=== xopher_ [n=xopher@a84-230-124-206.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:17] dang it, how do you get ^M to turn into a newline === womble [n=mpalmer@vg28.vodafone.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:21] interactively, or? === dewd_ [n=dewd@201.29.107.23] has joined #ubuntu-motu === elfantiel [n=freenode@unaffiliated/elfantiel] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lifeless_ [n=robertc@dsl-43.1.240.220.rns01-kent-syd.dsl.comindico.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tritium [n=tritium@ubuntu/member/tritium] has joined #ubuntu-motu === womble [n=mpalmer@vg28.vodafone.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Sergi0 [n=serge@ip227-28-166-62.adsl.versatel.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === JustinLynn [n=JustinLy@wlbg-00-0014.dsl.iowatelecom.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:15] slomo> I've been testing your package and so far it's been great I've built several applications and banshee plugins with it. Absolutely no complaints or apparent bugs :) === bpuccio [n=brian@ool-457a9c38.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Arrogance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-209-217-99-43.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === infinito [n=infinito@VPNPOOL03-0005.UNI-MUENSTER.DE] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:47] 'night === Se7h [n=MUAHAHAH@81.193.88.206] has joined #ubuntu-motu === womble [n=mpalmer@106.135.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hub [n=hub@toronto-hs-216-138-231-194.s-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-motu === FunnyLookinHat [n=FunnyLoo@71.57.11.218] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo_ [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === truz24 [n=truz24@12-203-70-118.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:14] Heya gang [03:15] good day sir [03:15] Heya ajmitch === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:31] hi bddebian and ajmitch [03:32] Heya LaserJock [03:33] bddebian: was saoimage FTBS? [03:35] Yep [03:35] And gone from Debian [03:35] k [03:36] hello LaserJock === Arr0gance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-209-217-79-35.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ealden [n=ealden@203.76.212.70] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.36] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kyral [n=kyral@HyperDream.hamlin.clarkson.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === No1Viking [n=Viking@h-83-140-104-3.ip.cust.port80.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:53] bddebian: ok, I filed bugs for tyvis and saoimage === lakin [n=lakin@S01060013101832ce.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === kyral_ [n=kyral@HyperDream.hamlin.clarkson.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:01] LaserJock_away: Rock on d00d [04:02] OK, damnit, how can adding a desktop file and a couple dh_install commands screw up dh_shlibdeps? === bhuvan [n=bhuvan@ubuntu/member/bhuvan] has joined #ubuntu-motu === seth [n=seth@ubuntu/member/seth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jaldhar [n=jaldhar@c-68-38-202-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra_ibook [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:46] bddebian: does it really do cp /usr/lib/dx/bin/dx [..] ? [04:47] The rules file is a mess [04:47] I'm rebuilding currently so I'll let you know :-) [04:47] bddebian: ok. That source file looks suspiciously absolute and not relative to the root of the extracted source. [04:48] crimsun: ? [04:48] Damn cernlib is hideous too [04:48] if debian/rules actually executes a cp /some/absolute/path instead of cp $(pwd)/relative/path, ... [04:48] Ahh [05:27] crimsun: Still around? [05:28] bddebian: you caught me right before I suspended to get groceries [05:28] Ah, go ahead [05:28] k, back in a bit. [05:28] ok === Kyral [n=Chris@ubuntu/member/kyral] has joined #ubuntu-motu === truz24 [n=truz24@12-203-70-118.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dewd_ [n=dewd@201.29.107.23] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kyral [n=kyral@ubuntu/member/kyral] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu === caravena [n=caravena@200.72.102.228] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra_ibook [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Se7h [n=MUAHAHAH@bl4-88-206.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lifeless [n=robertc@dsl-43.1.240.220.rns01-kent-syd.dsl.comindico.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kyral [n=kyral@ubuntu/member/kyral] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:34] Gnight folks [06:34] 'night === Kyral_ [n=kyral@ubuntu/member/kyral] has joined #ubuntu-motu === seth [n=seth@ubuntu/member/seth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === poningru [n=poningru@n128-227-48-21.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu === poningru_ [n=poningru@n128-227-50-237.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === poningru [n=poningru@n128-227-50-237.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bhuvan_ [n=bhuvan@vpn2.maa.collab.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/dholbach] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:29] HAPPY HUG DAY! [07:31] hi dholbach [07:32] hey Hobbsee [07:33] hug day already hey? [07:33] i thought it would be on my saturday... [07:34] nah... when we realized friday would be "easter" and everybody would be busy having fun with their family, we moved to thursday :) [07:34] ah...that's a point... [07:35] yeah :) [07:35] so,,, happy hug day! :) [07:36] hehe === Hobbsee has found a bug with a newer version of kpowersave that i'm testing out - does that count? === poningru [n=poningru@n128-227-50-237.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:41] uhhhh, the one that got motu-uvf approval? [07:42] dunno, i didnt know it was going for UVF approval === Hobbsee will have to go look [07:44] 0.5.2 -> 0.6.0 [07:46] yeah, 0.6.0 - there you go... [07:48] Hobbsee: can you follow up on the bug report (bug 39221)? (if it's 'just a bug' we have to report it upstream immediately - if it makes the world unhappy, we have to think twice about updating) [07:48] Malone bug 39221 in kpowersave "UVF exception 0.5.2 -> 0.6.0" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/39221 [07:50] dholbach: can i follow it up? how do you mean? [07:51] Hobbsee: just write about the problem you see with the new version [07:51] dholbach: package was fine with the old kernel, i'll have to test agian with the new one... [07:51] ah ok [07:51] but i'll check on it, yeah [07:52] because you said, you found a bug === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:52] yeah, i did. not sure yet if that's related to acpi or kpowersave though === Hobbsee vanishes into thin air, to test... [07:52] Hobbsee: ah ok [07:58] hi all [07:58] hey Unfrgiven! happy hug day! === poningru [n=poningru@n128-227-50-237.