, then sudo checkinstall
[02:33] <DewDude> checkinstall does a nicer job than running make install
[02:33] <apokryphos> sovieticool: ln -s /usr/share/fonts/truetype/msttcorefonts/arial.ttf ~/.mplayer/subfont.ttf
[02:33] <gerhard> libgtk2.0-dev ok?
[02:34] <gerhard> oh
[02:34] <gerhard> ok mom
[02:34] <sovieticool> same error
[02:34] <sovieticool> No such file or directory
[02:34] <apokryphos> sovieticool: what does it say exactly?
[02:35] <apokryphos> sovieticool: pastebin the full output?
[02:35] <gerhard> downloads
[02:35] <ndlovu> if I want to install standard (albeit proprietary) fonts like verdana, will the package msttcorefonts do the trick?
[02:35] <sovieticool> ln: creating symbolic link `/root/.mplayer/subfont.ttf' to `/usr/share/fonts/truetype/msttcorefonts/arial.ttf': No such file or directory
[02:35] <apokryphos> sovieticool: get out of root :)_
[02:35] <apokryphos> sovieticool: only sudo for root commands
[02:36] <Petfrogg> gerhard: you did you say i had no password? but what password should i then give?
[02:36] <gerhard> when you type the sudo, it wants one right?
[02:36] <gerhard> thats your user password
[02:36] <Petfrogg> yes
[02:36] <Petfrogg> but i have no user password
[02:37] <sovieticool> yep apokryphos
[02:37] <gerhard> strange
[02:37] <sovieticool> now work :)
[02:37] <apokryphos> cool!
[02:37] <gerhard> have you tried just to hit enter?
[02:37] <sovieticool> thanx a lot !!!!
[02:37] <Petfrogg> gerhard: yes
[02:37] <Petfrogg> didn't work
[02:38] <gerhard> ok the package is installed apokryphos
[02:38] <gerhard> then i dont know
[02:38] <Petfrogg> thanx!
[02:38] <gerhard> because i have a password and it works
[02:38] <Petfrogg> anyone that does know?
[02:38] <gerhard> sorry
[02:38] <apokryphos> gerhard: reconfigure
[02:38] <Petfrogg> gerhard: it is ok
[02:38] <gerhard> again ./configure ?
[02:39] <gerhard> cool
[02:39] <gerhard> worked this time
[02:39] <sovieticool> apokryphos,  i have another problem but ...
[02:39] <gerhard> and now?
[02:39] <apokryphos> gerhard: no errors?
[02:39] <gerhard> no
[02:39] <gerhard> er yes
[02:39] <gerhard> no errors
[02:40] <sovieticool> i have a 5.1 sistem and the subwoofer and center don't work :(
[02:40] <apokryphos> gerhard: now make
[02:40] <gerhard> i have no sound at all thats even worse sovietcool^^
[02:40] <gerhard> ok
[02:40] <sovieticool> :)
[02:41] <gerhard> i think it worked
[02:41] <DewDude> gee
[02:41] <DewDude> i had no problems getting sound to work
[02:41] <DewDude> alsa picked everything up
[02:41] <gerhard> now make install ?
[02:41] <apokryphos> gerhard: ok, now sudo checkinstall (or sudo make install)
[02:41] <DewDude> no
[02:41] <DewDude> gerhard, checkinstall
[02:41] <gerhard> k thx
[02:41] <gerhard> sudo or not?
[02:41] <DewDude> yes
[02:41] <DewDude> sudo checkinstall
[02:41] <gerhard> ok
[02:42] <CosmoDad> can I somehow prevent Gnome from mounting emtpy CD-/DVD-Rs?
[02:42] <jean> Hi, i have installed the sane back and front ends (from cvs) and i still cannot detect my scanner (lexmark 1180), any ideas?
[02:42] <gerhard> shall it create a default set of package docs?
[02:42] <Tailsfan> At least it loaded...
[02:42] <Nameeater> where are gpg keys kept? I need to get mine off an old hdd
[02:42] <gerhard> mh
[02:42] <gerhard> yes
[02:42] <DewDude> ger: yes
[02:42] <DewDude> gerhard, most of the defaults will work just fine, it's what i do.
[02:43] <Tailsfan> How long does ti take for the new firefox to install with a Live CD?
[02:43] <gerhard> and as Description?
 jean i hope you get an answer to your question i have a similar one.
[02:43] <DewDude> is it a freeform text entry?
[02:43] <gerhard> yes i typed proftp gui or something
[02:43] <gerhard> ha it worked
[02:43] <gerhard> :D
[02:43] <DewDude> heh
[02:44] <gerhard> thanks!
[02:44] <DewDude> no problem
[02:44] <LathropWells> tailsfan - between 20 mins and an hour. - athlon 3400 about 35 mins
[02:44] <sovieticool> is existing a bik command to make a bih backup ..because i like my setting and i don't want to broke this instalation :)
[02:44] <avalost> while doing a dist-upgrade to the latest flight upgrade stalled on a gstreamer-misc package so I went ahead and sis "install -f" to install the other packages
[02:44] <gerhard> and how do i launch it now?
[02:44] <Tailsfan> Thanks
[02:44] <avalost> > from breezy
[02:44] <jean> LathropWells: well i have tried running xsane as root and that didnt help either, what have you tried so far?
[02:44] <DewDude> is there a menu entry?
[02:44] <_kalm> hello... i need help with my ubuntu... where do u get a usb driver? mine cant read usb devices...(welll i dont know it shows it in "usbview" but dont know how to acces it)
[02:44] <[cro] smiley> does anyone have experience with building gnomemm project in Anjuta?
[02:45] <avalost> should I do anything else to ensure that i'm all up to date?
[02:45] <gerhard> my menu is very large
[02:45] <gerhard> i didnt find one
[02:45] <_kalm> btw i meant a pen drive
[02:45] <DewDude> gerhard, you can try typing whereis <appname>
[02:45] <_kalm> got a 256mb usb flash and dont know how to acces it
[02:45] <DewDude> but you usually have to know the name of the binary
[02:45] <ulx> hello. im running ubuntu hoary and id like to have a look at lighttpd. cant seem to find it in the repos though..
[02:46] <avalost> oh jeez, no my home dir is now writable for some reason?
[02:46] <LathropWells> jean - yes, tried that too. i only have one thing left to try... tearing my hair out. (not likely to help.)
[02:46] <DewDude> and if you knew the name of the binary, typing it at command line would load it
[02:46] <DewDude> usually
[02:46] <gerhard>  Done. The new package has been installed and saved to
[02:46] <gerhard>  /home/gerhard/Desktop/gproftpd-8.2.2/gproftpd-8.2.2_8.2.2-1_i386.deb
[02:46] <msoeken> _kalm: usb flash is often /dev/sd*
[02:46] <mabus> _kalm: look in /mnt
[02:46] <gerhard> that?
[02:46] <graveson1> can anyone help me download  a streaming audio - i tried wget and streamripper but no luck
[02:47] <ndlovu> _kalm: I think it would probably be in somewhere in the /media directory
[02:47] <DewDude> graveson1, you need streamripper
[02:47] <avalost> can anyone tell me what my /homne/user dir should be chmodded/chowned to?
[02:47] <jean> LathropWell: got the printing part to work, although sane says my scanner is supported basically i cant even detect it.. *sniff
[02:47] <Tailsfan> and also when you download something with Synaptic, Does tio store the info in the hard drive when using a Live CD
[02:47] <mwe> avalost: the user should own it
[02:48] <gerhard> DewDude help me please^^ wheres my package?
[02:48] <graveson1> dewdude: streamripper just seems to sit there and not do anything - i go through a proxy
[02:48] <mwe> avalost: default perms are 755 for home dirs
[02:48] <Installer36> I did a new install last night and used the brezzy X86 install disk , which I normally use on my older Dell .The new puter is one I put together and it has a Pentium 4 with a a 1.4g processor..Question is should I have used the 586 install instead?Or does it really matter?
[02:48] <avalost> thanks mwe
[02:48] <DewDude> graveson1, then i don't know
[02:48] <orbin> Installer36: 586 *is* x86
[02:48] <DewDude> gerhard, i really don't know what to say..umm..what program were you compiling
[02:48] <orbin> Installer36: you can always change the kernel later anyway
[02:48] <LathropWells> graveson - i was getting "empty stream message" - got gstreame - mad codec and that seemed to fix it.
[02:49] <gerhard> err
[02:49] <LathropWells> erm a gstreamer plug-in codec
[02:49] <Hexidigital> does anyone using gdesklets know where i can get an IRC client desklet?
[02:49] <gerhard> http://gnomefiles.org/download.php?soft_id=554&where=http%3A%2F%2Fmange.dynalias.org%2Flinux%2Fgproftpd%2Fgproftpd-8.2.2.tar.gz
[02:49] <gerhard> i got that from gnomefiles
[02:49] <Installer36> orbin everything works but when I did upgrade it held back the Kernel upgrade?
[02:51] <gerhard> any ideas what to do?
[02:51] <mkrenz> Does anyone know what packages I need to install in the Dapper Live CD to get audio in mpeg videos with mpeg audio?
[02:51] <orbin> Installer36: kernel installs arent part of updates
[02:51] <mabus> Is there an option to boot the livecd without a gui?
[02:51] <Installer36> Upgrade
[02:51] <jean> does anyone have tips to get a scanner working? otherwise i'll have to reinstall windows :(
[02:51] <jean> !scanner
[02:51] <ubotu> For scanners in Ubuntu, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScanningHowTo and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners
[02:51] <mwe> mkrenz: you can't install anything on the live cd
[02:52] <sovieticool> o another problem apokryphos
[02:52] <mkrenz> mwe, Yes you can.  Its just not saved.  But that's besides the point, I'm making a custom LiveCD.
[02:52] <mkrenz> So it will save it. ;-)
[02:52] <apokryphos> sovieticool: shoot
[02:52] <sovieticool> whit that mplayer
[02:52] <sovieticool> :((((
[02:52] <orbin> hi sovieticool
[02:53] <_kalm> no ppl i cannot find it theres no /dev/sd theres nothing in /mnt or /media...?
[02:53] <sovieticool> when i try to play full screen
[02:53] <Petfrogg> passwd seems to be ubuntu
[02:53] <sovieticool> hy orbin !
[02:53] <Petfrogg> but that wasn't to good but after changing it i could then start the update
[02:53] <sovieticool> when is on full screen is not play on entire of the screen ! :(
[02:53] <martyn_> hey guys how do i install Mplayer
[02:54] <Hobbsee> !+mplayer
[02:54] <ubotu> rumour has it, mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[02:54] <mabus> is it a good choice to make a cusom livecd with ubuntu, if it's destined to be on a really crappy computer? I don't plan on installing gnome or anything, but would I be better off trying to make a custom live cd of some other distro?
[02:54] <gerhard> synaptic says, it is installed
[02:54] <sophtpaw> kbrooks: do you know how i can choose a specific media player?
[02:54] <khurram> hi to all
[02:54] <sophtpaw> i've uninstalled totem but it still pops up when i click on video
[02:55] <Klaynos> sophtpaw: rightclick properties open with
[02:55] <sovieticool> it is play all movie at native of movie resolution !!
[02:55] <sovieticool> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12092
[02:55] <sophtpaw> Klaynos: rightclick on the video?
[02:55] <apokryphos> sovieticool: oh, I think if you change the video codec or something tha tit uses you would be ok
[02:55] <davehb> quitte
[02:56] <Klaynos> any file of the type you want to natively run in it
[02:56] <sovieticool> i will try :)
[02:56] <orbin> sovieticool: nope, it's an mplayer quirk.  there's an option to pass iirc
[02:56] <ulx> hello. im running ubuntu hoary and id like to have a look at lighttpd. cant seem to find it in the repos though..
[02:56] <ulx> is there any deb package for ubuntu hoary?
[02:56] <mwe> mkrenz: If you install something on the live cd, how does it manage to write to a read only file system?
[02:56] <sovieticool> waht option ?
[02:56] <sophtpaw> Klaynos: looked at properties but there is no 'open-with'
[02:57] <sophtpaw> :s
[02:57] <martyn_> guys i am having major trouble installing Mplayer i have added univer and mutiunver but still no luck can any 1 help
[02:57] <sovieticool> on proprieties ?
[02:57] <orbin> ulx: doesn't seem to be.  anyway, try packages.ubuntu.com
[02:57] <sophtpaw> martyn_: it aint easy is all i can say. Still figuring mine out so sorry i can't help
[02:57] <gerhard> Dewdude it works i just had to sudo gproftpd
[02:57] <apokryphos> sovieticool: don't remember at all now since I don't have it installed and don't run it, but it's something related to video output/codec
[02:57] <orbin> sovieticool: no, i think it's something you need to pass on the command line or something.  search the forum
[02:57] <Klaynos> sophtpaw: 4th tab along?  I've got it here :s
[02:58] <sovieticool> ok
[02:58] <mwe> gerhard: don't use sudo for gui apps. it can scramble your account perms
[02:58] <sovieticool> thanx apokryphos and orbin
[02:58] <khurram> hi dears
[02:58] <gerhard> but it needs root rights to write the config files
[02:58] <mwe> gerhard: use gksudo instead
[02:58] <khurram> how are you
[02:58] <gerhard> ok
[02:58] <mwe> !gksudo
[02:58] <ubotu> Use gksudo to run gtk applications with root privileges. Using sudo to start gtk apps can scramble your user account permissions.
[02:58] <martyn_> can any 1 help keepgetting error when i try to install Mplayer http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12093
[02:59] <sovieticool> now i have a problem it's apear he don't have resolvation !
[02:59] <mkrenz> mwe, you're not on a read only filesystem.  Maybe things are different in Dapper, but I can touch files in /usr etc just fine.
[02:59] <gerhard> why does sudo scramble my permissions?
[02:59] <sophtpaw> Klaynos: maybe it depends what it is; but here i right click on vid that i want to watch, go to properties and there are no 'tabs'
[02:59] <apokryphos> martyn_: my guess is you don't have the multiverse repository enabled
[02:59] <martyn_> i have
[02:59] <Klaynos> sophtpaw: is it a file in your filesystem or viewing in the web browser?
[02:59] <apokryphos> !info mplayer-286
[03:00] <apokryphos> !info mplayer-386
[03:00] <ubotu> mplayer-386: (The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 1:1.0-pre7cvs20050716-0.1ubuntu9 (breezy), Packaged size: 3729 kB, Installed size: 8268 kB
[03:00] <sophtpaw> martyn_: i'm in the same boat. If you want something to work out of the box you have to get windows or Apple, but then they're not free
[03:00] <ulx> seems its in breezy only orbin..
[03:00] <apokryphos> martyn_: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:00] <sophtpaw> Klaynos: webrowser
[03:00] <orbin> mwe: maybe alter the factoid.  gksudo syntax is different ain't it?
[03:00] <sophtpaw> www.subudlife.com
[03:00] <apokryphos> orbin: to what? sudo? Nope, the same.
[03:00] <mwe> mkrenz: I see. you need a lot of ram to keep the whole cd in memory though. it probably just loads what you need. I wasn't aware you were building a custom live cd though, so ...
[03:00] <martyn_> apokryphos: how do i get that
[03:01] <apokryphos> !pastebin
[03:01] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, totally, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[03:01] <sophtpaw> Klaynos: it's in www.subudlife.com ; looking at (trying to)  videos of a conference. Using Firefox
[03:01] <Klaynos> sophtpaw: firefox?  you're best to install the firefox plugin for mplayer, or if that's done setting the correct options, or just download the vid
[03:01] <orbin> apokryphos: the whole needing to put stuff in quotes thing
[03:01] <mwe> orbin: it's gksudo whatever, just like sudo
[03:01] <apokryphos> martyn_: to get the file, just alt+f2 -> gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:01] <Klaynos> firefox is setup to use totum for files, you need to change it :s
[03:02] <orbin> apokryphos, mwe:  e.g. gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf doesn't work as you would think
[03:02] <sophtpaw> Klaynos: ok, lets try downloading firefox plgin for mplayer; where?/how?
[03:02] <martyn_> apokryphos: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12094
[03:02] <Klaynos> I belive it's in the repositories
[03:02] <LathropWells> Thank you for your help. - G'nite!
[03:02] <mwe> orbin: what do you mean?
[03:02] <root_> I am so tired of trying to get mp3 to play and DVDs to play under Linux...
[03:02] <orbin> mwe: try it
[03:02] <apokryphos> orbin: odd, it would work fine with kdesu
[03:02] <gerhard> whats the command to tell me my ip (ipconfig) ?
[03:02] <Klaynos> sophtpaw: http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/misc/mozilla-mplayer
[03:02] <apokryphos> martyn_: as I said... you don't have multiverse enabled :)
[03:03] <apokryphos> martyn_: type /msg ubotu repositories    in here
[03:03] <me2win> gerhard: your local ip or you  external ip
[03:03] <gerhard> local
[03:03] <me2win> ifconfig
[03:03] <gnomefreak> gerhard: ifconfig in linux
[03:03] <gerhard> argh
[03:03] <gerhard> why if ?
[03:03] <martyn_> i ebaled them in the synapitic mate like the guide said
[03:03] <orbin> apokryphos, mwe: hence the need for quotes. e.g.: gksudo 'gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[03:03] <Marlun> Can I install Window Maker instead of Gnome in Ubuntu?
[03:03] <gerhard> mh thanks anyway^^
[03:03] <mkrenz> Ok, so back to my question does anyone know what packages I need to install in the Dapper Live CD to get audio in mpeg videos with mpeg audio?
[03:04] <mwe> orbin: I don't have gedit. it works with kate without quotes though
[03:04] <sophtpaw> Klaynos: totem is exactly what popped up although i completely and utterly removed it forever. So...it must be as you say 'coz of firefox using totem as default. Where/how do i find to change that over to Xine-ui or Mplayer, please?
[03:04] <orbin> Marlun: two options. do a server install and just get window maker and X stuff, or do a deafult install and leave gnome on the system after wmaker install
[03:05] <apokryphos> martyn_: in particular this section: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto#head-45edcdb233b5b386b0760db59e62dd44dc40aeda
[03:05] <orbin> mwe: why would you use gksudo in kde? :-/
[03:05] <Klaynos> sophtpaw: I *think* in firefox tools - preferences - Download
[03:05] <mwe> orbin: I wouldn't
[03:05] <mwe> orbin: it works though
[03:05] <gerhard> my leg has fallen asleep :(
[03:05] <orbin> mwe: ah
[03:05] <scanwinder> I installed motv in ubuntu dapper and im getting the following error: "motv: error while loading shared libraries: libXm.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" This problem dosent seem unique to Dapper, it happened in breezy aswell.....is there something i need to install to get libXm.so.3?
[03:05] <martyn_> apokryphos: i have done that
[03:06] <orbin> mwe: i've just resorted to tell then to use nano :P
[03:06] <apokryphos> martyn_: no, you haven't. It says to change "universe" parts to "universe multiverse". You... haven't :)
[03:07] <mwe> orbin: If you tell someone to use nano, be prepared to explain how to save the file and so as well though :)
[03:07] <martyn_> apokryphos: i see my mistake thx lol :P
[03:07] <mwe> orbin: most people odly refuse to read
[03:07] <pansonic> need a avi movie editor for badger
[03:07] <orbin> mwe: yeah, i usually have to.  but they then know how to use a console editor
[03:07] <mwe> orbin: yeah
[03:07] <sovieticool> !mplayer
[03:07] <ubotu> mplayer is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[03:08] <wolfsong13> how do i run synaptic as root from my login?
[03:08] <orbin> pansonic: kino.  never tried it though
[03:08] <pansonic> thanx
[03:08] <mwe> orbin: hmm. gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf seems to work fine without quotes here
[03:08] <sophtpaw> Klaynos: can't find it. Edit/preferences yes but nothing to configure what firefox will use to play from browser
[03:09] <msoeken> pansonic: avidemux2
[03:09] <orbin> wolfsong13: it'll prompt it for your pswd if you run it from sys>admin
[03:09] <pansonic> ty all
[03:09] <orbin> mwe: you don't get gedit trying to make a new file xorg.conf' ?
[03:09] <wolfsong13> orbin: i entered it incorrectly and now it just fails immediately
[03:09] <martyn_> apokryphos: thats it workin now thx
[03:09] <mwe> orbin: no. it opens the existing one
[03:10] <orbin> mwe: dunno.  still won't work for me
[03:10] <mwe> orbin: sounds broken
[03:11] <orbin> mwe: maybe...must be broken on a whole lot of other boxes then...i didn't find that quirk, someone else was talking about it
[03:11] <urss> hi
[03:11] <orbin> and like, 5 other guys tried it out
[03:11] <urss> I have an error with my Ati R300 (9500 pro) like you can see here http://pastebin.com/655531 someone can help my please ?
[03:11] <orbin> mwe: apokryphos included
[03:12] <apokryphos> ?
[03:12] <mwe> orbin: it's a bug. it should be reported
[03:12] <sophtpaw> i'm in a dark hell again...oh well...
[03:12] <sophtpaw> a well that is dark as hell
[03:12] <orbin> apokryphos: you tried gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf right?
[03:12] <noiesmo> urss, get rid of nvidia
[03:13] <apokryphos> orbin: nope, I don't have it installed.
[03:13] <orbin> oh, whoops.
[03:13] <urss> noiesmo, a technical help please, not a commercial advertissement ;) (sure the next will be nvidia)
[03:13] <noiesmo> urss, check your /etc/modules file for nvidia remove it yoou should not have any nvidia stuff installed if you are using ati card
[03:14] <noiesmo> urss, you say you have ati your paste bin says nvidia in kernel not a commercial advertissement --- K :|
[03:14] <urss> noiesmo, it's the nvidia-agp module pour my nforce
[03:15] <noiesmo> urss, ok sorry
[03:15] <urss> noiesmo, sorry too, I did'nt understand too ^^
[03:16] <urss> noiesmo, I have an amd64 installed on a breezy i686
[03:16] <wolfsong13> how do i run synaptic as root from my login or get it to allow me to reenter the root pwd?
[03:16] <Jallu_> how do u configure the X session to use icewm(instead of XFCE)?
[03:16] <noiesmo> wolfsong13, sudo passwd root
[03:16] <martyn_> how do i install the KDE desktop
[03:17] <apokryphos> martyn_: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[03:17] <martyn_> cheers
[03:17] <orbin> wolfsong13: what does gksudo synaptic do?
[03:17] <orbin> kalm_: how are you starting icewm now?
[03:18] <urss> why do I have this line : #
[03:18] <urss> (EE) fglrx(0): [agp]  unable to acquire AGP, error "xf86_ENODEV" please ?
[03:18] <lupz> hy
[03:18] <lupz> what is the plugin required
[03:18] <lupz> to play wmv video in totem ?
[03:18] <martyn_> does any know of any packeages that will lower the fan speed on my grx card
[03:19] <gerhard> how do I install a skype debian package called skype_1.2.0.18-2_i386.deb ?
[03:19] <msoeken> gerhard: sudo dpkg -i ...deb
[03:19] <gerhard> thx
[03:19] <javaJake> Hey, I have an ndiswrapper bug
[03:19] <waylandbill> using command line zip, I want to only zip changed files, but first I want it to just dump the list of files it intends to zip. Is this possible?
[03:19] <javaJake> Wondering if there's a workaround
[03:20] <wolfsong13> orbin: it gives an error "Failed to run /usr/bin/update-manager as user root: Child terminated with 1 status"
[03:20] <sovieticool> sudo dpkg -i skype_1.2.0.18-2_i386.deb
[03:22] <sovieticool> bye all gtg
[03:22] <juhamatti> pevvvee
[03:22] <juhamatti> vaatatkaaaaaa
[03:22] <juhamatti> kuulitteko
[03:22] <orbin> !ops
[03:22] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, fabbione, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee
[03:22] <YellowTeeth> anyone have the froswire installation file they could send me please
[03:22] <juhamatti> vastatkaajuu juu
[03:23] <Amaranth> haha
[03:23] <YellowTeeth> lolz
[03:23] <Seveas> nice teamwork
[03:23] <Hobbsee> well that was effective :P
[03:23] <jbroome> holy crap.  ops roll deep in here. :)
[03:23] <gerhard> lol
[03:23] <Seveas> but he didn't get a warning
[03:23] <Seveas> wasn't fair at all
[03:23] <Hobbsee> Seveas: warning was in the quit message...
[03:23] <Amaranth> we sallied
[03:23] <jbroome> he got kicked, not banned.  i'd say that's a warning
[03:23] <orbin> waylandbill: i think tar can do a trial run
[03:23] <sovieticool> bye orbin, apokryphos for all help
[03:23] <Amaranth> (pushed out in force)
[03:24] <conmiweb> hi, anybody can help me with kubuntu?
[03:24] <Seveas> jbroome, I disagree, politely telling someone this channel is english only is the first step
[03:24] <YellowTeeth> i guess this is a strict chat room
[03:24] <lupz> hi all, what is the plugin required to play wmv video in totem ? thanks :)
[03:24] <sovieticool> got to go hehe
[03:24] <Seveas> apokryphos, please warn people first in the future
[03:24] <Hobbsee> conmiweb: ask in #kubuntu
[03:24] <stjepan> hi
[03:24] <wolfsong13> orbin: it gives an error "Failed to run /usr/bin/update-manager as user root: Child terminated with 1 status"
[03:24] <jbroome> Seveas: good point
[03:24] <apokryphos> Seveas: it wasn't that he was just talking in another language; it was that he was flooding.
[03:24] <conmiweb> there aren't nobody:(
[03:24] <Cal> hey. Anyone know why the desktop turns brown every time I restart my pc? I use ubuntu breezy badger server + xubuntu desktop.
[03:24] <stjepan> I downloaded kubuntu dapper and I can't boot it!! :( any ideas?
[03:24] <Amaranth> Seveas: I don't think that was a real language.
[03:24] <orbin> wolfsong13: i do't know what that means to be honest
[03:24] <gerhard> argh! the console says skype needs libstdc++5. when i try to install that, it wants gcc-3.3-base, but when i want to install gcc-3.3-base, it needs libstdc++5 again!
[03:24] <Cin> Cal, turns brown?
[03:24] <waylandbill> orbin: ok, then I can use gzip argument to achieve the compression.
[03:24] <Seveas> Amaranth, it's finnish
[03:24] <javaJake> stjepan: #kubuntu is the best place for that
[03:24] <orbin> wolfsong13: try searching the forum for that error string
[03:24] <Seveas> finnish just looks THAT weird :)
[03:25] <stjepan> javaJake: no, it is a problem with ubuntu
[03:25] <bliss1_> hi
[03:25] <gnomefreak> Cal: in your login screen setup you will see a color thing change that to the color you like ;)
[03:25] <Hobbsee> gerhard: try installing both at the same time.
[03:25] <Cal> yeah, Cin, the desktop picture I usually uses dissapears and turns brown :-/
[03:25] <Amaranth> Seveas: Looks like a cat walked on the keyboard
[03:25] <kalm_> no it doesnt im finnish!!!
[03:25] <apokryphos> stjepan: what flight?
[03:25] <stjepan> the newest one
[03:25] <stjepan> 6
[03:25] <orbin> waylandbill: sure.  tar with the z option filters it thru gzip for you
[03:25] <gerhard> Hobbsee: how?
[03:25] <lupz> hi all, what is the plugin required to play wmv video in totem ? thanks :)
[03:25] <Seveas> I repeat, finnish just looks THAT weird :)
[03:25] <bliss1_> is thee a way to keep scrensaver on all the time instead of screen going blank
[03:25] <javaJake> Here's the problem: I am using a WMP54GS Linksys wireless card. ndiswrapper will load, no errors, checked the logs, etc, no errors.
[03:25] <Hobbsee> gerhard: sudo apt-get install libstdc++5 gcc-3.3-base
[03:25] <gnomefreak> !wmv
[03:25] <ubotu> it has been said that restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[03:25] <javaJake>  Ubuntu flight 6 just won't use my card.
[03:25] <apokryphos> lupz: totem-xine
[03:25] <kalm_> Seveas saatanan pilkunnussija!
[03:25] <Cal> gnomefreak well, I got a picture which I use for my desktop. And it changes everytime I restart :-/
[03:26] <lupz> apokryphos: on xgl works bad
[03:26] <kalm_> Long Live FINLAND
[03:26] <gnomefreak> yuck :(
[03:26] <lupz> apokryphos: as gstreamer0.10-pitfdll
[03:26] <YellowTeeth> LOVE LIVE ENGLAND
[03:26] <gerhard> Hobbsee ok I try
[03:26] <YellowTeeth> LONG*
[03:26] <lupz> lol
[03:26] <_kalm> FINLAND
[03:26] <apokryphos> lupz: it does? I'd say that was more a problem with XGL on Ubuntu. Videos played fine for me with totem-xine on XGL (well, on Kororaa)
[03:26] <YellowTeeth> ENGLAND
[03:26] <Seveas> kalm_, please calm... didn't mean it offensive
[03:26] <Seveas> YellowTeeth, stop.
[03:26] <stjepan> can I install ubuntu dapper 5 amd64 and turn it into ubuntu dapper i386?
[03:26] <YellowTeeth> ok chill
[03:26] <javaJake> Here's the problem: I am using a WMP54GS Linksys wireless card. ndiswrapper will load, no errors, checked the logs, etc, no errors.
[03:26] <apokryphos> YellowTeeth: #ubuntu-uk :)
[03:26] <_kalm> :P
[03:27] <lupz> apokryphos: some videos are someway distorted
[03:27] <YellowTeeth> yea?
[03:27] <gerhard> Hobbsee seems to work, thanks
[03:27] <stjepan> I've got two CD's: dapper flight 5 amd64 and dapper flight 6 i386
[03:27] <Hobbsee> gerhard: yay :)
[03:27] <apokryphos> stjepan: and it doesn't boot at all?
[03:27] <apokryphos> install CD?
[03:27] <stjepan> what to do? Do I have to download another version of kubuntu?
[03:27] <javaJake> OK, anyone here have any knowledge about Flight 6 and Linsys wireless cards?
[03:27] <stjepan> apokryphos: yeah
[03:27] <stjepan> it doesn't boot :(
[03:27] <javaJake> Otherwise I will just leave
[03:28] <apokryphos> stjepan: it, for definite, works for others.
[03:28] <stjepan> burapokryphos: I burned it with 24x speed
[03:28] <Amaranth> stjepan: error messages?
[03:28] <javaJake> Not to be mean... just don't want to waste time
[03:28] <apokryphos> stjepan: that shouldn't matter, of course.
[03:28] <stjepan> Amaranth: no error messages
[03:28] <gerhard> cool, skype runs
[03:28] <Hexidigital> javajake, ask in the dapper forum... /join #ubuntu+1
[03:28] <stjepan> apokryphos: yes, burning speed MAY matter
[03:28] <Amaranth> stjepan: Also, it's usually a good idea to burn at 4x, anything higher seems to cause random issues
[03:28] <bliss1_> nickrud: ping tied to desk still?
[03:28] <stjepan> Amaranth: and what do you recommend? to burn it at 4x?
[03:29] <Amaranth> stjepan: You can try. First make sure the md5sum of the iso is right
[03:29] <stjepan> Amaranth: md5sum is OK
[03:29] <nickrud> morning bliss1_ yup I'm hard at work, accounting if you're interested :)
[03:29] <bliss1_> is thee a way to keep scrensaver on all the time instead of screen going blank
[03:30] <stjepan> Amaranth: I'll try to md5sum the burned version
[03:30] <apokryphos> bliss1_: that depends on your monitor setup/settings, really
[03:30] <martyn_> does any know of any poker softwear that works ok for linux
[03:30] <tombs> hi all
[03:30] <YellowTeeth> i'm looking for music software
[03:30] <Amaranth> can you md5sum a device? (/dev/hdc)
[03:30] <YellowTeeth> for making music
[03:30] <Amaranth> i don't think that works
[03:31] <bliss1_> apokryphos: where can I find those settings so i can amand
[03:31] <stjepan> Amaranth: md5sum a device o_O ?
[03:31] <bliss1_> amend
[03:31] <YellowTeeth> anyone know if Pro Logic 7 could work on ubuntu
[03:31] <Kamping_Kaise1> Amaranth: yeh you can
[03:31] <apokryphos> bliss1_: monitor manual?
[03:31] <Amaranth> YellowTeeth: Most likely, no.
[03:31] <stjepan> Amaranth: how? md5sum -c /dev/cdrom ?
[03:31] <Amaranth> YellowTeeth: Audio editing is kind of a weak spot in linux
[03:31] <ubu> Hello, does anyone know how I can get FIrefox 1.5 to work on Ubuntu 5.10?
[03:31] <YellowTeeth> ahhh
[03:32] <Kamping_Kaise1> md5sum /dev/whatever
[03:32] <Amaranth> stjepan: *shrug* kamping_Kaise1 seems to know
[03:32] <YellowTeeth> looks like im gonna buy a mac
[03:32] <conmiweb> anybody knows how to install a Sony Eye Toy from PlayStation 2, webcam?
[03:32] <Hobbsee> !tell ubu about firefox1.5
[03:32] <balachmar> @ubu There is a howto on ubuntu forums about getting FF1.5 to work in 5.10
[03:32] <bliss1_> apokryphos: are there no settings in ubuntu that determin the screensaver say under power management?
[03:33] <apokryphos> bliss1_: the screensaver can fine and dandy be controlled by ubuntu. But some monitors initiate their own powersaving after a given time
[03:34] <balachmar> @ubu see the following link
[03:34] <conmiweb> anybody knows how to install a Sony Eye Toy from PlayStation 2, webcam?
[03:34] <balachmar> @ubu http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=151179&highlight=FireFox+1.5
[03:34] <bliss1_> apokryphos: ok its the one controled by unbuntu where are the settings to be found?
[03:35] <gerhard> yay, i just installed nerolinux without asking anyone :D
[03:35] <yrjo> how do I get Celestia?
[03:35] <varsendagger> !restrictedformats
[03:35] <ubotu> [restrictedformats]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[03:36] <stjepan> why not md5sum a device in this way: "md5sum -c /mnt/cdrom/md5sum.txt" ?
[03:36] <yrjo> galaxy program
[03:36] <Tm_T> yrjo: easy
[03:37] <Tm_T> yrjo: "apt-get install celestia" ?
[03:37] <Tm_T> sudo ofcourse
[03:37] <yrjo> ok
[03:37] <stjepan> how to grep the lines in a file which don't contain "OK"?
[03:37] <v3ctor> grep -v OK
[03:37] <Tm_T> yrjo: also you're welcome to #ubuntu-fi
[03:38] <stjepan> tnx
[03:38] <yrjo> finnish ubuntu
[03:38] <noaXess> hi folks..
[03:38] <Tm_T> yrjo: yup ;)
[03:39] <noaXess> is there a function to automaticly check for updates on kubunut?..
[03:39] <Tm_T> noaXess: automatically? you doesn't like to feel the excitement of new upgrade?
[03:39] <noaXess> ... automaticcaly
[03:39] <noaXess> .. yea
[03:39] <noaXess> Tm_T: i mean to check automatically and inform me about it..
[03:40] <Tm_T> hum
[03:40] <_kalm> why is ppl all of a sudden talking about us fins?
[03:40] <Tm_T> in dapper, that is
[03:40] <_kalm> *finns
[03:40] <noaXess> Tm_T: i use breezy..
[03:40] <noaXess> Tm_T: in the gnome desktop enviroment, there was a applet to do that..
[03:40] <Tm_T> _kalm: because I noticed fellow finn and invited him finnish channel where it's easier to help him
[03:41] <Tm_T> noaXess: true, and similar will be in dapper
[03:41] <orbin> noaXess: ask #kubuntu
[03:41] <andika> ACALAMUALAICUW WR~WB ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
[03:41] <Hobbsee> andika: why the rubbish?
[03:41] <noaXess> orbin: i was yesterday in kubuntu.. but there is a silence.. like a forrest.. :)
[03:41] <Tm_T> orbin: he got his answer already
[03:42] <bliss1_> nickrud: where are the screen saver /power settings controled by unbuntu to be found?
[03:42] <SP4RKY_91> !splashscreen
[03:42] <ubotu> I guess splashscreen is to change your splashscreen via a GUI, "sudo apt-get install gtweakui", or install "gtweakui" from Synaptic (make sure you have universe !repos enabled)
[03:42] <orbin> Tm_T: oh, guessed i missed it, sorry
[03:42] <balachmar> Could anyone tell me how stable dapper is at the moment?
[03:42] <apokryphos> andika: please don't be annoying.
[03:42] <Tm_T> orbin: oh well, no hurt geelings ;)
[03:42] <Klaynos> bliss1_: system - preferences - screensaver...
[03:42] <SP4RKY_91> How change splash screen in Ubuntu ?
[03:43] <orbin> SP4RKY_91: you just brought up the factoid :-/
[03:44] <orbin> Hobbsee: nice work.  :)
[03:44] <Hobbsee> orbin: thanks.  seems that they keep being needed tonight...
[03:45] <SP4RKY_91> !cedega
[03:45] <bliss1_> Klaynos: thanks
[03:45] <Hobbsee> noaXess: if you're on dapper, the adept updater
[03:45] <SP4RKY_91> !wine
[03:45] <Tm_T> Hobbsee: he's not
[03:45] <nickrud> bliss1_, in the monitor section of xorg.conf & system-prefs-xscreensaver
[03:45] <Hobbsee> ah ok
[03:45] <noaXess> Hobbsee: no.. not yet i'm on kubuntu breezy 5.1
[03:45] <v3ctor> i use adept on kubuntu breezy
[03:45] <conmiweb> anybody knows how to install a Sony Eye Toy from PlayStation 2, webcam?
[03:46] <bliss1_> nickrud: xorg.conf also thanks nick
[03:46] <arrick> morning everybody
[03:47] <bliss1_> arrick: morning arrick!
[03:47] <conmiweb> anybody knows how to install a Sony Eye Toy from PlayStation 2, webcam?
[03:47] <graveson1> where can i find more info on enlightenment and gnome
[03:47] <gerhard> how do i activate DMA for my CD burner?
[03:47] <conmiweb> anybody knows how to install a Sony Eye Toy from PlayStation 2, webcam?
[03:47] <conmiweb> how can I install my graphics drivers for use xgl?I've an Acer TravelMate 660
[03:47] <orbin> conmiweb: more space b/n posts please
[03:48] <Hybernate> hi what was the name of the tool to configure the firewall
[03:48] <orbin> firestarter
[03:48] <Hybernate> thx
[03:48] <v3ctor> or guarddog
[03:49] <orbin> conmiweb: you need dapper for xgl
[03:49] <Aeudian> good morning guys, question, how do i set my wireless card ra0 to use wep key 2
[03:49] <apokryphos> gerhard: /msg ubotu dma
[03:49] <gerhard> thx
[03:50] <orbin> conmiweb: http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/trurl_pagecontent?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.josemariasotomayor.net%2Fwordpress%2Findex.php%3Fp%3D13&lp=es_en
[03:50] <gerhard> bo uboutu here it says
[03:50] <gerhard> no
[03:50] <orbin> conmiweb: found that via the forum
[03:50] <gerhard> ah ubotu
[03:50] <gerhard> sry^^
[03:51] <varsendagger> hey iam using grip, what do i need to install to get it to rip to mp3?
[03:52] <Versed`> how does one update kde desktop to 3.5.2?
[03:53] <Hobbsee> !kde3.5.2
[03:53] <ubotu> To upgrade to KDE3.5.1, Follow the instructions at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-352.php (add the deb...line to your sources.list). Then "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".
[03:53] <mikodelacruz> hello
[03:53] <orbin> varsendagger: heh, the package descr. seems to imply it should be able to do that when you install it
[03:54] <mikodelacruz> Help, I can no longer enjoy watching videos when i switch to ubuntu, how can i play videos just as this http://musebay.com/2006/04/12/taylor-hicks-crazy-little-thing-called-love/#more-184
[03:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> !tell mikodelacruz about restricted
[03:58] <mikodelacruz> Kamping_Kaiser,  is there an easy way to download all those stuff at once
[03:58] <gerhard> !rar
[03:58] <ubotu> I heard rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[04:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> mikodelacruz: ask in #easyubuntu
[04:03] <Cal> lol this is starting to irretate me alot now. I use a picture as desktop background. And everytine I restart the pc the picture is replaced by a 100% brown background, and my desktop manager says the picture is loaded.
