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liambascially if I type start X I get an X session with a mouse pointer which I can move but it lasts say half a second12:05
liamtehn it quits on me12:05
calliehmmm i guess you're better off speaking to someone who really knows ATI drivers, i've never even had one before :(12:05
liamI assuem that it is trying to start kde which failes so tehn it quits12:05
liamcallie: you have nvidia?12:06
callieliam, yeah12:06
liamI think the bastard nv drivers got installed when I apt-get upgraded12:06
liamcan you give me the nv driver pacjkage name so that I can have a look12:07
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callieunless you're trying to use them i dont think that will hurt12:07
liamyou're right it shouldn't hurt12:07
liam(I was part of the DRI project in non-coding psotion a few years back)12:08
liamman this is kinda embarrasing...12:08
callielol12:08
liam<g>12:08
liamI make my living by being a *nix admin...12:08
liambut this has got me stumped12:09
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liamgive me a meaningful erorr message please... :-)12:09
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jindiazhey anyone use k3b for buring here?12:11
apokryphosyup12:11
callieyup12:11
jindiazdo yu guys have issues with the burn speed yu set, and the actual burn speed shown in bottom left while buring?12:11
apokryphosit is the default burner in KDE/Kubuntu :P12:11
liamk3b rocks12:11
apokryphosjindiaz: nope12:11
liamwhen you can use get to it ;-)12:12
liamjindiaz: define issue?12:12
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jindiazcrap....... i having a difference of 20x, and its pissing me off12:12
robertsaDoes anyone know how to disable the GTK-QT theme engine?12:12
liamso what are you choosing?12:12
liamadn what are you getting?12:12
jindiazwell, i set the thing to burn at 40sx, just cause, and it says the actual burn speed is like 16x12:12
apokryphosI just set to auto12:13
liamwouldn't stress about that12:13
callierobertsa, system settings >> appearance12:13
jindiazguys.... 16x, wouldnt stressss... that speed is like,,, slow as hell12:13
liam40x refers to the max speed your writer can write at i.e. the outer edge of the CD, ath eht inner edge it can only do 24X12:13
liamthen it needs time to spin up...12:13
jindiazthe thing is, it burns at a steady 16x the whole way12:14
jindiazand my max is 52 btw12:14
robertsacallie: I saw that, but it's not obvious what settings will disable the GTK-QT theme engine12:14
jindiazbut my other is max at 40, so i need it to be there12:14
liamteh 40X I was referring to was the numebr you gave above ;-)12:14
jindiazlol, well yah, it needs to burn at 4012:15
jindiazaight ill try the next one at auto, see how it goes12:15
jindiazbrb12:15
liam24 is mac at the inner edge of the disk - if the disk were spun faster to enable higher write spsed multiple sof 150KB/s it could cause the disc to break...12:15
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jindiazyo.... wow this is messed, on auto it started burning at 11735597x speed12:18
jindiazthen it says going to 52x12:18
jindiazand STYLL is burning at 16x!!!!!!!!12:18
jindiazARGH!12:18
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jindiazso any ideas boys?12:19
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jindiazanyone?12:21
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liamcallie: googling on the kdm_greet error throughs up a few links12:23
MachineScrewRiddell: you here12:24
MachineScrewany one help Riddell with Kubuntu12:25
MachineScrewor is he by himself12:25
chavohe is one of a few12:25
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MachineScrewlike a lead dev for kubuntu12:26
chavoyes12:26
MachineScrewok12:26
MachineScrewbut not as many work on kubuntu as Ubuntu right ?12:26
chavonot quite, but they help when kubuntu needs help12:26
MachineScrewmind u I am only talking about the UI and backends for the UI12:27
MachineScrewcool12:27
chavothere's an excellent interview with riddell here http://behindubuntu.org/interviews/JonathanRiddell/12:27
MachineScrewfonts look worse in Dapper i need to check if i have antialaisng12:28
MachineScrewya I read it12:28
MachineScrew12hrs now thats insane12:28
MachineScrewand dedication12:28
chavofonts look awesome here, but I have tweaked my .fonts.conf12:28
MachineScrewoh12:28
MachineScrewyou using the default font12:29
chavobitstream vera sans12:29
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MachineScrewstill it dosn't look right in apps12:30
MachineScrewvery jagy12:30
MachineScrewi didn't have sub pixel hinting12:30
MachineScrewon12:30
MachineScrewbut I turned it on12:30
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MachineScrewas well I am doing an update for 207 pkgs12:31
MachineScrewso maybe things improve12:31
MachineScrewI like kubuntu12:32
MachineScrewand Adept has come a long way12:32
chavoMachineScrew, http://2sdw.com/konvi.png12:32
MachineScrewok mine dosn't look like that12:33
chavoMachineScrew, here's my .fonts.conf http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/66391812:34
jindiazsoooo no one on the k3b issue huh?12:34
chavojindiaz, it could be the cds?12:35
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MachineScrewchavo: http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c383/satempler/konvimacscrw.png12:36
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jindiazuhhh no, they are all 52x12:36
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chavoMachineScrew, yeah looks pretty jaggy there12:36
MachineScrewwhere do I put this12:37
chavoput it in your home directory12:37
MachineScrewok and if I want it global12:37
chavo~/.fonts.conf12:37
MachineScrewwould that be in /etc somthing12:38
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chavoin /etc/fonts/local.conf12:38
MachineScrewok12:39
MachineScrewthanks12:40
chavono problem12:40
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MachineScrewmuch better12:42
MachineScrewdamn12:42
MachineScrewyou need to hand that file to Riddell lol12:42
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chavoyeah the fonts look awesome, way better than any other OS :)12:46
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djk_chavo: and fonts have what to do with an OS?12:48
jindiazanyone in here on an nvidia vid card and uses the nvidia console and nvidia tv options in here????12:48
Nomad411What do people use for PDFs, I find I have to use Acrobat reader, the other readers just give me a hard time, is that right?12:49
chavoit's not the fonts it's the rendering12:49
djk_Nomad411: kghostview12:49
jindiazno one is on nvidia vid cards!?  no wayyyy...12:51
djk_chavo: and what does the rendering have to do with an OS?12:51
chavowell they have different font renderers12:52
chavoand the setup I'm using now renders the bitstream vera sans font better than the others do, in my eyes12:52
chavowhy you writing a book? go to google.com12:52
djk_?12:53
chavohttp://google.com12:53
djk_really.12:53
chavoyeah it's great source of information12:54
chavowell not really a source, but an index12:54
djk_maybe you should go there and find out what does the rendering and what does not (hint: the OS does not)12:54
chavodjk_, maybe you should get out of your basement and get some sun12:55
jindiazargh.. neone with an nvidia 6600gt card??12:55
jindiazne one12:55
djk_lol12:55
jindiaz?12:55
chavojindiaz, yes i have that card12:55
jindiazREALLY!?12:55
jindiazNICEEEEEEEE12:55
jindiazok maybe yu can help me out here12:55
jindiazdo yu use the console for using your card and the tv console?12:56
chavono tv out here12:56
jindiazlol, ok well the console then12:56
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jindiazlike, when yu search nvidia in adept, the two last options are for the console, and tv options12:56
jindiazi think yu have to have everything enabled though12:57
djk_chavo: you do realize that you are agreeing to the fact that you know shit, don't you?12:57
jindiazbut yah, so yu can change the resolutions, see the temperasture, etc etc12:57
jindiazchavo: did yu insatll that???12:57
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chavodjk_, I was simplifying for the person I was talking too at the time.12:58
Poprockshey all, does kubuntu have a KDE frontend to sudo that it uses?12:58
chavoI don't care what you think I know or don't know.12:58
chavoPoprocks, kdesu12:58
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jindiazok, chavo and djk_ fight later...  chavo plzzzzzzzzz help me on this one12:59
chavoI could know absolutely nothing but that doesn't take away my right to talk and express myself.12:59
jindiazlol12:59
Poprockschavo: isn't that just for su though, and not sudo?12:59
jindiazno kdesu is sudo as well01:00
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djk_chavo: i don't think you don't know. it's obvious you don't. maybe you should get out of the sun, into your basement and learn something ;)01:00
MachineScrewdjk_: the OS dosn't its part Xorg and Part KDE01:00
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chavoPoprocks, it's been modified to work with sudo and kubuntu01:00
jindiazwell im pretty shure it is, cause ive done it befroe needing sudo and it worked01:00
djk_MachineScrew: no shit sherlock.01:00
MachineScrewand both those are spacific to Linux01:00
MachineScrewand other unix01:00
Poprockschavo: ok thanks01:00
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MachineScrewthere for it can be said that the fonts on Linux look better thant other OS's01:01
chavoHis mom didn't bake him cookies today so he needs to lash out.01:01
djk_MachineScrew: no it can't be said.01:01
jindiazgod damn it, chavo stop fighting with them!  tell me!!!!!!!!01:01
jindiazhahahahaha01:01
chavojindiaz, sorry hold on a sec01:01
MachineScrewdjk_: so don't give people shit for not being spacific01:01
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MachineScrewdjk_: and yes it can be said that way because most new users don't look at linux in parts like we do01:02
chavodjk_, I was just celebrating the fact that the fonts look great on Linux.01:02
djk_MachineScrew: specific. and I wasn't.01:02
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jindiazchavo: SWEET!  thanks man.  the thing is i REALLY need to get that console up.  cause yah ive tried editing it thru x, and it wlaway reverts back to whatever it wants on restart01:03
chavoFor a long time font rendering on Linux was horrible.01:03
MachineScrewdjk_: and yes you where01:03
jindiazand the thing is, im using a widescreen 19inch lcd, so yah, this is like very much so needed01:03
MachineScrew <djk_> chavo: i don't think you don't know. it's obvious you don't. maybe you should get out of the sun, into your basement and learn something ;)01:04
chavojindiaz, I'm not quite sure what you're trying to do.01:04
MachineScrewthats giving peotple shi01:04
MachineScrewt01:04
MachineScrewdamn01:04
MachineScrewit01:04
MachineScrewI am having a bad typeing day01:04
chavoWell I'm in a shit giving mood today anyway, so I'm not trying to be mean.01:05
MachineScrewadded to that I can't spell worth a damn01:05
djk_MachineScrew: were. and nice. maybe you might copy the chavos part before that as well, thus realizing I was replying.01:05
chavoI'm just a very sarcastic person.01:05
MachineScrewdjk_: look I am not into a pissing contest here01:06
jindiazummmm ok, when seraching in adept, search for "nvidia"  the two last options are consoles yu can use to monitor temperature and adjust the setting of your nvidia card.  and the other is for tv.  have yu installed these????01:06
djk_MachineScrew: then leave your package where it belongs.01:06
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jindiazmaybeeeeee MachineScrew and djk_ could help?????01:07
jindiazlol01:07
chavojindiaz, nvidia-settings?01:07
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liamcallie: cheers and thanks man01:08
MachineScrewdjk_: I have long conversations with my girlfriend about being too damned specific and correcting me on every thing it was a genralization get off it if some one had a specific problem with the fonts that needed to know if it was kde or X then thats another story but we all know what he was talking about01:08
liamI"m going to try xdm instead of kdm...01:08
jindiazYES!!!!!!!!!  and the other is nvtv01:08
jindiazchavo: do yu have them installed!?01:08
jindiazerm, the first one anyways?01:08
chavoSometimes in conversation, getting to specific can be bad. Especially when you're typing sucks.01:08
djk_MachineScrew: I'm glad your relationship with your girlfriend is going well.01:09
chavoI have nvidia-settings01:09
MachineScrewdjk_: yep thanks its going great01:09
jindiazok ok cool, mine is installed, but i cannot for the life of me find, where is it on your pc?01:09
jindiazchavo: ok ok cool, mine is installed, but i cannot for the life of me find, where is it on your pc?01:09
MachineScrewbought her a game the other day01:10
chavojust run it from the command line or run box - nvidia-settings01:10
MachineScrewand she comes to the lug with we on her own I don't drag her loves linux and would run Kubuntu if her system is faster01:10
jindiazAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH01:11
jindiazIC!!!!!!!!01:11
jindiazthanks man!01:11
jindiazand omg these setting SUC01:11
jindiazlol01:11
jindiazwhere is everything else!?01:11
MachineScrewthe is the girl of my dreams djk_01:12
djk_as long as you don't wake up it's all just swell, isn't it01:12
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MachineScrewdjk_: you don't get it do you01:12
jindiazargh... well that was pointless....01:12
chavooops running nvidia-settings took out xorg, be careful01:13
MachineScrewdjk_: now you are dicking with me get the hell out of this chat if you are going to be that way01:13
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djk_MachineScrew: not a friend of figure of speech I see. maybe you are the one who doesn't "get it", get it?01:19
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MachineScrewwell yes a friend but not a fan01:19
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DoctorDyna*sigh*01:29
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stodgeWhat extra repos do I add for Kubuntu Breezy?01:46
stodgeOr what's the link to the sources?01:46
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stodge!info msttcorefonts01:47
ubotumsttcorefonts: (Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts), section multiverse/x11, is optional. Version: 1.2ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 21 kB, Installed size: 164 kB01:47
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salguerohola02:02
elijahlofgrensalguero: howdy02:02
salgueroq tal02:02
jindiazanyone using aMsn here?02:02
salgueroI not speak englis02:03
jindiazor rather, more importantly, how do i use a linux-installer.bin?02:03
elijahlofgrensalguero: Mexico? Try #ubuntu-mx02:03
salgueroI speke spanies02:04
salguero espaa02:04
elijahlofgrensalguero:  Try02:04
elijahlofgren#ubuntu-es02:04
elijahlofgren #kubuntu-es02:04
salguerokubuntu 5.1002:04
salguero-es02:05
salgueroiI use amsn02:05
salguerowere your from?02:06
elijahlofgrensalguero: Try joining the Ubuntu Spanish channel. Type: /join #ubuntu-es02:06
salguerozens02:06
elijahlofgrenjindiaz: Are you trying to just install amsn?02:08
salgueroyes02:08
salguerowere your from ?02:08
jindiazysh02:08
jindiazerm, yah02:08
jindiazthe adept one is out of date02:09
jindiazand need to upgrade,02:09
jindiazso dled the new version,02:09
elijahlofgrenjindiaz: What version are you trying to install?02:09
jindiazim assuming installer would be easiest02:09
jindiaz0.9502:09
elijahlofgrenjindiaz: You could upgrade to Dapper Drake. It has amsn 0.95. See: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/x11/amsn02:10
jindiazuhhh nooo, thats not really an option at this time02:10
karldude the .bin use it like this02:10
karlopen a shell02:10
karland type02:10
karlsudo chmod +x blabla.bin02:10
karlso u give execution permission to it02:11
karland then just type02:11
karl./blabla.bin02:11
karland that's it02:11
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jindiazreally!?02:11
jindiazswank....02:11
jindiazok one sec02:11
salguerojump/ kubuntu-es02:12
elijahlofgrenjindiaz: I would use a deb if I could though to make upgrading and uninstalling easier. Amsn has an Ubuntu package. Download here: http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/amsn/amsn_0.95-3.ubuntu.deb02:12
salguerozenk your good bye02:13
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jindiazi dont knoe how to install .deb files02:14
elijahlofgrenjindiaz: It's easy: sudo dpkg -i nameof-file.deb02:15
elijahlofgrenjindiaz: Or right click on it in Konqueror and choose "install package"02:15
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elijahlofgrenjindiaz: Actually it's "Right Click on package file -> Kubuntu Package Menu -> Install Package"02:16
jindiazyah, tried that, found it out, which is sweet way fo doing it, but it didnt work02:16
jindiazlol02:16
elijahlofgrenjindiaz: What didn't work?02:17
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jindiazit says in bothe termianl and conquered,r stauts is locked by another program02:18
qalimasIs there a way to remaster the Kubuntu live cd?02:18
jindiazerrrrrrrrrm02:18
elijahlofgrenjindiaz: Just close adept if you have it open.02:18
jindiazstatus database area is locked by another process02:18
jindiazfrig....02:18
jindiazlol02:18
jindiazforgot abt that02:18
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jindiazok looks like it worked02:19
jindiazone sec02:19
callieanyone know how to reset my 'account in KDE so it goes back to the default apperance?02:19
qalimasIs there a guide to making a live cd from a customized Kubuntu 5.10 install?02:19
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jindiazyah it installed aight02:20
jindiazhey one question02:20
elijahlofgrencallie: What appearances do you want reset? colors, titles, every KDE config?02:21
jindiazyu knoe how after yu install from adept, and to get into that app yu have to run it through the command prompt to pull it up, how do yu create shortcuts?02:21
callieelijahlofgren, the whole thing02:21
elijahlofgrenjindiaz: On the desktop: "Right click -> Choose "Create New -> Link to Application"02:22
jindiazomg, the font looks absoloutely horrible...02:22
elijahlofgrencallie: You could delete your ~/.kde folder but I would just rename it and then log in and out.02:22
callieelijahlofgren, thanks02:22
elijahlofgrencallie: You're welcome.02:23
jindiazelijahlofgren: when doing the shortcut, where would the app be?  apparently i have to map it out here02:24
elijahlofgrenjindiaz: I would click on the "Application" tab and put "amsn" in the "Command:" blank02:25
