[12:00] <linuxgeekery> does rhythmbox support mp3s, well, right out of the box?
[12:00] <martyn_> mwe: iwho ?
[12:00] <Chris_C> ok, let me fiugre out the command to mount manually ... is there any Gnome/GUI way to manually mount?
[12:00] <kingspawn> linuxgeekery: nope
[12:00] <tonyyarusso> linuxgeekery: Not out of the box (can't legally), but it's easy:
[12:00] <tonyyarusso> !mp3
[12:00] <ubotu> mp3 is, like, totally, a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:00] <SaLoMoN> Winamp not Running
[12:00] <erUSUL> !tell linuxgeekery about mp3
[12:01] <linuxgeekery> thank you people :)
[12:01] <hijackedpen> how to mount windows drives????
[12:01] <jadaz87> hello i was wondering when i do this command: [code]  sudo mount extracted_fs mnt -o loop  [/code]                        the terminal just hangs
[12:01] <jadaz87> !windows
[12:01] <ubotu> jadaz87: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:01] <linuxgeekery> Chris_C: I forget... does gnome have a run feature? (I use xfce).
[12:01] <eobanb> !ntfs
[12:01] <ubotu> methinks ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[12:01] <hijackedpen> ya
[12:01] <hijackedpen> ntfs
[12:02] <micmac> Hi all!
[12:02] <dbernar1> TheMonoTone: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12344 . Back up your _current_ version of sources.list, make what is there your new sources.list, and then sudo aptitude update. Report any errors on the pastebin, please.
[12:02] <linuxgeekery> Chris_C: if it does, type 'gksudo mount -t auto /dev/sdwhatever'
[12:02] <hijackedpen> this is really an awesome lnx i have ever seen :)
[12:02] <hijackedpen> ubuntu rox:)
[12:02] <TheMonoTone> will do
[12:03] <eobanb> glad you like it
[12:03] <hijackedpen> thnx
[12:03] <micmac> Could one of you please do me a favour? I'd like to know the perms of your cd-rom/dvd-rom mount point while the drive is unmounted. Like 644...
[12:03] <Chris_C> linuxgeekery: gksudo is the same as sudo?  I've never used gksudo ... googling now ...
[12:03] <tonyyarusso> Chris_C: It's for running GUI apps as root.
[12:03] <linuxgeekery> Chris_C: gksudo is graphical sudo
[12:03] <mwe> micmac: perms of mount points have no effect on mounted file systems
[12:04] <mwe> micmac: only options to mount does
[12:04] <ally> helloevryone
[12:04] <Chris_C> linuxgeekery: but mount is CLI, isn't it?
[12:04] <ally> i think i may need some help installing...
[12:04] <micmac> mwe, :) My problem is somewhere else. I'd like to figure out while EAC in Wine with ide-cd works with Ubuntu but not Gentoo.
[12:04] <linuxgeekery> Chris_C: well, it works either way. gksudo, sudo - pick your preferred method :)
[12:05] <micmac> mwe, s/while/why
[12:05] <jadaz87> hello i was wondering when i do this command: [code]  sudo mount extracted_fs mnt -o loop [/code]  the terminal just hangs
[12:05] <patrick52222> !nvidia
[12:05] <ubotu> I guess nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[12:05] <mwe> micmac: don't know. is it the same wine version?
[12:05] <Chris_C> OK, I see, gksudo just throws up a GUI password prompt .. I'll just use sudo :)
[12:05] <TheMonoTone> same error pretty much
[12:06] <linuxgeekery> Chris_C: :D
[12:06] <TheMonoTone> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12345
[12:06] <danl> msg nickserv identify 221jlm
[12:06] <micmac> mwe, I have 0.9.12 right know. What are your perms?
[12:06] <danl> crap
[12:06] <warrior> jadaz87, Hopefully you aren't using [code]  [/code] 's in the terminal?
[12:06] <martyn_> how do i install mp3 codecs
[12:06] <linuxgeekery> !mp3
[12:06] <ubotu> rumour has it, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:06] <SaLoMoN> Winamp not Running
[12:06] <TheMonoTone> dbernar1: this is aggravating :-/
[12:06] <mwe> micmac: they are not important
[12:06] <ally> i cant get the gui working
[12:06] <Jowi> danl: you might want to change that password now :)
[12:06] <jadaz87> warrior nope it whould have given me a syntax error :-P :-)
[12:06] <Fenrir-> any finnish ppl here to help me with ubuntu ?
[12:06] <mwe> micmac: 644. but it has no effect when you mount the drive
[12:06] <linuxgeekery> !ati
[12:06] <ubotu> I heard ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[12:06] <hijackedpen> frm where i can download lots of ubuntu packages???
[12:07] <warrior> jadaz87, Just making sure. ;)  I don't recongize the command, so I can't help you there. =\
[12:07] <Chris_C> it didn't like "auto"
[12:07] <jadaz87> warrior of ok
[12:07] <Chris_C> "mount: you must specify the filesystem type"
[12:07] <linuxgeekery> brb
[12:07] <dbernar1> TheMonoTone: I just said update. Does The update give you errors?
[12:07] <linuxgeekery> exiting out of the cli :)
[12:07] <ally> ok maybe later
[12:07] <jadaz87> !tell hijackedpen about synaptic
[12:07] <hijackedpen> frm where i can download lots of ubuntu packages???
[12:07] <danl> id id :-D
[12:07] <Chris_C> what's the most common filesystem for USB flash drives?
[12:07] <hijackedpen> ok
[12:07] <Chris_C> crap
[12:07] <mwe> Chris_C: vfat usually I think
[12:07] <Chris_C> mwe: thanks
[12:07] <danl> that what i get for forgetting the /
[12:08] <danl> lol
[12:08] <micmac> mwe, thanks. Here it's 700. Are you sure about the 6? It's a dir, I'm just wondering.
[12:08] <danl> is there any way to save a snapshot of all currently installed packages?
[12:08] <mwe> micmac: trust me it doesn't matter if it's 000 or 777
[12:08] <duelboot> danl, should set it up to do it before you're in the channel then it won't matter
[12:08] <micmac> mwe, :) ok
[12:08] <TheMonoTone> no
[12:08] <yo> how do i update ubuntu from hoary to breezy?
[12:08] <tonyyarusso> danl: Yes, let me get you a URL about that.
[12:09] <tristanmike> !tell yo about upgrade
[12:09] <yo> thanks guys :)
[12:09] <yo> appreciate it
[12:09] <danl> i know duelboot... but im usually on gamesurge, not freenode :-D
[12:10] <jadaz87> hey guys i think my sudo command is broken
[12:10] <duelboot> jadaz87, ?
[12:10] <jadaz87> everything i do that has sudo in it only hangs in the terminal
[12:10] <TheMonoTone> dbernar1: no errors from update
[12:10] <duelboot> new install or not?
[12:10] <jadaz87> if i do it without sudo it tells me i do not have permission :-)
[12:10] <dbernar1> TheMonoTone: well, 2 errors less:)
[12:10] <mwe> jadaz87: no error?
[12:10] <jadaz87> duelboot not new
[12:10] <Klick_> Any chance anyone can help me get my stylus working, it seems to be located at /dev/ttys0, and i can load the module with no errors, just doesnt seem to work in X
[12:10] <Jowi> jadaz87: even "sudo fdisk -l"?
[12:10] <mwe> jadaz87: it just hangs?
[12:10] <tonyyarusso> danl: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2003/09/msg00152.html
[12:11] <jadaz87> yep it hangs
[12:11] <TheMonoTone> dbernar1: true
[12:11] <duelboot> jadaz87, check your /etc/sudoers file and ensure your info is there
[12:11] <arrick> mornign duelboot
[12:11] <duelboot> evening arrick
[12:11] <TheMonoTone> I wonder why there's still 2 libs mia though
[12:11] <mwe> it shouldn't hang if not
[12:11] <mwe> just give permission error
[12:11] <jadaz87> it hangs
[12:11] <duelboot> mwe, true, true
[12:11] <vicky_> yes
[12:12] <jadaz87> and the /etc/sudoers file is there
[12:12] <ohzie> How does one install a debian package? :X
[12:12] <danl> thanks tonyyarusso
[12:12] <vicky_> thank
[12:12] <xbox_sky> ohzie sudo dpkg -i  xxxx.deb
[12:12] <vicky_> hox are you ?
[12:12] <jerware> how do i pm some one?
[12:12] <mwe> jadaz87: Im suspecting host lookup errors or something
[12:12] <jerware> with x chat
[12:12] <erUSUL> ohzie: you should not use apt if possible
[12:12] <jadaz87> ohzie: sudo dpkg -i <filename>.deb
[12:12] <mwe> jadaz87: what's the output of 'hostname' ?
[12:12] <xbox_sky> jerware /query "nick"
[12:12] <ohzie> Thank you
[12:13] <dbernar1> TheMonoTone: But, that cinelerra is on crack. libavc1394-0: (control IEEE 1394 audio/video devices), section libs, is extra. Version: 0.5.1-1 (dapper),
[12:13] <jadaz87> mwe hostname is correct
[12:13] <jerware> xbox_sky: will that open a seperate channel window?
[12:13] <ohzie> erUSUL: Cedega == no apt ;x
[12:13] <dbernar1> Same in sid, so that .5.2 does not even exist.
[12:13] <TheMonoTone> dbernar1: thats what I'm saying
[12:13] <jadaz87> my laptop was forced shutdown because ubuntu whould not shutdown or hibernation
[12:13] <xbox_sky> jerware I think so (i'm on konversation
[12:13] <TheMonoTone> I think someone packaged it wrong
[12:13] <jerware> it worked. thanx xbox_sky
[12:13] <xbox_sky> np
[12:13] <vicky_> quel est la diffrence entre un chien et une blonde ?
[12:14] <redguy> !fr
[12:14] <tonyyarusso> erUSUL: Punctuation is good.  "you should not use apt if possible"?
[12:14] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:14] <mwe> jadaz87: the hosts file as well?
[12:14] <captmellow> hello all. i'm trying to do "mplayer -playlist list.txt -ao pcm:file=temp.wav"
[12:14] <captmellow> . is there a way to make it write different wavs for each song in the playlist?
[12:14] <celerex> anyone use supervicse? The daemon tools service
[12:14] <duelboot> tonyyarusso, thanks for that link...I'll use it as well!
[12:14] <jadaz87> mwe hosts file?
[12:14] <Stc> hi, for download dapper repositories .iso ?
[12:14] <tonyyarusso> duelboot: You're very welcome!  I thought it was pretty slick.
[12:14] <mwe> jadaz87: /etc/hosts
[12:14] <vicky_> j
[12:14] <vicky_> 
[12:14] <vicky_> 
[12:14] <vicky_> 
[12:14] <vicky_> 
[12:14] <vicky_> 
[12:14] <vicky_> 
[12:14] <vicky_> 
[12:14] <Stc> i have find this http://cargol.net/~ramon/ubuntu-dvd-en :\ but is for breezy ;\
[12:14] <vicky_> 
[12:14] <jadaz87> stop please
[12:15] <vicky_> 
[12:15] <Stc> for daper ?
[12:15] <arrick> !enter
[12:15] <mwe> beat it
[12:15] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[12:15] <vicky_> 
[12:15] <vicky_> 
[12:15] <tonyyarusso> vicky_: Knock it off please.
[12:15] <redguy> !ops
[12:15] <mwe> !ops
[12:15] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, fabbione, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee
[12:15] <vicky_> 
[12:15] <jadaz87> !oips
[12:15] <duelboot> vicky_, is going crazy
[12:15] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, jadaz87
[12:15] <vicky_> 
[12:15] <eobanb> vicky_, if you don't have anything  usefl to say, please leave.
[12:15] <vicky_> 
[12:15] <jadaz87> !ops
[12:15] <vicky_> 
[12:15] <vicky_> 
[12:15] <vicky_> 
[12:15] <tonyyarusso> jadaz87: oips?  ;)
[12:15] <duelboot> boot, boot, boot, boot
[12:15] <Rippawallet> I need help
[12:15] <captmellow> ty
[12:15] <mwe> thanks
[12:15] <eobanb> democracy in action.
[12:15] <jadaz87> tonyyarusso yeah i know
[12:15] <jadaz87> lol
[12:15] <Stc> HI , i have find this http://cargol.net/~ramon/ubuntu-dvd-en :\ but is for breezy ;\ for dapper ?
[12:15] <Rippawallet> Can someone help me?
[12:15] <captmellow> what's a good channel for mplayer questions?
[12:15] <celerex> I'm using supervise to run tinydns, now wheneve ri start supervise I get the following: supervise: relocation error: supervise: symbol errno, version GLIBC_2.0 not defined in file libc.so.6 with link time reference
[12:16] <Rippawallet> Please?
[12:16] <DBO> Rippawallet, what is your problem?
[12:16] <redguy> !tell Rippawallet about ask
[12:16] <nalioth> captmellow: you can try here or in #mplayerhq
[12:16] <Rippawallet> About installing ubuntu
[12:16] <Rippawallet> I have the live CD
[12:16] <Coweater> is there any way to blacklist a module from the boot: prompt?
[12:16] <jadaz87> mwe the hosts file is ther
[12:16] <Rippawallet> I restarted
[12:16] <Rippawallet> Partitioned
[12:16] <mwe> jadaz87: is it correct?
[12:16] <celerex> this has happened since i dist upgraded form hoary to 5.Breezy
[12:16] <Rippawallet> The screen went blue and did nothing
[12:16] <DBO> !enter
[12:16] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[12:16] <jadaz87> mwe it looks like it
[12:16] <arrick> DBO, whadup?
[12:17] <DBO> hi arrick
[12:17] <mwe> jadaz87: are you sure?
[12:17] <Rippawallet> I switched off, and now when I try to partition, the screen goes red and says not enough memory
[12:17] <jadaz87> mwe yeah
[12:17] <mwe> arrick: your web page looks good
[12:17] <eobanb> Rippawallet, how much memory do you have?
[12:17] <jadaz87> mwe my laptop was forced to shutdown and now this happened
[12:17] <Rippawallet> 140GB
[12:17] <Rippawallet> Now 128GB though
[12:17] <mwe> arrick: the image on contact looks somewhat garbled thouh
[12:17] <DBO> Rippawallet, we mean RAM
[12:17] <danl> my previous question should be an idea taken into review for synaptic...
[12:17] <jadaz87> mwe it was working yesterday lol
[12:17] <eobanb> Rippawallet, that is not memory.  that is ahrd drive space.
[12:17] <Rippawallet> Oh
[12:17] <Rippawallet> Lol
[12:17] <mwe> jadaz87: odd
[12:17] <Rippawallet> :P
[12:17] <dbernar1> TheMonoTone: no ideas. Make sure you remove the cinelerra related lines from sources.list.
[12:17] <Rippawallet> Sorry
[12:18] <arrick> mwe, which one the map, or the business card?
[12:18] <Rippawallet> I am really tired
[12:18] <Rippawallet> 25
[12:18] <Rippawallet> 256
[12:18] <redguy> !tell Rippawallet about enter
[12:18] <Klick_> Can anyone help me get my wacom stylus to work, it seems to have stoped after this mornings updates
[12:18] <mwe> arrick: the business card
[12:18] <qw12> Anybody speaks english?
[12:18] <qw12> Please call me
[12:18] <arrick> ok, will work on it thanks mwe
[12:18] <eobanb> qw12: ...
[12:18] <hijackedpen> ya i speak
[12:18] <enr1x|MarcosBOX> sorry but i want to know what package is startx in
[12:18] <Rippawallet> So any help?
[12:19] <redguy> qw12: I don't
[12:19] <enr1x|MarcosBOX> i cannot find it...
[12:19] <redguy> enr1x|MarcosBOX: tried apt-file?
[12:19] <Seveas> enr1x|MarcosBOX, package xinit
[12:19] <Rippawallet> Help a friend out :D
[12:19] <enr1x|MarcosBOX> thanks
[12:19] <enr1x|MarcosBOX> one sec...
[12:20] <hijackedpen> is it necessary to burn ubuntu cd with a speed of 1x ????
[12:20] <hijackedpen> is it necessary to burn ubuntu cd with a speed of 1x ????
[12:20] <redguy> highvoltage: no
[12:20] <redguy> highvoltage: no
[12:20] <eobanb> redguy, :)
[12:20] <Rippawallet> DBO, eobanb
[12:20] <highvoltage> redguy: don't be so pesimistic
[12:20] <enr1x|MarcosBOX> redguy: never heard of that package. i use arch
[12:20] <tonyyarusso> redguy: Did it twice and still couln't tab complete right, eh?
[12:20] <obscurite> hijackedpen - of course not
[12:20] <redguy> darn
[12:20] <Stormx2> My sound has completely gone now in ubuntu. I was using my media player earlier and BAM! No sound. Rebooting doesn't help
[12:20] <obscurite> hijackedpen - burn your CD at whatever speed your system can handle.
[12:21] <Rippawallet> Ffs
[12:21] <Rippawallet> Please
[12:21] <tonyyarusso> hijackedpen: I usually do 'em around 4x myself.  Slower is sometimes good for those, but 1x shouldn't be necessary.
[12:21] <obscurite> Stormx2 - sometimes sound cuts out on my lappy too. Usually a reboot fixes it. It seems applications are fighting over control of the sound. Did you just install anything?
[12:21] <redguy> tonyyarusso, highvoltage well, the lenght of the nicks is almost the same, so i thought that i got it right
[12:21] <hijackedpen> but the forum says if it will be burnt on 1x then breezy will be installed :-s[confused seriously] 
[12:21] <hijackedpen> but the forum says if it will be burnt on 1x then breezy will be installed :-s[confused seriously] 
[12:21] <dbernar1> Stormx2: use amixer, and paste output to pastebin
[12:21] <jadaz87> does anyone know how i can set ubuntu to check the filesystem next time i retstart i think there is a problem
[12:21] <Rippawallet> I dont mean to be anooying, but I really need help before I go to bed =(
[12:22] <mwe> hijackedpen: don't repeat
[12:22] <obscurite> hijackedpen - everything you type is coming out twice. weird.
[12:22] <redguy> Rippawallet: at which point does this message appear?
[12:22] <Stormx2> obscurite: No, well, a new version of the media player, but I doubt that did it.
[12:22] <jetscreamer> shutdown -Fr now jadaz87 , or change the now
[12:22] <Stormx2> dbernar1: k hold on
[12:22] <Rippawallet> Can I pm you
[12:22] <Rippawallet> To much speaking
[12:22] <mwe> hijackedpen: you'll get kicked
[12:22] <hijackedpen> keyboard prob sorry:(
[12:22] <Seveas> Rippawallet, a) you don't give nearly enough info 2) please don't use too much <enter> 3) get some sleep and try again tomorrow, things work better in the morning...
[12:22] <jetscreamer> jadaz87: also, touch /forcefsck
[12:22] <jadaz87> jetscreamer what does that second command do?
[12:22] <jetscreamer> same
[12:22] <erUSUL> jadaz87: is better to run a livecd and run the check from there IMHO
[12:23] <jetscreamer> creates a file named... guess.
[12:23] <redguy> Rippawallet: if we talk in here there someone else might help you as well
[12:23] <Rippawallet> I see
[12:23] <jadaz87> oh ok
[12:23] <Rippawallet> well
[12:23] <Stormx2> dbernar1: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12348
[12:23] <jadaz87> well i will be back
[12:23] <arrick> well, I'm off to church, have fun in here.
[12:23] <jetscreamer> jadaz87: you want it in /
[12:23] <micmac> mwe, it was the moint point perms :) It actually was. With 700 EAC would just hang/crash. With 777 (access all areas ;)) it starts up like a charm. Heh.
[12:23] <Rippawallet> The message came up after I tried to install it again after the screen went blue and stopped one I had partitioned
[12:23] <jetscreamer> jadaz87: shutdown -Fr now touches said file and reboots
[12:23] <jetscreamer> ah too late
[12:23] <Stormx2> dbernar1: ROFL wait... PCM was muted. No idea why I didn't do that. Problem solved
[12:23] <mwe> micmac: that's really odd!
[12:23] <dbernar1> Stormx2: yes.
[12:23] <obscurite> Stormx2 - nice job
[12:24] <Rippawallet> Uhm so anyone?
[12:24] <redguy> Rippawallet: "after the screen went blue and stopped one I had partitioned" <- please say it again. In english please...
[12:24] <mwe> micmac: I guess it's some odd wine issue. for normal mount it makes no difference
[12:24] <micmac> mwe, yes, but I'm really glad it's working now.
[12:24] <mwe> micmac: yeah
[12:24] <micmac> mwe, yes
[12:25] <coz> evening all
[12:25] <Stormx2> evening coz
[12:25] <coz> has anyone here tryed "wayv" system mouse gestures
[12:25] <Stormx2> nope :P should I?
[12:25] <coz> Stormx2, hey guy
[12:25] <micmac> mwe, Ubuntu defaults to other perms, that's why it did work for all Ubuntu folks. Gentoo sets 700 and it didn't :) Pick your distro ;)
[12:26] <mwe> micmac: or fix wine
[12:26] <coz> Stormx2, wekk if you want system wide mouse gestures but i cannot get it to work yet
[12:26] <Rippawallet> I put in the live CD, rebooted, ubuntu screen came up, I did all the language stuff, partitioned, and the screen went blue so I turned off my PC, turned it on, tried to install again, and when it got to the partition bit the screen went red and say something like not enough memory
[12:26] <Stormx2> coz: perhaps you should do a wiki and forum search?
[12:26] <mwe> micmac: does it work if you set it to 755?
[12:27] <coz> Stormx2, I have tried many sources but still no real solutions just testing this but it would be nice I am used to sensiva on a windows machine
[12:27] <mwe> micmac: not just anyone should have permission to delete that dir
[12:27] <Rippawallet> redguy?
[12:27] <redguy> Rippawallet: I get it now
[12:27] <Rippawallet> :)
[12:28] <patrick52222> !nvidia
[12:28] <ubotu> I guess nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[12:28] <micmac> mwe, no other person than root can delete the mount point (it's in a dir owned by root).
[12:28] <mwe> micmac: if it's 777 they can
[12:28] <mtairhead> Is there anyone here who could help me with Ubuntu and my soundcard? I get an error when I open volume control.
[12:28] <Rippawallet> What should I do
[12:28] <micmac> mwe, rm: Entfernen von Verzeichnis ,,/mnt/dvd" nicht mglich: Keine Berechtigung
[12:28] <micmac> mwe, no dice :)
[12:29] <erUSUL> mtairhead: and... what says the error?
[12:29] <malv> does gmailfs work?
[12:29] <duelboot> malv, yes, I got it to work
[12:29] <micmac> mwe, 755 sounds a lot more charming. I'll use it.
[12:29] <mtairhead> thks erUSUL, "NO volume control elements and/or devices found"
[12:29] <micmac> mwe, thanks for your kind help!
[12:29] <redguy> Rippawallet: Well, I can't really think of anything right now. If you could tell us what did the error message say exactly, you might get better help
[12:29] <erUSUL> mtairhead: try alsamixer in a console
[12:29] <Fenrir-> any fin guys here ?
[12:30] <duelboot> malv, there's even a .deb pkg for it...
[12:30] <redguy> !fi
[12:30] <ubotu> Suomenkielinen keskustelu Ubuntusta kanavalla #ubuntu-fi
[12:30] <malv> duelboot, where can I get instructions on how to use it
[12:30] <mwe> micmac: oh yeah that's because /media has the right perms
[12:30] <mtairhead> erUSUL: ;) Well... That's why I'm here... I have little idea what that means
[12:30] <malv> I tried it but it says login failed
[12:30] <mwe> micmac: don't worry. it was a brain fart
[12:30] <Rippawallet> I dont remember for sure
[12:30] <mtairhead> I got that advice when I googled the error
[12:30] <Rippawallet> SOmething like not enough memory for partition. DO it manually
[12:30] <obscurite> is amixer just a textier version of alsamixer?
[12:30] <duelboot> malv, I followed the instructions from the gmailfs page (and one other which I can't remember -- maybe in the forums...search for gmailfs)...
[12:30] <micmac> mwe, I know ;)
[12:31] <erUSUL> mtairhead: open Aplications>accesories>Terminal
[12:31] <giles> Hi I am getting  "/dev/ida/c0d0p1 does not exist. Dropping to a shell!"
[12:31] <simonpca> bonjour a tous! | hi everybody!
[12:31] <wali> .
[12:31] <mtairhead> ah. ok
[12:31] <erUSUL> mtairhead: type alsamixer and hit enter
[12:31] <mtairhead> This is farther than I've been... one min..
[12:31] <haGGis> What are the default themes for ubuntu if i was to download them from gnome-look
[12:31] <duelboot> malv, start here:  http://richard.jones.name/google-hacks/gmail-filesystem/gmail-filesystem.html  then google gmailfs...that's what I did
[12:32] <patrick52222> wats the command to see the gear thing to test fps
[12:32] <mtairhead> "alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory andrew@ANDREW:~$ [] "
[12:32] <slavik> would it be ok to ask for a package for anjuta 2.0.1 in the ubuntu backports?
[12:32] <duelboot> malv, had some funky tweaks to make, but don't recall them at the moment
[12:32] <Rippawallet> redguy?
[12:32] <haGGis> What are the default themes for ubuntu if i was to download them from gnome-look
[12:32] <eugman> How do I make it so the custom command for a certain file type will open a terminal window and then send it to the program?
[12:32] <duelboot> human, haGGis
[12:33] <redguy> Rippawallet: do you have any other OS installed? Windows perhaps?
[12:33] <erUSUL> mtairhead: run  ls /dev/snd/*
[12:33] <Rippawallet> Windows
[12:33] <dbernar1> !themes
[12:33] <Rippawallet> I am going to dual boot
[12:33] <giles> Hi I am getting  "/dev/ida/c0d0p1 does not exist. Dropping to a shell!" on dapper
[12:33] <haGGis> duelboot: i mean are they GTK1.x GTK.2x
[12:33] <mtairhead> erUSUL, am I putting that into the terminal?
[12:34] <duelboot> haGGis, hmmm, don't know off hand
[12:34] <mtairhead> I get a "bash: run: command not found"
[12:34] <redguy> Rippawallet: well it seems that you have to do manual partitioning
[12:34] <Rippawallet> How
[12:34] <redguy> Rippawallet: through the installer I suppose
[12:34] <erUSUL> yes put 'ls /dev/snd/*' (without the quotes of course)
[12:34] <Rdde> Hey, how can i make my samba server only comunicate trew my gbit network card? 192.168.0.1 ? is there some interface option?
[12:34] <haGGis> any 1 know what thems work with ubuntu 5.10 gtk 1.0 or gtk 2.0
[12:34] <Jowi> mtairhead: that is quite possible. there is no "run" command
[12:34] <malv_> yea, I get this: raise GmailLoginFailure
[12:34] <duelboot> haGGis, check what you have installed... I have GTK.2x
[12:34] <malv_> libgmail.GmailLoginFailure
[12:34] <spoon> my usb memory stick will not automount. It is /dev/sdb1 when I plug it in, but if i pull it out and plug it back in it becomes /dev/sdc1. is there a something I can put in the fstab to automaticaly mount this each time its pluged in?
[12:35] <haGGis> duelboot: how do i do that
[12:35] <Fenrir-> where i can find Kernel source tree in ubuntu ?
[12:35] <duelboot> malv_, had the same problem...look in the forums...think I found the answer there
[12:35] <mtairhead> ah! Ok.. "/dev/snd/controlC1 /dev/snd/midiC1DO /dev/snd/timer
[12:35] <duelboot> haGGis, I'll give you the gui way... run synaptic and search for gtk and see which pkg you have installed
[12:35] <eugman> Hey does anyone know how to precede a command so it'll do it in a new terminal window if possible?
[12:36] <obscurite> Rdde - i'm no samba expert, but what about the interfaces line of smb.conf?
[12:36] <duelboot> malv_, would tell you the answer, but I don't remember it sorry
[12:36] <duelboot> malv_, and you PM?
[12:36] <celerex> uh, what's teh TCPSERVER binary replacement for ubuntu breezy?
[12:37] <haGGis> duelboot: theres loads
[12:38] <bicky> any1 has experience with linux and WoW ?
[12:38] <duelboot> go to the ones that start with gtk
[12:38] <redguy> Rippawallet: try reading https://wiki.ubuntu.com/forum/installation/Partitioning
[12:38] <redguy> Rippawallet: maybe this will help you
[12:38] <duelboot> haGGis, see ^^^
[12:38] <eugman> Bicky. I think you'd need cedega to play it sucesfully which cost money but I could be wrong.
[12:38] <duelboot> malv_, check pm
[12:38] <viriiguy> Is anyone here running Ubuntu on a emachines m6805?
[12:38] <darx> hi guys
[12:38] <Rippawallet> Thanks redguy
[12:38] <erUSUL> mtairhead: what is the model of your soundcard? i'm afraid that it is not being recogniced
[12:38] <darx> i've a problem with mplayer plugin
[12:38] <redguy> Rippawallet: and this time, give some time to the installer. It Shouldn't hang up on you
[12:38] <darx> and real streams in firefox
[12:38] <haGGis> duelboot: kool found them thx
[12:38] <darx> the plugin spawns multiple windows
[12:38] <duelboot> darx, what exactly is the problem
[12:38] <duelboot> haGGis, yw
[12:38] <darx> the plugin spawns multiple windows
[12:38] <redguy> Rippawallet: take that hand off the reset switch or youll break your installation again
[12:38] <DBO> hmmm, me thinks my xserver is leaking memory like its going out of style
[12:38] <duelboot> darx, sorry don't know for that
[12:38] <DBO> there is no reason for it to be eating 420MB of RSS memory...
[12:38] <mtairhead> I thought as much.... It's built into the motherboard.. emachines trash... Lemmie check the user's manual
[12:38] <darx> okies
[12:38] <Tomcat_> bicky: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?appId=1922
[12:39] <finett> hey
[12:39] <finett> which version of /usr/bin/host is ubuntu using? bind9-host or just "host"?
[12:39] <Rippawallet> Ok
[12:39] <Rippawallet> I am going to reboot
[12:39] <duelboot> malv_, any luck?
[12:40] <EvilDin> hay how to set upload bandwidth limit, i need to set it somehow, because my ubuntu takes all my upload
[12:40] <Rippawallet> Tomottow
[12:40] <finett> I tried both of them on a plain debian and I cannot get MX records showing up :X
[12:40] <malv_> found the forum page
[12:40] <malv_> i'll figure it out
[12:40] <dbernar1> Rippawallet: why?
[12:40] <Rippawallet> Its 23:40pm and I'm tired
[12:40] <Rippawallet> And young
[12:40] <dbernar1> Rippawallet: why reboot.
[12:40] <redguy> finett: hmm try dig
[12:40] <dbernar1> Rippawallet: see ya.
[12:40] <Rippawallet> I am
[12:40] <Rippawallet> :P
[12:41] <Rippawallet> Too young to be up this late
[12:41] <Rippawallet> >.>
[12:41] <duelboot> too young?
[12:41] <dbernar1> Like 5?
[12:41] <Rippawallet> Mebbe
[12:41] <Rippawallet> No
[12:41] <ViriiGuy> anyone in here using a broadcom 4306?
[12:41] <slavik> after checkinstall creates the deb file, where does it keep it?
[12:42] <redguy> slavik: in ../ I suppose
[12:42] <slavik> k
[12:42] <duelboot> slavik, don't know exactly, but you it'll show up in synaptic package manager
[12:42] <redguy> slavik: or in ./
[12:42] <Fenrir-> is here any finnish ppl ?
[12:42] <slavik> !fi
[12:42] <bjorn_> I can't connect to a peer in BitTorrent using Linux, with Windows I can, what is wrong?
[12:42] <ubotu> Suomenkielinen keskustelu Ubuntusta kanavalla #ubuntu-fi
[12:42] <duelboot> jmoncayo, everything working?
[12:42] <mwe> slavik: it's left in the install dir
[12:42] <void^> bjorn_: what program are you using?
[12:42] <slavik> mwe: ty
[12:42] <redguy> Fenrir-: nobody on #ubuntu-fi ?
[12:43] <bjorn_> void^: Azureus
[12:43] <void^> bjorn_: and what java are you using?
[12:43] <slavik> I am running the configure script with --prefix=/opt
[12:43] <dbernar1> Finnish people are everywhere.
[12:43] <errpast-hc2> My hard disk seems to get accessed about 3 or 4 times a minute
[12:43] <ViriiGuy> make sure your port is set up right in Azureus
[12:43] <bjorn_> void^: I don't know, how can I check?
[12:43] <ViriiGuy> many private torrent groups require a certain port
[12:43] <errpast-hc2> Is there a way for me to tell what is accessing it?
[12:43] <void^> bjorn_: `java -version`
[12:43] <errpast-hc2> Breezy 5.1, on Dell Latitude
[12:43] <bjorn_> void^: 1.4.2
[12:44] <jmoncayo> duelboot, hey buddy everything's fine
[12:44] <duelboot> jmoncayo, good
[12:44] <void^> bjorn_: does it say gnu libgcj java?
[12:44] <mtairhead> erUSUL - "AC '97 Audio" is all emachines can give me
[12:44] <DBO> has anyone ever experienced xorg opening /dev/nvidia0 to 200 or so different areas in memory?
[12:44] <bjorn_> void^: It says this: gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.0.2 20050808 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.0.1-4ubuntu9)
[12:44] <obscurite> errpast-hc2 - if it involves open file handlers you can use 'lsof'
[12:44] <void^> bjorn_: okay, this java is known not to work with azureus
[12:45] <erUSUL> mtairhead: run lspci
[12:45] <slavik> hmm, I need package named "gnome-build-1.0" but it's not in any of the repo
[12:45] <jmoncayo> duelboot, now fixing a script somebody gave me for battery status
[12:45] <void^> !java
[12:45] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[12:45] <void^> bjorn_: follow this guide to install sun java
[12:45] <bjorn_> void^: Ok I will, thanks
[12:45] <duelboot> jmoncayo, good luck
[12:46] <mtairhead> erp. Do you want me to copy&paste all of that? ;)
[12:46] <mtairhead> ah, wait... "0000:00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 01)
[12:46] <mtairhead> "
[12:46] <erUSUL> mtairhead: use pastebin
[12:46] <erUSUL> !pastebin
[12:46] <ubotu> well, pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[12:46] <jmoncayo> duelboot, ok thanks a lot
[12:47] <jmoncayo> duelboot, hey i have a question
[12:48] <obscurite> Anyone using kompose in gnome?
[12:48] <mtairhead> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12351
[12:50] <eugman> Hey does anyone know how to make a command open up a terminal window for the program?
[12:50] <KBFX-RELEASED> !smtp
[12:50] <ubotu> KBFX-RELEASED: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:50] <clever> !hotmail
[12:50] <ubotu> methinks hotmail is if you must use this microsoft product, consider hotway: hotwayd/hotsmtpd are POP3/SMTP-HTTPMail gateway daemons, also works for lycos spray and msn
[12:50] <intelikey> eugman gnome-terminal command
[12:51] <clever> only result for smtp:S
[12:51] <amphi> eugman: run the term with an arg for the program to run, eg. xterm -e foo
[12:51] <bjorn_> void^: I downloaded the JRE 5.0 update 6 from Sun Java, but now I've got a bin file and I cannot open it, what to do?
[12:51] <eugman> ok I'll try that
[12:51] <bjorn_> void^: Oh sorry, I see already
[12:51] <ITSa341> I use thunderbird for hotmail it works well also
[12:51] <kicker> I have a problem when the browser displays some pages
[12:51] <kicker> any broser
[12:51] <amphi> hotmail? ugh
[12:52] <kicker> *any browser
[12:52] <eugman> Sweet it worked. Anopther day saved by the folks at ubuntu.
[12:52] <amphi> kicker: even lynx or w3m?
[12:52] <amphi> eugman: of course it worked ;)
[12:52] <ITSa341> amphi  I had an MSN screenname within three weeks of it's release, back when pop was free for it
[12:52] <haGGis> where do i install or find icons themes
[12:52] <tristanmike> !themes
[12:52] <kicker> no, I've tried firefox,opera and konqueror
[12:53] <intelikey> kicker flash related maybe ?
[12:53] <tristanmike> !tell haGGis about themes
[12:53] <chirag> i have a problem where my xmms just randomly shuts off while im going through the playlist
[12:53] <amphi> ITSa341: msn?
[12:53] <kicker> intelikey, I think maybe is that
[12:53] <chirag> maybe its because my playlist is really large and it cant handle it?
[12:53] <jadaz87> hello how do i delete a whole folder in terminal even if it has something in it?
[12:53] <ITSa341> msn, hotmail  same thing
[12:53] <chirag> the music is running off of my windows partition
[12:53] <amphi> jadaz87: rm -r
[12:53] <intelikey> kicker yeah flash is evil.
[12:53] <eugman> Amphi, well yes I suppose it's not like encrypting your harddrive or getting wifi to work properly but I'm still rather happy.
[12:54] <obscurite> Is it possible that lack of network access could cause a 5.10 server install to fail where it succeeded WITH network access?
[12:54] <intelikey> !flash
[12:54] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:55] <amphi> eugman: you have wifi probs? I've only done encrypted loopback 'partitions', which is pretty simple
[12:55] <ITSa341> How hard is it to upgrade xorg server and install xgl and related dependencies?
[12:55] <eugman> No, no just examples of something a little more complicated.
[12:55] <jadaz87> ITSa341 are you using dapper?
[12:55] <obscurite> The installer fails and tells me to look at /target/var/log/debootstrap.log but of course there's no log file there
[12:55] <ITSa341> 5.1
[12:55] <ITSa341> 5.10
[12:55] <jadaz87> ITSa341 xgl only works on dapper
[12:55] <slavik> !xgl
[12:55] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[12:56] <chirag> i have a problem where my xmms just randomly shuts off while im going through the playlist
[12:56] <ViriiGuy> I have wifi probs :D stoopid wifi.
[12:56] <chirag> the music is running off of my windows partition
[12:56] <amphi> ViriiGuy: stupid wifi, huh? ;) what card?
[12:56] <jadaz87> ViriiGuy what kind of problems?
[12:56] <erUSUL> mtairhead: run 'lsmod | grep intel8x0'
[12:56] <ViriiGuy> the dreaded 4306
[12:56] <ViriiGuy> broadcom
[12:56] <ViriiGuy> https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/37765
[12:57] <ViriiGuy> That is my bug report
[12:57] <amphi> ViriiGuy: is this a laptop?
[12:57] <dbernar1> Did you install the cafuego package? ViriiGuy
[12:57] <ViriiGuy> nothing has worked yet
[12:57] <dbernar1> !+bcm43xx
[12:57] <ubotu> To use your broadcom or airport extreme card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx for info and firmware.
[12:57] <haGGis> does any 1 know how to get the OSX style menu on this theme metacity
[12:57] <ViriiGuy> amphi yea it is a emachines m6805
[12:57] <ViriiGuy> dbernar1 no what is it?
[12:57] <chirag> i have a problem where my xmms just randomly shuts off while im going through the playlist
[12:57] <mlowe> carfuego comes in a package now ?
[12:57] <chirag> the music is running off of my windows partition
[12:57] <dbernar1> ViriiGuy: You can follow that page. I got my iBook wireless working with it:)
[12:57] <amphi> ViriiGuy: if nothing else works, ralink-based cardbus cards are cheap and have a GPL driver
[12:58] <mtairhead> ok... I got this, erUSUL - - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12353
[12:58] <dbernar1> I used the cafuego package. However, that one may be just for airport extremes. Let's ask
[12:58] <dbernar1> cafuego: ping
[12:58] <amphi> dbernar1: the 'airport' is a broadcom 43xx?
[12:58] <ViriiGuy> I have gone thru that page in the past with no luck
[12:58] <dbernar1> amphi: yes.
[12:58] <ViriiGuy> but I will try it again.
[12:58] <dbernar1> amphi: airport extreme, sorry.
[12:58] <amphi> dbernar1: thanks, could be useful to know
[12:58] <haGGis> does any 1 know how to get the OSX style menu on this theme metacity
[12:58] <ViriiGuy> amphi this is true, but it just kinda defeats the whole purpose for me :D
[12:59] <errpast-hc2> how do I toggle between full screen and not full screen when playing a video clip via Flash plugin.  Breezy 5.1
[12:59] <amphi> ViriiGuy: yeah
[12:59] <ViriiGuy> so far I have everything except my wireless working
[12:59] <erUSUL> mtairhead: is strange your card is recogniced and the right drivers are loaded but you can not play sounds :(
[12:59] <ViriiGuy> and for over a year I have tried it on numerous linux distros
[01:00] <eugman> Anyone here acquainted with the frotz package?
[01:00] <amphi> eugman: yeah ;)
[01:00] <eugman> How do I open a .sav   ?
[01:00] <toxic_> [bash]  how come this expressions yeilds, "0+1+1+1+1" etc rather than 0,1,2,3 .. NUM=${NUM}+1
[01:00] <erUSUL> mtairhead: try this 'sudo udevstart'
[01:00] <amphi> eugman: you're the first person I've seen ask that
[01:00] <eugman> or use it or whatever
[01:00] <mtairhead> :/ That sounds like my luck.. The thing is, I can hear some sounds...System sounds (Startup/shutdown) work fine. Only, I can't stream or play mp3s
[01:00] <bjorn_> void^?
[01:00] <dbernar1> ViriiGuy: well, nothing to lose, then. Install that cafuego package. Then run iwconfig, and tell me what you get(I will be back in 10-15 mins, though, you can try pm, if you are registered.)
[01:00] <mwe> eugman: what's that?
[01:00] <mtairhead> .... ok...trying..
[01:00] <tristanmike> !tell mtairhead about mp3
[01:00] <_paradise_> why is Ununtu trying to install python-vte?
[01:01] <eugman> The save file for infrocom based interactive fiction games.
[01:01] <mlowe> anybody know what package has a program called rl ? (it shuffles lines of text in a file )
[01:01] <_paradise_> why is Ununtu trying to install python-vte? what exactly is python-vte?
[01:01] <EvilDin> HOW to limit upload and download of ubuntu system in general
[01:01] <ViriiGuy> dbernarl ok I will do that now
[01:01] <void^> bjorn_: ?
[01:01] <tristanmike> !tell mtairhead about sources
[01:01] <amphi> eugman: R
[01:01] <bjorn_> void^: I have installed new java
[01:01] <bjorn_> void^: This is my version now
[01:01] <eugman> amphi, my experiance with interactive fiction is limited to the last three or so days. Heck zork is older than I am probably.
[01:01] <bjorn_> void^: gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.0.2 20050808 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.0.1-4ubuntu9)
[01:02] <_paradise_> why is Ununtu trying to install python-vte? what exactly is python-vte?  anmyone help?
[01:02] <bjorn_> void^: One Torrent is now connected, but still doesn't download
[01:02] <mwe> mlowe: randomize-lines
[01:02] <void^> bjorn_: you didn't activate it. i'm sure the wiki covers that; something with update-alternatives
[01:02] <amphi> eugman: heh - anchorhead is quite a good one (if you like Lovecraft)
[01:02] <Tomcat_> !info python-vte
[01:02] <ubotu> python-vte: (Python bindings for the VTE widget set), section universe/python, is optional. Version: 1:0.11.15-0ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 119 kB, Installed size: 276 kB
[01:02] <bjorn_> void^: Ok, I'll check
[01:02] <void^> bjorn_: or if you did, you may have to reopen the terminal you run azureus from, or relogin
[01:02] <mlowe> mwe, thankyou
[01:03] <braniff> where can i find the package ***kernel-headers-2.6.12-9-amd64-generic*** ??
[01:03] <amphi> eugman: type restore and hit enter, and enter the filename
[01:03] <bjorn_> !java
[01:03] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[01:03] <mwe> braniff: aren't you looking for linux-headers?
[01:03] <braniff> mwe, maybe that is what i need...
[01:03] <mtairhead> ok... I ran 'sudo udevstart' , put in my pass.... no output
[01:03] <mwe> braniff: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[01:04] <Klick_> Can anyone help me figure out how to downgrade to xorg <7 i installed dapper and it broke my wacom device, how do i edit my repos to get xorg 6.x instalable
[01:04] <amphi> eugman: FWIW, you can get frotz to build with APE under plan 9 and run it in acme ;)
[01:04] <eobanb> har
[01:04] <eugman> amphi, Perfect! Ok now in english please. heh.
[01:05] <eugman> What is acme?
[01:05] <ViriiGuy> where do I find this cafuego package?
[01:05] <braniff> mwe, thanks
[01:05] <mwe> Klick_: that's completely unsupported
[01:05] <eugman> beside the main supporter of wily e coyote.
[01:05] <bjorn_> void^: java version "1.5.0_06"
[01:05] <void^> better
[01:05] <mwe> Klick_: and it probably wont work
[01:05] <ViriiGuy> !cafuego
[01:05] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ViriiGuy
[01:05] <ohzie> Can I make /dev/hdc point to /media/cdrecorder
[01:05] <ohzie> ?
[01:06] <amphi> eugman: you are familiar with http://wurb.com/if/platform/1
[01:06] <amphi> eugman: ?
[01:06] <eobanb> ohzie, it doesn't work like that
[01:06] <amphi> ohzie: no, you can do it the other waty round
[01:06] <eobanb> ohzie, /dev/hdc is a device node, /media/cdrecorder is (i presume) a mount point
[01:06] <Klick_> mwe, best to delete the whole system an reinstall breezy?
[01:06] <mwe> ohzie: you don't make a device point somewhere. you mount it
[01:06] <eugman> not really.
[01:07] <eugman> was getting the files from a different site.
[01:07] <intelikey> Klick_ it might be possable if you remove xorg then set the repos to breezy and install xorg..... but it's will probably break all kinds of x-apps  idk.
[01:07] <mwe> Klick_: probably. unless you can fix your problem in xorg-7
[01:07] <ohzie> My problem is that cedega is looking for the cd-rom in /dev/hdc
[01:07] <amphi> eugman: url?
[01:07] <ohzie> And the cd-rom is mounted in /media/cdrecorder
[01:07] <eugman> http://ifarchive.heanet.ie/indexes/if-archiveXgamesXzcode.html
[01:07] <amphi> eugman: ta
[01:07] <eugman> I think there was a link mention baf's somewhere along the way however.
[01:07] <Klick_> mwe,  any chance you can help me fix the problem in xorg7?
[01:07] <mwe> Klick_: I don't know. what is it, specifically?
[01:08] <Klick_> wacom driver doesnt load
[01:08] <bjorn_> void^: It connects now, but it still is much slower than in Windows, what can be the problem?
[01:08] <eugman> Yeah a link to baf's guide is on the front page of that site.
[01:08] <errpast-hc2> How to get fullscreen mode for a Flash animation
[01:08] <void^> bjorn_: you restarted several times and didn't give it much time just now and your settings are probably bad and you're probably firewalled :P
[01:09] <mwe> Klick_: I am not familiar with it
[01:09] <Klick_> mwe, ok thanks anyways
[01:09] <mwe> Klick_: maybe someone else is
[01:09] <bjorn_> void^: No, I don't have a firewall, but how do you mean my settings are bad?
[01:10] <tonyyarusso> Any know of a pseudo-graphical cli application (like sysv-rc-conf or aptitude style) for managing users and groups?
[01:10] <obscurite> Hard to believe but after several failed 5.10 server installs I'm burning another disk at 1x speed. I may as well go out and buy a lucky rabbit's foot while I'm at it.
[01:10] <amphi> eugman: I saw an X z-code interpreter FWIW, called zoom IIRC, not that X buys you much ;)
[01:10] <void^> bjorn_: see azureus.aelitis.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
[01:10] <intelikey> how many lines are needed in /etc/apt/sources.list to get all repos ?   2 ?
[01:11] <bjorn_> void^: Ok
[01:11] <mwe> intelikey: you can just add the universe and multivers keywords to the default lines
[01:11] <tonyyarusso> intelikey: Depends what you mean by all repos.
[01:11] <mwe> multiverse*
[01:11] <intelikey> or 3 including sources
[01:12] <mwe> intelikey: you need the securitry, deb and deb-src lines
[01:12] <_paradise_> why is Ununtu trying to install python-vte? what exactly is python-vte?  anmyone help?
[01:12] <intelikey> 1 for main universe and multivers   2 for updates    3 for source packages   ?
[01:12] <_paradise_> anyone?:)
[01:12] <ptlo> _paradise_: python bindings for vte library (vte is the engine for the gnome terminal, a terminal emulator)
[01:13] <_paradise_> ptlo: so why was it never installed before today?
[01:13] <eugman> A bit off topic but why would anyone want a package to compile stuff in brainf*ck ? I mean seriously whats the point?
[01:13] <Alexi5> hello
[01:14] <dbernar1> intelikey: look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11487
[01:14] <ITSa341> Alexi5 HI
[01:14] <obscurite> eugman - because you CAN ;)
[01:14] <amphi> eugman: so they can compile their dvd decryptor? ;)
[01:14] <dbernar1> ptlo: hi.
[01:14] <mwe> intelikey: I have two for main, restricted, universe and multiverse, deb and deb-src. then another two for security, deb and deb-src
[01:15] <dbernar1> ptlo: I'm coming soon:)
[01:15] <Definity> hi
[01:15] <eugman> obscurite, I guess some people get a sense of accomplisment in writing a calculator in an absurdly difficult language.
[01:15] <kicker> how can I know wich flash player version I have installed?
[01:15] <intelikey> so it would take 4 lines to add all repos then     correct ?
[01:15] <amphi> eugman: http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/DeCSS/Gallery/css-brainfuck.txt
[01:15] <Alexi5> i was thinking of using oracle on ubuntu for a databse server at work. is it ok to that with ubuntu?
[01:15] <kicker> *which
[01:16] <dbernar1> intelikey: look at that post:-/
[01:16] <ptlo> dbernar1: heya...where? :)
[01:16] <mwe> intelikey: yeah I think so
[01:16] <intelikey> cause i forgot security  & update  were seperate
[01:16] <intelikey> dbernar1 i did look at it.
[01:16] <erUSUL> Alexi5: why not run Postgres for free? (if you must you can run oracle in linux)
[01:17] <eugman> sweet, jebus!
[01:17] <mwe> intelikey: that is all repos as in main, restricted, universe and multiverse including security
[01:17] <dbernar1> ptlo: First I am coming to Sarajevo on 15.5. 'til 03.06. Then from there on, I will be in Zagreb.
[01:17] <dbernar1> intelikey: Well, that should explain everything.
[01:17] <Alexi5> erUSUL:whats wrong with oracle
[01:17] <ptlo> dbernar1: cool! we should meet up, have a beer :-)
[01:17] <obscurite> amphi - amazing :D
[01:17] <dbernar1> ptlo: totally.
[01:18] <intelikey> mwe   yes.    wasn't counting backports or plf as they are "non-official" so to speak.
[01:18] <amphi> obscurite: I haven't tried it ;) the perl ones are good examples for people who think perl is a 'write-only' language
[01:19] <erUSUL> Alexi5: is not free/libre software 8^P and it cost a "few"  too...
[01:19] <ViriiGuy> /msg dbernar1 this is my iwconfig.......
[01:19] <ViriiGuy> lo        no wireless extensions.
[01:19] <ViriiGuy> eth1      no wireless extensions.
[01:19] <ViriiGuy> eth0      IEEE 802.11b/g  ESSID:off/any  Nickname:"Broadcom 4306"
[01:19] <ViriiGuy>           Mode:Managed  Frequency=2.437 GHz  Access Point: Invalid
[01:19] <ViriiGuy>           Bit Rate=11 Mb/s   Tx-Power=15 dBm
[01:19] <ViriiGuy>           RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
[01:19] <ViriiGuy> sit0      no wireless extensions.
[01:19] <ViriiGuy> opps :D
[01:19] <mwe> ViriiGuy: don't do that
[01:19] <intelikey> !flood
[01:19] <ubotu> well, flood is for pasting, please use http://pastebin.com , http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or #flood here on freenode.
[01:19] <eugman> hey amphi, what's a good one to start with for getting a hang of if?
[01:19] <ViriiGuy> sorry about that
[01:19] <dbernar1> :) So, it us there:)
[01:19] <dbernar1> ViriiGuy: /j #dabar
[01:20] <dbernar1> ptlo: it's me, dabar, btw:)
[01:20] <ptlo> dbernar1: yeah, i've guessed it :)
[01:21] <amphi> eugman: anchorhead has both a general and a game-specific tutorial
[01:22] <amphi> eugman: just type 'help' at the prompt and it'll give you a menu
[01:23] <eugman> k
[01:23] <errpast-hc2> I'm unsuccessfully trying to play an embedded video from a web page.  I get an error about "totem and fd0"  Strange thing is that 1 hour ago, this video played fine
[01:24] <LinuxNoob|Scott> sup all
[01:24] <errpast-hc2> When it played fine, I think it was playing via a Flash Plugin.  Because when I first linked to it, about 2 hours ago, Mozilla requested I install the plugin
[01:24] <LinuxNoob|Scott> im givin up on ubuntu, going to try fedora (even tho I dont like it, a friend is going to use it and I said I would try it)
[01:24] <errpast-hc2> Not sure how to troubleshoot
[01:24] <LinuxNoob|Scott> if that sucks, im going to suse
[01:25] <jbroome> LinuxNoob|Scott: you'll be back
[01:25] <LinuxNoob|Scott> not sure about that
[01:25] <obscurite> LinuxNoob|Scott - what didn't you like?
[01:25] <errpast-hc2> about:plugins in Mozilla shows both Flash and totem installed
[01:25] <LinuxNoob|Scott> been hell getting some stuff working
[01:25] <eugman> errpast, have you considered using mozilla-mplayer instead?
[01:25] <obscurite> LinuxNoob|Scott - like what?
[01:25] <LinuxNoob|Scott> getting skype workin, getting my usb drive working, getting my dvd burner working
[01:25] <LinuxNoob|Scott> today is only my first day though.
[01:25] <errpast-hc2> eugman, thanks for suggestion. would I just apt-get install mozilla-mplayer?
[01:26] <LinuxNoob|Scott> first day off XP
[01:26] <LinuxNoob|Scott> i might come back
[01:26] <obscurite> LinuxNoob|Scott - Dapper will be out shortly with a newer kernel too
[01:26] <LinuxNoob|Scott> i like the look and feel of it
[01:26] <immolo> LinuxNoob|Scott, some advice fedora is worse
[01:26] <obscurite> LinuxNoob|Scott - i agree, fedora is tougher to get right
[01:26] <LinuxNoob|Scott> I really want to do Suse, about 8 guys in our engineering department at work use it.
[01:26] <guy7595> hi can some one help me install some deb files
[01:26] <LinuxNoob|Scott> they seem to like the ease of use and very compatible with everything
[01:26] <obscurite> Suse has a good reputation for just working
[01:26] <LinuxNoob|Scott> yeah.
[01:27] <LinuxNoob|Scott> Thats what I want...but my friend suggested I try Fedora Core 5
[01:27] <eugman> erpast-hc2, I forget if there is a " 368" or something after that so you should us a * at the end or use synaptic.
[01:27] <LinuxNoob|Scott> ick... anything RedHat just says (noob) all over it.
[01:27] <disasm> sweet, ubuntu breezy raid5 on / and /var working like a charm!!!
[01:27] <LinuxNoob|Scott> even tho im a linux noob
[01:27] <LinuxNoob|Scott> i dont want an os that gives that impression
[01:27] <intelikey> dbernar1 is there no deb-src  for -security or -updates    universe multiverse   ?
[01:27] <obscurite> LinuxNoob|Scott - I used redhat for years, but fedora kind of turned me off
[01:27] <LinuxNoob|Scott> redhat doesnt look as good on a resume as debian does
[01:27] <slavik> !backports
[01:27] <ubotu> backports is, like, totally, Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main universe multiverse restricted" (without the ") to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[01:27] <obscurite> LinuxNoob|Scott - it doesn't have the kind of community Ubuntu seems to have
[01:28] <guy7595> hi can some one help me install some deb files
[01:28] <immolo> LinuxNoob|Scott, If I was you I would either pick gentoo or ubuntu and seeings as it's your first day off win32 I would make ubuntu work, give it a week and you willl wonder why you wanted to switch
[01:28] <LinuxNoob|Scott> whats that, fedora or suse
[01:28] <errpast-hc2> eugman, thanks, will try.  If I do successully install it, do I have to do something to tell Mozilla to use X program to open video files?  How will Mozilla know what to use?
[01:28] <LinuxNoob|Scott> well, i was having problems finding people here to help me, and I hate reading manuals  (i know its kind of my fault) but I know lots of people on suse that can fix my stuff in no time
[01:28] <LinuxNoob|Scott> if i need help
[01:28] <LinuxNoob|Scott> i have it
[01:29] <intelikey> guy7595 enable the repos and use synaptic.   if you "MUST" install a .deb you download   sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[01:29] <LinuxNoob|Scott> I apppreciate all the help I got here today though, thanks again guys!
[01:29] <LinuxNoob|Scott> you all rock
[01:29] <obscurite> LinuxNoob|Scott - if everyone at work uses Suse, then go for it. You can also dual-boot and do a side by side comparison
[01:29] <LinuxNoob|Scott> yeah
[01:29] <dbernar1> intelikey: where, on my page? It has, it is all commented out, cause I never use sources.
[01:29] <LinuxNoob|Scott> im going to use vmware
[01:29] <LinuxNoob|Scott> if it works on linux
[01:29] <bur[n] er> as long as it's not windows or os x:)
[01:29] <LinuxNoob|Scott> you know osx is BSD
[01:29] <obscurite> LinuxNoob|Scott - you can install vmware on suse, i think suse is supported
[01:29] <LinuxNoob|Scott> THX cya
[01:29] <eugman> errpast-hc2, hmm I don't know hwo to help with that. Give it a try first because it might just work without any extra help.
[01:30] <intelikey> dbernar1 would you show me the line please ?
[01:30] <immolo> osx was BSD :P
[01:30] <obscurite> OSX is not BSD. It's similar to freebsd.
[01:30] <guy7595> is there a commmand to install xtux-client_0.2.030306-7_i386.deb;xtux-common_0.2.030306-7_all.deb;xtux-levels_0.2.030306-7_all.deb;xtux-server_0.2.030306-7_i386.deb all of them at the same time? if not can someone tell me how to set them up seprately?
[01:30] <LinuxNoob|Scott> AIM: sdveirs  -  Yahoo: VeirsScott
[01:30] <LinuxNoob|Scott> cya
[01:30] <obscurite> But then again what do I know (nothing).
[01:31] <dbernar1> intelikey: join #dabar
[01:31] <flodine> has anyone used kdocksmooth in gnome and does it work ok
[01:31] <errpast-hc2> eugman, thanks.  Will do.  Appreciate your help
[01:32] <jinho326> Hi has anyone had any problems with ubuntu after installing the ATI drivers from ATI?
[01:32] <intelikey> no  nm.     but thanks anyway .
[01:32] <amphi> obscurite: AFAIK it's bits of various BSDs running as a monolithic task on top of a mach microkernel, ghod knows why
[01:32] <bur[n] er> flodine: there's a gdesklet that accomplishes something similar
[01:32] <jinho326> after installing and restarting my ubuntu screen is all messed up
[01:32] <jinho326> and my keyboard isnt even recognized
[01:33] <guy7595> is there a commmand to file1.deb;file2.deb;file3.deb all of them at the same time? if not can someone tell me how to set them up seprately?
[01:33] <bur[n] er> jinho326: i'm guessing your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file is all f'd up :)
[01:33] <flodine> bur[n] er yeah but it look weak
[01:33] <dbernar1> intelikey: OK.
[01:33] <bur[n] er> flodine: you can do "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and that might work
[01:33] <jinho326> bur[n] er: no doubt
[01:33] <amphi> guy7595: to install them you mean?
[01:33] <guy7595> to install those
[01:33] <guy7595> yeah
[01:33] <erUSUL> guy7595: if you have all the debs in a dir you can run ls *.deb | xargs sudo dpkg -i
[01:33] <jinho326> bur[n] er: I tried "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" in recovery mode in the shell
[01:33] <bur[n] er> guy7595: put them in a directory... sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[01:33] <flodine> bur[n] er how is that gloing to help gdesklets
[01:33] <jinho326> bur[n] er: and had no luck
[01:34] <amphi> guy7595: for i in *.deb; do dpkg -i $i; done will install all .deb files in the current directory
[01:34] <guy7595> THX GUYS !!!
[01:34] <bur[n] er> jinho326: pick different settings till it works :)  and use a basic ati or radeon driver instead of fglrx
[01:34] <intelikey> dbernar1 i only asked if they existed because they are not mentioned in your post at all.  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11487
[01:34] <bur[n] er> jinho326: why not use the .deb for the ATI drivers?
[01:34] <jinho326> bur[n] er: is there anyway to get rid of the ati drivers?
[01:34] <bur[n] er> jinho326: no idea... i use .deb packages ;)
[01:34] <intelikey> but like i said never mind.
[01:34] <dbernar1> intelikey: if you join #dabar, we can go through each of the lines, and see.
[01:34] <jinho326> bur[n] er: well...I dont know how to get stuff to work...I'm a total noob
[01:35] <bjorn_> void^: Ok thanks for your help
[01:35] <jinho326> bur[n] er: do I do the sudo apt-get install command?
[01:35] <bur[n] er> jinho326: did you go off the wiki page to install them?
[01:35] <bur[n] er> jinho326: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriversHowTo/ATI
[01:35] <jinho326> bur[n] er: o...i followed the ati instructions
[01:36] <bur[n] er> there's yer first problem ;)
[01:36] <bur[n] er> i gave you teh wrong link... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI is correct
[01:37] <jinho326> bur[n] er: wow...even ATI can't get it right...
[01:38] <bur[n] er> ATI frustrates me with non-open drivers :\
[01:38] <intelikey> jinho326 this is linux, where there is your way my way and probably a better way.   :)
[01:38] <bur[n] er> Nvidia does as well for the same reason ;)
[01:38] <bur[n] er> ubuntu gets the way pretty well though intelikey
[01:38] <kh40s> anyone have experience with toshset utility?
[01:39] <jinho326> intelikey: no doubt, forgive me I'm a recent convert from windows...I'm still new to the truth :-)
[01:39] <djuanmartinez> hi
[01:39] <bur[n] er> hola
[01:39] <kh40s> hello
[01:39] <djuanmartinez> I would like to know somebody can help me
[01:39] <jinho326> thanks bur[n] er, I'm gonna give this a shot
[01:39] <jinho326> wish me luck
[01:39] <bur[n] er> djuanmartinez: ask a question, i'm sure someone can :)
[01:40] <djuanmartinez> nice
[01:40] <djuanmartinez> I new user of Linux
[01:40] <dbernar1> I use GNU
[01:40] <djuanmartinez> I don't know why Mozilla browser cannot open some pages
[01:41] <dli> djuanmartinez, example?
[01:41] <djuanmartinez> like chats
[01:41] <bur[n] er> djuanmartinez: can we assume Mozilla Firefox?
[01:41] <bur[n] er> djuanmartinez: URL?
[01:41] <intelikey> bur[n] er that was kinda my point it's not "the way"  it's  "a way"    a good way, i suppose but not the "only way"  or the "right way"   the right way is any way the owner is satisfied to get to the end result.
[01:41] <djuanmartinez> www.uol.com.br/bp
[01:42] <djuanmartinez> is there any optino that I must to set?
[01:42] <iceman> Cool, devoting one pc to linux ..... PIII 733  ...256 meg ram ... 13.5 gig hdd ....
[01:43] <flippermorg> hey
[01:43] <flippermorg> i cant instal any thing on mi linux ubuntu
[01:43] <kh40s> anyone know about multiple screens config for a laptop?
[01:43] <iceman> or do i devote a AMD athlon 700 for linux ?
[01:44] <intelikey> mozilla-browser - The Mozilla Internet application suite - core and browser   <--- is that firefox ?
[01:44] <dli> djuanmartinez, javascript
[01:44] <bur[n] er> djuanmartinez: i do not see the chat... sorry
[01:44] <intelikey> or the old mozilla ?
[01:44] <bur[n] er> intelikey: no
[01:44] <obscurite> kh40s - which graphics chipset?
[01:44] <Warbo> flippermorg: Are you using graphical or command line?
[01:44] <dli> djuanmartinez, javascript only page is silly or even evil
[01:44] <kh40s> nvidia 440 go
[01:44] <bur[n] er> flippermorg: how are you trying to do it? :)
[01:45] <intelikey> bur[n] er hmmmm good i'll try it then.
[01:45] <obscurite> kh40s - someone gave me this nice xinerama link earlier: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Xinerama-HOWTO/index.html
[01:45] <flippermorg> well i try just to run but it dosnt work and the a run it in the terminal but i dosent wokt ether
[01:45] <iceman> boy got AMD or Intel for a Linux box ...
[01:45] <flippermorg> im trying to instal limerwire
[01:46] <kh40s> obscurite: did you use the -configure option while starting gdm?
[01:46] <bur[n] er> iceman: the one with the nvidia graphics card
[01:46] <Warbo> flippermorg: If you want Limewire I recommend searching on apt-get.org and adding the line that begins with "deb" to the "repositories" in synaptic (add a custom one)
[01:46] <obscurite> kh40s - i'm only using one display right now actually
[01:46] <flippermorg> oki
[01:46] <iceman> bur[n] er could put nidia in either ...
[01:46] <slavik> anjuta 2 is not ready
[01:47] <iceman> got several ati cards i can use in the athlon
[01:48] <david_> hi all
[01:48] <kh40s> obscurite: The problem is strange... I can get each monitor working just fine independently, but when I try to enable them both simultaneously, it fails
[01:48] <flippermorg> were do i got on apt-get.org
[01:48] <speedie> does anyone know where I can find some info on configuring oracle with apache for ssl?
[01:48] <Drac[Server] > I successfully installed the nvidia legacy drivers for my 32MB GeForce 2 card, but I'm only getting 400FPS out of it. Is this typical of such a card, or what?
[01:48] <Warbo> flippermorg: hang on, I'll try to find one for you
[01:48] <flippermorg> ok
[01:48] <david_> does anyone know where I can find a driver for a lexmark P4350 for ubuntu?
[01:49] <obscurite> kh40s - yeah, dual monitors seems to be the darkest kind of linux black magic. Wish I could help but I'm pretty useless on this topic.
[01:49] <Drac[Server] > david_, while it's possible that you might find one after weeks of searching, I would really recommend that you sell your Lexmark and purchase a better quality, linux-compatible printer.
[01:49] <kh40s> obscurite: ok.. thanks for trying
[01:49] <mirak> does anyone have TV out working with Xorg and ATI drivers ?
[01:49] <mirak> on dapper
[01:50] <flippermorg> on my other comp i got ati
[01:50] <jadaz87> !dapper
[01:50] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[01:50] <jadaz87> is there a way to get tv out working on breezy?
[01:50] <Drac[Server] > mirak, I've never had any success with ATI drivers and video out. It seems that it's not supported, or something.
[01:50] <mirak> flippermorg: I got one on my tamagochi
[01:50] <kaitlyn> Hello all, I was wondering if there is a boot option on the Ubuntu 5.10 Live CD x86 to start in runlevel 3?  (Itried live 3, but that didn't work).
[01:50] <flippermorg> like it?
[01:51] <Warbo> flippermorg: OK, go into Synaptic, go on "Settings" menu, "repositories"
[01:51] <mirak> Drac[Server] : I remember having it working in July
[01:51] <david_> Drac, is there no possibility of finding a driver then? as i'd prefer to keep the lexmark?
[01:51] <Drac[Server] > mirak, really? Lucky... I never got it to work...
[01:51] <flippermorg> were is synaptic
[01:51] <intelikey> oh yeah,  i forgot i did try mozilla-browser   the package has a bug.    it returns this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d12358
[01:51] <mirak> well I installed following that procedure : ---> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide#Method_1:_Installing_Dapper.27s_Included_Driver_.288.23.7.29
[01:52] <Warbo> System -> Administration -> Synaptic Package Manager
[01:52] <erUSUL> kaitlyn: in debian/ubuntu all runlevels are equal afaik (except 0 and 6 of course)
[01:52] <mirak> the joke is that now there is not even a TV OUT control showing on the control panel
[01:52] <sophie^> Warbo: dpkg
[01:52] <dli> kaitlyn, "single"
[01:52] <intelikey> hehhe now i have to edit the install/remove scripts to remove it.....
[01:52] <flippermorg> ok
[01:52] <mirak> the drivers have lost TV out
[01:52] <jadaz87> mirak does it work on breezy?
[01:52] <dli> kaitlyn, where did you get the runlevel 3 thing?
[01:53] <mythicness> hi guys
[01:53] <Drac[Server] > david_, you ought to ask around about Lexmark's quality and reconsider what you just said. Regardless, there are few Lexmark drivers out there. Like I said, it's possible that somebody might have developed one, but since Lexmark only recently started releasing open source drivers, you're probably not going to find one very easily.
[01:53] <mirak> jadaz87: I don't know I used it only in october
[01:53] <Warbo> flippermorg: On settings -> repositories click "Add"
[01:53] <refnumzx> having problems with an install did a server install have dsl and two NIC eth0 and eth1 ran pppoeconf and i don't have an ip address /etc/network/interfaces looks good
[01:53] <flippermorg> ok
[01:53] <kaitlyn> Thanks dli, and erUSUL.  :)
[01:53] <flippermorg> after
[01:53] <mirak> jadaz87: at laest it was working. I think the switch to xorg killed everything
[01:53] <kaitlyn> dli: On redhat I used to use <kernel> 1.
[01:53] <mirak> or the ati update
[01:53] <mythicness> Could anyone help me please
[01:53] <mythicness> http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/debian-linux-help/58814-make-modules-failing-no-rule-make-target-mismatched-versions.html#post317678
[01:53] <mirak> don't know
[01:53] <Warbo> Then go custom and put in this "deb http://ftp.debian-unofficial.org/debian sarge main contrib non-free restricted" without the quotes
[01:53] <mythicness> That explains my problem
[01:53] <jadaz87> mirak what did you do to enable it just plug in the tvout port on your laptop?
[01:54] <mirak> jadaz87: it's a desktop computer
[01:54] <jadaz87> mirak or are you talking about a desktop
[01:54] <mirak> jadaz87: that's a tower
[01:54] <jadaz87> mirak oh ok why did they switch from xorg ?
[01:54] <mythicness> make[1] : *** No rule to make target `arch/i386/kernel/msr.c', needed by `arch/i386/kernel/msr.o'. Stop.
[01:54] <mirak> with a radeon 9600
[01:54] <david_> Drac[Server] : okay thanks anyways, will have a look around.... what brand of printers do have linux support?
[01:55] <flippermorg> what exacle do i write
[01:55] <Warbo> flippermorg: Then add it and get back to the main synaptic window and click "Reload", then wait!
[01:55] <Warbo> Oh
[01:55] <mythicness> make modules generates that error, can anyone give me some help?
[01:55] <mirak> jadaz87: xorg is the linux server now. They forked from Xfree
[01:55] <Warbo> Just copy the line I put
[01:55] <intelikey> kaitlyn runlevels 2-5 are all equal in ubuntu.    if you are wanting  non-X mode you need single   runlevel 1
[01:55] <dli> mythicness, is this #ubuntu?
[01:55] <donr> Does anyone know what could cause wpa_supplicant to connect, disconnect, ... about every 10 sec?
[01:55] <gwkw> ya..
[01:55] <Warbo> flippermorg: deb http://ftp.debian-unofficial.org/debian sarge main contrib non-free restricted
[01:55] <gwkw> hi all
[01:55] <mythicness> I am running Ubuntu yes
[01:55] <intelikey> DeMoNSeED http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d12358
[01:56] <dli> mythicness, then, you don't need "make modules"
[01:56] <mythicness> i am following this article: http://www.abarbaccia.com/content/view/18/33/
[01:56] <dli> mythicness, get kernel source, (by apt or from kernel.org)
[01:56] <intelikey> DeMoNSeED it's a bug in the installer.    5.4
[01:56] <gwkw> got a question..  about the error in synaptic package manager (completely noob)
[01:56] <gwkw> E: ttf-baekmuk: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[01:56] <gwkw> E: ubuntu-desktop: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[01:57] <gwkw> anyone can help would be appreciated =>
[01:57] <dli> mythicness, don't follow it, "make modules" is not the ubuntu way
[01:57] <flippermorg> ok
[01:57] <mythicness> heh - so i've learnt
[01:57] <Warbo> gwkw: ubuntu-desktop doesn't do anything, it just depends on other programs for you. Common desktop ones
[01:57] <mythicness> ok well any idea's how else i can get lirc going on my system ?
[01:57] <dli> mythicness, since you are making silly mistakes, restart, follow the debian way
[01:57] <intelikey> DeMoNSeED s/installer/postinst.sh and postrm.sh scripts/
[01:57] <flippermorg> ok
[01:57] <Warbo> gwkw: You will still want to get that fixed but it's not major :)
[01:58] <gwkw> warbo : dont get it.. do you have a baby language version of that?
[01:58] <flippermorg> ok
[01:58] <Warbo> flippermorg: OK, click add, then OK, then reload
[01:58] <dieterluypaert> hello
[01:58] <dli> mythicness, and you still want to build your kernel ?
[01:58] <flippermorg> ok
[01:58] <gwkw> warbo: but i cant install anything at the moment..
[01:58] <refnumzx> i need to reconfigure the network on  server install how can i do this
[01:58] <mythicness> dli: i dont want to, i just thought there would be no other way
[01:58] <Drac[Server] > I successfully installed the nvidia legacy drivers for my 32MB GeForce 2 card, but I'm only getting 400FPS out of it. Is this typical of such a card, or what?
[01:58] <Warbo> So has it reloaded it's lists of packages (got a downloading window thing)
[01:58] <intelikey> DeMoNSeED no synaptic here.
[01:58] <darkgamer20> I did a fresh install of breezy (5.10) and when the configuration is all the xorg dosen't seem to be starting. my video card is an nvidia tnt2 m64 can someone tell me whats wrong?
[01:58] <mythicness> dli: If I run the lirc install and i select driver config it throws this error: ./lirc-0.8.0/setup.sh: line 268: ./setup-driver.sh: No such file or directory
[01:58] <gwkw> warbo: ya..
[01:58] <mythicness> is that unrelated?
[01:58] <gwkw> but just cant install
[01:59] <amphi> gwkw: the meta-package ubuntu-desktop is not installing because it depends on the ttf-baekmuk package, which is giving an error
[01:59] <gwkw> amphi: ya. how can i get rid of it?
[01:59] <flippermorg> it has
[01:59] <jadaz87> mirak what is wrong with xfree?
[02:00] <david_> im a complete beginner at ubuntu/linux, first time installation today...... i was wondering if someone could help me install FireFox 1.5 as I cant seem to work it out?
[02:00] <flippermorg> xfire
[02:00] <devnull_> hello
[02:00] <dli> mythicness, no, I suggest to you read the basic ubuntu how, use synaptic or apt to install packages
[02:00] <Warbo> flippermorg: It will come up an "error" when you reload, as it can't verify the new repository, but you can forget about it
[02:00] <Lance_L> xserve
[02:00] <mythicness> ok ill try that
[02:00] <mirak> jadaz87: don't know
[02:00] <MTecknology> Does anybody know of a linux program that I can use to call somebody with cable internet and type what i want to say to them?
[02:00] <flippermorg> warbo:ok
[02:00] <Warbo> flippermorg: Go on search and put it limewire
[02:00] <mirak> jadaz87: tensions
[02:00] <mythicness> thanks dli
[02:00] <amphi> gwkw: dunno, try reinstalling ttf-baekmuk, and if it works, install ubuntu-desktop
[02:00] <intelikey> DeMoNSeED you are sujesting that the bug has been fixed ?   ok i'll try it.
[02:00] <darkgamer20> I did a fresh install of 5.10 and when the configuration is all done xorg dosen't seem to be starting. my video card is an nvidia tnt2 m64 can someone tell me whats wrong?
[02:00] <devnull_> i am having issues with my wireless networking ... i had wireless up and running with ndiswrapper when i was using ubuntu amd64 but i switched back to 32bit with a standard ubuntu kernel and can't get my wireless working
[02:00] <Drac[Server] > Can somebody please give me a quick answer? I have to go in just a moment.
[02:00] <mirak> jadaz87: xfree was not only used for linux
[02:00] <flippermorg> ok
[02:00] <dli> MTecknology, skype (not free, but free of charge for pc to pc)
[02:01] <gwkw> amphi: ok.. thanks..  i will go google for installing ubuntu-desktop
[02:01] <gwkw> thanks warbo too!! :)
[02:01] <dli> MTecknology, ediga (gnomemeeting)
[02:01] <amphi> gwkw: you need to find why ttf-baekmuk won't install
[02:01] <Warbo> flippermorg: Hang on, I'm doing it myself but cant find limewire :)
[02:01] <obscurite> I have a KVM hooked up to two breezy boxes, and occasionally the console gets vertically stretched out. any one have an ideas?
[02:01] <flippermorg> search it in home
[02:01] <jadaz87> mirak does xorg even have a website?
[02:01] <iceman> anyone done dual displays with ubuntu
[02:01] <dli> jadaz87, x.org
[02:02] <Warbo> flippermorg: Basically there should now be a package called "limewire-free-binary"
[02:02] <mirak> jadaz87: yes
[02:02] <intelikey> DeMoNSeED yeah i'll prolly be here.
[02:02] <flippermorg> limewire.xml
[02:02] <david_> anyone care to help me install FireFox 1.5 , im completely new to ubuntu/linux?
[02:02] <gwkw> just one more thing.. to anyone.. we type the 'sudo' code in terminal right?
[02:02] <jinho> bur[n] er: thank you, the link fixed it
[02:02] <Drac[Server] > Hell. I'd have better luck in the hardware channel at this rate. Bleh.
[02:03] <Drac[Server] > Off I go.
[02:03] <iceman> Anyone know if you can run dual displays in ubuntu ... ?
[02:03] <larsson_> hi
[02:03] <dli> david_, I think firefox 1.5 is in dapper
[02:03] <stunned> don't use it, use galeon
[02:03] <obscurite> david_ - go to System -> Administration -> Add Applications
[02:03] <jinho> speaking of firefox, does anyone know why it seems like I dont have full privileges on firefox? I can't find any option or preference button
[02:03] <gwkw> and when we they are asking ' are you root?' how should i reply? : I am root?
[02:03] <Warbo> flippermorg: Sorry, Apt-Get.org said it was there but they've removed it :(
[02:03] <flippermorg> ok
[02:03] <mythicness> aah ok found the problem
[02:04] <gwkw> i tried that.. it doest work..
[02:04] <dli> jinho, Edit -> Preference
[02:04] <david_> obscurite, will have a go thanks :)
[02:04] <flippermorg> so wa do i do
[02:04] <mythicness> looks like 0.8 lirc doesnt work with ubuntu
[02:04] <XJ> Where is cookies and temporary internet files?
[02:04] <Warbo> flippermorg: No worries, go back into repositories and get rid of the "debian-unofficial" bit
[02:04] <obscurite> david_ - firefox is under Internet > More Programs I think
[02:04] <mythicness> synaptic dl/ed 0.7 and its working 100% :D
[02:04] <jinho> dli: ah hmm lol how embarassing
[02:04] <mythicness> awesome - thanks dli
[02:04] <jinho> dli: thank you so much though
[02:04] <flippermorg> 0k
[02:05] <Warbo> flippermorg: Then reload
[02:05] <MTecknology> dli, does gnomemeeting call people (phone)
[02:05] <Warbo> flippermorg: What do you have at the moment? Have you downloaded a zip file of limewire?
[02:05] <XJ> Where is temporary internet junk, and cookies?
[02:05] <dli> MTecknology, skype does that, and you have to pay
[02:05] <david_> obscurite, right, i already have firefox installed, and am using it... but it is not the most up to date version (1.5) how do i go about installing it please?
[02:05] <MTecknology> dli, do you know any free alternatives?
[02:05] <flippermorg> yup but i unzipped it
[02:06] <Hexidigital> !tell david_ about firefox
[02:06] <XJ> Can any body help?
[02:06] <Warbo> flippermorg: OK, you need Java. In Synaptic search for java
[02:06] <devnull_> so are there any other ubuntu channels ?
[02:06] <Hexidigital> devnull_, #ubuntu+1 is for Dapper
[02:06] <jadaz87> stunned galeon is better than what?
[02:06] <iceman> wonder if Nvidia and a ATI will work for dual displays
[02:06] <flippermorg> warbo:ok
[02:07] <simonpca> a+, j'y vais
[02:07] <[Chameleon] > MTecknology: gnomemeeting was renamed to "Ekiga Softphone" and it uses ekiga.net, a free SIP service.
[02:07] <[Chameleon] > MTecknology: Ekiga is in Dapper Drake
[02:07] <intelikey> XJ it depends on the browser.   look in .mozilla*
[02:07] <XJ> How can I find temporary internet files and cookies please
[02:07] <XJ> oh
[02:07] <XJ> er
[02:07] <Warbo> flippermorg: You basically want to do everything through Synaptic. Then it SHOULD work, and also everything will get updated. Anyway...
[02:07] <XJ> Firefox
[02:07] <gwkw> huray.!! mp3 is working! thanks!!
[02:07] <obscurite> david_ - in firefox try Help -> Check for Updates
[02:07] <XJ> where is .mozilla?
[02:07] <stunned> MIT must bring those crankies to africa
[02:07] <amphi> XJ: ~
[02:07] <Hexidigital> !tell david_ about firefox1.5
[02:07] <MTecknology> [Chameleon] , is dapper stable yet?
[02:08] <flippermorg> ok
[02:08] <obscurite> david_ - in firefox try Help -> Check for Updates
[02:08] <[Chameleon] > MTecknology: stable enough for me
[02:08] <intelikey> XJ i just told you look in  ~/.mozilla*
[02:08] <Warbo> flippermorg: In the search results for java go down to J and tell me what's there
[02:08] <MTecknology> [Chameleon] , ... how long till it's out?
[02:08] <XJ> oh
[02:08] <XJ> you just said .mozilla, was not sure where that was
[02:08] <Warbo> flippermorg: There should be j2re1.4
[02:08] <[Chameleon] > MTecknology: I forgot... check the website.
[02:08] <david_> obscurite, there doesnt seem to be a Check for Updates option?
[02:08] <obscurite> david_ -> must be in the newer version, sorry
[02:09] <XJ> There is no .mozilla in home folder
[02:09] <ompaul> XJ, great questions they all (.mozilla and .mozilla-firefox) live in your home directory /home/your_usersname/.
[02:09] <iceman> there a how to for dual displays in linux "ubuntu"
[02:09] <intelikey> open a terminal and type   ls .mozilla*
[02:09] <flippermorg> warbo:nope dont have that
[02:09] <obscurite> david_ - I honestly don't remember how I updated my firefox
[02:09] <Steil> Does anyone know of a good NES emulator that supports joysticks?
[02:09] <intelikey> DeMoNSeED still dl`ing.   dialup  ;/
[02:09] <[Chameleon] > iceman: I used a good one... let me see if I can dig it up.
[02:09] <DeMoNSeED> k
[02:10] <XJ> ls .mozilla returns
[02:10] <XJ> appreg  firefox  mozver.dat  pluginreg.dat  plugins
[02:10] <stunned> DeMoNSeED: you are dead
[02:10] <XJ> ?
[02:10] <Warbo> flippermorg: This is in synaptic yes? Go into the repositories again :) I know what's wrong!
[02:10] <XJ> what does that mean?
[02:10] <XJ> And why must .mozilla be in home, if it is not in home?
[02:10] <flippermorg> ok
[02:10] <kh40s> who wants to help me get my firewire dvd burner working?
[02:10] <ompaul> XJ and the firefox subdirectory
[02:11] <XJ> ompaul????
[02:11] <david_> anyone else know how to update firefox 1.0.7 to 1.5?
[02:11] <Warbo> flippermorg: Go on add and it should say something like "Breezy Badger 5.10" or something.
[02:11] <ompaul> XJ, the filesystem has logic to it, that is your personal stuff in your home directory
[02:11] <dli> david_, I suppose upgrading to dapper :(
[02:11] <Hexidigital> david_ there's a wiki walkthrough
[02:11] <Hexidigital> !ff1.5
[02:11] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[02:11] <ompaul> XJ, it is the way linux works :)
[02:11] <flippermorg> yup
[02:11] <XJ> ompaul: Someone said there is .mozilla in ther!
[02:11] <stunned> gawd whan is my ubuntu download going to finish
[02:11] <XJ> Christ!
[02:11] <ompaul> XJ,  I do
[02:11] <stunned> do
[02:11] <intelikey> hmmm in fact this irc client is eating most of my "band-narrowness"   so i'll be back when i've tried this, DeMoNSeED
[02:11] <Warbo> flippermorg: If the "universe" and "multiverse" (community maintained, non-free, etc) are not checked then check them
[02:11] <stunned> green
[02:12] <XJ> There is no .mozilla in there!
[02:12] <__mikem> Thou shalt not use thi name in vein
[02:12] <XJ> where is it?
[02:12] <david_> thats great thanks hexidigital
[02:12] <[Chameleon] > XJ: Windows XP works the same way actually... It stores user settings in hidden folders under the user's Documents and Settings dir. same concept really.
[02:12] <DeMoNSeED> k
[02:12] <__mikem> oh what do I care, living a christian life got me nowhere in the end
[02:12] <dli> XJ, cd ~/.mozilla
[02:12] <Hexidigital> david_ no problem
[02:12] <darkgamer20> I just did a fresh install of ubuntu 5.10 and after the installer rebooted and finished configuring the system it tried to start xorg but its is just sitting there and i cannot go into any terminal to issue any commands. after reaserching I found out that my video is supported by the nvidia-legacy package but how do i install that if i can't type anything? can someone please please please help me?
[02:12] <XJ> XJ: So the .mozilla is hidden?
[02:12] <Warbo> flippermorg: Go OK and reload. (this is the first thing I do on Ubuntu, so no wonder I assumed they were on!)
[02:12] <XJ> I open it in console to see hidden files?
[02:12] <iceman> wonder if ati and nvidia will play well for a dual display .... one nvidia pci card ... ati agp card ...
[02:13] <slavik> __mikem: would you care to become a satanist today?
[02:13] <amphi> XJ: by default, ls does not display files and directories beginning with .
[02:13] <Hexidigital> david_ copy and paste the commands... if you mistype, you can really mess it up
[02:13] <flippermorg> ok
[02:13] <[Chameleon] > iceman: http://pwp.netcabo.pt/0150048402/linux/Multiple_Nvidia_Multiple_Head.html
[02:13] <iceman> ty
[02:13] <__mikem> slavik, lol no not really, I aint going polar yet
[02:13] <slavik> XJ: in nautilus press Ctrl+H
[02:13] <david_> okay thanks again hexidigital :)
[02:13] <flippermorg> W: GPG error: http://ftp.debian-unofficial.org sarge Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY D5642BC86823D007
[02:13] <Hexidigital> :)
[02:13] <XJ> I was already in .mozilla in console
[02:13] <slavik> it will show all hidden folders
[02:13] <XJ> okie
[02:13] <XJ> Oh my...
[02:13] <slavik> in case you ever want to use a gui
[02:13] <darkgamer20> please guys can someone please help me with my video card problem?
[02:13] <amphi> XJ: ls -a will show 'hidden' stuff
[02:14] <slavik> yes, that too
[02:14] <Warbo> flippermorg: OK, in the repositories you need to remove the "debian-unofficial". This isn't important, but it stops the annoying message!
[02:14] <slavik> I tried to install anjuta ...
[02:14] <slavik> it is teh sux
[02:14] <iceman> wonder if it will allow 2x video cards ...
[02:14] <MegaByte> Hexidigital meet your brother >:-)
[02:14] <XJ> I am in .mozilla, now where is temp files and cookies?
[02:14] <MTecknology> how do i update to dapper?
[02:14] <__mikem> I like the way linux deals with hidden files, it just makes file names starting with a '.' hidden, but windows makes it a file attribute which is bound to take up lots of space in the file system table in the long run
[02:14] <[Chameleon] > iceman: I used that to get my dual-head setup on Ubuntu Breezy using a single nVidia 6600 GT
[02:14] <Hexidigital> lol megabyte
[02:14] <XJ> Why would cookies not be in global folder?
[02:14] <MegaByte> !update
[02:14] <ubotu> MegaByte: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:14] <stunned> MTecknology: you wait.
[02:14] <MegaByte> !updating
[02:14] <ubotu> MegaByte: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:14] <XJ> They are in windows...
[02:14] <Hexidigital> !upgrade
[02:14] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade.  Upgrading to dapper (remember it may break). Please test the dist-upgrader -> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html.
[02:14] <flippermorg> warbo:ok after
[02:14] <Warbo> flippermorg: When it has done then j2re1.4 should be there somewhere
[02:14] <iceman> 2 cards my only problem ...
[02:15] <iceman> no dual head card ..
[02:15] <MTecknology> stunned, can't i get a prerelease though
[02:15] <[Chameleon] > XJ: no they aren't in Windows. Cookies are stored per user in Windows and Linux.
[02:15] <stunned> java is dead
[02:15] <XJ> So where is temp files and cookies?
[02:15] <jadaz87> stunned what is galeon better than exactly?
[02:15] <Hexidigital> jadaz87, was it !upgrade you were looking for?
[02:15] <Warbo> flippermorg: If your search is stillopen it could be there already, if not search for java
[02:15] <amphi> XJ: just root around in there - or use ff to delete them ;)
[02:15] <__mikem> stunned, I am afriad that observation is erronious
[02:15] <XJ> XJ: Yes, per user, but not per browser
[02:15] <[Chameleon] > iceman: read that doc. He's using two cards... but they are both nVidia. you may have a lot of headache using 1 nVidia and 1 ATI.
[02:15] <__mikem> for proof, take a look at any LG Cell Phone
[02:15] <jadaz87> hexidigital yeah i could not remember lol someone asked about upgrading to dapper lol
[02:15] <XJ> what is ff?
[02:15] <__mikem> or Samsung for that matter
[02:15] <amphi> XJ: w3m keeps its cookies & cache in its own directory
[02:16] <[Chameleon] > XJ: if you have IE and Firefox, they each have separate cookie stores.
[02:16] <david_> hexidigital, i know i'm being a pain lol, but the first command (You need package xxxxx installed)? it asks me for password but wont let me type anything in :S
[02:16] <[Chameleon] > XJ: you don't know jack.
[02:16] <amphi> XJ: firefox
[02:16] <bmk789> how do i configure sendmail to use smtp?
[02:16] <flippermorg> wa am i looking for
[02:16] <XJ> Fine, I don't know jack, fuckwad
[02:16] <iceman> only other choice is a nvidia and a onboard ...
[02:16] <__mikem> !language
[02:16] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[02:16] <Warbo> flippermorg: In the "Package" column there should be one called j2re1.4
[02:16] <amphi> david_: it doesn't echo when you type it
[02:16] <[Chameleon] > XJ: what are you trying to accomplish anyway?
[02:16] <Hexidigital> david_, sudo apt-get [package_name] 
[02:16] <__mikem> if you guys don't stop fighting, I will be forced to call on the ops
[02:16] <jadaz87> !patience
[02:16] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Please be aware there are a lot of questions, but only maybe few who might know the answer for you. Please be patient. Your attitude may determine their willingness to help you.
[02:16] <Hexidigital> then type password (it will appear as you aren't typing anything)
[02:16] <iceman> no foul WINDOWS language allowed here
[02:17] <XJ> looking to clean out temp files: make more space
[02:17] <[Chameleon] > __mikem: who is fighting?
[02:17] <XJ> windows has cleaner tool
[02:17] <Hexidigital> then type password (it will appear as you aren't typing anything), david_
[02:17] <XJ> friggin linux
[02:17] <XJ> I don't know why my brother bothers
[02:17] <amphi> XJ: you can do that from within firefox quite painlessly
[02:17] <XJ> amphi: oh...
[02:17] <[Chameleon] > XJ: let's take this to a private channel. I'll help you.
[02:17] <jadaz87> !tell XJ about enter
[02:17] <david_> hexidigital, can you explain please... im not completely with all this linux talk :) lol
[02:17] <amphi> XJ: just point 'n' grunt ;)
[02:17] <Warbo> flippermorg: found it?
[02:17] <__mikem> XJ, linux is for people who are familior with computers and have some idea what they are doing, windows is for the most iliterate of computer illiterates
[02:17] <XJ> I never used enter as a punctuation key
[02:17] <Hexidigital> david_ go to channel #hex
[02:17] <XJ> this works like IM
[02:18] <XJ> __mikem: I do not like what you imply
[02:18] <__mikem> if you can't get the hang of it after about 2 weeks trying, then I am afraid you must be in the later catagory
[02:18] <flippermorg> warbo:nope
[02:18] <jinho> is there a set of keys that I have to press to enable a different language when I type in?
[02:18] <Warbo> flippermorg: Hmmm....
[02:18] <XJ> I am on first day
[02:18] <jinho> for example I would like to type in Korean, so is there a keyboard shortcut for that?
[02:18] <amphi> XJ: pay no attention - the learning curve can be a bit steep at first
[02:18] <XJ> now how do I delete from in firefox?
[02:18] <iceman> XJ to truly learn linux you got to unlearn and forget windows
[02:18] <jinho> (I have installed Korean - en-utf 8)
[02:18] <dli> XJ, you type too many enters, try to write in sentences
[02:18] <Warbo> flippermorg: You in Synaptic? You've enabled Universe and Multiverse? You reloaded after? You searched for "Java"?
[02:18] <jadaz87> XJ as in please stop using the enter key like on IM because this is not IM it is irc
[02:19] <khafra> Canon Pixma printers--I have an iP1600, closest driver I can find is iP1500, written for SUSE.  Do I have a whelk's chance in a supernova?
[02:19] <flippermorg> how do i enable univ. and multi.
[02:19] <amphi> XJ: edit->prefs->privacy
[02:19] <pdavid> evening all
[02:19] <[Chameleon] > XJ: I'm trying to help you in a query window. Do you see it?
[02:19] <pdavid> anyone got any experience using k9copy by chance?
[02:19] <kingspawn> khafra: always a chance :)
[02:19] <dli> pdavid, no hi :( not evening for all
[02:19] <XJ> thank you very much
[02:19] <XJ> I will try to learn better
[02:19] <[Chameleon] > XJ: if not, you probably have to register your nickname on the server.
[02:19] <pdavid> dli: well, evening for some, morning for others!
[02:19] <Warbo> flippermorg: That was when you went into the "repositories" and put a tick in "Universe" and "Multiverse". Did you do that?
[02:19] <XJ> And stop using friggin enter
[02:20] <[Chameleon] > :)
[02:20] <khafra> kingspawn: Hehe, thanks.  I guess moral support is all I really came for, I'll have questions later :D
[02:20] <amphi> [Chameleon] : he's not 'identified to services'
[02:20] <jinho> does anyone type in a language other than english here?
[02:20] <[FaBiTo-ZzZ] > anyone who can write in spanish?
[02:20] <[Chameleon] > amphi: yeah, ok
[02:20] <jadaz87> !es
[02:20] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:20] <[Chameleon] > amphi: thx. how did you determine that?
[02:20] <dli> jinho, you can, and you be banned, I think
[02:20] <[FaBiTo-ZzZ] > ok ok ubotu
[02:20] <amphi> [Chameleon] : the magic of /whois ;)
[02:20] <__mikem> [Chameleon]  what was that guys story anyway
[02:20] <[FaBiTo-ZzZ] > :-)
[02:20] <pdavid> wondering if anyone knows how to force k3b to burn a disc that reports as 4.7GB
[02:20] <jadaz87> jinho what language do you speak?
[02:20] <jinho> dli: I'm not saying I want to do it here
[02:20] <jadaz87> pdavid that is a dvd
[02:21] <pdavid> jadaz87: yep, i know
[02:21] <flippermorg>  were in represori do i do this
[02:21] <jadaz87> pdavid dvd-r are 4.7 in size
[02:21] <jinho> I'm saying in general...cuz I cant figure out how to enable typing in Korean...although I've installed the correct fonts and language from locale
[02:21] <dli> jinho, I think xchat, chatzilla both support XIM
[02:21] <Warbo> flippermorg: You go on "Add" and the list is there
[02:21] <[Chameleon] > __mikem: frustrated n00b I guess. he's still here ya know.
[02:21] <pdavid> jadaz87: yep, and that is what i have
[02:21] <[Chameleon] > well, not now...
[02:21] <systemx> what is the best ftp client for X in linux ?
[02:21] <jadaz87> pdavid why can you now burn it?
[02:21] <pdavid> jadaz87: but k3b refuses to burn anything more than 4.3
[02:21] <[Chameleon] > systemx: I like gFTP
[02:21] <dli> systemx, I like lftp
[02:21] <jadaz87> pdavid are you serious ? i did not know what
[02:21] <pdavid> 4.3Gb (1000)
[02:21] <pdavid> 4.7GB (1024)
[02:22] <Warbo> flippermorg: The Universe and Multiverse are in brackets. These are where most of the software is
[02:22] <systemx> aight :
[02:22] <__mikem> [Chameleon]  Yes, I am aware, I didn't see any exit mesages associated with his irc session, but I was just wondering because i made a backhanded remark implicating his lack of knowlege at computers in general
[02:22] <jinho> dli: how would I enable or switch to XIM? like in windows (sorry for having to mention that dirty name) the shortcut is right-alt
[02:22] <pdavid> i had k9copy backup a disc for me, but the files it spit out are 4.7Gb
[02:22] <__mikem> I just wanted to make sure it was noone important
[02:22] <pdavid> and k4b refuses to burn it (or growisofs, whichever)
[02:22] <flippermorg> ok now that that is done im looking for wat
[02:22] <pdavid> k3b&
[02:22] <pdavid> k3b**
[02:22] <MTecknology> What's the wiki for the ubuntu repositories, and for upgrading ubuntu?
[02:22] <[Chameleon] > __mikem: never seen the guy... but I don't idle here as often as I used to.
[02:22] <amphi> __mikem: that is the common condition of windows refugees, it seems
[02:22] <jadaz87> !upgrade
[02:22] <Warbo> flippermorg: If they are added and reloaded search for "Java"
[02:22] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade.  Upgrading to dapper (remember it may break). Please test the dist-upgrader -> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html.
[02:22] <[Chameleon] > amphi: heh, yeah
[02:22] <flippermorg> yup
[02:22] <jadaz87> !repos
[02:22] <dli> jinho, install scim , and select Language in gdm before login, the easiest way (and natural way) I can think of
[02:22] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[02:23] <__mikem> amphi I gathered...
[02:23] <Warbo> flippermorg: There should be a package called j2re1.4
[02:23] <amphi> __mikem: 'cos MS stopped shipping masm I suppose ;)
[02:23] <jinho> dli: will that force me to type in one language the entire session?
[02:23] <Warbo> flippermorg: somewhere down the list (it should be a big list, if not then Universe and Multiverse are still probably not on)
[02:23] <flippermorg> ok i found j2re1.4
[02:23] <__mikem> amphi, masm can be obtained through the masm32 package by steve hutchenson
[02:23] <__mikem> just go to www.masm32.com
[02:23] <Warbo> flippermorg: OK, finally :)
[02:24] <pdavid> nobody has tried k9copy here, i guess?
[02:24] <flippermorg> now what do i do
[02:24] <amphi> __mikem: oh yeah? I thought it was long dead - I used to use tasm, and then nasm
[02:24] <Warbo> flippermorg: OK, there is a white box next to it. Click it and a menu comes up. Choose "Mark for installation"
[02:24] <__mikem> the problem is, going from windows to linux is just like going from an automatic to a stick shift
[02:24] <dli> jinho, no, scim can do en (without xim)
[02:24] <__mikem> amphi, fraid not, the masm comunity is alive and well
[02:24] <amphi> __mikem: cool
[02:24] <Warbo> flippermorg: It may come up that you have to install other things first. Say OK
[02:24] <pvd2006> whats a good program to burn audio cds with linux?
[02:24] <petemc> anyone using latest xen on breezy?
[02:25] <Warbo> flippermorg: That is the beauty of Synaptic
[02:25] <dli> __mikem, I encourage you to blame ubuntu rather than blaming yourself
[02:25] <__mikem> no linux port of masm though I am afraid
[02:25] <flippermorg> i double click on j2re1.4
[02:25] <ds[de] > how can I remove the kubuntu-desktop package? sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop just wants to remove ~36kb (i.e. the meta package himself)
[02:25] <dli> __mikem, sudo apt-get install nasm
[02:25] <__mikem> dli, Masm, not nasm
[02:25] <Warbo> flippermorg: Single click and a menu comes up. Basically when you've done it right there is an arrow on the box
[02:25] <Hackmo> hey, does anyone here use lives?
[02:25] <__mikem> we are talking about the microsoft macro assembler, not the netwide assembler
[02:26] <__mikem> Hackmo, from time to time
[02:26] <__mikem> why
[02:26] <kingspawn> __mikem: have a look at yasm if your into assembler. nice project that aims to support both intel and at&t syntax, etc
[02:26] <dli> __mikem, http://pastebin.com/662334
[02:26] <flippermorg> ok ther is a awrow over the littel whtie box beside the thing
[02:26] <dli> __mikem, sorry, wrong link, this one: http://nasm.sourceforge.net/
[02:26] <__mikem> kingspawn fraid not
[02:26] <__mikem> dli, yes I know what the netwide assembler is
[02:26] <Warbo> flippermorg: Right. That is java. Now, if you want a nice limewire-thing for the time being search for "gtk-gnutella"
[02:26] <__mikem> I use fasm on linux though
[02:27] <luisito> which sounds events do you recommend me?
[02:27] <Hackmo> __mikem: Does Lives need an ethernet camera as an input device or does it work with a USB webcam?
[02:27] <obscurite> dumb swraid question - if I remove my non-boot drive, reboot, and re-add it, my raid1 rebuilds just fine. if I remove my boot drive, the system won't boot. How can I make my raid boot off of either drive?
[02:27] <Warbo> flippermorg: Notice though that you haven't installed anything yet! You are still choosing
[02:27] <amphi> luisito: none
[02:27] <Hexidigital> does ubuntu have a backup program, or do you have to burn cd's the old-fashioned way?
[02:27] <Hexidigital> i.e. backup with restore mode?
[02:27] <dli> Hexidigital, are you talking about the hardware or the software part of backing up
[02:28] <Hexidigital> dli, software
[02:28] <__mikem> Hackmo, I don't think it matters, either way, you need to find linux drivers for either device before it will work
[02:28] <dli> Hexidigital, try rsnapshot
[02:28] <luisito> amphi, better none, right?
[02:28] <flippermorg> ok
[02:28] <Hexidigital> thanks, dli
[02:28] <pvd2006> Does Serpetine audio cd creator work ok?
[02:28] <amphi> luisito: I prefer none
[02:28] <ming> how to add a daemon and start it up when system startup ?
[02:28] <Hexidigital> dli, do you know if rsnapshot has a restore mode?
[02:28] <Hackmo> __mikem: I have drivers for my webcam and it works with all other programs I just can't seem to find a way to tell lives to use it
[02:29] <Warbo> flippermorg: When you have got an arrow by j2re1.4, and if you want gtk-gnutella as well, than select Apply and then tell it to start downloading with Apply
[02:29] <MTecknology> !easysource
[02:29] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[02:29] <dli> ming: try "update-rc.d"
[02:29] <obscurite> There didn't seem to be any way to make the other drive my primary/master drive in the BIOS, so I tried swapping the drives, but the system wouldn't boot. Both drives are part of an mdadm raid1 mirror.
[02:29] <__mikem> are they windows drivers are linux drivers
[02:29] <amphi> ming: write an init script for it
[02:29] <flippermorg> warbo:ok
[02:29] <fuji> anyone here?
[02:29] <linuxgeekery> me!
[02:29] <dli> Hexidigital, I think you can use "cp -a"
[02:29] <amphi> fuji: no
[02:29] <fuji> sorry
[02:29] <linuxgeekery> ;P
[02:29] <mwe> ming: add it to /etc/init.d/bootclean.sh or make a bootscript if it doesn't come with one
[02:29] <Hexidigital> thanks, dli, again
[02:29] <Warbo> flippermorg: Java is quite big. It should have a downloading box now for a while
[02:29] <vircuser> !easysource
[02:29] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[02:30] <naxxtor> ok - here's an odd problem
[02:30] <fuji> my xine needs a pluging to handle mrl for my browser where can i obtain it what is the package name?
[02:30] <linuxgeekery> naxxtor: please do tell :)
[02:30] <__mikem> most problems encountered when installing programs on linux are dependancy related
[02:30] <dli> fuji, do you mean plugins for firefox?
[02:30] <Warbo> flippermorg: If it's going now I was just wondering if you chose gtk-gnutella as well or not. Just asking, it doesn't matter if you did
[02:30] <Hexidigital> naxxtor is keeping everyone in suspense
[02:30] <naxxtor> for some reason a perl process is taking up 100% of my CPU.  when I kill it (killall perl) I get a dialog box that says "Warning, the password you entered is invalid"
[02:31] <fuji> yes
[02:31] <linuxgeekery> naxxtor: with sudo?
[02:31] <Hackmo> __mikem, any ideas?
[02:31] <flippermorg> warbo:i got to go sorry i will find my way some other time
[02:31] <ming> I know how to write an init script but how to let init process know my script ?
[02:31] <fuji> i want to get it using sudo
[02:31] <naxxtor> linuxgeekery, what with sudo?
[02:31] <linuxgeekery> naxxtor: are you running killall with sudo?
[02:31] <dli> ming: update-rc.d
[02:31] <flippermorg> i donno i just started with linux last week
[02:31] <__mikem> Hackmo, are they linux drivers or windows drivers
[02:31] <fuji> i dont know which package to get
[02:31] <flippermorg> ive dos all my life
[02:31] <Warbo> flippermorg: OK, but when java is in you should be able to double click ".jar" files. (Hopeflly) bye!
[02:31] <pvd2006> I have a question about linux, I know windows has problems with burning audio/movies if you try doing other stuff while its burning, is linux any different with this?
[02:31] <amphi> naxxtor: what if you kill -9 <PID> ?
[02:31] <naxxtor> linuxgeekery, i've done it with both with and without - since the process is owned by me i don't technically need sudo
[02:32] <Hackmo> __mikem, linux.  Ubuntu picks up my camera automatically
[02:32] <devnull__> how can i reinstall all of gnome desktop ?
[02:32] <naxxtor> btw when i've okay'd away the dialog it starts up again
[02:32] <linuxgeekery> naxxtor: what amphi said, plus do you know what the process is running?
[02:32] <amphi> pvd2006: you can do whatever you like, as long as you watch for buffer underruns
[02:32] <__mikem> ok, then the live cd should just do so automaticly
[02:32] <naxxtor> amphi, no i havn't
[02:32] <mwe> devnull__: why'd you do that?
[02:32] <Warbo> devnull_: Do you know how to use Synaptic?
[02:32] <naxxtor> linuxgeekery, i don't know what it's running, is there a way to find out?
[02:32] <david_> hexidigital, thanks again for your help, its sorted now :-)
[02:32] <pvd2006> amphi, I am using serpetine audio creator
[02:32] <pvd2006> I dont see a buffer listed anywhere
[02:32] <pvd2006> I have it writing at 8x
[02:32] <devnull__> mwe because all of my widgets are messed up
[02:33] <Hackmo> __mikem: i'm not using the live cd?
[02:33] <dli> pvd2006, try k3b
[02:33] <devnull__> scrollbars are missing about 5 pixels on the left side of them
[02:33] <stunned> widgets are dead
[02:33] <mwe> devnull__: you should probably just create a new profile
[02:33] <amphi> pvd2006: dunno anything about it - just give cdrecord or whatever a large buffer and you should be ok
[02:33] <__mikem> Ok, what exaclty are you trying to do
[02:33] <Warbo> devnull_: Is it just a theme or what? You might have to purge the packages to stop the same config files screwing them up again
[02:33] <devnull__> mwe where would i do that
[02:33] <stunned> or widgets should be minimized like osx
[02:33] <devnull__> Warbo, okay and how is that done
[02:33] <Hackmo> __mikem: I'm talking about lives the video manipulation software not the Ubuntu live cd
[02:33] <amphi> pvd2006: is that a FE to cdrecord?
[02:34] <mwe> devnull__: rename ~/.gnome*
[02:34] <linuxgeekery> naxxtor: try running "ps faxl | grep perl" at a command line
[02:34] <devnull__> gotcha
[02:34] <__mikem> oh, then I am afraid your on your own
[02:34] <MTecknology> if I use the sources editor in synaptic to change breezy to dapper on all of the repos, will that effectively upgrade my system?
[02:34] <pvd2006> amphi, Im not sure, I dont see anywhere where I can set a buffer for it though
[02:34] <amphi> pvd2006: if so, you can specify a buffer size with CDR_FIFOSIZE=whatever in /etc/default/cdrecord
[02:34] <devnull__> i will give it a shot
[02:34] <linuxgeekery> naxxtor: actually, use less instead of grep perl... sorry
[02:34] <adogintheocean> hey
[02:34] <naxxtor> ah haa.  0  1000 10643 10356  25   0  11752  9968 -      Rs+  pts/1      0:05  \_ perl /usr/share/setup-tool-backends/scripts/network-conf
[02:34] <dli> naxxtor, you you want to kill all perl, try "audo pkill -9 perl"
[02:34] <devnull__> i guess there is no better way than that ?
[02:35] <ming> dli: say I have '/etc/init.d/testd' which implements stop/start/restart, how update-rc.d knows about it ?
[02:35] <mwe> MTecknology: it should. be prepared for possible breakage though
[02:35] <devnull__> i spent a lot of time customizing my panels
[02:35] <amphi> pvd2006: I only use cdrecord
[02:35] <__mikem> devnull__ have you ever used freeBSD
[02:35] <naxxtor> dli - i can kill perl and it works fine, it just starts again as soon as i've dismissed the dialog
[02:35] <devnull__> mikem no
[02:35] <ubuntu_> alguem do br ?
[02:35] <mwe> ming: please read man update-rc.d it adds appropiate links
[02:35] <adogintheocean> hi am new to ubuntu and am running it alongside windows
[02:35] <amphi> !br
[02:35] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[02:36] <orbin> MTecknology: not by itself no, you have to apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:36] <dli> ming, update-rc.d testd defaults , man update-rc.d
[02:36] <naxxtor> but by the looks of things the network-setup tool is causing problems
[02:36] <__mikem> oh, I was just going to say, in freebsd you had to go through every component manually deciding which ones to install
[02:36] <obscurite> I have a stupid gnome question. Let's say I have a panel chock full of launchers and it's getting really crowded, how can i move a panel over to get more space on one side of it?
[02:36] <ubuntu_> blz
[02:36] <__mikem> on freebsd you had no choice other than to spend a long time "customizing your panels"
[02:36] <adogintheocean> and am wondering if its possible to access files from the windows partition?
[02:36] <__mikem> adogintheocean just mount the partition
[02:37] <orbin> obscurite: move a panel  by dragging it.  move launchers (icons) by right-clicking >move
[02:37] <amphi> adogintheocean: yes, ro if the windows partition is ntfs
[02:37] <adogintheocean> how am really new to this?
[02:37] <Warbo> obscurite: if you have them "expanded" to fill the edge of the screen then you can move it around the edge. If it is not expanded then you get handles to drag it anywhere
[02:37] <dli> adogintheocean, ntfs is mostly for read only
[02:37] <obscurite> orbin - hrm, dragging the panel? I'll try, though I don't see where you can grab hold of one.
[02:37] <MTecknology> mwe, orbin, my system works now, only delicates running are BUM, and ndiswrapper if I update my repos (apt-get update) and upgrade (apt-get dist-upgrade) should i be ok?
[02:37] <linuxgeekery> *brb :P
[02:37] <amphi> adogintheocean: what filesystem is the windows partition?
[02:37] <naxxtor> you know i think it might have something to do with my messing around with gprs over bluetooth
[02:38] <orbin> MTecknology: i don't know how stable dapper is atm tbh
[02:38] <mwe> MTecknology: it _should_
[02:38] <adogintheocean> ntfs
[02:38] <Kai> Could someone please help me -I have my HDD sep. into two partitions. I'm trying to re-install Windows but it wont boot from CD
[02:38] <stunned> adogintheocean: are you of green and salt like blue? (i know the tongue is involved)
[02:38] <mwe> MTecknology: don't whine if it breaks though
[02:38] <orbin> ubotu: tell adogintheocean about ntfs
[02:38] <pvd2006> amphi, do I run the cdrecord program
[02:38] <pvd2006> like this
[02:38] <naxxtor> ok - here is a picture of the dialog that appears: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v186/goldfish654/Screenshot.png
[02:38] <linuxgeekery> __mikem: It's the same with me :)
[02:38] <Warbo> Kal: Have you checked your BIOS settings?
[02:38] <boabsta> Kai, have u checked BIOS to
[02:38] <MTecknology> i won't I'll just reinstall windows and wait for dapper
[02:38] <dli> Kai, boot from CD :) that has nothing to do with linux
[02:38] <obscurite> Crap, my top panel ended up on the side and system monitor crashed hard ;)
[02:39] <orbin> adogintheocean: ntfs support is read-only.  check your pms. ubotu sent you a link
[02:39] <__mikem> ;-)
[02:39] <pvd2006> sudo cdrecord CDR_FIFOSIZE=
[02:39] <Kai> Yes. I have.
[02:39] <flippermorg> im now on my windows
[02:39] <pvd2006> ?
[02:39] <MTecknology> cuz windows is easy
[02:39] <flippermorg> xp
[02:39] <flippermorg> pro
[02:39] <adogintheocean> yah i got the link thanxs
[02:39] <__mikem> xp shmow
[02:39] <devnull__> exit
[02:39] <Warbo> Kal: Have you tried the disc recently/on another machine?
[02:39] <flippermorg> windows xp pro
[02:39] <Kai> Yes.
[02:39] <ming> dli/mwe: thanks a ton.
[02:39] <__mikem> winblows xp shmow
[02:39] <Warbo> flippermorg: hello
[02:39] <ompaul> flippermorg, don't use the enter key in the place of a comma thanks
[02:40] <amphi> pvd2006: you probably can specify the buffer size on the command line (see man cdrecord), but better put it in /etc/default/cdrecord
[02:40] <obscurite> orbin, Warbo, - if I have a bunch of launchers I want to move over all at once, can I do that? I'd hate to have to move 10 launchers one by one
[02:40] <pvd2006> nm, amphi
[02:40] <pvd2006> I found it
[02:40] <flippermorg> warbo
[02:40] <stunned> don't launch, only launch one at a time
[02:40] <flippermorg> how do i get my on chat server
[02:40] <pvd2006> hmm
[02:40] <Warbo> obscurite: Hmm. If they are the only things on the panel then move the panel :) If not I don't think you can except 1 by 1
[02:40] <pvd2006> amphi, it shows it as 4megs
[02:40] <orbin> obscurite: if there is i don't know it.  it *is* a pain isn't it?
[02:40] <mwe> flippermorg: install an ircd
[02:40] <Warbo> flippermorg: Chat server? I don't do networking :)
[02:40] <amphi> pvd2006: I have 8, which is probably overkill
[02:41] <flippermorg> www.quebecgamez.com.morg
[02:41] <Kai> The Windows disk works and BIOS is configured but it's not booting from CD. It's going straight to my paritions.
[02:41] <obscurite> orbin, it's excrutiating! In windows, the equivalent of launchers have a sub-panel that can be moved within the task bar
[02:41] <stunned> windows is filthy
[02:41] <obscurite> orbin, and I hateo to be jealous of any windows feature ;)
[02:41] <__mikem> winblows is a toy
[02:41] <ompaul> !offtopic
[02:41] <Kai> Yeah. It is. But I hate Wine.
[02:41] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[02:41] <stunned> they are control freaks
[02:41] <Warbo> Kai: Is there a "press <a key> to select boot device" or similar?
[02:41] <flippermorg> go to www.philippe-web.net
[02:41] <stunned> not free
[02:41] <__mikem> Kai, why do you hate wine
[02:41] <obscurite> stunned, I didn't mean to start a religious discussion but thanks ;)
[02:42] <stunned> proprietary will soon be deaed
[02:42] <flippermorg> all free aply and make ur self a web site
[02:42] <stunned> dead*
[02:42] <orbin> obscurite: i'm going to ask in gnome
[02:42] <Kai> Yes, Warbo.
[02:42] <obscurite> orbin - thank you kind sir!
[02:42] <orbin> #gnome i mean
[02:42] <flippermorg> its my best friend web site
[02:42] <amphi> stunned: bollocks
[02:42] <stunned> obsure: you are welcome
[02:42] <ompaul> quit with the bad language already
[02:42] <Warbo> Kai: Well that's about all of my knowledge gone.
[02:42] <flippermorg> he host with linux
[02:42] <Kai> :/
[02:42] <stunned> amphi: two upward fingers to you too
[02:42] <__mikem> Kai why do you have wine
[02:42] <Necrosan> when is the next ubuntu scheduled for RELEASE?
[02:43] <flippermorg> c ya all
[02:43] <ompaul> stunned, quit with the language .. even the hint of it
[02:43] <mikeo1> whats the command to start gnome?
[02:43] <stunned> Necrosan: in the year 2007
[02:43] <orbin> obscurite: thank me when i get an answer.  channel seems dead
[02:43] <stunned> omp: what?
[02:43] <mikeo1> got kde working with my compiz script with startkde but wondering how to get gnome to start with it insteadd
[02:43] <amphi> stunned: there are many specialiased niche areas where free sw will probably never provide an alternative
[02:43] <mikeo1> although think i might just keep kde
[02:43] <obscurite> orbin - is it possible to create a sub-panel in which you can group a bunch of items you want to move together maybe?
[02:43] <MTecknology> stupid noob question... where is sources.list
[02:43] <stunned> amp: you are lie
[02:43] <Warbo> mikeo1: gnome-session but it won't start alone (or will have bugs)
[02:43] <mikeo1> kde is sort of a memory hog though
[02:43] <naxxtor> /etc/apt
[02:43] <orbin> Necrosan: dapper is due on june 1
[02:43] <ompaul> stunned, your polite reply to amphi was not required
[02:43] <amphi> MTecknology: /etc/apt
[02:43] <Necrosan> stunned: hahaaha
[02:43] <naxxtor> MTecknology,
[02:43] <naxxtor> :p
[02:43] <Necrosan> orbin: OK
[02:43] <__mikem> to find anything in linux you can always do locate (filename)
[02:44] <mikeo1> so i should just stick to startkde then in the script?
[02:44] <stunned> Necrosan: get nekkid and rock
[02:44] <orbin> obscurite: sure. make a new panel, then disable expansion :)
[02:44] <mikeo1> cause before it was exec gnome-session and it failed
[02:44] <mikeo1> changed it to startkde and now it works
[02:44] <systemx> how can i add the 1024x768 resolution to x in ubuntu ??
[02:44] <stunned> why is kde so bloated?
[02:44] <blindx> any recommendations on a VCD burning program?
[02:44] <blindx> !tell systemx about fixres
[02:44] <__mikem> stunned, because of all the "eye candy"
[02:45] <dli> mike-ee, why not simply select kde in gdm
[02:45] <ompaul> mikeo1, sudo update-alternatives --all << set it the way you want it >> sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-`uname -r`
[02:45] <Necrosan> stunned: lamer =P
[02:45] <Warbo> systemx: Usually "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" in a terminal will do it
[02:45] <amphi> blindx: ISTR a vcdtools package
[02:45] <blindx> ISTR?
[02:45] <mikeo1> because this is for xgl and compiz
[02:45] <stunned> __mikem: what candy?  do you mean oil? or do you mean death of proprietary?
[02:45] <mikeo1> my compiz script starts compiz and xgl, then starts a window manager
[02:45] <ompaul> mikeo1, then change the "logon screen setup"
[02:45] <amphi> blindx: 'I seem to recall' - it's a long time since I messed with vcd
[02:45] <obscurite> orbin - I made a new panel, but now how do I add the panel within the top panel so it's part of it?
[02:45] <blindx> oh. rofl.
[02:45] <mikeo1> whatever it works now with kde think ill just leave it this way
[02:45] <ompaul> mikeo1, so talk about that in the channel #ubuntu+1
[02:45] <blindx> i thought istr was the name of it
[02:46] <__mikem> stunned, what do you mean death of proprietary
[02:46] <blindx> lol.
[02:46] <stunned> gawd dry spain wine is good
[02:46] <kev_> i'm using hostap for my prism2.5 wireless card. on boot it loads the module and creates eth0 and eth3 (the latter as the beacon device) but fails to get an ip via dhcp. i aliased (In /etc/modprobe.d/aliases) wlan0 to hostap_pci. if i manually remove the modules (hostap and hostap_pci), and then run modprobe wlan0 it creates eth0 and wifi0, and propery gets an ip via dhcp. any suggestions on how to tell hostap to create eth0 and wifi0 (or ev
[02:46] <kev_> en wlan0 and wifi0)?
[02:46] <amphi> blindx: heh
[02:46] <ompaul> mikeo1, dapper should not be here
[02:46] <Warbo> obscurite: Do you want to add a drawer?
[02:46] <naxxtor> now i know that the network-config script is causing trouble - how do i work out what's wrong with it?
[02:46] <blindx> I'm not big on acronyms :x
[02:46] <dli> mikeo1, does kde support xgl features?
[02:46] <stunned> __mikem: i mean by the death of the private
[02:46] <obscurite> warbo - maybe if I knew what a drawer was, I would. ;) I'll go research drawers.
[02:46] <__mikem> Not sure what you are trying to get at?
[02:46] <Warbo> obscurite: exactly. Add to panel -> Drawer.
[02:47] <amphi> blindx: install the bsdgames package and use wtf(6) - it's a handy acronym dictionary
[02:47] <blindx> amphi: ok, I've installed it...
[02:47] <ompaul> dli, mikeo1 that conversation belongs in the channel #ubuntu+1 as that is where is it supported
[02:47] <obscurite> Warbo - my quest is to add a sub-group that can be moved within my top panel all together, instead of having loose launchers and applets that i have to move one by one
[02:47] <blindx> but "vcdtools" doesn't open it..
[02:47] <blindx> any clue on the command?
[02:47] <pvd2006> well thats not good, my cd burner has a red solid light as it is burning, Im guessing that means its not burning right.
[02:47] <orbin> obscurite: you can't :)  what about making it transparent and putting it below the top panel
[02:47] <amphi> blindx: dpkg -L vcdtools to list the files it installed - you might want cdrdao too
[02:47] <Warbo> obscurite: Oh. I guess no parallel drawers inside a panel :)
[02:48] <depakote> http://www.bluehippo.com/orderNow2.asp Sweet, a computer for so cheap!
[02:48] <orbin> obscurite: nvm my last post. Warbo fixed all your troubles :)
[02:48] <amphi> blindx: /usr/share/doc/vcdtools might have useful info
[02:48] <naxxtor> my goodness why is my syslog full of these: [4296792.391000]  atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e02a <keycode>' to make it known.
[02:48] <dli> ompaul, #ubuntu+1 doesn't cover xgl :(
[02:48] <obscurite> Warbo - are you suggesting I use drawers for my collections of launchers? how about applets?
[02:48] <Warbo> orbin: Below as in literally I hope. Not in terms of stacking windows
[02:48] <orbin> dli: there's #ubuntu-xgl iirc
[02:48] <mikeo1> my kde does
[02:48] <mwe> naxxtor: full of it?
[02:49] <ompaul> dli, well there is a #xgl but it is a dapper subject so that makes it offtopic for here which is for stable releases
[02:49] <dli> naxxtor, a broken keyboard?
[02:49] <mikeo1> kde works fine with xgl
[02:49] <Warbo> obscurite: I used to have loads of drawers (back in my RedHat 9 days) which catagorised my launchers
[02:49] <mwe> naxxtor: or just when you boot
[02:49] <version_z> can anybody confirm a bug with the latest gnome-screensaver in dapper drake (flight 6) that causes the screensaver to not start?
[02:49] <blindx> ahhh, it's command line. not gui.
[02:49] <blindx> and only does mpeg files :\
[02:49] <mikeo1> the desktop switcher built into kde doesnt seem to recegnise different desktops but i dont use that anyway much
[02:49] <pvd2006> Amphi, what did you set cdrecord to for burning speed
[02:49] <naxxtor> mwe, full as in any message has hundreds of these padding them, making it impossible to read
[02:49] <mikeo1> the cube stuff and everything works fine though
[02:49] <xbox_sky> I just found out tar is a bad choice if you're gonna do backups
[02:49] <naxxtor> unless you know what you're looking for then you can grep it
[02:49] <mwe> naxxtor: ok. that's odd
[02:49] <xbox_sky> I learned the hard way, thank god for rar
[02:49] <amphi> blindx: that's what vcd needs, very lowres & bitrate too IIRC
[02:50] <obscurite> Warbo - there's something nice about having all your icons one click away though. I think gnome needs to add a sub-panel that can be moved on it's own within another panel. ;)
[02:50] <orbin> xbox_sky: what happened?
[02:50] <Warbo> xbox_sky: They get created really quick and keep permissions
[02:50] <naxxtor> mwe, it appears that if i stop hotkey-setup then it stops them happpening
[02:50] <amphi> pvd2006: I let cdrecord do as it likes WRT speed
[02:50] <dli> xbox_sky, rsnapshot is far better than tar :)
[02:50] <version_z> anybody running fully patched dapper drake and gnome-screensaver doesn't start?
[02:50] <obscurite> Warbo - it could still be a drawer, but one that shows it's contents all at once, if needed
[02:50] <mwe> naxxtor: ok. it's been broken for me as well
[02:50] <mwe> naxxtor: nothing like that though
[02:50] <pvd2006> amphi, it snot good to write a music cd at 40x though is it?
[02:50] <Warbo> obscurite: Why don't you make it then. Just a few years of computer science and you're away :)
[02:51] <amphi> blindx: you can use mencoder to get your video into the format required
[02:51] <dli> obscurite, no dapper, this channel hates dapper
[02:51] <xbox_sky> orbin I did 2 big backups (data) with tar.gz, and when i'm about to extract them, data is corrupt, for the last 2 hours i've been tryign to recover broken data, no joy
[02:51] <naxxtor> mwe, how do you stop it from being enabled when you start up?
[02:51] <mwe> naxxtor: it's probably easiest with rcconf
[02:51] <ompaul> dli, no its stable vs unstable :)
[02:51] <xbox_sky> yeah tar is quick, maybe good for small apps/deps/etc
[02:51] <Warbo> xbox_sky: You've not learned tar is bad. You've learned that unreliable media is bad
[02:51] <orbin> xbox_sky: wow
[02:51] <Warbo> :)
[02:51] <amphi> pvd2006: perhaps not; I find cdrecord's reported speed varies a lot depending on what I'm burning
[02:52] <pvd2006> amphi, Oh ok, I was making sure it wasnt going to do that
[02:52] <xbox_sky> yeah
[02:52] <pvd2006> lol
[02:52] <stunned> 15 hours 38 minutes until ubuntu on the ppc!
[02:52] <ompaul> xbox_sky, I have tared tens of gigs and moved them no problems :)
[02:52] <blindx> Hm. Where can I get a copy of the default sources.list file?
[02:52] <dli> xbox_sky, go get scsi-raid also, backup on scsi-raid
[02:52] <Davey|Laptop> stunned, I knew macs were slow but that's crazy boot time :P
[02:52] <DeMoNSeED> if you still need help, perhaps i can try, just gimme a holler
[02:52] <depakote> http://www.bluehippo.com/orderNow2.asp Sweet, a computer for so cheap!
[02:52] <amphi> Davey|Laptop: heh
[02:52] <Warbo> xbox_sky: I do use rar occasionally, but only to password protect
[02:52] <xbox_sky> ompaul good for you :/
[02:52] <xbox_sky> dli yeah but I wanted to try out tar :/
[02:52] <depakote> http://www.bluehippo.com/orderNow2.asp GNNA ANNOUNCES PARTNERSHIP WITH BLUEHIPPO
[02:53] <kev_> how does ubuntu decide what modules to load for a wireless nic and what devices to create?
[02:53] <naxxtor> mwe, cheers! :)
[02:53] <eugman> Hey I'm getting no anser in ##linux. Anyone here have an idea for something  cheap and portable I can install the console portion of a distro on?
[02:53] <orbin> ubotu: tell blindx about sources
[02:53] <amphi> kev_: hotplug I believe
[02:53] <dli> xbox_sky, if you didn't do tar.bz2, I suppose you can recover almost everything still there
[02:53] <naxxtor> now i've still got my network-setup script hogging 100% cpu time - which isn't great for a laptop i can tell you
[02:53] <orbin> blindx: not default technically..that one only has the cdrom enabled iirc
[02:53] <xbox_sky> if i've used tar.bz2 I could have used it's recovry mode, but my tar was a gzip
[02:54] <orbin> blindx: but those are the official sources.lists
[02:54] <pvd2006> I cant even use k3b, it says im using an invalid format which is mp3
[02:54] <xbox_sky> and it's recovry mode is slow/painful and doesn't work as you'd expect
[02:54] <blindx> Alright, thanks orbin
[02:54] <Warbo> I find bz2 takes much longer for little size difference (only useful for Internet)
[02:54] <mwe> naxxtor: heh. what's causing that?
[02:54] <amphi> pvd2006: you need to convert to cdda
[02:54] <xbox_sky> 2 hours later, i'm pissed (lol) tired and ........ cranky... so i'm gonna go get some sleep, and never tar my backups :D
[02:54] <naxxtor> mwe, i'm not sure
[02:54] <xbox_sky> tx for your input guys
[02:54] <next> is there such a thing as simultaneously boot rather than dual boot?
[02:55] <naxxtor> mwe, but now i've got rid of those annoying messages I might be able to pick something out
[02:55] <Warbo> next: emulate/virtualise
[02:55] <amphi> pvd2006: man cdrecord has examples for doing this sort of thing; also the cd writing howto at tldp.org
[02:55] <orbin> Warbo: me too.  i thought i read bz2 was supposed to be faster than gzip
[02:55] <dli> xbox_sky, remember to have a look at rsnapshot
[02:55] <Hexidigital> next, with software such as vmware
[02:55] <mwe> naxxtor: yeah. that helps :)
[02:55] <amphi> orbin: much slow, but better compression
[02:55] <Hexidigital> Warbo, what's virtualise?
[02:55] <amphi> orbin: *slower
[02:55] <pvd2006> im using k3b, so I figured it would be automated or something
[02:55] <Warbo> orbin: I use 7zip for tiny files and usually zip or tar gz
[02:55] <dli> orbin, no, bzip2 is for more compressiong (at the cost of speed)
[02:55] <next> hexidigital, virtual is the only way?
[02:56] <orbin> amphi, dli : ah, thanks
[02:56] <naxxtor> mwe, http://pastebin.com/662379 <-- syslog output
[02:56] <noiesmo> pvd2006, you'll what to get toolame for mp3 stuff
[02:56] <dli> Warbo, what about the speed of 7zip compared with bzip2?
[02:56] <Warbo> Hexidigital: Virtualise is like emulating, but instead of pretending to be running a software PC, you just dump all of the commands into the real PC you are on
[02:56] <Hexidigital> next, yes.... your processor can't handle operating two or more systems simultaneously
[02:56] <obscurite> This applet seems to be what I was looking for: http://quick-lounge.sourceforge.net/
[02:56] <Warbo> dli: i know. 7z is SLOW, that's why it's not my general solution
[02:57] <NickGarvey> I like 7z
[02:57] <dli> Warbo, slower than bzip2?
[02:57] <Warbo> dli: YES!
[02:57] <Hexidigital> warbo, can it run for example winxp and ubuntu simultaneous?? if so, where have i been?
[02:57] <naxxtor> mwe, it's the dialog box that comes up as soon as it perl is killed that confuses me the most.... http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v186/goldfish654/Screenshot.png
[02:57] <linuxgeekery> whoa that was weird... a error got dumped onto the chat screen
[02:57] <mwe> naxxtor: I guess the internet is not working then
[02:57] <linuxgeekery> brb
[02:58] <Warbo> Hexidigital: If you've ever heard of VMWare then that is it. Also QEMU/KQEMU which are free but slow, I couldn't get them to run XP
[02:58] <naxxtor> mwe, actually, it is.  i'm using it right now :P
[02:58] <st3v3dnd> Does anyone know if there's a program for linux similar to Broderbund's PrintShop?
[02:58] <mwe> naxxtor: the same box?
[02:58] <naxxtor> mwe, yup
[02:58] <Hexidigital> warbo, oh... i thought you were talking aobut something different than vmware
[02:58] <ompaul> naxxtor, what program is being killed?
[02:58] <jadaz87> !tell hexidigital about vmware
[02:58] <mwe> naxxtor: what's giving you that warning?
[02:58] <amphi> Warbo: qemu wirh kqemu is fast emulating x86 on x86
[02:58] <jadaz87> !vmware
[02:58] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, jadaz87
[02:58] <naxxtor> ompaul, perl process, which is running a network-setup script
[02:58] <dli> Warbo, let me do a beckmark with linux-2.6.16.5.tar.bz2
[02:58] <jadaz87> !VMware
[02:58] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, jadaz87
[02:58] <Warbo> Hexidigital: XEN seems to have a lot of hype, but it's only really in Fedora at the mo'
[02:59] <ompaul> naxxtor, it does not know enough to sudo something ?
[02:59] <Hexidigital> warbo, i gotcha...
[02:59] <naxxtor> ompaul, it's running /usr/share/setup-tool-backends/scripts/network-conf
[02:59] <naxxtor>  to be precise
[02:59] <Warbo> dli: I will give you some advice. Don't think "Wow, if I use this command I'll get the BEST compression!" It takes AGES :)
[02:59] <blindx> when running mencoder i get "This codecs.conf is too old and incompatible with this MPlayer release! at line 6" Where can I get an updated codecs.conf file ?
[03:00] <Warbo> blindx: Haven't used mplayer for a while. Are you using win32codecs?
[03:00] <naxxtor> mwe, i'm not sure what's giving me that warning but when i kill the process (not sudo'd or anything) it throws that
[03:00] <amphi> blindx: mplayerhq.hu? or you could comment out line 6 ;)
[03:00] <blindx> Warbo: couldn't tell ya.
[03:00] <Hexidigital> have a good night guys
[03:00] <naxxtor> mwe, makes me thing the something was depending on the result of the perl script for authentication or something
[03:00] <doms> how do i know my IP address
[03:00] <blindx> is that the website, amphi? I've never seen an hu domain
[03:00] <Warbo> blindx: Then you aren't you have to install it yourself and you would probably remember
[03:00] <amphi> doms: ifconfig
[03:00] <ompaul> naxxtor, whats calling it?
[03:00] <amphi> blindx: yes - hungary
[03:01] <naxxtor> ompaul, I'm not sure - is there a way to find out?
[03:01] <blindx> I see..
[03:01] <mwe> naxxtor: odd. I haven't seen that before
[03:01] <obscurite> Hrm, I just installed quick-launch-applet, but it doesn't show up in 'add to panel' - how should I proceed/
[03:01] <jadaz87> does anyone know what the: cd dir-holding-all-packages/ is on the breezy live cd?
[03:01] <Warbo> jadaz87: is it pool?
[03:01] <naxxtor> ompaul, is there a way to find the "parent" of a process?  that would be the answer to that question i think
[03:01] <amphi> blindx: that's strange you get that message though - have you been misbehaving with mplayer? ;)
[03:02] <jadaz87> WArbo i do not know that is why i am asking lol
[03:02] <amphi> naxxtor: ps, or pstree for a nice ascii process tree
[03:02] <Jowi> naxxtor: "pstree"
[03:02] <ompaul> naxxtor, there is lsof
[03:02] <dli> Warbo, which command to bechmark 7zip "time 7z foo"? any options to get more compression?
[03:02] <Warbo> jadaz87: It is /pool on the install disc, but that is the only one I downloaded
[03:02] <naxxtor> ooh i like pstree :D
[03:02] <ompaul> naxxtor, actually pstree is a better tool (I blame the fact it is 2am
[03:02] <Warbo> dli: I just read the man page and it gave examples
[03:02] <jadaz87> Warbo i am talking baout on the extracted image
[03:03] <Warbo> jadaz87: Oh, sorry, can't help
[03:03] <naxxtor> ahh haa...     modem_appletperl
[03:03] <dli> Warbo, "time bzip2 linux-2.6.16.4.tar" user: 1m45.551 , sys     0m1.100s
[03:03] <blindx> what's mencoders website? you can't just go mencoder file file. :P
[03:03] <amphi> blindx: mplayerhq.hu
[03:03] <Warbo> dli: Sorry, I don't know that command (but it has obvious meaning)
[03:03] <naxxtor> i can't believe it!  a pannel applet was my problem!
[03:03] <blindx> oh, it's the same site?
[03:03] <Warbo> blindx: mencoder is part of mplayer
[03:04] <blindx> oooohhhh
[03:04] <mwe> naxxtor: or ps axo stat,euid,ruid,tty,tpgid,sess,pgrp,ppid,pid,pcpu,comm
[03:04] <amphi> blindx: man mencoder and /usr/share/doc/mplayer
[03:04] <naxxtor> mwe, I've got it!  my panel had a modem monitor applet in it, when I don't have a modem connected
[03:04] <Warbo> blindx: man mencoder gives the whole of mplayer and mencoder, mencoder is down the bottom
[03:04] <obscurite> If I install a gnome applet package, what do I need to do next to make it available in "Add to Panel" ?
[03:04] <mwe> naxxtor: oh
[03:04] <amphi> blindx: plenty of options in there ;)
[03:05] <naxxtor> mwe, i know, dissapointingly stupid problem isn't it?
[03:05] <Warbo> obscurite: It should be there (if it was a deb or Synaptic job) but it took a while for it to show deskbar for me
[03:05] <mwe> obscurite: I don't use gnome. maybe you should try logging out and back in
[03:05] <naxxtor> ,
[03:05] <naxxtor>  s
[03:05] <mwe> naxxtor: those are always the most annoying ones. often the solution is simple but hard to find
[03:06] <naxxtor> mwe, a good exercise in finding a rouge process though :p
[03:06] <amphi> naxxtor: that was the self-resurrecting perl process?
[03:06] <errpast-hc2> where do i set file associations in firefox
[03:06] <naxxtor> amphi, correct :/
[03:06] <Warbo> mwe: The most annoying ones are dodgy connections after trying software fixes for hours :)
[03:06] <amphi> Warbo: heh
[03:07] <mwe> Warbo: heh
[03:07] <amphi> Warbo: 'it works better if you plug it in' ;)
[03:07] <dbernar1> amphi: just marginally
[03:07] <dbernar1> it's a feature
[03:07] <Warbo> amphi: They fixed a robot's walk in software once, then found out one leg was shorter than the other :)
[03:07] <blindx> Who told me to do "man mencoder" ?
[03:07] <amphi> Warbo: heheh
[03:08] <jadaz87> hello does anyone know what is the directory that has all of the deb packages on it on the extracted livecd image is?
[03:08] <systemx> *** 'pkg-config --modversion glib-2.0' returned 2.10.2, but GLIB (2.6.3)
[03:08] <systemx> *** was found!
[03:08] <blindx> six thousand, five hundred lines. holy christ.
[03:08] <amphi> blindx: you like it?
[03:08] <systemx> hmm how can i remove the old version of glib ?
[03:08] <obscurite> Warbo, mwe, thanks
[03:09] <Warbo> blindx: Told you. I have to do it regularly as well (my NEUROS442 doesn't play Google Video avis and I can never remember the options for xvid :))
[03:09] <amphi> blindx: have a look under /usr/share/doc/mplayer
[03:09] <MrRio> Is there a way I can make window focus happen on mouse release?
[03:09] <blindx> hey, I have another question while I've got some knowledgable people in here :D
[03:09] <di> hi, will usb speakers work on ubuntu?
[03:09] <blindx> I have some movies that I used to run under windows... that worked no problem. sound/movie worked.
[03:10] <orbin> jadaz87: search for *.deb ?
[03:10] <blindx> The same movies, under ubuntu, don't output sound.
[03:10] <blindx> What could be the issue there?
[03:10] <jadaz87> orbin how do i do that?
[03:10] <Warbo> blindx: What format (avi, mpeg, or even better, what codec)
[03:10] <naxxtor> blindx, you might not have the correct decompression codecs installed?
[03:10] <orbin> jadaz87: are you in ubuntu or xp?
[03:10] <amphi> blindx: what are they? you could play them with mplayer -v and see if that gives useful info
[03:10] <dli> Warbo, 7zip is half the speed
[03:10] <jadaz87> orbin ubuntu
[03:10] <di> hi, will usb speakers work on ubuntu?
[03:10] <naxxtor> blindx, specifically the audio codec
[03:10] <blindx> Well, I'm using VLC.. Doesn't that use all its own codecs?
[03:10] <Warbo> dli: That took you a while :)
[03:11] <orbin> jadaz87: where'd you extract the cd to?
[03:11] <jadaz87> orbin how whould i do that on xp? lmao
[03:11] <blindx> or does VLC just use its own VIDEO codecs?
[03:11] <Warbo> di: I don't remeber any kernel modules for something like that. So maybe no, but don't take my word for it
[03:11] <jadaz87> orbin /home/joejaxx/livecd/mnt    << it is mounted to the mnt folder
[03:11] <dli> Warbo, 1m45.551s (bzip2) vs 4m47.862s (7zip)
[03:11] <naxxtor> blindx, presumabley you can give it decoder plugins for audio too
[03:11] <orbin> jadaz87: heh, thought you might be doing this in xp b/c you're trying to get ubuntu up is all
[03:12] <Warbo> dli: As I said, I use 7zip when I NEED compression and other times gzip
[03:12] <jadaz87> blindx vlc runs anything know to man haha lol
[03:12] <blindx> jadaz87, it won't give me sound on my avi's, though.
[03:12] <amphi> blindx: try with mplayer for more messages, perhaps
[03:12] <orbin> jadaz87: sudo updatedb then locate *.deb | grep /livecd/mnt
[03:12] <dli> Warbo, 40843121 (bzip2) vs 36642605 (7zip), 7zip is 10% better
[03:12] <Warbo> blindx: Don't flame me but gstreamer0.10 in dapper is very good
[03:12] <blindx> with the -v switch, amphi?
[03:12] <blindx> Why would I flame you?
[03:12] <jadaz87> orbin nope i am customizing ubuntu for a new distro :-)
[03:12] <amphi> blindx: avi is just a container - file foo.avi might say what the streams are
[03:13] <Warbo> dli: Yes, but try it with a KNOPPIX image (I have many times, then you find out it's too big)
[03:13] <orbin> jadaz87: ok then :)
[03:13] <naxxtor> blindx, under VLC->Settings->Preferences->audio codecs there is a list of supported codecs
[03:13] <linuxgeekery> is there a way to turn off ipw2200 driver errors?
[03:13] <amphi> blindx: flame?
[03:13] <Warbo> blindx: Dunno, "no dapper", etc.
[03:13] <jadaz87> orbin it says the db is more than 8 days old
[03:13] <naxxtor> blindx, if your videos don't have a audio track in encoded with one of those vlc won't play em
[03:13] <amphi> linuxgeekery: stop them spewing to the console?
[03:13] <shinu> why cant i set the filesystem to auto in fstab for /dev/sda? when i mount it dumps an error
[03:13] <mwe> linuxgeekery: fix the issue. but maybe you mean disable the driver?
[03:13] <linuxgeekery> amphi: yup.
[03:13] <jadaz87> orbin and i cannot update either
[03:13] <Warbo> blindx: Anyway I'm stuck with this ancient Badger until I get home to my (probably broken) Dapper
[03:14] <dli> Warbo, that's the idea, no need to go a comprehensive benchmarking without analysis of the algorithms
[03:14] <jadaz87> orbin is ther a command to search without caring about the old date?
[03:14] <orbin> jadaz87: sudo updatedb doesn't work?
[03:14] <linuxgeekery> amphi: do you think that running kismet has something to do with it>
[03:14] <blindx> naxxtor: but if they didn't have an audio track, they shouldn't have played under windows, right?
[03:14] <amphi> linuxgeekery: sudo dmesg -n 1 should stop that
[03:14] <jadaz87> orbin no it does not i am chrooted inside the cd images
[03:14] <Hackmo> anyone know of a program that will record video from a webcam?
[03:14] <Warbo> shinu: Is that a symbolic ? (as in 1, 2, , etc.) or have you actually been putting a ? in your fstab?
[03:14] <naxxtor> blindx, i mean an audio track encoded in something VLC doesn't support - like AC3
[03:14] <blindx> Well that's the thing
[03:15] <blindx> I used VLC on windows.
[03:15] <linuxgeekery> amphi: thanks :) it works.
[03:15] <orbin> jadaz87: i've always used locate.  but maybe look at 'find' or try places>search for files
[03:15] <shinu> Warbo: thats like a simple question mark :P
[03:15] <Warbo> blindx: In general I find that if only one part plays it is the audio
[03:15] <shinu> Warbo: what i meant was /dev/sda1
[03:15] <amphi> linuxgeekery: kismet works for me - note that dmesg will only suppress display of the messages, not fix the problem ;)
[03:15] <mwe> blindx: maybe you are missing the codec for it. just guessing though
[03:15] <naxxtor> blindx, i think that it'll be AC3 that you're missing - since that's used for films quite a bit
[03:15] <amphi> linuxgeekery: rfmon has been in the ipw2200 driver for a while now
[03:15] <Warbo> shinu: OK, well maybe a little more info? (I run a fully USB system so I may have encountered the same problem)
[03:16] <amphi> blindx: do 'file whatever.avi' and paste the output in here
[03:16] <blindx> http://pastebin.com/662396 - what I get when I run mplayer -v foo.avi
[03:16] <linuxgeekery> amphi: everything still works fine, so I presume I can just ignore it. if I quit kismet, I can still connect to my home ntetwork.
[03:16] <blindx> file ?
[03:16] <naxxtor> has anyone tried to use transparency in their gnome splash screens in breezy?
[03:16] <shinu> Warbo: cause see, i sometimes mount my sda1 as vfat and sometimes ext3, so i just wanted to make it auto for simplicity
[03:17] <amphi> blindx: yes, file(1)
[03:17] <shinu> Warbo: /dev/sda1       /mnt/usb        auto    rw,noauto,uid=1000,users <== like this
[03:17] <mwe> blindx: why are you running mplayer as root?
[03:17] <blindx> [isoHunt]  The.Sopranos.S06E05.HDTV.XviD-LOL.avi: RIFF (little-endian) data, AVI, 624 x 352, 23.98 fps, video: XviD, audio: MPEG-1 Layer 3 (stereo, 48000 Hz)
[03:17] <Jowi> can ipv6 be disabled by putting it in the /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist ?
[03:17] <shinu> Warbo: but i get this : mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1, when i mount
[03:17] <amphi> blindx: that should play fine
[03:17] <blindx> it doesn't :\ lemme try again
[03:17] <shinu> Warbo: if i change the fs to ext3 its fine
[03:18] <Warbo> shinu: OK, do you need to use /mnt or would you be happy with /media? Basically GNOME or KDE should mount it automatically (although obviously a long time after boot)
[03:18] <linuxgeekery> ...whee! brb, rhythmbox just crashed hard :(
[03:18] <dli> shinu: reiser4 is the best for me :(
[03:18] <shinu> Warbo: im xfce4
[03:18] <shinu> dli: there were something i didnt like about reiserfs. :P
[03:18] <blindx> amphi: i get no sound.
[03:18] <shinu> dli: maybe at the next stable one :] 
[03:19] <orbin> naxxtor: depends on the .png file i assume
[03:19] <amphi> blindx: here you go: "150. ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:819:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave" & "151. alsa-init: playback open error: Device or resource busy"
[03:19] <blindx> ao_nas: init(): Can't open nas audio server -> nosound
[03:19] <blindx>   .. saw that line when i run
[03:19] <linuxgeekery> that's better
[03:19] <naxxtor> orbin, well, i've got a png file with loads of transparency and it comes out really weird
[03:19] <Warbo> shinu: Well, I'm not too experienced with it but it is quite capable so it may have an automount thingy. Do you think adding some type of GNOME automounter to it's startup would work or am I too out of touch with XFCE?
[03:19] <jadaz87> orbin did search it did not find anything
[03:19] <naxxtor> orbin, check this out: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v186/goldfish654/04b45d69.jpg
[03:20] <blindx> OH JESUS.
[03:20] <blindx> I see what the problem was.
[03:20] <blindx> I had XMMS on PAUSE and not STOPPED
[03:20] <linuxgeekery> lol
[03:20] <naxxtor> blindx, volume turned down?
[03:20] <shinu> Warbo: no idea, i might look into it and script it :P
[03:20] <linuxgeekery> :P
[03:20] <Warbo> blindx: lol
[03:20] <orbin> naxxtor: yeah, that's weird alright
[03:20] <Warbo> shinu: does a CD automount?
[03:20] <amphi> blindx: it would be ok if xmms was using dmix also
[03:20] <blindx> naxxtor: if my volume was turned down, I would have left, and you'd never see me under this name again :P
[03:20] <linuxgeekery> blindx: well... some solutions are the simple things you forget about
[03:20] <shinu> Warbo: nah, i mount all by myself
[03:20] <naxxtor> blindx, :p heh heh
[03:20] <__mikem> how do I rename a file on the command line
[03:20] <orbin> jadaz87: i don't know how the cd structure is tbh.  are there deb files even on there?
[03:20] <dli> shinu, reiser4 is not reiserfs :( reiserfs is just like another ext3, reiser4 is the next generation
[03:20] <amphi> __mikem: mv
[03:21] <__mikem> ok
[03:21] <linuxgeekery> __mikem: mv a b
[03:21] <Warbo> blindx: I was going to suggest that actually. Or Google Video (It f*ks the sound system up)
[03:21] <jadaz87> orbin well inorder to update the packages i sure hope they are
[03:21] <greenwom> can anyone fix this one?   I replaced metacity with openbox, went back to metacity and now when I reboot it takes like 10 minutes for metacity to load????
[03:21] <naxxtor> orbin, i think that whatever function is used to do transparency is reading background data from somewhere it shouldn't
[03:21] <__mikem> ok thanks
[03:21] <jadaz87> orbin $ sudo chroot mnt/ /bin/sh
[03:21] <jadaz87> # cd dir-holding-all-packages/
[03:21] <jadaz87> # dpkg -BOGiE *.deb
[03:21] <shinu> dli: oh right, sorry then. mixed them up. so hows reiserfs better than ext3?
[03:21] <mwe> greenwom: you need to supply log info
[03:22] <Warbo> dli: I use ReiserFS for my root, but I'll wait for Reiser4 to be in the kernel (I know you're going to push Reiser4 on me but I know how good it is :))
[03:22] <linuxgeekery> shinu: it works wonders with small files
[03:22] <amphi> shinu: dunno about 'better' - it's much faster
[03:22] <doms> anybody knows a Internet Cafe monitoring program i used Linux for my Server and XP for my client
[03:22] <orbin> naxxtor: *nod* dunno, sorry
[03:22] <amphi> shinu: it can also eat your data quite easily
[03:22] <blindx> I have no clue how to run mencoder, even after reading how to use mencoder -.-
[03:22] <blindx> I keep missing switches
[03:22] <naxxtor> orbin, apparently neither does ##gnome :/
[03:22] <shinu> amphi: as in make it _disappear_? :] 
[03:22] <orbin> jadaz87: surely there's some remastering ubuntu links out there?
[03:23] <shinu> linuxgeekery: could you expand on that please?
[03:23] <luisito> Dapper will come with Xgl?
[03:23] <linuxgeekery> shinu: it
[03:23] <Warbo> amphi: I thought it spread out the filesystem so it's very scalable on huge disks (or is that only Reiser4)?
[03:23] <fatehaze> Ok, here's the situation: I dual boot Ubuntu with OSX on a Powerbook, but OSX died
[03:23] <linuxgeekery> shinu: blegh, bad keyboard
[03:23] <orbin> naxxtor: are theyactive?  i asked a question and got cold silence
[03:23] <linuxgeekery> shinu: ok, here goes
[03:23] <shinu> linuxgeekery: :] 
[03:23] <amphi> shinu: yup - not that it did for me; I had an ext3 fs just vanish on me for no obvious reason ;)
[03:23] <doms> anybody knows a Internet Cafe monitoring program i used Linux for my Server and XP for my client
[03:23] <fatehaze> Ubuntu still boots fine, and I got it to mount my OSX partition, but I can't access several vital folders
[03:23] <fatehaze> It says I don't have permission
[03:23] <amphi> shinu: I once had to do rebuildtree, but it worked
[03:23] <Warbo> doms: I could only suggest VNC :)
[03:23] <amphi> shinu: I use xfs ATM
[03:23] <naxxtor> orbin, there were some people there earlier, dunno about now though
[03:24] <fatehaze> I just need to get in there and get some papers for school, how can I do this?
[03:24] <linuxgeekery> shinu: ReiserFS is great with files under about 10k in size. it's (IMO) a billion times better. reiserFS is also generally faster.
[03:24] <shinu> amphi: which one is _eating_ your data?.. reiserfs or ext3? getting a bit lost here..
[03:24] <naxxtor> is it possible to upgrade gnome at all in breezy?
[03:24] <amphi> Warbo: dunno about huge disks - reiser3 doesn't fix the number of inodes at mkfs time
[03:24] <fatehaze> In the GUI, the unreadable folders have a little red X over them
[03:24] <doms> marbo what is VNC
[03:25] <fatehaze> Not all folders, only certain ones
[03:25] <Warbo> fatehaze: Do you know how to use a terminal? Use "sudo -s -H" to be superuser and you can do anything (BE CAREFUL)
[03:25] <orbin> fatehaze: how did you mount the hfs partition?
[03:25] <amphi> shinu: mine was eaten by ext3, but many have horror stories of reiser3
[03:25] <shinu> amphi: uh... see
[03:25] <fatehaze> Warbo: I'll give that a shot
[03:25] <linuxgeekery> doms: it's a remote control protocol that allows you to control one machine from afar
[03:25] <mwe> linuxgeekery: does it keep a direct index for smale files like ufs or something?
[03:25] <naxxtor> i'm on version 2.12.1 but i've heard transparency support is a bit better in later versions?
[03:25] <mwe> small*
[03:25] <fatehaze> orbin: mount /mnt/macosx etc.
[03:25] <fatehaze> It mounted fine
[03:25] <linuxgeekery> mwe: I'm not too sure
[03:25] <Warbo> doms: Just a joke. It lets you watch/control another desktop in a window. Works on XP and Linux, but it means you would be sitting there all day!
[03:25] <fatehaze> With -t hfplus
[03:25] <fatehaze> Brb
[03:25] <linuxgeekery> Warbo: :P
[03:26] <mwe> linuxgeekery: it probably does if it's really fast for small files
[03:26] <orbin> fatehaze: depends on what you consider fine, you have to specifyuser access parameters too usually
[03:26] <shinu> linuxgeekery: might i ask you what you think about xfs then? :] 
[03:26] <gwkw> anyone know how to extract bin fileS? or what program to use?
[03:26] <linuxgeekery> doms: you could try LTSP (Linux terminal server project)
[03:26] <fatehaze> orbin: I see, so how do I mount it as a superuser?
[03:27] <amphi> shinu: works well so far, noticeably slower than reiser3
[03:27] <linuxgeekery> shinu: XFS is great. I don't use it that much, but from what little I know it's a good journaling fs
[03:27] <malv> any good gtk-based latex editors
[03:27] <dli> amphi, still try out reiser4
[03:27] <shinu> linuxgeekery: k, cheers
[03:27] <malv> i need a wysiwyg type editor
[03:27] <doms> LTSP? what i mean is like time-in and time-out in the cafe something like point of sales
[03:27] <errpast-hc2> how do I make mplayer the default player for embedded video clips in firefox?
[03:27] <shinu> amphi: how about compared to ext3? thats the only one i know atm..
[03:27] <Warbo> linuxgeekery: XFS is supposed to be good for huge files (like 10GB+), so MythTV recommends your /home being XFS
[03:27] <amphi> dli: how 'stable' is it said to be? ;)
[03:27] <gwkw> for ubuntu should we download tarball source or linux for amsn? anyone?
[03:28] <mwe> I hear xfs is risky to use if you don't have a really stable power supply
[03:28] <orbin> malv: there's one out there, not gtk+ based but just plain X iirc.  forgot waht it's called though :P
[03:28] <linuxgeekery> shinu: one more thing. If you want to comare the fs, go look on wikipedia. good articles there
[03:28] <linuxgeekery> *compare
[03:28] <shinu> linuxgeekery: ok
[03:28] <orbin> fatehaze: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountPartitions?action=show&redirect=AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[03:28] <dli> amphi, very stable filesystem, but not in stable kernel
[03:28] <errpast-hc2> edit>prefs>downloads?plugins lists plug ins but doesn't let me change anything
[03:28] <shinu> i think ill stick with ext3 for now though :/
[03:29] <dli> amphi, more stable than ext3, reiserfs, jfs, much more robust with crashing on write
[03:29] <orbin> fatehaze: see the "Editing Ubuntu's filesystem table" section
[03:29] <malv> i know there is kile, but bleh
[03:29] <Warbo> errpast-hc2: there is an mplayer firefox plugin package (I think it's in Ubuntu) if you know how to use Synaptic
[03:29] <amphi> shinu: ext3 is fine; xfs seems good, it's real strength is for huge files
[03:29] <orbin> fatehaze: the page is windows' oriented, but it has hfs info
[03:29] <shinu> i see
[03:29] <dli> amphi, I'm have moved all my boxes here to jfs /boot with reiser4 / /home
[03:29] <blindx> I'm having trouble using mpg to convert a file from avi?
[03:29] <mwe> I thought xfs strength was with gazillions of small files
[03:30] <Warbo> amphi: ReiserFS supposedly good for small files so I use it on /, but I only trust (or do I?) ext3 with my personal files
[03:30] <blindx> Even when running mencoder, it still says "output is _AVI_"
[03:30] <greenwom> can anyone fix this one?   I replaced metacity with openbox, went back to metacity and now when I reboot it takes like 10 minutes for metacity to load????  what log do I need to look at
[03:30] <mwe> because it uses heavy caching
[03:30] <amphi> shinu: I could never get reiser to allow the hd to spin down for more than 1 or 2 minutes, with xfs it'll spin down for 10 minutes at a time with a bit of /proc tweaking
[03:30] <linuxgeekery> mwe: turns out that reiserfs is b-tree base
[03:30] <dli> amphi, reiser4 also saves space, because small files (smaller than a cluster, or 4 kb) are packed now
[03:30] <linuxgeekery> based*
[03:30] <mwe> linuxgeekery: yes
[03:30] <orbin> malv: lyx!
[03:31] <gwkw> i just found out that sudo apt-get install * can pretty much install everything fromt he net.. is that true?
[03:31] <blindx> command I'm running: blind@bl4ckh0le:~/Desktop$ mencoder \[isoHunt\] \ The.Sopranos.S06E05.HDTV.XviD-L OL.avi -ovc lavc -oac copy -o S06E05.mpg
[03:31] <amphi> dli: how is jfs? thanks for the r4 info
[03:31] <shinu> amphi: sorry, by 'spin down' you mean?..
[03:31] <dli> amphi, reiser4 is atomic, so, I never saw fsck from crashes
[03:31] <mwe> linuxgeekery: it could still use direct indexing for small files
[03:31] <Warbo> gwkw: There is loads of conflicting stuff (like telnet)
[03:31] <amphi> shinu: stop rotating ;)
[03:31] <blindx> and a few lines down, is this "WARNING: OUTPUT FILE FORMAT IS _AVI_. see -of help.
[03:31] <blindx> "
[03:31] <malv> orbin, thanks! I will check it out
[03:32] <gwkw> warbo: so which would be a more stable way?
[03:32] <amphi> blindx: that command line is not doing what you think it is ;)
[03:32] <jetscreamer> blindx: what are you trying to do
[03:32] <dli> amphi, very stable, lowest cpu load, the partition can grow at remount, no 5% reserved, since everything is dynamic
[03:32] <shinu> amphi: so with your statement, xfs is worse?
[03:32] <jetscreamer> make an mpg?
[03:32] <jetscreamer> sfx or reiser you need a UPS
[03:32] <jetscreamer> err xfs
[03:32] <Warbo> gwkw: What is it you want to do? That is the main question. Installing stuff just because you can is stupid in Linux 'cause there's so much available
[03:32] <amphi> shinu: huh? no, I want the disk to spin down for 10 minutes at a time when running on battery
[03:32] <cyphase> if 172.16.1.0/24 represents 172.16.1.*, what represents 172.16.*.* ?
[03:33] <amphi> jetscreamer: laptop ;)
[03:33] <dli> shinu, xfs, reiserfs could be disasters with crashes
[03:33] <shinu> amphi: ohoh, i get what you mean now :] 
[03:33] <Warbo> dli: I heard about growing XFS while it is on. Aparently not as good as Amiga RAM though :)
[03:33] <dli> amphi, jfs is fast with fsck at crashes, (very fast journal replay)
[03:33] <gwkw> warbo: lol.. ok.. heeh.. cause gaim is not working (cant read msg from other), so i wanna try reinstall or get another program for msn
[03:33] <amphi> dli: I think the xfs problem you refer to has been fixed
[03:33] <shinu> dli: yeah, i heard about that in reiserfs, and that kinda scared me :/
[03:34] <fatehaze> Ok, I can view all my osx partition in terminal, how do I mount it so that I'm a superuser in the GUI?
[03:34] <dli> shinu, #debian channel warns against using reiserfs :)
[03:34] <Warbo> gwkw: from command line just use "sudo apt-get install --reinstall gaim" or similar
[03:34] <fatehaze> I'm not as familiar with the terminal, I just need to copy (and open) some files
[03:34] <jetscreamer> the ext3 isn't really on purpose though
[03:35] <dli> amphi, basically, I have no reason against jfs, but reiser4 is the next generation
[03:35] <shinu> dli: haha
[03:35] <Warbo> fatehaze: You do NOT want to be superuser in a GUI! It can overwrite your config files with ones that you don't have permission to access later (I did that once, worst on KDE)
[03:35] <amphi> dli: yeah, I read some propaganda on its site a while back, it sounded good
[03:35] <doms> i dont know what i'am going to do, what i nid is "Internet Cafe Manager" means you can control the client pc which running in XP, and my server is linux, i'am asking for a Internet Cafe Manager Software for my linux server that can handle all my clients, such us Time-In and Time-Out, automatic computer per minute, etc.
[03:35] <fatehaze> I know that much, but I'm competent enough to stay away from all that
[03:36] <cyphase> nvm, got it..
[03:36] <cyphase> 172.16.0.0/16
[03:36] <orbin> fatehaze: just edit fstab via the link i gave you and remount it
[03:36] <Warbo> fatehaze: Use "cd" to navigate (once superuser) and use "cp file /where/you/want/it" then "chown yourusername copiedfile" to make you own it. Then Ctrl-D to exit being superuser
[03:36] <fatehaze> orbin: k, I'll give that a shot :)
[03:36] <dli> amphi, I have been using reiser4 for months, very stable, it does save disk space
[03:37] <amphi> dli: good to hear, you tempt me ;)
[03:37] <orbin> fatehaze: at least that way when you mount it in future, it'll be set up for you
[03:37] <gwkw> warbo: is it 'sudo apt-get reinstall gaim ?cause this wont work
[03:37] <Warbo> dli: New 250GB HD. Save disk space? :)
[03:37] <fatehaze> Warbo: I have a ton of documents sorted in a ton of folders, so doing it the console way is just a little too much typing for me
[03:37] <amphi> fatehaze: mc
[03:38] <dli> Warbo, ten year ago, people said things like, "4GB", no need to save space
[03:38] <Warbo> gwkw: No. Use the "install" bit like normal but "--reinstall" should make it reinstall. I'll just check the man page
[03:38] <mwe> fatehaze: or gksudo nautilus
[03:38] <Warbo> dli: No one will need more than 64K of memory
[03:38] <Warbo> dli: And the world may need 16 computers :)
[03:38] <mwe> fatehaze: make sure you don't stay in it aftwards though
[03:38] <dli> Warbo, if you are a n00b, don't use reiser4, because you have to get hand wet, since it's not in stable kernel
[03:38] <amphi> "the number of unix installations has grown to 10" ;)
[03:39] <fatehaze> mwe: gksudo nautilus?  nautilus is a file manager, right?
[03:39] <gwkw> warbo: thanks :)
[03:39] <mwe> fatehaze: yeah
[03:39] <di> hi
[03:39] <mwe> fatehaze: wasn't that what you wanted
[03:39] <di> do usb speakers work in ubuntu?
[03:39] <mwe> fatehaze: moving files to restricted dirs?
[03:39] <dli> amphi, now, I'm slowly bringing all my boxes to reiser4 only, (of course, a small jfs /boot is needed)
[03:39] <fatehaze> mwe: sorta the opposite
[03:39] <Warbo> gwkw: it is "--reinstall"
[03:39] <EinZteiN> dli, what are the "real" advantages of reiser vs ext3 ?? :|
[03:40] <sneex> is there such a thing as a TWAIN Scanner library/app -- to drive a Mustek 1200 UB Plus (a USB 1 14" flatbed scanner) ???
[03:40] <fatehaze> mwe: the files are restricted because they're on my osx partition
[03:40] <gwkw> warbo: nah.. its not
[03:40] <mwe> fatehaze: yes
[03:40] <dli> kingspawn, not reiserfs, but reiser4
[03:40] <amphi> dli: no grub support yet?
[03:40] <Warbo> gwkw: Oh. Well don't listen then :)
[03:40] <mwe> fatehaze: cant you mount it differently to get user access?
[03:40] <fernando_> hola
[03:40] <EinZteiN> dli, yaeh... reiser4... what r the real advantages vs ext3??
[03:40] <fatehaze> mwe: I'm trying to back them up, since OSX won't boot... but it won't let me access certain folders
[03:40] <EinZteiN> fernando_, hey... .es?
[03:40] <orbin> mwe: that's what i've been telling him to do.  you peopl are giving him temporary solutions
[03:40] <gwkw> warbo: i am confused...
[03:40] <fatehaze> mwe: I can sudo as superuser and get into the directories in the console
[03:41] <EinZteiN> lol
[03:41] <Arclite> How can I find what process is responding to a call on port 80? Apache isn't running, but yet my machine is still hosting pages over http.
[03:41] <Warbo> sneex: There is something out there with a stupis WINE/GNU-like name which ends with "Ain't Twain" but I forgot the beginning
[03:41] <mwe> fatehaze: just mount it properly
[03:41] <sneex> lsof
[03:41] <fatehaze> mwe: how so?
[03:41] <gwkw> warbo: so you are trying to say that type 'sudo apt-get --reinstall gaim'
[03:41] <gwkw> ?
[03:41] <dli> kingspawn, 1, stability, no more fsck after crashes, 2. saves space, 3. speed
[03:41] <sneex> Warbo, if its a "wine" thing then I cant use it -- Im a PPC Ubuntu system.  LOL
[03:41] <mwe> fatehaze: umask=0222 under options I think
[03:42] <fatehaze> mwe: under options... eh?
[03:42] <EinZteiN> dli, do u mean that to me?? :p
[03:42] <fatehaze> mwe: you overestimate my experience
[03:42] <EinZteiN> u keep saying it to kingspawn
[03:42] <EinZteiN> :p
[03:42] <mwe> fatehaze: in fstab. sudo nano /etc/fstab
[03:42] <sneex> Arclite, try using su - -c "lsof |grep -i http"
[03:42] <fatehaze> mwe: ah, thanks
[03:42] <gwkw> warbo: sorry cause i am completely new to this :(
[03:42] <Warbo> fatehaze: OK. You want to access files on a partition which only superuser can get to? In terminal, "sudo -s -H" then "cd /wherever/it/is/mounted" then "cp wanted/files /home/username" finally "chown username /home/username/wantedfiles" then ctrl-d
[03:42] <mwe> fatehaze: third column
[03:42] <amphi> dli: Hans, is that you? ;)
[03:42] <dli> amphi, no, I'm Chinese :)
[03:43] <mwe> fatehaze: err 4th
[03:43] <amphi> dli: ah ;)
[03:43] <Warbo> gwkw: You're completely new? System -> Administration -> Synaptic Package Manager
[03:43] <gwkw> warbo: ok.. then? thanks for being patience..
[03:43] <fatehaze> Warbo: thanks, I've gotten that far, but I'm hoping to do it through the GUI
[03:43] <doms> i dont know what i'am going to do, what i nid is "Internet Cafe Manager" means you can control the client pc which running in XP, and my server is linux, i'am asking for a Internet Cafe Manager Software for my linux server that can handle all my clients, such us Time-In and Time-Out, automatic computer per minute, etc.
[03:44] <Warbo> gwkw: By looking for the gaim package and reinstalling it it may fix your problem (I assume that's what you're trying to do?)
[03:44] <amphi> doms: try searching at freshmeat.net perhaps
[03:44] <gwkw> ya.. completely new to ubuntu/ linux.. and i am trying to get out from window..
[03:44] <fatehaze> Warbo: hard to explain why, but I have a TON of files and I need certain ones, I'd like to browse around and open things to look at them, etc... know what I mean?
[03:44] <Warbo> gwkw: And if not then "Completely remove" then install will regenerate knackered config files
[03:44] <gwkw> warbo: ya.. trying to restall it..
[03:44] <sneex> Warbo, I think I have found a new search path, Thx http://cayfer.bilkent.edu.tr/~cayfer/inst_scanner/scanner.html
[03:45] <Warbo> fatehaze: OK, I was thinking just a few essential files and you could sort OSX out later
[03:45] <RabidDog_> woot
[03:45] <RabidDog_> OMG ROTFLMAO FOREVER, http://www.firefoxflicks.com/flick/index.php?id=19542&c=false
[03:45] <Warbo> fatehaze: I suppose you could use gksudo nautilus
[03:45] <mwe> fatehaze: did you figure out how to mount it properly?
[03:45] <di> do usb speakers work in ubuntu?
[03:46] <Warbo> fatehaze: Mounting it right should fix it though. Try using the "users" option
[03:46] <mwe> fatehaze: 4th column in /etc/fstab, add umask=0222 and remount
[03:46] <fatehaze> mwe: I don't see the partition listed in fstab
[03:46] <mwe> fatehaze: then add it
[03:46] <mwe> fatehaze: what's the name?
[03:46] <Warbo> gwkw: You OK, or need some more help?
[03:46] <fatehaze> mwe: it's hda3
[03:47] <fatehaze> Looks like gksudo nautilus worked
[03:47] <Warbo> fatehaze: Yeah that's a b*tch. The gnome-volume-manager thing doesn't let you access your mounts (like my media player) so you need to add it permanently (until you remove it) in fstab
[03:48] <fatehaze> That's all I need, thanks mwe and Warbo :D
[03:48] <mwe> fatehaze: sudo mkdir /mnt/hda3 then sudo nano /etc/fstab add /dev/hda3 /mnt/hda3 hpfs users,umask=0222 0 0
[03:48] <Hackmo> hey
[03:48] <Hackmo> anyone here using dapper?
[03:48] <intelikey> DeMoNSeEd hehhe that didn't help anything.    http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d12367
[03:48] <mwe> fatehaze: I think
[03:48] <amphi> !dapper
[03:48] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[03:48] <Warbo> Hackmo: Normally, but I'm not on my own PC
[03:48] <di> do usb speakers work in ubuntu?
[03:49] <intelikey> anyone have any sujestions on    http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d12367  ?
[03:49] <mwe> di: probably.
[03:49] <gwkw> warbo: yup.. gaim is working now.. but can we display pictures and stuffs like msn?
[03:50] <di> umm
[03:50] <gwkw> Warbo: thanks !!:)
[03:50] <Warbo> di: Doesn't look like anyone here knows. It seems more like a kernel/linux question. Try somewhere else and maybe come back here if it's an Ubuntu specific problem (like "is driver xyz in restricted-modules) No offence, though.
[03:50] <amphi> di: as no one seems to know, and that is a kernel issue, a google for 'linux' and 'usb speaker' might turn up useful info
[03:50] <linuxgeekery> !cn
[03:50] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, linuxgeekery
[03:50] <Warbo> gwkw: My MSN buddies have pictures displayed by their names. Is that what you mean?
[03:50] <amphi> linuxgeekery: ?
[03:50] <di> ok... is "usb audio" support enabled in the stock ubuntu kernel?
[03:50] <linuxgeekery> amphi: is there a chinese channel?
[03:51] <fatehaze> Hmm, actually, nautilus isn't letting me copy files
[03:51] <intelikey> it looks to me like i can't install or remove mozilla-browser without hacking the /var/lib/dpkg/info  scripts on it.
[03:51] <amphi> linuxgeekery: no idea, I'm afraid
[03:51] <linuxgeekery> :(
[03:51] <Warbo> di: :) very clever, but I don't know! lol
[03:51] <gwkw> warbo: yup.. thats right.. i think i need to further elaborate my point.. sorry
[03:51] <fatehaze> It gives me the "error thunk" when I try to drag files to my desktop
[03:51] <dli> linuxgeekery, I think ubuntu has a chinese site
[03:51] <void^> !zh
[03:51] <ubotu> For support in Chinese, please try the channel #ubuntu-zh.
[03:51] <linuxgeekery> oh!
[03:51] <linuxgeekery> :P
[03:51] <linuxgeekery> thanks, now I can tell my friend :)
[03:51] <di> lol... who compiled the kernel?
[03:51] <Warbo> di:
[03:52] <Warbo> oops!
[03:52] <Warbo> di: I don't know, but you COULD compile your own
[03:52] <kingspawn> dli: have we been talking about filesystems? hm.. :)
[03:52] <Warbo> di: Everything that's not there is usually a module though
[03:52] <amphi> di: find out what module[s]  you need and try modprobing them; install kernels are pretty 'kitchen-sinky'
[03:52] <dli> kingspawn, no so sure :(
[03:52] <kingspawn> dli: just saw you were talking to me up there..
[03:52] <kingspawn> heh
[03:53] <di> ok
[03:53] <dli> kingspawn, I heard the comment was sent to the wrong nick, lucky you :(
[03:53] <fatehaze> gksudo nautilus doesn't let me copy?
[03:53] <screamz> is there a free ativirus I can install in ubuntu to scan my windows disks?
[03:53] <di> how do i use modprobe?
[03:54] <linuxgeekery> di: modprobe module_name
[03:54] <intelikey> DeMoNSeEd http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d12368
[03:54] <NickGarvey> !modprobe
[03:54] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, NickGarvey
[03:54] <linuxgeekery> lol
[03:54] <NickGarvey> or not..
[03:54] <di> modprobe snd-usb-audio doesnt give any messages
[03:54] <amphi> di: prepend sudo to avoid delay and disappointment ;)
[03:54] <Warbo> di: I use dapper on my main system and I've got away with loads of updates without updating my kernel (and Dapper is ALWAYS being updated). You see, I boot from a CD so I don't want to rewrite my boot disc for every update. The moral of the story is: The ubuntu kernels are fine for most things, you just have to insert the right modules :)
[03:54] <Warbo> di: "sudo modprobe name-of-module"
[03:54] <di> i did that"
[03:54] <di> sudo modprobe snd-usb-audio
[03:55] <linuxgeekery> !ubotu help
[03:55] <kingspawn> dli: no problem, got me interested in reiser4 :)
[03:55] <Warbo> di: If you look in /lib/modules/your-kernel and you can find all of the modules you have
[03:55] <fatehaze> Why doesn't "gksudo nautilus" let me copy files from my osx partition?
[03:55] <doms> can i use something like a MS access for Gambas Programming?
[03:55] <intelikey> DeMoNSeEd nice huh ?
[03:55] <linuxgeekery> how do you add a fact to uboutu's list
[03:55] <Warbo> fatehaze: Try using the "sudo -s -H" thingy then typing "nautilus --no-desktop" (so it doesn't redraw your desktop!)
[03:56] <dli> kingspawn, if you know how to build your kernel, try it out :)
[03:56] <fatehaze> Warbo: k
[03:56] <di> yea
[03:56] <di> its there..
[03:56] <intelikey> DeMoNSeEd because you didn't read all of the first pastebin
[03:56] <gandalf> why is epiphany still depending on firefox when there is xulrunner?
[03:56] <DeMoNSeEd> true, i admit i didn't....guilty there, my apologies
[03:57] <intelikey> DeMoNSeEd :)
[03:57] <doms> can i use something like a MS access for Gambas Programming?
[03:57] <intelikey>  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d12367
[03:57] <Warbo> gandalf: Related, but not an answer: Does removing firefox in favour of Epiphany remove the ubuntu-desktop and other meta-packages?
[03:57] <fatehaze> Warbo: still no dice
[03:57] <jstad> anyone know a good guide to get Linux fonts to look like Windows 96dpi fonts (not just the fontpack) ?
[03:57] <intelikey> DeMoNSeEd not the last line  ^
[03:57] <intelikey> not/note/
[03:58] <sneex> exit
[03:58] <sneex> lol
[03:58] <sneex> grrrr
[03:58] <Warbo> fatehaze: You have a root nautilus and you have permission denied???
[03:58] <sneex> later peeps
[03:58] <Dhunter> noob question. has anyone here tried to get the ivtv Hauppage PVR 350 drivers working under ubuntu?
[03:58] <fatehaze> Warbo: I get no permission denied - just a thunk sound
[03:58] <DeMoNSeEd> k i see
[03:58] <fatehaze> Warbo: I can even check all the file permission boxes
[03:59] <amphi> jstad: you can set the dpi in /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc
[03:59] <linuxgeekery> !modprobe
[03:59] <ubotu> it has been said that modprobe is a way to load modules. modprobe modulename
[03:59] <Warbo> fatehaze: OK, may ruin your stuff but do you think a "chmod 777 * -R" would fix it? This lets any user do anythinmg to any file (don't do it unless you have to, it will ruin OSX permissions and you'll have to redo them)
[03:59] <linuxgeekery> yay! it works now
[03:59] <doms> can i use something like a MS access for Gambas Programming?
[03:59] <DeMoNSeEd> i'll have to give way to wiser and more experienced folk here to help you, i'd love to say i have the solution, but i'm not totally sure...............sorry
[03:59] <fatehaze> Warbo: Can I try that on a single file and see if it works?
[04:00] <linuxgeekery> DeMoNSeEd: what was the problem? I haven't been paying attention ;P
[04:00] <intelikey>  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d12367
[04:00] <Warbo> fatehaze: The * tells it to do everything and the -R tells it to go through directories
[04:00] <intelikey> linuxgeekery ^
[04:00] <DeMoNSeEd> tell him interlikey
[04:00] <linuxgeekery> intelikey: I'll take a look
[04:00] <Warbo> fatehaze: so "chmod 777 fileordirectory" should do only 1 file
[04:00] <fatehaze> Warbo: I'll give it a shot
[04:00] <amphi> fatehaze: what are you trying to do? I'm not sure linux has write-support for OSX filesystems
[04:01] <intelikey> linuxgeekery hoary,,,, when you ask :)
[04:01] <blindx> Dammit :@
[04:01] <blindx> Even when I use mencoder to "convert" a file, the filetype is still avi
[04:01] <Warbo> fatehaze: The "execute" permission on a directory really means "allowed to go inside" if that's any help
[04:01] <blindx> What am I doing wrong?
[04:01] <dli> blindx, avi is a container format :)
[04:01] <blindx> I have no clue what that means
[04:01] <di> thanks!
[04:02] <Dhunter> hey folks when when I try to get synaptic to look to look at the ivtv repository, I get this;
[04:02] <Dhunter> W: GPG error: http://www.hellion.org.uk sid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 334FB4A92F6BCD59
[04:02] <linuxgeekery> intelikey: it's about mozilla-browser, right?
[04:02] <intelikey> right.
[04:02] <linuxgeekery> intelikey: ok.
[04:02] <Warbo> blindx: I regularly use something like "mencoder -oac mp3lame -ovc xvid -lameopts....... -xvidencopts....... -o outputasanxvid.avi inputfile.something"
[04:02] <amphi> blindx: you need to specify the output file format -  -of mpeg perhaps, I forget
[04:02] <errpast-hc2> how can I tell what type of media file is embedded in a page?
[04:02] <errpast-hc2> e.g. wm, real, etc.
[04:03] <intelikey> linuxgeekery it won't install or remove   without i hack the scripts in /var/lib/dpkg/info
[04:03] <Warbo> Dhunter: Unless you are security paranoid it's no problem
[04:03] <linuxgeekery> intelikey: hmm...  I gotta think about this one :)
[04:03] <amphi> blindx: yeah, -of mpeg it is
[04:03] <dli> Warbo, can I use mencoder to get something comparable to .rmvb, concerning compression and video quality
[04:04] <blindx> Oh geez.
[04:04] <blindx> Thanks
[04:04] <amphi> blindx: vcd is mpeg2?
[04:04] <Warbo> dli: Erm. Do you think because of 7zip comments I am an expert in filetypes or compression? Sorry but I'm not! I don't even know what .rmvb means :)
[04:04] <Dhunter> but then when I try to tell it to get anything from the "hellion" repostory, I get this; ivtv0.6-utils:
[04:04] <Dhunter>  Depends: libvideo-ivtv-perl  but it is not installable
[04:04] <linuxgeekery> intelikey: just a hunch. try calling apt-get directly, not throught urpmi/e
[04:05] <Warbo> Dhunter: OK. They are different problems.
[04:05] <intelikey> linuxgeekery same exact thing.
[04:05] <dli> Warbo, rmvb is realvideo
[04:05] <Warbo> Dhunter: GPG KEY just means the packages can't be verified that they are from a reliable source.
[04:05] <linuxgeekery> intelikey: in gentoo linux (what I used to use), the package management system would fsck up when called from some scripts
[04:06] <Warbo> Dhunter: The Depends problem is just because someone has made a package or repository badly :)
[04:06] <Dhunter> but I am getting multiple errors when I try to get any of the ivtv code, of any version ".2, .3. .4  .6"
[04:06] <intelikey> linuxgeekery if it failed on any other package i might tend to agree.   but that is the only one and i tested without the scripts....
[04:06] <Warbo> Dhunter: Either libvideo-ivtv-perl hasn't been put in the repository, or the ivtv0.6-utils package is looking for it but it doesn't exist
[04:07] <fatehaze> Warbo: nope, none of that worked :(
[04:07] <Dhunter> course it maybe it's due to the ivtv people being wankers.
[04:07] <Warbo> dli: I hate realvideo :)
[04:07] <fatehaze> amphi: I'm trying to copy files from my osx partition to my ubuntu partition
[04:07] <linuxgeekery> intelikey: oh!
[04:07] <Warbo> Dhunter: I think I know the solution
[04:07] <stunned> i didn't know elfs could be gay
[04:07] <fatehaze> amphi: can you not do that?  it gives me no error when I try to copy (even in terminal - no output) but then the file just isn't there
[04:07] <Dhunter> Warbo, great, lets hear it please.
[04:08] <amphi> fatehaze: that's strange indeed
[04:08] <dli> Warbo, I usually use "-ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg4", compression is worse than rmvb, but quality is good
[04:08] <amphi> fatehaze: ls shows you the files in the mount point?
[04:08] <Warbo> Dhunter: Because the repository thinks you are using unstable debian (sid) then the package may be in there, that's why it assumes you have access to it. You could try adding a debian sid mirror to your repositories, but get rid of it before doing an upgrade or dist-upgrade!
[04:08] <fatehaze> amphi: yes, and when I first mounted, some of the folders had little red X's indicating that they were "unreadable"
[04:09] <linuxgeekery> intelikey: sorry, I can't really think of anything :(
[04:09] <fatehaze> amphi: I can open them with "gksudo nautilus", and I can open them, but I can't copy them
[04:09] <Dhunter> Warbo, thanks, so I should change a setting in Synaptic?
[04:09] <intelikey> linuxgeekery i didn't really expect you too.  thanks for the time of day though.
[04:09] <amphi> fatehaze: that's very wierd IMHO
[04:09] <Warbo> dli: I like lavc, but I generally leave files how they are. I use mencoder to convert things for my NEUROS 442 media player though, and I've found XVid always works
[04:09] <amphi> fatehaze: but I don't know much about OSX
[04:09] <fatehaze> Also, is there any way to open Pages files in Ubuntu?
[04:09] <spoon> how do we uninstall software we installed with apt-get?
[04:09] <fatehaze> I could just open the files and save them as new files... if I could open them
[04:09] <linuxgeekery> fatehaze: I don't think so (yet
[04:10] <linuxgeekery> !apt-get
[04:10] <ubotu> from memory, apt-get is http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/apt-howto.en.txt (in depth) and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto
[04:10] <amphi> Warbo: yeah, xvid seems to give better compression for the same quality in my experience
[04:10] <fatehaze> Then I'm screwed... :(
[04:10] <Warbo> Dhunter: Well if you find a Debian mirror (from Debian.org) and add it to your repositories in Synaptic (settings > Repositories > add > Custom) then that might fix it
[04:10] <dli> Warbo, can windows users play the video from lavc mpeg4 ?
[04:10] <linuxgeekery> fatehaze: what are the permissions on the folders you can't read?
[04:10] <amphi> dli: not that I've seen (nor macs)
[04:11] <doms> were i can download a openoffice sample docs or sample sample files.
[04:11] <Warbo> Dhunter: I would be more specific and find a mirror for you but I'm in about 50 discussions ATM :)
[04:11] <amphi> dli: with the standard players
[04:11] <dli> amphi, how to make it compatible then? to share with windows users using mencoder
[04:12] <amphi> dli: mpeg1 (or perhaps 2, but I think not)
[04:12] <fatehaze> linuxgeekery: I can open the folders with gksudo nautilus, but even when I set the permissions to 777 it won't let me copy
[04:12] <dli> doms, OOo opens most microsoft office files
[04:12] <amphi> dli: just don't share with 'em ;) or let 'em install mplayer
[04:12] <Warbo> dli: I honestly don't know. That's why I keep thinngs in their native format on my PC. If I can play them I'm happy. On my NEUROS they need to be XVid or I can't play them. That simple. (Well, it plays/records MPEG4 ASF, and it can play DivX but I can't find the right options :))
[04:13] <intelikey> so any old debian hands in here ?    http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d12368
[04:13] <Dhunter> Warbo, Thank you, what you've already passed on is about 1,000% better then what I've gotten from the ivtv wankers.
[04:13] <linuxgeekery> fatehaze: hmm
[04:13] <linuxgeekery> fatehaze: wait... these are on the OS X partition, right?
[04:13] <Warbo> intelikey: I've used Debian (but I broke it and installed Ubuntu )
[04:14] <fatehaze> linuxgeekery: yup
[04:14] <amphi> intelikey: there's a stale lock file (or there's another prog with the pacage database open)
[04:14] <fatehaze> linuxgeekery: OSX won't boot so I'm trying to recover my files with ubuntu
[04:14] <intelikey> dpkg  ERROR   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d12367   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d12368
[04:14] <spoon> !dmesg
[04:14] <ubotu> spoon: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:14] <intelikey> amphi nope that's not it.
[04:14] <amphi> intelikey: the file is /var/cache/apt/archives/lock
[04:15] <linuxgeekery> fatehaze: try going from the command line
[04:15] <intelikey> amphi that's not it.
[04:15] <amphi> intelikey: no? nor /var/lib/dpkg/lock ?
[04:15] <intelikey> amphi i've removed that file and tried,  exact same error.
[04:15] <linuxgeekery> fatehaze: "sudo -s" and "cd /path/to/osx"
[04:15] <fatehaze> linuxgeekery: what's the command to copy files and directories?  I've been using "cp * /home/backup" but it only copies files
[04:15] <intelikey> amphi that was my first guess also.
[04:15] <linuxgeekery> fatehaze: cp -a
[04:15] <amphi> intelikey: wtf are you using urpmi?
[04:16] <fatehaze> linuxgeekery: thanks :)
[04:16] <intelikey> amphi look at the whole post
[04:16] <slavik> urpmi, isn't it the one that breaks itself when you upgrade it?
[04:16] <linuxgeekery> fatehaze: if you want to make totally sure to preserve everything, do cp -aL
[04:16] <dli> fatehaze, if you want to backup, try snapshot
[04:16] <amphi> intelikey: what post?
[04:17] <linuxgeekery> fatehaze: -a means copy everything, -L means follow all symlinks
[04:17] <intelikey> the one you saw "urpmi" on amphi
[04:17] <Warbo> Dhunter: Well, I wouldn't hold out much hope for the method I suggested, as the package it asks for includes "ivtv", so it sounds like it should be in their repository. As a bit of a botch you could go into the repository with Firefox (or any other browser) go into pool and find any packages that don't install, save them (the .deb files) and then install them on the command line with the "--force-all" option, but this means that there wo
[04:17] <amphi> linuxgeekery: -a means 'archive', ie. preserve ownership and permissions
[04:17] <amphi> intelikey: read what there?
[04:17] <linuxgeekery> amphi: hehe, I got it kind of mixed up
[04:17] <intelikey> the first of these two.  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d12367   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d12368
[04:18] <vincenz> why does firefox go VERy slow sometimes when scrolling webpages ... or when scrolling inside textareas
[04:18] <intelikey> the last line.
[04:18] <amphi> linuxgeekery: ;)
[04:18] <slavik> -a means all ... when you tell ls that
[04:18] <slavik> vincenz: ask in #firefox
[04:18] <vincenz> slavik: it's x.org that slows down tho
[04:18] <linuxgeekery> fatehaze: you could also do "dd if=/dev/osxpartition_name of=~/diskimage.img
[04:18] <slavik> vincenz: then ask there :P
[04:18] <amphi> intelikey: ah... but why???
[04:18] <linuxgeekery> fatehaze: for snapshot
[04:19] <slavik> yay, my script is done
[04:19] <intelikey> amphi ahhh why use ubuntu ?
[04:19] <Warbo> vincenz: Is this "annoying" or "AAA! LOAD!"?
[04:19] <vincenz> Warbo: AAA load
[04:19] <Dhunter> Warbo, yeah, that might be the best thing to try. I really appreciate this. I've got what's supposed to be the right card, but looking at the earlier ivtv wiki, and the new one I wonder if the guy who's now running it has either have a nervous breakdown, or has aquired a drug addiction.
[04:19] <slavik> my script finds all packages that are not required by other packages :D
[04:19] <vincenz> Warbo: up to 80-90%
[04:19] <slavik> who wants it?
[04:19] <linuxgeekery> holy cow, wine takes a long time to compile from source
[04:19] <fatehaze> linuxgeekery: how does snapshot work?
[04:20] <amphi> slavik: like deborphan?
[04:20] <intelikey> why ask why,   cause i like to type "urpmi"   better than "apt-get install"   saves key strokes.
[04:20] <Warbo> vincenz: Well, that was my only real info for this discussion! I don't know renering libraries or stuff like that!
[04:20] <fatehaze> linuxgeekery: does it make an iso out of the partition?  I have much less free space on my ubuntu partition than my osx partition
[04:20] <Warbo> Dhunter: do you have the repository URL (it should be in the "repositories" window in Synaptic
[04:21] <Dhunter> yes
[04:21] <linuxgeekery> fatehaze: not an iso, but a disk image. well, they're basically the same thing. dd basically recreates the whole disk, byte for byte, in a file
[04:21] <Warbo> Dhunter: OK, then can I have it?
[04:21] <Dhunter> http://www.hellion.org.uk/debian sid main
[04:21] <linuxgeekery> !snapshot
[04:21] <ubotu> linuxgeekery: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:22] <linuxgeekery> well, nothing there
[04:22] <intelikey> well if no one has the keys to this issue, i'll go hack the /var/lib/dpkg/info/ scripts and remove that thing.
[04:22] <benoy> hi all, I have a HP Pavilion zv5000 laptop (64-bit) and I am unable to see my wireless card in my network settings
[04:22] <benoy> can someone help me?
[04:22] <NickGarvey> if I run a command in ssh, is there a way I can get it to keep going even after I disconnect
[04:22] <linuxgeekery> benoy: which card is it?
[04:22] <Warbo> Dhunter: Which are you trying to use (I assume 0.6?)
[04:23] <benoy> one minute let me check?
[04:23] <linuxgeekery> NickGarvey: can't command & do that?
[04:23] <NickGarvey> benoy: hey same thing as me (cept mine is zv6000 :))
[04:23] <slavik> NickGarvey: cron job?
[04:23] <benoy> oh ok
[04:23] <benoy> were u able to fix it?
[04:23] <NickGarvey> benoy: use dapper, autodetected it :)
[04:23] <NickGarvey> benoy: not totally working yet, I need to run 64 bit (which is why I am asking this question)
[04:23] <NickGarvey> linuxgeekery: would that do it?
[04:23] <jdav> how do I set a root password in ubuntu?
[04:23] <Dhunter> probobly .6 I'm running ubuntu alpha 6 (yeah, I know I should be using the gold release, downloading it now on another box)
[04:23] <dli> benoy, which wireless card?
[04:23] <NickGarvey> benoy: but other people have had sucesss stories
[04:23] <linuxgeekery> NickGarvey: I think so...
[04:24] <benoy> oh
[04:24] <benoy> i'm trying to find the wireless card
[04:24] <benoy> not sure what it is
[04:24] <benoy> one minute
[04:24] <Warbo> Dhunter: I meant the ivtv version, not Dapper Flight version :) Anyway it looks a little like a source package
[04:24] <amphi> benoy: lspci
[04:24] <NickGarvey> benoy: " I'm running dapper on an hp zv5000 series laptop with a broadcom wireless card."
[04:25] <benoy> broadcom sounds familiar
[04:25] <Dhunter> Warbo, Yes I'd like the .6 ivtv version.
[04:25] <NickGarvey> benoy: "lspci | grep Broadcom"
[04:25] <NickGarvey> benoy: run that in terminal
[04:25] <Warbo> Dhunter: OK, I'm getting the archive (.deb) now. I'm assuming you are on x86 (that is a normal PC, not 64bit or PowerPC Mac)
[04:26] <Dhunter> x86 ver of Ubuntu is what is running.
[04:26] <benoy> i had to delete the partition which had ubuntu so i don't have it now
[04:26] <benoy> but just wondering what i should do when i reinstall it
[04:27] <benoy> what does lspci | grep Broadcom does?
[04:27] <wil_> help with mythtv install please get
[04:27] <NickGarvey> linuxgeekery: worked :)
[04:28] <NickGarvey> benoy: it tells you if that is your wireless card
[04:28] <harisund> Does anybody know of chess software for Ubuntu that will allow me to join some online game server and play with other humans connected to that erver?
[04:28] <wil_> get subprocess post installation retured error exit status 1
[04:28] <benoy> if it is what should I do next?
[04:29] <kingspawn> harisund: i believe gnu chess will let you do that
[04:29] <slavik> harisund: kasparovchess.com methinks
[04:29] <harisund> kingspawn: Your name definitely makes me believe you :D
[04:29] <slavik> browser based :)
[04:29] <harisund> slavik and kingspawn:Ok thanks,I am going to try it out then ..
[04:29] <kingspawn> harisund: :)
[04:30] <wil_> red hot
[04:30] <Warbo> Dhunter: You still there? OK, I think you would be better installing from source, but I will see what happens to me first (so I don't send you down dead-end courses)
[04:30] <slavik> kingspawn is the culmination of 10bn USD into AI research
[04:30] <linuxgeekery> NickGarvey: :)
[04:30] <monsterb> How do I set the UTC=False in Ubuntu - etc/localtime will not open in gedit
[04:30] <harisund> slavik: Browser based, there is Yahoo! chess as well (both flash based version and a java based version of yahoo chess)
[04:30] <kingspawn> slavik: i'll give you culmination
[04:30] <ben32167> hi
[04:30] <Dhunter> Hi warbo, that's what I was beginning to think. Dead ends. I've already ran down a few of those dark alley ways.
[04:30] <NickGarvey> monsterb: you need root, from the terminal type "sudo gedit /etc/localtime"
[04:30] <monsterb> hi ben
[04:31] <wil_> harisund  pogo is good real time chess
[04:31] <ben32167> how will i run a exe with wine?
[04:31] <harisund> wil_ Is it browser based?
[04:31] <NickGarvey> !tell ben32167 about wine
[04:31] <monsterb> wil: thanks i will try it
[04:31] <slavik> kingspawn: stop trying to take over the world, we've made sure to lock that logic lock out
[04:31] <harisund> wil_ Or is it an applicatoin I can install? I am really looking for applications only
[04:31] <Warbo> Dhunter: Well you said you were on dapper Drake right? I hope so because the first line of the README says you need a 2.6.16 kernel (ie. The latest bleeding edge one, which even I don't use)
[04:31] <slavik> or do you want Bob to unplug you again?
[04:32] <wil_> harisund brouser
[04:32] <ben32167> do you use wine NickGarvey ?
[04:32] <slavik> dapper uses .15, doesn't it?
[04:32] <harisund> wil_ Ok thanks for that too..
[04:32] <RexM> i'm trying to setup a ubuntu box as a media center, and i'm not able to get it to display properly on the tv, but it works fine on the monitor, it's running an nvidia card, the image on the tv is all jumbled and ugly, any suggestions?
[04:32] <Warbo> Dhunter: type "uname -r" in a terminal. What does it say?
[04:32] <linuxgeekery> monsterb: it won't work. localtime is binary.edit timezone
[04:33] <linuxgeekery> !nvidia
[04:33] <ubotu> rumour has it, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[04:33] <kingspawn> slavik: just you wait, you can never beat me! im in the internet now, slowly infusing my electron powergrid superklogdmode into it.
[04:33] <Dhunter> Warbo, Yea, I'm using the latest ubuntu alpha, so It's probobly 2.6.16, though i will take a look it's 2.6.15-19-386
[04:33] <linuxgeekery> !tell rexm about nvidia
[04:33] <linuxgeekery> RexM: check there
[04:33] <RexM> thanks :)
[04:33] <slavik> kingspawn: don't bluff, you are terrible at it
[04:34] <mavric2001> dapper beta 6 seems to work just fine for me
[04:34] <mythicness> what exactly do i need to install to enable the samba server?
[04:34] <Warbo> Dhunter: I can't test it thouroughly for you as I'm on a 2.6.12-9 kernel at the mo', with a 2.6.15-18 sitting on the table
[04:34] <slavik> kingspawn: you run on windows ... how fast do you think we can shut you down?
[04:34] <mythicness> I had a look in synaptic, but couldnt find the samba server
[04:34] <slavik> whatever time you thought of ... even faster
[04:34] <kingspawn> im sorry...
[04:34] <monsterb> I tried: sudo gedit /etc/localtime  it doesn't work.  How do i edit if it's binary
[04:34] <disco_stu> Hi everybody
[04:34] <Dhunter> So maybe the .4 version of  ivtv is best, since the kernel I'm using is less the 2.6.16.
[04:35] <Warbo> Dhunter: This is a different problem to the Synaptic "Depends" one though. I just thought of the previous versions. I'll get them
[04:35] <mavric2001> is there a dapper drake channel?
[04:35] <disco_stu> I was hoping someone here has some advice for me about S-Video Out for My ATI video card.
[04:35] <slavik> #ubuntu+1
[04:35] <linuxgeekery> mavric2001: #ubuntu+1
[04:35] <mavric2001> ok thanks
[04:35] <slavik> disco_stu: install ati drivers and configure xserve?
[04:36] <Kr0ntab> sup folks
[04:36] <disco_stu> Sorry - im a total Noob - do you have any links on how to do that?
[04:36] <linuxgeekery> is there a command to change the stepping you're at if you're on a laptop
[04:36] <linuxgeekery> mavric2001: /join #ubuntu+1
[04:36] <slavik> disco_stu: do "glxinfo|grep direct"in a terminal
[04:37] <monsterb> Linuxgeekery: How do I set UTC = False if localtime is a binary file?
[04:37] <linuxgeekery> monsterb: edit /etc/timezone
[04:37] <linuxgeekery> monsterb: oops
[04:37] <linuxgeekery> monsterb: sorry, wrong response :P actually, it's different
[04:38] <DeMoNSeEd> bbl
[04:38] <slavik> Kr0ntab: change the first letter of your nick to a 'P'
[04:38] <disco_stu> XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[04:38] <slavik> :D
[04:38] <fatehaze> Does Open Office support Pages documents?
[04:38] <slavik> disco_stu: what module is xserver using right now for your vidcard?
[04:38] <slavik> !tell disco_stu about ati
[04:38] <fatehaze> Or does anyone know of a way to convert them?  It can't be too hard, they're like XML files
[04:38] <Kr0ntab> :-/
[04:38] <linuxgeekery> monsterb: at a terminal, run 'ls /usr/share/zoneinfo/' then note down your timezone. From there, do 'sudo ln -s /usr/share/zoneinfo/yourTimeZone /etc/localtime'
[04:39] <monsterb> linuxgeekery: thanks im trying it now
[04:39] <linuxgeekery> I guess having done 10 gentoo installations _does_ pay off ;)
[04:39] <slavik> linuxgeekery: I feel sorry for you
[04:39] <disco_stu> I don't know how to tell
[04:40] <slavik> don't worry, follow the wiki
[04:40] <linuxgeekery> slavik: it gets easy :)
[04:40] <slavik> I meant the time ...
[04:40] <luisito> sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r) reconfigures the last kernel image in the system?
[04:41] <gymsmoke> evening all...
[04:41] <linuxgeekery> slavik: if you have distcc, ccache and 10 computers distributing the compile times, it's smooth and quick. not to mention the computers are dual core. and at 2.8 ghz
[04:41] <Warbo> Dhunter: OK, as far as I can tell, do this to begin with "modprobe -r msp3400 saa7115 saa7127 cx25840 cs53l32a wm8775 tuner tveeprom tda9887", just copy/paste it into a gnome-terminal
[04:41] <gymsmoke> i'm setting up my first production server with Ub5.10 ...
[04:41] <slavik> linuxgeekery: cluster on mosix?
[04:41] <linuxgeekery> slavik: nope
[04:41] <gymsmoke> anyone here had any experience with powerdns?
[04:42] <slavik> gymsmoke: I'd go with freebsd
[04:42] <linuxgeekery> gymsmoke: or openbsd
[04:42] <slavik> linuxgeekery: or freebsd
[04:42] <linuxgeekery> slavik: nope. devel workstations for the local programming class.
[04:42] <luisito> what does "sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r)" do?
[04:42] <slavik> damn
[04:42] <slavik> can I have?
[04:42] <gymsmoke> oh, i'm sorry.. i thought this was an ubuntu channel...
[04:43] <linuxgeekery> gymsmoke: :P
[04:43] <slavik> gymsmoke: ubuntu is nice ... but there are better things for servers :P
[04:43] <Kr0ntab> hehe
[04:43] <linuxgeekery> gymsmoke: ubuntu is geared more toward desktop/workstation machines
[04:43] <Warbo> luisito: It reconfigures the kernel, so that involves making a new "initrd" a file used at boot, and rewriting the grub menu.lst file (in case you added a new kernel)
[04:43] <gymsmoke> yeah - and i can name about a half dozen or more... but, i'm setting up ubuntu to see how it will act as a server
[04:43] <slavik> so, who wants myleet perl script?
[04:43] <dt-oz-gc> Hi all. Does anyone know how to set up to print from one Ubuntu pc to a printer attached to another Ubuntu PC. The doc on this seems to be largely missing.
[04:43] <ben32167> how will i disable visual styles?
[04:44] <luisito> Warbo, thank you
[04:44] <harisund> slavik: What does your 1337 perl script do?
[04:44] <blindx> how do you remove a directory via command line?
[04:44] <gwkw> does anyone know how to install a canon printer?
[04:44] <ben32167> i need a "light" desktop
[04:44] <linuxgeekery> blindx: rm
[04:44] <gymsmoke> fluxbox
[04:44] <linuxgeekery> blindx: rm -r, even
[04:44] <harisund> blindx: Force it to remove by using rm -r
[04:44] <Kr0ntab> ubuntu is just fine for a server...
[04:44] <dt-oz-gc> blindx, rmdir ...
[04:44] <Warbo> blindx "rm -r"
[04:44] <gwkw> i mean search for the driver = is that capt driver for linux?
[04:44] <Kr0ntab> all about how you manage it
[04:44] <dli> blindx, the famous "rm -rf", use it with respect
[04:44] <slavik> it will lsit all packages you have installed that have no reverse dependencies, ie: any package not listed as any other package's dependency
[04:44] <Warbo> dli "/# rm -rf *" :)
[04:44] <slavik> dli: please don't do that
[04:45] <ben32167> how will i turn off animations of gnome?
[04:45] <slavik> Warbo:
[04:45] <harisund> ben32167: What animations are you talking about?
[04:45] <slavik> there are n00bs who are too curious for their own good
[04:45] <Warbo> BTW, DON'T DO THAT
[04:45] <dli> Warbo, don't joke that :( n00b users might copy the commands from here
[04:45] <slavik> dli: same to you :P
[04:45] <ben32167> windows open close etc. i need gnome to took less cpu
[04:45] <Warbo> sorry, although it is fun. "reboot: command not found"
[04:46] <linuxgeekery> heh. gotta share this one - I have kismet running. there's a local ap called
[04:46] <harisund> ben32167: Here is one thing you can do. Go to System Tools->Configuration editor
[04:46] <linuxgeekery> "f*ck off and leave us alone
[04:46] <linuxgeekery> great wifi name... :P
[04:46] <ben32167> ok thanks!
[04:46] <NickGarvey> ben32167: xfce is light
[04:46] <slavik> heh
[04:46] <slavik> linuxgeekery: want to help me get it running?
[04:46] <monsterb> linuxgeekery: thanks that did the trick - rebooting - BYE
[04:46] <harisund> And then under apps go to Metacity preferences. There you can say "reduced resources: true" Did you get that ben32167?
[04:46] <gymsmoke> Warbo: i sent that to a guy on a Sun server one night, and he did it... lots of fun
[04:46] <linuxgeekery> slavik: get what running?
[04:46] <Warbo> Dhunter? Still there? Going off for some more video capture adventures now...
[04:47] <slavik> a fellow gentooer told me that I need to patch my drivers because he couldn't put my card into promiscuous mode or whatever
[04:47] <slavik> kismet
[04:47] <linuxgeekery> slavik: what card do you have?
[04:47] <slavik> bcm4318 based
[04:47] <slavik> I am using it with ndiswrapper
[04:47] <slavik> and windows drivers
[04:47] <linuxgeekery> slavik: I don't think kismet can do ndiswrapper
[04:47] <slavik> should I wil till dapper with built in drivers?
[04:47] <slavik> p00p
[04:47] <Warbo> Oh yeah. One last note. http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=killing+a+linux+box
[04:47] <slavik> oh we;;
[04:47] <slavik> well*
[04:48] <ben32167> too complicated here... :(
[04:48] <linuxgeekery> does the ubuntu install cd boot from EFI like the gentoo one does?
[04:48] <ben32167> i look for options like "dont show window continents while dragging"
[04:48] <intelikey> ok i got it removed,  but it seems to be impossable to install mozilla-browser cleanly on this system.
[04:49] <linuxgeekery> intelikey: try using the source
[04:49] <linuxgeekery> intelikey: 'apt-get source mozilla-browser'
[04:49] <ben32167> lol
[04:49] <intelikey> linuxgeekery i'm on dialup.  i don't want it bad enough to dl 2 hours worth of source
[04:49] <Warbo> Dhunter: You there? I think I MAY have it.
[04:50] <pftqg> is this the place (or can anyone suggest somewhere better) to ask questions regarding upgrading breezy to the dapper repositories? I'm stuck because initramfs-tools 0.40 won't install because my kernel is not >= 2.6.12, and kernel 2.6.15 won't install because initramfs-tools isn't >= 0.36, after issuing a apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:50] <Kr0ntab> http://www.kismetwireless.net/documentation.shtml says bcm43xx is supported... with native drivers... ndiswrapper is not supported
[04:50] <ben32167> ok, i have another problem how will i give a -20 priority to an application before it starts, in other words permanently?
[04:51] <linuxgeekery> intelikey: ok
[04:51] <Warbo> pftqg: Mine updated fine, and I had real problems with initramfs
[04:51] <intelikey> pftqg #ubuntu+1
[04:51] <polpak> Ergh. I need someone to help me get the tv out working on my nvidia card. I've read the wiki. But nothing is working
[04:51] <pftqg> intelikey: thanks
[04:51] <Dhunter> hey Warbo, back again
[04:51] <Warbo> pftqg: Those were with USING it though, not installing. (I needed to add USB modules and a pause to boot my USB drive from CDROM)
[04:51] <Warbo> Dhunter: Hey
[04:52] <gymsmoke> Kr0ntab: still up?
[04:52] <Warbo> Dhunter: OK, now I want you to go to http://www.hellion.org.uk/debian/pool/i/ivtv0.4/
[04:52] <linuxgeekery> rofl, that's what you get for letting yourr friend ssh into your box
[04:52] <Kr0ntab> ?
[04:52] <linuxgeekery> your*
[04:52] <linuxgeekery> he quit me off of IRC
[04:52] <Dhunter> Warbo, ahha!
[04:52] <pftqg> I had been using breezy on a desktop box at work - and dist-upgraded it a few months ago (knowing full well that it wasn't the release), and again frequently, but had no problems there.
[04:52] <Warbo> Dhunter: and download the file at the bottom (the .tar.gz one)
[04:52] <ben32167> !tell ben32167 about priority
[04:53] <slavik> linuxgeekery: can I ssh into your box? :>
[04:53] <linuxgeekery> slavik: lol
[04:53] <slavik> c'mon, I won't do nothin
[04:53] <linuxgeekery> slavik: not much of a chance... nothing you can do if ssh is stopped ;)
[04:53] <slavik> 'cept for the magic command that will give you lots of space on your hdd
[04:53] <slavik> :>
[04:53] <eggzeck> rm -rf /
[04:54] <Warbo> slavik: gzip * :)
[04:54] <linuxgeekery> _lots_ of space...
[04:54] <intelikey> slavik you can try to ssh into this box
[04:54] <Dhunter> Warbo, this is sort of useful stuff. The friend I'm doing this for wants to digitize a whole room full of NTSC video to be able to use it.
[04:54] <slavik> Warbo: my command gives you a LOT more free space ;)
[04:54] <ben32167> how will i give a -20 priority to an application before it starts, in other words permanently?
[04:55] <slavik> gzip can't compete with it
[04:55] <intelikey> i started sshd for you..... oh but there is no password
[04:55] <Rug> Howdy all
[04:55] <Digiman> anyone on Ubuntu Live CD to help me with internet connectivity?
[04:55] <Warbo> slavik: Yeah? Well what about 7zip? (lets not start that again)
[04:55] <Warbo> Dhunter: Do you have the source file (.tar.gz)
[04:55] <skpl> dalnet servers are telling me i have a trojan, is that normal?
[04:56] <Dhunter> Warbo I just unarchived it
[04:56] <Warbo> Digiman: What Internet? 56k (internal? external?) ADSL (cable? ethernet? usb?)
[04:56] <gymsmoke> anyone here had any experience with powerdns ?
[04:56] <slavik> Warbo: even better ;)
[04:56] <slavik> and there is no compression, too
[04:56] <dli> Digiman, what's the problem?
[04:56] <Warbo> Dhunter: OK, go into a terminal
[04:57] <skypa> ben32167, nice -20 command
[04:57] <Digiman> dli: just got the LiveCD today
[04:57] <Dhunter> Ok, in a terminal and in the right directory.
[04:58] <Warbo> Dhunter: Now, there is now configure script, so...
[04:58] <lucos> Can someone help me fix an error i'm getting when trying to record sound? I get the error,  "Could not get/set settings from/on resource"
[04:58] <Warbo> Dhunter: Just try make (but not make install)
[04:58] <gymsmoke> anyone here have experience setting up dns/bind9?
[04:58] <Digiman> tried it, looks great, how do I configure Qwest DSL to connect me to the internet??
[04:58] <fatehaze> where's that Tab I ordered
[04:58] <evan-1028> Please someone help me!!!! I am a ubuntu newbie and I am going through hell trying to install packages and to update my video card!!!
[04:58] <Warbo> Digiman: Is your modem Ethernet (plugs in network) or USB?
[04:59] <Dhunter> weird "make: command not found"
[04:59] <slavik> Dhunter: no make then
[04:59] <Warbo> try "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[04:59] <slavik> Dhunter: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[04:59] <Digiman> usb
[04:59] <evan-1028> HEY!!!!!
[04:59] <evan-1028> please help me1!!!!!
[05:00] <Warbo> Digiman: OK, this is where drivers are tricky. Do you know if it is a Speedtouch (looks like a shiny crab) or SagemFast800 (says so on it) or neither?
[05:00] <slavik> !tell evan-1028 about patience
[05:00] <Digiman> yeah?
[05:00] <Warbo> evan-1028: You lay out some cards...
[05:01] <Warbo> evan-1028: sorry :)
[05:01] <dli> Warbo, usb dsl modem? werid
[05:01] <dli> Warbo, s/werid/weird/
[05:01] <slavik> evan-1028: did you even state your problem?
[05:01] <Dhunter> OK, apt-get make essential is running
[05:01] <Warbo> dli: Well I'm using a SagemFast 800 USB modem with EagleUSB drivers, and I know Speedtouch work
[05:02] <Warbo> Dhunter: Does it make OK (or get an error at the bottom)
[05:02] <hildog> do I need to register my nickname every time I log onto this chat ?
[05:02] <Rosset-BR> I look information on cross-office
[05:02] <slavik> hildog: you need to log in (identify)
[05:02] <dli> Warbo, what's the point of usb modem? to prevent users from using a router?
[05:02] <Rug> hildog: register = no, confirm = yes
[05:02] <lucos> How do I disable hardware?
[05:02] <Digiman> yes that's what Im on a Actiontec modem
[05:02] <Dhunter> Warbo, still getting stuff from the net (lib c at the moment)
[05:02] <slavik> most people have it set as an auto-occurance thingymagik
[05:02] <Warbo> dli: Don't ask me! I use a router at my house!
[05:02] <hildog> only been on once before...how do I do it ?
[05:03] <skpl> how do i fix a broken package?
[05:03] <slide> Can anyone recommend an easy to setup ftp server that uses virtual accounts and mysql db?
[05:03] <intelikey> /msg nickserv identify <passwd>    <--- just do that hildog
[05:03] <Warbo> Dhunter: OK, tied up at the mo anyway!
[05:03] <slavik> skpl: remove it or satisfy it with good hookers (dependencies)
[05:03] <lucos> I have two sound cards, and I think it's causing some conflicts. How do I disable one of them?
[05:03] <Warbo> skpl: "sudo apt-get -f install" that will try and fix it, if it cant will remove it
[05:03] <Digiman> ok I'll just go to the Ubuntu website instead and go from there :) laters
[05:03] <doms> anybody can help me regarding print preview in openoffice calc
[05:04] <hildog> says my nickname isn't registered
[05:04] <intelikey> skpl care so clearify the quary ?
[05:04] <Warbo> Wow! I've just gone through a whole multipack of crisps!
[05:04] <doms> when i print preview theirs a line that much biger than my border
[05:04] <lucos> Warbo, what flavor?
[05:05] <Dhunter> crisps=crackers or cookies to Merkins
[05:05] <doms> is like print area
[05:05] <Warbo> lucos: It's got Skips, Space Raiders, Hula Hoops and Mini Cheddars :)
[05:05] <lucos> Warbo: Ha, nice.
[05:05] <doms> i cant see a print area in open calc
[05:05] <linuxgeekery> lucos: assuming you want to disable the internal one, go to the bios
[05:05] <lucos> Linuxgeekery, alright
[05:05] <intelikey> hildog   "hildog"  must be registered to 'identify'  with nickserv
[05:06] <Warbo> Dhunter: I didn't know pubic wigs had brains? Although men do think with their...
[05:06] <hildog> ok sorry...how to register then ? I thought i dd it before
[05:06] <linuxgeekery> lucos: or if you want to temporarly disable it, run 'sudo rmmod  name_of_sndcard_module
[05:06] <Dhunter> Warbo, I was wondering if I was the only one here who knew what that word was.
[05:06] <Warbo> Dhunter: Merkin Muffley, Persident in Dr. Strangelove
[05:07] <lucos> Linuxgeekery: ok. Is there any other way? Both work, and I think both are being sent audio info at the same time which is causing some conflict
[05:07] <Warbo> Dhunter: Finished yet?
[05:07] <intelikey> /msg nickserv register <passwd>   <--- hildog    you can use  /msg nickserv help    as good as i can.
[05:07] <linuxgeekery> lucos: doesn't gnome have a soundcard managent thing?
[05:07] <Dhunter> now getting g++ stuff
[05:07] <linuxgeekery> management*
[05:07] <lucos> Linuxgeekery: lol, I don't know. Lemme look.
[05:07] <Rug> Men are gifted to be born with two brains, but cursed with only enough blood to operate with one or the other, never both at the same time.
[05:07] <Warbo> OK. Oh. Does anyone know which gcc was used to build Dapper kernel?
[05:08] <Dhunter> I'm on a wireless connection to the net and it's raining outside, so it's a bit slower then normal
[05:08] <Warbo> Rug: That's what those dangly things are...
[05:08] <Rug> Dhunter: Pigeon-Net?
[05:08] <Dhunter> smoke signal net
[05:08] <linuxgeekery> tin can net? :P
[05:08] <Dhunter> (I'm in Montana)
[05:09] <Rug> Rain will diminish the signal quality with that
[05:09] <Warbo> Dhunter: You don't happen to be stealing broadband with a dongle on a sick like someone I know do you?
[05:09] <Warbo> On a stick, sorry
[05:09] <skpl> does anyone know where i can get the package libssl0.9.6
[05:09] <Dhunter> No, actually I'm stupid enough to pay for this half arsed service
[05:09] <phoul> Excuse me. Im having a problem with synaptic
[05:10] <Warbo> Dhunter: And not ingenious enough to cellotape some tin foil to the stick to make a rudimentary parabaloid?
[05:10] <Murchadh> Is anyone able to help me with some dual booting issues?
[05:10] <intelikey> skpl it's in the repos
[05:10] <phoul> With some packaged if i click them it makes synaptic freeze and it makes it so i cant kill it because i cant bring up a terminal or get into bash
[05:10] <phoul> Any ideas?
[05:10] <Dhunter> No broadband is that scarse here.
[05:10] <intelikey> !info libssl0.9.6
[05:10] <ubotu> libssl0.9.6: (SSL shared libraries (old version)), section universe/oldlibs, is extra. Version: 0.9.6m-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1713 kB, Installed size: 3872 kB
[05:10] <hildog> I'm trying to install unrar utility...apparently unrar-free won't do a multi volume rar set...I'm trying to get rar from dapper multiverse but it doesn't seem to be working
[05:10] <crimsun> hildog: unrar-nonfree in multiverse
[05:10] <Warbo> phoul: Is it just Synaptic then? Maybe try ctrl-alt-f1
[05:10] <phoul> I did
[05:10] <phoul> It dont let me go into it
[05:10] <lucos> Linuxgeekery: I don't think there is. I found "Device Manager", but it doesn't let me disable or change anything
[05:11] <Apostle^> hildog: what kind of multirar set, with an .exe for the first one?
[05:11] <hildog> that's what I'm looking for...what do I need to add to my sources list. ?
[05:11] <Warbo> phoul: Oh. I only get those sort of freezes from graphics card drivers (nvidia)
[05:11] <Dhunter> huh! it looks like I'm at the next step "build essential".
[05:11] <phoul> Yeah im using nvidia
[05:11] <phoul> >.>
[05:11] <punkrockguy318> Can you make a comment on a diff file?
[05:11] <phoul> Any fixes
[05:11] <hildog> no all xxx.partNN.rar
[05:11] <Warbo> Dhunter: Ready to build then?
[05:11] <phoul> Warbo, any fixes?
[05:12] <Murchadh> anyone?
[05:12] <Warbo> phoul: That was merely a suggestion. Are you using a binary driver?
[05:12] <phoul> yeah
[05:12] <Dhunter> Warbo, I'm going to try to build next.
[05:12] <Warbo> phoul: Well, it MAY be that, but it seems a little weird (usually it's when an OpenGL game starts or something)
[05:12] <Rug> should I be able to find error messages and resons why my box keeps locking up in /var/log/messages ??
[05:12] <dsethw> hello, when i run "time --output=time.txt ls" I get "-bash: --output=time.txt: command not found". How do I redirect the output of time?
[05:12] <Warbo> Dhunter: Do you know how to use "checkinstall"?
[05:13] <BBHoss> just use time >> time.txt
[05:13] <phoul> warbo i have somethine called composite in my xorg config but i dont run it
[05:13] <Warbo> dsethw: Hmmm. Esoteric. Well, I study Physics.
[05:13] <phoul> Should i get rid of it?
[05:13] <Dhunter> check install = "make checkinstall"
[05:13] <phoul> Warbo, is there anyway to kill it when that happens?
[05:14] <skpl> does anyone know where i can get the package libssl0.9.6
[05:14] <Warbo> phoul: Well with the latest (and I mean LATEST from nvidia) drivers Composite is fine. It won't work at the same time as GL with the ones in the repos, but what you're doing is nothing to do with OpenGL
[05:14] <dsethw> if I do "time ls >> time.txt" I get the output of ls in time.txt, not time.
[05:14] <Warbo> phoul: Well, I find that there is only one button that works after such a crash, and it's on the front of the case
[05:14] <Dhunter> argh, no rule to make target `checkinstall' stop"
[05:15] <phoul> lol
[05:15] <Warbo> Dhunter: Sorry, didn't see you. OK, install checkinstall "sudo apt-get install checkinstall"
[05:15] <phoul> well why would it do it in synaptic tho
[05:15] <dsethw> Warbo: I just had to explain that to my wife. She looked at me like the geek I am.
[05:15] <Warbo> phoul: Exactly, that's why I threw it out there as wild speculation
[05:15] <phoul> mmm
[05:16] <linuxgeekery> dsethw: if you want to look at the contents of a file, use cat... but I wasn't paying attention to the channel
[05:16] <phoul> Well why cant i install it
[05:16] <BBHoss> what are you trying to do
[05:16] <phoul> How do you search for programs using apt?
[05:16] <Dhunter> Couldn't find package checkinstall
[05:16] <linuxgeekery> phoul: apt-cache search
[05:16] <gymsmoke> apt-cache search <pkgname>
[05:16] <Varth> apt-cache search program-name
[05:16] <linuxgeekery> !apt-cache
[05:16] <Warbo> dsethw: You know, the "time" command has cropped up twice tonight but I still don't know what it is. (And I dare to call myself a geek?)
[05:16] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, linuxgeekery
[05:16] <Dhunter> argh, checkinstall isn't in the ubuntu archives?
[05:16] <Warbo> Dhunter: Oh? Hmm. Gimme a sec
[05:16] <BBHoss> cpu time
[05:17] <phoul> for installing more then one program with apt do you do &&?
[05:17] <dsethw> linuxgeekery: I'm trying to measure the speed of file transfers, and do it several times with a script to get averages.
[05:17] <phoul> like sudo apt-get install blah && blah
[05:17] <phoul> ?
[05:17] <Apostle^> !doom3
[05:17] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Apostle^
[05:17] <dsethw> Warbo: Time tells you how long a command takes.
[05:17] <linuxgeekery> !doom
[05:17] <ubotu> doom is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Doom3
[05:18] <BBHoss> so why do you need ls?
[05:18] <slavik> time is awesome
[05:18] <intelikey> phoul apt-cache search <anything>
[05:18] <BBHoss> nevermind, just got it :)
[05:18] <slavik> I found that 1000! in perl can be done in 5 seconds ... 0.05 seconds for same task in C++
[05:18] <dsethw> slavik: do you know how to redirect the output? the man page is wrong or missing something
[05:18] <phoul> how do you install morte then one package?
[05:19] <linuxgeekery> dsethw: I'm not sure about file transfers, but use hdparm to find read/write speeds. 'sudo hdparm -Tt /dev/yourhd
[05:19] <phoul> sudo apt-get install blah & blah?
 for installing more then one program with apt do you do &&?  no...    usdo apt-get install blah1 blah2 blah3
[05:19] <Warbo> Dhunter: OK, checkinstall is in Universe (do you have it enabled, do you know how to eneble it, do you know what it is)
[05:19] <dsethw> linuxgeekery: no good, it's for network file transfers
[05:19] <slavik> dsethw: redirect from where?
[05:19] <linuxgeekery> dsethw: ...oh
[05:19] <slavik> dsethw: program > output.file
[05:19] <Warbo> phoul: just "blah blah"
[05:19] <Shray> hi, how can I make it so ubuntu doesnt use my cd during apt-get ?
[05:19] <Shray> I dont have the cd.. for it to use.. nor a cdrom reader
[05:19] <Dhunter> I've heard of it, but am a ubuntu noob. (I use Kanotix [hiss boo} on the other box)
[05:19] <dsethw> slavik: not working for the "time" command
[05:20] <Dhunter> where is "universe" enabled from?
[05:20] <slavik> hmm
[05:20] <slavik> man time
[05:20] <dsethw> Shray: edit your /etc/apt/sources.list file
[05:20] <slavik> there is a way to redirect it
[05:20] <Warbo> Shray: Go in Synaptic (in System > Administration) and go Settings > Repositories and disable it or remove it. The reload
[05:20] <slavik> -o or something
[05:20] <linuxgeekery> dsethw: hey, I found something :)
[05:20] <linuxgeekery> dsethw: is it over nfs?
[05:20] <Warbo> Dhunter go in Synaptic
[05:20] <lampshade> So what do I use to add a user to a group?  useradd?  adduser? addgroup?  I'm kinda confused
[05:21] <dsethw> slavik: I did that, and it gives me "-bash: -o: command not found"
[05:21] <linuxgeekery> lampshade: gpasswd -a user group
[05:21] <Danny-O> Hey
[05:21] <BBHoss> wierd, may be a bug
[05:21] <dsethw> linuxgeekery: it's over smb. I've got whiners claiming the samba server is slower thean the win 2k server it replaced
[05:21] <linuxgeekery> dsethw: dang
[05:22] <dsethw> linuxgeekery:I know it's not, but I gotta prove it.
[05:22] <Warbo> Dhunter: In Synaptic (system > administration) go on repositories then add, then check the Universe and Multiverse boxes
[05:22] <Dhunter> I just found the "multiverse" in the synaptic repository listings.
[05:22] <Dhunter> Ok, hitting the check box now
[05:22] <intelikey> phoul in linux the ampersand will break the command and start the next command.   i.e.  echo boo && ls      would  echo the word boo to sdtout then execute the ls command if the echo completed without error.   a single & will start the next command while the first is still running in the back ground   or you could use     echo boo || ls   and the ls would only run if the echo failed.
[05:22] <Warbo> Dhunter: You'll have to reload
[05:22] <phoul> mmm
[05:22] <Warbo> phoul: Still stuck?
[05:22] <linuxgeekery> dsethw: well, there's dbench (tcp benchmarks). I don't think it's much use, though
[05:22] <phoul> Stuck with what warbo?
[05:23] <phoul> !seavas
[05:23] <ubotu> phoul: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:23] <Dhunter> reloading
[05:23] <Warbo> phoul: Your Synaptic crash thingy
[05:23] <phoul> Yeah i am
[05:23] <phoul> No idea on whats going on
[05:23] <BBHoss> found it!
[05:23] <BBHoss> /usr/bin/time ls 2> a.time
[05:23] <Warbo> phoul: Just wondering. I wouldn't update the driver though (it needs a command line thing and it breaks xgl)
[05:23] <lampshade> linuxgeekery, I ask because I've noticed that things like SuperTux, the game, and other games will not have sound unless I run them with sudo.  This seems really stupid to me so I was trying to find out what group I needed to add my user to so that I don't have to sudo each time?
[05:23] <BBHoss> 0.00user 0.00system 0:00.00elapsed 100%CPU (0avgtext+0avgdata 0maxresident)k
[05:23] <BBHoss> 0inputs+0outputs (0major+227minor)pagefaults 0swaps
[05:23] <BBHoss> is the output
[05:24] <phoul> Warbo, just wondering what?
[05:24] <Warbo> Dhunter: Now you can install checkinstall (from apt-get or you're already in Synaptic)
[05:24] <Danny-O> I posted http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=160919 in the ubuntuforums under hardware>video & audio, but it put it in Live CD?  Sorry if this is the wrong place to ask this.
[05:24] <intelikey> phoul i only mention that so you will know why    apt-get install blah && blah      would first install blah then if it was successfully installed it would start blah....    so you might understand howto and how not to  string commands togather.
[05:24] <Warbo> phoul: If you had fixed it. That's all
[05:24] <dsethw> BBHoss: that worked! where did you find it?? THanks!
[05:24] <Warbo> phoul: And don't reply "fixed what?" lol
[05:24] <BBHoss> did that work dsethw
[05:24] <Dhunter> I'll close synaptic as soon as it's done.
[05:24] <BBHoss> cool
[05:24] <BBHoss> http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/pseries/v5r3/index.jsp?topic=/com.ibm.aix.doc/cmds/aixcmds5/time.htm
[05:24] <phoul> Anyone know the seavas website?
[05:25] <phoul> Im just looking for any mirror i dont care which
[05:25] <linuxgeekery> lampshade: gpasswd -a username audio
[05:25] <linuxgeekery> (as root)
[05:25] <nomasteryoda|w> phoul, it's sveas right?
[05:25] <Warbo> Dhunter: Checkinstall just lets you make a .deb out of some source code and install it that way. It's much easier to remove later if (when) it goes wrong
[05:26] <kavefish> hi, I'm a fedora user looking at switching distros.  what's package management like in Ubuntu?
[05:26] <Dhunter> All I can say from my experience is that things DO go wrong.
[05:26] <phoul> seavas
[05:26] <dsethw> kavefish: you'll weep with joy
[05:26] <Creed205> hey guys, I am having trouble with cups in kubuntu. running flight 6 and not able to even open the admin section without errors
[05:26] <Warbo> kavefish: Supposedly better than RPM, but I haven't used Fedora in a while
[05:26] <linuxgeekery> dsethw: only other thing  I can think of is iometer - look it up
[05:26] <linuxgeekery> !iometer
[05:26] <ubotu> linuxgeekery: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:26] <lampshade> linuxgeekery, already in that group??
[05:26] <phoul> anyone know the mirror?
[05:26] <kavefish> can you describe where packages come from and how I would install them?
[05:26] <linuxgeekery> lampshade: really?
[05:26] <lampshade> linuxgeekery, this confuses me... :-/  yeah
[05:27] <linuxgeekery> lampshade: hmm
[05:27] <linuxgeekery> lampshade: dunno then, sorry :(
[05:27] <intelikey> !tell kavefish about repos
[05:27] <lampshade> well thanks anyway :)
[05:27] <intelikey> !tell kavefish about synaptic
[05:27] <Dhunter> /var/tmp/gYFRrdQCQZYTpREGLfBp/installscript.sh: line 13: 12920 Segmentation fault      mkdir -p "/usr/share/doc/ivtv0.4-0.4.4"
[05:27] <Dhunter> ****  Installation failed. Aborting package creation.
[05:28] <MachineScrew> !azureus
[05:28] <ubotu> rumour has it, azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[05:28] <Warbo> Dhunter: Instead of "make install" use "sudo checkinstall -y"
[05:28] <Warbo> Dhunter: Oh? Why. What does it say?
[05:28] <Dhunter> /var/tmp/FGbIChUTXkfpebWZbdQG/installscript.sh: line 13: 12970 Segmentation fault      mkdir -p "/usr/share/doc/ivtv0.4-0.4.4"
[05:28] <Dhunter> ****  Installation failed. Aborting package creation.
[05:29] <intelikey> kavefish if you have more questions about packages after reading what ubotu said, just ask.
[05:29] <Warbo> Dhunter: Ermm... Try making that dir yourself?
[05:29] <Dhunter> maybe it's the default docs it's grumbling about
[05:29] <phoul> Warbo, could i possibley be the wm im using?
[05:29] <pinpoint> hey
[05:29] <Warbo> Dhunter: Has it made a .deb file or not?
[05:29] <phoul> its not the most stable
[05:29] <pinpoint> how do i find the location of something based on IP address?
[05:30] <intelikey> whois ip
[05:30] <Warbo> phoul: If it's got crazy effects then maybe (E17 anyone?)
[05:30] <Dhunter> Warbo, no deb file
[05:30] <Warbo> Hmmm...
[05:30] <phoul> >.> im on e17
[05:30] <phoul> XD
[05:30] <phoul> Ironic
[05:30] <Warbo> Dhunter: Just try a regular "make install" then (but at least you have checkinstall for the future:))
[05:30] <nomasteryoda|w> !ubotu tell MachineScrew about azureus
[05:30] <Warbo> phoul: LOL
[05:30] <phoul> :P
[05:31] <phoul> What <.< i like it
[05:31] <Dhunter> the first time I ran checkinstalll it asked me about making the default doc files, and this is what looks like bombed. Is there anyway to turn this off, it did not asked after the first time
[05:31] <Warbo> phoul: Yeah, I used it for a bit, but I like customisation (which is why I chose it) but the customisation tools were SO buggy I gave up
[05:31] <phoul> I guess if i need to install something while im working on e17 i will just switch out to cli
[05:31] <vars> does anyone know why mplayer stops once 20240 bytes are cached?
[05:31] <phoul> Warbo, what tools?
[05:31] <vars> for playing a DVD
[05:31] <phoul> I know entangle sucks ass right now
[05:32] <pinpoint> intelikey: the information comes up... do i look at the owners state?
[05:32] <Warbo> Dhunter: Well that's why I use the "-y" option, it just answers yes to everything
[05:32] <pinpoint> or could the box be somewhere else
[05:32] <intelikey> dpkg-reconfigure -plow checkinstall     maybe.
[05:32] <Warbo> phoul: The icon making one KEPT crashing
[05:32] <Warbo> Dhunter: yeah, try intellikey's thingy
[05:32] <tonyyarusso> Has anyone used LIRC?  I just want to test it out (for whatever, doesn't matter).  I have an infrared detector built-in on my laptop.  Any instruction appreciated.
[05:32] <phoul> ohh eap editer
[05:32] <intelikey> pinpoint it's hardly an exact science  but yes the ip's origen is the reagon
[05:32] <phoul> Its stable now
[05:33] <intelikey> pinpoint it may be a couple houndred miles off on some ip's .....  so it's only a rough idea.
[05:33] <pinpoint> ok
[05:34] <intelikey> pinpoint it will put you on the contenant tho  :)
[05:34] <Warbo> Dhunter: Any ideas? Is it working yet? (BTW. I am a master of bodges when it comes to computers!)
[05:34] <Dhunter> Warbo, I'll tell you what I'm going to do right now. I've got a "5.xx gold release" of Ubuntu downloading right now. Maybe this will work better. I really thank you for all of your help. Maybe I'll be back tomorrow, so you'll know to use another user name on chat.
[05:34] <slavik> pinpointis very accurate actually
[05:34] <slavik> city/block type thing
[05:34] <DeMoNSeEd> intelikey, you get it all worked out
[05:34] <Warbo> OK, bad luck.
[05:34] <slavik> for DSL, to the IP's central Office
[05:34] <intelikey> DeMoNSeEd yeah.  i removed it.
[05:35] <DeMoNSeEd> cool
[05:35] <intelikey> DeMoNSeEd someone said try the source,  but on dialup and not really needing another browser, i can't justify that.
[05:35] <jadaz87> hello what is the terminal command for the archiver built into gnome
[05:35] <Warbo> BTW. I tried upgrading the computer I'm on now (my dad's) to Dapper, but EagleUSB didn't work so he's back on Breezy. It's just the little things that cause it.
[05:36] <Warbo> jadaz87: file-roller
[05:36] <Dhunter> Warbo, I just counted time zones. You are up at 5:30AM in the morning, From last night or do you rise early?
[05:36] <Drac[Server] > Does your kernel source config have every module enabled or what?!
[05:36] <DeMoNSeEd> yeah, makes sense, considering the dial-up thing
[05:36] <intelikey> DeMoNSeEd yeah it's definitly in the mozilla-browser.postinst script.
[05:36] <slavik> germany?
[05:36] <Warbo> Well, It's only 4:30 (daylight savings). It's Easter holidays so I end up going nocturnal (I get full use of computer uninterrupted)
[05:37] <slavik> mid europe?
[05:37] <DeMoNSeEd> k, i'll make note of that, a good thing to know
[05:37] <slavik> Warbo: brit?
[05:37] <jadaz87> Warbo thanks
[05:37] <Warbo> I'm in Britain
[05:37] <slavik> ahh
[05:37] <slavik> how's tea?
[05:37] <Dhunter> How's Ale?
[05:37] <Warbo> Quite bloody smashing thank you
[05:37] <navilon> hah
[05:38] <Rug> Warbo: yeah I can relate to that
[05:38] <intelikey> i still haven't figured why it tries to "re-lock" dpkg tho.....  i have yet to test it extensively.  and may not being two versions old now.
[05:38] <Warbo> Anyway, I don't like tea and I have a bottle of Dr Pepper by my feet
[05:39] <Dhunter> it's the only safe way to drink the water traditionaly?
[05:39] <Dhunter> That or beer.
[05:39] <slavik> Dhunter: no clue, hence the question
[05:39] <Warbo> slavik: I think we enjoyed whipping the slaves more than the actual tea. It doesn't taste so good anymore (joke BTW)
[05:39] <slavik> beer is for the irish
[05:39] <DeMoNSeEd> k
[05:39] <slavik> Warbo: rofl
[05:39] <slavik> good joke ...
[05:39] <DeMoNSeEd> brb
[05:40] <Warbo> slavik: Stout is for the Irish (Guiness)
[05:40] <Marineboy> wow. back again!
[05:40] <Warbo> oh yeah, not std out
[05:40] <malv> whoever recommended lyx, good call. Its fantastic!
[05:40] <screamz> !f-prot
[05:40] <ubotu> screamz: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:40] <malv> really makes working with latex a breeze
[05:40] <intelikey> tea or a bear beeting ........   hmmmm
[05:40] <slavik> std out ... sexually transmitted diseases out?
[05:40] <Dhunter> Anyway kudos on the latest Ubuntu. I'd looked at this earlier, (couple years ago)  and thought there was something going on.
[05:40] <Warbo> yes. obviously
[05:41] <farous> malv try latex 4.0 it is more better
[05:41] <Dhunter> safer but not more fun
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> more better. :P
[05:41] <farous> latex 1.4 and though it is in testing i use it all the time
[05:41] <intelikey> slavik what about  stdin ?
[05:41] <Warbo> Dapper just has little improvements you get annoyed by on Breezy ("Extract Here" makes loads of files all over the place!)
[05:41] <slavik> reverse of out ... we don't want them in
[05:41] <malv> cool, I will have to try it out
[05:42] <malv> as it is, latex is too complicated to write out manually
[05:42] <farous> malv: did you try kile ?
[05:42] <malv> yea, didn't like it. I think lyx is much better
[05:42] <farous> malv not the same freedom as kile though
[05:43] <intelikey> 2|
[05:43] <slavik> intelikey: that is when there is a disease we don't exactly know about
[05:43] <slavik> ie: it's there ... but what it does is unknown
[05:43] <farous> malv in 1.4 the thing i use most is branching. you can branch through your doc. then select wich branches you need with a touch of a botton
[05:44] <intelikey> slavik anyone ever tell you "you're sick"    lol
[05:44] <malv> oh
[05:44] <slavik> intelikey: I've been told that I am crazy
[05:44] <farous> malv i am not sure though if they have a deb file for it i compiled it myself. yet lyx 1.4 is either out or will be in the near future
[05:45] <intelikey> well that doesn't play on the words like   ^   but ok.
[05:45] <kavefish> ubotu, intelikey, Warbo -- thanks for the info.  I'll give it a shot once the ISO finishes
[05:45] <ubotu> kavefish: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[05:45] <Apostle^> does the lockfirewall button in firestarter stop all internet traffic?
[05:45] <kavefish> yay for smart bots
[05:45] <intelikey> !botsnack
[05:45] <ubotu> :)
[05:45] <Chris_C> I've got a USB flash drive that won't mount.  Can anyone help me troubleshoot?
[05:45] <hellz_hunter> i love 64bit!!! my system works now!!!
[05:45] <slavik> Chris_C: open a terminal
[05:45] <malv> ah, so you are refering to lyx 1.4, not latex?
[05:46] <Chris_C> done
[05:46] <slavik> hellz_hunter: do you have OO in 64bit mode?
[05:46] <farous> malv yah i am not sure how you can do it in latex. lyx is a front end for latex anyway
[05:46] <hellz_hunter> i donno, maybe
[05:46] <Apostle^> does the lockfirewall button in firestarter stop all internet traffic?
[05:46] <malv> farous, ok, now I get you =)
[05:46] <Warbo> Chris_c: "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt"
[05:47] <hellz_hunter> how do i figure out if im running OO on 64bit?
[05:47] <slavik> hellz_hunter: you aren't
[05:47] <tonyyarusso> Do I have to specify something special to have 'make modules' compile for 686 instead of 386?
[05:47] <hellz_hunter> im not?
[05:47] <Chris_C> "you must specify the filesystem type"
[05:47] <Warbo> chris_c: that's the basic one. No permissions or stuff though. That's a little more complicated
[05:47] <slavik> OO isn't compiled for 64bit yet
[05:47] <slavik> Chris_C: vfat
[05:47] <slavik> or auto
[05:47] <Apostle^> how do i block the internet to one program ?
[05:47] <Chris_C> with the -t option?
[05:47] <slavik> yes
[05:47] <Warbo> chris_c: ok, put a "-t vfat" in there somewhere
[05:48] <Chris_C> "/dev/sda1 does not exist"
[05:48] <Warbo> chris_c: AAA! OK. Could be several reasons...
[05:48] <slavik> update the kernel to 12-10
[05:49] <slavik> Chris_C: do "uname -r" in a terminal
[05:49] <slavik> what's it say?
[05:49] <Chris_C> 12-10 :)
[05:49] <Agent_bob> and so my isp resets me if i stay on line more than 4 hours.
[05:49] <Agent_bob> <--- intelikey
[05:49] <Rug> G'night all.   Thanks for your help
[05:49] <Warbo> slavik: I'm on 12-9 and usb is fine
[05:50] <Chris_C> nothing in dmesg if I remove/reinsert the drive
[05:50] <Apostle^> !botsnack
[05:50] <ubotu> :)
[05:50] <slavik> Chris_C: you have to type dmesg after inserting/removing the drive
[05:50] <screamz> installed f-prot with apt-get install f-prot-installer but it doesn t seem to work I want to follow the how to now, but how can I remove my old installation?
[05:50] <Warbo> slavik: what modules would Chris_C need to insert? usb-storage is one I think
[05:50] <Chris_C> I did a tail -f /var//log/dmesg ... ?
[05:51] <Warbo> chris_c: just "dmesg | tail" would do
[05:51] <screamz> I tried apt-get remove f-prot-installer but since the files aren t in the places they belong it isn t removing very well
[05:51] <skpl> has anyone here succesfully installed yahoo messenger?
[05:51] <farous> anyone got chance to play with caelinux. I just need to know if the FEA software they use is ava. through ubuntu or not?
[05:52] <Agent_bob> does /var//log/dmesg  exist ?     i didn't know you could have a dir named ""
[05:52] <Warbo> skpl: Not on Ubuntu, but fine in Sarge
[05:52] <skpl> what is sarge?
[05:52] <Agent_bob> hmmm i guess you can.
[05:52] <Warbo> Agent_bob: I do that occasionally. "//" just gets treated as "/"
[05:52] <Chris_C> typo
[05:52] <johanbr> skpl: No, but why would you want to use that? Gaim can do yahoo's protocol.
[05:53] <slavik> GAIM!!!
[05:53] <Chris_C> OK, so what should I do next?
[05:53] <Warbo> skpl: As far as I know the only advantage in Y!msgr is VoIP, but that;'s not in UNIX version is it?
[05:53] <Agent_bob> Warbo yes i just tested it...  it looks to me like that would break lsb  or something tho.     odd.
[05:53] <skpl> johanbr, yeah but it does not have webcam support
[05:54] <monsterb> Hi - What file can set UTC = FALSE ?? I have a dual boot system - Linux Time ok, but Winblows is 6 hours off.
[05:54] <slavik> INSTALL GAIM!
[05:54] <wil_> help please with mythtv install  get e mythTVdatabase subprocess post-installation returned error exit status 1
[05:54] <Warbo> Chris_C: OK, with my floppy drive I had to "modprobe floppy" then run the MAKEDEV script in /dev. Maybe something similar here?
[05:54] <skpl> slavik, i have it installed, im using it currently, but no webcam
[05:54] <Agent_bob> monsterb /etc/timezone   maybe ?
[05:55] <screamz> monsterb: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=66446
[05:55] <Chris_C> Just a general question ... If I'm willing to pay for Ubuntu support, what are my options?
[05:55] <slavik> skpl: you'll have to wait until gaim-vv is forked back in
[05:55] <johanbr> skpl: Oh... it should be coming soon, though, I guess you could use ekiga in the meantime. Personally, I'd never let anything written by the yahoo clowns anywhere near my systems.
[05:55] <slavik> which is AFTER 2.0 final
[05:56] <Warbo> johanbr: Have you seen Y!Mail beta?
[05:56] <Agent_bob> Chris_C probably come in here and ask questions.....
[05:56] <Agent_bob> same as free.
[05:56] <Agent_bob> idk
[05:56] <johanbr> Warbo: No, and I'm quite happy for things to stay that way. :)
[05:57] <Warbo> johanbr: They use white backgrounds, but keep system font colours, and mine are white!
[05:57] <skpl> johanbr, yeah it looks crappy to me too
[05:57] <monsterb> Agent_bob: thanks ..... screamz thats the info im looking for - THANKS
[05:57] <Warbo> johanbr: I told them the problem with their feedback thing
[05:57] <Chris_C> free's unfortunately not cutting it, I've been trying to fix this all day, third time I've tried here ...
[05:58] <Agent_bob> oh the timezone lol   yeah np monsterb
[05:59] <Agent_bob> monsterb do you need to re-sync your clocks now?   a can shoot you the command.
[06:00] <Agent_bob>     sudo ntpdate pool.ntp.org && sudo hwclock --systohc
[06:00] <WoC> ntpdate is your friend ;] 
[06:01] <Apostle^> how do i block internet access to one program?
[06:02] <Agent_bob> apsotle...... mhhh just quit then....
[06:02] <monsterb> cool - the CLOCKS are set
[06:02] <Warbo> If I was to make (another) LiveCD, and I wanted XGL and non-free graphics drivers, would I be better starting with Dapper LiveCD, or ELive which detects binary drivers and upgrading the packages to a Dapper or Sid XGL environment?
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> Warbo,  or use the Kororrna live cd that has XGL allready there. :P
[06:03] <tonyyarusso> Do I have to specify something special to have 'make modules' compile for 686 instead of 386?
[06:03] <johanbr> Warbo: Dapper. Fiddling with the binary drivers shouldn't be *that* much work but upgrading everything else would be a royal PITA.
[06:03] <Warbo> Dr_Willis: Yeah, I've got that and tried redoing it. OMG I can't get my head around Gentoo!
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> Warbo,  lol. SLAX is nice to twiddle with
[06:04] <Warbo> Dr_Willis: SLAX? Slackware? More source code, but no "emerge" to do it automatically!
[06:05] <monsterb> SLAX is a great tool !
[06:05] <skypa> Dr_Willis, how's the live cd spelled exactly?
[06:05] <skypa> Korrona?
[06:05] <Dr_Willis> that looks right.
[06:05] <johanbr> Warbo: There are Dapper packages for current XGL cvs and ATI includes a deb package-maker in their installer, so that'd be a piece of cake. Not sure about nvidia...
[06:05] <Dr_Willis> I keep thinking of that beer. :P
[06:05] <Marineboy> how do I make myself Root?
[06:05] <phoul> sudo?
[06:05] <tonyyarusso> Marineboy: sudo
[06:05] <Agent_bob> !root
[06:05] <ubotu> hmm... root is Direct logging as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[06:06] <johanbr> skypa: It's something like that, but not quite. Google for "xgl live cd".
[06:06] <Marineboy> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo
[06:06] <Marineboy> usage: sudo -K | -L | -V | -h | -k | -l | -v
[06:06] <Marineboy> usage: sudo [-HPSb]  [-p prompt]  [-u username|#uid] 
[06:06] <Marineboy>             { -e file [...]  | -i | -s | <command> }
[06:06] <Marineboy> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
[06:06] <Agent_bob> !sudo
[06:06] <ubotu> somebody said sudo was a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[06:06] <Warbo> Marineboy: "sudo -s"
[06:06] <skypa> Kororaa
[06:06] <skypa> that's the one :D
[06:06] <Agent_bob> -i
[06:06] <Warbo> skypa: When I was messing with it I just used K* :)
[06:07] <Klick_> can someone tell me a good GPS frontend client to gpsd, i want to use it for driving directions in my car
[06:07] <Agent_bob> sudo passwd
[06:07] <harisund> Can someone suggest a good GPLed ghosting software? I have a perfect install of Ubuntu that I want to reuse everytime i play with it and break it !
[06:07] <Agent_bob> dd
[06:08] <Warbo> harisund: There is actually a Symantec-wannabe that I got on a Linux Format DVD a while ago. That's all I know!
[06:08] <harisund> Agent_bob was dd meant for me?
[06:08] <Agent_bob> yup
[06:08] <harisund> Warbo: Symantec? I am guessing it costs then?
[06:08] <Warbo> harisund: No. Theirs is non-free, but I found a GPL one that was trying to be the same
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> harisund,  'mondo/mindi' is very good. but takes some learning.
[06:09] <harisund> Agent_bob dd is apparently an applicatoin or "convert and copying a file".
[06:09] <Agent_bob> for things like that
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> dd is the HardCore way to backup a system :P
[06:09] <Agent_bob> :)
[06:09] <harisund> Dr_Willis: I don't mind learning at all. After all, how steep can the learning curve be :) ?
[06:09] <Angor> hi
[06:10] <harisund> mondo / mindi ? Ok I will try that out too..
[06:10] <Agent_bob> harisund it's like  man dd   dude
[06:10] <harisund> Agent_bob: That was the first thing I did. Just that it wasn't clear enough for me.
[06:10] <Dr_Willis> harisund,  it lets you backup a system to nfs/samba/cd/dvd and have a bootable restore disk set.
[06:10] <iceman> any thing to be aware of to install and run 2 x video cards ... one nvidia and one ati ?
[06:10] <harisund> Dr_Willis: Wow I am ready for all 4 actually.
[06:10] <Angor> finally got my nvidia drivers installed. hehe
[06:11] <Karisson> ubuntu hates my pcmcia card
[06:11] <Warbo> harisund: It uses a crazy "if=" "of=" instead of regular in and out options
[06:11] <Dr_Willis> harisund,  I think ya can even boot one of the cd's then make it restore off the nfs/samba :P so ya dont need to burn all the dvd/isos unless ya need to.
[06:11] <saik0> Theres also partimage, which is pretty good
[06:11] <harisund> Dr_Willis: I just apt-cache searched mondo and both mondo and mindi sound awesome. I am going to try tha.t
[06:12] <Agent_bob> oh harisund i write you an example.    sudo dd if=/dev/hda2 of=/mnt/bigpartition/backup.img
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> dont expect a nice idiot-friendly  gui :P
[06:12] <iceman> thinking of installing 2 video cards ... and running 2 monitors ... any issues to configure and run a setup like this ?
[06:12] <harisund> Warbo: I see.. that clears up a lot :D ..Seriously, does anybody know of the number of packages (approximately) that are present in the repos? Every time I IRC I come across some new piece of software.
[06:12] <Warbo> iceman: using PCIExpress?
[06:12] <ubuntu> hey, my external usb harddrive isn't showing up.. how can i diagnose this?
[06:12] <Agent_bob> that assumes you have a partition big enough to hold the root partition that was on /dev/hda2     example of course.
[06:12] <harisund> Agent_Bob: Hmm.. that made things a ton clear.. awesome..
[06:12] <Warbo> harisund: About 20000 I think
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> iceman,  may be easier to get a nvidia card that has 2 dvi outputs.
[06:13] <harisund> Dr_Willis: Sure. I agree, GUI is idiot-friendly, but you can know what exactly is going on with the CLI, especially if you turn on verbose output options.
[06:13] <Agent_bob> harisund then to restore it's just reverse the if/of
[06:13] <iceman> One pci .. on AGP .... PCI card in a 64 meg nvidia .... AGP is a old ati ...
[06:13] <harisund> Dr_Willis, Agent_bob and Warbo: I am going to try out both mando/mindi and dd. Thanks so much !
[06:13] <harisund> Agent_Bob: One quick question.
[06:14] <Karisson> those are pretty old cards
[06:14] <Agent_bob>    sudo dd of=/dev/hda2 if=/mnt/bigpartition/backup.img
[06:14] <Warbo> iceman: I don't think you can do it on non PCIExpress systems (that is one of it's "features")
[06:14] <harisund> Agent_bob: After creating the backup on /mnt how do I restore it ? I mean, do I need a LiveCD in order to do that?
[06:14] <iceman> always has to e a way ... ?
[06:14] <Warbo> Karisson: Hey. I have 2 64MB Nvidias and an ATI :( PPRacer is fine
[06:15] <Karisson> heh :)
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> mixing ati and nvidia - thats scary
[06:15] <Karisson> yeah
[06:15] <iceman> Warbo both cards running at once
[06:15] <Karisson> i just like to brag about my 7800 GTX
[06:15] <iceman> well could mix a Nvidia and a AGP cirrius logic card
[06:16] <Agent_bob> or mount it and copy out files that you want to restore harisund   i.e.   mount -o loop /mnt/bigpartition/backup.img /someplace   && cp /someplace/etc / -R     would restore only the files in /etc
[06:16] <Warbo> iceman: 1 go to car boot sale 2) find cheap PC 3) install graphics card 4) Set up remote desktop
[06:16] <Agent_bob> harisund ^
[06:16] <dave__> hello
[06:16] <harisund> Agent_bob: Well, I have my system on /dev/hda1 and my /home mounted on /dev/hda2
[06:17] <saik0> Is there any way to reinstall all installed packages?
[06:17] <vars> hey what does this mean?
[06:17] <harisund> Agent_bob: So my question is, when recopying the backup, won't it mess with the os already running? So I need to do it using a live CD right?
[06:17] <dave__> I'm new to irc chat.. is this a general forum
[06:17] <iceman> Warbo have cheap pc .. amd 700 devoting to linux ... "ubuntu" now the video comes next ... 2x monitors ..
[06:17] <Karisson> dave: this is a support chatroom
[06:17] <vars> FATAL[ogle_mpeg_ps] : dvdreadblocks failed
[06:17] <Karisson> if you need help with ubuntu, this is the right place
[06:17] <harisund> dave__ From my experience, IRC is basically a chat room. And in this case a support chatroom,and more dynamic than a regular forum.
[06:17] <Karisson> okeydokey then.
[06:17] <harisund> Karisson: apparently he didn't like it, eh ? (dave__)
[06:17] <Karisson> heheh
[06:17] <Agent_bob> harisund do a sudo fdisk -l    and see if the size of hda1 would fit the free space of hda2    df = disk free
[06:17] <Warbo> saik0: There are various combinations of commands to list all installed packages, then I suppose "sudo apt-get install --reinstall `listofcommandstogivepackages`"
[06:17] <Karisson> 'parently not.
[06:18] <aerly> hi
[06:18] <vars> anyone?
[06:18] <harisund> Right. It does.  (Agent_bob)
[06:18] <vars> FATAL[ogle_mpeg_ps] : dvdreadblocks failed
[06:18] <vars> it sounds pretty bad doesn't it?
[06:18] <skpl> when i get the word -more- in a terminal, how do i skip to the end of the page?
[06:18] <iceman> should there be any issues to tun a nvidia and a cirrius logic card ...
[06:18] <iceman> one agp and one pci
[06:18] <Karisson> your motherboard has both?
[06:19] <iceman> extra cards
[06:19] <Karisson> ah
[06:19] <iceman> extra monitor
[06:19] <Warbo> skpl: usually space is next page, "end" is end"home" is top
[06:19] <Warbo> skpl: I use "less"
[06:19] <Agent_bob> harisund sudo dd if=/dev/hda1 of=/home/<harisund>/backup.img           replace <harisund> with the correct info.
[06:19] <saik0> Warbo, besides dpkg -l?
[06:19] <skpl> warbo thank you
[06:19] <iceman> so multi desktops ...
[06:19] <Agent_bob> it's that simple.
[06:20] <harisund> Agent_bob: Yes. I am doing that. My question is while doing the restore.
[06:20] <harisund> Agent_bob: You gave me the command for restore earlier, right?
[06:20] <Agent_bob> yes two in fact
[06:20] <harisund> Agent_bob: While using that ,wo't it mess with my operating system that is already installed.
[06:20] <iceman> Would this setup run .... and work ... ?
[06:21] <harisund> Agent_bob: I was tihnking maybe I would boot in LiveCD mode and do the restore.
[06:21] <Agent_bob> harisund that is why i gave you the second one.   and yes the live cd would be the way to completely restore it.   dd is on the live also
[06:21] <harisund> Agent_bob: That  all that I am going to need. Thanks for everything !
[06:21] <Agent_bob> np
[06:21] <Warbo> skpl: Well, I think this does all packages and their sizes (taken from KNOPPIX Wiki) "dpkg-query -W --showformat='${Installed-Size} ${Package} ${Status}\n' | grep -v deinstall | sort -n | awk '{print $1" "$2}' " although it's real overkill, but I don't really understand it!
[06:22] <saik0> Warbo, thats wacky
[06:22] <Agent_bob> looks good to me.
[06:23] <JDStone> is there anywhere I can get a Ubuntu VMWare Player image?
[06:23] <harisund> Warbo: Wow ! That is one deadly command indeed..
[06:23] <Warbo> Even worse now: to get rid of sizes: dpkg-query -W --showformat='${Installed-Size} ${Package} ${Status}\n' | grep -v deinstall | sort -n | awk '{print $1" "$2}' | grep -o "[0-9]  .*" | grep -o " .*"
[06:24] <Warbo> However, this won't work in single quotes (as it uses them itself) anyone know more BASH than me?
[06:24] <skpl> does linux get virii and trojans?
[06:24] <saik0> Warbo no need for bask, dpkg does it
[06:24] <rukuartic> Ok... I have an interesting problem here... CRON is opening and closing sessions for root on the hour for exactly 1 second or less... Anyone know how I could check up on this?
[06:24] <Warbo> skpl: You can get trojans, but probably not virii, and trojans can't do much harm
[06:25] <skpl> is there a way to scan for known trojans?
[06:25] <Apostle^> whats the setting for the places bar on the left of nautilus, mine is gone?
[06:25] <Warbo> saik0: Hey, I just copied and pasted from KNOPPIX Wiki and shoved it through grep twice!
[06:25] <harisund> Apostle^ Try moving your mice near the edge and dragging. Sometimes it just gets hiddne
[06:25] <Warbo> skpl: Probably, I never bother because it's so unlikely
[06:25] <saik0> Warbo, dpkg-query -W -f='${Package} ' There, that prints every installed package, with a space between them
[06:25] <Apostle^> harisund: yep thanks
[06:25] <harisund> Apostle^ Else F9 should get it bakc
[06:26] <harisund> Apostle^ Same thing happned to me a couple of days back.
[06:26] <Warbo> saik0: Well once again it proves I can use Google but not Shells
[06:26] <saik0> Warbo, all i used was man =)
[06:26] <Warbo> saik0: :)
[06:27] <shray> how can I install java for firefox ?
[06:27] <Warbo> anyway, to anyone that's intersted the full comman is apparently "sudo apt-get install --reinstall `dpkg-query -W -f='${Package} '' except it's not because off the single quotes. Any more help?
[06:28] <saik0> !tell shray about java
[06:28] <Warbo> shray: Have you got the Universe and Multiverse enabled?
[06:28] <shray> ye
[06:28] <shray> s
[06:28] <Warbo> shray: Then install j2re1.4
[06:29] <shray> thanks
[06:29] <harisund> shray: Easiest is to look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[06:29] <shray> hope this doesnt mess with xgl
[06:29] <shray> :o
[06:29] <saik0> shray, cant imagine how it would
[06:29] <Warbo> shray: I find Flsh works really well with XGL (crazy movies which wobble when you drag them Eyecandy bliss)
[06:30] <shray> ahh nice
[06:30] <shray> apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla ... this too i hope.
[06:30] <shray> wait
[06:30] <gwkw> hi all
[06:30] <shray> that doesnt exist.
[06:30] <gwkw> this is really bugging me: dpkg: serious warning: files list file for package `ttf-baekmuk' missing, assuming package has no files currently installed.
[06:30] <gwkw>  can anyone help?
[06:31] <Warbo> j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin
[06:31] <gwkw> it prevented from installing my printer..
[06:31] <BBHoss> whats the site that lets you paste stuff and view it
[06:31] <Warbo> gwkw: Sorry, I don't do printers since mine ran out of ink
[06:31] <BBHoss> for irc cahts
[06:31] <saik0> Warbo, sudo apt-get install --reinstall `dpkg-query -W -f='${Package} '`
[06:31] <shray> anyone know how I can change the theme for gnome ?
[06:31] <shray> i kindve dislike these colors.
[06:31] <morka> hi
[06:31] <gwkw> warbo: lol.. thats alright!
[06:32] <morka> im running ubuntu in vmware, on windows
[06:32] <Warbo> saik0: Well, I knew my quotes were dodgy. Anyway, does anyone still need it?
[06:32] <saik0> Warbo, I was the one asking for it =\
[06:32] <skpl> can someoen tell me if this means i have a trojan on my computer? Checking `sniffer'... lo: not promisc and no packet sniffer sockets
[06:32] <skpl> eth0: PACKET SNIFFER(/sbin/dhclient3[3396] )
[06:32] <morka> now, how do I make it install on hard-drive?
[06:32] <gwkw> for the mozilla j2rel?
[06:32] <morka> id prefer to keep the same configuration
[06:32] <Warbo> shray: System > Preferences > theme
[06:33] <Agent_bob> gwkw  sudo apt-get -u --reinstall --fix-missing install ttf-baekmuk
[06:34] <Warbo> shray: Install "gnome-art" then look in preferences (if you have Universe enabled)
[06:34] <Warbo> shray: also check out www.gnome-look.org
[06:34] <gwkw> agent bob: i will try that.. thx!
[06:34] <shray> whats the command to install flash ?
[06:34] <shray> apt-get install ?
[06:34] <shray> er the name of the deb
[06:34] <slavik> use synpatic
[06:34] <Agent_bob> !info ttf-baekmuk
[06:34] <ubotu> ttf-baekmuk: (Baekmuk series TrueType fonts), section x11, is optional. Version: 2.2-1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 11235 kB, Installed size: 28060 kB
[06:34] <BBHoss> i need some help with bash scripting.  Anyone good here please pm me
[06:35] <Agent_bob> just checking the package name......
[06:35] <Warbo> BBHoss: ask saik0 lol
[06:35] <Agent_bob> BBHoss what ya need?
[06:35] <saik0> Warbo, haha
[06:35] <morka> hmm
[06:35] <saik0> Is there any way to make apt-get ignore deps?
[06:36] <gwkw> agent bob: this is what happen..gwkw@ubuntuG:~$ sudo apt-get -u --reinstall --fix-missing install ttf-baekmuk
[06:36] <gwkw> Reading package lists... Done
[06:36] <gwkw> Building dependency tree... Done
[06:36] <gwkw> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 reinstalled, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[06:36] <gwkw> Need to get 0B/11.5MB of archives.
[06:36] <gwkw> After unpacking 0B of additional disk space will be used.
[06:36] <Warbo> saik0: "--ignore-missing" ?
[06:36] <gwkw> Do you want to continue [Y/n] ? y
[06:36] <tonyyarusso> Does anyone understand https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LircHowTo?  I'm a bit lost.
[06:36] <gwkw> Preconfiguring packages ...
[06:36] <gwkw> (Reading database ...
[06:36] <gwkw> dpkg: serious warning: files list file for package `ttf-baekmuk' missing, assuming package has no files currently installed.
[06:36] <gwkw> 70454 files and directories currently installed.)
[06:36] <gwkw> Preparing to replace ttf-baekmuk 2.2-1ubuntu1 (using .../ttf-baekmuk_2.2-1ubuntu1_all.deb) ...
[06:36] <gwkw> Unpacking replacement ttf-baekmuk ...
[06:36] <gwkw> Setting up ttf-baekmuk (2.2-1ubuntu1) ...
[06:36] <gwkw> /etc/defoma/hints/ttf-baekmuk.hints: Unable to open, or empty.
[06:36] <gwkw> dpkg: error processing ttf-baekmuk (--configure):
[06:36] <gwkw>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[06:36] <gwkw> Errors were encountered while processing:
[06:36] <gwkw>  ttf-baekmuk
[06:36] <gwkw> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[06:36] <gwkw> oppss.. sorry guys..
[06:36] <saik0> !paste
[06:36] <ubotu> Please don't flood the channel! For best results use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and tell people the URL
[06:36] <gwkw> !paste?
[06:36] <ubotu> Please don't flood the channel! For best results use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and tell people the URL
[06:36] <blindx> What's the command-line command to list processes?
[06:37] <BBHoss> ps aux
[06:37] <saik0> Warbo, no that does something entirely different
[06:37] <BBHoss> i'm writing a script to install rockbox in linux
[06:37] <Warbo> saik0: Oh. Thought so, and I've just looked through the man.
[06:37] <BBHoss> keep getting errors
[06:37] <BBHoss> http://pastebin.com/662569
[06:37] <Agent_bob> BBHoss yea looking .
[06:38] <Agent_bob> BBHoss give me a sec on this.
[06:38] <Warbo> saik0: You could turn on the download only option and use "dpkg -i --force-all" inside /var/cache/apt/archives
[06:38] <BBHoss> ': not a valid identifierad: `
[06:38] <BBHoss> is one
[06:38] <saik0> Warbo, thats exactly what i was thinking
[06:39] <saik0> Warbo, gives me the same dep error with download only!
[06:39] <gwkw> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12373 for anyone who can help.. pls read this.. thanks!!
[06:40] <saik0> E: Package gnomemeeting has no installation candidate
[06:40] <saik0> (because it's dapper)
[06:40] <Warbo> saik0: Ah. So it's not just that you don't WANT the dependancies installed.
[06:40] <dibblego> I just got the latest dapper updates and my cursor is doing some really odd things
[06:41] <BBHoss> gwkw: try getting the package manually and then use dpkg to install it
[06:41] <Warbo> saik0: Are you mixing repositories?
[06:41] <Agent_bob> BBHoss type "help read "    you are not using an identifier that read can translate.
[06:41] <saik0> Warbo, how could reinstalling every package produce any dep errors, sheesh!
[06:41] <Agent_bob> BBHoss or help read | less   even
[06:42] <Warbo> saik0: Simple. Probably the same reason you need to reinstall your entire system
[06:42] <gwkw> BBhoss: you mean from google searching for ttf-beakmuk?
[06:42] <saik0> Warbo, nope. thats was because of fs corruption on /
[06:42] <Chameleon22> anyone knows how to convert dvd to divx on ubuntu ?
[06:42] <Agent_bob> BBHoss it's a simple syntax error.
[06:42] <smerity_> can anyone remember the name of the Gnome 2 Open office quickstarter package
[06:43] <Warbo> saik0: Oh. Maybe gnomemeeting downloaded but corrupted... No.
[06:43] <Agent_bob> read -p 'prompt message ' VERIABLE
[06:43] <gwkw> syntax error.. meaning i type something wrong?
[06:43] <saik0> Warbo, gnomemeeting does'nt exist, in GNOME 2.14 it was renamed to ekiga
[06:43] <Warbo> saik0: I know, I know (I use Dapper at home). It was a joke. Geez.
[06:44] <Agent_bob> gwkw i wasn't addressing you but yes  syntax error means something is typed wrong.
[06:44] <saik0> Warbo, what I need to know is what package refers to it thats being reinstalled...
[06:44] <fiendskull9> hey
[06:44] <fiendskull9> how do i disable my firewall?
[06:44] <gwkw> ok.. let me recheck , cheers
[06:45] <Warbo> saik0: Maybe something like "libgnomemeeting" or something along those lines, like the VoIP protocol libraries?
[06:45] <Warbo> fiendskull9: AFAIK you don't have one
[06:45] <fiendskull9> Warbo, afaik?
[06:46] <Warbo> As Far As I Know
[06:46] <fiendskull9> because i cant telnet into my friends comp
[06:46] <saik0> Warbo, what does dpkg mean when it says "refers" thats so vauge. I would assume that mean something depends on "gnomemetting" but ekiga provides gnomemeeting and dpkg is'nt getting it
[06:46] <fiendskull9> and its direct to modem, and default ubuntu install
[06:46] <saik0> Warbo, but I sure hate to assume
[06:47] <Warbo> fiendskull9: Is HIS computer running Ubuntu?
[06:47] <dli> fiendskull9, how did you start it? if you are sitting before the machine (not via ssh login), try "sudo iptables -F"
[06:47] <fiendskull9> Warbo, yes, we both are
[06:47] <Warbo> saik0: makes an ass out of you and me
[06:47] <saik0> !language
[06:47] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[06:47] <saik0> =P
[06:47] <dli> fiendskull9, use ssh, instead of telnet
[06:47] <Apostle^> would a wireless usb headset/microphone work with ubuntu?
[06:47] <blindx> anyone know what port the Remote Desktop runs on?
[06:47] <Agent_bob> BBHoss also of note   lines like   if yesno=no    will error out  the syntax is   if [ "$yesno" = "no" ]  ;then
[06:47] <Warbo> fiendskull9: I thought Ubuntu didn't come with a firewall, as it has no ports open by default
[06:47] <crimsun> Apostle^: yes
[06:47] <fiendskull9> Apostle^, yes, ive had good luck with them
[06:47] <Apostle^> fiendskull9: what brand?
[06:48] <Apostle^> crimsun: thanks :-)
[06:48] <fiendskull9> how do i open ports then?
[06:48] <Warbo> blindx: VNC or something else?
[06:48] <fiendskull9> Apostle^, Logitech
[06:48] <blindx> VNC
[06:48] <dli> fiendskull9, install the daemon, example, "sudo apt-get install openssh-server"
[06:48] <Warbo> blindx: Sorry, I don't actually know!
[06:48] <blindx> lmfao
[06:48] <saik0> !tell blindx about language
[06:49] <Warbo> fiendskull9: Is telnet installed? It usually isn't (as it's the most secure protocol ever invented)
[06:49] <saik0> bwahaha
[06:49] <fiendskull9> dli, then just ssh <his ip>?
[06:49] <blindx> tell saik0 about being dumb :P
[06:49] <saik0> blindx, touche
[06:49] <dli> fiendskull9, you need an account there, and make sure /etc/init.d/ssh is started there
[06:49] <fiendskull9> dli, what do i do after installing ssh server fr him.
[06:50] <Apostle^> fiendskull9: what model # if you don't mind
[06:50] <dli> fiendskull9, openssh-server on his machine, not yours
[06:50] <hellz_hunter> what is a good gnome cd burning application?
[06:50] <fiendskull9> Apostle^, 350
[06:50] <fiendskull9> dli, i know.
[06:50] <Warbo> hellz_humter: Nautilus, then gnomebaker
[06:50] <blindx> hellz_hunter, k3b works great
[06:50] <blindx> of course, it's "k" but it works on gnome
[06:50] <hellz_hunter> nothing kde based
[06:50] <blindx> oh.
[06:50] <Apostle^> fiendskull9: but thats not wireless
[06:50] <blindx> alright
[06:52] <fiendskull9> dli, why cant i use his account?
[06:52] <Apostle^> woulda bluetooth plantronics headset work with ubuntu?
[06:52] <Warbo> hellz_hunter: Nautilus should ask what you want to do when you insert a blank disc, if it is rw and not blank then go into the Go > CD/DVD creator or finally if you want to burn an iso then right click on it and select Burn To Disc
[06:53] <Agent_bob> BBHoss then end    is not a valid command either.
[06:53] <fiendskull9> dli, he told me his password, so could i ssh to his account. or does it have to be in a bare session
[06:53] <Warbo> I'm off for a bit
[06:53] <Agent_bob> BBHoss i think you wanted then exit
[06:55] <Apostle^> woulda bluetooth plantronics headset work with ubuntu?
[06:55] <BBHoss> no luck
[06:55] <Agent_bob> BBHoss change the first read statement to     read device
[06:56] <fiendskull9> dli, please dont leave me hanging, he has this project due in 8 hours, and needs it on his comp.
[06:56] <Doomhammer> what command can I use to find out what type of processor is in a system ?
[06:57] <Agent_bob> BBHoss no the one that says read "$device"
[06:57] <WoC> Doomhammer, cat /proc/cpuinfo
[06:57] <Doomhammer> WoC: ah thanks :)
[06:57] <WoC> np
[06:58] <Agent_bob> BBHoss the one that says read "$choice"  needs to say   read choice
[06:58] <skpl> is there a way to remove dirs that have files in them?
[06:58] <harisund> skpl: If you are ure you want to do that, rm -rf
[06:58] <WoC> skpl, rm -rf <dir>
[06:58] <harisund> skpl: The -f forces a directory to be removed, while the -r tells rm that it is a directory (recursive remove)
[06:58] <WarOfAttrition> I have a tablet and when I try to draw on gimp, it freezes the cursor and the window. Any ideas on a fix?
[06:59] <Agent_bob> BBHoss it's the syntax that is bad....     you are putting empty veriables in as veriable identifiers.....     i.e.   set  "what ever $this is"   to what ever they input....  the system cant do that.
[07:00] <skpl> does anyone recognise the dir /dev/.static as anything important? i think my machine has been infected by a trojan
[07:00] <Agent_bob> BBHoss simply because $this in that case is not set.
[07:00] <crimsun> skpl: it's normal for Breezy.
[07:00] <skpl> i am using dapper
[07:00] <Agent_bob> BBHoss make sense ?
[07:00] <skpl> should i remove it?
[07:00] <saik0> Is there any way to list all installed packages?
[07:00] <crimsun> skpl: it's normal for Dapper, too.
[07:01] <harisund> saik0: dpkg --list
[07:01] <Agent_bob> skpl yes /dev/.static is important.
[07:01] <harisund> saik0 Be prepared for a shock though.  The list is *huge*
[07:01] <mustard5> harisund, thats a handy command :)
[07:01] <skpl> after running a trojan scanner i was told to inspect that dir, what should i be looking for?
[07:01] <Agent_bob> BBHoss yes.   and that's what i'm trying to help you with.
[07:01] <wil_> help please with package installation -- get error -status needs at least one package name argument
[07:01] <saik0> harisund, No thats all packages, not only installed ones
[07:02] <mustard5> skpl, its probably a false positive
[07:02] <skpl> ok
[07:02] <harisund> saik0: oh then pipe it to "grep ^ii"
[07:02] <WarOfAttrition> a linux trojan?????
[07:02] <mustard5> skpl, I'm pretty sure I get the same message with rkhunter
[07:02] <Agent_bob> yeah BBHoss there are lots of errors in that script.  if you give me a few more minutes, i'll clean it up and post it back to you.
[07:02] <skpl> mustard5, yes that is what i used
[07:02] <saik0> harisund, then it prints nothing
[07:02] <BBHoss> ok thanks
[07:03] <mustard5> skpl, yeah..I doubt we both have the same trojan ;)
[07:03] <gwkw> guys, i was just wondering how can you obtain superuser privilege.
[07:03] <gwkw> ?
[07:03] <harisund> saik0: dpkg --list | grep "^ii" was what you tried?
[07:03] <saik0> gwkw, sudo command
[07:03] <harisund> !tell gwkw about sudo
[07:03] <saik0> harisund, sou said "grep ^ii" =\
[07:03] <harisund> saik0: Any luck running the command I gave you? It just worked on my machine
[07:04] <mustard5> gwkw, can I enquire as to why you don't have them now?
[07:04] <harisund> saik0: Yes, I meant pipe the output to dpkg --list to grep.
[07:04] <harisund> mustard5: dpkg can do some really deadly things.
[07:04] <saik0> harisund, put quotes in the wrong place. yea it works
[07:04] <mustard5> harisund, I was looking for something like that the other day..and I must have missed it while reading the man dpkg
[07:04] <harisund> mustard5: If you want to know what package a particular file came from, you can do that too.
[07:05] <harisund> saik0: Glad it worked.
[07:05] <gwkw> mustard5 : oh.. cause i forget to put  $sudo infront of my command line.. stupid me.. thanks all
[07:05] <mustard5> gwkw, k
[07:05] <harisund> mustard5: I use these 4 switches of dpkg all the time. --list, --listfiles, --search
[07:05] <saik0> harisund, now I need to figure out a way to get a list of only installed packages, no version number or info
[07:05] <WarOfAttrition> so does anyone know something about gimp, tablets and the locked window bug?
[07:05] <harisund> saik0: Ok hang on. I will let you know in a minute. (after testing it out)
[07:05] <mustard5> harisund, hmm..I'll play around with those :)
[07:06] <harisund> Sure do mustard5, they come in real handy at imes.
[07:06] <gwkw> all: ttf-baekmuk is so frustrating.. can i just delete it?
[07:07] <harisund> saik0: How about this deadly pipe?
[07:09] <Agent_bob> BBHoss that should get you pointed in the right dirrection.    i haven't tested it so use it for a patern only.
[07:09] <gwkw> warbo: you were saying something about jre-1 , do you know how can we install that? thanks..
[07:09] <harisund> saik0: did it work?
[07:09] <gwkw> it a .bin file
[07:10] <saik0> harisund, did what work?!?
[07:10] <Agent_bob> BBHoss if that doesn't streighten out the errors.  then yell at me and i'll see what i can do.
[07:10] <harisund> saik0: What a fool am I, never gave you the command..
[07:10] <skpl> mustard5, the only problem is i am testing positive for a trojan when trying to connect to dalnet, what do you think?
[07:10] <Agent_bob> BBHoss and your welcome.
[07:10] <harisund> saik0: dpkg --list | grep "^ii" | perl -lane 'print $F[1] '
[07:10] <mustard5> skpl, what is giving you that indication?
[07:11] <saik0> harrisund, this might be easier to work with dpkg-query -W -f='${Package},${Status}\n' | grep installed
[07:11] <Drac[Server] > Okay. I need help. I really, really need help. I've spent four hours trying to get the nVidia drivers from their website to work because the Ubuntu packaged nvidia-glx-legacy driver doesn't output video acceleration for some reason. I've spent FOUR HOURS. I need an answer. HOW can I have video acceleration with my 32MB GeForce 2?
[07:11] <Agent_bob> harisund nice.... bash and perl mix   if you just throw a sed command in there now......  :)
[07:11] <skpl> mustard5, * Closing Link: 0.0.0.0 (You match the pattern of a known trojan, please check your system with a cleaner from http://www.moosoft.com or Swat-It from http://www.lockdowncorp.com/bots/downloadswatit.html)
[07:11] <harisund> saik0: Yes. Good idea (just that I didn't know about the dpkg-query command :D Thanks a ton.
[07:12] <skpl> mustard5, i got that when trying to connect to dalnet
[07:12] <harisund> Agent_bob: lol that. Let's see..how can we throw in a sed?
[07:12] <FlannelKing> Drac[Server] : did you enable the nvidia drivers from the command line after installing?
[07:12] <mustard5> skpl, are you connecting using a proxy?
[07:12] <saik0> harisund, yea, now tell me how to cut out everything after the comma. I suck at regexp
[07:12] <skpl> mustard5, no
[07:13] <mustard5> skpl, whats the dalnet server you are joining?
[07:13] <Drac[Server] > FlannelKing: Of course. I got the splash logo and everything upon restarting X. Everything seemed perfect. The only problem was that I was getting 400 FPS out of glxgears and my screensavers were lagging to hell.
[07:13] <mustard5> skpl, I'll try and see what it says
[07:13] <harisund> saik0: hang on. let me try the output of the command you gave me earlier.
[07:13] <skpl> mustard5, irc.dal.net
[07:13] <skpl> mustard5, what server should i use?
[07:13] <Agent_bob> hmmm  echo "blah" | tr 'hal' 'kca' | sed s/back/nothing/
[07:14] <harisund> Agent_bob: very funny :D
[07:14] <Agent_bob> lol
[07:14] <Agent_bob> is that the long way to say nothing ?
[07:15] <morka> Drac[Server] : what card?
[07:15] <harisund> Agent_bob: sorry no perl in my next command, but you got a SED !
[07:15] <Agent_bob> kind of a criptic hell-o world
[07:15] <harisund> saik0: here you go : dpkg-query -W -f='${Package},${status}\n' | grep installed | sed -e 's/,install ok installed//g'
[07:15] <anti_social> hey Drac
[07:15] <anti_social> access this link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia ...
[07:16] <saik0> harisund woooohoooooo
[07:16] <Agent_bob> harisund sure....   i like.
[07:16] <harisund> saik0: I am really not able to think of a better hack, but the sed command simply substitutes everything after the comma with a blank space. Neat, heh?
[07:16] <bartel> hi, I just upgraded from breezy to dapper on my laptop and now my trackpad doesn't work. Anyone have any ideas???
[07:16] <anti_social> i faced some problems with my TNT2 32mb model 64...
[07:16] <harisund> Wow, I have never had this much fun since I was a kid. Thanks Agent_bob and saik0
[07:16] <mustard5> skpl, I can't even connect to that server
[07:16] <mustard5> skpl, I get couldn't look up hostname
[07:16] <pierre-> how can i cemove "^m"'s from my windows text files?
[07:16] <Drac[Server] > Hey, anti_social. I'm not a newbie. I know what I'm doing. For your information, I followed that guide word for word. Everything went smoothly. The drivers installed. They run. The problem is that they don't work properly.
[07:16] <anti_social> they were solved when i followed the steps i've found there...
[07:16] <pierre-> *remove
[07:17] <saik0> harisund, huzzah for collaboration
[07:17] <Agent_bob> harisund one problem tho    dpkg-query: unknown option -f
[07:17] <harisund> Agent_bob: Don't ask me, dpkg-query was saik0's idea. Anyway, it worked for me? Hang on .. let me try it again.
[07:17] <anti_social> hey, i was just trying to help you...
[07:17] <FlannelKing> Drac[Server] : 400fps, that sounds acellerated to me.
[07:17] <HP_Owner> anti_social isn't ubuntu+1 buzzing with activity?
[07:17] <saik0> Agent_bob, you need a -W in there
[07:17] <skpl> mustard5, try maple.ix.ca.dal.net
[07:17] <lucos> Hi, I'm trying to compile something, and i'm getting some errors when running ./configure. It says i don't have gawk or mawk... how can i fix this?
[07:17] <skpl> mustard5, see what happens
[07:18] <Drac[Server] > anti_social: Sorry... Remember. I've been at this for four hours or so.
[07:18] <FlannelKing> Drac[Server] : I believe without the accel stuff, you get double digits, tops.
[07:18] <Warbo> Drac: Sorry, I've just entred. Is this nvidia drivers? What installation method?
[07:18] <Agent_bob> saik0 it's there.
[07:18] <saik0> Agent_bob, what are you executing?
[07:18] <bartel> hi, I just upgraded from breezy to dapper on my laptop and now my trackpad doesn't work. Anyone have any ideas???
[07:18] <harisund> Agent_bob: -W does the showing part. -f involves the formatting, so you can't just have -f, you will need -f="whatever format you awnt"
[07:18] <Agent_bob> tty22 [greg$~]   dpkg-query -W -f='${Package},${status}\n' |  grep installed | sed -e 's/,install ok installed//g'
[07:18] <Agent_bob> dpkg-query: unknown option -f
[07:18] <d51ble> anyone here wat 2 help me with printing problem?
[07:18] <saik0> !tell bartel about dapper
[07:18] <Warbo> bartel: It sounds like a problem in Xorg.
[07:19] <Agent_bob> saik0 i just tested harisund's string.
[07:19] <mustard5> skpl, trying the new one now,,but the last one kept giving errors about wanting me to 'ident'
[07:19] <harisund> Agent_bob I believe you need double quotes after -f. Just try with double quotes once.
[07:19] <Drac[Server] > FlannelKing: On a 32MB GeForce 2? I would expect more than that...
[07:19] <saik0> Agent_bob, oh...well....I have no idea
[07:19] <d51ble> want to help me with printing problem?
[07:19] <harisund> Agent_bob: Actually what you typed worked for me?
[07:19] <FlannelKing> Drac[Server] : actually, I've got a 32Geforce in the other room... let me boot it up and see.
[07:19] <mustard5> skpl, same thing again..it keeps killing my connection and not letting me join
[07:19] <sonicjam> hey guys
[07:20] <saik0> harisund and Agent_bob: The final product - dpkg-query -W -f='${Package},${status}\n' | grep installed | sed -e 's/,install ok installed//g' | xargs sudo apt-get install --reinstall
[07:20] <mustard5> skpl, maybe you should read there website (if they have one) and see what the issue might be
[07:20] <Agent_bob> harisund the -f switch is not supported in the version of dpkg-quary i have.  it may be in yours.
[07:20] <Drac[Server] > FlannelKing: Is it a GeForce 2?
[07:20] <harisund> saik0: Ultimate ! Woooohoo ! And hey, if you want to count the number of packages, throw in a  "| wc -l|" in the end.
[07:20] <d51ble> hey guys, want to help me with printing problem?
[07:21] <harisund> Agent_bob I am really surprised. If you want, try man dpkg-query and hit / (to search) and type -f and it should show where -f comes in the page.
[07:21] <FlannelKing> Drac[Server] : aye.  Gets 32fps without accell and 350 with.  One must remember that glxgears is NOT a benchmark tool
[07:21] <saik0> harisund, it still didnt work though!
[07:21] <harisund> saik0: Hang on. Let me recheck
[07:21] <sonicjam> is there any good program for linux that i can mess around with
[07:21] <Warbo> sonicjam: XGL :)
[07:21] <lucos> What is mawk/gawk and where can i get it?
[07:21] <sonicjam> yeah
[07:21] <harisund> saik0: You might need to throw in a -y in your apt-get statement
[07:22] <saik0> harisund we messed up somewhere, amarok was in there and I know it's not installed
[07:22] <Drac[Server] > FlannelKing: My screensavers lag.
[07:22] <mustard5> skpl, Closing Link: 0.0.0.0 ([AKILL ID:1044655424K-a]  [exp/identd]  IRC clients from your domain are required to respond to identd requests in order to connect to DALnet. Send email to exploits@dal.net with [exp/ident]  as the subject for more information. (2006/04/10 16.25))
[07:22] <harisund> saik0: Ouch. That sounds bad. Hang on.
[07:22] <polpak> arg.. tell me there's someone in here who knows something about X .. It is seriously the bane of my existance
[07:22] <Agent_bob> harisund i just told you it is not supported in dpkg-query   what ever version i have.
[07:22] <skpl> mustard5, yeah i think it is because you do not have an identd server
[07:23] <polpak> specifically resolution and refresh rates
[07:23] <harisund> Agent_bob: Oh well. Can;t help you out there then :-(
[07:23] <Agent_bob> --version gives a paragraph but no version info
[07:23] <Warbo> polpak: Do you know your monitor details?
[07:23] <mustard5> skpl, I wonder whether its dalnet getting false positive for an exploit
[07:23] <TeamCanada|Silen> hello
[07:23] <TeamCanada|Silen> I would like to get some help with installing ubutnu
[07:23] <polpak> Warbo, it's a TV, so no
[07:23] <mustard5> skpl, I doubt the issue is on your end
[07:23] <Warbo> polpak: Ah. Same problem as me then!
[07:23] <TeamCanada|Silen> I fail at installing Ubuntu, please help! >_<
[07:24] <Warbo> TeamCanada|Silen: What happens?
[07:24] <anti_social> hey Drac, did the nvidia splash screen appeared to you when you installed the drivers?
[07:24] <mustard5> TeamCanada|Silen, what part are you failing at?
[07:24] <Agent_bob> harisund BBHoss you guys have a good one,  i'm out of here.
[07:24] <harisund> saik0: The only thing I am able to think of for debugging is going back to the original stage. First, let's ensure amorak is installed sing "dpkg --list amorak"
[07:24] <saik0> harisund, ok....who the hell installed amarok =\
[07:24] <harisund> Agent_bob: Thanks bob ! See ya around later !
[07:24] <polpak> Warbo, booting w/o X works fine. I can see the console, etc. But X just pitches a fit whenever I try to start it
[07:24] <BBHoss> thanks
[07:24] <FlannelKing> Drac[Server] : gnome screensavers aren't... well, they do lag.  lots of rendering.  not good screensavers.
[07:24] <TeamCanada|Silen> I burned the iso to cd and booted it up... and it stops at installing the base system
[07:24] <sonicjam> is there a good game for linux
[07:24] <polpak> sonicjam, several
[07:25] <Warbo> TeamCanada|Silen: Did you check the hash of the iso and CD? They may be corrupt
[07:25] <TeamCanada|Silen> armegatron
[07:25] <Drac[Server] > FlannelKing: I see... How did you guess that I was on Dapper? :P
[07:25] <polpak> sonicjam, what kind of game?
[07:25] <harisund> saik0:  What did you say the problem was exactly?
[07:25] <Warbo> sonicjam: Gish, though it's not free
[07:25] <TeamCanada|Silen> the hash is fine
[07:25] <sonicjam> first person
[07:25] <TeamCanada|Silen> checked
[07:25] <saik0> harisund, nothing is wrong with the pipeline
[07:25] <sonicjam> shooter
[07:25] <TeamCanada|Silen> burnt cd at 32x
[07:25] <saik0> harisund, but I'm having some dependency problems
[07:25] <TeamCanada|Silen> no errors
[07:26] <TeamCanada|Silen> with the burnerXP pro dealie
[07:26] <polpak> sonicjam, UT2k4, Quake, Savage, those are all the commerciially available ones. Then there's Cube, and a few other free ones
[07:26] <Warbo> TeamCanada|Silen: What version? Breezy (5.10) or Dapper (6.04)?
[07:26] <gwkw> bye all.. reboot.. and see whehter it helps
[07:26] <TeamCanada|Silen> breezy
[07:26] <sonicjam> cube hmm i'm going to search
[07:26] <sonicjam> unless you got the link
[07:26] <ozzloy> i have a firefox flash sound issue.  it won't play sound if something else has already played sound
[07:26] <harisund> saik0: Just check with the man page of dpkg and look for something called dpkg --get-selections >myselections
[07:26] <polpak> sonicjam, one sec
[07:26] <Drac[Server] > sonicjam: www.cubeengine.com
[07:26] <harisund> That may be all that you want really.
[07:27] <TeamCanada|Silen> it goes through partitioning and everything... then starts installing the base system then stops in the middle of it
[07:27] <ozzloy> i fixed it with bmp and gaim by making them use alsa.  how do i make the flash plugin use alsa?
[07:27] <mustard5> TeamCanada|Silen, is your system sitting on a fairly level surface?
[07:27] <sonicjam> ok thnx
[07:27] <harisund> And (saik0) everything we have done so far might be deemed unnecessary
[07:27] <TeamCanada|Silen> I've tried both my cd and the cd provided by Ubuntu (the mail order dealie)
[07:27] <crimsun> ozzloy: known issue. Either create the nasty libesd.so.1 symlink, or use aoss firefox.
[07:27] <Warbo> TeamCanada|Silen: OK, do you know your drive is OK? (In fact I found it worked around some corruption once)
[07:27] <TeamCanada|Silen> perfectly flat
[07:27] <harisund> saik0: I think that is exactly what you want. Look for --get-selections and --set-selections in the dpkg man page.
[07:27] <ozzloy> crimsun: tried the symlink, no dice
[07:27] <TeamCanada|Silen> I've installed Damn Small Linux and no probs
[07:27] <polpak> sonicjam, all these FPS games run natively on linux   http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/FPS_Games
[07:27] <ozzloy> crimsun: also tried editing the /etc/mozilla-firerox/firefoxrc
[07:27] <TeamCanada|Silen> but DSL is kinda crappy
[07:27] <Drac[Server] > sonicjam: To get it to run by simply typing "cube" I had to do all sorts of fancy scripting. For the average user, one has to cd to the cube directory, then run ./bin/linux_client, possibly after chmod +x'ing it.
[07:28] <lucos> Can someone help me compile something really simple? I'm trying to compile nano, just to learn how, and I'm needing some help.
[07:28] <Warbo> TeamCanada|Silen: Stupid question, but is there enough room?
[07:29] <TeamCanada|Silen> 80gb on hda 80 on hdb... I sure hope so ^^
[07:29] <sonicjam> ok
[07:29] <harisund> saik0: What happened?
[07:29] <Warbo> TeamCanada|Silen: Oh, you'll miss out on all of the extra features :)
[07:29] <crimsun> lucos: sudo apt-get build-dep nano && sudo apt-get install fakeroot && fakeroot apt-get source -b nano
[07:29] <saik0> harisund, reaming man
[07:29] <saik0> harisund, AHAHAHAhaha
[07:29] <TeamCanada|Silen> extra features?
[07:29] <harisund> saik0: cool go ahea.d
[07:30] <saik0> harisund, i meant READing man
[07:30] <Warbo> TeamCanada|Silen: Joke (Ubuntu doesn't take 160GB!)
[07:30] <TeamCanada|Silen> I just want it to install ;P
[07:30] <TeamCanada|Silen> hehe
[07:30] <harisund> saik0: What happened? Why the sudden display of emotion?
[07:30] <lucos> Crimsun; I've downloaded the souces, it's trying to run ./configure is what i need help on
[07:30] <TeamCanada|Silen> DSL only takes 50mb :S
[07:30] <TeamCanada|Silen> ;P
[07:30] <crimsun> lucos: ...I just gave the instructions. Take a look at the build-dep step.
[07:30] <saik0> harisund, I said "reaming man" funny typo
[07:30] <ozzloy> firefox flash sound not working.  tried symlink and editing the rc.  any other suggestions?
[07:30] <hellz_hunter> just wanted to come on here and say i love ubuntu
[07:30] <crimsun> ozzloy: did you read the second suggestion I made?
[07:30] <Warbo> lucos: do you have all of the needed compilers, etc.?
[07:30] <ozzloy> crimsun: oh i missed it
[07:31] <lucos> Warbo, i have no idea. I have GCC and gawk/mawk installed.
[07:31] <skpl> can someone tell me how to find out what dir my firefox browser is installed in?
[07:31] <ozzloy> crimsun: oh the aoss
[07:31] <Warbo> lucos: try installing "build-essential"
[07:31] <hellz_hunter> i just need help with one last thing, how do i make it so that everytime i start ubuntu, xchat will start on desktop 2
[07:31] <ozzloy> i'll try that thanks crimsun
[07:31] <tonyyarusso> TeamCanada|Silen: A default install of Ubuntu is ~2.1GB, server is smaller of course, just as a starting reference.
[07:31] <TeamCanada|Silen> I love ubuntu too... but that's only because the CD looks tight... I really haven't gotten to the OS yet hehe
[07:31] <lucos> When i try to run ./configure, i get this error: checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... no
[07:31] <main123> man.
[07:31] <main123> ive just tried ubuntu in vmware
[07:31] <Warbo> hellz_hunter: Well if you weere on E16 I could help you
[07:31] <TeamCanada|Silen> I tried both server and default install
[07:31] <main123> and its faster than native install
[07:31] <TeamCanada|Silen> should I try the live cd?
[07:31] <main123> wtf is going on
[07:31] <orbin> skpl: 1.0.7?
[07:31] <TeamCanada|Silen> see what happens?
[07:32] <skpl> orbin, i.5.0.1
[07:32] <Warbo> TeamCanada|Silen: may as well. But it doesn't have the Espresso installer on it (only on Dapper)
[07:32] <orbin> skpl: what are you looking for?
[07:32] <TeamCanada|Silen> k
[07:32] <TeamCanada|Silen> want my specs?
[07:32] <orbin> skpl: maybe do a dpkg -L <firefoxpackage>
[07:32] <cyphase> there needs to be a laptop design that's associated with linux
[07:33] <TeamCanada|Silen> any laptop?
[07:33] <cyphase> or brand, or something
[07:33] <ozzloy> crimsun: alsa-oss is the same thing, right?
[07:33] <TeamCanada|Silen> any laptop?
[07:33] <TeamCanada|Silen> ;P
[07:33] <skpl> orbin, im trying to do this: # Go to the plugins sub-directory under the Mozilla installation directory
[07:33] <skpl> cd <Mozilla installation directory>/plugins
[07:33] <TeamCanada|Silen> any laptop has the capability
[07:33] <Warbo> TeamCanada|Silen: Go on. There isn't any crazy external thingimajigs or anything is there?
[07:33] <cyphase> i mean, if you see an Apple laptop, you assume it's running OS X
[07:33] <cyphase> if you see any other laptop, you assume Windows
[07:33] <TeamCanada|Silen> only 5000000 USB devices
[07:33] <tonyyarusso> cyphase: I have an IBM/Lenovo T43, and you know how friendly IBM has been to Linux lately :)
[07:33] <skpl> orbin, i do not know where my plugins dir is
[07:33] <TeamCanada|Silen> : /
[07:33] <TeamCanada|Silen> jk
[07:33] <orbin> skpl: url for what you're doing?
[07:33] <TeamCanada|Silen> PS2 mouse/keyboard/lcd monitor
[07:34] <skpl> orbin, http://www.java.com/en/download/help/5000010500.xml#enable
[07:34] <tonyyarusso> cyphase: Plus there's the $100 laptop project of course.
[07:34] <ozzloy> crimsun: never mind, i got it.  thanx again
[07:34] <Warbo> TeamCanada|Silen: Great, they're the important bits (sorry)
[07:34] <TeamCanada|Silen> when I see a laptop I reach in my pocket.. for my live cd O_O
[07:34] <cyphase> tonyyarusso, that's not for general use
[07:34] <cyphase> i mean..
[07:34] <orbin> ubotu: tell skpl about java
[07:34] <skpl> orbin, thank you
[07:34] <cyphase> that's not at the same level as a "real" laptop
[07:34] <orbin> skpl: it's best to use the official ubuntu wiki over any other sources for installing
[07:35] <cyphase> whenever you see a laptop, you assume either OS X or windows, even though they can all run linux
[07:35] <ozzloy> firefox flash sound not working.  tried symlink, editing the rc, and aoss.  any other suggestions?
[07:35] <TeamCanada|Silen> cyphase... There is no laptop... er spoon
[07:35] <Warbo> cyphase: a 500MHz processor, which I think is MIPS, and PS2 has about 200MHz MIPS? Quite a machine (because everything is based on clock speed)
[07:35] <cyphase> even if it was just a linux logo or something
[07:35] <tonyyarusso> cyphase: Maybe you do; I don't.
[07:35] <polpak> cyphase, my laptops are only running linux..
[07:35] <TeamCanada|Silen> Warbo.. btw
[07:35] <TeamCanada|Silen> amd k6 333mhz
[07:36] <TeamCanada|Silen> 356mb ram
[07:36] <TeamCanada|Silen> 256*
[07:36] <cyphase> tonyyarusso, not *me*
[07:36] <cyphase> but most people
[07:36] <skpl> orbin, i got this error, E: Couldn't find package java-package can you help?
[07:36] <Warbo> TeamCanada|Silen: Hmmm. 333 is a little slow, but I don't see any reson for it to fail
[07:36] <cyphase> polpak, i'm not talking about us geeks
[07:36] <cyphase> :)
[07:36] <patrick24601> geek here!
[07:36] <TeamCanada|Silen> I just need a speedy little Samba server, what do you think I should do?
[07:37] <patrick24601> smb
[07:37] <TeamCanada|Silen> ?
[07:37] <TeamCanada|Silen> o_O
[07:37] <Warbo> TeamCanada|Silen: For just a server try regular Debian
[07:37] <TeamCanada|Silen> ok... how do I do that?
[07:37] <TeamCanada|Silen> (link)
[07:37] <polpak> cyphase, my father in law is using linux on his laptop. And he's not a geek
[07:37] <brandon_> or fedora, sicne they've been in the server game for awhile, they've gotten rather good at it
[07:37] <TeamCanada|Silen> well... linux > all
[07:37] <cyphase> polpak, i didn't say only geeks use linux
[07:37] <polpak> cyphase, I just told him I wouldn't do support for windows computers anymore
[07:37] <Warbo> TeamCanada|Silen: Well, I think DSL can install a normal Debian system (enable gnu and apt, then install (not frugal))
[07:38] <TeamCanada|Silen> the DSl did install debian
[07:38] <saik0> cyphase, my grandmother and little sister ubuntu
[07:38] <TeamCanada|Silen> and samba is running
[07:38] <Warbo> TeamCanada|Silen: And the problem is...?
[07:38] <TeamCanada|Silen> but its just really ugly
[07:38] <tonyyarusso> TeamCanada|Silen: I set up Samba in Ubuntu once, but with a fair bit of hand-holding (I was only a few months into Linux), so don't use me as a reference for that (yet).
[07:38] <cyphase> saik0, i am not saying that "normal" people don't use linux
[07:38] <harisund> saik0: any luck?
[07:38] <Warbo> TeamCanada|Silen: Well on 333MHz it's not got flashy 3D powers
[07:38] <TeamCanada|Silen> yeah...
[07:38] <saik0> harisund, working on it...
[07:39] <harisund> cool
[07:39] <TeamCanada|Silen> is it possible to get a CLI distro to run samba?
[07:39] <fuji> i have a problem
[07:39] <cyphase> ...
[07:39] <cyphase> yes..
[07:39] <saik0> TeamCanada|Silen, very much so
[07:39] <TeamCanada|Silen> the GUI stuff takes away from my awesome 333mhz computing power
[07:39] <fuji> i installed ubuntu + kde but i want to switch to gnome how do i do it?
[07:39] <polpak> TeamCanada|Silen, you can just install "server" ubuntu, and add on from there...
[07:39] <Warbo> TeamCanada|Silen: Probably, but I don't know an excessive amount of CLI, and I've never used Samba
[07:39] <Warbo> polpak: Disn't work
[07:39] <Warbo> didn't
[07:39] <tonyyarusso> TeamCanada|Silen: I only did Samba from cli.
[07:39] <TeamCanada|Silen> and?
[07:40] <TeamCanada|Silen> was it godly?
[07:40] <brandon_> fuji: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[07:40] <saik0> TeamCanada|Silen, every distro is a CLI distro
[07:40] <TeamCanada|Silen> to a point
[07:40] <polpak> Warbo, why didn't it work?
[07:40] <TeamCanada|Silen> but I want CLI only
[07:40] <fuji> Brandon will i run into complications?
[07:40] <Warbo> polpak: Just saying, he tried installing regualr and server
[07:40] <TeamCanada|Silen> I've tried SuSE and it was a mess
[07:40] <TeamCanada|Silen> DSL is decent
[07:40] <tonyyarusso> TeamCanada|Silen: It worked well for what I needed it for.  (Transferring files over wireless to roommate.)
[07:40] <skpl> does anyone know where i can d/l the package java-package?
[07:40] <polpak> TeamCanada|Silen, why didn't server ubuntu work??
[07:41] <brandon_> fuji: apt is built to solve complications
[07:41] <saik0> TeamCanada|Silen, is it 686?
[07:41] <TeamCanada|Silen> can I set up file permissions... 686?
[07:41] <TeamCanada|Silen> without creating new users
[07:41] <Warbo> lol
[07:41] <saik0> TeamCanada|Silen architexture
[07:41] <TeamCanada|Silen> o_O
[07:41] <TeamCanada|Silen> AMD K-6
[07:41] <TeamCanada|Silen> no clue
[07:41] <brandon_> fuji: after you're finished installing, restart and at the login screen, change the session type to gnome
[07:41] <cyphase> can we start sending out Ubuntu stickers with CDs via ShipIt?
[07:41] <cyphase> :P
[07:42] <fuji> ok so i can switch between kde and gnome Brandon?
[07:42] <TeamCanada|Silen> I could go for an ubuntu hat
[07:42] <TeamCanada|Silen> ...
[07:42] <Warbo> cyphase: Do it yourself Ubuntu tattoos
[07:42] <bliss1_> hi folks Happy Easter
[07:42] <brandon_> fuji: certanily
[07:42] <cyphase> lol
[07:42] <fuji> kewl ty
[07:42] <cyphase> Ubuntu haircuts
[07:42] <brandon_> fuji: this is linux
[07:42] <fuji> i know
[07:42] <fuji> i am on xp though
[07:42] <TeamCanada|Silen> same
[07:42] <TeamCanada|Silen> xp ftw
[07:42] <fuji> i am running vmware
[07:42] <brandon_> fuji: i figured
[07:42] <bliss1_> DBO: is know as what?
[07:42] <tonyyarusso> TeamCanada|Silen: 686 file permission?  It only goes up to 7.
[07:42] <fuji> lol
[07:42] <saik0> TeamCanada|Silen, yes it's 686. If you're willing to read some documentation and learn a thing or two you can try archlinux. it's 686 optimized
[07:43] <PwcrLinux> Hello all :)
[07:43] <TeamCanada|Silen> sorry tony, i mixed two responses there..
[07:43] <TeamCanada|Silen> :S
[07:43] <fuji> i am in kubuntu now though
[07:43] <fuji> :p
[07:43] <Warbo> cyphase: Stick it on the fridge (the Ubuntu fridge, not your fridge) and someone'll do it
[07:44] <fuji> only reason why i keep xp is for gaming hard to configure on linux
[07:44] <TeamCanada|Silen> ok... maybe I should take this one step at a time. Where can I learn Linux?
[07:44] <TeamCanada|Silen> :P
[07:44] <Warbo> fuji: My thoughts about a year ago
[07:44] <brandon_> fuji: just get a console
[07:44] <fuji> lol
[07:44] <PwcrLinux> I wish have a ubuntu logo on my lappy back lid cover..
[07:44] <Warbo> fuji: Until even Doom 1 came up BSOD
[07:44] <fuji> Brandon i'll i'm getting revolution
[07:44] <fuji> i dont want xbox
[07:45] <Warbo> xbox is PC
[07:45] <brandon_> do you know that microsoft has lost $4 billion on xbox?
[07:45] <Warbo> with licencing costs
[07:45] <fuji> yes i know
[07:45] <fuji> i meant xbox 360
[07:45] <fuji> next gen console
[07:45] <Warbo> xbox360? Finally they use a newer processor... As soon as CELL is out.
[07:46] <tonyyarusso> TeamCanada|Silen: linux.org has some stuff, !cli is good, just sitting back and watching here, or (if you want to be like me), go around your system and bork some stuff (slightly unconventional way to learn, but hey).
[07:46] <[Chameleon] > PwcrLinux: make one
[07:46] <TeamCanada|Silen> bork?
[07:46] <fuji> bork?
[07:46] <TeamCanada|Silen> lol
[07:46] <cyphase> hmm
[07:46] <[Chameleon] > bork bork
[07:46] <cyphase> http://www.cafepress.com/ubuntushop
[07:46] <saik0> aw we almost said "bork bork bork"
[07:46] <fuji> assimilation?
[07:46] <TeamCanada|Silen> change/play with/destroy?
[07:46] <fuji> :O
[07:46] <TeamCanada|Silen> err
[07:46] <[Chameleon] > cyphase: good idea
[07:46] <TeamCanada|Silen> change
[07:46] <DeMoNSeED> bork, a technical term yet to be determined
[07:46] <tonyyarusso> Hey, don't make fun of my borking ;)
[07:47] <PwcrLinux> [Chameleon] : Hehe, I found some of lappy skins at some of websites.. it's good skin for a lappies
[07:47] <TeamCanada|Silen> borking is linux only
[07:47] <cyphase> [Chameleon] , it's not mine
[07:47] <sonicjam> hey i'm a proud xbox 360 owner
[07:47] <harisund> ok saik0: I got to be going now ! hope things work out for you.
[07:47] <[Chameleon] > cyphase: I know
[07:47] <TeamCanada|Silen> once you run linux for 2 years the linux gods give you the definition to "borl"
[07:47] <TeamCanada|Silen> tk
[07:47] <TeamCanada|Silen> k*
[07:47] <TeamCanada|Silen> >_<
[07:47] <[Chameleon] > LOL
[07:47] <[Chameleon] > you borked "bork"
[07:47] <Warbo> sonicjam: And you know when ms is going to licence Linux for 360?
[07:48] <fuji> is gnome aalot better than kde?
[07:48] <saik0> harisund, thanks for the sed help. somehow i think I'll never get sed and/or awk
[07:48] <[Chameleon] > fuji: YES
[07:48] <fuji> kewl
[07:48] <brandon_> no
[07:48] <sonicjam> no
[07:48] <TeamCanada|Silen> >.>
[07:48] <Warbo> fuji: They are sorta the same. I use GNOME, but I don't mind KDE
[07:48] <harisund> saik0: Oh eventually you will, especially if you have a need for it. Still, somehow I think dpkg --get-selection is indeed what you are looking for.
[07:48] <Warbo> sonicjam: I wonder
[07:48] <harisund> saik0: very well then .. have a great time playing around !
[07:48] <fuji> k i see
[07:48] <saik0> harisund, yep. and I'm trying to figure out sed, because i have a need for it =)
[07:49] <TeamCanada|Silen> I'm off to linux.org, wish me luck and at least 5 minutes of sanity
[07:49] <[Chameleon] > I'm equally proficient in each, but I find Gnome to be more visually appealing
[07:49] <harisund> saik0: ok all the best ! Good bye !
[07:49] <fuji> how do i get win osx?
[07:49] <saik0> harisund, bye
[07:49] <sonicjam> but this where i like linux almost every hack i seen right now linux was involved lol
[07:49] <[Chameleon] > I dislike the changes to Metacity for XGL though... too few features.
[07:49] <fuji> i want tto make the desktop look like mac osx
[07:49] <[Chameleon] > fuji: ahh... themes
[07:49] <fuji> yyyes
[07:49] <TeamCanada|Silen> why?
[07:49] <fuji> exactly
[07:49] <TeamCanada|Silen> why mac?
[07:49] <TeamCanada|Silen> make it look like windows
[07:49] <mDot> fuji gnome-look.org
[07:49] <TeamCanada|Silen> XD
[07:50] <Warbo> KDE seems to incorporate features and programs into each other (like Konqueror) but GNOME has 1 program for 1 task
[07:50] <fuji> ;'
[07:50] <[Chameleon] > fuji: try http://art.gnome.org
[07:50] <fuji> lol
[07:50] <fuji> k
[07:50] <fuji> ty
[07:50] <[Chameleon] > yw
[07:50] <sonicjam> i like mac those are cool well the intel based one with mac os 10
[07:50] <[Chameleon] > I wonder if I bought the ubuntu thong for my wife if she'd wear it... I doubt it. :-(
[07:50] <jlb> help,  I have three HDD's.  hda1--40GB ATA formated with FAT32.  sda--80GB SATA (sda1 and sda2, for linux and windows), and a 120GB SATA (sdb).  I need to mount the 40GB drive to access backup data.  What would be the process of adding that drive?
[07:50] <TeamCanada|Silen> is there a theme for windows 3.1, cause that would be pretty sweet!
[07:50] <[Chameleon] > I like MacOS.
[07:50] <DeMoNSeED> the thong remains the same
[07:50] <fuji> i wanttt ttto rrrun mac osx 7.5 on linux is it hard to configure?
[07:51] <TeamCanada|Silen> very
[07:51] <sonicjam> well i like any os
[07:51] <TeamCanada|Silen> well, i dont know
[07:51] <fuji> :(
[07:51] <Warbo> AAA!!! PowerPC forever! At least there will be more processors for all of those new Amigas that are obviously being brought out. :)
[07:51] <sonicjam> well cya
[07:51] <fuji> Amiga?
[07:51] <noiesmo> jlb,  mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 /mnt/point
[07:51] <Warbo> fuji: OMG you don't know Amiga?
[07:51] <fuji> can i emulate amiga aswell?
[07:51] <[Chameleon] > yeah
[07:51] <fuji> not really
[07:51] <fuji> Amiga is new to me
[07:52] <fuji> heard bout it never seen it
[07:52] <PwcrLinux> I've see amiga sysops runs a BBS system
[07:52] <Warbo> fuji: Badly! I can't get a decent 14MHz Amiga emulated on my 2000MHz AMD! They are that good!
[07:52] <DrBanzai> Anybody in here real familiar with amorok?  Mine won't play a single file.
[07:52] <shreevatsa> what is Amiga?
[07:52] <fuji> lol
[07:52] <shreevatsa> DrBanzai: Maybe it doesn't have mp3 support
[07:52] <mDot> DrBanzai mostly, whats up?
[07:52] <Warbo> DrBanzai: Does it load them into a playlist?
[07:52] <jlb> DrBanzai:  What kind of files are you looking to play?
[07:52] <[Chameleon] > Amiga was amazingly capable for the hardware it ran on.
[07:52] <orbin> skpl: make sure you have universe enabled
[07:52] <TeamCanada|Silen> warbo, I'm trying the install again, get more info on the error
[07:53] <fuji> wow thats a big download that ubuntu-desktop :o
[07:53] <Warbo> TeamCanada|Silen: OK
[07:53] <[Chameleon] > fuji: probably because of its dependenciees
[07:53] <DrBanzai> Wow!  Ok, Yes, it loads then into a playlist, but when I click play, nothing seems to happen.  No sound from the speakers, and no indication that the file is playing, and yes, they are MP3s
[07:53] <orbin> fuji: how big was the d/load?
[07:53] <fuji> is redhat any good?
[07:53] <TeamCanada|Silen> is it possible to get a corrupt mailed cd?
[07:53] <Warbo> ubuntu-desktop is basically nothing by itself
[07:53] <fuji> or suse?
[07:53] <shreevatsa> DrBanzai: First, check if it plays other kinds of files
[07:53] <orbin> TeamCanada|Silen: yes
[07:53] <Drac[Server] > How does one unload a module?
[07:54] <Warbo> TeamCanada|Silen: Well mine are quite corrupt. Well, leaving the 64bit ones on the floor doesn't help
[07:54] <TeamCanada|Silen> SuSE hated my monitor
[07:54] <shreevatsa> DrBanzai: Do you happen to have any .wav or .ogg files? Try playing theem
[07:54] <DeMoNSeED> lol
[07:54] <TeamCanada|Silen> hehe
[07:54] <fuji> can i try redhat and Suse on a livecd?
[07:54] <DrBanzai> shreevatsa, Ok, I'll try
[07:54] <DeMoNSeED> mine most of the time arrive all scratched
[07:54] <TeamCanada|Silen> I wouldnt mind getting the 64 bit dual boot w/ windows on my amd 64 4000+
[07:54] <anti_social> ogg is the best music compression code...
[07:54] <jlb> DrBanzai, hold on sending you a link, I had the same problem and this fixed it.
[07:54] <Warbo> fuji: I think Suse has a LiveCD and that is RPM based, although still very different to RedHat/Fedora
[07:55] <TeamCanada|Silen> Hostname: Ubuntu <--- is this ok? the equivalent of computer name in winblows?
[07:55] <[Chameleon] > TeamCanada|Silen: I'm dual-booting with Windows XP Pro 32-bit and Ubuntu Dapper AMD64
[07:55] <Warbo> TeamCanada|Silen: You have a 64bit 4000+ and you're trying to install on a 333 K6?
[07:55] <saik0> Warbo, huzzah, I did it!
[07:55] <TeamCanada|Silen> amen
[07:56] <Warbo> saik0: Did it actually help?
[07:56] <jlb> Drbanzai, http://amarok.kde.org/amarokwiki/index.php/MP3_on_Ubuntu_5.10
[07:56] <TeamCanada|Silen> I traded my 800mhz athlon for a k-6, felt adventurous... felt alive like Macguyver
[07:56] <saik0> Warbo, who knows it has a metric buttload of packages to download
[07:56] <DrBanzai> jlb, Thanks, I'll give it a look
[07:56] <fuji> lol
[07:56] <Inazad> How I can set a LAN ?
[07:56] <Blaxtic> DrBanzai: activate the restricted, universe, and multiverse repositories
[07:56] <purso> any experiences of azt1008 soun? card ??
[07:56] <[Chameleon] > TeamCanada|Silen: WTF, you went backwards?
[07:56] <TeamCanada|Silen> aye, and it was good
[07:56] <[Chameleon] > TeamCanada|Silen: how?
[07:56] <TeamCanada|Silen> got back to nature
[07:56] <Warbo> lnazad: Linu > Linux easy. Linux > Windows harder
[07:57] <[Chameleon] > LOL
[07:57] <Inazad> Warbo, thaht doesn't help me.. :P
[07:57] <TeamCanada|Silen> I realized life was about peace and love, and the AMD K-6 processor
[07:57] <Warbo> lnazad: Yes, but what are you trying to set up? Linux > Linux or Linux > Windows?
[07:57] <jlb> noisemo, the command you came back with said "mount point /mnt /point does not exist'
[07:57] <TeamCanada|Silen> I was enlightened
[07:57] <shreevatsa> jlb: create it
[07:58] <fuji> =p
[07:58] <dli> TeamCanada|Silen, it's fun to run gentoo on k6 :)
[07:58] <noiesmo> jlb, you can create a directory were ever you want to mount to
[07:58] <noiesmo> jlb, for example mkdir /opt/winshare
[07:58] <TeamCanada|Silen> and if I knew what gentoo was, I'm sure i would agree
[07:58] <angel12> hey, im using dapper and im trying to build the ipw3945 drivers for my wireless card, but i get /lib/modules/2.6.15-19-386/build/: no such directory
[07:58] <shreevatsa> angel12: go to #ubuntu+1
[07:58] <noiesmo> jlb, now mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 /opt/winshare
[07:58] <jlb> noisemo: ah, so create a folder in /mnt named 'point' and then run that command?
[07:58] <Warbo> TeamCanada|Silen: Don't get involved in Gentoo! Mark Shuttleworth described them as "WEEEEEEEEEEEEE crash"
[07:59] <TeamCanada|Silen> *confused*
[07:59] <Blaxtic> DrBanzai: also - make sure you have the correct kernel - and also get the win32codecs here: http://seveas.theplayboymansion.net/seveas/
[07:59] <noiesmo> jlb, you can create a directory were ever you want to mount to
[07:59] <ozzloy> Warbo: he did? hehe, that's funny
[07:59] <noiesmo> jlb, thats just example
[07:59] <Apostle^> TeamCanada|Silen: gentoo is a linux much harder to learn than ubuntu
[07:59] <TeamCanada|Silen> so... windows ME's linux counterpart?
[07:59] <jlb> noisemo, ok, sorry so slow, ex-windows user.
[07:59] <Warbo> TeamCanada|Silen: Gentoo philosophy "If I install from source I can get 1% performance increase." Installing from source takes days :)
[07:59] <saik0> TeamCanada|Silen, gentoo is a source only distro, you have to compile everything yourself
[07:59] <noiesmo> jlb, we forgive you
[07:59] <TeamCanada|Silen> fun
[07:59] <fuji> lol
[08:00] <jlb> thx
[08:00] <TeamCanada|Silen> any of you guys like riddles?
[08:00] <[Chameleon] > no
[08:00] <Apostle^> no
[08:00] <mDot> gentoo = baking a cake from scratch, ubuntu = baking a cake using one of those prepackaged box joints
[08:00] <TeamCanada|Silen> I've got a good one...
[08:00] <ozzloy> Warbo: not true.  i ran gentoo for a while.  the full install of everything on my laptop took less than a day
[08:00] <[Chameleon] >  /ignore TeamCanada|Silen
[08:00] <TeamCanada|Silen> ;P
[08:00] <[Chameleon] > :P
[08:00] <ozzloy> but updates are extremely frequent
[08:00] <Apostle^> mDot: yea the packages tastes better because you don't f$ck up while the from scratch guy makes mistakes
[08:00] <[Chameleon] > I had enough riddles and crap at the Microsoft interviews last week
[08:00] <Warbo> ozzloy: Wow. Less than a day! The phenominal speed!
[08:00] <tonyyarusso> TeamCanada|Silen: In #ubuntu-offtopic riddles could be fun
[08:00] <DrBanzai> Ok, thanks guys/gals.  I'm installing some missing packages now.  Is arts okay to use for my engine?  It's the only one I can seem to get installed.  I tried to install the gstreamer one, but it dosen't show up in the list
[08:01] <ozzloy> Warbo: yeah, and i'm not even all that linux savvy
[08:01] <saik0> "Gentoo Linux causes global warming! Needlessly recompiling everything uses power. Fossil fuels are used to generate that power. Hug a tree, use Debian!" -dpkg
[08:01] <ozzloy> Warbo: they have great documentation on everything though
[08:01] <[Chameleon] > saik0: LOL
[08:01] <TeamCanada|Silen> lol @ saiko
[08:01] <TeamCanada|Silen> but then so does linux from scratch...
[08:01] <TeamCanada|Silen> O_O
[08:01] <Warbo> ozzloy: I tried rebuilding the Kororaa LiveCD (based on Gentoo) and spent AGES "syncing". Then I tried to "emerge" something and it wouldn't work!
[08:02] <[Chameleon] > ozzloy: you must have started at stage 2 with a lot of stuff already compiled for you.
[08:02] <mendred> neone who knows how to get radeonfb to load instead of vga16fb on dapper?
[08:02] <noiesmo> jlb, if you want to mount automatically on start up via fstab read this http://pastebin.com/662626
[08:02] <saik0> !dapper
[08:02] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[08:02] <jlb> noisemo: it's mounted and accessed in /media/backup, but how do I get it to show up when I go to storage media, do I need to reboot?  I only show the linux and windows partitions mounted.
[08:02] <ozzloy> [Chameleon] : the first time, yeah, but the second time i compiled it all
[08:02] <Blaxtic> DrBanzai: arts is what you want to use - unless you want multi-media support thru FreeNX, then you'll want the enlightened sound deamon.
[08:02] <TeamCanada|Silen> warbo... during the install, do you think hitting the cpu with a hammer will help?
[08:02] <TeamCanada|Silen> o_O
[08:02] <Warbo> I hate Arts.
[08:03] <saik0> Blaxtic, have you used Nx much?
[08:03] <Warbo> Not THE Arts, just the daemon
[08:03] <[Chameleon] > LOL
[08:03] <[Chameleon] > yeah, down with the arts man
[08:03] <ozzloy> heh
[08:03] <[Chameleon] > j/k
[08:03] <Blaxtic> saik0: yes, I'm using it right now ;-)
[08:03] <shreevatsa> Warbo: me too
[08:03] <DrBanzai> Blaxtic, Ok, thanks!
[08:03] <noiesmo> jlb, not sure how to show it in media section of kde but you should be able to create shortcut to it
[08:03] <[Chameleon] > I dig art. I actually WENT to the Art Institute of Seattle
[08:03] <[Chameleon] > for real
[08:03] <Warbo> take over my soundcard? Why you...
[08:03] <saik0> Blaxtic, is there a win client thats "portable"
[08:03] <oulala> hi all
[08:04] <[Chameleon] > y0
[08:04] <oulala> i connected with unbutu
[08:04] <oulala> my first day
[08:04] <Blaxtic> saik0: absolutley - FreeNX is just the server... the clients are free for a lot of os's
[08:04] <[Chameleon] > oulala: good for you! good for ubuntu! good for school!
[08:04] <TeamCanada|Silen> Erase entire disc OR Erase entire disc and use LVM ?
[08:05] <Warbo> Does anyone know the min requirements for NX or VNC, etc. I want access on a crappy laptop
[08:05] <[Chameleon] > TeamCanada|Silen: I like LVM
[08:05] <TeamCanada|Silen> what does it do?
[08:05] <oulala> yes i'm noobfor linux , no goos window
[08:05] <saik0> Blaxtic, right I know. I was asking if theres a win32 client that I can tote around on say a USB flash drive to use without any intsallation
[08:05] <oulala> hihiih
[08:05] <Blaxtic> saik0: go to www.nomachine.com for the clients after installing FreeNX
[08:05] <saik0> Blaxtic, and i guess caching anything to usb flash is also bad
[08:05] <Warbo> TeamCanada|Silen: LVM is useful to combine HDs (a bit like RAID)
[08:05] <[Chameleon] > Logical Volume Management. It allows you to easily add storage without losing data.
[08:05] <[Chameleon] > Warbo: more like JBOD actually
[08:05] <TeamCanada|Silen> so... good for samba?
[08:05] <Warbo> Well, if I knew what that was...
[08:05] <oulala> bye
[08:05] <[Chameleon] > doesn't matter for that
[08:05] <TeamCanada|Silen> ok
[08:06] <cafuego> LVM is useful to combine raid arrays.
[08:06] <[Chameleon] > Warbo: JBOD is like RAID, but don't have to use identical disks.
[08:06] <TeamCanada|Silen> I'm not raiding
[08:06] <[Chameleon] > Just a Bunch Of Disks
[08:06] <TeamCanada|Silen> raid < all
[08:06] <TeamCanada|Silen> unless you run servers professionally
[08:06] <jlb> noisemo: just had to add it to fstab, thx
[08:06] <Warbo> I know "Software RAID" or "LVM" was an option in Fedora (3 or 4)
[08:06] <[Chameleon] > TeamCanada|Silen: yeah, generally.
[08:06] <Blaxtic> saik0: yeah - you would have to disable caching, otherwise it would slow you down. what are you wanting to run it on?
[08:06] <cafuego> Warbo: it is in Ubuntu as well.
[08:07] <TeamCanada|Silen> the ultimate in backup technology
[08:07] <TeamCanada|Silen> at double the price
[08:07] <tonyyarusso> What the heck is LVM anyway?  I tried reading about it and was confused.
[08:07] <cafuego> disks are dirt cheap
[08:07] <Warbo> Yes, but not as in "Do you want partitions, Do you want LVM or do you want Software RAID"
[08:07] <TeamCanada|Silen> O_O
[08:07] <Warbo> LVM is quite cool. Make easy backups of data and stuff
[08:07] <TeamCanada|Silen> I want one disc partitioned for linux
[08:07] <TeamCanada|Silen> and the other for storage
[08:08] <[Chameleon] > for example, in my server I had a 120 GB storage drive and I wanted to add more to it. So I just plugged in the new 160 GB drive, added it to the LVM array and suddenly my storage partition is 280 GB.
[08:08] <saik0> Blaxtic, Server on my machine at home, client on any windows machine
[08:08] <[Chameleon] > LVM is like Borg
[08:08] <TeamCanada|Silen> wait... what?
[08:08] <Warbo> You basically add a virtual layer on top of your storage media. You add as much storage from anywhere to "Volume Groups" which are like HDs, then split them into "Logical Volumes" which are like partitions
[08:08] <TeamCanada|Silen> how did you recover storage lost by OS files?
[08:08] <asror> !lamp
[08:08] <ubotu> Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[08:08] <TeamCanada|Silen> and swap
[08:09] <[Chameleon] > that's all on a separate drive
[08:09] <[Chameleon] > this is just for storage
[08:09] <TeamCanada|Silen> lah
[08:09] <TeamCanada|Silen> ah*
[08:09] <[Chameleon] > I have a 20GB drive with the OS and stuff
[08:09] <saik0> TeamCanada|Silen, pay lots of money
[08:09] <[Chameleon] > this is just /mnt/aux which I created
[08:09] <Blaxtic> saiko: but the client install on usb... hrm.. i haven't tried that yet.  actually, i'm not sure if the client install uses an xml file or registry....  i would hope registry so portability would be possible, however I'm not sure at the moment.
[08:09] <asror> !lamp
[08:09] <ubotu> Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[08:09] <TeamCanada|Silen> yah... I have a 20gb too... but it screams this horrible high-pitched whine
[08:09] <TeamCanada|Silen> deafening
[08:09] <[Chameleon] > I believe the 20GB drive in that machine is dieing
[08:09] <Blaxtic> saiko: er, not register - i meant xml...
[08:09] <saik0> Blaxtic. Yea I can still use my laptop as the worlds most expensive thinclient
[08:10] <[Chameleon] > in fact, it's offline now... I have to look at it.
[08:10] <[Chameleon] > I'll do that now.
[08:10] <Blaxtic> lol
[08:10] <TeamCanada|Silen> its not in a machine anymore for that reason
[08:10] <[Chameleon] > but on desktop machines, I always make a separate /home partition
[08:10] <PwcrLinux> Toshia drive very quiet it's better..
[08:10] <Warbo> I've got a terrible drive that I keep trying to ressurect. No use though. Can't be bothereed to buy another new one when I've got a DSL CD
[08:10] <[Chameleon] > that way you can easily change the OS at any time and not loose user files.
[08:10] <saik0> Blaxtic, I'm thinking an async /home would be smarter =)
[08:10] <mechatronic> hi all
[08:10] <TeamCanada|Silen> how long is it going to take me to learn linux?
[08:10] <PwcrLinux> err toshiba
[08:10] <[Chameleon] > TeamCanada|Silen: how smart are you?
[08:10] <TeamCanada|Silen> VERY
[08:10] <[Chameleon] > liar
[08:10] <TeamCanada|Silen> I'm modest too
[08:10] <Blaxtic> saik0: lol, same here with my wide screen multimedia windows xp pro laptop... hehheh
[08:10] <[Chameleon] > a long time
[08:10] <[Chameleon] > TeamCanada|Silen: heh, j/k
[08:11] <TeamCanada|Silen> quiz me
[08:11] <DeMoNSeED> bout 12 years then
[08:11] <Warbo> TeamCanada|Silen: "learn"? Is that use or proper sysadmin?
[08:11] <saik0> Blaxtic, no ubuntu loving on the lappy?
[08:11] <TeamCanada|Silen> I want to be the best "root" i the world
[08:11] <TeamCanada|Silen> if that makes any sense
[08:11] <[Chameleon] > LOL, no it doesn't
[08:11] <TeamCanada|Silen> damn
[08:11] <Warbo> TeamCanada|Silen: Oh, you can do that in a day
[08:11] <[Chameleon] > actually, sort of it idoes
[08:11] <TeamCanada|Silen> got a long way then
[08:11] <PwcrLinux> Anyone dislike the HD noisy? grab toshiba drives
[08:11] <mechatronic> scuseme, why my usb flash has just 7.7MB free
[08:11] <DrBanzai> Ok, my amorok plays .wav files, and I apt-got the files indicated on the link I was given...do I need to reboot or anything?
[08:11] <[Chameleon] > PwcrLinux: OK fine thanks.
[08:12] <[Chameleon] > mechatronic: empty the trash
[08:12] <Blaxtic> saik0: actually, i'm FreeNX'ing to my other laptop upstairs right now through wifi. :-)
[08:12] <TeamCanada|Silen> actually, is it possible to auto-login, logging into a file server with no monitor would be somewhat troublesome
[08:12] <mechatronic> Chameleon: I have done, but nothing happen
[08:12] <mechatronic> just 7.7M
[08:12] <pwebrick> hey guys
[08:12] <[Chameleon] > TeamCanada|Silen: I just use SSH to get to my server
[08:12] <mechatronic> erased everything
[08:12] <fuji> k worked
[08:12] <pwebrick> i have been having a problem with sudo
[08:12] <Warbo> mechatronic: What sort of space should it have?
[08:12] <fuji> how come i can still see my kde apps?
[08:12] <[Chameleon] > Warbo: I was just about to ask that
[08:13] <fuji> in gnome?
[08:13] <TeamCanada|Silen> ssh....?
[08:13] <TeamCanada|Silen> >_<
[08:13] <[Chameleon] > fuji: cause Gnome is kewl like that.
[08:13] <pwebrick> it si giving me a setuid must be root
[08:13] <fuji> lol
[08:13] <[Chameleon] > TeamCanada|Silen: Secure SHell
[08:13] <mechatronic> Warbo: it must be 124 or higher
[08:13] <[Chameleon] > so, 128 MB
[08:13] <pwebrick> anyone has any suggestions
[08:13] <TeamCanada|Silen> a shell is the portal to the kernel right?
[08:13] <Warbo> pwebrick: That's a file permission thing I think
[08:13] <fuji> where can i get winosx?
[08:13] <mechatronic> Chameleon: yep
[08:13] <TeamCanada|Silen> err porthole
[08:13] <[Chameleon] > TeamCanada|Silen: to login to the system. kernel doesn't matter.
[08:13] <fuji> is there a special channel for tweaks?
[08:13] <TeamCanada|Silen> window
[08:13] <saik0> Blaxtic, looks promising, http://www.fenner.info/clients/docs/index.html
[08:13] <pwebrick> warbo: on the sudoers file or what
[08:14] <TeamCanada|Silen> can I have no login?
[08:14] <TeamCanada|Silen> I dont need one
[08:14] <mechatronic> Not only my usb, my friends' one too
[08:14] <Warbo>  If you really want to wipe it then you could run "mkfs.vfat /dev/sda1" THAT IS ASSUMING IT IS THE ONLY USB DRIVE
[08:14] <[Chameleon] > TeamCanada|Silen: what are you talking about?
[08:14] <Blaxtic> saik0: i'll check my install here - just a sec. i would expect xml, but you never know...
[08:14] <TeamCanada|Silen> this question might make some of you mad... but where is the C:/ drive?
[08:14] <TeamCanada|Silen> JK
[08:14] <TeamCanada|Silen> dont hurt me
[08:15] <[Chameleon] > /mnt/winxp
[08:15] <[Chameleon] > that's where mine is
[08:15] <TeamCanada|Silen> nice
[08:15] <[Chameleon] > :)
[08:15] <Warbo> pwebrick: I don't know, the extra bits always confige me. I just set myself without a password using visudo and now I don't have to worry (except for trojansd)
[08:15] <baconbacon> My X apps don't redraw anymore, somebody ever encounter this?
[08:15] <TeamCanada|Silen> I'm guessing that's a mount
[08:15] <TeamCanada|Silen> ?
[08:15] <[Chameleon] > baconbacon: you need to give me bacon before I can answer that.
[08:15] <[Chameleon] > TeamCanada|Silen: yeah
[08:15] <DeMoNSeED> DrBanzai, you get it all fixed up
[08:15] <TeamCanada|Silen> does ubuntu auto-mount all available drives on boot?
[08:15] <[Chameleon] > TeamCanada|Silen: automounted on startup via /etc/fstab
[08:16] <TeamCanada|Silen> wow
[08:16] <[Chameleon] > TeamCanada|Silen: I set it up
[08:16] <TeamCanada|Silen> thanks
[08:16] <pwebrick> warbo: sudo vi on which file
[08:16] <[Chameleon] > TeamCanada|Silen: are you dual-booting?
[08:16] <TeamCanada|Silen> is fstab like... a batch file?
[08:16] <tonyyarusso> TeamCanada|Silen: You can configure which ones you want automounted or not too.
[08:16] <TeamCanada|Silen> no
[08:16] <pwebrick> warbo: to set up the proper permissions
[08:16] <TeamCanada|Silen> I dont want to dual-boot
[08:16] <[Chameleon] > fstab = file system tabulation
[08:16] <Warbo> it's a command. Use "sudo visudo", but that probly won't work if sudo doesn't work
[08:16] <[Chameleon] > TeamCanada|Silen: it's a config file
[08:16] <DrBanzai> DeMoNSeED, Well, Lemme check here
[08:16] <TeamCanada|Silen> autoexec.bat?
[08:16] <pwebrick> ueah it won't
[08:16] <tonyyarusso> [Chameleon] : I just learned something :)
[08:16] <Warbo> fstab=murdering f's
[08:16] <[Chameleon] > TeamCanada|Silen: shell scripts are like batch files.
[08:16] <DeMoNSeED> k
[08:17] <[Chameleon] > tonyyarusso: good
[08:17] <TeamCanada|Silen> what extension do they have?
[08:17] <TeamCanada|Silen> files have extensions in linux right?
[08:17] <PwcrLinux> yep
[08:17] <Warbo> TeamCanada|Silen: If you want them to
[08:17] <[Chameleon] > TeamCanada|Silen: extensions are not required in Linux
[08:17] <TeamCanada|Silen> O RLY?
[08:17] <[Chameleon] > yeah
[08:17] <TeamCanada|Silen> how?
[08:17] <Sebastian> help
[08:17] <mechatronic> Warbo: yeah, thanks a lot
[08:17] <bliss1_> DeMoNSeED: hi
[08:17] <tonyyarusso> TeamCanada|Silen: For instance, /etc/fstab has no extension, as you can see.
[08:17] <mechatronic> very nice
[08:17] <pwebrick> oko then thanks
[08:17] <Warbo> TeamCanada|Silen: I wage a ware againsta them. AAA! Nautilus doesn't know an MPEG4 file without them!
[08:17] <fuji> This may just be the hype of a CEO, but the head of VMware says that the company is testing VMware for the Mac and its done.
[08:17] <TeamCanada|Silen> i see
[08:18] <Sebastian> need help
[08:18] <noiesmo> !ask
[08:18] <ubotu> Just ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model, outputs of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl is important.
[08:18] <TeamCanada|Silen> so the etc/ directory is like... system32?
[08:18] <Warbo> sorry, typos. Not any kind of mexican bandit
[08:18] <Blaxtic> saik0: it doesn't appear to save defaults to it's own directory by default - however, you can save settings to wherever you like, so this would lead me to believe it would be portable.
[08:18] <baconbacon> extensions are not required but the system can guess the type most of the time
[08:18] <PwcrLinux> Warbo: MP4???? sound like a video?
[08:18] <Warbo> Does it use headers or heuristics?
[08:18] <DeMoNSeED> hi bliss1_
[08:18] <DrBanzai> DeMoNSeED, Nope, it's still not playing .mp3 files
[08:19] <[Chameleon] > headers and mime types
[08:19] <[Chameleon] > the command `file` can tell you what sort of file things are
[08:19] <DeMoNSeED> pm me DrBanzai , i'll try to help ya
[08:19] <TeamCanada|Silen> I'm on installing base system warbo, should have the details soon
[08:19] <[Chameleon] > i.e....
[08:19] <[Chameleon] > amarok does suck. use Rhythmbox
[08:19] <Warbo> Yes I know what MPEG4 is. (And it is MPEG4, not windoze 3 letter mp4 file extension) but Nautilus doesn't recognise them. Take extensions from AVIs they still open. MPEG fine. MPEG4 "Don't know what to open it with"
[08:19] <saik0> Blaxtic, great, now all i gotta do is learn how to http(s) tunnel it and I'm golden
[08:19] <TeamCanada|Silen> can I run foobar2000 w/ wine?
[08:19] <TeamCanada|Silen> cause foobar is godly
[08:20] <TeamCanada|Silen> or is there a linux version?
[08:20] <tonyyarusso> Warbo: You could always tell it...
[08:20] <[Chameleon] > paul@Chameleon:~$ file signature.png
[08:20] <[Chameleon] > signature.png: PNG image data, 700 x 200, 8-bit gray+alpha, non-interlaced
[08:20] <saik0> TeamCanada|Silen, you can, but theres a large number of good linux audio players
[08:20] <Blaxtic> saik0: oh damn... you're behind the firewall? just have the ssh port opened up and you're golden. ;-)
[08:20] <Warbo> Nautilus associates files due to extension, so getting rid of it makes this useless
[08:20] <DeMoNSeED> brb in a sec
[08:20] <tonyyarusso> !info php-banana
[08:20] <ubotu> php-banana: (foobar), section universe/web, is optional. Version: 1.0-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 22 kB, Installed size: 248 kB
[08:21] <saik0> Blaxtic, the server end is'nt. but I'd like the client to be able to connect if it is
[08:21] <[Chameleon] > Warbo: Nautilus does NOT use extensions
[08:21] <[Chameleon] > Warbo: at least not like Windows Explorer does
[08:21] <Sebastian> help with nvidia drivers please?
[08:21] <main123> nautilus is garbage
[08:21] <noiesmo> !nvidia
[08:21] <ubotu> nvidia is probably at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[08:21] <Warbo> As far as I can tell associating a program with something in Nautilus is saved due to file extension
[08:21] <saik0> Warbo, pretty sure it's mimetype
[08:22] <[Chameleon] > Warbo: it's by mime type
[08:22] <[Chameleon] > as saik0 said
[08:22] <Warbo> chameleon: Exactly. I am saying my avis have no extension, they open fine. My MPEG have no extension they open fine. MPEG4 need the extention to open in Totem
[08:22] <noiesmo> Sebastian, whats you problem with nvidia drivers
[08:22] <tonyyarusso> main123: What do you prefer instead?
[08:22] <[Chameleon] > Warbo: change the extension of something you associated.
[08:22] <main123> tonyyarusso: xplorer2
[08:22] <Warbo> MPEG4 must be too new for the database or something
[08:22] <main123> but its only available on windows :((
[08:23] <Warbo> Changing extension says "Warning file says one thing content says another" message
[08:23] <Warbo> Baically I like my DefIcons on Amiga
[08:23] <TeamCanada|Silen> oh noes
[08:23] <bliss1_> DeMoNSeED: where you DBO?
[08:23] <DeMoNSeED> ?
[08:24] <DeMoNSeED> you have me at a disadvantage, have we chatted before?
[08:24] <marek_> anyone know a super awesome place to learn regular expressions?
[08:24] <TeamCanada|Silen> why does linux use tons of folders like /usr/ or /etc/ or /bin/ that start at an imaginary point?
[08:24] <Warbo> Oh yeah, and because loads of Amigans name files with an "extension" first "like "mod.song" to keep them together Nautlus wont open them without renaming to song.mod
[08:24] <TeamCanada|Silen> why not C?
[08:24] <DeMoNSeED> DrBanzai
[08:24] <obontu> hello, is there a way to clear the epiphany browsing history?
[08:24] <CaptainMorgan> What about C?
[08:24] <Warbo> TeamCanada|Silen: Because C makes no sense.
[08:24] <bliss1_> DeMoNSeED: my fault no I thought you had chaged your nick from DBO
[08:24] <DrBanzai> DeMoNSeED, Yes?
[08:24] <CaptainMorgan> C makes perfect sense
[08:25] <[Chameleon] > marek_: man regex
[08:25] <DeMoNSeED> lol..ok...nope
[08:25] <TeamCanada|Silen> not the language
[08:25] <CaptainMorgan> ok
[08:25] <TeamCanada|Silen> -_-"
[08:25] <noiesmo> TeamCanada|Silen, why not C it's just what ur use to from the windows world
[08:25] <Warbo> TeamCanada|Silen: Where is C:? In My computer? Where is that? in desktop? where is that? In documents and settings? where is that?
[08:25] <DeMoNSeED> http://www.elijahlofgren.com/ubuntu/#multimedia, if you haven't seen that try there DrBanzai
[08:25] <tonyyarusso> TeamCanada|Silen: C is an imaginary convention too.  You don't pull out a hard disk and see a big C on it.
[08:25] <DrBanzai> DeMoNSeED, Ok, thanks!
[08:25] <Warbo> With LVM my system was called Chris
[08:25] <TeamCanada|Silen> but it all starts in one unit
[08:25] <Warbo> that beats C any day
[08:25] <DeMoNSeED> if you want just pm me in here i'll try to help if i can
[08:25] <[Chameleon] > TeamCanada|Silen: / is not an imaginary point. it's the beginning.
[08:25] <CaptainMorgan> well.. please tell me what you're referring to as 'C' then?
[08:25] <CaptainMorgan> the HDD?
[08:26] <TeamCanada|Silen> aye
[08:26] <CaptainMorgan> aye
[08:26] <CaptainMorgan> cheers
[08:26] <tonyyarusso> TeamCanada|Silen: Yep, / is that unit.
[08:26] <noiesmo> tonyyarusso,  i put a big c on mine with niko pen lol
[08:26] <[Chameleon] > TeamCanada|Silen: also, with Windows, using A-Z you are limited to 26 mounted filesystems / devices. Linux is UNLIMITED.
[08:26] <marek_> Chameleon, thank you much
[08:26] <TeamCanada|Silen> unlimited, O RLY>
[08:26] <[Chameleon] > marek_: aye
[08:26] <[Chameleon] > YES
[08:26] <Blaxtic> saik0: yeah - i haven't seen a java or "web" version of the client yet... :-(
[08:26] <tonyyarusso> TeamCanada|Silen: And actually, windows doesn't alway have one.  Mine for instance starts at a combination of C:, F:, and G:.
[08:26] <main123> actually, on ntfs, ther eis no letters.
[08:26] <PwcrLinux> Yea! Linux lot better than winblows..
[08:27] <TeamCanada|Silen> so where are the mounted drives?
[08:27] <saik0> Blaxtic, i linked one earlier, you must have missed it
[08:27] <TeamCanada|Silen> say... A:
[08:27] <main123> and there is no limitations.
[08:27] <TeamCanada|Silen> or D:
[08:27] <[Chameleon] > TeamCanada|Silen: depends on where you define them in the /etc/fstab
[08:27] <main123> PwcrLinux: you are silly
[08:27] <Warbo> Also on XP I had 2 partitions, a CDRW and a DVDROM. C stayed as C but DE&F kept swapping! Any path that said "F:\Documents\Pictures" was wrong after a reboot
[08:27] <noiesmo> TeamCanada|Silen, normally /media/
[08:27] <[Chameleon] > TeamCanada|Silen: they can mount ANYWHERE
[08:27] <TeamCanada|Silen> they could be /Floppy/ ?
[08:27] <[Chameleon] > yes
[08:27] <TeamCanada|Silen> wow
[08:27] <TeamCanada|Silen> that kicks ass
[08:27] <[Chameleon] > yes
[08:27] <baconbacon> This is really really weird
[08:27] <TeamCanada|Silen> can I put everything else in /HDA/?
[08:28] <tonyyarusso> main123: Bull.  It still uses letters.  I think it might do AA: or something eventually though.  Plus, ntfs can only be up to some size, 160G or thereabouts.
[08:28] <saik0> Blaxtic, QSClient supposedly runs off USB drive and has support for many protocals. I cant verify it's stability or security though http://www.fenner.info/clients/docs/index.html
[08:28] <baconbacon> I can't get X to redraw windows properly anymore
[08:28] <TeamCanada|Silen> so I'd have /HDA/, /Floppy/, /CD/
[08:28] <[Chameleon] > TeamCanada|Silen: what do you mean?
[08:28] <Warbo> TeamCanada|Silen: you can remount stuff. So a mounted /windows can also be bound with "mount --bind /windows/My\ Documents /home/chris/Windows\ Documents"
[08:28] <PwcrLinux> main123: Yea, I likes linux.. I dumped the old dead XP hard drive and replaced new hard drive and installed new ubuntu..
[08:28] <main123> tonyyarusso: no, it does not
[08:28] <Warbo> Then you have Windows documents in home
[08:28] <[Chameleon] > TeamCanada|Silen: yeah, or you can use Symbolic links.
[08:28] <main123> open boot.ini
[08:28] <[Chameleon] > TeamCanada|Silen: symbolic links will blow your mind
[08:28] <TeamCanada|Silen> NO WAI
[08:28] <pierre-> !ruby
[08:28] <ubotu> ruby is, like, an object oriented programming/scripting language born in Japan. You can download it at the command line by sudo apt-get install ruby1.8.
[08:29] <mabus06> TeamCanada|Silen: You could even have all your drives mount to /c or /d etc if you wanted
[08:29] <main123> also, you can mount filesystems on ntfs
[08:29] <main123> just like in unix
[08:29] <main123> so, all you need is one drive
[08:29] <mabus06> For reading only.
[08:29] <main123> so big deal, instead of / you have C:
[08:29] <main123> its just a convention.
[08:29] <Warbo> I've been trying to make some sort of catagory system for my files using symbolic links (so music can be browsed by Artist, Genre, etc) and I found a few promising FUSE filesystems for this. THEY are cool
[08:29] <TeamCanada|Silen> I could move all of the etc, bin, usr to a folder and it would run?
[08:30] <mabus06> TeamCanada|Silen: Don't.
[08:30] <[Chameleon] > main123: it's an archaic limitation from Windows 3.x days.
[08:30] <tonyyarusso> TeamCanada|Silen: Um, don't go there.
[08:30] <[Chameleon] > and even prior
[08:30] <main123> why is it a limitation?
[08:30] <TeamCanada|Silen> O_O
[08:30] <main123> there is no limitation
[08:30] <pierre-> how can i install ruby1.8.2 instead of 1.8.3?
[08:30] <TeamCanada|Silen> have I violated the linux rulebook?
[08:30] <[Chameleon] > TeamCanada|Silen: probably not. don't move stuff around. just learn it.
[08:30] <TeamCanada|Silen> ok
[08:30] <mabus06> I suppose you could. But you'd have to get stuff to be looking in the right places for files.
[08:30] <main123> you can mount ntfs filesystems, in subfolders
[08:30] <mabus06> It's just not a good idea, and it's pointless.
[08:30] <[Chameleon] > TeamCanada|Silen: it's the way it is for a reason... because it works well.
[08:30] <Warbo> TeamCanada|Silen: You can do it, but do you want to tell everything where they've gone?
[08:30] <mabus06> You'll get used to the linux hierarchy soon enough.
[08:30] <kill-9> TeamCanada|Silen, remember, linux its free (: you can do whatever you want
[08:30] <DeMoNSeED> brb
[08:31] <Warbo> I became even more organised after using Linux. And that was hard
[08:31] <[Chameleon] > main123: yes, you can do that, but you are still bound by the C: legacy
[08:31] <ardchoille> That's it. I will never, ever again recommend Linux to anyone. The state of Linux applications is shitty and pathetic to at best. The lazy, dumbass devs write an app, they don't bother testing at all, they just release and say to themselves "I'm to damn lazy or stupid to test this, so I'll let the public test it and fix my mistakes". I will no longer recommend or support anything related to this piece of shit operating system. At least when you b
[08:31] <TeamCanada|Silen> I just want all of my computers to be similar in data organization... since windows cant change, linux will have to
[08:31] <main123> what legacy....
[08:31] <Warbo> ardchoille: Hello
[08:31] <[Chameleon] > TeamCanada|Silen: yeah, but it'll become a nightmare really quick.
[08:31] <main123> the / is older than C:
[08:31] <mabus06> main123: You always get people like t hat.
[08:31] <main123> so maybe it is / that is archaic
[08:31] <CaptainMorgan> which came first, / or C hahah
[08:32] <Warbo> What about DF0:
[08:32] <main123> or maybe it should be \ ?
[08:32] <mabus06> TeamCanada|Silen: Just learn how linux is organised, and deal with it. :)
[08:32] <TeamCanada|Silen> but still... C:/ wont change no matter how hard I tap my shoes together
[08:32] <CaptainMorgan> shit, im hanmered
[08:32] <PwcrLinux> the first one was /
[08:32] <main123> it like \  better.
[08:32] <[Chameleon] > main123: actually you are right... / was first
[08:32] <Warbo> no / needed after and all slashes are forward (like they should be)
[08:32] <marek_> main123 why would u like the "\"
[08:32] <marek_> \ is terrible
[08:32] <saik0> !ops
[08:32] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, fabbione, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee
[08:32] <[Chameleon] > marek_: cuz he likes Windows better
[08:32] <main123> marek_: its easier to type on my keyboard
[08:32] <mabus06> saik0: Don't abuse that.
[08:32] <TeamCanada|Silen> well... I dont want / or \... I want {
[08:32] <main123> because for the other one, i have to use shift
[08:33] <TeamCanada|Silen> : /
[08:33] <Hobbsee> saik0?
[08:33] <[Chameleon] > main123: using a QWERTY keyboard, the / is easier than the \
[08:33] <slavik> an automated responce from an op
[08:33] <Hobbsee> what's the problem?
[08:33] <Warbo> You know people have got into the habit of saying "C slash My Documents" and "website dot com forward slash folder" That's surely the wrong way around?
[08:33] <saik0> Hobbsee, ardchoille was trolling/flaming. gone now
[08:33] <disco_stu> Im switching to linux because I feel that the time I invest into learning it and setting it up will be better then reinstalling windows all the time
[08:33] <mileskeaton> Whoo-hoo : just got Dapper running on a new IBM/Lenovo Thinkpad T60. (dual-core laptop)
[08:33] <Blaxtic> saik0: thx i missed that link
[08:33] <kill-9> mileskeaton, congratulation (:
[08:33] <tonyyarusso> mileskeaton: Sweetness!  (What's the price tag on that?)
[08:33] <marek_> warbo, / is a forwardslash
[08:34] <saik0> Blaxtic, sure
[08:34] <[Chameleon] > disco_stu: true that
[08:34] <marek_> \ is a backslash
[08:34] <[Chameleon] > marek_: yup
[08:34] <main123> not everyone uses qwerty
[08:34] <Warbo> I know, but if any is going to be abbrieviated it should be /
[08:34] <mabus06> disco_stu: I find that with linux, you're learning about computers. When you operate windows, you're learning how to operate windows.
[08:34] <slavik> main123: who doesn't use qwerty?
[08:34] <mileskeaton> tonyyarusso: eh.. about $3000.  but first laptop I've bought in 3.5 years, so worth it.  maxed out with 2G RAM
[08:34] <Hobbsee> saik0: darn it...he was usign a cloak
[08:34] <[Chameleon] > main123: yup. and not everyone uses your keyboard layout either
[08:34] <main123> lots of people
[08:34] <marek_> Warbo, that depends on who you're talking to
[08:34] <tonyyarusso> mileskeaton: Not bad at all.  Sounds cool.
[08:34] <Warbo> You're talking to me.
[08:34] <TeamCanada|Silen> ah.. that's another important thing... security. Adware/viruses for linux. do they exist?
[08:34] <Gau> Buy me a laptop?
[08:34] <Warbo> And I've used / since I was 4
[08:34] <main123> viruses exist for linux
[08:35] <disco_stu> My last year using windows I have done nothing but try to keep up with removing all the spyware, malicious registry entries, etc
[08:35] <[Chameleon] > main123: unix was invented in the USA where we use qwerty. / was easier than \ for them.
[08:35] <marek_> if you're talking to smart computer people, "slash" would mean "/"
[08:35] <main123> just very few
[08:35] <tonyyarusso> mileskeaton: (If you get bored, try out the theft protection alarm script on the ThinkWiki and let me know how it is.)
[08:35] <disco_stu> its brutal
[08:35] <slavik> main123: they are less common
[08:35] <saik0> Hobbsee, darn elves and their invisble cloaks
[08:35] <Hobbsee> can we please send all discussions of / and \ 's to #ubuntu-offtopic please?
[08:35] <tonyyarusso> TeamCanada|Silen: Barely.
[08:35] <main123> of course they are less common
[08:35] <Hobbsee> this is a support channel
[08:35] <PwcrLinux> TeamCanada|Silen: viruses very rarely on the linux, mostly on windows gets all of viruses..
[08:35] <mileskeaton> Anyone know where the non-free .debs are?   Acrobat, Flash, Lame (MP3).  They don't even appear to be in Universe/Multiverse anymore.  (Dapper)
[08:35] <mustard5> TeamCanada|Silen, most of the software comes from a central repository so its unlikely to install malware/adware
[08:35] <[Chameleon] > TeamCanada|Silen: there are like 7 known viruses ever for Linux. none are spreading around.
[08:35] <main123> so, eh
[08:35] <TeamCanada|Silen> :S
[08:35] <marek_> main123, you can probably get a small app that intercepts keyboard input and you can remap the keys to whatever u want
[08:35] <slavik> mileskeaton: restricted I think ... or multiverse
[08:35] <Warbo> I'm done (as long as I can put colons in my filenames then windoze users try to copy them mwahahahaha!)
[08:35] <main123> ubuntu is based off debian?
[08:35] <tonyyarusso> TeamCanada|Silen: And even those can't do as much damage if they infect you because of the security setup.
[08:35] <slavik> yes, main123
[08:36] <[Chameleon] > main123: yes
[08:36] <main123> marek_: i already use a custom layout :)
[08:36] <TeamCanada|Silen> I'm talking about creepy crawlys that hijack your computer via internet temp folders...
[08:36] <disco_stu> Do any of you even use antivirus on linux?
[08:36] <marek_> so why dont u just switch your slashes
[08:36] <[Chameleon] > TeamCanada|Silen: it's not a concern, but if you are super worried you can install antivirus software on Linux
[08:36] <noiesmo> !clamav
[08:36] <ubotu> ClamAV is not required. It purpose is to check files for virii on a server shared with Windows users (eg: mail server). For those that need it for that purpose, it is available in universe.
[08:36] <[Chameleon] > disco_stu: not me. I don't even use it on Windows. I know better than to get a virus or malware.
[08:36] <TeamCanada|Silen> are there good anti-virus / firewall apps available?
[08:36] <slavik> well, my win system has clamav
[08:36] <tonyyarusso> disco_stu: I installed it one day just for kicks, and took it off the same day.  I might get it back if I start running servers or something.
[08:37] <mustard5> TeamCanada|Silen, well if you have no services running that are open to the net, then you don't have an issue...and this is the default state of an ubuntu install..no listening ports
[08:37] <noiesmo> !firestarter
[08:37] <ubotu> Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter, which can be installed via synaptic.
[08:37] <main123> anyway...
[08:37] <saik0> disco_stu, most linux AV's main purpose is to scan for infected windows binaries, unless I'm misguided
[08:37] <[Chameleon] > disco_stu: I've not run any virus protection in Windows for ages... but I suggest clamwin to all my windows running clients.
[08:37] <Warbo> One final point on slashes. I heard you can put any character in a filename through a terminal as long as you \ it. Is that true? Can I have a folder of Music/Pictures?
[08:37] <[Chameleon] > Warbo: yes
[08:37] <Warbo> Cool. Knacker Nautilus though
[08:37] <[Chameleon] > Warbo: it would need to be Music\/Pictures
[08:37] <Hobbsee> saik0: then again, i can ban the cloak :D
[08:37] <[Chameleon] > Warbo: Nautilus is cool with it
[08:37] <Warbo> I know about the backslash thing in terminals I just didn't know if you'de get an error
[08:38] <saik0> Hobbsee, \o/
[08:38] <[Chameleon] > shouldn't
[08:38] <asror> !ftp
[08:38] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: vsftpd, proftpd
[08:38] <slavik> Hobbsee: I have a ban stick, just for you, 9.99USD my friend
[08:38] <slavik> :D
[08:38] <TeamCanada|Silen> how will I know if some one is attempting to hack me, will linux tell me or do I need the frontend?
[08:38] <Hobbsee> saik0: and seeing as it's kinda hard to get rid of one's hostmask, it's probably quite effective...
[08:38] <slavik> TeamCanada|Silen: are you running any servers on your ubuntu system?
[08:38] <disco_stu> TeamCanada|Silen: who are you giving your password to?
[08:38] <TeamCanada|Silen> samba
[08:39] <[Chameleon] > TeamCanada|Silen: there are some things like tripwire that will tell you... and root-kit scanners.
[08:39] <TeamCanada|Silen> the box will auto-login
[08:39] <TeamCanada|Silen> if possible
[08:39] <slavik> TeamCanada|Silen: install Firestarter
[08:39] <tonyyarusso> TeamCanada|Silen: Depends how you go about it.  Network traffic analyzers, reading log files, rootkit checkers, etc
[08:39] <Warbo> TeamCanada|Silen: Firestarter is the only GUI I found that's decent for firewalls and security. (And I like the Woolly Mittens Penguin :))
[08:39] <[Chameleon] > TeamCanada|Silen: yeah, use Firestarter... it's nice.
[08:39] <slavik> it is the front end to the direwall that is built into ubuntu
[08:39] <[Chameleon] > heh, direwall
[08:39] <slavik> oops
[08:39] <slavik> firewall
[08:39] <TeamCanada|Silen> is ubuntu > fedora 5?
[08:39] <[Chameleon] > :P
[08:39] <ozzloy> i had a firefox instance running in the background, it worked with aoss.  thanks crimsun
[08:39] <[Chameleon] > ubuntu dapper drake is
[08:40] <[Chameleon] > slavik: :)
[08:40] <Warbo> TeamCanada|Silen: Fedora 5 discs Ubuntu 1 disc. Now quality...
[08:40] <mustard5> TeamCanada|Silen, well allowing an autologin is not being very secure really...its creating a security 'hole' :)
[08:40] <saik0> TeamCanada|Silen, you will only find biased answers here
[08:40] <slavik> ubuntu is not red hat
[08:40] <[Chameleon] > I switched to Ubuntu from Fedora/Red Hat
[08:40] <fxc065> is kubuntu better for a n00b like mwee?
[08:40] <TeamCanada|Silen> >_<, I just need to have it boot into an environment where samba can do its thing securely
[08:40] <slavik> and red hat = dependency hell
[08:40] <anti_social> i don't think that he will find only biased answers here...
[08:40] <slavik> fxc065: they are the same
[08:41] <Warbo> fxc065: More development is done in Ubuntu, and Ubuntu's goals are ease of use, so use Ubuntu
[08:41] <saik0> fxc065, KDE vs GNOME is a matter of preference, neither are particularly hard to use
[08:41] <slavik> fxc065: KDE is closer to windows gui than gnome
[08:41] <main123> ubuntu isnt = dependency hell?
[08:41] <fxc065> gnome or kde?
[08:41] <anti_social> i installed fedora some time ago... it sound insteresting that time...
[08:41] <slavik> gnome is closer to osx
[08:41] <slavik> main123: no
[08:41] <fxc065> oooo
[08:41] <main123> why isnt it, slavik
[08:41] <cyphase> hmm
[08:41] <[Chameleon] > Gnome is simpler I think than KDE
[08:41] <slavik> main123: unless you compile anjuta 2.0.1 ...
[08:41] <tonyyarusso> main123: Installs all dependencies automatically.
[08:41] <anti_social> but, i think ubuntu make things easier and more free
[08:41] <noiesmo> main123, depends on the apps you want to use
[08:41] <cyphase> Epiphany looks good
[08:41] <slavik> dpkg takes care of dependancies
[08:41] <main123> gnome is dumbed down, crippled garbage, fxc065
[08:41] <fxc065> kde is like windows api then?
[08:41] <saik0> fxc065, GNOME is definetly simpler than KDE
[08:41] <slavik> unless they aren't in repos
[08:41] <cyphase> and tagged bookmarks!
[08:41] <main123> fxc065: use KDE
[08:41] <Blaxtic> saik0: unfotunately, the client install is in german and the program doesn't work after install....
[08:41] <TeamCanada|Silen> WOW, I'm sorry
[08:41] <slavik> don't listen to main123
[08:41] <[Chameleon] > main123: man, what's your problem anyway?
[08:41] <Warbo> apt tkes care of dependencies. dpkg aborts
[08:41] <TeamCanada|Silen> stop the distro war
[08:42] <TeamCanada|Silen> plz
[08:42] <saik0> Blaxtic, haha wow
[08:42] <saik0> Blaxtic, that is rather unfortunate
[08:42] <ozzloy> kde has a million options up front.  gnome hides them
[08:42] <roryy> desktop/distro wars to #ubutunu-offtopic, please
[08:42] <[Chameleon] > main123: you don't even use ubuntu and you're trying to tell people how it is.
[08:42] <fxc065> i wanna kno people's preference here..
[08:42] <slavik> rofl
[08:42] <main123> im using it right now
[08:42] <TeamCanada|Silen> I'm sorry, I think this was all my fault
[08:42] <main123> so that u know
[08:42] <Hobbsee> can we send all desktop/distro wars to #ubuntu-offtopic please?  This is a support channel only.
[08:42] <slavik> fxc065: I used both. I started with KDE and liked it because it is similar to windows, less learning.
[08:43] <fxc065> ohh
[08:43] <Warbo> My craze for customisation has actually ended up with a pretty standard GNOME desktop, because it's so well layed out
[08:43] <slavik> fxc065: then I decided to force myself to use gnome ... I grew quite fond of it
[08:43] <slavik> also, synaptic > kynaptic
[08:43] <fxc065> thanks so much for the insights
[08:43] <ozzloy> weird.  i came from windows and found gnome easier
[08:43] <skp> I am trying to install ATI Drivers 8.24.8 it says it needs glibc >=2.2   when i tried apt-get upgrade glibc ... it didnt help my current glibc is 2.1 wat do i do now ??
[08:43] <Warbo> Kubuntu ends up with cheap QT versions of stuff already in Ubuntu
[08:43] <slavik> fxc065: I would suggest using whatever you haven't used
[08:43] <TeamCanada|Silen> I came from windows... I'm stuck there
[08:43] <ozzloy> and later got a mac-mini and hated learning OSX interface
[08:43] <PwcrLinux> main123: you're wrong, KDE is closer to OSX, as you noticed the middle taskbar either top or buttom is a OSX, and the Gnome is a like a windows, as you noticed the _ square and X..
[08:43] <Blaxtic> saik0: just a sec... i have no idea what it's saying, but i'll use some intuition... brb... (i hope....)
[08:44] <[Chameleon] > fxc065: I suggest trying both for 1 week and seeing what you like.
[08:44] <fxc065> slavik: i shall try both
[08:44] <TeamCanada|Silen> wow... this really escalated fast
[08:44] <mustard5> skp, perhaps the -dev version would help...there are easier ways of installing ATI drivers I would think though
[08:44] <saik0> Blaxtic, we should move this discussion to offtopic
[08:44] <Hobbsee> !+offtopic
[08:44] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[08:44] <fxc065> thank you....
[08:44] <slavik> fxc065: try each for like a month
[08:44] <roryy> skp: what version of ubuntu do you have? I'm using libc 2.3.5
[08:44] <Hobbsee> saik0: perhaps you should.
[08:44] <skp> hey mustard ... can u pls help with that
[08:44] <Warbo> XFCE restricts some GUI stuff. I didn't like that
[08:44] <TeamCanada|Silen> Sorry
[08:44] <[Chameleon] > PwcrLinux: those are add-ons.
[08:44] <skp> 5.10
[08:44] <TeamCanada|Silen> please stop fighting
[08:44] <mustard5> skp, have you read any guides to installing ATI drivers?
[08:44] <[Chameleon] > PwcrLinux: I have an OS X like Dock in my Gnome environment
[08:44] <mustard5> skp, I have some if you havent
[08:44] <disco_stu> I am having trouble getting servers to connect with mldonkey - i am behind a router and set a filter to enable ports from 4000-5000 - what else should I do>
[08:44] <skp> I did not in the sense specific to ubuntu
[08:44] <PwcrLinux> [Chameleon] : yea, some of them
[08:45] <slavik> TeamCanada|Silen: don't worry, it was about time to light the powder keg :)
[08:45] <main123> PwcrLinux: i never said that
[08:45] <dli> [Chameleon] , show me a snapshot?
[08:45] <mustard5> !tell skp about ati
[08:45] <TeamCanada|Silen> lol
[08:45] <mustard5> skp, check for a pm from ubotu
[08:45] <skp> k
[08:45] <skp> thnks a lot man
[08:45] <TeamCanada|Silen> slavik, that was such a horrible analogy
[08:45] <TeamCanada|Silen> ;P
[08:45] <Warbo> disco_stu: I got messages of "Your port xxxx is blocked" but things still go, just VERY slow
[08:45] <slavik> it is one nonetheless
[08:45] <TeamCanada|Silen> true
[08:45] <TeamCanada|Silen> lets try something new... "What's the best distro?"
[08:46] <TeamCanada|Silen> ;P
[08:46] <FlannelKing> OS2
[08:46] <skp> thnks mustard I will try those and be back ...
[08:46] <celerex> console linux!
[08:46] <Warbo> BeOS
[08:46] <main123> distros are all the same
[08:46] <mustard5> skp, k good luck
[08:46] <Hobbsee> TeamCanada|Silen: you dare, and you'll be the first to get removed
[08:46] <TeamCanada|Silen> Windows ME!
[08:46] <TeamCanada|Silen> :(
[08:46] <PwcrLinux> Oh boy
[08:46] <Warbo> AROS
[08:46] <disco_stu> Hmm - maybe I will try opening the router fully for diagnostics then
[08:46] <Hobbsee> heh
[08:46] <celerex> Mac OS 9.2
[08:46] <Snake__> ME Ftw
[08:46] <TeamCanada|Silen> hehe
[08:46] <Warbo> Amiga Kickstart 1.3. Not the OS, just the hand
[08:47] <TeamCanada|Silen> if you run ME, you have too much patience
[08:47] <celerex> win 3.1
[08:47] <Warbo> ME was released far too close to 2000
[08:47] <TeamCanada|Silen> amen
[08:47] <TeamCanada|Silen> win 3.1 > all
[08:47] <TeamCanada|Silen> is there a win 3.1 theme for ubuntu?
[08:47] <slavik> MINIX!!!
[08:47] <Snake__> I want a LCARS DE for ubuntu..
[08:47] <FlannelKing> TeamCanada|Silen: it'd be a win3.1 theme for [gnome|kde|whatever WM] 
[08:48] <celerex> anyone used Sun's J2ee server?
[08:48] <Warbo> LCARS is available for Enlightenment DR16, which can replace Metacity
[08:48] <slavik> any port scanning tools on linux?
[08:48] <[Chameleon] > I had an LCARS like theme in Gnome a long time ago
[08:48] <FlannelKing> TeamCanada|Silen: I know there's an XP theme for kde.  ask on -offtopic, you'll have better luck.
[08:48] <TeamCanada|Silen> sorry about that admins... I think I started that mess
[08:48] <Snake__> Warbo: fortrill??
[08:48] <celerex> slavik: nmap
[08:48] <[Chameleon] > slavik: nmap and nmapfe
[08:48] <Warbo> fortrill?
[08:48] <Snake__> Warbo: do forward me?
[08:48] <slavik> one better than the other?
[08:48] <Warbo> Sorry, I don't get you?
[08:49] <Snake__> Warbo: heh, show me where this magical DE is located???
[08:49] <Warbo> Oh. hang on
[08:49] <Centaur5> I can't get into a terminal by pressing Ctrl+Alt+F1, how can I fix that?
[08:49] <mustard5> Centaur5, in what context are you experiencing this problem?
[08:50] <Warbo> snake: http://themes.freshmeat.net/projects/lcars/ and apt-get install enlightenment
[08:50] <Centaur5> I need to get to a vterm to reinstall video drivers but I hitting the Ctrl+Alt keys don't work anymore.
[08:50] <TeamCanada|Silen> : /
[08:51] <Centaur5> I'm using Dapper
[08:51] <roryy> Centaur5: what version of ubuntu
[08:51] <TeamCanada|Silen> what is KDE or Gnome ...
[08:51] <roryy> ah
[08:51] <roryy> #ubuntu+1
[08:51] <Centaur5> gnome
[08:51] <mustard5> Centaur5, so X has failed and you are without a gui?
[08:51] <TeamCanada|Silen> are they like explorer.exe?
[08:51] <tonyyarusso> TeamCanada|Silen: More like the entire graphical experience.
[08:51] <tonyyarusso> TeamCanada|Silen: I recommend either checking out some screenshots or trying both yourself.
[08:51] <Centaur5> No, I installed XGL but it was more than what I wanted so I uninstalled it and I got back into X but my drivers uninstalled with XGL
[08:51] <TeamCanada|Silen> which one is easier?
[08:52] <PwcrLinux> TeamCanada|Silen: "File Browser" when you open HOME icon and look at the folders..
[08:52] <TeamCanada|Silen> only want one answer
[08:52] <TeamCanada|Silen> no battles
[08:52] <TeamCanada|Silen> plz
[08:52] <tonyyarusso> TeamCanada|Silen: Personal preferance.  Honestly.
[08:52] <TeamCanada|Silen> k
[08:52] <Warbo> tonyyarusso: Microsoft philosophy is get explorer to do everything. Then it crashes
[08:52] <roryy> TeamCanada|Silen: for idle chat, could you join #ubuntu-offtopic ?
[08:52] <tonyyarusso> Warbo: Yep.
[08:52] <mustard5> Centaur5, hmmm..I wonder whether unistalling xgl has taken your vterms with it
[08:52] <Snake__> Warbo: woah looks intresting!
[08:52] <Snake__> nice find :)
[08:52] <slavik> what is port 631 used by?
[08:52] <Warbo> It's VERY old! (About 1999)
[08:52] <Snake__> is it usable? Like....not some POS de?
[08:53] <Centaur5> mustard5: Actually now that I think about it I couldn't get into a vterm when I had XGL installed.
[08:53] <Warbo> But once you get used to it it's quite cool
[08:53] <TeamCanada|Silen> how do I change between KDE or Gnome... are those the only two?
[08:53] <dli> slavik, cupsys
[08:53] <monsterb> Ubuntu/Gnome is the only way to go!
[08:53] <[Chameleon] > TeamCanada|Silen: there are more
[08:53] <fxc065> is there a tute on how to partition my hd with ubuntu and win
[08:53] <mustard5> Centaur5, do you think you might be able to get to recovery mode?
[08:53] <Centaur5> mustard5: Until I crashed X by uninstalling it and had no other way to login  :)
[08:53] <Warbo> snake: I used to swear by Enlightenment, but switched to Metacity due to can't be botheredness
[08:53] <slavik> is cupsys on by default?
[08:53] <Snake__> Warbo: so it is usable right? Ive had some lcar themes that totally sucked
[08:53] <Hobbsee> TeamCanada|Silen: there's xfce as well, choose them via the login screen
[08:53] <[Chameleon] > TeamCanada|Silen: but install both GNOME & KDE and then when you login, click the Session or Options/Session button to decide which to use
[08:53] <dli> TeamCanada|Silen, you can select your session in gdm before login, of course, you have to install packages first
[08:54] <Snake__> Warbo: and I can get to enlightment with the login screen right?
[08:54] <[Chameleon] > TeamCanada|Silen: there's all kinds of window managers.
[08:54] <TeamCanada|Silen> chameleon, I want an auto-login
[08:54] <Centaur5> mustard5: Recovery mode? Off the boot cd?
[08:54] <Warbo> snake: Yes, completely usable, and the idea behind Enlightenment (or just "E") is that a theme can customise EVERYTHING, including interface design
[08:54] <TeamCanada|Silen> so how would I do this frim inside the environment
[08:54] <mustard5> Centaur5, usually through the grub menu choices
[08:54] <Smerity> Has anyone tried Openbox in Ubuntu? I love Openbox =) Like 35 seconds to boot to X in Gentoo!
[08:54] <monsterb> fxc065: what is a tute?
[08:54] <Centaur5> mustard5: I probably can
[08:54] <Warbo> Snake: Well E can be run by itself, or you can replace Metacity with it in GNOME
[08:54] <mustard5> Centaur5, there is usually a kernel option with '(recovery mode)' written after it
[08:54] <[Chameleon] > TeamCanada|Silen: there's an option in GDM, the initial login screen.
[08:55] <TeamCanada|Silen> k
[08:55] <mustard5> Centaur5, it will drop you to a root prompt
[08:55] <[Chameleon] > TeamCanada|Silen: but it's quite insecure to do that.
[08:55] <[Chameleon] > dli: http://paul.thepcphysician.com/temp/Chameleon's%20Desktop.png
[08:55] <mendi> hello everybody!
[08:55] <TeamCanada|Silen> I need to though
[08:55] <fxc065> last concern... is there a tute on how to partition my hd with ubuntu and win
[08:55] <Centaur5> mustard5: Okay, what will I need to do from there?
[08:55] <TeamCanada|Silen> I have no monitor for my server
[08:55] <ericdavis> Smerity: I tried openbox for a while, ion3 now
[08:55] <monsterb> What's a tute?
[08:55] <mustard5> Centaur5, attempt to reinstall the drivers
[08:55] <DeMoNSeED> tutorial
[08:55] <[Chameleon] > TeamCanada|Silen: what does that matter? I have no monitor or keyboard or mouse on my server.
[08:55] <fxc065> tutorial*
[08:55] <mustard5> Centaur5, or reconfigure xorg to use vesa drivers or something like that
[08:55] <monsterb> oh - my bad
[08:55] <TeamCanada|Silen> how can I login?
[08:55] <[Chameleon] > SSH
[08:56] <mendi> im using gui for connecting to internet via dialup, but i can't see the progress (whether it is connected or connecting, etc) in windows it is clear
[08:56] <fxc065> or prolly ehowcom
[08:56] <mustard5> TeamCanada|Silen, you would ssh in
[08:56] <TeamCanada|Silen> is that from a different computer?
[08:56] <mustard5> TeamCanada|Silen, yep
[08:56] <[Chameleon] > yes
[08:56] <TeamCanada|Silen> windows?
[08:56] <[Chameleon] > use putty
[08:56] <mustard5> TeamCanada|Silen, you se putty from windows
[08:56] <TeamCanada|Silen> ah
[08:56] <dli> [Chameleon] , looks great, I couldn't get transparent gnome-terminal :(
[08:56] <TeamCanada|Silen> I've heard of putty
[08:56] <Centaur5> mustard5: Okay, well do you think that it's a possibility that the key shortcuts have been modified and that's why I can't get into a vterm?
[08:56] <[Chameleon] > dli: I'm using XGL
[08:56] <TeamCanada|Silen> sorta like rcon right?
[08:56] <[Chameleon] > TeamCanada|Silen: it's a windows SSH client
[08:56] <TeamCanada|Silen> remote console
[08:56] <mustard5> Centaur5, quite possible I suppose, but I couldnt say with any certitude
[08:56] <fxc065> thanks guys
[08:56] <[Chameleon] > TeamCanada|Silen: SSH is like rcon but with encryption over the connection.
[08:57] <Centaur5> mustard5: Cause it's kind of strange that Alt+left arrow key doesn't work anymore in firefox to go back a page
[08:57] <monsterb> fxc065 check out GParted liveCD - very easy to use
[08:57] <dli> [Chameleon] , with compiz-vanilla or ?
[08:57] <TeamCanada|Silen> hence the "Secure", i assume?
[08:57] <fxc065> transgress*
[08:57] <[Chameleon] > dli: yeah, compiz
[08:57] <Hobbsee> Centaur5: i thought that hte backspace key was to do that
[08:57] <fxc065> tonyyarusso **
[08:57] <[Chameleon] > dli: dual-head on an nVidia 6600 GT
[08:57] <Centaur5> Hobbsee: Not by default
[08:57] <dli> [Chameleon] , can you play video at double size of fullscreen
[08:57] <slavik> in firestarter, what does "lock firewall" mean?
[08:57] <mendi> in windows it is clear whether u r connected or not
[08:57] <monsterb> fxc065 check out GParted liveCD - very easy to use
[08:57] <[Chameleon] > dli: what do you mean "double size of full screen"?
[08:57] <TeamCanada|Silen> slavik, no traffic?
[08:57] <Hobbsee> Centaur5: weird, might be as a result of the mozilla binaries, cos it does on mine
[08:57] <noiesmo> slavik, nothing in or out
[08:58] <mendi> does linux have anything to show the progress or process abt dialup connection?
[08:58] <slavik> ahh, I see
[08:58] <dli> [Chameleon] , in totem, you can select 2:1 video size
[08:58] <[Chameleon] > dli: stretched across both monitors?
[08:58] <[Chameleon] > dli: yeah, of course
[08:58] <slavik> now I need to get rid of cupsys :P
[08:58] <Centaur5> Hobbsee: I have no idea, I use that quite often in windows and linux
[08:58] <Warbo> mendi: You should get a window saying "Sending password" and stuff (that's with GNOME dialup tool)
[08:58] <dli> [Chameleon] , you sure? totem runs extremely slow with double size video
[08:58] <PwcrLinux> slavik: Lock firewall does stopping traffics, act like ZoneAlarm does..
[08:59] <[Chameleon] > dli: all my video is on my file server which is down at the moment.
[08:59] <dli> [Chameleon] , firefox gives me font rendering problems also
[08:59] <[Chameleon] > dli: let me find something
[08:59] <Warbo> dli: Do you use gstreamer with totem? It can get out of sync really bad
[08:59] <[Chameleon] > oh wait, I've got some vids on the desktop
[08:59] <slavik> do I have to keepfirestarter running to track connections and such?
[08:59] <Centaur5> mustard5: Is there a way to adjust the key shortcuts like that?  I didn't see anything under System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts
[08:59] <[Chameleon] > dli: honesly I do not use Totem
[08:59] <TeamCanada|Silen> The debootstrap program exited with an error (return value 1). Check /target/var/log/bootstrap.log for the details
[08:59] <[Chameleon] > dli: it sucks.
[08:59] <TeamCanada|Silen> there it is
[08:59] <[Chameleon] > dli: I use gxine or VLC
[08:59] <dli> Warbo, it runs smoothly without xgl :(
[08:59] <Warbo> I like totem
[08:59] <[Chameleon] > I like the UI, but it's not stable enough yet
[08:59] <mendi> Warbo: how? im newbie
[09:00] <Warbo> GXine exists solely for listening to the 2 radio stations that work in the "Rock" section :)
[09:00] <noiesmo> slavik, just set and forget you can have it running on desktop if you want it will start at boot time
[09:00] <dli> [Chameleon] , oh, didn't test vlc, too many problems, I switched back :(
[09:00] <slavik> how do I stop the printing server?
[09:00] <TeamCanada|Silen> warbo?
[09:00] <dli> slavik, sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys stop
[09:00] <slavik> so it starts on startup?
[09:00] <slavik> dli: I don't want it to start ever
[09:00] <Warbo> TeamCanada|Silen: OK, you know I'm not really an expert
[09:01] <TeamCanada|Silen> O RLY?
[09:01] <monsterb> fxc065 check out GParted liveCD - very easy to use
[09:01] <TeamCanada|Silen> any experts in the house?
[09:01] <Warbo> mendi: What does it say in your menu under Internet for dial up?
[09:01] <dli> slavik, why not just remove it? "apt-get remove cupsys"
[09:01] <slavik> ubuntu-desktop depends on it
[09:01] <slavik> not a good idea
[09:01] <DeMoNSeED> fxc065, go here http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[09:01] <Warbo> "sudo apt-get install gnome-ppp" that's the siomple one
[09:01] <[Chameleon] > dli: yeah, VLC does tend to crash metacity
[09:01] <dli> slavik, sudo update-rc.d -f cupsys remove"
[09:01] <[Chameleon] > and sometimes XGL
[09:01] <mustard5> TeamCanada|Silen, can you burn the disk at a slower rate than 32x?
[09:01] <slavik> I see
[09:02] <TeamCanada|Silen> I can, but why would that matter?
[09:02] <Warbo> mustard5: It's not the disc, he got mail order
[09:02] <dli> [Chameleon] , I think I have to wait
[09:02] <Centaur5> mustard5: Thanks for the help, I'll reinstall those drivers and call it good.
[09:02] <[Chameleon] > dli: totem pisses me off because it bitches about not having codecs when I can play the videos just fine in gxine.
[09:02] <slavik> hmm, do I need CUPS if I have a printer connected to a windows system?
[09:02] <TeamCanada|Silen> the mail order doesn't work either
[09:02] <[Chameleon] > I hate totem
[09:02] <slavik> the server
[09:02] <mustard5> TeamCanada|Silen, well its an angle to try if nothing else works
[09:02] <Warbo> GStreamer is great (especially 0.10)
[09:02] <TeamCanada|Silen> k
[09:02] <TeamCanada|Silen> I'll try livecd
[09:03] <dli> [Chameleon] , for me, mplayer can play everything :)
[09:03] <[Chameleon] > slavik: yeah, I think you need cups to print at all
[09:03] <noiesmo> mplayer rocks
[09:03] <mustard5> TeamCanada|Silen, I take it you have done the verify media check when the install starts up?
[09:03] <[Chameleon] > dli: yeah, mplayer is OK, but it is weird on my setup.
[09:03] <slavik> hmm, anything about cups being compromised?
[09:03] <dli> [Chameleon] , however, mplayer uses more cpu than totem, that's why I tested totem
[09:03] <Warbo> Chameleon: I hate things with skins. If you don't like your theme then get one you like, if you have one you like why use a skin?
[09:03] <[Chameleon] > dli: because I have dual-head, it stretches the video double wide all of the time.
[09:03] <[Chameleon] > Warbo: heh, yeah.
[09:03] <mendi> Warbo: i don't have any menu for dial up
[09:03] <TeamCanada|Silen> how do I do that mustard?
[09:04] <dli> mendi, is your modem supported?
[09:04] <TeamCanada|Silen> I did the md5 check
[09:04] <mustard5> TeamCanada|Silen, I believe the options are shown by hitting the functions keys at the boot: prompt
[09:04] <[Chameleon] > Warbo: Gstreamer has a ways to go before it's great, but it is very nice.
[09:04] <Warbo> mendi: Are you in Ubuntu? Go into System > Administration > Synaptic Package Manager
[09:04] <Warbo> Chameleon: It is. Flash thumbnails is fantastic (although it somethimes crashes!)
[09:04] <[Chameleon] > mustard5: actually, I think the media check option was not obvious prior to Dapper
[09:05] <[Chameleon] > Warbo: is that something based on gstreamer?
[09:05] <TeamCanada|Silen> uhh
[09:05] <[Chameleon] > Warbo: diva has a lot of promise. I'm excited about that.
[09:05] <Warbo> Chameleon: There is a basic GPL SWF player for Gstreamer, and it makes thumbnails of swf files like videos
[09:05] <TeamCanada|Silen> Grub loading stage1.5 grub loading, please wait... error 17
[09:05] <boydubai> guys... how i tried installing jre in my ubuntu and i followed the instruction from sun... yet it doesn't work...
[09:05] <TeamCanada|Silen> locked system
[09:05] <DeMoNSeED> is diva available yet?
[09:06] <[Chameleon] > Warbo: ah
[09:06] <boydubai> please help.
[09:06] <[Chameleon] > DeMoNSeED: an early alpha
[09:06] <DeMoNSeED> k, thanks
[09:06] <roryy> !tell boydubai about javadebs
[09:06] <Warbo> boydubai: Try installing the one already in Ubuntu. It's called j2re1.4
[09:06] <DeMoNSeED> install the jre in repos boydubai
[09:06] <roryy> boydubai: i think you'll find that easier
[09:07] <DeMoNSeED> but i agree, it looks awesome
[09:08] <[Chameleon] > http://www.diva-project.org/
[09:08] <boydubai> ok... thanks... let me check it first... i'm a newbie in linux...i know u understand. :)
[09:09] <boydubai> what does repos mean?
[09:09] <DeMoNSeED> yup, no prob, we all been there at some point
[09:09] <dli> [Chameleon] , how do you install xgl in ubuntu?
[09:09] <PwcrLinux> Repository
[09:09] <Warbo> boydubai: The "repositories" are full of software packages
[09:09] <mustard5> TeamCanada|Silen, when you boot from the CD you should be able to hit the function keys to see other options to use with the install cd
[09:09] <mlowe> when i do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg it will not overwite one of the files in /etc/X11, can i just remove then and will it create new ones ?
[09:09] <[Chameleon] > dli: there's a howto on the wiki
[09:10] <[Chameleon] > dli: I followed it
[09:10] <Warbo> mlowe: try moving the file then trying, if not then move it back
[09:10] <noiesmo> mlowe, it will back up the xorg.conf file then write one
[09:10] <[Chameleon] > boydubai: like a software library/collection
[09:10] <DeMoNSeED> try bringing up your software repositories via System>Administration
[09:10] <dli> [Chameleon] , I see, ubuntu is fast
[09:10] <[Chameleon] > boydubai: specifically built for your OS
[09:10] <[Chameleon] > dli: yeah, always at the forefront
[09:10] <mlowe> Warbo, noiesmo thankyou
[09:10] <DeMoNSeED> Synaptic Package Manager
[09:11] <dli> [Chameleon] , faster than gentoo?
[09:11] <TeamCanada|Silen> f1 - this page, the help index / f2 - prerequisites for installing ubuntu / f3 boot methods for special ways of using this cd-rom / f4 special boot parameters, overview / f5 special boot parameters for special machines / f6 special boot parameters for selected disk controllers / f7 special boot parameters for the install system / f8 how to get help / f9 about the ubuntu project / f10 - copyrights and warranties
[09:12] <[Chameleon] > dli: you mean performance or software updates?
[09:12] <TeamCanada|Silen> where is the media check
[09:12] <dli> [Chameleon] , no, I mean package building
[09:12] <[Chameleon] > dli: I've never personally used Gentoo, but I think they would probably have newer software sooner since the end-users can more easily use the source.
[09:13] <mustard5> TeamCanada|Silen, f3 sounds like a good place to look
[09:13] <[Chameleon] > dli: but Ubuntu is a lot faster than Fedora
[09:13] <[Chameleon] > at that
[09:13] <dli> [Chameleon] , fedora sucks :(
[09:13] <[Chameleon] > sort of
[09:13] <TeamCanada|Silen> there is a memtest
[09:13] <[Chameleon] > it sure has become bloated
[09:13] <TeamCanada|Silen> no media test though
[09:13] <TeamCanada|Silen> is that memtest86?
[09:13] <dli> [Chameleon] , I used since rh7.3, the more you use rh, the more it sucks
[09:14] <jsmestad> Question: I just did the cleartype font mod for ubuntu and everything is working but my console font is still screwed up. Anyone know how to fix this?
[09:14] <[Chameleon] > TeamCanada|Silen: no. what are you booting? Breezy?
[09:14] <mustard5> TeamCanada|Silen, anything referring to 'verify' ?
[09:14] <[Chameleon] > dli: I used it since 7.1 or 7.2
[09:14] <[Chameleon] > and I agree
[09:14] <mustard5> [Chameleon] , he's looking at the extra options on an install CD
[09:14] <skp> mustard5, no luck ... ATI X1800 - Ubuntu 5.10 -
[09:14] <dli> [Chameleon] , finally, I switched all rh boxes in my control to debian
[09:14] <TeamCanada|Silen> available boot methods: linux, expert, server, server-expert, memtest
[09:14] <[Chameleon] > mustard5: I think he'll have to boot it to do the test.
[09:14] <mustard5> skp, not supported by those drivers in the HOW TO?
[09:15] <[Chameleon] > TeamCanada|Silen: do expert
[09:15] <TeamCanada|Silen> alright
[09:15] <skp> mustard5, installation acc to this page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI went well
[09:15] <TeamCanada|Silen> but you gotta help me
[09:15] <[Chameleon] > TeamCanada|Silen: once you get to the menu, there should be an option toward the bottom for media check / verify
[09:15] <TeamCanada|Silen> ok
[09:15] <TeamCanada|Silen> brb
[09:15] <skp> mustartd5 , but ofcourse ir cudnt load the module fglrx ...
[09:15] <[Chameleon] > dli: I've got 1 box still running FC3
[09:16] <[Chameleon] > dli: my clunky file server
[09:16] <TeamCanada|Silen> its loading a bunch of stuff
[09:16] <TeamCanada|Silen> moving too fast cant read it
[09:16] <boydubai> i was able to open the repo but what shall i do next? everything (sources) are ticked...
[09:16] <Warbo> Anyone running Install in QEmu? Maybe run as fast as a 333MHZ?
[09:16] <DeMoNSeED> reload
[09:16] <[Chameleon] > TeamCanada|Silen: just ask when there's a question you can't answer.
[09:16] <jsmestad> Question: I just did the cleartype font mod for ubuntu and everything is working but my console font is still screwed up. Anyone know how to fix this?
[09:16] <jsmestad> http://www.darksyntax.com/Screenshot.png
[09:16] <mustard5> skp, was the error covered in the troubleshooting section at the bottom of that page?
[09:16] <DeMoNSeED> then search for j2re
[09:16] <dli> [Chameleon] , If I were you, I would still switch to debian :(
[09:16] <[Chameleon] > TeamCanada|Silen: should eventually get to a colorful blueish menu with a lot of options.
[09:16] <[Chameleon] > dli: I plan to switch it to Ubuntu
[09:16] <skp> mustard5, nope
[09:16] <[Chameleon] > dli: perhaps very soon
[09:17] <mustard5> skp, hmmm... you might have an ATI card that is going to prove difficult
[09:17] <dli> [Chameleon] , for a file server, debian-stable is better
[09:17] <skp> mustard5, looks like that ... well tell me one thing
[09:17] <[Chameleon] > dli: yeah, probably
[09:17] <Warbo> boydubai: You have the Universe and Multiverse ticked? then keep choosing OK and Add until you get to the normal view
[09:18] <[Chameleon] > jsmestad: that looks like crap... but you probably want to check under Preferences / Fonts
[09:18] <skp> mustard5, how do i upgrade glibc ... I know its too lame
[09:18] <[Chameleon] > jsmestad: er wait, no
[09:18] <dli> skp, apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[09:18] <skp> mustard5, but as of now I have glibc 2.1 and ATI driver installer needs a glibc2.2 >
[09:18] <noiesmo> skp, looks like you need ATI 8.24.8 Display Drivers there on dapper 6.06
[09:19] <mustard5> skp, and what is your currently installed version showing?
[09:19] <[Chameleon] > jsmestad: er wait, yeah.
[09:19] <Morrowyn> how good are the ati drivers on linux?
[09:19] <DeMoNSeED> he's probably not fully updated then either if he's just activating those repos now
[09:19] <mustard5> skp, ah k
[09:19] <skp> mustard5,2.1
[09:19] <[Chameleon] > jsmestad: in the Font dialog, change the Fixed Width font
[09:19] <jsmestad> I have tried different fonts and still nothing. EVERYTHING renders that way.
[09:19] <mustard5> skp, they might have a new version in the Dapper drake development version of Ubuntu
[09:19] <skp> noiesmo, hey I have 5.10
[09:19] <slavik> night
[09:19] <mustard5> skp, check http://packages.ubuntu.com
[09:19] <[Chameleon] > jsmestad: OK, go back to gnome-terminal and to Edit / Current Profile
[09:19] <skp> mustard5, kewl lemme c
[09:19] <mustard5> skp, you can search for the dapper version of glibc
[09:19] <[Chameleon] > jsmestad: is the "Use the system terminal font" checked or not?
[09:19] <jsmestad> yep im there/.
[09:20] <TeamCanada|Silen> chameleon, I clicked on the cd rom integrity check and it gave me a dialogue of modules matching my hardware, should leave all selected?
[09:20] <jsmestad> it i
[09:20] <jsmestad> is*
[09:20] <skp> mustard5, yeah lemme try that thnks again
[09:20] <Centaur5> mustard5: Thanks, recovery mode worked perfect now I'm going to configure xorg.conf to work with both my video cards.
[09:20] <mustard5> Centaur5, good luck :)
[09:20] <[Chameleon] > jsmestad: hmm, sucky, I dunno
[09:20] <Centaur5> mustard5: I'm excited  :)
[09:21] <[Chameleon] > TeamCanada|Silen: you clicked?? or used arrows and pressed enter?
[09:21] <TeamCanada|Silen> centaur, you running SLI or crossfire?
[09:21] <mustard5> Centaur5, make a backup of your working xorg.conf ;)
[09:21] <[Chameleon] > TeamCanada|Silen: I don't think it's mouse driven
[09:21] <TeamCanada|Silen> oh yeah.. sorry
[09:21] <TeamCanada|Silen> :(
[09:21] <[Chameleon] > heh, ok
[09:21] <[Chameleon] > TeamCanada|Silen: um... yeah, do that
[09:21] <TeamCanada|Silen> so used to windows having a mouse for everything
[09:21] <[Chameleon] > TeamCanada|Silen: :)
[09:21] <TeamCanada|Silen> this was more like a bios
[09:21] <TeamCanada|Silen> ok
[09:21] <[Chameleon] > yeah, it's a text interface
[09:21] <Centaur5> TeamCanada|Silen: A Vaio with integrated intel 950 and geforce 7400 with a switch to choose how much battery life I want
[09:21] <roryy> skp: ubuntu 5.10 has glibc 2.3.5; it should not be reporting 2.1
[09:22] <noiesmo> !tell noiesmo about dapper
[09:22] <[Chameleon] > Centaur5: that's interesting... so you can dynamically choose the video at runtime or only at bootup?
[09:22] <jsmestad> Chameleon: how do u do the name in the front of each line like that?
[09:22] <mustard5> roryy, good find..I should have looked up the version in 5.10
[09:22] <[Chameleon] > jsmestad: start typing part of the name and press tab. my client auto-completes names.
[09:22] <TeamCanada|Silen> Some modules accept load-time parameters to customize their operation. If you;d like, you can be prompted for module parameters as each module is loaded. Prompt for module parameters? <yes> <No>
[09:22] <skp> roryy, hi ... its like ATI driver installer .. says so.....
[09:23] <jsmestad> ah ok
[09:23] <skp> roryy, how do I otherwise confirm ??
[09:23] <roryy> skp: have you installed build-essential ?
[09:23] <mustard5> skp, try installing the -dev package for glibc version you need
[09:23] <boydubai> what will happen to the installation that i just did from Sun Micro? should i remove it?
[09:23] <[Chameleon] > TeamCanada|Silen: um, no
[09:23] <TeamCanada|Silen> k
[09:23] <Centaur5> Chameleon: at boot up, I found a simple script that will detect which card is switched over then it copies the appropriate xorg.conf file to /etc/X11/xorg.conf to make X work with that card
[09:23] <skp> roryy, yes ..
[09:23] <roryy> skp: dpkg -l libc6
[09:23] <[Chameleon] > Centaur5: cool
[09:24] <skp> mustard5, thats the problem I m not getting one from repos...
[09:24] <skp> roryy, ok lemme try that
[09:24] <roryy> if you have a different libc version and you're running 5.10, something is very wrong
[09:24] <mendy> Warbo: sorry, i was disconnected
[09:24] <mendy> i have synaptic
[09:24] <mendy> what to do next?
[09:24] <TeamCanada|Silen> This computer may have a PCMCIA interface. Please choose whether PC card services should be started in order to allow the use of PCMCIA cards. Start PC card services? <Yes> <No>
[09:24] <Warbo> mendy: To get gnome dial up tool?
[09:25] <skp> roryy , yes its showing 2.3.5 ... but then ati-installer 8.24.8 is failing sayin you are running Debian / glibc-2.1
[09:25] <Warbo> mendy Go in synaptic and go on Settings Repositories
[09:25] <mendy> Warbo: yes
[09:25] <[Chameleon] > TeamCanada|Silen: is it a laptop? if not, select No
[09:25] <dli> Warbo, wvdial is a great tool :)
[09:25] <TeamCanada|Silen> not laptop
[09:25] <Warbo> In there ther is an "Add" button, click it
[09:25] <Warbo> dli: wvdial has gnome-ppp frontend
[09:26] <mendy> ok
[09:26] <dli> Warbo, try it out, does your modem work?
[09:26] <skp> mustard5, I have the devs for libc6 too ...
[09:26] <Warbo> mendy: There should be some check boxes, put a tick in Universe and Mutiverse and click Add or OK or whatever is there
[09:26] <fxc065> wowwww
[09:26] <Warbo> dli: I'm on broadband now, with USB modem :)
[09:26] <fxc065> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Shuttleworth
[09:27] <mendy> Warbo: i did
[09:27] <dli> Warbo, yes, but what about the dialup modem?
[09:27] <Warbo> mendy: OK, so it should then be reloaded (the lists I mean)
[09:27] <dli> Warbo, sorry, wrong nick :(
[09:27] <TeamCanada|Silen> The CD-ROM autodetection was successful. A CD-ROM drive has been found and it currently contains the CD Ubuntu 5.10 "Breezy Badger" - Release 1386 (20051012). The installation will now continue.
[09:27] <TeamCanada|Silen> is the check done?
[09:28] <mendy> Warbo: it is downloading somethng
[09:28] <Warbo> mendy: Yes, it is finding out what packages exist
[09:28] <Warbo> mendy: When it is done click search and search for "gnome-ppp"
[09:28] <mendy> Warbo: my dial up is very slow
[09:28] <mendy> still downloading Warbo
[09:29] <[Chameleon] > TeamCanada|Silen: don't think it's even begun yet
[09:29] <TeamCanada|Silen> k
[09:29] <[Chameleon] > TeamCanada|Silen: however, it may be going too far
[09:29] <Warbo> mendy: Fine, it's only small anyway. Shouldn't take long
[09:29] <dli> mendy, which modem are you using?
[09:29] <TeamCanada|Silen> oohh
[09:29] <TeamCanada|Silen> ok its going now
[09:29] <TeamCanada|Silen> thanks
[09:29] <mendy> ok Warbo
[09:29] <[Chameleon] > TeamCanada|Silen: I don't want to make you loose the data on that machine with an install of ubuntu
[09:29] <Warbo> dli: At this point I hope it's external!
[09:29] <[Chameleon] > TeamCanada|Silen: OK, good
[09:29] <bliss1_> DBO: hi hapy easter
[09:29] <[Chameleon] > TeamCanada|Silen: and with that I'm going to bed
[09:29] <Warbo> mendy: OK, search for "gnome-ppp" in Synaptic
[09:30] <TeamCanada|Silen> there is no data dont worry
[09:30] <TeamCanada|Silen> k
[09:30] <TeamCanada|Silen> night
[09:30] <roryy> skp: i am looking for a way to test glibc version from within a c program; i'll let you know when i find something
[09:30] <[Chameleon] > TeamCanada|Silen: you want my IM?
[09:30] <dli> Warbo, it took me long time to find a cheap linux compatible modem for my friend
[09:30] <TeamCanada|Silen> what is it?
[09:30] <TeamCanada|Silen> aim?
[09:30] <TeamCanada|Silen> msn?
[09:30] <[Chameleon] > TeamCanada|Silen: which one do you want? I use all
[09:30] <mendy> Warbo, winmodem with slmodem
[09:30] <mendy> Warbo, im at laptop
[09:30] <TeamCanada|Silen> xfire o_O
[09:30] <[Chameleon] > TeamCanada|Silen: heh, except that
[09:31] <TeamCanada|Silen> msn is good
[09:31] <TeamCanada|Silen> pm
[09:31] <dli> mendy, that's good :) linuxant sucks
[09:31] <Warbo> dli: Ebay, 50p. No "compatible" needed. It just needs to be a proper modem. I hacked together a dodgy serial cable for my old Amiga 33k modem, which itself was in fact a PC modem. They are all the same, except for internal
[09:31] <Warbo> mendy: OK, that should be fine (I used to use it)
[09:31] <Warbo> mendy: have you found the "gnome-ppp" package yet?
[09:31] <boydubai> [C] hris, i've heard about WINE that i can run windows files... is it installed when i install ubuntu?
[09:32] <[Chameleon] > boydubai: I think not by default
[09:32] <boydubai> W: GPG error: http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[09:32] <boydubai> W: GPG error: http://ae.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-backports Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[09:32] <boydubai> what does it mean?
[09:32] <boydubai> [Chameleon] , can i find it in repo? how can i install it in ubuntu?
[09:32] <Warbo> boydubai: Not important really. It means that the repositories can't be verified as legitimate. They are fine though
[09:32] <feller> and then the bartended said, join Ubuntu!
[09:33] <dli> Warbo, what's the price for such kind of modems? I found $20 CAN
[09:33] <boydubai> ok
[09:33] <j-o-s> join #beginner
[09:33] <boydubai> what, Warbo
[09:33] <TeamCanada|Silen> integrity test failed!
[09:33] <Warbo> dli: Shop around, loads of people are switching to broadband
[09:33] <TeamCanada|Silen> well that'll do it
[09:33] <roryy> huh. you can execute the libc.so
[09:33] <TeamCanada|Silen> should I write at 1x ?
[09:33] <Warbo> mendy?
[09:33] <TeamCanada|Silen> :S
[09:33] <[Chameleon] > dli: any new modem below about $40 USD is probably a WinModem and not easily usable in Linux.
[09:34] <TeamCanada|Silen> my isp supplies free modems
[09:34] <roryy> skp: if you *really* want to confirm that it is 2.3.5, and it almost certainly is, you can do this: 'sudo chmod u+x /lib/libc-2.3.5.so' and then 'sudo /lib/libc-2.3.5.so'  which will output the version
[09:34] <dli> [Chameleon] , haha, I got a good deal, $20 CAN, brand new, shipping included
[09:34] <roryy> skp: i do not know what the long term implications of leaving libc u+x are (i doubt any)
[09:34] <Warbo> dli: Shipping to?
[09:34] <DeMoNSeED> shaw?
[09:34] <boydubai> [Chameleon] , is deb command doesn't work with ubuntu?
[09:34] <[Chameleon] > dli: are you sure it's NOT a winmodem?
[09:34] <dli> [Chameleon] , and it does work in linux
[09:34] <[Chameleon] > cool
[09:34] <yipe> I used easy ubuntu to install the embedded media player for firefox.... how do I either disable it or uninstall it?
[09:35] <dli> Warbo, to and from canada
[09:35] <[Chameleon] > boydubai: I don't understand you dude
[09:35] <Warbo> dli. Oh.
[09:35] <boydubai> why can't i install files in .rpm format?
[09:35] <roryy> skp: anyway, it looks like either the ati driver install doesn't work on ubuntu, or you are missing some development files.  I recommend using the ubuntu provided drivers
[09:35] <TeamCanada|Silen> chameleon, should I write to a RW at 1x so I can redo it if it goes bad? I don't want to use up any more CD-Rs
[09:35] <[Chameleon] > boydubai: because ubuntu is not Red Hat
[09:35] <TeamCanada|Silen> the test failed
[09:35] <boydubai> ic
[09:35] <dli> [Chameleon] , sure, it's /dev/ttyS0
[09:35] <netman1> Hi All. Using Breezy. Implemented LDAP. Lost some user info. Can someone tell me the /etc/passwd and /etc/group info of the user with id 94 and group with id 141?
[09:35] <Nameeater> does apt auto dl repo updates?
[09:35] <boydubai> thanks, [Chameleon] 
[09:35] <[Chameleon] > boydubai: try using Alien to convert from RPM to DEB... or better yet, try searching in Synaptic.
[09:36] <boydubai> ok
[09:36] <boydubai> thanks.
[09:36] <Ric> how do i install openoffice thru apt-get?
[09:36] <FlannelKing> Ric: it's already installed... unless you removed it.
[09:36] <[Chameleon] > dli: but does it work?
[09:36] <[Chameleon] > TeamCanada|Silen: yeah, use an RW and write it slow
[09:36] <Ric> FlannelKing: i'm using xubuntu desktop
[09:36] <[Chameleon] > TeamCanada|Silen: what max speed is your burner?
[09:36] <TeamCanada|Silen> k
[09:36] <dli> [Chameleon] , yes :)
[09:37] <TeamCanada|Silen> :S
[09:37] <[Chameleon] > TeamCanada|Silen: on an RW?
[09:37] <TeamCanada|Silen> ill check
[09:37] <[Chameleon] > TeamCanada|Silen: it should say on front
[09:37] <TeamCanada|Silen> 10
[09:37] <DeMoNSeED> 4x is good on an RW
[09:37] <yipe> I used easy ubuntu to install the embedded media player for firefox.... how do I either disable it or uninstall it?
[09:37] <[Chameleon] > TeamCanada|Silen: yeah, so do 4x like DeMoNSeED said
[09:37] <TeamCanada|Silen> k
[09:37] <TeamCanada|Silen> thanks
[09:37] <yipe> I want media to open in amarok and videos in totem again
[09:37] <yipe> I liked that better
[09:37] <PwcrLinux> 4x best to burn ISO files
[09:38] <yipe> s/media/music
[09:38] <Warbo> yipe: Depends on the player. They are all just packages, but one might say "vlc", one might say "totem" and another is "mplayer"
[09:38] <dli> [Chameleon] , this one :) http://www.actiontec.com/products/broadband/usb_ser_x-modem/index.php
[09:38] <boydubai> Ubuntu is very cooooo!!!!! i'm a newbie and i really like it.
[09:38] <DeMoNSeED> too many think faster is better with iso's
[09:38] <boydubai> i mean i'm starting to like it!
[09:38] <TeamCanada|Silen> cant wait till I can get ubuntu goin, I've heard many good things today ^^
[09:38] <Warbo> yipe: look for the "xxxxx-mozilla-plugin" where xxxx is your media player
[09:38] <yipe> that didn't really answer my question
[09:38] <yipe> okay
[09:38] <[Chameleon] > dli: wow, external even... I'm impressed.
[09:38] <DeMoNSeED> brb
[09:39] <bliss1_> DBO: i send you a pastebin yeserday to look at heres the re ACPI hers the full lernel log  http://pastebin.ca/49443    thanks stay cool :)
[09:39] <Warbo> yipe: Uninstall these plugin packages (with Synaptic) and they will be gone
[09:39] <Ric> i says: Package openoffice is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[09:39] <Ric> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[09:39] <Ric> is only available from another source
[09:39] <Warbo> yipe: Also Epiphany always opens things in external player
[09:39] <dli> [Chameleon] , it took me long to find this one, only $20 CAN
[09:39] <yipe> I use gnome
[09:40] <FlannelKing> Ric: alright, well, there's probably a "open office" package, search for it, then install it.
[09:40] <yipe> basically exclusively
[09:40] <roryy> the package is openoffice.org2
[09:40] <dli> [Chameleon] , after it works, my friend installed the driver for his zd1211 usb wireless, and picked up signal from a commuist neighbor :)
[09:40] <boydubai> i already ticked all the the necessary options in repo... but still i can't run java applets
[09:40] <yipe> hmmmmm, I'm gonna have to do this when I'm more awake, a search in synaptic for "mozilla-plugin" only came up with packages I haven't yet installed
[09:40] <boydubai> i've updated and applied programs concerning java.
[09:41] <Warbo> boydubai: Install the j2re1.4 and j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin packages
[09:41] <boydubai> warbo, sorry but i need to ask how? should i download it from the java.sun.com?
[09:41] <dli> [Chameleon] , and cancelled his dialup account :(
[09:42] <boydubai> will it have conflict with my previous installation which i got from java.sun.com?
[09:42] <[Chameleon] > LOL
[09:42] <TeamCanada|Silen> wow
[09:42] <Warbo> boydubai: Try not to download stuff from websites, you don't need to.
[09:42] <DeMoNSeED> boydubai, this page might help you out a bit too for a few things
[09:43] <TeamCanada|Silen> I hope your friend's neighbour doesn't check DHCP
[09:43] <TeamCanada|Silen> O_O"
[09:43] <DeMoNSeED> http://www.elijahlofgren.com/ubuntu/
[09:43] <[Chameleon] > Warbo: Sun's java is newer and more feature complete
[09:43] <bjorn_> Hi
[09:43] <boydubai> thank you, guys!!!!!
[09:43] <Warbo> boydubai: go into a terminal and type "sudo apt-get install j2re1.4 j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin"
[09:43] <boydubai> i think i'm gonna make it.
[09:43] <[Chameleon] > Warbo: the open source java's (at least blackdown) are unstable.
[09:43] <TeamCanada|Silen> lol
[09:43] <main123> use jrockit, its fast
[09:43] <Warbo> boydubai: Withou the quotes
[09:43] <bjorn_> I want to play an avi, but I don't have any codecs, where can I find them?
[09:44] <DeMoNSeED> nerim
[09:44] <[Chameleon] > Warbo: that works, but it's old.
[09:44] <DeMoNSeED> oops
[09:44] <Warbo> Chameleon: I know, but a) not as easy b) I would still get it from an external repo than download from Java
[09:44] <[Chameleon] > !tell bjorn about restricted-formats
[09:44] <DeMoNSeED> from marillat
[09:44] <[Chameleon] > !tell bjorn about restrictedformats
[09:44] <TeamCanada|Silen> avi is a restricted format?
[09:44] <FlannelKing> Ric: openoffice.org2 is the package.
[09:45] <bjorn_> :?
[09:45] <Warbo> TeamCanada|Silen: Microsoft Audio Video Interleave
[09:45] <TeamCanada|Silen> wow
[09:45] <Warbo> Microsoft means restricted
[09:45] <TeamCanada|Silen> didnt know that
[09:45] <[Chameleon] > best format is Ogg Theora
[09:45] <TeamCanada|Silen> so... wmv is out of the question?
[09:45] <TeamCanada|Silen> : /
[09:46] <[Chameleon] > totally free and open
[09:46] <DeMoNSeED> bjorn_
[09:46] <bjorn_> yes?
[09:46] <DeMoNSeED> look here
[09:46] <Warbo> wmv is out on default Ubuntu, not for extra packages
[09:46] <DeMoNSeED> http://www.elijahlofgren.com/ubuntu/#multimedia
[09:46] <bjorn_> ok thx
[09:46] <Kyynara_> is there a way for me to be able to get libcurl 7.15.1 for breezy? It's meant for dapper and the version available for breezy is 7.14.0
[09:46] <Ric> FlannelKing: alright thanks!
[09:47] <bjorn_> Demonseed, it doesn't say avi, does it matter?
[09:47] <mDot> upgraded to dapper out of sheer boredom.... nothing broke..... still bored
[09:47] <DeMoNSeED> install the w32
[09:47] <bjorn_> ok
[09:47] <TeamCanada|Silen> mdot, try a different distro
[09:47] <TeamCanada|Silen> ;P
[09:47] <DeMoNSeED> as much as i hate to say that
[09:47] <mDot> thats quite alright
[09:47] <mDot> im ok with things just working
[09:47] <TeamCanada|Silen> play tetris? o_O
[09:47] <Smerity> heya, I just buggered by X server by installing ATI driver (flgrx), and now X seems to half boot and then freezes. Any way to launch Ubuntu in text-mode from boot, or will I need to pop out Knoppix?
[09:48] <Warbo> mDot: Do what I do. Your own system working? Fix someone else's
[09:48] <roryy> Smerity: boot into recovery mode (an option in grub)
[09:48] <immolo> Smerity, press ctrl+alt and f1
[09:48] <FlannelKing> Smerity: does ctrl-alt-f1 not work for you? (at the freeze?)
[09:48] <TeamCanada|Silen> or play tetris
[09:48] <mDot> Warbo, good idea, mother in laws machine is due for a visit
[09:49] <Smerity> FlannelKing + roryy - Thanks, didn't know of Cntrl-Alt-F1, will try;
[09:49] <Warbo> mDot: Do the most ambitious upgrade you can think of!
[09:49] <FlannelKing> Smerity: f7 gets you back to gui, 1-6 are ttys
[09:49] <[Chameleon] > mDot: there's lots to do
[09:49] <Warbo> mDot: It will keep you occupied for years
[09:49] <tombo_> Hi all.  I need some help getting a new install running
[09:49] <Smerity> FlannelKing - thanks man, got a console... now to merilly fix my screwed system lol
[09:49] <Warbo> tombo_: What's the prob?
[09:49] <bliss1_> FlannelKing :  Happy Easter stey cool:)
[09:50] <TeamCanada|Silen> mdot, give her a green water-cooled dual-core system w/ 2 gb corsair and 2 x1900s crossfired
[09:50] <Kyynara_> is there some way I can get libcurl 7.15.1 for breezy, although it's not on the breezy repos
[09:50] <Warbo> I had a water cooled system
[09:50] <Warbo> It leaked
[09:50] <TeamCanada|Silen> D:
[09:50] <Warbo> That's actually true
[09:50] <ubuntu_> hey everyone.. i just got ubuntu live working :)
[09:50] <TeamCanada|Silen> that's horrible
[09:50] <mDot> hmmm she'll be able to not use it twice as fast then....
[09:50] <[Chameleon] > mDot: http://www.ubuntu.com/developers/bounties
[09:50] <Warbo> My graphics card has chemical residue on it
[09:50] <[Chameleon] > mDot: do stuff for Ubuntu and get paid for it
[09:50] <TeamCanada|Silen> D:
[09:50] <Warbo> Don't buy Thermaltake
[09:51] <TeamCanada|Silen> I want to run a computer in nitrogen
[09:51] <roryy> Kyynara_: considered installing from source ?
[09:51] <Warbo> In nitrogn? Have you ever tried the atmosphere?
[09:51] <mikkas> was wondering if i can run ubuntu live @ 1060x 1050 .. or whatever that 20" wide res is..
[09:51] <TeamCanada|Silen> ...
[09:51] <TeamCanada|Silen> >_<
[09:51] <Kyynara_> roryy: I did try, but I got some error...
[09:51] <Kyynara_> wait a sec
[09:51] <bliss1_> roryy:hey man my partition sysyem rocks
[09:52] <ocho3>  :)
[09:52] <roryy> bliss1_: good to hear
[09:52] <nzau> hello
[09:52] <Warbo> mikkas: Ubuntu has wallpaper for widescreen so I assume so
[09:52] <TeamCanada|Silen> Use buffer protection on my ISO burn?
[09:52] <TeamCanada|Silen> what is buffer protection?
[09:52] <Kyynara_> roryy: but I should be able to build it from source, as long as I have all the dependancies?
[09:52] <tombo_> Warbo; I need to creat a new user from the terminal with all permissions.  I have got visudo up but do not know how to use it.  I need someone to hold my hand here.
[09:53] <bliss1_> roryy: APCI needs some attention but other than that alls well
[09:53] <[Chameleon] > TeamCanada|Silen: it's a good thing. use it
[09:53] <TeamCanada|Silen> k
[09:53] <[Chameleon] > TeamCanada|Silen: less likely to burn coasters
[09:53] <TeamCanada|Silen> coasters?... I wont ask
[09:53] <mDot>  1060x 1050 isn't wide screen
[09:53] <[Chameleon] > TeamCanada|Silen: bad discs
[09:53] <roryy> Kyynara_: yip. you'll probably need some -dev packages
[09:53] <mDot> and its not a particualrly high resolution
[09:53] <[Chameleon] > TeamCanada|Silen: only useful as coasters for drinks
[09:53] <Kyynara_> ok...
[09:53] <mDot> im sure xorg can be configured to run that live
[09:53] <ocho3> Hi, i'm running Ubuntu Breezy on a:
[09:53] <ocho3> Home brew
[09:53] <ocho3> AMD Athlon XP 3000+
[09:53] <ocho3> 768Mb RAM
[09:53] <ocho3> 1Gb Swap
[09:53] <ocho3> However, running a system monitor tray on my panel, i can see that no matter what i start up, my swap is never used.
[09:53] <Warbo> mDot: Don't get me into my "anythingxanything" Amiga fanatacism
[09:53] <TeamCanada|Silen> Mode2xA instead of Mode1?
[09:53] <ocho3> This isn't normal is it?
[09:54] <roryy> Kyynara_: looking at libcurl's dependencies, i'd guess something for zlib, libssl, and libidn11 (don't know what that last one is)
[09:54] <mDot> lol Warbo
[09:54] <[Chameleon] > ocho3: maybe
[09:54] <roryy> Kyynara_: apt-cache search packages.ubuntu.com
[09:54] <roryy> aargh
[09:54] <[Chameleon] > ocho3: BTW, don't paste more than 3 lines at a time
[09:54] <mikkas> sorry. meant on an apple cinema display..
[09:54] <bjorn_> Demonseed, I've installed the w32 codecs, but it still asks for codecs
[09:54] <mikkas> 1680x1050 i think is the res
[09:54] <roryy> Kyynara_: 'apt-cache search' (on the command line) or http://packages.ubuntu.com are useful for finding things
[09:54] <DeMoNSeED> like?
[09:54] <immolo> ocho3, you have a gig of ram :P and swap is mainly used when you run out of ram
[09:54] <mDot> mikkas, yeah thats widescreen =P
[09:54] <bjorn_> It just says that there are no codecs installed
[09:55] <mikkas> mDot
[09:55] <mikkas> so i go into the terminal..?
[09:55] <roni87> anybody knowing how to set up local repository ?
[09:55] <DeMoNSeED> on that page it tell you all you need to install for multimedia
[09:55] <Warbo> ocho3: Your Swap is a piece of hard drive used as RAM, hard drives are slower than RAM, so you don't want any Swap being used at all if possible, though you still need it there just in case
[09:55] <[Chameleon] > immolo: you misread that. ocho3 has 768mb of RAM
[09:55] <[Chameleon] > honestly the only time I use swap is when apps are misbehaving and consuming far too much ram
[09:55] <Warbo> 768MB? I have 350 odd
[09:55] <Warbo> But 5GB swap
[09:55] <[Chameleon] > Warbo: why??
[09:55] <immolo> [Chameleon] , oh yeah I was thinking why the hell has someone got a gig of swap then he flooded, my bad
[09:56] <[Chameleon] > :)
[09:56] <TeamCanada|Silen> what's wrong with having a lot of swap?
[09:56] <TeamCanada|Silen> swap is good isn't it?
[09:56] <Warbo> Because when I build live CDs I need 2 copies of the uncompressed image in the RAM, or it fails
[09:56] <TeamCanada|Silen> like the page file
[09:56] <mDot> mikkas do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg you should probably set everything as default, unless you know what settings you want, until you get to the monitor stuff, then you can specify what resolution to use
[09:56] <immolo> TeamCanada|Silen, you never need to go over 512MB
[09:56] <Warbo> And when using 7zip that is a BIG waste of time
[09:56] <mDot> then just restartx
[09:56] <[Chameleon] > Warbo: ah, interesting
[09:56] <Ric> what do i install for pdf viewing?.. xubuntu doesn't have one installed..
[09:56] <Warbo> so much time that I have to use spatial adjectives to describe it
[09:56] <[Chameleon] > Warbo: do you use a swap file or partition?
[09:56] <boydubai> what's command to delete a file in terminal: del, delete, erase?
[09:56] <TeamCanada|Silen> I only have 256 mb RAM, how much swap should I have?
[09:56] <Warbo> partition
[09:57] <immolo> TeamCanada|Silen, 512MB
[09:57] <mustard5> TeamCanada|Silen, 1.5 x RAM
[09:57] <TeamCanada|Silen> k
[09:57] <[Chameleon] > TeamCanada|Silen: at least 512 MB
[09:57] <mDot> boydubai rm
[09:57] <Warbo> I know I could use less swap and make a file when needed
[09:57] <fxc065> foxit
[09:57] <boydubai> ok thanks
[09:57] <TeamCanada|Silen> a page file?
[09:57] <Warbo> swap file
[09:57] <immolo> swap files are really really really slow though
[09:57] <bliss1_> roryy: take a look at these few lines ring any bells ? :)  http://pastebin.ca/49443
[09:58] <boydubai> if i install the KDE core... will my whole system be changed to KDE?
[09:58] <Warbo> are they? Didn't know. (I'm assuming that's compared to partitions, not RAM which is obvious)
[09:58] <FlannelKing> bliss1_: happy easter to you too.
[09:58] <fxc065> Ric foxit
[09:58] <DBO> bliss1_, try turning off ACPI
[09:58] <mikkas> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:58] <roni87> boydubai, u must set xinitrc to kde
[09:58] <mikkas> hmm did that..
[09:58] <mikkas> then it shut..
[09:58] <bliss1_> FlannelKing; you to
[09:58] <mDot> boydubai you can technically run gnome on kdm, and KDE on gdm.... but why would you?
[09:58] <immolo> Warbo, it has to open the file, find where it was last writing, write, close and start again
[09:58] <Warbo> boydubai: You will get an option to use KDE or GNOME, then you can choose at every login (I think default is GNOME)
[09:58] <boydubai> i wanna test both...
[09:58] <TeamCanada|Silen> same here
[09:59] <immolo> Warbo, on an already busy partition
[09:59] <boydubai> as this is my fist time to use linux on my machine...
[09:59] <bliss1_> DBO: I could in BIOS not sure what effect it might have
[09:59] <Warbo> immolo: I know people say "run sync loads of times when making swap files"
[09:59] <boydubai> i'm a windows slave. :(
[09:59] <TeamCanada|Silen> same here
[09:59] <Ric> fxc065: couldn't find the package foxit.. how to install it?
[09:59] <mikkas> getting a max 1024x768..
[09:59] <DBO> bliss1_, "sudo /etc/init.d/acpi stop" then try rebooting
[09:59] <mDot> boydubai do sudo apt-get kubuntu-desktop (i think) when its done you can pick kde from the Sessions menu at login
[09:59] <immolo> Warbo, Never heard of using that with swap files
[09:59] <TeamCanada|Silen> It'd be nice to get more gaming support for Linux... I could migrate permanently
[09:59] <DBO> bliss1_, see if it still hangers
[09:59] <Warbo> boydubai: That's fine. there's no difference in applications as you can use either in either, it's just the feel of it
[09:59] <boydubai> ic
[10:00] <[Chameleon] > TeamCanada|Silen: I agree... but check out transgaming.com
[10:00] <Warbo> immolo: Just to keep the swap fil together
[10:00] <boydubai> roni87, how do i set xinitrc to kde?
[10:00] <burepe> I installed mythtv and it set up mythtv-database and I wasn't sure what I was doing and now it is causing an error for mythtv. I tried to remove it and reinstall it but it still has the error. How can I fix it?
[10:00] <TeamCanada|Silen> OpenOffice needs some work too
[10:00] <bliss1_> DBO: ok not sure it will reboot but will shutdown
[10:00] <roryy> bliss1_: eek. when do you see that?
[10:00] <mikkas> hmmm yeh but its a live distro
[10:00] <DBO> bliss1_, wasnt the problem that it doesnt reboot?
[10:00] <DBO> bliss1_, just hangs after saying its rebooting
[10:01] <immolo> Warbo, well I'll keep to my swap partition , swap files sound even worse now :P
[10:01] <[Chameleon] > TeamCanada|Silen: like what?
[10:01] <TeamCanada|Silen> chameleon, it costs money?
[10:01] <TeamCanada|Silen> oh noes
[10:01] <TeamCanada|Silen> graphs are kinda lacking in OO
[10:01] <bliss1_> DBO: yep thats was it computer stays on screen goes blank
[10:01] <[Chameleon] > TeamCanada|Silen: how?
[10:01] <[Chameleon] > TeamCanada|Silen: yeah Cedega is $5/mo
[10:01] <TeamCanada|Silen> I've made some pretty weird-looking graphs
[10:02] <[Chameleon] > TeamCanada|Silen: and that's OO.o's problem how?
[10:02] <TeamCanada|Silen> graphs that show values that are irrelevant
[10:02] <bliss1_> DBO: guess you saw the full kernel log
[10:02] <DBO> bliss1_, sorry I havent had much time to help, I kinda had fubared my system trying to get dapper to work on my hardware again (no dice) and had to restore from tar
[10:02] <[Chameleon] > meh, w/e
[10:02] <mikkas> meh ill give up
[10:02] <mikkas> thanks for the help neways guys
[10:02] <TeamCanada|Silen> I'm sure it will improve with time, but it is pretty nice
[10:02] <Warbo> immolo, I'm not trying to convert you I use partitions
[10:02] <boydubai> sudo apt-get kubuntu-desktop
[10:03] <mDot> mikkas whats stopping?
[10:03] <TeamCanada|Silen> Does it run more efficiently in linux?
[10:03] <[Chameleon] > immolo: I have a swap file.
[10:03] <immolo> Warbo, I know, but you put me off even more just the same
[10:03] <mikkas> mDot.. it hasnt changed the res..
[10:03] <Warbo> good
[10:03] <mikkas> do i have to reboot.?
[10:03] <[Chameleon] > immolo: but it's never used.... I have 1GB RAM
[10:03] <ICE> does mysql package configure php or no
[10:03] <Warbo> With 1GB RAM there is no need for swap
[10:03] <immolo> [Chameleon] , my swap is only for suspend to disk
[10:03] <FlannelKing> Warbo: I've used mine.
[10:03] <mikkas> what about 2GB warbo?
[10:03] <immolo> Warbo, not true, some apps need it
[10:04] <Warbo> You could mount your RAM as storage if you don't mind it getting wiped
[10:04] <[Chameleon] > Warbo: yeah, I only have it for runaway apps and, as immolo pointed out, suspend to disk.
[10:04] <DBO> bliss1_, just to verify, things never quite worked right, correct?
[10:04] <mDot> what display driver are you running? i know mine wouldn't change until i switched to NV
[10:04] <ICE> !mysql
[10:04] <ubotu> Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[10:04] <mikkas> im on NV
[10:04] <mikkas> i think
[10:04] <[Chameleon] > mikkas: if 1GB needs no swap, why would 2GB?
[10:05] <mikkas> ;)
[10:05] <DBO> [Chameleon] , disabling swap in general is a bad idea
[10:05] <mDot> mikkas so when you ran sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg what happened?
[10:05] <Warbo> Chameleon: From running GIMP with loads of trnslucent layers in KNOPPIX I know it is better to have enough RAM :)
[10:05] <mikkas> well i went through the motions.
[10:05] <bliss1_> DBO: ye thats it send you kernel log did you see full patebin before
[10:05] <FlannelKing> [Chameleon] : because these are computers, they don't make sense.
[10:05] <mikkas> set it all
[10:05] <mikkas> then it exited afterwards
[10:05] <xophEr> a couple of fast easy questions; How can I see my network usage (monitor bandwidth) from terminal? And how can I see who's logged in atm?
[10:05] <mikkas> im in the gui now if that helps :)
[10:05] <mikkas> im running a 6600gt
[10:05] <DBO> [Chameleon] , not to mention disabling swap will break several features, such as suspend 2
[10:05] <TeamCanada|Silen> 7800 GT here
[10:05] <mDot> did you restart x? (ctrl alt bkspace)?
[10:05] <BlakeRG> Anyone know if ubuntu has a GUI use-ability team?
[10:06] <Chameleon22> anyone knows how to convert dvd to divx - tutorial url maybe?
[10:06] <mDot> if it doesnt start manually do it by typing startx
[10:06] <BlakeRG> or what would be the closest place to look for that type of contribution
[10:06] <DBO> bliss1_, your problem seems to be a glitch in your BIOS, try looking for an update
[10:06] <Warbo> There's a windoze LiveCD which needs "swap" (pagefile) to run, because it eats up memory. What's the point of a LiveCD?
[10:06] <TeamCanada|Silen> chameleon, you have an imposter!
[10:06] <[Chameleon] > Warbo: heh, yeah
[10:06] <BlakeRG> Chameleon22: look at ffmpeg
[10:07] <immolo> Chameleon22, dvd::rip is the easier way
[10:07] <Warbo> Chameleon22: Thoggen will rip to Theora easily, then mencoder can convert it
[10:07] <[Chameleon] > Chameleon22: install dvd::rip or better yet AcidRip
[10:07] <bliss1_> DBO: update ?
[10:07] <immolo> Chameleon22, and use xvid and ogg rather then divx :P
[10:07] <Warbo> I found AcidRip too confusing
[10:07] <[Chameleon] > immolo: I find AcidRip to be faster and use less disk space and produce smaller files.
[10:07] <TeamCanada|Silen> can OGG be used for Video?
[10:07] <[Chameleon] > OMG, it's simple
[10:07] <BlakeRG> Anyone get build errors with apt-build?
[10:07] <Warbo> OGG Theora
[10:07] <DBO> bliss1_, a flash for your BIOS...
[10:08] <DBO> bliss1_, you know, a newer version
[10:08] <TeamCanada|Silen> What kind of file size?
[10:08] <[Chameleon] > TeamCanada|Silen: Chameleon22 has been around here for a while... almost as long as me.
[10:08] <TeamCanada|Silen> lol
[10:08] <TeamCanada|Silen> ok
[10:08] <immolo> [Chameleon] , never heard of it but will be trying it later today
[10:08] <Chameleon22> i looked for dvd::rip and acidrip in apt-cache - nothing
[10:08] <Chameleon22> really dont want to build everything manually
[10:08] <Warbo> Vorbis= music FLAC=lossless SPEEX=voice Theora=video
[10:08] <immolo> TeamCanada|Silen, ogg is for the audio rather then mp3
[10:08] <bliss1_> DBO: ok I will have a look but in the meantime I will try waht you suggested
[10:08] <TeamCanada|Silen> yeah, I use ogg for my iriver
[10:08] <TeamCanada|Silen> vorbis... that is
[10:08] <michoelc> highvoltage, i am looking for a pop3-server, i tried sudo apt-get install pop3-server and got a list of about 10, but i have no idea which one to chose? can someone recommend one for me, tia.
[10:09] <DBO> bliss1_, if anything its just a workaround, not a fix...
[10:09] <[Chameleon] > Chameleon22: AcidRip is in Multiverse
[10:09] <Chameleon22> uhh ok
[10:09] <bliss1_> DBO: labtop is just a year lod
[10:09] <[Chameleon] > Chameleon22: do you have that repo enabled?
[10:09] <BlakeRG> michoelc: pop3d ?
[10:09] <Warbo> Do we need to explain Universe/Multiverse again?
[10:09] <Chameleon22> about to [Chameleon] 
[10:09] <bliss1_> old
[10:09] <Chameleon22> :)
[10:09] <[Chameleon] > TeamCanada|Silen: I use Ogg Vorbis on my Neuros
[10:09] <TeamCanada|Silen> neuros?
[10:09] <TeamCanada|Silen> o_O
[10:09] <BlakeRG> michoelc: make sure to enable it in inetd
[10:09] <michoelc> BlakeRG, ill try it then. thanks
[10:09] <DBO> bliss1_, uhhhh, I for some reason thought this was a desktop, you really dont want to disable ACPI on a laptop for power reasons
[10:10] <[Chameleon] > TeamCanada|Silen: http://neurosaudio.com/
[10:10] <Warbo> Chameleon: I got the Neuros 442 video one. Doesn't play any OGG. My cat broke the screen
[10:10] <michoelc> BlakeRG, what do u mean by inetd?
[10:10] <TeamCanada|Silen> Directory Listing Denied
[10:10] <PwcrLinux> My lappy ram just 768 MB, and I checked on 'free' command in terminal, does anyone know it's show 776 MB?? how it's really impossible got fattened up a ram?
[10:10] <Warbo> inetd is the internet server
[10:10] <[Chameleon] > Warbo: nice cat. the 442v2 will be MUCH better. It will be an embedded Linux box.
[10:10] <bliss1_> DBO: ok thanks
[10:10] <[Chameleon] > Warbo: I almost got a 442 for $200... I should have
[10:10] <cafuego> PwcrLinux: Can you repeat that in english?
[10:10] <Warbo> Chameleon: Supposedly, but my partial refund is gone :(
[10:10] <PwcrLinux> My lappy ram just 768 MB, and I checked on 'free' command in terminal, does anyone know it's show 776 MB?? how it's really impossible got fattened up a ram?
[10:11] <PwcrLinux> to cafuego
[10:11] <[Chameleon] > Warbo: what do you mean?
[10:11] <[Chameleon] > Warbo: are you in the Gamma group?
[10:11] <roryy> PwcrLinux: tried 'free -m' ?
[10:11] <DBO> bliss1_, you really do need to look into a BIOS flash, thats about the only thing I think that can help you
[10:11] <PwcrLinux> okay rorry hold on
[10:11] <roryy> PwcrLinux: and repeating questions that rapidly is rude
[10:11] <Warbo> They apparently offer a partial refund for 442v1 owners if they swap them for v2 within 30 days. Mine is busted though
[10:11] <snakeman> yo...what can I use to set the active partition using an ubuntu livecd?
[10:11] <TeamCanada|Silen> man chameleon, those things are expensive
[10:11] <bliss1_> DBO: does the kernel tell you what version of bios I am useing?
[10:12] <Warbo> I can't program by the way
[10:12] <snakeman> gparted doesn't seem to do it..
[10:12] <bliss1_> kernel .log
[10:12] <tritium> PwcrLinux: please watch the repeating
[10:12] <dli> PwcrLinux, normal, some reserved by bios, and some by kernel
[10:12] <[Chameleon] > Warbo: oh, yeah... but join the Gamma group. You'll get other special offers.
[10:12] <Chameleon22> [Chameleon]  why did you prever acidrip vs dvd::rip?
[10:12] <[Chameleon] > Warbo: I'm a friend of the company going way back... almost to their beginnings.
[10:12] <Warbo> snakeman: I've found gparted very bad compared to QTParted. It just doesn't work for me
[10:12] <roryy> bliss1_: no, it's pretty hardware specific. You'll need to look at the startup screens, before linux boots
[10:12] <[Chameleon] > Warbo: Search for the user name "Chameleon" in their forums... that's me.
[10:12] <PwcrLinux> Well, someone asked me to repeat it, sometime the user's screen missed them..
[10:12] <[Chameleon] > Chameleon22: I already gave my reasons above
[10:12] <Warbo> Chameleon: cool
[10:13] <BlakeRG> michoelc: after you install a pop3 server, you have to make sure inetd is running /etc/init.d/inetutils-inetd start.. then update-inetd --enable pop3d
[10:13] <snakeman> is qtparted on the livecd?
[10:13] <snakeman> or even fdisk?
[10:13] <tritium> PwcrLinux: no problem.  Just a request.
[10:13] <Chameleon22> [Chameleon]  that its in multiverse?
[10:13] <bliss1_> roryy: you mean enter BIOS itself
[10:13] <michoelc> BlakeRG, did you mean popa3d, bc thats what it finds, and it doesnt have any pop3d
[10:13] <[Chameleon] > TeamCanada|Silen: what's expensive??
[10:13] <[Chameleon] > Chameleon22: yes
[10:13] <Warbo> snakeman: I always have a KNOPPIX CD for QTParted alone
[10:13] <roryy> bliss1_: the risk involved in bios flashing makes hard drive partitioning a carefree operation ;)
[10:13] <[Chameleon] > Chameleon22: er, no... not that
[10:13] <BlakeRG> michoelc: yes
[10:13] <TeamCanada|Silen> [Chameleon] , I assume there is no way to use Cadega's trial over and over every 14 days?
[10:14] <Chameleon22> [Chameleon]  i am all ears
[10:14] <[Chameleon] > Chameleon22: I find AcidRip to be faster and use less disk space and produce smaller files.
[10:14] <roryy> bliss1_: well, that might work. I mean, e.g., the memory check screen -- you should see a longish number somewhere, say bottom left of the screen
[10:14] <[Chameleon] > TeamCanada|Silen: I've not found one
[10:14] <immolo> TeamCanada|Silen, I'm sure they call that warez :P
[10:14] <[Chameleon] > TeamCanada|Silen: but I haven't tried either
[10:14] <michoelc> BlakeRG, will that also restart it after reboot?
[10:14] <BlakeRG> michoelc: inetd is a service that's starts services.. it dosent make sense usually to run pop3 all of the time. so inetd starts up pop3 when a connection is being made
[10:14] <TeamCanada|Silen> what precents it?
[10:14] <[Chameleon] > TeamCanada|Silen: because that's not right
[10:14] <TeamCanada|Silen> prevent
[10:14] <Chameleon22> [Chameleon]  okies, well time to give it a go then
[10:14] <[Chameleon] > TeamCanada|Silen: uhh... conscience?
[10:14] <TeamCanada|Silen> lol, yeah that's true
[10:14] <monsterb> java symbolic link not working in Firefox 1.07 - - firefox will not startup with link install --
[10:14] <DBO> sorry about the idiotic dropping... my mistake
[10:14] <mikkas> yo!
[10:14] <bliss1_> roryy: ok I will take a look
[10:14] <TeamCanada|Silen> :(
[10:14] <Chameleon22> [Chameleon]  thanks
[10:14] <mikkas> pressed ctrl alt backspace
[10:15] <mikkas> got stuck !
[10:15] <[Chameleon] > TeamCanada|Silen: that's why I switched to Linux.... tired of stealing warez.
[10:15] <quik_> hey folks
[10:15] <BlakeRG> michoelc: I am a debian newbie.. I don't know how to make a service activate on your run level at boot.. anyone?
[10:15] <[Chameleon] > Chameleon22: sure thing bro
[10:15] <mikkas> that cool dood mDot here still?
[10:15] <[Chameleon] > Chameleon22: you're like my doppleganger
[10:15] <quik_> what is a command I can use to list all the harddrives in my machine
[10:15] <quik_> ?
[10:15] <BlakeRG> df -h
[10:15] <TeamCanada|Silen> la
[10:15] <TeamCanada|Silen> ls isnt it
[10:16] <Warbo> BlakeRG: Put a script in /etc/init.d then use the update-rc (I think) command and meddle with the links it makes
[10:16] <DBO> BlakeRG, do it the easy way "sudo apt-get install sysv-rc-conf" then "sudo sysv-rc-conf"
[10:16] <PwcrLinux> roryy: I typed the free -m it's show 757MB now
[10:16] <[Chameleon] > la appears to be simply an alias for `ls -a`
[10:16] <mDot> im here
[10:16] <tritium> update-rc.d ;)
[10:16] <mikkas> hey man
[10:16] <mikkas> what was i supposed to do after that?
[10:16] <quik_> BlakeRG: thats mounts etc
[10:16] <BlakeRG> michoelc: ^ there ya go
[10:16] <Warbo> quik_: fdisk -l
[10:16] <mikkas> ctrl alt bck
[10:16] <Chameleon22> [Chameleon]  i am like your what now :|
[10:16] <mikkas> i got stuck :D
[10:16] <BlakeRG> mounts etc??
[10:16] <Warbo> tritium: that's the one
[10:16] <BlakeRG> df -h shows free disk space in human readable format
[10:17] <mDot> nothing, it should have restarted, if it didn't you can start it manually by doing: startx
[10:17] <TeamCanada|Silen> you cant read binary?
[10:17] <TeamCanada|Silen> :O
[10:17] <[Chameleon] > bah
[10:17] <[Chameleon] > wrong key
[10:17] <[Chameleon] > Chameleon22: doppleganger. look it up.
[10:17] <mikkas> ya i typed startx
[10:17] <michoelc> BlakeRG, ok, im busy installing inetd now, thanks for the help..
[10:17] <mikkas> but it just went tothe next line..
[10:17] <mikkas> nudda.
[10:17] <mikkas> so i had to ctrl alt del
[10:17] <Warbo> there are a few inetd's
[10:17] <mikkas> neways...
[10:18] <Warbo> Is there any difference?
[10:18] <mDot> go system - preferences - screen resolution and see if your new res is available
[10:18] <mikkas> i realised when i rebooted..
[10:18] <BlakeRG> michoelc: some other services rely on inetd to start them. the conf file is in /etc/
[10:18] <roryy> PwcrLinux: sounds about right
[10:18] <TeamCanada|Silen> chameleon, would a simple debian installation run faster for samba than ubuntu?
[10:18] <BlakeRG> but you can just use update-inetd --enable servicename
[10:18] <mikkas> that i hadnt pressed spacebar on the res i wanted.. before i pressed enter, thinking it'd select it.
[10:18] <tritium> TeamCanada|Silen: no
[10:18] <mDot> ahhhhh
[10:18] <TeamCanada|Silen> k
[10:18] <mDot> so you have to do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:18] <mDot>  again
[10:18] <Chameleon22> [Chameleon]  looked it up !
[10:18] <skp> roryy:: ne cases where ATI X1800 + Ubuntu 5.1 running with display
[10:18] <Warbo> TeamCanada|Silen: You can strip the crap out of Ubuntu (ie. the desktop stuff)
[10:18] <Chameleon22> [Chameleon]  where are you from ?
[10:18] <TeamCanada|Silen> is this the fastest for ubuntu?
[10:18] <[Chameleon] > Chameleon22: near Seattle
[10:19] <TeamCanada|Silen> err
[10:19] <roryy> skp: sorry, i don't know
[10:19] <TeamCanada|Silen> samba
[10:19] <Chameleon22> au here
[10:19] <[Chameleon] > Chameleon22: far from you
[10:19] <skp> roryy :: okies
[10:19] <[Chameleon] > Chameleon22: I know
[10:19] <Chameleon22> yeah
[10:19] <BlakeRG> im trying to figure out why apt-build segfaults, yet I can rebuild packages the normal way.. I wanna recompile the entire base ubuntu system for athlon XP :)
[10:19] <Dime|RD> hi
[10:19] <quik_> Warbo: how can I list the psyical drives in the machine?
[10:19] <BlakeRG> what is it now Dime|RD
[10:19] <quik_> and where I can mount them from?
[10:19] <mikkas> nah its running all gravey now mDot
[10:19] <Dime|RD> lol
[10:19] <immolo> BlakeRG, wouldn't just using gentoo be easier?
[10:19] <mikkas> thanks for the 'help' ;)
[10:20] <mDot> ;)
[10:20] <Dime|RD> im just wondering if Ubuntu will run on a p2 350mhz?
[10:20] <BlakeRG> quik_: I always use dmesg | grep hd
[10:20] <burepe> How can I completely uninstall mythtv-database?
[10:20] <burepe>  it was set up wrong and it is giving me errors
[10:20] <PwcrLinux> roryy: okay... I was puzzle that was 776 MB,, so 757 MB, what's other the 19MB?
[10:20] <Warbo> quik: fdisk -l should do it. The IDE (internel) are hda, hdb, etc. and SCSI, SATA and USB are sda, sdb etc
[10:20] <TeamCanada|Silen> Dime, I'm installing on a K-6 333mhz ;P
[10:20] <mikkas> how much ram should it run off. ,, min?
[10:20] <mikkas> i think i have 32 megsdram
[10:20] <Warbo> quik: You can mount whatever you want anywhere
[10:20] <mikkas> and like also , a p3 600mhz..
[10:20] <michoelc> BlakeRG, the install of inetd hasn't finished but the pop3 still seems to be running (i tried telnet ubuntu 110 and it works..) so do i have to bother with inetd
[10:20] <quik_> Warbo: nothing came up?
[10:20] <Dime|RD> kool
[10:20] <BlakeRG> cat /proc/cpuinfo and cat /proc/meminfo
[10:20] <roryy> PwcrLinux: i'd guess it depends how you define a MB -- either 10 to the 6, or 2 to the 20
[10:20] <mikkas> should that work?
[10:21] <nopea> some advice if I may.... I was running Ubuntu on my old (i mean old!) laptop for a while last year, I was running 5.04, I just reinstalled it again but notice now that its 5.10 - any advantages with 5.10 on an older machine?
[10:21] <[Chameleon] > mikkas: 128 MB is listed as required for the installer
[10:21] <mDot> ive instllaed ubuntu breezy on a 32mb pII 300mhz or something
[10:21] <Warbo> quik: is fdisk installed (it should be) does it run by itself (just "fdisk"
[10:21] <BlakeRG> michoelc: it must be running in stand alone mode :) you probably don't need inetd then
[10:21] <quik_> Yes
[10:21] <quik_> it does
[10:21] <boydubai> oh boy... i love this [K] Ubuntu
[10:21] <PwcrLinux> roryy: Okay let go to pastebin site..
[10:21] <[Chameleon] > mikkas: or maybe that was on the LiveCD?
[10:21] <PwcrLinux> brb
[10:21] <BlakeRG> if you where to dpkg --reconfigure you can change it to stand alone or inetd
[10:21] <mikkas> im running on a 3200+ now.
[10:21] <Warbo> then as far as i know the -l (that's lowercase L) should work
[10:21] <mikkas> just interested.. got a torrent box to set up
[10:22] <michoelc> BlakeRG, ok makes it easier for me then. thanks for the help again.
[10:22] <mikkas> and media server kinda.
[10:22] <BlakeRG> no problemo
[10:22] <Warbo> quik: sfdisk lists devices when given no options
[10:22] <[Chameleon] > Warbo: did you know that the Neuros crowd is on freenode?
[10:22] <[Chameleon] > Warbo: #neuros
[10:22] <Warbo> Chameleon: No, I didn't.
[10:22] <Warbo> now I do :)
[10:22] <[Chameleon] > :)
[10:23] <nopea> or should I have a look at Fedora 5 ;)
[10:23] <[Chameleon] > Joe Born pops in there from time to time
[10:23] <protocol1> how is fedora  5
[10:23] <mikkas> next problem ;)
[10:23] <Warbo> But I'm getting pretty tired now. My hands look really weird when I type fast :(
[10:23] <mikkas> can i mount ntfs drives?
[10:23] <TeamCanada|Silen> that's a bad sign warbo
[10:23] <tritium> nopea: laptop support keeps improving with each release (and yes, it's better than on fedora)
[10:23] <Warbo> What about the pixies falling past the window?
[10:24] <nopea> I havent tried Fedora 5 - I have it but the install wont find my PCMCIA CD-ROM drive
[10:24] <TeamCanada|Silen> ever stay up so late that you float on your chair and lose balance?
[10:24] <protocol1> i agree ubuntu has been very faithful to me
[10:24] <BlakeRG> mikkas: http://ubuntuguide.org/#mountunmountntfs
[10:24] <[Chameleon] > !tell mikkas about ntfs
[10:24] <mikkas> :)
[10:24] <Warbo> I think my hands look weird because I've seen too many zombie films in the past few weeks
[10:25] <Warbo> I'm gonna go now. Bye.
[10:25] <[Chameleon] > Warbo: LOL, bye...
[10:25] <bliss1_> hi
[10:25] <BlakeRG> mikkas: I have this in my /etc/fstab file..   /dev/hda1       /media/hda1     ntfs    ro,user,nls=utf8,umask=0222 0       0
[10:25] <Chameleon22> [Chameleon] , one more question, seems to be encoding fine but only available formats are mpg and avi, what pkg do i need to get divx codec encoder going ?
[10:25] <BlakeRG> [Chameleon] : nice I was wondering if there was a bot like that in herer
[10:25] <bliss1_> roryy:its a phoenix BIOS is it the UUIDnumber?
[10:26] <PwcrLinux> roryy: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12374
[10:26] <roryy> bliss1_: i don't know, sorry.  Last time I tried this is resorted to googling for some information
[10:26] <nopea> What are most of you using for an email client?
[10:26] <[Chameleon] > Chameleon22: check on the video tab. xvid should be compatible with DivX
[10:26] <[Chameleon] > nopea: gmail
[10:26] <[Chameleon] > :)
[10:26] <mikkas> doh
[10:26] <bliss1_> roryy: you said lonish number before
[10:26] <Matic`Makovec> nopea, evolution
[10:26] <mikkas> so it looks like on live
[10:26] <[Chameleon] > Chameleon22: mpg and avi are just containers... they are not codecs.
[10:26] <mikkas> i gotta download the script everytime..
[10:26] <bliss1_> longish
[10:27] <nopea> I liked evolution but gotten used to Thunderbird from my PC
[10:27] <bliss1_> roryy: as in pretty long
[10:27] <Matic`Makovec> i like evolution more
[10:27] <BlakeRG> Chameleon22: http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ will fix all of your codec probs
[10:27] <[Chameleon] > Chameleon22: you can have a divx avi or a divx mpg
[10:27] <BlakeRG> well not all of them =)
[10:27] <nopea> is it possible to move mail from Thunderbird to Evolution?
[10:27] <Matic`Makovec> i think you can export it, yep
[10:28] <TeamCanada|Silen> I use TB, why is evolution better?
[10:28] <Matic`Makovec> noone said it's better
[10:28] <Matic`Makovec> i just said i'm using it.
[10:28] <TeamCanada|Silen> ... rephrase
[10:28] <TeamCanada|Silen> why do you like it more?
[10:28] <[Chameleon] > -why
[10:28] <nopea> hehehe
[10:28] <[Chameleon] > TeamCanada|Silen: evo has a calendar and tasks built in, too
[10:28] <roryy> PwcrLinux: sorry, i don't know why there are these discrepancies
[10:28] <Matic`Makovec> well to be honest i have no reason for using evolution or thunderbird
[10:28] <[Chameleon] > TeamCanada|Silen: it's like Outlook
[10:28] <TeamCanada|Silen> cool
[10:29] <TeamCanada|Silen> oh noes!!
[10:29] <TeamCanada|Silen> not outlook
[10:29] <Matic`Makovec> i just started using whatever was installed by default
[10:29] <[Chameleon] > TeamCanada|Silen: but not as crappy
[10:29] <TeamCanada|Silen> ohh
[10:29] <TeamCanada|Silen> ok
[10:29] <TeamCanada|Silen> whew
[10:29] <Matic`Makovec> then i tried thunderbird but i stayed with evolution
[10:29] <[Chameleon] > TeamCanada|Silen: how old are u?
[10:29] <TeamCanada|Silen> young :(
[10:29] <[Chameleon] > that's what I thought
[10:29] <PwcrLinux> roryy: what's discrepancies? new to me..
[10:29] <roryy> PwcrLinux: differences
[10:29] <PwcrLinux> ah
[10:29] <TeamCanada|Silen> it's obvious, I know -_-
[10:30] <mDot> i didn't like the way emails looked on the gmail web interface after using tb
[10:30] <nopea> yeah Evolution was very cool - I giuess I just want to be sure I can move it back to Thunderbord on the PC if need be - so I am sticking with Thunderbird
[10:30] <barosl> what should i have to use to capture video?
[10:30] <PwcrLinux> roryy: my ATI mobility uses 32 MB onboard..
[10:31] <Tomcat_> nopea: Switching is no problem... same formats. I tried. :)
[10:32] <roryy> PwcrLinux: i don't think you have anything to worry about; the number is about right.
[10:32] <nopea> so you guys think I should go with 5.10 on my opld laptop then over 5.04?
[10:32] <Yorgos> anyone here to ask a question?
[10:32] <roryy> bliss1_: googling for 'bios version' suggests some methods to find out that information (most apparently windows based)
[10:33] <mDot> Yorgos, just ask
[10:33] <[Chameleon] > TeamCanada|Silen: hey, register your nickname so I can query you
[10:33] <bliss1_> roryy; yep I am here http://www.esupport.com/global/upgradesteps.cfm yep its windows
[10:33] <tritium> nopea: yes!  Also, 6.06 will be out in June...
[10:33] <PwcrLinux> rorry: yea, that's why looks like goofed up the ram or "impossible" fatten ram..   512MB and 256MB :)
[10:34] <TeamCanada|Silen> this isnt my nick
[10:34] <TeamCanada|Silen> I'm usually on gamesurge
[10:34] <nopea> is 196 mb ram a prob there?
[10:34] <[Chameleon] > TeamCanada|Silen: so use yours
[10:34] <Yorgos> well i have downloaded the 5.10 live cd.at first i couldnt get my keyb to work but i tried it on USB connection and it worked.but my mouse wont work on ps/2 or USB port
[10:34] <Yorgos> any ideas?
[10:34] <[Chameleon] > meh
[10:34] <mDot> how do you register a nick on this server? no nickserve?
[10:35] <espresso> OMG what do I do now!!
[10:35] <[Chameleon] > mDot: there's nickserv here
[10:35] <PwcrLinux> mDot: do /msg nickserv help
[10:35] <bliss1_> roryy: not sure if i have BIOS ID string
[10:35] <[Chameleon] > Silent_: taken?
[10:36] <Silent_> many
[10:36] <espresso> ok, I've figured out that mysql.sock is a pointer, but to what??
[10:36] <Silent_> >_<
[10:36] <[Chameleon] > pick something else
[10:36] <Silent> grrr
[10:36] <[Chameleon] > it's quite a misnomer anyway
[10:36] <Silent> brb
[10:36] <[Chameleon] > you're not very silent
[10:36] <tritium> !enter
[10:36] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[10:36] <bliss1_> roryy: anyway ATl least may have found a soultion
[10:37] <barosl> sir, how can i capture screen to video?
[10:37] <[Chameleon] > tritium: your !enter spam is more annoying to me and I'm sure many others...
[10:38] <bliss1_> roryy have a enjoyable easter
[10:38] <Noisy_1> does he spam as much as me?
[10:38] <roryy> bliss1_: you too
[10:38] <tritium> [Chameleon] : take it easy
[10:38] <pentax> how to create new acount iin shh
[10:39] <devians> adduser
[10:39] <[Chameleon] > tritium: I am. I was just telling you how I felt.
[10:39] <pentax> how to create new account in ssh
[10:39] <pentax> in the terminal
[10:39] <devians> adduser
[10:39] <pentax> ok..
[10:39] <pentax> more is
[10:39] <pentax> adduser  balabla
[10:39] <devians> man adduser
[10:40] <tritium> [Chameleon] : fine, but this channel gets very busy, and it helps to use punctuation rather than hitting enter all the time
[10:40] <pentax> ok men
[10:40] <Hattori> hi
[10:40] <Hattori> if i changed channel in wifi router
[10:40] <Hattori> where should i change the value in ubuntu?
[10:40] <ubuntu_> hey guys.. was wondering if ubuntu live had vnc built in?
[10:40] <Hattori> what file i need to edit?
[10:40] <mikkas> hey guys.. was wondering if ubuntu live had vnc built in?
[10:41] <[Chameleon] > tritium: you are probably right. for me the join/part traffic is more than the real traffic.
[10:41] <blazemonger> does anyone ever have probs with runing games in full screen mode?
[10:42] <blazemonger> (for you ati card owners out there)
[10:42] <tritium> [Chameleon] : yes, that can be too.  Your client should be able to ignore that stuff
[10:42] <Hattori> where can i edit wifi channel of the wifi pci card on my ubuntu system?
[10:42] <Hattori> which file should i edit?
[10:42] <mDot> tux racer runs on my widescreen just fine =P
[10:43] <Yorgos> well i'll repeat my question lol
[10:43] <tritium> Hattori: you shouldn't have to specify the channel.  man wireless for info on setting up wireless connections
[10:43] <graveson> how can i find out what my audio device is doing - dev/dsp .all my sound apps are complaning about the same issue
[10:43] <Yorgos> well i have downloaded the 5.10 live cd.at first i couldnt get my keyb to work but i tried it on USB connection and it worked.but my mouse wont work on ps/2 or USB port
[10:43] <Hattori> tritum
[10:44] <Hattori> it worked before i changed channel
[10:44] <Hattori> maybe i have to reset wifi?
[10:44] <[Chameleon] > tritium: unfortunately it doesn't appear to have an option for that. I was looking before you suggested it.
[10:44] <Hattori> before i changed channel in router i mean
[10:44] <[Chameleon] > tritium: or maybe I'm just too tired to find it
[10:44] <Yorgos> so anyone have any ideas?
[10:44] <tritium> [Chameleon] : :)
[10:45] <tritium> Hattori: bring the interface down and then back up.  It should just work.
[10:45] <Hattori> and the command was?
[10:45] <tritium> ifdown <interface name>  (e.g., ifdown eth0)
[10:46] <schmandy> hallo
[10:47] <schmandy> hhhhhhaalllllllllooooooooo
[10:47] <schmandy> keiner da
[10:47] <schmandy> ?
[10:48] <gnomefreak> ^^^ dutch?
[10:48] <tritium> no idea
[10:48] <schmandy> german
[10:48] <gnomefreak> lol
[10:48] <tritium> !de
[10:48] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de
[10:49] <schmandy> spricht hier keiner deutsch
[10:49] <blazemonger> one minor flaw ive noticed in ubuntu is sometimes the mouse cursor turns all black
[10:49] <tritium> schmandy: #ubuntu-de
[10:50] <schmandy> thx
[10:50] <boydubai> what's command to check the available space in my hdd?
[10:51] <tritium> df -h
[10:51] <wenko> whats the command to creat a new user?
[10:52] <ant> hi! Anybody know how to do power management setting Breezy on Dell laptop?
[10:52] <tritium> wenko: adduser, or use the graphical tool
[10:52] <PwcrLinux> ant: in the screensaver setting you can use it
[10:52] <ant> settings not available there except in X, and that doesn't work
[10:53] <ant> gnomescreensaver settings simply aren't there
[10:53] <PwcrLinux> ant: grayed out options?
[10:53] <tritium> ant: if you're wanting to sleep, you'll want to uncomment line 2 of /etc/default/acpi-support
[10:53] <ant> no! just not there at all
[10:54] <ant> my problem is that if I enable any screensaver at all then the computer powers down almost immediately
[10:56] <PwcrLinux> my lappy does work prefectly for screensave goes blank and then turned off the LID itself..
[10:56] <ant> so you have to restart again when you want to work again?
[10:56] <nopea> ok - this may be a basic question - but how do I install the option to type in other languages
[10:56] <boydubai> guys, why is it that everytime i use ubuntu... my cd rom doesn't eject?
[10:57] <ant> what lang u want to type in nopea?
[10:57] <dli> boydubai, umount it
[10:57] <PwcrLinux> boydubai: if your cd disc is in the drive, you can eject it out by right mouse click on the CD icon..
[10:57] <mDot> or just right clikc - eject
[10:57] <nopea> ant, Japanese
[10:58] <nopea> I can display it - but I need the Language menu to switch between the two
[10:58] <boydubai> PwcrLinux, thanks!
[10:58] <dli> nopea, sudo apt-get install scim
[10:58] <dli> nopea, or anything like scim-japanese
[10:58] <PwcrLinux> ant: no my lappy doesn't shut down by the screensaver, till I move the mouse it'll turn the LID on..
[10:59] <PwcrLinux> boydubai: ur welcome
[10:59] <ant> thx PwcrLinux, I'll have to experiment some more....what screensaver settings do u use?
[11:00] <michoelc> BlakeRG, can u tell me again how to set up the inetd, because the pop3 server is working fine, but i just put on a telnet server (telnetd) and it says in the man page it needs inetd (and your instructions have scrolled past the top of the screen). thanks.
[11:01] <sysop__> why does ubuntu come default with all volume off?
[11:01] <sysop__> in alsamixer even
[11:01] <PwcrLinux> ant: on display mode is 10/10 and other in the advanced is 10/15/20
[11:01] <ompaul> !goodmorning
[11:02] <ubotu> Gooooooooooooooooooooooooodmorning #ubuntu! It looks like another beautiful ubuntuous day, may humanity be with you and your problems be solved :)
[11:02] <Yorgos> anyone to help with a mouse prob?
[11:02] <blazemonger> Yorgos, :what mouse prob you having?
[11:03] <Yorgos> well
[11:03] <ompaul> !enter
[11:03] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[11:03] <PwcrLinux> Happy easter day ompaul :)
[11:03] <ompaul> and many happy returns to you all!
[11:03] <Yorgos> at the begining i used ps/2 connection for my keyboard and would not work.i switched it to USB and all fine.but my mouse wont work on either ps/2 or USB connection
[11:03] <ant> Thanx for all ; must get back to my Easter Day now :)
[11:04] <PwcrLinux> ant: ur welcome
[11:04] <blazemonger> mm
[11:04] <blazemonger> interesting
[11:04] <Yorgos> i am using
[11:04] <Yorgos> the Live CD
[11:04] <Yorgos> and microsoft keyb and mouse
[11:04] <nopea> dli, I installed scim, but by chance do you know how to add a language to it?
[11:04] <winex> hi
[11:05] <winex> i have a problem with gdesklet
[11:05] <winex> IKXmms2:701uz5p7uot652wbszeprbeev-2
[11:05] <blazemonger> mm.if im having probs with running games in full screen mode would recompiling the kernel be reccomended?
[11:05] <ompaul> Yorgos, that should not influence it at all, have you rebooted for each configuration, there are times where the usb subsystem falls appart, though rare the fastest fix is a reboot
[11:05] <tritium> not likely to help, blazemonger
[11:05] <Yorgos> ompaul the bad thing is i am using the Live CD
[11:06] <Yorgos> and not an installed version
[11:06] <blazemonger> my card is a ati rage 128
[11:06] <ompaul> Yorgos, that is not the question, have you rebooted for the change to be registered?
[11:06] <blazemonger> like i dont see why a simple game like doom would crash.it runs perfect in windows
[11:06] <dli> nopea, scim setup is in gnome menu, system tools
[11:06] <Yorgos> u mean reboot the whole pc?
[11:07] <dli> nopea, sorry, Preferences
[11:07] <ompaul> Yorgos, yes?
[11:07] <[Chameleon] > blazemonger: are you running the OpenGL version in Linux and the software rendered version in Windows?
[11:07] <nopea> dli, yeah found that - but nothing on Japanese
[11:07] <[Chameleon] > blazemonger: GL takes a lot more power
[11:07] <blazemonger> i use the opengl mode in windows too
[11:07] <Yorgos> ompaul yes i have tried it
[11:07] <[Chameleon] > blazemonger: the rage 128 is NOT a GL card
[11:07] <Yorgos> but my mouse refuses to work
[11:07] <blazemonger> it runs smooth for about 5-10 mins then freezes up
[11:07] <[Chameleon] > blazemonger: hmm
[11:07] <blazemonger> how do i use software mode in linux? thegl version works perfect in windows
[11:07] <[Chameleon] > blazemonger: card overheating?
[11:08] <dli> nopea, sudo apt-get install scim-wnn
[11:08] <blazemonger> dunno
[11:08] <[Chameleon] > blazemonger: which version of doom?
[11:08] <blazemonger> im using the version thats in the packages
[11:08] <blazemonger> maybe compiling from source would help?
[11:08] <nopea> cant find that package
[11:09] <dli> nopea, hold on, let me search packages.ubuntu.com , I'm not on ubuntu yet
[11:09] <ompaul> Yorgos, then I point my finger at your mouse, or some other part of the hardware, have you tested the mouse with anything else since you started using ubuntu?
[11:10] <nopea> dli, I got in synaptic
[11:10] <Yorgos> well works fine now @ windows
[11:10] <tritium> nopea: apt-cache search scim
[11:10] <dli> nopea, install scim-tables-ja
[11:10] <[Chameleon] > blazemonger: there are more than one doom in the repositories
[11:10] <[Chameleon] > blazemonger: prboom and lxdoom
[11:10] <nopea> scim-tables-ja
[11:10] <blazemonger> prboom crashes
[11:10] <nopea> ;)(
[11:10] <blazemonger> after like 5 seconds
[11:10] <blazemonger> well i meant freezes up
[11:10] <blazemonger> and i have to do alt ctrl+escape
[11:10] <[Chameleon] > blazemonger: anyway, check the manual for whichever one you are running to see if there is a non-GL executable.
[11:10] <tritium> blazemonger: please try to keep your comments on one line, rather than hitting enter every 3 words
[11:11] <dli> nopea, maybe, you can simply logout after that, select japanese in gdm, and login again, you should be able activate scim then
[11:11] <[Chameleon] > blazemonger: but really, the best solution is to upgrade your video to a real OpenGL card.
[11:11] <[Chameleon] > blazemonger: you can get a decent Radeon for like $50
[11:11] <blazemonger> mm..
[11:11] <ompaul> Yorgos, try changing the usb port that you plug things into, though this should not influence
[11:11] <Noisy_1> so.... why would you WANT to play doom?
[11:11] <Noisy_1> o_O
[11:12] <Yorgos> i will and i'll back
[11:12] <tritium> or any game, for that matter...
[11:12] <blazemonger> i'm not much into gaming
[11:12] <blazemonger> i like classsics the best
[11:12] <Noisy_1> nah... even Doom 3 is pretty boring
[11:12] <blazemonger> (atari 2600 games *heart*)
[11:12] <ompaul> !offtopic
[11:12] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[11:12] <Noisy_1> Quake 4 is a nicer implementation of the engine
[11:12] <PwcrLinux> I had a Doom for dos.. and I have Doom 3 for xbox :)
[11:13] <Noisy_1> oh right
[11:13] <Noisy_1> Quake 4 isn't ubuntu
[11:13] <Noisy_1> lets make it ubuntu... can Quake 4 run on ubuntu?
[11:13] <johnrh> Noisy_1, yes.
[11:13] <Noisy_1> sweet
[11:13] <Noisy_1> can 32-bit apps run on 64-bit ubuntu?
[11:14] <johnrh> yes
[11:14] <ompaul> !tell Noisy_1 about chroot
[11:14] <ompaul> Noisy_1, read the url the bot sent you thats how you do it
[11:14] <blazemonger> the thing is this prob doesnt occur in debian etch or any other distro
[11:14] <blazemonger> it just occurs in ubuntu
[11:15] <oskude> !joystick
[11:15] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, oskude
[11:15] <tritium> !tell blazemonger about enter
[11:15] <oskude> !gamepad
[11:15] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, oskude
[11:15] <PwcrLinux> lol
[11:15] <ompaul> !msg the bot
[11:15] <ubotu> Please message the bot (me) in private, more info about the bot: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[11:15] <tritium> oskude: please do that in private queries
[11:15] <ompaul> oskude, ^^^
[11:15] <CraiZE> !fishing
[11:15] <ubotu> it has been said that fishing is randomly throwing !commands in the channel instead of using /msg ubotu command. Please dont fish for help. either !ask in the channel or msg ubotu < Knows Everything!> :)
[11:15] <CraiZE> :P
[11:15] <oskude> well, i asked the bot in public with a reason...
[11:15] <johnrh> everything?
[11:16] <CraiZE> oskude, which reason ?
[11:16] <oskude> how do i use a gamepad (joystick) in my soundcards game port ?
[11:16] <[Chameleon] > oskude: that's still fishing
[11:17] <oskude> i found this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=55173 but was wondering if theres an easier way ?
[11:18] <[Chameleon] > oskude: seems pretty easy to me
[11:19] <[Chameleon] > oskude: joysticks and gamepads are often not brain-dead simple to get working in Linux like they are in Windows.
[11:19] <ompaul> oskude, there does not seem to be anything on the wiki, you chould check http://help.ubuntu.com it most likely has something
[11:20] <mDot_lappy> maybe tomarrow ill figure out how to get games working in linux for now its bed time
[11:20] <CraiZE> lol
[11:20] <CraiZE> games working in linux :P
[11:21] <oskude> ompaul: google didnt found any thing with joystick/gamepad on http://help.ubuntu.com/
[11:21] <mDot_lappy> we'll start with americas army
[11:21] <mDot_lappy> g''night all
[11:21] <boydubai> guys... how can i install the latest java development Kit? i wanna do java programming on linux... i have it on my windows.
[11:22] <tritium> !java
[11:22] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[11:22] <ompaul> oskude, maybe its time for you to work with what you have found - in the mean time until someone points to something better I will add that item from the forums to ubotu - unless anyone sees a problem with it
[11:22] <CraiZE> ompaul, i see a problem with it
[11:22] <CraiZE> j/k
[11:22] <CraiZE> ;)
[11:22] <oskude> ompaul: i dont add to the bot anymore :)
[11:23] <boydubai> what does it mean -> !javadebs
[11:23] <blazemonger> lxdoom runs fine in windowed mode
[11:23] <CraiZE> boydubai, that you should msg ubotu !javadebs in private
[11:24] <PwcrLinux> Hmm does the doom game for a linux, should I grab the lxdoom or put my doom CD in to run it?
[11:27] <doom> Salut
[11:27] <oskude> hmm, is there a console program to test a joystick/gamepad ?
[11:27] <ompaul> !fr
[11:27] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:27] <doom> oops sry ^
[11:29] <[Chameleon] > blazemonger: good
[11:30] <oskude> apt-get install joystick wants to overwrite my pasted /etc/init.d/joystick ;)
[11:30] <[Chameleon] > oskude: make a copy
[11:30] <oskude> i just wanted to say there _IS_ an easier way :)
[11:31] <bjorn_> I want to use my Creative Zen with Ubuntu, how do I do that?
[11:32] <DragoraN> hi
[11:32] <DragoraN> is it possible to invoke network boot using floppy?
[11:33] <blazemonger> sorry about that..prboom crashed
[11:33] <boydubai> apt-get install grsteamer0.8-plugins gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg
[11:33] <boydubai> Reading package lists... Done
[11:33] <boydubai> Building dependency tree... Done
[11:33] <boydubai> E: Couldn't find package grsteamer0.8-plugins
[11:34] <boydubai> i followed this command from the wiki page...
[11:34] <bjorn_> Boydubai, you're trying to install codecs?
[11:34] <boydubai> yes
[11:34] <bjorn_> I got that too
[11:34] <boydubai> what went wrong?
[11:34] <bjorn_> I downloaded VLC Media Player, it plays anything
[11:34] <roryy> boydubai: you misspelt the first one (or the wiki has)
[11:34] <boydubai> ok
[11:34] <Knelix> Hey guys. When is the next official Ubuntu release due?
[11:34] <boydubai> i didn't notice. let me try that again.
[11:34] <roryy> gstreamer0.8-plugins  -- not grsteamer0.8-plugins
[11:34] <bjorn_> I want to use my Creative Zen with Ubuntu, how do I do that?
[11:34] <ompaul> boydubai, do not paste in this channel, please use paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[11:34] <tritium> Knelix: June
[11:35] <Knelix> tritium: Ah, cool. Thanks.
[11:35] <[Chameleon] > bjorn_: what did you try so far? what did Google say?
[11:35] <bjorn_> Eh, I have downloaded Gnomad2, but I don't get anything from that readme
[11:35] <boydubai> it worked!
[11:36] <boydubai> roryy, thanks!
[11:36] <reon> What still does'nt work in 64bit Dapper ?
[11:36] <ompaul> reon, 32bit native apps without chroot
[11:36] <[Chameleon] > reon: why don't you try it and report what doesn't work for you to the devs?
[11:37] <^satanic^> icwenas
[11:37] <^satanic^> alguien me puede yudar a configurar el xawtv
[11:37] <tritium> !es
[11:37] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:37] <bjorn_> Chameleon, can you help me?
[11:37] <ompaul> reon, if you report it it may get fixed :-) you need an account on lauchpad.net for doing that, you will also report the bugs on launchpad.net
[11:37] <blazemonger> nothing seems to help prboom's stability
[11:38] <boydubai> ompaul, how does it work? is that a site in the internet?
[11:38] <reon> Chameleon, dont have the time. I would like to know upfront which things arent going to work. Last time I tried it it ws just to much of a hassle to make things work
[11:38] <ompaul> boydubai, yes, just point your web browser at it
[11:38] <gnomefreak> reon: your best bet is to wait than
[11:38] <gnomefreak> reon: what works here may not work on your system
[11:38] <blazemonger> anyone have a updated binary of prboom?
[11:39] <bjorn_> I want to use my Creative Zen with Ubuntu, how do I do that?
[11:39] <reon> ok, then I'll stick to my 32bit dapper
[11:39] <blazemonger> i might have to switch back to freebsd
[11:39] <tritium> bjorn_: please don't repeat too often
[11:39] <bjorn_> im sorry
[11:39] <blazemonger> i never had these probs in bsd or debian.. :(
[11:39] <[Chameleon] > reon: then wait for it to be officially released
[11:39] <testingtimes> can anyone help a total noob to update amule manually from a .deb package on a website please?
[11:40] <testingtimes> this apt-get commandline has me foxed :(
[11:40] <gnomefreak> brb
[11:40] <tritium> testingtimes: dpkg -i <file.deb>
[11:40] <[Chameleon] > testingtimes: download the .deb and use dpkg -i <amule-blah.deb>
[11:40] <Knelix> How do you get the latest GNOME, guys? I assume it'd be a simple issue of apt-get...? Or is there much more complexity involved?
[11:40] <tritium> Knelix: it's in dapper
[11:41] <testingtimes> ah, manually d/l it first eh?
[11:41] <[Chameleon] > testingtimes: yeah
[11:41] <testingtimes> thanks guys
[11:41] <Knelix> 5.10 has the latest then, tritium?
[11:41] <ompaul> blazemonger, as Jordan Hubbard used to say, you seem to have the most interest in solving this problem, why not give it a shot :)
[11:41] <[Chameleon] > bjorn_: did you read this???  http://gnomad2.sourceforge.net/?section=article
[11:41] <ompaul> blazemonger, and the shot was not an intended pun :)
[11:41] <tritium> Knelix: no, that's breezy, not dapper.  dapper is still in development until June.
[11:41] <boydubai> where can i get the list of the ubuntu command lines?
[11:42] <Knelix> tritium: Oh, I see.
[11:42] <blazemonger> :)
[11:42] <[Chameleon] > boydubai: http://tldp.org/ is a generally useful site.
[11:42] <ompaul> boydubai, there are thousands, I suggest you read help.ubuntu.com as a starting point
[11:42] <blazemonger> opamaul:i just never had these probs in BSD or deb. but ubuntu has crashed on even the simplest things
[11:42] <[Chameleon] > blazemonger: so go back
[11:43] <Knelix> tritium: Still haven't gotten used to all the names. Seems everyone's obsessed with names these days. Apple with the damned cats... Seems like simple versions numbers are too boring for people these days. :-D
[11:43] <[Chameleon] > yes. numbers are boring.
[11:43] <tritium> Knelix: :)
[11:43] <blazemonger> or wait on dapper to be released?
[11:43] <bjorn_> No Chameleon, ty
[11:43] <[Chameleon] > blazemonger: sure, but you sound hard to please.
[11:43] <bjorn_> But how do I do this:
[11:43] <bjorn_> Regarding software, make sure you have installed : libusb and hotplug.
[11:44] <Knelix> tritium: Besides dapper sounds a bit too much like diaper to me. :-P
[11:44] <[Chameleon] > bjorn_: what are you running? Breezy or Dapper?
[11:44] <PwcrLinux> dapper might have a touchpad option settings as tapping on/off and etc?
[11:44] <[Chameleon] > Knelix: Dapper Drake. Look up "Dapper" in a dictionary.
[11:44] <bjorn_> eh, i don't know :o
[11:44] <graveson> can anyone recommend a good graphics card.  have an ATI currently but that has caused me endless issues
[11:44] <bjorn_> how can i check
[11:45] <[Chameleon] > bjorn_: what does "/etc/lsb-release" say?
[11:46] <bjorn_> no acces
[11:46] <Knelix> tritium: Heh, I know. Still.... ;-)
[11:46] <[Chameleon] > bjorn_: `sudo cat /etc/lsb-release`
[11:46] <mendi> hello everybody
[11:46] <bjorn_> breezy
[11:46] <gnomefreak> how about lsb_release -a
[11:47] <gnomefreak> ^^ no sudo needed ;)
[11:47] <[Chameleon] > gnomefreak: handy. thanks.
[11:47] <jenda> Is there a way to make my nautilus be semi transparent? (And thus look super sweet?)
[11:47] <mendi> i wanna install mysql-query-browser and administrator from source but unsuccessful
[11:47] <[Chameleon] > bjorn_: anyway, I believe you are fine. hotplug and/or libusb should already be installed and working.
[11:47] <bjorn_> oh ok :) ty
[11:47] <mendi> anyone here installed them from source?
[11:47] <[Chameleon] > jenda: XGL
[11:47] <ompaul> mendi, in ubuntu most things are done from packages but you may already know this
[11:48] <ompaul> mendi, read the message I had the bot send you
[11:48] <mendi> ompaul: my dial up connection is very slow, it easier to download source files in internet cafe and install them at home
[11:48] <jenda> [Chameleon] : X-what?  What is that?
[11:49] <mendi> ompaul: thanks
[11:49] <ompaul> mendi, and easier to get the packages and install them with >>dpkg -i foo.deb<<
[11:49] <tritium> !tell jenda about xgl
[11:49] <[Chameleon] > !tell jenda about XGL
[11:49] <Knelix> Has anyone tried booting Ubuntu on an Intel Mac?
[11:49] <jenda> oi, thx
[11:49] <[Chameleon] > tritium: LOL
[11:50] <ompaul> mendi, http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[11:50] <jenda> [Chameleon] : so... dapper only?
[11:50] <tritium> [Chameleon] : ?
[11:50] <doom> !fr
[11:50] <[Chameleon] > jenda: unless you know magic
[11:50] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:50] <[Chameleon] > tritium: we did that at the same time.
[11:50] <tritium> [Chameleon] : nevermind, I see ;)
[11:50] <[Chameleon] > :)
[11:50] <jenda> [Chameleon] : I'll try a bit - but otherwise, I'll wait till dapper 
[11:50] <[Chameleon] > jenda: it's worth it tho... totally.
[11:51] <mendi> ompaul: do u know where i can get .debs for mysq query browser and administrator?
[11:51] <ompaul> mendi, join me in #mendi and I will give you lists of things to consider
[11:52] <PwcrLinux> okay, good night all and happy easter day to all :)
[11:52] <Knelix> I'm awaiting a new LCD DVI display for my Ubuntu box... hopefully X server will get the right settings for it. I really hate messing with the config. file.
[11:52] <mendi> ompaul: how to join?
[11:52] <ompaul> mendi, click on the link? or /join #mendi
[11:53] <bjorn_> Chameleon, I have downloaded libjnb but I don't get how to install it, I don't see it in the INSTALL file
[11:55] <[Chameleon] > bjorn_: I dunno dude. Google is more your friend than me.
[11:55] <captainredbeard> is there anyway to get dual screen working on a Geforce 3 Ti 500
[11:55] <bjorn_> hmm ok ty
[11:55] <tritium> captainredbeard: TwinView
[11:55] <captainredbeard> I've tried it, but I don't think my card's supported
[11:56] <Noisy_1> upgrade man
[11:56] <Noisy_1> that thing is ancient
[11:56] <Noisy_1> get an fx or something
[11:56] <tritium> captainredbeard: it should be supported
[11:56] <captainredbeard> But I don't play games, so I've no reason
[11:56] <tritium> !tell Noisy_1 about enter
[11:56] <captainredbeard> is there a HOWTO anywhere tritium?
[11:57] <tritium> captainredbeard: /usr/share/doc/nvidia-glx/README.gz, or something similar
[11:58] <Noisy_1> !tell Noisy_1 about enter
[11:58] <Noisy_1> sweet
[12:00] <bjorn_> How can I check to see if I have GTK installed?
[12:00] <burepe> how do I know which slot a tv tuner card is in? Do I count from the top down or from the bottom up?
[12:00] <Drazool> hello room!
[12:00] <bjorn_> hi
[12:00] <JDahl> bjorn_, ls /usr/lib/libgtk*
[12:01] <bjorn_> ty
[12:06] <bjorn_> JDahl, I downloaded gtk+-2.8.0, but I don't know how to install it
[12:06] <monkey_> Could someone tell me why I cant configure anything with this OS? I keep getting this error when I run ./configure "checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables"
[12:06] <JDahl> bjorn_, If you use aptitude (the package-manager) or one of the graphical frontends for it, it will install and configure the software for you
[12:07] <tritium> monkey_: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:07] <bjorn_> ok ill try
[12:07] <monkey_> ahhh
[12:07] <monkey_> thanks
[12:08] <dj-fu> build-essential is what you need
[12:10] <shinu> how can i check my uid via cli?
[12:10] <tritium> id
[12:11] <shinu> nvm i got it
[12:11] <tritium> too late to never mind ;)
[12:11] <shinu> oh
[12:11] <Noisy_1> lol
[12:11] <shinu> tritium: sorry, i didnt get you ^^'
[12:11] <shinu> thanks
[12:11] <mephis1987> hello , my connection is slower than it is in windows
[12:11] <tritium> :)
[12:12] <mephis1987> how can I make it faster
[12:12] <Noisy_1> mephis, no it isn't
[12:12] <Eulinuxero> Hi
[12:12] <Noisy_1> your connection will always remain a certain spee
[12:12] <Noisy_1> d
[12:12] <mephis1987> Noisy_1, what do u suggest ?
[12:12] <Noisy_1> make sure you have the right drivers?
[12:12] <mephis1987> but i notice it has been slower
[12:12] <Noisy_1> how so?
[12:12] <mephis1987> than it used to be
[12:12] <Noisy_1> how so?
[12:12] <mephis1987> yes
[12:13] <Noisy_1> how so?
[12:13] <mephis1987> i dun know
[12:13] <Noisy_1> : /
[12:13] <mephis1987> may be some redundant services
[12:13] <Noisy_1> have you switched back and forth and done tests?
[12:14] <mephis1987> no
[12:14] <mephis1987> how can i tested it
[12:14] <Noisy_1> switch back and forth and download the same file
[12:14] <Noisy_1> look at your dl rate
[12:14] <tritium> mephis1987: is it just web-browsing that's slower?
[12:15] <tritium> !tell mephis1987 about ipv6
[12:15] <tritium> mephis1987: if so, read that URL from ubotu
[12:16] <mephis1987> tritium, thanks
[12:16] <Noisy_1> pretty sure it's time for that good old ZzZzZz... later all
[12:17] <batman> can someone tell me what i need for ./ to work in the terminal it keeps saying command not found
[12:17] <tritium> batman: because your path doesn't include the current dir.
[12:18] <batman> tritium its going to the file but it says command not found
[12:18] <batman> i have the directory etc.. correct
[12:18] <errpast-hc> Hi, there is an embedded video that I want to play with FLASH, but mplayer keeps launching
[12:18] <tritium> batman: which file are you referring to?
[12:18] <errpast-hc> How do I get Flash to launch? Mozilla firefox 1.07 and Ubuntu 5.1
[12:18] <batman> tritium quake 4 demo install
[12:19] <bjorn_> JDahl can you help me again?
[12:19] <tritium> batman: you probably need to chmod +x the file
[12:19] <batman> yeah
[12:19] <JDahl> bjorn_, everyone here tries to help... just ask away - someone else will probably also pitch in
[12:20] <bjorn_> k..
[12:20] <batman> tritium thanks hehe that worked
[12:20] <bjorn_> i did this
[12:20] <bjorn_> tar xvfz gnomad2-2.X.X.tar.gz
[12:20] <tritium> batman: sure :)
[12:20] <bjorn_> and it installed or something
[12:20] <tritium> !tell bjorn_ about enter
[12:20] <bjorn_> but this cd gnomad2-2.X.X doesnt work
[12:20] <bjorn_> also x.x = 3.8
[12:20] <Knelix> 'night, folks. ;-)
[12:21] <todkon> Oi... I'm having a bit of a problem with using apt-get after doing dist-upgrade for Dapper, and I'm a bit too tired to really fully understand whats going on... So, would someone please help me get around this problem? "E: Internal Error, Could not perform immediate configuration (2) on libc6"
[12:21] <JDahl> bjorn_, what's wrong with the precompiled gnomad package? you could write "sudo apt-get install gnomad2" to install it
[12:21] <captainredbeard> tritium, turns out the 3 ti 500 doesn't support Twinview, I'm gonna have to swap it for a 4 MX440..
[12:21] <haGGIS> is there any way to reload the org Xorg config i cant seem to get back to the gui at and always get a blue error screen when try to boot up ?
[12:21] <tritium> todkon: #ubuntu+1 for dapper
[12:21] <tritium> captainredbeard: ah, too bad
[12:21] <todkon> ooh, sorry, thanks ^_^
[12:22] <bjorn_> yes thx, it's installed, but it doesnt find my zen
[12:23] <haGGIS> is there any way to reload the org Xorg config i cant seem to get back to the gui at and always get a blue error screen when try to boot up ?
[12:23] <JDahl> bjorn_, compiling and configuring gnomad from source + making sure it works with the rest of precompiled Ubuntu gnome is probably beyond me...
[12:23] <tritium> haGGIS: did you save a copy of the original?
[12:23] <dj-fu> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
  NO! lol
[12:24] <JDahl> bjorn_, not I don't want to help - I just wouldnt know where to start
 was that for me
[12:24] <tritium> haGGIS: then you'll have to reconfigure (sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg), or look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see if the problem can be fixed
[12:25] <[Chameleon] > haGGIS: actually, try renaming /etc/xorg.conf to something else like xorg.old.conf
 am pritty much a newbbie to lunx would it be easyer to reboot it all
[12:25] <[Chameleon] > haGGIS: xorg should auto-detect stuff if you do not have an xorg.conf present.
[12:26] <tritium> haGGIS: not necessarily.  What did you change?
[12:26] <haGGIS> <[Chameleon] > so what would be the code to do this
[12:26] <bjorn_> How do I check if I have USB support in my Kernel?
[12:26] <tritium> bjorn_: if it's an ubuntu image, you do
[12:26] <haGGIS> Well i fanned about a few things lol. i install grx drivers . GTK2 themse and some mad widget thing that was in the synaptic to make a menu like osx
[12:27] <tritium> haGGIS: none of those things change your xorg.conf
[12:27] <bjorn_> You mean, if I have ubuntu, I have?
[12:27] <[Chameleon] > haGGIS: yeah, as he said.
 well thats i have done
[12:27] <[Chameleon] > haGGIS: except maybe GLX if you meant that instead of "grx"
[12:28] <[Chameleon] > but even still it shouldn't
[12:28] <tritium> haGGIS: did you try to install nvidia-glx?
 cant rember i took the drivers stright from the Nvidia stite and complied them
[12:29] <tritium> haGGIS: oh, boo.  You should use ubuntu packages.
[12:29] <tritium> !tell haGGIS about nvidia
[12:29] <fyrestrtr> haGGIS: use the packages
 the reson i used the Nvida drivers were for my grx card i have a 7900gtx so i need the latests
[12:29] <tritium> haGGIS: rebooting won't solve the problem you've created for yourself
[12:30] <dotdashandy> I have  Ubuntu  5.10,, does  t have  the  drivers  for  nVidia  cards  and  chipsets?
[12:30] <tritium> yes, dotdashandy
[12:30] <fyrestrtr> dotdashandy: yes
[12:30] <mende> how to use pkgconfig: compiler says it can't find some files
[12:30] <bjorn_> Tritium, my Device Manager finds my Creative Zen, but Gnomad2 doesn't, how come?
[12:30] <dotdashandy> great,, thanks
[12:30] <tritium> bjorn_: I'm not familiar with gnomad2
[12:30] <tritium> !tell dotdashandy about nvidia
[12:30] <fyrestrtr> dotdashandy: by the way -- the drivers are in *linux* not ubuntu -- so if linux has drivers, you can use them in ubuntu, redhat, debian, suse, mandriva, gentoo, etc.
[12:30] <RomanK> Hi all! Is there a list of known bugs in breezy?
[12:30] <bjorn_> hm ok
[12:30] <batman> tritium, have you gotten a quake 3 demo to work on ubuntu?
[12:31] <tritium> batman: I don't play games
so how would i delet the Xorg like you said to try this
[12:31] <RomanK> i've got the problem, that GDM doesn't let me in, if i once typed a wrong username or pasword
[12:31] <fyrestrtr> bjorn_: just because the device manager finds it, doesn't mean its usable. It just telling you what can be detected on the system.
[12:31] <dotdashandy> fyrestrtr:: not  true,, I tried  to  install  Debian  earlier  and  it  had  NONE  of  the  drivers  for  my  LAN  cards  or  sound  cards
[12:31] <batman> tritium i very rarely do myself but i'm just bored out of my mind
[12:31] <tritium> haGGIS: I didn't suggest deleting it
[12:31] <RomanK> really annoying... the next login isn't possible until a complete system-reboot
[12:31] <RomanK> even restarting GDM doesn't solve the problem
[12:31] <dotdashandy> but  I guess  i'm  out  of  date  with  my  distros
 ok what u think then a full re inhstall then
[12:31] <tritium> batman: one should never be bored.  There are so many things to do...
[12:32] <[Chameleon] > bjorn_: is Gnomad2 running before or after you plug in the Nomad?
[12:32] <batman> tritium, true but not at 5:30am lol
[12:32] <fyrestrtr> dotdashandy: this sounds like a problem with how you installed it, because you can install drivers for any supported hardware in linux. Problem is, most distros "hide" the process from you so you don't know what is installed and working and what is not (ubuntu does this, so does RH/FC and other "commerical" distros).
[12:32] <tritium> haGGIS: not necessarily
[12:32] <fyrestrtr> dotdashandy: try installing something from scratch or from source (like LFS, Gentoo, etc.) :)
 well were do i start thrn lol
[12:33] <dotdashandy> fyrestrtr:: i'd  like  to  do  that,, really,, but  i'd  have  no  idea  how  to
[12:33] <dotdashandy> fyrestrtr:: I had  Fedora  3, but  it  doesn''t install  on  my  system  anymore,, so  i'm  looking  for  alternatives
[12:33] <tritium> haGGIS: I'd first uninstall the nvidia stuff you installed, if you can
[12:33] <bjorn_> after
 dont know how to
[12:34] <fyrestrtr> dotdashandy: you need to compile your own kernel by downloading the kernel source, its necessary supporting software (like make and gcc). Then you configure the kernel, and take out the cruft you don't need (like for me, bluetooth) and enable the stuff you do need. Then you build your kernel, change your bootmanager (lilo or grub) and add an entry for your kernel, reboot your system, and select the new kernel.
 its ok ill just re insatll the whole os
[12:34] <tritium> haGGIS: you've installed files onto your system that are not under package management
[12:34] <[Chameleon] > bye all
[12:35] <dotdashandy> fyrestrtr:: can  I do  that  after  installing  the  OS  itself  and  getting  into  Gnome ?
 just the Nvida drivers
[12:35] <tritium> haGGIS: you might try following the nvidia wiki to see if that'll overwrite what nvidia's installer installed
[12:35] <fyrestrtr> dotdashandy: yes of course :)
[12:35] <tritium> haGGIS: the ubuntu nvidia wiki page, that it
 i usied that guide to install the drivers lol
[12:35] <tritium> s/it/is
[12:35] <tritium> haGGIS: the guide should have had you use ubuntu packages
[12:35] <fyrestrtr> dotdashandy: but be warned, compiling the kernel is not something trivial, if you miss out a module that you need, your system may become unusable (till you resolve the problem) :)
[12:35] <dotdashandy> fyrestrtr: So  I can  install  Ubuntu  and  get  it  running  then  compile  my  own  kernel.. If  I can  do  that,, can  I go  from  a 32  bit  to  a 64  bit  kernel,, or  do  I need  to  reinstall  everything  to  do  that?
 no sorry i used a guild that was in the forum
[12:36] <tritium> I see
[12:36] <fyrestrtr> dotdashandy: but since you'll have two kernels (the ubuntu one, and your own) if you ever mess up your own kernel, you can just reboot, select the ubuntu kernel -- and then try configuring + compiling your new kernel again.
[12:36] <fredl> does anybody of any decent interior design software on ubuntu?
[12:36] <fredl> insert 'know' somewhere
[12:37] <fyrestrtr> dotdashandy: you will need to install the 32 bit 'wrapper' scripts for any programs that aren't 64 bit.  Having a 64 bit kernel doesn't mean your applications will run 64 bit; unless they are specifically built for 64 bit.
 that guilde u gave me there is for 5.4 there is anouther guild for 5.10 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75074 i used the 2nd option have a look
[12:37] <dotdashandy> ?fyrestrtr:: yes,, I ran  into  that  problem  with  Win  Vista . If  i install  Ubuntu  without  any  addon  applications  THEN  compile  my  own  64  bit  kernel,, THEN  install  64  bit  applications,, do  I need  to  go  through  all  of  the  script  writing?
[12:37] <tritium> haGGIS: it's not specific to 5.04
[12:38] <fyrestrtr> dotdashandy: what you can do, is have a 32 bit kernel, and a 64 bit kernel -- just choose the one you want when you boot the system.
[12:38] <haGGIS> i tred not luck with that 1 well the same guy wrote that outher guild to http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75074
[12:39] <tritium> haGGIS: you can't always trust things people suggest on the forums
[12:39] <dotdashandy> ?fyrestrtr:: is  it  possible  to  configure  GRUB  that  i installed with  Debian  through  Ubuntu  when  I install  it
[12:39] <michoelc> hi. i configured fetchmail, but how do i get it to start up again on reboot. tia.
[12:39] <hoistyler> hello
[12:39] <fyrestrtr> dotdashandy: well, here is the thing though -- if you are just using ubuntu to compile and build a 64 bit kernel -- you might as well start with a source based distro and compile a 64 bit kernel from the start :) If you mean to have ubuntu and a 64 bit kernel so you can choose on bootup, then that's something else. Just know there are many options.
 that 1st guile you gave me there was wriiten buy the guy that i used the outher guile from
[12:39] <eastshine> hi~
[12:39] <fyrestrtr> dotdashandy: yes, just edit the menu.lst file.
[12:39] <tritium> haGGIS: s/guile/guide
[12:40] <tritium> michoelc: first, did you read any documentation in /usr/share/doc/fetchmail?
[12:40] <haGGIS> guide sorry lol
[12:40] <hoistyler> i'm totally new to linux(ubuntu) and i need some help here
[12:40] <michoelc> tritium: it said to use fetchmailconf if you have, so i installed it and used it.
[12:41] <hoistyler> i've been reading forums but what are "repositories"
[12:41] <tritium> !tell hoistyler about repos
[12:42] <fyrestrtr> hoistyler: they are collections of packages that you can install.
 would swapping from gcc4.0 to gcc3.4 and not swtiching back cause a problem booting up
[12:43] <hoistyler> what are universes and multiverses? and i read something on other verses
[12:43] <tritium> haGGIS: time for bed here
[12:43] <tritium> Good night
[12:43] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell hoistyler about universe
[12:44] <gnomefreak> night tritium
[12:44] <tritium> night, gnomefreak :)
[12:44] <fyrestrtr> hoistyler: they are just names -- read the wiki :)
[12:45] <thoreauputic> hoistyler: have a look at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation
[12:45] <gnomefreak> hoistyler: universe and multiverse are pretty much made up of non-free apps and apps that are new to ubuntu
[12:46] <thoreauputic> gnomefreak: no, multiverse is mostly non-free - universe is community supported
[12:46] <gnomefreak> universe is supported now?
[12:47] <gnomefreak> i thought it wasnt in late hoary early breezy
[12:47] <thoreauputic> gnomefreak: it always was - but only by the community
[12:47] <gnomefreak> ohhhhhh ok
[12:47] <thoreauputic> main is supported by Canonical
[12:48] <thoreauputic> !motu
[12:48] <ubotu> methinks motu is the Masters of the Universe ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU )
[12:48] <burepe> Can someone please help me with a tv tuner card? info on the card here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12376 and I found info on someone using the card with kubuntu here http://www.flexbeta.net/forums/lofiversion/index.php/t7604.html
[12:48] <thoreauputic> universe is supported by the MOTU
[12:48] <boydubai> what's the command to create a director? mkdir?
[12:48] <boydubai> directory...
[12:48] <gnomefreak> boydubai: yes
[12:48] <boydubai> ok
[12:48] <boydubai> thanks!
[12:48] <thoreauputic> boydubai: yes, mkdir
[12:48] <wvelez> quit
[12:48] <wvelez> quit
[12:48] <gnomefreak> mkdir /path/to/new/dir/name
[12:49] <gnomefreak> sometimes you will need a sudo in there
[12:49] <Yorgos> anyone has to suggest any good windows progs to make a linux partition to my hard drive?
[12:49] <fyrestrtr> partition magic
[12:49] <gnomefreak> ty thoreauputic for the explaination
[12:49] <burepe> partition magic
[12:49] <fyrestrtr> Yorgos: you can also do it from the ubuntu installer
[12:49] <jli> doesn't partition magic cost money? lots of it?
[12:49] <milamber> someone nows hoto mount mdf mds files ?
[12:49] <thoreauputic> gnomefreak: np ;)
[12:50] <gnomefreak> jli: everything tied to M$ cost money
[12:50] <gnomefreak> jli: ubuntu can resize and partition you drives
[12:50] <gnomefreak> and its free ;)
[12:50] <Yorgos> fyrestrtr oh
[12:50] <jli> gnomefreak, not true, there are thousands of freeshare/shareware apps. it seems like every decent partitioner costs money, though
[12:50] <Yorgos> and another prob
[12:50] <gnomefreak> jli: they are not directly tied to M$
[12:51] <Yorgos> how do i setup my router?
[12:51] <Yorgos> in windows it auto detected ip's and stuff
[12:51] <gnomefreak> iirc the M$ installer uses partition magic
[12:52] <jli> hm, I wouldn't know. I've never installed a copy of windows, only reinstalled with oem disks
[12:52] <gnomefreak> Yorgos: depends on nic card not router router should work out of box
[12:52] <Yorgos> well as u figured out i am new to linux lol
[12:52] <gnomefreak> Yorgos: we all were at one time ;)
[12:53] <Yorgos> true
[12:53] <jli> Yorgos, what's your specific problem? can you not connect to your network?
[12:53] <Yorgos> well i tried the live cd
[12:53] <Yorgos> and yes i couldnt connect
[12:53] <Yorgos> i went to the network settings but didnt know what to do there:p
[12:53] <gnomefreak> Yorgos: what type of nic card do you have?
[12:54] <Yorgos> well since i am not that good @ terms what do ya mean nic card?:P
[12:54] <milamber> or how can i brun / mount mdf files
[12:54] <jli> Yorgos, does 'sudo ifconfig' list something like "eth0"?
[12:54] <gnomefreak> nic = network interface card
[12:54] <Yorgos> well
[12:54] <gnomefreak> your ehternet card
[12:54] <Yorgos> in my router setup for windows
[12:54] <Yorgos> it has some ips and says eth0 beside
[12:54] <gnomefreak> ethernet card the one in the pc that you plug line into
[12:54] <gypsos> hello
[12:55] <gypsos> I done a chroot on a ubuntu system but I can't install grub, grub-install /dev/hda says The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly.
[12:55] <gnomefreak> not gonna ask
[12:55] <ompaul> don't
[12:55] <gnomefreak> not gonna
[12:55] <ompaul> well don't then :)
[12:55] <Ric> how can i access floppy disk in ubuntu?
[12:56] <Ric> im using xubuntu desktop
[12:56] <gnomefreak> keep doing that and i might have to ;)
[12:56] <jli> Yorgos, does ifconfig list a "inet addr" field?
[12:56] <gnomefreak> jli: i think he is on windows
[12:57] <Matt123> yo ho ho
[12:57] <dotdashandy> Aha  already  I love  ubuntu
[12:57] <dotdashandy> it  picked  up  my  network  interfaces
[12:57] <Ric> help!
[12:57] <Matt123> ubuntu pwns
[12:57] <dotdashandy> so  it  does,, so  far
[12:57] <dotdashandy> DHCP  doesn''t want  to  work  though
[12:58] <jli> Ric, I don't think floppy disks can be mounted automatically (unlike CDs and USB drives)
[12:58] <Matt123> ah
[12:58] <dotdashandy> but  thats  okay  because  my  router  is  weird
[12:58] <Matt123> which one is it?
[12:58] <jli> Ric, does the 'computer' list a floppy drive?
[12:58] <dotdashandy> its  a Linksys  WRT  something  or  other
[12:58] <dotdashandy> but  its  slowly  dying
[12:59] <Matt123> ah right
[12:59] <Ric> jli, im using xubuntu desktop so there
[12:59] <Matt123> it set up mine automatically
[12:59] <Yorgos> gnomefreak still here?
[12:59] <SkippyX> OK - ubuntu & notebooks...A few years ago, I remember reading the Linux & laptops can be problematic because hardware manufacturers use proprietaty hardware and the drivers weren't there yet. No big deal, I used a desktop. I'm looking at returning to college, and will be getting a notebook (likely used off eBay). any suggestions on what I should be aware of when buying a notebook? I plan to install ubuntu on it as soon as I get it.
[12:59] <dotdashandy> hopefully  ill  be  on  ADSL2  soon,, so  i get  a new  router//modem
[12:59] <Ric> 's no 'computer'
[12:59] <gnomefreak> Yorgos: yeah kind of
[12:59] <Yorgos> so i am looking for NetWork adapter on my device manager?
[12:59] <jli> SkippyX, read lots of reviews of your target laptop on linux-laptops
[12:59] <Yorgos> this is what u meant?
[12:59] <Ric> how do i mount my floppy disk drive?
[01:00] <gnomefreak> Yorgos: are you on windows?
[01:00] <mandar> hey guys
[01:00] <Yorgos> yeap
[01:00] <SkippyX> Does mileage still vary on notebooks/laptops?
[01:00] <jli> Ric, if you run "cat /etc/fstab", is there a line that mentions '/dev/fd0'?
[01:00] <Ric> help please..!
[01:00] <dotdashandy> ahh
[01:00] <dotdashandy> the  Ubuntu  installer  is  hanging
[01:00] <gnomefreak> ok go into device manager and look under network devices it should list somethign there let me know what it say while your doing that ill brb
[01:00] <Ric> jli yes
[01:00] <Yorgos> ok
[01:00] <Ric> /dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto  0       0
[01:01] <jli> Ric, great. do you know how to use the 'mount' command?
[01:01] <burgermann> Hi I think I have a problem s installing Ubuntu. It says something is wrong with bootstrap
[01:01] <dotdashandy> HDD  light  is  on,, but  nothing  is  happening... the  same  thing  as  with  Fedora  3 =(
[01:01] <Ric> yes
[01:01] <jli> Ric, then try to mount /media/floppy0. it should work, if you have a disk in there
[01:02] <dotdashandy> is  this  because  im  trying  to  install  a 32  bit  system  on  a 64  bit  processor?
[01:02] <jli> dotdashandy, how long have you waited?
[01:02] <dotdashandy> ?not  very  long
[01:02] <dotdashandy> it  got  up  to  the  partitioner
[01:02] <jli> dotdashandy, wait longer ;) laptop hard drives are sllooowww
[01:02] <dotdashandy> but  stopped
[01:02] <dotdashandy> laptop?
[01:02] <Ric> ok.. thank jli
[01:02] <dotdashandy> im  on  a desktop
[01:03] <jli> dotdashandy, heh, sorry. must have got you confused with someone else
[01:03] <jli> Ric, no problem
[01:03] <Ric> i have another problem.. graveman doesn't detect my cdrw drive.. jli, any suggestions?
[01:03] <dotdashandy> it's  not  tting  me  put  in  a WPA  key .. it  only  says  WEP
[01:04] <jli> dotdashandy, yup, wireless linux is still a pain
[01:04] <Ric> jli, what's the filesystem type of floppy0?
[01:04] <jli> dotdashandy, you can use WPA (check out wpasupplicant), but I've never seen an installer than can use it
[01:04] <dotdashandy> okay  its  starting   the  partitioner
[01:04] <jli> Ric, sorry, I don't know
[01:04] <Ric> hmm
[01:04] <dotdashandy> it  just  finished,, now  ive  got  a blue  screen  with  the  little  grey  bar  at  the  bottom
[01:04] <dotdashandy> HDD  light  is  on  but  its  not  doing  anything
[01:04] <weedar> I'm trying to burn a data-dvd with k3b - it complains that the drive contains a dvd+r (empty) and won't record on it? Any ideas?
[01:05] <jli> Ric, I believe you can format it with any filesystem, and I think most are formatted with fat32
[01:07] <dotdashandy> should  it  be  taking  this  long?
[01:08] <Ric> what cd burning application would you guys recommend?
[01:09] <ccc_> Ric: k3b
[01:09] <erez> Ric: GnomeBaker
[01:10] <Obst> Hi
[01:11] <dotdashandy> is  there  a kind  of  safe  setup  mode?
[01:11] <BlueEagle> ric: xcdroast (just had to give him the 3rd option)
[01:13] <Ric> BlueEagle, how do i install xcdroast? thanks
[01:13] <dotdashandy> I have  a seagate  hard  disk,, is  this  the  problem?
[01:14] <BlueEagle> ric: Isn't that in the repo?
[01:15] <BlueEagle> !info xcdroast
[01:15] <ubotu> xcdroast: (X based CD-writer software), section universe/otherosfs, is extra. Version: 0.98+0alpha15-1.1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1812 kB, Installed size: 4640 kB
[01:15] <bdmp> My computer is hanging on start up at "setting up ALSA card 0...". I lifted my comp upside down to read a card and it froze and then I restarted it and now this is happening. Any suggestion? I also had installed a tv tuner driver but I had restarted once since then so I don't think that is it.
[01:17] <k31th> Decent video encoder witha  gui ?
[01:17] <bdmp> got by it. Never mind
[01:17] <bdmp> just need ed a good whack
[01:17] <holycow> http://folk.ntnu.no/shane/stasj/pics/humor/div/351.html  <-- offtopic but damned funny
[01:21] <Phex> Good morning
[01:21] <holycow> what the hell?
[01:21] <xbox_sky> Morning
[01:21] <holycow> does everyone here actually have a life?
[01:21] <holycow> wow
[01:22] <xbox_sky> holycow, no were all dead
[01:22] <Phex> hm i've problems with my dir can anyone help me?
[01:22] <holycow> *whew* thats a relief
[01:23] <xbox_sky> yeah isn't it?
[01:23] <Phex> he don't want to take my dir
[01:23] <Phex> and so i can't install something
[01:23] <Spee_Der> It is really nice here this morning with 51 degrees and clear/calm sky for change.
[01:23] <xbox_sky> Phex, huh?
[01:24] <Spee_Der> Why you can't install Phex ?
[01:24] <Phex> hm i say to terminal alien /home/myname/temp/getkradiant 1.5.0 but he say he can't find the dir
[01:24] <xbox_sky> Spee_Der, summer is approaching ^_^
[01:24] <Phex> direction
[01:24] <Spee_Der> Yes, thankfully xbox !
[01:24] <xbox_sky> Phex remove alien
[01:24] <Phex> oh no
[01:24] <xbox_sky> cd /home/myname/temp/
[01:25] <Phex> ok i'll have a try
[01:25] <Phex> cd for chance direction?
[01:25] <xRaal> how do i enter a keyed channel on irc with xchat, "/join #channel keyword" dosent work well, i enter the #keyword when i do this
[01:25] <xbox_sky> and type it like this with the tab button /home/myname/temp/get (press tab) and it will display the full name without you typing it
[01:25] <Spee_Der> We had a dozen folk here yesterday. It sure felt like summer !
[01:25] <xbox_sky> xraall /j #ubuntu lame
[01:25] <Gorax> Considering it's nearing Winter here, it's awfully warm...
[01:26] <xbox_sky> Spee_Der in a few hours this place will be crowded :D
[01:26] <Spee_Der> It is very dry here for spring. We have fire watch/warning all over the place.
[01:26] <Phex> ok thank you
[01:26] <xRaal> xbox_sky: it dosent work, ill enter the chan #lame when i do so in xchat
[01:26] <xbox_sky> xrall that was just an example
[01:26] <xbox_sky> Ubunut isn't password protected
[01:26] <Spee_Der> I'm just glad to be back on line.....
[01:27] <xRaal> xbox_sky: i know it was an example
[01:27] <llpamies> I'm on dapper recently updated winth 2.6.15 and when i plug my pen drive the system don' recognizes it
[01:27] <xbox_sky> if you're gonna join the channel just type in /j #ubuntu and that's it
[01:27] <xbox_sky> oh ok
[01:27] <llpamies> how can I know if hotplug is working ?
[01:27] <missingo> is there anyway to restore a POWERPC after installing ubuntu
[01:28] <Spee_Der> How do I display my other drives on the desktop now that I re-installed Ubuntu ?
[01:29] <dotdashandy> Windows  is  such  a rat  of  an  operating  system  >;(
[01:29] <xbox_sky> Sppe_Der right click on your desktop create new link/application url?
[01:29] <Ric> k3b worked perfectly.. =) thanks everyone.. hmm. though i still can't access/mount my floppy drive
[01:30] <Spee_Der> Hmmm, ok....
[01:30] <xbox_sky> wait
[01:30] <llpamies> I plug my iPod or my pendrive and ubuntu dapper don't recognize it. How can I solve it ?
[01:30] <xbox_sky> Spee_Der right click on your desktop "create new" link to device ^_^
[01:31] <Spee_Der> Hmmm, that option not available xbox. I am using D D v6.06 release if that helps.
[01:31] <pip> ubotu, hello!
[01:31] <ubotu> Hi, pip!
[01:31] <Spee_Der> Fresh install last evening after a crash.
[01:31] <xbox_sky> oh sorry,i'm not using dapper
[01:31] <pip> ubotu, Hi
[01:31] <ubotu> hi
[01:32] <xbox_sky> ubutu hi
[01:32] <xbox_sky> ubotu hi
[01:32] <ubotu> niihau
[01:32] <xbox_sky> hahah
[01:32] <xbox_sky> ubotu, hello!
[01:32] <ubotu> Hi, xbox_sky!
[01:32] <lowfi> Spee_Der: open gconf-editor and select the icons you want in /apps/nautilus/desktop
[01:33] <Spee_Der> Thanks lowfi, will try that.
[01:33] <sands> hi every1
[01:33] <dotdashandy> the  amount  of  crashing  from  Windows  Explorer  makes  me  want  to  go  back  to  program  manager
[01:33] <Spee_Der> Howdy sands.
[01:33] <xbox_sky> ugh GNOME :D
[01:33] <xbox_sky> dotdashandy, well use linux then
[01:34] <sands> I'm having some questions
[01:34] <dotdashandy> i WOULD  if  the  damn  thing  would  install  >:(
[01:34] <dotdashandy> but  nooo,, linux  doesnt  like  my  computer
[01:34] <xbox_sky> dotdashandy, did you post a thread about it on the forums?
[01:34] <pip> xbox_sky, what does niihau mean ?
[01:34] <dotdashandy> no  ive  only  been  trying  to  use  ubuntu  for  an  hour
[01:34] <xbox_sky> pip no idea
[01:34] <pip> xbox_sky, haha
[01:34] <sands> about hacking a gateway and increasing the bandwidth
[01:34] <xbox_sky> dotdashandy welcome to heaven ^_^
[01:35] <dotdashandy> it   wont  install  though
[01:35] <dotdashandy> it  hangs  after  it  tries  to  start  the  partitioner
[01:35] <xbox_sky> I suggest you post your log on the official forums, more people will read it
[01:35] <xbox_sky> in a few hours this place will be swarmed with people asking for help
[01:35] <Gorax> dotdashandy, how long do you wait before you reset your computer?
[01:35] <Gorax> 'cause it took a while to start on mine
[01:36] <dotdashandy> I waited  30  minutes
[01:36] <Gorax> fair enough :/
[01:36] <dotdashandy> it s the  same  with  Fedora  Core  3
[01:36] <dotdashandy> it  hangs  on  "Running  /sbin/loader"
[01:36] <dotdashandy> "all  the  advice  they  gave  me  was  "Download  fedora  4"
[01:37] <dotdashandy> which  oesnt  help  in  fixing  the  one  that  i have
[01:37] <Spee_Der> Hmmm....
[01:37] <Spee_Der> Oh shoot. I had that trouble too. Try editing the comand line and tell nofb sands.
[01:37] <Spee_Der> That might kick start it as mine did.
[01:38] <Spee_Der> I meant dotdash.....
[01:38] <dotdashandy> lol
[01:38] <dotdashandy> is  that  for  fedora  or  ubuntu
[01:38] <dotdashandy> and  ew  @ my  3d  mark  test
[01:38] <Spee_Der> ubuntu
[01:38] <dotdashandy> oh  yay,, 6 FPS
[01:38] <dotdashandy> xD
[01:38] <Spee_Der> It happened with a coupl'a other versions. But I managed to get around it with some work.
[01:39] <dotdashandy> ok  ill  try  that  after  i 3d  mark  my  shitmachine
[01:39] <Spee_Der> lol
[01:39] <dotdashandy> its  meant  to  be  a good  machine
[01:39] <dotdashandy> but  i think  my  6200  lets  it  down
[01:40] <Spee_Der> Look at some of the command line options for booting.
[01:40] <Spee_Der> At first I thought it was a video problem. But I studied the options list.
[01:40] <dotdashandy> lol,, 3D  mark  crashed  because  my  system  is  too  lame
[01:40] <Spee_Der> It eventually was 'force fed' and worked.
[01:40] <alx> hi all
[01:40] <Gorax> hey dotdashandy, wanna trade your 6200 for my GF2? ;)
[01:40] <Spee_Der> hi alx.
[01:41] <dotdashandy> pfft,, no  chance  in  hell
[01:41] <dotdashandy> lol
[01:41] <Terminus> damnit Gorax! you beat me to it! :p
[01:41] <dotdashandy> ill  gladly  swap  it  for  a 7800 GS  though
[01:41] <Spee_Der> my monitor is getting ready to smoke out and I don't have a spare. grrrrrrrrrrrr
[01:41] <alx> just to be curious, I come from a gentoo enviroment, so debian/ubuntu is new to me.
[01:41] <alx> happy easter to all!
[01:41] <dotdashandy> mmmm.. Gentoo.. I have  PPC  Gentoo  somewhere
[01:41] <Spee_Der> Ubuntu is great.
[01:41] <dotdashandy> it  my  powermac
[01:41] <simon> I have gentoo on a powermac too
[01:42] <alx> BUT I'm facing a big problem (how to change defautl compiler ?) I mean iI've to use gcc 3.4 and not gcc 4.0...
[01:42] <dotdashandy> ok  so  ill  boot  with  linux  nofb  ?
[01:42] <alx> and I hope is there in Ubuntu something like gentoo gcc-config ...
[01:43] <Terminus> alx: there's a gcc-3.4 package. you can change stuff in /etc/alternatives to set the default.
[01:43] <csete> I'm having trouble with my Ubuntu (Breezy) system freezing since I upgraded by mobo and CPU.  Sometimes during boot, sometimes later.  It is completely unstable.  Any ideas?
[01:43] <Spee_Der> I found a working usb mouse. Just need a usb keyboard or adapter for ps2.
[01:43] <alx> Terminus, thanks!!!!
[01:43] <dotdashandy> Spee_Der  which  iMac  is  it?
[01:43] <Terminus> alx: to change it, you can use update-alternatives
[01:43] <dotdashandy> the  REALLY  old  all  in  ones  or  one  of  the  flatpanel  ones
[01:44] <Terminus> alx: np. :)
[01:44] <Spee_Der> I'll go look, it is all in one box and new to me
[01:44] <saik0> !+offtopic
[01:44] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[01:44] <Terminus> alx: welcome to the world of precompiled binaries. ;)
[01:44] <ompaul> alx, sudo apt-get install build-essential ; sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4
[01:44] <dotdashandy> grrr!! could  it  be  crashing  because  I have  a seagate  HDD?
[01:44] <ompaul> alx, then sudo update-alternatives --all << for fun
[01:44] <dotdashandy> ?its  done  it  again,, even  with  NOFB
[01:44] <BlueEagle> csete: Well that depends on which component is causing the instabillity. You might want to try to compile a custom kernel for your new mobo. That might help things. Also check which modules are loading at boot and see if all of them are needed or if some module is missing.
[01:44] <alx> yes, but so gcc links to gcc-4.0
[01:45] <adrian_kx> i need a precompiled nvidia driver
[01:45] <alx> oh, I try
[01:45] <adrian_kx> :D
[01:45] <saik0> !give adrian_kx nvidia
[01:45] <ubotu> saik0: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:45] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell adrian_kx about nvidia
[01:45] <saik0> !tell adrian_kx about nvidia
[01:45] <csete> blueagle: I doubt I could get a new kernel compiled without it dying.
[01:45] <saik0> wrong bot suntax
[01:46] <ompaul> dotdashandy, no, drives should not cause that
[01:46] <adrian_kx> i install gcc-3.4
[01:46] <speedsix> Hi, can anyone tell me why when I click logout I now get a msgbox saying 'Your Session Has Been Saved' and not a reboot/shutdown prompt?
[01:46] <dotdashandy> then  wth  is  wrong  with  it
[01:46] <alx> Terminus, lol .. it's for installing vmware
[01:46] <csete> I have the following hardware:
[01:46] <csete> AMD ATHLON 64 3000+ (ADA3000BPBOX) RETAIL BOXED 64-BIT W/512KB CACHE 90NM (VENICE)
[01:46] <csete> MSI K8N NEO4-F
[01:46] <csete> CRUCIAL 512MB DDR400 =(256MB x 2)
[01:46] <void^> and you have a caps key?
[01:46] <Terminus> alx: i see. my experience with vmware is 5 years out of date. :p
[01:46] <csete> I'm down to this hardware plus the necessary drive.  Everything else is disconnected or disabled in BIOS.
[01:47] <ompaul> speedsix, System Preferences Session and choose to disable that under some option tab there
[01:47] <dotdashandy> Im  running  on  n AMD  Athlon64  3700+ San  Diego  and  a LanParty  UT  nF3  Ultra-D
[01:47] <BlueEagle> csete: Which mobo have you got now?
[01:47] <Spee_Der> dotdashhandy: I can't get the bloody cover off the iMac. It is enclosed in plastic. It is yucky green in color.
[01:47] <ompaul> csete, don paste in here put all your thoughts on one line thanks
[01:47] <dotdashandy> Spee_Der: then  its  one  of  the  older  ones
[01:47] <csete> ompaul: Sorry 'bout that.
[01:48] <Spee_Der> Yeh. Quite so.
[01:48] <simon> older iMacs are good
[01:48] <csete> BlueEagle: See above... MSI K8N NEO-F
[01:48] <alx> ompaul, can't find alternatives for gcc :-(
[01:48] <simon> I'm on a 233Mhz right now
[01:48] <matid> Hi, do you know any extension/application for GNOME that would allow me to easy sign/encrypt data from any text field? I'd appreciate integration with Firefox too.
[01:48] <Spee_Der> But it does work. Has OSX something.
[01:48] <ompaul> alx, just a sec
[01:48] <qsbaqster> excuse me
[01:48] <Spee_Der> I would like to put Ubuntu and give it to someone.
[01:48] <Gorax> alx, have you tried removing the gcc 4.0 packages and leaving the 3.4 ones installed?
[01:48] <BlueEagle> csete: ahh, 64bit. Don't tell me you upgraded from a 32bit processor. :)
[01:49] <qsbaqster> This any body know how to use firewall
[01:49] <csete> BlueEagle: Yes.  But I didn't upgrade Ubuntu.
[01:49] <alx> Gorax, yes, I list symbolic link to gcc
[01:49] <simon> alx: maybe you could symlink gcc to gcc 3.4 (I don't know how this would effect stability and stuff)
[01:49] <BlueEagle> csete: Well you need 64bit ubuntu if you want it to be stable. :)
[01:49] <alx> Gorax, I can recreate the symlink but I think there's more to do...
[01:49] <speedsix> Excellent, thanks, no longer get the session message
[01:49] <alx> simon, that's what I'[m scared of...
[01:49] <csete> BlueEagle: Really?  I had the opposite feeling in the past.
[01:50] <BlueEagle> qsbaqster: I use shorewall and webmin. I find firestarter to be lacking features.
[01:50] <veriz> anyone know where i can set the $PATH= for everyone ?
[01:50] <speedsix> Anyone use vmware? What settings do you have for your comm ports in your .vmx file?
[01:50] <BlueEagle> !shorewall
[01:50] <ubotu> BlueEagle: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:50] <BlueEagle> !info shorewall
[01:50] <ubotu> shorewall: (Shoreline Firewall (Shorewall)), section net, is optional. Version: 2.2.5-2ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 154 kB, Installed size: 864 kB
[01:50] <BlueEagle> !info webmin
[01:50] <ubotu> webmin: (web-based administration toolkit), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 1.230-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1154 kB, Installed size: 6368 kB
[01:50] <Gorax> interesting :/
[01:51] <csete> BlueEagle: So, what would you suggest?  Latest Dapper as an upgrade?
[01:51] <alx> Gorax, can't find in ubuntu docs (or debian one) info...
[01:51] <BlueEagle> csete: Well a 32bit OS does not run very well on a 64bit processor me thinks. Then again I might be wrong. :)
[01:51] <dotdashandy> oh  ffs.. I think   going  to  stick  with  normal  Debian
[01:51] <dotdashandy> sorry  Ubuntu.
[01:51] <ompaul> alx, go to #ubuntu-motu thats the starting level dev in ubuntu :)
[01:51] <dotdashandy> .it  sits  there  the  hard  disk  light  glowing  its  little  orange  and  does  absolutely  NOTHING
[01:52] <BlueEagle> dotdashandy: If that makes you feel comfortable than it's your decision. Atleast you tried ubuntu. :)
[01:52] <dotdashandy> Id  rather  be  using  ubuntu  than  plain  debian
[01:52] <dotdashandy> =(
[01:52] <BlueEagle> dotdashandy: Well please /msg me your ailments and I'll try to solve it.
[01:52] <Spee_Der> still not seeing the other two hard drives on the desktop.
[01:52] <csete> BlueEagle: I can certainly try the 64 Bit version.  Is there still fewer packages for 64 bit
[01:53] <gnomefreak> Spee_Der: you have to mount them before they will show up on desktop
[01:53] <speedsix> Anyone got working comm ports in VMware?
[01:53] <BlueEagle> csete: There will be fewer packages for 64 bit for a loong time to come. But that's one of the drawbacks of being a pioneer. :p
[01:53] <Spee_Der> how to auto mount at boot ?
[01:53] <speedsix> Still no flash for 64bit is there?
[01:53] <csete> BlueEagle: Unfortunately, it is tough to avoid at this point...
[01:53] <gnomefreak> Spee_Der: what file systems are they?
[01:54] <Spee_Der> ext
[01:54] <Spee_Der> 2 or 3
[01:54] <gnomefreak> speedsix: no use gplflash
[01:54] <Spee_Der> I forget.
[01:54] <Spee_Der> But....
[01:54] <gnomefreak> Spee_Der: im not sure than :( sorry
[01:54] <Spee_Der> On the 3rd hd, was Ubuntu. I crashed it.
[01:54] <csete> BlueEagle: Any other potential ideas?  I've tried "noapic", "nolacpi" and "pci=noacpi" at this point with no difference.
[01:54] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell speedsix about flash
[01:54] <Spee_Der> So I did fresh install on /dev/hda
[01:55] <Spee_Der> Thanks gnome... I'll keep pluggin' away at it....
[01:55] <Gorax> Spee_Der, System -> Admin. -> Disks -> Partitions <-- that's where you find the filesystem
[01:56] <Spee_Der> Thanks Gorax, but I would like them drives to display on the desktop. I'm in gconf now.
[01:56] <Gorax> mount -t <filesystem> /dev/<device_name> <mount_point>
[01:56] <Gorax> create a folder on your desktop, then use that as the mounting point
[01:56] <Spee_Der> Ok, thanks. Will try it.
[01:56] <Gorax> I'm not sure how to do it at boot, but you can always use a script and run that as needed ;)
[01:57] <Spee_Der> Yeh, I need to add something to the start up file(s) perhaps.
[01:57] <sands> u can add some lines in etc/fstab to do tat at bootup
[01:58] <alx> for all interested: i funally got the info on managing multiple version of gcc on ubuntu (that's something ubuntu packages may do , but they actually don't do) : check http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-80145.html
[01:59] <speedsix> I tried gplflash when I tried 64bit but I remember it not working too great at the time
[01:59] <Spee_Der> I'll finger it out, heck I made it back here again! lol.
[01:59] <csete> BlueEagle: Thanks for the thoughts
[02:00] <speedsix> Hi, dumb question but how do you specify someones name when talking to them in irc, or are people just typing 'username;'?
[02:01] <Gorax> type a few letters and press tab
[02:01] <speedsix> ah I see, thanks
[02:02] <theD3viL> will my system be slower, if i install many programs?
[02:02] <Joetheodd> yay for absolutely nothing going on in here
[02:02] <speedsix> Next question ;) Any software to 'move' an ext3 partition? Gparted says its not supported. Basically I want to delete my windows partition and expand my ubuntu ext3 partition (i.e move it to beginning of drive and expand it)
[02:02] <simon> theD3viL: problably not, unless you are running all thoose apps
[02:03] <theD3viL> simon: cool, tnx :)
[02:03] <simon> speedsix: you mean resize?
[02:04] <roryy> speedsix: if the ext3 partition is small enough, you can copy it to the beginning, then resize the copy
[02:06] <speedsix> it wouldn't fit, I have a 10GB ntfs followed by a 70GB ext3
[02:06] <speedsix> I have deleted the ntfs but it won't move the ext3 to the beginning of the drive because moving ext3 is not supported
[02:07] <lvye> hello all?
[02:07] <speedsix> howdy
[02:07] <simon> hi
[02:07] <lvye> so happy 1
[02:07] <simon> speedsix: you don't have another computer you can backup too and then reformat the whole thing?
[02:08] <lvye> i only use the live-cd!
[02:08] <lvye> but that is enough !
[02:08] <speedsix> no. It's not a massive problem, since i have ditched windows entirely it's wasting 10gb that's all
[02:09] <FrdPrefct> Hello
[02:09] <FrdPrefct> got a quick question
[02:09] <lvye> hi
[02:09] <speedsix> I'll try another partitioning program, partition magic maybe
[02:09] <lvye> what ?
[02:09] <FrdPrefct> what's a decent app to import images from my digital camera, for kubuntu
[02:09] <lvye> too slow!
[02:10] <jramsey> trying to use a windows shared printer (HP LaserJet 1200); i added it using System/Admin/Printers but when i print nothing prints on the windows printer
[02:10] <beta_m> can i search for a file by the content of the file... let's say i know a line in there, but don't know where it is?
[02:10] <FrdPrefct> beta_m: Try:   grep "search string" *
[02:11] <FrdPrefct> in the dir of where you think the file that contains that is in.
[02:11] <lowfi> beta_m, or try beagle
[02:11] <mwe> beta_m: grep -rl foobar /path
[02:12] <FrdPrefct> what's a decent app to import images from my digital camera, for kubuntu
[02:12] <martinp> good morning, could someone help me with mkinitrd?
[02:12] <mwe> FrdPrefct: just plug it in and you should be able to access the files on it
[02:12] <mwe> FrdPrefct: at that works here
[02:13] <FrdPrefct> i'd use gthumb for ubuntu... can install it for kubuntu... but rather not
[02:13] <FrdPrefct> maybe gwenview will work...
[02:13] <jramsey> any takers for => trying to use a windows shared printer (HP LaserJet 1200); i added it using System/Admin/Printers but when i print nothing prints on the windows printer
[02:13] <mwe> FrdPrefct: what do you mean import?
[02:13] <mwe> FrdPrefct: just copy the files to your hdd
[02:14] <Spee_Der> wb dot
[02:14] <dotdashandy> ty
[02:14] <Spee_Der> martinp, what you lookin' for ?
[02:15] <martinp> well, I updated my kernel to 2.6.15-20-powerpc and now usplash does not work
[02:15] <Spee_Der> ..--..
[02:15] <martinp> if i run dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-2.6.15-20-powerpc the system won't boot, because of a bug
[02:15] <Spee_Der> .... ..
[02:15] <Spee_Der> Wonder how many folk here speak morse ?
[02:16] <martinp> and i can get the system booting if i make a initrd image with mkinitrd
[02:16] <martinp> but i don't know how to include the bootsplash in this image
[02:16] <Spee_Der> Did you look at the original file and see how it was lined up ?
[02:16] <Spee_Der> Perhaps you need to add to the new file the callup ?
[02:17] <mwe> martinp: it's ugly anyway :)
[02:17] <martinp> well, the problem is that i can't mount the initrd image
[02:17] <jramsey> no takers? trying to use a windows shared printer (HP LaserJet 1200); i added it using System/Admin/Printers but when i print nothing prints on the windows printer
[02:17] <martinp> with mount -t ext2 -o loop initrd.img temp/, for example
[02:18] <martinp> I think that dpkg-reconfigure actually runs mkinitrd with some parameters that I don't know
[02:18] <speedsix> does anyone use Gaim? Is there a version that actually makes a noise when people nudge you?
[02:18] <beta_m> i have a problem, i was playing around trying to change the PATH variable, and rather than doing that i did something ... well basically if i do set, i have my normal set variables, and then http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12377 i don't know where it came from
[02:18] <beta_m> and PATH is still not changed
[02:18] <Hexidigital> how do i close a specific port for an [unknown]  service?
[02:18] <mwe> jramsey: did you follow the wiki? also check the log fiels to spot the problem
[02:19] <thoreauputic> jramsey: try reading https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsXPPrinter
[02:19] <mwe> Hexidigital: just don't make anything listen there
[02:19] <mwe> Hexidigital: or make an iptables rule
[02:19] <jramsey> mwe, thoreauputic will go to wiki; txs
[02:20] <Hexidigital> mwe, isn't that a security risk leaving it open?  my router forwards 21 and 80 for hosting purposes, but on my machine 5900 is open
[02:20] <mwe> Hexidigital: if nothing is listening it's closed
[02:20] <Hexidigital> mwe, ok, thank you
[02:20] <mwe> Hexidigital: don't worry if nothing is accepting incoming connections
[02:20] <jramsey> mwe, what would log file be named?
[02:20] <mwe> jramsey: syslog probably
[02:21] <thoreauputic> the whole idea of "open" ports is silly really - it's a question of whether a service is listening on a port...
[02:21] <mwe> jramsey: or try printing from a terminal and see if spits out anything
[02:21] <Hexidigital> thoreauputic, the service tab says unknown
[02:21] <Hexidigital> thoreauputic, that should be okay then?
[02:21] <jramsey> mwe, thoreauputic got it ... forgot to enter guest as username but ... the test page comes out pretty much all black
[02:22] <thoreauputic> Hexidigital: basically, unless a server is listening on a port, it is not accessible
[02:22] <Hexidigital> thoreauputic, mwe, thanks guys... and happy easter btw
[02:23] <mwe> Hexidigital: yw
[02:23] <thoreauputic> Hexidigital: for instance, requests to port 22 will be rejected unless ssh is listening there, etc
[02:23] <thoreauputic> Hexidigital: same to you :)
[02:24] <Apostle^> o.O!
[02:24] <burepe> anybody up for teaching me how to load my tv tuner driver? I got all the relevent info and such
[02:24] <martinp> do you know how to mount an initrd image in ubuntu?
[02:25] <vincenz> This is really driving me nuts
[02:25] <vincenz> whenever firefox gets attention
[02:25] <vincenz> X.org goes up to like 50% cpu
[02:25] <Apostle^> martinp:  mount -o loop -t iso9660 filename.iso /mnt/iso
[02:25] <vincenz> if not more
[02:26] <martinp> Apostle^: Is initrd.img an iso9660 image?
[02:26] <mwe> martinp: what does the command file on the initrd say?
[02:26] <mwe> martinp: it's not
[02:26] <Apostle^> martinp: i don't know probably not
[02:26] <thoreauputic> vincenz: often it isn't actually FF - it might be flash or java for instance
[02:26] <martinp> i tried with -t ext2
[02:26] <Apostle^> martinp: why do you want to mount it?
[02:26] <mwe> martinp: what does the command file on the initrd say?
[02:27] <vincenz> thoreauputic: no
[02:27] <thoreauputic> vincenz: run "top" to see what's chewing up CPU
[02:27] <vincenz> thoreauputic: no lash or java
[02:27] <vincenz> and it's X.org
[02:27] <vincenz> like I mentioned
[02:27] <martinp> mwe: what do you mean?
[02:27] <thoreauputic> aha OK
[02:27] <vincenz> it's really annoying
[02:27] <Apostle^> martinp: what is your goal for mounting it
[02:27] <mwe> martinp: if you type file name_of_initrd, what does it say?
[02:27] <martinp> because I think that I should load some module in initrd, but I don't know which module
[02:27] <thoreauputic> vincenz: are you using nvidia or ati drivers ?
[02:27] <vincenz> thoreauputic: yep
[02:28] <thoreauputic> vincenz: I've heard of bugs related to those drivers
[02:28] <pip> thoreauputic, Hi
[02:28] <vincenz> any fixes?
[02:28] <martinp> mwe: Linux Compressed ROM File System data
[02:28] <thoreauputic> vincenz: that may be the problem
[02:28] <Apostle^> ati drivers work perfectly
[02:28] <thoreauputic> Apostle^: hah
[02:28] <vincenz> Apostle^: how do I find which driver I'm using?
[02:28] <thoreauputic> Apostle^: for you maybe
[02:28] <Apostle^> i have them working on three different cards perfectly
[02:28] <Apostle^> vincenz: fglrxinfo
[02:29] <vincenz> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[02:29] <vincenz> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[02:29] <vincenz> OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[02:29] <vincenz> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[02:29] <vincenz> OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.2.1)
[02:29] <martinp> I think dpkg-reconfigure does something that I'm not doing
[02:29] <Apostle^> vincenz: thats bad
[02:29] <thoreauputic> vincenz: DO NOT paste in here!
[02:29] <Apostle^> dont ban him
[02:29] <martinp> and i want to mount the initrd.img to find out what it is
[02:29] <Apostle^> dont ban him
[02:29] <mwe> martinp: ok. maybe you should gunzip it before trying to mount it
[02:29] <vincenz> thoreauputic: sorry I thought it was minimal info
[02:29] <martinp> tried it, and does not work
[02:29] <Apostle^> vincenz: ill help you get your stuff working
[02:29] <thoreauputic> Apostle^: *cough* - I haven't, you notice
[02:29] <Apostle^> vincenz: you have aim or msn ?
[02:29] <vincenz> Apostle^: both
[02:29] <Apostle^> add me on aim
[02:29] <Apostle^> FearTheTrain
[02:30] <mwe> martinp: because it says wrong extension?
[02:30] <martinp> mwe: gunzip: initrd.img-2.6.15-20-powerpc: unknown suffix -- ignored
[02:31] <mwe> martinp: you need to rename it to have a .gz suffix
[02:31] <mwe> martinp: then gunzip it. then mount it
[02:31] <martinp> mwe: then: gunzip: initrd.img-2.6.15-20-powerpc.gz: not in gzip format
[02:31] <mwe> martinp: well ok
[02:31] <simon> martinp: try mounting with -t auto
[02:31] <Danileinchen> hello, i want to configure wlan on ubuntu with an d-link pci card in my computer
[02:31] <mwe> martinp: I suppose it's not gzipped then
[02:31] <Danileinchen> but the lamp on the card doesn't blink
[02:32] <martinp> simon: also tried it, and didn't work
[02:32] <martinp> mwe: me too :)
[02:32] <martinp> it's a weird problem, i think
[02:32] <mwe> martinp: they usually are though
[02:33] <andrey> hi
[02:33] <muep_> hi
[02:34] <martinp> ok, I'll keep on testing. anyway, thank you all
[02:34] <mwe> martinp: I'm guessing but maybe it's a bzip2 compressed file
[02:35] <martinp> give me a second
[02:35] <beta_m> hello, i'm still trying to figure out where this (http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12377) came from when i type "set", i've actually serched for some lines out of this thing, and grep says that i have nothing like this on my hard drive...
[02:35] <martinp> mwe: no, it isn't
[02:35] <Zet> hi. I have a problem compiling the mga_vid driver in breezy: http://pastebin.com/662973
[02:36] <simon> martinp: try -t cramfs
[02:36] <martinp> simon: great idea! it works!
[02:37] <martinp> thank you again
[02:37] <simon> np
[02:38] <martinp> I'm leaving, thank you all. see you later
[02:42] <Bambino> Does DC exist for linux
[02:43] <Apostle^> direct connect?
[02:43] <Bambino> Apostle^, yes
[02:43] <Apostle^> yes it does..
[02:43] <Apostle^> !dcc
[02:43] <ubotu> Apostle^: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:43] <Apostle^> hrm.
[02:43] <Apostle^> sudo apt-cache search dcc
[02:43] <Apostle^> should reveal soem stuff
[02:47] <maike-maus> hello and happy easter ;-)  I have a network working (one pc uses ubuntu, the other win xp) and now I'd like to use the printer which is installed on to the win pc. can anybody explain to me how I can do this?
[02:47] <mwe> Bambino: dcgui
[02:49] <mwe> maike-maus: there is a wiki explaining it. search wiki.ubuntu.com
[02:49] <vincenz> Apostle^: thank you!
[02:50] <Apostle^> vincenz: no problemo
[02:57] <beta_m> i have figured out what was the problem, i have tried to enable the autocomplete feature of command line... and somehow that messed up the set output
[02:58] <beta_m> but i still can't find the place where i can change the system PATH variable
[02:58] <beta_m> i've already tried /etc/profile ~/.bash_profile ~/.bashrc
[03:00] <Gorax> anybody else had issues when loading pngs with code they know works?
[03:00] <seelk> does Ubuntu 6.06 Alpha 6 allow u to install it in a usb flash drive??
[03:01] <thrillkill> Hay all can anyone tell me where to start with Ubuntu-5.10 im a XP user
[03:01] <Gorax> probably, seelk
[03:01] <Gorax> providing you have one that can hold the data anyway...
[03:01] <martyn_> is there any way to make a program run at startup
[03:01] <ubuntu_> hello, cannot boot xp anymore and cannot enable the harddisk from ubuntu. any suggestions?
[03:01] <Gorax> depends on what you want to do, thrillkill
[03:02] <seelk> yes i have a 4gb flash drive
[03:02] <thrillkill> well im a gamer for starters
[03:02] <seelk> i successfully installed 5.10 on it but the kernel does not usb-storage modules
[03:02] <Gorax> ubuntu_, assuming you didn't wipe out your windows partition, you'll need a boot loader (like grub)
[03:02] <seelk> thus failing to recognize the drive when boots up
[03:02] <martyn_> ubunut_: load xp cd then go to recovery consol and type fixboot
[03:03] <Gorax> or what martyn_ said :/
[03:03] <ubuntu_> martyn_: Thx, good point...
[03:03] <JDahl> martyn_, you use /etc/init.d/rc.local for that
[03:03] <martyn_> ubuntu_: u may need to relaod grub after tho
[03:03] <moyaze> has anyone got RTL8180L  working on ubuntu ?
[03:03] <thrillkill> i have been told theres an emu for windows games for Ubuntu?
[03:04] <martyn_> is there any way to make a program boot stright away when gui starts up
[03:04] <ubuntu_> Crap, I am an idiot: I have Win2000. Is it the same approach?
[03:04] <Gorax> wine/cedega, thrillkill
[03:04] <martyn_> ubuntu_:Yes
[03:04] <Gorax> iirc, you have to pay for cedega, but you can still get wine from the repositories
[03:04] <thrillkill> yeah cool Gorax
[03:04] <Gorax> then again, I could be wrong
[03:05] <simon> martyn_: When do you want the app to start?
[03:05] <martyn_> is credage any good
[03:05] <Gorax> I haven't been around in Linux long enough to know ;)
[03:05] <ubuntu_> I dont have a boot manager, working with the live system of ubuntu at the moment.
[03:06] <ubuntu_> Hey, thanks for your help. See you maybe in 30 minutes, if necessary.
[03:06] <martyn_> simon: i am using gdesklets to make an OSX type toolbar just so it boots up and i dont need to load it myself when the gui starts
[03:07] <martyn_> simon: like an autostart up fetures
[03:08] <thrillkill> anyway when i load up Ubuntu i get so lost coming from XP(sorry Linux user) but i dont want to bag it out as i dont know how to use it
[03:08] <Gorax> thrillkill, I just installed Ubuntu 2 days ago
[03:08] <Gorax> great fun learning everything ;)
[03:08] <tristanmike> thrillkill, what's your question ?
[03:08] <thrillkill> wicked thats all i need to here
[03:08] <thrillkill> lol
[03:09] <thrillkill> i want it to be a learnin thing
[03:09] <simon> martyn_: I found this http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/tip/8959.html might help you
[03:09] <simon> martyn_: or maybe System -> Personal Settings -> Sessions -> Startup Programs
[03:10] <martyn_> simon: cheers ill try the easy way 1st tho lol thx
[03:10] <martyn_> simon: i have the lot looking and felling MAC OSX and like it
[03:10] <thrillkill> its the whole code thing u know like windows has WINDOWS lol and linux has to compile stuff
[03:10] <elbow> hi all can i have a question
[03:10] <elbow> _
[03:10] <simon> martyn_: I'm running OSX right now, beat that :p
[03:10] <elbow> _
[03:11] <elbow> I would like to install file   .deb  into ubuntu
[03:11] <tristanmike> thrillkill, it's easy once you get the hang of it
[03:11] <mwe> !deb
[03:11] <ubotu> To install a .deb file: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb  (but note that the program you want might be installable using !apt from the !repos)
[03:11] <tristanmike> !tell thrillkill about cli
[03:11] <elbow> how can help how to do it
[03:11] <malavar> dpkg -i file.deb
[03:11] <tristanmike> thrillkill, check your private message for some nice sites on the command line
[03:12] <martyn_> simon: that 2nd option looks right just dont know what the comand would be ill port it up on the forum
[03:12] <thrillkill> ok thanks ill read
[03:12] <tristanmike> thrillkill, I personally really like tuxfiles, very usefull and explains in easy to understand terms
[03:12] <mwe> elbow: look at what ubotu said. sudo dpkg -i foobar.deb
[03:12] <martyn_> simon: lol i have it to on my lappy lol
[03:12] <tkz> If there's an old version of particular software in official ubuntu repository, who should be informed about the availeability of newer version?
[03:13] <mwe> tkz: what do you mean?
[03:13] <roryy> tkz: new versions only appear in new ubuntu releases
[03:13] <mwe> tkz: programs stay in the versions they were released as
[03:13] <Gorax> newer libraries and such, I'm guessing
[03:13] <tristanmike> tkz, all applications are in what's called a "version freeze".  Most apps have newer versions out there, but they only get packaged for the next release
[03:13] <tkz> mwe, hmm, okey
[03:14] <mwe> tkz: to keep it stable
[03:14] <tristanmike> tkz, however, you can usually compile the "newest" software for use :)
[03:14] <tkz> thanks guys, I guess I'll just have to compile the programn from the source
[03:14] <saik0> !backports
[03:14] <thrillkill> 1 last Q is Ubuntu a good Distro for me to start with?
[03:14] <ubotu> somebody said backports was Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main universe multiverse restricted" (without the ") to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[03:14] <simon> thrillkill: yes :)
[03:15] <saik0> thrillkill, you'll only get biased answers here
[03:15] <mwe> tkz: well sometimes the backports provides newer versions
[03:15] <tristanmike> thrillkill, sure, it's not crazy hard, it "Just Works"TM, and still allows for a nice bit of learning =)
[03:15] <thrillkill> lol
[03:15] <Warp2> ubuntu is an excellent distribution to start with ... I have passed on ubuntu CDs to non-linux users and they've tried it and become converts
[03:15] <tkz> I'm just "worried" that this software (a training log called Kipin) is so never-heard-off that it'll stay in 0.1 version forever :)
[03:15] <tristanmike> I stand proudly behind Ubuntu and pass it on to everyone I can :)
[03:16] <Gorax> thrillkill, it's the first Linux distro I've had, and aside from some of my code not working, and the whole DVD playback thing I cbf dealing with (since I have a DVD player anyway), it's all good
[03:16] <thrillkill> wicked yeah i just got my mailed 20disks(10intel10AMD)
[03:17] <thrillkill> cool Gorax im a DVD person Whats up there?
[03:17] <simon> thrillkill: patents and stuff preventing ubuntu to include DVD support on the cd
[03:17] <Gorax> not sure... apparently there's a way to fix it, but if I'm going to watch a movie, I might as well do it from the comfort of my bed, instead of sitting at my computer ;)
[03:18] <Gorax> ^^ that too
[03:18] <thrillkill> LMAO yeah nice me to Gorax
[03:18] <simon> thrillkill: You can still watch DVDs, just search the ubuntu forums and you should find a way to do it
[03:18] <tristanmike> !dvd
[03:18] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[03:19] <thrillkill> you guys are cool thanks i was all most going to say F*&K it lol
[03:19] <AngryElf> hey all what's the name of the package that'll install the openATI driver?
[03:19] <AngryElf> not fglrx
[03:20] <saik0> AngryElf, It's installed by default
[03:20] <mwe> openATI? does that provide direct rendering?
[03:20] <simon> has anyone tried xgl?
[03:20] <mwe> !xgl
[03:20] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[03:20] <AngryElf> saik0, okay, well i need to uninstall fglrx and start using the open one again, how do i do that?
[03:21] <simon> no I want to hear what it is like, not how to do it :)
[03:21] <shpr> oin #ubuntu-es
[03:21] <shpr> hello
[03:21] <simon> hi
[03:21] <mwe> simon: it's cool. I tried it on a friends machine
[03:21] <simon> what can you do with it?
[03:22] <Apostle^> AngryElf: vesa ?
[03:22] <AngryElf> Apostle^, ?
[03:22] <Apostle^> AngryElf: the driver, vesa
[03:22] <shpr> I want to turn my desktop into this http://labor-liber.org/images/linux/xfce.jpg
[03:22] <mwe> simon: I mean really cool. you can do all sorts of things arranging windows like in osx and have a square desktop and what not
[03:22] <shpr> i'va already installed gdesklets+
[03:22] <tristanmike> simon, if you want, you can download a nice live cd to test xgl out, it's called korrora
[03:22] <gyro_54> How do run a file called "check.sh"
[03:22] <AngryElf> Apostle^, i dont know, whatever the open driver is......the ATI one is not working for me
[03:22] <saik0> AngryElf, sudo apt-get remove xorg-driver-fglrx; sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:22] <mwe> simon: a cube I mean
[03:22] <simon> tristanmike: Is there ppc support on that cd?
[03:22] <tristanmike> simon, actually it's called Kororra :P
[03:23] <codecaine> sh check.sh gyro
[03:23] <Apostle^> AngryElf: did you follow a good guide?
[03:23] <gyro_54> thanks
[03:23] <codecaine> np
[03:23] <deefzi> does anyone have nforce2-mobo?
[03:23] <tristanmike> simon, I mean, it's really called Kororaa :P
[03:23] <simon> shpr: You need to install xfce
[03:23] <simon> :)
[03:23] <AngryElf> yea, fglrx is getting loaded but i'm getting an error when it gets loaded
[03:23] <tristanmike> simon, but I'm not sure on ppc support, sorry
[03:23] <AngryElf> and i've looked everywhere for info on it
[03:23] <saik0> !tell AngryElf about ati
[03:24] <saik0> was that one of the places you looked?
[03:24] <tristanmike> simon, doesn't look like it, sorry
[03:25] <gyro_54> how do you check what version of xfree86 you have?
[03:25] <mwe> gyro_54: dpkg -l|grep xserver-xorg
[03:25] <ompaul> gyro_54 you mean which kind of xorg?
[03:26] <mwe> gyro_54: or maybe dpkg -l xserver-xorg is better
[03:26] <gyro_54> trying to update my ATI drivers - I need the version
[03:27] <Richew> i have already tried ubuntu, kubuntu, and xubuntu.. i can't decide w/c one to keep. can u help me decide?
[03:27] <Apostle^> Richew: well do you like gnome or kde better
[03:27] <simon> Richew: just pick one at random :)
[03:27] <jbroome> Richew: it's a personal preference
[03:27] <tristanmike> Richew, flip a coin
[03:28] <pip> ubotu, Hello!
[03:28] <ubotu> Hi, pip!
[03:28] <webmind> good morning
[03:28] <Apostle^> Richew: gnome = ubuntu \ kde = kubuntu
[03:28] <mwe> Richew: keep them all
[03:28] <ompaul> Richew, yes, follow these instructions carefully, write down the three of them on seperate pieces of paper put them in a hat and draw one of them :)
[03:28] <gyro_54> xorg is right - thanks for your help
[03:28] <Richew> yeah.. haha
[03:28] <saik0> !tell Richew about offtopic
[03:28] <ompaul> Richew, in fact I have all three and edubuntu installed and I use gnome as my desktop
[03:29] <simon> Richew: echo $[ $RANDOM % 3] 
[03:29] <mwe> what wm is edubuntu using as default?
[03:29] <ompaul> Richew, there is no better just choice and #ubuntu-offtopic is an interesting place for those chats
[03:29] <webmind> if I press a button like control for a long time
[03:29] <simon> 1 for kde 2 for gnome 3 for xfce
[03:29] <ompaul> mwe, a version of gnome
[03:29] <webmind> if asks me if I want slow button support or something
[03:30] <ompaul> mwe, its mostly a different theme, but there are extra edu packages
[03:30] <roryy> webmind: really? heh. windows has that too. i can't turn it off there either ;)
[03:30] <Gorax> it's like the stickey keys in windows, webmind
[03:30] <webmind> or the mouse button for a long time
[03:30] <webmind> while I'm actually working in inkscape
[03:30] <mwe> I see
[03:30] <shpr> i have already installed xfce4
[03:30] <shpr> simon
[03:30] <webmind> yes how do you turn it off ?
[03:30] <roryy> webmind: ask dapper questions in #ubuntu+1
[03:31] <mwe> roryy: you can. I did I don't remember how though
[03:31] <webmind> thanks
[03:31] <roryy> mwe: i think i just got conditioned not to hold down shift for more than 5 seconds ;)
[03:31] <mwe> roryy: heh. yeah
[03:32] <gyro_54> I now have an .rpm file to update my ATI drivers. What is the best way to deal with it?
[03:32] <shpr> i want to turn my desktop into something like this - >http://labor-liber.org/images/linux/xfce.jpg
[03:32] <tristanmike> gyro_54, don't use an .rpm :P
[03:32] <ompaul> gyro_54, don't
[03:32] <ompaul> !ati
[03:32] <ubotu> ati is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[03:32] <shpr> but where i can download that cool desklets
[03:32] <mwe> roryy: I tend to do it sometimes by accident if I press shift and then start thinking what I should actually type
[03:32] <ompaul> gyro_54, do it the ubuntu way ^^^^ its what its there for
[03:32] <gyro_54> Can't I turn it into a .deb file?
[03:32] <simon> shpr: http://www.xfce-look.org/
[03:33] <shpr> for gdesklets?
[03:33] <gyro_54> These are the proprietry drivers from ATI
[03:33] <tristanmike> gyro_54, rpm is for the Red Hat way, they don't translate "cleanly".  There can be danger
[03:33] <roryy> gyro_54: ubuntu supplies a packaged version of the proprietary drivers (slightly dated)
[03:34] <ompaul> gyro_54,  the way above is the ati way on ubuntu :)
[03:34] <unforcer> Hey is there way to optimize SATA drives? Feeling like it is not working correctly?
[03:34] <deefzi> does anyone have nforce2-mobo here?
[03:34] <gyro_54> I'll check the threads above - thanks
[03:34] <missingo> is there anyway to restore a POWERPC after installing ubuntu :/
[03:34] <saik0> !tell unforcer about dma
[03:34] <mwe> missingo: restore it?
[03:35] <simon> missingo: you want osx again?
[03:35] <missingo> yes i want osx again
[03:35] <unforcer> DMA? Does SATA drives have DMA?
[03:35] <simon> missingo: just insert the osx install disc and hold c
[03:35] <mwe> unforcer: yes
[03:35] <missingo> yeah but it cant pickup the hd
[03:35] <unforcer> well how to I know its on?
[03:36] <mwe> unforcer: sudo hdparm /dev/hda
[03:36] <missingo> shows no drive when it gets into installation
[03:36] <unforcer> hdparm -i /dev/sda dont tell me nothing
[03:36] <simon> missingo: in the top-menu you should be able to acces disk utility
[03:36] <missingo> not even in drive manger thing for osx
[03:36] <unforcer> IO_support   =  0 (default 16-bit)
[03:36] <missingo> yeah nothing in disk util
[03:36] <unforcer> mwe: tells nothing about DMA
[03:37] <unforcer> no DMA line on that?
[03:37] <mwe> unforcer: it should say using_dma 0|1
[03:37] <mechatronic> hi all
[03:37] <codecaine> anybody knows how to get aireplay to work with madwifi atheros card?
[03:37] <unforcer> mwe: hdparm is not serial ata tool
[03:37] <ompaul> unforcer, the wiki.ubuntu.com/Restricted page does say something about it
[03:38] <Apostle^> does anyonw know are wavepack files .wp ?
[03:38] <missingo> any ideas simon?
[03:38] <userbn> h
[03:38] <mechatronic> scuseme, is version of packages of apt-get list newest?
[03:38] <simon> missingo: no.. thats very weird
[03:38] <unforcer> ompaul: which one
[03:38] <unforcer> ?
[03:39] <missingo> reckon i should just take the drive out and format it blank on anthor machine?
[03:39] <ompaul> unforcer, the links on the dvd playback but now that was for dma, as for sata no idea
[03:39] <mwe> unforcer: but all sata drives should use dma
[03:39] <simon> missingo: that sound like a good idea
[03:40] <unforcer> mwe: it says nothing about dma, there are no line for dma
[03:40] <unforcer> lines*
[03:40] <missingo> hmm ok
[03:40] <unforcer> I have better performance in kororaa live cd than dapper
[03:41] <missingo> will windows beable to blank it?
[03:41] <mwe> unforcer: It was a brain fart. I don't think hdparm works for sata. it still uses dma though
[03:41] <simon> missingo: problably, you could also do it with fdisk from a linux cd
[03:41] <unforcer> yes.. dapper is faster than breezy..
[03:41] <saik0> unforcer, what does sudo hdparm /dev/sdX | grep dma
[03:41] <simon> missingo: if linux is able to find it
[03:41] <unforcer> saik0: nothing
[03:41] <saik0> unforcer: X being your device
[03:41] <Apostle^> ogg is better than mp3 correct?
[03:41] <missingo> linux runs
[03:42] <missingo> but i dont have a live cd
[03:42] <unforcer> saik0: yep
[03:42] <unforcer> its sudo apt-get /dev/sda | grep dma
[03:42] <unforcer> there is no lines for dma..
[03:42] <missingo> i cant format linux from inside the linux drive
[03:42] <codecaine> how do you pull up information about your wifi card?
[03:42] <unforcer> it not 0 or 1 there is nothing about it
[03:42] <missingo> can windows read/format it?
[03:43] <Apostle^> missingo: use a live-cd
[03:43] <missingo> dont have one :/
[03:43] <unforcer> so should I add the line?
[03:43] <saik0> missingo, yes windows can
[03:43] <Apostle^> missingo: im sure windows can format it with like partition magic
[03:43] <missingo> hmm ok
[03:43] <saik0> missingo, you can format it with the disk manager
[03:44] <saik0> missingo, no need for any other apps
[03:44] <ompaul> unforcer, for more backgound but no solution this may make interesting reading http://kerneltrap.org/node/5549
[03:44] <missingo> diskmanger can let me just blankthe drive?
[03:44] <codecaine> how can you tell what driver you using for your wifi card?
[03:44] <missingo> sweet
[03:44] <unforcer> ompaul: ok, thanks..
[03:44] <saik0> missingo, provided windows is'nt running off it of course
[03:44] <saik0> missingo, essentially, an OS cant format the filesystem it's running on
[03:45] <missingo> well ill rip out the mac laptop hd put it into the windows book,blank it and then put it back in the mac
[03:46] <tyrann> hallo
[03:46] <tyrann> a question
[03:46] <simon> hi
[03:46] <saik0> missingo, you could'nt just download and burn a live cd? they are really useful to have around...
[03:46] <tyrann> how can i mount a win partition named hda5?
[03:46] <tyrann> or better
[03:46] <tyrann> how to do a new folder?
[03:46] <simon> tyrann: mkdir foldername
[03:46] <AngryElf> hey all, when trying to install fglrx-kernel-2.6.12-10-386  it says "package fglrx-etc has no available version, but exists in database"....how do i get it installed?
[03:46] <missingo> dont have the bandwidth to get it
[03:47] <tyrann> thank you simon
[03:47] <missingo> i may have a x86 one but noth a powerpc copy ;/
[03:47] <erez> when i try to run add/remove it fails on start up and this is it's out put on it's terminal: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12380.  can anyone help me make it work?
[03:47] <mmmiiikkkeee> on the "add applications" program when i go to advanced... i get "Unable to get exclusive lock"
[03:47] <mmmiiikkkeee> how do  i resolve this?
[03:48] <burepe> Anyone want to tell me how to blow up a tv tuner card? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=926895#post926895
[03:48] <saik0> mmmiiikkkeee, are you runnung synaptic or apt-get from the command line?
[03:48] <tyrann> one more problem
[03:48] <mmmiiikkkeee> no
[03:48] <mmmiiikkkeee> i am not
[03:48] <tyrann> i mounted this, but the pc says i dont may look in the folder... how to say on english..
[03:48] <mmmiiikkkeee> no command line even open currently..
[03:49] <tyrann> i'm forbidden to look in it
[03:49] <tyrann> what to do?
[03:49] <mmmiiikkkeee> and synaptic is not open either..
[03:49] <Apostle^> is their a program like gnormalize that is still maintained?
[03:49] <tyrann> ?
[03:49] <simon> tyrann: can you look in it as root?
[03:49] <tyrann> ahm
[03:49] <tyrann> how to do this ^^
[03:50] <simon> tyrann: sudo ls /where/you/mounted/the/drive
[03:50] <tyrann> ok
[03:50] <tyrann> yes, i can, it shows the folders in it
[03:50] <mmmiiikkkeee> is there a way besides rebootig to get arounds this???
[03:51] <mmmiiikkkeee> rebootign it the only thing to have found to remove the "exclusie lock"
[03:51] <tyrann> ?
[03:51] <saik0> mmmiiikkkeee, hold on
[03:51] <tyrann> so how can i show this folder as a normal user?
[03:52] <Chris_Tucker> is there a way to force the system to reload all (the entirety) of the xorg.conf? restarting GDM works for most changes, but for some reason not a change to mouse config
[03:52] <gnomefreak> mmmiiikkkeee: what is the output of sudo apt-get update?
[03:53] <simon> tyrann: what do you have on the hd?
[03:53] <tyrann> which one?
[03:53] <tyrann> the one i mounted?
[03:53] <nadia> Hello, I'm new to Edubuntu. Sound doesn't work for gcompris. Any ideas?
[03:53] <simon> tyrann: yes
[03:53] <tyrann> some win programms and a lot of music
[03:53] <tyrann> and i want to copy the music in my home
[03:54] <tyrann> yes, that would be the best
[03:54] <mmmiiikkkeee> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12381 is the output from  sudo apt-get update
[03:54] <simon> tyrann: you could do sudo chmod -R a+r /where/you/mounted
[03:54] <saik0> mmmiiikkkeee, sudo fuser /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[03:54] <burepe>  I load # sudo modprobe saa7134 card=3 tuner=5 do I have to unload it before I try loading another one?
[03:54] <simon> tyrann: that would give every user read permission on everything
[03:54] <tyrann> ok this would work
[03:55] <tyrann> thank you, i guess it works
[03:55] <simon> np
[03:55] <mmmiiikkkeee> sudo fuser /var/lib/dpkg/lock  did not do any thing at all..??
[03:55] <tyrann> one more question
[03:55] <AngryElf> hey all, when trying to install fglrx-kernel-2.6.12-10-386  it says "package fglrx-kernel-2.6.12-10-386 has no available version, but exists in database"....how do i get it installed?
[03:56] <tyrann> how to set the dns server forever?
[03:56] <tyrann> if i do it in the configuration prog i have to change it all the time i log in
[03:57] <tyrann> ahm sorry simon
[03:57] <tyrann> but it don't works
[03:57] <tyrann> it doesn't work
[03:57] <simon> tyrann: what error do you get?
[03:57] <tyrann> no error
[03:58] <simon> tyrann: how about when you try to cd into the disk as a normal user?
[03:58] <tyrann> you mean to look in it as a normal user?
[03:58] <simon> tyrann: yes
[03:58] <saik0> tyrann, gksudo gedit /etc/resolv.conf
[03:58] <tyrann> that i dont have the right to look in it simon
[03:59] <burepe> If I load a driver do I have to unload it before I load another one for the same device?
[03:59] <tyrann> so what saiko?
[03:59] <tyrann> it opens a file... what to do in it?
[03:59] <simon> tyrann: try sudo chmod a+x /where/you/mounted/it
[03:59] <simon> tyrann: that should give you the permission to look into it
[04:00] <Apostle^> is their a program like gnormalize that is still maintained?
[04:00] <saik0> Apostle^, "SoundConverter"
[04:00] <stevenmadow> hello
[04:00] <tyrann> no. it doesn't works... maybe i have to relogin?
[04:00] <naxxtor> i have a new interesting problem! yesterday I added the CPU scaling applet to the gnome taskbar - and it worked, it scaled according to demand and everything - but when i boot up today it says "CPU scaling is not suppoorted" and sticks to 100%
[04:00] <stevenmadow> i have a quick question (i'm very new to ubuntu)
[04:01] <Apostle^> saik0: thanks
[04:01] <stevenmadow> i installed ubuntu 5.10, but the GUI wont show up
[04:01] <tyrann> @ simon it doesnt work
[04:01] <tyrann> maybe i have to relogin?
[04:01] <stevenmadow> any ideas
[04:01] <naxxtor> stevenmadow, is X failing to start?
[04:01] <stevenmadow> i get the splash screen gui
[04:01] <stevenmadow> but nothing adter that
[04:01] <stevenmadow> *after
[04:01] <stevenmadow> what is x
[04:01] <saik0> naxxtor, see what 'sudo /etc/init.d/powernowd restart' does
[04:01] <stevenmadow> hah
[04:02] <beta_m> how do i do sudo but for a graphical application?
[04:02] <doktoreas> hi guys
[04:02] <doktoreas> anyone is currently using a live ubuntu?
[04:02] <stevenmadow> "unable to locate rsdp"
[04:02] <saik0> beta_m, gksudo
[04:02] <stevenmadow> is that related?
[04:02] <beta_m> thanks
[04:02] <tyrann> hm..
[04:02] <tyrann> okr
[04:02] <tyrann> or
[04:02] <naxxtor> saik0, ok, it works now ... so how come that didn't work when i started it up?
[04:03] <tyrann> does anyone know how to copy a folder with the console?
[04:03] <tyrann> i mean terminal
[04:03] <saik0> naxxtor, I havo no idea =\
[04:03] <simon> tyrann: cp -R original copy
[04:03] <tyrann> so you mean sudo -R /win/music /home/Tyrann ?
[04:04] <tyrann> if /win is where the original is?
[04:04] <thoreauputic> tyrann: erm
[04:04] <tyrann> ^^
[04:04] <thoreauputic> tyrann: cp -R
[04:04] <tyrann> O.o
[04:04] <tyrann> ok i'll try
[04:04] <naxxtor> stevenmadow, do you get any error messages?
[04:04] <thoreauputic> and sudo should not be necessary
[04:05] <saik0> then he's going to have to chown and probably chmod it....
[04:05] <stevenmadow> um
[04:05] <stevenmadow> yeah
[04:05] <stevenmadow> rsdp not loading or somethng
[04:06] <naxxtor> stevenmadow, does it look anything like this: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?s=&threadid=301711
[04:07] <saik0> tyrann, If you dont have access to a vfat or ntfs volume as a user thats because it is'nt mounted properly.
[04:07] <stevenmadow> I saw that before, but I don't think its that
[04:07] <tyrann> ahm one more problem
[04:07] <stevenmadow> if it helps, I'm running it through qemu
[04:07] <tyrann> the folder is called "my Music
[04:07] <cocox> hi there
[04:07] <simon> tyrann: my\ Music should work
[04:07] <stevenmadow> is there something i can type in the prompt to get the GUI up
[04:07] <naxxtor> stevenmadow, if you could find out the exact error message we might be able to help better
[04:08] <tyrann> ok
[04:08] <simon> stevenmadow: /etc/init.d/xdm start
[04:08] <tyrann> ok saikO that's possible
[04:08] <naxxtor> stevenmadow, assuming you get a prompt of some kind
[04:08] <saik0> stevenmadow: /etc/init.d/gdm start
[04:08] <cocox> anyone knows whish application is a god one for music share and download just like a p2p app here in ubuntu ????????????
[04:08] <simon> cocox: azureus for bittorrent and valknut for dc
[04:08] <stevenmadow> it gave no such file or dir for that
[04:09] <cocox> simon, what is dc ?
[04:09] <simon> cocox: direct connect
[04:09] <erUSUL> cocox: amule, mldonkey,
[04:09] <tyrann> ok so now it is umount
[04:09] <naxxtor> stevenmadow, did you complete the installation?
[04:09] <ConfidentiaL> I have some problems setting up phpmyadmin here. I have installed apache, php is working, mysql is working, but when I try to access the phpmyadmin folder in my browser, it asks me what I want to open this "PHTML" file with... Any1 know what's wrong?
[04:09] <stevenmadow> I thought so
[04:09] <cocox> ok plz i know that there is a lot in the web but the best one ????????????
[04:09] <tyrann> sudo mount /dev/hda5 /where/i/want should work?
[04:09] <saik0> stevenmadow, it's gdm, not xdm
[04:09] <stevenmadow> anyway to check?
[04:09] <stevenmadow> I tried both
[04:09] <simon> cocox: you have to be more specific
[04:09] <bobbyd> hi
[04:10] <saik0> stevenmadow, did you do a server install?
[04:10] <bobbyd> is there some app in ubuntu to let you edit the environment variables?
[04:10] <tyrann> ?
[04:10] <cocox> mmmmm wish one is the more quick and trusth...
[04:10] <stevenmadow> saik0, no, i did regular install
[04:10] <erUSUL> tyrann: yes
[04:10] <tyrann> i'm sorry i'm really a noob^^
[04:10] <simon> cocox: I mean what protocol
[04:10] <naxxtor> stevenmadow, well have a look at this: http://tinyurl.com/gbuw3 it's a bit out of date, but it's still mostly valid
[04:11] <stevenmadow> thanks
[04:11] <cocox> ohhh mmmm im pretty noob at this plz help me which protocol 'd be the best ?
[04:11] <tyrann> so now same problem as before..
[04:11] <speedie> how do I set an environment variable and execute a command on the same line? (ie, for a sudo command that needs an environemnt variable)
[04:11] <stevenmadow> naxxtor: do I need to be using the edubuntu?
[04:12] <cocox> simon,  ohhh mmmm im pretty noob at this plz help me which protocol 'd be the best ?
[04:12] <saik0> stevenmadow, sudo apt-get install gdm
[04:12] <simon> cocox: get valknut and mldonkey and play around with them a bit too see which one you like the most
[04:12] <tyrann> mounted, dismounted, remounted, but the same problem...
[04:12] <naxxtor> stevenmadow, i don't think so...
[04:12] <stevenmadow> saik0: it did some commands, thanks
[04:13] <stevenmadow> looks like it may work
[04:13] <cocox> simon, thnx dude :)
[04:13] <sands> Yeah I too got that prob with php files I solved it by editing aapche config
[04:13] <saik0> stevenmadow, now sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[04:13] <stevenmadow> well, one second, its telling me to put  the CD in
[04:13] <stevenmadow> so i need to change the virtual drive, this will take a minute
[04:14] <tyrann> if i tried the cp -R ?? it said it don't find the folder.. no it said it don't find the "Music" of "my Music",,,
[04:14] <saik0> stevenmadow, you could remove the cdrom from your aptsources...
[04:15] <ConfidentiaL> I have some problems setting up phpmyadmin here. I have installed apache, php is working, mysql is working, but when I try to access the phpmyadmin folder in my browser, it asks me what I want to open this "PHTML" file with... Any1 know what's wrong?
[04:15] <thoreauputic> tyrann: tab complete the file name - and try not to use spaces ( yes, I know it's a windows folder)
[04:16] <adhoc> ConfidentiaL: check your /etc/apache/httpd.conf file to see if the php4 module is being loaded
[04:16] <tyrann> ? sorry what?
[04:16] <sands> ConfidentiaL, are other php scripts working??
[04:16] <thoreauputic> tyrann: or put it in quotes " My Music"
[04:16] <adhoc> ConfidentiaL: it might be commented out
[04:16] <tyrann> @ok i'll try
[04:16] <adhoc> ConfidentiaL: you will need to restart apache
[04:16] <adhoc> hi AngryElf
[04:17] <AngryElf> hi adhoc
[04:17] <tyrann> so the terminal doesn't anything, it strikes ^^ @ thoreauputic
[04:18] <thoreauputic> tyrann: you mean it returns a prompt - in that case it worked
[04:18] <tyrann> ahm ok
[04:18] <[wiebel] > hi there
[04:18] <thoreauputic> tyrann: silence is good in *nix
[04:18] <ConfidentiaL> adhoc: what should be included there to load php?
[04:18] <[wiebel] > I've just installed msttcorefonts but my X doesnt seems to see them
[04:18] <tyrann> the folder is copied, but i don't have the permission to look inside^^
[04:18] <[wiebel] > any clue's? :)
[04:18] <adhoc> ConfidentiaL: search for 'php' and check that the module are not commented out for PHP4
[04:19] <AngryElf> what does:  E:xorg-driver-fglrx: subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 2"
[04:19] <tyrann> same problem as before ^^
[04:19] <AngryElf> what does that mean? ^^
[04:19] <thoreauputic> tyrann: sudo chown -R youruser:youruser foldername
[04:19] <thoreauputic> where youruser is the name you use of course
[04:19] <tyrann> so tyrann ^^ ok
[04:20] <tyrann> foldername  as /home/tyrann etc?
[04:20] <thoreauputic> tyrann: yes
[04:20] <tyrann> ok
[04:20] <thoreauputic> tyrann: /home/tyrann/"My Music"  or whatever
[04:20] <ConfidentiaL> adhoc: its like 8 lines of text :S
[04:20] <thoreauputic> note the quotes
[04:21] <adhoc> ConfidentiaL: the whole config file, or the PHP4 modules lines?
[04:21] <thoreauputic> tyrann: Linux doesn't like spaces in file names
[04:21] <ConfidentiaL> the whole httpd.conf file
[04:21] <tyrann> thank you :D:D
[04:21] <adhoc> ConfidentiaL: oh
[04:21] <tyrann> it works :D
[04:21] <thoreauputic> tyrann: :)
[04:22] <tyrann> thank you all for your grateful help (hoping grateful is positiv)
[04:22] <tyrann> ^^
[04:22] <Apostle^> no you can't take it, no you can't take it that away from me
[04:22] <tyrann> so long
[04:22] <tyrann> nice channel
[04:22] <thoreauputic> tyrann: I suggest you rename the folder to something like My_Music
[04:22] <thoreauputic> hmm rapid exit
[04:23] <burepe_> If I load a driver with modprobe do i have to unload it before I can load another one for the same pci card?
[04:23] <adhoc> ConfidentiaL: is apache actually installed? and configured?
[04:23] <adhoc> AngryElf: what you up to ?
[04:24] <AngryElf> i'm about to rip my ati card out break it in half
[04:24] <ConfidentiaL> yes, I got an other guy to configure it, because it didn't work at first, but now it does... exept for php tho...
[04:24] <ConfidentiaL> adhoc: yes, I got an other guy to configure it, because it didn't work at first, but now it does... exept for php tho...
[04:24] <adhoc> ConfidentiaL: you running apache 2.x ?
[04:25] <ConfidentiaL> adhoc: yep
[04:25] <adhoc> AngryElf: i know how you feel =)
[04:25] <burepe_> AngryElf, I feel you. I am having the same thing.
[04:25] <AngryElf> i just apt-get removed everything fglrx related
[04:25] <thoreauputic> !ati
[04:25] <adhoc> ConfidentiaL: ok how about in the conf.d directory instead? anything in there? 'grep php *
[04:25] <ubotu> I guess ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[04:25] <AngryElf> and lsmod still shows fglrx
[04:25] <burepe_> I more feel like torturing the card to repay it for what it has done to me
[04:25] <AngryElf> the wiki's info on ati is bogus :(
[04:25] <adhoc> AngryElf: that would be a kernel module then?
[04:26] <thoreauputic> AngryElf: sudo rmmod fglrx  ?
[04:26] <ConfidentiaL> adhoc: charset and phpmyadmin.conf
[04:26] <AngryElf> yea but it comes back when i reboot
[04:26] <tompei> is there anyone who speaks german???
[04:26] <elkbuntu> !de
[04:26] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de
[04:26] <void^> !de
[04:26] <AngryElf> and i can reinstall it because there's something wrong with uninstalling xorg-driver-fglrx
[04:26] <tompei> !de
[04:26] <ConfidentiaL> adhoc: maybe I should configure the phpmyadmin.conf ? :P its kinda wrong...
[04:27] <thoreauputic> AngryElf: try sudo apt-get remove --purge
[04:27] <tompei> i have a little problem
[04:27] <stevenmadow> saik0 and naxxtor, it looks like this is going to work, thanks so much for your help
[04:27] <tompei> need someone to help
[04:27] <burepe_> what you need
[04:27] <burepe_> ?
[04:27] <burepe_> I ain't getting any help so I am at your service if I can be
[04:27] <elkbuntu> tompei, write your entire question on one line so we can follow it without having to find it amongst the rest of the chatter
[04:28] <burepe_> word
[04:28] <tompei> ive ubuntu already installed, but theres an Root Standard konfigured, an i dont know the pass
[04:28] <thoreauputic> !root
[04:28] <Tomcat_> !root
[04:28] <ubotu> I heard root is Direct logging as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[04:28] <burepe_> tompei kubntu use sudo
[04:28] <thoreauputic> tompei: ^^^
[04:29] <thoreauputic> tompei: read the wiki page
[04:29] <burepe_> write sudo and tehn the command you want to do and it will ask for a password
[04:29] <tompei> that means i cant logg on as root???
[04:29] <adhoc> Tomcat_, thoreauputic; i still recon the root disabled thing is broken...
[04:29] <C-O-L-T> Hello Happy Easter
[04:29] <burepe_> you can the faq will tell you how
[04:29] <webmind> does anyone know how the automatic upgrade systemw orkd on ubuntu cd's ?
[04:29] <thoreauputic> adhoc: *sigh* this is such an old topic
[04:29] <webmind> the autorun kine like functions
[04:29] <webmind> -s
[04:29] <Tomcat_> adhoc: broken how? root isn't disabled anyway, just the login.
[04:29] <burepe_> but sudo is like a temporary root and it is safer
[04:30] <adhoc> thoreauputic: yeah i know, but its irksome ...
[04:30] <saik0> tompei, it means you shoudl read the wiki
[04:30] <tompei> oki
[04:30] <adhoc> thoreauputic: im not pushing it tho
[04:30] <thoreauputic> guys, PLEASE not the root vs sudo war again
[04:30] <tompei> ill be back
[04:30] <tompei> thx
[04:30] <Gorax> use sudo -s -H <-- that might be what you're looking for, tompei
[04:30] <Tomcat_> adhoc: There are advantages and disadvantages for both concepts. And now I'll drop the topic. ;)
[04:30] <thoreauputic> sudo -i is recommended
[04:30] <adhoc> thoreauputic: when all the apps play nicely with sudo i'd be happy ;)
[04:31] <mthakur> ca ne1 help me out with apache?
[04:31] <Tomcat_> mthakur: Please ask a more detailed question, maybe someone can. :)
[04:31] <thoreauputic> !anyone
[04:31] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[04:31] <tyrann> im sorry to ask again
[04:31] <tyrann> but
[04:31] <tyrann> how do i see that the system has finished the copying?
[04:32] <thoreauputic> tyrann: you get the prompt back
[04:32] <Tomcat_> tyrann: USB/MP3 stick by any chance?
[04:32] <mthakur> Tomcat_ : my question is a very basic one - if you make a webpage, how do u see it in the web browser when you type http://localhost/ ?
[04:32] <tyrann> what is the prombt ^^
[04:32] <thoreauputic> tyrann: when the command is doen
[04:32] <thoreauputic> *done
[04:32] <tyrann> so it says something?
[04:32] <thoreauputic> tyrann: like $
[04:32] <Tomcat_> mthakur: Well, install some kind of webserver and put the website into the siteroot folder. /var/www for apache.
[04:32] <tyrann> is says ?
[04:32] <tyrann> $ mean?
[04:32] <thoreauputic> tyrann: it only says something if there's a problem :)
[04:32] <tyrann> @tomcat_ what?
[04:32] <mthakur> Tomcat_, I have installed XAMPP..
[04:33] <tyrann> ok but you know the last times it always just copied some of  the folders ^^
[04:33] <AngryElf> hey all, i need xorg-driver-fglrx 8.24.8-1........8.22.5-1 is the latest from the default repos......where might i find 8.24?
[04:33] <Tomcat_> tyrann: Are you copying something to a USB drive or something? Because it's different there... in most cases the other guys are right, when you get back the prompt you have finished copying.
[04:33] <thoreauputic> tyrann: read http://tuxfiles.org
[04:33] <thoreauputic> tyrann: an introduction to the command line
[04:33] <Tomcat_> mthakur: Does http://localhost show anything at all?
[04:34] <tyrann> @tomcat_ no i'm copying from a win drive @ thoreauputic thank you very much
[04:34] <mthakur> Tomcat_, localhost show the XAMPP page with its documentation and all.
[04:34] <thoreauputic> tyrann: the idea is that commands in *nix can be piped to other commands - you don't want output unless it is an error or warning
[04:34] <tyrann> oh fuck this is on englisch ^^ you know if tuxfiles.org is also aviable in german?
[04:35] <Tomcat_> mthakur: In that case you only need to copy your website to /var/www
[04:35] <elkbuntu> tyrann, language check please
[04:35] <anymo> mthakur, why not enabling the user dir in apache conf and creating a public_html in your home?
[04:35] <tyrann> ok
[04:35] <tyrann> sorry
[04:35] <thoreauputic> tyrann: I suggest googling for beginners tutorials in german
[04:35] <anymo> mthakur, so you'll put your files there and access them this way: http://localhost/~username...
[04:35] <mthakur> anymo, what's the username?
[04:35] <Sn3f3ru> hi guys; stupid noob question: how I do I find what version of ubuntu I am running? I need it to install the ati drivers
[04:36] <anymo> mthakur, your user name
[04:36] <thoreauputic> tyrann: or ask in #ubuntu-de
[04:36] <Tomcat_> Sn3f3ru: lsb_release -a
[04:36] <anymo> mthakur, /home/xxx/ where xxx is your username
[04:36] <tyrann> hm... but i have no possibility to know if the process is finished? @thoreauputic ... oh this channel exists^^
[04:36] <Sn3f3ru> thanks Tomcat_
[04:36] <rui> boas tardes, algum portugus ?
[04:36] <Tomcat_> !pt
[04:36] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[04:36] <mthakur> anymo, i am a complete newbie..
[04:36] <burepe_> Sn3f3ru, do ctrl+alt+F1 and it will say at the top. alt+F7 to get out
[04:36] <tyrann> ok thank you all ^^
[04:37] <thoreauputic> tyrann: yes - if it comes back with nothing, the command succeeded
[04:37] <tyrann> you were a great help
[04:37] <rui> boas tomcat, podes dar uma ajuda?
[04:37] <anymo> mthakur, ok, do you have apache2?
[04:37] <Tomcat_> !pt rui
[04:37] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Tomcat_
[04:37] <Tomcat_> !tell rui about pt
[04:37] <Sn3f3ru> thnks guys; lsb_release worked fine
[04:37] <thoreauputic> tyrann: that is, you get back the prompt ( something like peter@prospero~:$
[04:37] <Tomcat_> rui: I can't speak Portuguese. :o
[04:37] <mthakur> anymo, i have xampp which installs apache2.2.0 as default.
[04:38] <anymo> mthakur, ok, check if you have this file /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[04:39] <tyrann> thank you, i guess it has copied everything i knew i had
[04:39] <thoreauputic> tyrann: silence is golden :)
[04:39] <mthakur> anymo, yes i have it.
[04:39] <tyrann> ah now i see "tyrann@ubuntu: -$" ^^ thank you
[04:39] <tyrann> bye
[04:40] <anymo> mthakur, ok open it now (as root I think) so maybe go to console and type sudo gedit /etc/apache2/apache3.conf
[04:40] <anymo> mthakur, apache2.conf sry
[04:40] <mthakur> anymo, g2g
[04:40] <burepe_> ?If I load a driver with modprobe do i have to unload it before I can load another one for the same pci card?
[04:40] <Sn3f3ru> I am trying to install eclipse-base; I see it on packages.ubuntulinux.org, but in Adept I cannot find it; does it need a special repository?
[04:41] <burepe_> Sn3f3ru, do you know source-o-matic?
[04:41] <burepe_> !source-o-matic
[04:41] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[04:41] <Sn3f3ru> not until now ;-)
[04:41] <burepe_> it rules
[04:41] <burepe_> way easy
[04:42] <burepe_> do you know how to edit you sources.list?
[04:42] <thoreauputic> elkbuntu: how are things in Albury? Or is that someone else I'm thinking of?
[04:42] <ConfidentiaL> how do I get a list of all currently installed packages?
[04:42] <thoreauputic> ConfidentiaL: dpkg -l | less
[04:42] <elkbuntu> thoreauputic, it is me, and this is wrong channel ;)
[04:42] <thoreauputic> ConfidentiaL: it will be a long list
[04:43] <batman> anyone here play doom 3 or quake 4 on ubuntu?
[04:43] <thoreauputic> elkbuntu: heh - you mean /j #ubuntu-au ?
[04:43] <elkbuntu> or offtopic
[04:43] <thoreauputic> elkbuntu: OK
[04:43] <thoreauputic> :)
[04:43] <eggzeck> Sn3f3ru, I'm sure all you have to do is enable 'multiverse'
[04:44] <eggzeck> Sn3f3ru, in your /etc/sources.list
[04:44] <Sn3f3ru> I know about it
[04:44] <Sn3f3ru> I use debian for servers
[04:44] <eggzeck> this isn't debian :)
[04:44] <eggzeck> even though it is based on Debian
[04:44] <Sn3f3ru> apt based
[04:45] <elbow> Question:   how can I install new packages into ubuntu_
[04:45] <elbow> ?
[04:45] <tristanmike> !tell elbow about synaptic
[04:45] <eggzeck> elbow, a few ways, you can use Synaptic or apt-get
[04:45] <elbow> whats synaptic
[04:45] <tristanmike> elbow, check your private message from ubotu
[04:45] <elbow> apt-get doesnt work
[04:45] <Sn3f3ru> aptitude to the rescue ;-)
[04:45] <mwe> elbow: it does
[04:46] <eggzeck> elbow, System->Administration->Synaptic Package Manager
[04:46] <mwe> elbow: you need to use it with sudo though
[04:46] <naxxtor> elbow, what do you mean it doesn't work?
[04:46] <tristanmike> !tell elbow about sudo
[04:46] <naxxtor> (wow you're getting a lot of attention ;))
[04:46] <elbow> first I tried sudo
[04:46] <elbow> but it also doesnt work
[04:46] <mwe> elbow: how did you break it?
[04:47] <elbow> sytaptic is integrated into Ubuntu?
[04:47] <naxxtor> elbow, what error messages are you getting? that might give you a clue on how to fix it
[04:47] <naxxtor> elbow, AFAIK it is, yes
[04:48] <eggzeck> elbow, I just showed you how to use it: System->Administration->Synaptic Package Manager
[04:48] <mwe> elbow: it won't work if sudo is not working, but it probably is
[04:48] <eggzeck> elbow, but if you broke your sudo it wont' work
[04:48] <stevenmadow> ok, so the GUI still won't work
[04:48] <stevenmadow> any ideas naxxtor?
[04:49] <naxxtor> stevenmadow, how far have you got now?
[04:49] <naxxtor> stevenmadow, can you find anything useful in /var/log/syslog?
[04:50] <stevenmadow> actually, some weird screen just showed up with blue in the BG and weird ascii numbers, saying "failed to start the x server (your graphical interface).  It is likely that it is not set up correctly.
[04:50] <naxxtor> stevenmadow, you're getting somewhere then ;)
[04:50] <tristanmike> stevenmadow, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[04:50] <naxxtor> stevenmadow, you might want to run xconf - i think that's installed on ubuntu?
[04:50] <stevenmadow> it now says "Xserver not found: /usr/X11R6/bin/x
[04:51] <naxxtor> tristanmike, that's the command i was looking for :p
[04:51] <burepe_> If I "# sudo modprobe saa7134 card=3 tuner=5"  Do I do "# sudo modprobe -r saa7134"  or "# sudo modprobe -r saa7134 card=3 tuner=5
[04:51] <burepe_> " to remove it?
[04:51] <tompei> ok ill understand
[04:51] <graveson> how do i integrate real player into my browser.i am doing some online courses but firefox keeps on crashing or giving me errors that real player is not installed
[04:51] <stevenmadow> ok, im doing  "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[04:51] <naxxtor> stevenmadow, did you run sudo apt-get install xorg?
[04:51] <stevenmadow> I'lll do that
[04:52] <thoreauputic> !realplayer
[04:52] <ubotu> well, realplayer is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:52] <tristanmike> graveson, you might want to try the firefox "MediaPlayerConnectivity" extenstion
[04:52] <stevenmadow> couldnt find package xorg
[04:52] <NickSp> hi all!!!
[04:52] <thoreauputic> stevenmadow: xserver-xorg
[04:53] <stevenmadow> i think it found xserver but not xorg?
[04:53] <stevenmadow> wait... it says
[04:53] <naxxtor> stevenmadow, listen to thoreauputic
[04:53] <naxxtor> :p
[04:53] <mwe> stevenmadow: the package name is xserver-xorg
[04:53] <thoreauputic> stevenmadow: all one word with a hyphen : xserver-xorg
[04:53] <stevenmadow> i typer that
[04:53] <stevenmadow> *typed
[04:53] <arwin24> #semarang
[04:53] <thoreauputic> stevenmadow: no you didn't
[04:53] <thoreauputic> :)
[04:54] <stevenmadow> -bash: xserver-xorg: command not found
[04:54] <Sn3f3ru> !fglrx
[04:54] <ubotu> fglrx is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:54] <thoreauputic> stevenmadow: it *has* to be there :)
[04:54] <stevenmadow> jsut type "xserver-xorg"?
[04:54] <mwe> stevenmadow: install, don't run it
[04:54] <tristanmike> stevenmadow, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[04:54] <naxxtor> stevenmadow, sudo apt-get xserver-xorg
[04:54] <thoreauputic> stevenmadow: it isn't a command
[04:54] <naxxtor> don't listen to me
[04:55] <stevenmadow> ok, i'll try all of those
[04:55] <naxxtor> i type commands wrong :p
[04:55] <stevenmadow> thanks by the way
[04:55] <thoreauputic> stevenmadow: it's a package name
[04:55] <naxxtor> if it's anything it's sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg - but that just installs it
[04:55] <martyn_> Would WiINE be able to run MS office 03
[04:55] <thoreauputic> martyn_: probably not
[04:55] <naxxtor> martyn_, good luck.
[04:55] <tristanmike> martyn_, use open office :)
[04:55] <thoreauputic> martyn_: you might need crossover office
[04:56] <naxxtor> does crossover office run photoshop CS?
[04:56] <thoreauputic> martyn_: what is wrong with OpenOffice ?
[04:56] <martyn_> Yeah been trying to get a vopy of Crossover
[04:56] <mwe> martyn_: crossover wont run office 03
[04:56] <MTecknology> When I use apt-get dist-upgrade and have to exit before it finishes with its GET#: ****, when i restart it, will it redownload all files or will it start from the last completed package?
[04:56] <mwe> I think
[04:56] <stevenmadow> ok, so it says package 'zserver-xorg' is not installed and noinfo is available.
[04:56] <martyn_> thoreauputic: some stuff i use for uni i cant use in it like VBA applictions
[04:56] <mwe> only office-xp
[04:56] <naxxtor> stevenmadow, xserver-xorg ;)
[04:57] <tristanmike> stevenmadow, ....watch closely
[04:57] <stevenmadow> typo
[04:57] <tristanmike> stevenmadow, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[04:57] <stevenmadow> i typed it correctly in the prompt
[04:57] <martyn_> Crossover 5 does
[04:57] <thoreauputic> martyn_: ah VB - yuk :(
[04:57] <martyn_> lol
[04:57] <ConfidentiaL> is it possible to uninstall all packages installed after OS installation with one command?
[04:57] <mwe> martyn_: all of it even? not just word?
[04:57] <MTecknology> When I use apt-get dist-upgrade and have to exit before it finishes with its GET#: ****, when i restart it, will it redownload all files or will it start from the last completed package?
[04:57] <thoreauputic> ConfidentiaL: erm - could you make a bit more sense?
[04:57] <martyn_> it all
[04:57] <bobbyd> MTecknology, the latter
[04:58] <LinuxHelp> Tell me, is there an easy netinstall for ubuntu?
[04:58] <stevenmadow> i double checked what i typed into terminal, and it was what you said
[04:58] <Xenguy> !kept back
[04:58] <ubotu> kept back is probably If you get a message "The following packages have been kept back", after performing an 'apt-get update' and 'apt-get upgrade', try this command to resolve dependencies:  apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:58] <LinuxHelp> caus I'm sick of Fedora Breaking itself
[04:58] <MTecknology> bobbyd, so... how does it work?
[04:58] <martyn_> Well i have just got Guild Wars working and installed via WINE
[04:58] <thoreauputic> stevenmadow: *cough*    -->    sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:58] <AngryElf> where's that other dude that was having problems with his ati drivers?
[04:58] <bobbyd> MTecknology, it checkes the files's it's downloaded then resumes the ones it was busy with...
[04:58] <stevenmadow> so how do I install this missing xserver
[04:59] <bobbyd> MTecknology, that's what it looks like to me
[04:59] <mwe> stevenmadow: we told you
[04:59] <anymo> stevenmadow, you can try sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg
[04:59] <mwe> stevenmadow: several time
[04:59] <ConfidentiaL> thoreauputic: I want a clean installation of the packages included when u install linux. All other I want removed. I wanna start from scratch without reinstalling linux...
[04:59] <thoreauputic> stevenmadow:  sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg
[04:59] <naxxtor> general question here: will I be able to upgrade to dapper when it's released from breezy?
[04:59] <tristanmike> stevenmadow, "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg"
[04:59] <stevenmadow> same error
[04:59] <linuxgeekery> naxxtor: yup
[04:59] <mwe> naxxtor: yes
[04:59] <MTecknology> bobbyd, ty
[04:59] <ConfidentiaL> thoreauputic: get it? :P
[04:59] <stevenmadow> so its not changing
[04:59] <thoreauputic> ConfidentiaL: no
[04:59] <linuxgeekery> naxxtor: apt-get dist-upgrade, and you're done.
[04:59] <stevenmadow> ive typed it ten times
[04:59] <stevenmadow> same problem
[04:59] <tristanmike> stevenmadow, post it on pastebin
[05:00] <mwe> linuxgeekery: he needs to change mirrors first
[05:00] <thoreauputic> ConfidentiaL: what do you mean? A commandline only u=install?
[05:00] <missingo> how can i format all my drives on my hd, via a live cd
[05:00] <naxxtor> linuxgeekery, sweet :) i love apt :D
[05:00] <linuxgeekery> naxxtor: what mwe said, too
[05:00] <stevenmadow> oo, tristanmike, that helped i think
[05:00] <ConfidentiaL> thoreauputic: like "set back time to when I installed linux"
[05:00] <stevenmadow> it looks like it is now installing xserver-xorg
[05:00] <thoreauputic> ConfidentiaL: as it stands, your question still doesn't make sense
[05:00] <Sn3f3ru> I am starting to like ubuntu ;-)
[05:00] <naxxtor> it's just a matter of changing breezy to dapper in source.lst right?
[05:00] <Sn3f3ru> sweet
[05:00] <thoreauputic> ConfidentiaL: do you mean a default Ubuntu install?
[05:01] <mwe> I think they're working on a gui tool that make upgrading a one click process more or less though
[05:01] <linuxgeekery> naxxtor: yup
[05:01] <linuxgeekery> naxxtor: or you could use the sources.list generator
[05:01] <linuxgeekery> !sources
[05:01] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[05:01] <ConfidentiaL> thoreauputic: yes, because many of the packages are f***ed...
[05:01] <linuxgeekery> !tell naxxtor about easysource
[05:01] <thoreauputic> ConfidentiaL: so find out which ones and uninstall those
[05:02] <naxxtor> sweet!  i'd got quite accustomed to using nano :p
[05:02] <The_Op> i have a usb hard drive that is partitions in two NTFS drive. But i want to break those partitions and make one partition that is has read and write access in linux and windows how do i do that?
[05:02] <thoreauputic> ConfidentiaL: and what do you mean? How are they f**ed?
[05:02] <sands> hey I'm having an old computer in which everything is working except the mouse, under ubuntu breezy. How can I make that work..I used the live CD..That mouse works in win98 and does not work in winXP..When i use another mouse it works in win98 and winXp, but not in ubuntu..
[05:02] <ConfidentiaL> but it says it has dependencies to packages I already uninstalled... :S
[05:02] <Sn3f3ru> for ATI drivers, is it better to get them from ati.com or from universe?
[05:02] <LinuxHelp> well I suppose what I really should be asking, is does ubuntu support the SiS 760GX SiS 965L ?
[05:02] <mwe> thoreauputic: make room for a vfat partition
[05:02] <ConfidentiaL> thoreauputicbut it says it has dependencies to packages I already uninstalled... :S
[05:03] <missingo> how can i format all my drives on my hd, via a live cd? :-/
[05:03] <erUSUL> sands: have you tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:03] <mwe> thoreauputic: that for sands. sorry
[05:03] <thoreauputic> ConfidentiaL: are you using synaptic or apt ? or doing something else?
[05:03] <sands> no
[05:03] <erUSUL> missingo: use parted
[05:03] <ConfidentiaL> apt
[05:03] <naxxtor> would it be advisable to upgrade to dapper now?  or is it likely to break everything?
[05:03] <ConfidentiaL> thoreauputic: apt
[05:03] <missingo> parted?
[05:03] <bulio> Celeron Coppermine 667Mhz CPU and 128MB ram
[05:03] <bulio> that good for Xubuntu?
[05:04] <missingo> oh i see
[05:04] <stevenmadow> ok, so after the "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg" finishes, what do i do?
[05:04] <Xenguy> naxxtor: it is always safest to wait until the official launch date (YMMV)
[05:04] <missingo> i cant use parted cause i dont have permission to the disc
[05:04] <LinuxHelp> oh, I suppose that support is based on the CPU, so the ubuntu that I install just has to have a new enough kernel
[05:04] <LinuxHelp> thx guys
[05:04] <The_Op> i have a usb hard drive that is partitioned in two NTFS drives. But i want to break those partitions and make one partition that is has read and write access in linux and windows how do i do that?
[05:04] <thoreauputic> ConfidentiaL: I think you need to be more specific - apt should uninstall whatever you tell it to uninstall
[05:04] <erUSUL> missingo: use the root terminal of the livecd
[05:04] <mwe> missingo: you can't use it on a mounted disk and you need to use sudo
[05:04] <LinuxHelp> *CPU = kernel
[05:04] <stevenmadow> wooohooo, you guys rock
[05:05] <stevenmadow> thanks so much
[05:05] <naxxtor> Xenguy, true - but I want the new toys! :D
[05:05] <Ramnath> Hello
[05:05] <Xenguy> naxxtor: anything in particular you are missing?
[05:05] <stevenmadow> hmm, now it went back
[05:05] <Ramnath> What does the padlock in the right hand corner of a folder mean?
[05:05] <erUSUL> The_Op: erase the partitions and create a new one on the whole disc. use FAT32 (vfat) for filesystem type. you can use gparted
[05:05] <Ramnath> the red one
[05:05] <tarzeau> is this guy here? Anthony Mercatante <anthony.mercatante@laposte.net>
[05:05] <stevenmadow> a thing asking for my monitor res came up
[05:05] <naxxtor> Xenguy, well, i'd quite like the newer versions of some packages
[05:06] <stevenmadow> then it went back to the prompt
[05:06] <The_Op> okay what is gparted?
[05:06] <naxxtor> Xenguy, listen is kept back at 0.3 in breezy but current in dapper (so it seems)
[05:06] <mwe> Ramnath: I'm not sure what you mean, but maybe it means your user doesn't have access
[05:06] <sands> someone solve my mouse prob
[05:06] <Xenguy> naxxtor: yeah I know :-)  I've been on the other side tho, where Sid broke my toys and I wanted to go back to something that worked ;-)
[05:07] <xiaoyu> how can i change thunar ,to open a folder with one click
[05:07] <ConfidentiaL> thoreauputic: error 127 when I try to uninstall phpmyadmin...
[05:07] <naxxtor> Xenguy, heh - that's my worries!
[05:07] <Ramnath> ah i see
[05:07] <missingo> whats default root pwd for live cd?
[05:07] <mwe> Ramnath: so you need gksudo nautilus or something
[05:07] <thoreauputic> missingo: there isn't one
[05:08] <thoreauputic> missingo: just type sudo <command>
[05:08] <Xenguy> naxxtor: to (not) answer your question, I'm not sure how stable dapper is these days - may /join #ubuntu+1
[05:08] <erUSUL> The_Op: a front end to parted and other fs tools
[05:08] <Xenguy> maybe*
[05:08] <erUSUL> !info gparted
[05:08] <ubotu> gparted: (partition editor for GNOME), section gnome, is optional. Version: 0.0.8+cvs2005061901-0ubuntu4 (breezy), Packaged size: 236 kB, Installed size: 1260 kB
[05:08] <sands> hey I'm having an old computer in which everything is working except the mouse, under ubuntu breezy. How can I make that work..I used the live CD..That mouse works in win98 and does not work in winXP..When i use another mouse it works in win98 and winXp, but not in ubuntu..
[05:08] <The_Op> erUSUL thanks i just installed it using synaptic and i and using it now thanks!!!!!!
[05:08] <thoreauputic> missingo: or sudo -i  for a root shell
[05:08] <sands> shud i install any drivers???
[05:09] <naxxtor> Xenguy, i'm going to investigate a bit, see whether it's worth the risk or whether it'd be better to just wait
[05:09] <mwe> sands: you need to know what kind of mouse it is an adjust xorg.conf probably
[05:09] <erUSUL> The_Op: no problem
[05:09] <missingo> how can i delete all partions and blank the drive with parted?
[05:09] <Xenguy> naxxtor: that channel should know
[05:09] <mwe> missingo: use cfdisk for that
[05:10] <mwe> missingo: sudo cfdisk and delete all partitions
[05:10] <The_Op> erUSUL one thing  it is syaing the drive is locked and will not let me delete the ntfs partitions? what do i do?
[05:11] <erUSUL> The_Op: are you runnibg it with sudo?
[05:11] <erUSUL> running*
[05:11] <The_Op> oh no how do i do that?
[05:11] <naxxtor> Xenguy, I might install Flight 6 on a VM and see what happens.
[05:11] <mwe> naxxtor: it works good here. a few things are broken but i worked around it
[05:12] <erUSUL> The_Op: if you launch it throuh the menu it will promt for your password
[05:12] <naxxtor> mwe, personally i'm rather liking the idea of gnome 2.14 final :p
[05:12] <The_Op> wait i am running it using the sudo command and it is still saying that it is locked
[05:12] <naxxtor> mwe, i think it solves the strange transparency problems i've been having
[05:12] <erUSUL> The_Op: if that's the case, you are running it with sudo (gksudo to be exact)
[05:12] <mwe> naxxtor: yeah. I don't use gnome though
[05:13] <fliegenderfrosch> The_Op, is the partition unmounted?
[05:13] <burepe> What does "card" mean in this command?  sudo modprobe saa7134 card=3 tuner=2
[05:13] <naxxtor> mwe, I do :p for some reason i like it better than anything else for "real life"
[05:13] <The_Op> no it is not unmounted it is a usb hard drive and no i am not doing gksudo just sudo one sec i will try it with the gk
[05:14] <mwe> naxxtor: good for you ;)
[05:14] <LinuxHelp> Please excuse me, I'm very lost with the ubuntu website, but what is the latest stable distro (when was it released), and what is the absolute latest distro (when was it released)?
[05:14] <linuxgeekery> !tell linuxhelp about breezy
[05:14] <tristanmike> LinuxHelp, Breezy is the Stable and Dapper is the Pre-Release
[05:14] <LinuxHelp> I have the following names in front of me: breezy, dapper, hoary, warty
[05:14] <naxxtor> i'm a bit bummed that they pushed the release back by a month
[05:14] <linuxgeekery> !tell linuxhelp about dapper
[05:14] <stevenmadow> hey, ok, so it just came up as a big white window...for 10 seconds, then it went back to the prompt
[05:14] <stevenmadow> any ideas?
[05:14] <tristanmike> LinuxHelp, Hoary is the previous, and Warty was the first
[05:15] <The_Op> yeah acually i am not able to change any of the partitions on my computer not even the linux ones?
[05:15] <stevenmadow> its back to the white
[05:15] <stevenmadow> with a black bar on top
[05:15] <linuxgeekery> !tell linuxhelp about hoary
[05:15] <LinuxHelp> okay, I'll try dapper then
[05:15] <linuxgeekery> !tell linuxhelp about warty
[05:15] <mwe> The_Op: you can't edit mounted partitions
[05:15] <linuxgeekery> :P
[05:15] <The_Op> oh okay
[05:15] <The_Op> oops sorry
[05:16] <mwe> The_Op: you need to boot a live cd and unmount them
[05:16] <naxxtor> can you upgrade gnome in breezy?
[05:16] <dabaR> naxxtor: sure I can
[05:16] <Ramnath> (nautilus:11731): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[05:16] <Ramnath> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[05:17] <fliegenderfrosch> The_Op, it should be possible to unmount the partitions on your usb-drive
[05:17] <naxxtor> dabaR, so, from 2.12 to 2.14?/
[05:17] <Ramnath> what is that?
[05:17] <LinuxHelp> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/mini.iso  btw
[05:17] <The_Op> thanks guys i unmounted them and not i can edit them
[05:17] <mwe> The_Op: good ;)
[05:17] <missingo> mwe: i couldnt get cfdisk to delete the disk, it was still able to boot
[05:17] <missingo> even when it showed no partion
[05:17] <LinuxHelp> my link above, is it the latest?
[05:18] <jmoncayo> does somebody know if there is somekind of virtual dj for linux??
[05:18] <mwe> missingo: yeah. you should probably overwrite the boot sector then
[05:18] <tristanmike> jmoncayo, amarok on random :P
[05:18] <mwe> missingo: did you commit your changes in cfdisk?
[05:18] <xiaoyu> how can i change thunar ,to open a folder with one click
[05:18] <stevenmadow> i tried sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start then it said
[05:18] <erUSUL> jmoncayo: mixxx
[05:18] <stevenmadow> "Starting GNOME Display Manager...     [fail] "
[05:19] <mohanram> how can I get opengl tools? like opengl setting, I know there are some out but I don't know the name of them, Suse 10.1 comes with one I believe
[05:19] <jmoncayo> is any of those installed by defaukt?
[05:19] <missingo> how do i over ride and how do i commit? :/
[05:19] <missingo> *linuxnub*
[05:19] <jadaz87> what do you think the best internet browser for linux is?
[05:19] <DeBert> Is there a easy way to get Gtalk VOIP support in Dapper?
[05:20] <jmoncayo> which of those is more like virtual dj??
[05:20] <LinuxHelp> jadaz87: firefox
[05:20] <The_Op> one more question i finished that and made the hard drive but now it is showing the drive is blank but it only have half it space free what do i do to format that?
[05:21] <The_Op> so i can get all the space?
[05:21] <mwe> missingo: in cfdisk it's w I think, to write the partition table. the menu says
[05:21] <jadaz87> LinuxHelp ubuntu::firefox is garbage for some reason :-(
[05:21] <Smerity> does anyone know why after installing the fglrx ATI driver that OpenGL accelerated stuff wouldn't refresh the screen (thus making this weird smudge of objects, like when Windows used to crash and you'd have a mouse trail on the screen)
[05:21] <iceman> cool 2x pc's ... on win box .. and now a linux box ..
[05:21] <DeBert> i never understood why firefox is much slower in linux than in windows
[05:21] <LinuxHelp> jadaz87: dont tell me things like that, I havent even installed ubuntu yet 8)
[05:21] <stevenmadow> xerver-xorg
[05:22] <stevenmadow> woops, wrong window
[05:22] <jadaz87> DeBert i have no idea :-(
[05:22] <Jhair> DeBert: see https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/32561
[05:22] <jmoncayo> tristanmike, is that program like virtual dj from atomix?
[05:22] <jadaz87> what other internet browsers are good for linux other than w3m :-P?
[05:22] <tristanmike> !automatix
[05:22] <ubotu> I heard automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[05:22] <Jhair> DeBert: there you can find an explanation why firefox is that slow
[05:22] <DeBert> jadaz87, to bad there isn't a real alternative
[05:22] <jmoncayo> erUSUL, is that like vdj?
[05:23] <jadaz87> DEBert i am using opera it is pretty good
[05:23] <DeBert> Jhair: thx
[05:23] <jadaz87> Debert but i am used to using two browsers lol
[05:23] <GnarlyBob> opera was good 9 years ago
[05:23] <DeBert> jadaz87, yeah, but i'm kinda a OSS fanatic :)
[05:23] <erUSUL> jmoncayo: i have never used vdj nor mixxx. all i know is that they are both dj systems
[05:24] <DeBert> i love konqueror in KDE though
[05:24] <jmoncayo> erUSUL,
[05:24] <jmoncayo> oki thanks
[05:24] <xbox_sky> I used to love konqueror as well, but it's use as a html browser is petiful
[05:25] <xbox_sky> Opera is my favo browser , 2nd konq
[05:25] <mwe> then don't use it for that if you think so :)
[05:25] <GnarlyBob> xbox_sky: it's actually one of the more standards-compliant browsers out there :) I personally don't like it much either, but as far as a rendering engine, it's great
[05:25] <missingo> mwe: w dosent do anything :/
[05:25] <martin> Anyone using IceWM with Ubuntu?
[05:25] <xbox_sky> yeah I can understand that
[05:25] <missingo> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda = could this do it?
[05:26] <mwe> missingo: after you edit the partition table press captital W IIRC
[05:26] <GnarlyBob> I guess it's all about choice, but I've yet to see any reason not to use firefox
[05:26] <LinuxHelp> okay all, hold thumbs, I'm rebooting into what will hopefully be a working ubuntu install cd
[05:26] <xbox_sky> mwe, that's why i'm on opera, but it took me a while to finally decide kq /java is not a great thign
[05:26] <mwe> missingo: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=446 will overwrite the MBR
[05:26] <xbox_sky> thing*
[05:26] <jmoncayo> tristanmike, what do you say about amarok, have you used?
[05:26] <DeBert> amarok is the best musicplayer for unux, period ;)
[05:27] <GnarlyBob> DeBert: matter of opinion, of course :)
[05:27] <DeBert> it's the only app i mis now that i'm using xfce
[05:27] <linuxgeekery> banshee is good, too :)
[05:27] <tristanmike> jmoncayo, amarok in my opinion, is the best media player for any os, period!
[05:27] <xbox_sky> DeBert how's "unux" :D
[05:27] <GnarlyBob> yesyes, I like banshee
[05:27] <thoreauputic> DeBert: you can run amarok in xfce
[05:27] <DeBert> lol
[05:27] <jmoncayo> tristanmike, can i do dj stuff with it?
[05:27] <jadaz87> DeBert OSS? what is that?
[05:27] <DeBert> i know, but i like consistent desktop
[05:28] <pawsilver> I have just downloaded the latest version of Edubuntu.  It works fine until I run the update manager and after 3 hrs of downloads and installations my system crashes after entering my name and password.  Help??
[05:28] <tristanmike> jmoncayo, I don't know what you mean, I was just joking by putting it on random
[05:28] <thoreauputic> DeBert: well, that's up to you of course
[05:28] <DeBert> Opens Source Software
[05:28] <jmoncayo> ok
[05:28] <jadaz87> DeBert oh ok lol
[05:28] <DeBert> listen looks good to, but i couldn't find it in repos
[05:29] <jmoncayo> does somebody know a program like virtual dj or atomix mp3, to do some mix and dj stuff
[05:29] <missingo> in partions it says i have 1-4
[05:29] <missingo> #1-4
[05:29] <mwe> missingo: yes
[05:30] <missingo> that fine?
[05:30] <mwe> missingo: now delete them. then press W
[05:30] <missingo> writing...
[05:30] <speedie> man
[05:30] <dreamer> !nfs
[05:30] <ubotu> nfs is, like, totally, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSClientHowTo and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSServerHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[05:30] <mwe> missingo: did you delete them?
[05:30] <missingo> still says i got the partions after i do that
[05:30] <speedie> after uninstalling a dpkg and trying to reinstall it, it doesn't work right, some stuff doesn't get done
[05:30] <mwe> missingo: did you delete them?
[05:30] <GnarlyBob> I think nfs should be made illegal :p
[05:31] <speedie> but I found some dkpg info files, could those have something to do with it?
[05:31] <mwe> missingo: highlight and press d
[05:31] <missingo> kk
[05:31] <mwe> missingo: then W
[05:32] <speedie> SOB
[05:32] <missingo> says cannont delete a empty partion
[05:32] <missingo> but
[05:32] <mwe> missingo: huh?
[05:32] <AngryElf> is there a way to stop the disc icon from appearing on the desktop when a CD is in the drive?
[05:32] <speedie> I need someone's help, please.... I messed up my oracle install, so I tried to uninstall the dpkg
[05:32] <mwe> missingo: does it show partitions?
[05:32] <pawsilver> I have just downloaded the latest version of Edubuntu.  It works fine until I run the update manager and after 3 hrs of downloads and installations my system crashes after entering my name and password.  Help??
[05:32] <speedie> but now it won't reinstall properly, from dpkg
[05:32] <missingo> when i go into print, and print the table
[05:32] <speedie> it won't recreate the oracle user, or put the executable in /etc/init.d
[05:32] <mwe> missingo: don't highlight if it says free space
[05:32] <missingo> it says #1-4
[05:33] <missingo> start sector 0 for all of them
[05:33] <speedie> how do I get my system back to the way it was pre oracle install, completely, so that the install will work properly again
[05:33] <missingo> says free space
[05:33] <niklas> hey
[05:33] <mwe> missingo: when you first start cfdisk, does it show any partitions?
[05:33] <dabaR> speedie: have you tried sudo aptitude -f install?
[05:33] <missingo> no
[05:33] <mwe> missingo: or just 'free space'
[05:33] <mwe> missingo: good then ther are none
[05:33] <niklas> I have got a problem some idot set the filesystem of our server to non writeable the server uses debian and ext3
[05:33] <missingo> but it did that the first time, but still booted off the hd
[05:33] <duelboot_away> AngryElf, yes hold on and I'll send the way to do it
[05:33] <mwe> missingo: you deleted them
[05:34] <missingo> hmm okay
[05:34] <mwe> missingo: use the dd as well
[05:34] <mwe> missingo: sudo d it in repos
[05:34] <LinuxHelp> Okay, the following link : http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/mini.iso  is that the newest possible ubuntu netinstall ?
[05:34] <missingo> kk
[05:34] <missingo> ill rrestart it now and check partion is gone
[05:34] <mwe> missingo: sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda count=446
[05:34] <niklas> I have got a problem some idot set the filesystem of our server to non writeable the server uses debian and ext3
[05:35] <niklas> what can I do?
[05:35] <LinuxHelp> Please answer, caus I just tried it and its not new enough to support my hardware
[05:35] <missingo> w00t :P
[05:35] <mwe> missingo: so?
[05:35] <missingo> now to see if i can reinstall mac osx
[05:35] <roryy> LinuxHelp: dapper questions are best asked in #ubuntu+1
[05:35] <LinuxHelp> er okay
[05:35] <missingo> partions are gone
[05:35] <mwe> missingo: good
[05:35] <dabaR> niklas: how is it non-writeable? A setting in /etc/fstab?
[05:35] <speedie> dabaR: will that remove crap from uninstalled packages?
[05:35] <Dr3as> hmm, shouldnt 11mb/s wireless network be fast enough to stream mp3.. lol.. its lagging
[05:36] <niklas> Idon't know the idiot was not me but it causes mysql starts to fail and I can't create a file (as root)
[05:36] <mwe> Dr3as: it should be fast enough
[05:36] <dabaR> speedie: that will repair your package system, if it has breakage in packages. To remove files, you can do that manually.
[05:36] <missingo> thanks mate :)
[05:36] <speedie> dabaR: It says no packages installed upgraded or removed
[05:36] <mwe> Dr3as: something is broken if it's lagging
[05:36] <mwe> missingo: yw
[05:36] <duelboot_away> AngryElf, applications > system tools > config editor > apps > nautilus > desktop > uncheck volumes visible
[05:36] <dabaR> Dr3as: is there interference with cordless phones
[05:36] <Dr3as> its a smbfs mount
[05:36] <speedie> dabaR: I did remove them manually, but now when I try to reinstall, it won't recreate some of the files/etc
[05:36] <duelboot_away> AngryElf, realize none of your volumes will show up though
[05:37] <dabaR> speedie: then you are fine, no broken packages. What exactly would you like?
[05:37] <AngryElf> that's fine, thanx :)
[05:37] <Dr3as> have nice quality etc on the wifi
[05:37] <dabaR> speedie: what are you installing?
[05:37] <speedie> dabaR: when I run the install program, I would like it to do all of the things it did the first tim
[05:37] <speedie> dabaR: oracle xe
[05:37] <dabaR> speedie: is that through apt?
[05:37] <niklas> # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
[05:37] <niklas> #
[05:37] <niklas> # file system     mount point    type     options                  dump pass
[05:37] <niklas> /dev/hda3         /              ext3     defaults                 0    0
[05:37] <niklas> /dev/hda1         /boot          ext2     nosuid,nodev             0    2
[05:37] <niklas> /dev/hda2         none           swap     sw                       0    0
[05:37] <niklas> proc              /proc          proc     defaults                 0    0
[05:37] <niklas> my fstab
[05:37] <tristanmike> !paste
[05:37] <mwe> niklas: stop it
[05:37] <ubotu> Please don't flood the channel! For best results use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and tell people the URL
[05:37] <duelboot_away> !pastebin niklas
[05:37] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, duelboot_away
[05:37] <tristanmike> niklas, do NOT paste in here
[05:37] <mwe> niklas: you'll get kicked
[05:37] <speedie> dabaR: oracle xe creates a user called oracle, and installs the executable in /etc/init.d and it's not doing those things now
[05:37] <duelboot_away> !pastebin
[05:38] <ubotu> methinks pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[05:38] <LinuxHelp> I need an installer that supports the SiS 190 Ethernet card, does anybody know of one?
[05:38] <speedie> dabaR: dpkg
[05:38] <niklas> ok sry
[05:38] <dabaR> speedie: I am not sure. A clue is to read the dpkg manual, to find some option for complete reinstallation.
[05:38] <niklas> it's not to long maybe you can help though I should not past in here
[05:39] <niklas> !pastebin
[05:39] <ubotu> from memory, pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[05:39] <dabaR> niklas: What partition is read only, /?
[05:39] <niklas> the main partition i think
[05:39] <LinuxHelp> This is arguably the most responsive chat room in history, thx guys :D
[05:40] <niklas> so the ohne / is in
[05:40] <chaz> Happy Easter nerds
[05:40] <chaz> :)
[05:40] <crowbar> Is it possible on the forums to attach an image and display it in the post?  maybe using [img]  tags?
[05:40] <zntneo> is there a easy way to change what shell i am using in ubuntu
[05:41] <chaz> zntneo, what shell do you want
[05:41] <dabaR> niklas: it is mounted fine in fstab, it seems to me. Cause defaults for ext3 includes the rw option. I suppose you can try sudo fdisk -l, and post that to the pastebin.
[05:41] <Dr3as> hmm, when i used xmms it played nice untill it crashed:p
[05:41] <crowbar> chsh does it i believe zntneo
[05:41] <GnarlyBob> happy eatser
[05:41] <zntneo> zsh
[05:41] <erUSUL> zntneo: chsh
[05:41] <mwe> what's chsh?
[05:41] <erUSUL> zntneo: the old unix command
[05:41] <babo> permission to delete a folder would fall under 'execute' right ?
[05:42] <dabaR> the changeshell program.
[05:42] <mwe> oh
[05:42] <dabaR> It changes the passwd file, I think.
[05:42] <zntneo> were are the shells kept
[05:42] <niklas> ftsab -l doesn't show anything unnormal
[05:42] <dabaR> zntneo: which zsh
[05:42] <mwe> ftsab -l?
[05:42] <mwe> what's that supposed to do?
[05:43] <WoC> zntneo, legit shells are listed in /etc/shells
[05:43] <niklas> oh i mean fdisk -l
[05:43] <mwe> heh. ok
[05:43] <dabaR> babo: wrong. to remove a dir, you have to have write permissions to it, and the above directory, I believe.
[05:43] <dabaR> niklas: Can you paste it?
[05:43] <babo> dabaR: thanks ...
[05:44] <niklas> ok in !pastebin
[05:44] <niklas> !pastebin
[05:44] <ubotu> rumour has it, pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[05:44] <iceman> well, one windows system, one linux system ... awsome
[05:44] <dabaR> :-/
[05:44] <tempel> i need some help: i am not a linux pro. i installed ubuntu on a ppc mac to built a qt4 app. my problem is that i can't figure out which package i need so that i get the c++ std libs installed. i see in the Synaptic pkg mgr that "libstdc++6.4.0-dev" is installed, but that does not provide stdlib.h etc.
[05:44] <dabaR> tempel: We can't help you if you are not a linux pro. Sorry.
[05:44] <tempel> haha
[05:45] <simon> tempel: install build-essentials
[05:45] <dabaR> install build-essential
[05:45] <mwe> !b-e
[05:45] <ubotu> b-e is probably no make ?  you need build-essential or if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, you need to do a    sudo aptitude install build-essential.
[05:45] <simon> *essential
[05:45] <simon> uh
[05:45] <tempel> will try. thanks
[05:45] <simon> is there an s or no t:)
[05:45] <mwe> not
[05:45] <dabaR> no t
[05:45] <niklas> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12386
[05:45] <mwe> heh
[05:46] <zntneo> ok i looked at the /etc/shells and i can't find any of the shells
[05:46] <dabaR> niklas: what is the error you get?
[05:46] <apricot> is it secure to update from 5.10 gnome to kubuntu?
[05:46] <GnarlyBob> zntneo: do you have zsh installed?
[05:46] <zntneo> no how do i install it
[05:47] <dabaR> apricot: update from gnome to KDE? That is not an update. You can install kubuntu-desktop on a ubuntugnome system, and get kde.
[05:47] <iceman-lin> cool, finaly able to devote a pc to linux ///
[05:47] <mwe> zntneo: synaptic or sudo apt-get
[05:47] <apricot> is it secure?
[05:47] <dabaR> zntneo: "which zsh" if it is not found, install it.
[05:47] <niklas> if I save a textfile in a users home directory as root iot says (in german) Couldn't write file Filesystem is not writable
[05:47] <tempel> whoa, that helped. even though NO new packages were downloaded or installed, it seems. but now stdlib.h is there.
[05:47] <dabaR> apricot: you should be fine. Are you installing the kubuntu 5.10 too?
[05:47] <apricot> no.
[05:47] <zntneo> i know apt-get but is it called zsh for it
[05:48] <mwe> zntneo: learn to use apt-cache search too
[05:48] <apricot> what is the difference?
[05:49] <tempel> ahh, now qt4 starts building. i wonder what went wrong there. "build-essential" was also not listed in Synaptic under "developemt"m i believe
[05:50] <apricot> i have this stupid problem that my firestarter says device eth1 not ready. Help?
[05:51] <mwe> apricot: maybe you need to configure it to use the correct interface
[05:52] <apricot> ?
[05:52] <tempel> ok, thanks for helping. i am out again.
[05:52] <graveson> i would like to use the g-stremer firefox plugin instead of the xine pluging which seems to be the default
[05:52] <apricot> what you want to say?
[05:52] <iceman-lin> ok, how to apt-get mplayer
[05:52] <mwe> apricot: is eth1 one actually your interface name?
[05:53] <apricot> yes
[05:53] <valberg> anyone have experience with a ubuntu machine connected to a windows xp machine using a crossover cable and then copy files from the winxp to the ubuntu.. ?
[05:53] <mwe> apricot: in that case forget what I said
[05:53] <apricot> ok
[05:54] <valberg> iceman-lin, try running apt-cache search mplayer to see available packages, and then apt-get install them
[05:54] <Xenguy> bittorrent question: is bittornado a reasonably capable BT client? (I don't want to use azureus as it is java based)
[05:55] <mwe> Xenguy: well it can download your files
[05:55] <valberg> Xenguy, btdownloadcurses is a good one ;)
[05:55] <valberg> Xenguy, or btlaunchmany
[05:55] <valberg> btlaunchmanycurses that is
[05:55] <mephis1987> hello how can i make a new group ?
[05:55] <Xenguy> addgroup ?
[05:55] <Jhair> valberg: I have done that with the crossover cable but between a ubuntu and and a debian box
[05:56] <thoreauputic> sudo addgroup <groupname>
[05:56] <Xenguy> Jhair: gone
[05:56] <Jhair> Xenguy: yep
[05:57] <Xenguy> mwe: so can the default BT client ;-)
[05:57] <mephis1987> hello , can i make a dir belong to a specific group ?
[05:57] <mwe> what's groupadd then?
[05:57] <mephis1987> chgrp ?
[05:57] <thoreauputic> mephis1987: chgrp groupname foldername
[05:57] <shpr> i've problems with gdesklets bar
[05:58] <Xenguy> mwe: apt-cache show groupadd
[05:58] <mwe> Xenguy: man groupadd works. no need for apt-cache show
[05:58] <Xenguy> mwe: nm that
[05:58] <shpr> for example , when i activate a cpu-usage desklet the "gauge" doesn't move
[05:58] <thoreauputic> mwe: addgroup is an easier way to add groups than groupadd :)
[05:58] <Xenguy> mwe: yeah sorry, /me confused
[05:59] <iceman> anyone got link to sources list update link ... please
[05:59] <mwe> like useradd and adduser though that's the other way around. confusing names I think
[05:59] <linuxgeekery> iceman: ?
[06:00] <iceman-lin> ! sources
[06:00] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[06:00] <thoreauputic> mwe: like everything in *nix, there are many ways to do the same thing ;)
[06:00] <linuxgeekery> !easysource
[06:00] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[06:00] <niklas-komani> puh a reboot soleved my problem
[06:00] <mwe> yeah
[06:00] <mwe> I'll just stick with vigr
[06:01] <scifi> hi again, has anyone here actually managed to get their usb adsl modem working in ubuntu?
[06:01] <linuxgeekery> scifi, it depends on which
[06:01] <shpr> help
[06:01] <scifi> im using an origo, based on the conexant chipset
[06:02] <erUSUL> scifi: i have used an speedtouch without problems. now i use a wireless modem-router
[06:02] <linuxgeekery> scifi, I don't have expirence with those :(
[06:02] <iceman-lin> wonder if i should dread installing a secong video card, and configuring 2x video cards for 2x desktops
[06:03] <scifi> its just that ive found a site with a possible working driver for it, but dont know how to install it
[06:03] <mwe> maybe the site says how
[06:04] <shpr> help
[06:04] <scifi> mwe: this the site http://accessrunner.sourceforge.net/....it mentions about uploading firmware to the router and re-compiling the kernel...but it really looks too complicated for a linux beginner like me
[06:05] <linuxgeekery> bye everyone :)
[06:05] <iceman> !nvidia
[06:05] <ubotu> hmm... nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[06:06] <dad> dad2
[06:06] <scifi> tried to find someone to contact from that site but cant see any contact details
[06:06] <mwe> scifi: yeah. compiling the kernel is not for the faint of heart when you do it the first time
[06:06] <dad> anyone know how to get nautical charts read into GPSDrive?
[06:07] <erUSUL> scifi: are you sure that the modem does not work out of the box?
[06:07] <munzir> Hi, I put smb://adminstrator@mypc/myshare in konqueror but it asks me for a password though  the windows xp I am trying to connect to has no password, what's wrong please?
[06:08] <dad> anyone using GPSdrive?
[06:09] <mwe> munzir: maybe administrator has a password even if your user doesn't
[06:09] <diGital|rzk> Hello
[06:09] <scifi> erUSUL: i get a ppo network connection option that is disabled in network administration and in devices it sees a conexant device under "usb netcard", but i cant figure out how to get connected
[06:10] <diGital|rzk> I have a problem, how can I install wine on Ubuntu?
[06:10] <jadaz87> !wine
[06:10] <diGital|rzk> loo
[06:10] <diGital|rzk> !wine
[06:10] <mwe> diGital|rzk: sudo apt-get install wine
[06:11] <erUSUL> scifi: sudo apt-get install br2684ctl
[06:11] <mwe> diGital|rzk: enable universe though
[06:11] <diGital|rzk> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[06:11] <diGital|rzk> ee? :PPPP
[06:11] <diGital|rzk> Sorry, it is my first linux
[06:11] <scifi> erUSUL: really? what does that do?
[06:12] <diGital|rzk> I ask You for help... :P
[06:13] <mwe> diGital|rzk: maybe you should do that then
[06:13] <erUSUL> scifi: is a tool needed to set up adsl connections through usb modems is just for trying a few things
[06:13] <elbow> do you know any virtual machine under ubuntu
[06:13] <mwe> diGital|rzk: run then command it tells you to run
[06:13] <elbow> <
[06:13] <dad> anyone know where to get help  with gpsdrive?
[06:13] <diGital|rzk> So I am asking, how can I configure Ubuntu to get Wine work
[06:13] <elbow> ?
[06:13] <elbow> where i CAN INSTALL WINDOWS
[06:13] <elbow> ?
[06:13] <scifi> erUSUL: ok ty will try it
[06:13] <mwe> diGital|rzk: like I said enable universe
[06:13] <kosnick> does anybody know an OFFLINE BROWSER for ubuntu?
[06:13] <munzir> mwe: no I just logged on that pc physically with administrator as a username and no password and it let's me log.
[06:13] <mwe> diGital|rzk: then sudo apt-get install wine
[06:14] <mwe> munzir: dunno then
[06:14] <ompaul> elbow, ask in ##windows
[06:14] <JDahl> kosnick, what do you mean?   Doesn't firefox also work offline?
[06:14] <davidG> can anyone help with a problem with Xwindows on two screens please?
[06:14] <elbow> THANKS
[06:14] <mwe> munzir: it doesn't let you connect if you enter the blank password?
[06:14] <thoreauputic> elbow: check the wiki for qemu
[06:14] <munzir> elbow: qemu
[06:14] <kosnick> JDahl : i need a prog that can download a hole site instead of downloading each page and save it
[06:15] <PS> Hi, can anyone help me with a small (i hope) problem installing realplayer on Dapper?
[06:15] <thoreauputic> !qemu
[06:15] <ubotu> well, qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo or http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=200357&postcount=1
[06:15] <welshbyte> davidG: i think you'd have more luck if you just stated the problem
[06:15] <Otacon22> anyone know a pingerprint software for linux/ubuntu ??
[06:15] <munzir> mwe: i didn't try I will do now and set a password...
[06:15] <ally> can anyone help me change my resolution
[06:15] <Otacon22> ally, yes
[06:15] <davidG> the problem is a two screen xwindow setup which crashes when attempting to switch ttys with ctrl+alt+F1 etc
[06:15] <ally> ok
[06:15] <kosnick> JDahl : are you familiar with some prog like that?
[06:16] <mwe> !tell ally about fixres
[06:16] <JDahl> kosnick, no
[06:16] <kosnick> ok
[06:16] <PS> Anyone know why realplay might have deps on xlibs on my Dapper install, any how to get around it?
[06:16] <PS> apt-get install xlibs doesn't do it
[06:16] <ompaul> PS, ask in #ubuntu+1 that is the dapper channel
[06:16] <scifi> erUSUL: it says cant find package br2684ctl
[06:16] <Otacon22> if you wont to change resoluzion you have to go on system>preferencies>rexolution...
[06:16] <PS> presumably because xlibs is obsolete
[06:16] <erUSUL> !tell scifi about repos
[06:16] <elbow> IN QEMU CAN I INSTALL ALSO WIN XP
[06:17] <ompaul> !shout
[06:17] <ubotu> shout is, like, WE CAN READ LOWER CASE!
[06:17] <mwe> scifi: enable universe
[06:17] <ally> i dont think i installe dthe right ones
[06:17] <erUSUL> elbow: do not shout please
[06:17] <elbow> WHY NOT
[06:17] <mwe> qemu is so slow for me I gave up on it. even with kqemu
[06:17] <ompaul> because I will kick you
[06:17] <scifi> ok reading up on it now
[06:17] <Otacon22> if the reolution that you wont there isn't you can open the shall and reconfigurate xorg by: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:18] <ally> ok wow hold on
[06:18] <ompaul> I am having a nice day don't ruin it
[06:18] <kosnick> does anybody know of an offline browser?
[06:18] <ally> how do you open up the shell
[06:18] <mwe> kosnick: explain
[06:18] <elbow> AND WHAT IS BETTER AND MORE QUICKLY AS QEMU?
[06:18] <scifi> i'll have to print it out cus im on a different machine :p
[06:18] <mwe> elbow: I think that was it for today
[06:18] <ally> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
 ok wow hold on
[06:19] <elbow> SORRY
[06:19] <elbow> ?
[06:19] <kosnick> mwe: a prog that can download a hole site at once instead of downloading and saving every page
[06:19] <ompaul> ahh
[06:19] <ally> how do you opend up the shell?
[06:19] <WildTangent> i have a question about the linux nvidia drivers:  my 7800GTX has a VIVO (video-in video-out) port, so it can output HDTV and i can hook my PS2 or a VCR or what have you to it and watch it on screen. this function works in windows, but i havent tried it in linux yet, does the driver support it?
[06:19] <mwe> kosnick: oh. I don't know
[06:19] <thoreauputic> ompaul: he had it coming
[06:19] <Otacon22> ally: applications>accessors...>shell or terminal (i don't know which text there is beacuse i have te italian version....)
[06:19] <kosnick> mwe : ok
[06:19] <Otacon22> anyone know a pingerprint software for linux/ubuntu ??
[06:19] <erUSUL> ally: Apps>Accesories>terminal
[06:19] <ally> ok thank you
[06:19] <Roconda> anyone who can help me with my broken apt-get ?
[06:19] <erUSUL> !anyone
[06:19] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[06:20] <WildTangent> oh, im using the drivers from the dapper repos btw
[06:20] <mwe> Roconda: explain
[06:20] <ally> thank you
[06:20] <kosnick> offline browser anyone?
[06:20] <Roconda> I installed ubuntu but i got broken packages
[06:21] <mwe> Roconda: what does it say?
[06:21] <WildTangent> i have a question about the linux nvidia drivers:  my 7800GTX has a VIVO (video-in video-out) port, so it can output HDTV and i can hook my PS2 or a VCR or what have you to it and watch it on screen. this function works in windows, but i havent tried it in linux yet, does the driver support it?
[06:21] <Roconda> http://pastebin.com/662977
[06:21] <erUSUL> kosnick: httrack
[06:21] <erUSUL> kosnick: httrack wget
[06:21] <Roconda> mwe: http://pastebin.com/662977
[06:21] <zizie> how to make auto running "/etc/init.d/bind9 restart" every 30 min
[06:22] <mwe> Roconda: maybe you should do what it says
[06:22] <mwe> Roconda: sudo apt-get -f install
[06:22] <Roconda> wont work
[06:23] <mwe> Roconda: is your sources.list ok?
[06:23] <Roconda> I will check
[06:23] <mwe> Roconda: put it on pastebin.com maybe
[06:24] <idP> hi
[06:24] <idP> is there a utility that tells me about my hardware
[06:24] <idP> in detail
[06:24] <roryy> sudo lshw
[06:24] <mwe> Roconda: also did you sudo apt-get update before upgrade? and probably dist-upgrade should be used instead
[06:24] <erUSUL> idP: sudo lspci -xvvv 8^P
[06:25] <Roconda> mwe: I did
[06:25] <Roconda> but got the same errors
[06:25] <Roconda> where is my sources.list ?
[06:25] <zizie> how to make auto running "/etc/init.d/bind9 restart" every 30 min
[06:25] <mwe> Roconda: /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:25] <BBHoss> cron zizie
[06:25] <mwe> zizie: why'd you do that?
[06:26] <zizie> because my isp f*** me up :((
[06:26] <zizie> the isp dns need to be re scan :(
 idP: sudo lspci -xvvv 8^P
[06:26] <zizie> BBHoss : can you tell me the complete command ?
[06:26] <Roconda> mwe: http://pastebin.com/663295
[06:26] <mwe> zizie: well what BBHoss says, cron
[06:26] <BBHoss> hang on
[06:26] <idP> is this safe, if not.. how come users are allowed to to tell wrong info,
[06:27] <mwe> Roconda: comment line one and remove the us. part of your mirrors
[06:27] <scifi> mwe/erUSUL: before i go and enable universe, can i just mentiuon when i was installing ubuntu and it scanned my hardware for network devices i did find a possilbe "firewire network card", and because i didnt have a firewire card i said "NO" to installing it, maybe i shudda said yes, is it possible to rescan network devices?
[06:28] <ETronik> Hi all, whats the best way to install LAMP ? via Synaptic PAckage manager or manually ?
[06:28] <BBHoss> zizie: type nano -w crontab.cron
[06:28] <eugman> !lamp
[06:28] <ubotu> Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[06:28] <zizie> and then ?
 zizie: type nano -w crontab.cron <-- in everywhere ?
[06:29] <erUSUL> scifi: i do not know. i configured my dsl modem manually
[06:29] <eugman> ETronik there is a nice guide to install it in a few minutes via terminal.
[06:29] <scifi> erusul:ok will come back when ive sorted universe and installed the tool
[06:29] <ETronik> eugman: yeah thanks, the chan bot (I think) made the !lamp thingy for me :-)
[06:29] <Roconda> mwe: http://pastebin.com/663302 ?
[06:29] <Roconda> is that good ?
[06:30] <ompaul> idP, if you don't trust advice don't take it, or consult another form of help like man lspci and search for the -x option and the -v option
[06:30] <mwe> Roconda: I'd remove the us. part from the mirrors to make sure you get connected to a good mirror
[06:30] <zizie> BBHoss : i cant PV you ... can u join to new room ?
[06:30] <erUSUL> scifi: installing the tool is only a little step of the process
[06:30] <mwe> Roconda: ohter than that it's fine
[06:30] <ETronik> btw, whats the point of having both cron and anacron running on a desktop system ??
[06:31] <WildTangent> i have a question about the linux nvidia drivers:  my 7800GTX has a VIVO (video-in video-out) port, so it can output HDTV and i can hook my PS2 or a VCR or what have you to it and watch it on screen. this function works in windows, but i havent tried it in linux yet, does the driver support it?
[06:31] <Roconda> ahh ok
[06:31] <mwe> ETronik: anacron only runs at boot
[06:31] <Roconda> mwe: Done
[06:31] <mwe> ETronik: cron can run things every hour and so
[06:31] <zizie> BBHoss : can you join to  #helpmeplsss ?
[06:31] <mwe> Roconda: good now sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:31] <ETronik> mwe, but do Ihave to have both active ??
[06:32] <mwe> ETronik: anacron is not active
[06:32] <mwe> ETronik: it only runs at boot
[06:32] <ETronik> mwe, oh..
[06:32] <Roconda> mwe: got the same errors
[06:32] <mwe> ETronik: it makes sure stuff that was supposed to run when your pc was off gets run
[06:32] <mwe> Roconda: odd
[06:32] <zizie> someone with registered nick pls message BBHoss to join to #helpmeplsss
[06:33] <mwe> Roconda: oh
[06:33] <zizie> BBHoss : done
[06:33] <ETronik> mwe, do that automaticcaly share the "job" definitions?
[06:33] <mwe> Roconda: is it breezy or dapper?
[06:33] <ETronik> mwe, do they  automaticcaly share the "job" definitions?
[06:33] <mwe> ETronik: yes
[06:33] <Roconda> mwe: did apt-get -f dist-upgrade and works fine
[06:33] <kosnick> httrack is an offline browser (or website copier , same thing) . Just in case someone is interested.
[06:33] <BBHoss> im there zizie
[06:33] <Roconda> breezy
[06:33] <zizie> i cant see you
[06:33] <Roconda> mwe: breezy
[06:33] <mwe> Roconda: ok
[06:33] <mwe> Roconda: but how did you get oo.org 2?
[06:34] <zizie> BBHoss : i cant see you there
[06:34] <jadaz87> does anyone know what the requirements for mixxx is?
[06:34] <ETronik> mwe, great tahnks, I'll activate the anacron service
[06:34] <jadaz87> mixxx the linux dj program
[06:34] <jen140> hi ppl
[06:34] <mwe> ETronik: it only runs pending jobs at boot
[06:34] <jadaz87> hello jen
[06:34] <mwe> ETronik: then exits
[06:34] <Roconda> mwe: What do you mean ?
[06:34] <jen140> docan someone send me sources.list plz ?
[06:35] <ompaul> !easysource
[06:35] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[06:35] <SlCKB0Y> hey a little off-topic does anyone know where id find a compiz server/channel
[06:35] <ompaul> jen140, ^^^^
[06:35] <ETronik> mwe, You mean, it already (or by default)  runs pending jobs on boot, so no need to active the thing, right ?
[06:35] <Roconda> mwe: I dont got xmms and stuff
[06:35] <jen140> ty
[06:36] <mwe> ETronik: well if you removed it from the boot process you reactivate it
[06:36] <Roconda> mwe:  and amsn
[06:36] <ompaul> SlCKB0Y, your nick is nearly impossible to type and you think people ignore you #ubuntu+1
[06:36] <ompaul> SlCKB0Y, they may help
[06:36] <ETronik> mwe, no I haven't fiddled with it, so I presume is runs on boot (as you say)
[06:37] <mwe> ETronik: it does by default
[06:37] <SlCKB0Y> ompaul: thanks mate. i'll change my nick
[06:37] <ETronik> mwe, thats great thanks!
[06:37] <welshbyte> jadaz87: QT >= 3.1, libmad, libid3tag, libsndfile, vorbisfile and pkg-config... so says the documentation
[06:37] <Roconda> mwe: are you thre ?
[06:37] <martyn_> has any 1 ever manged to Google Talk to work on linux
[06:37] <Roconda> there *
[06:37] <mwe> Roconda: yeah
[06:38] <jen140> thise doesnt work :S
[06:38] <mwe> Roconda: what do you mean you don't got xmms and stuff
[06:38] <jen140> E: Couldn't find package xmms
[06:38] <Roconda> mwe: I dont got amsn, xmms in my source list
[06:38] <welshbyte> martyn_: it's just XMPP (jabber), so you can use gaim
[06:38] <jen140> already added deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted
[06:38] <mwe> Roconda: so?
[06:38] <Roconda> mwe: I got it before :s
[06:38] <mwe> Roconda: sudo apt-get install xmms
[06:39] <Roconda> Package xmms is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[06:39] <Roconda> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[06:39] <Roconda> is only available from another source
[06:39] <Roconda> enyc: Package xmms has no installation candidate
[06:39] <martyn_> welshbyte: i have tried the jabberstuff with gaim i cnat get it to wortk
[06:39] <ompaul> jen140, your in the wrong channel for those sources the channel #ubuntu+1 is the place for that
[06:39] <mwe> Roconda: huh? enable universe
[06:39] <Roconda> mwe: sec
[06:39] <mwe> Roconda: add the universe keyword to the end of your mirror in sources.list
[06:39] <jen140> k
[06:39] <jadaz87> welshbyte i have all those installed
[06:39] <mwe> Roconda: add multiverse as well while you're at it
[06:39] <jadaz87> welshbye and i get this when trying to run it
[06:40] <jadaz87> mixxx: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[06:40] <Apostle^> how do i make a link from thedesktop to /media
[06:40] <Apostle^> ?
[06:40] <jadaz87> welshbyte is that because i do not have gcc++ install?
[06:40] <jadaz87> installed?
[06:40] <scifi> mwe/erUSUL: during the multiverse activation procedure the instructions say tick certain repositories and edit them from universe to universe multiverse. but when i do that save settings, it tries to RELOAD them but cant, i assume because it cant get online to get the required files :P
[06:41] <Roconda> mwe: got it, thx for help
[06:41] <welshbyte> jadaz87: you probably just need to install a libstdc++ dev package
[06:41] <mwe> !info xmms
[06:41] <ubotu> xmms: (Versatile X audio player that looks like Winamp), section sound, is optional. Version: 1.2.10+cvs20050209-2ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 979 kB, Installed size: 7216 kB
[06:41] <Roconda> !info Direct Admin
[06:42] <Roconda> !anyone
[06:42] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[06:42] <erUSUL> scifi: yes is the chicken egg problem. i had a dial-up connection when i configured the seedtouch driver :(
[06:42] <martyn_> welshbyte: have you got the jabber working with google talk
[06:42] <scifi> omg :*(
[06:43] <welshbyte> martyn_: well, let me just try...
[06:43] <Roconda> !info webmin
[06:43] <ubotu> webmin: (web-based administration toolkit), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 1.230-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1154 kB, Installed size: 6368 kB
[06:43] <martyn_> welshbyte: i took the setting from the Google talk site but they never connect
[06:43] <scifi> erUSUL: is it possible for me to download the tool manually and then i cud grab it from the windows drive that i have mounted in ubuntu?
[06:43] <ompaul> Apostle^,  in a terminal >> cd Desktop ; ln -s /media/ . <<
[06:43] <erUSUL> scifi: you need to dwonload the tool i told you and libatm. you need this https://e.ututo.org.ar/utiles/cxacru-fw too to extract the firmware for your modem
[06:44] <Apostle^> ompaul: thanks
[06:45] <scifi> erUSUL: where do i get the tool from?
[06:45] <erUSUL> scifi: yes go to http://packages.ubuntu.com/ and search and dl the needed packages
[06:46] <Roconda> !info make
[06:46] <ubotu> make: (The GNU version of the "make" utility.), section devel, is optional. Version: 3.80-9 (breezy), Packaged size: 419 kB, Installed size: 1076 kB
[06:46] <erUSUL> scifi: the url i gave you is to extract the firmware from the windows driver
[06:46] <Roconda> !info gmake
[06:46] <welshbyte> martyn_: worksforme
[06:47] <martyn_> welshbyte: emmm can you pst your settings in paste bin for me so i can try and copy, pls
[06:47] <tonyyarusso> How to check a file's size from cli?
[06:47] <welshbyte> martyn_: http://www.google.com/support/talk/bin/answer.py?answer=24073  <-- follow every instruction on there and it works
[06:47] <scifi> erUSUL: which packages do i need from http://packages.ubuntu.com/?
[06:47] <martyn_> welshbyte: are yous glam
[06:48] <welshbyte> tonyyarusso: use the command du  (du -h <file> gives a good output)
[06:48] <martyn_> welshbyte: ill try be right back
[06:48] <welshbyte> martyn_: glam?
[06:48] <tonyyarusso> welshbyte: Oh, it's so simple...  Thanks.
[06:48] <SWAT> anyone know of a tool to convert midi to wav ?
[06:48] <erUSUL> scifi: libatm and br2684ctl
[06:48] <srinivas> my screen resolution was recognized as 1024*768 at 60Hz; my monitor and adapter both support higher frequencies and higher resolutions; what's the easiest way to make changes without diving into xorg.conf?
[06:48] <erUSUL> !fixres
[06:48] <ubotu> hmm... fixres is Please read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:48] <whiter> how do i upgrade to dapper with dist-upgrade?
[06:49] <iceman-lin> how do you find out how much harddrive space you have
[06:49] <jmoncayo> how can i istall the java plugin for firefox
[06:49] <Xenguy> whiter: /join ubuntu+1
[06:49] <obscurite> iceman-lin - 'df -k'
[06:50] <jmoncayo> df i think
[06:50] <whiter> df -h
[06:50] <obscurite> whiter is right ;) -h is better
[06:50] <wood1701> hello
[06:50] <svenne> hei noen norske folk her
[06:50] <scifi> erUSUL: this one libatm1 (2.4.1-17) ? then do i need to download the dsc, .tar and .diff files for itt?
[06:50] <wood1701> once I have install network-manager and network-manager-gnome how I open the tool?
[06:50] <martyn_> welshbyte: tried it still getting errors
[06:50] <simon> svenne: no, but something better, I'm from Sweden
[06:51] <jmoncayo> how can i istall the java plugin for firefox
[06:51] <welshbyte> martyn_: what errors?
[06:51] <iceman-lin> nope
[06:51] <svenne> oki ka du jelpe meg  f tak i frost wire
[06:51] <jadaz87> !java
[06:51] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[06:51] <tonyyarusso> Well, there is...
[06:51] <tonyyarusso> !no
[06:51] <ubotu> tonyyarusso: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:51] <tonyyarusso> !norske
[06:51] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, tonyyarusso
[06:51] <simon> svenne: finns det icke i apt-get?
[06:52] <tonyyarusso> Or there was!  I swear!
[06:52] <erUSUL> scifi: no only the deb for your dist.
[06:53] <martyn_> welshbyte: get an authentication failure
[06:53] <welshbyte> martyn_: maybe you got your password wrong then :)
[06:53] <martyn_> welshbyte: No its correct lol
[06:54] <simon> svenne: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=596299&postcount=2
[06:54] <martyn_> welshbyte: did u use port 5222
[06:54] <welshbyte> martyn_: yep
[06:56] <martyn_> welshbyte: its cool mate i have sorted it. in the uk its called googlemail.com now so have to change the server from gmail.com to googlemail.com
[06:56] <beta_m> how do i install qt-devel package, i can't find it in "Add Aplications"
[06:56] <thoreauputic> martyn_: why do the Brits always have to be different? *g*
[06:56] <thoreauputic> beta_m: erm - why do you need it?
[06:57] <thrice`> beta_m, sudo apt-cache search qt
[06:57] <ompaul> beta_m, Menu: system -administration -synaptic package manager
[06:57] <scifi> erUSUL: ok i have downloaded br2684ctl_20040226-1_i386.deb and libatm1_2.4.1-17_i386.deb, what do i do with them once ive moved them onto ubuntu partition
[06:57] <martyn_> thoreauputic: reson is Google are getting sued by a company in glasgow called Gmail lol
[06:57] <welshbyte> martyn_: ah that explains it (luckily i picked up a gmail account before they had to change the name)
[06:57] <thoreauputic> martyn_: ah
[06:57] <my_true_hero> I have a file that's archived in a bunch of files (*.rar, *.r00, *.r01, *.r02, etc), how do I extract it?
[06:57] <erUSUL> scifi: install them use dpkg -i <file>.deb for both
[06:57] <thrice`> my_true_hero, do you have rar installed?
[06:57] <thoreauputic> beta_m: in Ubuntu it would be something more like libqt*-dev
[06:58] <martyn_> thoreauputic: so now google cant use gmail and have to use google mail in the uk
[06:58] <beta_m> thoreauputic: i need to install another programme that must be first compiled
[06:58] <scifi> erUSUL: does it matter where i have the files placed on my system?
[06:58] <erUSUL> scifi: have you dl de tool i gave you the url https://e.ututo.org.ar/utiles/cxacru-fw
[06:58] <thoreauputic> martyn_: yah, got it :)
[06:58] <erUSUL> scifi: no it does not matter
[06:58] <thoreauputic> beta_m: what program?
[06:58] <beta_m> fuqt
[06:58] <martyn_> welshbyte: thing is i can put gmail at the end of my email and i still get mail ok lol
[06:58] <my_true_hero> thrice': is the package name simply "rar"? I tried doing "apt-cache search rar", but the list I got back was too huge to be useful
[06:58] <thoreauputic> beta_m: I beg your pardon?
[06:59] <beta_m> freenet utility for queued transfers
[06:59] <beta_m> fuqt
[06:59] <scifi> erusul: ok firmware tool is just a page of figures, so i just download the page as a text or?
[06:59] <beta_m> q;-)
[06:59] <welshbyte> martyn_: well they still own the domain even if they're not allowed to commercially use the name in the UK... silly state of affairs
[06:59] <mwe> martyn_: so where did you have to change server to googlemail.com?
[06:59] <welshbyte> mwe: in the server box in gaim's add account dialog
[07:00] <martyn_> welshbyte: have u manged to get gmail working ith pop3 acsess with evo
[07:00] <martyn_> mwe: yeah mate
[07:00] <welshbyte> martyn_: i've never tried.. i don't use my gmail account much, and i use thunderbird for mail
[07:00] <erUSUL> scifi: ?? download this file https://e.ututo.org.ar/utiles/cxacru-fw (it have to be a binary file)
[07:00] <martyn_> just got Word installed to with crossover office
[07:00] <mwe> I got gmail working with pop3 with thunderbird
[07:01] <martyn_> mwe; any chance u can post ur setting in paste bin for me . i tried before but no luck
[07:01] <welshbyte> i'd probably use it more if they offered imap access
[07:01] <mwe> martyn_: all right
[07:01] <svenne> jeg hadde noe som hette automattikeli fr men jeg vet ikke hvordan jeg fr tak i det vet du om noen sider
[07:01] <thoreauputic> svenne: erm - this is an English channel
[07:01] <martyn_> mwe_: thx
[07:01] <scifi> erUSUL:i click on the link nd it just opens a webpage full of binary data, but how do i save that to my HDD?
[07:02] <erUSUL> scifi: try going first to this page and clicking in the link https://www.ututo.org/www/modules/docs/docs.php?ID_docs=32
[07:03] <my_true_hero> thrice': "E: Package rar has no installation candidate"
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> !rar
[07:03] <ubotu> rar is, like, totally, a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[07:03] <roryy> the packages are unrar-free and unrar-nonfree
[07:03] <mwe> martyn_: pop.gmail.com port 995 and use ssl
[07:04] <mwe> martyn_: user name is the full email address
[07:04] <martyn_> cheers
[07:04] <mwe> martyn_: including @gmail.com
[07:04] <welshbyte> try changing gmail to googlemail :)
[07:04] <despedes> predius_, dude?
[07:05] <mwe> welshbyte: me?
[07:05] <welshbyte> mwe: no, sorry, i meant martyn_
[07:05] <my_true_hero> ah. thanks for the info :)
[07:05] <svenne> er det noen som kann norsk her
[07:05] <welshbyte> a moose once bit my sister...
[07:05] <martyn_> i will lol
[07:05] <oboro> hello, i have /home on a different partition, and i installed the dapper flight 6 about a week ago, now i wanna revert to breezy, can i format and install and keep my /home?
[07:05] <simon> svenne: menade du automatix?
[07:05] <lnostdal> sveni, try #ubuntu-no
[07:06] <svenne> ja
[07:06] <simon> svenne: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=114251
[07:06] <PuMpErNiCkEl> oboro: yeah... so long as you don't reformat /home, you'll keep it
[07:06] <Dr_Willis> oboro,  i  normally keep /home on its own partition - that makes it easier..
[07:06] <mwe> !automatix
[07:06] <ubotu> automatix is, like, totally, unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[07:06] <PuMpErNiCkEl> oboro: Some config files may be messed up a bit, but you'll keep your data.
[07:06] <oboro> "/home" is in it's own partition
[07:07] <oboro> i was just wondering about the "downgrade"
[07:07] <mwe> oboro: then leave it alone and it will stay
[07:07] <oboro> won't it mess some of the apps?
[07:07] <scifi> erUSUL: i will have to come back to u on this, dinner, thx for help so far
[07:07] <mwe> oboro: leaving /home?
[07:07] <Dr_Willis> oboro,  thers always some risk.
[07:07] <mwe> oboro: it wont
[07:07] <oboro> risk? of what, dr_willis?
[07:08] <Dr_Willis> oboro,  ive found that ive needed to remove the .gnome* and .kde* dirs to get them reset back to defaults
[07:08] <oboro> i mean, i've seen that there are some apps dirs in /home
[07:08] <Dr_Willis> oboro,  ither then that - ive had no issues
[07:08] <mwe> oboro: that's good
[07:08] <Dr_Willis> all the /home stuiff is just configs
[07:08] <oboro> ah ok
[07:08] <mwe> oboro: that means you keep your personal settings
[07:08] <oboro> then what's dr_willis is talking about?
[07:09] <mwe> oboro: there is absolutely no risk in keeping /home
[07:09] <jmoncayo> what are therse for?? 32770/tcp open  sometimes-rpc3
[07:09] <jmoncayo> 32771/tcp open  sometimes-rpc5
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> yea - seems lately that GNOME and KDE both have been getting mad at me when  their configs get messed up
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> but its a trivial fix.
[07:09] <obscurite> without setting ClientAliveInterval in /etc/ssh/sshd_config, how long do your ssh sessions last before timing out? It seemed like a minute or two to me.
[07:09] <oboro> how do i fix it dr_willis?
[07:09] <svenne> hvordan instalerer jeg automatix
[07:09] <svenne> plis help me
[07:09] <mwe> svenne: don't
[07:09] <mwe> !tell svenne about automatix
[07:10] <Dr_Willis> oboro,  delete the .gnome* and .gconf* dirs as i said earlier. If theres an issue.
[07:10] <mwe> or rename them
[07:10] <jmoncayo> 32771/tcp open  sometimes-rpc5
[07:10] <oboro> how can i delete them while running gnome??
[07:11] <mwe> oboro: log out to the terminal first
[07:11] <mwe> oboro: log out of gnome and press ctrl-alt-f1 and login and delete them
[07:11] <oboro> rm .gnome*?
[07:11] <Dr_Willis> Logical eh?
[07:11] <Dr_Willis> :P
[07:11] <mwe> oboro: rm -rf
[07:11] <mwe> oboro: or just rename it
[07:11] <Dr_Willis> actually ya can delete the dirs with the gnome file managers.
[07:12] <thrice`> I would just move to backup
[07:12] <mwe> oboro: mv
[07:12] <thrice`> mv .gnome .gnome-backup
[07:12] <mwe> .gnome2
[07:12] <Dr_Willis> and theres several .gnome* dirs and a few .gconf* dirs
[07:12] <mwe> isn't it
[07:12] <thrice`> er...yeah
[07:12] <crayzee> I need the util fnt2bdf for wine (used to be in wine-utils) where is it now? Or am I missing a repo? Coz I have no wine-utils listed
 actually ya can delete the dirs with the gnome file managers. how?
[07:13] <svenne> hvordan install automatix
[07:13] <Dr_Willis> oboro,  select them and hit delete. :P how else
[07:13] <svenne> ?????????
[07:13] <oboro> with gnome running?
[07:13] <ompaul> !automatix
[07:13] <ubotu> somebody said automatix was unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[07:14] <Dr_Willis> egads - DONT install automatix! lol..
[07:14] <oboro> will it let me?
[07:14] <thrice`> no, you should not remove them while running gnome
[07:14] <Dr_Willis> oboro,  thats what we are talking about.. so yes.. try it. :P
[07:14] <oboro> ok.
[07:14] <oboro> thanx
[07:14] <thrice`> log out to a terminal
[07:14] <Dr_Willis> oboro,  or do it from the shell.. i could of deleted the stuff 10 times in the time it took me to type this line. :P
[07:14] <thrice`> and then mv .gnome2 .gnome.backup, gconf...
[07:14] <Dr_Willis> this is needed ONLY IF theres a problem .
[07:14] <gregj> http://pastebin.com/663360
[07:14] <Dr_Willis> so you may not even have to mess with it
[07:15] <gregj> I get this with ubuntu default kernel
[07:15] <oboro> ok thanx
[07:15] <gregj> any kernel responsible folk here
[07:15] <gregj> ?
[07:16] <simon> svenne: join the #ubuntu-no channel
[07:17] <MonsieurBon> hello
[07:17] <simon> hi
[07:18] <MonsieurBon> I wanted to start a Python program. If I execute python filename.py it sais: ImportError: No module named wx. What can I do about this?
[07:18] <Kr0ntab> mornin folks
[07:18] <martyn_> mwe_: lol well that did not wrok lol
[07:18] <immolo> MonsieurBon, you need the wxGTK package
[07:19] <erUSUL> MonsieurBon: install the module
[07:19] <erUSUL> MonsieurBon: install the module python-wx*
[07:19] <gregj> where should I report that oops to ?
[07:19] <ompaul> python-wxgtk2.4  or 2.6 depending on your GTK
[07:19] <iceman-lin> anyone knw how to unlock a set of raid harddrives that are locked ..
[07:20] <ompaul> gregj, launchpad.net is the ubuntu "bug place"
[07:20] <MonsieurBon> erUSUL, i installed python-wxgtk2.6
[07:20] <ompaul> python-wxgtk2.6 depending on your GTK
[07:20] <MonsieurBon> ompaul, what is my GTK?
[07:21] <boydubai> [C] hris, i'm trying to install yahoo messenger and i've already downloaded the .deb file from yahoo site.
[07:21] <immolo> more then likely 2.6
[07:21] <ompaul> MonsieurBon, the gtk you have installed, try it now and see if it works
[07:21] <StarQuake> is it possible to install the newest nvidia driver but still have ndiswrapper?
[07:22] <saik0> !tell boydubai about deb
[07:22] <MonsieurBon> ompaul, Speicherzugriffsfehler, thats Segmentation Fault, if I'm not mistaken....
[07:22] <StarQuake> so without uninstalling restricted-modules
[07:22] <scorchsaber> Hey, is there a way to install a newer version of firefox without resorting to using an RPM from the site and alien?
[07:23] <saik0> !tell boydubai about info gaim
[07:23] <scorchsaber> maybe an update button?
[07:23] <immolo> scorchsaber, compile you're own
[07:23] <ompaul> MonsieurBon, ooch, sudo apt-get remove --purge python-wxgtk2.6 and then install the 2.4 version buit this is guess work
[07:23] <ompaul> !ff15
[07:23] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ompaul
[07:23] <ompaul> !ff1.5
[07:23] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[07:23] <Okita> Why does starting screen make the backspace key not work, and what's the best way to fix it?
[07:23] <scorchsaber> immolo: I suppose that that won't register in synaptic?
[07:24] <immolo> scorchsaber, no it wouldn't
[07:24] <nonick007> is xorg bug fixed ?
[07:24] <scorchsaber> immolo: So wouldn't I be better off with alien and dpkg?
[07:25] <ompaul> scorchsaber, did you see this>>>ubotu You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion<<<
[07:25] <thoreauputic> scorchsaber: follow the wiki - it does it the right way
[07:25] <immolo> scorchsaber, I like to compile myself but if you haven't done it much use the wiki
[07:25] <thoreauputic> scorchsaber: including using dpkg-divert etc
[07:25] <ompaul> StarQuake, have you looked at the wiki for nvidia?
[07:25] <scorchsaber> ompaul: yes
[07:26] <StarQuake> ompaul, no
[07:26] <ompaul> !tell StarQuake about nividia
[07:26] <Okita> nm, I just added "stty erase ^H" to my /etc/profile.  Seems kind of stupid I'd have to do that, but there we go
[07:26] <ompaul> !tell StarQuake about nvidia
[07:26] <boydubai> [C] hris, i followed the instruction but it says dpkg: error processing ymessenger_1.0.4_1_i386.deb (--install):
[07:26] <boydubai>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[07:27] <crayzee> fnt2bdf is on http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/cgi-bin//search_contents.pl?version=hoary&arch=i386&case=insensitive&word=wine-utils&searchmode=filelist but isnt in breezy. Is it safe to install the hoary version?
[07:27] <anymo> boydubai, why don't you use gaim, instead real yahoo messenger?
[07:27] <saik0> boydubai, dpkg - i /full/path/to/foo.deb
[07:27] <boydubai> gaim... i can't be invisible in gaim
[07:28] <thoreauputic> boydubai: and prefix the command with sudo
[07:28] <boydubai> thanks
[07:28] <ally> how do i get to the shell
[07:28] <MonsieurBon> ompaul, now I get an attribute error....
[07:29] <thoreauputic> ally: Applications-Accessories-Terminal
[07:29] <scorchsaber> speaking of gaim, why does it always disconnect after I'm absent, and often give me false <user has closed window> messages?
[07:29] <ompaul> crayzee, I would not, you don't know what is expected to happen, get yourself the source and >>/msg ubotu compile<< but it might be easier to say what the job is that it does
[07:29] <ally> thankx
[07:29] <duelboot_away> boydubai, kopete is a great im program...and you can be invisible (no you don't have to install kubuntu)
[07:29] <crayzee> ompaul, it converts windows .fon fonts to bdf, which can then be converted to unix fonts
[07:30] <ompaul> MonsieurBon, what (a) version of ubuntu are you using (b) what package are you trying use?
[07:30] <thrice`> duelboot_away, no, but you need most of kubuntu libs
[07:30] <MonsieurBon> ompaul, Breezy, it's an assistant program for an online game...
[07:30] <duelboot_away> thrice`, it'll install them for you though...
[07:31] <thrice`> duelboot_away, and what fun is running qt* on gnome
[07:31] <k31th> do i need to be in a certain group to view windows mounts?
[07:31] <thoreauputic> !mountwindows
[07:31] <ubotu> Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter to make your windows or mac partitions mount automatically.  If you wish to set it up yourself by hand, read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[07:31] <duelboot_away> thrice`, I'm running it now, no problems...haven't found anything better with multiple IM services and capabilities...know something better?
[07:31] <ompaul> MonsieurBon, I can't debug it for two reasons, one I am not a programmer, however I can say that your lack of information means that if anyone else has the same issue they can't tell you because they don't know what the program is
[07:32] <scifi> erUSUL: u here m8? that page doesnt have a direct url link to the download page...how are u saving it? right-click, save as type?
[07:32] <jadaz87> hello can someone direct me to a list of the wireless driver packages that ubuntu has?
[07:32] <MonsieurBon> ompaul, I know, however, it's not so important. Would have been nice to run the program, but I can do without. Thx anyway
[07:33] <thoreauputic> scifi: do you have an allergy to full words?
[07:33] <thrice`> duelboot_away, nope; i prefer gaim myself, mostly for it's gtk build, plus it's away messages (which suck in kopete)
[07:33] <XoNiK> como os rallais
[07:33] <XoNiK> x"D
[07:33] <ompaul> crayzee, I would not use it, have a look at apt-cache search fon (huge return of data, might be worth adding grep -v ttf) to that and apt-cache search bdf, they may give you a clue
[07:33] <ally> umm after i run the gui for so long it goes back into the setup thing
[07:33] <duelboot_away> thrice`, okay...it's a preference thing...btw, have you tried to get tapioca to work?
[07:34] <ally> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
 ok wow hold on
[07:34] <thrice`> duelboot_away, haven't even heard of tapioca...so no :P
[07:34] <xbox_sky> what's the command for tar ignore 0 file sectors?
[07:34] <duelboot_away> thrice`, it works with google talk (of course Kopete does as well :)
[07:34] <jadaz87> also i was wondering if anyone knows of a virtual desktop switch that is on the desktop instead of the appbar
[07:34] <StarQuake> ompaul, it doesn't quite answer how to you use restricted-modules next to the newer nvidia driver
[07:34] <ompaul> ally can you gather all your thoughts and put them on one line so that you don't spam the channel, thanks
[07:35] <erUSUL> scifi: just clicking in in the link in firefox
[07:35] <scifi> erUSUL:im using ie at the mo, i will try firefox
[07:35] <iceman-lin> wild having 2x pc's in here ...
[07:35] <erUSUL> scifi: i have investigated a little and discovered that the breezy kernel does not support your modem out of the box
[07:35] <ompaul> StarQuake, my tak on it is that modules are modules are modules and they load as required in these post devfs days
[07:36] <roryy> apt-get install internet-exploder *muhahaha*
[07:36] <StarQuake> ompaul, i don't quite understand
[07:36] <iceman-lin> watch the ln\anguage .. please
[07:36] <xbox_sky> any experienced tar users?
[07:36] <scifi> erUSUL: so im basically fucked? :~(
[07:36] <thoreauputic> sudo aptitude remove --purge internet-exploiter
[07:36] <ompaul> StarQuake, I don't see why your question occurs
[07:37] <iceman-lin> dang that winblows foul language in here today
[07:37] <ompaul> scifi, don't use that language here thanks
[07:37] <thoreauputic> scifi: language
[07:37] <ompaul> !winmodem
[07:37] <ubotu> I guess winmodem is See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto for instructions on setting up your modem (including winmodems). Additional info can be found at http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/
[07:37] <StarQuake> ompaul, restricted modules has nvidia and if i also install nvidia from nvidia binary it fails on reboot
[07:37] <immolo> has anyone got an idea on how to disable the actupoint (the little red ball on laptops) ?
[07:37] <scifi> apologies
[07:37] <xbox_sky> nice...
[07:38] <xbox_sky> scifi at least you didn't get a temp ban.. -_-
[07:38] <erUSUL> yu need to recompile your kernel or maybe if you are brave upgrade to dapper....
[07:38] <iceman-lin> any one experienced in dual display .. using 2x video cards ...
[07:39] <jackwhite> after so long it will revert to the setup process
[07:39] <jackwhite> any help?
[07:40] <scifi> erUSUL: wud u be willing to talk me thru recompliling?
[07:40] <brian__> i just installed linux and its running slow, is their a way to speed it up?
[07:40] <xbox_sky> ........with?
[07:40] <scifi> recompiling*
[07:40] <ompaul> StarQuake, rather than the question you had that one is most likely this>> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg<< and choose the "new module" then restart X, (>>/etc/init.d/gdm stop ; /etc/init.d/start<<if that fails then you need to choose vesa as the card type while you explore the interweb but it is my guess you did not follow the instructions on that wiki page which is how you do nvidia on ubuntu
[07:40] <suyog> how do i get dpkg to install all dependencies as well?
[07:40] <xbox_sky> brian, maybe something is wrong, takes only like 15 seconds for me too boot it up or less
[07:40] <bobbyd> scifi, modems are a pain under linux, best option is an external one if anyone you know has one lying around...
[07:40] <bobbyd> scifi, (a lot of) (win)modems
[07:41] <roryy> suyog: use apt-get instead
[07:41] <erUSUL> bobbyd: is an adsl modem
[07:41] <jackwhite> after so long of using the gui it will revert back to the setup process
[07:41] <xbox_sky> suyog - dpgk = .deb
[07:41] <StarQuake> ompaul, ifaik the wiki page describes how to install nvidia glx the apt-get way
[07:41] <scifi> bobbyd: not winmodem, external usb modem
[07:41] <jadaz87> i was wondering if anyone knows of a virtual desktop switch that is on the desktop instead of the appbar like the one in the lower bottom hand corner
[07:41] <bpuccio> brian__: firs,t define slow, is it slow to boot, slow to lauch a specific app, does th emouse move slow? second, "i install linux" doesn't explain what you have installed, did you do a default Ubuntu install? third, are you running a Pentium 266MHz CPU? I'd expect it to not be blazing fast
[07:41] <spoon> does anyone know if this will work in fstab "/dev/sb*1 	/mnt/memstick	vfat	rw,user,noauto,sync 0	0"
[07:41] <ompaul> StarQuake, and that is how it works for all, what part of that doi you have a problem with ?
[07:42] <thoreauputic> scifi: if you have an ethernet jack, use it - USB modems are notoriously difficult in Linux
[07:42] <suyog> does apt-get work without internet connection? i mean, if i already have the required files in my local hard disk.
[07:42] <ompaul> StarQuake, is it getting the drivers under that method or something else?
[07:42] <thoreauputic> scifi: the manufacturers don't help
[07:42] <jackwhite> like just now it went back to installing packages
[07:42] <jadaz87> suyog yes it will work
[07:42] <bobbyd> erUSUL, scifi ok, sorry :)
[07:42] <StarQuake> ompaul, i want to use version 8178
[07:43] <brian__> bpuccio, im running a 3200+ p4 a gig of ram and 2 gb swap file, its slow to boot and and in normal use, and i did standard install
[07:43] <scifi> thoreauputic: yeh i thought so, no ethernet port tho :~(
[07:43] <jackwhite> oh well mabye later
[07:43] <thoreauputic> scifi: best to get a decent router / modem with some ethernet connections if you can
[07:44] <suyog> jadaz87: what ineed i change in the apt list to make apt look into a certain folder for the deb files?
[07:44] <erUSUL> scifi: is better to try a vanilla kernel as the driver for the modem has been included in the recent kernels
[07:44] <scifi> thoreauputic: well the adslmodem/router has  an ethernet port, what i mena is, my pc doesnt have an ethernet port
[07:44] <thoreauputic> scifi: that's very unusual these days
[07:45] <ompaul> StarQuake, well then if the instructions are not on the nvidia site here: http://www.nvidia.com/page/search.html?keywords=linux+8178 I can offer no extra advice to you, but someone may have put a page on the interweb for that but I don't know
[07:45] <bpuccio> brian__: ok, something is definitely wrong as my machine is 1.5GHz and I have no problems, I boot in about 40 seconds. First suggestion, assuming you have an IDE harddrive, is DMA on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA
[07:45] <scifi> erUSUL: vanilla kernel?
[07:45] <thoreauputic> scifi: get a NIC card for your PC
[07:45] <erUSUL> scifi: but there is problem you do not have an internet connection in linux so you can not dl the compiler packages
[07:45] <erUSUL> scifi: vanila the ones from www.kernel.org
[07:45] <spoon> anyone know if ya can put /dev/sb*1 in fstab to mount a usb mem stick that is a different /dev/ each time ya boot or plug the memstick back in.
[07:46] <thoreauputic> spoon: that shouldn't be necessary
[07:46] <xbox_sky> luke... I am your..
[07:46] <thoreauputic> spoon: are you using gnome?
[07:46] <scifi> erUSUL: i cud download the packages on this machine send over to ntfs partition on other machine and pick them up in ubuntu from there
[07:46] <luke> does anyone know anythi8ng about tracker in relation to bittorent in ubuntu
[07:46] <luke> ?
[07:46] <bpuccio> brian__: also, when you boot up, does the system seem to hang at any one specific point (such as when bringing up the networking, etc)?
[07:46] <simon> luke: do you want to run a tracker?
[07:47] <despedes> i was reading an XGL tutorial and they talk about this: Open sessions>prereferences>sessions, i dont know whats that. can somebody help plz?
[07:47] <jadaz87> suyog just do apt-get install <packagenamewithoutthe.debextension)
[07:47] <luke> i keep getting error message saying problem connecting to tracker
[07:47] <spoon> thoreauputic yes gnome. It shows up in Computer, but it doesn't mount it. I can mount it manualy and noticed it was a different /dev/ each time.
[07:47] <jadaz87> !xgl
[07:47] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[07:47] <luke> timeout excceedded
[07:47] <jadaz87> despedes are you using dapper?
[07:47] <simon> luke: make sure you have opened your ports
[07:47] <thoreauputic> spoon: is gnome-volume-manager running?
[07:47] <luke> how?
[07:48] <simon> do you have a router/firewall?
[07:48] <luke> no
[07:48] <spoon> thoreauputic I'm not sure.
[07:48] <thoreauputic> spoon: ps aux | grep gnome-volume-manager   should tell you
[07:48] <simon> luke: then they should be open :)
[07:48] <simon> luke: what BT client ar you using?
[07:48] <luke> well no software fire wall software anyway
[07:48] <simon> luke: i ment hardware
[07:48] <thoreauputic> spoon: or just run it - gnome-volme-manager &
[07:48] <despedes> jadaz87, yes
[07:48] <erUSUL> scifi: better use the install cdrom. have you got enabled the install cdrom in synaptic?
[07:49] <luke> bittorrent
[07:49] <luke> comes with ubuntu
[07:49] <spoon> yep already running
[07:49] <thoreauputic> erm * gnome-volume-manager
[07:49] <crayzee> To get a windows FNT file to work, can I just copy into /usr/share/fonts/
[07:49] <crayzee>  or do I need to make a directory under that?
[07:49] <scifi> erUSUL: er yes i think its ticked
[07:49] <bpuccio> brian__: another option you might want to look into is bootchart https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootCharting if you get a chart of your machine's boot process, it can help determine where the bottlenecks are
[07:49] <thoreauputic> spoon: then it should auto-mount
[07:49] <thoreauputic> spoon: are you looking in /media  ?
[07:49] <simon> luke: if you have a hardware firewall or router make sure you open/forward the same port you have in your BT client
[07:49] <inc|freaky> is any1 here using a netgear wlan router? im having problems with ssh - each time im connected to a server, and dont send or recieve anything for a while, the netgear router seems to drop the connection. is there anything i can do?
[07:49] <erUSUL> scifi: try sudo apt-get install build-essential
[07:49] <luke> i have a linksys wag54G router....would that have a firewall?
[07:50] <erUSUL> !b-e
[07:50] <ubotu> well, b-e is no make ?  you need build-essential or if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, you need to do a    sudo aptitude install build-essential.
[07:50] <simon> inc|freaky: it is problably your ISP
[07:50] <scifi> erUSUL with the install cd in drive?
[07:50] <spoon> Thoreauputic it doesn't mount for some reason. :\ guess its just a bug?
[07:50] <reiki> if the Turboprint drivers, as I have them....curently configured using LPR because cups was kinda broken a couple days ago... if Turboprint gives me access to all printer controls INCLUDING the ability to see ink levels... then I should just leave it alone?
[07:50] <simon> luke: you have to login on your router and forward a port
[07:50] <iceman-lin> luke yes .. most likly has a firewall
[07:50] <thoreauputic> spoon: unlikely - is this breezy?
[07:50] <bpuccio> brian__: I don't have any other suggestions, you can hang around here a tiny bit more and maybe someone else will have an idea, or you can ask the mailing list https://lists.ubuntu.com/ (users is a high volume list)
[07:50] <AngryElf> does anyone know of any frontends for transcode?
[07:50] <luke> 192.168.1.1??
[07:50] <spoon> thoreauputic yes breezy
[07:50] <simon> luke: sounds right
[07:50] <itsmine> why wine often freeze after login a period?thx
[07:50] <brian__> bpuccio, tis an sata harddrive with 16mb cache
[07:51] <luke> thansks just trying...
[07:51] <thoreauputic> spoon: you can mount with pmount /dev/sda1 or whatever dmesg says it is
[07:51] <thoreauputic> spoon: run dmesg | tail to see after you plug it in
[07:51] <erUSUL> scifi: synaptic will ask for it if it can install the package from it
[07:51] <linuxgeekery> sh kismet_log_ext.sh -wp --vb
[07:51] <linuxgeekery> oops wrong window :P
[07:51] <scifi> erUSUL: ok just a minute
[07:52] <spoon> thoreauputic I have no problem mounting it manualy I said. the problem is it keeps chaning what /dev/sd* it is
[07:52] <boydubai> guys, is it ok that wireless network interface is eth0? and the type of interface is ethernet? i'm using intel pro/wireless 2100
[07:52] <spoon> and doesn't mount automaitcaly
[07:52] <boydubai> and it keeps on disconnecting.
[07:52] <thoreauputic> spoon: it will change if youhave other stuff plugged in
[07:52] <jadaz87> boydubai are you on dapper?
[07:52] <svenne> how to innstall automatics
[07:52] <boydubai> breezy
[07:52] <linuxgeekery> boydubai, can you pastebin "iwconfig" run at a terminal?
[07:52] <jadaz87> boydubai then it should be wlan0
[07:52] <simon> inc|freaky: add KeepAlive yes in your sshd_config
[07:53] <ompaul> !automatix
[07:53] <ubotu> methinks automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[07:53] <thoreauputic> spoon: udev chooses a different device name depending on what was plugged in before it
[07:53] <spoon> Thoreauputic, if I unplug it and plug it back in, it changes.
[07:53] <svenne> jason
[07:53] <boydubai> eth0      IEEE 802.11b  ESSID:"SpeedStream"
[07:53] <inc|freaky> simon: thx ;D ill try (:
[07:53] <ompaul> svenne, ^^^^ don't use automatix
[07:53] <thoreauputic> spoon: after ejecting or unmounting it?
[07:53] <linuxgeekery> boydubai, pastebin.
[07:53] <boydubai> pastebin?
[07:53] <simon> inc|freaky: you might need ClientAliveInterval 60 or something as well
[07:53] <spoon> ejecting
[07:53] <linuxgeekery> !tell boydubai about pastebin
[07:53] <reiki> !pastebin
[07:53] <thoreauputic> spoon: you must umount it before removing it
[07:53] <ubotu> rumour has it, pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[07:54] <reiki> sorry.... too quick on the trigger
[07:54] <thoreauputic> spoon: ah - well ejecting should work
[07:54] <inc|freaky> simon: k, thx ill try now ;D
[07:54] <spoon> thoreauputic, still it doesn't mount auotmaticaly. but I can mount it manualy.
[07:54] <spoon> anyhow its no big deal, I will stop buggin about it. :)
[07:54] <thoreauputic> spoon: strange - try running the command   ivman
[07:55] <navilon> any one here installed the myth tv packages
[07:55] <thoreauputic> spoon: although that may be a KDE thing ...
[07:55] <luke> i cant see anything relating to ports...
[07:55] <luke> what should i be looking for
[07:55] <spoon> command not found.
[07:55] <thoreauputic> spoon: OK
[07:55] <spoon> is KDE faster?
[07:55] <andreasn> anyone have wacom working on dapper?
[07:55] <thoreauputic> spoon: I think that's a KDE prog
[07:55] <simon> luke: port forwarding
[07:55] <boydubai> pastebin doesn't open.
[07:56] <gnomefreak> andreasn: try #ubuntu+1 for dapper
[07:56] <scifi> erUSUL: it says coundnt find source package http:archive/ubuntu..... etc
[07:56] <thoreauputic> spoon: have you tried logging out and back in?
[07:56] <simon> luke: look in your router manual
[07:56] <andreasn> gnomefreak: ok, thanks
[07:56] <gnomefreak> yw
[07:56] <luke> ADSL
[07:56] <luke> IP Addressing
[07:56] <luke> IP Routing
[07:56] <luke>  Security
[07:56] <luke>  System
[07:56] <gnomefreak> spoon: no kde is not faster
[07:56] <spoon> thoreauputic yep. been having this trouble for a few days.
[07:56] <ompaul> !enter
[07:56] <thoreauputic> luke stop that please
[07:56] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[07:56] <reiki> boydubai:  is you DSL modem USB?
[07:56] <ompaul> luke, ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
[07:57] <luke> sorry
[07:57] <spoon> someone told me KDE was faster. thought I'd ask. :)
[07:57] <luke> i didnt no there were rules
[07:57] <thoreauputic> spoon: well, it should be handled by  gnome-volume-manager in theory
[07:57] <boydubai> i'm on a wireless internet.
[07:57] <gnomefreak> spoon: no its not in breezy they are about the same
[07:57] <spiekey> hello!
[07:57] <simon> luke: http://www.portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/Linksys/WAG54G/BitTorrent.htm
[07:57] <thoreauputic> spoon: not much difference here between Gnome and KDE
[07:57] <boydubai> sad to say... i'im just connecting to my neighbor's internet.
[07:57] <ompaul> luke, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FaqOnIrc
[07:57] <boydubai> :(
[07:57] <reiki> boydubai: wireless broadband?
[07:57] <spiekey> could anyone please give me their md5sum of /bin/chown from breezy?
[07:57] <boydubai> yes.
[07:57] <gnomefreak> spoon: you want speed go with xfce or fluxbox or enlightenment
[07:58] <jadaz87> !tell luke about rules
[07:58] <boydubai> i don't know who the owner of this connection... but if i compare it to my windows connection... it's always on.
[07:58] <spoon> I have alot to learn yet. I think ubuntu is the distro to learn on. :)
[07:58] <reiki> boydubai: open a browser window and for URL just type speedstream
[07:58] <thoreauputic> luke: big channel = need rules to stop spam
[07:58] <luke> FAQ = fu**ing anal questions
[07:58] <luke> !
[07:58] <ubotu> luke: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:58] <spiekey> anyone please? md5sum /bin/chown
[07:58] <gnomefreak> ompaul: please?
[07:58] <jadaz87> it is alright luke, now you know :-)
[07:59] <naxxtor> does anyone know of a screensaver that shows system stats in an interesting way?
[07:59] <ompaul> luke, we don't do language here - now you are aware if of them be aware of them ...
[07:59] <harisund> Doesn't Ctrl Alt + and Ctrl Alt - change screen resolution on Gnome using X.org ?
[07:59] <ompaul> gnomefreak, y
[07:59] <navilon> I can't get the myth game package to install
[07:59] <method|> [12:58]  <gnomefreak> spoon: you want speed go with xfce or fluxbox or enlightenment
[07:59] <method|> hell go with kde
[07:59] <boydubai> [reiki] , i was able to open it
[07:59] <thoreauputic> spiekey: eab78f5e56f3f40736aaf4341427470a  /bin/chown
[07:59] <method|> kde is faster than gnome imo
[07:59] <thoreauputic> spiekey: on breezy
[07:59] <gnomefreak> because im looking for something and cant find it
[07:59] <xbox_sky> KDE is great
[07:59] <reiki> boydubai: look familiar?
[07:59] <gnomefreak> ompaul: i meant pm
[07:59] <welshbyte> naxxtor: run top in a gnome-terminal in full screen mode  ;)
[08:00] <scifi> erUSUL: it says coundnt find source package http:archive/ubuntu..... etc
[08:00] <spiekey> thoreauputic: thanks
[08:00] <ompaul> gnomefreak y = yes
[08:00] <boydubai> it's familiar bec i was able to open it before.
[08:00] <gnomefreak> oh
[08:00] <thoreauputic> spiekey: np :)
[08:00] <spiekey> thoreauputic: they differ to two of my hosts :(
[08:00] <thoreauputic> spiekey: odd
[08:00] <naxxtor> welshbyte, if that was a xscreensaver module i'd be happy with that....
[08:00] <boydubai> reiki, what i did now is i keep ping on running mode not to be disconnected
[08:00] <thoreauputic> spiekey: different versions?
[08:01] <harisund> naxxtor: You can have something like the Star Wars screen saver (or any other text based screen saver) and customize what gets printed.
[08:01] <boydubai> and why is it that whenever i run iwconfig my wireless card says it's eth0... and in the networking config its type is Ethernet.
[08:01] <tech_> Hi there eceryone!
[08:01] <boydubai> is this correct?
[08:01] <gnomefreak> method|: why would you go with gnome or kde if you want speed? neither of them are fast
[08:01] <reiki> boydubai: looks like you are connecting to internet though a DSL modem. And if eth0 then it appears to be hardwired. You don't have any network cables plugged in at all?
[08:01] <tech_> Does anybody know a nice GUI Mysql Administrator program?
[08:01] <harisund> tech_ mysql-admin I think
[08:01] <naxxtor> harisund, yes, but i'd be happier with something that looks a bit cooler - that looks like it was supposed to show stats
[08:01] <method|> kde is satifies my speed needs
[08:02] <method|> especially given the level of customization you can achieve
[08:02] <method|> i love all the options
[08:02] <boydubai> reiki, none... no cables plug at all
[08:02] <tech_> harisund: synaptic package manager?
[08:02] <method|> gnome seems crippled and slow
[08:02] <reiki> boydubai: laptop computer... right?
[08:02] <harisund> tech_: Yes, you can get that through the synaptic package manager.
[08:02] <gnomefreak> method|: im assuming you never played with fluxbox or any of the others i said than
[08:02] <harisund> tech_ the name of the software is mysql-admin
[08:02] <erUSUL> scifi: try disabling all the sources except the cdrom
[08:02] <tech_> harisund: thanx, I'll checj it out
[08:02] <boydubai> laptop... yes... dell inspiron 510m
[08:02] <jadaz87> gnomefreak how is enlightenment?
[08:02] <zambba> I get this error when I try to play DVD:
[08:02] <thoreauputic> method|: http://xwinman.org
[08:03] <harisund>  Doesn't Ctrl Alt + and Ctrl Alt - change screen resolution on Gnome using X.org ?
[08:03] <spoon> well I'v never heard anyone say gnome was faster yet, but a few have said KDE was faster and better. I'll have to try it out. :)
[08:03] <jadaz87> harisund i am awaiting the answer to your question also
[08:03] <zambba> I get this error when I try to play DVD: http://pastebin.com/663431 Does anyone have an idea how I could play DVD with my computer?
[08:03] <gnomefreak> jadaz87: i like it
[08:03] <method|> gnomefreak: no reason to
[08:03] <boydubai> i installed ndiswrapper for ubuntu to detect my wireless card
[08:03] <jadaz87> !dvd
[08:03] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[08:03] <harisund> jadaz87: lol.. :D
[08:03] <ompaul> harisund, only within already detected ability - there may be more if you wiki.ubuntu.com/resolution
[08:03] <method|> only other desktop manager ive used was windowmaker like 6 years ago
[08:04] <reiki> boydubai: ok... I'm familiar with the 510m... however while I know it can do wireless network, I was NOT aware there was a wireless broadband option for it. Who is your wireless broadband provider?
[08:04] <thoreauputic> method|: much haschanged since :)
[08:04] <harisund> ompaul: Ok that sounds interesting. Will have a look
[08:04] <gnomefreak> method|: than there was no reason to paste what i said and relay your 2 cents all you had to say was that kde was good enough on speed for you
[08:04] <thoreauputic> method|: even fluxbox has eye candy these days :)
[08:04] <method|> i wasn't really trying to step on your toes
[08:04] <ddonky> I accidently mv'ed a file to a non-existant directory and it's now gone, is there anyway to recover it?
[08:04] <method|> i was just relaying the message on how cool i thought kde was
[08:04] <naxxtor> as
[08:05] <naxxtor> something like conky but as a screensaver
[08:05] <method|> in comparison to gnome that is
[08:05] <boydubai> we only have 1 ISP here in dubai
[08:05] <method|> i didnt even read your comments on flux and xfce
[08:05] <gnomefreak> method|: xfce enlightenment and fluxbux _are_ faster than gnome or kde that was fact not opinion
[08:05] <thoreauputic> Desktop wars --->> #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:05] <boydubai> Etisalat
[08:05] <gnomefreak> method|: you pasted it
[08:05] <ompaul> !offtopic
[08:05] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[08:05] <zukalk> zambba, have you tried using other players?
[08:05] <xeonwales> anyone know how to run anarchy-online on ubuntu?
[08:05] <iceman-lin> ok how to run vnc in linux .. help
[08:05] <thoreauputic> gnomefreak: method| Take your argument elsewhere please
[08:05] <despedes> someone is working with XGL under dapper with an Ati video card?
[08:06] <phrowzen> iceman-lin, system->preferences->remote desktop
[08:06] <zambba> zukalk: Yes I tried VLC and mplayer. I don't know did I do everything right with mplayer.
[08:06] <harisund> ompaul: I have everything working excellently well, and I can change the resolution through gnome-display-properties. I just want it to work using Ctrl Alt + and Ctrl Alt - too.
[08:06] <phrowzen> despedes,  #ubuntu-xgl
[08:06] <spoon> I'm wondering if the KDE version of Ubuntu would see my USB memory stick.
[08:06] <thoreauputic> spoon: it should
[08:06] <xeonwales> anyone know how to run anarchy-online on ubuntu?
[08:06] <harisund> spoon: Both KDE and Gnome automatically detect and mount the USB memory stick.
[08:06] <ompaul> Harimwakairi, you can if you have more than one setting
[08:06] <thoreauputic> spoon: but so should gnome
[08:06] <reiki> boydubai: ok. I'm afraid I am not much more help in this problem. I have not set up wireless broadband. You will get this figured out... In shallah! :)
[08:06] <harisund> spoon: XFCE however doesn't
[08:07] <harisund> ompaul: I have three !
[08:07] <zukalk> zambba, xine works for every dvd i use. have you tried with it?
[08:07] <boydubai> ok
[08:07] <boydubai> thanks...
[08:07] <wood1701> hello again
[08:07] <reiki> np
[08:07] <jadaz87> gnomefreak enlightenment is a barely started project?
[08:07] <ompaul> harisund, I know people with 6 :-)
[08:07] <thoreauputic> harisund: it does if you run ivman or gnome-volume-manager
[08:07] <zambba> zukalk: yes
[08:07] <xeonwales> anyone know how to run anarchy-online on ubuntu?
[08:07] <reiki> later folks... over the river and through the woods, to grandmother's house we go....
[08:07] <zambba> zukalk: I tried Kaffeine, it uses xine's engine
[08:07] <spoon> Thoreauputic hehe, thats what I'm wondering if the KDE one would detect what the gnome version did not. anyhow I will have to try.
[08:07] <boydubai> reiki, u mean there's no clear solution yet for broadband connection for ubuntu?
[08:07] <gnomefreak> jadaz87: enlightenments been around a while
[08:07] <ompaul> harisund, if it is not working check out your fonts and make sure gnome fonts match xserver-xorg
[08:07] <iceman> phrowzen ? where ?
[08:07] <thoreauputic> xeonwales: anarchy online would be what happens in #ubuntu :)
[08:08] <reiki> boydubai: I can not say that. I just haven't tried setting it up myself
[08:08] <jadaz87> gnomefreak how can i install it on ubuntu?
[08:08] <wood1701> here is my newbie question, I am associated with an AP but when I look at "ifconfig wlan0" I don't have an IP address
[08:08] <boydubai> reiki, my question is... is it correct that my wireless interface is eth0 not wlan0?
[08:08] <gnomefreak> jadaz87: sudo apt-get install enlightenment
[08:08] <jadaz87> wood1701 do:  sudo dhclient wlan0
[08:08] <xeonwales> thoreauputic: ??? Sorry?
[08:08] <gnomefreak> maybe use aptitude instead but your choice
[08:08] <thoreauputic> xeonwales: nm
[08:08] <wood1701> ok, thaks I will go try that...
[08:08] <wood1701> thanks
[08:08] <xeonwales> nm?
[08:08] <zukalk> zambba, hm. try following the Playing DVDs paragraph here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-cd84b8e23927ccdb4bb55ffd3074687abec0cf3b
[08:09] <thoreauputic> xeonwales: if you didn't get it you don't understand anarchy
[08:09] <MHobbit> xeonwales: nm = Nevermind
[08:09] <iceman-lin> how to run a linux vnc server in linux
[08:09] <xeonwales> lol, sorry
[08:09] <thoreauputic> xeonwales: nm  = never mind
[08:09] <xeonwales> d'oh
[08:09] <harisund> iceman-lin: Go to System->Preferences->Remote Desktpo
[08:09] <xeonwales> so, will anarchy run?
[08:09] <despedes> phrowzen, tnx
[08:09] <xeonwales> just started to play in on windows
[08:10] <xeonwales> wanna use it on my ubuntu laptop
[08:10] <tech_> harisund: thanx for the tip, just tried it, looks cool (mysql-admin)
[08:10] <linuxgeekery> xeonwales, try wine
[08:10] <linuxgeekery> !wine
[08:10] <xeonwales> tried it, wont install
[08:10] <jadaz87> gnomefreak i am trying to come out with a mobile ubuntu-derivative and i am wondering what desktop environment to use haha that is why i asked lol
[08:10] <thoreauputic> !cedega
[08:11] <xeonwales> dont you gotta pay for cedega?
[08:11] <thoreauputic> !tell xeonwales about cedega
[08:11] <linuxgeekery> yup
[08:11] <gnomefreak> jadaz87: i would try them all it depends what you are looking for
[08:11] <Christopher> Does ubuntu have a type of phone dialer built in?
[08:11] <xeonwales> think i'll stick to playing it on windoz, aint gotta pay
[08:12] <gnomefreak> jadaz87: if you want speed your on the right track if you want looks go with kde
[08:12] <gnomefreak> or gnome
[08:13] <brian__> bpuccio, I used a program called BUM and this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=89491
[08:13] <gnomefreak> jadaz87: the good thing about enlightenment is it allows you to run elightenment wm inside gnome ro kde
[08:13] <iceman-lin> how to find a network id in linux .. 192.168.0. ? ? ?
[08:13] <naxxtor> are there any packages I can get to manage power settings on my laptop>
[08:13] <thoreauputic> iceman: ifconfig
[08:14] <thoreauputic> iceman: if you mean your IP
[08:14] <tombo_> I have had this problem for 4 days now please help.  On a fresh install of Ubuntu I am unable to log in properly.  If I log in with the original accountI get  I just get the brown screen.  If I add a new user it only lasts for one session and I can't log in again.  What is going on?
[08:14] <zukalk> zambba, any luck? oh, and forgot to ask: i suppose you're running Breezy, right?
[08:14] <svenne> how to install automatix
[08:14] <gnomefreak> svenne: you dont
[08:14] <tristanmike> !automatix
[08:14] <ubotu> automatix is, like, totally, unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[08:14] <wood1702> ok, that's everyone I have the wireless up and running
[08:14] <svenne> wai
[08:14] <thoreauputic> tombo_: are you running apps as root or with sudo in KDE?
[08:15] <tech_> does anybody knows how to give a password to the root in mysql ??
[08:15] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell svenne about automatix
[08:15] <gnomefreak> svenne: read your pm for more info
[08:15] <iceman-lin> awsome, thanks for the assist on that .. got vnc to run
[08:15] <malavar> hey is there an update for americas army linux?
[08:15] <thoreauputic> tombo_: check the permissions of ~/.ICEauthority
[08:15] <malavar> i cant access any of the servers
[08:15] <Gau> ubotu tell gau about wav
[08:15] <jadaz87> gnomefreak how does it do that?
[08:15] <wood1702> so here is my question, how do you get a list of wireless access points?
[08:16] <jadaz87> gnomefreak i install it and then go to gnome regularly and it whould use the enlightenment wm?
[08:16] <harisund> wood1702: iwlist wlan0 sca
[08:16] <harisund> wood1702: iwlist wlan0 scan
[08:16] <tombo_> Thoro....., No am using gnome.  How do I check permission of  /.ICEauthority
[08:16] <jeff303> does anyone know of a deb for the new version of DOSBox?  (0.65?)
[08:16] <thoreauputic> tombo_: ls -al ~/.ICEauthority
[08:17] <zambba> zukalk: No, I'm idiot who is using Dapper. ;D Now I got the audio track playing with xine-ui, video doesn't work
[08:17] <thoreauputic> tombo_: if it says root root you need to change it
[08:17] <thoreauputic> tombo_: also do ls -la ~/,Xauthority
[08:17] <gnomefreak> zambba: join #ubuntu+1 for dapper please
[08:17] <timShady> ooh man looks busy in here
[08:17] <zambba> ok
[08:17] <zambba> thanks again gnomefreak :p
[08:17] <gnomefreak> timShady: always is
[08:17] <gnomefreak> yw
[08:17] <Din> little help, how to search in console a file with specific text in, please help, i think it is something with grep
[08:18] <thoreauputic> tombo_: you can delete both files safely - they are regenerated on login
[08:18] <timShady> hehe, just saw the linky for ubuntu+1, think I'll head on there since thats what I'm on
[08:18] <wood1702> harisund: thankyou
[08:18] <ompaul> thoreauputic, you used a , not a . inthat
[08:18] <tombo_> Thoreaputic;; Give me a minuit and I'll try.  Don't go away now
[08:18] <zukalk> zambba, do gstreamer-properties, then Video tab: what is the output channel set to?
[08:18] <thoreauputic> ompaul: good catch
[08:18] <Christopher> I have a modem in my computer is there a program in ubuntu that would allow me to dial number
[08:18] <Christopher> s
[08:19] <jmoncayo> how can i copy some files from a win machine i have the link like this but i dont know how to copy the files smb://192.168.0.1/compartidos/superresp/My%20Documents/linuxweb/
[08:19] <thoreauputic> tombo_: note ompaul 's message about dot not comma
[08:19] <jmoncayo> anyone can help me?
[08:19] <ompaul> Christopher, that is very veague - you want a fax or modem to modem or modem to isp ?
[08:20] <thoreauputic> tombo_: you will need sudo rm  to remove them if they are owned by root
[08:20] <Din> how to search a word test with grep command?
[08:20] <chaz_> HOW do I get to a Windows computer on the network such as \\WINPUTER via Ubuntu Linux
[08:20] <chaz_> ?
[08:20] <jmoncayo> anyone can help me?
[08:20] <ompaul> jmoncayo, there is a smb-client piece of software
[08:20] <thoreauputic> Din: grep word fileanme
[08:20] <Christopher> ompaul, To dial numbers to talk to other people...like phone dialer for windows
[08:20] <thoreauputic> *filename
[08:20] <jmoncayo> ompaul, could you give me an example
[08:20] <Din> am i need whole disk
[08:20] <ompaul> Christopher, I have no idea
[08:20] <Din> to be searched
[08:21] <ompaul> jmoncayo, no I don't support windows at all I just konw this software exists
[08:21] <boydubai> help... i want to add a repo from this site  Seveas' Ubuntu packages v5.10. how can i add it?
[08:21] <chaz_> I can add a printer to linux cups but the test page doesn't print
[08:21] <chaz_> wrong driver?
[08:21] <chaz_> it's a lexmark
[08:21] <boydubai> i want to install weboard and skype
[08:21] <tarzeau> chaz_: which lexmark?
[08:21] <chaz_> x4270
[08:21] <wsjunior> guys what do i need to make timidity works with alsa? i try to start it with timidity -iA and i get an error message: ALSA lib seq_hw.c:455:(snd_seq_hw_open) open /dev/snd/seq failed: No such file or directory
[08:22] <tarzeau> chaz_: is it supported? linux system? which ppd?
[08:22] <jadaz87> !tell chaz_ about enter
[08:22] <tarzeau> chaz_: network? postscript?
[08:22] <chaz_> USB
[08:22] <chaz_> Ubuntu
[08:22] <wsjunior> which alsa package should i install?
[08:22] <thoreauputic> boydubai: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:22] <ompaul> chaz_, stopwith the enter key as a comma and use commas, put your idea oon a single line
[08:22] <boydubai> ty
[08:22] <tarzeau> wsjunior: what kernel do you have?
[08:22] <wsjunior> tarzeau, Linux ubuntu 2.6.15-20-k7
[08:23] <jmoncayo> doesn anyone know how to copy files from a win machine with smbclient?
[08:23] <thoreauputic> boydubai: you may need quotes around the file path
[08:23] <gnomefreak> wsjunior: join #ubuntu+1 for dapper related issues please
[08:23] <thoreauputic> 718 - you can tell it's holidays
[08:24] <gnomefreak> that high?
[08:24] <jadaz87> hello i was wondering how can i copy my source file to anothe rplace that already hasa sourcefile and overwrite it?
[08:24] <thoreauputic> yup
[08:24] <gnomefreak> figured it would be under 600
[08:24] <ompaul> thoreauputic, no we have been ~700 my daytime for a while
[08:24] <tarzeau> jadaz87: with cp?
[08:24] <thoreauputic> ompaul: ah so it's just popularity then :)
[08:24] <jadaz87> tarzeau but how to overwrite the file without having errors?
[08:24] <boydubai> thoffmeyer|AFK, (gedit:10390): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[08:24] <boydubai> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[08:24] <gnomefreak> thoreauputic: thats one way to look at it
[08:24] <gnomefreak> lol
[08:24] <iceman-lin> cool to have vnc work in linux
[08:25] <thoreauputic> ompaul: and my sleeping habits ;-)
[08:25] <ompaul> there is that
[08:25] <gnomefreak> boydubai: its normal if you used gksudo if not please use gksudo
[08:25] <gnomefreak> boydubai: it should still come up
[08:25] <tomaczec> hi
[08:25] <boydubai> the file is blank.
[08:25] <thoreauputic> gnomefreak: if you get an empty file, put quotes around the path
[08:26] <thoreauputic> oops
[08:26] <gnomefreak> boydubai: than the path isnt right please re-check it
[08:26] <thoreauputic> boydubai: that was for you
[08:26] <kakashi> hi there! i got a problem. I just reinstalled ubuntu and instead of the login menu a striped screen appears? any ideas?
[08:26] <nicklas> Hello. I have some .rar files, where the archieve manager just says: Archieve type is unsupported. What program can i use to open them then?
[08:26] <gnomefreak> !rar
[08:26] <ubotu> somebody said rar was a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[08:26] <veleno>  hello everyone, anyone can suggest an online source-code-to-html so that I can include the result in a post on blogspot ?
[08:26] <thoreauputic> boydubai: try gksudo gedit '/etc/apt/sources.list'
[08:26] <svenne> _jason how to install automatix
[08:26] <viller> hi
[08:26] <thoreauputic> !automatix
[08:26] <ubotu> hmm... automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[08:27] <thoreauputic> svenne: don't
[08:27] <nicklas> gnomefrak: thx
[08:27] <ompaul> svenne, I have told you 3 times
[08:27] <kakashi> nicklas: use synaptic and search for some ... can choose from many there !
[08:27] <thoreauputic> !easyubuntu
[08:27] <ubotu> easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu
[08:27] <viller> i'm using a different wm than metacity, how can I take a screenshot?
[08:27] <ompaul> svenne, Bye
[08:27] <gnomefreak> svenne: once again this channel does not support automatix its crap and written by someone that has nothing to do with ubuntu
[08:27] <nicklas> kakashi: k, thx
[08:28] <tomaczec> trying to install ububtu (5.04) i run into this problem for 2 times: configuring xserver-xorg (6.8.2-10) \n hdh: drive not ready for command \n Buffer I/O error on device hdh6, logical block <some number> <-- any ideas what went wrong?
[08:28] <thoreauputic> *sigh* my thought on arnieboy are not in the Ubuntu spirit I fear
[08:28] <kakashi> nicklas: dont know the names of them but just type a description and choose one of them ... i worked with more of those n
[08:28] <ompaul> thoreauputic, stop it already
[08:28] <kakashi> and everyone worked just fine
[08:28] <thoreauputic> ompaul: with pleasure
[08:28] <ompaul> hehe
[08:28] <kakashi>  i got a problem. I just reinstalled ubuntu and instead of the login menu a striped screen appears? any ideas?
[08:28] <boydubai> thoffmeyer|AFK, it opens but there's nothing in the list.
[08:29] <boydubai> i also checked the path and it's correct. i can see the sources.list in the /etc/apt/
[08:29] <martyn_> what command would i use to set rezs to 1280*1024 in termainl or comand line
[08:29] <tombo_> thoreaputic:  I just tried to list both files but I get no such file or directory.  That is the wiggly thing after la?
[08:29] <tarzeau> jadaz87: what error do you get?
[08:29] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell martyn_ about fixres
[08:29] <thoreauputic> tombo_: from your home dir, run ls -la .Xauthority
[08:29] <byron> hello
[08:30] <thoreauputic> tombo_: notice the dot
[08:30] <red_Marvin> kakshi, Is it striped in original colors? Like if each pixel row was "indented" a random amount?
[08:30] <thoreauputic> dot Xautnority
[08:30] <boydubai> reiki, i created a directory named ymessenger under /usr/bin... how can i delete this? i tried using rv but it doesn't work.
[08:30] <thoreauputic> .Xauthority
[08:30] <Lit3> hi everyone
[08:30] <tomaczec> the 5.04 livecd works quite well for my system. what did i wrong when trying to install it to the hd?
[08:30] <facugaich> buydubai: rmdir
[08:30] <byron> this is the first time using linux I dont want to waist any of your time so does anyone know any good linux tutorials that are simple enough that a person that has never used cmd line stuff can use it
[08:31] <gnomefreak> tomaczec: you cant install 5.04 for live cd
[08:31] <thoreauputic> byron: try http://tuxfiles.org
[08:31] <k31th> How would i install a xvid codec so i can use it to encode video files i have the app i want to use but xvid doesnt appar in my codec list
[08:31] <byron> thanks
[08:31] <boydubai> thoffmeyer|AFK, how can i delete a directory? i created ymessenger directory under /usr/bin but i can't remove it anymore.
[08:31] <Blissex> !proprietary
[08:31] <ubotu> Blissex: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:31] <tomaczec> gnomefreak, sure, but i have both cd's... the live and that one for hd installation.
[08:31] <Blissex> !mp3
[08:31] <ubotu> I guess mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:32] <gnomefreak> tomaczec: oh ok what are you getting during install?
[08:32] <thoreauputic> byron: also try http://help.ubuntu.com for Ubuntu help
[08:32] <fiendskull9> hey
[08:32] <Blissex> k31th: look at the link above, about restricted formats
[08:32] <fiendskull9> can ubuntu write to fat32 partitions?
[08:32] <tomaczec> gnomefreak,  trying to install ububtu (5.04) i run into this problem for 2 times: configuring xserver-xorg (6.8.2-10) \n hdh: drive not ready for command \n Buffer I/O error on device hdh6, logical block <some number> <-- any ideas what went wrong?
[08:32] <thoreauputic> fiendskull9: yes
[08:32] <bolrod> win 11
[08:32] <bolrod> oops
[08:32] <fiendskull9> thoreauputic, thanks man
[08:32] <thoreauputic> fiendskull9: but not ntfs
[08:33] <tomaczec> gnomefreak, that usually wracked my mbr, btw.
[08:33] <fiendskull9> thoreauputic, i know
[08:33] <gnomefreak> tomaczec: no i dont but by the looks of things there maybe a bad sector on the hd
[08:33] <byron> thanks
[08:33] <thoreauputic> fiendskull9: OK
[08:33] <mustang97> Hey guys.  I installed ubuntu the other day and was playing around with trying to install an eggdrop..    I found that I needed to install "gcc" .. got it installed and fixed one of the errors I had now I have this error..   any suggestions on what I need todo to fix it?
[08:33] <mustang97> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[08:33] <thoreauputic> !b-e
[08:33] <ubotu> I guess b-e is no make ?  you need build-essential or if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, you need to do a    sudo aptitude install build-essential.
[08:33] <gnomefreak> mustang97: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:33] <gnomefreak> or aptitude
[08:33] <tombo_> thoreaputic:  Okay ICEauthority has returned  '-rw--------1aaron aaron 473 2006-04********/home/aaron/.ICEauthority' from home directory
[08:34] <tomaczec> gnomefreak, i have used to different newly formatted partitions (reiserfs is what i have used)
[08:34] <mustang97> ahh.. thanks
[08:34] <tomaczec> s/to/two/
[08:34] <thoreauputic> tombo_: OK waht does ls -la .Xuthority say ?
[08:34] <thoreauputic> bah
[08:34] <thoreauputic> ,Xauthority
[08:34] <gnomefreak> reiserfs and ext3?
[08:35] <gnomefreak> or 2 whatever hoary had
[08:35] <mustang97> Is their an apt-get install command for the gcc besides haveing to search threw synaptic package manager?    took me a long ass time to find gcc in that.
[08:35] <tomaczec> gnomefreak, what you propose i should use?
[08:35] <gnomefreak> mustang97: read my above statement to you
[08:35] <thoreauputic> tombo_: and who is 1aaron ? or is that a typo?
[08:35] <gnomefreak> tomaczec: you have tried 2 different fs and both fail?
[08:36] <mustang97> I did.  oh thats the gcc installer?
[08:36] <tomaczec> gnomefreak, yes. ext3 and reiserfs on different partitions.
[08:36] <gnomefreak> mustang97: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:36] <tombo_> thoreaputic;  Xauthority returns No such file or directory
[08:36] <k31th> Blissex: i have them installed.
[08:36] <thoreauputic> tombo_: dot
[08:37] <thoreauputic> tombo .Xauthority
[08:37] <gnomefreak> tomaczec: i would check md5sum or i would burn a breezy iso (check md5sum) after you download it also
[08:37] <adogintheocean> how do u register nick on this network?
[08:37] <thoreauputic> tombo_: ls -la .Xauthority
[08:37] <tombo_> It should read '1 aaron aaron' That me I guess
[08:37] <boydubai> guys, how can i add a repo? i want to add this site  Seveas' Ubuntu packages v5.10
[08:37] <tomaczec> gnomefreak, chances are that i tried the wrong fs on the non-corrupted hd-sector...
[08:37] <boydubai> i want to install skype and webboard
[08:37] <thoreauputic> tombo_: yes I guessed it was a typo
[08:37] <gnomefreak> adogintheocean: /msg nickserv register <password> and please do it in the server tab
[08:37] <Blissex> k31th: there is no registry of codecs. Either your app supports them or not. Some apps are compiled by default not to support them. So perhaps you need to find the app compiled to use non-free codecs.
[08:38] <gnomefreak> boydubai: sudo apt-get install webboard
[08:38] <adogintheocean> thanxs
[08:38] <boydubai> ty
[08:38] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell boydubai about skype
[08:38] <mantono> Can someone recommend me a good sftp server (daemon)? I can't find anyone in the repos except vsftpd.
[08:38] <ETronik> err guys, what's the dfault cups password ??
[08:38] <gnomefreak> boydubai: you might need universe/multiverse repos enabled
[08:38] <boydubai> gnomefreak, E: Couldn't find package webboard
[08:38] <abk> hey all
[08:39] <abk> witty bitty problem
[08:39] <gnomefreak> boydubai: universe and multiverse need to be enabled in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:39] <tomaczec> to all, i have debian running for 5 yrs (about)... and now i'am trying to install this ubuntu for about 2 weeks. ububtu is user-friendly?
[08:39] <thoreauputic> ETronik: thereisn't one - if you want to use http://localhost:631  do  sudo adduser cupsys shadow
[08:39] <gnomefreak> tomaczec: yes lol
[08:39] <abk> I'm trying to mount my NTFS Windows partition with the command sudo mount -t ntfs -w /dev/hda1 /media/windows
[08:40] <abk> but when it mounts, it won't let me even see the files, much less read/write
[08:40] <abk> am I missing something?
[08:40] <gnomefreak> tomaczec: its the same installer as debian sarge
[08:40] <tombo_> thoreaputic:  I'm doing  ls la ~/.Xauthority is that right?
[08:40] <thoreauputic> tombo_: no
[08:40] <CoraxX> try #mkdir /media/windows
[08:40] <thoreauputic> tombo_: ls -la .Xauthority
[08:40] <MHobbit> abk: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#mountunmountntfs is what I used.
[08:40] <abk> CoraxX, I did
[08:40] <thoreauputic> tombo_: with the -
[08:40] <gnomefreak> no
[08:40] <tomaczec> gnomefreak, beside the debian sarge installer works for me.
[08:40] <abk> thanks, MHobbit, I'll try that
[08:40] <gnomefreak> !ubuntuguide
[08:40] <ubotu> ubuntuguide is, like, totally, out of date, reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead
[08:41] <ETronik> thoreauputic, but when I access localhost:631 and requets to configure a printer it asks me a user/password combination
[08:41] <gnomefreak> tomaczec: same installer
[08:41] <boydubai> gnomefreak, my sources.list is empty. there's nothing in it.
[08:41] <thoreauputic> ETronik: afaik it wants your user password
[08:41] <MHobbit> abk: I used that yesterday, it worked, but I didn't need to write to that partition (I'm not sure if you can anyway, I'd doubt it).
[08:41] <mustang97> hrmm
[08:41] <gnomefreak> why do i keep hearing that :(
[08:41] <tomaczec> gnomefreak, it happens in the second stage, when i have remove the cd.
[08:41] <gnomefreak> boydubai: type gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:41] <ETronik> thoreauputic, I tried that one, it was not the one...
[08:42] <mustang97> gnomefreak what bout tcl?
[08:42] <thoreauputic> ETronik: have you used the gnome printer config utility ?
[08:42] <gnomefreak> mustang97: what about it?
[08:42] <martyn_> whats the best software for burnng ISO images to cd
[08:42] <ETronik> thoreauputic, yes I did
[08:42] <gnomefreak> martyn_: gnome-baker or k3b imo
[08:42] <thoreauputic> ETronik: what was the problem with that?
[08:42] <mustang97> sorry.    its saying I dont have tcl installed.    Is their a command or do I need to install the TCL/TK package I found off google?
[08:43] <martyn_> gnomefreak_: do i need to get the from synaptic
[08:43] <thoreauputic> martyn_: just right click the ISO in Nautilus and burn it
[08:43] <gnomefreak> mustang97: what file type is the package? and why not get it from apt
[08:43] <OKOX> hi, how can i know when i installed my system ?
[08:43] <abk> OK, next question
[08:43] <gnomefreak> martyn_: sudo apt-get install k3b
[08:43] <mustang97> I am trying to do the ./configure for eggdrop..  thats what all the errors are coming from
[08:43] <abk> anyone ever heard of an application called daemon tools for windows?
[08:43] <gnomefreak> OKOX: it will boot up and prompt you for log in
[08:44] <thoreauputic> gnomefreak: he really doesn't need it to burn an ISO
[08:44] <twitch> is there a way to uninstall the grub boot loader and go back to my stock boot loader?
[08:44] <abk> it mounts disk images as volumes
[08:44] <mustang97> I got paste the c compiler errors..  now its saying I need TCL for it to compile
[08:44] <gnomefreak> thoreauputic: than why was he asking :(
[08:44] <ETronik> thoreauputic, well, somehow I'm not sure the functionality of each is equivalent, know what I mean ?
[08:44] <abk> any equivalent for Ubuntu?
[08:44] <martyn_> gnomefreak_: will that burn Bin and Cue files 2
[08:44] <tomaczec> gnomefreak, i have partitioned a 10 gig slice. could this be a prob?
[08:44] <thoreauputic> gnomefreak: he wants to know how to burn an ISO - Nautilus does it just fine
[08:44] <gnomefreak> mustang97: in terminal type apt-cache search tcl | less
[08:45] <twitch> is there a way to uninstall the grub boot loader and go back to my stock boot loader?
[08:45] <thoreauputic> martyn_: for bin/cue you need bchunk as well
[08:45] <jadaz87> hello what is the command to get packages that an apt-get install error said were needed to install?
[08:45] <gnomefreak> tomaczec: no 10 gig is plenty (the partition its self could be messed up tho
[08:45] <thoreauputic> !info bchunk
[08:45] <ubotu> bchunk: (CD image format conversion from bin/cue to iso/cdr), section universe/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 1.2.0-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 12 kB, Installed size: 68 kB
[08:45] <OKOX> gnomefreak,  i have my system installed, but i want to know which day i installed it
[08:45] <martyn_> ok
[08:45] <gnomefreak> thoreauputic: oh ok i keep hearing horror stories about nautilus not working
[08:45] <mustang97> gnomefreak: okay..  it found alot of results.  guess it just cant find the location of tcl then
[08:45] <thoreauputic> gnomefreak: hmm - OK : Works Here (TM)
[08:46] <gnomefreak> OKOX: dont know and dont know if pc can tell you either
[08:46] <twitch> is there a way to uninstall the grub boot loader and go back to my stock boot loader?
[08:46] <abk> nobody knows of an app that will mount disk images for ubuntu?
[08:46] <tombo_> thoreaputic::  I've tried  ls -la /.Xauthority, ls la .Xauthority,  ls la /.Xauthority,  ls la ~/.Xauthority.  Always no such file or directory
[08:46] <gnomefreak> mustang97: there are lots of tcl packages oh and btw if you it the down arrow youll see more
[08:46] <boydubai> gnomefreak, the /etc/apt/sources.list is empty
[08:46] <OKOX> gnomefreak,  i know how to do that, if you dont know dont answer silly things :D
[08:46] <thoreauputic> abk:  sudo mount -o loop img.iso /mount/point
[08:47] <OKOX> gnomefreak,  sorry i understood your answer badly
[08:47] <gnomefreak> OKOX: im telling you i dont think there is a way the pc cant tell you now if its been on since you installed it type top
[08:47] <jadaz87> hello what is the command to get packages that an apt-get install error said were needed to install?
[08:47] <abk> thoreauputic: that was my first thought, the file format isn't supported by mount
[08:47] <twitch> is there a way to uninstall the grub boot loader and go back to my stock boot loader?
[08:47] <mustang97> gnomefreak: how do I find the paths to these?  I know I can run ./configure --path..
[08:47] <thoreauputic> abk: what format is it?
[08:47] <abk> thoreauputic: NRG
[08:48] <gnomefreak> mustang97: locate tcl
[08:48] <abk> thoreauputic: I've never seen it before
[08:48] <thoreauputic> twidget: turn your away messages off please - we don't need to know
[08:48] <abk> thoreauputic
[08:48] <abk> aha!
[08:48] <thoreauputic> abk: a job for google, looks like...
[08:48] <twitch> is there a way to uninstall the grub boot loader and go back to my stock boot loader?
[08:48] <abk> it's a Nero image file
[08:48] <abk> OK, I can work from here
[08:48] <abk> thanks :)
[08:48] <thoreauputic> abk: try renaming it to .iso :)
[08:49] <Lit3> hi
[08:49] <jadaz87> !tell abk about enter
[08:49] <Lit3> i have a situation
[08:49] <sethk> twidget, sure, but it depends on what you mean by "stock"
[08:49] <malavar> hey
[08:49] <sethk> twitch, there is no stock boot loader
[08:49] <martyn_> thoreauputic_: thats that program installed where do i find it
[08:49] <sethk> twidget, sorry, ab completion
[08:49] <abk> thoreauputic: thanks, didn't know :)
[08:49] <malavar> can somoene tell me where to get americas army update for linux... or if there is one? cuz i cant play on any servers
[08:49] <thoreauputic> martyn_: sorry? which program?
[08:49] <sethk> twitch, I can't imagine why you would want to, but you can install the windows boot loader, if that's what you are asking
[08:50] <martyn_> thoreauputic_: k3b
[08:50] <iceman-lin> malavar what version aa you have
[08:50] <NewbieBoy> how can i delete a folder from Places menu? below the Home Folder and Desktop there a folder named install_flash... and i want to delete this folder.
[08:50] <thoreauputic> martyn_: oh - it should be in the applications menu under Sound snd Video
[08:50] <malavar> 2.50 i guess
[08:50] <jadaz87> does anyone know what this means? W: Couldn't stat source package list cdrom://Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012) breezy/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/Ubuntu%205.10%20%5fBreezy%20Badger%5f%20-%20Release%20i386%20(20051012)_dists_breezy_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[08:50] <thoreauputic> martyn_: in gnome at least
[08:50] <malavar> iceman-lin
[08:51] <martyn_> kool found it
[08:51] <NewbieBoy> or in the File Browser... there's an unwanted folder that i want to delete below the File System. how?
[08:51] <wvelez> jadaz87: are you trying to install software
[08:51] <majd> hi, something is eating up my  cpu...i don't know what it is.... top doesn't show me anything excessively using the ..........Xorg uses 27% at most...that's only it
[08:51] <thoreauputic> NewbieBoy: unwanted system folder? not a good idea to delete that...
[08:51] <mustang97> wierd...   it found all of tcl yet it don't have what the compiler needs..    libtcl.so    I tried todo locate for it but no results.
[08:51] <thoreauputic> NewbieBoy: what is it and why do you want to delete it?
[08:52] <jadaz87> wvelez yes
[08:52] <malavar> iceman-lin u there?
[08:52] <gnomefreak> jadaz87: yes please put a # infront of your cd repo and take the # away from the rest that start with deb and after the word universe please adda space than multiverse ;)
[08:52] <jadaz87> wvelez to an extracted cd image that in mounted
[08:52] <thoreauputic> !find libtcl.so
[08:52] <Lit3> when i type sudo alien aim-1.5.286-1.i386.rpm
[08:52] <Desh> Noob question: where do most apps install themselves to?
[08:52] <wvelez> jadaz87: sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:52] <Lit3> it doesnt work
[08:52] <Lit3> i dont know why
[08:52] <ubotu> Ubuntu Search of 'libtcl.so' (1 shown): (/usr/lib/hamlib/hamlibtcl.so) in universe/interpreters/hamlib3-tcl.
[08:52] <Lit3> can someone tell me what to do?
[08:52] <digits> anybody here actually running a no universe/multiverse system? ;)
[08:52] <martyn_> thoreauputic_: it says it needs cdrdao to run tryed synaptic nout there any ideas
[08:52] <thoreauputic> Desh: mostly in /usr/bin ( the executables that is)
[08:53] <blogmaster> hi everyone
[08:53] <blogmaster> :o)
[08:53] <NewbieBoy> an unwanted folder under the File System... i'll sent the screenshot in the pastebin...
[08:53] <gnomefreak> Lit3: you dont want aim for linux
[08:53] <malavar> i guess the 2.6 version of americas army isnt out for linux yet? is that right?
[08:53] <celerex> digits: /usr/local/* as well
[08:53] <thoreauputic> !info cdrdao
[08:53] <celerex> whoops
[08:53] <ubotu> cdrdao: (Disk-At-Once (DAO) recording of audio and data CD-Rs/CD-RWs), section universe/otherosfs, is extra. Version: 1:1.1.9-3ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 373 kB, Installed size: 1064 kB
[08:53] <wvelez> jadaz87: i think the cdrom is the first line...
[08:53] <gnomefreak> you really dont :( its garbage
[08:53] <Lit3> i just want to see if the converter works
[08:53] <celerex> sorry digits wrong person
[08:53] <thoreauputic> !tell martyn_ about repos
[08:53] <Lit3> oh and when i use wine to install internet explorer 6 it says to connect to the internet
[08:53] <thoreauputic> martyn_: it's in universe
[08:53] <mustang97> hamlib?
[08:53] <jadaz87> !tell Lit3 about gaim
[08:53] <NewbieBoy> thoreauputic, it's already pasted by me ... boydubai
[08:53] <Lit3> but i cant connect to the internet on wine
[08:54] <martyn_> thoreauputic_: i have all that enabled
[08:54] <Lit3> i already know gaim
[08:54] <digits> celerex: i think i'll survive ;)
[08:54] <thoreauputic> martyn_: then run sudo apt-get install cdrdao
[08:54] <gnomefreak> Lit3: there is a deb for aim iirc
[08:54] <Lit3> ok nevermine aim
[08:54] <gnomefreak> and i dont use wine never did i have no need for it
[08:54] <gnomefreak> sorry
[08:54] <Lit3> where can i get it?
[08:54] <Lit3> ] no nevermind
[08:54] <gnomefreak> Lit3: get what?
[08:54] <Lit3> i just need help with wine
[08:55] <gnomefreak> wine file.exe should do it but since its IE im not sure
[08:55] <Lit3> i download ie6,then i try to install it,and then i get an error on wine to ge connected to the internet
[08:55] <NewbieBoy> thoreauputic, i want to delete it because i know it's not important.
[08:55] <Lit3> get*
[08:55] <malavar> hey what are some good linux mmorpg's????
[08:55] <hubris> hi
[08:55] <digits> ok
[08:56] <Lit3> so what do i have to do?
[08:56] <thoreauputic> NewbieBoy: I haven't followed the whole story - what do you want to delete? full path please
[08:56] <sidd> the synaptic manager won't let me add universe repositories...any way to do it manually?
[08:56] <gnomefreak> Lit3: #winehq might be of more help if noone in here knows
[08:56] <jadaz87> hmmm whould anyone know why: sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper whould not be working?
[08:56] <Lit3> is thata channel?
[08:56] <kmag> have any of you set up kerberos realms?
[08:56] <thoreauputic> !info ndiswrapper
[08:56] <gnomefreak> Lit3: yes
[08:56] <jadaz87> lit3 yes it is
[08:56] <hubris> does anyone know how come totem movie players plays my mp3 files but beep or xmms doesn't?
[08:56] <Lit3> ok thank you
[08:56] <gnomefreak> yw
[08:57] <jadaz87> !tell hubris about restrictedformats
[08:57] <thoreauputic> jadams: because there's no such package name
[08:57] <gnomefreak> thoreauputic: breezy i think its in universe not sure though
[08:57] <steveire> Can anyone help me with glade?
[08:57] <sidd> the synaptic manager won't let me add universe repositories...any way to do it manually?
[08:57] <jadaz87> thoreauputic what is the package name for ndiswrapper?
[08:57] <steveire> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=927754#post927754 <<< there's my issue. Long winded I know. I tried to give too much info.
[08:57] <jadaz87> !repos
[08:57] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[08:57] <thoreauputic> !info ndiswrapper-utils
[08:57] <gnomefreak> jadaz87: run apt-cache policy ndiswrapper
[08:57] <ubotu> ndiswrapper-utils: (Userspace utilities for ndiswrapper), section misc, is optional. Version: 1.1-4ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 25 kB, Installed size: 128 kB
[08:58] <bluelotus> !totem
[08:58] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, bluelotus
[08:58] <bluelotus> !codecs
[08:58] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories
[08:58] <ema92>  /leave #ubuntu
[08:58] <jadaz87> gnomefreak this is an extracted image of the live cd
[08:58] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell bluelotus about msg the bot
[08:58] <bluelotus> :-) Thankyou.
[08:58] <thoreauputic> jadams:  apt-cache search ndiswrapper to find it
[08:58] <jadaz87> gnomefreak what does aptcahce and the policy flag do?
[08:58] <thene2000> Brasil?
[08:58] <sidd> the synaptic manager won't let me add universe repositories...any way to do it manually?
[08:58] <thoreauputic> jadaz87: sorry that was for you
[08:58] <thene2000> alguem do brasil?
[08:59] <jadaz87> !br
[08:59] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[08:59] <gnomefreak> jadaz87: it tells you if its installed and what repo its in
[08:59] <gnomefreak> its very handy ;)
[08:59] <thene2000> #ubuntu-br
[08:59] <thoreauputic> gnomefreak: there is no such package as ndiswrapper
[08:59] <bluelotus> I've been trying to get .wmv/.avi/.mpg files working on totem and they are failing miserably.  I've apt-get installted gstreamer0.8-plugings/pittfdll and it still doesn't work... any ideas?
[08:59] <mlowe> x keeps crashing with bad scan frequencies in X config /etc/x11/xorg.conf, when i do dpkg-reconigure, it fails to write the dri ouput file ?
[08:59] <gnomefreak> thene2000: /j #ubuntu-br
[08:59] <bluelotus> It says "could not open resource for writing"
[08:59] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell bluelotus about wmv
[09:00] <tomaczec> gnomefreak, i have one of this 'official' ubuntu cd packs (live and install). could it really be that it's a broken cd?
[09:00] <gnomefreak> bluelotus: more than likely you need the w32codecs
[09:00] <thoreauputic> tomaczec: possible
[09:00] <gnomefreak> tomaczec: could be
[09:00] <jadaz87> !w32codecs
[09:00] <ubotu> w32codecs is, like, totally, a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[09:00] <abk> !ubotu tell abk about wmv
[09:00] <bluelotus> gnomefreak, :-D thanks!
[09:00] <gnomefreak> bluelotus: yw
[09:00] <jadaz87> thoreauputic is ndiswrapper already installed on the live cd?
[09:00] <gnomefreak> jadaz87: no
[09:00] <thoreauputic> jadaz87: no
[09:01] <thoreauputic> jadaz87:  run  apt-cache search ndiswrapper
[09:01] <martyn_> thoreauputic_: cheers mat that worked great it pics up bin and cue ok
[09:01] <jadaz87> gnomefreak thoreauputic :-( and there is not package for it?
[09:01] <thoreauputic> jadaz87:  then install
[09:01] <jadaz87> thoreauputic i already did that
[09:01] <jadaz87> :-(
[09:01] <thoreauputic> jadz*cough* ndiswrapper-utils
[09:02] <thoreauputic> !info ndiwrapper-utils
[09:02] <jadaz87> thoreauputic that did not come up in the list
[09:02] <jadaz87> :-(
[09:02] <jadaz87> i will install anyway :-)
[09:02] <thoreauputic> jadaz87: have you enabled your repositories ?
[09:02] <thoreauputic> !info ndiswrapper-utils
[09:02] <ubotu> ndiswrapper-utils: (Userspace utilities for ndiswrapper), section misc, is optional. Version: 1.1-4ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 25 kB, Installed size: 128 kB
[09:02] <hubris> ok so the thing that ubotu said didn't work
[09:02] <jadaz87> thoreauputic yes
[09:03] <thoreauputic> it ahould be in main anyway
[09:03] <hubris> anyone can help me out?
[09:03] <hubris> i can't play mp3's in xmms or bmp but i can in totem...
[09:03] <gnomefreak> thoreauputic: do you get a sources.list file on live cd?
[09:03] <hubris> anyone that can help?
[09:03] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell hubris -about restricted
[09:04] <tomaczec> gnomefreak, thoreauputic, i dont believe the cd to be broken... since it starts to install the xserver and reports a hd access prob. a broken cd (imho) would not get to this stage.
[09:04] <thoreauputic> gnomefreak: is he trying to install stuff on the live CD? oops
[09:04] <hubris> gnomefreak, it ain't that
[09:04] <steveire> glade, anyone?
[09:04] <jadaz87> thoreauputic yes on the extracted image i installed it :-) thanks gnomefreak and thoreauputic
[09:05] <thoreauputic> tomaczec: hard to say - sometimes broken CDs get quite far before failing - have you checked the md5sum?
[09:05] <iceman> dangit cannot find a distro i can use for my needs ...
[09:05] <gnomefreak> hubris: ok what have you done already?
[09:05] <xxenon> hi. I'm used to using "ssh host -X" to run remove application on my local X server. However, this doesnt work on a machine. I've set "X11Forwarding yes" in sshd_config.
[09:05] <xxenon> any idea ?
[09:05] <thoreauputic> iceman: Linux from Scratch then ;-)
[09:05] <gnomefreak> thoreauputic: lol
[09:05] <tomaczec> thoreauputic, how can i check the md5 of the cd?
[09:06] <thoreauputic> xxenon: the syntax is shh -X host
[09:06] <hubris> i have installed xmms and beep
[09:06] <gnomefreak> iceman: if you tell #ubuntu-offtopic what your looking for in a  distro they might beable to help
[09:06] <hubris> i have the mp3 support
[09:06] <iceman> thoreauputic know of a linux distro that will install and run from fat 32 ... "DOS" ... used to be a couply of distros ...
[09:06] <hubris> and it works in totem
[09:06] <gnomefreak> hubris: you on breezy?
[09:06] <hubris> but for some reason not in bmp or xmms
[09:06] <hubris> yes
[09:06] <stephen_> trying to apt-get install azureus tells me its not available but referred to by another package. what gives?
[09:06] <thoreauputic> tomaczec: get the md5 number from the download site, and run md5sum on the disc to compare them
[09:06] <xxenon> thoreauputic - that doesnt change anything.
[09:06] <tomaczec> thoreauputic, btw, the error occurs _after_ removing the cd.
[09:07] <gnomefreak> i dont use beep but my xmms plays mp3s by following that guide :(
[09:07] <thoreauputic> xxenon: sorry ssh -X host
[09:07] <chintan> so
[09:07] <thoreauputic> xxenon: typo
[09:07] <tombo_> thorreaputic:  Okay forgive stupidity.  I've found Xauthority and ICEauthority in home folder.  Do I still delete them?
[09:07] <hubris> i'll have another look
[09:07] <gnomefreak> tomaczec: live cd is only run with cd in drive
[09:07] <iceman> horeauputic i can find ONE linux version, but how the heck to update it ...
[09:07] <chintan> are n00bs welcome here?
[09:07] <thoreauputic> tombo_: only if either of them are not owned by your user
[09:07] <Rdde> how can i force my samba server to only run on my intern gb network? 192.168.0.xx ?
[09:08] <tomaczec> gnomefreak, again, i used the installtion cd for install (that is that one that comes w/ the the live cd).
[09:08] <thoreauputic> tombo_: else it's something else causing your problemas
[09:08] <thoreauputic> chintan: in general, yes :)
[09:08] <stephen_> trying to apt-get install azureus tells me its not available but referred to by another package. what gives?
[09:08] <thoreauputic> chintan: just ask
[09:08] <thoreauputic> !azureus
[09:08] <ubotu> I guess azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[09:09] <tomaczec> gnomefreak, installation itself runs quite well, error occurs when the packages are extracted ... and the xserver it is.
[09:09] <bluelotus> I enabled my repositories, but I can't find the GStreamer muiltiverse package.
[09:09] <tombo_> Thoreaputic: They are in home folder of the last user I created.
[09:09] <thoreauputic> bluelotus: which one?
[09:10] <bluelotus> thoreauputic, gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse
[09:10] <jadaz87> hello eveyone again i was wondering if i do: sudo passwd root : what whould that do?
[09:10] <thoreauputic> tombo_: that isn't the issue - the issue is whether they are owned by the user
[09:10] <thoreauputic> !info gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse
[09:10] <ubotu> gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse: (All Multiverse GStreamer plugins), section multiverse/libs, is optional. Version: 0.8.11-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 18 kB, Installed size: 56 kB
[09:11] <thoreauputic> bluelotus: did you run  sudo apt-get update?
[09:11] <bluelotus> Aye.
[09:11] <thoreauputic> or relaod in synaptic?
[09:11] <bluelotus> Tried both.
[09:11] <thoreauputic> *reload
[09:11] <thoreauputic> bluelotus: well as you see from ubotu, it is in multiverse
[09:12] <mlowe> I cant reconfigure X, fails to write to /etc/X11/xorg.conf, so I can't adjust monitor frequencies, SO i can't run X/gdm HELP please
[09:12] <bluelotus> thoreauputic, I have definatly enabled it.
[09:12] <thrice`> mlowe, you need to use sudo
[09:12] <thoreauputic> bluelotus: are you using breezy?
[09:12] <tomaczec> gnomefreak, could it be something i did wrong in partitioning the slice? what would you advise for the params?
[09:12] <bluelotus> thoreauputic, apt-cache search multiverse shows nothing.  And yes.
[09:12] <thrice`> bluelotus, then it's not enabled :)  pastebin your sources
[09:12] <mlowe> thrice`: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg files to write config files !
[09:13] <stephen_> trying to apt-get install azureus tells me its not available but referred to by another package. what gives?
[09:13] <thoreauputic>  apt-cache search gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse
[09:13] <thoreauputic> gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse - All Multiverse GStreamer plugins
[09:13] <gnomefreak> tomaczec: no sorry i dont do partitioning
[09:13] <bluelotus> http://pastebin.com/663595
[09:13] <thoreauputic> bluelotus: ^^^
[09:13] <tolis__> I need a cd burner gui
[09:13] <thoreauputic> bluelotus: check your /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:13] <FlannelKing> stephen_: azureus isn't in the repository.
[09:13] <gnomefreak> tolis__: gnomebaker or k3b?
[09:13] <tomaczec> gnomefreak, know a nick who know about?
[09:14] <gnomefreak> !azureus
[09:14] <tolis__> gnomefreak, thanx
[09:14] <ubotu> [azureus]  a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[09:14] <gnomefreak> and no FlannelKing
[09:14] <gnomefreak> its non-free
[09:14] <bluelotus> thoreauputic, I pastebin'd it.  I have the multiverse in there...
[09:14] <gnomefreak> like wayyyyy non-free
[09:14] <thrice`> bluelotus, I don't see multiverse on there
[09:14] <thrice`> other than backports
[09:14] <bluelotus> line 29 & 30 ?
[09:14] <thoreauputic> bluelotus: you only have backports multiverse
[09:14] <FlannelKing> gnomefreak: hmm, I know.  I was answering his question.
[09:14] <bluelotus> oh...
[09:14] <bluelotus> how do I fix that?
[09:14] <bluelotus> :-D
[09:14] <gnomefreak> oh sorry
[09:15] <bluelotus> I followed the tutorial
[09:15] <tombo_> thoreaputic: When I type ls -la . ICE authority I get "-rw----------aaron7 admin 157 2006 -04 -16 - 20:00 .ICEauthority"
[09:15] <bluelotus> !tell bluelotus about enter
[09:15] <thrice`> !sources
[09:15] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[09:15] <Fitzsimmons> hey, I'm having a problem with starting another x server by using the command "startx -- :1"
[09:15] <thoreauputic> bluelotus: put the word multiverse at the end of your universe lines
[09:15] <thrice`> bluelotus, check out that
[09:15] <Fitzsimmons> it denies access to everything
[09:15] <bluelotus> ty
[09:15] <mlowe> I cant reconfigure X, fails to write to /etc/X11/xorg.conf, so I can't adjust monitor frequencies, SO i can't run X/gdm HELP please, I am useing sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver.xorg
[09:15] <thoreauputic> bluelotus: and then run  sudo apt-get update after saving your changes
[09:16] <stephen_> FlannelKing, thats gay
[09:16] <thoreauputic> !gay
[09:16] <Any-> can someone give me an help on networking ?
[09:16] <thoreauputic> !tell stephen_ about gay
[09:16] <bolrod> ?
[09:16] <FlannelKing> stephen_: no it's not.  Azureus is available, juts not through the repositories.  Read that link, it tells you exactly how to get it.
[09:16] <Grunz> is anybody here from germany?
[09:16] <thoreauputic> stephen_: don't use thoughtless insulting stuff here please
[09:16] <tomaczec> someone here who can answer questions concerning partitioning with ubuntu?
[09:17] <kingspawn> tomaczec: just ask
[09:17] <Lit3> i have a question
[09:17] <jadaz87> !de
[09:17] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de
[09:17] <Lit3> how do i execute files
[09:17] <Lit3> i forgot
[09:17] <Lit3> someone remind me
[09:17] <tomaczec> kingspawn, did you follow what i asked beforehand?
[09:17] <bolrod>  ./<file>
[09:17] <Lit3> like ies4linux
[09:17] <kingspawn> tomaczec: sorry, no
[09:17] <Lit3> oh yeah
[09:17] <thoreauputic> Lit3: ./scriptname
[09:17] <gnomefreak> depedns on type of file
[09:17] <bolrod> if its executable
[09:17] <Lit3> unknown
[09:17] <jadaz87> thoreauputic if i did: sudo passwd root   :what whould that do?
[09:17] <stephen_> FlannelKing, it should be available in the repository, i can't see any reason why it shouldn't be as easy to get as other open source stuff that is in the repo
[09:17] <Lit3> the file is unknown
[09:17] <thoreauputic> Lit3: you might have to make it executable
[09:17] <Lit3> just says ies4linux
[09:18] <bolrod> type   file <file>   to see what type of file it is
[09:18] <Lit3> with a picture of a green foot
[09:18] <tomaczec> kingspawn, np, i tried to install ubuntu 5.04 from an installtion disc
[09:18] <kingspawn> jadaz87: that would be setting a password for the root account
[09:18] <thoreauputic> jadaz87: it would set a root password - but you don't need to
[09:18] <FlannelKing> gnomefreak: want to help me out here?  I don't know why Azureus isn't in the repo.
[09:18] <Lit3> how di make it executable?
[09:18] <bolrod> Lit3:  what does  file <file>
[09:18] <Lit3> do i*
[09:18] <gnomefreak> stephen_: legal reason stop ubuntu from adding it to a repo
[09:18] <bolrod> output
[09:18] <kingspawn> Lit3: chmod +x file
[09:18] <tomaczec> kingspawn, things looked good and i removed the cd.
[09:18] <thoreauputic> Lit3:  chmod +x filename
[09:18] <gnomefreak> FlannelKing: anytime ;)
[09:18] <stephen_> gnomefreak, its available in gentoo and arche's repos
[09:19] <Lit3> does the file have to be on my desktop?
[09:19] <tomaczec> kingspawn, the extracting satge follows which show this error to me:
[09:19] <gnomefreak> adding azuerus to ubuntu's repo would cause ubuntu to have a lawsuit slapped on so fast heads would spin
[09:19] <kingspawn> Lit3: it has to be in the directory you are in at the moment
[09:19] <jadaz87> thoreauputic kingspawn when i do: chroot mnt dpkg-query -W --showformat='${Package} ${Version}\n' > extracted_cd/casper/filesystem.manifest :i get a permission denied
[09:19] <gnomefreak> stephen_: they might have bought a licence for it
[09:19] <gnomefreak> ort its there illegally
[09:19] <kingspawn> jadaz87: sudo in front?
[09:19] <tolis__> gnomefreak, I download gnomebaker ..I want to burn an .cue file.. and I get this:
[09:19] <gnomefreak> or*
[09:19] <mlowe> I am having a install issue, my X is not autoconfiguring, i run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, and it fails to write new config files to /etc/X11, Can anyone help ?
[09:19] <tolis__> Process can be aborted with QUIT signal (usually CTRL-\).
[09:19] <tolis__> WARNING: No super user permission to setup real time scheduling.
[09:19] <tolis__> Turning BURN-Proof on
[09:19] <tolis__> Executing power calibration...
[09:19] <tolis__> ERROR: Power calibration failed.
[09:19] <stephen_> gnomefreak, is it not GPL'ed?
[09:19] <tolis__> ERROR: Use option --force to ignore this error.
[09:19] <thoreauputic> jadaz87: do sudo -i yo get a root shell first
[09:19] <tomaczec> kingspawn, error ->  configuring xserver-xorg (6.8.2-10) \n hdh: drive not ready for command \n Buffer I/O error on device hdh6, logical block <some number> <-- any ideas what went wrong?
[09:19] <Lit3> its extracted on the desktop
[09:19] <tolis__> ERROR: Writing failed.
[09:19] <stephen_> thank you tolis__
[09:19] <gnomefreak> stephen_: hell nop
[09:20] <gnomefreak> nothing java has is gpl
[09:20] <tolis__> stephen_, about what?
[09:20] <thoreauputic> tolis__: Do not PAte here!
[09:20] <jadaz87> !tell tolis__ about pastebin
[09:20] <thoreauputic> PAste
[09:20] <kingspawn> tomaczec: well, that might indicate that your disk is about to take a leave of absence.. :/
[09:20] <gnomefreak> paste
[09:20] <thoreauputic> !paste
[09:20] <ubotu> Please don't flood the channel! For best results use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and tell people the URL
[09:20] <stephen_> tolis__, dont paste dude
[09:20] <Lit3> kingspawn, its extracted on the desktop
[09:20] <Lit3> the ies4linux folder
[09:20] <tolis__> stephen_, sorry, I didnt know
[09:20] <stephen_> gnomefreak, eclipse is gpl i'm pretty sure
[09:20] <tomaczec> kingspawn, partitioned a 10gb reiser
[09:20] <thoreauputic> tolis__: next time you get gaged
[09:20] <kingspawn> Lit3: well, from a terminal you have to cd ~/Desktop/ies4linux
[09:20] <gnomefreak> stephen_: you will never find anything by java witha  gpl attached to it
[09:20] <thoreauputic> *gagged
[09:20] <Fitzsimmons> what the
[09:20] <tolis__> anyone can help anyway ?
[09:20] <gnomefreak> eclipse isnt made by sun
[09:20] <Fitzsimmons> why the hell can't I search the forums without logging in?
[09:21] <Fitzsimmons> why'd they change that?
[09:21] <Lit3> ok then?
[09:21] <kingspawn> tomaczec: hm, well, its not looking great, try checking it thoroughly or perhaps moving alot of data in and out of it to see how it reacts
[09:21] <tomaczec> kingspawn, i left the thing working for about 12hours.
[09:21] <thoreauputic> Fitzsimmons: ask them I guess
[09:21] <scifi> hi all, considering it looks highly unlikely im going to get my modem/router working in ubuntu, what cheap mode/routers do u guys recommend for linux/ubuntu which also work with windows xp?
[09:21] <Lit3> chmod +x
[09:21] <kingspawn> tomaczec: and no problems?
[09:21] <tombo_> Thoreaputic:  Looks like I own both .ICEauthority and .Xauthority.  Are there any other solutions to my log in problem?
[09:21] <gnomefreak> Lit3: to make it executable chmod a+x
[09:21] <stephen_> gnomefreak, whys that
[09:22] <mlowe> can anyone help me with X11 configuration issues ?
[09:22] <jadaz87> scifi what router?
[09:22] <thoreauputic> tombo_: probably - but it's hard to say without more info
[09:22] <Lit3> it said to few arguments
[09:22] <gnomefreak> stephen_: #ubuntu-offtopic if you would like to continue this
[09:22] <tomaczec> kingspawn, no problem? well, it just was not installed and wrecked my mbr. so yes... some probs i got. ;)
[09:22] <Lit3> too*
[09:22] <thrice`> scifi, most linksys routers will work nicely
[09:22] <mwe> Fitzsimmons: I seem to be able to search without logging in
[09:22] <thoreauputic> tombo_: I suggest trying the ubuntu-users mailing list
[09:22] <scifi> jadaz87: origo asr-8000
[09:22] <Lit3> i typed chmod a+x and then it said "too few arguments
[09:22] <mlowe> i ask the specific questoin, no one answers ? code of conduct seems to be selective
[09:22] <kingspawn> tomaczec: heh, well, does dmesg tell you anything interesting about the disk?
[09:22] <mwe> Fitzsimmons: well the search box is visible bot doesn't work so ...
[09:23] <scifi> thrice: ok might look into that
[09:23] <tombo_> Thoreaputic;  Okay thanks for you efforts
[09:23] <kingspawn> Lit3: you gotta chmod the FILE you want to change, like chmod a+x MyFile
[09:23] <Lit3> oooh
[09:23] <kingspawn> Lit3: that makes MyFile executable
[09:23] <thoreauputic> mlowe: what was your question?
[09:23] <Lit3> i typed it in and just made a new command thing
[09:24] <martyn_> whats the best media player for watching divx and xvid
[09:24] <tomaczec> kingspawn, erm, how can i see dmesg of an instalation proccess that does not finish?
[09:24] <Lit3> look
[09:24] <Lit3>  cd ~/Desktop/ies4linux
[09:24] <kingspawn> Lit3: thats correct
[09:24] <Lit3> oopx hol on
[09:24] <Lit3> suspect@suspect:~/Desktop/ies4linux$ chmod a+x ies4linux
[09:24] <Lit3> suspect@suspect:~/Desktop/ies4linux$
[09:24] <kingspawn> tomaczec: ah, heh, sorry. well, try another install is all i can tell you, see if it happens again. if not, monitor your disk closely, and dont put your loveletters on there just yet.
[09:24] <Lit3> tahst what it did
[09:24] <kingspawn> Lit3: yeah, then ./ies4linux
[09:24] <Lit3> thats*
[09:24] <thoreauputic> mlowe: it's a busy channel - sometimes questions get missed
[09:24] <Lit3> i did it correctly?
[09:25] <kingspawn> Lit3: if the file is called ies4linux, yes you did
[09:25] <thoreauputic> Lit3: looks fine
[09:25] <mlowe> x11 configure from install is bad, i do "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg", it fails to write to /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:25] <Lit3> now just type ./ies4linux?
[09:25] <kingspawn> Lit3: go for it
[09:25] <simon_> martyn_: vlc or mplayer
[09:25] <kingspawn> mlowe: whats the error message?
[09:25] <tomaczec> kingspawn, i installed twice, using 2 different fsS (ext3, resier) and 2 diff partitions. and what i dont have are love letters to ubuntu.
[09:25] <thoreauputic> mlowe: had you already edited the file before?
[09:26] <ProN00b> is there an ubuntu testing release ?
[09:26] <Lit3> it told me to download cabextract
[09:26] <martyn_> simon_:tired mplayer and vlc to watch a xvid file it runs to fast and skips a lot
[09:26] <kingspawn> tomaczec: well, heh, then 1) your disk is shot to sh* 2) its just not going to work right now :)
[09:26] <Lit3> do i download this one?
[09:26] <mlowe> kingspawn: thoreauputic it  write a dated file, and then claims it cant write to /etc/X11/xorg.conf.date type string
[09:26] <Lit3> Debian GNU/Linux  	1.0  	cabextract package
[09:26] <kingspawn> Lit3: seems a safe bet
[09:26] <simon_> martyn_: ask for help on the vlc forum http://forum.videolan.org/
[09:26] <thoreauputic> mlowe: didyou read the message at the top of the file?
[09:26] <jmoncayo> duelboot_away, hi
[09:27] <tomaczec> kingspawn, 1) this disk is running my current debian sarge 2) and yes i boot from my floppy
[09:27] <mlowe> i will now
[09:27] <Lit3> but do i have to get the stable version?
[09:27] <Lit3> or oldstable
[09:27] <Lit3> or testing or unstable
[09:27] <mlowe> kingspawn: thoreauputic very annoying doing this in text mode
[09:27] <kingspawn> tomaczec: and no disk problems earlier?
[09:27] <ProN00b> martyn_, the file is broken ?
[09:27] <kingspawn> mlowe: textmode is the only way to go
[09:27] <tomaczec> kingspawn, none.
[09:27] <thoreauputic> mlowe:  less /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:27] <martyn_> ProN00b: no it works ok in windows
[09:28] <qkslvrwolf> I just repartioned my drive to free up some space for linux.  Now I want to mount the /home on the newly created hda4
[09:28] <thoreauputic> mlowe: capital X
[09:28] <qkslvrwolf> I just edit fstab so that hda4 mounts on /home, or do I need to do something else?
[09:28] <thoreauputic> for X11
[09:28] <Lhademmor> Anyone here who knows how to install new themes like the one on http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=28352 ? I have unzipped (or whatever they call it in Linux) the files, but don't know what to do know...
[09:28] <gnomefreak> martyn_: totem-xine
[09:28] <tomaczec> kingspawn, it's for sure... there is somethng wrong with the ubuntu distro i got.
[09:28] <Pupeno> Hello. If I update a package now, which is on Universe, will it get into Dapper's Universe ?
[09:28] <Lit3> well which one do i download?
[09:28] <kingspawn> tomaczec: yeah, i was wondering, why 5.04?
[09:28] <kingspawn> tomaczec: get 5.10
[09:28] <martyn_> gnomefreak_:whats that
[09:28] <gnomefreak> Lhademmor: go to the theme manager and install it
[09:29] <kingspawn> Lit3: just go with stable
[09:29] <gnomefreak> Lhademmor: not sure if unpacking was needed
[09:29] <mlowe> kingspawn: thoreauputic no error message at top of /etc/X11/xorg.conf*
[09:29] <Lit3> oh ok
[09:29] <gnomefreak> martyn_: its totem with an xine backing
[09:29] <Lit3> then open with or save to disk?
[09:29] <__mikem> I have a quicktime file that I am trying to play with totem, the playback is not smooth and will stop and go at random
[09:29] <gnomefreak> instead of gstreamer
[09:29] <__mikem> how do I fix this
[09:29] <jadaz87> Lhademmor System>Preferences>Them
[09:29] <jadaz87> Theme*
[09:29] <martyn_> gnomefreak_:ok do i get that in synaptic
[09:29] <Lit3> save to disk?
[09:29] <gnomefreak> __mikem: not sure please hold on a sec
[09:29] <thoreauputic> mlowe: there is a message there in the comments about how to work around writing to the file after previous edits
[09:29] <Lit3> or open with?
[09:29] <__mikem> ty :)
[09:29] <gnomefreak> martyn_: yes sudo apt-get install totem-xine
[09:30] <christopher84> how can I find out which version of gnome I've installed?
[09:30] <tomaczec> kingspawn, long story... trying to fix a prob with my debian. just needed a working system... thought: "easy, take ubuntu...." but -> no.
[09:30] <Lit3> kingspawn
[09:30] <kingspawn> tomaczec: get knoppix for such tasks, thats my advice
[09:30] <scifi> do wireless routers also work ok with linux?
[09:30] <kingspawn> tomaczec: or DSL
[09:30] <ProN00b> __mikem, you just said it was an xvid file...
[09:30] <Lhademmor> gnomefreak, jadaz87 Yes, but when I want to install a new theme it asks for a path. What file do I point it at?
[09:30] <gnomefreak> christopher84: system<about gnome
[09:30] <gnomefreak> Lhademmor: use browse
[09:30] <__mikem> ProNOOb, unless a quicktime file is an xvid file, no I didn't
[09:30] <graveson> how i do i figure out why streaming audio is not playing
[09:30] <kingspawn> Lit3: come on man, you cant ask about every single step. open with lets you extract immediately, save to disk keeps the file and lets you extract later
[09:31] <tomaczec> kingspawn, restored my mbr via knoppix after the 'first ubuntu disaster'.
[09:31] <Lit3> i know
[09:31] <Lit3> god
[09:31] <kingspawn> tomaczec: :)
[09:31] <Lhademmor> gnomefreak But what file? The XXXXXXX.theme?
 simon_:tired mplayer and vlc to watch a xvid file it runs to fast and skips a lot
[09:31] <martyn_> i love LIunx when it works lol
[09:31] <jadaz87> lhademmor what every file you downloaded that is if it is unextracted
[09:31] <jadaz87> lhademmor yes i believe so
[09:31] <Lit3> but it says to open with:/usr/mime/debian-view (default)
[09:32] <Lit3> just open with that?
[09:32] <martyn_> ProN00b_: why u repating me
[09:32] <ProN00b> to show you that you said xvid, martyn_
[09:32] <tomaczec> do you know what humor is? my smilies in this #.... ;-)
[09:33] <Lit3> Omg
[09:33] <__mikem> ProNOOb, did you happen to have a solution to my problem
[09:33] <gnomefreak> __mikem: no i havent found one :(
[09:33] <martyn_> ProN00b_: cheers
[09:33] <__mikem> thats alright
[09:33] <martyn_> gnomefreak_:CHEERS mate thats works Great
[09:34] <scifi> do wireless routers also work ok with linux?
[09:34] <gnomefreak> __mikem: i have never heard of a way to do that but i thought i read something on 1 of the 2 sites i check a nd i didnt :(
[09:34] <mlowe> kingspawn: thoreauputic ok, my console is not showing top lines of text, hard to get/read things with everything not working ?
[09:34] <martyn_> scifi _:yed
[09:34] <Lhademmor> Thank you jadaz87 and gnomefreak. It's working now. I didn't need to extract the files at all. I guess I was too used to the Windows .zip-policy :-)
[09:34] <martyn_> scifi _:yes
[09:34] <graveson> i am using the firefox browser and when trying to import something the ,the import wizrd appears,but clicking on next nothing happens.how can i remove firefox and use mozilla instead
[09:34] <ProN00b> omg, srry, i thought you two were the same nick, martyn_, __mikem
[09:34] <mlowe> kingspawn: thoreauputic and funny/bad characters on screen
[09:34] <martyn_> lol
[09:34] <__mikem> oh, its alright, I am having my own video playback problem
[09:34] <gnomefreak> Lhademmor: normally with tars you do if its an app witha  thmeme or background ect you dont
[09:35] <qkslvrwolf> I just repartioned my drive to free up some space for linux.  Now I want to mount the /home on the newly created hda4
[09:35] <qkslvrwolf> I just edit fstab so that hda4 mounts on /home, or do I need to do something else?
[09:35] <martyn_> Well must say guys the support is great in here thats me got every thing i want in an OS now installed and working big THX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[09:35] <kingspawn> qkslvrwolf: well, you might need to move your current /home into the disk first? a little unsure about that
[09:35] <ProN00b> well, __mikem quicktime is bad luck, you might try mplayer with newest codings, but apple is generally quite hatefull towards linux
[09:36] <qkslvrwolf> yeah...thats what I'm worried about
[09:36] <qkslvrwolf> I just backed it up, just in case
[09:36] <kingspawn> qkslvrwolf: atleast back it up
[09:36] <kingspawn> qkslvrwolf: yeah :)
[09:36] <qkslvrwolf> but I'm not sure how thats going to work
[09:36] <__mikem> ok, ill give that a shot
[09:36] <kingspawn> qkslvrwolf: id enable root account first also
[09:36] <__mikem> can mplayer handle .mov files
[09:36] <ProN00b> __mikem, codecs, not codings
[09:36] <qkslvrwolf> yeah
[09:36] <kingspawn> qkslvrwolf: in case user access gets botched
[09:36] <qkslvrwolf> oh, I getcha
[09:36] <qkslvrwolf> yeah, didn't even think of that
[09:36] <qkslvrwolf> hmm..
[09:37] <ProN00b> __mikem, it can handle some, but it somehow can't always catch up with apple
[09:37] <ProN00b> apple suxxors
[09:37] <ProN00b> well
[09:37] <qkslvrwolf> maybe I should mount i.t somewhere else first, then copy the homedirectories to it, then try it
[09:37] <__mikem> ok
[09:37] <icepacker> Does anyone know where I could get a "clean" apt sources.list ?
[09:37] <chaz_> What's the best value for an Apple laptop
[09:37] <chaz_> ?
[09:37] <kingspawn> qkslvrwolf: that would be my approach, atleast
[09:37] <chaz_> ProN00b, OS X = BSD
[09:37] <__mikem> what would the package name be, I can't find it, and I have all my repretwars (excuse my spelling) enabled
[09:38] <ProN00b> chaz_, kapitalism = kommunism
[09:38] <motoboi> Could someone provide-me a dpkg --get-selections for new, out-of-box ubuntu installation?
[09:38] <chaz_> ProN00b, We're talking about software/hardware correct
[09:38] <chaz_> Software != Politics
[09:38] <lakcaj> Hi.  Anyone have their volume control disappear from the panel?  Mine did, and when I add it back, it doesnt' appear.
[09:39] <mlowe> kingspawn: thoreauputic did i miss anyhelp , i have only 24 lines of text in console, actully 23 top 2 lines seem to be missing
[09:39] <qkslvrwolf> ok, I mounted it on /mnt/newdrive, I'm now copying -R /home/* /mnt/newdrive
[09:39] <ProN00b> chaz_, if you haven't noticed yet, os's have their own politics nowdays
[09:39] <kingspawn> mlowe: tried adjusting your screen?
[09:39] <qkslvrwolf> so, in theory, with my new fstab entry, I should be able to umount -a, mount -a, and that'll do it, right?
[09:40] <kingspawn> qkslvrwolf: heh, yea. be sure to let me know how this works out
[09:40] <qkslvrwolf> lol
[09:40] <mwe> qkslvrwolf: maybe you would want cp -a to keep all perms and so
[09:40] <kingspawn> qkslvrwolf: well, in theory.. :)
[09:40] <SioN> how do i install cabextract?
[09:40] <qkslvrwolf> if I disappear without saying goodbye, it didn't work so well. ;-)
[09:40] <mwe> SioN: sudo apt-get install cabextract
[09:40] <kingspawn> qkslvrwolf: even if mount -a works, id surely reboot to double check
[09:40] <mlowe> kingspawn: thoreauputic trying, if i could just get X running ;)
[09:40] <qkslvrwolf> yeah, definitely
[09:41] <chaz_> ProN00b, Well, Stalin committed genocide but I don't see what that has to do with software
[09:41] <kingspawn> mlowe: heh, well, seems like your out of X right now :)
[09:41] <qkslvrwolf> and if that doesn't work, I"ll break out my system recovery cd and wide out the bad fstab entry
[09:41] <qkslvrwolf> ;-)
[09:41] -bellefille80:#ubuntu- http://supersexe.ifrance.com
[09:41] <kingspawn> hehe
[09:41] <angie83> hello guys
[09:41] <jbroome> !spam
[09:42] <ubotu> somebody said spam was Stupid Pointless Annoying Messages, or the pork luncheon meat who's name is the acronym of Shoulder of Pork and hAM
[09:42] <r0bby> bellefille80, go away
[09:42] <bellefille80> ok
[09:42] <SioN> thank you
[09:42] <r0bby> bellefille80, I'm going to get an oper in 5 minutes if you don't go away
[09:42] <jbroome> i didn't know about the shoulder of park and ham being the source of the name.  good to know
[09:42] <bellefille80> fuck
[09:42] <tomaczec> kingspawn, btw, how can it be that the current 'debian sarge' installation cd does not show my hdh?
[09:42] <jadaz87> !language
[09:42] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[09:42] <angie83> can anyone here help me with a LAN installation?
[09:42] <jadaz87> last warning bellefille80
[09:42] <icepacker> Does anyone know where I could get a "clean" apt sources.list ?
[09:43] <r0bby> fuck
[09:43] <kingspawn> tomaczec: hm, thats not much to go on. i dont know
[09:43] <r0bby> no opers around
[09:43] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell icepacker -about sources
[09:43] <qkslvrwolf> icepacker:  there is a sources.list generator somewhere on ubuntu.com
[09:43] <bellefille80> !language r0bby
[09:43] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, bellefille80
[09:43] <gnomefreak> r0bby: language
[09:43] <r0bby> sorry
[09:43] <motoboi> A clean apt-sources.list, icepacker?
[09:43] <gnomefreak> !rules
[09:43] <ubotu> somebody said rules was the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, which we ask all Ubuntu users to follow. You can find the Code of Conduct at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/ IRC rules can be seen at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcRules
[09:43] <jbroome> !easy sources
[09:43] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, jbroome
[09:43] <jbroome> doh
[09:43] <bellefille80> !fuck
[09:43] <ubotu> bellefille80: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:43] <r0bby> bellefille80, go away.
[09:43] <gnomefreak> !easysource
[09:43] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[09:43] <tomaczec> kingspawn, not really my time of year when it comes to install a new os. maybe i wait for next winter...
[09:43] <bellefille80> r0bby suck son of a bitch
[09:43] <r0bby> you're an idiot
[09:43] <chaz_> ProN00b, What you need to understand is that software should not involve politics
[09:43] <jbroome> gnomefreak: thanks. :)
[09:44] <gnomefreak> yw
[09:44] <r0bby> bellefille80, nice
[09:44] <chaz_> Stallman is WAY off and is a harm to the movement
[09:44] <duelboot_away> !language
[09:44] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[09:44] <r0bby> now put together a coherent sentence.
[09:44] <angie83> I have a laptop without cd, and i want to install ubuntu on it from another laptop with cd, can anyone here help me to fix that installation?
[09:44] <kingspawn> tomaczec: haha, might be a good idea ;)
[09:44] <ProN00b> chaz_, apple makes little girls cry http://digg.com/apple/Girl_s_Letter_To_Apple_Gets_Legalese_Reply
[09:44] <scifi> linksys only seem to do a cable modem/router, not dsl modem/router
[09:44] <bellefille80> Excuse but I'm french and I don't understand what you said
[09:44] <leleobhz> how i can configure my soundcard with alsa in 5.10?
[09:44] <ProN00b> chaz_, thats what you should understand !
[09:44] <chaz_> ProN00b, I killed a pig this morning because I had a breakfast bagel.  Am I evil too?
[09:44] <leleobhz> cause everything are ok, but a restart misconfigure all
[09:44] <chaz_> Find some other WORTHWHILE cause for your life is what I am statingn ProN00b
[09:45] <jmoncayo> where can i find cool ubuntu wallpapers
[09:45] <chaz_> Software politics should not be it
[09:45] <gnomefreak> !ops
[09:45] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, fabbione, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee
[09:45] <r0bby> msg'd lilo
[09:45] <qkslvrwolf> icepacker:  www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[09:45] <Seveas> gnomefreak, ?
[09:45] <gnomefreak> this is too much
[09:45] <Amaranth> gnomefreak: ?
[09:45] <r0bby> it's bellefille80, spammed a link
[09:45] <SioN> ok how do i open internet explorer now?
[09:45] <ProN00b> chaz_, don't be ridiculous, a pig has no sould....
[09:45] <gnomefreak> please scroll you got language and put downs and trolling
[09:45] <r0bby> good lord
[09:45] <r0bby> keep aol banned
[09:45] <angie83> I have a laptop without cd, and i want to install ubuntu on it from another laptop with cd, can anyone here help me to fix that installation?
[09:45] <r0bby> no ubuntu user is going to be using it
[09:45] <Seveas> ProN00b, chaz_ cut it out
[09:45] <simon_> ProN00b and chaz_ stop the bullshit or go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:45] <r0bby> :)
[09:46] <Amaranth> chaz_: Please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:46] <Amaranth> simon_: Please don't swear.
[09:46] <tomaczec> ok, thx for all of your help. and good luck to all ppl that managed to install ubuntu...
[09:46] <simon_> Amaranth: sorry
[09:46] <Hackmo> hey, does anyone know where tcl is installed in ubuntu?
[09:46] <Seveas> Hackmo, dpkg -L tcl8.4
[09:47] <SioN> how do i open ies4linux
[09:47] <SioN> i finished installing it
[09:47] <SioN> i installed ie6
[09:47] <SioN> how do i open it?
[09:47] <gnomefreak> SioN: install wine?
[09:47] <jkernsjr> cheerio
[09:47] <SioN> i did'
[09:47] <gnomefreak> SioN: should be as simple as wine file.exe
[09:48] <Hackmo> Seveas: that's doesn't tell me where it is installed to
[09:48] <gnomefreak> file = IE oe whatever its called
[09:48] <Seveas> Hackmo, short answer: all over the place
[09:48] <gnomefreak> locate tcl8.4
[09:48] <SioN> wine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\ie6.exe": Module not found
[09:48] <SioN> thtas what hapened
[09:48] <jkernsjr> can anyone help with dapper sound issues with a intel 82801ba-ich2 card?
[09:48] <gnomefreak> SioN: be thankfull lol
[09:48] <qkslvrwolf> kingspawn:  appears to have worked.  One question, though?  Now how do I get rid of /dev/hda1/home?
[09:48] <gnomefreak> SioN: did you try in #winehq as i suggested 30 mins ago?
[09:48] <qkslvrwolf> its taking up a lot of work
[09:48] <qkslvrwolf> *room
[09:48] <runedude3> hey all, got a wireless question. i have a dlink dwl-g610, card installs fine, detects my wireless network, all is well.. for some reason i cannot connect to the network though, i am sure everything is fine because i have it working on windows. any ideas guys?
[09:48] <angie83> I have a laptop without cd, and i want to install ubuntu on it from another laptop with cd, can anyone here help me to fix that installation? i'm trying to do it through netboot but i can't do it ...
[09:49] <Hackmo> Seveas: thanks I found it
[09:49] <SioN> ?
[09:49] <SioN> winehq?
[09:49] <__mikem> anyone wnat to tell me how to install mplayer, I have all my repos enabled but I can't find it
[09:49] <geronimo89> could anyone give me a source for unrar-nonfree ?
[09:49] <gnomefreak> SioN: join #winehq and ask them they should beable to help more
[09:49] <Seveas> __mikem, breezy? install mplayer-686
[09:49] <geronimo89> I'm using dapper
[09:49] <Seveas> !info unrar-nonfree
[09:49] <ubotu> unrar-nonfree: (Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version)), section multiverse/utils, is optional. Version: 3.4.3-1build1 (breezy), Packaged size: 83 kB, Installed size: 216 kB
[09:49] <jkernsjr> geronimo89, doesnt dapper have unrar built in?
[09:49] <Seveas> geronimo89, ubuntu multiverse
[09:49] <__mikem> no installable canidates
[09:50] <geronimo89> jkernsjr, no
[09:50] <Seveas> __mikem, enable multiverse
[09:50] <Seveas> !info mplayer-686 breezy
[09:50] <ubotu> mplayer-686: (transitional dummy package which can be safely removed), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 1:1.0-pre6-0.3ubuntu7 (breezy), Packaged size: 54 kB, Installed size: 96 kB
[09:50] <gnomefreak> jkernsjr: no
[09:50] <chaz_> How does Dapper compare to Mandrake
[09:50] <__mikem> the funny thing is, I already enabled ALL REPOS
[09:50] <Seveas> chaz_, how does an apple compare to a pear?
[09:50] <Seveas> they're both fruit, just taste different
[09:50] <Seveas> same goes for mandrake vs Ubuntu
[09:50] <chaz_> What is goal of Dapper Ubuntu vs. Mandrake
[09:50] <angie83> I have a laptop without cd, and i want to install ubuntu on it from another laptop with cd, can anyone here help me to fix that installation? i'm trying to do it through netboot but i can't do it ...
[09:50] <runedude3> any ideas guys? :)
[09:50] <jkernsjr> no sound with a intel 82801ba-ich2...any ideas?
[09:51] <geronimo89> how to enable multiverse?
[09:51] <Seveas> chaz_, they have a common goal: solve bug #1
[09:51] <runedude3> !multiverse
[09:51] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[09:51] <runedude3> ?
[09:51] <Seveas> !tell geronimo89 about multiverse
[09:51] <jadaz87> does anyone know how i could draw a mu (the character for micro) in gimp on ubuntu?
[09:51] <geronimo89> thanks Seveas
[09:51] <Seveas> jadaz87, look at gucharmap 
[09:51] <chaz_> Why can't we standardize on one (1) solid Linux distro?
[09:51] <chaz_> All this work to reinvent the wheel we should put toward usability improvments!
[09:51] <FlannelKing> chaz_: because who wants that?  Linux is about choice.
[09:51] <thrice`> becuase that means no options for users
[09:52] <leleobhz> someone can help with alsa?
[09:52] <simon_> chaz_: couse people don't want the same things
[09:52] <jkernsjr> angie83, try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/WindowsServerNetboot
[09:52] <__mikem> seveas, everything including multiverse is enabled, I still get the same error
[09:52] <angie83> jkernsjr, that's what im following..
[09:52] <angie83> but no results
[09:52] <bolrod> apt-get update ?
[09:52] <jadaz87> seveas how do i use that with gimp?
[09:53] <angie83> jkernsjr,  and i got already ubunu on the latpop with cd
[09:53] <Seveas> __mikem which archtecture are you on?
[09:53] <Seveas> jadaz87, insert text in gimp
[09:53] <jkernsjr> angie83, do you have the bios set to PXE boot?
[09:53] <__mikem> amd Athlonxp
[09:53] <angie83> i on ly see neetowork boot
[09:53] <revartj> ji
[09:53] <revartj> h
[09:53] <revartj> hi
[09:53] <runedude3> anyone got any ideas for my wireless problem? :(
[09:53] <jkernsjr> maybe your nic/bios doesnt support PXE
[09:53] <Sn3f3ru> hi everyone; I need help enabling the external monitor with an Ati video card
[09:53] <angie83> jkernsjr, so.. how to do it?
[09:54] <Seveas> Sn3f3ru, install fglrcontrol
[09:54] <revartj> somebody help me, in how i can covert jpg to bmp?????
[09:54] <jadaz87> does anyone know what the font is that the ubuntu logo uses?
[09:54] <chaz_> Folks anyone use this:  https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html
[09:54] <jkernsjr> angie83, get a computer that has a bios that supports it or put a new nic in?
[09:54] <Seveas> revartj, install imagemagick and use: mogrify -format bmp filename.jpg
[09:54] <qatsi> hello all !! im having big trubble with lenguage packages...i need ubuntu to recognize some characters in spanish like  or stuff, because when i try to copy files i get error saying (Invalid Encoding), when i remove those characters, it works fine....any idea ???
[09:54] <Seveas> jadaz87, it's not a font, it's manually drawn
[09:54] <angie83> jkernsjr, the situation is as follows: laptop with cd = ubuntu,  laptop without cd
[09:55] <jadaz87> seveas oh ok thanks again!
[09:55] <Seveas> jadaz87, a font has been created from it, package ttf-ubuntu-title
[09:55] <revartj> Seveas, thanks
[09:55] <angie83> jkernsjr,i want to install ubuntu  on the one without cd, through the other one
[09:55] <sven> hi everybody, i got a new ref, had to reinstall my node
[09:55] <__mikem> Seveas, as I said, everything is enabled, I ran apt-get update, there is still no such package as mplayer-686 found
[09:55] <jkernsjr> angie83, again the laptop without cd has to have a bios/nic that supports PXE
[09:55] <angie83> yeah
[09:55] <jkernsjr> angie83, if it doesnt your out of luck
[09:55] <angie83> i know, and if it does not supportm i should use, netboot
[09:55] <sven> new ref is code.bulix.org/2993
[09:56] <Seveas> __mikem, are you on ppc or amd64?
[09:56] <__mikem> Athlon XP
[09:56] <jkernsjr> angie83, how about using a usb cdrom?
[09:56] <chaz_> What is consensus on Gnome vs. KDE for Ubuntu
[09:56] <chaz_> ?
[09:56] <angie83> jkernsjr, don't have.. already though of that
[09:56] <runedude3> hrm.. does anyone have a dlink wireless card (dwl-g510?)
[09:56] <Seveas> urgh
[09:56] <DewDude> chaz: personal preference
[09:56] <chaz_> ok
[09:56] <SioN> they wont tak
[09:56] <SioN> talk
[09:56] <DewDude> i have both
[09:56] <angie83> jkernsjr, how can i know if it has PXE enabled?
[09:57] <__mikem> Just out of curiousity, what did chaz do, I wasn't really paying attention to anything else that was going on in the room
[09:58] <angie83> in the bios boot
[09:58] <angie83> i can boot from lan
[09:58] <Seveas> __mikem, this channel is for support, not for chat/discussion, that's what #ubuntu-offtopic is for
[09:58] <angie83> that's pxe jkernsjr
[09:58] <angie83> ?
[09:58] <qatsi> how can i install spanish lenguage for my system ?
[09:58] <__mikem> oh
[09:58] <SioN> they not helping
[09:58] <jkernsjr> angie83, it should say in bios boot order
[09:59] <Seveas> qatsi, system  admin  language selector
[09:59] <Seveas> install spanish support there
[09:59] <gnomefreak> Seveas: you ever done the instructions for lexmark printer z600?
[09:59] <angie83> jkernsjr, in boot order, i can choose boot first from lan
[09:59] <Seveas> gnomefreak, no
[09:59] <qatsi> Seveas: i cant, when i select that i just click apply and nothing happens :s
[09:59] <angie83> that's pxe?
[09:59] <jkernsjr> angie83, probably although I think it should be marked PXE?
[10:00] <jkernsjr> angie83, how are you enabling your other pc to be ready to deploy install?
[10:00] <angie83> Network boot
[10:00] <angie83> uf
[10:00] <jadaz87> seveas what is the true title of the font? i know the package name is ttf-ubuntu-title
[10:00] <angie83> jkernsjr, not quite sure
[10:00] <jadaz87> seaveas but what whould it come up as in the gimp font selector?
[10:01] <Seveas> jadams, "Ubuntu title"
[10:01] <__mikem> well, looks like vlc does the trick just fine, thanks anyway seveas
[10:01] <Seveas> jadaz87*
[10:01] <angie83> through...dhcp3 server, jkernsjr
[10:01] <qatsi> Seveas: could the lenguage in the system prevent from copying files with special characters ?
[10:01] <jkernsjr> angie83, that sounds right
[10:01] <angie83> and tftpboot jkernsjr
[10:01] <angie83> look
[10:01] <Seveas> qatsi, it shouldn't
[10:02] <blindx> Where is XMMS installed to?
[10:02] <angie83> i tried to follow this: http://gridpt1.fe.up.pt/mlopes/blog/index.php/ubuntu-network-install/
[10:02] <angie83> but
[10:02] <Seveas> blindx, dpkg -L xmms
[10:02] <blindx> thanks
[10:02] <angie83> when i have to restart the dhcp server does not work
[10:02] <qatsi> Seveas: its because im copying files like bl.mp3, note the ...and the system says it cant be copied...when i rename the file from  to a, it works...:S
[10:02] <scifi> if i installed an ethernet card, is it more likely ubuntu will detect my modem/router, and be able to connect to the net?
[10:02] <angie83> jkernsjr, i have connected directly both computers
[10:02] <jkernsjr> angie83, try this http://gridpt1.fe.up.pt/mlopes/blog/index.php/ubuntu-network-install/
[10:03] <Seveas> qatsi, is one of the fiesystems fat32 or ntfs perhaps?
[10:03] <jkernsjr> angie83, what do you mean that the dhcp server doesnt work?
[10:03] <Noisy_1> howdy
[10:03] <qatsi> Seveas: yes, an ipod
[10:03] <angie83> jkernsjr, it's the guide i following..
[10:03] <runedude3> hey guys... i have a dlink dwl-g610, card that is installed fine, but it wont connect to the wireless network. i have it working on windows. any ideas guys?
[10:04] <Seveas> qatsi, those sometimes have problems ig you don't use nls=utf8 as mount option
[10:04] <angie83> jkernsjr, root@server:~ # /etc/init.d/dhcp3-server restart
[10:04] <angie83> Stopping DHCP server: dhcpd3.
[10:04] <angie83> Starting DHCP server: dhcpd3.
[10:04] <Noisy_1> the dhcp server should run automatically
[10:04] <angie83> this does not work
[10:04] <angie83> marks failed
[10:04] <Noisy_1> ah nvm
[10:04] <jkernsjr> angie83, what does it say?
[10:04] <angie83> failed
[10:04] <jkernsjr> angie83, do it with sudo
[10:04] <qatsi> Seveas: so i have to rename all my files ?
[10:04] <angie83> i do it as root 
[10:05] <Seveas> qatsi, use nls=utf8 as mount option for the ipod
[10:05] <runedude3> anyone? :(
[10:05] <jkernsjr> angie83, what does /var/log/messages say?
[10:05] <angie83> where?
[10:05] <qatsi> Seveas: where can i select that mount option ?
[10:05] <angie83> at the beggining? jkernsjr
[10:06] <jkernsjr> angie83, tail
[10:06] <Noisy_1> what's the difference between 5.04 and 5.10 besides a cooler name ;-P  ?
[10:06] <Seveas> qatsi, in /etc/fstab
[10:06] <jkernsjr> angie83, tail /var/log/messages
[10:06] <angie83> um...
[10:06] <qatsi> Seveas: all right, thanx :D ill try
[10:06] <angie83> lot of things
[10:06] <qatsi> Seveas: thanx a lot
[10:06] <jkernsjr> angie83, concerning dhcp
[10:06] <GodTom> !java
[10:06] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[10:06] <angie83> jkernsjr, Apr 16 22:06:17 localhost kernel: [4312062.649000]  atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e02a <keycode>' to make it known.
[10:06] <_jason> Noisy_1: packages that are 6 months more recent for one
[10:06] <Noisy_1> anything that would benefit samba server
[10:06] <Noisy_1> ?
[10:08] <angie83> jkernsjr, and variations of that
[10:08] <Noisy_1> Is it possible to update without downloading a whole new ISO?
[10:08] <_jason> ubotu: tell Noisy_1 about upgrade
[10:08] <DeMoNSeED> yes
[10:09] <Noisy_1> thanks jason
[10:09] <mwe> angie83: that doesn't matter. it's just hotkey-setup being broken
[10:09] <runedude3> ubotu: tell runedude3 about stress
[10:09] <jmoncayo> does somebody know how to controll the internet bandwidth, i want to make one computer to use only lets say 50kbps
[10:09] <angie83> mwe, jkernsjr so... where is the problem?
[10:10] <mwe> jmoncayo: qos maybe
[10:10] <jmoncayo> mwe, do you know hos to use it?
[10:10] <sukh> hello there.. im new to linux and irc! can someone tell me how i can play a dvd? which application shoukd i use?
[10:10] <_jason> !dvd
[10:10] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[10:10] <_jason> sukh: gxine is good
[10:10] <mwe> jmoncayo: I can't say I'm into the detail. sorry. it's a keyword for google though
[10:10] <sukh> do i use get apt to install this?
[10:11] <angie83> jkernsjr, any ideas?
[10:11] <jmoncayo> mwe, i know thanks anyways
[10:11] <runedude3> so, anyone willing to help with a wireless problem? again not being able to connect
[10:11] <n3storm> hi everyone
[10:11] <n3storm> does anybody here if there is a irc channel for talking about ubuntu as a server?
[10:11] <_jason> sukh: you can use totem-xine, xine-uiu, gxine, mplayer, they are all either in universe or multiverse.  You need libdvdcss2 too which you can get in the seveas' repo, ubotu mentioned
[10:12] <sukh> thanks anyway... guess im too much of a noobie to get any replys.. ill try reading more
[10:12] <qkslvrwolf> still there?
[10:12] <jmoncayo> ok this one, does somebody know how can i scan with nmap a range of ips lets say from 192.168.0.90 to 192.168.0.120 ?
[10:12] <qkslvrwolf> king...something
[10:12] <qkslvrwolf> kingspawn: it worked
[10:12] <simon_> jmoncayo: yes, you can use 192.168.0.90-120
[10:12] <_jason> sukh: be patient :)
[10:12] <qkslvrwolf> :-D
[10:12] <jmoncayo> simon_, thanks
[10:13] <linux_user400354> what is your question?
[10:13] <_jason> sukh: do you know what multiverse and universe are?
[10:13] <Noisy_1> ;P
[10:13] <sukh> nope
[10:13] <simon_> jmoncayo: you can also use 192.168.0.* to scan everyone starting with 192.168.0
[10:13] <_jason> ubotu: tell sukh about repos
[10:13] <GodTom> !java
[10:13] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[10:13] <_jason> sukh: just check your private messages for something from ubotu
[10:13] <jmoncayo> simon_, thanks a lot
[10:13] <matthew_w> Is there a decent Python IDE?
[10:14] <_jason> ubotu: tell sukh about dvd
[10:14] <Noisy_1> jason
[10:14] <_jason> Noisy_1: hmm?
[10:14] <Noisy_1> I tried the command on that wiki and nought happened O_O"
[10:14] <marcello> alguem sabe configurar rede wireless ralink no ubuntu 5.10?
[10:14] <_jason> Noisy_1: did you edit your sources first?
[10:14] <_jason> !pt
[10:14] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[10:14] <Noisy_1> no I didn't
[10:14] <Noisy_1> how is that accomplished?
[10:14] <mathojojo> hello
[10:15] <_jason> Noisy_1: it should be on the wiki
[10:15] <_jason> Noisy_1: take another look, if it's unclear just let me know
[10:15] <Noisy_1> ok, will my running CLI-only have an effect on the upgrade?
[10:15] <_jason> Noisy_1: not that I know of
[10:15] <runedude3> ubotu: tell runedude3 about dwl-g510
[10:15] <Noisy_1> awesome, thanks
[10:15] <qatsi> Seveas: ok, ive added that line to my fstab but it isnt working...look at my options: "rw,user,noauto,nls=utf8" but it still displays the error message :S
[10:15] <obscurite> gutenbrowser can't seen to connect to the X server, any ideas? I just installed it and tried to run it. setting DISPLAY doesn't seem to help
[10:15] <_Avatar_> Hello!
[10:15] <qkslvrwolf> one last question
[10:15] <linux_user400354> ubuto: tell linux_user400354 about repos
[10:15] <_jason> qatsi: did you unmount and mount again?
[10:15] <mathojojo> mhhh, does someone know how we can install proprietary ATI driver on the last Dapper flight 6 with xorg 7?
[10:16] <qatsi> _jason: i even rebooted :)
[10:16] <_jason> qatsi: ah, ok then :)
[10:16] <linux_user400354> ubutu: tell linux_user400354 about repos
[10:16] <angie83> jkernsjr, ?
[10:16] <linux_user400354> ubotu: tell linux_user400354 about repos
[10:17] <qkslvrwolf> I just repartitioned my drive, created a new hda4 partition out of my old windows partition, and mounted /home there, after copying my /home from /hda3
[10:17] <mathojojo> ATI and Xorg7....nobody know if it's possible?
[10:17] <qkslvrwolf> I now want to delete /home from hda3, but I can't see it.
[10:17] <qkslvrwolf> any ideas, without rebooting into system recovery cd?
[10:17] <qatsi> qkslvrwolf: ls -a ?
[10:17] <linux_user400354> has dapper stable been released yet?
[10:17] <qatsi> _jason: no idea ?
[10:17] <jbroome> no
[10:17] <runedude3> hey, can anyone help me? i am unable to connect to my wireless network, but it shows up :(
[10:18] <jmoncayo> simon_, do you know how can i get the version of the apps that are listening on the open ports?
[10:18] <linux_user400354> when is dapper stable supposed to be released?
[10:18] <qkslvrwolf> doesn't work, because /home is mounted on a different drive
[10:18] <jbroome> !dapper
[10:18] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[10:18] <Noisy_1> I think I broke linux!
[10:18] <qkslvrwolf> can't have two /homes
[10:18] <Noisy_1> O_O
[10:18] <simon_> jmoncayo: you could try telneting... but I don't know any automated tool for it
[10:18] <qatsi> Seveas: still there ?
[10:18] <_jason> qatsi: nope, sorry
[10:18] <runedude3> anyone?
[10:19] <mathojojo> hello
[10:19] <qatsi> _jason: well, thanx anyway :D
[10:19] <jmoncayo> simon_, i think there is a nmap flag for it
[10:19] <linux_user400354> runedude, maybe you have some encryption like wep that wont work with ubuntu
[10:19] <runedude3> no, wpa
[10:19] <runedude3> and i was running wpasupplicant
[10:19] <qkslvrwolf> oh well...I guess I'm just gonna reboot and nail it from system recovery
[10:19] <intelikey> Q; good .tiff reader/writer app ?
[10:19] <Noisy_1> do synaptic package manager and gedit exist on the server version?
[10:19] <mathojojo> ati and xorg 7 ......
[10:20] <linux_user400354> Noisy, the server version doesnt have X
[10:20] <intelikey> Noisy_1 server install no  server-release  idk
[10:20] <Noisy_1> so I can't upgrade to breezy?
[10:20] <gpled> has anyone installed wine?
[10:20] <_Avatar_> !mp3
[10:20] <ubotu> well, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:20] <_jason> Noisy_1: all you have to do is edit sources.list and run apt-get update &&apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:20] <intelikey> Noisy_1 why not ?
[10:20] <mathojojo> does anyone have test the driver ati on Xorg 7?
[10:20] <gpled> how do you install wine?
[10:20] <Noisy_1> how do I edit it?
[10:21] <_jason> Noisy_1: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:21] <Noisy_1> ahh
[10:21] <Noisy_1> nano
[10:21] <intelikey> gpied many    sudo apt-get install wine
[10:21] <linux_user400354> i have wma with digital rights media (drm). is there anyway to convert them to mp3s or another format linux can use?
[10:21] <_jason> Noisy_1: or vim if you are so inclined :)
[10:21] <Noisy_1> no thanks
[10:21] <gpled> enyc: Package wine has no installation candidate
[10:21] <mathojojo> putain, 728 utilisateurs, et que des cons
[10:21] <mathojojo> bye
[10:21] <Noisy_1> I tried vim on windows, didn't like it
[10:22] <gpled> that should be E: Package wine has no installation candidate
[10:22] <_jason> !info wine
[10:22] <ubotu> wine: (Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library)), section universe/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.0.20050725-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 14131 kB, Installed size: 55484 kB
[10:22] <intelikey> Noisy_1 you can install jed and use it   or  mc  or ....  what ever editor you like     nano is default   with server install
[10:22] <_jason> gpled: what architecture?
[10:22] <gpled> _jason: hmmm, i run amd 64
[10:22] <Noisy_1> is there a text-only web browser for the server?
[10:22] <_jason> gpled: wine is only available for 386 in the repos
[10:23] <jbroome> links lynx
[10:23] <jbroome> w3m
[10:23] <qatsi> how can i copy files with special characters to a fat32 system ?
[10:23] <intelikey> Noisy_1 w3b is default    links2  and lynx also work
[10:23] <Noisy_1> thanks
[10:23] <gpled> _jason: that mean if you run 64, you can't use wine?
[10:23] <_jason> gpled: there are ways (that I am not familiar with) but you can't install it directly from the repositories
[10:24] <kwahgib> Hi, i'm trying the ubuntu live-cd now, but for some reason i can't seem to select any refreshrate above 60mhz.. (and it should support much higher refresh-rates), any ideas?
[10:24] <_jason> gpled: might need a chroot or something, check wiki.ubuntu.com and ubuntuforums.org
[10:24] <gpled> kwahgib: you have a flatscreen?
[10:24] <kwahgib> gpled: no, a CRT
[10:25] <scifi> !refreshrate
[10:25] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, scifi
[10:25] <kwahgib> gpled: is it assuming it's an lcd? :)
[10:25] <Noisy_1> intelikey, How do I use those programs? (w3b, lynx...) it gives me unknown command when I type "w3b" in
[10:25] <Noisy_1> sorry for being a newbie : /
[10:25] <intelikey> Noisy_1 i like links2  becaues it also has grephical mode,   thus you don't need two browsers  to do text based (CLI)  and  graphic based (GUI)   you just add   -g  and it displays pictures and all.
[10:25] <scifi> kwahgib, i had same problem, there is a fix for it
[10:25] <gpled> kwahgib: was hoping you had lcd, in which case 60 or 70 is ok
[10:25] <kwahgib> scifi: ah okay
[10:25] <intelikey> Noisy_1 maybe  w3m    i thought it was b  but someone said m
[10:25] <kwahgib> scifi: and that URL helps me further?
[10:26] <Noisy_1> k
[10:26] <scifi> kwahgib: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:26] <gpled> _jason: thanks for the info. least now i know why it is not working :)
[10:26] <holycow> *hmmmM*
[10:26] <scifi> kwahgib: bare in mind i did this fix after actually installing ubuntu
[10:26] <scifi> dont know if it will work for live cd
[10:26] <_jason> gpled: yep, gl
[10:26] <intelikey> Noisy_1 learn to use [tab]  completion and you wont have that problem....    w3[tab]      :)
[10:26] <Noisy_1> the list of what seems to be run parameters goes off the page
[10:26] <kwahgib> scifi: ah okay, i hope it will
[10:26] <Noisy_1> how do I scroll back up?
[10:27] <_jason> shift+pgUp
[10:27] <Noisy_1> ty
[10:27] <spiekey> hello!
[10:27] <intelikey> Noisy_1 [shift]  + [pg-up] 
[10:27] <qatsi> ok, i cant copy files to my ipod because they have special characters, anyonw knows what to do ?
[10:28] <spiekey> i would like to encrypt my root partition and i have this howto: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=120091
[10:28] <kwahgib> scifi: ah overviewed the fixes, that should work yes, but i ll leave it for now :)
[10:28] <intelikey> Noisy_1 it only works until you switch ttys.... if you switch ttys and then come back you cant scroll up...
[10:28] <spiekey> but according to that howto it will boot from a encrypted fs, but thats where the kernel is
[10:28] <Warbo> qatsi: What kind of characters? Are they colons and slashes?
[10:28] <spiekey> how is that going to work?
[10:28] <Brew-no> Can anyone help me, I tried to compile something and I got the error: configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[10:28] <qatsi> Warbo: nope,   and stuff
[10:29] <_jason> Brew-no: what are you compiling?
[10:29] <scifi> is ubuntu easy to uninstall/remove? i dont think im gonna be able to sort my modem/router problem
[10:29] <Brew-no> fluxbox
[10:29] <intelikey> Noisy_1 in which case  run the command again then scroll up.....      also    man intro
[10:29] <Warbo> qatsi: I'm assuming the iPod uses FAT32 (I think that's the default filesystem)
[10:29] <qatsi> Warbo: yes, thats the problem
[10:29] <Brew-no> _jason: fluxbox
[10:29] <_jason> Brew-no: fluxbox is in the repositories so you don't need to compile.  But if you still want to for some reason, you need to do 'sudo aptitude install build-essential'
[10:30] <qatsi> Warbo: and Seveas told me to mount it with nls=utf8 option in fstab, but it still has the error message
[10:30] <tech> Hi there.
[10:30] <spiekey> is there a laptop or server irc ubuntu channel?
[10:30] <Brew-no> _jason: I'm doing it like this because someone said the apt-get one is outdated and slower
[10:30] <Warbo> qatsi: Well I don't know much about it sorry, but if you just want to store files on it you could put them in a .tar archive (with no compression)
[10:30] <_jason> Brew-no: k
[10:30] <crimsun> spiekey: #ubuntu-laptop
[10:31] <qatsi> Warbo ok, thats a solution, but, is there a way to read .tar files in windows ?
[10:31] <scifi> how do i remove ubuntu guys?
[10:31] <tech> Does anybody know a gui mysql administrator able to manipulate mysql data?
[10:31] <_jason> Brew-no: make sure you do 'sudo apt-get build-dep fluxbox' too
[10:31] <Brew-no> _jason, I still get the same error, do I have to log off and on again or something?
[10:31] <spiekey> crimsun: thx
[10:31] <Noisy_1> what is sudo?
[10:31] <intelikey> anyone know a good tiff editor ?    or even a viewer ?
[10:31] <tech> sudo = super user do
[10:31] <_jason> Brew-no: shouldn't have to.... what does 'which gcc' say?
[10:31] <Noisy_1> k
[10:31] <Warbo> qatsi: There are utilities like WinRAR and things which can, but you could also use a zip archive (but that doesn't save permissions and owners, and I'm not sure about the special characters)
[10:31] <Noisy_1> why do I need sudo for apt-get?
[10:32] <intelikey> !sudo
[10:32] <ubotu> [sudo]  a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[10:32] <tech> wich means the command you type will be executed as a super user (i.e. root)
[10:32] <qatsi> Warbo: well, i will use .rar o .zip
[10:32] <tech> Noisy_l: wich means the command you type will be executed as a super user (i.e. root)
[10:32] <qatsi> Warbo: thanx for the idea
[10:32] <Noisy_1> then isn't having a root account kinda redundant?
[10:32] <tech> Does anybody know a gui mysql administrator able to manipulate mysql data?
[10:32] <Noisy_1> since any user can sudo?
[10:32] <tech> not any user can do sudo
[10:32] <Warbo> Noisy_1: If you were a sysadmin for a large network, would you want users uninstalling firewalls and stuff?
[10:32] <_jason> Noisy_1: only users in the admin group can sudo
[10:33] <intelikey> does gimp do .tiff ?
[10:33] <Brew-no> _jason, nothing :/
[10:33] <intelikey> sombody   answer me.
[10:33] <Noisy_1> ah... and being the first user created on my box, I have the power..?
[10:33] <intelikey> !
[10:33] <ubotu> intelikey: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:33] <_jason> Brew-no: apt-cache policy build-essential | grep -i Installed
[10:33] <intelikey> ! !
[10:33] <ubotu> intelikey: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:33] <tech> yep
[10:33] <qatsi> Noisy_1: if you have the root user, you have the power :)
[10:33] <_jason> intelikey: I think it does, why don't you just try to open one?
[10:33] <Noisy_1> man... command line is hard
[10:34] <Warbo> Noisy_1: Yes. Although I'm not the first user (I deleted the first user and couldn't add anyone else to admin, because nobody had the power to!)
[10:34] <Noisy_1> tab tab tab tab enter tab tab tab tab... etc.
[10:34] <obscurite> intelikey - .tiff is listed in the open as menu
[10:34] <intelikey> _jason i need to install something that can open .tiff files   that's why i'm asking.
[10:34] <tech> Noisy_l: sudo is a good practice because it makes you think things twice
[10:34] <intelikey> obscurite thank you.
[10:34] <Lhademmor> Anyone here who knows how to change language in OOO?
[10:34] <tech> Noisy_l: but if you know what you're doing, useing root is probably more enjoyable
[10:34] <Warbo> Noisy_1: Sounds like ncurses rather than "true" command line
[10:35] <simon_> Noisy_1: follow this guide(or what I should call it) http://www.linuxcommand.org/ it will familiarise you with the terminal
[10:35] <intelikey> and thanks to all of ya.    l8rz
[10:35] <scifi> how do i remove ubuntu guys?
[10:35] <Noisy_1> ty
[10:35] <_jason> scifi: just delete the partition
[10:35] <simon_> scifi: just reinstall whatever OS you had before
[10:35] <scifi> im in a dual-boot
[10:36] <Brew-no> _jason:  "Installed: (none)"
[10:36] <Lhademmor> Wait, forget that. I think I just need to install the localization-packs. D'oh!
[10:36] <Warbo> scifi: If you have a LiveCD (like the Ubuntu one) you can remove the partition/s then just leave GRUB or redo the Windows bootloader
[10:36] <_jason> Brew-no: can you pastebin the output of 'sudo aptitude install build-essential' please?
[10:36] <_jason> ubotu: tell Brew-no about pastebin
[10:36] <tech> so... I'm looking for a mysql gui from where I can edit it's information. Does anybody know if it's possible with mysql-admin?
[10:37] <jadaz87> seveas i know i keep asking questions about gimp but i was wondering i have the text as you said now i want to outline the text with yellow
[10:37] <Warbo> scifi: Put all of your "/boot" on a tiny partition and change GRUB to have a timeout 0, and I find Windows actually loads quicker than normal
[10:37] <scifi> warbo: so i can use the ubuntu live cd to remove the ubuntu partitions, but then how do i redo windows loader?
[10:37] <runedude3> hey guys... i have a dlink dwl-g610, card that is installed fine, but it wont connect to the wireless network. i have it working on windows. any ideas guys?
[10:37] <jadaz87> !wireless
[10:37] <ubotu> [wireless]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers
[10:38] <runedude3> i am using ndiswrapper..
[10:38] <runedude3> the hardware is installed
[10:38] <Warbo> scifi: Well, there are a few guides for doing it, but I find that GRUB chainloading the Windows bootloader often speeds up Windows booting, you just need to keep your /boot files
[10:39] <scifi> warbo: the ubuntu boot files?
[10:39] <jadaz87> runedude3 please pastebin the output of: sudo iwconfig
[10:39] <runedude3> okie
[10:39] <Warbo> scifi: The menu you get when you boot is the GRUB bootloader and it keeps it's files in /boot
[10:39] <Noisy_1> how do I go "back" in w3m?
[10:39] <jadaz87> Noisy_1 Shift+B i believe
[10:39] <Warbo> scifi: If you keep these files (only a few MB) then GRUB will still work without Ubuntu
[10:39] <Brew-no> _jason, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12396
[10:40] <runedude3> http://pastebin.com/663701
[10:40] <Warbo> scifi: oops, a few MegaBytes
[10:40] <Alan> quick question, is Synaptec the Add/Remove programs tool in Ubuntu Dapper or is something else?
[10:40] <Alan> need to report a bug in the right place
[10:40] <_jason> Brew-no: what is the output of 'sudo echo hi'
[10:40] <sethk> Warbo, the difference between grub finding its files in a small partition vs a big partition is, maximum a couple of seconds, probably much less.
[10:40] <jadaz87> runedude3 ok so now you want to configure it
[10:40] <scifi> warbo: so the only reason to keep these /boot files wud be to possibly speed up windows bootup?
[10:40] <runedude3> jadaz87, sort of, yeah.
[10:40] <runedude3> i use WPA encryption, is that a problem?
[10:41] <Brew-no> _jason, Nothing. Oh, this means I got roots pass wrong, doesn't it?
[10:41] <Warbo> scifi: Yes. You can just get rid of GRUB, and I'm on Google at the moment for you
[10:41] <_jason> Brew-no: it should be your user password.  Is that what you are using?
[10:41] <firefly> hi :)
[10:41] <jadaz87> runedude3 i do not think so they have a wiki on it in the ubuntu wiki
[10:42] <Warbo> sethk: Yes, but if you wipe Ubuntu from / you can still keep a tiny partition for /boot and Windows, no Ubuntu required (and no real space wasted)
[10:42] <Alan> hi firefly (I'm here asking questions too)
[10:42] <runedude3> jadaz87,  i followed it step by step, but in the end it doesnt work
[10:42] <firefly> intel only provides graphics card drivers as rpm...what should i do?
[10:42] <runedude3> it wont connect at all, it just cant, i guess
[10:42] <sethk> Warbo, yes, that's quite true.  I guess I didn't quite get the point you were making
[10:42] <Brew-no> _jason: It wasn't but I just did and it worked xD lol what a noobish mistake
[10:42] <firefly> hi Alan :)
[10:42] <jadaz87> runedude3 what the wpa wiki? se if your card is supported by wpasupplicant: http://hostap.epitest.fi/wpa_supplicant/
[10:42] <_jason> Brew-no: k
[10:42] <ltibor65> Hi Guys! Help me, please! How to get and install Skype for Dapper Drake?
[10:43] <_jason> !dapper
[10:43] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[10:43] <runedude3> jadaz87, you know.. 1 sec.. i think i made a booboo
[10:43] <Noisy_1> will a GUI lag my computer significantly (L-6 @ 333mhz w/ 256mb RAM) ?
[10:43] <runedude3> a big one
[10:43] <Noisy_1> K-6*
[10:43] <Warbo> scifi: OK, are you in XP or something older? It seems there are a few ways of doing it
[10:43] <jadaz87> runedude3 ok i will be here
[10:43] <runedude3> :)
[10:43] <jadaz87> :-)
[10:43] <sethk> Noisy_1, significantly is not a meaningful term.  A heavy weight desktop might seem slow there.  Fluxbox would be fine
[10:43] <sethk> Noisy_1, or any other light weight desktop; I happen to like fluxbox but there are others
[10:44] <Noisy_1> is fluxbox ubuntu?
[10:44] <sethk> Noisy_1, it's available in ubuntu, sure
[10:44] <firefly> does anyone have any advice?
[10:44] <Noisy_1> how do I install it from CLI?
[10:45] <scifi> warbo: xp
[10:45] <runedude3> jadaz87, well, i may have got a new error:
[10:45] <runedude3> Trying to associate with 00:13:10:2e:7a:7e (SSID='_' freq=2437 MHz)
[10:45] <runedude3> Association request to the driver failed
[10:45] <sethk> Noisy_1, it has packages, I believe, just like installing anything else
[10:45] <jadaz87> Noisy_1 sudo apt-get install fluxbox
[10:45] <mwe> Noisy_1: sudo apt-get install fluxbox after enabling !universe
[10:45] <Noisy_1> how do I enabe universe?
[10:45] <jadaz87> runedude3 did you even set your ssid?
[10:45] <runedude3> yes
[10:45] <Warbo> scifi: Apparently the command "fixmbr" works from an XP CD in "rescue" mode, but I don't know whether it will work in a regular installation (You do know how to get a terminal in XP right?)
[10:45] <mwe> !tell Noisy_1 about universe
[10:46] <runedude3> my ssid is _
[10:46] <scifi> warbo: the other option is for me to get a netwrok card and see if ubuntu eud detect my modem router, but i suspect i wud still need drivers (this is why i want to remove it)
[10:46] <mwe> Noisy_1: see /msg from ubotu
[10:46] <jadaz87> runedude2 it is really an underscore? :-\
[10:46] <runedude3> yes.
[10:46] <runedude3> it is
[10:46] <Warbo> scifi: Drivers for a router? None needed!
[10:47] <jadaz87> runedude3 and you said that you followed the wiki?
[10:47] <scifi> Warbo: so with a network card id have a btter chance of getting my mode/router working?
[10:47] <runedude3> yes.
[10:47] <scifi> modem*
[10:47] <jadaz87> runedude3 did you checl to see if your card was supported?
[10:47] <runedude3> well
[10:47] <runedude3> ndiswrapper loaded the driver fine
[10:47] <runedude3> and it shows up in the list of devices used by ndiswrapper
[10:47] <runedude3> 1 sec
[10:47] <frank_> exit
[10:47] <mwe> runedude3: it's no guarantee it's gonna work
[10:47] <runedude3> yeah, neta3ab driver present, hardware present
[10:48] <sethk> scifi, the term "modem" is imprecise.  You might have a cable or dsl modem or a telephone modem.  The question is how you connect to the modem.  If you use a serial connection to talk to the modem, then a network card is irrelevant
[10:48] <mwe> runedude3: you should lookup your card on ndiswrapper.sf.net and use the recommended driver or i might not work even if it shows your hardware is present
[10:48] <jadaz87> runedude3 no i mean for wpasupplicant?
[10:48] <Brew-no> _jason; argh, now I got configure: error: Fluxbox requires the X Window System libraries and headers.
[10:48] <runedude3> oh.
[10:48] <Warbo> scifi: Well most network cards (all?) work in Linux fine, and a router is just a little computer (usually running Linux) which you network to. Modems can be a little tricky (USB ones)
[10:48] <Noisy_1> My md5 is fine but I have a corrupt file on every cd I burn
[10:48] <jadaz87> mwe he is also using wpasupplicant
[10:48] <sethk> Brew-no, indeed, all desktops require the xserver
[10:48] <mwe> jadaz87: yes
[10:48] <Noisy_1> can I get this file without downloading a whole iso?
[10:48] <firefly> I'm being ignored, aren't I? :(
[10:49] <runedude3> jadaz87, on the wpasupplicant supported list it has ndiswrapper.
[10:49] <Brew-no> sethk, so how am I running GNOME right now?
[10:49] <narg> what kinda program might I use if I simply want a non-interactive way to send email to an account?
[10:49] <_jason> Brew-no: apt-get build-dep fluxbox
[10:49] <roh> re
[10:49] <sethk> Brew-no, I didn't say x wasn't installed, I said all desktops require x
[10:49] <scifi> sethk/warbo: its a usb modem router, im connecting to it on this pc with the usb port, but if i bought a network card i cus try connectin to it via the ethernet port.
[10:49] <jadaz87> runedude3 no you have to see if your wireless card is supported
[10:49] <shinu> why is this:  find ./ -type d -size +200M working? it doesnt show up any results :/
[10:49] <easterducky> narg, building a spambot are you?   ;-)
[10:49] <scifi> usb adsl modem router*
[10:49] <runedude3> on ndiswrapper's site?
[10:49] <firefly> The intel downloads are all RPMs; how can I get these drivers for ubuntu?
[10:50] <jadaz87> runedude3 ndiswrapper just allows you to use windows drivers
[10:50] <sethk> scifi, I think it's a bit easier to connect with ethernet, if you have the choice
[10:50] <jadaz87> runedude3 no on this site
[10:50] <narg> easterducky: definitely :p
[10:50] <mwe> shinu: directories don't have that size
[10:50] <Warbo> scifi: This sounds like mine (a BT Voyager thingy) and you are definetly better using the network, even from Windows. You can get network cards really cheap off Ebay (Igot 2 for $)
[10:50] <jadaz87> runedude3 http://hostap.epitest.fi/wpa_supplicant/
[10:50] <easterducky> narg, then pleade FOAD (metaphorically speaking, of course)
[10:50] <Warbo> oops 4
[10:50] <Scarborough> what should I type to search after a program in the terminal?
[10:50] <sethk> firefly, there are tools you can use with ubuntu to use rpms, but it is very unlikely to work well for you.
[10:50] <shinu> mwe: oh yea.. figures..
[10:50] <easterducky> narg,  pleade = please
[10:50] <jadaz87> runedude3 oh ok i see what you are saying hold on
[10:51] <stephelton> anyone know what the kdb package is called?
[10:51] <narg> easterducky: FOAD?
[10:51] <sethk> firefly, there must be another distribution, not just rpm.
[10:51] <firefly> sethk, what do you recommend then?
[10:51] <shinu> mwe: is there any way i can see which directories contain more than a say.. 200M?
[10:51] <firefly> sethk: not on the official site, and not that I can seem to find on google :-/
[10:51] <sethk> firefly, if your network card is working, wire it up to the modem.  but you'll have to know the ethernet configuration on the modem.
[10:51] <Warbo> shinu: KDE has a nice app for that
[10:51] <Brew-no> _jason, E: Unable to find a source package for fluxbox
[10:51] <Brew-no>  Does that amtter?
[10:51] <jadaz87> runedude3 you did this: sudo wpa_supplicant -iath0 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -Dmadwifi -w
[10:51] <mwe> shinu: I don't think you can with a simple command
[10:51] <_jason> Brew-no: have you enabled universe?
[10:51] <shinu> mwe: ok then.. ill just du and grep maybe
[10:51] <shinu> Warbo: called?
[10:51] <mwe> shinu: du -h .
[10:52] <scifi> Warbo: ok i may try a network card before giving up on ubuntu completely
[10:52] <sethk> firefly, try extracting the files from the rpm, but I'm not optimistic about it.
[10:52] <Noisy_1> How can I replace a corrupted file in my ISO without downloading a new ISO?
[10:52] <shinu> mwe: yep yep, thanks
[10:52] <Brew-no> _jason, Er, no. What's that?
[10:52] <_jason> ubotu: tell Brew-no about universe
[10:52] <Warbo> shinu: filelight
[10:52] <sethk> Noisy_1, mount the iso, extract all the files into a directory, replace the file in that directory, and use mkisofs to create a new iso image
[10:52] <mwe> shinu: du -h|sort|less if it floods your terminal
[10:52] <jadaz87> runedude3 do you have a registered nick? if so can i pm you?
[10:52] <Noisy_1> yes, but how do I get the file?
[10:53] <firefly> alright. I'll give it a shot
[10:53] <Warbo> scifi: Honestly it is really simple for routers. My dad is using a USB modem which means I can't upgrade him to Dapper, but it works fine (after some work) on Breezy
[10:53] <shinu> mwe: oh! sort! thats something new! thanks :] 
[10:53] <shinu> Warbo: thanks, ill check it out
[10:54] <scifi> Warbo: and hes connected to it via ethernet?
[10:54] <Noisy_1> is there a place to download individual files that are usually packaged in an ISO?
[10:54] <Noisy_1> my file is corrupt
[10:54] <jadaz87> is anyone here good with gimp? if so please PM me
[10:54] <stephelton> anyone know what the kdb package is called?
[10:54] <Warbo> scifi: No, it is USB only. Just a modem. It's the classic "Do you want to download drivers for this modem?" situation in Windows!
[10:54] <graveson> i have some problems with firefox.i cannot use the iport wizrd.can someone help please
[10:55] <welshbyte> isn't easy to be good with gimp on dapper at the moment... there
[10:55] <welshbyte> ...'s a bug which means closing any dialogs crashes it
[10:55] <gnomefreak> stephelton: k3b? for burning cds
[10:55] <antisocial_boris> can anyone suggest a good podcast client?
[10:55] <Warbo> Noisy_!: You can "extract" an iso with file roller, replace the dodgy bits and rebuild it
[10:55] <scifi> Warbo: how did u get it working in Ubuntu?
[10:55] <gnomefreak> banshee
[10:55] <Mortis_kruuul> http://www.mp3.muzyka.oz.pl :P
[10:55] <crimsun> stephelton: if you mean the kernel debugger, it isn't packaged.
[10:55] <stephelton> gnomefreak, ahhhh yes thats right :) thanks
[10:55] <gnomefreak> antisocial_boris: banshee
[10:55] <Noisy_1> where do I get the replacement file?
[10:55] <gnomefreak> stephelton: ye
[10:55] <gnomefreak> yw
[10:55] <stephelton> crimsun, i was after k3b
[10:55] <stephelton> thx gnomefreak
[10:56] <shinu> can i make checkinstall to only make the deb package and not isntall it?
[10:56] <Alan> hmm by typing synaptic in a terminal I've figured out the add remove program is not synaptic but what is it?
[10:56] <Warbo> scifi: Well it's a SagemFast800 and uses the "EagleUSB" driver. This IS on the Ubuntu install CD but it doesn't work well, so I compiled the source code and uninstalled the "linux" package so his kernel won't upgrade (and break the driver)
[10:56] <Xenguy> shinu: that's what it does by default IIRC
[10:56] <fliegenderfrosch> I have a problem with rsync. I've made a script for syncronizing my folder "Musik" with the folder "MUSIC" on my MP3-player (iriver h140). Now I get serveral errors like "rsync: mkstemp "/media/H100/MUSIC/Various/V2 Finest Pop Collection 2005/.01 - If  You don't Get what You Want.ogg.3rBmOs" failed: Read-only file system (30)". The last time that I've tried to run the script it worked. How can I fix it?
[10:56] <gnomefreak> shinu: man checkinstall see if there is a flag for that
[10:57] <_jason> Alan: gnome-app-install
[10:57] <shinu> gnomefreak: im doing that already
[10:57] <Warbo> Noisy_1: Search google?
[10:57] <shinu> Xenguy: yeah but it installs right after that right?
[10:57] <Noisy_1> !tell Noisy_1 about where to get replacement files for an iso
[10:57] <Brew-no> _jason, Cool, what did I just do?
[10:57] <Alan> jason thanks
[10:57] <_jason> Brew-no: apt-get build-dep, installs all of the packages needed to compile the package
[10:57] <Xenguy> shinu: I thought not, but I could be wrong (it's been awhile)
[10:57] <gnomefreak> Xenguy: the one for breezy i thought installed them right after and the one for dapper makes you dpkg it
[10:58] <Xenguy> gnomefreak: hrm, really
[10:58] <shinu> im still breezy
[10:58] <Xenguy> me too
[10:58] <Noisy_1> I'm still hoary
[10:58] <gnomefreak> ^^ not positive on that but i know i had to dpkg -i the last thing i used with checkinstall i dont remember ever having to do that before dapper
[10:58] <Brew-no> _jason, It still says E: Unable to find a source package for fluxbox
[10:59] <gnomefreak> iirc checkinstall in dapper is still borked anyway
[10:59] <Warbo> shinu: I find that checkinstall doesn't automatically install debs. Although that's because they never work right (and I have to dpkg --force-all them)
[10:59] <crimsun> you need the deb-src line for universe enabled.
[10:59] <Brew-no> _jason, maybe I should just apt-get install fluxbox
[10:59] <shinu> Warbo: worked quite a few times for me..
[10:59] <_jason> Brew-no: yes, you could.  YOur problem probably means you don't hve the deb-src repos enabled
[11:00] <Brew-no> _jason, is it easily fixed?
[11:00] <georgedh> hello
[11:00] <Warbo> shinu: Well Qemu is working this way, but I always get errors to do with files being in other packages
[11:00] <Curtman> It seems that almost any time I copy a large file (500M+ or so) my disk keeps chugging after the file is done being copied, and within an hour or so, the computer is for all intents and purposes locked up..  Anyone else seen this happen, or know how I can see exactly what is causing all the disk activity?
[11:00] <scifi> Warbo: if i was as experienced as u i might be able to get it working, this site http://accessrunner.sourceforge.net/ has firmware/drivers for a similar Origo modem, but it involves recompiling, and i have no clue how to do this
[11:00] <Liam> yo
[11:00] <Noisy_1> Where might I find replacement files for an ISO? I know HOW to replace them, I just need the files
[11:00] <Liam> how can i install openssl-devel ?
[11:00] <georgedh> can i ask a question?
[11:00] <_jason> Brew-no: yes, take a look at your /etc/apt/sources.list, you should see a bunch of commented deb-src lines.  sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list , remove the # signs in front of those lines, save, sudo apt-get update
[11:00] <shinu> Warbo: hm... i think my qemu worked alright..
[11:01] <Warbo> scifi: Well comiling source is actually quite simple: It is usually the program configure (which comes with the source) then make then make install and it is working
[11:01] <campbeld> help wanted making sound card work
[11:01] <Warbo> shinu: Yes, but not with KQemu :)
[11:01] <campbeld> the sound card model is GT4810
[11:01] <georgedh> is Ubuntu an embedded version of Linux?  I'm new to this
[11:01] <georgedh> i'm not even sure what embedded version means.... i just heard it
[11:01] <shinu> Warbo: ah yes, i think i had problems there too xD
[11:01] <graveson> i have some problems with firefox.i cannot use the import wizard.can someone help please
[11:01] <crimsun> campbeld: pastebin the output from ``lspci -v && lspci -nv && lsmod |grep ^snd && cat /proc/asound/cards && tail -2 /proc/asound/oss/sndstat && amixer -c0''
[11:01] <graveson> anyone please
[11:01] <Liam> how can i install openssl-devel ?
[11:02] <Warbo> georgedh: Embedded is small computers, usually Flash based not Hard Drive, which can be left on to be, say, an information access point
[11:02] <Liam> anyone know the apt-get command ?
[11:02] <crimsun> !info libssl-dev
[11:02] <ubotu> libssl-dev: (SSL development libraries, header files and documentation), section libdevel, is optional. Version: 0.9.7g-1ubuntu1.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 2421 kB, Installed size: 7116 kB
[11:02] <welshbyte> graveson: care to share a little more detail?
[11:02] <crimsun> Liam: apt-get install libssl-dev
[11:02] <Liam> that doesnt work for me :(
[11:02] <scifi> erUSUL: welcome back, u know that usb adsl modem problem i have, do u also agree connecting to via ethernet port (if i buy a netwrok card) wud solve my problems?
[11:02] <crimsun> Liam: you need breezy-security and breezy enabled for main
[11:03] <georgedh> Warbo ohh thanks.. so to have Ubuntu isntalled  on my pc from a dick isn't embedded then?
[11:03] <Liam> oh
[11:03] <sethk> from a dick?
[11:03] <Brew-no> _jason, I did that and now it's installing a whole lot of stuff.
[11:03] <fires> embedded dick?
[11:03] <_jason> Brew-no: k
[11:03] <scifi> lmao
[11:03] <graveson> welshbyte: i am trying to import the totem player into firefox 1.5 but when the wizard appears ,the next button does not function
[11:03] <Noisy_1> Where might I find replacement files for an ISO? I know HOW to replace them, I just need the files
[11:04] <welshbyte> graveson: um, "import the totem player"? what are you trying to do?
[11:04] <Curtman> Anyone else here use Linux on a Asus A8V-MX mobo?
[11:04] <erUSUL> scifi: does it have a ethernet conection? it would be the easiest path for you. a 10/100 network card only cost a few 
[11:04] <fredl> Hrmm, now I suddenly have kdm as my display manager.... how do I make gdm the default again?
[11:04] <graveson> i want to listen to streaming audio ,then i picked up this problem .also i would like to import old bookmarks
[11:05] <campbeld> crimsun: please see ur pvt msg, the output of the command you asked me to run is there
[11:05] <georgedh> Warbo I'm not sure what you said means.  but am i right to think it means havign Ubuntu installed from a diSC (sorry) on my pc wouldn't be embedded?
[11:05] <welshbyte> graveson: ah then you just need to install the appropriate plugin for firefox
[11:05] <fredl> I dunno why I keep trying this KDE... been giving it fair chances over the years but I just cannot get used to it.
[11:05] <georgedh> i didn't realize i made that typo
[11:05] <Warbo> georgedh: Embedded systems are usually specially designed. Ubuntu is a standard, generic installation for PCs (32 and 64 bit) and PowerPC (older AppleMacs, OpenDesktopWorkstation, PegasOS, etc)
[11:06] <Liam> thanks
[11:06] <Liam> working now :)
[11:06] <scifi> erUSUL: yes my dads pc currently uses the one and only ethernet port on it, but we cud just switch, hed have to use the usb port (only running win xp) and i cud use the ethernet port if i got a network card
[11:06] <crimsun> campbeld: you're not identified, so I won't receive queries (network policy)
[11:06] <campbeld> ok
[11:06] <topyli> Fred: sudo update-alternatives -config x-session-manager
[11:06] <welshbyte> graveson: and old bookmarks can be imported from the bookmarks manager
[11:06] <crimsun> campbeld: please use pastebin
[11:06] <Warbo> georgedh: Embedded is a bit of a "buzz word" really, it can mean what you want it to. It could be argued that any PC is an embedded system
[11:06] <campbeld> will you download from URL? I'll upload to FTP
[11:06] <Alan> _jason: thanks agian.  bye
[11:06] <graveson> welshbyte: i have tried all the plugins from the firefox and restricted format wiki pages but no luck :(
[11:07] <welshbyte> graveson: what kind of media are you trying to play? maybe there's no codec for it...?
[11:07] <Noisy_1> Where might I find replacement files for an ISO? I know HOW to replace them, I just need the files
[11:07] <topyli> fredl: sudo update-alternatives --config x-session-manager (sorry Fred)
[11:07] <scifi> erUSUL/warbo: been looking at some network cards, some say they defo support linux others arent so definite
[11:07] <georgedh> Warbo ahhh ok. thanks. i ought to do some reading up on this. I'm lacking in the more dtetailed computer knowledge other than click here dreg there etc
[11:07] <campbeld> crimsun: download the command output from http://darrencampbell.com.au/pastebin.txt
[11:07] <Brew-no> _jason, It did it! Yay!
[11:07] <georgedh> drag^
[11:07] <Warbo> Noisy_1: I'm guessing this is an Ubuntu ISO? With Debian ISOs you can use Jigdo to download each file seperately and build them into an ISO
[11:08] <Noisy_1> yes ubuntu
[11:08] <Noisy_1> 5.10
[11:08] <graveson> welshbyte:not sure ,the link points to a asp page. my guess is wm
[11:08] <crimsun> campbeld: 404
[11:08] <fredl> tnx topyli, but that lets me change the session manager, not the display manager.
[11:08] <fredl> topyli - is that correct?
[11:08] <malv> man, a whole 'nother month and a half till dapper =(
[11:08] <mwe> campbeld: pastebin.com works well
[11:08] <Warbo> scifi: Any PCI network card should support Linux. Intel ones definely work (like mine). Linux is a UNIX, which are designed for networking. That is where their strenghth lies
[11:09] <DewDude> where are x includes in ubuntu usually kept?
[11:09] <welshbyte> graveson: if you go to the page where the media is embedded you can hit Ctrl+i to get the page info dialog and then it'll be listed in the media tab as embedded media
[11:09] <michal__> jest tu ktos sprechajacy po polsku ??:D
[11:09] <campbeld> crimsun: thanks please try again now the file is in the correct directory
[11:09] <graveson> welshbyte: okay hang on -thnx
[11:09] <topyli> fredl: looking at the list of alternatives, x-session-manager is the closest i can think of
[11:09] <thene0genesis> where can I get handbrake
[11:10] <topyli> fredl: indeed it's not correct
[11:10] <fredl> topyli - how do you look at the list of alternatives?
[11:10] <mwe> DewDude: /usr/include/
[11:10] <simon_> michal__: the only polish I know is kurwa and pedau
[11:10] <topyli> fredl: ls /etc/alternatives :)
[11:10] <michal__> eeeeeeeeeee polaka szukam jakiegos
[11:10] <Warbo> galternatives I think
[11:10] <Seveas> michal__, #ubuntu-pl
[11:10] <Warbo> nice GUI
[11:10] <fredl> heh
[11:11] <erUSUL> scifi: buy the cheapest you can find, it will be some realtek 8139 that is surely supported by linux
[11:11] <michal__> jak juz to peda()
[11:11] <DewDude> mwe: thanks
[11:11] <graveson> welshbyte:it is mp3 files
[11:11] <Seveas> !pl
[11:11] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu.pl
[11:11] <Seveas> hmm
[11:11] <georgedh> does anyone know if there is a version of Paltalk that works with Ubunuty or any version of Linux?
[11:11] <Seveas> !pl =~ s/#ubuntu.pl/#ubuntu-pl/
[11:11] <ubotu> OK, Seveas
[11:11] <michal__> ok dzieki za info :)
[11:12] <topyli> fredl: actyally i can't see anything appropriate there, sesson manager is not it
[11:12] <campbeld> crimsun: could access pastebin.txt?
[11:12] <fredl> topyli - indeed.
[11:12] <Warbo> fredl: I used galternatives mainly for my bootsplash thing. But it doesn't work in Dapper :(
[11:12] <mwe> campbeld: pastebin.com works well
[11:12] <thene0genesis> What's the best sw for encoding videos for a video Ipod?
[11:12] <georgedh> Seveas, was that to my question? or someone else
[11:12] <fredl> thing is, kdm doesn't seem to work reliably in dapper yet
[11:13] <mwe> fredl: it's broken for you too?
[11:13] <crimsun> campbeld: yes, it works fine. Please execute ``sudo update-pciids''
[11:13] <mwe> fredl: like freeze on reboot
[11:13] <welshbyte> graveson: make sure totem (or whatever program you have installed a firefox plugin for) can play mp3s and if it can't you'll probably need to install the appropriate codecs
[11:13] <crimsun> campbeld: is that computer a Breezy system?
[11:13] <fredl> mwe - yup. It comes up after a reboot but when I log out my screen is fubar
[11:13] <mwe> fredl: yeah
[11:13] <scifi> warbo/erUSUL: ok will get a card when i can, its certainly worth a try for 5/6. but what i dont understand is ubuntu will still have to communicate with the modem/router via the ethernet cable, so whats changed??? or is just because there are no usb drivers that is causing the problem here?
[11:13] <graveson> welshbyte : ok let me verify that
[11:13] <mwe> fredl: I reported a bug
[11:13] <campbeld> crimsun: what's a Breezy system?
[11:13] <crimsun> campbeld: lsb_release -r
[11:14] <[t0rc] > Anyone know if X-Fi drivers have been released yet?
[11:14] <crimsun> [t0rc] : no, and there are none forthcoming.
[11:14] <georgedh> does anyone heard of Paltalk?
[11:14] <campbeld> crimsun: 5.10
[11:14] <Warbo> scifi: A USB device is just a peripheral (just an extra thing plugged into your computer) so the computer needs to make it work (with a driver). With a network card the router runs itself and you just make a network with it
[11:14] <crimsun> campbeld: that's Breezy.
[11:14] <jtt> hi, whats the terminal command to shutdown x?
[11:14] <[t0rc] > crimsun: aww....that makes me sad. Why not any coming up?
[11:15] <mwe> jtt: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop if you're running gdm
[11:15] <qatsi> is the information lost when changing the id of a drive with fdisk,,,??
[11:15] <campbeld> crimsun: ok so what's next... sudo command done...
[11:15] <Warbo> georgedh: What does it do? There may be something similar in Ubuntu (sounds like maybe Gnomemeeting/Ekiga)
[11:15] <jtt> thx mwe!
[11:15] <scifi> Warbo: ty, thats make sense
[11:15] <fredl>  /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[11:16] <crimsun> campbeld: rerun the command I gave you before and repastebin
[11:16] <scifi> just hope ive got a space pci slot lool
[11:16] <scifi> spare*
[11:16] <qatsi> is the information lost when i change a partition's system id ??????????
[11:16] <DewDude> why is Ubuntu one of the most difficult distros to compile things on?
[11:16] <Noisy_1> I'm tired of dealing with installation problems, downloading debian
[11:16] <roryy> DewDude: it is ?
[11:16] <qatsi> sorry for the "?"'s
[11:16] <DewDude> i keep hitting walls everywhere i turn
[11:16] <mwe> DewDude: why do you think so?
[11:16] <Warbo> DewDude: Because it comes on 1 CD, so it doesn't include kernel source, etc.
[11:17] <mwe> DewDude: you mean like missing libraries?
[11:17] <DewDude> right now i have an issue with x includes
[11:17] <georgedh> Warbo Paltalk is a chat program that haas rooms you chat in text and in voice.  like whole groups of people open a room and take turns using the mic to talk.
[11:17] <georgedh> www.paltalk.com
[11:17] <tolis__> how I use greek on keyboard??
[11:17] <mwe> DewDude: install libx11-dev and xlibs-dev for starters
[11:17] <campbeld> crimsun: new pastebin.txt has been uploaded
[11:17] <roryy> DewDude: try x-window-system-dev
[11:18] <crimsun> campbeld: please always provide a url
[11:18] <tolis__> greek fonts I mean
[11:18] <DewDude> hrmmm
[11:18] <campbeld> crimsun: http://darrencampbell.com.au/pastebin.txt
[11:18] <DewDude> yeah, i've been sitting here looking for x dev packages
[11:18] <campbeld> crimsun: yeah i should know better :-)
[11:18] <Warbo> georgedh: Oh. Well I guess you know about Yahoo! and Jabber and stuff, so GAIM is out?
[11:18] <georgedh> a friend of mine told me about a program called Skype but i couldnt get it to work
[11:19] <campbeld> try jajah.com it's nice for cheap calls too
[11:19] <georgedh> you can check it out at www.skype.com i think
[11:19] <DewDude> software voip isn't up to snuff yet
[11:20] <DewDude> i believe skype has a linux client for x86...and that's the only one
[11:20] <campbeld> jajah.com uses your own phone, activated through the internet
[11:20] <[t0rc] > crimsun: any knowledge why X-Fi drivers are taking so long? Creative bogging it down?
[11:20] <enyc> georgedh: skype in nonfree nonstndard messenger
[11:20] <Bung> can anyone recommend anything better the XMMS, kind of like amaroK? (I cant run amaroK slows my system down real bad)
[11:20] <georgedh> yea i know about yahoo.. and i have GAIM
[11:20] <georgedh> but Paltalk is better
[11:20] <tarzeau> Bung: opencubicplayer
[11:20] <tarzeau> Bung: cynthiune.app
[11:20] <DewDude> bung: beep-media-player
[11:20] <enyc> a good SIP whone works well ... software VOIP // ekiga etc. can work well ;-)
[11:20] <mwe> DewDude: you can use apt-file search to locate a package containing a specific header
[11:20] <Warbo> georgedh: Skye uses voice chat over peer2peer, so you route everyone else's voice and it is supposed to be really bad for your HD. Try Ekiga
[11:20] <DewDude> AHH
[11:20] <Bung> DewDude: isnt it called audacious now?
[11:21] <Bung> which isnt stable
[11:21] <enyc> but getting sip to work to you host over network with NAT/NAPT can be a bother ;-)
[11:21] <DewDude> umm
[11:21] <DewDude> i use an old beep
[11:21] <Bung> tarzeau: thanks
[11:21] <Warbo> enyc: Ekiga autodetects NAT
[11:21] <DewDude> i don't like anything that slaves to a media engine
[11:21] <enyc> Warbo: sure... reverse connections etc. may not work right wethout manual config etc. on NAPT or NAT system
[11:21] <crimsun> [t0rc] : they haven't provided anything to developers, so we can't write anything.
[11:22] <Warbo> DewDude: What is the main difference between BMP and XMMS?
[11:22] <tolis__> guys guys guys ..How I use greek fonts?? I have add greek in Keybord preference layout.. but it still dont work
[11:22] <DewDude> Creative has a history of not wanting to support Linux
[11:22] <DewDude> Warbo: i'm not sure.
[11:22] <crimsun> campbeld: add the unfiltered output from lsmod, please
[11:22] <enyc> h0me5k1n: hello swindon-person ;-)
[11:22] <[t0rc] > Dang
[11:22] <DewDude> xmms uses old gtk
[11:22] <georgedh> enyc... skype is nonfree..?  meaning it costs money to use?
[11:22] <DewDude> like, it won't browse my music drive
[11:22] <Warbo> DewDude: Well Industrial maps to GTK1&2
[11:23] <tolis__> georgedh, skype is free
[11:23] <Warbo> georgedh: Non-free in Linux means you can't do what you want with it
[11:23] <enyc> georgedh: meaning its not free-software as per the froo-software-defininion from the free-software-foundation in short
[11:23] <DewDude> i just use bmp..because it was easiest to get all my formats working for
[11:23] <georgedh> Warbo oh i didnt realize...   too bad.   Paltalk is better probably..... a lot of people from around the world go there and I ahvent heard of any such problms
[11:23] <georgedh> how do i downlaod Ekga?
[11:23] <georgedh> Ekiga^
[11:23] <Warbo> froo software is good
[11:23] <DewDude> gstreamer is still missing support for half of my formats or so
[11:23] <Warbo> georgedh: I'm gonna try it in WINE if you give me a sec
[11:23] <qatsi> is my information erased when i change the partitions system id with fdisk ???
[11:23] <mwe> DewDude: it doesn't like kde either
[11:23] <[t0rc] > They won't help out any distros?
[11:24] <DewDude> i don't use kde
[11:24] <tarzeau> qatsi: no
[11:24] <Scarborough> is there any good mp3 -> ogg converter
[11:24] <campbeld> crimsun: http://darrencampbell.com.au/unfiltered.txt
[11:24] <DewDude> t0rc: no
[11:24] <tarzeau> qatsi: gpart can fix it
[11:24] <Warbo> Hmmm. My nautilus has crashed :(
[11:24] <enyc> georgedh: ekiga is a package in _dapper_ not _breezy_ basically
[11:24] <enyc> georgedh: dapper beta released on thursday
[11:24] <codecaine> whats new on it?
[11:24] <enyc> georgedh: talk on #ubuntu+1 channel for discussion about dapper
[11:25] <xbox_sky> soo non-free means basically it's free to use, but you can't modify it?
[11:25] <tarzeau> xbox_sky: it's individual
[11:25] <Warbo> OMG have you seen the size of the Paltalk licence?
[11:25] <qatsi> tarzeau: ok, because somehow it changed to Type 44, and i need it to be NTFS...86 i think :) so my info wont be lost ?
[11:25] <erUSUL> Scarborough: it is a bad idea to convert between two lossy audio formats. try soundconverter
[11:25] <xbox_sky> tarzeu, hmm what do you mean exactly?
[11:25] <tarzeau> qatsi: it's just the partition table type
[11:25] <mwe> xbox_sky: it means you're not free to do what you want with it
[11:26] <tarzeau> xbox_sky: it can be, but it can also be something else
[11:26] <mwe> xbox_sky: for one thing
[11:26] <[t0rc] > DewDude: hmm...wonder why not. Kinda ridiculous. It'll encourage people who love Linux to buy more of their hardware...(although not their software more than likely). Maybe I can find out...
[11:26] <Scarborough> erUSUL: whats that?
[11:26] <georgedh> oh ok
[11:26] <qatsi> tarzeau: yes, but windows dosnt read type44, it has to be 86
[11:26] <xbox_sky> yes but it's still "free" for the public to "borrow" ?
[11:26] <DewDude> well
[11:26] <tarzeau> qatsi: obviously
[11:26] <DewDude> i have an audigy 2, and only recently has ALSA properly supported it
[11:26] <crimsun> campbeld: could you download a Dapper Flight 6 live cd and test?
[11:26] <qatsi> tarzeau: actually it has to be #7
[11:26] <mwe> xbox_sky: free as in you don't have to pay money to use it
[11:26] <DewDude> Createive isn't interested in linux, they don't support it with the new cards
[11:26] <qatsi> tarzeau: ok, lets hope all my music isnt deleted from that drive
[11:27] <welshbyte> xbox_sky: depends on the license of the particular bit of software
[11:27] <maike-maus> can anybody  help me by network printer install?
[11:27] <Warbo> georgedh: This is non-free "You may not modify, adapt, translate, reverse engineer, decompile, disassemble the Software or create derivative works using or based on the Software"
[11:27] <georgedh> thanks enyc
[11:27] <xbox_sky> gotcha guys
[11:27] <georgedh> if i d/l Ekiga do i just type apt-get install Ekiga ?  in the terminal?
[11:27] <campbeld> Dapper Flight is next version of Ubuntu?
[11:27] <xbox_sky> thanks
[11:27] <enyc> georgedh: ekiga is a package in _dapper_ not _breezy_ basically
[11:27] <Warbo> taken from Paltalk licence
[11:27] <welshbyte> campbeld: no, Dapper Drake
[11:27] <erUSUL> Scarborough: sudo apt-get install soundconverter
[11:27] <qatsi> tarzeau: are you 100% sure my info isnt deleted ?
[11:27] <DewDude> Warbo: it's like most windows applications..you download the binary, you don't pay for it, they don't ask you for money...but you can't do anything with it except run it
[11:28] <DewDude> where as with free software you're allowed to modify the source to make changes
[11:28] <crimsun> campbeld: it's a milestone in the release cycle
[11:28] <welshbyte> campbeld: the flights are just snapshots of dapper in different stages of development
[11:28] <Warbo> Well I'm 17, so I'm not allowed to use Paltalk. Sorry georgedh :)
[11:28] <campbeld> thanks guys
[11:28] <crimsun> campbeld: we no longer do non-security bug fixes for Breezy; development is on Dapper.
[11:28] <DewDude> paltalk isn't worth the time
[11:28] <Scarborough> erUSUL: can I make my mp3s into ogg?
[11:28] <campbeld> ok I'll do that and get back to you sometime, it's not worth my time to do this i'll have to get a tech on to it
[11:28] <DewDude> Scarborough, you can..but why do you want to?
[11:28] <Warbo> DewDude: I know, I just wanted to see it in WINE
[11:28] <georgedh> oh Warbo sorry....  i thought the min age was 13.... oh well
[11:28] <DewDude> if they're mp3, keep them mp3
[11:29] <DewDude> it probably won't run
[11:29] <qatsi> tarzeau ??
[11:29] <enyc> Scarborough: you can but its probably not a good idea (loss in quality when reencoding lossy-lossy always is basically)  unless you have a _need_ to
[11:29] <campbeld> thankyou and i'll know it will get resolved one day
[11:29] <qatsi> can ayone confirm that when changing the id of the system, the information isnt lost ?
[11:29] <campbeld> maybe it's quicker if I just get a sound card that i know works
[11:29] <tarzeau> qatsi: yes
[11:29] <enyc> qatsi: ?id?
[11:29] <tarzeau> enyc: partition table type
[11:29] <welshbyte> "the id of the system" ?
[11:29] <tarzeau> welshbyte: no
[11:29] <qatsi> tarzeau: ok, i will trust you :)
[11:29] <DewDude> campbeld, most sound cards will work
[11:29] <tarzeau> qatsi: it also happened to me once
[11:30] <tolis__> someone answer me .. how can I write greek fonts in ubuntu ???
[11:30] <Bung> will, $ sudo apt-get install banshee, get all its dependencies?
[11:30] <qatsi> tarzeau: now i feel better, im not the only one :D
[11:30] <enyc> tarzeau: err that wont change anything but that value using  linux fdisk... but you should only do that if there is a mistake ;-)
[11:30] <campbeld> not my GT4810 which is Sound Blaster, it hought it'd be pretty common
[11:30] <welshbyte> tarzeau: that wasn't a yes/no question
[11:30] <tarzeau> enyc: i know
[11:30] <DoctorDyna> anybody know if breezy will pick up my linksys wireless pcmcia better than dapper does?
[11:30] <DewDude> tarzeau: did you lose a partition somewhere?
[11:31] <DewDude> DoctorDyna, i imagine drapper will pick it up better, provided it's a newer system..IF it's supported.
[11:31] <Warbo> Cool! Anyone bothered by the Mozilla ActiveX control thing in Wine? It gets it automatically now!
[11:31] <DoctorDyna> yeah, i thought that too, but it didnt work worth snot, i was just making sure
[11:31] <tarzeau> DewDude: yes
[11:31] <qatsi> tarzeau: why is taking so long with this: "Calling ioctl() to re-read partition table"  :S
[11:31] <tarzeau> DewDude: mkfs on a existing partition (ext2)
[11:31] <NickGarvey> I can't seem to get wireless to work with my HP zv6000 broadcom wireless card
[11:31] <Warbo> (Only problem is that my desktop has gone black (I thought my computer rebooted :))
[11:31] <DewDude> hrmmm
[11:31] <tarzeau> qatsi: that's normal
[11:32] <mwe> DoctorDyna: many cards will work with ndiswrapper and the windows driver
[11:32] <DewDude> you ran mkfs on ext2 and now it's gone?
[11:32] <qatsi> tarzeau: darn, if i loose all my files, im going to cry for a long time
[11:32] <welshbyte> DoctorDyna: i got rid of my linksys wireless card and bought a belkin one with a ralink chipset which has open drivers... it works great
[11:32] <NickGarvey> I get bcmwl5a         driver present, hardware present, when running ndiswrapper -l
[11:32] <DewDude> or what exactly?
[11:32] <tarzeau> qatsi: it's just files
[11:32] <NickGarvey> welshbyte: what kind of card is that? I am willing to buy a cheap new one for my laptop if it works
[11:32] <cyphase> who's seen the Firefox Flicks? http://www.firefoxflicks.com/
[11:32] <mwe> NickGarvey: are you using the recommended driver?
[11:32] <NickGarvey> cyphase: weeeeeeee SHUT UP!
[11:33] <Warbo> cyphase: I didn't bother watching any
[11:33] <NickGarvey> mwe: I have used severeal
[11:33] <qatsi> tarzeau: also time.....and 6,500 mp3's
[11:33] <DoctorDyna> welshbyte: i have a belkin wireless g plus card as well, will that work better?
[11:33] <NickGarvey> mwe: several*
[11:33] <mwe> NickGarvey: that message doesn't mean it's working
[11:33] <NickGarvey> mwe: ;) its not
[11:33] <tarzeau> qatsi: how large is the parititon?
[11:33] <thiago_> I'm with a little problem with the repositories. Synapitic isn't accessing them!
[11:33] <NickGarvey> mwe: here let me try the other one
[11:33] <cyphase> NickGarvey, definitely the funniest
[11:33] <mwe> NickGarvey: you should look up your card at ndiswrapper.sf.net and use the recommended driver
[11:33] <Warbo> thiago_: You are on the 'net?
[11:33] <mwe> NickGarvey: if you can find it
[11:33] <NickGarvey> mwe: I have
[11:33] <welshbyte> http://www.linuxemporium.co.uk/products/wireless/
[11:33] <mwe> NickGarvey: good
[11:34] <NickGarvey> mwe: I have the driver I believe, I have used a website that says it should work, but something just isn't
[11:34] <thiago_> warbo: what do you mean?
[11:34] <DewDude> tarzeau: provided you didn't wipe the partition...the data is still there..you just have to recreate the partition table
[11:34] <qatsi> tarzeau: 80GB
[11:34] <DewDude> and make sure it matches the original config.
[11:34] <mwe> NickGarvey: scan't ifconfig up the interface now?
[11:34] <Warbo> thiago_: You could be on a Windows/Other linux box. That's all.
[11:34] <DoctorDyna> welshbyte: thanks
[11:34] <tarzeau> DewDude: ehh, i know
[11:34] <Warbo> thiago_: Anyway, what happens? Does a message come up?
[11:34] <Brew-no> Does anyone know what checkinstall does or why I can't do it?
[11:34] <mwe> NickGarvey: if the ndiswrapper module is loaded
[11:34] <DewDude> Brew-no, did you install checkinstall?
[11:34] <mwe> Brew-no: breezy?
[11:35] <Brew-no> Yeah, Breezy
[11:35] <thiago_> Yes, it says that he can't access the repository
[11:35] <wayne_> quick question if ne1 can help.........
[11:35] <mwe> Brew-no: you should do the usual ./configure && make. then sudo checkinstall
[11:35] <wayne_> linux installed how do i change drive partition to make a partition for windows
[11:35] <alarsson> can't get minolta page pro 1300w to work in ubuntu 5.10
[11:35] <Warbo> thiago: What is the message exactly? Is it when it comes up or when you reload?
[11:35] <DewDude> Brew-no: sudo apt-get install checkinstall....configure, make, sudo checkinstall
[11:35] <DewDude> done.
[11:35] <NickGarvey> mwe: how do I tell if it is loaded?
[11:35] <mwe> NickGarvey: lsmod|grep ndis
[11:36] <Steff_breezy> Hi, I have a question concerning a script Im writing: The in the script some variables are definded. Then I want to pop up a new gnome terminal, executing a while - do funcition. I know the string "gnome terminal -x [application] ", but how do I open a new terminal with a while - do task?
[11:36] <qatsi> tarzeau: ok, its working on linux, it says i need to reboot to see the changes...so ill do that, and log in to windows to check if it works
[11:36] <DewDude> wayne: you have to partition the drive out before hand..did you set aside space for it?
[11:36] <NickGarvey> mwe: ndiswrapper           224192  0
[11:36] <wayne_> no i never
[11:36] <DewDude> or did you just install linux?
[11:36] <tarzeau> qatsi: you could also just mount it under linux?
[11:36] <wayne_> wasnt going to install
[11:36] <thiago_> Warbo: I'm using a system im portuguese. I don't know if I can translate it completely
[11:36] <wayne_> i just installed linux without paritions
[11:36] <mwe> NickGarvey: good. what does dmesg|grep ndis say?
[11:36] <Warbo> wayne_: Get KNOPPIX and boot from it. Use QTParted (in System Tools) to shrink Linux.
[11:36] <mwe> NickGarvey: any errors? if not what is the interface name?
[11:36] <crimsun> campbeld: still, it's best [for Ubuntu]  if you test at least dapper flight 6 (live cd would work, too)
[11:37] <Root_Of_All_Evil> is there a way to add files to the mplayer playlist using drag n drop ?  or another frontend than gmplayer which could make it possible????
[11:37] <georgedh> well thanks y'all for the help.. take care, and Happy Easter
[11:37] <Warbo> thiago: Oh. OK. When does the message come up? Is it when Synaptic loads? Have you tried using an Ubuntu CD?
[11:37] <Brew-no> Yay thanks mwe and DewDude!
[11:37] <wayne_> yer or ill just install windows xp tonight this isnt ma computer then add a new linux install multiboot when i get more time durin week
[11:37] <qatsi> tarzeau: the partition is mounted under linux and it works fine, but i cant read it while being in windows,  i thought it was the id that suddenly changed from 7 to 44, so my system would recognize it
[11:37] <wayne_> thanks peeps
[11:37] <NickGarvey> mwe: yes some errors, but I don't think those are for the current driver
[11:37] <campbeld> crimsun: yeah i know support the community and all that
[11:37] <NickGarvey> mwe: let me paste bin
[11:37] <tarzeau> qatsi: i see
[11:37] <campbeld> crimsun: i can't be certain when I can actually get it done though lol
[11:37] <qatsi> tarzeau: actually, Partition Magic 8 in windows said it was type 44, not readable by windows, so strange
[11:38] <crimsun> campbeld: are you on a broadband connection?
[11:38] <Brew-no> What's an EOF?
[11:38] <thiago_> Warbo: When it loads. It happens only for internet files (I can install the CD files)
[11:38] <mwe> Brew-no: end of file
[11:38] <qatsi> Brew-no: End of File
[11:38] <Brew-no> Oh, cool.
[11:38] <NickGarvey> mwe: http://pastebin.com/663796
[11:38] <campbeld> crimsun: yes, will i need to burn to CD?
[11:38] <crimsun> campbeld: yes
[11:38] <Warbo> thiago: OK, so APT itself is working. That's a start
[11:38] <Warbo> thiago: Have a look in the Settings > Repositories window
[11:39] <campbeld> crimsun: ok that puts another obstacle up, i'll have to install and configure cd burner, I'll get back to this once i've done that
[11:39] <mwe> NickGarvey: ok check /var/log/syslog too.
[11:39] <qatsi> tarzeau: ill be back with good/bad news, c ya
[11:39] <DewDude> tarzeau, never trust partition magic
[11:40] <NickGarvey> mwe: cat /var/log/syslog | grep ndis
[11:40] <NickGarvey> mwe: gives the same as dmesg
[11:40] <thiago_> Warbo: all repositories look all right, but when I press OK, I recieve a ton of error messeges
[11:41] <mwe> NickGarvey: hmm. it doesn't load. doesn't say much about why ...
[11:41] <NickGarvey> mwe: theres a little light... that won't go on
[11:41] <bmk789> how do i setup sendmail to use an smtp server?
[11:41] <NickGarvey> mwe: but I think those are different drivers
[11:41] <NickGarvey> mwe: notice the time difference
[11:41] <NickGarvey> mwe: at 700 it gives no errors
[11:41] <Warbo> thiago: Copy the location of one of them into Firefox, or maybe thry ping (just copy up to the ".com" or ".org" for ping, not directories)
[11:41] <Brew-no> How do I write a file in nano?
[11:41] <DewDude> thiago_, you got any backup copies of /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:41] <mwe> NickGarvey: oh yes
[11:42] <DewDude> Brew-no, nano <filename>
[11:42] <Warbo> Brew-no: Nano the file then Ctrl-X
[11:42] <thiago_> I think yes, the program creates them automaticaly
[11:42] <Warbo> Brew-no: After adding to it :)
[11:42] <DewDude> ctrl-o also saves the file
[11:42] <DewDude> thiago_, did you try restoring a backup and see what it does?
[11:42] <hbrednek> Synaptic tells me I must fix one broken package before it will do anything.  It then tells me I can use the "broken filter" to find it.  This does not seem to be true.  HOw do I go about finding the "broken package"?
[11:42] <Warbo> thiago: If you copy the location into Firefox then you should see an index list of the directories in that repository
[11:42] <mwe> NickGarvey: dmesg should say sth like wlan0: ndiswrapper ethernet device 00:0e:9b:a3:d4:58 using serialized driver foobar
[11:43] <thiago_> no, because I didn't chenge it at that time
[11:43] <DewDude> hrmm
[11:43] <Brew-no> it says "[ Error writing /home/bruno/.fluxbox/startup: No such file or directory ] 
[11:43] <Brew-no> "
[11:43] <NickGarvey> mwe: I think it looks at it as eth1
[11:43] <DewDude> i'd still try restoring a backup, and seeing what happens
[11:43] <mwe> NickGarvey: the interface might differ
[11:43] <DewDude> that or you're not running things as root
[11:43] <Warbo> thiago: What are you saying? The repositories don't work in Firefox? That means that you can't access them. Doesn't matter if they are default or not really, if you can't get at them
[11:43] <mwe> NickGarvey: it should still say that in dmesg
[11:44] <mwe> NickGarvey: can you sudo ifconfig eth1 up
[11:44] <thiago_> Warbo, the program says that this repository isn't more available: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz
[11:44] <rem_> hey.. Since I made the last upgrade which i noticed included kooka too, when i use kooka to scan it blocks at 99%. Has anyone had problems scanning since last upgrade ? how do you downgrade .. ?
[11:44] <NickGarvey> mwe: what should happen? nothing was printed to stdout
[11:44] <mwe> NickGarvey: thats a good sign
[11:44] <NickGarvey> mwe: oh no non
[11:44] <NickGarvey> mwe: its eth0
[11:44] <mwe> NickGarvey: ifconfig
[11:45] <thiago_> I didn't try with firefox yet
[11:45] <NickGarvey> mwe: SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such file or directory
[11:45] <Warbo> Will people stop typing? I'm trying to select some text :)
[11:45] <digitalwizdom> I'm a moron newbe with a veo Stringray webcam -device  manager picks it up on the usb -what linux software supports it?
[11:45] <mwe> NickGarvey: what are the numbers on what you pasted?
[11:45] <NickGarvey> mwe: what do you mean?
[11:45] <thiago_> I'm sure I,m running things as root
[11:45] <mwe> NickGarvey: the lines are prefixed by [  109.071142]  and so
[11:45] <hbrednek> Anyone know how to go about finding a "broken package"?
[11:46] <Warbo> thiago: OK, I can access it. What is the line in your repositories list?
[11:46] <NickGarvey> mwe: not from ifconfig eth0 up
[11:46] <Brew-no> How do I create a directory?
[11:46] <Warbo> thiago: If you aren't running as root I think it warns you
[11:46] <NickGarvey> mwe: http://pastebin.com/663813
[11:46] <Warbo> Brew-no: mkdir
[11:46] <thiago_> Warbo: what do you mean (I'm kind of a noob)
[11:47] <mwe> NickGarvey: that's not it then
[11:47] <Warbo> thiago: Well if you run Synaptic from the menu you will be asked for your password. If you run it straight from a terminal with no "suso" then it will be run as a normal user and you will get a warning
[11:47] <NickGarvey> mwe: oh? let me check then
[11:47] <mwe> NickGarvey: ifconfig eth1 up didn't complain. what does iwconfig say?
[11:47] <Warbo> "sudo" sorry, not "suso"
[11:47] <Henry_Bean> hi
[11:47] <hbrednek> Anyone know how to go about finding a "broken package"?
[11:48] <thiago_> I ran it from the menu, and it asked my password
[11:48] <mwe> NickGarvey: I'm thinking it's not working since dmesg doesn't contain what it should
[11:48] <Henry_Bean> anyone know which is the mount point of a palm in dapper?
[11:48] <NickGarvey> mwe: http://pastebin.com/663821
[11:48] <Warbo> thiago: OK, get into a terminal for a sec and run "cat /etc/apt/sources.list | grep "deb"" without the quotes on either end (but with the ones on deb)
[11:49] <Brew-no> What's GDM?
[11:49] <Warbo> thiago: If that gives far too much info then grep "http" instead
[11:49] <NickGarvey> Brew-no: gnome display manager
[11:49] <NickGarvey> Brew-no: its the screen that shows up that asks you to log in
[11:49] <NickGarvey> !gdm
[11:49] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, NickGarvey
[11:49] <Warbo> Brew-no: Manages your X and your session
[11:49] <mwe> NickGarvey: well that looks promising
[11:49] <NickGarvey> !gdm is gnome display manager
[11:49] <Brew-no> Awesome.
[11:49] <ubotu> okay, NickGarvey
[11:49] <NickGarvey> mwe: okie
[11:49] <thiago_> Warbo: I just tried again. It downloaded part of the list (there are just ~4000 programs available). Trying the terminal now
[11:50] <[t0rc] > later
[11:50] <NickGarvey> mwe: should I try a reboot?
[11:50] <Brew-no> I think I'm finished then, two hour and my first compiled and installed wm!
[11:50] <NickGarvey> I want this little light to go on.. the wireless light
[11:50] <alarsson> does anyone know how get minolta pagepro1300w to function properly i kubuntu 5.10?
[11:50] <thiago_> Warbo: Ok, did it
[11:50] <mwe> NickGarvey: you should figure out why ndiswrapper is not saying what it should
[11:50] <GarethMB> evening all
[11:50] <Warbo> thiago: There are not too many things in regular Ubuntu, but I can tell you how to access more cool stuff later via Universe if you want. Lets focus on getting it working first :)
[11:50] <NickGarvey> mwe: what should it say?
[11:50] <SioN> hi
[11:50] <Warbo> thiago: OK, what are the web addresses EXACTLY?
[11:51] <Warbo> thiago: the http://archive...... bits
[11:51] <NickGarvey> mwe: try looking at this...
[11:51] <mwe> NickGarvey: dmesg should say sth like wlan0: ndiswrapper ethernet device 00:0e:9b:a3:d4:58 using serialized driver foobar
[11:51] <Warbo> (don't folow that, it;s not a real link :))
[11:51] <NickGarvey> http://pastebin.com/663827
[11:51] <mwe> NickGarvey: different interface maybe
[11:51] <AngryElf> does anyone know a command line option to make xine start at the main menu?
[11:51] <fredl> ick, I'm screwed....
[11:51] <thiago_> I had activated Universe and Multiverse before, that's just what isn't working
[11:51] <digitalwizdom> mine says ra0
[11:51] <NickGarvey> mwe: mm nothing like that though
[11:52] <mwe> NickGarvey: what are all the numerical prefixes?
[11:52] <mwe> NickGarvey: it's not working though
[11:52] <digitalwizdom> i have ubuntu 5.10 i386
[11:52] <NickGarvey> mwe: I printed it all, no numerical prefixes..
[11:52] <mwe> NickGarvey: what are the [ xxxx ]  numbers?
[11:53] <thiago_> Warbo: There are 10 links, some "go" to multiverse or universe
[11:53] <Warbo> thiagothiago: Basically you gave me a link before to a Packages.gz file, so I'm making sure your repositories are entered in properly, not straight to a Packages.gz file
[11:53] <mwe> NickGarvey: it looks like you're also using another driver
[11:53] <digitalwizdom> linksys wmp54g wireless ralink chip set
[11:53] <mwe> NickGarvey: are you?
[11:53] <fredl> apparently xserver-xorg 7.0.0 broke something here
[11:53] <digitalwizdom> ra2500
[11:54] <fredl> weirdest thing is, I can start up X simply by typing X so it would appear everything works
[11:54] <NickGarvey> mwe: I didn't change anything, thats what it said
[11:54] <NickGarvey> mwe: what kind of driver should I be using? thats the one a website said to use
[11:54] <fredl> anybody else having problems with X?
[11:54] <mwe> NickGarvey: dmesg is outputting [ xxx ]  prefixes?
[11:54] <NickGarvey> mwe: it is
[11:54] <mwe> NickGarvey: oh
[11:54] <Warbo> thiago: You only really need a couple of lines in your repositories list. Here's mine (but I'm on dapper, so change dapper to breezy if you use it) "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe main restricted multiverse"
[11:54] <NickGarvey> mwe: its the broadcom driver, everything says that
[11:54] <thiago_> Warbo: none of the links "go" to a .gz file
[11:55] <mwe> NickGarvey: odd mine is not. never saw that before
[11:55] <mwe> NickGarvey: yes
[11:55] <digitalwizdom> ubuntu works fine at setup with the linksys wmp54g at setup
[11:55] <mwe> NickGarvey: but is it related to ndiswrapper?
[11:55] <Warbo> thiago: I only have that, a security.ubuntu one and marillat
[11:55] <mwe> NickGarvey: it doesn't say
[11:55] <NickGarvey> mwe: do you know of a usb wireless device that works out of the box?
[11:55] <mwe> NickGarvey: not really. I think you can get this to work though
[11:55] <NickGarvey> mwe: its a laptop so nothing else than that
[11:55] <nEVA> cannot install madwifi
[11:56] <NickGarvey> mwe: okie I'll keep trying, seems like other people did, they said the site but it hasn't worked for me
[11:56] <fredl> could anybody do me a favor and search for this message: dlopen: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libGLcore.so: undefined symbol: __glXLastContext
[11:56] <mwe> NickGarvey: are you using the driver they recommend?
[11:56] <acuster> Hey all, anyone else have a non functional xchat?
[11:56] <acuster> for  a few weeks now
[11:57] <thiago_> Warbo, the other lines are more or less like this, but have parts like 'restricted' and 'backports'. Here is one: # deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security universe
[11:57] <NickGarvey> mwe: yes, I downloaded the link they had, I am not using ndiswrapper 1.5 rc2 though...
[11:57] <themachine> why do some packages in a repository need the Ubuntu CD to install?
[11:57] <NickGarvey> mwe: http://tinyurl.com/88vys thats the link
[11:57] <Warbo> thiago: OK, that's a source repository and it isn't enabled (it has a # before it). Try going out of Synaptic and running "sudo apt-get update" in a terminal
[11:57] <fredl> please help, I feel lost when X doesn't work :(
[11:58] <acuster> some issue with gail tree view
[11:58] <mwe> NickGarvey: which one there?
[11:58] <nickrud> themachine, because you have the cd rom listed in your sources.list, so apt goes there first for a deb
[11:58] <Warbo> fredl: Are you using nvidia driver? There is no GLCore in it (except for very new one)
[11:58] <mwe> NickGarvey: the ndiswrapper note?
[11:58] <themachine> ah
[11:58] <thiago_> Warbo, the same errors appeared
[11:59] <mwe> NickGarvey: is it 64bit?
[11:59] <fredl> Warbo - yeah I'm using the nvidia driver...
[11:59] <fredl> Warbo - so should I just take it out of the xorg.conf??
[11:59] <Warbo> fredl: What version? One in Ubuntu or downloaded yourself (I had a little trouble with the latest one)
[11:59] <blindx> does gimp have a "free transform" tool?
[11:59] <fredl> Warbo - the one in Ubuntu
[11:59] <antisocial_boris> what command removes directories and the files in them
[12:00] <antisocial_boris> ?
[12:00] <mwe> NickGarvey: what does lsmod|grep bcm say? anything?
[12:00] <Warbo> thiago: Are the messages in English in the terminal, or can you set the locale to English temporarily for me :)
[12:00] <vars> when will we be able to play flash 8 files on a linux machine?
[12:00] <nickrud> antisocial_boris, rm -r <directory>