[04:03] <ProN00b> is there any cute console calculator so i can just go calc 1+2 and it goes 3
[04:04] <apokryphos> ProN00b: katapult has a calculator plugin -- it's very nice, I recommend trying it :)
[04:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> ProN00b: depends what you mean by cute. there's a calculator in accesroies
[04:04] <apokryphos> new version can also play songs from amaroK. Quite nice.
[04:04] <Hobbsee> ProN00b: wcalc might be useful...
[04:05] <ProN00b> *_*
[04:05] <ProN00b> i mean console
[04:05] <ProN00b> you know, just console
[04:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> bash should do calculations
[04:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> or python
[04:05] <SUOMI_PERKELE> hey how do u send a private msg? (IRC noob)
[04:05] <ProN00b> Kamping_Kaiser, how ?
[04:05] <Klay|busy> Sunbug: /msg nickname MESSAGE
[04:05] <apokryphos> calcc is a decent CLI calculator; don't think it's in repos though
[04:05] <Klay|busy> SUOMI_PERKELE: **
[04:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> ProN00b: havent ried
[04:06] <sorsis> SUOMI_PERKELE: /msg sorsis vittusaatana
[04:08] <Hexidigital> looking for a XTerm desklet... anyone have any ideas?
[04:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> nope :). what are you talking about?
[04:09] <a4paper> Hi guys and gals. I have a quick question.
[04:09] <Hexidigital> gDesklets... i need a desklet for terminal or xterm
[04:09] <Hexidigital> tell kamping_kaiser about gdesklets
[04:09] <Stormx2> how do I restart sound?
[04:09] <oinkoink> say go ahead, a4paper.  And oink! to all ubuntu friends.
[04:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> prefix it with !
[04:10] <Hexidigital> tell kamping_kaiser about gdesklets
[04:10] <Hexidigital> !tell kamping_kaiser about gdesklets
[04:10] <orbin> a4paper: it'd be quicker if you asked it. :P
[04:10] <Hexidigital> there we go
[04:10] <a4paper> I'm thinking of installing and using Ubuntu - is it possible to install Ubuntu on one hard disk, and keep a windows installation on the other hard disk?
[04:10] <anakin> hi
[04:10] <Stormx2> restarting sound... anyone? my sound is broken at the mo
[04:10] <orbin> a4paper: yes.  it's called dualbooting
[04:10] <a4paper> Ah, good
[04:10] <a4paper> Is it hard to setup, or easy?
[04:11] <anakin> hi
[04:11] <orbin> !dualboot
[04:11] <ubotu> for wintel https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo :for the Mac https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[04:11] <a4paper> thanks
[04:11] <a4paper> I'm downloading the LiveCD now - if I like it I'll probably install it properly
[04:11] <orbin> a4paper: relatively easy.  just come back in here if you wnat a walkthrough or have problems
[04:12] <a4paper> Ok, cool
[04:12] <oinkoink> I dual boot, but on one hard disk with an ubuntu and windows partition (windows for my girlfriend and for games)
[04:12] <Stormx2> Please.... how do I restart sound?
[04:12] <a4paper> Thanks for answering my questions
[04:12] <oinkoink> I use the other disk to back up.
[04:13] <a4paper> Both muy disks are pretty small capacity wise
[04:13] <a4paper> *my
[04:13] <orbin> a4paper: no worries. good luck
[04:13] <a4paper> Thanks
[04:13] <a4paper> See you later then
[04:13] <oinkoink> say have fun!
[04:13] <Stormx2> Hello? Is there a command which allows me to restart sound without rebooting?
[04:13] <mikodelacruz> I have easyubuntu before
[04:13] <mikodelacruz> how can i rerun it
[04:15] <wvelez> Hi...does anyone know how to go into single-user mode at startup? Im running breezy...thx
[04:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> wvelez: when grub counts down to booting (5 seconds) hit escape
[04:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> then select resue mode
[04:16] <wvelez> thx...ill give it a shot...
[04:16] <Stormx2> Fuck sake! Accck! I'll just reboot. Nevermind.
[04:17] <orbin> McLeod: seen the restrictedformats wiki page yet?
[04:18] <Smerity> anyone have strong opinions on the klik packaging system in Ubuntu? Considering it for some of the newer packages not available in Ubuntu repos ...
[04:18] <paulproteus> McLeod: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for mp3 and ubuntu
[04:18] <tonyyarusso> mikodelacruz: Do you know where the script is?  (If not, try 'locate easyubuntu.py')
[04:19] <falke> hey there
[04:19] <falke> is there an official #ubuntu gaming channel ?
[04:20] <mikodelacruz> it is now in the desktop inside easyubuntu folder tony
[04:20] <tonyyarusso> Smerity: a) Don't really know much about it, care to explain?  b) If you're looking to host extra packages, you probably want to talk to people like Seveas, who do that sort of thing.  He even has a repository management tool of some sort (called Falcon).
[04:20] <Smerity> Stormx2, on ur previous question, you can restart your sound afaik,process depends on what you use (OSS, ALSA etc)
[04:20] <Stormx2> Smerity: ALSA I think
[04:20] <Stormx2> Smerity: its fixed now with a reboot
[04:20] <Smerity> tonyyarusso, sure thing, thanks
[04:20] <Smerity> Stormx2, oh well, whatever way works ^_^
[04:20] <tonyyarusso> falke: Not to my knowledge anyway, they're usually organized by locale, also, there's -offtopic for random ramblings.
[04:21] <orbin> Smerity: klik?  so it's not a deb anymore?
[04:21] <void^> they should make a gaming channel for all the disturbing wine/cedega talk
[04:21] <Stormx2> void^: #winehq
[04:22] <takedown> !easyubuntu
[04:22] <ubotu> easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu
[04:22] <void^> Stormx2: tell that to all the people who come in here asking how to make their $randomwindowsgame work
[04:22] <Smerity> orbin, don't know what you mean by deb. Was just looking around at dfferent packaging styles, this one looks interesting (software is mounted as images from a single file, and the files are catered to ur distro etc)
[04:23] <Stormx2> void^: Well they should check appdb.winehq.org
[04:23] <Stormx2> !games
[04:23] <ubotu> somebody said games was http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5153 or http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Loki_Installers_for_Linux_Gamers  News http://www.linux-gamers.net/
[04:23] <Stormx2> !gaming
[04:23] <ubotu> Stormx2: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:23] <tonyyarusso> Are we still running into exploit idiots?  I noticed Ubugtu is opped again.
[04:23] <Hobbsee> tonyyarusso: there are always idiots, yes
[04:23] <void^> Stormx2: people rarely do what they should
[04:23] <Stormx2> What is Ubugtu
[04:23] <Stormx2> ?
[04:24] <tonyyarusso> Hobbsee: Sad.  Things calmed down for a little while there.
[04:24] <Hobbsee> Stormx2: a bot, like ubotu
[04:24] <Hobbsee> tonyyarusso: yeah, they did.   for a while lol
[04:24] <tonyyarusso> Stormx2: Helpful for, among other things, finding out about bugs that have been filed, like bug 1 ;)
[04:25] <Stormx2> Ah cool
[04:25] <Stormx2> !bug1
[04:25] <ubotu> Stormx2: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:25] <mikodelacruz> what does this mean
[04:25] <mikodelacruz> You must run... root user
[04:25] <orbin> Stormx2: /msg the bot please
[04:25] <mikodelacruz> How do i run it as root user
[04:25] <orbin> mikodelacruz: what are youd doing?
[04:25] <Stormx2> mikodelacruz: Using sudo
[04:25] <Stormx2> !root
[04:25] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[04:25] <apokryphos> bug #1
[04:26] <rangguo> type: sudo -i
[04:26] <apokryphos> hm
[04:26] <mikodelacruz> sudo python easyubuntu.py ?
[04:26] <Stormx2> mikodelacruz: I guess.
[04:26] <tonyyarusso> apokryphos: Answers in -offtopic and /msg though.
[04:26] <mikodelacruz> no such file or directory
[04:27] <apokryphos> ok, must not be set to respond in here
[04:27] <mikodelacruz> i am starting to hate the complexity of linux, this is not for me
[04:27] <mikodelacruz> stupid me for trying something that is more than i could understand
[04:27] <Stormx2> mikodelacruz: so use cd to get the the directory easyubuntu.py is in?
[04:27] <tonyyarusso> apokryphos: I suppose that might be a lot of responses, so that makes sense.
[04:28] <Stormx2> mikodelacruz: You get used to it, don't worry
[04:28] <Stormx2> hold on
[04:28] <Stormx2> !easyubuntu
[04:28] <stjepan> hi
[04:28] <ubotu> easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu
[04:28] <stjepan> can I install ubuntu from knoppix or from a working gentoo system?
[04:28] <orbin> mikodelacruz: that error probably means you're not in the right dir
[04:28] <apokryphos> tonyyarusso: perhaps, but really I don't see many references of the form bug #somenumber in here much
[04:28] <stjepan> I can't boot the ubunut cd
[04:28] <mikodelacruz> but can i change directory
[04:28] <sorsis> stjepan: whats the problem with booting?
[04:28] <mikodelacruz> my prompt looks like this mikodelacruz@ubuntuMikoDelaCruz:
[04:29] <Stormx2> mikodelacruz: Yes. use "cd directorynamehere"
[04:29] <tonyyarusso> apokryphos: Now I'm curious and will be watching for that!
[04:29] <_jason> mikodelacruz: you have to 'cd /to/the/directory'
[04:29] <apokryphos> =)
[04:29] <Stormx2> mikodelacruz: http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/get.html Which one did you get, top or bottom?
[04:29] <mikodelacruz> my easy ubuntu is in the desktop
[04:29] <orbin> mikodelacruz: er, sure you can.  where did you save the .py file?
[04:29] <orbin> mikodelacruz: so type: cd Desktop
[04:29] <_jason> mikodelacruz: cd ~/Desktop
[04:29] <Stormx2> mikodelacruz: All the install instructions are on that page o.O
[04:29] <stjepan> sorsis: I just can't boot it
[04:30] <stjepan> it refuses to boot it
[04:30] <stjepan> don't know why
[04:30] <stjepan> md5sum is ok
[04:30] <Stormx2> stjepan: Any errors?
[04:30] <rangguo> does it says uncompile linux kernel ???
[04:30] <stjepan> Stormx2: no errors :(
[04:30] <rangguo> uncompiling*
[04:30] <stjepan> I can boot knoppix well
[04:30] <Stormx2> stjepan: Does it *try*?
[04:30] <Stormx2> Wierd!
[04:30] <stjepan> Stormx2: yes it tries to boot it, I think so
[04:31] <Stormx2> stjepan: All I can say is try burning again, at fairly slow speed (4x or less).
[04:31] <mephis1987_> hello
[04:31] <stjepan> Stormx2: I burned it at 24x speed
[04:31] <Stormx2> stjepan: That may be why then
[04:31] <rangguo> stjepan, can you get to the boot: prompt? or is it didnt load anything ?
[04:31] <stjepan> rangguo: it doesn't load anything
[04:31] <mephis1987_> in apache , how can i type localhost and it redirects me to /home/user/public_html ?
[04:31] <waylandbill> can someone recommend a backup package that can do samba shares and can back up to DVD RW?
[04:32] <stjepan> Stormx2: do you really think I should burn it at <= 4x? I burned it several times at 24x
[04:32] <rangguo> stjepan, oh thats weird, your boot config is set to boot to CD of course?
[04:32] <stjepan> Stormx2: and md5sum is OK
[04:32] <Stormx2> stjepan: Well, you are more likely to get "bad burns" at higher speeds
[04:32] <Stormx2> stjepan: MD5 of the file or the cd?
[04:32] <stjepan> you really think I should burn at <= 4x?
[04:32] <rangguo> agreed with Stormx2
[04:32] <stjepan> Stormx2: both
[04:33] <stjepan> I mounted Ubuntu CD
[04:33] <Stormx2> stjepan: And you compared with the reference online, yeah?
[04:33] <stjepan> and I did: md5sum -c /mnt/cdrom/md5sum.txt and everythin is OK
[04:33] <stjepan> md5sum is o
[04:33] <stjepan> ok
[04:33] <arrick> stjepan, you need to burn as slow as you can to create a long lasting cd
[04:33] <stjepan> I just haven't tried "
[04:33] <stjepan> ops
[04:33] <stjepan> "md5sum /dev/cdrom"
[04:33] <ESPOiG> neone know of a good program for like retail... eg a pub like pricing, stock keepin etc etc
[04:34] <arrick> !accounting
[04:34] <ubotu> arrick: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:34] <Stormx2> !money
[04:34] <ubotu> Stormx2: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:34] <Stormx2> Nope :P
[04:34] <mephis1987_> in apache , how can i type localhost and it redirects me to /home/user/public_html instead of /var/www?
[04:34] <stjepan> arrick: burning is bad, even if md5sum says everything OK?
[04:34] <arrick> !database
[04:34] <ubotu> arrick: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:35] <orbin> why is burning at slow-speed recommended so mcuh.  surely burners are capable enough to write properly at relatively higher speeds.. pure data discs seem to work fine, why would bootable ones be any different?
[04:35] <arrick> stjepan, you can burn and have a good copy at faster speed, but if you burn slower it will last longer, cause the laser burns it deeper
[04:35] <stjepan> if md5sum says "OK", does it mean it is burned OK?
[04:35] <orbin> arrick: /msg the bot please
[04:35] <tonyyarusso> ESPOiG: You might try searching the descriptions on packages.ubuntu.com
[04:35] <stjepan> arrick: ok, I'll try burning it again
[04:36] <Yokalosh> can easyubuntu be used to uninstall the features it installs...?
[04:36] <arrick> orbin, I wll, and burning slower allows for a deeper burn into the disc
[04:36] <stjepan> arrick: but can I boot ubuntu in Knoppix?
[04:36] <arrick> I dont know about that, I just know about burning
[04:36] <stjepan> ok tnx
[04:36] <tonyyarusso> Now that there is a good question Yokalosh - no idea.  The folks in #easyubuntu may know the answer.
[04:36] <arrick> np :^)
[04:37] <orbin> arrick: ah, so that's the reason.
[04:37] <arrick> yep
[04:37] <Yokalosh> tonyyarusso: thnx :)
[04:37] <arrick> orbin, you ever have a cd that goes bad, music, data, etc, and its not from scratches, then you know it was burned fast
[04:38] <orbin> arrick: no, not really...that's why i asked the question :)
[04:38] <orbin> guess i've been lucky though
[04:38] <tonyyarusso> arrick: When you say slow, how slow are you recommending?  I think I usually do 4x.
[04:38] <arrick> I was letting you know, that was a statement, not a question, hehe
[04:39] <arrick> 1-4x is what i recommend, most burners wont go slower that 4x though
[04:39] <zomak> my burner wont even burn faster than 2x :P
[04:40] <arrick> haha, thats an old burner
[04:40] <apokryphos> faster burners are very cheap now
[04:40] <zomak> arrick: but working one ;)
[04:40] <arrick> hey how do I do a msg like apokryphos just did?
[04:40] <zomak> apokryphos: aye, i have 16x DVD-+RW drive in USB2 so.. but i use that old Plextor as my internal CDROM-drive
[04:40] <Hobbsee> arrick: use /me blah blah blah
[04:40] <arrick> oh ok
[04:41] <pjv> i would like to try out subversion, but i have a 56k dialup and it cuts out every 3-4hours, does subversion support continuing?
[04:42] <MisterN> pjv: you just need version control? i'm using monotone, which is distributed an thus allows you to continue working offline
[04:42] <_Pulgoki> has anybody thats using nessus ever had trouble logging in the first time with an ssl error?
[04:42] <zomak> argh.. maybe i go back to netbsd.. this ubuntu just isnt my thing :S
[04:42] <arrick> zomak, ubuntu is the bomb, it rocks man
[04:42] <tonyyarusso> arrick: Aaah.  Kinda wondered if maybe you just sat there burning stuff and testing them for kicks.
[04:42] <_Pulgoki> zomak: whats the matter? is it too easy for you?
[04:43] <plantperson> e-sin
[04:43] <arrick> not me
[04:43] <plantperson> I got QuickTime to work with Wine
[04:43] <zomak> _Pulgoki: only linux i've get used to is gentoo.
[04:43] <pjv> MisterN: it's just i'm worried that if i have svn running and the internet cuts out, which then might corrupt some files
[04:43] <zomak> _Pulgoki: but i think the matter is within my head :)
[04:43] <_Pulgoki> zomak: or is it the 20 linux kernal exploits that are bothering you .. :P
[04:44] <pjv> it happened before with cvs, i'm hoping svn is a lot better
[04:44] <zomak> _Pulgoki: not really, im using vanilla kernel
[04:44] <arrick> Dr_Willis, you think to much :-Ohahahahaa
[04:44] <pjv> lol
[04:44] <_Pulgoki> zomak: i came to ubuntu from freebsd
[04:44] <_Pulgoki> i like different things about each
[04:44] <Dr_Willis> arrick,  yea.. "real work!"  - Bah! -  lets twiddle with themes and  stuff all day!
[04:44] <pjv> freebsd is good, as a server though
[04:45] <zomak> _Pulgoki: yeah, but im just thinking here why to use ubuntu if you have debian.. but but.. thats just my opinion
[04:45] <arrick> haha
[04:45] <dc2447> Could anyone help me work out why my dapper kubuntu install won't recognise my usb wireless adapter - a Dlink dwl-g122 with a  rt 2500 chipset?  Any assistance in getting the kernel to recognise the device would be great.
[04:45] <zomak> dc2447: dlinks wlancards support in linux is crab
[04:46] <dc2447> Other people seem to have native support in dapper
[04:46] <Stormx2> Guys, I'm possibly going to use a profiles system, whereby if you are on your profile, and click a field (e.g. hobbies) it will change it using JS to an input. When that input is blurred or an ok button is hit, it'll change the value via AJAX. The problem is, how secure is this? Basicly it will just be a GET command like editProfile?field=hoobies&value=whatever, which i suppose someone on another site could misuse by redirecting peo
[04:46] <Stormx2> ple there. How could I secure this?
[04:46] <_Pulgoki> zomak: i think using what ever your comfortablewith should be plenty fine
[04:46] <Stormx2> Woops wrong channel
[04:46] <zomak> _Pulgoki: yes
[04:46] <zomak> dc2447: ok, then i dont know :)
[04:46] <_Pulgoki> zomak: i thought about trying gentoo when i started using ubuntu. Ive only used slackware linux and freebsd
[04:46] <plantperson> e-sin: are you here?
[04:47] <dc2447> anyone any ideas why the kernel doesn't recognise the device?  I'll worry about drivers later
[04:47] <zomak> _Pulgoki: slackware wasnt good for me, i didnt like it. too handicapped
[04:47] <_Pulgoki> yes
[04:47] <_Pulgoki> its a bit of a pain
[04:47] <_Pulgoki> i used it about 6 years ago
[04:47] <orbin> is slackware deb based?
[04:47] <zomak> no
[04:47] <arrick> Dr_Willis, why do I come in here everyday and find all new names in here? is it just me? or is it because so many new people are trying something new and need help?
[04:47] <zomak> _Pulgoki: aye. I have used Debian in my server for almost 8 years now
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[04:48] <_Pulgoki> zomak: im only on about two months for ubuntu. Its very simple and gives you a chance to get used to the system at your leisure
[04:48] <arrick> Hey someone needs to ban the spammer Firefox_8
[04:48] <zomak> _Pulgoki: aye, and maybe my long expirience with linux is the reason why i dont feel comfortable with ubuntu
[04:48] <Dr_Willis> arrick,  we are so good at helping the newbies.. no one else needs help seting upo the ATI cards, or mp3/dvd/nvidia stuff.. and everyone is now reading the Faq. so they know theres no Root password... ( *yea right*)
[04:49] <zomak> its too.. ..made for newbies :)
[04:49] <arrick> hahah I thought that was it
[04:49] <zomak> although its way better than mandriva or suse
[04:49] <_Pulgoki> zomak: could be. I had a hard time with ubuntu at first coming from freebsd. You feel like everything is already done for you after coming from a system that you have to start with nothing and build it up
[04:49] <zomak> ahh.. and that sudo thing also.. its something i cant live with:D
[04:49] <Dr_Willis> Yea - it sucks when ya dont have to spend 10+ hrs twiddling with stuff.
[04:49] <Hobbsee> arrick: right...that should have stopped it...
[04:50] <Dr_Willis> sudo thing is trivial. and easially changed.
[04:50] <Dr_Willis> personally i dont see why they bother with it.
[04:50] <zomak> Dr_Willis: yes, but every program is configured to use sudo in ubuntu
[04:50] <_Pulgoki> i just wish freebsd was a little more user friendly for a desktop
[04:50] <arrick> Dr_Willis, well, I have been taught the basics, so now I have read about all of the ubuntu manuals, and when i can't find what I need that is when I ask. I hate askign more than once, but what the hey
[04:50] <zomak> it just isnt my thing :)
[04:50] <Dr_Willis> zomak,  havent noticed. I set the root password. and cant tell any differance.
[04:50] <zomak> Dr_Willis: mmm-m
[04:51] <zomak> but. 'll got to  go to organize our little lan party. talk to you guys later :)
[04:51] <Dr_Willis> I do recall that webmin was a little confused once about it. but not sire what the cause of that was
[04:51] <gnomefreak> _Pulgoki: install a desktop for it bsd is mainly a server setup
[04:51] <Dr_Willis> arrick,  36 :P
[04:51] <arrick> haha
[04:51] <arrick> im 30
[04:51] <Dr_Willis> i got a Timex Sinclare in the basement.
[04:51] <zomak> 19 \o/
[04:51] <Dr_Willis> :P
[04:51] <Dr_Willis> and several C64's
[04:52] <Dr_Willis> I got PC's older then zomak
[04:52] <zomak> Dr_Willis: me too ;)
[04:52] <gnomefreak> ty zomak now i dont feel so young lol
[04:52] <arrick> so do I
[04:52] <zomak> gnomefreak: :)
[04:52] <arrick> thats what my server is
[04:52] <arrick> morning gnomefreak
[04:52] <Dr_Willis> You got a C64 server? :P
[04:52] <_Pulgoki> gnomefreak: i ran xfce and gnome in freebsd but too many things were buggy or were very difficult to get working properly. I agree totaly about the server
[04:52] <zomak> Dr_Willis: yes, but to be honest, i have never had windows as my primary OS :D
[04:52] <gnomefreak> morning arrick
[04:52] <zomak> and im proud of it!
[04:52] <arrick> yep
[04:52] <arrick> but not on the network
[04:52] <arrick> its on my wifes network
[04:52] <Dr_Willis> a Non Networked server? :P
[04:53] <apokryphos> haven't run windoze on my computer for.... half a year nearly? Not having it installed helps ;-)
[04:53] <Dr_Willis> a "MULE" server.
[04:53] <patrick52222> i need a torrent client like bitcomet for linux
[04:53] <zomak> apokryphos: hehe, i havent had it since windows 95 :)=
[04:53] <Dr_Willis> I wonder if Wine/Cedega can run this PSP media tool.
[04:53] <zomak> patrick52222: azureus is finr
[04:53] <zomak> fine*
[04:53] <arrick> I didnt want my wife on my net, she invites to many hackers by signing up for everythin
[04:53] <Dr_Willis> theres dozens of torrent clients out.
[04:53] <apokryphos> heh
[04:54] <zomak> who has eaten all my CD-R:s ?
[04:54] <arrick> apokryphos, I am on xp right now
[04:54] <apokryphos> arrick: curses!
[04:54] <zomak> arrick: shame on you!
[04:54] <IdleOne> Blasphemy!
[04:54] <arrick> morning IdleOne you get all packed?
[04:54] <IdleOne> good morning
[04:54] <arrick> Dualboot guys
[04:54] <IdleOne> almost done
[04:55] <zomak> arrick: and your ip address was ;) *searching hacking tools*
[04:55] <arrick> some programs I have to have for my schooling
[04:55] <apokryphos> bah, dualboot is for mortals
[04:55] <zomak> only true god can use linux? :P
[04:56] <Hobbsee> apokryphos: but what happens with tripple boots?
[04:56] <IdleOne> and on the 7th day he created Torval
[04:56] <arrick> zomak, you wont get through my network no matter what you try
[04:56] <patrick52222> where do i get Azureus from for ubuntu
[04:56] <Hobbsee> !+azureus
[04:56] <ubotu> I heard azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[04:56] <arrick> I'll even help you out
[04:56] <IdleOne> !azureus
[04:56] <ubotu> azureus is probably a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[04:56] <Hobbsee> hehe
[04:57] <apokryphos> as I mean to maintain that I am immortal with my dualboots :P
[04:57] <|lostbyte|> lolz
[04:57] <apokryphos> kubuntu+suse, woot
[04:57] <IdleOne> Suse has an awkward way of adding repos . least to me it was awkward
[04:57] <|lostbyte|> why will one need two os ..
[04:57] <apokryphos> ;-)
[04:58] <|lostbyte|> that too linux os's
[04:58] <apokryphos> IdleOne: not really. installation_sources -a URL
[04:58] <apokryphos> or GUI ways bleh
[04:59] <IdleOne> apokryphos, I just couldnt seem to get it . ubuntu's system just came more natural to me
[04:59] <apokryphos> IdleOne: Ubuntu lists all sources in one file though which is quite nice
[04:59] <mephis1987_> hello , how i restart apache and mysql service in ubuntu ?
[04:59] <apokryphos> though it's not hard to generate a list of all sources on other distros (including suse), too
[04:59] <apokryphos> mephis1987_: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[04:59] <apokryphos> similar for mysql
[05:00] <mephis1987_> apokryphos,  thanks
[05:00] <nono> lwolf
[05:00] <nono> re
[05:00] <martyn_> what software do i use to bun mp3 to normail music cds
[05:00] <apokryphos> k3b
[05:00] <IdleOne> gnomebaker
[05:00] <apokryphos> you will need to install k3b-mp3 as well
[05:01] <me2win> mephis1987_: mysqladmin -u root shutdown
[05:01] <tonyyarusso> How to make 'apt-get update' backup what I have before running and reinstate the backups if a repo fails?  I want to stop being confused by apt- things not working after the update cron job runs in the morning.
[05:01] <me2win> mephis1987_: you have to shutdown then start up i believe
[05:01] <orbin> martyn_: serpentine's already installed
[05:01] <apokryphos> tonyyarusso: well, it can't really use what it has before because the list from before will have packages that'll give you 404s
[05:02] <tonyyarusso> apokryphos: Only for some, most would still work, especially for a stable release, right?
[05:02] <mephis1987_> me2win, do i need to use -p for password ?
[05:02] <apokryphos> tonyyarusso: sure, but why then would you ever want to go to an old apt-get update?
[05:02] <IdleOne> 52 upgrades
[05:03] <me2win> mephis1987_: if you have set a pw, then yes i believe so
[05:03] <me2win> mephis1987_: let me check
[05:03] <me2win> mephis1987_: yeah you do
[05:03] <tonyyarusso> apokryphos: Well it's good to be up to date, it's just that it's better to have packages that are two days old than not be able to use apt at all.
[05:03] <apokryphos> tonyyarusso: old packages aren't kept on the server
[05:04] <apokryphos> so an old apt-get update won't be able to "get" them
[05:04] <tonyyarusso> apokryphos: All right, can I make it rerun an hour later if things fail then?
[05:04] <IdleOne> but a mirror that syncs every 2 days is a good idea tonyyarusso
[05:04] <apokryphos> tonyyarusso: sure, you can update as many times as you like
[05:04] <apokryphos> changes will only go through when the devs put them up for syncing, though
[05:05] <tonyyarusso> apokryphos: But have it not bother if it was okay before.
[05:05] <apokryphos> yes
[05:06] <trainer> How can I get the latest version of firefox? Synaptic still only shows me 1.0.7, which doesn't work with some of my extensions. WIll I just have to install it manually?
[05:06] <IdleOne> !ff1.5
[05:06] <IdleOne> !ff1.5
[05:06] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[05:07] <IdleOne> sorry lag
[05:07] <trainer> cool, thanks very much
[05:07] <IdleOne> np
[05:08] <IdleOne> apokryphos, my ubuntu box is going to be down for a month or so maybe more...will it be safe when I get it back online to just do a dist-upgrade ?
[05:09] <IdleOne> running Dapper
[05:09] <stjepan> hi
[05:09] <stjepan> I can't boot ubuntu
[05:09] <IdleOne> hey
[05:09] <stjepan> it is ubuntu cd
[05:09] <apokryphos> IdleOne: yes
[05:09] <stjepan> it's kubuntu dapper flight 6 i386
[05:09] <apokryphos> IdleOne: with sudo apt-get update first of course
[05:09] <stjepan> md5sum of iso is ok
[05:09] <stjepan> md5sum of cd is ok
[05:09] <stjepan> it just refuses to boot
[05:09] <IdleOne> apokryphos, ok cool
[05:09] <tonyyarusso> stjepan: a) Have you tried a different CD?, b) Is your boot priority set to allow you to do that?
[05:09] <stjepan> burned at 1x
[05:10] <mephis1987_> !md5sum
[05:10] <ubotu> md5sum is probably to verify your ISO, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VerifyIsoHowto for Windows see http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[05:10] <stjepan> tonyyarusso: a) yes, b) yes
[05:10] <IdleOne> stjepan, you can try burning at a lower rate like 3x/4x
[05:10] <tonyyarusso> stjepan: Can you boot from other bootable CDs besides Ubuntu?
[05:10] <tonyyarusso> IdleOne: "11:09 < stjepan> burned at 1x"
[05:11] <IdleOne> oops
[05:11] <IdleOne> ok
[05:11] <stjepan> tonyyarusso: yes
[05:11] <ikppc> :O
[05:11] <IdleOne> :1
[05:12] <tonyyarusso> stjepan: Is the Flight 6 disk the first one you've tried on your box, or did Breezy, Flight #, etc work before?
[05:12] <BrianG> how can i turn off the audio preview when i mouse over audio files?
[05:12] <Dr_Willis> It just seems ubuntu has more issues with iso files.. :( or perhaps its because soo many people are using it. and comming in here when it dont work.
[05:12] <stjepan> tonyyarusso: Flight 4 and Hoary work
[05:13] <stjepan> any ideas? :(
[05:13] <tonyyarusso> stjepan: All right, I'd say a) File a bug, b) Install from Flight 4, c) run upgrades from there.  That will give you the same result.
[05:13] <stjepan> tonyyarusso: there's a problem
[05:14] <stjepan> I have got dapper flight 4 amd64, but I want i386!
[05:14] <huajinglee> wo shen mo ye bu hui
[05:14] <tonyyarusso> stjepan: Aah.  Can you try downloading the Flight 4 i386 and testing it out?
[05:14] <huajinglee> who give my help?
[05:15] <mephis1987_> !mplayer
[05:15] <ubotu> [mplayer]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[05:15] <Aeudian> I use newzbin for my newsgroups on my PC, is there an alternitive for unix?
[05:15] <tonyyarusso> huajinglee: Everyone, just ask.
[05:15] <me2win> Aeudian: binaries or text?
[05:15] <Aeudian> me2win: binaries
[05:15] <me2win> Aeudian: i use klibido
[05:15] <stjepan> tonnyarusso: oh, my adsl bandwidth  :((
[05:16] <me2win> and par2 for parity archives
[05:16] <gnomefreak> flight 4?
[05:16] <Aeudian> me2win: thank you ill give it a shot
[05:16] <tonyyarusso> stjepan: Sorry, you'll get no sympathy from me.  In a few weeks I'll be back home on dialup :(
[05:16] <huajinglee> my god
[05:16] <gnomefreak> that was a few flights ago
[05:16] <huajinglee> my godmy godmy godmy godmy godmy god
[05:16] <tonyyarusso> gnomefreak: 6 won't boot for him.
[05:16] <gnomefreak> ah
[05:16] <me2win> huajinglee: yes?
[05:17] <gnomefreak> huajinglee: can you please stop that
[05:17] <defcon8> Aeudian, there is no such bloody programme as newzbin. what the hell?
[05:17] <huajinglee> my english is poor
[05:17] <martyn_> ho do i install nvida grx drivers
[05:17] <tonyyarusso> !zh
[05:17] <ubotu> For support in Chinese, please try the channel #ubuntu-zh.  (Please update this factoid if you can make it say something like that *in* Chinese.)
[05:17] <gnomefreak> huajinglee: what do you speak?
[05:17] <me2win> defcon8: yes there is :D
[05:17] <defcon8> me2win, there is newsbin
[05:17] <me2win> defcon8: you knew what he meant, idiot
[05:17] <defcon8> stfu, idiot
[05:18] <martyn_> nviida grx driver
[05:18] <_jason> !coc
[05:18] <ubotu> from memory, coc is the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, which we ask all Ubuntu users to follow. You can find the Code of Conduct at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[05:18] <Aeudian> defcon8: im sry thats my search engine its newsbin =P
[05:18] <gnomefreak> no name calling please
[05:18] <stjepan> with gpg signature checking it failed!! what should I do now? redownload?
[05:18] <defcon8> you just said there was newzbin. you didnt say there was newsbin btw
[05:18] <sfar> Hm, is it possible to disable the powerbutton on my computer (so im ony able to shut down the computer from the menu) ?
[05:18] <huajinglee> i think that my computer font is not
[05:18] <stjepan> hi defcon8 :)
[05:18] <defcon8> Aeudian, use nzbget
[05:18] <defcon8> hi stjepan
[05:18] <sfar> (i have a 1 year old son with very long fingers)
[05:18] <stjepan> defcon8: have u tried XGL?
[05:18] <defcon8> stjepan, are you still on some lame wm?
[05:18] <defcon8> no i havent
[05:18] <stjepan> noo :)
[05:18] <stjepan> KDE
[05:18] <defcon8> hahaha
[05:19] <Qiang> hi, anyone can get aget from ubuntu repo ?
[05:19] <huajinglee> i must go bye bye!
[05:19] <Dr_Willis> MatchBox owns all. :P
[05:19] <Dr_Willis> !info aget
[05:19] <ubotu> aget: (Multithreaded HTTP Download Accelerator), section universe/web, is optional. Version: 0.4-6 (breezy), Packaged size: 11 kB, Installed size: 72 kB
[05:19] <stjepan> I got gpg signature check fail... what should I do? redownload? :(
[05:19] <gnomefreak> stjepan: what are you trying to download?
[05:19] <gnomefreak> and is it from an unoffical repo?
[05:20] <stjepan> gnomefreak: I downloaded ubuntu dapper flight 6
[05:20] <stjepan> md5sum checking is ok
[05:20] <tonyyarusso> I recently started signing my e-mails (Thunderbird) with my pgp key.  One of my receipients told me the were then unable to reply to my message due to a "missing security certificate".  Why is that, and what do I have to do?
[05:20] <stjepan> but gpg checking failed
[05:20] <stjepan> what to do now? download again?
[05:20] <gnomefreak> yes
[05:20] <Qiang> Dr_Willis:  what repo is that exactly ? universe/web ?
[05:20] <stjepan> gnomefreak: my adsl bandwidth is limited
[05:20] <gnomefreak> tonyyarusso: are you signing it or encrypting it?
[05:20] <Dr_Willis>  section universe
[05:20] <tonyyarusso> gnomefreak: signing
[05:21] <stjepan> gnomefreak: do I haveto download entire iso again???
[05:21] <tonyyarusso> gnomefreak: They could read it just fine, just couldn't click "Reply".
[05:21] <gnomefreak> i havent had that issue yet noone answers my mail anyway lol
[05:21] <_Marek_> hi all
[05:21] <martyn_> ho do i install nvidia grx drivers
[05:21] <Qiang> Dr_Willis:  er.. never mind. i commented out the universe in my repo a while ago :)
[05:21] <gnomefreak> tonyyarusso: send me email at gnomfreak@gmail.com and sign it let me see if i can
[05:21] <IdleOne> !nvidia
[05:21] <ubotu> nvidia is probably at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[05:22] <_Marek_> can anyone suggest what repository to use in order to obtain flash7 and win32 codecs?
[05:22] <tonyyarusso> gnomefreak: Okay.
[05:22] <Dr_Willis> !flash
[05:22] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:22] <gnomefreak> !flash
[05:22] <tonyyarusso> gnomefreak: s/gnom/gnome/ though, or not?
[05:22] <me2win> !w32
[05:22] <ubotu> me2win: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:22] <Dr_Willis> :)
[05:22] <me2win> !w32codecs
[05:22] <ubotu> I heard w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[05:22] <gnomefreak> !w32codecs
[05:22] <gnomefreak> damn
[05:22] <IdleOne> !w32codecs
[05:22] <me2win> lol
[05:22] <me2win> mad rush for !
[05:22] <gnomefreak> lol
[05:22] <_Marek_> heh thanks guys
[05:22] <gnomefreak> gnomefreak
[05:22] <me2win> _Marek_: eager to help
[05:22] <Dr_Willis> some days i think the bot should msg people a !common !things list. :P on join
[05:23] <tonyyarusso> gnomefreak: 'k.
[05:23] <gnomefreak> sorry
[05:23] <_Marek_> me2win, thanks :)
[05:23] <me2win> Dr_Willis: it would be too bothersome to alot of peopel
[05:23] <gnomefreak> brb while your doing that
[05:23] <tonyyarusso> gnomefreak: Ignore the spamblocker message, btw.  I'm on it.
[05:23] <Dr_Willis> me2win,  have the bot keep a list. :P where ya can msg it to not do it.
[05:24] <Dr_Willis> but then again - people have a tedencey to not read what the bot tell them.
[05:24] <IdleOne> Dr_Willis, better to have the bot remember who it sent the !intro to and only have it send 2 times to every nick
[05:24] <Klay|busy> people have a tendency not to read what anyone/thing tells them :s
[05:24] <vincenz> How do I install an rpm
[05:25] <Dr_Willis> IdleOne,  may be better still to just have a web site - we can send EVERYONE to :P
[05:25] <bucketfan99> hello.
[05:25] <Dr_Willis> IdleOne,  oh wait we do. the wiki! :p
[05:25] <me2win> vincenz: convert it to a .deb with sudo alien file.rpm   then install the deniab with sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[05:25] <vincenz> !rpm
[05:25] <ubotu> rpm is, like, the Redhat Package Management file. Very similar to Debians DEB files, but require alien to install. ask me about !alien
[05:25] <IdleOne> Dr_Willis, LIKE A WIKI
[05:25] <mephis1987_> !postfix
[05:25] <ubotu> mephis1987_: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:25] <bucketfan99> anyone know how to edit the background contexst menu ?
[05:25] <vincenz> me2win: thx
[05:25] <bucketfan99> want to add "create terminal" to that list
[05:25] <bucketfan99> or so
[05:25] <Dr_Willis> IdleOne,  but its too much to expect - for people to read. :P
[05:25] <IdleOne> Dr_Willis, I read everything!
[05:26] <Dr_Willis> bucketfan99,  never seen anyone else even ask that, or want to. :P
[05:26] <gnomefreak> bucketfan99: aspt-cache search nautilus and add the nautilus-terminal or something like that
[05:26] <bucketfan99> well - there is a first time for everything
[05:26] <gnomefreak> s/add/install
[05:26] <bucketfan99> gnomefreak i have the item installed
[05:26] <Dr_Willis> bucketfan99,  make it some hot-key is much faster
[05:26] <bucketfan99> i want to add to the background system context
[05:26] <Dr_Willis> then again - i always have a half-dozen terminals open
[05:26] <bucketfan99> i do too. but. i want context menu one as well!
[05:26] <gnomefreak> bucketfan99: the nautilus terminal is docked in the context menu
[05:27] <bucketfan99> gnomefreak i want gnome-terminal
[05:27] <Dr_Willis> Cluttered Menus =  somthing the Gnome GUys work hard to avoide.
