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| LaserJock | dang it, how do you get ^M to turn into a newline | 12:17 |
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| crimsun | interactively, or? | 12:21 |
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| JustinLynn | slomo> I've been testing your package and so far it's been great I've built several applications and banshee plugins with it. Absolutely no complaints or apparent bugs :) | 01:15 |
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| Toadstool | 'night | 01:47 |
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| bddebian | Heya gang | 03:14 |
| ajmitch | good day sir | 03:15 |
| bddebian | Heya ajmitch | 03:15 |
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| LaserJock | hi bddebian and ajmitch | 03:31 |
| bddebian | Heya LaserJock | 03:32 |
| LaserJock | bddebian: was saoimage FTBS? | 03:33 |
| bddebian | Yep | 03:35 |
| bddebian | And gone from Debian | 03:35 |
| LaserJock | k | 03:35 |
| ajmitch | hello LaserJock | 03:36 |
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| LaserJock | bddebian: ok, I filed bugs for tyvis and saoimage | 03:53 |
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| bddebian | LaserJock_away: Rock on d00d | 04:01 |
| bddebian | OK, damnit, how can adding a desktop file and a couple dh_install commands screw up dh_shlibdeps? | 04:02 |
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| crimsun | bddebian: does it really do cp /usr/lib/dx/bin/dx [..] ? | 04:46 |
| bddebian | The rules file is a mess | 04:47 |
| bddebian | I'm rebuilding currently so I'll let you know :-) | 04:47 |
| crimsun | bddebian: ok. That source file looks suspiciously absolute and not relative to the root of the extracted source. | 04:47 |
| bddebian | crimsun: ? | 04:48 |
| bddebian | Damn cernlib is hideous too | 04:48 |
| crimsun | if debian/rules actually executes a cp /some/absolute/path instead of cp $(pwd)/relative/path, ... | 04:48 |
| bddebian | Ahh | 04:48 |
| bddebian | crimsun: Still around? | 05:27 |
| crimsun | bddebian: you caught me right before I suspended to get groceries | 05:28 |
| bddebian | Ah, go ahead | 05:28 |
| crimsun | k, back in a bit. | 05:28 |
| bddebian | ok | 05:28 |
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| bddebian | Gnight folks | 06:34 |
| crimsun | 'night | 06:34 |
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| dholbach | HAPPY HUG DAY! | 07:29 |
| Hobbsee | hi dholbach | 07:31 |
| dholbach | hey Hobbsee | 07:32 |
| Hobbsee | hug day already hey? | 07:33 |
| Hobbsee | i thought it would be on my saturday... | 07:33 |
| dholbach | nah... when we realized friday would be "easter" and everybody would be busy having fun with their family, we moved to thursday :) | 07:34 |
| Hobbsee | ah...that's a point... | 07:34 |
| dholbach | yeah :) | 07:35 |
| dholbach | so,,, happy hug day! :) | 07:35 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 07:36 |
| === Hobbsee has found a bug with a newer version of kpowersave that i'm testing out - does that count? | ||
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| dholbach | uhhhh, the one that got motu-uvf approval? | 07:41 |
| Hobbsee | dunno, i didnt know it was going for UVF approval | 07:42 |
| === Hobbsee will have to go look | ||
| dholbach | 0.5.2 -> 0.6.0 | 07:44 |
| Hobbsee | yeah, 0.6.0 - there you go... | 07:46 |
| dholbach | Hobbsee: can you follow up on the bug report (bug 39221)? (if it's 'just a bug' we have to report it upstream immediately - if it makes the world unhappy, we have to think twice about updating) | 07:48 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 39221 in kpowersave "UVF exception 0.5.2 -> 0.6.0" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/39221 | 07:48 |
| Hobbsee | dholbach: can i follow it up? how do you mean? | 07:50 |
| dholbach | Hobbsee: just write about the problem you see with the new version | 07:51 |
| Hobbsee | dholbach: package was fine with the old kernel, i'll have to test agian with the new one... | 07:51 |
| dholbach | ah ok | 07:51 |
| Hobbsee | but i'll check on it, yeah | 07:51 |
| dholbach | because you said, you found a bug | 07:52 |
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| Hobbsee | yeah, i did. not sure yet if that's related to acpi or kpowersave though | 07:52 |
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| dholbach | Hobbsee: ah ok | 07:52 |
| Unfrgiven | hi all | 07:58 |
| dholbach | hey Unfrgiven! happy hug day! | 07:58 |
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| Unfrgiven | oh yeah completely forgot about that! | 08:04 |
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| Hobbsee | interesting... | 08:05 |
| Unfrgiven | does the UVF apply to universe as well?? | 08:05 |
| Hobbsee | Unfrgiven: yes | 08:06 |
| Unfrgiven | Hobbsee: bummer | 08:06 |
| Hobbsee | heh | 08:06 |
| Hobbsee | you can write an exception, if you like... | 08:06 |
| Unfrgiven | i might have to raise an exception. im packaging madwifi-ng drivers atm | 08:07 |
| Unfrgiven | almost done. | 08:07 |
| Unfrgiven | arent the new nvidia drivers just great? suspend rocks! | 08:09 |
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| root__ | oh shit... | 08:21 |
| === Hobbsee is now getting an error 15 from grub, which stops her system from booting! | ||
| Hobbsee | dunno exactly what i did, but it clearly wasnt good! | 08:23 |
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| === Hobbsee cries. loudly. | ||
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| dholbach | Hobbsee: oh... how did that happen? | 08:30 |
| Unfrgiven | Hobbsee: did you install something new? did you fiddle with the grub conf files? | 08:30 |
| Unfrgiven | Hobbsee: could it be a hardware problem? | 08:31 |
| Hobbsee | ah... | 08:31 |
| Hobbsee | well i did a remove ndiswrapper* | 08:31 |
| Hobbsee | and then rebooted eventually g | 08:31 |
| Hobbsee | getting a grub error 15 | 08:31 |
| Unfrgiven | Hobbsee: that shouldn't cause an error. | 08:31 |
| Hobbsee | it shouldnt, no | 08:31 |
| Hobbsee | can someone tell me what a grub error 15 is please, and how i fix it? | 08:32 |
| Unfrgiven | Hobbsee: ive just googled it. | 08:32 |
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| Hobbsee | i can only have one window open at a time, so i'm kinda helpless | 08:32 |
| Unfrgiven | apparently it means that grub can't find your kernel | 08:32 |
| Hobbsee | Unfrgiven: thank's very much | 08:32 |
| Hobbsee | yeah, i'd gotten that much...it cant find any of them... | 08:32 |
| === Hobbsee is booted into a recovery thingo, of the latest kernel | ||
| Unfrgiven | Hobbsee: wait, so you can boot into ur recovery kernel but not your normal one? | 08:33 |
| Hobbsee | Unfrgiven: yes | 08:33 |
| Hobbsee | and then can do startx, which is where i am now | 08:33 |
| Hobbsee | yes, as root (eek!) | 08:34 |
| Unfrgiven | Hobbsee: aight no problems. reboot and edit the recovery line. remove the parameter that says single | 08:34 |
| Unfrgiven | that should get you into your normal boot | 08:34 |
| Hobbsee | remove the parameter that says single? | 08:35 |
| Lure | Hobbsee: there are other reports with error 15 on boot in forums | 08:35 |
| Hobbsee | Lure: i'll bet there are - but i cant get to any :P | 08:35 |
| Unfrgiven | yeah thats the one | 08:35 |
| Hobbsee | i cant STFW if i can only have one window open at a time hehe! | 08:36 |
| Unfrgiven | Hobbsee: that will boot you into your mornal environment | 08:36 |
| Unfrgiven | and then you can debug the problem once you are in your normal env | 08:36 |
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| Lure | can you post menu.lstr | 08:37 |
| Lure | (pastebin) | 08:37 |
| Hobbsee | Lure: no, i dont have a script to pastebin | 08:37 |
| Hobbsee | yes, it's frustrating - it's frustrating here too | 08:37 |
| dholbach | in the recovery thingie, you could try to run update-grub | 08:38 |
| Unfrgiven | Hobbsee: dont remove the single parameter in your grub/menu.lst | 08:38 |
| dholbach | and see what happens | 08:38 |
| Unfrgiven | Hobbsee: what is the difference between the recovery kernel conf and your normal kernel conf in grub/menu.lst? | 08:38 |
| Hobbsee | Unfrgiven: i thought you just said to remove it | 08:38 |
| Hobbsee | ah, it's got "quiet splash" in the normal one or something... | 08:39 |
| Unfrgiven | Hobbsee: i mean that you should remove it when you are booting. not change the files | 08:40 |
| Hobbsee | dholbach: that seemed to do something, i'll see... | 08:40 |
| Unfrgiven | Hobbsee: grub allows you to edit your boot parameters when you are booting | 08:40 |
| Hobbsee | Unfrgiven: ah ok, it reverted the changes anyway with update-grub | 08:40 |
| dholbach | do you have /Boot on a separate partition that is full? | 08:40 |
| Unfrgiven | Hobbsee: press "e" when grub shows you the menu | 08:40 |
| Hobbsee | Unfrgiven: true...i was being lazy, still signed in here | 08:40 |
| Hobbsee | yeah, i know where you mean | 08:40 |
| Hobbsee | dholbach: no, /boot's not on a separate partition | 08:40 |
| Unfrgiven | Hobbsee: hehe typical software developer, lazy :P | 08:41 |
| === Hobbsee suspects that in removing some ndiswrapper stuff, she removed some kernel stuff too | ||
| Hobbsee | anyway, back in a min, will try those bits... | 08:41 |
| Unfrgiven | Hobbsee: so you are saying that the recovery image and normal image are the same? | 08:41 |
| Unfrgiven | Hobbsee: because if they are using the same image then i cant see how the recovery is working but normal isnt | 08:42 |
| Hobbsee | Unfrgiven: recovery has single in the parameters, normal has quiet, splash in the parameters | 08:42 |
| Unfrgiven | Hobbsee: is the kernel image the same for both? | 08:42 |
| Hobbsee | i reverted the changes on the menu.lst when i ran update-grub | 08:42 |
| Hobbsee | Unfrgiven: yes, everythign else is the same | 08:42 |
| Hobbsee | back in a min... | 08:42 |
| Hobbsee | hmmm...how to get out... | 08:42 |
| Hobbsee | oh yes... | 08:42 |
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| Unfrgiven | Hobbsee: yay! | 08:46 |
| Hobbsee | dholbach: Unfrgiven ok...well... | 08:46 |
| Hobbsee | that was interesting... | 08:46 |
| Hobbsee | update grub didnt work, removing the single line manually did | 08:47 |
| Hobbsee | and i can have more than one window open at a time now - yay! | 08:47 |
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| Unfrgiven | Hobbsee: removing the single is not the right long term solution | 08:49 |
| Hobbsee_ | okay... | 08:49 |
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| Hobbsee | this gets weirder and weirder... | 09:05 |
| Unfrgiven | im off all... cya | 09:08 |
| Hobbsee | dholbach: any idea what the savedefault line does in the kernel? | 09:11 |
| Hobbsee | er, menu.list? | 09:11 |
| Hobbsee | man grub didnt show much... | 09:13 |
| Lure | Hobbsee: it remebers last selected option that was booted and offers it as default | 09:14 |
| Lure | only the kernels with savedefault qualify | 09:14 |
| Lure | but you also need to change default to "saved" or simlar instead of explicit number (to use it) | 09:15 |
| Hobbsee | Lure: interesting. so...that would be giving an error 15 how? | 09:15 |
| Hobbsee | well, how does one change it? | 09:15 |
| Lure | maybe... not sure that this could have such big side effect, but I have not used it | 09:15 |
| Hobbsee | presumably the last setting got corrupted somehow, or something? | 09:15 |
| Lure | but I think this is onlt proposed default (instead of hardcoded item list number) | 09:16 |
| Lure | you may want to comment out savedefault in the problematic kernel and see if it helps | 09:16 |
| Lure | can you post your menu.lst to pastebin? | 09:16 |
| Hobbsee | Lure: it's already there, i'll find the link... | 09:17 |
| Hobbsee | Lure: http://pastebin.com/657122 | 09:17 |
| Hobbsee | i have a new thing there, a copy of the first one, identical to the first one, - the save default line, and it works perfectly... | 09:17 |
| Lure | interesting... maybe you should file the bug... | 09:19 |
| Hobbsee | Lure: under what? | 09:19 |
| Lure | grub | 09:19 |
| Hobbsee | ahhh... | 09:19 |
| Lure | Hobbsee: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=151222&page=6&highlight=kpowersave | 09:21 |
| Lure | reinstalling grub helped for people... - maybe powersave is doing something with grub... | 09:21 |
| === Hobbsee suspects this is the case | ||
| Hobbsee | it's definetly something to do with savedefault though... | 09:22 |
| Hobbsee | heh, you beat me to it Lure! | 09:23 |
| Lure | ;-) | 09:24 |
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| cbx33 | hey all | 09:24 |
| Lure | Hobbsee: it may be powersave - see /etc/powersave/sleep and try changing BOOT_LOADER="OTHER" | 09:24 |
| Lure | it may be that powersave does something to grub before suspend (that does not work on Ubuntu) | 09:25 |
| Lure | will look into powersave code what this option does | 09:25 |
| === Lure has to run - more time in 8 hours or so... | ||
| Hobbsee | okay, thanks anyway | 09:27 |
| cbx33 | i have a package here, where the source and binary packages seem to differ | 09:30 |
| cbx33 | oh | 09:30 |
| cbx33 | hmmmm | 09:30 |
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| cbx33 | how do apply all dpatches to the current source | 09:33 |
| cbx33 | hmmm | 09:49 |
| dholbach | dpatch apply-all | 09:49 |
| === Hobbsee waves again to dholbach | ||
| Hobbsee | oh yes, bug report...yes... | 09:50 |
| cbx33 | thankyou | 09:50 |
| dholbach | Hobbsee: take your time... :) | 09:50 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 09:50 |
| Hobbsee | dholbach: you fix grub by any chance? | 09:50 |
| dholbach | Hobbsee: no... I'm not mad enough - sorry | 09:51 |
| Hobbsee | hehe! | 09:51 |
| cbx33 | got another quickie | 09:51 |
| cbx33 | say I've just done an apt-get source | 09:51 |
| cbx33 | and i want to apply all changes to the source and build it to test it | 09:51 |
| Hobbsee | $%^&%&^* | 09:51 |
| Hobbsee | why oh why must launchpad search be borked again??? | 09:52 |
| dholbach | cbx33: what do you want to do exactly? | 09:52 |
| cbx33 | well i'm working on an issue, but when i build the package from the source dir to ompare against my installed versions they behave differently | 09:52 |
| cbx33 | I've just applied all the patches and it's still doing the same | 09:52 |
| cbx33 | what am i doing wrong :p | 09:52 |
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| dholbach | I still don't understand, sorry | 09:53 |
| cbx33 | ok....I've apt-get installed a package | 09:53 |
| dholbach | you build a package and apply its patches against it and you build it and it does the same | 09:53 |
| cbx33 | ran the binary with no options and I get one help message | 09:53 |
| dholbach | that's expected, no? | 09:53 |
| cbx33 | if i then download the source...apply all patches | 09:54 |
| cbx33 | and build that source | 09:54 |
| cbx33 | and run it with no options | 09:54 |
| cbx33 | i get a diferent message | 09:54 |
| cbx33 | does that make sense? or am i going mad? | 09:55 |
| dholbach | if you run debuild to build the package, you don'T have to manually apply patches | 09:55 |
| cbx33 | ok | 09:55 |
| dholbach | that's done automatically | 09:55 |
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| cbx33 | ok | 09:55 |
| cbx33 | trying now | 09:55 |
| dholbach | so after rebuilding a package, it's behaving differently - is that what you're trying? | 09:56 |
| cbx33 | yes | 09:56 |
| cbx33 | and I've made no changes | 09:56 |
| dholbach | are the changes desirable? :) | 09:57 |
| cbx33 | no | 09:57 |
| cbx33 | :p | 09:57 |
| cbx33 | i think it must be some kind of envrionment setting...or something | 09:57 |
| dholbach | well then investigate what in the build-dependency chain changed :) | 09:57 |
| cbx33 | indeed i shall | 09:57 |
| cbx33 | grr this one is driving me nuts | 09:57 |
| === cbx33 notes that it'd proably take you guys 2 secs to figure it out :p | ||
| mitsuhiko | ogra_ibook: around? | 09:59 |
| cbx33 | they two binaries are definitely different | 09:59 |
| mitsuhiko | hi all btw | 09:59 |
| Hobbsee | hi mitsuhiko | 09:59 |
| cbx33 | ok they are different | 10:00 |
| cbx33 | the binary pacakge doesn't seem to have been created from the current source pacakge | 10:00 |
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| imbrandon | i got a few questions if anyone is awake ... | 11:03 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: people are usually awake. whether they know the answers is a different question | 11:03 |
| imbrandon | heh ok here go's ( long story shory i'm not a linux newb but a newb to submitting stuff to MOTU ) and I have a bug fix for https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kbfx/+bug/38226 and would like to also know about maintaing it in the future , what i need to go about doing to submit it etc | 11:05 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 38226 in kbfx "kbfx control panel crashes" [Normal,Confirmed] | 11:05 |
| Hobbsee | jpatrick currently maintains it. you can certainly submit the patch... | 11:06 |
| imbrandon | ahh nice ok, waseent sure how to find the maintainer or if there was one etc | 11:07 |
| Hobbsee | use the "add attachment" link on the launchpad | 11:07 |
| Hobbsee | maintainer is on the left of that page, just over half way down | 11:07 |
| Hobbsee | Maintainer: Jonathan Patrick Davies | 11:07 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: see https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-motu/2006-February/000545.html for more info | 11:07 |
| imbrandon | ahhh ok , i see now, like i said kinda newb ;) i'm a long time linux user and programer but new to ubuntu ( only 6 or so months ) but glad there are easy ways to contribute ;) | 11:08 |
| Hobbsee | if the patch works, it'd be great to have it | 11:08 |
| === Hobbsee messages jpatrick | ||
| imbrandon | ;) tell him it will be on the way shortly , just need to look it over one last time etc ;) | 11:08 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: he's coming | 11:09 |
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| imbrandon | ahh nice lol that was FAST lol | 11:09 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 11:09 |
| jpatrick | morning | 11:09 |
| imbrandon | morning ;) | 11:09 |
| Hobbsee | jpatrick: http://pastebin.com/657241 | 11:09 |
| imbrandon | one sec lemme grab another cup of java | 11:09 |
| Hobbsee | (previous chat log) | 11:10 |
| jpatrick | read it | 11:11 |
| Hobbsee | cool :) | 11:11 |
| imbrandon | kk back | 11:12 |
| jpatrick | Hobbsee: it's a major bug, so i think we can upload without uvf thingies | 11:13 |
| Hobbsee | ah ok | 11:13 |
| imbrandon | morning jpatrick, basicly what i've found is that the 0.4.8.2 sources work great ( no crash ) so i patched in them to the ubuntu 4.8.0 sources and packaged it up | 11:13 |
| imbrandon | BUT i'm new to the MOTU stuff etc ;) so i came for guidance about submiting the patch and further ubuntu maintaining the kbfx stuff | 11:14 |
| jpatrick | imbrandon: attach the patch and I'll test it then upload. :) | 11:14 |
| imbrandon | k gimme about 5 or 10 min | 11:14 |
| imbrandon | ok its uploading now jpatrick | 11:29 |
| imbrandon | k uploaded | 11:30 |
| jpatrick | that is one big patch | 11:31 |
| imbrandon | it patched the new artwork from kbfx cvs too ;( | 11:31 |
| jpatrick | and it has some binary data in it too | 11:32 |
| imbrandon | yea i was trying to get rid of the artwork, i can redo it one sec if you like | 11:32 |
| jpatrick | ok | 11:32 |
| imbrandon | gimme about 2 more min to del all the new png's | 11:33 |
| imbrandon | they arent needed anyhow lol | 11:33 |
| jpatrick | :) | 11:34 |
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| jpatrick | hi slomo, tuxmaniac | 11:51 |
| slomo | hi jpatrick | 11:51 |
| tuxmaniac | jpatrick: Hi | 11:52 |
| imbrandon | hehe ok much better down to 128kb jpatrick | 11:52 |
| imbrandon | reuploaded with no patch for the new images | 11:52 |
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| jpatrick | imbrandon: /root/kbfx0490/kbfxspinx/.kbfx_vista_button.h.swp looks funky | 11:54 |
| imbrandon | k one sec | 11:54 |
| imbrandon | hmmm thats how it looks in cvs too but it builds fine without it, i bet its from one of the developers closed vim too soon and created a .swp file | 11:58 |
| imbrandon | and it got uploaded to cvs | 11:58 |
| imbrandon | "b0VIM 6.3^@^" is from the begining of it | 11:59 |
| imbrandon | is why i say vim , i use nano myself | 11:59 |
| imbrandon | brb one sec, coffee time | 11:59 |
| Toadstool | hi all | 12:02 |
| imbrandon | hello | 12:02 |
| imbrandon | that help at all jpatrick ? *newb hopes* | 12:11 |
| jpatrick | I'll remove the .swp file | 12:11 |
| imbrandon | k | 12:12 |
| imbrandon | yea i did and it dident seem to have an effect, like i said must have been left over from a vim crash | 12:13 |
| jpatrick | I can't seem to modify the diff | 12:13 |
| jpatrick | odd | 12:13 |
| imbrandon | ? | 12:13 |
| imbrandon | hmmm nano/kwrite etc ? | 12:14 |
| imbrandon | perms mabe its chownd to me | 12:14 |
| jpatrick | I can with nano but not kate | 12:14 |
| imbrandon | odd | 12:14 |
| imbrandon | brb | 12:15 |
| jpatrick | imbrandon: polishing patch | 12:32 |
| imbrandon | ;) | 12:38 |
| jpatrick | imbrandon: building | 12:47 |
| jpatrick | Trying patch debian/patches/kubuntu_01_kbfx.diff at level 0...1...2...failure. | 12:49 |
| imbrandon | ouch | 12:50 |
| jpatrick | maybe it's because it's against kbfx-0.4.8.2? | 12:50 |
| imbrandon | might be, i'm trying to rebuild it too now | 12:50 |
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| jpatrick | because kbfx-0.4.8 is the one in the archives | 12:51 |
| imbrandon | ahhhh yea shiznit, i just realized that | 12:52 |
| jpatrick | :( | 12:52 |
| imbrandon | ok leme go back, heh anyway to delete those patches and let me make a new one ( on the bugtracker ) | 12:52 |
| ajmitch | evening | 12:52 |
| jpatrick | afternoond ajmitch | 12:53 |
| jpatrick | imbrandon: I did like the look of the patch | 12:53 |
| imbrandon | ;) wont take be but just a few minutes to make up a new ( hopefulle correct one ) | 12:55 |
| Hobbsee | hi ajmitch | 12:55 |
| Hobbsee | welcome to the holidays! | 12:55 |
| ajmitch | heh :) | 12:57 |
| ajmitch | hey Hobbsee | 12:57 |
| ajmitch | how's it going? | 12:57 |
| Hobbsee | i'm okay :) fixed my assignment (*curses at bug she didnt see before, in the background*) | 12:57 |
| Hobbsee | it's now ready for checkpoint 2, to point out any other major bugs... | 12:57 |
| ajmitch | great | 12:58 |
| Hobbsee | didnt crash in the masses of rain, or get terminally lost... | 12:58 |
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| Hobbsee | girls arent good at direction you know lol - particularly when it's raining so hard that it's almost impossible to see the street signs! | 12:59 |
| ajmitch | hah | 01:00 |
| ajmitch | thankfully it's been a nice day here :) | 01:00 |
| Hobbsee | :) | 01:01 |
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| imbrandon | ok jpatrick I grabed new CLEAN kbfx source from the deb-src respo and dif a diff against it excluding the xpm images | 01:07 |
| imbrandon | uploaded and ready | 01:07 |
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| Goshawk__ | hi | 01:09 |
| Goshawk__ | i've a problem packaging a program for ubuntu dapper, can i ask here? | 01:09 |
| jpatrick | yes | 01:09 |
| Goshawk__ | i've a problem with a package. A package X depends from package Y. But i'm going to package a program Z that substitutes Y. So i wanna make a package Z that is compatible with the X package. is there a way to do this? | 01:09 |
| jpatrick | imbrandon: loads of png's | 01:10 |
| Hobbsee | Goshawk__: you make package Z have a conflicts: package Y, and have package X depending on package Z, instead of package Y, dont you? | 01:10 |
| Goshawk__ | yep | 01:11 |
| Goshawk__ | that is the problem | 01:11 |
| === Goshawk__ sees debian policy about provides (this should solve this used with conflicts and replaces) | ||
| imbrandon | grrr coffee time , i took only the xpm's out not png's | 01:12 |
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| imbrandon | k jpatrick gimme a few, i'm glad your being patient with me | 01:13 |
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| jpatrick | anything to fix that bug | 01:13 |
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| tman | hi, I've just packed a package, how do i submit it to revu using dput? | 01:26 |
| tman | i dont have any source.changes files :( | 01:26 |
| jpatrick | did you use the -S -sa flags? | 01:27 |
| tman | yep dpkg-buildpackage -S -sa -rfakeroot | 01:28 |
| tman | but the package was already bult :s | 01:28 |
| tman | with dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot | 01:28 |
| tman | and then I ran dpkg-buildpackage -S -sa -rfakeroot | 01:29 |
| jpatrick | :/ | 01:30 |
| imbrandon | ko jpatrick patch ( take 2 ) uploaded | 01:32 |
| imbrandon | i went through it with nano this time to make sure no xpms or pngs lol | 01:33 |
| tman | well, I did a debuild -S -sa and now I got the source.changes subtitleeditor_0.7.2-0ubuntu1_source.changes | 01:34 |
| tman | but I got this message as well :s | 01:34 |
| tman | E: subtitleeditor source: package-uses-debhelper-but-lacks-build-depends | 01:34 |
| tman | W: subtitleeditor source: dh-make-template-in-source debian/cron.d.ex | 01:34 |
| tman | W: subtitleeditor source: dh-make-template-in-source debian/menu.ex | 01:34 |
| tman | W: subtitleeditor source: dh-make-template-in-source debian/watch.ex | 01:34 |
| tman | W: subtitleeditor source: dh-make-template-in-source debian/subtitleeditor-default.ex | 01:34 |
| tman | W: subtitleeditor source: dh-make-template-in-source debian/subtitleeditor.doc-base.EX | 01:34 |
| tman | W: subtitleeditor source: dh-make-template-in-source debian/conffiles.ex | 01:34 |
| tman | W: subtitleeditor source: dh-make-template-in-source debian/manpage.1.ex | 01:34 |
| tman | W: subtitleeditor source: dh-make-template-in-source debian/manpage.sgml.ex | 01:34 |
| jpatrick | flood... | 01:34 |
| tman | W: subtitleeditor source: dh-make-template-in-source debian/manpage.xml.ex | 01:34 |
| tman | W: subtitleeditor source: native-package-with-dash-version | 01:34 |
| tman | W: subtitleeditor source: maintainer-not-full-name chantra | 01:34 |
| tman | so I wonder if the source.changes is right :s | 01:34 |
| jpatrick | rm debian/*.ex | 01:35 |
| tman | jpatrick: sorry for the flood | 01:35 |
| tman | so, if I wan't to submit the package, do I only have to dput *_source.changes ? | 01:36 |
| tman | there is nothing in it :s | 01:36 |
| tman | well, got to go, will gie another try later on | 01:37 |
| jpatrick | sign it with your key | 01:37 |
| tman | how? | 01:37 |
| jpatrick | imbrandon: building ( take 2 ) | 01:37 |
| jpatrick | -kYOURKEY | 01:37 |
| tman | ? | 01:38 |
| imbrandon | k coffee break afk 5 min | 01:38 |
| jpatrick | tman: do you have a gpg key? | 01:38 |
| tman | yep | 01:38 |
| jpatrick | debuild -S -sa -k$(keynumber) | 01:39 |
| tman | okie done | 01:40 |
| tman | Uploading via ftp subtitleeditor_0.7.2-0ubuntu1.dsc: done. | 01:40 |
| tman | Uploading via ftp subtitleeditor_0.7.2-0ubuntu1.tar.gz: | 01:40 |
| tman | :) | 01:40 |
| jpatrick | imbrandon: messy http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/657452 | 01:40 |
| tman | jpatrick: thanks for your help | 01:40 |
| imbrandon | *looks* | 01:40 |
| jpatrick | not sure what happened there.. | 01:41 |
| imbrandon | whoa | 01:41 |
| tman | what should I expect then, a mail from the motu? | 01:41 |
| imbrandon | hmmm | 01:41 |
| jpatrick | imbrandon: where can i get the 0.4.8.2 tarball? | 01:41 |
| imbrandon | one sec | 01:41 |
| jpatrick | tman: get someone to revu it | 01:41 |
| tman | :) | 01:42 |
| tman | do they mail you back then? | 01:42 |
| jpatrick | no | 01:42 |
| jpatrick | it goes on the site | 01:42 |
| tman | to tell what os wrong | 01:42 |
| tman | okie | 01:42 |
| tman | got to go, cheers again | 01:42 |
| imbrandon | http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/kbfx/kbfx-0.4.8.2.tar.bz2?download | 01:44 |
| imbrandon | 4.8.2 compile and works fine one 4 of my ubuntu machines ( 3 run dapper ) | 01:45 |
| imbrandon | one == on | 01:45 |
| imbrandon | all i386 though, no way to test other arch | 01:45 |
| imbrandon | http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=141258 | 01:46 |
| selinium | Hi all, is there a metapackage to install a packaging environment? | 01:51 |
| jpatrick | dpkg-dev | 01:52 |
| jpatrick | imbrandon: take 3 | 01:52 |
| imbrandon | hehe ( not funny really ) | 01:53 |
| jpatrick | :) sorry | 01:53 |
| imbrandon | i hope its not 7am there for you ;) | 01:53 |
| imbrandon | no problems for me, i just wanna see kbfx working ;) | 01:54 |
| imbrandon | i'm glad someone got it into dapper | 01:54 |
| jpatrick | you a dev? | 01:56 |
| imbrandon | trying to be, actualy it seems no one else is working on it but me | 01:56 |
| imbrandon | everyone else from the project is mia | 01:56 |
| imbrandon | but no i dont do it for a living but i've been working on kbfx for like 3 months now and ubuntu for about 6 | 01:57 |
| imbrandon | more used to cvs than diff though ;) | 01:58 |
| jpatrick | thing keeps failing......... | 01:58 |
| jpatrick | can't I package the cvs? :) | 01:58 |
| imbrandon | damm hmm can you build just the 8.2 tarbal ? | 01:59 |
| imbrandon | sure | 01:59 |
| imbrandon | cvs is what i'm working with, everything i have is commited to cvs | 01:59 |
| jpatrick | great | 01:59 |
| imbrandon | *thought you would never ask* | 02:00 |
| imbrandon | lol | 02:00 |
| jpatrick | :) | 02:00 |
| jpatrick | never worked with cvs | 02:02 |
| jpatrick | now it's downloading | 02:02 |
| imbrandon | ahh cvs ( or svn ) is NICE | 02:03 |
| imbrandon | very very helpfull to large projects with devs from all over | 02:03 |
| jpatrick | SVN I know | 02:03 |
| jpatrick | there's nothing in src/ | 02:03 |
| imbrandon | svn == newer cvs | 02:03 |
| lifeless | imbrandon: CVS is very _not_ nice:O | 02:03 |
| imbrandon | cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/kbfx co -P kbfx0490 | 02:04 |
| imbrandon | lifeless: hehe well its been nice to me but svn is good too | 02:04 |
| jpatrick | that's better :) | 02:05 |
| imbrandon | actualy i like svn better but cvs has been arround for ages | 02:05 |
| azeem | imbrandon: this is the bzr-fanboy chan | 02:05 |
| imbrandon | bzr? | 02:05 |
| azeem | http://bazaar-vcs.org/ | 02:06 |
| jpatrick | bazaar | 02:06 |
| imbrandon | ahhh never used it will have to check it out | 02:06 |
| zerokarmaleft | imbrandon: basically every checkout is treated as a branch, iirc | 02:06 |
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| imbrandon | brb time to make more coffee | 02:07 |
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| jpatrick | imbrandon: does it really need automake.1.6 ? | 02:25 |
| imbrandon | no just automake 1.6+ | 02:25 |
| imbrandon | i use 1.9 | 02:25 |
| jpatrick | doesn't work with 1.9 | 02:25 |
| imbrandon | ahhh yea i symlinked it, you can edit the makefile | 02:26 |
| jpatrick | ** YOU'RE USING automake (GNU automake) 1.9.6 | 02:26 |
| imbrandon | it shouldent make a diff | 02:26 |
| imbrandon | one sec | 02:26 |
| Tm_T | jpatrick: ? | 02:26 |
| jpatrick | Tm_T: what it says | 02:26 |
| Tm_T | 15:25 < jpatrick> doesn't work with 1.9 | 02:27 |
| jpatrick | automake1.9 | 02:27 |
| Tm_T | jpatrick: I haven't seen the error yet ;) | 02:27 |
| imbrandon | In order to make it work with another automake version (1.9.* in the example) you have to edit the cvs.sh under the admin folder... there look for the "AUTOMAKE_STRING" and modify the following section as follows: | 02:27 |
| imbrandon | automake*1.6.* | automake*1.7.* | automake*1.8.* | automake*1.9.* ) : ;; | 02:27 |
| jpatrick | Tm_T: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/657505 you happy now? | 02:28 |
| imbrandon | as long as its 1.6 or above | 02:28 |
| Tm_T | jpatrick: I'm always happy ;) | 02:28 |
| imbrandon | ;) | 02:29 |
| jpatrick | imbrandon: line 67? | 02:29 |
| imbrandon | should be | 02:29 |
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| Tm_T | jpatrick: haha, somewhat stupid your error is ;) | 02:30 |
| jpatrick | imbrandon: appears to work now | 02:42 |
| imbrandon | sweet | 02:44 |
| Tm_T | well done, kids ;) | 02:46 |
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| imbrandon | ok i'm off to sleep for a few hours | 02:52 |
| jpatrick | imbrandon: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/dapper-changes/2006-April/009310.html | 02:52 |
| imbrandon | i'll be back a little later | 02:52 |
| imbrandon | *waits* | 02:52 |
| imbrandon | woot | 02:52 |
| imbrandon | thanks jpatrick | 02:52 |
| jpatrick | thank you | 02:53 |
| imbrandon | np i'm going to update it from the respo then head to sleep for a few hours ;) i'll be back this eve | 02:53 |
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| truz24 | Were any fonts changed for firefox? Since one of the recent updates, my fonts look different... | 03:08 |
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| bddebian | Heya Gang | 03:27 |
| jpatrick | hey | 03:29 |
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| LaserJock | bddebian: around? | 05:40 |
| bddebian | Yo | 05:40 |
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| LaserJock | tyvis and saoimage are removed ;-) | 05:41 |
| bddebian | LaserJock: "great" thanks :-) | 05:41 |
| LaserJock | and I even got one added yesterday | 05:41 |
| bddebian | Nice | 05:42 |
| LaserJock | I have 2 more to go | 05:42 |
| bddebian | LaserJock: You have any time? | 05:42 |
| LaserJock | bddebian: sure, what's up? | 05:43 |
| bddebian | LaserJock: I uploaded ygraph but apparently it FTBFSs on all archs. I think it may just need a autoreconf or whatever but all my machines are tied up :-( | 05:44 |
| Yagisan | w00t. I broke bzip2 by rebuilding with a newer gcc | 05:45 |
| LaserJock | bddebian: ok, I'm not sure how to autoreconf stuff but I do have a machine available | 05:45 |
| bddebian | Yagisan: Nice :-) | 05:45 |
| LaserJock | Yagisan: does gunzip work? | 05:46 |
| Yagisan | bddebian: yeah. I get this cool error "/usr/bin/ld: bzip2: hidden symbol `__stack_chk_fail_local' in /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.1.0/../../../../lib32/libssp_nonshared.a(libssp_nonshared_la-ssp-local.o) is referenced by DSO" followed by | 05:46 |
| Yagisan | bddebian: "/usr/bin/ld: final link failed: Nonrepresentable section on output" | 05:47 |
| bddebian | w00t | 05:47 |
| Yagisan | LaserJock: havent tried it yet | 05:47 |
| LaserJock | bddebian: dang it, I went tried to reject the tyvis bug but it said it has already been rejected ;-) | 05:49 |
| bddebian | LaserJock: Sorry man :-) | 05:49 |
| bddebian | Just trying to "clean up" :_) | 05:49 |
| LaserJock | bddebian: how am I supposed to get any karma when you beat me to everything ;p | 05:49 |
| bddebian | You could actually "fix" something | 05:50 |
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| LaserJock | doh | 05:50 |
| bddebian | :-) | 05:50 |
| bddebian | j/k | 05:50 |
| bddebian | Sorry, I won't do that again | 05:50 |
| LaserJock | well, I think I'm pretty much done with the packaging guide for now, so I think I can help | 05:50 |
| Yagisan | LaserJock: well, if you could, I'd like to actually be able to print in dapper | 05:50 |
| Yagisan | LaserJock: I'm sure that would get you lots of karma | 05:51 |
| LaserJock | Yagisan: I'd love to but I wouldn't be able to test anything and I have 57 bugs to work on right now as it is ;-) | 05:51 |
| bddebian | LaserJock: 57 bugs? | 05:52 |
| Yagisan | LaserJock: that's ok. I think gs-esp is main's problem anyway | 05:52 |
| LaserJock | bddebian: https://launchpad.net/people/motuscience/+subscribedbugs | 05:53 |
| bddebian | Oh yeah, that list... | 05:53 |
| LaserJock | first I'm going to get 2 NEW packages while I still can and then I'll work on the bugs | 05:54 |
| sivang | anybody here for a quick review, and sponsered upload to universe of HUB? | 05:58 |
| hub | what is HUB? | 05:58 |
| sivang | http://muse.19inch.net/~sivan/HUB/ | 05:58 |
| sivang | hub: heh | 05:58 |
| hub | I thought that somebody was ringing me | 05:58 |
| hub | sivang: did you upload it to REVU? | 05:59 |
| sivang | hub: not yet, I was thinking of having someone review it ASAP :-) I need it in the repo as fast as can be, so people will start bombard me with bugspam :) | 06:01 |
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| hub | sivang: FF | 06:01 |
| hub | sivang: REVU is the good place to have it review | 06:01 |
| hub | upload it there a bug a MOTU to review it | 06:02 |
| hub | bug given that universe is in FF, I wouldn't hold my breath | 06:02 |
| sivang | I have approval from mdz to upload it to universe when it's presentable to users, which is now | 06:02 |
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| Yagisan | but if you do hold your breath, it may be a new Guinness World Record | 06:03 |
| sivang | although I'll ask him again just to make sure | 06:03 |
| sivang | Yagisan: AH AH AH | 06:03 |
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| sivang | hub: are you approved for uploading to universe? | 06:06 |
| hub | sivang: I'm a MOTU | 06:07 |
| hub | but we are on FF, so I won't upload new things | 06:07 |
| sivang | hub: cool, could you please upload it to REVU on my behalf? | 06:07 |
| hub | and any new package has to be approved by at least 3 MOTU | 06:07 |
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| hub | sivang: you can upload to REVU yourself | 06:08 |
| jpatrick | hub: err, two | 06:08 |
| hub | jpatrick: I thought is was 3 | 06:08 |
| Yagisan | hub: used to be | 06:09 |
| hub | okay | 06:09 |
| sivang | hub: okay | 06:10 |
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| sivang | hub: who is approving FF exceptions ? | 06:13 |
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| bddebian | w00t :-) | 06:22 |
| LaserJock | arggh, stupid fire alarm. Power went out at school | 06:30 |
| LaserJock | heh, ever lost all the data they were collecting but I have my iMac on a UPS ;-) | 06:31 |
| LaserJock | s/ever/everybody/ | 06:31 |
| bddebian | heh | 06:32 |
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| mitsuhiko | ogra: ping :( | 06:33 |
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| ogra | mitsuhiko, just bzr get the source from http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/bzr-archive/hwdb-client/ | 06:39 |
| ogra | mitsuhiko, there is no server side part, feel free to build one | 06:39 |
| mitsuhiko | jep | 06:39 |
| mitsuhiko | i will do :) | 06:39 |
| mitsuhiko | i would like to improve the client and write a server software for it :) | 06:40 |
| sivang | ogra: can you get dholbach and together arrange a review board for the first upload of HUB ?:) | 06:46 |
| ogra | sivang, but not today anymore ... i'm about to leave | 06:47 |
| LaserJock | bddebian: what is up with cernlib? | 06:47 |
| dholbach | sivang: same here | 06:47 |
| bddebian | LaserJock: kxterm and paw++ desktop files. I can't get them in the damn .deb files :-( | 06:47 |
| LaserJock | bddebian: k | 06:48 |
| sivang | ogra, dholbach : okay, can we make it a date for tomorrow? :) | 06:48 |
| dholbach | sivang: send me a mail and i'll look at it | 06:49 |
| sivang | dholbach: you're my hero!! | 06:49 |
| dholbach | (a mail with the url and stuff) | 06:49 |
| sivang | dholbach: sure, will do it now | 06:49 |
| dholbach | thanks | 06:49 |
| sivang | dholbach: thank you! | 06:49 |
| sivang | dholbach: sent | 06:55 |
| sivang | dholbach: still missing icons for the menu, but I am working on it | 06:55 |
| sivang | dholbach: (the deskop/administration menu from the panel, that is) | 06:56 |
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| ivoks | hi | 08:15 |
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| ivoks | um... i'm fixing one bug in bacula... | 08:15 |
| Yagisan | G'day ivoks | 08:15 |
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| ivoks | i noticed it builds against libmysqlclient14, but works on mysql-5 | 08:15 |
| ivoks | should i try building it againt 15off? | 08:15 |
| Yagisan | ivoks: dumb question, either of those mysql in main ? | 08:16 |
| ivoks | mysql is irrelevant | 08:16 |
| ivoks | libmysqlclient is what i'm asking about | 08:16 |
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| Yagisan | ivoks: if it was me, I'd want to build agains the one that gets better security support | 08:17 |
| ivoks | Yagisan: yeah, but i'll have to see if it builds at all | 08:17 |
| Yagisan | ivoks: give it a try | 08:18 |
| ivoks | yeah... will do | 08:19 |
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| Yagisan | ivoks: what's the worst that could happen ? | 08:20 |
| ivoks | worst? broken bacula in dapper :) | 08:21 |
| ivoks | but i'll make sure that doesn't happen :) | 08:22 |
| Yagisan | ivoks: actually I was thinking FTBFS. I've been getting a few of those today while I scratch my particular itch | 08:23 |
| ivoks | well, it's FTBS with libmysqlclient14 | 08:24 |
| ivoks | and that makes me think :) | 08:24 |
| Yagisan | ivoks: I'd try 15 then | 08:25 |
| ivoks | allready running | 08:25 |
| ivoks | damn... same thing | 08:25 |
| ivoks | urgh... this will be a long night | 08:25 |
| Yagisan | w00t. gzip works too | 08:25 |
| ivoks | i have to grab something to eat :/ | 08:28 |
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| tman | hi | 08:29 |
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| cbx33 | hi all | 08:34 |
| cbx33 | how many versions of the kill binary are there? | 08:34 |
| bddebian | Heya cbx33 | 08:35 |
| tman | hi, I've uploaded a package 10 hours ago, i don't see it on revu.tauware.de is this normal | 08:35 |
| tman | did I forget something (like getting my key signed :s ) | 08:35 |
| cbx33 | hi bddebian | 08:35 |
| bddebian | Uhm, that would do it :-) | 08:35 |
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| cbx33 | i have a source package that i don't think matches the binary package | 08:36 |
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| cbx33 | anyway to confirm this? | 08:38 |
| Yagisan | bddebian: tired of having your system "just work", want all the excitement of possible breakage, want endless hours of fun chasing down obscure bugs ? I have just the thing for you to test :) | 08:39 |
| bddebian | Uh oh | 08:39 |
| bddebian | cbx33: ?? | 08:39 |
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| tman | if the key is not signed, can a package be uploaded, or is it automatically rejected? | 08:40 |
| cbx33 | bddebian, i donloaded a source package | 08:40 |
| cbx33 | did a debuild | 08:40 |
| cbx33 | and one of the binaries produced | 08:41 |
| cbx33 | differed from the apt-get install i did earlier | 08:41 |
| Yagisan | bddebian: don't worry, it's unlikely you will need to reinstall (I hope) | 08:41 |
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| Yagisan | bddebian: you'd like a more secure system, wouldn't you ? | 08:43 |
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| cbx33 | anyone got any clue about the problem i posed? | 08:55 |
| cbx33 | sorry for keeping on with this one guys | 08:55 |
| azeem | cbx33: can you rephrase it? | 08:57 |
| azeem | how different? | 08:57 |
| cbx33 | the binaries are different sizes | 08:57 |
| azeem | how much? | 08:58 |
| cbx33 | and the usage message is very different | 08:58 |
| cbx33 | about 500 bytes | 08:58 |
| cbx33 | or so | 08:58 |
| azeem | the usage message? | 08:58 |
| bddebian | Yagisan: Sorry, man work crap.. :-( | 08:58 |
| cbx33 | yeh | 08:58 |
| cbx33 | how to use the binary | 08:58 |
| cbx33 | since my bug is to do with that | 08:58 |
| cbx33 | a missing or over documented option | 08:58 |
| ivoks | blah... bacula is seriously FTBS | 08:58 |
| bddebian | sudo dpkg -i <whatever>.deb :) | 08:58 |
| ivoks | we might need a new version :/ | 08:59 |
| ivoks | oh, there is no new ver in debian :/ | 08:59 |
| cbx33 | how many packages provide the kill binary?? | 09:00 |
| Yagisan | ivoks: why FTBFS ? | 09:00 |
| bddebian | cbx33: Try packages.debian.org or packages.ubuntu.org and look at file contained in packages.. | 09:01 |
| ivoks | bad packaging | 09:01 |
| ivoks | interesting | 09:01 |
| ivoks | new bacula 1.38 is out since 2006-01-19 | 09:01 |
| ivoks | and we still have old one | 09:01 |
| ivoks | and there are dramatic changes | 09:01 |
| ivoks | Yagisan: strip: 'src/stored/bscan': No such file :) | 09:02 |
| ivoks | it can be fixed | 09:02 |