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jindiazelijahlofgren: lol, yah i did that, but i styll cant click ok02:26
jindiazoooooooooo02:27
jindiazomg, nvm....02:27
jindiazi didnt give it a title, thats why02:27
jindiazhahaha02:27
elijahlofgrenjindiaz: Ok, lol. :)02:27
jindiazo new, all shortcuts look like that?  how do yu modify the icon?02:28
elijahlofgrenjindiaz: Right click on the icon and choose "Properties". Now click on the icon next to the title02:30
elijahlofgrenjindiaz: You should then be shown a list of icons to choose from.02:30
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neoncodeAre their any gudes on seting up a TV-in card?02:42
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jindiazelijahlofgren: cool, thanks man.  sry had a phone call there02:43
elijahlofgrenneoncode: Maybe these will help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=155584&highlight=tv+card and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=106713&highlight=tv+card02:48
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elijahlofgrenneoncode: Maybe this also: http://www.google.com/search?q=+site:www.ubuntuforums.org+tv+card02:49
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Draevencan anyone tell me why every time I try to enable my wireless nic in Dapper, it immediately disables?  Its a BCM4318 and the kernel module is loaded02:51
elijahlofgrenDraeven: how are you enabling it?02:52
Draeventhru network configuration in system settins02:52
elijahlofgrenmaybe try: sudo ifup wlan0 (or whatever the name of the interface is)02:53
MachineScrewyay I repoted my first bug02:54
DraevenI get this error when I do that: Ignoring unknown interface eth1=eth1.02:54
neoncodeelijahlofgren: Thank you02:55
MachineScrewDraeven: do sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces02:55
MachineScrewthat is where your problem exists02:55
Draevenit's not listed in there - so configure it from there?02:56
MachineScrewso is it a wlan0 or eth002:56
Draevenno, my wired SiS900 is eth002:56
MachineScrewok and the wireless is eth1 or wlan002:56
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Draeventhen just /etc/init.d/network restart?02:57
MachineScrewDraeven: when you configure it through the gui you have to hit apply before activating02:58
MachineScrewbut ya02:58
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MachineScrewDraeven: hows it workn'02:59
Draevenit's not02:59
MachineScrewok03:00
MachineScrewone sec03:00
MachineScrewhttp://kubuntu.pastebin.com/664147 copy and paste from auto ath1 to the end change ath1 to eth1 and change the ssid03:01
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MachineScrewif you have not configured the ethernet card then it shouldn't be in there03:02
MachineScrewthen sudo /etc/init.d/network restart03:02
DraevenI think it's a matter of it trying to use the kernel driver instead of ndiswrapper03:03
DraevenI found an article in the forums - going thru it right new03:03
Draevennow03:03
MachineScrewok03:03
MachineScrewand you shure the kernel driver works03:03
MachineScrewlight come on03:03
MachineScrewor messages about the device pop up in /var/log/messages03:04
MachineScrewif not you can use the same config file for ndiswrapper just change it to wlan003:05
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MachineScrewDraeven: so whats happening03:08
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MachineScrewChris_Tucker: liked you in Rush Hour ;)03:10
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patrixhey all03:10
patrixI can't login with KDM since about 2 weeks03:10
patrixthe only clue I have is my .xsession-errors saying03:10
patrixNo profile for user 'patrix' found03:10
Chris_TuckerMachineScrew, er, well email my other personality... im not black03:10
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MachineScrewok03:11
Chris_Tuckeri need to change my user@host to say nottheactor@whatever03:11
MachineScrewlol03:11
MachineScrewdo /nick nottheactor03:11
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Chris_TuckerMachineScrew, er, not what i meant03:11
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Chris_Tucker<-- my real name, im not obsessed with the actor, its my literal real name03:12
MachineScrewright i got ya03:12
MachineScrewI was joking03:12
MachineScrewfirst it would be realy wierd that guy using a computer much less linux03:13
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MachineScrewtroy: LMAO03:13
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elijahlofgren:( I wish people would stay around longer after asking their questions. I had probably just found the fix for patrix's problem.03:14
MachineScrewwhats relly funny my lug leader has a son named Joshua03:14
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MachineScrewnm03:15
MachineScrewChris_Tucker: you want a gmail invite03:15
Ze_Mwhere is possible to bwrose for kubuntu official specs?03:16
Chris_TuckerMachineScrew, i have about 300 already, i think i can manage ;)03:17
elijahlofgrenZe_M: What kind of specs?03:17
MachineScrewok03:17
Ze_Melijahlofgren: what kind of specs? are there severall?!03:17
MachineScrewZe_M: what do you meen03:17
Ze_Mspec files03:18
Ze_Mhow do you do a rpm withpout a spec?!03:18
MachineScrewZe_M: ubuntu dosn't have spec files03:18
Ze_Mubuntu doesnt have rpms?03:18
elijahlofgrenZe_M: Ah, are you wanting to make Kubuntu packages?03:18
MachineScrewZe_M: no they use debian packages03:18
elijahlofgrenZe_M: It uses "debs" instead.03:18
Ze_Mi thought kubuntu and ubuntu used rpms03:19
CheeseBurgerManNope. :)03:19
Ze_Mok03:19
MachineScrewZe_M: no it would be slower package management03:19
Ze_MMachineScrew: dont see how03:19
MachineScrewyum and YaST take too much time03:19
elijahlofgrenZe_M: No, Ubuntu is based of Debian so it uses "debs" like Debian does. Other distros like Red Hat etc. use rpms.03:20
MachineScrewapt-get and synaptic are much faster03:20
Ze_Mwhat that have to do witu yum and yast?03:20
jindiazhey elijahlofgren yu styll here?03:20
MachineScrewyum and yast are the rpm based package managers03:20
elijahlofgrenjindiaz: yes03:21
Ze_MMachineScrew: really? ehehhehe03:21
MachineScrewyep03:21
jindiazelijahlofgren: cool, got a question, where are the system sounds stored?03:21
Ze_Mwell i see that i have wrong all these years eheheheh03:21
jindiazyu seem to knoe this stuff, so figure id just get straight answers03:21
MachineScrewZe_M: so what dose the spec file do that you need now03:21
jindiaztrying to configure everything03:21
MachineScrewZe_M: may be I can find an equivalent03:22
Ze_MMachineScrew: u still have along way to go03:22
Ze_Mwell nite all03:22
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elijahlofgrenjindiaz: looks like here: /usr/share/sounds/03:22
jindiazniceeeeeeeee perfect, thanks man03:23
elijahlofgrenjindiaz: You're welcome. :)03:24
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jindiazelijahlofgren: yu cant copy sound files into that folder??? whut gives?03:28
fernando_hi I have installed Dapper, looks excellent! But how can I install Azureus?03:29
elijahlofgrenjindiaz: It's owned by root. You can either chown it to be owned by you or copy things into it using "sudo cp somesonds.wav /usr/share/sounds"03:30
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troyor use konqueror in super-user mode03:30
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salguerohola03:31
jindiazhmmmm... ok, how do i use konquere in sudo?03:31
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Ferdinand98324hi there03:32
elijahlofgrenfernando_: Check out http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=14454603:32
Ferdinand98324I was looking in google, but I don't know...where's located the "cache" where the files are stored when I'm using the "adept" for downloading new packages ??03:32
elijahlofgrenjindiaz: sudo konqueror03:33
elijahlofgrenFerdinand98324: In /var/cache/apt/archives03:33
Ferdinand98324thanks elijah03:33
fernando_elijahlofgren: thanx, I'll start now03:33
Ferdinand98324gotta check it03:33
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elijahlofgrenfernando_: And instead of "gedit" use "kate". ;)03:34
nrdbI was wondering if anyone knowns if it is posible to get a Cannon i850 printer to work under Linux?03:34
fernando_ok03:34
Ferdinand98324or nano03:35
elijahlofgrennrdb: Googling it now....03:35
elijahlofgrennrdb: Looks like it is. Check out http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=+site:www.ubuntuforums.org+Canon+i850+linux03:36
nrdbelijahlofgren: certainly looks like it will work, picked up what looks like a good printer someone was thowing out, looks like all that was wrong with it is it had a small piece of papper jammed in it. :)03:39
elijahlofgrennrdb: LOL, cool. :)03:39
jindiazelijahlofgren: hmmm, how do i access my files when using sudo konquere????03:40
elijahlofgrenjindiaz: Go to /home/yourusername ;)03:41
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jindiazelijahlofgren: ahhhhhhhh ic ic, ok now it worked03:44
jindiaz:)03:44
elijahlofgrenjindiaz: Cool. Glad it did.03:45
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jindiazhey guys where are the logs of these convos stored again??03:58
jindiazneed to ref on fdisk procedure form one of them03:58
elijahlofgrenjindiaz: Are you using Konversation?03:58
jindiazyah man03:58
fernando_i like dapper a lot, VLC is much much better with the qt look03:58
jindiazi remebr it was somewhere easy, like usr or sumthyn03:58
elijahlofgrenjindiaz: Here: /home/elijahlofgren/.kde/share/apps/konversation/logs/03:59
elijahlofgrenOpps. I meant ~/.kde/share/apps/konversation/logs/03:59
jindiazlol, ok maybe not... hahahahah03:59
jindiazcool, thanks man03:59
elijahlofgrenfernando_: Yeah, with Dapper they have gtk2-engines-gtk-qt installed by default.04:00
elijahlofgrenjindiaz: You're welcome.04:00
fernando_and Firefox is fast now, not like in breezy, and updated xD04:00
elijahlofgrenfernando_: Yeah, that's one of the reasons I switched to Dapper early.04:00
fernando_and the music app Listen is cool too04:01
elijahlofgrenfernando_: I've never heard of "Listen".04:02
fernando_elijjahlofgren: download it, it's great, like amaroK but stable04:02
fernando_you can read lyrics and Wiki and a stuff04:03
fernando_my amaroK here in Dapper is not working, don't know why04:03
elijahlofgrenfernando_: Checking it out now... http://listengnome.free.fr/04:04
fernando_elijahlofgren: cool, try it, I think you'll like it04:05
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elijahlofgrenfernando_: Looks cool. I'll may try it out if I ever start listening to music on the computer. Thanks for telling me about it.04:06
jindiaz~/.kde/share/apps/konversation/logs/04:06
fernando_elijahlofgren: no problem04:06
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ExcaliBerHi04:42
CheeseBurgerManhello04:42
ExcaliBerWhen i finish installin the kde for ubuntu do i have to create a user name?04:43
ExcaliBeror use the ubuntu one?04:43
ExcaliBerto login?04:43
CheeseBurgerManUse the ubuntu one04:43
ExcaliBeroh ok04:43
ExcaliBerthank you04:43
CheeseBurgerManNP04:43
ExcaliBercause im installing the kde04:43
ExcaliBeris it sweet?04:43
CheeseBurgerManYes. :P04:43
ExcaliBercan you change the resolution?04:43
elijahlofgrenExcaliBer: I like it better than Gnome. :)04:43
ExcaliBerto 1024x768?04:43
ExcaliBercool04:44
CheeseBurgerManExcaliBer: I'd imagine. I've not actually had to change my resolution though04:44
elijahlofgrenExcaliBer: You're wanting to lower it right?04:44
ExcaliBeri have a 800x600 lcd monitor04:44
ExcaliBerin ubuntu it looks nice and small04:44
robotgeekExcaliBer, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:44
ExcaliBerlike 1024x76804:44
ExcaliBeris that for kubuntu terminal or ubuntu?04:45
CheeseBurgerManBoth04:45
robotgeekExcaliBer: both ubuntu and kubuntu use the same base system, only differ in desktop environments04:45
ExcaliBerso what does the command do?04:46
ExcaliBerchanges the resolution?04:46
ExcaliBerlowers it?04:46
ExcaliBerso how do i make kde work?04:46
ExcaliBeri finished installing it just now04:47
ExcaliBerjust log off?04:47
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ExcaliBerand log back on?04:47
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elijahlofgrenExcaliBer: You log out and the choose "KDE" for you login session from the login menu.04:47
ExcaliBeroh ok04:47
ExcaliBeri brb04:47
Ferdinand98324I'm having a problem upgrading from KDE 3.4.3 to KDE 3.5.X04:48
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Ferdinand98324I had downloaded all the required files for 3.5.2 but I get a "broke" error04:48
Ferdinand98324with a required file, so, I deleted all the cache04:48
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Ferdinand98324I mean .../apt/archive04:49
thompahow do i check cpu temp or see lmsensors?04:49
elijahlofgrenFerdinand98324: Are you on breezy or dapper? What is the exact error you are getting?04:49
Ferdinand98324but now when I run adept I get an error04:49
Ferdinand98324breezy04:49
robotgeekFerdinand98324: mimetype error?04:49
Ferdinand98324nope, I think is because I delete manually all the files..04:49
Ferdinand98324"there was ab error downloading updates"04:50
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ExcaliBerhey04:50
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ExcaliBerim on kde04:50
ExcaliBerits gorgeus04:50
thompao got kde system guard showing temp.04:50
robotgeekFerdinand98324: hmm, try "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" in a terminal04:50
elijahlofgrenExcaliBer: I agree.04:51
ExcaliBeris it still debian?04:51
thompait says acpi thrm: temperature.04:51
ExcaliBeror rpm?04:51
thompais that cpu?04:51
thompayes04:51
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elijahlofgrenExcaliBer: sorta. It uses Debs like Debian. But Ubuntu changes some configs and things.04:51
robotgeekExcaliBer: yes, still debian based04:51
thompaits apt-get04:51
ExcaliBercool04:51
ExcaliBeri love it04:51
ExcaliBerits better than ubuntu04:52
ExcaliBerwell i think it is04:52
Ferdinand98324root@cyrus:~# sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade04:52
Ferdinand98324E: Archive directory /var/cache/apt/archives/partial is missing.04:52
ExcaliBerto me it is04:52
cgeHow do I set up konqueror to use my home directory as the desktop? Symbolic links (Desktop -> /home/$USER) don't appear to work as they do in GNOME.04:52
thompagnome is real nice, but im just used to kde from years ago04:52
thompawhere is ksensors?04:52
elijahlofgrenFerdinand98324: try sudo mkdir  /var/cache/apt/archives/partial04:52
robotgeekFerdinand98324: hmm, you deleted the directory manually?04:52
Ferdinand98324yup04:52
Ferdinand98324can I send those red messages without registration ;) ?04:53
Ferdinand98324robotgeek, yup04:53
ExcaliBerhow do i learn almost everything about kubuntu?04:53
ExcaliBerlike all the thing si need to learn?04:53
cgeFerdinand98324: yes, just create the directory again. I've done that before.04:53
ExcaliBeri know alot about ubuntu so far04:53
thompaare you running stable or dapper?04:53
ExcaliBerme?04:53
thompayes04:53
ExcaliBeri dont know04:53
Ferdinand98324cge, done04:53
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ExcaliBerdoes this have sound?04:54
ExcaliBerkde?04:54
robotgeekExcaliBer: sure, try System Settings -> Sound04:54
elijahlofgrenExcaliBer: for learning maybe check out http://www.kubuntu.org/documentation.php and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu04:54
yuriyExcalibur: if you already know how to use ubuntu, you're all set. just think the same thing, but prettier an more useable and more configurable04:54
CheeseBurgerManExcaliBer: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/ http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ http://www.kubuntuforums.org/ irc://irc.freenode.net/kubuntu http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kf1.html04:54
Ferdinand98324ok04:54
Ferdinand98324elija...04:54
robotgeekExcaliBer: breezy/dapper?04:54
Ferdinand98324i have a big file04:54
ExcaliBerlol thanks yuriy04:54
thompaor try putting a cd in04:55
Ferdinand98324how can I show u that?04:55
ExcaliBerwhat do you mean robot?04:55
robotgeekExcaliBer: if you don't know, you are probably running breezy (v 5.10)04:55
elijahlofgrenExcaliBer: Also check out http://www.google.com/search?q=kubuntu+tips04:55
Ferdinand98324Err ftp://bolugftp.uni-bonn.de breezy/main Packages04:55
Ferdinand98324  Unable to fetch file, server said 'Failed to open file.  '04:55
Ferdinand98324Fetched 380B in 5s (68B/s)04:55
Ferdinand98324Failed to fetch ftp://bolugftp.uni-bonn.de/pub/kde/stable/3.5.1/kubuntu/dists/breezy/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Unable to fetch file, server said 'Failed to open file.  '04:55
Ferdinand98324Reading package lists... Done04:55
thompaim running the sort of preview of the next release04:55
Ferdinand98324W: GPG error: http://kubuntu.org breezy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY A506E6D4DD4D508804:55
Ferdinand98324W: GPG error: http://kubuntu.org breezy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY A506E6D4DD4D508804:55
ExcaliBerwtd?04:56
Ferdinand98324(sorry)04:56
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ExcaliBerNo problem.=D04:56
robotgeekFerdinand98324: please do read the topic.04:56
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thompamailny because of special hardware i have to run dapper,04:56
Ferdinand98324sorry04:56
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robotgeekFerdinand98324, don't paste in here. Please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org04:56
ExcaliBerhow do i test my sound?04:56
elijahlofgrenFerdinand98324: If I were you I'd use KDE 3.5.2 instead of 3.5.1 see: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-352.php04:56
ExcaliBersound system?04:57
thompaput something in04:57
Ferdinand98324elija04:57
thompaor look olwer right for kmixer04:57
Ferdinand98324I was trying to upgrade from those repositories04:57
Ferdinand98324but...I get an error04:57
elijahlofgrenExcaliBer: Go to "K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound and Multimedia -> Click "Test sound" button.04:57
Ferdinand98324about a broke link04:57
ExcaliBerOk the sound works04:57
ExcaliBerYeah i figure out things fast.04:58
ExcaliBer= )04:58
Ferdinand98324do I need to upgrade to 3.5.1 before 3.5.2?04:58
robotgeekFerdinand98324: nope04:58
Ferdinand98324or can I pass from 3.4.3 to 3.5.2 under breezy?04:58
elijahlofgrenFerdinand98324: No. I would try the http://kubuntu.org/ mirror instead of the ftp://bolugftp.uni-bonn.de one.04:58
Ferdinand98324let me put all the files once again in the archives dir04:59
Ferdinand98324I have 700 MB aprox. but one file is corrupt04:59
Ferdinand98324give me a sec04:59
Ferdinand98324please04:59
Ferdinand98324I used that server and ftp.kde.org/pub/stable/3.5.205:02
ExcaliBer"i felt the hate rise up in me"05:02
ExcaliBer"kneel down and clear the stone of leaves"05:03
elijahlofgrenFerdinand98324: I don't think you should put that. It should be like "deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde352 breezy main" in /etc/apt/sources.list05:03
ExcaliBer"i wonder out where you can't see"05:03
ExcaliBer"inside my shell i wait and bleed"05:03
ExcaliBerlol05:03
ExcaliBerI like slipknot.05:03
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elijahlofgrenGoodnight all. Goodbye.05:04
ExcaliBerGoodnight05:04
ExcaliBeri wonder why aim never wants ti work on wine05:04
ExcaliBerim testing it out05:04
Ferdinand98324Elijah, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1241605:05
Ferdinand98324panic05:05
Ferdinand98324elijah left05:05
ExcaliBerhey i just need a little help with the totem movie player05:05
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ExcaliBerthis is the error i get05:06
ExcaliBerTotem could not play 'file:///home/suspect/Desktop/wait.rm'.05:06
CheeseBurgerManFerdinand98324: Did you add the jriddell key05:07
ExcaliBerThanks robotgeek05:07
Ferdinand98324nope05:07
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Ferdinand98324Cheese, how can I do that?05:07
CheeseBurgerManThat's the problem.05:07
Ferdinand98324is that important?05:07
CheeseBurgerManYes05:07
CheeseBurgerManwget http://people.ubuntu.com/~jriddell/kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg05:07
CheeseBurgerMan sudo apt-key add kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg05:07
Ferdinand98324I got the .deb packages without that but I get some broke bug...05:07
Ferdinand98324I'm doing that..05:08
Ferdinand98324gpg: can't open `kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg': No such file or directory05:08
Ferdinand98324so...05:08
Ferdinand98324where should be that file?05:08
CheeseBurgerManIt should be wherever you download it to. (probably ~)05:09
ExcaliBerWhat file?05:09
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ExcaliBerHey the video still doesn't work05:09
robotgeekExcaliBer: do you have kaffeine-xine installed?05:10
CheeseBurgerManPherdinand: Did you download it?05:10
ExcaliBerMedia Player (Kaffeine)?05:10
robotgeekExcaliBer: please "sudo apt-get install kaffeine-xine"05:11
ExcaliBerThank you.05:11
Pherdinandgpg: no ultimately trusted keys found05:11
PherdinandI got that message05:11
ExcaliBerOk it finished installing05:12
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CheeseBurgerManPherdinand: OK, now try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade05:12
ExcaliBerrobotgeek: It finished downloading now how do i open it05:12
ExcaliBer?05:12
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robotgeekExcaliBer: try playing the video05:13
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fernandojust one question: where can I find the bookmarks .xml file for Konqueror?05:13
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ExcaliBerI still can't play it.05:13
PherdinandI got this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1241705:14
CheeseBurgerManfernando: ~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror05:14
ExcaliBerthere is no sound in gaim right?05:14
ExcaliBerDo any of you guys have sound on gaim?05:15
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fernandoCheeseBurgerMan: thanx man05:15
CheeseBurgerManPherdinand: I don't see any errors. :\05:15
CheeseBurgerManJust that it's not installing05:15
CheeseBurgerManfernando: you're welcome.05:15
Pherdinandwell...but when I try to update from adept05:15
ExcaliBerCheeseBurgerMan: DO you ahve sound on your gaim?05:15
PherdinandI got the message "Nothing to update"05:15
ExcaliBerhave*05:15
CheeseBurgerManExcaliBer: I haven't used Gaim for awhile05:16
CheeseBurgerManAnd I tend to turn off all system sounds anyway05:16
ExcaliBerbut do you have sound?05:16
CheeseBurgerManSo no, I don't in Gaim05:16
ExcaliBeroh05:16
ExcaliBerme either05:16
robotgeekExcaliBer: so you installed w32codecs, and kaffeine-xine and your video file (rm) doesn't play?05:16
ExcaliBerNo.05:16
PherdinandI mean "Update Complete, Good Bye"...I get no options to upgrade my kde05:16
ExcaliBerI don't know about the w32codecs05:16
Pherdinandand of course, I'm still running 3.4.205:16
Pherdinand*3.4.305:17
robotgeekubotu: tell ExcaliBer about w32codecs05:17
ExcaliBeri already ahve the latest version05:17
robotgeekExcaliBer: okay, what error does it give you again on playing?05:18
CheeseBurgerManPherdinand: I'm not exactly sure what's wrong - I don't see any error messages to give me a clue as to what's  wrong.05:18
ExcaliBerhold on05:18
ExcaliBerTotem could not play 'file:///home/suspect/Desktop/wait.rm'.05:18
ExcaliBerThats the error.05:19
PherdinandCheeseBurgerMan...under adept I got Status: upgradable when I click I got Action: BREAK (upgrade) in red05:19
PherdinandI know that some dependencies are wrong05:19
Pherdinandwhere is stores the information about the Candidate version showed in "Adept"?05:19
Pherdinand*stored05:20
Pherdinand**show05:20
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Pherdinandwell..05:20
Pherdinandhere's my sad history..05:20
PherdinandI didn't know about the autentication file05:20
Pherdinandnow, thanks, I know05:20
Pherdinandbut..05:20
robotgeekExcaliBer: hmm, totem? "sudo apt-get install totem-xine"05:20
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Pherdinandbefore I was downloading all the updates, after that I got some error with a file called libsomething(i'll find)...so that file was a dependency not found in the server (I guess)05:22
ExcaliBerOk now it works.05:23
ExcaliBerThank you.05:23
Pherdinandso I moved all the files in the cache "archives" because when I entered to the adept I always get the message to update to 3.5.2, I deleted the files to not see 3.5.2 anymore, I thought that adept was reading the files in "archives" because it had the information about 3.5.2 even if i change the repository servers to 3.5.105:23
Pherdinand(learning english ;) )05:24
Pherdinandso........05:24
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CheeseBurgerManYou're english is fine. I just don't know how to fix the problem.05:24
Pherdinandadept is reading 3.5.2 from i don't know where...if I run aptitude..?05:24
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robotgeekPherdinand: what is your problem again?05:25
PherdinandI have a dependency problem upgrading from KDE 3.4.3 to 3.5.205:26
robotgeekPherdinand: okay, type "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"05:27
Pherdinandso, when I run that command I got this...05:27
Pherdinandhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1241705:27
Pherdinandthere's no error, but also there's no update to my KDE05:27
PherdinandI mean, nothing happens05:28
robotgeekPherdinand: hmm, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade also doesn't work?05:29
Pherdinandnope05:30
PherdinandI got the same message05:30
Pherdinand"The following packages have been kept back:"05:30
Pherdinandand the list...05:30
Pherdinandbefore that everything seems OK05:30
Pherdinandbefore that "nothing happens" I was getting a dependecy error05:31
Pherdinandbut I just can see that error if I use aptitude05:32
robotgeekPherdinand: also try "sudo apt-get -f install"05:32
robotgeeki don't have any other ideas :(05:32
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Pherdinandif there any problem if I use aptitude?05:33
Pherdinandjust to check dependencies05:33
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Pherdinandor there's any command to check kde-base dependencies?05:33
robotgeekPherdinand: apt-cache depends kdebase05:34
Pherdinand Conflicts: <kdebase-libs><---this is not good, am I right?05:35
PherdinandI mean, that could be part of the weird prob05:36
robotgeekPherdinand: not sure, sorry05:37
burepePlease help me fix this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=16139105:37
Pherdinandthanks05:40
PherdinandI'll try reading about dependencies05:40
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Pherdinandrobotgeek, there's any way to see only BROKEN dependencies?05:43
robotgeekPherdinand: if something is broken, apt will tell you.05:44
PherdinandI don't have ksnapshopt, does ubuntu includes something else05:45
Pherdinandjust to post my screen shot05:45
noiesmoPherdinand, anything happen whe nyu push print screen key on keyboard05:45
Pherdinandforget it, really I don't have any graphical proggie here05:47
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Pherdinandwell05:56
Pherdinandrobotgeek, are you still there?05:57
PherdinandI found the error...05:57
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Pherdinandunder aptitude I got a window that show:05:57
Pherdinand"kdelibs4c2 are not satisfied"05:57
Pherdinandthose libraries that i don't have are libavahi-client1 >= 0.5.205:58
noiesmoPherdinand, sorry about that are you running xgl05:58
PherdinandI'm not05:59
robotgeekPherdinand: hmm, back.06:06
robotgeekPherdinand: try sudo apt-get -f install kdelibs4c206:06
Pherdinandrobotgeek, it says that I need some dependencies06:09
Pherdinandso...i wrote the same06:09
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PaloDeQuesoLet's say I share a folder on windows and make it writable, how do I do this exact same thing in linux where anyone can read and write to a share?06:10
Pherdinandrobot, I got this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1242006:11
Pherdinandplease not that I invented the package.ubuntu.com repository in a desperate attempt to get the required file06:11
Pherdinand*note06:11
robotgeek_awayPherdinand: can you paste your sources.list too06:12
chavosounds like a problem with your sources.list06:12
Pherdinandrobotgeek, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1242106:14
Pherdinandyup06:14
PherdinandI invented a server, but I got two warnings06:14
Pherdinand# fer commented servers are servers by default, just to avoid a foreign update, but i don't know if that is causing the prob06:16
chavoPherdinand, waht's this -> deb ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/3.5.2/kubuntu breezy main06:16
chavoa mirror of the other one?06:16
Pherdinanda repository?06:16
Pherdinandyup06:16
PherdinandI'm desperate06:16
Pherdinandtrying with different servers06:16
Pherdinandas you can see, a lot of commented ones06:16
PherdinandE: Package libavahi-client1 has no installation candidate06:17
chavowell the first one has breezy misspelled06:17
PherdinandI can't get the file06:17
Pherdinandwhich one?06:17
Pherdinandgot it06:17
Pherdinandthe packages06:17
matt_Hi, I'm new to kubuntu, but been using gentoo for a few years.  Is anyone able to help getting mp3 previews working in konqueror?06:18
burepexawtv says "stick you settings in the config file ($HOME/.xawtv)" but what exactly do I put in it?06:18
chavoPherdinand, have you tried commenting out the cdrom and uncommenting the remote servers, you might need something from there06:19
Pherdinandwell I have no cdrom in the drive, I'll try doing that06:19
Pherdinandthanks..06:19
Pherdinandgive me a sec06:19
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chavoyou might need something from backports, but I don't know. I'm running dapper here06:19
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Pherdinand:(06:21
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Pherdinandchavo, i got this06:22
Pherdinandhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1242206:22
chavodid you apt-get update?06:23
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PherdinandE: Couldn't find package libavahi-client06:25
Pherdinandyup, but06:25
chavonow try dist-upgrade06:26
matt_Hi, I'm new to kubuntu, but been using gentoo for a few years.  Is anyone able to help getting mp3 previews working in konqueror?06:27
PherdinandE: Package libavahi-client1 has no installation candidate06:27
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chavoPherdinand, I  have  libavahi-client306:28
Pherdinandchavo, I got this....useless packages http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1242306:29
chavodo you have kubuntu-desktop installed?06:30
DeadS0ulmatt_: mp3 previews..06:30
DeadS0ulmatt_: view->preview->soundfiles06:30
DeadS0ulmatt_: and you have to have mp3 packages installed06:31
matt_DeadS0ul: yep, got that - ogg and wav work.  I've got mpg321 and mpeglib installed06:31
matt_DeadS0ul: mp3's play fine in amarok, mplayer etc etc06:31
DeadS0ulwhat bout libarts-mpeglib06:31
matt_DeadS0ul: yep, got that.06:32
DeadS0uljust installed?06:32
matt_DeadS0ul: yep.  Just restarting sound server now.  See what happens.06:32
DeadS0ulmatt_: maybe a full kde logout/login might help so that kde loads those libs properly.06:33
chavoit's working for me matt_ , but I'm on dapper06:34
matt_Restarting the sound server did it.06:34
chavocool06:34
DeadS0ulwoo hoo06:34
matt_Thanks for the help guys.  I'm really enjoying kubuntu.  It's very nice.06:34
DeadS0ulsame here06:34
chavoanytime06:34
DeadS0ulI just got up running yesterday haah06:35
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matt_DeadS0ul: same.  It feels odd getting an install up and running in an hour after a few years with gentoo.06:36
_Ferdinand932432I'm back06:36
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matt_While we're on konqueror and audio, is anyone able to get the audiocd service working?06:42
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johnshaftHi. Just installed kubuntu-desktop. Having a strange problem07:08
johnshaftNo borders around the windows. Can't close / minimize, etc07:08
johnshaftGnome is fine07:08
johnshaftAny ideas?07:09
Pherdinanddid you change the window properties?07:11
johnshaftI tried but nothing seemed to happen. I couldn't get to the apply button because it was off the bottom of the screen and since there is no border I can't move the window :(07:12
wobotgeekjohnshaft: alt + f2 , kwin07:13
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johnshaftWhat does kwin do?07:18
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johnshaftwobotgeek: I'll try logging in to KDE now and try kwin07:19
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acaianyone home?07:49
acaii'd like some repositories with more software, possibly non-free software.07:50
robotgeek!sources.list07:52
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource07:52
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burepeI was just setting up xaw tv after installing my tv tuner and then the screen went black in xawtv. I can't change it back. I can hear the tv but there is no video. Any suggestions?07:55
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NewbieBoyhi guys08:07
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robotgeekhey NewbieBoy08:09
margouyabhi NewbieBoy08:09
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DenHi - Firestarter or Kmyfirewall for a simple powerful firewall?08:12
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robotgeekDen: i think both are interfaces to the same kernel firewall08:13
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Denrobotgeek: The pkg sizes are 2 & 4 MB08:13
Denrobotgeek: oops - no 2MB each08:13
Denrobotgeek: Maype that was in Dapper08:14
Denrobotgeek: what do you use?08:14
margouyabthey are gui for easily modify iptables08:14
margouyabI use firestarter08:14
DenHobbsee: Firewall u use?08:14
Denmargouyab: fires better than kmy..?08:15
margouyabi don't know08:15
DenThanks everyone :) margouyab robotgeek08:15
margouyabbut firestarter already gives 100% of protecton (i test my config on sygate)08:16
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robotgeekDen: i don't use a firewall08:17
margouyabDen: you're wellcome08:17
Denmargouyab: what is sygate?08:17
HobbseeDen: ah, guarddog08:19
DenHobbsee: why guarddog, not firestarter or kmyfirewall?08:20
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Hobbseefirestarter didnt behave, havent tried kmyfirewall08:20
margouyabDen: a website where you can test your protection08:20
margouyabhttp://scan.sygatetech.com/08:21
kubuntutaotaotoday my kde reinstalled,how i install scim?my kubuntu is flight-608:21
robotgeekkubuntutaotao: do you have language pack installed?08:22
margouyabkubuntutaotao: synapticqs?08:22
kubuntutaotaomy language is chinese08:22
kubuntutaotaowait,i try it out08:23
robotgeekkubuntutaotao: hmm, skim should be in your system tray08:23
burepeI lost my tvtuner video signal, the sound is fine. Is this a driver problem? The video just disappeared08:23
kubuntutaotaorobotgeek:ho ho.thank,i forgot about thing of scim.i try it out.08:25
NewbieBoyguys, how do i set up a vpn connection? i need to connect to our ofc in europe thru vpn.08:25
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NewbieBoywhat is a shell? is it the terminal also?08:37
robotgeek!cli08:37
ubotuCLI means Command Line Interface, aka the terminal or console. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/ or http://www.tuxfiles.org08:37
HobbseeNewbieBoy: yes08:37
NewbieBoyty08:37
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burepeHelp! http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=929375#post92937509:07
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margouyabburepe: sorry i don't know nothing about tvtuner09:09
burepethanks though... it is doing my head in. I had it working finally and then it just disappeared09:09
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cfraz89hi09:17
margouyabhi09:17
cfraz89i am having a wierd problem09:17
cfraz89http://www.netbank.commbank.com.au/netbank09:17
cfraz89does not load in konqueror09:17
cfraz89i thought it might have something to do with crypto09:18
cfraz89it used to btw09:18
margouyaber i opened the page and i don't see any problem09:19
cfraz89hmmm09:22
cfraz89it doesnt work for me09:22
cfraz89says cant connect to www3,netbank.com.au09:23
cfraz89An error occurred while loading http://www.netbank.commbank.com.au/netbank/:09:24
cfraz89Could not connect to host www3.netbank.commbank.com.au.09:24
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margouyabsorry can't help ^^;09:33
cfraz89np09:33
cfraz89thanks anyway :)09:33
margouyabi have to go ciao09:33
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Hobbseecfraz89: ah yes, i see.  kde3.5.2?09:35
cfraz89yes09:36
Hobbseewonder if it's 'a kde 3.5.2 bug - that's opening for me in firefox, but not konq09:37
cfraz89exactly09:37
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mvvi am trying to find the system paths for kmyfirewall ( http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/525/kmyfirewallsystempaths6hn.jpg ) Anyone with a idea?09:56
