[04:00] <mpt> Gooooooooooooooooooooooood afternoon Launchpadders!
[04:01] <ddaa> mpt: do you realise it's Easter Saturday?
[04:02] <mpt> yes, ddaa
[04:03] <ddaa> there's been no activity to speak of the whole day, and that was just friday...
[04:04] <mpt> that's not good
[04:08] <lifeless> ddaa: check my blog. no activity muahha
[04:10] <ddaa> damn, it has bitrotten, I can only make out every other chars
[04:10] <SteveA> good morning antipodeans
[04:10] <SteveA> and ddaa
[04:10] <ddaa> SteveA: zope breaks my brain
[04:11] <SteveA> lifeless: http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=28564439  ?
[04:11] <ddaa> I decided to add a default value to a ValidPersonOrTeam selector, I made it actually work, but it's wrong on sooo many levels :(
[04:11] <SteveA> ddaa: i have no reply to that
[04:12] <ddaa> I just hardcode the widget class in the zcml for that page, bypassing all the mystical zope widget-schema-vocabulary divination.
[04:14] <lifeless> SteveA: I'm so cool
[04:14] <lifeless> ddaa: planet.ubuntu.com will do
[04:16] <ddaa> I actually found it, I was just teasing
[04:16] <ddaa> but I realise that you did blog recently
[04:16] <ddaa> I'm not sure whether this hack is nice or evil
[04:18] <ddaa> yeah!
[04:19] <ddaa> just made branch name optional in the add forms :)
[04:25] <mdke> does anyone know if it is intentional that rosetta doesn't wrap lines anymore?
[04:25] <mdke> i've just discovered that translating is about as easy as lion taming
[04:29] <mdke> ah, it is wrapping the lines, but only after about a thousand characters or something
[04:31] <mpt> mdke, bug #?
[04:31] <mdke> mpt, is it a bug? Rosetta used to wrap lines much shorter. Presumably it's intentional to have increased it?
[04:32] <mdke> (it looks like about 500 characters, 1000 was an exagerration)
[04:34] <mdke> ok, I don't see a bug in the tracker yet
[04:36] <mpt> mdke, anything that makes you scroll both horizontally and vertically is a bug
[04:37] <mdke> mpt, ok, it's a massive bug then :) Just filing now
[04:38] <mdke> mpt, bug #39616
[04:38] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 39616 in rosetta "lines are wrapper after about 500 characters" [Major,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/39616
[04:38] <mdke> gah
[04:41] <ddaa> mpt: got an idea to deal with the left and right columns
[04:41] <ddaa> why not just rotate the whole content of the page 90 degrees counterclockwise
[04:42] <ddaa> so the portlet columns would end up conveniently at the top and bottom of the page
[04:42] <ddaa> then we just have to get our users to turn their screens on the side
[04:43] <ddaa> mpt: how does that sound?
[04:44] <mpt> hmmmm
[04:45] <ddaa> I happen to have a screen that can rotate, so I would not be personally inconvenienced :)
[04:45] <mpt> I think the real answer is much simpler
[04:45] <mpt> Animated Portlets.
[04:45] <ddaa> I can tell you, it feels weird typing with a screen rotate 90 degrees CW
[04:46] <ddaa> and I must also look quite ridiculous, luckily nobody is looking at me bending my head on the side
[04:46] <ddaa> mhhhh
[04:47] <ddaa> on second tought, it would be fantastic to have xorg actually support rotation with my video... I could fit sooooo much more code in the screen!
[04:47] <ddaa> mpt: animated?
[04:47] <ddaa> In the "click me, haha, try again" style?
[04:47] <ddaa> so that they are never in the way?
[04:48] <mdke> mpt, is that sort of bug your territory? (the line wrapping thing)
[04:48] <mpt> #portal-column-one, #portal-column-two {marquee: 10px/s vertical loop;}
[04:48] <ddaa> woaaaa!
[04:49] <ddaa> where's my pipe? gotta have some of this crack!
[04:49] <mpt> The problem is it wouldn't work in Epiphany, because Epiphany has marquee and blinking text turned off by default :-(
[04:49] <ddaa> mpt: actually, I think you can actually make that work using some clever javascript
[04:50] <mpt> mdke, yes
[04:50] <ddaa> You mean, it's actually meant to work???
[04:50] <mdke> mpt, ah good.
[04:51] <mpt> hmmm, in the past month bugzilla.ubuntu.com has overtaken Launchpad in the Google results for 'ubuntu bugs'
[04:52] <mpt> that's strange
[04:52] <ddaa> mpt: launchpad links to bugzilla?
[04:53] <lifeless> mpt: perhaps all the bugwatches ?
[04:53] <lifeless> mpt: makes it into a referenced-site
[04:53] <mpt> yeah, probably the bug watches
[04:53] <mpt> though they're more than a month old
[04:53] <lifeless> takes a while to propogate
[04:55] <ddaa> mpt: okay, I tested, that css does not actually do anything :)
[04:55] <mpt> ddaa, you obviously have too much spare time
[04:55] <ddaa> man, I'm overworked, and on vacation
[04:56] <mpt> Ahhhhh, https://launchpad.net/projects/launchpad/+bugs is great
[04:56] <ddaa> and completely jetlagged because I stayed for too long in my appt
[04:57] <ddaa> mpt: "sort by priority, then severity"
[04:57] <ddaa> I see no column "priority" or "severity" in that table
[04:57] <ddaa> I think sort keys should always be visible
[04:58] <ddaa> otherwise the display makes no sense
[04:59] <mpt> mdke, that looks like bug 4646
[04:59] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 4646 in rosetta "Multi-line suggestions cause over-wide pages in Konqueror and Safari" [Normal,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/4646
[04:59] <mpt> ddaa, that will be fixed as soon as the next MaloneSimplifications land
[04:59] <mdke> mpt, I saw that but I thought that it wasn't the same
[04:59] <ddaa> cool
[05:00] <ddaa> mpt: BTW, I have to nag you about bazaar-ui new
[05:00] <ddaa> now, because I'm on leave tuesday and wednesday
[05:00] <ddaa> Mh... should mail the list...
[05:01] <mdke> mpt, mainly because that bug is really old and I remember rosetta wrapping lines properly in the old days. And primarily because I don't use safari. Might be related though, I dunno
[05:01] <mpt> ddaa, no, it's not Tuesday yet
[05:01] <ddaa> I'm on leave tuesday
[05:01] <ddaa> and wednesday
[05:01] <ddaa> So I have to nag you now
[05:01] <mpt> mdke, possibly launchpad.css has lost the stuff that was making Gecko wrap <pre>
[05:01] <mdke> mpt, I dunno. If you could fix it, it would make the world of difference to translating documents with long strings
[05:03] <mdke> mpt, but it's not just suggestions (as described in 4646), it's the original string that doesn't wrap either.
[05:05] <mpt> mdke, yes, the <pre> forces the middle column to be wide, and then Gecko thinks "oh, we have all this width, may as well use it for everything"
[05:05] <mdke> ah
[05:05] <mdke> ok, so it's not just safari then :)
[05:06] <ddaa> layout engines are such a nasty problem
[05:15] <mpt> Well, it *was* just Safari+Konqueror, but the pre rule in launchpad.css has lost its Gecko-specific hacks
[05:15] <mpt> which I shall restore
[05:15] <mpt> hmm
[05:16] <mpt> Possibly a better solution is to put those suggestions in a read-only <textarea>
[05:17] <mdke> I don't get subscribed to a bug report if my bug gets marked as a dup of it?
[05:19] <mdke> oh well. Night all
[05:22] <jamesh> mpt: was the current reduction in font size for bug listings really on purpose?
[05:23] <jamesh> mpt: doing "smaller" on 85% font size ends up really tiny
[05:24] <mpt> jamesh, no, bug listings aren't supposed to have a separate "smaller"
[05:25] <mpt> mdke, no, the DuplicateBugHandling spec isn't implemented yet
[05:25] <jamesh> mpt: okay.  What I see right now is "table.listing" uses 85% font size, and then "table.listing>tbody" uses "smaller" as the font size
[09:31] <dilys> Merge to devel/launchpad/: [r=kiko]  Add drivers to upstream and distribution, and automatic trunk series. (r3472: Mark Shuttleworth)
[09:56] <sabdfl> whoo-aahhh
[09:58] <tambaqui> What time is now in London?
[01:52] <Tronfi> hi all
[01:52] <sabdfl> hey
[01:53] <sabdfl> 37156
[01:53] <sabdfl> #37156
[01:53] <sabdfl> bug 37156
[01:53] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 37156 in launchpad-upload-and-queue "can't change sections or priorities with change-override.py" [Major,In progress]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/37156
[01:53] <sabdfl> ah
[01:55] <Tronfi> where can i find a list of not translated aplications, to start with me?
[01:58] <jsgotangco> sabdfl, no holiday for you?
[01:59] <jsgotangco> Tronfi, what language are you looking for
[02:00] <Tronfi> spanish
[02:01] <Tronfi> but i don't want to suggest to others translators, i want to be the official translator
[02:02] <jsgotangco> Tronfi, you'll have to join the spanish translators launchpad group for that
[02:02] <Tronfi> oh, ok, thanks :)
[02:03] <Tronfi> sorry, but... i can't find where are the groups
[02:03] <Tronfi> yap!
[02:03] <Tronfi> i've found
[02:04] <jsgotangco> cool
[06:11] <sabdfl> is staging down for a code update, or down because it died?
[07:40] <necromancer> anyone knows how to disable "close tab" button in epiphany and gedit? gnome channel is dead :(
[10:37] <tambaqui> help me: