Yagisan | tseng: yep. seems like braindead makefiles. linpng is another that ignores CC | 12:11 |
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Yagisan | s/linpng/libpng | 12:11 |
tseng | yeah | 12:11 |
tseng | that will be a huge problem | 12:11 |
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Yagisan | tseng: well, at least I can patch that, butthis is taking a bit of the fun out of it. I should start mass filling bugs on apps that ignore CC, CFLAGS and kin | 12:15 |
tseng | you could | 12:16 |
tseng | but it would take a lifetime to actually get results | 12:16 |
tseng | this is why pappy- patched the specfiles | 12:16 |
tseng | to default ssp and pie | 12:17 |
Yagisan | tseng: so, I'd need to file bugs on apps that ignore CFLAGS to turn off SSP then ;) | 12:21 |
tseng | no | 12:21 |
tseng | we could turn it off | 12:21 |
Yagisan | tseng: ideally, I'd like to see the core libs protected, then as it is shown they work, progressively add other applications | 12:23 |
tseng | i need to find the eclass i wrote for ssp | 12:24 |
tseng | http://mirror.etf.bg.ac.yu/gentoorsync/eclass/flag-o-matic.eclass | 12:24 |
tseng | search for fstack | 12:25 |
Yagisan | tseng: I need to head out now, I'll investigate more of the makefiles from hell when I get back | 12:32 |
Yagisan | tseng: feel free to nitpick anything on my research page | 12:32 |
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bddebian | Heya gang | 01:10 |
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bddebian | Heya crimsun_ | 01:23 |
crimsun_ | 'lo bddebian | 01:25 |
bddebian | crimsun_: Got a minute by any chance? | 01:39 |
bddebian | Anyone have a minute to explain install ... vs. <pgk>.install vs dh_install? I should say when to use what? I am getting inconsistent results on a few packages? | 01:41 |
raphink | bddebian: did you see the problem with celestia ? | 01:47 |
raphink | you need to install this .desktop in celestia-common instead of celestia it seems | 01:47 |
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raphink | hi \sh | 01:50 |
\sh | hi...who was responsible for the ubuntu cloaks on freenode? | 01:51 |
raphink | \sh: it's seveas iirc | 01:51 |
\sh | ah ok | 01:51 |
Tonio_ | hey \sh ! | 01:52 |
bddebian | raphink: ? | 01:52 |
bddebian | Heya \sh | 01:52 |
raphink | bddebian: celestia won't install | 01:52 |
\sh | ok, just for your information...as I said earlier, I just removed myself from the core and motu development team on launchpad | 01:52 |
bddebian | :-( | 01:52 |
Tonio_ | :/ | 01:52 |
bddebian | raphink: It installed on my machine? | 01:53 |
\sh | I also removed myself from all the other teams except the ubuntu member team...so everything is fine.... | 01:53 |
raphink | bddebian: on mine, it says it can't replace /usr/share/applications/celestia-glut.desktop because it belongs to the celestia-common package already | 01:53 |
bddebian | Goddamn this desktop crap is starting to piss me off | 01:53 |
raphink | bddebian: :s | 01:54 |
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\sh | ok guys..have a good night, morning or whatever :) hope you are all fine and doing some rocking stuff for ubuntu/kubuntu/xubuntu/edubuntu | 01:57 |
bddebian | Later \sh, take care | 01:57 |
\sh | well..from now on I'm just a guest...coming sometimes around :) | 01:57 |
bddebian | Ahh, fuck it | 01:59 |
raphink | :( | 01:59 |
tritium | poor \sh. What's the matter? | 02:00 |
raphink | bddebian: about celestia, I think all you have to do is install this .desktop in celestia-common rather than celestia | 02:00 |
raphink | tritium: I'd like to understand | 02:00 |
bddebian | tritium: He has no money afaiui | 02:00 |
tritium | bddebian: that's no reason to give up membership | 02:00 |
Tonio_ | I must say it is a bit hard to understand.... | 02:00 |
bddebian | raphink: All I did was add celestia-glut.desktop to the celestia-glut package as far as I know | 02:01 |