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:04] oh yeah completely forgot about that! === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:05] interesting... [08:05] does the UVF apply to universe as well?? [08:06] Unfrgiven: yes [08:06] Hobbsee: bummer [08:06] heh [08:06] you can write an exception, if you like... [08:07] i might have to raise an exception. im packaging madwifi-ng drivers atm [08:07] almost done. [08:09] arent the new nvidia drivers just great? suspend rocks! === Hobbsee grabs the latest version of ndiswrapper === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=lure@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu === root__ [n=root@CPE-144-136-125-48.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lucas [n=lucas@ubuntu/member/lucas] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:21] oh shit... === Hobbsee is now getting an error 15 from grub, which stops her system from booting! [08:23] dunno exactly what i did, but it clearly wasnt good! === Hobbsee [n=root@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee cries. loudly. === root__ [n=root@CPE-144-136-125-48.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === root__ is now known as Hobbsee [08:30] Hobbsee: oh... how did that happen? [08:30] Hobbsee: did you install something new? did you fiddle with the grub conf files? [08:31] Hobbsee: could it be a hardware problem? [08:31] ah... [08:31] well i did a remove ndiswrapper* [08:31] and then rebooted eventually g [08:31] getting a grub error 15 [08:31] Hobbsee: that shouldn't cause an error. [08:31] it shouldnt, no [08:32] can someone tell me what a grub error 15 is please, and how i fix it? [08:32] Hobbsee: ive just googled it. === carthik [n=carthik@unaffiliated/carthik] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:32] i can only have one window open at a time, so i'm kinda helpless [08:32] apparently it means that grub can't find your kernel [08:32] Unfrgiven: thank's very much [08:32] yeah, i'd gotten that much...it cant find any of them... === Hobbsee is booted into a recovery thingo, of the latest kernel [08:33] Hobbsee: wait, so you can boot into ur recovery kernel but not your normal one? [08:33] Unfrgiven: yes [08:33] and then can do startx, which is where i am now [08:34] yes, as root (eek!) [08:34] Hobbsee: aight no problems. reboot and edit the recovery line. remove the parameter that says single [08:34] that should get you into your normal boot [08:35] remove the parameter that says single? [08:35] Hobbsee: there are other reports with error 15 on boot in forums [08:35] Lure: i'll bet there are - but i cant get to any :P [08:35] yeah thats the one [08:36] i cant STFW if i can only have one window open at a time hehe! [08:36] Hobbsee: that will boot you into your mornal environment [08:36] and then you can debug the problem once you are in your normal env === Hobbsee goes to look in /boot/grub/menu.lst [08:37] can you post menu.lstr [08:37] (pastebin) [08:37] Lure: no, i dont have a script to pastebin [08:37] yes, it's frustrating - it's frustrating here too [08:38] in the recovery thingie, you could try to run update-grub [08:38] Hobbsee: dont remove the single parameter in your grub/menu.lst [08:38] and see what happens [08:38] Hobbsee: what is the difference between the recovery kernel conf and your normal kernel conf in grub/menu.lst? [08:38] Unfrgiven: i thought you just said to remove it [08:39] ah, it's got "quiet splash" in the normal one or something... [08:40] Hobbsee: i mean that you should remove it when you are booting. not change the files [08:40] dholbach: that seemed to do something, i'll see... [08:40] Hobbsee: grub allows you to edit your boot parameters when you are booting [08:40] Unfrgiven: ah ok, it reverted the changes anyway with update-grub [08:40] do you have /Boot on a separate partition that is full? [08:40] Hobbsee: press "e" when grub shows you the menu [08:40] Unfrgiven: true...i was being lazy, still signed in here [08:40] yeah, i know where you mean [08:40] dholbach: no, /boot's not on a separate partition [08:41] Hobbsee: hehe typical software developer, lazy :P === Hobbsee suspects that in removing some ndiswrapper stuff, she removed some kernel stuff too [08:41] anyway, back in a min, will try those bits... [08:41] Hobbsee: so you are saying that the recovery image and normal image are the same? [08:42] Hobbsee: because if they are using the same image then i cant see how the recovery is working but normal isnt [08:42] Unfrgiven: recovery has single in the parameters, normal has quiet, splash in the parameters [08:42] Hobbsee: is the kernel image the same for both? [08:42] i reverted the changes on the menu.lst when i ran update-grub [08:42] Unfrgiven: yes, everythign else is the same [08:42] back in a min... [08:42] hmmm...how to get out... [08:42] oh yes... === Hobbsee [n=root@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has left #ubuntu-motu ["wish] === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:46] Hobbsee: yay! [08:46] dholbach: Unfrgiven ok...well... [08:46] that was interesting... [08:47] update grub didnt work, removing the single line manually did [08:47] and i can have more than one window open at a time now - yay! === dholbach hugs Hobbsee === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:49] Hobbsee: removing the single is not the right long term solution [08:49] okay... === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:05] this gets weirder and weirder... [09:08] im off all... cya [09:11] dholbach: any idea what the savedefault line does in the kernel? [09:11] er, menu.list? [09:13] man grub didnt show much... [09:14] Hobbsee: it remebers last selected option that was booted and offers it as default [09:14] only the kernels with savedefault qualify [09:15] but you also need to change default to "saved" or simlar instead of explicit number (to use it) [09:15] Lure: interesting. so...that would be giving an error 15 how? [09:15] well, how does one change it? [09:15] maybe... not sure that this could have such big side effect, but I have not used it [09:15] presumably the last setting got corrupted somehow, or something? [09:16] but I think this is onlt proposed default (instead of hardcoded item list number) [09:16] you may want to comment out savedefault in the problematic kernel and see if it helps [09:16] can you post your menu.lst to pastebin? [09:17] Lure: it's already there, i'll find the link... [09:17] Lure: http://pastebin.com/657122 [09:17] i have a new thing there, a copy of the first one, identical to the first one, - the save default line, and it works perfectly... [09:19] interesting... maybe you should file the bug... [09:19] Lure: under what? [09:19] grub [09:19] ahhh... [09:21] Hobbsee: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=151222&page=6&highlight=kpowersave [09:21] reinstalling grub helped for people... - maybe powersave is doing something with grub... === Hobbsee suspects this is the case [09:22] it's definetly something to do with savedefault though... [09:23] heh, you beat me to it Lure! [09:24] ;-) === cbx33 [n=pete@84-45-238-195.