[12:03] <n3storm> jlb: software in your kubuntu system is downloaded from a sources list
[12:03] <claydoh> jeff_: did you run "apt-get update" or "fetch updates" in adept?
[12:04] <n3storm> jlb: the file where you specify the sources is at /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:05] <n3storm> you should read more about your kubuntu system before upgrading to kde 3.5.2 or touching the file I mentioned before
[12:05] <n3storm> there are several places where you will find further information
[12:05] <jlb> n3, I'm an ex-Windows user, so what do you recommend for reading up, and what action needs to be performed with that .list file and the addresses given?
[12:05] <jlb> Hopefully, keyword is "ex"
[12:06] <ports_> hey
[12:07] <jeff_> claydoh, jlb: yeah i ran apt-get update like a minute ago, the error message in adept is: There was an error comitting changes.
[12:07] <ports_> what module do i need to install to watch divx on Kubuntu?
[12:07] <jeff_> Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the comitt would break packages
[12:08] <n3storm> jlb: except a kde app is crashing for you repeatedly you don't need to upgrade to kde 3.5.2
[12:08] <n3storm> really
[12:08] <jlb> I know it sounds stupid, but I went into the Konsole and typed in "sudo passwd" and then I changed the password to the current password.  It sounds stupid, but it worked for me.  Then I could go into Adept and update.
[12:09] <jlb> Try that jeff
[12:09] <jeff_> try changing the pass to what it is now? then update in adept?
[12:09] <jlb> Any way of getting Firefox to work on kubuntu-AMD64?
[12:09] <jlb> Yes
[12:09] <jeff_> ok
[12:10] <jlb> Sounds stupid, but it worked.  I typed in "sudo passwd"  then it asked for password, I typed it in, then I typed in the same pswd twice and it worked.  I was having that issue while I was trying to access the system settings at root and it wouldn't let me, so I just changed the pswd to itself and it worked, wierd, I know.
[12:11] <n3storm> by default kubuntu doesn't have a root user available
[12:11] <Lilfade> can someone help me?
[12:12] <jlb> right, I couldn't log in to root, but if I wanted to make administrative changes in system settings, it wouldn't let me, something about "authentication failed."  So I just did what was listed above and it fixed it.
[12:13] <n3storm> jlb: you could have used "sudo command"
[12:13] <n3storm> but I enable root user too, as you did
[12:14] <Lilfade> could some one tell me where to find a ssh program?
[12:14] <Lilfade> so i can connect to my web server?
[12:15] <n3storm> Lilfade: sudo apt-get install ssh
[12:15] <jlb> Any reason why when I plug my digital camera in via USB I can't access the pictures.  The device is set to act as removable storage without a specific driver.  But when I plug it in, it says /dev/scda1 is dot accessible.
[12:16] <Lilfade> ok thx
[12:16] <n3storm> jlb: don't know
[12:16] <Lilfade> it does that on my usb hard drive for some reason
[12:17] <Lilfade> i just goto /media and find it
[12:17] <jlb> Jeff: any luck?
[12:18] <Lilfade> how do i start ssh now?
[12:19] <n3storm> Lilfade: you ever used ssh?
[12:19] <Lilfade> on windows
[12:19] <n3storm> Lilfade: use konqueror
[12:19] <n3storm> fish://yourlogin@yoursshserver
[12:20] <Lilfade> ok but i have to run a command "./configure"
[12:21] <Lilfade> how do i do this?
[12:21] <n3storm> hehehe
[12:21] <n3storm> ok
[12:21] <n3storm> so you need to open konsole and do this
[12:21] <n3storm> ssh -l yourlogin yoursshserver
[12:21] <n3storm> sorry
[12:21] <jlb> n3: IF I were going to install KDE 3.5.2, would I paste the sources in the "backport" sections or the "universe repository" sction?
[12:22] <Lilfade> sorry?
[12:22] <Lilfade> what u mean?
[12:22] <n3storm> yep sorry I told you to use konqueror when you needit a konsole access
[12:22] <n3storm> jlb: It doesn't matter
[12:23] <jlb> anywhere in the list?
[12:23] <n3storm> yea
[12:23] <jlb> k
[12:24] <jlb> are there other sources out there for more software asside from what's listed in "Adept"?
[12:24] <n3storm> nop
[12:24] <n3storm> that's the same file I told you before
[12:24] <n3storm> "/etc/apt/sources.list"
[12:24] <jlb> right
[12:24] <jlb> but if I go into adept...
[12:25] <n3storm> ?
[12:25] <jlb> and click on manage repositories, I can choose the sources for different downloads.  In order to update KDE, I have to include this source.  So, are there other sources out there to get different kinds of software....
[12:25] <sethman> noteventime: Sorry I haven't responeded, I have been getting help in #ubuntu. Thank you for your reply.
[12:25] <jlb> that aren't listed in adept?
[12:26] <n3storm> jlb:there are many but you can break the system if you don't study before your system
[12:26] <n3storm> ;)
[12:26] <noteventime> sethman, :D did you fix it?
[12:26] <jlb> yea, I wouldn't want to install something that's not designed for my system.  Cool.
[12:27] <jlb> thx
[12:27] <n3storm> I'm glad you understood it
[12:28] <Lilfade> ok its working thx much n3storm
[12:29] <n3storm> no prob, you are welcome, but better read wikis and forums first next time
[12:29] <n3storm> there are loads of tutorials about this stuff overthere
[12:29] <n3storm> ;)
[12:29] <sethman> noteventime: Still working on it, thanks for asking
[12:29] <jlb> I was reading this handbook to Linux bash just now and I just stumbled onto something I think is hilarious: 	"Search Goole for further documentation and tutorials at 'http://www.google.com' (if you've been living in a closet)"
[12:30] <n3storm> jlb: is as truth as there is live outthere ;)
[12:30] <Lilfade> well g2g bye
[12:30] <n3storm> by
[12:31] <jlb> n3: you think?
[12:31] <Vampis> ello
[12:31] <Vampis> whazap?
[12:32] <jlb> I once was told by a buddy of mine when I was working for Dell Tech support, "People are cattle.  As individuals, they can be brilliant, but as a group, we are all cattle."
[12:32] <sethman> noteventime: what are the wext drivers? Is there a wiki on them?
[12:32] <n3storm> jlb: as a teacher I say: we are taught to behave as cattle
[12:33] <noteventime> I don't know if theres a wiki, It's some kind of generic drivers I think, It's what I've been using anyway :P
[12:33] <jlb> So, what's a wiki? Any relation to wikipedia?
[12:33] <noteventime> wikipedia is a wiki
[12:34] <noteventime> search wiki on wikipedia :)
[12:34] <Wizzy_Kidd> why is my ark always fucking up
[12:34] <jlb> lol
[12:34] <Wizzy_Kidd> it wonmt start
[12:34] <Wizzy_Kidd> ERROR: Communication problem with ark, it probably crashed.
[12:34] <Wizzy_Kidd> i am getting that everytime i try and run it
[12:34] <Wizzy_Kidd> let me restart
[12:35] <jlb> okay??!
[12:36] <jlb> Ahh!  A wiki...how cool.
[12:36] <jlb> m2, what do you teach?
[12:37] <jlb> ^n3^
[12:37] <n3storm> I mostly teach openoffice and gimp
[12:37] <n3storm> but I went to university and learnt to teach anything
[12:38] <Bambino> Hmm ,i installed now a nice splash screen and login screen. However, between the login and the splash screen. (After i press "login" and until everything loads) there is a blue colored screen first, then the splash that I wants comes.  Any idea how I can make it to go form Login to splash screen direclty? without showing the blue coloured screen?
[12:38] <_romeo> hmm
[12:38] <n3storm> Bambino: sorry, that belongs to the very nature of linux now
[12:39] <n3storm> The windows and graphics parts is an application over another application
[12:39] <n3storm> and inbetween you may see this kind of thins
[12:39] <n3storm> things
[12:39] <jlb> so, how do I paste into the konsole?
[12:39] <n3storm> is not like MsWindows
[12:39] <n3storm> jlb: mays+insert
[12:40] <jlb> mays?
[12:40] <n3storm> shift
[12:40] <jlb> oh, thx
[12:42] <Nakkel> Can anyone help me with the recent koffice 1.5 on Dapper? All the applications in koffice fail to start, giving "koffice (lib kofficecore): ERROR: kwordpart.desktop not found."
[12:42] <jlb> also, is it normal that sometimes, I have to open an application twice in order for it to open?  I will click on it, it will appear in the taskbar, then dissappear.  I have to click it twice in order to be able to open it.  It's not all the time and it can either be Amarok, or adept, nothing really specific..
[12:43] <n3storm> jlb: are you using dapper?
[12:43] <Vampis> *burp*
[12:45] <Bambino> can all the mouse themes on kde-look be used on kubuntu?
[12:45] <n3storm> Bambino: sure
[12:46] <Vampis> if you put em in the right directiry
[12:46] <Vampis> *spelling*
[12:46] <Vampis> :)
[12:46] <Vampis> But, well, "all"
[12:46] <Vampis> maybe some of them can't be used
[12:46] <Bambino> n3storm, Hmm. do I have todo something special? I download a file, and i go to perhipals or what its called and i try to load the tar file i donwloaded. and it says its incorect
[12:46] <jlb> no, it's breezy
[12:47] <Bambino> Vampis, what folder? and do i need to unpack it first?
[12:47] <jlb> What's a great P2P for downloading music?
[12:48] <Sgeo> How do I upgrade Celestia?
[12:48] <noteventime> jlb, fristwire?
[12:48] <noteventime> frost*
[12:49] <Vampis> ofcpurse onpack
[12:49] <Vampis> unpack *
[12:49] <_hendrik> ay
[12:49] <Vampis> /usr/share/themes i think
[12:50] <Bambino> Vampis, but how will the system know that its that mouse theme i want?
[12:50] <_hendrik> hmm can anyone tell me how to install Synaptic ?
[12:50] <HymnToLife> _hendrik> sudo apt-get install synaptic :)
[12:51] <n3storm> I am livng
[12:51] <Vampis> Bambino: run kcontrol
[12:51] <Vampis> and peripherals
[12:51] <Vampis> then mouse
[12:51] <Vampis> and Cursor themes
[12:52] <Mr_Presient> hi all, are there any xine users here?
[12:52] <Bambino> Vampis, hehe you did not read my question ;)
[12:52] <Bambino> Vampis, I said I did that :P but it cant load them.. i tried 4 different
[12:52] <_hendrik> HTL> that doesnt work, the Package cant be found
[12:52] <Vampis> hm, Did u try Install Theme ?
[12:52] <Vampis> The button,
[12:53] <Vampis> johnny3d: ? :)
[12:53] <dell500> anyone know what n! ='s in terms of the nth term? n(n-1)(n-2)??
[12:53] <johnny3d> *tap tap tap*  working on an hour and a half.  *breathe*
[12:54] <HymnToLife> _hendrik> it works here, check your sources.list
[12:54] <noteventime> #math
[12:55] <HymnToLife> dell500> n! = 1*2*3*...*n
[12:55] <HymnToLife> but that's slightly offtopic
[12:55] <_hendrik> _HTL>sorry the error message means: PAckage ist not available, but is referred by another package
[12:56] <_hendrik> _HTL>is there a command to get it from the web ?
[12:56] <HymnToLife> _hendrik> try running sudo apt-get update before
[12:56] <Bambino> Vampis, ye i did to no avail
[12:56] <HymnToLife> if it doesn't work thn, it means your sources.list is f***ed up
[12:57] <_hendrik> _HTL>same error message
[12:57] <Nakkel> Nobody else having problems with KOffice 1.5? Anyone?
[12:57] <noteventime> Nakkel, Mom, I'll try
[12:58] <HymnToLife> _hendrik> ok you need to fix your sources.list
[12:58] <jlb> So I downloaded a .deb file for an app.  what do I need to type in Konsole to get it going?
[12:58] <noteventime> nakkel, any specific app?
[12:58] <Vampis> Nakkel:  when I updated to Koffice 1.5 i couldnent open any .xls files
[12:58] <HymnToLife> _hendrik> open a terminak, run kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:58] <Vampis> so now i run Koffice 1.4
[12:58] <HymnToLife> jlb> sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[12:58] <jlb> thx
[12:58] <noteventime> jlb, Or use gdebi
[12:59] <Nakkel> I cant start any of the applications on the new 1.5 package. Gives "koffice (lib kofficecore): ERROR: kspreadpart.desktop not found."
[12:59] <noteventime> gdebi = Graphical DEB Installer
[12:59] <_hendrik> _HTL> ok
[12:59] <noteventime> Nakkel, I get the same error :)
[12:59] <HymnToLife> _hendrik> then delete everything and paste the contents of this file instead : http://fkraiem.no-ip.org/stuff/sources.list
[12:59] <jlb> I'd need to download that in adept?
[01:00] <noteventime> jlb, yes, you can get gdebi in apt (adept)
[01:01] <jlb> sweet
[01:03] <_hendrik> _HTL> done, now Iam updating ... I hope the Data are not too big, I got onli ISDN 64K DialUp
[01:04] <Nakkel> noteventime: Apparently you need to logout and back in to KDE to get KOffice to work. Got a hot tip from #koffice, worked for me. :P
[01:04] <HymnToLife> If you don't have GNOME installed you'll have approx. 12 MB to download
[01:04] <noteventime> Nakkel, Ok thanks ^^
[01:05] <_hendrik> _HTL> im using kde
[01:05] <HymnToLife> then that's it, about 12 MB
[01:06] <HymnToLife> hat's what it said I had to download to install Synaptic on my GUIless server
[01:08] <_hendrik> is there a way to stop it softly ?
[01:08] <HymnToLife> Ctrl+C will stop it
[01:08] <HymnToLife> what do you mean "softly" ?
[01:08] <_hendrik> the download
[01:09] <_hendrik> will it damage something ?
[01:09] <HymnToLife> no
[01:09] <jlb> Anyone know how I can use a USb printer if I dont' have the driver?  Should I select "RAW Printer"?  the system recognizes the printer, but it doesn't print.
[01:09] <Ranma> Hi all
[01:10] <dell500> HymnToLife, it's not the one i thought it was?
[01:10] <dell500> just to n? i thought you could get an equation for n! = besides just n
[01:11] <HymnToLife> well the definition of n! is 1*2*3*...*n what do you want ?
[01:11] <gleesond> is there a way to make the clock display 12 hour format instead of 24?
[01:11] <Vampis> yes''
[01:11] <Mr_Presient> is there an easy way to install libdvdcss on kubuntu?
[01:12] <Vampis> gleesond: in KDE Gnome fb bb or ewhat ?
[01:13] <Ranma> im wondering if someone can help me, when I unmount a device via kde and try to mount it via kde again i get an error that according to mtab is already mounted but konqueror shows the drive as empty
[01:13] <Haribo^> can i update breezy to flight 6 without reinstalling the whole system?
[01:14] <Vampis> Dunno
[01:14] <_hendrik> _HTL> it works, now i can install synaptic! Thx
[01:14] <Vampis> I reinstalled
[01:14] <nanotube> hello, does anyone know how to tell my linux box to do not download *386 kernel anymore but use and update *686 instead?
[01:14] <Haribo^> i mean, won't changing repos do the trick?
[01:15] <Blissex> nanotube: just install the 686 version explicitly with Synaptic or Aptitude and delete the other.
[01:16] <nanotube> Blissex: I did install 686 but system never update it by it self :-)
[01:17] <Blissex> nanotube: have you removed the other one? Anyhow, it should update, if there are updates.
[01:17] <nanotube> Blissex: have not remove the other , will do it now ant let you know..
[01:18] <gleesond> Vampis: KDE
[01:18] <leafw> any recommended XML editor for kubuntu ?
[01:18] <Apostle^> hm
[01:18] <doktoreas> hi to all guys!
[01:18] <Apostle^> hi
[01:18] <doktoreas> i need to build a live distro for a meeting..
[01:19] <doktoreas> can I add some package to kubuntu?
[01:19] <Apostle^> ok i'm switching to kde lol.
[01:19] <leafw> doktoreas: of course.
[01:19] <Apostle^> how do i change the theme kde uses?
[01:20] <doktoreas> leafw: do you know anything about some guide to change package?
[01:20] <nanotube> Blissex: I got the answer I think: I need to install linux-image-686 package:-))
[01:20] <leafw> doktoreas: there are tutorials out there. It's not hard to do.
[01:20] <Blissex> nanotube: yes, thats the 686 version...
[01:21] <Apostle^> how do i stop kde from using military time, and how do i change the theme.
[01:21] <nanotube> Blissex: I had linux-image-2.6*686 onlly before that is why int never update it self:-))
[01:22] <nanotube> Blissex: good problem solved- thanks:-)
[01:22] <doktoreas> leafw: i didn't found any tutorial :(
[01:25] <leafw> doktoreas: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveCDCustomizationHowTo
[01:25] <leafw> ehem.
[01:26] <doktoreas> leafw: thx, i look on kubuntu site
[01:26] <leafw> google is your friend.
[01:27] <Blissex> Apostle^: Control Centre, the 'Regional & Accessibility' subpanel, and the 'Appearance & Themes' subpanel/
[01:27] <Ranma> im wondering if someone can help me, when I unmount a device via kde and try to mount it via kde again i get an error that according to mtab is already mounted but konqueror shows the drive as empty
[01:28] <Blissex> leafw: depends what kind of XML editor you want, but look for Quanta or Amaya for example.
[01:28] <nanotube> Ranma: what kind of device it is?
[01:28] <Apostle^> Blissex: thanks
[01:29] <Ranma> nanotube: hdd
[01:29] <leafw> Blissex: ideally, one that shows a tree and a graph such as what can be made with JGraph
[01:29] <superbnerb> anyone know about eth1 broadcom and the 43xx thing?
[01:30] <Ranma> nanotube: my problem is only with hard disks, cause cdrom is running with subfs
[01:30] <Blissex> leafw: uhm, thats more like Amaya I think.
[01:30] <leafw> Blissex: thanks.
[01:30] <Blissex> Ranma: 'subfs' can cause a lot of bizarrities, same with 'udev' if it is running.
[01:30] <leafw> amaya is an html editor, if I remember correctly?
[01:30] <Apostle^> Blissex: do you know how i change the time ?
[01:30] <leafw> or viewer?
[01:31] <nanotube> Ranma: there are processes bind to this device try investigate with command fuser
[01:31] <Blissex> leafw: but all sorts questions like that can be answered with a search on FreshMeat.net or http://www.kde-apps.org/
[01:31] <leafw> xD
[01:31] <leafw> indeed
[01:31] <Ranma> Blissex: hahah didnt know i have both running, im going to test wich one is the problem
[01:32] <Blissex> leafw: note that Konqueror can display XML directly with a suitable CSS sheet.
[01:32] <Ranma> nanotube: i never used fuser how can i do it?
[01:32] <leafw> Blissex: the idea is to edit it as well
[01:34] <nanotube> Ranma: you can use : fuser -m /dev/hdd
[01:34] <nanotube> Ranma: this will map and show proccess bind to your device..
[01:35] <Blissex> Ranma: the problem probably is that both 'udev' and 'subfs' are tying to do automatic stuff and then you try to do it manually via KDE. Lots of potential conflicts...
[01:35] <Ranma> nanotube: ok and thanks
[01:36] <Apostle^> anyone know how to change from military time on kde ?
[01:36] <Ranma> Blissex: ok i will see stopping first one and then the other
[01:37] <nanotube> Ranma: You can also use fuser -mk /dev/hdd and this will also kill the processes however with harddisks it is big risk especially if they are mounte RW
[01:38] <gix> hi
[01:38] <Apostle^> anyone know how to change from military time on kde ?
[01:39] <Blissex> Apostle^: the KDE 'Regional & Accessibility'...
[01:40] <Apostle^> Blissex: i don't see the option anywhere
[01:41] <Blissex> Apostle^: 'Country Region & Language' and then the 'Dates' tab.
[01:41] <gix> someone knows to me to say as I make to connect itself to the net wireless
[01:41] <Blissex> Apostle^: 'Country Region & Language' and then the 'Time & Dates' tab.
[01:42] <Apostle^> Blissex: i'm their, i don't see how to make it non-military though
[01:42] <Blissex> Apostle^: type in a new pattern in the relevant selector...
[01:43] <Blissex> Apostle^: or select the right region in the higher menu.
[01:43] <Blissex> Apostle^: for example in 'Date format' I have "WEEKDAY DD MONTH YYYY" that is a non MIL style date pattern.
[01:44] <Apostle^> Blissex: okay i set it, but it didn'
[01:44] <Apostle^> change.
[01:44] <Ranma> Thanks to all for everything see ya latter
[01:44] <Blissex> Apostle^: but probably what you want is to set the right locale in the 'Locale' tab, that will set the date format right for your country's conventions.
[01:45] <Blissex> Apostle^: also, to set the date format for most program you need to change the system locale, look at 'man locale'
[01:45] <Apostle^> Blissex: i set it for N america still wrong time.
[01:45] <Apostle^> wrong format that is
[01:46] <Blissex> Apostle^: perhaps you have to restart the relevant application. Sometimes changes are not instantaneous.
[01:46] <Apostle^> Blissex: it's the kde clock
[01:46] <Blissex> Apostle^: then it is different -- right click on in and select the obvious choice.
[01:47] <Snake__> Apostle^: You need to restart X before your clock will change if you went from a 24 to 12 hour format
[01:47] <Apostle^> Blissex: i set it for ny still wrong lol
[01:48] <Apostle^> Snake__: oh okay thanks, how do i save my kde session?
[01:48] <Snake__> mmmm
[01:48] <Blissex> Apostle^: it is not just the time zone, the format too... And the type of display
[01:48] <Snake__> Apostle^: log out first, then restart X from the login screen
[01:51] <leafw> where are the logs for apt-get ? The /var/log/aptitude is empty, and the aptitude.1.gz is from last summer ???
[01:51] <crimsun> apt-get doesn't have a log
[01:52] <leafw> crimsun: hum, I think it does.
[01:52] <Snake__> leafw: I dont think it does
[01:52] <crimsun> _aptitude_ does, not apt-get
[01:52] <leafw> at least, the dpkg running underneath should
[01:53] <leafw> gotcha, /var/log/dpkg.log
[01:53] <Snake__> leafw: /var/log/dpkg.log
[01:53] <Snake__> darn
[01:53] <Snake__> :)
[01:53] <Steven_M> has anyone here ever installed libdvdcss?
[01:54] <Snake__> Apostle^: hows it doin
[01:54] <Apostle^> Snake__: good, it worked
[01:54] <Snake__> Yay
[01:54] <Apostle^> Snake__: im absolutely loving kde, 10x better then gnome
[01:54] <Snake__> Apostle^: Im in gnome right now, I miss my KDE
[01:54] <Apostle^> hehe
[01:57] <rob138> how do i change the transparency of non active windows, i'm using xgl and it is pretty slow without compiz...
[01:58] <Apostle^> rob138:  isn't it like control+alt+scrollwheel
[01:58] <rob138> what?
[02:00] <me2win> rob138: its alt+scroll wheel
[02:01] <rob138> it doesn't do anything but scroll in the inactive window
[02:06] <rob138> also, is there a way to configure kde to use my volume scroller on my dell keyboard?
[02:07] <Apostle^> where is karamba located in the apps?
[02:14] <Glyph1> how do i connect to Google Talk useing kopete?
[02:16] <Glyph1> /disconnect
[02:16] <Glyph1> opps
[02:31] <jlb> can someone help me with an issue i'm having mounting a drive?
[02:31] <mark---> Should my 5.10 Breezy be able to recognize an external (via firewire) Plextor DVD?
[02:33] <jlb> I have Windows XP install on a seperate SATA hard drive.  I mounted the drive earlier, but needed to reinstall kubuntu since the kdmgreet crashed and I couldn't log in.  This time when I mount it, I get a message that says, "warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab
[02:35] <mark---> jlb: just a guess, but that error may be telling you that a carriage return (or return) is needed at the end of your fstab.
[02:35] <mark---> You might be able to check that fairly easily and with low risk.
[02:36] <InteliWasp> what do i need to do in order to use java in 5.10?
[02:36] <_pip> Hello?
[02:36] <jlb> hmm..will try
[02:36] <word> What should I do if uh phpmyadmin doesn't want to uninstall? db_get command not recognized error.
[02:41] <jlb> mark: I'm getting it listed in storage and media, but it's not mounted and when I try to mount it, it says only root can mount it. I did it as sudo in the Konsole and it says that  it's already mounted.  Should I delete it from fstab and mount in Konsole as sudo?
[02:47] <vniki> HI ALL!!!
[02:48] <vniki> hi all
[03:16] <Apostle^> kde tells me i'm using like 900MB physical memory, how do i figure out why
[03:18] <Bambino> I want a special app to be started with KDE everytime i start my system, how do I do that?
[03:19] <noiesmo> Bambino, put script in /home/blah/.kde/Autostart
[03:19] <johnny3d> blah?  aw crap someone guessed my username....
[03:19] <Bambino> noiesmo, how would that script look like?
[03:21] <johnny3d> lots of typing, some spaces, etc. etc.
[03:21] <noiesmo> Bambino, http://pastebin.com/656857 starts my xscreensaver
[03:21] <noiesmo> Bambino, full path to app is prefered
[03:22] <Bambino> noiesmo, I wanna start conky so i type like that, but the second row is just "conky" ?
[03:23] <noiesmo> Bambino, if conky is in your path ie you can just type conky at commandline
[03:23] <Bambino> noiesmo, aha ok thanks! ;)
[03:23] <noiesmo> Bambino, np
[03:27] <noiesmo> Bambino, dont forget to chmod +x the script
[03:27] <Bambino> noiesmo, ah! thanks
[03:30] <ramesh> test
[03:30] <Apostle^> how do i configure the settings of a superkaramba applet
[03:34] <CheeseBurgerMan> Apostle^: Right click and go to 'configure theme'
[03:35] <Apostle^> CheeseBurgerMan: yea, thanks
[03:35] <CheeseBurgerMan> NP.
[03:36] <CheeseBurgerMan> If it's greyed out, you'll have to edit either the theme itself (usually stored in ~/.kde/share/apps/superkaramba), although that mostly just lets you edit it's looks. Depends on the theme though.
[03:40] <Bambino> noiesmo, did not work =( I wrote this line: and chmod it
[03:40] <Bambino> #!/bin/bash
[03:40] <Bambino> /usr/bin/conky
[03:45] <noiesmo> Bambino, hmm run which conky to confirm path
[03:45] <Bambino> noiesmo, i did i typoed /usr/bin/conky  and it started
[03:46] <Apostle^> how do i stop removeable devices such as cd's from showing up on the desktop?
[03:47] <CheeseBurgerMan> Control Center > Desktop > Behavior > Device Icons tab
[03:47] <Apostle^> CheeseBurgerMan: thanks
[03:47] <CheeseBurgerMan> You're welcome
[03:48] <Apostle^> man i love kde
[03:48] <Apostle^> never going back to gnome ;-P
[03:49] <noiesmo> Bambino, try with chmod 755 on the file you put in autostart directory
[03:50] <Bambino> noiesmo, k
[03:52] <_pip> hello,I need help!
[03:52] <CheeseBurgerMan> OK, what do you need help with?
[03:53] <_pip> CheeseBurgerMan: please give me a ftp tool to use!
[03:53] <Kyral> ftp :P
[03:53] <Kyral> or Konqoror
[03:53] <TehUni> i need to connect to an exchange server to retrieve my contacts and calendar. i need almost all functionality (meaning more than owa stuff). is my best bet going to be using wine and installing office2k ?
[03:53] <CheeseBurgerMan> gftp and kbear come to mind if you don't wanna use the console. ;)
[03:53] <_pip> Kyral: Yes
[03:53] <_pip> FTP tool
[03:53] <Kyral> _pip: literally ftp
[03:53] <Kyral> in the console
[03:53] <_pip> Kyral: what ?
[03:54] <Kyral> thats the name of the program
[03:54] <Kyral> ftp
[03:54] <CheeseBurgerMan> Open Konsole
[03:54] <_pip> Kyral: does Kubuntu have his own ftp tool ?
[03:54] <CheeseBurgerMan> and type ftp - it's a program
[03:54] <noiesmo> _pip, http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/FTP.html
[03:54] <Kyral> _pip: its the standard Linux FTP program thats almost on every distro
[03:54] <_pip> CheeseBurgerMan: OK.open console
[03:55] <Kyral> I fail to see the reason for it to have its own FTP program when FTP (the program) works perfectly
[03:55] <_pip> CheeseBurgerMan: roger.you know I am a freshman.
[03:55] <CheeseBurgerMan> I am as well. :P
[03:55] <_pip> Ch
[03:55] <Kyral> and I am an insane tweaker who loves to push his system to the limit
[03:55] <CheeseBurgerMan> lol
[03:55] <_pip> CheeseBurgerMan: oh, I need a graphic based tool of ftp
[03:55] <Kyral> Sysinfo for 'HyperDream': Linux 2.6.16-beyond running KDE 3.5.2, CPU: AMD Athlon XP 2700+ at 2166 MHz (4337 bogomips), HD: 278/429GB, RAM: 723/1011MB, 77 proc's, 15.43min up
[03:56] <CheeseBurgerMan> _pip: Then as I   said, gftp or kbear
[03:56] <Kyral> Konqeror has an KIOSlave for FTP IIRC
[03:56] <CheeseBurgerMan> Or you can get Firefox 1.5 and get FireFTP
[03:56] <CheeseBurgerMan> Or use Konqueror ;)
[03:56] <TehUni> can anyone help me with my exchange problem?
[03:56] <Kyral> I <3 the Fish Protocol :D
[03:56] <CheeseBurgerMan> Sorry, TehUni. Don't use exchange
[03:57] <_pip> CheeseBurgerMan: I think that is not easy to get
[03:57] <CheeseBurgerMan> Which one?
[03:58] <CheeseBurgerMan> konqueror is preinstalled. Firefox 1.5 you just download and untar, gftp and kbear you can get with apt
[03:58] <_pip> CheeseBurgerMan: where is konqeror?
[03:58] <CheeseBurgerMan> K Menu > Internet
[03:59] <_pip> CheeseBurgerMan: I tried,but couldn't!
[03:59] <noiesmo> kftpgrabber is good gui for ftp avail thru apt
[03:59] <CheeseBurgerMan> Couldn't what?
[03:59] <_pip> CheeseBurgerMan: I tried to sudo apt-get install gftp ,but no
[03:59] <CheeseBurgerMan> !repos
[03:59] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[03:59] <CheeseBurgerMan> Gotta enable universe and multiverse first. :)
[04:00] <_pip> Kubuntu is not easy to use
[04:01] <CheeseBurgerMan> It's not hard once you get used to it
[04:01] <CheeseBurgerMan> Just slightly different from Windows
[04:01] <_pip> CheeseBurgerMan: which on in internet menu?
[04:01] <noiesmo> due the on that says internet
[04:01] <noiesmo> s/due/dude
[04:02] <CheeseBurgerMan> K Menu (the "K" on the lower left), into the Internet menu, into "Web Browser (Konqueror)"
[04:02] <Kyral> Goddamn my overheating
[04:02] <Kyral> Sysinfo for 'HyperDream': Linux 2.6.16-beyond running KDE 3.5.2, CPU: AMD Athlon XP 2100+ at 1300 MHz (2603 bogomips), HD: 278/429GB, RAM: 373/1011MB, 84 proc's, 3.47min up
[04:02] <Kyral> I had to drop my CPU clock down to 1.3 GHz
[04:03] <_pip> CheeseBurgerMan: then,if I use ftp in console mode ,how can I connect to another computer?
[04:03] <CheeseBurgerMan> _pip: Not sure. Never used ftp.
[04:03] <TehUni> _pip: type "open ftp.server.com"
[04:04] <_pip> CheeseBurgerMan: is there an ftp tool in Konqueror?
[04:04] <noiesmo> _pip, check this howto http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/FTP.html
[04:04] <CheeseBurgerMan> the program....I've used the ftp protocol
[04:05] <_pip> CheeseBurgerMan: should I download something?
[04:05] <CheeseBurgerMan> _pip: Just enable multiverse &  universe and install gftp or kbear
[04:06] <_pip> CheeseBurgerMan: OK
[04:08] <_pip> CheeseBurgerMan: how to enable multiverse and universe ?
[04:08] <CheeseBurgerMan> ubotu: tell _pip about repos
[04:09] <CheeseBurgerMan> ubotu should've told you how to do it
[04:09] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, CheeseBurgerMan
[04:10] <_pip> CheeseBurgerMan: hey,who is this guy?
[04:10] <CheeseBurgerMan> The channel bot
[04:10] <_pip> CheeseBurgerMan: so clever
[04:11] <CheeseBurgerMan> Yep. He's quite convenient.
[04:11] <CheeseBurgerMan> I don't have to remember links. ;)
[04:11] <TehUni> what are the packages i need to install to compile my own stuff
[04:11] <_pip> CheeseBurgerMan: it's wonderful,ah!
[04:12] <TehUni> seems like there was a build-essential or something like that...
[04:12] <CheeseBurgerMan> TehUni: sudo apt-get build-essential
[04:12] <CheeseBurgerMan> yep
[04:12] <TehUni> oh
[04:12] <TehUni> heh
[04:12] <TehUni> should've tried first, i guess
[04:12] <_pip> ubotu: tell CheeseBurgerMan Thank you a lot!
[04:14] <CheeseBurgerMan> Did it work?
[04:14] <_pip> ubotu: tell CheeseBurgerMan -thank you very much!
[04:14] <_pip> CheeseBurgerMan: No
[04:15] <_pip> CheeseBurgerMan: He refused
[04:15] <CheeseBurgerMan> Ah, it's not built in.
[04:15] <_pip> CheeseBurgerMan: what's the problem?
[04:15] <_pip> CheeseBurgerMan: he seems not be friendly to me
[04:16] <CheeseBurgerMan> ubotu only has specific commands, 'thank you very much' isn't one of them.
[04:16] <ubotu> CheeseBurgerMan: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[04:16] <CheeseBurgerMan> Oh, and you can't start your message with his name either
[04:16] <_pip> CheeseBurgerMan: Oh,so how to ....
[04:17] <CheeseBurgerMan> Because then he tells you he doesn't know what you're talking about (like he did with me)
[04:17] <_pip> CheeseBurgerMan: do you use Adept?
[04:17] <CheeseBurgerMan> Sometimes, other times I just use a console
[04:20] <_pip> CheeseBurgerMan: you are high efficiency,how do you reach that style of working?
[04:20] <CheeseBurgerMan> Um, practice
[04:21] <CheeseBurgerMan> And reading stuff here/helping people with what I know
[04:22] <_pip> CheeseBurgerMan: where is the stuff here? I know so less
[04:22] <CheeseBurgerMan> Just read what people say when there are guys who need help - you learn it after the same question is answered 50 times. ;)
[04:23] <_pip> CheeseBurgerMan: I see!