| ivoks | i'll contact debian maintaner to see if he has plans of uploading new version | 09:02 |
| ivoks | and ask for UVF exception for it | 09:02 |
| Yagisan | ugh. zlib uses dbs. How am I supposed to make a patch for this ? | 09:03 |
| ivoks | omg! | 09:04 |
| ivoks | bacula isn't maintained for a year in debian | 09:05 |
| ivoks | urghhhhh | 09:05 |
| Yagisan | ivoks: congrats. You are the new maintainer! (actually, as bacula is very useful, someone should really give it some love) | 09:06 |
| ivoks | yeah, i use it on lots of locations | 09:06 |
| ivoks | i'll do it | 09:06 |
| ivoks | urgh... i hope i know what i'm doing :) | 09:07 |
| ivoks | this isn't easy slice of software :/ | 09:07 |
| tman | hi , after uploading a package, I don't see it in http://revu.tauware.de/ , is this normal? | 09:10 |
| Yagisan | tman: takes 5-10 minutes usually | 09:10 |
| tman | arf, I submitted the package few hours ago, | 09:13 |
| tman | but at the time, i didn't make my key signed, would it be a reason? | 09:13 |
| tman | is it required to have a key signed to upload to revu | 09:14 |
| bddebian | yes | 09:15 |
| Yagisan | tman: I don't think so. But it only takes source only uploads | 09:15 |
| bddebian | ivoks: But it's still in Debian? | 09:15 |
| Yagisan | bddebian: probably QA maintainer | 09:15 |
| bddebian | Ah | 09:16 |
| bddebian | ivoks: What's the build error? | 09:16 |
| tman | Yagisan: so, if i created a .deb package, and want to add it to revu, I just need to dput -P *_source.changes | 09:18 |
| tman | and then it should be uploaded, right? how to I follow evolution of the package ? | 09:18 |
| bddebian | tman: You want to do a dpkg-buildpackage or debuild -S, then yes, dput revu <pkg>.changes | 09:18 |
| ivoks | bddebian: | 09:19 |
| ivoks | mv: cannot stat `src/stored/bscan': No such file or directory | 09:19 |
| ivoks | mv: cannot stat `src/stored/bcopy': No such file or directory | 09:19 |
| ivoks | bddebian: anyway, i think i can fix it | 09:19 |
| ivoks | bddebian: but we have to include new version ASAP | 09:19 |
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| ivoks | it has lots of bugs fixed and important fatures | 09:19 |
| bddebian | ivoks: Cool. There's a new upstream version? | 09:20 |
| ivoks | even configuration isn't the same any more | 09:20 |
| ivoks | bddebian: yeah, for a 7-8 months allready :) | 09:20 |
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| Yagisan | anyone know if dbs-edit-patch is busted ? | 09:22 |
| tman | bddebian: yep, this is what i did | 09:26 |
| tman | I don't really get on to retrieve password from revu.tauware.de | 09:27 |
| tman | after doing as it is said on the web page for recovering password, I dont get anything displayed :s | 09:27 |
| tman | doing gpg -d <<<EOT ....... | 09:28 |
| bddebian | ivoks: What a surprise.. :_) | 09:29 |
| bddebian | Yagisan: dbs-edit-patch? | 09:29 |
| ivoks | bddebian: :) check out: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=337250 | 09:29 |
| Ubugtu | Debian bug 337250 in bacula "Subject: bacula: FTBFS: 'src/stored/bscan': No such file" [Serious,Open] | 09:29 |
| ivoks | guy is alive | 09:29 |
| bddebian | ivoks: Yeah, well barely apparently :-) | 09:31 |
| Yagisan | bddebian: from the dbs patch system | 09:32 |
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| ivoks | look what guy did in building rules | 09:32 |
| ivoks | 2>&1 >/dev/null on make | 09:32 |
| ivoks | what an... uh! | 09:32 |
| bddebian | I saw that in the bug report. WTF is that? | 09:32 |
| ivoks | how can i debug... | 09:32 |
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| ivoks | he's redirecting errors in /dev/null | 09:32 |
| ivoks | so you can't find them :) | 09:33 |
| Amaranth | grr | 09:33 |
| tman | could anyone help me out with the recovering from revu.tauware.de | 09:35 |
| tman | pls, I can seem to make the gpg -d thingy to work :s | 09:36 |
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| ivoks | :) | 09:41 |
| Yagisan | ivoks: all I want to do is a f*cking 1 line change to a makefile, and the damm thing won't let me | 09:42 |
| bddebian | tman: Are you getting the gpg message when you hit recover? | 09:42 |
| tman | yep | 09:42 |
| tman | bddebian: but when decrypting, entering my keypass, i don't seem to get anything | 09:43 |
| bddebian | The output is ugly. Alot of times the password just shows up right next to the cursor prompt so it's hard to see it :-) | 09:43 |
| ivoks | Yagisan: does it have to be dbs? | 09:43 |
| tman | I have to paste from ----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE to END PGP MESSAGE----- aint I? | 09:43 |
| bddebian | Yes | 09:44 |
| ivoks | with those lines | 09:44 |
| Yagisan | ivoks: yes. that is what zlib uses. I just want to delete one small section that says CC=cc | 09:44 |
| ivoks | lol | 09:44 |
| ivoks | but why, we have cc | 09:44 |
| tman | bddebian: I just get None :( | 09:45 |
| tman | and it is not my pass :s | 09:45 |
| ivoks | eh! it builds! woahahahahahaha | 09:46 |
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| bddebian | ivoks: Rock on man | 09:46 |
| ivoks | but we should really consider new bacula for dapper | 09:47 |
| ivoks | this one is sooooo outdated | 09:47 |
| bddebian | ivoks: You going to maintain it? ;-) | 09:47 |
| ivoks | nope... it looks like DD will :) | 09:47 |
| Yagisan | ivoks: because, it is overriding the gcc I'm specifying. And as the old gcc does not support the flag I'm using, it craps out on build. | 09:47 |
| tman | bddebian: after pasting the text, it tells me You need a passphrase to unlock the secret key for | 09:47 |
| ivoks | Yagisan: I tought that could be a problem | 09:47 |
| tman | I do enter it correct then I get garbage like | 09:48 |
| tman | user: "blalbal blla " | 09:48 |
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| tman | and then tells me stories about key ID, my key username ... | 09:49 |
| tman | but no pass aroud :s | 09:49 |
| tman | is there something I'm missing? | 09:50 |
| bddebian | tman: Yes, do you enter your gpg passphrase? | 09:50 |
| tman | yep | 09:50 |
| tman | bddebian: and it is right, as it don't through up error | 09:50 |
| bddebian | Do you get something like user: "First Last <foo@bar.com>" | 09:54 |
| bddebian | Then gpg: Encrypted with .... | 09:54 |
| bddebian | tman: ^ ?? | 09:58 |
| tman | sorry bddebian | 10:05 |
| tman | bddebian: yes, I do get "first last <email>" | 10:06 |
| tman | gpg: encrypted with ... | 10:06 |
| tman | and then I get a for char word which is not my pass :s, and this is not my | 10:08 |
| bddebian | tman: It should be your password. If not something else is broken | 10:10 |
| tman | login is email address isn't it | 10:11 |
| bddebian | yes | 10:12 |
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| tman | bddebian: the ubuntu dev guide says that once you uploaded a package, you are automatically added to revu | 10:12 |
| tman | I'm starting to onder if I'm added to it :s | 10:13 |
| Yagisan | tman: ah, have you ever requested access to revu ? | 10:14 |
| tman | if I want to reupload the package, I get | 10:14 |
| tman | Upload package to host revu | 10:14 |
| tman | Already uploaded to revu.tauware.de | 10:14 |
| tman | Yagisan: nope | 10:14 |
| Yagisan | tman: you may not be on the list of authorised uploaders then | 10:15 |
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| tman | arf | 10:15 |
| tman | but doing a dput *_source.changes tells me | 10:15 |
| tman | that it is already uploaded, how can I know the process of the package | 10:16 |
| Yagisan | tman: it will take the upload, but it will need to be manually processed by an admin | 10:16 |
| tman | moreover, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/REVU?action=show&redirect=REVU says: | 10:16 |
| Yagisan | tman: iirc siretart and ajmitch are admins | 10:16 |
| tman | After your first upload, you will be automatically registered to the database and assigned a random password. | 10:16 |
| tman | Use the email address you used in the changelog file of your upload as login and press the | 10:16 |
| tman | 'recover password' link, so as to receive your password by email. | 10:17 |
| tman | never received any emails :s | 10:17 |
| tman | Yagisan: do you reckon I should pm them ? | 10:17 |
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| tman | I basically, will like to know where the packages processing is at :) | 10:18 |
| Yagisan | tman: well, siretart is on holidays, and ajmitch should still be in bed (actually, so should I) | 10:19 |
| bddebian | I think I'm an admin but I can't remember my damn password :-( | 10:19 |
| tman | is it then possible to check the processing of a package? | 10:21 |
| tman | quch as "in process", "to be processed" .... | 10:22 |
| Yagisan | tman: what is your package name ? | 10:23 |
| ajmitch | Yagisan: I am in bed :) | 10:24 |
| ajmitch | laptops are great | 10:24 |
| Yagisan | ajmitch: morning ! I've been making progress with my SSP work tonight/lastnight | 10:24 |
| ajmitch | morning Yagisan :) | 10:25 |
| ajmitch | great! | 10:25 |
| tseng | Yagisan: yay | 10:25 |
| Yagisan | just dbs is mocking me why I try to build zlib with SSP | 10:25 |
| Yagisan | s/shy/when | 10:25 |
| ajmitch | tman: is your gpg key in the uploaders' keyring for REVU? | 10:26 |
| ajmitch | tman: also, which package did you try & upload? | 10:26 |
| Yagisan | tseng: still uses the "ugly" libssp0-dev addition to build-deps though | 10:28 |
| tman | Yagisan: subtitleeditor | 10:28 |
| Yagisan | tman: rejected | 10:29 |
| tseng | i find it hard to believe he is in the keyring as ive never seen him before | 10:29 |
| tman | ajmitch: raphink did add it | 10:29 |
| tseng | oh, revu | 10:29 |
| tman | Yagisan: arf, who do we know the reason ... | 10:29 |
| Yagisan | tman: I don't know. I just ftpped into the incoming queue and checked rejected, and there it was. Did you sign the .changes file ? | 10:31 |
| tman | i guess | 10:31 |
| ajmitch | tman: I moved it back & it looks to have been accepted this time | 10:32 |
| ajmitch | not sure why it wouldn't go through the first time :) | 10:32 |
| bddebian | Heya ajmitch | 10:32 |
| tman | i did run dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot | 10:32 |
| ajmitch | hello bddebian | 10:33 |
| tman | and then debuild -S -sa | 10:33 |
| tseng | why do both | 10:33 |
| bddebian | Aye | 10:33 |
| tman | then dput *_source.change | 10:33 |
| tman | tseng: cause the first time I had no source.change | 10:34 |
| tman | ajmitch: thks, I see it in revu.tauware.de | 10:35 |
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| tman | ajmitch: bddebian cool, I finnally retrieved my password :) | 10:38 |
| bddebian | excellent, what was it? | 10:38 |
| bddebian | the problem, not the password :-) | 10:38 |
| tman | bddebian: caus my upload got rejected in the first place | 10:39 |
| bddebian | Ahh | 10:39 |
| tman | ajmitch: moved it back and the package was accepted !?! | 10:39 |
| tman | therefore I was able to retrieve my password :) | 10:40 |
| Yagisan | ajmitch: feel like testing out some SSP enabled applications ? | 10:42 |
| bddebian | Damnit, what is the libglu1 thing now? | 10:43 |
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| tman | bddebian: anf now, will I be informed of any comments ... by mail or should I check by time? | 10:49 |
| bddebian | tman: I believe they have added e-mail notifications but don't quote me on that :-) | 10:50 |
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| cyberserver | Hi people. I tought I should tell this to someone, altough I'm not sure if it's a bug or not: I'm doing a net install of dapper (I've booted of a netinstall mini-cd) and, when installing/configuring packages dapper asked me what was my braille reader?!? | 10:50 |
| tman | bddebian: okie dokie, will check by time then ;) | 10:51 |
| tman | thnks for all :) | 10:51 |
| bddebian | NP | 10:51 |
| cyberserver | I'm pretty sure I havent chosen any option for sight-disabled, and its kind of strange of getting 1 package out of some 600 that were installed right now that asked question, while no other did | 10:53 |
| LaserJock | cyberserver: I got that message in my dist-upgrade today | 10:58 |
| Yagisan | tseng: I'm impressed with just how many apps FTBFS with ssp enabled | 11:07 |
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| bddebian | See you in a bit folks | 11:25 |
| tseng | Yagisan: have you talked to anyone from gentoo | 11:26 |
| Yagisan | tseng: nope. I only had some time tonight to do some work, so I randomly picked 22 packages from all over dapper. So far 3 fails, 2 pass, and 17 to go | 11:29 |
| Yagisan | tseng: It may well be my own relative inexperience at packaging that may be the cause of the failures, | 11:30 |
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| tseng | Yagisan: do you have logs for the failures | 11:35 |
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| Yagisan | tseng: I can make pbuilder generate them | 11:40 |
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| Yagisan | tseng: where would you like the logs ? | 11:49 |
| tseng | anywhere | 11:50 |
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| mdke | there is a diff on https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gxine/+bug/39507 if someone fancies the easiest and fastest bug close ever. (is it still hug day?) | 11:52 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 39507 in gxine "HIG compliant menu entry" [Normal,Unconfirmed] | 11:53 |
| Yagisan | tseng: they are in here http://eyagi.bpa.nu/~jamie/uf/ | 11:53 |
| Yagisan | tseng: zlib should be because minizip sets it's own CC, and dbs-edit-patch failed to work as advertised | 11:54 |
| tseng | yeah | 11:54 |
| Yagisan | tseng: bzip2, I have no idea, and zip appears to not link | 11:54 |
| tseng | suck | 11:54 |
| tseng | so | 11:54 |
| tseng | alot of this is fucked up makefiles | 11:55 |
| Yagisan | tseng: basically, yes | 11:55 |
| tseng | which gentoo avoids | 11:55 |
| Yagisan | tseng: eg coreutils and gzip were good | 11:55 |
| tseng | adamantix goes for the hack and slash technique | 11:55 |
| tseng | you might steal from them | 11:55 |
| Yagisan | tseng: are they still at woody ? | 11:55 |
| tseng | hm | 11:55 |
| tseng | are they that behind? | 11:55 |
| Yagisan | tseng: when I last checked, yeah | 11:56 |
| tseng | wow | 11:56 |
| tseng | useless | 11:56 |
| Yagisan | tseng: they chose to stick with 2.4.x kernels, and yeah, they have a mention of backporting from sarge! | 11:58 |
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| tseng | i havent worked on Hardened for over a year | 12:01 |
| tseng | anything i say is dated | 12:01 |
| Yagisan | tseng: and yet, probably more up to date then many of the sites I have to chose from | 12:03 |
| tseng | haha. | 12:03 |
| tseng | could be | 12:03 |
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