| mdke | LaserJock_away, pong | 12:36 |
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| mdke | trappist, sorry, I don't see why removing xreflabels will have an unintended effect on cross references links | 12:41 |
| mdke | for example, the serverguide doesn't use them at all, and it happily cross references links | 12:41 |
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| highvoltage | mdke: how come? if you got a "Lost terminal" it probably means you weren't running under screen. | 12:46 |
| mdke | highvoltage, i was though :) | 12:46 |
| mdke | i had to go out and kill it | 12:47 |
| highvoltage | murderer! | 12:47 |
| mdke | it deserved it | 12:47 |
| highvoltage | probably did | 12:47 |
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| mdke | LaserJock_away, just had a quick look at the PG, from what I can see, the way you use linkends, there will be no problem simply removing the xreflabels and letting the links take their text from the relevant section titles | 01:00 |
| robotgeek | mdke: damn, i replied to you instead of to the list | 01:03 |
| mdke | robotgeek, np. By the way, this isn't super urgent | 01:03 |
| mdke | it can easily wait until next week at least | 01:03 |
| robotgeek | mdke: just came back from a run, i'll try to see if i can regex it :) | 01:04 |
| mdke | cool :) | 01:04 |
| mdke | ah good | 01:05 |
| LaserJock | mdke: you sure? | 01:05 |
| mdke | LaserJock, why not? | 01:05 |
| LaserJock | mdke: ok, so the beginning of http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/basic-scratch.html | 01:06 |
| mdke | take a look at the ubuntu desktop guide in yelp, common tasks -> video -> dvd's has quite a few | 01:06 |
| LaserJock | there is a link to the pbuilder section | 01:06 |
| mdke | oh hell | 01:06 |
| mdke | well, that has to go | 01:07 |
| mdke | further down that page, the link to "Common Mistakes" is how internal links should be done | 01:07 |
| mdke | (in my opinion) | 01:07 |
| LaserJock | mdke: and at http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/basic-chap.html | 01:08 |
| LaserJock | there is a link to the chroot section | 01:08 |
| mdke | yeah, I see the problem. Damn | 01:08 |
| LaserJock | mdke: so what I'm saying is that I agree with you | 01:09 |
| LaserJock | but it might take a few string changes for me to make the change | 01:09 |
| LaserJock | sorry about that | 01:09 |
| mdke | yes, I see. I think it's worth doing the changes | 01:09 |
| mdke | linking on words like that is not a good idea, I don't think, because it is not obvious its a cross-reference | 01:09 |
| mdke | however, let's think about this | 01:10 |
| mdke | LaserJock, both those examples are of words which don't get translated | 01:10 |
| mdke | so in theory, you could leave those xreflabels, and remove others | 01:10 |
| mdke | thoughts? | 01:10 |
| LaserJock | hmm, well I'd like to get it right, and I'd like to make sure the links are translated | 01:11 |
| mdke | well, no one is going to translate "chroot" or "pbuilder", right? so those xreflabels are not a problem, they work in all languages | 01:12 |
| mdke | how many string changes are we talking? | 01:12 |
| LaserJock | not many. in fact, if we leave chroot and pbuilder then it might be fine as is | 01:14 |
| LaserJock | I'd have to look | 01:14 |
| mdke | ideally, I'd like you to do the changes, but if there are a few big paragraphs that translations would have to redo, it might be worth leaving chroot/pbuilder or whatever else won't make a difference | 01:16 |
| mdke | see how you go, I'd say | 01:17 |
| LaserJock | ok, I'll go through and see what I can do, just greping for linkend looks like it might be only 1 or 2 changes. | 01:19 |
| mdke | thanks a lot dude | 01:19 |
| theCore | hi LaserJock | 01:29 |
| theCore | LaserJock: spliting basics.xml? | 01:32 |
| theCore | what is froud? | 01:34 |
| mdke | froud is the irc nickname of a guy who used to work in the docteam | 01:34 |
| theCore | mdke: oh, ok | 01:34 |
| mdke | why do you ask? | 01:35 |
| theCore | mdke: I thought it was the new devel version name | 01:35 |
| mdke | ?! | 01:35 |
| mdke | where did you hear that? | 01:35 |
| theCore | mdke: I saw a branch in the repository named froud | 01:35 |
| mdke | oh right, gotcha | 01:36 |
| theCore | https://docteam.ubuntu.com/repos/branches/froud/ | 01:36 |
| mdke | we should probably delete it | 01:36 |
| mdke | ok, I'm going to bed | 01:39 |
| mdke | later all | 01:39 |
| LaserJock | hi theCore | 01:39 |
| LaserJock | cya mdke | 01:39 |
| theCore | good bye mdke | 01:40 |
| theCore | LaserJock: so, are you spliting basics.xml? | 01:40 |
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| LaserJock | theCore: no | 01:42 |
| LaserJock | theCore: just trying to make things translatable | 01:42 |
| theCore | LaserJock: by the way, do you if there's any issues with pbuilder? | 01:43 |
| LaserJock | theCore: I think I cleaned it up | 01:44 |
| theCore | with the program itself, not the docs | 01:44 |
| LaserJock | oh, not that I know of | 01:47 |
| theCore | Hmm ... | 01:49 |
| theCore | I wonder why then mine isn't working | 01:49 |
| theCore | s/then// | 01:50 |
| LaserJock | sometimes the mirrors are not working for a bit | 01:51 |
| theCore | I able to fetch the package, but I get a wierd error at the end | 01:53 |
| LaserJock | which package is it dying on? | 01:56 |
| theCore | I don't remember | 01:56 |
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| trappist | mdke: that would only happen if the xreflabel was added because the linked section's title didn't fit the narrative flow where the link is, and that's the only reason I can think of to specify an xreflabel | 06:10 |
| LaserJock | right, so maybe xreflabel is just something we shouldn't use | 06:11 |
| trappist | maybe so | 06:18 |
| trappist | it's used in some 3rd party docs, like the fdl | 06:18 |
| trappist | or maybe it was the gpl I saw it in | 06:18 |
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| mdke | trappist, talking of the fdl, did you see that it now gets subsections in the document indexes? (http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/index.html) | 10:41 |
| rob | so, docwiki is a tad rough around the edges.. heck I had to fix some of their C up just so it would work | 10:42 |
| mdke | trappist, what do you think about removing the <section> tags so that doesn't happen? | 10:42 |
| mdke | heya rob | 10:44 |
| rob | hi mdke | 10:45 |
| mdke | happy easter everyone | 10:45 |
| rob | I've been investigating several web-based solutions to allow people to contribute just using a browser.. a few promising projects but so far all of them need quite a bit of work | 10:46 |
| rob | happy easter mdke | 10:46 |
| mdke | rob, that's unsurprising :) | 10:46 |
| rob | yeah :) | 10:46 |
| mdke | i mean, if there isn't even a good wysiwyg editor for docbook xml, there is unlikely to be a web based extension for one | 10:47 |
| rob | doing a lot of research before I roll my own | 10:47 |
| rob | there are several good conversion tools and I've picked up a lot of good ideas from several projects, but none have been suitable thus far for what we do | 10:47 |
| rob | http://doc-book.sourceforge.net/homepage/ | 10:48 |
| mdke | if you're interested in contributing code, may contributing the the moin xml generation thing would be an idea | 10:48 |
| mdke | may/maybe | 10:48 |
| rob | that one was the most promising, but a lot of dependencies, a few major security issues and very rough around the edges | 10:49 |
| rob | I'm having a look at the moin xml thing now :) | 10:49 |
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| rob | what version of moin is Ubuntu running on the wiki? | 10:51 |
| rob | hmm.. | 10:56 |
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| mdke | rob, SystemInfo tells you the version of stuff | 12:13 |
| rob | mdke, cool | 12:14 |
| jenda | rob - I have a person who wants a channel dropped - could I let them grab hold of you now? | 12:29 |
| rob | jenda, sure | 12:29 |
| jenda | You don't speak french, by any chance? | 12:29 |
| rob | no.. but I can probably manage | 12:30 |
| jenda | OK - I think he can manage english. It's teh #et channel. | 12:30 |
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| LaserJock | Hi everybody, Happy Easter! | 09:45 |
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