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:24] hey all [09:24] Hobbsee: it may be powersave - see /etc/powersave/sleep and try changing BOOT_LOADER="OTHER" [09:25] it may be that powersave does something to grub before suspend (that does not work on Ubuntu) [09:25] will look into powersave code what this option does === Lure has to run - more time in 8 hours or so... [09:27] okay, thanks anyway [09:30] i have a package here, where the source and binary packages seem to differ [09:30] oh [09:30] hmmmm === TMM [n=hp@ip5650d1ab.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:33] how do apply all dpatches to the current source [09:49] hmmm [09:49] dpatch apply-all === Hobbsee waves again to dholbach [09:50] oh yes, bug report...yes... [09:50] thankyou [09:50] Hobbsee: take your time... :) [09:50] hehe [09:50] dholbach: you fix grub by any chance? [09:51] Hobbsee: no... I'm not mad enough - sorry [09:51] hehe! [09:51] got another quickie [09:51] say I've just done an apt-get source [09:51] and i want to apply all changes to the source and build it to test it [09:51] $%^&%&^* [09:52] why oh why must launchpad search be borked again??? [09:52] cbx33: what do you want to do exactly? [09:52] well i'm working on an issue, but when i build the package from the source dir to ompare against my installed versions they behave differently [09:52] I've just applied all the patches and it's still doing the same [09:52] what am i doing wrong :p === Natja [n=Natja@122-219.240.81.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:53] I still don't understand, sorry [09:53] ok....I've apt-get installed a package [09:53] you build a package and apply its patches against it and you build it and it does the same [09:53] ran the binary with no options and I get one help message [09:53] that's expected, no? [09:54] if i then download the source...apply all patches [09:54] and build that source [09:54] and run it with no options [09:54] i get a diferent message [09:55] does that make sense? or am i going mad? [09:55] if you run debuild to build the package, you don'T have to manually apply patches [09:55] ok [09:55] that's done automatically === doko_ [n=doko@dslb-088-073-091-066.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:55] ok [09:55] trying now [09:56] so after rebuilding a package, it's behaving differently - is that what you're trying? [09:56] yes [09:56] and I've made no changes [09:57] are the changes desirable? :) [09:57] no [09:57] :p [09:57] i think it must be some kind of envrionment setting...or something [09:57] well then investigate what in the build-dependency chain changed :) [09:57] indeed i shall [09:57] grr this one is driving me nuts === cbx33 notes that it'd proably take you guys 2 secs to figure it out :p [09:59] ogra_ibook: around? [09:59] they two binaries are definitely different [09:59] hi all btw [09:59] hi mitsuhiko [10:00] ok they are different [10:00] the binary pacakge doesn't seem to have been created from the current source pacakge === Gervystar [n=gervysta@217-133-96-194.b2b.tiscali.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === herzi [n=herzi@c184132.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === iceman [n=iceman@physInfo-mac26.ulb.ac.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jouni__m [n=jouni@laku34.adsl.netsonic.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu === toretore [n=tore@225.84-48-85.nextgentel.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === imbrandon [n=brandon@CPE-72-135-8-5.kc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:03] i got a few questions if anyone is awake ... [11:03] imbrandon: people are usually awake. whether they know the answers is a different question [11:05] heh ok here go's ( long story shory i'm not a linux newb but a newb to submitting stuff to MOTU ) and I have a bug fix for https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kbfx/+bug/38226 and would like to also know about maintaing it in the future , what i need to go about doing to submit it etc [11:05] Malone bug 38226 in kbfx "kbfx control panel crashes" [Normal,Confirmed] [11:06] jpatrick currently maintains it. you can certainly submit the patch... [11:07] ahh nice ok, waseent sure how to find the maintainer or if there was one etc [11:07] use the "add attachment" link on the launchpad [11:07] maintainer is on the left of that page, just over half way down [11:07] Maintainer: Jonathan Patrick Davies [11:07] imbrandon: see https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-motu/2006-February/000545.html for more info [11:08] ahhh ok , i see now, like i said kinda newb ;) i'm a long time linux user and programer but new to ubuntu ( only 6 or so months ) but glad there are easy ways to contribute ;) [11:08] if the patch works, it'd be great to have it === Hobbsee messages jpatrick [11:08] ;) tell him it will be on the way shortly , just need to look it over one last time etc ;) [11:09] imbrandon: he's coming === jpatrick [n=patrick@ubuntu/member/jpatrick] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:09] ahh nice lol that was FAST lol [11:09] hehe [11:09] morning [11:09] morning ;) [11:09] jpatrick: http://pastebin.com/657241 [11:09] one sec lemme grab another cup of java [11:10] (previous chat log) [11:11] read it [11:11] cool :) [11:12] kk back [11:13] Hobbsee: it's a major bug, so i think we can upload without uvf thingies [11:13] ah ok [11:13] morning jpatrick, basicly what i've found is that the 0.4.8.2 sources work great ( no crash ) so i patched in them to the ubuntu 4.8.0 sources and packaged it up [11:14] BUT i'm new to the MOTU stuff etc ;) so i came for guidance about submiting the patch and further ubuntu maintaining the kbfx stuff [11:14] imbrandon: attach the patch and I'll test it then upload. :) [11:14] k gimme about 5 or 10 min [11:29] ok its uploading now jpatrick [11:30] k uploaded [11:31] that is one big patch [11:31] it patched the new artwork from kbfx cvs too ;( [11:32] and it has some binary data in it too [11:32] yea i was trying to get rid of the artwork, i can redo it one sec if you like [11:32] ok [11:33] gimme about 2 more min to del all the new png's [11:33] they arent needed anyhow lol [11:34] :) === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@60.254.67.17] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:51] hi slomo, tuxmaniac [11:51] hi jpatrick [11:52] jpatrick: Hi [11:52] hehe ok much better down to 128kb jpatrick [11:52] reuploaded with no patch for the new images === tuxmaniac volunteers to help [11:54] imbrandon: /root/kbfx0490/kbfxspinx/.kbfx_vista_button.h.swp looks funky [11:54] k one sec [11:58] hmmm thats how it looks in cvs too but it builds fine without it, i bet its from one of the developers