[12:17] <LaserJock> dang it, how do you get ^M to turn into a newline
[12:21] <crimsun> interactively, or?
[01:15] <JustinLynn> slomo> I've been testing your package and so far it's been great I've built several applications and banshee plugins with it. Absolutely no complaints or apparent bugs :)
[01:47] <Toadstool> 'night
[03:14] <bddebian> Heya gang
[03:15] <ajmitch> good day sir
[03:15] <bddebian> Heya ajmitch
[03:31] <LaserJock> hi bddebian and ajmitch
[03:32] <bddebian> Heya LaserJock
[03:33] <LaserJock> bddebian: was saoimage FTBS?
[03:35] <bddebian> Yep
[03:35] <bddebian> And gone from Debian
[03:35] <LaserJock> k
[03:36] <ajmitch> hello LaserJock
[03:53] <LaserJock> bddebian: ok, I filed bugs for tyvis and saoimage
[04:01] <bddebian> LaserJock_away: Rock on d00d
[04:02] <bddebian> OK, damnit, how can adding a desktop file and a couple dh_install commands screw up dh_shlibdeps?
[04:46] <crimsun> bddebian: does it really do cp /usr/lib/dx/bin/dx [..] ?
[04:47] <bddebian> The rules file is a mess
[04:47] <bddebian> I'm rebuilding currently so I'll let you know :-)
[04:47] <crimsun> bddebian: ok. That source file looks suspiciously absolute and not relative to the root of the extracted source.
[04:48] <bddebian> crimsun: ?
[04:48] <bddebian> Damn cernlib is hideous too
[04:48] <crimsun> if debian/rules actually executes a cp /some/absolute/path instead of cp $(pwd)/relative/path, ...
[04:48] <bddebian> Ahh
[05:27] <bddebian> crimsun: Still around?
[05:28] <crimsun> bddebian: you caught me right before I suspended to get groceries
[05:28] <bddebian> Ah, go ahead
[05:28] <crimsun> k, back in a bit.
[05:28] <bddebian> ok
[06:34] <bddebian> Gnight folks
[06:34] <crimsun> 'night
[07:29] <dholbach> HAPPY HUG DAY!
[07:31] <Hobbsee> hi dholbach
[07:32] <dholbach> hey Hobbsee
[07:33] <Hobbsee> hug day already hey?
[07:33] <Hobbsee> i thought it would be on my saturday...
[07:34] <dholbach> nah... when we realized friday would be "easter" and everybody would be busy having fun with their family, we moved to thursday :)
[07:34] <Hobbsee> ah...that's a point...
[07:35] <dholbach> yeah :)
[07:35] <dholbach> so,,, happy hug day! :)
[07:36] <Hobbsee> hehe
[07:41] <dholbach> uhhhh, the one that got motu-uvf approval?
[07:42] <Hobbsee> dunno, i didnt know it was going for UVF approval
[07:44] <dholbach> 0.5.2 -> 0.6.0
[07:46] <Hobbsee> yeah, 0.6.0 - there you go...
[07:48] <dholbach> Hobbsee: can you follow up on the bug report (bug 39221)? (if it's 'just a bug' we have to report it upstream immediately - if it makes the world unhappy, we have to think twice about updating)
[07:48] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 39221 in kpowersave "UVF exception 0.5.2 -> 0.6.0" [Normal,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/39221
[07:50] <Hobbsee> dholbach: can i follow it up?  how do you mean?
[07:51] <dholbach> Hobbsee: just write about the problem you see with the new version
[07:51] <Hobbsee> dholbach: package was fine with the old kernel, i'll have to test agian with the new one...
[07:51] <dholbach> ah ok
[07:51] <Hobbsee> but i'll check on it, yeah
[07:52] <dholbach> because you said, you found a bug
[07:52] <Hobbsee> yeah, i did.  not sure yet if that's related to acpi or kpowersave though
[07:52] <dholbach> Hobbsee: ah ok
[07:58] <Unfrgiven> hi all
[07:58] <dholbach> hey Unfrgiven! happy hug day!
[08:04] <Unfrgiven> oh yeah completely forgot about that!
[08:05] <Hobbsee> interesting...
[08:05] <Unfrgiven> does the UVF apply to universe as well??
[08:06] <Hobbsee> Unfrgiven: yes
[08:06] <Unfrgiven> Hobbsee: bummer
[08:06] <Hobbsee> heh
[08:06] <Hobbsee> you can write an exception, if you like...
[08:07] <Unfrgiven> i might have to raise an exception. im packaging madwifi-ng drivers atm
[08:07] <Unfrgiven> almost done.
[08:09] <Unfrgiven> arent the new nvidia drivers just great? suspend rocks!
[08:21] <root__> oh shit...
[08:23] <Hobbsee> dunno exactly what i did, but it clearly wasnt good!
[08:30] <dholbach> Hobbsee: oh... how did that happen?
[08:30] <Unfrgiven> Hobbsee: did you install something new? did you fiddle with the grub conf files?
[08:31] <Unfrgiven> Hobbsee: could it be a hardware problem?
[08:31] <Hobbsee> ah...
[08:31] <Hobbsee> well i did a remove ndiswrapper*
[08:31] <Hobbsee> and then rebooted eventually g
[08:31] <Hobbsee> getting a grub error 15
[08:31] <Unfrgiven> Hobbsee: that shouldn't cause an error.
[08:31] <Hobbsee> it shouldnt, no
[08:32] <Hobbsee> can someone tell me what a grub error 15 is please, and how i fix it?
[08:32] <Unfrgiven> Hobbsee: ive just googled it.
[08:32] <Hobbsee> i can only have one window open at a time, so i'm kinda helpless
[08:32] <Unfrgiven> apparently it means that grub can't find your kernel
[08:32] <Hobbsee> Unfrgiven: thank's very much
[08:32] <Hobbsee> yeah, i'd gotten that much...it cant find any of them...
[08:33] <Unfrgiven> Hobbsee: wait, so you can boot into ur recovery kernel but not your normal one?
[08:33] <Hobbsee> Unfrgiven: yes
[08:33] <Hobbsee> and then can do startx, which is where i am now
[08:34] <Hobbsee> yes, as root (eek!)
[08:34] <Unfrgiven> Hobbsee: aight no problems. reboot and edit the recovery line. remove the parameter that says single
[08:34] <Unfrgiven> that should get you into your normal boot
[08:35] <Hobbsee> remove the parameter that says single?
[08:35] <Lure> Hobbsee: there are other reports with error 15 on boot in forums
[08:35] <Hobbsee> Lure: i'll bet there are - but i cant get to any :P
[08:35] <Unfrgiven> yeah thats the one
[08:36] <Hobbsee> i cant STFW if i can only have one window open at a time hehe!
[08:36] <Unfrgiven> Hobbsee: that will boot you into your mornal environment
[08:36] <Unfrgiven> and then you can debug the problem once you are in your normal env
[08:37] <Lure> can you post menu.lstr
[08:37] <Lure> (pastebin)
[08:37] <Hobbsee> Lure: no, i dont have a script to pastebin
[08:37] <Hobbsee> yes, it's frustrating - it's frustrating here too
[08:38] <dholbach> in the recovery thingie, you could try to run      update-grub
[08:38] <Unfrgiven> Hobbsee: dont remove the single parameter in your grub/menu.lst
[08:38] <dholbach> and see what happens
[08:38] <Unfrgiven> Hobbsee: what is the difference between the recovery kernel conf and your normal kernel conf in grub/menu.lst?
