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Chryseusinstall libxine-extracodecs12:05
Tm_TChryseus: straight to solution before prolem is revealed? =)12:06
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ChryseusTm_T: scroll back12:06
BambinoTm_T, ive been discussing this the last 10 min :P12:06
Tm_Taah =)12:06
HymnToLifeanyway, Dapper issues are on #ubuntu+112:06
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BambinoChryseus, thanks bick time mate.12:07
Bambinobig12:07
Tm_TChryseus: carry on pal ;)12:07
ChryseusBambino: np.. next time #ubuntu+1 with that dapepr :P12:07
Bambinok sry12:08
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MrKubuntuUserwould anybody here know of any Linux telnet clients (besides the included "telnet" program)?12:08
ChryseusMrKubuntuUser: well.. what's wrong with "telnet?"12:09
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ChryseusI don't think nobody bothers to make "any better" :P12:10
Bambinoisnt putty a telnet client? (or am i mistaking) ;)12:11
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ChryseusBambino: not entirely, it's able to use raw, telnet, rlogin and ssh protocols12:12
MrKubuntuUserChryseu:  I need a telnet client for use with Innovative INNOPAC.  INNOPAC uses VT102 printing stuff for printing to local printers, and that doesn't seem to work with "telnet"12:12
MrKubuntuUser*Chryseus12:13
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MrKubuntuUserChryseus:  or is ther a way to get "telnet" to work with local printing?12:15
ChryseusMrKubuntuUser: sry, don't know about that :(12:16
Chryseusmy printer doesn't even work with linux :P12:16
slow-motionn812:17
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MrKubuntuUserChryseus:  no driver?12:17
Chryseusnope.. stupid canon12:17
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beefsprocketanyone used exim4 and gmail as a relay?12:24
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Bennedettosorry, im back again, another quick question12:25
Bennedettoi was trying to restart the xserver, but i cant get it to start again12:26
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beefsprocketafter having done what Bennedetto ?12:26
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_johnhey, whenever i configure kopete, it crashes on me12:26
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Bennedettobeefsprocket: i edited my xorg.conf12:28
beefsprocketfor nvidia or ati?12:29
Bennedettoati12:29
Bennedettono, intel12:29
ChryseusBennedetto: egrep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log12:29
Bennedettointel i81012:29
beefsprocketChryseus seems to know what to do..12:29
Chryseuswell.. that'll tell what the real error is..12:29
Chryseus:P12:30
Chryseusbeen there, done that.. everybody should know it ;)12:30
beefsprocketi was jsut there trying to get the new nvidia to work on dapper :P12:30
Chryseus:)12:30
Bennedettoalright, it says... hold on i have no mouse so i have to copy this manually :)12:30
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Bennedetto(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown  (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER12:32
Bennedettothats all i got from that command12:32
Chryseushmmm...12:32
Chryseuswierd.. what did you change?12:33
beefsprocketBennedetto: are you using gdm or kdm? there is some strange problem with gmd and cupys recently12:33
Bennedettokdm12:33
beefsprocketnm then12:33
beefsprockethave you stopped kdm?12:33
beefsprocketand then restarted or did you reboot?12:33
Bennedettoyes, i restarted it manually12:33
beefsprocketok12:33
Bennedettoi did both12:33
ChryseusBennedetto: what did you change in xorg.conf?12:34
Bennedettoumm for my monitor on the modeline12:34
me2win!wireless12:34
ubotuI heard wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers12:34
Bennedettoi changed "1280x800@60"12:34
Bennedettoto the same thing but without the @6012:34
Chryseuschange it back? :P12:35
Chryseusseems pretty wierd though.. never knew that would matter :/12:35
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toxic_[sed help]  is there a way to only return data matching pattern rather than deleting data matching pattern ? (ie this deletes data: sed -e 's/[0-9] //g' while I want to return only the numbers)12:35
Bennedettoyeah, i was just going to change it back12:36
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Bennedettoso, i changed it back, and restarted kdm12:37
Bennedettostill no gui :(12:37
Chryseusyou must've changed something else too :P12:38
Bennedettonope, i swear that i didnt12:38
Chryseusok.. did you install something?12:38
Chryseusupgrade?12:38
Bennedettoi installed a bunch of stuff12:38
Bennedettoupgraded and installed12:38
Bennedetto(im normally a gentoo user, so i wanted to get some of the more useless things off)12:38
Chryseusand that Xorg.0.log doesn't tell anythign else?12:38
Bennedettoill chekc12:39
Bennedettocheck*12:39
Chryseususeless stuff.. like what? :D12:39
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Bennedettojust like documentation that i dont need12:42
Bennedettokde programs that i dont use12:42
Bennedettonothing that should kill x12:42
beefsprockettry a full upgrade or dist-upgrade?12:43
Bennedettothough i do see where it says that it doesnt recognize 1280by800 so it switches to 1024 by 76812:43
Bennedettoi did a full upgrade earlier today12:43
Bambinowhere can i change my screen resolution12:43
ChryseusBennedetto: hmm.. I'm running out of ideas :/12:44
Bennedettoas am i12:45
beefsprockettry commenting out your modeline(s) entirely12:45
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h3sp4wnBennedetto: If you use aptitude instead of apt-get then If you uninstal saomething it takes away the deps12:45
beefsprocketalso, do you have your horizontal and veritcal refresh rates set? I think most 1280x800 laptops are 31.5-90 for horizontal, and 60 for vetical12:46
Bennedettoi was using adept, so whatever that does i dont know when it comes to the dependencies12:46
ChryseusBennedetto: because if xorg doesn't start it should have errors in log.. and if there's nothing.. beats me12:46
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Chryseusyou accidentally removed whole xorg? :P12:48
Bennedettolol12:48
Bennedettoheres what i get when i sudo startx12:48
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Bennedettoxinit: connection refused (errno 111): unable to connect to xserver xinit: no such process (errno 3): Server error.12:50
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beefsprocketBennedetto: try backing up your xorg then and run xorgconfig to rebuild a new one12:53
Bennedettokk12:54
beefsprocketor installing xserver-xorg again12:54
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Bennedettowhere is xorgconfig12:55
Bennedettoits not in my path atm i dont believe12:55
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beefsprocketBennedetto: ok, do a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg instead then12:56
laszlokBennedetto: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg will recreate your xorg.conf12:56
beefsprocket:)12:56
Bennedettoxserver-org is broken or not fully installed12:58
Bennedettothats what i get, so i must have removed something i shouldnt have12:58
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me2win!info ndisgtk12:59
me2win!ndisgtk12:59
beefsprocketBennedetto: ok, so remove it and then reinstall01:00
beefsprocketwhat is going on here?01:00
Bennedettoalright, i dont know how to use apt-get, im usually more of a emerge kinda guy01:00
beefsprocketok: apt-get remove xserver-xorg01:00
beefsprocketor, simply apt-get install xserver-xorg01:01
beefsprocket(try the install first)01:01
Bennedettoi need my cd to do it? i cant do it over the internet?01:01
beefsprocketyou can do it over the net01:02
beefsprocketaptitude, dpkg, and apt-get all reference one file and one major directory01:02
beefsprocketnamely, /etc/apt/sources,list for repositories01:02
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beefsprocketand /var/cache/apt/archives for .deb storage on your machine01:03
Bennedettoits telling me to put the cd back in01:03
beefsprocketif you don't have the cd (you don't need it), comment out the very top line in /etc/apt/sources.list01:03
beefsprocketand then run apt-get update01:03
beefsprocketthen do apt-get install xserver-xorg01:03
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beefsprocketyou'll never need the cd again either01:04
me2win!ndisgtk01:04
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ubotuNo idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, me2win01:04
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Bennedettosorry, this is some crazy joinging and quitting01:05
Bennedettoalright, i edited the file01:05
Bennedettothen it was apt-get update right?01:05
beefsprocketyep01:06
beefsprocketthat updates so that you don;t use the cd anymore01:06
Bennedettok and now i can do the install?01:06
Bennedettoalrighty, its installing01:07
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beefsprocketexcellent01:07
beefsprocketyou'll be up and running in no time now01:07
Bennedettoso when its done, i should be able to startx right?01:07
beefsprocketyou using a different computer or a commandline irc client?01:07
Bennedettocommandline irc01:07
beefsprocketyou should be able to  do /etc/init.d/kdm start actually01:07
Bennedettoim actually sshing into my gentoo box to irc01:08
beefsprocketwhich is what normally happens when you start up your computer01:08
beefsprocketright01:08
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Bennedettoomg im in a gui!01:10
beefsprocketwicked01:10
Bennedettoyay!!!01:11
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beefsprocketso what's next then Bennedetto? xgl?01:11
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Bennedettolol, not yet01:12
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Bennedettoi want to get 1280 by 800 first01:12
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beefsprocketright, I think like I said above (since I use the same res) specify your proper h/z refresh rates01:12
beefsprocketlike 31.5-90 for horizontal, 60 for vertical01:13
Bambinois it possible to save a screen session as a log file?01:13
Bennedettoso, im assuming that thats in my xorg too beefsprocket01:14
beefsprocketyep01:14
beefsprocketin the monitor section01:14
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beefsprocketcomment out whatever is there (the two relevant lines) and then add yours01:15
beefsprocketthen you want to check to make sure that your display depth matches your screen resolution01:15
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beefsprocketfor example, in depth 4, the first entry  should be "1280x800"01:16
beefsprocketsorry depth 2401:16
mayankBambino, you can redirect the screen session on a file01:16
Bennedettoheres what im going to do01:16
Bennedettoim going to post my xorg.conf in pastebin01:16
beefsprocketI'll edit01:16
Bambinomayank, How?01:16
beefsprocket:)01:16
Bennedettoperfect!01:16
mayankusing > x.log01:16
mayankie ls -l > x.log01:17
robotgeekmayank: he meant gnu screen01:17
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wordWhat could be wrong if certain mp3's don't play right on Amarok?01:19
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robotgeekBambino: maybe screen -L01:20
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cathalanyone reccommend an ftp program for KDE?01:31
beefsprocketkonqueror works01:31
_pipcathal: gftp is very good!01:31
_pipcathal: I promise01:32
beefsprocket_pip: I find it crashes all the time01:32
cathalyea i used gftp on Gnome but looking for one for kde01:32
beefsprocketbut it is nice when it works fo rsure01:32
beefsprocketkftpgrabber is another good one then01:32
_pipbeefsprocket: Did you ? I am sorry to hear that! But I didn't01:32
beefsprocketlucky -- i'd much rather use it for sure otherwise01:33
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_pipcathal: Hey ,gftp can also be used for kDE01:33
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koshI juse use konqueror for ftp01:34
koshit works well01:34
_pipcathal: you can find it with Adept01:35
koshhowever mostly I use sftp and not ftp since ftp is insecure01:35
beefsprocketkosh: agreed, most stable of the 3, tabs, bookmarks, integrates with kwallet01:35
koshbeefsprocket: intergrates with kget also01:35
cathal_pip, yea i know i just wanted to see if their was anything better or looks nicer really, a bit plain, i like my eye candy lol01:35
koshbeefsprocket: so downloads can be resumed etc01:35
blackflagFor sftp you can use kasablanca01:35
beefsprocketkosh: try using fish://01:36
beefsprocket(in konqueror that is)01:36
koshbeefsprocket: fish is for when you can use sftp01:36
beefsprocketexactly -- it is ssh01:36
koshbeefsprocket: it is not a replacement, it tries to simulate the same stuff as sftp does over scp01:36
koshbeefsprocket: however why would I use fish when all my ssh servers are ssh2 and already support sftp?01:36
beefsprocketright, but it work in konqueror's gui01:36
koshsftp does also01:37
beefsprocketreally? that I did not know01:37
koshand it has for years01:37
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beefsprocketnever tried it -- that's handy01:37
koshyup I have been using sftp though konqueror since 2.0 or so, however with 3.0 is has worked better01:37
beefsprocketcool, Ima have to try it then01:37
koshfish is nice, I just don't see the point of using scp to pretend to be sftp when sftp is available :)01:38
beefsprocketI learned with scp01:39
koshI learned with telnet, zmodem, kermit etc :)01:39
beefsprocketno comment  :P01:40
_pipbeefsprocket: can you reccomend a download tool with multi-threaded skill ?01:41
beefsprocketnope01:41
beefsprocketdoes flashgot integrate with anything like that?01:41
koshusing archie to find stuff and how cool it was when mosaic and netscape first came up01:41
koshand stuff like interlaced gifs01:42
_pipbeefsprocket: Does it work on linux?01:42
beefsprocketyeah, with firefox and kget01:42
beefsprocketI rather like it01:42
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_pipbeefsprocket: let me see...: )01:42
kosh_pip: why not just use konqueror? you can even use it with kget transparently01:44
BambinoI have two questions. 1: Where do I choose how many Desktop to display in my tasbkar? 2: How can I make it so I can see the trash can, System menu, Home folder..? thanks01:45
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_pipkosh: kget ?  In fact I used Kubuntu several days ago,so I don't know that. Thank you01:48
koshjust install kget at run it once, from then on it should startup on its own01:49
koshand it integrates transparently with konqueror01:49
koshit is just a download manager, konqueror would still be the ftp program01:49
koshbut you can define in kget how many files to get at a time, how retries are handled etc01:49
koshit works very well together01:49
koshwell I am wandering off01:50
beefsprocketBambino: right click on the dekstop applet in your kicker bar01:50
beefsprocketthen configure desktops01:50
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Bambinothanks01:51
beefsprocket:)01:51
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davixhow do I play .amr files (gsm wav format) in kubuntu01:52
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carlos!xgl02:03
ubotuXGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/02:03
_pipubotu: Hello!02:07
ubotuHi, _pip!02:07
_pipubotu: Do yo know kget?02:08
ubotu_pip: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/02:08
BambinoAnyone here has a tras can? And can tell me how to get it to work so when i remove everything it shows as emtpy, and when i put something in it, itactually shows as something in it? ;)02:08
wordInteresting question....you basically want it to change the icon when you have contents in your trash can?02:08
Bambinoword, That is correct.02:09
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_pipmayank:Hello, how canI get kget?02:12
larkinis there an easy-to-install c++ compiler for Kubuntu02:12
mayankuse apt-get install gcc02:13
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MrKubuntuUserHi... is anybody else getting "memory corruption detected" in their syslog from kdm on Dapper?02:14
MrKubuntuUserI started getting that after dist-upgrading this afternoon.02:14
mayanksudo apt-get install kget02:14
MrKubuntuUserKDM still seems to function properly, but I just noticed several of those entries in my syslog02:16
_pipmayank: thank you!02:16
mayanknp02:16
mayank_pip: you can use anjuta also02:17
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_pipmayank: it said "I cann't find it!"02:17
_pipmayank: sudo apt-get install anjuta?02:17
mayankyes02:18
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Bennedettobeefsprocket: I got it!02:18
_pipmayank: failed02:18
beefsprocketwicked02:18
_pipmayank: none02:18
Bennedettommm proper resolutions02:18
MrKubuntuUserAny Dapper users here that updated this afternoon?02:18
beefsprocketdid it have anything to do with proper vet/horiz refresh? I realised that I posted the wrong numbers :(02:19
mayank_pip: for gcc you have to use: sudo apt-get install gcc++02:19
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Bennedettonope, it is the vid card02:19
Bennedettoi just followed a tutorial on the ubuntu forums02:19
beefsprockethmm, what did you have to change?02:19
Bennedettoand voila02:19
beefsprocketcool02:19
_pipmayank: Then ...?02:19
beefsprocketthat rocks dude02:19
Bennedettoi had to install a patch, and change my modline02:19
mayank_pip: that will install gcc++ and anjuta on your system02:19
beefsprocketit was a patch. stupid intel02:20
Bennedettopretty much02:20
Bennedettoyay02:20
Bennedettoim so happy now02:20
beefsprocketgood that someone else had the problem first though :)02:20
mayankyou can use gcc at the command line to compile the c++ programs02:20
beefsprockettime to customize kde then?02:20
Bennedettoyeppers!02:20
_pipmayank: see02:21
beefsprocketBennedetto: mtaskbar, kbfx, polymer, and a few others are what I start with02:21
beefsprocketand superkaramba of course02:21
mayank_pip: anjuta is IDE for C/C++ programs02:21
_pipmayank: No!I want kget!02:21
mayankok02:21
Bennedettocan i just apt get those?02:22
Bennedettoor will they be in adept02:22
mayankok02:22
mayanksudo apt-get install kget02:22
mayankthis should work02:22
_pipmayank: Can't make it02:22
mayankok what are u getting02:22
_pipmayank: my computer said it couldn't find the package02:22
_pipmayank: strange02:23
mayank_pip: have u set apt-get before02:23
_pipmayank: Forgotton02:23
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mayankie /etc/apt/sources.list02:24
beefsprocketBennedetto: superkaramba is there, not sure about the others (i build them from source off kde-look.org)02:24
_pipmayank: maybe that would be the problem02:24
mayank_pip: i think02:24
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Bennedettonope, im not seeing superkaramba in adept02:24
beefsprocketmight be in universe or multiverse then02:25
beefsprocketgood good02:25
Bennedettoim so tempted to uninstall the drivers for my touchpad02:25
Bennedettobut i know ill regret it02:25
beefsprocketjust make sure if you do that you don't take X with you this time :P02:25
Bennedettolol02:26
Bennedettoi know how to fix it now02:26
beefsprocketI use mine enough to have resigned myself to dealing with it02:26
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_pipmayank:I made it02:28
mayank_pip: great :)02:29
Bennedettobeefsprocket: i just hit my touchpad all the time when im typing02:30
beefsprocketI think you can lock it on most laptops02:30
Bennedettoi have yet to find the key to do it02:30
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Bennedettobut yes, you usuallycan02:31
beefsprockethmm02:31
Bennedettobut i can deal cause my new resolution is HAWT02:32
beefsprocketlol02:32
_pipmayank: I have made kget together with konqueror,so how can I use it ?02:33
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mayank_pip: in konqueror "Tools" -> "Download manager"02:34
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Bennedettoso beefsprocket, what widgets do you use with superkaramba02:36
_pipmayank: shouldn't it open antomaticlly when I clicked a link for downloading?02:37
Poolhello02:37
beefsprocketumm, I like aero all in one, liquid weather, and sound mania02:37
beefsprocketbut try them all02:37
Poolcan someone help me with something?02:37
beefsprocketand use kde-look.org02:37
beefsprocketPool: what's up?02:37
Poolhi there02:37
Pooltrying to install firefox02:37
Poolgot it untarred02:38
Poolcant seem to get it running02:38
beefsprocketthe 1.5 from mozilla.org then?02:38
Poolyes02:38
Poollatest version02:38
beefsprocketare you running it from a command line?02:38
PoolI have permissions, and am logged in as su02:38
Poolyes from command line02:38
_pipmayank: why I can't see it under tool?02:38
beefsprocketPool: are you getting a can't connect to display 0:0 or something like that?02:39
mayank_pip: Select "show drop target"02:39
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Poolpool@Pool:~/firefox$ ./firefox02:39
Pool./firefox-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory02:39
Poolpool@Pool:~/firefox$02:39
Poolis what I get02:39
beefsprocketright, try running the other firefox executable02:40
beefsprocketthere are two02:40
Poolo02:40
Poolfirefox-bin?02:40
beefsprocketyep, that one02:40
beefsprocket./firefox-bin02:40
Poolpool@Pool:~/firefox$ ./firefox-bin02:40
Pool./firefox-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libmozjs.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory02:40
Poolpool@Pool:~/firefox$02:40
Pool=(02:40
beefsprocketok, one of them works, and I've had one of those errors02:41
beefsprocketdo you have libstdc++5 installed?02:41
Poolnot ssure02:41
beefsprockettry apt-get install libstdc++5 then02:41
Pooldid a default install of kubuntu02:41
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Poolpool@Pool:~/firefox$ apt -get install libstdc++502:42
Poolbash: apt: command not found02:42
Poolpool@Pool:~/firefox$02:42
_pipmayank: can I control its speed?02:42
Shurikensudo apt-get install libstdc++502:42
kunjananyone having problems going to http://klik.atekon.de02:43
kunjan?02:43
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_adamHi to everybody02:43
Poolthat worked, thanks Shuriken02:43
_adamI would have a question02:43
_adammy Adept just crashed on me02:43
kunjani cant reach it from a few days!02:44
beefsprocketPool: got it running now?02:44
Shurikennp Pool02:44
_adamand it gave me an error report02:44
_adamI'm just wondering what should I do with it02:44
beefsprocketkunjan: I can't get it to load02:44
Poolyep, that worked.  Thanks alot guys02:44
beefsprocketenjoy02:44
Bennedettobeefsprocket: ive got a theme02:44
mayank_pip: i am not sure about it02:44
Bennedettoand i know how to load it02:44
Poolwill do, I'm sure I'll be back02:44
_adamI saved it02:45
Poolbye02:45
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Bennedettobut do i just run it in screen to keep it from closing the widget02:45
_adamshould I send it somewhere?02:45
beefsprocketBennedetto: cool, fun stuff02:45
beefsprocketBennedetto: yeah, you load it with superkaramba and then just leave it there02:45
wordAnyone here know anything about tvtuners with linux?02:45
Bennedettoalright ill screen it then02:45
beefsprocketmake sure superkaramba is still running with it when you logout and it will stay the next time you login02:46
beefsprocketword: only a little02:46
carloshey guys im getting an error and cant open adept anymore! help!02:46
wordbeefsprocket: What could be wrong if it only identifys channel 2?02:46
beefsprocketwhich program are you using? my knowledge is limited to tvtime02:47
wordI have tvtime i have about 3 programs for it lol none are working02:47
beefsprocketword: could be that you have to switch from air signal to cable02:47
carlosive pasted my error in the pastebin...someone plz help adept wont open02:48
carlostried both solutions the error suggests...to no avail...02:49
wordbeefsprocket: Umm..now it says I have no signal ><02:49
Shurikengive us the pastebin url02:50
_piphello!how can I control the download speed of kget ?02:50
beefsprockethttp://kubuntu.pastebin.com/65882902:50
beefsprocketword: hmm, I think there is a scan option in tvtime?02:50
beefsprocketShuriken: that is the url02:50
wordyah it finds nothing02:50
carloshttp://kubuntu.pastebin.com/65882902:51
beefsprocketwell, that's the extent of my knowledge, sorry I can't help more02:51
Shurikendid you try to remove it and re-install it ?02:51
beefsprockettvtime is the easiest to configure though, so I'd start looking there02:51
carlosno....that was my last resort i guess....it happened after i added the xgl serve in the repository....i went into the list and made sure all was good....ahh well...how would i uninstall/reinstall?02:52
beefsprocketcarlos use dpkg02:52
Shurikensudo apt-get remove adept --purge02:52
carlosthanks02:53
carlosand to reisntall?02:53
Shurikensudo apt-get install adept02:53
carlosthanks shuriken02:54
Shurikendoes it work now ?02:54
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carloschecking now shuriken...02:56
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carlosshurike: yes its working thanks so much.....still getting the MIME error though :/02:57
carlosanyone know what that is?02:58
_adamguys, I need your help, I really don't knwo what to do with the error report I got for my adept crash, should I send it somewhere or no?02:58
Shurikendunno, i have this error when i lauch adept02:58
Shurikenbut it works fine02:58
beefsprocketcarlos: are you running dapper?02:58
carlosbeefsproket; yes...kubuntu dapper newest build02:59
beefsprocketShuriken and carlos: that is a confirmed adept bug02:59
Shurikenso do I, with Xgl/compiz02:59
beefsprocketthe octet-mime thing02:59
carlosokay...it does work fine after that though02:59
beefsprocketyep02:59
beefsprocketit's on malone with lots of confirmations02:59
beefsprocketdoesn't do anything bad though02:59
carlosShuriken: thats what im working on... (xgl/compiz)02:59
Shurikendo you have some trouble ?03:00
carlosyeah :( i can never get it to work based on the ubuntu how to's...03:01
carlosi got a chance to chat with quinn and he told me to make sure i had the xgl.compiz repositry and thats when adept bonked on me lol03:01
Shurikenwhat is your graphic card ? Ati ou Nvidia ?03:01
carlosNVID03:01
carlosmx 4000 same card as quinnn he said...03:02
carloseverytime i think its ready i get froze at startup on a blue kubuntu screen...and then directed to terminal03:03
carlosthen i change my servercmd back to default and try again... :/03:03
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carlosoh well...im GONNA get it right lol03:04
ShurikenI suggest you read this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=147711&page=103:04
Shurikenit works very well for me03:05
carlosyeah this is the guide i use.....always freezes for me ;(03:05
carloswould you mind showing me your kmdrc?03:06
Shurikenha, sorry03:06
carlosis it exact same as guide?03:06
Shurikenyes, it's the same03:06
Shurikenbut the mx4000 is an old card, isn't it ?03:07
carlosi think it may...i got it for cheap cheap from a friend lol03:07
carlosits 128 mb03:07
Shurikenare you your card support the last nvidia-glx driver ?03:08
Shuriken*sure03:08
carlosi know xgl CAN work with it...my kororaa install did it perfectly...but alas im not such a big fan of gentoo.....03:08
carlosim almost poitive...03:09
carlosin my xorg.conf i dont have load glcore    i just have load glx03:09
carlosmaybe that means something?03:10
Shurikeni don't think03:10
Shurikenit was the same for me03:10
Shurikenthe only difference is my sources.list03:11
Shurikeni don't use the same in the thread03:11
carlosfor adept?03:11
Shurikenyes03:11
carloswhat did you use?03:11
Shurikeni'm french, i use one found in a french tutorial03:12
carlosoh... ok maybe not a good idea for me (im dumb american) lol03:13
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Shurikencause their is the last compiz packages (updated frequently)03:14
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carlosare packages in french?03:15
Shurikenno, their is nothing to translate03:15
carlosoh maybe i should try it then?03:17
Shurikenand what about composite ONLY, does it work ?03:17
carlosyou mean at the end of xorg.conf file?03:18
wordanyone know how to get a tvtuner to work with linux? ><03:19
carlosbbiab...trying some more things03:20
carlosthanks for al your help shuriken03:20
carlosmerci  :p03:20
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Shurikenno, composite and Xgl/compiz are two different things, but in the howto they are treated together03:21
Shuriken(you are welcolme, i hope my english is understandable)03:23
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Shurikencomposite is only for shadows/transparency03:25
wordUmm...I found directions to fix my problem...I just need help interpreting them..03:29
word"type as insmod argument (card=n). You might also have to specify tuner=x and pll=x"03:29
wordI know n is 78 :-/03:29
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carlosshuriken: finally...success ;)03:34
carlosno window outline, though :p03:35
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waylandbillI ran ntpdate from a prompt and now my clock is set to GMT. How do I correct the timezone?03:37
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carlosshuriken you there?03:38
Shurikencarlos: So you are running Xgl ?03:38
carlosyes...but i few glitches...no window outlines...but from whati read this is easily fixed?03:39
Shuriken(yeah, some trouble with Konversation ^^)03:39
carlosoh ok lol03:39
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Shurikenwindow outlines = windows decoration ?03:40
carlosyes...i think...do i have to enable gnome decoration?03:40
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Shurikenyes, you must03:40
carlosgot a link :p03:40
Shurikenbut you don't need to install all the gnome stuff03:40
carlosoh good ;)03:41
Shurikenjust gconf03:41
Shurikenit's on the howto03:41
carlosahh will check....bbiab03:41
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Shurikensome KDE components don't work with yet with Xgl03:43
ShurikenLike Kicker and the window decorations03:43
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Shurikenand the virutal desktops03:44
wordhow woudl I do this - "type as insmod argument (card=n). You might also have to specify tuner=x and pll=x" ?03:45
Shurikenthe Xgl cube has 4 faces, so only 4 virutal desktops :/03:45
davixporn kthx03:46
Shurikenbut the rest is great03:47
wordShuriken: Do you know what this means - "type as insmod argument (card=n). You might also have to specify tuner=x and pll=x"03:47
Shurikenit's for tvout ?03:48
wordyes03:48
wordbttv didn't auto detect right03:48
Shurikendunno, sorry. (I don't watch TV)03:49
wordlol :P do you know what those directions mean though?03:49
carloshmmm shuriken...wheres the howto on how to enable gnome window decorations?03:50
Shurikenno, maybe you should ask on #ubuntu03:50
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Shurikenin the beginning i think03:51
Shurikenthe first code03:52
Shurikencompiz-gnome gconf-editor03:52
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burninglegionhello?03:52
Shurikenbut i have installed both compiz-kde and compiz-gnome03:52
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burninglegioni need some help here - trying to boot live cd03:53
carlosahh ok i got that...what do i do in gconf-editor?03:53
Shurikenjust copy the first code line in your terminal, and maybe you should add "compiz-kde" at the end (i did that)03:54
CheeseBurgerManburninglegion: Stick in the CD, and restat the computer...03:54
carloshmm...not quite following you...i have both compiz kde and gnome installed...i can fire up gconf-editor in terminal, but im not sure what to change03:56
Shurikendon't fire up gconf-editor, you don't need use it03:56
Shuriken(except if you want fix some shortcuts)03:57
carlosoh ok03:58
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burninglegioni need help booting the live cd - for some reason the gnome desktop locks up04:05
burninglegionI have looked in the forums, lets just say - they were no help04:05
CheeseBurgerManCan you boot directly into a terminal?04:06
burninglegionnot sure man, im a newb04:07
burninglegionbut,  gotta start from somewhere04:07
CheeseBurgerManYep.04:07
burninglegionknoppix loads perfectly for me04:07
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burninglegionw/out any errors04:07
Shurikendid you try a Kubuntu Live CD ?04:07
burninglegioni did ubuntu - im downloading the kubuntu right now04:08
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carlosshuriken: i have both compiz-gnome and compiz-kde : still cant figure out exactyl what to do to set the windows decorators--did you have to do anythin or is it justsupposed to happen??04:08
burninglegionit just happens04:08
burninglegioncould it be my nvidia video card04:09
Shurikenit just happens04:09
burninglegioncuz thats wut my monitor is plugged into04:09
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burninglegionyeah, i just dont have a clue04:09
burninglegionbut some other linux distros load fine04:09
CheeseBurgerManburninglegion: It doesn't tell you that it can't start X, does it?04:09
burninglegionnope04:10
burninglegionjust has like a "_" in top left corner04:10
carlosok...ill bbl gonna try and restart04:10
burninglegionnot blinking04:10
burninglegionacts like its not doing ne thing04:10
Shurikenas i said you before, in first i followed a french tuto04:10
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Shurikenwith several different things...04:11
Shurikenbut it was only for GDM04:11
Shurikenthat's why i followed the howto after that04:12
burninglegionwell, im gonna come back tomorrow - and try to get some more help from you guys04:12
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bristenhello?04:15
bristenanybody out here?04:15
Shurikenyeah, hello04:16
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bristenuh, let me rephrase that: anybody here know anything about Automatix? I used to have sound, now it's gone :(04:16
CheeseBurgerMan!automatix04:16
ubotuhmm... automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.04:16
bristennow that it's all done, I wish I would of done it the long way :(04:17
ArthurBHi, can anyone using dapper confirm a crash in kopete  (4:3.5.2-0ubuntu1) ?04:17
bristenbut for now, it's been installed, and I ran some application installs already...04:17
bristenjust wondering how to debug a "no sound" problem?04:17
CheeseBurgerManArthurB: If you don't get an answer here, look in #ubuntu+104:17
ArthurBok04:17
bristenany "how to debug sound" somewheres?04:17
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CheeseBurgerManHmm04:18
bristenmy old beater notebook is in pretty good shape over all though04:18
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bristenreconizes my house LAN, connects to my WinXP box, file sharing works.. I can browse internet, I have firefox 1.5, OO2, etc04:19
kfarrellHiyas, I just did an apt-get kdein dapper, I like it a lot. But it seems to be missing the incremental search in KMenu? Any one know how to enable this kick ass feature?04:19
bristendapper is after breezy right? In breezy I use Katapult for typing app names04:19
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bristenalt-space, start typing app name, and it uses an incremental search04:20
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bristenI'm a newb, so maybe that's not what you were looking for...04:20
CheeseBurgerManbristen: Correcto.04:20
carlosoh yeah! had to get rid of the gui compiz editor...all is well now :)04:20
carlosthnx a bunch shuriken!04:20
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bristenso, now... how to debug sound trouble?04:21
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Shurikenwell, i'm glad to hear it04:22
CheeseBurgerManbristen: Not sure, sorry04:22
carloswobbly wobbly wobbly lol04:22
bristenoh ok, I'll search the net then...04:23
Shurikendo you know all shortcuts ?04:23
bristeneverything takes sooo mcuh time with Linux it seems :-(04:23
solid_liqanyone know what tools I need to develop applications for the Treo 650?04:23
bristenit's true that I'm a newb though... I should of made an image of my partition before I started making a mess with Automatix :-(04:23
carlosi think....when i alt tab how do i get rid of that window?04:24
carlosseems to be stuck04:24
Shurikendamn04:24
CheeseBurgerMancarlos: My alt-tab works like windows...04:25
carlosprobably another common problm though...justglad to at least get it up :p04:25
Shurikenyou can use F12 for switch too04:25
carlosoh sweet...but the "alt-tab" window wont go away :(04:26
carlosstuck on all sides of cube04:26
bristenI'vegot an easy question for you people, how do I create a root user account? I know all the story about why it doesn't create one by default...04:27
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Shurikenrestart X ?!04:27
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bristenthe other day, my HD had problemsand was asking for root... my main user password was not good enough..04:27
bristenI had to reinstall04:27
Shurikenbristen: on ubuntu there is no root acount04:27
carlosyeah thas what im doin......back in a sec04:27
bristenwhy do I see some lines in red? do you guys send those directly to me or it's just because my name is in the line?04:28
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CheeseBurgerManbristen: It's because your name is in the line04:28
bristenI know there is no root account by default, but I thought I read somewheres you could manually createone?04:28
bristenI would of had to reinstall if there was a root account :(04:29
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Shurikenyou don't need a root account on ubuntu04:29
carlosjust create user bristen.....you act as root with "sudo"04:29
Shurikenthe first user' pass give the admin powers04:29
CheeseBurgerManOK, I can't officially condone this and all that, but Control Center > System Administration > Users & Groups. Go in administrator mode, show system accounts, and then add a password for root.04:30
bristenI understand the principal behind the thing, and I won't use it... but may HAVE to if my HD crashes again.. I was not getting into my WM (KDE in my case), just a console text window04:31
bristenthanks CheeseBurgerMan, I'll try it...04:31
carlosshuriken...i think somethin is still wrong...shouldnt i HAVE to ctrl+alt to drag cube around?04:31
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carlosmy cube rotates just by moving mouse to edge04:32
Shurikenctrl+alt+left mouse drag the cube or a window04:32
bristencheeseburger: done! thanks for the info.. that's another thing I wanted done :-)04:33
Shurikenor you can use ctrl+alt+arrow keys for the cube04:33
carlosi know...but mine rotates cube without ctrl alt...all i have to do is drag mouse to edge and it rotates...weird...04:33
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Smeggyanyone know how to get a Trash icon on the desktop?04:34
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carlosis vanilla compiz better than regular compiz?04:36
carlosmaybe i should switch?04:36
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Shurikendunno, do as you want ^^ i am not an expert in Xgl... i only installed it yesterday04:37
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carlosumkay....i have to boot ino XP soon anyway to work on some music....04:38
carlosits been fun though ^^04:38
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Shurikenuh, i don't have XP04:39
Shurikenwell, i need to sleep :/04:39
carlosgnite....hope to see you around :)04:39
Shurikengood luck with Xgl !04:39
carlosthnx you as well04:39
Shurikengood bye all.04:39
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bristenthanks all, I'm out04:42
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zblachhey, how do I get samba connections working? i've an existing windows network i'd like to connect to. kubuntu 5.10+kde 3.5.104:54
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CheeseBurgerMansmb://host/share/04:55
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gleesondhow do I get the dvd drives not to be shown on the desktop?05:35
CheeseBurgerManControl Center > Desktop > Behavior05:35
Apostle^hehe CheeseBurgerMan helped me with that earlier toda05:35
lutraCheeseBurgerMan: are you the guy from the mcdonald's commericals?05:36
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_pip.clear05:37
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CheeseBurgerManlutra: No05:38
CheeseBurgerManApostle^: I remember. :P05:38
Apostle^;-D05:38
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gleesondCheeseBurgerMan: thanks05:46
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arafati am drunk......... good  night good fight!05:48
n3ckhi05:50
suyog05:51
n3cktheres some way to install amarok 1.4 beta 3 in breezy?05:51
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laszlokn3ck: you can compile taglib1.4 yourself but its not advised unless you know what you are doing05:56
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cabajgtrDoes anybody know how to fix taskbar icons that are opening as windows instead of taskbar items?06:01
CheeseBurgerManYou mean they don't show in the taskbar?06:01
cabajgtrnope06:02
CheeseBurgerManNope meaning they don't show in the taskbar, or nope meaning that I'm wrong?06:02
cabajgtrno, sorry they are applets, they are showing in the taskbar but should be by the clock06:03
cabajgtrthe applets are in their own windows each06:03
CheeseBurgerManAh06:03
CheeseBurgerManHrm, still not sure what you're talking about.06:03
CheeseBurgerManYou mean they're on a different panel?06:04
cabajgtrmy volume icon, power gauge, adept notifier, all as windows, not apples06:04
cabajgtrapplets06:04
CheeseBurgerManOh, the system tray06:05
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cabajgtryes, sorry, the word wasnt coming to me06:05
CheeseBurgerManOK, NP06:05
CheeseBurgerManDo you have the applet handles showing?06:05
CheeseBurgerManSo you have a little bar & arrow by each different applet?06:06
cabajgtrno, they aren't in the taskbar at all06:06
_piphow to speed up my kget ?06:06
cabajgtrthe little icon is in a little window, i can resize it just like my konversation window06:06
CheeseBurgerManOK...I'm not sure what to do - can you take a screenshot so I can get a better idea of what you're talking about?06:07
CheeseBurgerMan'Cause frankly, I'm a bit confused.06:07
cabajgtrok, i have a screenshot, how should i send it?06:09
CheeseBurgerManimageshack should work fine06:09
cabajgtr?06:09
CheeseBurgerManhttp://www.imageshack.us06:10
cabajgtrhttp://img97.imageshack.us/img97/5738/snapshot17ld.png06:12
cabajgtrthats a nifty little site06:12
CheeseBurgerManThanks06:13
CheeseBurgerManyes it is. ;)06:13
CheeseBurgerManThat's strange. Never seen that before06:13
CheeseBurgerManWhat happens when you add the system tray applet?06:13
cabajgtrmight be somthing related to Xgl/compiz...06:13
ArthurB fonts... ugly... eyes06:13
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cabajgtrit let me add an applet06:14
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CheeseBurgerManAnd I assume nothing happened06:15
cabajgtrno, log in/out icon show in the system tray06:16
cabajgtrbut i killed and restarted knetworkmanager, and it came back the same06:17
cabajgtrin a window06:17
CheeseBurgerManHmm06:18
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cabajgtrhmm ok, I'm going to see if it always does it.. I've only rebooted 2x since I got compiz working06:20
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tburdickwhats the meta package for all the dev stuff06:30
tburdickI manage to ALWAYS forget06:30
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robotgeekbuild-essential TheMonoTone06:31
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TheMonoTonewhy can't they just call it dev something something06:31
TheMonoToneI never think build06:31
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[muttox] can someone help me with getting mp3s to work with amarok under dapper?06:33
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CheeseBurgerMan[muttox] : What engine are you using?06:39
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Poolhello06:41
Poolcan someone help me out for a second?06:41
Blaxticpool - sup?06:41
Poolhi there06:41
PoolI cant set my screen resolution06:41
Poolits set to 1024x768 is my xorg.conf06:42
Blaxticand it boots to 640X480?06:42
Poolbut in the kde display box it doesnt give me an option for 1024x76806:42
Poolso its stuck in 800x60006:42
Pooland looks really really awful06:42
Blaxticyou on a laptop?  widescreen?06:43
Poollaptop06:43
Blaxticwhat's the optimal?06:43
Poolthe laptop will run in 1024x768, Im positive of that06:43
Pooloptimal?06:43
CheeseBurgerManIdeal06:43
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CheeseBurgerMantypical06:43
Blaxticall laptops have a native resolution06:43
Pool1024x76806:43
evil-doerthe actual pixel resolution of the display06:43
Blaxticanything else looks like crap06:43
scroogeamg hai06:44
Pool1024x768 is the optimal06:44
Poolhola scrooge06:44
scroogewerd06:44
BlaxticPool: do you have the specs?06:44
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Poolthe exact specs? hmm not really06:44
Blaxticwhat brand?  you need to modify your conf file to meet the specs of the laptop display06:44
Poolits an older laptop06:44
Poolits a dell latitude06:45
Poolmy conf file is editted correctly06:45
Poolits the display manager part of kde that I cant change or something06:45
PoolI think anyways06:45
Pool<--lost06:45
Blaxtici can't tell you how to do it through the display manager...  mine never worked to begin with, so I just set the exact specs it should be in the conf file and everything works.06:46
Poolfor my xorg.conf my default is 24 and 24 is set to 1024x76806:47
Blaxticin fact, you probably can't do it through the display manager since it's optimized for only the most popular specs... yours is likely different.06:47
PoolI havent rebooted since changing that, but didnt think that that would require ti06:47
Pool*it06:47
Blaxticno - you need a lot more info than just that.  just a sec.06:48
Poolok06:49
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cabajgtrOk, i found out more, but still dont know how to fix it06:51
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BlaxticPool: go here - hey - i've got a question about linux on the alpha. anyone game?06:51
Blaxticoops... heh06:51
Poollol06:52
cabajgtr"The process for the system protocol died unexpectedly"06:52
BlaxticPool - go here http://www.linux-laptop.net06:52
BlaxticPool: what model do you have?06:53
Poolno idea06:54
Poolerr eait06:54
Pool*wait06:54
Poollatitude cpi06:54
Blaxticyou should be able to find the exact model number somewhere06:54
Poold266xt06:54
Poolwhere is the XF86Config file located?06:55
BlaxticPool: here - http://www.radcyberzine.com/linux/linux-dell.html06:56
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BlaxticPool: you're using xorg06:56
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Poolo06:58
BlaxticPool: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf06:59
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Poolwhat am I looking to change in there?07:02
Poolall the values are at 1024x76807:03
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BlaxticPool: okay - look here. look under xorg.conf. backup your current one and use this one: http://home.nedlinux.nl/~bart/?page=1107:07
BlaxticPool: all you're actually wanting out of this is Device, Monitor, and Screen07:08
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sean13_hey, anyone know of an application that will record video from a webcam?07:10
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nightyhi, i've managed to upgrade kubuntu to use binary ATI drivers, but I'm not sure how to upgrade KDE to 3.5 using apt-get, any webpages out there that document this problem?07:20
nightyi found https://wiki.kubuntu.org/InstallingKDE - but not much is there07:20
nightyi also found http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde352/dists/breezy/07:22
solid_liqis there an nxclient/nxserver in apt?07:23
solid_liqnighty: yeah, there is a webpage for that07:23
solid_liqnighty: I think I found a link from www.kde.org, but I'm not positive07:23
solid_liqnighty: I did it like a month ago07:23
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solid_liqnighty: you there?07:24
SquirrelHello.07:25
nightyyep, i07:25
nightyi'm here07:25
nightyjust looking at the apt-sources file07:25
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solid_liqalright, I'll check mine for ya07:25
nightythanks mate07:25
solid_liq########  For KDE 3.5.207:26
solid_liqdeb http://mirror.cc.columbia.edu/pub/software/kde/stable/3.5.2/kubuntu breezy main07:26
solid_liqnighty: found it:07:26
solid_liqlook up :P07:26
solid_liqthen I think you just do,   apt-get update,  apt-get install kde07:27
nightyyep ive found a similar repository closer to my country (australia)07:27
nightybut what do I tell apt-get to use this repository?07:27
solid_liqk, I'm sure that'll work better for you then ;)07:27
solid_liqnighty: apt-get update07:27
nightyahhh07:27
SquirrelExcuse me. Is anyone available to answer some questions?07:28
nightybut in terms of the keyword 'kde', won't it just update a point release to 3.4.+x ?07:28
solid_liqyou should do that followed by     apt-get upgrade     regularly to pick up any security updates, like in a cron job07:28
solid_liqnighty: no it shouldn't07:28
nightyok let me try it07:29
solid_liqSquirrel: here on freenode.net, the rule is to just ask your question, don't ask if it's okay to ask it07:29
BlaxticSquirrel: sorry - shoot07:29
SquirrelOK:07:29
nightySquirrel: just ask07:29
Poolbrb07:29
SquirrelI just tried the Live CD version, but need more information before being willing to install it.07:29
solid_liqSquirrel: oh, and if noone answers, that just means that no one knows the answer07:29
nightysolid_liq: "E: Package kde has no installation candidate"07:30
SquirrelI need a firewall, first of all, and some way of getting it to recognize my USB drive, and a way to access Python.07:30
SquirrelI know Python's on there, but can't find the equivalent of IDLE.07:30
Blaxticor, that nobody is paying any attention at the moment. ;-)07:30
solid_liqnighty: try kdelibs, kdebase, kdenetwork, kdemultimedia, kdepim, kdeutils, kdeaddons, kdegraphics then07:31
BlaxticSquirrel: whoa... on problem at a time. hehheh.07:31
solid_liqSquirrel: for IDLE, just do (at a shell):           apt-get install idle07:31
nightySquirrel: Unbunta out of the box should be able to detect your USB drive07:32
solid_liqSquirrel: your USB drive should show up on /dev/sda or /dev/sdb07:32
SquirrelWhen I plug in the USB drive, it automatically gives me an error. =p07:32
solid_liqSquirrel: so it may automount for you though07:32
solid_liqSquirrel: look in /mnt for that07:32
BlaxticSquirrel: what version you running?07:32
SquirrelI downloaded the Live CD version of... Breezy Badger Kubuntu.07:33
nightysolid_liq: thats a bit dodgy, to be required to manually specify each sub-package07:33
solid_liqSquirrel: as for a firewall, do (at a shell):         apt-get install beagle07:33
solid_liqSquirrel: then run beagle to configure your firewall07:33
SquirrelHow do I get the shell?07:33
solid_liqnighty: yeah07:33
nightySquirrel: look for a Terminal Program07:34
BlaxticSquirrell: should be under System -> Konsole07:34
solid_liqnighty: try google, you may find the howto page I used.  Too bad I didn't think to bookmark it07:34
solid_liqnighty: I think I may have actually found the link for it on slashdot07:34
nightySquirrel: I just threw in my USB drive into a brand new install of Ubunta, and it was detected fine07:34
nightySquirrel: it will automatically mount the drive under a directory /media07:34
solid_liqoh that's right07:35
SquirrelSo if I do those install commands for IDLE and Beagle, those'll be installed so that they'll be accessible thereafter without the shell?07:35
solid_liqSquirrel: yep07:35
SquirrelAssuming I've installed the full version rather than running off the CD, I guess.07:35
Blaxticthe only problem i've ever had witha  usb drive (actually a usb pen drive) is it wouldn't reboot with it plugged in.. i've never had a problem with plugging it in and it automatically detecting and mounting it.07:35
solid_liqSquirrel: it'll automatically download it from the net and install it07:35
nightySquirrel: you won't need to goto a shell, just use the file manager and navigate to /media07:36
SquirrelNighty: I plugged in the USB drive, it complained, and it didn't show up. Unfortunatly I don't recall the exact message.07:36
solid_liqnighty: no he does to install beagle and idle07:36
SquirrelDownloading the firewall from the Net? Um, that'd mean going online with no firewall.07:36
nightysolid_liq: surely apt-get has a better way to handle dependances than installing each package?07:36
solid_liqSquirrel: this is Linux, not windows, you'll be safe enough07:37
solid_liqnighty: how are the dependencies going to be available if they're not installed?07:37
SquirrelI'll need some way to transfer files between Windows and Linux modes, so that means either getting the USB drive working or getting Net access.07:37
nightySquirrel: if you have a DSL router infront of your computer, its safe enough until you figure out how to restrict out-going traffic etc07:37
nightyespecially if you're NAT'd07:37
SquirrelSo I'll have to configure my WiFi card, I guess.07:37
solid_liqSquirrel: you can use the internet with linux without a firewall07:37
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solid_liqSquirrel: you won't get hit by a virus, worm, or hacker07:38
solid_liqSquirrel: with Linux a firewall is more of a good idea than an absolute necessity07:38
nightysolid_liq: i mean, the package mgmt system should be able to work out which to install based on a package keyword, if i say install 'lde352' it should just do it ;)07:38
BlaxticSquirrel: don't worry... be happy... install kubuntu... ;-)07:39
SquirrelHm. How much hard drive space do I need to devote to this?07:39
solid_liqSquirrel: installing?07:39
nightydo you think throwing in those URLs in the apt-sources file will assist in this process?07:39
solid_liqSquirrel: you mean to beagle and idle?07:39
SquirrelYes. I plan to download the full version, since I figure I need that to actually store files.07:39
solid_liqSquirrel: probably just a few megs07:39
SquirrelSo it will want to create a HD partition for itself, right?07:40
SquirrelNo, not for those specific apps. The OS.07:40
solid_liqSquirrel: software for Linux isn't way overbloated like windows software07:40
solid_liqSquirrel: oh07:40
solid_liqSquirrel: just a sec, lemme check07:40
BlaxticSquirrel: depends on your connection.... how fast is your download?07:40
SquirrelVery fast.07:41
Blaxticbroadband?07:41
solid_liqSquirrel: my Kubuntu with lots of software installed is using about 4.3 Gigs right now07:41
SquirrelYes.07:41
BlaxticSquirrel: don't worry - it'll finish downloading and installing those within 10 minutes prolly.07:42
SquirrelThe firewall?07:42
solid_liqnighty: sorry, just saw your msg.  Seriously look for the howto, it'll clear up all confusion.  I'm sorry, I'm relatively new to Ubuntu, though I've been using other linux distros for six years07:42
solid_liqSquirrel: for me beagle will install in like 30 seconds07:43
solid_liqSquirrel: IDLE in like 2 or 3 minutes prolly07:43
SquirrelI'll have to configue my wireless card first, I guess.07:43
Blaxticno - no need07:43
solid_liqSquirrel: how are you on irc?07:43
Blaxticit's already install right?07:43
SquirrelI'm running Win XP.07:43
isilzhahi. did anybody in here succeed to run maguma workbench? somehow i start to believe this won't work on debian or kubuntu07:43
solid_liqah07:44
Blaxticah07:44
Blaxticoh..07:44
Blaxtichell...07:44
Squirrel?07:44
Blaxticsorry - i thought you were running off the live cd right now.,07:44
SquirrelNo.07:44
solid_liqyou can always use an ethernet cable to connect first, then follow the online docs for configuring the wireless and switching to the wireless connection once you have it configured.  That's my preferred way of doing it.07:44
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Blaxticsome laptops can be a bitch to get going.... others are easy...  sometimes it does take a bit of work to get all hardware on a laptop working with linux - especially if you're using windows only hardware such as the broadcom nic's07:45
solid_liqIsil`Zha: what's maguma workbench?07:45
PoolBlaxtic:07:46
Poolthanks for the help, got it sorted07:46
Poolappreciate it :)07:46
Blaxticnp07:46
solid_liqI hate broadcom wireless nics07:46
SquirrelI'm actually looking into Linux because of the recent wave of pro-spyware legislation.07:46
solid_liqI bought an atheros based one just so I wouldn't have to deal with the broadcom bullshit07:46
Isil`Zhasolid_liq: a php ide. unfortunately only shipped as redhat or suse. the installation seems to be successful though07:47
solid_liqSquirrel: once you get fully settled into linux, you'll look down your nose at windows and avoid using it like the plague07:47
solid_liqIsil`Zha: you can always try KDevelop too and see if you like that instead07:47
BlaxticPool: i did what solid_liq is talking about... i used the built in nic which was automatically detected and intalled while i researched and finally figured out how to configure my wifi to work with kubuntu.07:48
solid_liqSquirrel: which reminds me, you might want to give KDevelop a try too in order to see if you like it better than IDLE07:48
SquirrelI'm finding the transition tricky. Kubuntu's supposed to be a user-friendly version, but it could use a tutorial saying "this is how you find files on your hard drive, this is how you install programs."07:48
Isil`Zhasolid_liq: i tried but i need something more targeted on php. it's not bad though07:48
BlaxticSquirrel: it's out there07:49
Blaxticjust a sec07:49
solid_liqIsil`Zha: ah ok.  I mostly develop in C++ and C, and sometimes just use a little Python, but I use vim and it works for me, so...07:49
SquirrelSolid: KDevelop? I'll look. I was able to create a new file on the desktop, give it a .py extension, and doodle some code with the editor apparently knowing how to autoformat it. But then I couldn't figure out how to run the thing or call console commands!07:49
SquirrelAnd I had to dig through the files just to confirm that Python was installed; it'd be helpful to have an icon for Python somewhere.07:50
solid_liqif any of you coders are old school, you may want to give vim a try.  It has a steep learning curve at first, but it's great once you get the hang of its very different ways of doing things07:50
Isil`Zhasolid_liq: yes i keep getting forwared to vim. :) it might not be a bad thing but i'm not familiar with vim at all and i fear i end up learning vim more than i actually program php07:50
solid_liqIsil`Zha: just type:    vim-tutor07:50
solid_liqIsil`Zha: it'll take a half an hour to go through the tutorial, but it'll be worth it07:51
solid_liqSquirrel: if you used Kate to edit it, then it can run terminal commands for you07:51
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Isil`Zhasolid_liq: ok i'll see if it is what i search. thank you07:52
SquirrelWell, there was some kind of "console" command, that gave me a little line to type in. I typed "print 2+2" and it gave an error.07:52
solid_liqSquirrel: but if you're coding in Python, you should get at least a little bit comfortable with the shell anyway.  That's the only way you'll ever have full power over your Python coding, on windows as well as on Linux07:52
solid_liqIsil`Zha: np07:52
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SquirrelHm? Oh, I can use the shell that's part of IDLE in Windows.07:52
solid_liqSquirrel: that's probably not a dos shell but a python shell...  it's different :)07:53
SquirrelPython shell, yes.07:53
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solid_liqSquirrel: here's a nice trick for ya:  on the first line of your python scripts, enter the following text07:53
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solid_liq#!/usr/bin/env python07:54
SquirrelWhich does?07:54
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solid_liqSquirrel: then make the file executable, either by editing the file permissions in the properties dialog for the file, on in a shell by typing:      chmod +x myprog.py07:54
solid_liqSquirrel: then the file itself will run when double clicked on or its name is typed at the shell07:55
solid_liqSquirrel: because that line I told you to put at the beginning tells the shell where to find the interpreter to run the file through07:55
SquirrelSo "chmod" changes file permissions?07:56
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Blaxticouch...07:56
SquirrelI don't want to release my source code.07:57
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solid_liqSquirrel: it just changes local file permissions, that's all.  The +x tells it to turn on the execute bit07:57
solid_liqSquirrel: you mean the precompiled .pyo files?07:58
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SquirrelI'm not sure what you mean. In Windows I have .py files that get compiled (I think) into .pyc files, but when I want to actually share a program I build an EXE.07:59
Blaxticokay - is anyone here familure with the alpha processor or linux running on the alpha?07:59
BlaxticSquirrel: you don't have "exe" on linux... it's either executable or it isn't08:00
SquirrelIs there a version of a Python program that can be distributed but not reverse-engineered?08:00
Blaxticyou don't have .com, .cmd, .bat, .exe....  tho you might have .z, .gz, tar, etc.08:01
solid_liqSquirrel: oh yeah, there are .pyc files too.  You can do the same on Linux, I'm just not sure how.  After 6 years with Linux the opensource philosophy has sunk into my brain and the idea of not giving out the source code for something I wrote in my spare time never enters my brain08:01
solid_liqSquirrel: and for work I use C/C++ so...08:01
SquirrelHm; I'm just a hobbyist but I'd like to develop something that'd actually make me a living.08:01
solid_liqwhat Blaxtic is getting at is Linux doesn't use file extensions to determine what kind of a file a file is, it uses metadata08:02
solid_liqSquirrel: you mean to start your own company, or just get yourself ready to get a job programming at an existing company?08:02
SquirrelMaybe the first one, someday.08:03
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solid_liqSquirrel: then you'll probably need to develop the software in C++ anyway08:03
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solid_liqSquirrel: professional shrinkwrapped apps are always written in C++, or to a much lesser extent nowadays, C08:04
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Blaxticdagnabbit...08:04
solid_liqBlaxtic: you're using kopete for irc?08:05
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Blaxticyeah... hate the damn thing...08:05
SquirrelI take it that if I boot from the Live CD, anything I do vanishes on shutdown?08:05
solid_liqBlaxtic: heh, I was just going to ask how it was for irc because I never tried;  I use Konversation.  It's pretty cool.  KSirc is a little more flushed out, but I'm using Konversation anyway :P08:06
solid_liqSquirrel: no, you can save data to a USB drive or to some space on the hard drive08:06
SquirrelHow do I save to the hard drive?08:07
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solid_liqSquirrel: but running off the LiveCD sucks because it's SOOOO SLOOOOW08:07
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Blaxticyeah i used to use konversation - liked it, but it didn't support jabber... moved to kopete because it offered a lot more proto's08:07
solid_liqSquirrel: I'm not sure, I've never run a LiveCD long enough to worry about it, I just know you can :)  sorry08:07
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solid_liqBlaxtic: well I always have kopete running for all my IM, I just use konversation for IRC08:08
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carloshello...anyone running compiz/xgl  :)08:08
solid_liqcarlos: I've tried it, it's cool, but it needs more than just a desktop switcher to be worthwhile08:09
solid_liqcarlos: and if you have ATI video hardware, forget about it08:09
carlosyeah its fun....needs to be polished, definitely08:09
Blaxticxgl... i don't have the balls to run it just yet... waiting for it to get a bit less buggy first.08:09
SquirrelWhat do you think of XSFE?08:09
solid_liqBlaxtic: just get that live cd that has it preconfigured.  The one that's based on gentoo08:10
Blaxtichrm... maybe i'll try that out... used to run gentoo anyway so shouldn't be too bad.08:10
solid_liqbut it doesn't work at all on my two computers that have ATI video08:10
solid_liqBlaxtic: heheh, me too.  I switched to Ubuntu when I got sick and tired of all the compiling :D08:11
Blaxticlmao - same here08:11
solid_liq:D08:11
SquirrelHuh. About half the download speed tonight.08:11
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Blaxtic:-( sorry Squirrel...08:12
SquirrelEh.08:12
SquirrelWell, thanks for the help.08:12
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Blaxtici got 5 cd's of solaris tonight and they were all going at 600KB/s08:13
solid_liqmy previous internet connection gave me a full 1 MB/s so long as the server I was pulling from had enough free bandwidth :D08:13
solid_liqnow I'm temporarily on 1.5 Mbit DSL :(08:14
SquirrelG'night!08:14
solid_liqSquirrel: night08:14
Blaxticyepper.. that's the deal with broadband08:14
Blaxticl8r squirrel08:14
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Blaxticso.. i take it there are no alpha users here?08:14
Blaxtic(or ex-users?)08:14
solid_liqwell I was in an area where I could get 8 Mbit cablemodem :D08:14
solid_liqBlaxtic: why are you asking?08:15
Blaxtici have one as of tonight... a compaq ds10 600Mhz 64-bit alpha server08:15
solid_liqand you want to know what distro will run on it?08:16
Blaxticwell - i was going to throw solaris on it, but...08:16
solid_liqbut solaris sucks compared to Linux?  :D08:16
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Blaxtici want it to be more of a a desktop...08:16
Blaxticyeah, well.. it depends on the application, eh. ;-)08:17
solid_liqBlaxtic: really?  why do you want to use a 600 Mhz machine for a desktop?08:17
Blaxticwell, not really a desktop - really a server, but a server that runs FreeNX (it will be headless) and can serve as a workstation...08:18
Blaxticmainly just an experimental box...08:18
solid_liqBlaxtic: ah08:18
solid_liqBlaxtic: well, I know gentoo supports the Alpha  ;)08:18
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Blaxticyeah yeah... i've thought about it, i just can't convince myself to go back to all the downloading and compiling of source...  maybe i should though...08:19
Blaxticanother thing is, gentoo isn't supported by many software vendors.08:19
solid_liqBlaxtic: I would bet there's a version of Debian for it too08:19
Blaxticyep - there is08:20
solid_liqBlaxtic: dunno how much recent support there'd be for it though08:20
solid_liqBlaxtic: you might still have to do a lot of compiling yourself anyway08:20
Blaxticdebian, gentoo, bsd, solaris08:20
solid_liqBlaxtic: and actually have to manually configure everything08:20
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solid_liqI'd say try debian first08:20
solid_liqit'll be a lot faster to install then gentoo :D08:21
Blaxticlol08:21
Blaxticyeah - maybe i'll do that.08:21
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Blaxtici've already gotten my solaris cd's downloaded.... maybe i'll download the latest debian release and try that first...08:22
solid_liqthe solaris hardware support will probably suck anyway08:22
solid_liqbrb08:22
Blaxticwell the solaris version i downloaded is made specifically for the this type of machine08:22
Blaxtick08:22
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kubulikiddhi all. I'm having trouble booting my system. deleted some files i think i shouldn't have09:33
kubulikiddneed some help please09:34
me2winkubulikidd: which files09:36
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kubulikiddme2win : not sure. I used adapt to remove files i think i didn't need. Now it won't boot up fully09:37
kubulikiddme2win: adept sry09:37
me2winkubulikidd: try doing a dist-upgrade09:37
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kubulikiddme2win: do i need net access to do that? Cause I may have removed dhcp09:38
me2winyeah you do09:39
kubulikiddoops09:39
kubulikiddso i'm screwed then!!!09:40
me2winlol09:40
me2wingotta try09:40
me2winotherwise back up your /home and reinstall09:40
kubulikiddi thought so.09:41
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kubulikiddthing is I started removing some progs and fell asleep at the monitor. god knows what else i removed09:41
kubulikiddhow do i go about backing up?09:42
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kubulikiddooooooooooooooooo09:44
kubulikiddcccccccccc09:44
kubulikiddcccccccccccccccccccccccccxxxxxxxxxll#09:45
kubulikidd.......09:46
_pipkubulikidd: hello!09:47
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kubulikiddsorry. my daughter gotto the keyboard09:48
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kacperhej, mam problem: co wpisa w fstab'ie eby zamontowa partycj ntfs? jak robi na defaults, to mi zmienia uprawnienia folderu w ktorym montuje, tak ze tylko root moze zobaczyc09:50
kacperreszte montuje na vfat i wszystko pieknie09:50
_pipkacper: ni shuo shenme nme ?09:51
_pipkacper: wo zenme kan bu dong a ?09:52
_pipkacper: ni  hui shuo ying yu ma ?09:52
Kev1n?????????????????09:52
kacperi'm sorry, -pip, i don't understand your language09:52
_pipkacper: ni shi na ge guo jia de a ?09:53
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kacperhi, i've got problem: what to enter in fstab to use ntfs partition? when i use defaults, then only root can see contains of folder09:54
kacperi mount rest of my partitons on vfat and everything's clear09:54
_pipkacper: it is dangerous09:56
kacperwhy?09:56
_pipkacper: last time ,I lose my MBR ,very dangerous09:56
kacperbut now i can't transfer my winshit's data to kubuntu09:57
kubulikiddpip: hello pip09:58
_pipkubulikidd: Hi09:58
thoreauputickubulikidd: sorry - I missed your msg10:02
kubulikiddthoreauputic : used adept to remove some progs last night. now i can't get it to boot up normally10:03
thoreauputickubulikidd: what did you remove?10:03
kubulikiddthoreauputic : well, i not sure. i removed what i thought was safe. now DHCP won't load10:04
thoreauputic!tell kacper about mountwindows10:04
thoreauputickubulikidd: won't load as in you can't get a lease?10:05
kubulikiddthoreauputic : i'll try booting again and note all the features fail10:05
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kubulikiddthoreauputic : not sure what that means10:05
thoreauputickubulikidd: in a terminal, what does    dpkg -l dhcp-client    say ?10:07
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kubulikiddthoreauputic : let me check10:07
thoreauputickubulikidd: hello ?10:11
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kubulikiddthoreauputic : sry. the pc is on another floor.10:13
alfatauhello, why i can't download the dapper dvd iso with wget? it downloads 0Bytes and then terminates.10:13
alfataufrom: http://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/ubuntu-cdimage/kubuntu/dvd/current/dapper-dvd-i386.iso10:13
thoreauputickubulikidd: so you can't get on line with the Ubuntu/Kubuntu PC?10:14
kacperthank you very very much10:14
kacpersee you later10:14
kubulikiddnoo10:14
thoreauputickubulikidd: do you still have my email address?  peter-garrett@ubuntu.com  Maybe it would be a better way to do this10:15
kubulikiddyes10:15
thoreauputickubulikidd: so send the output of that command and we'll go from there10:16
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kubulikiddthoreauputic : ok. might take a while cause i have to write everything down then send from this pc10:18
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thoreauputickubulikidd: well, I'm on line for about 2 to 3 hours from now10:19
thoreauputickubulikidd: I might not be able to answer immediately though10:19
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thoreauputickubulikidd: actually also send the output of   dpkg -l dhcp3-client  (that should be installed I would think)10:23
kubulikiddthoreauputic : it reads <none> (no description available)10:24
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thoreauputickubulikidd: try  sudo apt-get install dhcp3-client10:24
thoreauputicit should say " already the newest version" - if not, install it10:25
thoreauputicbut the catch is you will need your install CD10:25
thoreauputicand it needs to be in your /etc/apt/sources.list file ( the CD)10:26
kubulikidd thoreauputic : dhcp3-client    3.0.2-1ubuntu7 DHCPclient10:27
thoreauputickubulikidd: hm OK10:28
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thoreauputicyou have it then10:28
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thoreauputickubulikidd: what actually happens when you try to get on line?10:28
kubulikiddthoreauputic : well, I can only log on in recovery mode. can't get a GUI10:29
thoreauputickubulikidd: ah I see10:29
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thoreauputickubulikidd: from recovery mode, try   /etc/init.d/kdm start10:29
thoreauputicassuming you run kubuntu10:29
kubulikiddthoreauputic : yes. i do10:30
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thoreauputickubulikidd: so see if that command works to get a login screen10:30
thoreauputicfrom the root prompt in recovery mode10:30
kubulikiddthoreauputic ; let me try that. be right back10:30
thoreauputick10:30
kubulikiddthoreauputic ; nothing happened10:32
thoreauputickubulikidd: as in no output at all ??10:32
kubulikiddthoreauputic ; but i did  ping yahoo.com and i got a reply10:32
thoreauputicOK well you are on line10:33
kubulikiddthoreauputic : yes. just returned the prompt10:33
thoreauputickubulikidd: what does   which kdm  say ?10:33
thoreauputicjust   which kdm10:33
kubulikiddhold10:33
kubulikiddthoreauputic ; it returns nothing10:35
thoreauputickubulikidd: run this10:35
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thoreauputicoh hang on a sec10:35
thoreauputicOK10:35
thoreauputicrun this10:35
thoreauputicsudo apt-get install kdm10:36
kubulikiddok10:36
thoreauputicthen run10:36
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thoreauputic/etc/init.d/kdm restart10:36
Shan`<Shan`> whats my hd number and partition if i have my /boot on /dev/hda110:36
kubulikiddthoreauputic : apt-get command not found10:37
thoreauputickubulikidd: you seem to be in deep trouble...10:37
kubulikiddlol10:37
kubulikiddi know10:37
thoreauputickubulikidd: what's your user name ?10:38
Shan`sudo?10:38
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thoreauputicShan`: she's at a recovery prompt10:38
Shan`k10:38
thoreauputickubulikidd: you are seeing a # prompt, right?10:38
thoreauputicie root prompt10:38
thoreauputickubulikidd: try changing to your user and then using sudo like this:10:39
kubulikiddthoreauputic: ~$10:39
Shan`./dev/hda1 = (hd0,0)?10:39
thoreauputickubulikidd: erm10:39
Shan`cos grubs giving me an error10:39
thoreauputickubulikidd: that isn't recovery mode then10:39
kubulikiddthoreauputic : oh? sorry10:40
thoreauputickubulikidd: try  sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart10:40
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thoreauputickubulikidd: what does the command   whoami   return ?10:40
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kubulikiddhold pls10:41
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cyberserverHi people. I'm setting up kubuntu on a AMD64 machine, but I', not willing to deal with 64 bit problems like not having Java Sun, flash plugin or whatver... so I decided to do a 32 bit install... Can I use a optimized kernel or do I need to use the -386 one? Is -k7 kernel better for AMD64 machines than -i386 kernel?10:42
thoreauputickubulikidd: if the system can't find apt-get you are in deep trouble10:42
Tm_Tcyberserver: sure -k7 is better10:42
thoreauputickubulikidd: you can try running  sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a  ( ahs been known to fix a borked system)10:43
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kubulikiddthoreauputic : whoami   returned lyndy10:43
thoreauputic*has10:43
thoreauputickubulikidd: as expected10:43
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thoreauputickubulikidd:  so,,,,10:43
thoreauputickubulikidd: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a10:44
thoreauputickubulikidd: I think your whole system is broken10:44
kubulikiddthoreauputic: ok10:44
cyberserverTm_T : Thanks. I was not sure as AMD64 is called "k8" and the installer does not install -k7 kernel autommatically (if I use this installer in a p4, it will install a -686 kernel)10:44
thoreauputickubulikidd: leave most things at default and don't be too worried about the questions10:44
thoreauputickubulikidd: it should ask for a root password, if it works at all...10:45
[muttox] trying to get mp3s to work with amarok under dapper, could someone point out what package id need for that?10:46
thoreauputic!mp310:47
Glin|JolWinamp  5.20 Stopped10:47
uboturumour has it, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats10:47
[muttox] yeah tried installing everythign under dapper in the list, still doesnt play10:48
noiesmo[muttox] , I use xmms for mp310:48
thoreauputic[muttox] : try installin amarok-xine and selecting the xine engine in amarok10:48
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[muttox] thoreauputic: already done it doesnt play anything though10:49
thoreauputic[muttox] : try asking in #ubuntu+1  for dapper questions10:50
[muttox] ta10:50
noiesmo[muttox] , or use xmms10:50
[muttox] lol normally i would, but i want to test an integrated environment, so i can recommend it to others10:51
[muttox] gentoo is a little too much for the people i want to get using linux10:51
kubulikiddthoreauputic : sry that did not work either10:51
thoreauputickubulikidd: define "didn't work"10:52
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thoreauputicwhat happened?10:52
kubulikiddthoreauputic : i also changed t osuperuser and no output10:52
kubulikiddchanged to a # at the prompt10:52
thoreauputickubulikidd: when you typed  sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a  you got no output at all ?10:52
thoreauputicnot even "command not found" ?10:53
thoreauputickubulikidd: you didn't do anything silly like using automatix, did you ?10:54
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kubulikiddthoreauputic : it returned command not found10:54
kubulikiddno. did not use automatix10:54
thoreauputickubulikidd: then your system is totally b0rked, sorry10:54
kubulikiddlol10:54
kubulikiddhave got the install cd10:55
thoreauputickubulikidd: I have no idea what you did to get to this point10:55
kubulikiddi guess thats the last resort10:55
thoreauputicit's almost impossible to break dpkg like that...10:55
kubulikiddcan i back up my /home?10:55
thoreauputickubulikidd: use a live CD, and tranfer your data over the network if possible10:55
kubulikiddthoreauputic : can i find the missing files from the cd? Using the recovery prompt?10:56
thoreauputickubulikidd: you must have uninstalled something crucial, methinks10:57
thoreauputickubulikidd: now you can't use dpkg or apt-get at all it seems10:57
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kubulikiddok10:57
thoreauputichow you managed to do that is another question...10:58
thoreauputicyou musthave real talent ;-)10:58
thoreauputicjust kidding :)10:58
kubulikiddthoreauputic : I think its a lack of talent rather10:58
kubulikiddlol10:58
thoreauputic:)10:58
thoreauputicsorry to be the bearer of bad tidings10:59
kubulikiddthoreauputic : well, thanks for  your help. you've been great.10:59
thoreauputickubulikidd: in general if you're about to do something terminal , apt tends to spit out a lot of dire warnings to stop you breaking your system10:59
kubulikiddthoreauputic: i've got a copy in of my files in windows anyway10:59
thoreauputickubulikidd: OK - well I think this is one of the rare cases where a reinstall is the easiest option11:00
kubulikiddthoreauputic: can't remember seeing that though. But i was half asleep anyway11:00
thoreauputickubulikidd: from bitter experience: do not do system admin while sleepy11:00
thoreauputic;)11:00
kubulikiddthoreauputic: learnt the hard way, eh?? lol11:01
thoreauputickubulikidd: indeed11:01
thoreauputickubulikidd: i was able to bring the machine back from the dead, but it required a degree of Debian-fu ;)11:02
kubulikiddthoreauputic: so basically if i had apt-get I could restore everything from the net??11:03
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thoreauputickubulikidd: yes, if it was working - for instance you could do sudo apt-get -f install11:03
kubulikiddok11:03
thoreauputicor sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop11:03
thoreauputicetc11:04
thoreauputicbut since apt and dpkg have taken a permanent vacation on your machine...11:04
kubulikiddlol11:04
thoreauputicyou are basically stuffed - to use a highly techmical term11:04
kubulikiddwell....11:04
kubulikiddthoreauputic : will get on with the re-install then11:06
thoreauputickubulikidd: sounds like a plan :)11:06
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kubulikiddthoreauputic: will let u know how i get on. will drop u a mail11:07
thoreauputickubulikidd: I await your communication with interest :)11:07
PentooUserhello11:07
kubulikiddthoreauputic : thanks. out ..........11:08
thoreauputicbye :)11:08
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nico8481hi11:39
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ninHertatilhi all11:41
ninHertatilcan anyone check kriptopolis.org?11:42
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rockin_stanninHer: up and running11:56
ninHeroops11:56
ninHernot port 8011:56
ninHeri mean the web site11:57
rockin_stanninHer: htaccess protected11:57
ninHeryep11:57
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cyberserverHi. I was making the package for java-sun and I see it saying "no gcc found" .  Is gcc desirable for java compilation? It does not make sense to me, what do you think about this? Do we have a speed improvement if we use it? Will it create a dependency? I'd prefer not having gcc on my machines, altough I need jre..11:58
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thoreauputic!java12:01
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs12:01
protocol1or you can try !easyubuntu12:01
protocol1!easyubuntu12:02
ubotueasyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu12:02
thoreauputiccyberserver: gcc is quite handy at times :)12:02
thoreauputic!info build-essential12:02
ubotubuild-essential: (informational list of build-essential packages), section devel, is optional. Version: 11.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 6 kB, Installed size: 48 kB12:02
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cyberserverthoreauputic: I'm following RestrictedFormats wikipage... I'm building a set of machines for public (guest) use where I'd rather have no gcc for security reasons... I have a (similar) separated machine where I can compile needed stuf, package it, and then deploy on the "production" machines..12:04
thoreauputiccyberserver: I see12:05
cyberserverthoreauputic: The wiki page says nothing about gcc. I've sucessfully packaged java without it, I was just wondering about the messages about it looking for gcc. Wondering if there was any gain out of it :-p12:06
cyberserver!javadebs12:06
thoreauputiccyberserver: I imagine once you have a java package, it should install OK12:06
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cyberserverLol... ubotu does not answer to its own tip about !javadebs12:06
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thoreauputictry !javadeb12:07
cyberserverthoreauputic: Thanks for replying!12:07
thoreauputicsingukar12:07
cyberserver!javadeb12:07
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thoreauputicheh * singular12:07
cyberserverAH! it replied to me directly! I tought it would reply to the list :-p I had not seem the pvt window12:08
thoreauputiccyberserver: it does that with long factoids to avoid spamming the channel12:08
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thoreauputiccyberserver: very polite bot ;)12:09
thoreauputic!good bot12:09
ubotuthanks thoreauputic :)12:09
thoreauputic:)12:09
_pip!good bot12:10
ubotuthanks _pip :)12:10
_pipubotu: you are welcome12:11
ubotu_pip: I think you lost me on that one12:11
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Kev1n!javadeb12:14
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cyberserver!good bot12:18
ubotu:)12:18
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bismarckam1803anyone know how to add the extensive server list that is present in fedora's xirc?12:19
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uroshi all - i have somehow turned translucency on - no idea how, because I was fooling around with KDE to test it - it is now impossible to get rid of it - in sys settings/style it is off, but it is still working - please help as my computer is too slow for this12:29
urosis there a quick way to restore KDE to "factory settings"?12:29
cyberserver!wiki12:29
jpatrickuros: restart X12:30
cyberserverWho should I contact for comments of wiki pages? The wikipage last editor?12:31
urosjpatrick: even restarted the computer (several times) and it didn't help12:32
n3stormcyberserver: which wiki?12:32
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cyberserverIn RestrictedFormats page, there is a comment about "Selecting the default Java version" which does not seem to aply to everyone...12:34
cyberservern3storm: wiki.kubuntu.org/RestrictedFormats12:34
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cyberserverIt's mentioned that we can change the alternatives for jar, javac, javadoc, javap and javaws12:35
cyberserverand it's not true, at least for the ones that packages the JRE ...  or maybe I skipped a step somewhere... I dont have those alternatives12:36
Terminuscyberserver: you mean regarding java applets in konqueror?12:36
n3stormcyberserver: If you are enough sure about that change it your self: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UserPreferences12:37
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n3stormget a login there and make the needed corrections12:38
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urosstill translucency problems - can't turn it off. n1 willing to invest a liitle help?12:41
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cyberservern3storm, Terminus: i would have to try installing the SDK to be 100% sure, I'm thinking that that only applies to people who install the java SDK and not to the ones that installed the JRE. I would prefer to discuss this with the one that wrote this.. maybe it was FredrikWent (its the last editor). How can I find his e-mail?12:42
waylandbillhello, I run ntpdate from a prompt and it sets my clock to UTC. How do I tell it my timezone?12:42
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Terminuscyberserver: dunno how. just thought i'd ask what you were having problems about coz i had problems with JRE yesterday. it was konqueror not using the defaults you set in /etc/alternatives12:48
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n3stormcyberserver: click on latestchanges button12:51
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n3stormalos click on Information and you will see a history of the document12:52
n3stormin fact, click everywhere! using wikis is free and fun!12:53
n3storm;)12:53
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burepeyou are just extending the drive length right?12:55
burepeooops12:55
burepeHow do I change file associations in the gui?12:55
Terminuswaylandbill: tzconfig i think12:56
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PupenoHow do I list all the keyboard layouts and their variants ? (I am trying to get pc-dvorak-latin1 to work)01:03
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cyberservern3storm: yep :-p   But unfortunately I've not been able to reach the person information. I already know it was him that placed that tip, but I found no contact info attached01:06
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Kamping_Kaiserhi patrick_01:07
n3stormcyberserver: I see, he didn't left any contact info...01:07
n3stormcyberserver: don't know01:08
patrick_Kamping_Kaiser: lost my connection....01:08
Kamping_Kaiser:(01:08
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uniqpupeno: for console? - 'dpkg -L console-data|grep keymaps|more'01:24
Pupenouniq: I am more interesting on X, but it seems I'll have to make my own keymap.01:25
uniqin X it's more complicated. I would start looking at the xkeyboard-config package.01:26
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tristanmikeRiddell, wow, I just read your interview on Kubuntu.org and I saw that you have Irn-Bru which is your most popular soft-drink, that's amazing because I'm from Cape Breton, Nova Scotia, Canada and we also have Irn Bru (no hyphen :P) and it is my favorite soft drink, way better than coke or pepsi. I just wonder how similar it is to yours, that's great. Sorry for the offtopic but it blew my mind when I saw it...so that's where that great01:27
tristanmike drink comes from, thanx :)01:27
Riddelltristanmike: Good to know Nova Scotia keeps some of its Scottish heritage :)01:28
Riddellthat's really cool01:28
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tristanmikeRiddell, absolutely, actually, we are very proud of our Scottish heritage :)  We take pride in our tartan's =)01:29
Pupenowhat was the name of the program to see the keycodes of keys on X ?01:30
Pupenoas they are pressed, the XEvents to be more precise.01:30
RiddellPupeno: xev01:31
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cyberserverGuys, stupid question: do we use OSS or ALSA? I had the feeling that all 2.6.x used ALSA, but I'm not sure...01:43
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Terminuscyberserver: alsa.01:44
PupenoRiddell: thanks.01:45
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kersozhi people01:48
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kersozI have a question01:48
jpatrickfire away01:48
kersozI just installed KUBUNTU latest version for AMD6401:48
kersozI want to install firefox 1.501:49
jpatrick!firefox1.501:49
ubotuYou can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion01:49
kersozbut I couldnt so far01:49
kersozis that too difficult?01:50
jpatrickfollow the link01:50
kersozI looked to page now01:50
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kersozI am not a good linux user01:50
kersozI am novice01:50
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kersozcan I do it of my own?01:50
Nomad411Hi all.. I'm trying to connect korganizer through ical with the google calendar.  Can't figure it out yet on the korganizer side. anyone doing it?01:51
Nomad411!ical01:51
ubotuBugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Nomad41101:51
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Terminuskersoz: try reading the stuff at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoftwareManagement to be exact. :)01:53
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maike-maushello. I have a problem by playing a wmv file. does anybody have an idea for resolving this?02:08
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mindspinyou have win32 codecs installed?02:09
mindspin!codecs02:09
ubotuBinary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories02:09
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Kev1n!easysource02:39
ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic02:39
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xanax`hello02:42
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misterhello02:42
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cromoguys I finally managed to run cups here02:45
cromohad to change localhost to 127.0.0.102:45
cromoother problem is that I can't access cups configuration from within kdeprint, I had to add printer from cups web interface02:46
cromothat's my common problem, I never managed to run configuration from kdeprint, it always complains about password or permissions02:46
cromodapper here BTW02:46
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cromok it works02:54
cromoI mean it doesn't ;)02:54
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charlotte#!lille!03:03
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Cha81_nopvhello03:04
Cha81_nopv!lag03:04
ubotuI give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Cha81_nopv03:04
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maike-maushi, I'd like to modify the sources.list  -  for this I opened it with a tex editor and tried to paste an other list into it. but the program doesn't allow it... does anyone have an idea?03:10
Terminusmaike-maus: you have to be root to be able to do so.03:11
Terminusmaike-maus: like 'sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list'03:11
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Terminus!root03:12
ubotuBy default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.03:12
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shreevatsaamarok... The MusicBrainz thing isn't working for mp3 files03:13
alfatauhello, i upgraded from breezy to dapper, and now my bootscreen is blank, while systen boots up, and kde starts. i temporary solved setting "vga=normal" for grub, but, what could be due this behaviour? i would have my 1024x768 shell resolution again...03:13
shreevatsaIt says "The track was not found in the MusicBrainz" database, for *all* mp3 files I have (very quickly; faster than it can connect and find out), and it works for .ogg files03:14
shreevatsaAnd I see the message "QObject::connect: Cannot connect QSignal::signal(const QVariant&) to (null)::(null)" in the konsole (where I started Amarok from)03:14
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shreevatsaAnd I read somewhere on the net this might be caused by having qt compiled on gcc 3.4, or something of that sort03:16
shreevatsaActually, I noticed I see that error message even for the .ogg files... so it's something unrelated03:16
shreevatsaWhy doesn't the MusicBrainz feature work with .mp3s?03:16
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bpmhy all03:23
jpatrickbpm: hi03:23
bpmcan anybody help me03:23
bpmi do not know how to patch a file03:23
bpmhttp://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=1525537403:23
bpmi need this patch03:23
bpmhow can i do this?03:24
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bpmplease03:29
shreevatsabpm: Look at man patch03:29
shreevatsabpm: I don't know any more than that, sorry03:30
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bpmhmmm03:37
bpmis there any synce channel on irc?03:37
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davixhow do I play .ape in kubuntu?03:40
bhnadavix: whats *.ape?03:41
davixit's a new format of music03:41
davixalot like mp3 but higher quality03:41
davixalso smaller compresion rate03:41
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bhnadavix: http://sourceforge.net/projects/mac-port/03:44
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davixthanks i'll look into this03:45
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Nookie^hi! in kcontrol there is something called gtk-styles normaly but i have only installed main kde and now i dont see that section? what should i do to get it there?03:57
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kettenschutzhey there04:06
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kettenschutzich hab da n kleines problem mit ubuntu04:06
kettenschutzbin hier auf kompletten neuland mit linux04:07
kettenschutzwie kann ich mich bers Terminal als ROOT ein- und wieder ausloggen?04:07
kettenschutzwill was verschieben aber der ordner ist fr mich als normaluser gesperrt04:07
xanax`kettenschutz : and in english ?04:07
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kettenschutzhey xanax, how to logon @ the ubuntu terminal as the root user?04:08
xanax`just type " su "04:08
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kettenschutzjeah thats to execute one term04:09
kettenschutzbut i want to completely logon as root04:09
kettenschutzand then to logoff, howto?04:09
kettenschutzi thin in suse it just was "login"!!?04:09
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xwolf-if you 'su', your shell will turn into root@yourpc:/whatever#04:10
xwolf-that's root until you 'exit'04:10
kettenschutzaaaaaaaaah04:10
kettenschutzok i try it04:10
kettenschutzthe terminal said "authentification failure"04:11
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kettenschutzbit its the right pw ?! :/04:11
xwolf-your root one :)04:11
kettenschutzyeah i typed my rootPW in the console04:12
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kettenschutzim sure that this is my pw04:12
xwolf-hm, try opening kuser and changing it04:12
MrKubuntuUserello.  I'm getting really slow output from lp0... when I output text, it prints a few lines, stops, prints a few more lines, stops, etc.  Anybody know what I could check to get lp0 going at its normal speed?04:13
MrKubuntuUserI'm running Kubuntu 6.06 Flight 6, up-to-date as of this morning.04:13
davixhow do I check my free hd space?04:14
markriandavix: df -h04:14
xwolf-davix 'df -h'04:14
davixthanks04:14
kettenschutzsomeone got an idea?04:15
xwolf-kettenschutz have you tried changing your pw in kuser?04:15
xanax`davix : launch KDiskFree04:15
kettenschutzi can change my root pw?04:15
kettenschutzhowto @ xwolf?04:15
kettenschutzxwolf--> privat?04:15
xwolf-kettenschutz alt+f2 -> kuser04:15
markrianI'm running Kubuntu dapper and I've installed KOffice 1.5 as described at kubuntu.org. Thing is, no app works. When I try to run say kword, I get: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/65955204:15
markrianAs far as I can tell, the file kwordpart.desktop is not installed by any package04:16
xwolf-kettenschutz edit the root account, just changing its password04:16
markrianSo what am I missing?04:16
xwolf-isnt kwordpart.desktop just a shortcut?04:17
MrKubuntuUserAnybody?  Why is my parallel port much slower under Kubuntu than under Win2K?04:17
kettenschutzyeah great04:17
kettenschutzworks, thanks ppls ::::))))04:17
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brandon_MrKubuntuUser: maybe it's not the port, but the printer driver04:18
markrianxwolf-: well, sort of, yeah, but it's quite an important one it seems!04:18
kettenschutzand one other question04:18
kettenschutzhow to extract files via the terminal? cause i need root rights to extract04:18
xwolf-markrian haha, well, i don't know, never used dapper... try finding the exact launcher, not the shortcut04:19
markrianMrKubuntuUser: there's probably a way to configure the speed of the parallel port, it might well not be set to the maximum04:19
xwolf-kettenschutz tar.gz?04:19
MrKubuntuUserbrandon_:  I thought it was CUPS too, but I tried "cat (file) > /dev/lp0" as root and it was also slow04:19
kettenschutzyep @ xwolf04:19
markrianxwolf-: no, that's the thing, there is no launcher - no .desktop files have been installed at all04:19
MrKubuntuUsermarkrian:  Is that a Kubuntu setting?  I had Win2K on this same machine and my parallel receipt printer flew.  Now it lurches along very slowly.04:20
xwolf-kettenschutz i'd say 'tar -xzvf file.tar.gz', but you should google it or 'man tar'04:20
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kettenschutzwhere can i specify the target folder04:21
xwolf-type 'man tar' in the shell, there's gotta have something there04:21
trappistor use ark04:21
xwolf-trappist indeed.04:22
xwolf-kettenschutz if you want gui, you can run "kdesu konqueror" and you'll be navigating as root04:22
markrianMrKubuntuUser: it's a linux setting most likely04:23
MrKubuntuUsermarkrian:  Any idea where I could find that (or being looking for it)?04:23
markrianMrKubuntuUser: I don't expect there's a simple GUI to set the parallel port speed...04:23
markrianMrKubuntuUser: my first instinct is to look for information about the parallel port linux modules lp and parport_pc04:25
markrianIt doesn't sound particularly pleasant04:25
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trappisthave a look in /proc/sys/dev/parport/parport004:26
trappistcould be a dma issue04:27
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kettenschutzok all worked fine :)04:28
kettenschutzcan u tell me how to install KDE Themes?04:28
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MrKubuntuUsermarkrian:  is it worth trying to use the parport_pc module (it is a module, right?) instead of lp?04:28
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markrianMrKubuntuUser: parport_pc should already be in use I should think - do "lsmod | grep parport"04:29
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markrianIf it comes up then it's already loaded04:29
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pcthi04:31
MrKubuntuUsermarkrian:  It listed "parport".  I did modprobe parport_pc and now it lists both parport and parport_pc04:31
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kettenschutzhey, someone knows how to install kde themes?04:36
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kettenschutzi've completed the rules @ the readme file but it wont work04:36
cromoguys, I know I should ask in ubuntu-xgl and I already did, but the people seem to be dead there04:38
cromoI don't have gnome-window-decorator here04:39
cromoand seems that no packages has it04:39
cromowhat should I do?04:39
cromoanyone got xgl working with kde and newest fglrx?04:39
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martinjh99Allo is there a Dapper version of Koffice1.5 out yet??04:40
markrianmartinjh99: yep04:41
markriansee kubuntu.org!04:41
martinjh99:) Just found it thanks!!04:41
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markrianmartinjh99: the packages don't work for me though, not sure why04:42
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markrianWell, I know why, they don't seem to be packaged correctly04:43
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beefsprocketthe ssl certificate for wiki.kunbutu.org isn't totally kubuntu...04:46
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robinl1blahhey05:14
robinl1blahhow to set the DPI?05:14
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robinl1blahhow to set the DPI?05:16
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bsrhi there...I've got some questions regarding buying a new graphic card. My current ATI 9600 XT has some issues with the memory.. any advice on what to bu.. nvidia or ATI ( I haven't ahd any problems yet with my ATI) ?05:17
davixWaaaaaaaaaalt05:18
robinl1blahhow to set the DPI? need fast answer.05:18
kettenschutzhey, one question again :)05:19
kettenschutzhow to roll out the cdrom drives? they wont react if i press the button05:20
bhnadavix: do you know google?05:20
robinl1blah....05:20
bhnadavix: or the ubuntu wiki?05:20
robinl1blahwhy am i being ignored everywhere?!05:20
bhnarobinl1blah: try google or ubuntu-wiki05:21
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beefsprocketrobinl1blah: the dpi of what?05:21
robinl1blahbhna: already did05:21
robinl1blahbeefsprocket: X05:21
beefsprocketyou mean your screen resolution or fonts?05:22
robinl1blahscreen resolution05:22
robinl1blahlike, wtf these fonts are killing me they are way too big05:22
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beefsprocketwhich res are you trying to use then?05:22
robinl1blahbut the resolution is good. 1280x102405:22
robinl1blahbut the fonts are at 12 at default..05:22
robinl1blahwell.. it looks awful05:22
robinl1blahwant a screenshot?05:22
davixbhna, yes, how is it related to walt?05:23
beefsprocketok, so make them 11 or 10 -- i use 1600x1200 and changed all the fonts to 1005:23
beefsprocketlooks great05:23
robinl1blahno, changing the dpi is better.05:23
robinl1blahdo you even know what dpi is? >_<05:23
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beefsprocketyes robinl1blah I do, I change the dpi for firefox and thunderbird quite frequently05:24
robinl1blahDots per inch; standard of measurement for the resolution of images. The higher the DPI, the higher the resolution.05:24
robinl1blahso I need 96 dpi05:24
robinl1blahon a 1280x1024 resolution05:24
robinl1blah:{05:24
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mindspinits somewehere in system settings I guess05:25
mindspinappearance maybe?05:25
bhnarobinl1blah: http://tlug.up.ac.za/wiki/index.php/Xorg_Qt_GTK_fonts05:25
robinl1blahyay! ^^05:25
kettenschutzhey, please guys, try to help eh!?05:26
bhnarobinl1blah: google is your friend ;-)05:27
beefsprocketso is ubuntuforums: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=124446&highlight=kubuntu+96dpi05:27
mindspin!ubotu tell kettenschutz about ask05:27
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kettenschutzmindspin, ive asked a few lines be4^^05:28
kettenschutz<kettenschutz> hey, one question again :)05:28
kettenschutz[17:20]  <kettenschutz> how to roll out the cdrom drives? they wont react if i press the button05:28
mindspinic05:28
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DeadS0ulkettenschutz: umount the cd05:28
DeadS0ulthat should wrok05:28
kettenschutzyay howto do that?05:29
DeadS0ulumount /dev/cdrom05:29
kettenschutzi neveever got the option unmount if i rightclicked the cd icon05:29
DeadS0uloh05:29
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MacAnthonydo you get an eject option?05:29
kettenschutznope, thats the problem05:30
DeadS0ulopen a console and type mount05:30
mindspinI know that issue is coming up randomly at my system but sudo umount /dev/cdrom should do05:30
DeadS0ulit'll list all the mounted paritions, see if it says /dev/cdrom or /media/cdrom05:30
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DeadS0ulmindspin: I guess I'll find out soon enough, gonna install kubuntu on here05:31
kettenschutzyay works05:31
kettenschutz:)05:31
kettenschutzthanks guys05:31
DeadS0ulnp05:31
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davixis there all seeing eye replacment for kubuntu?05:32
kettenschutzehm, another "problem", u know how to install KDE themes? i tried everthing @ the install notes but it wont work05:32
DeadS0ulwhat have you tried?05:33
kettenschutzbut another thing shortly, my ark program wont work fine, it wont extract files. there are another extract programm for ubuntu?05:34
DeadS0ulusually you have to have tar/zip/unrar installed for those to work properly05:34
kettenschutzcan i install those via synaptic?05:35
DeadS0ulyeap05:35
DeadS0ulor kpackage05:35
_masterdid azures have a search tool ?05:35
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kettenschutzonly got adept and syn...05:35
_robini love kde05:35
_robinxD05:35
DeadS0ulI usually use command line to install my packages, it's jsut two commands05:35
DeadS0ulapt-cache search <keyword> for finding what I want, apt-get install <package> to install05:36
kettenschutzthe thing is the following: i've downloaded a theme, and its packed with GZIP05:36
_robinthe update long takie05:36
_robin:|05:36
kettenschutzbut i cant extract the theme, ARK doesnt do something05:37
DeadS0ulgzip...05:37
kettenschutzoh, no .. tar.bz205:37
DeadS0ulinstall bzip05:38
kettenschutzwhere to find?05:38
DeadS0ulsudo apt-get install bzip2 I think05:38
davixis there all seeing eye replacment for kubuntu?05:38
kettenschutzah okay i try05:38
DeadS0ulwhat's an all seeing eye?05:38
davixgame servers lister05:38
DeadS0uloh, I dunno bout those05:38
davix"All Seeing Eye" (ASE)05:38
kettenschutzUnable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?05:39
DeadS0ulsudo apt-get install bzip205:39
davixkettenschutz, sudo mate or check if it's runing05:39
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kettenschutzare there a taskmanager or something like that in ubuntu?05:40
DeadS0ulyeap05:40
DeadS0ulhit ctrl+esc05:40
kettenschutzso i can check if ark or something is running05:40
kettenschutzok ark is running but cant be killed05:40
DeadS0ulit's call ksystemguard05:41
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kettenschutzi got ksysguard and ksysguardd05:41
DeadS0ulksystemguard05:42
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kettenschutznope05:42
DeadS0ultried ctrl+esc?05:42
kettenschutzdoes ubuntu got a firewall?05:42
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kettenschutzyay i tried ctrl and esc05:42
kettenschutzah bzip instal works yet, but its allready installed05:43
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DeadS0ulthe firewall is part of the linux kernel, you can use a program call kmyfirewall to configure it05:43
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kettenschutzok cool05:44
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DeadS0ulcan't unzip the bzip file yet?05:44
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kettenschutznope05:44
DeadS0ulcrap05:44
DeadS0ultry closing and opening ark again05:45
kettenschutzark cant be closed05:45
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DeadS0ulwha05:45
DeadS0ulhit ctrl+alt+esc05:45
DeadS0uland then click on ark05:45
DeadS0ulit'll kill it05:45
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larkinHello, I am in need of assistance in installing GCC, can anybody step me through the process?05:55
zblachquick question. how can I access my existing network windows shares?05:56
larkinuse the samba client05:57
zblachlarkin: yeah, but how to configure it in kde 3.5.1?05:57
larkingood question05:59
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larkinzblach, do you know how to install GCC?05:59
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Crashoveridehey all, Im havig trouble with my kubuntu I wasnt aware it had any firewalls but it wont let port 22 out can someone help me? I dont know how.06:05
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_robinhow to get the newest KDE?06:06
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ccc__robin: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-352.php06:06
jpatrick!kde35206:06
ubotujpatrick: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/06:06
Crashoveridehey all, Im havig trouble with my kubuntu I wasnt aware it had any firewalls but it wont let port 22 out can someone help me? I dont know how.06:07
_robinyay ^^06:07
_robinYAY! ^^06:08
Crashoveridelol06:09
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Crashoveride_robin: happy much?06:09
Crashoverideanyone know how to unblock port 22 in kubuntu?06:09
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beefsprocketCrashoveride: it shouldn't be blocked I don't think06:10
beefsprocketCrashoveride: if its a firewall issue, try kmyfirewall06:10
nico8481Crashoveride: are you sure the ssh daemon is running? :-)06:11
Crashoverideum not sure06:11
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beefsprocketCrashoveride: sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start will tell you06:11
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_robinhey06:12
_robinhe following packages have been kept back:06:12
_robin  akregator ark artsbuilder kaddressbook kamera kappfinder karm kate06:12
_robinand the list goes on06:12
_robinall kde apps06:12
_robinanyone know whats wrong?06:12
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Crashoveride* Starting OpenBSD Secure Shell server...                               [fail] 06:12
Crashoveride* Starting OpenBSD Secure Shell server...                               [fail] 06:12
Crashoverideoops osrry06:12
_robinxD06:12
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nico8481_robin: maybe there are no new versions of them?06:13
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Crashoveridenico8481: any ideas? this is what is says "* Starting OpenBSD Secure Shell server...                               [fail] "06:14
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nico8481Crashoveride: nope... try running it from the command line to see if it says more things...06:15
nico8481sshd06:15
_robinerr06:15
_robin!kde3506:15
ubotuI give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, _robin06:15
_robin!kde35206:15
ubotuI haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, _robin06:15
apokryphos!kde 3.5.206:15
ubotuapokryphos: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/06:15
_robini installed kde 3.5.2 and..06:15
apokryphos!listvalues kde06:15
_robin.... about dialogs still say kde 4.3. something06:15
_robinalso,06:15
apokryphos!kde3.5.206:15
_robinThe following packages have been kept back:06:15
_robin  akregator ark artsbuilder kaddressbook kamera kappfinder karm kate06:15
ubotukde3.5.2 is, like, totally, to upgrade to KDE3.5.2, Follow the instructions at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-352.php (add the deb...line to your sources.list). Then "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".06:15
_robinfor all packages06:15
_robinso what's wrong?06:17
zblachcan one configure samba through the system settings in 3.5.1?06:17
_robinzblach: #kubuntu-offtopic06:18
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_robinanyone?06:18
zblachyeah, samba in kubuntu06:19
zblachnot in the system settings this time?06:19
_robinzblach: #kubuntu-offtopic ._.06:19
zblach'sdead06:19
_robinthis too06:19
_robini need help with this06:20
_robini messed up my installation i think06:20
zblachwhat's 'this'?06:20
_robininstalled the new KDE06:20
_robinbut the dialogs still say i got the old one06:20
zblachuh oh06:20
_robinalso, if i do a dist-upgrade:06:20
_robinThe following packages have been kept back:06:20
zblachtry again. i had that problem once06:20
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_robinI get that for all packages06:20
zblach:S06:20
_robinhelp! :(06:20
zblachmaybe try a -f?06:20
_robinit refuses to06:20
_robin>_<06:20
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zblachyou may have borked it06:21
_robinborked?06:21
_robinhow?06:21
zblachdid you abort/fail in mid-upgrade?06:21
_robinNo06:21
_robini shut it down AFTER the upgrade06:21
_robinand that was on the same commandline06:21
_robinmaybe it failed though06:22
_robinalso, it uninstalled kubuntu-desktop06:22
_robinand when i try to install kubuntu-desktop06:23
_robinit says:06:23
_robinome packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have06:23
_robinrequested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable06:23
_robindistribution that some required packages have not yet been created06:23
_robinor been moved out of Incoming.06:23
_robinand some more06:23
zblachruh-roh06:23
_robini just installed kubuntu! wtf is wrong with this thing?06:23
zblachpack your things, you may need a fresh install06:23
_robinno!06:24
_robinyou don't mean that! :(06:24
_robini waited an hour for that06:24
zblachit's a fix-all process06:24
_robinand don't have much time left06:24
_robinwtf happened here?06:24
zblachapt-cache clear?06:24
zblachnvm06:25
zblachi don't kow06:25
cromoguys? anyone using subpixel rendering with dapper?06:27
cromocan you please confirm that gtk+ apps are not displaying fonts correctly? (i.e. without subpixel rendering)06:27
cromook I can see it already06:28
cromono, sorry, taht's something else06:28
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genehello06:32
geneQ re hp notebook w/turion 64 in it06:33
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geneI burnt the amd64 dvd of 5.10, and tried to boot but failed early06:33
geneits stuck at "ACPI: Subsystem Revision 2005072906:34
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geneHumm, with 50+ users logged in, no traffic?  Unbelieveable...06:36
_robin hey, since it is dead in #kubuntu, i'll ask it here. i tried to install KDE 3.5.2, and after that i still have the old KDE, and when i tried dist-upgrade, it said that all KDE packages were held back, and when i tried reinstalling kubuntu-desktop (yes, it was uninstalled), it said some message about a serious problem. so i just installed kubuntu, and now i have come across a bug? wtf is this shit?06:37
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beefsprocket_robin: , umm, this is #kubuntu?06:40
_robinyes but i posted that in ubuntu :p06:40
beefsprocketah06:40
beefsprocketwell, what's going on?06:40
_robinread the message06:40
_robinthen read http://pastebin.com/65980606:40
_robinthen you get why i am so frustrated06:40
beefsprocketok, try sudo apt-get -f install first06:42
beefsprocketsee if that clears anything out06:42
_robinobin@Foomatic:~$ sudo apt-get -f install06:43
_robinReading package lists... Done06:43
_robinBuilding dependency tree... Done06:43
_robin0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 68 not upgraded.06:43
_robingrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr06:43
Seantaterhave you done a apt-get update?06:43
geneBy golly, traffic06:43
_robinyes06:43
bhna_robin: apt-get dist-upgrade06:43
_robinbhna: read the pastebin entry06:43
beefsprocketok, next, kubuntu-desktop will not grab from the 3.5.2 repo06:43
geneanybody know anything about the 64 bit version here?06:43
beefsprocketso that's why it says they are held back06:43
beefsprocketgene: yes06:43
beefsprocketI use it06:43
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Seantatertry doing just upgarde instead of dist-upgarde06:44
_robinbut still, the about dialogs say i'm using the old KDE06:44
Otherlandhi there... is there a way to search available 'packages' in kubuntu/ubuntu ..like you can in gentoo ?06:44
_robinand i hate the old KDE06:44
geneI'm stuck at the disk in the drive stage, acpi freeze, no cli opts stop it06:44
_robinand i love the new KDE06:44
Seantaterotherland: apt-cache06:44
beefsprocketgene: I had that problem too06:44
Seantater_robin, can you paste-bin your sources.list06:45
geneon an hp pavilion, turiion amd6406:45
_robinsure06:45
beefsprocketgene: what I did was install a minimal hoary server, then upgrade to breezy and kubuntu-desktop06:45
OtherlandSeantater: thanks :-)06:45
genein i386 mode?06:45
beefsprocketno, in amd6406:45
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_robinhttp://pastebin.com/65982606:45
geneI don't understand why the pci=noacpi doesn't effect it06:46
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beefsprocketi nearly gave up with ubuntu because of that problem06:46
beefsprocket_robin: sources look fine06:46
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_robini just installed kubuntu and i haven't got much time06:47
Seantaterrobin: comment out the first line, concerning the cdrom06:47
genewell, I have other probs, mainly wth hp's attitude, so I guess I'll try an fc5 disk next06:47
beefsprocket_robin: sudo apt-get install kdebase06:47
Seantaterrobin: then fo the update/upgrand stuff06:47
beefsprocketsee what that outputs?06:47
Seantater_robin: comment out the first line, concerning the cdrom06:48
Otherlandok..I think I'm changing hair color..to blond... I thought I should write the following to search for midnight commander : sudo apt-cache search midnight06:48
Otherlandbut it just gives me this : konsole - X terminal emulator for KDE06:48
Seantaterotherland: are you typing this _into_ konsole?06:48
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Seantaterotherland: BTW: sudo is unnecessary06:49
_robinhe following packages have unmet dependencies:06:49
_robin  kdebase: Depends: kappfinder (>= 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu0breezy1) but 4:3.4.3-0ubuntu6 is to be installed06:49
_robin           Depends: kate (>= 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu0breezy1) but 4:3.4.3-0ubuntu6 is to be installed06:49
_robin           Depends: kcontrol (>= 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu0breezy1) but 4:3.4.3-0ubuntu6 is to be installed06:49
_robinand so on06:49
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OtherlandSeantater: yes I am....06:49
_robinGRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR i'm about to kill my computer06:49
_robinand #ubuntu for ignoring me completely >_>06:50
_robini spent half an hour there06:50
Seantater_robin: try enabling "universe"06:50
_robin... you know06:50
_robini can be fairly dumb06:50
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_robinforgetting to enable the universe06:50
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_robinGAH! >_<06:50
bhnaOtherland: you need universe06:50
Otherlandbhna: .. ah ok thanks...06:50
Seantater_robin Did, it work?06:51
bhnamc - midnight commander - a powerful file manager06:51
_robinit's updating now (packages repository)06:51
_robini hope it'll work06:51
SeantaterGood!06:51
bhnamc - midnight commander - a powerful file manager06:51
SeantaterIt ususally doeas06:51
Seantaterbhna: what about it?06:51
bhnaSeantater: sorry;-)06:52
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_robinYAY!06:53
_robinIT WORKS!06:53
_robin^_^06:53
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Otherlandbtw..iknow this isn't general linux/hardware channel..but... is PCI-express well supported under linux ?06:53
Seantater_robin: do you like KDE 3.5.2?06:53
SeantaterOtherland: I;d think06:54
OtherlandSeantater and bhna : thanks it works now (after apt-get update of cause) :-)06:54
SeantaterOtherland: I really don't know06:55
_robinSeantater: yes i do06:55
_robinSeantater: on arch i discovered it was much faster and less buggy than the previous kde so i fell in love with it06:55
_robinSeantater: made me switch to kubuntu xD06:55
Seantater_robin: My favorite feature is Konq's adblock06:55
_robinwhat about firefox?06:55
_robinor opera?06:56
Seantater_robin: I use firefox sparingly06:56
Seantater_robin: never used opera06:56
OtherlandSeantater: thanks anyways... :-)06:56
_robinlol makes me think of oprah06:56
_robindid you know in the netherlands there's a magazine named SPAM?06:56
Seantater_robin: Isn;t oprah the one with ads in the top-right06:56
Seantater_robin: not opran, opera06:57
Seantater_robin: now you got _me_ mixed up06:57
_robinetc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc06:57
Seantaterrobin: etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc, what about it?06:57
_robinhad to store that variable06:57
_robinsince it was gonna overwrite it06:58
_robin:p06:58
_robinbrb, booting into kde 3.5.206:58
ccc_Seantater: no ads, but it had them.06:58
Seantaterccc_: Thanks06:58
cromook guys, I foung that libcairo2 from xgl repository breaks subpixel rendering for kde apps06:59
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Seantaterrobin: Enjoying kde?07:00
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robinSeantater: Yeah, but kmail is missing07:00
Seantaterrobin: was it uninstalled?07:01
robini think so07:01
robinif i try to install it i get an older version of the lib07:01
robinlibmimesomething07:01
robin;O07:01
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Otherlandok..another question..is there a guide on how to compile your own kernel under ubuntu/kubuntu (.. I know how to compile a kernel in general)07:08
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Cinhttp://rtfs.ath.cx/pub/gtk-qt-firefox-thing.png -- Anyone else noticed this?07:11
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mustafuDoes anyone know of a small, lightweight solution for burning ISO images?  My windows installation is severely hosed, and I want to replace it with Kubuntu, but I must burn first ;)07:15
patrick_Cin: yes07:17
Cinpatrick_, any idea what causes it?07:18
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jpatrickCin: err, wait, what are you talking about?07:18
beefsprocketmustafu: can you use alcohol?07:19
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CinThe border on the left of the scrollbar stays where it is when you scroll.07:19
laszlokCin: are you talking about that line on the scroll bar?07:19
CinYah.07:19
CinIt only happens on Firefox as far as I know.07:19
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beefsprocketmustafu: also, try http://sourceforge.net/projects/bwgburn07:20
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laszlokCin: its a bug in the gtk-qt-engine thing07:20
mustafubeef: thanks07:21
Cinlaszlok, you know if it's being looked into by the devs.?07:21
beefsprocketenjoy07:21
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mustafuI get error 500 when trying that :/07:21
CinMmmm. Beef.07:21
mustafuheh07:21
laszlokCin: i saw an option once in the config of the gtk qt engine to fix that problem07:22
laszlokmaybe the new firefox messed it up07:22
ParkotronKate question: Does anyone know how to disable the grey hatching on wordwrapped lines as shown in this screenshot? http://kate.kde.org/images/kate_01.png07:23
CinOh reet.07:23
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laszlokParkotron: disable wrap07:25
mustafuI can't install most programs because the Windows Installer service is hosed :/07:25
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Cinmustafu, can you extract the ISO to a folder and use Windows CD burning to burn that to disc?07:28
CinOh.07:28
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jpatrickhe left07:29
Armagguedeshello07:29
Armagguedesanyone here on Dapper and Firefox 1.5.0.1?07:29
Parkotronlaszlok: I want the wrap, just not the big ugly markers. Thanks anyway, I guess it's just not an option.07:30
Armagguedesi'm trying to update to 1.5.0.2, but the "update firefox" in the ehlp menu is greyed ot07:30
Armagguedesout07:30
Armagguedesand sudo firefox on the console does nothing07:30
laszlokParkotron: no its not, its to let you know that you are not looking at a new line07:31
jpatrickCin: if he comes back, give him this: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Installation/FromWindows07:31
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jpatrickright, X restart now...07:32
CinWill do.07:32
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Armagguedesbtw does anyone here on dapper have a problem with the taskbar? i have it on "hide immediatly when cursor leaves it" and occasionally that thing disappears tottally07:35
Armagguedesi have to get into kcontrol, and change some setting and apply it07:36
Armagguedesin order to ressuscitate the taskbar07:36
Armagguedesideas?07:36
laszlokArmagguedes: i think you are supposed wait for firefox to update through apt, so it doesnt break stuff07:37
Armagguedeshm07:37
Armagguedesok07:37
Armagguedesill wait a few days then07:37
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Armagguedesi was not looking forward to uninstalling kubuntu's firefox and reinstall it on the side07:38
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Armagguedesanyone here using Thunderbird, iptables (firewall) and gmail?07:40
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davixwhat good games can I play in kubuntu besides enemy territory which is getting real old?07:46
Tm_Tdavix: freeciv07:46
Armagguedeswesnoth07:46
Tm_Tor wesnoth07:46
Tm_TArmagguedes: you little!07:46
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davixi've tried wesnoth, it's quite amusing, not for the long run though07:46
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MacAnthonyI think americas army works in linux too07:47
davixyeah, it got old as well :P07:47
davixeven the new version07:47
MacAnthonypicky07:47
MacAnthony:)07:47
davixi know, sorry.07:47
Tm_Tdefine old07:47
davixI don't know. i dont mind even buying games07:47
Tm_Twell07:48
davixjust as long as they are cool to play07:48
davixI heard something about quake 3 being released...07:48
Tm_Tdavix: then supertux!07:48
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Tm_Tit's fun ;)07:48
Otherlandis there a 'package' for the macromedia flash player, or should I download it mysql and install it ?07:49
MacAnthonymysql?07:49
MacAnthonywhat does mysql have to do with flash?07:49
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OtherlandMacAnthony: ups.. typo..I mean myself07:50
MacAnthonylol, ok07:50
MacAnthonymakes more sence07:50
yellowdartOtherland: flashplayer-mozilla07:51
Otherlandyellowdart: thanks :-)07:51
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yellowdartOtherland: remember that you can always 'apt-cache search packagename' if you're not sure if it's there :)07:53
Armagguedesquake 4 and dooom307:53
Tm_Tthere's always nethack or mud07:53
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davixis there a teamspeak client package or must I compile one myself?07:58
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MarineBoyis there any Screen Shots of Kubuntu out?08:00
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Otherlandyellowdart: I tried but it didn't show up..and infact I don't think it's there at all... btw I'm using dapper flight 608:02
beefsprocketMarineBoy: http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=608&slide=1&title=kubuntu+6.06+flight+6+screenshots08:03
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davixkubuntu is just wrong.08:24
davixwtf is up with it's sound management,08:24
davixIt can't handle full duplex and it can't manage two sources at once08:24
davixthis shit was solved in ubuntu ages ago08:24
crimsunum...08:25
crimsunyou do realise that ubuntu and kubuntu use the same infrastructure, don't you?08:26
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crimsungranted, the tools for managing multiple sound devices is a bit less intuitive in kubuntu, but the guts are identical08:26
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davixyes, they are both based on the same ifrastructure08:29
yellowdartOtherland: (sorry about the delay...was planting my lawn) ...you have to have universe repositories enabled08:29
davixbut the development of kubuntu in the desktop aspect is not by far as good08:29
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yellowdartOtherland: then apt-get update.. apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla08:30
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henoInstalling kubuntu-desktop applied a KDE theme to gnome. What's the easiest way to revert that?08:35
ohzieWhat's a good text editor? I need something with highlighting for html/php and preferably MySQL as well. =P08:35
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henoSeveral themes are affected, including Human.08:36
yellowdartohzie: quanta is good (apt-get install kdewebdev) ...it supports projects and stuff like that too08:37
yellowdartohzie: probably the closest thing to dreamweaver for kde08:37
ohzieThanks.08:38
Search4Lancer*sigh* I still can't get sound to work.... or maybe it's amaroK that isn't working, it flashes through a 5 second clip in a split second08:38
ohzieHave you tried dreamweaver with wine? That's my preferred option. :X08:38
crimsunSearch4Lancer: does ``aplay /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav'' work?08:39
yellowdartohzie: nah...i just use dreamweaver on my mac when i want to use it...i like quanta for hammering out code08:39
ohzieAhh.08:40
trappistohzie: I use vim.  great syntax hilighting.08:40
Armagguedesanyone here using Thunderbird, iptables (firewall) and gmail?08:40
ohzietrappist: =P Like the highlighting too much.08:40
Search4Lancercrimsun: nope.08:40
yellowdarttrappist: emacs is great for that too ;)08:40
trappistohzie: too much for what?08:40
trappistyellowdart: yeah emacs is a nice operating system, but I prefer linux08:41
crimsunSearch4Lancer: pastebin the following: ``cat /proc/asound/cards && amixer -c0''08:41
yellowdarttrappist: touche :)08:41
ohzietrappist: Too much to not be able to highlight and cut/paste things.08:41
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yellowdartohzie: you can cut/copy/paste in vim08:41
trappistohzie: vim has amazing hilight and cut&paste features08:42
yellowdartdont even need a mouse either08:42
ohzie=O08:42
ohzieI may have to try this.08:42
Search4Lancercrimun: okay, done that, now what? startup.wav still doesn't play08:42
crimsunSearch4Lancer: well, tell me the url08:42
trappistheh08:42
trappistohzie: if you must have a gui, try gvim08:43
yellowdartohzie: once you use hotkeys in emacs (or shortcuts in vim)...your mouse almost gets in the way :)08:43
crimsuntrappist: thomas and I will coordinate altering alsaconf; it'll probably reappear in the next a-u upload08:43
trappistcrimsun: WOOHOO!08:43
Search4Lancercrimsun: take your pick man, nothing works!   http://sounds.wavcentral.com/televis/southpark/birthday_song.mp3    <--- was just finding something for testing, mind you08:43
trappistcrimsun: I was considering a ruby rewrite08:43
ohzieYeah, I just got so used to dragging and dropping EVERYTHING in dreamweaver. :X08:43
ohzieI was trying nvu, but it adds things I don't need or want to my files.08:44
trappistSearch4Lancer: what crimsun told you to do will only produce output, not try to fix anything.  he wants to know what it said.08:44
crimsunSearch4Lancer: aplay only accepts wav08:44
ohzieFor instead, I write a php include file and it puts in all of my basic html meta/body tags for good measure./08:44
ohzieJust to piss me off.08:44
ohzielol08:44
yellowdarthehe08:44
trappistohzie: sounds like frontpage08:44
Search4Lancerwell it didn't say anything, and crimsun, I wasn't trying to play that with aplay, I was trying to play it with amaroK and Kaffiene08:45
Search4Lancerboth of them dart through the 5 seconds in a split second without doing a thing08:45
crimsunSearch4Lancer: I'm attempting to assist you in troubleshooting08:46
crimsunSearch4Lancer: are you saying that ``cat /proc/asound/cards && amixer -c0'' returned nothing?08:46
crimsunif so, that's a blatant lie. If it truly doesn't exist, it will tell you that.08:46
crimsun(excuse my emphasis)08:46
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Otherlandyellowdart: I'm also sorry for the delay... gf said it was dinner time...  :-)08:47
Search4LancerI am absolutely telling you that that command did not return anything.08:48
Search4Lancerand in the system notifications menu in kcontrol, where it lets you preview notification sounds, those work, apparently08:48
Otherlandyellowdart: I've enabled universe and updated, but still nothing... can it be that I'm using dapper ?08:48
yellowdarthmmm..maybe multiverse...it's been awhile08:49
crimsunSearch4Lancer: how is that even possible? If a file doesn't exist, it will return a "does not exist" error. If it does exist, it will return its contents. There are no other possibilities.08:49
yellowdarti doubt it's dapper though08:49
h3sp4wncrimson: any chance of getting envy24control included with alsa (without it using m-audio delta cards is almost impossible - everything is labelled in strange ways that are not at all easy to understand) the card should support hardware mixing directly (without using dmix)08:49
trappistcrimsun: I guess it could exist and be empty, but...08:50
Search4Lancercrimson, my bad, was hitting it from the run box instead of from the konsole08:50
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yellowdartOtherland: if that doesnt work...then wait a few weeks (june at the latest..when dapper is official) that's all i know08:50
Otherlandyellowdart: thismight sound stupid..but the only multivers i got is in the backports08:51
Otherlandyellowdart: ok thanks :-)08:51
Search4Lancerfrom this slew of information that it just spit out, what do you want to know?08:51
crimsuntrappist: even then amixer would have produced output ;)08:51
crimsunand /proc/asound/cards should only have an enumerated list or "no sound cards"08:51
yellowdartOtherland: you can enable multiverse in any repository just by putting 'multiverse' after the link in /etc/apt/sources.list08:52
crimsunSearch4Lancer: pastebin it, please, so that we can assist08:52
Search4Lanceralright, where do you want it? right here?08:52
Otherlandyellowdart: oohh..I dind't know that.. I'm not that used to kubunut/debian.. I'm more used to gentoo (but takes ages to setup and compile..for almost no speed boost)08:53
crimsun!pastebin08:53
ubotusomebody said pastebin was http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=126908:53
yellowdartOtherland: i used to use gentoo religiously...even have a few machines around here with it on still :)08:53
Search4Lancerhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1225608:54
crimsunh3sp4wn: please file a bug against the alsa-utils package in dapper08:54
yellowdartOtherland: debian is just quicker to setup...plus, if you still want the compile optimizations you can still do that too08:55
h3sp4wncrimson: ok08:55
Otherlandyellowdart: ..nice..can you point me to a guide on how to compile under kubuntu (and I'll promise I wont bug you for a while *g* )08:56
crimsunSearch4Lancer: tail -2 /proc/asound/oss/sndstat08:56
crimsunSearch4Lancer: I presume this is under Breezy?08:56
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Search4Lancerno, dapper (forgot about the other channel til now)08:57
yellowdartOtherland: no problem.. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ ...check out chapter 6 [working with source packages] 08:58
Search4Lancercrimsun:09:00
Search4LancerMixers:09:00
Search4Lancer0: Realtek ALC88009:00
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Otherlandyellowdart: thanks alot for all your help :-)09:00
Search4Lancervideos play, but with no sound as well09:00
yellowdartOtherland: no problem09:01
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gourdinanyone here with a core duo laptop ?09:02
crimsunSearch4Lancer: uname -r09:03
Search4Lancer2.6.15-19-38609:03
crimsunSearch4Lancer: please update && dist-upgrade09:04
crimsunif you can reproduce the issue under 20.30, then it's an issue09:04
crimsun(2.6.15-20-386, that is)09:04
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joriki cant get azureus to download torrents .. n its pretty slow too09:06
slow-motionhallo09:06
jorikcan anyone offer me some advice on possible replacements?09:06
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ubuntuHey what is amarok 1.4?09:09
jorikubuntu, only *the* best player in the world09:11
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me2winjorik: no, winamp is the best player in the world09:13
me2winamarok is a not so distant second though09:13
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disposablewhen i plug in a flashdisk, dmesg says it's recognised, but it does not get mounted and the icon does not appear on the desktop. what should i look for to resolve it? it's my girlfriend's laptop so naturally her answer is 'i didn't do anything, it just stopped working'09:26
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MrKubuntuUserdisposable:  Is this Dapper or Breezy?09:28
disposableMrKubuntuUser, 5.1009:28
disposableMrKubuntuUser, it has kde3.409:29
RogueJediXHey. Anyone know a good link for a Joystick setup howto? I'm having little luck setting up mine (Logitech Wingman. Not USB)09:29
MrKubuntuUserdisposable:  I don't have a solution for you, but I did have the same problem the other day with Dapper, KDE 3.5.209:29
disposableMrKubuntuUser, did you resolve it?09:29
MrKubuntuUserdisposable:  No, it was pretty maddening.  I ended up having to share my flash disk from a Win2K box and use it over Samba.  :-P09:30
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disposableMrKubuntuUser, that's quite funny, i'm running nfs just to do the same thing now :)09:30
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MrKubuntuUserdisposable:  I did get it to show up once on the desktop after unplugging/replugging several times, but when I clicked it I got an error because the drive wasn't mounted.09:32
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disposablei'll go and ask at #ubuntu. what's the codename for 5.10? (i'm not really a ubuntu user, just my girlfriend is.)09:33
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jpatrickdisposable: Breezy (Badger)09:35
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disposablethanx09:35
larkindoes kubuntu come with gcc installed?09:36
jpatricklarkin: no, by default09:36
larkinhow do I access gcc if it is intalled on my computer?09:37
larkinmy package manager states that g++ is installed. Can anybody tell me how I may access it?09:38
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Bambinohow can i check what version of libxrenderl i got?09:43
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mustard5Bambino, dpkg -I libxrenderl ?09:51
mustard5hmmm..maybe not09:51
Aikurnwhat is the command to restart arts daemon?09:52
mustard5Bambino, dpkg - libxrenderl09:53
mustard5Bambino, dpkg -p libxrenderl09:53
mustard5I think the -p option is the right one09:53
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Bambinomustard5, k thanks i will check09:54
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mustard5Aikurn, I could try to guess :)09:55
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davixis there a way to update breezy to dapper/09:55
davix?09:55
tristanmike!upgrade09:56
ubotuUpgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade.  Upgrading to dapper (remember it may break). Please test the dist-upgrader -> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html.09:56
Aikurnmustard5: thanks :)09:56
mustard5Aikurn, I'm wondering whether it works this way...   sudo /etc/init.d/artsd start  or something like that09:57
mustard5Aikurn, that would be my guess, but I really have no idea :)09:57
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Aikurnthat was my first guess too, but it doesn't exist09:57
mustard5Aikurn, hmmm09:57
Aikurni'm so silly, i've lost sound thanks to curiosity09:58
MrKubuntuUserAikurn:  Would disabling arts in System Settings, applying, and then re-enabling restart it?09:59
Aikurnno :(10:00
mustard5Aikurn, well I just ran artscontrol in terminal while in gnome and it certainly started something up :P10:00
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Aikurnok, i'll try it10:01
robinhow to clear a session? so you get a clean bootup next time? i don't like sessions10:01
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mustard5Aikurn, I don't know whether it was a good thing to do in gnome :)10:02
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Aikurnlol10:02
mustard5Aikurn, I got a million error messages10:02
Aikurnwow10:02
Aikurnit's starts something here, but still i got no sound10:02
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mustard5Aikurn, I've just been typing arts in terminal then hitting TAB key to see what autocomplete options it brings up10:03
Aikurnyeah, me too10:04
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davixis there a way I can MANUALLY upgrade to dapper? friggen update manager fails10:07
tristanmikedavix, you should report a bug on the update manager if you get time with what it's doing, or not doing, whatever the case10:08
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davixI will report the bug, but I will not wait for it to be handled in order to update though10:09
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tristanmikedavix, you could edit your sources.list file with the Dapper sources (http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666)  then "sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade"10:10
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davixthanks10:10
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vathekhello10:10
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angasule!audio10:11
ubotuangasule: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/10:11
angasule!microphone10:12
ubotuNot a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, angasule10:12
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robinis GNOME better than KDE?10:26
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disposablehow do i get kde3.5 into breezy?10:28
Tm_T!kde3.5.210:29
ubotukde3.5.2 is probably to upgrade to KDE3.5.2, Follow the instructions at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-352.php (add the deb...line to your sources.list). Then "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".10:29
Tm_Tgood night and peace ->10:29
disposableTm_T, tnx10:29
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patrixhey all10:32
patrixhaving trouble with KDM since a week or so10:32
patrixcan't login, the .xsession-errors says:10:32
patrixXsession: X session started for patrix at Fri Apr 14 16:27:55 EDT 200610:32
patrixNo profile for user 'patrix' found10:32
patrixwhat does that mean??10:33
patrixhmm I can login to "failsafe" but not gnome or kde10:33
patrix(gdm has no such problem)10:33
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munzirHi, I want to edit an avi file using kino but when I open the file I got this message: "The playlist is empty and the default preferences for video creation have not been specified - aborting. Failed to load media file.10:37
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SlimGis there a stepbystep tutorial for howto translate a kde app with kbabel?10:44
munzirSlimG: isn't kbabel documentation enough?10:44
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SlimGmunzir: i've tried, but i seem to be miss some vital information10:46
munzirSlimG: what's your problem?10:47
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SlimGmunzir: i've never translated with kbabel and svn, i've only translated at launchpad10:48
tsdgeosmunzir: i've used kbaebl if you need help using it10:48
munzirtsdgeos: I don't have any problem with it but SlimG has a problem. If he would tell us, then we may be able to help him10:52
munzirSlimG: you have to try it first and then ask10:52
SlimGmunzir: the problem is that i lack much information, can i paste the svn address into kbabel and it will do the rest for me and ill be ready to translate?10:53
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tsdgeosSlimG: what language? you want to translate kde?10:54
SlimGtsdgeos: norwegian bokmal (nb), let's say i would like to translate Konversation10:55
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tsdgeosSlimG: then contact the nb translation team10:57
tsdgeosand ask them10:57
tsdgeosof course you should also read10:57
tsdgeoshttp://l10n.kde.org/docs/translation-howto/10:57
tsdgeosand contact the team here10:58
tsdgeoshttp://l10n.kde.org/teams/infos.php?teamcode=nb10:58
SlimGtsdgeos: ok, but could you tell me if i have to both use the svn command in konsole, or if kbabel automaticaly does this for me as long as i setup the translation project properly?10:59
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tsdgeosiirc nicolas goute added some kind of svn support on kbabel from kde >= 3.5.1 or so11:00
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SlimGtsdgeos: thanks, that helps11:00
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munzirtsdgeos: I am using 3.5.2 but I can't find any svn options in kbabel11:03
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g-hennahi!11:03
tristanmikehello :)11:03
tsdgeosmunzir: iirc they are in catalogmanager11:04
g-hennaanyone here who can tell me where the konqueror menu settings->view profiles (or what ever it is called in english) are in kubuntu kde 3.5.2?11:04
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munzirtsdgeos: marvellous!11:07
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addisondrivemount11:08
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ninHerhi all11:18
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addisonwhat driver should i suse in flight 6 for an ATI card?11:21
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suyogcan anyone please tell me how to get mp3 previews in konqueror when i hover mouse over the file?11:33
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PaulThello11:40
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Allzhello11:43
Allzsomeone here?11:43
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PaulTi dont think there is anyone else here11:43
MacAnthonylotsa people11:43
PaulTyeah11:43
PaulTlol11:43
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PaulTi need some help11:43
Allzhello i need help11:43
Allzi have window xp -and i need douel boot11:44
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Allzif i start the cd -shude the kubuntu cd duel boot it selfe?11:44
MacAnthonyit's best to just ask your question as people tend to pay attension more to questions than general chit chat11:44
Allzhow do i duble boot11:45
tristanmike!dualboot11:45
ubotufor wintel https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo :for the Mac https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot11:45
Allzi have window xp -and i want kubuntu and window -Double boot11:45
tristanmikeAllz, do you have free space ?11:45
Allzi have c:11:45
Allzand it is 60 gb free space11:45
Allzi have only C:11:46
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Allzif i just run the kubuntu cd -can i double boot ?11:46
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tristanmikeAllz, you will need some kind of software like Partition Magic to shrink your current Hard Drive to give you "unallocated space"11:46
Allzkii S;11:47
tristanmikeAllz, I'm assuming an 80 gig drive with xp installed on the hard drive ?11:47
MacAnthonydo you know if ubuntu has gparted tristanmike?11:47
MacAnthonyon the cd11:47
Allzyes11:47
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PaulTi currently have windows xp and ubuntu installed on my machine in different partitions and i want to install kubuntu over the current ubuntu install, will i have to reinstall the grub loader, or will the loader from the old ubuntu install still work?11:48
tristanmikeMacAnthony, it should, but I'm not sure how it handles NTFS, so I would *personally* stick with something like partition magic11:48
kfarrellhello, I installed dapper Kubuntu by apt getting kubuntu-desktop. I seem to be missing progressive search from within KMenu, anyone know how I get that?11:48
PaulTpartition magic is the way to go11:48
tristanmikePaulT, do you mean install using a pure "kubuntu" cd/dvd ?11:48
tristanmikePaulT, rather than "apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" ?11:48
PaulTi just want a fresh install11:49
tristanmikePaulT, well, I'm assuming if your using a pure "kubuntu" cd/dvd, it will "reinstall" grub or lilo, as per norm, I don't forsee any complications....11:50
tristanmikePaulT, just make sure you do pick the Ubuntu partition and not the XP one ;-)11:51
PaulTyeah... i know... made that mistake once before11:51
kfarrelldoes anyone know what I'm talking about, I mean the search feature in kmenu, like I can type Syn in the search bar and it highlights where synaptic is?11:51
tristanmikePaulT, ohhh, tough mistake to make11:51
tristanmikekfarrell, Alt+Space11:52
PaulTit was on the laptop, so nothing too important lost11:52
tristanmikekfarrell, if you mean Katapult11:52
tristanmikePaulT, whew!11:52
PaulTwhere is the grub loader located on the drive, on the windows partition, or on the ubuntu partition or neither?11:53
tristanmikeneither, it's located on the MBR or Master Boot Record11:53
kfarrelltristanmike: hmm not sure if it's Katapult11:53
PaulTok, so when i install kubuntu, it will replace the old grub loader11:53
kfarrellit's a search bar in Kmenu11:53
tristanmikekfarrell, so you're saying "Alt+Space" isn't what you're looking for ?11:54
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tristanmikekfarrell, ahhh, I see11:54
PaulTtristan mike11:54
PaulTtristan mike11:54
PaulTsorry11:54
PaulTok, so when i install kubuntu, it will replace the old grub loader11:54
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tristanmikePaulT, It should11:55
kfarrellPaulT: from cd it will yes11:55
PaulTgood... i hope so... lol11:55
PaulTdont feel like installing 2 os's tonight11:55
tristanmikePaulT, I hear that11:55
PaulThey guys, thanks a lot for the help. have a good evening11:56
_cathalanyone know a way to delete every file in a directory ending with ~  I want to get rid of those extra file generated after saving a file.11:56
kfarrellrm -fr *~11:56
kfarrellactually rm -f *~ is enough11:57
munzirHi, any one here tried to import any file to kino and been able to import/edit it? can anyone try and confirm it's not a bug in kubuntu, please?11:57
_cathalcheers kfarrell - didnt think of the (obviously) , thx11:57
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_cathal*the/that11:58
kfarrell_cathal: lol, np11:58
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tristanmikekfarrell, are you thinking of Beagle ?11:58
tristanmikeor "Kat" ?11:59
kfarrelltristanmike: hehe, nope. I swear when you click on the blue K, it should list all the programs but there should also be a white text box you can type in11:59
AllzHow do i Buckup driver/boot C: ??12:00
Allzi have window xp12:00
tRSShey guys. I am using amarok on kubuntu. I just updated some amarok and its engines. now it keeps giving errors and won't let me more media into it.. any clue?12:00
kfarrellyou start typing and it highlights the programs12:00
tsdgeoskfarrell: that's not a KDE standard feature, iirc is suse that adds that patch12:00
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tRSS!amarok12:01
ubotuI heard amarok is a music player for Linux and Unix with an intuitive interface. See http://amarok.kde.org ; amaroK's features: http://amarok.kde.org/content/view/51/1/12:01
kfarrelltsdgeos: ahh, It may have been Suse I saw it in12:01
Allz#windows12:01
tristanmikekfarrell, have you used "katapult" ?12:01
kfarrellthat makes sense12:01
jindiazhey does anyone here use dc?12:01
tristanmikekfarrell, it sounds very similar to what you're looking for12:01
kfarrelltristanmike: I've just experimented with it in the last 3 minutes *8)12:01
tristanmikekfarrell, I <3 it12:01
tristanmikeI wish Gnome had it, it's a very innovative feature12:02
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kfarrelltristanmike: just alt space and type the app you want?12:02
tristanmikekfarrell, yeah, just start typing12:02
tristanmikeand when it gets to the one you want, just hit enter12:02
tristanmikeno need to finish typing12:02
kfarrelltristanmike: ahh nice12:03
jindiazok so if no one uses dc what do yu guys use to downlaod when both the bit torrent and gnutella networks suck12:03
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tristanmikekfarrell, it even handles the Gnome apps you may have installed as well12:03
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kfarrelltristanmike: and my music by the looks of it12:04
TheFuzzballhow do I sut up Remote Desktop access for KDE?12:04
tristanmikekfarrell, it's amazing, I think it's one of the most innovative things I've seen in a long time12:04

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