closed vim too soon and created a .swp file [11:58] and it got uploaded to cvs [11:59] "b0VIM 6.3^@^" is from the begining of it [11:59] is why i say vim , i use nano myself [11:59] brb one sec, coffee time [12:02] hi all [12:02] hello [12:11] that help at all jpatrick ? *newb hopes* [12:11] I'll remove the .swp file [12:12] k [12:13] yea i did and it dident seem to have an effect, like i said must have been left over from a vim crash [12:13] I can't seem to modify the diff [12:13] odd [12:13] ? [12:14] hmmm nano/kwrite etc ? [12:14] perms mabe its chownd to me [12:14] I can with nano but not kate [12:14] odd [12:15] brb [12:32] imbrandon: polishing patch [12:38] ;) [12:47] imbrandon: building [12:49] Trying patch debian/patches/kubuntu_01_kbfx.diff at level 0...1...2...failure. [12:50] ouch [12:50] maybe it's because it's against kbfx-0.4.8.2? [12:50] might be, i'm trying to rebuild it too now === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:51] because kbfx-0.4.8 is the one in the archives [12:52] ahhhh yea shiznit, i just realized that [12:52] :( [12:52] ok leme go back, heh anyway to delete those patches and let me make a new one ( on the bugtracker ) [12:52] evening [12:53] afternoond ajmitch [12:53] imbrandon: I did like the look of the patch [12:55] ;) wont take be but just a few minutes to make up a new ( hopefulle correct one ) [12:55] hi ajmitch [12:55] welcome to the holidays! [12:57] heh :) [12:57] hey Hobbsee [12:57] how's it going? [12:57] i'm okay :) fixed my assignment (*curses at bug she didnt see before, in the background*) [12:57] it's now ready for checkpoint 2, to point out any other major bugs... [12:58] great [12:58] didnt crash in the masses of rain, or get terminally lost... === Hobbsee wandered around the same streets for about 10 mins, looking for the way out to the main road again... [12:59] girls arent good at direction you know lol - particularly when it's raining so hard that it's almost impossible to see the street signs! [01:00] hah [01:00] thankfully it's been a nice day here :) [01:01] :) === jinty [n=jinty@215.Red-83-49-54.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === marcin`__ [n=marcin@194.114.146.58] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:07] ok jpatrick I grabed new CLEAN kbfx source from the deb-src respo and dif a diff against it excluding the xpm images [01:07] uploaded and ready === Goshawk__ [n=Goshawk@d83-176-29-179.cust.tele2.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:09] hi [01:09] i've a problem packaging a program for ubuntu dapper, can i ask here? [01:09] yes [01:09] i've a problem with a package. A package X depends from package Y. But i'm going to package a program Z that substitutes Y. So i wanna make a package Z that is compatible with the X package. is there a way to do this? [01:10] imbrandon: loads of png's [01:10] Goshawk__: you make package Z have a conflicts: package Y, and have package X depending on package Z, instead of package Y, dont you? [01:11] yep [01:11] that is the problem === Goshawk__ sees debian policy about provides (this should solve this used with conflicts and replaces) [01:12] grrr coffee time , i took only the xpm's out not png's === ajmitch heads off for sleep [01:13] k jpatrick gimme a few, i'm glad your being patient with me === jouni__m [n=jouni@laku34.adsl.netsonic.fi] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Ex-Chat"] [01:13] anything to fix that bug === tman [n=tman@dyn-83-152-127-182.ppp.tiscali.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:26] hi, I've just packed a package, how do i submit it to revu using dput? [01:26] i dont have any source.changes files :( [01:27] did you use the -S -sa flags? [01:28] yep dpkg-buildpackage -S -sa -rfakeroot [01:28] but the package was already bult :s [01:28] with dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot [01:29] and then I ran dpkg-buildpackage -S -sa -rfakeroot [01:30] :/ [01:32] ko jpatrick patch ( take 2 ) uploaded [01:33] i went through it with nano this time to make sure no xpms or pngs lol [01:34] well, I did a debuild -S -sa and now I got the source.changes subtitleeditor_0.7.2-0ubuntu1_source.changes [01:34] but I got this message as well :s [01:34] E: subtitleeditor source: package-uses-debhelper-but-lacks-build-depends [01:34] W: subtitleeditor source: dh-make-template-in-source debian/cron.d.ex [01:34] W: subtitleeditor source: dh-make-template-in-source debian/menu.ex [01:34] W: subtitleeditor source: dh-make-template-in-source debian/watch.ex [01:34] W: subtitleeditor source: dh-make-template-in-source debian/subtitleeditor-default.ex [01:34] W: subtitleeditor source: dh-make-template-in-source debian/subtitleeditor.doc-base.EX [01:34] W: subtitleeditor source: dh-make-template-in-source debian/conffiles.ex [01:34] W: subtitleeditor source: dh-make-template-in-source debian/manpage.1.ex [01:34] W: subtitleeditor source: dh-make-template-in-source debian/manpage.sgml.ex [01:34] flood... [01:34] W: subtitleeditor source: dh-make-template-in-source debian/manpage.xml.ex [01:34] W: subtitleeditor source: native-package-with-dash-version [01:34] W: subtitleeditor source: maintainer-not-full-name chantra [01:34] so I wonder if the source.changes is right :s [01:35] rm debian/*.ex [01:35] jpatrick: sorry for the flood [01:36] so, if I wan't to submit the package, do I only have to dput *_source.changes ? [01:36] there is nothing in it :s [01:37] well, got to go, will gie another try later on [01:37] sign it with your key [01:37] how? [01:37] imbrandon: building ( take 2 ) [01:37] -kYOURKEY [01:38] ? [01:38] k coffee break afk 5 min [01:38] tman: do you have a gpg key? [01:38] yep [01:39] debuild -S -sa -k$(keynumber) [01:40] okie done [01:40] Uploading via ftp subtitleeditor_0.7.2-0ubuntu1.dsc: done. [01:40] Uploading via ftp subtitleeditor_0.7.2-0ubuntu1.tar.gz: [01:40] :) [01:40] imbrandon: messy http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/657452 [01:40] jpatrick: thanks for your help [01:40] *looks* [01:41] not sure what happened there.. [01:41] whoa [01:41] what should I expect then, a mail from the motu? [01:41] hmmm [01:41] imbrandon: where can i get the 0.4.8.2 tarball? [01:41] one sec [01:41] tman: get someone to revu it [01:42] :) [01:42] do they mail you back then? [01:42] no [01:42] it goes on the site [01:42] to tell what os wrong [01:42] okie [01:42] got to go, cheers again [01:44] http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/kbfx/kbfx-0.4.8.2.tar.bz2?download [01:45] 4.8.2 compile and works fine one 4 of my ubuntu machines ( 3 run dapper ) [01:45] one == on [01:45] all i386 though, no way to test other arch [01:46] http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=141258 [01:51] Hi all, is there a metapackage to install a packaging environment? [01:52] dpkg-dev [01:52] imbrandon: take 3 [01:53] hehe ( not funny really ) [01:53] :) sorry [01:53] i hope its not 7am there for you ;) [01:54] no problems for me, i