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pygi | To everyone around here: Happy easter to you, and everyone you care for :) | 01:43 |
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HedgeMage | :) | 01:44 |
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HedgeMage | Hiya pygi | 01:45 |
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HedgeMage | what's up? | 01:48 |
pygi | HedgeMage: nm, sleeping :) | 01:49 |
pygi | you? | 01:49 |
HedgeMage | family stuff, mostly | 01:52 |
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fxc065 | helllo | 09:40 |
fxc065 | is there a good place/chat/app that an edubuntu kid could go 2 interact w. fellow kids online? | 09:42 |
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dgd | anyone here responsible for website at edubuntu.org? | 01:27 |
dgd | found a typo | 01:27 |
dgd | can't find contact email address | 01:27 |
dgd | found it | 01:30 |
dgd | webmaster@ubuntulinux.org | 01:31 |
highvoltage | dgd: i can fix it | 01:38 |
highvoltage | dgd: i am responsible for it | 01:38 |
dgd | k | 01:39 |
dgd | first page | 01:39 |
dgd | wikii | 01:39 |
dgd | should be wiki | 01:39 |
dgd | sorryu | 01:39 |
highvoltage | hmmm... can't find it :/ | 01:39 |
dgd | copy paste isn't working... | 01:39 |
dgd | dang | 01:39 |
highvoltage | where on the page is it? | 01:39 |
dgd | http://www.edubuntu.org/news.html | 01:40 |
dgd | there it is | 01:40 |
dgd | wikii | 01:40 |
dgd | should be wiki | 01:40 |
highvoltage | aha, got it. | 01:40 |
dgd | :) | 01:40 |
highvoltage | fixed | 01:40 |
dgd | many eyeballs makes for shallow bugs ... :) | 01:40 |
dgd | :) | 01:40 |
highvoltage | hehe, yes. perhaps someone just assumed that wikii is plural for wiki :) | 01:40 |
dgd | yup | 01:40 |
fxc065 | hell o again | 01:41 |
fxc065 | is there a good place/chat/app that an edubuntu kid could go 2 interact w. fellow kids online? | 01:41 |
dgd | kid as in under 18? | 01:41 |
fxc065 | im setting up for my kid | 01:41 |
fxc065 | 10 | 01:41 |
fxc065 | yes | 01:41 |
fxc065 | i dont find paltalk safe | 01:41 |
dgd | gotcha... | 01:41 |
fxc065 | thats what i found so far.. | 01:41 |
dgd | hmm | 01:42 |
dgd | problem he | 01:42 |
dgd | never thought of that one... | 01:42 |
dgd | can't help but it's a good question | 01:42 |
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fxc065 | she wants to get into blogging and writing :) | 01:42 |
dgd | safe chats | 01:42 |
fxc065 | dgd oh wow | 01:42 |
dgd | tough to call on that one | 01:42 |
fxc065 | so you got ubuntu on your school already?? :))))) | 01:43 |
dgd | the stuff I see my students using makes my head hurt... | 01:43 |
dgd | ran an LTSP network for a couple of years. | 01:43 |
fxc065 | lol | 01:43 |
dgd | doing vids now on how to use edubuntu... | 01:43 |
dgd | you can see some of 'em here: | 01:44 |
dgd | http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=dennis+daniels%2Bedubuntu | 01:44 |
dgd | got to get back to it... | 01:44 |
dgd | but I'll put some cycles on your problme | 01:44 |
dgd | s /problme/problem | 01:45 |
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fxc065 | lol @ s /problme/problem | 02:14 |
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bobulator | happy easter people! | 02:56 |
bobulator | simple question today probably with a negative answer... is there any way to make the language selectable on the thin clients? | 02:57 |
highvoltage | hi bobulator | 03:02 |
bobulator | hey highvoltage | 03:02 |
highvoltage | "happy easter people" sounds in my head like "shiny happy people" from R.E.M. | 03:02 |
bobulator | oh god | 03:02 |
bobulator | id like to take that back | 03:02 |
highvoltage | hehe :) | 03:02 |
highvoltage | bobulator: i'm not sure | 03:03 |
bobulator | they dont really seem to have much language support as it is, im guessing theres probably several things preventing it working... | 03:03 |
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bobulator | as always i m always seeking for the, "oh, just apt-get install package X" answer ;) | 03:04 |