[08:38] <Hobbsee> Unfrgiven: i thought you just said to remove it
[08:39] <Hobbsee> ah, it's got "quiet splash" in the normal one or something...
[08:40] <Unfrgiven> Hobbsee: i mean that you should remove it when you are booting. not change the files
[08:40] <Hobbsee> dholbach: that seemed to do something, i'll see...
[08:40] <Unfrgiven> Hobbsee: grub allows you to edit your boot parameters when you are booting
[08:40] <Hobbsee> Unfrgiven: ah ok, it reverted the changes anyway with update-grub
[08:40] <dholbach> do you have /Boot on a separate partition that is full?
[08:40] <Unfrgiven> Hobbsee: press "e" when grub shows you the menu
[08:40] <Hobbsee> Unfrgiven: true...i was being lazy, still signed in here
[08:40] <Hobbsee> yeah, i know where you mean
[08:40] <Hobbsee> dholbach: no, /boot's not on a separate partition
[08:41] <Unfrgiven> Hobbsee: hehe typical software developer, lazy :P
[08:41] <Hobbsee> anyway, back in a min, will try those bits...
[08:41] <Unfrgiven> Hobbsee: so you are saying that the recovery image and normal image are the same?
[08:42] <Unfrgiven> Hobbsee: because if they are using the same image then i cant see how the recovery is working but normal isnt
[08:42] <Hobbsee> Unfrgiven: recovery has single in the parameters, normal has quiet, splash in the parameters
[08:42] <Unfrgiven> Hobbsee: is the kernel image the same for both?
[08:42] <Hobbsee> i reverted the changes on the menu.lst when i ran update-grub
[08:42] <Hobbsee> Unfrgiven: yes, everythign else is the same
[08:42] <Hobbsee> back in a min...
[08:42] <Hobbsee> hmmm...how to get out...
[08:42] <Hobbsee> oh yes...
[08:46] <Unfrgiven> Hobbsee: yay!
[08:46] <Hobbsee> dholbach: Unfrgiven ok...well...
[08:46] <Hobbsee> that was interesting...
[08:47] <Hobbsee> update grub didnt work, removing the single line manually did
[08:47] <Hobbsee> and i can have more than one window open at a time now - yay!
[08:49] <Unfrgiven> Hobbsee: removing the single is not the right long term solution
[08:49] <Hobbsee_> okay...
[09:05] <Hobbsee> this gets weirder and weirder...
[09:08] <Unfrgiven> im off all... cya
[09:11] <Hobbsee> dholbach: any idea what the savedefault line does in the kernel?
[09:11] <Hobbsee> er, menu.list?
[09:13] <Hobbsee> man grub didnt show much...
[09:14] <Lure> Hobbsee: it remebers last selected option that was booted and offers it as default
[09:14] <Lure> only the kernels with savedefault qualify
[09:15] <Lure> but you also need to change default to "saved" or simlar instead of explicit number (to use it)
[09:15] <Hobbsee> Lure: interesting.  so...that would be giving an error 15 how?
[09:15] <Hobbsee> well, how does one change it?
[09:15] <Lure> maybe... not sure that this could have such big side effect, but I have not used it
[09:15] <Hobbsee> presumably the last setting got corrupted somehow, or something?
[09:16] <Lure> but I think this is onlt proposed default (instead of hardcoded item list number)
[09:16] <Lure> you may want to comment out savedefault in the problematic kernel and see if it helps
[09:16] <Lure> can you post your menu.lst to pastebin?
[09:17] <Hobbsee> Lure: it's already there, i'll find the link...
[09:17] <Hobbsee> Lure: http://pastebin.com/657122
[09:17] <Hobbsee> i have a new thing there, a copy of the first one, identical to the first one, - the save default line, and it works perfectly...
[09:19] <Lure> interesting... maybe you should file the bug...
[09:19] <Hobbsee> Lure: under what?
[09:19] <Lure> grub
[09:19] <Hobbsee> ahhh...
[09:21] <Lure> Hobbsee: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=151222&page=6&highlight=kpowersave
[09:21] <Lure> reinstalling grub helped for people... - maybe powersave is doing something with grub...
[09:22] <Hobbsee> it's definetly something to do with savedefault though...
[09:23] <Hobbsee> heh, you beat me to it Lure!
[09:24] <Lure> ;-)
[09:24] <cbx33> hey all
[09:24] <Lure> Hobbsee: it may be powersave - see /etc/powersave/sleep and try changing BOOT_LOADER="OTHER"
[09:25] <Lure> it may be that powersave does something to grub before suspend (that does not work on Ubuntu)
[09:25] <Lure> will look into powersave code what this option does
[09:27] <Hobbsee> okay, thanks anyway
[09:30] <cbx33> i have a package here, where the source and binary packages seem to differ
[09:30] <cbx33> oh
[09:30] <cbx33> hmmmm
[09:33] <cbx33> how do apply all dpatches to the current source
[09:49] <cbx33> hmmm
[09:49] <dholbach> dpatch apply-all
[09:50] <Hobbsee> oh yes, bug report...yes...
[09:50] <cbx33> thankyou
[09:50] <dholbach> Hobbsee: take your time... :)
[09:50] <Hobbsee> hehe
[09:50] <Hobbsee> dholbach: you fix grub by any chance?
[09:51] <dholbach> Hobbsee: no... I'm not mad enough - sorry
[09:51] <Hobbsee> hehe!
[09:51] <cbx33> got another quickie
[09:51] <cbx33> say I've just done an apt-get source
[09:51] <cbx33> and i want to apply all changes to the source and build it to test it
[09:51] <Hobbsee> $%^&%&^*
[09:52] <Hobbsee> why oh why must launchpad search be borked again???
[09:52] <dholbach> cbx33: what do you want to do exactly?
[09:52] <cbx33> well i'm working on an issue, but when i build the package from the source dir to ompare against my installed versions they behave differently
[09:52] <cbx33> I've just applied all the patches and it's still doing the same
[09:52] <cbx33> what am i doing wrong :p
[09:53] <dholbach> I still don't understand, sorry
[09:53] <cbx33> ok....I've apt-get installed a package
[09:53] <dholbach> you build a package and apply its patches against it and you build it and it does the same
[09:53] <cbx33> ran the binary with no options and I get one help message
[09:53] <dholbach> that's expected, no?
[09:54] <cbx33> if i then download the source...apply all patches
[09:54] <cbx33> and build that source
[09:54] <cbx33> and run it with no options
[09:54] <cbx33> i get a diferent message
[09:55] <cbx33> does that make sense? or am i going mad?
[09:55] <dholbach> if you run       debuild         to build the package, you don'T have to manually apply patches
[09:55] <cbx33> ok
[09:55] <dholbach> that's done automatically
[09:55] <cbx33> ok
[09:55] <cbx33> trying now
[09:56] <dholbach> so after rebuilding a package, it's behaving differently - is that what you're trying?
[09:56] <cbx33> yes
[09:56] <cbx33> and I've made no changes
[09:57] <dholbach> are the changes desirable? :)
[09:57] <cbx33> no
[09:57] <cbx33> :p
[09:57] <cbx33> i think it must be some kind of envrionment setting...or something
[09:57] <dholbach> well then investigate what in the build-dependency chain changed :)
[09:57] <cbx33> indeed i shall
[09:57] <cbx33> grr this one is driving me nuts
[09:59] <mitsuhiko> ogra_ibook: around?
[09:59] <cbx33> they two binaries are definitely different
[09:59] <mitsuhiko> hi all btw
[09:59] <Hobbsee> hi mitsuhiko
[10:00] <cbx33> ok they are different
[10:00] <cbx33> the binary pacakge doesn't seem to have been created from the current source pacakge
[11:03] <imbrandon> i got a few questions if anyone is awake ...
[11:03] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: people are usually awake.  whether they know the answers is a different question
[11:05] <imbrandon> heh ok here go's ( long story shory i'm not a linux newb but a newb to submitting stuff to MOTU ) and I have a bug fix for https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kbfx/+bug/38226 and would like to also know about maintaing it in the future , what i need to go about doing to submit it etc
[11:05] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 38226 in kbfx "kbfx control panel crashes" [Normal,Confirmed] 
[11:06] <Hobbsee> jpatrick currently maintains it.  you can certainly submit the patch...
[11:07] <imbrandon> ahh nice ok, waseent sure how to find the maintainer or if there was one etc
[11:07] <Hobbsee> use the "add attachment" link on the launchpad
[11:07] <Hobbsee> maintainer is on the left of that page, just over half way down
[11:07] <Hobbsee> Maintainer: Jonathan Patrick Davies
[11:07] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: see https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-motu/2006-February/000545.html for more info
[11:08] <imbrandon> ahhh ok , i see now, like i said kinda newb ;) i'm a long time linux user and programer but new to ubuntu ( only 6 or so months ) but glad there are easy ways to contribute ;)
[11:08] <Hobbsee> if the patch works, it'd be great to have it
[11:08] <imbrandon> ;) tell him it will be on the way shortly , just need to look it over one last time etc ;)
[11:09] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: he's coming
[11:09] <imbrandon> ahh nice lol that was FAST lol
[11:09] <Hobbsee> hehe
[11:09] <jpatrick> morning
[11:09] <imbrandon> morning ;)
[11:09] <Hobbsee> jpatrick: http://pastebin.com/657241
[11:09] <imbrandon> one sec lemme grab another cup of java
[11:10] <Hobbsee> (previous chat log)
[11:11] <jpatrick> read it
[11:11] <Hobbsee> cool :)
[11:12] <imbrandon> kk back
[11:13] <jpatrick> Hobbsee: it's a major bug, so i think we can upload without uvf thingies
[11:13] <Hobbsee> ah ok
[11:13] <imbrandon> morning jpatrick, basicly what i've found is that the 0.4.8.2 sources work great ( no crash ) so i patched in them to the ubuntu 4.8.0 sources and packaged it up
[11:14] <imbrandon> BUT i'm new to the MOTU stuff etc ;) so i came for guidance about submiting the patch and further ubuntu maintaining the kbfx stuff
[11:14] <jpatrick> imbrandon: attach the patch and I'll test it then upload. :)
[11:14] <imbrandon> k gimme about 5 or 10 min
[11:29] <imbrandon> ok its uploading now jpatrick
[11:30] <imbrandon> k uploaded
[11:31] <jpatrick> that is one big patch
[11:31] <imbrandon> it patched the new artwork from kbfx cvs too ;(
[11:32] <jpatrick> and it has some binary data in it too
[11:32] <imbrandon> yea i was trying to get rid of the artwork, i can redo it one sec if you like
[11:32] <jpatrick> ok
[11:33] <imbrandon> gimme about 2 more min to del all the new png's
[11:33] <imbrandon> they arent needed anyhow lol
[11:34] <jpatrick> :)
[11:51] <jpatrick> hi slomo, tuxmaniac
[11:51] <slomo> hi jpatrick
[11:52] <tuxmaniac> jpatrick: Hi
[11:52] <imbrandon> hehe ok much better down to 128kb jpatrick
[11:52] <imbrandon> reuploaded with no patch for the new images
[11:54] <jpatrick> imbrandon: /root/kbfx0490/kbfxspinx/.kbfx_vista_button.h.swp looks funky
[11:54] <imbrandon> k one sec
[11:58] <imbrandon> hmmm thats how it looks in cvs too but it builds fine without it, i bet its from one of the developers closed vim too soon and created a .swp file
[11:58] <imbrandon> and it got uploaded to cvs
[11:59] <imbrandon> "b0VIM 6.3^@^" is from the begining of it
[11:59] <imbrandon> is why i say vim , i use nano myself
[11:59] <imbrandon> brb one sec, coffee time
[12:02] <Toadstool> hi all
[12:02] <imbrandon> hello
[12:11] <imbrandon> that help at all jpatrick ? *newb hopes*
[12:11] <jpatrick> I'll remove the .swp file
[12:12] <imbrandon> k
[12:13] <imbrandon> yea i did and it dident seem to have an effect, like i said must have been left over from a vim crash
[12:13] <jpatrick> I can't seem to modify the diff
[12:13] <jpatrick> odd
[12:13] <imbrandon> ?
[12:14] <imbrandon> hmmm nano/kwrite etc ?
[12:14] <imbrandon> perms mabe its chownd to me
[12:14] <jpatrick> I can with nano but not kate
[12:14] <imbrandon> odd
[12:15] <imbrandon> brb
[12:32] <jpatrick> imbrandon: polishing patch
[12:38] <imbrandon> ;)
[12:47] <jpatrick> imbrandon: building
[12:49] <jpatrick> Trying patch debian/patches/kubuntu_01_kbfx.diff at level 0...1...2...failure.
[12:50] <imbrandon> ouch
[12:50] <jpatrick> maybe it's because it's against kbfx-0.4.8.2?
[12:50] <imbrandon> might be, i'm trying to rebuild it too now
[12:51] <jpatrick> because kbfx-0.4.8 is the one in the archives
[12:52] <imbrandon> ahhhh yea shiznit, i just realized that
[12:52] <jpatrick> :(
[12:52] <imbrandon> ok leme go back, heh anyway to delete those patches and let me make a new one ( on the bugtracker )
[12:52] <ajmitch> evening
[12:53] <jpatrick> afternoond ajmitch
[12:53] <jpatrick> imbrandon: I did like the look of the patch
[12:55] <imbrandon> ;) wont take be but just a few minutes to make up a new ( hopefulle correct one )
[12:55] <Hobbsee> hi ajmitch
[12:55] <Hobbsee> welcome to the holidays!
[12:57] <ajmitch> heh :)
[12:57] <ajmitch> hey Hobbsee
[12:57] <ajmitch> how's it going?
[12:57] <Hobbsee> i'm okay :)  fixed my assignment (*curses at bug she didnt see before, in the background*)
[12:57] <Hobbsee> it's now ready for checkpoint 2, to point out any other major bugs...
[12:58] <ajmitch> great
[12:58] <Hobbsee> didnt crash in the masses of rain, or get terminally lost...