Hobbseemvv: locate iptables?09:57
Hobbseeand then find it that way?09:57
Hobbseebut you cant select your distro?09:57
mvvHobbsee: i found iptables and modprobe with locate already, but init and runlevel are mysterious. (no i can only select LSB distribution, Gentoo and Slackware)10:00
Hobbseei'd say those last two are right...10:00
Hobbseenot sure about the last one, but the 3rd one is okay10:00
mvvah only one left then  :)10:01
Hobbseemvv: looks like runlevels must be /sbin/runlevel10:02
mvvyeah i has the same ideahought that too,10:03
mvvcrap10:03
mvvi had the same idea, but it's not a directory10:03
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Hobbseehmm..10:04
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mvvHobbsee: i'll google some more intensive for that10:05
Hobbseemvv: yeah, i think you'll have to...10:05
Hobbseesorry about not knowing teh answer10:05
mvvHobbsee: thanks for your time and help :)10:05
Hobbseenot a problem10:05
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mvvHobbsee: got it, in /etc/inittab i could find the default runlevel "id:2:initdefault:". The directory was /etc/rc2.d :)10:30
Hobbseeah :)10:30
me2win[sleep] Hobbsee: if I plug in an IDE HD, do I need to restart in order to mount it?10:31
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Hobbseeme2win[sleep] : depends if it's seen in "sudo fdisk -l" or not10:31
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me2win[sleep] Hobbsee: i see i see10:32
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jpatrickhttp://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3370/2500/1600/GNULinux.jpg <- smart10:38
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mvvnice, i've such one of the filesystem (if i can find it here...)10:45
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mvvhttp://img100.imageshack.us/img100/2105/linuxfilestructure7tj.jpg <- filesystem10:48
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jpatrickcool10:49
mpathyHi There..10:51
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Hobbsee_awayhi10:51
jpatrickhi10:51
mpathyHow I could get rid of those "simplified" :( Konqueror configuration used in Kubuntu? And go back to the KDE defaults?10:51
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mpathyThey are really fine for newbies to KDE etc. but for me they only slow down my productivity..10:52
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mpathySomeone got an idea?10:57
Hobbsee_awaympathy: maybe remove konquerorrc?10:58
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Hobbsee|BrainDeagrrr...10:59
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mpathyhmm.. I found a package installed called kubuntu-default-settings, if I remove it, I wont go back to defaults I believe?!? or will I?11:00
Hobbseehmm...probably worth keeping the cloak...11:00
Hobbseempathy: it will, yes...but it will remove all of the other defaults too11:00
Hobbseei'd remove ~.kde/share/apps/config/konquerorrc11:00
Hobbseeand then restart konq11:00
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nico8481hi11:06
jpatrickmpathy: www.kubuntu.org/faq.php#konqueror11:06
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mpathyjpatrick: Oh! Thanks. I will put that in our LoCo Wiki ;)11:07
nrdbHi I am trying to get gnome-meeting to run but I am not getting any audio, I am getting an error message "The selected audio device (Default) was successfully opened but it is impossible to read data from this device. Please check your audio setup"11:09
jpatrickmpathy: welcome :)11:09
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mennohi. i installed Kubuntu and later Fedora4. Now i cannot got to Kubuntu anymore11:13
mennoCan somebody help me please?11:14
mpathyjpatrick: Nothing happened! I using dapper is it a different there?11:14
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jpatrickrestarted KDE? (just to make sure)11:14
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mpathyjpatrick: No! I forgot *g* brb ;)11:15
virnikhi there11:15
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virnikgotta problem with valknut compilation11:15
virnikdclib compiled and installed in /usr/include/dclib11:15
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virnikand my problem is, that configure of valknut itself says that i gotta wrong path in configure --with-libdc=/usr/local/include/dclib11:16
virnikbut  i got the path right11:16
mennoi can not enter Kubunt11:19
mendredhi does anyone know how to make usb hard drives load into specific folders?11:20
virnikmendred: why?11:20
mendredsee i have a usb hard disk where i store some stuff11:21
mendredand i have symlinks11:21
mendredto that in my home folder11:21
virnikah11:21
mendredso if hotplug changes the folder11:21
virnikand problem is?11:21
mendredbecause of11:21
mendredanother usb stick11:21
mendredor something11:21
mendredmy symlinks go for a toss11:21
virnikyeah, your homedir gonna fall11:21
virnikheh, why u got that symlinked?11:22
mendredi just want to create folders based on volume label11:22
mendredvirnik: what do u then suggest?11:22
virnikso, if u got another USB plug , and usb disk pluged still on, there shall be no problem at all11:22
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virnikjust modify your fstab11:22
virnikmodify your fstab11:22
mendredvirnik: no entries in fstab11:23
virnikmake your usb disk normally mounted as homedir11:23
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mendredvirnik: hotplug doesn't make entry in fstab11:23
virnikand then connect another usb stick or wheteawer11:23
virniki know11:23
virniki didnt meant hotplug11:23
mendredvirnik: k11:23
virnikif you wanna use that fucked usb disk as a home dir, make changes in fstab11:23
mendredvirnik: heh its not fucked its got 200 gb11:24
virniklol11:24
mendredvirnik: i have a laptop with a 30 gb hdd11:24
virnikevery devices like that is fucked :-)11:24
virniki see11:24
jpatrick"aptitude -v moo"11:25
mendredvirnik: its a normal ide hdd which i have converted to usb11:25
virniki know11:25
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virnikby using trans case for hdd11:25
mendredvirnik: yup11:25
virniki made some time ago the same11:25
virniki only suggest you to use fstab instead of hotplug11:25
virnikhotplug changes everytime devices indexes, when u connect another device11:26
mendredvirnik: how do i get hotplug to ignore this?11:26
virnikFU*KED Kubuntu...damn....valknut cant be compiled....11:26
virnikshit11:26
jpatrickvirnik: maybe it's your fault11:26
virnikheh, i got experiences with every distro i found, but kubuntu and ubuntu is the worst11:26
virnikjpatrick: count on it...IT IS MY FAULT...sure...but it is hard to say where i am doing something wrong11:27
mendredvirnik: is there any way to make hotplug load usb devices into folders named after the volume of the partition?11:27
thoreauputic!info valnut11:27
virnikits first distro i have seen where sshd isnt installed by default...etc11:27
mendredvirnik: cause that would solve my issue nicely11:28
thoreauputic!info valknut11:28
ubotuvalknut: (graphical client for Direct Connect), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 0.3.7-1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 863 kB, Installed size: 3044 kB11:28
thoreauputicvalknut is right there in universe11:28
jpatrickvirnik: I don't think that the includes are meant to be in /usr/local/include/dclib11:28
virnikthoreauputic: what? it is in binary for kubuntu? shit, i must be damned lame...i didnt looked in apt repo11:28
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virnikjpatrick: it is default...11:29
thoreauputicvirnik: First rule of Ubuntu/Kubuntu ---> apt-cache search <keyword>11:29
ph8hey guys, does anyone know how/if I can burn .mds images with k3b?11:29
virnikwhen you install dclib from compilation withou --prefix= specified11:29
jpatrickvirnik: I always thought it was /usr/include/dclib11:29
jpatrickexactly11:29
virnikthoreauputic: i am not lame at all like you think...may be i love fedora, but in fedora, i used to use apt too11:29
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thoreauputicI didn't say you were lame :)11:30
virnikso leave this tips for someone else...i am just something like distracted11:30
thoreauputicvirnik: I just pointed you to a solution11:30
thoreauputicvirnik: oh, I see - I give you an answer and you throw it back in my face - nice11:31
thoreauputic!coc11:31
virnikjpatrick: ee, wrong. i say that they have compiled here11:31
ubotuwell, coc is the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, which we ask all Ubuntu users to follow. You can find the Code of Conduct at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/11:31
virnikthoreauputic: hey, it wasnt meant like that, sorry11:31
thoreauputicOK11:31
virniku know, sometimes you r solvng problem too long, and then you will be somelike pissed off11:31
thoreauputicsure11:31
mendredah ok i found this guide for using udev...that should take care of this11:33
virniki dont know why, but i used to compile progrs my self...sometimes it solve more problems then it cause11:33
virnikhey, is it normal in ubuntu/kubuntu that normal default runlevel is no 2?11:34
virnikhmm11:34
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virniknevermind, changed back to 5611:34
virniknevermind, changed back to 511:34
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mpath1jpatrick: Doesnt work! :(11:46
jpatrickmpath1: :(11:47
jpatrickmust be for Breezy only11:47
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ph8hey guys, does anyone know how/if I can burn .mds images with k3b?11:52
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mvvph8: nope, mds is alcohol proprietary format11:55
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Tonio_why don't people simply use iso format ?11:57
Tonio_mvv: doesn't it sound stupid so many cd image formats exists............... ??11:57
Tonio_nero, for example, doesn't support ripping in ISO nowadays.... what a shame11:58
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mvvTonio_: most people don't think about that, the companies only use that to get proprietary marketshare12:00
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Tonio_mvv: I (of course) know that...12:00
Tonio_mvv: but that goes against users ability to use a computer simply12:01
Tonio_that's fuckin' stupid12:01
mvvTonio_ : yeah but iso has his problems with audio AFAIK12:01
Tonio_mvv: not iso in byte to byte mode12:01
mvvTonio: totally agree, but the users aren't aware of that12:01
mvvTonio_: i dunno much about it, i just read it from the kiso website some months ago ;)12:02
Tonio_mvv: to what I know, all cd images formats have the same problems and work the same way12:03
Tonio_generally, burning an unsupported cd image is possible by simply changing the extension.......12:04
Tonio_sounds weird but that's it12:04
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mvvTonio_: the problem is that file sharing users mostly use these stupid formats, and then find out it's proprietary when it's too late12:05
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mvvTonio_: no with nero nrg it's different12:05
Tonio_nrg is specific yes, that's the only one to what I know12:05
Tonio_img, iso and bin foir example are almost the same12:06
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mvvtrack-at-onces nrg image you can easily rename to iso, disc-at-one not12:06
mvvdunno why, but that's what i found out12:07
Tonio_all of that makes me shit........12:07
Tonio_iso is nice and really sufficient......12:07
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mvvyeah it splits the whole thing, useless, it delivers them money :(12:08
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mvvis there a good comparison between nrg, img, iso and bin?12:10
mvvlike a good website that lists the differences12:11
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jpatrickmaybe wikipedia..12:12
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Tonio_mvv: here is it ;) good comparative :12:18
Tonio_nrg sucks | img sucks | bin sucks | mds sucks | iso rocking !!12:18
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Tonio_that's fine to me ;)12:18
mvvlol12:19
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marcushi all12:27
marcusI wonder if someone can help12:27
marcusI recently installed dapper, after enjoying breezy12:27
marcusall seems just great, really exciting, but opps, no sound12:28
Hobbsee!sound12:28
ubotuI guess sound is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary12:28
marcusseems something needs setting up12:28
Hobbseemarcus: check in kmix, that all the faders are turned up full, and that they all shine green12:28
Kamping_Kaiserhi Hobbsee12:28
Hobbseehi Kamping_Kaiser12:28
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nrdbI am trying to get gnome-meeting to work with kubuntu, it wont use the audio correctly, any suggestions please?12:46
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Kamping_Kaisernrdb, can you be more specific12:49
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nrdbKamping_Kaiser: when trying to setup gnome-meeting, I click on the 'test settings' after selecting all default and I get "Impossible to open the selected audio device (Ensoniq AudioPCI) for playing. Please check your audio setup, the permissions and that the device is not busy."12:51
nrdbKamping_Kaiser: I have checked I am in the 'audio' group.12:51
Kamping_Kaisernrdb, i'm afraid i dont have gnome-meeting here (dapper had ekiga), or i would check the settings for you12:52
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Kamping_Kaiserbut if you can try using /dev/dsp directly12:52
nrdbKamping_Kaiser: when doing the setup I get the choice of (ALSA/QuickNet) I chose ALSA, then (Ensoniq AudioPCI/default) I chose Ensoniq.. then clicked 'Test Settings'.12:55
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Kamping_Kaisernrdb, have you tried mixing the settings around to test it a bit?12:56
nrdbKamping_Kaiser: yes.  I can't seem to find anything that works.12:57
Kamping_Kaiserdamn. do you have alsa installed?12:57
nrdbKamping_Kaiser: no problem with other programs Xine/Kaffine/KDE12:58
Kamping_Kaisernrdb, those are kde native. iirc they use a different sound daemon12:58
Kamping_Kaisernot esd, but i cant remember what its called12:58
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nrdbKamping_Kaiser: alsaplayer works!01:00
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Kamping_Kaiserhm then alsa's there01:00
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nrdbKamping_Kaiser: do you know if gnome-meeting will work better with something else?01:01
Kamping_Kaisernrdb, i have no idea. i havent used it for ages01:02
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nrdbKamping_Kaiser: do you know what to install to get OSS?01:02
Kamping_Kaiserno. tbh, i dont think yoru going to find me a lot of use for this problem01:03
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nrdbKamping_Kaiser: ok thanks for trying.01:05
Hobbseenrdb: i thought OSS was already installed...01:06
nrdbHobbsee: do you know how to test?01:07
Hobbseenrdb: system settings, sound and multimedia, change teh engine to OSS, test sound?01:07
Hobbseehit apply between OSS and test sound...01:07
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burepehttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=929416#post92941601:12
burepeHelp, my working tv tuner card lost video. Now I have sound and a black screen, More info here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=929416#post92941601:13
nrdbHobbsee: I told the 'system settings' to use OSS and gnome-metting to use 'ALSA' and things worked :) ????01:16
Hobbseehmmm?  did they work?01:16
nrdbHobbsee: yes I don't know why.01:17
Hobbseeweird.01:17
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nrdbHobbsee: now I can connect between computer on my LAN. :)01:19
Hobbseenrdb: yay :D01:19
marcusthank you Hobbsee , all is wel now with my sound, regards and take care :-)01:19
Hobbsee:)01:20
marcusb4n :-)01:21
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nukyhi, i'm using opera (web browser) in kubuntu 5.10, how can i set the irc links to open in konversation instead of opera's own irc plug-in?01:27
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mvvnuky: probably not, opera wants you to use opera for that ;(01:35
slow-motionhallo01:35
danytuouai !01:35
mvvnuky: you'd better use konqueror or firefox ;)01:36
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danytules deux stp !01:36
danytui like more firefox01:37
zambbafirefox keeps crashing01:37
zambbawith linux and with windows01:37
danytulinux please01:37
nukymw thanks.. i didn't think there was a setting.. was just checking..01:39
nukythanks01:39
uniqnuky, use konversationircprotocolhandler01:46
uniqgah.. to late.01:46
jendaHey there folks. I have a Czech friend who uses Kmail and has this problem: Kmail always tries to save passwords at shutdown, and he has to give it permissions - if he doesn't go through with all that, the PC won't power down.01:46
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jendaThat is... it wants to save them to a file and asks if it can every time...01:51
jendaHe has turned off password manager.01:51
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uniqjenda: it does that because saving passwords to textfiles is insecure. using kwallet (the password manager) is strongly recommended.02:02
jendaOK02:02
jendaAnd is there a way to prevent it from saving them altogether?02:03
jendaor _not_ to ask every time?02:03
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uniqjenda: uncheck the save password box in the account settings.02:08
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foobarhi there02:37
paulvolkHi02:37
foobarumm, simple question: how do I unpack some .tar.gz to a given folder? something like tar -xvzf archive.tar.gz /path/to/destination02:37
foobarI can't find that in the info02:37
Hobbsee!+compile02:38
ubotuA nice howto about compiling software from source code can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (but remember to search !apt first, after adding all the !repos)02:38
paulvolkok, I have tried to compile packedges but I can't because I don't have xorg dev. So I tried searching the repositories but I couldn't find it. Now I can't compile and install anything with out it. Where could I find it?02:38
Hobbseefoobar: tar -zvxf file.tar.gz02:39
Hobbseexorg dev?02:39
foobarbut that extracts the archive to the current folder, doesnt it?02:39
Hobbseefoobar: man tar...02:39
Hobbseepaulvolk: i'd try if it means xlibs-dev02:40
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sorush20hi guys02:40