[05:27] <bucketfan99> a terminal isn't cluttered
[05:28] <gnomefreak> bucketfan99: i dont think you can do that thats why they have the naultilus term. iirc there is no difference in the terminals its just the name
[05:28] <bucketfan99> Create Folder is annoying :)
[05:28] <bucketfan99> Oh ok
[05:28] <bucketfan99> i'll try it
[05:28] <gnomefreak> bucketfan99: it opens the gnome-term
[05:28] <truz24> how can i show what package belongs to with apt?
[05:28] <gnomefreak> truz24: what do you mean?
[05:28] <truz24> to show /bin/cp belongs to coreutils for instance
[05:29] <bucketfan99> its open already.
[05:29] <bucketfan99> er - installed
[05:29] <Aeos> Hi, I left my computer on all night and when I came back the monitor was in power save mode, and the keyboard and mouse did not respond. So I reset the box and now X server wont start...
[05:29] <simonpca> plop
[05:29] <gnomefreak> bucketfan99: right click desktop and open terminal
[05:29] <Aeos> any ideas on how i can fix it
[05:29] <N2DIY> Hi gang, my live CD doesn't find my serial mouse, ideas?
[05:29] <tonyyarusso> Aeos: By reset, do you mean reboot or something else?
[05:30] <truz24> gnomefreak, for instance, the rpm command to do this is: rpm -qf /bin/cp
[05:30] <Aeos> reboot
[05:30] <orbin> truz24: dpkg -S
[05:30] <Aeos> I couldnt get the computer to respond so I had to rebot
[05:30] <stjepan> can I redownload ubuntu with deltup?
[05:30] <tonyyarusso> Aeos: You have a command line now then?
[05:30] <orbin> truz24: or use packages.ubuntu.com
[05:30] <Aeos> yes
[05:30] <truz24> orbin, that works great, thanks.
[05:30] <tonyyarusso> Aeos: Try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'.
[05:31] <wasona> ola
[05:31] <gnomefreak> the name of context menu term is nautilus-open-terminal
[05:31] <bucketfan99> hrm
[05:31] <bucketfan99> that isn't on my machine
[05:31] <sovieticool> how i uninstall gnomebaker ?
[05:31] <bucketfan99> i checked the apt-cache
[05:31] <bucketfan99> and there is nothing called that either :/
[05:32] <tonyyarusso> sovieticool: sudo apt-get remove gnomebaker
[05:32] <Mersault> has anyone put together a package for transcode and associated tools that has a functional yuvdenoise for breezy? the package from the ubuntu repo's is a little crippled.
[05:32] <bucketfan99> gnomefreak can you check the actual name of deb ? :)
[05:33] <sovieticool> thanx tonyyarusso
[05:33] <gnomefreak> !info nautilus-open-terminal
[05:33] <ubotu> nautilus-open-terminal: (open terminal in any folder from Nautilus), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.4-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 15 kB, Installed size: 372 kB
[05:33] <tanuki_> can someone tell me the command to run the xserver reconfiguration program? i forget
[05:33] <gnomefreak> bucketfan99: you need to enable universe
[05:33] <me2win> !xorg
[05:33] <ubotu> hmm... xorg is To reconfigure your X server, type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" in a terminal, or check here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto or here http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-83973.html
[05:33] <me2win> tanuki_: ^^
[05:33] <bucketfan99> universe eh
[05:33] <gnomefreak> !universe
[05:33] <bucketfan99> do you have a link to what that is.
[05:33] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[05:34] <gnomefreak> ^^^
[05:34] <bucketfan99> perfect
[05:34] <bucketfan99> thanks dude.
[05:34] <gnomefreak> yw
[05:34] <[cro] smiley> HELP I'm trying to build Anjuta gnomemm project but I'm missing bonobomm/widgets/wrap_init.h. What do I do?
[05:35] <[cro] smiley> 
[05:35] <bucketfan99> ah. they are in there i just had to enable em
[05:36] <gnomefreak> buckkyep
[05:36] <gnomefreak> yep even
[05:36] <orbin> [cro] smiley: did you install anjuta from the repos?
[05:36] <[cro] smiley> orbin, yes
[05:36] <gnomefreak> [cro] smiley: sudo apt-get build-dep anjuta
[05:37] <gnomefreak> [cro] smiley: why are you compiling anjuta is you got it from repos?
[05:37] <bigtoe> http://autos.msn.com/as/minishow/article.aspx?contentID=4023923&s=NewYork2006
[05:37] <bigtoe> sorry
[05:37] <[cro] smiley> gnomefreak, i'm not compiling it
[05:37] <bigtoe> wrong window
[05:37] <[cro] smiley> gnomefreak, i'm trying to compile project
[05:37] <orbin> gnomefreak: i think he's trying to compile his project *in* anjuta
[05:37] <orbin> anjuta is a programming ide
[05:37] <gnomefreak> oh he said he was building anjuta gnome
[05:38] <gnomefreak> ty i know what anjuta is
[05:38] <gnomefreak> [cro] smiley: try build-essential
[05:38] <[cro] smiley> gnomefreak, I said 'gnom project'
[05:38] <orbin> gnomefreak: sweet.  you can take over then.  i've got no idea
[05:39] <srid> is anyone here using gtk2 version of emacs-cvs with antialiased fonts in Ubuntu?
[05:40] <martyn_> can compiz be installed on i386
[05:40] <gnomefreak> martyn_: yes but not on breezy
[05:40] <bucketfan99> so gnomefreak i got that installed :)
[05:40] <gnomefreak> bucketfan99: ok good
[05:40] <Aeos> tonyyarusso: I dont know if it finished but I got to the part where you state color depth and it kicked me to command line
[05:40] <bucketfan99> but. it doesn't seem to have changed much.
[05:40] <martyn_> ahhh kool so am i better upgrading up to drakr thrn
[05:40] <martyn_> then
[05:40] <gnomefreak> bucketfan99: the terminal is now in your context menu
[05:41] <martyn_> gnomefreak: am i better to upgreade to drapper
[05:41] <gnomefreak> martyn_: not yet i wouldnt we are having a bunch of issues with things atm
[05:41] <gnomefreak> dapper adn read above please
[05:41] <tonyyarusso> Aeos: Well, one way to find out.  Try to startx.
[05:41] <martyn_> gnomefreak: ok kool just love the look of the OSX style menues is there any outher program that does this
[05:42] <gnomefreak> martyn_: not sure off  the top of my head
[05:42] <martyn_> gnomefreak_: thx
[05:42] <gnomefreak> yw
[05:42] <me2win> martyn_: you can use compix on KDE and breezy
[05:42] <bucketfan99> gnomefreak - negative
[05:42] <Oboro> !dapper
[05:42] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[05:43] <bucketfan99> Oh.
[05:43] <bucketfan99> that is the application context menu.
[05:43] <tonyyarusso> gnomefreak: Do we have any kind of page somewhere that says "Development release brokenness is 7/10 today.  Upgrade not recommended.", kind of like a Smokey Bear forest fire risk level?
[05:43] <bucketfan99> i want it on the right-click-on-desktop-context-menu
[05:43] <gnomefreak> bucketfan99: hence the name context menu that is wher eit is
[05:43] <gnomefreak> bucketfan99: you install nautilus-open-terminal
[05:44] <bucketfan99> gnomefreak !!!
[05:44] <bucketfan99> k let me say that again :)
[05:44] <bucketfan99> now i have a terminal appear under the "File" menu of every application
[05:44] <bucketfan99> what i want.
[05:44] <zomak> ahh.. sauna, what a sweet place
[05:44] <bucketfan99> is when i right-click the desktop
[05:44] <gnomefreak> bucketfan99: ok thats not context menu
[05:44] <bucketfan99> to have "Open Terminal" as an option.
[05:44] <bucketfan99> oh. shit. sorry.
[05:44] <zomak> on
[05:44] <bucketfan99> what is it ? :)
[05:44] <gnomefreak> context menu you right click desktop and there is a menu in there for terminal
[05:45] <bucketfan99> no there is no terminal on my right-click-desktop.
[05:45] <gnomefreak> than you didnt install nautilus-open-terminal or you may have to restart X
[05:45] <bucketfan99> we have communication problems :p
[05:45] <_jason> bucketfan99: killall nautilus
[05:45] <bucketfan99> let me restart X. sec.
[05:45] <tonyyarusso> gnomefreak: That e-mail was sent, btw.
[05:46] <gnomefreak> ty tonyyarusso ill look
[05:46] <johnny3d> after installing the kubuntu-desktop how do I get the KDE theme?
[05:46] <Aeos> tonyyarusso: fatal error
[05:46] <tonyyarusso> Aeos: Uh oh.  Any more information?
[05:46] <IdleOne> johnny3d, loog out and back in clicking on session at the login screen and chosing kde
[05:46] <IdleOne> s/loog/log
[05:46] <Hexidigital> how do i enable the navigation bar in nautilus
[05:46] <johnny3d> ok
[05:47] <johnny3d> thankyou
[05:47] <bucketfan99> Yay. restarting X got it to add now
[05:47] <bucketfan99> thanks gnomefreak  :)
[05:47] <orbin> Hexidigital: ctrl+L
[05:47] <bucketfan99> Now - how do i customize that mneu ? :)
[05:47] <Hexidigital> thanks orbin
[05:47] <Aeos> fatal error 104 (Connection reset by peer on xserver ":0.0" after 0 requests
[05:49] <tonyyarusso> gnomefreak: Worked fine there.  Now I'll have to try it with someone who doesn't have a key of their own.
[05:49] <deflux-> I'm trying to remote login to a remote linux machine from my ubuntu.
[05:49] <deflux-> But the login screen doesn't have a remote system login.
[05:49] <deflux-> Anyone know how to enable this?
[05:49] <gnomefreak> lol i didnt import your key
[05:49] <gnomefreak> tonyyarusso: so it shouldnt make a difference
[05:49] <tonyyarusso> Aeos: Hmm.  Well, you could retry the process, restore your xorg.conf from a backup if you have one, or wait for an X guru to swing by.
[05:50] <tonyyarusso> gnomefreak: Could be my lab demonstrator just has buggy software.  He does run Windows after all ;)
[05:50] <Aeos> darn, this laptop battery should die soon, so I am fubar until I can get my laptop power cord
[05:50] <gnomefreak> tonyyarusso: very well could be
[05:51] <orbin> Aeos: what did you change?
[05:51] <Aeos> I just left my computer running
[05:51] <gnomefreak> brb
[05:51] <Aeos> when I came back to it, it wouldnt wake up
[05:51] <_Marek_> does anyone run the mplayer mozilla plugin without problems?
[05:51] <Aeos> I did disable my screensaver because that would hang my system
[05:51] <me2win> _Marek_: me
[05:51] <Aeos> great 5 mins of battery life...
[05:52] <orbin> Aeos: did it look like it went into suspend?
[05:52] <Aeos> yes
[05:52] <_Marek_> me2win, have you installed it from ftp.netrim.net?
[05:52] <Aeos> the monitor went into powersave mode but wouldnt wake up
[05:52] <orbin> Aeos: do you have an ati card?
[05:52] <Aeos> yes
[05:52] <_Marek_> me2win, eh nerim.net
[05:52] <Aeos> radeon 9000pro
[05:52] <sfar> will "chmod 000 /etc/acpi/powerbtn.sh" disable my  powerbutton?
[05:52] <orbin> oh, so just the monitor, the power light wasn't blinking?
[05:53] <Aeos> not on the box no
[05:53] <Aeos> the monitor light was blinking and it wouldnt wake up
[05:53] <Aeos> crap I am about to lose my last bit of battery
[05:53] <orbin> Aeos: not sure if this is the issue, but some versions of the fglrx driver won't let you resume from suspend
[05:53] <me2win> _Marek_: uhh not sure, i got it from repos
[05:53] <_Marek_> ok let me try  :)
[05:54] <gnomefreak> Aeos: did you try a button on the keyboard or only mouse?
[05:54] <Gerrath> I was looking at the packages for Dapper and it looks like Webmin is no longer there, why is this?  Is there a better interface to do remote management of a server?
[05:54] <Aeos> ye
[05:54] <Aeos> yes
[05:54] <Aeos> both
[05:54] <Aeos> now I cannot start xserver at all
[05:54] <mephis1987_> hello
[05:54] <saskia> try ispconfig instead of webmin
[05:54] <gnomefreak> Aeos: shut it down or reboot can you start X than?
[05:54] <mephis1987_> i installed php5 and mysql but there s problem
[05:54] <Aeos> nope
[05:55] <me2win> mephis1987_: ??
[05:55] <mephis1987_> php5 cant recognize mysql
[05:55] <orbin> Aeos: patebin the log
[05:55] <Aeos> it gives me a blue screen heh
[05:55] <mephis1987_> it says cant load mysql extension
[05:55] <gnomefreak> Aeos: are you on windows (sorry had to ask when you say blue screen) kind of ironic
[05:55] <Gerrath> thanks saskia.  It has been my experiance that if a package is dropped by the distros then there is something better that I'm missing :)
[05:55] <mephis1987_> me2win, any idea ?
[05:55] <saskia> mephis1987_: apt-get install php5-mysql
[05:56] <Aeos> I am on this computer and I just switch my desktop yesterday
[05:56] <zuokanyunqi> i want to install a package ,but get conflict ,now i can nether install it nor remove it ,what shall i do
[05:56] <tanuki_> can someone help me? i am having trouble setting my video mode to 1280x1024, which my monitor and video card both support
[05:56] <me2win> mephis1987_: what saskia said
[05:56] <tanuki_> i am getting some distortion on the screen
[05:56] <gnomefreak> zuokanyunqi: what is the conflict?
[05:56] <WindowsWhore> Just tried the lastest stable live CD. Worked fucking brilliantly. Cheers guys.
[05:56] <bucketfan99> hye where does debian keep the ld.so.conf file ?
[05:56] <Aeos> I am about to lose power, You may see me again one day
[05:56] <zuokanyunqi> once a install a program it will appear
[05:56] <saskia> in /etc
[05:56] <mephis1987_> saskia, yes , i already installed them
[05:56] <saskia> restart apache?
[05:56] <mephis1987_> but they says cant load mysql extension
[05:57] <tanuki_> can someone help me? i am having trouble getting my video mode set correctly
[05:57] <mephis1987_> !mysql
[05:57] <ubotu> Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[05:57] <me2win> mephis1987_: do sudo nano /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini
[05:57] <saskia> take a look at your httpd.conf or something in conf.d
[05:57] <mephis1987_> yes
[05:57] <mephis1987_> me2win, then ?
[05:57] <saskia> which points to the modules
[05:57] <bucketfan99> woa weird. it just didnt' exist.
[05:57] <ProN00b> actually lamp stands for linux apache mysql perl !!!
[05:57] <gnomefreak> zuokanyunqi: need to know what program and what the conflict is please if you can pastebin the full output of apt-get install <program>
[05:57] <me2win> in that file, remove the ; where it says ";extension=mysql.so"
[05:57] <zuokanyunqi> gnomefreak, i do not want to install it now ,how to cancel it
[05:57] <saskia> yes.. like me2win says
[05:57] <gnomefreak> ProN00b: i could have sworn its php
[05:57] <gnomefreak> !lamp
[05:57] <ubotu> Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[05:58] <saskia> remove the comment, then restart apache
[05:58] <Smerity> Having a bit of a blonde moment, what is a python file's suffix... dotpy?
[05:58] <ProN00b> thats wrong
[05:58] <ProN00b> its perl
[05:58] <yipe> YAY windowswhore!
[05:58] <ProN00b> no, Smerity, its py
[05:58] <zuokanyunqi> gnomefreak, i want to install latex-cjk but it is conflict with cjk-latex
[05:58] <gnomefreak> Smerity: yes .py
[05:58] <Smerity> ProN00b, gnomefreak, thanks, meant dotpy ( . py) =)
[05:58] <mephis1987_> me2win, then what should i do ?
[05:58] <zuokanyunqi> gnomefreak, i can not cancle it
[05:58] <me2win> mephis1987_: save it and restart apache
[05:59] <gnomefreak> zuokanyunqi: ctrl+c will kill it if you are doing it in terminal
[05:59] <tanuki_> can someone help me with my display? im having trouble achieving 1280x1024 without distortion
[05:59] <gcbirzan> Can one install Ubuntu from an existing Linux install?
[06:00] <saskia> mephis1987_: make a php file with phpinfo(); in it, then access that file from browser (with http points to your web server)
[06:00] <gnomefreak> ProN00b: http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/onlamp/2001/01/25/lamp.html
[06:00] <zuokanyunqi> gnomefreak, no i can get out from the program but once i run "apt-get install ",it will tell me that latex-cjk will be installed
[06:00] <saskia> tanuki_: hack around the frequencies for your monitor
[06:00] <saskia> tanuki_: in the XF86Config-4 file
[06:00] <gnomefreak> zuokanyunqi: what are you using to install it?
[06:00] <mephis1987_> i have enabled mysql.so
[06:00] <tanuki_> saskia: pardon me?
[06:00] <mephis1987_> and restart
[06:01] <tanuki_> what do you mean hack around
[06:01] <mephis1987_> but it still says so
[06:01] <saskia> tanuki_: change the values to the right one for your monitor
[06:01] <zuokanyunqi> gnomefreak, synaptic
[06:01] <saskia> mephis1987_: i need to see your phpinfo(); output
[06:01] <gnomefreak> zuokanyunqi: in terminal type killall -9 synaptic
[06:01] <me2win> mephis1987_: and you got the php5-mysql packages as well as the libapache-mod-auth-mysql packages?
[06:01] <orbin> tanuki_: define distortion
[06:02] <zuokanyunqi> gnomefreak, once i run synaptic again it displayed a error like cache error
[06:02] <pulver> hi! how do i open .sit files on ubuntu?
[06:03] <mephis1987_> me2win, i installed manually from synaptic
[06:03] <orbin> saskia, tanuki_ : xf86 is obsolete btw.  ubuntu uses xorg.  config file is: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:03] <yipe> what might be possible reasons for not being able to access the tty with ctrl alt f1-f6?
[06:03] <tanuki_> saskia: actually i do not know the ranges for my monitor, and cannot find them anywhere on the net or in the manual, i simply get 75mhz vert max
[06:03] <tanuki_> orbin: distortion.
[06:03] <jareth_> pulver: isn't .sit an macosx archivefile?
[06:03] <me2win> mephis1987_: try again with this guide https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[06:03] <saskia> tanuki_: lower it down
[06:03] <pulver> jareth_, yes
[06:03] <arrick> tanuki_, what kind of monitor is it, and what country are you located in?
[06:03] <saskia> orbin: sorry about that
[06:03] <jareth_> pulver: why bother?
[06:03] <tanuki_> saskia: i usually use sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and it works but for some reason it is not now
[06:04] <orbin> tanuki_: yeah, that made it clearer :-/
[06:04] <tanuki_> arrick: an ic power 19 inch lcd, and im in the united states
[06:04] <arrick> you want to set it to 60hz refrsh rate
[06:04] <saskia> tanuki_: lower down the refresh rate
[06:04] <Hexidigital> does anyone know the command to mount an .iso to a virtual device?
[06:04] <jodanlime> does anybody know if open office can do something like word art? I cant find it
[06:04] <saskia> say 50 or 60
[06:04] <pulver> jareth_, because many visual artists are mac fans and they pack their stuff in .sit files, and want to pimp my ubuntu :)
[06:04] <arrick> tanuki_, ^^ see my last
[06:04] <me2win> Hexidigital: yeah
[06:04] <orbin> tanuki_: what's the exact issue? not the right res.? not the right refresh rate?
[06:04] <tanuki_> arrick: how do i do that?
[06:05] <jareth_> pulver: ask them to use tar.
[06:05] <Hexidigital> me2win, thanks... just wondering if someone knew it
[06:05] <tanuki_> probably teh refresh rate, im not sure if it should be at 60 or 75
[06:05] <gnomefreak> zuokanyunqi: type sudo apt-get install latex-cjk and let me know what it says
[06:05] <mephis1987_> saskia, is this info useful ? dbx support 	enabled
[06:05] <mephis1987_> dbx version 	1.1.0
[06:05] <mephis1987_> supported databases 	MySQL ODBC PostgreSQL Microsoft SQL Server FrontBase Oracle 8 (oci8) Sybase-CT SQLite
[06:05] <gnomefreak> ^^^ in terminal
[06:05] <saskia> when you did a reconfigure, you can choose refresh rate, right?
[06:05] <me2win> Hexidigital: sudo mount /path/to/file.iso /media/iso/ -t iso9660 -o loop
[06:05] <gnomefreak> mephis1987_: please use pastebin for your pasting needs
[06:05] <Hexidigital> me2win, thanks :)
[06:05] <arrick> Someone tell tanuki_ how to set the refresh rate to 60hz in ubuntu please?
[06:05] <tanuki_> saskia: it asks you for a range, not a specific frequency
[06:05] <me2win> Hexidigital: make sure you create the iso dir in media
[06:05] <jareth_> pulver: I don't think it's possible what you want. IMHO
[06:05] <gnomefreak> !fixres
[06:05] <ubotu> Please read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:05] <saskia> mephis1987_: that doesnt help
[06:06] <Hexidigital> me2win: ok
[06:06] <zuokanyunqi> gnomefreak, i locales is zh_cn ,how to let it display english
[06:06] <arrick> tanuki_, you can set it to a freq, just typ eit in twice
[06:06] <saskia> tanuki_: actually a lot of examples there in the internet
[06:06] <tanuki_> arrick: what do you mean?
[06:06] <saskia> try on
[06:06] <saskia> try one
[06:06] <jodanlime> is there anything like word art in open office?
[06:06] <mephis1987_> saskia, what do u need ?
[06:06] <arrick> type in the 60hz twice to set it to the 60 hz range
[06:06] <mephis1987_> how can i send the page to u ?
[06:06] <gnomefreak> zuokanyunqi: you dont why not try #ubuntu-cn or #ubuntu-zh
[06:06] <pulver> jareth_, agree they should, anyway if someone made an app for it on linux i'll find it... eventually
[06:07] <saskia> mephis1987_: i need to see which modules run on your web server
[06:07] <zuokanyunqi> gnomefreak, nobady there answer me
[06:07] <tanuki_> arrick: you mean like 60-60, like that?
[06:07] <arrick> yes
[06:07] <orbin> arrick, tanuki_ : refresh rate can be chosen via sys>prefs>screen res
[06:07] <jareth_> pulver: mom.. on the phone now :)
[06:07] <saskia> something like: 56-62
[06:07] <orbin> tanuki_: don't do that
[06:07] <pulver> jareth_, lol
[06:07] <tanuki_> orbin: dont do what?
[06:07] <zuokanyunqi> gnomefreak, how to give you the message
[06:08] <mephis1987_> saskia, i have search the phpinfo() page
[06:08] <mephis1987_> there is no info for modules ?
[06:08] <gnomefreak> if you gave it to me i couldnt read it anyway. other than you sit there and type what it says in english word for word not much i can say :(
[06:08] <saskia> mephis1987_: no word of "mysql" ?
[06:08] <jareth_> pulver: wish you luck ! ;)
[06:08] <orbin> tanuki_: you should enter the right rates for your monitor
[06:08] <gnomefreak> anyone in here know chinese?
[06:08] <pulver> jareth_, thanks
[06:08] <mephis1987_> supported databases 	MySQL ODBC PostgreSQL Microsoft SQL Server FrontBase Oracle 8 (oci8) Sybase-CT SQLite
[06:09] <mephis1987_> that s all
[06:09] <arrick> orbin, I thank you for you infinite wisdom, I told the rate he needed, I dont know how to change it see above^^ heh ahaha
[06:09] <tanuki_> orbin: i do not know the correct rate, however 75 mhz should work for the vert max
[06:09] <saskia> gnomefreak: wo bu ze dao
[06:09] <arrick> 60 mhx will make it work
[06:09] <tanuki_> ok
[06:09] <gnomefreak> saskia: that doesnt help me much can you translte zuokanyunqi error?
[06:09] <arrick> not 75, to ofast
[06:09] <gnomefreak> translate*
[06:09] <zuokanyunqi> gnomefreak, where to past the message
[06:09] <arrick> !pastebin
[06:09] <ubotu> I heard pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[06:09] <gnomefreak> !p[astebin
[06:09] <ubotu> gnomefreak: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:09] <saskia> gnomefreak: sorry, i can't
[06:10] <zuokanyunqi> gnomefreak, i can let it display in english
[06:10] <gnomefreak> ok try that than
[06:10] <zuokanyunqi> saskia, so you know chinese
[06:10] <arrick> gnomefreak, if you need to use #arrick for pastes, go ahead, if they cant paste
[06:10] <saskia> zuokanyunqi: yi dien dien
[06:10] <arrick> to pastein
[06:10] <zuokanyunqi> arrick, the links
[06:11] <tanuki_> arrick: that did not work, i got an error when i tried to start the xserver
[06:11] <arrick>  type /join #arrick
[06:11] <arrick> ouch
[06:11] <orbin> tanuki_: look at the fixres wiki page gnomefreak gave you.  you need to enter two ranges.  one for horizontal sync and one for vertical refresh.  both of these factor in to the final refresh rate you get
[06:11] <amsterdam> i have some problems with apt-get... gconf: Depends: libdb3 (>= 3.2.9-23) but 3.2.9-22ubuntu1 is to be installed
[06:11] <amsterdam> cat /etc/apt/apt.conf
[06:11] <amsterdam> APT::Default-Release "breezy";
[06:11] <yipe> what might be possible reasons for not being able to access the tty with ctrl alt f1-f6?
[06:11] <arrick> that should have worked with 110v and 60 hz in the us
[06:12] <orbin> tanuki_: by enter the ranges, i mean open up /etc/X11/xorg.conf and edit the Monitor section
[06:12] <amsterdam> what is wrong ? (tried apt-get -t dapper install gconf|libdb3)
[06:12] <zuokanyunqi> gnomefreak, look this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12099
[06:12] <arrick> orbin, thats what someone else said earlir too
[06:12] <gnomefreak> amsterdam: have you run sudo apt-get update and than sudo apt-get upgrade?
[06:12] <saskia> does electricity's power frequency differ monitor's frequency? (50/60Hz) i don't think so
[06:12] <arrick> nope
[06:12] <amsterdam> gnomefreak: yes
[06:12] <tanuki_> orbin: vertrefresh and horizsync, correct? are they case sensetive?
[06:12] <saskia> they're totally different frequencies
[06:13] <mlehrer> newb question here, i want to try kde on dapper
[06:13] <zuokanyunqi> gnomefreak, i just typed apt-get install i want to cancle this
[06:13] <arrick> q
[06:13] <gnomefreak> zuokanyunqi: ok so type y and let it go
[06:13] <mlehrer> how do i get the "standard" kde desktop installed
[06:13] <PuMpErNiCkLe> saskia: I don't think so, but I have heard of 'dirty' power sources messing up the image a bit.
[06:13] <mlehrer> without installing a kubuntu cd
[06:13] <MisterN> saskia: i think TVs were created to have the same freq as the power network. but no, monitor's prolly don't
[06:13] <mlehrer> can i just do apt-get install kde
[06:13] <gnomefreak> zuokanyunqi: thats normal output for installing that package
[06:13] <tanuki_> for some reason i am getting distortion when i use anything past 640x480, which never happened before after using sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:13] <zuokanyunqi> gnomefreak, if i type no ,it will display again
[06:14] <orbin> tanuki_: yeah, get the case right.  correct format is in the wiki page
[06:14] <gnomefreak> mlehrer: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[06:14] <saskia> what about LCDs ?
[06:14] <tanuki_> orbin: actually that wiki page would not come up for me, can you tell me please?
[06:14] <gnomefreak> zuokanyunqi: just type a y
[06:14] <zuokanyunqi> gnomefreak, if a install another package
[06:14] <mlehrer> gnomefreak: ironic to come from someone named gnomefreak :)  thanks
[06:14] <saskia> probably tubes have this problem
[06:14] <gnomefreak> lol mlehrer
[06:14] <zuokanyunqi> gnomefreak, there will be an error
[06:14] <gnomefreak> zuokanyunqi: than i need the error also
[06:14] <zuokanyunqi> ok
[06:15] <gnomefreak> mlehrer: i run 4-5 desktops
[06:15] <orbin> tanuki_: HorizSync          30-96
[06:15] <orbin>      VertRefresh        50-160
[06:15] <Hexidigital> gnomefreak, would your solution for mleher's situation work for fluxbox?
[06:15] <mlehrer> gnomefreak: which ones
[06:15] <orbin> tanuki_: those are only example range values.
[06:15] <orbin> tanuki_: look, just pastebin /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:15] <gnomefreak> Hexidigital: sudo apt-get install fluxbox
[06:15] <Hexidigital> cool.. thanks gnomefreak
[06:15] <gnomefreak> Hexidigital: flux doent have a meta package
[06:15] <saskia> try mine:         HorizSync       30-82
[06:15] <saskia>         VertRefresh     56-76
[06:16] <zukero> is it safe to remove all the kernels packages that are not directly linked to the one i'm booting on ?
[06:16] <saskia> i use a Philip monitor LCD, 17"
[06:16] <Hexidigital> gnomefreak, what do you mean meta package?
[06:16] <orbin> saskia: he should really try and find out the exact ones for his monitor
[06:16] <saskia> and 1280x1024 res.
[06:16] <gnomefreak> zuokanyunqi: i would keep the one your on and the one before the rest look for in synaptic and completely remove
[06:17] <gnomefreak> Hexidigital: kubuntu-desktop xubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-desktop install a bunch of apps along with the base install
[06:17] <Hexidigital> gnomefreak, i see
[06:17] <gnomefreak> Hexidigital: they are called meta packages for that reason
[06:17] <zuokanyunqi> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12100
[06:18] <Hexidigital> gnomefreak, will gnome programs still work? i.e. gnomebaker, gedit, etc?
[06:18] <gnomefreak> flux black open (box) enlightenment are all basic desktops very verry light weight
[06:18] <gnomefreak> Hexidigital: yes
[06:18] <Linuturk> happy news. I'm on my first attempt to make Ubuntu my primary OS
[06:18] <Linuturk> away from windows
[06:18] <orbin> zukero: sure.  i removed all the 386 stuff after i installed k7
[06:18] <yipe> yay Linuturk!
[06:18] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Linuturk: good job :)
[06:18] <Hexidigital> gnomefreak, i dont  have to reinstall the programs, do i?
[06:18] <zukero> thx dudes
[06:18] <yipe> I just did the same thing about a week ago
[06:18] <arrick> gnomefreak, is there a way to install gedit without gnome?
[06:18] <defcon8> Linuturk, go back to windows
[06:19] <yipe> completely got rid of windows and I haven't looked back:)
[06:19] <Linuturk> i'm still on a dual boot system, but i'm not using windows unless I can't figure something out in an emergency
[06:19] <defcon8> Linuturk, youll hate it
[06:19] <Sanne> Hexidigital, packages.ubuntu.com is a convenient way to search for package names and their dependencies, if you want to have a look.
[06:19] <arrick> Windows is ok, but ubuntu rocks
[06:19] <defcon8> WINDOWS > *
[06:19] <gnomefreak> zuokanyunqi: can you paste me your /etc/apt/sources.list please
[06:19] <Hexidigital> Sanne, thanks... i forgot about that site :)
[06:19] <yipe> defcon8: that's a pretty unpopular opinion around here
[06:19] <gnomefreak> Hexidigital: no
[06:19] <Klay|busy> where * means os2?
[06:19] <Linuturk> defcon8: actually, i already made my girlfriend move over, before I got the nerve to
[06:19] <Sanne> Hexidigital :)
[06:19] <defcon8> Linuturk, just dont do it
[06:19] <cybin> hi
[06:20] <Hexidigital> gnomefreak, sanne, thanks guys.... gotta go play now  :P
[06:20] <yipe> haha linuturk
[06:20] <gnomefreak> Hexidigital: have fun
[06:20] <stamen81> hello
[06:20] <cybin> I want to change the default window manager. Where do I specify it?
[06:20] <defcon8> cybin, ~/.xinitrc
[06:20] <saskia> i still use windows for desktop, and Debian stable for servers, period. but now i just began to peek Ubuntu as desktop
[06:20] <stamen81> where I can get the libraries for Klamav
[06:20] <tonyyarusso> Linuturk: Better than I've managed.
[06:20] <gnomefreak> stamen81: i thought it was clamav?
[06:20] <yipe> I think defcon8 is working for microsoft.... probably on the "Get the facts" campaign:P
[06:20] <PuMpErNiCkLe> gnomefreak: kde integrated version, I guess? :)
[06:20] <zuokanyunqi> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12102
[06:20] <Linuturk> you know what she liked about it? her favorite part was all the screensavers
[06:21] <defcon8> yipe, get the damn facts
[06:21] <yipe> Halloween Papers!:P
[06:21] <cybin> uh... that's all? It was my first idea.
[06:21] <stamen81> yes, but there is Klamav too:)
[06:21] <saskia> Klamav will be thought of something related to KDE
[06:21] <stochastic> I'm a newbie that can't get all of my 40Gig secondary harddrive to be available (it's only letting me have 34.7gigs)
[06:21] <Linuturk> and, she is an XFCE fan
[06:21] <tonyyarusso> defcon8: Um, may I ask why you even bother?
[06:21] <saskia> sounds like AK-47
[06:21] <gnomefreak> stamen81: apt-cache search klamav
[06:21] <defcon8> tonyyarusso, sorry? i've been using nix for 3 years
[06:21] <gnomefreak> that should tell you what they are
[06:21] <stamen81> gnomefreak, so do you know from where I can get them
[06:21] <defcon8> tonyyarusso, people she be intelligent enough to spot the troll
[06:22] <gnomefreak> zuokanyunqi: no wonder :(
[06:22] <cybin> defcon8: I mean, I want to have all the gnome stuff and things but want to replace the window manager.
[06:22] <zuokanyunqi> gnomefreak, i just want to cancle the installation and do not want that appear again
[06:22] <stamen81> gnomefreak, with this command there si nothing
[06:22] <defcon8> cybin, use something called twin
[06:22] <stamen81> because ubuntu knows only clamav
[06:22] <arrick> hey guys can it, windows has it place in the expensive world, while ubuntu has its place in both worlds ?(free and expensive)
[06:22] <tonyyarusso> defcon8: And now that ap* is here, spotting and kickbanning could be closely related.
[06:22] <gnomefreak> zuokanyunqi: tell me what uname -r says when typed into terminal
[06:22] <simonpca> a+, je quitte, exam d'anglais :\
[06:22] <cybin> defcon8: If I put it into .xinitrc it will stop starting gnome I guess.
[06:22] <stamen81> because ubuntu knows only but on the oficial site there is Klamav and clamav
[06:22] <defcon8> tonyyarusso, shit my damn pants
[06:22] <arrick> !language
[06:22] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[06:22] <gnomefreak> stamen81: than you would have to go where you found it and find the files
[06:22] <zuokanyunqi> gnomefreak, 2.6.15-19-386
[06:23] <stamen81> gnomefreak, I want to install klamav
[06:23] <Linuturk> should I be worried about malware on ubuntu? that hybrid virus did just come out, didn't it?
[06:23] <defcon8> tonyyarusso, take a damn joke and stop the threatening ok?
[06:23] <stochastic> help, my swap space isn't being used, do I need to configure it somehow?
[06:23] <defcon8> cybin, no. you need to read docs
[06:23] <stamen81> gnomefreak, I am downloading from the oficial web sote
[06:23] <saskia> Linuturk: nothing beats social engineering
[06:23] <stamen81> gnomefreak, I am downloading from the oficial web site
[06:23] <defcon8> cybin, first. what is "put" ?
[06:23] <stamen81> gnomefreak, but there is only source and installer
[06:23] <gnomefreak> zuokanyunqi: ok open you /etc/apt/sources.list again and erase whats in it i will give you a list to put in there   what is the country code you use?
[06:23] <Linuturk> saskia: social engineering? you mean, don't click on that if it looks bad?
[06:24] <yipe> I think he's funny, it's like the colbert report, he makes fun of those who hold opposite opinions of him by pretending to be onne of them
[06:24] <cybin> defcon8:I mean, if I write the window manager into my .xinitrc it will just only start the window manager and nothing more.
[06:24] <gnomefreak> stamen81: ubuntu offical website?
[06:24] <stamen81> gnomefreak, no
[06:24] <saskia> Linuturk: you may get fooled, phised, you name it
[06:24] <stamen81> gnomefreak, Klamav
[06:24] <defcon8> cybin, no it will not
[06:24] <defcon8> cybin, there is something extra. use google
[06:24] <gnomefreak> stamen81: its not a ubuntu package you will have to get the tar and compile/build/install it
[06:25] <zuokanyunqi> gnomefreak, what is country code ,cn?
[06:25] <arrick> or else get their sources line
[06:25] <arrick> canada
[06:25] <gnomefreak> ok yes zuokanyunqi
[06:25] <tonyyarusso> arrick: That's ca, not cn.
[06:25] <arrick> oh yeah
[06:26] <arrick> thanks for the correction
[06:26] <saskia> anyway, you can whois him, lookup his IP
[06:26] <arrick> tonyyarusso, how are you so wise at your age?
[06:26] <tonyyarusso> arrick: np - it's in my IP to remind me ;)
[06:26] <arrick> haha
[06:26] <zuokanyunqi> gnomefreak, i am not going to install it now ,how to cancle this
[06:26] <yipe> what might be possible reasons for not being able to access the tty with ctrl alt f1-f6?
[06:26] <stamen81> gnomefreak, ok
[06:26] <saskia> but if he's using open proxy, i don't know
[06:27] <cybin> defcon8: It is still using the default window manager even if I write the other on into my .xinitrc.
[06:27] <defcon8> cybin, i said there is more
[06:27] <defcon8> cybin, i said to use google
[06:27] <gnomefreak> zuokanyunqi: just close the terminal
[06:27] <Sanne> cybin, here's something that may help you: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CustomXSession
[06:27] <cybin> defcon8: Sure. I use google and I've found nothing usefull.
[06:27] <defcon8> cybin, useful*
[06:27] <a4paper> Hello again
[06:27] <cybin> defcon8: That's why I'm here.
[06:27] <defcon8> cybin, search for .xinitrc
[06:27] <saskia> depends on your keyword
[06:28] <cybin> blblbl
[06:28] <a4paper> I have a problem with the LiveCD
[06:28] <cybin> sure
[06:28] <zuokanyunqi> gnomefreak, but once i want to install an package , it will appear again
[06:28] <gnomefreak> zuokanyunqi: paste this into your sources.list file and get rid of whats int here
[06:28] <gnomefreak> zuokanyunqi: if you do as i say it will be installed calm down
[06:28] <gnomefreak> http://pastebin.com/655891
[06:28] <Sanne> cybin, saw my link I gave you?
[06:28] <yipe> so... no one knows why ctrl+alt+f1 isn't working?
[06:28] <gnomefreak> zuokanyunqi: link to new list is http://pastebin.com/655891
[06:28] <a4paper> Can anoyone help me with a booting problem?
[06:29] <gnomefreak> !anyone
[06:29] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[06:29] <a4paper> ok
[06:29] <a4paper> I was just being polite
[06:29] <tonyyarusso> yipe: Not really.  Had trouble with that once b/c of a video driver, but it was more switching back to 7 afterwards than getting to 1-6.
[06:29] <yipe> hmmmm
[06:29] <yipe> this is really odd
[06:29] <a4paper> I've burnt the .sio ok. But when I put it in the drive and startup - it won't boot
[06:29] <a4paper> *.iso
[06:30] <cybin> Sanne: Yes.
[06:30] <dead_kelly> hey all I am running Ubuntu on a G3 iBook that is 500Mhz with 128MB ram... anyway I had sound working from install with the previous ubuntu install disk i used, but on this new distro disk sound isn't coming up... can anyone lend some advice?
[06:30] <Sanne> cybin, ok :)
[06:30] <BSDinux> do you get a boot error or does it simply not boot? you probably have to change your bios startup settings
[06:30] <a4paper> it simplt does not boot
[06:30] <cybin> What I did is to put the line "exec kahakai" into .xinitrc and nothing changed.
[06:30] <saskia> common mistake: people burn the *.iso as a regular file, not burning it as 'image'
[06:30] <a4paper> I went into the bios and tried getting it to boot from the CD drive
[06:30] <a4paper> But it wouldn't
[06:30] <BSDinux> boot into your bios and check if your cd-rom is first in the boot-order
[06:30] <a4paper> I have burnt it ok
[06:30] <a4paper> its second in the order
[06:31] <BSDinux> it has to be before the harddisk
[06:31] <FlannelKing> what's first?
[06:31] <a4paper> How do I change it
[06:31] <BSDinux> otherwise you'll always boot from the hardisk
[06:31] <a4paper> hard drive
[06:31] <BSDinux> depends on your bios, it should say how to change it
[06:31] <saskia> you burn as *.iso will also be ok!
[06:31] <a4paper> Hmm
[06:31] <saskia> use "burn image"
[06:31] <a4paper> I'll have another look
[06:31] <BSDinux> usually page-up, arrow keys or something like that
[06:31] <a4paper> I'll try and change the order then
[06:31] <dead_kelly> hey all I am running Ubuntu on a G3 iBook that is 500Mhz with 128MB ram... anyway I had sound working from install with the previous ubuntu install disk i used, but on this new distro disk sound isn't coming up... can anyone lend some advice?
[06:31] <BSDinux> good luck
[06:31] <harisund> Does anybody having experience using latex on Ubuntu? All my professors use Latex on Linux, and now that I need it too, I was wondering if someone could point me towards good resources for learning and using latex on ubuntu?
[06:31] <a4paper> I'll probably be back soon
[06:32] <zuokanyunqi> gnomefreak, i get this E: The package latex-cjk-korean needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[06:32] <cybin> Ah, I see. To have gdm make use of .xinitrc I need to create a link. Hm.. let's see.
[06:32] <gnomefreak> zuokanyunqi: did you run sudo apt-get update?
[06:32] <zuokanyunqi> yes
[06:32] <gnomefreak> zuokanyunqi: ok now type sudo apt-get install --reinstall latex-cjk-korean
[06:33] <isa> ...
[06:33] <zuokanyunqi> gnomefreak, where does the apt-get record install message
[06:33] <zuokanyunqi> gnomefreak, i want to remove that
[06:33] <sophtpaw> hi girl_latina
[06:33] <gnomefreak> zuokanyunqi:you want to remove what?
[06:33] <gnomefreak> the error message?
[06:33] <zuokanyunqi> yes
[06:34] <sophtpaw> guys does skype work on ubuntu now?
[06:34] <gnomefreak> no you dont
[06:34] <zuokanyunqi> gnomefreak, the info that what package will be installed
[06:34] <saskia> sophtpaw: search in google or digg.com
[06:34] <sophtpaw> saskia: for what?
[06:35] <saskia> skype on ubuntu
[06:35] <gnomefreak> zuokanyunqi: i dont understand what you want. i thought you wanted the package installed?
[06:35] <sophtpaw> guys, does anyone here know whether skype works on Ubuntu now?
[06:35] <saskia> doh
[06:35] <gnomefreak> sophtpaw: it should as always
[06:35] <BSDinux> why don't you try
[06:35] <sophtpaw> saskia: i know where to find skype, i want to know whether it works on ubuntu
[06:35] <gnomefreak> on dapper i dont know and people that are asking dapper questions please move over to #ubuntu+1
[06:35] <sophtpaw> gnomefreak: well it never did for me before : (
[06:35] <zuokanyunqi> gnomefreak, no if i reboot,and run "apt-get install" i will get that error again
[06:36] <zuokanyunqi> gnomefreak, i just type "apt-get install"
[06:36] <saskia> then try
[06:36] <gnomefreak> zuokanyunqi: you dont just type that
[06:36] <gnomefreak> that will give you error
[06:37] <gnomefreak> zuokanyunqi: please join #ubuntu+1 for further assistance
[06:37] <harisund> Does anybody having experience using latex on Ubuntu? All my professors use Latex on Linux, and now that I need it too, I was wondering if someone could point me towards good resources for learning and using latex on ubuntu?
[06:38] <cybin> Uh.. guys... as I said. As soon as the .xinitrc is recognized it is just starting the window manager and nothing more.
[06:38] <N2DIY> How can I configure my serial mouse using the live CD?
[06:38] <saskia> !anyone
[06:38] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[06:38] <cybin> I want to replace the default window manager for gnome.
[06:39] <sophtpaw> gnomefreak: was there a 'best' way as i recall of installing skype on ubuntu? like the rpm version and installing it with alien? or just the straightforward .deb version?
[06:39] <saskia> cybin: apt-get install gdm ? or dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[06:39] <saskia> oh, the whole thing? window manager?
[06:39] <jean> i am having problems installing the package libpango1.0-0 and  libpango1.0-common as they seem to depend on eachother... any ideas?
[06:40] <terlmann> does anyone know about alternatives to synaptic package manager?                              I want to replace the default window manager for gnome too.
[06:40] <saskia> jean: aren't there suppose to be no dependencies problem here?
[06:40] <PuMpErNiCkLe> sophtpaw: .deb is usually better than .rpm, since .deb is the 'native' way of handling packages on ubuntu
[06:40] <erUSUL> harisund, the best way to begin is with lyx IMHO
[06:40] <jean> saskia: hrm.. in this channel? or with the two packages?
[06:40] <Sanne> cybin, terlmann re window manager: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Openbox
[06:41] <saskia> jean: with the packages
[06:41] <cybin> Sanne: ? I dont want openbox. I want to use kahakai instead.
[06:41] <harisund> erUSUL: lyx? ok I will try that. What is that? Is that like an IDE?
[06:41] <jean> saskia: well if you take a look here (the second post) you can see what is outputted http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=159117
[06:42] <anymo> cybin, you mean you want to choose default one between kde and gnome?
[06:42] <arrick> ok guys Later
[06:42] <sophtpaw> PuMpErNiCkLe: ok, thx. I knew that but vaguely recall people in this instance using alien to install the rpm version of skype
[06:42] <Sanne> cybin, I thought maybe this page might get you ideas how to do that.
[06:42] <anymo> cybin, choose default window manager, anyway?
[06:42] <arrick> terlmann, you caould use terminal
[06:42] <N2DIY> Ok, no mouse, how do I navigate Xwindow from the keyboard?
[06:42] <anymo> cybin, I think it was a command ... something like update-alternatives x-window-manager
[06:43] <anymo> cybin, has to be run as root I think, so sudo...
[06:43] <PuMpErNiCkLe> sophtpaw: Take a look at what gnomefreak said in #ubuntu+1, that should explain it.
[06:43] <harisund> erUSUL Sorry I think I got disconnected. What do I do once I install Lyx? (sudo apt-get install lyx)
[06:43] <cybin> anymo: No. When gnome is starting up it starts a certain window manager. And I want to replace this window manager.
[06:43] <david__> Hi
[06:43] <igge> hello
[06:44] <cybin> anymo: I still want to have gnome but with kahakai for window management.
[06:44] <david__> when will ubuntu get gnome 12.4?
[06:44] <igge> what could I use to change the size of a partition?
[06:44] <apokryphos> gparted
[06:44] <PuMpErNiCkLe> david__: Dapper already has gnome 2.14, and teh official release will be June 1.
[06:44] <PuMpErNiCkLe> s/teh/the/
[06:44] <sophtpaw> PuMpErNiCkLe: yes, i noted that: it is being downloaded now (60%)
[06:44] <igge> apokryphos: I know but..
[06:44] <erUSUL> harisund yes it is a gui editor for latex. you need to intall the latex dist (tetex)
[06:44] <PuMpErNiCkLe> sophtpaw: cool :)
[06:45] <sophtpaw> : )
[06:45] <david__> oh so how do i get dapper?
[06:45] <anymo> cybin, I don't know but check the update-alternatives command.. I think it is the way to do it but I don't know exact parameter, I think it is something like x-window-manager
[06:45] <apokryphos> david__: /msg ubotu upgrade
[06:45] <david__> huh?
[06:45] <PuMpErNiCkLe> david__: You can either upgrade through apt, or download a preview release - Flight cd 6 is the latest, IIRC.
[06:45] <sophtpaw> UBUNTU ROCKS!
[06:45] <igge> apokryphos: I mean... I have my system running now.. and I can start gparted.. but my partition is already mounted...
[06:45] <david__> oh so flight cd is that kde's version of ubuntu?
[06:46] <anymo> cybin, type update-alternatives --help for basic syntax and find what are correct arguments to use with it.. that command is used for defining the default.. something (what you need)
[06:46] <ice> anyone know a good itunes subsitute for linux
[06:47] <ice> so I can listen to podcasts
[06:47] <david__> how do i upgrade from apt?
[06:47] <me2win> amaroK ftw
[06:47] <ice> sudo apt-get upgrade
[06:47] <Krhis> sudo apt-get update
[06:47] <erUSUL> ice, rhythmbox
[06:47] <anymo> cybin, today I used it to choose beetwen couple java versions, and some (long) time ago I know I used it on debian to switch beetwen kde and gnome...
[06:47] <ice> really
[06:47] <Krhis> Do those two in order.
[06:47] <ice> its works good
[06:47] <Krhis> ^^
[06:47] <me2win> ice: amarok
[06:47] <ice> k
[06:47] <ice> which is better
[06:47] <mephis1987_> !rmvb
[06:47] <ubotu> mephis1987_: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:47] <ice> or doesn;t matter
[06:47] <me2win> ice: amarok
[06:47] <mephis1987_> !real
[06:47] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, mephis1987_
[06:47] <igge> ah... i found a gparted LiveCD ...
[06:48] <mephis1987_> !real_player
[06:48] <ubotu> mephis1987_: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:48] <anymo> ice, I'd say amarok too.. I like it a lot..
[06:48] <cruocitae> I've just installed Breezy with the option "server", since I want to customize it, I don't want all the bloat (I call it this way), like Gnome, and so. All I want is enlightenment, but I dunno how to get the X window system.. (XORG).. I mean, I know apt-get and everything, but when I do an apt-get install xorg.. blaah, it wants to d/l around 1 Gb.. Should I only get xorg-common?
[06:48] <me2win> ubotu: tell mephis1987_ about restricted
[06:48] <FAIKATA> help
[06:48] <ice> k thx guys
[06:48] <FAIKATA> where can I get printer drivers for linux
[06:48] <ice> can you subscribe using amarok too
[06:48] <ice> if so how ?
[06:49] <FAIKATA> for fujitsu dl 900
[06:50] <stjepan> hi
[06:50] <me2win> ice: if you open up amarok, on the left where it says playlists, click it, then right click on podcasts, hit add and enter the feed
[06:50] <stjepan> why are so many people switching from ubuntu to kubuntu?
[06:50] <me2win> stjepan: cuz KDE r0x
[06:50] <stjepan> me2win: why???
[06:50] <Sanne> cruocitae, you can search for packages and look at their contents and dependencies at packages.ubuntu.com
[06:51] <CNAP> anybody know of any cdburning software that will burn directly from mp3
[06:51] <anymo> me2win, it depends.. I've been using kde for quite a long time and I'm happier with gnome on ubunu now
[06:51] <ice> there is no podcast option ?
[06:51] <stjepan> anymo: why? what's so good in gnome? :
[06:51] <ice> on playlist
[06:51] <stjepan> :)
[06:51] <me2win> stjepan: alot of people like to be able to customize their environment in everyway, thats what KDE offers
[06:51] <stjepan> what about nautilus vs konqueror?
[06:51] <anymo> me2win, it simply fits for me better...
[06:51] <stjepan> and many apps are Qt apps
[06:52] <anymo> me2win, you're right there, kde is far more customizable but I like gnome simplicity...
[06:52] <Sanne> me2win, you don't actualy need to *switch*, because it's all Ubuntu, only with different desktops. I have apps from both gnome and kde under an xfce desktop.
[06:52] <CNAP> you can get Qt apps to run in GNOME. i have a few that are running right now
[06:52] <CNAP> so does anybody know of any cd burning software that will burn directly from mp3's to cd
[06:52] <anymo> nothing stops you to run kde apps under gnome too...
[06:52] <_Marek_> does anyone know how to change the resolution of the gdm login?
[06:52] <me2win> Sanne: well, I know that, but I thought he was asking about kde vs gnome
[06:52] <anymo> I have amarok which is kde under gnome...
[06:53] <me2win> ice: you dont have a podcast option?
[06:53] <ubuntu> hello i have a bit of a problem. i nedd to burn a install cd from the live aplication. witch program shell i use and where can i find it?
[06:53] <mephis1987_> is it ok to uninstall ubuntu desktop
[06:53] <ice> nope
[06:53] <ice> is it a plugin maybe
[06:53] <anymo> me2win, kde maybe looks better than gnome but gnome is really effective and usable
[06:53] <mephis1987_> i want to delete totem but it asks to delete ubuntu desktop
[06:53] <defcon8> yeah so do i
[06:53] <Sanne> me2win, oh sorry, I meant to address stjepan ...
[06:53] <me2win> anymo: kde is just as effective ans usable, just more customizable
[06:54] <defcon8> me2win, gnome is better
[06:54] <pedro> jelou
[06:54] <me2win> ice: are you looking in settings or are you looking under playlists?
[06:54] <anymo> me2win, so there is no need to fight over it... just use the one you like :)
[06:54] <stjepan> defcon8: why is it better for you?
[06:54] <stjepan> KDE is much more configurable, KDE apps are often much better than GTK apps...
[06:54] <defcon8> stjepan, why is it not better for you?
[06:54] <_Marek_> my gdm starts at 1280x1024 on a 15"crt monitor :/
[06:54] <me2win> anymo: i hate flame wars over KDE gnome, you use the one you like and thats pretty much it :D
[06:54] <stjepan> better KDE themes :)....
[06:54] <ice> playlist bro
[06:55] <anymo> me2win, just as I said :)
[06:55] <me2win> anymo: yep
[06:55] <ice> installing a plugin called ipodslave for amarok
[06:55] <anymo> me2win, no need to flame, actually I have dual boot ubuntu/gnome and suse/kde...
[06:55] <ice> maybe thats it
[06:55] <defcon8> stjepan, i thought you said that kde is bloaty and that themes are unneccesary
[06:55] <stjepan> isn't gnome going to die?
[06:55] <stjepan> kde will kill gnome :)
[06:55] <stjepan> qt is gaining popularity...
[06:55] <_Marek_> stjepan, you  wish
[06:55] <me2win> stjepan: kde4 will kill gnome :D
[06:55] <me2win> imhp
[06:55] <me2win> imho*
[06:56] <defcon8> well all be dead by the time kde4 gets released
[06:56] <stjepan> defcon8: ehmm... I am often saying what I don't think to see what are other people think about that
[06:56] <anymo> defcon8, good one :D
[06:56] <me2win> defcon8: i plan to live till 2007
[06:56] <defcon8> me2win, did you not read nostradamus?
[06:56] <defcon8> anymo, cheers
[06:56] <_Marek_> i'm not sure why people want one or another dekstop to disappear
[06:56] <Nokio> Hello, where i work we need to configure a special keyboard definition... and i was wondering how this could be done
[06:56] <mephis1987_> i want to delete totem but it asks to delete ubuntu desktop
[06:56] <_Marek_> i think its superb to have both on the scene
[06:56] <cybin> anymo: Yes, that took me a bit closer. I will have a look. Thank you.
[06:57] <mephis1987_> should i delete it ?
[06:57] <me2win> _Marek_: agreed
[06:57] <me2win> mephis1987_: how are you deleting it?
[06:57] <stjepan> mephis1987_: no, don't delete ubuntu-desktop
[06:58] <mephis1987_> me2win, synaptic
[06:58] <_Marek_> stjepan, and it's also not true that either all kde/qt apps or gnome/gtk apps are better, it really needs to be judged on an individual basis
[06:58] <anymo> I really liked kde and it's customisability... but after some time I realised that I don't need any of these little thingies that only drain your cpu
[06:58] <me2win> yeah
[06:58] <stjepan> btw, what theme do you use with KDE?
[06:58] <me2win> yeah to _Marek_ that is
[06:58] <ice> I use fluxbox
[06:58] <me2win> stjepan: i use alphacube
[06:58] <ice> very nice
[06:58] <ice> low resources
[06:59] <me2win> stjepan: but right now im using the compiz windec
[06:59] <me2win> cuz i have XGL running
[06:59] <stjepan> isn't ubuntu-desktop more ubuntish, more polished for ubuntu?
[06:59] <skpl> can someone please tell me what the command is to upgrade to dapper dan after replacing all instances of breezy in my sources.lst?
[06:59] <anymo> now I finde gnome extremely simple and useful.. I found nothing to complain about it and I definitely don't miss that extra high customizability
[06:59] <stjepan> me2win: really? what do u think about water effect?
[06:59] <ice> just do a
[06:59] <Sanne> isn't all this discussion about desktops more suited in #ubuntu-offtopic?
[06:59] <anymo> skpl, apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:59] <ice> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:00] <a4paper> I'm back again
[07:00] <anymo> skpl, as root ofcourse.. (sudo)
[07:00] <stjepan> Sanne: maybe, but I think that discussion is dead now :)
[07:00] <ice> becareful though
[07:00] <a4paper> I got Ubuntu working - it looks great
[07:00] <Sanne> stjepan, it is? Fine :)
[07:00] <a4paper> I have a couple of problems however - first does ubuntu have support for wireless network cards?
[07:01] <a4paper> I'm guessing yes
[07:01] <stjepan> me2win: water is one of the best compiz plugins for me, but it's too slow :(((
[07:01] <a4paper> I'll have to fiddle with the settings
[07:01] <ice> damn still no podcasts option
[07:01] <ice> hmm
[07:01] <ice> any clue
[07:02] <me2win> ice: shows up for me on the left under playlists
[07:02] <ice> what version do you have
[07:02] <me2win> do you have a playlists thingy on the left?
[07:02] <ice> yep
[07:02] <me2win> k click it
[07:02] <me2win> if there isnt a podcast folder
[07:02] <me2win> then click where it says Add
[07:02] <stjepan> think about that: you have baghira qt theme, very macish desktop, very much aquish... a lot of blue, a lot of water, water plugin is making waves on your desktop, waves in bacground with xwinwrap, kxdocker is zooming on your desktop.... mmmm :)
[07:02] <me2win> and has the down arrow
[07:02] <futzilogik> if both eth0 and eth1 are up, how can i set the default gateway to eth0? (the choice in network-admin is completely ignored)
[07:03] <Tsukihime> hey, if i install ubuntu on my pc and the give the HDD to a friend with ubuntu installed on my comp, will he have problems with the ubuntu in his house?
[07:03] <a4paper> As I'm on a laptop - I have one of these strange touchpad thingies - and I had the problem on Windows of editing the settings so that it wouldn't register clicks with the touchpad and only with the buttons - How do I change htis under Ubuntu?
[07:03] <ice> you mean under add media
[07:03] <me2win> ice what version do you have
[07:03] <anymo> ice, what amarok version do you have?
[07:03] <ice> one sec
[07:03] <skpl> can someone tell me how to change my splash screen at login?
[07:04] <ice> 1.3.9
[07:04] <anymo> than it should work
[07:04] <ice> maybe I should be in kde
[07:04] <ice> instead of fluxbox
[07:04] <ice> or doesn't it matter
[07:04] <anymo> ice, it works over here in gnome for me :)
[07:04] <ice> hmm
[07:05] <ice> is it another engine maybe
[07:05] <_kyle> Can anyone tell me how I can find the brand of my ethernet card in ubuntu and possibly the driver it is using?
[07:05] <ice> you have
[07:05] <anymo> ice, you go to playlist tab on left, and if you see that add button up there you can add podcasts through it
[07:05] <me2win> ice: you are clicking playlist on the left right, now on the context menu up top
[07:05] <ice> I see add media
[07:05] <me2win> not*
[07:05] <anymo> you should see ad and that little arrow
[07:05] <anymo> so you'll get dropdown menu clicking on it
[07:05] <Sanne> _kyle, you can get some info with 'lspci -v'
[07:06] <_kyle> Sanne, thanks.
[07:06] <stjepan> do you like osx-like menubar?
[07:06] <anymo> skpl, for that splash, open configuration editor
[07:06] <futzilogik> how can i set the default gateway to eth0, if both eth0 and eth1 are up and eth1 is used by default? (the choice in network-admin is completely ignored)
[07:06] <defrysk> !repos
[07:06] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[07:06] <a4paper> As I'm on a laptop - I have one of these strange touchpad thingies - and I had the problem on Windows of editing the settings so that it wouldn't register clicks with the touchpad and only with the buttons - How do I change htis under Ubuntu?
[07:07] <skpl> anymo, ok
[07:07] <skpl> anymo, then what?
[07:07] <anymo> skpl, there you go to apps>gnome-session>options, and you'll see entry for splash
[07:07] <stjepan> when will be new KDE released?
[07:07] <Psykus> how do I resize partitions from within ubuntu? (meaning not in the installer)
[07:07] <stjepan> !touchpad
[07:07] <ubotu> stjepan: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:08] <me2win> Psykus: you can use console or you can use Gparted (gnome) or QtParted(KDE)
[07:08] <stjepan> !help touchpad
[07:08] <ice> I got it now
[07:08] <ice> its on the very left hand side
[07:08] <stjepan> !touchpad
[07:08] <ice> sorry
[07:08] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, stjepan
[07:08] <Psykus> me2win, what command is used for the console?
[07:08] <Sanne> _kyle, when you identified the chipset, you can search the list of currently loaded kernel meodules for something familiar with 'lsmod'
[07:08] <anymo> ice, at least you found it ^^
[07:08] <McLeod_> I got the player working, ubotu, although it still claims some mp3 files are not a proper media stream. But, better some then none, i guess :-)
[07:09] <a4paper> stjepan - can you help with my touchpad problem?
[07:09] <_kyle> Sanne, how can I access this list of loaded kernel modules?
[07:09] <johnny3d> Can someone help me get sound working on a breezy install?
[07:09] <stjepan> McLeod_: who are you talking to? :)
[07:09] <MisterN> _kyle: lsmod
[07:09] <anymo> skpl, found it?
[07:09] <Sanne> _kyle, type lsmod
[07:09] <stjepan> a4paper: I don't think so, I don't use any laptops... but ....
[07:09] <_kyle> Sanne, sorry if I dont know too much, third day with linux.  OK
[07:09] <gerhard_> how do I update my Gnome to 2.14?
[07:10] <McLeod_> i asked i question here and got a reply from ubotu  in my whisper??? stjepan
[07:10] <erUSUL> !tell johnny3d about sound
[07:10] <stjepan> McLeod_: ubotu is a bot :)
[07:10] <niklas> how do i log out from gnome to some non grafic console?
[07:10] <stjepan> a4paper: what touchpad is it?
[07:10] <McLeod_> i figured as much, so i got the reply through the bot?
[07:10] <MetaMorfoziS> niklas: sudo /etc/inti.d/gdm stop
[07:11] <me2win> Psykus: not sure
[07:11] <MetaMorfoziS> or ctrl alt f1...f8
[07:11] <stjepan> McLeod_: I don't know, it's a smart bot :)
[07:11] <Sanne> _kyle, no problem at all :). You can also search the startup system logfiles for your card, try typing 'dmesg | grep -i ethernet'
[07:11] <skpl> anymo, found it, thank you
[07:11] <McLeod_> lol
[07:11] <MetaMorfoziS> f7 is the  graphical screen
[07:11] <anymo> skpl, no problem, I've just changed mine two days ago, so it's still fresh to me ^^
[07:11] <gerhard_> how do I update my Gnome to 2.14?
[07:11] <_kyle> Sanne, "[4294676.508000]  forcedeth.c: Reverse Engineered nForce ethernet driver. Version 0.41."   lol
[07:12] <gerhard_> come on
[07:12] <McLeod_> but okay, as said, i got the rythmbox working for most mp3's, so thanks guys
[07:12] <johnny3d> sound in kubuntu
[07:12] <Sanne> _kyle, heh
[07:12] <a4paper> Stjepan- Synaptics touchpad
[07:12] <stjepan> a4paper: you there?
[07:12] <erUSUL> gerhard_, wait till dapper come out
[07:12] <inc|freaky> what is a good wlan manager (client) for KDE, with which i can set up multiple networks (im running kubuntu on my laptop) and which also supports WEP and WAP encryption?
[07:13] <_kyle> Sanne, thanks again, bye
[07:13] <gerhard_> mh
[07:13] <gerhard_> ok
[07:13] <Sanne> _kyle, you're welcome
[07:13] <Sanne> uff
[07:13] <stjepan> a4paper: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticsTouchpadHowto
[07:13] <johnny3d> erUSUL, *sound in kubuntu
[07:13] <P__> do I need anything special to compile a kernel using Ubuntu ? it seems the 2.6.16 has my network card support
[07:13] <P__> should I compile using gcc 3.3 3.4 or 4.0 ?
[07:14] <a4paper> thanks stjepan
[07:14] <BaniCity> como  entrar directamente a #ubuntu-es
[07:14] <erUSUL> P__, i'm compiling it with 4.0 without problems
[07:15] <erUSUL> johnny3d, what's the problem? have you follow the intructions in the wiki page?
[07:15] <johnny3d> erUSUL, yes.  I even downloaded alsaconf and had it detect my card.
[07:15] <erUSUL> johnny3d, and still no sound?
[07:15] <BaniCity> ubuntu-es
[07:15] <Joetheodd> Is there any way to set my resolution to something not in the menu, but that I know my video card and monitor can handle?
[07:16] <johnny3d> erUSUL, yes, still nothing.
[07:16] <mephis1987_> i want to uninstall totem player , it asks to delete ubuntu desktop
[07:16] <mephis1987_> is it ok del it ?
[07:16] <gerhard_> when will "Dapper" come out?
[07:16] <me2win> gerhard_: June 1st is FINAL release date
[07:16] <me2win> the beta is out already
[07:16] <me2win> or alpha
[07:16] <BaniCity> como estrar a #ubuntu en spanish
[07:16] <gerhard_> cool
[07:16] <Joetheodd> Gerhard: 666. Er, 6-6-06
[07:16] <me2win> whatever you wanna consider it
[07:16] <me2win> BaniCity: ubuntu-es
[07:16] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Joetheodd about fixres
[07:16] <mephis1987_> me2win , i want to uninstall totem player , it asks to delete ubuntu desktop  , is it ok ?
[07:17] <Joetheodd> Oh, 616.
[07:17] <phoul> Excuse me
[07:17] <phoul> Im trying to play a certin audio file in amarok and it keeps crashing it
[07:17] <gerhard_> will I be able to update then or do i have to install it again
[07:17] <phoul> It plays fine in xmms and this is the error i get
[07:17] <phoul> colin@Ubuntu:~$ ICE default IO error handler doing an exit(), pid = 7925, errno = 0
[07:17] <me2win> mephis1987_: ubuntu-desktop is your entire ubuntu desktop system, if you uninstall it, it will uninstall your entire gnome GUI
[07:17] <stjepan> why is cdimages.ubuntu.com so slow? :-o Is it so busy or what?
[07:17] <BaniCity> me2win pero como mandame un link
[07:17] <me2win> gerhard_: you will be able to dist-upgrade
[07:17] <mephis1987_> upps , me2win how can i uninstall totem only
[07:17] <gerhard_> oh ok
[07:18] <Psykus> hm, I need to resize my ubuntu partition, but parted won't let me since it's being used, is there anyway to remount the partition as readonly or something so it can resize while i'm in ubuntu? this is all in a console btw, my GUI isn't working
[07:18] <erUSUL> johnny3d,  try this aplay /usr/share/sounds/phone.wav
[07:18] <Sanne> mephis1987_, find ubuntu-desktop in synaptic, then read what it says in the properties, that should help you decide.
[07:18] <Psykus> i know it does that when fsck does a check
[07:18] <me2win> BaniCity: hace /j #ubuntu-es
[07:19] <cybin> cu
[07:19] <BaniCity> ok gracias
[07:19] <tarawa> PsyberOne, resize with live CD
[07:19] <tarawa> Psykus,  resize with live CD
[07:19] <erUSUL> me2win, BaniCity   *haz*  /j #ubuntu-es
[07:20] <erUSUL> 8^P
[07:20] <phoul> can anyone help me?
[07:20] <phoul> Im having a problem with amarok
[07:20] <ice> hey did you every use a ipod on amarok or can't you do that
[07:20] <ice> or has anyone tried it
[07:20] <ice> cause they have a ipod plugin
[07:20] <me2win> erUSUL: yeh my bad, i typed hace and didnt backspace far enough
[07:21] <erUSUL> !enter
[07:21] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[07:21] <StyleUK> how are
[07:21] <StyleUK> you
[07:21] <StyleUK> ;)
[07:21] <me2win> mephis1987_: try sudo apt-get remove totem
[07:22] <johnny3d> erUSUL, it says it is playing it but I can't hear it.
[07:22] <varsendagger> is there a way to run internet explorer?
[07:22] <me2win> varsendagger: wine
[07:22] <johnny3d> varsendagger, mozilla is infinatel better
[07:23] <erUSUL> johnny3d, have you checked with alsamixer the volume levels and that no channel is muted?
[07:23] <varsendagger> johnny3d, no flash 8 for inux though
[07:23] <me2win> johnny3d: im sure he is asking for the sake of his web design career :D
[07:23] <stormrider> does anyone know if it is possible to use a dialup modem in qemu?
[07:23] <me2win> or flash
[07:23] <erUSUL> varsendagger, use windows 8^P
[07:23] <johnny3d> erUSUL, i'll check again.
[07:24] <varsendagger> erUSUL, what is windows 8^p?
[07:24] <blindx> Taskbar buttons are flashing for no reason ! Where are the settings for this?
[07:24] <pancho> Help pls, I'm looking for a Lexmark printer driver (X6170) any clue ?
[07:24] <Sanne> varsendagger, you might want to try this script. I don't know if flash works, though. http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/
[07:25] <Stormx2> Where are FF cookies stored on ubuntu?
[07:25] <erUSUL> pancho, linuxprinting.org
[07:25] <johnny3d> erUSUL, i checked and LFE was muted but unmuting it didn't help.
[07:25] <me2win> stoat: ~/.mozilla/firefox/profiles/yourprofile/cookies.txt
[07:25] <me2win> Stormx2: : ~/.mozilla/firefox/profiles/yourprofile/cookies.txt
[07:25] <Thafar> hi all
[07:26] <moulinex> Anyone installed gEDA for ubuntu? I got error msg when starting gschem..
[07:26] <stjepan> !fglrx
[07:26] <ubotu> rumour has it, fglrx is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:26] <Stormx2> me2win: k
[07:26] <stjepan> !ati
[07:26] <ubotu> well, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[07:26] <pancho> thanks, ciao
[07:26] <ScreaminIke> what's te command to remove a directory? rm keeps telling me it can't remove my directories...
[07:26] <erUSUL> johnny3d, well now i'm oficially aout of ideas (check the fisical connections jacks cables etc...)
[07:27] <ubuntu> hey can sum1 tell me wtf is happening i inserted the ubuntu cd and now like 30mins later i am in the desktop
[07:27] <ubuntu> i dont know if anything/everything is installed?
[07:27] <johnny3d> erUSUL, will do, thankyou.
[07:27] <Thafar> I've got xcompmgr installed and they say that it should work ok and perfectly smooth with the latest nvidia driver installed ... but I think I installed it correctly though it aint running perfectly smooth :( ... how can I check whether I installed the driver correctly?
[07:27] <BaniCity> hello alguien tiene una lista de canales en espaol
[07:28] <ubuntu> i am worried, has ubuntu copied overy any partitions?
[07:28] <mephis1987_> !mplayer
[07:28] <ubotu> mplayer is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[07:28] <blindx> Where are the settings for the taskbars flashing?
[07:28] <blindx> Because XMMS's button is flashing for no reason? :\
[07:28] <skpl> can someone tell me how to get the original firefox icons back?
[07:28] <izmaelis> does anybody know simple yet good php ide on linux? something like PHP Designer 2005 under Windblows
[07:28] <erUSUL> BaniCity, ve a #ubuntu-es
[07:28] <stjepan> izmaelis: blefish?
[07:29] <ubuntu> hey does live-cd mean it boots from the cd without installign a thing?
[07:29] <stjepan> bluefish*
[07:29] <erUSUL> ubuntu, yes
[07:29] <ScreaminIke> what's te command to remove a directory? rm keeps telling me it can't remove my directories...
[07:29] <ubuntu> oh cool.. hehe i meant to install it on hard disk, what should i do know?
[07:29] <stjepan> rm -r
[07:29] <BaniCity> erUSU
[07:29] <stjepan> or rmdir
[07:29] <patrick52222> is it possible to enable tv out on ubuntu
[07:29] <BaniCity> hay casi no hablan
[07:29] <phoul> 
[07:29] <izmaelis> stjepan, is it possible to somehow extend bluefish? auto comple, more colorful etc...
[07:30] <P__> what is the command to build a kernel ? first, make menuconfig ?
[07:30] <P__> and then ?
[07:30] <stjepan> I don't know, never used it :(
[07:30] <roryy> !tell P__ about kernelhowto
[07:30] <erUSUL> BaniCity, here you can not talk in spanish sorry  (aqu no puedes hablar en espaol se siente :()
[07:30] <patrick52222> !nvidia
[07:30] <ubotu> somebody said nvidia was at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[07:30] <ScreaminIke> what's te command to remove a directory? rm keeps telling me it can't remove my directories...
[07:30] <BaniCity> ok
[07:31] <skpl> can someone tell me how to change my hostname in ubuntu?
[07:31] <shedi> ScreaminIke, rm -r directory
[07:31] <patrick52222> is it possible to enable tv out on a !nvidia graphic card
[07:31] <Thafar> how can I check if my nvidia driver is installed correctly?
[07:31] <shedi> skpl, edit /etc/hostname
[07:31] <P__> roryy, thanks
[07:32] <skpl> shedi, when i tried that i got thsi error:
[07:32] <immolo> Can anyone tell me if the best way to install a custom kernel is to use a vanilla kernel or an ubuntu source one?
[07:32] <skpl> shedi, sudo: unable to lookup regulairty via gethostbyname()
[07:32] <stjepan> ScreaminIke: or rmdir
[07:32] <roryy> skpl: oops.  You need to update /etc/hosts too.  I suspect you'll need to boot into recovery mode now (sudo won't work anymore)
[07:32] <stjepan> !python
[07:32] <ubotu> stjepan: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:32] <shedi> skpl, echo "blablablab" > /etc/hostname
[07:32] <shedi> skpl, use sudo
[07:33] <erUSUL> immolo, the ubuntun one has many external drivers included if you need one of those use the ubuntu one if not you can safely use the vanilla (i'm using it myself)
[07:34] <immolo> erUSUL, well I like vanilla as it's more upto date but does usplash still work or does it need patching
[07:34] <skpl> roryy, really? so boot into recovery mode and do sudo nano /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname?
[07:34] <patrick52222> any readme's on how to gettvout workin on ubuntu
[07:34] <roryy> skpl: only if sudo isn't working
[07:34] <roryy> skpl: which it probably isn't if you edited hostname but not hosts
[07:35] <skpl> actually all i did so far was use the hostname command
[07:35] <ubuntu> whats default livecd root password?
[07:35] <skpl> roryy, sudo: unable to lookup regulairty via gethostbyname()
[07:35] <skpl>  does that mean sudo is not working?
[07:35] <roryy> skpl: yip
[07:35] <skpl> great
[07:35] <skpl> is this gonna screw up my system?
[07:35] <Thafar> wc
[07:35] <roryy> been there, done that ;)
[07:35] <mabus06> how do you setup a microphone?
[07:35] <noobie> hello
[07:35] <noobie> I'm having problems with the fglrx drivers
[07:35] <roryy> skpl: in fact, you can just boot into normal mode; your hostname will be restored
[07:35] <erUSUL> immolo, you need patching iirci
[07:36] <codecaine> anybody know how I can patch my madwifi so I can use aireplay?
[07:36] <stjepan> !microphone
[07:36] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, stjepan
[07:36] <noobie> I've got them installed and I can run fgl_glxgears just fine
[07:36] <minimec> noobie: What problem?
[07:36] <noobie> however when I try to run glxgears
[07:36] <skpl> roryy, restored to what? what it was before i changed it using hostname command?
[07:36] <noobie> the system hard freezes
[07:36] <roryy> skpl: yip
[07:36] <patrick52222> any readme's on how to get tvout workin on ubuntu
[07:36] <roryy> skpl: the file /etc/hostname is used at boot to set the machine's hostname
[07:36] <noobie> and if I try any openGL games it says nosigal on my monitor or the monitor just goes black
[07:36] <blindx> How do I get to 1280*1024 screen resolution?
[07:36] <skpl> roryy, and then change bot /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts?
[07:36] <patrick52222> !tvout
[07:36] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, patrick52222
[07:37] <erUSUL> !tell blindx about fixres
[07:37] <roryy> skpl: yes. I suggest either a persistent sudo shell ( 'sudo -i' ) or having two names in /etc/hosts (i.e., have both old and new name resolve to 127.0.0.1)
[07:38] <inc|freaky> s there any password manager compatible with keepass password safe?
[07:38] <SirKillalot> how do I change the percentage value of a cenity --progress dialog?
[07:38] <patrick52222> how do i enable tv out on a nvidia graphic card on linux ubuntu
[07:38] <skpl> roryy, i have no idea what you just said
[07:38] <mabus06> how come I can't capture audio from my microphone?
[07:38] <noobie> any ideas how it could be fixed?
[07:39] <roryy> skpl: basically, be careful ;).  It is easy to lock yourself out of sudo doing this
[07:39] <stamen81> I have a question again:)
[07:39] <skpl> roryy, doing what? im simply going to wait for my dist-upgrade to finish then retsrat my computer and hope it works like you said it would
[07:39] <patrick52222> how do i enable tv out on a nvidia graphic card on linux ubuntu, anyone as i want to test my projector out
[07:39] <ubuntu> does any1 know of a program for ubuntu in which i can recover partitions?
[07:39] <noobie> patrick52222:  install nvidia-settings
[07:39] <stamen81> haow can I make my pc to change the MAC adress of my eht0
[07:39] <roryy> skpl: i thought you wanted to change your hostname; if not, never mind
[07:39] <Yan^> hello people, I have just installed ubuntu 5.10, there is a surprising thing: he never asked me to choose the root password. Is this normal??
[07:40] <patrick52222> noobie: i have
[07:40] <noobie> patrick52222:  then in there there should be a TV out section
[07:40] <stamen81> and this must be at the boot time
[07:40] <skpl> roryy, i do want to change it, by editing both /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts
[07:40] <roryy> !tell Yan^ about rootsudo
[07:40] <skpl> roryy, that should not be too risky, right?
[07:40] <noobie> also my fglrx-control returns command not found :(
[07:40] <erUSUL> !tell Yan^ about root
[07:41] <CNAP> any suggestions for cd burning software that can burn directly from an mp3 to cd
[07:41] <skpl> gnomebaker
[07:41] <stjepan> can I change language for ALL apps?
[07:41] <skpl> or not
[07:41] <roryy> skpl: it's not really risky (after all, you can always boot into recovery mode to fix it), but it's easy to get wrong
[07:41] <skpl> i dont care
[07:41] <skpl> roryy, is it possible to irc in recovery mode?
[07:41] <CNAP> nope gnomebaker doesn't burn straight from mp3
[07:41] <skpl> roryy, that is all i want to know, so i can come here for help if i do screw it up
[07:41] <minimec> rick52222:  install nvidia-settings
[07:41] <minimec> 19:41 <stamen81> haow can I make my pc to change the MAC adress of my eht0
[07:41] <minimec> 19:41 <roryy> skpl: i thought you wanted to change your hostname; if not, never mind
[07:42] <roryy> skpl: i don't know. i don't think it's recommended to irc as root ;)
[07:42] <stamen81> minimec,  yes this is the question
[07:42] <skpl> no, i do not suppose so
[07:42] <skpl> i can always boot into xp if something goes terribly wrong though
[07:42] <stamen81> minimec,  a script which mak the changes
[07:43] <Yan^> roryy, erUSUL: many thanks for the info. This is very surprising!! never seen a Linux distro like that. why is it so??
[07:43] <minimec> stamen81: sorry. This was completly accidental ;)
[07:43] <stamen81> I want to make it to change the phisical address of my ethernet card
[07:43] <stamen81> without me
[07:43] <erUSUL> Yan^, better security i guess
[07:43] <curuptura> hi channel
[07:43] <stamen81> minimec,  so dou know something for this
[07:43] <stamen81> minimec,  ideas
[07:43] <stamen81> minimec,  ?:)
[07:44] <stjepan> can I apply a language for all apps?
[07:44] <minimec> stamen81: it's like you highlight some accidently and press the paste button.
[07:44] <stamen81> minimec,  :)
[07:44] <stamen81> minimec,  ok
[07:44] <roryy> skpl: basically, use 'sudo -i' so you can lose root, in at least one shell; then, no matter what happens, you can fix it without rebooting
[07:44] <roryy> skpl: i mean, *can't* lose root
[07:44] <minimec> anyway, why do you want to change the MAC Adress of eth0?
[07:44] <Yan^> erUSUL: well i tried just to type "apt-get install [smth] " and he said you are not a root. Do u mean  these things can be handled through sudo?
[07:45] <minimec> stamen81: anyway, why do you want to change the MAC Adress of eth0?
[07:45] <skpl> roryy, so using sudo -i i can change my hostname by editing .etc.hosts and /etc/hostname without rebooting?
[07:45] <erUSUL> Yan^, yes type sudo apt-get .... and you are done
[07:45] <Yan^> erUSUL thanx ;)
[07:45] <stamen81> because I want and I need to do this
[07:45] <Stephanosky> hi all
[07:45] <curuptura> ppl i have a very strange problem
[07:46] <curuptura> my dns # changed to 192.168.1.1 every 10 min.
[07:46] <curuptura> and i have to change it back
[07:46] <skpl> call your service provider and ask them
[07:46] <stjepan> for what apps I can't change lang in Ubuntu?
[07:46] <skpl> probably get more help from techsupport
[07:46] <curuptura> u think so ?
[07:46] <skpl> definately.
[07:46] <noobie> is there anything I need to install to get fglrx-control to work?
[07:46] <skpl> s'what i do deweduh
[07:47] <curuptura> cant i protect the resolv.confg against changing ?
[07:47] <erUSUL> noobie, if it is apt should have installed it for you
[07:47] <curuptura> i tryed to make it read only , i did but it changed again
[07:47] <erUSUL> curuptura, no
[07:47] <curuptura> i see
[07:47] <noobie> erUSUL:  I installed it but when i type fglrx-control in a terminal to open it I get fglrx-control: command not found
[07:47] <skpl> roryy, so using sudo -i i can change my hostname by editing .etc.hosts and /etc/hostname without rebooting?
[07:48] <erUSUL> curuptura, it says it clearly in the begining of the file
[07:48] <minimec> stamen81: ok. Try this... ifconfig eth0 ether hw xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx
[07:48] <stjepan> how do you pronounce "FAQ"? :))))))
[07:48] <stamen81> I know this
[07:48] <gooddoggytreat> "Ef Aye Cue"
[07:48] <wvelez> Hi...how do I check the checksum of dapperdrakes iso? thanks
[07:48] <roryy> skpl: 'sudo -i' gives you a persistent root shell; as opposed to, say, 'sudo nano /etc/hosts', where, once nano finishes, you lose root privileges
[07:48] <erUSUL> curuptura, man resolv.conf (yes there are man pages for conf files ;))
[07:48] <roryy> hrm
[07:48] <roryy> nm
[07:48] <stamen81> minimec, but after reboot I must write this again
[07:49] <patrick52222> how do i enable tv-out on ubuntu
[07:49] <me2win> wvelez: from which OS
[07:49] <stamen81> minimec, I want to make it to change without me
[07:49] <B_166-ER-X> sudo -s works too
[07:49] <wvelez> me2win: breezy
[07:49] <Amir_U> A begginers question: How do I switch between languages?
[07:49] <stamen81> minimec, I want to make it automate process
[07:49] <me2win> wvelez: md5 dapper.iso
[07:49] <P__> how to install a deb package on ubuntu ?
[07:49] <wvelez> me2win: thank u.
[07:49] <stjepan> Amir_U: change it at the login screen
[07:50] <noobie> P__:  sudo dpkg --install <packagename>
[07:50] <erUSUL> P__, dpkg -i *.deb (are you sure you can not install it through apt?)
[07:50] <minimec> stamen81: make a simple script and load it in the boot-process. Ypu could even load it with gnome.
[07:50] <stamen81> sudo dpkg -i -> this is the same
[07:50] <stjepan> P__: or sudo dpkg -i <pkg name>
[07:50] <stjepan> :)))
[07:50] <stamen81> how to make
[07:50] <stamen81> I don't know, help
[07:50] <wvelez> me2win: md5: command not foun d
[07:51] <_harm> do u have to buy Cedega or can u also do it free?
[07:51] <stjepan> wvelez: it's not md5, it's md5sum
[07:51] <noobie> _harm:  you can get it from CVS
[07:51] <stamen81> minimec, how to make, I don't know
[07:51] <wvelez> stjepan: thank u
[07:51] <me2win> wvelez: yeah its md5sum my bad
[07:51] <_harm> noobie... ah legal?
[07:51] <noobie> _harm:  yes, but it will not have a GUI or some other things
[07:51] <wvelez> mkd5sum works...thank u
[07:51] <patrick52222> how do i enable tv-out on ubuntu
[07:52] <_harm> noobie thats fine i suppose.. so its a beter version of wine?
[07:52] <P__> ok thanks, and is there a repository somewhere, i need to find libncurse
[07:52] <ice> hey does anyone know if oblivion works in wine
[07:52] <noobie> _harm:  yes and no, depends on what your trying to do...
[07:52] <minimec> stamen81: The script must start with the first line #!/bin/bash
[07:52] <noobie> _harm:  what are you looking to do with it?
[07:53] <erUSUL> P__, sudo apt-get install libncurses5
[07:53] <minimec> stamen81: snd. line is  ifconfig eth0 ether hw xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx
[07:53] <ice> umm playing the game
[07:53] <stjepan> _harm: cedega is basically a version of wine for emulating windows games
[07:53] <ice> elder scrolls IV
[07:53] <minimec> stamen81: third line is #END
[07:53] <noobie> _harm:  most games work fine on regular old wine
[07:53] <_harm> noobie i just wanne play cs.. but right now i can get it to work via WINE but it freezes up for 20seconds @ random
[07:53] <stjepan> noobie: but not directx games
[07:53] <minimec> stamen81: save that and make it executable.
[07:53] <noobie> _harm:  what wine version?
[07:53] <_harm> noobie then maby its something with my ATI card newest i think? i keep everyrthing updated
[07:53] <gooddoggytreat> Cedega just has a better logo and more exotic name.
[07:53] <stjepan> _harm: what's "cs"?
[07:54] <noobie> _harm:   what kernel version you have?
[07:54] <stjepan> gooddoggytreat: not true ;)
[07:54] <harisund> Can someone explain how the process "gnome-pty-helper" help me in anyway? I seem to have 40 processes with the same name
[07:54] <P__> erUSUL, i have no network, but foudn it on debian repository
[07:54] <stamen81> ok
[07:54] <stamen81> thanks
[07:54] <_harm> stjepan CS = counterstrike CZ= CounterStrike condition Zero CS;S CounterStrike Source
[07:54] <gooddoggytreat> stjepan: it does have a cooler logo, though.
[07:54] <noobie> _harm:  I remember it being somthing to do with steam having issues with any kernel 2.6 series that is before 2.6.15
[07:54] <_harm> noobie i have ubuntu 5.10
[07:54] <stamen81> minimec, where to put it
[07:54] <stjepan> gooddoggytreat: but not "just"
[07:54] <harisund> Nobody seems to have solved it in the forums as well
[07:54] <erUSUL> P__, you shuld not mix debian and ubuntu deb they are not compatible
[07:55] <CNAP> what can i use to decompress a RAR file?
[07:55] <AndyC> Hey. Can anyone help with getting a patch working for DigiKam?
[07:55] <_harm> CNAP unrar
[07:55] <stamen81> minimec, where to put the script
[07:55] <P__> erUSUL, oh ok, where should I find it please ?
[07:55] <noobie> _harm:  once dapper is out it will solve the problem, or rather it should.  Unless you'd like to compile a new kernel
[07:55] <_harm> noobie lets say ur name aplies to me not you ;) i guees ill wait june right?
[07:55] <noobie> _harm:  would be easiest :)
[07:56] <erUSUL> P__,  without net connection it may be dificult ;)
[07:56] <Amir_U> A begginers question: How do I switch between languages? I do not want to change the user interface, but only to write in a different language. I had installed all the neccessary packages using the Language Selector.
[07:56] <_harm> noobie do u also know if dapper comes with GLX?
[07:56] <stjepan> _harm: why not use dapper flight? :)
[07:56] <noobie> _harm:  do you have a working fglrx-control?
[07:56] <FlannelKing> _harm: if you're using english and stuff, you should be able to switch april 20, when dapper goes beta.
[07:56] <stjepan> _harm: you mean XGL?
[07:56] <_harm> stjepan cuz if things break i wouldnt know what to do :P
[07:56] <P__> erUSUL, yes I have an usb key. I need to compile a 2.6.16 to get network
[07:56] <AndyC> Hello?!
[07:56] <noobie> _harm:  I've been using dapper since flight 4 and not much has broken :)
[07:56] <stjepan> _harm: I'm 99% sure things won't break
[07:56] <_harm> noobie i think i did that ... didnt help much exept now when i wine CS its runs in Software mode and not OpenGL
[07:57] <noobie> _harm:  whats the output of flgrxinfo?
[07:57] <_harm> FlannelKing ah then i suppose i shall the 20th
[07:57] <minimec> stamen81 Hmm... Save it in /usr/local/bin That should do.
[07:57] <stjepan> AndyC: tell us what's your problem exactly and you'll get help... try to do it yourself first
[07:57] <_harm> noobie let me get that for u
[07:57] <AndyNeedsHelp> hello?
[07:57] <harisund> Has anybody seen the number of processes running on their system, and got stunned by the amount of gnome-pty-helpers around?
[07:58] <swab79> AndyNeedsHelp: Hello
[07:58] <_harm> noobie bash: flgrxinfo: command not found
[07:58] <stjepan> AndyNeedsHelp: tell us what's your problem exactly and you'll get help... try to do it yourself first
[07:58] <noobie> _harm:  it seems your fglrx driver is not properly installed then?
[07:58] <AndyNeedsHelp> swab79: Have you ever come across imageprinter.cpp
[07:58] <_harm> stjepan and noobie ill switch to dapper soon but patience is a virtue
[07:58] <AndyNeedsHelp> ?
[07:58] <erUSUL> P__, http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/base/libncurses5
[07:58] <CNAP> _harm: mucho gracias
[07:58] <_harm> noobie so its seem =[ ill look at it tonight
[07:58] <_harm> CNAP no problem
[07:58] <ware> anyone want to help me with an ISA firewall problem?
[07:59] <noobie> _harm:  I'm also having problems with my fglrx drivers
[07:59] <ware> I cant seem to get synaptic to update repositories
[07:59] <Amir_U> How do I get someone's attention on this channel?
[07:59] <swab79> AndyNeedsHelp: No, sorry... what is it that you are trying to do?
[07:59] <minimec> stamen81: Stop all that. I am a complete geek. :) We will do it the right way ;)
[07:59] <noobie> _harm:  oops!! typo
[07:59] <skpl> is it possible to have both gnome and kde installed and switch between them?
[07:59] <FlannelKing> Amir_U: just ask the question.
[07:59] <noobie> _harm: it should be fglrxinfo
[07:59] <_harm> noobie arnt we all.. ubuntu should like make it work from teh start :P but i suppose universality goes above performance
[07:59] <gerhard_> yes skpl
[07:59] <stamen81> minimec, ok
[08:00] <skpl> gerhard_, can you tell me how?
[08:00] <stamen81> minimec, tell me what to do
[08:00] <noobie> _harm:  try fglrxinfo
[08:00] <eedge> I have a working set of ndiswrapper drivers for my card, and have installed them correctly everything seems fine the light are on etc, but I am getting no scan results.
[08:00] <stamen81> minimec, :)
[08:00] <ware> anyone want to help me with an ISA firewall problem? Synaptic Pacakge Management cant seem to see teh repositories thru the firewall
[08:00] <eedge> and I'm stumped at what to do next, any ideas?
[08:00] <Amir_U> well, I did. About switching between languages...
[08:00] <gerhard_> er
[08:00] <AndyNeedsHelp> stjephan & swab79 : I have spent a while on this problem now, its the only annoyance on my system! I am trying to speed up the printing from Digikam. It takes up to 20 minutes to print a decent photo. I have found a patch which is meant to make the printing more intelligent but cant work out where the file is that I need to apply the patch to!
[08:00] <gerhard_> what are you running now? skpl
[08:00] <minimec> stamen81: sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces
[08:00] <FlannelKing> _harm: if ATI would release hardware specs, it'd be easy.  Problem is we're having to reverse engineer the drivers.
[08:00] <_harm> noobie http://pastebin.com/656090
[08:00] <skpl> gerhard_, gnome
[08:00] <FlannelKing> Amir_U: then no one must have seen you.  What's the question?
[08:01] <noobie> _harm:   yes it appears your fglrx driver isn't fully / properly installed :-(
[08:01] <_harm> FlannelKing dont get me wrong i have mad respect for everything people do but i just think it would have been nice :)
[08:01] <swab79> AndyNeedsHelp: Sorry can't help... no idea
[08:01] <stjepan> AndyNeedsHelp: have you downloaded sources?
[08:01] <stamen81> minimec, and...
[08:01] <noobie> _harm:  it should say ATI instead of Mesa
[08:01] <_harm> noobie thats a pitty.. ill look into it tonight i have to see a friend of mine.. WHY ARE WOMAN SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND
[08:01] <gerhard_> skpl, then you can run Synaptic, choose KDE and install it
[08:01] <FlannelKing> _harm: you really should complain to ATI, since nvidia has tons fewer problems, as they properly support linux.
[08:01] <_harm> FlannelKing ill write a letter
[08:02] <ware> anyone want to help me with an ISA firewall problem? Synaptic Pacakge Management cant seem to see teh repositories thru the firewall
[08:02] <_harm> and noobie and everyone else thanks for the help!
[08:02] <eedge> ubuntu tried to install drivers for it, they didn't work
[08:02] <FlannelKing> _harm: good man.
[08:02] <eedge> is it possible they're still active.
[08:02] <noobie> _harm:   no problem :)
[08:02] <gerhard_> skpl, when you then have the logon screen of Ubuntu, click on "Session" and you can choose between GNOME or KDE
[08:02] <eedge> and stopping ndiswrapper working
[08:02] <minimec> stamen81: go to the line 'iface eth0 ...'
[08:02] <_harm> talk to you all later Respect
[08:02] <stjepan> _harm: for me ati radeon 9600 works perfectly
[08:02] <stamen81> minimec, and...
[08:02] <AndyNeedsHelp> stjpean: It was installed from synaptic (version 0.8.1). I think I see where you are going though if I download the source I should be able to find the file if its part of that program and patch it there? I wasnt sure is imageprint.cpp was a system file or part of Digikam
[08:02] <skpl> gerhard_, thats it?
[08:02] <minimec> stamen81: there you find the params for the iface eth0
[08:02] <gerhard_> i think so
[08:02] <stamen81> minimec, yes.. :)
[08:02] <P__> erUSUL, ok well i installed it, and the requiered deps. Now when i do make menuconfig I have some errors
[08:02] <noobie> I'm having problems with openGL
[08:03] <jean> can anyone tell me why scanimage -L finds my scanner but xsane cannot?
[08:03] <stjepan> AndyNeedsHelp: download sources and then patch it
[08:03] <eedge> ubuntu tried to install drivers for it, they didn't work.... is it possible they're still active and interfering with ndiswrapper?
[08:03] <noobie> I've installed the fglrx drivers but the screen just goes black in every opengl game...
[08:03] <ware> anyone want to help me with an ISA firewall problem? Synaptic Pacakge Management cant seem to see teh repositories thru the firewall
[08:03] <eedge> because ndiswrapper is showing the all clear?
[08:03] <stjepan> AndyNeedsHelp, but first remove it with synaptic
[08:03] <stjepan> noobie: what about fglrxinfo?
[08:03] <minimec> try to add the line ifconfig eth0 ether hw xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx
[08:03] <AndyNeedsHelp> stjephan: thanks, I hadnt thought of that. I am an idiot! I will see how I get on with it.
[08:03] <noobie> stjepan:  it shows ATI and all that
[08:04] <P__> it says my display is too small to run menuconfig :)
[08:04] <minimec> stamen81: try to add the line ifconfig eth0 ether hw xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx
[08:04] <Amir_U> FlannelKing: How do I switch between languages? I do not want to change the user interface, but only to write in a different language. I had installed all the neccessary packages using the Language Selector.
[08:04] <stamen81> minimec, ok
[08:04] <Obst> Hi
[08:04] <stjepan> AndyNeedsHelp: after patching you must compile it and install (from source!), of course
[08:04] <noobie> stjepan:  fgl_glxgears works, however regular glxgears does not. It locks up and the screen goes black
[08:04] <slavik> Amir_U: right click on a toolbar and select add to toolbar
[08:04] <skpl> gerhard_, how sure are you?
[08:04] <FlannelKing> Amir_U: ah.  I don't know. sorry.
[08:04] <slavik> oops, panel
[08:04] <skpl> does anyone esle have an opinion on that?
[08:04] <gerhard_> er for me it works as i told you
[08:04] <stjepan> noobie: fgl_glxgears work perfectlly?
[08:05] <stjepan> noobie: and glxgears doesn't?
[08:05] <noobie> stjepan:  yes fgl_glxgears works perfectly
[08:05] <skpl> can someone tell me how to add a trashcan launcher to the desktop?
[08:05] <AndyNeedsHelp> stjepan: I should be able to do that! I really don't know why it didnt occur to do that.
[08:05] <noobie> stjepan:  yeah
[08:05] <minimec> stamen81: I did something similar once, when I added specific nameservers.
[08:05] <eedge> ubuntu tried to install drivers for it, they didn't work.... is it possible they're still active and interfering with ndiswrapper? because ndiswrapper is showing the all clear..
[08:05] <stamen81> minimec, I did it, I will reboot now to see what happend
[08:05] <Amir_U> slavik: thanks! I shall try.
[08:05] <Obst> Can i download the ubuntu / files anywhere?
[08:05] <noobie> stjepan:  also fglrx-control doesn't work it gives command not found..
[08:05] <stjepan> noobie: and what do you want to do? you can't play some games or what?
[08:05] <slavik> then scroll down to the utilities section and add the keyboard indicator
[08:05] <eedge> I'm not sure what to do, because its a pretty rare card.
[08:05] <eedge> aka zero google results.
[08:05] <stamen81> minimec, and will tell you
[08:05] <Obst> i want to chroot ubuntu on my vserv
[08:05] <minimec> stamen81: Yeah. Let's hope for the best ;-)
[08:05] <slavik> then you can click on it and add kb layouts and such
[08:05] <noobie> stjepan:  I cannot play any games because of this.
[08:05] <stamen81> minimec, :)
[08:05] <eedge> will 3, from the manufactuerer.
[08:05] <Rug> Howdy all
[08:05] <stamen81> minimec, thank for now
[08:06] <stjepan> noobie: what about reinstalling it?
[08:06] <noobie> stjepan:  have done so already
[08:06] <noobie> stjepan:  I've tried both dapper and breezy
[08:06] <skpl> can someone tell me how to add a trashcan launcher to the desktop?
[08:06] <stjepan> noobie: I think fglrx-control may be somwhere in /opt/something/bin/
[08:06] <jean> has anyone got lexmark scanners working with xsane?
[08:06] <gooddoggytreat> I need some help with booting into my Ubuntu installation using my AGP card. Whenever I use internal VGA it works fine, but when I boot with my AGP card, I get a kernel panic at boot up at 'Starting hotplug subsystem'. The same thing happens to me in Dapper. Can anyone help? It's an NVIDIA GeForce 4400 card.
[08:06] <eedge> Ok, lemmy ask a simplier question - maybe someone will actually answer.... lol
[08:07] <eedge> how do I narrow modprobe -l
[08:07] <stjepan> noobie: what games have you tried?
[08:07] <eedge> I only want to see wireless related stuff.
[08:07] <slavik> skpl: just make a shortcut to ~/.Trash
[08:07] <P__> what kind of processor is a centrino, an i386 or i686 ? (don't laugh)
[08:07] <noobie> stjepan:  I've tried counter-strike, and wolfenstine
[08:07] <FliesLikeALap> P__  686
[08:07] <erUSUL> P__, i686
[08:07] <P__> FliesLikeABrick, thanks !
[08:07] <slavik> P__: centrino is not a processor
[08:07] <skpl> slavik, shortcut? how do i do that?
[08:07] <eedge> how do I narrow modprobe -l I only want to see wireless related things.
[08:08] <slavik> skpl: open your home dir
[08:08] <ware> anyone want to help me with an ISA firewall problem? Synaptic Pacakge Management cant seem to see the repositories thru the firewall
[08:08] <slavik> then press ctrl+H
[08:08] <stjepan> noobie: what about using LD_PRELOAD or LD_LIBRARY_PATH?
[08:08] <skpl> slavik, ok
[08:08] <skpl> than what
[08:08] <ware> anyone want to help me with an ISA firewall problem? Synaptic Pacakge Management cant seem to see the repositories thru the firewall, i just need to get my box updated
[08:08] <noobie> stjepan:  not sure exactly how to use thoes?
[08:08] <Mortuis> Okay, stupid question time.  If I did an "apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.12-10-386", and realized I should have done "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.12-10-686", should I/is there a way to uninstall the 386 headers before installing the 686 headers, or should I just go ahead and install the 686 headers and not worry about the 386 headers sitting there?
[08:08] <eedge> anyone?
[08:08] <slavik> actually, foget that
[08:08] <eedge> absolutely anyone...
[08:08] <ware> eedge: haha i feel ya
[08:08] <skpl> ok
[08:08] <skpl> forgotten
[08:09] <slavik> right click on desktop and select create launcher
[08:09] <stjepan> noobie: for example: LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/blah/blah/path/to/ati/libs/libGL.so.1.2 wolfenstein
[08:09] <ware> anyone want to help me with an ISA firewall problem? Synaptic Pacakge Management cant seem to see the repositories thru the firewall, i just need to get my box updated
[08:09] <slavik> then in command, you want "nautilus ~/.Trash"
[08:09] <noobie> stjepan:  haven't tried that yet.
[08:09] <stjepan> noobie: or: LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/blah/blah/path/to/ati/libs/ wolfenstein
[08:09] <slavik> without quotes
[08:09] <stjepan> noobie: then try it
[08:10] <stjepan> noobie: that's my last idea, try it, I have no more ideas, sorry
[08:10] <stjepan> bbl
[08:10] <eedge> ware: I think we might be invisible... I say we abuse this power whilst we have it, call people names and such ;) lol
[08:10] <blindx> Anyone familiar with the program DVD Shrink for windows?
[08:10] <skpl> slavik, is'nt there a way to do this using the gconf-editor?
[08:10] <noobie> stjepan:  thanks for the help I'll go give it a try
[08:10] <slavik> skpl: no clue
[08:10] <stjepan> np
[08:10] <skpl> because i remember doing this and it keeping the trash icon from my current theme
[08:10] <anymo> ware, how about trying anoither firewall?
[08:10] <slavik> blindx: I've used it, why?
[08:10] <anymo> *another
[08:10] <CarlFK> blindx: yes.  but... there is a new one for Linux (i think...)
[08:10] <blindx> there IS one for linux?
[08:10] <blindx> thats what I wanted to know :P
[08:10] <slavik> skpl: you can change the trash icon ...
[08:10] <ware> anymo: lol
[08:11] <slavik> blindx: not that I know
[08:11] <ware> anymo: you dont just change a firewall in a corporate seteting
[08:11] <skpl> slavik, how?
[08:11] <CarlFK> blindx: it is Open Source and active...  let me find it
[08:11] <AndyNeedsHelp> stjepan: I have the source and delved in and found the file, problem should be solved. Thanks!
[08:11] <Rug> blindx: have you tried dvd::rip ?
[08:11] <slavik> skpl: see the icon in the launcher properties? click it
[08:11] <ware> anymo: and besides i figured itd be a bunch of people in here that DONT USE ubuntu in a real world setting
[08:11] <ware> other than sitting the box on thier desk at home
[08:11] <ware> hook ed to aol / comcast
[08:11] <blindx> Actually, someone asked me if there was a comparable program for windows..
[08:11] <CarlFK> dvd::rip wont' preserve the DVD menu (last I checked)
[08:11] <blindx> And I'm just answering his question
[08:12] <blindx> er
[08:12] <blindx> for linux
[08:12] <anymo> ware, ok, I didn't know what's your situation :O... I thought it's about your personal pc...
[08:12] <ware> nah
[08:12] <ware> the real deal
[08:12] <ware> that apparently no one can help me with
[08:12] <slavik> huh?
[08:12] <skpl> slavik, but i have no idea where the icons for my current theme are located
[08:12] <ware> ANYONE HERE KNOW NETWORKING AND CAN HELP ME GET SYNAPTIC UPDATING REPOSITORIES THRU MY ISA FIREWALL
[08:13] <ware> ANYONE AT ALL
[08:13] <Rug> ware: don't yell
[08:13] <ware> lol
[08:13] <ware> no im yelling
[08:13] <skpl> can someone tell me what this means? sudo: unable to lookup irregularityDDC via gethostbyname()
[08:13] <ware> til i get a yes or no
[08:13] <slavik> in .theme
[08:13] <ware> theres fucking 700 people in here
[08:13] <Mortuis> and none of them can help you
[08:13] <Rug> Handy command:  /ignore ware
[08:13] <ware> someone can say 'yes we know' or 'no were idiots'
[08:13] <erUSUL> !ops
[08:13] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, fabbione, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee
[08:13] <Rug> Now you get no help
[08:13] <slavik> or open the theme manager and click on theme details, then select the icon thing and go to theme folder
[08:13] <Amaranth> what's up?
[08:14] <Rug> Amaranth: Howdy
[08:14] <eedge> how do I narrow modprobe -l to just include information about wireless devices
[08:14] <ware> ANYONE HERE KNOW NETWORKING AND CAN HELP ME GET SYNAPTIC UPDATING REPOSITORIES THRU MY ISA FIREWALL
[08:14] <eedge> or something like that.
[08:14] <slavik> eedge: pipe it through grep?
[08:14] <Seveas> erUSUL, ?
[08:14] <bartekWeyd> hej
[08:14] <N2DIY> ware, your better off doing a google search, I found my mouse problem is a year old bug that way.
[08:14] <slavik> or pipe it into less so you can scroll and such
[08:14] <eedge> I thought a grep thingy would be logical.
[08:14] <Seveas> ware, please behave in here or leave
[08:14] <Seveas> !tell ware about attitude
[08:14] <eedge> but I have no idea what to put in.
[08:14] <Seveas> !tell ware about conduct
[08:14] <Amaranth> ware: If you want on-demand help you have to pay for it, otherwise we're all just volunteers here.
[08:15] <ware> haha you know whats fucking hilaroious
[08:15] <slavik> then pipe it into less
[08:15] <ware> i sit here and ask politly
[08:15] <jenda> Anybody here with lots of free time they would like to give to the Ubuntu community? No technical skills needed...
[08:15] <skpl> slavik, i do not see a button saying go to theme folder
[08:15] <cosmic_> hi @ all
[08:15] <slavik> did you click on the theme details button?
[08:15] <Amaranth> wtf
[08:15] <skpl> yes
[08:15] <Seveas> Amaranth, hehe
[08:15] <slavik> and a new window pops up?
[08:15] <skpl> slavik, there is just a 'remove' button thats all
[08:15] <eedge> slavik, I guessed a grep thingy would be logical (nicely put there) but I' have no idea what to pipe in
[08:16] <slavik> eedge: output of lspci or whatever you need
[08:16] <CosmoDad> jenda: out of curiosity (because I don't owe free time), what would that be?
[08:16] <eedge> oh ok :) I'll try it
[08:16] <CosmoDad> own even
[08:16] <slavik> skpl: are you in ubuntu?
[08:16] <CarlFK> blindx: it is Open Source and active...  http://www.shrinkto5.com/
[08:16] <slavik> system -> pref -> themes
[08:16] <blindx> good deal, man
[08:16] <blindx> thanks
[08:16] <cosmic_> Does anybody know the Game UFO - Alien Invasion ? it doesnt start cause of a file missing called ref_gl.so !!!  Is here anyone so kind to help me ???
[08:16] <jenda> CosmoDad, the Marketing Team
[08:16] <CarlFK> blindx: I admit I have not even tried it yet - just saw it last week
[08:17] <slavik> cosmic_: you are missing a library
[08:17] <Amir_U> slavik: I added the keyboard indicator. I'm not sure that this is what you meant but it looks like the closest choice.
[08:17] <ware> anyone want to help me
[08:17] <Mortuis> I have a stupid question: If I did an "apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.12-10-386", and realized I should have done "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.12-10-686", should I/is there a way to uninstall the 386 headers before installing the 686 headers, or should I just go ahead and install the 686 headers and not worry about the 386 headers sitting there?  I am following a howto and did the wrong step for my chipset.
[08:17] <slavik> yes, correct one
[08:17] <cosmic_> which one @ slavik ??
[08:17] <wogi> Good day, Ubuntuers..
[08:17] <skpl> slavik, YES
[08:17] <skpl> what else?
[08:17] <slavik> when you click on it, you can open the properties
[08:17] <jenda> ware: you need to ask, otherwise, no answer...
[08:17] <CosmoDad> !tell ware about ask
[08:17] <ware> jenda: i did ask, i got banned by a jew
[08:17] <slavik> cosmic_: what am I helping you with?
[08:17] <wogi> Is anyone successfully using Evolution 2.4 (the one that comes with breezy) to connect to an Exchange server?
[08:18] <ware> jenda: i need help with synaptic updating repositories through and ISA 2004 firewall
[08:18] <tonyyarusso> Uh oh.  I broke X.  :(
[08:18] <CosmoDad> jenda: ok thanks
[08:18] <slavik> Amir_U: in the options, you can add layouts there and such, explore the properties a bit, you'll find it
[08:18] <ware> jenda: but all the linux know it alls would rather ban me then give me help
[08:18] <jenda> ware: you gotta be kidding!
[08:18] <ware> jenda: no
[08:18] <ware> ?
[08:18] <erUSUL> Mortuis, headers are source code they do not change with processor type
[08:18] <slavik> ware: there is no such thing as a "linux know it all"
[08:18] <cosmic_> sorry my english issent the best - please try the last sentence in other words ? @ slavik ?
[08:19] <wogi> If I uninstall evolution and evolution-exchaneg, and then reinstall them (with apt-get), I can connect 1 time with no problems to the exchange server and do calandering/email. Yay.  But as soon as I close the application and try to open it again, it gives all kinds of strange errors.  So far the only way I've found to get back in it is to reinstall. :P
[08:19] <CosmoDad> ware: if you had asked politely you'd be given answers possibly
[08:19] <jenda> ware: OK, what do you need, let's get this over with.
[08:19] <ware> ware: im not here to bitch and argue, im here to see if anyone here has any idea on howto authenticate with and ISA firewall
[08:19] <ware> with active directory
[08:19] <ware> via ubuntu
[08:19] <slavik> cosmic_: am I helping with something? (I am having a hard time keeping track of who I tell what).
[08:19] <Mortuis> erUSUL: So linux-headers-2.6.12-10-386 and linux-headers-2.6.12-10-686 will have the same information?
[08:19] <slavik> ware: obviously not, have you tried posting to the forums?
[08:19] <InnerFIRE> !libavcodec2
[08:19] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, InnerFIRE
[08:19] <eedge> slavik, I tried modprobe -l | grep acx (its a acx 111 ti card, its in lspci) no results...
[08:20] <ware> slavik: no i have not
[08:20] <slavik> eedge: pipe the output into less instead of grep
[08:20] <slavik> ware: you should try it ...
[08:20] <slavik> give wiki a try, maybe it has something
[08:20] <ware> slavik: yeah since you niggers cant help with shit.  thanks anyways
[08:21] <slavik> he deserves to use windows the rest of his life
[08:21] <eedge> hahaha
[08:21] <Mortuis> heh
[08:21] <jenda> slavik: indeed. I was just going to ask Seveas for ops for a while so that he could be banned by another jew :-D (not that I believe I'd get them) :)
[08:21] <erUSUL> Mortuis, yes it should
[08:21] <eedge> correction, he deserves to use windows 98 for the rest of his life.
[08:21] <skpl> he deserves to find a bug inside his colon
[08:22] <skpl> BUGS
[08:22] <skpl> ANUS
[08:22] <skpl> EW
[08:22] <skpl> hehe.
[08:22] <slavik> flood
[08:22] <wogi> Soo busy. :)
[08:22] <erUSUL> ware, edit a file named /etc/apt/apt.conf and add a line like   http_proxy="http://user:pass@firewall:port/"
[08:22] <slavik> I'll be back in a few
[08:22] <slavik> erUSUL: you're late, rofl
[08:22] <Mortuis> erUSUL: Interesting, for the sake of paranoia, is there a way I can remove linux-headers-2.6.12-10-386?
[08:22] <wogi> Oh, I'll try the evolution channel maybe :)
[08:23] <Seveas> ok, apparently I can't leave you kids alone
[08:23] <eedge> slavik, tried less to the same results
[08:23] <slavik> Mortuis: apt-get remove
[08:23] <lemat> hello
[08:23] <Mortuis> slavik: thanks
[08:23] <slavik> eedge: you are not getting any output?
[08:23] <slavik> did you try sudo in front?
[08:23] <lemat> for what?
[08:23] <slavik> are you doing lsmod orlspci?
[08:23] <tonyyarusso> I might cry.  I like my X...
[08:24] <slavik> hey tonyyarusso
[08:24] <tonyyarusso> slavik: Hey.
[08:24] <slavik> I'll be back in like 30min, if I am helping you but managed to confuse you, send me a PM ...
[08:24] <eedge> slavik, opps had typed lesss three times.
[08:24] <eedge> haha
[08:25] <blake_ubuntu> hello
[08:25] <wsjunior> hello guys, i've installed kubuntu-desktop on my ubuntu and now i want to remove it but when i try to remove kubuntu-desktop only the metapackage is removed.. how to remove all kde apps installed with kubunut-desktop?
[08:26] <blake_ubuntu> sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop ?
[08:26] <Seveas> wsjunior, debfoster to the rescue
[08:26] <Rudemeister> sudo apt-get remove ubuntu
[08:26] <Seveas> wsjunior, install kubuntu-desktop again and let debfoster prune it
[08:26] <blake_ubuntu> remove ubuntu?
[08:26] <wogi> So, no evolution users about? :/
[08:26] <Rudemeister> merely a joke
[08:26] <wsjunior> debfoster?
[08:26] <blake_ubuntu> wsjunior, do what i said
[08:27] <blake_ubuntu> sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop
[08:27] <eedge> gah
[08:27] <wsjunior> i did
[08:27] <blake_ubuntu> and?
[08:27] <eedge> wireless cards are evil.
[08:27] <wsjunior> but only the metapackage is removed
[08:27] <eedge> :)
[08:27] <blake_ubuntu> why do you want to delete it?
[08:27] <blake_ubuntu> taking up too much disk space?
[08:28] <wsjunior> blake_ubuntu, it messed up the gnome menu and artwork
[08:28] <FlannelKing> oh, what a handy package.
[08:28] <eedge> gah, how do you un-modprobe things?
[08:28] <fraxtal> hey guys
[08:28] <eedge> thats a really stupid thing to say isn't it.. but yeah
[08:29] <Seveas> eedge, modprobe -r
[08:29] <eedge> thanks :)
[08:29] <FlannelKing> wsjunior: you'll want to use debfoster, just like Seveas said.
[08:29] <wsjunior> Seveas, what is this debfoster?
[08:29] <Seveas> wsjunior, install it and read its manpage - seriously, do that and you'll love it 
[08:29] <eedge> still not getting any scan results
[08:29] <eedge> be back later.
[08:29] <jean> is there another graphical front end for scanners other than xsane?
[08:29] <blake_ubuntu> apt-get --purge remove libartsc0
[08:30] <EnterUserName> is there a Kde Printers equivalant for ubuntu
[08:30] <tonyyarusso> Not to self: Must learn to label xorg.conf backups better.
[08:30] <EnterUserName> the Gnomes printing utility sucks
[08:30] <tonyyarusso> I got into X, but this is the one that can't do console switching :(
[08:30] <EnterUserName> Kde's printers is far better
[08:31] <EnterUserName> Is there a way i can use KDE's printing utility with UBuntus gnome?
[08:31] <blake_ubuntu> EnterUserName, whys that?
[08:31] <skpl> how can i tell which version of kde i am using?
[08:32] <EnterUserName> Well, KDE's printing utility scans the ports for available printers
[08:32] <EnterUserName> and automatically see's the correct printer
[08:32] <EnterUserName> for cups client printers
[08:32] <EnterUserName> with gnome i have to edit the url and type the whole one in directly
[08:32] <EnterUserName> well the default one that comes with ubuntu
[08:32] <blake_ubuntu> EnterUserName, is the printer on the network?
[08:32] <EnterUserName> Yes.
[08:33] <piggah> 'lo everyone
[08:33] <blake_ubuntu> EnterUserName, and you have kde installed?
[08:34] <EnterUserName> Blake: I used KDE's utility to add printers and kde is fine finding the printer its just point and click
[08:34] <EnterUserName> but Gnomes version of the printing utility I have not been able to do that
[08:34] <EnterUserName> and one of my work places is switching to gnome and this is the downfall
[08:34] <Amir_U> slavik: thanks!!! I managed to switch to Japanese. I don't speak myself but had done it for a friend... she will be gratefull to you.
[08:34] <EnterUserName> I can set it up but i need something simpler for the users
[08:35] <blake_ubuntu> ic
[08:35] <blake_ubuntu> 1 sec
[08:35] <FlannelKing> Amir_U: there will be even better support in dapper for asian langs
[08:35] <skpl> how can i tell which version of kde i am using?
[08:37] <blake_ubuntu> EnterUserName, cant you just type kprinter while in gnome?
[08:38] <EnterUserName> blake_ubuntu: I'll give it a try. I gotta figure out what package it is. I'm guessing you'll require qt libraries
[08:38] <EnterUserName> so kde appliatiosn will work with gnome?
[08:39] <kbrooks> EnterUserName: yes
[08:39] <blake_ubuntu> EnterUserName, yes
[08:39] <cochondo_fr> hello everyone, this is not a Ubuntu question, but I need someone's help to write me resume in english. I'd be glad if I could find someone to help me.
[08:40] <blake_ubuntu> To check the version open the K menu. You should have there the KDE Control Center or About KDE. Start it to check the KDE version.
[08:41] <skpl> does anyone know anything of the diskmounter script that allows me to put my windows partitions on the desktop?
[08:41] <syahir> hi,anyone can help me?
[08:41] <deefzi> oh FOR THE LOVE OF GOD
[08:41] <deefzi> SUCK MY DONKEYBOOLS >:OO
[08:41] <phoul> is distupgrade doable?
[08:41] <deefzi> great job!
[08:41] <kbrooks> deefzi: language
[08:41] <phoul> Like is it high chance or breakage?
[08:41] <skpl> phoul: i did it without a hitch
[08:41] <syahir> i have problem with mouse
[08:41] <skpl> phoul: twice now
[08:41] <kbrooks> !tell deefzi about language
[08:41] <jadacyrus> this is a dumb question but how do I exit X without the GDM startin up automatically again?
[08:41] <phoul> hmmm
[08:41] <phoul> skpl, pm?
[08:41] <deefzi> kbrooks, yes. as if you would be happy-happy-joyjoy when you've done 2 hours your kernel-config and then end up having nothing
[08:41] <wsjunior> Seveas, still not able to do that.. could u tell me which command should i use?
[08:41] <syahir> ubuntu can't detect my serial port mouse
[08:42] <Tailsfan> How do I change the size of the monitor?
[08:42] <phoul> skpl, can i pm you?
[08:42] <syahir> anyone can help me?
[08:42] <syahir> please
[08:42] <deefzi> kbrooks, scenario: i ran make menuconfig on gnome terminal, then i resized it (accidentally) to too small and make just terminated with: Your display is too small to run Menuconfig!
[08:42] <jenda> syahir: patience. If somebody knows, they'll tell. That's why they're here.
[08:43] <phoul> skpl, can i?
[08:43] <syahir> ok jenda
[08:43] <skpl> phoul,  yes
[08:43] <deefzi> kbrooks, and because of that, it crashed and i lost my config
[08:43] <syahir> last time i use hoary.now i'm using breezy
[08:43] <skpl> does anyone know of a script called diskmounter that mounts my windows partition on boot and puts it on the desktop?
[08:43] <deefzi> oh my lap-dancing jesus in a dress >:I
[08:44] <kbrooks> jenda: online?
[08:44] <deefzi> again from the scratch
[08:44] <jenda> kbrooks: yup. Easyubntu?
[08:44] <blake_ubuntu> can someone help with a sound problem, i have a santa cruz turtle beach sound card and my surround sound wont work, only front speekers work
[08:44] <kbrooks> jenda: BTW i have a picture
[08:45] <crimsun> blake_ubuntu: pastebin the output from ``cat /proc/asound/cards && amixer -c0''
[08:45] <kbrooks> i sent it toi myself from school
[08:45] <jenda> kbrooks: of what?
[08:45] <kbrooks> jenda: of me
[08:45] <jenda> kbrooks: let's go to #easyubuntu-dev
[08:45] <kbrooks> OK
[08:45] <Impi> Quick question... Is the a local south african ubuntu repository?
[08:45] <Grymling> #ubunto
[08:45] <Tailsfan> !ubotu monitors
[08:45] <ubotu> Tailsfan: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:46] <syahir> last time,when i use hoary version, i just configure the xserver to detect serial mouse
[08:46] <jenda> !monitors
[08:46] <skpl> does anyone know of a script called diskmounter that mounts my windows partition on boot and puts it on the desktop?
[08:46] <roryy> Impi: i think IS might host one
[08:46] <syahir> but,in breezy it not detect
[08:46] <jenda> skpl: have a look at easylinux.info
[08:46] <syahir> but,in breezy does not detect
[08:46] <Tailsfan> and where is the command line
[08:46] <roryy> Impi: do a 'dig za.archive.ubuntu.com' at the command prompt -- I get *.is.co.za hits
[08:46] <blake_ubuntu> skpl, just move the data on to your unix box
[08:47] <Impi> Thanx roryy
[08:47] <syahir> jenda,can u help me please :D
[08:48] <skpl> blake_ubuntu, i prefer duel boot
[08:48] <skpl> which brings up another question i have, for some reason my grub boot loader dissapeared and my computer auto-booted into ubuntu, does anyone know why this might happen?
[08:48] <kosnick> in synaptic i got both gcc (ver 4:4.0.1-3) and gcc-4.0 (ver 4.0.1-4ubuntu9). Do i have to remove the first one? is there any prob if i do so?
[08:49] <gerhard_> oh man, can anyone help me with my sound? i read all the faqs from ubuntuusers.de but they dont help
[08:49] <jenda> syahir: would love to - but i don't know.
[08:49] <blake_ubuntu> grup-update
[08:49] <kosnick> gerhard_ what is it that you need?
[08:49] <FlannelKing> skpl: it's probably just the menu is hidden
[08:49] <syahir> :) ok.does anyone know?
[08:49] <farous> skpl: perhaps you have an option in grup to autoboot in ubuntu. when you boot the pc press escape will give you the grub menu
[08:49] <jadacyrus> this is a dumb question but how do I exit X without the GDM startin up automatically again?
[08:49] <roryy> kosnick: i'd just leave that all alone -- gcc depends on gcc-4.0 and cpp
[08:49] <gerhard_> kosnick, i have no sound at all, nowhere
[08:50] <skpl> FlannelKing, how do i bring it back up?
[08:50] <kosnick> roryy : ok i m not touching it...
[08:50] <skpl> farous, how do i change it back?
[08:50] <farous> skpl: just edit the file /boot/grub/menu.list
[08:50] <tonyyarusso> I need some help fixing X.  I have some xorg.conf backups that will fail completely, some that will start, but give a hashed, fuzzy, useless display, and one that will show up fine but lock up if I try to switch to console.
[08:50] <`Manuel`> hi all
[08:50] <kosnick> gerhard_ : when i first installed ubuntu got no sound at all either. I had to install the codes about sound and video. Is this maybe the same thing for you?
[08:50] <skpl> farous, what should it look like?
[08:50] <gerhard_> i dont know!
[08:51] <gerhard_> which codecs did you install?
[08:51] <kosnick> gerhard_ : just a sec to find the ubuntu forum to show you ....
[08:51] <gerhard_> yes thx
[08:51] <Tailsfan> How do I change the monitor size?
[08:51] <farous> skple file name is /boot/grub/menu.lst open it there are comments there to tell you what you need to do give me a min too to give you the exact part you need to change
[08:51] <skpl> can someone tell me how to get rid of all the kde items in my gnome menus after i installed kde and then de-installed?
[08:52] <skpl> farous, okie dokie
[08:52] <`Manuel`> what I must install for inclue library like stdio.h or unistd.h ?
[08:52] <kosnick> gerhard_ : check this out http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch03.html#sect-music-and-movies
[08:52] <syahir> gerhard,can u help me?
[08:52] <imvista> i want to backup wiki with 'wget', but wget returns files which without .html extension, what can i do?
[08:52] <crimsun> `Manuel`: build-essential
[08:52] <crimsun> `Manuel`: more specifically, libc6-dev, but you want build-essential
[08:52] <skpl> farous, according to my menu.lst it is not hidden
[08:52] <farous> skpl: uncomment the line hiddenmenu at the start of the file
[08:52] <`Manuel`> crisum: tnx, now I can try wit aptitude
[08:52] <gerhard_> kosnick, thx, but I can watch movies (without sound)
[08:52] <farous> how aobut the timeout
[08:52] <crimsun> blake_ubuntu: did you ever pastebin what I asked for?
[08:52] <skpl> farous, uncomment it? why? i do not want it hidden
[08:53] <skpl> can someone tell me how to get rid of all the kde items in my gnome menus after i installed kde and then de-installed?
[08:53] <imvista> need...HELP
[08:53] <syahir> kosnick,can u help me
[08:53] <kosnick> syahir : just a sec
[08:53] <kosnick> gerhard_ : maybe you got no codecs for sound then
[08:54] <kosnick> syahir: go ahead , maybe
[08:54] <syahir> yups
[08:54] <imvista> HHEELLPPP!!!I want to backup wiki with 'wget', but wget returns files which without .html extension, what can i do?
[08:54] <syahir> my ubuntu doesn't detect my serial mouse
[08:55] <skpl> can someone tell me how to get rid of all the kde items in my gnome menus after i installed kde and then de-installed?
[08:55] <syahir> now,i'm using breezy version
[08:55] <kosnick> syahir : sorry haven't met that prob before , can't help you
[08:55] <blake_ubuntu> crimsun, what does paste bin mean?
[08:55] <crimsun> !pastebin
[08:55] <ubotu> pastebin is probably http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[08:55] <blake_ubuntu> so i dont flood the room
[08:55] <hari> Hi
[08:55] <Tailsfan> !commandline
[08:55] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Tailsfan
[08:56] <_jason> ubotu: tell Tailsfan about cli
[08:56] <MonsieurBon> what do I have to install to compile a java-programm with javac?
[08:56] <hari> Can u tell me if  I can have java in ubuntu??
[08:56] <_jason> ubotu: tell hari about javadebs
[08:57] <MonsieurBon> ubotu: tell MonsieurBon about javadebs
[08:57] <`Manuel`> crimsun, tnx a lot for information :) now I can start programming under ubuntu
[08:57] <blake_ubuntu> crimsun, posted
[08:57] <immolo> imvista, the wiki is written in php not html
[08:57] <farous> skpl: did you try update menu. the dirty way is to do it by hand. I do not think the de-installation was thorough so check if you did it properly. Finally someitmes you just need to reboot to change the display manager kdm and gdm and to restartx to get rid of other stuff. So bottom line check you deinstalled everything reboot
[08:58] <N2DIY> Three hours later, and I finely got the live CD working with a USB mouse. Does the install CD have more apps. than the live CD?
[08:58] <syahir> anyone can solve my problem please....
[08:58] <imvista> immolo, yes
[08:58] <pianoboy3333> how do I tell synaptic never to upgrade a specific package?
[08:58] <skpl> farous,  thank you, any idea on why my grub menu is not showing up?
[08:58] <mirak> is there a way to prevent firestarter and iptables from polluting the logs and the console ?
[08:58] <immolo> imvista, so you won't download htmll files
[08:58] <imvista> immolo, but i'd like to... save them all in html files or ... similar ones
[08:58] <Tailsfan> How long does it take for k3b to install with a Live CD?
[08:58] <farous> skpl: sorry no idea check the file to see if you have multiple items in it is the only thing i can think of now
[08:58] <imvista> immolo, i can use other tools to do so under windows...
[08:58] <lamego> N2DIY, you can always install more applications later if you have a network connection
[08:59] <KenSentMe> good evening
[08:59] <immolo> imvista, I don't use windows so I can't help you but wget should be able to staticly download the files so you can view them in firefox
[08:59] <mwe> pianoboy3333: package->lock version?
[09:00] <imvista> immolo, you mean only through firefox?
[09:00] <N2DIY> This box isn't networked yet, I'll do an install and have a look around.
[09:00] <pianoboy3333> mwe: thank you
[09:00] <tonyyarusso> I need some help fixing X.  I have some xorg.conf backups that will fail completely, some that will start, but give a hashed, fuzzy, out of sync, useless display, and one that will show up fine but lock up if I try to switch to console.
[09:01] <immolo> imvista, replace firefox with web browser
[09:01] <MetaMorfoziS>  /join #mysql
[09:01] <FlannelKing> imvista: no, through any browser.  Just rename them after you download them (append .html)
[09:01] <MetaMorfoziS> hopp
[09:01] <tonyyarusso> imvista: You're looking to make a local copy of the wiki?  Can I pm you about that?
[09:01] <FlannelKing> imvista: you can do it in one command with rename.  check the man page (it gives an example just like this)
[09:01] <Tailsfan> Is the terminal the place you put the sudo commands?
[09:02] <tonyyarusso> imvista: (I have a conversation about how to do that from before that I could give you a copy of.)
[09:02] <bh4tw> hi,why cant i add vga mode to grub? i tried installing grub2 but the screen still goes blank
[09:02] <imvista> pm me?
[09:02] <KenSentMe> Tailsfan, yes it is
[09:02] <Tailsfan> K
[09:02] <imvista> ok
[09:02] <tonyyarusso> imvista: Ohp, never mind, you're not registered.
[09:02] <skpl> farous, the only thing i have done is i added a splashimage command, for a theme i downloaded off gnomelook.org, but i have done that before and never had a problem
[09:02] <tonyyarusso> wisitvenita: You can join #tonyyarusso instead.
[09:02] <mirak> is there a way to prevent firestarter and iptables from polluting the logs and the console ?
[09:03] <MonsieurBon> what do I have to install to compile a java-programm with javac in the console?
[09:03] <mirak> is there a way to disable iptable logs to console ?
[09:03] <Tailsfan> Well, is there a sudo command to change the monitor size?
[09:03] <tonyyarusso> That goes for anyone else that wants to make a local copy of the wiki too --> #tonyyarusso
[09:03] <bh4tw> mirak, use kdesu instead of sudo
[09:03] <mirak> bh4tw: ?
[09:03] <bh4tw> nvm
[09:04] <mabus06> what's the command line way to untar a file?
[09:04] <KenSentMe> mabus06, tar -zxvf filename
[09:04] <mirak> is there a way to disable iptable logs to console ?
[09:04] <sfar> is it possible to set a timer that will remind me of something at a certain time? :)
[09:04] <wisitvenita> wisitvenita is imvista
[09:04] <blake_ubuntu> tar -zxvf file.tar.gz
[09:05] <blake_ubuntu> man tar
[09:05] <blake_ubuntu> for other tar filetypes
[09:05] <KenSentMe> Tailsfan, do you mean change the resolution?
[09:05] <Tailsfan> Yes
[09:05] <Tailsfan> as in like to 1024x768 for example
[09:05] <skpl> what is the command to unzip a gzip file?
[09:05] <_jason> skpl: gunzip
[09:06] <someoneuseless> Hi @ll
[09:06] <KenSentMe> Tailsfan, you can do that through the menu, System --> Resolution (or something like that, i only know the dutch names)
[09:06] <majd_> hey
[09:06] <majd_> does anyone have the VistaBut GTK theme?
[09:06] <majd_> the download link doesn't work
[09:06] <someoneuseless> anyone using synfig here???
[09:07] <Tailsfan> I see it now, Thanks
[09:07] <KenSentMe> Tailsfan, it's in preferences
[09:07] <KenSentMe> Tailsfan, not system i think
[09:07] <KenSentMe> Tailsfan, but you already found it
[09:08] <someoneuseless> Synfig Users Here?
[09:09] <swa> Question:  I've installed the latest 8756 for my nvidia setup (running Dapper on an AMD 64 X2).  Everything seems alright, but I can't tell if SLI is enabled.  I have two 7800 GTX's installed.  Anyone familiar on how to check and make sure SLI is working?
[09:09] <xbox_sky> Hi! I'm not in the best mood... for some *ret* reason I can't view/open/extract 2 tar/gzip files, I had em stored on another hdd, and a few minutes ago I ftp'd files - to my primary pc hdd, I can't view/extract/open the tars "an error occured" , any suggestions?
[09:09] <Tailsfan> K Changed it
[09:09] <xbox_sky> is this a problem related to "ubuntu"?
[09:09] <xbox_sky> bug?
[09:09] <someoneuseless> no
[09:10] <someoneuseless> leave pls
[09:10] <someoneuseless> ;p
[09:10] <KenSentMe> xbox_sky, can u open them as root, by using sudo?
[09:10] <mwe> xbox_sky: how are you doing it?
[09:10] <jenda> someoneuseless: please...
[09:10] <jenda> hello benoy
[09:10] <roryy> if you use a comand-line ftp client, maybe you need to specify 'binary' or 'image' mode
[09:10] <gmp> a
[09:10] <mwe> xbox_sky: does it just say "an error ocurred"?
[09:10] <xbox_sky> First I tried to view/extract/open them with my GUI (KDE) and it took several minutes until ark finally gave up by telling me "unknown error occured"
[09:11] <xbox_sky> you mean like sudo tar xvz ?
[09:11] <jenda> benoy: teh thing is, that in #ubuntuforums, they'll tell you automatix is OK, and here most will tell you not to use it.
[09:11] <roryy> swa: is SLI the same as 3D acceleration?
[09:11] <xbox_sky> mwe, let me re-check
[09:11] <Impi> lirc is giving me a real headache, i tried virtually everything on ubuntu forums and nothing seems to work, any ideas?
[09:11] <jenda> benoy: it is a dayly issue here.
[09:11] <kevinz> hello. Dapper installer cannot find out partitions on my HD and I don't want to format the whole disk, so I cannot proceed. On the other hand PartitionMagic under MS Win tells that some disk has overlapping error, although both windows and breezy runs without problem. I wonder if I can make dapper installer work or fix the partition problem under linux?
[09:11] <swa> roryy, SLI is when you have 2 identical video cards, 1 in each PCIe x16 slot and you bridge them together so they split the load for graphics processing.
[09:12] <wisitvenita> tonyyarusso....
[09:12] <rio> if you have flash plugin installed you just have to look at this, this is totally hilarious. http://youtube.com/watch?v=eXp397pEP2g&search=manson%20vs%20trump
[09:12] <roryy> swa: ah. i am green with envy. Sorry, no idea how to check that. maybe 'glxinfo' says something useful?
[09:12] <xbox_sky> Hexic.tar.gz (trying with ark GUI - kde) nothing happens for a few minutes which is weird, then ark pops up "An error occurred while trying to open the archive "
[09:13] <someoneuseless> i think SLI is more related to the chipset  then to the card driver
[09:13] <xbox_sky> i've tried to tar extract them in console mode, nothign happens
[09:13] <Tailsfan> I prefer The Clock Crew
[09:13] <KenSentMe> xbox_sky, try opening it using sudo tar -zxvf Hexic.tar.gz
[09:13] <KenSentMe> xbox_sky, sorry, too late
[09:13] <tonyyarusso> wisitvenita: I know, it's a lot.
[09:14] <Grymling> well here I am, with my disk stuffed with pics and docs in NTFS......in windows xp pro. How do I convert ?
[09:14] <roryy> or just 'gzip -tv Hexic.tar.gz' to test the gzip compression
[09:14] <mandingo> send all your stuff to a gmail account
[09:14] <mandingo> or multiple ones
[09:14] <deefzi> do i have to patch the "nvnet"-driver to my kernel in order to get my nforce2 integrated ethernet-card working or is there an option in make menuconfig, where i could toggle it on?
[09:15] <Doomhammer> so who's using dapper ?
[09:15] <kevinz> how to solve partition problems under linux generally?
[09:15] <xbox_sky> gzip: Hexic.tar.gz: not in gzip format
[09:15] <roryy> Doomhammer: people in #ubuntu+1
[09:15] <Tailsfan> Doom, Please discuss DD in #ubuntu+1
[09:15] <tonyyarusso> wisitvenita: I *think* it boils down to something along the lines of 'wget --force-html --no-check-certificate --convert-links --mirror https://wiki.ubuntu.com', but I'd have to read through all of that to be sure that's what worked.
[09:15] <Doomhammer> ah right... sorry :)
[09:15] <Sionide> +1 heh
[09:15] <_jason> xbox_sky: then it's not in gzip format
[09:15] <roryy> xbox_sky: how did you transfer the file? command-line ftp client?
[09:15] <xbox_sky> no a GUI ftp - gftp
[09:16] <_jason> there must be some option for the transfer mode
[09:16] <xbox_sky> evry other file works, except these 2 big tar files
[09:16] <Grymling> mandingo. I have about 800Gb of familypics
[09:16] <method|> hwo can I change the login screen in gnome?
[09:16] <roryy> xbox_sky: did these other files include smaller tar.gz files ?
[09:16] <xbox_sky> both of them are in x.tar.gz
[09:16] <dendrobates> hi ppl
[09:16] <dendrobates> respect
[09:16] <KenSentMe> dendrobates, respect 2 u 2 man
[09:17] <mandingo> how the hell do you have 800G of family photos
[09:17] <mandingo> thats insane
[09:17] <xbox_sky> rory, my other hdd had 3 folders with several tar files  and 2 big tar files outside the folder location
[09:17] <method|> how can I change the login screen in gnome?
[09:17] <KenSentMe> how big is your family ?
[09:17] <dendrobates> can anyone tell me about a WiFi PCMCIA card?
[09:17] <mandingo> big.
[09:17] <KenSentMe> dendrobates, what do you want to know?
[09:17] <Grymling> *L* that would be Mb sorry
[09:17] <KenSentMe> Grymling, lol
[09:17] <roryy> xbox_sky: i'd suggest try transferring the files again
[09:18] <dendrobates> a tested model on Ubuntu
[09:18] <Grymling> talk about THE familyman
[09:18] <xbox_sky> ok
[09:18] <roryy> xbox_sky: are both machines running ubuntu?
[09:18] <KenSentMe> dendrobates, i'm using a wireless pcmcia card right now
[09:18] <mandingo> dude, send your files to gmail
[09:19] <xbox_sky> rory the other hdd was an external one, no os specified
[09:19] <mandingo> thats 2.7G of space that will basically always be there
[09:19] <xbox_sky> 20 seconds remaining until first tar is on my pc hdd
[09:19] <roryy> xbox_sky: but you ftp'ed to a computer ... ?
[09:19] <tonyyarusso> I need help fixing X.  I have some xorg.conf backups that will fail completely, some that will start, but give hashed, fuzzy, out of sync, useless display, and one that will show up fine but lock up if I try to switch to console.
[09:19] <dendrobates> KenSentMe, can u give me the model and manufacturer?
[09:19] <KenSentMe> dendrobates, the manufacturer is asus
[09:19] <dendrobates> asus, very nice
[09:20] <xbox_sky> roryy, yeah sort of, but nvm that, trust me this "hdd" can store different files despite os restrictions
[09:20] <KenSentMe> dendrobates, model can't see, unless i take it out and loose my connenction :p
[09:20] <kevor> Hi, how can i mount an ftpdrive? tried lufs ( lufsmount ftpfs://site.com destdir/ ) but that's not working
[09:20] <supertux> is there an expected date for flight 7?
[09:20] <xbox_sky> ok i'm trying to open up the first tar
[09:20] <KenSentMe> it's the model that advertises for using linux drivers
[09:20] <EnterUserName> Is Gigabyte better than asus :)
[09:20] <roryy> tonyyarusso: you're aware of 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' ?
[09:21] <EnterUserName> i think the best ubuntu sudo command is the following
[09:21] <dendrobates> KenSentMe, no problem dont go down
[09:21] <EnterUserName> sudo bash
[09:21] <xbox_sky> same thing "An error occurred while trying to open the archive "
[09:21] <apoc> can anyone help me install wine?
[09:21] <KenSentMe> dendrobates, WL-107g
[09:21] <tonyyarusso> roryy: Yep.  Been through it at least a dozen times - never produces something that works.
[09:21] <roryy> tonyyarusso: d'oh
[09:21] <KenSentMe> dendrobates, http://www.asus.nl/products4.aspx?l1=12&l2=42&l3=135&model=52&modelmenu=1
[09:21] <katz0r> hi all, is there a guide on crosscompiling gtk(mm) apps for win?
[09:21] <KenSentMe> dendrobates, dutch website
[09:22] <dendrobates> hmmm you r very kind, KenSentMe
[09:22] <KenSentMe> dendrobates, i know :p
[09:22] <EnterUserName> sudo bash is just like loggin in as root :)
[09:22] <tonyyarusso> roryy: That was pretty much my sentiment.
[09:22] <p47> Hello someone kwnos how to install AA in  X Radeon?
[09:22] <roryy> EnterUserName: we recommend 'sudo -i' instead
[09:22] <EnterUserName> hmm
[09:22] <tonyyarusso> roryy: How could an xorg.conf that worked before not work now?  I copied back in the most recent backup, and nothing.
[09:23] <EnterUserName> whats sudo -i.. i'll look into th at :)
[09:23] <xbox_sky> is there a way to force mode something so I can view/extract my tar files?
[09:23] <dendrobates> KenSentMe, sorry I m redundant today
[09:23] <katz0r> p47, jou should be fine with just using the installer
[09:23] <EnterUserName> its not in the man page
[09:23] <stefano> come faccio ad installare uno scanner mustek u
[09:23] <EnterUserName> whats sudo -i?
[09:24] <_jason> EnterUserName: it's there (in man sudo) :)
[09:24] <trappist> EnterUserName: it's there
[09:24] <trappist> right after -h
[09:24] <EnterUserName> maybe mins old
[09:24] <roryy> tonyyarusso: (1) something else changed, or (2) it's not the file that worked before.  Computers aren't magic ;).  Sorry, I know I'm not helping.
[09:24] <mabus06> can somebody help me get my microphone working? I turned up the volume and unmuted capture, but it still isn't making a sound. The same mic has worked on ubuntu before.
[09:24] <katz0r> is there a guide on crosscompiling gtk(mm) apps for win?
[09:24] <_jason> EnterUserName: type /-i and press enter followed by n
[09:24] <mandingo> try file ****.tar.gz
[09:24] <mandingo> on the filename
[09:24] <EnterUserName> yes i did
[09:24] <dendrobates> KenSentMe, are you working on Ubuntu?
[09:25] <roryy> -i is a little new; I know my older redhat box doesn't have 'sudo -i'
[09:25] <EnterUserName> im using an old version im updating now..
[09:25] <_jason> ah
[09:25] <EnterUserName> I'm not using ubuntu :)
[09:25] <tonyyarusso> roryy: Do you at least have a clue what part might be wrong in the ones that produce the funny hashed display, but at least starts?  I can't see anything, but it comes up, so maybe I can work from there.
[09:25] <EnterUserName> i use it at work now (they decided to go to the dark side)
[09:25] <EnterUserName> heheh
[09:25] <_jason> EnterUserName: debian?
[09:25] <EnterUserName> no
[09:25] <EnterUserName> ubuntu
[09:25] <EnterUserName> is the dark side :)
[09:25] <dendrobates> KenSentMe, Red Hat?
[09:25] <_jason> EnterUserName: no, I meant what are you using now?
[09:25] <trappist> EnterUserName: information like that would be appreciated up front, before we waste a lot of time tracking down non-ubuntu issues
[09:25] <EnterUserName> oh sorry :)
[09:25] <EnterUserName> well it wasnt an issue
[09:26] <EnterUserName> it was more of a comment :)
[09:26] <roryy> tonyyarusso: hrm. sorry, no.  You've looked in /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[09:26] <EnterUserName> I use Gentoo/ARchLinux/Suse
[09:26] <tonyyarusso> roryy: Good point, no.
[09:26] <EnterUserName> I don't know ubuntu enuff yet to say if its better :)
[09:26] <xbox_sky> can i convert tar to something else like rar?
[09:26] <mandingo> xbox_sky: did you get the file to open?
[09:26] <trappist> xbox_sky: not without untarring it
[09:26] <KenSentMe> dendrobates, i didn't use the included drivers, ubuntu recognised the card immediately
[09:26] <fraxtal> I have had ubuntu installed for 2 days and I managed to screw it up already
[09:26] <p47> someone kwos someting about antileasing on ATI ?
[09:26] <dendrobates> gk, SuSe is ok for this WL-
[09:27] <tonyyarusso> roryy: Oh my that's a long file!
[09:27] <trappist> p47: you mean antialiasing?
[09:27] <xbox_sky> mandingo, nope same error, I seee trappist
[09:27] <mandingo> did you try what i said?
[09:27] <mandingo> type file and the filename
[09:27] <roryy> tonyyarusso: yeah. Errors and warnings are specially marked, though; (EE) and (WW) iirc
[09:27] <KenSentMe> dendrobates, by seeing red hat i thought, ok this works in linux
[09:27] <mandingo> it will tell you what the file is
[09:27] <tonyyarusso> roryy: Grepping now, cap'n.
[09:27] <mandingo> file camo.png
[09:27] <mandingo> camo.png: PNG image data, 256 x 256, 8-bit/color RGB, non-interlaced
[09:28] <xbox_sky> mandingo
[09:28] <xbox_sky> back.tar.gz: data
[09:28] <xbox_sky> that's what file said
[09:28] <mandingo> hm
[09:28] <dendrobates> KenSentMe, respect man
[09:28] <dendrobates> thanks a lot
[09:28] <p47> trappist: yes antialiasing !
[09:28] <mandingo> are there md5sums available on the server you got the file from?
[09:28] <dwight> anyone know where i can find a delicious extension/plugin for epiphany-browser?
[09:28] <p47> trappist: do you know someting about that ?
[09:29] <tonyyarusso> roryy: Lots of warnings.
[09:29] <dendrobates> e-mail me when you come to CH hmartinez@postmaster.co.uk
[09:29] <trappist> p47: no
[09:29] <dendrobates> KenSentMe
[09:29] <KenSentMe> dendrobates, yes
[09:29] <mwe> roryy: in that case sudo su works
[09:29] <p47> trappist: mm Ok Thank's !
[09:29] <dendrobates> where are you now?
[09:29] <dendrobates> KenSentMe
[09:29] <roryy> mwe: for 'sudo -i' ? I believe (though I may be wrong) that there are differences
[09:29] <Obst> warthy hoary breezy -whats the difference?
[09:30] <xbox_sky> mandingo nope, I tar'd the files my self, for backup purpose, and now when I want to ftp to my pc, well you know the rest
[09:30] <KenSentMe> dendrobates, what do you mean?
[09:30] <EnterUserName> sudo su works
[09:30] <EnterUserName> kewl :)
[09:30] <KenSentMe> dendrobates, at home, in the netherlands
[09:30] <dendrobates> are u in nl?
[09:30] <mwe> roryy: there is not. sudo -s resembles sudo su. sudo -i resembles sudo su -
[09:30] <KenSentMe> dendrobates, yes
[09:30] <mandingo> so they're store on your other machine?
[09:30] <mandingo> can that machine open the files?
[09:30] <dendrobates> ok man c ya
[09:30] <tonyyarusso> roryy: I'll pastebin it as soon as I can get it retyped.
[09:31] <mwe> roryy: sudo su - will give you a root prompt and read roots configuration as will sudo -i
[09:31] <xbox_sky> mandingo sorry no
[09:31] <apoc> can anyone help me install wine?
[09:31] <KenSentMe> dendrobates, you know where i live then? :)
[09:31] <mwe> apoc: sudo apt-get install wine
[09:31] <roryy> mwe: thanks, i'll remember that.  Hopefully that old box will be retired soonish anyway ;)
[09:32] <root_> what is the dapper channel ?
[09:32] <mwe> apoc: be awere that only a tiny fraction of all windows programs actually works though
[09:32] <KenSentMe> root_, ubuntu+1
[09:32] <kevinz> i get error from "fdisk -l" as "Partition N does not end on cylinder boundary." Am I hopeless ...?
[09:32] <root_> hmm.. root_ doesn't reveal too much I hope :))
[09:32] <apoc> mwe: wat works?
[09:32] <KenSentMe> root_, sorry, wrong info
[09:33] <xbox_sky> I have windows on vmware, should I try to view tar on windows 2000 (vmware)?
[09:33] <mwe> apoc: notepad for example
[09:33] <patrick52222> i need to enable tvout so i can use my projector how do i do this its a nvidia card
[09:34] <dendrobates> KenSentMe, nl, not anymore
[09:34] <KenSentMe> dendrobates, ah, k
[09:35] <patrick52222> i need an easy way to enable tvout, im using the drivers off the nvidia site
[09:35] <john__> is there an easy install for vpn in ubuntu?  I am running it in a virtual machine right now, but do not see vpn support...
[09:35] <EnterUserName> hey is there a UBuntu Certification from LPI?
[09:35] <EnterUserName> Or is it totally seperatE?
[09:35] <mwe> apoc: frankscorner.org has some examples as well. most of those programs need a specific version of wine though
[09:36] <asdf25> so i just installed a lot of KDE stuff, and now i'm using GNOME and GTK has a kde-ish theme, anyone know what i do to change that back?
[09:36] <xbox_sky> mandingo any ideas dude :/ ?
[09:36] <apoc> mwe: how do i run it?
[09:36] <mwe> apoc: wine notepad.exe
[09:36] <mwe> apoc: in a terminal
[09:36] <mandingo> well, i'd make sure all the bits were transfered and you did it in binary
[09:36] <else> can anyone help me with wine?
[09:37] <patrick52222> anybody
[09:37] <mwe> apoc: or wine whatever.exe
[09:37] <john__> vpn in ubuntu, how?
[09:37] <KenSentMe> when i configure my server on a pentium 3 machine, is it possible to use this hd in an other machine with amd proc?
[09:37] <Jimmey__> My problem is: I can't get ET to work all that nicely on an intel 855GM graphics chipset. Something to do with the resolution.
[09:37] <john__> anyone know?
[09:37] <Springishere> gotta go to the directory through terminal wine dude
[09:37] <xbox_sky> mandingo how do I do that if I might ask?
[09:37] <patrick52222> anybody
[09:37] <else> can anyone help me with wine?
[09:37] <mwe> else: possibly if you tell us what the problem is
[09:37] <patrick52222> i need an easy way to enable tvout, im using the drivers off the nvidia site
[09:37] <KenSentMe> john__, check wiki.ubuntu.com
[09:37] <mwe> else: possibly if you tell us what the problem is
[09:37] <KenSentMe> john__, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OpenVPNClientMiniHowto
[09:37] <mandingo> uh, make sure the filesize on disk is exactly the same
[09:37] <else> well, i got wine installed just fine, but when i try to run an app i just get a black screen
[09:38] <john__> thanks, kensetme
[09:38] <xbox_sky> they are
[09:38] <Springishere> hmmm
[09:38] <Springishere> which wine?
[09:38] <mwe> else: most programs don't work with wine
[09:38] <mandingo> and get an md5 sum app for windows if they're stored on windows
[09:38] <mandingo> brb
[09:38] <pashminet> Double_D!!
[09:38] <Springishere> md5 sum app?
[09:38] <else> hmm
[09:38] <Jimmey__> How can I fiddle with X to change the resolution, so that I might possible be able to play this game?
[09:38] <jenda> mwe: depends on teh brand and amount of wine, but my experience says that after about half a bottle or more, no program works fine except teh screensaver
[09:38] <else> but still
[09:38] <wisitvenita> wisitvenita
[09:39] <tonyyarusso> roryy: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12109 - could you take a look?
[09:39] <Springishere> my xwine crashes everytime i try to run a program
[09:39] <mwe> else: what program is it?
[09:39] <else> i suspect the rpoblem is me not knowing how to set it up proberly
[09:39] <roryy> tonyyarusso: i hope you are not perceiving me as an X guru. i'll take a look, but promise nothing.
[09:39] <else> ufo gold :)
[09:39] <pashminet> ok, could someone please explain why the live cd doesn't boot in my computer?
[09:39] <Double_D> pashminet: i thougth of something else, actually.
[09:39] <K-Rich> hey guys, i hooked my sis up with ubuntu, she likes it better than windows (yay) but... when she starts evolution the wizard pops up but she can't hit next on the first screen, it freezes, i had her reinstall it with apt-get, and had her rm -rf ~/.evolution then shutdown gconftool and rm -rf ~/.gconf/apps/evolution, then had her remove evolution-exchance and it still doesn't work after loging out and back in .... here is what debug info is http://past
[09:40] <tobywuk> hello
[09:40] <Double_D> pashminet: some of those CD burning programs require that specify you're burning a boot disc.
[09:40] <tonyyarusso> roryy: Well, you're all I've got at the moment it seems.
[09:40] <pashminet> Double_D: i never thought of that!!!
[09:40] <john__> does ubuntu have a cross platform remote desktop, like vnc or radmin?
[09:40] <KenSentMe> does anyone know if a can use a system set up in a pentium system in a amd machine?
[09:40] <mwe> else: a game?
[09:40] <mlehrer> you mean like apt-get install vlc
[09:40] <Double_D> pashminet: like in Nero, for instance, you would actually have to burn a 'boot disc' rather than just a 'data disc.'
[09:40] <roryy> tonyyarusso: did X ever work properly? i.e., pre fglrx driver installation?
[09:40] <else> mwe: yes
[09:40] <Double_D> pashminet: hope that'll do the trick.
[09:40] <Springishere> Which is the best Linux version?
[09:40] <mlehrer> KenSentMe: it should work fine, especially if it is an amd64
[09:40] <pashminet> Double_D: i love you! now i will try! thanks!
[09:40] <mwe> else: very few games work with wine
[09:40] <mlehrer> Springishere: caldera linux
[09:41] <tonyyarusso> roryy: It has in the past worked with all three drivers, ati, radeon, and fglrx.  But now none of those xorg.confs seem to work.
[09:41] <Springishere> ok
[09:41] <ompaul> mlehrer, now do that again, this time without the joke
[09:41] <Double_D> pashminet: i aim to please :D
[09:41] <mlehrer> Springishere: just kidding
[09:41] <Springishere> ...
[09:41] <Springishere> evil...
[09:41] <KenSentMe> mlehrer, ah, cool that way i can keep my current mailserver running
[09:41] <bheung> Springishere: what do you want to do with linux?
[09:41] <else> mwe: ok :C
[09:41] <mlehrer> if you are asking in the Ubuntu channel, of course the answer will be ubuntu
[09:42] <Springishere> Just user friendly, and programming
[09:42] <mwe> else: check out frankscorner.org
[09:42] <ompaul> Springishere, you are in a #ubuntu channel so tell me what do you expect?
[09:42] <Springishere> lol
[09:42] <Springishere> true...
[09:42] <else> ok will do.
[09:42] <roryy> tonyyarusso: any possiblity of a hardware bug? dust collecting in connectors etc ?
[09:42] <tonyyarusso> roryy: Maybe?  It worked earlier today.
[09:43] <john__> does ubuntu have a cross platform remote desktop, like vnc or radmin?
[09:43] <void^> more likely fglrx infestation of xorg libs.
[09:43] <K-Rich> hey guys, i hooked my sis up with ubuntu, she likes it better than windows (yay) but... when she starts evolution the wizard pops up but she can't hit next on the first screen, it freezes, i had her reinstall it with apt-get, and had her rm -rf ~/.evolution then shutdown gconftool and rm -rf ~/.gconf/apps/evolution, then had her remove evolution-exchance and it still doesn't work after loging out and back in .... here is what debug info is http://past
[09:43] <tonyyarusso> void^: Can you expand on that at all?
[09:44] <void^> ati replaces libGL.so with their own version
[09:44] <tonyyarusso> void^: Do you know a fix?
[09:44] <spinelli> What is grub error 2?
[09:44] <void^> see if gl and dri extensions are disabled in your conf
[09:44] <else> mwe: i see there is a list of the games actually working....bummer, thought is was a little more flexible :\
[09:45] <john__> does ubuntu have a cross platform remote desktop, like vnc or radmin?
[09:45] <void^> john__: vnc, nx, rdesktop client
[09:45] <mwe> else: unfortunately not. and most require that you install a specific version of wine
[09:46] <john__> how to get?  sudo apt-get install vnc ?
[09:46] <else> mwe: ok, thx for the help.
[09:46] <mwe> else: yw
[09:46] <void^> void^: you can also use an X server on windows (cygwin) and remote in with it
[09:46] <mlehrer> john__: i am not sure which area has vnc, but you may have to enable the universe or multiverse
[09:46] <void^> eh, john__
[09:47] <tonyyarusso> void^: I don't think I know how to do that - how can I check those extensions?
[09:47] <skpl> can someone tell me where icon themes are saved?
[09:47] <tonyyarusso> void^: Can I replace that file with the original by reinstalling something?
[09:47] <spinelli> Does anyone know what grub error 2 means?
[09:47] <patrick52222> i have the nvidia site drivers, but i need to setup tvout how do i do this
[09:47] <asdf25> skpl: somewhere in /usr/share/themes probably
[09:47] <swa> noob question:  how do I install *.deb files?
[09:48] <void^> tonyyarusso: i just mean it might help to comment out 'Load "glx"' and 'Load "dri"' in your xorg.conf
[09:48] <asdf25> swa: sudo dpkg -i package.deb
[09:48] <swa> asdf25, thanks
[09:48] <Slagerij> dpkg
[09:48] <tonyyarusso> void^: Ah.  What are those, and what are they for?  Is there any way to revert so I can use them okay?
[09:49] <roryy> patrick52222: google reveals this? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NvidiaTVOut
[09:49] <KenSentMe> spinelli, use google: http://www.linuxselfhelp.com/gnu/grub/html_chapter/grub_13.html
[09:49] <spinelli> thanks
[09:49] <KenSentMe> spinelli, np
[09:49] <PhantZ> incroyable le monde qu il y a ici
[09:50] <K-Rich> hey guys, i hooked my sis up with ubuntu, she likes it better than windows (yay) but... when she starts evolution the wizard pops up but she can't hit next on the first screen, it freezes, i had her reinstall it with apt-get, and had her rm -rf ~/.evolution then shutdown gconftool and rm -rf ~/.gconf/apps/evolution, then had her remove evolution-exchance and it still doesn't work after loging out and back in .... here is what debug info is http://past
[09:50] <tonyyarusso> void^: not that simple apparently.
[09:50] <PhanteZ> this is unbelievable how much many people are ther
[09:50] <PhanteZ> e
[09:50] <jadacyrus> K-Rich: did u try runnin evolution from console to see if it spits anything out
[09:50] <cycus_zwisus> which debian in some way better than ubuntu?
[09:50] <skpl> can someone tell me where icon themes are saved?
[09:51] <K-Rich> jadacyrus: yeah.... nothing
[09:51] <jadacyrus> hmm
[09:51] <BlueSwirl> k-rich: have you tried using thunderbird instead? not a solution, i know.
[09:51] <jadacyrus> well i dont use evolution, im a thunderbird man myself
[09:51] <K-Rich> jadacyrus: i've tried all i can think of :/
[09:51] <jadacyrus> heh
[09:51] <jadacyrus> try running as root and see what happens
[09:51] <BuFF> where is the default folder gor installing gnome-themes ?
[09:51] <CosmoDad> K-Rich: did you check bug reports?
[09:51] <jonathanD_> hello, anyone know how to change the settings on the built in vnc server? i'm trying to open a port on my router to allow me to connect remotely... thanks...
[09:52] <K-Rich> BlueSwirl: that's my next option if i can't get it working.... only issue is she needs a calander
[09:52] <bheung> skpl: /usr/share/icons
[09:52] <jadacyrus> ah
[09:52] <jonathanD_> i would prefer to have this running on port 5900
[09:52] <K-Rich> CosmoDad: yeah, didn't see anything
[09:52] <BlueSwirl> hmm, that is awkward, sunbird isn't really up to scratch at the mo.
[09:52] <K-Rich> BlueSwirl: and i don't think it's in the repos either
[09:53] <jadacyrus> k-rich, you are using breezy i presume?
[09:53] <skpl> can someone tell me why i might have an icon theme installed but it not be in the theme directories?
[09:53] <MystaMax> hello!
[09:53] <K-Rich> jadacyrus: Yeah
[09:53] <BlueSwirl> i installed thunderbird on my ubuntu machine, just using 'add applications'
[09:53] <Rews> hi
[09:53] <Rews> i'm a linux noob
[09:53] <fraxtal> I have added a new group called "subversion".  I added my user to the group.  When I type "groups user" it tells me that the user was added to the group, but when I type "groups" as user, it doesn't show up.  Can anyone tell me what's going on?
[09:54] <Rews> how do we searcch for a file on ubuntu?
[09:54] <K-Rich> fraxtal: did you log out and in again
[09:54] <mwe> Rews: use locate or find in the terminal
[09:54] <CosmoDad> K-Rich: I'd download from source, compile and try that
[09:54] <K-Rich> Rews: Places > Search for file
[09:54] <bheung> skpl: if you installed a deb package, you could always check to see where the files were put
[09:54] <asdf25> Rews: there's also a good GNOME search thing
[09:54] <CosmoDad> K-Rich: or run strace on evolution
[09:54] <K-Rich> Rews: or from terminal 'locate file'
[09:54] <fraxtal> hmm let me try
[09:54] <asdf25> Rews: yep, what that guy said
[09:55] <Rews> ok, i am on the root directory, i type find sources.list
[09:55] <ompaul> Rews, in many different ways, there is a terminal based command called locate there is also a command called find, and there is a program called beagal
[09:55] <Rews> No such file or directory
[09:55] <K-Rich> CosmoDad: will do that when i get there... i'm 22 miles away trying to help lol
[09:55] <CosmoDad> K-Rich: use ssh ;)
[09:55] <KenSentMe> Rews, try locate sources.list
[09:55] <asdf25> is there any reason to use find instead of locate?
[09:55] <ompaul> Rews,  woops  beagal not that but beagle actually
[09:55] <Rews> ok it worked ;)
[09:55] <Rews> thx
[09:55] <mwe> Rews: find / -name 'sources.list' but locate is way faster
[09:55] <Rews> oh ok i see
[09:56] <MystaMax> can you use wildcards in those searches?
[09:56] <asdf25> yeah, find's kind of too slow to be of any use
[09:56] <Rews> i knew i was missing something
[09:56] <mabus06> can somebody help me get my microphone working? I turned up the volume and unmuted capture, but it still isn't making a sound. The same mic has worked on ubuntu before.
[09:56] <CosmoDad> asdf25: find is independent of a database but slower
[09:56] <mwe> Rews: the locate database is only updated once a day though
[09:56] <Rews> ok
[09:56] <CosmoDad> asdf25: waaaaay slower
[09:56] <lamego> is there a channel for dapper support ?
[09:56] <Rews> locate updatedb ?
[09:56] <ompaul> Rews, if you just created the file then you need to update the database
[09:56] <fraxtal> K-Rich, ok that worked.  Is there no other way to do it though?
[09:56] <K-Rich> CosmoDad: good idea
[09:56] <mwe> Rews: so things you just installed wont be found by locate
[09:56] <BlueSwirl> can you manually update the database for locate?
[09:56] <Rews> locate updatedb ?
[09:56] <asdf25> locate -u i think?
[09:56] <BlueSwirl> shiny
[09:56] <ompaul> lamego, ubuntu+1
[09:57] <ompaul> Rews, sudo updatedb << to update the db
[09:57] <xbox_sky> ok tx for your help mandingo and evryone else
[09:57] <skpl> bheung, how do i do that?
[09:57] <MystaMax> anyone using vsftp? if so is it any better than proftpd?
[09:57] <K-Rich> fraxtal: not that i know of
[09:57] <fraxtal> ok thanks
[09:58] <K-Rich> CosmoDad: how can i save the strace evolution results to a file ?
[09:58] <mwe> MystaMax: proftpd is a tough competitor
[09:58] <mwe> MystaMax: don't really know vsftp though
[09:58] <rohan> is there some kind of an "extras" disc that has codecs, ff, and other stuff from it ? kind of like all the stuff automatix installs, available on a cdrom
[09:58] <MystaMax> i wanted to use proftp b/c I found a administration GUI that i could install to manage it
[09:58] <rohan> for breezy ofcourse
[09:59] <K-Rich> CosmoDad: mn i got it
[09:59] <mwe> MystaMax: proftpd is of industrial strength
[09:59] <skpl> MystaMax, what is it called?
[09:59] <bheung> skpl: the easiest way I know, is to open up Synaptic (System -> Administration -> Synaptic) and then find that package... right click and look at the properties
[09:59] <ompaul> !automatix
[09:59] <ubotu> methinks automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[09:59] <ompaul> rohan   ^^^^
[09:59] <bheung> skpl: there might be a command line way too..
[09:59] <MystaMax> hold on let me double check th name
[09:59] <jay_> hi
[09:59] <jay_> im an indian from malaysia
[09:59] <skpl> bheung, actually, even though the icon theme was called debian icons i do not think it was a deb package.
[09:59] <rohan> ompaul: yes, i know automatix breaks boxes. i want to have all the _packages_ it installs from ubuntus own repo, on a iso
[09:59] <rohan> so that on all pcs i put kubuntu / ubuntu disc and the extras disc
[10:00] <rohan> install stuff
[10:00] <rohan> be done
[10:00] <method|> when I try to run gdmsetup i get the following error: Could not access GDM configuration file.
[10:00] <bheung> skpl: how did you install it?/
[10:00] <KenSentMe> i've installed automatix and it workes great on 2 different machines
[10:00] <method|> when i do locate gdm.conf it returns nothing
[10:00] <ompaul> rohan, read the web page wiki.ubuntu.com/restricted and then also /msg ubotu KeyWord and you will get lots of other info
[10:00] <skpl> bheung, from a tarball
[10:00] <bheung> oh
[10:00] <pierre__> bonsoir
[10:00] <rohan> ompaul: i *know* all that, i have been a kubuntu user for a long time ! i am looking for a pre build iso
[10:01] <jay_> hi
[10:01] <ompaul> rohan, then I would use the web pages to find the stuff you want and then script up some config stuff and then lastly save off the .debs and stuff to one site :-)
[10:02] <dwight> anyone know where i can find a delicious extension/plugin for epiphany-browser?
[10:02] <ompaul> rohan, and no I don't know whats in that piece of box breaking
[10:02] <rohan> ompaul: hehe yes, i want someone that has done that already
[10:02] <MystaMax>  skpl: here is the link to the proftp GUI admin
[10:02] <MystaMax> http://proftpd-adm.sourceforge.net
[10:02] <ompaul> rohan, have a look at #easyubuntu might be easy on your brain
[10:02] <tonyyarusso> Did rorry go away?
[10:02] <ompaul> !fr
[10:02] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:02] <ompaul> pierre__, ^^^^
[10:03] <Rews> how do we update ubuntu plz?
[10:03] <Yokalosh> anyone know how to downgrade? i just noticed a whole bunch of errors while upgrading to dapper
[10:03] <Rews> i thought it was apt-get install update
[10:03] <ompaul> Rews, so it is
[10:03] <tonyyarusso> Old Windows habits worked out.  A reboot made my X work.  Go figure.  :S
[10:03] <Rews> it did not tell me that there wher new packets
[10:03] <ompaul> Rews, then sudo apt-get upgrade (and use sudo with the other one)
[10:03] <mwe> MystaMax: did you check out gproftpd as well?
[10:03] <Rews> upgrade...that's it
[10:03] <Rews> thx ;)
[10:04] <MystaMax> mwe: not yet is it in the repositories?
[10:04] <mwe> MystaMax: yeah
[10:04] <Jimmey__> How do I use 855resolution
[10:04] <mwe> MystaMax: in universe
[10:04] <MystaMax> k thanks, i'm looking it up now
[10:05] <skpl> where is a good place to store programs that i install?
[10:05] <skpl> im new to linux, i dunno
[10:05] <KenSentMe> mwe, is it a webbased proftpd admin tool?
[10:05] <MystaMax> kensenme: no its not
[10:06] <KenSentMe> MystaMax, what is it then?
[10:06] <skpl> where is a good place to store programs that i install?
[10:06] <MystaMax> a gnome frontend
[10:06] <mwe> Knorrie: gproftpd? it's gtk+
[10:06] <KenSentMe> MystaMax, ah, k
[10:06] <eml> aint there Eterm for download? oO
[10:06] <KenSentMe> MystaMax, have u tried proftpd-adm?
[10:07] <MystaMax> nope
[10:07] <MystaMax> whats that?
[10:07] <MystaMax> whats the adm?
[10:07] <mabus06> can somebody help me get my microphone working? I turned up the volume and unmuted capture, but it still isn't making a sound. The same mic has worked on ubuntu before.
[10:07] <KenSentMe> MystaMax, you just provided the url
[10:07] <Chocobo> Ok guys.   A friend has a dual boot laptop (Win/Linux) and he wants to make the linux partition bigger.   Using QTparted we shrunk the Windows partition...  but it won't let us "grow" the ext3 filesystem.   Any ideas?
[10:07] <mwe> skpl: most programs will install to some default place in /usr/local or something. keep your personal stuff in ~/bin maybe
[10:07] <MystaMax> oh oh
[10:07] <MystaMax> Kensentme: oh you mean the admin tool
[10:08] <KenSentMe> yeah
[10:08] <skpl> mwe: no ~/bin does not sound good to me
[10:08] <skpl> something else?
[10:08] <MystaMax> not yet, its looking like that'll be my primary choice though
[10:08] <lamego> ChangerOfSea, you can't shrink a partition if it is mounted
[10:08] <ompaul> skpl, well if you do it the easy way you will just install packages
[10:08] <mwe> skpl: why not it's standard
[10:08] <lamego> i mean Chocobo you can't shrink a partition if it is mounted
[10:08] <skpl> mwe: how standard is it? like...VERY standard?
[10:08] <KenSentMe> MystaMax, i wonder if i can configure a decent proftpd-mysql set up with it
[10:08] <Chocobo> lamego, they are not mounted.   Using a livecd.
[10:08] <eml> wth, is there any other terminal  than GNOME terminal?
[10:08] <lamego> hum ok :|
[10:08] <KenSentMe> mine stinks right now
[10:08] <mwe> skpl: very common yes
[10:08] <MystaMax> i found a really good tutorial if you want a link
[10:08] <skpl> ok then i will use it
[10:08] <lamego> emile, xterm
[10:09] <mwe> skpl: not if you need it system wide of course
[10:09] <KenSentMe> MystaMax, i used one, but it doesn't work that well
[10:09] <eml> lamego, any good one? :/ xterm is nono too, either aterm or eterm, i think its a shame that they are not in the sources.list
[10:09] <skpl> nah, it is just a little program that i am gonna use at startup
[10:09] <KenSentMe> MystaMax, what tutorial habe u got?
[10:09] <skpl> an ip redirection update client
[10:09] <Snake__> What are some good blue themes for gnome?
[10:09] <KenSentMe> MystaMax, habe = have
[10:10] <mwe> skpl: well I don't think system programs like boot up scripts belong in ~/bin
[10:10] <lamego> emile, do you have universe/multiverse sources enabled ?
[10:10] <skpl> well the script will go in /etc/init.d, but the program will probably stay in my home dir
[10:10] <mwe> skpl: in that case /usr/local/bin or /usr/local/sbin I'd say
[10:10] <MystaMax> kensentme: what type
[10:10] <lamego> there is aterm and eterm on the apt repos
[10:10] <skpl> mwe: what is the difference between the two?
[10:10] <KenSentMe> MystaMax, i used one for my debian system
[10:11] <mwe> skpl: sbin is usually for priviledged programs
[10:11] <KenSentMe> MystaMax, http://www.howtoforge.com/proftpd_mysql_virtual_hosting
[10:11] <mwe> skpl: that can't be run by normal users or only partly works for non priviledged users
[10:11] <KenSentMe> MystaMax, i could be my fault, but the users don't work properly
[10:12] <mwe> skpl: I'd say a boot script should not access home directories of a specific user
[10:12] <skpl> mwe: unfortunately the archive manager will not allow me to extract to /usr/local/bin
[10:12] <johnny3d> $/file/to/play/ is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
[10:12] <KenSentMe> MystaMax, give me your link
[10:12] <skpl> mwe: why not?
[10:12] <MystaMax> its the same one
[10:12] <KenSentMe> MystaMax, ah, k
[10:12] <mwe> skpl: because you shouldn't mix users and the system
[10:12] <KenSentMe> MystaMax, have u tried it?
[10:12] <bluecookies> hi _jason
[10:12] <MystaMax> not yet
[10:13] <MystaMax> just read it today
[10:13] <skpl> mwe: why not?
[10:13] <bluecookies> hi everyone
[10:13] <johnny3d> how do i change from uid 1000 to uid 0?
[10:13] <MystaMax> hi
[10:13] <bluecookies> pls hlp me
[10:13] <mwe> skpl: well because by convention users are not are allowed to tamper with the system
[10:13] <KenSentMe> MystaMax, i want to reinstall my web/mail/ftp-server and then try this tutorial again
[10:14] <mwe> skpl: do what like though. it's your systen
[10:14] <mwe> system*
[10:14] <bluecookies> can i upgrade kubuntu 5.10 with kde 4
[10:14] <KenSentMe> MystaMax, but i have to wait until i have a computer left
[10:14] <ubuntu> right i was editing xorg, now i cant login wat do i do
[10:14] <mwe> bluecookies: is that even released yet?
[10:14] <MystaMax> yea, i've got tons of computers to play w/ at work
[10:14] <bluecookies> ok, how about kde 3.5
[10:15] <mwe> bluecookies: yeah you can
[10:15] <bluecookies> can i ?
[10:15] <bluecookies> how?
[10:15] <mwe> bluecookies: kubuntu.org lists a mirror you can use to get kde 3.5
[10:15] <ubuntu> right i was editing xorg, now i cant login wat do i do
[10:15] <KenSentMe> MystaMax, got three at home, but they're all in use
[10:15] <bluecookies> i'll try, thanks  mwe
[10:15] <skpl> can someone tell me how to enable the make command on my system?
[10:16] <KenSentMe> skpl, sudo apt-get install make ?
[10:16] <mwe> bluecookies: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest breezy main
[10:16] <skpl> KenSentMe, is the make command the same as make install or do i need to install that too?
[10:17] <KenSentMe> skpl, good question, i don't know that much about make
[10:17] <Slagerij>   if you were editing xorg.conf, i think you can do Xorg -configure to recreate the xorg.conf file
[10:17] <mwe> skpl: for esay removal of programs, use checkinstall to install it
[10:17] <ubuntu> helllllllllllllllllp
[10:17] <ubuntu> right i was editing xorg, now i cant login wat do i do
[10:17] <Slagerij> although I always backup xorg.conf before tweaking it
[10:17] <mwe> skpl: some programs don't provide easy uninstallation
[10:17] <mwe> skpl: or require that you keep the source to do it
[10:17] <skpl> mwe: im following the instructions of the program i downloaded, i do not know much about linux
[10:18] <skpl> i do not have the checkinstall command however
[10:18] <keithalexander> I am trying to troubleshoot a friend on ubuntu. He is compiling from source, but he gets command not found. Doesn't ubuntu come with make?
[10:18] <mwe> skpl: sudo apt-get install checkinstall
[10:18] <bheung> skpl: i would do a "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[10:18] <dn4> ubuntu vs debian which one is better?
[10:18] <mwe> skpl: then sudo checkinstall instead of sudo make install. easy
[10:18] <skpl> bheung, ok
[10:18] <Cooner750> Why when I go to Network is it trying to connect to itself?
[10:18] <bheung> skpl: it installs the compiler, and other build tools
[10:19] <earthen> could someone help me with a printer problem? some programs can print while others can't adobe acrobat and abiword can print but OO.org and firefox can't?
[10:19] <Entwine>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY 19871987
[10:19] <Slagerij> ouch
[10:19] <Kyral> oops...
[10:19] <Kyral> lol
[10:19] <Entwine> :)
[10:19] <mwe> earthen: can't you choose the printer to use in the print dialog?
[10:20] <sfar> Entwine: lets not hope your root password is the same as your nickserv password.. might be evil people in here :D
[10:20] <mwe> Entwine: change your password now ...
[10:20] <earthen> mwe, yes I can I choose to print to my epson printer but nothing prints
[10:20] <earthen> mwe, unless i use abiword or some other one that works
[10:20] <mwe> earthen: odd
[10:21] <Entwine> please command
[10:21] <earthen> mwe, right noe it's only oo.org and firefox that doesn't seem to print
[10:21] <earthen> mwe, I think so too
[10:21] <skpl> can someone tell me what this means? http://pastebin.com/656360
[10:22] <jadacyrus> is there a How-To for upgrading to Dapper from breezy?
[10:22] <mwe> skpl: it probably means your trying to compile a crappy program
[10:22] <earthen> mwe, Mozilla doesn't print eather
[10:22] <skpl> mwe: it has worked before. why it would it crap now?
[10:23] <mwe> skpl: it's only warnings though
[10:23] <mwe> skpl: maybe it compiles anyway
[10:23] <Slagerij> signedness, is that a new word?
[10:23] <skpl> oh
[10:23] <skpl> mwe: YOU ARE RIGHT
[10:23] <Jimmey__> How can I check my FPS?
[10:23] <jadaz87> !upgrading
[10:23] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade.  Upgrading to dapper (remember it may break). Please test the dist-upgrader -> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html.
[10:24] <supertux> does anyone know when flight 7 is due out?  i cant install till then because of some drives issues with the flight 6 kernel
[10:25] <bolsh> Hi
[10:25] <bolsh> How solid is Dapper nowadays?
[10:25] <asdf25> i've been using it for like 4 days now with no problems at all
[10:26] <asdf25> and GNOME is noticably faster
[10:26] <supertux> flight 6 is very solid
[10:26] <mwe> bolsh: it's unstable. works ok here
[10:26] <mwe> bolsh: some things are broken
[10:26] <KenSentMe> dn4, hard to say
[10:27] <KenSentMe> dn4, i think ubuntu works better if you want to use it as a desktop system
[10:27] <bolsh> mwe, Anything in particular?
[10:27] <bolsh> mwe, Anything in gnome 2.14, in particular? :)
[10:27] <mwe> bolsh: kdm is freezing instead of rebooting for example. gdm works though
[10:28] <bolsh> grand
[10:28] <asparagui> anybody familiar with how to get rythymbox to read itunes shared libraries?
[10:28] <MystaMax> Ken: have you installed gproftpd?
[10:28] <mwe> bolsh: problems with danish letters. solved manually though
[10:28] <earthen> mwe, so you don't have any idea's about my printer problem
[10:28] <KenSentMe> MystaMax, no, my debian server has no window manager
[10:28] <mwe> bolsh: adept_notifier is broken
[10:28] <MystaMax> ah ok
[10:29] <mwe> earthen: not really. sorry. I thought if it worked in one program it should work in the other ones as well
[10:29] <KenSentMe> MystaMax, but looked at proftpd-adm and it installs a complete proftpd-mysql config by itself
[10:29] <bolsh> mwe, I'm Irish/French, with occasional use for &oslash;
[10:29] <eml> ok i installed Eterm now, how can I replace Applications->Accessories->Terminal with the command Eterm instead of gnome-terminal? Tried going System->Preferences->Preferred Application, but no luck
[10:29] <skpl> can someone help me install an ftp server on my system?
[10:29] <sfar> hi eml
[10:29] <KenSentMe> skpl, sudo apt-get install proftpd
[10:29] <MystaMax> apt-get install proftpd
[10:29] <simonpca> !tell simonpca about ipv6
[10:29] <MystaMax> ahh ya beat me
[10:30] <lamego> skpl, apt-cache search ftpd
[10:30] <eml> hi sfar
[10:30] <mwe> bolsh: yeah. it will probably work. I had to fiddle a little with it though in emacs for intance
[10:30] <earthen> mwe, yeah me too it freakin weard
[10:30] <lamego> skpl, sudo apt-get install ftpd_package_name
[10:30] <KenSentMe> skpl, system users login using their own name and pass and end up in their own homedir
[10:31] <KenSentMe> i'm leaving now
[10:31] <MystaMax> ken, can i change my account so its root
[10:31] <KenSentMe> good night everyone
[10:31] <mwe> bolsh: installing mule-ucs solved the emacs problem. I had to switch the locale to en_US.utf8 though
[10:31] <MystaMax> see ya ken! thanks for the advice/help
[10:31] <skpl> kensentme: i installed proftpd but i cannot connect to my own machine, why not?
[10:31] <KenSentMe> MystaMax, sudo -i
[10:31] <mwe> skpl: is it running?
[10:31] <mwe> skpl: do you have a firewall?
[10:32] <KenSentMe> skpl, sudo /etc/init.d/proftpd start
[10:32] <MystaMax> ken: what i meant was so that when i connect to the FTP server, it'll go to / instead of my home directory
[10:32] <_harm>    skpl and make sure ur router is has port 22 open ;)
[10:32] <_harm> MystaMax you have to chroot user to their directory
[10:32] <skpl> KenSentMe, ProFTPd warning: not start neither in standalone nor in inetd/xinetd mode, apparently. Check your configuration.
[10:32] <KenSentMe> MystaMax, if you haven't used the option in profptd.conf RootLogin off then root can login
[10:33] <skpl> mwe: i am not using a firewall
[10:33] <mwe> skpl: maybe you should do, check the configuration
[10:33] <skpl> mwe: how do i do that?
[10:33] <KenSentMe> skpl, sorry, i can't help u right now
[10:33] <mwe> skpl: short answer, read the documentation :)
[10:33] <MystaMax> kk, thanks for ya help
[10:33] <KenSentMe> bye all
[10:33] <MystaMax> bye ken
[10:35] <skpl> mwe: i checked the conf file and it is set to run from inetd
[10:35] <MystaMax> _harm: I'm not sure I understand you
[10:35] <_harm> MystaMax chrooting means to keep people in their directories, so they cant browse outside of their home folder
[10:36] <mwe> skpl: I afraid I can't give you a quick answer. It's been quite a while since I last used it ...
[10:36] <MystaMax> mwe: can I install gproftpd using apt-get?
[10:36] <mwe> MystaMax: yeah. enable universe though
[10:36] <skpl> can someone help me get proftpd started?
[10:36] <MystaMax> mwe: its enabled, so its just sudo apt-get isntall gproftpd?
[10:36] <skpl> i tried using sudo /etc/init.d/proftpd start but i got a warning and the program is not running
[10:36] <MystaMax> _harm: thanks for that info
[10:36] <lamego> skpl, look at the warning and try to understand it :)
[10:37] <mwe> MystaMax: yeah
[10:37] <`Manuel`> hi all
[10:37] <`Manuel`> :)
[10:38] <_harm> MystaMax chrooting is a very essential part of having a effective FTP server
[10:38] <`Manuel`> how I can have man page about function like system or perror?
[10:38] <skpl> lamego,  ok
[10:38] <MystaMax> _harm: where can I get a basic understanding of chrooting
[10:38] <mvdg> Hi there,
[10:38] <mwe> mandingo: install glibc-doc
[10:39] <Slagerij> agree - chrooting is essential for running ftp
[10:39] <mwe> `Manuel`: install glibc-doc
[10:39] <`Manuel`> tnx mwe
[10:39] <skpl> lamego, it is telling me that it is not set to run in standalone or inet.d mode, even though i have it set to run ni inet.d mode according to my conf file, which it asked me to check
[10:39] <_harm> MystaMax i would try google or wiki of your FTP-server-client
[10:39] <NRG88> hi, what gui do you recommend for a weak pc, with 32 mb of ram...? i whant to use it only for mp3-s, some pitures, recognizing flash sticks, etc...
[10:39] <NRG88> but not fluxbox
[10:39] <lamego> skpl, if its set to be run from inetd it can not be launched from /etc/init.d
[10:40] <lamego> inetd is a superdaemon which takes care of starting services on its own
[10:40] <kbrooks> mvdg: ask it. :)
[10:40] <mvdg> Does anyone know how to connect a beamer without screwing up the screen resolution
[10:40] <skpl> lamego, then why isnt the ftp server running now?
[10:40] <NRG88> the target user was using windows, so i'll need an easy gui
[10:40] <NRG88> xfce or icewm?
[10:40] <supertux> but no one knows when flight 7 is expected?
[10:40] <lamego> I don't use inetd for ages, I would look on the inetd configuration on the first place
[10:40] <mwe> skpl: he explainded that
[10:41] <_harm> NRG88 perhaps use puppy or DSL linux?
[10:41] <mvdg> I use key combination fn f8 (crt/lcd)
[10:41] <skpl> mwe: he did?
[10:41] <skpl> i must be a newbie
[10:41] <mwe> skpl: it's configured to use inetd but your starting it from /etc/init.d/
[10:41] <ledil> why is azureus missing under dapper drake ?
[10:41] <caglar> there was a little program which was able to scan the network traffic for http, ftp, IM passwords and so on and was able to monitor them, it is in the ubuntu repos but I do not know what the name was, anyone?
[10:41] <skpl> mwe: so how should i set it to run from init.d?
[10:41] <_harm> ledil cuz dapper isnt final?
[10:41] <mwe> skpl: change it to standalone probably
[10:41] <skpl> ok
[10:41] <NRG88> _harm, but whit what gui?
[10:41] <Slagerij> tcpdump
[10:41] <ledil> _harm: is there a chance to install it from somewhere ?
[10:41] <NRG88> xfce or icewm?
[10:42] <lamego> skpl, if you dont have any special reason to run it from inted, run it as standalone
[10:42] <mwe> skpl: read the documentation please. you don't wanna run a server unless you have a basic understanding of how it works
[10:42] <lamego> inetd
[10:42] <joodas> anyone running aixgl +compiz on i915 or similar HW?#
[10:42] <skpl> no
[10:42] <_harm> NRG88 damnsmalllinux / puppy linux are both fully functional linus distro, both are <100mb fully functional w. GUI mp3 player browser etc etc
[10:42] <skpl> how do i make it run at startup, that is what i want
[10:42] <mvdg> Beamer problem ????
[10:42] <ledil> nother question
[10:42] <mvdg> Anyone ???
[10:42] <Slagerij> caglar: tcpdump will dump network traffic, in all its gory detail
[10:42] <ledil> how to start esd ? i cant find the daemon esd
[10:42] <lamego> skpl, when you install a server by default it gets setup to run at boot
[10:42] <mvdg> Has a solution
[10:42] <NRG88> _harm, DSL's got fluxbox, and that's now very user friendly
[10:43] <redguy> mvdg: what is your problem??
[10:43] <skpl> lamego: so i should reboot for it to run? that does not make much sense
[10:43] <lamego> skpl, for standalones services the /etc/init.d/server start is the usual procedure
[10:43] <skpl> lamego, ok
[10:43] <skpl> thanks.
[10:43] <lamego> btw
[10:43] <lamego> with inetd
[10:43] <_harm> NRG88 you can just addany mp3 client u wish to it
[10:43] <lamego> the server does not need to be running
[10:43] <mvdg> I try the get a beamer connected to my laptop of a second monitor. I would like to see that it doesn't screw up my screen resolution.
[10:44] <mwe> funny how many people refuse to read
[10:44] <lamego> its the inetd process which will run the server when the connection is received
[10:44] <skpl> lamego, so how come i cannot connect to my own machine?
[10:44] <lamego> no idea, did you looked at the inetd logs ?
[10:44] <caglar> how do I get out of a `screen`?
[10:44] <skpl> lamego, how do i do that?
[10:44] <caglar> if ctrl+d doesnt work
[10:44] <lamego> btw, do you have inetd running ?
[10:45] <Slagerij> you either arent running the server, or your hosts.allow file is too tight, or you are running a firewall, also check /var/log action
[10:45] <mvdg> How do I configure a second screen to wich a second 'window' is displayed in a correct resolution
[10:45] <skpl> lamego, not sure
[10:45] <lamego> skpl, well, forget ineted, remove the package and install it again standalone
[10:45] <skpl> but what if i want it to run at startup?
[10:45] <lamego> inetd is far more complex to manage
[10:45] <lamego> grrr you just need to use that sudo command that you have tried
[10:45] <skpl> ok, thanks
[10:46] <sfar> hi eml
[10:46] <mvdg> If I use fn-f8 a second virtual screen is created with the 1900x1440 resolution. This means that on a 1024x840 mon or beamer you can scroll
[10:46] <Tailsfan7> How do I upgrade firefox with Ubuntu
[10:46] <sfar> !ff1.5
[10:46] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[10:46] <sfar> there you go, Tailsfan7
[10:47] <Tailsfan7> Thanks
[10:47] <skpl> lamego, i got this error skpl@regularity:~$ ProFTPd is started from inetd/xinetd.
[10:47] <skpl> lamego, what does that mean?
[10:47] <Tailsfan7> I'm using Ubuntu's Live CD and it's looking fine :)
[10:47] <`Manuel`> I have enabled root user, now how must use make done an apt-get command?
[10:47] <mwe> Tailsfan7: take note of how to restore the default version in case you should need that though
[10:47] <_harm> Tailsfan7 thats good :P
[10:47] <nisipasu> hi everybody
[10:47] <scorchsaber> Tailsfan7: It's faster to load when you have it installed
[10:48] <redguy> mvdg: hmm seems that you want a dualhead setup
[10:48] <nisipasu> do you know what is the name of dc++ in linux ubuntu?
[10:48] <redguy> mvdg: haven't done it myself, but I am sure it can be done
[10:48] <skpl> lamego, are you still there?
[10:48] <nisipasu> do you know what is the name of dc++ in linux ubuntu?
[10:48] <nisipasu> do you know what is the name of dc++ in linux ubuntu?
[10:48] <nisipasu> do you know what is the name of dc++ in linux ubuntu?
[10:48] <nisipasu> do you know what is the name of dc++ in linux ubuntu?
[10:48] <nisipasu> do you know what is the name of dc++ in linux ubuntu?
[10:48] <redguy> !ops nickrud
[10:48] <ubotu> redguy: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:48] <mvdg> redguy: do you know how
[10:48] <Tailsfan7> nisi, I don't think you are allowed to talk about that type of stuff here
[10:49] <nisipasu> why?
[10:49] <mwe> nisipasu: you'll get banned if you flood like that
[10:49] <DBO> we are allowed to discuss filesharing, but please do not spam the channel
[10:49] <lamego> skpl, kind of
[10:49] <redguy> Tailsfan7: why not? he shouldn't ask it hte manner he did but that's another issue
[10:49] <nisipasu> k
[10:50] <Tailsfan7> Because isn't DC++ illegal stuff?
[10:50] <nisipasu> but what is the name i am looking for
[10:50] <skpl> lamego, you said that because of inetd the ftp server should start whenever a connection is detected? however i cannot ftp to my own machine, any idea why?
[10:50] <DBO> Tailsfan7, no, it has many legal uses
[10:50] <mwe> nisipasu: install dcgui
[10:50] <simira> what's a decent, free forum software, more secure than phpbb?
[10:50] <mwe> Tailsfan7: it's not
[10:50] <Tailsfan7> SMF
[10:50] <mwe> Tailsfan7: not all sharing is illegal
[10:50] <lamego> skpl, like i said, if you dont know what is inetd or if you have it running, dont use it
[10:50] <nisipasu> maybe is an equivalent
[10:50] <ompaul> libstdc++5 - The GNU Standard C++ Library v3
[10:50] <simira> Tailsfan7: do you know smf? I can't make it work :-(
[10:50] <DBO> Tailsfan7, its not sharing itself that is illegal, its WHAT you share that makes it legal or illegal
[10:50] <skpl> lamego, i would prefer to learn how to use it, how do i see if it is running?
[10:50] <lamego> if inetd is not running, the server will not be started
[10:51] <ompaul> jenda, what?
[10:51] <Tailsfan7> Yes I Know it
[10:51] <ompaul> I saw the spam but it stopped
[10:51] <lamego> skpl, in my humble oppinion you should not care about learning to use inetd
[10:51] <Tailsfan7> This is my forum that has it: http://barktpolar.byethost15.com/SMF
[10:51] <haGGis> whats the best games for linux
[10:51] <MystaMax> mwe: i tried to run sudo apt-get install gproftpd, but it did not work, i received an error stating, "Couldn't find package gproftp" any ideas?
[10:51] <redguy> mvdg: well, I am sure there is a page on the wiki
[10:51] <redguy> !dualhead
[10:51] <ubotu> redguy: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:51] <skpl> lamego, maybe i should just use pure-ftpd instead, it seems easier to run
[10:51] <mwe> MystaMax: gproftpd
[10:51] <mwe> MystaMax: not gproftp
[10:51] <lamego> specially if you are not familiar with a "regular" standalone service
[10:52] <simira> haGGis: I'm hooked on Battle for Wesnoth
[10:52] <mwe> MystaMax: learn to use apt-cache search
[10:52] <mvdg> looking for it
[10:52] <lamego> skpl, pureftp is just easier as any other ircd, if you dont select an option you don't understand, like you did
[10:52] <haGGis> smimra: what that about
[10:52] <simira> haGGis: adventure/strategy. www.wesnoth.org
[10:52] <p47> hey, do you know how I can make a stop on compiz and XGL ?
[10:53] <skpl> lamego, ok so when i install proftpd as a standalone server why did it not start when i used the sudo etc/init.d/proftpd start command?
[10:53] <DBO> skpl, did it give an error?
[10:53] <LathropWells> is there a log ?
[10:53] <lamego> skpl, Check /var/log/ for the ftpd related errors
[10:54] <skpl> dbo: it said that proftpd ghad to be started from inetd,
[10:54] <skpl> lamego, ok
[10:54] <pashminet> Double_D!!!
[10:54] <Double_D> pashminet: did that work?
[10:54] <DBO> skpl, have you checked in /etc/proftpd.conf to make sure its setup as standalone?
[10:54] <pashminet> Double_D: now dr_dos comes up, what is that?!
[10:54] <lamego> skpl, thats because you already had a previous proftpd configuration which is set to inetd
[10:54] <p47> hey somabody knows how I can stop compiz ?
[10:54] <Double_D> pashminet: that's what it boots to?
[10:55] <pashminet> Double_D: exactly!
[10:55] <skpl> lamego, well i removed and then reinstalled using synaptic, but the config screen never came up, any idea why?
[10:55] <mwe> skpl: you didn't change the config correctly. please read the documentation now
[10:55] <Double_D> pashminet: okay, so that's just dos, i think.
[10:55] <Ced_> Good day there. I get errors about "Couldn't stat source package list" when I open Synaptic. Is there something wrong with the package servers? Or my mirror? (ch.archive.ubuntu.com)
[10:55] <DBO> skpl, because that wont remove config files, you need to use --purge to remove config
[10:55] <Double_D> pashminet: and that's what boots off the live CD, that's strange.
[10:55] <simira> any other good, free forums?
[10:55] <pashminet> Double_D: i know, this is driving me insane
[10:55] <skpl> dbo: so sudo apt-get --purge proftpd?
[10:56] <DBO> skpl, if you edit /etc/proftpd.conf you will see where the config error is, its near the stop, just change it to standalone
[10:56] <_harm> skpl sudo apt-get remove proftpd should be fine
[10:56] <mwe> this is getting annoying. why do people refuse to read?
[10:56] <DBO> _harm, afaik that wont remove /etc/proftpd.conf
[10:56] <stjepan> I'd like to write a bash-like shelll... do you know any guides or tutorials?
[10:56] <Double_D> pashminet: okay, the guys here at work say you need to burn it as a disk image, did you try that?
[10:56] <skpl> _harm, what does this mean? Removing proftpd ...
[10:56] <skpl> ProFTPd is started from inetd/xinetd.
[10:56] <Double_D> pashminet: hehe.  you must be so frustrated by now.
[10:56] <_harm> skpl removing as in uninstalling
[10:57] <Tailsfan7> If I were to install stuff using the Live CD, where would it install?
[10:57] <pashminet> Double_D: i don't know, a dvd boot iso or something
[10:57] <mwe> Tailsfan7: you can't
[10:57] <DBO> Tailsfan7, to the ram drive it creates
[10:57] <Double_D> pashminet: okay, it does need to be burned as an iso.
[10:57] <Double_D> pashminet: what burning software are you using?
[10:57] <Remenic> is there a dead simple way to get vnc (server) working on a default installation of dapper?
[10:58] <nickname> yes
[10:58] <Remenic> taking over the local display
[10:58] <simira> any tip about good, free forum software?
[10:58] <nickname> Remenic: sudo apt-get install tightvnc
[10:58] <_harm> does dapper come with lgx?
[10:58] <arnon> what is the difference between ubuntu and debian? does ubuntu's packages version more modern ?
[10:58] <Yan^> hello people, I am on the freshly installed ubuntu, and trying to add the packages from the ubuntu dvd to the reposir\tory. it says: unable to get exclusive lock... please close the application... what should I do? any ideas?
[10:58] <_harm> simira i use phpbb? invision powerboard? small machine forums?
[10:58] <nickname> Remenic: thats what im using right now im downstairs on my laptop connected to linux box upstairs
[10:58] <lamego> rem_, sudo apt-get install vncserver ?
[10:59] <pashminet> Double_D: nero 6
[10:59] <DBO> arnon, ubuntu tends to update more often, has different default packages and so on
[10:59] <Double_D> pashminet: and what's the url that you got the image from?
[10:59] <mwe> _harm: what's lgx?
[10:59] <MenZa> Yan^:  you need to add "sudo" in front of your command
[10:59] <Remenic> nickname: any other configuration I need to do?
[10:59] <arnon> DBO, I see
[10:59] <MenZa> e.g. "sudo apt-get install package"
[10:59] <simira> _harm: smf don't work, phpbb is a bit unsecure
[10:59] <_harm> mew XLG glx??? u know the cubic desktop :P
[10:59] <Tailsfan7> do I put sudo commands ina  seperate
[10:59] <Double_D> pashminet: so you're burning it as a dvd boot iso?  can you burn it as a cd boot iso instead?
[10:59] <MenZa> Tailsfan7: No. In front of your commands.