just wanna see kbfx working ;) [01:54] i'm glad someone got it into dapper [01:56] you a dev? [01:56] trying to be, actualy it seems no one else is working on it but me [01:56] everyone else from the project is mia [01:57] but no i dont do it for a living but i've been working on kbfx for like 3 months now and ubuntu for about 6 [01:58] more used to cvs than diff though ;) [01:58] thing keeps failing......... [01:58] can't I package the cvs? :) [01:59] damm hmm can you build just the 8.2 tarbal ? [01:59] sure [01:59] cvs is what i'm working with, everything i have is commited to cvs [01:59] great [02:00] *thought you would never ask* [02:00] lol [02:00] :) [02:02] never worked with cvs [02:02] now it's downloading [02:03] ahh cvs ( or svn ) is NICE [02:03] very very helpfull to large projects with devs from all over [02:03] SVN I know [02:03] there's nothing in src/ [02:03] svn == newer cvs [02:03] imbrandon: CVS is very _not_ nice:O [02:04] cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/kbfx co -P kbfx0490 [02:04] lifeless: hehe well its been nice to me but svn is good too [02:05] that's better :) [02:05] actualy i like svn better but cvs has been arround for ages [02:05] imbrandon: this is the bzr-fanboy chan [02:05] bzr? [02:06] http://bazaar-vcs.org/ [02:06] bazaar [02:06] ahhh never used it will have to check it out [02:06] imbrandon: basically every checkout is treated as a branch, iirc === pygi [n=pygi@83-131-251-111.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pygi pokes slomo [02:07] brb time to make more coffee === ealden [n=ealden@203.76.212.70] has joined #ubuntu-motu === erez [n=erez@62.0.155.133] has joined #ubuntu-motu === marcin`__ [n=marcin@194.114.146.58] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jinty [n=jinty@144.Red-83-55-196.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:25] imbrandon: does it really need automake.1.6 ? [02:25] no just automake 1.6+ [02:25] i use 1.9 [02:25] doesn't work with 1.9 [02:26] ahhh yea i symlinked it, you can edit the makefile [02:26] ** YOU'RE USING automake (GNU automake) 1.9.6 [02:26] it shouldent make a diff [02:26] one sec [02:26] jpatrick: ? [02:26] Tm_T: what it says [02:27] 15:25 < jpatrick> doesn't work with 1.9 [02:27] automake1.9 [02:27] jpatrick: I haven't seen the error yet ;) [02:27] In order to make it work with another automake version (1.9.* in the example) you have to edit the cvs.sh under the admin folder... there look for the "AUTOMAKE_STRING" and modify the following section as follows: [02:27] automake*1.6.* | automake*1.7.* | automake*1.8.* | automake*1.9.* ) : ;; [02:28] Tm_T: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/657505 you happy now? [02:28] as long as its 1.6 or above [02:28] jpatrick: I'm always happy ;) [02:29] ;) [02:29] imbrandon: line 67? [02:29] should be === pygi [n=pygi@83-131-251-111.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] [02:30] jpatrick: haha, somewhat stupid your error is ;) [02:42] imbrandon: appears to work now [02:44] sweet [02:46] well done, kids ;) === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:52] ok i'm off to sleep for a few hours [02:52] imbrandon: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/dapper-changes/2006-April/009310.html [02:52] i'll be back a little later [02:52] *waits* [02:52] woot [02:52] thanks jpatrick [02:53] thank you [02:53] np i'm going to update it from the respo then head to sleep for a few hours ;) i'll be back this eve === Tm_T_ [i=tm_travo@xob.kapsi.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:08] Were any fonts changed for firefox? Since one of the recent updates, my fonts look different... === xophEr [n=xopher@a84-230-124-206.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@mail.ottens.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === allee [n=ach@allee.exgal.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:27] Heya Gang [03:29] hey === Meyer [i=mariomey@ubuntu/member/mariomeyer] has joined #ubuntu-motu === G0SUB_ [i=ghoseb@ubuntu-in.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hub [n=hub@storm-gw.xandros.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Yagisan [n=jamie@60-240-68-200-nsw-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === No1Viking [n=Viking@h-83-140-104-3.ip.cust.port80.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu === plugwash [i=plugwash@p10link.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ZuZubuntu-fr [n=ZuZubunt@AVelizy-154-1-26-141.w82-124.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === MagnusR [n=magru@c83-250-59-127.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:40] bddebian: around? [05:40] Yo === JohnnyMast [n=rave@84-104-9-27.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:41] tyvis and saoimage are removed ;-) [05:41] LaserJock: "great" thanks :-) [05:41] and I even got one added yesterday [05:42] Nice [05:42] I have 2 more to go [05:42] LaserJock: You have any time? [05:43] bddebian: sure, what's up? [05:44] LaserJock: I uploaded ygraph but apparently it FTBFSs on all archs. I think it may just need a autoreconf or whatever but all my machines are tied up :-( [05:45] w00t. I broke bzip2 by rebuilding with a newer gcc [05:45] bddebian: ok, I'm not sure how to autoreconf stuff but I do have a machine available [05:45] Yagisan: Nice :-) [05:46] Yagisan: does gunzip work? [05:46] bddebian: yeah. I get this cool error "/usr/bin/ld: bzip2: hidden symbol `__stack_chk_fail_local' in /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.1.0/../../../../lib32/libssp_nonshared.a(libssp_nonshared_la-ssp-local.o) is referenced by DSO" followed by [05:47] bddebian: "/usr/bin/ld: final link failed: Nonrepresentable section on output" [05:47] w00t [05:47] LaserJock: havent tried it yet [05:49] bddebian: dang it, I went tried to reject the tyvis bug but it said it has already been rejected ;-) [05:49] LaserJock: Sorry man :-) [05:49] Just trying to "clean up" :_) [05:49] bddebian: how am I supposed to get any karma when you beat me to everything ;p [05:50] You could actually "fix" something === bddebian hides [05:50] doh [05:50] :-) [05:50] j/k [05:50] Sorry, I won't do that again [05:50] well, I think I'm pretty much done with the packaging guide for now, so I think I can help [05:50] LaserJock: well, if you could, I'd like to actually be able to print in dapper [05:51] LaserJock: I'm sure that would get you lots of karma [05:51] Yagisan: I'd love to but I wouldn't be able to test anything and I have 57 bugs to work on right now as it is ;-) [05:52] LaserJock: 57 bugs? [05:52] LaserJock: that's ok. I think gs-esp is main's problem anyway [05:53] bddebian: https://launchpad.net/people/motuscience/+subscribedbugs [05:53] Oh yeah, that list... [05:54] first I'm going to get 2 NEW packages while I still can and then I'll work on the bugs [05:58] anybody here for a quick review, and sponsered upload to universe of HUB? [05:58] what is HUB? [05:58] http://muse.19inch.net/~sivan/HUB/ [05:58] hub: heh [05:58] I thought that somebody was ringing me [05:59] sivang: did you upload it to REVU? [06:01] hub: not yet, I was thinking of having someone review it ASAP :-) I need it in the repo as fast as can be, so people will start bombard me with bugspam :) === sivang realizes this might be impossible [06:01] sivang: FF [06:01] sivang: REVU is the good place to have it review [06:02] upload it there a bug a MOTU to review it [06:02] bug given that universe is in FF, I wouldn't hold my breath [06:02] I have approval from mdz to upload it to universe when it's presentable to users, which is now === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:03] but if you do hold your breath, it may be a new Guinness World Record [06:03] although I'll ask him again just to make sure [06:03] Yagisan: AH AH AH === lakin [n=lakin@S01060013101832ce.