[12:00] <sd> Partion manager will not edit size of partion "media/hda1" (C:/), that partition has 20gb etra space..
[12:00] <Cerveza> nazgulwalker, O(n^2)
[12:00] <qkslvrwolf> i.e, http://sfx-images.mozilla.org/affiliates/Buttons/88x31/get.gif
[12:00] <qkslvrwolf> perhaps it has another name
[12:00] <mwe> mike13: before trying what again?
[12:00] <nazgulwalker> Cerveza , thanks so much .
[12:01] <cablop> thanks a lot, now i'm surfing the directory of that ubuntu machine
[12:01] <cablop> thanks a lot
[12:01] <cablop> see you guys, have a nice time
[12:01] <sd> Partion manager will not edit size of partion "media/hda1" (C:/), that partition has 20gb extra space.. Anyone have any ideas?
[12:01] <id`> qkslvrwolf: eh, how is an image bound to an operating system...
[12:01] <nickrud> nazgulwalker, Cerveza what was that?
[12:01] <george_> helou aguna persona de Puerto Rico
[12:01] <mike13> before tryinbg again on display :0
[12:01] <edir> who is using dapper?
[12:01] <Cerveza> nazgulwalker, big O notation is always c*something with an n so you can get rid of anything next to the n
[12:01] <qkslvrwolf> ???
[12:02] <qkslvrwolf> Its just to go on my blog to show support for ubuntu.
[12:02] <Cerveza> and technically its O(n^2 + n)
[12:02] <mwe> mike13: I don't understand
[12:02] <qkslvrwolf> I'd link ubuntulinux.org
[12:02] <id`> owwww hah :P
[12:02] <Cerveza> but for a big enough n, n^2 dwarfs n
[12:02] <Cerveza> so you don't need to worry about it
[12:02] <facugaich> george_: necesitas ayuda?
[12:02] <_jason> facugaich: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12260
[12:02] <george_> sib
[12:02] <george_> un antivirus
[12:03] <sd> Partion manager will not edit size of partion "media/hda1" (C:/), that partition has 20gb extra space.. Anyone have any ideas?
[12:03] <shadow__> Hi, I have a 2pc's connected over a crosscable. i have pc1 ( My Gateway [mandriva]  : 192.168.1.1 ) and pc2 ( ubuntu : 192.168.1.2 ). I have my gateway:pc1 configured with iptables to do nat/masq, and is working well. Once i connect the cable and do "ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.2 up;route add default gw 192.168.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0" from pc2. after that i can ping pc1 and pc2 bothways. but i cannot ping google.com or its IP from pc2. Pls help ?
[12:03] <_jason> facugaich: basically in that command, you just need to escape the . because it represents the 'any character' in regex
[12:03] <qkslvrwolf> sd:  have you tried using something like system recovery cd and working with it without the os loaded in memory?
[12:03] <facugaich> _jason: that code recuses down directories?
[12:04] <mwe> but big O need not be tight
[12:04] <_jason> facugaich: ah no, for that you will need bash trickery
[12:04] <george_> e tratado de instalar el avg pero sin ningun resultado
[12:04] <facugaich> its ok
[12:04] <facugaich> I can do it with find
[12:04] <_jason> facugaich: yeah
[12:04] <sd> qkslvrwikd: I don't understand how that would help, the computer as is is uneditable to the main(C:\) partition
[12:05] <id`> There is no lighttpd, there is one for badger. Can I install it?: http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/web/
[12:05] <facugaich> george_: en ubuntu?
[12:05] <echo> !xinerama
[12:05] <ubotu> xinerama is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=xinerama&titlesearch=Titles Hopefully, one of these works for you, and feedback is welcome
[12:05] <george_> sib
[12:05] <george_> en ubuntu
[12:06] <naxxtor> why won't' hcitool detect my bluetooth dongle :( i don't get it - all the drivers are loaded, and it's listed in lsusb, it's just there arn't any /dev/hci* entries
[12:06] <Cerveza> when I try to ./configure gplflash it sets my system for x86-64, but when I run check install it says my system (amd64) is incompatible
[12:06] <facugaich> guys, george_ is in need of an antivirus
[12:06] <sd> for linux?
[12:06] <id`> for linux?
[12:06] <george_> for ubuntu
[12:06] <nickrud> es!
[12:06] <MYP> !es
[12:06] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:06] <celerex> CalamAV
[12:06] <mwe> id`: sudo apt-get install lighttpd
[12:07] <donlduck> hi
[12:07] <facugaich> oh, there you go george
[12:07] <nickrud> doh, MYP
[12:07] <donlduck> what program should i install so that i can debug my c code?
[12:07] <gnomefreak> celerex: isnt there an apt way of getting it?
[12:07] <id`> mwe: why is it not in the package manager then? Do i need to enable some repo's in some conf?
[12:07] <george_> ubotu_gracias
[12:07] <Cerveza> donlduck, gdb
[12:07] <celerex> donlduck: gdb
[12:07] <sd> okay fine, ima try and install xandros again
[12:07] <donlduck> i need to trace the error of my c which line
[12:07] <donlduck> ok Cerveza
[12:07] <donlduck> thanks
[12:07] <celerex> gnomefreak: try apt-cache search clamav
[12:07] <Cerveza> np
[12:07] <mwe> id`: it is. you need to enable !universe though
[12:07] <celerex> should show up or at least show you what packages will have it
[12:07] <LeafWiz> why can't i install vncserver from apt-get?
[12:08] <mwe> !tell id` about universe
[12:08] <gnomefreak> celerex: i know what that is and where to find it :(
[12:08] <id`> mwe: how would i do thaT? pointer to the wiki maybe?
[12:08] <id`> thanks
[12:08] <facugaich> so, there's no need for an antivirus at all in linux?
[12:08] <Cerveza> LeafWiz, why do you need vncserver? you have ssh -X
[12:08] <mjr> not really at the moment
[12:08] <mike13> mwe> i wrote you mp with error message
[12:08] <george_> facugaich__Gracias
[12:08] <nickrud> LeafWiz, probably since you don't have universe enabled, see the ubotu link below
[12:08] <nickrud> !repos
[12:08] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[12:08] <gnomefreak> Cerveza: sudo apt-get install libflash-mozplugin     thats all
[12:08] <Cerveza> gnomefreak, doesn't work
[12:08] <mwe> facugaich: malware tends to not spread system wide because users are not superusers by default in linux
[12:09] <gnomefreak> Cerveza: what does it say? reason not working)
[12:09] <Cerveza> ubuntu suggested recompiling from source
[12:09] <Elazar> I have the USB flash drive component of a Creative MuVo plugged into my Ubuntu 5.1 system, but it doesn't seem to be recognizing it. I'm a bit of a n00b when it comes to Ubuntu. Suggestions?
[12:09] <facugaich> george_: no hay necesidad de antivirus en ubuntu
[12:09] <Cerveza> it installs but no flash will run
[12:09] <george_> o
[12:09] <scifi> anyone know why my monitors refrsh rate was limited to 60hz with the live cd?
[12:09] <gnomefreak> Cerveza: did you restart FF
[12:09] <george_> gracias
[12:09] <Cerveza> yup
[12:09] <mwe> mike13: ?
[12:09] <Cerveza> rebooted even
[12:09] <nickrud> scifi, probably because your monitor didn't report it's capabilties when asked
[12:09] <facugaich> de nada jorge
[12:09] <gnomefreak> Cerveza: ok than just pretty much cut and paste the source instructions
[12:09] <gnomefreak> should be fairly easy
[12:10] <Cerveza> ?
[12:10] <nickrud> scifi, try the command sudo ddcprobe
[12:10] <Cerveza> don't know what you mean by that
[12:10] <mwe> scifi: because the xorg.conf is not tuned for you card, probably
[12:10] <gnomefreak> Cerveza: on the flash page there are instructions for compiling the source
[12:10] <Cerveza> yes
[12:10] <george_> bay
[12:10] <Cerveza> they failed
[12:10] <cablop> hello people, me again, i have a simple question
[12:10] <id`> mwe: I get the duh award :P
[12:10] <Cerveza> checkinstall says it won't install a x86-64.deb
[12:10] <Cerveza> because i'm amd64
[12:11] <nickrud> id`, I OWN that award, but I'll share :)
[12:11] <id`> nickrud: ;o
[12:11] <gnomefreak> Cerveza: than i would use make install
[12:11] <qkslvrwolf> ok, ya'll, a firefox booster button is available here: http://qkslvrwolf.com/wp-content/themes/andreas04/images/firefox-button.png
[12:11] <scifi> nickrud/mwe: so it wud be easy to resolve if i did indeed install ubuntu
[12:11] <mwe> scifi: probably
[12:11] <nickrud> scifi, yes, there's a lot of tools to fix theat
[12:11] <gnomefreak> Cerveza: as long as you have checkinstall installed it should work for that
[12:11] <Cerveza> its the .configure file
[12:12] <Cerveza> it detected my system as x86-64
[12:12] <cablop> ok, does anybody how to save the commandline output of an application? in DOS i use "application > file.log"  to do that in bash what i need?
[12:12] <qkslvrwolf> *make that ubuntu booster button
[12:12] <qkslvrwolf> whoops
[12:12] <gnomefreak> Cerveza: thats what it is isnt it?
[12:12] <nickrud> !tell scifi about fixres
[12:12] <Cerveza> its amd64
[12:12] <mwe> cablop: you can do it like that. it want save errors though
[12:12] <facugaich> cablop: I think its the same
[12:12] <Cerveza> apparently there is some sortof difference in the eyes of checkinstall
[12:12] <naxxtor> cablop, the same works in bash
[12:12] <digen> _jason, u there
[12:12] <Elazar> I have the USB flash drive component of a Creative MuVo plugged into my Ubuntu 5.1 system, but it doesn't seem to be recognizing it. I'm a bit of a n00b when it comes to Ubuntu. Suggestions?
[12:12] <nickrud> scifi, that link in the pm from ubotu has details
[12:12] <scifi> nickrud:it also didnt detect my origo asr-8000 modem router...but obivously i need to install some linux drivers for that?
[12:12] <gnomefreak> Cerveza: are you on breezy or dapper?
[12:12] <Cerveza> although I thought x86-64 was amd64
[12:12] <mwe> cablop: you'd need foobar > file.log 2>&1
[12:12] <scifi> ty
[12:12] <gimmulf_> !skype
[12:12] <Cerveza> breezy
[12:12] <ubotu> somebody said skype was http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/
[12:13] <gnomefreak> hmmmmm
[12:13] <nickrud> scifi, I don't know that router, so I won't venture a guess
[12:13] <mzuverink> can someone point me to a link that give instructions in how to upgrade breezy to dapper
[12:13] <digen> installation finished, it gives a new error now
[12:13] <digen> checking for DBUS... configure: error: Package requirements (dbus-glib-1 >= 0.60) were not met:
[12:13] <digen> Requested 'dbus-glib-1 >= 0.60' but version of dbus-glib is 0.36.2
[12:13] <gnomefreak> digen: please dont paste in here use pastebin
[12:13] <digen> gnomefreak, k i'm sorry
[12:13] <cablop> mwe, in this line "foobar > file.log 2>&1" why we use two times the symbol ">"?
[12:14] <nickrud> scifi, can you use your browser to access your router?
[12:14] <mike13> mwe: i wrote the message in a separate window
[12:14] <scifi> erm i didnt try it....but possibly
[12:14] <Cerveza> make install didn't work at all
[12:14] <mwe> cablop: the firs redirects stdout. the second directs stderr to stdout
[12:15] <scifi> wud "sudo ddcprobe | grep monitorrange" command work even for the live cd?
[12:15] <cablop> woa! thanks
[12:15] <mwe> cablop: hence all is directed to the file
[12:15] <mwe> mike13: I didn't get it. you need to be registered at freenode to /msg people on the network
[12:16] <naxxtor> what could possibly be wrong - i don't get this at all ... everything points to the device being correctly loaded, but for some reason it isn't!
[12:16] <gimmulf_> !bluetooth
[12:16] <ubotu> [bluetooth]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BluetoothSetup and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BluetoothRemote
[12:16] <facugaich> _jason: this will do? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12261
[12:16] <gnomefreak> Cerveza: are you sure you have everything needed to compile it?
[12:16] <Cerveza> Well I had everything via apt-get
[12:16] <scifi> !origo
[12:16] <ubotu> scifi: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:16] <Cerveza> and the only thing I removed was the flash
[12:16] <Elazar> Anybody?
[12:17] <Cerveza> so I should have all the dependencies
[12:17] <nickrud> scifi, possibly, but the live cd is really only an example, not a true version of ubuntu.
[12:18] <scifi> yeh, i understand.....maybe i shud just go ahead and partition instead of messing about :p
[12:18] <id`> '$ sudo ls -AlF ~/share/audio' reveals that the directory is owned by tom. I did a 'chown -R ~/share tom' before that. I cant access the directory with my user. Why? :P
[12:18] <nickrud> scifi, quit messing around, get on the stick :)
[12:18] <naxxtor> AHA.  dmesg shows this: "bcm203x: probe of 2-1:1.0 failed with error -5
[12:18] <naxxtor> " when i insert the dongle
[12:19] <donlduck> how do i know mysql server is installed?
[12:19] <scifi> on the stick? sorry dont know all the linux jingo yet :)
[12:19] <Cerveza> just partition and install
[12:19] <mwe> id`: wrong syntax
[12:19] <nickrud> donlduck, dpkg -l mysql-server
[12:19] <scifi> hehe
[12:20] <id`> mwe: meh :|
[12:20] <nickrud> scifi, gimme a break :)
[12:20] <mwe> id`: it's chown -R tom ~/share
[12:20] <gnomefreak> donlduck: apt-cache policy <packagename>
[12:20] <scifi> sorry
[12:20] <id`> <--- boke
[12:20] <manicka> morning all :)
[12:21] <manicka> does anyone know where evolution 2.6 stores its account information? It's not in /.gconf/apps/evolution/mail/accounts like it used to be
[12:21] <nickrud> scifi, it's a figure of speach, and means get cracking (lol)
[12:21] <donlduck> un  mysql-server          <none>                (no description available)
[12:21] <donlduck> i got this one
[12:21] <nickrud> donlduck, then not installed
[12:21] <scifi> ive also read about easyubuntu, which looks like it solves alot of multimedia codec issues in one swoop, wud u recommend using that once i have ubuntu sorted?
[12:21] <siimo> hi anyone expert with gnome menus? i have eclipse installed in /opt and if i run /opt/eclipse/eclipse as both user or root then it runs fine but a gnome menu with same exec command says i dont have java in my path... but i do ... if i try using a bash shell
[12:21] <nickrud> donlduck, the u means desired status is uninstalled, n means current status is not installed
[12:22] <donlduck> ok
[12:22] <donlduck> doing sudo apt-get -y install mysql-server
[12:22] <donlduck> am i right?
[12:22] <nickrud> donlduck, yup
[12:22] <donlduck> btw any other c debugging program besides gdb?
[12:23] <nickrud> donlduck, but, please don't use -y , there may be questions you may want to answer
[12:23] <mike23> mwe: sorry i've been disconnected
[12:23] <gimmulf_> !bluetooth
[12:23] <ubotu> somebody said bluetooth was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BluetoothSetup and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BluetoothRemote
[12:23] <mebaran151> hey
[12:23] <mebaran151> why isn't rubygems included by default
[12:23] <donlduck> ok
[12:23] <mwe> donlduck: ddd is a pretty nice front end
[12:23] <mebaran151> the rails setup with Ubuntu is seriously borked
[12:23] <scifi> when i partition with ubuntu, will i still be able to access the 1st partition in windows?
[12:23] <mwe> donlduck: gdb rocks but has a steap learning curve
[12:24] <MrKubuntuUser> mwe: I just tried out the parallel port on my home machine using Kubuntu Dapper Flight 6 LiveCD
[12:24] <Marineboy> scifi, Yes, It gave me the option to add another partition
[12:24] <mwe> MrKubuntuUser: yes
[12:24] <MrKubuntuUser> mwe:  I have the BIOS configured properly
[12:24] <MrKubuntuUser> I modprobed lp, parport, and parport_pc in that order
[12:24] <donlduck> ill install ddd then
[12:24] <scifi> marineboy:k ty
[12:24] <Marineboy> scifi: yw :)
[12:24] <MrKubuntuUser> mwe: and no DMA
[12:25] <mwe> MrKubuntuUser: odd
[12:25] <scifi> 250gig drive, so think take a 100gig chunk for the linux partition
[12:25] <coz> where is evolutions account information stored?
[12:25] <phoul> Anyone get amarok 1.4 on ubuntu by chance?
[12:25] <mike23> mwe : ?
[12:25] <nickrud> coz, evolution keeps the account info in gconf
[12:25] <mwe> scifi: that'd plenty and then a lot
[12:26] <phoul> Im wondering if anyone knows where i could find a deb or what ever
[12:26] <coz> nickrud, Ok do you knwo ecact location another guynees this information
[12:26] <phoul> anyone?
[12:26] <nickrud> coz, gconf-editor is the command, and /apps/evolution/mail is the key location
[12:26] <Marineboy> lol mwe, Now I gotta wait for the site to send me the disks.
[12:27] <coz> nickrud, ok thanks
[12:27] <Marineboy> I thought my writer wrote all the files, i went to sleep while it installed to find out that it deleted my windows partition and then was a corrupt installation file.
[12:27] <Marineboy> So now I have to boot my PC off the live version.
[12:28] <scifi> ouch marine
[12:28] <phoul> !amarok
[12:28] <ubotu> amarok is, like, a music player for Linux and Unix with an intuitive interface. See http://amarok.kde.org ; amaroK's features: http://amarok.kde.org/content/view/51/1/
[12:28] <nickrud> Marineboy, bummer
[12:28] <scifi> ur scaring me now :P
[12:28] <Marineboy> I know right!
[12:28] <Marineboy> Scifi.
[12:28] <Althulas> i got a serius problem. how can i convince someone to use ubuntu amd64 version if they say they absolutely need M$ money
[12:28] <coz> nickrud, apparently not there the other guy has looked as well
[12:28] <Althulas> any equivelent ?
[12:28] <coz> i will keep looking
[12:28] <naxxtor> right, check this out: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24876 <-- that is the exact problem, only i'm under breezy not hoary - and that package isn't available for hoary - what should I do?
[12:28] <Marineboy> You'll be fine, Just make sure your burner burns the entire .iso.
[12:28] <nickrud> coz, I'm looking at it as we speak
[12:28] <Althulas> or wine ?
[12:28] <Althulas> ive never used wine
[12:29] <Althulas> however
[12:29] <scifi> ive read that hi-def video will run slightly smoother on a linux system than windows...thats one of a few reasons why i'd like to try it
[12:29] <Marineboy> ill bb, let me call a friend and see if i can go to her house and burn it.
[12:30] <cablop> ummm
[12:30] <cablop> i have next qestion: i have a .sh file with this line inside but ubuntu reports me an error when using it "CLASSPATH=/opt/grinder/lib/grinder.jar
[12:30] <cablop> export CLASSPATH"
[12:30] <nickrud> Althulas, take a look at http://www.codeweavers.com/compatibility/search?name=money&company=&medal=&date_start%5B1%5D=1&date_start%5B2%5D=1&date_start%5B0%5D=2000&date_start%5B3%5D=0&date_start%5B4%5D=00&date_end%5B1%5D=4&date_end%5B2%5D=14&date_end%5B0%5D=2006&date_end%5B3%5D=17&date_end%5B4%5D=30&search=app , if one of those is right, he can run crossover office
[12:31] <cablop> ubuntu sdaid me "not a valid identifier: export: `CLASSPATH"
[12:31] <cablop> what is the problem?
[12:31] <Althulas> thanks nick
[12:31] <Althulas> nickrud:
[12:31] <kbrooks> cablop: you have to split into 2 lines
[12:31] <Althulas> what is crossover office exactly ?
[12:32] <baquero22> i have a big problem.. trying to share my folders with my winxp laptop but nothing happends when i right-clic and shared the folders
[12:32] <ardchoille> http://www.gnomehelp.org/ardchoille/temp/variety_ubuntu_splash.png
[12:32] <nickrud> Althulas, point him at the 386 version, don't saddle him with the 64 bit version
[12:32] <ardchoille> http://www.gnomehelp.org/ardchoille/temp/variety_ubuntu_background.png
[12:32] <ardchoille> :)
[12:32] <baquero22> as well i tried to go to system and folder sharing but that application always freeze
[12:32] <nickrud> Althulas, it's a customized version of wine
[12:32] <Marineboy> ill be back soon because I'm going to download it again
[12:32] <baquero22> i can open it as root or as anyuser and its freeze
[12:32] <mwe> Althulas: modified wine aimed at windows office
[12:32] <Althulas> ah
[12:32] <Althulas> nice nice
[12:32] <mike_> I love ubuntu.
[12:32] <cablop> kbrooks, how to split ythem, only enter?
[12:33] <cablop> they're yet splitted
[12:34] <id`> When I press my media buttons on my laptop keyboard gnome gives me a nice volume display. It uses Master. I want it to use PCM. What is it/where can i find or config it?
[12:34] <naxxtor> uhm - how do you get the kernel version?
[12:34] <twidget> I'm unable to format my /home 155.5GB partition as FAT32. Would someone help me figure out why?
[12:34] <crimsun> naxxtor: uname -r
[12:34] <naxxtor> crimsun, cheers
[12:34] <baquero22> hey no idea about why my system ---> shared foldres.   get freeze each time i open it???
[12:34] <nickrud> twidget, home needs to be a linux partition, not fat32
[12:34] <cablop> if i use that lines directly i can run it, but not from inside the .sh file
[12:35] <cablop> how to say in a .sh file there's an end of line?
[12:35] <shray__> hi how may I switch to a faster mirror in ubuntu.. the current one its using is only going 100KB/s down
[12:35] <twidget> I was told I could format it as FAT32 and have it be seen both my Windows XP and Ubuntu (for my documents)
[12:35] <echo> can someone help me edit my xorg.conf file... i dont wanna be all screwin it up again
[12:35] <echo> tryin to do dual video on the same card
[12:35] <twidget> I was told wrong?
[12:36] <echo> twin view
[12:36] <zig_> Is XULrunner out as far as dapper drake is concerned, we are still sticking with the bloody firefox dependency
[12:36] <baquero22> soo anyone shared folders here???
[12:36] <nickrud> twidget, ignore that advice, maybe set up a 10-20gb fat32 that both ubuntu & windows can see, but home must be a linux type partition
[12:36] <baquero22> i just installed samba
[12:36] <baquero22> and i can see my ubuntu from the laptop running xp
[12:36] <scifi> shray: lol whats wrong with 100k? :P ......try the torrent links, probly get faster speeds
[12:36] <baquero22> but i cannot add folders to the shared folders cuz that application freeze on my ubuntu
[12:37] <twidget> So, what's the recommended size for /home, then?
[12:37] <baquero22> no one knows why that simple application is freeezing my system?? lol
[12:37] <shray__> scifi, I dont mean on torrents
[12:37] <shray__> scifi, I mean when I do apt-get..
[12:37] <nickrud> twidget, after you've given the / partition about 10GB, give the rest to /home
[12:37] <id`> tom@laptom:~$ sudo apt-get install lighhtpd
[12:38] <id`> cant find it
[12:38] <id`> on breezy
[12:38] <baquero22> omg people trying to install ubu on fat32
[12:38] <twidget> nickrud, 10GB of an availble 155.5GB?!
[12:38] <baquero22> and i thought i had an stupid
[12:38] <baquero22> Q
[12:38] <mwe> id`: enable universe then sudo apt-get update then install it
[12:38] <nickrud> twidget, yeah, that's probably enough, unless you're running a huge website or database
[12:38] <echo> questions arent stupid unless you dont ask them
[12:38] <id`> mwe: i have
[12:38] <mwe> !info lighttpd
[12:39] <scifi> !ftp
[12:39] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: vsftpd, proftpd
[12:39] <twidget> I'm mean, I don't mean to sound rude or anything, it's just that I'd prefer to have the bulk of my free space available to both OSs.
[12:39] <baquero22> sooo its easy men
[12:39] <MrKubuntuUser> mwe:  I just tried booting the LiveCD with the extra option parport=0x378,7,3 but I still didn't have DMA after I modprobe'd lp
[12:39] <baquero22> three partitions
[12:39] <MrKubuntuUser> mwe:  any ideas?
[12:39] <twidget> I mean instead of I'm mean
[12:39] <mwe> id`: maybe it's only in dapper then.
[12:39] <ardchoille> Check out some of the themes I made:  http://www.gnomehelp.org/ardchoille/themes
[12:39] <baquero22> one ext3 another fat32 and anotherone ntfs
[12:39] <id`> mwe: ok
[12:39] <mwe> MrKubuntuUser: not really
[12:39] <baquero22> like that ur gonna be able to play
[12:39] <nickrud> twidget, then, say 10GB for / on ubuntu, 40 GB for /home, and the rest as a fat32? or something along those lines
[12:39] <Veronica> Quick question.. got a siguation.. got a siguation.. got a siguation.. got a siguation.. got a siguation where a way to have a directory?
[12:40] <baquero22> hey nickrud your complicated
[12:40] <twidget> that sounds good
[12:40] <slimz> does anyone know if there is any real benefit to building your programs from source in apt versus just installing them? other than the fact that the source migth be out before the build?
[12:40] <baquero22> split the disk in three parts... or in two...  ext3 and anotherone fat32
[12:40] <twidget> what should the fat32 point to?
[12:40] <id`> mwe: ill go get badger then
[12:40] <nickrud> baquero22, I've gone thru so many iterations of this exact question .... currently I run a 10gb fat32
[12:40] <twidget> or does that matter?
[12:40] <baquero22> or a third one on ntfs if u want to protect ur winxp from any ubuntu idiot move u make
[12:41] <echo> anyone got a wiki on 2 monitors on 1 video card?
[12:41] <delliott> Good evening all.
[12:41] <echo> hey
[12:41] <simosx> slimz, you would build from source for educational purposes, to learn the process. Other than that, get the package.
[12:41] <id`> mwe: i mean dapper
[12:41] <ompaul> !dapper
[12:41] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[12:41] <slimz> simosx : well if apt will be doing the building for me, then im really not learning, i thought it *maybe* would be better configured for my system, thanks
[12:42] <scifi> looking at screenshots of the partitioning wizard when u setup ubuntu, i can only see 2 erase options and an edit partiton table option, so how do u create a NEW partition on the same drive without erasing anything?
[12:42] <ordi> hi
[12:42] <MrKubuntuUser> mwe:  Do you know of any other settings that would affect the parallel port?
[12:42] <nickrud> baquero22, always recommend a /home partition, they'll thank you in the morning
[12:42] <nickrud> scifi, if there is no room for a new partition, you'll have to delete an existing one
[12:42] <twidget> nickrud, does it matter what that fat32 partition points to?
[12:43] <twidget> (Sorry if these come across as newbie questions, but I am, after all, a newbie.)
[12:43] <scifi> there will be plenty of room nickrud
[12:43] <simosx> slimz, apt has prebuild and pre-configured packages for your system. No need for compilation, so they install fast. Long time ago I did compilations and it was good experience. Now, it's only for special cases (unavailable package, etc).
[12:43] <MrKubuntuUser> mwe:  Also, do I need to have something plugged into the parallel port during boot-up for DMA to be enabled?
[12:43] <mwe> MrKubuntuUser: no. I suspect a bug but I don't know where. doesn't dmesg say anything useful?
[12:43] <nickrud> twidget, not really. I currently have it mounted as /home/fat, but I've used other mount points.
[12:44] <MrKubuntuUser> mwe:  [4294977.771000]  parport0: PC-style at 0x378 (0x778) [PCSPP,TRISTATE] 
[12:44] <MrKubuntuUser> mwe:  [4294977.853000]  lp0: using parport0 (polling).
[12:45] <mwe> MrKubuntuUser: that's good. nothing about dma?
[12:45] <skpl> can someone tell me what this error means? Closing Link: 0.0.0.0 (You match the pattern of a known trojan, please check your system with a cleaner from http://www.moosoft.com or Swat-It from http://www.lockdowncorp.com/bots/downloadswatit.html)
[12:45] <cablop> excuse me i was away so i don't know if somebody answered me
[12:45] <MrKubuntuUser> mwe:  Not for the parallel port.
[12:45] <mwe> skpl: where did you get that?
[12:45] <scifi> actually i cud just create a new partition myself with the western-digital tool, then install ubuntu on it?
[12:46] <skpl> mwe: trying to connect to dalnet
[12:46] <nickrud> MrKubuntuUser, my equiv from dmseg is [4294696.473000]  parport0: PC-style at 0x378, irq 7 [PCSPP,TRISTATE,EPP] 
[12:46] <cablop> ok, my question is, i need to edit a .sh file, but i don't know how, i need to place three instructions each one in each line
[12:46] <gimmulf> command to scan connected bluetoth devices?
[12:46] <mwe> MrKubuntuUser: how did you find out dma is disabled?
[12:46] <cablop> i need to place a character at the end of each line?
[12:47] <mwe> skpl: it probably means a) you have the trojan or b) dalnet is broken
[12:47] <skpl> mwe: i did not know lthere were torojans made for linux
[12:47] <MrKubuntuUser> mwe:  hardinfo.  Also, DMA is supposed to be listed in the system log for parport0.  Also also there was some file (can't remember what now) that had to do with parport0 that said -1
[12:48] <Althulas> anyone know if there is an official lightscribe cover for ubuntu cd's ?
[12:48] <mwe> skpl: they are rare. I'd guess b)
[12:48] <cablop> the three lines are:
[12:48] <cablop> "CLASSPATH=/opt/grinder/lib/grinder.jar
[12:48] <cablop> export CLASSPATH
[12:48] <cablop> java net.grinder.TCPSniffer"
[12:48] <cablop> but if i place them in that way systems report me error abour using export as a parameter of last line, but uding them directly on bashcommandline, they worked
[12:48] <MrKubuntuUser> nickrud:  EPP?  Hmm... maybe I should try setting my parallel port to EPP
[12:48] <skpl> mwe: could it have something to do with my identd?
[12:48] <MrKubuntuUser> nickrud:  and you have DMA enabled?
[12:48] <nickrud> MrKubuntuUser, according to hardinfo, yes
[12:48] <mwe> skpl: I think not. if so dalnet is really broken, complaining about trojans
[12:48] <cablop> ubotu tell me about editing .sh files
[12:48] <MrKubuntuUser> nickrud:  I haven't tried EPP yet... maybe that was my entire problem.  :D
[12:49] <cablop> ubotu tell me about sh
[12:49] <MrKubuntuUser> nickrud, mwe:  I'll be back later
[12:49] <Veronica> hi
[12:50] <mwe> cablop: /msg the bot please
[12:50] <cablop> hjelp me
[12:51] <skpl> what is ipp?
[12:51] <mwe> cablop: nano foobar.sh
[12:51] <nickrud> skpl, internet printing protocol
[12:51] <mwe> skpl: internet printing protocol IIRC
[12:51] <cablop> um?
[12:51] <brian__> can someone help me get ssh going? i have got openssh-server isntalled and know how to forward ports
[12:51] <gimmulf> command to scan connected bluetoth devices?
[12:51] <brian__> but
[12:52] <odat> how do i kill a process?
[12:52] <naxxtor> hcitool scan ?
[12:52] <Seantater> cablp: what do you want?
[12:52] <brian__> when i connect to ssh
[12:52] <mwe> odat: kill pid
[12:52] <Seantater> odat: use killall in a terminal
[12:52] <nickrud> odat, killall <process name>
[12:52] <Seantater> odat: format killay name_of_process
[12:52] <naxxtor> gimmulf, hcitool scan? or maybe hcitool dev?
[12:52] <cablop> i want to make a batch file like .bat or .cmd on dos but in my ubuntu
[12:52] <maerlin> hi
[12:52] <spajus> can ubuntu handle TV card hadrware?
[12:52] <brian__> ssh <username>@<ip> it just sets there. and does nothing
[12:52] <brian__> not even a new line
[12:52] <Seantater> odat: not killay, killall
[12:52] <cablop> i need to place three comand line instructions on it
[12:52] <brian__> i double checked everything
[12:52] <brian__> can someone help me?
[12:52] <mwe> odat: you need sudo for processes not owned by you
[12:52] <cablop> but command line reported me erros when doing
[12:53] <Seantater> cablop: that's a shell script here
[12:53] <cablop> if i suse the three comandline options by themselves they worked, but inside the .sh don't
[12:53] <Seantater> cablop: Paste them into a file
[12:53] <skpl> can someone tell me why my music skips when i play it in banshee but not in rhythymbox?
[12:53] <gimmulf> !bluetooth
[12:53] <ubotu> methinks bluetooth is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BluetoothSetup and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BluetoothRemote
[12:53] <Seantater> cablop: then prepend them with #! /bin/bash
[12:53] <jorge_> Necesito ayuda para instalar programas
[12:53] <brian__> can someone help me with ssh?
[12:54] <MystaMax> !proftpd
[12:54] <ubotu> MystaMax: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:54] <Seantater> cablop: then save it, and make it executable
[12:54] <nickrud> !info proftpd
[12:54] <ubotu> proftpd: (Versatile, virtual-hosting FTP daemon), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 1.2.10-22 (breezy), Packaged size: 347 kB, Installed size: 1044 kB
[12:54] <maerlin> couldnt find it in the wiki: how much harddisk does 5.10-default-installation need?
[12:54] <jorge_> Necesito ayda en espaol
[12:54] <cablop> ok i pasted them into  a file
[12:54] <MystaMax> nice, thanks nick
[12:54] <cablop> Seantater, what is prepend?
[12:54] <maerlin> mi harddisk has only 1,2 GB. i am not sure, if that is enough.
[12:54] <nickrud> maerlin, 1.8gb for a minimal install, you'll want about 5gb to play around in
[12:55] <brian__> ...
[12:55] <maerlin> nickrud: thank you a lot
[12:55] <tuyan> hi all, i have a headless pc here and i want to do a headless installation since i do not have any monitors.. can anyone guide me ?
[12:55] <cablop> ok i have the lines
[12:55] <cablop> "CLASSPATH=/opt/grinder/lib/grinder.jar
[12:55] <cablop> export CLASSPATH
[12:55] <cablop> java net.grinder.TCPSniffer" how to prepend them?
[12:55] <method|> anybody here have any experience with kdevelop?
[12:55] <Seantater> cablop: When you set the shell lines into the file, simply make an empty line at the top and sat #!/bin/bash in the empty line
[12:55] <skpl> can someone tell me why my music skips when i play it in banshee but not in rhythymbox?
[12:55] <naxxtor> skpl, because banshee is using a different decoder?
[12:56] <cablop> ok,  i'll try
[12:56] <skpl> naxxtor, how can i change the decoder it uses?
[12:56] <MystaMax> I'm looking to install Proftpd, and would like to provide mysql support later. Am I choosing just the regular proftpd or proftpd-mysql??
[12:56] <naxxtor> skpl, no idea - just an idea
[12:56] <Seantater> ubotu tell jorge_ about es
[12:57] <tag> how much effort is it to set up a vpn?
[12:57] <jerware> tag: it may be a bit time consuming.
[12:57] <eth0_no0b> can anyone help me with ssh?
[12:58] <tag> because I can tunnel into work overssh
[12:58] <mwe> eth0_no0b: elaborate
[12:58] <Seantater> eth0_no0b: what do you want help with concerning it
[12:58] <tag> but it's starting to become a hassle
[12:58] <skpl> can someone tell me how to change my decoder in banshee?
[12:58] <eth0_no0b> well
[12:58] <signature16> why does my proftpd say unable to determine ip address of server1.pacificx.net when i try to start it?
[12:58] <Seantater> eth0_no0b: keep talking
[12:58] <eth0_no0b> i have it all setup i apt-get openssh-server, i know how to forward ports on meh router
[12:58] <eth0_no0b> i forwared 22
[12:58] <jorge_> Aqu Jorge pidiendo ayuda para instalar el juego tibia en linux
[12:59] <eth0_no0b> and i
[12:59] <Seantater> eth0_no0b: open your web browser to 192.168.1.1
[12:59] <maerlin> good night
[12:59] <nickrud> !es
[12:59] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:59] <eth0_no0b> its 0.1
[12:59] <cablop> Seantater, it doesn't work :(
[12:59] <eth0_no0b> but ok
[12:59] <eth0_no0b> im in meh ro0uter
[12:59] <Seantater> cablop: pastebin me what you did
[12:59] <cablop> how to pastebin?
[12:59] <eth0_no0b> Seantater
[12:59] <nickrud> !pastebin
[12:59] <ubotu> from memory, pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[01:00] <eth0_no0b> anyways
[01:00] <naxxtor> i don't understand - why do i have this problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24876 when i'm using breezy? it doesn't make sense!
[01:00] <Seantater> eth0_no0b: there should be a forewarding section
[01:00] <eth0_no0b> i have everything needed for ssh server and stuff. ok. on the same computer, i "ssh <username>@<ip>" and it just sets there
[01:01] <eth0_no0b> Seantater, its virtual server
[01:01] <Jonte--> Hi, I'm having trouble with a wireless mouse in breezy, as it starts the mouse locks and moves up to the corner and can't be moved. It works fins when ubuntu is installed at first but after a few reboots this behavoir occurs.
[01:01] <Seantater> eth0_no0b: I use ssh-server too..
[01:01] <eth0_no0b> i already forwared port 22 to my assigned router ip.
[01:01] <skpl> can someone tell me how to change my decoder in banshee?
[01:01] <Seantater> eth0_no0b: Do you have firestarter or anything on
[01:01] <eth0_no0b> no
[01:01] <Seantater> eth0_no0b: it should ask for for a password
[01:01] <eth0_no0b> it doesnt ask for a pass
[01:02] <eth0_no0b> but just for troubleshooting purposes
[01:02] <Seantater> eth0_no0b: Check in /etc/ssh
[01:02] <eth0_no0b> Seantater i have been in etc ssh
[01:02] <Seantater> eth0_no0b: There may be setting prohibiting your access
[01:02] <eth0_no0b> i
[01:02] <eth0_no0b> um
[01:02] <eth0_no0b> how would i check/change that?
[01:02] <Seantater> eth0_no0b: I know little past that
[01:02] <eth0_no0b> under ssh_config
[01:02] <eth0_no0b> ?
[01:02] <Seantater> eth0_no0b: It works for me all the time
[01:02] <eth0_no0b> idk anything about hostkeys or anything
[01:02] <rOss^64> anyone using newest LIVECD have programs on step4 of installing to HDD from liveCD ?
[01:03] <rOss^64> programs = problems
[01:03] <Seantater> eth0_no0b: Hostkeays are pre-installed when openssh is installed
[01:03] <eth0_no0b> eh ok
[01:03] <nickrud> rOss^64, you should ask on #ubuntu+1 , that's the dapper channel
[01:03] <rOss^64> thanks
[01:03] <eth0_no0b> well this works "ssh <username>@<assigned router ip>"
[01:03] <Seantater> eth0_no0b: I'm stumped
[01:03] <eth0_no0b> idk why
[01:04] <eth0_no0b> i hate my router
[01:04] <Seantater> eth0_no0b: what does it say?
[01:04] <Seantater> eth0_no0b: It does not work here, AFAIK
[01:04] <eth0_no0b> asks for pass when i use router ip
[01:04] <naxxtor> i hate my usb bluetooth dongle thing :@
[01:04] <eth0_no0b> ?
[01:04] <eth0_no0b> AFAIK
[01:04] <eth0_no0b> ?
[01:04] <Seantater> eth0_no0b: try it
[01:04] <Seantater> eth0_no0b: what happens
[01:04] <eth0_no0b> huh?
[01:04] <skpl> can someone tell me how to change my decoder in banshee?
[01:04] <eth0_no0b> try what? what is AFAIK?
[01:05] <Seantater> AFAIK is As Far As I Know
[01:05] <Seantater> !AFAIK
[01:05] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Seantater
[01:05] <Seantater> ubotu: afaik is As Far As I Know
[01:05] <ubotu> okay, Seantater
[01:06] <eth0_no0b> i can ssh to my computer through router ip, but i cant through regular ip.
[01:06] <gimmulf> I have done the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BluetoothSkype guide now and i can find my bluetoooth headset and everything in konquer but i cant listen to any music in the headset and when i try thru xmms it just says that i should check that my soundcard is configured properly
[01:06] <eth0_no0b> souds like my router sucks
[01:07] <signature16> why does my proftpd say unable to determine ip address of server1.pacificx.net when i try to start it?
[01:07] <slimz> hi guys, i have a 5.1 channel audio setup with a soundblaster live, with 6 analog outputs to a reciever. whenever i play an audio of video file, and i raise or lower the master volume, it only lowers the volume of the front 2 channels, is there any way i can link the master volume to the center/sub/rear channels?
[01:08] <naxxtor> i have a bcm2035 bluetooth dongle and it won't load properly! and nobody has any idea what to do about it
[01:08] <MrKubuntuUser> If I want to manually load lp0 on a LiveCD, what's the propper way to do it?  I've been doing "modprobe lp", but it's not recognizing that my parallel port is EPP or anything
[01:08] <nickrud> signature16, possibly because you haven't set up the dns for server1?
[01:08] <naxxtor> i could go far as to say nobody really cares
[01:09] <naxxtor> i even made a thread about it: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=160348 and nobody has even read it!
[01:09] <cablop> Seantater, this is my pastebin of my problem http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12263
[01:09] <naxxtor> is my problem invisible or something?
[01:09] <cablop> i feel stupid trying to do a really easy task like this one
[01:09] <nickrud> signature16, ignore me, I was stupid for a second
[01:10] <jadaz87> hello all how do i recompile my kernel?
[01:11] <siimo> whats the real memory usage in top command?    VIRT  RES  SHR
[01:11] <cablop> ok, anybody could helpme about shis problem? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12263
[01:11] <mikebot> how can i get .wmv's to work>?
[01:11] <simosx> jadaz87, if you don't get a better answer, you can google for "ubuntu compile kernel" (without the quotes).
[01:11] <jadaz87> !restrictedformats
[01:11] <ubotu> I heard restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[01:11] <nickrud> jadaz87, don't. if you really want to, install kernel-package, and read the docs in /usr/share/doc/kernel-package
[01:12] <pr0-t31n> anybody here listening to my problem?
[01:13] <MojoWork> how do i get the default terminal to use fixed as the font?
[01:13] <pr0-t31n> google
[01:13] <mikebot> "WMV files encoded with DRM (Digital Rights Management) are not playable by the codecs"
[01:13] <mikebot> does that mean i can't play the,m?
[01:13] <echo> can anyonehelp me with twinview on a geforce 5200
[01:13] <MojoWork> gnome doesn't want to see the console fonts
[01:13] <echo> thanks
[01:13] <nickrud> mikebot, yes, some of them.
[01:13] <pr0-t31n> wmv stands for windows media video
[01:13] <pr0-t31n> i think
[01:13] <echo> ypur right
[01:13] <cablop> semms to be people is dead here
[01:13] <echo> your
[01:14] <jadaz87> nickrud do you know how to do this? Please either recompile your
[01:14] <jadaz87> kernel with "/usr/bin/gcc" version "4.0.2", or restart /usr/bin/vmware-config.plwith CC environment variable pointing to the "gcc" version "3.4.5".
[01:14] <simosx> MojoWork, gnome-terminal has an option to use the system Monospace font, or you can specify your own fixed-width font.
[01:14] <jadaz87> the CC environment variable?
[01:14] <Jonte--> Monospace is the best ever
[01:14] <MojoWork> simosx: yeah but "fixed" doesn't show up in the fonts
[01:14] <jmoncayo> i have a question, i thought aterm -tr -sh 60 wasnt working but i just realize it is darking the deafaul bg but not the one i have just changed
[01:14] <cablop> there's a mnual about editing .sh files?
[01:14] <simosx> jadaz87, for building the kernel, a common command is "apt-get install build-essential", so that it picks up all the compiler tools in one go.
[01:15] <siimo> nickrud, i thought you could ignore the warning and go ahead with install ?  or download older gcc like jadaz87 says
[01:15] <pr0-t31n> this will play
[01:15] <nickrud> jadaz87, yes, exactly the CC ev variable.   Try     export CC='gcc-3.4'  before your vmware module compile. You may need to do sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4 first
[01:15] <pr0-t31n> THIS WILL PLAY WMV AND WMA FILESS
[01:15] <scifi> will we be able to upgrade to dapper drake from breezy badger?
[01:15] <pr0-t31n> http://xinehq.de/index.php/homehttp://xinehq.de/index.php/home
[01:15] <pr0-t31n> http://xinehq.de/index.php/home
[01:15] <pr0-t31n> http://xinehq.de/index.php/home
[01:15] <simosx> MojoWork, I see. Is there a specific need to have font "fixed" in gnome-terminal
[01:15] <bill> jada trying to get nvidia working?
[01:15] <cablop> scifi, i think sure
[01:15] <tin_nqn> hello people
[01:15] <mikebot> but oi want to play wmv files in totem
[01:15] <MojoWork> yes, monospace sucks
[01:15] <pr0-t31n> oic
[01:15] <tin_nqn> I have a question about ftp command...
[01:15] <Apostle^> scifi: yes
[01:15] <siimo> monospace is C00L
[01:16] <simosx> nickrud, it's better to get the compiler with "apt-get install build-essential" (build-essential is a virtual package).
[01:16] <jadaz87> nickrud do :       export CC='gcc-3.4'
[01:16] <jadaz87> simosx that does not install 3.4
[01:16] <polpak> mikebot, most wmv files work fine. Just ones with DRM won't work
[01:16] <nickrud> jadaz87, I though you were talking about a complete kernel compile when I advised against.
[01:16] <scifi> kewl
[01:16] <mikebot> polpak, is there no way to make those ones work?
[01:16] <pr0-t31n> MIKE HERE
[01:16] <pr0-t31n> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-23454.html
[01:16] <simosx> MojoWork, "Monospace" is a virtual font. See /etc/fonts/fonts.conf, to see from which fonts it takes characters.
[01:16] <bill> where does /lib/modules/2.6.*/volatile come from?
[01:16] <nickrud> simosx, build essential gets you gcc-4.0, jadaz87 needs to install gcc-3.4 explicitly
[01:16] <jadaz87> nickrud oh ok haha no i whould not want to do that
[01:16] <jadaz87> nickrud i did
[01:17] <facugaich> tin_nqn, just ask
[01:17] <tin_nqn> how can I "force" mget (ftp command) to it don't ask me to confirm in each file?
[01:17] <simosx> nickrud, ahh, ok. thanks.
[01:17] <vega-_> i'm trying to apt-get -u dist-upgrade breezy -> dapper but the problem is i'm running out of disk space (E: You don't have enough free space in /var/cache/apt/archives/). Anyone know if it's safe to link /var/cache/apt/archives somewhere else?
[01:17] <gnomefreak> pr0-t31n: can you please not use caps
[01:17] <mikebot> pr0-t31n, thanks
[01:17] <pr0-t31n> sure
[01:17] <jadaz87> nickrud so do:               export CC='gcc-3.4'             before i running the vmware config?
[01:17] <pr0-t31n> and sure
[01:17] <nickrud> jadaz87, yes
[01:17] <polpak> pr0-t31n, that link won't help with DRM
[01:17] <jadaz87> ok
[01:17] <simosx> MojoWork, do you want to type English or another language in gnome-terminal? What's the problem with Monospace? (screenshot?).
[01:18] <pr0-t31n> i win an internet.
[01:18] <simosx> vega-_, yep, you can even link to your VFAT partition.
[01:18] <facugaich> tin_nqn, you mean 'wget'? or is 'mget' a command in an ftp client?
[01:18] <siimo> why doesnt ubuntu compile kernel with the GCC they default with
[01:18] <siimo> @#$%
[01:18] <pr0-t31n> u guys, linux is too complicated
[01:18] <pr0-t31n> but windows suck
[01:18] <pr0-t31n> s
[01:18] <jadaz87> nickrud are the kernel headers included in build-essentials?
[01:18] <Apostle^> no i isn't.
[01:18] <tin_nqn> mget in an ftp client
[01:18] <jadaz87> siimo THAT is what i want to know
[01:18] <Apostle^> jadaz87: no
[01:19] <nickrud> jadaz87, no, to get those, do sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[01:19] <vega-_> simosx: don't own a vfat partition.. but oh well, i guess it's worth a shot
[01:19] <siimo> oh well i always build my own kernel with the ck patchset with default GCC so no problems for me
[01:19] <cablop> help me
[01:19] <pr0-t31n> is ftp the same thing as i know it? a site u upload to and pple can download from
[01:19] <cablop> please
[01:19] <facugaich> ftp is a protocol
[01:19] <facugaich> like http
[01:19] <simosx> vega-_, wherever you have space you can link to. External USB harddisk, etc...
[01:20] <jadaz87> nickrud oh ok i will do that now
[01:20] <tin_nqn> yeah I know
[01:20] <cablop> i'll make the question as easyu as i can: i need to place two lines on a .sh file, i don't know how to do them, just copying them and pressing enter between them?
[01:20] <nickrud> simosx, you have no problems with the gcc-4.0 compiling the kernel (I don't know why I'm asking, I stopped compiling kernels a couple of years ago :)
[01:20] <pr0-t31n> what do u guys think off goatse coming off the interweb??
[01:20] <facugaich> I was telling pr0-tein
[01:20] <vega-_> simosx: i know.. just thought i'd ask if someone might have ran into trouble or something
[01:20] <cablop> if i do it in that way system reports me errors
[01:21] <gimmulf> when i start alsamixer i can only change volume for my bluetooth
[01:21] <tin_nqn> facugiach:  I must dowload a list of file from a hosting server to another... that I am connected by ssh. Here I use ftp command to connect to the first one (source of my files)
[01:21] <scifi> Cerveza: wine compatability layer also looks good
[01:21] <polpak> cablop, what errors?
[01:21] <tin_nqn> That's all ok.
[01:21] <nickrud> cablop, gedit <file> , and on the first line put #! /bin/bash . Add your two lines below that line. Close & save the file, then chmod +x <file>
[01:22] <jadaz87> !tell pr0-t31n about offtopic
[01:22] <simosx> nickrud, it's long since I compiled a kernel myself. Even for a kernel module, one can simply compile the module and install. For me, gcc 4.0.2 was ok to compile kernel modules.
[01:22] <pr0-t31n> chillax
[01:22] <pr0-t31n> what irc client are yall using???
[01:22] <simosx> xchat
[01:22] <tin_nqn> but I have move 6000 and more files... and mget command (into an ftp session) ask me every time if I want "dowload XXX.zzz file"
[01:23] <nickrud> simosx, the only problem with that is ubuntu uses 3.4 to compile the kernel. Any extra modules need to be compiled with 3.4 as well.
[01:23] <bill> irssi here
[01:23] <asdf25> is there a way to start X using a specified Xsession file?
[01:23] <jbroome> irssi also + screen == happiness :)
[01:23] <bill> nickrud yeah having that issue with the nvidia kernel
[01:23] <pr0-t31n> is bitchx any good?
[01:23] <NsOmNiAc> !ubotu enlightenment
[01:23] <ubotu> hmm... enlightenment is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79155
[01:23] <jmoncayo> how can i make fluxbox to set a wallpaper when i log in
[01:23] <gnomefreak> jbroome: that it does ;)
[01:23] <jadaz87> nickrud look at this What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[01:23] <jadaz87> kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include] 
[01:23] <jadaz87> The path "kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include] " is not an existing directory.
[01:23] <simosx> tin_nqn, if you type "prompt", it will turn off prompting. Using "ncftp" as an FTP client will do the job much better
[01:23] <jadaz87> nickrud i already installed the headers
[01:23] <jmoncayo> how can i make fluxbox to set a wallpaper when i log in
[01:23] <pr0-t31n> run windows and download cuteftp 7
[01:23] <bill> anyone know where /lib/modules/*/volatile comes from?
[01:24] <pr0-t31n> google
[01:24] <polpak> asdf25, you can change your ~/.xsession to get it to start with that one...
[01:24] <cablop> polpak, systems try to read next line as paramneter of first one
[01:24] <tin_nqn> prompt
[01:24] <tin_nqn> ok. I try it
[01:24] <tin_nqn> thanks
[01:24] <bill> mine has the wrong nvidia module and it comes back
[01:24] <polpak> cablop, can you pastebin your script?
[01:24] <pr0-t31n> ubuntu>redhat
[01:24] <asdf25> polpak: yeah i know, i'm trying to run a second X server on top of my main Xgl one
[01:25] <nickrud> jadaz87, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingVMWare maybe that has the info you need
[01:25] <asdf25> polpak: but that'll actually work
[01:25] <siimo> all this module driver stuff that needs the same kernel version etc is a bad design
[01:25] <jadaz87> nickrud man oh man thank you
[01:25] <MrKubuntuUser> nickrud:  I just tried EPP too... still doesn't recognize it properly
[01:25] <nickrud> siimo, that's one of the reason's I gave up kernel compiling :)
[01:25] <gimmulf> alsamixer is selecting my Bluetooth headset as device.. how do i switch to my soundcard?
[01:25] <cablop> my case is i need to set in a first line the CLASSPATH like
[01:25] <pr0-t31n> when i first installed ubuntu i though i wouldn't use it much so i put it on a 20 gig partition now i use it more and need more space what on earth should i do?
[01:25] <cablop> CLASSPATH=/app/pack.jar
[01:25] <cablop> after that export it
[01:25] <cablop> export CLASSPATH
[01:25] <cablop> no more, but if i copy that lines in the same .sh file systems said
[01:25] <polpak> siimo, so join the kernel-devel mailing list and fix it =)
[01:25] <cablop> ': not a valid identifier3: export: `CLASSPATH
[01:25] <CosmoDad> siimo: there is a reason why it's necessary, you just don't get it
[01:25] <cablop> excuse me, i think that line was shorter
[01:26] <gnomefreak> cablop: please use pastebin to [aste
[01:26] <MrKubuntuUser> nickrud:  I'm thinking maybe I just wasn't starting lp properly from the command line (the LiveCD apparently doesn't automatically start parallel support)
[01:26] <siimo> CosmoDad, yes i do get it....
[01:26] <siimo> but its unacceptable  and one of the reasons that venders are put off making drivers for their own hardware
[01:26] <CosmoDad> siimo: then why do you say that?
[01:26] <nickrud> MrKubuntuUser, I don't know what to say. Live CD, well, I tend to avoid questions about that since I haven't run one, ever.
[01:26] <polpak> cablop, well you could also just do export CLASSPATH=/app/pack.jar
[01:26] <jfk> sounds like u need "apt-get install build-essentials"
[01:27] <gnomefreak> build-essential
[01:27] <siimo> because you need to recompile driver/module for every new kernel even a 2.6.12.x patch
[01:27] <cablop> ok i'll try, how to coment a line in .sh files? using "#"??
[01:27] <scifi> pr0-t3in: can u not make another partition on the drive and allow ubuntu to access it?
[01:27] <gnomefreak> cablop: put a # infront of the line
[01:27] <nickrud> siimo, I thought there was supposed to be some mechanism to get around that now adays
[01:27] <MrKubuntuUser> nickrud:  OK... what's in your /etc/modules file?
[01:27] <CosmoDad> siimo: vendors don't publish drivers because they think they can make a fortune out of windows users
[01:28] <cablop> now the error is
[01:28] <nickrud> MrKubuntuUser, lp, psmouse & nvidia
[01:28] <jfk> accecpt correction by gnome-freak
[01:28] <gimmulf> alsamixer is selecting my Bluetooth headset as device.. how do i switch to my soundcard?
[01:28] <cablop> now the error is
[01:28] <cablop> : command not found line 2:
[01:28] <pr0-t31n> when i first installed ubuntu i though i wouldn't use it much so i put it on a 20 gig partition but know i use it so much i need more space what should i dooo???????????????????????????
[01:28] <siimo> CosmoDad, that may be true but the linux driver architecure is not great... just imagine what would be possible if all you needed was one driver for all 2.6 series kernels with no recompiles needed and it plugged in nicely with every 2.6 kernel
[01:28] <polpak> cablop, how are you running the file?
[01:28] <nickrud> pr0-t31n, buy another hd?
[01:28] <CosmoDad> pr0-t31n: backup what you got, then try enlarging the partition with, say, gparted
[01:28] <polpak> cablop, and more specifically, how are you editing it?
[01:28] <MrKubuntuUser> nickrud:  hmm... same as my HDD installation except for nvidia... do you know where kernel settings for lp and stuff would be stored (if there are any)?  I know sound stuff, for example, is in /etc/sound/...
[01:28] <cablop> like this "./file.sh"
[01:29] <cablop> withount the "
[01:29] <siimo> then closed source vendors wouldnt have the problem of keeping up with the kernel dev
[01:29] <gnomefreak> cablop: sh file.sh will do it also
[01:29] <pr0-t31n> how bout a partitionmagic?
[01:29] <CosmoDad> pr0-t31n: qtparted is like a good tool for that
[01:30] <M3M> Can anyone point me in the right direction towards setting up a LAN printer under ion3?
[01:30] <cablop> not sh ./file.sh doesn't work nor bash ./file.sh
[01:30] <pr0-t31n> nickrud ive got enough space but thats for windows
[01:30] <nickrud> MrKubuntuUser, dapper has changed how modules are handled, I'm still learning
[01:30] <polpak> cablop, how are you editing the file?
[01:30] <pr0-t31n> thx cosmodad
[01:30] <cablop> using nano
[01:30] <jadaz87> pr0-t31n are you going to use it as your main os?
[01:30] <cablop> nano file.sh
[01:30] <twidget> nickrud, thanks for the advice earlier
[01:30] <pr0-t31n> windows?
[01:30] <CosmoDad> siimo: there are rapid changes between kernel versions, not just between 2.6.12.x, but also between 2.6.8 and 2.6.14. You need a way to differentiate
[01:30] <jadaz87> pr0-t31n ubuntu?
[01:30] <pr0-t31n> i dont know
[01:30] <polpak> cablop, it'd be very helpful if you'd prefix your responses.. Makes it much easier to read
[01:30] <pr0-t31n> im wishy washy bout operating systems
[01:30] <nickrud> twidget, glad it helped. Partitioning is a matter of taste, as much as anything else
[01:31] <pr0-t31n> windows seems much easier
[01:31] <pr0-t31n> but everybody loves linux
[01:31] <cablop> and i have only this lines
[01:31] <cablop> export CLASSPATH=/SIMAT-MEN/grinder-2.8.6/lib/grinder.jar
[01:31] <cablop> java net.grinder.TCPSniffer -remoteHost 64.76.190.49 -remotePort 80 -httpPluginFilter > sniffer.log
[01:31] <polpak> pr0-t31n, it's not really easier. People just think it's easier because they have been using windows for 10 years. If you used linux for that long linux would be easy too
[01:31] <cablop> polpak, soprry, i dfo it by now
[01:31] <gnomefreak> pr0-t31n: a better channel for your topic is #ubuntu-offtopic since its not a ubuntu related support issue
[01:32] <pr0-t31n> people are asking me what is my main os
[01:32] <f00li5h> polpak: true, but doing harder things is easier by comparison
[01:32] <siimo> yes but they could still have just one interface to hardware that doesnt need to be recompiled every time, google it a lot of people think this is a major flaw of the kernel that is coming in the way of hardware support by vendors  and desktop acceptance
[01:32] <pr0-t31n> what should i do
[01:32] <scifi> pr0-t3in:the question is, which do YOU prefer?
[01:32] <polpak> cablop, you need the shebang
[01:32] <pr0-t31n> i want to say ubuntu
[01:32] <polpak> cablop, and you should use pastebin
[01:32] <jfk> >pr0 - well said that person!!
[01:32] <MrKubuntuUser> nickrud:  OK.  I'll search some more on Google, but I haven't come up with much...
[01:32] <polpak> cablop, on the very first line of the file put #!/bin/bash
[01:32] <cablop> polpak what's sehbang?
[01:32] <f00li5h> say, i was wondering if anyone can tell me how to turn processor stepping off
[01:32] <scifi> pr0-t3in: well then increase ubuntus partition with gparted
[01:32] <MrKubuntuUser> nickrud:  Thanks again for your help
[01:32] <ompaul> pr0-t31n, to do #ubuntu-offtopic for chat, or ask a specific help question this is not a chat room - thanks
[01:33] <nickrud> MrKubuntuUser, luck
[01:33] <f00li5h> cablop: #! /pat/to/interpreter
[01:33] <pr0-t31n> k
[01:33] <CosmoDad> siimo: the driver API hasn't changed much for 2.6.8... there's a major difference between 2.4 and 2.6, but not within a major branch
[01:33] <ompaul> pr0-t31n, its a help channel
[01:33] <majd> Hi, anyone know of a dock launcher...sorta like the one that comes with gdesklets?
[01:33] <polpak> f00li5h, no space
[01:33] <cablop> how can i found the path to my interpreter?
[01:33] <f00li5h> polpak: you can have a space,
[01:33] <CosmoDad> siimo: prob is drivers rely on different components within the kernel that *do* change
[01:33] <f00li5h> polpak: and some older unix systems have a 3 character shebang
[01:34] <polpak> cablop, type which bash
[01:34] <slavik> f00li5h: that is quite f00li5h :P
[01:34] <f00li5h> slavik: *sigh*
[01:34] <CosmoDad> siimo: like wireless extensions, or v4l vs. v4l2.. has nothing to do with the driver model
[01:34] <NsOmNiAc> !ubotu enlightenment
[01:34] <ubotu> somebody said enlightenment was http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79155
[01:34] <simosx> cablop, "env python"?
[01:34] <nickrud> CosmoDad, and that is the issue, maybe 2.8 will have stable releases, not releases that require a bcollins to keep it functional
[01:34] <f00li5h> simosx: yeah, you can do that too
[01:35] <simosx> "siimo" is gone.
[01:35] <Anon8756> demo
[01:35] <cablop> i begin to think using .sh files where very difficult
[01:35] <polpak> cablop, it's not really
[01:35] <cablop> * are instead of where
[01:35] <f00li5h> cablop: nah, you just need someone to answer the simple questions, so you don't get stuck on them for months
[01:36] <CosmoDad> nickrud: so what do you suggest: freezing all development within a release?
[01:36] <simosx> cablop, I had a look at your pastebin text. You have "#!/bin/bash" more than once in your file. It should be once, at the start.
[01:36] <polpak> cablop, just put #!/bin/bash on the first line of the file, then you can put your commands in fine
[01:36] <nickrud> CosmoDad, we're a bit off topic, and if you've ever watched the kernel mail list, you know what I'm talking about.
[01:36] <cablop> polpak but i only  need to execute those two lines, in windows i only need to place them into a file and put the extension .cmd or .bat, no more, here it dfoesn't work, maybe i need to use a different file extension?
[01:37] <f00li5h> or if it's an ash script you can just have a single : on the first line
[01:37] <nekostar> !sound
[01:37] <ubotu> methinks sound is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[01:37] <polpak> cablop, linux doesn't use extentions
[01:37] <polpak> cablop, it uses the shebang
[01:37] <f00li5h> polpak: shebangs and chmoddage
[01:37] <f00li5h> cablop: you chmod +x'ed it?
[01:37] <polpak> cablop, the #!/bin/bash means " run the commands in this file using /bin/bash"
[01:39] <cablop> yes i chemoded the file
[01:40] <simonpca> Bonjour tout le monde!
[01:40] <polpak> !fr
[01:40] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:40] <LathropWells> Where do i add this command to run at boot up?  " hdparm -c1 -d1 /dev/cdrom0"
[01:40] <f00li5h> LathropWells: init scripts
[01:40] <echo> !twinview
[01:40] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, echo
[01:40] <f00li5h> LathropWells: when do you want it to run?
[01:41] <cablop> ok i understand that but now
[01:41] <polpak> LathropWells, you can put it in /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh if you want it to run at boot
[01:41] <cablop> it tryies to exectute those lines but cannot fount my file
[01:41] <echo> anyone have a geforce fx 5200 runnin 2 monitors
[01:41] <LathropWells> You guys are great. - Thank You.
[01:41] <f00li5h> cablop: you got full paths to the files you refer to in the scripts?
[01:41] <fRz[Fu] > hi there
[01:41] <cablop> yes
[01:41] <DShepherd> is there an irc channel for rhythm box?
[01:42] <jadaz87> does anyone know if i do these commands if they will be permanent?
[01:42] <jadaz87> $sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/tmp/swap bs=1M count=3000
[01:42] <jadaz87> $sudo mkswap /tmp/swap
[01:42] <jadaz87> $sudo swapon /tmp/swap
[01:42] <f00li5h> DShepherd: i'd assume so, randomly join things that sound like that
[01:42] <polpak> cablop, what is the error it gives?
[01:42] <polpak> jadaz87, pastebin pls
[01:42] <fRz[Fu] > i've juste downloaded nvidia drivers and i'd like to know wich package are necessary for ubuntu 5.10 to install the drivers ?
[01:42] <cablop> now it says me ": there's no such file or directoryer-2.8.6/lib/grinder.jar'"
[01:42] <f00li5h> jadaz87: nope
[01:42] <f00li5h> jadaz87: i'd say not, since /tmp will be eaten through each restart (i think)
[01:43] <cablop> but executing same line it works
[01:43] <jadaz87> f00li5h so it is not permanent? oh ok thanks :-)
[01:43] <f00li5h> jadaz87: don't take my word alone though
[01:43] <DShepherd> f00li5h: remember the name of the channel. #rhythmbox doesnt work
[01:43] <Quinthius> jadams: even if /tmp isn't cleared on reboot, that file won't automatically be used for swap unless you add it in /etc/fstab or enable it manually again
[01:43] <f00li5h> DShepherd: nope, i use cplay
[01:43] <cablop> polpak, excuse me i said now it says me ": No existe el fichero o el directorioer-2.8.6/lib/grinder.jar'" but using that line in the comandline it works
[01:43] <Quinthius> err jadaz87
[01:44] <DShepherd> f00li5h: ok
[01:44] <polpak> cablop, something looks wrong with that path..
[01:45] <polpak> cablop, shouldn't it be /SIMAT-MEN/grinder-2.8.6/lib/grinder.jar
[01:45] <jadaz87> Quinthius yes?
[01:45] <cablop> yes, it's that path
[01:45] <facugaich> polpak, the error msg is overlapping it
[01:45] <polpak> cablop, try just typing ls -al /SIMAT-MEN/grinder-2.8.6/lib/grinder.jar
[01:45] <Quinthius> jadaz87: see my message to jadams, was meant for you
[01:46] <cablop> polpak, yes and the file is here
[01:46] <jadaz87> Quinthius yes i see it thanks
[01:46] <twitch> what is a good app to use to convert ntfs to fat32 on a usb hard drive? i tried gparted but it shows a lock by it or if there is a ms dos disk with usb support that would be a last resort
[01:46] <jadaz87> does anyone know if breezy uses the same filesystem as hoary on the live cd
[01:46] <polpak> cablop, so you have a directory in your root dir called SIMAT-MEN ?
[01:46] <cablop> polpak, yes
[01:46] <polpak> cablop, why not /home or /opt or something?
[01:47] <cablop> polpak, and  everyone has access to this directory
[01:47] <polpak> cablop, so paste the output of the command ls -al /SIMAT-MEN/grinder-2.8.6/lib/grinder.jar
[01:47] <twitch> what is a good app to use to convert ntfs to fat32 on a usb hard drive? i tried gparted but it shows a lock by it or if there is a ms dos disk with usb support that would be a last resort
[01:47] <cablop> polpak, because i was using this application in one winfdows machine with same path and i don't want to spand time fixing paths between OS
[01:47] <polpak> twitch, you mean formatting the drive to fat32?
[01:47] <Quinthius> twitch: CAN you even convert ntfs to fat32?
[01:48] <nickrud> twitch, I don't think that you can do that
[01:48] <twitch> oops i didnt mean convert i meant reformat
[01:48] <nickrud> twitch, maybe some $$$ app can
[01:48] <cablop> polpak, "-rwxrwxrwx  1 sakura sakura 521024 2002-11-03 16:38 /SIMAT-MEN/grinder-2.8.6/lib/grinder.jar"
[01:48] <jadaz87> nickrud do you know if breezy uses the same filesystem as hoary on the live cd?
[01:48] <polpak> cablop, pastebin your sh file pls
[01:49] <twitch> when i try using gparted it shows a lock by it and it wont let me format it
[01:49] <nickrud> jadaz87, I've never run a livecd. No clue
[01:49] <cablop> jadaz87, i hear not
[01:49] <cablop> ok
[01:49] <cablop> !pastebin
[01:49] <ubotu> from memory, pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[01:49] <polpak> jadaz87, you mean same fs type?
[01:49] <Quinthius> twitch: is the drive currently mounted?
[01:49] <twitch> yea
[01:49] <polpak> twitch, unmount it
[01:49] <Quinthius> twitch: unmount it and try again
[01:49] <scifi> when i partition to do the dual-boot setup, what file-system format will it use (ntfs etc) ?
[01:49] <twitch> ok
[01:50] <polpak> scifi, win xp needs ntfs
[01:50] <bill> stranve
[01:50] <bill> strange
[01:50] <bill> if I install the nvidia driver, it works for one boot
[01:50] <twitch> how do i remount it
[01:50] <bill> then fails after reboot
[01:50] <MrKubuntuUser> I just found the instructions to insert the following into /etc/modules.conf:  "options parport_pc io=0x378,0x278 irq=7,auto"
[01:50] <odat> anyone ever get Lirc working?
[01:50] <nickrud> bill, you mean you do a modprobe nvidia & it works for that boot session?
[01:51] <MrKubuntuUser> Where does that go in Dapper?  modules.conf doesn't exist
[01:51] <skpl> can someone tell me what the startup dir is in ubuntu?
[01:51] <bill> nickrud no even stranger, if I boot nvidia.ko is loaded, but it doesn't work
[01:51] <twitch> how do i remout my us hd
[01:51] <polpak> skpl, define "start up dir"
[01:51] <twitch> *remount
[01:51] <bill> but if I install it again it does (for that boot)
[01:51] <polpak> twitch, is it in fstab?
[01:51] <cablop> oplpak, this is my sh file http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12265
[01:51] <nickrud> MrKubuntuUser, I think that goes in /etc/modutils/ (like I said, it's all changed for dapper, I'm relearning)
[01:51] <Quinthius> twitch: after formatting it? or just how it is already?
[01:51] <cablop> polpak, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12265
[01:51] <twitch> i just unmounted it
[01:51] <bill> I'd use the default nvidia driver but I require 8xxx for my video card
[01:52] <twitch> how do i remount. i havent formatted it yet
[01:52] <MrKubuntuUser> nickrud:  OK, I'll try that.  Is /etc/modules.conf for the 2.4 kernel or something?
[01:52] <nickrud> bill, add the word nvidia at the end of /etc/modules , that will reload the nvidia module automatically at each boot
[01:52] <skpl> polpak, i have a program that came with a script, it told me to put the script in my startup dir, which it listed as possibly being /etc/init.d/rcx.d or /sbin/etc/init.d/rcx.d
[01:52] <nickrud> MrKubuntuUser, no, just for older versions of the 2.6 kernel. It's moving fast.
[01:52] <skpl> polpak, Where the 'X' in rcX.d is the value obtained by running the
[01:52] <skpl> following command
[01:52] <skpl> 	grep initdefault /etc/inittab | awk -F: '{print $2}'
[01:52] <bill> nickrud the problem isn't that the module isn't loading...it's just something else is fixed by the nvidia installer
[01:52] <facugaich> twitch, I think you can use 'umount' to mount removable devices
[01:52] <Quinthius> twitch: if it's in your fstab, you can just do something like mount /dev/hda1 or whatever the drive is
[01:52] <polpak> cablop, this is how it should look http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12266
[01:53] <Quinthius> twitch: or, mount /path/to/mount/point ... look in /etc/fstab to make sure
[01:53] <nickrud> bill, try that, that's the one thing I remember doing to get nvidia support for each boot.
[01:53] <polpak> skpl, put the script in /etc/init.d
[01:53] <bill> nickrud I just booted, and lsmod shows it
[01:53] <bill> but I'll try it
[01:53] <skpl> polpak ok
[01:53] <s|k> what's the apt-get for build dependencies?
[01:53] <cablop> polpak, i'll try
[01:54] <nickrud> bill, then nm, you're right I guess about something else
[01:54] <s|k> the syntax?
[01:54] <NsOmNiAc> I want to get rid of everything KDE on this system if I remeber right there is some command that does that
[01:54] <rOss^64> anything special i have to do to make my wireless work with ubuntu. it worked on liveCD but does not show up on the installed version
[01:54] <bill> nickrud ah, I was afraid of that
[01:54] <nickrud> NsOmNiAc, sudo apt-get remove libqt3-mt
[01:54] <tonyyarusso> Can someone explain why when mounted /windows shows up as an icon on the desktop (only after changing fstab as instructed in !ntfs to be user-accessible) when none of my other partitions do?  I'd rather only removable media show as an icon.  /etc/fstab is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12219.
[01:54] <Quinthius> tonyyarusso: are you mounting it under /media/ ?
[01:55] <tonyyarusso> Quinthius: No, under /.
[01:55] <skpl> polpak, does it matter what i name the script?
[01:55] <polpak> skpl, nope
[01:55] <Quinthius> tonyyarusso: hmm, does the fstab entry have the "user" flag? i seem to recall something about that causing stuff to appear on the desktop
[01:55] <[C] hris> What would cause gnome not to run this from a panel icon if it is fact the correct location? "wine /home/chris/.wine/drive_c/World of Warcraft/WoW.exe -opengl"
[01:56] <cablop> polpak, it cpontinues telling me that there's no such file or directory :(
[01:56] <tonyyarusso> Quinthius: Yes, let me see if removing that changes anything.
[01:56] <polpak> cablop, show me the whole error pls
[01:56] <skpl> polpak, i do not think it worked, i logged out and back in and it is not running
[01:56] <polpak> skpl, it only works on boot
[01:57] <polpak> skpl, but you need to add a symlink also
[01:57] <scifi> [C] hris:i'd love to know if uve used wine to run counter-strike on ur system at all?, apparently it supports steam based games
[01:57] <cablop> ok
[01:57] <skpl> polpak, can you tell me how to do that?
[01:57] <tonyyarusso> Quinthius: That was it.  Thank you.  Been wondering about that for a few days and nobody knew.
[01:57] <skpl> polpak, what is a symlink?
[01:57] <polpak> skpl, cd /etc/rc2.d
[01:57] <cablop> !pastebin
[01:57] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[01:58] <skpl> polpak, ok
[01:58] <cablop> polpak, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12267
[01:58] <polpak> tonyyarusso, only problem with not having the user flag.. Means users can't mount/unmount it only root
[01:59] <Quinthius> tonyyarusso: hehe. there might also be some option for nautilus in the system tools -> config editor stuff, to change what kind of drives it shows, but i forget..
[01:59] <tonyyarusso> Quinthius: I think it just has show or not show, but I'll look.
[01:59] <polpak> cablop, can you pastebin the script again.. ?
[01:59] <Quinthius> tonyyarusso: ahhh that might be it
[01:59] <tonyyarusso> polpak: Well, that's nothing new, none of my other things are mountable except by root.
[01:59] <polpak> tonyyarusso, true enough
[01:59] <nickrud> Quinthius, tonyyarusso the user flag is the only thing that works for the desktop showing, irrc
[01:59] <Quinthius> nickrud: ahh okie
[02:00] <cablop> polpak, i'll pastebin the file and the output
[02:00] <polpak> skpl, ls -al in the directory
[02:00] <[C] hris> Scifi no i just run wow which works as of today
[02:00] <facugaich> whats that IRC client lots of you use? irssci?
[02:00] <Quinthius> xchat
[02:00] <polpak> skpl, you should see several links to scripts in /etc/init.d
[02:00] <CokeNCode> xchat
[02:00] <nickrud> xchat
[02:00] <CokeNCode> or bitchx
[02:00] <facugaich> no, the other one
[02:00] <MrKubuntuUser> nickrud:  Sorry, Firefox crashed.
[02:00] <polpak> skpl the order listed here determines the order in which the scripts are run
[02:00] <Quinthius> irssi
[02:00] <facugaich> that one
[02:00] <facugaich> thanks
[02:00] <skpl> oh, ok
[02:00] <nickrud> MrKubuntuUser, what's new :)
[02:00] <skpl> polpak, what else?
[02:01] <CokeNCode> my ubuntu install keeps breaking ...
[02:01] <CokeNCode> i'm running an xp and ubuntu dual boot
[02:01] <CokeNCode> and every now and again, by x server gets fubar'd
[02:01] <polpak> skpl, to create a new link to your script use ln -s /etc/init.d/scriptname S66scriptname   where the 66 number just determines where the file will be in the list, and scriptname is the name of the script in /etc/init.d
[02:02] <CokeNCode> and i have to reinstall Ubuntu to get it back
[02:02] <tuyan> ok, is serial console working on ubuntu ?
[02:02] <CokeNCode> anyone know what could be causing this ?
[02:02] <polpak> !tell CokeNCode about enter
[02:02] <polpak> CokeNCode, define fubar'd
[02:02] <skpl> polpak, what if the script does not exist in the dir, i should copy it over?
[02:02] <polpak> CokeNCode, what erros does it give
[02:02] <tonyyarusso> CokeNCode: Do you have any more information, errors, logs, etc?
[02:02] <CokeNCode> CokeNCode, it says modeprobe error, and that it can't find quite a few files
[02:02] <polpak> skpl, doesn't exist in /etc/init.d ?
[02:03] <cablop> polpak, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12268
[02:03] <echo> can someone help me configure my xorg to do twinview
[02:03] <tonyyarusso> CokeNCode: And does this happen randomly, or after you or the system has done something significant?
[02:03] <skpl> polpak, it is in /etc/init.d/rc2.d
[02:03] <CokeNCode> i know this isn't much info, i was hoping that someone else had possibly encountered this same problem. I'm thinking it may be the hard drive i'm using (a separate one for Ubuntu that I salvaged from an old pc) that's bad
[02:03] <tonyyarusso> Anyone know of a GUI interface to configuring runlevels?
[02:04] <skpl> polpak, ok, now it is there
[02:04] <nickrud> tonyyarusso, bum
[02:04] <CokeNCode> tonyyarusso, it actually seems pretty random, it happens when I reboot tho, that much I've noticed
[02:04] <MrKubuntuUser> nickrud:  I just tired doing insmod parport and it returned "can't read 'parport':  No such file or directory'.  Am I using the command improperly
[02:04] <CokeNCode> sorry, when I boot up
[02:04] <tonyyarusso> CokeNCode: Possible...  You might be will off though to save logs the next time it happens, and pastebin them.
[02:04] <tonyyarusso> nickrud: Does that let me do ones other than 2?
[02:05] <nickrud> tonyyarusso, no clue :) rcconf is a text gui, works nicely
[02:05] <tonyyarusso> nickrud: I'll check that out too.
[02:05] <Storkme> how can i force dpkg to use i386 arch instead of amd64?
[02:05] <CokeNCode> tonyyarusso, ok, thanks, last time it happened, i came on using bitchx, i'd lost the xserver but, it crashed into console, and i was able to run bitchx and ask for help, hpoefully if it happens again, i'll be able to come back in and give more info
[02:05] <nickrud> MrKubuntuUser, you probably would prefer to use modprobe
[02:05] <polpak> cablop, you said this command works from the command line?
[02:06] <MrKubuntuUser> nickrud:  Can I specify stuff like the irq number using modprobe?
[02:06] <Storkme> how can i force dpkg to use i386 arch instead of amd64?
[02:06] <tonyyarusso> CokeNCode: Yeah, I run irssi on a terminal so I can get support if X dies.
[02:06] <skpl> polpak, i created the symbolic link, is that all i have to do?
[02:06] <nickrud> MrKubuntuUser, you pinned me. Dapper, right?
[02:06] <polpak> skpl, should be
[02:06] <MrKubuntuUser> nickrud:  Yeah, Kubuntu Flight 6
[02:06] <skpl> polpak, but i have to restart to test it right?
[02:07] <polpak> skpl, you can test it with sudo /etc/rc2.d/S66filename restart
[02:07] <MrKubuntuUser> nickrud: Sorry :D
[02:07] <polpak> skpl, assuming the link is called S66filename
[02:07] <skpl> polpak, thank you
[02:07] <Storkme> how can i force dpkg to use i386 arch instead of amd64?
[02:07] <skpl> i think i get it
[02:07] <nahoj-> hmm... almost every time i run azureus, amaroK and x-chat my system hang up...
[02:07] <skpl> though i do not understand why we need symbolic links
[02:07] <ompaul> CokeNCode, that looks like it might be hardware - please reseat the video card, and ram launch the memtester before you go to bed and see what comes back
[02:07] <cablop> polpak, yes it works fine
[02:07] <polpak> skpl, cause the file should be in /etc/init.d  but we want to reference from many places
[02:08] <CokeNCode> on to my other problem, after i update the kernel, i get 4 different boot options for ubuntu, this is a bit much isnt it, is there any reason to keep the old kernel boot option around?
[02:08] <cablop> polpak, really fine
[02:08] <echo> someone help me with this my boss is gonna stab me
[02:08] <echo> lol
[02:08] <polpak> skpl, so we link rathr than copy incase we want to change it, we don't have to change them all
[02:08] <CosmoDad> nahoj-: start them from console and see if standard output helps to figure out what the prob si
[02:08] <CosmoDad> nahoj-: is
[02:08] <WillyTell> hello everybody!
[02:08] <polpak> echo, ?
[02:08] <nickrud> MrKubuntuUser, I really need to upgrade my skills on how modules are handled in dapper. I have some ideas, but none worth your wasting time on
[02:08] <CokeNCode> ompaul, could it be as a result of me installing nvidea drivers, when i have an onboard soundcard ?
[02:08] <skpl> polpak, do i have to make the script executable?
[02:08] <echo> twinview on a 5200
[02:08] <polpak> cablop, what is the output of pwd ?
[02:08] <skpl> polpak, i have yet to do that
[02:08] <polpak> skpl, yes
[02:08] <echo> polpak, twinview on a 5200, i got it workin... thanks for that before
[02:09] <nahoj-> CosmoDad, thx... *checking out*
[02:09] <cablop> polpak, it's /SIMAT-MEN/plantilla/rec
[02:09] <skpl> polpak, chmod +x right?
[02:09] <polpak> cablop, can you pastebin the output of ls ?
[02:09] <polpak> skpl, yeah
[02:09] <ompaul> CokeNCode, it might be the drivers - save /etc/X11/xorg.conf to one side and use VESA and if it works without falling over then consider changing the driver or card
[02:09] <tonyyarusso> nickrud: How do I choose runlevel with that tool?  rcconf #?
[02:09] <cablop> polpak, i go
[02:10] <CokeNCode> ompaul, ok ... thanks
[02:10] <nickrud> tonyyarusso, you don't, you set the default run level in /etc/inittab
[02:10] <polpak> echo, so what are you needing help with?
[02:10] <ompaul> CokeNCode, the audio should not be part of the problem
[02:10] <skpl> polpak, for some reason the restart command does not work, it tells me to use start or tsop
[02:10] <polpak> skpl, ok, just try start
[02:10] <CokeNCode> right, i meant to say video card
[02:10] <tonyyarusso> nickrud: But what if I want to have mulitiple runlevels configured differently?
[02:10] <WillyTell> XGL ???
[02:10] <CokeNCode> i have an onboard video card
[02:10] <ompaul> CokeNCode, if disabled it has no influence
[02:10] <skpl> polpak, it worked
[02:10] <WillyTell> someone tried the new XGL on Ubuntu???
[02:10] <echo> polpak, tryin to find something that shows someone elses xorg file that has a 5200
[02:11] <nickrud> MrKubuntuUser, you add a new file to /etc/modprobe.d/   and in that file have a line options parport <options>, see alsa-base in that dir for an example
[02:11] <polpak> WillyTell, on dapper yes
[02:11] <CokeNCode> ompaul, it's not disabled, that's what i use ... :/
[02:11] <cablop> polpak, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12269
[02:11] <ompaul> WillyTell, #ubuntu+1 would be a better channel for that conversation
[02:11] <polpak> echo, pretty much all the nvidia configs are the same
[02:11] <WillyTell> thank you very much!
[02:11] <MrKubuntuUser> nickrud:  OK, I'll look now
[02:11] <echo> polpak
[02:11] <ompaul> CokeNCode, ahh I thought you had two cards there for a moment - just try that and there ya go
[02:11] <echo> polpak, ok ty... ill search on google
[02:11] <nickrud> tonyyarusso, you can set up each run level as you chose, and either telinit <runlevel> or change the default in /etc/inittab or during the boot, edit the grub menu line
[02:12] <CokeNCode> ok, but i can't reseat an onboard card ... i think when i ran Automatix, i installed some nvidea drivers that may be causing the problem
[02:12] <tonyyarusso> nickrud: Right, but the "set up each run level as you chose" part is what I'm wondering about.
[02:12] <nickrud> MrKubuntuUser, that stuff has changed 3 times in this major kernel release, it's fun keeping up <not>
[02:13] <CokeNCode> either that, or the fact that it has to switch from one resolution to another when loading up xserver. I fixed that now, so I'll see if that helps
[02:13] <cablop> polpak?
[02:13] <ompaul> !automatix
[02:13] <ubotu> well, automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[02:13] <nickrud> tonyyarusso, just what are you attempting to do? I might be able to give better <more specific> advice
[02:13] <ompaul> CokeNCode, ^^
[02:13] <polpak> echo http://www.ublug.org/ubuntu/twinview/twinview-howto-breezy.html
[02:14] <scifi> is it gnome 2.14 with breezy badger?
[02:14] <polpak> cablop, you're doing something wrong.. I can't tell what it is though
[02:14] <CokeNCode> ompaul, ok, what would you suggest instead of automatix ?
[02:14] <nickrud> scifi, 2.12 in breezy, 2.14 in dapper
[02:14] <ompaul> scifi, no 2.12 that will be in the next release
[02:14] <echo> polpat... thanks again
[02:14] <tonyyarusso> nickrud: Well, my first thing is simple, just removing gdm from runlevel 3, but I'd rather learn the general stuff just for the knowledge.  (I think I can do the specific part already, but hey.)
[02:14] <polpak> echo, it's polpak
[02:14] <ompaul> CokeNCode,  documentation or #easyubuntu
[02:14] <echo> oh god i did it again
[02:14] <scifi> can i upgrade to 2.14 from within breezy badger?
[02:14] <polpak> echo you know xchat does tab completion right?
[02:15] <echo> im like talkin to customers and typin at the same time
[02:15] <nickrud> tonyyarusso, ok, first, runlevel 2 is the default run level. Remove gdm from that one.
[02:15] <MrKubuntuUser> nickrud:  oof... so the kernel just uses options from a file with the same name as the module in /etc/modprobe.d whenever a module is loaded?
[02:15] <echo> i have no clue what that is
[02:15] <polpak> echo type pol then hit tab
[02:15] <echo> lol
[02:15] <CokeNCode> ompaul, so you think automatix may be the source of my problem?
[02:15] <echo> wow
[02:15] <echo> thanks
[02:15] <polpak> echo also
[02:15] <polpak> echo bash has tab completion
[02:15] <tonyyarusso> nickrud: No, I want it by default, but would like to be able to create a semi-recovery option in grub for if X is borking on me or I just want to boot fast, but I don't want to full recovery mode.
[02:15] <nickrud> MrKubuntuUser, I believe so, anyway it makes sense to name it the same as the module. You are currently a guinea pig :)
[02:16] <CokeNCode> i installed it a good few days ago, and i've shutdown and booted up fine several times since then
[02:16] <echo> whats bash?
[02:16] <polpak> echo the shell you get in a terminal
[02:16] <echo> oooh
[02:16] <echo> yeah
[02:16] <echo> damnit
[02:16] <tonyyarusso> CokeNCode: Ooh.  Yeah, automatix is icky.
[02:16] <polpak> echo, so for example typing /u<tab>/loc<tab> will give you /usr/local
[02:16] <echo> sorry i was usin windoze for the last 6 months... before that kubuntu//// im not that good at the linux thing yet
[02:16] <LathropWells> born again sh - ell
[02:16] <ompaul> CokeNCode, without actually having the machine here I could not say, however I have seen a lot of people come through this channel with broken boxes as a result of it, two choices one reinstall or ask the author for help
[02:17] <CokeNCode> tonyyarusso, lol, ok. I'll keep that in mind.
[02:17] <nickrud> tonyyarusso, ok, then remove it from 3, then add another grub stanza and add     3   to the end of the kernel invocation for that stanza
[02:17] <MrKubuntuUser> nickrud:  haha, OK.  I'll try it out in a virtual machine now
[02:17] <echo> thats cool
[02:17] <CokeNCode> thanks ompaul
[02:17] <echo> thanks for that
[02:17] <polpak> echo =)
[02:17] <tonyyarusso> nickrud: Right.  Just wondering if there's an easy way to mess with stuff generally.
[02:17] <nickrud> MrKubuntuUser, yes, I remember you saying you have a virtual machine :) I'm looking forward to having vmware or the free equiv soon
[02:17] <moonwatcher> hello
[02:18] <moonwatcher> can i ask a question?
[02:18] <CraiZE> moonwatcher, yes :) you are supposed to
[02:18] <ompaul>     #ubuntu-il   
[02:18] <jmoncayo> how can i start the sound so i can use mpg321?
[02:18] <MrKubuntuUser> nickrud:  I'm actually using Virtual PC for this... it runs Ubuntu very nicely, even though Microsoft says they don't support Linux
[02:18] <polpak> tonyyarusso, if you really want to learn how the boot stuff works, take a look at "Linux from Scratch" they explain a lot of it there
[02:18] <ompaul> moonwatcher, ask away
[02:18] <nickrud> tonyyarusso, what you're doing is right down in the guts of a gnu/linux system, easy is relative :)
[02:18] <CokeNCode> wow, this channel is nice, other places, folks would've jumped all over him for asking to ask
[02:18] <jmoncayo> how can i start the sound so i can use mpg321?
[02:19] <tonyyarusso> polpak: I'll check it out.
[02:19] <polpak> CokeNCode, depends on our mood
[02:19] <ompaul> CokeNCode, we jump on people for noticing :-)
[02:19] <tonyyarusso> nickrud: Hehe, true.
[02:19] <moonwatcher> i have an IBM T42, tried the live cd on it and the 2200BG card seems to be working but getting an IPv6 adress, which naturally doesnt work
[02:19] <nickrud> ohzie, I cannot recommend linux from scratch too highly. I learned more there than anywhere else
[02:19] <cablop> polpak, thanks a lot, i changed the way i was launching the java, very strange i changed the .sh content to "java -cp /SIMAT-MEN/grinder-2.8.6/lib/grinder.jar net.grinder.TCPSniffer > sniffer.log"... just this line, and worked, very strange
[02:19] <moonwatcher> or so it seemed in ifconfig
[02:19] <simosx> jmoncayo, ideally there is no service to start to get mpg321 to work. If sound is working, it should all be ok.
[02:19] <Veronica> tonyyarusso, lol, ok. I'll keep that are you attempting to do? I might be able to give better <more specific> advice
[02:19] <polpak> tonyyarusso, it really gives you a good idea of what's going on from boot to login, etc. and how things are layed out
[02:19] <tonyyarusso> nickrud: Thing is, that rcconf tool looked great.  But you'd think it could handle multiple runlevels.
[02:19] <nickrud> ohzie, sorry, that was supposed to be 'oh'
[02:19] <jmoncayo> esd
[02:20] <polpak> cablop, very odd
[02:20] <word> Hi....I'm having some trouble with mysql-server it can't find the mysqld.sock file...and well..i can't either. >< I tried reinstalling and it's the same.
[02:20] <tonyyarusso> Veronica: Find a nice interface for separately configuring runlevels 2-5.
[02:20] <moonwatcher> anyone seen my question is all this?
[02:20] <defendguin> i still cant get network manager to work in dapper flight 6
[02:21] <CraiZE> moonwatcher, you gotta be patient, i dont have that problem :)
[02:21] <CraiZE> so you gotta wait til someone can help you
[02:21] <toxic_> Why does the following return "expecting unary command"? I don't see what's wrong with it ..      if [ `echo "${MSG}" | grep pam_unix` != "" ] ; then
[02:21] <simosx> defendguin, me neither. I had a USB stick and it cannot get the WEP key properly..
[02:21] <CraiZE> moonwatcher, or you can write it into the forum :)
[02:21] <polpak> moonlite, it's wireless network?
[02:21] <polpak> moonwatcher, erm
[02:21] <moonwatcher> yes
[02:21] <polpak> moonwatcher, ^^
[02:21] <moonwatcher> i checked ifconfig
[02:21] <nickrud> tonyyarusso, sysv-rc-conf is better, sorry. I hadn't looked at either recently, and got them mixed up
[02:21] <moonwatcher> the interface is up
[02:21] <moonwatcher> but for somereason it gets an ipv6 address
[02:22] <defendguin> simosx: the applet crashes on startup for me
[02:22] <moonwatcher> which is not at all good
[02:22] <cablop> polpak, one question more, there's a way to say in .sh that i'm ending a line? meybe using ";" ??
[02:22] <polpak> moonwatcher, if you go to system->administration->networking you should be able to config your wep key etc
[02:22] <tonyyarusso> nickrud: apt-getting now.
[02:22] <polpak> cablop, ; or a newline will mark the end of a command
[02:22] <moonwatcher> wpa
[02:22] <moonwatcher> and i did that
[02:23] <simosx> defendguin, I see. I have a clean Flight 6 install and it was ok in the respect for me.
[02:23] <moonwatcher> i think it even authenticated
[02:23] <Der_Richter> Anyone know of a good IDE for C/C++ development? I've been hassling with Dev-CPP for a year or so... and it just won't feel right. Thinking about trying something else for Linux-development. At work i've always used Visual Studio in a lot of different versions over the years... So, something close to the feel of VC6?
[02:23] <moonwatcher> but i need to have an ipv4 address
[02:23] <Der_Richter> But open source
[02:23] <polpak> moonwatcher, did you set it to DHCP?
[02:23] <bill> moon eclipse
[02:23] <moonwatcher> ham...
[02:23] <moonwatcher> i think so
[02:23] <polpak> Der_Richter, eclipse is one
[02:24] <toxic_> Why is it that data copied from linux to an usb-harddrive cannot be read by windows ? It's not ext3 on the drive or anything.
[02:24] <moonwatcher> i use a static dhcp/mac mapping on an opnwrt box
[02:24] <jinho326> is there a queue that I have to wait in to ask a question?
[02:24] <simosx> moonwatcher, can you paste the IPv6 IP address line from ifconfig?
[02:24] <simonpca> a+, j'y vais ;-)
[02:24] <Der_Richter> polpak: I've heard about that at work... But as far as i know, that's what the Java-guys downstairs use :)
[02:24] <Veronica> born again sh - ell
[02:24] <simosx> jinho326, no queue. just fire your question away :)
[02:24] <ompaul> toxic_, stupid windows boxes can need drivers to talk to usb sticks
[02:24] <mlowe> toxic_, did you rember to unmount the usb drive ?
[02:25] <moonwatcher> not now... i am running windows now, will boot the live cd again later and check again, anything special i should look for?
[02:25] <polpak> Der_Richter, or Anjuta is another one
[02:25] <moonwatcher> maybe some dumps i need to save so i can show someone here
[02:25] <toxic_> ompaul, Well, it works fine to write/read data on usb stick written by windows, but moving it to my linux comp makes the linux data unreadable
[02:25] <tarvid> any recommendations on point of sale for ubuntu
[02:25] <toxic_> mlowe, eh, why ?
[02:26] <jinho326> I unstalled ubuntu on my comp, sda1 being a sata drive, and hdb being an old IDE drive i found in the closet, the installation seemed to go fine and after installing GRUB the system restarted, but when I rebooted, the second HD isnt there and GRUB doesnt show up
[02:26] <simosx> moonwatcher, I think that the IPv6 address is not an address that came from the DHCP server. It's just that the DHCP did not work, me  thinks. You can always disable IPv6 on OpenWRT, isn't it?
[02:26] <jinho326> XP runs
[02:26] <jinho326> and thats it
[02:26] <mlowe> toxic_, to flush the write buffer, can just pull out the stick
[02:26] <polpak> Der_Richter, I generally just use a good text editor (Jedit, gedit, etc) all the ide stuff can be managed through makefiles etc
[02:26] <mlowe> s/can/can't/
[02:26] <cablop> Der_Richter, try Eclipse with the CDT package, or try Lylix, that's Borland Builder C++ for linux, or try QT
[02:26] <nekostar> oi!@!
[02:26] <nekostar> ive got alsa in
[02:26] <polpak> !ipv6
[02:26] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[02:27] <jinho326> I was trying to dual boot XP and ubuntu but now my second IDE hd doesnt appear in windows, but it does appear in the bios....
[02:27] <nekostar> i added modules to /etc/modules
[02:27] <nickrud> rflmao, makefiles & easy making :)
[02:27] <toxic_> mlowe, I've tried attaching it, removing it, copying data to it etc, windows still can't read any data not written by windows to it
[02:27] <cablop> Der_Richter, sorry, is Kylix not Lylix
[02:27] <moonwatcher> simosx: i dont think i even have the ipv6 stack installed on the opnwrt box
[02:27] <nekostar> and xmms etc claim there is sound but i hear NOTHING @@@@
[02:27] <simosx> tarvid, you need to use the pessulus tool to lock down the system. See http://www.gnome.org/start/2.14/notes/en/rnadmins.html
[02:27] <Der_Richter> polpak: That's what i've come to as well... Since Dev-CPP isn't to my liking. The problem is... I have to share my work with a dev-group... So i have to invent SOME standard :)
[02:27] <moonwatcher> simosx: i think your first guess was better, dhcp didnt work properly
[02:27] <MrKubuntuUser> jinho326:  is your second drive your Ubuntu drive?
[02:27] <tonyyarusso> nickrud: Aaah, here we go!  This one's wonderful.
[02:27] <simosx> moonwatcher, so it's a DHCP failure there..
[02:27] <mlowe> toxic_, before you reboot try "umount /dev/sd?" !!
[02:27] <jinho326> yeah
[02:27] <nickrud> tonyyarusso, yeah I totally mixed the two
[02:28] <toxic_> mlowe, yeah I'll give that a try
[02:28] <polpak> Der_Richter, just use a beautifier to enforce a standard
[02:28] <s|k> how do I find a file from the shell?
[02:28] <tarvid> simosx, why?
[02:28] <MrKubuntuUser> jinho326: is there some reason you need Windows to see your Ubuntu drive?  Does it not show up in Disk Manager?
[02:28] <mileskeaton> Installing Ubuntu onto a new laptop this weekend.  Since it's just for me, thinking of doing Dapper Drake Flight 6.  But... is it easy to upgrade as Dapper Drake becomes stable/release?
[02:28] <moonwatcher> simosx: if i get an ifconfig dump will it help to find out whats wrong? or do i need anything else?
[02:28] <cablop> polpak, are you working on linux with DEV-cpp? mmm, just try KDevelop
[02:28] <nekostar> anyone?
[02:28] <mileskeaton> Does apt-get do all upgrades needed or will I need to re-install?
[02:28] <cablop> sorry polpak
[02:28] <nickrud> mileskeaton, absolutely easy, just use sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:28] <nekostar> the channels are not muted
[02:29] <simosx> tarvid, for a POS system, you need the system to be simplified with just a couple of this to be able to do, isn't it?
[02:29] <MrKubuntuUser> jinho326:  XP can't read Ubuntu's file system, so those partitions won't get drive lettters, but the drive should show up in Disk Manager
[02:29] <mileskeaton> nikrud: cool. thanks.
[02:29] <nekostar> and the cords are plugged in
[02:29] <ompaul> nekostar, sure your plugged in? turned on, turned up and not muted (type gnome-volume-control in a terminal) and work from there
[02:29] <nekostar> and the volume is up
[02:29] <nekostar> yeah
[02:29] <jinho326> hmm
[02:29] <cablop> Der_Richter, try KDevelop instead of Dev-cpp
[02:29] <nekostar> ompaul, went through the usual :/
[02:29] <jinho326> Disk manager being like when I open My Computer?
[02:29] <nekostar> and i had it working before this last install..
[02:29] <Der_Richter> KDevelop... Part of KDE, isn't it? I'm using IceWM mostly... So... I have to install KDE completely to use KDevelop?
[02:30] <MrKubuntuUser> jinho326:  Nope, right-click My Computer, click Manage, and then click Disk Management
[02:30] <simosx> moonwatcher, the "ifconfig" dump will help rule out the IPv6 part. Did you mention it was an IPW2200 wireless card?
[02:30] <jinho326> k one second
[02:30] <polpak> Der_Richter, no, you can use KDE apps w/o using kde, but you will need a lot of the shared libs
[02:30] <cablop> Der_Richter, not necessary, just the libs needed for KDevelop to work
[02:30] <MrKubuntuUser> jinho326:  Please put the nick of the person you're talking to at the beginning of your messages so that they're easier to find.  :-)
[02:30] <moonwatcher> simosx: 2200BG, yes
[02:30] <tarvid> simosx, good point, I hadn't gotten thatn far, i've been looking at bananapos
[02:31] <scifi> can gpart be used to setup several multi-distro boot-ups?
[02:31] <tonyyarusso> Anyone used bootchart on Breezy?  I can't seem to figure out how to make it go.
[02:31] <polpak> scifi, sure
[02:31] <jinho326> MrKubuntuUser sorry, Im new to IRC....but yeah it does show in Device Manager
[02:31] <cablop> Der_Richter, i used Eclipse a long time, and i like it over other IDEs
[02:31] <simosx> moonwatcher, I would recommend to check ubuntuforums, Dapper section for your wireless card. I think I heard other reports on this in Flight 6. www.ubuntuforums.org, section Dapper.
[02:31] <moonwatcher> simosx: its a T42
[02:32] <jinho326> MrKubuntuUser however I cant load ubuntu itself
[02:32] <MrKubuntuUser> jinho326:  OK, then everything is as it should be.  You'll have to use GRUB to boot Windows and Ubuntu, as Windows can't see Ubuntu's partition
[02:32] <MrKubuntuUser> jinho326:  Did you install XP before or after installing Ubuntu?
[02:32] <scifi> polpak: thx, may try kubuntu alongside ubuntu
[02:32] <cablop> ok, thanks a lot
[02:32] <jinho326> MrKubuntuUser how do I do that? :-)
[02:32] <polpak> scifi, oh
[02:32] <cablop> i must go now
[02:32] <moonwatcher> simosx: whats dapper?
[02:32] <jinho326> MrKubuntuUser XP before
[02:32] <polpak> scifi, no need for that
[02:32] <cablop> polpak, thanks a lot
[02:32] <polpak> cablop, sure, see you
[02:32] <Der_Richter> Ok... Might try KDevelop... Since there seems to be a lot of knowledge here i might take the time to ask another thing... At work, i mostly develop software for embedded small systems, such as DVD-players or multimedia TV's... The thinmg is... Do you think QT will run on let's say a small M68k-system with only 48 Mb. RAM? Is it possible to run QT-framework?
[02:32] <cablop> Der_Richter, just give Eclipse+CDT a try, ;)
[02:32] <polpak> scifi, you can install them both in the same place
[02:32] <jinho326> MrKubuntuUser what I did was I just added the old HD to the computer and installed ubuntu on top of it
[02:33] <simosx> moonwatcher, "dapper" is the development version of Ubuntu, to be released in June, 1st.
[02:33] <jinho326> MrKubuntuUser so I wouldnt have to reformat
[02:33] <scifi> really? thought they were seperate distros
[02:33] <MrKubuntuUser> jinho326:  Hmm... the installer should have installed GRUB for you
[02:33] <MrKubuntuUser> jinho326:  Did you install Ubuntu before or after moving the drive to your current machine>
[02:33] <celerex> Der_Richter: don't think you'd want to..