[10:59] <nickname> Just install on your other client
[10:59] <bloc76> i upgraded to breezy today and subversion thru apache stopped working. I can't figure out why. svn works fine with file:/// but i get an error going thru apache. anyone have any ideas?
[10:59] <mwe> _harm: it's not installed by default
[10:59] <DBO> Yan^, do you have an extra instances of apt-get or synaptics (the package manager) open?
[10:59] <pashminet> Double_D: i'm out of cd's, i've only got dvds
[10:59] <nickname> in ubuntu just enter
[10:59] <MystaMax> isn't xgl the a novell project?
[11:00] <Double_D> pashminet: ah.  hmmm.
[11:00] <nickname> tightvncserver
[11:00] <_harm> simira urm.. well invision powerboard are fine. but forums always have been prone to flaws /me rembers phpbb kiddy hax =[
[11:00] <skpl> can someone tell me what this mean? http://pastebin.com/656438
[11:00] <Double_D> pashminet: you may need to just have them you ship you one.
[11:00] <pashminet> Double_D: i also downloaded the dvd something something
[11:00] <Double_D> pashminet: what's the url that that stuff is at?
[11:00] <Yan^> DBO: no, that is exactly what the thing says: close the "aptitude or smth. but I have launched nothing
[11:00] <nickname> and open the client enter the ip of the ubuntu computer
[11:00] <simira> _harm: I'll have a look at invision
[11:00] <nickname> your good to goo
[11:00] <nickname> go
[11:00] <pashminet> Double_D: www.ubuntu.com/download
[11:00] <Remenic> nickname: does it start automatically? the server I mean
[11:00] <eml> oh, nice, ubuntu deleted 70gb data from /dev/sda1..
[11:01] <nickname> tightvncserver in terminal
[11:01] <_harm> skpl go to your config file and chance the group option on line 20...
[11:01] <DBO> Yan^, yeah, that glitch occures, but I dont recall the fix...  some lock file that needs to be deleted... anyone remember?
[11:01] <nickname> and its good to good to go
[11:01] <ejd3> MystaMax: yeah xgl is from novell
[11:01] <Remenic> nickname: ok, thanks :)
[11:01] <skpl> _harm: you mean comment it out?
[11:01] <nickname> Remenic:
[11:01] <eml> why would the installer format /dev/sda1 just because it was running?
[11:01] <Double_D> pashminet: did you check the wiki page about burning it?
[11:01] <mwe> DBO: Yan^ /var/lock/dpkg isn't it?
[11:01] <Yan^> DBO: yes there is some "lock" which launches itself in the terminal
[11:02] <sethman> Hello, Can I adk for help here regurding installing a wrieless adapter
[11:02] <pashminet> Double_D: well that's probably the only thing i DIDN'T read
[11:02] <skpl> _harm, what do you mean by chance it?
[11:02] <_harm> skpl well iam sure there is a tutorial or a howto u can find perhaps even a wiki...
[11:02] <nickname> Remenic: if you have a font problem just copy the error and enter it in google and it will tell you how to fix
[11:02] <simira> _harm: invision is not free
[11:02] <Double_D> pashminet: hehe.  you're on windows, right?
[11:02] <Remenic> nickname: oh, nice :P
[11:02] <skpl> i thought this was a help channel
[11:02] <DBO> skpl, pastebin /etc/proftpd.conf and /etc/groups
[11:02] <_harm> skpl your referring to a group which doesnt exist.. nobody isnt a group
[11:02] <stjepan> do you know any very simple Linux shells?
[11:02] <_harm> simira why does it need to be so secure?
[11:02] <Rews> hi again, i have a problem : "Setup is unable to find the "make" program on your machine."
[11:02] <nickname> but it works great
[11:02] <Rews> can someone help me?
[11:02] <Double_D> pashminet: let's see, it's got a tool that it advises you to download and use.  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto
[11:03] <nickname> use fast compression
[11:03] <DBO> skpl, I meant /etc/group
[11:03] <nickname> when it comes up not best compression
[11:03] <Double_D> pashminet: see if that helps you out.
[11:03] <nickname> best doesn't work to well on my computer
[11:03] <ompaul> stjepan, what is simple, use bash unless you are really restricted for space
[11:03] <simira> _harm: you can't be serious...
[11:03] <skpl> dbo: http://pastebin.com/656446
[11:03] <stjepan> ompaul: why bash?
[11:03] <Yan^> mwe: seriously, u mean I should delete a file in /var/lock ???
[11:03] <skpl> _harm: so should i have it point to a group that does exist or simply create a group called nobody?
[11:04] <pashminet> Double_D: thanks, i'll try
[11:04] <stjepan> ompaul: do you know any simpler shells (with less features)
[11:04] <stjepan> ?
[11:04] <Double_D> pashminet: okay, let me know how it goes.
[11:04] <crimsun> sure, ash is one
[11:04] <_harm> simira i hope i didnt sayanything weird :P
[11:04] <mwe> Yan^: if the process is dead and didn't remove the lock, yes
[11:04] <ompaul> stjepan, yes - rsh is one
[11:04] <mwe> Yan^: it's /var/lib/dpkg/lock though
[11:04] <stjepan> ompaul: any more simpler? :)
[11:04] <DBO> skpl, uncomment the part that says "Group nobody" and change nobody to nogroup
[11:04] <simira> _harm: security is a pretty important thing, considered possible misuses of unsecure servers
[11:04] <_harm> skpl you can do ether.. but i assume that the error you showed me tells you that it cant find teh group u gave
[11:04] <Double_D> pashminet: i'm going to be afk for the next ten minutes or so....
[11:04] <Yan^> mwe: so I should delete this file?
[11:04] <ompaul> stjepan, what is simple - other than a concept
[11:05] <_harm> simira phpbb boards arnt that prone to create a unsecure server
[11:05] <mwe> Yan^: if you're sure apt is not running and left the lock anyway
[11:05] <blindx> GAIM likes to disconnect my MSN account sometimes. Is this a common issue? Is it GAIM, or is it MSN?
[11:05] <pianoboy3333> What package is the perl module Filter.pm for PAR in?
[11:05] <pashminet> Double_D: what's afk?
[11:05] <bloc76> pashminet: away from keyboard
[11:05] <pashminet> ah, cool
[11:05] <MC84> hello
[11:05] <simira> blindx: msn, I'd believe. Trillian is like that as well.
[11:05] <blindx> Damn Microsoft :P
[11:05] <mwe> pianoboy3333: perl-modules
[11:06] <stjepan> ompaul: I'd like to see a source of a simple shell to write myself a shell :)
[11:06] <skpl> dbo: i got this erro skpl@regularity:~$ Starting ProFTPD ftp daemon: proftpd - Fatal: <Anonymous>: '/' not permitted for anonymous root directory. on line 53 of '/etc/proftpd.conf'
[11:06] <DBO> blindx, its a bit of both, MSN drops it, but GAIM sometimes get stuck on reconnect
[11:06] <mwe> pianoboy3333: I think
[11:06] <pianoboy3333> mwe: no...
[11:06] <blindx> ah well, AIM stays connected, so that's cool.
[11:06] <DBO> skpl, do you need anonymous access?
[11:06] <skpl> dbo: no
[11:06] <ompaul> stjepan, ahhhh, then I would say don't do those, look at the source for csh or bash and look at some of the functions in there
[11:07] <DBO> skpl, comment out the whole section that starts with <anonymous /> all the way to the end
[11:07] <skpl> DBO, ok
[11:07] <stjepan> ompaul: what do you think of making another one shell? :)
[11:07] <stjepan> ompaul: or you're a bash zealot? :)
[11:07] <DBO> skpl, where did you get this config file from?
[11:07] <blindx> In Winamp, I could set it to not have a taskbar button, and only show up in the systray. Is there a way to do this with XMMS? Looking through the settings, I don't see it...
[11:07] <_harm> simira vbulletin ?
[11:07] <DBO> skpl, because its certainly not the standard...
[11:08] <skpl> dbo: /etc/proftpd.conf
[11:08] <ompaul> stjepan, I think there is no need unless you want to learn that is all, you might as well see how the world you live in works rather than making one up yourself
[11:08] <DBO> skpl, no, I meant did you find it on the internet
[11:08] <simonpca> a+ tous!
[11:08] <Yan^> mwe: I have deleted the lock file, the same error message occurs
[11:08] <skpl> DBO, no, proftpd created it
[11:08] <simira> _harm: still not free
[11:08] <simira> _harm: I like it, though
[11:08] <Yan^> mwe: I have run  "aptitude before
[11:08] <DBO> skpl, no its didnt... proftpd's default is MUCH different...
[11:08] <mwe> Yan^: what was the error again?
[11:08] <stjepan> ompaul: I am frustrated with learning so many languages.... I'd like to have a python-like shell.... what do u think?
[11:09] <skpl> DBO, i got the program to run and it says it is accepting connections however i cannot connect using my ftp client, any idea why? i do not have a firewall up
[11:09] <ompaul> stjepan, there is one
[11:09] <stjepan> ompaul: ipython?
[11:09] <DBO> skpl, /etc/ftpusers -> pastebin
[11:09] <stjepan> ipython is not really a system shell
[11:09] <_harm> simira vbulletin isnt free? well you coudl always opt for a free forum hosted elsewere and use that?
[11:09] <mabus06> can somebody help me get my microphone working? I turned up the volume and unmuted capture, but it still isn't making a sound. The same mic has worked on ubuntu before.
[11:09] <stjepan> ompaul: what shell?
[11:10] <mwe> skpl: why are you refusing to read the documentation?
[11:10] <Yan^> mwe: I am in the graphical mode. trying to add application> settings> add CD. It says: unable to get exclusive lock. This usually means that another package management applcication (like apt-get or aptitude already running. close this first)
[11:10] <skpl> i am not
[11:10] <skpl> dbo: http://pastebin.com/656461
[11:10] <mwe> skpl: it's explained in there
[11:10] <DBO> skpl, you should be able to log in with your username and password
[11:10] <skpl> what is?
[11:10] <mabus06> I have ddns set up for my ip, how do I change it so when I connect to irc my host is shown as mabus.sytes.net (my ddns) instead of my ip?
[11:10] <stjepan> ompaul: you there?
[11:10] <skpl> dbo: however i am not able to, i do not know why
[11:10] <ompaul> stjepan, well to me a python shell is a python shell and about as extensible as they get,  okay so implement some functions and be happy, I really don't want this debate I consider it less fun than other stuff :)
[11:10] <mwe> skpl: how to correctly configure it
[11:10] <_harm> skpl u didnt read the documentation?
[11:10] <skpl> i have it correctly configured
[11:11] <DBO> skpl, your config file sucks, try to find the default one, it should work just fine for you
[11:11] <stjepan> ompaul: and you think nobody would like a python shell?
[11:11] <mwe> Yan^: and you're positive no other program using apt is running?
[11:11] <DBO> (you may have to reassign the passive ports)
[11:11] <ompaul> stjepan, if it was good it would be used :)
[11:11] <stjepan> ompaul: the problem is that I must know how shells work
[11:11] <ompaul> stjepan, but this conversation is for #ubuntu-oftopic
[11:11] <mwe> skpl: apparently not
[11:11] <stjepan> so I need to look at a code
[11:11] <DBO> mwe, saying RTFM is nice and all, but the manual can be very intimidating...
[11:12] <Yan^> mwe: I do not know. OK, i will reboot, and then it kills the other progs, right?
[11:12] <mwe> skpl: you got it to start. that doesn't equal correct configuration
[11:12] <mwe> Yan^: yeah
[11:12] <ompaul> mwe, I said it before, give a URL not rtfm - its not ubuntuish if you feel like saying that say nothing
[11:12] <Yan^> mwe: OK, doing
[11:13] <stjepan> ompaul: and the last question: at the code of what shells should I look to learn about that? What simple shells? I want to understand how shells work...
[11:13] <_harm> simira here all all the forum types i can think of: Ezboard ikonboard IPB UBB vBulletin XMB YaBB SMF PHPBB
[11:13] <Mau> Hi! i am with problems with my dvd::rip
[11:13] <Mau> ibdvdread: using libdvdcss version 1.2.9 for access DVD
[11:13] <Mau> libdvdread: couldn't find device name
[11:13] <Mau> libdvdread: libdcdread can't open file VIDEO_TS.info
[11:13] <ompaul> stjepan, so I said already read the source of a popular one, pick out a function and implement that
[11:13] <DBO> stjepan, most all shell scripting is the same, there are slight differences accross the shells, but 90% of the stuff will transfer well
[11:14] <Mau> does anyone can help me?
[11:14] <ompaul> Mau,  DO NO PASTE here, thanks, use paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[11:14] <_harm> Mau flooding sux
[11:14] <stjepan> ompaul: should I make a wrapper around bash or a shell from scratch?
[11:14] <Mau> sory people!
[11:14] <Mau> im newbie here!
[11:15] <ompaul> stjepan, well if your ambition is to do it in python consider this, you have to reimplement it so lets leave it there or move it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:15] <_harm> Mau np :) just rember
[11:15] <Mau> ;)
[11:15] <ompaul> Mau, as _harm said
[11:15] <mario> hola
[11:15] <stjepan> ompaul: ok tnx very much
[11:16] <eml> how can I select which soundcard should be used? ive got both onboard and a PCI-card
[11:16] <Mau> _harm, can u help me?
[11:16] <wvelez> how long could memtest take on a p4 3.4 ht with 1g ram? thanks
[11:16] <mario> alguien habla espaol
[11:16] <skpl> does the following mean that my ftp server starts whenever a connection is detected? ProFTPd is started from inetd/xinetd.
[11:16] <sethk> wvelez, hours
[11:16] <wvelez> !es
[11:16] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:16] <DBO> wvelez, for a good solid test, over night
[11:17] <wvelez> sethk: thx
[11:17] <sethk> wvelez, testing with memtest86 version 3.2, each pass takes a long time, a bit under three hours for some hardware I was testing recently
[11:17] <wvelez> DBO: so the test will loop until i stop it?
[11:17] <DBO> yes
[11:17] <mwe> skpl: if xinetd is running
[11:17] <skpl> mwe:how do i see if it is running?
[11:17] <mwe> skpl: ps -e|grep inet
[11:17] <Yan^> mwe: well I rebooted, then put the dvd inside. it started to scan, then says:Could not stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com ...etc
[11:17] <skpl> mwe: nothing
[11:18] <skpl> mwe: how do i run it?
[11:18] <wvelez> sethk: does it queue the results from all of the routine loops?
[11:18] <mwe> skpl: I didn't mean to be rude when I suggested you read the documentation.
[11:18] <dumezil_> im running ubuntu 5.10 and im having a problem with mozilla thunderbird.  when i get a link in an email in thunderbird and i click on it, nothing happens...  i can't tell if this is a problem with thunderbird, gnome or firefox...
[11:18] <sethk> wvelez, I believe it simply keeps error counters, one for normal errors and one for ECC errors
[11:18] <wvelez> sethk: kewl...thx
[11:18] <Cooner750> what's the keyboard shortcut to get the run command window?
[11:18] <skpl> mwe: can you tell me why proftpd is running according to ps aux even though i have uninstalled it?
[11:18] <mwe> skpl: first do you really want it to run from inetd or as standalone?
[11:19] <Yan^> mwe: and when I do add applications > settings> add CD it says the same thing: unable to get exclusive lock
[11:19] <wvelez> duzemil: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=60427
[11:19] <sethk> Cooner750, ALT-F2
[11:19] <mwe> skpl: I don't think uninstalling it kills running processes
[11:19] <blaaat>  want to use xhephyr but how do i install it it doesn't seem to come with the default xorg stuff and i'm having trouble compilling it so i'd prefer apt
[11:19] <skpl> mwe: i just want it to run whenever i start my computer
[11:19] <sethman> Hello, I am trying to install my DLINK Wireless Adapter USB device (DWL-G122 H/W ver::B1 F/W Ver.:2.02) and have been encountering a problem. It appears that I have to compile the driver to work on my system.
[11:19] <sethman> When I go to "make" the untarred files, it produces the following error messages:
[11:19] <mwe> skpl: you should probably figure out how to make it run standalone then
[11:19] <sethman> sethman@SethKubuntu:~/rt2570-cvs-2006041119/Module$ sudo make
[11:19] <sethman> make[1] : Entering directory `/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/build'
[11:19] <sethman> make[1] : *** No rule to make target `modules'.  Stop.
[11:19] <sethman> make[1] : Leaving directory `/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/build'
[11:19] <sethman> rt2570.ko failed to build!
[11:19] <sethman> make: *** [module]  Error 1
[11:20] <skpl> mwe: i already did, however i still could not connect for some reason
[11:20] <mwe> sethman: don't paste in here
[11:20] <duelboot> !pastebin
[11:20] <ubotu> it has been said that pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[11:20] <mwe> skpl: and ps -e|grep proftp confirmed it was running?
[11:21] <rapha> Hi all!
[11:21] <blaaat> hi, I want to use xhephyr but how do i install it it doesn't seem to come with the default xorg stuff and i'm having trouble compilling it so i'd prefer apt, any sudgestions?
[11:21] <mwe> skpl: and what about sudo netstat -ntlp?
[11:21] <ompaul> sethman, sudo apt-get install build-essential - and don't do that again
[11:21] <st3v3dnd> I just installed the latest pgadmin3 from source using a postgres package server, and now ubuntu keeps telling me I need to upgrade(to the binary I assume). When I do though the app is broken, and I have to resinstall from source to get it working. How can I get ubuntu to stop notifying me I need to update?
[11:21] <skpl> mwe: ok, i made it work, thank you
[11:21] <sethman> mwe: don't paste what
[11:21] <rapha> How do I set German stock symbols in the stock ticker applet? It doesn't work with any of the ones I enter :-(
[11:21] <mwe> skpl: good
[11:21] <blindx> I ran nm-applet, but then got ubuntu to configure my WiFi without it.... how would I remove it from my "tray" ?
[11:21] <mwe> sethman: anything
[11:22] <duelboot> sethman, anthing more than 2 lines, put in pastebin
[11:22] <duelboot> sethman, then put link here
[11:22] <sethman> Thank you for telling me about pastebin
[11:22] <duelboot> yw
[11:22] <Yan^> mwe: no idea?
[11:22] <mwe> Yan^: still not working?
[11:23] <eml> hmm, sudo apt-get install linux-k7 gives me kernel 2.6.12? o.O
[11:23] <Yan^> mwe: the same thing after rebot
[11:23] <eml> i want .16.5
[11:23] <sethman> I tried build-essential already. Same error
[11:23] <mwe> Yan^: can you use apt-get in a terminal?
[11:23] <Yan^> mwe: what package for example?
[11:23] <sethk> mwe, you can only use apt-get in a terminal
[11:23] <mwe> Yan^: sudo apt-get update
[11:23] <Yan^> mwe: trying
[11:24] <mwe> sethk: I know that
[11:24] <sethk> mwe, I know
[11:24] <blindx> I ran nm-applet, but then got ubuntu to configure my WiFi without it.... how would I remove it from my "tray" ?
[11:24] <sethk> mwe, you mean, does _he_ know how to use apt-get in a terminal  :)
[11:24] <p47> Hello someone can help me ?
[11:24] <MystaMax> im pretty sure someone will try
[11:24] <mwe> sethk: probably
[11:25] <mwe> p47: possibly if you ask a question
[11:25] <Yan^> mwe: oh many many error messages!! -- err http://us.archive.... Temporary failure resolving "us.archive'...
[11:25] <sethk> p47, depends on whether you ask a question.  If you don't ask a question then nobody can help you
[11:25] <mwe> Yan^: oh
[11:25] <mwe> Yan^: try removing the us. part of your mirrors
[11:25] <p47> I can't open gdesklet do you know why ?
[11:25] <mwe> Yan^: us. is sometimes not working well
[11:26] <Yan^> mwe: I am NOT connected to the NET at all!
[11:26] <lamego> Yan^, or you have a dns configuration problem
[11:26] <mwe> Yan^: oh
[11:26] <lamego> Yan^, if you dont have net at all the net repos should be disabled
[11:27] <p47> mwe, sethk can you help me ?
[11:27] <Yan^> lamego, mwe: do u mean to say that each time it astarts to seek for the NET repos?
[11:27] <sethk> p47, what happens when you try to use gdesklet?
[11:27] <siezer> whats the reccomended way to upgrade just one package from the dapper tree (firefox)
[11:27] <lamego> YaH00, yes, unless you comment them, as you should if you dont havennet
[11:27] <siezer> er
[11:28] <Yan^> lamego: ok, how do I do it, and where?
[11:28] <lamego> siezer, there is no easy way to do that because the package depends on system libraries upgrades
[11:28] <siezer> from breezy to ubuntu
[11:28] <mwe> siezer: well breezy _is_ ubuntu
[11:28] <lamego> siezer, you mean from breezy to dapper
[11:28] <lamego> yacc, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and comment the network related entries
[11:29] <sfar> siezer: what you wanna do? upgrade firefox?
[11:29] <lamego> then do: sudo apt-get update
[11:29] <siezer> yea. i mean i have an ubuntu box, and id like to update just the mozilla-firefox package (and dependancies) from the dapper repository
[11:29] <Yan^> lamego: OOOK doing
[11:29] <siezer> ive read a little about package pinning but i get conflicting advice out of google
[11:29] <blindx> how do i remove items from the "tray" ?
[11:29] <sfar> !tell siezer about ff1.5
[11:30] <mwe> siezer: not recomended. read the /msg ubotu send you instead
[11:30] <siezer> k
[11:30] <tonyyarusso> siezer: You can't do that without breaking loads of stuff.  Follow the wiki (see ubotu) to install 1.5 and 1.07 side by side instead.
[11:30] <mwe> blindx: stop the running program
[11:30] <blindx> how do you stop running nm-applet?
[11:30] <sfar> blindx: what kind of items?
[11:30] <FlannelKing> siezer: upgrading to certain dapper packages is a no no.
[11:30] <mabus06> In Russia, all our base are belong to YOU!!
[11:31] <blindx> Hm... just got a notice, saying a new kernel was installed and to restart..
[11:31] <blindx> soo.. I'll be back in a little bit?
[11:31] <BlueSwirl> in russia, you do not catch train, train catches you!
[11:31] <nickrud> siezer, upgrading firefox in situ won't work, too many things depend upon it. That
[11:31] <Yan^> lamego:: wow, indeed there is 1 uncommented line
[11:31] <nickrud> 's why the wiki page was written
[11:32] <lamego> ;)
[11:32] <siezer> hrm
[11:32] <siezer> thanks guys
[11:32] <siezer> (girls?)
[11:32] <FlannelKing> siezer: or, just upgrade to Dapper ;)
[11:32] <arrick> Has anyone here ever traded a 270mb hd for a 700 mhx 128mg computer even up before?
[11:33] <Jackie_> hi, can i access my ubuntu computer remotely using a vnc viewer and my IP?
[11:33] <lamego> Jackie_, if you install the vnc server, yes
[11:33] <bina> does linux keep a cache of the DNS responses you get when browsing the web?  if so, how do you reset it?
[11:33] <Jackie_> lamego, doesn't the vnc server come by default?
[11:33] <lamego> Jackie_, no, but it is easy to install it, just one command
[11:33] <MystaMax> hey mwe: figured out how to use apt-get cache search, FYI its gforge-ftp-proftpd
[11:33] <sethman> I hope this is the correct way to use pastebin : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12112
[11:34] <arrick> what are the minimum requirements for running the default ubuntu-desktop installation?
[11:34] <Jackie_> i think i have it...i can go to System->Preferences->Remote Desktop or something
[11:34] <sfar> ompaul: i was thinking about something.. on the /FaqOnIrc there is a section that says "Why does ./configure give errors?" .. the following URL does not say anything about it tho :| i feel tricked! ;)
[11:34] <lamego> Jackie_, I believe there you just have the client there
[11:34] <Jackie_> oh
[11:35] <lamego> erm remove the last there :P
[11:35] <mwe> MystaMax: it is? in dapper it'e gproftpd
[11:35] <MystaMax> welcome back skpl
[11:35] <ompaul> sfar, thank you - lets go fix
[11:35] <erUSUL> sethk, have you instaled the kernel headers?
[11:35] <Jackie_> ok...thing is...i can use vnc viewer on my laptop to access my ubuntu desktop using 196.168.1.XXX
[11:35] <jenda> ompaul: Add "To ask ubotu, /msg ubotu <factoid>" or something like that. It took me a while before I figured out that it's not /msg ubotu !<f> or /msg ubotu tell me about <f> etc.
[11:35] <sethk> erUSUL, yes
[11:36] <nickrud> faqonirc does need a lot of loving care
[11:36] <Seveas> nickrud, it's a wiki
[11:36] <Seveas> edit it 
[11:36] <nickrud> ;P
[11:36] <MystaMax> when installing using apt-get will it auto add a menu item to Applications???
[11:37] <MystaMax> for that program?
[11:37] <anders_> Can I ask some questions about Beagle on Dapper?
[11:37] <lamego> MystaMax, it depends on the application, most applications do
[11:37] <lamego> anatole, i think dapper is on #ubuntu+1
[11:37] <MystaMax> ah ok
[11:37] <anders_> thx
[11:37] <nickrud> I have my ideas about that page, but sometimes I have blind spots about what people want to know
[11:37] <FlannelKing> where's the O!
[11:38] <MystaMax> i have no better way of asking this so i'll just ask...
[11:38] <Seveas> meh
[11:38] <Seveas> I suck
[11:38] <FlannelKing> heh
[11:38] <erUSUL> sethk, you misstyped is ./configure (no capital C)
[11:38] <eugman> I know it's for helping the disabled but this dasher program is really fun...
[11:38] <sethk> erUSUL, I didn't type it at all, so I cannot have mistyped it
[11:38] <MystaMax> windows uses "program files" as the standard directory for program installation. what is it for Ubuntu/linux?
[11:38] <mwe> heh
[11:38] <FlannelKing> eugman: yeah, dasher is a gem.
[11:38] <mwe> MystaMax: binaries go to /usr/bin usually
[11:38] <erUSUL> sethman, you misstyped is ./configure (no capital C)
[11:39] <eugman> Itit's fun to just let my mind run and add words as fast as I can.
[11:39] <mwe> MystaMax: but files are scattered according to type (libraries, config files, etc).
[11:39] <erUSUL> sethk, the msg was for sethman not for you sorry (tab completion...) 8^P
[11:40] <leagris> Updated dapper gives very small fixed font in thunderbird. Any idea ?
[11:40] <Seveas> leagris, buy glasses 
[11:40] <FlannelKing> MystaMax: http://www.secguru.com/files/linux_file_structure.jpg and http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Linux-Filesystem-Hierarchy/html/index.html
[11:40] <blindx> =)
[11:40] <spine> ubuntu wont setup my cd-burner drive correctly, ive been stuck having to boot to windows and use IFS to access the linux volume but after having so many problems and having a motherboard without LBA32 i decided to finally switch entirely, i cant burn cds now.
[11:40] <sethman> thank you  erUSUL. However, I have tried both ways. There is no configure file in the tarball file.
[11:40] <leagris> thanks Seveas ;D
[11:40] <blindx> :)
[11:40] <Multipel> I would to have some quick help here about sfv-checking. Is it possible to check one folder and every sub-folder it contains?
[11:40] <crimsun> leagris: fontconfig update, resolution for that issue noted in the changelog. Basically, fix firefox's fonts prefs.
[11:40] <Yan^> lamego: oh gosh, same thing happens again, I commented all the lines in the list, and it says again: unable to get exclusive lock
[11:41] <lamego> YaH00, uh, exclusive lock ? thats not the error you were reporting
[11:41] <lamego> that means another app is using the packages db
[11:41] <leagris> how do I update/do/rix it crimsun ?
[11:41] <leagris> fix
[11:41] <Yan^> lamego: yes this is the error. I do not have any other al\pplication running
[11:41] <spine> ubuntu wont setup my cd-burner drive correctly, ive been stuck having to boot to windows and use IFS to access the linux volume but after having so many problems and having a motherboard without LBA32 i decided to finally switch entirely, i cant burn cds now.
[11:41] <incon> hi tring to learn how to use the linux build tools (autoconf) and i have a little problem in /usr/share/libtool i cant find install.sh yet config.guess and config.sub are there....
[11:42] <sethman> erUSUL: Is a ./configure file necessary to use "make"
[11:42] <Yan^> Lamego: i just put the dvd in the drive and trying to add it to the repository
[11:42] <lamego> Yan^, let me try to figure the lock file for the db so I can tell you how to find the process which is locking it
[11:42] <crimsun> leagris: Edit> Preferences> Content> Fonts & Colors
[11:42] <erUSUL> sethman, sethman you run ./configure and then you run make
[11:42] <Yan^> lamegoi: just tell me what i should do I will
[11:43] <erUSUL> sethman, have you instaled kernel headers
[11:43] <mwe> sethman: some programs do not come with a configure file
[11:43] <erUSUL> ?
[11:43] <mwe> sethman: but they come with README and/or INSTALL files usually
[11:43] <AndyNeedsHelp> Hi everyone. I am having a problem printing photos. The comp needs to be able to use one prgram for RAW and JPEGS (so Gthumb is out :( ) and I am trying DigiKam. It does everything except print
[11:43] <leagris> crimsun, thunderbird prefernces ?
[11:44] <AndyNeedsHelp> the printing takes forever which is simply not useable. So does anyone know why?Its a canon i9950 Printer that works brilliantly through some programs
[11:44] <AndyNeedsHelp> why not DigiKam!?
[11:44] <crimsun> leagris: I don't use TB, but I presume so
[11:44] <LathropWells> AndyNeedsHelp, - did "gutenprint" do anything for you? (prints using the GIMP)
[11:44] <sethman> erUSAL & mwe: I have run  "sudo apt-get install build-essential" and " sudo apt-get install kernel-package"
[11:44] <leagris> previously it was at default 12point ant that displayed ok yesterday
[11:44] <Yan^> lamego: by the way, when I try to add the CD there is a strange message in the terminal  besides the "exclusive lock" it says assertion 'gtk_accel_group_from_accel_closure (accel_closure) !=NULL' failed
[11:44] <mwe> sethman: yes
[11:45] <AndyNeedsHelp> havent tried that one yet. The Gimp normally is very slow aswell for printing to it
[11:45] <lamego> yacc, sudo fuser /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[11:45] <leagris> crimsun, today I have to scale fixed to 16pixels and font drawing is not the same, look thinner and barely readable
[11:45] <sethman> mwe: there is a readme and it says to run "make"
[11:45] <lamego> i mean, yan...
[11:45] <AndyNeedsHelp> i shall have a look. Anyother thoughts on the matter? is there another way to setup to the printer apart from CUPS?
[11:45] <mwe> sethman: and what are you trying to do?
[11:45] <lamego> it will give you the pid of the process locking the dpkg db
[11:45] <lamego> you can heck it with: ps -fp pid
[11:45] <incon> anyone about to help me with my autoconf problem ?
[11:45] <lamego> and kill it
[11:45] <mwe> sethman: I missed what happens when you type make
[11:46] <AndyNeedsHelp> LathropWells
[11:46] <mwe> sethman: what are you even trying to install?
[11:46] <LathropWells> ?
[11:46] <blindx> I just isntalled Java for Firefox, but it's not working?
[11:46] <AndyNeedsHelp> LathropWells: is Gutenprint the same as Gimp Print? because I do that that
[11:46] <sethman> mwe: My pastebin : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12112
[11:46] <Concretesledge> is anyone around that likes to mess with VNC
[11:46] <crimsun> leagris: see the fontconfig changelog.
[11:46] <LathropWells> other than cups? i am too know. don't think so.
[11:47] <leagris> ok putting monospace font to 14pixels restore same rendering as with 12pts previously
[11:47] <Yan^> lamego: ok, i will try now, but tell me: this will always behave like this? for every small packege to install I should do all the thing?
[11:47] <LathropWells> yes, it is the same as gimp print
[11:47] <AndyNeedsHelp> hmm
[11:47] <AndyNeedsHelp> I will play with it again. That would do something. Don't supose you use RAW format at all?
[11:47] <skpl> can someone tell me where to save my cursor themes?
[11:47] <Multipel> Does anybody here understand how cfv and/or chsfv works?
[11:48] <mwe> sethman: did you install linux-headers-$(uname -r) ?
[11:48] <Concretesledge> im trying to use a Physical disk , in VMware
[11:48] <LathropWells> AndyNeedsHelp, - no, sorry...
[11:48] <scorp2025> hi, I'm trying to install the newest ati drivers but as soon as I start the installer the output is this: Detected version of X does not have a matching 'x700' directory. I am using dapper drake. Any ideas?
[11:48] <AndyNeedsHelp> LathropWells: thanks for the help, I will keep going and googling. It must be something stupid that makes the printer take so long to do anything
[11:48] <sethman> mwe: I will try that again
[11:49] <lamego> Yan^, no there was some problem which left a process hanging the lock
[11:49] <Yan^> lamego: pid is 7691, but "top" shows NO PROCESS running as 7691
[11:49] <Jackie_> does anyone have vistaBut GTK theme?
[11:50] <lamego> Yan^, do: ps -fp 7691
[11:50] <Yan^> ok, doin
[11:50] <sean> If I install xubuntu-desktop, will that replace anything in kubuntu-desktop? (I prefer KDM)
[11:50] <Multipel> Sean: No.
[11:50] <mwe> sean: no
[11:50] <Multipel> sean: You can have both.
[11:50] <blindx> I just isntalled Java for Firefox, but it's not working?
[11:50] <mwe> sean: it will install xcfe4 along kde
[11:50] <sean> thanks!
[11:50] <Yan^> lamego: it says: root 7691   1 0 o6,40 /usr/bin/python2.4 ... etc
[11:51] <mwe> blindx: maybe you didn't create the correct symlink
[11:51] <blindx> quite possibly.
[11:51] <blindx> Considering I don't know wtf I'm doing.
[11:51] <Multipel> sean: I Gnome you change desktop in sessions when you logging in.
[11:51] <mwe> blindx: there should be a link to the java plugin in ~/.mozilla/plugins
[11:51] <Multipel> sean: It might be the same i KDE.
[11:51] <mwe> blindx: did you install sun java or what?
[11:52] <blindx> yes
[11:52] <Yan^> lamego: and then??
[11:52] <andre_> bla
[11:52] <mwe> blindx: did you create the link?
[11:52] <weazelb0y> Just installed ubuntu and I downloaded sun-jdk and eclipse...but eclipse wont run, failing trying to find pango-1.4 stuff...how do I upgrade pango?
[11:52] <andre_> quit
[11:52] <lamego> Yan^, kill -9 7691
[11:52] <blindx> I'm not sure, mwe.. I downloaded the .bin file.. then chmodded it, then ran it.
[11:52] <lamego> it is a python script using the lock
[11:52] <leagris> Ok, now default fontconfig settings excludes bitmapped fonts an some aliases changes
[11:52] <blindx> and it said "done" so i closed the console.
[11:52] <mrchrisblau> Good afternoon everybody
[11:52] <mwe> blindx: oh
[11:53] <CraiZE> hello, i updated compiz, and now suddenly it doesnt work anymore, is there a way to revert back to the old one?
[11:53] <mwe> blindx: what bin was that? the sun official one?
[11:53] <Yan^> lamego: killed! should I reboot?
[11:53] <Concretesledge> is anyyone familiar with installing UBUNtu onto a physical/bootable using vmware workstation
[11:53] <lamego> Yan^, no, you should be ok now
[11:53] <blindx> The only thing in ~/.mozilla/plugins is flashplayer.xpt and libflashplayer.so
[11:53] <Yan^> lamego:tryin ;))
[11:54] <lamego> Concretesledge, physical bootable ?
[11:54] <blindx> things* are*
[11:54] <joseph> trying
[11:54] <joseph> ping
[11:54] <mwe> blindx: ok. where did the .bin install java?
[11:54] <lamego> Concretesledge, I am familiar with installing it on a vm disk
[11:54] <mrchrisblau> Are the Ubuntu forums working for everybody?
[11:54] <blindx> yeah, right off the java page
[11:54] <blindx> /usr/java
[11:54] <joseph> i just installed java
[11:54] <Yan^> lamego: the same message: unable to get exclusive lock
[11:54] <leagris> crimsun, I'm visually impaired, so, these are typical settings that becomes critical here. And glasses don't help on retina deffects either ;D
[11:54] <lamego> Yan^, reboot :)
[11:54] <mwe> blindx: find the plugins dir in /usr/java
[11:55] <Yan^> lamego :)))
[11:55] <Concretesledge> lamego i just want to install it using the ISO onto a hardrive
[11:55] <Concretesledge> is there a way
[11:55] <mwe> blindx: btw I'd recommend !javadebs
[11:55] <crimsun> leagris: simply put, FF/TB/etc. need to be reconfigured.
[11:55] <sethman> mwe: my pastebin results: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12113
[11:55] <lamego> Concretesledge, sure, just create a vm disk, and setup the cdrom to use the iso, you can boot and install from it to the vm disk
[11:55] <skpl> can someone tell me how to install a cursor theme?
[11:55] <blindx> !javadebs
[11:55] <Concretesledge> lamego i want to bea ble to use grub to mutli boot
[11:55] <blindx> ?
[11:56] <leagris> crimsun, done that, because the default settings are now too small.
[11:56] <Concretesledge> you know what i mean
[11:56] <lamego> Concretesledge, uh ? multiboot on a VM ?
[11:56] <pashminet> Double_D: dearest?
[11:56] <mwe> sethman: yeah already installed
[11:56] <Double_D> pashminet: yes?
[11:56] <Concretesledge> no no no.. i want to install Ubuntu onto F: harddrive.
[11:56] <Concretesledge> stand alone
[11:56] <mwe> blindx: hmm. that usually works
[11:56] <Concretesledge> but i dont have teh CD, or a cd burner
[11:56] <blindx> it pm'd it
[11:56] <lamego> no I don't. One thing is to boot inside a VM, another thing is to dual boot, which is booting completely to another OS
[11:56] <pashminet> Double_D: dr_dos. what is going on?
[11:56] <mwe> blindx: ok good then
[11:57] <blindx> thanks, mew
[11:57] <lamego> Concretesledge, you just need to create the vmware disk on the F: drive
[11:57] <blindx> mwe*
[11:57] <lamego> and setup it to read the cd from the iso file
[11:57] <Concretesledge> lamego lol. if i do that it says no OS
[11:57] <mwe> blindx: you should still create the symlink
[11:57] <Concretesledge> please insert disk
[11:57] <Double_D> pashminet: one minute, on the phone with a customer.  i'll see what i can find out.
[11:57] <PwcrLinux> Hmm Java package no such or dir on seavas's http line in the sypnatic after I edited the source.list..
[11:57] <pashminet> Double_D: sure, thanks!
[11:58] <lamego> Concretesledge, no it does not, if it does thats is because you dont know to use vmware, and you didn't specified to use the iso file for the cdrom device
[11:58] <Howitzer> Does the UDSF have a list of RETAIL games which you can natively play on Linux?
[11:58] <Yan^> lamego: gosh, the same thing ! what is wrong? is it a known bug? the thing means that I just can not work with the distro
[11:58] <Concretesledge> lamego care to give it a try, usiNG vnc ?
[11:58] <lamego> and you didn't selected on the vmware bios to boot from the cdrom
[11:58] <Concretesledge> hm
[11:58] <Concretesledge> thats a good idea, mess with the bios
[11:58] <blindx> mwe: i don't know what a symlink is, much less how to create one
[11:59] <sethman> mwe: would you be willing to look at the tarball file for me and see if you can get it to compile? http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/rt2570-cvs-daily.tar.gz .
[11:59] <mwe> blindx: I'll tell you
[11:59] <lamego> Concretesledge, you need to hit the key to select the boot device or to boot from the cdrom, i am not sure which is they key right now
[11:59] <lamego> Concretesledge, i use ubuntu inside vm, everyday...
[11:59] <vixtor> hei
[11:59] <mwe> blindx: If I were you I'd remove /usr/java install javadebs. then come back and I'll tell you how to create the link
[11:59] <Yan^> lamego: by the way, now sudo fuser etc. give the empty line!
[12:00] <lamego> Yan^, so, just sudo rm the file