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:06] hub: are you approved for uploading to universe? [06:07] sivang: I'm a MOTU [06:07] but we are on FF, so I won't upload new things [06:07] hub: cool, could you please upload it to REVU on my behalf? [06:07] and any new package has to be approved by at least 3 MOTU === Yagisan attempts to break coreutils. Go Yagi Go [06:08] sivang: you can upload to REVU yourself [06:08] hub: err, two [06:08] jpatrick: I thought is was 3 [06:09] hub: used to be [06:09] okay [06:10] hub: okay === marcin` [n=marcin@194.114.146.58] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:13] hub: who is approving FF exceptions ? === Yagisan falls off chair. coreutils actually built and seems to work. [06:22] w00t :-) [06:30] arggh, stupid fire alarm. Power went out at school [06:31] heh, ever lost all the data they were collecting but I have my iMac on a UPS ;-) [06:31] s/ever/everybody/ [06:32] heh === bddebian hands cernlib off to LaserJock before he kills himself [06:33] ogra: ping :( === Lure [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:39] mitsuhiko, just bzr get the source from http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/bzr-archive/hwdb-client/ [06:39] mitsuhiko, there is no server side part, feel free to build one [06:39] jep [06:39] i will do :) [06:40] i would like to improve the client and write a server software for it :) [06:46] ogra: can you get dholbach and together arrange a review board for the first upload of HUB ?:) [06:47] sivang, but not today anymore ... i'm about to leave [06:47] bddebian: what is up with cernlib? [06:47] sivang: same here [06:47] LaserJock: kxterm and paw++ desktop files. I can't get them in the damn .deb files :-( [06:48] bddebian: k [06:48] ogra, dholbach : okay, can we make it a date for tomorrow? :) [06:49] sivang: send me a mail and i'll look at it [06:49] dholbach: you're my hero!! [06:49] (a mail with the url and stuff) [06:49] dholbach: sure, will do it now [06:49] thanks [06:49] dholbach: thank you! [06:55] dholbach: sent [06:55] dholbach: still missing icons for the menu, but I am working on it [06:56] dholbach: (the deskop/administration menu from the panel, that is) === fredix [n=fredix@202.70.97-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jinty [n=jinty@144.Red-83-55-196.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === herzi [n=herzi@c220146.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lucas [n=lucas@ubuntu/member/lucas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:15] hi === Lure [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:15] um... i'm fixing one bug in bacula... [08:15] G'day ivoks === Kyral_ [n=kyral@ubuntu/member/kyral] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:15] i noticed it builds against libmysqlclient14, but works on mysql-5 [08:15] should i try building it againt 15off? [08:16] ivoks: dumb question, either of those mysql in main ? [08:16] mysql is irrelevant [08:16] libmysqlclient is what i'm asking about === Lure [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:17] ivoks: if it was me, I'd want to build agains the one that gets better security support [08:17] Yagisan: yeah, but i'll have to see if it builds at all [08:18] ivoks: give it a try [08:19] yeah... will do === ealden [n=ealden@203.76.212.70] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:20] ivoks: what's the worst that could happen ? [08:21] worst? broken bacula in dapper :) [08:22] but i'll make sure that doesn't happen :) [08:23] ivoks: actually I was thinking FTBFS. I've been getting a few of those today while I scratch my particular itch [08:24] well, it's FTBS with libmysqlclient14 [08:24] and that makes me think :) [08:25] ivoks: I'd try 15 then [08:25] allready running [08:25] damn... same thing [08:25] urgh... this will be a long night [08:25] w00t. gzip works too [08:28] i have to grab something to eat :/ === tman [n=tman@dyn-83-152-127-182.ppp.tiscali.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:29] hi === cbx33 [n=pete@84-45-238-195.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:34] hi all [08:34] how many versions of the kill binary are there? [08:35] Heya cbx33 [08:35] hi, I've uploaded a package 10 hours ago, i don't see it on revu.tauware.de is this normal [08:35] did I forget something (like getting my key signed :s ) [08:35] hi bddebian [08:35] Uhm, that would do it :-) === Lure [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:36] i have a source package that i don't think matches the binary package === cassidy [n=cassidy@f1-pc174.ulb.ac.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:38] anyway to confirm this? [08:39] bddebian: tired of having your system "just work", want all the excitement of possible breakage, want endless hours of fun chasing down obscure bugs ? I have just the thing for you to test :) [08:39] Uh oh [08:39] cbx33: ?? === Lure [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:40] if the key is not signed, can a package be uploaded, or is it automatically rejected? [08:40] bddebian, i donloaded a source package [08:40] did a debuild [08:41] and one of the binaries produced [08:41] differed from the apt-get install i did earlier [08:41] bddebian: don't worry, it's unlikely you will need to reinstall (I hope) === Lure [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu === redguy [n=mati@adp104.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:43] bddebian: you'd like a more secure system, wouldn't you ? === Lure [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gervystar [n=alessand@ip-124-244.adsl.cheapnet.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Yagisan wonders if he scared bddebian off === dholbach leaves too - have a good time === seth|lappy [n=seth@ubuntu/member/seth] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:55] anyone got any clue about the problem i posed? [08:55] sorry for keeping on with this one guys [08:57] cbx33: can you rephrase it? [08:57] how different? [08:57] the binaries are different sizes [08:58] how much? [08:58] and the usage message is very different [08:58] about 500 bytes [08:58] or so [08:58] the usage message? [08:58] Yagisan: Sorry, man work crap.. :-( [08:58] yeh [08:58] how to use the binary [08:58] since my bug is to do with that [08:58] a missing or over documented option [08:58] blah... bacula is seriously FTBS [08:58] sudo dpkg -i .deb :) [08:59] we might need a new version :/ [08:59] oh, there is no new ver in debian :/ [09:00] how many packages provide the kill binary?? [09:00] ivoks: why FTBFS ? [09:01] cbx33: Try packages.debian.org or packages.ubuntu.org and look at file contained in packages.. [09:01] bad packaging [09:01] interesting [09:01] new bacula 1.38 is out since 2006-01-19 [09:01] and we still have old one [09:01] and there are dramatic changes [09:02] Yagisan: strip: 'src/stored/bscan': No such file :) [09:02] it can be fixed [09:02] i'll contact debian maintaner to see if he has plans of uploading new version [09:02] and ask for UVF exception for it [09:03] ugh. zlib uses dbs. How am I supposed to make a patch for this ? [09:04] omg! [09:05] bacula isn't maintained for a year in debian [09:05] urghhhhh [09:06] ivoks: congrats. You are the new maintainer! (actually, as bacula is very useful, someone should really give it some love) [09:06] yeah, i use it on lots of locations [09:06] i'll do it [09:07] urgh... i hope i know what i'm doing :) [09:07] this isn't easy slice of software :/ [09:10] hi , after uploading a package, I don't see it in http://revu.tauware.de/ , is this normal? [09:10] tman: takes 5-10 minutes usually [09:13] arf, I submitted the package few hours ago, [09:13] but at the time, i didn't make my key signed, would it be a reason? [09:14] is it required to have a key signed to upload to revu [09:15] yes [09:15] tman: I don't think so. But it only takes source only uploads [09:15] ivoks: But it's still in Debian? [09:15] bddebian: probably QA maintainer [09:16] Ah [09:16] ivoks: What's the build error? [09:18] Yagisan: so, if i created a .deb package, and want to add it to revu, I just need to dput -P *_source.changes [09:18] and then it should be uploaded, right? how to I follow evolution of the package ? [09:18] tman: You want to do a dpkg-buildpackage or debuild -S, then yes, dput revu .changes [09:19] bddebian: [09:19] mv: cannot stat `src/stored/bscan': No such file or directory [09:19] mv: cannot stat `src/stored/bcopy': No such file or directory [09:19] bddebian: anyway, i think i can fix it [09:19] bddebian: but we have to include new version ASAP === Yagisan curses at dbs [09:19] it has lots of bugs fixed and important fatures [09:20] ivoks: Cool. There's a new upstream version? [09:20] even configuration isn't the same any more [09:20] bddebian: yeah, for a 7-8 months allready :) === infinito [n=infinito@VPNPOOL01-0314.UNI-MUENSTER.DE] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:22] anyone know if dbs-edit-patch is busted ? [09:26] bddebian: yep, this is what i did [09:27] I don't really get on to retrieve password from revu.tauware.de [09:27] after doing as it is said on the web page for recovering password, I dont get anything displayed :s [09:28] doing gpg -d << ivoks: What a surprise.. :_) [09:29] Yagisan: dbs-edit-patch? [09:29] bddebian: :) check out: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=337250 [09:29] Debian bug 337250 in bacula "Subject: bacula: FTBFS: 'src/stored/bscan': No such file" [Serious,Open] [09:29] guy is alive [09:31] ivoks: Yeah, well barely apparently :-) [09:32] bddebian: from the dbs patch system === Amaranth [n=amaranth@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:32] look what guy did in building rules [09:32] 2>&1 >/dev/null on make [09:32] what an... uh! [09:32] I saw that in the bug report. WTF is that? [09:32] how can i debug... === Amaranth [n=amaranth@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:32] he's redirecting errors in /dev/null [09:33] so you can't find them :) [09:33] grr [09:35] could anyone help me out with the recovering from revu.tauware.de [09:36] pls, I can seem to make the gpg -d thingy to work :s === Yagisan has decided he doesn't like dbs very much now [09:41] :) [09:42] ivoks: all I want to do is a f*cking 1 line change to a makefile, and the damm thing won't let me [09:42] tman: Are you getting the gpg message when you hit recover? [09:42] yep [09:43] bddebian: but when decrypting, entering my keypass, i don't seem to get anything [09:43] The output is ugly. Alot of times the password just shows up right next to the cursor prompt so it's hard to see it :-) [09:43] Yagisan: does it have to be dbs? [09:43] I have to paste from ----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE to END PGP MESSAGE----- aint I? [09:44] Yes [09:44] with those lines [09:44] ivoks: yes. that is what zlib uses. I just want to delete one small section that says CC=cc [09:44] lol [09:44] but why, we have cc [09:45] bddebian: I just get None :( [09:45] and it is not my pass :s [09:46] eh! it builds! woahahahahahaha === Lure [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:46] ivoks: Rock on man [09:47] but we should really consider new bacula for dapper [09:47] this one is sooooo outdated [09:47] ivoks: You going to maintain it? ;-) [09:47] nope... it looks like DD will :) [09:47] ivoks: because, it is overriding the gcc I'm specifying. And as the old gcc does not support the flag I'm using, it craps out on build. [09:47] bddebian: after pasting the text, it tells me You need a passphrase to unlock the secret key for [09:47] Yagisan: I tought that could be a problem [09:48] I do enter it correct then I get garbage like [09:48] user: "blalbal blla " === Yagisan kicks dbs hard [09:49] and then tells me stories about key ID, my key username ... [09:49] but no pass aroud :s [09:50] is there something I'm missing? [09:50] tman: Yes, do you enter your gpg passphrase? [09:50] yep [09:50] bddebian: and it is right, as it don't through up error [09:54] Do you get something like user: "First Last " [09:54] Then gpg: Encrypted with .... [09:58] tman: ^ ?? [10:05] sorry bddebian [10:06] bddebian: yes, I do get "first last " [10:06] gpg: encrypted with ... [10:08] and then I get a for char word which is not my pass :s, and this is not my [10:10] tman: It should be your password. If not something else is broken [10:11] login is email address isn't it [10:12] yes === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:12] bddebian: the ubuntu dev guide says that once you uploaded a package, you are automatically added to revu [10:13] I'm starting to onder if I'm added to it :s [10:14] tman: ah, have you ever requested access to revu ? [10:14] if I want to reupload the package, I get [10:14] Upload package to host revu [10:14] Already uploaded to revu.tauware.de [10:14] Yagisan: nope [10:15] tman: you may not be on the list of authorised uploaders then === Yagisan had to apply [10:15] arf [10:15] but doing a dput *_source.changes tells me [10:16] that it is already uploaded, how can I know the process of the package [10:16] tman: it will take the upload, but it will need to be manually processed by an admin [10:16] moreover, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/REVU?action=show&redirect=REVU says: [10:16] tman: iirc siretart and ajmitch are admins [10:16] After your first upload, you will be automatically registered to the database and assigned a random password. [10:16] Use the email address you used in the changelog file of your upload as login and press the [10:17] 'recover password' link, so as to receive your password by email. [10:17] never received any emails :s [10:17] Yagisan: do you reckon I should pm them ? === JohnnyMast [n=rave@84-104-9-27.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:18] I basically, will like to know where the packages processing is at :) [10:19] tman: well, siretart is on holidays, and ajmitch should still be in bed (actually, so should I) [10:19] I think I'm an admin but I can't remember my damn password :-( [10:21] is it then possible to check the processing of a package? [10:22] quch as "in process", "to be processed" .... [10:23] tman: what is your package name ? [10:24] Yagisan: I am in bed :) [10:24] laptops are great [10:24] ajmitch: morning ! I've been making progress with my SSP work tonight/lastnight [10:25] morning Yagisan :) [10:25] great! [10:25] Yagisan: yay [10:25] just dbs is mocking me why I try to build zlib with SSP [10:25] s/shy/when [10:26] tman: is your gpg key in the uploaders' keyring for REVU? [10:26] tman: also, which package did you try & upload? [10:28] tseng: still uses the "ugly" libssp0-dev addition to build-deps though [10:28] Yagisan: subtitleeditor [10:29] tman: rejected [10:29] i find it hard to believe he is in the keyring as ive never seen him before [10:29] ajmitch: raphink did add it [10:29] oh, revu [10:29] Yagisan: arf, who do we know the reason ... [10:31] tman: I don't know. I just ftpped into the incoming queue and checked rejected, and there it was. Did you sign the .changes file ? [10:31] i guess [10:32] tman: I moved it back & it looks to have been accepted this time [10:32] not sure why it wouldn't go through the first time :) [10:32] Heya ajmitch [10:32] i did run dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot [10:33] hello bddebian [10:33] and then debuild -S -sa [10:33] why do both [10:33] Aye [10:33] then dput *_source.change [10:34] tseng: cause the first time I had no source.change [10:35] ajmitch: thks, I see it in revu.tauware.de === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:38] ajmitch: bddebian cool, I finnally retrieved my password :) [10:38] excellent, what was it? [10:38] the problem, not the password :-) [10:39] bddebian: caus my upload got rejected in the first place [10:39] Ahh [10:39] ajmitch: moved it back and the package was accepted !?! [10:40] therefore I was able to retrieve my password :) [10:42] ajmitch: feel like testing out some SSP enabled applications ? [10:43] Damnit, what is the libglu1 thing now? === cyberserver [n=jp@bl6-25-111.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:49] bddebian: anf now, will I be informed of any comments ... by mail or should I check by time? [10:50] tman: I believe they have added e-mail notifications but don't quote me on that :-) === allee [n=ach@allee.exgal.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:50] Hi people. I tought I should tell this to someone, altough I'm not sure if it's a bug or not: I'm doing a net install of dapper (I've booted of a netinstall mini-cd) and, when installing/configuring packages dapper asked me what was my braille reader?!? [10:51] bddebian: okie dokie, will check by time then ;) [10:51] thnks for all :) [10:51] NP [10:53] I'm pretty sure I havent chosen any option for sight-disabled, and its kind of strange of getting 1 package out of some 600 that were installed right now that asked question, while no other did [10:58] cyberserver: I got that message in my dist-upgrade today [11:07] tseng: I'm impressed with just how many apps FTBFS with ssp enabled === Arrogance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-206-191-33-201.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:25] See you in a bit folks [11:26] Yagisan: have you talked to anyone from gentoo [11:29] tseng: nope. I only had some time tonight to do some work, so I randomly picked 22 packages from all over dapper. So far 3 fails, 2 pass, and 17 to go [11:30] tseng: It may well be my own relative inexperience at packaging that may be the cause of the failures, === theCore [n=alex@toronto-HSE-ppp4206365.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure_ [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:35] Yagisan: do you have logs for the failures === jcape [i=jcape@c-67-175-222-206.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:40] tseng: I can make pbuilder generate them === TMM [n=hp@c51471f2c.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Marce [i=marce@meinungsverstaerker.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === allee [n=ach@allee.exgal.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === womble [n=mpalmer@eth359.nsw.adsl.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Marce_ [i=marce@meinungsverstaerker.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Marce_ is now known as Marce [11:49] tseng: where would you like the logs ? [11:50] anywhere === ohoel [n=beshy@85.89.203.36] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mdke [n=matt@ubuntu/member/mdke] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:52] there is a diff on https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gxine/+bug/39507 if someone fancies the easiest and fastest bug close ever. (is it still hug day?) [11:53] Malone bug 39507 in gxine "HIG compliant menu entry" [Normal,Unconfirmed] [11:53] tseng: they are in here http://eyagi.bpa.nu/~jamie/uf/ [11:54] tseng: zlib should be because minizip sets it's own CC, and dbs-edit-patch failed to work as advertised [11:54] yeah [11:54] tseng: bzip2, I have no idea, and zip appears to not link [11:54] suck [11:54] so [11:55] alot of this is fucked up makefiles [11:55] tseng: basically, yes [11:55] which gentoo avoids [11:55] tseng: eg coreutils and gzip were good [11:55] adamantix goes for the hack and slash technique [11:55] you might steal from them [11:55] tseng: are they still at woody ? [11:55] hm [11:55] are they that behind? [11:56] tseng: when I last checked, yeah [11:56] wow [11:56] useless [11:58] tseng: they chose to stick with 2.4.x kernels, and yeah, they have a mention of backporting from sarge! === carthik [n=carthik@unaffiliated/carthik] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:01] i havent worked on Hardened for over a year [12:01] anything i say is dated [12:03] tseng: and yet, probably more up to date then many of the sites I have to chose from [12:03] haha. [12:03] could be === mdke [n=matt@ubuntu/member/mdke] has left #ubuntu-motu []