Yagisan | bobulator: as someone that also needs that support, it seems that at the moment, the answer is no :( | 03:05 |
bobulator | boo :( | 03:06 |
Yagisan | bobulator: you would want to file a bug on the ldm package | 03:06 |
bobulator | i;m gonna try and rope one of the eritrayans into doing some translation work at some point... | 03:06 |
bobulator | yeah good thinking | 03:08 |
bobulator | have you had much luck with using scim to change keyboard setups on the fly, Yagisan? | 03:08 |
Yagisan | bobulator: no, not since hoary. Actually, it is rather frustrating for me at the moment. It works fine if I log in with a non-english system setting, and not at all if I log in with english :( | 03:10 |
bobulator | right! | 03:11 |
bobulator | yeah i think the main problem is when people have webmail accounts | 03:11 |
Yagisan | bobulator: I have a need for scim to work, but the menus etc in english, as I'm an english native speaker | 03:11 |
bobulator | they cant really type passwords in... | 03:11 |
bobulator | ah ok | 03:11 |
Yagisan | bobulator: I can even access my data via the command line! | 03:11 |
bobulator | cool! | 03:12 |
Yagisan | not without having to press tab tab tab enter anyway | 03:12 |
Yagisan | not to self. learn to type | 03:12 |
bobulator | :D | 03:12 |
bobulator | i dont really get why scim doesnt work, i mean you can enter shortcuts and stuff, they just dont work | 03:12 |
Yagisan | I have data that can't be easily accessed since the upgrade from breezy | 03:12 |
bobulator | maybe i should file a bug on that too... | 03:12 |
bobulator | because of filenames? | 03:13 |
Yagisan | I don't think they configured it to work | 03:13 |
Yagisan | unless you have a non-english locale | 03:13 |
Yagisan | I've haven been able to get ahold of the scim guy to ask actually | 03:13 |
bobulator | ahh ok | 03:14 |
Yagisan | bobulator: filesnames ? yeah I have data in directories like | 03:14 |
bobulator | haha i see :) | 03:14 |
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bobulator | yeah haha | 03:15 |
bobulator | i think ill file a bug on scim | 03:15 |
Yagisan | bobulator: for some apps (gnome only I think) you can right click and be asked for an input meathod | 03:16 |
bobulator | oh yeah? cool | 03:16 |
Yagisan | but then you need to know that you should pick scim | 03:16 |
Yagisan | then you need to tell scim what keyboard you want | 03:16 |
bobulator | yeah exactly... | 03:16 |
Yagisan | then you type | 03:16 |
bobulator | hmm where do you do the rightclicking? | 03:17 |
Yagisan | I did it in the typing area on gedit | 03:17 |
bobulator | ah ok... | 03:17 |
dgd | anyone running XP on the same network as their edubuntu install? | 03:17 |
Yagisan | it is such a pain to get scim working, how would my wife get it to work ? | 03:17 |
bobulator | ah ok! that works! | 03:18 |
Yagisan | she doesn't know what scim is, let alone how to turn it on | 03:18 |
dgd | just a pitch for evangelism... | 03:18 |
bobulator | are there any browsers it works in? hmmm | 03:18 |
dgd | record what you learn as you learn it... | 03:18 |
Yagisan | bobulator: nope | 03:18 |
Yagisan | dgd: no xp here. | 03:18 |
dgd | screencasting is primitive under linux still ... wink 2.0 just came out... | 03:19 |
dgd | I screencast all of my activiity under linux and publish it | 03:19 |
dgd | too many don't know what the interface looks like | 03:19 |
dgd | thought it useful to publish more vids | 03:19 |
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bobulator | Yagisan: perhaps the scim shortcuts dont work because the individual rpograms dont support it? | 03:19 |
Yagisan | dgd: well, the problem is, she needs scim for non-english, as, well, she's not a native english speaker, and computer words change so quickly, she doesn't know how to translate them. | 03:19 |
Yagisan | bobulator: well, it worked for me in hoary ... | 03:20 |
dgd | understood | 03:20 |
bobulator | hmm fair! | 03:20 |
bobulator | and i guess it works when you just switch the whole system over... hmm | 03:20 |
Yagisan | yes it does | 03:20 |
Yagisan | then I have a problem. | 03:20 |
Yagisan | I speak more then I can read | 03:21 |
bobulator | Yagisan: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/scim/+bug/28879 ?? | 03:21 |
Yagisan | so teaching her how to use the new features becomes rather hard, when I can't read what it is | 03:21 |
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bobulator | hmm i dont even get that far! | 03:23 |
Yagisan | bobulator: nope. while I agree with the title, that only can happen if you use gnome desktop, and type into gnome and kde apps at the same time. (actuallly a gnome bug) | 03:25 |
bobulator | ahh | 03:25 |
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bobulator | haha | 03:25 |
bobulator | but, you cant change the language for individual apps either, yeah? | 03:26 |
Yagisan | no, I used to have a little keyboard icon near the trash that I could use to set the language | 03:26 |
bobulator | yeah cool | 03:28 |
bobulator | hmm | 03:28 |
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pygi | spacey: Ping pong long trong song bong :) | 03:40 |
bobulator | right i might venture out into the sunlight... shock horror | 03:47 |
dgd | don't do it don't do it! | 03:49 |
dgd | UV! Sunburn! Other human beings! | 03:49 |
dgd | Ack | 03:49 |
dgd | :) | 03:49 |
bobulator | i know | 03:51 |
bobulator | selling out my vampire comrades | 03:51 |
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highvoltage | bobulator: in the mood for more spellchecking? :) | 04:20 |
bobulator | spelchecking? | 04:21 |
highvoltage | bobulator: you sent me the type from edubuntu.org, right? | 04:21 |
highvoltage | d'oh! | 04:21 |
highvoltage | that was dgd | 04:21 |
highvoltage | bobulator: sorry, spending too much time with the pc | 04:22 |
dgd | yep that was me.... | 04:22 |
bobulator | haha did i? maybe? | 04:23 |
bobulator | oooh :D my typing is appauling though | 04:23 |
bobulator | i think that was a spelling mistake... | 04:23 |
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dgd | g'night from dubai! | 04:29 |
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pawsilver | I have just downloaded the latest version of Edubuntu. It works fine until I run the update manager and after 3 hrs of downloads and installations my system crashes after entering my name and password. Help?? | 05:27 |
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flint | ogra, Olli, did I do a bad thing when I created gin? | 05:48 |
flint | ogra, in your opinion i mean? | 05:48 |
highvoltage | flint: look what you've done now! you've offended ogra! | 06:00 |
highvoltage | :) | 06:00 |
flint | highvoltage, Jonathan, you have never heard of FITS (Flint Induced Touretts Syndrome :^) | 06:01 |
highvoltage | flint: it sounds familiar :) | 06:09 |
highvoltage | flint: mr flint, somehow i think that i have that too :) | 06:09 |
flint | highvoltage, indeed you are on the twin paths to both enlightment and rage. Take comfort in knowing that there is only one carrier... :^0 | 06:10 |
highvoltage | hehe. hope i have a 1st class ticket | 06:10 |
flint | highvoltage, nice touch... what is up btw. I am employed now and have less time to piss off the edubuntu mafia... | 06:11 |
highvoltage | the edubuntu mafia morns. | 06:13 |
highvoltage | well, i'm trying to do less and less, yet i'm getting busier and busier | 06:13 |
highvoltage | things are going slightly less quiet at work, which is nice, it means that i gradually have more and more time for edubuntu | 06:14 |
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highvoltage | Bluekuja: ah, you are here :) | 08:02 |
Bluekuja | yeah | 08:06 |
Bluekuja | you didnt see me before? | 08:06 |
Bluekuja | im alwais connected | 08:06 |
Bluekuja | in all channels | 08:06 |
Bluekuja | ^^ | 08:06 |
HedgeMage | Bluekuja: perhaps highvoltage meant that you don't look very idle atm ? | 08:10 |
Bluekuja | jon? | 08:10 |
Bluekuja | hehe yeah | 08:10 |
Bluekuja | maybe he saw me in other channels | 08:11 |
Bluekuja | but not here | 08:11 |
Bluekuja | (im alwais here) | 08:11 |
Bluekuja | ^^ | 08:11 |
highvoltage | no, i thought that Bluekuja wasn't here :) | 08:14 |