[12:59] <Hobbsee> girls arent good at direction you know lol - particularly when it's raining so hard that it's almost impossible to see the street signs!
[01:00] <ajmitch> hah
[01:00] <ajmitch> thankfully it's been a nice day here :)
[01:01] <Hobbsee> :)
[01:07] <imbrandon> ok jpatrick I grabed new CLEAN kbfx source from the deb-src respo and dif a diff against it excluding the xpm images
[01:07] <imbrandon> uploaded and ready
[01:09] <Goshawk__> hi
[01:09] <Goshawk__> i've a problem packaging a program for ubuntu dapper, can i ask here?
[01:09] <jpatrick> yes
[01:09] <Goshawk__> i've a problem with a package. A package X depends from package Y. But i'm going to package a program Z that substitutes Y. So i wanna make a package Z that is compatible with the X package. is there a way to do this?
[01:10] <jpatrick> imbrandon: loads of png's
[01:10] <Hobbsee> Goshawk__: you make package Z have a conflicts: package Y, and have package X depending on package Z, instead of package Y, dont you?
[01:11] <Goshawk__> yep
[01:11] <Goshawk__> that is the problem
[01:12] <imbrandon> grrr coffee time , i took only the xpm's out not png's
[01:13] <imbrandon> k jpatrick gimme a few, i'm glad your being patient with me
[01:13] <jpatrick> anything to fix that bug
[01:26] <tman> hi, I've just packed a package, how do i submit it to revu using dput?
[01:26] <tman> i dont have any source.changes files :(
[01:27] <jpatrick> did you use the -S -sa flags?
[01:28] <tman> yep  dpkg-buildpackage -S -sa -rfakeroot
[01:28] <tman> but the package was already bult :s
[01:28] <tman> with dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot
[01:29] <tman> and then I ran dpkg-buildpackage -S -sa -rfakeroot
[01:30] <jpatrick> :/
[01:32] <imbrandon> ko jpatrick patch ( take 2 ) uploaded
[01:33] <imbrandon> i went through it with nano this time to make sure no xpms or pngs lol
[01:34] <tman> well, I did a debuild -S -sa and now I got the source.changes subtitleeditor_0.7.2-0ubuntu1_source.changes
[01:34] <tman> but I got this message as well :s
[01:34] <tman> E: subtitleeditor source: package-uses-debhelper-but-lacks-build-depends
[01:34] <tman> W: subtitleeditor source: dh-make-template-in-source debian/cron.d.ex
[01:34] <tman> W: subtitleeditor source: dh-make-template-in-source debian/menu.ex
[01:34] <tman> W: subtitleeditor source: dh-make-template-in-source debian/watch.ex
[01:34] <tman> W: subtitleeditor source: dh-make-template-in-source debian/subtitleeditor-default.ex
[01:34] <tman> W: subtitleeditor source: dh-make-template-in-source debian/subtitleeditor.doc-base.EX
[01:34] <tman> W: subtitleeditor source: dh-make-template-in-source debian/conffiles.ex
[01:34] <tman> W: subtitleeditor source: dh-make-template-in-source debian/manpage.1.ex
[01:34] <tman> W: subtitleeditor source: dh-make-template-in-source debian/manpage.sgml.ex
[01:34] <jpatrick> flood...
[01:34] <tman> W: subtitleeditor source: dh-make-template-in-source debian/manpage.xml.ex
[01:34] <tman> W: subtitleeditor source: native-package-with-dash-version
[01:34] <tman> W: subtitleeditor source: maintainer-not-full-name chantra
[01:34] <tman> so I wonder if the source.changes is right :s
[01:35] <jpatrick> rm debian/*.ex
[01:35] <tman> jpatrick: sorry for the flood
[01:36] <tman> so, if I wan't to submit the package, do I only have to dput *_source.changes ?
[01:36] <tman> there is nothing in it :s
[01:37] <tman> well, got to go, will gie another try later on
[01:37] <jpatrick> sign it with your key
[01:37] <tman> how?
[01:37] <jpatrick> imbrandon: building ( take 2 )
[01:37] <jpatrick> -kYOURKEY
[01:38] <tman> ?
[01:38] <imbrandon> k coffee break afk 5 min
[01:38] <jpatrick> tman: do you have a gpg key?
[01:38] <tman> yep
[01:39] <jpatrick> debuild -S -sa -k$(keynumber)
[01:40] <tman> okie done
[01:40] <tman> Uploading via ftp subtitleeditor_0.7.2-0ubuntu1.dsc: done.
[01:40] <tman> Uploading via ftp subtitleeditor_0.7.2-0ubuntu1.tar.gz:
[01:40] <tman> :)
[01:40] <jpatrick> imbrandon: messy http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/657452
[01:40] <tman> jpatrick: thanks for your help
[01:40] <imbrandon> *looks*
[01:41] <jpatrick> not sure what happened there..
[01:41] <imbrandon> whoa
[01:41] <tman> what should I expect then, a mail from the motu?
[01:41] <imbrandon> hmmm
[01:41] <jpatrick> imbrandon: where can i get the 0.4.8.2 tarball?
[01:41] <imbrandon> one sec
[01:41] <jpatrick> tman: get someone to revu it
[01:42] <tman> :)
[01:42] <tman> do they mail you back then?
[01:42] <jpatrick> no
[01:42] <jpatrick> it goes on the site
[01:42] <tman> to tell what os wrong
[01:42] <tman> okie
[01:42] <tman> got to go, cheers again
[01:44] <imbrandon> http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/kbfx/kbfx-0.4.8.2.tar.bz2?download
[01:45] <imbrandon> 4.8.2 compile and works fine one 4 of my ubuntu machines ( 3 run dapper )
[01:45] <imbrandon> one == on
[01:45] <imbrandon> all i386 though, no way to test other arch
[01:46] <imbrandon> http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=141258
[01:51] <selinium> Hi all, is there a metapackage to install a packaging environment?
[01:52] <jpatrick> dpkg-dev
[01:52] <jpatrick> imbrandon: take 3
[01:53] <imbrandon> hehe ( not funny really )
[01:53] <jpatrick> :) sorry
[01:53] <imbrandon> i hope its not 7am there for you ;)
[01:54] <imbrandon> no problems for me, i just wanna see kbfx working ;)
[01:54] <imbrandon> i'm glad someone got it into dapper
[01:56] <jpatrick> you a dev?
[01:56] <imbrandon> trying to be, actualy it seems no one else is working on it but me
[01:56] <imbrandon> everyone else from the project is mia
[01:57] <imbrandon> but no i dont do it for a living but i've been working on kbfx for like 3 months now and ubuntu for about 6
[01:58] <imbrandon> more used to cvs than diff though ;)
[01:58] <jpatrick> thing keeps failing.........
[01:58] <jpatrick> can't I package the cvs? :)
[01:59] <imbrandon> damm hmm can you build just the 8.2 tarbal ?