[04:24] <CheeseBurgerMan> Then you can help people, and give the guys who answered it another thousand times before you came in a break. ;)
[04:27] <_pip> CheeseBurgerMan: I feel that KDE works slower than gnome ,and you ?
[04:27] <CheeseBurgerMan> I haven't really noticed a speed difference, but I very rarely used GNOME
[04:27] <CheeseBurgerMan> use*
[04:31] <_pip> CheeseBurgerMan: Should I only talk about problems with kubuntu?
[04:31] <CheeseBurgerMan> _pip: Well, in this channel it should be kubuntu related, not necessarily about problems.
[04:31] <CheeseBurgerMan> Other stuff goes in #kubuntu-offtopic
[04:34] <_pip> CheeseBurgerMan: Can I go for admin here ?
[04:35] <CheeseBurgerMan> you mean be an op?
[04:35] <CheeseBurgerMan> No. Only special people get ops. ;)
[04:35] <_pip> CheeseBurgerMan: yeah
[04:35] <_pip> CheeseBurgerMan: I see!
[04:36] <robotgeek> _pip: the general rule is, if you ask for it, you don't get it :)
[04:36] <CellarDoor> hello all
[04:38] <CellarDoor> anyone awake ?
[04:38] <robotgeek> CellarDoor: you ahve a question?
[04:38] <TehUni> i need to connect to an exchange server to retrieve my contacts and calendar. i need almost all functionality (meaning more than owa stuff). is my best bet going to be using wine and installing office2k ?
[04:39] <CellarDoor> robotgeek: not really
[04:39] <robotgeek> TehUni: not sure, maybe kmail/kontact can pull it, not sure. try it?
[04:39] <CellarDoor> I don't suppose anyone has any kde4/plasma screenshots at all
[04:39] <CellarDoor> :P
[04:40] <robotgeek> CellarDoor: kde4 is very unusable right now, i think they got kate working on it a month ago
[04:40] <CellarDoor> I know
[04:41] <CellarDoor> I still wanna see :P
[04:41] <kameron> any way to get kmplayer to auto shutoff the screensaver?
[04:44] <CellarDoor> robotgeek: I'm like a kid who wants to take a peek at the christmas prezzies
[04:45] <lilfade> ok i need some help
[04:45] <robotgeek> CellarDoor: can help you there :)
[04:45] <robotgeek> lilfade: don't ask to ask, just ask :)
[04:46] <CellarDoor> :$
[04:47] <CellarDoor> robotgeek: really ?
[04:47] <lilfade> i was using konqueror for ftping files but then it just quit working. i called my hosting company but they said it worked for them. Now i just reinstalled kubuntu and it still wont work. Im wondering if this is just me or my webserver?
[04:47] <robotgeek> CellarDoor: oops, i meant can't
[04:47] <CellarDoor> dang
[04:47] <CellarDoor> Its all so secretive
[04:47] <robotgeek> lilfade: sftp maybe? lots of hosting companies don't have ftp enabled (mine doesn't)
[04:49] <lilfade> but now i cant connect to my web page at all. can someone try its http://www.d2ih.org
[04:49] <robotgeek> lilfade: anyways, you could try ftp://ftp.gnu.org/pub
[04:50] <lilfade> every time i try to connect to any of my domains it says cant connect to host blah blah but i can connect to any other website
[04:50] <robotgeek> lilfade: i can connect
[04:50] <CheeseBurgerMan> Same hrer
[04:50] <CheeseBurgerMan> here*
[04:50] <lilfade> ip maybe?
[04:50] <lilfade> how can i release my ip and get a new one?
[05:05] <word> What's wrong if when you use kdetv or any other basic tv program it only finds channel 2 and thinks it's channels 1-140 or something?
[05:07] <word> I've searched on google and apparently this problem isn't common ( I couldn't find i through 4 pages) and people have successfully used htis tv tuner card with linux
[05:07] <jlb> can anyone tell me why an update would error in adept?  I've downloaded it before.
[05:07] <word> what error?
[05:08] <nrdb> I am wondering if it is possible to use the USB devices that allow two computer to network over a USB connection in Linux?
[05:08] <frozenBit> I'm having trouble to install firefox. Could anyone help me ?
[05:09] <CheeseBurgerMan> frozenBit: What problem?
[05:09] <jlb> I am trying to amarok to play mp3 files.  It says to enable two repositories for "universal backport breezy".  I enable them, fetch updates and one of them says "error".  I need to get libmad0 gstreamer0.8-mad
[05:11] <CheeseBurgerMan> What does it say when you run 'sudo apt-get update' ?
[05:11] <jlb> is there a GUI alternative to adept for kubuntu?
[05:11] <word> try disabling that repository or is it the one you get it from?
[05:12] <frozenBit> CheeseBurgerMan: I try to install it with Kynaptic, but it finished installing and I can't run it... just like I had never installed
[05:12] <jlb> I am trying to get that update from that repository
[05:12] <word> from what cheeseburgerman said what does it do when you run sudo apt-get update?
[05:13] <frozenBit> what is the command to install firefox using apt-get ?
[05:13] <robotgeek> frozenBit: sudo apt-get install firefox
[05:13] <jlb> it's breezy-backports/universal packages that's erroring out.
[05:14] <frozenBit> robotgeek: I have already tried this
[05:14] <jlb> YA'LL ready for it?
[05:15] <robotgeek> frozenBit: what do you mean?
[05:15] <jlb> Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-backports/universe Packages
[05:15] <jlb>   Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[05:15] <jlb> Fetched 5B in 1s (3B/s)
[05:15] <jlb> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-backports/universe/binary-amd64/Packages.gz  Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[05:15] <jlb> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[05:15] <jlb> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[05:15] <Dasnipa`> eek
[05:15] <CheeseBurgerMan> Close Kynaptic
[05:15] <Dasnipa`> !spam
[05:15] <ubotu> hmm... spam is Stupid Pointless Annoying Messages, or the pork luncheon meat who's name is the acronym of Shoulder of Pork and hAM
[05:15] <noiesmo> jlb, this means apt is already running
[05:15] <frozenBit> robotgeek: I ran sudo apt-get install firefox but it couldn't find the package
[05:16] <robotgeek> jlb: pasting is rude, please use a pastebin if you ahve more than 3 lines
[05:16] <CheeseBurgerMan> frozenBit: Enable universe/multiverse
[05:16] <kameron> is the kde screensaver still broken in kubuntu?
[05:16] <robotgeek> !info firefox
[05:16] <CheeseBurgerMan> ubotu: tell frozenBit about repos
[05:16] <ubotu> firefox: (lightweight web browser based on Mozilla), section web, is optional. Version: 1.0.7-0ubuntu20 (breezy), Packaged size: 8268 kB, Installed size: 23932 kB
[05:16] <jlb> I don't know the first thing about paste bins
[05:16] <frozenBit> CheeseBurgerMan: how can i do this ?
[05:16] <robotgeek> jlb, don't paste in here. Please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[05:16] <noiesmo> kameron, not sure I switched to xscreensaver
[05:16] <CheeseBurgerMan> frozenBit: Look at what ubotu told you. ;)
[05:16] <kameron> noiesmo: yeah, i did too.. i'd rather use the kde one too.
[05:16] <robotgeek> frozenBit: no need to enable repos, can you paste your sources.list ?
[05:17] <kameron> Dasnipa`: i've always known spam as Specially Prepared Assorted Meat.. but ubotu could be right.
[05:17] <CheeseBurgerMan> Really? I needed to for Firefox
[05:17] <frozenBit> robotgeek: where can i find it ?
[05:17] <CheeseBurgerMan> /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:19] <frozenBit> deb cdrom:[Kubuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog_ - Release i386 (20050407)] / hoary main restricted
[05:19] <frozenBit> ## Uncomment the following two lines to fetch updated software from the network
[05:19] <frozenBit> # deb http://br.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted
[05:19] <frozenBit> # deb-src http://br.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted
[05:19] <frozenBit> ## Uncomment the following two lines to fetch major bug fix updates produced
[05:19] <frozenBit> ## after the final release of the distribution.
[05:20] <frozenBit> # deb http://br.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-updates main restricted
[05:20] <Wizz_kidd> man kubuntu dapper was a messsss
[05:20] <frozenBit> # deb-src http://br.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-updates main restricted
[05:20] <frozenBit> ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'universe'
[05:20] <frozenBit> ## repository.
[05:20] <jlb> noisemo: try this and let me know what you think I could do next. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12138
[05:20] <frozenBit> ## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu
[05:20] <frozenBit> ## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to
[05:20] <frozenBit> ## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in
[05:20] <robotgeek> frozenBit: don't paste in here, really.
[05:20] <jlb> hey robotgeek, you better jump on that whole pasting thing
[05:21] <jlb> you may remember me from last few days, I said the f-word in here.
[05:21] <robotgeek> frozenBit: please use the pastebin from next time
[05:22] <bins> use http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/
[05:22] <Wizz_kidd> is breezy better then DAPPER ??
[05:22] <noiesmo> jlb, do ps ax |grep dpkg then try kill the process
[05:22] <jlb> noisemo: should I copy the test you have in there?
[05:23] <CheeseBurgerMan> Wizz_kidd: dapper is still in alpha - unless you really know wha you're doing, use breezy
[05:23] <noiesmo> jlb,  ps ax |grep dpkg
[05:23] <jlb> what does that do?
[05:23] <jlb> kill apt?
[05:23] <Wizz_kidd> dapper was a messsss
[05:24] <noiesmo> jlb, it will list the process running and only display the dpkg process
[05:24] <jlb> it returned blank
[05:24] <jlb> apt isn't a running process.  Plus, this errors out the same way even if I restart.
[05:24] <noiesmo> jlb, ok do  ps ax |grep apt
[05:25] <jlb>  9478 ?        S      0:04 konversation -caption Konversation -icon konversation -miniicon konversation
[05:25] <jlb> 10262 pts/1    R+     0:00 grep apt
[05:26] <noiesmo> jlb, ok not sure sorry
[05:26] <jlb> lol, it's ok
[05:27] <jlb> noisemo, two questions:  How do I text in red?  And can I apt get this specific package?
[05:28] <robotgeek> jlb: colors in here?
[05:28] <word> anyone here know what it means if tvtime and kdetv only find 1 station when they run?
[05:28] <CheeseBurgerMan> You get poor reception?
[05:29] <CheeseBurgerMan> Yes, robotgeek. Colors...
[05:29] <robotgeek> i don't think you can do colors in here, lemme check
[05:29] <robotgeek> you shouldn't, btwe
[05:29] <word> it's through a cattv cable that gets around 70 channels
[05:30] <word> So I doubt it's the result of poor reception and I used the windows software that comes with ti (Sucks really bad) and it found the channels fine...before it crashed itself.
[05:30] <jlb> when someone speaks to me, it's red, why?
[05:30] <CheeseBurgerMan> Oh
[05:30] <CheeseBurgerMan> It's highlighted
[05:31] <word> to show how voilent they're speaking to you?
[05:31] <CheeseBurgerMan> That happens when somone says your name
[05:31] <CheeseBurgerMan> lol
[05:31] <CheeseBurgerMan> It helps to get your attention, or that's the idea.
[05:31] <word> CheeseBurgerMan: So do you know what could be wrong?
[05:31] <CheeseBurgerMan> No, I don't have a TV tuner in my computer, and haven't used any of the software
[05:32] <jlb> cheeseburgerman:  this is highlighted?
[05:32] <CheeseBurgerMan> For me it is
[05:32] <jlb> sweet, I was unsure
[05:33] <jlb> any way to listen to mp3's with amarok?  I have tried using gstreamer, but I can't download the breezy package for it.
[05:34] <word> why don't you continue to try to download the package...restart your computer...close some apps...stupid things that might fix it :-/ you might get lucky
[05:34] <jlb> k
[05:35] <CheeseBurgerMan> jlb: Try installing amarok-xine
[05:36] <jlb> i'll just use xine.  it's working
[05:36] <jlb> oh, cheesburgerman, didn't see that
[05:36] <jlb> thx
[05:36] <CheeseBurgerMan> :)
[05:36] <CheeseBurgerMan> NP
[05:37] <jlb> great geeks think alike
[05:37] <CheeseBurgerMan> lol
[05:38] <jlb> didn't turn my speakers down, owch!!
[05:38] <CheeseBurgerMan> lol, I've done that
[05:38] <jlb> now...did I hear something about firfox on kubuntu???!!
[05:39] <CheeseBurgerMan> It works...
[05:39] <CheeseBurgerMan> I'm running 1.5.0.1 :P
[05:39] <jlb> instructions?  is it just "sudo apt-get firefox?
[05:40] <CheeseBurgerMan> That's only 1.0.7
[05:40] <CheeseBurgerMan> Just download 1.5.0.1 from mozilla.com, untar it, and run the firefox executable
[05:40] <robotgeek> jlb, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[05:40] <CheeseBurgerMan> Or better yet...look there
[05:41] <jlb> can't get this kinda s**t with windows users, I must say.  Oh, robot, I censored that out for you.
[05:42] <jlb> I got the same error message about breezy backport.  Couldn't finish the download.  Will restart.
[05:43] <jlb> Any reason why file search can't search a mounted NTFS drive?
[05:43] <jlb> I have to copy my mp3's over, they are in seperate artist folder and if I can't use kubuntu search, I will have to go into Windows and do it there...
[05:44] <johnny3d> jlb ftp the files and download them
[05:45] <jlb> ftp takes forever.  I'm running 64-bit and last time 8.8GB took under 3min. to copy from one drive to the other.
[05:45] <CheeseBurgerMan> Ah, another amd64 user
[05:45] <jlb> lol
[05:46] <jlb> thx
[05:46] <CheeseBurgerMan> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava <--- use that instead
[05:46] <CheeseBurgerMan> works like a charm. :)
[05:46] <jlb> I truly enjoy it.  Kubuntu doesn't too well, but I think that it's great.
[05:46] <CheeseBurgerMan> lol
[05:48] <CheeseBurgerMan> Only problem is that 90% of all packages are exclusively i386
[05:48] <jlb> not for long.
[05:48] <jlb> Oh, and thanks for the link, it's working
[05:49] <jlb> And did you know, Jenna Jameson exclusively uses 64bit?
[05:49] <CheeseBurgerMan> No, I didn't
[05:50] <jlb> not really.  But that'd be freakin' sweet if she did.
[05:51] <johnny3d> bleah
[06:13] <word> Anyone know lots about tv tuner apps?
[06:25] <jlb> robotgeek:  is it possible to install a Gzip file?  I couldn't install an update file through sudo apt-get update.  I downloaded the gzip file it couldn't retrieve, how would I be able to install it?
[06:26] <robotgeek> jlb: it might have cribbed about the gz file (which is a list of packages) just cause it might be out of sync
[06:27] <word> there are tutorials around just search "install tarball linux''
[06:27] <jlb> robotgeek:what do you mean?
[06:28] <robotgeek> jlb: can you paste your sources.list ?
[06:28] <jlb> wouldn't it just be gunzip -c filename.gz ?
[06:28] <jlb> Sure, hold on.
[06:28] <word> jlb: not in chat
[06:29] <Kyral> Meh back to GNOME
[06:30] <jlb> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/657034
[06:33] <robotgeek> jlb: and you are not able to install firefox?
[06:34] <word> jlb: if you're really desperate just try installing wine and install the windows version of firefox that's the easy way out.
[06:43] <jlb> nope, can't install firefox either.
[06:44] <jlb> if you were to run the update, does it work fine for you?/
[06:45] <word> with wine?
[06:45] <robotgeek> jlb: i am on dapper, so all that probably doesn't apply to me :)
[06:45] <word> jlb: you can't install firefox through wine?
[06:45] <jlb> don't know if I want to do that
[06:46] <word> try it anyway you can always uninstall it
[06:46] <robotgeek> jlb: can you pastebin?
[06:46] <jlb> yesss
[06:46] <robotgeek> your error, or link
[06:46] <jlb> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/657034
[06:47] <robotgeek> jlb: you also had a paste for the error?
[06:47] <jlb> which error.  the only one I recall is for sudo apt-get update
[06:48] <robotgeek> jlb: also output of "apt-cache show firefox"
[06:49] <jlb> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/657049
[06:50] <robotgeek> jlb: try commenting out the backport, "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install firefox" shoudl work
[06:50] <jlb> explain that in ID10T talk
[06:51] <robotgeek> jlb: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/657051
[06:51] <jlb> same thing
[06:51] <robotgeek> howdy Hobbsee
[06:52] <Hobbsee> hi robotgeek
[06:53] <jlb> what's in that pastebin?
[06:53] <robotgeek> jlb: use that sources.list
[06:53] <jlb> k
[06:57] <jlb> robotgeek: what did you change?  It worked.  You da man, all that stuff, etc. etc.
[06:57] <robotgeek> jlb: commented out backports?
[06:57] <jlb> no, the sources.list file change did it.
[06:57] <jlb> Got the updates and it worked.
[06:57] <robotgeek> jlb: i'm happy for you :)
[06:58] <jlb> only one question.  Why would I have a bad comment in a sources file from fresh install?
[06:58] <Hobbsee> what was the bad comment?
[06:59] <jlb> Oh, the one that was causing it was disabled.  that's why
[06:59] <Hobbsee> ah ok
[07:16] <word> Why would some mp3's but not all not play properly in amarok but be fine in Beep music player?
[07:17] <vinboy> hi
[07:17] <vinboy> how do I disable the window minimise & maximise animation?
[07:18] <word> there's an animation? o.O
[07:19] <word> right click on the bar and go to config window behaviour
[07:20] <word> vinboy: then click on moving and then uncheck animate minimize and restore
[07:20] <word> vinboy: Ok?
[07:22] <vinboy> word: sorry, where do I find the window behavior?
[07:27] <tciori> hello
[07:28] <tciori> ne newbabies in the room?
[07:28] <vinboy> yes
[08:00] <noaXess> good morning
[08:00] <robotgeek> moring
[08:02] <_jer> hi.. how can i get libstdc++.so.5
[08:03] <robotgeek> _jer: sudo apt-get install libstdc++5
[08:03] <_jer> thanks!
[08:03] <Syco54645> is it just me or does kde not work well for most everyone
[08:03] <Syco54645> bah
[08:03] <Syco54645> k3b
[08:04] <robotgeek> Syco54645: maybe just you
[08:04] <Syco54645> sorry i meant k3b
[08:04] <robotgeek> Syco54645: still :)
[08:04] <robotgeek> Syco54645: anyways, what issue do you have?
[08:04] <Syco54645> robotgeek: well i always have to set the burning speed, if i leave it on error it doesnt burn right
[08:05] <Syco54645> my fifo buffer is always going up and down like crazy
[08:05] <Syco54645> but dma is on
[08:05] <Syco54645> when i burn dvd video it often skips in the dvd player and on the computer
[08:05] <robotgeek> Syco54645: never burnt dvd's , sorry
[08:05] <Syco54645> hmmm
[08:06] <Syco54645> well go burn one them help me some more
[08:06] <robotgeek> Syco54645: buy me a dvd burner :)
[08:06] <Syco54645> but music cds often burn with skips as well
[08:06] <Syco54645> i have tried even doing 1x
[08:10] <_jer> what will i do (look below)?
[08:10] <_jer> configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[08:11] <jonathan_> sudo apt-get build-essential
[08:11] <jonathan_> that's what you will do
[08:11] <_jer> ok.. thanks
[08:11] <jonathan_> i might be wrong on the spelling but that's the package
[08:11] <jonathan_> jer, what by chance are you intalling with that
[08:12] <rockin_stan> jonathan_, nope, speeling is right ;)
[08:12] <_jer> E: Invalid operation build-essential <- it says
[08:12] <rockin_stan> syou forgot the "install"
[08:12] <jonathan_> lol....duh
[08:13] <chx> How could I attch a screenshot to a bug report?
[08:13] <rockin_stan> _jer, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:13] <jonathan_> my gosh, I have been doing that all night
[08:13] <rockin_stan> rofl
[08:13] <jonathan_> i had class tonight and I couldn't answer a damn thing right
[08:13] <chx> It's important -- the screenshot itself is the bug report
[08:14] <_jer> i'm installing gtk+-2.8.9 ..
[08:15] <jonathan_> ah
[08:17] <jonathan_> you know, I was reading in the forums just now, I noticed a comment someone said. If hardware doesn't work in M$ it's an inconvenience. If it goes wrong in Linux, it's a faulty OS.
[08:17] <jonathan_> That's about how some feel too....it's annoying
[08:19] <robotgeek> chx: you can submit, then attach in the next post
[08:19] <weedar> Can anyone reccommend a program to record sound that definetly WORKS with a usb microphone?
[08:20] <jonathan_> audacity doesn't?
[08:20] <chx> robotgeek: thanks! https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/39400 is posted.
[08:20] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 39400 in kdebase "Colors do not apply to the menu bar" [Normal,Unconfirmed] 
[08:21] <chx> wow, does Ubugtu run on the same machine -- or how it's so fast?
[08:21] <chx> our bot is not this fast...
[08:21] <weedar> jonathan_, no - it won't let me choose /dev/dsp1
[08:22] <chx> how it is possible that I got /dev/dsp and /dev/dsp2 ????
[08:22] <jonathan_> let me look
[08:22] <jonathan_> http://audacityteam.org/forum/forum.php?req=thread&id=312
[08:22] <jonathan_> check that
[08:23] <weedar> Hm, that looks familiar.. I think I might have tried the solutions in that thread, but I'll give it another go. Thanks jonathan_  =)
[08:24] <jonathan_> let me see if i can find anything else
[08:26] <weedar> Brilliant jonathan_ !
[08:26] <jonathan_> lol...does it work?
[08:26] <weedar> no
[08:26] <weedar> I was referring to you finding anything else ;)
[08:26] <jonathan_> dang,...don't say brilliant then...
[08:26] <jonathan_> lol
[08:26] <chx> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/657110 my HDD dying????
[08:26] <jonathan_> i was being hopeful :-)
[08:27] <weedar> haha
[08:27] <chx> i have three such line pairs in 48 hours
[08:28] <jonathan_> weedar, how advanced do you want to go? :-)
[08:29] <weedar> This is my day off - I'll do "anything" to get this to work
[08:29] <jonathan_> well, there is one called ardour
[08:29] <_jer> any suggestions in installing gtk+-2.8.9
[08:29] <_jer> ?
[08:30] <jonathan_> i might look at rezound first
[08:30] <jonathan_> http://rezound.sourceforge.net/
[08:31] <_jer> i wanted to install the xfce desktop.. it requires gtk+
[08:31] <weedar> I already started dl'ing ardour, but I'll take whatever you can throw at me :)
[08:31] <jonathan_> hang on jer let me look
[08:32] <laszlok> _jer: doesnt apt-get resolve the dependency for you?
[08:32] <jonathan_> thats what i was thinking
[08:32] <jonathan_> xfce is in the reps i thought
[08:33] <_jer> i says configure: error: Package requirements (glib-2.0 >= 2.7.1    atk >= 1.0.1    pango >= 1.9.0    cairo >= 0.9.2) were not met.
[08:33] <jonathan_> yeah apt-get install xfce4
[08:33] <jonathan_> at least the dapper ones it is
[08:33] <_jer> oh?..
[08:33] <_jer> i have breezy
[08:33] <jonathan_> ok hang on
[08:33] <jonathan_> something else I'm checking
[08:33] <jonathan_> try apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[08:34] <_jer> xubuntu?
[08:34] <apokryphos> !xubuntu
[08:34] <ubotu> methinks xubuntu is Ubuntu using XFCE instead of Gnome for the desktop. Details here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu
[08:34] <_jer> Couldn't find package xubuntu-desktop
[08:34] <jonathan_> yeah, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu
[08:34] <jonathan_> yeah, if he's wanting xfce why not just install that
[08:34] <apokryphos> _jer: it's in Universe. Enable that repository. Here's how: type /msg ubotu repositories
[08:35] <laszlok> _jer: try apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[08:35] <jonathan_> ha, i feel better, at least someone agrees with me
[08:36] <weedar> :)
[08:36] <apokryphos> yup, installing xubuntu-desktop is the recommended method for installing xfce on [k] ubuntu
[08:36] <_jer> how will i enable Universe?
[08:37] <jonathan_> HA, score one for me
[08:37] <apokryphos> _jer: type /msg ubotu repositories
[08:37] <apokryphos> .....to find out
[08:37] <jonathan_> finally i get one right tonight
[08:37] <jonathan_> apok, that wasn't directed at you....i haven't answered anything right tonight :)
[08:38] <_jer> ok i'll try:D
[08:38] <jonathan_> weedar check here too .... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=64720&highlight=audacity+usb+mic
[08:38] <weedar> rezound wouldn't let me choose /dev/dsp1 (or any device, at least not that I could find), and ardour complains about not being able to connect to a JACK server
[08:39] <jonathan_> yeah
[08:39] <jonathan_> that dsp1 is common in everything I've read
[08:40] <weedar> It would seem like all the programmers in the world don't think that /dev/dsp1 exists and therefore does not support it
[08:41] <jonathan_> lol
[08:41] <EricB`> Is there a way to allow kubuntu to install on to an existing reiser partition?
[08:41] <weedar> that cat /dev/dsp1 > /dev/dsp command makes me hear what I say in the microhpone on my speakers, but audacity doesn't pick it up :/
[08:41] <jonathan_> in that forum link there was a place to link dsp0 with dsp1
[08:43] <jonathan_> at a terminal, run "AUDIODEV=/dev/dsp1 audacity"); or try running "ln -s /dev/dsp /dev/dsp0 .... did you try this weedar?
[08:45] <weedar> I've tried the ln-command
[08:45] <weedar> and the AUDIODEV one
[08:45] <tomplast> good morning
[08:45] <tomplast> i have a problem with swedish letters, can anyone help me?
[08:46] <tomplast> i think im using utf8 and maybe that is whats causing my problem (cant display swedish letters properly)
[08:47] <weedar> It's so frustrating to know that my microphone works. The correct modules are loaded and if I do a cat /dev/dsp1 I get garbage when talking into it (which is good!) - yet still no program can record from it
[08:47] <jonathan_> yeah
[08:48] <jonathan_> and accourding to them you can compile it without portmixer and that might help
[08:48] <weedar> I'll try anything once..
[08:48] <jonathan_> http://audacityteam.org/forum/thread/312,2;nocount;?unb553sess=dc717060fa10fcc876db965447a7cb6b#postlisttop
[08:48] <jonathan_> that's the forum i think i sent you first
[08:50] <tomplast> can anyone help me?
[08:50] <weedar> yes, but the second page, which I didn't see =) I'll give it a go
[08:50] <tomplast> i have a job that i must do :'(
[08:50] <jonathan_> tom, I am sorry my friend but I cannot
[08:50] <tomplast> and it will become difficult if i cant display swedish letters :'(
[08:50] <tomplast> oki
[08:50] <tomplast> can you tell me how to change from utf8 to iso?
[08:51] <jonathan_> i can try to look it up
[08:51] <tomplast> thanks
[08:52] <jonathan_> have you looked in regional & layout?
[08:52] <jonathan_> under system settings?
[08:54] <jonathan_> that and if you have synaptic installed I would do a search for swedish...there might be some lang packages you haven't installed :-)
[08:54] <tomplast> maybe
[08:54] <tomplast> but i have full support for swedish
[08:55] <tomplast> so i doubt it :/
[08:55] <tomplast> but i will check
[08:55] <tomplast> and region & layout have i allready checked
[08:56] <tomplast> its swedish but i get a weird picture with a "?" inside it when it tries to display text documents containing swedish letters
[08:56] <tomplast> swedish text in menus are no problem
[08:56] <tomplast> just  documents
[08:56] <jonathan_> open office and the like?
[08:56] <tomplast> yup
[08:56] <tomplast> i have tried dpkg-reconfigure locales also
[08:56] <tomplast> but i dont know how to change anything
[08:57] <tomplast> it just says that i have and that its okay or something like that
[08:58] <jonathan_> ok, this is what i have in my dapper reps but i assume something like that will be in breezy
[08:58] <tomplast> oki
[08:58] <jonathan_> openoffice.org-l10sn-sv
[08:58] <tomplast> im running dapper btw
[08:58] <jonathan_> ok, cool
[08:58] <tomplast> i have all swedish packages that i can ever want :p
[08:58] <jonathan_> that's w
[08:58] <jonathan_> This package contains the localization of OpenOffice.org in
[08:58] <jonathan_> Swedish.
[08:59] <jonathan_> do you have that installed?
[08:59] <tomplast> allready installed
[08:59] <tomplast> have installed swedish for kde for openoffice for dictionaries
[08:59] <jonathan_> ok, then let me install it and see
[08:59] <tomplast> k
[09:00] <jonathan_> i'm going to be ticked if i can't get back to english :-)
[09:00] <tomplast> ^^
[09:00] <tomplast> btw, you arent that jonathan right?
[09:00] <tomplast> jonathan with a big J ;)
[09:00] <tomplast> ?
[09:00] <jonathan_> ??
[09:00] <jonathan_> riddell?
[09:00] <tomplast> riddel or whatever his name is
[09:00] <tomplast> yup
[09:01] <jonathan_> LOL.....only a wanna be
[09:01] <tomplast> ^^
[09:01] <tomplast> i want a new hdtv, maybe i should call him :P
[09:01] <jonathan_> ok, let's try this
[09:01] <jonathan_> open writer
[09:01] <tomplast> writer?
[09:01] <tomplast> openoffice?
[09:01] <tomplast> kate?
[09:01] <tomplast> kwrite?
[09:01] <tomplast> vi?
[09:01] <jonathan_> open office writer
[09:02] <tomplast> done
[09:02] <jonathan_> then go to tools > options
[09:02] <jonathan_> to the left....language settings
[09:02] <jonathan_> try there
[09:03] <tomplast> sorry but i have allready done those things
[09:03] <tomplast> :)
[09:03] <jonathan_> LOL
[09:03] <tomplast> it has been like that since installation day
[09:03] <tomplast> the problem lies not there
[09:04] <tomplast> and openoffice is a shitty editor when it comes to pure text :p
[09:04] <jonathan_> LOL
[09:04] <jonathan_> so what are you using then
[09:04] <tomplast> kate mostly
[09:04] <jonathan_> let's try that
[09:04] <jonathan_> ah
[09:04] <jonathan_> ok
[09:04] <tomplast> maybe i can take a picture
[09:04] <tomplast> so you can see the problem
[09:05] <jonathan_> that might help some :)
[09:05] <jonathan_> i don't know how much
[09:05] <tomplast> so, how can i send it too you?
[09:05] <tomplast> wait i have an ftp :P
[09:06] <jonathan_> lol
[09:06] <tomplast> http://tomplast.com/adg.png
[09:06] <tomplast> you see my problem :p ?
[09:07] <weedar> How does one usually change options before compiling a program after running ./configure ?
[09:07] <jonathan_> I see red text with weird characters
[09:07] <tomplast> yup
[09:07] <tomplast> the weird characters
[09:07] <tomplast> the "?"
[09:07] <tomplast> is the problem
[09:07] <Hobbsee> weedar: change them during the configure
[09:07] <jonathan_> yeah
[09:07] <jonathan_> lol....he's a quicker typist
[09:08] <tomplast> thanks for the help jonathan_ but i will try to look in a swedish community instead
[09:08] <weedar> Hobbsee, add as a parameter to the .configure command?
[09:08] <tomplast> maybe i have better luck there
[09:08] <Hobbsee> ie, ./configure --with-includes=/usr/includes or wahtever..
[09:08] <Hobbsee> weedar: yes
[09:08] <weedar> ah
[09:08] <Hobbsee> jonathan_: who is?
[09:08] <jonathan_> ok, my apologies for not helping
[09:08] <jonathan_> you
[09:08] <tomplast> no
[09:08] <Hobbsee> i dont remember the exact syntax for it
[09:08] <jonathan_> you are hobbsee
[09:08] <tomplast> dont apologize
[09:08] <Hobbsee> jonathan_: true, i am.
[09:08] <tomplast> im happy that you gaved me some time
[09:08] <tomplast> thanks
[09:08] <Hobbsee> hehe
[09:08] <tomplast> take care
[09:08] <jonathan_> lol....not modest are we
[09:08] <jonathan_> you too tom
[09:08] <tomplast> bye
[09:09] <jonathan_> hobbsee, let's put the sun back at the center of the universe shall we :-)
[09:09] <Hobbsee> haha
[09:09] <jonathan_> my lord i'm tired
[09:09] <jonathan_> ah
[09:10] <Hobbsee> besides that, my system just decided to stop booting, so i'm allowed to be kinda confused
[09:10] <jonathan_> not cool
[09:10] <Hobbsee> yes, not cool at all.
[09:11] <jonathan_> well, I have to go to bed
[09:11] <Hobbsee> enjoy...
[09:11] <jonathan_> you know....it's really annoying to get your pc like you want it
[09:11] <jonathan_> it gets kinda boring from there doesn't it
[09:12] <weedar> So when did you discover these masochistical tendencies jonathan_ ?
[09:12] <jonathan_> LOL
[09:12] <jonathan_> that's not cool
[09:13] <jonathan_> i try to help and this is my thanks :)
[09:13] <weedar> hehe, what I meant was that it's fun to toy around with your computer when you have the time to do so
[09:13] <weedar> But trying to get it to work and not having success when you NEED it to do something is not so fun
[09:13] <jonathan_> oh yeah, i forgot about that
[09:14] <weedar> But I am thankful for your help, I'm compiling audacity atm =)
[09:14] <jonathan_> yeah.....usually it's solid as a freaking rock when I don't need it to work
[09:14] <weedar> Murphy's Law
[09:14] <jonathan_> oh yeah
[09:14] <jonathan_> murphy should have patiented that
[09:14] <jonathan_> but ...then it's murphy's law... HA
[09:15] <jonathan_> yeah, i need to go to bed if i'm laughing at things like that
[09:16] <jonathan_> someone could be nice and find me a free windows IPsec client
[09:17] <weedar> Ah, when compiling things I always feel that warm fuzzy feeling of satisfaction you get from not using Gentoo
[09:17] <jonathan_> yes, i said windows...i have to have it sometimes
[09:17] <apokryphos> weedar: oh yeah
[09:17] <jonathan_> A FREAKING MEN
[09:18] <jonathan_> "uh uh....but your programs will start a quarter of a second quicker!"
[09:18] <jonathan_> nevermind it takes you a day to install them
[09:20] <jonathan_> boy, thanks everybody for jumping on finding me that software
[09:21] <weedar> I tried google but I couldn't find anything that looked usable jonathan_
[09:21] <weedar> have you tried sourceforge?
[09:22] <jonathan_> a bit
[09:22] <jonathan_> but nothing stood out
[09:22] <jonathan_> who would have thought that would be so hard to find
[09:22] <jonathan_> i have a pptp server now but it doesn't work with linux well
[09:23] <jonathan_> i need something i can use with both and IPsec i think will do it
[09:39] <Nakkel> Is this for real if I install koffice-doc package? "After unpacking 599MB of additional disk space will be used" also it fails with "Failed to fetch http://kubuntu.org/packages/koffice-15/pool-dapper/koffice-doc_1.5.0-0ubuntu1_all.deb  Size mismatch"
[09:39] <Nakkel> Any ideas how to fix?
[09:42] <Hobbsee> Riddell: any idea on Nakkel's problem?
[10:11] <cuco> http://behindubuntu.org/interviews/JonathanRiddell/images/desktop.png
[10:11] <cuco> i am seeing this transparent thing on the middle of this screen shot, does anyone know what that is?
[10:13] <Hobbsee> cuco: that'd be katapult
[10:13] <Hobbsee> !+katapult
[10:13] <ubotu> hmm... katapult is an application for KDE designed to provide faster access to applications, bookmarks and other items. Once you've installed it, alt+f2 ->katapult, then hit Alt+Space. When splash screen appears, type the command you want.
[10:13] <Hobbsee> assuming it's what i think it is...
[10:13] <Hobbsee> yep, it is
[10:14] <paines> morning
[10:15] <Hobbsee> hi paines
[10:17] <serprime> hi..
[10:26] <kosh> hello
[10:32] <kunjan> off topic: does anyone have a toshiba protege r205 ?
[10:34] <kosh> not I
[10:35] <Hobbsee> kunjan: i've got a toshiba a10 satellite, why do you ask?
[10:35] <kunjan> i need to find out the password for the stupid ghost images on the recovery cds
[10:36] <_nelson> wehat is de abreviation of uskeyboard with dead keys ???
[10:36] <kunjan> this model doesnt have an inbuilt cd rom and the recovery disk only work with the docking station.. which i cant get
[10:36] <Hobbsee> ah...
[10:36] <Hobbsee> great
[10:37] <kunjan> tried replacing ghost.exe with a custom ghost that would echo the command line password
[10:37] <kunjan> doesnt work
[10:42] <jpetso> help! Dapper's klaptophelper won't let me suspend my laptop.
[10:42] <jpetso> any idea what can be the cause of that?
[10:42] <imbrandon> try #ubuntu+1
[10:43] <jpetso> ok, thanks
[10:48] <Kev1n> hey guys...generally what is kubuntu like on laptops?
[10:48] <Kev1n> i may need to load my laptop with linux
[10:48] <kosh> well I only have one laptop and it works fine but it is an older laptop
[10:48] <Kev1n> kosh:. thanks
[10:49] <kosh> I just have a standard pcmcia nic in it and it works fine
[10:49] <Kev1n> i have a 2 month old Asus with p4 tech and 512mb ram
[10:50] <vge> kubntu works fine here in my laptop
[10:50] <vge> try livecd if your unsure
[10:50] <Kev1n> vge: thanks
[10:51] <Kev1n> will do
[10:51] <Kev1n> breezy or dapper ??
[10:51] <vge> try dapper first, if it dont work, go for breezy
[10:52] <Kev1n> i have dapper on this PC
[10:52] <Kev1n> works fine here
[10:52] <dragonkh> hi
[10:53] <dragonkh> is anyone running a dual core amd?
[10:55] <Hobbsee> Kev1n: dapper is not stable
[10:55] <Kev1n> hobbsee: yes I know
[10:56] <Kev1n> but it seems stabel enough for me
[10:56] <Hobbsee> so it's a good idea not to recommend it to people...
[10:56] <Kev1n> stable even
[10:56] <Kev1n> i was asking what expereinces others have had before i load my laptop with it
[10:57] <Kev1n> i am not expecting to recommend it to anybody
[10:57] <Kev1n> i have dapper on my PC
[10:58] <Hobbsee> true
[10:58] <Hobbsee> Kev1n: it'll be stable one day, then wont boot the next :P
[11:01] <Kev1n> Hobbsee: What my intentions are ... is to swap my windows OS from the laptop to this PC and load Kubuntu on to the laptop. So stability is not a real problem as I still will be able to access the the internet with windows and still be able to chat on these forums if Dapper wont boot
[11:02] <Hobbsee> that is true...
[11:02] <Kev1n> the reason for swapping is that the PC has a TV tuner card which I want to utilise and no one can get Kubuntu to get thet card to operate as it should
[11:02] <Hobbsee> nah, i'm just kinda cautious about recommending it to people - on some computers it seems to work fine, on others, it does horribly, then people whine "oh, i was told it was stable, hadnt broken in ages, etc"
[11:03] <Kev1n> whobbsee: thanks for your caution... i appreciate that
[11:03] <Hobbsee> hehe
[11:04] <Kev1n> the nswap over wont happen for a couple orf weeks anyhow... i am just asking questions now as i am prone to do...:P
[11:04] <Kev1n> i like to be prepared!
[11:04] <Hobbsee> ah fair enough :)
[11:05] <Kev1n> :)
[11:05] <Kev1n> thanks for your input anyhow!
[11:08] <Hobbsee> hehe not a problem
[11:11] <visik7> anyone using eclipse with pydev ?
[11:14] <xanax`> hello
[11:14] <Kev1n> hello
[11:21] <serprime> hi. can so tell me wich programms can apache avoid from answering a request from WAN?
[11:21] <xanax`> serprime : try #apache
[11:24] <serprime> im sure the apache2.conf is ok, the router is ok also, but i think there is a program running that blocks the request or so. i have a standard kubuntu installation. are there any firewall-programms or so? (exept xinetd)
[11:24] <bhna> Riddell: i think blended is the better window decoration then the vista like in kubuntu dapper. http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=32613
[11:25] <jpatrick> bhna: nice
[11:25] <bhna> jpatrick: !
[11:26] <jpatrick> packaging it now
[11:30] <_gonzo> hello
[11:30] <_gonzo> who is a net-snmp user ?
[11:30] <_gonzo> ;)
[11:38] <stjepan> when will be new KDE4 released?
[11:39] <bhna> stjepan: fisrt alpha in october 2006
[11:39] <bhna> *first
[11:40] <mvv> does anyone here knows what "s&h costs" mean? I live in europe here and have never heard of it.
[11:41] <ubijtsa2> shipping and handling
[11:42] <mvv> damn, they want 38 dollar per keyboard to europe :(
[11:43] <mvv> thanks ubijtsa2
[11:43] <ubijtsa2> mvv: np
[11:44] <mvv> :)
[11:47] <bhna> jpatrick: where can i find your blended deb?
[11:47] <jpatrick> bhna: making it
[11:47] <jpatrick> bhna: i always try to prefect it when it comes to packaging
[11:48] <bhna> jpatrick: ok
[11:49] <nico8481> hi
[11:50] <jpatrick> nico8481: hi there
[11:50] <jpatrick> bhna: building now
[11:52] <bhna> jpatrick: do you upload the deb on kde-look.org?
[11:53] <jpatrick> bhna: not yet
[11:54] <bhna>  jpatrick hm. by, go to lunch.
[12:07] <sredna> Pressing the Details button for an entry in adept invalidates it
[12:08] <sredna> It falls to sleep
[12:08] <Drazool> hello everybody
[12:08] <sredna> Adept is missing some information on why a package was upgraded
[12:09] <Drazool> does anybody have much experience with amaroK?
[12:10] <paines> Drazool: maybe. depends n the question
[12:14] <vge> man my laptop is going down with eclipse+vmware+openofice, guess i need to schedule what i open at the same time :)
[12:15] <paines>  vge lol. even a desktop pc should be pretty busy with all that 3 fat apps
[12:31] <Al-Daja> what is the x libraries?
[12:32] <Drazool> quick question: how do I add the kubuntu package repository to my ubuntu installation, or is that already done for me?
[12:33] <paines> Drazool: kubuntu==ubuntu just kde vs gnome
[12:34] <Al-Daja> Drazool, go to adept -->adept/manage repositories and enable and aply them
[12:34] <Al-Daja> paines,  do you know what is the x libraries?
[12:35] <paines> Al-Daja: I don't understand teh question. if you  mean the X libs, these are the libraries you neeed for Xorg
[12:37] <Pupeno> Can KMail search for duplicated messages and remove them ?
[12:43] <vinboy> hi
[12:44] <vinboy> kde 3.5.2 is out
[12:44] <vinboy> how do I upgrade my kde?
[12:45] <aeon17x> vinboy: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-352.php
[12:47] <paines> vinboy: www.kubuntu.org
[12:48] <sredna> Pupeno: Such a function appear to be missing. It can't be too hard to scan for messages with the same Message-ID header though
[12:51] <vinboy> aeon17x: thx
[12:51] <vinboy> paines: thx
[12:53] <inc|freaky> hi all. where can i see at what resolution my KDE is running at?
[12:54] <jpatrick> system settings
[12:55] <inc|freaky> and where?
[12:55] <jpatrick> Display
[12:56] <paines> inc|freaky: open up konsole and give in xrandr
[12:57] <inc|freaky> thx :D
[12:57] <McEnroe> hi, can anybody tell me how to get the channel list with konversation?
[12:57] <paines> McEnroe: "/list"
[12:57] <jpatrick> bad idea
[12:57] <McEnroe> any gui method?
[12:57] <paines> McEnroe: and it will open up a new tab with all the cahnnels listed
[12:58] <Hobbsee> hehe - very bad idea...
[12:59] <McEnroe> oh, i just looked the help: F5
[12:59] <McEnroe> nice warning
[01:02] <Haribo^> what was the package i needed for some video files? some codec package if i remember correctly.
[01:02] <Hobbsee> !+restricted
[01:02] <ubotu> [restricted]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[01:02] <Haribo^> ah, thanks
[01:12] <Haribo^> what was the command to configure the plugins for gstreamer?
[01:15] <Hobbsee> !+restricted
[01:15] <ubotu> it has been said that restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[01:15] <Hobbsee> ?
[01:16] <Hobbsee> gstreamer-0.8 register or something?
[01:16] <Haribo^> hmm. must have been gstreamer-0.8 thing.
[01:18] <Mitja> Can an application be sent to more than one desktop but not all?
[01:19] <Haribo^> oh, i've asked this before, but is it possible to make a link act exactly like a folder?
[01:19] <vge> Haribo^: ln?
[01:19] <Haribo^> yeah
[01:20] <nico8481_> Haribo^: create a link to the folder and then you can cd the link
[01:20] <nico8481_> ln -s folder link
[01:21] <Haribo^> right, it's just that most of the X apps tend to select the link instead of following it.
[01:21] <Haribo^> what's the difference between a hard and symbolic link anyway?
[01:22] <nico8481_> a hard link creates a new "copy" of the target while the symbolic link is just a link to it (read the manpage everything's nicely explained)
[01:23] <embrik> can't play videostream in kaffeine on kubuntu, I try to do as in sarge: copy essentials into usr/lib/win32. But it doesn't work in kubuntu. Any suggestions? I'm trying to play childrens teleision on nrk.no
[01:24] <nico8481_> Haribo^: the behavior of X apps that you describe seems strange to me... it the link has been correctly defined they should follow it...
[01:24] <nico8481_> "IF the link..."
[01:24] <Haribo^> Konqueror is just about the only app that follows it.
[01:24] <Haribo^> every else just treats it like a file
[01:25] <Haribo^> i'm going to have another shot at it.
[01:25] <nico8481_> yup
[01:25] <embrik> should I use any other mediaplayer?
[01:26] <Haribo^> seems that it works now... odd.
[01:26] <Haribo^> well, updating to Dapper might have something to do with it.
[01:27] <nico8481_> maybe :-/
[01:27] <Haribo^> oh well, there's no problem now, so all's well.
[01:28] <Haribo^> thanks for the help, though
[01:29] <Cin> You know the MySQL server on amaroK, how does that work?
[01:30] <vge> this is a old one, but how do i prevent mousewheel changing tabs when using it over taskbar or programtabs?
[01:54] <bpm> hello
[01:54] <bpm> i have a problem compiling the synce-rra package
[01:54] <bpm> can anybody help me please?
[01:55] <Hobbsee> bpm: pastebin the error...
[01:55] <Hobbsee> no one can help you unless you have at least that...
[01:56] <Tm_T> "help me" doesn't give any clues ;)
[01:57] <Tm_T> hmm, this is interesting... almost everything gets recompiled
[01:58] <bpm> http://pastebin.com/657381
[01:58] <_pip> Hello!I need help !
[01:59] <bpm> i need the newest version of synce to have wm5 support
[01:59] <_pip> Is there any tool for downloading in kubuntu which supports multi-thread skill?
[02:00] <Hobbsee> _pip: it's not a GUI, but prozilla is very good
[02:00] <_pip> I can download data fast.
[02:00] <mvv> _pip: kget?
[02:00] <bpm> http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=10167573&forum_id=47384
[02:01] <_pip> Hobbsee: can you recommend a gui based tool ?
[02:01] <bpm> there i posted my problem. you can also see there waht i want todo
[02:01] <_pip> mvv: OK! I go to check it
[02:02] <_pip> mvv: kget ?
[02:02] <Hobbsee> mvv: not multithreaded
[02:02] <Hobbsee> _pip: i hear there's a prozgui or something
[02:02] <_pip> Hobbsee: which one ?
[02:02] <Hobbsee> same site as prozilla...
[02:02] <Hobbsee> _pip: kget is not multithreaded
[02:02] <Hobbsee> IIRC
[02:03] <_pip> Hobbsee: will I get it in the warehouse ?
[02:03] <mvv> Hobbsee: just checked it, no multithreaded indeed
[02:03] <_pip> Hobbsee: thank you!
[02:03] <Hobbsee> in the warehouse?  as in, in universe?  no
[02:04] <bpm> Hobbsee: can you help me?
[02:05] <Hobbsee> bpm: er, no idea
[02:08] <noaXess> how cab i check the dependencies of a package that is intalled?
[02:08] <noaXess> ho can...
[02:08] <noaXess> rrr... how.
[02:09] <Banjo> Hi, I'm looking for some advice on sharing between two kubuntu breezy badger boxes - anyone?
[02:10] <Haribo^> is there a way to add stuff into the "System Menu"?
[02:10] <Hobbsee> noaXess: apt-cache show packagename
[02:10] <Hobbsee> Har
[02:10] <Hobbsee> Haribo^: right click on kmenu, edit menu
[02:11] <noaXess> Hobbsee: okey.. thank you vm
[02:13] <noaXess> other question.. is there a network applet for kde tray?
[02:14] <Terminus> hello. for some reason, i can't get java working properly in konqueror. i tried everything the wiki and google says which are basically the same but applets still don't work. can anybody help me? thanks.
[02:14] <noaXess> or some additional applets for kde
[02:16] <mvv>  noaXess: or aptitude show packagename
[02:19] <mvv> naoXess: you mean something to monitor the speed/data on an network interface? Knetstats does that
[02:21] <_pip> Hobbsee: is there any text editor in Kubuntu ?
[02:22] <jjesse> _pip: kate
[02:22] <_pip> Hobbsee: can I install gedit?
[02:22] <mvv> Terminus: dapper? (i have the same problem with java/flash, where others were able to get it to work(?))
[02:22] <Hobbsee> _pip: kate, kwrite, kedit (not installed by default)
[02:22] <Hobbsee> yes, if you want stacks of gnome...
[02:23] <_pip> Hobbsee: my kate crashed.
[02:23] <Hobbsee> yeah, it likes doing that
[02:23] <Hobbsee> use kwrite
[02:23] <Terminus> mvv: yep. dapper. i've got flash working but java doesn't seem to work.
[02:23] <_pip> Hobbsee: kwrite is OK!
[02:23] <Hobbsee> Terminus: it doesnt?
[02:25] <Terminus> Hobbsee: well, running it from the shell works but a webpage with a java applet works.
[02:25] <Terminus> mvv: have you tried rescanning for plugins in konqueror?
[02:25] <Hobbsee> huh?
[02:26] <Terminus> oh, sorry. i meant a webpage with an embedded java applet doesn't work.
[02:26] <Terminus> mvv: for flash, i also ran update-flashplugin
[02:28] <mvv> Terminus: yep, but that didn't work yet
[02:29] <mvv> Terminus:  and
[02:29] <mvv> $ sudo update-flashplugin
[02:29] <mvv> Password:
[02:29] <mvv> automatic installation failed due to network problems or upstream changes
[02:29] <mvv> erm.... sorry for the paste
[02:29] <Terminus> mvv: i see... it just worked here.
[02:29] <_pip> Hobbsee: Hi,I have downloaded a prozilla-2.0.4,how to install it ?
[02:30] <Hobbsee> !+compile
[02:30] <Terminus> i'm still confused about this KJAS thingy that konqueror seems to be using.
[02:30] <ubotu> A nice howto about compiling software from source code can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (but remember to search !apt first, after adding all the !repos)
[02:30] <Hobbsee> you'll need ncurses, too
[02:30] <Hobbsee> it's in repos...
[02:30] <_pip> Hobbsee: shall I start with install-sh file or config file ?
[02:31] <mvv> Terminus: it works here now with the backdown java(?)
[02:31] <Hobbsee> didnt know there was an install-sh file...
[02:31] <Terminus> mvv: i'm trying to get the sun jre to work with konqueror.
[02:31] <mvv> Terminus: yeah, got that headache too
[02:33] <_pip> Hobbsee: it is in the main dir--prozilla-2.0.4
[02:33] <noaXess> in the adept tool i have one package marked as an upgrade: kdegraphics-kfile-plugins... if i want upgrade this package, its action is BREAK (upgrade) and i cant upgrade it.. any idea?
[02:33] <Hobbsee> oh ok
[02:34] <mhterres> morning
[02:34] <_pip> Hobbsee: shall I do a command 'sh install-sh'?
[02:34] <noaXess> hi mhterres
[02:34] <Hobbsee> you could try...
[02:34] <Terminus> mvv: most of the websites i went to didn't seem to run with the gcj default. :|
[02:34] <_pip> Hobbsee: OK@
[02:35] <Mars^> What is going on with DApper?
[02:36] <Hobbsee> Mars^: plenty of stuff...
[02:39] <mvv> Terminus: think we should do a bug report for this, just make remember the guys that it's "broken"
[02:39] <imbrandon> !repos
[02:39] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[02:40] <Hobbsee> noaXess: shut adept, then go "sudo apt-get install kdegraphics-kfile-plugins" and pastebin the results, please
[02:40] <imbrandon> !easysource
[02:40] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[02:40] <Terminus> mvv: well, i don't know how to make bug reports and i'm not sure yet if this is pilot error or not. =D
[02:42] <Terminus> mvv: i remember java working fine in other browsers though. just not konqueror. this KJAS business is something i've never encountered before. this is the 1st time i'm using kde in 5 years.
[02:43] <vinboy_> hi
[02:43] <vinboy_> after upgrading my kde to 3.5.2
[02:43] <vinboy_> everytime my kopete starts my whole linux box freeze
[02:45] <mvv> Terminus: i am only using linux for a year now, with mostly KDE. (but have gnome installed now, i'll take a look if i have the same findings with epiphany)
[02:45] <bpm> when i compile a package with a makefile. how can i ignore warnings
[02:45] <bpm> cc1: warnings being treated as errors
[02:46] <noaXess> Hobbsee: oke.. just a minute..
[02:46] <Terminus> mvv: firefox works fine as far as i know. haven't tested it on dapper yet though. just installed this thing last night.
[02:52] <_pip> Hobbsee: Hello,how can I let a command work background?
[02:52] <Hobbsee> er...what?
[02:52] <mhterres> k3b &
[02:52] <mhterres> for example
[02:53] <mhterres> digikam &
[02:53] <_pip> mhterres: OK! then if I wanna it work front ?
[02:53] <mhterres> _pip: I don't understand
[02:54] <_pip> mhterres: If I want a thread work unbackground,how to control ?
[02:55] <mhterres> just call the command
[02:56] <noaXess> Hobbsee: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/657550 then sudo apt-get install libpoppler0c2-qt http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/657555
[02:56] <_pip> mhterres: you mean 'call ******',right?
[02:56] <mhterres> no
[02:56] <mhterres> just run the commad
[02:56] <mhterres> command
[02:57] <_pip> mhterres: what command ?
[02:57] <Hobbsee> noaXess: again?
[02:57] <mhterres> the command you want to run
[02:57] <noaXess> Hobbsee: what again.?
[02:58] <Hobbsee> i thought someone talked about that a couple of days ago
[02:58] <Hobbsee> yeah, that can have a bug report, i think
[02:58] <mhterres> If you want to k3b run background you type: k3b &
[02:58] <noaXess> Hobbsee: not me..
[02:58] <mhterres> If you want to k3b run not background you type: k3b
[03:00] <_pip> mhterres: I want to let this command(sudo apt-get install ******) work background,but if I want to call it ,how to type ?
[03:00] <v3ctor> cand if you change your mind: crtl-z then bg %1
[03:00] <mhterres> call it where ?
[03:00] <v3ctor> s/cand/and/
[03:00] <_pip> mhterres: let it work unbackground
[03:01] <mhterres> You run it background and now want to turn it unbackground ? is it ?
[03:01] <_pip> mhterres: yes
[03:01] <mhterres> hmmm, I don't know :-(
[03:02] <mhterres> never need to do this
[03:02] <_pip> mhterres: OK! in fact I just wanna watch its progress
[03:02] <mhterres> hmmm, understand
[03:02] <mhterres> you can use screen for that
[03:03] <mhterres> It's better
[03:03] <mhterres> much better
[03:03] <_pip> mhterres: You mean the monitor?
[03:03] <v3ctor> fg %1
[03:03] <mhterres> no, the screen command
[03:03] <v3ctor> will put it in forground
[03:04] <_pip> mhterres: OK!
[03:04] <_pip> v3ctor: roger!
[03:04] <mhterres> _pip: It's a nice solution
[03:04] <v3ctor> screen is a great solution
[03:04] <_pip> Thank you both!
[03:05] <_pip> v3ctor: I use the command 'fg %1',and it appears.
[03:07] <mhterres> with screen you'll run the apt-get in "another shell" and come back to your shell
[03:07] <mhterres> when you want to see the apt-get progress, you just run screen -r
[03:07] <nico8481> re
[03:08] <Terminus> mvv: i think i got it to work. konqueror doesn't seem to follow /etc/alternatives/java. you really have to set the path manually.
[03:09] <dipnlik> yakuake is SO elegant when all you need is a quick terminal
[03:09] <v3ctor> konqueror uses the firefox java plugin on my system
[03:09] <v3ctor> dipnlik: easy to use?
[03:09] <_pip> mhterres: but you said that I can run another 'apt-get'command in another shell ,is that so ?
[03:09] <dipnlik> v3ctor: yeah yeah
[03:09] <mhterres> so so
[03:09] <mhterres> screen it's like a shell inside a shell
[03:09] <_pip> mhterres: have you tried ?
[03:09] <mhterres> yes, I use it everytime
[03:10] <mhterres> It's a great solution for download files in a ssh connection
[03:10] <dipnlik> `problem` with screen is that it can be a little hard to use decently if you don't learn it a little
[03:10] <mhterres> you can disconnect and download continues :-)
[03:10] <v3ctor> my irc session is running in screen
[03:10] <mvv> Terminus: lol :) Well, if that all it takes it's an easy fix
[03:10] <dipnlik> in ssh it is perfect, to have multiple terms
[03:10] <v3ctor> so i can ssh into home boxen from work to chat
[03:10] <mvv> Terminus: thank for sharing
[03:10] <dipnlik> v3ctor: yeah yeah, detach / reattach are awesome
[03:11] <dipnlik> but locally i prefer yakuake and its tabs
[03:11] <dipnlik> shift arrows can open/close/switch tabs
[03:11] <Terminus> mvv: yeah... i kinda expected it to obey /etc/alternatives/java though. hehe
[03:11] <dipnlik> and f12 to make it come and go
[03:12] <dipnlik> (just in case you don't know, yakuake is a terminal like the ones in fps games, you press a key and it comes from the top using half the screen)
[03:13] <Bambino> !screen
[03:13] <ubotu> I guess screen is a terminal multiplexer http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen AND http://www.macworld.com/weblogs/macgems/
[03:14] <mhterres> Yes
[03:14] <_pip> mhterres: OK! Perhaps I didn't use it properly. Could apt-get run in multithreaded mode ?
[03:15] <mhterres> what's your need ?
[03:15] <mhterres> Why you don't open 2 terminals and run apt-get in one ?
[03:15] <_pip> mhterres: I can only run an apt command at one time@!and you ?
[03:16] <mhterres> Ok, now I understand you
[03:16] <mhterres> It's a limitation
[03:16] <_pip> mhterres: )
[03:16] <_pip> mhterres: yeah
[03:16] <_jeff_> is there a word counting thing in kword?
[03:16] <mhterres> You can just run one apt-get for time
[03:16] <mhterres> cause it locks some files
[03:16] <mhterres> in your local repository
[03:16] <mhterres> there's nothing you can do about it
[03:16] <_pip> mhterres: I see!
[03:17] <v3ctor> can't have to processes updating the package database at the same time
[03:17] <v3ctor> s/to/two/
[03:36] <ganymed_> hallo
[03:37] <ganymed_> are xorg 6.9 packages available for breezy?
[03:40] <ivoks> hi all
[03:40] <ivoks> #39444 needs atentions ASAP
[03:41] <ivoks> eh, one s too much :)
[03:42] <Hobbsee> bug 39444?
[03:42] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 39444 in kde-guidance "Changing an user's password can change another password for a different user" [Major,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/39444
[03:42] <Hobbsee> i think that was being fixed by the people who did that packaging...
[03:43] <ivoks> i see KDE is allready working on it
[03:45] <ivoks> well... bye
[03:51] <jer_> what to do with this? error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[03:53] <jer_> help!
[03:53] <v3ctor> install libstdc++.so.5
[03:53] <ubuntu> help
[03:54] <tijn_> hi all
[03:54] <jer_> where can i get  libstdc++.so.5?
[03:54] <v3ctor> sudo apt-get install libstdc++5
[03:55] <v3ctor> maybe
[03:55] <jer_> yeah, it worked.. thanks =)
[03:55] <v3ctor> np
[03:58] <cfraz89> hi
[03:58] <cfraz89> has anyone managed to get xgl working well under kde?
[04:00] <bygdog> How can I "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" from the live Dapper DVD, to install to /mnt/hda1 ?
[04:01] <stjepan> hi
[04:02] <stjepan> what version of kubuntu will have KDE4?
[04:02] <sredna> !xgl
[04:02] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[04:02] <sredna> stjepan: I think that is unforeseeable so far ;)
[04:03] <stjepan> sredna: xgl rocks! :)))
[04:03] <stjepan> have you tried it?
[04:03] <sredna> No
[04:03] <cfraz89> i tried it
[04:03] <cfraz89> works well in gnome
[04:03] <stjepan> it's great
[04:03] <sredna> I think I need a better video card
[04:03] <cfraz89> but coulndt get the dapper packages to work in kde
[04:03] <stjepan> sredna: what card do you have/
[04:03] <stjepan> ?
[04:03] <sredna> stjepan: Matrox g450/32mb
[04:03] <sredna> Oooooooold
[04:04] <stjepan> sredna: btw what KDE style do you use?
[04:05] <sredna> stjepan: Home mixture
[04:06] <sredna> http://83.73.148.136:8002/desktop20060415.png
[04:08] <sredna> Yay, do something bad to my kpf :o
[04:14] <tijn_> erhm my sudo broke down
[04:14] <tijn_> no error, nothing
[04:14] <superbnerb> sredna: what font is your desktop?
[04:15] <superbnerb> awesome desktop sredna
[04:15] <sredna> superbnerb: Let me check
[04:15] <ganymed_> i have built my own debs for xorg 7.0 in breezy... how do i install them without getting all the dependency problems? apt is not aware of the new packages
[04:17] <sredna> superbnerb: The window title is a font named 'Sirona'. The GUI font is 'BenguiatGot BK BT 11', and icons is 'Bauhaus MD'
[04:17] <sredna> superbnerb: I think ksirc is sans, since I have a hard time getting bitstream vera looking nice in it
[04:17] <ganymed_> sredna: md like magdeburg?
[04:18] <superbnerb> so below the icons is bauhaus md
[04:18] <superbnerb> great looking
[04:18] <Apostle^> how do the kde gaim-like programs compare to gaim it's self ?
[04:18] <sredna> ganymed_: I can't remember the meaning, but those letters are fairly common in font names and have some meaning
[04:18] <jjesse> kopete is a great program
[04:18] <Apostle^> better then gaim?
[04:19] <jjesse> i prefer it
[04:19] <superbnerb> sredna: what icon set is that mate?
[04:19] <sredna> Yes, because it is a KDE program (that is, it integrates well with KDE, I can't speak about the IM functionality
[04:20] <sredna> superbnerb: Gartoon in a kdeified version, you can get them at www.kde-look.org
[04:20] <jjesse> Apostle^: also msn webcams work with the version that ships in dapper
[04:20] <ganymed_> sredna: well, is it bauhaus like the style bauhaus?
[04:20] <Apostle^> jjesse: nice.
[04:20] <bygdog> Can "apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" from dapper live be made to install into my empty /mnt/hda1?
[04:20] <Apostle^> i think amarok / konversation are the best kde apps
[04:21] <sredna> ganymed_: I guess that is what the author wants to indicate
[04:21] <jer_> hi.. i have installed firefox 1.5 (coz ubuntu has 1.07 built in).. how will i make firefox1.5 default?
[04:21] <Apostle^> k3b is great also
[04:21] <sredna> ganymed_: It's a free font, I think it is in the huge package of free fonts available at www.kde-look.org
[04:21] <vge> jer_: you mean default browser? check kcontrol and fileassosiations
[04:21] <ganymed_> thx
[04:22] <Apostle^> how do i change the power-saving features of kde?
[04:22] <Apostle^> like it shuts my monitor off some times
[04:22] <jpatrick> !tell chuso about xgl
[04:24] <sredna> apokryphos: About everything related to the kde desktop can be configured in the kde control center (kcontrol)
[04:24] <Apostle^> sredna: talking to me? if so thanks i found it :-)
[04:24] <sredna> Including the power saving options
[04:24] <sredna> Woopos
[04:24] <Apostle^> kde is great :-P
[04:25] <dipnlik> sredna: at home i don't have kcontrol on my katapult, dunno why
[04:25] <dipnlik> sredna: dapper flight 6 there, do you know something about it?
[04:25] <sredna> dipnlik: Kubuntu hides it, they are afraid of stuff with many letters on it :o
[04:26] <sredna> dipnlik: I installed flight 5, but since I have every update available, I believe my system is similar to flight 6 or even newer
[04:26] <sredna> I'm quite happy, although kde sometimes jams, like when I rightclick a mpg file on my desktop
[04:27] <sredna> And when I end my session, kdm takes 0469809847539084753048 to show up
[04:27] <sredna> But it gets better and better, for sure :)
[04:28] <dipnlik> sredna: no kdm problems there, just didn't like kcontrol unavailable from katapult. System Settings is horrible :S
[04:29] <sredna> dipnlik: You can run kcontrol from the prompt
[04:29] <sredna> dipnlik: So if you end your session, kdm shows up in a resonable time?
[04:29] <dipnlik> sredna: yeah, i know... and i have no complaints about that, but i can test that more extensively
[04:30] <dipnlik> sredna: at home i usually block the session and open a new one, when closing this it doesn't take so long
[04:31] <sredna> I wonder if it's a configuration issue. I do not run the kubuntu kdm theme, just the default dialog on a background
[04:32] <Apostle^> does noatun use xine ?
[04:33] <sredna> No, I believe noatun uses arts
[04:34] <bhna> Apostle^: yes, and gstreamer and arts. you can change the backend
[04:34] <Apostle^> bhna: okay thanks.
[04:34] <Apostle^> i can't seem to find the area to change the splash screen is it in system settings?
[04:35] <bhna> Apostle^: sorry only arts. thought you mean kaffeine
[04:35] <bhna> Apostle^: use kcontrol
[04:36] <Apostle^> where is that at?
[04:37] <bhna> Apostle^: open konsolw eand type kcontrol or prees f2 and kcontrol
[04:37] <tijn_> erhm my sudo broke down
[04:37] <tijn_> no error, nothing
[04:37] <tijn_> common prob/
[04:37] <tijn_> ?
[04:38] <_pip> hello!
[04:38] <_pip> how to config my IP
[04:38] <_pip> I use a static IP in a lan!
[04:38] <Apostle^> _pip: in system settings>network
[04:39] <_pip> Apostle^: OK! I see!
[04:40] <ganymed_> are there backports of x.org 6.9 or 7.0 for breezy?
[04:40] <Apostle^> where is the kdm theme area at?
[04:40] <_pip> Apostle^: how to shift to administrator mode ?
[04:41] <Apostle^> _pip: their is a button on the bottom
[04:41] <bhna> Apostle^: appearance  ?
[04:41] <Apostle^> bhna: let me see
[04:41] <_pip> Apostle^: where ?
[04:42] <Apostle^> _pip: bottom of that window
[04:42] <_pip> Apostle^: I can't see!
[04:42] <Apostle^> bhna: i don't see it
[04:44] <bhna> Apostle^: have windows here sorry. you can edit /etc/kde/kdm/kdm.rc and backgroundrc
[04:45] <bhna> Apostle^: and you can change the kde-splash in kcontrol
[04:46] <ganymed_> ciao
[04:48] <tijn_> any way to config sudo?
[04:49] <bhna> icons, style and splash
[04:49] <superbnerb> i wish there was a way to get su back
[04:49] <superbnerb> no offence but hate the stance on this uber tight laptop security lol... anyone know how to do a su on kubuntu or any ubuntu system?
[04:50] <tijn_> superbnerb: eeeerhm
[04:50] <tijn_> there is a way
[04:50] <tijn_> sudo passwd root
[04:50] <sredna> superbnerb: Set a roog password
[04:50] <sredna> Root
[04:51] <tijn_> but some graph apps want to go into admin mode
[04:51] <tijn_> and use sudo
[04:51] <sredna> You can get a root shell by doing 'sodo -i'
[04:51] <tijn_> yes
[04:51] <superbnerb> oh... that is what i need
[04:51] <superbnerb> let me try
[04:51] <superbnerb> my machine tells me to sod off
[04:51] <superbnerb> command not found
[04:52] <tijn_> the fact with kubuntu is dat the root passwd is auto some random text
[04:52] <Apostle^> you can do sudo su
[04:52] <tijn_> sudo passwd root
[04:52] <tijn_> :)
[04:52] <tijn_> or do an expert install
[04:52] <bhna>  Apostle^ near icons, style etc:
[04:53] <noteventime> Hmm, I can't click some links in konqueror any more :(
[04:53] <noteventime> It tries to save them to disk
[04:54] <Apostle^> bhna: still dont see it
[04:59] <superbnerb> oh sredna u had sodo -i, but i think u meant sudo -i
[04:59] <superbnerb> thanks that's what i needed.  you the man.
[04:59] <sredna> Sorry :)
[04:59] <superbnerb> no worries, it works :-)
[05:00] <superbnerb> don't u agree however, that sudo'ng everything sucks?
[05:01] <superbnerb> i can agree with the thinking of course.
[05:01] <superbnerb> ok i'm going to las vegas in a couple of hours... can't frickin wait mates :-)
[05:01] <superbnerb> my  next post will be from the pool deck, if all works out.
[05:08] <_pip> hello!
[05:08] <tijn_> hellp
[05:08] <_pip> how to config me IP
[05:08] <tijn_> hello*
[05:08] <_pip> how to config my IP address ?
[05:09] <_pip> And how to use my Flash hardware ?
[05:09] <MrKubuntuUser> Hello!  How would I go about setting up a printer so that output goes directly to the printer instead of being spooled?  Is that possible?
[05:10] <_pip> hello!
[05:10] <_pip>  I need help!
[05:10] <mindspin> _pip: sudo ifconfig eth0 ipadress
[05:11] <mindspin> sudo route add default gw ip_of_gateway
[05:12] <_pip> mindspin: and gateway ,DNS and so on ?
[05:12] <mindspin> thje above is for gateay
[05:12] <_pip> mindspin: subnet
[05:13] <mindspin> dns adress is written down in /etc/resolv.conf
[05:13] <_pip> mindspin: can you teach me how to config those in graphic mode ?
[05:13] <_pip> mindspin:  I am using Kubuntu!
[05:13] <mindspin> kdesu kcontrol
[05:14] <mindspin> network settings
[05:14] <_pip> mindspin: what?
[05:14] <mindspin> the rest should be self explainabele
[05:14] <mindspin> type kdesu kcontrol
[05:14] <_pip>  mindspin but where is the administrator mode ?
[05:14] <_pip> mindspin: OK!
[05:14] <mindspin> by opening with kdesu you are automatically in admin mode
[05:15] <erez> ehy, i am writing a small script for amarok in python, do you know how can i assign data i get from dcop to a variable in python?
[05:15] <mvv> _pip: section "internet and network"
[05:15] <_pip> mvv: I know that ! But i need a root account
[05:16] <_pip> mvv: how to deal with this problem.
[05:16] <vinboy> hi
[05:16] <mvv> _pip: kdesu *should* be root
[05:16] <vinboy> i have just upgraded my kde, now i'm getting this error  Unable to find a plugin named 'kopete_msn'!
[05:17] <mvv> vinboy: i would try reinstall kopete myself
[05:17] <vinboy> mvv: done that
[05:19] <mvv> vinboy: then i don't know myself, sry.
[05:19] <vinboy> mvv: thx
[05:24] <noteventime> !tango
[05:24] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, noteventime
[05:27] <noteventime> !gnome
[05:41] <_niko> hi
[05:42] <jpatrick> _niko: hi
[05:42] <_niko> kann mir mal wer auf die schnelle sagen, wieviel ram mein rechner benutzt (weil ich hab mir nen neuen kernel kompiliert und hab grad ka, wieviel ram da aktiv sind)
[05:42] <jpatrick> !de
[05:42] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de
[05:42] <Tm_T> Niko_K: please use english
[05:42] <Niko_K> okay
[05:42] <Niko_K> sorry
[05:42] <Tm_T> ;)
[05:42] <jpatrick> Tm_T: I use the source
[05:43] <Tm_T> I use the force ;)
[05:43] <Niko_K> i just wanted to ask, if it is possible to find out, how many gigabytes of ram my pc uses (because i compiled a kernel myself...(
[05:43] <Tm_T> err, time to set fire to sauna ->
[05:43] <jpatrick> Tm_T: lol
[05:43] <Tm_T> Niko_K: "free -m" gives some hint
[05:44] <Tm_T> jpatrick: yes, you know, you burn wood in fireplace, you get heat etc ->
[05:44] <jpatrick> Tm_T: I thought as in set fire to the building
[05:45] <Niko_K> hmm
[05:45] <Niko_K> there must be something wrong
[05:45] <Niko_K> do i have to add high and low memory or are they part of each other?
[05:45] <milestone> hi all i am trying to compile KVideoEncoder on kubuntu dapper drake and i am getting application.h: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden
[05:46] <milestone> how can i tell the compiler to look for includes under /usr/include/kde ?
[05:46] <jpatrick> should do on it's own
[05:46] <milestone> jpatrick: how can i verify that
[05:46] <bhna> --with-includes ...
[05:47] <milestone> bhna --with-includes or --with-qt-includes?
[05:47] <milestone> i will just try it as is
[05:48] <bhna> milestone: /configure --help
[05:48] <apokryphos> milestone: why would you want it to look there?
[05:48] <Niko_K> hmm
[05:48] <Niko_K> another question
[05:49] <Niko_K> which option is wrong in my kernel, if it doesn't know devfs
[05:49] <Niko_K> ?
[05:49] <milestone> configure: Unknown Option --with-includes=/usr/include/kde
[05:49] <milestone> apokryphos: because the header files lie there
[05:49] <milestone> ...
[05:49] <apokryphos> how did you get them in there ??
[05:49] <milestone> Niko_K: maybe the version number ;)
[05:50] <milestone> apokryphos: package kdelibs4-dev
[05:50] <Niko_K> isn't devfs not working in 2.6.16.5 anymore?
[05:50] <milestone> Niko_K: devfs is deprecated since 2.6.12 i think
[05:50] <Niko_K> hmm... a not too much ;)
[05:50] <apokryphos> milestone: it's not put there, no. And you don't have to specify that configure option, if you installed a proper deb.
[05:50] <Niko_K> okay
[05:50] <apokryphos> just add --prefix=/usr
[05:50] <Niko_K> that's fine then
[05:51] <Niko_K> how can i tell kubuntu then not to search for it when booting??
[05:51] <Niko_K> because i always get warnings like "devfs not found in kernel"
[05:51] <milestone> apokryphos: installed the debs did configure but then i am getting http://pastebin.com/657860
[05:52] <apokryphos> milestone: I don't really have any idea what that says. Did ./configure go fine?
[05:53] <apokryphos> no errors?
[05:54] <milestone> apokryphos: yes everything fine
[05:55] <bhna> milestone: maybe you need an older qt-version?
[05:55] <jorik> brillliant
[05:55] <milestone> apokryphos: see here http://pastebin.com/657867
[05:55] <milestone> bhna that sucks
[05:55] <apokryphos> bhna: I really doubt that
[05:56] <bhna> milestone: is there an "compatible" qt package
[05:56] <milestone> apokryphos: here is the english output http://pastebin.com/657870
[05:57] <apokryphos> what exactly did you put in for ./configure ?
[05:58] <milestone> apokryphos: as you can see he is not able to find kapplication.h
[05:59] <apokryphos> what exactly did you put in for ./configure ?
[05:59] <milestone> apokryphos: I have added the include path to the src/Makefile and it seems to work
[05:59] <milestone> apokryphos: as u said configure --prefix=/usr
[06:00] <apokryphos> yes, that should be all you need
[06:00] <apokryphos> odd
[06:04] <thor> I was messing around with the Realtek sound drivers and seriously messed up my sound system. Nothing works, and I seem to have lost the snd_hda_intel module. Any ideas?
[06:18] <_jeff_> hey guys
[06:18] <_jeff_> you all are much nicer than the punks in #ubuntu
[06:18] <_jeff_> anybody know if there are shortcut keys for xmms?
[06:18] <bhna> punks?
[06:18] <_jeff_> lol
[06:20] <v3ctor> kde users are more mature
[06:20] <_jeff_> they arent bad, its just so crowded and loud
[06:20] <_jeff_> yeah ill agree
[06:20] <Tm_T> jpatrick: yeah, but burning whole house doesn't give heat that long ;)
[06:21] <bygdog> Hello? How do I dpkg -i to a different partition?
[06:21] <_jeff_> i... dont know sir
[06:24] <bygdog> That's tricky.. Deb files seem to be fine so long as you don't want to install a new system
[06:27] <Sho_> Any ETA for the website coming back up?
[06:29] <jpatrick> Sho_: when the servers are back
[06:29] <apokryphos> Sho_: they're up
[06:29] <Sho_> ah, working now
[06:29] <Sho_> time to get my kubuntu fix
[06:30] <Sho_> :-)
[06:30] <ninHertatil> hi all
[06:45] <mvv> hi ninHertatil
[06:45] <ninHertatil> hi mw
[06:47] <MacAnthony> any know svn fairly well?
[06:47] <MacAnthony> way off topic I know
[06:49] <robotgeek> MacAnthony: what you need?
[06:49] <MacAnthony> Just curious what the file status of G is after doing an svn update
[06:49] <MacAnthony> modified?
[06:51] <thor> Anyone know how I can fix this error: "could not find module snd_hda_intel" ?
[06:51] <robotgeek> MacAnthony: http://svnbook.red-bean.com/nightly/en/svn-book.html#svn.tour.cycle
[06:52] <MacAnthony> awesome, thanks robotgeek
[06:53] <robotgeek> MacAnthony: http://svnbook.red-bean.com/en/1.0/ch03s05.html even
[06:53] <MacAnthony> First link answered my question
[06:53] <me2win> thor: when do you get that error?
[06:53] <MacAnthony> was more of a curious thing than a problem thing
[06:54] <robotgeek> MacAnthony: cool :)
[06:56] <thor> me2win: after the Realtek drivers screwed up my soundsystem. I'm trying to load the snd modules, but they seem to be wiped from my system by the Realtek install scrips. I'm running Dapper with kernel 2.6.15-20
[06:56] <me2win> ah, hmm, not sure, try asking in #ubuntu, somebody might know there
[06:57] <robotgeek> MacAnthony: i've never used a gui svn tool
[06:58] <MacAnthony> robotgeek: I do development on a win box so there usually isn't a good command line client
[06:58] <robotgeek> MacAnthony: cygwin :)
[06:58] <MacAnthony> not that tortoiseSVN is any good
[06:58] <thor> me2win: thanks, I'll try that
[06:59] <me2win> thor: its kind of quiet in there right now, im not sure why, hopefully it picks up soon and more people are around to answer Qs
[07:00] <thor> I hope so. Not having sound on my laptop isn't the end of the world, but it would be nice to have the option. :)
[07:00] <dario_23> hello....someone speak italian ?
[07:00] <robotgeek> !it
[07:00] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[07:00] <dario_23> non c'.....
[07:02] <me2win> thor: im sure there is a solution, just gotta ask at the right time :D
[07:03] <thor> Probably. Maybe I'll just wait for Flight 7 and do a fresh install then.
[07:04] <DjDarkman> hy ,i upraded to kde 3.5.2 ,where do i switch the resolution here?
[07:06] <robotgeek> DjDarkman: either display module or
[07:06] <robotgeek> DjDarkman, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:07] <DjDarkman> robotgeek: in kde 3.4.3 i had an option at he configure desktop ,but i don`t see i t now
[07:08] <robotgeek> DjDarkman: should be in System Settings
[07:08] <DjDarkman> my monitors resolution is set to 1024x* and cedega has set my desktop resolution to 800x600
[07:25] <SteelTiger> Hi at all
[07:31] <roland> hallo
[07:31] <roland> ich such verzweifelt ein Tool, wo ich in einem Wavefile Trackmarker setzen kann bevor ich es als Audio-CD Brenne....
[07:32] <roland> wer weis was ?
[07:32] <SteelTiger> audacity?
[07:32] <mart> glame?
[07:32] <SteelTiger> splitten?
[07:32] <roland> am besten mit gui
[07:32] <roland> audacity tut sowas ????
[07:32] <roland> da muss ich noch mal nachsehen...
[07:33] <mart> roland: http://glame.sourceforge.net/de/screenshots.var
[07:34] <roland> oh ja, das sieht vielversprechend aus
[07:34] <roland> Mercie
[07:35] <Bennedetto> does anyone here use either an inspiron 700m or 710m?
[07:35] <nuky> hi, i'm having this problem with konqueror and opening my trash.. this is my situation: http://learningspirit.co.uk/trash_access_error.png i dont understand how i can have trash:/ open in one konqueror by typing it in the address bar but if i click on the wastebin link, i get the malformed error message.. any ideas?
[07:35] <mart> roland: wissen sie #kubuntu-de? :)
[07:36] <mindspin> !de
[07:36] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de
[07:39] <Bennedetto> anyone?
[07:39] <mart> Bennedetto: better to say what problem you're having with it.
[07:40] <Bennedetto> im just about to install, and i just want to see if there are any issues with that series of laptop
[07:40] <Bennedetto> so i can be ready for it
[07:41] <mart> Bennedetto: if you're worried, you could maybe try the live CD first?
[07:41] <Bennedetto> its all good
[07:41] <Bennedetto> im just burning the installer now
[07:41] <Bennedetto> just though i'd ask :P
[07:43] <mart> Bennedetto: there's some articles on www.linux-laptop.net
[07:43] <Bennedetto> alright, cool thanks
[07:44] <mart> Bennedetto: but, tbh, I'd only look there if you have problems - people seem to over-engineer getting linux to run on their laptops in those articles, normally
[07:44] <Bennedetto> lol, alright
[07:45] <Bennedetto> ill just let kubuntu do its thing and i'll see what happens
[07:45] <Bennedetto> if it doesnt go to well, ill just go back to gentoo :)
[07:46] <alfatau> hello, i've to launch a script on a remote machine which takes a long time to be executed, so i have to keep my machine connected and turned on because i'm running the script by a ssh session. what can i do?
[07:56] <Tm_T> evening all
[07:57] <DaSkreech> Hi
[08:07] <mlehrer> i am a long time linux/debian user, but a total newb with kde/kubuntu - is it ok to ask some newb style questions
[08:07] <mlehrer> e.g.: how do i get more than 20 desktops
[08:08] <mlehrer> and how do i set sloppy focus & change the window manager keys
[08:08] <robotgeek> mlehrer: right click on the pager, and configure it
[08:08] <mlehrer> robotgeek: it maxes out at 20
[08:08] <robotgeek> mlehrer: shortcuts are System Settings -> Regional and Accessibility
[08:09] <robotgeek> mlehrer: sloppy focus, right click on window and configure
[08:09] <robotgeek> mlehrer: not sure about more than 20, never acutually though anyone would use more than 6 :)
[08:10] <mlehrer> i have 48 on ubuntu, and use them all
[08:11] <mart> how on earth do you know where to find stuff?
[08:12] <mart> (I struggled with two, until I gave up)
[08:12] <robotgeek> mlehrer: just curious, how do you manage :)
[08:14] <mlehrer> it can be stressful sometimes
[08:45] <MrKubuntuUser> I just created a new user account in Kubuntu 6.06 Flight 6 and the sound doesn't work in the new account
[08:45] <MrKubuntuUser> It did work in my install account... how can I get it to work in my new account?
[08:46] <carl> whats the file I have to edit for the file repositories again?
[08:46] <C-O-L-T> Hello everybody Kubuntu dead again?
[08:46] <C-O-L-T> Question?
[08:46] <MrKubuntuUser> carl: /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:46] <C-O-L-T> How stable is Flight 6?
[08:46] <carl> thanx
[08:47] <DaSkreech> Pretty decent
[08:50] <Apostle^> whats kbfx ?
[08:52] <Terminus> MrKubuntuUser: the user should be in the audio group i think.
[08:56] <MrKubuntuUser> Terminus:  Hey, thanks!  the GUI didn't add my new user to any other groups... are there any besides audio and lpadmin that users should be part of?
[08:57] <Terminus> MrKubuntuUser: i guess whatever groups the 1st user is in too.
[09:07] <Apostle^> does kde have a firewall like firestarter?
[09:08] <robotgeek> Apostle^: gaurdog
[09:08] <robotgeek> !info gaurddog
[09:09] <robotgeek> info gaurddog
[09:09] <Apostle^> !guarddog
[09:09] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Apostle^
[09:09] <Apostle^> :-P
[09:09] <robotgeek> !info gaurddog
[09:09] <robotgeek> Apostle^: i keep getting the a nd u mixed up :)
[09:10] <Apostle^> ;-p
[09:15] <mvv> apostle^: or kmyfirewall
[09:16] <Apostle^> mvv: thanks
[09:18] <slow-motion> hallo
[09:20] <mvv> apostle^: there are two more firewall configuration tools on kde-apps.org, if you like to check them out..
[09:20] <Apostle^> thanks
[09:26] <lilfade> i need some help ever sence i used my browser to ftp files to my server i cant seem to connect or even visit my site any more. can someone help me figure out whats wrong?
[09:30] <harleypig> I have an integrated usb webcam and an integrated tv tuner card.  Does anyone know how I can access the usb webcam info?
[09:30] <harleypig> Or how I can find out?
[09:31] <harleypig> usbview shows two devices, one unknown, the other is *not* the camera.
[09:31] <harleypig> /dev/video0 is apparently looking at the tuner card.
[09:33] <milestone> hi all
[09:33] <Apostle^> ho
[09:34] <Apostle^> hi
[09:34] <lilfade> i need some help ever sence i used my browser to ftp files to my server i cant seem to connect or even visit my site any more. can someone help me figure out whats wrong?
[09:34] <milestone> i am looking for some dvd->encoding gurus. If i have 2 dirs (VIDEO_TS and AUDIO_TS). How can I create an avi from that?
[09:38] <mhterres> I'm not a dvd encoding guru, but you can use menconder to make avi files from DVDs
[09:39] <mhterres> menconder is "part" of mplayer
[09:41] <milestone> mhterres: the thing is there is no dvd no more
[09:41] <milestone> mhterres: can u shed some light into this?
[09:42] <timthelion> hello
[09:43] <MrKubuntuUser> Does anybody know of a good ANSI telnet client for Linux that is able to recieve print jobs from the telnet server and print them?  Is the included telnet client capable of this?  If so, how/
[09:43] <mhterres> hmmm, I understand
[09:44] <mhterres> In this case I don't know
[09:44] <mhterres> you should make an iso from DVD
[09:44] <mhterres> so you could mount it
[09:44] <mart> hmm, that sounds a bit ott.
[09:44] <milestone> well in the directories there are a couple of vobs inside
[09:45] <mhterres> I know
[09:45] <mhterres> maybe mencoder can do this, but I'm not sure
[09:45] <mart> milestone: yeah, I figrured this out the other week  - if only I could remember
[09:45] <mart> milestone: I think there's a KDE app that will do it for you
[09:46] <milestone> mart: PLEASE REMEBER :)
[09:46] <mart> milestone: hmm, there are sevel listed on kde-apps.org
[09:47] <milestone> mart i have compiled kvideoencoder but no fun
[09:48] <mart> milestone: tbh, last time I needed to do something like it I just used the command line
[09:48] <milestone> mart and how?
[09:48] <milestone> mart i will be doing anything
[09:49] <mart> milestone: well, I only wanted the .vob files not .avi so I used dvdbackup and libdvdcss
[09:51] <mart> milestone: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/DVDRippingandEncoding?highlight=%28dvd%29
[09:51] <milestone> mart thx
[09:56] <menno> hi. just installed kubuntu dapper but i have already some problems
[09:56] <MrKubuntuUser> menno:  What problems?
[09:57] <larkin> Can anybody recommend a good c++ compiler for kubuntu
[09:57] <jpatrick> g++
[09:57] <larkin> How diifcult is it to install?
[09:57] <robotgeek> larkin: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[09:57] <jpatrick> larkin: sudo apt-get install g++
[09:58] <jpatrick> in the konsole
[09:58] <menno> i was trying Kubuntu 5,10 but couldn't get amarok to work. so i erased it and installed Dapper. adept doesn't work
[09:58] <carlos> anyone in here successful with compiz/xgl on new kubuntu dapper? ive tried everything and i need some help plz
[09:59] <MrKubuntuUser> menno:  Hmm... I get the two mimetype errors, but it works after you click OK
[09:59] <jpatrick> !xgl
[09:59] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[09:59] <MrKubuntuUser> menno:  Are you completely up-to-date?
[09:59] <carlos> thnx jpatrick
[09:59] <menno> well i give my password and nothing happens
[10:00] <menno> so i can not update
[10:00] <MrKubuntuUser> menno:  open Konsole and type sudo apt-get update
[10:00] <menno> ok
[10:00] <MrKubuntuUser> menno:  when that finishes, type sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:01] <MrKubuntuUser> menno:  press 'y' and then wait for it to finish
[10:02] <menno> it seems there's a problem because it says adept is already working?
[10:02] <menno> it says:Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[10:03] <mart> close adept first
[10:03] <menno> i don't see adept
[10:03] <MrKubuntuUser> menno:  Adept must have crashed.  type sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/
[10:03] <MrKubuntuUser> menno:  that will delete the lock
[10:03] <MrKubuntuUser> WAIT
[10:03] <MrKubuntuUser> menno:  wait
[10:03] <mart> MrKubuntuUser: !!!
[10:04] <Bambino> lol
[10:04] <MrKubuntuUser> menno:  sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[10:04] <MrKubuntuUser> menno:  heh heh
[10:04] <menno> done phew
[10:05] <menno> it tells me to put in the CD
[10:06] <menno> CD is running
[10:06] <menno> but also the internet...
[10:07] <menno> i still like Kubuntu a lot
[10:10] <MrKubuntuUser> menno:  yeah, sometimes it uses the CD's packages instead of redownloading
[10:10] <menno> still updating...at 8% from the internet that is
[10:11] <menno> i'm gonna get me a glass of wine
[10:15] <menno> update at 15%
[10:15] <menno> and so is my wine
[10:23] <MrKubuntuUser> menno:  How fast is your Internet connection?
[10:24] <menno> i'm at 30% now
[10:25] <menno> so it's not too fast and not too slow
[10:25] <sean> Define too fast...
[10:26] <mhterres> menno: what are you doing ?
[10:26] <waylandbill> The system clock runs faster than real time. 20 minutes are added to the clock in real world 5 minutes. Is there anything that can be done about this problem?
[10:27] <menno> mhterres: i'm having trouble getting adept gui to work in Kubuntu Dapper. MrKubuntuUser is helping me out :-)
[10:27] <sean> waylandbill: Are you over/underclocking your CPU?
[10:28] <waylandbill> sean: nope. It's whatever the factory setting is set to.
[10:28] <sean> waylandbill: Dapper or Breezy?
[10:28] <waylandbill> sean: Breezy
[10:28] <mart> waylandbill: you can run a ntp client...
[10:29] <waylandbill> mart: is there one I can cron to run more often than the one that is built into the clock applet?
[10:30] <mart> waylandbill: you wont need to cron it -    apt-cache show ntpdate
[10:30] <sean> waylandbill: this will diagnose your computer:
[10:30] <MrKubuntuUser> sean:  I've seen the exact same thing in Virtual PC 2004 running Kubuntu Breezy and Dapper
[10:30] <sean> waylandbill: date +"%s"; sleep 1; date +"%s"
[10:30] <sean> waylandbill: write that into a konsole
[10:31] <sean> waylandbill: konsole is in K > System > Konsole
[10:31] <zblach> quick question. i'm running kde 3.5.1. how can I setup my samba ioslave correctly?
[10:31] <sean> waylandbill: report back what it says
[10:31] <menno> MrKubuntuUser: uhm 41% now
[10:31] <waylandbill> 1144960346, 1144960347
[10:31] <mhterres> menno: I see
[10:32] <sean> waylandbill: now try the following:
[10:32] <sean> waylandbill: date +"%s"; sleep 15; date +"%s"
[10:32] <mhterres> menno: I prefer to use the good and old apt-get :-)
[10:33] <menno> MrKubuntuUser: i can see why. because it's working right?
[10:33] <waylandbill> 1144960534, 1144960549
[10:33] <larkin> Hello, jpatrick
[10:33] <sean> waylandbill: Perfect. You can also try in Python.
[10:33] <sean> waylandbill: You can do the following:
[10:34] <larkin> I got the packages, where is the g++ compiler
[10:34] <MrKubuntuUser> menno: what do you mean?
[10:34] <sean> waylandbill: hold down the "new tab" button, and select python interpreter
[10:34] <sean> waylandbill: In interpreter, type in the following
[10:34] <sean> waylandbill: time.time(); time.sleep(10); time.time()
[10:35] <larkin> Can anybody tell me how to install a c++ compiler in Kubuntu
[10:35] <menno> MrKubuntuUser: well i think i can't get adept to work but apt itself is still working
[10:35] <sean> waylandbill: oops - you'll need to do this instead: import time; time.time(); time.sleep(10); time.time()
[10:35] <menno> maybe it has to do with the gui of adept? i may say stupid things but i'm a newbie
[10:36] <sean> waylandbill: Report back what it says
[10:36] <waylandbill> 1144960900.0775459, 1144960910.076005
[10:36] <sean> waylandbill: yours has better accuracy than mine.
[10:36] <menno> MrKubuntuUser: this is the second day i'm using irc
[10:36] <MrKubuntuUser> menno: no, it's OK.  Adept can't run while apt-get is running, though.  Only one program can use APT at a time.  Adept is just whacked out in Dapper.
[10:37] <sean> waylandbill: go into adept and make sure ntpdate is installed
[10:37] <MrKubuntuUser> menno:  It should be fixed by the time Dapper is released on June 1.
[10:38] <menno> i want to get some experience in Linux and this is a good way to learn i think
[10:38] <waylandbill> yup. and it's the latest version.
[10:38] <MrKubuntuUser> menno:  Yes, it's great for learning to go in and do stuff with Linux (such as apt)
[10:40] <rohan> is there an ftp from where i can dl kde 3.5.2 and koffice 1.5 for breezy ?
[10:40] <sean> waylandbill: In the "shell" tab in konsole, and type "sudo kcron", and type your password if/when it asks for it
[10:40] <hume> hi... how do I change the kdm log in screen from the blue kubuntu image? I tried setting another background throuhg the System settings, but still I get this blue Kubuntu screen..
[10:40] <menno> i know excactly what i want to do with Linux and i will go there slowly but sure
[10:40] <sean> waylandbill: a new window should open
[10:41] <MrKubuntuUser> menno:  how are you planning on using Linux?
[10:41] <menno> MrUbuntuUser: 58% now
[10:42] <rohan> hmm.. no FTP mirrors for kde and koffice ?
[10:42] <menno> i want to have a slick and basic musicmachine
[10:42] <rohan> i cant use wildcards
[10:42] <rohan> in wget http :S
[10:43] <MrKubuntuUser> menno:  yes, I've heard good thinks about amaroK.  Haven't used it much, though
[10:43] <menno> MrKubuntuUser: but uptil now i've had great difficulties getting my soundcard to work. So Dapper is the latest version and maybe it will be recognised there
[10:44] <menno> MrKubuntuUser: no i mean making computermusic myself
[10:44] <MrKubuntuUser> menno:  OHOHOH!  OK, sorry about misunderstanding you.  What kind of sound card do you have?
[10:45] <timthellion> heelo
[10:45] <timthellion> does anyone know about networking problems with ndiswrapper?
[10:46] <menno> MrKubuntuUser: an intergrated chip, realtek High Definition. Works under XP, must work under Linux (yet)
[10:47] <timthellion> can anyone help me with ndiswrapper?
[10:48] <menno> MrKubuntuUser: It's sounds OK, but in the end i will render my music digitally so the soundchip doesn't have to be the highest quality.
[10:48] <hume> anyone know why I cannot get rid of the kubuntu log in screen? I'd like another background but it does not change
[10:49] <menno> MrKubuntuUser: 71%
[10:50] <timthellion> how do I make sure my kernal does not have 4k stacks enabled?
[10:52] <timthellion> hello?
[10:52] <Oli> check the kernel config?!
[10:53] <timthellion> ok weres that (this is my 5th day of linux)
[10:53] <Oli> dunno how to check if you havent kernel sources and regenerated the config
[10:53] <Oli> dunno kubuntu actually oO
[10:54] <timthellion> grr
[10:54] <timthellion> just trying to get online..
[10:55] <Oli> maybe you ask in teh forums, I'm note quite sure why you should touch the kernel
[10:55] <timthellion> ndis recognises my awlh3025 but when I try to enable it it just disables
[10:56] <timthellion> I was making a stab in the dark based off this  http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List#A
[10:57] <timthellion> Card: Airlink+ 802.11g Model AWLH3025
[10:57] <timthellion> Chipset: TI ACX111
[10:57] <timthellion> pciid: 1046:9066
[10:57] <timthellion> Driver: [17] 
[10:57] <timthellion> Other: Cheap at Fry's. Make sure your kernel does not have 'use 4k stacks' enabled.
[10:58] <menno> MrKubuntuUser: 85% now
[11:00] <XVampireX> Hi
[11:00] <XVampireX> What's up everyone?
[11:01] <timthellion> I am having ndis problems
[11:01] <XVampireX> Can I run Enlightenment on top of KDE or is Enlightenment a different Desktop Enviorment?
[11:03] <MrKubuntuUser> menno:  how's it going?
[11:03] <menno> MrKubuntuUser:well i'm at 94%
[11:04] <menno> these updates took me about an hour
[11:06] <XVampireX> Is anyone using Enlightenment at all?
[11:06] <menno> MrKubuntuUser: 99%
[11:10] <menno> MrKubuntuUser: i imagine i have to reboot soon?
[11:14] <menno> MrKubuntuUser: i guess i'm ready
[11:14] <menno> MrKubuntuUser: i will make a reboot
[11:15] <MrKubuntuUser> menno:  it finished installing packages?
[11:15] <MrKubuntuUser> menno:  not just downloading?
[11:19] <menno> MrKubuntuUser: i'm back with a new kernel (i think)
[11:19] <MrKubuntuUser> menno:  OK.  Try out Adept
[11:21] <menno> MrKubuntuUser: it works but with errors: could not find mimetypes
[11:24] <MrKubuntuUser> menno:  That's OK.  It works after that, though, right?
[11:25] <menno> MrKubuntuUser: yes i can use it thank you
[11:25] <MrKubuntuUser> menno:  No problem.
[11:27] <menno> MrKubuntuUser: i have to go to bed it's getting late. Thank you again MrKubuntuUser for your help:-)
[11:28] <MrKubuntuUser> menno:  No problem!  Glad Adept is working again for you.
[11:28] <MrKubuntuUser> menno:  well, not again, but you know what I mean :D
[11:30] <menno> MrKubuntuUser: good night see you
[11:31] <Pupeno_> How do I replace the Ubuntu start splash screen for the Kubuntu one ?
[11:32] <Tm_T> Pupeno_: you mean usplash?
[11:32] <Pupeno_> Tm_T: probably.
[11:32] <Tm_T> ok
[11:34] <Tm_T> kubuntu-artwork-usplash
[11:34] <Tm_T> that's your package ;)
[11:35] <Pupeno_> Tm_T: it's installed.
[11:37] <Tm_T> Pupeno_: oh well, I don't remember how that stuff worked, sorry
[11:37] <Pupeno_> ok.
[11:41] <Bennedetto> alright, ive got this kubuntu running now, but i've got a quick question
[11:42] <Bennedetto> my laptop monitor uses a 1280 by 800 resolution, but the Display settings in the System Settings will only allow 1024 by 768
[11:44] <Tm_T> Bennedetto: have you ever touched to xorg.conf ?
[11:44] <Bennedetto> yes i have
[11:44] <Bennedetto> i should just change it in there?
[11:44] <Tm_T> well, add
[11:44] <Tm_T> if it's not already there
[11:45] <Tm_T> that's first step
[11:45] <haypo> hi! how can i install kde 3.5.2 on Kubuntu?
[11:45] <haypo> i have KDE 3.5.0
[11:45] <Chryseus> www.kubuntu.org
[11:45] <Tm_T> !kde352
[11:45] <ubotu> Tm_T: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:45] <Tm_T> hmm
[11:45] <Tm_T> !kde3.52
[11:45] <ubotu> Tm_T: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:46] <Tm_T> !kde3.5.2
[11:46] <ubotu> methinks kde3.5.2 is to upgrade to KDE3.5.2, Follow the instructions at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-352.php (add the deb...line to your sources.list). Then "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".
[11:46] <Tm_T> aah, someone "fixed" it
[11:46] <Chryseus> :/
[11:46] <Chryseus> how stupid is that?
[11:46] <Tm_T> Chryseus: really
[11:46] <Chryseus> broken things<3
[11:47] <Bambino> does anyone know how i can make amarok work on my pc? I have dapper, but the xine engine is not working at all
[11:47] <Chryseus> Bambino: how is it _not_ working?
[11:48] <Bennedetto> Tm_T: all of the monitor info in my xorg.conf is set to 1280 by 800
[11:49] <Chryseus> Bennedetto: modelines too?
[11:49] <Bennedetto> yep
[11:49] <Chryseus> are they correct?
[11:50] <Bennedetto> Section "Monitor" Identifier      "Generic Monitor" Option          "DPMS" Modeline        "1280x800@60" 83.91 1280 1312 1624 1656 800 816 824 841
[11:50] <Bennedetto> EndSection
[11:51] <Chryseus> seems right :/
[11:51] <Bennedetto> yeah, thats what i though... but the display manager only has 1024 by 768
[11:52] <haypo> thanks Tm_T (and the bot ubotu)
[11:53] <haypo> Tm_T: i'm upgrading ... ;)
[11:53] <Tm_T> yay!
[11:54] <Bambino> Chryseus, when i play my music in amarok, it just jumps between them, without generating an error, almost as if i had no support for the mp3s.. however i can listen to them in xmms.
[11:54] <Chryseus> *sigh*
[11:54] <Blissex> Bambino: perhaps it does not use the same MP3 libraries, there are several types.
[11:54] <Blissex> Bambino: but most likely...
[11:55] <Blissex> Bambino: you have a version of amaroK that has been compiled without any MP3 support.
[11:55] <Chryseus> Bambino: kubuntu.org -> faq -> I can't play mp3's
[11:55] <Chryseus> or something
[11:55] <Blissex> Chryseus: but <Bambino> can play MP3s with XMMS he has said, so he has already done some of that.
[11:55] <Chryseus> nope
[11:56] <Blissex> Bambino: you need to upgrade most/all of your music players to the non-official versions that do use the non-official codecs.
[11:56] <doktoreas> hi guys!
[11:56] <Chryseus> http://www.kubuntu.org/faq.php#mp3s
[11:56] <doktoreas> just for knowing, witch tool ubuntu, uses to get the right resolution on the livecd?
[12:01] <Bambino> Chryseus, I am running gstreamer0.10 is that enough or i need 0.8 aswell
[12:01] <Chryseus> ..you on dapper?
[12:03] <Bambino> Chryseus, yes.
[12:03] <doktoreas> does it uses ddcxinfo-knoppix ?
[12:04] <Chryseus> And now you tell me
[12:05] <Bambino> Chryseus, Bambino does anyone know how i can make amarok work on my pc? I have dapper, but the xine engine is not working at all
[12:05] <Tm_T> Bambino: tell me more about it
[12:05] <Bambino> Chryseus, :P
[12:05] <Tm_T> "doesn't work" doesn't tell anything about the problem