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sorush20I wanted to find out why I can't view the side panel to kontact when I click on the korganiser application icons next to the wastebin?02:41
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foobarHobbsee: --directory is what I was looking for, thanks! (I allways searched in "info tar" but couldn't find it there)02:43
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Hobbseeah, that's it...02:43
sorush20the korganiser daemon next to the waste bin sometimes only shows the korganiser with out the other kontact componenets how can I get it to work that it show the other componentsj?02:45
paulvolkWhen I try to compile something it wants a QT thing. What would I search for to find it?02:45
Hobbseepaulvolk: kde-devel?02:46
paulvolkconfigure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.3 and < 4.0) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!02:46
paulvolkthat is what it says02:46
Hobbseeor grab kdelibs4-dev02:47
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Hobbseethe actual package it's asking for is another one - but those will get it for you, and a whole lot of others that you'll probably end up needing02:47
nxv_can i minimize the runtime of beagle? i would like to only scan new data instead of checking regular all files02:47
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slow-motionre02:48
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Hobbseepaulvolk: it's actually asking for libqt3-headers02:49
HobbseeIIRC02:49
paulvolkoh ok02:51
Hobbseepaulvolk: if you're going to do a reasonable amount of compiling kde programs, just grab kde-devel, and you're right...02:51
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paulvolkOk I did02:52
Hobbseecool :)02:52
Hobbseerun ./configure again tehn :)02:52
paulvolkya I will be doing a fair amount of compiling02:52
Hobbseehehe02:52
Hobbseewhy, what are you compiling?02:52
paulvolksome programs02:52
sorush20I keep getting the message in korganiser that canno't save event to calendar... what should i do?02:52
RaRehello is Ubuntu's breezy kernel the same with kubuntu's? (breezy kernel 2.6.12-10)02:53
Hobbseepaulvolk: mmm ok...02:53
HobbseeRaRe: yes02:53
RaReHobbsee: Thanks02:53
HobbseeRaRe: most of the packages  are the same - just not the display manager ones02:53
Hobbseeie, kde or gnome02:53
Hobbseeyou can use kde programs on gnome, and vice versa02:53
Kamping_Kaiserwindow manager - x would be the display manager ;)02:54
RaReic ic.. >:D02:54
Hobbseeer, yeah02:54
Hobbseethat02:54
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paulvolkcould someone tell me a good how to for checkinstall? I would like to use it but don't know how seeing as on my other system I never used it.02:55
Hobbsee!checkinstall02:56
ubotuhmm... checkinstall is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall02:56
Hobbseepaulvolk: you cant redistribute packages you make with checkinstall02:56
paulvolkcool02:56
paulvolkso like if I am on a network?02:56
Hobbseehuh?02:57
paulvolkum could you tell me what I should build the packedge according too?03:02
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paulvolkdoes it matter?03:02
paulvolkoh wait nvm I read it wrong03:03
steveirehi03:03
steveireI can't get through to ubutuforums.com03:03
steveireorg whatever03:03
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Hobbseesteveire: it's .org03:05
Hobbseeand...i think it's down...03:05
Hobbseewas up an hour or so ago...03:05
steveireseems so03:05
steveireboo-urns!!!03:05
paulvolkHobbsee: Thanks so much I never knew how to use this or I would have used it Thanks so much!03:05
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steveireooh, what did I miss?03:09
Hobbseesteveire: with what?03:10
Hobbseesteveire: they're there...but slowly03:13
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steveire<paulvolk> Hobbsee: Thanks so much I never knew how to use this or I would have used it Thanks so much! <<< with that.03:14
Hobbseesteveire: ah, checkinstall03:14
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mozartre03:18
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steveirei'll google and find out what that is...03:19
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ExCaliberHello how is evereyone doing?03:23
ExCaliberEveryone.03:23
_jeff_lol hey03:23
_jeff_im good03:23
_jeff_how about you03:23
ExCaliberCool.03:23
ExCaliber= )03:23
ExCaliberIm good.03:24
_jeff_anybody know where i can find my xconfig file?03:24
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ExCaliberHmm.03:24
_jeff_i keep getting composite manager failure03:24
ExCaliberTry in terminal locate xconfig03:24
_jeff_ok03:24
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Hobbsee_jeff_: as in, xorg.conf?03:27
ExCaliber_jeff_,Did you find it?03:27
_jeff_hobbsee:yah, that could be it03:29
_jeff_no havent found it yet03:29
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ExCaliberThen type this sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg03:29
Hobbsee_jeff_: /etc/X11/xorg.conf03:29
ExCaliberare you doing this for resolution?03:29
_jeff_no, im trying to use the xcomposite manager03:30
_jeff_xcommgr03:30
ExCaliberOh.03:30
_jeff_and kwin keeps crashing on me. and the comp manager keeps saying that i have to add it to my x config file03:30
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ExCaliberHmm.03:31
_jeff_*xcompmgr03:31
_jeff_hobbsee:thanks03:31
Hobbsee_jeff_: not a problem03:31
ExCaliber= SD03:31
ExCaliber= D03:31
_jeff_lol03:32
ExCaliberHobbsee:Hello03:32
ExCaliberol03:32
ExCaliberlol03:32
Hobbseehi ExCaliber03:32
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ExCaliber= )03:32
ExCaliberI love kde.03:32
ExCaliberSometimes its a pain on knoppix.03:33
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ExCaliberCan't change the resolution screen.03:33
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ExCaliberScreen Resolution.03:33
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ExCaliberI'm using = D03:33
ExCaliberKubuntu03:33
_jeff_yayuh03:34
ExCaliberBrb.03:34
_jeff_does anybody use the x composite manager?03:34
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=== ..[topic/#kubuntu:Riddell] : Flight 6 out | Amarok 1.4 beta 3, KOffice 1.5 out - See http://kubuntu.org/ | Breezy fixes in breezy-updates | IRC info and channels in other languages: http://wiki.kubuntu.org/InternetRelayChat | FAQ: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/FaqOnIrc | Please don't paste into the channel, use http://kubuntu.pastebin.com | Dapper discussion in #ubuntu+1 | http://wiki.kubuntu.org/HelpingKubuntu
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erofeeHi all03:34
_jeff_hey03:34
erofeecan anyone tell me how to get amaroK to play mp3 files?03:35
jpatrick!mp303:35
dave__Winamp  5.20 Stopped03:35
ubotuit has been said that mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats03:35
_jeff_!w32codecs03:35
ubotuI guess w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install03:35
erofeethanks03:35
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_jeff_no problem mang03:38
_jeff_odyxydo: lol03:38
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OdyXydO_jeff_: what ?03:39
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slow-motionre^x03:40
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ExCaliberOk im back.03:42
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Tm_Twoohoo04:00
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_erofee!lamp04:05
ubotuLinux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP04:05
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Nigeywee04:09
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swaits_if im on breezy, how do i upgrade to dapper?04:09
Nigeyany1 had probs with installing on vmware, i just get a lockup :|04:09
dark_suicedit your repositories changing all references from breezy to dapper04:10
dark_suicthen update && dist-upgrade should work04:10
swaits_ok04:10
swaits_so s/breezy/dapper/g in my sources.. got it.04:11
dark_suicyep04:11
swaits_then sudo apt-get update04:11
oddieis it wise though?04:12
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FrysNo managable screens found on display :0.0 <--- why do i keep getting that error when i try to run compiz?04:12
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swaits_here goes nothin'04:15
davixhow can I print to a printer shared on windows?04:15
Hobbseedavix: using kde print - add the printer in system settings, printers, with the smb protocol04:16
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davixHobbsee, tnx i'll try04:16
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slow-motionbbl04:25
suspectHello04:26
suspectHow is everyone doing?04:26
Hobbseehey...04:26
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Hobbseeconsidering falling asleep at the keyboard, and killing off a couple of bug reports04:27
Tm_THobbsee: kill me instead?04:27
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Hobbseenah, but if you happened to use KPPP at all, and wanted to test, i'd appreciate it04:27
_jeff_hey gangsters04:27
suspectHobbsee:Hello its excaliber.04:27
suspect= D04:27
Hobbseeah, hi :)04:27
suspectHi.04:28
davixHobbsee, something is wrong with my cups and it wont let me do anything04:28
jpatrickI thought that was a sword04:28
Hobbseedavix: breezy or dapper?04:28
davixdapper04:28
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_jeff_is this the kmenu for dapper or something?:http://www.kde-look.org/content/pre1/37934-1.jpg04:28
jpatrick_jeff_: no04:29
Hobbsee_jeff_: eek no lol04:29
_jeff_damnit04:29
_jeff_i want that kmenu04:29
_jeff_it looks so sexy04:29
jpatrickkbfx is buggy04:29
_jeff_its kbfx?04:29
jpatrickyes04:29
_jeff_hmm04:29
jpatrickit's in dapper04:29
jpatrickI know, I packaged it04:30
me2win[sleep] jpatrick: by default?04:30
jpatrickme2win[sleep] : no04:30
_jeff_ok04:30
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_jeff_is it buggy because its in dapper or is it just kbfx04:30
jpatrickgo "aptitude -vvvvv moo" !04:30
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jpatrickkbfx itself is buggy04:31
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_jeff_hmmmmm04:32
_jeff_mmmmmmmmm04:32
_jeff_ok04:32
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paulvolkHow would I configure a program to start on startup?04:35
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_jeff_iunno04:37
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Hobbseepaulvolk: add a symlink into ~/.kde/Autostart04:38
Hobbseeor if you want it for all users, symlink into /usr/whatever/the/path/is/use/locate/here/Autostart04:39
Hobbsee:P04:39
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suspectIm back.04:44
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suspectHello.04:47
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me2winhello Excaliber04:47
ExcaliberHello.04:48
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ExcaliberWhatsup?04:48
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DeadS0uli'm getting a lot of time outs on nfs dirs for some reason04:54
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ExcaliberOh.04:56
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ExcaliberYou need any help?04:59
Tm_Twho? me?04:59
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Tm_Tcccc__: what's this all jumping?05:00
Distro^Junkieinstalled dapper and getting an error when adept starts up05:00
Distro^JunkieCould not find mime type05:00
Distro^Junkieapplication/octet-stream05:00
ExcaliberAnyone need help?05:00
Tm_Twhoo05:00
Distro^JunkieNo mime types installed.05:00
Tm_TExcaliber: I do05:00
ExcaliberOk.05:00
Tm_TDistro^Junkie: use apt05:00
ExcaliberWhats the problem?05:00
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Tm_TDistro^Junkie: I know you can do05:01
Tm_TExcaliber: I have huge problem with my ego05:01
me2winDistro^Junkie: It does that for me too, I'm convinved it's a bug in dapper05:01
ExcaliberYour ego?05:01
Tm_TExcaliber: can you give some boost to me? ;)05:01
Tm_Tyeah05:01
ExcaliberWHat does that have to do with kubuntu?05:01
Excaliberlol05:01
Tm_T...well, because...05:01
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Distro^Junkiehmm ran adept again and its getting the updates05:01
Tm_TExcaliber: everything?05:02
ExcaliberHmm.05:02
ExcaliberWell i can't help you with everything.lol05:02
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Tm_Tbah05:02
Tm_TExcaliber: ok, here's another one05:02
ExcaliberOk.05:02
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Tm_TExcaliber: my toe is hurting05:03
Excaliberoh05:03
Excaliberwow05:03
Excaliberthats not kubuntu05:03
Tm_Tindeed05:03
Tm_Tit's not?05:03
Excaliberthats kutoetu05:03
Tm_Tah then, I'llignore it05:03
Excaliberlol05:03
ambassadorhottoo... so this must be ircing...05:04
ExcaliberYes.05:04
Tm_Tambassador: I don't think so, this is almost intelligent05:04
ExcaliberDoes anyone need any kubuntu help?05:04
Tm_TExcaliber: why you're asking that =)05:04
ExcaliberBecause i want to help.05:04
Tm_Taah05:04
_jeff_lol go ex05:04
ExcaliberI love o help people.05:04
HobbseeExcaliber: i need a "cd /home/hobbsee/brain dpkg --reconfigure brain05:04
Hobbseeor whatever it was05:04
ExcaliberWell at least try to help.05:05
Excaliber= )05:05
ambassadorwell I think almost everyone needs some kubuntu help... after all one can get kubuntu all messed up by just installing one package05:05
_jeff_go ex05:05
me2winHobbsee: i have that right here for you one sec....05:05
me2win!lart Hobbsee05:05
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me2win:P05:05
Hobbseehehe05:05
Tm_TExcaliber: well, mind to try to compile Kopete 0.12 with jingle support and then call me? just for testing?05:05
ExcaliberCompile kopete for what.05:05
ExcaliberJust y\use gaim.05:05
me2winExcaliber: exactly :D05:05
Excaliberuse*05:05
_jeff_for some reason i cant get amarok-engines off the repos05:06
Excaliber= D05:06
_jeff_it says the package is broken05:06
Tm_TExcaliber: ...don't you _ever_ say that again to me, ok?!05:06
ExcaliberPlease be patient.05:06
me2winlol05:06
Excaliberlol05:06
Hobbseenight05:07
Excalibernight05:07
ExcaliberIts not night time.05:07
ExcaliberT \05:07
jpatrickanyone else's MSN died?05:08
Excaliberno.05:08
ambassadorhmm... okay now a stupid question that doesn't relate to kubuntu in any way: how do I join a chat channel? something like #mychannel right?05:08
me2winjpatrick: its been dead in my eyes for years now ;(05:08
me2winambassador: /j #mychannel05:08
wincidejpatrick:  mine is died too05:08
ambassadorhotto... danke danke...05:08
me2winde nada05:08
Excaliberyou type join05:09
Excaliberwith the /05:09
Excaliberthe #mychannel05:09
Excaliberthen*05:09
Excaliber1./2.join3.#mychannel05:09
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Excaliber!tell ambassador about irc05:10
jpatrickhow fun05:10
Tm_Tjpatrick: always05:10
Tm_Tjpatrick: somehow kde4 stuff is badly broken this time of year ;)05:11
Excaliber= \05:11
ambassadorkk... hmm.. I'm guessing that I have to have a password cause I got an message "You need to be identified to join that channel"05:11
ExcaliberKDE kubuntu is the best05:11
ambassadoralmost the best05:11
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me2winmy fan speed controller broke, so I got a replacement for it and the company is taking forever to send it back. And it's making me angry because I have like 1 fan operating when I normally have 605:11
ExcaliberYes it looks n ice.05:11
Tm_TExcaliber: well well well, but you can't do developing with it ;)05:11
Excaliber= )05:11
ExcaliberLooks better than ubuntu correct?05:11
ambassadorlol why not?05:11
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_jeff_kubuntu rules05:12
ambassadorofcourse you can do developing...05:12
_jeff_pwnz bitches05:12
ExcaliberWatch the language.05:12
Tm_Tambassador: ...not KDE4 developing05:12
Tm_Tambassador: not that I do that either =)05:12
Excaliber= )05:12
ExcaliberAny of ya know a little Python?05:13
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jpatrickMe05:13
ambassadorTm_T: okay now I make a fool of my self and ask what is KDE4 developing?05:13
ambassadorI can code python too... lol05:13
ExcaliberI know a little python.05:13
ExcaliberI'm up to lesson 4.05:13
Tm_Tambassador: well, you know, err, look! bird!05:13
ambassadorthat reminds me of a stupid problem that I'm having with a opengl python code at the moment...05:13
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ambassadorHAAA *caught it'05:14
MacAnthonyLesson 4 in what Excaliber?05:14
jpatrickPython05:14
ExcaliberPython.05:14
ambassadorsome book I assume...05:14
ExcaliberIt's easy05:14
ambassadorlol try C++... its not easy XD05:14
MacAnthonyI know, I meant for what tutorial05:14
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jpatrickambassador: a bit05:14
Excaliberx=int(raw_input("Please enter an integer: "))05:14
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MacAnthonywas curious what you were going through05:15
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Excaliber= )05:15
Distro^Junkiebeen a while since I've used kubuntu but am still amazed at it05:15
ExcaliberPython is almost like C.05:15
ambassadorwell... not quite...05:15
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Excaliberuses a little C.05:15
Nigeyany1 had probs with installing on vmware, i just get a lockup :|05:16
ExcaliberNo.05:16
ambassadorwell you can code some modules with C... yes... but the basic structure of python and the syntax differs from C a lot05:16
Excalibersudo apt-get install vmware05:16
Nigeyi mean with kubuntu as the guest not host05:16
ExcaliberOh.05:16
Nigeymine jus locks up cold on uncompressing kernel :S05:16
Excaliberapt-get install wmware05:16
Excalibervmware*05:17
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ExcaliberIn terminal.05:17
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corvuxI'm trying to install kubuntu to have the standard kde appearance, but it keeps coming up looking like the old original ubuntu dektop...I used "sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop" and then "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop",....what am I missing?05:17
ExcaliberLook at the bottom right corner on startup05:18
ExcaliberWhen typing you user name and pw.05:18
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corvuxExcaliber, was that directed to me?05:19
ExcaliberYes.05:19
corvuxthanks05:19
ExcaliberNp.05:19
trappistcow_2001: removing ubuntu-desktop won't do anything05:19
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noaXesshi all..05:20
noaXesshow can i convert dvr-ms video files to mpg?05:20
trappistcow_2001: installing kubuntu-desktop *should* install kdm, whereupon you should be asked whether you'd like to use gdm or kdm, and once you're using kdm you'll want to select kde as your desktop environment05:20
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trappistnoaXess: mencoder05:20
ExcaliberI don't know about converting audio  or video files.05:21
ambassadordoes anyone know with what function I can measure time in python? I have tried Timer but for some reason it stops running after 4 runs...05:21
ExcaliberI know how to convert .rpm files to .deb files.05:21
Excalibersudo alien05:21
noaXesstrappist: oke..05:21
Excaliberam i correct?05:21
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trappistExcaliber: yes.05:21
ExcaliberOk.05:21
noaXesstrappist: is mencoder a kubuntu package?05:22
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nxv_?suspend05:22
nxv_? suspend05:22
jpatrickambassador: import time05:22
jpatrickafter that I don't remember......05:23
Excaliberhmm.05:23
nxv_how can i use suspend 2 ram or disc with dapper05:23
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jpatrickKPowerSave05:24
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ambassadorjpatrick hmmm... I need some kind of function reference for the time lib... othervise it is pretty useless...05:24
ExcaliberUbuntu is random becuase so many people have problems with it.05:25
Excaliber= \05:25
ambassadorthere is a one at www.python.org but didn't get much out of it...05:25
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thompawhere is ksensors?05:26
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Excaliberlocate ksnsors05:27
Excaliberksensors*05:27
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noaXessdvr-ms to mpeg??05:40
noaXessmencoder.. but is it a kubuntu package05:40
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ExcaliberHello,.05:47
noaXesshi05:47
Kamping_Kaiserhi05:48
jpatrickhi05:50
Kamping_Kaiserhows it going jpatrick05:50
jpatrickbad05:50
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Kamping_Kaiserheh. ditto05:50
jpatrickloads of homework still in TODO queue by tomorrow05:50
Kamping_Kaisernasty stuff homework05:51
Kamping_Kaiseri'm trying to find a good way to recover my partition table05:51
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mlehrerkde & gaim don't get anti-aliasing but Firefox does - any idea why05:57
mlehrerdoes firefox do the fonts on the client box?  i am using xdmcp to connect to the box with kubuntu05:57
mpathyFor what kind of programming KDevelop makes the most sense? Is it also a recognizeable IDE for scripting languages?05:59
mpathyHi there, first..05:59
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Kamping_Kaiserhi mpathy, it should do whatever you need it to. depending on your language there may be a betterchoice thouth06:00
Kamping_Kaiser*better choice though06:00
Kamping_Kaisermlehrer, firefox may have got speical treatment06:01
noaXesshow to convert dvr-ms to mpeg??06:01
Kamping_Kaiserthere may be a gtk-> qt conversion engine06:01
Kamping_KaisernoaXess, whats dvr-ms?06:01
noaXessKamping_Kaiser: its the m$ mediacenter recodring format..06:01
mpathyKamping_Kaiser: I asked because of my try to have a qt / kde only enviroment.. I mostly do things in python..06:02
Kamping_Kaisergood luck.....06:02
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Kamping_Kaisermpathy, it should do python fine, i use vim as my ide :$06:02
Kamping_Kaiservim > *06:02
Kamping_Kaiserexcept maybe emacs, havent used it enough to decide06:03
mpathyKamping_Kaiser: yeah sure vim is the swiss army knife, that I have with me in every enviroment ;) but I ask mostly because of special convinience functions of some other tools?06:04
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Kamping_Kaisermpathy, i have only coded python in vim, so although there are probably tools in the repos, i hvet tried them sorry06:06
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mpathyokay06:06
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slow-motionre06:16
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ccc_hmm, cell@host-87-74-36-66.bulldogdsl.com seems to have a problem. constant parting/joining and has 4 ghosts up only on this channel. similar nick to me too, so i'm scared i'll be banned ;)06:19
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mitakkaA video player with ciryllic subtitles wanted.$100 000 000 reward :))))06:28
mlehrerfor $100 million (in advance) i'm sure i could come up with one06:29
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mitakkaOk give me yor account number06:31
mitakkaI know about mplayer but it is not in a good relationship with kubuntu06:33
mitakkaAnd all this for fucking KDE06:33
Tm_T?06:33
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mitakkaUbuntu has no problems with mplayer06:34
Tm_Tmitakka: you can use mplayer in KDE just fine06:34
mitakkabut Kubuntu.............06:34
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mitakkain kubuntu???????06:34
Snake__Yea...06:34
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mitakkauffff but i tried06:35
mitakkawith adept, and synaptic06:35
mitakkaI have to comile it???06:35
douglasHey everyone, Let's say I shared a folder in windows with write permissions, and I wanted to do that exact same thing in linux, how do I do that, I believe I have samba configured correctly but what about fstab?06:35
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douglasHey!06:38
noaXessho06:38
douglaslet's go06:39
douglasHey everyone, Let's say I shared a folder in windows with write permissions, and I wanted to do that exact same thing in linux, how do I do that, I believe I have samba configured correctly but what about fstab?06:39
uniqdouglas: you don't need to do anything with fstab.06:39
douglasThen why can't I write to the drive?06:39
uniqhow did you mount it?06:39
douglasin fstab?06:39
uniqdid you mount the windows-share in linux with fstab?06:40
ccc_mitakka: you install it the exact same way you install it in ubuntu. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto06:40
douglasno, I have a linux server running smbd and I want to share a folder and give everyone read and write permissions.06:40
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douglasCurrently I can't write to it, evern though I have the option "read only = no" in my smb.conf06:40
noaXesshow to convert dvr-ms to mpeg??06:41
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douglasuniq: Is there any other option I need to set?06:43
mitakkaoki i will try AGAIN :)06:43
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tomplasthi06:43
tomplastcany anyone tell me if there is anyway to bypass "streamripper rejected by server" in amarok?06:44
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eugmanI know this has nothing to do with kubuntu specifically but ubuntu is way to crowded; What's the best way to turn a terminal command into a desktop icon?06:44
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noaXessis there a kubunut package for mplayer06:48
leeghoofdhey, is it possible to play with xgl in kubuntu (kde) dapper?06:48
douglasPerhaps someone can show me their smb.conf which leaves a share completely open, read and write to any user?06:49
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noaXessdouglas: yea.. just a minute06:50
douglasnoaXess: Thanks06:51
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tomplastanyone using streamripper?06:51
douglasno06:51
douglasnot here06:52
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tomplast:'(06:53
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tomplasti really wanna ripp virgin radio :'(06:53
tomplasti really love that channel :'(06:53
douglasyar06:53
noaXessdouglas: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/66530506:53
noaXessis there a kubuntu package for mplayer?06:54
uniqdouglas: you need to make sure the guest user have write access to the directory you share.06:54
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tomplastnoaXess: using dapper or breezy?06:54
noaXessbreezy06:55
tomplasthmm, wait a second06:55
douglasuniq: Can I do that with chown -R 0777 /path/to/folder ?06:55
douglasuniq: Is there any other commands I should run?06:55
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munzirHi, I installed kmldonkey but it's not working. even mldonkey_server is not as shown at: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12453 any hint please?06:56
tomplastnoaXess: try to add  deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ testing main to the repository06:57
tomplastnoaXess: that should do it, i hope :)06:57
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noaXesstomplast: ok i try..06:58
noaXesstomplast: can mplayer convert dvr-ms to mpeg?06:58
tomplastnoaXess: dvr-ms?06:59
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noaXesstomplast: the m$ mediacenter recording format..06:59
tomplastnoaXess: i haven't tried to do some converting that much so im afraid that you will have to consult some one else on that question06:59
douglasDoesn't transcode do something like that?06:59
tomplastyeah, that could be true06:59
tomplastbut i wonder if it supports windows format07:00
tomplastdont forget to install w32codecs noaXess07:00
douglaswww.mplayerhq.hu07:00
douglasI believe you can get a giant codec pack from there07:00
tomplastyeah, but isnt w32codecs best?07:00
tomplastim using it and can play almost everything07:00
noaXesstomplast: is w32codecs for all video player?07:01
douglasand then transcode can use mplayer in conjunction with the codecs to "transcode"07:01
douglasthere's a giant pack that includes the w32codecs07:01
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tomplastis it?07:01
v3ctoryou can install w32codecs via apt07:01
douglastrue07:01
tomplastmm07:01
tomplastbtw, can anyone help me with streamripper :'(?07:01
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v3ctorhttp://www.cs.cornell.edu/~djm/ubuntu/index.htm#codecs07:02
tomplasti really record some radio and get free music :P07:02
tomplastwanna07:02
srednaKprinter is broken un my fully updated dapper system :(07:03
noaXesstomplast: Failed to fetch ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/dists/testing/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz07:03
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tomplasttry to replace testing with etch07:04
tomplastthat should work07:04
tomplasti could access  it then :)07:04
noaXesstomplast: better07:04
noaXesstomplast: now an error  GPG error07:05
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tomplasthmm, yeah... i dont remember exactly and i must go :(07:05
mhterreshi07:05
tomplastsorry07:05
tomplastbut these guys can help you :)07:05
tomplasti hope you will get it working :)07:06
tomplasti dont know if the gpg error is fatal btw07:06
tomplastcould work anyway, not sure07:06
tomplastgood luck07:06
Vgehttp://kubuntu.pastebin.com/665338 <-- somebody can say why my internet wont work, works fine trought this vmware that im using atm, but not trought kubuntu?07:06
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Vgeand the confiquration is correct there07:06
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ExcaliberHello.07:07
SeantaterVge: I see your problem: wired or wireless07:07
Vgewired, wireless aint working at all atm07:07
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Vgewell i just want the wired to start working07:08
SeantaterWhich are you _trying_ to use, not which _works_07:08
ExcaliberAny of ya need some help.?07:08
SeantaterExcaliber: yes, Vge07:08
ExcaliberWhats the problem?07:08
Vge_()/ :)07:08
SeantaterVge is explaing that now07:08
Vgeshoot07:09
Seantaterexcalibur: read vge's paserbin07:09
ExcaliberVge: Whats the problem?07:09
Vgeohh sry, i misred07:09
Vgewell misconfiquration in /etc/network/interfaces07:09
Vge http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/665338 <-- somebody can say why my internet wont work, works fine trought this vmware that im using atm, but not trought kubuntu?07:09
Vgewired is not working07:10
ExcaliberHmm.07:10
ExcaliberWhat kind of connection do you have?07:10
SeantaterVge: Ethernet?07:10
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Vgeethernet needs to start working, and it "works" cos im using it trought windows in vmware atm07:10
v3ctortry removing the "network 192.168.0.0" line07:11
Vgesec07:11
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SeantaterVge: try turning off the ethernet and then back on07:11
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SeantaterVge: Perhaps vmware and Linu\x cannot use the same wire at the same time07:12
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VgeSeantater: yes it can, cos i have done that before07:12
Vgev3ctor: that didint help07:12
Seantatervge: new to me, I've never use vmware07:12
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SeantaterIs it standard ethernet (10/100), with run-of-the mill netword card?07:13
ExcaliberJust unplug the modem from the electricty.07:13
ExcaliberAnd plug it back in.07:13
ExcaliberIt should work then.07:13
v3ctordoes ifconfig -a show eth0 ?07:13
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SeantaterVge: what are you connecting to? Router, another computer, etc?07:14
ExcaliberWait what kind of modem do you have??07:14
ExcaliberOptimum?07:14
v3ctor`sudo mii-tool` see if it has link07:15
ExcaliberVge07:15
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Vgeyuo07:15
ExcaliberVge: What kind of connection do you have?07:15
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DeadS0ulgod dammit07:15
Vgerouter would be closest i guess07:16
ExcaliberOh.07:16
DeadS0ulis anyone else having trouble with nfs? i keep getting time outs07:16
ExcaliberDo you have the router next to you or something?07:16
SeantaterDeadS0ul: Nfs never wotrked for me: I use sshfs07:16
Vgewell, it's a school dorm or something07:16
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ExcaliberWell if you have the router with you then unplug it the plug it back in.07:17
ExcaliberThen it should work.07:17
Vgenaah, connection works fine. i get confused with english terms sometimes, it's just a lan07:19
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ExcaliberOh.07:20
ExcaliberThen i dont know07:20
Excaliberlol07:20
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ExcaliberSorry.07:20
sunilhmm07:20
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Excaliberhmm07:20
Excaliberhow do i do a certain command with irc like hide07:21
v3ctorVge: did you try `sudo mii-tool` ?07:21
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Excalibernevermind07:21
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ExcaliberOk.07:23
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munzirHi, I installed kmldonkey but it's not working. even mldonkey_server is not as shown at: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12453 any hint please?07:25
ExcaliberHmm.07:26
Excaliberdid you try sudo apt-get install software.07:26
ExcaliberOn the terminal07:27
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ninHerhi all07:27
ExcaliberHi.07:27
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xbox_skyI just added another panel (bottom) but evrytime I edit it , the top panel gets changed, how the fruit do you edit the bottom panel ONLY?07:28
Dr_Willisedit what exactly?07:29
xbox_skysize of the panel from 100% - 50%07:29
ExcaliberHmm.07:30
xbox_skyevrytime I do that, top panel gets changed07:30
xbox_skybut I want to change bottom panel ONLY07:30
ExcaliberWait you talking about ubuntu?07:30
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xbox_skyI thought by right clicking on the panel I want, should mark it up for an edit07:30
ExcaliberYou should go to ubuntu server07:30
Excaliber!tell xbox_sky to go to #ubuntu server channel07:31
xbox_skyis there a difference between ubuntu w KDE and kubuntu?07:31
xbox_skyI am in #ubuntu as well07:31
xbox_skythey told me to join #kubuntu07:31
_vgeExcaliber: donno what reboot does, but it usually works :)07:31
ExcaliberHmm07:31
Excaliber= D07:31
ExcaliberReboot is restarting the computer.07:31
Excaliberxbox_sky: are you using ubuntu?07:31
_vgei know, but i tought "restarting the network" is usually the same07:32
xbox_skyEx, i'm using ubuntu w KDE07:32
xbox_skywhat's the diff between ubuntu (KDE) vs kubuntu?07:32
ExcaliberKDE is better = D07:33
Excaliberlol07:33
ExcaliberIt has KDE desktop.07:33
xbox_skyheh07:33
xbox_skyso it's the same then07:33
ExcaliberAnd it looks cooler.07:33
xbox_skyaka i'm in the right place07:33
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ExcaliberYou should install it07:34
ExcaliberYou have it installed?07:34
xbox_skyinstall what?07:34
ExcaliberKubuntu07:34
ExcaliberYou would still have ubuntu.07:34
xbox_skyno.. I started out with ubuntu, a few weeks later I replaced GNOME with KDE07:34
ExcaliberAnd your account.07:34
xbox_skybut isn't kubuntu just ubuntu w KDE?07:35
v3ctoror is it unbuntu without gnome?07:35
Tm_Txbox_sky: Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE instead of Gnome07:35
Tm_Txbox_sky: + some nice artwork and tools07:35
xbox_skyas I thought, tx07:36
v3ctorwhat you have is ubuntu with gnome and kde07:36
xbox_skythen I'm in the right place07:36
xbox_skyV3, I have ubuntu with KDE not GNOME07:36
_vgeis unbuntu ubuntu with server install? ;)07:36
v3ctordid you apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop?07:36
Tm_Tv3ctor: that doesn't remove anything really07:36
xbox_skyso about panels... how do you edit your newly added panel (bottom) ?07:36
v3ctorlol07:36
xbox_skyI have the libs v3ctor if that's what you're asking07:37
Tm_Tv3ctor: stop that, you're not helping any07:37
ExcaliberYes kubuntu is ubuntu with KDE.07:37
Tm_Txbox_sky: well, use right click in it07:37
ExcaliberAnd it has way more features.07:37
xbox_skyTm I have07:37
nico8481xbox_sky: you probably installed kde "by hand" with Apt-get install kde-something, kubuntu can be seen as a "meta-package" (one exists, named kubuntu-desktop) that installs everything related to a kde destkop so basically it's rather the same07:37
xbox_skyand when I right click it configure panel07:37
_vgexbox_sky: you can edit them by secondclicking them or using kcontrol07:37
xbox_skyONLY the TOP gets edited, despite I right clicked on the bottom panel07:38
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xbox_skynico8481 yeah that's what I did07:38
Tm_Txbox_sky: well, wait right there07:38
nico8481xbox_sky: what did you "apt-get"? kubuntu-desktop? or the kde packages ?07:39
Tm_Txbox_sky: when you go to "Configure - KDE panel" in the first page about in the middle top there is dropdown list07:39
Tm_Tnico8481: doesn't matter07:39
v3ctorreally doesn't matter07:39
Tm_Tnico8481: irrelevant07:39
nico8481Tm_T: no i know it doesn't07:39
Excalibersudo apt-get install kde07:39
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Tm_Tnico8481: why you're asking then =)07:39
nico8481Tm_T: just to clarify its "that's what i did" :)07:39
Tm_Tyouare just causing noise when some of us are trying to help him07:39
xbox_skyin the config option I have a few settings like Position/Length/Size07:39
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nico8481Tm_T: i think i did provide clarification, not noise... read what i wrote07:40
Tm_Txbox_sky: yes, top of it there's dropdownlist, "Settings for: "07:40
xbox_skyit doesn't matter what setting I pick ,because the TOP panel is the only one who receives the changes07:40
Excaliber!tell xbox_sky how to install kubuntu07:40
Tm_Toh my...07:40
Excalibergod07:40
xbox_skyExcaliber, wtf?07:40
v3ctorxbox_sky: there is a drop menu to choose what panel to change07:41
Excaliberlol07:41
xbox_skyyou think it's funny+07:41
ExcaliberI tried to make ubotu to send you a tutorial.07:41
ExcaliberHe said no.lol07:41
xbox_skyI know about the bot excalibur, I have an issue regarding panels and you want me to install kubuntu?07:41
ExcaliberI wasn't paying attention.07:41
ExcaliberI thought ya was talking about installin kubuntu.07:42
xbox_skyv3ctor hmm07:42
xbox_skyExcaliber oh ok np07:42
Excaliber= )07:42
v3ctorxbox_sky: i was able to create top panel and change it's size07:42
Tm_Txbox_sky: as I said... 20:40 < Tm_T> xbox_sky: yes, top of it there's dropdownlist, "Settings for: "07:42
Tm_Txbox_sky: you select the panel you like to configure07:43
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v3ctorshould have choice of "main panel" and "panel"07:43
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Tm_Tyup07:43
ExcaliberWell i have to go.07:43
ExcaliberBye everyone.07:43
Excaliber= D07:43
xbox_skylet me grab you a screenie07:44
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adaranhello everyone. i am missing thunderbird, or rather, i can't find it on the menu. where is it supposed to be?07:44
Tm_Txbox_sky: ooh I love screenies :)07:44
Tm_Tadaran: good question07:45
Tm_Tadaran: I think in "internet" but, if it's not there... use run dialog?07:46
adaranTm_T: hmm i'd love to have it on the menu, but kmenuedit doesn't work very well, too07:46
adaranah, well, i'll check it later. thanks07:46
xbox_skyTm_T http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v32/Skynet/?action=view&current=mdesk12.jpg07:46
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Tm_Txbox_sky: that's ... err, is it KDE 3.5.2?07:48
Tm_Tbecause07:48
v3ctorhttp://v3ctor.org/~simon/v3ctor_panel.png07:48
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xbox_skywow v3ctor, I don't have an option like that07:49
xbox_skyTm_T yeah?07:49
Tm_Txbox_sky: well, you should have option like in v3ctor's screenshot07:49
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xbox_skyyeah but as you can see I don't... should I re-install KDE or something?07:50
xbox_skyKDE 3.5.2 here07:50
errpast-wcInstalling Ubuntu via PXE network boot is the way to go if you have no cd-r at hand or if you have no cdrom at all.07:50
errpast-wcAfter reading Installation of Woody with PXE (http://www.debianplanet.com/node.php?id=818&cid=13384) it wasn't hard to setup a PXE boot environment.07:50
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eduardohi07:51
xbox_skyI solved it07:51
eduardohow are you guys07:51
Tm_Txbox_sky: whoo, what was it07:51
xbox_skythanks for your help Tm_T/v3ctor, tx alot guys ^_^07:51
eduardohey i have a problem with kubuntu07:52
v3ctornp07:52
Tm_Teduardo: go on07:52
eduardoi cant play MP3 music07:52
Tm_T!mp307:52
dave__Winamp  5.20 Stopped07:52
v3ctorTm_T: see....i can be helpful ;P07:52
ubotu[mp3]  a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats07:52
xbox_skytmt I closed down the screen a few times, and when I started it up again, there was this "setting" bar just as in v3 screenie07:52
Tm_Tv3ctor: can you? ;)07:52
v3ctorlol07:52
Tm_Txbox_sky: heh07:52
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xbox_sky^_^07:53
eduardothey i wouldnt be able to play mp3 music?07:53
eduardowhat can i do?07:53
Tm_T20:52 < ubotu> [mp3]  a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats07:53
Tm_TI feel like I'm repeating07:53
Tm_Teduardo: there's your answer07:54
eduardosorry hehe07:54
Tm_T;)07:54
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eduardoi tried already07:55
eduardobut an error occurs07:55
eduardoits says something about Dependences07:56
Tm_Teduardo: how about pasting the whole thing to kubuntu.pastebin.com and we have a look, ok?07:57
Tm_Teduardo: and paste the url of your paste to here ;)07:58
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eduardommm let me c08:00
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eduardohey how can i remove all access restrictions of a folder into /opt. so i can create new foldes into that one08:01
eduardorename its files and modify them??08:02
Tm_Terr?08:02
eduardo???????????????????/08:02
Tm_Twhy you need to create stuff to /opt?08:02
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eduardohave you heard about XAMMP?08:02
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eduardoit is install into /opt08:02
Tm_Tok08:03
Tm_Tnever heard08:03
eduardoanyways. do u know how to remove access restrictions of a file? or folder??08:03
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eduardoaccess restrictions and permissions08:04
Tm_T!cli08:04
ubotuCLI means Command Line Interface, aka the terminal or console. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/ or http://www.tuxfiles.org08:04
eduardoso any user can modify the file and folder08:04
Tm_Teduardo: there you go08:04
eduardook let me c man. as you notice i am new at this is stuff. but kubuntu is freaking good, inst  ir?08:05
Tm_Tit is08:05
Tm_TI wouldn't be here otherwise ;)08:05
eduardoyeah i would say08:06
eduardoi have tried a lot of another distros and i didnt like no one08:07
Distro^Junkieis there extra despositories needed to be added for dapper ?08:07
Distro^Junkiedepositories*08:07
Distro^Junkielol08:07
Distro^Junkiecan't type today08:07
Distro^Junkierepositories08:08
Distro^Junkiethere we go08:08
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Distro^Junkiehttp://www.macewan.org/2006/03/23/dapper-repositories/  <--- how up to date is this dapper sources.list ?08:14
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h3sp4wn <Distro^Junkie> : Would you trust anything with http://soulmachine.net/breezy/ /unstable/ in it ?08:23
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h3sp4wnor deb http://gefechtsdienst.de/uman/files/ unstable main - I know I wouldn't08:24
waylandbillhow does one configure the MTA to use another SMTP server for sending mail (don't deliver locally)08:24
adaranokay, another try: i've installed mozilla-firefox and mozilla-thunderbird. i've closed my kde session, killed the Xserver and logged back in, stil there's no firefox or thunderbird on my menu. what could be wrong there?08:25
Distro^Junkieh3sp4wn: sorry didn't see that08:25
Distro^Junkiewhere a good sources'list to use ?08:26
Distro^Junkiewhere's*08:26
ccc_Distro^Junkie: just change 'breezy' to 'dapper' in your sources.list and do a dist-upgrade.08:26
Tm_T!sources08:26
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource08:26
Tm_Toff ->08:26
Distro^Junkiealready using dapper ccc_08:26
ccc_oh ok08:26
Distro^JunkieE: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)08:29
Distro^JunkieE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?08:29
Distro^Junkieran sudo apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade08:29
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jindiazryanakca: hey yu there man?08:35
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h3sp4wn <Distro^Junkie> - sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock - If you are sure synaptic etc is definately not running08:36
Distro^Junkiethanx08:36
johnshaftHi. I just installed kubuntu-desktop. When I log into KDE none of my windows have any borders, titlebars, or buttons. Can anyone help?08:37
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jindiazi cant belive how hard it is to set up more then one drive in kubuntu... i swear dapper better have friggin automatic drive detection or something... jesus christ ive been at this for a day and a half...08:46
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ryanakcajindiaz: yeah08:48
ryanakcajindiaz: I was upstairs making pancakes, what's up?08:49
jindiazryanakca: lol.  hey remeber yu helped me with the fisk thing right?  do yu knoe how to set up multiple drives?  im having SERIOUS issues08:50
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ryanakcajindiaz: fisk? multiple drives? when was that?08:51
v3ctorprobably fdisk08:51
ryanakcajindiaz: I have no clue about that stuff....08:51
ryanakcajindiaz: multiple drives... I'd google "/etc/fstab"08:52
jindiazwell no, yu helped me with fdisk getting the first drive up and runng08:52
jindiaznow im on to the second08:52
v3ctoryou talking about raid or just having multiple drive on system?08:52
ryanakcajindiaz: all I usually do is findout what device it is (/dev/hda1 or /dev/hdb2 or /dev/had3 or /dev/whatever), and add an entry to /etc/fstab...08:53
v3ctoryou can use `fdisk -l` to see what drives are visible08:53
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AljoshaNLhow can i play mp3 in kubuntu flight 6 amarok?08:54
AljoshaNLi can only play ogg08:54
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Aikurn!mp308:54
dave__Winamp  5.20 Stopped08:54
ubotumethinks mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats08:54
h3sp4wnaptitude install amarok-xine08:54
v3ctorogg are much better anyhow08:54
solanis there an easy way to go from ubuntu to kubuntu without reinstalling?08:55
AljoshaNLsudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop08:55
h3sp4wnaptitude install libxine-extracodecs08:55
solanthat's it?08:55
v3ctorthats it08:55
johnshaftHi. I just installed kubuntu-desktop. When I log into KDE none of my windows have any borders, titlebars, or buttons. Can anyone help?08:55
solanhmmm.... didn't experct it to be that easy;)08:55
solanwhen I install kubuntu-desktop, can I still run gnome-desktop or does it replace it completly?08:56
johnshaftYou can run both.08:57
AljoshaNLjeah08:57
AljoshaNLof course :)08:57
AljoshaNLi STILL cant play mp3 in amarok08:57
crimsunwhich engine are you using for amarok?08:58
johnshaftI am running Gnome and it works fine. KDE has no window borders for me tho :(08:58
AljoshaNLXINE08:58
solancan I choose on boot or something? I'm not completly sure if I want to use KDE og GNOME..08:58
Aikurnhave you followed the wiki page for restricted formats?08:58
AljoshaNLnope :$ just did the 2 aptitudes08:58
v3ctorjohnshaft: mv ~/.kde ~/.kde.OLD08:59
v3ctorand try again08:59
johnshaftv3ctor: Thanx. I'll try that.09:00
AljoshaNLi have no libxine-extracodecs package09:00
crimsunbreezy?09:00
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AljoshaNLno dapper09:00
crimsunyou don't multiverse enabled09:00
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AljoshaNLcould someone send me his/her sources.list please?09:08
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Aikurnyou could use http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic09:09
jpatrick!sources09:10
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AljoshaNLi have it enabled and still no libxine-extracodecs09:13
AljoshaNLepinephrine: Package libxine-extracodecs has no installation candidate09:13
epinephrine?09:14
AljoshaNLsorry, copy and pasta eroor09:14
AljoshaNLdont mind09:14
crimsun  Version table:09:14
crimsun     1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 009:14
crimsun        500 http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/multiverse Packages09:14
epinephrineok :P09:14
jpatrickmultiverse..09:14
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AljoshaNLdoesnt work09:16
AljoshaNLcan somebody just give me a good sources.list?09:16
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dell500i'm thinkin' of gettin' a seagate 300gb, SATAII internal HD... do they make USB SATAII enclosures? would it be more useful internal or could it be used as internal without much of a speed los09:28
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scott_v3ctor: Tried deleting .kde didn't help with my window borders missing in KDE09:29
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q00pdell500: why not just get an external SATA drive? much faster than usb09:29
dell500how does that hook up?09:30
q00pdell500: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.asp?DEPA=0&type=&Description=sata+external&Submit=ENE&Ntk=all&N=0&minPrice=&maxPrice=&Go.x=0&Go.y=009:30
dell500only reason why i want an external compared to the internal is so i can use it as a portable drive to distrobute music and such09:30
MachineScrewdell500: you need a sata card that has external connectors09:31
v3ctorscott_: try changing themes etc..09:31
q00pdell500: MachineScrew is right sorry ;-) but they're probably there if you can support SATAII internally09:31
MachineScrewdell500: as fast as internal09:31
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dell500well i think i have 4 internal sata connectors... but not SATAII.09:32
MachineScrewdell500: there are09:32
scott_I tried that - sort of. The control panel comes up with the bottom half of the window off the screen. Since I can't move the window I can't get to the apply button09:32
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scott_Is there a way to move a window in KDE without having a titlebar?09:32
netkid91Don't think so09:32
netkid91Wait, corrected myself09:33
MachineScrewscott_: hold down alt then click any where on the window and move the window09:33
v3ctorno title bar on window?09:33
netkid91Beat me to it XD09:33
q00pMachineScrew: you keep beating me to the punch ;-)09:33
MachineScrewlol09:33
scott_Nope. No titlebar. No buttons. Nada.09:33
q00pscott_: also try alt-F3 to get a control menu09:33
netkid91Scott: Try changing your window dexs in the sys settings09:33
scott_dexs?09:34
v3ctoryes09:34
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netkid91*decs09:34
scott_Sorry. Still don't quite understand. What do you mean by *decs?09:34
netkid91Window Dec's = Window Decorations09:34
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scott_Ahh. Ok. Thanks guys. I'll try that. Will drop off for a few mins while I log back in under KDE.09:35
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netkid91Gah...stupid apt-get, my screen locked, interupted it and now I'm going through hell to fix dependincies.....Oh well...No where near as bad as when I was using RPM's, *shuuder*09:36
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uroshi all! have terrible problem - was playing around with KDE to test it and somehow enabled translucency. The computer is now so slow, it is unusable. In system settings (appearance/style/effects) it is off, however still enabled, even after multiple restart. somebody help me get it off, please09:37
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netkid91Uhmm....09:37
netkid91Try deleting your ~/.kde folder, if you fsck up the settings to the point of extreme error and can't fix it that is always the first thing to do(except it erases all your KDE settings),09:38
urosnetkid91: after restart will it work?09:38
netkid91uros: Hell, you don't even need to reboot your machine, just log off and log back in09:39
OutoLumomenu translucency, or what kind of translucency?09:39
kronozi installed kubuntu-desktop to my default ubuntu installation but when I start kde if I click anywhere on the kicker it will crash then reappear, right clicking show their is no log out and lock session buttons either09:39
netkid91I think it's window tansluceny09:39
dell500what's the difference between the speed of SATA and USB?09:39
netkid91A LOT09:40
netkid91USB = ~54MBS, SATA=150MBS09:40
urosi think so too - the whole windows are translucent. it looks great, but is completely unusable on this machine09:40
dell500i thought USB2.0 was like 48009:40
netkid91Nope09:40
netkid91That would be firewire, AKA IEE139409:40
netkid91*IEEE139409:40
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netkid91SATA is still a better bet than external drives09:41
OutoLumouros, try  System Settings -> Desktop -> Window Behavior -> translucency09:41
dell500well i'm trying to get a fast solution for backup storage09:41
dell500such as a 300 or 400gb internal converted to external to be cheaper09:42
netkid91Backup....Just set up a RAID1 array...09:42
dell500well i have a raid0 array that is holding my backup now09:42
netkid91No, no, no09:43
netkid91Raid0 = BAD09:43
dell500but i'm gonna put ubuntu/gentoo on one sata and have the other 120 sata for storage for internal, then another 120 internal ide for windows09:43
dell500ya i know lol09:43
dell500that's why i wanna get rid of it soon09:43
netkid91Just mirror your main HD to another with a RAID1 array09:43
dell500so i don't have this raid goin' anymore cause i have a lot of stuff to backup, but nowhere to put it09:43
netkid91Uhm...09:44
dell500but isn't that all that raid1 is? mirroring?09:44
netkid91Yup09:44
netkid91Since you have 3 120's you *could* set up a RAID5 array09:45
dell500cause i have 2 120 sata's right now, and i'd rather have the main os i have run faster to backup storage... ie getting satas for the whole storage process09:45
urosoutolumo thanks - changed so many settings i forgot where09:45
dell500but don't the drives have to be identical09:45
dell500ie: all have to be sata or ide or something09:45
netkid91No, just ~the same size09:45
dell500oh.09:45
dell500i didn't know that09:45
netkid91Well, yeah09:46
dell500lol09:46
netkid91For hardware RAID most of the time they do09:46
netkid91Might want to check the manual for your controller09:46
dell500ya i'm using the software raid array made way back when i got these drives, and software raid doesn't work in windows (or cross platforms for that matter)09:46
netkid91You might want to move over to hardware RAID then09:47
dell500otherwise i would backup most of the stuff on DVD's and put the rest under windows or something09:47
dell500ya, i plan on it09:47
dell500more diverse i guess09:47
q00pnetkid91: raid0 = fast, not bad ;-)09:47
dell500ya, raid0 isn't that bad, it's just not good to have if you haven't backed stuff up for a while09:48
OutoLumouros, I take it that helped:-)09:48
q00pdell500: right ;-). raid0 is great for stuff that is reconstructable too (like data logs)09:48
netkid91q00p: radi0=BAD, if one disk goes, they all do!09:49
netkid91If I REALLY need to combine multiple disks I'd use RAID5, at least I have parity data to rebuild my files, with RAID0 once one dies everything is gone09:49
dell500very true09:49
q00pnetkid91: yes, of course that's true. actually, raid10 is better than raid5 in terms of performance but worse in terms of storage efficiency. but raid0 is great for transient data09:50
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dell500netkid, what does raid5 do?09:50
_kerohow do i make my font smoth?09:50
dell500joins then mirrors?09:50
netkid91Or temp stuff09:50
netkid91But it's still not something to put important data on09:50
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Kero_1116ls09:50
netkid91No09:50
Kero_1116ops09:50
q00pnetkid91: and there's a lot of that. say you're mastering a DVD. you need a lot of fast storage but not for long. RAID-0 is perfect. same for session data on web applications. or web server logs. stuff like that.09:50
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q00pnetkid91: right exactly. unless you have backups and can spare the time to restore from backups.09:51
dell500well what do you guys recommend for me backing up my 200gb collection of music?09:51
h3sp4wnraid 5 gives you 2/3 of your space and you can lose any one disk (asuming you are using 3 which is the minimum)09:51
dell500and partly movies09:51
netkid91Raid 5 is similar to RAID0, it spreads data across multiple disks(3 or more), but on each disk it stores parity info, if one disk goes bad you can rebuild it with the parity on the others.09:51
q00pnetkid91: it's also nice for a core OS build. very fast, and you can restore by reinstalling. just make sure you stick /etc/, /var, /home/, etc on a different filesystem ;-)09:51
Kero_1116How do I make my font smooth in kde?09:52
q00pbut RAID-5 is much slower than RAID-0, especially for writes.09:52
dell500q00p, is that cause it needs to mirror and duplicate the data?09:52
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netkid91It doesn't mirror data dell09:52
q00pno, dell500, RAID-5 doesn't mirror09:52
q00phere09:52
q00phold up09:52
dell500what does it do09:52
h3sp4wnq00p: never noticed the difference with compaq hardware raid09:53
dell500i had a tut for raid a while back09:53
dell500but i lost it09:53
q00phttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redundant_array_of_independent_disks09:53
dell500ya, that's it09:53
q00peasier to post a link ;-)09:53
netkid91Kero_1116: What do you mean?09:53
dell500so q00p and netkid91 what do you recommend for a backup?09:54
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q00pdell500: ;-) depends on what you're backing up09:54
dell500i've got a plextor dvd rw, but haven't really used it to burn dvds.... i've got like 40discs i can use09:54
q00pdell500: just desktop stuff?09:54
dell500q00p, music in form of FLAC, SHN, and mp3 and movies09:55
netkid91dell500: How much you wanna back up?09:55
dell500kinda ya, but mostly music and stuff09:55
q00pdell500: i love optical if your stuff will fit. ;-) lasts longer than tape, is more easily read in lots of readers09:55
Kero_1116netkid91: like the font in kde is not smooth09:55
Kero_1116it isn't good looking09:55
q00pdell500: your dvd burner is perfect for that then ;-)09:55
netkid91Kero_1116: What video card do you have?09:55
dell500All of it so i can put ubuntu on a sata drive09:55
Kero_1116i am using my laptop09:55
Kero_1116it is an intel09:55
Kero_1116810i i think09:55
q00pdell500: or you could just buy an external usb drive, copy everything to it, and then store it at some offsite location. then just burn new files to DVD from time to time09:56
netkid91Kero_1116: Hmm....might be the drivers...09:56
dell500q00p, but won't burning like 40+ discs overload the dvd burner... and how can i make it take up all the sapce on the discs... i would need a backup utility or something09:56
Kero_1116i think it has to do with changing resolution of font09:56
netkid91Kero_1116: What version of Ubuntu are you on?09:56
Kero_1116kubuntu 5.1009:56
dell500q00p, that's what i was thinking of doing, be much more hassle free and less work on my already working parts :)09:56
netkid91OK, let me think...09:56
q00pdell500: no, you won't overload the DVD burner, just keep it relatively cool (room temperature)09:56
Kero_1116how do i edit a txt file using gui interface in kde?09:57
q00pdell500: use a nice backup program. or just start dragging and dropping into k3b ;-)09:57
robotgeekuse kate Kero_111609:57
netkid91Also Kero, what resolution are you on, and what DPI are the fonts?09:57
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dell500lol q00p09:57
Kero_1116sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf09:58
q00pKero_1116: why not open /var/log/xorg.log and read through it? sounds like your resolution is too low for your laptop screen. is your laptop a wide screen or anything weird?09:58
Kero_1116forgot the command for gui, instead of sudo09:58
dell500anyone ever heard of the company MicroNet?09:58
netkid91kdesu09:58
robotgeekKero_1116: kdesu kate /path/t/file.txt09:58
Kero_1116thanks09:58
netkid91np09:58
MachineScrew33333333333333333333333w09:59
netkid91Dang...this dist-upgrade is taking a while...09:59
MachineScrewdamn kat likes to type09:59
dell500lol09:59
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netkid91I got 3 cats....Nothing new to me machine10:01
netkid91I wonder if the ATI drives will work in dapper.....10:03
netkid91*drivers...10:03
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calvarezen donde me bajo el automatix10:05
MachineScrewnetkid91: one day10:05
ninHercalvarez:  http://beerorkid.com/automatix10:06
MachineScrew!automatix10:06
ubotuwell, automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.10:06
Tm_T!easyubuntu10:06
ubotueasyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu10:06
Tm_Tthis thing is clear: big NO! to automatix, easyubuntu is somewhat replacing it much safer way10:07
calvarezthank10:07
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calvarezcomo configuro openoffice2 en espaol en kubuntu10:08
Tm_T!es10:08
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.10:08
Tm_Tor use english10:08
MachineScrewya what Tm_T said10:09
dell500what kind of HDs should I steer clear for?10:10
MachineScrewnone realy10:10
calvarezthank10:10
MachineScrewthey all work pretty well in linux10:10
dell500well i've had problems with WD i think... i'm not sure10:11
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dell500that's why i ask... more of a personal question than general one10:11
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MachineScrewWD is good so is Maxtor but my dads IBM drives are failing10:12
MachineScrewalso there are drives with 5yr warrenty10:12
MachineScrewor 3 yr warenty10:12
dell500well i could get a maxtor internal and just get the enclosure for less than $200 i think10:12
dell500i love seagate, ime10:12
MachineScrewso get those stear clear of 1 year warrenty10:12
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calvarezopenoffice2 in spanish10:13
calvarezhow to10:13
MachineScrewcalvarez: run sudo apt-get install language-support-es openoffice.org-l10n-es openoffice.org-help-es myspell-es10:15
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dell500what's the program that tells you what's running and how much cpu/memory it's using?10:16
MachineScrewdell500: top10:16
Bobrownikis there an app in linux to test the cpu stability , like prime95 in windows or something like that ?10:16
MachineScrewBobrownik: make the kernel with make -j310:17
MachineScrewbut thats kinda over kill10:17
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MachineScrewBobrownik: yes sudo apt-get cpuburn or stress10:18
Bobrownikim a newb , i have no clue about anything to do with kernel10:18
MachineScrewwell the last command will get you the progam to do it without involving the kernel besides i was jk10:19
Bobrownikok , ill try the cpu burn , thank you10:19
MachineScrewBobrownik: thats all one word now10:19
Bobrownikk10:19
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jarlathDoes anyone that has tried Kubuntu Dapper think that its worth the upgrade? I have a pretty solid Breezy system, but wireless networking doesnt roam and hibernate doesnt work.10:31
robotgeekjarlath: well, don't upgrade right away then10:31
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Ferdinand98324how can I do a screenshoot without using ksnapshot in kubuntu breezy?10:37
Ferdinand98324there's any hotkey?10:37
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Tonio_Ferdinand98324: print screen :)10:37
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Tonio_Ferdinand98324: if you're using dapper only10:37
Ferdinand98324well, I'm using breezy :(10:38
Ferdinand98324and it doesn't work10:38
DiLyou can define your hotkeys and use ksnapshot10:38
Ferdinand98324well, I was trying to not use it, but no prob...10:39
Ferdinand98324how can I play wma or wav files under kaffeine?10:39
Ferdinand98324I search for the codecs10:40
MachineScrewprint screen key is maped to it10:40
Tonio_MachineScrew: with dapper only10:40
MachineScrew!wma10:40
Ferdinand98324but I get no results10:40
ubotuhmm... restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats10:40
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MachineScrewFerdinand98324: you need w32codecs10:41
joey^^How do you select a mixer device in kbuntu? I have onboard and sound card. I tried to use kmix but i don't think it actually selects the mixer device for the entire system. In gnome i just used the volume control app to select the mixer device and it worked.10:41
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MachineScrewin control panel there is Sound and Multimedia10:42
joey^^i looked in there, but that didn't work either10:42
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MachineScrewthere is a hardware tab10:42
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MachineScrewthere you can select what card you want10:43
ExcaliberHello10:43
joey^^in ubuntu all i did was go into the volume control and did file->select device and changed to my audigy10:43
MachineScrewya I know but kde is a little differnet10:44
joey^^MachineScrew: i tried every setting in there, none work10:44
MachineScrewjoey^^: why do you have 2 sound cards anyway10:44
joey^^MachineScrew: well, i have two mixer devices, onboard ac'97 intell chipset and a audigy 2 zs card i installed manually10:45
ExcaliberHello everyone.10:45
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MachineScrewthats a laptop card ?10:45
joey^^MachineScrew: they both work fine in ubuntu and gentoo, but i can't seem to get any output from kbuntu :(10:46
MachineScrewhmm10:46
joey^^na, it's a standard pci10:46
MachineScrewon a desktop so it should be possible to turn off the intel card in the BIOS10:46
MachineScrewunless you need it10:47
joey^^well, normally all you do is a select a mixer device for the system10:47
MachineScrewif you need it well damn I never had to use 2 cards10:47
joey^^and it uses that10:47
joey^^i only have one card, the intel ac'97 is on the motherboard10:47
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MachineScrewum10:47
jarlathrobotgeek: thanks.10:48
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ExcaliberDoes anyone need any help?10:48
MachineScrewwell the other thing is open alsa mixer10:48
Excaliber?10:48
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MachineScrewor to install another program to control the two mixers10:48
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MachineScrewbut because I don't my self have 2 cards installed I can't helpp10:49
Excaliber= \10:49
MachineScrewhave you tried this in other KDE systems10:49
joey^^i openned alsamixer, but the problem is that kde tries to take over the sound system just like gnome10:49
MachineScrewor just GNOME10:49
ExcaliberNice try MachineScrew10:49
MachineScrewdamn10:49
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ExcaliberAre you trying to play something?10:50
MachineScrewbecause #kde might have an answer10:50
Excaliberjoey^^, whats the problem?10:50
MachineScrewExcaliber: he has 2 sound cards one onboard the other pci10:50
ExcaliberHmm.10:50
jarlathI've just noticed that kmplayer isn't in the repos. Thats pretty surprising for a kde based distro.10:50
ExcaliberAnd what doesn he want to do?10:50
Excaliberdoes*10:50
MachineScrewExcaliber: and he wants to control both cards10:50
ExcaliberWhy would he do that?10:51
ExcaliberJust use one.10:51
Excaliber= \10:51
MachineScrewExcaliber: with Kmix10:51
joey^^Excaliber: i can't get any output from my sound card under kbuntu10:51
MachineScrewthat what I asked10:51
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ExcaliberHmm.10:51
ExcaliberDid you try testing your sound?10:51
joey^^well it all works fine using ubuntu and gentoo10:52
joey^^only kbuntu wont output any sound10:52
ExcaliberTest the sound on kubuntu10:52
MachineScrewExcaliber: in other words gnome10:52
Excalibersystem>settings>sound system or something like that10:52
joey^^i don't get any sound, thats my point10:52
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joey^^yep, i tried all that10:52
joey^^nothing10:52
ExcaliberHmm.10:52
joey^^no sound, i think it's trying to use my onboard sound10:53
joey^^thats why10:53
MachineScrewright10:53
joey^^i tried using kmix to select my audigy mixer device10:53
MachineScrewdid you try pluging in speakers to the onboard card10:53
joey^^but i don't think that actually selects the device for the sysem10:53
joey^^system*10:53
joey^^ye, i could try that10:53
MachineScrewya but that would tell you one is working10:54
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joey^^ye, i'm gonna have to disc to unravel all these wires10:54
joey^^brb10:55
ExcaliberWhy don't you reinstall kde10:58
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joey^^yep, as i thought works10:59
joey^^it's trying to use my onboard mixer10:59
ExcaliberHmm.10:59
ExcaliberNice job.10:59
joey^^kmix wont select my audigy device10:59
joey^^in gnome i just did volume control file-.select device and changed to my audigy and it worked fine11:01
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ExcaliberHmm.11:01
joey^^i can't see a way to do the same thing in kbuntu though11:01
Excaliberwell kde is way different from gnome11:01
joey^^kmixer doesn't allow you to change mixer device and the multimedia system settings doesn't have a mixer device selection11:02
joey^^so i'm stumped :(11:02
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Excaliberhmm.11:02
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ExcaliberHello.11:08
ExcaliberAnyone else need help?11:08
joey^^yes... :/11:08
joey^^ok, looks like im going back to ubuntu11:09
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m_tadeugood night everyone...after installing kubuntu5.1 amd64 my pcmcia modem don't seem to work11:12
m_tadeudoes anyone know if there is a problem with the pcmcia or serial driver in kernel 2.6.12?11:14
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harleypigI just upgraded to Dapper on a dual core amd64 athlon system.11:25
harleypigI can't seem to get x working again.11:26
harleypigbasically, startx starts then hangs.  I have an nvidia card11:26
harleypigusing "nv" driver appears to be working corectly ...11:28
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Ferdinand98324I've installed w32codecs but I can't play WMV files, I tried installing xine plugin to kaffeine11:33
Ferdinand98324but kaffeine is still saying "can't finde the decoder"11:33
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Ferdinand98324when kaffeine starts it says that w32 has been installed successfully, and all other libraries11:34
Ferdinand98324what can I do for playing .WMV files under kaffeine?11:34
Ferdinand98324the same happens with .WAV files11:34
Kev1nFerdinand98324 i will be watching for an answer as I have exactly the same problem11:35
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paulvolkHey Guys11:36
Kev1n:)11:36
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Ferdinand98324Kevin, how can I send that red private message? :s11:37
paulvolkI have a question, When I installed my system it never came kynaptic instead a program called adept. Should I install kynaptic and use it or just stick with adept?11:37
Kev1nadpt is very good11:37
Kev1nadept is excellent11:37
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paulvolkso just stick with it?11:38
Kev1nferninado98234: i dont understand your question11:38
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Kev1npaulvolk: yes mate11:38
Ferdinand98324someone have any idea about working with WMV files under kaffine?...I got correctly installed w32codecs11:39
paulvolkok thanks11:39
Sergi0Ferdinand98324: you could try vlc, it runs alot, its somewhere in the repro's11:40
Ferdinand98324sergio, do u mean the VLC player11:42
Ferdinand98324?11:43
Ferdinand98324I solved my KDE 3.5.2 problem yesterday XD11:43
Ferdinand98324:D11:43
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mvvwhat's the easy way of converting a second (NTFS) harddisk to linux a filesystem?11:44
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Sergi0mvv: u know cfdisk? in terminal, use that, it does wonders :)11:47
Sergi0mvv: oh converting... hmm11:47
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Sergi0mvv: just get the data out of there what u need, then repartition it, set it back after that? thats the easy way11:47
mvvSergi0: no the data may delete (no i only know fdisk)11:47
Sergi0mvv: may what? its okay to delete or not?11:48
mvvyes i have put the data on another computer already :)11:48
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mvvcan i just do mkfs.ext3?11:49
harleypigwell, on the plus side, it seems I can now use my wireless card with smp enabled11:49
harleypigbut I can't seem to get nvidia to work under smp.11:49
harleypig(this is under Dapper)11:49
Sergi0mvv: you can use that after you partition the disk yes11:49
harleypiganyone know of anything I can do?11:49
mvvokey, thanks Sergi0, i think i know what todo and with some manpage reading i'll get there probably... (and if not i'll scream here again, lol )11:51
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Sergi0mvv: yeah, its not that hard, gl!11:52
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Ferdinand98324I can't play mp311:56
Ferdinand98324under xmms either :(11:56
Sergi0Ferdinand98324: check the forums or wiki, there should be alot of info about it11:57
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Sergi0hi mvv :)11:58
mvvhi (my modem in unstable ;( )11:59
Ferdinand98324hi wmv :(12:02
mvvwhen i do cfdisk /dev/sdb i get: FATAL ERROR: Cannot open disk drive Press any key to exit cfdisk12:03
mvvoh, shoot me12:04
mvvworks, sry12:04

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