[02:33] <jinho326> MrKubuntuUser yeah thats what's weird, it said it did, but then it never showed again
[02:33] <ompaul> !dapper
[02:33] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[02:33] <jinho326> MrKubuntuUser after
[02:33] <polpak> Der_Richter, I wouldn't know. You'd probably be better off asking on the qt mailing list
[02:34] <Veronica> Der_Richter, not necessary, just the libs needed for KDevelop to work
[02:34] <jinho326> MrKubuntuUser: I made sure that the comp registered it, then I installed ubuntu onto it
[02:34] <polpak> scifi, no, you can just sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop and you'll get everything you'd have with kubuntu basically
[02:34] <scifi> polpak: so i can install KDE and switch between kde and gnome?
[02:34] <celerex> specially if you're not developing anything needs a gui.. would probably, if you needed a framework, would suggest java or MONO
[02:34] <Veronica> nickrud: Thing is, that rcconf tool looked great.  But you'd think it could handle multiple runlevel as you'd the volume is up
[02:35] <polpak> scifi, yeah, if you install kubuntu-desktop you can choose kde or gnome when you log in by clicking the "Session" button on the login screen
[02:35] <jinho326> MrKubuntuUser: does the fact that Im using a sata for windows, and an IDE for ubuntu matter?
[02:35] <Der_Richter> Is there other frameworks known to work on small systems? We're a little under the whip to make a transition from XP Media Center to open source. Which i personally think is good... if i can find useful libs to work with.
[02:35] <MrKubuntuUser> jinho326:  I don't know about that
[02:35] <polpak> Der_Richter, one sec
[02:35] <wil_> Der_Richter  Do you have experience with MythTV?
[02:35] <scifi> polpak: thats sweet, liking this linux lark more every minute :)
[02:35] <celerex> Der_Richter: .. it would depend on the device i guess. Java would be the fastest implementation..
[02:35] <polpak> scifi, welcome aboard =)
[02:35] <Veronica> tonyyarusso, it really
[02:35] <jinho326> MrKubuntuUser: is there a way to reinstall grub?
[02:36] <polpak> celerex, not nessicaraly
[02:36] <Der_Richter> wil_: Yup. I've seen a couple of units running it.
[02:36] <Oompa> Can anyone recommend a nice parition resizer that doesn't have a habit of corrupting NTFS formated hard drives?
[02:36] <CraiZE> Oompa, in windows, partition magic
[02:37] <Der_Richter> celerex: M68020 Core, 48 Mb. RAM and no HDD. It's a DVD-player :) The system has to fit in RAM...
[02:37] <Oompa> CraiZE: Uh.. is it free :D
[02:37] <CraiZE> Oompa,  there is a free trial i suppose
[02:37] <wil_> Der Richter Just downloaded it and am lost -- said I needed to configure Myth backend
[02:37] <MrKubuntuUser> jinho326:  Yes, there is.  I think you could do that by booting an Ubuntu LiveCD
[02:37] <tonyyarusso> CraiZE: Ick.  PM broke stuff for me.
[02:37] <MrKubuntuUser> jinho326:  However, I think your Ubuntu HD would have to be the boot drive
[02:38] <CraiZE> tonyyarusso, not for me
[02:38] <CraiZE> ;)
[02:38] <jinho326> MrKubuntuUser: so change the order of hd boot?
[02:38] <MrKubuntuUser> jinho326:  I'm not positive about that, though
[02:38] <celerex> I would have thought in that situation you'd write a custom C firmware..
[02:38] <jadaz87> hello everyone i was wondering if this command is permanent or whould have to do it everytime i restart the computer:  export LC_ALL=C
[02:38] <polpak> Der_Richter, http://www.linuxdevices.com/articles/AT9202043619.html
[02:38] <MrKubuntuUser> jinho326:  Yeah, GRUB might actually be installed on your other hard drive and your computer is ignoring it
[02:38] <MrKubuntuUser> jinho326:  so try changing the boot order
[02:38] <jinho326> MrKubuntuUser: I see, I'll try that
[02:39] <Der_Richter> wil_: /usr/bin/mythtv-setup
[02:39] <jinho326> MrKubuntuUser: thanks for the help
[02:39] <polpak> wil_, you using ubuntu?
[02:39] <MrKubuntuUser> jinho326:  No problem.  Hope it works! :-)
[02:39] <jinho326> MrKubuntuUser: you'll be sure to hear from me soon if it doesnt help :-)
[02:39] <MrKubuntuUser> jinho326:  OK.  :D
[02:39] <wil_> Der Richter thanks  yes I am in Ubuntu now
[02:40] <polpak> wil_, http://www.abarbaccia.com
[02:40] <yipe> what was the thing you add to the end of the ls command to allow you to scroll through long directories?
[02:40] <polpak> yipe,  | less
[02:40] <yipe> thank you:)
[02:40] <polpak> yipe, that works with any command
[02:40] <LathropWells> jadaz , -  I added hdparm -d1 -c1 /dev/cdrom to /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh - would that work for your command?
[02:40] <Der_Richter> celerex: It's a combo thingie... According to the ppl we work for... They wan't it to be able to burn cd/dvd, access WWW, use messenger and IRC + play DVD/SVCD. So we found it easier to try for a complete OS however slim.
[02:41] <doug_> hey everyone
[02:41] <jadaz87> LathropWells what? lol
[02:41] <tonyyarusso> polpak: Any way to do that so that you can keep it in columns across the whole screen than making a long one column list?
[02:41] <doug_> im having some really annoying problems
[02:41] <yipe> cool
[02:41] <polpak> tonyyarusso, yeah, one sec
[02:41] <Marineboy> Hey
[02:41] <jinho326> MrKubuntuUser: it works! thanks so much
[02:41] <Marineboy> How safe do you think it is to run the Live version for a couple days?
[02:41] <MrKubuntuUser> nickrud:  That options file seems to work!  I can't test it for DMA yet, but I used it to not specify an IRQ in Virtual PC and it seems to have worked
[02:42] <LathropWells> jadaz87,  - it would be run at boot up. maybe... - lol
[02:42] <MrKubuntuUser> jinho326:  Hey, great!  No problem!
[02:42] <nekostar> eh
[02:42] <jadaz87> LathropWells so it is just a temporary command?
[02:42] <nekostar> forwhoever was here
[02:42] <nekostar> i figured out my sound problem >_<>
[02:42] <doug_> someone help me? When i do "Sudo modprobe ndiswrapper" i get the Invalid argument error. Any help?
[02:42] <tonyyarusso> Marineboy: I've heard of it being done anyway.
[02:42] <Marineboy> Because I've tryed to install it several times, and even redownloaded it and and reburned it and it still wont work.
[02:42] <nekostar> i had the switches all checked ... should have left exchange dac unchecked...
[02:42] <nekostar> :/
[02:42] <LathropWells> jadaz87, - nvm - lol
[02:42] <MrKubuntuUser> jinho326:  Are you in Ubuntu or XP now?  :D
[02:42] <Marineboy> So I got the CD's being sent to me off the website.
[02:43] <USERNAME> Linux irc demo from palm!
[02:43] <polpak> tonyyarusso, ls -x | less
[02:43] <Stormx2> how do I restart sound?
[02:43] <lampshade> Anyone here use F-Spot?  Why does it fail so hard?  In other words, is there an option to refresh a directory and have the thumbnails of the files that have been deleted auto removed much like picasa does?
[02:43] <tonyyarusso> polpak: Cool.  Okay, one more: Can I retain the file-type coloring?
[02:44] <polpak> tonyyarusso, yeah
[02:44] <Der_Richter> Ok. I will use Eclipse. And by the looks of their website microLinux can run on 68020. Fab. Now i'm in business. Thanks, by the way.
[02:44] <Datax> demo
[02:45] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Der_Richter: Are you doing work for the $100 laptop project, by any chance? :D
[02:45] <Joetheodd> How can I join a Windows networking workgroup and get my hostname (deadmeat) recongnized by other Windows machines?
[02:45] <Joetheodd> For ICS port forwarding, if it means anything..
[02:45] <polpak> tonyyarusso,  ls --color -x | less -r
[02:46] <Der_Richter> PuMpErNiCkLe: Nope. "The ultimate DVD/home entertainment machine" according to the demand-list. If u see the ad, get one. Keep me on the payroll :)
[02:46] <tonyyarusso> polpak: Beautiful.  Thanks.
[02:46] <lampshade> Joetheodd, Samba will let you connect to workgroups beautifully, but I don't know anything about ICS in particular.  I just use samba for file sharing between win and linux machines
[02:46] <polpak> tonyyarusso, man pages are your friend =)
[02:47] <tonyyarusso> polpak: Yeah, wasn't sure which one of them to even look for that in though.
[02:47] <matt_> Anyone in Alabama?
[02:47] <gasoline> hi, I can't seem to figure out this problem but when i try to install the base packages, it says an error , unable to install initrd tools, any ideas?
[02:47] <CokeNCode> hmm, why can't i apt-get install azureus anymore ?
[02:47] <polpak> tonyyarusso, well to get ls to output the color codes you need the man page for ls
[02:47] <stevemcq> Hi guys! Is anyone having problems with jack and the latest kernel?
[02:47] <Noside> hi everybody! is there a way to configure your bandwith??
[02:47] <Joetheodd> lampshade: The package "samba" itself?
[02:47] <gasoline> any ideas anyone?
[02:48] <polpak> tonyyarusso, which will tell you to use --color and -x to get the right outpu
[02:48] <polpak> tonyyarusso, but less will escape the color codes by default so you have to look at the less man page to see how to stop it from escaping the control characters (-r)
[02:48] <stevemcq> It was working fine up until about a week ago, last time I tried it. I could record with jack & ardour up to 96,000 Hz.
[02:48] <tonyyarusso> polpak: Got it.  Wasn't sure since ls by itself gives color by default, but not in less.
[02:49] <stevemcq> Something this week broke it. Now if I try anything over 48,000 Hz, I keep getting xruns (buffer over/underruns) :-(
[02:49] <polpak> tonyyarusso, that's because you have the proper environment variables set. Programs can tell the difference between outputting to a terminal and outputing to a pipe
[02:49] <Noside>  is there a way to configure your network bandwith?
[02:49] <tonyyarusso> polpak: Ooh.
[02:50] <polpak> tonyyarusso, so ls knows if it's outputing to a terminal to use columns and colors, but when outputing to a file (or a pipe) it behaves differently
[02:50] <Steil> does anyone want to buy a nice rug made by children in some factory in the middle east, it's about 30 years old
[02:50] <tonyyarusso> polpak: Okay, that makes sense.  I think I've got it now.
[02:50] <polpak> tonyyarusso, cause you wouldn't want all those colors mucking up your syntax if you were doing ls | xargs rm
[02:51] <Noside> so does anyone knows??
[02:51] <Noside>  is there a way to configure your network bandwith?
[02:51] <rabe> hullo, i g followed a LOT of guides (for ex. https://wiki.ubuntulinux.org/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI) and still, my ATI drivers are not installed properly, instead, it uses "MESA GLX Indirect", I don't have any 3d acceleration!?
[02:51] <polpak> tonyyarusso, so you explicitly tell it to use columns and colors because you know that ultimately the output will be to the terminal even if it's not (directly from ls)
[02:52] <polpak> rabe, what video card do you have?
[02:52] <rabe> ati radeon 9800XT
[02:52] <polpak> rabe, drat, sorry I have to run. someone else should be able help though
[02:52] <rabe> ok, have a nice evening
[02:53] <rabe> anyone?
[02:53] <VideoToaster> nickrud:  This better?  (MrKubuntuUser)
[02:53] <nickrud> Veronica, I was gone for a bit, did you see the bit about sysv-rc-conf?
[02:53] <Veronica> lampshade: The package "samba" itself?
[02:54] <lampshade> Veronica, , ummm not sure in this case usually for fileshaing yeah you just need samba, but I'm not sure what you need for ICS.
[02:54] <Veronica> polpak: so try changing Ubuntu's file system, so those partitions won't sure since it's just the drive lettters, but now.
[02:54] <nickrud> VideoToaster, I was just looking for you. I saw that you had success with the options in the modprobe.d dir, any more info?
[02:54] <VideoToaster> jinho326:  Everything running OK with the dual-boot setup?
[02:54] <s|k> what's the make clean command?
[02:55] <shrewduser> can APT install things from CVS alla emerge?
[02:55] <VideoToaster> nickrud:  I can't try out DMA yet, but assuming it pays attention to the DMA specification in modprobe.d, I just might have my problem fixed
[02:55] <nickrud> shrewduser, no, no such luck in general.
[02:55] <shrewduser> damn...
[02:55] <PuMpErNiCkLe> s|k: I cleans up after the 'make' command... gets rid of temp files, .o files, stuff like that.
[02:55] <PuMpErNiCkLe> It
[02:56] <nickrud> VideoToaster, cool (not least that my first look at the change in module handling wasn't totally out to lunch)
[02:57] <nickrud> shrewduser, however, a number of people use checkinstall to do the final installation of a cvs checkout as a deb
[02:57] <rabe> I followed a LOT of guides (for ex. https://wiki.ubuntulinux.org/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI) and still, my ATI drivers are not installed properly, instead, it uses "MESA GLX Indirect", I don't have any 3d acceleration!?
[02:57] <darx> hi guys
[02:57] <darx> need help with java install
[02:57] <shrewduser> ta nickrus
[02:57] <shrewduser> ta nickrud ***
[02:57] <slavik> darx: what's the problem?
[02:57] <arrick> shrewduser, did you mean rustynic?
[02:57] <slavik> darx: did you follow Sun's instructions on the manual install??
[02:57] <darx> i get the following error
[02:58] <VideoToaster> nickrud:  Yeah, thanks for telling me about that!  I tried specifying a DMA value in the virtual machine, but Kubuntu ignored it... I don't think Virtual PC supports DMA
[02:58] <darx> darx@darx:~/Desktop$ sudo apt-get install fakeroot jave-package java-common
[02:58] <darx> Reading package lists... Done
[02:58] <darx> Building dependency tree... Done
[02:58] <darx> E: Couldn't find package jave-package
[02:58] <darx> i was following the wiki
[02:58] <slavik> darx: first off, use pastebin please
[02:58] <darx> what is that i'm a complete noob
[02:58] <mauper> darx: second: jave sound like it should be java ;)
[02:58] <slavik> second, you mispelled java in 'jave-package'
[02:58] <Veronica> nickrud: Aaah, here we go!  This one's wonderful.
[02:58] <Veronica> i was following the wiki
[02:59] <darx> sorry
[02:59] <darx> i'm a windoze zombie
[02:59] <Noside> lol
[02:59] <mauper> Any chances that sun might allow packaging java for ubuntu ? (like they did for bsd ?)
[02:59] <nickrud> VideoToaster, Virtual PC, if I knew you were using that I'd've handled you with tongs ;P
[02:59] <VideoToaster> nickrud:  I'm sorry!  That's all I've got!
[03:00] <Veronica> ompaul, so you think automatix may be the source of my problem?
[03:00] <Veronica> Der_Richter: don't the whip to work on small kubuntu-desktop and the whip to open source. Which i personally think is good... if i can find useful libs to open source. Which i personally think is good... if i can just sudo apt-get everythink is good... if i can i start think you'd have with.
[03:00] <nickrud> VideoToaster, lol,
[03:00] <p03t1c> does the next release of ubuntu come out next month?
[03:00] <nickrud> p03t1c, june 1
[03:00] <darx> problem solved i guess
[03:00] <darx> he he he
[03:00] <VideoToaster> nickrud:  Better than waiting to try everything on the real computer... I tried VMware player and it installed all kinds of extra network stuff that I didn't like
[03:01] <mandywilhelm> hello, i have a problem with my mozilla, i made a dist-upgrade and since then i cannot see a thing displayed in the mozilla browser, other than dashes and the google symbol
[03:01] <VideoToaster> nickrud:  If you find a VMware Player file for Ubuntu, you could use that... that's free
[03:01] <rabe> I followed a LOT of guides (for ex. https://wiki.ubuntulinux.org/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI) and still, my ATI drivers are not installed properly, instead, it uses "MESA GLX Indirect", I don't have any 3d acceleration!?
[03:01] <VideoToaster> nickrud:  but that wasn't out when I got Virtual PC (which was cheaper than VMware, too...)
[03:01] <Noside> but did u try using synaptic???
[03:02] <p03t1c> thanks nickrud
[03:02] <slavik> rabe: did you download the .bin or the .run file from ati.com?
[03:02] <nickrud> VideoToaster, I hear that will be free soon, I may corrupt myself
[03:02] <lampshade> Anyone know about DMA on cdrom drives?  My question is in regards to hdparm,  it doesn't say DMA on or off, but I do think my drive is slower than it should be  anyway I can check to see what is being used?
[03:02] <YellowTeeth> hello
[03:02] <LathropWells> mandywilhelm, - could it be a problem with the default language choice in mozilla and fonts?
[03:02] <Veronica> i think it into the .sh content to work with.
[03:02] <YellowTeeth> i'm having trouble sending files through gaim anyone know the problem
[03:02] <fiendskull9> hey
[03:02] <VideoToaster> nickrud:  VMware Player is already free.  You can't make new virtual machines in it, but you can download virtual machines from other places.
[03:02] <fiendskull9> i installed Msoft core fonts, where are they?
[03:02] <mauper> YellowTeeth: firewall ?
[03:03] <slavik> whoever needed help with the ati driver
[03:03] <YellowTeeth> how can i change the settings
[03:03] <josh__> does anyone know if it is possible to download the ubuntulooks theme to use on breezy?
[03:03] <mandywilhelm> for what should i look for...
[03:03] <fiendskull9> josh__, its on the forums, gimme a sec
[03:03] <slavik> download the driver from ati.com and in terminal run "file-from-at.run --help"
[03:03] <wil_> darx had java problems at first too then went through  system -administration -synaptic package manager and followed directions
[03:03] <Veronica> shrewduser, no clue what the option magic
[03:03] <josh__> ok, thanks
[03:03] <YellowTeeth> mauper: how can i change the settings
[03:04] <VideoToaster> nickrud:  and the most important reason I got Virt
[03:04] <Noside> try using sudo
[03:04] <VideoToaster> ual PC:  It supports OS/2.  :D
[03:04] <nickrud> VideoToaster, 0_o Old schooler, you are
[03:04] <LathropWells> josh - If you enable "show hidden folders" in nautilus you can place your new them in the .themes folder.
[03:04] <mauper> YellowTeeth: which settings ? If either you or your peer uses a firewall, the firewall has to be configured to allow a file transfer
[03:04] <mandywilhelm> LathropWells  for what should i lok for
[03:05] <YellowTeeth> ah
[03:05] <mauper> YellowTeeth: then again: icq seems to be completely broken ...
[03:05] <YellowTeeth> i havent set up my firewall and my peer does not have one
[03:05] <YellowTeeth> im using aim servers
[03:05] <nickrud> VideoToaster, that os florished when I wasn't using computers much, but I hear nice things about that orphaned thing.
[03:07] <VideoToaster> nickrud:  Yes... It's quite obsolete now, but I needed to convert some old IBM Works documents from when I used to use OS/2, and Virtual PC was perfect for that (you can share Windows folders with OS/2 using Virtual PC Additions)
[03:07] <mauper> YellowTeeth: no idea then ...
[03:07] <Edison> hi everyone
[03:07] <rabe> slavik: the .run
[03:07] <Edison> is there a way to set up your network bandwith???
[03:07] <slavik> rabe: ok
[03:08] <slavik> rabe, open a terminal and go to the dir where the file is stored
[03:08] <rabe> ok
[03:08] <slavik> rabe: I am telling you how I got mine to work btw ...
[03:08] <rabe> but i did all the instructions on the wiki
[03:08] <rabe> ok
[03:08] <Edison> i mean your network settings?
[03:08] <rabe> hehe
[03:09] <Edison> to set up i higher speed
[03:09] <Edison> ?
[03:09] <slavik> rabe: now, run the file with '--help' parameter
[03:09] <slavik> PM me the output
[03:09] <slavik> rabe: what's your screen resolution?
[03:10] <rabe> 1280x1024
[03:10] <Edison> anyone???
[03:10] <nickrud> Edison, your question is kinda vague, I have generally got the bandwidth my provider provides
[03:10] <slavik> oh, rabe, nvm then
[03:10] <slavik> rabe, run the file
[03:10] <slavik> it will start a GUI installer
[03:10] <slavik> tell it to create a distribution package
[03:10] <slavik> not to install the driver
[03:10] <Edison> yeah, but your network card let u configure ur speed
[03:10] <slavik> then chooe breezy/5.10 or ubuntu/5.10 ... then one with 5.10 in it
[03:11] <slavik> and continue on
[03:11] <slavik> it will create a dep file
[03:11] <rabe> slavik: how do exactly mean?
[03:11] <slavik> then use dpkg -i to install it
[03:11] <slavik> rabe: double click on it to run it
[03:11] <Edison> i think i change that setting but now i cant remember where to change it again
[03:11] <slavik> if it doesn't run, go into terminal and do chmod +x file-from-ati.run
[03:12] <slavik> Edison: which setting?
[03:12] <Edison> cause it was set up to work with 10 mps and i set it up to 256 kbps
[03:12] <Edison> my lan setting
[03:12] <rabe> slavik: i got the .run file now, what should i do?
[03:12] <slavik> oh, no clue
[03:12] <slavik> rabe: doubleclick it
[03:13] <jadaz87> hello guys this command: chroot mnt dpkg-query -W --showformat='${Installed-Size;10} ${Package}\n' | sort -gr | less        gives this error chroot: cannot change root directory to mnt: Operation not permitted
[03:13] <prayforwind> Good evening. Can anyone point me to doc's that describe alsa config for CS4237b?
[03:13] <jadaz87> i was wonder why that is?
[03:13] <nickrud> jadaz87, sudo
[03:13] <nickrud> jadaz87, chroot requires admin privs, so use sudo
[03:14] <rabe> slavik: it can not open it
[03:15] <lampshade> one of my devices is listed at UDMA 33 while the other is at 100, What does that mean?
[03:16] <slavik> rabe: what's the error?
[03:17] <Hobbsee> jenda: ping?
[03:18] <rabe> slavik: should i execute it?
[03:18] <slavik> yes
[03:18] <tRSS> quick question: i have curl, wget, sed installated and using pipes, i want to be able to download pdf files from a few sites. these sites have documentations (as pdfs) of our company. instead of downloading each and every document individually, i just want to harness the power of linux to make my work easier, so need some help from you folks!
[03:18] <rabe> ok
[03:18] <tRSS> how can I do it?
[03:19] <rabe> slavik: i get this: you need to run installer as superuser
[03:19] <slavik> tRSS: use perl :)
[03:19] <tRSS> slavik: don't know perl that well! :(
[03:19] <slavik> rabe: I don't remember what exactly I did to insta;;
[03:19] <rabe> slavik: "chmod +x ati-driver-installer-8.24.8-x86.run "
[03:19] <rabe> does open it
[03:19] <slavik> rabe: right
[03:20] <slavik> good
[03:20] <gnu2it2> are /dev, /proc, /sys should all be emptey on a bootable drive that wasnt booted?
[03:20] <slavik> tRSS: the site is html?
[03:20] <rabe> ishould i now install deb packages, slavik?
[03:20] <nickrud> gnu2it2, yes
[03:20] <slavik> gnu2it2: sounds like a reasonable assumption
[03:20] <gnu2it2> thnaks
[03:20] <slavik> rabe: using dpkg
[03:20] <rabe> sudo dpkg -i xorg-driver-fglrx_8.24.8-1_i386.deb"?
[03:20] <tRSS> slavik: it is html
[03:20] <slavik> bingo!
[03:21] <tRSS> slavik: to be exact, it htm
[03:21] <Steil> Does anyone know a program that will edit pdf or postscript files?
[03:21] <nomasteryoda> scribus
[03:21] <slavik> tRSS: once you load a file into a variable: open $in, "index.html |" or die$!;
[03:21] <CokeNCode> how do you unzip a file that is in bz2 format ?
[03:21] <ariel> hi all, i need some help with GDM
[03:21] <slavik> you can parse it and extract all the pdf links ...
[03:22] <tRSS> slavik: you lost me there :'(
[03:22] <nickrud> nomasteryoda, that was an answer to Steil ? (looking for the same answer)
[03:22] <nomasteryoda> Steil, pdf2html
[03:22] <ice60> hi, has anyone here used Nagios?
[03:22] <tRSS> slavik: hold on, don't tell me yet, let me try again on my own and see if I can do it
[03:22] <nomasteryoda> nickrud, worth a try
[03:23] <tRSS> slavik: if i can't, i know whom to look for! :)
[03:23] <nickrud> lol, I've tried a lot, what's one more thing :)
[03:23] <Veronica> tonyyarusso, ok, the kernel invocation for that still wont work.
[03:23] <nomasteryoda> google uses pdf2html for the view as HTML links for pdfs
[03:23] <ariel> i don't know why, but when i try to close session in gnome, it send me to GDM and when i click on Action->Shutdown it ask for root password, when i enter the password of my user (like sudo) it says that the password is incorrect
[03:23] <terry_> que onda vatos....
[03:23] <slavik> tRSS: the pdfs are all on the same html page?
[03:23] <slavik> or do you need to traverse the site?
[03:23] <Steil> nomasteryoda: will scribus just import the file into its native format?
[03:23] <tRSS> they are all on the same page
[03:23] <slavik> tRSS: what company is this btw? (your company)
[03:23] <tRSS> slavik: yes sir
[03:24] <slavik> oh, easy ... then wget it and use a perl script
[03:24] <ariel> please help :{
[03:24] <nomasteryoda> Steil, just sec
[03:25] <mavric2001> anyone know how i would go about installing vmware-player on ubuntu breezy?
[03:25] <tRSS> slavik: i thought curl can download the htm content of the webpage, and I can somehow parse it to extract the pdf links, doing a stdout to wget, using pipes somehow. I understand what to do, just don't know how to do it
[03:25] <slavik> ariel: state your problem ... oryou will sit here for all eternity
[03:25] <mauper> tRSS: wget -r -l1 -A pdf
[03:25] <ariel> slavik, id did it, can we talk?
[03:26] <mauper> tRSS: where l(numba) is the depth of the recursion, try 1 first ... :)
[03:26] <slavik> ariel, interesting problem
[03:26] <tRSS> mauper: thanks, let me try it
[03:26] <slavik> ariel: how do you close a session in gnome?
[03:26] <rabe> if someone can tell me how to play 5.1 sound, i would be very satisfied, since nothing i tried worked
[03:26] <slavik> by logging out?
[03:26] <rabe> slavik: it did still not work with ATI
[03:26] <Joetheodd> How do you play a WMV in Linux?
[03:26] <ariel> slavik, like always... System->Logout
[03:26] <mavric2001> trying to install vmware player on ubuntu, ran the ./configure command terminal says command not found, any ideas?
[03:27] <Stormx2> mavric2001: In the right directory?
[03:27] <slavik> rabe: after you use the dep file, you have to change your xorg.config
[03:27] <mavric2001> yes i am
[03:27] <slavik> ariel: open a terminal
[03:27] <ariel> mavric2001, are you sure that the configure script is on the same directory?
[03:27] <nickrud> mavric2001, does ls configure show a configure existing
[03:27] <mavric2001> lemme check
[03:27] <ariel> slavik, open
[03:27] <rabe> slavik so how to change it so that it uses the new drivers?
[03:28] <slavik> rabe: sudo gedit /etc/X11/Xorg.conf ... or whatever the conf file is
[03:28] <slavik> hold, letme get mine
[03:28] <slavik> ariel: do "sudo echo Hello"
[03:28] <tRSS> mauper: this is working like a charm so far.. thank you so much :)
[03:28] <slavik> it should ask you for your password
[03:28] <slavik> try it
[03:28] <rabe> i did
[03:28] <rabe> and then?
[03:28] <rabe> i opened it
[03:28] <ariel> slavik, it work with the same user password
[03:28] <slavik> rabe: 1sec
[03:29] <rabe> ok
[03:29] <ariel> but i dont know why it doesnt whe i use gdm
[03:29] <mavric2001> ariel i dont see the config file
[03:29] <mauper> tRSS: np ... but be aware that every hoster will hate you for it ;) - look for options to limit bandwidth/timing :)
[03:29] <suspect_> hi
[03:29] <ariel> mavric2001, try to locate the configure script of vmware
[03:29] <suspect_> i dont play cod anymore
[03:29] <suspect_> = )
[03:29] <mavric2001> bin, doc, etc, installer, lib
[03:29] <slavik> ariel: no clue
[03:30] <slavik> ariel: it should shutdown the system without asking for a pass I think
[03:30] <nickrud> mavric2001, sudo updatedb && locate configure , it'll be one of those
[03:30] <slavik> rabe: scroll all the way down
[03:30] <venin> cheers..
[03:30] <VideoToaster> Every time I boot up Ubuntu, I see "ACPI:  Unable to locate RSDP".  What does that mean?  Is it a problem?
[03:30] <rabe> slavik: ok
[03:30] <ariel> i think the same
[03:30] <calx> cod2?
[03:30] <venin> the audio in mplayer lags alot when playing music files.. any ideas? im using alsa as audio output
[03:30] <slavik> then scroll up, you will see some definitions of modes (resolution and depth)
[03:30] <slavik> above those there will be a section for the video card
[03:31] <mimilya_86> hai
[03:31] <ariel> slavik, you know how to remove the password of root user, not sudo user
[03:31] <mavric2001> vmware-config.pl?
[03:31] <XhyldazhK> hi all
[03:31] <XhyldazhK> where is the default directory for deafult mimetype icons?
[03:31] <slavik> ariel: there is no root user on ubuntu
[03:31] <XhyldazhK> in GNOME?
[03:31] <rabe> slavik: Section "Device" you mean?
[03:31] <slavik> unless you went against that
[03:31] <mavric2001> using the sudo command
[03:31] <slavik> rabe yes
[03:31] <rabe> ok, what to do there?
[03:31] <ariel> i know, is not my machine, but maybe they set a root password
[03:31] <XhyldazhK> because I lost all my icons where uninstalled a checkinstall deb
[03:31] <slavik> where it said driver, what is in quotes?
[03:32] <XhyldazhK> please HELP meee
[03:32] <rabe> Driver      "fglrx"
[03:32] <slavik> rabe: looks like it is set to load the proper driver, restart the X server.
[03:32] <mavric2001> cant believe vmware doesnt provide some rudimentary directions for install on linux
[03:32] <slavik> or reboot your system
[03:32] <rabe> i did :-)
[03:32] <slavik> the do glxinfo | grep direct
[03:32] <slavik> and it should give you a line that says "Direct Rendering: Yes"
[03:33] <slavik> oh, ok
[03:33] <nickrud> XhyldazhK, try System->Preferences->Themes, button Theme Details, Tab icons: choose one there, it should reset them
[03:33] <slavik> after installing the deb?
[03:33] <rabe> direct rendering: no
[03:33] <XhyldazhK> after uninstalling it
[03:33] <slavik> hmm, then it is not using the driver
[03:33] <arrick> why do people ask you to join private chat rooms, then start playing games with you? Kind of childish and dumb if you ask me.
[03:33] <slavik> rabe, uninstall all the video drivers and do what I walked you through
[03:33] <nickrud> arrick, you have one of your own, don't you :P
[03:34] <arrick> yeah
[03:34] <rabe> ok, but the problem lays there, slavik:
[03:34] <arrick> but I dont play games with people in there
[03:34] <nickrud> arrick, well, they have a lot less sense
[03:34] <arrick> I hate games
[03:34] <arrick> yeah I guess
[03:34] <rabe> slavik: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Breezy_Installation_Guide#Method_2:_Generating.2FInstalling_Ubuntu_packages_for_the_newer_8.24.8_drivers_in_Breezy_Badger
[03:34] <XhyldazhK> nickrud: no, it didnt worked
[03:34] <nickrud> arrick, just brush it off
[03:34] <nomasteryoda> pdf editing... flpsed
[03:34] <nomasteryoda> that's it
[03:34] <XhyldazhK> nickrud: the rogue .deb uninstalled the icons
[03:35] <rabe> slavik: in the remove driver section of the wiki: i get an error there
[03:35] <nickrud> XhyldazhK, hm. Try selecting different icon sets from that tab. One should work.
[03:35] <arrick> nickrud, yeah I just kick banned him, I dont like messing around like that, but if thats what it takes
[03:35] <slavik> what error?
[03:35] <slavik> rabe: you also want to select the vesa driver, not the ati one
[03:35] <Red-Bull> heya
[03:35] <schtinky> anybody had any luck getting the CRT out on a dell laptop working?
[03:35] <arrick> nickrud, his name is {myp} in here
[03:35] <nickrud> the perils of being a channel op :)
[03:36] <nomasteryoda> pdf editing... flpsed .. it's in the apt repos too
[03:36] <XhyldazhK> nickrud: my default icons dissapeared, they were erased, i need to reinstall them, but i don't know which package is
[03:36] <slavik> tRSS: did that command for wget work for you?
[03:36] <nickrud> XhyldazhK, a sec, I think I know the package, possibly
[03:36] <Red-Bull> i just installed ubuntu.. and works fine.. but just a nasty thing.. i cant open website or connect via gaim.. but ping works
[03:36] <rabe> slavik: dpkg-divert: mismatch on divert-to
[03:36] <rabe>   when removing `diversion of /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2 to /usr/share/fglrx/diversions/libGL.so.1.2 by xorg-driver-fglrx'
[03:37] <Stormx2> how do I reset sound?
[03:37] <rabe> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[03:37] <echo> !xinerama
[03:37] <ubotu> I guess xinerama is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=xinerama&titlesearch=Titles Hopefully, one of these works for you, and feedback is welcome
[03:37] <slavik> uninstall the ati driver we installed
[03:38] <nickrud> XhyldazhK, gnome-icon-theme is the default one, sudo apt-get install --reinstall gnome-icon-theme will reinstall them. I guess we can start there
[03:38] <mauper> slavik: I quote : "this is working like a charm so far.. thank you so much :)" - so - seems like :)
[03:38] <XhyldazhK> aaah thanks!!!
[03:38] <tRSS> slavik: the command is working beautifully
[03:38] <slavik> oh, ok
[03:38] <slavik> perl is still better
[03:38] <tRSS> mauper: i will work on limiting the bandwidth/timing options
[03:38] <Red-Bull> maybe any1 can help me.. i just installed ubuntu out of the box.. works fine.. but i cant open websites via firefox.. dns works.. i can ping the website via terminal! but no go via firefox
[03:38] <mauper> slavik: yes, always use the bigger weapon ;) - cause it's cool ;)
[03:39] <suspect_> ok now i need help
[03:39] <tRSS> mauper: though it is a local lan website
[03:39] <nickrud> rabe, that error depends on the context, paste the whole error to pastebin
[03:39] <suspect_> just a reminder type of help
[03:39] <slavik> mauper: :P
[03:39] <mauper> tRSS: then don't bother :)
[03:39] <rabe> nickrud:ok, but what was the address?
[03:39] <suspect_> how do i use gksu -u windows?
[03:39] <nickrud> rabe, nm, I didn't read back far enough
[03:39] <suspect_> this is what i ahve to do
[03:39] <tRSS> slavik & mauper: may be it is time for me to learn to use the bigger weapons, such as perl :)
[03:39] <suspect_> Use gksu -u windows xterm to open a shell as the windows user
[03:39] <blindx> Red-Bull, have you tried using another web browser?
[03:39] <suspect_> how do i do that?
[03:40] <Red-Bull> blindx: gaim does not work either
[03:40] <suspect_> please someone tell me?
[03:40] <mauper> tRSS: never needed perl though ... but then again, I am quite lazy ;)
[03:40] <rabe> nickrud: nevermind, you can still help me since i did just that of the wiki: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Breezy_Installation_Guide#Method_2:_Generating.2FInstalling_Ubuntu_packages_for_the_newer_8.24.8_drivers_in_Breezy_Badger
[03:40] <nickrud> rabe, dpkg-divert is obscure, and especially when it's fglrx which I've never used. sorry to have wasted your time
[03:40] <Red-Bull> tracepath via terminal also no go
[03:40] <blindx> Are you on IRC on that computer right now?
[03:40] <Red-Bull> no
[03:40] <mauper> tRSS: rumor has it, perl is almighty ;)
[03:40] <suspect_> so ca someone tell me what to do?
[03:40] <suspect_> can
[03:40] <blindx> And you said you can ping to a website, or you can ping to the router?
[03:40] <Red-Bull> the website
[03:40] <tRSS> mapuer: lmao, now that was ultimate :oP
[03:41] <blindx> Red-Bull, would you mind typing out what you get as a response?
[03:41] <slavik> someone call me?
[03:41] <blindx> just one line.
[03:41] <Red-Bull> Connection to blabla.com ....
[03:41] <Red-Bull> timout
[03:41] <suspect_> hello?
[03:41] <slavik> mauper: perl is the coding language of the gods
[03:41] <rabe> slavik: i can't uninstall the drivers
[03:41] <Red-Bull> same with gaim
[03:41] <blindx> lol Red-Bull if it time out's
[03:41] <slavik> hmm
[03:41] <blindx> that means it's not pinging :P
[03:41] <david_> Hola! just put ubuntu on my laptop and need help with libdvdcss2?? i found them at a repository and when i try to aply the packages i get a file not found message ;( help please
[03:41] <suspect_> i want o know what do i have to do on this instruction.
[03:41] <suspect_> Use gksu -u windows xterm to open a shell as the windows user
[03:41] <slavik> first, uninstall the driver we installed
[03:41] <rabe> salvik: i type: sudo apt-get remove xorg-driver-fglrx, i get an error code
[03:41] <blindx> Red-Bull, your connection is not set up properly. Is this a wired connection?
[03:41] <Red-Bull> no
[03:42] <Red-Bull> i can ping the website via terminal
[03:42] <blindx> What kind of card do you have?
[03:42] <suspect_> oh god
[03:42] <Red-Bull> 3com nic
[03:42] <blindx> Red-Bull, if it's telling you that it time out's
[03:42] <rabe> slavik: i type: sudo apt-get remove xorg-driver-fglrx, i get an error code
[03:42] <blindx> then no you can't
[03:42] <slavik> david_: you can't be helped, the file are simply not in the repo ...
[03:42] <Red-Bull> i can even log on ftp servers
[03:42] <suspect_> blind
[03:42] <Red-Bull> via terminal
[03:42] <suspect_> blindx
[03:42] <blindx> sup
[03:42] <slavik> rabe: how about the other packages?
[03:42] <suspect_> can YOu help me?
[03:42] <Red-Bull> ftp ftp.idsoftware.com works fine..
[03:42] <blindx> with?
[03:42] <suspect_> Use gksu -u windows xterm to open a shell as the windows user
[03:42] <david_> ahh thnk you any where ellse i could look??
[03:42] <suspect_> what do i ahve to do there?
[03:42] <suspect_> have*
[03:42] <echo> ok i think i got another stupid question
[03:42] <blindx> Red-Bull, can you actually transmit data?
[03:42] <echo> Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G] /GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device
[03:42] <rabe> slavik: how to uninstall that one?
[03:42] <blindx> try getting a file
[03:43] <echo> why does it say that instead of nvidia
[03:43] <Red-Bull> blindx: ya..
[03:43] <echo> under device
[03:43] <blindx> you can?!
[03:43] <Red-Bull> blindx: yes
[03:43] <echo> on my xorg
[03:43] <suspect_> ok no one wants to help me
[03:43] <blindx> Well that makes absolutely no sense, then
[03:43] <suspect_> = (
[03:43] <blindx> suspect
[03:43] <blindx> with what?
[03:43] <suspect_> Use gksu -u windows xterm to open a shell as the windows user
[03:43] <slavik> rabe: so you got all of them except for this one?
[03:43] <suspect_> that
[03:43] <Red-Bull> blindx: but i cant browse sites via firefox or connect to icq via gaim
[03:43] <slavik> rabe: pastbin the errors
[03:43] <suspect_> what do i have to do on that/
[03:43] <suspect_> ?
[03:43] <slavik> actually
[03:43] <blindx> I have no clue, suspect_
[03:43] <slavik> rabe: change the driver line in the config to vesa and restart the xserver
[03:43] <david_> i shall go deep into underworld in search of mythicall dvd libs
[03:43] <suspect_> aww man
[03:44] <slavik> that way the module won't get loaded
[03:44] <icebreak> how can i mass upload directories recursivly in sftp ?
[03:44] <rabe> slavik: ok will try
[03:44] <suspect_> does anyone have a clue on what to do on this step?
[03:44] <suspect_> Use gksu -u windows xterm to open a shell as the windows user
[03:44] <venin> ive installed alsa-oss with apt-get .. but the alsa-oss doesnt show in the mplayer-list. howcome?
[03:44] <blindx> Red-Bull, it makes no sense that you can't ping out, connect through firefox, or use gaim.
[03:44] <blindx> but that you can connect through ftp
[03:44] <Red-Bull> ya..
[03:44] <Red-Bull> i know.. suxx
[03:44] <suspect_> .....
[03:45] <suspect_> ok?
[03:45] <blindx> Red-Bull, what is your wireless interface's name?
[03:45] <suspect_> so know one knows what to do there?
[03:45] <suspect_> Use gksu -u windows xterm to open a shell as the windows user
[03:45] <Red-Bull> blindx: i am not using a wireless device
[03:45] <nickrud> suspect_, just what are you trying to do, your final goal?
[03:45] <blindx> oh, i thought you said it was.
[03:45] <blindx> sorry, my fault.
[03:45] <blindx> well, do you know the interface name?
[03:45] <suspect_> im trying to install wine and install ie6
[03:45] <jadaz87> hello i was wondering how do i get a deb file from the repos
[03:46] <suspect_> Internet Explorer 6.
[03:46] <jadaz87> jadaz87 not with apt-get i want the actual file
[03:46] <jadaz87> apt-get install*
[03:46] <Red-Bull> blindx: its a 3com 390-TX card
[03:46] <Red-Bull> works fine with windows and as i said.. i can PING websites via terminal!
[03:46] <suspect_> ok nickrud?
[03:46] <slavik> jadaz87: you can tell apt-get to only download it
[03:46] <slavik> I know synaptic can
[03:46] <blindx> Red-Bull, you told me it times out when you try to ping, therefore it's not actually pinging.
[03:46] <jadaz87> slavik oh goodie how do i do that? :-)
[03:47] <slavik> run synaptic?
[03:47] <Red-Bull> blindx: i told you its get a timeout via firefox..
[03:47] <david_> anyone got time to give me some tips on "intergrated" intell 802.11 g/b??
[03:47] <icebreak> how can i mass upload directories recursivly in sftp ?
[03:47] <slavik> system->administration->synaptic package manager
[03:47] <blindx> what kinda response do you get when you ping?
[03:47] <rabe> slavik: i use vesa now, how can i see if 3d acceleration is used?
[03:47] <Red-Bull> blindx: 16ms ping reply
[03:47] <jadaz87> david you want to install?
[03:47] <blindx> weird.
[03:47] <david_> yes!
[03:47] <slavik> rabe: glxinfo |grep direct
[03:47] <jadaz87> david or get it working rather
[03:47] <blindx> Red-Bull, do ifconfig from terminal and tell me what you get under eth0
[03:47] <jadaz87> !tell david_ about wireless
[03:47] <david_> yes
[03:47] <blindx> does it have an IP?
[03:48] <Red-Bull> yes
[03:48] <rabe> slavik: glxinfo: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[03:48] <blindx> hm
[03:48] <nickrud> suspect, for internet explorer you need wine
[03:48] <Red-Bull> all correct.. gateway..dns..subnet.. all fine
[03:48] <blindx> nickrud, suspect left :P
[03:48] <blindx> Red-Bull, are you using static ip, or dhcp?
[03:48] <Red-Bull> static
[03:48] <blindx> try dhcp?
[03:48] <slavik> hmm, did you try following the wiki again to remove all the packages?
[03:48] <Red-Bull> no. why?
[03:48] <slavik> the drivers
[03:49] <blindx> what do you mean why?
[03:49] <blindx> to see if it works.
[03:49] <jadaz87> slavic where in synaptic? i am in there now
[03:49] <nickrud> blindx, eh.
[03:49] <Red-Bull> if i can ping websites unter terminal...
[03:49] <rabe> how to see now if 3d acceleration works?
[03:49] <Red-Bull> i think its all correct..
[03:49] <slavik> find the package and mark it for install
[03:49] <blindx> Red-Bull, If your internet connection works with you using DHCP, then we know it's not the system or the card, but your settings instead.
[03:49] <slavik> rabe: vesa is not accelarated
[03:49] <blindx> Then we eliminate two issues.
[03:50] <blindx> If you don't want me to help you, then I won't try to help you.
[03:50] <slavik> rabe: follow the wiki to uninstall the drivers
[03:50] <rabe> that's the problem i'm telling you, i get this error
[03:50] <slavik> pastebin it
[03:50] <Red-Bull> i have to reboot router etc. to enable dhcp.. dont want to
[03:51] <rabe> where to pastebin?
[03:51] <slavik> rabe: what card are you using?
[03:51] <blindx> what kinda router are you using, Red-Bull ?
[03:51] <slavik> !pastebin
[03:51] <ubotu> I guess pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[03:51] <Red-Bull> if i can do ping & ftp via terminal... nic is ok i thinkk
[03:51] <nickrud> !pastebin
[03:51] <rabe> ?
[03:51] <blindx> Red-Bull, lol fine. I'm done. Good luck.
[03:51] <jadaz87> slavik i do not want to install it i want to download the deb file lol
[03:51] <Veronica> oh, no clue
[03:51] <nickrud> rabe, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ is a pastebin
[03:51] <slavik> jadaz87: did you mark the package for install?
[03:52] <rabe> ok, nickrud
[03:52] <slavik> jadaz87: this is the part where you don't ask questions ...
[03:52] <jadaz87> slavik it is already installed
[03:52] <slavik> then it is in the cache
[03:52] <nickrud> rabe, you can drag the mouse (hold the left button & drag) across some text in a terminal, then hit the middle button on the mouse in the pastebin text box
[03:52] <slavik> hopefully
[03:52] <jadaz87> how do i copy the deb file from the cache?
[03:53] <slavik> cache is on your system
[03:53] <jadaz87> oh ok
[03:53] <nickrud> /var/cache/apt/archives
[03:53] <rabe> ok here the pastebin (got german ubuntu version, however): http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12270
[03:54] <malavar> hey
[03:55] <nickrud> oh god, that one again. sorry rabe :) I'd try 1st: sudo apt-get -f install and try the uninstall again
[03:56] <rabe> you are familiar with that error?
[03:56] <nickrud> noonex, but I've seen variations on it
[03:56] <t1nl0tus> Hey, does anyone know how I increase the number of sound channels I have?
[03:56] <nickrud> rabe, ^^^
[03:56] <t1nl0tus> Currently, I can only have one program using my sound and it's getting quite annoying.
[03:56] <nickrud> !sound
[03:56] <ubotu> I guess sound is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[03:57] <slavik> I tink I know what it means
[03:57] <t1nl0tus> Thanks, nickrud
[03:57] <rabe> nickrud: still not working
[03:57] <PwcrLinux> Hi there
[03:57] <david_> Anyone know how i could figure out what packages i need to drive an intergrated 802.11b/g. on a mobile intell(R) 82915GMS/910GML chipset?
[03:57] <dibblego> how do I tell my system to check for OS updates?
[03:57] <PuMpErNiCkLe> t1nl0tus: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063
[03:57] <PwcrLinux> Anyone, I plugged my flash drive and autodetected, then I worked on something and after it's done, I pulled my flash driver out of USB hub, so I checked dmesg, it's all says Dead I/O rejecting.. I guess my fault?
[03:58] <slavik> dibblego: apt-get update and then apt-get upgrade
[03:58] <nickrud> rabe, then I'd try dpkg -r --force-remove-reinstreq <package>
[03:58] <rabe> i give up with that ATI crap, i will move to dapper anyway and try to kick that card for a nvidia
[03:58] <slavik> PwcrLinux: it didn't write to the drive sounds like
[03:58] <Xaero_Vincent> rabe... ATI just released new drivers
[03:58] <Xaero_Vincent> for Linux
[03:59] <Xaero_Vincent> it supports the x1000 series now
[03:59] <Xaero_Vincent> :D
[03:59] <slavik> Xaero_Vincent: rabe is having trouble with dpkg-diversion
[03:59] <rabe> nickrud, still not working
[03:59] <slavik> seems like the symlink for the file was not what it expected
[04:00] <slavik> rabe, see if you have a file in /usr/share/fglrx/diversions name libGL.so.1.2
[04:00] <echo> ok another retarted question... the card im trying to do dual screen with is pci... does that matter???
[04:00] <echo> ty
[04:00] <slavik> echo: it shouldn't
[04:00] <echo> damnit
[04:00] <echo> oh well
[04:00] <echo> ty
[04:00] <nickrud> rabe, like I said a while back, dpkg-divert is not my forte. Those were the two arrows in my quiver at the moment. Sorry
[04:01] <slavik> nickrud: divert doesn't like the diversions it sees
[04:01] <PwcrLinux> slavik: Yea, after i pulled USB flash drive from hub box, desktop disappearing a icon. checked on my dmesg. it;s appeared errors..  So next time should I unmounting to prevent any error before pull USB flash drive out of hub box.
[04:01] <slavik> rabe, see if you have a file in /usr/share/fglrx/diversions name libGL.so.1.2
[04:01] <slavik> PwcrLinux: yes
[04:01] <sonicjam> hey guys
[04:02] <nickrud> slavik, I like to think I understand debian package management, but diversions, not. I'll be watching & learning :)
[04:02] <PwcrLinux> slavik: ah okay i got it
[04:02] <Cheerios> hey all
[04:02] <sonicjam> i'm a noob in linux and i want to know how to install fire fox 1.5.0.2
[04:02] <jadaz87> nickrud if i do       sudo apt-get -d install wifi-radar what whould that do?
[04:02] <jadaz87> !ff1,5
[04:02] <jadaz87> !ff1.5
[04:02] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[04:02] <Cheerios> I'm having trouble with openLDAP (slapd) configuration... are there any guru's in the house?
[04:02] <sonicjam> i did
[04:02] <jadaz87> lol
[04:02] <terry> hi
[04:02] <echo> does anyone have 2 monitors running off of an nvidia 5200
[04:02] <Veronica> ompaul, so you think automatix may be the source of my problem?
[04:02] <echo> ???
[04:02] <sonicjam> but it doesn't work correctly
[04:02] <rabe> slavik: seems like i don't have fglrx anymore
[04:03] <terry> I am new in it ...
[04:03] <nickrud> jadaz87, just download the package to /var/cache/apt/archives, ready for a apt-get install wifi-radar (without another download)
[04:03] <dibblego> echo: almost, NVIDIA PCX5300
[04:03] <echo> can i see it
[04:03] <echo> noit it
[04:03] <dibblego> echo: and it is PCI
[04:03] <terry> some body can help me
[04:03] <echo> nice
[04:03] <dibblego> echo: see what?
[04:03] <echo> \can you send me a copy of your xorg.conf file
[04:03] <dibblego> ok, email?
[04:03] <Veronica> mauper: how can i change the settings
[04:03] <terry> I get ubuntu but I dont get emacs...
[04:03] <echo> paul@ipricku.com
[04:04] <sonicjam> i have an nVidia geForce XFX 5200 256mb agp
[04:04] <nickrud> jadaz87, I used to do that every night when I had dialup only
[04:04] <PwcrLinux> brb
[04:04] <terry> how I can install emacs...
[04:04] <mauper> Veronica: erm, I beg your pardon ?
[04:04] <echo> yeah
[04:04] <nickrud> terry, install emacs21
[04:04] <tRSS> slavik / mauper: quick question: i want to disable and then enable eth0 of a remote machine. to disable and enable it, i would use ifconfig eth0 down (and up) but, once eth0 goes down, i will also lose connection. how can I disable/enable eth0, such that i am not disconnected. or even if I am disconnected, eth0 is back up
[04:04] <echo> yo can you send a copy of your xorg.conf file to me too
[04:04] <sonicjam> brb
[04:04] <echo> paul@ipricku.com
[04:04] <MachineScrew> terry sudo apt-get install emacs21
[04:04] <MachineScrew> in a terminal
[04:04] <dibblego> sent
[04:05] <mauper> tRSS: write a script ?
[04:05] <mauper> tRSS: but no matter what - you will lose the connection anyway
[04:05] <terry> mmm but where it is this archive...??
[04:05] <id`> cant i search with apt get?
[04:05] <id`> can*
[04:05] <tRSS> mapuer: i thought, "ifconfig eth0 down && ifconfig eth0 up" would do the job!?
[04:05] <nickrud> tRSS, ifdown eth0 && ifup eth0
[04:05] <echo> thanks
[04:05] <echo> brb
[04:05] <sissi> why I do I not have vlc win32codecs and gdesklets with ubuntu 5.10 ?
[04:05] <terry> ooo ok I will try
[04:06] <terry> thanks machinescrew
[04:06] <ubuntu> anyone speak spanish?
[04:06] <slavik> sissi: you didn't install them?
[04:06] <MachineScrew> np terry
[04:06] <terry> I speak spanish
[04:06] <cafuego> !es
[04:06] <mauper> tRSS: not sure about that ... the first command kills the connection so that the second gets never executed ... not sure though
[04:06] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:06] <slavik> !tell ubuntu about es
[04:06] <MYP> !sp
[04:06] <ubotu> MYP: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:06] <facugaich> terry
[04:06] <sissi> slavik, no avalable when I apt-get search
[04:06] <mauper> tRSS: look for "nohup"
[04:06] <terry> de donde eres ubuntu
[04:06] <MYP> !es
[04:06] <facugaich> terry, #ubuntu-es
[04:06] <ubuntu> holaa terry de chile
[04:06] <slavik> sissi: I know gdesklets are there
[04:06] <facugaich> ah, perdon
[04:06] <sissi> slavik, I use the default sources.list
[04:06] <cafuego> Now look what you'v done!
[04:06] <tRSS> mauper: will do. nickrud: let me check it out
[04:06] <terry> yo soy de mexico
[04:06] <slavik> sissi: use synaptic ...
[04:06] <slavik> sissi: that's why
[04:06] <echo> thank you tony i got it
[04:07] <sissi> slavik, I try with synaptic
[04:07] <facugaich> ubuntu, te podemos ayudar en #ubuntu-es
[04:07] <ubuntu> que bien, terry que nivel de usuario de ubuntu eres
[04:07] <terry> ubuntu tu sabes como puedo installar el emacs en mi computadora
[04:07] <terry> super usuario
[04:07] <cafuego> ubuntu:/terry: Kunnen jullie misschien naar #ubuntu-es gaan, dit is erg vervelend hier.
[04:07] <terry> jajaja es mi primera vez en la red y he manejado muy poco el linux y tu??
[04:07] <id`> vind ik ook dat slappe geluk, begrijpt niemand van
[04:07] <ubuntu> debian algo s
[04:07] <id`> terry, ubuntu: see how anoying?
[04:07] <sissi> slavik, I will pastbin my sources.list would you mind to tell me what's wrong ?
[04:08] <id`> gelul, even*
[04:08] <nickrud> where's my universal translator, it should be run by ubotu
[04:08] <ubuntu> pero me tiene algo mal la instalacin de ubunto jajaja tengo problemas con el debootstrap
[04:08] <facugaich> terry, ubuntu, vallan a #ubuntu-es
[04:08] <cafuego> !tell ubuntu -about es
[04:08] <terry> I know
[04:08] <terry> but I am novat person in it
[04:08] <sonicjam> back
[04:08] <ubuntu> nos estan echando jaja
[04:08] <cafuego> ubuntu: wat?
[04:08] <terry> jajajaj en serio
[04:08] <ubuntu> ok, cya
[04:08] <slavik> !tell sissi about repos
[04:08] <terry> porque???
[04:09] <sissi> slavik, http://pastebin.com/660774
[04:09] <terry> tienes msn??
[04:09] <sissi> slavik, ok thx I'll read it
[04:09] <sonicjam> but seriously i need to install firefox 1.5.0.2 i tried that website and i get error in the terminal
[04:10] <defendguin__> how come i cant install the openoffice quickstart applet without unstalling openiffice.org-gnome
[04:10] <ubuntu> firedesign@...
[04:10] <nickrud> defendguin__, good question, I was wondering about that one myself (dapper?)
[04:11] <Tarantulafudge> can anyone help me get my jaz drive to work
[04:11] <defendguin__> nickrud: yes dapper.  dispite my brand new centrino laptop it doesnt doesnt open nearly fast enough
[04:11] <sonicjam> can any one help me
[04:12] <cafuego> slavik: nope
[04:12] <defendguin__> sonicjam: scrap the jazzdrive and get a usb drive
[04:12] <cafuego> defendguin__: I believe the qstart applet is an OOo 1.x thing.
[04:12] <Hobbsee> !+anyone
[04:12] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[04:12] <nickrud> defendguin__, I keep a spreadsheet open all the time, it speeds up the rest
[04:12] <cafuego> defendguin__: OOo-gnome is OOo2.
[04:12] <tRSS> i was assuming that when one command was followed by another command, with && in between would execute the first command and then the second command. it didn't work in my case though (i.e. ifconfig eth0 down && ifconfig eth0 up)
[04:12] <jedx23> Hey is there anyway to remove the password thingy that keeps asking for
[04:12] <jedx23> my password
[04:12] <slavik> jedx23: no
[04:12] <slavik> jedx23: ubunt is not windows
[04:13] <defendguin__> cafuego: is there a way to increase launching speed?
[04:13] <jedx23> lol
[04:13] <Veronica> ompaul, so you think automatix may be the source of my problem?
[04:13] <cafuego> defendguin__: Apart from a faster cpu? ;-)
[04:13] <jedx23> It ask for it on everything
[04:13] <slavik> jedx23: if you want to install everything that wants to get installed, use windows and wonder why your system is slow
[04:13] <slavik> jedx23: that is the point
[04:13] <cafuego> !automatix
[04:13] <ubotu> it has been said that automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[04:13] <defendguin__> cafuego: this is about as fast a laptop as i want to get
[04:13] <jedx23> I hate windows
[04:13] <slavik> jedx23: otherwise the system might be changed without your knowledge
[04:13] <jedx23> I been useing linux for a few months now
[04:13] <PwcrLinux> slavik: It's work good, I tested plugged in and then unmounting, checked on dmesg  no errors whew!
[04:13] <jedx23> I finaly had time to buy a nic card
[04:14] <cafuego> defendguin__: The first run of Ooo also takes a while on my AMD64. Subsequent runs *are* fast, though.
[04:14] <jedx23> usb wont work
[04:14] <jedx23> it don't except dsl modems on it
[04:14] <sonicjam> um i'm emulating linux
[04:14] <sonicjam> with vmware
[04:14] <cafuego> defendguin__: Check the launchpad bug reports; see if there's a feature request to have qstarter put back (and file one if not..)
[04:14] <defendguin__> cafuego: thats why the quick start applet was so important
[04:14] <PwcrLinux> jedx23: which USB device that not working?
[04:15] <defendguin__> it makes it like it already been open
[04:15] <jedx23> the motherboard usb
[04:15] <jedx23> i allready looked it up
[04:15] <jedx23> ubuntu wont work with speedstreamer dsl
[04:15] <sonicjam> so no one is going to help me :/
[04:15] <blindx> lol lycade. i was about to ask for you :P
[04:15] <Veronica> Right,
[04:15] <PwcrLinux> jedx23: did you check on dmesg in the terminal box?
[04:15] <Lycade> Thanks. :p
[04:15] <jedx23> anyway i got another question
[04:15] <Lycade> I doubt theres any help for me though. :(
[04:16] <mwhite> hello. New Ubuntu user here..Nice to meet everyone
[04:16] <blindx> Lycade: never hurts to try
[04:16] <blindx> hey mwhite
[04:16] <Lycade> I have a friend elsewhere trying to help me. xD
[04:16] <jedx23> is there any application out there i can keep my self and my pc safe from viruses
[04:16] <blindx> yes. linux :P
[04:16] <sonicjam> lol
[04:16] <mwhite> if someone gets a few minutes, can you help me with a little problem?
[04:16] <nickrud> jedx23, there isn't much call for an antivirus for linux
[04:16] <Veronica> ompaul, so you think automatix may be the source of my problem?
[04:17] <volley> holy jeez my dl has said time remaining: 5 seconds for like the last 10 minutes 0.o
[04:17] <jedx23> ok thanks
[04:17] <terry> I couldnt install the emacs I put this command but write this couldnt find this archive....
[04:17] <nickrud> Veronica, if ompauld doesn't answer, the answer is 'quite probably'
[04:17] <sonicjam> you know linux does have some virus but not as many as windows
[04:17] <Veronica> slavik it is already installed
[04:17] <nickrud> mwhite, ask away, maybe someone has an answer
[04:17] <volley> and what will that virus do without root privalige
[04:17] <slavik> Veronica: what is?
[04:17] <Veronica> nickrud: the rogue .deb uninstalled the icons
[04:17] <terry> sudo apt-get install emacs21
[04:18] <slavik> volley: nothing dangerous?
[04:18] <mwhite> does anyone know how I can access the Java Console?
[04:18] <Veronica> ???
[04:18] <volley> yaknow
[04:18] <jedx23> is there any anonymous ip thingy i can use cause i got banned from he aint the owner he just doe's for fun and i'm getting sick of it
[04:18] <slavik> Veronica: huh?
[04:18] <jedx23> irc
[04:18] <Xaero_Vincent> volley destroy the home directory... blah... just backup it and your good
[04:18] <Veronica> :/
[04:18] <jedx23> brb
[04:18] <nickrud> Veronica, ouch
[04:19] <blazemonger> anyone here use jack/rosegarden?
[04:19] <Xaero_Vincent> Ubuntu is pretty much locked down to make any virus writers ballz ache.
[04:19] <blazemonger> i'm trying to figure out how to get jack to work properly..
[04:19] <volley> oh ya Im just saying that even if linux does have a vis or 2 circulating it is nowhere as bad as windows
[04:19] <sonicjam> i want firefox 1.5.0.2 installed in my linux but when i type in the command i get an error can any one help me
[04:19] <cafuego> defendguin__: Tools > Options > Memory > [ ]  Load at system startup
[04:19] <slavik> .me is not following what is goin on
[04:19] <nickrud> Veronica, as I recall, gnome-icon-theme has the default icon theme, try sudo apt-get install --reinstall gnome-icon-theme
[04:19] <Veronica> tRSS: did thank you so much :)" - seems like :)
[04:20] <blazemonger> ubuntu is a convenient distro...even my friend that doesnt even know much about computers even likes linux
[04:20] <defendguin__> ahhhh
[04:20] <cafuego> defendguin__: ... may or may not work.
[04:20] <nickrud> ahhh, thanks cafuego it's something to check out
[04:20] <defendguin__> ill try it out
[04:20] <Xaero_Vincent> yea EasyUbuntu and Automatix makes Ubuntu among the best... right along with SUSE and YaST.
[04:20] <defendguin__> that applet looks ugly as hell anyway
[04:20] <nickrud> rflol
[04:21] <terry> some body speak spanish....???
[04:21] <tRSS> Veronica: I am sort of lost. You are thanking me for.....? :)
[04:21] <nickrud> !es
[04:21] <Veronica> it should ask your password
[04:21] <volley> how many kb in a mb?
[04:21] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:21] <cafuego> ticking that box runs the OOO2 quickstarter in the panel.
[04:21] <sonicjam> is everyone ignoring me :/
[04:21] <mwhite> does Ubuntu have an easy way to access the Java Console?
[04:21] <cafuego> volley: Kb or KB (or KiB)
[04:21] <Veronica> moonwatcher, can you paste the IPv6 IP address line from ifconfig?
[04:21] <volley> KB
[04:22] <volley> in a MB
[04:22] <cafuego> Well, 1024 in real life. 1000 in marketing departments ;-)
[04:22] <volley> hmm
[04:22] <jramsey> .
[04:22] <terry> ubotu eres tu de chil???
[04:22] <terry> chile??
[04:22] <jinho326> Hi I just installed ubuntu and when it loads my screen is all screwed up- all I see is a white and black cross hatch on the screen, But I do see my mouse as well. I have an ATI radeon 9200. Is there any way to fix this from Bash by starting in recovery mode?
[04:22] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, terry
[04:23] <terry> gracias
[04:23] <cafuego> terry: ubotu is a robot, written in perl (and runs in Australia)
[04:23] <mwhite> so this isn't a support chat room???
[04:23] <cafuego> mwhite: 't is.
[04:23] <jinho326> anyone....?
[04:23] <cafuego> mwhite: Were you after a terminal and the command 'java' ?
[04:23] <Veronica> !tell david_ about wireless
[04:24] <tRSS> jinho326: gimme just a sec., i will try and help you
[04:24] <wil_> mwhite-firefox-tools-javascript
[04:24] <blazemonger> anyone know how to build a low latency kernel in ubuntu
[04:24] <mwhite> I'm trying to install some software from CD. and...
 thank you
[04:24] <jramsey> blazemonger, define low latency
[04:24] <Lycade> Whats a good website for learning simple commands for linux?
[04:24] <mwhite> when I type setup.bin it shows alot of ..... then says...
[04:24] <cafuego> blazemonger: the low latency (preemption) stuff is built-in (and enabled)
[04:24] <volley> 2645 of 176.4MB at 312.38 KB/s    Does that e any sence
[04:24] <mwhite> Starting InstallShield Wizard....
[04:24] <mwhite> then it goes back to the command line prompt
[04:24] <volley> does that make any sence
[04:24] <nickrud> mwhite, what app are you trying to install, and from what cd, and ew, installshield :)
[04:25] <facugaich> volley, that's measured in bytes
[04:25] <cafuego> mwhite: How is that Linux-related?
[04:25] <mwhite> I'm trying to install Rational Web Developer for Linux
[04:25] <dibblego> "sense" - there is no such word as "sence" - yes it makes sense
[04:25] <tRSS> jinho326: sorry i have to jet... you have to edit a file in /etc/X11/xorg.conf . I am sorry, but this is kind of an emergency.
[04:25] <cafuego> mwhite: Does it require java (or a specific version thereof?)
 thanks anyways
[04:26] <mwhite> It requires java 1.4+
[04:26] <volley> well its been saying that the dl will be done in 5 seconds for like the last 10 mins
[04:26] <jinho326> Hi I just installed ubuntu and when it loads my screen is all screwed up- all I see is a white and black cross hatch on the screen, But I do see my mouse as well. I have an ATI radeon 9200. Is there any way to fix this from Bash by starting in recovery mode?
[04:26] <cafuego> mwhite: Did you install one
[04:26] <mwhite> I want to see the Java Console to see if it has any errors but I can't find it
[04:26] <nickrud> jinho326, try this: ctl-alt-f1, that should give you a terminal to log into. Once you've logged in, type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:26] <sonicjam> :(
[04:27] <mwhite> Java is already installed..I can do java -version and get 1.4.2
[04:27] <jramsey> Lycade, try http://www.linux.org/lessons/beginner/toc.html
 can this be done by starting in recovery mode?
[04:27] <Lycade> Thank you, jramsey. ^^
[04:27] <nickrud> jinho326, yes, but its not necessary to go into recovery mode
[04:27] <cafuego> mwhite: Is there a Java Console in System -> Preferences or System > Admin ?
 is there anything else I need to do after typing that in?
[04:28] <mwhite> nope
[04:28] <blindx> building from source: configure, make, make install ...right?
[04:28] <nickrud> jinho326, there will be a bunch of questions, most of which you will just hit enter on.
[04:28] <dibblego> mwhite: the Java Console will be specific to your browser plugin
[04:28] <mwhite> so the default Java that came with Ubuntu isn't what I need?
 thank you nickrud, I'll give it a shot :-)
[04:29] <cafuego> mwhite: sunning setup.bin doesn'pront any info/errors to the terminal you run it from?
[04:29] <mwhite> no that is what is driving me crazy..no errors
[04:29] <dibblego> mwhite: which version of Java did you install exactly, and how did you install it?
[04:29] <sonicjam> i need help
[04:29] <nickrud> jinho326, it will probably just get you back to where you are, but first steps are first steps
[04:29] <sonicjam> i'm new to linux
[04:29] <volley> ummm
[04:30] <nickrud> sonicjam, welcome then. Any particular problems
[04:30] <mwhite> I didn't download Java, it was already installed with Ubuntu
[04:30] <dibblego> mwhite: what makes you think you even have a Java Console then? did you install a browser plugin?
[04:30] <gmmech> sound card/driver issure driving me nuts here
[04:31] <mwhite> I assummed I have a Java Console because Java was installed
[04:31] <gmmech> I think I'm on the right track but I've got to be missing something
[04:31] <sonicjam> yes i'm trying to install firefox 1.5.0.1 i went to the website of how to install it but i get an error in the ternimal
[04:31] <dibblego> a Java Console is what is used for web browser plugins
[04:31] <gmmech> lol I just used automatix
[04:32] <mwhite> hmm
[04:32] <blindx> What to do after "make install" when building?
[04:32] <mwhite> now I'm really lost..hehe
[04:32] <nickrud> sonicjam, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion that page
[04:32] <cafuego> blindx: realise your mistake
[04:32] <blindx> oh, right
[04:32] <blindx> F*!@
[04:32] <blindx>  :P
[04:32] <nickrud> gmmech, you lucky dog, it worked for you
[04:32] <sonicjam> nickrud: that the page i went but it doesn't find the tar.gz file
[04:33] <gmmech> the one thing that has
[04:33] <gmmech> lol
[04:33] <blindx> is it installed after make install ?
[04:33] <mwhite> I just went to java.com and verified my plugin and I don't have it :(
[04:33] <blindx> I'm new :P
[04:33] <nickrud> sonicjam, what do you mean by ' it doesn't find the tar.gz file'
[04:33] <facugaich> what's this red line that appears once in a while in xchat?
[04:33] <blindx> facugaich, when someone says your name?
[04:33] <facugaich> no
[04:33] <blindx> oh :P
[04:33] <sonicjam> nickrud: hold on i'll show you what i get
[04:34] <nickrud> facugaich, it's a marker of when you switched away from xchat then came back to it
[04:34] <facugaich> oh, thanks
[04:35] <mwhite> since I have java installed (java -version = 1.4.2) can I point firefox to use that?
[04:35] <gmmech> anyone any good at installing alsa soundcard drivers????
[04:35] <crimsun> gmmech: what's the issue?
[04:35] <nickrud> mwhite, sudo update-alternatives --config java , select the blackdown/1.4 version, after that firefox should see your java
[04:36] <gmmech> can't get soundcard reconnzed
[04:36] <mwhite> nick.. I do that in command line?
[04:36] <gmmech> driving me nuts
[04:36] <gmmech> problem is I'm no go at linux
[04:36] <gmmech> lol
[04:37] <gmmech> just at searching
[04:37] <crimsun> gmmech: new hardware?
[04:37] <prospero2005> I'm thinking about doing an apt-get dist-upgrade to dapper for xgl. Any thoughts?
[04:37] <gmmech> hell no
[04:37] <blazemonger> question:why is it i get better sound in linux than i do in windows xp?
[04:37] <nickrud> prospero2005, xgl is not a good enough reason to upgrade
[04:37] <pepsi^^> had somebody used ebuntu ?
[04:37] <PuMpErNiCkLe> prospero2005: Sure.. dapper is fairly stable.
[04:37] <crimsun> gmmech: old? what sound hardware is it?
[04:38] <sonicjam> nickrud this is what i get tar: firefox-1.5.0.1.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[04:38] <sonicjam> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[04:38] <sonicjam> tar: Child returned status 2
[04:38] <sonicjam> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[04:38] <gmmech> its a toshiba tecra8000 with yamaha opl3sa2
[04:38] <Hobbsee> !+paste
[04:38] <ubotu> Please don't flood the channel! For best results use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and tell people the URL
[04:38] <prospero2005> nickrud I have a dual-head setup. Think xgl will work with it?
[04:38] <mwhite> ok nick.. I did it..I don't have a blackdown/1.4 listed
[04:38] <Hobbsee> sonicjam: cd into the directory you downloaded it first...
[04:38] <crimsun> gmmech: does ``sudo modprobe snd-opl3sa2'' work?
[04:38] <mwhite> 1. /usr/bin/gij-wrapper-4.0
[04:38] <gmmech> nope
[04:39] <crimsun> gmmech: is /proc/bus/pnp mounted?
[04:39] <mwhite> *+ 2. /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/bin/java
[04:39] <nickrud> sonic2, that means you are not in the directory where you downloaded the tar.gz file
[04:39] <gmmech> hmmmmmm
[04:39] <nickrud> prospero2005, I really have no idea. When I realized that the window manager for xgl was crippled, I gave it up.
[04:39] <sonicjam> hobbsee i'm new in linux and that mean?
[04:40] <Hobbsee> !tell sonicjam about cli
[04:40] <prospero2005> nickrud crippled?
[04:40] <Hobbsee> sonicjam: where did you download the file to?
[04:40] <nickrud> sonicjam, sorry, ^^^ look up
[04:40] <gmmech> I'm going to say no
[04:40] <mwhite> I will download the latest java and see if that works
[04:40] <sonicjam> desktop
[04:41] <crimsun> gmmech: pastebin ``pnpdump -v''
[04:41] <echo> is there anyone else using a geforce fx 5200 pci video card and using 2 monitors>???
[04:41] <nickrud> prospero2005, it's only a proof of concept, there's a lot of things that a window manager should handle, like shortcuts, etc that this iteration does not have
[04:41] <gmmech> from what I read I added pnp=0 to the config file because ist an ISa cars
[04:41] <jramsey> anyone familiar with the book (and maybe the examples) Linux Device Drivers ??
[04:42] <crimsun> gmmech: you'll need to add isapnp=0 is your PnPBIOS is overridden, yes
[04:42] <Hobbsee> sonicjam: then do a cd Desktop, then try the first command again...
[04:42] <crimsun> gmmech: s/is your/if your/
[04:42] <sonicjam> ok
[04:42] <gmmech> good question I looked for a pnp setting in the bios but didnt see one
[04:43] <crimsun> gmmech: it's also called "easy boot" or "quick boot" or anything along those lines
[04:43] <crimsun> gmmech: did you pastebin the info I asked for?
[04:44] <sonicjam> so hobbsee i type in -cd /desktop right
[04:45] <gmmech> real stupid ? do I just "pnpdump in a term window?
[04:45] <dark_fibre> hi. i've gparted a 40GB drive to ext3. apparently 700mb is being used by the filesystem? reiserfs seems to take only 80mb - wouldn't that always be the better option then?
[04:45] <Hobbsee> sonicjam: type "cd Desktop" and hit enter
[04:45] <crimsun> gmmech: yes.
[04:45] <jadaz87> hello everyone i was wondering how can i shutoff services on the livecd while it is extracted on my hard drive i can customize what runs after i install ubuntu with sysv-rc-conf but i was wondering what do i do to conf the livecd so that they are already disabled i am following the livecdcustom wiki
[04:45] <mwhite> Ubuntu does not have rpm?
[04:45] <jinho> does anyone know how to go about installing a rpm?
[04:46] <Hobbsee> !+rpm
[04:46] <ubotu> rpm is, like, totally, the Redhat Package Management file. Very similar to Debians DEB files, but require alien to install. ask me about !alien
[04:46] <gmmech> I get command not found???????
[04:46] <crimsun> gmmech: how about ``lspnp -v'' ?
[04:46] <jadaz87> mwhite no ubuntu is debian based so it uses deb files
[04:46] <mwhite> oh ok.. thanks
[04:46] <gmmech> lspnp: /proc/bus/pnp not available
[04:46] <jadaz87> !tell mwhite about alien
[04:46] <jinho> for Enlightenment, If I want to install it, would I use the Linux i386 Binary RPM or the Debian GNU/Linux DEB stuff?
[04:47] <mwhite> I'm sorry about all the questions. I'm new to the Linux world :)
[04:47] <crimsun> gmmech: what specific computer (make & model) is this?
[04:48] <gmmech> toshiba tecra 8000 pII 366
[04:48] <nickrud> jinho, debian debs, definitely
[04:48] <nickrud> jinho, erm, debs, ubuntu debs I mean
[04:48] <sonicjam> Hobbsee: i'll type this in sudo tar -Cd desktop -x -z -v -f firefox-1.5.0.1.tar.gz
[04:48] <jinho> nickrud good to see you again
[04:48] <wil_> mwhite-to install java you should use synaptic package manager --go to system -administration then synaptic
[04:48] <gmmech> I can paste you the dmesg
[04:49] <Hobbsee> ah yeah, that might work...
[04:49] <nickrud> jinho, likewise, I'm sure :)
[04:49] <jramsey> is there an irc channel for kernel device driver development?
[04:49] <jinho> nickrud: after rebooting the screen cleared up again
[04:50] <chirag> what debian package is the file stdio.h located in?
[04:50] <jinho> nickrud: now....how would I go about installing the DEB package?
[04:50] <sonicjam> Hobbsee i got this tar: You must specify one of the `-Acdtrux' options
[04:50] <sonicjam> Try `tar --help' or `tar --usage' for more information.
[04:50] <chirag> when I try to compile my kernel, it can't find stdio.h
[04:50] <crimsun> jramsey: irc.oftc.net, #kernelnewbies
[04:50] <jinho> nickrud: in advance, I really appreciate all the help you're giving/ have given
[04:50] <mwhite> should I use the Java provide by sun, or the one listed in Synaptic?
[04:51] <mwhite> I already hava java-common installed
[04:51] <nickrud> jinho, for enlightenment? I'm not sure where you can get them, although I know they exist. gnomefreak had a working e17, I'd look for his advice
[04:51] <chirag> mwhite: I'd use the one in Synaptic
[04:51] <jinho> nickrud: I have the DEB
[04:51] <wil_> mwhite I could only get the synaptic one to run
[04:51] <jinho> nickrud: but I dont know how to use it...
[04:51] <blazemonger> ouch
[04:51] <nickrud> jinho, all in one directory, all by themselves?
[04:51] <agar> hey, has anyone come across sound issues?? my new installation of ubuntu has dete?cted the sound card but does not play any
[04:51] <blazemonger> i was running theme and gnome freaked out ehehehe
[04:51] <mwhite> and you have only java-common, java-gcj-compat installed?
[04:52] <Hobbsee> !tell agar about sound
[04:52] <blazemonger> means i need to do some debugging
[04:52] <jinho> nickrud: The file sitting on my desktop says: enlightenment_0.16.7.2-1_i386.deb
[04:52] <cafuego> nickrud: I wonder if he runs Duke Nukem Forever on his e17 ;-)
[04:52] <jinho> nickrud: I'm not sure whether that is one file or a bunch of them
[04:52] <nickrud> cafuego, you card :)
[04:52] <nickrud> jinho, you have that in ubuntu, no deb's needed :)
[04:52] <jinho> nickrud: lol really?
[04:52] <wil_> mwhite it is blackdown java and is working well
[04:53] <nickrud> jinho, sudo apt-get install enlightenment (it's the old version)
[04:53] <agar> thanks hobbsee
[04:53] <jinho> nickrud: would this be 0.16?
[04:53] <agar> shall have a look and see what happens
[04:53] <jinho> nickrud: either way awesome
[04:53] <jinho> nickrud: thanks!
[04:53] <nickrud> jinho, .16, yes, not .16.9999
[04:54] <blazemonger> where do i view the gnome system log
[04:54] <mwhite> hmm..under All in Synaptic I do not see blackdown Java
[04:54] <nickrud> jinho, np, enlightenment 16 was my very first window manager, it had a lot to do with my sticking with linux. Sliding desktops, yum!
[04:54] <jinho> nickrud: ...would you happen to know where to find it?
[04:54] <jinho> nickrud: same with me, its the only reason I've been trying to run linux
[04:54] <blindx> Anyone ever notice how creepingly similar comparing monitor size is to comparing penis size?
[04:54] <nickrud> jinho, no, not the new one. gnomefreak is usually around about 12 hours from now
[04:55] <jinho> nickrud: he would know?
[04:55] <jadaz87> 	hello everyone i was wondering how can i shutoff services on the livecd while it is extracted on my hard drive i can customize what runs after i install ubuntu with sysv-rc-conf but i was wondering what do i do to conf the livecd so that they are already disabled i am following the livecdcustom wiki
[04:55] <crimsun> gmmech: there's nothing in your bios for PnP?
[04:55] <nickrud> jinho, yes, he bragged. Call him on it :)
[04:55] <sonicjam> Hobbsee: did you saw the last message i sent
[04:55] <jinho> nickrud: lol okay
[04:55] <jinho> nickrud: thanks!
[04:55] <gmmech> like I said it's OLD
[04:55] <gmmech> lol
[04:55] <Hobbsee> blindx: that's not necessary in a support channel, thanks
[04:56] <Hobbsee> sonicjam: see !cli, and man tar - i'm not very good with tar files...
[04:56] <blindx> then it's not necessary to address it again -.-
[04:57] <sonicjam> ok
[04:57] <sonicjam> operating linux is harder than i tought
[04:57] <Dr_Willis> Life is harder then I thought.
[04:57] <nickrud> and then you die.
[04:58] <Dr_Willis> and hopefully you dont get in trouble afterwards for all the warez.
[04:58] <jadaz87> does anyone know the answer to my question? i asked in #ubuntu-devel and they told me to come here
[04:58] <nickrud> sonic2, have some fun, learn something, make someone like you.
[04:58] <crimsun> gmmech: try: ``sudo modprobe snd-opl3sa2 isapnp=0 dma1=1 dma2=0 fm_port=0x388 midi_port=0x300 irq=10 wss_port=0x530 port=0x370''
[04:58] <AAA> all my warez is gpl'd =p
[04:58] <nickrud> god, I some times hate tab completion in xchat
[04:58] <wil_> mwhite  do a search for java in synaptic
[04:58] <Lycade> Hmm, I take it the default music player can't play winamp radio stations?
[04:59] <mwhite> k
[04:59] <Lycade> Anyone know if xmms does? >.>
[04:59] <Xaero_Vincent> Ubuntu Dapper is under feature lock.. by the time its released in June, all its packages will be outdated... so is there going to be a big update by the time it's released?
[04:59] <Apostle^> Lycade: it does.
[04:59] <nickrud> jadaz87, the live cd is meant to be a test, or example of ubuntu. Not something that you customize while it's running
[05:00] <wil_> mwhite  sun-j2re1.5
[05:00] <driggers> hi.  i have ubuntu on a toshiba laptop and i have an external HD.  i want to boot windows xp off a small partition on that drive... i have no clue where to start.  i don't even know if this has anything to do with the fact that ubuntu is my main os
[05:00] <jadaz87> nickrud exactly that is why i want to customize the iso while i have it extracted
[05:00] <Dr_Willis> Xaero_Vincent,   its a catch-22 situation.   either way ya lose. :(
[05:00] <mzuverink> What do I need to do to get spamassassin to work, I just installed it but it is not working?
[05:00] <driggers> like... could i make the windows partition on the HD from my ibook instead?  then run it on the toshiba?
[05:01] <Hobbsee> Xaero_Vincent: they wont be that outdated.  ask in #ubuntu+1
[05:01] <sto6ma9ch> Hello?
[05:01] <Xaero_Vincent> Hobbsee some packages are already outdated.. im just looking on distrowatch :/
[05:01] <nickrud> jadaz87, I see. you want to create a custom live cd. I don't know much about that, so I'll simply shut up :)
[05:01] <Lycade> Now to find out how to install xmms as well. -_-
[05:01] <Hobbsee> Xaero_Vincent: you find that on anything stable...
[05:02] <jedx23> How can i run a irc server?
[05:02] <jedx23> off of my linux system
[05:02] <Dr_Willis> jedx23,  installl one, start it up.. :P
[05:02] <jedx23> like what one
[05:02] <jedx23> i have no ideal what to get
[05:02] <Dr_Willis> Google would be the place to look.. WHY you want one is the big question.
[05:02] <nickrud> nickrud looks to his left: buggy new stuff (I'll run debian unstable). He looks to his right: stable working stuff (I'll run ubuntu recent)
[05:03] <Dr_Willis> theres se4veral different irc servers out.. some are for just goofing off with and playing around.
[05:03] <jedx23> because i wanna host my own server thats the hole point of linux and i'm sick of windows Errors
[05:03] <Dr_Willis> freshmeat.net will have a list also.
[05:03] <facugaich> jedx23, you can try searching in synaptic with universe and multiverse enabled
[05:03] <Dr_Willis> You got a lot of friends you want to invite over to your own irc server?
[05:04] <jedx23> yeah like 1000 friends
[05:04] <jedx23> they hate Scoobynet
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> gee.. asking them to come to freenode is too hard eh? :P
[05:04] <gmmech> I changed the irq to 5 cuz I know that fro checking th bios but used that and checked the lspnp with same results
[05:04] <jedx23> all they do is cuss and sexual harrass 15 year olds
[05:05] <gmmech> man this is frustrating because I know it;s something small
[05:05] <jinho> nickrud: another question
[05:06] <gmmech> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12271
[05:06] <jedx23> Plus everyone tould me linux would be the best way to host a irc server
[05:06] <jedx23> your own server that is
[05:06] <gmmech> lol
[05:06] <nickrud> jinho, I always have answers, sometimes I bite my tongue because I know I'll be wrong, but it's your dime
[05:06] <gmmech> that is VERY ISP dependant
[05:06] <jinho> nickrud: I dont seem to have superuser privileges
[05:07] <jinho> nickrud: I want to edit etc/apt/source.list
[05:07] <mwhite> I think I found my problem
[05:07] <nickrud> jinho, type groups in a terminal, if admin shows up you should have admin privileges
[05:07] <jinho> nickrud: but it says its read-only
[05:07] <mwhite> I need  GTK, Version 2.2.1 or later
[05:07] <nickrud> jinho, gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and enter your password
[05:08] <blindx> Case sensitivity blows.
[05:08] <wil_> mwhite sorry can[t help
[05:08] <jinho> nickrud: interesting
[05:09] <nickrud> jinho, which :)
[05:09] <jinho> nickrud: I am admin, but why can't I edit source.list?
[05:09] <mwhite> ok np. that must mean that Ubuntu doesn't come with GTK?
[05:09] <blindx> if a system is case sensitive, then you should be able to have the following to files in the same directory: foo.jpg and FOO.jpg
[05:09] <jinho> nickrud: in the ubuntu forums one of the instructions for installing E17 says to edit that file
[05:09] <jadaz87> Goodnight All
[05:09] <jedx23> do you think unreal would be good for host a server?
[05:09] <nickrud> jinho, when you type    sudo echo hi      what happens?
[05:09] <jinho> nickrud: which is why I am somewhat puzzled
[05:10] <jinho> nickrud: hi \n [1] + Killed    xchat
[05:10] <AAA> blindx  yes
[05:10] <blindx> yes what?
[05:10] <jinho> nickrud: \n meaning its on the next line...
[05:10] <AAA> you can have both of those files in the same directory
[05:10] <blindx> ...really?
[05:10] <blindx> wow.
[05:10] <nickrud> jinho, then gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list should work
[05:10] <AAA> no, just kidding
[05:10] <blindx> that would get really confusing.
[05:10] <blindx> LOL
[05:10] <blindx> you ass
[05:11] <mwhite> anyways thanks for the help you all. This is frustrating but fun. :)
[05:11] <AAA> seriously, you can
[05:11] <jinho> nickrud: interesting...but the file is empty now
[05:11] <jinho> nickrud: (do you mind if I ask what gksudo and gedit mean?)
[05:12] <gmmech> gedit is the basic text editor
[05:12] <facugaich> !gksudo
[05:12] <ubotu> Use gksudo to run gtk applications with root privileges. Using sudo to start gtk apps can scramble your user account permissions.
[05:12] <nickrud> jinho, gksudo is a request to run the following command as administrator ; gedit is the command to run as admistrator, and it is a text editor
[05:12] <gwkw> hi all
[05:12] <nickrud> jinho, and /etc/apt/sources.list should definitely not be empty
[05:12] <jinho> nickrud: strangely it is...
[05:13] <gwkw> i am new to ubuntu, i was just wondering.. is there a way to upgrade 4.1 to 5.1?
[05:13] <AAA> having a case sensitive fs is a very good and logical thing.  winders has made lots of strides to bastardized the logic unix created. take the \ for example...
[05:13] <nickrud> jinho, type, in a terminal, cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:13] <jinho> nickrud: all the stuff showed up
[05:13] <echo> ok... nother stupid question
[05:13] <nickrud> blindx, AAA was not kidding, FOO.PNG is not the same file as foo.png
[05:13] <jinho> nickrud: but when I do the gksudo and gedit command...its empty...
[05:13] <gwkw> ??
[05:13] <echo> how do i edit xorg.conf file????
[05:14] <nickrud> jinho, so you are mistyping something
[05:14] <dibblego> sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:14] <echo> ty
[05:14] <jinho> nickrud: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:14] <nickrud> jinho, yes
[05:15] <nickrud> dibblego, you shouldn't recommend sudo for running gui apps, it may mess up permissions in the home directory.
[05:15] <nickrud> dibblego, if they change a preference and save it
[05:15] <jinho> nickrud: so weird...its still empty
[05:15] <echo> ok another question...
[05:15] <dibblego> nickrud: righto
[05:15] <nickrud> jinho, try sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:16] <AAA> cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:16] <echo> how do i restart xorg w/o restarting computer
[05:16] <dibblego> CTRL-ALT-F1
[05:16] <facugaich> ctrl+alt+backspace
[05:16] <AAA> echo  /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[05:16] <dibblego> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[05:16] <dibblego> startx
[05:16] <echo> ty again
[05:16] <facugaich> oh, well
[05:16] <jinho> nickrud: cat /etc/apt/sources.list shows everything as it should be
[05:16] <nickrud> dibblego, I went round and round on that, everyone said that but no one said why: gksudo env | sort and sudo env | sort shows the reason
[05:17] <jinho> nickrud: I've checked my spelling 100 times over...
[05:17] <Apostle^> what desktop mixes speed with eye candy? xfce ?
[05:17] <AAA> jinho  then just vim /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:17] <nickrud> jinho, then do as AAA said
[05:17] <AAA> jinho  you have to use sudo before, by apologies
[05:17] <lancellor> hi guys a simple question
[05:18] <jinho> AAA: It appears in the terminal
[05:18] <lancellor> should i install ubuntu and upgrade to the dapper or wait until dapper comes out
[05:18] <AAA> jinho  ok, you are just trying to enable multi/uni verse, correct?
[05:18] <LathropWells> users shows that i am logged in three times?
[05:18] <jinho> nickrud: / AAA am I able to edit this like any other doc now?
[05:18] <gmmech> crimsun did you see my paste file????
[05:19] <nickrud> jinho, precisely, that's where you are going. You want to add those e17 sources
[05:19] <AAA> jinho  vim is a bit different, you want to arrow down to the # that is in front of the line containg multiverse and hit x (that will delete that charachter) so far so good?
[05:19] <luisito> hello guys
[05:19] <jinho> AAA: yeah
[05:19] <gwkw> one question for whoever that is free
[05:20] <gwkw> if some hardware dont have the driver for linux what should we do?
[05:20] <gwkw> create our own driver?
[05:20] <AAA> jinho  do the same to the universe line, then type --> :wq (that will write and quit the file) then do apt-get update
[05:20] <Lycade> Is there a way to tell ubuntu to open the cd-rom drive? >.>
[05:20] <AAA> gwkw  what hardware?
[05:20] <Lycade> My button quit working after copying some files..
[05:20] <AAA> Lycade  eject -r
[05:20] <Lycade> Thanks
[05:20] <Apostle^> Lycade: use sudo with that
[05:20] <gwkw> erm.. its actually for my wireless card and sound card
[05:21] <jinho> AAA: any line that has multiverse?
[05:21] <nickrud> Lycade, right clicking the cdrom icon on your desktop & selecting eject should work as well
[05:21] <jinho> AAA: because I see a few that say both universe and multiverse
[05:21] <Lycade> There isn't anything there on the right click. =/
[05:21] <AAA> jinho  one is for deb-src the other for deb, unless you plan to build packages from source you prolly don't need that, but it worn't hurt
[05:21] <jinho> AAA: like breezy universe
[05:21] <Lycade> Then again, I tried from the directory
[05:21] <Lycade> I'll check desktop..
[05:21] <jinho> AAA: so just from deb?
[05:22] <luisito> I'm having an error when login, and I don't know how it comes. It says that my $HOME/.dmrc file have wrong permissions and that it should be owned by me and have 644 permissions but I checked and it is right. Any clues?
[05:22] <AAA> jinho  iirc that file is commented fairly well, but yes that is what you do
[05:22] <gwkw> my wireless card is an Apacer usb flash drive and wireless usb , 2 in 1
[05:22] <gwkw> so..
[05:22] <AAA> luisito  sudo chown user.user (where user is your login name) ~/.dmrc
[05:23] <jinho> AAA: my apologies its just that this is literally my first experience with linux
[05:23] <luisito> AAA, ok, let me try
[05:23] <jinho> AAA: so I'm a bit wary having so much power :-)
[05:23] <gwkw> anyway i be back.. just downloaded 5.1 goign to install it now.. c you guys later.
[05:23] <gwkw> have fun
[05:23] <AAA> gwkw  there _may_ be drivers for it. I suggest doing lsusb (with the device plugged in) and paste that into google
[05:23] <Lycade> nickrud - it worked from desktop, thanks. Now back to installing WoW
[05:23] <AAA> jinho  welcome to *nix
[05:24] <gwkw> ok thanks AAA
[05:24] <nickrud> jinho, lol, that's what it's all about. I gotta close up for the night, AAA seems to have you well in hand
[05:24] <gwkw> i will be back...
[05:24] <jinho> nickrud: thanks so much for the help though, no doubt you'll be seeing more of me in the future :-)
[05:24] <jinho> nickrud: goodnight
[05:25] <nickrud> jinho, see you about. Remember: Everything in linux is transparent, it's all about learning where to look.
[05:26] <jinho> nickrud: I'll be sure to keep that in mind
[05:26] <jinho> AAA: now that did all that
[05:26] <iceman> anyone installed ubuntu using scsi drives ?
[05:26] <jinho> AAA: am I supposed to just do: sudo apt-get enlightenment?
[05:27] <AAA> jinho  apt-get update (this will make the changes aware to system) then you can apt-cache search foo
[05:27] <iceman> how much hdd space for a base install
[05:27] <jipijones8> hey
[05:27] <linux_user400354> im having a problem installing limewire. could someone help? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12273
[05:27] <jipijones8> whats the nickersev register command?
[05:27] <tonyyarusso> Anyone used bootchart on Breezy?  I can't seem to figure out how to make it go.
[05:27] <AAA> jinho  you have to update your apt database first, then you can search or install from the multi/uni
[05:27] <jinho> AAA: I see
[05:27] <AAA>  /nickserv register name passwd
[05:28] <jipijones8> linux_user400354, your not even using ubuntu are you?
[05:29] <linux_user400354> yes i am using ubuntu
[05:29] <tuxuser19> i have just installed ubuntu on my pc.i want to login as root i cant do that in ubuntu!i heard that ubuntu by default wont activate root.how to activate root privilages
[05:29] <michael117> What website can I use to paste fairly large error messages?
[05:29] <jinho> AAA: apt is where I can get my upgrades from?
[05:29] <jipijones8> linux_user400354, then you must get the tar.gz not the rpm
[05:29] <facugaich> tuxuser, sudo
[05:29] <jinho> AAA: or is it much more than that- which I'm sure it is
[05:29] <facugaich> tuxuser: 'sudo [commands] '
[05:30] <facugaich> or sudo -s if you want a promt
[05:30] <jipijones8> linux_user400354, when u get the tar.gz, extract to your desired place for limewire to be installed, and do - sh runLime.sh in the folder
[05:31] <facugaich> nights ppl
[05:32] <prospero2005> tuxuser19 I can help with that
[05:32] <gmmech> brb
[05:32] <dreamer_> 
[05:32] <dreamer_> 
[05:32] <tuxuser19> i have tried that it doesnt work i get "sudo: unable to llokup <username> via gethostbyname()
[05:33] <arrick> his /etc/hosts file is corrupted
[05:34] <Warbringer87> Whats a good FTP client for ubuntu?
[05:34] <jinho> dreamer anyoung
[05:34] <michael117> I'm trying to compile a kernel for a small device but keep getting the following error message: http://pastebin.com/660899
[05:34] <dreamer_> hi there
[05:34] <Kuyaedz> Warbringe: gftp or use FireFTP Firefox plugin
[05:34] <arrick> Warbringer87,  PROFTPD
[05:34] <jinho> dreamer do you know how to enable korean text support?
[05:34] <Warbringer87> thnx
[05:34] <tuxuser19> prospero2005 what i have to do now ?
[05:34] <jinho> dreamer: I just installed ubuntu and I dont know how to enable korean typing
[05:35] <arrick> night all
[05:35] <dreamer_> then you can recognize korean?
[05:35] <jinho> dreamer yeah
[05:35] <dreamer_> installing navi is the best choice
[05:35] <Warbringer87> is  gftp compatible with ubuntu?
[05:35] <jinho> dreamer how do you do that?
[05:35] <SusPec1> hi
[05:35] <dreamer_> hold on....
[05:35] <cafuego> recognising isn't too hard, _understanding_ is ;-)
[05:35] <Kuyaedz> Warbringe: yes.
[05:35] <Dr_Willis> Warbringer87,  you mean the gnome ftp client gftp?
[05:35] <AAA> jinho  that is it really. when you change your sources.list, run apt-get update, if you want to upgrade all packages run apt-get upgrade, if you want to search use apt-cache search <pkg> if you wanna install apt-get install <pkg> remove? apt-get remove <pkg> easy as pie :)
[05:35] <SusPec1> i still dont understand how to install a rpm file
[05:36] <SusPec1> and i dont know how to open the files i installed with wine
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> SusPec1,  use alien, convert it to a deb, dpkg -i whatever.deb
[05:36] <AAA> SusPec1  why? on a .deb system? there is prolly a .deb for it, otherwise use alien
[05:36] <tuxuser19> help needed still waiting for my sudo/root prob ;(
[05:36] <dreamer_> jinho
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> SusPec1,  wine /home/username/.fake_windows/program files/program.exe :P
[05:36] <dreamer_> refer this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KoreanSetupHowto
[05:36] <SusPec1> show me a example command please
[05:37] <AAA> tuxuser19  sudo -s then passwd
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> or whatever wine dir uses.
[05:37] <jinho> AAA: Thank you
[05:37] <arrick> tuxuser19, your /etc/hosts file is corrupted,
[05:37] <SusPec1> wine: cannot find '/home/username/.fake_windows/program
[05:37] <jinho> AAA its installing now
[05:37] <SusPec1> tahts what is said
[05:37] <SusPec1> thats*
[05:37] <jinho> dreamer: thank you too, I will do that
[05:37] <dreamer_> k
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> SusPec1,  now is where you 'think'  and look and see what dirs are there and use the right paths
[05:38] <tuxuser19> /etc/hosts or /etc/sudoers ?
[05:38] <arrick> probably both actually
[05:38] <SusPec1> oh so i type wine: /home/suspect/then what
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> SusPec1,  wine uses some 'directory' thats its own little windows type dir.  cd  into it, and see whates there.
[05:38] <SusPec1> the file is aim
[05:38] <AAA> tuxuser19  the hosts file has 0 to do with sudo
[05:38] <SusPec1> i want to test taht out
[05:38] <SusPec1> that
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> use the shell and see what dirs are there.
[05:38] <tuxuser19> AAA thats what I thought
[05:38] <SusPec1> locate aim?
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> and i doubt if AIM will work very well .
[05:38] <misguided> "Can't find kernel build files in [anywhere I set KBUILD to, even though I've unpacked the kernel source into /usr/src/] "
[05:39] <arrick> AAA, not according to what fixed one last night, with the error he had earlier
[05:39] <AAA> tuxuser19  and the sudoers file only delegates privs to non-root users
[05:39] <SusPec1> then what about xfire?
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> SusPec1,  'ls -al' will show all the dirs. incoudien the hidden ones.
[05:39] <SusPec1> or internet explorer 6
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> SusPec1,  thats just sick :P using IE.
[05:39] <SusPec1> i type -al it was a command not found
[05:39] <AAA> SusPec1  or you can do find .fake_windows (this will show you all the files and dir's in that directory)
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> there is a program on freshmeat that sets up IE in wine for ya.
[05:39] <tuxuser19> AAA whats the solution?
[05:40] <Dr_Willis> SusPec1,  'ls -al' will show all the dirs. including. the hidden ones.
[05:40] <resin> lmao SusPecl
[05:40] <SusPec1> oh
[05:40] <arrick> AAA, according to this "sudo: unable to llokup <username> via gethostbyname" if you look at his /etc/hosts, you wont find a host name , and sudo wont work after you config /etc/sudoers
[05:40] <misguided> anyone got any suggestions for me?
[05:40] <AAA> tuxuser19  to activate the root account? do sudo -s (gives you a root-like shell) and issue the cmd passwd (chage the root passwd)
[05:40] <Dr_Willis> it maybe time to go read a few bash tutorials. and learn the basics of the shell.
[05:40] <sonicjam> hey hobbsee i got fire fox installed
[05:40] <sysop_> my ubuntu keeps freezing.  i've installed it 3 times now
[05:40] <SusPec1> ok i typed the command
[05:40] <SusPec1> i see a whole bunch of things
[05:40] <SusPec1> a list
[05:40] <SusPec1> = D
[05:40] <AAA> arrick  incorredct
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> start THINKING about what you are doing. :P see any named .fake_windows or .wine or similer eh?
[05:41] <arrick> ok, we even had the guy signed in under root, and he couldnt do anything last night
[05:41] <SusPec1> but i want to know if i can install IE
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> I use cedega. it may differ.
[05:41] <tuxuser19> i get the same error  "sudo: unable to llokup <username> via gethostbyname"
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> SusPec1,   Yes i hear you can.
[05:41] <SusPec1> you have to pay for cedega
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> Cedega is comercial so yes.
[05:42] <SusPec1> LoL
[05:42] <AAA> is that the pasted error? "llokup" <--- like that?
[05:42] <dreamer_> does anyone know what the initial root password is?
[05:42] <SusPec1> anyways
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> !sudo
[05:42] <ubotu> from memory, sudo is a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[05:42] <SusPec1> now how do i install IE?
[05:42] <SusPec1> i ahve wine installed
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> SusPec1,  no clue. I wouldent EVER want to do such a thing.
[05:42] <arrick> !root
[05:42] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[05:42] <SusPec1> have
[05:42] <tuxuser19> actually it was my error stmt which arrick copied :)
[05:42] <SusPec1> i dont know wheres the root on ubuntu
[05:42] <SusPec1> all i know is terminal
[05:42] <dreamer_> ubotu thx
[05:42] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, dreamer_
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> SusPec1,  theres not. :P  he just asked Faq #1
[05:42] <SusPec1> oh
[05:42] <sonicjam> ubotu is an bot
[05:42] <ubotu> sonicjam: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:42] <SusPec1> lol
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> !root
[05:43] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[05:43] <sethk> I wish it wouldn't say that.  the root password is not locked
[05:43] <sysop_> can anyone help me/ ?  my ubuntu freezes
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> its 'locked out' :P
[05:43] <SusPec1> so how do i install internet exlorer six
[05:43] <SusPec1> i saw a tutorial but i dont understand it
[05:43] <sysop_> the keyboard stops responding, the screen hangs, bout the mouse responds
[05:43] <AAA> SusPec1  cat http://sidenet.ddo.jp/winetips/
[05:43] <sethk> no it isn't, it just hasn't been set.
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> SusPec1,  i would guess ya download the insteller and wine installer.exe Like ya do everything else.
[05:43] <sethk> there is no impediment to setting it.
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> sethk,  yea - i agree
[05:43] <SusPec1> wine:
[05:43] <SusPec1> witht he :<<<
[05:44] <SusPec1> with the :<<<
[05:44] <sysop_> i've got amd64 breezy
[05:44] <AAA> sidenet is a fairly ok script for installing wine with directx and ie and all that junk
[05:44] <SusPec1> wine with the colons beside it?
[05:44] <SusPec1> wine:
[05:45] <iceman> Installing ubuntu on 7x 2.5 gig scsi harddrive wonder how hard it may be
[05:45] <AAA> iceman  like taking beer from a baby =p
[05:45] <SusPec1> Willis?
[05:45] <misguided> can anyone help me with my problems with kernel build source files?
[05:45] <AAA> misguided  possibly, what are you trying to do?
[05:45] <iceman> SusPec1 willis who
[05:45] <SusPec1> Dr_Willis
[05:46] <misguided> trying to compile the latest stable ndiswrapper
[05:46] <SusPec1> i dont get this step
[05:46] <SusPec1> Use gksu -u windows xterm to open a shell as the windows user.
[05:46] <sysop_> the guy who convinced me to go to ubuntu said he's never seen it freeze up ever.  why is mine?
[05:46] <SusPec1> i dont know what to do there
[05:46] <iceman> Build a 850 Pentium 3 ... and use 10 x  2.5 gig scsi harddrives .... lol ...
[05:46] <michael117> I'm trying to compile a kernel for a small device but keep getting the following error message: http://pastebin.com/660899
[05:46] <AAA> misguided  *eewww* ndis is teh suck. what is the compile problem?
[05:46] <misguided> when i Make, I get "Can't find kernel build files" even though I've downloaded and unpacked them
[05:46] <SusPec1> can someone tell me what to do in that step?
[05:47] <SusPec1> Use gksu -u windows xterm to open a shell as the windows user.
[05:47] <sonicjam> is the terminal case sensetive
[05:47] <dreamer_> sonicjam ok
[05:47] <void^> sonicjam: yes
[05:47] <SusPec1> but what do i do there?
[05:47] <sonicjam> ok no wonder :P
[05:48] <AAA> misguided  I think you may have to config the kernel first, AND make sure it is a symlink to /usr/src/linux  the first thing to do is see what /usr/src/linux points to if it even exists
[05:48] <Dr_Willis> SusPec1,  ive neer heard of a 'windows' command or 'user'  no clue where thats comming from of what you are even trying to do.
[05:48] <arrick> hey what is the ubotu wiki page?
[05:48] <SusPec1> ok ima give youa  link
[05:48] <SusPec1> http://www.liewcf.com/blog/archives/2006/04/install-internet-explorer-6-on-linux/
[05:48] <Dr_Willis> I imagine you need to reread and start from the beginning.
[05:48] <Plitskin> hi, where can I get help on how to setup Java SDK on Ubuntu?
[05:48] <Dr_Willis> Or check freshmeat.net for that program that automates it
[05:48] <arrick> !java
[05:48] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[05:49] <Dr_Willis> I cant think of any good reason to install IE6 with wine.
[05:49] <SusPec1> but its just t test if it works
[05:49] <SusPec1> and i wanna see how it is
[05:49] <SusPec1> so what do i do in that step?
[05:50] <SusPec1> the 3rd step
[05:50] <Dr_Willis> No clue. :P looks like they are refering to a 'windows' user that was made earlier.
[05:50] <misguided> i already established a symbolic link from /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/build to /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.12/, so i know it points to where i unpacked it... but I can specify the KBUILD variable at the command line when i Make anyways and I can't seem to point it at the kernel source.  *sigh*  what files specifically is it looking for?  in my source dir i have a Makefile and a bunch of directories with a bunch of .c fi
[05:50] <SusPec1> aww man
[05:50] <SusPec1> but do you know a wat i can install IE6
[05:50] <SusPec1> ?
[05:51] <SusPec1> way*
[05:51] <blindx> why would you install IE6?
[05:51] <Dr_Willis> try just downloading the ie installer.exe and run it with wine.
[05:51] <SusPec1> apt-get ie installer.exe?
[05:51] <iceman> wish i could install and run Ubuntu from a fat 32 drive
[05:51] <AAA> misguided  ok. unlink that and do this, cd /usr/src ; ln -s linux-source-2.6.12 linux
[05:51] <Dr_Willis> SusPec1,  'think' :P
[05:51] <blindx> lol suc
[05:51] <blindx> sus*
[05:51] <Apostle^> good to be back on gnome
[05:51] <Apostle^> kde is slow as molasses
[05:52] <AAA> misguided  also note that your modules tree is of a differtent kernel tree
[05:52] <SusPec1> invalid operation 'ie'
[05:52] <iceman> install... and run Ubuntu from fat32 using loanlin .... anyone know a howto
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> SusPec1,  GO to the MS site.. download the IE installer and run it with wine.
[05:52] <blindx> rofl
[05:52] <AAA> iceman  zipslack ?
[05:52] <SusPec1> ms?
[05:52] <SusPec1> send me a link
[05:52] <SusPec1> please
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> www.google.com
[05:52] <blindx> ...
[05:52] <blindx> www.microsoft.com
[05:52] <blindx> wtf
[05:52] <SusPec1> og
[05:52] <SusPec1> oh
[05:52] <iceman> AAA zipslack has a lot of broken librarys in x ... ?
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> for the last time - start THINKING.
[05:52] <blindx> wow.
[05:52] <AAA> iceman  and OLD hehe
[05:52] <SusPec1> who?
[05:53] <misguided> AAA what do you mean when you say my modules tree is of a different kernel tree
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> You SusPec1. You are asking questions that if you toought about for 5 sec. you would realize the answer.
[05:53] <iceman> guess i could try "zipslack" with a older x package list ...
[05:53] <AAA> misguided  look carefully and the 2.6.x (x number) the modules are for .10 and your source is for .12
[05:53] <SusPec1> ok god
[05:53] <SusPec1> = \
[05:53] <blindx> Dr_Willis, what do you mean? IE isn't available through the repositories? :P
[05:53] <misguided> no, 2.6.12-10-386...
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> blindx,  guess not.
[05:54] <AAA> iceman  I was kidding/sarcastic about zipslack afaik it is not keep up to date
[05:54] <blindx> rofl
[05:54] <luisito> AAA, it didn't work (.dmrc error)
[05:54] <arrick> Dr_Willis, sethk check out !root
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> blindx,  Linux needs to get on the ball and include IE!
[05:54] <misguided> they're both .12, i'm not sure what the -10 is for
[05:54] <wdennis> how does one enable mod_perl on my apache2 inst?
[05:54] <arrick> !root
[05:54] <ubotu> somebody said root was By default, the root password is "locked" in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[05:54] <blindx> lmfao.
[05:54] <arrick> is that better?
[05:54] <AAA> luisito  chmod 644 .dmrc
[05:54] <_jon> AAA, You'll find Linux jokes are better understood at the offtopic channel ;)
[05:55] <AAA> _jon  :)
[05:55] <mikebot> so is there any way to get WMVs with  DRM (Digital Rights Management) to play in totem?
[05:55] <dreamer_> !root
[05:55] <ubotu> somebody said root was By default, the root password is "locked" in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[05:55] <dreamer_> !wiki
[05:55] <Dr_Willis> Technicially would it be best to say "direct logging in by the root user, is disabled"
[05:55] <_jon> mikebot, I'm not sure of this, but my senses tell me no, But I think you could possibly convert it?  How?  I don't know =\  Sorry.
[05:55] <arrick> You want me to change it?
[05:55] <misguided> mikebot, i was going to experiment with trying to run DRM enabled media players in wine...  linux has no native support for *windows* media DRM
[05:55] <dreamer_> !ls
[05:55] <ubotu> ls is probably the command used to LiSt the contents of a directory in Linux.
[05:56] <SusPec1> oh one more question
[05:56] <dreamer_> !sudo
[05:56] <ubotu> I guess sudo is a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[05:56] <blindx> lol.
[05:56] <SusPec1> how do you run the files through terminal?
[05:56] <blindx> Which files?
[05:56] <SusPec1> like .exe
[05:56] <AAA> SusPec1  what are you trying to do now ...
[05:56] <Dr_Willis> SusPec1,  you have been running files that way 'ls' for example
[05:56] <michael117> Does anyone know how to fix this error: http://pastebin.com/660899
[05:56] <blindx> wine program.exe
[05:56] <Dr_Willis> and ive told ya SEVERAL times the 'wine whatever.exe' command.
[05:56] <SusPec1> the command is confusing though
[05:56] <AAA> SusPec1  .exe are not in the proper binary format to run natively on *nix!
[05:57] <mikebot> arghhh
[05:57] <mikebot> so no drm at all?
[05:57] <mikebot> no programs?
[05:57] <wdennis> hello all
[05:57] <SusPec1> dont act smart with me
[05:57] <blindx> how is the command confusing?
[05:57] <wdennis> how does one enable mod_perl on my apache2 inst?
[05:57] <blindx> SusPec1, i really don't think you should have linux.
[05:57] <SusPec1> im new ta this
[05:57] <blindx> apparently.
[05:57] <SusPec1> so shush
[05:57] <_jon> AAA, There should be a giant disclaimer on the boot of Ubuntu "*Warning* Linux is NOT Windows.  Have a good day! :)"
[05:57] <blindx> so am i
[05:57] <Dr_Willis> SusPec1,  you have been shown several examples and need to pay attention is bottom line.
[05:57] <blindx> it's my second day on linux :P
[05:58] <arrick> !root
[05:58] <ubotu> hmm... root is By default, the root password is "locked" in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[05:58] <sethk> SusPec1, there is usually an alias named "dir", if that makes you feel better
[05:58] <SusPec1> me too
[05:58] <_jon> mikebot, Google might find a few things as far as converting the DRM locked wmas...
[05:58] <arrick> ouch
[05:58] <SusPec1> ive just been asking how to open wine files
[05:58] <arrick> hang on
[05:58] <SusPec1> tahst all
[05:58] <SusPec1> thats
[05:58] <SusPec1> i know how to do everything else
[05:58] <Dr_Willis> you mean a 'windows binary executable'
[05:58] <SusPec1> yes
[05:58] <blindx> no, he means wine files!
[05:58] <misguided> mikebot, it's dependent on windows media drivers that aren't available for linux...  so as far as i know the only way to even dream of doing it is to try and run it through wine and suck up as many native dlls as you can.  i'm going to try this myself in the next couple days regarding Janus DRM 10 wmas which there is definitely no crack for.
[05:58] <SusPec1> ?
[05:58] <Dr_Willis> You said earlier that you installed aim. so how did ya do that?
[05:58] <SusPec1> like wine aim.exe
[05:58] <arrick> !root
[05:58] <ubotu> I guess root is Direct logging as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[05:59] <AAA> alright n00b's  my kids are taking over my monitor for their movie pleasures.  be good n00b's and break your box before I get back, just don't loose your Inet connection...
[05:59] <mikebot> misguided, ok, thanks
[05:59] <arrick> !language
[05:59] <SusPec1> its with the colons right?
[05:59] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[05:59] <_jon> SusPec1, What colons??
[05:59] <SusPec1> :
[05:59] <SusPec1> that
[05:59] <arrick> Dr_Willis, that better?
[05:59] <Dr_Willis> ive never entered any colons.
[05:59] <SusPec1> wine:
[05:59] <misguided> mikebot, part of the reason that no one is rushing to try and hack this support into linux is because it technically violates linux's license.  because of the way GPL works.  it's more an ideological issue though, people who support free software are generally against drm as a rule
[05:59] <SusPec1> corect?
[05:59] <SusPec1> correct
[05:59] <blindx> bi
[06:00] <resin> lol, this is hilarious
[06:00] <blindx> no*
[06:00] <Dr_Willis> Better
[06:00] <_jon> SusPec1, If you have an .exe named "bob.exe" and it's in your home folder.  cd to your home folder and type in wine bob.exe
[06:00] <mmmiiikkkeee> i would really apreashite if some one coudl look at my xorg.conf file http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12275
[06:00] <SusPec1> cd ~?Home
[06:00] <resin> do you all deal with this stuff everyday? :P
[06:00] <arrick> night all
[06:00] <blindx> SusPec1, i really think you should just install windows and call it a day.
[06:00] <mmmiiikkkeee> i am hainga lot of tuble getting dual monitors to work with it
[06:00] <_jon> resin, This is only a bit of it ;)
[06:00] <SusPec1> i dont have the wxp cd
[06:00] <blindx> I'll mail you one.
[06:00] <resin> i can only imagine
[06:00] <_jon> resin, and what's worse is I do this for free.
[06:00] <resin> lol
[06:00] <SusPec1> and im tired of wxp
[06:00] <SusPec1> i want vista
[06:01] <blindx> I'll get you a copy. Just.. stop using linux :P
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> :)
[06:01] <resin> SusPecl, you need to chill
[06:01] <resin> :P
[06:01] <_jon> SusPec1, Good luck running Vista on any hardware. ;)
[06:01] <SusPec1> ?
[06:01] <mmmiiikkkeee> tring ot configure MergedFB  ihave followed serval online guids
[06:01] <mmmiiikkkeee> but no love :(
[06:01] <SusPec1> you need a sertain motherboard for WV
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> I installed Windows98 on qemu :P
[06:01] <SusPec1> lol
[06:01] <SusPec1> W98 sucks
[06:01] <blindx> no way
[06:01] <blindx> 98SE ftw
[06:02] <resin> 3.1 ftw
[06:02] <SusPec1> ?
[06:02] <_jon> Dr_Willis, That's hott ;)
[06:02] <blindx> 3.1 haha
[06:02] <SusPec1> hoho
[06:02] <misguided> hey, here's a question:  how come sudo accepts my password and su says authentication failure???
[06:02] <Gau> DOS 6.0 ftw
[06:02] <_jon> ubotu, tell misguided about root
[06:02] <resin> touche
[06:02] <SusPec1> what
[06:02] <SusPec1> this is suspect_
[06:02] <_jon> misguided, Check out what ubotu sent you
[06:02] <blindx> oh no wonder.
[06:02] <_jon> misguided, If that doesn't explain it, ask a more detailed question.
[06:02] <SusPec1> lol
[06:03] <mmmiiikkkeee> i would really apreashite if some one coudl look at my xorg.conf file http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12275
[06:03] <blindx> lol...
[06:03] <SusPec1> ok...
[06:03] <blindx> appreciate. :x
[06:03] <Caminomaster> Hello
[06:03] <SusPec1> hi
[06:03] <mmmiiikkkeee> i really want mergedFB to work :(
[06:03] <misguided> ...oh.  huh.  well, it would have been a good idea for me to read that article since i've seen it linked like 4 times since i've been in here.  sorry guys :$
[06:03] <SusPec1> i wonder why rpm is not a command in terminal
[06:03] <SusPec1> hmm...
[06:03] <_jon> misguided, Nah, that's what ubotu is for ;)  He's a wonderful bot.
[06:04] <blindx> he is.
[06:04] <Kumo> hi guys, everytime I have to active my internet connection in System-Administration-NEtwork, could anybody tell me how to set it by default? thanks
[06:04] <_jon> SusPec1, Because Ubuntu is a debian based distro, it doesn't use RPM's
[06:04] <_jon> SusPec1, It uses .debs
[06:04] <SusPec1> oooooooh
[06:04] <misguided> so... what IS the root password then?  it alarms me that I don't know it.  or is it what I think it is, but the functionality is blocked?
[06:04] <Apostle^> Kumo: everytime you boot?
[06:04] <resin> Suspecl, read up on the different distros man
[06:04] <SusPec1> so i have to compile them correct?
[06:04] <Kumo> Apostle^: yes
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> misguided,  the initial user's password is the 'sudo' passwprd.
[06:04] <SusPec1> ok
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> SusPec1,  No.
[06:04] <SusPec1> paswprd
[06:04] <SusPec1> way o go
[06:04] <Apostle^> kumo pastebin /etc/network/interfaces
[06:04] <SusPec1> to*
[06:05] <_jon> misguided, It's not set, but Sudo replaces anything that you need to do as root, like to access a root write only file such as xorg.conf you do sudo nano -w /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:05] <mc|amb> hi, is there a way to hide the white background behind the notification are icons?
[06:05] <SusPec1> my name is Alex
[06:05] <blindx> suspec1: you really have no right to be correcting typos in this chatroom.
[06:05] <SusPec1> ok
[06:05] <SusPec1> stupid bitch
[06:05] <SusPec1> oops sorry
[06:05] <misguided> heh the problem with that is that i keep doing things that require root access but that i don't know the command line for, and i start doing it in x and i get the shaft. heh.
[06:05] <Caminomaster> The other night I was banned by an error "spam". I'm sorry bout that, was a "ctrl.C ctrl.V mistake. Forgiveme please
[06:05] <_jon> misguided, Haha, sudo will replace anytime you want root access.
[06:06] <AngryElf> is there a way to make tar include hidden files?
[06:06] <_jon> misguided, Just a weird tweak that Ubuntu has ;)  It was different to me too
[06:06] <mmmiiikkkeee> where should i go to get help with setting up dual monitors on an ATI all-in-wonder card???
[06:06] <Caminomaster> Anyone knows how to rip to MP3 with k3b?
[06:06] <misguided> absolutely, if you know what the command is to launch the program you need root write from...  if you don't it's more complicated :S
[06:06] <blindx> misguided, you can activate the root account and su will work for you. it should be at the bottom of the page that ubotu sent
[06:06] <_jon> misguided, What do you mean exactly?
[06:06] <jinho> hi I know I have enlightenment installed, but how would I get it to show?
[06:06] <Kumo> Apostle^: here you are http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12276
[06:06] <sethk> AngryElf, tar includes hidden files by default
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> Caminomaster,  i tend to use "Grip" to rip mp3's from cd. and k3b to burn mp3s to an audio cd.
[06:07] <_jon> jinho, Wasn't there directions to get it to show on the howto that you are hopefully on?
[06:07] <jinho> I still see the default gnome/human theme rather than enlightenment
[06:07] <jinho> _jon: yeah there were...
[06:07] <blindx> Any recommendations on a VCD burning program? (that can handle avi's?)
[06:07] <_jon> jinho, Did you follow them?  to the letter?
[06:07] <jinho> _jon: but that was how to install them
[06:07] <jinho> _jon: I used synaptic
[06:07] <SusPec1> im learing python
[06:07] <mc|amb> hi, is there a way to hide the white background behind the notification are icons?
[06:07] <SusPec1> learning
[06:07] <SusPec1> its real easy
[06:08] <lucifer> hey
[06:08] <jinho> _jon: and found that they are installed, but all I see is gnome still
[06:08] <sethk> SusPec1, python is an excellent language
[06:08] <SusPec1> yes
[06:08] <SusPec1> i learned alot
[06:08] <misguided> _jon: well, like, if i have a tar.gz that i want to extract somewhere the normal user doesn't have write access...  i have to use something like gzip instead of the archive manager that's built into ubuntu/gnome/x because i don't know the command line for that.  that's a bad example because i do know the command line for gzip...  i should think of a better one since it keeps happening.
[06:08] <SusPec1> since 2 days ago
[06:08] <jinho> _jon: forgive me, I'm still learning
[06:08] <mmmiiikkkeee> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12275  woudl really liek some help with getting this f-ing graphics card to do daul disply :(
[06:08] <Caminomaster> Willis: But can I rip with k3b? I think is possible but don't know which of the buttons can i try
[06:08] <mrstone> ugh, someone have any information on Ndiswrapper? I really need help guys
[06:08] <sethk> SusPec1, what's daking you so long?
[06:08] <SusPec1> on what?
[06:08] <_jon> jinho, We all are ;)  A quick google search gave me this link http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20216&highlight=e17
[06:08] <blindx> !ndiswrapper
[06:08] <ubotu> it has been said that ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[06:08] <sethk> taking, that is
[06:08] <sethk> SusPec1, just kidding, about python.
[06:09] <SusPec1> lol
[06:09] <SusPec1> oh
[06:09] <mrstone> blindx: thank you
[06:09] <_jon> misguided, Isn't it to extract a tar .. just tar optionshere file.tar.gz?
[06:09] <blindx> no problemo
[06:09] <jinho> _jon: haha
[06:09] <blindx> Any recommendations on a VCD burning program? (that can handle avi's?)
[06:09] <jinho> _jon: thats the same forum post that got me into this hairy mess
[06:09] <SusPec1> abs(a)#sqrt(a.real**2+a.imag**2)
[06:09] <SusPec1> haha
[06:09] <vars> hey what about the in2tv deal     how can you watch that with ubuntu?
[06:10] <misguided> _jon yeah I said it was a bad example... the point is I can't use anything with a graphical interface by putting sudo in front of it in the terminal if i don't know the command line to start it
[06:10] <sethk> misguided, you can either do:  gunzip whatever.tar | tar xf
[06:10] <_jon> jinho, *laughs* well did you create a file called e17.desktop in /usr/share/xsessions/
[06:10] <sethk> misguided, you can either do:  gunzip whatever.tar | tar xf-   sorry
[06:10] <_jon> and put these lines in it? [Desktop Entry] 
[06:10] <_jon> Encoding=UTF-8
[06:10] <_jon> Name=e17
[06:10] <_jon> Comment=
[06:10] <_jon> Exec=enlightenment
[06:10] <_jon> Icon=
[06:10] <sethk> misguided, or, you can use the convenience option, tar xvzf
[06:10] <_jon> Type=Application
[06:10] <jinho> _jon: I cant even edit my sources.list still
[06:10] <jinho> _jon: I can delete stuff in vim but vim doesnt seem to work like a normal editor
[06:10] <resin> jinho: why not?
[06:10] <resin> oh
[06:10] <blindx> I got the same problem :P
[06:10] <resin> use another editor then
[06:10] <blindx> I just use gedit
[06:10] <jinho> _jon: when I type i seem to be screwing up stuff
[06:10] <resin> pico or nano
[06:10] <misguided> heh i know all these command lines for that particular situation, that's why i'm not sitting here wondering what the heck is the command for such and such?  the problem is, when i don't...
[06:10] <jinho> gedit
[06:11] <iceman> AAA cant seem to get X installed and complete librarys working in zipslack ... lot of stupid errors ..
[06:11] <_jon> jinho, Vim = Not my suggestion, try nano
[06:11] <jinho> I think what it is is that Im still confused about the file structure
[06:11] <jinho> I'm still stuck in c:\ land
[06:11] <mooor> hello
[06:11] <jinho> and am finding the root structure to be a bit confusing
[06:11] <_jon> misguided, Ooo, well, mostly it's self explainitory.  use gksudo for graphical applications.
[06:11] <VSFH> Anyone happen to know off the top of their head a url to like an 'ubuntu bible' or the like ?
[06:11] <mooor> man gdb or man ddd puzzled me
[06:11] <iceman> missing librarys ... when x runs.... errors in releation to x ... and the x screen links ..
[06:11] <_jon> jinho, You'll get used to it ;)  Eventually.
[06:11] <mrstone> is there a way to uninstall Ndiswrapper completely? I get a fatal error whenever i go modprobe ndiswrapper
[06:11] <mooor> how can i use gdb or ddd to debug my c program?
[06:11] <jinho> _jon: heh no doubt
[06:12] <VR_> jinho: http://www.secguru.com/files/linux_file_structure.jpg
[06:12] <mooor> i get segmentation fault
[06:12] <mooor> :(
[06:12] <Plitskin2> hi I got disconnected, please tell me again the site on how to setup J2SE on Ubuntu
[06:12] <Plitskin2> thanks
[06:12] <SusPec1> i wonder why i cant download the aim.deb file from aim.com
[06:12] <SusPec1> ftp is all messed up
[06:12] <vars> _jon, what was all that enlightenment about?
[06:12] <jinho> _jon: awesome..nano does the trick
[06:12] <mrstone> VSFH: whenever i need help http://www.ubuntuforums.org
[06:12] <Caminomaster> Dr_willis: I found a rip mode!
[06:12] <misguided> like say you had to edit a file that the ordinary user doesn't have write access to...  you and i would just go sudo gedit file... but if you didn't know the command gedit, you only knew how to get to the editor from your menu in gnome... then you go to gedit and you don't have write privileges and you go what the hell is the console command to launch gedit!
[06:12] <jinho> _jon:is write out the same as saving though?
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> SusPec1,  you may just want to use 'gaim' and be done with it.
[06:12] <Kumo> Apostle^: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12276
[06:12] <SusPec1> i know
[06:12] <_jon> jinho, Yes sir, just hit ctrl-O to save
[06:12] <VSFH> thanks mrstone. I'm on dialup but downloading Badger right now, looks like fun
[06:12] <SusPec1> im just saying
[06:13] <_jon> jinho, Then ctrl-x to exit
[06:13] <resin> <3 gaim
[06:13] <mrstone> VSFH: its great stuff
[06:13] <Caminomaster> Dr_willis: but I think I have to install first the plugin decoder
[06:13] <SusPec1> <3
[06:13] <jinho> _jon: awesome
[06:13] <Apostle^> Kumo: add ifconfig eth0 up to /etc/rc.d/rc.local
[06:13] <mrstone> I wonder when there is going to be a linux port of Miranda
[06:13] <jinho> _jon: stuff is finally making sense :)
[06:13] <Kumo> Apostle^: ok
[06:13] <blindx> misguided: so you do ALT+F2, gksudo gedit
[06:13] <_jon> vars, Enlightenment = A window manager  Gnome, Kde, Xfce = Window managers.
[06:13] <blindx> then file: open
[06:13] <VSFH> The philosophy about everything being free and available to redistribute and everything else said to me, most awesome
[06:13] <blindx> and find the file
[06:13] <SusPec1> hey so can i play music videos on ubuntu?
[06:14] <blindx> Any recommendations on a VCD burning program? (that can handle avi's?)
[06:14] <jinho> _jon: btw am i reading this right... "Add the following lines to /etc/apt/preferences
[06:14] <misguided> DUDE.  you don't know the command gedit.
[06:14] <SusPec1> from mozilla
[06:14] <resin> Suspecl, yes
[06:14] <jinho> _jon: you can have a file without an ending?
[06:14] <mrstone> SusPecl: yes, I recommend Mplayer
[06:14] <blindx> misguided. who are you talking to?
[06:14] <iceman> wish there were a linux installer for Ubuntu, that could run from "dos" fat 32 ...
[06:14] <_jon> jinho, Yea.  You can
[06:14] <resin> mplayer or vlc is nice
[06:14] <_jon> jinho, Something different from Windows :)
[06:14] <jinho> _jon: yeah lol
[06:14] <ringga> hi, I've got a kernel panic when trying to upgrade to kernel 2.6.16.1. The last message is : [4294670.197000]  kernel panic not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block (0,0)
[06:15] <_jon> jinho, Like, if I had a file "blah" and it was saved using a txt editor...it would auto open as a txt file.
[06:15] <VSFH> iceman, you might suggest it; it already exists with redhat, for example, or it may exist
[06:15] <mrstone> How can I completely uninstall Ndiswrapper?
[06:15] <vars> _jason,  is e17 out in the repos?
[06:15] <misguided> you blindx.  i'm trying to make the point that if you don't KNOW a command like 'gedit' (as in, what to type on the console to launch the program), you can't launch it with sudo or any variant of it.
[06:15] <SusPec1> this is what happens
[06:15] <SusPec1> We regret that Yahoo! Music videos are not currently supported for Macintosh. We are exploring ways to offer video on additional platforms, and hope youll check back as we make enhancements to the service.
[06:15] <SusPec1> For more information on Yahoo! Music Video system requirements, visit to the Music Video section of Yahoo! Music Help.Please use the following error code when writing to Yahoo! Help. (Error Code: 4)
[06:15] <SusPec1> oops sorry
[06:15] <SusPec1> spam
[06:15] <VSFH> ringga: then you have a serious problem. :)
[06:15] <blindx> if you don't know the command "gedit" then you probably should learn it, or stop using linux.
[06:15] <iceman> VSFH a dos "fat" way to install redhat ... and run rom fat32
[06:15] <vars> i have been using fluxbox and elightenment off and on
[06:15] <Kumo> Apostle^: that file didn't exist before, is that right?
[06:15] <Apostle^> Kumo: yes
[06:15] <_jon> blindx, Well technically it's a program ;)
[06:16] <sethk> ringga, that usually means the kernel is missing support for the root file system
[06:16] <blindx> _jon: ?
[06:16] <VSFH> iceman: there was a program to load linux kernel into a virtual FS inside fat32
[06:16] <ringga> Anyone knows why? I have similar grub settings as other kernels. Later I tried to make a initrd. But it doesn't work
[06:16] <_jon> blindx, gedit is a program\command
[06:16] <blindx> yes, i know that.
[06:16] <echostorm> hey guys :) does anyone have a quick page gor installing codecs quick and easy? i need my flac and mp3
[06:16] <ringga> I have had ext2 and ext3 compiled in.
[06:16] <blindx> gedit is the command, to open the program
[06:16] <misguided> blindx, lol, we're not talking about gedit specifically, i'm just trying to use it as a really shitty example of a problem
[06:16] <_jon> ringga, Did you manually install the kernel?  Or through repos?  Because if you did it through apt-get install it should set up automatically
[06:17] <blindx> lol misguided. well you learn quickly, trying to tweak, in any case.
[06:17] <jinho> how do I create a file in bash?
[06:17] <ringga> jon: I downloaded it from kernel.org
[06:17] <Kumo> Apostle^: it doesn't let me save it
[06:17] <misguided> heh well that's why i'm here.
[06:17] <iceman> VSFH loanlin will load and run linux from fat32... but getting linux there .... always wants to install to ext2 "ect..."
[06:17] <blindx> lol.
[06:17] <Apostle^> Kumo: did you use gksudo gedit ?
[06:17] <_jon> jinho, Umm, create what file?  You use a program to create a file...
[06:17] <iceman> VSFH i need a dos Installer ... :(
[06:17] <ringga> I configured it myself and compiled. make xconfig, make, make install, make modules_install
[06:17] <jinho> well
[06:18] <jinho> Add the following lines to /etc/apt/preferences
[06:18] <jinho> (If this file doesn`t exist, create it.)
[06:18] <jinho> (Don't know how necessary it is, but it worked for me.)
[06:18] <Kumo> Apostle^: sudo gedit
[06:18] <_jon> ringga, Ah, any reason why you would bother? =\
[06:18] <Apostle^> Kumo: odd, try using root, sudo su
[06:18] <jinho> _jon: those were the very explicit instructions...
[06:18] <VSFH> a dos installer... hmm.. why?
[06:18] <Geren> hi
[06:18] <blindx> jinho: you could just make that file with a text editor.
[06:18] <Geren> is there a reason for me to switch from fc5 to unbuntu ?
[06:18] <_jon> jinho, Ooo, gksudo /etc/apt/preferences or sudo nano -w /etc/apt/preferences
[06:18] <resin> jinho: open nano
[06:18] <Kumo> Apostle^: ok
[06:18] <misguided> but what i'm driving at is... is there no "right-click" or "shift-click" kind of functionality that will let you launch something from x instead of the terminal, get that graphical sudo "please type your password to run such-and-such" so that whatever you invoke from that has superuser privileges?
[06:18] <iceman> VSFH to get a intact directory map in fat32 ...
[06:18] <_jon> jinho, either way
[06:19] <blindx> or.. you could make the file with an echo command, but that gets tricky, and it's unnecessary
[06:19] <ringga> jon: I'd like a faster boot. And many modules comes with ubuntu are not useful.
[06:19] <_jon> jinho, When you open and save that file with stuff in it, it'll auto create.
[06:19] <_jon> blindx, K.I.S.S. as much as possible :)
[06:19] <jinho> I see
[06:19] <blindx> K.I.S.S. ?
[06:19] <jinho> you guys are so great ^^
[06:19] <_jon> blindx, Keep it simple, stupid. (not meant to be offensive)
[06:19] <blindx> hahah
[06:20] <iceman> VSFH or a way to copy and reconfig "ubuntu" to fat32
[06:20] <Kumo> Apostle^: again the same problem
[06:20] <blindx> i just like to throw out alternatives :P
[06:20] <misguided> blindx did you catch my msg above?
[06:20] <VSFH> you're not going to get linux to act appropriately inside a fat32 filesystem
[06:20] <blindx> nah, must have missed it
[06:20] <VSFH> specifically because fat32 sucks, and NTFS sucks more ;)
[06:20] <Kumo> Apostle^: I'm gonna create the file and them I'll move it to that folder
[06:21] <VSFH> Why don't you just partition some space or get a new or use an old harddrive and dual-boot ?
[06:21] <iceman> VSFH winlinux 2003 ... but outdated ... i need new hardware support in the kernel
[06:21] <misguided> blindx: damn, it was the whole reason we were talking about this!  [22:18]  <misguided> but what i'm driving at is... is there no "right-click" or "shift-click" kind of functionality that will let you launch something from x instead of the terminal, get that graphical sudo "please type your password to run such-and-such" so that whatever you invoke from that has superuser privileges?
[06:21] <blindx> Well.. you could... add gksudo gedit to the applications list.
[06:22] <blindx> then right click, run with other application
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> or make a launcher
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> Then again.  once ya got stuff set up right.. you dont need to be doing root-ish stuff that much.
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> :P
[06:22] <misguided> heh but the whole point is that you might not know the console command offhand to launch whatever you're launching from x
[06:23] <VSFH> you know what I just realized? You know you're a geek when on friday night, you have nothing to do, so you're downloading a new OS to install and play with.. sigh.
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> misguided,  thats why i dislike the use of the 'cute names' in the menus
[06:23] <resin> VSFH: amen.
[06:23] <tuxta2>  trying to build a src deb, cant build because of dependency libavcodec1-dev, but I have installed libavcodec-dev ,  how can I get it to use libavcodec-dev instead ??
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> misguided,  ive often added a menu item, to the panels, jist so i can check its properties and see what its really running.
[06:23] <VSFH> but, I take solace in the fact that i have not yet binded different uses for my keyboard LEDs.
[06:24] <misguided> VSFH:  good point. heh since I can't get this to stop sassing me and compile, maybe I'll stop ditching and go meet up with my friends
[06:24] <Luke> if i have an amd athlon xp 2400+ should i use the kernel-image-k7 or the kernel-image-i686?
[06:24] <iceman> Luke K&
[06:24] <Kumo> Apostle^: I don't have the folder rc.d but I have rc0.d, rc1.d, rc2.d....
[06:24] <Luke> k7?
[06:24] <VSFH> LOL, I don't have anyone to meet up with, you definitely beat me on geekdom -- troubleshooting an install and blowing off your friends in one shot. lol.
[06:24] <Luke> iceman: thanks
[06:24] <blindx> how can I get my monitor to run at 1280x1024 screen resolution, without running the reconfigure thing, cause that doesn't work.
[06:24] <iceman> Kumo there hidden
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> !fixres
[06:25] <ubotu> I guess fixres is Please read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:25] <iceman> blindx yes it does, you just have to learn hor to reconfigure the resolution settings
[06:25] <misguided> VSFH: true.  i've been putting off all my errands for most of the day too.  it's just so frustrating and it seems like it should happen right away as soon as I figure out what the crap is wrong...  but then I dont'.
[06:26] <resin> blindx: edit XF86Config-4 i think it is
[06:26] <resin> i use xorg so i forgot
[06:26] <_jon> blindx, You can edit it manually, sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf_backup sudo nano -w /etc/X11/xorg.conf  find where you see a list of resolutions...and add what you want there..
[06:26] <iceman> blindx when it ask about the resolutions to run in, you tell in t=no, and select your own for each screen setting ...
[06:26] <VSFH> misguided: I'm guilty of the exact same thing -- I can't ever stand the idea that the computer, a machine, is smarter than me, or has beaten me
[06:26] <Joetheodd> How can I make avi files play with aviplay by default instead of totem?
[06:26] <_jon> blindx, then restart X, if it fails, just sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf_backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:26] <ringga> jon: any ideas about my problem?
[06:27] <Kumo> iceman: I have comfirmed, no I don't have that /etc/rc.d
[06:27] <VSFH> Now, code, is something different altogether, but usually I can't stand not being able to get something to work
[06:27] <_jon> ringga, Well, besides the fact that I don't suggest building your own kernel unless you have a real reason, try rebuilding it..and be sure have all the options correct..
[06:27] <VSFH> what all installs are you coming up with  ?
[06:27] <VSFH> er, install errors  ?
[06:27] <iceman> Kumo cd /etc/rc.d/ try that
[06:27] <Althulas> is there dc++ for ubuntu ?
[06:28] <VSFH> Athulas -- see if there's a DC++ for debian and start with that
[06:28] <misguided> I just can't get make convinced that I have the kernel source and am pointing it at it.  :S
[06:28] <Althulas> well linux in general
[06:28] <fiendskull9> hey guys
[06:28] <Althulas> im trying to get my step sister to switch
[06:28] <Althulas> and she needs it
[06:28] <TecnoVM64> Althulas, search ubuntuforums.org there's a post about how to install it (and yes, there is)
[06:28] <Kumo> iceman: yes, I don't have that folder
[06:28] <VSFH> athulas - yeah, there's DCGUI for one, I don't know about others cuz I've been off of it for almost 2 years
[06:28] <Althulas> sweet
[06:29] <Althulas> thanbk you
[06:29] <fiendskull9> what was Athulas trying to do?
[06:29] <sethk> misguided, put the kernel where make is expecting it.  Most likely /usr/src/linux-2.6....
[06:29] <TecnoVM64> install DC++
[06:29] <fiendskull9> ahh
[06:29] <fiendskull9> automatix does that, but automatix is crap
[06:29] <fiendskull9> lol
[06:29] <VSFH> I thought automatix was supposed to rock ?
[06:29] <TecnoVM64> eh no
[06:29] <Ric> how will i create and manage users in xubuntu?
[06:29] <_jon> VSFH, It screws up many installs.. =\
[06:29] <fiendskull9> lol
[06:29] <fiendskull9> !automatix
[06:29] <ubotu> [automatix]  unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[06:30] <VSFH> (I'm going on what I read off of pcworld -- I haven't gotten it downloaded yet)
[06:30] <mbelgedhes> is anybody here knowing config of ubuntu kernel ?
[06:30] <_jon> VSFH, I avoid it.  I'll just do my own installs for things I need.
[06:30] <Plitskin2> hi, why do I get this error message when installing JDK?
[06:30] <_jon> VSFH, For the easier stuff, but it has less options..try Easyubuntu
[06:30] <misguided> well it apparently expects a symbolic link, which i created.  and then that didn't work.  so i tried specifying the KBUILD variable on the command line and it still didn't work.  so i'm sitting here wondering if i even have the complete source... i downloaded and untarballed it from the repository...
[06:30] <Plitskin2> E: Couldn't find package java-package
[06:30] <VSFH> I thought that, just by the basic idea of it, but hey, if its open source, you never know how intelligent the code may be
[06:30] <aloon> whats the easiest way to get ubuntu to be able to mount a second hard drive that is for storage and is already partitioned?
[06:30] <VSFH> or unintelligent... see Windows. :)
[06:30] <fiendskull9> the only reason i ever use it is for gamepad installer and easy way to install JRE
[06:30] <blindx> Even after editing my xorg.conf file, my resolution won't show.
[06:30] <blindx>  :\
[06:30] <VSFH> put it in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab... I don't remember which
[06:30] <Kumo> iceman: what can I do? can I reinstall something to have that folder?
[06:30] <_jon> blindx, Did you edit it correctly?  Why don't you pastebin your xorg?
[06:31] <blindx> I know my monitor can handle 1280x1024 though.
[06:31] <sethk> /etc/fstab
[06:31] <_jon> blindx, And .. also, did you restart Xorg?
[06:31] <sethk> mtab is a transient structure that goes away when you reboot
[06:31] <blindx> _jon: I edited it once, and it worked, but it was at 43hz
[06:31] <blindx> and was blinking. so i edited it again
[06:31] <iceman> Kumo reading ... see what i can find out
[06:31] <blindx> and haven't been able to get it back to 1280 :\
[06:31] <aloon> systemsettings shows the harddrive but it has no mount point
[06:31] <_jon> blindx, Ah.
[06:31] <resin> blindx: drivers installed? did you try a reboot?
[06:31] <Ric> help!
[06:31] <_jon> blindx, Do you have the right drivers? yeah what resin said.
[06:31] <VSFH> I couldn't recall which one was dynamic and which one static
[06:31] <fiendskull9> aloon, open Gparted and find out what the device is named, and do sudo mount <device name, probably hdb or sda> /media/HD2
[06:31] <blindx> yeah, I've rebooted a few times..
[06:31] <_jon> Ric, What is the help needed for?
[06:31] <Kumo> iceman: ok, thanks
[06:31] <blindx> and no, i probably don't have the correct drivers.
[06:31] <resin> what about drivers though?
[06:32] <resin> well thats your problem most likely
[06:32] <resin> lol
[06:32] <aloon> yes its hdb  thank you
[06:32] <blindx> i don't know what kind of monitor i have. it doesn't have any.. markings..
[06:32] <Ric> how will i create and manage users in xubuntu?
[06:32] <resin> you need drivers for your video card
[06:32] <resin> not monitor
[06:32] <fiendskull9> aloon, np. i beleive there is a way to mount it every boot, hold on
[06:32] <blindx> it's an onboard.
[06:32] <_jon> blindx, Not your monitor silly ;)  Monitors are for kids.  What kind of onboard?
[06:32] <fiendskull9> !tell aloon about ntfs
[06:32] <mbelgedhes> useradd -m -g users,audio name-user
[06:32] <iceman> Kumo try /etc/X11/rc.d
[06:32] <aloon> my main question was how to get kde to see it as mountable
[06:32] <blindx> uh. i haven't a clue :x the computer's a dell
[06:32] <fiendskull9> read that link, and subsitute ntfs for whatever your file system is
[06:33] <resin> probably intel then
[06:33] <_jon> blindx, What kind of Dell? You can google it :)
[06:33] <fiendskull9> aloon, oh, i dunno how to mount in kde.
[06:33] <blindx> it's black
[06:33] <resin> yea, google your dell model and look at specs
[06:33] <blindx> lmfao kidding
[06:33] <blindx> uh shit lemme find out what my model is.
[06:33] <fiendskull9> blindx, it should say on the power button, in an arch circle thing.
[06:33] <iceman> who hass dell issue
[06:33] <mbelgedhes> Dell known as a difficult branded PC
[06:33] <fiendskull9> very
[06:33] <VSFH> Aren't all dells one model? (target practice with a large caliber rifle)
[06:33] <_jon> iceman, No one, we are just trying to figure out his graphics card ;)
[06:33] <fiendskull9> if your gonna do store bought linux pc, go with ibm or gateway
[06:33] <aloon> mount hdb
[06:34] <iceman> what card ?
[06:34] <blindx> dimension 3000, thanks fiendskull9
[06:34] <VSFH> Dell's arent as terrible as Gateway or the mother of all bitches, Aptiva
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> Or go to Monarch Computers and order one with Linux :P
[06:34] <iceman> onboard ...
[06:34] <_jon> VSFH, Hahaha, or a paintball gun, in the case of me :)
[06:34] <Kumo> iceman: no, I don't have it either
[06:34] <fiendskull9> Its most definately an Intel 8685G
[06:34] <resin> yea, but search just to make sure
[06:34] <_jon> VSFH, Have you tried Acer?  That is, ... before they went out of buisness?  ... Aptiva is a queen compared to Acer...
[06:34] <fiendskull9> iceman, if its an inspiron dell its gonna be an 8685G
[06:34] <ruth> alguien sabe de servers en espaol
[06:34] <iceman> what cpu in the dell
[06:34] <VSFH> _jon: my family used to run a computer shop (years ago) and my stepdad paid this couple to take their aptiva and back over it several times with an el camino
[06:34] <_jon> !es
[06:34] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:34] <fiendskull9> ruth, no espanol.
[06:34] <resin> Acer went out of business?
[06:34] <ruth> ya lo se
[06:34] <resin> heh
[06:35] <mbelgedhes> just cat /proc/cpuinfo
[06:35] <_jon> ruth, Por Favor usen #ubuntu-es
[06:35] <blindx> um. now, the drivers from dell.com aren't gonna work, cause they're for windows. or will they? :\
[06:35] <_jon> resin, Well...maybe as a full computer maker
[06:35] <_jon> resin, I think they still make parts =\
[06:35] <VSFH> from google
[06:35] <VSFH> Acer Co. Ltd.
[06:35] <VSFH> Acer ranks among the world's top five branded PC vendors.
[06:35] <VSFH> lol.
[06:35] <fiendskull9> blindx, intel.com
[06:35] <fiendskull9> blindx, support/download center
[06:35] <_jon> VSFH Ew ;(  They are back XD
[06:35] <resin> yea, i was going to say, i could of swore i seen acer products on newegg
[06:35] <fiendskull9> blindx, desktop motherboards.
[06:35] <Kumo> iceman: I have searched for a folder called that way in the system but I don't have any
[06:36] <_jon> VSFH, resin, Perhaps I'm behind in the times... =\
[06:36] <fiendskull9> blindx, then do your model, then choose Debian, itll be there for GFX card
[06:36] <resin> hehe
[06:36] <_jon> VSFH, resin, Well back in the day, we bought a 2,000 dollar Acer model, I don't know which one, and that thing was dead before it got out of the box.
[06:36] <VSFH> _jon: Aptiva is the worst I ever found because of their minitowers -- have you seen these super minitowers now? they're marginally bigger than laptops.. I can't imagine how very irritating it must be to work on
[06:36] <resin> _jon: that sucks :/
[06:36] <resin> get your money back i hope?
[06:36] <resin> :P
[06:37] <_jon> resin, Yes sir :)  Marched it right back.
[06:37] <Caminomaster> Dr_Willis: I found how to rip in k3b, HaHa, but was failed...
[06:37] <Caminomaster> Seems good
[06:37] <_jon> resin, Exchanged it for a compaq persario, (not much better but hey..)
[06:37] <resin> hehe, whatever works
[06:37] <_jon> resin, But now we are getting offtopic, so I digress.
[06:37] <_jon> ;)
[06:37] <fiendskull9> i just build my own computers
[06:37] <resin> agreed
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> Caminomaster,  :P i recall having GRIP set where it would rip as i put in the cd's and spit them out... it ripped as fast as i could change disks
[06:37] <fiendskull9> On topic peoples :P
[06:38] <_jon> Next Victim...I mean problem ;)
[06:38] <iceman> i have run linux from a dell ... but i install tothe onboard card .. then install nvidia drivers and use the nvidia card i have added
[06:38] <VSFH> worst packaged PC ever -- AMD k5 450mhz with the 100 mhz bus, and 64mb ram.
[06:38] <fiendskull9> lmao
[06:38] <resin> lol
[06:38] <blindx> Uh, I have no clue what to do with this file, now.
[06:38] <fiendskull9> VSFH, my Teamspeak server is worse
[06:38] <_jon> blindx, What file is it?
[06:38] <blindx> it's a tgz file.
[06:38] <blindx> i unpacked it
[06:38] <mbelgedhes> then
[06:38] <blindx> but.. what goes where, how do i install drivers?
[06:38] <VSFH> Here's a question that I'm almost sure I have the answer to. My terrible modem in this terrible PC is not even a pci or isa modem.
[06:38] <VSFH> What's the likelihood that it will be supported?
[06:39] <Dr_Willis> VSFH,  whats left then?
[06:39] <VSFH> (Check out Via's VT8235 chipset to see what I mean)
[06:39] <Gau> what kind of modem IS it?
[06:39] <_jon> VSFH, Can pigs fly?  If so, it *might* be supported ;)
[06:39] <Dr_Willis> its an AGP modem? :P
[06:39] <resin> VSFH: slim to none?
[06:39] <VSFH> essentially, yeah
[06:39] <fiendskull9> VSFH, 64 bit mobo. amd 350mhz, 100mhz fsp. and came with 16 mb of ram. now at 32mb.
[06:39] <_jon> blindx, What is your graphics card again?
[06:39] <fiendskull9> VSFH, its name is Igor
[06:39] <blindx> it's an intel
[06:39] <VSFH> I figure I'd have better luck with a winmodem, since my external viking was stolen
[06:39] <_jon> blindx, What model?
[06:39] <blindx> i don't know *what* it is.
[06:39] <_jon> fiendskull9, lol, nice name.
[06:39] <jedx23> where can i download Nvidia graphics card drivers
[06:39] <_jon> blindx, What's your Dell model again?
[06:39] <jedx23> For linux
[06:40] <fiendskull9> _jon, my money is on Intel 8685G
[06:40] <blindx> dimension 3000
[06:40] <_jon> fiendskull9 k.
[06:40] <jedx23> well i'm sure you know that lmao
[06:40] <resin> jedx23: nvidia.com
[06:40] <fiendskull9> !tell jedx23 about easyubuntu
[06:40] <VSFH> fiendskull: The 1st pc I used exclusively was a 16 mhz (yeah) 386.. I think it had 16 megs of ram at the very end, but that's probably wrong
[06:40] <iceman> may not have support in breezy for that dell Mobo onboard card ...
[06:40] <fiendskull9> resin, thatll get him nowhere, i dont think they have them there
[06:40] <jedx23> ok they have drivers for my nvidia geforce 4 mx440
[06:40] <resin> yea, they do :)
[06:40] <jedx23> ok
[06:40] <VSFH> probably more like 800 k, but I can't recall the end ramcount in my head, been too long ago
[06:40] <fiendskull9> resin, but hell have to compile them.
[06:40] <_jon> fiendskull9, I can't find anything on Intel 8685G =\
[06:41] <fiendskull9> jedx23, can you compile
[06:41] <resin> that is true
[06:41] <iceman> check intells website for the chipset ... and the check kernel support for the onboard card
[06:41] <VSFH> why oh why am I the last person on dialup?
[06:41] <jedx23> if there application available for linux and say red hat they work on ubuntu too right
[06:41] <Ric> help! how will i create and manage users in xubuntu?
[06:41] <fiendskull9> _jon, download center - Desktop Boards - 865 - 8685G(maybe b after G)
[06:41] <fiendskull9> hold on
[06:41] <iceman> dialup ouch .. i got a 3gig up and down pipe on wireless internet
[06:41] <fiendskull9> iceburgh__, nice
[06:42] <fiendskull9> i get around 2-3 gig down, and 1 gig up
[06:42] <VSFH> I live in the middle of BFE for the time being.. no highspeed available but satellite
[06:42] <fiendskull9> ouch
[06:42] <fiendskull9> i hate sattelite
[06:42] <resin> sucks
[06:42] <VSFH> yet one of my clueless friends (tho many years my senior) has his own t3 line where he lives..
[06:42] <iceman> VSFH "move" .... :)
[06:42] <VSFH> Donated, even
[06:42] <Caminomaster> Dr_Willis: I take it in mind... but I try one more time with K3b
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> Ric,  could learn how to do it with the shell. :P 'adduser' 'deluser'
[06:43] <VSFH> yeah, Vegas... and upgrade my pc. ;)
[06:43] <resin> mmm Vegas
[06:43] <fiendskull9> _jon, http://downloadfinder.intel.com/scripts-df-external/Product_Filter.aspx?ProductID=950&lang=eng
[06:43] <Caminomaster> Dr_Willis: I like few programs in my PC, but if it don't work...
[06:43] <VSFH> does ubuntu utilize grub exclusively, or can I still use lilo?
[06:43] <fiendskull9> _jon, if its not that, then go back and choose 865 chipset - 8685GBF
[06:44] <fiendskull9> !lilo
[06:44] <ubotu> fiendskull9: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:44] <fiendskull9> hmm
[06:44] <fiendskull9> VSFH, you can run a slackware mini install, go to menu, and choose install BootMGR
[06:44] <VSFH> I hated slackware :/
[06:44] <fiendskull9> VSFH, the mini disk is like 150 mb.
[06:44] <Ric> Dr_Willis: aren't there any user management app (w/ gui) for xubuntu?
[06:45] <jdsbluedevl> I'm having some trouble with the sound on my Dapper Flight 6 system
[06:45] <fiendskull9> VSFH, you dont need to install it tho. it boots to a main menu. and you choose what operation to do. and just choose install boot manager. itll detect the stuff.
[06:45] <jdsbluedevl> as in I don't have any right now
[06:45] <jdsbluedevl> my soundcard is SBLive CT4780
[06:45] <harisund> Has anyone here used Mathematica? I am looking for some FSF equivalent in Ubuntu, which can do *symbolic* computations (no, Octave can't)
[06:45] <Kumo> iceman: any help?
[06:45] <VSFH> bleh, I loved my lilo. at least I won't have to use special boot args any more
[06:45] <_jon> fiendskull9, Umm, could you help blindx with 3d acel?  Because I haven't the slightest clue where to start =\
[06:46] <_jon> fiendskull9, I'm an ATI man :(
[06:46] <iceman> the a application to unpackage a live cd to a full file system using win98
[06:46] <jdsbluedevl> it worked in Breezy, and it's broken in Dapper
[06:46] <iceman> Kumo no idea whats in rc.d ?
[06:46] <fiendskull9> _jon, me neither really. I use ati radeon. but i dunno.
[06:46] <_jon> fiendskull9, Same.
[06:46] <Kumo> iceman: no
[06:47] <driggers> harisund i've used maple 9.5 in fc3
[06:47] <driggers> but i couldn't tell you how to install it to save my life
[06:47] <harisund> driggers: Yes, maple is pretty good too, but you can't apt-get that right? Isn't it proprietary?
[06:47] <jdsbluedevl> does anyone know how I can fix my sound?
[06:47] <iceman> Kumo what u need access to in rc.d
[06:47] <harisund> driggers: maple is also what I use in school .. but I want to have some sort of a decent symbolic computation tool for Ubuntu
[06:47] <driggers> harisund, sorry i don't even know what apt-get is
[06:48] <linux_user400354> !pastebin
[06:48] <ubotu> methinks pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[06:48] <driggers> maple is comparable (some say better) than mathematica
[06:48] <harisund> driggers: ok don't bother. maple is basically not free..
[06:48] <Dr_Willis> Ric,  i tend to install ubuntu, then kubuntu-desktop, then xubuntu-desktop.. then.... :P i dont know. of course I got 1 user.. (me) :P
[06:48] <driggers> neither is mathematica
[06:48] <harisund> driggers: Yep, maple and mathematica are comparable, but they are not free..
[06:48] <driggers> maybe u thinking of maxima?
[06:48] <harisund> driggers: maxima? what is that?
[06:48] <Kumo> iceman: I was planning to add a command there but I cannot find it
[06:48] <_jon> Dr_Willis, xubuntu-desktop = Perfect for my P3.
[06:48] <harisund> driggers: that doesn't sound like anything I have heard before?
[06:48] <Ric> Dr_Willis: yeah, same for me.. :p
[06:48] <Dr_Willis> _jason,  i had gnome/ubuntu on my Pent1 - 100.
[06:48] <jdsbluedevl> hello, can anyone help me with my sound?
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> the install took foreve.r. but it worked ok.
[06:49] <linux_user400354> what can i do to fix this problem? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12278
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> night all.
[06:49] <iceman> Kumo trying to remember whats in rc.d ? folder ?
[06:49] <driggers> maxima and mupad are both symbolic, i'm pretty sure harisund.  you can google them i guess
[06:49] <driggers> harisund one or both of them are free i think
[06:49] <harisund> driggers: ah ha ! Thanks .. will check up on them.... yes, it looks like maxima is free..
[06:50] <driggers> isn't it a bit odd to have a single op bot?  i mean what if ubotu crashes?
[06:50] <_jon> driggers, A mod will restart him.
[06:50] <driggers> k
[06:50] <harisund> driggers: you know what, a couple of days back there was a netsplit.
[06:50] <harisund> driggers: and ubotu was indeed lost :D
[06:50] <iceman> Kumo try /usr/X11/xinit/xinitrc ?
[06:50] <jdsbluedevl> can someone help me?
[06:50] <misguided> OK, interestingly enough, I got ndiswrapper to compile and now the command does nothing at all...  "bash: /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper: /usr/bin/perl^M: bad interpreter: No such file or directory"
[06:51] <Kumo> iceman: ok
[06:51] <driggers> harisund no troll took controll and banned everyone?  maybe that's not possible... anyway, way off topic
[06:51] <harisund> driggers: join me in ubuntu-offtopic
[06:52] <fiendskull9> im out for awhile guys
[06:52] <fiendskull9> toots
[06:52] <Kumo> iceman: I don't have it either
[06:52] <Ric> xubuntu-desktop seems to lose the functionalities the original ubuntu system has.
[06:52] <PwcrLinux> Ubugtu is online as the bot
[06:52] <jdsbluedevl> can anyone read my messages?
[06:52] <bifodus> hello
[06:52] <smith_agent> hello
[06:53] <iceman> Kumo run MC and peek around ... i am tring to look at my Linux Complete book .. see what i can find ...
[06:53] <smith_agent> any person speak spanish?
[06:53] <Kumo> iceman: ok
[06:53] <harisund> iceman and Kumo: Care if I join in? Your topic looks interesting?
[06:53] <jdsbluedevl> hello?
[06:53] <sarcasticus> jdsbludevl, I can see you
[06:53] <jdsbluedevl> ok
[06:53] <sarcasticus> but that doesn't mean much
[06:54] <jdsbluedevl> I was getting worried that nobody was acknowledging me
[06:54] <bifodus> i'm having a hard time mounting a mac os x network drive...is anyone familiar with doing that?
[06:54] <iceman> harisund np ... i cant find /etc/rc.d/ ?
[06:54] <_jon> smith_agent, Por Favor usen #ubuntu-es por Espanol.
[06:54] <iceman> Kumo u have network support ?
[06:54] <jdsbluedevl> my OS is Dapper Flight 6, and my soundcard is SBLive
[06:54] <harisund> iceman: hang on .. let m check
[06:54] <jdsbluedevl> and I have no sound
[06:54] <jdsbluedevl> what else do you need?
[06:54] <Kumo> iceman: what exactly you mean?
[06:54] <aloon> whats the easiest way to get kde to be able to mount a secondary storage drive that is partioned, it says it is hdb1
[06:54] <_jon> jdsbluedevl, #ubuntu+1 for dapper
[06:55] <jdsbluedevl> ok
[06:55] <jdsbluedevl> thx
[06:55] <_jon> jdsbluedevl, np
[06:55] <sarcasticus> bifodus, how have you set up the drive
[06:55] <iceman> Kumo if you have a network card, you should have /etc/rc.d no network card, no need for it to install
[06:55] <linux_user400354> i did a "make check" before doing a "make install" to do a test. im getting some errors so i know the make install will not work. how can i fix it? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12278
[06:56] <Kumo> iceman: yes, I think I have one
[06:56] <harisund> iceman, Kumo: I don't there even exists a /etc/rc.d in a Debian (or rather a Sys V based) system
[06:56] <bifodus> i haven't...i think maybe i've got the filesystem wrong...
[06:56] <bifodus> i was trying hfs
[06:56] <harisund> What are you looking for, iceman?
[06:56] <iceman> harisund where does ubuntu put the network rc.d folder ...
[06:57] <sarcasticus> is the drive in an OS X box, or are you trying to access it from and OS X box
[06:57] <PwcrLinux> linux_user400354: did you burned onto CD?
[06:57] <iceman> Kumo try /home/rc.d
[06:57] <Kumo> harisund: I cannot find that folder
[06:57] <Kumo> iceman: ok
[06:57] <bifodus> yeah, it's in an OS X box
[06:57] <harisund> iceman: If you are looking for networking commands, it is in /etc/init.d/networking and then there are simlinks to that in /etc/rc1.d , /etc/rcS.d ...
[06:57] <bifodus> a remote server
[06:57] <linux_user400354> pwcrlinux, no
[06:58] <bifodus> i'm doing 'sudo mount -t nfs host:directory mountpoint'
[06:58] <iceman> harisund figures Linux Complete out of date ... :(
[06:58] <bifodus> er, hfs instead of nfs, i mean
[06:58] <bifodus> (neither seemed to work, however)
[06:58] <PwcrLinux> linux_user400354: Okay then install CD seem bad. try other install CD if you ordered a bundles..
[06:58] <Kumo> iceman: it doesn't exist
[06:58] <iceman> harisund he may need rc1.d
[06:58] <harisund> iceman: Hmm probably. But things are done differently on Ubuntu. There is a /etc/init.d foldeer
[06:58] <harisund> iceman: I agree.. rather he miht need rcS.d ..
[06:59] <harisund> where the scripts are execued any runlevel no matter what
[06:59] <iceman> harisund tell him try that
[06:59] <iceman> Kumo try /etc/rcS.d
[06:59] <Kumo> I do have that
[06:59] <jedx_23> How do i find files i download off of X-CHAT
[06:59] <Kumo> iceman: I do have that
[06:59] <harisund> Kumo: Here's the deal. Every start up script is in /etc/init.d Depending on which run leve you are, scripts with S in them get started and scripts with K in them get stopped.
[07:00] <imbrandon> jedx_23: probbly in ~/.xchat
[07:00] <sarcasticus> bifodus: I access a linux box from an OS X box (the opposite of you). I've found SMB to be the most desirable networking protocol.
[07:00] <Kumo> harisund: ok
[07:00] <harisund> however, scripts in /etc/rcS.d get executed (started or stopped) during boot time
[07:00] <iceman> Kumo probably the Newer directory for newer linux distros ... lie the disaperance of the old xf86config .. now xorgconfig
[07:00] <resin> jedx_23: /home/<uname>/.xchat2/downloads
[07:00] <bifodus> do i need to install any additional packages, sarcasticus?
[07:00] <cppnewbie> hey guys. i just installed ubuntu 64 bit but my repositories are messed up. what can i do to fix em? :)
[07:01] <sarcasticus> bifodus: I have accessed my OS X laptop from the other way round using ftp
[07:01] <imbrandon> cppnewbie: just edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:01] <wdennis> happy easter everyone  <><
[07:01] <cppnewbie> imbrandon: and put what in them? thats the problem :P
[07:01] <resin> not easter yet wdennis :/
[07:01] <_jon> resin, He's gone :)
[07:01] <PwcrLinux> also, don't forget the .xchat is hidden dir :)
[07:01] <imbrandon> !repositories
[07:01] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[07:01] <resin> yea, just noticed, heh
[07:01] <bifodus> thanks, sarcasticus...i'll try SMB and see if i have any problems
[07:01] <iceman> harisund rc.d was the network modules ... looks like ubuntu uses rcS.d ...
[07:02] <sarcasticus> bifodus: my roommate says that you would need to make the user IDs identical on both systems to make NFS work
[07:02] <cppnewbie> imbrandon: even when i start synaptic i get errors. or better, warnings.
[07:02] <Kumo> harisund and iceman: so it means that I should add the file that I want in that directory starting with s like s(number)rc.local?
[07:02] <imbrandon> cppnewbie: follow the link ubotu pasted
[07:02] <harisund> Kumo: I don't think there is a rc.local . What you should do is this:
[07:02] <_jon> cppnewbie, The less popular backup the bear comes to mind here: "Remember kids, always cp yourself a backup before messing with repos :D" (sorry I can't be of more help)
[07:03] <Daskies> Anyone know of a good Java compiler for ubuntu?
[07:03] <harisund> Kumo: Create a script, call it something that doesnt' start with either upper case S or upper case K and put it in /etc/init.d
[07:03] <chirag> im having a problem getting my audio to work when i play dvds
[07:03] <chirag> it works for all of my music
[07:03] <PwcrLinux> Oooo iceman's quitmsg.. lol
[07:03] <bifodus> yeah, they're actually the same...when i try nfs it hangs, which is different from everything else i've tried (and seems to be more promising)
[07:03] <jedx_23> I downloaded my graphics driver and I can't find that either half the stuff i downloaded was on the desktop Now  there aint
[07:03] <bifodus> but it never actuallys mounts
[07:03] <bifodus> it just sits there
[07:03] <chirag> but i was wondering if anyone else has had a similar problem and could possibly help
[07:03] <cppnewbie> _jon: i never messed with the repositories. even when i started synaptic from the first installation the sources.list was screwed up :|
[07:03] <chirag> ?
[07:03] <harisund> And then go to rcS.d and create a symlink to your original fine, like this "sudo ln -s ../init.d/script Sscript"
[07:03] <_jon> cppnewbie, From a fresh Ubuntu 64 bit install? =\
[07:04] <Kumo> harisund: ok, so could be: /etc/init.d/rc.local
[07:04] <cppnewbie> _jon: ya
[07:04] <harisund> Kumo: I don't think that is going to work either.
[07:04] <_jon> cppnewbie, That's not right  Have you taken a look through the sources.list file and made sure there's no obvious errors?
[07:04] <Daskies> Anyone know of a good Java compiler for ubuntu?
[07:04] <harisund> Kumo: It will have to be in /etc/init.d and then the folder rcS.d should only contain simlinks to the files in /etc/init.d
[07:04] <Daskies> Yeah repetition
[07:05] <harisund> Daskies: I blieve you could use Sun java itself. Else I think there are gcc java and something called black down java (pardon me if I am wrong)
[07:05] <cppnewbie> _jon: i took a look but im not so experienced in sources.list files :P i cant say if its right or wrong :|
[07:05] <chirag> anyone have a problem with audio on ubuntu?
[07:05] <imbrandon> what kinda error / warning are you getting?
[07:05] <chirag> i can hear the audio for regular mp3s but not for DVD movies
[07:05] <_jon> cppnewbie, Can you paste bin it?  I'll look at it and attempt to see any obvious errors, no promises..oh yeah, and post any errors\warnings.
[07:06] <Caminomaster> Anybody: Why I can't rip in k3b?
[07:06] <_jon> Daskies,
[07:06] <_jon> apt-cache search java | grep compile
[07:06] <sarcasticus> anyone, I would like to flash my dvd drive with binflash. Trouble is, it seems to be 404. I'm on AMD64, so I'm not even sure I could use it if I had it.
[07:06] <cppnewbie> well _jon its in greek, does ur pc support the greek fonts? or could u even understand greek?
[07:07] <cppnewbie> i mean the errors/warnings
[07:07] <Kumo> harisund: honestly I'm kind of lost
[07:07] <_jon> cppnewbie, No, I don't understand Greek =\  But you could post it anyways...see if I can anything out of it.
[07:07] <_jon> can get*
[07:07] <harisund> Kumo: Yes, I expected that. Things arent going quite according to the book, are they?
[07:07] <Daskies> _jon, W: Couldn't stat source package
[07:07] <Daskies> _jon, Nice error
[07:08] <harisund> Kumo: Ok what basically is it that you are trying to do? (Sorry, I wasn;t around earlier .. but I still think I can help you out... kinda :D)
[07:08] <cppnewbie> i think its a problem with the greek mirror repositories. if someone could gimme their sources.list it would get fixed. I THINK!
[07:08] <_jon> Daskies, Thanks ;)  --> try this link http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-143290.html
[07:08] <chirag> Daskies: Can you help me out with a problem im having with sound on ubuntu
[07:08] <chirag> ?
[07:08] <_jon> chirag, Just throw the problem out on the table...
[07:08] <chirag> i did
[07:09] <_jon> chirag, I missed it =\  Lemme find it
[07:09] <chirag> i get audio for mp3s
[07:09] <harisund> chirag: I think you will need some special DVD libraris.
[07:09] <chirag> any idea where i can get them?
[07:09] <tcheloco> hallo
[07:09] <chirag> im new to this whole environment so im gonna need help on that
[07:09] <harisund> chirag: Are you sure you have the libdvdcss2 library (or something along those lines)
[07:09] <_jon> libdvdcss2 sounds right
[07:09] <chirag> i dont think i do actually
[07:09] <harisund> !dvd
[07:09] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[07:09] <tcheloco> any brazilian there?
[07:09] <mooor> how do i get those lines in my text file with 5 columns only?
[07:09] <chirag> thanks alot
[07:10] <Kumo> harisund: ok, thanks for your patience, everytime I log in I have to activate my network in System, Administration, Network
[07:10] <cppnewbie> _jon: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12279
[07:10] <chirag> thank you ubotu,_jon
[07:10] <chirag> and harisund
[07:10] <mooor> how do i use awk or grep in getting only those lines inside a text file with 5 columns only?
[07:10] <jedx_23> #lobby
[07:10] <harisund> chirag: No problem. Hope it works out. Kumo: What kind of a network is that? Wireless?
[07:10] <Kumo> harisund: when I activate it works fine but I don't know how to do it but default
[07:11] <nomasteryoda|w> can I add a source that uses lanuchpad's repositories?
[07:11] <Kumo> harisund: not wireless
[07:11] <_jon> cppnewbie, Yeah, your guess is as good as mine, What you said might be right, the Greek mirrors may not work...
[07:11] <Kumo> harisund: adsl
[07:11] <mooor> or is it easier using sed?
[07:11] <jedx_23> I still can't find that file
[07:11] <jedx_23> someone help me
[07:11] <jedx_23> please
[07:11] <cppnewbie> well then, think i can get a working sources.list from somebody?
[07:11] <harisund> Kumo: uh Oh, I am not too sure about ADSL.. Anyway.. hang on ..
[07:12] <_jon> cppnewbie, It won't have Greek on the programs.
[07:12] <sammo> my ubuntu installation freezes at 77% when ttf-bitstream-vera is configuring in the install process
[07:12] <cppnewbie> _jon: i really dont give a damn :)
[07:12] <Kumo> harisund: ok
[07:12] <_jon> cppnewbie, Well if it's a fresh install anyways ;), it might be easier to reinstall.
[07:12] <_jon> cppnewbie, But I know there *must* be an easier way.
[07:12] <harisund> Kumo: before anything at all, I am assuming you have asked Ubotu?
[07:12] <harisund> !adsl
[07:12] <ubotu> Setting up an ADSL PPPoE Connection? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ADSLPPPoE
[07:12] <cppnewbie> _jon: it wont make any difference to reinstall. the sources.list was screwed up from the first moment :|
[07:13] <jedx_23> hey sammo
[07:13] <Kumo> harisund: no
[07:13] <sammo> yo
[07:13] <jedx_23> Burn at a slower speed
[07:13] <_jon> cppnewbie, But I mean select the "English" as default language.
[07:13] <jedx_23> worked for me
[07:13] <dark_light> how can i setup my ip on the local network? i have an ip for internet, but not an ip on local network (i think)
[07:13] <dark_light> i want some config file or command or man page
[07:13] <cppnewbie> _jon: ah ya thats an idea. but y reinstall if all the thing is a sources.list ? :|
[07:13] <harisund> Kumo: that webpage has given some neato instructions fr configuring adsl connectin. Would you like to check that out? It might just work, without your having any head aches. (Hopefully)
[07:13] <sammo> i have the legit cd, it installed on the laptop, but it wont install on my main box
[07:13] <_jon> cppnewbie, Yeah, there's an easier way :|  I just don't know how to do it =\
[07:14] <cppnewbie> if u got a working sources.list pastebin it and ill overwrite. except if its chinese language(the packages) or something
[07:14] <Kumo> harisund and ubotu: ok thanks, I'll try it now
[07:14] <_jon> cppnewbie, Oo h wait!
[07:14] <_jon> cppnewbie, Check it out :)
[07:14] <_jon> cppnewbie, http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[07:14] <harisund> Kumo: Yes, please do (and I will pray it works out :D ) .. lets see ..I will be around for a while longer .. besides, you could always come back under the hope that some one might assist you again ..
[07:14] <mooor> any help for me?
[07:15] <Kumo> harisund: ok, thank you very much for your help
[07:16] <sammo> anyone else with another idea of how to fix installation?
[07:16] <cppnewbie> _jon: what does it mean by 2 letter code of your country? :|
[07:16] <harisund> Kumo: don't thank me yet .... let's see if it works ..
[07:16] <_jon> cppnewbie, Just type in "us" to get an English version that'll "hopefully" work.
[07:16] <eggzeck> mooor, grep -e 'PATTERNHERE'
[07:16] <Kumo> harisund: ok :)
[07:16] <cppnewbie> so it means like de,fr,nl,us and such stuff?
[07:16] <_jon> sammo, Reburn the CD slower.  If that doesn't work, redownload the ISO and burn it.
[07:16] <_jon> cppnewbie, Yes sir.
[07:16] <sammo> thx
[07:17] <axeshredder> Anyone running dapper 6.06?
[07:17] <mooor> im not that familiar with -e 'PATTERN'
[07:17] <mooor> im sorry
[07:17] <eggzeck> mooor, oops I forgot to tell you to add the file name
[07:17] <eggzeck> mooor, example: grep -e 'why' filename
[07:18] <_jon> cppnewbie, Although I'd file a bugzilla about the Greek mirrors not working
[07:18] <eggzeck> mooor, that will print any line that has "why" in it
[07:18] <cppnewbie> _jon: have no idea how to do that one :P
[07:18] <eggzeck> moor, -e option is for advanced regexp
[07:18] <sammo> _jon could it be that i am running this on an athlon64 but the regular ver wont work, i might ned to get the 64 ver?
[07:18] <eggzeck> mooor, type 'man grep' to learn more :)
[07:18] <mooor> yes im using -e
[07:18] <mooor> but not for getting those lines with 5 columns
[07:19] <mooor> im reading it now i cant find the columns for -e or -E
[07:19] <_jon> sammo, I'm on an Athlon64 with 32 bit..works fine.
[07:19] <_jon> sammo, So no.
[07:19] <_jon> sammo, Personally, I wouldn't advise the 64 bit. =\  It doesn't have Flash...nor Open Office 64 bit..
[07:19] <_jon> sammo, It's kind of a pain.
[07:20] <xiaoyu> how can i change my hostname
[07:20] <_jon> ubotu, tell xiaoyu about hostname
[07:20] <cppnewbie> _jon: it got errors again :|
[07:20] <nq> hi, what does this theme call: http://download.freshmeat.net/screenshots/54779.png
[07:21] <Kumo> harisund: are you there? I had a trouble output
[07:21] <_jon> cppnewbie, Did you update the key?  as it said in the comments?
[07:21] <harisund> Kumo: Yes. Could you post it somewhere perhaps?
[07:21] <cppnewbie> i just used what it had already :|
[07:21] <bleaked> xiaoyu. man hostname
[07:21] <_jon> cppnewbie, Is it complaining about "keys"?
[07:21] <bleaked> or edit /etc/hosts
[07:22] <cppnewbie> not really. i even pastebined it but it appears in a very crappy way. want za link?
[07:22] <_jon> xiaoyu, Check out what ubotu sent.
[07:22] <Kumo> harisund: here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12282
[07:22] <_jon> cppnewbie, Yea
[07:22] <sammo> _jon thanx
[07:22] <_jon> sammo, No problem.
[07:22] <cppnewbie> it has stuff like &#942 in
[07:22] <cppnewbie> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12281
[07:22] <chirag> harisund: I still cant get the audio working for some reason on the dvd player
[07:22] <_jon> cppnewbie, Eek =\
[07:23] <cppnewbie> rofl
[07:23] <jedx_23> NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-8756-pkg1.run How do i get it to work
[07:23] <chirag> i installed the package libdvdcss2
[07:23] <harisund> Kumo: I believe you may have to do it before going online (meaning you cant already be online when you do it)
[07:23] <_jon> cppnewbie, Well, .. by now, I would've just reinstalled, =\  But there's got to be a better way, which kind of bothers me.
[07:23] <harisund> Kumo: Either restart, don't go online, and try the command out, or simply switch off your connection and try it
[07:23] <cppnewbie> mate _jon where do ya live? tell me
[07:23] <chirag> harisund: I still cant get the audio working for some reason on the dvd player
[07:23] <chirag> i installed the package libdvdcss2
[07:23] <_jon> cppnewbie, United States. Yourself?
[07:24] <Kumo> harisund: what a fool, how could I turn my connection down with out rebooting? or I have to do it anyway?
[07:24] <harisund> chirag:: hmm... I am really sorry.. Could someone help chirag out too?
[07:24] <cppnewbie> greece as u may have already guessed. so if u live in the us cant u give me ur sources.list? :|
[07:24] <harisund> Kumo: I am really sorry, I am not sure with adsl. I would suggest try rebooting.
[07:24] <_jon> cppnewbie, I'm using a 32 bit, I'm afraid it won't work.
[07:24] <harisund> Kumo: Wait.
[07:24] <harisund> Kumo: How do you connect anyway?
[07:24] <cppnewbie> im not. someone gave me a 32 bit sources.list once here
[07:24] <cppnewbie> worked perfectly
[07:24] <_jon> cppnewbie, Ah..ok...I'll give you mine.
[07:24] <eggzeck> I want to go to Greece, cppnewbie, you can use sourc-o-matic
[07:25] <_jon> eggzeck, He said it didn't work.
[07:25] <cppnewbie> eggzeck: i already tried. it gives me some warnings
[07:25] <eggzeck> _jon, oh, I didn't see :)
[07:25] <cppnewbie> which i copy pasted and look like crap --> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12281
[07:25] <Kumo> harisund: system, administration, network, I will do it that way, diactivating it, that was the way I got connected
[07:25] <_jon> cppnewbie, Let me make you one real quick ;)  Tell me if it works, then I'll give you mine.
[07:25] <eggzeck> cppnewbie, paste the warnings
[07:25] <Kumo> harisund: I'll be right back
[07:25] <harisund> Kumo: Yes go ahead
[07:25] <chirag> _jon: i tried the package libdvdcss2_1.2.9-0.0
[07:25] <chirag> _jon
[07:25] <chirag> _jon: and it still wont work
[07:26] <chirag> jon: i get audio when i play mp3s
[07:26] <_jon> chirag, Hmm, I'm not sure either to be honest...make sure nothing is blocking the sound...
[07:26] <chirag> jon_ ok thnx
[07:26] <eggzeck> wtf, I've never seen warnings such as that
[07:26] <eggzeck> Or maybe it's my system, but all I see is "&#940;
[07:27] <_jon> eggzeck, I get the same.
[07:27] <cppnewbie> yea eggzeck
[07:27] <eggzeck> _jason, good, now I know I'm not alone :)
[07:27] <cppnewbie> these are not the errors
[07:27] <cppnewbie> it just appears like it
[07:27] <cppnewbie> on the pastebin
[07:28] <jedx_23> I need Some help with ubuntu
[07:28] <jedx_23> i can get my nvidia to install
[07:28] <jedx_23> i downloaded linux driver
[07:28] <_jon> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12283 <-- cppnewbie, Try that.
[07:28] <stram> does gnome-sound-recorder even work?
[07:28] <eggzeck> cppnewbie, looks like your sources.list might be wrong
[07:28] <_jon> cppnewbie, if it doesn't work, I'll give you mine..
[07:29] <_jon> eggzeck, Yeah, his greek mirrors aren't working, so i'm trying to get him set up with a working English mirror source list...
[07:29] <_jon> eggzeck, Trying to avoid a reinstall.
[07:29] <xiaoyu> it seems that my "CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE" was  disabled ,how to enable it
[07:29] <ike_> aff
[07:29] <ike_> tem algum brazileiro aki ?
[07:29] <chirag> _jon: which media player do you use to play dvds?
[07:29] <nomasteryoda|w> chirag, check the sound output server for the player.. should be oss or some such
[07:29] <FlannelKing> !br
[07:29] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[07:29] <_jon> chirag, xgine <-- I think?
[07:30] <cppnewbie> _jon: same thing. :|
[07:30] <chirag> nomasteryoda|w: ok ill give that a try
[07:30] <_jon> cppnewbie, Any errors with "keys"?
[07:30] <chirag> nomasteryoda|w: which media player do you use?
[07:30] <jedx_23> Witch File should i get linux ia32 ia64
[07:30] <chirag> nomasteryoda|w: im using VLC
[07:30] <nomasteryoda|w> vlc
[07:30] <jedx_23> My system is a 32bit
[07:30] <chirag> cool
[07:30] <_jon> or the &2344 stuff?
[07:30] <nomasteryoda|w> or mplayer
[07:30] <nomasteryoda|w> which i like best
[07:30] <cppnewbie> nope
[07:30] <cppnewbie>         
[07:30] <eggzeck> cppnewbie, you're not editing the file with some rich text editor are you?
[07:30] <jedx_23> NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-8756-pkg1.run
[07:30] <cppnewbie> thats what it says
[07:31] <mikebot> anyone here play fsrisk>?
[07:31] <cppnewbie> and that means, impossible to find the status of the list of source packages. or something like that
[07:31] <jedx_23> Err
[07:32] <xiaoyu> it seems that my "CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE" was  disabled ,how to enable it
[07:32] <aloon> can anyone please tell me the commands to get a secondary storage harddrive (with files already on it) to be mountable by kde? KDE sees it but doesnt give it a mountpoint and im not sure what to type in fstab
[07:32] <echVenom> hi
[07:33] <cppnewbie> eggzeck: whadda u mean rich text editor? :|
[07:33] <_jon> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12284 <-- cppnewbie, Here's mine.
[07:33] <jedx_23> Well i recond i aint getting a driver for my linux
[07:33] <jedx_23> this sucks
[07:33] <hahahahahaha> !restricted formats
[07:33] <ubotu> I guess restricted formats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'
[07:33] <cppnewbie> wtf. this doesnt work either :|
[07:33] <chirag> nomasteryoda|w: I found that OSS thing in VLC media player
[07:33] <_jon> jedx_23
[07:34] <chirag> nomasteryoda|w: I found that OSS thing in VLC media player
[07:34] <nomasteryoda|w> ok
[07:34] <chirag> nomasteryoda|w: but what should i set its directory too?
[07:34] <chirag> nomasteryoda|w: the audio_ts folder?
[07:34] <nomasteryoda|w> er, just sec
[07:34] <_jon> jedx_23, cd to where it is.. cdmod +x NVIDIAblahblah.run then sudo NVIDIAblahblah.run
[07:35] <cppnewbie> _jon: maybe u mean chmod ? :|
[07:35] <nomasteryoda|w> chirag, needs to be alsa
[07:35] <nomasteryoda|w> not oss
[07:35] <chirag> nomasteryoda|w: asla?
[07:35] <sammo> anyone know of a good app that i can use to burn the iso on ubuntu?
[07:35] <_jon> cppnewbie, Err yeah
[07:35] <chirag> nomasteryoda|w: just type alsa in their literally?
[07:35] <_jon> cppnewbie, I'm too tired to be giving support :P
[07:35] <cppnewbie> rofl
[07:36] <cppnewbie> but i dunno. urs doesnt work either
[07:36] <_jon> cppnewbie, But I just noticed he left anyways. =P
[07:36] <chirag> nomasteryoda|w: sorry if that seemed like a dumb question but im new to all this
[07:36] <nomasteryoda|w> ok
[07:36] <_jon> cppnewbie, Umm, anyways, .. What I'd do, since you have a fresh install anyways..just reinstall.. Doesn't take too long.
[07:36] <nomasteryoda|w> let me find the config setting
[07:36] <chirag> ok
[07:36] <harisund> _jon: What is cppnewbie trying to do?
[07:36] <_jon> cppnewbie, Because, to be honest, I'm flat out of ideas. =|
[07:36] <cppnewbie> rofl it takes TOO long but anyway, thats not the point :)
[07:37] <cppnewbie> harisund: restore the repositories. no sources.list worx
[07:37] <harisund> Welcome Kumo
[07:37] <chirag> nomasteryoda|w: because its asking for a specific directory
[07:37] <chirag> nomasteryoda|w: and i have no idea what to point it too
[07:37] <_jon> harisund, He has a greek install of AMD64 bit Ubuntu...the repos don't work (the greek mirrors I think are messed up), so I'm trying to think of a way to use English mirrors without reinstalling..but any source.list that he makes gives him errors...
[07:37] <_jon> harisund, But I'm flat out of ideas, so if you want to take over, that's fine.. =\
[07:38] <Kumo> harisund: hi, everytime I did the sudo pppoeconf I got connected as of course got the same output
[07:38] <chirag> nomasteryoda|w: because its asking for a specific directory
[07:38] <nomasteryoda|w> chirag, you can hand-edit the files in /etc/
[07:38] <nomasteryoda|w> chirag, for mplayer that is
[07:38] <aloon> what are the terminal commands to get a secondary storage harddrive (with files already on it) to be mountable by kde? KDE sees it but doesnt give it a mountpoint and im not sure what to type in fstab
[07:38] <nomasteryoda|w> and the others players too
[07:38] <nomasteryoda|w> it is easier to do that way
[07:38] <nomasteryoda|w> imho0
[07:38] <chirag> nomasteryoda|w: ohhh i thought we were talkin about vlc
[07:38] <harisund> _jon: that's funny. So does his sources. cppnewbie: what is English mirror?
[07:38] <nomasteryoda|w> chirag, do you have mplayer
[07:38] <nomasteryoda|w> i know
[07:38] <nomasteryoda|w> looking for that one too
[07:38] <chirag> nomasteryoda|w: yeah i have mplayery
[07:38] <Kumo> harisund: do you think I shall reboot and try again?
[07:39] <harisund> Kumo: Hang on. Just a sec, let me get it clear.
[07:39] <Kumo> harisund: ok
[07:39] <harisund> Kumo: You are not already online before using pppoeconf, are you?
[07:39] <cppnewbie> harisund: whadda u mean what is english mirror :P
[07:39] <nomasteryoda|w> ok, well then use this.. ao=alsa,oss,sdl,esd,arts
[07:39] <nomasteryoda|w> chirag, thats in /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf
[07:39] <tonyyarusso> harisund, _jon, cppnewbie: Are we sure it's a sources.list problem?  Maybe it's an apt or net connection one.
[07:39] <harisund> cppnewbie: Hang on, I will get you an URL .
[07:39] <Kumo> harisund: yes I wasn't online
[07:39] <anto9us> aloon, you can call it whatever you want as long as it's not reserved, see 'man hier' for list of linux directories, after editing your fstab type 'sudo mount -a' to enable it
[07:39] <nomasteryoda|w> chirag, edit using sudo gedit /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf
[07:39] <cppnewbie> tonyyarusso: might be. how can i figure it out tho
[07:40] <chirag> nomasteryoda|w: ok lemme give that a try
[07:40] <nomasteryoda|w> k
[07:40] <_jon> tonyyarusso, take it, I'm leaving anyways.  cppnewbie, Good luck. :)
[07:40] <tonyyarusso> cppnewbie: First off, can you ping the sites listed in your sources or go to them in a browser?
[07:40] <aloon> kde sees it as hdb
[07:40] <cppnewbie> http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-updates_main_binary-amd64_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[07:40] <cppnewbie> one of the errors i get
[07:41] <blindx> Any recommendations on a VCD burning program? (that can handle avi's?)
[07:41] <cppnewbie> tonyyarusso: i didnt even try it :)
[07:41] <anto9us> aloon, yes, that's the device not a partition and mount point
[07:41] <chirag> nomasteryoda|w: once i open the mplayer.conf file what should i edit?
[07:41] <harisund> cppnewbie: I would suggest first ensurig you have an internet connection (as he has pointed out)  and second using this to get a working souces.list http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[07:41] <nomasteryoda|w> chirag, scroll down to audio settings
[07:41] <cppnewbie> harisund: i already tried source-o-matic
[07:41] <harisund> Kumo: Now I am at a loss..sorry ... anyway, what is it that you do otherwise to get your internet started?
[07:41] <nomasteryoda|w> it should say
[07:41] <anto9us> aloon, you need to allocate a mount point to the partition on the hdb device
[07:41] <cppnewbie> and if i didnt have an internet connection how would i be here :S
[07:41] <aloon> thats my question how to do that
[07:41] <chirag> nomasteryoda|w: k
[07:41] <tonyyarusso> cppnewbie: That, and the us mirror isn't reliable either.  :P
[07:41] <harisund> cppnewbie: Then I strongly believe tonyyarusso is correct. But apparently you have internet since you are on IRC
[07:41] <chirag> nomasteryoda|w: im there
[07:42] <nomasteryoda|w> chirag, should say ao=alsa,oss,sdl,esd,arts
[07:42] <nomasteryoda|w> ok
[07:42] <aloon> i want to call it just storage
[07:42] <nomasteryoda|w> in that order
[07:42] <nomasteryoda|w> that is the default i think
 how do i allocate it?
[07:42] <Kumo> harisund: I turn it on in system-administration-network
[07:42] <anto9us> aloon, give me a second, I'm finding a help page for you
[07:43] <aloon> thanks alot in advance
[07:43] <tonyyarusso> cppnewbie: Also, you could test whether apt itself was okay by trying to fetch an extra non-default package off of the install CD, like build-essential for example.
[07:43] <chirag> nomasteryoda|w: it only says 'ao=alsa"
[07:43] <blindx> Any recommendations on a VCD burning program? (that can handle avi's?)
[07:43] <nomasteryoda|w> ok
[07:43] <chirag> should i edit it to what you said?
[07:43] <chirag> nomasteryoda|w: should i edit it to what you said?
[07:43] <harisund> Kumo: oh. that's bad (for me) since I don't really know how system-network-manager works.
[07:43] <nomasteryoda|w> that is ok, but if you add the others then you are covered if alsa does not work
[07:43] <Kumo> harisund: or I can get connected using the previous kernel
[07:43] <nomasteryoda|w> yea
[07:44] <AngryElf> hey all, i'm trying to set up my home directory so it's shared across a couple boxes.....problem is, if i use the home directory from one box on another I can't open any apps....username, uid are all the same, what do i need to change?
[07:44] <chirag> nomasteryoda|w: ok did that
[07:44] <chirag> nomasteryoda|w: it should work in mplayer now?
[07:44] <anto9us> aloon, there's information here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[07:44] <harisund> Kumo:Hmm..let's see, if we knew the command line options to get connected we could write a script that starts at runtime
[07:45] <aloon> thx
[07:45] <nomasteryoda|w> chirag, yes
[07:45] <nomasteryoda|w> should
[07:45] <Kumo> harisund: ok
[07:46] <patrick52222> wats the command to install .deb files
[07:46] <patrick52222> !java
[07:46] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[07:46] <patrick52222> !nvidia
[07:46] <ubotu> I guess nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[07:47] <chirag> nomasteryoda|w: audio still doesnt work
[07:48] <chirag> nomasteryoda|w: i dont really like mplayer much any idea how to get the audio to work in vlc?
[07:48] <Kumo> harisund: Aploste recommended me to add ifconfig eth0 up to /etc/rc.d/rc.local, the problem was that I don't have that folder
[07:48] <chirag> nomasteryoda|w: or totem player
[07:48] <harisund> Kumo: can you post the output of /etc/network/interfaces file contents somewhere?
[07:48] <harisund> Kumo: That file tells what to do with network interfaces on DHCP
[07:49] <harisund> Kumo: I mean on boot time
[07:49] <Kumo> harisund: ok
[07:49] <chirag> nomasteryoda|w: i dont really like mplayer much any idea how to get the audio to work in vlc?
[07:49] <chirag> nomasteryoda|w: or totem player
[07:49] <Kumo> harisund: here you are http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12276
[07:50] <harisund> Kumo: Is eth0 your DSL connection?
[07:50] <Mend> good morning everybody!
[07:50] <harisund> Kumo: That could be a problem. You see your machine thinks it should be connected to a DHCP server,which is not the case.
[07:50] <monsterb> patrick52222: having problems installing Nvidia drivers?
[07:50] <harisund> Kumo: What I am trying to do is find out how to configure an interfaces file for dsl .
[07:51] <Kumo> harisund: ok
[07:52] <chirag> I am having a problem with my audio
[07:52] <chirag> its not working for my dvds
[07:52] <chirag> but it works when i play mp3s
[07:52] <chirag> anyone have any suggestions?
[07:52] <harisund> Hang on Kumo. I am trying todo some searching
[07:53] <Kumo> harisund: ok
[07:53] <vars> mplayer DVD isn't working it gets to cache fill to 19.57%   and then it hangs   what gives?
[07:54] <chirag> vars: did you ever get the audio to work when playing dvds?
[07:54] <vars> yes
[07:54] <jmoncayo> does somebody know what is rpc3 and rpc5 for?
[07:54] <chirag> vars: can you help me out with that?
[07:55] <chirag> vars: my audio works for music mp3s but not when i play dvds for some reason
[07:55] <ChairmanKaga> are you using oss or alsa or esd?
[07:55] <ChairmanKaga> and what program are you using to play the dvds
[07:55] <chirag> im using vlc player
[07:56] <vars> chirag, restart your computer and then try to paly a DVD ( the sound card gets locked up and then it needs to be un locked
[07:56] <harisund> Kumo: You say you are getting the same errors after rebooting, even before going online?
[07:56] <chirag> ChairmanKaga: and im not too sure which drivers im using
[07:56] <xwing> hi all. I managed to get nvidia binary drivers working with X, but everytime i reboot X tries to use the 7174 drivers (and fails) instead of 8756. However, after I re-compile the 8756 X works fine. How can I fix this?
[07:56] <Kumo> harisund: no, I haven't tried that yet
[07:56] <harisund> Kumo: Ok, after restarting, make sure you don't have internet.
[07:56] <harisund> Kumo: try pinging some website and ensuring you don't have internet.
[07:56] <chirag> ChairmanKaga: my audio works for mp3s but not dvds
[07:57] <blindx> Any recommendations on a VCD burning program? (that can handle avi's?)
[07:57] <Kumo> harisund: I'm gonna try to see what happens
[07:57] <harisund> Kumo: And then try in general opening a web page to make sure you don't have internet.
[07:57] <harisund> Kumo: And if possible, save the output of ifconfig (before going online)
[07:57] <chirag> ChairmanKaga: and I am using vlc media player
[07:57] <chirag> ChairmanKaga: you think i should restart my computer?
[07:57] <harisund> Kumo: When you are *100%* sure you are not online
[07:57] <harisund> Kumo: Try pppoeconf
[07:57] <Kumo> harisund: ok
[07:58] <harisund> Kumo: are you still there?
[07:58] <nomasteryoda> chirag, i have it
[07:58] <Kumo> harisund: I'll be right back
[07:58] <harisund> Kumo: hang on. Just a second. don't reboot
[07:58] <nomasteryoda> chirag, you need to do this... as root
[07:58] <Kumo> harisund: ok
[07:58] <nomasteryoda> chirag, in terminal... type alsamixer and then using arrows adjust sound for video
[07:58] <sammo> whats a good app to burn an iso? i need to burn the ubuntu iso again and got rid of windows
[07:59] <harisund> Kumo: Edit (as sudo) your /etc/network/interfaces file
[07:59] <nomasteryoda> i had to do it for my swf stuff in firefox just now
[07:59] <chirag> nomasteryoda: ill give that a try
[07:59] <chirag> nomasteryoda: for video?
[07:59] <nomasteryoda> ya
[07:59] <chirag> nomasteryoda: i dont think i have a video adjustment knob
[07:59] <nomasteryoda> the sound you want right?
[07:59] <chirag> nomasteryoda: but lemme double check
[07:59] <AAA> sammo  k3b
[08:00] <harisund> Kumo: Make it match this file here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12286
[08:00] <Kumo> harisund: ok
[08:00] <chirag> nomasteryoda: yes i want sound for movies
[08:00] <nomasteryoda> k
[08:00] <sammo> thx
[08:00] <harisund> Kumo: basically comment out the last 2 lines. The iface line and the auto line
[08:00] <nomasteryoda> so is that option there on alsamixer?
[08:00] <harisund> Kumo: Got that?
[08:01] <chirag> nomasteryoda: it should say video?
[08:01] <nomasteryoda> er, mine does
[08:01] <chirag> nomasteryoda: if so, then there isnt
[08:01] <nomasteryoda> in the terminal version not gui
[08:01] <nomasteryoda> right?
[08:01] <AAA> nomasteryoda  alsa has the master volume muted by default, just use alsamixer and turn the master up
[08:01] <chirag> nomasteryoda: yea im in the terminal version
[08:01] <Kumo> harisund: yes, so those lines won't be read
[08:01] <chirag> nomasteryoda: maybe thats my problem
[08:01] <nomasteryoda> AAA, yea
[08:01] <xwing> any idea how I can remove the 7174 nvidia binary driver? I have installed 8756 but X seems to take 7174 as default due to which gdm fails (error is driver mismatch)
[08:01] <harisund> Yep. DHCP is suspicious, I don't like it for a dsl connection
[08:02] <nomasteryoda> chirag, turn all up except mic
[08:02] <nomasteryoda> about 75%
[08:02] <cdmbhs> hi, can someone please refresh my memory on the command to mount an ntfs drive (im using a live cd to recover info from windoZe) ... thanks
[08:02] <chirag> nomasteryoda: ok
[08:02] <chirag> nomasteryoda: one sec
[08:02] <AAA>  mount -t ntfs /dev/hdX /mnt/foo
[08:03] <chirag> nomasteryoda: k did that
[08:03] <AAA> iirc it will mount it ro use mount -t -o rw ... to make it writeable (UNSTABLE)
[08:03] <Smerity> Curiously, in Synaptic, when an app has an ubuntu logo next to it, what does that mean? Is it supposed to be installed by default...? It just doesn't say and I'd like to know =)
[08:03] <monsterb> How do I remove the Ubuntu branding from Gnome? I want the Gnome foot back in my life. :)
[08:04] <jmoncayo> how can i know my battery status??
[08:04] <nomasteryoda> chirag, now as normal user run your player from commmand line with file pasted as the run option
[08:04] <cdmbhs> ugh, whats the fake root password for live cds? (btw thanks chirag)
[08:04] <cdmbhs> i mean AAA
[08:04] <nomasteryoda> chirag, that way you can see if there are any errors
[08:04] <nomasteryoda> it will tell you
[08:04] <Kumo> harisund: I haven't realized but now I got 2 more lines in that files: iface dsl-provider inet and ppp
[08:04] <Kumo> provider dsl-provider
[08:04] <harisund> aha. that's interesting.
[08:04] <chirag> ok
[08:04] <harisund> Kumo: can you post it again?
[08:05] <chirag> cdmbhs: i have no idea
[08:05] <Kumo> harisund: sure, a second
[08:05] <harisund> Kumo: I expected you would get it after doing a pppoeconf. Hang on I have to disconnect and reconnect
[08:05] <AAA> jmoncayo  it depends on whether it is apm or acpi, there are tons of tools or you can just look ath the /proc entry
[08:05] <Kumo> harisund: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12287
[08:05] <blindx> Any recommendations on a VCD burning program? (that can handle avi's?) >_>
[08:06] <Kumo> harisund: yes I think it changed after that
[08:06] <chirag> nomasteryoda: oss audio output error: cannot open audio device (/dev/dsp)
[08:06] <AAA> blindx  vcd's and svcd's are mpg files, you will have to convert it regardless
[08:07] <chirag> nomasteryoda: oss audio output error: cannot open audio device (/dev/dsp)
[08:07] <Concretesledge> hey my ubuntu connec just quit working
[08:07] <seba_89> hhello
[08:07] <ChairmanKaga> chirag, try following this FAQ
[08:07] <Concretesledge> VmWare
[08:07] <harisund> sorry Kumo. Did you post?
[08:07] <ChairmanKaga> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=101125
[08:07] <AAA> chirag  make sure you are in the audio group (id) and that /dev/dsp actually exists
[08:07] <ChairmanKaga> that one ^^
[08:07] <seba_89> does somebody know how to play mp3 on ubuntu?
[08:07] <Kumo> harisund: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12287
[08:07] <Concretesledge> What is the command to restart servicecs
[08:07] <ChairmanKaga> it's how i got my sound working properly
[08:07] <frank23> how would I move files in different subdirectories   ./dir1/*  ./dir2/*  etc  in one directory?
[08:07] <driggers> whats a good ubuntu book?  is that the best way to familiarize myself with my new system?  i'm new to linux as well
[08:07] <AAA> Concretesledge  /etc/init.d/<service name>
[08:08] <Concretesledge> AAA what is it for dhcpnetwork ?
[08:08] <Concretesledge> breezy badger
[08:08] <Kumo> harisund: it changed after the pppoeconf
[08:08] <harisund> Kumo:: I would expect that.
[08:08] <AAA> frank23  mv dir1/* dir2/* dir3/* new_dir_with_all_files/
[08:08] <monsterb> How do I remove the Ubuntu branding from Gnome? I want the Gnome foot back in my life. :)
[08:08] <chirag> AAA: dev/dsp doesnt exist
[08:08] <AAA> Concretesledge  what are you trying to do
[08:08] <harisund> Kumo: You know what, just try to comment out the line that has the word DHCP in it.
[08:09] <chirag> AAA: but what should it be pointing to?
[08:09] <frank23> AAA: yes but how to do it automatically for all dir?
[08:09] <Kumo> harisund: ok
[08:09] <AAA> chirag  ls -l /dev/dsp* what does that say? is your sound driver loaded?
[08:09] <Concretesledge> AAA i just want to try and restart the internet connection, it worked for a few days, then suddenly stopped
[08:09] <harisund> Kumo: Do you see what I am saying? Something like this. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12288
[08:09] <vskye> seba_89: go to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and read.
[08:09] <AAA> frank23  you want to move dir1-3 to a new subdir?
[08:10] <chirag> AAA:crw-rw----  1 root audio 14,  3 2006-04-14 13:38 /dev/dsp
[08:10] <chirag> crw-rw----  1 root audio 14, 19 2006-04-14 13:38 /dev/dsp1
[08:10] <harisund> Kumo: You may want to try that and restart and see if it works?
[08:10] <AAA> Concretesledge  well, /etc/init.d/network restart will restart the service
[08:10] <AAA> chirag  and are you in the audio group? id  <-- will tell you your groups
[08:10] <ubuntu> Hello
[08:10] <frank23> AAA: dir1, dir2, dir3 have random names and there are lots of them. I need to put all thoses files in one directory
[08:10] <Kumo> harisund: sure, I'll reboot right now
[08:10] <hahahahahaha> \o/
[08:11] <harisund> Kumo: And don't forget to pray too
[08:11] <hahahahahaha> flawless install into dell inspiron 8200
[08:11] <hahahahahaha> very impressive
[08:11] <harisund> Are there are any MAC users? Do they know of any Ubuntu applications that shows me all Windows, like F11 does on a Mac
[08:11] <AAA> frank23  ok find /home/frank23 -name dir* -exec mv {} newdir \;
[08:11] <Kumo> harisund: sure, I'll do it
[08:12] <chirag> AAA:uid=1000(chirag) gid=1000(chirag) groups=4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom),25(floppy),29(audio),30(dip),44(video),46(plugdev),104(lpadmin),105(scanner),106(admin),1000(chirag)
[08:12] <AAA> frank23  oops, you need also -type d
[08:12] <sockpuppe1> how can I get the latest openoffice on breezy (2.0.2)
[08:13] <chirag> AAA: yea i guess that means im in the audio group
[08:13] <anto9us> harisund, compiz+xgl does it
[08:13] <AAA> apt-get install openoffice.org
[08:13] <harisund> anto9us: really? That's cool. Has anybody dared to install Compiz on Breezy yet?
[08:13] <FlannelKing> sockpuppe1: breezy comes with OOo2
[08:13] <AAA> chirag  yeah, is your audio driver loaded? lsmod |grep snd
[08:14] <anto9us> harisund, I believe so, search the ubuntu wiki/forums
[08:14] <mbelgedhes> hi all folks
[08:14] <harisund> anto9us: ok thanks. I am going to have a look ..
[08:14] <AAA> chirag  when you run alsamixer it gives you that error?
[08:15] <chirag> AAA: which error?
[08:15] <sockpuppe1> tonyyarusso thank you
[08:15] <AAA> chirag  about /dev/dsp not existing
[08:15] <harisund> People this update-manager is really really annoying. Kind of reminds me of Windows. How can I switch it off completely so that it doesn't start on reboot?
[08:15] <patrick52222> im havin errors installin stuff  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12289
[08:15] <chirag> AAA: ohhh im sorry i dont get that error
[08:15] <chirag> AAA: i think we are thinking two different things
[08:16] <AAA> chirag  ok, so what is it that is not working for ya ?
[08:16] <chirag> AAA: what the problem is is that my audio is working for my mp3s and all my music
[08:16] <chirag> AAA: but once i pop in a DVD it doesnt work
[08:16] <FlannelKing> patrick52222: what's your sources list look like?
[08:16] <chirag> AAA: so it works for music but not for DVDS
[08:16] <AAA> chirag  ah, is your audio cable plugged in to the dvd player to the sound card?
[08:16] <nomasteryoda> chirag, is the audio player off/unloaded?
[08:17] <patrick52222> flannelking:wat do you mean
[08:17] <tonyyarusso> harisund: It's in the Synaptic preferences.
[08:17] <chirag> AAA: yea my dvd player is connected through usb
[08:17] <AAA> chirag  if the dvd plays, and you can adjust the sound, it bet you a dollar you cable is not hooked up proper
[08:17] <mbelgedhes> harisund, try to check /etc/rc2.d
[08:17] <AAA> chirag  OH, that is another ball of wax then
[08:17] <harisund> tonyyarusso: Synaptic? Ah that's why I couldn't find it . I have never used Synaptic. What would the command name be mbelgedhes?
[08:18] <chirag> AAA: hahahaha well maybe i should try my internal dvd player then
[08:18] <tonyyarusso> harisund: System > Administration > Software Properties will get you there quickly too.
[08:18] <frank23> AAA: ok. thanks. I didn't need -type d . Not sure what it was for
[08:18] <AAA> chirag  do you know if it works the way it is set up now in winders? I have never played with usb dvd players
[08:18] <mbelgedhes> scrip under that dir is link to /etc/init.d that run at boot time
[08:18] <chirag> AAA: u mean in windows?
[08:18] <AAA> frank23  man find.... -type d  d=directory =p
[08:18] <AAA> chirag  yah
[08:19] <chirag> AAA: yea it works great in windows
[08:19] <harisund> mbelgedhes: Yes, but there is no update-manager script. I have removed most of my scripts to increase boot time.
[08:19] <mihai_> What port under 1024 I can use for torrent?
[08:19] <harisund> I mean, speed up boot time.
[08:19] <tonyyarusso> harisund, mbelgedhes: I don't think it's an init script, a cron job rather.
[08:19] <harisund> Tonyyarusso: Ah. That makes sense.
[08:19] <tonyyarusso> Mine runs at 7:35 AM every day.
[08:19] <harisund> System > Administration > Software Properties: Couldn't find it?
[08:19] <AAA> chirag  ok, sounds like a driver issue with the usb stuff, I have no clue sorry.  unplug the device, plug it back in and type dmesg at the prompt. maybe you will find a clue there
[08:19] <patrick52222> hoe do i view my source list
[08:19] <FlannelKing> harisund: that's a menu/GUI thing, not a command.
[08:20] <harisund> patrick52222: "cat /etc/apt/sources.list"
[08:20] <anto9us> mihai_, ports below that are root only
[08:20] <AAA> mihai_  any port you set up properly, but why use trusted ports for that?
[08:20] <harisund> FlannelKing: I know but I am not able to find anything like that in my Administratin
[08:20] <ice1016> newbie here?????...need some help
[08:20] <chirag> AAA: im gonna give my internal drive a try
[08:20] <mihai_> the ISP blocked every port you could imagine
[08:20] <chirag> AAA: ill let you know how that works out
[08:20] <Concretesledge> .
[08:20] <FlannelKing> harisund: Synaptic Package Manager?
[08:20] <mbelgedhes> if it's a cron job, check /etc/cron.daily
[08:20] <AAA> chirag  cool
[08:20] <mihai_> and I need to find another one that works so I can use bittorent
[08:21] <tonyyarusso> harisund: Okay, then try opening Synaptic, then Settings > Repositories, click Settings, and you'll see it.
[08:21] <mbelgedhes> or some kind of that
[08:21] <Concretesledge> vcpu-0:ASSERT devices/vide/vide.c:2264 bugNr=12190
[08:21] <patrick52222> flannelking:here my source list   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12290
[08:21] <harisund> mbelgedhes: Will do it. FlannelKing: Got it. Am having a look. Thanks a ton
[08:21] <CpuWhiz> is there a way to only use a specific from dapper, i want to use my bluetooth headset
[08:21] <Concretesledge> *** VMware Workstation internal monitor error ***
[08:21] <CpuWhiz> specific package
[08:21] <mihai_> guess I can't use 80
[08:21] <ice1016> just installed the "install" cd on my laptop.Can anyone gimme some tips on how to get my desktop to run?
[08:21] <AAA> mihai_  then you may be SOL. you should still be able to leech with the current setup, just not seed
[08:21] <anto9us> mihai_, I wouldn't recommend running bittorrent as root, try 8080
[08:22] <mihai_> anto9us, 8080 is closed too
[08:22] <chirag> AAA: it doesnt look like the sound is working for my internal drive either
[08:22] <AAA> CpuWhiz  you want to 'pin' an apt check google and man apt-get for more details
[08:22] <CpuWhiz> ok, i will look that up
[08:22] <anto9us> mihai_, hmm... bittorrent is client server anyway isn't it? surely the ports are dictated by the server
[08:22] <CpuWhiz> to be honest i normally use gentoo and i am sick of compiling everything
[08:22] <Plitskin2> whew finished installing Java...
[08:22] <Plitskin2> anyone else having a hard time?
[08:22] <AAA> chirag  did you adjust the volume for the cd-drive? try just putting all the volume's on max and see what happens
[08:23] <harisund> tonyyarusso: My Synaptic Settings->Preferences has nothing related to auto update?
[08:23] <mbelgedhes> can anybody tell me how to switch off synch time to ubuntu server ?
[08:23] <mihai_> can I use azureus through a proxy?
[08:23] <tonyyarusso> harisund: Settings > Repos > Settings
[08:24] <chirag> AAA: i think i am missing a ton of dependencies
[08:24] <doubletwist> Anyone gotten a MS Intellimouse to work with side buttons and scrolling in Dapper? [or point me to working info on it?] 
[08:24] <AAA> mbelgedhes  /etc/init.d/ntpdate stop you may want to also remove it from your startup scripts :: update-rc.d -f ntpdate remove
[08:24] <harisund> tonyyarusso: Oh repos. Really sorries. I should have checked.
[08:24] <AAA> chirag  for what?
[08:24] <chirag> AAA: so im gonna go through and install everything
[08:24] <mbelgedhes> thx AAA,
[08:24] <sockpuppe1> tonyyarusso is this 2.0.1 or 2.0.2?
[08:24] <chirag> AAA: libdvdcss2
[08:24] <FlannelKing> patrick52222: try installing those packages (the ones that gstreamer-mad depends on) individually.
[08:24] <mihai_> I think I ran out of solutions
[08:24] <chirag> AAA: while im at it do you have any idea how i could get my cd eject buttons to work under ubuntu
[08:24] <chirag> ?
[08:25] <mihai_> tryed every possible port I can imagine
[08:25] <tonyyarusso> sockpuppe1: I think it should work for any.
[08:25] <AAA> chirag  if that wasn't working you wouldn't even get video. can you adjust the volume when you play the dvd?
[08:25] <Concretesledge> NOW it wont even boot
[08:25] <AAA> chirag  eject -r
[08:25] <FlannelKing> chirag: that's in easyubuntu, so you could check their script ;)
[08:25] <chirag> AAA: yes i can adjust the volume
[08:25] <vars> does anyone know why mplayer stops once 20240 bytes are cached?
[08:25] <chirag> AAA: but there is no volume to adjust
[08:26] <sockpuppe1> tonyyarusso 2.0.1-0breezy1... I can deal with this
[08:26] <harisund> whois Kumo
[08:26] <harisund> How do I check if someone is online?
[08:26] <AAA> chirag  just for fun, try playing the dvd as root (with mplayer if it is installed)
[08:26] <harisund> in IRC I mean?
[08:26] <vars> 204800 bytes
[08:26] <FlannelKing> put a slash infront /
[08:26] <anto9us> harisund, /msg nickserv help info
[08:26] <AAA> chirag  what do you mean? does it not let you change it in your media player?
[08:27] <patrick52222> flannelking: nope cant find and install the things it needs
[08:27] <harisund> Ah thanks anto9us. I was helping Kumo fix his adsl to get cnncted on boot, and he said he would reboot. So I was wondering whteher he was back online
[08:27] <Plitskin> hey is there any issues regarding installing Ubuntu on SATA 2 drives?
[08:27] <anto9us> harisund, !seen <nick> also works in many channels that have a bot
[08:28] <AAA> vars  what are you trying to play and did you give it the -cache argument?
[08:28] <chirag> AAA: well i can change the audio level in the media player but i dont hear anything anyways so its useless
[08:28] <FlannelKing> patrick52222: no idea, sorry.  Someone else here might be able to help you.
[08:28] <harisund> anto9us: ok .. thanks
[08:28] <harisund> Kumo. Welcome back. Any luck?
[08:28] <chirag> AAA: i could put the audio on full volume and still not hear anything
[08:28] <AAA> chirag  it really sounds like something is not hooked up on the hardware end to me
[08:28] <patrick52222> im havin errors installin stuff  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12289
[08:28] <vars> AAA, a DVD and i gave it no arguments
[08:28] <chirag> AAA: im pretty sure its not that cuz it works in windows just fine
[08:28] <vars> what is the -cache argument?
[08:29] <patrick52222> here my source list   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12290
[08:29] <Kumo> harisund: hi, the same output
[08:29] <AAA> vars  try mplayer dvd://1 -cache 8186
[08:29] <AAA> chirag  what sound card?
[08:30] <Kumo> harisund: this time when I wanted to activate the connection it said that wasn't configured
[08:30] <AAA> vars  is mplayer reading the crypt at the begining?
[08:30] <harisund> Kumo: Same output would mean you are trying to get connected at the beginning. That shouldn't be happening.  Hmm... I am really sorry why we are not able to get it working ... WHAT DID IT SAY? How did you get it to work then?
[08:31] <vars> libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_11_1.VOB at 0x003e1993
[08:31] <vars> libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
[08:31] <vars>  is that whgat you mean?
[08:31] <AAA> chirag  do have mplayer installed?
[08:31] <bintut> hello all...
[08:31] <AAA> vars  you need libdvdread3
[08:31] <DBO> hello bintut
[08:31] <Kumo> harisund: I set configure, then I picked up dhcp and got the connection
[08:31] <Concretesledge> tried to share windows drives with it
[08:31] <Concretesledge> and the internet goes down.. nice
[08:31] <harisund> Kumo: You picked up DHCP and it worked? Are you sure you are even on adsl?
[08:32] <AAA> vars  er, is it giving error? or jsut reading it then not playing? how fast is your cpu?
[08:32] <vars> i have a 1.4 celeron
[08:32] <Kumo> harisund: I think so, it uses the telephone line
[08:32] <patrick52222> im havin errors installing stuff like mp3 formats and other packages here the problem http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12289
[08:33] <Caminomaster> Someone who uses grip
[08:33] <AAA> vars  ok is dma turned on your dvd player? sudo hdparm -d
[08:33] <harisund> Kumo: You know what we must be doing then? I am going to give it one last shot, else I am just going to apologize to you for wasting your time all together. Post me your current /etc/network/interfaces
[08:33] <Kumo> harisund: and the output of the ifconfig here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12291
[08:33] <harisund> Kumo that is what srprises me. That is the output of ifconfig before cnnecting right? What is the current ifconfig output?
[08:34] <Kumo> harisund: let me see
[08:34] <Dust> hi guys
[08:35] <Dust> I'm a beginner. help me. my system broken. error: can't access tty
[08:35] <DBO> hi Dust
[08:35] <livingdaylight> hi, can one configure panel and menu size in gnome like one can in kde?
[08:35] <AAA> harisund  did you bring that interface up? ifconfig ppp0 up
[08:35] <mbelgedhes> hi too Dust
[08:35] <Dust> how can I do?
[08:35] <DBO> Dust, when do you get that error?
[08:35] <AAA> Dust  what serial device are you working with?
[08:35] <Dust> just boot
[08:35] <harisund> AAA: That was before the interface was brought up. I wanted to make sre it was not configured, so that pppoeconf could be used.
[08:35] <Kumo> harisund: here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12292
[08:35] <Dust> I'm using virtual PC. parallels workstion.
[08:36] <FlannelKing> hmm.  Anyone know why the latest update is installing python-vte? (the update of update-manager)
[08:36] <mbelgedhes>  error: can't access tty --------------> did u edit /etc/inittab ?
[08:36] <vars> AAA, i don't know what is going on.
[08:36] <Caminomaster> GRIP
[08:36] <vars> with my mplayer   ahh i'm going to go to bed, i used that dvd player last week
[08:37] <vars> Caminomaster, are you talking to me?
[08:37] <Kumo> harisund: my "new" /etc/network/interfaces file http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12293
[08:37] <AAA> vars  well, does it ever play the dvd? you can add -v to mplayer to get verbose output
[08:37] <Dust> how do I edit? /etc/inittab?
[08:37] <patrick52222> im havin errors installing stuff like mp3 formats and other packages here the problem http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12289
[08:37] <DBO> Dust, is this a virtual install or a real install?
[08:37] <anto9us> !tell Caminomaster about ask
[08:37] <AAA> vars  mplayer is the very best media player!!!
[08:37] <Dust> virtual Pc..
[08:37] <DBO> Dust, hmmm, I dont know enough about virtual PC to get access at that "hard drive" from another OS...
[08:37] <AAA> Dust  what are you trying to accomplish? do you want to throw a term to a serial device via getty?
[08:38] <vars> AAA i agree   but i don't know what i've doen in the last few days to break it?
[08:38] <vars> i have used GRIP
[08:38] <AAA> vars  did you build from source or from .deb?
[08:38] <mbelgedhes> what do u mean with virtual PC ? Ubuntu being guest OS for other OS ?
[08:38] <livingdaylight> I'm confused; my 17in. AOC (model7VLr) has resolution 1280x1024 yet ubuntu only looks sensible set at 1024x768. Why is that, please?
[08:38] <vars> AAA would taht have broken it
[08:38] <vars> AAA apt-get
[08:39] <harisund> Kumo: That looks like the DHCP section is just added in whether you like it or not. What I would is try this for one last time: Delete everything including and beyond line 14 in your http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12293 Then restart. You should have no internet whatsoever. Good. Then just do an pppoeconf and let it take care (do not use the gnome network manager) and from thatpoint on everything should be fine.
[08:39] <anto9us> livingdaylight, you may need to set monitor timings in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:39] <AAA> vars  ok. just curious. I would m ake sure dma is on, sudo hdparm -d (add 1 to turn it on)
[08:39] <livingdaylight> If i set it to the resolution of the monitor it is tiny - i thought maybe i could increase the size of everything fonts panels etc, is that possible in gnome?
[08:39] <harisund> I am really sorry, but that is my last resort. You see what I am saying?
[08:39] <harisund> Kumo: Just delete everything beyond line 14 in your interfaces file and reboot. It shouldn't bother trying to connect at all.
[08:40] <anto9us> livingdaylight, it is System | Preferences | Font
[08:40] <livingdaylight> anto9us: i have done, what i'm saying is that set at the right monitor setting ubuntu shows real small, so that i had to change it to something bearing normal
[08:40] <patrick52222> please
[08:40] <patrick52222> im havin errors installing stuff like mp3 formats and other packages here the problem http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12289
[08:40] <livingdaylight> anto9us: ok, panels too?
[08:40] <Kumo> harisund: ok, so dont'erase line 14?
[08:41] <AAA> Kumo  shouldn't dsl-provider and ppp0 be swapped in that file?
[08:41] <Caminomaster> Im looking for someone who uses grip
[08:41] <anto9us> livingdaylight, you can resize the panels and the panel icons will fill it
[08:41] <harisund> Kumo: well line 14 is a comment (since it bgins with #)
[08:41] <Kumo> harisund: ok
[08:41] <harisund> AAA: That file wasn't created by him. It was created by the software, so I am guessing it is right
[08:41] <DBO> Dust, I think you are pretty well screwed because of virtual PC...  do you get any kind of place to input commands or does it just give you the error and stop?
[08:41] <livingdaylight> anto9us: ok, how does one resize panels?
[08:41] <vars> AAA, my dvd is at /dev/dvd   how do i turn dma on?
[08:41] <AAA> harisund  ah ok. seems odd and ppp not ppp0 *shrug*
[08:42] <anto9us> livingdaylight, right click an empty space on the panel and select properties
[08:42] <harisund> AAA: poor Kumo, everything about that file looks odd.
[08:42] <vars> ok i got it
[08:42] <harisund> Kumo: You got what I am sayng
[08:42] <harisund> ?
[08:42] <AAA> vars  sudo hdparm -d (check the status first) then add 1 to the end of the line
[08:42] <livingdaylight> anto9us: cool!
[08:42] <vars> AAA what is dma
[08:43] <AAA> direct memory access
[08:43] <Dust> mbelgedhes : you're right. Ubuntu is running guest OS on XP. and I can't edit .inittab.
[08:43] <vars> it still stops at 204800 bytes
[08:43] <Kumo> harisund: yeah, this is odd, I realize that
[08:43] <livingdaylight> anto9us: thx, so in your opinion am i better off setting the computer at the resolution for that monitor and then enlarging the panels?
[08:43] <Kumo> harisund: ok I did it
[08:43] <Dust> can't run vi or other editor
[08:43] <patrick52222> im getting tones of broken packages, what could be the problem
[08:43] <Kumo> harisund: time to reboot
[08:43] <Miles-> Yo
[08:43] <harisund> Ok. Assuming everything beyond line 14 is commented, let's restart one last time, and just do pppoeconf.
[08:43] <harisund> Nothing else
[08:44] <AAA> vars  what about avi/mov/divx on yout box, does it play them proper?
[08:44] <vars> just a sec
[08:44] <DBO> Miles-, Yo
[08:44] <mbelgedhes> Dust, i thing the problem lying on emulator not ubuntu
[08:44] <Kumo> harisund: yes, see you
[08:44] <harisund> Let's hope it works !
[08:44] <Miles-> I'm having a hard time trying to install ATI drivers for my X600se graphic card
[08:45] <DBO> !tell Miles- about ATI
[08:45] <Dust> T_T I have to give up my data?
[08:45] <Miles-> I'm new to *nix, too
[08:45] <Plitskin> hi! how do you unzip .zip files in Ubuntu?
[08:45] <vars> AAA, yea it plays them fine
[08:45] <AAA> Plitskin  apt-get install unzip && unzip foo.zip
[08:45] <AAA> vars  is the dvd bad? try another disk?
[08:45] <mbelgedhes> Dust T_T I have to give up my data? -----------> data ? u save data on ubuntu ?
[08:46] <Dust> humm.. I'm gonna try reinstall virtual machine program.
[08:46] <Plitskin> AAA: Thanks...
[08:46] <vars> yeah i've tried a couple,
[08:46] <AAA> vars  or maybe try mplayer -v -cache 8196 dvd://3
[08:46] <vars> i've gotta go get soem sleep
[08:46] <Dust> thanks mbelgedhes.
[08:46] <Miles-> DBO, ?
[08:46] <mbelgedhes> u r welcomed
[08:46] <anto9us> livingdaylight, I don't have a 17" monitor and my eyes are different to yours, all I'd say is position the monitor as close to eye level as possible to avoid neck strain :)
[08:46] <DBO> Miles-, check the link ubotu sent you
[08:46] <AAA> vars  me too soon, does mplayer give you the hullabalu about "your system is too slow"?
[08:46] <Miles-> Oh okay, didn't see the notice
[08:47] <vars> no
[08:47] <ohzie> Are there any window managers that kind of clone the MaxOSX gui?
[08:47] <Plitskin> AAA: PLease explain what foo.zip is there for?
[08:47] <vars> ohzie, enlightenment does a pretty good job
[08:47] <AAA> ohzie  kde has some themes that look darn close
[08:47] <patrick52222> im getting tones of broken packages, what could be the problem. PLEASE
[08:47] <livingdaylight> anto9us: i was just wondering if whether it was ideal basically, to have the monitor set to its default resolution
[08:47] <ohzie> And does anyone know of ubuntu packages for enlightenment and FCE or something?
[08:47] <Plitskin> ok I understand now...
[08:48] <AAA> Plitskin  define:foo foo is anything, everything and still nothing. a simple example for geeks
[08:48] <ubuntu> 
[08:48] <ohzie> I need to look up that second one again. Can't remember what it's called.
[08:48] <Plitskin> AAA: Yes, I just figured that out :)
[08:48] <anto9us> livingdaylight, it depends entirely on your usage
[08:48] <DBO> ohzie, "sudo apt-get install enlightenment" but its still beta
[08:48] <ubuntu> 
[08:48] <ubuntu> 
[08:48] <DBO> !jp
[08:48] <ubuntu> 
[08:48] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, DBO
[08:48] <DBO> hrm...
[08:48] <vars> g'night
[08:48] <Plitskin> what's the diffrence between using <command> ; <command> and <command> && <comman>
[08:48] <sethk> livingdaylight, set it to the highest it can do with a vertical refresh >= 70hz
[08:49] <crimsun> ubuntu: #ubuntu-zh
[08:49] <AAA> Plitskin  man bash =p
[08:49] <Plitskin> why us there a japanese text there...?
[08:49] <Plitskin> AAA: Thanks again
[08:49] <AAA> Plitskin  basically ; does things in succestion, && does the right cmd if the left finishes and || does the right if the left fails
[08:49] <bintut> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/Candidates
[08:49] <Troy_McClure> this is a really dumb question, but what key is meant by Superkey??
[08:50] <Troy_McClure> i am really confused
[08:50] <Troy_McClure> (playing with compiz)
[08:50] <DBO> !dapper
[08:50] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[08:50] <AAA> Plitskin  furthermore & does all cmds in a subshell regardless of their exit status
[08:50] <anto9us> Troy_McClure, that's usually the one with the windows logo on it
[08:50] <ohzie> Troy_McClure: Usually your windows key
[08:50] <livingdaylight> anto9us: i don't know what is best. if i set it to monitor default everything is small; which means having to configure everything, fonts panels to all programs and applications. If i just lower the resolution everything looks ok withouth having to tamper
[08:51] <patrick52222> im getting tones of broken packages, what could be the problem. PLEASE
[08:51] <FlannelKing> patrick52222: you updateyour sources recently?
[08:51] <mbelgedhes> that means u can use that package
[08:51] <DBO> patrick52222, "sudo apt-get check"
[08:51] <mbelgedhes> that means u can't use that package
[08:51] <Plitskin> AAA: That was a wonderful explanation, I took not of it. Thanks a lot :)
[08:51] <anto9us> livingdaylight, a higher resolution gives you more deskspace to work on, changing fonts and panel sizes negates that, in that case, if you don't need the higher res, stick with the lower one
[08:51] <AAA> patrick52222  or you installed pkg's from another source that conflict with ubuntu
[08:52] <SenorY> hi there!
[08:52] <AAA> Plitskin  np, man is your friend you can man or info any linux command and RTFM :)
[08:52] <mbelgedhes> hi too SenorY
[08:53] <mmmiiikkkeee> i am trying to install gyach in ubuntu brezzy baddger.... its a tarball archive...
[08:53] <AAA> Read the Fine Manual...
[08:53] <SenorY> just wanted to say: (x)ubuntu rocks. ;-)
[08:53] <mmmiiikkkeee> how do i install a tarball?
[08:53] <patrick52222> i have updated
[08:53] <patrick52222> im havin errors installing stuff like mp3 formats and other packages here the problem http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12289
[08:53] <GigaClon> mmmiiikkkeee, double click it
[08:53] <AAA> mmmiiikkkeee  you don't, a tar ball is like a zip file, you have to untar it them you can access the files
[08:53] <livingdaylight> anto9us: thats simple enough, ok. Of course i would like more deskspace, but if i can't see what is on the screen? I just thought there was a theoretical 'best' way of having it set, but it sounds subjective. If i really want more deskspace i'll just have to get a larger monitor : )
[08:54] <mmmiiikkkeee> i untared then
[08:54] <mbelgedhes> untarring it, then cd to that package, ./configure && make && make install
[08:54] <AAA> mmmiiikkkeee  ok, the cd <new dir> and less README
[08:54] <mmmiiikkkeee> and did ./configure
[08:54] <mmmiiikkkeee> then make
[08:54] <ubuntu> 
[08:54] <anto9us> livingdaylight, there's always the option of virtual deskspace and you have multiple desktops by default :)
[08:54] <ubuntu> 
[08:54] <AAA> mbelgedhes  that assumes it is c, limewire for example you just run from that dir
[08:55] <GigaClon> English kudasai
[08:55] <AAA> mmmiiikkkeee  what app is it and what error are you getting?
[08:55] <mbelgedhes> :-), that's right AAA
[08:55] <ohzie> I searched for xfce in synaptic, and was reading the descriptions...there's no like...xfce-base package. Anyone know which I should select?
[08:55] <AAA> or who knows, maybe it is ... *gasp* perl
[08:55] <sethk> livingdaylight, you don't want flicker, which is why I said vert >= 70 hz.  Other than that, if you cared, the desktop would have to be rewritten.  :)
[08:55] <DBO> ohzie, xubuntu-desktop
[08:55] <SenorY> ubuntu, i'm afraid most people won't understand your language.
[08:55] <livingdaylight> anto9us: that is what is cool with linux, the multiple desktops. Something i took for granted and realised only when i had to briefly run windows in a laptop i bought but quickly returned
[08:56] <PwcrLinux-Away> It's a chinse, I dunno which the code from uboutu bot tell a chinse langs..
[08:56] <livingdaylight> anto9us: what is virtual deskspace?
[08:56] <SenorY> ohzie, xubuntu-desktop will install a basic xfce-environment, i did it the same way.
[08:56] <Kumo> harisund: hi, the same output
[08:57] <patrick52222> DBO:im havin errors installing stuff like mp3 formats from the restricted format page here the problem http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12289
[08:57] <ohzie> DBO: Thank you
[08:57] <harisund> Kumo: Really really sorry.. I have no clue anymore
[08:57] <ohzie> SenorY: Thank you
[08:57] <livingdaylight> sethk: what do you mean by flicker? i get a flicker if that is what you mean when i start an application sometimes
[08:57] <anto9us> livingdaylight, it's where your monitor acts like a window to the desktop, which is larger than your physical screen, you move the mouse to the edge of the screen and it automatically scrolls to reveal the rest (move the window)
[08:57] <Miles-> Re-yo.
[08:57] <Miles-> DBO, thanks, it works =)
[08:57] <vladuz976> what does || do compared do | in bash?
[08:58] <shreevatsa> When I want to do a dist-upgrade, is there a way of finding out what packages involve the most amount of space?
[08:58] <AAA>  | is a pipe and || is a logical or
[08:58] <Kumo> harisund: don't worry, don't look that we were defeated
[08:58] <harisund> Kumo: I am really sorry. That is supposed to typically work.
[08:58] <sethk> livingdaylight, the flicker I'm talking about is there all the time.  If the vert freq is close to the electrical frequency (the A/C frequ from the power company) you will see the screen appear to flicker
[08:58] <livingdaylight> anto9us: ok, i've never had that
[08:58] <harisund> Kumo: It could probably be that I am sleepy too :(
[08:58] <sethk> livingdaylight, it's hard to describe in words but it's fairly obvious when you see it.
[08:58] <Kumo> harisund: at least I can use internet, yeah I'm kind of sleepy too :)
[08:58] <AAA> shreevatsa  I believe aptitude will show you
[08:58] <livingdaylight> sethk: then i'm not suffering from that problem by the sounds of it
[08:58] <DBO> patrick52222, do you have universe repos enabled?
[08:58] <shreevatsa> When I see "Need to get 119MB of archives." -- is there a way of finding why?
[08:59] <sethk> livingdaylight, very likely not, I think you would have noticed.
[08:59] <DBO> patrick52222, "sudo apt-get install libmad0
[08:59] <sethk> Kumo, you have a dhcp server problem?
[08:59] <livingdaylight> anto9us: where do you set that?
[08:59] <shreevatsa> AAA: is aptitude better than synaptic? I usually just use the command-line, so I know of neither...
[08:59] <anto9us> livingdaylight, you can switch to another resolution if it's configured with ctrl alt - or + and it should work
[08:59] <Miles-> How do I access the "Gears" test program?
[08:59] <DBO> shreevatsa, its just a preference, they do the same thing
[08:59] <Miles-> Can't remember ~~;
[08:59] <AAA> shreevatsa  aptitude is a curses frontend to apt-*
[08:59] <Kumo> harisund: anyway thank you very much for your help, I now know that wasn't something easy
[08:59] <DBO> Miles-, "glxgears"
[08:59] <PwcrLinux> yea, a flickered screen.. away from strong magnets (elevator shaft behind it in home, non-shield speakers and etc)..
[08:59] <Miles-> thx
[09:00] <harisund> Kumo: You know what, keep trying or reading somewhere. I have done it before (way back, on Debian) and I will get it to you somehow.
[09:00] <AAA> shreevatsa  I think so, not off the top of my head tho, check man apt-get
[09:00] <sethk> Kumo, what's the issue?
[09:00] <livingdaylight> ooops
[09:01] <anto9us> livingdaylight, you caught the backspace key?
[09:01] <patrick52222> DBO:i have then enabled and i cat install libmad0 as i get errors
[09:01] <DBO> yes, what errors?
[09:01] <Kumo> harisund: what if when you find something write it to my email?
[09:01] <livingdaylight> anto9us: no : )
[09:01] <harisund> Ok will do. What is it?
[09:01] <Miles-> O_o I'm lacking my 1280x800 original screen resolution
[09:02] <rodniy> hi all. can anyone help.. I'm trying to install ati drivers on dapper and all I get after changing xorg.conf is blank screen. When I try #modprobe fglrx I get: FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.15-20-386/volatile/fglrx.ko): Operation not permitted
[09:02] <mbelgedhes>  hello dust
[09:02] <anto9us> !dapper
[09:02] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[09:02] <sethk> rodniy, can't insert it while the gui is up and running
[09:02] <Dust> hi
[09:02] <Dust> can't boot, either..
[09:02] <Kumo> sethk: well I can connect to internet but everytime I have to active the eth0 connection on the System-Administration-Network
[09:02] <DBO> Miles-, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[09:03] <sethk> Kumo, I got a couple of systems working yesterday with dhcp.
[09:03] <Miles-> okay
[09:03] <AAA> rodniy  sudo ?
[09:03] <sethk> Kumo, they now work on reboot.
[09:03] <rodniy> I am su
[09:03] <Dust> said Target filesystem doesn't have /sbin/init.. but I can't edit any file
[09:03] <sethk> Kumo, question, if you reboot and then look at eth0 (before you bring it up), do the settings look correct?
[09:03] <shreevatsa> I can't find any such thing in the apt-get manpage...
[09:03] <patrick52222> DBO:  here is the problem http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12294 when trying to install that package
[09:03] <Kumo> harisund: I'll conitnue looking for the solution
[09:03] <sethk> Kumo, you can add a couple of lines to an init file and hack it that way
[09:03] <mbelgedhes> Dust, u'll be better install dual booting OS instead of emulate them :-)
[09:03] <harisund> Kumo: Ok will do.
[09:04] <Kumo> sethk: really? where exactly?
[09:04] <DBO> patrick52222, what is the output on "uname -r" (you can paste the one line output here)
[09:04] <sethk> Kumo, what I did was create a new file in /etc/rc2.d
[09:04] <Dust> well.. I have a lot of data. aobut 40GB. but I don't have some backup media.
[09:04] <patrick52222> DBO:  2.6.12-10-386
[09:05] <Plitskin> uhmmm... how do you put an entry in the  "applications" menu in the taskbar?
[09:05] <mbelgedhes> that's win's data ?
[09:05] <sethk> Kumo, it's customary to make that kind of file in /etc/init.d, and link to it in /etc/rc2.d, so you can also link it for other runlevels.
[09:05] <sethk> Kumo, I don't know if you are familiar with run levels.
[09:05] <Dust> and I use Raid 0. so I can't try to resize partion.  afraid of losting files.
[09:05] <DBO> patrick52222, /etc/apt/source.list -> pastebin
[09:05] <akonkwa> Hi everyone.   I have problem. I'm installing eclipse, and I downloaded a tar.gz form eclipse.org. I want to exctract it to /opt/Eclipse (I am not sure if this is the right thing to do) but the peemission to do so is denied , using the GUI. So is there a way I can do it in command line?
[09:05] <Kumo> sethk: no, I'm not
[09:06] <Dust> mbelgedhes : not about windows. just for me.for work
[09:06] <s|k> what are some default options I should include in php for basic functionality? I have mysql and gd
[09:06] <SenorY> akonkwa, sudo
[09:06] <AAA> sethk  wouldn't you want to use update-rc.d and automagically put it properly?
[09:07] <shreevatsa> where does aptitude show it? It isn't even showing the same packages as dist-upgrade shows...
[09:07] <patrick52222> DBO: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12295
[09:07] <sethk> AAA, possibly, I'm been editing rc.d files for 30 years so I never even looked it doing it another way
[09:07] <bintut> I would like to make use of my old Sun JavaStation JK (Krups) thin clients to boot via LTSP-4.2 on an Ubuntu GNU/Linux AMD64 server. Due to the fact that I don't have a Sun Sparc machine to compile and build a binary LTSP-4.2 packages for my Sun JavaStation JKs, I am seeking help for whoever can help me build LTSP-4.2 binary packages for my thin clients. You can find relevant informations at the following URLs:
[09:07] <bintut> http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LBE ; http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/JavaStation-HOWTO/index.html ; http://math.univ-lille1.fr/ltsp-sparc/ ; http://people.redhat.com/zaitcev/linux/ ; http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Lab/6125/linux/javastation.html
[09:07] <sethk> Kumo, you are booting to level 2 (because that's the default).
[09:07] <Dust> mbelgedhes : I have question.I'm translating some docs.
[09:07] <sethk> Kumo, that means files in directory /etc/rc2.d are run during startup
[09:07] <AAA> shreevatsa  I am not positive that it does, just a thought that it did. there are a ton of options on the file menu
[09:07] <Kumo> sethk: ok
[09:07] <sethk> Kumo, also rc1.d and rc0.d
[09:08] <sethk> Kumo, everything up to and including your current level
[09:08] <mbelgedhes> ok, Dust  what is that ?
[09:08] <Kumo> sethk: ok
[09:08] <AAA> sethk  crusty ol' hacker...
[09:08] <Plitskin> Hi, I installed yahoo messenger... I want it to appear along with GAIM, and other networking applications in my Applications -> Internet menu... How do I do that? Thanks :)
[09:08] <akonkwa> Senory; sudo what?
[09:08] <sethk> Kumo, so I made a file in /etc/rc2.d that simply does and ifdown and ifup for teh0
[09:08] <tapox> Anyone running Dapper and have their sound break recently?
[09:08] <Miles-> Working great
[09:08] <Dust> and I use Ultraedit. but move that file(changed), then diff. then diff said all content changes.(but I don't)
[09:08] <sethk> Kumo, start the name with S20.  Look at the files in that directory, you'll see the pattern
[09:08] <Dust> mbelgedhes : how can I do? GUM. gimp user manual
[09:08] <Kumo> sethk: let me see
[09:09] <SenorY> akonkwa, sudo tar xcf yourtarfile.tgz /opt/wherever
[09:09] <patrick24601> anyway to get ubuntu firefox current - to 1.5 ?
[09:09] <dsh> Plitskin, Applications > System Tools > Applications Menu Editor
[09:09] <AAA> sethk  that is exactly waht update-rc.d does, it one simple step
[09:09] <shreevatsa> AAA: yeah, but the only interesting option there seems to be "play Minesweeper" :p
[09:09] <Kumo> sethk: there are a lor of S20
[09:09] <mbelgedhes> is this multimedia file huh ?
[09:09] <sethk> AAA, I'm not disagreeing with you.
[09:09] <SenorY> akonkwa, sorry... sudo tar xzf yourtarfile.tgz /opt/wherever
[09:09] <Dust> I wanna works on windows. except compiling
[09:09] <patrick24601> Or do i have to uninstall it and reinstall FF from the mozilla site
[09:09] <sethk> Kumo, AAA has a point, try running the utility he mentioned
[09:09] <Dust> nono.. docbook
[09:09] <sethk> Kumo, it's very likely safer
[09:09] <Dust> just text files
[09:09] <sethk> Kumo, although you can always recover from an error by deleting the file you add
[09:09] <Kumo> sethk: which was?
[09:10] <sethk> update-rc.d, I believe he said
[09:10] <AAA> neither Debby nor Ian were alive 30y ago sethk =p
[09:10] <Kumo> sethk: ok, I"ll try now
[09:10] <sethk> AAA, that's true, but UNIX was
[09:10] <Dust> Ultraedit can't support UTF-8?
[09:10] <AAA> sethk  hehe, indeed well, they were alive just hadn't hacked up debian yet
[09:10] <Plitskin> dsh: thanks
[09:11] <Kumo> sethk: it seems that I need to specify something else
[09:11] <patrick52222> DBO: do you think i need to reinstall ubuntu
[09:11] <DBO> patrick52222, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12296
[09:11] <DBO> patrick52222, made changes to the bottom
[09:11] <Dust> mbelgedhes : I don't know about all. I just gonna reinstall ubuntu. and backup my files to other server.
[09:12] <mbelgedhes> sorry Dust, i think i can't help u about that i don't have experience bout that
[09:12] <bintut> anyone?
[09:12] <Dust> mbelgedhes : anyway thanks. ^^
[09:12] <AAA> update-rc.d -f <script> defaults  (assuming yo9u created the file in /etc/init.d/
[09:12] <jerry_> not sure you try the reboot with initial config?
[09:12] <patrick52222> DBO: where do i put this
[09:12] <Kumo> AAA: ok, I haven't done it yet
[09:12] <Dust> too hard to use Linux. T_T
[09:12] <DBO> patrick52222, add those changes into your /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:12] <Dust> bye all
[09:12] <jerry_> linux not to hard just takes a lot of reading
[09:12] <AAA> linux is simple, it's the users that muck things up
[09:13] <sethk> Kumo, you have to create the script first, I believe.
[09:13] <DBO> jerry_, its better to have documentation than to not have documentation =)
[09:13] <Kumo> sethk: sure, how do I do it?
[09:13] <jerry_> honestly dont know to much about linux myself and already got it almost exactly like my xp box
[09:13] <sethk> Kumo, with any editor
[09:14] <sethk> Kumo, try it out at the command line, to make sure it works.  You'll be doing the equivalent of running network-admin, but cli, obviously
[09:14] <patrick24601> Hey patrick - nice name ;)
[09:14] <sethk> Kumo, which should be somethinglike:    ifdown eth0; ifup eth0
[09:14] <Kumo> sethk: ok
[09:14] <sethk> Kumo, but check me on the command line
[09:14] <patrick52222> wat the command to edit the source list
[09:14] <AAA> if the iface is eth0 that should work
[09:15] <DBO> patrick52222, "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[09:15] <mbelgedhes> just sudo vi /etc/apt/source.lst
[09:15] <AAA> make sure you don't forget your #! (shebang) #!/bin/bash
[09:15] <sethk> patrick24601, or you can use synaptic to modify it
[09:16] <mDot> upgrading to dapper out of sheer boredom isn't a good idea huh...
[09:16] <DBO> mDot, not if it is your primary box
[09:16] <patrick52222> DBO: nope i still get the same error
[09:16] <AAA> mDot  that is the best reason _I_ can think of
[09:17] <poningru> mDot: have a backup
[09:17] <poningru> AAA: rofl
[09:17] <bjv> i did mine because i wanted to see a pretty boot-time chart :|
[09:17] <poningru> hehe
[09:17] <sontek> Hey, did ubuntu not ask me for a root pass when I just installed it?
[09:17] <patrick24601> sthk: how so?
[09:17] <mDot> stopping sudo apt-get dist-upgrade mid-stream is a worse idea i think
[09:17] <dj-fu> yes
[09:17] <AAA> bjv   you can modify the boot splash in the kernel
[09:17] <dj-fu> there is no root pass
[09:17] <dj-fu> !sudo
[09:17] <ubotu> I heard sudo is a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[09:17] <mDot> we'll just ride this one out
[09:17] <Kumo> sethk: well I got disconnected and then with ifup eth0 got connected again
[09:17] <patrick24601> sethk: How so?
[09:18] <sethk> Kumo, good
[09:18] <winston> I have the weirdest bug and it wont go away
[09:18] <sethk> patrick24601, let me look, it's on the menus somewhere.
[09:18] <AAA> winston  take some penicillin?
[09:18] <bjv> AAA: oh nono, there is this program to make a nice poster of system-efficiency during boot
[09:18] <DBO> patrick24601, did you do a "sudo atp-get update"?
[09:18] <winston> AAA no not that
[09:18] <sethk> patrick24601, settings/repositories
[09:18] <DBO> patrick52222, , did you do a "sudo atp-get update"?
[09:18] <AAA> bjv  ah cool
[09:18] <DBO> sorry
[09:18] <bjv> AAA: it's a dapper package i tried to hack into breezy for about 2 seconds, before i just started the upgrade
[09:18] <AAA> winston  so sup ?
[09:19] <AAA> bjv good luck
[09:19] <winston> AAA You know the task bar with the programs and different desktop thats (usually) at the bottom?
[09:19] <mDot> this upgrade is gonna take a while, gonna do some puchups
[09:19] <AAA> no hablo gui
[09:19] <winston> AAA Well mine is stuck in the middle of the screen
[09:19] <Kumo> sethk: so the file that I got to add has to contain ifdown etho; ifup eth0
[09:19] <sethk> Kumo, right.  first line is  #!/bin/sh
[09:19] <winston> AAA Right smack in the center
[09:19] <sethk> Kumo, then those are the second and third lines
[09:19] <patrick24601> I'll take a look...
[09:20] <AAA> winston  I don't know gui stuff sorry
[09:20] <sethk> Kumo, do a chmod +x on the file
[09:20] <sethk> Kumo, put it into /etc/init.d
[09:20] <winston> it floats about all the programs except for the full screen stuph
[09:20] <patrick52222> DBO: i get thie error sudo: atp-get: command not found
[09:20] <sethk> Kumo, then create a link to it in /etc/rc2.d, or use the tool AAA was telling you about
[09:20] <[C] hris> What does apt-get do again?
[09:20] <DBO> patrick52222, oops, typo "sudo apt-get update"
[09:20] <Kumo> sethk: ok, the name of the file? S20...?
[09:20] <AAA> [C] hris  it gets you stuff
[09:21] <[C] hris> well not apt-get but the other apt-auto
[09:21] <patrick24601> sethk: ok went htere...
[09:21] <patrick24601> there
[09:21] <AAA> Kumo  the Sxx tells init what order to start the script just as Kxx will kill in that order
[09:21] <[C] hris> apt-get is to get software via repostories
[09:21] <Kumo> AAA: ok, so what do you recommend me?
[09:21] <AAA> [C] hris  correct
[09:22] <[C] hris> but what does apt-auto do
[09:22] <AAA> Kumo  update-rc.d -f <script name> defaults
[09:22] <AAA> [C] hris  no idea
[09:22] <Plitskin> Uh... sorry if I seem to be doing too many things but... Why can't I list files in my /var/lib/php4 directory?
[09:22] <patrick52222> DBO: yep i have updated but still get the same errors
[09:22] <Kumo> AAA: ok but the name of the file? it doesn't matter?
[09:22] <Plitskin> ls: .: Permission denied
[09:23] <shreevatsa> Plitskin: Maybe you don't have permissions
[09:23] <AAA> Plitskin  must be a permission issue ls -l /var/lib/php4
[09:23] <[C] hris> the command was auto-apt
[09:23] <shreevatsa> Plitskin: Try sudo
[09:23] <Plitskin> I tried it
[09:23] <Plitskin> won't work...
[09:23] <[C] hris> I think it builds a .deb file
[09:23] <AAA> Plitskin  then you need sudo -s <-- gives you a root-like shell
[09:23] <shreevatsa> Plitskin: Can you see the directory?
[09:23] <DBO> patrick52222, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12297 two new ones at the bottom, add those on, then update, then try again...
[09:23] <shreevatsa> Plitskin: First, try "sudo ls -ld /var/lib/php4"
[09:24] <[C] hris> i dont know checkinstall needs it
[09:24] <sontek> Hey, what are the packages for lisp?  I did apt-cache search lisp and it doesn't show an actually lisp compiler
[09:24] <bjv> so is it bad that i use   ' su' then commands  instead of 'sudo command'   :\
[09:24] <bjv> because my root password is shorter & easier then my user pwrod?
[09:24] <[C] hris> i think auto-apt just keeps track of the ones you do have
[09:24] <shreevatsa> Plitskin: It's hard to believe that root doesn't have permissions to view a directory....
[09:24] <AAA> yeah, you need root for php4 files
[09:24] <Plitskin> hmmm... when I try sudo ls nothig happens
[09:24] <bjv> nothing?
[09:24] <Kumo> sethk: can I use any name on the file?
[09:24] <Plitskin> maybe there's nothing in there?
[09:24] <[C] hris> sudo ls -al
[09:24] <patrick52222> DBO: yep i have updated with the new code but still get the same errors
[09:24] <bjv> is it empty?
[09:24] <AAA> bjv su gives you root, sudo acts like root
[09:24] <sethk> Kumo, yes.  the link should start with S20.  AAA explained about the S## prefix
[09:25] <shreevatsa> bjv: Frankly, I don't see why Ubuntu uses sudo...
[09:25] <DBO> patrick52222, remove those entries from your sources.list
[09:25] <Kumo> sethk: yes, I got that
[09:25] <AAA> sethk  to make it easier to support I think
[09:25] <Plitskin> here's the result of sudo -ld
[09:25] <Plitskin> drwx-wx-wt  2 root root 4096 2006-03-08 03:00 /var/lib/php4
[09:25] <bjv> shreevatsa: to fake-keep us safe from ourselves. :\
[09:26] <bjv> shreevatsa: and so bash-macro's only wipe out our entire home directories, because we are idiots.
[09:26] <AAA> Plitskin  that is how it should read, just use sudo and it will be fine
[09:26] <[C] hris> anyone know why i can run this from a panel icon? but can in a terminal ? "wine /home/chris/.wine/drive_c/World of Warcraft/WoW.exe -opengl"
[09:26] <bjv> rather then wipe out our entire system, because we are idiots.
[09:26] <[C] hris> the path is correct but it tells me the path isnt correct
[09:26] <patrick52222> DBO: i have removed them now
[09:26] <bjv> [C] hris: the spaces
[09:26] <bjv> escape them out with backslaches
[09:26] <s|k> aptitude is so dumb
[09:26] <AAA> yeah, your "
[09:26] <s|k> it's a joke
[09:26] <iplgecko> Hey does anyone here know how to copy a file to a wine directory?
[09:26] <shreevatsa> bjv: But if you run the bash-macro (what's that, anyway?) with sudo, you'll still wipe out everything...
[09:27] <[C] hris> i've tried that too
[09:27] <bjv> wine /home/chris/.wine/drive_c/World\ of\ Warcraft/WoW.exe -opengl
[09:27] <Plitskin> I'm getting a bit confused @_@ but thanks for your suggestions
[09:27] <bjv> ^ likes that
[09:27] <[C] hris> anyone know why i can run this from a panel icon? but can in a terminal ? "wine /home/chris/.wine/drive_c/World\ o\f Warcraft/WoW.exe -opengl"
[09:27] <AAA> [C] hris  wine " /some/long file with /spaces" foo ...
[09:27] <[C] hris> well
[09:27] <[C] hris> k
[09:28] <AAA> bjv  I think that needs qoutes, i could be lying
[09:28] <iplgecko> Can anyone here tell me how to add a font to ~/.wine/dirve_c/windows/fons  ?
[09:28] <iplgecko> fonts*
[09:28] <bjv> single quotes could do it too, i guess
[09:28] <twidget> My screen doesn't look right after installing Ubuntu for the first time.
[09:29] <AAA> actually the \ (shell escapes) should be suffiecient
[09:29] <shreevatsa> bjv: In fact, I find it disturbing that five minutes after I do a sudo, I can do something "normally" and still wipe out everything
[09:29] <iplgecko> sigh
[09:29] <bjv> shreevatsa: ?
[09:29] <shreevatsa> bjv: You sudo once; it remembers you for fifteen minutes
[09:29] <patrick52222> DBO: do i need to reinstall ubuntu
[09:29] <Kumo> AAA and sethk: done it
[09:29] <bjv> shreevatsa: isnt it for five minutes after you do sudo, all calls to sudo can be used with out a password
[09:30] <AAA> shreevatsa  I think there is a way to set the time sudo reamins in your shell, maybe a PAM setting? I forget
[09:30] <DBO> patrick52222, need to? I dont think so... but can I fix your issue?  no...
[09:30] <bjv> then it times out, and asks for the pw again
[09:30] <[C] hris> now it does nothing
[09:30] <[C] hris> lol
[09:30] <AAA> Kumo  w0000 WTF
[09:30] <Kumo> AAA and sethk: now, reboot?
[09:30] <AAA> er WTG go go
[09:30] <iplgecko> Does anyone here know how to add a font to ~/.wine/drive_c/windows/fonts ?  I asked in in #winehq but noone replied
[09:30] <patrick52222> DBO: ok thanks for trying
[09:30] <AAA> Kumo  or just init 2
[09:30] <babo> What's the story with installing things using sudo ? ... everytime I try to do it, I get permission denied and I have to go into root ...
[09:30] <Kumo> AAA: I done understand that that I think is something good :)
[09:30] <jerry_> i had to use show button to install each font in wine
[09:30] <shreevatsa> bjv: Ok, five/fifteen whatever... If it's not going to ask for a password, it's dangerous IMHO
[09:30] <patrick52222> DBO: there shouldnt be any probs as it is a fresh install
[09:31] <DBO> patrick52222, the one we just looked at was a fresh install?
[09:31] <patrick52222> yes
[09:31] <babo> iplgecko: what exactly does wine actually work for ?
[09:31] <iplgecko> Can anyone here help me?
[09:31] <DBO> odd...
[09:31] <jerry_> but youll have to go to the wine hq under the instilation to get the fonts
[09:31] <patrick52222> very
[09:31] <DBO> I wonder if it has to do with the gb locale
[09:31] <iplgecko> babo: you mean what am I using it for?
[09:31] <jerry_> wine works for windows apps in linux
[09:31] <AAA> Kumo  WTG == way to go, WTF == what the f#*^
[09:31] <babo> iplgecko: sorry though, I can't help you with your problem ?  ...
[09:31] <shreevatsa> bjv: On a machine with just one user, I can see absolutely NO reason to use sudo instead of a proper root account
[09:31] <iplgecko> babo: oh its ok thanks for replying anyhow :)
[09:32] <babo> iplgecko: well, yes - I'd be interested
[09:32] <Kumo> AAA: lol, ok
[09:32] <iplgecko> babo: I was trying to instal steam and CSS but I need to add tahoma.ttf
[09:32] <iplgecko> babo: before anything
[09:32] <jerry_> haveing problems with steam and wine at the moment
[09:32] <babo> iplgecko: oh, ok - good luck ...
[09:32] <iplgecko> babo: thanks
[09:32] <jerry_> says it will run but when i get to last disk it doesnt see the files on it
[09:33] <bjv> shreevatsa:  i just log into my machine as root, and su into my user account,    it 'is' still a strategic reduction of privileges.
[09:33] <AAA> Kumo  and you can switch runlevels without rebooting to test, just use init 2 and it will go through your init files in rc2
[09:33] <bjv> shreevatsa: even though i do it in reverse, from the normal way.
[09:33] <Kumo> AAA: sudo init 2
[09:33] <AAA> bjv holy cow, you live very dangerously!!!
[09:33] <shreevatsa> bjv: lol
[09:33] <AAA> Kumo  yeah, that should do it
[09:34] <bjv> shreevatsa:  i guess i could just run X and read emails as root.    but my user account has everything *like gaim settings* stored in .dotfiles
[09:34] <Kumo> AAA: I did it
[09:34] <bliss1_> good morning folks
[09:34] <AAA> Kumo  and it is going through the services then?
[09:34] <jerry_> morning
[09:34] <sontek> is there a reason Ubuntu has firefox 1.0.7 as default browser? and apt doesn't see that it needs an upgrade
[09:34] <bliss1_> jerry_ morning
[09:34] <bjv>  /root/.whatever is just for this machine  but /home/username/.dotfiles is something i can copy, mount out, and take with me to other machines.
[09:34] <shreevatsa> bjv: I log in normally (user account), but to become root, I've set up a two-letter alias ("ssh root@... ")
[09:34] <bjv> i guess otherwise i would just use root, and forget this whole su thing
[09:34] <DBO> sontek, because the newest version of firefox in the repos is 1.0.7
[09:35] <AAA> shreevatsa  that is smart
[09:35] <Kumo> AAA: I cannot see any output, do I have to see anything?
[09:35] <DBO> !tell sontek about FF1.5
[09:35] <sontek> DBO, why not 1.5
[09:35] <bjv> shreevatsa: alias?
[09:35] <bjv> shreevatsa: i didnt think of that. :P
[09:35] <bliss1_> if i use the shutdown -h now option is everything I have been working on saved?
[09:35] <bliss1_> DBO: happy easter
[09:35] <AAA> bjv yeah, cat ~/.bashrc
[09:35] <Kumo> AAA: do I have to see something here?
[09:36] <DBO> bliss1_, says you =P
[09:36] <AAA> bliss1_  if you saved it =p
[09:36] <southern> hi all
[09:36] <bjv> shreevatsa: i wonder what is more dangerous. trading private keys between machines and doing passwordless logins
[09:36] <jerry_> not sure i just check the save option on restart
[09:36] <DBO> hi southern
[09:36] <southern> pls help, it seems my squid jammed...
[09:36] <bjv> shreevatsa: or aliasing    srdm to   ssh user:Password@randommachine
[09:36] <southern> I can't remove it
[09:36] <bliss1_> AAA: how to save it? updatedb?
[09:36] <AAA> Kumo  you should, it's been a while since I did that, just reboot ... I am tired, brain i s d y i n g...
[09:36] <patrick24601> sethk: can I please get some more help on getting up to FF 1.5 ?
[09:37] <bliss1_> DBO: well your here thats happy
[09:37] <sethk> patrick24601, ask,  someone will know the answer
[09:37] <DBO> !tell patrick24601 about FF1.5
[09:37] <patrick24601> I have EasyUbuntu installed so I believe that my universe and all that jazz is straightened out
[09:37] <AAA> bliss1_  that has nothing to do with your work, that simply updates your files on your box. as long as you saved your OO doc or whatever you are good to go
[09:37] <sethk> bliss1_, updatedb only updates the file database, that's only used by locate to search for files
[09:37] <bjv> with the alias, your passwords would be stored in plaintext in the .rc ...
[09:37] <patrick24601> thats DBO xo
[09:37] <patrick24601> thanks dbo xo
[09:37] <Kumo> AAA: ok I'll try it now, and I'll tell you how was
[09:38] <bjv> i guess to compramise either method you would need to be able to read the users home directory.
[09:38] <AAA> bjv not if you had keys set up or keyboard auth
[09:38] <DBO> patrick24601, if that xo is meaning hugs and kisses you better be female, otherwise I only take payment in coffee =P
[09:38] <AAA> bjv and crack the ssh key ....
[09:38] <bjv> keys are stored in your home directory too, though
[09:38] <AAA> encrypted
[09:38] <bjv> if you can read someones .bashrc
[09:38] <bjv> you can copy their ssh keys too
[09:38] <patrick24601> coffee then - large and black
[09:38] <AAA> no no no don't put passwd's there...
[09:38] <shreevatsa> bjv: But it's just one single machine. (alias rt='ssh -X root@localhost -i ~/.ssh/id_for_root')
[09:38] <bjv> :P
[09:39] <AAA> you need the hash and the salt silly
[09:39] <sethk> bjv, not necessarily.  if they have sense they'll have changed the permissions
[09:39] <bliss1_> AAA: thing is rebbot does not work I could tell you the story but for simplicity whats the diffrence between reboot and shutdown?
[09:39] <shreevatsa> bjv: And the ssh-key is not in my .bashrc! :p
[09:39] <bliss1_> sethk: thanks
[09:39] <AAA> bliss1_  uh...one recycles power the other halts the box
[09:39] <poningru> shreevatsa: what are you doing?
[09:39] <GTroy> !mount
[09:39] <ubotu> I heard mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[09:39] <poningru> shreevatsa: its in .ssh
[09:39] <bjv> yeah.
[09:40] <shreevatsa> poningru: Yes
[09:40] <bjv> which is in your home directory
[09:40] <bjv> and is everyway exactly as secure as the .baschrc
[09:40] <shreevatsa> bjv: Yeah, but if someone can already read all *my* files (which means that have my password), they can also do sudo, anyway
[09:40] <southern> update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/squid: file does not exist
[09:40] <southern> invoke-rc.d: unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/squid not found.
[09:40] <southern> dpkg: error processing squid (--configure):
[09:40] <bjv> shreevatsa: yah.
[09:40] <southern> I can't reinstall and remove JAMMED
[09:40] <bliss1_> AAA: ok so not much diffrence
[09:40] <bjv> shreevatsa: i guess they both have the same Achilles heel
[09:41] <AAA> ok, you think jtr is gonna crack rc5 with one computer before the box gets shut off or the hacker is caught? jeez it is called ssh for a reason
[09:41] <southern> how can I repair squid?
[09:41] <shreevatsa> bjv: My .bashrc is world-readable, but not the ssh-key.
[09:41] <Cooner750> anyone know of a free DynDNS updater for Ubuntu?
[09:41] <bjv> oh. why on earth is your .bashrc world readable?
[09:41] <DBO> Cooner750, noip does have one
[09:41] <AAA> southern  do you even know what squid is? and why didn't you finish installing it, and why exactly do you need it?
[09:42] <[C] hris> Even if you have the ssh key dont you still need the log in?
[09:42] <[C] hris> or password
[09:42] <bliss1_> AAA: i am doing a howto and the final command is shutdown -r now but I cannot so i will do shutdown -h now
[09:42] <method|> I had dma enabled on my dvd rom drive and it was working. now today all of a sudden DMA stopped being enabled and I cant get it to be enabled. Why would it do that and how can I get it back to normal?
[09:42] <AAA> bjv cause that is the debian default =p
[09:42] <shreevatsa> bjv: Actually, I'm not even sure it is... let me check :)
[09:42] <mike_> the uodate manager said:::>W: GPG error: http://mirror.ubuntulinux.nl breezy-seveas Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 49A120FD1135D466
[09:42] <southern> squid is a proxy/cache and I need it
[09:42] <mike_> wht does tha mean?
[09:43] <jerry_> you have to enable dma
[09:43] <jerry_> then save it to the config
[09:43] <AAA> method|  edit the /etc/init/d/hdparm file to suit your needs then restart that service
[09:43] <vladuz976> can i install ubuntu on a separate partion of a drive connected as slave?
[09:43] <method|> AAA: I already tried that
[09:43] <southern> AAA: do you know why I can't remove it?
[09:43] <method|> AAA: how can I restart the service?
[09:43] <mike_> wht is  public key?>>> NO_PUBKEY 49A120FD1135D466
[09:44] <conmiweb> hi
[09:44] <sethk> method|, you can run hdparm at the command line and turn on DMA mode.
[09:44] <conmiweb> how can i extend my ubuntu ext3 partition?
[09:44] <jerry_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA
[09:44] <AAA> method|  what does hdparm -d say? if it says off you didn't edit the script proper or hdparm is not in /etc/init.d/rc2.d
[09:44] <sethk> method|, but the only way it would be off is if you updated your kernel and goofed
[09:44] <method|> i dont remember updating my kernel
[09:45] <jerry_> mine was off by default
[09:45] <method|> i have done a yum update though
[09:45] <method|> i dont know if that updates the kernel
[09:45] <method|> the thing that confuses me is that is was working yesterday
[09:45] <method|> now it wont work
[09:45] <twidget> My monitor can handle resolutions higher than 1024x768, yet they're not shown. Have I done something wrong?
[09:45] <jerry_> had to set it whne i configured xine
[09:45] <method|> and i get this error when i try hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc
[09:45] <method|>  HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted
[09:45] <AAA> southern  yeah there is an argument to apt-get (I forget) you can also put it in your /etc/apt.conf file and tell it to ignore keys, or you can just import the key and tell apt about it
[09:45] <bliss1_> AAA: did you see my last post to you
[09:45] <twidget> I've installed the nvidia drivers
[09:45] <AAA> method|  sudo
[09:45] <jerry_> ya actually have to muck about with nvidia
[09:46] <method|> AAA: i am root
[09:46] <jerry_> lemme get the invida config page i used
[09:46] <twidget> Anyone willing to do a little newbie hand-holding?
[09:46] <AAA> method|  and you get that error? makey no sense.  bliss1_ no
[09:46] <jerry_> http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch04.html#id2531664
[09:46] <conmiweb> how can i extend my ubuntu ext3 partition?
[09:46] <AAA> gpart
[09:47] <AAA> conmiweb  gpart will do that for you if you mean make it larger or smaller
[09:47] <method|> AAA: i know :/
[09:47] <AAA> method|  oh oh oh, that drive doesn't support dma then, do an -i on it
[09:47] <bliss1_> AAA; : i am doing a howto and the final command is shutdown -r now but I cannot so i will do shutdown -h now
[09:47] <conmiweb> i ussed live gparted, but it only let me do ir smaller
[09:47] <conmiweb> and i want to do larger
[09:47] <AAA> method|  or actually an -I
[09:47] <method|> AAA: are you sure?
[09:48] <method|> because DMA was enabled before
[09:48] <AAA> bliss1_  that is not a question
[09:48] <method|> what do you mean do -I?
[09:48] <babo> hmmm ... this is weird. I can open a file and write to it with pico, but when I open it with emacs, it's read only ?
[09:48] <Kumo> AAA and sethk: success!!!!!
[09:48] <AAA> hdparm -I method| or.....hdparm --help or....man hdparm
[09:48] <sethk> Kumo, excellent
[09:48] <conmiweb> i ussed live gparted, but it only let me do ir smaller and i want to do it larger
[09:48] <AAA> Kumo  coolio
[09:48] <sethk> Kumo, it's a hack, but it works.
[09:48] <AAA> on that note, I is o u t
[09:49] <Mend_> anyone used dial-up in ubuntu?
[09:49] <Kumo> sethk: yeah, I don't mind, it woks fine
[09:49] <method|> AAA: i did -I now what?
[09:49] <Mend_> i can't connect to internet. Modem is recognized by ubuntu
[09:49] <sethk> method|, have you updated your kernel?
[09:49] <Mend_> but it says pid 0835 blocked pppd
[09:49] <method|> i dont think so
[09:50] <conmiweb> i ussed live gparted, but it only let me do ir smaller and i want to do it larger
[09:50] <doms> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12298
[09:50] <method|> i did do a yum update (i am on fc5 right now)
[09:50] <method|> i dont know if that updates the kernel or not
[09:50] <method|> lets assume it does
[09:50] <Kumo> AAA and sethk: thank you very much guys, you did a good job, now I need some rest
[09:50] <method|> what would that do?
[09:50] <method|> would that mess things up?
[09:50] <Mend_> i can't connect to internet. Modem is recognized by ubuntu but it says pid 0835 blocked pppd
[09:50] <sethk> method|, It could.  I've seen it happen
[09:51] <sethk> method|, if the kernel doesn't have support for a particular IDE chip, it reverts to PIO compatibility mode
[09:51] <sethk> method|, which works, but crawls
[09:51] <method|> i see
[09:51] <bjv> woah, you cannot ban yourself from a channel even if you have full ops??
[09:51] <bliss1_> AAA: my question is if I cannot invoke shutdown -r now then the only option is to invoke shutdown -h now  will I loose ant data by doing a shutdown rather than a reboot?
[09:51] <bjv> crazy
[09:51] <bjv> a burrito so hot, not even _you can eat it
[09:51] <Kumo> AAA and sethk: see u
[09:52] <sethk> Kumo, 'night
[09:52] <Mend_> i can't connect to internet. Modem is recognized by ubuntu but it says pid 0835 blocked pppd
[09:52] <conmiweb> i ussed live gparted, but it only let me do ir smaller and i want to do it larger, please help!
[09:52] <Kumo> sethk: 'night
[09:53] <tin_nqn> hello
[09:53] <bliss1_> DBO:  my question is if I cannot invoke shutdown -r now then the only option is to invoke shutdown -h now  will I loose ant data by doing a shutdown rather than a reboot?
[09:53] <sn0wman> hi
[09:53] <cobrien> greetings earthlings
[09:54] <tin_nqn> how can I donwload only the files that I don't have yet with ftp from command line?
[09:54] <conmiweb> somebody can help me please?
[09:55] <tin_nqn> mget overwrite each file, no?
[09:55] <La_PaRCa> !log
[09:55] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, La_PaRCa
[09:55] <La_PaRCa> !logs
[09:55] <ubotu> logs are at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/
[09:55] <tin_nqn> conmiweb... what happen?
[09:55] <PwcrLinux> tin_nqn: look in Places>Connect to server..  it's a Netalius FTP
[09:56] <conmiweb> how can i extend my ubuntu ext3 partition?
[09:56] <conmiweb> i ussed live gparted, but it only let me do ir smaller and i want to do it larger, please help!
[09:56] <La_PaRCa> where can I see the LoCobot logs?
[09:57] <bliss1_> PwcrLinux:   my question is if I cannot invoke shutdown -r now then the only option is to invoke shutdown -h now  will I loose ant data by doing a shutdown rather than a reboot?
[09:57] <tin_nqn> sorry but I'm working between two hosting server by an ssh connection
[09:57] <PwcrLinux> bliss1_: timed event or manually?
[09:57] <cobrien> bliss: if you have saved your data to disk, you'll be fine either way
[09:58] <echostorm> hey guys, can anyone help? i need to enable my svideo out for my tv (nvidia card) i successfuully was able to do it with seperate desktops, but i actually am try to do it in a twinview type of mode for videos
[09:58] <cobrien> bliss: and the lazy way to "shutdown -r now" is "reboot"  :)
[09:58] <tin_nqn> so the only tool I have is ftp command line client, or not?
[09:58] <sontek> you could try typing "init 6"
[09:58] <sontek> :p
[09:58] <PwcrLinux> tin_nqn: are you on the Gnome desktop?
[09:59] <robitaille> La_PaRCa  http://netz.smurf.noris.de/logs/freenode/
[09:59] <bliss1_> PwcrLinux: at the prompt right now -manually I suppose
[09:59] <cobrien> sure..   6 is farther out of the way though...  :)  albeit 'geekier' :)
[09:59] <La_PaRCa> robitaille, yeah, shoulda looked around the wiki first. Thanks D.
[09:59] <conmiweb> how can i extend my ubuntu ext3 partition?
[09:59] <conmiweb> i ussed live gparted, but it only let me do ir smaller and i want to do it larger, please help!
[09:59] <tin_nqn> yes, but... it is not a solution. My connections is to a server from another server wich I connected by ssh
[10:00] <robitaille> La_PaRCa:  I did a irc whois command on LoCoBot  :)
[10:00] <PwcrLinux> bliss1_: You can do  'sudo reboot' if in case stuck in terminal box or adverted into full screen..
[10:00] <cobrien> tin_nqn: check out scp
[10:00] <jerry_> set mine up when i installed ubuntu maxed it useing the whole drive
[10:00] <cobrien> anyone going to get one of those new virtualization chips from AMD & Intel?
[10:01] <bjv> that isnt part of the AMD64 spec, is it?
[10:01] <cobrien> as far as I know, it's a sepparate spec
[10:01] <cobrien> different chip...
[10:01] <cobrien> they'll continue to make the normal 64s
[10:02] <bjv> i dont have any real reason to run a virtual os.
[10:02] <jerry_> well bugger i kills xine
[10:02] <bjv> im not sure anyone does. :|
[10:02] <cobrien> I'd like to dump a few of these test boxes and save some space
[10:02] <tin_nqn> cobrien... my source server only has ftp
[10:02] <cobrien> tin_nqn: do both servers have ssh?
[10:02] <tin_nqn> nop
[10:02] <cobrien> well why the heck not?
[10:03] <bliss1_> PwcrLinux: ok i will try to make the question clear  I have just done a howto the last command is shutdown -r now ok , but without going into a long reason why I cannot reboot if I do shutnow -h now will I loose any data
[10:03] <cobrien> tin: do you have local access to the source server?
[10:03] <tin_nqn> nop. Only an ftp account
[10:04] <cobrien> tin_nqn: ahh. ok..  and what exactly do you want to do?
[10:04] <PwcrLinux> bliss1_: unsaved workspace would lose..
[10:04] <bjv>  bliss1_: why does it want you to shut down the box?
[10:04] <tin_nqn> Make a copy from a server to the another one.
[10:04] <bjv> bliss1_: did you just change the kernel or something?
[10:04] <jerry_> well going to finish watching my movie and hit the rack good night and good morning folks
[10:05] <tin_nqn> I used mget command into an ftp session
[10:05] <tin_nqn> and was ok
[10:05] <cobrien> bjv: servers...  there are tons of idle servers in the world...  If you could combine the workload of 3 boxes into one computer running different operating systems, you could save space, power, battery backup time, generator time, and maintanence costs.
[10:05] <tin_nqn> but, stupid of me, I delete some files..
[10:05] <bliss1_> PwcrLinux: so how to save before shutdown????
[10:05] <_Avatar_> hello!
[10:05] <bliss1_> bjw: just a sec
[10:05] <twidget> I've installed and activated my nvidia drivers, yet I'm still limited to 1024x768. What else can I try?
[10:06] <PwcrLinux> bliss1_: I'm not sure,, someone will tell you in here.. anyone??
[10:06] <bjv> cobrien: i can see that.
[10:06] <tin_nqn> so I want re-download only the files that aren't into my destination server
[10:06] <bjv>  cobrien: you;d also get some comical single points of failure :P
[10:06] <bliss1_> PwcrLinux: ok thanks
[10:06] <tin_nqn> do you understand me?
[10:06] <twidget> Also, my Windows partition is mounting as sda1. How do I get it to stop that?
[10:07] <bjv> cobrien: i know what you mean though, a linux box, a windows box and a novell machine or something all sitting at 3% load.
[10:08] <Ch4OSm4n> buongiorno a tutti
[10:08] <cobrien> bjv: possibly :)   but if you have at least 2-3 of those servers to back you up, you could merely bring up the virtual OSs in a different server and have them run the tasks.  The larger picture here is the ability to manage resources across tens & hundreds of servers.  If web servers are not needed at the moment, but database servers are, you can bring down the web server OS and bring up the DB OS.
[10:08] <bjv> cobrien: slap all three into one box, and you;re small business might actually be able to keep up all their servers for more then 45 seconds if they loose power.
[10:08] <bjv> though, if you have lost power. why do you need your servers up.
[10:09] <bjv> eh.
[10:09] <bliss1_> bjw: i have two os's ubuntu and sarge they have 2.6 kernel to use my labtop keypad in sarge I had to disable USB legacy in  BIOS since then i can only shutdown not reboot
[10:09] <cobrien> bjv: heh... usually...   I don't even try to last through blackouts unless it's datacenter stuff...  the small/medium businesses I support all must necessarily stop production after their workstation batteries run out.
[10:09] <_Avatar_> Anyone from Brazil online now?
[10:10] <bjv> cobrien: exactly. if the workstations are down and so are the network lines, you dont really need to have the servers us.
[10:10] <bjv> *up
[10:10] <bliss1_> bjv: i have two os's ubuntu and sarge they have 2.6 kernel to use my labtop keypad in sarge I had to disable USB legacy in  BIOS since then i can only shutdown not reboot
[10:10] <PwcrLinux> xlogik: No ping in here pls
[10:10] <bjv> bliss1_: oh. the question is that you want to shut down, and the faq says reboot?
[10:11] <bliss1_> bjv: yep its a howto
[10:12] <_Avatar_> anyone could get XGL + ATI + KDE working alltogether?
[10:12] <bjv> bliss1_: just shut down.   with a reboot, memory never looses power, but there is no way for the new kernel you are bringing up to be able to constructively use those not-lost states of memory
[10:13] <bliss1_> bjv: you have lost me i am sorry
[10:13] <PwcrLinux> bliss1_: let me find in wiki site
[10:13] <bjv> bliss1_: starting ubuntu after a reboot is no different then starting it after a shutdown
[10:14] <bjv> bliss1_: there is no information saved in the reboot, that you would loose with a cold shut down
[10:14] <PwcrLinux> bliss1_: Hmm wiki unable to find search for shutdown
[10:14] <bjv> if you need to shutdown to change a bios setting, but the faq says you should reboot
[10:15] <bliss1_> bjv: so is the answer no if i do a shiutdowm as opposed to a reboot I will not loose any data ??? yes yes
[10:15] <bjv> yes. if you do the shutdown instead you will loose no data
[10:15] <cobrien> bliss1_: If you have saved all your opened data to the disk, it will not make a difference between shutting down or rebooting.
[10:16] <angelbm> good morning
[10:16] <cobrien> bliss1_: let's say you had a Text document open and you haven't saved the data to the disk and then you typed, "shutdown -h now"   You will lose that data.
[10:16] <cobrien> but if you saved it, you'll be fine.
[10:16] <bliss1_> cobrien: that i understand
[10:17] <cobrien> bliss1_: cool.  :)
[10:17] <bjv> as far as i know, the only advantage to rebooting is that it is faster
[10:17] <cobrien> that is the only advantage
[10:17] <bliss1_> cobrien: sweet
[10:17] <cobrien> bliss1_: how long have you been using linux?
[10:17] <bjv> i guess you dont have to fool with posting, and your server comes back up a little faster
[10:18] <cobrien> you still need to POST, but you don't have to sit next to the server to hit the power button.
[10:18] <bliss1_> cobrien: since jan without windows about a tear with
[10:18] <bliss1_> year
[10:18] <bjv> cobrien:  oh, do you still post?
[10:18] <bjv> i only ever init 0 :\
[10:19] <bjv> cobrien: surely there is a way to reload the system without posting and re discovering drives, etc
[10:19] <bjv> i mean... i can do that in windows98.. :P
[10:19] <bjv> hold shift, click reboot :P
[10:20] <cobrien> bjv: there is a way, but I'm not advanced enough to do it in FreeBSD, which is what I am using as a firewall...   I wanted to boot to a cd-rom that runs a tripwire scan of the files on the disk and when the disk checks out, hand off to the kernel on the hard drive
[10:20] <doms> what is the difference between FSF and Opensource people?
[10:21] <cobrien> doms: not much :)
[10:21] <bliss1_> cobrien: thanks for your support
[10:21] <doms> what is the difference between FSF and Opensource people?
[10:21] <cobrien> bliss1_: any time bro :)   so you done with windows?
[10:21] <bliss1_> bjv; thanks also
[10:21] <doms> why they split
[10:21] <bliss1_> cobrien: yep
[10:21] <ompaul> doms, they did not, FSF is a subset of OSS
[10:21] <cobrien> bliss1_: why, may I ask?
[10:22] <doms> what is OSS?
[10:22] <cobrien> open source software?
[10:22] <ompaul> doms open source software
[10:22] <doms> whos the best among FSF and OSS?
[10:22] <bliss1_> cobrien: well its because there is no challenge for me
[10:22] <cobrien> doms: you should look that up in Wikipedia
[10:22] <cobrien> bliss1_: what kind of challenge?
[10:23] <ompaul> doms this is not a chat channel join #ubuntu-offtopic this is a help channel for ubuntu
[10:23] <doms> ok
[10:23] <bliss1_> ompaul: hi  weather report --happy easter
[10:23] <ompaul> doms as for best read http://www.gnu.org and http://www.opensource.org/
[10:23] <doms> can u give some channel so i can know further info.
[10:23] <PwcrLinux> Hello ompaul :)
[10:24] <ompaul> bliss1_, 8oC cloudy and many happy returns
[10:24] <ompaul> morning PwcrLinux
[10:25] <PwcrLinux> Hmm, I might to add weather temp on my box, brb (digging into system prefs)
[10:25] <bjv> bliss1_: oh, just to scare you. :)
[10:25] <bjv> bliss1_:  there is a 0.00001% chance that it _will_ make a difference.
[10:25] <bjv> when this all blows up in your face, remember: "a guy on the internet said it was OK"     :)
[10:26] <patrick52222> !java
[10:26] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[10:26] <bliss1_> cobrien: well how about you cannot use postfix in windows and certainly not with  TLS capability are configured to support ephemeral keying
[10:26] <bliss1_> bjv: thanks
[10:26] <patrick52222> !frostwire
[10:26] <bjv> bliss1_: lol no problem
[10:26] <savage> hi
[10:28] <_Avatar_> quit
[10:28] <cld_tx> where you all from
[10:29] <bliss1_> bjv: where do you get you stats
[10:29] <ali_baba> hi can i use unbunto as server
[10:29] <bliss1_> ompaul: pretty warm yesterday teatime
[10:29] <superm1> so I have been working at getting Xgl going with my dapper laptop.  I can get it to work from the repo version of the ATI drivers, but with the binary from ATI.com, Xgl won't work.  Is there something else that needs to be done to make those drivers go?
[10:29] <PwcrLinux> aha, I found it hehe it's not system prefs, it's was on taskbar (Add to panel) for a weather :)
[10:30] <cld_tx> hi all
[10:30] <bliss1_> bjv: got to go se you
[10:31] <patrick52222> wat the name of that torrent client witha frog logo
[10:31] <Mend_> i can't connect to internet. Modem is recognized by ubuntu but it says pid 0835 blocked pppd
[10:31] <DBO> azureas
[10:31] <bliss1_> cobrien: well catch you later
[10:31] <Mend_> what is pid?
[10:31] <bliss1_> DBO: just keep drinking
[10:31] <patrick52222> DBO: i done the extreme and reinstalled ubuntu its all working now
[10:31] <patrick52222> !azureas
[10:31] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, patrick52222
[10:31] <DBO> patrick24601, ok, well done
[10:32] <DBO> patrick52222, I spelt it wrong... sorry
[10:32] <bliss1_> patrick52222: hi hows  it going
[10:32] <Mend_> i can't connect to internet. Modem is recognized by ubuntu but it says pid 0835 blocked pppd
[10:33] <patrick52222> blissi_:it going ok
[10:33] <patrick52222> !java
[10:33] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[10:33] <nicklas> can i only mount ntfs with read acces, and not read and write acces?
[10:33] <bliss1_> patrick52222: get my package
[10:33] <DBO> nicklas, NTFS on linux is read only
[10:34] <DBO> nicklas, writing to NTFS will fubar the disk
[10:34] <Mend_> is there anyone who used dial-up with ubuntu? please, help!!!
[10:34] <nicklas> DBO: I've done it in suse i think :)
[10:34] <patrick52222> blissi_:Yep posting it ta day on the way to work should be with you thursday i would say
[10:34] <DBO> nicklas, yes, with captive NTFS, it doesnt work correctly in ubuntu, and its still risky
[10:35] <bliss1_> patrick52222: thanks
[10:35] <nicklas> DBO: Allright, thanks m8
[10:35] <Mend_> is there anyone who used dial-up with ubuntu? please, help!!!
[10:36] <doms> anybody can offer us to host a homepage for our organization, were currently advocating the ubuntu OS in our place?
[10:36] <bjv> bliss1_: my ass, dear bliss. i get all my statistics from when i pull them out my ass.
[10:36] <PwcrLinux> bjv: bliss left
[10:36] <vladuz976> i installed to /dev/hdd5 as root. what do i enter into grub? i have (hd3,4) and that doesn't work
[10:36] <bjv> PwcrLinux: i know.
[10:37] <doms> anybody can offer us to host a homepage for our organization, were currently advocating the ubuntu OS in our place?
[10:37] <Mend_> is there anyone who used dial-up with ubuntu? please, help!!!
[10:37] <bjv> i do
[10:37] <doms> yes me
[10:37] <doms> go to linmodem.com
[10:37] <Mend_> is there anyone who used dial-up with ubuntu? please, help!!!
[10:37] <vladuz976> anybody here know about hard drive naming in Grub?
[10:37] <doms> or conexant.com
[10:37] <CraiZE> doms what you need hosting for ?
[10:37] <DBO> !patience
[10:37] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Please be aware there are a lot of questions, but only maybe few who might know the answer for you. Please be patient. Your attitude may determine their willingness to help you.
[10:37] <bjv> Mend_: what it the problem?
[10:37] <doms> our organization
[10:37] <bjv> s/it/is
[10:38] <doms> we want that our homepage can be publish
[10:38] <CraiZE> what organization ?
[10:38] <fiendskull9> hey guys
[10:38] <doms> ubuntu green
[10:38] <doms> campaign
[10:38] <CraiZE> ah
[10:38] <bjv> doms: if you produce code, sourceforge will give you webspace
[10:39] <doms> aah webspace?
[10:39] <Mend_> bjv: the problem is i have done everything, installed slmodem, configured dial up but it doesn't connect to internet. it says pid blocked pppd
[10:39] <bjv> doms: probably similar organizations would offer some for non-code producers. i dunno, though
[10:39] <bjv> Mend_: which process is using the modem?
[10:39] <bjv> probably just another pppd you can kill
[10:40] <Mend_> bjv: im new to linux
[10:40] <Mend_> what is process?
[10:40] <PwcrLinux> PID# to kill
[10:40] <doms> were non-coder or were not like drupal expert or plone expert were a students but were translating our ubuntu to our native language
[10:40] <bjv> Mend_: ah, other programs and services running all get a number
[10:40] <Mend_>  pid 08*
[10:41] <DBO> Mend_, "sudo /etc/init.d/ppp restart"
[10:41] <doms> hope their somebody can help us to post our homepage.. or you may help us to develop
[10:41] <bjv> Mend_: the process identifier, or pid     you can list all the processes with    ps -A
[10:41] <PwcrLinux> or ps -x
[10:41] <DBO> or ps -ef
[10:42] <bjv> Mend_: you kill them with commands like    kill or pkill or killall
[10:42] <fiendskull9> doms, what do u need a webpage for?
[10:42] <bjv> Mend_: you can learn how to use ps and kill by typing         man kill       or man ps
[10:42] <Stormx2> !xorg
[10:42] <ubotu> it has been said that xorg is To reconfigure your X server, type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" in a terminal, or check here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto or here http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-83973.html
[10:42] <Mend_> bjv: if i kill them, doesn't it harm any other application?
[10:43] <GTroy> how do I go from matrox's driver I installed to ubuntu's matrox driver?
[10:43] <DBO> Mend_, do you know how to use pastebin?
[10:43] <bjv> Mend_: yeah, if it's something importaint
[10:43] <doms> for promoting our ubuntu green organization
[10:43] <Mend_> DBO: is it like recycle bin?
[10:43] <eggzeck> DBO, right click on any panel and click "Add to Panel"
[10:43] <PwcrLinux> Mend: it's like "Force Close Apps" uses kill <PID>
[10:44] <bjv> Mend_: chances are it's just an earlier pppd  (the dialup service) that you had started earlier without having the config right
[10:44] <doms> as an students were campaigning ubuntu to our native language
[10:44] <DBO> ...eggzeck... what are you talking about...  I wasn't trying to get help... =P
[10:44] <eggzeck> DBO, oh LOL
[10:44] <mDot> maybe someone can help me, i just upgraded to dapper, and everything in forefox is in a differnt font, very hard to read. SANS is missing from my firefox font list as well
[10:44] <mDot> any ideas
[10:44] <DBO> I was asking him if he knew how to use it, so I could direct him for help
[10:44] <eggzeck> DBO, okay :)
[10:44] <_Avatar_> hello
[10:44] <DBO> hello
[10:44] <fiendskull9> mDot, you need to reinstall msttfcorefonts again probably
[10:45] <Mend_> bjv: you might be right coz i have configured it several times
[10:45] <doms> as an students were campaigning ubuntu to our native language
[10:45] <doms> were looking for free web hosting for our homepage
[10:45] <mDot> msttfcorefonts
[10:45] <bjv> Mend_: probably. either way, any day si a good day to learn about process ids and pkilling them.
[10:45] <mDot> E: Couldn't find package msttfcorefonts
[10:45] <GTroy> I installed matrox's graphics driver, how do I go back to ubuntu's ?
[10:45] <DBO> doms, you are welcome to translate it yourself, there are links on how to do that withing ubuntu, just right click and select "Translate this application"
[10:46] <alimh> I just upgraded to dapper but it didn't install open office. how do I install all the open office programs (the default ones that came with breezy?)
[10:46] <DBO> doms, why complain when you can actually contribute? =)
[10:46] <robinl1> how to get 96 dpi?
[10:46] <DBO> !dapper
[10:46] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[10:46] <_Avatar_> anyone into KDE + ATI + XGL?
[10:47] <CraiZE> _Avatar_, not KDE but ATI and XGL :)
[10:47] <Mend_> bjv: ODB: PwcrLinux: ok guys thank you, i will switch to linux now, and try i have learned from you
[10:47] <bjv> nein
[10:47] <bjv> nvidia ftw.
[10:47] <PwcrLinux> Mend: :)
[10:47] <doms> i mean first our updates like what are our events, skedules, meetings something like separate page..
[10:48] <DBO> doms, if you are on highspeed you can easily host it yourself (and pay 6 or so dollars a year for a domain name)
[10:48] <bjv> doms: also, try a chokingly heavy load of email forwarding :P
[10:49] <doms> ooo were students we cant afford  but were in highspeed internet connection
[10:49] <bjv> doms: if you know all parties that are to be involved, you can compile and recompile all info into weekly email updates
[10:49] <DBO> doms, if you are connected to a campus network you cant do it, but maybe the college will give you webspace
[10:49] <ubuntu_> hello
[10:49] <DBO> hi
[10:50] <ubuntu_> who's dat
[10:50] <doms> were not using in the campus
[10:50] <mustard5> hehe
[10:50] <DBO> bjv, I have those moments too
[10:50] <doms> we cant use our campus
[10:50] <bjv> about blew my mind..
[10:51] <DBO> bjv, ubotu has achieved... sentience!!!
[10:52] <_Avatar_> yeah... xgl w/ gnome is ok...
[10:52] <doms> were anti-campus coz our school using a MS tools were hate them............
[10:52] <_Avatar_> but i am a kde guy...
[10:52] <_Avatar_> coundt do it until now... tried many howtos from ubuntuforums
[10:52] <doms> hope somebody can help us
[10:53] <DBO> doms, the irony value might be worth it =)
[10:53] <doms> yeah
[10:53] <DBO> doms, free webhosting doesnt really exist, at least nothing that isnt LOADED with banner ads
[10:53] <doms> were promoting ubuntu as our native language.. in an alternative way os MS Tools
[10:54] <doms> oo sure adds is welcome
[10:54] <bjv> MS has adequate tools in your language? o_O
[10:54] <bjv> what language?
[10:54] <DBO> doms, if you want, I will help you set up an ubuntu based webserver that you can run off your home internet (high speed of course)
[10:54] <doms> yes i like that
[10:54] <_Avatar_> doms, where are you from?
[10:55] <Scar_Freewill> any one knows a mp3 to ogg converter?
[10:55] <doms> were in the cafe you want to see us how  campaign ubuntu in our place you want to see my video clips, can i send you
[10:55] <DBO> Scar_Freewill, mp32ogg
[10:55] <DBO> but it does result in a quality loss
[10:56] <bjv> oh, all i had was "use oggdec" :\
[10:56] <doms> From Philippines, Mindanao is far from the Capital of our country
[10:56] <doms> were from Mindanao
[10:56] <ompaul> DBO, anything that is not mp3 is a step in the right direction :)
[10:56] <bjv> oggdec will get you a wav, and you can then take that and run
[10:56] <DBO> ompaul, that is true, but transcoding from one codec to another is still going to lose quality
[10:56] <stamen81> hello
[10:57] <stamen81> I am in big trouble, could anybody help me
[10:57] <ompaul> !anyone
[10:57] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[10:57] <stamen81> please
[10:57] <DBO> stamen81, what is your problem?
[10:57] <stamen81> yestarday I upgraded my Kubuntu on dapper
[10:57] <doms> DBU
[10:57] <stamen81> DBO, but I don't stopped the kde daemon
[10:57] <DBO> doms, do you have a box you can use as a webserver?
[10:57] <doms> yes
[10:58] <DBO> doms, is it on your home internet connection?
[10:58] <stamen81> DBO, when the system makes the upgrading
[10:58] <doms> we have 7 pcs fully installed ubuntu each of them
[10:58] <DBO> stamen81, what is your native language?
[10:58] <stamen81> DBO, and now I can't start the KDE
[10:58] <stamen81> DBO, its bulgarian, but I am installing on Eglish version only
[10:58] <doms> our organization manage an cafe
[10:58] <DBO> do we have a channel for bulgarian?
[10:59] <_Avatar_> stamen, try to enter in the rescue mode and removing kde-desktop.. after that reinstall kde-desktop
[10:59] <stamen81> and how can I make a repair
[10:59] <bjv> stamen81: when i upgraded my kubuntu to dapper, after closing X there was still one kde program open
[10:59] <_Avatar_> all on recscue mode
[10:59] <burgermann> I get a 'bootstrap' error when installing 5.10 beside Dapper Drake.
[10:59] <doms> purpose for free tutorials for ubuntu, dekstop plubishing
[10:59] <_Avatar_> them reboot an see if it works
[10:59] <DBO> doms, ok, all you need to do is "sudo apt-get install apache2" on your server
[10:59] <bjv> stamen81: i had to kill that program, before i could bring the new kde up
[10:59] <doms> ok
[10:59] <doms> i go now in my synaptic
[10:59] <bjv> stamen81: in my case it was ksensors that didnt shut down after i shut X down
[10:59] <Scar_Freewill> my server just crashed
[10:59] <DBO> doms, that will install the basic webserver package, then you need to put all your html in "/var/www/"
[10:59] <burgermann> Now I can't install anything, because of that bootstrap error
[10:59] <stamen81> djv what to do
[11:00] <DBO> doms, then you need to forward port 80 to that box
[11:00] <doms> ok
[11:00] <bjv> stamen81: i listed running tasks with    ps -A
[11:00] <doms> i'am still installing the apache2
[11:01] <bjv> stamen81: and saw   'ksensors'   on the list, which i knew was a kde app.   so i killed it with    pkill -KILL ksensors
[11:01] <bjv> stamen81: if you cant do all that,   have you done a plain old reboot?
[11:01] <stamen81> the system reboots, and sends me on the kosole
[11:01] <stamen81> konsole
[11:02] <PwcrLinux> okay, good night all :)
[11:02] <DBO> on how to spot a KDE user...
[11:02] <_Avatar_> stamen... on the grub menu choose the Recovery Mode... (rescue mode)...
[11:02] <stamen81> so say me what to do if you can step by step
[11:02] <_Avatar_> the goto terminal....
[11:02] <stamen81> because I am new
[11:02] <bjv> stamen81: ah, so you have rebooted the machine
[11:02] <stamen81> yes, yestarday
[11:02] <doms> DBO /var/www/apache2-default
[11:03] <bjv> i am just guessing now, but im gonna go with 'you cant start X at all'
[11:03] <stamen81> _Avatar_,  and the
[11:03] <_Avatar_> while in rescue mode terminal login as root and type "apt-get remove kde-desktop"
[11:03] <stamen81> _Avatar_,  and then
[11:03] <bjv> stamen81: do you have a graphics card?
[11:03] <DBO> doms, erm, no, just /var/www/
[11:03] <_Avatar_> them "apt-get install kde-desktop"
[11:03] <stamen81> djv, yes
[11:03] <_Avatar_> it might work..
[11:03] <mustard5> _Avatar_, kubuntu-desktop?
[11:03] <bjv> stamen81: an nvidia or an ati?
[11:03] <_Avatar_> mustard5, you might be right
[11:03] <stamen81> djv, ati
[11:03] <_Avatar_> i dont remeber the packages names by heart
[11:04] <bjv> stamen81: i use an nvidia card
[11:04] <_Avatar_> i am away from my ubuntu box right now
[11:04] <burgermann> What does "Erase entire disk and use LVM" mean?
[11:04] <doms> DBO do you a free template or something a free page that you can offer to us
[11:04] <doms> do u hav
[11:04] <mustard5> burgermann, LVM is logical volume manager
[11:04] <DBO> doms... no, I think you will need to make your own...
[11:04] <mustard5> burgermann, erase entire disk is self explanatory :)
[11:04] <_Avatar_> i am at work... with nasty windows machine and firewall... using putty to access my shell at othet box (not ubuntu)
[11:04] <bjv> bjv: are you at the console right now?
[11:04] <burgermann> mustard, yeah :)
[11:05] <bjv> bjv: what happens if you type      startx     as a user
[11:05] <DBO> doms, if you want to promote it, you should probably learn how to do it afterall =)
[11:05] <stamen81> _Avatar_,  can I make a repair for dist-upgrade
[11:05] <bjv> doh
[11:05] <bjv> stamen81: what happens if you type      startx     as a user
[11:05] <mustard5> !lvm
[11:05] <ubotu> lvm is probably (for the moment) http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/
[11:06] <doms> ok
[11:06] <_Avatar_> stament81, you must reboot your machine. at the bootup pay attention to the GRUB menu... choose the 2nd option (rescue mode)...
[11:06] <stamen81> djv, it starts, but there is no KDE desktop, it is a screen with a somthing like net and a little window with konsole
[11:06] <_Avatar_> type the root password...
[11:06] <_Avatar_> and logged in as root..
[11:06] <stamen81> _Avatar_,  and after that
[11:06] <_Avatar_> type "apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop"
[11:06] <_Avatar_> them "apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[11:07] <_Avatar_> if you dont login as root...
[11:07] <DBO> you will have to use sudo
[11:07] <stamen81> _Avatar_,  will all configurations of KDE be saved
[11:07] <_Avatar_> just type "sudo apt-get remove......" and them "sudo apt-get instal..... "
[11:07] <DBO> stamen81, yes
[11:07] <stamen81> ok
[11:07] <nicklas> Hello. I am trying to share some files ubuntu -> windows over my network. I go up to system, administration, shared directories. Choose which directories i like to share, and give it a name... Click ok, and when i from my windows pc try to connect to it, it ask for a username and password? Ive tried the username and pass i use on ubuntu. Any help?
[11:07] <stamen81> there is one more problem
[11:07] <DBO> stamen81, well your session might get nuked... but the config files in general should not
[11:08] <_Avatar_> DBO, on dapper.. it goes directly to root in rescue.. just need to type the pass...
[11:08] <doms> DBO i will try to make a page in screem
[11:08] <doms> then i will put it in /var/www
[11:08] <stamen81> when I type ifconfig
[11:08] <DBO> _Avatar_, forgot we were in dapper... my bad
[11:08] <DBO> doms, yes, your home page should be named index.html
[11:08] <stamen81> konsole says that there is no eth card
[11:08] <driggers> oo.  do those chinese characters show up on all your screens? * wray has quit ("")
[11:08] <bjv> yes
[11:08] <mustard5> nicklas, would you need to set up a user name on the windows side using the user name of the ubuntu account?  (just guessing here)
[11:09] <mabus06> driggers: yes
[11:09] <bjv> driggers: we _are all running the same OS :P
[11:09] <_Avatar_> stamen81.. how are things going?
[11:09] <stamen81> _Avatar_, I will reboot now
[11:09] <stamen81> _Avatar_, and try what you say
[11:09] <driggers> oh.. yeah... well maybe it would be better to hear from anyone who does not see them as chinese chars... ty guys
[11:09] <stamen81> _Avatar_, but I have last question for now
[11:09] <nicklas> mustard5: I've tried to
[11:10] <Scar_Freewill> i just installed ubuntu 5.10 and it is the first time for me on ubuntu... can some one give me a site link to where i might find some apps/updates/codecs like mp3codec...
[11:10] <bjv> mustard5: you should only need the username and password of the ubuntu account
[11:10] <stamen81> _Avatar_, can I make a repair of dist-upgrade
[11:10] <stamen81> _Avatar_, from scratch
[11:10] <_Avatar_> Scar... www.ubuntuforums.org
[11:10] <mustard5> bjv ah ok
[11:10] <bjv> nicklas: isnt there a box you can click to make the samba share public?
[11:10] <bjv> does that work?
[11:10] <_Avatar_> stamen,  what do you mean by a repair?
[11:10] <Scar_Freewill> _Avatar_, thx
[11:10] <_Avatar_> you are already upgraded.. arent you?
[11:11] <_Avatar_> scar, look for a script called Automatix
[11:11] <Scar_Freewill> k
[11:11] <_Avatar_> it will do all the dirty work for you
[11:11] <Scar_Freewill> lol
[11:11] <stamen81> _Avatar_, imagine that I had downloaded the new files and packets, and to do the upgrade function
[11:11] <nicklas> bjv: Could it be to use the ubuntu computer as a WINS server?
[11:11] <bjv> what?
[11:12] <mustard5> !tell Scar_Freewill about restricted
[11:12] <bjv> nicklas: i recall seeing that initialization once in a windows networking profile.. what is WINS?
[11:12] <_Avatar_> stamen... login in rescue... root or user... if root.. apt-get update them apt-get distro-upgrade
[11:12] <stamen81> _Avatar_, somthing like I was one step before starting the upgrade, and I want to make with the cached files a repair upgrade
[11:12] <_Avatar_> if user just type "sudo" before the apt-get
[11:13] <stamen81> _Avatar_,  ok, but with this command it wants a internet connection
[11:13] <nicklas> bjv: I can choose 1)Do not use this as a WINS server 2) Use this as a WINS server 3) Use WINS server:       .... So i dont know what it is :)
[11:13] <stamen81> _Avatar_,  but the system now dont recognise my eth card
[11:13] <_Avatar_> arent you online? it wont redownload the downloaded packages i think
[11:13] <stamen81> _Avatar_,  this is the other problem
[11:13] <_Avatar_> try apt-get --help
[11:13] <bjv> nicklas: what asks you that? the ubuntu menu, or the popup in windows?
[11:14] <stamen81> _Avatar_,  ok
[11:14] <stamen81> _Avatar_,  now I will reboot, and try all this
[11:14] <mustard5> stamen81, apt-get -f install   will fix broken package problems
[11:14] <nicklas> bjv: It is in ubuntu...
[11:14] <stamen81> _Avatar_,  bye and 10x for now
[11:14] <stamen81> mustartd5, ok
[11:15] <bjv> nicklas: ok. it sounds like WINS was some fake bullshit that microsoft cooked up a while ago
[11:15] <bjv> nicklas: your ubuntu box uses DNS and so does your windows machine
[11:15] <nicklas> bjv: yes
[11:15] <bjv> nicklas: so no one should be using any WINS at all. you can use names if you want, but probably you are just going to be connecting to shares with IP addresses
[11:16] <nicklas> bjv: hmm, I think i found what i needed in the manual...
[11:18] <Scar_Freewill> tuxracer needs some updates [=
[11:19] <Scar_Freewill> & by the way how do you compile a app/game like tuxracer to a win port if your not using cygwin?
[11:21] <_Avatar_> scar, found Automatix?
[11:22] <beta_m> does ubuntu come with free JVM? because i need to run normal SUN JVM, how do i do that?
[11:22] <Scar_Freewill> _Avatar_, yes the page
[11:22] <_Avatar_> beta_m go to www.ubuntuforums.com you will find the answer there...
[11:22] <Storkme> how do i shut down from the command line?
[11:22] <tonyyarusso> !automatix
[11:22] <ubotu> hmm... automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[11:23] <_Avatar_> you can compile with the source code from JavaSUN
[11:23] <_Avatar_> or use the JAVA clone from blackdown or something like that...
[11:23] <Scar_Freewill> Storkme, shutdown -t secs now
[11:23] <_Avatar_> ubotu.. risky in which way?
[11:24] <beta_m> _Avatar_: www.ubuntuforums.com address not found
[11:24] <_Avatar_> many ppl have used it without complains
[11:24] <mendi> bjv: made it!
[11:24] <delliott> Is there a dedicated PPC channel?
[11:24] <Scar_Freewill> beta_m, .org
[11:24] <_Avatar_> beta.. look at google type ubuntu forums
[11:24] <beta_m> ok
[11:25] <mendi> bjv: i think it was ethernet conflicting with modem
[11:25] <mcleod> hello world
[11:25] <_Avatar_> hello mcleod
[11:25] <bjv> mendi: suppa!
[11:25] <mcleod> _Avatar_, ;-)
[11:25] <bjv> mendi: good to hear, i actually just went out and bought an external serial modem. that';s how i solved my problems
[11:26] <bjv> mendi: fast, seamless, worked like a charm.
[11:26] <bjv> mendi: guess you saved a couple bucks, though :)
[11:27] <mephis1987> synaptic is the GUI for deb package , what is for rpm packages ?
[11:27] <mendi> bjv: thank you, it is time to have a lunch, my wife calling me. Yea, it is great, i have saved some bucks and i have internet.
[11:27] <mendi> bjv: see u!
[11:28] <mephis1987> synaptic is the GUI for deb package , what is for rpm packages ?
[11:28] <mephis1987> !rpm
[11:28] <ubotu> from memory, rpm is the Redhat Package Management file. Very similar to Debians DEB files, but require alien to install. ask me about !alien
[11:28] <_Avatar_> mephis, none... we use "alien" a cmd line prg to conver a .rpm into a .deb
[11:28] <DBO> do NOT use alien, please =)
[11:28] <DBO> !alien
[11:28] <ubotu> alien is probably a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Its use is discouraged, as it could create serious problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/
[11:28] <_Avatar_> why DBO?
[11:28] <mephis1987> _Avatar_, yes but what the GUI for rpm ?
[11:28] <mephis1987> like synaptic is the GUI of deb
[11:29] <nandemonai> Hi people, Just wondering what the new desktop people are going on about in dapper is called.. Curious and want to have a look..
[11:29] <_Avatar_> mephis... ubuntu doesnt use RPMs....
[11:29] <DBO> _Avatar_, because it fubars systems
[11:29] <jenda> oi - anyone know how to assing a keycode to a command?
[11:29] <ScarFreewill|AFK> 7-zip can decompress rpms & deps [=
[11:30] <DBO> nandemonai, probably you mean XGL
[11:30] <nandemonai> DBO, That's the one thanks :P
[11:30] <mephis1987> _Avatar_, just for reference , do rpm have a GUI manager like synaptic
[11:30] <DBO> nandemonai, you would need dapper, of course, to use it
[11:30] <stjepan> what's /dev/wacom?
[11:30] <Gold-at-work> hi all
[11:30] <Gold-at-work> I'm e newbie....can I ask here for help?
[11:30] <DBO> mephis1987, yes, but the repository style setup isnt nearly as advanced
[11:31] <nandemonai> DBO, Yes I realise this.. Hence why I want to have a see before dapper comes out.. Thanks again..
[11:31] <DBO> Gold-at-work, thats what we are here for!
[11:31] <Gold-at-work> dbo: 10x a  lot :D
[11:31] <stjepan> can I have DRI and 3D acceleration with newest dapper and my ATI Radeon 9600 (r300 driver)?
[11:31] <mephis1987> DBO, uhm , what is the name for it ? sth like yellow dog ?
[11:31] <Gold-at-work> well th eproblem is with live cd
[11:31] <Gold-at-work> it doesn't find the cd
[11:31] <DBO> mephis1987, no clue
[11:32] <DBO> Gold-at-work, does it just boot to your hard drive instead?
[11:32] <Gold-at-work> I never tried
[11:32] <Remenic> what's the package named that contains all C function man pages?
[11:32] <DBO> Gold-at-work, when you put the CD, what happens?
[11:32] <Gold-at-work> win is ok
[11:32] <Gold-at-work> maybe is my system?
[11:32] <_Avatar_> sometimes alien isgood...
[11:32] <_Avatar_> i am too lazy to compile from scratch
[11:33] <DBO> _Avatar_, please do not recommend alien in here
[11:33] <Gold-at-work> I have an asus p5ld2 with i945P chipset and Pentium D 930
[11:33] <DBO> Gold-at-work, you have to change the boot device priority in the BIOS
[11:33] <ScarFreewill> _Avatar_, i have Automatix now, what now?
[11:33] <DBO> !Automatix
[11:33] <ubotu> automatix is probably unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[11:33] <Gold-at-work> dbo:
[11:33] <hajiki> my cd ripping is very slow (0.1x) can someone help me with that?
[11:33] <Remenic> n/m, found it
[11:34] <ompaul> !automatix
[11:34] <ubotu> I guess automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[11:34] <Gold-at-work> dbo: nope1!!! it is fine....
[11:34] <DBO> ScarFreewill, please do not use automatix
[11:34] <Gold-at-work> the cd boots normally
[11:34] <DBO> Gold-at-work, ok, what is the problem then?  Im not understanding your issue
[11:34] <ScarFreewill> ubotu, its ok i'll just reinstall... lol
[11:34] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ScarFreewill
[11:34] <ompaul> !
[11:34] <ubotu> ompaul: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:34] <ompaul> !ubotu
[11:34] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[11:35] <ScarFreewill> ubotu, k
[11:35] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ScarFreewill
[11:35] <Gold-at-work> the problem is that when I press enter to load the kernel...it starts but after 2 seconds it says me that it can't find the cd............
[11:35] <mephis1987> !mplayer
[11:35] <ubotu> methinks mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[11:35] <DBO> ScarFreewill, do not use ubotu's name unless you need to ask the bot a question please =)
[11:35] <ompaul> ScarFreewill, its a channel bot - the advice is in there as we give it out often
[11:35] <Gold-at-work> I tried with knoppix live too
[11:35] <jenda> Ok... anyone know what the Sys_req keysym does? It doesn't seem to do anything
[11:35] <hajiki> my cd ripping is very slow can someone help me speed it up
[11:35] <Gold-at-work> and it says the same thing
[11:35] <ScarFreewill> ubotu, lol no, but how do i remove automatix now?
[11:35] <ubotu> ScarFreewill: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:35] <bjv> buuuuuuuurn @ ubotu: "Did you get hit by a windmill?"
[11:36] <DBO> Gold-at-work, it seems your CD drive is not supported by the live boot...
[11:36] <bjv> ubotu is getting all up ons.
[11:36] <ubotu> bjv: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:36] <Gold-at-work> well
[11:36] <beta_m> how to i edit the %PATH%... where is it initialised during startup?
[11:36] <Gold-at-work> It has no problems with another motherboard and cpu
[11:36] <ScarFreewill> DB0, sry didn't know its a bot
[11:36] <DBO> Gold-at-work, hmmmm...
[11:36] <Gold-at-work> I use it with asrock dualsata2 and amd64 3000+ with no problems
[11:36] <r0d> ubotu, sshlib
[11:36] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, r0d
[11:36] <DBO> ScarFreewill, its ok, you had to find out someway
[11:37] <Gold-at-work> is the same with 32 or 64bit live cd
[11:37] <Gold-at-work> dunno why....
[11:37] <_Avatar_> DBO, where are you from?
[11:37] <hajiki> my cd ripping is very slow can someone help me speed it up
[11:37] <DBO> _Avatar_, USA...
[11:37] <_Avatar_> hajaki, have you tuned the hdparm option?
[11:38] <DBO> Gold-at-work, I see... Im not sure there is much to be done since it is a liveboot
[11:38] <_Avatar_> DBO, u work for Canonical?
[11:38] <DBO> _Avatar_, oh heck no
[11:38] <mephis1987> checking X11/xpm.h usability... no
[11:38] <mephis1987> checking X11/xpm.h presence... no
[11:38] <mephis1987> checking for X11/xpm.h... no
[11:38] <mephis1987> configure: WARNING: Xpm header not found
[11:38] <hajiki> i tried hdparm -d1 /dev/hdX and it got slower
[11:38] <caplink811_log> Gold-at-work, what kind of drive it is? sata or ide?
[11:38] <mephis1987> should I install xpm ?
[11:38] <ScarFreewill> _Avatar_, i have Automatix now, what now? and should i use it because the bot was helling at me uninstall !! lol
[11:38] <_Avatar_> DBO, u into kubuntu or ubuntu?
[11:38] <bjv> hajiki: i do stuff like  hdparm -d1 -m16 -A1 -a320 -u1 -X mdma2 -c3 /dev/hdc
[11:38] <hajiki> are all of those safe
[11:39] <stjepan> !xgl
[11:39] <Gold-at-work> do you think is better with installation cd?
[11:39] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[11:39] <DBO> _Avatar_, I prefer GNOME because its more... no-nonsense...  but its just a preference...
[11:39] <stjepan> !r300
[11:39] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, stjepan
[11:39] <_Avatar_> Scar, read the forums... i have used it no side effects...
[11:39] <DBO> Gold-at-work, yes
[11:39] <bjv> hajiki:  -A1 -a320  iirc made it work wild on long haul straight reads.
[11:39] <_Avatar_> hdparm -d1 -m16 -A1 -a320 -u1 -X mdma2 -c3 /dev/hdc
[11:39] <_Avatar_> hdparm -d1 -m16 -A1 -a320 -u1 -X mdma2 -c3 /dev/hdc
[11:39] <ScarFreewill> _Avatar_, ok lol so the bot has side effects...
[11:40] <DBO> _Avatar_, do NOT recommend automatix in here, we get people all the time who hosed their systems with it
[11:40] <Gold-at-work> ok I download it...
[11:40] <Gold-at-work> is there a special version for intel dual core?
[11:40] <_Avatar_> DBO, i wont recommend.. =)
[11:40] <_Avatar_> I will only show the door...
[11:40] <captainredbeard> is there any weather applet for the KDE panel?
[11:40] <hajiki> bjv, that didnt work ;(
[11:40] <_Avatar_> not make him follow throgh...
[11:40] <beta_m> anybody?... where is %PATH% set during the startup ?
[11:40] <_Avatar_> =)
[11:40] <hajiki> bjv, i dont need to reboot right?
[11:41] <ScarFreewill> DB0, lol, so what do u recommend?
[11:41] <DBO> ScarFreewill, this is a warning, if you use Automatix after having been warned, you probably will not get much sympathy
[11:41] <mcleod> I try to use wifi-radar and wpa
[11:41] <DBO> ScarFreewill, what are you trying to do?
[11:41] <ScarFreewill> DB0, trying to get codecs/updates...
[11:42] <DBO> Gold-at-work, no there is not, but you would want the kernel compiled for SMP, which means compiling your own
[11:42] <_Avatar_> there is a wiki page called ubuntu startup guide...
[11:42] <DBO> ScarFreewill, what codecs?
[11:42] <_Avatar_> it has all the code to do much of the things we want
[11:42] <ScarFreewill> DB0, mainly mp3 atm
[11:42] <DBO> !mp3
[11:42] <_Avatar_> you can do by yourself
[11:42] <ubotu> mp3 is, like, a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[11:42] <fyrestrtr> beta_m: /etc/profile for system-wide settings
[11:42] <DBO> no need for automatix
[11:42] <ScarFreewill> ok
[11:43] <charles_> Hello room
[11:43] <ScarFreewill> i have u bot
[11:43] <_Avatar_> yeah... automatix sucks.. heheh =)))
[11:43] <xerophyte> what is the best method to keep the to server cluster together, i have load balancer with 2 servers and load balancer is configured with virtual ip address but i need to sync the data to both server, what is the best method out there ..other than rsync
[11:43] <fyrestrtr> xerophyte: heartbeat
[11:43] <_Avatar_> !skype
[11:43] <ubotu> it has been said that skype is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/
[11:44] <DBO> xerophyte, yes... there is a program... argh what is the name...
[11:44] <ScarFreewill> DB0, should i rather use a mp3 to ogg converter?
[11:44] <stamen81> _Avatar_, I try all this thing
[11:45] <stamen81> _Avatar_, but whe I try to remove kubunut-desktop
[11:45] <DBO> ScarFreewill, install the mp3 codecs, try the link ubotu gave you
[11:45] <ScarFreewill> ok
[11:45] <stamen81> _Avatar_, konsole says that ther is no kubuntu-desktop installed
[11:45] <DBO> xerophyte, Unison works fairly well for that
[11:45] <_Avatar_> stamen!
[11:45] <fyrestrtr> ScarFreewill: just download the codec as described in RestrictedFormats -- converting mp3 to ogg won't be of much use. You need a "raw" format like wav to start the converstion from.
[11:45] <_Avatar_> did u try to run the distro uprgade command again?
[11:45] <DBO> fyrestrtr, there are programs to convert
[11:46] <mephis1987> hello , i have problem when installing xcircuit , when typing ./configure
[11:46] <mephis1987> it says checking X11/xpm.h usability... no
[11:46] <mephis1987> checking X11/xpm.h presence... no
[11:46] <mephis1987> checking for X11/xpm.h... no
[11:46] <mephis1987> configure: WARNING: Xpm header not found
[11:46] <fyrestrtr> DBO: I know, but its converting from one compressed format to another just to change the codec. Kinda useless.
[11:46] <stamen81> _Avatar_, whe I try to make dist-upgrade, it wanted to install some libs, but it wants a connection to internet, but the system when boots recognize the eth card, and
[11:46] <ScarFreewill> how to i uninstall automatix?
[11:46] <mephis1987> so i cant not make
[11:46] <DBO> fyrestrtr, yes, we went over that earlier, you do lose fidelity
[11:46] <stamen81> _Avatar_, when I try to mak ifconfi eth0, says that there is no such device
[11:46] <bjv> hajiki: hay you dont need to leave, a reboot isnt necicary. :|
[11:47] <DBO> ScarFreewill, did you use apt-get to install it?
[11:47] <stamen81> _Avatar_, like eth0
[11:47] <stamen81> _Avatar_, what to do
[11:47] <ScarFreewill> yes
[11:47] <doms> were i can get a software like macromedia dreamwaver that i can install in my ubuntu like drag and drop
[11:47] <_Avatar_> stament, something must be wrong... is you box connected to a DHCP enabled router?
[11:47] <ScarFreewill> or w8
[11:47] <DBO> ScarFreewill, use the same command you used to install it, but replace "install" with "remove"
[11:47] <stamen81> _Avatar_, it is connected to LAN and I am using pppoe connection
[11:47] <ScarFreewill> this is how: wget http://beerorkid.com/automatix/automatix_5.7-3_i386.deb
[11:47] <ScarFreewill> sudo dpkg -i automatix_5.7-3_i386.deb
[11:47] <gourdin> hi there
[11:48] <fyrestrtr> doms: sudo apt-get install nvu
[11:48] <stamen81> _Avatar_, but to activate it I must configure my eth
[11:48] <stamen81> _Avatar_, but I can't
[11:48] <gourdin> I got a problem with my eth on kubuntu
[11:48] <gourdin> Apr 15 11:35:42 archon kernel: [4297572.802000]  NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth0: transmit timed out
[11:48] <gourdin> Apr 15 11:35:42 archon kernel: [4297572.802000]  sky2 hardware hung? flushing
[11:48] <gourdin> this is happening when the load of the network grows a bit
[11:48] <stamen81> _Avatar_, how was the command to make the root system of the live cd to use the root of the real distro root
[11:48] <gourdin> kernel 2.6.15-20
[11:48] <gourdin> anyone got a clue ?
[11:49] <gourdin> or a place to report this ?
[11:49] <DBO> ScarFreewill, "sudo dpkg -r --purge automatix_5.7-3_i386.deb"
[11:49] <_Avatar_> boot up with the live cd... and choose the rescue mode.
[11:49] <DBO> gourdin, you are using dapper?
[11:49] <DBO> !dapper
[11:49] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[11:50] <gourdin> DBO: =)
[11:50] <gourdin> thx
[11:50] <stamen81> _Avatar_, and
[11:50] <ScarFreewill> DB0, "dpkg: conflicting actions --purge and --remove"
[11:50] <DBO> ScarFreewill, "sudo dpkg -r automatix_5.7-3_i386.deb"
[11:50] <DBO> sorry, my brain no worky
[11:50] <_Avatar_> stamen.. i dont understand what you mean.... u want to login as root? you dont nee to use the live cd...
[11:50] <ompaul> !root
[11:50] <ubotu> root is, like, totally, Direct logging as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[11:51] <_Avatar_> just reboot.. wait for the GRUB menu... and choose the 2nd option
[11:51] <ompaul> you just don't need it
[11:51] <ompaul> stamen81, sorry that is chroot
[11:51] <stamen81> _Avatar_, ok, what to do then
[11:51] <ompaul> !chroot
[11:51] <ubotu> rumour has it, chroot is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575
[11:51] <seyit> how are you ?????
[11:51] <ompaul> stamen81, ^^^^^^ that is what you want
[11:51] <stamen81> ompaul, yes, 10x
[11:51] <_Avatar_> if you get into the regular login as your regular user you can use sudo before the commands..
[11:51] <ScarFreewill> DB0, "dpkg: you must specify packages by their own names, not by quoting the names of the files they come in"
[11:51] <_Avatar_> or just type sudo bash
[11:52] <_Avatar_> to get a root shell..
[11:52] <DBO> ScarFreewill, yeah... just try automatix
[11:52] <ScarFreewill> k
[11:52] <stamen81> _Avatar_, yes I got it, but what to do then
[11:52] <DBO> never installed it
[11:52] <jenda> !automatix
[11:52] <ubotu> it has been said that automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[11:52] <mephis1987> !dummy
[11:52] <ubotu> mephis1987: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:52] <DBO> jenda, yes, we went over that...
[11:52] <jenda> DBO: NEVER recommend automatix
[11:52] <_Avatar_> read the thread on the forum...
[11:52] <DBO> jenda, we are UNINSTALLING it
[11:52] <doms> thanks for informing us for NVU
[11:53] <jenda> Ok, Ok :)
[11:53] <BuNnYY> hello all !! how I install skype skype_1.2.0.18-2_i386.deb ?
[11:53] <jenda> DBO: sorry :(
[11:53] <ScarFreewill> DB0, "sudo dpkg -r automatix.deb" doesn't work
[11:53] <jenda> *:)
[11:53] <_Avatar_> jenda.. why dont you also like it?
[11:53] <fyrestrtr> !tell BuNnYY about skype
[11:53] <_Avatar_> what do you mean by risky?
[11:53] <_Avatar_> its a malicius script?
[11:53] <DBO> _Avatar_, because we end up fixing everything it breaks
[11:53] <BuNnYY> fyrestrtr I dont know nothing
[11:53] <DBO> ScarFreewill, get rid of the .deb
[11:53] <BuNnYY> please say how install this file
[11:53] <ScarFreewill> k
[11:54] <fyrestrtr> BuNnYY: read the page that the bot sent you
[11:54] <Isil`Zha> hi. does anybody know why somebody had the funny idea to call a lib "libsexy2"? as i don't have a problem with that my proxy does...
[11:54] <_Avatar_> scar.. if u just got the deb file.. u didnt install it..
[11:54] <_Avatar_> =)
[11:54] <BuNnYY> what is command for install .deb ?
[11:54] <doms> dpkg -i packagename.deb
[11:54] <_Avatar_> then u install it u get a menu asking many things u want to get installed
[11:54] <jenda> _Avatar_: it's been gone over zillions of times: it's made aby a single person, it changes your sources.list and uses --force-yes. very dangerous options and has broken many boxes before. Alleedly, it has improved since then - I'm not going to be the one to find out.
[11:54] <DBO> _Avatar_, he did run the command to install
[11:54] <mephis1987> !dkgm
[11:54] <_Avatar_> did u see this menu?
[11:54] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, mephis1987
[11:54] <mephis1987> !dkgp
[11:54] <ubotu> mephis1987: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:54] <BuNnYY> whate moment
[11:55] <BuNnYY> root@ubuntu:/home/ivan# dpkg -i packagename.deb
[11:55] <BuNnYY> dpkg: error processing packagename.deb (--install):
[11:55] <BuNnYY>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[11:55] <BuNnYY> Errors were encountered while processing:
[11:55] <BuNnYY>  packagename.deb
[11:55] <BuNnYY> ?
[11:55] <fyrestrtr> BuNnYY: don't paste in here.
[11:55] <BuNnYY> okkk
[11:55] <bjv> Isil`Zha: you will have to wait until they release the next version libsechsey1, with code even hotter then the last.
[11:55] <BuNnYY> but ?
[11:55] <Isil`Zha> and if someone would have an idea how to actually get this lib, maybe named differently for downloading puposes, it would be really great
[11:55] <mephis1987> !dpkg
[11:55] <Goshawk> BuNnYY: you have to substitute packagename.deb
[11:55] <bjv> Isil`Zha: libomghottness1?
[11:55] <Goshawk> BuNnYY: with your package
[11:55] <fyrestrtr> BuNnYY: replace packagename.deb with the name of the file that you downloaded from the internet. It will probably start with skype
[11:55] <jenda> anyway: Help! I'm trying to make a custom launcher on my gnome-panel (xmodmap .xmodmap) and i get "cannot launch icon - not a launchable itme" whenever I click it.
[11:55] <mephis1987> man dpkg
[11:55] <BuNnYY> ok
[11:55] <Isil`Zha> bjv: it is kind of funny i admit. but i'm stuck with console until i can get this file...
[11:56] <fyrestrtr> Isil`Zha: what file is it?
[11:56] <stamen81> ompaul, can I make after that the apt-get upgrade
[11:56] <DBO> jenda, what did you fille in for command?
[11:56] <stamen81> ompaul, when I change the root
[11:56] <Isil`Zha> fyrestrtr: it is called "libsexy2"
[11:56] <Melky> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[11:56] <Melky> kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include] 
[11:56] <Melky> The path "/usr/src/linux/include" is an existing directory, but it does not
[11:56] <Melky> contain a "linux" subdirectory as expected.
[11:56] <_Avatar_> DBO, if I install flight 6 on my box.. then the final version gets out will dist-upgrade do it all for me or its recommended to go from scratch everytime we get a new version?
[11:57] <jenda> DBO: xmodmap .xmodmap (and I tried /usr/bin/xmodmap /home/jenda/.xmodmap
[11:57] <bjv> Isil`Zha: i guess it' snot very core. i dont have that in my apt-cache
[11:57] <bjv> sorry
[11:57] <ompaul> stamen81, not if dapper and breezy but you could try
[11:57] <fyrestrtr> Melky: install linux headers first. apt-get install linux-headers
[11:57] <DBO> jenda, did you check run in terminal?
[11:57] <ompaul> stamen81, never had to do it myself
[11:57] <Isil`Zha> bjv: its within dapper
[11:57] <fyrestrtr> bjv: what version you need? I can download it, rename it, upload it, and you can download it, rename it, and get on with whatever thing you were doing.
[11:57] <Melky> oh,I see
[11:57] <fyrestrtr> whoops, wrong person
[11:57] <fyrestrtr> Isil`Zha: ^ is to you
[11:57] <jenda> DBO: yes, to test it - but I don't want a terminal to open
[11:57] <bjv> Errhttp://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main libsexy2 0.1.7-0ubuntu2
[11:58] <bjv>   404 Not Found [IP: 82.211.81.151 80] 
[11:58] <bjv> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libs/libsexy/libsexy2_0.1.7-0ubuntu2_i386.deb  404 Not Found [IP: 82.211.81.151 80] 
[11:58] <bjv> i cannot apt-get it either.
[11:58] <jenda> DBO: it won't work either way.
[11:58] <BuNnYY> this is cool ! mirror  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/ thanks for all :)
[11:58] <bjv> maybe the dapper repo is busted?
[11:58] <ScarFreewill> DB0, "sudo apt-get remove automatix" this worked
[11:58] <jenda> DBO: never mind... i put it as a service... how stupid. thanks anyway :)
[11:58] <_Avatar_> Scar, there you go!
[11:58] <Isil`Zha> fyrestrtr: 0.1.7-0ubuntu4
[11:58] <_Avatar_> Good boy! =)
[11:58] <stamen81> ompaul,  how can I see is eth card recognized by the distro?
[11:58] <fyrestrtr> Isil`Zha: which arch?
[11:58] <doms> is their a software like grading system for an class.. or like enrollments sytem for linux
[11:59] <DBO> jenda, ah... I just finished making mine, worked fine, so I was confused =P
[11:59] <stamen81> ompaul, and to make it work
[11:59] <fyrestrtr> stamen81: ifconfig
[11:59] <Isil`Zha> fyrestrtr: dapper
[11:59] <stamen81> fyrestrtr, yes I now that, but the live session recognise it
[11:59] <fyrestrtr> Isil`Zha: *arch* i386, amd64, etc.
[11:59] <stamen81> fyrestrtr, the real instalation not
[11:59] <Isil`Zha> fyrestrtr: sorry. 386
[11:59] <fyrestrtr> stamen81: did you forget to tell it to bring it up on boot?
[12:00] <ompaul> stamen81, is it wireless?
[12:00] <fyrestrtr> Isil`Zha: okay, wait for a few seconds.
[12:00] <stamen81> fyrestrtr, no it is not wireless
[12:00] <fyrestrtr> stamen81: it doesn't matter if its wireless or not :)
[12:00] <stamen81> fyrestrtr, and I don't tell it anything
[12:00] <doms> is their a software like grading system for an class.. or like enrollments sytem for linux
[12:00] <stamen81> fyrestrtr, I have just upgaraded to dapper, and the trouble started from then
[12:00] <TokenBad> can someone help me figure out why my sound stopped working when try to use xmms..it just comes up saying that its not set up right or something else is using it..but nothing to use sound is loaded...and it was working earlier today...
[12:00] <DBO> doms, none I am aware of, try searching around in synaptics, but I didnt find anything
[12:01] <fyrestrtr> stamen81: ask in #ubuntu+1
[12:01] <stamen81> fyrestrtr, and I don't know how to fix all this
[12:02] <doms> anybody has a template of an NVU can you share it to me?
[12:02] <Melky> root@ubuntu:~#   linux-headers-2.6.12-10-k7 2.6.12-10.30
[12:02] <Melky> bash: linux-headers-2.6.12-10-k7: command not found
[12:02] <Melky> root@ubuntu:~#   linux-headers-2.6.12-10-686-smp 2.6.12-10.30
[12:02] <Melky> bash: linux-headers-2.6.12-10-686-smp: command not found
[12:02] <Melky> root@ubuntu:~#   linux-headers-2.6.12-10-686 2.6.12-10.30
[12:02] <Melky> bash: linux-headers-2.6.12-10-686: command not found
[12:02] <Melky> root@ubuntu:~#   linux-headers-2.6.12-10-386 2.6.12-10.30
[12:02] <DBO> !paste
[12:02] <ubotu> Please don't flood the channel! For best results use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and tell people the URL
[12:02] <Melky> bash: linux-headers-2.6.12-10-386: command not found
[12:02] <Melky> root@ubuntu:~#   linux-headers-2.6.12-10 2.6.12-10.30
[12:02] <Melky> bash: linux-headers-2.6.12-10: command not found
[12:02] <Melky> root@ubuntu:~#   linux-headers-2.6.12-9-k7-smp 2.6.12-9.23
[12:02] <Melky> bash: linux-headers-2.6.12-9-k7-smp: command not found
[12:02] <Melky> root@ubuntu:~#   linux-headers-2.6.12-9-k7 2.6.12-9.23
[12:02] <Melky> bash: linux-headers-2.6.12-9-k7: command not found
[12:02] <Melky> root@ubuntu:~#   linux-headers-2.6.12-9-686-smp 2.6.12-9.23
[12:02] <Melky> bash: linux-headers-2.6.12-9-686-smp: command not found
[12:02] <Melky> root@ubuntu:~#   linux-headers-2.6.12-9-686 2.6.12-9.23
[12:02] <Melky> bash: linux-headers-2.6.12-9-686: command not found
[12:02] <Melky> root@ubuntu:~#   linux-headers-2.6.12-9-386 2.6.12-9.23
[12:03] <Melky> bash: linux-headers-2.6.12-9-386: command not found
[12:03] <Melky> root@ubuntu:~#   linux-headers-2.6.12-9 2.6.12-9.23
[12:03] <Melky> bash: linux-headers-2.6.12-9: command not found
[12:03] <Melky> why?
[12:03] <doms> anybody has a template of an NVU can you share it to me?
[12:03] <DBO> doms, try google =)
[12:04] <DBO> Melky, please dont paste in here, it spams the channel like no other
[12:04] <DBO> Melky, those are not commands... thats all there is to it, what are you trying to do?
[12:04] <Journich> anyone had any luck with ubuntu and a dell 9400 with the ati x1400 video card?  can't find any info about x1400 video card drivers from ati
[12:04] <DBO> or leave...
[12:04] <doms> yes i'am searching in google DBO dont forget your pormise to us
[12:04] <DBO> I made a promise?
[12:06] <doms> yes something in /var/www/
[12:06] <doms> webserver
[12:06] <DBO> you already installed apache, open a web browser and type "127.0.0.1" into the address bar
[12:06] <fyrestrtr> Isil`Zha: wget http://www.meidomus.com/files/ubuntu-libs.tar.bz2 -- and enjoy some libsexy2 lovin'
[12:06] <DBO> your website will come up
[12:07] <Isil`Zha> fyrestrtr: thank you very much :)
[12:07] <doms> yes i'am finish installing my apache2
[12:07] <DBO> ok, so you have a webserver now... whats the problem?
[12:07] <doms> i can open that webpage to other internet cafe something like 127.0.0.1
[12:08] <DBO> doms, you have to forward port 80 to that machine through the router to get it to work from the outside
[12:08] <fyrestrtr> doms: you want to open it *to* other internet cafe, or open it *from* internet cafe?
[12:08] <DBO> fyrestrtr, he wants the world to have access
[12:08] <DBO> and its being hosted... somewhere...
[12:08] <fyrestrtr> doms: dyndns.org
[12:09] <TokenBad> can someone help me figure out why my sound stopped working when try to use xmms..it just comes up saying that its not set up right or something else is using it..but nothing to use sound is loaded...and it was working earlier today...
[12:09] <doms> what do you mean port 80
[12:09] <fyrestrtr> and then setup your (probably linksys) router to use dyndns -- forward port 80 and done.
[12:09] <doms> ok i try dyndns.org
[12:09] <DBO> !portforward
[12:09] <ubotu> portforward is, like, totally, visit portforward.com for a comprehensive site on how to forward your ports for games, torrents, webservers, etc
[12:10] <fyrestrtr> brb -- lunch
[12:10] <jenda> How do I make the Super key (win key) ALWAYS use third level keysyms? It seems that the setting in preferences-keyboard gets overridden by running xmodmap .xmodmap (and that gets overridden when setting it in preferences)
[12:11] <jenda> So... where can I acess X's default xmodmap file - the one it falls back to in such cases?
[12:11] <BuNnYY> how install firefox ?
[12:11] <DBO> !FF1.5
[12:11] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[12:11] <BuNnYY> where I download firefox ?
[12:11] <DBO> BuNnYY, 1.0.7 is already installed
[12:11] <BuNnYY> but I dont see DBO
[12:11] <BuNnYY> whare ?
[12:11] <Scar_Freewill> you know i am trying to get mp3 codec but the site you refered me to stats that "sudo apt-get install  gstreamer0.8-mad" is the command to install it but it tells me it can't find the pakage
[12:12] <DBO> Applications -> Internet -> Firefox
[12:12] <BuNnYY> nop nothing
[12:12] <gnomefreak> Scar_Freewill: do you have universe and multiverse repos enabled?
[12:12] <BuNnYY> :(
[12:12] <Scar_Freewill> no lol
[12:12] <BuNnYY> I dont have
[12:12] <DBO> !tell Scar_Freewill about repos
[12:12] <gnomefreak> Scar_Freewill: you need to
[12:12] <Scar_Freewill> i think i know how\
[12:12] <jenda> BuNnYY: isn't there a world icon next to the system menu?
[12:12] <gnomefreak> in your pb
[12:12] <gnomefreak> pm even
[12:13] <BuNnYY> whate 1 minutes
[12:13] <DBO> jenda, oh yeah, good thinking =)
[12:13] <jenda> :)
[12:13] <gnomefreak> BuNnYY: opena  terminal and type firefox www.ubuntu.com
[12:13] <Scar_Freewill> DB0, now i start liking that bot [=
[12:13] <BuNnYY> ok
[12:14] <DBO> Scar_Freewill, we like him too, saves lots of typing
[12:14] <jenda> How do I make a third level chooser in xmodmap? The gnome setting is deprecated, as it gets overriden by xmodmap.
[12:14] <Scar_Freewill> DB0, yeah
[12:15] <gicmo> yo!
[12:15] <jenda> This line seems to be what I'm looking for.. but how do i assing it to the winkey? add    Mod5    = Mode_switch ISO_Level3_Shift
[12:15] <gicmo> I need a lot of 32 bit libs on an amd 64 systm
[12:15] <gicmo> is it ok to just extract the contents of the 32bit version into lib32?
[12:15] <stefano> I can't see more than 1 windows in lanchpad.there's an error in the property. Can anyone help me?
[12:17] <doms> yes i'am puting now a html file in my /var/www
[12:18] <doms> then i type 127.0.0.1
[12:18] <doms> Apache/2.0.54 (Ubuntu) Server at 127.0.0.1 Port 80
[12:19] <doms> DBO whats next when i click my html file i cant open it
[12:20] <DBO> doms, what did you name the html file?
[12:20] <DBO> jenda... I have no idea how to help you, what are you trying to do anyhow?
[12:20] <doms> ubuntugreen.html
[12:20] <DBO> doms, name it "index.html"
[12:20] <iplgecko> Hi can I recieve help on mozilla here?
[12:20] <doms> ah ok
[12:21] <DBO> iplgecko, its kinda dead, so sure
[12:21] <iplgecko> oh
[12:21] <Hoxzer_> can you guys tell me how do I make Team speak to use alsa
[12:21] <iplgecko> Welll I just want videos and shockwave videos to play without lagging
[12:21] <Hoxzer_> I can't find howto for it
[12:21] <iplgecko> I have updated everything
[12:21] <shrewduser> is there any simple way to re-install all the important base system files?
[12:21] <DBO> iplgecko, is the sound or the video lagging?
[12:21] <iplgecko> mozilla, media player plugins, flash etc.
[12:21] <iplgecko> both
[12:21] <iplgecko> like it stops then starts
[12:21] <shrewduser> like some sort of "system repair"?
[12:22] <dsas> shrewduser: You can reinstall the seperate packages...
[12:22] <iplgecko> Just choppy you could say
[12:22] <DBO> shrewduser, did you make a backup?
[12:22] <wvelez> Does Automatix work with Dapper?
[12:23] <DBO> !automatix
[12:23] <jenda> DBO: I use several languages and I decided I would like a third level on my keyboard. Gnome allows this easily, but refuses to cooperate with my xmodmap - it ALWAYS falls back to some xmodmap file (I believe it' sone I made myself as well... as there is no Z in it and that looks like my mistake rather than the devs)... and I have no clue where this could be... maybe... anyway to search *xmodmap* flies if they contain lines with "z*Z" and look at those t
[12:23] <jenda> hat do NOT?
[12:23] <ubotu> well, automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[12:23] <iplgecko> DBO: do you have any ideas?
[12:23] <gnomefreak> wvelez: dont use automatix
[12:23] <jenda> wvelez: automatix barely works with breezy...
[12:23] <doms> yes i replace it in index.html  nothing happens
[12:24] <gnomefreak> wvelez: and no neither that or easyubuntu work in dapper
[12:24] <doms> when i click 127.0.0.1
[12:24] <DBO> iplgecko, are you sure its not a bandwidth issue... it sound like buffering to me
[12:24] <mmmiiikkkeee> i am haveing trouble with the system updater... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12300
[12:25] <DBO> doms, are you sure your HTML is sound?
[12:25] <jenda> Yeah... DBO, would you know hot to search for files of a given name (*xmod*) that do not contain a string?
[12:25] <iplgecko> I have 1.5mb and I can clearly see it loads first then plays.
[12:25] <mmmiiikkkeee> codl some one look at the error its producing
[12:25] <mmmiiikkkeee> i dont know how to fix that
[12:25] <doms> index.html thats my template
[12:25] <DBO> jenda, with grep
[12:25] <iplgecko> DBO: It works fine in windows :S
[12:25] <DBO> iplgecko, ok, I will get back to you
[12:26] <jenda> DBO: figured as much :-D but the syntax is too complicated for me in this case...
[12:26] <iplgecko> DBO: ok thanks alot
[12:26] <mthakur> gnomefreak : r u there
[12:26] <mthakur> nickrud : r u there
[12:26] <DBO> jenda, grep -L <string> *
[12:26] <mthakur> mustard5 : r u there
[12:26] <mthakur> duelboot : r u there
[12:26] <DBO> mthakur, please dont do that
[12:26] <mustard5> yeah
[12:27] <mthakur> ok sorry DBO
[12:27] <gnomefreak> mthakur: yes what do you need
[12:27] <doms> file:///var/www/index.html
[12:27] <mmmiiikkkeee> i am haveing trouble with the system updater... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12300
[12:27] <mthakur> gnomefreak, u no the problem i had last night : the gui won't come up?
[12:27] <jenda> DBO: thx :) just found it in the man :)
[12:27] <Yahkiller> Sup
[12:27] <gnomefreak> mthakur: no i wasnt here for that i dont think
[12:27] <DBO> doms, pastebin your HTML file
[12:27] <mustard5> mthakur, yeah I remember ..the network configuration gui
[12:27] <mthakur> gnomefreak, oh yes.
[12:27] <gnomefreak> mthakur: does it give you blue screen?
[12:27] <mustard5> mthakur, dialup?
[12:28] <doms> i mv my index.html to /var/www
[12:28] <mmmiiikkkeee> i am haveing trouble with the system updater... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12300
[12:28] <Yahkiller> www.twisted-nightmares.net
[12:28] <mthakur> no, it just gives a black screen : i found out on forum what i must have disabled - GDM or KDM
[12:28] <doms> what do u mean by pastbin my file
[12:28] <mthakur> gnomefreak & mustard5 : no, it just gives a black screen : i found out on forum what i must have disabled - GDM or KDM
[12:28] <mustard5> mthakur, ah ok
[12:29] <DBO> !tell doms about pastebin
[12:29] <mmmiiikkkeee> i am haveing trouble with the system updater... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12300
[12:29] <mustard5> mthakur, so how did you go with fixing it?
[12:29] <mthakur> gnomefreak & mustard5 : so how do u make it load up by default?
[12:29] <holycow__> mmmiiikkkeee: stop bloody pasting dude
[12:29] <gnomefreak> mmmiiikkkeee: ok thats a warning its ok to have but if you want to fix it please read the page you got seveas repo from it will tell you how to make that go aaway
[12:29] <mthakur> :-0
[12:29] <holycow__> mmmiiikkkeee: just paste once and shush,someone will get to you
[12:29] <holycow__> jesus
[12:29] <DBO> iplgecko, do video files playback ok outside of firefox?
[12:29] <BuNnYY> how install .tar.gz for my ubuntu ?
[12:30] <mustard5> mthakur, I'm not really sure how you disabled it
[12:30] <wvelez> Does Automatix work with Dapper?
[12:30] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell BuNnYY about compile
[12:30] <iplgecko> DBO: yes they play no worries
[12:30] <Howitzer> don't think so
[12:30] <holycow__> wvelez: don't ever use automatix
[12:30] <DBO> wvelez, no, automatix doesnt work, period...
[12:30] <holycow__> !automatix
[12:30] <Howitzer> wvelez, some packages are named differently
[12:30] <ubotu> well, automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[12:30] <mustard5> mthakur, wasnt it when you fiddled with webmin?
[12:30] <mthakur> mustard5, i fiddled with something in webmin that regulates boot up and shut down procedures
[12:30] <wvelez> Howitzer: thanks
[12:30] <gnomefreak> wvelez: no and nothing works in dapper and dont use automatix
[12:30] <holycow__> how the hell do people manage to take something like dpkg and apt and completely hose it with something stupid like automatix
[12:30] <iplgecko> DBO: when I go to view a flash video for eg. it says i must update flash or java script isnt enabled
[12:30] <wvelez> gnomefreak: youre a moron...dapper works fine
[12:31] <mustard5> mthakur, I can't think of any simple way of fixing it :)
[12:31] <gnomefreak> wvelez: i meant out of automatix and easyubuntu
[12:31] <mthakur> mustard5, o kk
[12:31] <gnomefreak> wvelez: if you read it the first time i posted it you would have seen that
[12:31] <DBO> wvelez, please be nice to gnomefreak, he works mighty hard to help people =)
[12:32] <mustard5> mthakur, the longshot would be to get webmin going again and put back the boot up options that you removed the first time
[12:32] <gnomefreak> wvelez: hey btw this isnt the dapper support channel
[12:32] <holycow__> wvelez: such language can get  you banned, careful
[12:32] <DBO> iplgecko, there is something in the forums about this issue... Im almost sure of it
[12:32] <mthakur> ahoy, i fixed it......aha
[12:32] <mthakur> thanks u mustard5
[12:32] <mustard5> mthakur, what did you do?
[12:32] <mthakur> mustard5, i enabled GDM in webmin.
[12:33] <mustard5> mthakur, heh..well thats a good start :)
[12:33] <gnomefreak> wvelez: also a hint _not_ everything works in dapper
[12:33] <mustard5> mthakur, see ..your a linux guru ;)
[12:33] <Howitzer> gnomefreak, i've had no problems so far
[12:33] <mustard5> DBO, :)
[12:33] <mthakur> mustard5, thank u - i could not have donw that without you :) - do u no the things that should be enabled when u boot up - like gdm...
[12:33] <mthakur> thanks DBO
[12:34] <gnomefreak> Howitzer: do you use everything dapper has to offer?
[12:34] <mustard5> mthakur, what other options do you have?  can you show me a screenshot of the webmin page?
[12:34] <mthakur> yes - how do u send a file?
[12:34] <mustard5> mthakur, the imageshack website will host it
[12:34] <mustard5> mthakur, I'll get a link
[12:35] <Howitzer> what do you mean by everything?
[12:35] <doms> i mv my index.html to /var/www
[12:35] <mustard5> mthakur, http://www.imageshack.us/
[12:35] <doms> nothing happens when i type 127.0.0.1
[12:35] <doms> in my broswer
[12:35] <gnomefreak> Howitzer: do you have every package installed for i386 and 64bit?
[12:35] <mustard5> mthakur, upload the screenshot to that website and show me the URL afterwards
[12:35] <DBO> doms, ok, does it time out?
[12:35] <Howitzer> ofcourse noty
[12:35] <mustard5> mthakur, I'm going to reconnect my dialup connection brb
[12:35] <Howitzer> i'm saying i don't have any problems so far
[12:35] <Howitzer> i'm not saying they're aren't any problems
[12:36] <gnomefreak> me neither after the printer fix
[12:36] <Howitzer> Although i've noticed that Gnome 2.14 didnt give the speedboost they said it would give
[12:36] <mthakur> ok mustard5 thanks.
[12:36] <iplgecko> DBO: ok ill search thankyou for your help
[12:36] <gnomefreak> but my comment to him was everything does not work if it did all work than launchpad bugs would be totally usless and it would have gotten a sooner release
[12:36] <doms> what do mean DBO
[12:37] <DBO> doms, does your web browser say "connection timed out" or something like that?
[12:37] <gnomefreak> Howitzer: gnome cant do that too many apps running in background (not everyone is gonna have the speed that so people do
[12:38] <gnomefreak> slowest still is KDE imo than gnome
[12:38] <mthakur> DBO, thanks for the beard
[12:38] <Hoxzer> :D I'm losing my mind because of teamspeak
[12:38] <DBO> =)  welcome tot he club mthakur
[12:38] <mustard5> mthakur, k I'm back
[12:38] <mustard5> mthakur, how is that screenshot going?
[12:39] <mthakur> mustard5, i can only upload one image - but i have got six :)
[12:39] <mustard5> heh
[12:39] <mthakur> mustard5, i can only upload one image - but i have got six :)
[12:39] <mthakur> DBO , thanks
[12:39] <mthakur> DBO, how do u hand a beard?
[12:39] <doms> no? no saying no happens when i type 127.0.0.1
[12:40] <mustard5> mthakur, that is your special linux guru beard :)
[12:40] <DBO> doms, did... you press enter?
[12:40] <mthakur> mustard5 - thanks
[12:40] <doms> yes
[12:40] <doms> of course
[12:40] <mthakur> I am a linux guru, yayyy
[12:40] <DBO> doms, can you put a copy of your "index.html" in pastebin?
[12:40] <mthakur> mustard5, i can only upload one image - but i have got six :)
[12:40] <mustard5> mthakur, load them one at at time
[12:41] <doms> the sourcode
[12:41] <doms> of the url
[12:41] <mustard5> mthakur, show me the URL for each one as you do it
[12:41] <DBO> the code
[12:41] <mthakur> i m sending u this way--send file
[12:41] <jenda> Does ANYONE know... what keymap gnome uses as default? this is really frustrating...
[12:41] <doms> but when i right click an open the html file yes i can see it.
[12:41] <doms> but when i type only 127.0.0.1 in the address nothings happens
[12:42] <fyrestrtr> jenda: what's the problem you have?
[12:42] <mustard5> mthakur, I suspect the transfer rate will be too slow actually via irc
[12:42] <DBO> doms... ok, I need to see a copy of your "/etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default
[12:42] <DBO> " file
[12:42] <DBO> oops, sorry for the two liner
[12:43] <Ironhand> hello, does anyone know what could be causing this... a system with an e100 based ethernet interface, works fine with debian, in ubuntu the module is loaded, eth0 reported in dmesg, however trying to bring eth0 up reports "no such device"...
[12:43] <mustard5> mthakur, I don't think the send is working
[12:43] <DBO> BuNnYY, have you been helped?
[12:43] <wahjava> Hi group
[12:44] <bliss1__> hi hi
[12:44] <wahjava> I want to create deb packages of one of my app I developed
[12:44] <jenda> fyrestrtr: I'd like to use both, the settings gnome offers for my keyboard (third level chooser in particular) and what my xmopmap file does. Now gnome aways reverts to _some_ xmopmap_ file of my making (which make sit even weirder) but I have NO clue which one. It's not .xmodmap, and it's not /usr/share/xmodmap/xmodmap.dvorak - those are identical and the way I want them. But it won't let me use them along with the third lever chooser...
[12:44] <wahjava> How can I create one
[12:44] <Ironhand> (this is kernel 2.6.15-19 as well as -20, i386
[12:44] <wahjava> Where do I look
[12:44] <wahjava> ??
[12:44] <doms> ok
[12:45] <mthakur> mustard5, the url for the 1st screenshot is - http://img100.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot11ps.png
[12:45] <mustard5> mthakur, got it
[12:45] <mthakur> mustard5, can u see the pic?
[12:45] <doms> /etc/apache2/sites-enabled
[12:45] <jenda> fyrestrtr: won't let me, in this case, means that they mutually override each other.
[12:45] <BuNnYY> how install XAMPP 1.4.11 for Linux.tar.gz ???????????
[12:45] <mustard5> mthakur, yeah..I'm on dialup though, so its slow loading :)
[12:45] <doms> you mean that i move my index.html in  /etc/apache2/sites-enabled
[12:46] <mthakur> o kk, mustard5
[12:46] <bliss1__> mustard5 well hi happy easter
[12:46] <DBO> doms... no, I need you to post a copy of the file I mentioned above somewhere on the internet (or at pastebin) so I can read it and see where the problem is...
[12:46] <fyrestrtr> jenda: hrmm ... I'm not at my ubuntu station right now, but have you tried looking this up, because its not ubuntu specific.
[12:46] <mustard5> hey bliss1__  :)
[12:46] <mthakur> Wish Every1 Happy Easter!
[12:46] <BuNnYY> DBO how install XAMPP 1.4.11 for Linux.tar.gz ?
[12:46] <mustard5> bliss1__, I have consumed many easter eggs ;)
[12:47] <jenda> fyrestrtr: I'll try...
[12:47] <fyrestrtr> jenda: you can try your luck in ##gnome
[12:47] <bliss1__> mustard5; hows your menu.lst experience
[12:47] <mustard5> bliss1__, I have some limited experience :)
[12:48] <DBO> BuNnYY, "tar -xvfg /path/to/Linux.tar.gz"
[12:48] <bliss1__> mustard; you know what goes where
[12:48] <mustard5> mthakur, wow..you really turned a lot of processes off at startup :)
[12:48] <mthakur> mustard5, the url for the second image is - http://img138.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot21bm.png
[12:48] <bliss1__> DBO: you 24 hour cat woo
[12:48] <DBO> BuNnYY, that will extract it, then you will probably have to compile (or does XAMPP not require that
[12:49] <mustard5> bliss1__, ummm...I'm not sure..It won't hurt for me to have a look :)
[12:49] <BuNnYY> DBO what program I download  ?
[12:49] <BuNnYY> for apache phpmyadmin php
[12:49] <DBO> BuNnYY, why do you want to use XAMPP?
[12:49] <fyrestrtr> BuNnYY: sudo apt-get install apache phpmyadmin php
[12:49] <DBO> why not do a full install...
[12:49] <DBO> ^^ what he said
[12:49] <mthakur> mustard5, what should i enable?
[12:49] <mustard5> mthakur, I think you should turn anacron back on (from the first page)...and probably others...just looking and trying to work it out
[12:50] <fyrestrtr> mthakur: you should always run some cron daemon as system admin tasks require cron.
[12:50] <mustard5> mthakur, turn acpid back on
[12:50] <mthakur> thanx, fyrestrtr
[12:50] <bliss1__> mustard5: http://pastebin.ca/49422 go for it
[12:51] <mthakur> ok, mustard5, nething else
[12:51] <mustard5> bliss1__, what am I looking for in particular?
[12:51] <mustard5> mthakur, alsa-utils on
[12:51] <bliss1__> mustard5 read the question at the bottom
[12:51] <mustard5> bliss1__, yep..just noticed that :)
[12:52] <mthakur> the url for the third image is - http://img95.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot31vi.png
[12:52] <bliss1__> mustard5: your a star
[12:52] <mthakur> mustard5, should i turn bootclean etc. on?
[12:52] <mustard5> bliss1__, so what is this XEN?
[12:53] <mustard5> mthakur, yep
[12:53] <bliss1__> mustard5: its a virtual thing, but its the grub entry i need to know
[12:53] <mthakur> ok mustard5
[12:54] <mthakur> nething else, mustard5?
[12:55] <mthakur> mustard5, u seen the second shot yet?
[12:55] <mustard5> mthakur, I'll keep looking in a minute..just reading something else atm :)
[12:55] <mthakur> mustard5, k
[12:55] <DBO> mthakur, you should probably turn the ifupdown stuff back on too
[12:55] <DBO> and klogd
[12:56] <mthakur> ok thanks DBO :)
[12:56] <bliss1__> DBO: eats chocolate eggs with coffee inside
[12:56] <DBO> and linux restricted stuff
[12:57] <mustard5> bliss1__, I guess it would depend on which directory the vmlinuz is in?
[12:57] <mustard5> bliss1__, is it in /boot/?
[12:57] <mthakur> the url for the fourth shot is - http://img135.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot48ux.png
[12:58] <bliss1__> mustard5:  i use grub from the os in hda2
[12:58] <mustard5> mthakur, k..downloading image 3 and 4 now :)
[12:58] <mthakur> DBO & mustard5 - one thing that is missing is between the 3rd and 4th screenshots is madm-raid - what about that?
[12:58] <bliss1__> mustard: yep i think i know what you are saying its hda2 (hd0,1)
[12:59] <mustard5> mthakur, what does the description say it does?
[12:59] <DBO> mthakur, do you use raid?
[12:59] <silver> hi
[12:59] <mthakur> mustard5, the decription says Start any arrays which are described in /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf and which are not running already.
[12:59] <DBO> mthakur, you probably want to turn networking on as well
[12:59] <mthakur> ok thanks, DBO
[01:00] <DBO> mthakur, if you dont use rsync, you can kill that
[01:00] <mthakur> what is rsync? dbo
[01:00] <nirmal> mthakur r u from India?
[01:00] <mustard5> bliss1__, so in hda2 there is a /boot/ which contains this vmlinuz for XEN?
[01:00] <mthakur> yes nirmal
[01:00] <nirmal> i am too
[01:00] <DBO> mthakur, if you dont know, you dont use it
[01:00] <DBO> mthakur, you can also kill powernowd if its not a laptop
[01:01] <bliss1__> mustard5 there will be when I install it
[01:01] <Plitskin> hi, why won't rm -d [dir]  remove my directory?
[01:02] <mustard5> bliss1__, are you installing over your Debian build in hda2?
[01:02] <DBO> Plitskin, that is super user only
[01:02] <mustard5> bliss1__, or is this an addition to that?
[01:02] <bliss1__> mustard; yes it sort of inside it
[01:03] <Plitskin> DBO: Thanks
[01:03] <DBO> Plitskin, the man command is your friend
[01:04] <bliss1__> mustard5 well i think must be an additon or I would not need a grub entry
[01:04] <mustard5> bliss1__, well I suppose (hd0,1) is the way to go, with vmlinux installed in /boot/ ...the second one...from what I can see it really depends on where the vmlinuz for XEN is installed
[01:04] <mustard5> bliss1__, if its in /boot/ you would use the second one...if not then the first one
[01:04] <Scar_Freewill> where/how can i get "libsdl-mixer" & "libsdl-image" ?
[01:05] <Plitskin> after I did sudo -s how do I go back to my default user? Sorry... It just felt faster asking here...
[01:05] <mustard5> bliss1__, am I making sense..or is my ignorance showing? :)
[01:06] <mustard5> mthakur, bootmisc I'm not sure what it does..
[01:06] <mthakur> hi, i can't upload any more images.
[01:06] <bliss1__> mustard5; so if i have ubuntu on hda1 (hda0 ,0 sarge on hda2 (hda0,1) would xen be hda2 (h0,3)?
[01:06] <BiSHEP> hi all
[01:06] <mthakur> mustard5, i have enabled that
[01:06] <BiSHEP> i install Ubuntu on VMWare
[01:06] <graveson> can someone please help me with my ati card- i followed th ati binary guide over and over again,but :( %$@#$%#$@%
[01:06] <Plitskin> errr... How could I forget... it's the su command...
[01:07] <BiSHEP> and for install VM tools ubuntu says what need super user
[01:07] <BiSHEP> i enter in console "su" but it says what password is incorrect
[01:07] <mthakur> mustard5, do u need webmin to start up at the boot time?
[01:07] <mustard5> bliss1__, I'm thinking that if you had xen as hda2 (hd0,3) we would be talking about a new partion in which xen is going to be installed
[01:08] <mustard5> mthakur, not necessarily no...you could start it manually
[01:08] <id`> How do i restart apache? With archlinux it'd just be sudo /etc/rc.d/apache2 restart
[01:08] <bliss1__> mustard5: that ok its not a new partition so it will be xen hda2 (hda0,1)?
[01:08] <mthakur> mustard5, i don't need it - i've got xampp
[01:08] <BiSHEP>    ?
[01:08] <mustard5> bliss1__, one tick..just thinking about this
[01:09] <gnomefreak> BiSHEP: english in here please
[01:10] <BiSHEP> i enter in console "su" but it says what password is incorrect
[01:10] <BiSHEP> but when i install UBUNTU
[01:10] <mustard5> bliss1__, well hda2 would be referred to by grub as (hd0,1)
[01:10] <BiSHEP> i enter everywhere only one password
[01:10] <gnomefreak> BiSHEP: use sudo not su
[01:10] <mthakur> mustard5, can u see the file i sent 2 ya?
[01:10] <fyrestrtr> !tell BiSHEP about sudo
[01:10] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell BiSHEP about root
[01:10] <mustard5> mthakur, no..file transfers aren't working
[01:10] <BiSHEP>  <gnomefreak> with wich parameters use "sudo" ?
[01:10] <bliss1__> mustard5: ok so were agreed on that point
[01:11] <gnomefreak> BiSHEP: what are you trying to do?
[01:11] <BiSHEP> i need instal VMtools in Ubuntu
[01:11] <graveson> anyone i have a screenshot of how my desktop looks when the fglrx module is loaded. can someone please help
[01:11] <mthakur> mustard5, aww - i can't upload nemore images on imageshack...
[01:11] <mustard5> mthakur, check for PM from me in another window
[01:11] <fyrestrtr> graveson: what's the problem?
[01:11] <gnomefreak> BiSHEP: sudo apt-get install <packagename>
[01:11] <mthakur> what is PM?
[01:11] <gnomefreak> pm=private message
[01:11] <fyrestrtr> mthakur: afternoon
[01:11] <BiSHEP> hnnn
[01:11] <mthakur> oh ok
[01:11] <mustard5> bliss1__, the problem is that I don't have a clue what this xen is :)
[01:11] <BiSHEP> let`s try...
[01:11] <BiSHEP> 10x
[01:12] <mthakur> after noon fyrestrtr
[01:12] <bliss1__> mustard; do not worry i think we have it
[01:12] <fyrestrtr> mustard5: xen is a virtualization software. Why do you have it?
[01:12] <gnomefreak> BiSHEP: read the link in your pm please and im not even sure vmtools are in the repos
[01:12] <mustard5> bliss1__, so I'm at a loss as to why its going onto the debian installation on hda2 :)
[01:12] <gnomefreak> xen is nice if you can get it running
[01:12] <BiSHEP> repos?
[01:12] <bliss1__> mustard5: its like vmware
[01:12] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell BiSHEP about repos
[01:12] <mustard5> bliss1__, k
[01:12] <mthakur> mustard5, how do u offer Pm?
[01:13] <graveson> fyestrtr: this #%^#$^$#%  ati display card. giving me grey hairs . i will paste on pastebin partof my issue
[01:13] <mustard5> mthakur, are you registered with IRC?
[01:13] <gnomefreak> mthakur: /msg <personsname>
[01:13] <BiSHEP> :)
[01:13] <mustard5> mthakur, you might need to register your nickname
[01:13] <mustard5> !register
[01:13] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[01:13] <gnomefreak> mustard5: he is not identified
[01:14] <gnomefreak> sorry i love /whois :)
[01:14] <AkiraYuki> Ciao a tutti
[01:14] <mustard5> mthakur, just throw up each option you need to know about and I'll see how we go :)
[01:14] <mustard5> mthakur, whats the next process you need to know about?
[01:15] <Tm_T> AkiraYuki: no, speak english
[01:15] <Scar_Freewill> gstreamer0.8-mad:
[01:15] <Scar_Freewill>  Depends: Help plz libid3tag0 (>=0.15.1b) but it is not installable
[01:15] <Scar_Freewill>  Depends: libmad0 (>=0.15.1b) but it is not installable
[01:15] <mthakur> mustard5, okay..
[01:15] <bliss1__> mustard5: now now we have established where its going you will notice there are two examples of what goes in grub i am just wondering which one they are slightly diffrent
[01:15] <mthakur> mustard5 - what's the last process u can see?
[01:15] <graveson> fystrtr: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12302
[01:15] <Scar_Freewill> lol that help plz shouldn't be there
[01:16] <mustard5> bliss1__, the only difference (from what I am seeing) is that one is looking for the vmlinuz in the /boot/ and the other is not
[01:16] <AkiraYuki> ok, thanks
[01:16] <AkiraYuki> ^^
[01:16] <Marineboy> mustard whats up!
[01:16] <horea> hey guys I'm kinda new to linux and I need a little help mounting partitions.. :)
[01:16] <mustard5> hey Marineboy
[01:16] <Marineboy> Mustard the funniest thing happen!
[01:16] <Tm_T> !mount
[01:16] <ubotu> rumour has it, mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[01:16] <mthakur> mustard5 - what's the last process u can see?
[01:16] <Tm_T> horea: there you go
[01:16] <fyrestrtr> graveson: try turning down your resolution, and paste your X log file
[01:17] <horea> thanks
[01:17] <mustard5> mthakur, to tell you the truth I have lost track :)
[01:17] <Marineboy> I downloaded Ubuntu twice and burned it on 2 different CD's and both give me some kind of error when installing "base system"
[01:17] <mthakur> mustard5, so have i...
[01:17] <jan_> hi
[01:17] <bliss1__> mustard5: arr thats it your correct
[01:17] <Scar_Freewill> !mp3
[01:17] <ubotu> it has been said that mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[01:17] <Marineboy> So now i'm having to use the Live CD until the ones I ordered are here.
[01:17] <doms> DBO
[01:17] <graveson> fyrestrtr: which log file
[01:17] <doms> where are you
[01:17] <mthakur> mustard5, can u offer me a private chat?
[01:17] <fyrestrtr> graveson: X.0.log or something close to that
[01:17] <mustard5> bliss1__, so its really dependant on where the vmlinuz is installed
[01:17] <jan_> can anyone help me with my problem?
[01:17] <mustard5> bliss1__, either in / or /boot/
[01:18] <mustard5> mthakur, I just attempted to
[01:18] <Scar_Freewill> can some one help me with my mp3 codecs?
[01:18] <Marineboy> Mustard5: I downloaded Ubuntu twice and burned it on 2 different CD's and both give me some kind of error when installing "base system"
[01:18] <fyrestrtr> jan_: we can't help you unless you state your problem.
[01:18] <Marineboy> Mustard5: So now i'm having to use the Live CD until the ones I ordered are here.
[01:18] <bliss1__> mustard5: so the one i  want is where itwill be installed which is hda2 (hda0,1)
[01:18] <fyrestrtr> Marineboy: you didn't download the files correctly.
[01:18] <jan_> i'm doing that
[01:18] <mbelgedhes> hi all
[01:18] <mitulv4u> hi all
[01:18] <jan_> i installed hoary hedgehog
[01:18] <Marineboy> hrm. I downloaded the installation version.
[01:18] <fyrestrtr> Scar_Freewill: read the RestrictedFormats wiki entry
[01:18] <jan_> no problem, but firefox doesnt run
[01:19] <fyrestrtr> Marineboy: I meant, your download might have been corrupted.
[01:19] <bliss1__> mustard5: which i think is the second of the two?
[01:19] <Scar_Freewill> fyrestrtr, i have..
[01:19] <jan_> there's no other web browser here
[01:19] <gnomefreak> jan_: can i suggest you upgrade to breezy
[01:19] <Scar_Freewill> fyrestrtr, i need deps:
[01:19] <jan_> i'll do the upgrade
[01:19] <Marineboy> could have.
[01:19] <mustard5> bliss1__, you would need to edit either one to reflect that yes...as atm they are both looking in (hd0,0)
[01:19] <fyrestrtr> Scar_Freewill: it talks about the deps in the same page, or provides links to it. Read it again.
[01:19] <gnomefreak> breezy pretty much "just works"
[01:19] <jan_> bt i want to browse
[01:19] <mthakur> mustard5, the first one is acpi-support 	No 	INIT script to check whether we're on batteries, and so start with laptop mode etc enabled. BUGS: unless we start *really* late, we have no way of throttling xscreensaver, since it won't be there to command.
[01:19] <Marineboy> fyrestrtr: how long does it take for the CD's to be sent out via shipit
[01:19] <Scar_Freewill> fyrestrtr, k
[01:19] <mustard5> bliss1__, so yeah..change the (hd0,0) to (hd0,)
[01:19] <fyrestrtr> Marineboy: never used it.
[01:20] <mitulv4u> hey i am new 2 this os.can ne1 help me out here
[01:20] <gnomefreak> jan_: sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox
[01:20] <mitulv4u> i cant play mp3 files
[01:20] <Marineboy> !mp3
[01:20] <gnomefreak> !mp3
[01:20] <ubotu> mp3 is, like, totally, a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[01:20] <jan_> thnx
[01:20] <fyrestrtr> !tell mitulv4u about RestrictedFormats
[01:20] <jan_> sometimes i don't think a lot before i ask
[01:20] <mitulv4u> thanx
[01:20] <bliss1__> mustard5: and hda6 to hda2?
[01:20] <gnomefreak> jan_: its ok we are here to help
[01:20] <graveson> fyrestrtr: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12303
[01:21] <mustard5> bliss1__, sounds correct yes
 hmmm..i enter sudo apt-get install VMwaretools.rpm
[01:21] <SirKillalot> can I avoid other package to be removed when I remove a specific package?
[01:21] <BiSHEP> but it say what he can`t find package
[01:21] <gnomefreak> BiSHEP: this is not an rpm distro
[01:21] <mitulv4u> and even firefox cant open some sites...like google and yahoo
[01:21] <gnomefreak> BiSHEP: this is a .deb distro
[01:21] <bliss1__> mustard5; uumm why (hda0,0) to hda(00?
[01:22] <bliss1__> hda0
[01:22] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell BiSHEP about vmware
[01:22] <BiSHEP> i have vmwaretools.rpm and vmwaretools.tar.tgz
[01:22] <jan_> already have the same firefox version
[01:22] <Scar_Freewill> fyrestrtr, i have read the page again, but still i don't see/know how to get these deps for my mp3 codec
[01:22] <SirKillalot> can I avoid other package to be removed when I remove a specific package?
[01:22] <gnomefreak> BiSHEP: looks like youll be compiling it than
[01:22] <mustard5> bliss1__, doh.. I made a typo :)
[01:22] <fyrestrtr> graveson: is there some reason you are using VESA drivers and not ATI drivers?
[01:22] <doms> anybody hav a crack for crossover
[01:22] <jan_> would it be worth a try to delete everything i have from firefox here and then try apt-get again?
[01:22] <mustard5> bliss1__, so yeah..change the (hd0,0) to (hd0,1)..<<--is that making more sense?
[01:22] <BiSHEP> i extract .tar.tgz
[01:23] <BiSHEP> and it have install.pl
[01:23] <BiSHEP> but it says what i don`t super user :)
[01:23] <bliss1__> mustard5 yep
[01:23] <gnomefreak> BiSHEP: read the readme or install files for more info
[01:23] <graveson> fyrestrtr:i had to switch to vesa ,so i can get some help -talking to you :)
[01:23] <sethk> jan_, unlikely.  download the linux version directly from the mozilla site
[01:23] <sethk> jan_, dpkg won't know about it, but firefox is well isolated
[01:23] <graveson> fyrstrtr: i will past the old log
[01:23] <jan_> how do i come to the site without a working webbrowser?
[01:23] <avelinuxseptimus> hola
[01:23] <gnomefreak> jan_: not really i suggest if your gonna upgrade upgrade it first than FF should work
[01:24] <sethk> jan_, lot's of ways, if you don't mind a bit of programming
[01:24] <sethk> jan_, I'd probably use python's http library
[01:24] <fouldsy> hey guys, am running amd64 so have firefox + thunderbird wrapped in 32-bit scripts. is there a way to specify an icon to use rather than the X icon in the taskbar for them?
[01:24] <gnomefreak> w3m is a browser thats installed you can use hundreds of browsers
[01:25] <Scar_Freewill> can some one help me with mp3 codecs! why can't i install "libid3tag0" & "libmad0" (deps for mp3 codec)
[01:25] <mitulv4u> and also help me on this...............whenever i try to log into windows drives from ubuntu following error comes   "You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "My Documents"." ...even if i am d administrator.
[01:25] <bliss1__> mustard5: have you noticed this (fist grun example kernel        /xen.gz dom0_mem=65536(second grub example #
[01:25] <bliss1__> kernel        /boot/xen.gz dom0_mem=65536
[01:26] <graveson> fyrestrtr:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12304
[01:26] <jan_> how do i get python's library via apt-get?
[01:27] <mustard5> bliss1__, they look identical except for the location
[01:27] <testingtimes> Hi guys, can anyone point me to a fix for hearing sounds in GAIM whilst playing XMMS?
[01:27] <bluelotus> jan_, try apt-cache search python
[01:27] <bluelotus> jan_, then apt-get install "package_name"
[01:27] <id`> Using apache 2.0.54 on Ubuntu linux (Breezy badger). The error log says I don't have a /var/www/favicon.ico. I can't find it in the config files (wich seems not to be in /etc/apache2/httpd.conf but spread out over some files.. (apache2.conf, sites-available/, etc))
[01:28] <bliss1__> mustard5 : yep thats correct since i use the grub to boot from that os hda2 so i wil take the 2nd exaple and make the alterations we talked about ie (hda0,1) and hda2
[01:28] <sethk> jan_, also, most sites have both http download and ftp download available.  you can try pointing the ftp tool at the site.  get the download site url and try to ftp to that site.  It doesn't always work, but it frequently does
[01:29] <mustard5> bliss1__, k
[01:29] <sethk> jan_, or, you can get someone who is relatively close to you to download the file and make it available via command line ftp
[01:29] <fyrestrtr> graveson: what happens with ATI? Anything at all?
[01:29] <sethk> jan_, or you can take a USB memory stick to a friend, or a school, or a library
[01:29] <bliss1__> mustard5; thanks for your support no ore eggs just yet catch you later
[01:29] <bliss1__> more
[01:30] <mustard5> bliss1__, good luck :)
[01:30] <bliss1__> mustard5: thanks i need it
[01:30] <mustard5> :)
[01:31] <graveson> if i enable the dri option ,then the screen is blank. if i leave this option out then i get those screenshots i showed you. i am having apt-get update issues.Has this got anything to do with it ?
[01:32] <graveson> fyrestrtr: i am new to all this
[01:32] <testingtimes> !help
[01:33] <mbelgedhes> help what
[01:33] <fyrestrtr> graveson: how did you install ATI?
[01:33] <BiSHEP>  <gnomefreak> vmtools ask me where is "make" program on my machine ?
[01:33] <BiSHEP> where it on default
[01:34] <graveson> fyrestrtr: both ways using the ubuntu provided driver and also from ati directly
[01:34] <`underOATH> !universe
[01:34] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[01:35] <fyrestrtr> BiSHEP: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[01:35] <darx> hi i've installed the mplayer plugin for dapper and now real streams spw
[01:35] <darx> spawn multiple windows
[01:35] <darx> hi i've installed the mplayer plugin for dapper and now real streams spawn multiple windows
[01:35] <darx> help
[01:36] <fyrestrtr> graveson: with it off, turn down the resolution on your card, and make sure you have the correct refresh settings for your monitor.
[01:36] <MenZa> Ktorrent seems fair :o
[01:36] <darx> any clues??
[01:36] <graveson> fyrestrtr: with dri off ?
[01:36] <sudomania4> ESPOiG says that he was banned, and would like to know for how long. He apologizes for his behavior, and promises to change. I am NOT ESPOiG, btw
[01:37] <fyrestrtr> graveson: yes
[01:37] <sudomania4> how long are people normally banned?
[01:37] <sethk> sudomania4, we don't know, nobody has ever been unbanned  :)
[01:37] <graveson> fyrestrtr: before i start doing that and rebooting etc. do you have any experience with the apt-get command
[01:37] <fyrestrtr> graveson: sure, what's the problem?
[01:38] <graveson> fyrestrtr: let me paste it on pastebin for you
[01:38] <sethk> sudomania4, I'm not an admin here, sorry
[01:38] <tombo_> Hi Can anyone help wih my install problem
[01:38] <gnomefreak> sudomania4: depends on what was done
[01:38] <fyrestrtr> jan_: which python library? for what?
[01:38] <fyrestrtr> !ask
[01:38] <ubotu> Just ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model, outputs of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl is important.
 BiSHEP: sudo apt-get install build-essential <--after that what will ?
[01:39] <fyrestrtr> BiSHEP: after that, you should have make.
[01:39] <gnomefreak> sudomania4: and depending on who banned you for what will determin how long
[01:39] <BiSHEP> ahh...ok..10x
[01:39] <gnomefreak> pssssst checkinstall
[01:39] <sudomania4> gnomefreak, he claims (he was asking us in #ubuntuforums) that all he did was use abbreviations like "u" for "you", etc.
[01:39] <anymo> tombo_, just aks, I'm sure there's someone to help you...
[01:39] <graveson> fyrestrtr: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12306
[01:40] <anymo> *ask
[01:40] <darx> hi i've installed the mplayer plugin for dapper and now real streams spawn multiple video windows
[01:40] <gnomefreak> sudomania4: who claims?
[01:40] <sudomania4> gnomefreak, ESPOiG claims
[01:40] <darx> and the video is choppy as well
[01:41] <sudomania4> also, ESPOiG would like to know WHY he was banned
[01:41] <sethk> sudomania4, some people get very upset about that, for some reason.
[01:41] <sethk> sudomania4, however (and I'm neutral here) I've not seen them ban anyone without many warnings first.
[01:41] <barbara> hi... i'm a new user of ubuntu... i'm italian..
[01:41] <fyrestrtr> graveson: change your mirrors and try again, and also, the GPG error is "normal", even I get it.
[01:41] <darx> can u hear me??
[01:41] <gnomefreak> sudomania4: you would have to find out who banned him and than as that person but im sure he did more  than that to be banned
[01:41] <sethk> sudomania4, he might have found an admin in a bad mood
[01:41] <gnomefreak> fyrestrtr: 2 command will fix that
[01:41] <sethk> barbara, I like female Italians
[01:41] <tombo_> I have just installed Ubuntu.  When I boot up I just get the brown screen, ubuntu logo and the drums.  I have tried changing "nv" to "vesa" in xorg.conf, but no change, just the drums!
[01:42] <graveson> fyrestrtr:change my mirrors . can you provide more detail please
[01:42] <sethk> barbara, northern or southern italy?
[01:42] <fyrestrtr> gnomefreak: they released the new keys?
[01:42] <sudomania4> darx. yeah
[01:42] <barbara> barbara is the nick of my partner... i'm boy
[01:42] <barbara> rome
[01:42] <gnomefreak> fyrestrtr: new keys for what?
[01:42] <gnomefreak> the repos
[01:42] <fyrestrtr> yeah
[01:42] <sethk> tombo_, check your X log file, see what is going wrong
[01:42] <darx> any reason to hope??
[01:42] <gnomefreak> last time i did it (lastweek) it worked fine
[01:42] <sudomania4> darx, what?
[01:43] <gnomefreak> ^^^ on dapper
[01:43] <fyrestrtr> hrmm, might need to sync then lol
[01:43] <darx> hi i've installed the mplayer plugin for dapper and now real streams spawn multiple video windows
[01:43] <fyrestrtr> ah dapper.
[01:43] <barbara> someone can help me with sudo command?
[01:43] <fyrestrtr> this is breezy
[01:43] <sudomania4> darx, no clue, sorry
[01:43] <tombo_> sethk- sorry but how do I doo that?
[01:43] <darx> okies
[01:43] <gnomefreak> fyrestrtr: same keys though
[01:43] <sethk> barbara, no doubt.  ask a question, don't ask if you can ask a question
[01:43] <gnomefreak> same repos but shhhhhhhh thats not good thing to do
[01:43] <captainredbeard> I've got a problem building a webcam module
[01:43] <sethk> tombo_, the file is /var/log/X something.  let me check
[01:43] <sudomania4> Seveas, are you here?
[01:43] <captainredbeard>   WARNING: Symbol version dump /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.12/Module.symvers
[01:43] <captainredbeard>            is missing; modules will have no dependencies and modversions.
[01:44] <captainredbeard> what does this mean#/
[01:44] <sethk> tombo_, usually /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[01:44] <barbara> ok... i'm trying to set root password... i look the doc... but i get wrong password message...
[01:44] <gnomefreak> captainredbeard: please use pastebin to paste
[01:44] <fyrestrtr> gnomefreak: nope, still same error here.
[01:44] <gnomefreak> fyrestrtr: what repo is it?
[01:44] <sethk> captainredbeard, pretty much what it says
[01:44] <fyrestrtr> http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates
[01:44] <captainredbeard> sethk, how do I fix this
[01:44] <sethk> captainredbeard, the kernel modules are stripped, and the kernel can't catch certain errors.
[01:44] <gnomefreak> ahhhhhhhhhhh that one
[01:44] <barbara> i think root is disable (default)..
[01:44] <sethk> captainredbeard, you don't really need to
[01:44] <gnomefreak> fyrestrtr: yeah that one is not updated yet
[01:45] <sethk> captainredbeard, but if you wish to, you would have to rebuild the kernel
[01:45] <fyrestrtr> also http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security
[01:45] <captainredbeard> I get about 5000lines worth of include/linux/types.h:112: warning: data definition has no type or storage class stuff
[01:45] <gnomefreak> kind of ironic the update repo isnt updated
[01:45] <fyrestrtr> captainredbeard: that's okay, you can ignore that.
[01:45] <sethk> captainredbeard, gcc version 4.x?
[01:45] <captainredbeard> yeah
[01:45] <gnomefreak> fyrestrtr: i have a feeling the security reads from the update repo
[01:45] <sethk> captainredbeard, gcc v 4.x is anal
[01:45] <barbara> how i can enable root?
[01:46] <gnomefreak> barbara: dont please
[01:46] <sethk> barbara, sudo passwd
[01:46] <gnomefreak> barbara: please use sudo
[01:46] <id`> Using apache 2.0.54 on Ubuntu linux (Breezy badger). The error log says I don't have a /var/www/favicon.ico. I can't find it in the config files (wich seems not to be in /etc/apache2/httpd.conf but spread out over some files.. (apache2.conf, sites-available/, etc))
[01:46] <captainredbeard> sethk, theres what I get, and it goes on and on and on http://pastebin.com/661281
[01:46] <sethk> barbara, then enter your password.  you'll be prompted for a root password
[01:46] <fyrestrtr> gnomefreak: probably, I googled it for a bit; and realized it was a goof at ubuntu and I left it at that. Never caused me any problems.
[01:46] <fyrestrtr> !tell barbara about sudo
[01:46] <sethk> captainredbeard, I'll look, but it just means the code is sloppy
[01:46] <tombo_> Sehtk-, it says permission denied.
[01:46] <gnomefreak> tombo_: use sudo
[01:46] <sethk> tombo_, sudo
[01:47] <fyrestrtr> sethk: please don't tell people how to become root.
[01:47] <id`> how do i convert gif images to ico images? apt-cache search gif2 only sees a gif2png
[01:47] <sethk> captainredbeard, wait, I'm wrong
[01:47] <graveson> fyrstrtr:was the above related to me
[01:47] <fyrestrtr> sethk: encourage the use of sudo
[01:47] <sethk> captainredbeard, those are real
[01:47] <`underOATH> ./aim: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[01:47] <`underOATH> How can i fix that ?
[01:47] <sethk> captainredbeard, start by installing autoconf/automake
[01:47] <Madeye> guys, any idea how to open .MDI file ? .MDI ->  A high resolution, tag-based graphics format. .MDI files are only supported by the Microsoft Office 2003 version (and later?) of Microsoft Office Document Imaging. If you are going to share files with people who are using Office Document Imaging 2002, or another document imaging program, save your files in TIFF format for compatibility.
[01:47] <fyrestrtr> `underOATH: install libgtk
[01:47] <horea> Aight I managed to mount my C partition (windows) using the guide you guys told me but I don't know how my D and my E drives are called so I can't mount them.. any ideas? Their NTFS
[01:47] <sethk> fyrestrtr, it's not exactly a secret.  you can find it with a web search in about 10 seconds.
[01:47] <id`> this channel is too big :| the spam...
[01:47] <`underOATH> fyrestrtr, it is installed :/
[01:47] <id`> in seconds my message scrolls off screen
[01:47] <id`> like 6 times nopw
[01:47] <id`> :|
[01:48] <mephis1987> hello , how can i run gnome-blog , i have installed it from synaptic
[01:48] <fyrestrtr> sethk: I know, but most people here will break something, then flood the channel with help requests because they found out how to become root.
[01:48] <sethk> horea, "d" would be /dev/hdbX, e would be /dev/hdcX, etc.
[01:48] <fyrestrtr> mephis1987: check if its installed in your menu.
[01:48] <horea> so I should just try random letters ? :D
[01:48] <horea> numbers*
[01:48] <sethk> horea, the X is 0, 1, 2, or 3, or possibly higher numbers if you have a logical partition
[01:48] <horea> thanks I'll give it a try
[01:48] <sethk> horea, to see what partitions exist, use  fdisk -l /dev/hda
[01:48] <mephis1987> fyrestrtr, what menu is this ?
[01:48] <sethk> horea, sorry, /dev/hdb
[01:48] <id`> Using apache 2.0.54 on Ubuntu linux (Breezy badger). The error log says I don't have a /var/www/favicon.ico. I can't find it in the config files (wich seems not to be in /etc/apache2/httpd.conf but spread out over some files.. (apache2.conf, sites-available/, etc))
[01:48] <fyrestrtr> id`: use something like gimp
[01:49] <fyrestrtr> mephis1987: the gnome menu (the panel on top, that menu)
[01:49] <horea> thanx ;)
[01:49] <jan_> ok, i've been trying many things and now i can run firefox as root, bt not normal user
[01:49] <jan_> how can that be fixed?
[01:49] <tombo_> Sethk- okay I type 'sudo /var/log/Xorg.0.log 'and it says command not found
[01:49] <fyrestrtr> id`: this is because the browser is requesting for a favorite icon for your site, and you don't have one. You can safely ignore this if you want, or learn how to create a bookmark icon for your site.
[01:49] <sethk> tombo_, you have to use a program to look at it.  e.g., cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[01:50] <fyrestrtr> jan_: how did you install it?
[01:50] <sethk> tombo_, or vi /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[01:50] <sethk> tombo_, or any other editor
[01:51] <jan_> it was there b4, just not running. now installed some packages and it runs as root only
[01:51] <etnoy> does anybody know how to use tcp on nfs?
[01:52] <captainredbeard> sethk, alright, autoconf&make installed
[01:52] <sethk> etnoy, sure, you just set it in the config files for mount
[01:52] <sethk> captainredbeard, let's see the output of the build
[01:52] <captainredbeard> the whole thing?
[01:52] <tombo_> Sethk-I used cat and got a whole heap of stuff but I cannot scroll up to see it all.  What should I look for
[01:52] <etnoy> sethk: on the server, rpcinfo displays that the nfs demon only serves udp
[01:52] <fyrestrtr> jan_: what package did you install?
[01:53] <minimec> Hi. I have to create a local udef rule for my Genius WP5540U Tablet. My rule looks something like this: BUS="usb", KERNEL="event*", SYSFS{product}="UC-LOGIC Tablet WP5540U", NAME="input/%k", SYMLINK="tablet". Where do I have to store that. I saved it in 10-local.rules, but this doesn't work. Any hints?
[01:53] <fyrestrtr> etnoy: any reason you want it on tcp?
[01:53] <etnoy> fyrestrtr: yup, encryption over ssh
[01:53] <fyrestrtr> etnoy: any reason you can't use scp
[01:54] <sethk> etnoy, that's the default.  the config is in /etc
[01:54] <jan_> w3m, epiphany (both did not work), then python's in both versions, then another have to look for it to tell which one
[01:54] <etnoy> fyrestrtr: well, I need a _mounted drive_, not individual file transfer
[01:54] <etnoy> sethk: yes, which file do I edit to change it? google gives nothing I'm afraid
[01:54] <sethk> etnoy, using tcp is a reasonable thing to do.
[01:54] <sethk> etnoy, let me look
[01:54] <etnoy> yes
[01:54] <BiSHEP> :)
[01:54] <etnoy> sethk: great, thanks
[01:54] <BiSHEP> one more question
[01:54] <jan_> for what reason could firefox run as root only?
[01:54] <etnoy> sethk: brb
[01:54] <BiSHEP> how mount flash ?
[01:55] <BiSHEP> flashdisk
[01:55] <captainredbeard> sethk: http://pastebin.com/661292
[01:55] <captainredbeard> pastebin isn't big enough
[01:55] <sethk> captainredbeard, that's ok, only the first few lines are meaningful.  it will just repeat the same stuff endlessly
[01:56] <captainredbeard> it won't built
[01:56] <sethk> it still isn't finding autoconf.
[01:56] <captainredbeard> i get make error 2
[01:56] <Storkme> has anyone here installed opera on a 64-bit system?
[01:56] <etnoy> sethk: so
[01:56] <sethk> captainredbeard, looks like you've got mixed up versions.
[01:56] <sethk> etnoy, hold on  :)
[01:57] <sethk> captainredbeard, it seems to be set up to be used with an earlier kernel version
[01:57] <zblach> mornin Hobbsee
[01:57] <captainredbeard> how can I fix that?
[01:58] <sethk> etnoy, on my box there'
[01:58] <WarOfAttrition> hey I'm still using  5.10, would anyone know where to download a debian pkg of libasound2 10.0.10 and if it's ok to install on 5.10 ?
[01:58] <sethk> etnoy, on my box there's a file system-config-nfs
[01:58] <sethk> in /etc/security/console.apps
[01:58] <jan_> epiphany runs  now
[01:58] <etnoy> sethk: okay
[01:58] <RoxQi3xTG>  winxp with sata raid and wanting to install ubuntu dual-boot....not so simple?
[01:59] <jan_> firefox still root only
[01:59] <etnoy> sethk: the server is actually a gentoo server (which I am in the process of migrating)
[01:59] <sethk> etnoy, you can get tcp using mount options
[01:59] <etnoy> yes, i know, but the server doesn't use tcp
[01:59] <sethk> etnoy, good move.  I'm migrating all my latest client's gentoo servers to a real distro
[01:59] <captainredbeard> sethk: if you take a look at the file would you be able to figure it out? I can give you the link
[01:59] <etnoy> and the kernel options are set to tcp
[01:59] <sethk> etnoy, you get unsupported?
[02:00] <etnoy> sethk: "real distro" :)
[02:00] <etnoy> sethk: how do you mean "unsupported" ?
[02:00] <Horsey> hi sll
[02:00] <sethk> etnoy, you also need a version of nfs higher than 2
[02:00] <sethk> etnoy, unsupportable
[02:00] <Horsey> hi all oops
[02:00] <etnoy> okay, I'll need NFSv3 you say?
[02:01] <etnoy> then I see
[02:01] <sethk> etnoy, yes
[02:02] <etnoy> sethk: okay, thanks
[02:02] <jenda> Anyone know how to add a modifier in xmodmap?
[02:02] <etnoy> sethk: the results from google just talked _about_ nfs over tcp
[02:02] <etnoy> not to really do it :)
[02:02] <etnoy> *not how to really do it
[02:03] <etnoy> thanks
[02:03] <WarOfAttrition> anyone know  where I could d/l libasound2 10.0.10 or higher, as a stand along package?
[02:03] <hyphenated> WarOfAttrition: a search on packages.ubuntu.com would be the first place I'd go
[02:03] <Storkme> has anyone here installed opera on a 64-bit system?
[02:04] <WarOfAttrition> they only have repositories
[02:04] <tombo_> I have got /var/log/xorg.0.log up, can some one tell me how to sort uot my display
[02:04] <captainredbeard> sethk?
[02:04] <fyrestrtr> WarOfAttrition: you could upgrade alsa -- you need it in a RPM or just a tarball?
[02:04] <gnomefreak> Storkme: i have never seena  64bit version of opera
[02:05] <Cal> Hey I'm having a problem setting up any kind of identd server on my breezy badger. The only ident I get is the one from the session account name I use. Basically, I wanna change it from "Cal" to "Darky" so I can connect to my bnc :P Anyone know how to do this? with, for example, oident?
[02:05] <Storkme> gnomefreak, that's because there isn't one
[02:05] <sethk> captainredbeard, that code won't work with that kernel version
[02:05] <captainredbeard> will alot of it need to be changed?
[02:05] <fyrestrtr> captainredbeard: just a check, but did you run configure first?
[02:06] <WarOfAttrition> It doesnt matter, I just need to upgrade to 10.0.10 or higher, any way will do
[02:06] <captainredbeard> there is none
[02:06] <fouldsy> Storkme: why ask then ;) ? you'd probably need to run it in 32-bit mode anyways due to plugin issues as with other browsers
[02:06] <gnomefreak> than Storkme than you will have to use chroot with the 32 bit app (never done it not sure how)
[02:06] <sethk> captainredbeard, it's likely to be very difficult
[02:06] <Storkme> gnomefreak, what does a chroot do?
[02:06] <WarOfAttrition> ok dapper has 10.0.10, but someone tell me, would it be safe to install these packages in breezy?
[02:06] <gnomefreak> iirc it allows you to run 32 apps on 64bit system or you could always go with a 32 bit kernel
[02:07] <gnomefreak> WarOfAttrition: im thinking _no_
[02:07] <captainredbeard> what version of gcc is the ubuntu kernel compiled with
[02:07] <minimec> Hi. I have to create a local udef rule for my Genius WP5540U Tablet. My rule looks something like this: BUS="usb", KERNEL="event*", SYSFS{product}="UC-LOGIC Tablet WP5540U", NAME="input/%k", SYMLINK="tablet". Where do I have to store that. I saved it in 10-local.rules, but this doesn't work. Any hints?
[02:07] <_Avatar_> are u still 32 or you like 64 anyways?
[02:07] <gnomefreak> captainredbeard: 4.0 for breezy and dapper
[02:07] <sethk> captainredbeard, I believe version 4, but I'm not sure.  I always throw away the distro kernel and build a clean one from kernel.org
[02:07] <sethk> captainredbeard, that might be worth a shot here.
[02:07] <fouldsy> Storkme: or, try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava using opera insted of firefox. *should* still work and a bit easier than chroot
[02:08] <WarOfAttrition> I checked the dependencies, it says it only depends on libc6, not a higher version than what is already installed
[02:08] <gnomefreak> sethk: 4 is correct all the apps for breezy were compiled with 3.4 but the kernel was 4.0
[02:08] <WarOfAttrition> but I spoke too soon, the site doesn't offer the packages as files
[02:08] <gnomefreak> WarOfAttrition: try it than but i dont suggest it
[02:09] <gnomefreak> mixing dapper and breezy packages is _never_ a good idea
[02:09] <WarOfAttrition> doesn't matter, I can't find the package, and gtk2.8 seems to have a bug which doesn't compile stuff
[02:09] <WarOfAttrition> so I can't compile the package anyways
[02:09] <WarOfAttrition> this is it: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/libs/libasound2 wondering if there's another way to install it?
[02:12] <sethk> WarOfAttrition, if you can't build it, and you can't find a binary ... no
[02:13] <tombo_> Can anyone help with display problem.  A fresh install of Ubuntu boots to a brown screen and the Ubuntu logo, but I cannot get any further.  I have changed nv to vesa in xorg.conf, but no change.  Help please
[02:13] <WarOfAttrition> would alien be able to handle an rpm of this? it seems to install filler packages that do nothing sometimes, or is that just me?
[02:13] <WarOfAttrition> filler packages that are not "broken"
[02:13] <WarOfAttrition> but aren't really installed
[02:13] <muep_> tombo_, does it show any errors?
[02:14] <muep_> and what kind of hardware do you have? an NVIDIA card probably? what else?
[02:14] <sethk> tombo_, what did you find in the logs?
[02:15] <tombo_> Muep,I did not see any errors, but am not sure what they would look like.
[02:15] <erez> I played with the configuration files yesterday and now after i booted the computer gaim crushes on start, can some one help me?
[02:15] <tombo_> Sethk, the log is huge I do not know what to look for
[02:15] <MetaMorfoziS> erez try rename your .gaim folder to .gaim_old
[02:16] <muep_> tombo do you mean you get the brown bootsplash or do you get the gdm login screen ( or part of it or something)
[02:16] <sethk> erez, try using a lower resolution
[02:16] <MetaMorfoziS> when gaim starts you may re set all of your settings
[02:16] <sethk> tombo_, the word "error" would be a good start
[02:16] <MetaMorfoziS> but if you need sg from the old you can check it
[02:16] <graveson> how do i set agppart to no
[02:16] <muep_> tombo, do you get a blue screen that tells you to reconfigure X and restart gdm?
[02:17] <sethk> graveson, in the kernel build there is a config option for that.
[02:17] <erez> no.. it's a sound problem , i played with asound.conf and libao.conf
[02:17] <[M] etaMorfoziS> [gijoe] _: you 're over me... arg
[02:17] <tombo_> muep, I log in with name and password from gui and then the brown screen comes with the drums
[02:17] <Gorax> erez, if you used gedit, chances are it saved a backup file for you
[02:18] <Gorax> same name, 'cept it has a ~ after it
[02:18] <muep_> tombo_, and?
[02:18] <muep_> it stops there?
[02:18] <erez> no it didn't, because i changed them several times.
[02:18] <muep_> it should load you into gnome
[02:19] <[M] etaMorfoziS> erez: all when you play with any conf files you may create backup...
[02:19] <[M] etaMorfoziS> you learned this:D
[02:19] <erez> [M] etaMorfoziS: i guess i learnewd it the hard way..
[02:19] <[M] etaMorfoziS> yes
[02:19] <erez> is there a way to restore them now?
[02:19] <tombo_> muep, yes I can go to a terminal but nothing else
[02:19] <[M] etaMorfoziS> but re set some im account is not the world crush
[02:19] <[M] etaMorfoziS> and you nothing lost
[02:20] <[M] etaMorfoziS> your logs and others are in your .gaim ...
[02:20] <erez> [M] etaMorfoziS: yea, but i can't load gaim.
[02:20] <muep_> tombo_, how do you get the terminal?
[02:20] <muep_> or do you mean the ctrl+alt+fn terminal?
[02:21] <doms> anybody hav a crack for crossover
[02:21] <Seveas> doms, not here
[02:21] <tombo_> Muep, by going to- session, failsafe terminal.
[02:21] <Seveas> we don't support illegal software
[02:21] <muep_> tombo_, try making another user
[02:21] <[M] etaMorfoziS> it isn't start?
[02:21] <Gorax> question: does anybody else here program things?
[02:22] <[M] etaMorfoziS> when you rename you .gaim?
[02:22] <muep_> sudo adduser new-user-name
[02:22] <muep_> then try to log on the new account
[02:22] <erez> [M] etaMorfoziS: no, gaim starts loading then when it tries to make a sound it crushes
[02:23] <Crisson> hi
[02:23] <[M] etaMorfoziS> hoh.. you may set up correct your sound server/driver etc
[02:23] <[M] etaMorfoziS> i'm cant help in that
[02:23] <Crisson> me?
[02:23] <erez> [M] etaMorfoziS: ok, thanks anyway
[02:23] <Crisson> ok
[02:24] <[M] etaMorfoziS> nm
[02:25] <iplgecko> :D
[02:25] <tombo_> Yes, you are agenius the new username worked .  How come? Got to go now  but THANKS
[02:26] <reiki> I have a program that requires to be run as root. It checks ink levels in my printer. I assumed that running it using sudo or gksudo was the same as running it as root, but the button for "Check Ink Levels" is still greyed out. Am I wrong in assuming that a program run as gksudo <program> is the exact same as running as root?
[02:26] <linuxboyfriend> hi all
[02:26] <linuxboyfriend> how can i temporarly stop gnome window manager
[02:26] <muep_> tombo_, the settings on your old user are broken
[02:26] <muep_> it tries to load something that doesn't work
[02:27] <[M] etaMorfoziS> linuxboyfriend: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[02:27] <[M] etaMorfoziS> and
[02:27] <[M] etaMorfoziS> start
[02:27] <sethk> linuxboy, init 1
[02:27] <[M] etaMorfoziS> restart reload force-reload stb
[02:27] <[M] etaMorfoziS> etc
[02:27] <[M] etaMorfoziS> :)
[02:27] <linuxboyfriend> [M] etaMorfoziS, no, i wanna remain gdm running but stop wm
[02:28] <linuxboyfriend> [M] etaMorfoziS, actually i wanna check another wm
[02:28] <[M] etaMorfoziS> in the login screed
[02:28] <[M] etaMorfoziS> screen
[02:28] <[M] etaMorfoziS> you can select
[02:28] <[M] etaMorfoziS> what wm you want
[02:28] <[M] etaMorfoziS> wwyw:DDD
[02:28] <id`> I want fastcgi with apache2. do i need "cd ~;wget http://httpd.apache.org/favicon.ico;sudo mv /home/tom/favicon.ico /var/www/"
[02:28] <id`> woops wrong paste
[02:28] <[M] etaMorfoziS> you can select in the session or sg
[02:28] <linuxboyfriend> [M] etaMorfoziS, hmm, lemme check
[02:28] <[M] etaMorfoziS> okay
[02:28] <id`> I mean, libapache2-mod-fcgid
[02:28] <muep_> tombo_, you can try to remove or rename the config files of your old user
[02:29] <muep_> they are in his home directory
[02:30] <linuxboyfriend> [M] etaMorfoziS, no, my desired wm is not there
[02:30] <linuxboyfriend> [M] etaMorfoziS, i wanna check xpde
[02:30] <[M] etaMorfoziS> xpde?
[02:30] <linuxboyfriend> [M] etaMorfoziS, its manual says to edit .xinitrc but i can not find this file
[02:30] <[M] etaMorfoziS> xfce? no?
[02:31] <linuxboyfriend> [M] etaMorfoziS, no, its xpde
[02:31] <linuxboyfriend> [M] etaMorfoziS, just for fun
[02:31] <[M] etaMorfoziS> i'm not know it
[02:31] <[M] etaMorfoziS> i'm tryed gnome and xfce
[02:31] <[M] etaMorfoziS> and all logins creen has all wm
[02:31] <linuxboyfriend> [M] etaMorfoziS, http://www.xpde.com/
[02:31] <[M] etaMorfoziS> like kde's login manager the kdm and other
[02:32] <[M] etaMorfoziS> lol
[02:32] <[M] etaMorfoziS> :D
[02:32] <linuxboyfriend> [M] etaMorfoziS, why i can not find .xinitrc file
[02:32] <[M] etaMorfoziS> dunno
[02:32] <[M] etaMorfoziS> try locate
[02:32] <[M] etaMorfoziS> or whereis
[02:32] <linuxboyfriend> hmm
[02:32] <linuxboyfriend> k thanks
[02:32] <[M] etaMorfoziS> or find in krusader, or mc
[02:33] <[M] etaMorfoziS> but i don't know what is it support for this
[02:33] <[M] etaMorfoziS> ubuntu official supports gnome kde and xfce
[02:33] <Howitzer> How do i install mouse pointers actually?
[02:33] <[M] etaMorfoziS> i think, but i dunno about xpde.
[02:33] <linuxboyfriend> [M] etaMorfoziS, whats the name of gnome wm
[02:33] <Howitzer> metamorfozi, Ubuntu doesn't support XFCE officially yet
[02:34] <Howitzer> that's for the Dapper release
[02:34] <linuxboyfriend> [M] etaMorfoziS, metacity?
[02:34] <Seveas> linuxboyfriend, metacity indeed
[02:34] <linuxboyfriend> Seveas, ok thanks
[02:34] <[M] etaMorfoziS> yes, sorry xfce is in dapper
[02:34] <[M] etaMorfoziS> in the future
[02:35] <Howitzer> But ehh
[02:35] <[M] etaMorfoziS> linuxboyfriend: try kde:)
[02:35] <Howitzer> How do i install mouse-pointers?
[02:35] <Howitzer> i can't drag 'n drop into the 'pointers box for the mouse
[02:35] <[M] etaMorfoziS> Howitzer: what wm?
[02:36] <Howitzer> Gnome
[02:36] <Howitzer> Metacity
[02:36] <[M] etaMorfoziS> i dunno
[02:36] <Prohibited> Hey, I sorta need help. How do I make "RPM's" deb files to install something?
[02:36] <Howitzer> crap :(
[02:36] <Howitzer> i found this really nice green pointer that would fit perfectly
[02:37] <muep_> Prohibited, there is a program named alien
[02:37] <muep_> it can convert packages
[02:38] <[M] etaMorfoziS> i use gnome's pointers in kde:)
[02:38] <Howitzer> isnt it something like 'alien -rpm2deb <packagename>
[02:38] <Howitzer> lol
[02:38] <Howitzer> i'm thinking of trying out KDE
[02:38] <[M] etaMorfoziS> i think it's a good idea!
[02:38] <[M] etaMorfoziS> :)
[02:38] <Howitzer> but that would make me download a ton of packages
[02:39] <[M] etaMorfoziS> ~100-200mb
[02:39] <Howitzer> and i'm on  a 10gb bandwith :cry:
[02:39] <[M] etaMorfoziS> :DDD
[02:39] <Howitzer> i wonder if i could add my Kubuntu 5.10 packages to my repo and install it that way
[02:39] <Howitzer> (i'm on Dapper)
[02:40] <[M] etaMorfoziS> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-352.php
[02:40] <[M] etaMorfoziS> oh
[02:40] <[M] etaMorfoziS> it's for breezy
[02:41] <mendi_> hello everybody! how to uninstall applications?
[02:41] <[M] etaMorfoziS> Howitzer:
[02:41] <[M] etaMorfoziS> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/dapper/flight-6/
[02:41] <Howitzer> oh wait
[02:41] <Howitzer> kubuntu-desktop only wants to install 211mb
[02:41] <[M] etaMorfoziS> mendi: if it's in pakage, you can do that with a package manager (synaptic or adept)
[02:41] <Howitzer> but it includes openoffice
[02:41] <[M] etaMorfoziS> or from commandline apt-get remove sg
[02:42] <Howitzer> can i exclude openoffice in any way?
[02:42] <silver> what applications you want to uninstall?
[02:42] <[M] etaMorfoziS> Howitzer: it's includes all that you need
[02:42] <Howitzer> ooh right
[02:42] <Howitzer> metapackage
[02:42] <[M] etaMorfoziS> Howitzer: i dunno, but oo is about 80mb
[02:42] <Howitzer> i don't need any office packages except for evolution, abiword and gnumeric(which i don't even use :x )
[02:43] <slixxor> greetings
[02:43] <[M] etaMorfoziS> hoh
[02:43] <slixxor> first time i loaded Xchat :P
[02:43] <[M] etaMorfoziS> Howitzer: i dunno, i dunno
[02:43] <mendi> silver: glib-2.0.0
[02:43] <silver> :)
[02:43] <[M] etaMorfoziS> slixxor: greet in the new world:D
[02:43] <slixxor> Ubuntu is great, minor issues
[02:44] <slixxor> no snd-azx module ;)
[02:44] <silver> mendi: do you have tried `sudo apt-get remove'
[02:44] <Howitzer> i'm just installing kdebase
[02:44] <Howitzer> all i need for a testing
[02:44] <[M] etaMorfoziS> Howitzer: if you need all of the official kde artworks you need the package named "kde" and/or kde-artwork
[02:44] <mendi> silver: no
[02:44] <[M] etaMorfoziS> but i think kdeartwork is in kde:)
[02:44] <Howitzer> yep
[02:44] <Howitzer> kde is ~200mb
[02:44] <Howitzer> kdebase is 30mb xD
[02:44] <[M] etaMorfoziS> :)))
[02:44] <[M] etaMorfoziS> but kde has all off. cursors, themes windecos and other
[02:45] <[M] etaMorfoziS> so if you se the eyecandy you need it:)
[02:45] <Howitzer> i can get my own from kde-look.org can't i? :-)
[02:45] <mendi> silver: i had installed it from source apt-get couldn't remove it
[02:45] <[M] etaMorfoziS> yesyes.. you can.
[02:45] <[M] etaMorfoziS> :)
[02:45] <Prohibited> OK when I try to use "sudo alien -d FILENAME.rpm" I get "dh_testdir" -- "make: dh_testdir: Command not found" -- "make: *** [build]  Error 127"
[02:45] <Howitzer> mendi, i think deleting the directories it's installed in is fine
[02:45] <slixxor> honestly now, is this really a *nix channel that offers help?? thats a wow for me who has been a Windows developer for years looking for an answer to a couple of questions to only be faced with a "no spoon feeding!" +b
[02:46] <[M] etaMorfoziS> the  base firefox is nasty , you need from kde-look.org the form skin: "winterfox" and some theme from update.mozilla.org (if you use firefox)
[02:46] <Howitzer> ahahaha
[02:46] <mendi> Howitzer: how do i find those directories?
[02:46] <neoncode> How do I change the applications menu logo?
[02:46] <Howitzer> compile from source again? :D
[02:46] <[M] etaMorfoziS> ^^ yes, or kbfx
[02:47] <[M] etaMorfoziS> that a shit and bugous program
[02:47] <[M] etaMorfoziS> if you said abotu kde.
[02:47] <mendi> Howitzer: thanks! :)
[02:47] <Howitzer> no idea if it will work :x
[02:47] <Howitzer> but you might see some references to the locations
[02:47] <Howitzer> have t go
[02:47] <Howitzer> See you all !
[02:47] <[M] etaMorfoziS> :)
[02:47] <mendi> any other ideas to remove applications that were installed from source?
[02:48] <Slixxor> ok, while im here. - Sound :) LG LW60 Express laptop with the dreaded intel azalia chipset. if somebody can A). provide some source and B). teach me how to recompile my kernel (rather than just telling me that is) that would be helpful :P
[02:49] <mendi> any other ideas to remove applications that were installed from source?
[02:49] <MetaMorfoziS> neoncode what wm you use?
[02:49] <MetaMorfoziS> mendi: you can remove the binraies
[02:49] <MetaMorfoziS> from /usr/bin or where you installed
[02:49] <MetaMorfoziS> and the config files from your home
[02:49] <Slixxor> everyone says this = "just install the snd-azx module and recompile the kernel" not how to, or where to start *screams*
[02:49] <MetaMorfoziS> /home/you/.appname
[02:49] <neoncode> MetaMorfoziS: I have no idea, I just loaded the default in dapper. I'm a refuge from Kubuntu because Kubuntu dapper sucks
[02:50] <MetaMorfoziS> so you use kde?
[02:50] <Slixxor> sorry guys is there a queue?
[02:50] <Slixxor> i'll wait :)
[02:50] <mendi> MetaMorfoziS: im very new to linux world: could you tell me where those packages are installed (like Program Files in windows)
[02:51] <MetaMorfoziS> i'm new like you, 2months using lin.
[02:51] <neoncode> MetaMorfoziS: nope, I did but as I said it looks ugly as sin in dapper to I moved to Gnome.
[02:51] <jinho> hey guys this might sound really bad but how do I instal something from a tar?
[02:51] <obnibolongo> mendi: everywhere; there's no specific place
[02:51] <MetaMorfoziS> yes
[02:51] <Slixxor> jinho, extract the files, and look for install.sh
[02:51] <MetaMorfoziS> but if its a package you can remove it
[02:51] <Slixxor> in buntu right click the file and extract
[02:51] <MetaMorfoziS> apt-get remove package
[02:51] <obnibolongo> mendi: I mean, there is a specific place, but no central directory like Program Files
[02:51] <MetaMorfoziS> if from source
[02:51] <MetaMorfoziS> i dunno:)
[02:51] <jinho> Slixxor: is .sh the linux equivalent to .exe?
[02:52] <Slixxor> similar yes
[02:52] <MetaMorfoziS> yes
[02:52] <Prohibited> OK when I try to use "sudo alien -d FILENAME.rpm" I get "dh_testdir" -- "make: dh_testdir: Command not found" -- "make: *** [build]  Error 127"
[02:52] <MetaMorfoziS> but
[02:52] <MetaMorfoziS> you can open the .sh with an editor
[02:52] <Slixxor> think of it like a script
[02:52] <MetaMorfoziS> and you see the source
[02:52] <MetaMorfoziS> yes
[02:52] <jinho> there is no install.sh
[02:52] <mendi> obnibolongo: i had put the tarballs into /usr/local/src/ and after untarring them linux creates a folder for them. is that the install directory?
[02:52] <jinho> this is firefox btw
[02:53] <Slixxor> open a terminal window and use the following command "sudo sh /path/file.sh"
[02:53] <Slixxor> what files are there?
[02:53] <mendi> Prohibited: reinstall gcc
[02:53] <MetaMorfoziS> firefox
[02:53] <MetaMorfoziS> you not need install
[02:53] <obnibolongo> mendi: don't know, I don't use source tarballs
[02:53] <Slixxor> mendi: then use apt-get and reinstall it
[02:53] <MetaMorfoziS> only need run run-mozil.sh
[02:53] <MetaMorfoziS> only need run run-mozilla.sh
[02:53] <jinho> oic
[02:54] <Slixxor> jinho
[02:54] <Slixxor> are you using ubuntu?
[02:54] <jinho> Slixxor: it says cannot execute
[02:54] <jinho> Slixxor: yes I am
[02:54] <Slixxor> open terminaland just do this "sudo apt-get install firefox" - then super user password
[02:55] <Slixxor> save yourself some time :)
[02:55] <muep_> actually the package is mozilla-firefox, I think
[02:55] <Slixxor> appologies, have'nt had to install it myself :P
[02:55] <Slixxor> lets dbl check one sec.
[02:55] <jinho> it says firefox is already the latext version
[02:55] <muep_> and the password required is the normal user password
[02:55] <jinho> but its at 1.0.7
[02:56] <MetaMorfoziS> jinho: the altest stable
[02:56] <muep_> it's the latest ubuntu version of firefox
[02:56] <Slixxor> muep_ is correct it is mozilla-firefox
[02:56] <MetaMorfoziS> you may downlaod the newest: www.getfirefox.com
[02:56] <MetaMorfoziS> and
[02:56] <MetaMorfoziS> !friefox1.5
[02:56] <ubotu> MetaMorfoziS: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:56] <MetaMorfoziS> !firefox1.5
[02:56] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[02:56] <jinho> really? it doesnt even have an options buton
[02:56] <sissi> hi, I loose my touchpad, it going mad and I have this log message : Apr 15 03:47:47 localhost kernel: [4295598.483000]  psmouse.c: TouchPad at isa0060/serio4/input0 lost sync at byte 1
[02:57] <Slixxor> sissi, get a mouse ;)
[02:57] <muep_> jinho, it should have
[02:57] <MetaMorfoziS> Slixxor: :DDD
[02:57] <sissi> Slixxor, :)
[02:57] <muep_> it's at a different place than in windows
[02:57] <Slixxor> muep_ is once again quite right :P
[02:58] <jinho> well thanks for the link though!
[02:58] <muep_> but 1.0.7 is the firefox version used in breezy. it isn't updated because doing so would break many other packages
[02:58] <obnibolongo> MetaMorfoziS: out of curiosity, can't I add dapper drake to sources.list, configure somewhere I prefer breezy, and do apt-get -t dapper install mozilla-firefox to install firefox 1.5 ?
[02:58] <Slixxor> welcome to dependency wars :P
[02:58] <Moox> hi there. Are all PLF repositories down ?
[02:58] <muep_> but ubuntu maintainers port the security patches from newer foxes to the ubuntu one
[02:58] <Slixxor> Moox, no
[02:58] <Slixxor> check your repositories.
[02:59] <MetaMorfoziS> obnibolongo: you can't
[02:59] <MetaMorfoziS> or
[02:59] <MetaMorfoziS> you can find an unstable or unofficial repo
[02:59] <sissi> Slixxor, seriously you have no solution ? :/
[02:59] <MetaMorfoziS> and yo can add it:)
[02:59] <Slixxor> to your touch pad?
[02:59] <sissi> Slixxor, yes
[02:59] <curiita> hi guys, i am having troubles with my Ubuntu, i am kind of new in this linux stuff
[02:59] <Moox> Slixxor: I have already check and I try a few others but no one works
[02:59] <MetaMorfoziS> but the easiest way it the !firefox1.5
[02:59] <curiita> my keyboard is all wrong :x how to change it?
[02:59] <obnibolongo> MetaMorfoziS: but in Debian I could install a single package from unstable if required; dapper is the new unstable (well, kinda...)
[03:00] <Slixxor> lol, dont ask me i'm new to linux also i'm a Windows developer, im still waiting to get my answer for my SND-AZX driver issue.
[03:00] <MetaMorfoziS> i dunno about dapper, i'm on breezy
[03:00] <Slixxor> Moox, can you browse webpages?
[03:00] <obnibolongo> ok
[03:00] <MetaMorfoziS> and, i'm newbie a little bit, i'm on linux 2months ago
[03:00] <Moox> Slixxor: thanks...
[03:00] <MetaMorfoziS> i has the basics, and no other:)
[03:01] <Slixxor> seriously?
[03:01] <curiita> anyone knows how to change the keymap order the way i want?
[03:01] <Slixxor> can you?
[03:01] <Slixxor> DNS issue?
[03:01] <Slixxor> Debian is bad for automatic routing
[03:01] <sissi> curiita, Systeme->pref->keyboard ?
[03:01] <MetaMorfoziS> curiita: in kde?
[03:01] <curiita> sissi i-ve tryed it already :x still the same, nothing changed
[03:02] <curiita> MetaMorfoziS, no, gnome
[03:02] <MetaMorfoziS> i dunno.
[03:02] <MetaMorfoziS> in kde i know
[03:02] <jinho> Also I seemed to have screwed up my enlightenment packages when trying to install it yesterday
[03:02] <Slixxor> so many new people - no experienced users
[03:02] <curiita> i/ve just finished installing ubuntu 5 min ago :x
[03:02] <MetaMorfoziS> and in cmdline: setkbfx-map [yourlanguage] 
[03:02] <jinho> in synapitc the enlightenment and enlightenment-data packages cant be installed because it says their entries are in the database but they do not actually exist
[03:03] <Slixxor> jinho *shrug*
[03:03] <ph1qt10n> i think i messed up my sources.list with automatix
[03:03] <duck> try portage :P
[03:03] <jinho> Slixxor: lol
[03:03] <mwe> !automatix
[03:03] <ubotu> automatix is, like, totally, unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[03:03] <salty72> hi guys
[03:03] <curiita> well, i-ve tryed kbdconfig but it has done nothing...
[03:04] <sylvan> I updated the latest stuff in Dapper, and then my internet connection stopped working. I deactivated and reactivated the ethernet connection in "Networking" and then it works again, but everything is REALLY REALLY slow. Any ideas?
[03:04] <Slixxor> bah
[03:04] <Slixxor> finally.
[03:04] <Prohibited> This might sound silly, but is anyone willing to make this file a .deb -- it's an rpm... If anyone wants to help say so and I'll give you the link :)
[03:04] <Slixxor> just got j2se working for buntu
[03:04] <MetaMorfoziS> Slixxor: !java ?:D
[03:05] <Slixxor> if anyone wants a deb i've just finished converting one and will upload it for public use
[03:05] <joh6nn> Prohibited: use alien
[03:05] <Slixxor> i had register to IBM.com for the shit
[03:05] <Slixxor> waste of my time
[03:05] <MetaMorfoziS> :)
[03:05] <Prohibited> joh6nn, I can't use alien it's giving me make errors.
[03:05] <jinho> Slixxor: you're gonna want to kill me, but how do you go about installing DEB's?
[03:05] <ph1qt10n> when is the new version of ubuntu coming out?
[03:05] <Slixxor> couldnt convert the files from sun
[03:05] <Slixxor> one sec.
[03:05] <mwe> !deb
[03:05] <joh6nn> Prohibited: what errors?
[03:05] <ubotu> To install a .deb file: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb  (but note that the program you want might be installable using !apt from the !repos)
[03:05] <ra21vi> ph1qt10n: wait for dapper
[03:05] <curiita> hum, one more thing, why that for superuser mode, i have to write sudo -s -H and not only su ?
[03:05] <Prohibited> H/o Joh6nn..
[03:06] <MetaMorfoziS> jinho: you can install deb-s with: sudo dpkg -i your.deb
[03:06] <ph1qt10n> ra21vi: when is dapper coming out?
[03:06] <slack_prad> shreevatsa, from vt?
[03:06] <MetaMorfoziS> jun 1
[03:06] <MetaMorfoziS> iirc
[03:06] <jinho> MetaMorfoziS: gotcha, I'll give that a shot
[03:06] <ra21vi> ph1qt10n: june 1
[03:06] <ph1qt10n> ra21vi: is it gonna be good?
[03:06] <ra21vi> but i am not going to switch to dapper :(
[03:07] <ph1qt10n> why not
[03:07] <shreevatsa> slack_prad: er, I guess you could say so...
[03:07] <MetaMorfoziS> i wait for the stable
[03:07] <slack_prad> shreevatsa, i meant vinuthomas
[03:07] <NighT> hello
[03:07] <Prohibited> "make: dh_testdir: Command not found Make: *** [build]  Error 127"
[03:07] <shreevatsa> slack_prad: Although if asked where I was "from"; I could say a lot of things ;)
[03:07] <Slixxor> far out
[03:07] <ra21vi> ph1qt10n: dapper has many new things and enhancements.. its fast.. and work going on to make it more stable ;)
[03:07] <shreevatsa> slack_prad: yes, got that
[03:07] <Slixxor> what a long winded process :P
[03:08] <ph1qt10n> ra21vi: is there a website with the new info?
[03:08] <NighT> i dont know how to convert .rpm to .deb files......do i need a certain software for the conversion?
[03:08] <slack_prad> shreevatsa,   oh nice :) so hows ubuntu coming?
[03:08] <ra21vi> i did download many .debs for my ubuntu 5.10 ...
[03:08] <Gorax> NighT, you need something called 'alien'
[03:08] <Gorax> it's not hard to get
[03:08] <NighT> alien?
[03:08] <ph1qt10n> Night: sudo apt-get install alien
[03:08] <graveson> can anyone recommend a good graphics card to use with ubuntu (linux) .i need to get rid of this ati card
[03:08] <Slixxor> sudo alien -d filename | then i did sudo chown slixxor:slixxor filename | just to convert a bloody rpm to a deb grr :P
[03:08] <ra21vi> so, i think as i don't have internet for my PC, so i cannot use dapper
[03:08] <ph1qt10n> Night: in the terminal
[03:08] <shreevatsa> slack_prad: It's what I've been using for about a year; it's great :)
[03:08] <NighT> yes i know
[03:08] <NighT> = D
[03:08] <joh6nn> Prohibited: are you sure you have make installed?
[03:08] <Gorax> what Slixxor said
[03:09] <sylvan> so nobody knows why the internet connection is chugging a long at modem speeds all of a sudden (it doesn't in windows, and didn't before I upgraded to dapper)?
[03:09] <ra21vi> NighT:  sudo alien -d file.rpm  and u will get file.deb in that dir
[03:09] <NighT> ok its installting
[03:09] <slack_prad> shreevatsa, also visit #vt once in a while
[03:09] <MetaMorfoziS> Prohibited: has you the build-essentials?
[03:09] <wezzer> hi everyone, I was wondering if there is such software for ubuntu which would download all my mail messages via POP but then always leave those messages to server too
[03:09] <jan_> can i upgrade from hoary to breezer without having to setup everything again?
[03:09] <slack_prad> shreevatsa, and you are not on the forum anymore?
[03:09] <wezzer> so that it would be kind of backup software for my mail
[03:09] <NighT> ok it finshed
[03:09] <curiita> anyone knows how to chang the keyboard order of the keys? i-m having troubles with that :x
[03:09] <MetaMorfoziS> wezzer: thudnerbird?
[03:09] <NighT> finished
[03:09] <MetaMorfoziS> !thunderbird1.5
[03:09] <ubotu> hmm... thunderbird1.5 is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ThunderbirdNewVersion
[03:09] <ra21vi> any one know how to update my ubuntu source list and new package list offline
[03:09] <wezzer> MetaMorfoziS: no, my server does not have X server
[03:10] <NighT> ok thank you
[03:10] <wezzer> MetaMorfoziS: so it had to be non-GUI software
[03:10] <MetaMorfoziS> hoh, sorry,
[03:10] <MetaMorfoziS> yes, i dunno.
[03:10] <joh6nn> Prohibited: it's hard for me to tell from the way that looks if it's an error from make or if it's an error because make isn't installed.  check to see if make is installed
[03:10] <MetaMorfoziS> i'm a gui-geek
[03:10] <MetaMorfoziS> :)
[03:10] <NighT> oh and i dont understand the concept on installing internet explorer 6
[03:10] <wezzer> ok :)
[03:10] <jan_> can i upgrade from hoary to breezer without having to setup everything again?
[03:10] <NighT> its impossible
[03:10] <NighT> i tried wine
[03:10] <NighT> but it said i have to be connected to the internet
[03:10] <pip> Hello!
[03:10] <NighT> helo
[03:10] <MetaMorfoziS> jan_ yes
[03:11] <Prohibited> I'm checking to see right now. H/o
[03:11] <wezzer> I mean I tried Hula main server which has pop-download function, but it didn't work for some strange reason
[03:11] <curiita> is this a help channel? are there any others?
[03:11] <wezzer> curiita: yes, this is the help channel
[03:11] <sonicjam> he guys i got question
[03:11] <MetaMorfoziS> i think you need the correct repositoryes and a big bandwidth:D
[03:11] <devie> hey guys, I'm running a Dell Optiplex GX260 (P4 2.0GHz / 1GB RAM) and using the onboard Intel chipset video card. When I installed FC5 recently, I could set my display up to 1200x1024, but with Ubuntu it only gives me the option up to 1024x768, can anyone point me to a reference to get this fixed?
[03:11] <ph1qt10n> Night: why do you want IE6 when FF is safer?
[03:11] <NighT> i know
[03:11] <wahjava> Is there any documentation on how to package python apps in Debian ??
[03:11] <NighT> but i just want a test out see if wine works
[03:11] <NighT> and to see how it works
[03:12] <wezzer> devie: what kind of monitor do you have?
[03:12] <Gorax> devie, there's a config you can change that has all of the supported resolutions in it
[03:12] <ph1qt10n> Night: do you have LAN or DU?
[03:12] <Slixxor> jinho
[03:12] <devie> wezzer, 17" dell
[03:12] <joh6nn> NighT: wine works very well for simpler apps.  if you're looking to put some windows apps through their paces, you'll likely want CrossOver Office
[03:12] <NighT> i have cable modem
[03:12] <devie> Gorax, how do I access the config?
[03:12] <Gorax> add the ones you know work, and you should be able to use them without any problems
[03:12] <MetaMorfoziS> ph1qt10n: ie is a shit browser, and based on windows, it's ported to wine (winemulator) but only for webdesigners, not for use. (I think ie on windows not able to use, it's only able to annoy, and get spywares/virusess)
[03:12] <wezzer> devie: do you know it's horizontal and vertical sync rates by heart?
[03:12] <NighT> Crossover Office
[03:12] <joh6nn> CrossOver Office isn't free, but it's more polished than wine
[03:12] <sonicjam> hey guys what do i do to get any apps i download for linux to work
[03:12] <ra21vi> AnyOne. its very urgent.. i could not update my package list anyway. i dont have internet connec. on my PC...
[03:12] <NighT> i can download that correct?
[03:12] <NighT> :)
[03:13] <devie> wezzer: umm, no - It's a cheap $200 computer I bought to play around with, I don't have any manuals
[03:13] <devie> I can try to google it though
[03:13] <NighT> how much it costs?
[03:13] <Slixxor> hazaa
[03:13] <Slixxor> i have done it
[03:13] <joh6nn> NighT: i'm not sure.  i think about $40
[03:13] <NighT> wow
[03:13] <wezzer> devie: ahum, but do you what model it is?
[03:13] <Slixxor> j2se
[03:13] <Gorax> I have nfi devie, I did it today, but I was just lucky enough to find it (hooray for my 2nd day in Linux)
[03:13] <NighT> i dont have that kind of money
[03:13] <NighT> lol
[03:13] <joh6nn> nor do i
[03:13] <sethk> devie, very likely that it believes your monitor can't do any better than that resolution
[03:13] <sonicjam> hey guys what do i do to get any apps i download for linux to work
[03:13] <NighT> = D
[03:13] <joh6nn> but i also don't need to run windows apps on linux.  ; D
[03:14] <NighT> why not?
[03:14] <slack_prad> shreevatsa, good day
[03:14] <devie> wezzer: ultrascan p780
[03:14] <Prohibited> Ok it seems like I'm having apt-get issues now >=/
[03:14] <ph1qt10n> NighT: you can always get it for free
[03:14] <Prohibited> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[03:14] <sethk> devie, do dpkg_reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:14] <MetaMorfoziS> Slixxor: :)
[03:14] <NighT> how?
[03:14] <joh6nn> what for?
[03:14] <Prohibited> It gives quite a few of those errors.
[03:14] <Gorax> actually sethk, you can choose the resolutions supported when you install Ubuntu from scratch
[03:14] <NighT> ;-)
[03:14] <sethk> devie, or possibly xorg-xserver, I forget.
[03:14] <Gorax> changing them from there is a fair bit harder though
[03:14] <wezzer> devie: ok, wait a second and I'll ask google what are those sync rates :)
[03:14] <joh6nn> Prohibited: apt-get update
[03:14] <ph1qt10n> NighT: know how to use bit torrent?
[03:14] <sethk> Gorax, yes, I know, but that doesn't mean you can't do it afterwards as well
[03:14] <Gorax> at least for me :/
[03:14] <wezzer> MetaMorfoziS: found it! http://freshmeat.net/projects/mailstorage/
[03:14] <NighT> yeah
[03:14] <NighT> i was gonna mention that
[03:14] <devie> wezzer, yeah, I can find my sync rates, but how do I tell linux about them :)
[03:14] <MetaMorfoziS> you cool:)
[03:15] <NighT> but i was hoping one of ya are going to say NOOO
[03:15] <NighT> it can containa  virus
[03:15] <Gorax> I know you can, 'cause I removed my 1600x1200 resolution from the list ;)
[03:15] <wezzer> devie: umm, there is file /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:15] <Prohibited> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[03:15] <NighT> brb
[03:15] <devie> sethk: I tried that earlier, it said I already had the newest version
[03:15] <wezzer> devie: you should put those rates there
[03:15] <wezzer> devie: and then restart X
[03:15] <Prohibited> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[03:15] <MetaMorfoziS> devie, you may BACKUP it before you change it:)
[03:15] <Prohibited> But that's what I ran :|
[03:15] <sethk> devie, no, that's not what I'm telling you to do
[03:15] <wezzer> devie: and it *should* work :^)
[03:15] <sethk> devie, you do not reinstall it, you _reconfigure_ it
[03:16] <Prohibited> Oh, got it ;)
[03:16] <devie> wezzer, thanks, I'll try it :)
[03:16] <Prohibited> make is already the newest version.
[03:16] <devie> sethk: I'll try again real quick, thanks
[03:16] <horea> I got a nother problem :\ when I try to play some mp3 files XMMS just freezes when I hit the play button or If i try doing it with rythmbox it says I don't have mp3 support :\ how do i get this stuff working?
[03:16] <NighT> Where should i save bit torrents?
[03:16] <wezzer> devie: ask if you get any problems
[03:16] <NighT> folder
[03:16] <Gorax> applications -> sys tools -> config editor -> /desktop/gnome/screen/ubuntu/0/resolution <-- there
[03:16] <NighT> home folder?
[03:16] <frayoyo> Hi starman
[03:16] <pip> ubotu, hello
[03:16] <ubotu> hey, pip
[03:16] <Gorax> I forgot about the search thing
[03:16] <wezzer> devie: there is also step-by-step config program which can be used if editing that file is hard or something
[03:17] <joh6nn> Prohibited: when you run alien, do you run it with sudo?
[03:17] <NighT> ubotu is the best = D
[03:17] <ubotu> NighT: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:17] <pip> !ping
[03:17] <ubotu> pong
[03:17] <starman> Hi
[03:17] <NighT> LoL
[03:17] <Prohibited> Yes
[03:17] <pip> NighT, No need to save
[03:17] <MetaMorfoziS> :DDDDD
[03:17] <Gorax> wait... that's not the one I found before :/
[03:17] <NighT> well ist telling me to save in what location
[03:17] <NighT> or download in what location
[03:17] <NighT> is*
[03:18] <shreevatsa> !pong
[03:18] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, shreevatsa
[03:18] <joh6nn> Prohibited: what is the rpm you're trying to convert?
[03:18] <Prohibited> http://www.nuclearelephant.com/projects/mod_evasive/
[03:18] <starman> I don't seem to be able to enable the crossfade-mode in Amarok, does anyone know why?
[03:18] <shreevatsa> pip: You can only play one shot? :p
[03:18] <pip> NighT, Just open it so that Bittorrrent can know the site ,and download begins
[03:18] <Prohibited> I think I got it installed using cvs
[03:18] <NighT> but now iom in a windows saying "Save location for bittorrent session"
[03:18] <NighT> im*
[03:19] <NighT> window*
[03:19] <NighT> so should i save it on the /home folder>?
[03:19] <pip> shreevatsa, ?
[03:19] <WarOfAttrition> what is the command to detect the monitors horiz sync ?
[03:20] <shreevatsa> pip: You can do !ping, but not !pong :)
[03:20] <sethk> WarOfAttrition, try running dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server
[03:20] <pip> shreevatsa, OK
[03:20] <pip> !ping
[03:20] <ubotu> pong
[03:20] <NighT> nevermind
[03:20] <sethk> WarOfAttrition, sorry, xserver-xort
[03:20] <sethk> WarOfAttrition, try running dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:20] <sethk> can't type
[03:20] <joh6nn> Prohibited: you said you got it?
[03:21] <WarOfAttrition> someone in here once told me how to find it with a command, and it worked. I dont want to reset the xorg file
[03:21] <pip> shreevatsa, My local network work slow
[03:21] <pip> !ping
[03:21] <ubotu> pong
[03:21] <sethk> WarOfAttrition, you don't have to reset the config file, you can stop before it gets to that point.
[03:22] <sethk> plus you back it up.
[03:22] <Slixxor> ubotu
[03:22] <Slixxor> original
[03:22] <NighT> Ok now its downloading.
[03:22] <NighT> = D
[03:23] <Gorax> wow... I finally got the compiler working...
[03:23] <Gorax> only took me 2 days :/
[03:23] <MetaMorfoziS> :)
[03:23] <Slixxor> lol, i've ben trying to install my sound card for 6 months :P
[03:23] <pip> SlicerDicer,How can I update to Dapper?
[03:23] <Gorax> I was lucky in regards to things like that
[03:23] <NighT> So when this finishes downloading how do i open it
[03:23] <Gorax> they worked straight away without my input ;)
[03:23] <NighT> with terminal?
[03:23] <xbox_sky> hi! what's a command in order to list my eth0/1 alt wlan in console?
[03:24] <Slixxor> ironically my sound works in an older version of CentOS :P
[03:24] <NighT> its a .TB file
[03:24] <NighT> .TBP
[03:24] <starman> Where can I find a cd-rom plugin for ePSXe that really works?
[03:24] <mephis1987> hello
[03:24] <pip> NighT, either you want
[03:24] <MetaMorfoziS> Slixxor: @ notebook the cmd line replaced with nasty lines, because i can'T setup the direct rendering:)
[03:24] <NighT> what can i do with that file?
[03:24] <mephis1987> i have installed GRUB in MBR as default
[03:24] <Slixxor> what card?
[03:24] <pip> NighT, what file?
[03:24] <mephis1987> how can i move it into first section of linux partition
[03:24] <NighT> crossove office
[03:24] <NighT> its a .TBP file
[03:25] <Slixxor> mephis1987, has to be done on boot
[03:25] <pip> NighT, What are you going to do with it ?
[03:25] <WarOfAttrition> what do you think of initng is it any good or is it too buggy still?
[03:25] <NighT> open windows apps
[03:25] <NighT> Codeweavers.CrossOver.Office.Professional.v5.0.1-SHOCK.3461187.TPB
[03:25] <mephis1987> Slixxor, more details pls
[03:25] <NighT> thats the file
[03:26] <Slixxor> perhaps try using your ubuntu disk and resetting it up again
[03:26] <xbox_sky> how do I view my network setups /eth0/1 with a command in console?
[03:26] <wdennis> hello all
[03:26] <Slixxor> or editing grub.conf in your /etc folder first
[03:26] <mwe> xbox_sky: nano /etc/network/interfaces
[03:26] <NighT> wdennis hello
[03:27] <starman> hello, wdennis
[03:27] <Slixxor> im not support mephis1987 im still waiting for support for my sound card :P
[03:27] <pip> NighT, OK! you can mount the pattition of NTFS
[03:27] <wdennis> How do I get mod_perl running in my Apache2 install?
[03:27] <xbox_sky> mwe, thank you, but i'm looking for a command that displays the results directly in console?
[03:27] <NighT> you mean partition?
[03:27] <Slixxor> wdennis, works by default
[03:27] <mwe> xbox_sky: what do you wanna know?
[03:27] <fyrestrtr> mwe: cat /etc/network/interfaces
[03:27] <pip> NighT, Yeah ,you are right
[03:27] <fyrestrtr> xbox_sky: ^
[03:27] <mwe> xbox_sky: ifconfig shows what's up and the ip
[03:27] <NighT> just to tell you i dont have the windows xp cd
[03:28] <NighT> = \
[03:28] <xbox_sky> oh dear
[03:28] <xbox_sky> thanks mwe/frestrtr ^_^
[03:28] <wdennis> Is it compiled in? I didn't see it in mods-available
[03:28] <yure> has anyone had usb issues with gnome volume manager. they mount automatically, cdrom works great, but usb throws already mounted when i click on the icon
[03:28] <Slixxor> ok work in the morning im off, i'll wait for someone to finally give me sound ;)
[03:28] <NighT> pip, Do i need the windows xp cd to mount what ever you want me to mount?
[03:28] <fyrestrtr> NighT: no
[03:28] <mwe> yure: and if you type 'mount' in a terminal, does it show as mounted?
[03:28] <NighT> Oh
[03:28] <fyrestrtr> !ntfs
[03:29] <ubotu> from memory, ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[03:29] <pip> NighT, No , I mean  you can mount on ubuntu
[03:29] <fyrestrtr> NighT: see that ^
[03:29] <mephis1987> !grub
[03:29] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[03:29] <NighT> pip, And how do i do that
[03:29] <NighT> ?
[03:29] <yure> mwe: all is mounted with pmount automatically
[03:29] <pip> NighT, yeah ,good question
[03:29] <fyrestrtr> !tell NighT about ntfs
[03:29] <mthakur> mustard5, are u there?
[03:29] <pip> NighT, There is a shellscript
[03:29] <arthurgeek> Hello all! I'm having some trouble here.. I'm trying to install buntu 5.10 Server. I have two Ethernet Cards (Encore ENL832-TX-RENT) that uses Realtek 8139 chips. But, Ubuntu don't find these cards. And when i run lspci all i get is: Ethernet controller: Unknown device xxxx:8139 (rev 10)
[03:29] <Slixxor> i;ve gotta be honest guys alot of your questions have already been answered on this page i;ve found http://ubuntuguide.org/
[03:29] <NighT> Oh
[03:29] <BiSHEP> hi
[03:29] <starman> anybody familiar with the ePSXe?
[03:29] <NighT> hold on let me read the wiki
[03:29] <yure> mwe: just when i click on the icon on in my computer it throws an error: already mounted
[03:29] <pip> NighT, please wait a moment
[03:29] <BiSHEP> have a java in Ubuntu ?
[03:30] <NighT> hank you ubtu
[03:30] <mwe> yure: yes. I'm not sure what the problem is. what are you clicking when it says already mounted?
[03:30] <MetaMorfoziS> BiSHEP:
[03:30] <NighT> thank you ubotu
[03:30] <BiSHEP> coz i want run gui app...and it says what i need goto sun.com for Java
[03:30] <MetaMorfoziS> !tell BiSHEP about java
[03:30] <CraiZE> NighT, ubotu is a bot :)
[03:30] <pip> NighT, the shellscript can help you antomaticlly
[03:30] <CraiZE> !tell BiSHEP about java-debs
[03:30] <Slixxor> !snd-azx
[03:30] <NighT> i know
[03:30] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Slixxor
[03:30] <NighT> lol
[03:30] <MetaMorfoziS> :)))
[03:30] <NighT> just saying thank you to it
[03:30] <Slixxor> ROFL
[03:30] <Slixxor> !useless
[03:30] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Slixxor
[03:30] <mwe> BiSHEP: you can install java with apt if you add sevaes' repos
[03:31] <MetaMorfoziS> !tell useless about SlicerDicer
[03:31] <MetaMorfoziS> !tell useless about Slixxor
[03:31] <MetaMorfoziS> :)
[03:31] <Gorax> a lot of those things involve using a terminal, Slixxor, which a few people might not be used to ('specially if they came from windows)
[03:31] <devie> wezzer, sethk: I tried running dpkg-reconfigure and it does detect my monitor and video card properly, just doesn't offer me the 1280x1024 resolution, so I modified xorg.conf and that worked
[03:31] <yure> mwe: i am clicking the flasdisk icon in my computer
 how ?
[03:31] <pip> NighT, please wait a miniute...I will find a link for you
[03:31] <devie> thanks wezzer, and sethk
[03:31] <NighT> ok.
[03:31] <arthurgeek> anyone?
[03:31] <mwe> yure: but is it indeed mounted already?
[03:31] <yure> which should mount the device or show contents, but instead it does mount if not mounted, and it doesnt show
[03:31] <yure> mwe: it is mounted
[03:31] <yure> it's just gnome doesn't seem to see it
[03:32] <wdennis> Slixxor: Thanks, I'm off to RTFM!
[03:32] <Slixxor> gorax - the terminal is your friend )
[03:32] <mwe> yure: report a bug then, please
[03:32] <pip> NighT, http://wiki.ubuntu.org.cn/%E6%89%8B%E5%B7%A5%E6%8C%82%E8%BD%BDWindows%E5%88%86%E5%8C%BA just do as what the command tells you to do!
[03:32] <MetaMorfoziS> nice link pip:)
[03:32] <yure> mwe: ok
[03:32] <yure> i am talking about it on gnome already
[03:32] <Gorax> took me about an hour to figure out how to get into the super user mode, Slixxor, and I don't mind using them ;)
[03:33] <pip> MetaMorfoziS, thank you !But why did say that?
[03:33] <mwe> yure: launchpad.net
[03:33] <Slixxor> indeed, because im chinese i understand
[03:33] <Slixxor> lol
[03:33] <ProN00b> is there some ubuntu unstable ?
[03:33] <Slixxor> welcome to buntu
[03:33] <ProN00b> that always gets me the newest stuff
[03:33] <Slixxor> perhaps try sudo passwd -l root
[03:33] <livingdaylight> anyone confirm whether .zip files can be converted and read in Adobe Reader?
[03:33] <Slixxor> disable root password ;)
[03:33] <fyrestrtr> livingdaylight: no, Adobe Reader only reads .pdf files
[03:33] <NighT> Thank you pip
[03:34] <Slixxor> !passwd
[03:34] <ubotu> Slixxor: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:34] <Jimmni> Hey all!
[03:34] <livingdaylight> fyrestrtr: oops, Acrobat Reader then?
[03:34] <Slixxor> ROFL
[03:34] <Slixxor> !info passwd
[03:34] <ubotu> passwd: (change and administer password and group data), section base, is required. Version: 1:4.0.3-37ubuntu7 (breezy), Packaged size: 503 kB, Installed size: 1692 kB
[03:34] <Jimmni> I'm a bit stuck with installing Ubuntu on my Mac
[03:34] <Slixxor> ROFL
[03:34] <Jimmni> I can't get a bootable CD or DVD to burn
[03:34] <mwe> livingdaylight: zip files should be unzipped first
[03:34] <Slixxor> you did get a PPC version>
[03:34] <Jimmni> Yep
[03:34] <livingdaylight> mwe: how, please?
[03:35] <mwe> livingdaylight: unzip foobar.zip
[03:35] <Jimmni> DVD first, then CD
[03:35] <Jimmni> Neither will boot or show up in Startup Disk
[03:35] <mwe> livingdaylight: sudo apt-get install unzip if you don't have unzip
[03:35] <Slixxor> jimmni try mounting those devices
[03:35] <Jimmni> Burned with Toast, then tried Disk Utility
[03:35] <ProN00b> livingdaylight, zip files are packages that can contain anything, not only documents, you should unpack them with unzip or something and see what they contain, then you can open that
[03:36] <pip> NighT, as you see ,you can copy the shellscript onto a file ---autowinfs which is in /usr/sbin/ ,remember the file autowinfs does not exsist at first ,you should create it by yourself.
[03:36] <Slixxor> !mount
[03:36] <ubotu> I guess mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[03:36] <mthakur> leaving
[03:36] <fyrestrtr> livingdaylight: same thing. Unzip the file first.
[03:36] <Slixxor> !h4xor
[03:36] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Slixxor
[03:36] <Slixxor> lol
[03:36] <fyrestrtr> Slixxor: stop messing with the bot.
[03:36] <Slixxor> the bot serves no purpose :P
[03:36] <fyrestrtr> you can /msg the bot if you want to play with it.
[03:37] <Slixxor> no i cant,
[03:37] <arthurgeek> Hello all! I'm having some trouble here.. I'm trying to install buntu 5.10 Server. I have two Ethernet Cards (Encore ENL832-TX-RENT) that uses Realtek 8139 chips. But, Ubuntu don't find these cards. And when i run lspci all i get is: Ethernet controller: Unknown device xxxx:8139 (rev 10).. Anyone here can help me with this? I already tried searchjing google...
[03:37] <Slixxor> im not a registered user
[03:37] <Jimmni> The CDs and DVD mount on the desktop no problem, but don't seem bootable :(
[03:37] <mwe> Slixxor: then register
[03:37] <pip> !ubuntu
[03:37] <ubotu> I heard ubuntu is a free GNU/Linux distribution. More at http://www.ubuntu.com and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarkShuttleworth
[03:37] <livingdaylight> THANX EVERYONE! that's done it
[03:37] <fyrestrtr> arthurgeek: you need to compile the modules into your kernel, or load them.
[03:38] <Slixxor> i accidently stumbled in here and noticed it was a help channel - i seem to be doing the helping rather than getting my own answers :/
[03:38] <fyrestrtr> arthurgeek: realtek 8139 is a very common chipset, its supported in Linux.
[03:38] <joh6nn> Slixxor: what's your question?
[03:38] <fyrestrtr> Slixxor: you haven't filled up your quota yet.
[03:38] <devie> hah, the graphite theme for firefox is awesome, it looks like Safari
[03:38] <devie> now I feel at home
[03:38] <mwe> devie: ppc?
[03:39] <Slixxor> LG LW60 Express - i need t know where to find and install the SND-AZX module for my kernel with he current version of ALSA i have. as debian wont let me roll it back.
[03:39] <devie> mwe: no, x86, but I'm a mac user
[03:39] <Jimmni> Nobody have any idea what I'm doing wrong? :(
[03:39] <Slixxor> 6 months is a decent quota ;)
[03:39] <devie> bought a used PC cheap to setup as an oracle database
[03:40] <Slixxor> but alas for another day. im off to bed, have fun *nixers
[03:40] <scifi> hi there, when i use the ubuntu install cd to create a partition for dual-booting, will i be asked which file-system to format with? (ntfs, ext3 etc)
[03:41] <reiki> is PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable a standard variable? Or is it figured out and/or set up when you ./configure
[03:41] <shreevatsa> ubotu: hello
[03:41] <ubotu> dag
[03:41] <mwe> devie: what graphite theme do you mean? maczilla or what?
[03:41] <shreevatsa> ubotu: hello
[03:41] <joh6nn> scifi: yes
[03:41] <devie> mwe: iFox Graphite
[03:41] <shreevatsa> ubotu: hi
[03:41] <ubotu> guten tag
[03:41] <shreevatsa> ubotu: what's up?
[03:41] <ubotu> everything is okay thanks
[03:41] <joh6nn> you have the option to partition and format however you like
[03:41] <shreevatsa> ubotu: really?
[03:41] <ubotu> yes, shreevatsa
[03:41] <shreevatsa> lol
[03:41] <scifi> john622: which should i use?
[03:42] <joh6nn> scifi: depends, what are you trying to do?
[03:42] <scifi> john6nn*
[03:42] <roryy> reiki: i think it has a default value (probably /usr/lib/pkgconfig)
[03:42] <Slixxor> fyrestrtr, dont insult me :P
[03:42] <roryy> reiki: if you're getting errors, i'd suspect you're missing a -dev package
[03:42] <scifi> john6nn: i just want to create a new partition on my driive to install ubuntu, the rest of the drive is running win xp
[03:42] <Zarephath> Can someone enlighten me on how I would send a man page to be printed out to printer from the term I am in?
[03:43] <reiki> roryy: yeah I have a configure script that tells me I'm missing libraries that I have installed. It also looks for libraries older than some I have installed and I'm not sure how to handle that part
[03:43] <livingdaylight> Please guys, where is clipboard? i copied something in Adobe Reader and it copies it to clipboard, but i don't know where that is and therefore where to recover it? Is it something within Adobe Reader or a package outside of AR?
[03:43] <fyrestrtr> livingdaylight: ctrl+v
[03:43] <Slixxor> hmm
[03:44] <mwe> Zarephath: man man | col -b | lpr
[03:44] <roryy> Zarephath: read 'man man' -- looks like there's a -t option to output postscript
[03:44] <scifi> john6nn: so wud i need to format with ntfs ?
[03:44] <joh6nn> scifi: use ext3 for you linux partition, and then download this for use in windows: http://ext2fsd.sourceforge.net/
[03:44] <roryy> reiki: hmm. you're sure you have the -dev versions of the packages ?
[03:44] <reiki> roryy: I'm trying to fix 3 errors and they all look like this: checking for libgnomeui-2.0 libglade-2.0 gtk+-2.0 gconf-2.0... Package libgnomeui-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path. Perhaps you should add the directory containing `libgnomeui-2.0.pc' to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable
[03:44] <livingdaylight> fyrestrtr: so i've copied it but how do i open clipboard?
[03:44] <shreevatsa> livingdaylight: Just paste it somewhere
[03:45] <fyrestrtr> livingdaylight: why did you copy it? where do you want to paste it?
[03:45] <livingdaylight> gimp
[03:45] <Zarephath> mwe: Thanks...
[03:45] <reiki> roryy: I have libgnome02.0 installed but I don't find a file ending in ".pc" anywhere
[03:45] <shreevatsa> livingdaylight: Go into Gimp, and do Edit->Paste (or something like that)
[03:45] <fyrestrtr> livingdaylight: open gimp -- then edit > paste or whatever it is in there.
[03:45] <scifi> john6nn: thx, what does it do? ^^
[03:45] <roryy> reiki: do you have the package libgnomeui-dev installed ?
[03:46] <livingdaylight> syrestrtr: i want to take an exerpt to put unto Desktp as screen
[03:46] <jenda> Does anyone know the keysym for cursor selection? the thing that happens when you press an arrowkey with shift held down?
[03:46] <joh6nn> scifi: it lets you access ext3 partitions from windows
[03:46] <Zarephath> roryy: That would work, but since I don't have a postscript printer this would require trying to figure out how to get at least two programs I know of working to filter the printer output into a format my printer could use...thanks for the reply though :-)
[03:46] <mwe> Zarephath: or col -p
[03:46] <reiki> roryy: libgnome2-dev is installed
[03:46] <Jolleh> I can't play any MP3 files in ubuntu do I need some kind of plugin?
[03:46] <mwe> Zarephath: I'm not sure ubuntu col supports -t
[03:47] <fyrestrtr> !tell Jolleh about mp3
[03:47] <roryy> reiki: no, libgnomeui-dev -- not the same
[03:47] <arrick> morning everyonr
[03:47] <roryy> reiki: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=libgnomeui-2.0.pc&searchmode=searchfiles&case=insensitive&version=breezy&arch=i386
[03:47] <shreevatsa> livingdaylight: First paste it, then you can do the cutting from within Gimp
[03:47] <Putiikki> Jolleh: what player you use?
[03:47] <scifi> john6nn: that sounds good, but i dont actually want/need to be able to do that, i will just access the ext3 partition within ubuntu
[03:47] <Jolleh> i tryed amarok
[03:47] <mwe> Zarephath: or just col with no switches
[03:47] <Jolleh> and rythmbox
[03:47] <scifi> john6nn: but u recommend i format with ext3?
[03:47] <threeseas> how was the community meeting?
[03:48] <Putiikki> Jolleh: does sounds work?
[03:48] <reiki> roryy: sorry... yes I have libgnomeui-dev installed as well
[03:48] <Jolleh> sounds work yes
[03:48] <Putiikki> hmm
[03:48] <Jolleh> only mp3's don't work
[03:48] <roryy> reiki: then you should have /usr/lib/pkgconfig/libgnomeui-2.0.pc, according to pacakges.ubuntu.com
[03:48] <roryy> reiki: are you running breezy ?
[03:48] <reiki> roryy: nope... dapper
[03:48] <Putiikki> Jolleh: try with xmms
[03:48] <livingdaylight> shreevatsa: unfortunately, i'm not managing that
[03:48] <Jolleh> tryed that too :\
[03:48] <roryy> reiki: ah. that may be the problem, i'm not sure.  Maybe ask in #ubuntu+1
[03:49] <reiki> roryy: oops... and just noticed I'm typing in the wrong window... I hate when I do that
[03:49] <Jimmni> Can anyone help me work out why my Install CD and DVD won't boot? Burned on Mac OS X.
[03:49] <Putiikki> weird :/
[03:49] <shreevatsa> livingdaylight: So maybe acroread doesn't let you copy it...
[03:49] <livingdaylight> shreevatsa: trying to cut or copy and paste in gimp
[03:49] <mwe> Jimmni: is the dvd ok?
[03:49] <joh6nn> scifi: yes, for linux, you want to use ext3
[03:49] <shreevatsa> livingdaylight: Select the text (or image) in acroread, then go to acroread's men and do Edit->Paste. Is that what you did?
[03:49] <scifi> ok ty
[03:49] <livingdaylight> shreevatsa: well it says 'copy to clipboard' ? so i want to assume that it does work ; where is clipboard?
[03:50] <Putiikki> paste it somewhere? :)
[03:50] <shreevatsa> livingdaylight: There are actually (at least) *two* cliboards...
[03:50] <livingdaylight> shreevatsa: no, i right click and click copy
[03:50] <livingdaylight> where?
[03:50] <shreevatsa> livingdaylight: Ok, now in Gaim
[03:50] <shreevatsa> livingdaylight: sorry, Gimp
[03:50] <scifi> i have the install iso cd downloaded, how do i check it with md5summer?
[03:50] <joh6nn> Jolleh: !mp3
[03:50] <shreevatsa> livingdaylight: What happens if you do right-click paste in Gimp?
[03:51] <mwe> livingdaylight: in memory. press middle mouse button to paste or right->paste
[03:51] <Putiikki> !mp3
[03:51] <ubotu> mp3 is probably a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:52] <mwe> scifi: md5sum foo.iso and compare with the md5sum from the download page
[03:52] <gotero> hi
[03:53] <mthakur> ne1 know about XAMPP?
[03:54] <mwe> Zarephath: did it work? maybe man man| col -b| lpr if it didn't work well
[03:54] <tachyon2> mthakur... a guy i work with uses it
[03:54] <livingdaylight> mwe: :s
[03:54] <mthakur> tachyon2, can u tell me how to use it?
[03:54] <scifi> john6nn: sorry john dont understand what this md5sum foo.iso is?
[03:54] <Zarephath> mwe: haven't tried it yet...will shout it out when I do in a couple minutes...
[03:55] <starman> I have tried many different DVD-players for ubuntu but they won't play my dvds. Wht to do?
[03:55] <mwe> Zarephath: col -b is probably best
[03:55] <Zarephath> mwe: K
[03:55] <mthakur> tachyon2, eh?
[03:55] <mwe> scifi: type it in a terminal. md5sum filename.iso
[03:56] <joh6nn> !dvd
[03:56] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[03:56] <mthakur> Hello, can anyone help me out with apache2/lamp/xampp?
[03:56] <mwe> mthakur: did you read the wiki?
[03:56] <scifi> !md5sum ubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso
[03:56] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, scifi
[03:56] <dionisos> is any fucker here ?
[03:57] <mthakur> mwe, wot wiki?
[03:57] <mwe> scifi: um not in the channel :)
[03:57] <shreevatsa> dionisos: No, I guess most here are virgins. Why do you ask?
[03:57] <tachyon2> mthakur- i have only seen him use it a little over his shoulder
[03:57] <mwe> !tell mthakur about lamp
[03:57] <scifi> mwe: terminal? im not running linux at the moment
[03:57] <mwe> mthakur: read /msg from ubotu
[03:57] <TABASCO> hello, I've got the question, how can I change files with a windowscomputer in a network
[03:57] <mwe> scifi: then you need a windows program. hold on a sec
[03:57] <joh6nn> mthakur: you're better off asking in #apache
[03:57] <mthakur> mwe, i know that but i want to know something that is not concerned with installation
[03:58] <mthakur> thanks.
[03:58] <sylvan__> Dammit. System->preferences->sessions is badly broken. It's impossible to delete or change the order of the entries there. Surely this resides in configuration file somewhere that I can edit manually?
[03:58] <scifi> mwe: i have md5summer, but that doesnt check the iso...only the md5 checksum WITHIN the iso
[03:58] <Zarephath> mwe: Working like a charm with man man |col -b|lpr :-)
[03:58] <tachyon2> mthakur- I dont think XAMPP is secure
[03:58] <mwe> scifi: use a wroking program. wait a sec I'll give you a link
[03:59] <mwe> Zarephath: good :)
[03:59] <scifi> mwe: k ty
[03:59] <mwe> scifi: http://downloads.activestate.com/contrib/md5sum/Windows/
[03:59] <mthakur> tachyon2, i know - i have secured it by running /opt/lampp security :)
[04:00] <joh6nn> TABASCO: you're trying to change files on a linux partition from a windows partition?
[04:00] <TABASCO> nope, into a network
[04:00] <scifi> mwe: so just run this md5sum.exe?
[04:00] <joh6nn> no idea, then, sorry.
[04:00] <idP> hi
[04:00] <idP> anyone can understand my problem plz ?
[04:01] <tachyon2> Tabasco- linux supports SMB
[04:01] <reiki> how do I see what the current PKG_CONFIG_PATH variable is set to?
[04:01] <TABASCO> er, another problem. I need to get the old list in /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:01] <sylvan__> anyone know how to edit the "gnome sessions"? The utility doesn't work so I need to find the file
[04:01] <TABASCO> I've changed things in the list, and now it doesnt work any more..
[04:02] <mwe> scifi: put it in c:\programs files. then open a command window and browse to where the iso file is and type md5sum filename.iso
[04:02] <idP> when I point firefox to a hostname,. normally it requests the ip for this hostname from my ISP namse-ervers.. now, shouldnt my macgine cache this info for sometime like few hours or so, so it wont need to do so every time ?
[04:02] <dionisos> is any fucker here ?
[04:02] <MetaMorfoziS> hely
[04:02] <idP> anyone understood my qs ?
[04:02] <mwe> dionisos: language
[04:02] <dionisos> scanning a book page with a flatbed scanner is inconvenient (edges wont be scanned well, book spine is damaged, etc) do you know any good way to scan pages from books ? thanks
[04:02] <Zarephath> mwe: Now to get even slicker...how to write a short bash executable that can take input for the man page I am looking for and ask...so for example if I wanted to print man ls |col -b|lpr...how would I set a variable for "ls"?
[04:02] <scifi> mwe: k thx, will try it
[04:02] <tachyon2> sylvan- I just edited my sessions to install fluxbox
[04:03] <TABASCO> how can I get back the normal aptitude list
[04:03] <idP> ayone ??
[04:03] <roryy> reiki: maybe something like 'pkg-config --list-all' will help ?
[04:03] <Zarephath> mwe: $1?
[04:03] <Zarephath> mwe:%1
[04:03] <mwe> Zarephath: yeah
[04:04] <mwe> Zarephath: ${1}
[04:04] <joh6nn> TABASCO: check to see if there's a file named sources.list~
[04:04] <mwe> Zarephath: or just $1
[04:04] <Zarephath> mwe: kewlness thanks for the help...
[04:04] <joh6nn> if there is, that will hopefully be a backup copy of the original version
[04:04] <joh6nn> if not, you're SOL
[04:05] <dionisos> no one helps me ?
[04:05] <Zarephath> mwe: Is that just a different way to declare...or could you group variables together between braces for different variables that might be called as needed?
[04:05] <TABASCO> there is a file, but one where I've changed some adresses
[04:05] <joh6nn> dionisos: that seems like a question you'll get better results with somewhere else.
[04:06] <tachyon2> dionisos: get a good digital camera and take photos of the pages
[04:06] <mwe> Zarephath: it means the same. it's for avoiding interpretation error
[04:06] <joh6nn> TABASCO: the ~ file has the changes in it too?
[04:06] <TABASCO> yes
[04:06] <fouldsy> dionisus: you're asking this in at least 3 channels, maybe stick to one and listen to the responses you're getting ;-)
[04:07] <fouldsy> *dionisos ^^
[04:07] <joh6nn> TABASCO: then you're SOL as far as restoring goes.  try apt-get update, and hope for the best
[04:07] <TABASCO> I've already tried this, it doesnt works
[04:07] <roryy> TABASCO: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[04:08] <TABASCO> 5.10
[04:08] <roryy> TABASCO: the 'Breezy' link in what ubotu sent you should help
[04:08] <Zarephath> mwe: Ok...
[04:09] <mwe> Zarephath: it should be pretty straight forward to write a script that does what you want
[04:10] <patrick24601> OK. What did I foul up? I just installed Ubuntu and it seems to me that last time I installed I just hopped out to browse the network and saw all of my windows shares on other machines.
[04:10] <patrick24601> Now on this install I cannot see any windows workgroups, domains or shares
[04:11] <scifi> mwe: i get this message:-  "no such file: ubuntu-5.10-install-i386"
[04:11] <KNO3> Hi, when trying to build wine from source using APT, 'apt-get --build source wine' stops with error "checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[04:11] <KNO3> " "Build command 'cd wine-0.9.11~winehq1 && dpkg-buildpackage -b -uc' failed."
[04:11] <TABASCO> ok, thanks
[04:11] <mwe> scifi: type the correct file name
[04:11] <Sn3f3ru> Hi; anyone managed to get Ati Mobility Radeon 9700 (64 Mb) working with an external monitor?
[04:11] <mwe> scifi:  ubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso probably
[04:11] <Zarephath> mwe: I am trying...I have it echo the text then added $1 below then the command man $1 |col -b|lpr...however it doesn't pause to let me input to the variable...sorry I am completely new to this..
[04:11] <roryy> KNO3: install build-essential
[04:12] <joh6nn> patrick24601: never worked with windows shares at all, but i think you need samba installed
[04:12] <roryy> KNO3: i'd guess something like 'apt-get build-dep wine' would also be helpful
[04:12] <KNO3> roryy:  ok, thanks
[04:12] <mwe> Zarephath: oh it's does wait for input
[04:12] <scifi> mwe: sorry yeh, looks like its doing it now
[04:12] <patrick24601> joh6nn - I thought that came by default. hmmm..
[04:12] <Zarephath> mwe: no it doesn't..let me type the script as typed
[04:12] <KNO3> roryy:  yes, i have already done that
[04:12] <mwe> Zarephath: you would call the script like mycoolprintscript.sh ls to print the ls man page
[04:13] <ppangi> sdf
[04:13] <ppangi> hello
[04:13] <Zarephath> mwe: echo Please indicate the man page to print?
[04:13] <Zarephath> $1
[04:13] <joh6nn> patrick24601: wouldn't know, i don't use it.  but it's my best guess for a place to start
[04:13] <roryy> KNO3: I guess build-essential isn't in the build dependencies -- odd.
[04:13] <Zarephath> mwe: then the actual command with the $1 substituted for whatever I input
[04:14] <scifi> mwe: ok the figure it  shows in command prompt matches the md5 figure from the download site , so all is well yeh?
[04:14] <patrick24601> Thanks. marking for installation now.
[04:14] <KNO3> roryy:  build-essential is alrady installed to the newest version
[04:14] <joh6nn> np
[04:15] <Samy> how do i compile selfwritten java sourcecodes?
[04:15] <patrick24601> smb client is alread installed
[04:15] <roryy> KNO3: hmm. And 'gcc -v' outputs something informative ?
[04:15] <roryy> KNO3: in that case I don't know what the error is.  Are you running ubuntu 5.10 (breezy) ?
[04:15] <joh6nn> patrick24601: no idea then.  like i said, i don't use shares at all
[04:16] <KNO3> yes, AMD64
[04:16] <KNO3> roryy:  yes AMD64
[04:16] <mwe> Zarephath: use read foo to get bash to read keyboard input into ${foo}
[04:16] <patrick24601> thanks for piping in at lease :)
[04:16] <patrick24601> Anybody else on here browsing windows shares from ubuntu yet?
[04:17] <Zarephath> mwe: Ok...one other question...you had it saved as .sh what is this? I just did #!/bin/bash....I guess you are using python or perl?
[04:17] <LadyRoot> patrick24601, read about LISA daemon
[04:17] <KNO3> patrick24601, nop, havew been trying but failing
[04:17] <scifi> mwe: so im ok to go ahead and burn?
[04:17] <roryy> KNO3: hmm. there seems to be no binary packages for wine on amd64 -- perhaps it can't be built there ? see http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=wine&searchon=names&subword=1&version=breezy&release=all
[04:17] <Samy> my wine version does not work correctly
[04:18] <captine> patrick24601, nope.  can't even get ubuntu to work
[04:18] <mwe> Zarephath: no. you don't need to name it .sh
[04:18] <mwe> Zarephath: chmod +x it though
[04:18] <captine> let alone browse shares
[04:18] <gharz> hi...
[04:18] <gharz> i'm a newbie and i'm about to install java...
[04:19] <gharz> i need to use the "su" command but it's asking for the admin password...
[04:19] <mwe> captine: I hear nautilus is broken for listing windows shares
[04:19] <gharz> may i know what the default admin password for ubuntu breezy please????
[04:19] <KNO3> roryy:  wine has only had time to provide i386 versions
[04:19] <mennn> hello im doing apt-get update but don't know what it will do?
[04:19] <scifi> burning now :P
[04:19] <mwe> scifi: did the sums match?
[04:19] <Zarephath> mwe: Ok...I am guessing adding the .sh to the end just tells the person that it is a shell script executable?
[04:20] <scifi> mwe: yeh it seems so
[04:20] <mennn> hello im doing apt-get update but don't know what it will do?
[04:20] <mwe> Zarephath: yeah
[04:20] <roryy> !tell gharz about root
[04:20] <mwe> Zarephath: just convention
[04:20] <roryy> !tell mennn about apt
[04:20] <scifi> mwe: i just checked it with the one from the ubuntu download site
[04:20] <Zarephath> menn: I will update your repositories in sources.list
[04:20] <fuji> How do i safe a file in Konsole which i altered?
[04:20] <LIT3> hi
[04:20] <Zarephath> *It
[04:20] <captine> mwe, i can't get into X, can't set up dial up to be able to d/l ati drivers, can't set up wifi due to lack of internet connection in ubuntu
[04:20] <mwe> Zarephath: linux doesn't care about extensions though some file managers associate programs with extensions
[04:21] <roryy> mennn: 'apt-get update' just updates the database of ubuntu packages; 'apt-get upgrade' upgrades packages
[04:21] <KNO3> roryy:  yes, all the packages listed there are i386, apart from the libaries
[04:21] <captine> mwe, copmaq notebook is making life difficult, as well as south african internet availability
[04:21] <Zarephath> mwe: Kewl...I am really starting to get into this...so much to learn..so little time..heh
[04:21] <mwe> scifi: go ahead and burn it then. at low speed to avoid errors
[04:21] <mennn> roryy thanks
[04:21] <mwe> captine: oh
[04:21] <roryy> KNO3: well, my point is, if canonical/ubuntu can't build it, maybe it can't be done
[04:21] <scifi> mwe: check the figures 5 times now to make sure, burning @ 8x
[04:22] <captine> mwe hw do i install ndiswrapper without using apt-get?
[04:22] <pyrolx> Can anyone here help me?
[04:22] <roryy> KNO3: maybe it's possible to do a 32-bit chroot thing, but that is beyond my knowledge
[04:22] <mwe> scifi: yeah. you can md5sum the burned cd as well. I'm not sure how to do it in windows though
[04:22] <shreevatsa> !ask
[04:22] <ubotu> Just ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model, outputs of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl is important.
[04:22] <KNO3> roryy:  yes, i thake your point, do you think that i meight just be better off instaling the i386 build provided
[04:23] <mwe> captine: well if you have the .deb sudo dpkg -i
[04:23] <shreevatsa> pyrolx: I'm sure lots of people can help; just ask
[04:23] <roryy> KNO3: if you know how to do that, sure. I don't ;) sorry.
[04:23] <pyrolx> My monitor is messed up and dislplaying 640*480 resolution when it should be 1024*768.... it won't let ne change... brand new inbstall... please reply via PM as it's hard top read atm
[04:23] <any> Hi
[04:23] <shreevatsa> !fixres
[04:23] <ubotu> somebody said fixres was Please read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:23] <scifi> mwe: thnks for the help, when ive done the partition and rebooted, if i boot up into windows i guess it will detect the size of the partition for windows has changed?
[04:23] <captine> cool.  I have the .deb.  do u know if the ATI drivers have a .deb file somewhere.  Cannot find it on ftp://archive.ubuntu.com
[04:24] <any> Is there a way to list all the installed packages by size ?
[04:24] <shreevatsa> pyrolx: got that?
[04:24] <KNO3> roryy:  ok, thanks for the help
[04:24] <mwe> scifi: yeah
[04:24] <sorush20> hi what package do I need to install to be able to run Ir-DA , usb on ubuntu?
[04:24] <mwe> captine: I think so.
[04:24] <pyrolx> got the link
[04:24] <maddog39> hello
[04:24] <mwe> captine: look for fglrx
[04:24] <scifi> mwe: will it just run sfc or something?
[04:24] <MetaMorfoziS> sorush20: find out in packagemanager
[04:24] <MetaMorfoziS> sorush20: iirc ir-apps
[04:25] <captine> mwe thanks, will do
[04:25] <mwe> scifi: huh?
[04:25] <joh6nn> patrick24601: you get it figured out yet? gaim crashed on me...
[04:25] <any> any idea ?
[04:25] <MetaMorfoziS> sorush20: irda-tools
[04:25] <MetaMorfoziS> or sg
[04:25] <scifi> mwe: i guess it will run systen file checker before continuing to boot?
[04:25] <scifi> system*
[04:26] <sorush20> MetaMorfoziS: thanks/
[04:26] <mwe> scifi: just installing ubuntu and rebooting to either windows or ubuntu should work
[04:26] <MetaMorfoziS> and if you has it, you may: irattach /dev/ttyUSBX -d device
[04:27] <scifi> mwe: k thx
[04:27] <fredl> Hi, anybody have a problem with gnome-terminal in Dapper?
[04:28] <eggzeck> fred1, #Ubuntu+1
[04:28] <fredl> My problem is that the cursor is real freaky, it jumps back and forth to the beginning of the line when I type
[04:28] <fredl> 'k thanks eggzeck
[04:28] <shreevatsa> fredl: Or you can just use xterm :)
[04:29] <mwe> or a deacent one like rxvt
[04:29] <shreevatsa> mwe: Is wterm the same as rxvt?
[04:30] <mwe> shreevatsa: I think not
[04:30] <fredl> shreevasta - well there's other alternatives obviously.
[04:30] <fredl> shreevasta - However, it could be a general GNOME issue
[04:30] <mwe> shreevatsa: I don't know if wterm support utf-8
[04:31] <shreevatsa> mwe: what about aterm? How would you order xterm,wterm,rxvt,aterm,gnome-terminal,konsole?
[04:31] <mwe> shreevatsa: My favorite is rxvt. aterm is cool but doesn't support unicode
[04:32] <speedie> ok, how do I setup linux to accept incoming ssh requests?
[04:32] <mwe> shreevatsa: I think gnome-terminal and konsole blows. but that's just me
[04:32] <jenda> How can I assing a key to a command?
[04:32] <fredl> shreevasta - don't forget Eterm!
[04:32] <CokeNCode> mwe, care to expand on that statement?
[04:32] <pip> Hello!
[04:32] <shreevatsa> speedie: Installing openssh is probably enough
[04:33] <Zarephath> Someone look at this poorly written bash script and help me understand what I don't have correct to let it work? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12314
[04:33] <joh6nn> mwe: what's your beef with konsole?
[04:33] <mwe> CokeNCode: I don't like gnome-terminal and konsole :) I think they're bloated and slow. try ls /usr/lib in gnome-terminal then in urxvt
[04:33] <jack-> heya
[04:33] <speedie> shreevatsa, how do I search for packages using apt-get?
[04:34] <joh6nn> speedie: apt-cache search
[04:34] <mwe> joh6nn: I think it's bloated and slow. but like I said that's just me. lots of people love gnome-terminal and konsole
[04:34] <speedie> joh6nn, thanks
[04:34] <joh6nn> np
[04:34] <shreevatsa> speedie: "sudo apt-get install openssh" set up ssh for me (IIRC)
[04:34] <zido> what's the wine package called? i can't find it in synaptic, only "xwine", and when i try to use it i only get an error that wine isn't installed :)
[04:34] <jack-> i'm desperately trying to find the source .deb for adept (the kubuntu package manager)
[04:34] <jack-> but i cant find it..any hints very welcome
[04:34] <fredl> it's extremely low impact, I'd have a ton of them open all the time. And then fluxbox which also uses very little memory
[04:34] <CokeNCode> mwe, it's not like you don't have the option of a alt cntrl f1 if you need to something intensive
[04:34] <Zarephath> jack: You sure you have the correct repository enabled?
[04:35] <joh6nn> mwe: i've never tried anything else, so i can't speak to speed, but about do you think is bloated? it hasn't got all that many features?
[04:35] <speedie> shreevatsa, it can't find that package, it's looking for -client or -server at the end
[04:35] <mwe> CokeNCode: um I like to run a windows manager
[04:35] <shreevatsa> speedie: Oh, then install both, I guess :)
[04:35] <jack-> Zarephath: thats what i'm searching for :) not using ubuntu atm, i'm on mac..i want to port the thing
[04:35] <speedie> shreevatsa, nah, I just need the server on my linux box, and the client on my Mac :)
[04:35] <CokeNCode> CokeNCode, ok, well, I can't argue with that. But console is still there when you need it. ;)
[04:36] <shreevatsa> speedie: Sure? Sometimes you might want to copy files in the other direction, etc... Besides, I even ssh to my own machine sometimes :)
[04:36] <joh6nn> jack: packages.ubuntu.com
[04:36] <scifi> mwe: ok im burnt, was thinking of making the ubuntu partition 80gig, sound reasonable?
[04:36] <Zarephath> jack: Ok...sorry don't know about where to get the .deb..ask in #ubuntu+1 some of the developers hang out in there..they would know I presume
[04:36] <joh6nn> scifi: no
[04:36] <jack-> ok, thx
[04:36] <speedie> shreevatsa, I guess it wouldn't hurt, but the linux machine is a dedicated oracle server - I just want to be able to ssh in and get to mysql
[04:37] <speedie> aaack
[04:37] <speedie> did I say mysql?
[04:37] <speedie> the oracle gods would crucify me
[04:37] <speedie> I meant sqlplus
[04:37] <joh6nn> scifi: make your ubuntu partition 5 gigs, then make a separate partition for your home directory
[04:37] <mwe> joh6nn: I think 29mb for a terminal is too much for my taste
[04:37] <ubuntu> how do i do to listen to netradio? on ubuntu!
[04:38] <CokeNCode> why is Nicotine so darn buggy and slow
[04:38] <ubuntu> how do i do to listen to netradio? on ubuntu!
[04:38] <CokeNCode> Soulseek is open source, and a great foundation to build from
[04:38] <Jimmni> Anyone have any idea why I can't burn a bootable copy of Ubuntu in OS X?
[04:38] <Zarephath> !tell ubuntu about restricted
[04:38] <joh6nn> mwe: ok, so you're not talking about feature creep so much as you're saying that the binary you end up with is a little big for the features you get?
[04:38] <scifi> john6nn: o right....so do i do the 1st partition, format it, boot up ubuntu, then use gpart to create the home directory partition or do i make both partitions when installing ubuntu?
[04:39] <joh6nn> Jimmni: what are you using to burn the ISO?
[04:39] <jack-> found it, yay
[04:39] <joh6nn> scifi: i'd make both partitions during install; it's easier
[04:39] <Zarephath> Jimmni: How are you trying to burn it? I just used disk utility to burn the iso
[04:39] <schtinky> ffmpeg says /dev/video0 isn't there, but it is. I don't get it. --  http://pastebin.com/661502
[04:39] <RoxQi3xTG> how do i reinstall grub into MBR sonce i was a jackass and overwrote it?
[04:39] <joh6nn> jack-: ; D
[04:39] <jack-> hope i can port that one..its cute
[04:39] <mwe> joh6nn: something like that. I guess I'm kinda old school. I'm not saying it's stupid to use konsole though. just that I don't prefer it
[04:39] <jack-> better than kpackage/synaptic ;)
[04:39] <zido> is there a apt package for wine?
[04:39] <Zarephath> RoX
[04:39] <RoxQi3xTG> yup?
[04:40] <mwe> zido: sudo apt-get install wine
[04:40] <Zarephath> grub install?
[04:40] <scifi> john6nn/mwe: ok here goes, wish me luck ^^
[04:40] <mwe> zido: enable !universe though
[04:40] <RoxQi3xTG> well, yeah, the Acronis can handle it
[04:40] <joh6nn> mwe: no, totally get your meaning.  i've just never bothered looking at anything else 'cause i've been happy with Konsole.  now that you bring it up, though, i might start shopping around
[04:40] <zido> mwe: can't find the package (yes, i've un-commented the universe packages)
[04:41] <simonpca> bonjour!
[04:41] <mwe> zido: maybe you need to sudo apt-get update first
[04:41] <joh6nn> mwe: back on windows, i used to use coolplayer for my music, and miranda for my IMs, 'cause i could fit the both of them on a floppy, and still have room left for my homework
[04:41] <simonpca> hi!
[04:41] <MetaMorfoziS> !uml
[04:41] <ubotu> MetaMorfoziS: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:41] <CokeNCode> how do you do an installation with wine ?
[04:41] <CokeNCode> does it work ?
[04:41] <juri__> hello
[04:41] <zido> mwe: all done
[04:41] <gnomefreak> CokeNCode: you dont install anything with wine you run it with wine
[04:41] <mwe> zido: can you paste your sources.list to pastebin.com?
[04:41] <joh6nn> CokeNCode: you run the installer exe with wine.  i recommend doing it from terminal
[04:41] <gnomefreak> CokeNCode: you would do something like "wine file.exe
[04:41] <CokeNCode> gnomefreak, i just ran the soulseek installation file with wine
[04:41] <zido> ofc, sec
[04:42] <CokeNCode> gnomefreak, yeh, i just did that, but soulseek kept trying to install in windows like directories
[04:42] <gnomefreak> wine installs exe files? i thought it just ran them
[04:42] <CokeNCode> like my documents :S
[04:42] <RoxQi3xTG> isnt there as simple way to reinstall grub into MBR?
[04:42] <mwe> RoxQi3xTG: yes. read !grub
[04:43] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell RoxQi3xTG about grub
[04:43] <joh6nn> RoxQi3xTG: the simplest way that i know of is to do it from the install CD.  you can do it from a terminal while you're booted into linux, but i've never been comfortable with that
[04:43] <ProN00b> i wonder what kind of people use soulseek
[04:43] <ProN00b> i mean its utter bullshit
[04:43] <joh6nn> ProN00b: 1) watch your language.  2) why don't you ask him?
[04:43] <CokeNCode> i think i'll access my windows drive, and try to copy the soulseek folder
[04:44] <zido> mwe: http://pastebin.com/661511
[04:44] <ProN00b> joh6nn, i was intending to get a answer this way
[04:44] <gnomefreak> ProN00b: join #ubuntu-offtopic to talk about that please
[04:45] <ProN00b> lol, ya right, gnomefreak
[04:45] <CokeNCode> hmmm, why won't it let me copy the folder ...
[04:45] <CokeNCode> this is weird
[04:45] <maddog39> err my ubuntu is screwed, i started up ET and now the resolution wont go back :S
[04:45] <philstar> how can I mount a squashfs like found on ubuntu live cds?
[04:45] <WarOfAttrition> anyone know if there is a way to force a resolution-changing fullscreen app to run at 60hz refresh rate?
[04:45] <mwe> zido: I'd comment line one with the cd and remove the no. part for your mirrors. using archive.ubuntu.com directs you to a good mirror
[04:45] <joh6nn> CokeNCode: try doing it with sudo
[04:45] <zido> hmm
[04:46] <nazeer2cul> Hello all
[04:46] <zido> sure, i'll try it
[04:46] <nazeer2cul> I am a big Fan of UBUNTU
[04:46] <joh6nn> philstar: man mount
[04:46] <CokeNCode> what's with ubuntu, and not letting you log into the gui as root :@
[04:46] <philstar> joh6nn: doesn't match squashfs
[04:46] <CokeNCode> that is lame !
[04:46] <nazeer2cul> Is UBUNTU 5.10 Compatible with EM64T Technology Intel 64 Bit PC?
[04:46] <WarOfAttrition> hey I dont remember your name, but your instructions worked, thanks!
[04:46] <CokeNCode> Is there any way to get around that?
[04:46] <mwe> CokeNCode: it's not lame
[04:46] <mwe> CokeNCode: logging into to X as root is lame
[04:46] <CokeNCode> CokeNCode, how is it not lame  ?
[04:46] <CokeNCode> I should be able to do whatever I want
[04:47] <gnomefreak> its dangerous
[04:47] <ProN00b> CokeNCode, what you really should try is a Linux Soulseek client you can find some in the see also section of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soulseek
[04:47] <CokeNCode> ProN00b, yeh, i'm running Nicotine, but i don't like it
[04:47] <CokeNCode> plus, i wanted to experiment with wine
[04:47] <mwe> CokeNCode: then enable it and take your chances. read !rootsudo
[04:47] <joh6nn> philstar: heh.  you're right.  no idea, then.  try searching the drive for the squashfs utils
[04:47] <CokeNCode> !rootsudo
[04:47] <ubotu> root is, like, Direct logging as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[04:47] <CokeNCode> was that a trigger?
[04:48] <gnomefreak> CokeNCode: whats wrong with gksudo app?
[04:48] <CokeNCode> oh, here we go ...
[04:48] <Billy> Hello, i need help. I have a wireless card built into my laptop. I am currently running on a live cd. Is there anyway i can set up a wireless network connection?
[04:48] <WarOfAttrition> so is it at all possible to do this? To force a fullscreen game to load at a lower refresh rate than the highest available?
[04:48] <mwe> CokeNCode: go to the wiki page. it's disabled for good reasons though
[04:48] <ProN00b> CokeNCode, whats wrong with PySoulseek or Nicotine ?
[04:48] <CokeNCode> Nicotine is really slow
[04:48] <zido> mwe: i get an error that it's not avalible, but another package is pointing to it, so it can be that the package is missing, out of date or just avalible from another source
[04:48] <Kupuntu> Billy: What is your laptop model
[04:48] <schtinky> ffmpeg says /dev/video0 isn't there, but it is. I don't get it. --  http://pastebin.com/661502
[04:49] <Billy> Im using a Dell Inspiron 1150
[04:49] <nazeer2cul> Is UBUNTU 5.10 Compatible with EM64T Technology Intel 64 Bit PC?
[04:49] <ProN00b> CokeNCode, whats slow, the download or the interface ?
[04:49] <CokeNCode> the interface
[04:49] <mwe> zido: odd. you sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get install wine and it says not available?
[04:49] <zido> yes
[04:49] <philstar> joh6nn: found it, thanks: http://www.artemio.net/projects/linuxdoc/squashfs/SquashFS-HOWTO.html
[04:49] <joh6nn> ; D
[04:49] <ProN00b> CokeNCode, you might also throw an eye on http://museek.thegraveyard.org/
[04:49] <zido> and now i'm going to archive.ubuntu.com (not no.archive.ubuntu.com)
[04:49] <jmoncayo> hey is there any command so i can know my battery status on a console?
[04:49] <MetaMorfoziS> !user-mode-linux
[04:49] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, MetaMorfoziS
[04:49] <CokeNCode> what command do i type to get the gnome file browser to run at the command line?
[04:49] <mwe> zido: weird
[04:50] <MetaMorfoziS> anybody know about?
[04:50] <CokeNCode> ProN00b, ok, thanks
[04:50] <ProN00b> CokeNCode, nautilus is the command for the file bwowser
[04:50] <joh6nn> jmoncayo: none that i know of, but i ca give you a python script that does it if you'd like
[04:50] <jmoncayo> joh6nn, ok thanks so much dudde
[04:51] <jack-> could someone plz do a "dkpg -S libtagcoll.pc" for me?
[04:51] <zido> mwe: yeah, i would think they'd have wine in apt :(
[04:51] <jack-> preferably on a dapper..
[04:51] <mwe> zido: it's there
[04:51] <roryy> jack-: packages.ubuntu.com can search inside packages
[04:51] <jack-> oh
[04:51] <CokeNCode> oh, cool, thakns ProN00b. How do you figure those out btw ? Coz i never would've guessed that ?
[04:51] <jack-> great, thx
[04:51] <roryy> jack-: and see #ubuntu+1 for dapper
[04:51] <mwe> zido: i installed it
[04:51] <zido> mwe: where :)
[04:52] <rouslan> any ikvm users here?
[04:52] <eggzeck> jmoncayo, apt-cache search battery
[04:52] <mwe> zido: I just enabled universe and typed sudo apt-get install wine
[04:52] <zido> then you must have some extra sources, because it's not here..
[04:52] <eggzeck> jmoncayo, you should find it, I did
[04:52] <joh6nn> jmoncayo: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12315
[04:52] <jmoncayo> eggzeck, ok  let me try
[04:52] <nazeer2cul> IS UBUNTU 5.10 Cool?
[04:52] <ProN00b> CokeNCode, google for the soulseek stuff ? (also if you klick help/about in the file browser you see that its name is nautilus)
[04:52] <CokeNCode> ProN00b, I'm guessing museeq doesn't have a debian package
[04:52] <mwe> jack-: libtagcoll-dev: usr/lib/pkgconfig/libtagcoll.pc
[04:52] <CokeNCode> ok thanks
[04:53] <ProN00b> CokeNCode, it seems to be new, it is advertised on the nikotine page
[04:53] <jack-> thx :)
[04:53] <jmoncayo> joh6nn, ok thanks a lot
[04:53] <ProN00b> but tbh, soulseek is rly sh*at
[04:53] <ProN00b> why do you use it ?
[04:53] <joh6nn> np
[04:53] <jack-> the package contents search doesnt cover dapper yet, sigh
[04:54] <CokeNCode> ProN00b, I like the chat :$
[04:54] <rudiz> iam in dapper...how to upgrade FF to 1.5.2?
[04:54] <Billy> Kupuntu: Im using a Dell Inspiron 1150
[04:54] <captine> mwe, can't find fglrx on site.  gonna have to resort to google. :).  I hate being connected at 29 kbps
[04:54] <zido> mwe: i can find xwine, but it doesn't really work without wine itself :)
[04:54] <jsmidt> I am trying to reconfigure X.  I ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but have know Idea what parameters to put where
[04:54] <mwe> rudiz: read !firefox1.5 it should be the same for dapper
[04:54] <gnomefreak> jack-: for what?
[04:54] <jsmidt> My stuff is Widescreen XGA with Trubright Technologhy. Graphics Media Accelerator 950 and 8MB-128MB dynamically allocated shared graphics memory.
[04:54] <ProN00b> CokeNCode, try irc ^___^
[04:54] <gnomefreak> mwe: why would you need to dapper comes with ff1.5
[04:55] <mwe> jack-: I told you where the file is
[04:55] <mwe> jack-: libtagcoll-dev: usr/lib/pkgconfig/libtagcoll.pc
[04:55] <xordali> whitch version of ubuntu better to use ?
[04:55] <jmoncayo> joh6nn, should i save the file as   .py?
[04:55] <jack-> on an ubuntu system, yeah :)
[04:55] <gnomefreak> xordali: breezy
[04:55] <mwe> gnomefreak: not 1.5.2
[04:55] <xordali> tnx
[04:55] <jack-> i need to get libtagcoll-dev as source now somehow
[04:55] <mwe> gnomefreak: not here at least
[04:55] <CokeNCode> ProN00b, yeh, but on soulseek, i get to be the expert. I 0wnd! a guy in there the other day, who was talking crap he had no clue about. On here, i'm the guy with no clue
[04:55] <gnomefreak> mwe: hold on a sec
[04:55] <eggzeck> jmoncayo, did you try apt-cache search battery? ;)
[04:55] <jack-> gnomefreak: i'm trying to "port" adept for kde/darwin
[04:55] <joh6nn> jmoncayo: you don't have to, but it doesn't hurt.  you just have to be sure to chmod +x, is all
[04:56] <mwe> gnomefreak: it's 1.5.0.1 here
[04:56] <jack-> since kpackage sucks and synaptic isnt exactly stable ;)
[04:56] <nordle> Hi, as a rough guide, is it ok to install daper flight 6 with a view to update to the released version in June.  I ask because its going on a P2-266 and I'd rather not do it more than once :)
[04:56] <eggzeck> jmoncayo, package: xbattbar
[04:56] <PuMpErNiCkLe> jsmidt: For most stuff, it should auto-detect.  For the screen parameters, go with the 'medium' option and select which refresh rates and geometry work best.  For the vid card, just tell it to use 128, and it should allocate as necessary.
[04:56] <spoon> xmms has frozen on my ubuntu box. is there a way to close a crashed program? I'm downloading some torrents, so i don't want to reboot. everything is running exept a frozen xmms.
[04:56] <Seveas> nordle, wait for beta 1, to be released in 5 days
[04:56] <jmoncayo> eggzeck, yea man thanks a lot, do you know if one of those is for console?
[04:57] <mwe> spoon: sudo killall -9 xmms in a terminal
[04:57] <spoon> ok
[04:57] <ProN00b> lol, CokeNCode
[04:57] <jmoncayo> joh6nn, the .py extension is for phyton right?
[04:57] <Billy> Hello, i need help. I have a wireless card built into my laptop. I am currently running on a live cd. Is there anyway i can set up a wireless network connection?
[04:57] <Seveas> jmoncayo, yup
[04:57] <nordle> Seveas: OK, thanks, if this machine wasn't so slow I wouldn't mind normally. Thanks for the info.
[04:57] <gnomefreak> mwe: some reason im thinking that 1.5.01 will end up being 1.5.02and so on
[04:57] <Gorax> does anybody know if the Linux gcc compiler has any built-in define macros that distinguish it from other OS's compilers?
[04:57] <Seveas> nordle, are you going to try xubuntu?
[04:57] <Seveas> Billy, which chipset?
[04:57] <spoon> cool thanks mwe that worked!
[04:57] <gnomefreak> i wouldnt thing you would need to install it seeing that its just and updated package not like 1.6
[04:58] <jmoncayo> if i want the syntax on for vi i need to saye a file called .vimrc or .virc?
[04:58] <eggzeck> jmoncayo, yes the one I mentioned
[04:58] <gnomefreak> s/thing/think
[04:58] <Seveas> Gorax, #ifdef __gcc__ / #ifdef __linux__
[04:58] <joh6nn> jmoncayo: yes, but linux will figure out what's going on even without the extension
[04:58] <eggzeck> jmoncayo, xbattbar
[04:58] <kynix> has anyone here been able to get ATI drivers working on a x800 card?
[04:58] <Gorax> thanks Seveas
[04:58] <mwe> jmoncayo: ~/.vimrc. syntax on
[04:58] <nordle> Seveas: I've used kbunutu, but have not even looked at xubuntu, but I will now as I've no idea what variation it is.
[04:58] <jmoncayo> ok thanks a lot
[04:58] <Seveas> nordle, xubuntu is ubuntu with xfce, a more lightweight desktop ideal for your older machine
[04:59] <Billy> Sevas, I dont know i cant find it unless im on Windows which im not right now.
[04:59] <DoctorDyna> kynix: i have a x1600 so if anybody knows, id like to know too
[04:59] <mwe> kynix: yeah
[04:59] <jmoncayo> eggzeck, do you know how can i use it?
[04:59] <Seveas> Billy, try the command lspci in a terminal (system  accessories  terminal)
[04:59] <jmoncayo> i just downloaded
[05:00] <eggzeck> jmoncayo, once you install use 'man': 'man programname'
[05:00] <eggzeck> jmoncayo, I hope you did an apt-get install :)
[05:00] <jmoncayo> eggzeck, there is no xbattbar or battbar i dont know how did it get save it
[05:00] <Billy> Sevas: Ok i did that but what should i be looking for. I think i found it.
[05:00] <nordle> Seveas: I should have guessed that really :) Thanks for the heads-up, I'll check it out now to see about downloading the beta in 5 days, if there is one, if not then the last release, cheers.
[05:00] <jmoncayo> eggzeck, yes i did
[05:01] <Seveas> Billy, paste the complete output on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[05:02] <Eftarjin> it seems Nautilus stores a piece of information in a file to know if ot's already running. Where is this file ?
[05:02] <captine> anyone know where the .deb ati drivers can be downloaded from to install on ubuntu?  cannot use apt-get when in ubuntu (no internet connection)
[05:02] <jmoncayo> eggzeck, do you know with what name it gets installed
[05:03] <mwe> captine: xorg-driver-fglrx I think.
[05:03] <eggzeck> jmoncayo, should be the same name as progname, but I've never used it before.
[05:03] <Eftarjin> captine: http://packages.ubuntu.com/ maybe
[05:03] <Billy> Sevas: Ok I just did that.
[05:03] <jmoncayo> eggzeck, well it is not and i dont know how it should be named
[05:04] <phycho> hey guys
[05:04] <captine> mwe thanks
[05:04] <phycho> anyone know where i can find a ubuntu mirror with source to use with debootstrap?
[05:04] <captine> Eftarjin, cool.
[05:05] <phycho> aka i dont want ubuntu iso
[05:05] <ruphin> Hey folks!
[05:05] <mwe> captine: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/restricted/l/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12/
[05:05] <ruphin> any one knows how to get ubuntu to work with wireless
[05:05] <jmoncayo> joh6nn, hey buddy do i need to change the hours in the script for my battery?
[05:05] <mwe> !wifi
[05:05] <ubotu> it has been said that wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[05:05] <captine> mwe, thanks a mil.  really appreciate it
[05:05] <simonpca> !tell ruphin about wifi
[05:06] <nazeer2cul> captine, have u tested Ubuntu 5.10?
[05:06] <nazeer2cul> Is it cool
[05:06] <ruphin> i have a dlink wireless on my laptop
[05:06] <speedie> woohoo
[05:06] <speedie> this is fun
[05:06] <ruphin> ubutu does detect it but for some reason it cannot connect
[05:06] <nazeer2cul> Hi speedie
[05:06] <mwe> ruphin: read the wiki ubotu pointed to
[05:07] <captine> nazeer2cul, am a major newbie.  just installed it on compaq presario.  trying to set up X and wifi still.
[05:07] <speedie> I'm using xchat over VNC
[05:07] <ruphin> thanks mwe for ur info, i'll try that
[05:07] <scifi> hi johnnn/mwe: i am on my other pc, installing ubuntu on my other machine...i have got to the partitioning stage, and i cant make a 5gig partition because its says its too small :P
[05:08] <mwe> scifi: well 5GB is probably to small
[05:08] <nazeer2cul> oh ok captine. I am sure its pretty easy to setup the Wifi, Feel free to ask any doubts
[05:08] <scifi> mwe: johnnn recommend 5gig partition for ubuntu system, then another partition for home directory
[05:08] <nazeer2cul> Try to resize the partition SCIFI .. so that You can install it easily
[05:08] <simonpca> !tell ruphin about wireless
[05:09] <mwe> scifi: I'd go with just one partition and a swap partition
[05:09] <captine> nazeer2cul, as ar as i know, i have to install ndiswrapper.  still gotto do that.  problem is, i don't have internet connection at home.  need wifi set up before monday, so that i can d/l from the airport
[05:09] <jmoncayo> joh6nn, you there? do i need to change something in the script or its good how it is right now?
[05:09] <scifi> mwe: do i crate the swap partition after the main partition?
[05:09] <nazeer2cul> oh i see.
[05:10] <scifi> create*
[05:10] <mwe> scifi: it doesn't matter which you make first
[05:11] <captine> mwe, any idea which file i need.  guess it's the 13 meg one.  will take 2 hours to d/l on my current connection.  major slow
[05:11] <Billy> Seveas: Did you see the output???
[05:11] <scifi> mwe: its saying the minimum it can be is 51gig (20% of the 250gig drive) lol ^^
[05:11] <nazeer2cul> are u using Yum Update? Captine.
[05:12] <phycho> whats the latest version of ubuntu? is it hoary or warty?
[05:12] <scifi> mwe: which is fine, but will i be able to make a 2nd partition after creating this one?
[05:12] <Seveas> Billy, urgh, broadcom card...
[05:12] <Seveas> Billy, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetupNdiswrapper
[05:12] <captine> nazeer2cul, i'm in windows at the moment.  don't have internet connection through ubuntu (modem not detected)
[05:12] <Seveas> Billy, or actually: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[05:13] <captine> nazeer2cul, trying to d/l the .deb files
[05:13] <red-bull> hi
[05:13] <scifi> mwe: so make 1st partition 52gig, then a swap partition 50gig?
[05:13] <Billy> Seveas: Thanks a lot :)
[05:13] <mwe> scifi: captine I think it's 7.9 GB
[05:13] <mwe> scifi: nono
[05:13] <mwe> scifi: thats way to much swap
[05:14] <jetscreamer> 50 gigs is way too much for swap
[05:14] <nazeer2cul> oh
[05:14] <mwe> captine I think it's 7.9 MB
[05:14] <scifi> mwe: but it wont let me make a partition smaller than 52gigs
[05:14] <mwe> scifi: 1 GB of swap or so
[05:14] <jetscreamer> if you don't do modeling or some other memory intensive thing go low on swap
[05:14] <mwe> scifi: it should :)
[05:14] <captine> mwe, thanks
[05:14] <mwe> captine: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/restricted/l/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12/xorg-driver-fglrx_6.8.0-8.16.20-0ubuntu16.1_i386.deb
[05:15] <mwe> captine: I think
[05:15] <bradley_> hello everyone!
[05:15] <bradley_> can anyone recommend a good cd burning software for ubuntu?
[05:15] <scifi> knew this wud go wrong for me :x
[05:15] <blindx> k3b
[05:15] <gnomefreak> bradley_: k3b or gnomebaker
[05:15] <bradley_> gnomefreak: thank you!
[05:16] <mwe> scifi: it's not saying MEGA byte?
[05:16] <yaiba> hello
[05:16] <tombs> hi all
[05:16] <shreevatsa> gnomefreak: does your name mean that you like gnome or hate it?
[05:16] <blindx> lol...
[05:16] <Apostle^> loves it im sure..
[05:16] <gnomefreak> bradley_: your welcome
[05:16] <captine> mwe, thats what i'm getting, but the 64 bit one.  Thanks again for all the help locating it :)
[05:17] <scifi> mwe: no defo GB
[05:17] <yaiba> is there somebody can help me? i have a little probleme , i can't understand ?
[05:17] <blindx> Can you burn VCDs with gnomebaker?
[05:17] <gnomefreak> i like gnome xfce flux black enlightenment
[05:17] <mwe> captine: oh. you are aware that 32bit ubuntu might save you some trouble even on a 64bit pc?
[05:17] <captine> gnomefreak, what about a decent dvd ripper?
[05:17] <shreevatsa> gnomefreak: In that order? Or in reverse?
[05:17] <joh6nn> jmoncayo: sorry, stepped out for a second.  you don't need to change the script
[05:17] <crowbar> Hey, I'm running Gnome on dapper and i set the taskbar panel which is at the bottom by default to Top.  It sits at the top just below the Applications panel, but when I reboot the computer and log back in the taskbar is above the applications panel and I have to set the taskbar to bottom and then top again to get it where i want it.  Any suggestions on how to make it stay?
[05:17] <jmoncayo> joh6nn, it works for any battery
[05:18] <mwe> captine: like dvds skipping and multimedia only half-working
[05:18] <eugman> Yaiba, All the mindereaders are on break. You're going to have to state your problem if you want help. Unless I missed it that is.
[05:18] <Undersound> testing for encoding
[05:18] <green_earz> captine: dvdbackup
[05:18] <captine> mwe, I've been told that.  What type of trouble?
[05:18] <jmoncayo> joh6nn, really cool script
[05:18] <yaiba> ok thx
[05:18] <scifi> mwe: i just realised....this is for RE-Sizing the partition then the remaining space it will use for ubuntu
[05:18] <captine> brb
[05:18] <mwe> scifi: heh
[05:19] <scifi> mwe: think i need to make it 100 or so for windows, leaving remaining space for ubuntu
[05:19] <lililililillili> Hello guys
[05:19] <lililililillili> I need help
[05:19] <mwe> scifi: how much do you want for ubuntu?
[05:19] <Justi1> ARGH!
[05:19] <mwe> Justi1: then ask a question :)
[05:19] <ompaul> crowbar, talk about it in #ubuntu+1 thats the dapper channel
[05:19] <scifi> mwe: i thought around 75-100gig
[05:19] <Justi1> I cannot delete a certain folder, even when I'm logged on as root. What do I do!
[05:19] <crowbar> oh, crazy.  thank you ompaul
[05:20] <scifi> mwe: maybe thats too much tho
[05:20] <mwe> scifi: that's plenty and then a lot
[05:20] <joh6nn> jmoncayo: so far as i know, it works for any battery.    i'll be sure to tell my friend you like it; my friend wrote it for me
[05:20] <Eftarjin> hi
[05:20] <mwe> scifi: if you don't wanna keep a lot of movies in ubuntu you probably don't need that much
[05:20] <Justi1> QUESTION: I cannot delete a certain folder, even when I'm logged on as root. What do I do!
[05:20] <green_earz> Justi1: rm -r "dir-name"
[05:20] <jmoncayo> joh6nn, ok tell him the script works really good
[05:21] <mwe> scifi: 25GB or so would normally be more than enough
[05:21] <scifi> mwe: ok if i tell it to resize it to 175gig, in theory that leaves 25gig for ubuntu...if that is indeed what it means
[05:22] <mwe> scifi: I haven't used the resizer on the install cd. but i'd think so
[05:22] <joh6nn> green_earz: you probably should have asked justi1 WHICH folder...
[05:22] <scifi> mwe: gonna try it :O
[05:22] <green_earz> you that right
[05:23] <joh6nn> green_earz: i've got $10 says he just rm'ed something important
[05:23] <ompaul> joh6nn, maybe he needed to do that anyway :-/
[05:24] <joh6nn> ompaul: i think we all need to rm something important once.  otherwise we'll never learn
[05:24] <mwe> scifi: asuming 200GB is the actual size counted in 2^30 giga bytes
[05:24] <mwe> scifi: 2^30 bit that is
[05:25] <freakabcd> joh6nn, not if that something important had a backup somewhere off disk ;)
[05:26] <scifi> mwe: ok sweet, the partition overview shows i have a 150gig partition formatted in ntfs, a 98.5gig primary partition in ext3 and a 1.5 logical swap partition, thats sounds ok
[05:26] <green_earz> joh6nn: i was thinking that he may have been have a problem with a dir that got a space in its name that why the " "   hope he not killed is setup
[05:26] <joh6nn> freakabcd: aw, making backups is cheating
[05:26] <scifi> mwe: i cud always increase the ntfs in future
[05:27] <ompaul> green_earz, joh6nn freakabcd I have one thing to say before I declare this session for #ubuntu-offtopic that is \.
[05:27] <mwe> scifi: maybe I don't know how easy resizing the ext partition is. I think it's easy with gparted
[05:27] <joh6nn> green_earz: a good thought, but the way he logged off immediately after you told him that is suspicious, no?
[05:27] <AAA> scifi  it is generally recommened to have 2x the amount of swap as RAM
[05:28] <scifi> aaa: that wud mean 3gig of ram :O
[05:28] <AAA> other way around, unless you have 1.5G of RAM
[05:29] <scifi> aaa: sorry misread read it, yeh i have 0.5gig of ram, so 1.5 gig swap partition is about right
[05:30] <TokenBad> ok my sound will not work and xmms is locking up...and all started yesterday..but was working before
[05:30] <MHobbit> What command should I run to diff two directories, listing what files exist in one but not the other?
[05:30] <shinichi> there are lots of dhcp problems on ubuntuforums.org... and not one of them seem to be solved!
[05:30] <shinichi> I, like everyone else, am getting the DHCP DISCOVER to 255.255.255.255.
[05:30] <slavik> MHobbit: you could do that in perl :P
[05:30] <AAA> MHobbit  rsync -nav /dir1/ dir2/ (include the / and the -n is a "dry run")
[05:31] <slavik> bah
[05:31] <shinichi> doesn't work though. I even told my gentoo dhcp server to allow port 67.
[05:31] <slavik> that isn't perl ...
[05:31] <MHobbit> AAA: Thanks.
[05:32] <scifi> k its "writing file system to partition #2...."
[05:32] <scifi> ^^
[05:32] <AAA> MHobbit  I misread the "not the other part" I guess I don't understand what you want to do ??
[05:32] <shinichi> is it normal that a dhcp client would 'broadcast to 255.255.255.255'? what does that really mean?
[05:32] <AAA> shinichi  it means it is looking 'everywhere' for a dhcp server
[05:33] <TokenBad> ok can anyone help with this....xmms was working yesterday..and now the sound works outside xmms and all that but xmms will not play mp3 anymore..and when try to it locks up
[05:33] <MHobbit> AAA: Nevermind, I think that'll work
[05:33] <scifi> "installing base system"....gonna look for linux drivers for my adsl modem router while it installs
[05:33] <phycho> hey guys
[05:33] <phycho> is ubuntu beta.. what one is that
[05:33] <phycho> is it breezy, warty
[05:33] <phycho> or what
[05:33] <slavik> dapper
[05:33] <phycho> k
[05:34] <shinichi> tokenbad - try reinstalling xmms.
[05:34] <AAA> MHobbit  rsync is GREAT but a caveat... dir1 and dir1/ are very different, man rsync =p
[05:34] <slavik> breezy has been not beta for 6 months now
[05:34] <scifi> anyone have a usb modem/router that uses the conexant chipset and has it working in ubuntu?
[05:34] <TokenBad> shinichi, doing that now
[05:34] <shinichi> something's wrong with xmms mpg123 plugin perhaps?
[05:34] <phycho> k
[05:34] <shinichi> thanks aaa.
[05:34] <phycho> thanks
[05:34] <Steff_breezy> hi, I want to remove all *,t.jpg in a certain directory, how do I do that?
[05:34] <phycho> E: No such script: /usr/lib/debootstrap/scripts/dapper
[05:34] <Steff_breezy> recusive
[05:34] <phycho> i assume theres no debootstrap for dapper?
[05:34] <slavik> Steff_breezy: pm me
[05:34] <AAA> Steff_breezy  find dir/ -name *t.jpg -exec rm {} \;
[05:35] <slavik> or that
[05:35] <shinichi> not rm -R *,t.jpg?
[05:35] <scifi> !conexant
[05:35] <irrvi> how come I have no sound even though I have a /dev/dsp?
[05:35] <ubotu> scifi: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:35] <Steff_breezy> AAA, does that include subdirectories?
[05:35] <AAA> that too
[05:35] <Steff_breezy> very nice, thank you
[05:36] <AAA> tmtowtdi
[05:36] <irrvi> how come I have no sound even though I have a /dev/dsp?
[05:36] <AAA> theres more than one way to do it ;)
[05:36] <shinichi> okay, guys. Any reason why my ubuntu laptop isn't getting a DHCPOFFER?
[05:36] <Steff_breezy> AAA, if i want to be safe, can i just do rm -i in it?
[05:36] <slavik> irrvi: are your speakers on?
[05:36] <Scott_the_ubuntu> UbuntuNub|Scott
[05:36] <irrvi> slavik: is there an off switch?
[05:36] <spoon> anyone have any idea what might be wrong with my setup? I can't mount my sony momory stick reader for my camera. with or without the memory stick in the reader. its a usb memory stick reader/writer MSAC-US1
[05:37] <AAA> Steff_breezy  yah
[05:37] <ompaul> !wireless
[05:37] <ubotu> rumour has it, wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers
[05:37] <slavik> irrvi: dunno, they are your speakers, I would assume they'd be on ...
[05:37] <jmoncayo> irrvi, try esd &
[05:37] <roryy> phycho: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot suggests otherwise
[05:37] <green_earz> irrvi: is the user in the audio group ? to check use the command groups
[05:37] <AAA> spoon  as root try mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/somedirthatexists
[05:37] <TokenBad> shinichi, that worked...wonder what happened
[05:38] <Steff_breezy> AAA, it worked, thanks again
[05:38] <shinichi> eh. stupid computer.
[05:38] <irrvi> green_earz: yes
[05:38] <AAA> Steff_breezy  np, linux is goooood
[05:38] <spoon> AAA k I shall try. in the GUI it just says "Unable to mount the selected volume. The volume is probably in a format that cannot be mounted."
[05:39] <AAA> spoon  cat /proc/filesystems <--that will tell you what fs you can mount
[05:39] <Scott_the_ubuntu> question:  Does Ubuntu easily see external USB driveS?
[05:39] <shreevatsa> Scott_the_ubuntu: yes
[05:40] <irrvi> jmoncayo:
[05:40] <irrvi> ALSA lib confmisc.c:560:(snd_determine_driver) could not open control for card 0
[05:40] <irrvi> ALSA lib conf.c:3479:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_card_driver returned error: No such file or directory
[05:40] <irrvi> ALSA lib confmisc.c:392:(snd_func_concat) error evaluating strings
[05:40] <irrvi> ALSA lib conf.c:3479:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_concat returned error: No such file or directory
[05:40] <AAA> Scott_the_ubuntu  as long as you have the driver for the usb device and the fs which is _usually_ vfat
[05:40] <irrvi> ALSA lib confmisc.c:955:(snd_func_refer) error evaluating name
[05:40] <Scott_the_ubuntu> mine is not being picked up.
[05:40] <irrvi> ALSA lib conf.c:3479:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer returned error: No such file or directory
[05:40] <irrvi> ALSA lib conf.c:3948:(snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: No such file or directory
[05:40] <irrvi> ALSA lib pcm.c:2090:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM default
[05:40] <shreevatsa> !tell irrvi about pastebin
[05:40] <gn00b> i'm trying to 'add applications' but getting this error msg, 'W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)'. how do i fix?
[05:40] <Scott_the_ubuntu> It is my USB music hard drive. I just moved to Ubuntu from XP
[05:40] <AAA> Scott_the_ubuntu  is it NTFS? you may have to use mount -t ntfs
[05:41] <Scott_the_ubuntu> yes it probably is.
[05:41] <Scott_the_ubuntu> use that in a term?
[05:41] <roryy> gn00b: try the 'reload' button, and then try again
[05:41] <AAA> mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /mnt/some.place.that.exists
[05:42] <jmoncayo> irrvi, i think your sound was not installed dont know what to do sorry
[05:42] <AAA> you can use mkdir /mnt/music if you need too
[05:42] <spoon> AAA it says "mount: /dev/sda1 already mounted or /mnt/memstick busy"
[05:42] <twidget> Going with the AMD Athlon 64 was a big mistake, in hindsight :(
[05:42] <AAA> spoon  ok ls -l /mnt/memstick
[05:42] <jmoncayo> can i mount a folder or disk over the network, like from other box
[05:42] <Scott_the_ubuntu> what is the /dev/sdal ?
[05:42] <Scott_the_ubuntu> the command location?
[05:42] <green_earz> irrvi: use the link the see what the module should be for your sound card http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/
[05:42] <AAA> jmoncayo  sure, with nfs or smb
[05:43] <spoon> AAA it says total 0
[05:43] <jmoncayo> AAA, with smb i can copy files right? it opens like a web page?
[05:43] <Scott_the_ubuntu> says "only root can do that"
[05:43] <AAA> Scott_the_ubuntu  that is generally where usb drives will show up, you can check dmesg <-- type that in a term after you plug in the usb drive, it will show you where it lives
[05:43] <punkrockguy318> Where is the termcap library located for ubuntu?
[05:44] <AAA>  /etc/termcap ~/.termcap
[05:44] <Scott_the_ubuntu> dmesg
[05:44] <Scott_the_ubuntu> oops
[05:44] <Scott_the_ubuntu> LOL
[05:44] <Phex> Hello
[05:44] <jmoncayo> Scott_the_ubuntu, try with sudo mount
[05:44] <punkrockguy318> AAA i don't have that on my syster
[05:44] <punkrockguy318> system*
[05:44] <Phex> i've a problem i need root tights to install a game how i get root?
[05:44] <AAA> spoon  there you go, it is ready to go
[05:45] <gnomefreak> Phex: sudo
[05:45] <AAA> punkrockguy318  sorry, I misread.. nevermind me
[05:45] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Phex about root
[05:45] <AAA> punkrockguy318  up the punx ! ;)
[05:45] <spoon> AAA I have a a feeling its not seeing my reader as sda1. is there a way to see what /dev/ each drive is in "Computer"
[05:45] <Phex> ok
[05:45] <spoon> AAA there is data on my memory stick and I don't see it. its not working yet.
[05:45] <shiv> how do u install directx in wine?
[05:45] <AAA> spoon  mount   it is mounted and ready for use it would seem. just nothing on the drive
[05:46] <spoon> there is stuff on there, I can put it on my windows box and see my files.
[05:46] <shinichi> spoon:dmesg|less and look for a new device
[05:46] <roryy> try 'sudo fdisk -l' to list partitions (should list usb disk partitions as well)
[05:47] <AAA> spoon  touch /mnt/memstick/foo (or whereever it is mounted) you can just type mount and it will show you what is mounted where, the touch command simple creates an empty file
[05:47] <Scott_the_ubuntu> -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /mnt/some.place.that.exists
[05:47] <Scott_the_ubuntu> oops ignore
[05:47] <AAA> spoon  you may have to use sudo to read the files, if so you'll have to change the perms on /mnt/memstick chown user.user /mnt/memstick
[05:47] <Jimmni> I can't get a bootable copy of Ubuntu to burn on OSX. Tried both Toast and Disk Utility. Anyone have any idea why?
[05:48] <Scott_the_ubuntu> I ran DMESG
[05:48] <Scott_the_ubuntu> gave me alot of info
[05:48] <AAA> ok, I have to go have fun n00b's
[05:48] <Phex> and what is my root password? the same as the normal password?
[05:48] <Scott_the_ubuntu> cya aaa
[05:48] <roryy> !tell Phex about rootsudo
[05:48] <spoon> ok thanks
[05:48] <irrvi> green_earz: what next?
[05:48] <Steff_breezy> Hi again, due to problems with a browser plugin, i have no sound anymore, but dont want to reboot. how can i restart/reset the sound system?
[05:48] <Phex> i hope my com do this too
[05:48] <spoon> :\ damn mem stick
[05:49] <scifi> my fresh new ubuntu install is now "loading modules" :D
[05:49] <jmoncayo> how can i install the java plugin?
[05:49] <ompaul> !tell jmoncayo about java
[05:50] <ompaul> jmoncayo, read the message from ubotu
[05:50] <jmoncayo> oki thanks
[05:50] <irrvi> green_earz: what next?
[05:50] <jmoncayo> ompaul, thats for the firefox java plugin right?
[05:51] <MHobbit> What reason would there be that the 5.10 LiveDVD won't go at a res higher than 640x480? Would I have to set something up for my monitor?
[05:51] <ompaul> jmoncayo, it's all there yes
[05:51] <green_earz> irrvi: install modconf   sudo aptitude install modconf    then sudo modconf and track down the alsa module for you sound card and install it
[05:51] <spoon> roryy thanks that told me where it is "fdisk -l" it says its fat12 though does linux support that. :|
[05:51] <AAA> spoon  before I go, unplug the drive and plug it back in, then type dmesg and look at the output, it should give you clues as to what is going on, good luck
[05:51] <ompaul> Jimmni, you need to burn "an image" not a file that is the most usual reason for a failure to burn it right
[05:52] <roryy> spoon: i fat12 is supported
[05:52] <jmoncayo> ompaul, thanks a lot
[05:52] <spoon> cool!
[05:52] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> AAA I did dmesg and gotlots of info, what am I looking for to find my USB drive?
[05:52] <AAA> fat12 is generally just for floppy discks
[05:52] <AAA> UbuntuNoob|Scott  you are looking for anything regarding /dev/xxx and usb
[05:52] <jmoncayo> are mem stick fat32?
[05:53] <irrvi> Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "modconf"
[05:53] <AAA> jmoncayo  or vfat yeah
[05:53] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> im just trying to get to my music on my USB drvie while working on getting my Ubuntu up to par
[05:53] <jmoncayo> oki
[05:53] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> its an NTFS drive I belive
[05:53] <AAA> spencer@madia:~$ apt-cache search modconf
[05:53] <AAA> modconf - Device Driver Configuration
[05:53] <irrvi> green_earz: Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "modconf"
[05:53] <Phex> he said to me authentication failure, sorry
[05:54] <Jimmni> ompaul - do you mean to burn a mounted disc image, rather than just selected the .iso to burn?
[05:54] <Steff_breezy> Hi again, due to problems with a browser plugin, i have no sound anymore, but dont want to reboot. how can i restart/reset the sound system?
[05:54] <AAA>  /etc/init.d/alsa restart
[05:54] <green_earz> irrvi: have a look at the out put of lsmod and see if your sound card module is installed.
[05:55] <newtoubuntu> Hey, does anybody know of a good FREE particion manager for Windows (my friend wants to make a duel boot, without getting rid of anything)  Iknow you can do it in install, but he doesn't feel confortable.
[05:55] <ompaul> Jimmni, now you have me lost, the biggest failure is that people burn an iso as a file to a disk when they should burn an image to a disk then it will boot, also make sure your using the correct ppc version  for your chip,
[05:55] <spoon> ok got it mounted! thanks AAA and roryy!!!
[05:56] <do_me_nice> how do I add something to a PATH?
[05:56] <gn00b> newtoubuntu, try fips
[05:56] <Jimmni> Oh, okay, I see what you're saying. No, I burnt the disc, not the image. I can mount it and browse through all the files
[05:56] <newtoubuntu> gn00d: is it good?
[05:56] <kingspawn> do_me_nice: export PATH=$PATH:/what/you/want/to/add
[05:56] <germanazo> hi everybody
[05:57] <gn00b> newtoubuntu, it works
[05:57] <AAA> spoon  excellent. I am really gone now
[05:57] <irrvi> green_earz: it says a whole bunch of things thats like snd and soundcore, and stuff like that
[05:57] <spoon> AAA cool thanks again
[05:57] <scifi> newtoubuntu: i am currently installing ubuntu for the first time and used the installers partitioner to set it up, tell ur friend its very easy to without erasing any data...u just resize ur windows partition and the remaining space is used for ubuntu
[05:57] <Jimmni> How do I tell if I have the right version for my chip? I have a G3 I want to put it on and definitely got the PPC version
[05:57] <gn00b> newtoubuntu, it's not a 3rd party software that resides on your system
[05:57] <shiv> Will this work on breezy? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=127090
[05:57] <newtoubuntu> Ok I'll check out
[05:57] <do_me_nice> thank you
[05:57] <do_me_nice> what is AIM for linux?
[05:57] <Scar_Freewill> where can i get wine beta?
[05:57] <do_me_nice> is there a version available
[05:58] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> Looking for assistance getting to my USB drive.
[05:58] <kingspawn> do_me_nice: you can use GAIM
[05:58] <Steff_breezy> AAA, alsa said: alsa: Warning: The 'restart' method is deprecated and will be removed.
[05:58] <gn00b> newtoubuntu, first you defrag, then use fips to repartition. it's non-destructive
[05:58] <do_me_nice> thanks again
[05:58] <sergio> ciao a tutti
[05:58] <newtoubuntu> yea, I was just reading that on their site
[05:59] <irrvi> green_earz: it says a whole bunch of things thats like snd and soundcore, and stuff like that
[05:59] <scifi> anyone use an origo modem/router with ubuntu?
[05:59] <Scar_Freewill> scifi, 56/k crap here ^^
[06:00] <kingspawn> UbuntuNoob|Scott: what are you trying to do? usb drive? hm, try fdisk -l /dev/sda for starters
[06:00] <chris_> does anyone know how to convert dmg to iso?
[06:01] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> kingspawn, I dont want to format or lose any info.
[06:01] <chris_> :) it'll really help me out
[06:01] <scifi> ouch scar
[06:01] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> kingspawn, It was my music drive when I was on XP
[06:01] <bjorn_> hi
[06:01] <Phex> i've root rights but i can't copy it
[06:01] <chris_> does anyone know how to convert dmg to iso?
[06:01] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> kingspawn, I just started Ubuntu, and know I will be working on it for a while so I want to hear my tunes.
[06:01] <kingspawn> UbuntuNoob|Scott: i havent told you to format, i have told you to list the partition table of /dev/sda, if it exists
[06:01] <chris_> does anyone know how to convert dmg to iso and programs??
[06:02] <chris_> any*
[06:02] <chris_> :(
[06:02] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> kingspawn, ok...just used to fdisk in windows being used for partitioning...looking....
[06:02] <kingspawn> UbuntuNoob|Scott: also dmesg | grep usb is an idea
[06:02] <gn00b> chris_, that's not gonna get an answer any faster, and it may get you kicked/banned
[06:02] <bjorn_> ive also just installed ubuntu, but i get "command nog found"  when i try to unrar something, how do i do that?
[06:02] <kingspawn> UbuntuNoob|Scott: it still is used for partitioning, but it can do other useful stuff too
[06:02] <kingspawn> bjorn_: sudo apt-get install unrar
[06:03] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> kingspawn, [4300202.042000]  usb-storage: device found at 11
[06:03] <jesse_> voIP Utilities?
[06:03] <Phex> hm now i can't copy something
[06:03] <Phex> but i've root rights
[06:03] <kingspawn> bjorn_: make that unrar-free
[06:03] <Phex> can anyone help?
[06:03] <Steff_breezy> so i have to reboot? nobody knows how to reset alsa?
[06:03] <kingspawn> UbuntuNoob|Scott: what did fdisk -l tell you?
[06:03] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> didnt do that yet...will do now.
[06:03] <roryy> make sure it's 'sudo fdisk -l'
[06:03] <kingspawn> Steff_breezy: /etc/init.d/alsa restart
[06:03] <kingspawn> ah, yes, the sudo :)
[06:04] <simonpca> a+, je quitte | bye, i'll quit
[06:04] <Steff_breezy> kingspawn, "Warning: The 'restart' method is deprecated and will be removed.
[06:04] <Steff_breezy> "
[06:04] <bjorn_> it asks for a password
[06:04] <Phex> i can'T believe it can nobody help me?
[06:04] <bjorn_> why?
[06:04] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> kingspawn, sdv@blackbox-linux:~$ fdisk -l /dev/sda
[06:04] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> Cannot open /dev/sda
[06:04] <Steff_breezy> kingspawn, "Warning: Use the alsa-utils initscript instead."
[06:04] <green_earz> irrvi: the link should be of help to you > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Sound#head-6f0af37b5422a1bd6d58855b95384aae365eea11
[06:04] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Phex: What are you trying to copy?
[06:04] <roryy> Phex: it's not clear what your problem is; what are you trying to do?
[06:04] <simonpca> i'll leave [pour sissi] 
[06:05] <Phex> a game (.run)
[06:05] <Phex> i'm root
[06:05] <roryy> UbuntuNoob|Scott: try just 'sudo fdisk -l'
[06:05] <simonpca> I leave [merde sissi , t'as fini de me reprendre? :D] 
[06:05] <roryy> Phex: copy from where, to where
[06:05] <Phex> but
[06:05] <swiadek> Ubuntu v5.1 + Skype v1.2 on a 14" laptop with 1024x768 (max resolution). There are two toolbars: one on the top and the other at the bottom. I go to Skype --> Personal Information and the box that opens up fills up an entire screen and OK is not seen. Bottom toolbar is over the Skype's Personal Information box and there is no way to select OK to Continue. How can I move or configure bottom toolbar to auto-disappear, or to not
[06:05] <swiadek> be over the top of other boxes ?
[06:05] <kingspawn> Steff_breezy: then do as it tells you, use the alsa-utils in the same dir
[06:06] <Phex> from my hdd mobile to my hdd in my computer
[06:06] <kingspawn> UbuntuNoob|Scott: try the same for sdb sdc etc
[06:06] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> kingspawn, - PM
[06:06] <roryy> Phex: what command are you using ?
[06:06] <Steff_breezy> kingspawn, ok, ill try, thx
[06:06] <void^> swiadek: try alt-leftclickdrag to move a window
[06:06] <twidget> #nvidia says my screen resolution problem is a known problem http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=67972&page=4
[06:07] <Phex> i using root -i to became root
[06:07] <Phex> then i make it with drag &drop
[06:07] <bjorn_> ive just installed ubuntu, but i get "command not found"  when i try to unrar something, how do i do that?
[06:07] <roryy> Phex: ah, no, unfortunately that doesn't work
[06:07] <kingspawn> bjorn_: i've told you a little while ago
[06:07] <roryy> Phex: try, in the menu,     Applications -> System tools -> Run as different user
[06:07] <twidget> They say "You'll have to either find an Ubuntu package for nvidia-xconfig then, or uninstall the Ubuntu packages and use the official .run installer."
[06:07] <scifi> ok just booted up fine into my new ubuntu install. whats that probe command guys that auto-detects monitors refresh rate?
[06:08] <Drac[Server] > What kernel type do I need for a Pentium III? 686?
[06:08] <Phex> ok i'll have a try
[06:08] <roryy> Phex: run the command 'nautilus' as root
[06:08] <roryy> Phex: do be careful; it's very easy to do something silly when you have root privileges
[06:08] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Drac[Server] : yeah
[06:08] <twidget> ...but it's all so Greek to me
[06:08] <Drac[Server] > PuMpErNiCkLe, thanks.
[06:08] <PuMpErNiCkLe> np :)
[06:08] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> kingspawn, I sent you the responses.
[06:08] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> kingspawn, via pm
[06:08] <Phex> ok i'll be careful
[06:09] <swiadek> void^,  I am trying Alt +... and appears to work same as without Alt button. The box won't go higher than the top of the screen even if I grab the box in the middle. So that I could see the bottom of the box.
[06:09] <kingspawn> UbuntuNoob|Scott: i didnt get them. are you registered with freenode?
[06:09] <Phex> i only want to copy something nothing more
[06:09] <scifi> !refresh rate
[06:09] <ubotu> scifi: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:10] <Scar_Freewill> who can i ask some questions about the Synaptic Package Manager?
[06:10] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> kingspawn, no :\
[06:10] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> $ sudo fdisk -l
[06:10] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> Disk /dev/sda: 250.0 GB, 250059350016 bytes
[06:10] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30401 cylinders
[06:10] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[06:10] <UbuntuNoob|Scott>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[06:10] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Scar_Freewill: all of us, at once
[06:10] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> /dev/sda1   *           1       15201   122102001   83  Linux
[06:10] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> /dev/sda2           15202       30401   122094000   83  Linux
[06:10] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> Disk /dev/sdb: 120.0 GB, 120034123776 bytes
[06:10] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 14593 cylinders
[06:10] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Scar_Freewill: Then if anyone knows the answer, they'll tell you. :)
[06:10] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[06:10] <UbuntuNoob|Scott>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[06:10] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> sdv@blackbox-linux:~$
[06:10] <PuMpErNiCkLe> !paste
[06:10] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> ACK sorry!!
[06:10] <ubotu> Please don't flood the channel! For best results use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and tell people the URL
[06:10] <kingspawn> UbuntuNoob|Scott: well, does any of these correspond to your usb drive?
[06:11] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> kingspawn, yes, the 120gb
[06:11] <kingspawn> UbuntuNoob|Scott: well then great, fdisk -l /dev/sdb
[06:12] <kingspawn> UbuntuNoob|Scott: its probably at sdb1, and you can mount that
[06:12] <arrick> anyone, I created a user called webmaster, how do I set his password?
[06:12] <kingspawn> arrick: passwd webmaster
[06:12] <kingspawn> arrick: prolly with sudo in front
[06:12] <arrick> thanks
[06:13] <Scar_Freewill> you know, the SPM dls the desired file(s) in deb format, and then installes it does it delete the deb files after the time?
[06:13] <jmoncayo> what is the latest estable ubuntu realese
[06:13] <nazeer2cul> plz help -- i have just installed 5.10 ubuntu the installation completed but some io error of hda which is cd  and xserver did not start
[06:13] <kingspawn> jmoncayo: breezy
[06:13] <jamaas> How might I get two separate pc's running ubuntu to load exaclty the same packages using apt-get ?  thanks
[06:13] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> kingspawn, sdb
[06:13] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> /dev/sdb
[06:13] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> oh wait...
[06:13] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> i did the fdisk -l /dev/sdb
[06:13] <nazeer2cul> i have burned the rewritable cd
[06:13] <Phex> ok it works
[06:14] <kingspawn> UbuntuNoob|Scott: well, use pastebin.com to paste the result of it
[06:14] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> kingspawn, i did the fdisk -l /dev/sdb but not sure what i was looking for.
[06:14] <nazeer2cul> is it not advisable to burn rewritable cd?
[06:14] <nazeer2cul> help plz
[06:14] <kingspawn> UbuntuNoob|Scott: you are looking forsomething like the entry /dev/sda1 in what you pasted earlier
[06:14] <jmoncayo> kingspawn, when is dapper realesed?
[06:14] <kingspawn> jmoncayo: scheduled for june 1
[06:14] <PuMpErNiCkLe> jamaas: Send them both the same apt-get command, or make one download them and then copy that one's package cache to the other.
[06:15] <jmoncayo> oki thanks
[06:15] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> kingspawn, posted to pastebin
[06:15] <jamaas> PuMpErNiCkLe, thanks, one has more packages on it than the other, but  I want the same!  how/where is the package cache?
[06:16] <kingspawn> UbuntuNoob|Scott: i'll need the link..
[06:16] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> http://pastebin.com/661657
[06:16] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> lol sorry
[06:16] <kingspawn> UbuntuNoob|Scott: hm, are you sure there is a filesystem on this disk?
[06:16] <PuMpErNiCkLe> jamaas: It's in /var/cache/apt/archives
[06:17] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> yup
[06:17] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> let me put siomething else there
[06:17] <jamaas> PuMpErNiCkLe, thanks , will give that a try
[06:17] <Isil`Zha> hi. i tried an upgrade to dapper from a newly installed breezy. now i'm stuck with coreutils failing to upgrade. can anybody give me some hint about this?
[06:18] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> kingspawn,  nm on the other paste
[06:18] <phycho> hey guys, anyone know what startup script in ubuntu modifies /etc/mtab?
[06:19] <nazeer2cul> xserver install failed at first time install anybody plz help
[06:19] <_jon> nazeer2cul, What video card do you have?
[06:19] <kingspawn> UbuntuNoob|Scott: well, this is a tricky one, since fdisk cant see a filesystem on it
[06:20] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> kingspawn, its ntfs, think thats why?
[06:20] <kingspawn> UbuntuNoob|Scott: hm, no, ubuntu sees ntfs just dandy usually
[06:21] <kingspawn> UbuntuNoob|Scott: just for checking, if you do sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb, are the results the same?
[06:22] <swiadek> Synaptic Package Manager reports that System is Up-To-Date. bzip2 is v1.02 from 2001. According to bzip2 developers bzip2's latest version is v1.03 from 2005.
[06:22] <mzuverink> Is Dapper ready enough to upgrade from Breezy? Or can someone recommend a breezy repo that has gnome 2.14?
[06:23] <Isil`Zha> swiadek: are you on breety?
[06:23] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> kingspawn, http://pastebin.com/661674
[06:23] <swiadek> What can be done to determine if there are no other files that are perhaps out of date ?
[06:23] <Isil`Zha> *breezy
[06:23] <Jimmni> Does anyone have any idea why none of the install CDs I'm burning in Mac OS X are bootable? :(
[06:23] <swiadek> This is v5.1
[06:23] <systemofadown> why isn't or doesn't modules-update generate a modprobe.conf?
[06:23] <mzuverink> Jimmni: are you burning the image or just the iso to disc?
[06:23] <Ribs> Jimmni: Are you pressing and holding "c" when you reboot the computer with the CD in the drive?
[06:24] <swiadek> I think that v5.1 is code name Breezer -- I've seen it few times somewhere.
[06:24] <sissi2> hi all, I'm unable to use my wireless card on my hp pavillon dv5000
[06:24] <sissi2> anyone could help me ?
[06:25] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Jimmni: Are you using the MacOSX disk utility to burn the .iso?
[06:25] <naxxtor> sissi2 - what's up withit?
[06:25] <kingspawn> UbuntuNoob|Scott: if you do sudo fdisk /dev/sdb, and when you get into fdisk, press p<ENTER>, still no filesystem-info?
[06:25] <jenda> Why doesn't the terminal pop up when I press the keyboard shortcut associated with it?
[06:25] <Jimmni> No, when I put the CDs into the drive, they mount, but they're not letting me boot
[06:25] <sissi2> naxxtor, unable to make it works
[06:25] <MisterN> hi
[06:25] <Jimmni> I tried using both Disk Utility and Toast
[06:25] <Isil`Zha> swiadek: with breezy you don't have the last versions. that's intentional. that it is a version from 2001 surprises me though
[06:25] <naxxtor> sissi2, how far have you got with it
[06:25] <kingspawn> Jimmni: turned on booting off a cd in your bios?
[06:25] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> oh
[06:25] <sissi2> naxxtor, it doesn't work, no device
[06:26] <Jimmni> I can boot the Mac OS X Install CD okay
[06:26] <sissi2> naxxtor, I try to install driver from hp website with nswrapper
[06:26] <sissi2> naxxtor, but nothing
[06:26] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> kingspawn, so copy and paste "sudo fdisk /dev/sdb"
[06:26] <naxxtor> sissi2, do you know what card it is?
[06:26] <shreevatsa> Isil`Zha: I don't think bzip2 is updated very often; it's one of the programs that have been around since the dawn of time and are now close to perfection :)
[06:26] <_jon> Jimmni, I think the ticket is "holding C" and making sure you burnt the ISO correctly.
[06:26] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> kingspawn, and when that starts hit "p <enter>" ?
[06:26] <ubu_usr_1> anyone have any recommendations for a good usnet reader that can download and decode binary?
[06:26] <_jon> Jimmni, (those being two seperate things)
[06:26] <kingspawn> UbuntuNoob|Scott: yeah. and q to quit
[06:26] <sissi2> naxxtor, 0000:06:02.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation: Unknown device 4318 (rev 02)
[06:27] <Isil`Zha> shreevatsa: ok i think you got a point there ;)
[06:27] <Phex> what the command for deinstalling software?
[06:27] <naxxtor> sissi2, hmm - what drivers were you trying to use with ndiswrapper?
[06:27] <Jimmni> jon - I tried that (c key). I also tried setting the CD to be the default book disk in Startup Disk, but the CD doesn't show up as a bootable volume in startup disk
[06:27] <sissi2> naxxtor, the hp.com winXP driver
[06:27] <_jon> Jimmni, When you look at the CD from Mac OS X, what do you see?  one file? or multiple files?
[06:27] <Jimmni> jon - what constitutes burning the iso 'correctly'?
[06:28] <Jimmni> Lots of files - the whole filesystem
[06:28] <Jimmni> I definitely bunt the image, rather than the image as a file onto the disc
[06:28] <_jon> Jimmni, Yeah.
[06:28] <ubu_usr_1> Phex,  I have used ap-get install <software>-
[06:28] <sissi2> naxxtor, I'll give you the link
[06:28] <_jon> Jimmni, So when you reboot, with the CD in the drive, holding C doesn't boot it?
[06:28] <naxxtor> sissi2, have you tried this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[06:28] <Jimmni> Nope - just boots through to OS X
[06:29] <sissi2> naxxtor, no I look this
[06:29] <Jimmni> Holding C with the OS X install CD boots the installer though.
[06:29] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> kingspawn,     http://pastebin.com/661686
[06:29] <_jon> Jimmni, Ah, =\  You've reached the ends of me as far as PPC booting goes.
[06:29] <Jimmni> jon - Thanks for your help anyway! I consider myself a semi-expert Mac user, but this has really got me stumpted
[06:30] <sissi2> naxxtor, the problem is I'm a noobie with linux and ubuntu there is a lot of things I don't understant
[06:30] <Ribs> Jimmni: Do you have a burnt CD with you now?
[06:30] <jack-> try setting the startup volume in system preferences? ;p
[06:30] <twidget> #nvidia
[06:30] <twidget> oops
[06:30] <Jimmni> Ribs - Yes, in my drive as we speak
[06:30] <Ribs> Jimmni: Look at it in MacOS X, right now... are there loads of files within it?
[06:30] <Ribs> or just the one?
[06:30] <_jon> Ribs, Jimmni burnt it correctly.
[06:30] <_jon> Ribs, From what he told me ;)
[06:30] <KriS|work> Hi
[06:30] <kingspawn> UbuntuNoob|Scott: well then im at a loss. got enough space to back up whats on it while you reformat it to a decent filesystem?
[06:30] <Ribs> oh
[06:30] <Jimmni> First folder "dists" last folder "preseed" and a couple of files
[06:31] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> no, ill do it later
[06:31] <_jon> Ribs, Yea ;)  That's the limit of most of us here =\  That's the problem.
[06:31] <Jimmni> I tried booting it on 2 Macs, no luck on either
[06:31] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> kingspawn, know anything about installing Wine? LOL
[06:31] <arvind> hello, i have a problem
[06:31] <KriS|work> If I wanted to submit a bug report, where could I do so?
[06:31] <MHobbit> sudo apt-get install wine ?
[06:31] <kingspawn> UbuntuNoob|Scott: not a thing
[06:31] <naxxtor> sissi2, only way you can get better is to stick with it - i'm learning that the hard ware
[06:31] <naxxtor> *hard way
[06:31] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> kingspawn, well thanks for your efforts, very much appreciated!
[06:31] <robinl1> how to get the dapper look in breezy?
[06:31] <arvind> i tried to instal XGL
[06:31] <kingspawn> np
[06:31] <arvind> with the wiki faq
[06:31] <_jon> Jimmni, Well, it's probably a problem with the CD, even though you burnt it correctly, one thing I would try is redownloading the ISO and burning it again.  But I make no promises. =\
[06:31] <arvind> and after gdm restart
[06:31] <Ribs> Jimmni: Okay... plan B
[06:32] <sissi2> naxxtor, I'll do my best ...
[06:32] <scifi> hey guys, trying to get internet connection working on my new ubuntu install. my usb conexant device shows up in device manager, and ppp/modem entry shows up in network administrator but it isnt activated. any ideas?
[06:32] <shreevatsa> UbuntuNoob|Scott: Didn't "sudo apt-get install wine" work?
[06:32] <Ribs> Jimmni: Have you heard of "ShipIt" ?
[06:32] <Jimmni> jon - Already redownloaded and tried two different medias
[06:32] <arvind> i got tech
[06:32] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> QUESTION: Need help installing (WINE) I get a message about not having a valid C compiler. Is that normal with a new linux install?
[06:32] <Jimmni> Ribs - I was thinking about just doing that, but it seemed silly to order a CD when I have a fast line and a CD/DVD writer
[06:32] <_jon> Jimmni, Do you have a PPC? (not one of the newer newer macs?) (just a side check, not patronizing you)
[06:33] <shreevatsa> UbuntuNoob|Scott: No, not normal.
[06:33] <_jon> Jimmni, Because if you have an intel, ;) It may not work.
[06:33] <Jimmni> Yup, G3 and G4. I want it on the G3, but it doesn't work on the G4 either.  - "#define DISKNAME  Ubuntu 5.10 "Breezy Badger" - Release powerpc"
[06:33] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> shreevatsa, everytime I install linux of any kind, I have seen that
[06:33] <naxxtor> gotta test a gnome tweak - brb
[06:33] <shreevatsa> UbuntuNoob|Scott: Unless, of course, you really *don't* have a valid C compiler, I guess :)
[06:33] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> haha
[06:33] <Ribs> Jimmni: Can you use another application to burn the iso files?
[06:34] <swiadek> Isil`Zha, How can I tell if this is Breezy vs Breety ?
[06:34] <_jon> Jimmni, Yeah, what Ribs mentioned, because if *one* file is changed by Mac OSX before you burn it...
[06:34] <Jimmni> Ribs - tried Toast and Disk Utility so far. I'm not sure if there are any others that don't rely on the same Apple tools as Disk Utility
[06:34] <taigeR> i am trying to share my ubuntu printer with windows xp
[06:34] <taigeR> i setup the port to listen to in cups but windows can't find the printer
[06:35] <Jimmni> I noticed that Toast 7 mounts disc images before burning them. Would mounting it potentially ruin the image?
[06:35] <kynix> !bot
[06:35] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[06:35] <kingspawn> UbuntuNoob|Scott: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[06:35] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> shreevatsa, are you familiar with wine and/or compilers?
[06:35] <_jon> Jimmni, hdiutil burn ~/Desktop/myburn.iso  Tried that?
[06:35] <arvind> i was trying to install XGL using : http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto
[06:35] <kingspawn> UbuntuNoob|Scott: to install compilers etc.
[06:35] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> http://pastebin.com/661694 - this is my WINE error
[06:35] <arvind> and
[06:35] <shreevatsa> UbuntuNoob|Scott: Sort of
[06:35] <taigeR> anybody can help me with setting up my printer to share with windows?
[06:35] <arvind> after gdm restart
[06:35] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> kingspawn, thx
[06:36] <arvind> i can't startx
[06:36] <sissi2> naxxtor, there is to many driver and files I'm lost
[06:36] <arvind> and i can't run compize
[06:36] <Jimmni> job - Not tried that - but will do now! Thanks :) If this doesn't work I think I'll give up :(
[06:36] <Jimmni> *jon
[06:36] <arvind> couse system tells me thta it doesn't exist
[06:36] <arvind> can anyone help me ?
[06:36] <_jon> Jimmni, And order ;)  Free anyways.
[06:36] <shreevatsa> UbuntuNoob|Scott: Oh, you're trying to compile from source... why not just use apt-get (or Synaptic if you prefer a GUI)?
[06:36] <_jon> Jimmni, Well, good luck, but I am departing. :)
[06:36] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> is PASTE in linux NOT CNTRL-V?
[06:37] <arvind> :( help pleaseeee
[06:37] <arvind> UbuntuNoob|Scott: ctrl + insert
[06:37] <Jimmni> jon - Thanks for your help anyway!
[06:37] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> shreevatsa, cause im a NOOB
[06:37] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> hahaha
[06:37] <kingspawn> shift + insert is paste, no?
[06:37] <arvind> yes
[06:37] <kingspawn> ctrl + insert is copy
[06:37] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> i dont know linux.
[06:37] <scifi> anyone?
[06:37] <shreevatsa> UbuntuNoob|Scott: Yeah, so using synaptic is a thousand times easier than trying to compile it
[06:37] <naxxtor> sissi2, it's only one of them you need, IIRC - i think it's a .INF file
[06:37] <arvind> uhm sorry true, shift+insert
[06:37] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> shreevatsa, im new to linux, I know a few (5-10) basic commands
[06:38] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> shreevatsa, never heard of it
[06:38] <shreevatsa> UbuntuNoob|Scott: Ok. Are you averse to using a terminal?
[06:38] <arvind> ~can any one help me with XGL ?!
[06:38] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> shreevatsa, very little.
[06:38] <shreevatsa> arvind: Is this dapper?
[06:38] <taigeR> I setup my printer to listen on port 631 but I windows doesn't see my ubuntu printer, anybody could help?
[06:38] <sissi2> naxxtor, different files some of them is for suse, another one is for debian etc... unable to find witch one I need
[06:38] <shreevatsa> UbuntuNoob|Scott: If you're already compiling, I guess not. Well then, start a terminal, and do "sudo apt-get install wine"
[06:38] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> shreevatsa, but, i want to learn this to help with my professional career so thats what i shoudl know
[06:38] <arvind> shreevatsa: ubuntu
[06:38] <arvind> breezy badger
[06:39] <arvind> i did everything exactly as was on wiki.ubuntu.net/XghlHowto
[06:39] <sissi2> naxxtor, forget it it's too hard I'm not a computeur enginer
[06:39] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[06:39] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> oops
[06:39] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[06:39] <arvind> till the step with compiz -...
[06:39] <arvind> couse i jsut can't
[06:39] <ubu_usr_1> taigeR, I haven't done this but I would imagine you would need samba installed on the windows machine?
[06:39] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> dpk...
[06:39] <arvind> shreevatsa: can you help ?
[06:39] <naxxtor> sissi2, it's not too hard - are you looking for native linux drivers for the card?
[06:39] <shreevatsa> arvind: Sorry, I know nothing :(
[06:39] <sissi2> naxxtor, ??
[06:39] <arvind> damn
[06:40] <shreevatsa> UbuntuNoob|Scott: Ok then, try running it ("sudo dkpg --configure -a")
[06:40] <naxxtor> sissi2, you were saying about SuSE packages and debian - implying that you have got some drivers for linux?  (btw, you can use debian packages on ubuntu)
[06:40] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> shreevatsa, doing that...says i need SU however it seems the pass i set for that during install (i think i set) isnt working
[06:40] <sissi2> naxxtor, I just want to use my wireless card, I know how to install wifi-radar but all about (driver kernel etc..) to strange
[06:41] <nopea> anybody know if there are any reps out there that have Firefox 1.5 and Thunderbird 1.5?
[06:41] <shreevatsa> UbuntuNoob|Scott: Give _your_ password
[06:41] <shreevatsa> arvind: Maybe someone in #ubuntu+1 can help you (although this is the right place...)
[06:41] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> shreevatsa, tried that too
[06:41] <arvind> ech, where is that support from the topic of thsi # ? howcome some one putted an art about installing XGL if it doesn't work
[06:41] <sissi2> naxxtor, I try to make it works since 5 hours, I'm bit bored about it (but I know it's not your fault)
[06:41] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> shreevatsa, for SU access I just use "su" right?
[06:42] <shreevatsa> UbuntuNoob|Scott: By default, Ubuntu does not have a root account, so su won't work
[06:42] <naxxtor> sissi2, yes, i know how it is.  i spent about 6 hours last night setting up a bluetooth dongle
[06:42] <ompaul> !tell UbuntuNoob|Scott about sudo
[06:42] <sissi2> naxxtor, what a pitu
[06:42] <shreevatsa> UbuntuNoob|Scott: You must do "sudo" before each command (and give it _your_ password if it asks), or else enable the root account
[06:42] <sissi2> pity
[06:42] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> ok
[06:43] <ompaul> UbuntuNoob|Scott, please read the info on the url the bot sent you, it explains this root / sudo thing rather well
[06:43] <kingspawn> i usually just enable root, since i get cranky with all the sudoing
[06:44] <robinl1> i ruined my theme by trying to install the Dapper theme onto my ubuntu box. any help? lost clearlooks and stuff.
[06:44] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> shreevatsa, $ sudo dkpg --configure -a
[06:44] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> sudo: dkpg: command not found
[06:44] <sissi2> naxxtor, I found !!
[06:44] <kingspawn> UbuntuNoob|Scott: dpkg
[06:44] <sissi2> I take one of them (hazzard) and it works
[06:44] <sissi2> funny
[06:45] <ompaul> UbuntuNoob|Scott, typo there  Debian PacKaGe
[06:45] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> is Ubuntu based on Deb?
[06:45] <screamz> yes
[06:45] <kingspawn> indeed it is
[06:45] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> nice.
[06:45] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> that helps
[06:45] <jenda> Where can I set keyboard shortcuts if System>pref>KS won't do?
[06:45] <Ribs> if Deb means "Debian", yes
[06:45] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> i wanted to get skype
[06:45] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> but didnt see ubuntu
[06:45] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> hha
[06:46] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> ok wine is up!
[06:46] <secreteagle> hi all - muh 1st time loggin in ubuntu thru vodacom GPRS!!!
[06:46] <ompaul> !tell UbuntuNoob|Scott about skype
[06:47] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> what else can i get with apt-get
[06:47] <MenZa> tonnes of things
[06:48] <kingspawn> UbuntuNoob|Scott: try out System->Admin->Synaptic
[06:48] <kingspawn> UbuntuNoob|Scott: lets you browse stuff
[06:48] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> $ sudo dpkg --configure -a
[06:48] <UbuntuNoob|Scott>  - that just setup ALOT of stuff
[06:48] <jenda> UbuntuNoob|Scott: have a look at synaptic
[06:48] <marek_> scott, look in system>admin>synaptic
[06:48] <ompaul> !tell UbuntuNoob|Scott about universe
[06:48] <slavik> yes, over 15000 packages
[06:48] <shreevatsa> UbuntuNoob|Scott: Everything
[06:48] <marek_> hehe
[06:48] <slavik> although not exactly up to date ...
[06:48] <ompaul> UbuntuNoob|Scott, please read the url the bot just sent you, you will find it useful
[06:48] <shreevatsa> UbuntuNoob|Scott: The whole point of Ubuntu (or Debian) is that you don't have to compile anything, just "apt-get install <whatever>"
[06:48] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> Ompaul - are you real or a bot?
[06:49] <kingspawn> he's real
[06:49] <slavik> no he isn't
[06:49] <shreevatsa> UbuntuNoob|Scott: Synaptic is a GUI for it, but if you're already fine with using the terminal, you can just use apt-get
[06:49] <kingspawn> just seems a bit robotic at times.. ;)
[06:49] <jenda> ompaul's a bot
[06:49] <slavik> ompaul is a bot
[06:49] <scifi> hey guys, trying to get internet connection working on my new ubuntu install. my usb conexant device shows up in device manager, and ppp/modem entry shows up in network administrator but it isnt activated. any ideas?
[06:49] <slavik> kingspawn: stop lying
[06:49] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> LOL king
[06:49] <kingspawn> haha
[06:49] <slavik> scifi: click on properties, then enable connection
[06:49] <slavik> see?
[06:50] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> scifi, it must be working, your here!    j/k ;)
[06:50] <slavik> ompaul is the culmination of 10b USD of AI research
[06:50] <scifi> slavik: doesnt work
[06:50] <slavik> hmm
[06:51] <slavik> scifi: can you click on the button properties? or what happens?
[06:51] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> Q: How do I know if I have Wine now?
[06:51] <slavik> twidget is my laundry bot :)
[06:51] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> XP puts it in your prog list...
[06:51] <slavik> located in another part of the country ...
[06:51] <kingspawn> actually this whole channel is just bots
[06:51] <pigor> hello. my gnuplot does not understand some keys like "delete" and a the german letters ("ae", "oe", "ue", "sz"). can anyone help?
[06:52] <slavik> UbuntuNoob|Scott: it's there, when you try to run an exe, it will run it through wine
[06:52] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> slavik, automatically?
[06:52] <slavik> yes ...
[06:52] <slavik> UbuntuNoob|Scott: I would recommend going through the terminal for any errors though
[06:52] <slavik> because wine can't run everything butter smooth
[06:52] <scifi> as soon as i click enable this connection in properties the "OK" button blanks out, it seems to want me to put something in the dial box or account boxes...but im not on dial-up :P
[06:52] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> Wine Terminal?
[06:53] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> or Terminial terminal
[06:53] <slavik> terminal terminal
[06:53] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> :)
[06:53] <slavik> scifi: sorry, no idea how to set those things up
[06:53] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> yeah, i want to do that so i can learn the roots of the os
[06:53] <jenda> How do I make my terminal pop up upon pressing a media key?
[06:53] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> you dont learn jack with a gui
[06:53] <jenda> note: the key works fine for any other option in the keyboard shortcuts configuration tool, and the terminal pops up with a normal setting, eg. Ctrl-Alt-T, but not with a media key
[06:53] <slavik> UbuntuNoob|Scott: in terminal "wine path/to/exe/program.exe
[06:54] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> thanks.
[06:54] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> will add that to my ntoes
[06:54] <shreevatsa> UbuntuNoob|Scott: Then you better not run Windows programs... get rid of wine ;)
[06:54] <slavik> UbuntuNoob|Scott: GUI is easier to figure out than a terminal
[06:54] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> I want WINE for WoW
[06:54] <slavik> shreevatsa: stop being like RMS, he's a hippy
[06:54] <slavik> UbuntuNoob|Scott: get rid of wine, NOW!!!
[06:54] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> LOL
[06:54] <slavik> not WOW, but NOW!!!
[06:54] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> hahah
[06:55] <marek_> Opinions on WINE: Can it really run PC apps as good as a PC w/ windows os?
[06:55] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> im not addicted to WoW
[06:55] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> so im ok
[06:55] <Roots> I know the roots of the os
[06:55] <slavik> wow = culmination of 10b usd research into timesinks ...
[06:55] <slavik> Roots: that
[06:55] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> hahaha
[06:55] <Inazad> How to know me kernel' version?
[06:55] <slavik> s because you ARE the Roots :P
[06:55] <marek_> Opinions on WINE: Can it really run PC apps as good as a PC w/ windows os?
[06:55] <Inazad> How to know my kernel' version?
[06:55] <slavik> Inazad: in terminal "uname -r"
[06:55] <Inazad> slavik, thx
[06:56] <slavik> marek_: correct
[06:56] <taomaster> how do u change the resolution in command line?
[06:56] <slavik> taomaster: you can't
[06:56] <slavik> taomaster: for the xserver?
[06:56] <marek_> slavik, do you have experience w/ 3d intesive games in WINE? still good?
[06:56] <taomaster> i'm  trying out the mepis (ubuntu base)  o/s
[06:57] <slavik> marek_: wine ran guild wars once and I was able to log in and go to a city, but then gw crashed
[06:57] <slavik> and there was no pointer
[06:57] <Inazad> slavik, do I have to recompile my kernel if I have the 2.6.12-10-386 version?
[06:57] <slavik> no, it's the latest, I think
[06:57] <beta_m> i want to change PATH variable for every user on the computer, not just to the current one. How do i do that, i have already tried to add it to the /etc/profiles, but that didn't do the trick
[06:58] <mDot> well, looks like i successfully upgraded to dapper without breaking anything
[06:58] <ompaul> UbuntuNoob|Scott, I *strongly* suggest you read the links given to you by the channel bot ubotu, it will make your life a lot easier
[06:58] <mDot> w00t
[06:58] <slavik> beta_m: in etc/profiles is the way to do it ... I wouldn't suggest changing it completely though
[06:58] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> POLL: What do you use for listening to music on linux? I used to use iTunes on XP.
[06:58] <VolVE> hey all, I'm trying to install Breezy Badger AMD64 for the first time, and it's not seeing my Nforce disks and RAIDed - I've looked around Google but can't find a solution... anyone? :)
[06:58] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> ompaul, Plan on it! Thanks.
[06:59] <beta_m> but i did change etc/profiles, i added Java/bin to it, and i also added JAVA_HOME, with the export at the end... and that doesn't show up either
[06:59] <slavik> hmm
[06:59] <slavik> beta_m: how did you add it?
[06:59] <slavik> with colon as the delimeter?
[07:00] <beta_m> i "sudo vi /etc/profile" and added it to both instances where it's being initialised
[07:01] <slavik> beta_m: dunno then, sorry
[07:01] <beta_m> q;-(
[07:01] <beta_m> ok, how do i change it for a single user?
[07:02] <beta_m> and how do i change it for a single session?
[07:02] <Zarephath> I can't get Ubuntu to add a directory to my PATH....grrrr.....http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12323
[07:02] <beta_m> is it .bash_profile for the user?
[07:02] <slavik> beta_m: yes
[07:02] <Zarephath> beta_m: yes...see pastebin
[07:02] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> When you put a CD into your drive...do you have to mount it to use it?
[07:03] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> I put in a DVD (video)
[07:03] <slavik> UbuntuNoob|Scott: usually not
[07:03] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> totem movie player says "failed to fine mountpoint for device /dev/hdd in /etc/fstab
[07:04] <mDot> anyone know a way to force kaffeine to all ways open in minimal mode?
[07:05] <Zarephath> UbuntuNoob|Scott: Look in /media to see what defaults are setup for your cdrom(s)
[07:05] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> QUESTION: What is most popular mail application that works like Outlook (calendar, contacts, email, and more)
[07:05] <Zarephath> Or dmesg...
[07:05] <Zarephath> Evolution
[07:06] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> 0 items in cdrom
[07:06] <slavik> UbuntuNoob|Scott: evolution
[07:06] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> ?
[07:06] <slavik> but evolution is evil
[07:06] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> whats that
[07:06] <Zarephath> UbuntuNoob|Scott: What are the folder names?
[07:06] <slavik> use thunderbird
[07:07] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> Zarephath, cdrom, cdrom0, floppy, floppy 0, usb, usb0, usb1
[07:07] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> all say 0 items
[07:07] <shreevatsa> UbuntuNoob|Scott: So maybe you have to mount it. try mounting it
[07:07] <pumlpeon> I am here to report that the burning tool, (nautilus) rejects filenames with accents and stucks !!
[07:07] <kingspawn> UbuntuNoob|Scott: mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom
[07:07] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> not sure how to find the cd to moust it
[07:07] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> mount it
[07:07] <slavik> pumlpeon: spanish ?
[07:07] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> i cant see anythign if i lookat my cdrom
[07:07] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> dvd rom that is
[07:07] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> its a dvd movie
[07:08] <pumlpeon> slavik, no french
[07:08] <Zarephath> UbuntuNoob|Scott: Then which drive is the DVD in? USB, cdrom, cdrom0?
[07:08] <slavik> UbuntuNoob|Scott: "sudo mount /mnt/cdrom0"
[07:08] <slavik> pumlpeon: I'd ask in the fr channel
[07:08] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> which, sudo mount, or mount -t
[07:09] <kingspawn> UbuntuNoob|Scott: just give it a shot, will you?
[07:09] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> yes sir
[07:09] <scifi> looks like there is a driver here http://accessrunner.sourceforge.net/driver.shtml for my modem......but i dont understand how to install it, wud anyone be willing to help me thru it?
[07:09] <kingspawn> :)
[07:09] <kingspawn> UbuntuNoob|Scott: usually one will work
[07:09] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> only root can do that
[07:09] <kingspawn> UbuntuNoob|Scott: sudo in front
[07:10] <kingspawn> UbuntuNoob|Scott: a golden rule with my advice: put sudo in front of EVERYTHING i say, i always forget it
[07:10] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> mount: mount point media/cdrom does not exist
[07:10] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> hahaha ok
[07:10] <Zarephath> Ok that means that wasn't the drive with the DVD
[07:10] <kingspawn> doesnt it just mean that /media/cdrom dir doesnt exist?
[07:10] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> slavik, mount: can't find /mnt/cdrom0 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[07:11] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> kingspawn, mount: mount point media/cdrom does not exist
[07:11] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> its the only cd drive i have up right now
[07:11] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> nothing else connected but hard drive and cd drive
[07:11] <Zarephath> Is it an internal..or USB?
[07:11] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> internal
[07:12] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> plextor baby
[07:12] <kingspawn> UbuntuNoob|Scott: does /media have a dir called cdrom?
[07:12] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> with Tombstone DVD :) inside
[07:12] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> kingspawn, yes
[07:12] <kingspawn> UbuntuNoob|Scott: what exactly did you type?
[07:12] <brandon_> anybody get photoshop cs2 working with corssover orifice?
[07:13] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> $ sudo mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom media/cdrom
[07:13] <Zarephath> Usually it should be hdc not hdd...however you might have issues with a dvd...since there are additional components that have to be installed for DVD to function
[07:13] <MTecknology> How can I effectively adjust my CPU speed?
[07:13] <naxxtor> has anyone had problems with transparent splash screens on breezy?  Here's what happens when GDM has "no background" http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v186/goldfish654/04b45d69.jpg
[07:13] <kingspawn> UbuntuNoob|Scott: add a / before media/cdrom
[07:13] <kingspawn> UbuntuNoob|Scott: ie /media/cdrom
[07:13] <skpl> is anyone else having trouble connecting to servers with nicotine?
[07:14] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> woot
[07:14] <mlowe> naxxtor, i use chbg for backgrounds, yes i have seen problems also
[07:14] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> mount: block device /dev/cdrom is write-protected, mounting read-only
[07:14] <kingspawn> UbuntuNoob|Scott: yes, did you expect your dvd to be writable?
[07:14] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> no
[07:14] <Zarephath> Congratulations...you just mounted the drive
[07:14] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> its a dvd burner, but im not looking to burn it :)
[07:15] <naxxtor> mlowe, chbg? hmm.  The problem before was the background was loading for the transparency before it loaded onto the screen
[07:15] <Zarephath> I suggest mplayer be installed to watch DVD...however there are others...
[07:15] <kingspawn> UbuntuNoob|Scott: its just telling you that the media you have in it right now isnt burnable
[07:15] <naxxtor> mlowe, is there an alternative?
[07:15] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> right
[07:15] <mDot> any ideas on getting Kaffeine to always open in minimal mode?
[07:16] <Putiikki> UbuntuNoob|Scott: and if you want to burn later, you can use k3b :)
[07:16] <MTecknology> How can I effectively adjust my CPU speed? or the speed a program is running?
[07:16] <scifi> my floppy drive doesnt work in ubuntu, says unable to mount. can anyone help?
[07:17] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> hmm totum still wont play...using the "dvd rom disc" - i can go to file system and media/cdrom
[07:17] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> and i have a video ts folder
[07:17] <kingspawn> UbuntuNoob|Scott: have you installed the stuff needed to play dvds?
[07:17] <Putiikki> !dvd
[07:17] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[07:17] <nalioth> hi y'all
[07:18] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> kingspawn, knowing me, no.
[07:18] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> kingspawn, was usign totem moving player.
[07:18] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> thinking it would do dvd's
[07:18] <naxxtor> is it possible to upgrade gnome to v 2.12?
[07:18] <jpatrick> hi nalioth
[07:18] <kingspawn> UbuntuNoob|Scott: :) have a good read at help.ubuntu.com, tells you about lots and lots
[07:18] <scifi> !floppy drive
[07:18] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, scifi
[07:18] <naxxtor> on breezy
[07:18] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> haha
[07:18] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> thx
[07:18] <kingspawn> UbuntuNoob|Scott: and get away from totem as fast as you can. its evil and incredibly stupid.
[07:18] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> rtfm huh
[07:18] <kingspawn> UbuntuNoob|Scott: not exactly, but it answers very common questions
[07:19] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> k thx
[07:19] <scifi> !mount
[07:19] <ubotu> it has been said that mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[07:19] <surfdue_lappy> i need a nice ftp client with a gui for ubuntu whioch do you suggest?
[07:19] <kingspawn> surfdue_lappy: gftp
[07:20] <robinl1> i ruined my theme by trying to install the Dapper theme onto my ubuntu box. any help? lost clearlooks and stuff.
[07:20] <diego> hey whats the best game to play in ubuntu???
[07:21] <slavik> diego: planetpenguin-racer
[07:21] <diego> hmm let me check it out
[07:22] <scifi> my floppy drive doesnt work in ubuntu, says unable to mount. can anyone pls help?
[07:22] <highvoltage> some people also like bzflag and frozen bubble a lot
[07:22] <diego> which are those?
[07:22] <kingspawn> scifi: well, how are you mounting it?
[07:23] <scifi> kingspawn: no idea, just tried to access it and that was the error message
[07:23] <slavik> bzflag runs slow on my laptop and it doesn't seem to be very intensive ...
[07:23] <kingspawn> scifi: well. what filesystem is the floppy?
[07:24] <scifi> kingspawn: well i wrote to it via windows xp, so i guess it cant read it?
[07:24] <kingspawn> scifi: well, that depends. try out sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/fd0 /wherever
[07:25] <eobanb> an ntfs floppy...!?!?!
[07:25] <kingspawn> scifi: might also be vfat or whatever, ihavent use a floppy since 98
[07:25] <kingspawn> haha, no idea
[07:25] <eobanb> i'm pretty there are basically no ntfs floppies out there
[07:25] <kingspawn> do vfat then
[07:25] <slavik> floppies still exist?
[07:25] <eobanb> i'd try -t vfat or -t msdos or -t fat or -t fat32 or something like that
[07:25] <kingspawn> exactly..
[07:26] <eobanb> or -t auto should work right?
[07:26] <kingspawn> yeah, auto should do it
[07:26] <kingspawn> good idea
[07:26] <scifi> haha i used a floppy cus the file im trying to put on ubuntu is only likekb
[07:26] <eobanb> scifi, do sudo mount -t auto /dev-fd0 /media/something
[07:26] <eobanb> er
[07:26] <scifi> 14kb*
[07:26] <eobanb> /dev/fd0
[07:27] <kingspawn> scifi: why not just mount up your windows partition and copy it directly?
[07:27] <scifi> u can access windows partition within ubuntu?
[07:27] <arrick> FlannelKing, can you check out this site and let me know if it works? It is only partially done, just want to make sure the thing opens.
[07:27] <kingspawn> scifi: yes yes :)
[07:27] <eobanb> scifi, sure
[07:27] <arrick> FlannelKing, http://arrick.no-ip.com
[07:28] <eobanb> lol, that's why you're using a floppy? to copy from one partition to another?
[07:28] <scifi> and still leave xp able to access the partition too?
[07:28] <arrick> whadup kingspawn
[07:28] <EnsignRedshirt> Hello, world.
[07:28] <Tomcat_> scifi: Sure.
[07:28] <kingspawn> scifi: yeah, no problem. just dont write to your xp-partiion from linux
[07:28] <kingspawn> arrick: yo
[07:28] <jpatrick> EnsignRedshirt: hello, user
[07:28] <kingspawn> just sittin around
[07:28] <eobanb> scifi, xp can't access ext3, but linux can read from NTFS
[07:28] <scifi> kingspawn/eobanb: thanks, may i ask how i do this? :P
[07:29] <kingspawn> scifi: well, do you know what partition your xp is on? ie /dev/hda1 or something of the sort
[07:29] <EnsignRedshirt> Which is the shell script that is executed when I login in, but not each time I start a shell/terminal?
[07:29] <arrick> kingspawn, , can you check out this site and let me know if it works? It is only partially done, just want to make sure the thing opens. http://arrick.no-ip.com
[07:30] <kingspawn> arrick: doesnt seem to accept connections
[07:30] <eobanb> scifi, depending on what partition the disk is on, you actually should just be able to open System > Disks and choose the partition you want to mount and click Mount
[07:30] <arrick> ok, try this
[07:30] <brandon_> EnsignRedShirt: .profile
[07:31] <scifi> ok i will try and find out
[07:31] <EnsignRedshirt> brandon_: Thanks.
[07:31] <marek_> lighttpd or apache?
[07:31] <smugol> cze wam
[07:32] <kingspawn> eobanb: that was a lot easier than what i was going to get him into :)
[07:32] <arrick> kingspawn, try http://71.115.179.219
[07:32] <arrick> I think my no-ip client is bad
[07:32] <eobanb> kingspawn, editing fstab and all that? :)
[07:33] <kingspawn> eobanb: you bet ;)
[07:33] <kingspawn> arrick: that works
[07:33] <kingspawn> arrick: looking good
[07:33] <kingspawn> arrick: almost :)
[07:33] <Tomcat_> marek_: apache \o/
[07:33] <arrick> ok thanks, gotta update the client
[07:33] <FLSimpsonKPT> how can i extreact / install php-fusion for my apache webserver???
[07:33] <scifi> kingspawn/eobanb: ok ive found the right partition, but cant see mount, i can see enable, is that it?
[07:33] <arrick> kingspawn, thanks
[07:33] <arrick> hey, kingspawn did you know you can run a free e-commerce site using paypal?
[07:34] <FLSimpsonKPT> how can i extreact / install php-fusion for my apache webserver???
[07:34] <kingspawn> arrick: i did not know that. you starting up your own business?
[07:34] <arrick> yeah
[07:34] <eobanb> scifi, yes, haha
[07:34] <arrick> again
[07:34] <slavik> arrick: what are you going to be selling?
[07:34] <arrick> I used to own a local shop, but never got business here in tome
[07:34] <arrick> town
[07:35] <arrick> Custom computers mostly, I have to get the spec form setup to get it going though
[07:35] <v3rmap> Hi. I need the C library man pages. Currently on my dapper system, "man strlen" does nothing. Any ideas on what package I should install?
[07:35] <kingspawn> v3rmap: manpages-dev
[07:35] <FLSimpsonKPT> is there an apache help channel???????????
[07:35] <arrick> Sometimes I will have odds and ends that I find on it as well
[07:35] <v3rmap> kingspawn, thank you.
[07:35] <arrick> !apache
[07:35] <ubotu> apache is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[07:35] <arrick> FLSimpsonKPT, ^^
[07:35] <FLSimpsonKPT> arrick:ty
[07:36] <scifi> eobanb: pressed enable but nothing seemed to happen
[07:36] <arrick> FLSimpsonKPT, also typ 'man apache2' in terminal and it will help quite a bit
[07:36] <kingspawn> v3rmap: and man 2 <whatever> to access the pages for kernel calls etc
[07:36] <eobanb> scifi, did you pick a mount point for it?
[07:36] <saik0> Can anybody tell me whats wrong with this gst pipleline? filesrc location=foo.wma ! ffdec_wma2 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! alsasink
[07:36] <FLSimpsonKPT> arrick: i need help extacting files to it
[07:36] <FLSimpsonKPT> arrick: trying to install php-fusion
[07:36] <saik0> i get "gstffmpegdec.c(1276): gst_ffmpegdec_chain (): /pipeline0/ffdec_wmav20"
[07:37] <necromancer> Hello folks! can someone please tell me how to disable "close tab" buttons in Gnome? I am hitting them accidentally everywhere :(
[07:37] <arrick> checkout the wiki page, it should help out
[07:37] <scifi> eobanb: how? :P
[07:37] <nathanael> Is Qemu available for Ubuntu?
[07:37] <eobanb> nathanael, sure
[07:37] <necromancer> Especially in Epiphany and Gedit
[07:37] <Tomcat_> nathanael: Yes, even packaged.
[07:37] <FLSimpsonKPT> arrick: kk
[07:37] <nathanael> ooh - nice
[07:37] <marek_> how to get apache to autostart upon boot?
[07:37] <Tomcat_> !package qemu
[07:37] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Tomcat_
[07:37] <arrick> either that or you;ll have to wait until IdleOne gets done moving, or duelboot comes on
[07:37] <Tomcat_> Or however that works.
[07:37] <arrick> tomcat
[07:38] <bjorn_> How do I log in as root in Ubuntu?
[07:38] <arrick> Tomcat_, !info qemu
[07:38] <arrick> !root
[07:38] <ubotu> [root]  Direct logging as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[07:38] <nathanael> !package wxvlc
[07:38] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, nathanael
[07:38] <tombo_> I have a new instal of Ubuntu.  Had trouble with display which was fixed by adding a new user, but I am unable to open any system or administration progs. Can anyone help?
[07:38] <eobanb> scifi, do you see under the partitions tab for the disk in question, where it says Access Path
[07:38] <bjorn_> But I need to log in as root to use alien, it tells me
[07:38] <kingspawn> bjorn_: do "sudo" in front
[07:38] <arrick> nathanael, try !info wxvlc
[07:38] <marvinalone> i'm setting up a single signon/roaming profile solution right now for a small number of machines, and i'm not sure whether i should use mysql or ldap for it ... any hints?
[07:38] <Tomcat_> !info qemu
[07:38] <ubotu> qemu: (fast processor emulator), section universe/misc, is optional. Version: 0.7.0-4ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1783 kB, Installed size: 5332 kB
[07:38] <kingspawn> bjorn_: like sudo alien <whatever>
[07:38] <Tomcat_> Ah. :)
[07:39] <eobanb> scifi, you can hit Change and choose a directory where the disk will be mounted; that's where you'll be able to browse the disk, but navigating to that folder
[07:39] <scifi> eoband: yeh it says none at the mo...i go into change, so i can just choose desktop or filesystem?
[07:39] <scifi> k thx
[07:39] <eobanb> scifi, i like to choose a path like /media/windows or something
[07:39] <scifi> ok
[07:39] <EnsignRedshirt> bjorn_: ...and enter *your* password when it asks.
[07:39] <dxdemetriou> hi
[07:39] <marek_> anyone know how to get apache to autostart upon system boot?
[07:39] <eobanb> scifi, you don't want to use your desktop as a mount point
[07:39] <scifi> lol :D
[07:39] <Tomcat_> marek_: Install the package, that will make it autostart.
[07:40] <bjorn_> i get this:
[07:40] <bjorn_> something with line 499
[07:40] <bjorn_> i cant copy t
[07:40] <bjorn_> it
[07:40] <dxdemetriou> can you tell me the command that makes a copy all directories and subdir., and the command that can changes user and permissions for dir/subdirs?
[07:40] <necromancer> anyone knows how to disable "close tab" button in epiphany and gedit? gnome channel is dead :(
[07:41] <EnsignRedshirt> dxdemetriou: The cp command has a -r option.
[07:41] <kingspawn> dxdemetriou: cp -R copies recursively
[07:41] <Tomcat_> dxdemetriou: I think "cp -a" will work. :o
[07:41] <scifi> eobanb: ok created the mount point, try to access it put it says i dont have the necessary permissions to access it
[07:41] <Tomcat_> dxdemetriou: chmod -R and chown -R are for the perms
[07:42] <FLSimpsonKPT> how do i extract files in the terminal?
[07:42] <alon> is there a difference between installing ubuntu, then kde, and removing gnome. to downloading kubuntu from the start?
[07:42] <doofy> how do i install wine on dapper drake?
[07:42] <eobanb> scifi, if you made the directory as root, you'll have to browse it as root, or you can change permissions on it.
[07:42] <dxdemetriou> Tomcat_: this can work with all dirs/subdirs?
[07:42] <nathanael> kubuntu has a lot of kubuntu-tweaks
[07:42] <kingspawn> FLSimpsonKPT: if its a .tgz or tar.gz yuo go tar zxvf file
[07:42] <eobanb> doofy, sudo apt-get install wine
[07:42] <marek_> tomcat_, do you know anything about config'ing mysql?
[07:42] <nathanael> That are not present in KDE-Core
[07:42] <simon> FLSimpsoKPT: if it is a .tgz: tar xzf file.tgz
[07:42] <FLSimpsonKPT> kingspawn:its a zip
[07:43] <kingspawn> FLSimpsonKPT: unzip then
[07:43] <doofy> eobanb: do I need to have a certain repository?
[07:43] <alon> is there a difference between installing ubuntu, then kde, and removing gnome. to downloading kubuntu from the start?
[07:43] <bjorn_> kingspawn?
[07:43] <eobanb> doofy, if you're already running dapper, then the repositories will be set to dapper's, and wine is in dapper's repo
[07:43] <FLSimpsonKPT> kingspawn: i cant it doesnt give me the write permissions to the folder
[07:43] <eobanb> doofy, so basically, no
[07:43] <bjorn_> i get this:
[07:43] <simon> alon: nope
[07:43] <doofy> eobanb: Its not finding it in there
[07:43] <bjorn_> bjorn@ubuntu:~$ sudo alien mozctlinstaller.rpm
[07:43] <bjorn_> Error executing "LANG=C rpm -qp --queryformat %{SUMMARY} mozctlinstaller.rpm": at /usr/share/perl5/Alien/Package.pm line 449.
[07:43] <Tomcat_> marek_: Sure, just ask away. I'm sure there are lots of people in here who know about MySQL.
[07:43] <Tomcat_> dxdemetriou: Yes.
[07:44] <FLSimpsonKPT> kingspawn: its for my webserver
[07:44] <doofy> eobanb: Package wine is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[07:44] <doofy> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[07:44] <doofy> is only available from another source
[07:44] <doofy> E: Package wine has no installation candidate
[07:44] <alon> simon how much time would it take to download kde?
[07:44] <dxdemetriou> Thanks for the help :)
[07:44] <eobanb> oh, sorry, doofy, it's in universe
[07:44] <nathanael> Is there a hotkey combo for switching between tabs in terminal and/or firefox?
[07:44] <tombo_> Can any one tell me how to administer ubuntu in a terminal.  I need to log in as root and create a new root acount
[07:44] <eobanb> doofy, just open Synaptic and add Universe
[07:44] <EnsignRedshirt> doofy: You can use the official wine repository, by adding this so sources.list: deb  http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/
[07:44] <nathanael> open terminal, then "sudo su"
[07:44] <kingspawn> FLSimpsonKPT: eh? sudo infront then
[07:44] <FLSimpsonKPT> tombo_: there is no root account in ubuntu
[07:44] <marek_> anyone know how to start/stop & config mysql that is installed through pkg mgr
[07:44] <eobanb> EnsignRedshirt, i dont think that's a good idea..
[07:44] <FLSimpsonKPT> tombo_: it is just sudo
[07:45] <nathanael> If ou use "sudo su", followed by the root password, you maintain root privs
[07:45] <_harm> when is dapper coming out?
[07:45] <Sionide> FLSimpsonKPT, sudo su  means you get a root@ prompt actually..
[07:45] <doofy> eobanb: I already have universe, but I don't think it's in there. I'll try the wine repository
[07:45] <nathanael> Thank you
[07:45] <Sionide> _harm, june 1st last time i checked
[07:45] <eobanb> doofy, it is in fact in universe.
[07:45] <bjorn_> kingspawn?
[07:45] <eobanb> http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/otherosfs/wine
[07:45] <KriS|work> Hi, anybody have a solution for this problem when using transcode? http://pastebin.ca/49431
[07:46] <FLSimpsonKPT> thats odd
[07:46] <FLSimpsonKPT> lol
[07:46] <kingspawn> bjorn_: well, have you got rpm installed?
[07:46] <scifi> eobanb: ok i can browse it within the disks manager :)
[07:46] <tombo_> FLSi, i cannot do any admin from the account I am in and the original account has no display.
[07:46] <doofy> eobanb: thats interesting. I'm not able to get it even with universe enabled
[07:46] <scifi> thats sweet
[07:46] <pirroH> does anyboyd remember the name of the graphical tool to dist-upgrade breezy?
[07:46] <eobanb> doofy, you can try wine's own repository, but don't blame me if something breaks
[07:46] <EnsignRedshirt> doofy: Did you update after changing the repositories?
[07:47] <bjorn_> eh i dont know, i think so
[07:47] <bjorn_> how can i check?
[07:47] <Ox0000> How can I specify the size of a ramdisk?
[07:47] <pirroH> IIRC, it is a package in backports
[07:47] <kingspawn> bjorn_: just type rpm
[07:47] <doofy> EnsignRedshirt: yes
[07:47] <eobanb> scifi, that's because the disks manager runs as root
[07:47] <Dr_Willis> tombo_,  you are saying your iniitally made account cant get to X but a different user account can?
[07:47] <doofy> eobanb: I'm not seeing it even when adding wine's repository
[07:47] <bjorn_> yes i have
[07:47] <scifi> eobanb: but nautalius doesnt?
[07:47] <kingspawn> bjorn_: then i have no idea, never used alien
[07:47] <eobanb> scifi, if you (for example) run an instance of nautilus as root (e.g. 'sudo nautilus') then you would be able to browse it, but you're better off just setting the permissions appropriately
[07:47] <bjorn_> oh ok, np
[07:48] <tombo_> Dr-Willis- yes, thats right
[07:48] <eobanb> doofy, you're remembering to run sudo apt-get update right?
[07:48] <nathanael> Is there a hotkey combo for switching between tabs in terminal and/or firefox?/exit
[07:48] <doofy> eobanb: yes
[07:48] <Dr_Willis> tombo_,  delete that users .gnome* or .kde* config dirs to reset them all back to default.. Or try another window manager.
[07:48] <scifi> eobanb: it doenst allow me to change permissions
[07:48] <Dr_Willis> tombo_,  ive seen some odd issues happen when the gnome settings get messed up.
[07:49] <eobanb> scifi, you have to change them as root..
[07:49] <EnsignRedshirt> doofy: I'm running breezy, and I see version 0.0.20050725-0ubuntu1 (from breezy) and version 0.9.11~winehq1.1 (from the sourceforge repository)
[07:49] <marek_> anyone know good name of mysql gui?
[07:49] <bjorn_> kingspawn, do you know any other way to convert rpm
[07:49] <tombo_> Dr-Willis, From the account I am in I cannot do any admin or atleast I do not know how
[07:50] <kingspawn> bjorn_: whats in the rpm youre installing? it probably exists in deb-format or in the repos
[07:50] <doofy> EnsignRedshirt: I think synaptic was reading my sources.list weird, i just added binary universe by hand and I think I may be able to see it now. 1 second
[07:50] <FLSimpsonKPT> kingspawn: that doesnt work
[07:50] <EnsignRedshirt> bjorn_: Just curious (and sorry if I missed this), what is the rpm package?
[07:50] <FLSimpsonKPT> kingspawn: i tried it
[07:50] <bjorn_> eh, its supposed to be cedega
[07:50] <Dr_Willis> tombo_,  login to the console with that original user. use the shell and mv (or delete) the .gnome* dirs (whatever they are called) also there may be some other .gconf or related dirs
[07:50] <kingspawn> FLSimpsonKPT: what doesnt work? :)
[07:50] <doofy> EnsignRedshirt: nope, would you mind posting your sources.list?
[07:50] <Dr_Willis> cedega has debs
[07:50] <FLSimpsonKPT> kingspawn: infront
[07:50] <FLSimpsonKPT> kingspawn: im confused now
[07:50] <Dr_Willis> or use the tar.gz versions
[07:51] <kingspawn> FLSimpsonKPT: i dont even know what you're asking now
[07:51] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> Question: Ok, one thing is bugging me. The directory windows...they open in a new window everytime...how do I make that stop
[07:51] <kingspawn> FLSimpsonKPT: so im confused too
[07:51] <eobanb> scifi, try sudo chmod 644 /mount/point (or whatever your mount point is)
[07:51] <FLSimpsonKPT> kingspawn: i need to extract a zip file to a  folder in my filesystem
[07:51] <eobanb> UbuntuNoob|Scott, set nautilus to be in browser mode
[07:51] <Dr_Willis> UbuntuNoob|Scott,  you mean you want to change from 'spatial to navigionational' mode :P
[07:51] <TheAsp> How can I tell if beagle is using xattr or storing all its stuff in the sqllite db?
[07:51] <tombo_> Dr-Willis  Can you tlell me how to log in  to original account from the new one?
[07:51] <FLSimpsonKPT> kingspawn: i cannot install it using acrhive manager
[07:51] <Dr_Willis> navigational = browser mode.
[07:52] <eobanb> right
[07:52] <marek_> anyone know good mysql GUI?
[07:52] <FLSimpsonKPT> kingspawn: it says i dont have the right permisisons
[07:52] <eobanb> spatial nautilus sucks :D
[07:52] <kingspawn> FLSimpsonKPT: and sudo unzip file.zip doesnt work?
[07:52] <Dr_Willis> tombo_,  use alt-ctrl-f1 and go to the console and login. :P
[07:52] <shreevatsa> UbuntuNoob|Scott: Stop using Nautilus, use "ls" instead ;)
[07:52] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> nto sure what nautilus is
[07:52] <FLSimpsonKPT> kingspawn: oh didnt try that
[07:52] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> ok
[07:52] <FLSimpsonKPT> kingspawn: i am a linux noob
[07:52] <kingspawn> shreevatsa: well said.
[07:52] <kingspawn> FLSimpsonKPT: no problem, i just got confused
[07:52] <Dr_Willis> tombo_,  or try the gdm login menus and the 'failsafe' login/session item.
[07:52] <shreevatsa> UbuntuNoob|Scott: The directory windows.. the program they open in is called Nautilus. (Roughly the equivalent of "Windows Explorer")
[07:52] <eobanb> UbuntuNoob|Scott, nautlius is the file manager
[07:53] <EnsignRedshirt> doofy: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12324
[07:53] <beta_m> firewall under ubuntu? where do i start looking....
[07:53] <doofy> EnsignRedshirt: thank you.
[07:53] <eobanb> beta_m, if you're coming from windows, you may think a firewall is more necessary than it really is; however if you still want the peace of mind you might try firestarter
[07:53] <marek_> anyone know good mysql GUI?
[07:54] <eobanb> besides phpmyadmin?
[07:54] <necromancer> marek_: nothing beats phpmyadmin
[07:54] <eobanb> well, i dont know about that..
[07:54] <eobanb> :D
[07:54] <marek_> i mean actual linux app
[07:54] <EnsignRedshirt> doofy: No problem.  I think it is basically a "stock" sources.list, exept for the sourceforge wine repository at the end.
[07:54] <EnsignRedshirt> *except
[07:54] <marek_> i understand phpmyadmin for remote admin of mysql
[07:54] <doofy> EnsignRedshirt: would it matter if im running x86_64?
[07:54] <marek_> something like CocoaSQL for mac?
[07:55] <eobanb> marek_, there's one called DBDesigner
[07:55] <tombo_> Dr-Willis, am logged in at the terminal, but I do not know names of programs or commandes to use, Grateful for any assistance
[07:55] <eobanb> marek_, yeah i like cocoamysql
[07:55] <EnsignRedshirt> doofy: I don't know, but my guess is yes.
[07:55] <necromancer> marek_: nothing as good as cocoamysql
[07:55] <slavik> frozen bubble = teh ownz0rz
[07:55] <scifi> eobanb: i take it im typing this command in terminal, when i type it in and press enter, it asks for my password, but doesnt allow me to type it :P
[07:55] <doofy> EnsignRedshirt: that could be my problem
[07:55] <kingspawn> scifi: its just invisible
[07:55] <kingspawn> scifi: you're typing, but you just dont see it
[07:56] <eobanb> ^--what kingspawn said
[07:56] <scifi> kingspawn: ok had a feeling that might be it thx
[07:56] <Phex> i've one more question how i can resize the screnn in ubuntu? (from 1152x768 to 1024x768)
[07:56] <Dr_Willis> !fixres
[07:56] <ubotu> hmm... fixres is Please read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:56] <FLSimpsonKPT> kingspawn: how can i extract it to /var/www ??
[07:56] <MHobbit> System -> Prefs -> Screen Resolution
[07:56] <eobanb> Phex, in the System > Preferences > Screen Resolution
[07:56] <Dr_Willis> kingspawn,   :)
[07:57] <EnsignRedshirt> doofy: Probably :(
[07:57] <marek_> with default install of mysql (from synaptic), what is default username + pass & port?
[07:57] <Phex> ok thanks
[07:57] <Dr_Willis> !mysql
[07:57] <ubotu> Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[07:57] <tript>  I'm trying to compile pekwm on my new ubuntu install, but make won't set the $(MAKE)...suggestions?
[07:57] <slavik> frozen bubble = teh ownz0rz
[07:58] <eobanb> marek_, i think you have to create a user first
[07:58] <kingspawn> FLSimpsonKPT: something like unzip file.zip -d /var/www maybe
[07:58] <doofy> What is the multiverse?
[07:58] <scifi> eobanb: ran the command but still cant change permissions
[07:58] <eobanb> doofy, multiverse is a wider array of packages that contain either non-free software or other software not supported by ubuntu, but available from its official repositories
[07:58] <kingspawn> FLSimpsonKPT: remember sudo..
[07:58] <TU2> What is the latest stable version of ubuntu?
[07:59] <doofy> eobanb: would you reccomend using it?
[07:59] <eobanb> doofy, for example, java JRE is in multiverse
[07:59] <eobanb> doofy, sure, if it has something that you need in it.
[07:59] <FLSimpsonKPT> kingspawn: k
[07:59] <doofy> eobanb: okay that makes sense
[07:59] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> Nice! http://linuxhelp.blogspot.com/2006/04/linux-distributions-birds-eye-view.html
[07:59] <tript> anyone? plz help
[07:59] <slavik> TU2: breezy badger
[07:59] <[PoVal] Dutchy> ahh much <3 for the fixres link, saves me some time finding it, was one of the issues i still had here :)
[07:59] <slavik> IMO, breezy badger should've come with the badger flash videos :D
[08:00] <FLSimpsonKPT> kingspawn: yep that did it
[08:00] <kingspawn> FLSimpsonKPT: great
[08:00] <eobanb> slavik, but flash is non-free :)
[08:00] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> anyone see that linux map?
[08:00] <slavik> eobanb: the videos are ... and they are fun :D
[08:00] <bjorn_> wat is synaptic?
[08:00] <eobanb> UbuntuNoob|Scott, personally i think that's kind of a silly chart
[08:00] <slavik> !synaptic
[08:00] <ubotu> rumour has it, synaptic is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[08:01] <kingspawn> UbuntuNoob|Scott: thats pretty cool
[08:01] <eobanb> UbuntuNoob|Scott, fedora core came from red hat, not the other way around
[08:01] <slavik> fedora core claims to not be red hat :P
[08:01] <eobanb> slavik, that doesnt mean it didnt come from red hat..
[08:01] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> well, thats true, but since they dropped it, and brought it back... that migh tbe why it shows that way
[08:01] <slavik> jon posted some linux desperation logos on his blog
[08:01] <slavik> eobanb: I never said anything from that
[08:02] <kingspawn> eobanb: haha, yeah, i was just thinking about that
[08:02] <kingspawn> eobanb: looks a bit fishy
[08:02] <doofy> eobanb: does apt look for a specific package to meet your architecture? For example if it does, can i make it use the 32 bit (assuming that tehre is no 64 bit and thats why i can not find it)
[08:02] <CarlFK> what is the URL of the dapper cd that isn't daily? (flight I think?)
[08:02] <kingspawn> slavik: dont you just love the way he uses the term "reverse engineering" in every sentence?
[08:02] <TU2> is there anyway way to get the exact kernel + patches that ubuntu uses so i can add a few patches to it myself?
[08:02] <Phex> sorry one more problem i can't open a RPM file ubuntu says: archiytype not supported
[08:02] <Phex> v
[08:02] <Jhair> TU2: yes with apt-get source
[08:02] <EnsignRedshirt> Hmmm, did someone say "badger"?  http://www.jibjab.com/Oddities/OddityRedir.aspx?full=1&oddid=74
[08:03] <TU2> Jhair, whats the name of the package i am looking for?
[08:03] <eobanb> the chart seems kind of inconsistent too...i mean they have nUbuntu and Knoppix STD under "Security Related distributions" and not under Debian, even though that's where they came from
[08:03] <eobanb> and for some reason they put SELinux on there (not a distro)
[08:03] <slavik> linux is said to come fromminix, which it didn't
[08:04] <shreevatsa> yeah, and what's the diference between "Small Linux Distributions" and "Minimalist distributions"?
[08:04] <slavik> linux is written from scratch ... but inspired and influenced by minix
[08:04] <TU2> shreevatsa, a few hundred megabytes.
[08:04] <nathanael> #fedora requires me to register my nick! One more strike against them..it's too bad really.
[08:04] <schtinky> ffmpeg says /dev/video0 isn't there, but it is. I don't get it. --  http://pastebin.com/661502
[08:04] <eobanb> small is like around 50 to 100 MB
[08:04] <shreevatsa> And there is nothing fundamentally different between the ones on the left and the right...
[08:04] <eobanb> minimalist is stuff you'd run on a router on 4 MB of flash
[08:04] <slavik> eobanb: or 10MB?
[08:04] <tombo_> Can any one tell me how to edit a user account from terminal?
[08:04] <slavik> or even 400KB?
[08:05] <eobanb> slavik, kernel doesnt fit in 400K
[08:05] <Phex> need help what must i do to open RPM formats which not supported?
[08:05] <shreevatsa> TU2: Ok, but why are they so far apart? The should be related somehow :)
[08:05] <slavik> eobanb: original MINIX?
[08:05] <nathanael> usermod
[08:05] <Jhair> TU2: I don't know which kernel do you have installed. But for example there exists the following package: linux-source-2.6.15 - Linux kernel source for version 2.6.15 with Ubuntu patches
[08:05] <TU2> erm?
[08:05] <slavik> Jhair: those are for badger
[08:06] <doofy> eobanb: I just downloaded the i386 .deb from the wine repositories and im going to try and force-architecture the install
[08:06] <TU2> you can download later versions of the kernel as prebuilt packages?
[08:06] <slavik> TU2: do "uname -r" in terminal
[08:06] <doofy> eobanb: it seemed to have worked fine
[08:06] <slavik> TU2: yes
[08:06] <TU2> Ooo.
[08:06] <TU2> sweet
[08:06] <Phex> oh no i'll need help!!!
[08:06] <slavik> TU2: do "mark all upgrades" in synaptic
[08:07] <TU2> ok
[08:07] <Jhair> slavik: uh? apt-cache policy linux-source-2.6.15 says it is available for dapper
[08:07] <slavik> 12-10 is latest for breezy
[08:07] <poikol> anybody has installed canon LBP3200 ?
[08:07] <nathanael> Has anyone here successfully gotten XGL running?
[08:07] <TU2> well balls to that.
[08:07] <slavik> Jhair: what did I say?
[08:07] <tript>  I'm trying to compile pekwm on my new ubuntu install, but make won't set the $(MAKE)...suggestions?
[08:07] <Tomcat_> nathanael: Sure. :o
[08:07] <tombo_> Can any on tell me how to edit a user account to do admin fro a terminal? please.
[08:08] <simon> tombo_: man visudo
[08:09] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> looking for a system log file for errors installing software...where would I look?
[08:09] <arrick> anyone, I downloaded a file that looks like this, noip-duc-linux.tar.tar, is it double tared?
[08:09] <TU2> does the ubuntu source linux package come ready to be built?
[08:09] <TU2> (ie with a working .config)
[08:09] <simon> arrick: only one way to find out :)
[08:09] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> Errors were encountered while processing:
[08:09] <UbuntuNoob|Scott>  skype_1.2.0.18-2_i386.deb
[08:09] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> where do i see those errors?
[08:09] <kingspawn> UbuntuNoob|Scott: in /var/log
[08:10] <marek_> necromancer, mysql-query-browser is pretty much a good tool
[08:10] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> thanks
[08:10] <EnsignRedshirt> UbuntuNoob|Scott: You could try dpkg.log in /var/log
[08:10] <marek_> necromancer, check it out in synaptic pkg mgr
[08:10] <Prak> does anyone know how to set up internet connection with a cable connected to a router?
[08:10] <roryy> arrick: 'tar tf noip-duc-linux.tar' will list the contents of the tar file
[08:10] <Rdde> Hey, how can i make my samba server only comunicate trew my gbit network card? 192.168.0.1 ? is there some interface option?
[08:10] <patrick24601> Prak: That is what I have - just plug and play
[08:11] <Phex> hello is alien default installet in ubuntu????????????????
[08:11] <nathanael> Do you have to have XGL to get "true" transparency (ie not a terminal window that just fills with the wallpaper, instead of the window under it)?
[08:11] <arrick> and what will extract it?
[08:11] <Prak> patrick24601: ok...mine doesn't plug and play
[08:11] <kingspawn> Phex: one ? is usually enough to mark your sentence as a question
[08:11] <Phex> sorry
[08:11] <kingspawn> Phex: i believe the answer is "no"
[08:11] <FLSimpsonKPT> how can i chmod files, folders in sudo?
[08:11] <FLSimpsonKPT> its for my webserver
[08:12] <kingspawn> FLSimpsonKPT: chmod -R does stuff recursively
[08:12] <roryy> arrick:   tar xf noip-duc-linux.tar
[08:12] <patrick24601> Prak: computer is plugged into router?
[08:12] <eobanb> nathanael, that's correct
[08:12] <roryy> arrick: um, tar.tar
[08:12] <EnsignRedshirt> Phex: No, but you can easily get it.
[08:12] <patrick24601> prak: Router is plugged into cmodem?
[08:12] <necromancer> marek_: I've tried it, too many bugs and crashes every other second :)
[08:12] <Prak> patrick24601: yes
[08:12] <nathanael> I have tried every major Linux distro, and I keep coming back to Ubuntu! :p
[08:12] <eobanb> nathanael, actually, more correctly, you just need a compositor
[08:12] <FLSimpsonKPT> kingspawn: i have SSH could you do it for me?
[08:12] <Prak> router is connected to adsl modem
[08:12] <marek_> oh gosh
[08:12] <marek_> that sucks
[08:12] <nathanael> Compviz?
[08:12] <FLSimpsonKPT> kingspawn: im rather confused
[08:12] <marek_> can i connect w/ cocoasql from my mac?
[08:12] <eobanb> nathanael, you can actually do true transparency without XGL, just with xcompmgr or another compositing manager
[08:12] <Prak> patrick24601: router is connected to adsl modem
[08:13] <patrick24601> DSL!
[08:13] <eobanb> nathanael, it's crude though
[08:13] <kingspawn> FLSimpsonKPT: im one of the good guys, so i probably could, but its usually not a good idea to invite people into your computer to do admin-stuff
[08:13] <patrick24601> Is there a router manual
[08:13] <kingspawn> FLSimpsonKPT: what exactly do you want to change?
[08:13] <eobanb> nathanael, and often slow
[08:13] <Prak> yes
[08:13] <FLSimpsonKPT> kingspawn: i have an apache server i want to get going
[08:13] <arrick> ok, it just tared once
[08:13] <FLSimpsonKPT> kingspawn: im trying to install php-fusion to it
[08:13] <kingspawn> FLSimpsonKPT: heh, it wan be tiresome
[08:13] <kingspawn> s/wan/can
[08:14] <patrick24601> I had that once a long time ago - the instructions were in the router manual
[08:14] <patrick24601> It is very DSL modem dependent
[08:14] <nathanael> Any Second Life fans in here?
[08:14] <kingspawn> FLSimpsonKPT: and now you need to chmod some files?
[08:15] <FLSimpsonKPT> kingspawn: yep in order for the install to work right
[08:15] <kingspawn> FLSimpsonKPT: okay, what permissions do you need to set?
[08:15] <nathanael> SL on Linux would rock
[08:15] <jmoncayo> had sombody use amule??
[08:15] <Prak> patrick24601: what kinds of stuff should i look for in the manual?
[08:15] <FLSimpsonKPT> kingspawn: did u get that other dialog box open yet?
[08:16] <nathanael> Recommended P2P client for Ubuntu?
[08:16] <kingspawn> FLSimpsonKPT: say what?
[08:16] <eobanb> nathanael, like gnutella?
[08:16] <nathanael> yes
[08:16] <eobanb> nathanael, SL probably runs on wine
[08:16] <jmoncayo> is it gui?
[08:16] <patrick24601> The router has to authenticate (userid/password) to the DSL modem
[08:16] <eobanb> nathanael, perhaps gtk-gnutella...i've also tried limewire, which works decently
[08:17] <jmoncayo> is limewire for linux?
[08:17] <nathanael> Does acquisition have a port to Linux?
[08:17] <eobanb> yes.
[08:17] <eobanb> nathanael, no.
[08:17] <Prak> patrick24601: does windows authenticate (userid/password) to the DSL modem automatically?
[08:17] <jmoncayo> eobanb, what about giFT
[08:17] <eobanb> jmoncayo, yes
[08:17] <FLSimpsonKPT> Kingspawn: http://www.doteasy.com/ToolsLibrary/tutorial/phpfusion.cfm
[08:17] <FLSimpsonKPT> kingspawn: thats what im trying to do
[08:18] <jmoncayo> eobanb, which one should i use or is the best of the three giFT amule limewire
[08:18] <nathanael> I successfully set up configured and joined to a domain my first corporate Linux server yesterday!! (I'm p-u-m-p-e-d)
[08:18] <jmoncayo> eobanb, or is there other better thwn those?
[08:18] <eobanb> honestly i dont know; limewire is a slight hassle to install but it works quite well
[08:18] <eobanb> jmoncayo, i'd try them and see what you think
[08:18] <kingspawn> FLSimpsonKPT: well, "sudo chmod -R 777 fusion_admin/db_backups" and all the other dirs should do you nicely
[08:18] <nathanael> What about eDonkey?
[08:18] <FLSimpsonKPT> kingspawn: k
[08:19] <arrick> anyone PANIC ATTACK, why when I typed 'sudo aptitude install build-essential" is it removing stuff?
[08:19] <FLSimpsonKPT> kingspawn: what about getting the mysql admin set up
[08:19] <arrick> its removing gnome for some reason?
[08:19] <eobanb> i'm not an authoritative source on this because i do my p2p on mac os x with transmission and cabos
[08:19] <FLSimpsonKPT> kingspawn: i dont know how to do that i have it thou
[08:19] <jmoncayo> eobanb, i am installing amule hope is good
[08:19] <kingspawn> FLSimpsonKPT: no idea
[08:19] <kingspawn> arrick: now aint that special
[08:20] <eobanb> arrick, dont know, i dont use aptitude
[08:20] <kingspawn> arrick: haha, what exactly is it saying that it is removing?
[08:20] <arrick> yeah I am panicing badly, I just got the server setup
[08:20] <kingspawn> arrick: and why not just apt-get?
[08:20] <Almindor> hi peeps
[08:20] <arrick> everything with the name gnome
[08:20] <Almindor> drapper with compiz is nice :)
[08:20] <kingspawn> arrick: score :)
[08:20] <EnsignRedshirt> arrick: I guess it figures if your a developer, you don't need no fancy-pants desktop.
[08:20] <EnsignRedshirt> *your'e
[08:20] <EnsignRedshirt> *you're
[08:20] <nathanael> Is there a way to search the repositories from the command-line?
[08:20] <EnsignRedshirt> jeez
[08:20] <arrick> kingspawn, easier to remove packages if you install with aptitude
[08:20] <kingspawn> nathanael: apt-cache search <whatever>
[08:21] <eobanb> nathanael, yes, edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:21] <nathanael> thanks
[08:21] <eobanb> nathanael, oh, sorry, misread
[08:21] <NickGarvey> if I install something by source, how do I delete it?
[08:21] <nathanael> s'ok
[08:21] <kingspawn> arrick: hm, well, i've no idea, never used aptitude
[08:21] <eobanb> why would it be easier to remove packages with aptitude
[08:22] <eobanb> installing with aptitude is just installing with apt-get
[08:22] <tonyyarusso> NickGarvey: If you used 'make install' and still have the source, 'make uninstall', if you use checkinstall then you remove it like any other package.
[08:22] <wezzer> so, how close is dapper drake's release?-)
[08:22] <tonyyarusso> eobanb: But it keeps track of things smarter so it can remove metapackages.
[08:22] <eobanb> wezzer, about a month off
[08:22] <wezzer> okay
[08:23] <arrick> kingspawn, and now th stupid pastebin is messing up, wont send, just resets
[08:23] <kingspawn> arrick: calm the panic, it'll all be good :)
[08:23] <arrick> i hope so
[08:24] <lulu1> hi how can i disable framebuffering ? thanks
[08:24] <eobanb> lulu1, ...?
[08:25] <eobanb> lulu1, can you be more specific
[08:25] <rambo3> buy xorg or buy kernel
[08:25] <lulu1> well i've install easyubuntu and it has activated the framebuffer mode
[08:25] <winston> I had a weird thing happen to my user interface-- I tried plugging in a monitor in the slot hoping to have dual screen like osx does automatically with powerbooks (im using a 1999 pb ) and it didnt work at all, it boot on the monitor but I couldnt see anything on my laptop screen and then my task back started appearing in the middle of the screen when I rebooted, I rebooted again, checked the menus, but found nothing usefull, I deleted
[08:25] <winston> the task bar (the one on the bootom and now its gone even after a reboot, does anyone know a quick fix for this, and how to get two screens on there if at all possible!?
[08:26] <Kyynara_> is there a way for me to be able to get libcurl 7.15.1 for breezy, it's meant for dapper
[08:26] <eobanb> lulu1, i dont touch easyubuntu and crap like it with a ten-foot pole
[08:26] <sontek> Hey, I did apt-get install monodevelop and I was playing with it and it crashed, and now it wont open and it says "Please reinstall" in console.. But when I apt-get remove && apt-get install it doesn't fix it
[08:26] <Marineboy> g'morning
[08:26] <NickGarvey> tonyyarusso: thank you very much
[08:26] <eobanb> winston, newsflash, ubuntu != mac os x
[08:26] <kingspawn> sontek: try apt-get --purge remove
[08:26] <lulu1> Well the thing is the system boot with framebuffer ON and i want to set it OFF ... like with a default install .... any tips ?
[08:27] <bjorn_> what does wine mean with
[08:27] <bjorn_> bjorn@ubuntu:~$ wine CD
[08:27] <bjorn_> wine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\CD.exe": Module not found
[08:27] <NickGarvey> !tell bjorn_ about wine
[08:27] <sontek> kingspawn, that didn't work either
[08:27] <rambo3> bjrn what is CD?
[08:28] <Carpa> patrick24601: should i be installing the driver for the ethernet card first?
[08:28] <arrick> kingspawn, I am trying to use the 'sudo make' command, and it wont let me why?
[08:28] <bjorn_> i dont know, i tried to run my cdplayer, because there's a windows game in it
[08:28] <sontek> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/g6gJIc45.html   thats the error i'm getting
[08:28] <NickGarvey> arrick: apt-get install make?
[08:28] <bjorn_> or is that wrong?
[08:28] <winston> eoband not news to me... why doesnt it support two monitors? and why does it screw up the task bar positioning?
[08:29] <arrick> NickGarvey, I did the aptitude install build-essential, shouldnt that install make as well?
[08:29] <NickGarvey> winston: google it
[08:29] <NickGarvey> arrick: yes..
[08:29] <bjorn_> rambo3?
[08:29] <arrick> NickGarvey, what do I have to do to egt it working?
[08:29] <rambo3> ok you need full path to your cd like wine "/media/cdrom0/ " to exec the game
[08:29] <NickGarvey> arrick: "which make"
[08:29] <Kyynara_> is there a way for me to be able to get libcurl 7.15.1 for breezy? It's meant for dapper and the version available for breezy is 7.14.x
[08:29] <bjorn_> ok ill try
[08:30] <arrick> NickGarvey, I am using the no-ip client and it says to make, then make install, to put everything in the right directory
[08:31] <NickGarvey> arrick: enable universe and multiverse, "apt-get install no-ip"
[08:31] <NickGarvey> arrick: that easy heh
[08:31] <arrick> I didnt know that, I already have the uni and multi enabled thanks
[08:31] <NickGarvey> :)
[08:31] <bjorn_> rambo3 i typed sudo wine /media/cdrom0/autorun.exe and i got a long list of errors
[08:32] <bicky> anybody got experience with WoW on ubuntu ?
[08:33] <winston> NickGarvey: I tried that, its why im here
[08:33] <cdsa> who ?
[08:33] <NickGarvey> winston: with what?
[08:33] <cdsa> salut le subuntu
[08:33] <pepo> anybody has a howto for configure wifi card broadcom ?
[08:33] <KNO3> Hi, when trying to build wine from source using APT, 'apt-get --build source wine' stops with error "checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[08:33] <KNO3> " "Build command 'cd wine-0.9.11~winehq1 && dpkg-buildpackage -b -uc' failed."
[08:33] <NickGarvey> winston: oh googling it
[08:34] <bjorn_> rambo3?
[08:34] <winston> NickGarvey: I tried "ubuntu lost taskbar"
[08:34] <arrick> NickGarvey, not working, ca you check this out?
[08:34] <bicky> nobody gots experience with WoW on ubuntu ?
[08:34] <arrick>   NickGarvey  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12325
[08:34] <kingspawn> arrick: just type make
[08:34] <kingspawn> arrick: to check that make exists at all
[08:35] <arrick> not found
[08:35] <arrick> great, the install didnt work
[08:35] <kingspawn> well, then you didnt install build-essential
[08:35] <scifi> OMG looks like ive just fucked up my ubuntu install already :*((
[08:35] <EnsignRedshirt> bjorn_: I don't know how to get your game working, but you might also try asking in #winehq.
[08:35] <bjorn_> oh ok thx
[08:36] <NickGarvey> arrick: you don't have universe and multiverse on
[08:36] <scifi> i was trying the resolution/refresh rate fixes, did control-alt-backspace and now x-server is disabled
[08:36] <mac> hi.. I upgraded from breezy to dapper, and my sound broke.. Basically the sound is still there, but the volume is way too low (everything is attached correctly), it worked 30 mins ago.. any Clues?
[08:36] <scifi> HHEEEEEELPP
[08:36] <crimsun> mac: #ubuntu+1
[08:36] <NickGarvey> !tell mac about dapper
[08:36] <ubuntu> h
[08:36] <Ube> hi
[08:36] <NickGarvey> !tell scifi about caps
[08:36] <bjorn_> its godfather the game, does that matter ensignredshirt?
[08:36] <bjorn_> is it too new or something
[08:37] <KNO3> i have installed build-essential, the latest version, and it makes no difference
[08:37] <NickGarvey> arrick: need to go
[08:37] <NickGarvey> adios
[08:37] <EnsignRedshirt> bjorn_: Sorry, that means nothing to me.
[08:37] <rambo3> !tell bjorn_ about cedega
[08:37] <Coweater> if apt reports a package was not fully installed or removed, how do i find out which package it is?
[08:37] <bjorn_> oh ok :p
[08:37] <arrick> kingspawn, ok, I need help getting the ()$#$ sources list setup correct, its corrupted somehow, please help
[08:37] <scifi> sorry for being rude, but ive just made a big mess of my brand new ubuntu install :~(
[08:37] <bicky> !tell bicky about WoW
[08:38] <rambo3> apt-get install -t
[08:38] <bicky> !tell bicky about wine
[08:38] <ubuntu> hello
[08:38] <Ube> well i've a fresh install of breezy, i modified a bit the grub conf and now it does not show the menu list anymore any tips ? my grub conf is paste here thanks  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12327
[08:39] <hollowman8904> can someone help me access my linux share from windows?  i can't login
[08:39] <scifi> can anyone help?
[08:39] <rambo3> scifi just ask the wuestion , not you whole history
[08:40] <scifi> i was trying the resolution/refresh rate fixes, did control-alt-backspace and now x-server is disabled
[08:40] <kingspawn> arrick: i have to take care of something, i can help in a little while
[08:40] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> Anyone here ever installed Skype?
[08:40] <Phex> i've a problem with my dir
[08:40] <rambo3> scifi :and alt+f7 , anyway you find x and kill it and then start it again
[08:41] <jmoncayo> how can i see a *.chm file??
[08:41] <Pordos> i suddenly don't have permissions to access my usb key drive when i plug it in.  anyone know what i can do to change that?
[08:41] <scifi> ok will try
[08:41] <KNO3> Hi, when trying to build wine from source using APT, 'apt-get --build source wine' stops with error "checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[08:41] <KNO3> " "Build command 'cd wine-0.9.11~winehq1 && dpkg-buildpackage -b -uc' failed."
[08:41] <KNO3> i have installed build-essential, the latest version, and it makes no difference
[08:41] <hollowman8904> how do i install smbmnt?  i'm trying to use linneighborhood, but it says smbmnt must be installed first
[08:41] <arrick> !repos
[08:41] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[08:41] <rambo3> sudo ps -d , will list processes , and just ype sudo kill "process id" and startx or sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[08:43] <scifi> rambo3: i get the message "the x server is now disabled, restart gdm when its configured properly" only option i have i to press OK
[08:43] <Phex> hello i've problems with my direction
[08:43] <mendred> Ube: Was ur modification the splashimage entry?
[08:43] <bicky> any1 has played WoW on ubuntu ?
[08:43] <xbox_sky> if i'm about to tell gmailchecker use "opera" instead of konqueror, how would I find the file that executes the application?
[08:44] <hollowman8904> can someone help me connect to my linux share from windows?  i have a problem logiging in
[08:44] <rambo3> type ok and then startx in terminal
[08:44] <xbox_sky> ega, where is it located? locate opera will give me tons of locations, but where is the path usually found that executes the app?
[08:44] <EnsignRedshirt> xbox_sky: Probably /usr/bin/opera ?
[08:45] <arrick> anyone, please help me get the corect sources.list, cause the ones that ubotu connects to are incorrect, they wont update
[08:46] <mendred> Ube: it should be splashimage=(hd0,1)/boot/grub/splash/tux.xpm.gz
[08:46] <clem_yeats> can Firefox use sendmail instead of an SMTP server ?
[08:46] <clem_yeats> sorry.. I meant thunderbird..
[08:47] <arrick> Why with the official repos, can I not get any sources to stat?
[08:47] <arrick> _jason, you here?
[08:47] <xbox_sky> ah gotcha tx EnsignRedshirt
[08:48] <clem_yeats> is there an easy to use smtp server .. minimal one ?
[08:49] <mebaran151> if I put related controllers in a module
[08:49] <mebaran151> say I have an Model Controller, so I have Model::This and Model::That
[08:49] <arrick> AAA, ar eyou here?
[08:49] <mebaran151> how can I can make a default action this is called when plain ol' Model is called
[08:49] <ubuntu> Hi, I seem to be having  a problem when trying to update - getting the error "Waiting for headers" then it seems to freeze
[08:50] <mebaran151> my url /module/blah
[08:50] <mebaran151> I want /module/ to load a simple navigation page
[08:50] <arrick> nickrud, you here?
[08:50] <mebaran151> do I create an index controller or something?
[08:50] <EnsignRedshirt> mebaran151: Are in the right place?
[08:50] <mebaran151> hmm?
[08:51] <arrick> HELP PLEASE???????????
[08:51] <mebaran151> yeah I think so
[08:51] <EnsignRedshirt> mebaran151: *Are you
[08:51] <mebaran151> oh
[08:51] <mebaran151> whoops
[08:51] <mebaran151> sorry
[08:51] <bjorn_> what do i put before /cdrom0/
[08:51] <EnsignRedshirt> :)
[08:51] <arrick> dev
[08:51] <arrick>  /dev
[08:51] <arrick> EnsignRedshirt, are you good with repos?
[08:52] <arrick> !smtp
[08:52] <ubotu> arrick: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:52] <rambo3> mountpoint like /media/  bjorn_ and the
[08:52] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> using ls....how do I open a txt file
[08:52] <EnsignRedshirt> bjorn_: On my computer, it's /media/cdrom0
[08:52] <rambo3> then read some more about wine
[08:52] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> via cli not gui
[08:52] <arrick> UbuntuNoob|Scott, nano or gedit
[08:52] <Iikori> can some1 help me to install PC card to ubuntu
[08:52] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> thx
[08:52] <EnsignRedshirt> arrick: Nothing special, I  just use 'em.
[08:52] <arrick> np
[08:52] <Iikori> osaako joku auttaa PC-kortin asentamisessa
[08:53] <arrick> EnsignRedshirt, mine are corrupted, and the ones ubotu says to use will not update, anyhelp here?
[08:53] <Iikori> can some1 help me to install PC card to ubuntu msg me
[08:53] <scifi> rambo3: both command wont work, gdm restart sails [fail] 
[08:53] <scifi> says*
[08:53] <rambo3> scifi kill it
[08:53] <EnsignRedshirt> arrick: What do you mean by "yours"?
[08:53] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> anyone using an AMD64 with Ubuntu?
[08:53] <Mesh> tach
[08:53] <bjorn_> thx
[08:53] <arrick> my sources.list
[08:53] <rambo3> or stop it
[08:53] <arrick> EnsignRedshirt, ^^
[08:54] <scifi> rambo3: sudo kill "process id"?
[08:54] <rambo3> yeah sudo ps -d |grep gdm
[08:54] <Iikori> can some1 help me to install PC card to ubuntu msg me
[08:55] <EnsignRedshirt> arrick: So you need to fix sources.list?
[08:55] <arrick> EnsignRedshirt, yes
[08:55] <rambo3> !tell arrick about sources.list
[08:56] <arrick> hey rambo3 already did all that and apt-get wont update using the examples, or even the easysource one
[08:56] <echo> hey all
[08:56] <echo> how do i go about installing flash????
[08:57] <EnsignRedshirt> What the--??? I have to register in ubuntu forums just to search???
[08:57] <Coweater> 5.10 on a imac dv, sits still on nautilus loading after login
[08:57] <rambo3> arrick : apt-get clean && apt-get install -t
[08:57] <bjorn_> guildwars *O*
[08:57] <Iikori> can some1 help me to install PC card to ubuntu msg me
[08:57] <scifi> rambo3: did sudo ps -d |grep gdm, then startx, still not working
[08:57] <hollowman8904> why do i get "command not found" when trying to do /etc/rc.d/init.d/smb restart
[08:58] <rambo3> and the error is scifi ?
[08:58] <jafar00> hi
[08:58] <arrick> rambo3, option -t requires an arguement
[08:58] <simon> hallowman: /etc/init.d/smb restart
[08:58] <jafar00> does anyone have repositories for ubuntu amd64 plf?
[08:58] <EnsignRedshirt> That's just seems incredibly stupid to require registration even to search the forum.
[08:59] <arrick> !repos
[08:59] <bjorn_> how do i force my cd to open? it wont open and i need to switch to another cd
[08:59] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[08:59] <green_earz> hollowman8904: or sudo invoke-rc.d smb restart
[08:59] <arrick> !easysource
[08:59] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[08:59] <arrick> jafar00, ^^
[08:59] <Klick_> can anyone recomend me a good music manager, looking for eye candy galor
[08:59] <Shamaho> bjorn_, try  unmounting the device?
[08:59] <jafar00> nice :)
[08:59] <hollowman8904> green_earz, unknown init script
[08:59] <scifi> rambo3: X10: fatal 10 error 104 connection reset by peer ...... it goes on
[09:00] <EnsignRedshirt> arrick: I *was* going to do a quick search for sources.list in the ubuntu forums, because I know you can find an assortment of examples there.
[09:00] <arrick> EnsignRedshirt, ok
[09:00] <green_earz> hollowman8904: cd into /etc/init.d   and then ls  so you can see what servers are there
[09:00] <bjorn_> shamaho it works
[09:00] <bjorn_> ty
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[09:00] <rambo3> sifi maby its your xorg.conf ? did you try restarting ?
[09:00] <roryy> sigh
[09:01] <crimsun> grr.
[09:01] <crimsun> fools.
[09:01] <arrick> someone want to bane the spammet?
[09:01] <crimsun> arrick: no point now.
[09:01] <hollowman8904> green_earz, smb isn't
[09:01] <arrick> he'll be bakc i 3 days
[09:01] <EnsignRedshirt> arrick: That source-o-matic might work, too.
[09:01] <user__> quit
[09:01] <arrick> EnsignRedshirt, is that easysource?
[09:01] <zyga> hello
[09:01] <scifi> rambo3:i made a backup of the xorg.conf, is it possible to reload it?
[09:02] <scifi> rambo3: i ahve tried rebooting, but x-server still disabled
[09:02] <ScrIptureZ> buonasera a tutti
[09:02] <Iikori> can some1 help me to install PC card to ubuntu msg me
[09:02] <inv_Arp> error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5.. of course since im running .so.6 ...   symlinking doesnt work...    iis there a compat-libstdc++-  like in fedora in the archives..
[09:02] <rambo3> yes you can allways sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.cof.backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf  .
[09:03] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> ok
[09:03] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> i just screwed up
[09:03] <scifi> ok will try
[09:03] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> im at my root i think
[09:03] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> and when i do a ls
[09:03] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> i only get 2 folders
[09:03] <EnsignRedshirt> arrick: Try it (the source-o-matic link provided by ubotu).  Stick to the top few repos supported by Ubuntu.
[09:03] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> desktop and downloads
[09:03] <scifi> rambo3: is that all on one line?
[09:03] <arrick> they wont update, I just tried them
[09:04] <ubuntu_> www.ri77ualdelkaoz.org
[09:04] <ubuntu_> Awuante mexico es ubuntu
[09:04] <ubuntu_> Mxico es ubuntu
[09:04] <green_earz> hollowman8904: so that why unknown init script    is it samba you want to restart iand is it in /etc/init.d    sudo invoke-rc.d samba restart
[09:04] <simon> UbuntuNoob|Scott: your not at root then, you're at your home
[09:05] <ubuntu_> Como le puedo hacer para que ubuntu reprodusca wmv ????
[09:05] <Iikori> can some1 help me to install PC card to ubuntu msg me
[09:05] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> damn
[09:05] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> your right
[09:05] <rambo3> sscifi its just an exemple i dont know how you saved your file , just do cd /etc/x11/ and then list files . sudo cp "backup file " xorg.conf
[09:05] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> i see the location in the title bar
[09:05] <hollowman8904> there that one worked
[09:05] <EnsignRedshirt> arrick: Those are the same hosts as in my sources.list (us.archive.ubuntu.com), and I was able to do an update a few minutes ago.
[09:05] <simon> UbuntuNoob|Scott: you can't always trust that, only trust the command pwd
[09:05] <arrick> man iave tried them ten or 11 times,,
[09:06] <arrick> how do I ping googole, so I can make sure my connetion is uo for internet?
[09:06] <mac> ping www.google.com
[09:06] <kingspawn> arrick: ping www.google.com
[09:06] <jpatrick> arrick: ping google.com -c 1
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[09:06] <arrick> no host
[09:07] <arrick> kingspawn, ping: unknown host www.google.com
[09:07] <green_earz> hollowman8904: all your boot start up scripts are in /etc/init.d and to start or stop them us sudo invoke-rc.d  server-name start or stop or restart
[09:07] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> ls
[09:07] <Bergcube> " Measure distance to target.  ONE PING ONLY! "  -Sean Connery in Hunt for red october.
[09:07] <kingspawn> arrick: whats the problem? i just got back
[09:07] <Shamaho> x
[09:07] <scifi> rambo3: sorry how do i list files?
[09:07] <mac> arrick: cat /etc/resolv.conf
[09:08] <BBHoss> sounds like dns
[09:08] <arrick> I cant get the repos to update afte ri did the install of build-essential and it uninstalled gnome
[09:08] <mac> your dns servers are not correct, most likley
[09:08] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> im in /home/sdv
[09:08] <Iikori> can some1 help me to install PC card to ubuntu msg me
[09:08] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> and do an ls - I see desktop and downloads
[09:08] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> thats it
[09:08] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> and I cant cd to either of them
[09:08] <rambo3> scifi:  cd /etc/X11/  && ls -l |grep xorg
[09:08] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> should i be able to?
[09:09] <kingspawn> arrick: has the comp still got an ip? does your /etc/resolv.conf look right?
[09:09] <Davey> How best to determine where my HD space is allocated so I can delete crap? :)
[09:09] <kingspawn> UbuntuNoob|Scott: remember Case Sensitive
[09:09] <EnsignRedshirt> arrick: Good luck, time for me to go.
[09:09] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> tried that
[09:09] <kingspawn> UbuntuNoob|Scott: cd Desktop, not cd desktop
[09:09] <clem_yeats> ok, I've found out.. sendmail is simply listening on port 25.. no authorization required.
[09:09] <bjorn_> how come there shows an icon on my desktop when i put a cd in my laptop
[09:09] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> ok
[09:09] <arrick> kingspawn/ mac:$ cat /etc/resolv.conf # Dynamic resolv.conf(5) file for glibc resolver(3) generated by resolvconf(8)#     DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND -- YOUR CHANGES WILL BE OVERWRITTEN
[09:09] <bjorn_> and whats useful about that
[09:09] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> so why do I do it WO a / this time
[09:09] <mac> If that is all, you have no dns servers installed
[09:09] <mac> Enter your network configuration tool, and set up some
[09:10] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> to get to directories i have to do /tmp
[09:10] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> but to get to desktop i dont use /
[09:10] <simon> UbuntuNoob|Scott: when you start with a / you go to the top directory
[09:10] <arrick> I use my isp dns
[09:10] <simon> UbuntuNoob|Scott: try cd / and then ls
[09:10] <hollowman8904> in windows, how do i change my login name after i have already logged into a share?  i logged in once and want to change users, but i dont know how
[09:10] <kingspawn> UbuntuNoob|Scott: a / is sort of a delimiter. / means "the root of your disk" - so tmp is located just one level up from /, ie /tmp
[09:10] <arrick> kingspawn, mac, what next
[09:10] <arrick> ?
[09:10] <simon> UbuntuNoob|Scott: you could also, for instance do cd /home/sdv/Desktop
[09:10] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> oh
[09:10] <mac> arrick: did you setup dns servers?
[09:10] <kingspawn> arrick: whats this resolvconf and glibc resolver? never used it
[09:10] <arrick> nope
[09:10] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> so if im in home, and I want to go to tmp, i use /
[09:10] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> to say "back out"
[09:10] <mac> Do so, then
[09:10] <arrick> mac
[09:11] <simon> UbuntuNoob|Scott: exactly
[09:11] <arrick> how
[09:11] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> rgr
[09:11] <kingspawn> UbuntuNoob|Scott: yes, you use / to indicate you are going to the root (/) and from there into tmp
[09:11] <mac> I don't use ubuntu.. go to the settings, and network settings.. somewhere, in there, You can setup dns servers
[09:11] <xbox_sky> http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v32/Skynet/?action=view&current=mdesk.jpg         My Linux destkop  ^_^
[09:11] <arrick> mac, how?
[09:11] <rambo3> xbox_sky, you can post that in ubuntu forums
[09:11] <xbox_sky> aight
[09:12] <scifi> rambo3: ok i typed in sudo cp xorg.conf.backup and it said missing destination file
[09:12] <arrick> mac kingspawn brb
[09:12] <mac> arrick: *I do not have ubuntu installed*, so I dont know how to enter your network settings. RTFM, please..
[09:12] <mac> *sigh*
[09:12] <harobed> hi, there are screencast to introduce Ubuntu ?
[09:12] <rambo3> scifi : sudo cp xorg.conf.backup xorg.conf
[09:12] <bjorn_> I have installed a game using wine, where did it install?
[09:12] <Iikori> which1 is better..normal linux or ubuntu
[09:12] <harobed> It's for ubuntu manifestation stand
[09:12] <void^> Iikori: please explain what normal linux is.
[09:12] <Iikori> dunno :D
[09:13] <Bergcube> Iikori~  Chances are everyone in here will answer "Ubuntu".....
[09:13] <kingspawn> Iikori: like everything else in life, it depends on what you want to do with it
[09:13] <scifi> rambo3:ok it accpeted the command, now try startx again?
[09:13] <rambo3> yes
[09:14] <Bergcube> Iikori~  It's like asking fundamentalistic catholics if the pope is a nice dude.
[09:14] <bjorn_> I have installed a game using wine, where did it install?
[09:14] <rambo3> if you are a root i would start gdm and if not startx works ok
[09:14] <Iikori> what is command to change language english
[09:15] <scifi> rambo3: get same fatal 10 error doing startx
[09:15] <rambo3> !tell scifi about fixres
[09:15] <saik0> Iikori, Ubuntu is a GNU/Linux Distribution. Linux is just the kernel, ubuntu packages many, many things with it
[09:15] <scifi> rambo3: does mention for help view log at /var/etc..
[09:15] <Iikori> ok
[09:15] <Iikori> what is command to change language english
[09:15] <bjorn_> I have installed a game using wine, where did it install?
[09:16] <stpere> bjorn_, look in ~/.c_drive
[09:16] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> is there a Wine channel?
[09:16] <stpere> bjorn_,  ~ being your home directory
[09:16] <scifi> rambo3: yes thats the page where i was working from that caused all this
[09:16] <arrick> ok im back
[09:17] <scifi> rambo3: it got me into the x-server configuration, and i probly messed things up in there
[09:17] <saik0> UbuntuNoob|Scott, #wine
[09:17] <rambo3> scifi  ok you would have to do cat /var/log/xorg |grep (EE) <- just exemple i dont know the file name you would have to list it. anyway try fixres again and choose vesa as you graphic driver
[09:17] <saik0> UbuntuNoob|Scott, sorry, #winehq
[09:18] <arrick> kingspawn, Im back
[09:18] <kingspawn> arrick: okay
[09:18] <arrick> I booted to ubuntu so I can ssh in
[09:18] <scifi> rambo3: so try this autodetect script first?
[09:18] <kingspawn> arrick: well, eh, what was the problem? no dns? do you know your dns servers? can you have it get a dhcp-ip?
[09:18] <arrick> btu I still need help with the dns stuff, cant remember the other guys name now though
[09:19] <arrick> kingspawn, I have it set to static ip cause its a webserver
[09:19] <rambo3> yeah skip that
[09:19] <kingspawn> arrick: well, then you have to set the dns static in resolv.conf too
[09:19] <rambo3> just use vesa its like "safe driver"
[09:19] <rambo3> or nv
[09:19] <arrick> ok, can you walk me through it?
[09:20] <scifi> i used nv before
[09:20] <UbuntuNewbie> hello everyone
[09:20] <bjorn_> is there a way to install directx8 in ubuntu?
[09:20] <kingspawn> arrick: well, if you have your dns server you just add "nameserver <ip>" to resolv.conf
[09:20] <scifi> rambo3: try sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf 1st?
[09:21] <rambo3> sudo vi  /etc/X11/xorg.conf  , i never used nor use nano
[09:21] <lkz> Hey, is there a tty tool which will list all my hardware? cpu freq, amount of memory, etc ?
[09:21] <arrick> kingspawn, why does it tell me my changes will be over written
[09:22] <kingspawn> arrick: well, i have no idea never, seen that stuff before. just add it and see what happens
[09:22] <kingspawn> arrick: is that warning all there is in your resolv.conf?
[09:22] <arrick> kingspawn, yse
[09:22] <simon> lkz: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[09:22] <arrick> yes
[09:22] <kingspawn> arrick: then just delete it and add your nameserver-line(s)
[09:23] <arrick> and how do I determin the nameserver line?
[09:23] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> you know, the guys in #winehq are no help.
[09:23] <void^> if you use dhcp, just run dhclient or dhcpcd on your interface and it'll fix it.
[09:23] <rambo3> sicif in vi you press " i " for editing and "shift+: " and then "wq + enter" for wite and quit
[09:23] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> they told me to go elseware and get ubuntu help
[09:23] <kingspawn> arrick: now thats the question. are you in an ubuntu box with working networking now? if so, just check /etc/resolv.conf
[09:23] <tombo_> please, can someone tell me how to edit a user account from the terminal.  I can not do system changes in gui
[09:23] <theinternet> Hey, I was wondering, I tried install swf-player, libflash-swfplayer, and libflash-mozplugin. It installed, but when I view swfs like on homestarrunner.com, it gives me alot of wierd glitchs in viewing the swf.
[09:24] <scifi> rambo3: all the setting in the file for monitor + vid card look correct
[09:24] <bjorn_> how do i use a .patch file
[09:24] <theinternet> Is there anyway I could install a flash player for an AMD 64bit computer?
[09:24] <rambo3> scifi most of my x org error got from wrong mouse settings .
[09:25] <rambo3> anyway i have to go now,
[09:25] <scifi> rambo3:i remember it asked me what PCIbus my card was, and because i didnt know i accpeted the default, cud that be wrong?
[09:25] <jmoncayo> theinternet, do you have amd64 laptop or desktop?
[09:25] <theinternet> Desktop.
[09:26] <scifi> infact i thought my card was agp ^^
[09:26] <Iikori> can some1 help me to install PC card to ubuntu msg me
[09:26] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> can someone please help me install Wine properly?
[09:26] <jmoncayo> theinternet, ok i have an amd64 notebook and i gave up with the 64bit and installed i386
[09:27] <Iikori> what is command to change language english
[09:27] <Iikori> can some1 help me to install PC card to ubuntu msg me
[09:27] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> jmoncayo, good to hear you say that, i was going to try the 64bit, but im on i386 too
[09:27] <marsh> hiya! II've got 2 pc's with wireless cards - can anyone tell me if theres a way to make them 'crossover' or do I have to get a router?
[09:27] <theinternet> ffff not excatly what I was looking for. You can chroot i386 applications you know. :-\
[09:27] <s|k>  /join #mysql
[09:27] <s|k> oops
[09:27] <jmoncayo> UbuntuNoob|Scott, yea it is just too much trouble getting everything to work
[09:28] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> I hear SuSe is easier than Ubuntu, anyone tried it?
[09:28] <jmoncayo> theinternet, yes you can but when you need some programs like ndiswrapper it doesnt work
[09:28] <hollowman8904> what should i use to have an FTP server?
[09:28] <theinternet> Actually, ndiswrapper does work for me under AMD64.
[09:28] <jmoncayo> theinternet, like you dont have the usbcore module
[09:28] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> My friend says it installs everything for you and its so brainless
[09:28] <kingspawn> hollowman8904: proftpd, for instance
[09:28] <Iikori> please can some1 how to install pc card..need internet connection but no skill to install card
[09:28] <arrick> hey its updating now, anyone know how to make it to where it wont change the /etc/resolv.conf file?
[09:28] <carolin> test
[09:29] <jmoncayo> theinternet, i had so much trouble getting to work the wireless
[09:29] <kingspawn> arrick: well, try rebooting the box and check if its changed it
[09:29] <theinternet> I've been able to install almost everything including my wireless Atheros card, and Wine. Only problem I ran into is this flash player.
[09:29] <carolin> bye
[09:29] <jmoncayo> UbuntuNoob|Scott, do you have 64bit laptop?
[09:29] <arrick> I odnt event think so
[09:29] <marsh> hello? - can anyone tell me if theres a way to make 2 wireless cards talk without a router?
[09:29] <bjorn_> how do i get directx8 or 9 in linux?
[09:30] <scifi> rambo3:i had also chose pc105 for my keyboard layout and dont know if thats right either
[09:30] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> jmoncayo, tower
[09:30] <theinternet> Bjorn: You don't, you get wine.
[09:30] <arrick> maybe I can get the build essential to work now, the sudo apt-get install no-ip wont work
[09:30] <jmoncayo> theinternet, i couldnt install my broadcom bcm4306
[09:30] <void^> marsh: called adhoc mode
[09:30] <jmoncayo> oki
[09:30] <fiveiron> anyone know how to install mplayer?
[09:30] <fiveiron> what repositories do i need?
[09:30] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> Help: Need someone to assist with installing Wine properly. I am not sure I have it running properly
[09:30] <simonpca_> bonjour! | hi!
[09:30] <simonpca> bonjour! | hi!
[09:30] <bjorn_> theinternet, i have installed guildwars using wine, but it still asks for directx
[09:31] <jmoncayo> what is wine for?
[09:31] <theinternet> Bjorn: Strange. If you go to their website, they may have more information.
[09:31] <marsh> void^: thanks mate - i'll get on it.
[09:31] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> jmoncayo,  to install windows based software
[09:31] <slavik> !wine
[09:31] <Iikori> how I can change user on console to root
[09:31] <bjorn_> theinternet, guildwars wasnt made for linux, does that matter
[09:31] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> jmoncayo, its a windows api emulator
[09:31] <jmoncayo> UbuntuNoob|Scott, is it good?
[09:31] <arrick> ok now its installine
[09:31] <theinternet> Bjorn: No. Wine is made to run windows apps.
[09:32] <arrick> thanks kingspawn
[09:32] <bjorn_> ok :) thx
[09:32] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> jmoncayo, I don't know, this is my first time using Linux
[09:32] <kingspawn> arrick: nice
[09:32] <highvoltage> UbuntuNoob|Scott: it's a windows api re-write, not an emulator!
[09:32] <jmoncayo> oki
[09:32] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> highvoltage, sorry...
[09:32] <highvoltage> UbuntuNoob|Scott: np :)
[09:32] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> highvoltage, all the same to me...it just makes sh*t work! :)
[09:32] <jmoncayo> can you run win games if you install wine, have somebody done it , did it work
[09:32] <highvoltage> :)
[09:33] <jafar00> a lot of games that dont run on wine run with cedega. I use cedega to play Anarchy Online
[09:33] <arrick> kingspawn, now that I know about that, on the rare ocassions that the server needs rebooted i will keep a text file to set it with
[09:34] <hollowman8904> how do i configure proftpd
[09:34] <theinternet> Eh, Cedega costs money though.
[09:34] <fiveiron> not the cvs
[09:34] <kingspawn> arrick: i'd reboot it a couple of times now during setup to check if it gets changed
[09:34] <jmoncayo> jafar00, can you run the lord of the rings with that?
[09:34] <jafar00> theinternet: Yes, but worth it. Just dont renew the subscription until you really need a newer version
[09:34] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> jmoncayo, yes, some of them...thats why i need it for World of Warcraft and Steam (HL) based games.
[09:35] <arrick> nah its working right now, and I dont reboot unless I absolutely have to
[09:35] <jmoncayo> ok,
[09:35] <jerry_> i have a question anyone ever load windows through wine?
[09:35] <theinternet> Eh, I have windows on a dual boot. I figure it would probably be best just to leave games in Windows and everything else in Linux.
[09:35] <kingspawn> arrick: lets hope you wont regret it later.
[09:35] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> jerry_, nope - but im going to try vmware to load it.
[09:36] <jafar00> jerry_: No. But I run windows through vmware. Costly but I needed it for forex trading work
[09:36] <UbuntuNewbie> yes its best to be in dual boot
[09:36] <jmoncayo> think so
[09:36] <jerry_> well xp wont dual boot
[09:36] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> dualboot sucks
[09:36] <jerry_> tried that already
[09:36] <theinternet> Yes it will.
[09:36] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> jerry_, yes it will
[09:36] <simon> hollowman8904: try man proftpd
[09:36] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> problem with dual boot is just that, you have to reboot to get to the other OS
[09:36] <dino_> grub loader??
[09:36] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> VMware lets you run both at the same time
[09:36] <Iikori> how I can change normal user to root on console
[09:37] <jerry_> yea useing grub
[09:37] <Iikori> some1 please answer me
[09:37] <volley> Ok so I got this jerkoff roomate who likes to unplug me from the networkand every time he does I cant get back online untill I reboot. so is there any way to get reconnected without rebooting?
[09:37] <bjorn_> what happens if i download directx on microsoft and use it with wine?
[09:37] <Iikori> what is command to that
[09:37] <jafar00> bjorn_: It probably wont work
[09:37] <simon> volley: try dhcpd (I'm not sure of spelling)
[09:37] <bjorn_> why not?
[09:37] <UbuntuNewbie> doesn't VMware requires a lot of RAM and fast CPU
[09:37] <Iikori> how I can change normal user to root on console
[09:37] <bjorn_> ikori use su
[09:37] <Xenguy> Iikori: sudo -i
[09:37] <jerry_> depends on its version but my wines good to dxc or atleast compatible with it
[09:37] <jpatrick> sudo -s
[09:38] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> UbuntuNewbie, not sure...but I have it anyway :)
[09:38] <jerry_> dx9c
[09:38] <jafar00> UbuntuNewbie: I have an AMD 2200+ and 1gb and I just give windoze 256mb and it runs just like native
[09:38] <jmoncayo> jerry_, it works fine in dual mode with win xp
[09:38] <volley> dhcpd in the terminal
[09:38] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> HELP with installing Wine please - anyone know how to do this?
[09:38] <Iikori> 'unable to lookup ....via gethostbyname'
[09:38] <Iikori> what that mean
[09:38] <Iikori> s
[09:38] <jerry_> will try it again but microsoft is messing around again reason i switchto linux
[09:39] <jerry_> last week had to reformat like 6 times kept getting a virus from there data base
[09:39] <UbuntuNewbie> so far i configure my computers to do WinXP, FC5, Debian and Ubuntu
[09:39] <UbuntuNewbie> had the hardest time installing FC5
[09:39] <jerry_> anyway it eventually locked up my key now i have to call microsoft to get it athurized every time
[09:39] <jmoncayo> jerry_, you first need to install win and then linux, otherwise you need to reinstall grub and cofigure it yourself
[09:39] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> I think I am going to bail on Ubuntu and get SuSe
[09:39] <jerry_> so will probably go with 98 se or me
[09:39] <jmoncayo> UbuntuNoob|Scott, can you do sudo apt-get install wine?
[09:39] <slizardo> hello!
[09:40] <jerry_> or just swap drives around
[09:40] <jerry_> yes you can sudo apt get wine
[09:40] <slizardo> what is the best p2p software for ubuntu gnu/linux distribution ?
[09:40] <jerry_> or just go through the synaptic program
[09:40] <Iikori> 'unable to lookup ....via gethostbyname'
[09:40] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> jmoncayo, pakage not available.
[09:40] <jmoncayo> just wondering what is the problem for UbuntuNoob|Scott
[09:40] <Iikori> wha't taht means
[09:41] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> jmoncayo, i have Wine, just not sure its stinalled right
[09:41] <slavik> slizardo: why do you need p2p?
[09:41] <bjorn_> why cant i connect to a tracker using bittorrent, i could when i had windows
[09:41] <jmoncayo> UbuntuNoob|Scott,  you need to uncoment  some lines in the /etc/apt/sources.list and then apt-get update
[09:41] <jerry_> bring up a terminal and type winefile
[09:41] <slavik> UbuntuNoob|Scott: did you add the wine repo?
[09:41] <jmoncayo> UbuntuNoob|Scott, its better if you do it with apt-get
[09:41] <dino_> automatix?
[09:41] <jerry_> if wines installed right it will open a wine window that you can use to add win apps
[09:41] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> whats the command to view that list
[09:42] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> repo?
[09:42] <UbuntuNoob|Scott> I dont know
[09:42] <slizardo> to download some independet movies...
[09:42] <LinuxNoob|Scott> that makes more sense
[09:42] <arrick> yeah
[09:42] <LinuxNoob|Scott> lol
[09:42] <jmoncayo> UbuntuNoob|Scott,  sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:42] <arrick> kingspawn, yeah, I dont think i will, might reboot after the installs though
[09:42] <LinuxNoob|Scott> that worked jmoncayo
[09:43] <slavik> or sudo nano
[09:43] <fr1nk> can someone please help me with the ltmodem issue? i've found several pages about installing it on acer travelmate - i dont know how applicable that would be in my case though.
[09:43] <jmoncayo> yes it does, you need more repos
[09:43] <bjorn_> why cant i connect to a peer using bittorrent, i could when i had windows
[09:43] <simon> slizard: what protocol? BT/DC?
[09:44] <jmoncayo> you get more stuff doin that
[09:44] <UbuntuNewbie> has anyone used wireless connection on Ubuntu
[09:44] <slizardo> dc better.
[09:44] <jmoncayo> i have
[09:44] <jmoncayo> UbuntuNewbie, i am wireless right now
[09:44] <simon> bjorn_: have you configured your client correctly? ports and shit
[09:44] <simon> slizardo: try valknut
[09:44] <bjorn_> eh i dont need to i think, im directly into the modem
[09:44] <UbuntuNewbie> do i have to buy a specific wireless card
[09:44] <slizardo> ok, perfect. i will see it.
[09:44] <simonpca> simon: hmmm... nice name :D
[09:45] <LinuxNoob|Scott> jmoncayo, i cant edit that file
[09:45] <simon> simonpca: :)
[09:45] <LinuxNoob|Scott> read only
[09:45] <bjorn_> i only get 0.45kb/s
[09:45] <_-AnTHo-_> hey quick question, is there any way to change the name of my mounted filesystems instead of hda1, or hdc2 to anything else?
[09:45] <jmoncayo> LinuxNoob|Scott, try sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:45] <Iikori> how I can login with root
[09:45] <simon> bjorn_: try limiting your upload to about 80% of your maximum upload
[09:45] <LinuxNoob|Scott> jmoncayo, i did
[09:46] <jmoncayo> LinuxNoob|Scott, yes you can do that you need to enter your user pass
[09:46] <bjorn_> it isnt uploading anything :s
[09:46] <jmoncayo> LinuxNoob|Scott, can you get root?
[09:46] <simon> bjorn_: are you connected to the tracker?
[09:46] <LinuxNoob|Scott> yeah
[09:46] <LinuxNoob|Scott> ok im editing it
[09:46] <jmoncayo> LinuxNoob|Scott, are you in the sudoers list
[09:47] <LinuxNoob|Scott> im admin
[09:47] <LinuxNoob|Scott> im only user on the system
[09:47] <bjorn_> i dont think so, the only event that is showing is "connecting to peers"
[09:47] <Iikori> pls cone some1 say how I can login with root on console..
[09:47] <jmoncayo> LinuxNoob|Scott, just uncoment the repos and then apt-get update thats all
[09:47] <bjorn_> the speed keeps growing really slowly
[09:47] <bjorn_> it's 6kb/s now
[09:47] <jmoncayo> you get a lot of stuff
[09:47] <LinuxNoob|Scott> jmoncayo, how do i close this file and save it
[09:47] <Matic`Makovec> bjorn_, get better mirrors
[09:47] <kingspawn> Iikori: by lord. root is turned off. do "sudo passwd root" to set a pass and enable it.,
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[09:47] <Matic`Makovec> or get better internet connection :)
[09:47] <bjorn_> how do you mean?
[09:48] <simon> bjorn_: does the torrent have a good seed/leech ratio?
[09:48] <bjorn_> with windows i could download the same file with 90kb/s
[09:48] <k31th> Anyone know of any software you can use to make music in linux
[09:48] <jmoncayo> UbuntuNewbie, you should buy one that has native linux drivers
[09:48] <simon> bjorn_: maybe now all seeds are gone
[09:48] <bjorn_> wait ill open it in azureus to see
[09:48] <LinuxNoob|Scott> jmoncayo, LOL wow its been a while...I had a couple months of experience with debian about a year ago
[09:48] <LinuxNoob|Scott> jmoncayo, i remember that command
[09:48] <LinuxNoob|Scott> ok its done
[09:48] <Iikori> 'unable to lookup laptop via gethostbyname()'
[09:48] <Iikori> whines like that
[09:48] <bjorn_> oh, ill check on torrentspy simon
[09:49] <arrick> hey kingspawn try out the http://arrick.no-ip.com again will you?
[09:49] <jmoncayo> oki now you can get more software
[09:49] <turbowaffle> Is there a way to force a package removal without uninstalling the dependant packages? I tried to upgrade to libreadline5 and now it says libreadline5 is broken, but libreadline4 is installed. If I try to remove either, it wants to uninstall a crapload of dependant programs
[09:49] <bjorn_> 63 seeders
[09:49] <sammo> ubuntu keeps freezing on me, any ideas where to look at?
[09:49] <kingspawn> arrick: working now
[09:49] <arrick> ok thanks
[09:49] <ubuntu> dgf
[09:50] <fr1nk> can someone please help me with the ltmodem issue? i've found several pages about installing it on acer travelmate - i dont know how applicable that would be in my case though.
[09:50] <_-AnTHo-_> hey guys, i've got a really quick question, is there any way to change the name of my mounted filesystems instead of hda1, or hdc2 to anything
[09:50] <simon> bjorn_: does az say NAT OK?
[09:50] <Iikori> kingspawn it whines like this when trying it 'unable to lookup laptop via gethostbyname()'
[09:50] <sammo> i think that you can change it in the fstab but i may be wrong
[09:50] <bjorn_> yes
[09:50] <kingspawn> Iikori: hm. did you change the name of your machine?
[09:51] <Iikori> nno
[09:51] <Iikori> I think
[09:51] <_-AnTHo-_> sammo: really? i was just in fstab.. hold on lemmie check
[09:51] <LinuxNoob|Scott> jmoncayo, http://pastebin.com/661990
[09:51] <scifi> anyone know how to reinstall x-server, cus mine seems to be completely buggared
[09:51] <LinuxNoob|Scott> thats my error
[09:51] <simon> bjorn_: then all should be in order, just give it some time :)
[09:51] <bjorn_> hmm ok
[09:51] <bjorn_> ty
[09:52] <sammo> you can put -L or label i think. I am pretty new to ubuntu but this is what I remember from doing it, I would ask someone else tho
[09:52] <ubuntu> can i browse a ntfs filesystem on a Windows xp pc while running Ububtu from a live cd ?
[09:52] <sethk> ubuntu, sure
[09:53] <kingspawn> Iikori: what does your /etc/hosts say?
[09:53] <scifi> anyone?
[09:53] <_-AnTHo-_> haha ok, well anyone else know how i can rename mounted file systems from say hda1 to say Windows Partiton
[09:53] <sammo> ubuntu keeps freezing on me randomly. Anyone know any error logs or anything that I may look at?
[09:53] <ubuntu> how? im completely new to linux
[09:53] <Iikori> can't do that
[09:53] <bjorn_> do you need a firewall in ubuntu?
[09:53] <Iikori> permission denied
[09:53] <mwe> bjorn_: if you are running any services you need to restrict
[09:53] <LinuxNoob|Scott> jmoncayo, did you look at that link?
[09:54] <kingspawn> Iikori: well, reboot into recovery mode, and check it out
[09:54] <mwe> bjorn_: by default nothing is listening on any ports I think
[09:54] <Iikori> recovery mode?
[09:54] <bjorn_> can you explain what restrict is? i'm dutch, so i don't understand :p
[09:55] <kingspawn> Iikori: in your grub you have a choice thats recovery mode
[09:55] <mwe> bjorn_: like if you have a web server and want to disallow certain ips to connect or whatever
[09:55] <sethk> sammo, /var/log/messages, to start with, and do ls -ltr /var/log and see what's changed most recently
[09:55] <Stormx2> bjorn_: For example, if you are running a server, but only want it to be accessable from 127.0.0.1, or whatever
[09:55] <jmoncayo> LinuxNoob|Scott, sorry dude i gotta go bbl to help you out
[09:55] <sammo> thx
[09:55] <bjorn_> oh no, i only use it for msn and internet, do i need a firewall?
[09:55] <bjorn_> to be safe
[09:55] <scifi> kingspawn: any ideas on reinstalling x server?
[09:55] <Iikori> so how I can change that
[09:56] <Stormx2> bjorn_: No.
[09:56] <sethk> Bjoern-Erik, no
[09:56] <bjorn_> and what about a virusscanner? is that necessary
[09:56] <sethk> sorry, bjorn_, no
[09:56] <Misnix> bjorn_, inperken
[09:56] <mwe> bjorn_: no. nothing is accepting incoming traffic, so
[09:56] <Iikori> kingspawn just say easy way to format computer with ubuntu
[09:56] <sethk> bjorn_, there are only about three linux viruses around
[09:56] <LinuxNoob|Scott> jmoncayo-away, cya
[09:56] <bjorn_> oh :p and spyware?
[09:57] <kingspawn> Iikori: insert your cd and install
[09:57] <mwe> bjorn_: also users are not superusers by default in linux so malware doesn't tend to spread system wide
[09:57] <UbuntuNewbie> how do i install the latest firefox globally
[09:57] <kingspawn> scifi: no, sorry, i dont use x much
[09:57] <UbuntuNewbie> latest version of firefox*
[09:57] <bjorn_> ok :)
[09:57] <Iikori> kingspawn you mean ubuntu cd
[09:57] <scifi> mwe: any ideas on reinstalling x server?
[09:57] <mwe> bjorn_: not that I've had any yet
[09:57] <kingspawn> Iikori: i'll let you guess
[09:57] <bjorn_> my last question, do you need to defrag ubuntu
[09:57] <bjorn_> time to time
[09:57] <mwe> scifi: explain
[09:58] <UbuntuNewbie> or do i wait for latest ubuntu firefox package
[09:58] <mwe> bjorn_: I don't know any program that does it
[09:58] <scifi> mwe: after trying out the resolution/refesh rate fixes and chnging some setting in x server cofiguration after restarting x server is now disabled
[09:58] <bjorn_> oh, so it doesnt need to :p thanks
[09:58] <mwe> bjorn_: it doesn't seem to be a big problem
[09:59] <greenwom> how do I make a fat32 second hard drive read/write and how do I make is so I can wright to it without sudo
[09:59] <obscurite> I'm trying to rsync host:/home/USER to my local directory /home/USER, but rsync is creating a dir /home/USER/USER -- any way to tell rsync not to create the root dir you're copying?
[09:59] <mwe> bjorn_: all file system suffer from fragmentation though
[09:59] <bjorn_> oh ok :)
[09:59] <walden> heya. how do i decompress a tar.bz file?
[09:59] <shreevatsa> obscurite: put a slash at the end
[09:59] <bjorn_> brb
[09:59] <mwe> scifi: but you did of course make a backup of your config before messing with it, right?
[09:59] <kingspawn> walden: tar xvfj file
[09:59] <biovore> tar -xvzf file.tar.bz
[09:59] <obscurite> shreevatsa - if it's that easy I will do a jig.
[09:59] <walden> kingspawn: ok
[10:00] <shreevatsa> obscurite: how about rsync "host:/home/user /home" ?
[10:00] <Iikori> kingspawn can't find tha install file at CD
[10:00] <scifi> mwe: yes tried reloading it with a command rambo3 gave me, but doesnt seem to have worked
[10:00] <kingspawn> Iikori: eh, what are you trying to find?
[10:00] <Iikori> that install thing to unistall ubuntu
[10:00] <greenwom> how do I make a fat32 second hard drive read/write and how do I make is so I can wright to it without root
[10:00] <mwe> scifi: I didn't see that command. what was it?
[10:00] <Engla> hello. Is there something I can do to make the ttys support bold and underlined fonts? That would be great and more beautiful
[10:00] <obscurite> shreevatsa - you were correct, a / did the trick. *dance*
[10:00] <fr1nk> biovore: which command should i use to split tar files into volumes? -L ?
[10:01] <_-AnTHo-_> how do i rename a mounted drive from hda1 to something else
[10:01] <scifi> mwe: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.cof.backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:01] <biovore> fr1nk: I use split on a tar.bz file
[10:01] <biovore> man split
[10:01] <kingspawn> Engla: guess you could read up on vesa framebuffers
[10:01] <doofy> how do i set an applciation under the applications menu to run as root?
[10:01] <mwe> scifi: you should probably spell it correctly
[10:02] <fr1nk> biovore: thx
[10:02] <Xaero_Vincent> i have a major problem.... i accidently disabled admistrative permissions on my only user account!  Can anyone help me please?
[10:02] <scifi> mwe: will try again, but i think i spelt it correctly
[10:02] <Engla> kingspawn: well, why not. Where?
[10:02] <kingspawn> Engla: google :)
[10:02] <Iikori> some1 say me easyway to unistall ubuntu
[10:02] <mwe> scifi: ls /etc/X11/ to see the correct file name
[10:02] <Engla> kingspawn: no other keyword hints? :)
[10:03] <kingspawn> Engla: linux.. :)
[10:03] <volley> ummmm
[10:04] <Xaero_Vincent> i cant change the user account settings because thats an adminstrative program
[10:04] <Xaero_Vincent> what do i do?
[10:04] <walden> 125mb of updates for me
[10:04] <volley> I just started synaptic and it displayed like a thousand errors.......
[10:04] <theinternet> 1,000 errors excatly?
[10:04] <volley> thats not good is it?
[10:04] <mwe> Xaero_Vincent: use sudo
[10:04] <volley> lol
[10:04] <volley> no soory
[10:04] <theinternet> No actually, that's very good.
[10:04] <Xaero_Vincent> mwe sudo isnt working
[10:04] <walden> volley: open a console, and type sudo apt-get update
[10:04] <obscurite> Does anyone here have a strategy for using vmware? I find that every time I pull down a kernel update I have to rebuild vmware.
[10:04] <theinternet> The more errors the better.
[10:05] <mwe> Xaero_Vincent: and you can't login as root either?
[10:05] <volley> this is one   "W: Couldn't stat source package list http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ca.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[10:05] <volley> oh ok ill do that
[10:05] <bliss1__> hello Happy Easter folks
[10:05] <obscurite> happy passover too
[10:05] <Xaero_Vincent> not I only have one user account and I accidently removed admistrative permissions.. so now sudo wont even work
[10:05] <theinternet> Shutup I'm athiest
[10:05] <obscurite> happy no-god-day too
[10:05] <scifi> mwe: omg backup worked!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[10:05] <mwe> Xaero_Vincent: boot to recovery mode to fix it
[10:05] <kingspawn> Xaero_Vincent: reboot into recovery mode and fix that up
[10:06] <mwe> Xaero_Vincent: that will give you root access
[10:06] <LazySod> !vmware
[10:06] <ubotu> LazySod: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:06] <theinternet> Everyday is no-god-day when you're athiest!
[10:06] <bliss1__> obsurite yep Happy Passover
[10:06] <Xaero_Vincent> ok... i'll try that
[10:06] <mwe> Xaero_Vincent: then useradd youruser admin and reboot
[10:06] <volley> so u think that I just need to update
[10:07] <scifi> now anyone know a refresh rate fix that doesnt mess up x server ? :x
[10:07] <mwe> I think he left before he got that. hmm he'll probably be back
[10:07] <Iikori> please can some1 say me easyway to unistall ubuntu
[10:07] <roger_> eiiii oala
[10:07] <volley> I sure hope so I dowant to have to reinstall again
[10:07] <theinternet> BTW, I'm still have errors with Swf. Now it won't even display the swf files.
[10:07] <walden> volley: maybe update a couple of times, sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[10:07] <obscurite> Iikori, just put in the CD and follow the prompts. It's easy :)
[10:08] <bliss1__> posted a  doc in a pastebin from my kernel log can someone take a look and let me know if i should make some corrections. http://pastebin.ca/49443
[10:08] <Engla> kingspawn: okay, I found out. It's horriby difficult and no fun. Do you know if the ubuntu kernel has the proper stuff compiled in?
[10:08] <walden> obscurite: he wants to un-install ubuntu
[10:08] <obscurite> walden - oh my bad.
[10:08] <walden> hehe
[10:08] <obscurite> walden - who would want to do that??? ;)
[10:08] <volley> The following packages have been kept back:
[10:08] <volley>   update-manager
[10:08] <volley> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
[10:08] <mwe> volley: I recommend using archive.ubuntu.com instead of ca.archive.ubuntu.com though. that will redirect you to a good mirror
[10:08] <volley> thats not good is it?
[10:08] <bliss1__> kingspawn: hi hows it going
[10:09] <theinternet> Yeah, who would? I love this os.
[10:09] <tombo_> Can someone tell me how to edit a user account to do admin from the terminal.  I have no gui on original user account.
[10:09] <kingspawn> Engla: hehe,it can be fun if you get it to work :) no idea if its compiled in, but it might, since its big and has lots of stuff
[10:09] <mwe> volley: what did you type?
[10:09] <kingspawn> bliss1__: hey
[10:09] <walden> volley: that's fine. did you update first, and then try upgrade?
[10:09] <volley> yes and                  got like a bunch of stuff
[10:09] <walden> i am upgrading like after 10-12 days and it wants to download 125M of upgrades
[10:09] <walden> volley: cool. so must be fine then.
[10:09] <volley> so its all good
[10:09] <Engla> kingspawn: I'm quite pessimistic.. It says this about menuconfig for ATI cards: "Go into the Code Maturity Level menu, and enable the prompt for development and/or incomplete drivers"
[10:09] <walden> now try opening Synaptic
[10:09] <mwe> volley: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade probably
[10:10] <walden> and see what errors you ger
[10:10] <kingspawn> Engla: hm, might be outdated
[10:10] <Younix> Yo.
[10:10] <kingspawn> Engla: its worth a shot
[10:10] <bliss1__> kingspawn: if you have a sec can you take a look at  http://pastebin.ca/49443
[10:10] <Younix> I have a question. Okay, on shipit.ubuntu.com, is there anyway to view the information on the CDs you requested. Such as phone number, address, ect?
[10:11] <walden> you want to change that?
[10:11] <walden> i believe you cant.
[10:11] <Younix> :(
[10:11] <volley> gnome seems very resource hungry
[10:11] <merlin_> gnome is resource hungry by nature
[10:11] <walden> just ask for a new set :) with your latest address
[10:11] <walden> use xfce4. it works well.
[10:11] <scifi> mwe:now that im booted in ubuntu with x server im looking at the xorg.conf file and the only difference i can see (as well as the default refresh rates being different) is that id had chnged the monitor name from "generic device" to Hansol 720E
[10:11] <mwe> volley: or fluxbox
[10:12] <kingspawn> bliss1__: hm, what gives you this message?
[10:12] <walden> though i am using gnome atm
[10:12] <volley> nwe: what is fluxbox?
[10:12] <walden> it is a window manager.
[10:12] <bliss1__> kingspawn: park of my kernel log anything to worrey about
[10:12] <bliss1__> part
[10:12] <mwe> scifi: yes. what's the problem?
[10:13] <mwe> volley: fluxbox is a cool light weight window manager
[10:13] <scifi> mwe: im assuming that name change is what caused the problem with x server
[10:13] <sethk> scifi, that's going to change the list of available resolutions
[10:13] <ReneSDK> evening guys i have a problem. Eventhough i have enabled all the repositories in the Synaptec package manager i cant seem to find/install the packages that is supposed to be on the Universe/mulitverse repositories in Dapper Drake 6.06. What could be the problem?
[10:13] <kingspawn> bliss1__: hm, wouldnt think so, if it hasnt affected anything you need. looks like some sort of obscure error thats got something to do with power management
[10:13] <scifi> sethk: i see but why did it give me that option in the 1st place
[10:13] <bliss1__> kingspawn: like my labtop will not reboot?
[10:13] <UbuntuNewbie> i just notice my trash can icon on my desktop is not displaying the correct icon
[10:14] <UbuntuNewbie> noticed*
[10:14] <volley> mwe: is fluxbox like a taly different shell?
[10:14] <scifi> im gonna try and run the auto-detect script again and see if it works
[10:14] <sethk> scifi, sounds like it didn't identify the monitor, and defaulted to a generic monitor
[10:14] <kingspawn> bliss1__: heh, well, thats not unlikely :)
[10:14] <walden> volley: yeah. you enable the menus in fluxbox by pressing the right mouse button. it is different, but cool.
[10:14] <scifi> sethk: right that wud explain the 60hz refresh rate, but it did choose the right resolution
[10:15] <mwe> volley: shell?
[10:15] <scifi> all i wanna do is chnge the refresh rate
[10:15] <sethk> scifi, dumb luck, to some degree
[10:15] <mwe> volley: it's a different window manager.
[10:15] <obscurite> are there any utilities you can use to set up an xorg.conf graphically?
[10:15] <bolrod> 'sort' of graphiclly
[10:15] <bolrod> yes
[10:15] <Morrowyn> xorgconfig?
[10:15] <bolrod> it exists?!
[10:15] <bolrod> wow
[10:16] <obscurite> bolrod - what were you referring to?
[10:16] <bolrod> dpkg-reconfigure
[10:16] <Xaero_Vincent> Thanks! I was able to fix it in recovery mode. :-)
[10:16] <bliss1__> kingspawn: well i have two debian os's both with kernel 2.6 had to disable USB legacy in BIOS so my labtop could use keypad in one of the os's and since then reboot has become a thing of the past
[10:16] <mwe> Xaero_Vincent: good
[10:16] <obscurite> aww, no ubuntu packages for xorgconfig
[10:16] <mwe> Xaero_Vincent: did you add your user back to the admin group?
[10:16] <pepsi^^> ubuntu doesn't have xorgconfig or xorgcfg by default
[10:16] <obscurite> Morrowyn, bolrod, i'll take a look thanks
[10:17] <Morrowyn> gl
[10:17] <jafar00> little help with compiling needed
[10:17] <pepsi^^> you can use sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:17] <bolrod> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg works fine
[10:17] <volley> and will it install easy on ubuntu
[10:17] <tonyyarusso> Any way to check differences between metapackages?  I want to know what's in edubuntu-desktop that isn't in {u,ku,xu}buntu-desktop.
[10:17] <Xaero_Vincent> yea... and su and sudo.. gksudo.. etc. are working again
[10:17] <volley> fluxbox that is
[10:17] <Morrowyn> i always do my xorg thourgh vi
[10:17] <mwe> Xaero_Vincent: yeah. good
[10:17] <pepsi^^> is a easy way for adjust the settings
[10:17] <merlin_> anyone here has had any lock getting laptop s-video to work?....ati radeon mobility 9600
[10:17] <crimsun> tonyyarusso: check their depends
[10:17] <Morrowyn> but thats just a matter of taste though
[10:17] <beta_m> if i absolutely need to run a windows application, what do i use... i keep hearing about wine, is that the package i need?
[10:17] <tonyyarusso> crimsun: Any simple way to narrow that down, or do I just have to sit and read through the whole thing?
[10:18] <eobanb> beta_m, yes.
[10:18] <jafar00> i have installed build-essential and autoconf and automake but ./configure returns checking for wx-config... no
[10:18] <jafar00> configure: error:
[10:18] <jafar00>         Please check that wx-config is in path, etc...
[10:18] <beta_m> eobanb: thanks
[10:18] <jafar00> how do I get wxconfig
[10:18] <tonyyarusso> crimsun: Like, show depends of edu.., grep -v u...
[10:18] <obscurite> Morrowyn, something that could help me configure an external monitor would ROCK
[10:18] <jafar00> its not installed
[10:18] <maxi1993> hello
[10:18] <mwe> merlin_: yeah. it was my old laptop though. I had to add something to xorg.conf but I don't remember what
[10:18] <crimsun> tonyyarusso: do it recursively. Have fun.
[10:18] <Morrowyn> like 2 monitors?
[10:18] <obscurite> Morrowyn, especially if it knew how to set up various types of multi-monitor setups
[10:19] <obscurite> Morrowyn - One monitor would be cool, but if it knew how to configure dual display that would be amazing
[10:19] <tonyyarusso> crimsun: Recursive metapackage depends checking by hand?  Icky.
[10:19] <merlin_> mwe: cuz i have the ati drivers install and i even have that control panel....but i get no output
[10:19] <maxi1993> does can anybody tell me how i can transform a dvdmovie into a .avi file with ubuntu please
[10:19] <jafar00> maxi1993 use k3b
[10:19] <walden> !dvd::rip
[10:19] <Morrowyn> you can use xinerama, although that doesnt support opengl on both screens, just your main, or if you have an nvidia card, then you are lucky
[10:19] <mwe> merlin_: you have to edit xorg.conf. google is my best advice. that's how I figured it out
[10:19] <Morrowyn> and you can have opengl on both screens
[10:20] <jafar00> !compiling
[10:20] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware
[10:20] <jafar00> hehe
[10:20] <merlin_> mwe: thank you
[10:20] <obscurite> Morrowyn - have a lappy with an intel 915GM
[10:20] <maxi1993> i would like to shrink the size of the dvd from around 4 GB to 700 mb, is that possible with K3B?
[10:20] <walden> not in k3b.
[10:21] <mjr> maxi1993, dvdrip
[10:21] <walden> !dvdrip
[10:21] <Morrowyn> ok, then xinerama it is, it isnt that hard though
[10:21] <ubotu> walden: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:21] <walden> nope. not there was well.
[10:21] <walden> !dvd:rip
[10:21] <jafar00> !wx-config
[10:21] <ubotu> jafar00: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:21] <mwe> !info dvdrip
[10:21] <ubotu> dvdrip: (perl front end for transcode), section multiverse/graphics, is optional. Version: 1:0.52.5-0.0 (breezy), Packaged size: 365 kB, Installed size: 1656 kB
[10:22] <MrZaius> talented writer, but he's never going to maintain this thing
[10:22] <MrZaius> machine won't boot without apic turned off
[10:22] <walden> ty,mwe
[10:22] <Morrowyn> http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Xinerama-HOWTO/index.html this one is nice
[10:22] <Morrowyn> obscurite,
[10:22] <MrZaius> will future updates ever overwrite my /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[10:22] <maxi1993> ty :)
[10:22] <obscurite> Morrowyn - Thanks, looking.
[10:22] <Morrowyn> you night wanna do it manually though
[10:22] <bliss1__> nickrud: HI Happy Easter--i hope
[10:22] <MrZaius> I've got it set with kopt=, but want to know whether or not that'll be permanent
[10:22] <DBO> MrZaius, no
[10:22] <kingspawn> MrZaius: theoretically no. back it up to be sure.
[10:23] <MrZaius> cool
[10:23] <MrZaius> so, on a related note
[10:23] <MrZaius> how does grub get updated when the kernel gets updated, and will it default to the newest version?
[10:23] <jafar00> can anyone tell me what provides wx-config?
[10:23] <gnomefreak> MrZaius: apt updates grub for you and yes it _should_ list new kernel
[10:23] <crimsun> MrZaius: update-grub is called after /boot/grub/menu.lst is adjusted. And yes, it defaults to the newest one.
[10:24] <bliss1__> MrZaius: update-grub
[10:24] <emsko> Hi, I'm about to install Ubuntu on one of my comps, (I want only linux on it), and am wondering what the difference between "erase entire disk: ide1 master..." and "erase entire disk and use lvm: ide1 master..." is
[10:24] <MrZaius> cool.  good enough for me, then
[10:24] <crimsun> jafar00: packages.ubuntu.com
[10:25] <obscurite> Anyone have kompose running with gnome? When I run it it seems to hang and spit out lots of msgs about pixmaps. I thought I was missing dependencies but nothing I installed helped.
[10:25] <walden> lvm allows you to dynamically resize partitions on your disk... while in fixed partioning, you are stuck with the partitions you make during install.
[10:25] <emsko> walden: so if I just plan on having ubuntu on the comp, I don't need lvm?
[10:25] <javierasex> www.visualmaster.net/sex/webcam.exe el mejor porno gratis solo 2 dias total discrecion... veame soy tu opcion
[10:26] <jafar00> lol
[10:26] <walden> emsko: no need. just create a big enough /home and allow ubuntu to take care of the rest with a / partition
[10:26] <wvelez> hehe...
[10:26] <emsko> cool, thanks bro
[10:27] <beta_m> how do i edit the boot up menu?
[10:27] <walden> which menu?
[10:27] <bur[n] er> beta_m: /boot/grub/menu.lst for the grub bootloader
[10:27] <beta_m> grub or whatever
[10:27] <beta_m> ok, thanks
[10:27] <walden> ah.
[10:29] <walden> is there some software that allows you to track planetary object movements... and star charts based on where i am?
[10:29] <kingspawn> i am getting a beer.
[10:29] <DBO> bur[n] er, no it will not unless it is compiled for linux and marked executable
[10:29] <Morrowyn> stellarium?
[10:29] <kingspawn> walden: best question ever.
[10:29] <kingspawn> :)
[10:29] <obscurite> If I have a /dev/md0 (RAID-1) with two disks, each with a mirrored / partition and it's own swap partition, if I pull out one drive and reboot, should it always be able to boot off the other drive, or do I need to somehow prep it?
[10:29] <walden> i dunno. will check.
[10:29] <walden> i will checkthat about after my update gets over :) still about 20 mins left
[10:29] <Morrowyn> kstars (for kde users)
[10:30] <walden> yeah, i have tthe kde libs installed. will get both then
[10:30] <DBO> obscurite, the idea is that you should be able to smash one of the drives with a sledge hammer and still boot... but that doesnt always work out...
[10:30] <CokeNCode> why is that that cntrl + alt + backspace doesn't get rid of hte x server with ubuntu, all it does is log me out, how do i get shut down x server ?
[10:31] <obscurite> DBO - I found that it only worked with one drive (I guess the non-boot drive). If I pulled the drive it was booting from, no luck.
[10:31] <Doomhammer> can anyone give me a link to a xinerama howto that is more up-to-date than the one in the wiki ?
[10:31] <DBO> obscurite, you may have to have made a BIOS change for your boot drive...
[10:31] <obscurite> DBO - hmm, didn't try that
[10:31] <Centaur5> Could anybody tell me how I can get into a vterm because Ctrl + Alt + F* keys no longer do.
[10:31] <Doomhammer> !xinerama
[10:31] <ubotu> xinerama is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=xinerama&titlesearch=Titles Hopefully, one of these works for you, and feedback is welcome
[10:32] <latrek> hi there
[10:33] <latrek> I just installed ubuntu
[10:33] <latrek> for the first time
[10:33] <mwe> congrats
[10:33] <walden> nice :)
[10:33] <latrek> and x server just crashed on me
[10:33] <olive> bad
[10:33] <walden> not nice.
[10:33] <latrek> not sure what to do
[10:33] <Scar_Freewill> my totem player just crashes (disapers) when i add click the + button when there is already music in the list
[10:33] <latrek> what do you think I should do?
[10:33] <kingspawn> Scar_Freewill: never use totem. thats my rule of tuhmb.
[10:34] <kingspawn> thumb, even.
[10:34] <mwe> latrek: when did it crash?
[10:34] <walden> update-rc.d -f remove gdm
[10:34] <mwe> latrek: I mean when you tried starting it or what?
[10:34] <bliss1__> DBO: is this  kernel log its only four or five lines anything of concern http://pastebin.ca/49443
[10:34] <latrek> after I did apt-get  upgrade
[10:34] <bolrod> did you install dapper or breezy?
[10:34] <mwe> latrek: oh. it worked before that?
[10:34] <latrek> no
[10:34] <latrek> I installed 5.10
[10:34] <jafar00> !mplex
[10:34] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, jafar00
[10:35] <latrek> installed nvidia drivers
[10:35] <Scar_Freewill> kingspawn: is tuhmb a multimedia app?
[10:35] <bolrod> did you install restricted modules?
[10:35] <mwe> latrek: well can you log in at the command line?
[10:35] <emsko> totem is teh suck
[10:35] <kingspawn> Scar_Freewill: no, its a type.
[10:35] <DBO> bliss1__, how old is your system?
[10:35] <kingspawn> DAMN
[10:35] <latrek> not sure
[10:35] <mike13> hello
[10:35] <kingspawn> typO
[10:35] <jafar00> !MJPEG Tools
[10:35] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, jafar00
[10:35] <jafar00> !MJPEG
[10:35] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, jafar00
[10:35] <jafar00> sigh..
[10:35] <mwe> jafar00: please /msg the bot
[10:36] <Scar_Freewill> lol
[10:36] <latrek> I edited my sources.list file
[10:36] <jafar00> sorry :)
[10:36] <bolrod> latrek: what did you edit?
[10:36] <DBO> bliss1__, well, something is wrong with ACPI it seems, but if everything is working... I wouldnt worry... though if that is your WHOLE kernel log, klogd seems to be dumping on you
[10:36] <mabus06> his sources.list file
[10:36] <mwe> latrek: can you log in at the command line? I guess so
[10:36] <mike13> i've got problem getting my soundcard to work
[10:36] <mike13> can anyone help ??
[10:36] <latrek> the last 2 lines to include multiverse
[10:36] <latrek> and ...
[10:37] <bliss1__> DBO; installed ubuntu  on hda2in december deleted windos same time  sarge on hda2  -cannot reboot
[10:37] <mwe> mike13: crimsun is our sound expert. don't know if he's around though
[10:37] <bolrod> latrek: you worked with linux before?
[10:37] <DBO> ahhh
[10:37] <latrek> yeah I can log in at the command line
[10:37] <bliss1__> DBO: ubuntu on hda1
[10:38] <emsko> do and of you know of a itunes-type program that links up with and allows you to manage music on an ipod?
[10:38] <mwe> latrek: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg might at least get it to run
[10:38] <latrek> I've had little exp. in linux
[10:38] <twidget> I've created a vfat partition to share my files between Windows and Ubuntu. As I understand it, /home can't be placed there, but I still should be able to save any files I want there, correct?
[10:38] <bolrod> latrek: dpkg --get-selections | grep restricted
[10:38] <bolrod> what does that show
[10:38] <DBO> bliss1__, I understand your issue now...  i dont know an answer off the top of my head, but it seems there is an error within ACPI which is causing your issue
[10:38] <mike13> mwe> ok thanks
[10:38] <latrek> I also have a nvidia card if that means anything
[10:38] <walden> twidget: yup. a fat32 partition to share data between your windows partition and normal user
[10:38] <bolrod> yes... I know
[10:38] <obscurite> DBO - after I remove a drive, and reboot, the drive needs to be re-added to /dev/md0 - know how I can make that happen automagically?
[10:38] <bolrod> what does the command show?
[10:39] <DBO> obscurite, use hardware raid?
[10:39] <walden> twidget: you can copy from fat32 to /home and vice versa
[10:39] <twidget> cool beans
[10:39] <obscurite> DBO - i'll take that to mean you can't do that ;)
[10:39] <twidget> now if I could just fix my NVida driver :/
[10:39] <DBO> obscurite, I could write a script to do it, but I wont recommend using it or even give it to you because its a dumb and dangerous idea
[10:39] <captine> anyone know how to install ubuntu 64bit 5.10 on turion without using "noapic" and "nolapic" copmmand?  my installation freezes without those?
[10:39] <walden> hehe. i have a laptop. no nvidia or ati thinggummies in this.. safe.
[10:39] <obscurite> DBO - makes sense
[10:40] <bolrod> latrek: ?
[10:40] <Scar_Freewill> what is the latest version of wine already compiled 4 us
[10:40] <slavik> 0.9.11
[10:40] <slavik> I think
[10:40] <slavik> or 12
[10:40] <bliss1__> DBO: ok thanks I will post the whole kernel in a pastebin --had to disable USB legacy in BIOS so i can use keypad in sarge
[10:40] <latrek> ok I'll try to dpkg xserver
[10:40] <emsko> do and of you know of a itunes-type program that links up with and allows you to manage music on an ipod?
[10:40] <bolrod> no
[10:41] <bolrod> you don't
[10:41] <thechitowncubs> hey i want to put an old computer to use, what things could I have it do on my home network heh :)
[10:41] <Scar_Freewill> slavik: thx
[10:41] <bolrod> what does   dpkg --get-selections | grep restricted
[10:41] <bolrod> output
[10:41] <Scar_Freewill> tel me try..
[10:41] <Scar_Freewill> !wine
[10:41] <bliss1__> DBO: two kernels both 2.6 ubuntu and sarge
[10:41] <eobanb> thechitowncubs, you could do a lot of things, depending on how old it is
[10:41] <Scar_Freewill> dam
[10:41] <DBshOwer> bliss1__, I remember your issue
[10:41] <slavik> Scar_Freewill: you have to add the wine repo ...
[10:41] <__mikem> what in gods name is going on here
[10:41] <thechitowncubs> eobanb, 333mhz pentium 2 8gb hd 128mb of ram
[10:41] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Scar_Freewill -about wine
[10:41] <DBshOwer> bliss1__, I just dont know a fix right now, give me time to try to either recreate it or figure out what is wrong
[10:42] <slavik> afaik, wine compiles are very up to date
[10:42] <thechitowncubs> I just want some ideas, I'm bored and I've got time to kill... what could I set up?
[10:42] <bliss1__> DBshOwer: no probs thanks
[10:42] <eobanb> thechitowncubs, you could set up a server of some kind, like a web server, or you could set up a firewall..
[10:42] <Scar_Freewill> slavik: i have and i am downloading it atm, but it ceeps getting disconected while i am dling it
[10:42] <Doomhammer> i hit ctrl+alt+backspace, but kdm doesn't appear to be restarting... why?
[10:42] <eobanb> thechitowncubs, you could also have it run some sort of grid computing app like folding@home
[10:43] <bolrod> latrek: you need help?..
[10:43] <darkf0x> hey all
[10:43] <thechitowncubs> eobanb, good idea, i was thinking about that
[10:43] <tombo_> Hi guys. can some one tell me how to edit priveliges of user accounts  from the terminal
[10:43] <Doomhammer> the process "kdm" is still running according to ps -A, but it's not showing up
[10:43] <mwe> tombo_: what do you wanna do specifically?
[10:43] <bolrod> you can edit /etc/group by hand
[10:43] <eobanb> thechitowncubs, if you found a bigger hard drive, you could make it into a media server (for music)
[10:44] <bolrod> otherwise useradd
[10:44] <darkf0x> does anyone know anout a good rss feed reader that will stay on (fox example) on the right side of the desktop??
[10:44] <bolrod> usermod
[10:44] <mwe> no don't do that please
[10:44] <bolrod> userdel
[10:44] <obscurite> DBO - if I have two identical boxes each with two drives, can I take a RAID1 drive from box 1, drop it in box 2, and build a system off it? or is that insane?
[10:44] <mwe> you should always use vigr
[10:44] <bolrod> no?
[10:44] <mwe> not edit /etc/group by hand
[10:44] <mwe> use vigr
[10:44] <walden> bbs. if lucky
[10:44] <thechitowncubs> eobanb, that might be a possibility, I have a 320gb hard drive with all my music, movies, etc and that would be easier to have it on a server like that
[10:44] <thechitowncubs> sounds good
[10:44] <thechitowncubs> thanks for the ideas
[10:44] <Doomhammer> can someone help me... why doesn't KDM restart by itself after a ctrl+alt+backspace ?
[10:45] <bolrod> mwe: whats the problem with editing /etc/group by hand?
[10:45] <__mikem> What would be a better choice, to take a windows machine and a live cd or my windows machine and my linux notebook
[10:45] <Doomhammer> plus, it's still not doing anything after i did a /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[10:45] <mwe> bolrod: it doesn't prevent you from typos. vigr does
[10:45] <obscurite> __mikem, what do you need windows for?
[10:45] <__mikem> I am going on a trip in two days where I will need access to both a linux machine and a windows machine
[10:45] <bolrod> owh
[10:45] <mwe> bolrod: it wont let you save unless the syntax is correct
[10:45] <tombo_> mwe I hve just installed ubuntu. Had problems with display and craeted a new account which fixed display, but I cannot makea ny system changes from new account
[10:45] <martyn_> hi all
[10:45] <Doomhammer> tombo: you need to use the command "sudo"
[10:46] <__mikem> IN my case its a competition for programmers, and they may require me to use a windows machine
[10:46] <Doomhammer> tombo: for more information, type "man sudo" at a terminal
[10:46] <mwe> tombo_: you need to add the user to the admin group
[10:46] <bolrod>  /etc/group  isn't that difficult ...  :)   but erh.. is it catastrophic if you save with bad syntax?
[10:46] <eobanb> no problem, thechitowncubs .  if you need any help, just come back and ask
[10:46] <__mikem> obscurite did you get that
[10:46] <mwe> tombo_: login as the first user and sudo adduser newusername admin
[10:46] <obscurite> __mikem - no way to call ahead?
[10:46] <martyn_> i am tring to copile new grf drivers how to i check if i am using gcc and not gcc4
[10:46] <ca38aspear> _mikem will you have internet acsses if you do take the linux box and use vnc
[10:46] <martyn_> i am tring to copile new grf drivers how to i check if i am using gcc 3.4 and not gcc4
[10:47] <mwe> martyn_: gcc --version
[10:47] <Doomhammer> martyn: gcc --version ?
[10:47] <mike13> anyone else for a problem with a sound card ??
[10:47] <__mikem> Because, currently, my linux box is a notebook, and it is behind a firewall, and I don't feel like setting up vnc
[10:47] <darkf0x> i've see rss feed readers on ms machines that like stay on the desktop... but does anyone if i can get the same thing on my ubuntu box??
[10:47] <martyn_> thx
[10:47] <mwe> mike13: you need to be more specific. did you try anything at all?
[10:47] <whatsisnamezor> greetings
[10:47] <obscurite> __mikem - ideally you could run vmware if you had to run windows
[10:48] <whatsisnamezor> hey can anyone with a dell laptop and a multimeter help me out for a second
[10:48] <mike13> i read the documentation
[10:48] <__mikem> I don't have any spare license keys for windows
[10:48] <__mikem> I do have a couple of vm ware licenses, but they are for windows machines
[10:48] <whatsisnamezor> __mikem any chance your laptop is a dell
[10:48] <mike13> i disabled the onboard soundcard
[10:48] <__mikem> um, no its a compaq
[10:48] <latrek> after reconfiguring x server how do I start it up?
[10:48] <__mikem> presario 900
[10:48] <whatsisnamezor> also, if you have spare licenses for vmware, i'm sure you could call vmware and swap
[10:49] <darkf0x> lattrek: startx
[10:49] <latrek> ok
[10:49] <mwe> latrek: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start or startx
[10:49] <obscurite> __mikem - yeah try to swap for linux
[10:49] <mike13> desinstalled then reinstalled alsa
[10:49] <__mikem> its the weekend, and I believe where I am, their tech support is closed for the day
[10:49] <tombo_> mwe. It says the user******* is already a member of 'admin'
[10:49] <obscurite> __mikem - oh well sounds like you'll be taking both ;)
[10:50] <__mikem> thanks
[10:50] <mwe> tombo_: yes. and sudo doesn't work?
[10:50] <whatsisnamezor> anyone here have a dell laptop
[10:50] <__mikem> Now the trick is to clear that manuver with my father
[10:50] <captine> anyone know how to install ubuntu 64bit 5.10 on turion without using "noapic" and "nolapic" copmmand?  my installation freezes without those?
[10:50] <ca38aspear> mwe do you have the sudo passwd
[10:50] <__mikem> mwe check your sudoers file
[10:50] <obscurite> __mikem - if he cares about you having a career then i'm sure he'll agree
[10:50] <__mikem> maybe
[10:51] <mwe> sudo works fine for me
[10:51] <mwe> I was commenting on tombo_'s problem
[10:51] <ca38aspear> my bad
[10:51] <__mikem> oh, then tell tombo_ to pastebin the output of less /etc/sudoers
[10:51] <MrRio> Is ubuntu participating in SoC this year?
[10:52] <__mikem> that should tell us exactly what the problem is
[10:52] <eobanb> MrRio, i believe they are
[10:52] <mwe> __mikem: but he can't unless he can sudo. he wont have permission
[10:52] <tombo_> mwe, how do you mean 'sudo doesn't work.  It seems to be working but I do not know how to use it
[10:52] <__mikem> does the su command work for him
[10:52] <mirak> hi
[10:52] <simonpca> i have a question about Wvdial
[10:52] <ryan> does any1 know of a widget that shows the ip's connected to your computer?
[10:52] <mwe> tombo_: type sudo whatever you need to do as root
[10:52] <__mikem> um tombo_ sudo (name of command) [args] 
[10:52] <simonpca> when I try to dial, i got somethied like "no carrier"
[10:52] <fiendskull9> ryan, you measn the internal ips?
[10:52] <mirak> I can't enable TV out of ati 9600 with fireglcontrol
[10:52] <simonpca> what can it be?
[10:53] <mirak> I remember having it working already, but it doesn't anymore
[10:53] <mwe> tombo_: I'm not sure I understand what your problem is
[10:53] <__mikem> tombo_ after you do that it will prompt you for YOUR password
[10:53] <ryan> no external ip's
[10:53] <__mikem> make sure you type YOUR password and not your root password
[10:53] <__mikem> then it should work
[10:53] <fiendskull9> ryan, like, what is your external IP? or what external ips are transferring data
[10:54] <ryan> fiendskull9, the external ip's that are transferring data
[10:54] <fiendskull9> ryan, hmmm. hold on
[10:55] <disasm> i'm setting up amd64 breezy with mdadm software raid, i have 4 320 gig sata hd's in the computer, each partition 10M boot, 1G swap 10G / rest /var i did software raid, and joined the drives, and its currently doing resync on the last drive. do i need to wait for the drives to resync before continuing the install? Just asking because I didn't wait originally, and it failed part way through, so I figured I'd let it finish syncing (been almost
[10:55] <tombo_> I mwe, mikem; want to creat an account so that I can make changes to the system.  at the moment I have a terminal and several useless accounts.  I am now su as root!
[10:55] <Zarephath> if [ -d ~/myscripts ]  ; then
[10:55] <Zarephath>     PATH=~/myscripts:"${PATH}"
[10:55] <Zarephath> fi
[10:55] <Zarephath> Should this not work to add the directory to my path?
[10:55] <__mikem> tombo_  it sounds like you want to log in as root
[10:55] <fiendskull9> ryan, i dont know of a widgetm but you can type "netstat" in terminal. and itll show all your current connections. but no guarentee itll give the others IP, most of the time itll give the hostname. for example, im not geting freenodes ip, im getting herbert.freenode.n
[10:56] <__mikem> you need to enable your root account first
[10:56] <ryan> fiendskull9, that's quite alright, thanks for your help
[10:56] <fiendskull9> ryan, word
[10:56] <mwe> tombo_: you need to make sure those users are in the admin group. it seems you did that. now paste /etc/sudoers to pastebin.com
[10:56] <scifi> lol after about 3 hours of arsing about, finally solved refresh rate problem lol
[10:56] <MisterN> n8
[10:56] <bliss1__> DBshOwer: there is a full kernel log here if you need it http://pastebin.ca/49447
[10:57] <__mikem> mwe it sounds like he just wants an account with administrative access, I am not sure how the contents of his sudoers file is going to help us
[10:57] <mwe> Zarephath: you need to export PATH
[10:57] <mirak> how can fireglcontrol from ATI can change /etc/X11/xorg.conf without beeing root ?
[10:57] <mwe> Zarephath: export PATH=${PATH}: ...
[10:58] <Zarephath> mwe: It should work this way too?
[10:58] <mwe> __mikem: it will show if the admin group is set up to allow sudo
[10:58] <Zarephath> Ahhh...it is just checking but not adding it to PATH?
[10:58] <__mikem> oh ok
[10:58] <mwe> Zarephath: you need the export keyword
[10:58] <tombo_> mikem;  I am now logged in as root.  Is there any way I can creat an account with full priveledges.  What do you mean paste /etc sudoers to pastbin.com?....The machine is not on the net
[10:58] <Zarephath> Ok
[10:58] <scifi> when i log out of ubuntu, it then takes me to the non-qui terminal screen, can i get from there to the boot-up list so i can choose to bootup in windows?
[10:58] <__mikem> Um, yes there is tombo_
[10:58] <__mikem> hold on
[10:59] <mwe> Zarephath: your syntax is correct other than that
[10:59] <disasm> tombo_: how many lines are in there?
[10:59] <Tedd> Hi, can someone help me with Gnomebaker? I'm trying to burn an audio CD and it tells me it doesn't have the plugin for it.
[10:59] <mirak> how can fireglcontrol from ATI can change /etc/X11/xorg.conf without beeing root ?
[10:59] <__mikem> you can use the useradd command
[10:59] <tombo_> disasm; how many lines where?
[11:00] <disasm> tombo_: /etc/sudoers
[11:00] <Zarephath> mwe: Will logging out and back in cause it to re-read the .bash_profile?
[11:00] <DBshOwer> yes
[11:00] <mwe> tombo_: you checked that your user is in the admin group, right?
[11:00] <__mikem> tombo_ look at the useradd command, if you want to know how to use it, type man useradd
[11:00] <Tedd> Hi, can someone help me with Gnomebaker? I'm trying to burn an audio CD and it tells me it doesn't have the plugin for it.
[11:00] <disasm> __mikem: why useradd? adduser is so much easier...
[11:01] <scifi> how do i get from non-gui terminal screen to boot up screen?
[11:01] <mwe> Zarephath: yeah. or source .bash_profile
[11:01] <fiendskull9> scifi, startx
[11:01] <disasm> scifi: try startx, should get an error of some sort if theres a problem, otherwise gui should start
[11:01] <__mikem> disasm, I never heard of that command, but based on the man pages it should work to
[11:01] <mwe> Zarephath: changes go to .bashrc normally though. that file should be sourced from .bash_profile
[11:02] <scifi> no that takes me back into ubuntu login screen. i want to get to boot-up list where i can choose to bootup in windows
[11:02] <sublime> Someone  know about the cdmon script ?
[11:02] <mwe> Zarephath: that way it will be sourced wheter it's login shell or not
[11:02] <disasm> __mikem: useradd is great for scripting, but for quickly creating a new user (especially if you don't know how to use useradd) adduser is much easier
[11:02] <martyn_> can any 1 hlp me big time please . i have been installing Nvidia grx driver like the guides that every 1 keeps telling mt to go to. i use them and try to comple the drivers. i have installed gcc3.4 and switched over to them to but every time i use the installer it tells me i need to used 3.4 when i have
[11:02] <crouchingMonkey> how can i find where the conky folder is located ?
[11:02] <Zarephath> mwe: I don't follow..what do you mean "sourced"?
[11:02] <Tedd> Hi, can someone help me with Gnomebaker? I'm trying to burn an audio CD and it tells me it doesn't have the plugin for it. I an't find anything like it in Synaptic.
[11:02] <mwe> Zarephath: read by bash
[11:02] <disasm> crouchingMonkey: you mean config? .conkyrc
[11:02] <__mikem> disasm tell that to the guy who wrote the Linux Bible 2006 Eddition
[11:03] <disasm> __mikem: lol ;-) never read it
[11:03] <__mikem> Well, I need to start somewhere
[11:03] <scifi> no that takes me back into ubuntu login screen. i want to get to boot-up list where i can choose to bootup in windows
[11:03] <Zarephath> mwe: So how do I tie it to .bashrc?
[11:03] <disasm> __mikem: adduser is debian specific so if the books not based on debian, it probably has no clue what adduser is
[11:03] <martyn_> can any 1 hlp me big time please . i have been installing Nvidia grx driver like the guides that every 1 keeps telling mt to go to. i use them and try to comple the drivers. i have installed gcc3.4 and switched over to them to but every time i use the installer it tells me i need to used 3.4 when i have
[11:03] <Tedd> can anybody help me? Please/
[11:04] <mwe> Zarephath: did you change the default .bash_profile?
[11:04] <eli> Hello everyone
[11:04] <disasm> Tedd: problem?
[11:04] <crouchingMonkey> disasm, is it supposed to be in the /home/ ?
[11:04] <Zarephath> mwe: Yes
[11:04] <mwe> Zarephath: ok
[11:04] <Tedd> disasm,  I'm trying to burn an audio CD and it tells me it doesn't have the plugin for it. I an't find anything like it in Synaptic.
[11:04] <slavik> diff outputs nothing if files are the same?
[11:04] <Zarephath> In ~/<myusername>
[11:04] <disasm> crouchingMonkey: /home/disasm/.conkyrc
[11:04] <__mikem> The book includes several distros on its "companion cd" including ubuntu, so I am not entirely sure about that
[11:04] <mwe> Zarephath: my .bash_profile has: if [ -f ~/.bashrc ] ; then; . ~/.bashrc; fi
[11:05] <disasm> Tedd: sorry, i use k3b (about the only kde app i like)
[11:05] <Tedd> Sigh. Thanks anyways.
[11:05] <mwe> Zarephath: that's the default I think. it does nothing but sourcing .bashrc
[11:05] <__mikem> disasm the only reason I don't use KDE is because I can't get it to run in screen resolutions abovr 1024x768,
[11:05] <Tedd> disasm, will K3b work with gnome
[11:05] <martyn_> any 1 here good with installing Nvidia drivers and dont point me to the guides i keep try and they dont work
[11:05] <disasm> Tedd: if you don't mind the extra libraries, sudo apt-get install k3b should do the trick
[11:05] <Zarephath> mwe: Gotcha..thanks
[11:05] <scifi> neone?
[11:05] <Tedd> Cool. Thanks,.
[11:06] <disasm> __mikem: i'm a fluxbox guy
[11:06] <slavik> diff outputs nothing if files are the same?
[11:06] <eli> I have a question about chown, in terminal I have to the following -> sudo chown -R user:**user_name** ~/.ecore
[11:06] <__mikem> oh, I coudl never really get into those alternate DEs
[11:06] <mwe> slavik: no
[11:06] <disasm> __mikem: i used ratpoison and pekwm for a while but they were just a hare to minimal
[11:06] <slavik> mwe: I run diff on 2 files and it doesn't output anything
[11:06] <__mikem> disasm ever use xfce
[11:06] <eli> and i get the error -> `user:john': invalid user
[11:06] <redguy> __mikem: hmm, but selecting resolutions is not a KDE thing, its a X.org setting
[11:06] <disasm> __mikem: yup for about a year or so
[11:07] <mwe> slavik: that should mean they're identical
[11:07] <eli> while using dapper
[11:07] <slavik> oh, ok
[11:07] <redguy> !tell eli about dapper
[11:07] <slavik> that's what I was asking :P
[11:07] <__mikem> redguy, I know thats what puzzled me about it, but I had no such problems while I was in gnome
[11:07] <__mikem> it was just weird
[11:07] <slavik> is there a way to time how long it takes a program to run?
[11:07] <eli> thanks redguy
[11:07] <crimsun> slavik: time
[11:07] <slavik> ty
[11:08] <redguy> slavik: time program
[11:08] <enr1x|MarcosBOX> good night from barcelona!
[11:08] <disasm> slavik: time|program
[11:08] <disasm> i'm late ;-)
[11:08] <enr1x|MarcosBOX> do you know how can i disable the signature checking when apt-getting things_
[11:08] <slavik> got it, ty
[11:08] <mwe> you should use | with time. just time foobar
[11:09] <obscurite> anyone here using dapper as their main OS?
[11:09] <__mikem> nope
[11:09] <mwe> obscurite: yes
[11:09] <__mikem> breezy stilll does the trick for me
[11:09] <e-sin> im interested to see dapper but not until RC1
[11:09] <simonpca> a+, je vais manger | bye, i'm gonna eat something
[11:09] <e-sin> broken != fun
[11:10] <__mikem> I rather not use beta software
[11:10] <obscurite> mwe - how's it going so far?
[11:10] <dbernar1> Ya, but a live CD should do great, e-sin
[11:10] <e-sin> i dont mind beta software, but not a beta OS
[11:10] <mwe> obscurite: pretty good. a few things are broken. I worked around it though
[11:10] <e-sin> just a little too much for me hehe
[11:10] <scifi> if i logout or restart from ubuntu x server it just takes to the terminal, how do i actually restart to get to bootup list?
[11:10] <dbernar1> e-sin: you never tried a live CD of dapper flight6, though.
[11:10] <obscurite> mwe - like what?
[11:10] <obscurite> mwe - and what are your favorite things that are new or improved?
[11:10] <e-sin> dbernar1, no, actually.  i always forget about those hehe
[11:10] <__mikem> Just out of curiousity, are they shiping pressed CDs for Kubuntu yet
[11:11] <dbernar1> scifi: like pressing escape to get the grub menu?
[11:11] <e-sin> dbernar1, think im out of cdrs anyway
[11:11] <dbernar1> __mikem: for dapper?
[11:11] <redguy> scifi: you mean how to reboot?
[11:11] <scifi> dbernar1:yes grub is the word i was looking for, so just press esc when in terminal?
[11:11] <mwe> obscurite: like danish locale not being supported. adept_updater is broken. kdm is broken. checkinstall is broken. using gdm instead and installed checkinstall with a patch myself and changed the locale to en_US
[11:11] <__mikem> yes
[11:12] <scifi> redguy: to get to grub and/or reboot
[11:12] <mwe> obscurite: it's not too bad all in all it works fine
[11:12] <mwe> obscurite: i don't have any problems right now
[11:12] <obscurite> mwe - anything better than 5.10?
[11:12] <redguy> scifi: to get to grub == to reboot in most cases
[11:12] <mirak> is ther a dapper channel ?
[11:12] <mwe> obscurite: well hotplug is gone. that's really great
[11:13] <redguy> scifi: there should be a reboot option somewhere
[11:13] <beefsprocket> mirak: #ubuntu+1
[11:13] <mwe> obscurite: newer versions of programs. overall feeling is about the same
[11:13] <redguy> mirak: see /topic
[11:13] <obscurite> mwe - cool, thanks for your thoughts
[11:13] <Tedd> disasm, I downloaded k3b, but it says Unsupported Format
[11:13] <dbernar1> scifi: ya, just press escape while bootinh.
[11:13] <disasm> Tedd: what format is it?
[11:13] <scifi> redguy: pressing esc in terminal isnt getting me to grub
[11:13] <Tedd> disasm, mp3
[11:14] <disasm> and is it saying the music is unsupported format or the cd is unsupported format?
[11:14] <dbernar1> Tedd: do you have mp3 support otherwise on the computer?
[11:14] <__mikem> ubotu tell Tedd about mp3
[11:14] <redguy> scifi: do you want to reboot from the terminal?
[11:14] <dbernar1> It should just burn, though, it does not need to encode...
[11:14] <scifi> redguy: i want to get to grub from the terminal
[11:14] <Tedd> __mikem, I have heard up down and sideways about mp3 thank you
[11:15] <Tedd> dbernar1, I have mp3 support with XMMS, which is the only thing I use.
[11:15] <__mikem> sorry, I was just trying to help, but if you don't have gstreamer installed, it really isn't going to work
[11:15] <slavik> when time gives te output, which one is the total time it took for the program to run?
[11:15] <redguy> scifi: from terminal as in "no GUI" ? or from terminal as in "a terminal app opened in Gnome or KDE" ?
[11:15] <scifi> redguy: as in no gui
[11:15] <mwe> slavik: all of them
[11:16] <redguy> scifi: #1 press ctrl-alt-del, #2 sudo reboot
[11:16] <disasm> scifi: type grub
[11:16] <mwe> slavik: real is the total
[11:16] <slavik> mwe: thanks
[11:16] <__mikem> what does ctrl alt del do in linux
[11:16] <dbernar1> Tedd: xmms has built-in support for mp3s, it is not system wide. I do not see why k3b would need mp3 support, since it does not need to play the song. Like disasm said, does it say unsupported for the cd, or the files?
[11:16] <Fenrir-> any ubuntu gurus here ?
[11:17] <Tedd> dbernar1, Unsupported format for the files.
[11:17] <slavik> __mikem: open gnome-session-manager or something
[11:17] <mwe> Fenrir-: just ask and you'll see :)
[11:17] <slavik> system monitor
[11:17] <disasm> Tedd: is lame installed?
[11:17] <erUSUL> dbernar1: to make music cd out of mp3 files directly
[11:17] <Fenrir-> i am trying to get ubuntu to notice my usb modem connection :;SSS
[11:17] <scifi> typed grub...looks like grub isnt what i wanted either :P
[11:17] <Tedd> disasm: sudo apt-get install lame?
[11:17] <redguy> Fenrir-: what kind of modem?
[11:17] <mwe> erUSUL: yeah k3b can do that, can't it?
[11:17] <dbernar1> scifi: reboot, press escape
[11:17] <redguy> scifi: what do you want to do then?
[11:17] <disasm> dbernar1: it has to convert from mp3 to wav to put it on a cd in audio format
[11:17] <Fenrir-> Prestige 623 series
[11:18] <mwe> erUSUL: if you install libk3b2-mp3 or something
[11:18] <scifi> i want the list of options which shows ubuntu, ubuntu recoverry mode and at the botton of the list windows xp
[11:18] <tobiassdfsdf> Hey, would someone mind telling me what the URL to the official Ubuntu repository is?
[11:18] <erUSUL> mwe: yes, that's what i said
[11:18] <disasm> Tedd: try it, i don't remember if it's on a restricted source though
[11:18] <Fenrir-> it is connected on this com and i need it to connect to the "ubuntu comp" with the usb thingie
[11:18] <redguy> scifi: reboot then
[11:18] <latrek> I'm having a lot of trouble configuring xserver
[11:18] <dbernar1> disasm: OK, good thinking. Ya, then he has to install some codecs. libmad0 IIRC.
[11:18] <redguy> Fenrir-: does it support linux?
[11:18] <latrek> I di the dpkg xserver
[11:18] <dbernar1> !find libmad
[11:18] <Fenrir-> And the ubuntu is Graphical
[11:18] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package Listing of 'libmad' (4 shown): libmad-ocaml ;; libmad-ocaml-dev ;; libmad0 ;; libmad0-dev.
[11:19] <scifi> so thats my question, i cant get from the non gui terminal to the boot list without rebooting?
[11:19] <Fenrir-> Redguy i think so ;E
[11:19] <Tedd> disasm,  it wasn't installed
[11:19] <Tedd> I just installed it
[11:19] <mwe> latrek: and sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start doesn't work?
[11:19] <Fenrir-> i think ubuntu just doesnt want to notice the internet connection ;S
[11:19] <dbernar1> Tedd: installed libmad0?
[11:19] <latrek> and followed the steps but x server doesn't work
[11:19] <mwe> latrek: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start doesn't work?
[11:19] <tobiassdfsdf> Hey, does anyone know the URL to the Ubuntu repository?
[11:19] <Tedd> dbernar1, I just insatlled lame
[11:19] <Tedd> dbernar1, should I insatll libmad0
[11:20] <latrek> I did startx and it gave me errors
[11:20] <dbernar1> tobiassdfsdf: for apt, or for a browser?
[11:20] <jorgp> I have the flash plugin for mozilla installed, but when I go to startrek.com it says that flash is required, what did I do wrong?
[11:20] <xorian`> what's a good ftp client that supports SSL, TLS and FXP for in Ubuntu?
[11:20] <tobiassdfsdf> dbernar1: for apt
[11:20] <Tedd> dbernar1, its installed arlready
[11:20] <mwe> latrek: try sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[11:20] <dbernar1> Tedd: try with what you have now, then try libmad if it don't work
[11:20] <latrek> ok mwe
[11:20] <mwe> latrek: or pastebin.com the eroor
[11:20] <dbernar1> tobiassdfsdf: archives.ubuntu.com
[11:20] <tobiassdfsdf> dbernar: thanks
[11:20] <disasm> Tedd: what about k3b-mp3 if that doesn't work
[11:20] <dbernar1> tobiassdfsdf: also /msg ubotu sources
[11:20] <redguy> Fenrir-: what kind of modem is it? ADSL perhaps?
[11:21] <bdash_> is there a good utorrent equivalent in linux (small fooprint, good features, quick)?
[11:21] <jorgp> bdash_: no
[11:21] <tobiassdfsdf> dbernar1: so "deb http://archives.ubuntu.com"?
[11:21] <Tedd> disasm, that fixed it
[11:21] <jorgp> bdash_: ktorrent is close, but mising many features compared to utorrent
[11:21] <dbernar1> Tedd: OK, cool.
[11:21] <Prohibited> Some guy keeps DoSing me..... How can I stop DoS attacks or make it harder to DoS my site :(
[11:22] <disasm> Tedd: awesome, perfect timing to, cause servers going to be ready for me to do stuff in less than a minute!
[11:22] <dbernar1> tobiassdfsdf: I like http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11487
[11:22] <Tedd> Sweet, dbernar1, disasm thanks
[11:22] <Fenrir-> 00:20:39) (redguy) Fenrir-: what kind of modem is it? ADSL perhaps?
[11:22] <Fenrir-> yep adsl
[11:22] <latrek> mwe, I did /etc/init.d/gdm start but it failed
[11:23] <dbernar1> And do you know what IP address you get when you are connected? Fenrir-
[11:23] <mwe> latrek: what error?
[11:23] <redguy> !tell fernir about nicktab
[11:23] <erUSUL> Fenrir-: go and take a look over here http://zyxel630-11.sourceforge.net/
[11:23] <tobiassdfsdf> dbernar1: sweet, thanks
[11:23] <redguy> !tell Fenrir- about nicktab
[11:23] <dbernar1> haha
[11:23] <latrek> hold on, the errors is on another computer so I can't paste it
[11:23] <Sn3f3ru> anyone knows how to keep two folders syncronized on file change via scp? From windows I was using WinSCP, but from linux to linux I haven't found yet something
[11:24] <mwe> latrek: look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[11:24] <dbernar1> Sn3f3ru: why not make a network folder?
[11:24] <erUSUL> Sn3f3ru: scp?
[11:24] <Sn3f3ru> I need two copies
[11:24] <mwe> latrek: grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[11:24] <Sn3f3ru> scp knows about file change?
[11:24] <erUSUL> Sn3f3ru: rsync ?
[11:24] <Sn3f3ru> no rsync
[11:24] <latrek> it said fatal server error: no screens found
[11:24] <Sn3f3ru> I can't install anything on the remote server
[11:25] <Sn3f3ru> and rsync is not available
[11:25] <mwe> latrek: you probably didn't answer the questions correctly
[11:25] <latrek> mwe is it because I'm using a kvm switch?
[11:25] <erUSUL> Sn3f3ru: well rsync was designed for that kind of usage scenario
[11:25] <Tux> demo
[11:25] <scifi> fenrir: they have some drivers here http://accessrunner.sourceforge.net/, but i dont know how to install them, i have the same problem as u with my usb adsl modem router
[11:25] <Torpedo> .
[11:25] <mwe> latrek: I don't know. I don't know much about kvm
[11:25] <Sn3f3ru> thank you
[11:26] <Prohibited> How can I prevent dos attacks on my server.....Firewall suggestions? I don't know much about DoS at all =\
[11:26] <_-AnTHo-_> hey, anyone know how to label mounted drives say hdc2 to something else?
[11:27] <dbernar1> DoS is when someone ties up your resources so noone else can access them. Spoofing requests to your server.
[11:27] <Prohibited> Pinging...etc right
[11:27] <Prohibited> Constant pings that is ^
[11:27] <Fenrir-> scifi ic
[11:28] <Prohibited> Well do you know how I can prevent it or make it harder for someone to dos me? It's beginning to annoy me badly
[11:28] <redguy> Prohibited: what makes you think that you are DoSsed?
[11:29] <Prohibited> Some guy told me he had his "hacker" friend DoS me, and my connection like died for HOURS last night
[11:29] <dbernar1> Prohibited: can you explain more about your issue in one line?
[11:30] <Prohibited> sure dbernar, pretty much I need to prevent people from DoSing me. I got knocked offline quite fast last night and they are saying it will happen again if I don't make one of them a mod on my chat.
[11:31] <dbernar1> Prohibited: kicked off line, like, lost your IP address, or how exactly.
[11:32] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Prohibited: get their IP addresses, and report those to their ISP
[11:32] <redguy> Prohibited: well, you might report this to your ISP, they might block the IPs that you are DoSed from for example
[11:32] <Prohibited> I'm not completely sure... I just know once he said he was going to get my site hacked everyone was saying my site was lagging, and loading really slow... so I pinged my IP and it was over 200 ms, then I tried rebooting, which made it even slower it seemed... It came back a few times but loaded really slow
[11:32] <Fenrir-> i am transferin files from this comp to the linux comp with my portable mp3 player
[11:33] <Fenrir-> where i can find the file paths , where i have to add the files and run em then in the console thingie
[11:33] <shinu> where can find the airodump package?
[11:33] <shinu> which repos that is
[11:34] <fiendskull9> !airodump
[11:34] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, fiendskull9
[11:34] <fiendskull9> hmmm
[11:34] <shinu> :/
[11:35] <tburdick> I tried installing cinelerra, but there's a bunch of old dependencies, is there any official way of installing cinelerra that works?
[11:35] <dbernar1> shinu: /msg ubotu info airodump
[11:35] <shinu> okay
[11:35] <tburdick> and why isn't it in the repos to begin with... its gpl, and a very nice piece of softwre
[11:35] <_-AnTHo-_> hey, anyone know how to label mounted drives say hdc2 to something else?
[11:35] <martyn_> can any 1 help me with nvida install problems
[11:36] <PuMpErNiCkLe> !anyone
[11:36] <dbernar1> ubotu: tell tburdick about cinelerra
[11:36] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[11:36] <shinu> ohh... it was all in aircrack package :] 
[11:36] <tburdick> dbernar1: the link is dead for the getting
[11:36] <tburdick> and I believe I followed those instructions already
[11:37] <tburdick> and thats where I came across dependencies that were too old
[11:37] <tburdick> cinelerra claimed there weren't up to date versions available
[11:37] <tburdick> of libdv and something else
[11:38] <martyn_> i cant install Nvidia drivers at all it keeps telling that i need to compile with gcc 3.4 and i have this on not 4.0 i am stuck . i have followed the guids but still no luck can any 1 help?
[11:38] <Tm_T> martyn_: err
[11:38] <theblue> Hi all.
[11:38] <Tm_T> !nvidia
[11:38] <ubotu> somebody said nvidia was at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[11:38] <theblue> Does anyone here use cwirc?
[11:38] <PuMpErNiCkLe> martyn_: 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx'
[11:38] <tburdick> so once again, are there any working packages for cinelerra somewhere? or atleast a place where I can get cinelerra dependencies?
[11:38] <PuMpErNiCkLe> martyn_: That will install the official nvidia driver for you, without having to compile anything. :)
[11:38] <martyn_> i need the Newist drivers as i have a 7900gtx
[11:39] <PuMpErNiCkLe> martyn_: ah
[11:39] <martyn_> PuMpErNiCkLe; will that install the latest driver
[11:40] <PuMpErNiCkLe> martyn_: Nope. :o
[11:40] <TheMonoTone> all I need to do is edit a video file, is there anything else besides cinelerra or kino that can do this?
[11:40] <martyn_> PuMpErNiCkLe: i need the latetst on for my card because no outher will recgonise it
[11:40] <TheMonoTone> since it seems impossible to get cinelerra working in any short amount of time
[11:41] <martyn_> any ideas
[11:42] <dbernar1> TheMonoTone: You are sure you followed all those repositories the walkthrough suggests.
[11:42] <mwe> martyn_: what was the problem in following the guide you found?
[11:42] <LinuxNoob|Scott> how about the ATI drivers - I have a x850 Radeon
[11:42] <TheMonoTone> yes
[11:42] <LinuxNoob|Scott> is there a quick easy way to get it?
[11:42] <mwe> !ati
[11:42] <ubotu> [ati]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[11:42] <mwe> LinuxNoob|Scott: read that
[11:42] <TheMonoTone> they don't have the correct versions, is what the cinelerra package claims
[11:42] <martyn_> mwe: ok i followed section 2 as it said it would install latest driver
[11:43] <mwe> martyn_: and?
[11:43] <TheMonoTone> cinelerra wants libdv 5.2, latest version available from said repos is 5.0.2 or something like that
[11:43] <LinuxNoob|Scott> why dont the links work without right clicking?
[11:43] <beta_m> hey, does anybody know how to install wine, i added the repository the way it says on their website, and yet there's no wine in the list after i search for it... q;-(
[11:44] <mabus06> sudo apt-get install wine
[11:44] <TheMonoTone> if it works for you, please let me know what deb sources your using then
[11:44] <scifi> fenrir, if u ever work it out, pls let me know :)
[11:44] <mwe> beta_m: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install wine
[11:44] <martyn_> mwe: i download drivers. install gcc 3.4 and swap from gcc4.0 to 3.4, then try to install drivers . it wantt o cplile them its self and it keeps telling me that i need gcc3.4  when it is gcc3.4
[11:44] <odin_> I know I have a java interpretor, but does ubuntu have a java compiler?
[11:44] <mwe> beta_m: that should work unless you fscked your sources.list
[11:44] <TheMonoTone> cinelerra: Depends: libavc1394-0 (>= 0.5.2) but 0.5.0-2 is to be installed
[11:44] <TheMonoTone> thats one of about 5 errors I get
[11:44] <TheMonoTone> for versions
[11:44] <mwe> martyn_: does gcc --version confirm that?
[11:45] <mabus06> odin_: get the jdk
[11:45] <mabus06> from the sun website
[11:45] <linuxgeekery> ah... nice XGL goodness finally working :)
[11:45] <martyn_> mwe: yes. the guid i used whas this 1 http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75074
[11:45] <beta_m> thanks mwe, so why didn't it work in the graphical mode?
[11:46] <martyn_> mwe:
[11:46] <martyn_> mwe:cc (GCC) 3.4.5 20050809 (prerelease)
[11:46] <dbernar1> TheMonoTone: post the errors to paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[11:46] <conmiweb> hello anybody has intel graphics processor on a lapatop?
[11:46] <odin_> mabus06:  is that on the ubuntu archive?  can't find it
[11:46] <TheMonoTone> one moment
[11:46] <vader> hey
[11:46] <Chris_C> can someone help me get my flash card to mount in the reader?
[11:46] <mabus06> !tell odin_ about java
[11:46] <mabus06> odin_: Just get the jdk instead of the jre
[11:46] <Chris_C> it used to work, and now when I plug it in ... nothing
[11:47] <Doomhammer> guys i need some help configuring xorg... my xorg.conf doesn't work - here's the one that doesn't work, with the differences from the working one highlighted: http://pastebin.com/662153
[11:47] <Chris_C> I've already searched ubuntuforums
[11:47] <martyn_> mwe: any ideas
[11:47] <linuxgeekery> Chris_C: is the reader usb?
[11:47] <Toby24> Hi how to update my ooo  to ooo 2,0 ?
[11:47] <linuxgeekery> Toby24: apt-get upgrade
[11:48] <TheMonoTone> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12342
[11:48] <mwe> martyn_: I don't know why it tells you to setup a root password
[11:48] <dbernar1> ooo is jjust that. ooo2 is a diff. app altogether. Really you will not be updating.
[11:48] <Toby24> apt-get upgrade openofficeorg?
[11:48] <disasm> doing an install with breezy amd64 have a sata software raid, it's installing grub and taking forever on probing devices, is it normal to take a long time with 4 sata 320 gig hd's?
[11:48] <mathieu_> org
[11:48] <Fenrir-> http://accessrunner.sourceforge.net/driver.shtml
[11:48] <dbernar1> Toby24: do you run breezy?
[11:48] <Toby24> yes
[11:48] <Fenrir-> How to install those drivers
[11:48] <Chris_C> linuxgeekery: yes
[11:48] <disasm> Toby24: apt-get install openoffice.org
[11:48] <martyn_> mwe: well i ahve tried for days now no 1 has a clue
[11:49] <jsmidt> Does anybody know what to do about this error when I type startx?fatal server error:could not open default font 'fixed'
[11:49] <mwe> martyn_: anyway can't you just sudo -i then run the installer?
[11:49] <disasm> Toby24: err apt-get install openoffice.org2
[11:49] <mwe> martyn_: if gcc --version still says 3.4-something?
[11:49] <Doomhammer> sorry to repeat myself, guys i need some help configuring xorg... my xorg.conf doesn't work - here's the one that doesn't work, with the differences from the working one highlighted: http://pastebin.com/662153
[11:49] <martyn_> mwe:its when i try to install it it says i can becaus ei need 3.4
[11:49] <Doomhammer> i'm trying to get xinerama to handle my dual displays
[11:50] <dbernar1> jsmidt: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:50] <mwe> martyn_: that makes no sense
[11:50] <arrick> mwe, check ou tmy site so far, http://arrick.no-ip.com
[11:50] <linuxgeekery> Chris_C: ok...
[11:50] <arrick> mwe, by the way good evening
[11:50] <martyn_> i dont know
[11:50] <mwe> arrick: hey
[11:50] <dbernar1> arrick: *khm* spam *khm*
[11:50] <TheMonoTone> dbernar1: any ideas?
[11:50] <linuxgeekery> Chris_C: what did you mount it as before? sda? hda? something else?
[11:51] <martyn_> mwe: is there any way i can pull up an install log that u can look at
[11:51] <arrick> spam? when i talk to a friend?
[11:51] <Chris_C> linuxgeekery:  It would automount, I believe as sda
[11:51] <Enr1x|Marquinhos> hello!
[11:51] <linuxgeekery> Chris_C: was it in fstab?
[11:51] <dbernar1> TheMonoTone: I will look now.
[11:51] <TheMonoTone> thanks
[11:51] <Jowi> hi everyone
[11:51] <dbernar1> TheMonoTone: post your sources.list too, please.
[11:51] <ohzie> Has anyone gotten cedega running on ubuntu?
[11:51] <TheMonoTone> no problem
[11:51] <Chris_C> I don't know ... tell me more ... /etc/fstab?
[11:52] <erUSUL> Doomhammer: afaik xinerama and twinview are not compatible
[11:52] <erUSUL> Doomhammer: you have one or the other but not both
[11:52] <mwe> arrick: it looks good
[11:52] <linuxgeekery> Chris_C: yes. is there an entry in there under /dev/sd something?
[11:52] <Chris_C> linuxgeekery: it's not in fstab
[11:52] <linuxgeekery> Chris_C: hmmm.
[11:52] <erUSUL> Doomhammer: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=387&num=1
[11:52] <TheMonoTone> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12343
[11:52] <Chris_C> linuxgeekery: should it be if it's supposed to automount?
[11:52] <mwe> martyn_: I need to figure out why it doesn't reconize gcc-3.4
[11:52] <Doomhammer> erUSUL: thanks
[11:52] <Jowi> !tell ohzie about cedega
[11:52] <mwe> martyn_: what does ls -l /usr/bin/gcc say?
[11:53] <TheMonoTone> thats my sources.list file
[11:53] <erUSUL> Doomhammer: no problem
[11:53] <linuxgeekery> Chris_C: wait... do you want it to mount every time at boot or just when you plug it in?
[11:53] <hijackedpen> i m in a gr8 problem :(
[11:53] <hijackedpen> plz help me
[11:53] <linuxgeekery> hijackedpen: do tell ;P
[11:53] <Chris_C> linuxgeekery: just when I plug it in
[11:53] <Doomhammer> erUSUL: one more ? ... is the xinerama line in the right place, in the ServerFlags section ?
[11:53] <linuxgeekery> Chris_C: OH! I was thinking about at boot...
[11:53] <Jowi> hijackedpen: first you might want to say what your problem is
[11:54] <Chris_C> right, the autodetect/hotplug part seems to not work anymore
[11:54] <linuxgeekery> Chris_C: ok
[11:54] <dbernar1> TheMonoTone: OK. a few secs.
[11:54] <linuxgeekery> Chris_C: run this in a terminal: ps ax | grep hal and see if it comes up with anything
[11:54] <hijackedpen> i am having compaq presario laptop and i wanna install ubuntu 5.10... i tried it 6 times again and again but i am always facing the problem of debootstraperror :(
[11:54] <TheMonoTone> thx
[11:54] <martyn_> mwe:llrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 16 2006-04-15 21:50 /usr/bin/gcc -> /usr/bin/gcc-3.4
[11:54] <hijackedpen> i really wanna use it
[11:54] <hijackedpen> plz help
[11:54] <jadaz87> hello i was wondering if the result of this command was a temporary or permanent: export LC_ALL=C
[11:55] <mwe> arrick: the image on contact looks somewhat garbled though
[11:55] <mwe> martyn_: it sounds like the installer is broken then
[11:55] <linuxgeekery> hijackedpen: well... maybe it's a faulty burn
[11:55] <Chris_C> linuxgeekery: three hits, including /usr/sbin/hald
[11:55] <kingspawn> jadaz87: temp
[11:55] <slizardo> hello
[11:55] <slizardo> Please help me!!
[11:55] <jadaz87> kingspawn thank you :-)
[11:55] <hijackedpen> i have burned it correctly sir
[11:55] <jadaz87> !patience
[11:55] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Please be aware there are a lot of questions, but only maybe few who might know the answer for you. Please be patient. Your attitude may determine their willingness to help you.
[11:55] <slizardo> Where can i find the gnome-sharp library?
[11:56] <martyn_> mwe: i have tried the old version to and get the same problem
[11:56] <linuxgeekery> Chris_C: well, that part's fine. hald is responsible for gnome's automounting features
[11:56] <martyn_> mwe: and the 64 version
[11:56] <mwe> martyn_: I don't know why
[11:56] <mwe> martyn_: I think it sounds broken
[11:56] <linuxgeekery> Chris_C: did you upgrade recently?
[11:56] <dbernar1> TheMonoTone: is your computer a pentium?
[11:56] <TheMonoTone> athlon
[11:56] <martyn_> ah well i think i should give up on ubuntu now lol
[11:57] <Chris_C> linuxgeekery: nope, just Breezy
[11:57] <dbernar1> The AthlonXP thing?
[11:57] <TheMonoTone> 2 athlon mp's to be exact
[11:57] <Chris_C> this happened once before and it fixed itself, IIRC
[11:57] <TheMonoTone> basically
[11:57] <dbernar1> TheMonoTone: /exec -o uname -r
[11:57] <TheMonoTone> dbernar1: but yeah, amd chip :-)
[11:57] <hijackedpen> when 6.10 will release??
[11:57] <Chris_C> nothing shows up in dmesg when I plug it in
[11:58] <mwe> martyn_: I mean it says you need gcc-3.4 but that's what you have
[11:58] <TheMonoTone> 2.6.12-9-386
[11:58] <linuxgeekery> Chris_C: really?
[11:58] <hijackedpen> when 6.10 will release??
[11:58] <tonyyarusso> hijackedpen: In the tenth month of 2006.
[11:58] <dbernar1> TheMonoTone: you have a 386 kernel installed.
[11:58] <hijackedpen> :)
[11:58] <tonyyarusso> hijackedpen: 6.06 comes first though.
[11:58] <Jowi> hijackedpen: according to this thread ( http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76316&page=1 ) it might still be a bad burn, did you check the md5 of the iso you downloaded?
[11:58] <martyn_> mwe: i know
[11:58] <hijackedpen> cool:)
[11:58] <TheMonoTone> yeah I know
[11:58] <Chris_C> linuxgeekery: yes, really :)
[11:58] <TheMonoTone> I haven't bothered to upgrade
[11:59] <TheMonoTone> I was going to do that as soon as I got cinelerra
[11:59] <dbernar1> TheMonoTone: OK, we need those packages then.
[11:59] <hijackedpen> i installed it from the original distribution also
[11:59] <linuxgeekery> Chris_C: try plugging it in and rebooting with it plugged in. maybe there's a problem with ubuntu's hw detection. it redetects on boot
[11:59] <hijackedpen> but got the same error
[11:59] <dbernar1> TheMonoTone: I will get you a sources.list as best as I can. I am at work, though, so it will take a few.
[11:59] <hijackedpen> i think that distribution is scratched:-s
[11:59] <Chris_C> yuck
[11:59] <mwe> martyn_: can't you email someone from support maybe
[11:59] <TheMonoTone> ok
[11:59] <TheMonoTone> thanks