[12:11] tseng: yep. seems like braindead makefiles. linpng is another that ignores CC [12:11] s/linpng/libpng [12:11] yeah [12:11] that will be a huge problem === Sergi0 [n=serge@ip227-28-166-62.adsl.versatel.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:15] tseng: well, at least I can patch that, butthis is taking a bit of the fun out of it. I should start mass filling bugs on apps that ignore CC, CFLAGS and kin [12:16] you could [12:16] but it would take a lifetime to actually get results [12:16] this is why pappy- patched the specfiles [12:17] to default ssp and pie [12:21] tseng: so, I'd need to file bugs on apps that ignore CFLAGS to turn off SSP then ;) [12:21] no [12:21] we could turn it off [12:23] tseng: ideally, I'd like to see the core libs protected, then as it is shown they work, progressively add other applications [12:24] i need to find the eclass i wrote for ssp [12:24] http://mirror.etf.bg.ac.yu/gentoorsync/eclass/flag-o-matic.eclass [12:25] search for fstack [12:32] tseng: I need to head out now, I'll investigate more of the makefiles from hell when I get back [12:32] tseng: feel free to nitpick anything on my research page === bpuccio [n=brian@ool-457a9c38.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Sergi0 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[01:39] crimsun_: Got a minute by any chance? [01:41] Anyone have a minute to explain install ... vs. .install vs dh_install? I should say when to use what? I am getting inconsistent results on a few packages? [01:47] bddebian: did you see the problem with celestia ? [01:47] you need to install this .desktop in celestia-common instead of celestia it seems === \sh [n=shermann@ubuntu/member/backslash-sh] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:50] hi \sh [01:51] <\sh> hi...who was responsible for the ubuntu cloaks on freenode? [01:51] \sh: it's seveas iirc [01:51] <\sh> ah ok [01:52] hey \sh ! [01:52] raphink: ? [01:52] Heya \sh [01:52] bddebian: celestia won't install [01:52] <\sh> ok, just for your information...as I said earlier, I just removed myself from the core and motu development team on launchpad [01:52] :-( [01:52] :/ [01:53] raphink: It installed on my machine? [01:53] <\sh> I also removed myself from all the other teams except the ubuntu member team...so everything is fine.... [01:53] bddebian: on mine, it says it can't replace /usr/share/applications/celestia-glut.desktop because it belongs to the celestia-common package already [01:53] Goddamn this desktop crap is starting to piss me off [01:54] bddebian: :s === jinty [n=jinty@144.Red-83-55-196.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:57] <\sh> ok guys..have a good night, morning or whatever :) hope you are all fine and doing some rocking stuff for ubuntu/kubuntu/xubuntu/edubuntu [01:57] Later \sh, take care [01:57] <\sh> well..from now on I'm just a guest...coming sometimes around :) [01:59] Ahh, fuck it [01:59] :( [02:00] poor \sh. What's the matter? [02:00] bddebian: about celestia, I think all you have to do is install this .desktop in celestia-common rather than celestia [02:00] tritium: I'd like to understand [02:00] tritium: He has no money afaiui [02:00] bddebian: that's no reason to give up membership [02:00] I must say it is a bit hard to understand.... [02:01] raphink: All I did was add celestia-glut.desktop to the celestia-glut package as far as I know [02:02] I hope he will does what he needs to be as ine as possible, but.... [02:02] bddebian: sorry, I'm at a LUG meeting hacking on ALSA [02:02] ah? [02:02] crimsun_: No worries, I'm starting to think I'm helpless anyway :-( [02:04] Well, my thoughts are with \sh... === jah_raztah [n=jahrazta@CPE0006255ab096-CM0011e6bec6bf.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:08] the Gnomebaker in ubuntu repositories are built with gstreamer0.8-mad for mp3 support in gnomebaker, the gstreamer0.8-mad has some problems and issues, thus is it possible for gnomebaker to use another library for mp3, preferably the gstreamer.10-ugly packages which is also used by rhythmbox and sepertine [02:24] bddebian: bah, hardlfy [02:24] hardly^ [02:24] ? [02:24] "helpless"? [02:24] Ah === nielsendres [n=niels@220-253-54-47.VIC.netspace.