[03:31] <_pip> hello!
[03:31] <_pip> why so few people here ?
[03:32] <CuriousCat> hello _pip :)
[03:35] <_pip> CuriousCat: May I say good morning ?
[03:36] <CuriousCat> well, it's evening here on my end. But if it's morning on yours, it's ok. :)
[03:36] <_pip> CuriousCat: Oh, you are wrong .here China!
[03:37] <CuriousCat> ah! :) Then good evening! We're more or less in the same time zone
[03:37] <CuriousCat> Give or take an hour
[03:37] <_pip> CuriousCat: the same time zone ? really ? good evening 
[03:38] <_pip> CuriousCat: are you in Aisa
[03:38] <CuriousCat> yup. GMT+8
[03:38] <_pip> CuriousCat: haha!
[03:38] <_pip> CuriousCat: Correct
[03:38] <_pip> CuriousCat: your Eng is perfect
[03:38] <CuriousCat> Thank you. :)
[03:39] <_pip> CuriousCat: do you speak Chinese ?
[03:40] <CuriousCat> Nope. Sorry. :)
[03:40] <_pip> CuriousCat: let's talk about Java ,shall we ?
[03:41] <CuriousCat> :) 
[03:42] <_pip> CuriousCat: How long have you used java for development?
[03:43] <CuriousCat> About five to six years. :)
[03:43] <CuriousCat> Training and development. Mostly on web applications
[03:44] <_pip> CuriousCat: you are an expert on Java. : )
[03:44] <_pip> CuriousCat: how do you find Java ?
[03:45] <CuriousCat> LOL! I don't think i'm still good enough to be called an expert. I do what I can. :)
[03:46] <CuriousCat> hi again!
[03:46] <CuriousCat> Like i said earlier, I don't think i'm still good enough to be called an expert. I do what I can. :)
[03:47] <_pip> CuriousCat: how did you learn java at first ?
[03:47] <CuriousCat> Forced self-study for a project. :) It was a paradigm shift for me considering that I was once using Visual Basic 6. LOL!
[03:48] <_pip> CuriousCat: I think you must know C# ,so what'is your opinion about C# and Java?
[03:49] <Terminus> anybody want pizza for dinner? :)
[03:49] <_pip> CuriousCat: OK! I am going to learn from you!
[03:49] <_pip> Terminus: pizza is good ,but how much ?
[03:49] <CuriousCat> I've seen a bit of C# but not most of it. So I don't really have enough knowledge to make a comparison between the two languages. Except that they're fairly similar in notation so it's a bit easy to switch between the two.
[03:50] <CuriousCat> You take care of the pizza. I'll take care of the drinks. ;)
[03:50] <_pip> CuriousCat: I see!
[03:50] <Terminus> _pip: i've got one on my bed. :)
[03:50] <Terminus> CuriousCat: awww...
[03:50] <_pip> CuriousCat: IN fact I am joking!
[03:50] <Terminus> i hate virtual meals. hehe
[03:50] <CuriousCat> Terminus, i have wine and softdrinks chilling in the fridge. :D
[03:50] <_pip> Terminus: me too@1
[03:51] <_pip> Terminus: Hi! you are hormous .
[03:51] <Terminus> CuriousCat: can i have virtual wine then? =))
[03:51] <Terminus> hi there _pip. i'm what? :)
[03:51] <CuriousCat> Terminus, what kind? :D
[03:52] <_pip> Terminus: humors
[03:52] <_pip> Terminus: sorry! : )
[03:52] <Terminus> _pip: i see. hehe
[03:52] <Terminus> CuriousCat: i don't really know much about wine. is red wine enough info for you? hehe
[03:52] <_pip> Terminus: are you American ?
[03:53] <Terminus> _pip: nope. i'm a few hundred kilometers south of CuriousCat 
[03:53] <_pip> Terminus: Good evening!
[03:53] <CuriousCat> Terminus, sweet red wine? dry red wine? Chardonay or California Red? :D
[03:54] <Terminus> _pip: good evening to you too. :)
[03:54] <_pip> Terminus: Why do you two speak perfect English ?
[03:55] <Terminus> CuriousCat: i give up. i'll take the virtual water. tap water is good. i don't want to get into a discussion of the variations regarding bottled water. :p
[03:55] <_pip> Terminus: I admire your spoken-English!
[03:56] <Terminus> _pip: thanks. we're just used to it i guess...
[03:56] <Terminus> _pip: on the other hand, i can't speak mandarin, japanese, or any other language. hehe
 Well, on my end, English is my first language thanks to my Dad, Sesame Street and Electric Company (yeah, i'm old)
[03:56] <_pip> Terminus: Chinese ,do you?
[03:57] <Terminus> _pip: nope.
[03:57] <_pip> Terminus: ) I think there are many Chinese people in your country,right?
[03:58] <CuriousCat> _pip, quite a lot I suppose.
[03:59] <_pip> CuriousCat: I am younger than you I think . I am a college student.
[04:00] <CuriousCat> most likely younger. :)
[04:00] <_pip> CuriousCat: let's go on Java topic. The most important thing on Java I want to understand is the thought of object-oriented!
[04:02] <CuriousCat> _pip, ok. Ask away. :)
[04:02] <_pip> CuriousCat: how do you find object-oriented language programming like Java ?
[04:03] <CuriousCat> Are you asking if I like the way Java implements OO?
[04:03] <_pip> CuriousCat: I think few developers can understand the thought deeply though they can code a lot@
[04:04] <CuriousCat> well, it helps when you know some design patterns when dealing with OO.
[04:05] <_pip> CuriousCat: I don't know design patterns . 
[04:05] <_pip> CuriousCat:should I learn design patterns firstly?
[04:06] <_pip> CuriousCat: I read something about dp ,but it is so abstruse!
[04:07] <CuriousCat> _pip, learn the basics of OO first. Then take a look at the design patterns. Try searching for "Gang of Four" in google.
[04:07] <_pip> CuriousCat: roger!
[04:08] <CuriousCat> I have an old one here from James W. Cooper ("The Design Patterns Java Companion") which is a big help as well. :)
[04:09] <_pip> CuriousCat: Book ?
[04:09] <CuriousCat> yup.
[04:09] <_pip> CuriousCat: I even can't design a good class!
[04:10] <CuriousCat> lol! takes some getting used to. :) But the design patterns should help you with class designs.
[04:11] <_pip> CuriousCat: I would have seen you in the past!
[04:11] <CuriousCat> _pip, hmm? How come? :)
[04:12] <_pip> CuriousCat: hehe~~~: )
[04:15] <_pip> CuriousCat: will  you come to China 2008?
 if i have the funds for it, why not? :)
[04:17] <CuriousCat> i'd love to see the olympics LIVE for once. haha!
[04:18] <_pip> CuriousCat: welcome 
[04:18] <_pip> CuriousCat: By then wo could meet each other!
[04:19] <CuriousCat> _pip, here's the design patterns from James W Cooper: http://www.patterndepot.com/put/8/JavaPatterns.htm
[04:19] <_pip> CuriousCat: GangoffFour 
[04:22] <CuriousCat> _pip, this one also good: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0596007124/ref=pd_bxgy_text_b/002-4895432-6679245?%5Fencoding=UTF8
[04:22] <_pip> CuriousCat: Is it sold in CHina?
[04:22] <CuriousCat> i'm not sure. I guess there would be, somehow
[04:23] <_pip> CuriousCat: The name of the book is Design Patterns,right ?
[04:23] <CuriousCat> yes
[04:24] <_pip> CuriousCat: I see! I can buy it nearby here
[04:24] <CuriousCat> :)
[04:26] <_pip> CuriousCat: what kind of cpmputer do you have ?
[04:26] <CuriousCat> _pip, http://tuxmobil.org/asus_l4500r.html
[04:28] <_pip> CuriousCat: many thanks!
[04:28] <CuriousCat> no problem. :)
[04:32] <_pip> CuriousCat: I am going to buy a new laptop .
[04:33] <CuriousCat> What a coincidence! So am I! :)
[04:33] <_pip> CuriousCat: the one I am using isn't good ,especially its graphic card is not good!
[04:34] <_pip> CuriousCat: So ,as you like ,which one will you choose!
[04:35] <CuriousCat> _pip, read it in my blog (http://thegeekettespeaketh.pinoyweb.net). I've been writing about it for a couple of weeks. Look under the ones with the title "Geek Obssessed"
[04:36] <_pip> CuriousCat: Besides java programing ,I hava other hobbies,such as playing with visual machine(software) which call for a high perfoermancy speed working!@ 
[04:36] <_pip> CuriousCat: with pleasure : )
[04:37] <CuriousCat> :D
[04:44] <_pip> CuriousCat: I can't open if ,I think the my network is slow!
[04:44] <CuriousCat> ah! that's ok. :)
[04:49] <_pip> CuriousCat: do you use Xchat ?
[04:50] <CuriousCat> yup. i'm using it now
[04:50] <_pip> CuriousCat: now I am using kubuntu.
[04:50] <_pip> CuriousCat: so it is konversation as its default IRC client
[04:51] <CuriousCat> ah!
[04:52] <_pip> CuriousCat: KDE runs slow than gnome! so I am going to change it into ubuntu in a few days! 
[05:00] <_pip> CuriousCat: I have to leave now ,see you later!
[05:00] <_pip> CuriousCat: nice meeting you!
[05:00] <CuriousCat> ok! bye!
[05:00] <CuriousCat> nice meeting you too!