Tonio_ | I hope he will does what he needs to be as ine as possible, but.... | 02:02 |
crimsun_ | bddebian: sorry, I'm at a LUG meeting hacking on ALSA | 02:02 |
raphink | ah? | 02:02 |
bddebian | crimsun_: No worries, I'm starting to think I'm helpless anyway :-( | 02:02 |
tritium | Well, my thoughts are with \sh... | 02:04 |
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jah_raztah | the Gnomebaker in ubuntu repositories are built with gstreamer0.8-mad for mp3 support in gnomebaker, the gstreamer0.8-mad has some problems and issues, thus is it possible for gnomebaker to use another library for mp3, preferably the gstreamer.10-ugly packages which is also used by rhythmbox and sepertine | 02:08 |
crimsun_ | bddebian: bah, hardlfy | 02:24 |
crimsun_ | hardly^ | 02:24 |
bddebian | ? | 02:24 |
crimsun_ | "helpless"? | 02:24 |
bddebian | Ah | 02:24 |
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ajmitch | oh dear | 02:28 |
ajmitch | who went overboard on launchpad css? | 02:28 |
raphink | huhu | 02:30 |
raphink | you don't like the aqua style ajmitch ? ;) | 02:30 |
ajmitch | raphink: no, and it breaks middle-click for new tab | 02:31 |
raphink | ah! | 02:31 |
jah_raztah | hello | 02:32 |
raphink | hi jah_raztah | 02:33 |
jah_raztah | raphink, is there any other alternatives to getting mp3 support in gnomebaker rather then using gstreamer0.8-mad | 02:33 |
raphink | jah_raztah: I'm not a GNOME user | 02:33 |
jah_raztah | ok | 02:34 |
jah_raztah | anyone else here that knows please feel free to answer | 02:34 |
raphink | jah_raztah: I'd say for such a question asking on #ubuntu might be a better idea | 02:35 |
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Unfrgiven | ajmitch: im not a fan of the new launchpad header either | 02:49 |
Unfrgiven | btw hi everyone :) | 02:50 |
ajmitch | hi | 02:50 |
Unfrgiven | ajmitch: how r u? | 02:50 |
ajmitch | good, how are you? | 02:52 |
Unfrgiven | good good. just wrapping up my madwifi-ng package :) | 02:54 |
Unfrgiven | its been quite an experience packaging kernel modules! | 02:54 |
Unfrgiven | ajmitch: got a question for you about module loading. if you modprobe blah and blah exists in multiple /lib/modules/<KVERS> directories, which one does it choose first? | 02:56 |
Unfrgiven | ajmitch: does it go based on alphabetical traversal of the directory? | 02:56 |
bddebian | Heya Unfrgiven | 02:57 |
Unfrgiven | bddebian: hey dude, how r u? | 02:57 |
bddebian | Stupid as ever thanks. You? :-) | 02:58 |
ajmitch | Unfrgiven: no, it only goes for the version matching the current kernel version | 02:58 |
Unfrgiven | ok let me explain the scenario | 02:58 |
Unfrgiven | linux-restricted-modules provides madwifi drivers. i've packaged madwifi-ng drivers. but i cant make my madwifi-ng package conflict with l-r-m because l-r-m also provides other things such as nvidia and ati drivers | 02:59 |
ajmitch | ok | 03:00 |
Unfrgiven | so for the moment my madwifi-ng installs modules to a different /lib directory than l-r-m | 03:00 |
Unfrgiven | so in essence there are two .ko files in the same /lib/modules/kernel-version/... | 03:00 |
Unfrgiven | now i want to make sure that if madwifi-ng and l-r-m is installed, by default madwifi-ng drivers will be picked up | 03:01 |
ajmitch | that'll be a bit harder, I think | 03:01 |
Unfrgiven | so im trying to find out how modprobe works | 03:01 |
ajmitch | and is not something I can answer | 03:01 |
Unfrgiven | ajmitch: ok no probs. you understand my problem though right? | 03:02 |
bddebian | Unfrgiven: So add nvidia and ati to your and do a Replaces :-) | 03:04 |
Unfrgiven | bddebian: well thats not a good longterm solution IMO | 03:04 |
Unfrgiven | i have a feeling (and I need to confirm this) that modprobe, traverse /lib/modules/KVERS alphabetically | 03:05 |
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Unfrgiven | so it should find /lib/modules/KVERS/blah/abc.ko before /lib/modules/KVERS/blah2/abc.ko | 03:05 |
bddebian | ah | 03:07 |
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Yagisan | Unfrgiven: just reading scrollback here, but could dpkg-divert let you replace the l-r-m module with yours ? | 06:55 |
Yagisan | tseng: while trying to get my shopping done, I thought of another possible way to get ssp going. I'll patch gcc-defaults to only use 4.1.x gcc as default, then patch build-essential to add libssp0-dev. All I then need to do is change CFLAGS and rebuild | 07:04 |
Yagisan | tseng: should avoid a fair bit of crap makefiles | 07:04 |
FunnyLookinHat | dist-upgrade seems to be forcing people to install braille interpretation drivers | 07:08 |
FunnyLookinHat | Strange bug or ubuntu dev's way of using subliminal messaging? I say the latter. | 07:08 |
crimsun | it's for a11y | 07:10 |
Unfrgiven | Yagisan: if i used dpkg-divert, how would i revert the old module back? | 07:19 |
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Lure | Can somebody explain me this build failure: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/659068 | 07:25 |
Lure | this is for kpowersave: https://launchpad.net/+builds/+build/185614 | 07:25 |
Lure | package builds fine in pbuilder, but fails due to Rosetta on buildd | 07:26 |
Yagisan | Unfrgiven: undo the divert in post-rm. It's been a while since I used it, but I think it would do exactly what you want | 07:34 |
Yagisan | Unfrgiven: IIRC pentium-builder is a working example of how to use dpkg-divert | 07:35 |
chillywilly | howdy | 07:36 |
Yagisan | G'day chillywilly | 07:36 |
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lucas | hi | 08:28 |
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Unfrgiven | Yagisan: thanks for that, ill look into it! | 08:45 |
Unfrgiven | Seveas: just to let you know, lilo did setup my cloak. thanks for your help | 08:46 |
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ivoks | 'morning | 08:47 |
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cbx33 | ok guys, anyone around? | 09:45 |
cbx33 | the kill binary..... | 09:46 |
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freeflying | cbx33: hi | 09:48 |
cbx33 | hey freeflying | 09:48 |
cbx33 | i've uninstalled procps | 09:49 |
cbx33 | which provides the kill binary | 09:49 |
cbx33 | but on running the kill command i still get a usage summary | 09:49 |
cbx33 | y? | 09:49 |
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freeflying | cbx33: purge it , and try | 09:51 |
cbx33 | ok | 09:51 |
cbx33 | nope still there | 09:51 |
cbx33 | is it provided with bash | 09:52 |
cbx33 | yup it is | 09:52 |
cbx33 | ok is this a bug | 09:52 |
cbx33 | after i've installed the procps package I would expect the kill command to use the new kill binary | 09:52 |
cbx33 | but it doesn't it still uses the built in command | 09:53 |
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pygi | slomo: around? | 09:57 |
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slomo__ | pygi: yes | 10:31 |
pygi | slomo__: thanks for package :) | 10:32 |
pygi | now UVFe? :) | 10:32 |
slomo__ | pygi: np :) UVFe? what do you mean? it's already in dapper with a bunch of fixes :) | 10:32 |
pygi | slomo__: damn, then I haven't updated :-P sorry :) | 10:33 |
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phanatic | hi people | 10:34 |
ivoks | we should sync sylpheed-claws-gtk2 from debian | 10:35 |
ivoks | the one in dapper is broken | 10:35 |
ivoks | and UVF was granted 2 months ago :/ | 10:35 |
pygi | ivoks: uh,huh :-/ | 10:36 |
slomo__ | pygi: ok :) tell me if something else is broken ;) | 10:36 |
slomo__ | ivoks: so just sync it or ask for another UVF exception for the current version ;) | 10:36 |
ivoks | version didn't change | 10:36 |
ivoks | uhm... shouldn't elmo sync from debian? | 10:37 |
ivoks | (/me wasn't here last couple of months :) | 10:37 |
slomo__ | ivoks: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources#syncs | 10:37 |
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ivoks | ok | 10:38 |
ivoks | slomo__: thanks | 10:38 |
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cyberserver | Hi people. flashplugin-nonfree gone from the multiverse repository? | 10:48 |
cyberserver | My apt-cache is not listing it | 10:48 |
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cyberserver | Forget-it.. multiverse was not enabled in my sources.list | 10:51 |
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cyberserver | I think flashplugin-nonfree is not being able to fetch macromedia's flash | 11:04 |
cyberserver | This is a repackaged ubuntu installer... maybe we can have sucess using debain standart one? | 11:05 |
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slomo__ | Natja: ping? | 11:14 |
cyberserver | ok, debian package has the same problem | 11:16 |
cyberserver | are these contrib packages taken care by someone of ubuntu (out of motu) that we should contact? | 11:16 |
Natja | slomo__: pong | 11:18 |
cyberserver | ?!? Macromedia does not have the package available at all... | 11:19 |
slomo__ | Natja: just wanted to tell you that motu-uvf is not responsible for syncs that import a new upstream version but were approved already and syncs that only import a new debian revision :) | 11:19 |
ivoks | slomo__: lol | 11:20 |
ivoks | nice comment on bug 39536 | 11:20 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 39536 in sylpheed-claws-gtk2 "UVF exception: Sync request from sid" [Normal,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/39536 | 11:20 |
Natja | slomo__: ok, sorry | 11:20 |
slomo__ | Natja: np... nobody was killed ;) but thanks for looking at all the new bugs and assigning them somewhere when needed :) | 11:22 |
Natja | ;) | 11:24 |
ivoks | gnje... i still have one bug open on one of my uploads :/ | 11:24 |
ivoks | but i think i will reject it | 11:24 |
ivoks | in a month or two | 11:24 |
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phanatic | hi raphink | 12:07 |
raphink | hi phanatic | 12:08 |
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tseng | Yagisan: you can set global CFLAGS on sbuild somehow | 12:29 |
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tseng | Yagisan: ah you can just do an export right in pbuilderrc | 12:38 |
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Toadstool | heya MOTUs | 12:52 |
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ivoks | do we have security team for universe? :) | 12:53 |
tseng | we did | 12:54 |
ivoks | :) | 12:54 |
tseng | i dont think anyone is actively working on it atm | 12:54 |
ivoks | ok, how can we upload security fixes to breezy? | 12:54 |
ivoks | we should | 12:54 |
tseng | you make a release XubuntuY.1 | 12:55 |
tseng | with the changelog [SECURITY] | 12:55 |
tseng | mention all CVE's that apply | 12:55 |
tseng | and send the source package to pitti | 12:55 |
ivoks | source.changes :) | 12:55 |
ivoks | ok | 12:55 |
slomo__ | is someone on amd64 here and could test to build something for me? (it will take maybe some hours and a lot of ram) | 12:57 |
ivoks | sorry, no | 12:58 |
ivoks | (meaning i have no amd :) | 12:58 |
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Toadstool | slomo__: yep | 01:00 |
slomo__ | Toadstool: ok cool :) latest ikvm from debian/unstable | 01:00 |
Toadstool | ok, let's go :) | 01:01 |
slomo__ | our current version doesn't build on amd64... and the debian version builds on amd64 for some reason | 01:01 |
Toadstool | 0.26.0.1-1 ? | 01:01 |
slomo__ | yes | 01:01 |
Toadstool | ok slomo__, building | 01:03 |
slomo__ | doko: what should be used for compiling java stuff? ecj(-bootstrap) or something else? | 01:03 |
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slomo__ | Toadstool: is it compiling? | 01:16 |
Toadstool | yep, still compiling | 01:16 |
slomo__ | at least something :) | 01:16 |
slomo__ | the previous version failed instantly | 01:16 |
Toadstool | I've got a few BUILD SUCCEEDED so I'm confident :) | 01:17 |
Toadstool | gij-4.1 is eating a huge amount of cpu and ram ^^ | 01:18 |
slomo__ | yes... unfortunately... if this fails later we could try compiling with gcj instead of ecj... maybe it works better | 01:19 |
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Toadstool | slomo__: wow, it takes a *huge* amount of time to compile the classpath jars ^^ | 01:45 |
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slomo__ | Toadstool: i know :) is it finished? | 02:16 |
Toadstool | nope | 02:16 |
slomo__ | uh... mine was faster :) | 02:16 |
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Toadstool | slomo__: well, it's freezing on "exec /usr/bin/ecj-bootstrap -g -1.5 -nowarn -cp mscorlib.jar:System.jar @allsources.lst"... | 02:17 |
Toadstool | but gij is still running | 02:18 |
slomo__ | Toadstool: yeah that is the part that takes ages ;) does it still use your cpu for something? | 02:18 |
Toadstool | yep, gij is eating 99% of my cpu :) | 02:18 |
slomo__ | ok... so probably the gij JIT for x86 is much better than the amd64 one | 02:19 |
Toadstool | yeah probably | 02:19 |
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phanatic | hi people | 02:30 |
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Toadstool | slomo__: still building... | 02:45 |
slomo__ | :/ | 02:46 |
Toadstool | i've never seen a package that long to build on my amd64 box :) | 02:49 |
slomo__ | try openoffice :) | 02:49 |
Toadstool | haha | 02:50 |
Hobbsee | slomo__: ugh, yeah. or koffice... | 02:50 |
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bddebian | Heya gang | 03:36 |
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Toadstool | slomo__: still building ikvm and gij-4.1 is still eating a lot of CPU... | 03:59 |
slomo__ | Toadstool: :( | 04:00 |
trappist | bugs filed against hoary that are fixed, but not necessarily in hoary - should I close em? | 04:15 |
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Amaranth | trappist: yes (late) | 04:58 |
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trappist | Amaranth: thanks | 04:59 |
trappist | forgot what bug I was looking at, but that'll be helpful in the future :) | 05:00 |
trappist | Amaranth: ditto for breezy? | 05:00 |
Amaranth | yep | 05:00 |
Amaranth | if it's fixed in dapper close it | 05:00 |
trappist | cool | 05:00 |
trappist | that's a lot of bugs | 05:00 |
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Toadstool | slomo__: I hate gij, that's so slow :) | 05:00 |
siretart | hey folks! | 05:01 |
Toadstool | hi siretart | 05:01 |
bddebian | huhu siretart | 05:02 |
siretart | heyho Toadstool, hi bddebian | 05:03 |
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slomo__ | Toadstool: still compiling? :) | 05:19 |
Toadstool | yes | 05:19 |
slomo__ | omg | 05:19 |
Toadstool | :) | 05:19 |
slomo__ | maybe gij has no JIT at all for amd64 but only an interpreter ;) | 05:20 |
Toadstool | :D | 05:20 |
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sivang | has anyone seen dholbach ? | 06:08 |
bddebian | I think he said he was out until after Easter but don't quote me on that :-) | 06:08 |
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sivang | bddebian: I see, I guess that goes for everyone or so | 06:10 |
sivang | everywhere the ubuntu universe things look too quite for a friday afternoon :) | 06:10 |
bddebian | Except you, me, Toadstool, and slomo__ aparently :-) | 06:10 |
Toadstool | :) | 06:10 |
sivang | yes, apparently :) | 06:10 |
slomo__ | Toadstool: still compiling? =) | 06:11 |
Toadstool | yes :) | 06:11 |
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bddebian | Hello jaldhar | 06:12 |
Toadstool | slomo__: I think i'm going to beat the world longest compile time record :) | 06:12 |
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kelmo | hi siretart | 06:18 |
bddebian | Toadstool: Nothing beats build glibc on GNU/Hurd, trust me! ;-) | 06:19 |
Toadstool | heh | 06:19 |
crimsun | it's compilable? /me ducks | 06:19 |
Toadstool | :D | 06:19 |
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bddebian | crimsun: touche' :-) | 06:24 |
bddebian | Heya tritium | 06:24 |
tritium | Hi there bddebian :) | 06:24 |
siretart | hey kelmo | 06:29 |
ivoks | :(((((((( | 06:30 |
Mithrandir | bddebian: that takes more than a week on top-notch hardware? | 06:30 |
ivoks | man... i'm so angry and sad | 06:30 |
tritium | ivoks: about what? | 06:31 |
kelmo | siretart: did you have your break yet? | 06:31 |
ivoks | tritium: about newest IT news in croatia | 06:31 |
siretart | kelmo: I just returned home :) | 06:31 |
bddebian | Mithrandir: Nah, my longest is only about 2 days so far :-) | 06:31 |
tritium | ivoks: I've not heard. What happened? | 06:31 |
LaserJock | hi bddebian and tritium | 06:31 |
bddebian | Heya LaserJock | 06:31 |
tritium | Hi LaserJock | 06:31 |
ivoks | tritium: company that has 60% of Internet in croatia buyed other company (wich has 30%) | 06:31 |
Mithrandir | bddebian: try axiom on m68k some day. :-P | 06:31 |
tritium | Oh... | 06:31 |
ivoks | so.. now we have one ISP | 06:32 |
siretart | kelmo: fortunately, there was a nice neighbor of the hotel, who offered a unsecured wireless ap, which I used for a ssh or to to read & answer some emails :) | 06:32 |
ivoks | and that's the worst one | 06:32 |
tritium | ivoks: :( | 06:32 |
kelmo | siretart: i noticed ; ) | 06:32 |
siretart | :) | 06:32 |
kelmo | siretart: trust the trip was a good one then | 06:32 |
siretart | hi ivoks! | 06:32 |
siretart | ivoks: nice to see you back. and in action :) | 06:32 |
ivoks | siretart: hi yeah... | 06:32 |
ivoks | siretart: things can changes since prices will go up now :) | 06:33 |
siretart | the trip to vienna was nice. very nice city, charming people, we had a great time :) | 06:33 |
bddebian | OK damnit, why can't scilab find Xaw3d and Xmu? | 06:35 |
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ivoks | bddebian: it looks for them in /usr/X11R6? | 06:37 |
bddebian | ivoks: I changed configure.in and did an autoreconf so it shouldn't ?? | 06:38 |
azeem | check the config.log | 06:38 |
bddebian | azeem: Bah, that's like work :-) | 06:45 |
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v3rmap | I'm trying to install gtk2 dev libs on Dapper flight 6, but hit some errors:http://pastebin.com/659830 | 07:20 |
v3rmap | Any suggestions on what to try to fix the problems? | 07:20 |
azeem | v3rmap: you're trying to install breezy's libgtk2.0-dev | 07:21 |
v3rmap | azeem, I need the dapper version of the lib. I had breezy and I upgraded. Is there something else I should try? | 07:23 |
azeem | maybe apt-cache policy libgtk2.0-dev | 07:23 |
azeem | see whether that gives you some hints | 07:24 |
azeem | or try apt-get install libgtk2.0-dev=2.8.16-1ubuntu1 or something | 07:24 |
azeem | I'm off, bye | 07:24 |
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v3rmap | bye, thanks. | 07:24 |
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Toadstool | slomo__: still building... :/ | 07:48 |
slomo__ | Toadstool: unbelievable... would be interesting to know whether this finishes at all or just sits in a endless loop | 07:50 |
Toadstool | yep... but no output at all and I can't see a way to diagnose what's going on... | 07:51 |
slomo__ | me neither... but that's normal | 07:51 |
Toadstool | i think i'm going to kill the gij process and see what I can do to get a more verbose output | 07:53 |
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Toadstool | slomo__: http://pastebin.com/659958 <-- end of the buildlog | 07:56 |
slomo__ | after you killed it? | 07:57 |
Toadstool | yep | 07:57 |
slomo__ | ok... everything normal ;) | 07:57 |
Toadstool | 24592.9 seconds <- nice ^^ | 07:57 |
slomo__ | that's not normal :P | 07:57 |
Toadstool | heh | 07:58 |
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Toadstool | slomo__: trying to build with verbose output | 08:08 |
slomo | Toadstool: thanks :) | 08:09 |
Toadstool | np, I have cpu cycles to share ;) | 08:09 |
slomo | Toadstool: you could also try to run it for the next week ;) | 08:11 |
Toadstool | heh | 08:11 |
siretart | slomo: hey sebastian! | 08:17 |
slomo | siretart: hi :) | 08:17 |
Toadstool | slomo: according to the verbose output, it's really building something but really really slowly :D | 08:18 |
slomo | Toadstool: so my guess was probably right... only interpreted on amd64 :/ | 08:20 |
Toadstool | yep :/ | 08:20 |
slomo | want to write a decent JIT? ;) | 08:22 |
Toadstool | huhu :) | 08:22 |
Toadstool | I definitely ban Java and .NET/Mono from my known languages :p | 08:24 |
slomo | why? ;) | 08:27 |
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trappist | somebody spelled definitely right. that always makes my day. | 08:32 |
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crimsun | I can definately misspell wurds. | 08:35 |
trappist | I notised | 08:37 |
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LaserJock | trappist: haha, are you going to start checking all the changelogs for spelling/grammar? | 08:57 |
trappist | I'll leave the changelogs alone. but I've started my campaign to fix config file comments, man pages, error messages, etc. | 08:57 |
Toadstool | that's a huge campaign :) | 08:58 |
trappist | yeah | 08:58 |
trappist | a lot of developers have a first language other than english, and a lot of others just don't care, but I think the spelling and grammar problems make for a nasty smear on the polish | 08:59 |
Toadstool | agreed | 09:00 |
crimsun | trappist: just be aware of regional differences | 09:07 |
crimsun | for instance, American English tends to use "different from" rather than "different to" | 09:08 |
trappist | crimsun: sure - I don't try to "correct" colour to color, etc. | 09:08 |
trappist | crimsun: that stuff too. all my favorite authors are british, so I can spot those. | 09:08 |
trappist | I mostly go after my personal pet peeves, like its/it's, their/they're/there, your/you're, etc. | 09:09 |
trappist | and of course defin[^(ite)] ly | 09:10 |
Toadstool | :D | 09:11 |
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bddebian | slomo: What is Sivangs package on REVU?? | 09:54 |
slomo | bddebian: it's not on revu | 09:55 |
slomo | look at the mail | 09:55 |
bddebian | Oh, heh | 09:55 |
bddebian | Hmm, doesn't build for me :-) | 10:00 |
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zul | help | 11:11 |
zul | oops...heylo | 11:11 |
zul | hmmm....my uploads to universe seems to be dropping for some reason.. | 11:14 |
Yagisan | morning all | 11:18 |
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Yagisan | tseng: I've actually scripted up pbuilders on tmpfs here, so I'm more likely to take either the pbuilderrc option, or script up a package like pentium-builder | 11:19 |
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bddebian | Heya Yagisan | 11:25 |
Yagisan | morning/evening bddebian | 11:27 |
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Yagisan | bddebian: enjoying your break ? | 11:27 |
bddebian | No, not feeling well and trying to fix bugs I can't fix :-( You? | 11:28 |
Yagisan | bddebian: just woke up today (OMG I woke up at 7am, not 2pm, the world is ending!), and thoroughly cursing the fact that most shops have shut over the easter break. | 11:30 |
Yagisan | bddebian: what's wrong ? eat something you shouldn't have ? | 11:32 |
bddebian | Nah, getting a cold I think :-( | 11:36 |
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ivoks | ok, this day will be remebered by cups hell :) | 11:59 |
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mitsuhiko | someone pinged me today? | 12:01 |
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