[01:59] <imbrandon> sure
[01:59] <imbrandon> cvs is what i'm working with, everything i have is commited to cvs
[01:59] <jpatrick> great
[02:00] <imbrandon> *thought you would never ask*
[02:00] <imbrandon> lol
[02:00] <jpatrick> :)
[02:02] <jpatrick> never worked with cvs
[02:02] <jpatrick> now it's downloading
[02:03] <imbrandon> ahh cvs ( or svn ) is NICE
[02:03] <imbrandon> very very helpfull to large projects with devs from all over
[02:03] <jpatrick> SVN I know
[02:03] <jpatrick> there's nothing in src/
[02:03] <imbrandon> svn == newer cvs
[02:03] <lifeless> imbrandon: CVS is very _not_ nice:O
[02:04] <imbrandon> cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/kbfx co -P kbfx0490
[02:04] <imbrandon> lifeless: hehe well its been nice to me but svn is good too
[02:05] <jpatrick> that's better :)
[02:05] <imbrandon> actualy i like svn better but cvs has been arround for ages
[02:05] <azeem> imbrandon: this is the bzr-fanboy chan
[02:05] <imbrandon> bzr?
[02:06] <azeem> http://bazaar-vcs.org/
[02:06] <jpatrick> bazaar
[02:06] <imbrandon> ahhh never used it will have to check it out
[02:06] <zerokarmaleft> imbrandon: basically every checkout is treated as a branch, iirc
[02:07] <imbrandon> brb time to make more coffee
[02:25] <jpatrick> imbrandon: does it really need automake.1.6 ?
[02:25] <imbrandon> no just automake 1.6+
[02:25] <imbrandon> i use 1.9
[02:25] <jpatrick> doesn't work with 1.9
[02:26] <imbrandon> ahhh yea i symlinked it, you can edit the makefile
[02:26] <jpatrick> ** YOU'RE USING automake (GNU automake) 1.9.6
[02:26] <imbrandon> it shouldent make a diff
[02:26] <imbrandon> one sec
[02:26] <Tm_T> jpatrick: ?
[02:26] <jpatrick> Tm_T: what it says
[02:27] <Tm_T> 15:25 < jpatrick> doesn't work with 1.9
[02:27] <jpatrick> automake1.9
[02:27] <Tm_T> jpatrick: I haven't seen the error yet ;)
[02:27] <imbrandon> In order to make it work with another automake version (1.9.* in the example) you have to edit the cvs.sh under the admin folder... there look for the "AUTOMAKE_STRING" and modify the following section as follows:
[02:27] <imbrandon> automake*1.6.* | automake*1.7.* | automake*1.8.* | automake*1.9.* ) : ;;
[02:28] <jpatrick> Tm_T: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/657505 you happy now?
[02:28] <imbrandon> as long as its 1.6 or above
[02:28] <Tm_T> jpatrick: I'm always happy ;)
[02:29] <imbrandon> ;)
[02:29] <jpatrick> imbrandon: line 67?
[02:29] <imbrandon> should be
[02:30] <Tm_T> jpatrick: haha, somewhat stupid your error is ;)
[02:42] <jpatrick> imbrandon: appears to work now
[02:44] <imbrandon> sweet
[02:46] <Tm_T> well done, kids ;)
[02:52] <imbrandon> ok i'm off to sleep for a few hours
[02:52] <jpatrick> imbrandon: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/dapper-changes/2006-April/009310.html
[02:52] <imbrandon> i'll be back a little later
[02:52] <imbrandon> *waits*
[02:52] <imbrandon> woot
[02:52] <imbrandon> thanks jpatrick
[02:53] <jpatrick> thank you
[02:53] <imbrandon> np i'm going to update it from the respo then head to sleep for a few hours ;) i'll be back this eve
[03:08] <truz24> Were any fonts changed for firefox?  Since one of the recent updates, my fonts look different...
[03:27] <bddebian> Heya Gang
[03:29] <jpatrick> hey
[05:40] <LaserJock> bddebian: around?
[05:40] <bddebian> Yo
[05:41] <LaserJock> tyvis and saoimage are removed ;-)
[05:41] <bddebian> LaserJock: "great" thanks :-)
[05:41] <LaserJock> and I even got one added yesterday
[05:42] <bddebian> Nice
[05:42] <LaserJock> I have 2 more to go
[05:42] <bddebian> LaserJock: You have any time?
[05:43] <LaserJock> bddebian: sure, what's up?
[05:44] <bddebian> LaserJock: I uploaded ygraph but apparently it FTBFSs on all archs.  I think it may just need a autoreconf or whatever but all my machines are tied up :-(
[05:45] <Yagisan> w00t. I broke bzip2 by rebuilding with a newer gcc
[05:45] <LaserJock> bddebian: ok, I'm not sure how to autoreconf stuff but I do have a machine available
[05:45] <bddebian> Yagisan: Nice :-)
[05:46] <LaserJock> Yagisan: does gunzip work?
[05:46] <Yagisan> bddebian: yeah. I get this cool error "/usr/bin/ld: bzip2: hidden symbol `__stack_chk_fail_local' in /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.1.0/../../../../lib32/libssp_nonshared.a(libssp_nonshared_la-ssp-local.o) is referenced by DSO" followed by
[05:47] <Yagisan> bddebian: "/usr/bin/ld: final link failed: Nonrepresentable section on output"
[05:47] <bddebian> w00t
[05:47] <Yagisan> LaserJock: havent tried it yet
[05:49] <LaserJock> bddebian: dang it, I went tried to reject the tyvis bug but it said it has already been rejected ;-)
[05:49] <bddebian> LaserJock: Sorry man :-)
[05:49] <bddebian> Just trying to "clean up" :_)
[05:49] <LaserJock> bddebian: how am I supposed to get any karma when you beat me to everything ;p
[05:50] <bddebian> You could actually "fix" something
[05:50] <LaserJock> doh
[05:50] <bddebian> :-)
[05:50] <bddebian> j/k
[05:50] <bddebian> Sorry, I won't do that again
[05:50] <LaserJock> well, I think I'm pretty much done with the packaging guide for now, so I think I can help
[05:50] <Yagisan> LaserJock: well, if you could, I'd like to actually be able to print in dapper
[05:51] <Yagisan> LaserJock: I'm sure that would get you lots of karma
[05:51] <LaserJock> Yagisan: I'd love to but I wouldn't be able to test anything and I have 57 bugs to work on right now as it is ;-)
[05:52] <bddebian> LaserJock: 57 bugs?
[05:52] <Yagisan> LaserJock: that's ok. I think gs-esp is main's problem anyway
[05:53] <LaserJock> bddebian: https://launchpad.net/people/motuscience/+subscribedbugs
[05:53] <bddebian> Oh yeah, that list...
[05:54] <LaserJock> first I'm going to get 2 NEW packages while I still can and then I'll work on the bugs
[05:58] <sivang> anybody here for a quick review, and sponsered upload to universe of HUB?
[05:58] <hub> what is HUB?
[05:58] <sivang> http://muse.19inch.net/~sivan/HUB/
[05:58] <sivang> hub: heh
[05:58] <hub> I thought that somebody was ringing me
[05:59] <hub> sivang: did you upload it to REVU?
[06:01] <sivang> hub: not yet, I was thinking of having someone review it ASAP :-) I need it in the repo as fast as can be, so people will start bombard me with bugspam :)
[06:01] <hub> sivang: FF
[06:01] <hub> sivang: REVU is the good place to have it review
[06:02] <hub> upload it there a bug a MOTU to review it
[06:02] <hub> bug given that universe is in FF, I wouldn't hold my breath
[06:02] <sivang> I have approval from mdz to upload it to universe when it's presentable to users, which is now
[06:03] <Yagisan> but if you do hold your breath, it may be a new Guinness World Record
[06:03] <sivang> although I'll ask him again just to make sure
[06:03] <sivang> Yagisan: AH AH AH
[06:06] <sivang> hub: are you approved for uploading to universe?
[06:07] <hub> sivang: I'm a MOTU
[06:07] <hub> but we are on FF, so I won't upload new things
[06:07] <sivang> hub: cool, could you please upload it to REVU on my behalf?
[06:07] <hub> and any new package has to be approved by at least 3 MOTU
[06:08] <hub> sivang: you can upload to REVU yourself
[06:08] <jpatrick> hub: err, two
[06:08] <hub> jpatrick: I thought is was 3
[06:09] <Yagisan> hub: used to be
[06:09] <hub> okay
[06:10] <sivang> hub: okay
[06:13] <sivang> hub: who is approving FF exceptions ?
[06:22] <bddebian> w00t :-)
[06:30] <LaserJock> arggh, stupid fire alarm. Power went out at school
[06:31] <LaserJock> heh, ever lost all the data they were collecting but I have my iMac on a UPS ;-)
[06:31] <LaserJock> s/ever/everybody/
[06:32] <bddebian> heh
[06:33] <mitsuhiko> ogra: ping :(
[06:39] <ogra> mitsuhiko, just bzr get the source from  http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/bzr-archive/hwdb-client/
[06:39] <ogra> mitsuhiko, there is no server side part, feel free to build one
[06:39] <mitsuhiko> jep
[06:39] <mitsuhiko> i will do :)
[06:40] <mitsuhiko> i would like to improve the client and write a server software for it :)
[06:46] <sivang> ogra: can you get dholbach and together arrange a review board for the first upload of HUB ?:)
[06:47] <ogra> sivang, but not today anymore ... i'm about to leave
[06:47] <LaserJock> bddebian: what is up with cernlib?
[06:47] <dholbach> sivang: same here
[06:47] <bddebian> LaserJock: kxterm and paw++ desktop files.  I can't get them in the damn .deb files :-(
[06:48] <LaserJock> bddebian: k
[06:48] <sivang> ogra, dholbach : okay, can we make it a date for tomorrow? :)
[06:49] <dholbach> sivang: send me a mail and i'll look at it
[06:49] <sivang> dholbach: you're my hero!!
[06:49] <dholbach> (a mail with the url and stuff)
[06:49] <sivang> dholbach: sure, will do it now
[06:49] <dholbach> thanks
[06:49] <sivang> dholbach: thank you!
[06:55] <sivang> dholbach: sent
[06:55] <sivang> dholbach: still missing icons for the menu, but I am working on it
[06:56] <sivang> dholbach: (the deskop/administration menu from the panel, that is)
[08:15] <ivoks> hi
[08:15] <ivoks> um... i'm fixing one bug in bacula...
[08:15] <Yagisan> G'day ivoks
[08:15] <ivoks> i noticed it builds against libmysqlclient14, but works on mysql-5
[08:15] <ivoks> should i try building it againt 15off?
[08:16] <Yagisan> ivoks: dumb question, either of those mysql in main ?
[08:16] <ivoks> mysql is irrelevant
[08:16] <ivoks> libmysqlclient is what i'm asking about
[08:17] <Yagisan> ivoks: if it was me, I'd want to build agains the one that gets better security support
[08:17] <ivoks> Yagisan: yeah, but i'll have to see if it builds at all
[08:18] <Yagisan> ivoks: give it a try
[08:19] <ivoks> yeah... will do
[08:20] <Yagisan> ivoks: what's the worst that could happen ?
[08:21] <ivoks> worst? broken bacula in dapper :)
[08:22] <ivoks> but i'll make sure that doesn't happen :)
[08:23] <Yagisan> ivoks: actually I was thinking FTBFS. I've been getting a few of those today while I scratch my particular itch
[08:24] <ivoks> well, it's FTBS with libmysqlclient14
[08:24] <ivoks> and that makes me think :)
[08:25] <Yagisan> ivoks: I'd try 15 then
[08:25] <ivoks> allready running
[08:25] <ivoks> damn... same thing
[08:25] <ivoks> urgh... this will be a long night
[08:25] <Yagisan> w00t. gzip works too
[08:28] <ivoks> i have to grab something to eat :/
[08:29] <tman> hi
[08:34] <cbx33> hi all
[08:34] <cbx33> how many versions of the kill binary are there?
[08:35] <bddebian> Heya cbx33
[08:35] <tman> hi, I've uploaded a package 10 hours ago, i don't see it on revu.tauware.de is this normal
[08:35] <tman> did I forget something (like getting my key signed :s )
[08:35] <cbx33> hi bddebian
[08:35] <bddebian> Uhm, that would do it :-)
[08:36] <cbx33> i have a source package that i don't think matches the binary package
[08:38] <cbx33> anyway to confirm this?
[08:39] <Yagisan> bddebian: tired of having your system "just work", want all the excitement of possible breakage, want endless hours of fun chasing down obscure bugs ? I have just the thing for you to test :)
[08:39] <bddebian> Uh oh
[08:39] <bddebian> cbx33: ??
[08:40] <tman> if the key is not signed, can a package be uploaded, or is it automatically rejected?
[08:40] <cbx33> bddebian, i donloaded a source package
[08:40] <cbx33> did a debuild
[08:41] <cbx33> and one of the binaries produced
[08:41] <cbx33> differed from the apt-get install i did earlier
[08:41] <Yagisan> bddebian: don't worry, it's unlikely you will need to reinstall (I hope)
[08:43] <Yagisan> bddebian: you'd like a more secure system, wouldn't you ?
[08:55] <cbx33> anyone got any clue about the problem i posed?
[08:55] <cbx33> sorry for keeping on with this one guys
[08:57] <azeem> cbx33: can you rephrase it?
[08:57] <azeem> how different?
[08:57] <cbx33> the binaries are different sizes
[08:58] <azeem> how much?
[08:58] <cbx33> and the usage message is very different
[08:58] <cbx33> about 500 bytes
[08:58] <cbx33> or so
[08:58] <azeem> the usage message?
[08:58] <bddebian> Yagisan: Sorry, man work crap.. :-(
[08:58] <cbx33> yeh
[08:58] <cbx33> how to use the binary
[08:58] <cbx33> since my bug is to do with that
[08:58] <cbx33> a missing or over documented option
[08:58] <ivoks> blah... bacula is seriously FTBS
[08:58] <bddebian> sudo dpkg -i <whatever>.deb :)
[08:59] <ivoks> we might need a new version :/
[08:59] <ivoks> oh, there is no new ver in debian :/
[09:00] <cbx33> how many packages provide the kill binary??
[09:00] <Yagisan> ivoks: why FTBFS ?
[09:01] <bddebian> cbx33: Try packages.debian.org or packages.ubuntu.org  and look at file contained in packages..
[09:01] <ivoks> bad packaging
[09:01] <ivoks> interesting
[09:01] <ivoks> new bacula 1.38 is out since 2006-01-19
[09:01] <ivoks> and we still have old one
[09:01] <ivoks> and there are dramatic changes
[09:02] <ivoks> Yagisan: strip: 'src/stored/bscan': No such file :)
[09:02] <ivoks> it can be fixed
[09:02] <ivoks> i'll contact debian maintaner to see if he has plans of uploading new version
[09:02] <ivoks> and ask for UVF exception for it
[09:03] <Yagisan> ugh. zlib uses dbs. How am I supposed to make a patch for this ?
[09:04] <ivoks> omg!
[09:05] <ivoks> bacula isn't maintained for a year in debian
[09:05] <ivoks> urghhhhh
[09:06] <Yagisan> ivoks: congrats. You are the new maintainer! (actually, as bacula is very useful, someone should really give it some love)
[09:06] <ivoks> yeah, i use it on lots of locations
[09:06] <ivoks> i'll do it
[09:07] <ivoks> urgh... i hope i know what i'm doing :)
[09:07] <ivoks> this isn't easy slice of software :/
[09:10] <tman> hi , after uploading a package, I don't see it in http://revu.tauware.de/ , is this normal?
[09:10] <Yagisan> tman: takes 5-10 minutes usually
[09:13] <tman> arf, I submitted the package few hours ago,
[09:13] <tman> but at the time, i didn't make my key signed, would it be a reason?
[09:14] <tman> is it required to have a key signed to upload to revu
[09:15] <bddebian> yes
[09:15] <Yagisan> tman: I don't think so. But it only takes source only uploads
[09:15] <bddebian> ivoks: But it's still in Debian?
[09:15] <Yagisan> bddebian: probably QA maintainer
[09:16] <bddebian> Ah
[09:16] <bddebian> ivoks: What's the build error?
[09:18] <tman> Yagisan: so, if i created a .deb package, and want to add it to revu, I just need to dput -P *_source.changes
[09:18] <tman> and then it should be uploaded, right? how to I follow evolution of the package ?
[09:18] <bddebian> tman: You want to do a dpkg-buildpackage or debuild -S, then yes, dput revu <pkg>.changes
[09:19] <ivoks> bddebian:
[09:19] <ivoks> mv: cannot stat `src/stored/bscan': No such file or directory
[09:19] <ivoks> mv: cannot stat `src/stored/bcopy': No such file or directory
[09:19] <ivoks> bddebian: anyway, i think i can fix it
[09:19] <ivoks> bddebian: but we have to include new version ASAP
[09:19] <ivoks> it has lots of bugs fixed and important fatures
[09:20] <bddebian> ivoks: Cool.  There's a new upstream version?
[09:20] <ivoks> even configuration isn't the same any more
[09:20] <ivoks> bddebian: yeah, for a 7-8 months allready :)
[09:22] <Yagisan> anyone know if dbs-edit-patch is busted ?
[09:26] <tman> bddebian: yep, this is what i did
[09:27] <tman> I don't really get on to retrieve password from revu.tauware.de
[09:27] <tman> after doing as it is said on the web page for recovering password, I dont get anything displayed :s
[09:28] <tman> doing gpg -d <<<EOT .......
[09:29] <bddebian> ivoks: What a surprise.. :_)
[09:29] <bddebian> Yagisan: dbs-edit-patch?
[09:29] <ivoks> bddebian: :) check out: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=337250
[09:29] <Ubugtu> Debian bug 337250 in bacula "Subject: bacula: FTBFS: 'src/stored/bscan': No such file" [Serious,Open] 
[09:29] <ivoks> guy is alive
[09:31] <bddebian> ivoks: Yeah, well barely apparently :-)
[09:32] <Yagisan> bddebian: from the dbs patch system
[09:32] <ivoks> look what guy did in building rules
[09:32] <ivoks> 2>&1 >/dev/null on make
[09:32] <ivoks> what an... uh!
[09:32] <bddebian> I saw that in the bug report.  WTF is that?
[09:32] <ivoks> how can i debug...
[09:32] <ivoks> he's redirecting errors in /dev/null
[09:33] <ivoks> so you can't find them :)
[09:33] <Amaranth> grr
[09:35] <tman> could anyone help me out with the recovering from revu.tauware.de
[09:36] <tman> pls, I can seem to make the gpg -d thingy to work :s
[09:41] <ivoks> :)
[09:42] <Yagisan> ivoks: all I want to do is a f*cking 1 line change to a makefile, and the damm thing won't let me
[09:42] <bddebian> tman: Are you getting the gpg message when you hit recover?
[09:42] <tman> yep
[09:43] <tman> bddebian: but when decrypting, entering my keypass, i don't seem to get anything
[09:43] <bddebian> The output is ugly.  Alot of times the password just shows up right next to the cursor prompt so it's hard to see it :-)
[09:43] <ivoks> Yagisan: does it have to be dbs?
[09:43] <tman> I have to paste from ----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE to END PGP MESSAGE----- aint I?
[09:44] <bddebian> Yes
[09:44] <ivoks> with those lines
[09:44] <Yagisan> ivoks: yes. that is what zlib uses. I just want to delete one small section that says CC=cc
[09:44] <ivoks> lol
[09:44] <ivoks> but why, we have cc
[09:45] <tman> bddebian: I just get None :(
[09:45] <tman> and it is not my pass :s
[09:46] <ivoks> eh! it builds! woahahahahahaha
[09:46] <bddebian> ivoks: Rock on man
[09:47] <ivoks> but we should really consider new bacula for dapper
[09:47] <ivoks> this one is sooooo outdated
[09:47] <bddebian> ivoks: You going to maintain it? ;-)
[09:47] <ivoks> nope... it looks like DD will :)
[09:47] <Yagisan> ivoks: because, it is overriding the gcc I'm specifying. And as the old gcc does not support the flag I'm using, it craps out on build.
[09:47] <tman> bddebian: after pasting the text, it tells me You need a passphrase to unlock the secret key for
[09:47] <ivoks> Yagisan: I tought that could be a problem
[09:48] <tman> I do enter it correct then I get garbage like
[09:48] <tman> user: "blalbal blla "
[09:49] <tman> and then tells me stories about key ID, my key username ...
[09:49] <tman>  but no pass aroud :s
[09:50] <tman> is there something I'm missing?
[09:50] <bddebian> tman: Yes, do you enter your gpg passphrase?
[09:50] <tman> yep
[09:50] <tman> bddebian: and it is right, as it don't through up error
[09:54] <bddebian> Do you get something like user: "First Last <foo@bar.com>"
[09:54] <bddebian> Then gpg: Encrypted with ....
[09:58] <bddebian> tman: ^ ??
[10:05] <tman> sorry bddebian
[10:06] <tman> bddebian: yes, I do get "first last <email>"
[10:06] <tman> gpg: encrypted with ...
[10:08] <tman> and then I get a for char word which is not my pass :s, and this is not my
[10:10] <bddebian> tman: It should be your password.  If not something else is broken
[10:11] <tman> login is email address isn't it
[10:12] <bddebian> yes
[10:12] <tman> bddebian: the ubuntu dev guide says that once you uploaded a package, you are automatically added to revu
[10:13] <tman> I'm starting to onder if I'm added to it :s
[10:14] <Yagisan> tman: ah, have you ever requested access to revu ?
[10:14] <tman> if I want to reupload the package, I get
[10:14] <tman> Upload package to host revu
[10:14] <tman> Already uploaded to revu.tauware.de
[10:14] <tman> Yagisan: nope
[10:15] <Yagisan> tman: you may not be on the list of authorised uploaders then
[10:15] <tman> arf
[10:15] <tman> but doing a dput *_source.changes tells me
[10:16] <tman> that it is already uploaded, how can I know the process of the package
[10:16] <Yagisan> tman: it will take the upload, but it will need to be manually processed by an admin
[10:16] <tman> moreover, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/REVU?action=show&redirect=REVU says:
[10:16] <Yagisan> tman: iirc siretart and ajmitch are admins
[10:16] <tman> After your first upload, you will be automatically registered to the database and assigned a random password.
[10:16] <tman> Use the email address you used in the changelog file of your upload as login and press the
[10:17] <tman> 'recover password' link, so as to receive your password by email.
[10:17] <tman> never received any emails :s
[10:17] <tman> Yagisan: do you reckon I should pm them ?
[10:18] <tman> I basically, will like to know where the packages processing is at :)
[10:19] <Yagisan> tman: well, siretart is on holidays, and ajmitch should still be in bed (actually, so should I)
[10:19] <bddebian> I think I'm an admin but I can't remember my damn password :-(
[10:21] <tman> is it then possible to check the processing of  a package?
[10:22] <tman> quch as "in process", "to be processed" ....
[10:23] <Yagisan> tman: what is your package name ?
[10:24] <ajmitch> Yagisan: I am in bed :)
[10:24] <ajmitch> laptops are great
[10:24] <Yagisan> ajmitch: morning ! I've been making progress with my SSP work tonight/lastnight
[10:25] <ajmitch> morning Yagisan :)
[10:25] <ajmitch> great!
[10:25] <tseng> Yagisan: yay
[10:25] <Yagisan> just dbs is mocking me why I try to build zlib with SSP
[10:25] <Yagisan> s/shy/when
[10:26] <ajmitch> tman: is your gpg key in the uploaders' keyring for REVU?
[10:26] <ajmitch> tman: also, which package did you try & upload?
[10:28] <Yagisan> tseng: still uses the "ugly" libssp0-dev addition to build-deps though
[10:28] <tman> Yagisan: subtitleeditor
[10:29] <Yagisan> tman: rejected
[10:29] <tseng> i find it hard to believe he is in the keyring as ive never seen him before
[10:29] <tman> ajmitch: raphink did add it
[10:29] <tseng> oh, revu
[10:29] <tman> Yagisan: arf, who do we know the reason ...
[10:31] <Yagisan> tman: I don't know. I just ftpped into the incoming queue and checked rejected, and there it was. Did you sign the .changes file ?
[10:31] <tman> i guess
[10:32] <ajmitch> tman: I moved it back & it looks to have been accepted this time
[10:32] <ajmitch> not sure why it wouldn't go through the first time :)
[10:32] <bddebian> Heya ajmitch
[10:32] <tman> i did run dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot
[10:33] <ajmitch> hello bddebian
[10:33] <tman> and then debuild -S -sa
[10:33] <tseng> why do both
[10:33] <bddebian> Aye
[10:33] <tman> then dput *_source.change
[10:34] <tman> tseng: cause the first time I had no source.change
[10:35] <tman> ajmitch: thks, I see it in revu.tauware.de
[10:38] <tman> ajmitch: bddebian cool, I finnally retrieved my password :)
[10:38] <bddebian> excellent, what was it?
[10:38] <bddebian> the problem, not the password :-)
[10:39] <tman> bddebian: caus my upload got rejected in the first place
[10:39] <bddebian> Ahh
[10:39] <tman> ajmitch: moved it back and the package was accepted !?!
[10:40] <tman> therefore I was able to retrieve my password :)
[10:42] <Yagisan> ajmitch: feel like testing out some SSP enabled applications ?
[10:43] <bddebian> Damnit, what is the libglu1 thing now?
[10:49] <tman> bddebian: anf now, will I be informed of any comments ... by mail or should I check by time?
[10:50] <bddebian> tman: I believe they have added e-mail notifications but don't quote me on that :-)
[10:50] <cyberserver> Hi people. I tought I should tell this to someone, altough I'm not sure if it's a bug or not: I'm doing a net install of dapper (I've booted of a netinstall mini-cd) and, when installing/configuring packages dapper asked me what was my braille reader?!?
[10:51] <tman> bddebian: okie dokie, will check by time then ;)
[10:51] <tman> thnks for all :)
[10:51] <bddebian> NP
[10:53] <cyberserver> I'm pretty sure I havent chosen any option for sight-disabled, and its kind of strange of getting 1 package out of some 600 that were installed right now that asked question, while no other did
[10:58] <LaserJock> cyberserver: I got that message in my dist-upgrade today
[11:07] <Yagisan> tseng: I'm impressed with just how many apps FTBFS with ssp enabled
[11:25] <bddebian> See you in a bit folks
[11:26] <tseng> Yagisan: have you talked to anyone from gentoo
[11:29] <Yagisan> tseng: nope. I only had some time tonight to do some work, so I randomly picked 22 packages from all over dapper. So far 3 fails, 2 pass, and 17 to go
[11:30] <Yagisan> tseng: It may well be my own relative inexperience at packaging that may be the cause of the failures,
[11:35] <tseng> Yagisan: do you have logs for the failures
[11:40] <Yagisan> tseng: I can make pbuilder generate them
[11:49] <Yagisan> tseng: where would you like the logs ?
[11:50] <tseng> anywhere
[11:52] <mdke> there is a diff on https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gxine/+bug/39507 if someone fancies the easiest and fastest bug close ever. (is it still hug day?)
[11:53] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 39507 in gxine "HIG compliant menu entry" [Normal,Unconfirmed] 
[11:53] <Yagisan> tseng: they are in here http://eyagi.bpa.nu/~jamie/uf/
[11:54] <Yagisan> tseng: zlib should be because minizip sets it's own CC, and dbs-edit-patch failed to work as advertised
[11:54] <tseng> yeah
[11:54] <Yagisan> tseng: bzip2, I have no idea, and zip appears to not link
[11:54] <tseng> suck
[11:54] <tseng> so
[11:55] <tseng> alot of this is fucked up makefiles
[11:55] <Yagisan> tseng: basically, yes
[11:55] <tseng> which gentoo avoids
[11:55] <Yagisan> tseng: eg coreutils and gzip were good
[11:55] <tseng> adamantix goes for the hack and slash technique
[11:55] <tseng> you might steal from them
[11:55] <Yagisan> tseng: are they still at woody ?
[11:55] <tseng> hm
[11:55] <tseng> are they that behind?
[11:56] <Yagisan> tseng: when I last checked, yeah
[11:56] <tseng> wow
[11:56] <tseng> useless
[11:58] <Yagisan> tseng: they chose to stick with 2.4.x kernels, and yeah, they have a mention of backporting from sarge!
[12:01] <tseng> i havent worked on Hardened for over a year
[12:01] <tseng> anything i say is dated
[12:03] <Yagisan> tseng: and yet, probably more up to date then many of the sites I have to chose from
[12:03] <tseng> haha.
[12:03] <tseng> could be