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:28] oh dear [02:28] who went overboard on launchpad css? [02:30] huhu [02:30] you don't like the aqua style ajmitch ? ;) [02:31] raphink: no, and it breaks middle-click for new tab [02:31] ah! [02:32] hello [02:33] hi jah_raztah [02:33] raphink, is there any other alternatives to getting mp3 support in gnomebaker rather then using gstreamer0.8-mad [02:33] jah_raztah: I'm not a GNOME user [02:34] ok [02:34] anyone else here that knows please feel free to answer [02:35] jah_raztah: I'd say for such a question asking on #ubuntu might be a better idea === irvin [n=vx@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nielsendres [n=niels@220-253-54-47.VIC.netspace.net.au] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Ex-Chat"] === jah_raztah [n=jahrazta@CPE0006255ab096-CM0011e6bec6bf.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] [02:49] ajmitch: im not a fan of the new launchpad header either [02:50] btw hi everyone :) [02:50] hi [02:50] ajmitch: how r u? [02:52] good, how are you? [02:54] good good. just wrapping up my madwifi-ng package :) [02:54] its been quite an experience packaging kernel modules! [02:56] ajmitch: got a question for you about module loading. if you modprobe blah and blah exists in multiple /lib/modules/ directories, which one does it choose first? [02:56] ajmitch: does it go based on alphabetical traversal of the directory? [02:57] Heya Unfrgiven [02:57] bddebian: hey dude, how r u? [02:58] Stupid as ever thanks. You? :-) [02:58] Unfrgiven: no, it only goes for the version matching the current kernel version [02:58] ok let me explain the scenario [02:59] linux-restricted-modules provides madwifi drivers. i've packaged madwifi-ng drivers. but i cant make my madwifi-ng package conflict with l-r-m because l-r-m also provides other things such as nvidia and ati drivers [03:00] ok [03:00] so for the moment my madwifi-ng installs modules to a different /lib directory than l-r-m [03:00] so in essence there are two .ko files in the same /lib/modules/kernel-version/... [03:01] now i want to make sure that if madwifi-ng and l-r-m is installed, by default madwifi-ng drivers will be picked up [03:01] that'll be a bit harder, I think [03:01] so im trying to find out how modprobe works [03:01] and is not something I can answer [03:02] ajmitch: ok no probs. you understand my problem though right? [03:04] Unfrgiven: So add nvidia and ati to your and do a Replaces :-) [03:04] bddebian: well thats not a good longterm solution IMO [03:05] i have a feeling (and I need to confirm this) that modprobe, traverse /lib/modules/KVERS alphabetically === slomo__ [n=slomo@p5486D535.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:05] so it should find /lib/modules/KVERS/blah/abc.ko before /lib/modules/KVERS/blah2/abc.ko [03:07] ah === FunnyLookinHat [n=FunnyLoo@71.57.11.218] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-motu === poningru_ [n=poningru@pool-71-243-246-88.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === poningru_ [n=poningru@n128-227-50-237.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zenrox [n=zenrox@71.115.198.118] has joined #ubuntu-motu === caravena [n=caravena@200.72.191.94] has joined #ubuntu-motu === imbrandon [n=imbrando@CPE-72-135-8-5.kc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.36] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dewd_ [n=dewd@201.29.127.220] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dudus [n=dudus@200.245.31.150] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dudus [n=dudus@200.245.31.150] has joined #ubuntu-motu === imbrandon [n=brandon@CPE-72-135-8-5.kc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jinty [n=jinty@144.Red-83-55-196.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu === FunnyLookinHat [n=FunnyLoo@71.57.11.218] has joined #ubuntu-motu === No1Viking [n=Viking@h-83-140-104-3.ip.cust.port80.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:55] Unfrgiven: just reading scrollback here, but could dpkg-divert let you replace the l-r-m module with yours ? [07:04] tseng: while trying to get my shopping done, I thought of another possible way to get ssp going. I'll patch gcc-defaults to only use 4.1.x gcc as default, then patch build-essential to add libssp0-dev. All I then need to do is change CFLAGS and rebuild [07:04] tseng: should avoid a fair bit of crap makefiles [07:08] dist-upgrade seems to be forcing people to install braille interpretation drivers [07:08] Strange bug or ubuntu dev's way of using subliminal messaging? I say the latter. [07:10] it's for a11y [07:19] Yagisan: if i used dpkg-divert, how would i revert the old module back? === Lure [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:25] Can somebody explain me this build failure: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/659068 [07:25] this is for kpowersave: https://launchpad.net/+builds/+build/185614 [07:26] package builds fine in pbuilder, but fails due to Rosetta on buildd [07:34] Unfrgiven: undo the divert in post-rm. It's been a while since I used it, but I think it would do exactly what you want [07:35] Unfrgiven: IIRC pentium-builder is a working example of how to use dpkg-divert [07:36] howdy [07:36] G'day chillywilly === zerokarmaleft [n=zerokarm@ip68-12-45-133.ok.ok.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === carthik [n=carthik@pdpc/supporter/student/carthik] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lucas [n=lucas@ubuntu/member/lucas] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:28] hi === Lure [n=lure@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:45] Yagisan: thanks for that, ill look into it! [08:46] Seveas: just to let you know, lilo did setup my cloak. thanks for your help === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:47] 'morning === jinty [n=jinty@94.Red-83-58-173.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tritium [n=tritium@ubuntu/member/tritium] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure_ [n=lure@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu === luka74 [n=lure@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvoltage [n=Jono@mtngprs7.mtn.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TMM [n=hp@ip5650d1ab.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cbx33 [n=pete@84-45-238-195.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === irvin [n=vx@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu === MagnusR [n=magru@c83-250-59-127.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:45] ok guys, anyone around? [09:46] the kill binary..... === janm [n=jmalonzo@ppp4592.dsl.pacific.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === doko__ [n=doko@dslb-088-073-094-022.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:48] cbx33: hi [09:48] hey freeflying [09:49] i've uninstalled procps [09:49] which provides the kill binary [09:49] but on running the kill command i still get a usage summary [09:49] y? === Natja [n=Natja@122-219.240.81.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:51] cbx33: purge it , and try [09:51] ok [09:51] nope still there [09:52] is it provided with bash [09:52] yup it is [09:52] ok is this a bug [09:52] after i've installed the procps package I would expect the kill command to use the new kill binary [09:53] but it doesn't it still uses the built in command === pygi [n=pygi@83.131.246.184] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:57] slomo: around? === Unfrgive1 [n=ankur@202.76.176.94] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Unfrgiven [n=ankur@ubuntu/member/unfrgiven] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jpatrick [n=patrick@ubuntu/member/jpatrick] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:31] pygi: yes [10:32] slomo__: thanks for package :) [10:32] now UVFe? :) [10:32] pygi: np :) UVFe? what do you mean? it's already in dapper with a bunch of fixes :) [10:33] slomo__: damn, then I haven't updated :-P sorry :) === phanatic [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:34] hi people [10:35] we should sync sylpheed-claws-gtk2 from debian [10:35] the one in dapper is broken [10:35] and UVF was granted 2 months ago :/ [10:36] ivoks: uh,huh :-/ [10:36] pygi: ok :) tell me if something else is broken ;) [10:36] ivoks: so just sync it or ask for another UVF exception for the current version ;) [10:36] version didn't change [10:37] uhm... shouldn't elmo sync from debian? [10:37] (/me wasn't here last couple of months :) [10:37] ivoks: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources#syncs === pygi slowly fades away [10:38] ok [10:38] slomo__: thanks === cyberserver [n=jp@bl6-25-111.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:48] Hi people. flashplugin-nonfree gone from the multiverse repository? [10:48] My apt-cache is not listing it === paniq [n=paniq@port-212-202-51-233.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gervystar [n=gervysta@217-133-96-194.b2b.tiscali.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:51] Forget-it.. multiverse was not enabled in my sources.list === hacosta [n=hector@201.138.168.82] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:04] I think flashplugin-nonfree is not being able to fetch macromedia's flash [11:05] This is a repackaged ubuntu installer... maybe we can have sucess using debain standart one? === hacosta [n=hector@201.138.168.82] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:14] Natja: ping? [11:16] ok, debian package has the same problem [11:16] are these contrib packages taken care by someone of ubuntu (out of motu) that we should contact? [11:18] slomo__: pong [11:19] ?!? Macromedia does not have the package available at all... [11:19] Natja: just wanted to tell you that motu-uvf is not responsible for syncs that import a new upstream version but were approved already and syncs that only import a new debian revision :) [11:20] slomo__: lol [11:20] nice comment on bug 39536 [11:20] Malone bug 39536 in sylpheed-claws-gtk2 "UVF exception: Sync request from sid" [Normal,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/39536 [11:20] slomo__: ok, sorry [11:22] Natja: np... nobody was killed ;) but thanks for looking at all the new bugs and assigning them somewhere when needed :) [11:24] ;) [11:24] gnje... i still have one bug open on one of my uploads :/ [11:24] but i think i will reject it [11:24] in a month or two === irvin [n=irvin@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu === No1Viking [n=Viking@h-83-140-104-3.ip.cust.port80.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === luka74 [n=lure@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:07] hi raphink [12:08] hi phanatic === TMM [n=hp@ip5650d1ab.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:29] Yagisan: you can set global CFLAGS on sbuild somehow === herzi [n=herzi@c220146.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:38] Yagisan: ah you can just do an export right in pbuilderrc === irvin [n=irvin@ubuntu/member/irvin] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] [12:52] heya MOTUs === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:53] do we have security team for universe? :) [12:54] we did [12:54] :) [12:54] i dont think anyone is actively working on it atm [12:54] ok, how can we upload security fixes to breezy? [12:54] we should [12:55] you make a release XubuntuY.1 [12:55] with the changelog [SECURITY] [12:55] mention all CVE's that apply [12:55] and send the source package to pitti [12:55] source.changes :) [12:55] ok [12:57] is someone on amd64 here and could test to build something for me? (it will take maybe some hours and a lot of ram) [12:58] sorry, no [12:58] (meaning i have no amd :) === highvoltage [n=Jono@mtngprs7.mtn.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:00] slomo__: yep [01:00] Toadstool: ok cool :) latest ikvm from debian/unstable [01:01] ok, let's go :) [01:01] our current version doesn't build on amd64... and the debian version builds on amd64 for some reason [01:01] 0.26.0.1-1 ? [01:01] yes [01:03] ok slomo__, building [01:03] doko: what should be used for compiling java stuff? ecj(-bootstrap) or something else? === patrick_ [n=patrick@235.Red-83-56-252.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:16] Toadstool: is it compiling? [01:16] yep, still compiling [01:16] at least something :) [01:16] the previous version failed instantly [01:17] I've got a few BUILD SUCCEEDED so I'm confident :) [01:18] gij-4.1 is eating a huge amount of cpu and ram ^^ [01:19] yes... unfortunately... if this fails later we could try compiling with gcj instead of ecj... maybe it works better === slomo__ gets some food... brb === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:45] slomo__: wow, it takes a *huge* amount of time to compile the classpath jars ^^ === erez [n=erez@CBL217-132-110-168.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #ubuntu-motu === elfantiel [n=freenode@unaffiliated/elfantiel] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=lure@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:16] Toadstool: i know :) is it finished? [02:16] nope [02:16] uh... mine was faster :) === mitsuhiko [n=nnnmitsu@ringmaster.active-4.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:17] slomo__: well, it's freezing on "exec /usr/bin/ecj-bootstrap -g -1.5 -nowarn -cp mscorlib.jar:System.jar @allsources.lst"... [02:18] but gij is still running [02:18] Toadstool: yeah that is the part that takes ages ;) does it still use your cpu for something? [02:18] yep, gij is eating 99% of my cpu :) [02:19] ok... so probably the gij JIT for x86 is much better than the amd64 one [02:19] yeah probably === chanakya [n=gaurav@61.17.123.189] has joined #ubuntu-motu === phanatic [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:30] hi people === ZuZubuntu-fr [n=ZuZubunt@AVelizy-154-1-26-141.w82-124.