highvoltage | i think i just missed his name in the names list somehow | 08:15 |
Bluekuja | yeah^^ | 08:16 |
Bluekuja | jon im creating team presentation | 08:17 |
Bluekuja | 10 minutes and the page is available | 08:17 |
highvoltage | ok | 08:17 |
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pygi | highvoltage: poke :) | 08:29 |
highvoltage | ouch | 08:30 |
highvoltage | :) | 08:30 |
pygi | higvoltage: have you assigned urself to a chapter or two? :) | 08:37 |
highvoltage | pygi: installation :) | 08:44 |
pygi | highvoltage:hm, you are nowhere around here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToCookEdubuntu/Worksheet | 08:45 |
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highvoltage | hmm.. hedgemadge's name is on installation | 08:47 |
highvoltage | can i take it out and put my name there? :) | 08:47 |
highvoltage | (since i've done the installation part, mostly) | 08:48 |
pygi | highvoltage: uh, huh :-P Ok, should do, but you must contact her :) | 08:48 |
pygi | and tell her she can do some things from part IV and part V if she wants to | 08:49 |
highvoltage | hedgemadge is a she!? | 08:49 |
pygi | highvoltage: also, answer to ur question | 08:49 |
pygi | highvoltage: yup, what's so strange in that? | 08:49 |
highvoltage | pygi: it's not strange, just very cool. | 08:50 |
pygi | highvoltage: you can for example, if you write installation put it here "https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToCookEdubuntu/Chapters/Installation" and provide link in chapters | 08:51 |
pygi | highvoltage: can you please contact her and explain the situation? | 08:51 |
highvoltage | pygi: yep | 08:52 |
pygi | highvoltage: thanks | 08:52 |
highvoltage | pygi: what's her realname / email address | 08:52 |
highvoltage | pygi: i haven't added my name to too much, i don't want to commit to more than i can do at this stage | 08:52 |
highvoltage | pygi: but that doesn't mean i'm not interested. i'll commit to some more in the future | 08:52 |
pygi | HedgeMage | 08:53 |
pygi | -AT- | 08:53 |
pygi | binaryredneck | 08:53 |
pygi | -DOT- | 08:53 |
pygi | net | 08:53 |
pygi | highvoltage: the thingy you written is for workstation? | 08:54 |
highvoltage | pygi: server | 08:54 |
pygi | highvoltage: the PART III is for workstation | 08:55 |
highvoltage | pygi: sorry, i see now | 08:55 |
pygi | highvoltage: some parts you wrote also belong somewhere else :) | 08:55 |
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highvoltage | getting late here | 08:56 |
pygi | yup, aware of that :) | 08:56 |
highvoltage | perhaps i should just take chapter 5 for now | 08:57 |
highvoltage | most of the other stuff is mostly taken | 08:57 |
pygi | highvoltage: please add a installation part to beginning of part2 *server installation* | 08:57 |
pygi | if you want, ofcourse :) | 08:58 |
highvoltage | ok | 08:58 |
highvoltage | iwll do | 08:58 |
pygi | highvoltage: also, the things you written might be used for other parts of the book as well, so it's all good :) | 08:58 |
highvoltage | geez, it's only 9pm! feels like 11 :) | 09:00 |
highvoltage | flint: still there? | 09:09 |
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lucasvo | highvoltage: here? | 09:11 |
lucasvo | highvoltage: you are doing the homepage, aren't you? | 09:11 |
highvoltage | lucasvo: yep | 09:11 |
lucasvo | highvoltage: I have looked at it and would like to say somethings about it :) | 09:12 |
highvoltage | lucasvo: although, we're getting a new one soon | 09:12 |
highvoltage | lucasvo: ok, fire away | 09:12 |
lucasvo | first of all, don't mix sharp edges and rounded ones | 09:12 |
lucasvo | (see login box and navigation box) | 09:13 |
highvoltage | yeah. that's still up for fixation | 09:13 |
highvoltage | i don't know why they didn't make the edges round by default | 09:13 |
lucasvo | 2. if you use rounded edges look that the edges never "touch" any borders | 09:13 |
lucasvo | make a margin for the boxes | 09:14 |
highvoltage | check. also on my list of things to fix :) | 09:14 |
highvoltage | originally, the boxes weren't against the edges of the page. | 09:14 |
highvoltage | but later it went there to give a bit more horizontal space | 09:15 |
lucasvo | the "tabs". I don't know what, but they still need some change | 09:15 |
highvoltage | and because we wanted to make the top banner full width | 09:15 |
highvoltage | the tabs at the top of a page? | 09:15 |
highvoltage | oh, those tabs | 09:15 |
lucasvo | I wouldn't use a different color in the navigatin box | 09:15 |
highvoltage | yes, i know what you mean. | 09:15 |
lucasvo | highvoltage: yup the navigation tab | 09:15 |
highvoltage | it's also because they're not anti-aliased nicely | 09:16 |
lucasvo | I know whats wrong | 09:16 |
highvoltage | the tab colours was one of the first things i changed, all the rest came after. it's no surprise that they don't fit :) | 09:16 |
highvoltage | they're also not shaded or antialiased. | 09:16 |
lucasvo | see on ubuntu.com: they have only a little difference from the contentpart-bgcolor | 09:16 |
lucasvo | the active one has zero | 09:16 |
lucasvo | and also, the boxes conflicht the tabs | 09:17 |
lucasvo | because then, you think the tabs also change the boxes, not only the content of the pages | 09:17 |
highvoltage | hmmm.. what do you mean by contentpart-bgcolor? | 09:18 |
lucasvo | its the white part of the page | 09:18 |
lucasvo | where the real content is in | 09:18 |
lucasvo | I would put the Navigationbox above the login | 09:19 |
lucasvo | anyway, is that login really that important? | 09:20 |
lucasvo | can't one just make a loginbox on the wikipage for e.g. | 09:20 |
lucasvo | the way it is on: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ | 09:20 |
highvoltage | just a moment... | 09:23 |
lucasvo | I quite like the way, the edubuntu logo is included into the header | 09:23 |
highvoltage | i'll get those tabs and borders fixed tomorrow | 09:28 |
lucasvo | don't hurry | 09:29 |
lucasvo | what do you think about the boxes, are they needed on both sides? | 09:29 |
highvoltage | well, we are planning to replace the current edubuntu website with that one on Thursday, so we need to get that done ASAP :) | 09:29 |
highvoltage | you know, i don't think they are | 09:30 |
highvoltage | i wonder how they'll all look on the right hand side | 09:30 |
lucasvo | yup | 09:33 |
lucasvo | maybe not using such intensive colors would make the design more calm | 09:33 |
highvoltage | hmmm... drupal doesn't give me my space back | 09:35 |
highvoltage | the wild colours is something we can't change much :/ | 09:35 |
lucasvo | why? | 09:35 |
highvoltage | although, with a bit of love we could make it work. | 09:35 |
highvoltage | the red and orange is edubuntu's official colours. | 09:35 |
highvoltage | and we agreed that we'd keep the 'funky' colours from the old site. the dapper version of edubuntu will also have lots of these colours in the theme | 09:36 |
highvoltage | so it's part of the brand identity | 09:36 |
lucasvo | well, you can still use them for smaller areas so they are not that dominant | 09:36 |
lucasvo | on the old design, the colors don't change so often | 09:37 |
lucasvo | maybe this would help as well | 09:37 |
lucasvo | highvoltage: I would also put the navigation box on the right side | 09:43 |
lucasvo | wow, that css is complicated | 09:45 |
lucasvo | highvoltage: try to use a grey background for the tab | 09:46 |
highvoltage | that css is way overcomplicated :) | 09:47 |
highvoltage | lucasvo: been a bit of a nightmare to edit | 09:47 |
highvoltage | perhaps i should just base off a simpler theme | 09:48 |
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highvoltage | lucasvo: i agree with everything you said so far about the edubuntu proto site. | 10:03 |
highvoltage | lucasvo: if you think of more suggestions, could you please e-mail it to me? | 10:03 |
highvoltage | goodnight, #edubuntu | 10:04 |
highvoltage | lucasvo, Bluekuja: goodnight | 10:04 |
Bluekuja | goodnight jon | 10:07 |
Bluekuja | aww already gone :( | 10:08 |
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pygi | spacey: around? | 11:00 |
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