[12:07] Lure: packages are on the testing repo [12:09] should we advertise them to people in bugs? [12:11] Lure: I think you can ;) [12:11] packages may receive only very minor changes now [12:12] do you plan to add pptp too? [12:15] hum.... [12:15] don't know [12:15] isn't that going to double the stuff with kppp ? [12:17] Lure: and is knetworkmanager able to handle that ? since it is designed to use the yast ppp features === chavo [n=chavo@68.235.250.234] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:17] good question... but not much of code anyway in knm, so I suspect it depends on n-m [12:18] Lure: I think both ubuntu and kubuntu have good softwares to work with ppp/pptp actually [12:19] so that can be differed to dapper+1 maybe.. [12:20] probably yes, I just wanted to point out as VPN support in n-m is seens as all three of them... === kmon leaves [12:41] good night everyone [12:41] good nite === seth [n=seth@ubuntu/member/seth] has joined #kubuntu-devel === poningru [n=poningru@n128-227-50-237.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #kubuntu-devel === poningru [n=poningru@n128-227-50-237.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neoncode [n=neoncode@88-107-157-20.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === marseillai_ [n=marseill@AMarseille-153-1-35-57.w86-197.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hendry [n=hendry@222.106.128.78] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neoncode [n=neoncode@88-107-157-20.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === claydoh [n=clay@bb-66-63-105-137.gwi.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === robotgeek [i=venkat@ubuntu/member/robotgeek] has joined #kubuntu-devel === yuriy [n=yuriy@209-6-87-175.c3-0.frm-ubr3.sbo-frm.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === claydoh [n=clay@bb-66-63-105-137.gwi.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === robotgeek_away [n=robotgee@ubuntu/member/robotgeek] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger [n=tobias@p54A611C7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === \sh [n=shermann@ubuntu/member/backslash-sh] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel === \sh [n=shermann@ubuntu/member/backslash-sh] has joined #kubuntu-devel === \sh [n=shermann@ubuntu/member/backslash-sh] has joined #kubuntu-devel === \sh [n=shermann@ubuntu/member/backslash-sh] has joined #kubuntu-devel === sredna [n=anders@kde/developer/alund] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.36] has joined #kubuntu-devel === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === \sh [n=shermann@ubuntu/member/backslash-sh] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:58] <\sh> hmmm..does anyone has a compilable knetworkmanager package? :) [09:59] \sh: what, the one in universe or main? [09:59] \sh: it's in universe nw [09:59] <\sh> knetworkmanager cant be installed [10:00] network-manager-kde [10:00] <\sh> grmpf [10:00] <\sh> what a name [10:00] hehe [10:01] to fit in with network-manager-gnome [10:01] confusing though [10:02] <\sh> well...the naming scheme is useless, when the programm is named knetworkmanager [10:02] true [10:02] <\sh> well, there should be a meta package with network-manager-kde and the real package knetworkmanager [10:03] <\sh> which makes more sense in my POV [10:04] \sh: that's sound well [10:05] <\sh> I'll file a bug report... === OdyX [n=Didier@8.Red-80-33-64.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:10] <\sh> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/knetworkmanager/+bug/39842 [10:10] Malone bug 39842 in knetworkmanager "Totally useless naming convention" [Wishlist,Unconfirmed] [10:10] Lure: ping === jpatrick [n=patrick@ubuntu/member/jpatrick] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:16] Hobbsee: pong [10:17] Lure: see previous stuff - your domain, is it not? [10:17] Lure: tried to split the beagle package yesterday; result vritual impossible [10:17] \sh - we just follow Debian on this [10:18] <\sh> is debian the answer? I don't think so :) [10:18] There are many n-m packages and they all have common n-m prefix [10:19] \sh - Riddell told us to follow debian as much as possible, so we did [10:19] <\sh> yes, but if you are searching the web, you won't find any network-manager-kde stuff...so the most logical way is apt-get install knetworkmanager :) [10:19] \sh - I will talk with Riddell what to do about [10:19] I have to run now... ;-) [10:20] <\sh> I know the rationals :) yes...but from a user perspective it's quite better to have a meta package with the original name === kwwii [n=kwwii@likes.smoking.more.than.watching.spacenight.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:27] moin [10:28] hi kwwii [10:28] nice hostname [10:28] ;-) [10:28] lol [10:30] Riddell: did you get my mail with the boot images? === OdyX [n=Didier@8.Red-80-33-64.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === LeeJunFan_ [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === LeeJunFan__ [n=junfan@64.186.37.120] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:38] hey all ;) [11:39] Tonio_: hi [11:40] \sh: just read your email concerning knetworkmanager.... I must say your opinion on this is nice ;) [11:41] I'm just working on the package on that point [11:41] hi [11:42] hey jpatrick:) === jwork123nl [n=john@g213171.upc-g.chello.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:43] kwwii: yep [11:44] <\sh> Tonio_: well...I just read about it while I was searching for a kde frontend for network manager, found knetworkmanager, checked revu, tried apt-get install knetworkmanager, no package available... [11:44] \sh: that's true :) [11:45] <\sh> Tonio_: so, from the users perspective, there should be a meta package with the original name of the application, and not with a "oh we have to follow debian and gnome stuff" [11:45] \sh: should work now, fancy looking at the package structure ? [11:45] I'm not very used to build transitionnal packages :) [11:45] <\sh> just an entry in the control file :) [11:45] \sh: yes, but anyway, I like people to look at my work before uploading :) [11:45] let me pastebin [11:45] <\sh> btw..the revu package is not buildable in the moment, right? [11:46] http://pastebin.com/664641 [11:46] can you just look at this :) [11:46] \sh: the revu package is completly outdated ;) [11:47] <\sh> jepp...that's it...but the long description should mention the naming convention [11:47] <\sh> and it's not a transitional package :) [11:48] <\sh> more a meta package :) [11:48] yup, that's was just to build, I now have to clean descs ;) [11:50] Metapackage installing knetworkmanager, designed to fit with the [11:50] network-manager components naming convention [11:50] is that better ? [11:51] <\sh> yepp [11:51] <\sh> and amarok is somewhat ill and broken arg [11:52] <\sh> it should reread the asound.conf file every time it's started [11:52] <\sh> or well, it's the xine engine [11:52] \sh: which version ? [11:53] <\sh> any version:) [11:53] hehe [11:54] <\sh> troubles with the headset...after reboot it's there..when I unplug it, it's not there anymore, so I have to change asoundrc to match new defaults [11:54] <\sh> or change the xine engine settings in amarok, which I can't because no default card :) which was my headset [11:55] weird.... === Tonio_ uploading knetworkmanager to universe === kwwii takes his son to the zoo...bbl === kwwii [n=kwwii@likes.smoking.more.than.watching.spacenight.dk] has left #kubuntu-devel [] === pygi [n=pygi@83-131-246-128.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:12] Tonio_: knetorkmanager deb file? :) === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:15] pygi: yes [12:15] and network-manager-kde is now a metapackage depending it [12:15] much better [12:15] it's not knetorkmanager for sure ) :) [12:15] hu ? [12:16] where did I do that name error ? [12:16] the list :) [12:16] ho !!! [12:16] btw. Happy Easter :) [12:16] sorry for this ;) you may have understood by yourself ;) [12:16] yes, I know, just wanted to joke you around :) [12:16] pygi: I'm not catholic, but happy easter too ;) [12:17] ah, sorry then Tonio_ :) [12:19] pygi: no pb ;) [12:19] that doesn't prevent me from eating chocolate ;) [12:19] but to me easter isn't more than eating chocolate eggs ;) === pygi_ [n=pygi@83.131.234.83] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:21] <\sh> thx Tonio_ :) [12:21] \sh: for what ? [12:21] knm ? === doelman [n=doelman@dsl-46015.solcon.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:25] <\sh> Tonio_: for the fastest bugclosing ever :) [12:25] \sh: lol :) [12:26] :) [12:27] I noticed bogofilter isn't installed by default anymore....... [12:28] should we ship it automatically to make it easier for users to configure kmail propperly ? [12:28] Tonio_: it was under Breezy, huh? [12:29] Tonio_: I think we should. [12:29] OdyX: that's my feeling too :) [12:29] Riddell: ping ? [12:30] well I'm going to add a note for the next kubuntu meeting on that point ;) [12:30] Tonio_: which is planned in 10 days, huh ? [12:30] yup [12:32] Tonio_: where do I sign up for the meeting? [12:32] pygi: sign up? you turn up,,, [12:32] pygi: simply come ;) [12:32] will do =P === pygi = sleepy :) [12:33] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/Meetings [12:33] Tonio_: UTC = GMT ? [12:33] yup [12:34] apt-get moo [12:34] joy, middle of night :P [12:34] hehe :) [12:34] just discovered this ;) [12:34] go greenwich!!! === Huahua [n=hua_@221.172.51.135] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:36] aptitude moo works too ;) [12:36] as aptitude -v moo, aptitu -vv, moo aptitude -vvv moo [12:36] they have time for this.......... hehe === jwork123nl [n=john@g213171.upc-g.chello.nl] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Kopete] [12:37] Tonio_: un lphant qui se fait manger par un serpent ? [12:37] :D [12:38] OdyX: ;) [12:45] \sh: I was thinking about file association [12:45] \sh: actually, the latest package installed is prior to others, and the result is kaffeine opens audio files by default [12:46] \sh: do you think I should change this to open them with amarok ? In my opinion that's better [12:46] <\sh> well, for audio files amarok should be the default [12:48] \sh: I'm implementing this in k-d-s [12:48] will be done in 15 minutes [12:49] \sh: the problem is that package is the one on which I spend most of my time, and I can't upload it myself............ [12:49] <\sh> I can't upload it either :) === Huahua is now known as kiweed === kiweed is now known as kiweee [01:11] \sh: sent the debdiff to Riddell, we have to wait for upload now ;) [01:11] \sh: any idea who may I ping for main inclusion reports ? [01:11] we have lots of them waiting....... [01:12] <\sh> kamion or mdz :) [01:12] Tonio_: seems you'd apply for core-dev [01:13] freeflying: I'm wau too light for this :) [01:13] way [01:13] freeflying: depends who is managing the meeting ;) [01:13] hehe [01:14] freeflying: for example raphink didn't have mdz to face him when he subscribed ;) [01:14] freeflying: but as far as I know, when mdz is there.............. it is not really easy ;) [01:14] Tonio_: :) [01:14] I would be ridiculous ;) [01:14] \sh: isn't it ? ;) [01:15] \sh: as you did it, you may know better than I do :) [01:15] <\sh> na it's ok :) mdz is doing the right thing to interview the candidates correctly :) [01:16] \sh: I didn't say it wasn't nice ;) I was just saying that I would be ridiculous if I tried ;) [01:16] \sh: core-dev required knowledge I don't have, honnestly [01:16] Tonio_: why don't you have a try , maybe it will be easier [01:17] \sh: unless I have some chance ;) raphink for example didn't have ANY question when he applyed as core-dev ;) [01:17] freeflying: maybe in a few month, but honnestly, my place is in MOTU actually ;) [01:17] I am one of the most actives kubuntu-devs [01:17] and that's fine ;) [01:17] I don't need more [01:18] Tonio_: kubuntu team need more [01:18] unless there is a real need for new core-devs [01:18] freeflying: that is true. but not pressure him [01:18] s/not/dont [01:18] freeflying: I may ask Riddell(s opinion on this [01:18] <\sh> Tonio_: then he was lucky that day :) === OdyX votes for Tonio_. ! [01:18] Hobbsee: Tonio_ is the right candidate for kubuntu now [01:18] I think I need to spend a few weeks reading the debian policy and reading docs on debhelper first [01:19] true [01:19] my packaging skills are too limited [01:19] and I'm not a developper [01:19] so if I can't code, I need to at least be a better packager that I am [01:19] Tonio_: ++ [01:19] I contribute a lot, but on easy stuff... [01:20] \sh: your opinion ? [01:20] also kubuntu need more MOTUs [01:20] raphink already told me about trying to apply for core-dev [01:20] according to him, if he is core-dev, there is no reason I'm not [01:20] but honnestly, I may not have the chance he had when he applyede ;) [01:21] no Kamion, no mdz, no elmo :) [01:21] that will not hapen everyday :) [01:21] Lure: ping? [01:21] freeflying: I agree it needs more motus :) [01:21] Tonio_: just have a try [01:22] freeflying: maybe in 3 month...... [01:22] I will then have no job, and time to prepare for this [01:22] but I don't want to bet on chance and saying "I hope kamion and mdz will not be there" [01:22] if I do it, I wanna be ready for this ;) [01:23] I took my time to become member, and same for motu :) [01:23] heh, I apply twice , then got approved [01:24] I was approved first time, but that was special :) [01:24] for example for motu, I had a hudge package list, that helped [01:25] I would prefer kubuntu to get more motus than another coredev ;) [01:25] that's prior in my opinion [01:25] also core-dev [01:26] there are 2 actually. should be enough till dapper is out [01:26] then we'll see ;) [01:26] _Sime: ping ? [01:26] when will beta out ? [01:27] freeflying: wendesday or thursday [01:27] I'd have a test on ppc [01:29] freeflying: are you motu ? [01:29] Tonio_: ya [01:30] cool ;) [01:30] though you were still a member only [01:32] Tonio_: "member only" ? [01:32] OdyX: ubuntu member [01:32] first grade when motu is another one ;) [01:32] Tonio_: possible to be Ubuntu member without being MOTU ? [01:32] you need to be a member to become a motu [01:32] OK... [01:32] and you need to be a motu to become a core-dev [01:32] which is the higher grade [01:32] had not understood it like that... [01:33] OK. === OdyX has a lot of work to be at least member... === Hobbsee wouldnt want motu status yet... [01:33] and which those guys force myself to try to apply ^^ ;) [01:33] Hobbsee: why ? === Hobbsee needs to figure out how stuff works yet! [01:33] Tonio_: you are member, aren't ya ? [01:33] Hobbsee <3 [01:33] whops [01:33] OdyX: I'm a mamber, a motu and a kubuntu-dev [01:33] Tonio_: i still have problems with the packages - undersatnding shlib depends and all that...and working more with debhelper, etc [01:33] but not a core-dev [01:34] Tonio_: god... [01:34] OdyX: you can check launchpad people's page to see the groups they are members of [01:34] Tonio_: :D [01:34] Tonio_: OK [01:34] hm [01:34] https://launchpad.net/people/tonio [01:34] here is my page for example ;) [01:34] I'm member of nothing? [01:35] Tonio_: You should have some more Karma ... [01:35] hehe [01:35] https://launchpad.net/people/jussi-kekkonen [01:35] OdyX: well, karma doesn't mean anything [01:36] look, I'm very active ;) [01:36] Tonio_: I know.. perfectly well.. [01:36] :D [01:36] Tonio_: now that really doesnt seem right - the karma, that is [01:36] a bug comment brings lots of karma, when a package doesn't....... [01:36] https://launchpad.net/people/tonio/+packages [01:36] Tonio_: check out mine versus yours - that's nuts... [01:36] this, for example, didn't bring me any karma point ;) [01:36] Tonio_: I know... raphink ever showed me that === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.36] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:36] you ought to have way more than i do... [01:37] the best way to get more karma is making translation still, which is of course important, but can't be compared to packaging, since is can be done way faster and easier === Hobbsee admires all the pretty little icons... [01:37] that's true [01:37] Tonio_: bug tracking gives a lot too... [01:37] Hobbsee: look at raphink's page........ he has a nice collection too :) [01:37] OdyX: yes, true ;) [01:37] just that they really should give points for packaging stuff ;) [01:37] and so he should [01:38] Tonio_: but raphink creates "artifical groups" :D [01:38] !!! === OdyX is joking. [01:38] OdyX: hehe [01:38] Tonio_: like translation team in papamiento... [01:38] :D [01:38] I wonder anyone here wanna apply for motu [01:38] I don't mean it is unuseful... but pretty fin [01:38] s/fin/fun [01:39] freeflying: I would, but in two years, after lot of learning [01:39] freeflying: Hobbsee should in my opinion [01:39] Tonio_: no way, not yet... === Hobbsee has uni stuff, anyway, unforutnately... [01:39] OdyX: two years is quite long [01:39] that's why i wasnt going for membership for a while - didnt know how much i'd be able to contribute [01:40] OdyX: member doesn't require much stuff [01:40] OdyX: nice contribution is enough [01:40] freeflying: I just don't know were to begin.. I want to learn, but don't know how [01:40] Hobbsee: actrually, you've contributed lots [01:40] unfortunately, i was away just before UVF hit, so i lost a couple of weeks then...and there's not much point packaging now [01:40] freeflying: yes, but not packaging wise [01:40] Hobbsee: I actually upload at least 2 PACKAGE PER DAY ;) [01:40] OdyX: everyone here would like help you also #ubuntu-motu [01:40] oups sorry [01:41] hehe [01:41] bug correction, uvf exceptions etc...... there is so much to do [01:41] Tonio_: I know there's a lot... but don't feel having capabilities... [01:41] hard to know what to do though - and a lot of bugs i've set to need info, and no one comes back with hnfo... [01:41] s/capa.../habilities.. [01:41] *info [01:41] Hobbsee: but to upload a new ubuntu version of a package, it is required to be a motu....... here is the issue ;) [01:42] Hobbsee: I even reported much but not getting feedback... [01:42] mind you, there's a lovely list of bugs in kdebase, which needs looking iat [01:42] *at === Hobbsee really cant spell tonight! [01:42] OdyX: ask Riddell the abilities I had when I started contributing one year ago......... it was ridiculous === Hobbsee has had a very dodgy day, and that's thrown everything off! [01:42] Tonio_: You're just Window's king... === Hobbsee mutters about silly people reversing into me, up a one way street... [01:42] OdyX: how do you know that ? :) [01:43] yes, my mastering isn't on linux still, but on windows :) [01:43] Tonio_: I'm HoPHP... Dolphins... you know... [01:43] XD [01:43] OdyX: ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh [01:43] Tonio_: that is true. and i'm kinda happy having other people check what i do [01:43] Tonio_: changed nick. [01:43] Tonio_: that one is better, though :D [01:43] so yes, I know windows way better than linux........; drives me nuts sometimes......... [01:44] Tonio_: like spending whole life on proprietary stuff ? [01:44] :D [01:45] not hole life, but well.... I learned informatics in a microsoft learning center for 2 years.......... that helps ;) [01:45] then I worked as a junior sysadmin, and then senior [01:45] so it'll take time before my linux knowledge reach the same level [01:46] Tonio_: but your's even better than mine [01:46] OdyX: not sure :) [01:46] Tonio_: you package, I don't... [01:47] OdyX: doesn't mean you don't know the system better than I do for example ;) [01:47] Tonio_: sure :D === OdyX feels good :D [01:48] heher [01:48] time to eat ;) seya [01:48] Seeya === jjesse [n=jjesse@mail.ftpb.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === caleb- [n=caleb@219-84-15-89-adsl-tpe.STATIC.so-net.net.tw] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:18] freeflying: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2286 # gcin uploaded with comments [02:21] caleb-: I'll revu this afternoon [02:21] Tonio_: Thank you. :-) [02:22] caleb-: no pb ;) [02:22] caleb-: how about using a .desktopfile instead if menu ? [02:23] freeflying: upstream has desktop file in /usr/share/applications and /usr/share/control-center-2.0/capplets [02:23] caleb-: shouldn't it be /usr/share/applications/kde [02:23] ? [02:24] caleb-: then we needn't provide menu [02:24] Tonio_: oops...It is different between Debian and Ubuntu? [02:25] caleb-: well.... to me kde apps have to sit in /kde/ folder...... [02:25] sounds logic [02:25] caleb-: and why add locels to Suggests [02:25] isn't that a kde application ? (I didn't look at the sources...) [02:25] Tonio_: gcin is not kde apps... [02:25] caleb-: sorry then ;) [02:26] freeflying: upstream has menus...should I remove them? [02:26] Hey people... Does somebody know WHY ON HELL we do have to translate Koffice again in Launchpad ? [02:26] caleb-: you use part of long description in short section [02:26] freeflying: Uh...xcin suggests locales...so... === sebas rubs his eyes. [02:26] OdyX: wtf [02:27] Tm_T: take a look here: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/dapper/+source/koffice/+pots/koffice/fr/+translate?show=untranslated [02:27] 813 missing.. [02:27] OdyX: no, not wtf for that, wtf that red, flashy text [02:27] OdyX: what did you think of doing that [02:27] OdyX: looks like the actual translations aren't imported correctly....... [02:27] oh why you burn my eyes?! [02:27] Tm_T: angry.. :D (did not appear on my Konvi) [02:28] Tm_T: sorry for that. Won't make it again. [02:28] caleb-: besides these , nice to me [02:28] OdyX: please never do that again [02:28] ok [02:28] Tm_T: registered Chef. [02:28] ;) [02:28] Tonio_: so what? should I upload *.po's from kde's svn ? [02:28] =) [02:28] Tonio_: or wait for... [02:28] OdyX: wait for revolution in france === Tm_T hides [02:30] Tm_T: this doesn't touch me any... I'm no french. :D [02:30] OdyX: probably wait for kde implmentation in launchpad gets better ;) [02:30] it is on the way [02:30] OdyX: again colours... please [02:30] Tm_T: cannot play with you ? [02:30] :D [02:30] OdyX: people get killed for less [02:30] Tonio_: I asked in #launchpad, but no answer... [02:31] Tm_T: s/killed/kicked ? [02:31] OdyX: There might be people reading this who do not see very well. [02:31] OdyX: killed [02:31] OdyX: I prefer large axe [02:31] So you're basically taking away their possibility to reading the text. [02:31] OdyX: and no, I don't use sharp end, that would be too easy end... ] ;= [02:32] sebas: hum... argument is OK... but unapplicable here... [02:32] Why? [02:32] Did you make sure not badly-sighted people are on IRC? :P [02:32] because it is (or should be) desactivable... [02:32] Maybe not for clients that have the accessibility features? [02:33] Anyway, it's *very* bad practice. [02:33] And probably the easiest way to annoy people on IRC. [02:33] sebas: I'm very conscient of that, and made it twice: first generally (did not appear on MY screen) and then just for Tm_T who, afaik has no problems... [02:34] sebas: anyway... this does not solve my problem of having to translate Koffice [02:34] OdyX: has no problems for what? [02:35] Tm_T: for reading text in red... [02:35] OdyX: I do have problems with your use of colours [02:35] OdyX: and yes, because it was flashing, it was really hard to read [02:35] Tm_T: do you use Konversation ? [02:35] no [02:35] Tm_T: OK... [02:35] Tonio_: any comments on gcin? [02:36] http://kapsi.fi/tm_travolta/kuvat/temp/colours-01.png [02:36] OdyX: look [02:36] doesn't look nice [02:36] ;( [02:37] Hm, now seeing the screenshot, I didn't even notice the message after "no" [02:38] :p [02:38] sebas: yeah, you can't see it if you have black background [02:38] I've very dark background, and all text set to pretty light colors. [02:38] ugh [02:38] I used to have that way [02:39] as it appeared here: http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/1563/capture13vo.png [02:39] Ow well, I should just switch my color setup and wait for the next one to do colors. :/ [02:39] haha [02:39] Tm_T: I now understand... but as you see... every line with my name is in red, so one word in red did not seem too much... [02:40] und underlining did not appear... [02:40] Uhm, OdyX The colors *do* get rendered on your screen that way. [02:40] OdyX: see? playing with colours is not good idea [02:40] Albeit not the backgrounded ones === OdyX has understood for at least 30 lines and ever said he won't do it again. [02:40] hehe === OdyX can still debate, even without seeing interest. [02:41] no you can't === OdyX [n=Didier@8.Red-80-33-64.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Konversation] [02:41] :o [02:41] oh well [02:41] coffee -> === allee [n=ach@dialin-145-254-255-030.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === OculusAquilae [n=oculus@pD9509A2A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === OdyX [n=Didier@8.Red-80-33-64.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:49] Hi again. [02:50] hi OdyX [02:50] no manual entry for configure...odd... === sredna [n=anders@kde/developer/alund] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:58] freeflying: about gcin, I'll revu later [02:58] Tonio_: rhx [02:59] freeflying: my girlfriend just called me, and she'll be there tomorrow [02:59] Tonio_: it's nice to you heh [02:59] if she sees my flat as it is actually, I think I'm gonna get killed....... [02:59] hehe [02:59] I need to clean it......... [02:59] she likes clean stuff, hey? [03:00] Hobbsee: she like "normal" stuff [03:00] :P [03:00] but my flat is actually.............. hum.......... any idea of what hell can look like ? === Tonio_ cleaning......... === OdyX gives some mental help to Tonio_ [03:01] merci copain !!!!!!! [03:01] :D === OdyX is happy not to have any girlfriend AT THE MOMENT, as the state of his room is... wel... [03:01] hehe === Hobbsee is happy not to have a girlfriend all the time! [03:02] lol [03:02] Hobbsee: geek !!! :D [03:02] OdyX: probably that too - but the reason in particular: i'm female [03:02] :P [03:02] Hobbsee: don't you like clean stuff?heh [03:03] freeflying: my mother is a clean freak - each and everytime i cant find something in here, it's cos she's "cleaned" everything... [03:03] it's rather annoying :P [03:03]