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.36] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:45] slomo__: still building... [02:46] :/ [02:49] i've never seen a package that long to build on my amd64 box :) [02:49] try openoffice :) [02:50] haha [02:50] slomo__: ugh, yeah. or koffice... === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === G0SUB [n=ghoseb@ubuntu/member/g0sub] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Meyer [n=meyer@ubuntu/member/mariomeyer] has joined #ubuntu-motu === xhaker [n=xhaker@83.223.186.63] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Meyer [i=mariomey@ubuntu/member/mariomeyer] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TMM [n=hp@ip5650d1ab.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying-ibook [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.36] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Meyer [i=mariomey@ubuntu/member/mariomeyer] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=lure@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mat [n=mat@igoan/mat] has joined #ubuntu-motu === irvin [n=irvin@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jinty [n=jinty@94.Red-83-58-173.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:36] Heya gang === ealden [n=ealden@203.76.212.118] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-motu === seth|lappy [n=seth@ubuntu/member/seth] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:59] slomo__: still building ikvm and gij-4.1 is still eating a lot of CPU... [04:00] Toadstool: :( [04:15] bugs filed against hoary that are fixed, but not necessarily in hoary - should I close em? === Meyer [i=mariomey@ubuntu/member/mariomeyer] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ealden [n=ealden@203.76.212.118] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Meyer [i=mariomey@ubuntu/member/mariomeyer] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ZuZubuntu-fr [n=ZuZubunt@AVelizy-154-1-6-87.w82-124.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:58] trappist: yes (late) === chanakya [n=gaurav@61.17.123.189] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [04:59] Amaranth: thanks [05:00] forgot what bug I was looking at, but that'll be helpful in the future :) [05:00] Amaranth: ditto for breezy? [05:00] yep [05:00] if it's fixed in dapper close it [05:00] cool [05:00] that's a lot of bugs === mitsuhiko [n=blackb1r@ringmaster.active-4.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:00] slomo__: I hate gij, that's so slow :) [05:01] hey folks! [05:01] hi siretart [05:02] huhu siretart [05:03] heyho Toadstool, hi bddebian === Meyer [n=meyer@ubuntu/member/mariomeyer] has joined #ubuntu-motu === irvin [n=irvin@ubuntu/member/irvin] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === caravena [n=caravena@164.77.169.186] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:19] Toadstool: still compiling? :) [05:19] yes [05:19] omg [05:19] :) [05:20] maybe gij has no JIT at all for amd64 but only an interpreter ;) [05:20] :D === No1Viking [n=Viking@h-83-140-104-3.ip.cust.port80.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === caravena [n=caravena@164.77.54.219] has joined #ubuntu-motu === JohnnyMast [n=rave@84-104-9-27.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zenrox [n=zenrox@71.115.198.118] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:08] has anyone seen dholbach ? [06:08] I think he said he was out until after Easter but don't quote me on that :-) === highvoltage [n=Jono@mtngprs7.mtn.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:10] bddebian: I see, I guess that goes for everyone or so [06:10] everywhere the ubuntu universe things look too quite for a friday afternoon :) [06:10] Except you, me, Toadstool, and slomo__ aparently :-) [06:10] :) [06:10] yes, apparently :) [06:11] Toadstool: still compiling? =) [06:11] yes :) === jaldhar [n=jaldhar@c-68-38-202-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:12] Hello jaldhar [06:12] slomo__: I think i'm going to beat the world longest compile time record :) === kelmo [n=kelmo@madwifi/support/kelmo] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:18] hi siretart [06:19] Toadstool: Nothing beats build glibc on GNU/Hurd, trust me! ;-) [06:19] heh [06:19] it's compilable? /me ducks [06:19] :D === ZuZubuntu-fr is now known as AWAY === tritium [n=tritium@ubuntu/member/tritium] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:24] crimsun: touche' :-) [06:24] Heya tritium [06:24] Hi there bddebian :) [06:29] hey kelmo [06:30] :(((((((( [06:30] bddebian: that takes more than a week on top-notch hardware? [06:30] man... i'm so angry and sad [06:31] ivoks: about what? [06:31] siretart: did you have your break yet? [06:31] tritium: about newest IT news in croatia [06:31] kelmo: I just returned home :) [06:31] Mithrandir: Nah, my longest is only about 2 days so far :-) [06:31] ivoks: I've not heard. What happened? [06:31] hi bddebian and tritium [06:31] Heya LaserJock [06:31] Hi LaserJock [06:31] tritium: company that has 60% of Internet in croatia buyed other company (wich has 30%) [06:31] bddebian: try axiom on m68k some day. :-P [06:31] Oh... [06:32] so.. now we have one ISP [06:32] kelmo: fortunately, there was a nice neighbor of the hotel, who offered a unsecured wireless ap, which I used for a ssh or to to read & answer some emails :) [06:32] and that's the worst one [06:32] ivoks: :( [06:32] siretart: i noticed ; ) [06:32] :) [06:32] siretart: trust the trip was a good one then [06:32] hi ivoks! [06:32] ivoks: nice to see you back. and in action :) [06:32] siretart: hi yeah... [06:33] siretart: things can changes since prices will go up now :) [06:33] the trip to vienna was nice. very nice city, charming people, we had a great time :) [06:35] OK damnit, why can't scilab find Xaw3d and Xmu? === No1Viking [n=Viking@h-83-140-104-3.ip.cust.port80.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:37] bddebian: it looks for them in /usr/X11R6? [06:38] ivoks: I changed configure.in and did an autoreconf so it shouldn't ?? [06:38] check the config.log [06:45] azeem: Bah, that's like work :-) === allee [n=ach@dialin-212-144-131-232.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === patrick_ [n=patrick@181.Red-88-8-117.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === v3rmap [n=puser@61.3.125.104] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:20] I'm trying to install gtk2 dev libs on Dapper flight 6, but hit some errors:http://pastebin.com/659830 [07:20] Any suggestions on what to try to fix the problems? [07:21] v3rmap: you're trying to install breezy's libgtk2.0-dev [07:23] azeem, I need the dapper version of the lib. I had breezy and I upgraded. Is there something else I should try? [07:23] maybe apt-cache policy libgtk2.0-dev [07:24] see whether that gives you some hints [07:24] or try apt-get install libgtk2.0-dev=2.8.16-1ubuntu1 or something [07:24] I'm off, bye === highvoltage [n=Jono@mtngprs7.mtn.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:24] bye, thanks. === seth|lappy [n=seth@ubuntu/member/seth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === herzi [n=herzi@d124003.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === junior [n=junior@dsl-201-128-181-236.prod-infinitum.com.mx] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fredix [n=fredix@202.70.97-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cbx33 [n=pete@84-45-238-195.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jpatrick [n=patrick@ubuntu/member/jpatrick] has joined #ubuntu-motu === v3rmap [n=puser@unaffiliated/v3rmap] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === Arrogance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-209-217-83-156.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:48] slomo__: still building... :/ [07:50] Toadstool: unbelievable... would be interesting to know whether this finishes at all or just sits in a endless loop [07:51] yep... but no output at all and I can't see a way to diagnose what's going on... [07:51] me neither... but that's normal [07:53] i think i'm going to kill the gij process and see what I can do to get a more verbose output === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:56] slomo__: http://pastebin.com/659958 <-- end of the buildlog [07:57] after you killed it? [07:57] yep [07:57] ok... everything normal ;) [07:57] 24592.9 seconds <- nice ^^ [07:57] that's not normal :P [07:58] heh === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:08] slomo__: trying to build with verbose output [08:09] Toadstool: thanks :) [08:09] np, I have cpu cycles to share ;) [08:11] Toadstool: you could also try to run it for the next week ;) [08:11] heh [08:17] slomo: hey sebastian! [08:17] siretart: hi :) [08:18] slomo: according to the verbose output, it's really building something but really really slowly :D [08:20] Toadstool: so my guess was probably right... only interpreted on amd64 :/ [08:20] yep :/ [08:22] want to write a decent JIT? ;) [08:22] huhu :) [08:24] I definitely ban Java and .NET/Mono from my known languages :p [08:27] why? ;) === Lathiat [n=lathiat@ubuntu/member/pdpc.basic.lathiat] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:32] somebody spelled definitely right. that always makes my day. === carthik [n=carthik@pdpc/supporter/student/carthik] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:35] I can definately misspell wurds. [08:37] I notised === chillywilly [n=danielb@CPE-24-209-126-16.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:57] trappist: haha, are you going to start checking all the changelogs for spelling/grammar? [08:57] I'll leave the changelogs alone. but I've started my campaign to fix config file comments, man pages, error messages, etc. [08:58] that's a huge campaign :) [08:58] yeah [08:59] a lot of developers have a first language other than english, and a lot of others just don't care, but I think the spelling and grammar problems make for a nasty smear on the polish [09:00] agreed [09:07] trappist: just be aware of regional differences [09:08] for instance, American English tends to use "different from" rather than "different to" [09:08] crimsun: sure - I don't try to "correct" colour to color, etc. [09:08] crimsun: that stuff too. all my favorite authors are british, so I can spot those. [09:09] I mostly go after my personal pet peeves, like its/it's, their/they're/there, your/you're, etc. [09:10] and of course defin[^(ite)] ly [09:11] :D === lbm [n=lbm@x1-6-00-13-10-7a-d1-e4.k233.webspeed.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === patrick_ [n=patrick@157.Red-83-53-146.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Natja [n=Natja@192-116.241.81.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:54] slomo: What is Sivangs package on REVU?? [09:55] bddebian: it's not on revu [09:55] look at the mail [09:55] Oh, heh [10:00] Hmm, doesn't build for me :-) === ogra_ibook [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cassidy [n=cassidy@223.208-136-217.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === carthik [n=carthik@pdpc/supporter/student/carthik] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ozamosi [n=nnnnozam@ubuntu/member/ozamosi] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lakin [n=lakin@S01060013101832ce.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Meyer [i=mariomey@ubuntu/member/mariomeyer] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Meyer_ [i=mariomey@ubuntu/member/mariomeyer] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:11] help [11:11] oops...heylo [11:14] hmmm....my uploads to universe seems to be dropping for some reason.. [11:18] morning all === Kyral [n=kyral@ubuntu/member/kyral] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:19] tseng: I've actually scripted up pbuilders on tmpfs here, so I'm more likely to take either the pbuilderrc option, or script up a package like pentium-builder === Meyer [i=mariomey@ubuntu/member/mariomeyer] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kyral [n=kyral@ubuntu/member/kyral] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gervystar [n=alessand@ip-124-244.adsl.cheapnet.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === G0SUB_ [i=ghoseb@ubuntu-in.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:25] Heya Yagisan [11:27] morning/evening bddebian === Yagisan mubles about shops closing [11:27] bddebian: enjoying your break ? [11:28] No, not feeling well and trying to fix bugs I can't fix :-( You? [11:30] bddebian: just woke up today (OMG I woke up at 7am, not 2pm, the world is ending!), and thoroughly cursing the fact that most shops have shut over the easter break. [11:32] bddebian: what's wrong ? eat something you shouldn't have ? [11:36] Nah, getting a cold I think :-( === cbx33 [n=pete@84-45-238-195.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kyral [n=kyral@ubuntu/member/kyral] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kyral [n=kyral@ubuntu/member/kyral] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Meyer_ [i=mariomey@ubuntu/member/mariomeyer] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:59] ok, this day will be remebered by cups hell :) === G0SUB_ [i=ghoseb@ubuntu-in.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:01] someone pinged me today? === iceman [n=iceman@58-202.241.81.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu